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From: vlad@netcom.com (Vladimir Kuznetsov)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Mozart REQUIEM
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:27:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul22.191536.24765@tc.cornell.edu> olin@cheme.tn.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <JIM.92Jul22132804@fuji.eng.yale.edu>, jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.160953.21552@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu>
>>colby@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Colby Leider) writes:
>>>Does anyone know of a good recording of this work?

Try Hogwood's recording with Emma Kirkby. You will be impressed.

vlad
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From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Does the Berg Qt. use Funny Fiddles?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:17:00 GMT

Does the Alban Berg Quartet play period instruments in
all their recordings? They were using them in their recording of
Mozart's G-Minor Quintet, part of which I heard on the radio
last night. 
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From: bamn@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Subject: Bach cantatas:Recommendation
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:54:10 EDT

hi,
i am looking for some cantatas by Bach.
could someone please recommend some really good ones 
that one must have in his collection?
preferably some joyful ones.
also, which CD(s) to buy for these!
thanks in advance
naren

e-mail : bamn@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: etxmtsb@solsta.ericsson.se (Mats Bengtsson  TX/DK )
Subject: Re: Science Fiction Operas Wanted
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:53:11 GMT

The Swedish composer Karl-Erik Blomdahl has written an opera Aniara about 
the life in a spaceship sometime in the future.

         / Mats B
From: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Beethoven's violin concerto
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:40:26 GMT
Reply-To: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie)
>In article <33826@cbmvax.commodore.com> givler@bermuda (Greg Givler) writes:
>>>
>>>>Presently I do not own a copy of this concerto, but it is 
>>>>on my list of things to buy.
>>>Bummer.  I've got one.  What are you waiting for?
>>
>>Well, the disc that I saw had just the concerto. CD's hold over 
>>60 minutes of music and I don't like paying $17.00 for 40.  
>>
>
>Who pays $17 per disc?? You're getting ripped off.

You can get the EMI Perlman/Guilini recording at decent
places at around $15. (in CA, add 8+ % tax !!)  If it's
on sale, you might get away with $13 or $14.  True.
It's only 40 minutes and one concerto.  I'll tell you 
what though...after hearing this, no more $3 CDs for me!
It's just an outstanding recording...just like the 
Heifetz RCA Beethoven/Brahms violin concerto recording.
It [Heifetz/Brahms] might not be DDD, but it's a classic and a necessity
in any serious listener's collection.  I think this Perlman/Beethoven
goes up there too.  A good recording
goes a long way.  My suggestion:  treat it like
an investment and look at the critique guides real carefully
before buying.  I learned this the hard way after wasting
less than $17 on a worthless Tchaikovsky piano concerto
recording.  CD, shmee-dee...you might still pay for what
you get.

Terence
From: wnoe@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Bill Noe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Music from Kubrick's "Barry Lyndon"
Date: 25 Jul 92 22:04:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

A friend and I are interested in identifying (and purchasing) a copy of a march
from Stanley Kubrick's "Barry Lyndon."  The march is heard during Barry's
flight from the British army.  He had previously stolen the uniform and horse
of one of his officers.  This march is also played by the Prussian army band 
in one of the battle scenes.

(My friend suspects that this march may have been written by Frederick the 
Great, since his name appears in the credits, and the use of the march seems
consistent with that of a national anthem, or somesuch...)

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated...

...B
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From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: "The people united will never be defeated" (Was: Minimalists/Andriessen)
Summary: 1990 Swiss CD
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:21:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.014416.3827@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM> rayc@tara.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Ray Cole) writes:

>I've been looking for a recording, preferably on CD, of The People United...
>Does anyone know if such a recording exists.  My father has an old LP (in
>really terrible condition) but I think even that is out of print.  Anyone
>know of a currently available recording?

"telnet melvyl.ucop.edu" yields:

Author:        Rzewski, Frederic.
Uniform title: People united will never be defeated!.
Title:         The people united / Frederic Rzewski. Therwil, Switzerland : Hat
                 Hut, p1990.
Description:   1 sound disc (62 min.) : digital ; 4 3/4 in.

Series:        Hat now. series.

Publisher No.: hat ART CD 6066 Hat Hut

Notes:         Variations on a Chilean revolutionary song, El pueblo unido
                 jamas sera vencido!, by Sergio Ortega.
               Title on container: The people united will never be defeated!
               Compact disc.
               Biographical and program notes by Art Lange, Tom Johnson, and
                 the composer ([9] p. : port.) in container.
               Performers:  Frederic Rzewski, piano.
               Recorded Oct. 1986, Aarhus, Denmark.

Subjects:      Variations (Piano)
               Protest songs.

Other entries: Rzewski, Frederic.
               Ortega, Sergio, 1938- Pueblo unido jamas sera vencido!
               People united will never be defeated!
               Pueblo unido jamas sera vencido.
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From: erwin@helsinki.ks.uiuc.edu (Edgar Erwin)
Subject: Re: Male choral music
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:56:15 GMT

Margaret Mikulska writes
> 
> Speaking of works for male chorus, I have always liked 
> Bohuslav Martinu's "Field Mass"...
>

And I've liked (but not always) Xenakis' `Medea'.  However, I don't know of any  
currently available recordings.  Anyone know of any?

Ed erwin@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
From: maverick@cs.berkeley.edu (Vance Maverick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: minimalism
Date: 22 Jul 1992 19:03:34 GMT
Organization: CS Division, UC Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: ginkgo.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Jul22.164723.7389@Princeton.EDU>, roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul22.022007.26318@slc.com> 
|> marcs@slc.com (Marc San Soucie) writes:
|> >[Glass said] (if I recall 
|> >correctly) that modern composers change their styles too much, and don't 
|> >adequately work out their ideas over time. Perhaps there isn't enough to 
|> >the Einstein idea for 20 years' worth of music.
|> 
|> As for modern composers changing their styles, who might that be?  Not
|> Carter!  Not Babbitt, not even John Williams.  Alfred Schnittke has gone
|> over the same ground many times, often with highly interesting results.

I think Glass was referring to the Beatles.

	Vance
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From: siffert@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Thunder-Thumbs)
Subject: Re: I know it's prob. in the FAQ
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:58:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul15.164949.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> dbarker@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:
>In article <14035tINNq5c@network.ucsd.edu>, mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes:
>> 
>> What's an excellent recording of Ludwig's 9th:  excellent both in
>> performance and sound quality.  Note that "digital" does NOT automatically
>> imply 'excellent' sound quality, by my standards.

>depth, poor dear. Or how about Lenny's 1989 Berlin (ex-)wall extravaganza?

	I have a stupid question about that.  Weren't there two, one
	in east germany and one in west germany?  I've heard from
	a few places that this was the case.  If it's true, where
	is the recording of the other one?  Did it really suck or
	something?  :)  (Or did I just dream this up?)

	Personally, I like the recording I have of Kegel leading
	the dresden orchestra.  I think it was done in the past
	ten years or so - it's the most rhythmically precise of
	all the ones I own.  I especially like the tenor march
	solo (he doesn't scoop the high notes like that guy does
	at the wall, yech).

	heh, sorry I'm being so abstract here... i just know what
	I like, but I'm not too exact on the details...

	Curt

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*  Music techie wanna-be         *   - Me   (Geez, who else?)             *
From: bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Feminist Musicology
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:35:06 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <1992Jul25.140556.16898@highlite.uucp> alan@highlite.uucp (Alan McConnell) writes:
>	It seems that any important striving toward a more liberal
>	and more humane society - can "feminism" be described in
>	any other terms? - will contain, as outliers, some
>	rabid types.  This comes along with being human, I guess.
>	Let's not knock feminism by citing these outliers(general
>	adjuration, no suggestion that Mr Bonness was about to 
>	do any such thing)

Ah, but isn't it to the *advantage* of the feminist
movement, environmentalist movement, whatever, to
have extremist factions? Consider Greenpeace, or the ALF, which 
makes all other animal rights groups look good, even
plausible, by comparison.

Maybe this is exactly what McClary had in mind when she wrote    
Feminine Endings: after reading all of my other, wildly
outlandish articles, people won't find it so hard to
swallow a toned-down version of my theory.   

Do you really find her views to be way out in left field?
I mean, the new Susan McClary is actually kinda believable in a way -
I think she's matured, and that her criticisms have some merit;
with a little imagination, I can hear the sex and violence
she's talking about in some of my CDs.          
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From: pfb3h@bayes.math.Virginia.EDU ()
Subject: Gould & Inventions-- A lousy recording ??
Originator: pfb3h@bayes.math.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:25:11 GMT

Dear Friends,

	I have question concerning a compact disc I have recently acquired.
The disk in question is Glenn Gould's recording of Bach's Two and Three 
part inventions, issued on CBS Masterworks in a two CD set which also 
includes five or six Bach Toccatas.  Here is the question: The recording
sounds pretty bad, in particular, the tone of the piano sounds distorted 
in many places, and sometimes there is a clicking sound.  I am at a loss 
in deciding whether this is a fault with this particular disk, or just 
a bad recording.  
	Could someone who owns this disk comment?  I have other CD's of 
Glenn Gould, also analog recordings, and they sound fine. 


Peter Blanchard
PFb3h@bayes.math.Virginia.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Elijah (was Re: Another Gotterdammerung Mystery)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:07:21 GMT

In article <33249@cbmvax.commodore.com> givler@bermuda (Greg Givler) writes:

[By way of Fischer-Dieskau's Elijah:]

>BTW, for fans of Elijah, the recording is on Angel, with Fruebeck de Burgos, 
>I know I mangled the Spelling of Rafael's name. I think it is exquisite. 
>the Soloists are, Dieskau, Gedda, Baker, and I think Gwenith Jones, there may
>be a fifth female soloist but I can't remember who. 

There's a boy soprano, Simon Woolf. 

>The chorus, which I 
>also can't remember the name of is one of the best sounding choruses. The 
>Tenors are wonderful and so are the Soprano's and the Conductor keeps it
>under wonderful control.

I would strenuously urge that anyone interested in Elijah get the
Sawallisch recording on Philips.  It's in German, which is too bad for
English-speaking listeners, and yes it would have been nice to have
Janet Baker and Nicolai Gedda on this one.  But it is one of the most
successful recordings of a nineteenth-century oratorio that I know.
Everything is recorded with impact and in proper balance, all soloists
are good, and alone among all recordings of this work the proper number
of soloists was hired (there are several ensembles for 8 soloists,
usually taken by chorus to diminished effect).  I'm pleased to find that
for once Alan Blyth (in CHORAL MUSIC ON RECORD) and I are in agreement
about something.

And it has been reissued on CD.

Jon Alan Conrad
From: egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Complete Set of LvB Piano Sonatas(wrong notes)
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:10:20 EDT


> Hear hear.  If your highest priorities for Beethoven performance are
> the fewest wrong notes, the steadiest tempos, and the best recorded
> sound, then Schnabel is not for you.  But some of us have other
> priorities....
> 
> If you are choosing between integral sets of the Beethoven sonatas, I
> would recommend the Schnabel as your first set, especially considering
> the price.  Modern tape-splicing and competitions, which emphasize
> technical perfection, have conditioned us to overreact to wrong notes;
> and one's ear can adjust to 1930s recordings, as one can learn to
> enjoy black-and-white movies.  Listen to Schnabel's recording of the
> last five sonatas if you want to understand why many regard him as the
> finest Beethoven pianist of the century.
> 
> Richard Carnes



	I really don't understand this tolerance for wrong notes and uneven
tempos (I am not talking about a little rubato used).   When do you agree that
there are too many wrong notes?  Maybe two versions of the same piece have the
same number of wrong notes, but one of the version's notes are "more wrong"
than the other's.  When can you no longer tolerate it?

	It seems to me that once a performer decides to record a piece, then
he has agreed to be up to the challenge of playing it correctly.  I, for one,
believe that my ear shouldn't have to adjust to wrong notes.  An excellant
recording consists of a pleasable interpretation of the notes in the piece and
none of these wrong notes.

BrianE
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: steve@fid.morgan.com (Steve Apter)
Subject: Re: minimalism
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:11:17 GMT

In article <BrrFJG.EF@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
>I'm glad to hear that "minimalism" is not your "favorite" genre, but how can you
>justify having any desire to listen to it?  Or are you another of these "Lustigians"
>who don't think that there is any way to evaluate musical quality aside from 
>knee-jerk emotionalism which is beyond explanation?
>
>--Brian
>
>P.S. Yes, I am back!
>

Action stations everyone.  Dive!  Dive!

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh)
Subject: phish 7/26 @ Big Birch - Patterson, NY
Organization: Phishin' Tackle Shop
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:46:16 GMT

*whew*... what a weekend... went up to Connecticut to visit 
tony (twent@wam) and he took me to see phish and santana, over at
big birch. set list:

chalkdust torture
it's ice
divided sky
weigh (trey may have called it "weighing things", he mentioned it being new)
split open and melt
the lizards!
llama

THEY PLAYED LIZARDS! uh huh uh huh... i'm still waiting to hear
them do a live Horn, but never mind that - *bitchin'* solo at the
end of SOaM (no, not FOaM). 

halloo to robert, the only other PhishNet shirt i saw there. 
(and you really *do* look like Wayne.) 

we got extra lucky - the rain held off until phish was done, but
it started to pour once santana came on. (only relevant since we
had lawn seats and NO umbrella.) PLUS, just as we were giving up 
hope (we were standing by the soundboard and saw Paul apparently 
packing up), Carlos goes "...and now we'd like to invite our brothers 
from Phish back onstage..." and away they went. Page, Trey, and Mike 
came out to jam for about 30min or so (beats me, i lost track of 
time) but no fishman. 

after that, we gave up and headed home, soaked to the bone. 

oh... and don't get cherry pies from Burger King unless you have a fork.

peaceful phishin'
amie
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From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions (was, Re: uh....)
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:30:59 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <14g38tINNkii@agate.berkeley.edu> shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson (+Spector)) writes:
>
>(Actually, it turns out that the correct lyrics to Llama are not part of
>this FAQ, as had been suggested; but it doesn't seem to me that there
>should be much need to include them since they can easily be found on
>the insert which comes with A Picture of Nectar.  But it's time to post
>this again, anyway.)

Untrue.... The "Leave it on press, depress, depress" part was purposely
omitted from the lyrics...  The Llama lyrics and the Y.E.M. lyrics used
to be part of the FAQ and they should be Re-Added!  Please shelly?

Wash-a-Uffitze and drive me to Great Woods!

-jg
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From: eisenhof@zax.eda.teradyne.com (Karl Eisenhofer)
Subject: Shockra dates for august
Originator: eisenhof@zax
Reply-To: eisenhofer@maven.dnet.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:29:33 GMT


Here are the upcoming dates for Shockra for the month of
August:

1 (Saturday):  opening for the Aquarium Rescue Unit at
	Peabody's Down Under, Cleveland OH (216) 241-2451  9pm
	21+

6 (Thursday):  Maple Valley Ski Lodge, Dummerston VT
	(802) 254-6083 All Ages 9pm sharp

7 (Friday):  Norton's,  Kittery ME
	(207) 254-7892  21+

8 (Saturday):  The Three's, Newport RI
	(401) 846-4010  21+

14 (Friday):  Granny Killam's, Portland ME
	(207) 761-2787  21+

15 (Saturday):  The Church House Inn,  Providence RI

21 (Friday):  Municipal Cafe,  Hartford CT
	(203) 527-5044

25 (Tuesday):  The Ocean Mist,  Matunuck RI
	
26 (Wednesday): The Wetlands,  New York NY
	(212) 966-4221

27 (Thursday):  TBA  NJ? RI? CT?

28 (Friday):  Aiko's,  Saratoga NY
	(518) 583-3241

29 (Saturday):  Horizontal Boogie Bar, Rochester NY
	10pm 18+

Here is what the band has to say:

"Greetings!  Thanks to all who made our recent midwest-Colorado
 tour such a success.  So much so that we are returning in Oct.
This time we're looking for a merchandise person who has motivation,
strength, honesty, a sense of adventure and a reliable vehicle.
We'll pay your travel expenses!  We're still looking for that killer
multi-sax player!  Dutch East India Trading Company is doing a great
job of getting CD, _Garuda's Groove_ into the stores.  Ask your
favorite store to order it from them, or you can get it directly
from:  Family Tree Merchandising 161 Main Street Suite A Burlington
VT 05401, $12 CDs, $8 Tapes, plus $2.50 P&H each order.  Make checks
payable to SHOCKRA 40 Charlesbank Rd. Newton MA 02158, or give us
a call at (617) 964-4490, which is also the number of the infamous
SHOCKLINE!  If you can give us a hand with promotion, or anything else,
call us at (802) 860-1991.  Til next time, SPREAD THE FUNKY WORD!!!!!!!"


I think that I will be going to the Newport show at the Three's.  I
would definitely like to spend the day hanging in Newport, with a 
Shockra show following.  Irie!!!!  Anyone want to get together?

Karl
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Karl Eisenhofer  SPIKE  eisenhofer@maven.dnet.teradyne.com
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From: af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alan S. Ferrency)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: How about a live album
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:32:58 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>In article <1992Jul25.150226.23798@wam.umd.edu> jdh@next08csc.wam.umd.edu (Jonathan David Harris) writes:
>>Me and my buddy were talking yesterday and we would really like to see a
>>double live album featuring stuff that you can't get on record.  Just
>>curious what everyone thinks about this
>
>That sounds like a DAMN good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>                               HAROLD

Sounds kinda like a good bootleg to me.
It's a good idea, but tapes of shows are free and widely available (and "more
cool" (don't flame me on this one please)) so probably a live record or CD
wouldn't do very well for Phish or Elektra, money-wise, which is probably
mostly what Elektra is thinking of...

Personally, I'd like to hear, on an album, stuff that just can't be done live.
I'm not really sure what that is yet, but I'm sure they'll think of something.

-me
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