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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:46:52 EDT
From:         Bond <tbont@IEEEPUB.ORG>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS
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I'm interested in making a digital recording of an acoustical
performance and then peddling the master as a potential CD.
Has anyone ever done this, and would they be willing to share
what they learned along the way? Also, what is the minimum
recording equipment necessary to produce a master for a CD?
Can off-the-shelf DAT recorders with high sampling
rates be used?

Total thanks in advance.

Bont
tbont@ieeepub.org                         ZAMFIR RULES
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:27:00 EST
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Subject:      re: oh no! the CDs are falling!

>From:         RUXPIN <UCSTJT@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>

>        I don't understand why someone would bitch if they paid $14 for a
>   compact disc that lasted 15 years.  That is less than one dollar per year
>   for a disc that you probably won't even care about after 12 years.  After
>   all, how many of the cassettes that you bought back in 1980 are you still
>   listening to on a regular basis?

As antecdotal evidence, roughly half of my last big CD splurge was music
recorded in the early seventies.  True, I am not fanatical about *all*
the music I purchased in the seventies (I will not buy CDs of Procol
Harum's Chrysalis albums, for example.  Those were big disappointments.),
but there is a lot that I care about very much indeed.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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              Ayr (823-3189)" <drobb@AYOV27.ENET.DEC.COM>
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Hi!

I'd be obliged if you could please add me to the distribution list for
'ALLMUSIC'.

Thanks in advance,

- Dougie Robb @ Digital Equipment, Ayr, Scotland.
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:13:22 -0400
From:         "I'm God and don't care what you say." <NORWOODR@HARTWICK.EDU>
Subject:      RE: LPS FOR SALE!
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Why do I have about five copies of your advertisement to sell lps in my
mailer?  It certainly does like to take up space...
Rob.
norwoodr@hartwick.edu
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:19:23 EDT
From:         ST102394@BROWNVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: DR DEMENTO LIVES!!!!!!

about Dr. Demento, he is still on, at least in Providence.  He is distributed
over the Westwood One radio network in Culver City, CA.  you can probably call
them and find out if a station carries him in your area.

                                                        ---MARTY C
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:35:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Lou Reed Box Set

Yesterday I took a look at the 3CD Lou Reed collection.  I think that I
already have too much of what is included to justify the $35 cost, but
I do have a few questions about some of the song titles.  I knew better
than to ask the clerks at the store, so I appeal to AllMusic in my quest
for information.

Some of the songs listed are old Velvet Underground songs, e.g. "Sweet
Jane", "Rock and Roll", "Heroin".  I would assume that the versions
in the new collection are live recordings from Lou's _Rock and Roll
Animal_ and _Lou Reed Live_ albums, but it's possible the record
company used the Velvet Underground studio versions or even the live
versions from the _1969_ album.  Does someone know which versions
are in the new set?

One title listed is "Metal Machine Music". 8-)  Just out of curiousity,
how long is that track?

The track listing did not distinguish between studio and live recordings.
Are there any previously unreleased live recordings?  In particular, are
"Vicious Circle" and "Temporary Thing" studio or live?  Those two songs
were so powerful when I saw him at Masonic Hall in Detroit and fairly
whimpy on the album, so if the box set includes live versions of those
two, it starts getting tempting.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University

PS Playing "top 3" games is too painful for me [I have trouble limiting
myself to "top 300" 8-)], but one of my favorite heavy metal songs is
"Black Angel's Death Song" off the first Velvet Underground album.
"Sister Ray" off the second album is another contender.  I suppose the
lack of drums disqualifies "Metal Machine Music" 8-), but that may well
be the ultimate heavy metal song title.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:07:58 CET
From:         Sebastian James Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>

>Hey you guys out there...
>.
>.
>Sometimes I wonder if you guys can talk about metal rock only...
>Isn't anybody out there interested in pop rock ?

 Not only metal, but yes there does seem to be a definate bias towards your
more mainstream rock music. Remember this list originates from America, land
of bland AOR music and talentless corporate rock. But look at some of the
postings, very interesting (but I still don't know who this Vinnie person or
Steve Vai is), I do enjoy some of the mail I read but there is a definate
trend towards the mundane and bland. But don't worry what I say, I'm sure
someone will put me right (or should that be down!)

>.
>Who would like to talk about Rick Astley, Debbie Gibson, Seal, The Pet
>Shop Boys and much more ?

 Probably because they're pap, useless British no-hopers (apart from Gibson).
Seal has only had one major hit yet walks away with the majority of BAFTA
awards (so corruption is still rife in the music industry), PSB have plagarised
every electro-pop band to be where they are now and really only appeal to
little girls (Neil Tennant was a journalist who used to write for Smash Hits,
a little girl pop magazine) and Rick Astley was made by the great and
wonderful PWL organisation, who even as I write now seem to have changed their
ways and are releasing some of the hottest dance music. PWL are the
independant yet corporate music moguls otherwise known as Stock, Aitken and
Waterman. the doyens of innumerable trash throwaway hits. They, and their
stable, suck. But still, if you wish to talk about it, please do go ahead.
After all this is ALLMUSIC and if disposable moronic bland throwaway American
music can be discussed than I'm sure boring heap-of-shite British music can.

Seb

ObCdPlayer: The End of Music As We Know It, Various

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:21:42 PST
From:         Mary Rekucki <MARY@UCSFHC.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Van Halen/Music List
              13 Apr 1992 09:57:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

>I saw 'em at the Monsters Of Rock  show a couple years back. I think they did
> "Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love" and that is all I can remember...they did some of
> Sammy's old ones.
>
> THey might have done "Panama"

I saw them on the Monsters Of Rock tour also. They did Panama, Ain't Talkin
Bout Love and Sammys I Can't Drive 55.         MARY
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:12:13 EDT
From:         Don <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hellfire CDs

The greatest thing about the Cd when it came was that you play it over
and over again without worrying about *wearing* it out, such as the case
with a tape or record. The oxidation is something that takes time, not
how much you play the CD. There are millions and millions of tiny bits on
a CD, that is why the CD sounds so great, even if you lose a lot of them
the human ear will not be able to tell the difference. Over time though
as the number of bits begin to disappear the sound quality will decrease
to the point where you *will* notice. Just like once a car begins to rust
and it spreads over time pretty much uncontrolbly so does the oxidation
on a CD. Like a cancer. It's too bad, they are a revolutionary invention.
Being in conatct with people who know the music industry in and out, many
of them say that the damn things will drop severely in price as people
begin to realize what the hell is happening...could the DAT be the next
phase? We should soon know...
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 13:23:00 CST
From:         GDLAC@CANAL.CRC.UNO.EDU
Subject:      Metal list

5. Unskinny Bop				Poison... NOT!!!
5. Toxic Waltz				Exodus, _Fabulous Disaster_
4. Tornado of Souls			Megadeth, _Rust in Peace_
3. Tainted Past				Armored Saint, _Symbol of Salvation_
2. Orion				Metallica, _Master of Puppets_
1. Cemetary Gates			Pantera, _Cowboys from Hell_

	This is sort of my list... I could name about 25 other songs that are
still among my favorites. Most of them would make the top 5... hell, most of
them would tie for the #1 spot! These do-- I ranked them according to alpha
order :-).

Gerald D. Ladmirault

METAL RULES!!! POISON TO ALL WHO (AP)POSE!!!
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:43:12 MDT
From:         "not waving but drowning..." <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: T'PAU,
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>
>Did y'all get my message about T'pau??? I really want to find the CD because
>it has sentimental meaning!!!!  Does anyone out there listen to them?????
>
>
>
>                                        Stephanie(supsfran@stetson)


Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't T'pau Canadian??  If so, I'll probably be
able to find that CD for you here in Bumfuck, Alberta... :)

Carol the Canookie (watson@hg.uleth.ca)
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From:         "not waving but drowning..." <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: Yellow is the color of my true love's hair
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Gerald catches me and says:

>Now... Carol, even *you* are gonna be razzing you for this one:
>
>>Yes... but consonance has it's place in the sheer fact that it is bland and
>>goes down easy.  I tell you, when I have had a real shitty day at work and my
>>boss is riding me [other stuff deleted]
>
>	So... you must have pretty interesting "hard" days at work, eh Carol?

Ah... if only they were THAT interesting...  :)   I admit it... I fucked up my
phrasing on that one... poor choice of words.

Then Michael added his:

>Yup, and me too. *RZZZZZZZZPPPPHHHHLLLLTTTT* It was pretty weak. Let's have
>some finesse and subtlety in these 900-number type posts!

Whaddaya mean "weak"?  I swear that was unintentional!  You perverts just read
it the wrong way... ;)  We Canookies have our own lingo, EH! :)  So take
off, ya hoseheads! :)  Finesse, well, that comes later when the lights are
out... and as far as subtleness goes, that's as subtle as I get.  So just stop
it now! You are going to get me in trouble with the Progressive Conversative
again...  :*}

Notice that my reference to "riding" came BEFORE all this talk about the wild
west... further proof of my innocence... :)

>"Oh Carol, don't ever give your heart away,
> I'm gonna learn to dance if it takes me all night and day!"
>                                             -- C. Berry

This confirms you as the ultimate King of Cheese... :)

OMC: Anyone else wanna sing for me??  Stevie?  Sing me one of those funny dirty
     songs...  *giggle*

BTW: Scooter Hammer, congrats on your marriage!  So tell us... what cheesy
song did you two pick for your first dance?  :)  You guys would never guess
what mine was...  :)

- Carol,
 whose been into S & M lately -- He (S)leeps and I (M)asterbate...
 Damn the playoffs are on again...  :)
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:52:39 -0400
From:         Ram Samudrala <SVVAIKUN@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
Subject:      smells like nirvana
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Sid (from the punk-list) posted this... I thought you guys might get a kick
out it. It's hilarious!!

--Ram

--
SMELLS LIKE NIRVANA
by "Weird Al" Yankovic

What is this song all about?
Can't figure any lyrics out
How do the words to it go?
I wish you'd tell me, I don't know
Don't know, don't know, don't know, oh no
Don't know, don't know, don't know...

Now I'm mumblin', and I'm screamin',
And I don't know what I'm singing'
Crank the volume, ears are bleedin'
I still don't know what I'm singin'
We're so loud and incoherent
Boy this outta bug yer parents
Yeah

It's unintel-ligible
I just can't get it through my skull
It's hard to bargle nawdle zouss
With all these marbles in my mouth
don't know, don't know, don't know, oh no
don't know, don't know, don't know...

Well we don't sound like Madonna
Here we are now we're Nirvana
Sing distinctly? We don't wanna
Buy our album, we're Nirvana
A garage band from Seattle
Well it sure beats raising cattle
Yeah

Well I forgot the next verse
Oh well, I guess it pays to rehearse
The lyric sheet's so hard to find
What are the words? Oh, nevermind
don't know, don't know, don't know, oh no
don't know, don't know, don't know...

Well I'm yellin'
And we're playin'
But I don't know what I'm sayin'
What's the message I'm conveyin'
Can you tell me what I'm sayin'?
So have you got some idea?
Didn't think so - well, I'll see ya

Sayonara, sayonara
Ayonawa, odinawa
Odinaya, yodinaya
Yaddayadda, Yaahyaah,
Ayaaaaah!



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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:53:59 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Yellow is the color of my true love's hair

On Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:42:00 EST Jim Kirkman (LP) said:
>> We chose a medley of two tunes by another King of Cheese, the venerable
>> Harry Connick, Jr., "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" and "It Had To Be You."
>> Pretty cheesy, huh?
>>
>  Not to be to be picky but I believe Harry was just giving us his
>  version of these classics, as is obvious by the verse your mama
>  taught you. Unfortunately my reservoir of knowledge can't come
>  up with the original authors, somebody like Hoagy Carmichael or
>  somebody(s) from that era. I've got Satchmo's version of "Don't
>  Get Around Much...; whoa!, flash!! how about Johnny Mercer, at least
>  for "It Had To Be You"
>
I didn't mean to imply that I thought these were Connick originals.  In fact
I guess I've always thought of "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" as a Duke
Ellington song.  Is it, in fact?

-Scott "Non-Jazz Historian" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:35:00 EDT
From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Oh no! The CDs are falling!!!

     I also have been buying CD's for about 9 years now.  There is no
evidence of the older ones wearing out.  Will they just one day stop
working ?

     I'm sorry it sounds to crazy, if true the record companies are in
for a lot of law suites.

Steve Rife
(STEV@MCO)
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:31:00 EST
From:         CMBIRCH@INDSVAX1.BITNET
Subject: RE: Song Lyrics?

Someone said that the Waitin' for the Bus/Jesus Left Chicago
were split on ZZ Top's "Greatest Hits" Album.  Wrong.  They both
flow together just like on Tres Hombres.

Jade

VAXist from ISU.
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 10:59:54 EDT
From:         Don <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sony, Alpine, Kenwood
              4 Apr 1992 16:03:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

I own a lot of Kenwood equipment, in my apartment, not in  car though.
I plan on putting a nice system in my car maybe this summer, when I do
I most likely will go with Kenwood. I have had my stuff for two years now,
and have had no problems only that my speakers (NOT KENWWODS) have trouble
handling the power and high-end CD sound when played really loud. I respect
Kenwood and would not think twice about buying a piece of their equipment.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:26:34 EDT
From:         Ken Josenhans <13020KRJ@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Brand Loyalty

     The closest thing I have to a sense of Brand Loyalty is my
devotion to the British label Cooking Vinyl.   CV has been the home
of the Oyster Band for about six years now, and label founder
Pete Lawrence was the guy who took his Walkman to Texas and made a
star out of Michelle Shocked.  (And later they ended up "in litigation"
with each other, sigh...)  Other enjoyable CV albums have come from
The Barely Works, Machanic Manyeureke & The Puritans, Andy White,
Ewan MacColl, and God's Little Monkeys.  I figure I have about half
of the 35-40 albums which CV has released.

     Pete Lawrence left the label when it suffered a cash crunch at the
end of 1990.  His new label, Pure Bliss, is batting 1.000 so far;
WICKED MEN by Edward II is an interesting blend of reggae and English
folk dance style.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:55:05 MET
From:         Stas Philippe <philstas@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: ROM, I said
              92

>I plan on posting the 3M article to the list, as long as it isn't extremely
>long, if it is I will post as much of it as I can.
>
>
>Steve Rife
>(STEV@MCO)

Terrific idea, since then we'll know who started this discussion and
how far we're getting the problem.

Johor

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Subject:      SIGEP!

From: accnuf@hofstra.bitnet (THE FEAR THAT LIES WITHIN)
Subject: SIGEP!

QUESTION:



        ARE THERE ANY SIGMA PHI EPSILON BROTHERS OUT THERE.......





JUST WONDER......
NF!
SIGEP!
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:21:54 EST
From:         dave <SOEDAVE@VM.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS

Why do I keep hearing Michael Jackson used as the yard stick for everthing
south of the border. Is this what Americans consider sucess? Who cares what he
does or doesn't do, gets or can't get?

To: HUH
Music is more than sleazy economics.

              EH
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:53:00 EDT
From:         "BTW, which one's Pink?" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: RUSH List

>In the first message you get, they describe the list and how it
>works. It said there are over 1,300 members all over the world, which
>I was surprised about. When I was reading it last night, there was

Supposedly the RUSH members know about the list and think it's pretty cool.
Just thought I'd throw that in....

BTW, anyone know the legal situation with bootlegs.  I have the opportuntiy
to buy/sell them and I want to know what the deal is before I get into it.

I mean, I know it's illegal to produce them in the U.S., but what about selling
ones that have been produced over in Italy?  I would think that would be O.K,
but if it is, why don't any of the stores around here carry them.  I have to
go up to Northern Va. to get any.  Although, I now have the chance to bring
some large quantities in fairly cheap...... so what's the deal?????????

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:28:40 EDT
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: what if

>  Ok, what if CDs had never been invented?  We would still be buying
>vinyl albums and/or tapes.  Both of these are known to wear out.  I
>doubt they would cost much less than the $10 or so we pay for CDs now.

  The difference is that tapes and lps wear out from use and misuse,
and not simply storage.

                       -T
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:14:00 EST
From:         EJCLAUS@INDSVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Weird Al/Nirvana

I just saw the Weird Al "Smells Like Nirvana" video on EmptyV. (I'm home sick fr
   om
work today--bored as hell). It's funny as hell. Check it out.
        --PC
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