From: why@kpc.com (Will Hyde)
Subject: Re: Cameo Club Update
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:41:41 GMT

In article <5txn9np.slick@netcom.com> slick@netcom.com (Martin Veneroso) writes:
>mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako) writes:
>
>>I stopped by the Cameo to checkout the no-limit holdem games this weekend
>>and to my surprise, they have changed the holdem games, for the worse.  It
>>seems that the city council of Palo Alto has gotten into the act and has
>>really screwed them over.  The first change is that time collections are now
>>collected on the button and chopped from the pot instead of being paid on
>>the half hour.  Although this is probably a change for the better it doesn't
>>play out that way.

  C'mon mitch, you been around longer than that.  Consider:  The "new
  regulation that allows only 8 players per game" occured simultaneously
  with the change to raking the pot on a per hand basis (from time) ...

>>The second change (and most brutal) is that the games are all limited now
>>to eight players.  Heck, I thought the Garden City was bad news at nine 
>>handed but now, eight handed?  Get real.  The city council must be on the
>>payroll of Artichoke Joes AND the Garden City.

  City council my ass!  If they could get away with limiting the games
  to four players, don't you think they'd do that?  Considering that
  they are taking their cut per hand now....

  I worked in that joint for fifteen years, back when Leo Brandt had it
  and all the action was no-limit lowball ... the city council never,
  not once in fifteen years, interfered in the operation of that joint.

  And in those days the dealer (me) took a hand and played against you!
  Without putting in an ante, and, of course, paying no "Time".  That 
  is, the dealer took a "free hand" and played unlimited funds against 
  you ... and although he played Leo's money, and didn't get any part of
  what he won, if he didn't win he didn't work ... and his Xmas bonus
  was determined by his record for the year....  And in the Sixties, a
  Christmas bonus of a thousand dollars was pretty sweet!  In other
  words, you had no chance against the dealer ... but the city council
  didn't fuck with that setup.  Do you really think it's a regulation
  that has cut the games to eight-handed?

>
>OK, I'm probably going to expose myself as a chip-burning neophyte for
>opining on this, but I stopped in at the Cameo yesterday for a little
>structure.  Granted, at the Cameo the rake is $2 regardless of the puny size
>of the pot, 

  Exactly!  The shorter the game, the faster the hands and the more
  games they can spread with x-number of players....

  I'm sorry, and if I'm wrong I'll apologize to Marko T. ... but I don't
  buy it.  

>BTW, I seem to recall reading some months ago that the Cameo was living on
>borrowed time, and that the zoning for the property on which it sits is due
>to be changed (or perhaps the current zoning regs enforced) in such a way
>as to force the card room to close.  Can anyone back this up, or did it
>occur in some sort of dream sequence?

  Don't lose any sleep over the fate of the Cameo Club.  Marko and the
  boys already own the Sutter's license ... watch for them to build a
  new 50-table joint somewhere in San Jose ... and the Cameo Club is
  only moving.  The new joint is already in the works.

  Again, it's bullshit.  Zoning regulations, phooey!  Do you have any
  idea what that property is worth?  Measure it in $k per sq. ft.  The
  parking lot alone is worth a fortune.  Look for condos on that
  property ... and don't look for card players to be buying them....

  Boy!  Could I tell you some stories about the Cameo Club....  But,
  of course, I ain't got the balls!

  -Hugo Ledbetter

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