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From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: XV - does it exist for the Amiga?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:36:57 GMT
X-Newssoftware: GRn 1.16g (10.31.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
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In article <ALANB.92Nov11120003@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com> alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins) writes:
>
> A friend forwarded to me from comp.windows.x.apps
>
> Path: lynx!fmsrl7!destroyer!uunet!olivea!isc-br!tau-ceti!dejavu!salnick
> From: salnick@dejavu.spk.wa.us (There is no substitute for displacement...)
> Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps

 Seen the origin ?!

> Subject: xv for Amiga
> Message-ID: <salnick.02vg@dejavu.spk.wa.us>
> Date: 7 Nov 92 13:14:54 GMT
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>
> I am porting xv to run on the Amiga, and have a working version (no TIFF,
> JPEG yet).  Anyone interested?

 We all are, but on Intiution, not on X11-Windows.

>
> bob
> RW Salnick, Spokane,WA  |  Home: salnick@dejavu.spk.wa.us
>   Amiga 1000, WB 1.3    |  Work: mfgsys!salnick@kaiser.spk.wa.us
>       WA9BVE            |
>
> --
> --
>      Alan Braggins, alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com, abraggins@cix.compulink.co.uk
> Shape Data - A division of EDS-Scicon Limited.   Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
>    "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
>  "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."

 Markus

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From: pmancini@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Peter Mancini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: BMP probs with windows 3.1 and ADPRO
Keywords: BMP, ADPRO, ASDG, PROBLEMS
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:45:15 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University


	Has anyone here come across the problem where BMP files
generated by ADPRO nolonger load as wallpaper in windows 3.1 yet load
fine into Paint Brush and BMPVIEW?  I find that loading them into Paint
Brush and resaving the file under a new name solves the problem, but
raises questions.  Is Windows 3.1 buggy or is ADPRO?  I have a file that
was generated by ADPRO and a copy that was resaved by Paint Brush if
anyone wants to examine them (like ASDG support???) for specific
differences.  I also have .PCX files that were supposed to be 16 color
but ADPRO saved as 256 color.  Perry insists this problem was fixed
months ago, but I have upgraded to ADPRO 2.1 and still have the problem.
 (though I didn't try saving as an EGA file, could that be the problem? 
If so it goes against their otherwise consistant interface).

--Pete
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From: umward10@news.cc.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward)
Subject: Re: GIF Viewers
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:42:43 GMT

Matthias Scheler (tron@uni-paderborn.de) wrote:
: In article <BxBzFy.HHp@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umward10@news.cc.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward) writes:
: |> 
: |>    Are there  any GIF viewers that allow you to view powerpacked GIFs?
: |> 
: GIF files are usually Huffman encoded. Even LhA can't compress them very well,
: PowerPacker won't be able to get them 1% smaller.
: 

   Ah, didn't think of that.  Thanks.

   (Could explain why they wouldn't compress, I always thought JPEG was
the compressor)
 --
_   ///         Computer Science                    "However, everyday, I'm
\\ ///	        University of Manitoba, CANADA!     dumping the body..."
 \X//  AMIGA!   umward10@ccu.umanitoba.ca
From: johnh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (John J Humpal)
Subject: Re: Open Letter
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:05:20 GMT

This post is directed at both Perry K. and Ben Williams

In article <69310@cup.portal.com> pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz) writes:
>In this, the week that Art Department Professional was overwhelmingly voted
>the  1992 Reader's Choice for Best Imaging Processing Program and MorphPlus
>was  used  to create one of TV'S most highly rated shows (Quantum Leap), we
>have been viciously savaged by what must be considered:  sour grapes.
>
	Congratulations.

>Mr.   Williams (of Black Belt Systems) said we are liars.  He said that our
>company  (which  earned  the only Amiga Community Service Award ever given)
>actually hates the Amiga community and strives like a dark force to deceive
>it  at  every  turn.  He says we have contempt for Amiga users and that his
>company is, but the victim.
>
	Oh, come on, Perry. He said no such thing.
>
> [much too much spleen-venting deleted]
>

	I just have one thing to say to Perry and Ben:

		ENOUGH, ALREADY!

	I, for one, am getting sick and tired of these childish attacks
on one another's products.  We, the readers and potential consumers of
your products are learning virtually nothing from these endless rounds of
attack and counterattack.  Besides, you're wasting bandwidth.
	If you both must continue the mutual bad-mouthing, I hope you'll
have the good grace to take it to .advocacy which is where this sort of
stuff really belongs.

>In closing, we have faith in our ability to produce a superior product, and
>we are confident that the Amiga community will always respond to a superior
>product.  We happily submit ourselves to the only test which matters.
>
	I hope I can take you at your word on this.	

P.S.  Thanks to Kermit for staying above the fray!
-- 
-John

John J. Humpal -- johnh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu -- short .sig, std. disclaimer

Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.graphics:7351 comp.sys.amiga.programmer:15715
From: bryan@cs.utexas.edu (Bryan Bayerdorffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: OS3.0: does this have to use Chip ram?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 19:09:35 -0600
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In article <BxK58F.24J@fc.hp.com> koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren) writes:
=-
=-So it occurred to me that this scheme might be workable:
=-
=-   Bitmaps for the workbench screen itself:    CHIP
=-   Bitmaps for the IFF backdrop images    :    FAST
=-
=-The idea is that only the screen's bitmaps _really_ have to be in chip
=-RAM, because they are the only ones displayed.  The IFF backdrop bitmaps
=-are never displayed directly; they are just used to copy parts of back
=-into the screen's bitmap.  If one is willing to use the CPU to do this
=-copy instead of the blitter, then why couldn't the IFF backdrop image
=-planes be stored in fast RAM?  I have boatloads of fast RAM to allocate


You could ask that question about any concealed portion of a bitmap.  It's a
fine idea, and would be a good way to implement SMART_REFRESH windows,
especially with a fast processor, and maybe dual-ported chip RAM.  I'd say that
Intuition doesn't do this for SMART_REFRESH windows, and Workbench doesn't do
this for its SIMPLE_REFRESH window, because they're aimed at the
lowest-common-denominator system with a 7MHz 68000 and 16-bit-wide chip RAM,
which would be killed by this scheme.  Hell, even Nickprefs keeps its WB picture
in chip RAM.

Still, there otter be a config option that tells the system which way to do it.
Anyone want to reimplement layers.library?


Now get back to work on SKsh, Steve.  I want my $FG_PRI.   :-)
From: blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Perfect(?) Morphing...
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 00:09:36 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Perry,

Every word I said was true, in vast contrast to the propoganda you're
currently touting.

I'll have VERY specific instances posted here and on other major nets
and in dealer's hands beginning tomorrow.

If you've temporarily obtained a customer or two of ours, well that's just
great. You see, we've got just about every one we've shown Imagemaster to
in person to drop not only Morph Plus but AdPro as well. So if your lies
and obfuscation have duped a few people, that's ok.

It's too bad - you could have had a fine product if you hadn't been
in such a hurry to ride our coat-tails.

BTW, what *is* wrong with your AMiga image rendering? WHy do those images
just look so terribly bad compared to those Imagemaster can generate?

Maybe you should do a little work on the basics there, fella. Maybe then
you can try to catch up and have half a chance. :^)

Ben
From: blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Important new Imagemaster released
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 21:16:01 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Steve Koren,

Sure enough, it was in the "storage" drawer - thanks a bunch. :^)

Ben
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: gifs :(
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 16:14:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>
>With such a powerful graphics machine at my desk (Amiga2000),
>why can't I display 256 color gifs :(
>-chuck

Oh, but you can. :)
You just can't display them on a standard Amiga in 256 colors
(unless you have the New 4000 or 1200 models). What you can do is
load your GIFs into various software pkgs and convert them into
some native Amiga mode, like 16 dithered color hi-res or HAM.
Or you can connect a third party hardware display device to your
Amiga and view them in 256 or more colors, and there are various
hardware display devices that can do this, for various amounts
of money, like DCTV, Firecracker, OpalVision, IV-24, etc. etc.

Your cheapest solution would be a simple software conversion 
program. Your most expensive solution would be an Amiga 4000. The others
all fall somewhere inbetween :)
Harv
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Trying to find the perfect morpher
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:17:50 GMT

In article <69190@cup.portal.com> blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
writes:

>Thanks for the feedback, though - every little bit we hear helps.

Ok Ben, we've got two yays from ASDG and Nova Design concerning 2.0 style
guide compliance. Any chance that you could add this to the IM wishlist?
From: billc@cryo.rain.com (William J. Coldwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: View - AGA?  When.
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:48:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cryo.billc.0gz4
Reply-To: billc@cryo.rain.com
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR
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X-NewsSoftware: GRn-beta 1.16g (11.07.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith


Thanks to a push from ASDG, Cryogenic will be releasing a version of View
for the AGA modes (along with some minor bug fixes).  This should be
available sometime next week.  This was originally planned for December
or January release, but when Perry called and said he needed it now, we
rearranged the schedule to get it to him ASAP.  So, when View comes out
next week, thank Perry (well, ok, you can thank us too).

-- 
#Disclaimer:  I'm sorry.  That's the way it goes.
#This Amiga developer has amused himself to death.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: slhmz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Nickprefs...
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:43:21 GMT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1dvkmeINN2kh@agate.berkeley.edu>, kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller) writes:
> What is Nickprefs and where can it be found?

Nickprefs is three additional preference editors for
Workbench/Kickstart 2.0x  They include:

  Floppy Preferences:  Allows you to turn on/off "Drive Clicking"
                       Allows you to customize settings for:

                                Step Delay
			      	Settle Delay
				Calibrate Delay
				Max Retry

  
  WBPicture Prefeneces:  Allows you to load in a .IFF image and display
                         it as a backdrop on your Workbench.  Supports
                         as many colors as available on your workbench.


  Busy Pointer Preferences:  Allows you to edit the Busy Pointer.  Supports
                             an animated pointer as well.  You just set the
                             number of frames, draw each frame, and off
                             you go....
 

Nickprefs is available at any good FTP site.

   wuarchive.wustl.edu
   amiga.physik.unizh.ch

Look for it in the "OS20" directories.  (or something remotely simular...)

--
Faith

> Kevin
> kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu
> 
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From: jeh@raster.kodak.com (Ed Hanway)
Subject: Re: GIF Viewers
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Digital Systems Center
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:55:51 GMT

Kelvin Leung (abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: GIF files are encoded with Huffman code?? mm... I didn't know that...
: I always thought JPEG was...

GIF files are Lempel-Ziv & Welch (LZW) encoded.  It's similar to the
compression used by archivers of a generation ago, like zoo.

JPEG files are Huffman encoded.  Actually, they can use either Huffman
coding or arithmetic coding, but since IBM has a patent on arithmetic
coding, few if any applications are going to the trouble of obtaining
a license under their patent when Huffman coding does nearly as well.

--
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From: mikep@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mike Powell)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:05:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Open Letter
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics



	Perry K. writes:
	
"In this, the week that Art Department Professional was overwhelmingly voted
the  1992 Reader's Choice for Best Imaging Processing Program and MorphPlus
was  used  to create one of TV'S most highly rated shows (Quantum Leap), we
have been viciously savaged by what must be considered:  sour grapes.

--------------------------


	Perry....

	While I'm sure many in the Amiga community, including myself,
	appreciate ASDG's work in the Amiga marketplace, I don't
	beleve that many of us appreciate the recent war-of-words
	over three big morphing packages.

	My problem is with the kind of statement you made above.

	The bulk of what you said above is rather insulting to me, as
	a potential customer, of MorphPlus.  It says absolutly nothing
	about the package itself.... and is mostly hype.

	Will the rating of the "Quantum Leap" television show help
	my morphs look better?  Will grand awards your company has
	received make your morphing package easier to use?

	I think not.  

	While I'm sure you are proud of the accomplishments of ASDG
	(as I think you should be), your current advertisements and
	recent posts WRT MorphPlus, Imagemaster, and ImageFX have been
	unusually "low-budget" using poorly constructed and I feel very
	misleading comparison charts....

	I believe the responses from your competitors has been quite
	fair, factual, and to-the-point.  In contrast, your replies
	have avoided many of the issues, and speak of things of little
	interest to morph-package shoppers.... like 'sour grapes',
	tv show ratings, and awards for other software packages.....

	Fluff.

	Detailed and honest replies from your competitors regarding
	their products (and how they compare to MorphPlus) were, I feel,
	unfortunate but necessary given ASDG's misleading ad tactics.

	My assessment is that your competetion has conducted themselves 
	responsibly, and in a professional manner for the most part.
	I can't blame them for being a bit steamed by recent events.  I
	feel they controled themselves pretty well.

	My order for Imagemaster goes out today.

	-Mike-



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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re:  HAM, IFF, archives 
Keywords: Looking for Pictures 
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:44:49 GMT

jwhite@batph25.bnr.ca (Jim White) writes:
>Amiga software, and I am curious about sites that might have 
>lots of IFF/GIF/HAM pictures for the Amiga (Art, photos, drawings,
 
    wuarchive.wustl.edu has a GIF directory. Some are photos and others are
  drawings. I can't find my listing of the directory they are in. Sorry.
   JimP.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                     "Kill the Wabbit ! " Elmer Fudd.
From: govil@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Shalini Govil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Imagine
Date: 9 Nov 1992 16:21:32 -0500
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp. -- IC Group
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: elysium.warren.mentorg.com

Does anyone know if Imagine offers any student discounts over their product?
Thanks
Shalini
.
From: troy@centerline (Troy Runkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Reflections in imagine.
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:53:27 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.1.27
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Greetings all,
  I recently began using Imagine 1.1 on my Amiga 2000.  The image
that I am currently working on consists of a red and white checked
ground with a sphere resting on the ground.  There are two light
sources just above the sphere and the camera is pointing at the
sphere at about a 45 degree angle.  The sphere attributes has 
reflection set to 255 for all three colors.  When I render the image 
in trace mode the sphere reflects the ground OK but the top of the 
sphere is always black.  If I set the horizon color to something then
that color will be partially reflected by the sphere, but the very top 
of the sphere will still be black.  How do I go about setting up my 
stage so that the top of the sphere will have a color and not be 
black?  Thanks in advance for any help.

--Troy Runkel			troy@centerline.com
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From: bja20850@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (B.J. Anderson)
Subject: Impact Vision = flicker fixer for 1220 x 400???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:09:49 GMT

Just finished reading the comp.sys.amiga.reviews of
GVP's ImpactVision24 and I saw this:

> The
> IV24 board has the ability, unlike Commodore's flicker-unit, to
> de-interlace/scan double 15 KHz output.

Does this mean that the IV24 could actually serve as a deinterlacer
(albeit pricey at $2000 :) for the A3000's "NTSC:Super-High Res Laced"
mode???

It'd be nice if we could hear from actual IV24 & A3000 users and no one
else :)

-Beej

-- 
mail: bja20850@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: rtillery@crash.cts.com (Rick Tillery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Best way to view GIF images on a A3000.
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:01:41 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In article <reaper.721515371@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> reaper@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jason Butler) writes:
>matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>
>>Paul Coene (drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US) wrote:
>
>>: I am disappointed at the quality of gif images, as I currently display
>>: them on my A3000 (I'm using a utility called VirtGif, just like I did
>>: on my A2000).
>
>Try Hamlab* 2.08  It's nice.  You can get the demo on most sites.  The demo
>crops pics to 512 by 512(i think, can't remember). It's shareware, the
>registration fee is small(to rid yourself of the cropping).  It's a very 
>nice conversion program.  Quick too.  Check it out!!

I use a program called GIFT.  It is very quick and has some nifty features
including auto horizontal scaling, use of appropriate sub-HAM modes when
possible, filling in of lines in interlace GIFs (this fills the empty lines
of an interlace GIF with copies of the ones already loaded to allow a more
visible image), several dithering types, etc.

I find it nearly as fast as TurboGIF (which shows GIFs in b&w) with no
special features (dithering) on, on my A3000.

It's by Brian Fehdrau of Anarchy Road Software (or so it says :-)

If it's not available out there in FTP land, let me know and I'll post
it so someone can place it somewhere for FTP.

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From: unpalomb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Nicholas Palombo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: ANIM decompressor?
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:27:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxa.BxBwE3.5K6
Distribution: usa
Organization: Educational Computing Network


Does anyone know of software that decompresses ANIMs into their individual
frames?

I know CyroTools has a splitter, but does not split down to the individual
frames. Does DeluxePaint decompress Anims (I am the only Amiga user who
does not have DPaint)?

Nick
From: Opal_Sullen@republik.fidonet.org (Opal Sullen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: CBM Discusses Future Amigas
Distribution: world
Date: 3 Nov 92 19:39:06 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

In a message dated Fri 30 Oct 92 17:22, Daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com wrote:

 DH> Motorola still seems to be intent on releasing the
 DH> 88110, I have the data book and all, and maybe even a followup
 DH> (88120?), but chances are, they're betting their RISC future on the
 DH> PowerPC stuff, since  that's where the money will be.

and what is up w/ that strategic agreement between CBM and DEC?  is CBM
going to abandon the 680x0 and go to DEC's alpha?  (please say yes).

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