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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:28:00 -0800
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From:         Don Roberts <DSROBERTS@BIIVAX.DP.BECKMAN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Revival Centre International

>First point British-Isreal teaching is Scriptural, about 1/3rd of the Bible
>teaches it.  Don't have list of books on me but if you want I can give you a
>full list.

I've always heard this referred to as "Anglo-Isrealism" rather than
"British-Isrealism".  One church that propounds this teaching is Herbert W.
Armstrongs "World(wide) Church of God".  It all seems rather exclusive and
ethnocentric if you ask me.  Certainly is no archeological evidence for it.

I would like you to point out Biblical texts that support this.  There's
nothing in my Bible that supports this at all.

>BTW Britain is not the 12th tribe but contains 10 tribes, America sprung
>forth from Manasseh the 13th tribe.

My understanding of this teaching is that this is where the lost 10 tribes
ended up.  This is the first I've heard about America coming from Manasseh.
Does this refer to the native americans?

Saxon ... Isaacson ... Saacson ... Saxon

Interesting play on words, eh?

>2nd point is scriptural about the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, the Bible
>commands you to be Baptised in the Holy Spirit, either Obey God or do your
>own thing, the Bible teaches that when you are Baptised in the Holy Spirit
>that you will speak in tongues.....
>
>If you read the following Scriptures, you will find this true.
>
>Acts 2(4) states "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to
>                 speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."

But it didn't say they HAD to, and there are other passages where people were
baptised in the spirit and DID NOT speak in tongues.

>verse 38.. "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptised every one of you
>            in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and YE SHALL
>            RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST.

And nothing in this or the following specifically singles out tongues as a
necessary gift.  Just one that manifested itself at that time.

>Mark 16(17-20) states that EVERYONE that believes SHALL speak in new tongues,
>it doesn't say maybe or most it says ALL. I believe God.

Let's test this...

Mk 16:17-20, KJV (AV)
And these signs shall follow those that have believed:  in my name they shall
cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up
serpents; and if they should drink any deadly thing it shall not injure them,
and they shall be well.
The Lord therefore, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and
sat at the right hand of God.  And they, going forth, preached everywhere, the
Lord working with htem, and confirming the word by the signs following upon it.

Hmm.  Don't see anything there saying ALL believers should speak in tongues.
If we took it that way, then I guess we can't be believers until we do ALL of:
- Cast out demons
- Speak in tongues
- Take up serpents
- Drink deadly things and survive

Is this what you're saying?  Have you "drunk a deadly thing"?

So, we have a text which gives some examples of some signs that can be used to
"confirm the word", but where is the text that says they necessarily follow?
By the way, if you look at the Greek translated "shall", you'll see that is a
poor translation.  Can or May would be much more accurate :-), not that it
matters, it still doesn't say what you said, even in KJV (AV)

Looks rather like a distortion of the Word to me.

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