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Subject: Re: The birth of the metaphor.
From: awil2@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Andrew James        Willmott       )
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:44:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <8386@news.duke.edu> shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat) writes:




>Two young men, miles from home, defending a target of 127 on an overcast 
>day in January, down in New Zealand.  Sitting at the pinnale of their craft, 
>unequaled in their mastery of the art of fast-bowling.  The ultimate 
>fast-bowler: one who understands it takes only ten deliveries to dismiss the 
>opposition.  And to think there was not just one of these but two!  What magic,
>what melody.  What unbearable inspiration in their example: not merely the 
>pursuit of perfection but its attainment.  Genius to the point of sin.
>Welcome the new metaphor: he bowled like Wasim & Waqar, meaning he
>bowled like the clap of thunder.  

Cough, cough! :) :)
 
What d'ya mean "down in NZ", anyway? It's you guys who're down from us!


There was no clap of thunder involved, more's the pity. New Zealand could have
done with some rain. Like, two days of it.

Andrew

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: fsqazi@rodan.acs.syr.edu ()
Subject: Re: NZ v Pak: Pakistan win by 33 runs
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:16:06 EST

In article <1993Jan5.015731.19700@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> awil2@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Andrew James        Willmott       ) writes:
>Patel has just been bowled by Wasim Akram to dismiss NZ for 93. Pakistan
>have pulled a victory out of the fire yet again! Why can't they pick on
>someone else, that's what I want to know. :)
>
>Wasim bowled well again, picking up a five wicket bag, but the person who
>really pulled things around for Pakistan was Waqar Younis, whose form has
>been fairly patchy until now. Apparently Javed was about to pull him off and
>replace him with Mushtaq earlier today, but Waqar wanted another over, and
>the rest is history. The bowling figures of the two strike bowlers were:
>
>22-4-5-45  for Wasim Akram
>13-4-5-22  for Waqar Younis
>
>Wasim Akram was man of the match, having 8 wickets in the match.

Waqar managed to take his 100th test wicket in the process. I believe it was
his 20th test. 

While we are on this subject, would some kind soul post the frequencies for
radio NZ. I missed an exiting match!

fsq
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Subject: Re: PK NZ D2
From: awil2@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Andrew James        Willmott       )
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:07:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1i8ablINN8ci@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:

>In article <1i88djINN8a2@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:
>>
>>Pakistan 165/8 !!

>NZ now coming in to bat.  They are going to chase 127 by my calculations.

>>
>>The good news is:
>>It's only the second day :-)

>OK. So its the third.

>>Waqar is still batting   :-)

>OK, not that either. But one way or another Miandad is going to get that extra
>day and a half of rest that he has been clammering for.

>>Can Newzealand pull a Huston Oiles here? :-)

>That's the Houston Oilers.  Radio NZ International has shifted to 
>Ian Castanidge's (?) come back from behind 21/18 victory over Gallop
>in what the commentators are describing as a miracle.  Maybe I'll 
>explain the Oilers to our Kiwi friends if they can explain what sport
>it (21/18) was, because I have no idea.

>Which is the only thing that seems to be going Pakistan's way
>at this stage.  This day.  This victory_defeat_jaws_snatch
>kind of thing.

>>
>>j n a

O.k. The 21/18 thingy refers to bowls, a stunningly dull game that involves
two people rolling a number of large balls along a green towards a little
white ball. When they've finished they walk down to where all the balls are,
hiff the little white ball back down to the other side of the green and
start all over again. You don't, in short, want to know.

Now can you explain the Oilers reference? (I do know they're an American
Football team.)
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From: haider@tao.rice.edu (Haider Abbas Rizvi)
Subject: Re: bowling speed of Waqar and Wasim
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:21:17 GMT

In article <1ik9quINNgbe@transfer.stratus.com>, nazir@sw.stratus.com (Meer Nazir) writes:
|> I think if you are talking about the same channel9 program which was recorded
|> in days of Kerry Pecker series, many Pakistani netters can recall watching
|> that program on Pakistan TV.
|> The results if I can recall were:
|> 1. Jeff Thompson (All six deliveries faster than others)
|> 2. Micheal Holding ( only one delivery faster than Imran in six deliveries)
|> 3. Imran Khan (Five deliveries as second highest and one delivery with
|>                lesser speed than Micheal Holding)
|> 
|> 9. Sarfraz Nawaz
|> 
|> Jeff Thompson was considered as fastest and Micheal Holding as second fastest
|> but on average speed of six deliveries IMRAN was second fastest after Thompson
|> 
|> Also intrestingly Sarfraz Nawaz was number 9 or 10 in speed but in accuracy
|> he was second or third. If some netter can really find those numbers from 
|> some book, it will be intersting to see them it was more than 12 years ago
|> when I saw this program. 
|> 

From what I can recall, Sarfraz was along with Jeff Thompson in no 1 spot
for accuracy. I think they both had 5 hits out of a certain number of balls
(6 maybe, I can't recall correctly).
  
I dont remember the details about speed figures but Thompson, Holding and
Imran were in that order.

--
Haider
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From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Subject: Re: Pak win by 33 runs - the swing demons do it again
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:41:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.214537.21806@walter.bellcore.com>,
shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi) writes:
> The spirit of this rule is to ensure sufficient action
> for the paying public

That's the rationale, perhaps I'm a bit cynical, but I suspect the
real reason for the rule is to squeeze in enough advertising breaks
to keep commercial TV happy - each over is an advertising break
after all...

This rule started in Aust (I believe), where commercial TV rules,
and where the Aust public have been told that demanding more overs
somehow benefits them (rather than demanding more entertaining cricket
or something else).  Its only recently, after much hype on TV, have I
actually heard anyone at a cricket match complaining about the number of
overs they get to see in a day.  Quite the contrary in fact, a large
fraction of the paying public leave before the day's play ends in any
case, they could easily stay longer and see a bit more, but for most
people enough is enough, and watching a game for 6 hours is, for much of
the public, just too much.

Doesn't anyone else think it decidely odd that in test cricket, where
time is (in modern times at least) a part of the game, there's a
requirement for a certain number of overs to be bowled, whereas in
limited overs cricket, where balls are what counts, there are time
limits?   That is, in limited overs games, if the 50 (or whatever)
overs aren't bowled, they take overs away from the "paying public".

I still can't see any justification for the way these rules work together
than for it to suit the needs to the TV stations, in both cases they
want more or less fixed playing times, for their schedules, and a more
or less guaranteed number of overs per hour, and the more the better,
for their advertising breaks.

> (also to limit the WI pace quartet but I will be nice today)

This may have had some influence on some of the other countries which
have supported the wider introduction of the rule, but I doubt it would
be very effective, the WI bowlers are easily able to keep up with 15
overs an hour average when they want to, they're very rarely slow, and
then usually by design (which the possibility of some fine isn't likely
to change a lot).  Other countries (incl Aust) have a much harder job
consistently keeping up the rate.

kre
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From: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Subject: Re: England v Pres XI
Reply-To: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munich
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:19:41 GMT

I picked up The Guardian on Saturday, since there were photos of Kambli
writhing on the ground in agony, and clutching his arm as he went off the
field.  "Lewis's fire ends Kambli's blaze of glory" announced the story.
Incredibly, the doctors feel it's not a fractured bone, but only severe
bruising, and his arm is to be in a light cast for 6 days.  Will he / Won't he
play in the 1st one day?

The writer was waxing lyrical about cricket returning to Lucknow, after
a match in the '87 World Cup, and riots in '52 following India's loss to
Pakistan (after which Lala Amarnath grabbed a piece of bamboo fencing,
and challenged the crowd who were stoning the team bus to come man-o-man
with him).  He wrote of Kambli being Tendulkar's inseparable buddy, and 
that he's most likely to join him in the Indian team soon, with no intention 
of being a lesser partner!

Kambli virtually opened, 'cause Lewis got Bhave for 1 on his first ball.  
Kambli, Fletcher and everyone around seemed to agree Lewis was bowling like 
the wind, and Kambli's knock must have got him fired up.  Kambli's innings had 
everyone thrilled.  He was spotted playing defensively to only two deliveries, 
going on the front-foot and driving at will.  A bit away from the body, but it
didn't seem to matter.  Siddhu too "emerged from strokeless beginnings" to 
launch 4 sixes off Embury.  [Q: What is he, a top class player of spin, doing 
as an opener?]  The bowling, Lewis and Gooch apart, was wayward, especially
Taylor's first 6 overs. 

But the article also heavily criticised the umpires (Venkat and Reporter) for
cutting off 34 overs of play due to "early morning dew" and later "bad light".
The writer thought the latter was ridiculous, 'cause in the evening, Embers
and Tuffy were bowling, and half an hour *after* play was stopped, the Board
XI came out for net practice!  

At stumps, the last recognised batsmen, Ajay Sharma (injured, but resuming his
innings) and Nayan Mongia (45*) were at the crease.  A long tail though.

Looks like Kambli is a shoo-in. Bhave hurt his chances badly, Ajay Sharma too.
Hirwani might make a go of it (wow, 2 leggies!).  Maninder and the pacers
(Ankola and Vaidya), most probably not.

Till Taylor's performance, I had the following as the English TEST match team:
1. Gooch
2. Atherton
3. Smith
4. Gatting
5. Hick
6. Stewart
7. Lewis
8. Embury
9. DeFreitas
10. Tufnell
11. Malcolm

12th man: Fairbrother  (others are Reeve, Taylor, Jarvis, Blakey)
Now, possibly, Taylor instead of Embers. And Smith may be unfit.

And India?

Cheers,
Sanjiva
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: WSC game tonight
From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:53:10 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c



I know the result of this game before hand:

	Pakistan after winning the toss will score 80 runs in 35 overs.
Openers will depart before score reaches 10. Then at 40 3-4 wickets will
fall. In the end Rahsid Latif with someone else will take score to 80
all out.

Australia being in good form will score the required runs in 22 overs
after loosing 2-3 wickets.


So please do not "bother" your nights in listening radio commentry for
any match in which Pakistan is involved.

Ghazanfar
(S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz)
From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Subject: Re: Waqar's Hundered Wkts...
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 10:36:53 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1993Jan8.042624.13705@news.uakron.edu> murali@iris.polymer.uakron.edu (Murali Cotah) writes:
>Keywords: 
>
>>>I think either Colin Croft or Ian Botham has that record. The number of Tests is
>11 or 13 or something.
>
>Sudhama
>>>
>
>U sure ? Thats a astonishing # of wickets per match. Could u confirm please.
>
>cotah

Of course, it's a ridiculous #. I'm sorry, I was'nt thinking when I posted the
last article. I seem to have a vague notion in my head that Croft had the 
fastest 100 wkts. I'm sure Spaceman will sort this out sooner or later.
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: One boucer/over (was Re: Pak win by 33)
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:03:35 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <EVAN.93Jan11101617@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Evan Harris) writes:
> 	<1993Jan5.214537.21806@walter.bellcore.com>
> 	<1993Jan8.142111.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
> 	<kre.726504078@mundamutti.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
> 	<1993Jan9.015016.11181@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
> Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU
> Reply-To: evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Evan Harris)
> Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
> Lines: 16
> In-Reply-To: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk's message of 9 Jan 93 01: 50:16 GMT
> 
> On 9 Jan 93 01:50:16 GMT, mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk said:
> 
> McBean> So proposed by England, and supported by the spineless and
> McBean> sniveling administrations of Australia, NZ, India and Sri
> McBean> Lanka, we got the notorious one bouncer rule.
> 
> Comments during this series indicate that Australia did not support
> the introduction of this rule.  Whether this is accurate or not is
> another matter.

The Australian administration *did* support this rule change.  What was true
was that people like the Chappells (quite rightly) dismissed it as a stupid and
senseless rule.  So while the people who actually play and commentate may not
support the rule, it was voted in with the connivance of the Australian board.

> 
> One suggestion I found amusing was that batsmen should be penalised
> (fined) if they do not score quickly enough.

Oh I agree :-)  After the fee-paying public did not shell out hard earned cash
to watch them play forward defensive strokes in the 90 overs/day which they now
face_:)

> 
> --
> Evan Harris                                     evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU
> Dept of Computer Science, The University of Melbourne, Australia

McBean
From: raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Bring Shoaib Back....
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:54:12 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London


With pakistan`s repeated spineless batting performances, it is now
quite obvious that atleast now shoaib will be included in the squad
in the next tour. Its too late to recall him for this tour though.


--

S.R.Raza.
raza@surya.engrg.uwo.ca
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Ind/Eng ODI on Saturday??
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:37:20 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

       It appears that there might still be a possibilty of the first ODI
between England and India this Saturday. England wants that it should be played
this Saturday either at Delhi or Jaipu. Indian board seems to prefer it to be
played just before either Calcutta (first) or Madras (second) tests. The
contract with BSkyB might clinch it in favour of this Saturday - they have a
contract to supply BSkyB six ODIs and they (BSkyB) will be happy if they do not
have to reschedule their programming.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za (Pieter Vermeulen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: England v Ind Board Pres XI D1
Date: 9 Jan 93 07:26:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ford.1ilgljINNlmh
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Engineering, University of Pretoria
NNTP-Posting-Host: ford.ee.up.ac.za

KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:


>         There were no more details given. I hope Mike is not going to 
>emulate Harsha Bogle while reporting on this tour. He is the only source for us
>unless Pieter with his machine goes to India to tour with the England team.

Now if there was some funding available...... :-)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: del@hawk.adied.oz.au (D Elson)
Subject: Re: Why was Dean Jones dropped from the AUstralian team??
Organization: Australian Defence Industries
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:20:00 GMT

rajagopa@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (Sundararaman Rajagopal) writes:

>Hi netters

>I was recently going through an issue of The Cricketer" in which there were 
>reviews of the recently concluded test series between Australia and Srilanka.
>Dean Jones apart from Greg Mathews was the main stay of the australian batting
>in most of the matches(including the test matches) and infact saved the Australian team in the second test by scoring a century.

>I am wondering why he has been dropped from the test team for the current seriesagainst the WestIndies. did he fail so badly in the domestic matches or did the
>Australian selectors have a recent coaching stint from their Indian counterpartsas to how destroy the career of good players ???

Poor performance in the domestic early season matches, combined with
some good performances from the likes of Hayden, Martyn, etc.

Del
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From: upul@ee.umr.edu (Upul Gunawardana)
Subject: Re: Sri Lanka vs India
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:55:28 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <16B50130CE.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za> 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
>In the history of Sri Lankan cricket, I wonder how many times they have
>beaten India in either the one day games or the test games. Can't be
>that many !
> 
>All you Lankans out there, please do not get emotional, Im just a curious
>soul here.
> 

Tests:   India 3, SL 1    

ODs:  About 2 years ago it was, India 17, SL 7.

-Upul

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From: mhiri01@mik.uky.edu (Manjunath Hiriyannaiah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Azhar stays on as captain
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:07:44 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Just now I came to know from one of my friend in India that Azhar has been
retained as Captain of India for the first two ODI's and for the first test
match.
          GOOD LUCK AZZA
 
Manjunath H
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From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Subject: Re: Expert Comment on Sandeep Patil
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:34:13 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1993Jan12.173454.1467@microsoft.com> a-makag@microsoft.com (Makarand Gadre) writes:
>Here is another famous one.
>
>Sandeep Patil scored a fantastic century against England when he
>whacked Bob Willis for 6 boundaries in one over.
>
>After the over ended, the commentator asked the experts commentator :
>
>"What do you think of that ?"
>
>And the answer was : "Well, It reminds me of me."

Geoff Boycott?? (:-))
>
>Can anyone remember who said that ?
>
>- Makarand Gadre


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From: kadaba@infonode.ingr.com (Ganesh Kadaba)
Subject: Need info on WSC series urgently!!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:43:33 GMT


Hello folks,

This is the second time I am asking for this info on the net. Could some
kind netter (maybe from AUstralia) please post the following info on the net?

* The schedule for the WSC finals. (Dates, say/night match etc.)

* The lastest standings.

We are trying to get the matches on satellite here and we need the above
info badly.

Thanks in advance,

Ganesh Kadaba
Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, Alabama , USA.
Email: kadaba@b11.ingr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: rgupta@ncb.gov.sg (Ram Gupta)
Subject: Re: Gooch Cocktail Party........
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:59:29 GMT

Hi,

I can recall another openning partner to GAVASKAR, Hemant Kanitkar I guess
he played either against WI or Sri Lanka.

--ram
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: How small rotation required for effective float serve?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:27:50 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <1ik96u$mla@agate.berkeley.edu>, sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield) writes:
> But a volleyball is roughly spherical, so the fluid path of
> a ball that isn't spinning is the same on top as below. So,
> what is the aerodynamic force on a nonspinning ball? If the
> ball is spinning, there should be small drag effects that
> slow the air in one direction and speed it up in the other.

The key word here is "rough."  The panels on the ball are NOT symmetrical
and the valleys between them are long.  Also, some folks have proposed
that the ball undergoes non-spherical oscillation from the serve which
has a more pronounced effect when the ball is not rotating.
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From: micah@ravl.rice.edu (Micah Samuel Rosen)
Subject: How to teach volleyball ...
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:10:51 GMT

A friend and I are starting to organize some recreational
play for all level players within the School of Architecture
at Rice. We expect to have to explain rules, basic strategy
and other general aspects of the game to people playing but
since volleyball is something we just picked by playing over
several years we don't have any models for step-by-step
instruction.

If anyone is aware of a good guide to teaching basic 
volleyball skills (or more likely a well written guide
in those skills from which we can abstract the teaching
end of it) please drop me an E-mail (micah@ravl.rice.edu).


Micah Rosen    ******      Univ. of Virginia B.S. Architecture 1990 "Go Hoos"
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