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From: vaf@Valinor.Stanford.EDU (Vince Fuller)
Subject: Re: Bringing a Hard Drive through X-Ray
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:10:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.163306.15342@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole) writes:
|> I will be traveling on Northwest from Minneapolis to Boston this week with my
|> 105mb Hard Drive in my carry-on baggage, I will also have a modem.  I am not worried about the X-Ray's harming it, but I am worred about having MSP security
|> believing me that it is a hard drive anbd not a bomb.   I will bring the
|> power cord to show them that it works, but I will NOT have a computer (Macintosh) with me to actually show them.  Any suggestions?

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just last month I bought a disk drive here
in California and hand-delivered it to someone in the Virgin Islands. I also had
to stop in Washington, D.C. en route, so me and the disk (and my Sharp Wizard
pocket "organizer") went through security at SFO, MSP, DCA, and JFK. Not knowing
whether the drive (or the Wizard) appreciate either the X-ray machine or the
metal detector, I handed it to the security people at each point for manual
inspection. No problems in any of the airports, though a couple of the security
people asked what the disk was (and had me turn-on the Wizard). What surprised
me about this trip was that at at least one of the security stops, the guy didn't
even open the box I was carrying - I just handed it to him, walked through the
metal detector, and got it back. That's kind of scary, considering that I could
have been carrying anything...

	--Vince
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From: dmarr@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Deborah T. Marr)
Subject: RT Detroit-San Francisco for sale
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: umich
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:01:15 GMT


Hi,

I have one RT ticket for Detroit to SF on 12/20, returning on 12/29
on Northwest Airlines.  I bought the ticket for $310 during the low 
price sales, asking for $310 or best (reasonable) offer (the current 
14 day in advance price is ~$520).  The ticket is "non-changeable, 
non-refundable".  The name on the ticket is female (does anyone know 
if they really care?).

Please reply either to this e-mail address (dmarr@eecs.umich.edu)
or call:  313-763-4618.

-Debbie

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From: gei058@cck.coventry.ac.uk (/\/\anc)
Subject: Re: Flights to Iceland from UK
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:38:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.134636.1867@cs.hw.ac.uk> brianm@cara.ma.hw.ac.uk (Brian Moretta) writes:
>Can anyone give me info on the above. A friend told me that at some
>point over the summer there are really cheap deals (something to do
>with full planes to the UK returning empty) at about half the normal
>price. He can't remember any details and any travel agents that I 
>have asked know nothing. Does anyone out there have more details ??
>Even just the airline would be helpful.
>
>Thanks in anticipation.
>
>Brian Moretta 
>brianm@cara.ma.hw.ac.uk
>
>Dept Actuarial Maths
>Heriot-Watt University
>Edinburgh

The only airline that flies from the UK to Iceland is, as far as I know,
Icelandair and they go twice weekly direct to Keflavik out of GLA with 734 
and once weekly via the Faero (sp) Islands with a F50 (!). They also go
more regularly out of LHR but I dont know what days or times. But all these
LHR flights use 734's into Keflavik.

Hope this may help some

Alan

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From: fineberg@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: Fares when death in family
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:56:15 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov

In article <724344273snx@tixel.mv.com>, jarnold@tixel.mv.com (Jon Arnold) writes:
|> My experience in this area (only once, thank goodness, less than a year
|> ago with USAir) is that they will sell you the "lowest available ticket"
|> for your route of travel, waiving advance purchase restrictions, and also
|> waiving capacity controls and blackout dates.  For example:
|> 
|> Normal fare:  $1000
|>   With 7 day advance purchase:   $800
|>   With 7 day advance purchase and Sat night stay:  $600
|> 
|> You can purchase the ticket for $600.  With USAir, they also take the name
|> of the deceased and the name of the funeral home for verification.  (Which
|> begs the question: if you are travelling to East Overshoe, what is to
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> prevent one from calling a funeral home in East Overshoe and find out the
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> name of whoever is there this week?  Now I'm not suggesting....)
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Jon Arnold                        Phone: W: 603-883-1233
|> Nashua, New Hampshire             Fax:   W: 603-883-7350
|>                                          H: 603-883-6371
|> 
|>       "If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes."
My guess is they don't even check.  As with mos things, if your story is
consistant, and they don't have too many abuses, they won't bother checking.
Of course, if everyone did this, they would probably stop letting people
use it legitimately before they would start checking everyone's story.

Sam
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From: gl1@cec1.wustl.edu (Greg Lyon)
Subject: Re: UAL #918 from IAD to LHR Question
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:33:14 GMT

barrk@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Keith Barr) writes:
>Hey there everyone,
>     I am traveling on UAL fl. 918 from IAD to LHR in February, and I was
>wondering what type of equipment is used on that flight.  OAG says 747,
>and UAL says the same.  Has anyone been on that flight, and noticed if it
>was a -200, or a -400?  The same question applies to flight 919 from LHR
>to IAD.  I assume that since no specific type is mentionoed for either it
>means that I could have a 747-200 or -400...is this a correct assumption?

If the designation in OAG is "747" then the plane is either a 747-100 or
a 747-200.

747-400s are designated by the equipment code "744".

Greg

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From: hohndel@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Dirk Hohndel)
Subject: Prices DFW->SFO and LAX<->SFO
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:06:35 GMT


Hello !

I'm planning to go to the states next year  and being a German I'm not used
to American distances. Flying seems to be the only useful way to travel
there. Now my question :

Could someone _please_ mail me approximate prices for

1.  one way Dallas Fort Worth (DFW) -> San Francisco (SFO)

2.  round ticket San Francisco (or Sacramento) <-> Los Angeles (LAX)

Please someone answer, so I can start to put by money :-)

Thanks in advance

		Dirk

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From: gl1@cec2.wustl.edu (Greg Lyon)
Subject: Re: DELTA TA award tickets....INTERCHANGABLE?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:43:01 GMT

gutnick@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Gutnick) writes:
>
>I have an opportunity to buy a DELTA TA award ticket to Israel from SFO at
>an excellent price.  I called DELTA and they said that I can use the ticket
>provided the person who originally got it accompanies me on some leg of 
>the journey. The guy who wants to sell me the voucher says that this is
>not inforced.  
>
>How does this work?  How is voucher turned into ticket?  Am I liable to 
>find myself with a ticket I cannot use?

  First Question: Would the ticket be in your name?  If not, DON'T even
THINK OF BUYING IT !!!  Airlines check the name on the ticket with that of
the passport and if they don't match, you won't get on the plane.

  Secondly.  If there is a rule such as the one you mentioned.  If may not
be enforced, but there is always a chance that it might be.  So, unless
you are willing to take a least a slight bit of risk, don't do it.  Others
on the net will probably have more information as to whether the rules is
actually enforced.

Greg

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From: jarnold@tixel.mv.com (Jon Arnold)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Fares when death in family
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:44:33 GMT
Organization: 
Reply-To: jarnold@tixel.mv.com

My experience in this area (only once, thank goodness, less than a year
ago with USAir) is that they will sell you the "lowest available ticket"
for your route of travel, waiving advance purchase restrictions, and also
waiving capacity controls and blackout dates.  For example:

Normal fare:  $1000
  With 7 day advance purchase:   $800
  With 7 day advance purchase and Sat night stay:  $600

You can purchase the ticket for $600.  With USAir, they also take the name
of the deceased and the name of the funeral home for verification.  (Which
begs the question: if you are travelling to East Overshoe, what is to
prevent one from calling a funeral home in East Overshoe and find out the
name of whoever is there this week?  Now I'm not suggesting....)

Jon Arnold                        Phone: W: 603-883-1233
Nashua, New Hampshire             Fax:   W: 603-883-7350
                                         H: 603-883-6371

      "If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes."

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From: "reg lafontaine" <reg.lafontaine@canrem.com>
Subject: ual #918 from iad to
Reply-To: "reg lafontaine" <reg.lafontaine@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:26:12 EST


KS>When I was planning my trip to Asia, I absolutely had to travel on a 747-400.
KS>None of Northwest's printed schedules indicated that a 744 was being used
KS>from JFK-NRT.  But when I called them up, their computer insisted that it
KS>was a 744.  Even the last schedule book didnt have it as a 744.  But

Not being sarcastic, but WHY did it HAVE to be a 747-400?  Is it a 
more comfortable plane?  Better seat pitch?  Safer?

Thank you for the enlightenment.
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From: liao@cs.purdue.edu (Qingyi Liao)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: ticket
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:50:19 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ector.cs.purdue.edu

I have an one way air ticket from Seattle, Washington to Chicago, IL for sale.
Time Dec. 29 or any later time. Price:100$ OBO. Call or send e-mail if interested.
(317)-743-6889
(206)364-1927
(206)-667-4402
Email:liao@ector.cs.purdue.edu
From: lhep_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Leonidas Hepis)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: online airlines database?
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:23:20 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Can I search the database which travel agents use to find if there are
any tickets available on any airlines on a particular date?  Would I
be able to make a reservation directly?  Could I connect to the database
through Internet?

-leo

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From: jdavis@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Jim Davis)
Subject: Re: tickets wanted
Organization: DHL Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:18:58 GMT

I need 2 RT tickets from San Francisco area to Mazatlan toward the end of    
February.  Also looking for a couple of RT tix to Orlando in May.
From: mtp@oregon.uoregon.edu (Matthias Pohl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Fares when death in family
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Date: 15 Dec 1992 17:47:24 GMT
Organization: Dep. of Chemistry
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: finke0.uoregon.edu


I had a sudden death in my family (uncle) last June and needed to make
emergency arrangements to get from Eugene, OR, USA to Frankfurt, Germany
ASAP. Neither Continental, nor American was willing to give any
bereavement. United finally sold me a ticket for a flight leaving the
*next* day and gave me a 300 $ bereavement discount on the full-economy
fare. 

/Matthias
From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Aircraft Type (was Re: UAL #918 from IAD to LHR Question)
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:24:11
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: solarium.aero.org
In-reply-to: staggers@cup.hp.com's message of Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:27:35 GMT



staggers@cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers) said:
> When I was planning my trip to Asia, I absolutely had to travel on a 747-400.
> None of Northwest's printed schedules indicated that a 744 was being used
> from JFK-NRT.  But when I called them up, their computer insisted that it
> was a 744.  Even the last schedule book didnt have it as a 744.  But
> 2 weeks before I went, I called up NW and asked.  They said it was still a
> 747-400 and that unless it breaks down, it will still be a 747-400 when I
> was scheduled to leave.  In the end, it was a 747-400.

Something to keep in mind is that specific flights do not always have
the same aircraft type on them year round.  There's a certain flight I
take from Detroit to Los Angeles about once a month, and in the summer
months the flight has an A320 on it; in the fall and winter, a DC-10.
Printed schedules only reflect what aircraft type the carrier is
currently using on the flight (The current NW schedule has the JFK-NRT
flight listed as a 747-400, for example).

So I agree with Ken: call the airline if it makes a big difference.

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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 23:26:33 MST
From: <KHDLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Fares when death in family


I was wondering if anyone ever had any dealings with airlines and their
policy for ticket prices when there is a death in the immediate family.
My father passed away last year and for myself and my daughter to fly
from NY to AZ, cost me $1200. Of course American Airlines felt that their
price was fair, before their '50%' discount, each ticket would have been
$2400, so with a 50% discount, it cut the cost for myself and 3 year old
daughter to $1200. I wrote to American Airlines telling them I felt the
price was unfair but they stood their ground. What really got to me
was that I had purchased tickets to visit my Dad 2, and was scheduled
to come out to see him and had paid $338RT per ticket..quite a markup
if you ask me.

Thanks....
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: de11@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Epstein)
Subject: New York --> SFO one way for sale
Reply-To: de11@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Epstein)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: rec.travel.air, rec.travel.marketplace
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:32:52 GMT

Is anyone interested in flying one way from New York to San Francisco
around New Year's? I have half of a coupon I can't use -- male name.

If interested, please respond to this account.  Price negotiable.

David Epstein
de11@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
From: suri@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Airfares to Australia in March 93
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:59:58 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Originator: suri@biz.ecs.umass.edu

Howdy,
need info. on ballpark prices on airfares between baltimore <-->
melbourne(australia) going in ealy march. the fares i've been
quoted are in the $1200 range - can someone comment on this number
as a resonable fare....
thanks,

neeraj
From: tlevitan@igc.apc.org (Thomas Levitan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Credit card Freq. Flier
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:36:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Dec15.111550.1@vms.ocom.okst:1972291452:cdp:1644500015:000:349
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tlevitan    Dec 18 22:36:00 1992


David
I do it right now, using my Northwest Visa (with Bank One).  I charge
about $6000 twice a year and then when my loan check comes in, get
the cash.  So far, the Visa card has offered 1500 mile bonuses for
charging at least $2500 in the months when tuition has been payable.
Not bad.  It got me preferred this year, with very little flying.
Tom
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: todd@ai07.elcom.nitech.ac.jp (Todd Law)
Subject: Re: Flight from DEN to Hong Kong
Reply-To: todd@juno.elcom.nitech.ac.jp
Organization: Nagoya Institute of Technology, Nagoya ,Japan.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:19:42 GMT


In article <1992Dec9.180727.26617@den.mmc.com> heck@hercules.den.mmc.com (Rex Heck) writes:

>I am trying to fly from Denver to Hong Kong on Dec 18. I have been trying
>since Nov 1 to get a reservation. Every place I try is booked. Even first
>class. I even tried Dec 14, 15, 16 and 17. Are flights to Asia really 
>departing full? I am thinking of flying to SFO and standing by at the gate.
>Has anyone had experience flying stand by on international flights?

There is massive Christmas vacation migration at about that time,
so it is understandably full.  I got my ticket to come home from
Japan back in late August.

Forget where I heard it, but there is no such thing as standby on
international flights (but there are probably exceptions within
Canada-US or within Europe).  The problem is likely baggage, which
has to be checked through customs by you and you only, and flights
tend to be less frequent on these transpacific routes.  Standby
travellers tend to get on late and their bags often only make it
on the next flight.  You can imagine landing in a foreign country, 
having to wait a day or two for your bags, going back and forth 
to the airport to collect baggage, and then take it through customs.
I would bet that the airlines decided that it is more hassle than
it's worth.


Todd Law

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From: news@parc.xerox.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: A new newsgroup
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:21:59 GMT
Reply-To: yampol
Organization: Xerox Palo Alto Research Center
Nf-ID: #1:  Wouldn't it be nice to have a new newsgroup called something like
Nf-From:      rec.travel.air.announce?  The purpose would be for users to place


#2:  I support this idea...  It is very beneficial to everyone...

#3:  I would have to disagree.  Many people would consider that things are 
an

Here we go again...   I can't count how many of my favorite groups have 
gotten into flame wars (not that any of the messages so far have been 
flames) about splitting a group this way or that.  Ultimately, they all 
split (and a few have even re-joined).  My only observation about splits 
is that they are inconvenient for everyone in the end -- more groups to 
read, longer names to type, longer group lists to scan, etc., etc., etc.  
Witness the recent change from zippy "rec.music.synth" to the clunky 
"rec.music.makers.synth".  I say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  Its 
bad enough having r.t.a and r.t.a.market.

I propose a new newsgroup 
"alt.newsgroup.splits.annoying.annoying.annoying" to which all messages 
about proposed newsgroup splits and all complaints (like this one) should 
be posted!

I hereby register a vote against.

--Todd


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From: "reg lafontaine" <reg.lafontaine@canrem.com>
Subject: need info on trips to par
Reply-To: "reg lafontaine" <reg.lafontaine@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:26:12 EST

HP>    Subject: Need info on trips to Paris, France in 1993

HP>2.   Any suggestions on options to expensive hotels, such as romantic bed
HP>and breakfasts in or around Paris? Anyone have contacts over there in terms of
HP>possible lodging swaps (I live in the North Carolina mountains - could trade
HP>vacation places).

As you probably know, Paris is organized by "Arrondissement" from 1st to 
20th.  1st is in the centre of the city and the other districts go in a
clockwise snail shell fashion from 1st.  Lodging varies in price from
what district you are in (slightly).  Some districts are very fashionable
others are pretty bad.
Sorry, don't know about B&B's in Paris.  Usually if you stay outside of
the ring road, where the districts are no longer numbered, you will pay
a lot less for accomodation.  The subway and train system is so fantastic
that it is not a great hardship to be out of the "downtown" area.

HP>3.   What are Paris MUST SEES?  She has been there once before, but only
HP>for a VERY quick weekend.
I would very much recommend the Hachette Guide to France.  It is 
excellent and has hints on what to do depending on how much time you
have e.g. a 2 day visit, 3 day visit, and 7-day visit.

HP>4.   Any other hints or suggestions anyone may have about creating a
HP>romantic sojourn over there would be greatly appreciated.
Make sure you take a train out to Versailles, about 40 minutes away.
Take at least a full day, to wander through the palace and the gardens.
Also take an evening "bateau mouche" trip on the Seine.  (Don't take
dinner - food not so good.)
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From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Which airlines for Frequent Flier Program ??
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:27:24
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: usa
	<1992Dec14.215456.2950@opencon.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: solarium.aero.org
In-reply-to: giand@opencon.com's message of Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:54:56 GMT

>>vemuri@informix.com (Sudhakar Vemuri) wrote: 
>>->I am likely to travel a lot in continental US and I would like to choose an
>>->airlines that honours my trip to India also into their FF program.

Northwest allows U.S. residents to accumulate mileage for KLM flights.

Which raises a question I've been meaning to ask: does it take much 
longer to fly to India through Europe (fly east from the U.S.) as opposed
to flying to India through Asia (fly west from the U.S.) ??

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