HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: follow-up
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:16:09 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.


(edm)
/That's too bad.  Jesus taught that Christians should _not_ keep their faith
/a secret or hidden.  

Jesus also knew when he wasn't welcome.  Jesus also knew that there
was a time and a place for everything (Ecclesiastes).

Do you?


(edm)
/It sounds to me that if any Christian says _anything_ to
/you about what he or she believes that contradicts something you believe
/that you interpret it as having something shoved down your throat./

Are they shoving it down my throat?

If they do it on my time, yes.
If they do it after I have told them I don't want to hear it, yes.
If they interrupt a discussion on another subject, yes.

Unfortunately, airhead, you do NOT  have the unlimited right to 
have a captive audience.  I don't care what your religion says; I (and
the rest of us) do not exist just so that you can practice your religion
on us.  


(edm)
/And just to add another thought, Jesus "shoved" his teaching down the throats
/of the Pharisees and high priests because they were wrong in what they were
/teaching and misusing the temple of God.  

As I said, Jesus knew when he wasn't welcome.  
And, discussion of religious topics in the temple is quite appropriate.  
Discussion of religious topics with religious leaders is quite appropriate.

Do you think that Jesus went around the countryside, busting down doors
and butting into dinner conversations?  



(edm)
/He also dealt with anybody who would claim they "had the truth" and was trying
/to deceive folks with their teaching in the same way.  You can't claim that
/He was just a nice guy and offended nobody and therfore anybody that follows
/Him should do likewise.  

Tell you what:  as soon as you become Christ, knowing the hearts and minds
of all men, then you can act as he did.


(edm)
/We are called to share the good news that you can be
/reconciled to God through what he did for you and not keep our mouths shut.

Does anyone still doubt that Xtianity creates brainwashed stormtroopers?
From: neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Wake up! Listen to me. (NOT!)
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:30:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cadreor.1992Aug19.033007.16307
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc., Portland Operation

I think I figured out what the problem with this group is:

     Nobody thinks it's worth preserving against unwelcome disturbances
     such as this holier-than-thou hate garbage.

Is there some way that we as a group can discourage repeat-offenders like
this person?  A message to "postmaster@pdaxs.techbook.com" that their user is
not observing responsible Netiquette?  Saturation E-mail flaming?

Does anybody think it's worth it, or is it more fun to flame them right back
in the newsgroup?

This is first and last posting on the topic.

Enjoy,
Neil

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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:49:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.714203374
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Aug19.034158.16725@cadreor.cadre.com> neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke) writes:

>major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt) writes:
>>: Neil and Crystal:
>>: 
>>: We are all judged NOT by our intentions: we are judged objectively by our
>>: words in print & orally.

>>  Neil, Crystal and a Nun - orally.  I'm going out into the audience and 
>>  watch this!

>Would this be considered ``Sin and Corruption'' (SACk)?

>If so, I'm game!

>Neil :-)

>-- 
>Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
>"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."

'Tis much better than being gamey... :>

Actually, it's nun too fun unless Oral Roberts gets involved... :>

Crystal
  ;>
From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: goodbye all
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:27:13 GMT
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

sanelson@milton.u.washington.edu (S. A. Nelson) writes:
: 
: 	Hi. I'm a 21 year old, attractive female math student at the UW, 
: and I decided to read this group in the hopes of maybe finding cool people
: to spend time with. However, I have been saddened to discover that nearly
: everyone who posts does so with the sole intention of converting others
: and/or calling them intolerant if they happen to have an opinion. Well, if
: you were wondering "where are all the young women who might be reading this
: group," here's your answer...YOU'VE CHASED THEM ALL AWAY.

  No, wait!  Come back!  I have no opinions on anything.  I *LIKE* attractive
  female math students (UW accepted even).   I wouldn't try to convert you
  into anything.  

  (What's "S. A." stand for?  SturmAbtailung?)

  -----

  Seriously,  don't let the 1-2 jerks chase you away - learn how to set up
  a 'kill' file - read what you want - lurk if you wish - post and to hell
  with the dweebs.

  -----

  PS:  Do you like peanut butter?



   
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From: garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:56:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Aug14.235627.8019
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <crystal.713679082@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
 writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"sold out to Jesus"???
>>
>>You want a NUN?!?!?!
>>
>>Kinky...
>
>
>Just so long as you don't get into the habit :)

In the true sense of this news group, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
GOOD COME BACK!!!!!!!!!

see, that's not so tough is it?(ambassabore, R. Holloway)

have fun!!./gb
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Another Doers [sic] Profile of someone you (**Fs) should know about:

   0000        Vital Stats: SWM, 41, Professional, Computer Type, Seattle
 00    00
0|      |0     Measurements:  hair loss: under 3%, glasses: thick.
0||o||o||0
 |  ||  |      Favorite Hobbies: too many, some are: traveling, bicycling,
 |  ||  |                 birdwatching, the arts, antiques, chocolate, music
 \ \  / /                 (folks, blues, rock, classical, etc).
  \ -- /
   ----        Wishy-Washy Stuff:  honest, a member of NOW & NARAL,
                              considerate, and an overactive sense of humor.

What friends say:  "He makes the best chocolate cheesecake, so he's not all
         that bad for a 'mostly' vegetarian."

Politics:  Radical conservative liberal independent capitalist/socialist
         with leftover ideals from late 60s hippie days, in other words:
         wears Birkenstocks, but not religiously.

Past Achievements: ex-hippy, bicycled across US, drove 18 wheelers, cooked
         in a Chinese restaurant, worked/lived on a farm, wore Haggar slacks
         to work at Hanford, worked in Bellevue.

Greatest Achievment:  survived all past achievements intact...

Turn Ons:  watching sunsets/sunrises, smart independent women, and a flea
          market bargain.

Turn-Offs: Political Correctness, Republicans, prudes, too much makeup,
          and a lack of personal hygiene.

Pet Peeves:  none, but has a pet rock.

Last Book read:  The Yellow Pages.

Last Opera Seen:  Aida, here in Seattle.

Last Film Seen:  "the usual sex, violence and lack of plot."

Favorite Quote:  "A waist is a terrible thing to mind."

Goal in Life:  "having a funny, interesting Seattle **F reply to this ad..."

Favorite Scotch:  The green plaid roll of tape, holds good & peels off easy.



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From: monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Sin and Corrruption
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:32:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug19.223231.15709
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <crystal.714260035@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>In <1992Aug19.153418.10717@lclark.edu> garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich) writes:
>
>>In <1992Aug19.033550.16466@cadreor.cadre.com> neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Va
>>n Dyke) writes:
>
>>>monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan) writes:
>>>>>Exactly what is this SIN and CORRUPTION which is suppose to exist on this
>>>>>little piece of the net-world?
>>>>>Any suggestions?  What's your favorite sin and corruption?
>
>>>>There are so many to choose from.  You can earn bonus points for some of the
>>>>more advanced forms, if you do them in a McDonald's during lunch hour.
>
>>>>Neil
>
>>>--
>>>>Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
>>>>"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."
>
>>>Can you do Wendy's in MacDonalds? Or does that require Colonel Sanders
>>>as a chaperone?
>
>>Nope, BurgerKing has ruled that Col. Sanders (due to beastiality claims)can
>>no longer be considered a suitable chaperone, that duty has fallen to
>>Little Ceaser./gb
>
>
>Guards!! Caeser salad!!!
>

Lettuce alone!   Don't taco my salad!!
From: neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 13 Aug 92 07:21:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: cadreor.1992Aug13.072117.20849
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc., Portland Operation

keith@pdaxs.techbook.com (Keith) writes what sounds a bit weird:
> WANTED:  just for curiosity's sake, I would like to hear from you if you 
>are a young girl, age 19-20, who is sold out for Jesus.  I haven't seen 
>many out there in my own short twenty years of existance, and I would 
>like to hear from you if you really, truly love the Lord.  I'm not 
>exactly interested in a relationship, but it would at least be nice to 
>establish some sort of friendship.  Do you read?  Please do not respond 
>unless completely serious.  Write Keith through E-mail.

All intelligent, beautiful, young women who don't meet Keith's ``sold out for
Jesus'' requirement are encouraged to E-mail me.

It is only fair to warn you, however, that my heart belongs to Julia Roberts.

P.S., I wouldn't post this if I actually thought 20-year-old women read this
group.
      
:-)  Neil

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From: hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Crystal
Summary: You're retraction does not mitigate the damage you've done.
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:56:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Aug14.025637.2214
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <crystal.713756527@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>In <s5LgPB1w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
>
>
>>        I think you have some wires crossed Crystal.  You tell me that 
>>I should not "preach" my beliefs on the personal thread, but then you 
>>turn right around and do the same.  Don't say it's not preaching cause it 
>>is, it's just not the same as mine.  If I were to say the Abortion is 
>>great and that I encourage it, That would be preaching also, but since 
>>it's not against it nobody would fight me.  Thant is exactly what is 
>>happening here.  I only left a message that was personal to the one that 
>>was interested.  This Keith guy did the same.  Your scared.  Your scared 
>>of the truth.  I know you wont admit it, but their is something that your 
>>so scared of - you have to fight it until the end.  Don't you see what is 
>>happening to you.  Open your eyes and you'll see a little truth.  
>
>>---
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>>pdaxs gives free access to news & mail. (503) 644-8135 - 1200/2400, N81  
>>Send to info@techbook.com for more information.
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>
>"Preaching" is the FORCING of one's views on another, repeatedly attempting
>to drum something into someone that they don't care to listen to...
>
>Stating an OPINION is *NOT* preaching.
>
>I state my opinions. 
>Nowhere have I preached.
>
>Nowhere have I suggested that one not believe in what they believe in. I
>simply stated that I don't believe and I stated why with 2 simple quotations.s.
>That is not preaching.
>That is stating an opinion.
>
>Crystal

Crystal:

Then why do you ridicule someone else?  Why did you feel compelled to "poke
fun" at another?  If you didn't care for what he wrote, why not just put it
in you Kill file?  Your opinion is like assholes, everyone's got one, but
few really want to become intimately aware of it.

Warm regards,
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Sin and Corrruption
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:33:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.714260035
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Aug19.153418.10717@lclark.edu> garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich) writes:

>In <1992Aug19.033550.16466@cadreor.cadre.com> neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Va
>n Dyke) writes:

>>monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan) writes:
>>>>Exactly what is this SIN and CORRUPTION which is suppose to exist on this
>>>>little piece of the net-world?
>>>>Any suggestions?  What's your favorite sin and corruption?

>>>There are so many to choose from.  You can earn bonus points for some of the
>>>more advanced forms, if you do them in a McDonald's during lunch hour.

>>>Neil

>>--
>>>Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
>>>"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."

>>Can you do Wendy's in MacDonalds? Or does that require Colonel Sanders
>>as a chaperone?

>Nope, BurgerKing has ruled that Col. Sanders (due to beastiality claims)can
>no longer be considered a suitable chaperone, that duty has fallen to
>Little Ceaser./gb


Guards!! Caeser salad!!!
From: neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Sin and Corrruption
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:35:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: cadreor.1992Aug19.033550.16466
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc., Portland Operation

monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan) writes:
>Exactly what is this SIN and CORRUPTION which is suppose to exist on this
>little piece of the net-world?
>Any suggestions?  What's your favorite sin and corruption?

There are so many to choose from.  You can earn bonus points for some of the
more advanced forms, if you do them in a McDonald's during lunch hour.

Neil

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From: dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Staying and leaving
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:49:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Aug19.204942.12630
Organization: Stellar Enterprises

THIS IS A MESSAGE wishing for all the people who are sick of reading the
bible thumping batter-crap on this group and are think of leaving: STAY!!!

The bible thumpoing ignoramouses have lost a crucial part of their lives to
their misfounded believes. They will never experience some of the wonders
which life is all about. So, take pity on these poor pitiful souls. AND
IGNORE THEM... its not so hard. When you start reading a messgae and it
mentions god or some other semi farcical entity; just bloody go on.

The other idea if they annoy you too much is to send them by email - a
batch of hundreds of uucoded files. This basically takes care of their
interest. :-)

Anyways, HI! Any women in Eugene??? Portland?? Oregon? PNW??????

Having just become recently single I have a question: When a woman who is
fairly happy with everything thats going on after two weeks of no
comunication say later: Humm, what happened??? I couldn't call cause she
didn't have a phone... And she was never there when I droped flowers or
notes by...

Oh well... Back to single life. I think I'll go strangle my happily
together friends. :-)
_______________________________________________________________
Dann Cutter  Stellar Enterprises* /
dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu
From: usenet@CS.ORST.EDU
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Sin and corruption
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:27:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug22.232747.5925
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Oregon State University
             Where can I get some?

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
From: pnwp-454@onion.rain.com
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Subject: Look ! A Real Personal Post !
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:15:30 GMT
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     Anyway...! I thought it might be a good idea to make a post that actually
reflects the original intent of this group ! So...

     I'm a single white male, 28 years old, tall, hwp, very easygoing and
openminded, looking for a woman of similar age and interested in friendship,
maybe more if we take the time to get to know eachother. My hobbies are, but
not limited to skiing, hiking, backpacking, reading (if I ever get the time!)
racquetball, and other stuff that I can't remember offhand. Oh yeah, I have
a short beard, brown hair, and live in the Seattle vicinity. If you'd like
to talk, and actually use this newsgroup for what it was originally meant
for (!) then send me mail ! I'd appreciate it. Thanks.



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From: pnwp-432@onion.rain.com
Subject: Male Looking for a DEcent Female
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	I am 43 yrs. old and would like to meet some intellegent lady through
	this BB. I read lot of crap on thinews-letter. I am not sure if
	any of the good women will really stay on this BB and go through the
	Ads. It seems that this news-letter has been infested with people who
	who have been raised with dogmas & dogs. I am not angry but a bit]
	disaapointed that the educated people has no sense of what they are
	doing. If you are religious, go to church. If you believe in God,
	cultivate some good qualities. Is this place to undermine and insult
	others. Become a priest or a nun, if you want to wrok out your faith.
	Can't you see that you are just following your emotional conditionings.
	It has nothing to do with ANY God.
	
	Back to the point. If you are a female in 30s. single or divorced,
	and believe that caste, creed, religion & race is not important to
	you ( In other words, if you have trancended this artificial barriers)
	I would like to talk to you. I play chess. tennis and prepare good
	curries. I am also good in other smaller persuits of life that may
	be very important for you ( Do I know that 

	If you are looking for an aaadventure in a cross-cultural & exciting
	ethnic experience, you may find yourself in the company of a man
	who thinks the way you feel. Is it possible. Yes it is. All you have
	to do is tke the 2nd. step. I have already taken the first.
	Hence I will surely meet you. Or it will be waiting for GODOTT....


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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:11:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.713679082
Organization: University of Washington

In <1aiDPB2w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> keith@pdaxs.techbook.com (Keith) writes:


> WANTED:  just for curiosity's sake, I would like to hear from you if you 
>are a young girl, age 19-20, who is sold out for Jesus.  I haven't seen 
>many out there in my own short twenty years of existance, and I would 
>like to hear from you if you really, truly love the Lord.  I'm not 
>exactly interested in a relationship, but it would at least be nice to 
>establish some sort of friendship.  Do you read?  Please do not respond 
>unless completely serious.  Write Keith through E-mail.

>---
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"sold out to Jesus"???

You want a NUN?!?!?!

Kinky...
From: jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: The Bible thumpers?
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:14:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdaxs.8L7RPB1w165w
Organization: Portland Public Access sponsored by TECHbooks Bookstore


        Why don't you just chill out.  The "Bible thumpers" were only on 
a few times.  I don't recall them ever thumping anyone.  I don't consider 
myself a Bible thumper, cause I only left a Christian message to someone 
that may be interested in answering.  I never brought the Bible into it.  
I think that's what I should have done though...
        You guys are so scared... I'm not sure of what but you are scared 
of something to continue to go on and on about Christianity.  

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