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From: young@serum.kodak.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Do "deodorant rocks" contain aluminum?
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:49:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Aug31.214917.26089
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <Btv5Ax.J7C@unx.sas.com> sasjcs@canoe.unx.sas.com (Joan Stout) writes:
>
>In article <16476@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, peerson@neyman.ucdavis.edu (Jan Peerson) writes:

[...]

>|> She would like to get away from aluminum-containing anti-perspirants,
>|> but does not know if the effective ingredient of this rock is
>|> aluminum.
>|> 
>|> Has anyone ever heard of this?  Thanks in advance for your answers.
>
>My SO is allergic to most deodorants, and he uses one of those rocks.
>It works very well for him. However, I don't know what the ingredients
>are or how it works. I plan to try one when my current supply of the 
>other stuff runs out. 8-)

	I just called my friend who's a manager at one of the local GNC
	stores; she says that the ingredient list on one of these deodorant
	rocks is: "mineral salts and potassium alums."

	My friend also said that several people (not necessarily at this
	store) have reported allergic reactions to these rocks and that,
	given a known allergy to aluminum salts in deodorants, she would
	not even recommend trying one.  For those people that have no
	trouble with other deodorants, the rocks should cause no problem.

	Now, I'm no chemist, but the name "potassium alums" sounds a lot
	like it's really one of the potassium aluminosilicates, or potassium
	aluminum silicates, or maybe a potassium aluminum sulfate.  In any
	case, it almost certainly has aluminum in it.  All of these potassium
	compounds are found in nature as various minerals such as orthoclase
	and muscovite.

	Also, the cryptic "mineral salts" may well be aluminum salts.  MY
	humble advice would be that no one will avoid aluminum in their
	deodorant by buying one of these rocks...at least not the one from
	GNC that gave us that ingredient list!

	REFERENCE: CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, 70th edition.


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: unc health care study
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:05:34 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Sep1.104.99729@dosgate> nigel.allen@canrem.com (Nigel Allen) writes:
>
>Here is a press release from the Clinton/Gore Campaign.
> 
Why do we have to put up with this garbage in sci.med?
The democrats had an opportunity to nominate a candidate
who had some fiscal integrity in Paul Tsongas (and I voted
for him).  Unfortunately, they seem to have nominated this
slick jerk who is running as Santa Claus.  The sad fact is
either he or Bush will be elected.  We are in bad trouble,
folks.
-- 
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Gordon Banks  N3JXP      | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  it is shameful to surrender it too soon." 
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: mdicker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Dickerson)
Subject: Re: Experimentation and teaching on non-patients
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 19:45:39 GMT



Thank you to those people who answered my question(s) here and in
emails.  I will forward this information to my friend who I'm sure
will be glad to have it.
I now know that volunteering is not required though explicitly
or thorugh "pressure" to look willing in the eyes of the professor
doing the study.  But at one point, I had read a book on medical
ethics, whcih seemed to imply that such things were common adn that
stuents felt pressure to volunteer for sometimes what were ven
(oops even, not ven) dangerous proceedures.  The one discussed in
the ethics book was an experiment dealing with cardiovascular
fitness - I didn't get the jist of it because I wasn't knowledgable
enough, but it was apparently to study the effects of various things
on heart beat rates under certain levels of work, etc.  Apparently
several of the subjects suffered adverse effects to this test and
it prompted an investigation.  But I am glad (as she will be) that
this is not a common occurrence in medical schools.
Thanks again for the information about my question.

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: wisdom teeth removal
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 04:02:45 GMT

robert@unlv.edu (Robert Cray) writes:

>In article <1992Sep2.201710.2688@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep2.165812.25685@unlv.edu> robert@unlv.edu (Robert Cray) writes:
>>>pain and rode my bike 7 miles to school that day (I was told not to drive).  
>>
>>Yikes!  Lucky you didn't fall off...
>>
>>Surely riding a bike in traffic requires at least as good coordination
>>as driving.
>>

>I should clarify - I think I could also have safely driven a car, my
>coordination was fine.  But had I been in an accident things might have
>been difficult from a legal point of view.  As it was I was only risking
>my own neck, and I don't think I was even doing that.

>                                                --robert

Actually, in Lincoln, NE if you are caught riding a bicycle (yes, bicycle, 
*not* just a car or motorcycle) you can be arrested for dwi.

No joke.

This actually happened to one of my profs.

Sharon O'Neil
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: ashok@kpc.com (Ashok Yerneni)
Subject: tele # of the foundation for IBD related issues
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:58:00 GMT


Sometime back, there was a posting on the net regarding a foundation
that specifically dealt with Chron's, Ulcerative colitis and other
IBD related diseases. Could you post the name of the foundation
and the telephone number please?

thanks

Ashok
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: nichols@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Pat Nichols)
Subject: Re: wisdom teeth removal
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:29:52 GMT

In <KPC.92Sep1172935@zog.arc.nasa.gov> kpc@pluto.arc.nasa.gov (k p c) writes:

>does anybody have any wisdom to offer to a 27 year old who has to have
>all 4 wisdom teeth removed?

>(it's actually a suggestion, by a dentist who noticed 3 cavities, to
>have all 4 teeth removed by an oral surgeono)
 
I am definitely not an expert but have experience with wisdom teeth.
My dentist suggested removing my perfectly healthy wisdom teeth because
they would be too difficult to take care of properly.  I resisted for
several years, taking special care to brush and floss them, but
eventually agreed to have them removed to save me problems in the
future.  For me, this was relatively painless, so was no problem.

Interestingly, this past year I lost a different molar, and was
investigating an implant.  The oral surgeon wanted to know if I had any
wisdom teeth because he could transplant one rather than using an
implant and I guess he thought this would be preferable.  I was pretty
unhappy then that I had gotten rid of my "useless" wisdom teeth.  I
told my dentist about this and he was surprised because he had never
heard of that idea.

I guess, in my case, where there really was nothing wrong, I should
have remembered the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Of
course, if they were causing any real problem, then I wouldn't hesitate
getting them removed.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: mark@lowton.rn.com (Mark Powell)
Subject: Doctor's hours
Organization: Mark-one Communications
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 01:47:51 GMT


My girlfriend took up a House Officer position, here in the UK,
3 weeks ago. Her hours are completely ludicrous. In addition to
the basic 76 hours/week that they are supposed to spend, she
just finished an "on-call" over the weekend, she was on the
ward for 60 hours continuously!!
   Has anyone any observations on what this sort of stint would
actually do to someone. I can't begin to imagine what it must be
like. You may stay up all night at a party and be tired the
next day, but you don't mind too much, because that was your
choice. 60 hrs though, this must be unhealthy.
-- 
Mark Powell

mark@lowton.rn.com				Home:	+44 942 714317
uunet!ibmpcug!jshark!lowton!mark		Nr. Manchester, UK.
Newsgroups: sci.med
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: UGH.
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:27:01 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20In-Reply-To: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu's message of 27 Aug 92 17:54:02 GMTLines: 21

In <16222@pitt.UUCP> km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu writes:
> 
> Actually, one of the big differences between this newsgroup
> and many others is that there is no underlying "understanding"
> or orientation that is shared among readers. People who
> subscribe to the amateur radio newsgroups, for example, are
> people who are interested in  amateur radio, and you don't
> get many "I hate amatuer radio" postings.

heh, heh. :^)

i don't know about the amateur radio newsgroup, but you oughtta read soc.women
sometime [feminist-bashing] or misc.legal [lawyer-bashing] or alt.uu.future
[usenet university bashing].  i don't even post to the *.phil.* groups anymore
(philosophy, in which i have a ph.d.) -- if you say anything that implies that
you've ever read a philosophy book, you get flamed for being an "elite
academic" & your e-mail is bombarded with professor-bashing junk for a week.

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
From: jgt10@uts.amdahl.com (John G. Thompson)
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
Subject: Re: Progressive nearsightness from CRT use
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:45:35 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:


>If you are myopic enough to wear corrective lenses, there's a simple 
>solution to the problem of worsening vision--get hard contact lenses. 
>They are supposed to prevent your vision from continuing to worsen. 
>(Is this really true?)

It is relatively true.  The hard lens halts any change in the curvature
of the cornea, and thus most of the changes in your vision.  Changes
can still occur in the lens of the eye such as cataracts and 
stiffening.  I had hard lenses for a few years and I noticed that
my prescription did not change.  I also had gas permeable lenses and
had the same effect for the same reason.

>Gas-permeable hard lenses are supposed to be more comfortable than the 
>old-style hard lenses, which I found intolerable, and I've heard they 
>can accomplish the same sort of prevention. Doesn't this mean that
>we should put our children in these, instead of glasses, when they
>first develop problems? (Gosh, if my parents could have done this for 
>me when I was eight, maybe I'd be able to see SOMETHING without 
>corrective lenses now!)

Eye professionals are not likely to prescribe contact lenses to anyone
who is still growing.  I am not real clear on the reasons but it has to
do something with the eye and body still growing.

-- 

John G. Thompson        Amdahl Corporation      jgt10@uts.amdahl.com 
  KD6KID                P.O. Box 3470 MS 340    {sun,uunet}!amdahl!jgt10
#include <disclamer.h>  Sunnyvale, CA 94088     1-408-737-5708

Go ahead, flame me...I've got heavy duty surge protectors.
-- 

John G. Thompson        Amdahl Corporation      jgt10@uts.amdahl.com 
  KD6KID                P.O. Box 3470 MS 340    {sun,uunet}!amdahl!jgt10
#include <disclamer.h>  Sunnyvale, CA 94088     1-408-737-5708

Go ahead, flame me...I've got heavy duty surge protectors.
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
From: XOPR81@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Keith Azuma)
Subject: (+contacts)
Organization: Motorola
Date: 25 Aug 1992 13:52:09 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
Subject: Re: Progressive nearsightness from CRT use
Date: 25 Aug 1992 16:00:14 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


If you are myopic enough to wear corrective lenses, there's a simple
solution to the problem of worsening vision--get hard contact lenses.
They are supposed to prevent your vision from continuing to worsen.
(Is this really true?)*** no!  it slows it down somewhat..but the
eyestrain from working with c.r.t.'s continues..  could try your
contacts PLUS "100x" reading glasses--available at drugstore. ***


Gas-permeable hard lenses are supposed to be more comfortable than the
old-style hard lenses, which I found intolerable, and I've heard they
can accomplish the same sort of prevention. Doesn't this mean that
we should put our children in these, instead of glasses, when they
first develop problems? (Gosh, if my parents could have done this for
me when I was eight, maybe I'd be able to see SOMETHING without
corrective lenses now!)

**** i use the gas-permeable lenses....the doc said that i was
     too near-sighted to use the "soft" contacts or extended-wear
     lenses, which would have been more convenient.   ****

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
_________________________________________________________________________
The Republican platform calls for the extension of the 14th amendment to
 "unborn children." Saving the life of a woman with an ectopic pregnancy
would thus require deliberate murder of the embryo--which the state could
   not possibly then allow. About 1% of U.S. pregnancies are ectopic.
From: tower@raisin-nut.ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
Subject: Re: FAQ: Typing Injuries
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:32:00 GMT
Organization: ~/.mail-plain.cf

In article <1992Aug23.060819.26355@morrow.stanford.edu> jon@oas.stanford.edu (Jon Claerbout) writes:
|
|My problem is my right wrist.
|
|The problem is aggravated by the wrist twisting
|involved in typing the RETURN key.
|
|A simple solution for me is to type control-M
|instead of RETURN.

Neat hack.  I often type C-[ for the ESC key on terminals where it
located in Outer Mongolia.  TAB is C-i.  etc.

But it sounds as if you have bad typing habits.  A good touch typist
doesn't move the lower arms or wrists much at all, but just the
fingers.  To hit the return key you should reach right (usually from
the home position on the key to the right of "l") with the pinky of
the right hand to the return key, tap it just hard enough to activate
and move the pinky back.

Touch Typing classes aren't hard to come by.  Check your local H.S.
out.  Or get a good touch typing text or program and try teaching
yourself.

enjoy -len

Member of the League for Programming Freedom.
Ask <league@prep.ai.mit.edu> via e-mail for information.
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
From: trn@warper.jhuapl.edu (Tony Nardo)
Subject: Re: Progressive nearsightness from CRT use
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date:  3 Sep 92 12:19:02 GMT

beal@paladin.owego.ny.us (Alan Beal) writes:

>tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd) writes:

>>pcalvert@nyx.cs.du.edu (P. Calvert) writes:

>>>Actually, people with good vision that is starting to deteriorate (e.g.
>>>mild myopia) can reduce the stress of close-up work by wearing a weak pairr
>>>of reading glasses.

>>Sorry I missed this strain -- is there a consensus among programmers about
>>progressive myopia?  I was *stunned* the other day when my 2nd exam in a row
>>showed progressive myopia.  I am well over 20 (the age when myopia progression
>>slows) and have always enjoyed super-normal vision.  

>I am over 30 and my myopia has progressed ever since I started working with
>computers over 9 years ago.  About 5 years ago, my eye doctor recommended
>using a weaker pair.  Although my myopia is still getting worse, I am less
>tired after wearing the weaker glasses all day.

Hmmm, I'm starting to feel like the exception to the rule...

I am also over 30.  I've been working with CRTs at least part time since '78
and full time since '82.  I had progressive myopia before starting my career
with computers.

Over the span of my computer career, my rate of vision decline has slowed,
stopped, and even somewhat reversed itself.  My prescription is now back to
its '82 level.


Some things which I've been doing that *may* be helping: taking short breaks
from the CRT at least once per hour; taking a few seconds to focus on remote
objects in the room/lab every few minutes; sitting back from the CRT and using
a small font (my vision corrects to better than 20/20, so I take advantage of
the improvement!); and having a UV coating on my glasses.  Perhaps something
in that mix above is working to offset the problems of over-exposure to CRTs.

(Some of the above suggestions, BTW, came from watching a story on the impact
of VDUs [Visual Display Units] on journalists as on-line article composition
became more prevalent in that work environment -- advice from near the start
of my full-time career.  The "refocusing" suggestions were offered as a means
to avoid eye strain.)
--
Tony Nardo,		   INET: trn@warper.jhuapl.edu, trn@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
 Johns Hopkins Univ./APL   UUCP: {backbone!}mimsy!aplcomm!trn
From: johnl@forthd.uucp (John Lebert)
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
Subject: Re: Progressive nearsightness from CRT use
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:24:25 GMT
Reply-To: johnl@espace
Organization: Fourth Dimension, Portland OR

In article <tertium.715390214@milton>, tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd) writes:
> pcalvert@nyx.cs.du.edu (P. Calvert) writes:
> 
> 
> Trouble is that the weakest pair of over the counter glasses is +1.25 D glasses
> and that's too much for some. 
> 
> Sorry I missed this strain -- is there a consensus among programmers about
> progressive myopia?  I was *stunned* the other day when my 2nd exam in a row
> showed progressive myopia.  I am well over 20 (the age when myopia progression
> slows) and have always enjoyed super-normal vision.  
> 
> The opthamologist said that this is an ongoing debate in opthamology.  Pity.
> If I am required to work in conditions that are going to affect my long-term
> health, the I think I ought to get some compensation.  As it is now, eye-strain
> and myopia are not allowed by worker's comp.
> 
> lauren

I have always had myopia. I have been sitting behind screens for 10-16 hours
a day for about 9 years. Most of the time with CRT's you could probably use
as X-ray machines. I had an eye exam about 7 months ago, my first in 
5 or 6 years. I was told that there was almost *no* change in my vision.
I have noticed lately though that when I am driving at night, there are
big halos around all the lights. I am going to an opthamologist to have 
this checked, as it is one of the signs of glaucoma, which is probably
not related to CRT usage.
	
	John
From: u9147063@cs.uow.edu.au (Richard Barry Ling)
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
Subject: Re: Typing Injuries - Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
Keywords: Cubital, Ulnar, Nerve, Keyboard
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:58:30 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

acm@Sun.COM (Andrew MacRae) writes:

> Wouldn't it be nice to be able to have more than one keyboard and pointing
> device on your machine and to be able to take those devices and plug them
> into any computer?  <sigh>

It would be, but would be difficult to standardise since all keyboards have
different FKeys, numeric keypads etc., and some stupid companies still
insist on making their "pointing devices" with only one damned button. :-)

>						Andrew MacRae
________________________________
Richard.  u9147063@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
From: kenj@kambo.wpd.sgi.com (Ken ``Blackfur'' Jones)
Subject: Silicon Valley-area RSI treatment recommendations?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:58:27 GMT


Hello.  I'm in *immediate* need of finding a doctor/clinic in the
Silicon Valley area (anywhere near Mt. View/Sunnyvale) to examine me
for my RSI.  I just called my contracting agency to file a worker's
compensation claim, and I need to find a good place to visit.

The client I work for uses the Peninsula Industrial Clinic, but I've
heard from one person who's gone there that the clinic is more
"short-term" oriented than "long-term."  I also spotted a reference
to the Repetitive Motion Institute at Santa Clara Valley Medical
Center in San Jose.  I was wondering whether you had heard anything
about the quality of care there and whether they accept worker's comp
cases.  If you know of anybody who has been treated there and is
willing to share their experiences, I'd appreciate a pointer.

Thanks for your help!

- Ken Jones (kenj@sgi.com)
  Silicon Graphics
  Mt. View, CA
From: tower@raisin-nut.ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
Newsgroups: sci.med.occupational
Subject: Re: Eye strain among programmers
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:19:49 GMT
Organization: GNU Project

In article <tertium.714333371@milton> tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd) writes:
|
|Anyone els have a problem with eye strain?  A few weeks ago, a light went out
|in my office, which, btw, is a 10x10 former closet with *8* flourescent
|lights in the office.

Turn the fluorescent off.

Get several incandescent lamps and use them to spot light the areas
you really need light.  Swing arm lamps work well, if you need light
in different places at different times.

Instead of regular light bulbs, you might try plant bulbs or full
spectrum bulbs.  They cost more, but help some people.

If you use a keyboard and monitor, light the wall behind the monitor.

Position the monitor so light from outside the room doesn't bounce off
the screen.  Such glare can cause a lot of extra eye strain.

If you have a window, try closing the blinds.  Try keeping your door
mostly closed, and/or getting the fluorescent fixtures outside your
office dimmed or turned off.

If you work on something at the same distance, refocus your eyes every
15 to 20.  Look at least 10 feet away for 30 seconds, then at the tip
of your nose for 30 seconds.  

You can also just close you eyes and cover them with your palms.  Rest
the heel of your palms on you cheekbones so that the palms don't
actually touch the eyes, avoiding pressure on them.  If you do it
right, there should be almost no difference in perceived light with
your eyelids open or closed.  Your eyes need rest, just like the rest
of you!

good luck -len