From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: GIANTS ........ ARRRRRGGGGHHH !!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:17:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.144415.25916@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
>In article <6SEP199219273412@zeus.tamu.edu> mcs4041@zeus.tamu.edu (SHARAT SHEKHAR) writes:
>>
>>	is it time to fire Handley or what ??!!
>>
>>	How the fuck could a team that won a superbowl 2 seasons ago (and that
>>goal line defense that stuffed the niners at the 1 yd line was a reminder) end
>>up in this sort of fucking mess .............
>>
>
>Sure, age! Did you see how LT was man-handled all day. Or when they let him
>go, Steve Young just ran around him and got outside? Excepting that one
>Giant lineman (think his name was Howard), the rest of the giants defensive
>line and linebackers played pretty poorly. Luckily for the giants, Jerry
>Rice was so rusty that his penalities whiped out his TD and a 50 yard pass
>to Taylor. Haily shot the 49ers defense in the foot too, getting several
>calls against him for lack of brains (offside on a punt that gave the
>Giants a 1st down & resulted eventually in a Giant TD). Then he was called
>for having too much fun after sacking Simms and gave up a 15 yard penalty.
>
>Despite winning the 49ers looked rough and the giants looked old and slow.
>
>What I want to know is did anyone think the 49ers would have a running back
>who could gain a 100+ yards on the ground against the vaunted Giants defense?
>Wow!!!! Way to go Waters.
>
Just a point here, the GIANTS are using a new defensive schema this year,
which ask the the LB's and DB,s to basically react to what the offence is 
doing, meaning they have to think more. Thus their reaction is alittle
slower, the 9ers seems to exploit this alot sunday. In fact, I can almost
garantee the sucess rate of the 9ers play-action passes were about 90%
sucessful.
As for Watters performance sunday, No offense to him, but, come'on guys
we are talking about basically a rookie here that slice up the GIANTS 
defense here , were are not talking about a Sanders, E.Smith or a T.Thomas
any running back would have had a good day against the GIANTS 'D sunday.
As example note the preseason game against the Steelers, even RB's that
were cut from the steelers squad looked liked all-pro against the GIANTS 'D.
Another example is how Mark Collins played against Jerry Rice. Collins always
play Rice very agressive (bump & run as well a man-to-man) but Rod Rust
defense has him laying off his man, and thats all Rice needs is to have
alot of room in front of him.
Most of the Defensive players here openly object to the new scheme.

Tom:
All I'm saying to you, and 9er fans, is don't use the GIANTS game as a measuring
stick for the niner offense. The GIANTS Defense is not the one youre use
to seeing (even last year). Rod Rust (GIANTS current Def. Corrd.) is trying
to implement a AFC type defense (finesse) on guys built (+200lb CB) to
play NFC East type defense,which is an agressive, run-stoppin, dare-you-to-pass
type defense (i.e Smash-nose).

IMO, Rod Rust system is basically simular to what Bud Carson (Eagles) have,
but, what Carson did was, in his first year he did not try to force his
scheme on his players all at once but gradeually implement it. He got
virtualy no resistance from the players and in 2 years time, His scheme
is working great. RoD Rust tried to convert the GIANTS (which been using
their defence for abpout 10 years) defense within a 6 week period, and
because of this the GIANTS will get, at least the next 6 weeks, their
butt kicked up and down the field 8{[.

			RIC. IRVIN
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