HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bzandrew@bbs1984.chi.il.us (Bill Zandrew)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Iguana:suggestions
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:44:21 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <Martin.5.0@jsblan.byu.edu>, Martin@jsblan.byu.edu (Martin Murillo)
writes:
>
>Hi, we have an iguana that was lost for four days and it 
>did not eat during those days; is there something I could
>do (besides feeding) to help my iguana?.  He changed skins
>and seems weak.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Martin Murillo
>Martin_Murillo@byu.edu
How do you know he didn't eat?  If he seems weak it's probably cuz he "cooled
off".  Putting him back in a heated area will help.  Take him outside in the
warm sun.  Try a variety of foods.  Mine are very picky.  Sometimes they love
one food and won't eat another.  
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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: iguanas: can they wander freely in your home?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:32:39 GMT

I was considering buying one of those larger iguanas.  Do you have to keep
these things in a tank all the time, or can you let them wander around your
house (like you would a cat)?

Thanks
keith


Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: mundy@chemvx.tamu.edu (Yes, that's a python in my pants.)
Subject: Re: Arrested person slithered away
Followup-To: rec.pets.herp
Summary: Say what?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Sex Studies Division, Texas A&M Univ.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:02:00 GMT

>[Stuff deleted...]
>>from San Antonio Light Metro section - Sunday, August 2, 1992
>>reprinted without permission
>>
>[stuff deleted...]
>>The box was taken to the Downtown Foot Patrol office, where officer
>>Steve Stanford took charge, opening the box to reveal a 4-pound boa
>>python.
> 
>I'm sure we'd all like to know what a boa python is.
sssssssssssssssssssex
sex
sex  Shooooot Fahr, dair Kiel. Ya'll sees, we got's dese slitherin' thangs
sex  an' we'uns don' kair whut they is, we's jus' shoots 'em.
sex
sssssssssssssssssssex
> 
>>"We could see it didn't have a viper head, so we took out of the 
>>box," he said.
>>
> 
>My friends, is this sound herpetological policy? :-)
>[stuff deleted...]
> 
>Them Texxins shar do talk funny, tell you what...
> 
>    Kyle Wohlmut       


sssssssssssssssssssex

Heeyy der, Jim Bob! We's gots us anudder a dem damn *Yankees* 'gain! Git
muh gun, boy. Git off yuh sistuh, boy! I tole you'ns tuh stick widda sheep
tell ya'lls is 12.







					---- The Cunning Linguist
From: waynel@fps.com (Wayne Lichte)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Info on uramastyx
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:23:24 GMT
Organization: Cray Research Superservers Inc., San Diego CA, USA

Hi all;

My girlfriend and I just made our 6 month anniversary [we met in
alt.personals-needless to say, I am now an avid news reader ;) ]
and we decided to get a uramastyx as our gift to ourselves.

We have named him Styx.  The reason for my posting is to see if 
anyone knows much about this beastie.  The store I purchased him
knew virtually nothing, and even our local 'herphead' admits to 
scant knowledge.

What I do know:

Needs LOTS of heat- prefers environment of ~110 degrees day/~70 night
Eats dried foods-lentils, beans, rice, split peas,etc., with an occasional
	piece of lettuce/endive/carrot.
Requires little water-should be provided water only one day/week.
Should have lots of room in cage.
Will grow to ~3 feet.

Is there anything else I should know about him?  Please let me know
anything you know about this species, and how you came to know about
this [there seems to be virtually no information about these, even in
the normal reptile, 'how-to' type info books].

Last remarks:  I am REALLY pleased with our new little friend.  He 
is tamed, and even though he is small so far [8 inches or so], he has
virtually no fear of us.  He really seems to like coming out and hangin
out with us, preferring to ride our shoulders, or climb to the top of
our head, and staying there for hours at a time while we watch TV, etc.
Despite the price [over $100], and the lack of useful information, I
would really reccomend this lizard as a pet.  

He also looks really neat-turtleish head, collared lizard/horned lizard
body, with a tail with rows upon rows of blunt spikes.

Thanks 

Wayne

email me at waynel@cray.com
From: pmb2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Peter Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: What was the name of that company that made the plexi tanks?
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:03:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Aug13.160309.20203
Reply-To: pmb2@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Hello, all--

I remember a bit back that a number of people were very happy with\
prefab plexi tanks made by a company whose name escapes me just now...

I am housing animals in a place where they won't let me use wood, so I 
can't just make one, and they would really rather not have me just use
aquaria.  So, I was thinking, rather than pay our shop 1000 for making an
enclosure (yep, I ain't kidding), I should try and get a look at one of 
the prefab units.  

So, if somebody could give me the name, and if possible the phone number, of
a supplier of these tanks, and the company name that makes them, that would
be great.  

Thanks much,

Peter Bell
pmb2@midway.uchicago.edu
PBELL@YALEMED.BITNET
PBELL@BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU

"Well, of course it would be her choice...who else's would it be?"  George 
"I'm an asshole, I'm president, I keep forgetting which laws I am trying to
 pass, but I am sure none of them apply to my family anyway" Bush, quoted and
 then paraphrased from today's NYTimes....
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From: darell@island.island.COM (Darell Dickey)
Subject: *** Baby Snakes for Sale ***
Followup-To: cu@island.com 
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:48:51 GMT

******************************
   ***** Baby Snakes *****
******************************

Baby Burmese Pythons and Boa Constrictors.
About 3 months old.
$100 each

Can ship throughout US.

Please do not reply to this email account;
reply to cu@island.com   Thanks.
 


-- 
Darell Dickey
(darell@island.com)
	I meant what I said, I probably just didn't say it right.
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From: bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy)
Subject: Re: Chameleon question
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 09:09:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <wayne.07lp@brunz.Santa-Cruz.CA.US> wayne@brunz.Santa-Cruz.CA.US (Wayne Feick) writes:
>I visited a friend of mine recently and he had a chameleon which he let
>roam free in his house to eat flies.  He used to have two of them, but one
>was very territorial and the meek one ended up dying.
>
>I looked chameleons up in an encylopedia and found that they come from
>Africa; the description it gave didn't seem to match what my friend had, so
>I'm assuming his was misnamed. 

<stuff deleted>

This is a very common mistake.  Many people misidentify anoles as chameleons.
Anoles are found wild in the New World, chameleons in the Old World.  I doubt
that any species of chameleon could survive for long in a North American
environment.  I would like to hear any comments on this.  I have admired
true chameleons for a long time.  I kept an egyptian chameleon for four
years, until it died.  Although they are very delicate, I would ocassionaly
handle Tut.  At a party once, flys were gathering around the food table.
I held Tut out and he cleared out every fly.  Some he even got in mid air.

Chameleons are very interesting animals.  They have opposable thumbs and
prehensile tails, which aid them in climbing.  They are pretty awkward
on the ground.  They have bulging eyes with very small openings.  The
eyes move around independantly, so they can watch two things at once,
or focus on one thing to get a better depth of field.  Their toungues 
are 1.5 times long as the rest of their bodies and are faster than
a fly.  Truly an amazing sight when slowed down through photography.

Tut was quite a hit at that party.

Anoles are much more common critters in these parts.  The have been
misidentified because of their ability to change colors.  They only
go from bright green to a grey brown, whereas chameleons can change
to any color, any pattern.  I swear, I saw a chameleon with a scotch 
plaid once in a pet store in LA.  I use to keep cuban anoles for a
while.  They are much bigger than common green anoles.  Cubans can
get to be three feet long, including tail.

I would like to hear more about chameleon experiences from others
out there.  I am no expert, but have read much about these "Lions of
the Trees."

-mark
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From: tmason@ccscola.Columbia.NCR.COM (Tim Mason)
Subject: Re: Name that snake, general questions on snake keeping
Summary: Snake probing error
Keywords: khaki green/brown, hisses when disturbed, keeping corn snakes
Organization: NCR Corp, CCSD, Columbia, SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 12:44:12 GMT

In article <srh3.713457839@Ra.MsState.Edu> srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu 
(Steven R. Hollis) writes:
>...There is a way to sex snakes
>but it takes a trained fellow (don' try this at home) to insert a 
>rod into the snakes vent...depending on how far it goes in will
>determine which sex it is (i.e. it doesn't go in far with the guys 
>cuz his penis gets in the way)  

Actually, a probe goes farther into the vent of the male.  The probe is
actually inserted into INTO on of the hemipenes.  On a female, the probe
goes into a gland.  Since the gland is shorter than the hemipene, the
probe goes in a shorter distance for a female.



-- 
---------------------------
Tim Mason
Tim.Mason@ccscola.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
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From: clhoerth@david.wheaton.edu (Cathe L Hoerth)
Subject: Aquarium, anyone?
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:48:49 GMT


About a year ago, my brother built me a lovely 38.8 gallon aquarium for
my garter snake, Bracelet.  Unfortunately, Bracelet is no longer with
us, which leaves me with a rather large aquarium I need to shed.  I also
have two hot rocks (one is a dome, the other is flat) and a very nice
ceramic water dish (beige outside, blue inside - I had it sunk into the
floor of the cage and it looked like a lake.  Sigh.).  The aquarium is
not necessarily watertight, though with a little more silicon you could
probably put some in the bottom - the problem is with the strength of
the sides rather than the problem of leakage - it's only a step above
regular glass.  The top is a nice wire and hinge affair - if you have a
pet that's not a climber it'd be perfect.  If your pet likes questing
you'd probably have to reinforce it - I have some ideas and I'd be happy
to help.
I'm in the Chicago area (Wheaton is the NW suburbs, about 45 min. out),
and I'm thinking in terms of very reasonable prices.  Make me an offer.
email has a tendency not to go through, so write me or call me.
(708)690-1061, Cathe Hoerth, CPO 1265, Wheaton College, Wheaton IL
60187.

				Hoping to hear from someone,
					Cathe
P.S. Don't be alarmed by the "Hello, Valhalla" answering machine message
- it's me, trust me.
From: pk@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (Stephen Kunc)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Prolapsed intestine .... again
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:28:11 -0400
Reply-To: pk@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (Stephen Kunc)
Distribution: world
Organization: AFI Communications - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

gg02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GABRIELLA GRAD) writes:

| 
| Anyhow, thanks for any help.  If I find out what the cause is (from a vet I a
| calling tomorrow), I will let you all know.
| 
| In the meantime, happy herping.
| 
| Gaby

 
I don't think it's likely that the diet is the problem. I've always 
found iguanas to be more nutritionally durable than most literature 
gives them credit for. Some birth deficiency would be my first 
suspicion -- although that may be corrected by a specialized diet.
 
Good luck.
 
(waitasec here... you aren't feeding it... copepods... are you?)
 
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From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Re: Growing Ball Python
Followup-To: rec.pets.herp
Summary: Size of prey | Cost of prey
Organization: The 2nd lowest pit in Hell
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:19:37 GMT

In article <119310011@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ruska@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dave
"I've never met Rula Lenska" Ruska) writes:
>In rec.pets.herp, donb@igor.tamri.com (Don "Is that a python in your
>pants" Baldwin) writes:
>
>> Well, last night (for the first time) I fed a rat to the little Ball Python
>> that I got a year ago.
>> 
[stuff deleted]
>...
>With any luck I'll be able to cross scent another gerbil onto rats.
>I really don't want to buy gerbils at $4 a swallow from here on out....
>

Huh!  Try $10 a swallow for rabbits, if you're -lucky- enough to find
even that!  There's a farm supply place in Redwood City that the owner
will occasionally slip me a rabbit for $10 or under, but the going
rate for bunnies is $19.99.  Sorry, Fafi, but at that price, you can
wait a few more days... *sigh*

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From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: advise wanted re. buying baby ball python
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:03:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>>	is newspaper the best cage lining (if changed daily, which i will)?

It works for me.  Can't beat the price, especially since my Black Pine craps
almost every day.

>>	i've also had good luck using vita-lites as a source of uv light. i'm
>>		assuming that this will be acceptable for snakes as well. am i
>>		right?

>Works fine for me.

Most references that I've seen say that snakes don't need UV.  Since many of
them are at least partially nocturnal, it makes sense to me.

>If your snake is living on pinkies, it may not get enough calcium; to be on
>the safe side, you might shoot the pinkies up with a calcium solution (maybe
>half a tablet, slurried in however much water).

I just dust them in powdered eggshells.  Again, you can't beat the price.

>Pinkies/fuzzies, eventually moving upward.

My ~22" corn is at the fuzzy stage now, and I've been having a hell of a time
finding them.  Pinkies and adults can be had by the score, but fuzzies have
been tough to find.

-- 

======================================================================8--<
From: daved@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.dougherty)
Subject: advise wanted re. buying baby ball python
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:41:23 GMT

hi y'all. i'm not new to herpetology (my wife and i raise collared lizards,
both green and bronze), but i am new to snakes (i.e., i've never owned one).
our local herp. only pet store just received a shipment of baby ball pythons,
and i want to buy one. i've read the care sheet for snakes that gets posted
every month, but i still have a few questions:

	is newspaper the best cage lining (if changed daily, which i will)?
	when can i expect my new baby to take its first meal (if it hasn't
		eaten yet? should i buy a baby snake that has not eaten?
		(the store owner told me that baby snakes may not eat for some
		time, possibly months! is this correct?)
	i've had really good luck using under-the-tank-heating-pads with my
		brood of collared lizards. will this method of providing heat
		work will with snakes?
	i've also had good luck using vita-lites as a source of uv light. i'm
		assuming that this will be acceptable for snakes as well. am i
		right?
	what about vitamin supplements? i give my collards healthy doses of
		calcium carbonate as a supplement to their diet of
		crickets. do snake require this as well?
	what should i offer my little one to eat? i imagine the choices are
		limited to either pinkies or small mice. what's the best
		way to immobilize the little beasties (mice) before
		offering them to my new baby? i'm not really squeamish, but
		bashing a mouse over the head is not my idea of a good
		time!
	i think i know what to look for when selecting a snake (i.e., look
		mites and ticks, scrapes, protruding (or visible) ribs,
		partial shedding, mouth rot, clear eyes, etc. is there
		anything else i should look for?

thanks for any and replies!

dave

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From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Subject: Selling a Retic?
Supersedes: <Bt4xu0.3r5@taligent.com>
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:12:09 GMT

I'm interested in selling my 3 year old reticulated python.  He's
definitely not tame (he was acquired at 1 year old, wild, and time has
not mellowed him much), and should be handled as a wild snake.  I've
never actually sold a herp before except back to the store that I
bought it at, and they're not interested in a wild critter.  Does
anyone have any advice, suggestions, or offers (:-) on how to go about
this?  Just put an ad in the paper?  How do I go about pricing a snake?

I would definitely, absolutely, positively NOT suggest that this animal
be acquired by anyone who is not familiar with large wild snakes.
--
-- Christophe

"Be calm.  Look cute."
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
From: debra@solbourne.com (Debra Frances)
Subject: Re: Have new turtle, need info
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:31:42 GMT

Try some veggies and some ground beef.  Just a little beef, so you don't cloud
up the water.....
                             DEBRA
From: larry@angel.UUCP (Larry Tenbush)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: habitat question
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:23:44 GMT
Organization: Angel's Retreat - San Antonio, Texas

From article <srh3.714074308@Ra.MsState.Edu>, by srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Steven R. Hollis):
> Hi, me again.  Got a question about my hognose.  I am looking to improve
> his environment by remodeling his aquarium...what should i put in for him to 
> burrow through?  Potting soil?  Leaves?  A mixture??   How would some small
> plants do in there as well??
> 
> 
> thanks in advance
> Steve
> 
> --
> ==============================================================================
> Steve Hollis--Your friendly neighborhood zoology major
> srh3@ra.msstate.edu
> ==============================================================================

I use cypres bark mulch and a bit of aspen (for coloring).  Works great on
my Mexican burrowing python.

Larry
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From: bzandrew@bbs1984.chi.il.us (Bill Zandrew)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: How long without food?
Date: 12 Aug 92 04:53:36 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

How is your baby Anolis doing?  How about an update?
From: bzandrew@bbs1984.chi.il.us (Bill Zandrew)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Five-lined skink question
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:51:24 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <92230.211508C73221DC@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, C73221DC@WUVMD (doyle
cozadd) writes:
>My son is in heaven--while moving some boxes from our previous residence,
>a little (~2" snout to vent) five-lined skink crawled in one of the boxes.
>The local pet shop does not seem to know how to care for one so small.
>He got some little crickets, but they look pretty big (relatively) to me.
>I'm sending him to the library to research (he's 10) tomorrow.  Anyone have
>any other advice or experience in the meantime?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Doyle Cozadd
>St. Louis
Flies were always a favorite of mine.....  and meal worms.  I got so I could
catch a fly with my hand and then toss him in the cage.  My kids learned the
knack of hitting them with a fly swatter hard enouth to stun them without 
killing them.  Spiders were eaten also, but I got some nasty bites from house
spiders.
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From: mtaranto@sura.net (Michael Taranto)
Subject: Ball Python questions...
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Distribution: The Internet..
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:31:23 GMT

	I just got my first snake, a Ball Python, and have a few general
questions. I did alot of reading on snake keeping and the Ball Pythons
before I actually got the snake so I would be prepared. The snake is about
3 feet long, so I am assuming it must be an adolescent still. The snake is 
in a 30 gallon aquarium, which is plenty big for him. The tank is lined with
shredded newspaper, a cardboard shoebox with a hole in it, and a driftwood
stand. The tank also has a water bowl in it. I got the snake a week ago and 
am waiting until next week to feed it for the first time. What would be the 
type of food for this first feeding and what should I graduate towards? The 
snake went to the bathroom the first night I had him. Is this a sign of 
something I should be concerned with, other then the fact the snake had to 
piss and shit? What about handling the snake, how often if at all? When I first
picked up the snake at the persons house I got it from, the snake seemed 
shy and hissed. I am very slow in my movements with him. I have not had 
any hissing problems since and in fact tend to think that he does not mind
being handled. Could this be true? How often should I change the beding of the
tank? What is the best material to clean the glass with? I have a heating pad
which sits underneath the tank, which has a glass bottom. The pad is also 
located under the box in the tank. I figured that this would be the best of
both worlds for the snake, a box with a source of heat. Should I be worried
about the snake getting too much heat, the heating pad can't be much 
warmer then 90-95 degrees. Should I turn the heating pad on and off at differenttimes?  I have been on this group since I got the snake and have found it to 
be of great help so far. Some advice on these questions would be great. If
enough people post responses I will be together a document that can be
reposted on this subject. Thanks

Michael Taranto
mtaranto@sura.net

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