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From: sussman@linus.mitre.org (Stephen H. Sussman)
Subject: Re: Genesis
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:22:40 GMT

All Genesis albums seem to grow on people.  I can't think of a single
Genesis album I liked the first time I heard it.  In the case of Wind
and Wuthering I though it was downright awful and continued to feel
that way for years before re-discovering it this summer.

What do you Genesis fans other there think was the album where Steve
Hackett was at his best.  I think Wind and Wuthering shows his
influence more than most other albums, but maybe Selling England By
The Pound was better performance wise.  What do you guys think?

Steve
From: jeanthea@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Jeantheau)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: e: What are best albums of Genesis?
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:04:27 GMT
Reply-To: jeanthea@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Jeantheau)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
Cc:  jeanthea@oasys.dt.navy.mil


>>|> In terms of their progressive period, what albums are considered Genesis'
>>|> best works?  Anything with Gabriel?
>>|>

Clearly there is a lot of "diff'rent strokes" when it comes to Genesis.
If you're collecting info to decide what to get, I'll recommend two
to get started with.

1) "A Trick of The Tail" -- this is mid-period Genesis (post-Gabriel,
pre-drum-machine).  It's one of my favorites, and while it's not at 
the top of everyone's list, it is usually recognized as an excellent 
progressive Genesis album.

2) "Selling England By The Pound" -- "early" Genesis.  Very progressive
but not as bizarre as "Lamb Lies Down On Broadway."


These are not necessarily my two favorites, but I think they would be the
most accessible to a new progressive-Genesis listener.  I very much
like Genesis songs that are melodic, instrumentally progessive, and
lyrically intriguing.  The following Genesis albums, I think, all fit
that mold:

A Trick Of the Tail
Selling England By the Pound
And Then There Were Three...
Wind and Wuthering
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Nursery Cryme
Foxtrot
Tresspass

Other albums have some good songs but are less consistent.


Concerning Genesis albums that "grow on you"...  Definitely "And Then
There Were Three..."  Until about 4 years ago I thought this album was
ho-hum.  Then the melodies and lyrics began wrapping their tendrils
around my brain....



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"Ther fairest cries, 'We all have loved you, Rael.'"  -- "The Lamia"
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine)
Subject: Re: Genesis
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:12:55 GMT

In article <352P02nT1bN=01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com  
(  179  Peter Thelen) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.152240.3766@linus.mitre.org>  
sussman@linus.mitre.org (Stephen H. Sussman) writes:
> >
> >What do you Genesis fans other there think was the album where Steve
> >Hackett was at his best.  I think Wind and Wuthering shows his
> >influence more than most other albums, but maybe Selling England By
> >The Pound was better performance wise.  What do you guys think?
> >
> >Steve
> 
> I agree with you 100%.
> 
Ditto. Hackett's playing on Get 'em out by Friday also comes to mind.
---
Roy SeGuine  NeXT Cyberspace Architech 
*many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased* Dan12:4
	  	
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: orpheus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Owen Duncan Smith)
Subject: Re: e: What are best albums of Genesis?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:51:31 GMT

>> >>> >> > >> >But me... I'm just a lawn mower
>> >>> >> > >> I can tell by the way you walk.
>> >>> >> > >It must be a draw...  there's no one left alive.
>> >>> >> > So the Blackcap Barons toss a coin to settle the score.
>> >>> >> The Pied Piper takes his children underground
>> >>> >Mild mannered supermen are held by kryptonite
>> >>> And the foolish virgins giggle with their bodies' glowing bright
>> >>Amongst the weeds and slimey waters
>> >we're gonna make it right - tonight, tonight, tonight   oh, oh
>> And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll
>See me stretch for God's elastic acre

A flower?!?


Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: loj@cae.wisc.edu (Lo Jeffrey)
Subject: Re: the worst genesis song
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:04:11 CDT

One particularly hideous song comes to mind - In Too Deep.  Phil Collins
love mush at its worst.  As far as I'm concerned, he would do well to go
through another painful divorce.  His first two solo albums were full of great
hate songs directed towards his ex-wife.  He hasn't been the same since
getting happily married and Genesis has suffered too.

Jeff Lo
loj@cae.wisc.edu
From: willic6@rs6122.ecs.rpi.edu (Charles Williams)
Subject: Navy SEAL's
Keywords: Navy
Reply-To: willic6@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:53:35 GMT

Does anyone know of any literature around on the Navy SEAL's role in Desert Storm
? Or could you direct me to books about the Navy SEAL's in general.

Thanks,
.


Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
From: bks@alfa.berkeley.edu (Bradley K. Sherman)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Iraq, Uraq, Heraqs
Date: 28 Jul 1992 20:33:12 GMT
Organization: Deja Vu, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alfa.berkeley.edu


There you go again Mr. President.  Where is the outcry from Kuwait,
Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Syria?  The only saber rattling is coming
from the White House.   Why can't the Saudi's or the Kuwaitis stick
it to Saddam (after getting approval from the Security Council, of
course).  Aren't they the ones most at risk from SH?

Isn't this the same Iraq, population less than that of New York City,
weapons of mass destruction destroyed by thousands of allied bombing
raids and subsequent on-site inspection and removal.  An Iraq which
has been under embargo for two years.  An Iraq with internal enemies
in both the North and the South and external enemies on three or
four borders.  An Iraq whose Air Force is currently vacationing
in Iran.

There are teams of spies on the ground in Iraq inspecting government
buildings and installations.  Non-Iraqi troops hold positions inside
the country and have for over a year.  Sorry, George, but the USA
is not needed to apply pressure to Saddam.   Even Luxembourg could
carry out this mission.  Take another Halcion or deal with the
real threats to U.S. security: poverty and ignorance.
----------------
    --Brad Sherman (bks@alfa.berkeley.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Americans just love a good parade
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:16:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Jul29.164515.28742@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

assorted silliness deleted...

> ust as the military suffocated Soviet communism (supporting
> aa massive army), so will the US suffocate under it's weight.

  Umm, the military budget is already planned to be cut by 1/4 or 1/3.
Complain about Congress, not the Pres.  They keep funding things the
Pentagon wants cut (like the Osprey).
 
> Saddam has never, nor will be a threat to any American in the US.
> Our President and his irrational-big-lie-propaganda-imperialism
> iis more of a threat to us.

  I think holding a major % of the worlds's oil reserves is pretty threatening.
The Saudis and Kuwaiti's buy limos, provide education for free, and generally
party around.  Saddam has this nasty habit of buying tanks and then using
them for offensive purposes. (Offensive = invading other countries)  Unless
you consider Kuwait a major military power...

  In case you haven't noticed, that's a pretty important area over there.  What
happens there can affect the US a LOT.  Particulary if it involves Isreal.
And if you think a major threat to Isreal would not put Americans into harms
way you're incredibly naive--but that's what comes from an isolationist,
America Is Evil mindset.

  Or do you require someone to have snow-white motives to qualify them as a 
valid do-gooder?

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
Subject: Re: Rerun Season is here
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:53:38 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber) writes:


>George 'I'll-kill-a-bunch-of-nigger-Arabs-just-to-get-reelected' Bush
>is really not all that innovative. He and his advisors know damn
>well that Gilligan Island reruns have almost as good a market share
>as the original series. So why not give the Americans another rerun!
>The polls are going up already with the mere thought of killing
>Arabs. Ego is all that is seems the Americans need for a reason to kill.

Margaret Thatcher pulled the same stunt in the UK in 1982.
Conservative Party were at rock bottom, all the polls indicated a massive
loss for the Conservatives with unemployment sky rocketing and the economy
in a shambles. Then like manna from heaven, in stepped Gen Galtieri to take
over the Falklands and the aftermath was the Conservatives winning a landslide
with much emphasis on the Falklands war and flag waving.

Dave
--
From: aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
Subject: Rerun Season is here
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:12:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


George 'I'll-kill-a-bunch-of-nigger-Arabs-just-to-get-reelected' Bush
is really not all that innovative. He and his advisors know damn
well that Gilligan Island reruns have almost as good a market share
as the original series. So why not give the Americans another rerun!
The polls are going up already with the mere thought of killing
Arabs. Ego is all that is seems the Americans need for a reason to kill.


It's really sad since most Americans think the 'American Dream' team
is really competitive by beating third rate yoyo's from around the
world at the Olympics (I had to get that dig in).

For you 'I don't need no stinkin reason to kill, cause I'm American
patriot all the way, love it or leave it, and it's just you LIBERAL
unpatriotic commies fags who are against war' people - you are stupider
than you or I realize and it scares me that you are so easily
manipulated over and over by the same propaganda.
From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
Subject: Re: Americans just love a good parade
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:59:36 GMT
Organization: FOA, Linkoping, Sweden

aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber) writes:


>We have the largest armament machine in the world - when was the last time

No, you dont't. (Sorry to destroy your illusions :->) The CIS has a far bigger
armament industry. Ok, so it's in disarray right now but it's still bigger.



>>semper fi,
>Hiel to you too
--
Erik Svensson			Research Officer
Guided Weapons Division		National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
Stockholm			Sweden

net.address: 	eriks@fenix.lin.foa.se

"I've got LOT's of common sense. I just choose to ignore it." -- Calvin
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
From: aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber)
Subject: Americans just love a good parade
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:45:15 GMT


Let's face it, most Americans are IN LOVE with Militerism.
We like the parades, the uniforms, guns, flag waving etc..
it all amounts to very little except self masturbation
of our 'greatness' as an Empire..er Republic.


The sad part is that we've stopped fighting over ideology.
We fought the Germans and Japanese for 'Freedom'. The
Vietnames because they were 'communists'. But now, there
aare few ideals we fight for (perhaps we've lost many).


We fight for economic reasons - if we need oil -
no problem, we'll kill to get it (any we wonder why
the crime rate is skyrocketted).


ust as the military suffocated Soviet communism (supporting
aa massive army), so will the US suffocate under it's weight.
Saddam has never, nor will be a threat to any American in the US.
Our President and his irrational-big-lie-propaganda-imperialism
iis more of a threat to us.
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
From: aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber)
Subject: Re: Americans just love a good parade
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:23:27 GMT


Jammer Jim Miller replies:

>  I think holding a major % of the worlds's oil reserves is pretty threatening.


First of all the Iraqis don't hold a major % of the world's oil. The Saudis
do - should we bomb them back to the bronze age too - if they 'get out of
line'? The Russians have a lot of oil (the most) should we invade now?

>The Saudis and Kuwaiti's buy limos, provide education for free, and generally
>party around.  Saddam has this nasty habit of buying tanks and then using
>them for offensive purposes. (Offensive = invading other countries)  Unless
>you consider Kuwait a major military power...

We have the largest armament machine in the world - when was the last time
we 'defended' our shores? The whole military is based on offense! It's ok
for us because we're the good guys right? By the way, I thought the Kuwaitis
are our good buddy allies - I thought you'd adore them.

> In case you haven't noticed, that's a pretty important area over there.  What
>happens there can affect the US a LOT.  Particulary if it involves Isreal.
>And if you think a major threat to Isreal would not put Americans into harms
>way you're incredibly naive--but that's what comes from an isolationist,
>America Is Evil mindset.

solationist? America is Evil? Where'd you get that from?
Israel is just an allie - no more - no less. We should not
risk any more/less than protecting any other allie. Israel thumbs their
nose at us and we thank them by giving more welfare to them.

>  Or do you require someone to have snow-white motives to qualify them as a
>valid do-gooder?

I like to think that US motives should be driven by ideals, not parochial,
shortsighted, business interests.

>semper fi,
Hiel to you too
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Rerun Season is here
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:13:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.121221.6444@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber) writes:

	Oh dear, an Americanophobe, forced to live in Cleveland too.
	I should ignore this one.  A rational argument isn't going
	to be forthcoming.

	Alec.

>
>George 'I'll-kill-a-bunch-of-nigger-Arabs-just-to-get-reelected' Bush
>is really not all that innovative. He and his advisors know damn
>well that Gilligan Island reruns have almost as good a market share
>as the original series. So why not give the Americans another rerun!
>The polls are going up already with the mere thought of killing
>Arabs. Ego is all that is seems the Americans need for a reason to kill.
>
>
>It's really sad since most Americans think the 'American Dream' team
>is really competitive by beating third rate yoyo's from around the
>world at the Olympics (I had to get that dig in).
>
>For you 'I don't need no stinkin reason to kill, cause I'm American
>patriot all the way, love it or leave it, and it's just you LIBERAL
>unpatriotic commies fags who are against war' people - you are stupider
>than you or I realize and it scares me that you are so easily
>manipulated over and over by the same propaganda.


Newsgroups: alt.bacchus
From: ascmc2@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: A Bacchanalian church?
Organization: University of Alaska
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:59:57 GMT

In article <144q9mINNdo0@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) writes:
> 
> At the itersection of I-680 and I-80 between Concord and Fairfield there is
> a warehouse-looking building, and on the side is painted a sign.
> 
>     "The Vineyard
>     Come Enjoy Spirit-Filled Worship."
> 
> -- 
> haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
> haynes@cats.bitnet
> 
> "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
>         Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

sounds interesting send some more info.
From: amstan@netcom.com (Andy Stankosky)
Newsgroups: alt.bacchus
Subject: Re: A Bacchanalian church?
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:29:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

The following conversation occurred in a post office while I was
wearing a T-shirt which said "Grand Cru Vineyard".

She:  Grand Cru -- is that around here?
I:    No, it's north of San Francisco, in the wine country.
She:  Oh.  So it's a vineyard ... with grapes.
I:    ... um, yes ...
She:  My church is called The Vineyard.  I thought this might be
      a branch I had not heard of.
From: cgirard@neumann.une.edu.au (The Blade of Malchrntyne)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: I'll be back
Keywords: ditto
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:15:19 GMT


	Well, I may not have said it before I left, but since I am now
back, I will just say it now insted of then.

	I'll be back.


	There, I've said it, so now I had better take some notice of it.

	Maybe.....

	Ob.stupid.statement:  Beware of quantum ducks....quark, quark!

 The Blade of Malchrntyne (CJ)| There comes a time when the jewels cease to
 Drummond College A100        | sparkle, and the gold loses its lustre, and
 x 3069                       | the throne room becomes a prison - and all
 There can be only one.       | that remains is a father's love for his child


Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: ljung@cae.wisc.edu (David Ljung)
Subject: Re: I'm stupid...
Organization: Spawning Cow! Productions
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:49:06 CDT

	[deletions of people claiming auto-stupidity]
>my favorite game.....strip ker-plunk.
>
>


Oh yeah!
Well I am NOT stupid.

Wait, what am I doing posting here?

Geez, how stoopid of me!


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Not long after Andy and I met, we were driving down Pennsylvania Avenue and
encountered some or another noisy pinko demonstration.
"How come," I asked Andy, "whenever something upsets the Left, you see
immediate marches and parades and rallies with signs already printed and
rhyming slogans already composed, whereas whenever something upsets
the Right, you see two members of the Young Americans for Freedom waving
a six-inch American flag?"
"We have jobs," said Andy.		-- From  "Parliament of Whores"
					   by P.J. O'Rourke
--------= I wish this were a .sig so I wouldn't have to type it ;-) =---------
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:40:28 EDT
From: me, myself and I <DDP100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: My Favorite Stupid Story

In article <1992Jul21.182644.5395@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
aa568@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vicki Schmotzer) says:
>
[stuff deleted]
>Gad, it's amazing how STUUUUPID people are!!
>
>- - - - - - Sorry, no snappy sign-off sig

  Yes, it's true, and they ALL DRIVE IN FRONT OF ME!  Why me?  Why do
so many of them have Maryland plates?  Where do they learn how NOT to
drive?

                                          - Duane P.
 ------------------------------ -------------------------------------------
|     DDP100@psuvm.psu.edu     |                I am man,                  |
| attn: Geeks With an Attitude |              Hear me oink.                |
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Hi!  I'm a replicating .sig virus!  Join in the fun and copy me into yours!
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL)
Subject: Re: STOOOOPIDITY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.033818.9072@cs.uow.edu.au>, u9147063@cs.uow.edu.au (Richard Barry Ling) writes...
>Hi, I just decided I hadn't posted anything to usenet for a while
	
	and ........?



Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: aa568@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vicki Schmotzer)
Subject: My Favorite Stupid Story
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:26:44 GMT


My sister-in-law used to work as a vet's assistant.  A client
brought in a dog who was just loaded with worms, so the vet
prescribed a de-wormer.  My sister-in-law filled a medication
bottle with the proper number of pills, each wrapped in foil,
and instructed the client to bring the dog back in a week.

One week later, the client brought the dog back, still loaded
with worms.  When my sister-in-law inquired "Didn't you give
the dog his pills?" the client replied, "Of course!  But I 
don't see how they can work, wrapped in foil like that."

Yes, folks, it's true.  That idiot shoved foil-wrapped capsules
down their dog's throat.  

Gad, it's amazing how STUUUUPID people are!!

- - - - - - Sorry, no snappy sign-off sig
-- 
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice)
Subject: Re: IMPLODED NEWSGROUP (stupidity)
Keywords: Known
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:32:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.152143.3519@darwin.ntu.edu.au> nunn@nutmeg.cs.ntu.edu.au (JsNO  BAR---NUNN) writes:
>  I always used to read this newsgroup until people started putting up cascades,
> and now look at it!.
>
YAY !!!! It's really stupid now.

Matthew
From: u9147063@cs.uow.edu.au (Richard Barry Ling)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: STOOOOPIDITY
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:38:18 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Hi, I just decided I hadn't posted anything to usenet for a while
From: IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: My cat ate my telephone
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:01:33 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

My mama wears army boots, too.
And yes, in the immortal words of my cousin Jennifer,
"It's fun being dumb"...........Andie.
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity