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From: wild@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Markus Wild)
Subject: BSD C library for Amiga Unix
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:50:42 GMT


I uploaded my shared bsd library to amiga.physik.unizh.ch:amix/new.
I hope I found all dependencies to local sources (and removed them ;-)),
but I'll only know for sure if somebody else tries to get the library
up and running ;-) It's been in use now for quite some time on amiga, as
the ftpd uses it, and the mailer as well, since we switched to sendmail.

-Markus
-- 
Markus M. Wild    -  wild@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch  |  wild@amiga.physik.unizh.ch 
Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by spontaneously moving
from where you left them to where you can't find them.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: robbar@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Baruch Robert Allan )
Subject: Audio Device in 2.03
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 06:36:34 GMT

I'm having some difficulty using the audio device driver in 
AMIX version 2.03.  Does anyone know if there's a bug in the driver? It
seems to Panic the kernal pretty consistantly.

I did the standard mknod /dev/audio c 46 0, and figured it would
work just fine!


Anyone got any suggestions or inforamtion on /dev/audio?


What is the format of the data-stream sent to /dev/audio to produce
deterministic audio output?


Rob


Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: stephe@netcom.com (Stephen Moehle)
Subject: Help linking X program
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 00:35:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Unresolved symbols
Keywords: X linking

Hi, I am having problems linking an X program, and I am hoping someone can
help me.  I had problems using the shared X libraries so I used the
archieve versions instead.  But now I am having problems with the sockets
or the networking or something.  (As you can probably guess, I am just
starting out trying to do UNIX programming.  Any help much appreciated.)
The program I am trying to link is xhello.c out of the "X Toolkit
Intrinsics Programming Manual" from O'Reilly.  First, how do I get rid
of my remaining link errors?  Also, I need to know exactly which of the
shared X libraries is having problems and where I can find a corrected
verion.  I have version 2.1 of Amix, if that is any help.

gcc x1.o /usr/lib/libXaw.a /usr/lib/libXmu.a /usr/lib/libXt.a /usr/lib/libX11.a -lm -lsocket

Undefined			first referenced
 symbol  			    in file
getnetconfig                        /usr/lib/libsocket.so
inet_ntoa                           /usr/lib/libsocket.so
gethostname                         /usr/lib/libXt.a(Initialize.o)
endnetconfig                        /usr/lib/libsocket.so
setnetconfig                        /usr/lib/libsocket.so

On an unrelated topic, where can I obtain a copy of the patch disk for 2.1?
My local dealers have been no help at all and have no idea of what I am
talking about.  Thanks.

Stephe
"You heard the weirdo, man.  What is truth?"
From: abryson@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Aaron Bryson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: How do I copy the 2.1 Install tape ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:56:29 GMT
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems, Inc., Phoenix Product Division

What's the best way to copy the Install tape ? - I've got enough space to
shunt the 30-odd files off onto disk, but I can't seem to create a tape
that the package utilities can read.

Can someone post a simple script I can use ?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: tburns@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy A N Burns)
Subject: What to use for software?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:47:15 GMT


I have one Amiga 2000 in a building ful of IBM and MACs.  The owner of her 
would like to use our EtherNetwork, TCP/IP devices.

What hard/soft ware is recommended?

I heard DOUBLETALK ... by progressive peripherals.

thanks
From: ag@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Gabryelski)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: What to do when you get a panic.
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:10:56 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug17.213613.28703@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com writes:
>You could do what I do. Add a crontab entry that reboots your system
>every night at 3am. Since I added that, I see a panic perhaps once
>a month now rather than once a week.

Or you could write down the panic message (the middle of the three
column list is the most important part) along with the line
containing the `pc' address and send it to the net.

At least then you have a chance of getting the problem fixed.

To increase your chances of getting a response you can:

	mention any modifications you have made to the machine
	and your current configuration.

	write down what you were doing at the time.

	Instead of sending just the center column of numbers
	you could send the output of:

		sed 's:$:/i:' LISTONUMBERS | adb -k

	Where LISTONUMBERS is a file containing one address
	per line from the center column of the panic backtrace.
	(This will create a symbolic backtrace which will
	 allow the observer to tell immediately if this is
	 a well known panic or not).

	Send Hersey's Peanut Butter Cups or Bass Ale
	with your request.

Pax, Keith

Ps, For the backtrace officionado: you needn't copy down the first
five lines of the backtrace.  They are usually the call to `k_trap'
and `panic' itself.  You will note this after looking at the output
from the sed line above from several backtraces.
Xref: sparky comp.unix.amiga:1988 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:14205
From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 3'5'' 1GB IBM Hard disk and Amiga UNIX -- Problems?
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:35:58 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

sck@watson.ibm.com (Scott C. Kennedy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.114625.10891@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>, hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Georg Hessmann) writes:
>|> I consider to buy a ibm 3'5'' 1GB hard disk.
                            ^^^^^

I knew they made big drives, but 3 feet, 5 inches is *very* big!  ;^)

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|     ///                   Operating System Development Group         |
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From: ricks@odin.isc-br.com (Rick Schaeffer 99)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: 2.1 Kernel bug workaround..??
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:18:07 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <1992Aug17.213613.28703@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>
>You could do what I do. Add a crontab entry that reboots your system
>every night at 3am. Since I added that, I see a panic perhaps once
>a month now rather than once a week.
>

You might just keep an eye on the X server (use "ps -el | fgrep X") and
kill it when it get's too big.  In my experience, it's the main (or "only")
culprit and it's much quicker to just kill it.  NOTE: if you are running
with xdm, just logging off isn't enough...you have to go to the console
as root and actually "kill" the server (whose pid shows up in the ps
output from the example above).  xdm will automatically respawn it.
I suppose that someone could come up with a script that did this
automatically...personally I just keep an eye on it (it doesn't grow
all *that* fast :-) ) and kill it when it's size gets up over 6 meg
or so.

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From: slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: SUMARY:READ/NEWSetting up an A3000UX!
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:52:57 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	Hi all,

	I wanted to post a summery and answer to what the problem was. It took
me forever to find it! :(

> 	I need some help. My friend just bought an A3000UX. We are trying to
> hook it up to the ethernet network here but are having no luck. 
> 
> 	Ftp and telnet are all still dead. 

	The problem was, for some unknown reason, in the nodename file in
/etc/nodename file. The file originally contained the name localhost. But when
puting in on the ethernet network at school I needed to change it to "amiga".
Instead it got changed to "amiga.cs.usu.edu". This caused no end of trouble.
Well I finally got a chance to see the boot up and its error message about an
invalid node name and fixed the problem.

	All in all it would have been alot easier if there had been some real
information in the manuals. 

	Unfortunately the machine that Jeff bought was old and came with
version 43beta or something like that. It is terrible! We have ordered the
update though from commodore and I sincerely hope that the latest version is
better that this old beta version.

	Can anyone tell me what window manager the new version runs?

	The current version that we have is an old OpenLook system and it is
terrible as well! :)

	Thanks for the help,
	Joshua
	SLMT9@cc.usu.edu

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*  SLMT9@cc.usu.edu   *            - Who Knows!!!            *
*                     *              Anyone?? Anyone??       *
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If it's a raincoat why does it have to be dry cleaned?
        - Some Guy on some comody show
From: peter@aristotle.sbi.com (Peter Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Interviews on the amiga?
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:31:12 GMT
Reply-To: peter@avogadro.sbi.com
Organization: Salomon Brothers Inc.


If anyone finds out please post the info...
and what version???
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Capt. Sarcastic)
Subject: Re: 3'5'' 1GB IBM Hard disk and Amiga UNIX -- Problems?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 07:20:50 GMT

hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Georg Hessmann) writes:

>Hi,

>I need more hard disks space! :-)

>I consider to buy a ibm 3'5'' 1GB hard disk. 
>But first, I want know, if this hard disk would work with
>Amiga DOS and Amiga UNIX. I've heared some rumors about
>incompatibilities between Amiga UNIX and some hard disks.

Wow.  A three foot five inch drive!  What a form factor!!!


>Does anyone have experience with this sort of hard disks?

>	Georg.

>-- 
>  hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de		(Georg Hemann)
>						(Oberer Markt 7/D-8712 Volkach)
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Capt. Sarcastic
(Kurt S. Koller)
kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: logan@gimlet.herndon.va.us (Jim Logan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Interviews on the amiga?
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:13:42 GMT
Organization: (None)

In article <1992Aug11.033900.27475@gdwest.gd.com> jwb@gdwest.gd.com
(Jack W. Bochsler) writes:
# In article <1301@lorentz.sbi.com> peter@avogadro.sbi.com writes:
# >
# >Has anyone successfully install Interviews on an amiga running UNIX?
# >
# I think that the people at Digital Micronics are working on it.
# Their number is 619/931-8554.

What is it?


-- 
Jim Logan
logan@gimlet.herndon.va.us     ...There's no place like $HOME.
uunet!gimlet!logan
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: crash@ckctpa.UUCP (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Subject: Re: Color-coded UnixPress books (Prentice Hall's phone number)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:15:21 GMT
Reply-To: crash%ckctpa@tct.com (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Organization: Edwards & Edwards Consulting

Call them and ask -- 800/922-0567 for their orders department.  But
not individual orders; only commercial, etc.  But they will answer
questions about ISBN numbers and such, and it's a toll-free call!
-- 
Frank "Crash" Edwards            King Marine Electronics, Inc.
Home: 813/786-3675               Work: 813/530-3411
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: stephan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mark Stephan)
Subject: Status on BSD ???
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:02:52 GMT



Does anyone know the status of BSD for the amiga ?


--
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*                                 Mark Stephan                                * 
*                        E-mail:   stephan@cwis.unomaha.edu                   *
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Georg Hessmann)
Subject: Re: 3'5'' 1GB IBM Hard disk and Amiga UNIX -- Problems?
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:14:54 GMT

In article <34398@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
>sck@watson.ibm.com (Scott C. Kennedy) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug14.114625.10891@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>, hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Georg Hessmann) writes:
>>|> I consider to buy a ibm 3'5'' 1GB hard disk.
>                            ^^^^^
>
>I knew they made big drives, but 3 feet, 5 inches is *very* big!  ;^)

Hmpf, I've meant a hard disk with 41.3mm height, 101.6mm width,
146.0mm depth, and a weight of 0.82kg. 

	Georg.

PS: Long live the metric-system. :)

-- 
  hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de		(Georg Hemann)
						(Oberer Markt 7/D-8712 Volkach)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: abeech@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Adrian Beech)
Subject: Re: Audio Device in 2.03
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: 23 Aug 92 12:44:27 GMT

robbar@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Baruch Robert Allan ) writes:

>I'm having some difficulty using the audio device driver in 
>AMIX version 2.03.  Does anyone know if there's a bug in the driver? It
>seems to Panic the kernal pretty consistantly.

An audio device?  

>I did the standard mknod /dev/audio c 46 0, and figured it would
>work just fine!

Where did you find the info for this?  

>Anyone got any suggestions or inforamtion on /dev/audio?

hmmm... I just created the /dev/audio file and sent it some junky
binary data and guess what ???   My speakers just went crazy!  I
got no panics though.

>What is the format of the data-stream sent to /dev/audio to produce
>deterministic audio output?

If you get this can you please pass it onto the net?

>Rob


-- 
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From: ricks@odin.isc-br.com (Rick Schaeffer 99)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: How do I copy the 2.1 Install tape ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:06:21 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <1992Aug18.015629.8276@catfish.az05.bull.com> abryson@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Aaron Bryson) writes:
>What's the best way to copy the Install tape ? - I've got enough space to
>shunt the 30-odd files off onto disk, but I can't seem to create a tape
>that the package utilities can read.
>
>Can someone post a simple script I can use ?

No problem.  Here is a shar of the files I use to copy the tape.

# This is a shell archive.  Remove anything before this line,
# then unpack it by saving it in a file and typing "sh file".
#
# This archive contains:
#	README	cpdist	dtdist	seglist	
#

echo x - README
cat >README <<'@EOF'
These three files let you copy the Amiga Unix 2.1 Distribution tape.
  cpdist:  A little shell script that reads the tape and creates a
           bunch of files...one for each tape segment.
  
  dtdist:  A little shell script that does the opposite...ie: re-create
           the distribution tape

  seglist: A file containing the names used for each of the segments
           on the tape
@EOF

chmod 666 README

echo x - cpdist
cat >cpdist <<'@EOF'
:
for name in `cat seglist`
do
	echo "Working on $name"
	dd if=/dev/rmt/4n of=$name bs=32k
done
@EOF

chmod 774 cpdist

echo x - dtdist
cat >dtdist <<'@EOF'
:
for name in `cat seglist`
do
	echo "Working on $name"
	dd if=$name of=/dev/rmt/4n bs=32k
done
@EOF

chmod 774 dtdist

echo x - seglist
cat >seglist <<'@EOF'
amixlist
unixcont
core
bsd
Cdev
lp
man
net
public
sysadm
terminfo
text
uucp
Xcore
Xbasic
olcore
Xtras
Xdev
oldev
conf
emacs
games
amigasrc
emacsrc
gnusrc
gnusrc2
pubsrc
Xsource
X11r5src
@EOF

chmod 644 seglist

exit 0
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: wyk1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Won Y Kim)
Subject: Re: 2.1 Kernel bug workaround..??
Reply-To: wyk1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Won Y Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:23:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.011807.27495@isc-br.isc-br.com> ricks@odin.isc-br.com (Rick Schaeffer 99) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.213613.28703@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com writes:
>>
>>
>>You could do what I do. Add a crontab entry that reboots your system
>>every night at 3am. Since I added that, I see a panic perhaps once
>>a month now rather than once a week.
>>
>
>You might just keep an eye on the X server (use "ps -el | fgrep X") and
>kill it when it get's too big.  In my experience, it's the main (or "only")
>culprit and it's much quicker to just kill it.  NOTE: if you are running
>with xdm, just logging off isn't enough...you have to go to the console
>as root and actually "kill" the server (whose pid shows up in the ps
>output from the example above).  xdm will automatically respawn it.
>I suppose that someone could come up with a script that did this
>automatically...personally I just keep an eye on it (it doesn't grow
>all *that* fast :-) ) and kill it when it's size gets up over 6 meg
>or so.

Thanks.. I will try this too!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Won Kim. Programmer ReProgrammer.
"I am the SuperGrunt. The *Orginal* SuperGrunt. Perhaps you have heard of me?"
						- The Orginal SuperGrunt
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: wyk1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Won Y Kim)
Subject: 2.1 kernel bug fix???
Reply-To: wyk1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Won Y Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:29:27 GMT


Hi all, I am a semi happy 2.1 Amiga Unix user...

I recently got olwm to start via xdm instead of twm and it does look
really nice! 
 
Problem is, the kernel bug stated in the addendum for 2.1
(where the swap space gradually dissolves away until there is no more..)
is really apparent now.

Every program that I run seem to eat up and never return some of the swap 
space. (via swap -s)

This slow death is extremely noticeable when under olwm/twm etc.. such
that I can only start and stop a small number of tasks before my 27mb
of swap is reduced to microscopic amounts. 

This happens even w/o olwm active, alhough the progression is slower.

Now, this neccessitates the shutdown/rebooting of the machines every
2-3 days of normal (non olwm) useage..

The question I have is..

AM I THE ONLY NE WHO IS TICKED OFF AT THIS??

If not, was there a FAQ somemwhere that explains how to stop it from 
happening?? 

Is there a fix for this bug?? I remember bits of a "fix disk" fo 2.1
(or was that  2.03 that I am confusing with??)

I waited ~1 year for 2.1 to come out, shelled out my meager savings
to upgrade from 1.1, and now I find this... (sigh.....)

If there *is* a fix too this problem, someone please point me to it!

Second query, if a A3000 has full 16mb of memory, are additional
fastram from 040 cards mapped as contiguous?? (I am speaking of
the PP&S Mercury)

That is, can I use the fast ram from an accelerator card even if
unix doesn't function with an 040??

Any answers greatly appreciated.

						- Frustrated in NYC.
						- WYK!!


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Won Kim. Programmer ReProgrammer.
"I am the SuperGrunt. The *Orginal* SuperGrunt. Perhaps you have heard of me?"
						- The Orginal SuperGrunt
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com (Keith Barrett)
Subject: Re: 2.1 Kernel bug workaround..??
Reply-To: barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:36:13 GMT



You could do what I do. Add a crontab entry that reboots your system
every night at 3am. Since I added that, I see a panic perhaps once
a month now rather than once a week.


--

Keith Barrett

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From: slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Help Setting up an A3000UX!
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:56:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	Hello All,

	I need some help. My friend just bought an A3000UX. We are trying to
hook it up to the ethernet network here but are having no luck. 

	Ftp and telnet are all still dead. 
	
	We have read the manuals but there is no real information there.

	Any help would be great!

	Thanks,
	Joshua

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*  SLMT9@cc.usu.edu   *            - Who Knows!!!            *
*                     *              Anyone?? Anyone??       *
**************************************************************

If it's a raincoat why does it have to be dry cleaned?
        - Some Guy on some comody show
From: ricks@odin.isc-br.com (Rick Schaeffer 99)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: 2.1 Kernel bug workaround..??
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:54:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <Bt3y6p.7Bn@cs.columbia.edu> won@cs.columbia.edu (Won Y. Kim) writes:
>
>Every program that I run seem to eat up and never return some of the swap 
>space. (via swap -s)
>

I've located a "memory leak" in the code for both the DMI Resolver and
A2410.  Are you perhaps using one of these cards?  
I've also found and fixed quite a few other bugs in the support for these
cards and have been reporting them to Commodore.  Some of them appeared
on the 2.1 patch disk and the most recent should be on the next disk
if-and-when :-(  

In the meantime, I'm unsure just what to do with these patches.  Anyone
have an idea of a place that I can ftp them to?  I would be willing
to provide diffs as well as binaries for both X11R4 and R5 to such
a site.
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