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From: relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: EX-CAMPER VAN BEETHOVEN
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:00:53 GMT
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l

In the referenced article, neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) writes:
>-> From: mccourt@plains (Mark McCourt)
>->
>-> Several weeks ago someone posted info on what has
>-> become of what was Camper Van Beethoven.  I guess
>-> _Monks of Doom_ is part of that group, but what became
>-> of the violinist and lead vocalist?  Have they formed a
>-> new group?  Thanks all.
>
>Well, the lead singer formed Cracker (check 'em out).  As for the
>violinist, who knows?  BTW:  Monks of Doom are hot.

Yeah, David Lowery formed Cracker, mostly a straight ahead rock band.
Mostly.

Jonathan Segel, the original violinist, left before CVB's "Key Lime
Pie" album was recorded, and was replaced by Morgan Fichter.  Jonathan
Segel is, to my knowledge, involved with two bands currently, one
called Hieronymus Firebrain and another called Sideways.  The former
has an album out, but the personnel on the album have since been
replaced and the live band is entirely different.

Morgan Fichter played with Jane's Addiction on tour and most recently
played on the Wellsprings of Hope album with Pat Johnston, Chris
Cavacas and Penelope Houston, among others.

The other three members of CVB are in the Monks of Doom, and they are
probably the most interesting band of all of the above, at least
musically speaking.  Inventive and intense, playing strange and
sometimes beautiful music.

If you are interested in a Camper Van Beethoven and family
discography, send e-mail to me.

	-- John
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From: skmurphy@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Sean Keric Murphy)
Subject: Re: New Pearl Jam
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:00:33 GMT

In article <chappy.724997199@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> chappy@cis.ksu.edu (Douglas R Chapman) writes:
>
>We just receive a new 45rpm single from pearl jam.  It is called Sonic Reducer
>which is a cover song(cant remember who did it originally).  Does anyone have
>any info on this?  Is it just a single they felt like releasing or is a new
>album coming out?
>

The original is by the DEAD BOYS, one of the snottiest punk bands ever
(and unfortunately, probably the best known Cleveland band ever).  The
song was actually written before there was a Dead Boys -
most of the Dead Boys used to be in a totally ruling band called Rocket
From The Tombs, along with David Thomas and Peter Laughner, who founded
Pere Ubu.  Sonic Reducer is one of the few Dead Boys songs that Thomas
admits to writing anymore, although he basically wrote half of the Dead
Boys first LP.  

Bullet LaVolta also does a cover of Sonic Reducer, on a single I found
last Christmas on Glitterhouse (it blows away Pearl Jam, but then most
bands blow away Pearl Jam :) ).

For real Cleveland musici from the old days, check out Pere Ubu (old stuff, not 
the new shit), Rocket From The Tombs (bootleg LP - it's fucking awesome), the
Styrenes (re-released on Homestead on CD last December), the Mirrors,
and the Electric Eels (also re-released last year on H-stead).  The Dead
Boys are OK, but they don't hold a candle to any of these guys.

Sean Murphy
skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu

Plainfield, Wisconsin,
home of Ed Gein,
Can we go there?
		- Unrest

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: u920381@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Alexander Lum)
Subject: Compiling list of mailing lists...Help?
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:07:31 GMT

It seems very common for people to request the addresses for various
mailing lists, so I thought I would try to compile a list of music mailing
lists, and post it every so often.

If you are on a mailing list, or are the administrator of one, could you
mail me the address for people wishing to join, and I will organise them
and send them to anyone who wants one.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dave Walker)
Subject: Re: What else is good by 808 State?
Keywords: 808
Organization: U of Michigan Computer Aided Engineering Network
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:39:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.051434.8819@panix.com> spingo@panix.com (James Barnett) writes:
>Hiya folks. I picked up "ooops" by 808 State with Bjork from the Sugarcubes 
>and dug it pretty righteously. Now what I wanna know is:
>
>	has she done anything else with them?
>	And even if not, can you give me recommendations as to what else
>	   by 808 State would be worth picking up 9and has been released
>	   in the US)?
>

"Ooops" is the only 808 State track Bjork has performed on, although I
believe 808 State may have remixed a track or two on the new
Sugarcubes "Itsit" CD.  Note: 808 State remixes are usually entirely
new backing tracks, so these might count more as "collaborations" than
as remixes.

It's very, very hard to go wrong with 808 State.  Probably the best
place for a new listener to start would be the "Utd. State 90" disc,
which contains the now famous "Pacific" and the original mix of
the perhaps more famous "Cubik".  Many people (myself included) 
consider this the best electronic dance disc released this decade.
The disk "ex:el" is also quite good, though not quite as coherent
as "90".  This is the album "ooops" comes from.  They have a new
disc coming out "real soon now", to be called "Gorgeous".  The first
single from it, "Timebomb" was released quite some time ago and is
very easy to find.  Opinions are mixed on the "Timebomb" single --
the title track is pretty lightweight breakbeat techno, but the
b-side, "Nimbus", is a gorgeous trance piece.  The third track
(presented in two versions) is an OK but not great tribal track.
But "Nimbus" on it's own is worth the price of the single.

| Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS)                                |
|                                          "I don't read, I just guess"  |
| marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu       -Happy Mondays, "Wrote For Luck"  |
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 18:37:55 EST
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Mary's Danish

In article <C056Bz.JCv@rice.edu>, dafer@owlnet.rice.edu (Daryl Anderson Foster) says:
>
>I was wanting to get some information about the group, Mary's Danish.
>What other albums do they have available besides "American Standard"?
>Are these worth getting.  Could I get some background information on
>the band?

Mary's Danish have the following releases, in addition to _Amer. Stand._.
All are worthwhile, though I like the first one best.

              Mary's Danish
              There Goes The Wondertruck...
              1989  Chameleon
              Time -  34:03
              Tracks - 12
              Catalog Number - D2-74803
              Source - CD
              -------------------------------
              Don't Crash the Car Tonight
              Can I Have a Smoke, Dude?
              Ashes
              What to Do
              Blue Stockings
              Well Well (Home is Where the Heartbreak is)
              DVB
              Shanty Pig
              Hey There Man
              It'll Probably Make Me Cry
              Mary Had a Bar
              Dodge City

              Mary's Danish
              Experience
              1990  Chameleon
              Time -  22:02
              Tracks -  7
              Catalog Number - D2-74841
              Source - CD
              -------------------------------
              Tracy in the Bathroom Killing Thrills
              Blue Stockings
              Don't Crash the Car Tonight
              Hey There Man
              It'll Probably Make Me Cry
              Shanty Pig
              Foxey Lady

              Mary's Danish
              Circa
              1991  Morgan Creek
              Time -  52:38
              Tracks - 17
              Catalog Number - 2959-20003-2
              Source - CD
              -------------------------------
              Yellow Creep Around
              Julie's Blanket (pigsheadsnakeface)
              Beat Me Up
              Louisiana
              Mr. Floosack
              Hoof
              Tracy in the Bathroom Killing Thrills
              Ablone Blues
              7 Deadly Sins
              Bombshell
              Foxey Lady
              Down
              These Are All the Shapes Nevada Could Have Been
              Venus Loves Leonard
              Hellflower
              Axl Rose is Love
              Cover Your Face

-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: bst@wang.com (Bruce Tannenbaum)
Subject: NEED LYRICS TO A SMALL VICTORY
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:05:12 GMT
Summary: Who's got 'em???
Keywords: Faith,No,More,Lyrics

I received a copy of Faith No More's _A Small Victory_ as a present.  I've
always liked the song, but I've never been able to decipher the words.
Would someone post/e-mail the lyrics for me, please??  I am unable to ftp
to any lyrics servers, otherwise I would try that.

Thanks,

Bruce <bst@wang.com> but not working for Wang
-- 
Bruce S. Tannenbaum (RADAR) <bst@wang.com>
VoiceCom Systems Inc., San Francisco, CA and Tewksbury, MA.
"I have a cunning plan!"
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Songs about McDonalds
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 04:51:02 GMT


In article <1992Dec23.101834.4285@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, u6104701@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:
|> In article <1992Dec22.011812.14668@mel.dit.csiro.au>, brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
|> > 
|> > ...and on with a couple more verses
|> 
|> come on brian you can do better than that.
|> 

OK - here's some more..

some like ?kizally? and that means please
but i like the ones with ricotta cheese
you're gonna have to sit here among these fake trees
you're gonna have a ...pastizzi with me

will the hamburlger be there?
no i don't think so
melon cheese be there?
no i don't think so
grimace be there?
no I don't think so
will ronald mc donald be there?
what about his wife?

no i don't think so

various mixes of chorous (will ?? be there) follow with noise etc.

Trivia point #99 - It's their longest song to date at 4:08...most 
                   of their previous songs clocked in at around 2:00

Why? Damned if I know.

brian
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From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Poppies
Date: 2 Jan 93 15:28:38 GMT

ajaffray@quads.uchicago.edu (alan jaffray) writes:

>Speaking of the Poppies, I was very disappointed by their latest album.
>I liked _This Is The Day, This Is The Hour, This Is This!_ very much
>because it has a lot of energy but is still catchy, because of the 
>darkly amusing lyrics, because of the interesting noise and the layering
>of effects and samples continually in the background.. (which isn't a
>very good description if you haven't heard them before, but will suffice
>if you have).  _Cure For Sanity_ was good, but too tame and not as 
>complicated... _The Looks Or The Lifestyle_ is, at least from the first
>couple of listenings, just boring rap over pure pop music... though that
>"power exists in everyone!" sample they use in Karmadrone is funny as
>hell, at least to me...

I don't know if I'm really a good person to compare the albums, since the
one I have is The Looks Or The Lifestyle, but after the first few
listenings, I really got into it.  It's one of the best albums I've bought
this year.  
-- 
               -  Ishir Bhan -  ibhan@husc.harvard.edu  - 
                                     - - - 
           "The sky and the impossible explode..." -The Cure
From: chappy@cis.ksu.edu (Douglas R Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: New PJ 45
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:31:48 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: cygnus.cis.ksu.edu

2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu (Overworked-unpaid grad student) writes:


>Ok...
>I have yet to see the Sonic Reducer 45..but

>If the B-side is called "Ramblings II" then the single is the xmas gift
>from the band to the Ten Club (their fan club)....Epic will (or did) send
>a zillion copies out as promo to writers, radio, stores, etc...

>Last years gift was a single called "Let Me Sleep" w/ "Ramblings" on the flip
>side...Worth about $10 for you collector-scum...

>This one will probably be worth $12-18 as their are fewer being pressed...
>I don't have exact pressing numbers...


>If the B-side to this single is NOT "ramblings II"...then I have no idea what
>this single could be...

Yes the B-side is ramblings II.

>Later
>-justin
-- 
Doug R. Chapman
Assistant Music Director
KSDB FM
Kedzie Hall Rm104
From: batboy@carson.u.washington.edu (Thomas Radke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Questions/Comments from Seattle
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:00:21 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

>Someone posted earlier that Babes in T'land broke up and mentioned the
>lead singer's hubby(fiance?) as being the lead goat in Lubricated Goat.  I
>saw these two bands a month or so ago and _loved_ Lubricated Goat.  They
>were the epitome of bad crazyness.  They kept lighting their hair on fire
>while they played.  they accused the crowd of being the "harriest
>motherfuckers" they'd seen.  I guess they're from Australia.  Can anyone
>give me info on albumns?

>A plug:  A great band I just heard was Sage.  They're local (Seattle) but
>play a great mix of jazzy/grungy/rockabilly.  None of this three-chord
>crap; the guitarist is incredible.  I liked 'em better sittin' down than
>standin' up (kinda hard to rock to with tempo changes and what not).

>I'm curious.  I haven't been outta town for a long fuckin' time (and I'm
>sick as hell of it) and I was wondering which of our incredible bands (tm)
>were being heard across the land.  How about:  Hammerbox, Black Happy
>(actually from Spokane, i think), the aforementioned Sage, Sky Cries Mary. 
>Any others (no, besides THOSE!)  I can't think.

>What's the drug scene like in your towns?  Heroin was way up for a long
>time, esp. among musicians and wanna bes.  Anyone drop and go see some of
>the more intense/ethereal bands (ie Ministry, My Bloody Valentine, Sky
>Cries Mary...)?

>Finally, if you're not listenin' to the Cocteau Twins, well, I'm just
>gonna have to hold you down and fart on your face.

-tom
From: chappy@cis.ksu.edu (Douglas R Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: ministry and country music.
Date: 22 Dec 1992 03:27:57 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept of Computing & Information Sciences
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cygnus.cis.ksu.edu
Originator: chappy@cis.ksu.edu


In article <njm2p9#@rpi.edu>, vigilr@bray1b.its.rpi.edu ( nine inch nails ) writes:
|> In article <Dec16.031446.46495@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein) writes:
|> |> In article <95039@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> bbeagan@gmr.com writes:
|> |> >In article 1gl2n4INN4r9@bigboote.WPI.EDU, timothy@wpi.WPI.EDU writes:
|> |> >>In article <1992Dec15.010818.3457@athena.mit.edu> arashk@athena.mit.edu writes:
|> |> >>>at the ministry/helmet show they played the countriest country music between
|> |> >>>sets. I thought it was pretty damn cool.
|> |> >>>ak
|> |> >>
|> |> >>A friend of mine from Chicago said that Al Jourgensen is getting heavily into
|> |> >>country music and is even looking to move Wax Trax to Nashville, so he will
|> |> >>be closer to Country musicians so he can record with them.
|> |> >>tim
|> |> >
|> |> >Am I the only person who finds all this very disturbing?
|> |> >
|> |> >Brian.
|> |> 
|> |> yes.
|>  
|> Well, i would really hate if ministry went even relatively country. The long lost
|> days of Twitch and the Land of Rape and Honey, i guess, are really lost.
|> 
|> 
|> -RV
Ministry said they were into country as a joke.  Al Jourgensen actually hates
country music.  Or so I have been told.
-- 
Doug R. Chapman
Assistant Music Director
KSDB FM
Kedzie Hall Rm104
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From: dwj@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Daniel W. James)
Subject: Re: HELP please: New Order mailing list
Reply-To: ccpoabt!dan@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Daniel James)
Organization: CCPOA Benefit Trust Fund
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:42:11 GMT

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:

>Would someone please email me the address of the Ceremony mailing list?

Followup, rather than email as others might be interested.  If everyone
mailed everything, the net would be a rather boring place :) :)  Anyway...

subscription-requests:  ceremony-request@iastate.edu
moderator            :  ceremony-owner@iastate.edu
submissions          :  ceremony@iastate.edu
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From: marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dave Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What else is good by 808 State?
Keywords: 808
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:12:54 GMT
Organization: U of Michigan Computer Aided Engineering Network

In article <1992Dec28.140549.9086@news.cs.brandeis.edu> weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.133947.16081@zip.eecs.umich.edu> marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dave Walker) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec28.051434.8819@panix.com> spingo@panix.com (James Barnett) writes:
>>>Hiya folks. I picked up "ooops" by 808 State with Bjork from the Sugarcubes 
>>>and dug it pretty righteously. Now what I wanna know is:
>>>
>>>	has she done anything else with them?
>>>	And even if not, can you give me recommendations as to what else
>>>	   by 808 State would be worth picking up 9and has been released
>>>	   in the US)?
>>>
>>
>>"Ooops" is the only 808 State track Bjork has performed on
>
>"Qmart" from the same album (_ex:el_) also features Bjo:rk on it. Pick up
>_ex:el_ (it also has a track with Bernard Sumner of New Order on it), although
>be warned that most of it is instrumental trance-dance music. If you like
>that, get the harder (and better IMHO) _Utd._State_90_.
>

"ooops" is right.  I feel like an idiot :-) -> I'd forgotten about
"qmart".

| Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS)                                |
|                                          "I don't read, I just guess"  |
| marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu       -Happy Mondays, "Wrote For Luck"  |
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: itch@cbnews.cb.att.com (richard.m.brack)
Subject: Re: Poppies
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:53:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.093719.8657@midway.uchicago.edu>, ajaffray@quads.uchicago.edu (alan jaffray) writes:
> 
> End of warning, beginning of question: Would I like _Go Box Frenzy!_ or
> other earlier stuff?  How does it compare to these three albums?  And
> is any of it available domestically in the US?

You would probably like _Go Box Frenzy_, it's quite 'lighter' than
_This is The Day..._ but it is a lot of fun.  If you go earlier than
that (_Now for a Feast_) you get basicly guitar based punk-pop type
stuff (ok, some i'm no good at describing music!).  I like it but some
PWEI fans don't.  Personally, my favorite is _This is The Day..._ and least
favorite is _The Looks or The Lifestyle_ (though there are a few real good
tunes there).  I very much enjoy all their earlier stuff!


Now, my question...  There are 5 guys on the cover of the new album.  I've
only ever seen 4 guys before, so who's the new guy????


Rich...
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From: rev@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Jesus Jones
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:25:27 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

halo@tamsun.tamu.edu (Dr. Strangelove) writes:

> Sorry if this post doesn't make any sense but our news poster died a few days
> ago while I was following up to the Jesus Jones thread and I don't remember
> everything that I said or was going to say.  Anyways...
> 
> There was a Jesus Jones discography included with the 10" vinyl of Who? Where
> Why? but I seemed to have misplaced it (the discography that is).  It's
> probably somewhere in my boxes of vinyls if anyone wants me to dig it up.

If its no trouble ... :-)

> I may have already replied about this but I can't remember.  The song Info
> Psycho is included on the UK CD single of Right Here, Right Now... it's prett
> good I guess.  There's also a version of Welcome Back Victoria mixed by DNA.
> It basically sounds the same but with an orchestra playing too.  The CD is
> labeled CD Food 30 if you wanna look for it.
> 
> I guess we'll have to wait 'til the end of January for Perverse... hopefully,
> there won't be any delays.
> 
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>  Sorry if my sigs offend anyone.  If so, lighten up!  It's just for fun!
> 

I'm waiting expectantly... Jesus Jones have a lot to live up to now.

rev.

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From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Rainmakers
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:24:54 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

abuot the rainmakers - as you undoubtedly know, they broke up
 a while back. i haven't heard anything about solo releases
 or anything like that...

i'm hoping that a greatest hits disc comes out.




- bob gaj
From: chappy@cis.ksu.edu (Douglas R Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NEW NIRVANA ON THE WAY
Date: 22 Dec 1992 03:55:39 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept of Computing & Information Sciences
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Originator: chappy@cis.ksu.edu


In article <5101.66.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp>, neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black)  writes:
|> Just heard from a friend that Steve Albini is engineering (he doesn't
|> produce) the next Nirvana release.  Has anyone else heard this?  If it's
|> true, it could well be a truly great album.
|>                                                                      

Actually it is not new.  It is a bunch of B-sides and previously
unrelesed stuff.  It is called Insectiside and has already been send
out to radio stations.

Doug R. Chapman
Assistant Music Director
KSDB FM
Kedzie Hall Rm104
Manhattan, KS  66506
-- 
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Assistant Music Director
KSDB FM
Kedzie Hall Rm104