From: kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran)
Subject: Well, now, isn't that *SPECIAL*???
Summary: You were expecting maybe the Spanish Inquisition? 
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 22:57:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.022422.6902@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c164-ad@po.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) writes:
>In article <1992Oct06.184340.113616@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
>>In  <1992Oct6.052642.26825@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>  c164-ad@po.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) writes:
>>> In article <1992Oct6.035312.9543@netcom.com> bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
>>> >
>>> >I don't care if you're sick, elderly, deformed, criminal, rich, or
>>> >poor -- if you try to violate my body against my will, I'll do
>>> >everything I can to stop you.  If I have to kill you to stop you, then
>
>>> You make it sound like the unborn child within someone is guilty of
>>> trespassing, battery, and various crimes.
>>
>>You avoided answering the question.
>>
>The question was:
>   If my own BODY isn't my own, then what IS?
>
>To those women who are pregnant, it is their body.  However, there is 
>another body in there too, a special human life.
                              ^^^^^^^

Gee, now it's not just "a" human life, it's a *SPECIAL* human life...

Would you mind telling me what that makes the pregnant woman?

>
>Which, of course, reminds me of how sometimes, we can be overly competitive
>and territorial.  Win win win, conquer, defeat the others attitudes has
>its good points.  Unfortunately, this attitude carried out to a near extreme
>leaves little room for cooperation, and sharing.

Which has nothing to do with abortion, so what's your point?

>
>I don't know about you but when I was a young one, I was taught to share,
>to love, and to take care of others.  When their is an attitude of being
>able to "control" your own body even when another human body is in there, 
>this sounds contrary to some of the basic teachings I learned when I was
>young.  Instead of sharing, you try to fight with the unborn, exerting
>territorial control as to who controls whose body.  

I assume that if you're ever raped, you'll just lie there and take it?

>
>Why fight?  Why struggle?  Why exert control over another human body?

You really _are_ clueless, aren't you?

>What about sharing?  What about cooperation?

What about intelligence?  What about thinking before you open your
mouth?

>
>The birth process is certainly a painful, gruelling one.  Expectant mothers
>certainly have fear in them, are worried about support, have to endure
>pains and wild streaks, and undergo numerous other things.  However, we must
>also remember what exactly is inside of them, their human unborn sons
>and daughters.  

You know, I just wish that every man who has ever said this could be
pregnant and give birth just once.  One time.

That's all it would take.
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