From: c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: SEX
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:36:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

In article <1eqtfuINNhqc@menudo.uh.edu> mba2@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>	What purpose does it serve except "relieving pressure"?
>	
>	Hence, does it make it wrong? (The relieving pressure kind)

I don't believe sex for sex's sake to be inherently wrong.  Unlike the fire
and brimstone preachers who ladened America with its Puritan view of sexuality,
I see no sense in making something so wonderful into something shameful
and hidden.

>PS	NO, either way i am bothered..  I have a homosexual friend, who was
>	a friend before he realized his "life style" and he is now and will
>	be in the future.... I do not hold sexual preferences against anybody
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>	I just don't condone homosexuality, support it or feel that it is
>	"right", "natural", etc...

Seems to me you do "hold sexual pref against" people.  Why?  I have several
gay friends.  I think if you were more familiar with gays and lesbians, you
might not be so uncomfortable around them.  That's how it works with different
races, and that's how it works with different sexual preferences.

You don't need to support homosexuality; it will exist regardless of your
consent.  As to whether it's natural: consider the fact that it has existed
throughout the history of humanity.  Consider that several species of animals
exhibit homosexuality, sometimes in large numbers (albeit temporarily in
those instances).  Consider that research has implied a brain-based beginning
to homosexuality.

My guess is that homosexuality arises from a combination of biological and
mentally conditioned factors.  There is also no one monolithic "homosexuality";
people vary in the degree to which they are attracted to the opposite sex.
Why condemn it?  Whom does it hurt, you and your tender sensibilities?

>PS	I realize it's a difficult topic to discuss, and I've noticed, as I
>	expected, some of the regulars as well as irregulars have not posted
>	on this topic.... Conclusion.... It's not a topic that people are
>	comfortable with....hence the problems concering this topic in our
>	culture are real....there is hypocrisy....

No, I haven't posted for the same reason as Ron: it's a non-issue.  People's
views on sex are largely influenced by their upbringing.  They also frequently
mix their religious views and concepts of morality with their views on
sexuality.  It's difficult to persuade anybody to a different view; too 
frequently you get a vitriolic reaction with unproductive debate.  Neither
side listens to the other because it's a basic world-view that's being
attacked.

We haven't had many conservative viewpoints posted.  I assume that's because
they (a) don't read this newsgroup, or (b) don't see that it would make any
difference.  Would you take on a campus preacher and try to make him see
the truth in atheism?  No?  Then would you take on my conservative parents
and try to change their views on sexuality?  I have; I failed.  So I leave
them alone.
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>It's not my goddamn planet, monkey boy
>Puneet

It IS your goddamn planet, and we need to discuss and CHANGE.

Manish

Do not know love when the spring flowers bloom
An inch of love is an inch of ashes.
                                          - T'ang dynasty poem