HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Video Vendors that DO support OS/2?
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:09:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.#pzjcpl.rcain
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Wow.  These Trident folks, at least Stone, are really out front here. There
was a call on my phone mail, completely unsolicited, from him last night.
He was asking to get feedback on the new OS/2 drivers!  I hardly have the
heart to tell him that in spite of being in the DAP, Expedite, owner of
1.3EE and crazy I can't seem to get GA to test them on.  If you're reading
this Stone, thanks for the call and I'm sorry we couldn't connect today.

I would like to know what the secret is to get into the Trident BBS.  It
was busy last night nearly incessantly until after 2:00 a.m. and all day.
I did get in twice at 2400 but had a dead connection.  Anybody got the
secret?  I'd like to get them up to .binaries so *someone* can enjoy them.

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 09:27:54 BST
From: ian@vnet.ibm.com (Ian Stirling)
Subject: OS/2 Support Line
Reply-To: ian@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM UK Laboratories Ltd, Hursley, England
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 2.0
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

This one really is officially from IBM

Cheers,
Ian Stirling                      Internet: ian@vnet.ibm.com
CICS/ESA Systems Facilities         Bitnet: ian at vnet
IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley, England IBMIPnet: ian@stirling.hursley.ibm.com

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM

************************* Note Follows ******************************

Hi, I am Bob Albano, Manager of OS/2 Software Service and Support. I
would like to welcome all new users to OS/2 2.0. I apologize for the
confusion with the 800 number on the first day of general availability.

OS/2 Support Line is a new enhancement to OS/2 Service that is being
offered to anyone who has purchased OS/2 2.0. It provides toll-free
phone support for any OS/2 2.0 system installation, configuration, or
usage question. It also provides access to productivity mini-
applications. The fee for this new service is $129 per yer per user.

To help customer's decide if they wish to purchase Support Line, we
are offering a free, no-obligation 60-day trial period. Just call
1-800-237-5511, tell the person who answers you are calling for OS/2
Support Line and a Support Line Representative will contact you.

If you call 1-800-237-5511 and cannot reach the OS/2 Support Line
Authorization Office, please call me at T/L 793-8100 (512-823-8100),
and I will personally ensure that you receive service.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller)
Subject: Re: News from L.A. OS/2 Celebration and COMDEX announcement
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 08:01:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.221849.4629@hemlock.cray.com> bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.225834.5596@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller) writes:
>>I just got back from the OS/2 rollout at the Westin Bonaventure in downtown
>>L.A.
>>
>>Surprises:
>>
>>Windows 3.1 compatibility is done!!  I didn't catch whether the CSDs were
>>done, or iff all currently-printing copies of OS/2 will have the Windows
>>3.1 version of WinOS2, but Reiswig demonstrated running multimedia apps
>>under a 3.1 version of WinOS2.
>
>Actuall what we saw was the current 24 hour old driver.  Lee specifically
>said (I was at COMDEX) that the GA codes does not contain this support.
>It will, though, be coming out (say in the next couple of months - CSD).

From my experience with 1.x, I would assume that IBM will up the version
number (to 2.00.1) and print all future versions.  If you apply the CSD,
you essentially have the same level.  Am I wrong?

Genuine question.  Never applied the CSDs.  My 1.30.0 works fine.

-Dave
-- 
David Giller, Box 134 | Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light
Occidental College    | bulb?  A: Three.  One to replace the bulb, and two to
1600 Campus Road      | fend off all the Californians trying to share the
Los Angeles, CA 90041 | experience. ---------------------------rafetmad@oxy.edu
From: dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Subject: OS/2 and Borland C++ 3.0
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:45:41 GMT
Distribution: na


I found a good deal on Borland C++ and was wondering about using it
with OS/2.  If I compile programs with BC, will I be stuck with the
DOS 64K segments and 640K barrier?

Douglas Krause                      One yuppie can ruin your whole day.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
University of California, Irvine    Internet: dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu
Welcome to Irvine:  Yuppieland USA  BITNET: DJKrause@uci.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: IBM, are you listening? (Was: Windoze 3.1 is here.)
Keywords: Yesterday(4 April) I saw Windoze 3.1 for sale here.
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 08:44:44 GMT

In article <wwpjqga.lucky@netcom.com> lucky@netcom.com (Lucky Lee) writes:
>gwebster@student.UVic.CA (Gord Webster) writes:
>>You've dropped the ball. Are you so afraid of Micro$loth that you are
>>willing to let OS/2 die a lingering and pitiful death?
>
>I agree with every word in that post.  I have never seen a more pathetic
>advertising campaign for a product that has a potential of being an
>absolute winner.  I have ordered mine from IBM, but from what I see so
>far, I am not sure OS/2 is going anywhere.  What in the world is going
>on?  Is someone asleep?  I can't believe it.  Who the hell is in
>charge of marketing for this product?  Can we please have his name?
>Can we please have his name on the firing notice?  Please, WAKE UP!!!
>

C'mon guys. It's no big deal. Why should we care about the internal
function of IBM itself? Does IBM give us its stock if we care enough?
The late arriving OS/2 2.0 is no big deal. Just wait. Anyway, I'm
locked by buying 1.3. So all I have is "waiting." If OS/2 2.0  does
not make a success, how many dollars do you lose? Why should we 
take more care of IBM than the IBMers? If OS/2 2.0 loses, I still
have a good DOS/Windows multitasker (since nobody will write appl.
for OS/2 2.0 if so). Gradually, I will move to UNIX by trading in
my 386 for a 486-33. Originally, I was so heartily waiting for my
copy of OS/2 2.0, but I got very frustrated by contacting Boston
Copley place and the Providence IBM branch. IBM is IBM, no matter
how many 1-800-3-IBMOS2 lines are settled; no matter how many
blue-jeans programmers work hard; it is those people in suit 
controlling the enterprise, isn't it? So I did not mail out my
upgrade form immediately after I copied the electronic version
(my requested upgrade form from the 800--***   has not arrived
yet.)  I just become indifferent.

I can't help but ask: why do you guys want OS/2 2.0 to outsell
Windows 3.1? I've never seen a UNIX guy getting frustrated because
UNIX does not dominate the PC market.  They just pride themselves.





Wen-Chun Ni
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 Release: First Impressions
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.181653.28887@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>To pin down the floppy problems a bit, I tried FORMATting a 720K
>diskette (with the /F:720 parameter) in a 1.44 MB drive (drive A:)
>from a DOS session.  On rare occasions it has problems.  Same for
>using the "Boot Drive A" icon and a 720K DOS 3.3 system disk.  The
>real DOS session came up, but upon taking a directory I got a disk
>error.  (This could have been caused by a bad disk, incidently.  I
>can't pin this problem down.)  It is difficult to figure out what's
>going on or to replicate these problems, so I can't blame OS/2 2.0
>just yet.

I still haven't added the DISKCACHE line back in.  However, the
following experiment turned up some interesting results.

First, I have a 1.44 MB 3.5 inch Drive A and 1.2 MB 5.25 inch Drive B.
Apparently OS/2 2.0 does not have automatic media sensing (for the
1.44 MB A: drive) -- I have to explicitly specify 720K -- but, then
again, I'm not sure DOS does either.  (Something to investigate.)

I started an OS/2 session running FORMAT A: /F:720 and a DOS session
running FORMAT B: (it correctly recognized the high density drive and
formatted to 1.2 MB) at the same time.

Both formats proceeded (albeit slowly, as you might imagine -- this is
quite a feat).  While the formats were going on I switched to reading
news here.  When I switched back to the DOS session, after the format
had completed, the cursor had moved several lines down and several
columns to the right, but no text was displayed.  Still, it was
waiting for me to enter a volume label (or press ENTER for none), yet
the text instructing me to do that was missing.  I pressed ENTER, and
all subsequent text displayed properly.  Quite odd.

In short, for the time being I recommend doing all your FORMATs from
OS/2 sessions.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nagel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Kurt Nagel)
Subject: GA and ATM
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:09:59 GMT

Hey all,

	Since ATM is now an integral part of GA can it be disabled?  I have
a few Windows Apps (Super Project, Turbo Tax, etc) that are incompatible
with ATM (For some unknown reason).  Also a few apps that benifit greatly
from ATM (AmiPro).  Will tehe incompatible programs work under GA or will
I need to upgrade to OS/2 specific versions (If they will exists :>)

Kurt
nagel@fido.colorado.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CAD under GA...?
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:04:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr14.020442.14104
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Apr13.223412.5791@midway.uchicago.edu>, by sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples):
>>What tablets are supported/announced?
> 
> No idea on this one.  Anyone?

No tablets are supported at the moment.  However, Calcomp tablets emulate
Mouse Systems mice and they work fine (I happen to be using one right now).
The tablet driver that comes with AutoCAD for OS/2 also works under OS/2 2.0,
but the only catch is that you have to have AutoCAD for OS/2.
> 
>>Will Autocad work under OS/2 or do I have to dual-boot to dos?

Wait for Release 12 to come out, or get AutoCAD for OS/2 (if you can
live with Release 10).
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rothman@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: HPFS and Memory
Reply-To: rothman@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:04:26 GMT

My copy of GA is in the mail and i'm still a bit confused about some things.

I have a 386sx-25 with 4megs of RAM, 125mb ide hard drive, ami bios, and et4000 super vga.

Right now i have one big dos 5 partition, but what i was going to do is split it in half, i.e. ~60 megs for FAT and ~60 megs for HPFS.  Now i hear that HPFS is painful on a 4 meg system.  Why?

I dont plan to have more than 2 or 3 apps going at once, and probably small-ish ones at that.  (of course that is subject to change).

ANYWAY, why shouldn't i install HPFS?

Ken Rothman
krothman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
rothman@binah.cc.brandeis.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: becap@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian CAPSON)
Subject: Re: I give up!
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:13:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.005114.2793@cc.gatech.edu> duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick  
Duggan) writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.183151.26816@hemlock.cray.com> bgm@cray.com (Bert  
Moshier) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr8.071538.21968@news.Hawaii.Edu>  
tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes:
> >>Bert Moshier writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Just wondering .... Has anyone tried using the address and seeing if
> >>>"microsoft.com" bounces it.  Maybe it is a valid address?
> >>
> >>The 'finger' command responds with "In real life:  ???", so microsoft.com
> >>doesn't know who user bgates is.  Seems like a well done hoax.
> >
> >I did not know Microsoft was so open.
> >
> >Anyway I tried:
> >
> >finger bill@microsoft.com
> >finger gates@microsoft.com
> >finger william@microsoft.com
> >finger III@microsoft.com
> 
> Here's what happens when you try finger billga@microsoft.com
> 
> [microsoft.com] 
> Login name: billga    			In real life: Bill Gallagher
> Directory: /usr/b/billga            	Shell: /bin/csh
> Never logged in.
> Project: Net Security
> Plan:
> Pretend I'm someone else and get lots of misaddressed mail.
> 
> Note the last line...to whom could he be referring :-)?
> 
> -rick

Bill's login is BillG, but I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't access him   
from the internet. You have to have an account on the Microsoft gateway to  
access the internet, and Bill probably didn't get one to avoid getting alot of  
mail from bozos on the internet. You'll find this is true if you try to finger  
him @microsoft.com.
From: pebly@VNET.IBM.COM (Bob Pebly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: swap disks for os/2
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:40:36 GMT
Reply-To: pebly@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Industrial Sector Division, Boca Raton, FL

In <1992Apr10.233701.530@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Stephen M Smith writes:
>Also, if someone could comment on the following division of my
>210 MB IDE drive under OS/2 2.0, I'd appreciate it.  I'm planning
>to divide up my drive as follows:
>
>  Boot      FAT (for       HPFS (OS/2         HPFS (for     HPFS (for
>Manager     DOS & apps)    system files)      swap file)     apps)
>
>   1           44              50                 15          100

As I pointed out in a later posting, my original posting was wrong.
The swapper rule of thumb is to place the swap file on the most
accessed partition of your least accessed physical drive.  In your
case, I would probably combine the OS/2 HPFS partition and the
swapper partition into one and place the swapper on it (which
would be the default location anyway).

Bob Pebly

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's view, not those of IBM.
From: ian@vnet.ibm.com (Ian Stirling)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:47:22 BST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 My experience/minor problems
Reply-To: ian@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM UK Laboratories Ltd, Hursley, England
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Apr10.101431.18818@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>

In <1992Apr10.101431.18818@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Benjamin Yu writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Can anyone tell me how to change OS/2 to use a free IRQ please?  Thanks!
>
>Benjamin Yu
>University of Toronto
>Department of Computer Science         byu@csri.toronto.edu
>Toronto, Ontario   Canada M5S 1A4      byu@csri.utoronto.ca
>(o)(416)978 - 1685 (h)(416)470 - 8206  {uunet,watmath}!csri.utoronto.edu!byu
>
<1992Apr10.041910.4330@watdragon.waterloo.edu>

I'm no expert on this but I don't think you can tell OS/2 to use a
different IRQ.  You have to tell your SoundBlaster card to use a
new IRQ.  I have never seen this card - does it have any dip switches
for configuration.

Cheers,
Ian Stirling                      Internet: ian@vnet.ibm.com
CICS/ESA Systems Facilities         Bitnet: ian at vnet
IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley, England IBMIPnet: ian@stirling.hursley.ibm.com

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
From: rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 2.0 Upgrades
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:14:32 GMT
Reply-To: rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee)
Organization: Boston University

In article <15APR199215162904@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
|> In article <84043@bu.edu>, rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee) writes...
|> >said that delivery would be "in about 2 weeks". One more
|> >way to get your machine in the OS/2 door.
|> 
|> This is a slight change from when I called on April 3rd (del. 2-4 weeks and 
|> title page received within 30 days of time of Order, otherwise the same).
|> 
|> On a related note, has anyone that ordered the upgrade from IBM received it 
|> yet?
|> 
|> Jim Dorcey 

Looks like some people in IBM are playing games to
get the customers hopes up. I called the IBM distribution
center in Wisconsin (number is on the upgrade form) and 
they said delivery would be in 4-6 weeks. I suppose it 
might have to do with the alleged 2+ million copy back order.
We've waited this long for something good, a couple more
weeks won't kill us

Rob
-- 

Robert Mee     Boston University Information Technology      (rem@bu-it.bu.edu)


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Subject: Re: CAD under GA...?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:49:04 GMT

hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) writes:


>There is a newer version of autoCAD 386 (R11c2) that includes
>a revised version of the PharLap DOS extender that is designed
>to work with EMS extended memory. 
              ^^^

Sorry, make that XMS extended memory. The newer version of the
Phar Lap DOS extender is V2.6.  The VCPI version is 2.2d.

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
From: chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Microsoft wins
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:00:45 GMT
Organization: SCS/Compute, Inc.

In <6APR199200454278@venus.tamu.edu> tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:


> Anyone hear about Microsoft signing -> 85 <- PC manufactures to bundle
>Windoze 3.1 with their machines?  Includes 8 of the ten top sellers too,
>(i.e. Dell, Gateway, Zeos, etc.).  This sounds like another one of those
>"I wish we would have thought of that" sayings from IBM.  I felt this
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>way when I owned my Amiga, kinda like you're doomed by fate to fail.. Come
>on IBM - GET WITH IT!!!!! 

Um, I think IBM did think of this. But the fact that IBM wants OS/2 packaged
with systems isn't really that big of a concern to OEMs. I believe IBM 
has moved a couple of OEMs over to it's camp and should be announcing them
soon... I hope!

Chris
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse and OS/2 2.0 GA
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:37:41 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <57250005@acf3.NYU.EDU> chenjs@acf3.NYU.EDU (Jiansheng Chen,1141 Meyer,8-7667,) writes:
>I installed the OS/2 2.0 GA on a noname 386SX machine with 8MB and
>the Logitech serial mouse.  But the mouse didn't work.  I tried the
>following options:
>	1) Logitech mouse; 
>	2) Serial pointing device;
>	3) In-port pointing device;
>but none of them worked.
>Thanks for any info.

I'm afraid we need a bit more information.  Turn your mouse over and
tell us what the model number is.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth drivers for OS/2?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:43:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.092639.19146@pilikia.pegasus.com> william@pilikia.pegasus.com (William Kwok) writes:
>
>I also have a Diamond Stealth board and I assumed Diamond would support
>OS/2.  If this is not true, and if S3 will not support it either, I
>have wasted my money on an expensive board since I only planned on using
>Windows during the interim before OS/2 2.0.  Perhaps Stealth and OS/2
>users should band together and call both Diamond and S3 to request that
>they support (develop drivers) for OS/2.  I'm going to give Diamond a
>call very soon.  Does anyone have the phone number to S3?
>

Don't bother to call Diamond.  I called their BBS (it's local) and they 
said that Diamond will not be writing drivers for the Diamond Stealth
or the SpeedStar.  They are awaiting generic OS/2 2.0 drivers from S3
and Tseng, respectively.  Once these drivers appear they will post them
on the BBS.  Unfortunately they say that neither Tseng nor S3 has given
them a definite date for these drivers :-(

--Tony
quan@cs.stanford.edu



Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller)
Subject: Re: Seamless Windoze question.
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:09:24 GMT

In article <17486.29e9674e@ecs.umass.edu> horan@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>I've read a few posts about graphics resolutions and seamless windows,
>so I'll sum up what I think so far, and could someone tell me if this is
>right.
>
>- Seamless windows is when I just run say... CorelDRAW! right from the 
>  PM and it appears on the desktop without having a windoze desktop manager
>  present.

Yes.

If you want, you can run the Windows Program Manager, and run your Windows
programs from there.

>- Having a TSENT4000 (DSS) card, I can run OS/2 with my old 1.3 768x1024x16
>  driver, or with the 640x480x256 standard driver that comes with OS2/2.

You can use the 1.3 driver, but there is no 640x480x256 driver with OS/2.
It is 16 colors.  There is no 256-color standard.

>- I can only run the Seamless windows with the 640x480x256 system setup.

You can run Seamless Windows with any driver that is fully 2.0 compatible.
Trident has a 800x600x16 driver that works with Seamless.  The 1.3
drivers won't do it.

>- If I want to use the 768x1024x16 setup, I will have to run a windows 
>  desktop manager (or it's equivalent of the PM, whatever it's called)
>  and then run applications from that.

I think you will have to run with a 768x1024x16 driver, in which case,
you will have to turn your monitor sideways, and that's the only way
OS/2 will come up.  I don't think any application can switch between
portrait and landscape mode.  Nor, unless you have a Radius, is this
too useful anyway.

>- The windoze desktop manager just mentioned will have to be run full screen,
>  but of course I can hotkey to dos/os/2 apps any time.

You mean you have a program for Windows that does this?  I suppose you could
use this one, yes.  But you still have to tilt your monitor, and that's
a bit more difficult than hot-heying :->.

>Is this all right?  If so, does it seem like Diamond or Orchid will come out
>with a driver that will allow 768x1024x256 with seamless windows.

Trident did it.  Who knows?

-Dave
-- 
David Giller, Box 134 | Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light
Occidental College    | bulb?  A: Three.  One to replace the bulb, and two to
1600 Campus Road      | fend off all the Californians trying to share the
Los Angeles, CA 90041 | experience. ---------------------------rafetmad@oxy.edu