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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:56:00 CDT
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From:         "Don M. Wee/Loyola Univ Chicago" <$ACSDMW@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CONTROLLING PC'S

The division of Intel that makes LANspool and LANsight also have a
less well-known product called LANschool (once known as PC Chalkboard
before LAN Systems bought the product...which was before Intel bought
LAN Systems).  We've been using it sporadically since the PC Chalkboard
days.  Works fine in text mode with all screens of the same type.
  The idea is that one person logs into the Novell LAN as TEACHER1
and everyone who logs in as STUDENT1 can hotkey between working locally
and seeing TEACHER1's screen in their own...TEACHER1's screen is
broadcast to his/her students.  The next classroom over can have more
students running STUDENT1 or they can be running STUDENT2 and watching
TEACHER2's screen.
  It's got a few other bells and whistles we never use...like letting
the teach say "Oh, what station 4 is doing will interest the rest of
the class...I'll peek in and re-broadcast that screen to the whole
class."
  BIG resource hog...if Classroom A and Classroom B are on the same
ring or segment and A is running LANschool, people in B take forever to
log in to the server...just because the wire is near saturation.
  We generally use this only if the classrooms with big monitors
mounted on the wall are tied up and we need a quick and dirty substitute
....on a much more regular basis, we use LAN Assist from Fresh
Technologies to let one station peek at another station (and do remote
control). However, we don't have FACULTY using LANassist...that is
used by lab consultants to advise students how to clear an error message
or decipher some obscure menu option.
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Don M. Wee   Loyola University Chicago   BITNET: $ACSDMW@LUCCPUA

> I am looking for software that will enable a faculty member to take control of
> a classroom or just one machine at a time from a central computer in that
> classroom.
> I would also hope that it would be able to have several classrooms on the
> network at one time.
> Could you give me any suggestions, they would be much appreciated.
> Thanks for your help.
>                              Michael Ryan
>                    Programmer/Tech  Network Specialist
>                            miker@cc.snow.edu
>                              Snow College
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:32:11 EDT
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From:         PST%YARS.UUCP.FREE@SUEARN2.BITNET
Subject:      PROBLEMS WITH E-MAIL INTRA/INTER LAN

	I WANT TO INSTALL ANY E-MAIL SYSTEM IN THE LAN IN ORDER
TO SERVE THE LAN USERS AND PROVIDE THE E-MAIL ENTRY TO EARN/BITNET
NODE ( BASED ON IBM 370 ANALOQUE WITH VM/SP OS ).
	I'LL BE VERY OBLIGED  FOR ANY ADVICE AND REFERENCES ON
THE SUBJECT .
	BEST REGARDS FROM YAROSLAVL,
				ANDREW Y. LEVIN
			LAN SUPERVISOR, PST-YARUNI
			PST,KOMSOMOLSKAYA STREET,2
			YAROSLAVL,150000, RUSSIA .
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:00:14 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Setting up Windows on Lab Machines

>       <much removed>
>>         But swap space is the point, to allow large Windows programs to
>> be loaded simultaneously. In an 8MB system, allocating 4BM for a RAM disk
>> and 4MB as expanded memory, and assigning the RAM disk as swap, then we let
>> Windows (and it's client programs) access all 8 MB in a flexible manner.
>> Without the swap space Windows would have available only the 4MB of non-RAM
>> disk for programs. With swap pointed at the RAM drive then free space on it
>> is availble to Windows. Also, using only a small RAM drive sacrifices work
>> space when outside of Windows.
>
>
>Perhaps I am missing the point here, and I personally do not know the details
>of how, exactly, windows uses the expanded/extended memory it owns, but it
>seemed to me that Brad Willcott's point was that it was more efficient and
>direct to let windows use the 4 mb in question as its own, rather than
>fooling it into believing it is disk space (and thus adding ram-drive
>overhead).  You wouldn't be losing (as I understand it) 4 megabytes of
>memory, you would just be providing it more directly to windows (for use, I
>assume, as program space, or whatever Windows deems appropriate--this would
>seem to me to be the most flexible solution, since the RAM disk appropriates
>NO memory when you are not in windows...).
>
>As I mentioned, I may not be understanding Joe D's point, but this was
>confusing to me.
>
>
>George H. Payne
>Uva Law Library
>ghp5h@pcmail.uva.virginia.edu
-------------
        Let me try again.
        Situation: client with 8MB trying to run Windows across the net.
I recommended 4MB as a RAM disk, the other 4MB as eXpanded memory. And I
recommended pointing the Windows swap file at the RAM disk, but another person
says use no swap file.
        Without the swap file Windows has 4MB to play with, the expanded memory
stuff. With the swap file Windows has 4+4MB to play with, minus the contents
of the RAM drive for user programs. The spillover into the RAM drive is when
Windows is loaded enough to need the space.
        I recommended 4MB RAMdrive to give user as much work space as possible.
An alternative suggestion was voiced to allocate 1MB to RAMdrive and 7MB to
Windows. This alternative gives Windows 7MB to play with, and the user has
a 1MB max RAM disk outside of Windows.
        Since my users take precedence over Microsoft I allocate the 4MB RAM
disk, and to permit loading lots of stuff into Windows I let Windows grab
unused parts of the RAM drive (via pointing the swap file) when the need
arises.
        That's the story in a nutshell.
        Joe D.
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:54:40 EDT
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From:         HOWARD@FS1.PSY.EMORY.EDU
Subject:      appletalk printing problems

I need some help!  We have a 486 server with netware 3.11 that also
runs mac nlms (3.01) and nfs.  For six months, our postscript laser
printers (apple iints and nec 2 890's) hung off local talk network
connected directly to the server's dl2000 card.  This worked
beautifully.  Recently, we moved to a new building
and decided to forgo appletalk wiring in the new building.  Instead,
all laser printers are connected to dayna etherprint boxes which in
turn are connected to ethernet.  Now we have big trouble.  If we use
phaseII ethertalk, the printers appear and disappear from the chooser
of macs and the server cannot establish links to these printers.  If
we switch to Phase I, then we can print but the print is very slow.
Our ethernet is a huge campus wide network with many mac servers,
gator boxes, and such hanging off of it.  One theory about our
problem is that other mac servers have bad router data that is
in conflict with the novell server.

Anyone had a similar problem?  If so, how did you fix it?

Thanks for any help.


Howard Rollins                      Phone: 404-727-7437
Department of Psychology            Email: howard@fs1.psy.emory.edu
Emory University                           or
Atlanta, Ga 30322                          psyhar@unix.cc.emory.edu
                                           or
                                           psyhara@emuvm1.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:22:09 MDT
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From:         Rich Brown <rbrown@DIJKSTRA.UNIVNORTHCO.EDU>
Subject:      Charon 2.0a
X-To:         Novell%SUVM.Bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu

Are there any special steps required to install Charon 2.0a on a 3.11
Novell server?

The directions are written for 2.15.  I followed them but get the
error "Warning: Attach failed with error 0xXX for Queue my_queue_name"
The manual says that:
	1. the error code is a hex NOvell error code - I get
	   only 2 decimals na dit is different each time???
	2. the error is usually caused by servers being inhibited
	   from attaching (I checked and I'm OK on this one) or
	   print server not listed as a server for this queue (
	   also OK, as far as I can tell)

Anyone out there have any experience with this?

Thanks in advance.

Rich Brown
rbrown@dijkstra.UnivNorthCo.edu
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From:         Michael Glass <mikeg@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      LWP w/DEPCA
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.EDU

Someone in our organization has purchased a DEC 433pc and is interested in
running LAN Workplace for DOS.  Of course it has a DEPCA Ethernet card and
NDIS drivers.  To my knowledge there is not an ODI driver available for this
hummer.  So I presume the only feasible way to do this is to run ODI over
NDIS, or ODI over packet driver.

My thought is that the more reliable implementation would likely be ODI over
NDIS.  I know about ODINSUP for NDIS over ODI.  Is it possible to do ODI over
NDIS or should I try to live with ODI over packet driver ?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Glass, SW Engineer              e-mail: mikeg@cac.washington.edu
Computers & Communications               voice: 543-0625
Client Services                            fax: 543-3909
University of Washington                    ms: HG-45
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From: rop@HACKTIC.NL (Rop Gonggrijp)
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Date: 14 Aug 92 22:29:24 GMT
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DANB <DANB.BRANTON2@MHSGW.HARVARD.EDU> writes:

> I just downloaded 311pt7.zip from netlab2 [...]

Where is netlab2 ?  I'd like to have this......
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From: ken_weiss1@MAILGW.SURG.MED.UMICH.EDU (Ken Weiss)
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Subject: Re: Command Line Password
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:54:45 GMT
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 Reply to:     RE>Command Line Password
The way that I have gotten around this is to create a text file with the
password in it and a cr/lf(Just used copy con).  Then, said

login server/user < textfile name

This works BUT, if your station is not secure somebody can find out your
password very easily.

Ken Weiss
Computer Systems Consultant
The University of Michigan
Department of Pharmacology
Department of Human Genetics
ken.weiss@med.umich.edu

< all the standard disclaimer hubub>


----------------------------
       A quick, simple question :

            Can I specify an account name AND a password on the command line
            when logging into a Novell (v. 3.11) server.  Basically, can I
            do the following :

                LOGIN <SERVER>/<ACCT.NAME> <PASSWORD>           (or similar)

        Thanks....

        R. Scott Krick
        Computer Based Instruction Lab
        Medical College of Va.
        RKRICK@RUBY.VCU.EDU
        SUPERVIS@PCMAIL.CBIL.VCU.EDU

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:19:50 EDT
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From:         Dave Brookshire <david@UMBC3.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Can NFS service an ATPS queue?
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.EDU

>  Can anyone help us with the following problem? We are using Netware
>  for Macintosh v3.0 (waiting for 3.1) and we're about to install
>  the NFS NLM on a file server running Netware 3.11 with mac support.
>
>  The printers are controlled by a Unix machine which has facilities to
>  do accounting for postscript printers. The manuals for NFS and Netware
>  for Macintosh are not clear as to whether NFS can service the ATPS
>  queue in the same way that it can service an 'ordinary' Netware print
>  queue.
>
>  If this is not possible does anyone know whether Netware for
>  Macintosh 3.1 allows Mac users to print to ordinary Netware
>  queues? Also does anyone know whether 3.1 stops mac users
>  from being able to put jobs into a queue before they are logged on.

Nigel-

We have both NFS, and Charon v2.0 available to our users.  I am just now
going to try to load the MAC in conjuction with the NFS.  However, we have
been extremely successful in exporting a queue to the MACs that is serviced
by the Charon gateway.  Since Charon can do it, I would assume that NFS's
gateway could do it as well.

This function is controlled mainly by ATPS.  We currently have a line that
reads

	-o "IFSM Hewlett Packard PS" -q IFSM1POST -wb -f applwntx

Where IFSM1POST is the queue created under PCONSOLE, and serviced by the
Charon gateway.  Access (allowing ONLY logged in users) is controlled by
ATPS, not by NFS or Charon.

If I get my MAC and NFS to work together today, I will post the results.  (If
you finish this first, PLEASE, e-mail me with your results-  I'm extremely
interested in this.)  Thanks.


David
--david@umbc4.umbc.edu
  Academic Computing Services
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:37:00 EST
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From:         "Bill Lakner, IRM, The Citadel" <LAKNERB@CITADEL.BITNET>
Subject:      NW for MAC (What is the most current version?)

Fellow Netters,  I just received an update for NW and the latest MAC NLM
files.  I understand the Macintosh files have also been updated. I currently
have MAC Utilities V2.1.  What is the newest version of these files, and
if its on Novlib, what's the update called?  Please respond directly.  Many
thanks in advance....
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        Bill Lakner                     laknerb@citadel.edu
        Network Support                 laknerb@citadel.bitnet
        The Citadel, Charleston, SC
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:29:27 EDT
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From:         Joe Bouman <A400@FERRIS.BITNET>
Subject:      NCSA and NE/2

Hello again networkers:

Thanks to the responses concerning attaching NCSA via Token ring.
Works like a champ.  Thought I was on a roll, but when I ran into
a user here with a Novell NE/2 ethernet adapter in their PC, I
thought I had NCSA communicating by using the NE2000 packet driver.

My obvious question is:  has anyone gotten NCSA to communicate using a
Novell NE/2 adapter.  If so, what drivers did you use, and where did u
get them.  Thanks in advance

Joe Bouman  Systems Programmer
A400@FERRIS.BITNET
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:06:46 GMT
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From:         NOVELL@DARWIN.NTU.EDU.AU
Subject:      RE: Email in LAN
X-To:         NOVELL@suvm.acs.syr.EDU

>Hi! : We are implementing a Novell LAN using the
>PosrtableNetwork version of Data General running
>under DG/Ux 5.4. The server for the LAN is a AviioN
>computer . On the other side, we are connected to
>the Peruvian Cientific Network, a UUNET. We are
>linked to the gateway of the PCN using TCP/IP.

>I want about a software that support a link
>between both worlds. On one side, we are planning
>to use soft like cc:Mail for the email in the
>LAN and the question is how can we link this
>email to the UUCP world?....

>I would appreciate information about this.


This seems like a possible application for PEGASUS and CHARON
both of which are Public Domain. I am not familiar with your
set up, but as long as the DG system will operate as an SMTP
agent then all should be well.





Regards,



Tery Anstey
Computer Services
Northern Territory University
Darwin, NT

INTERNET: T_ANSTEY@DARWIN.NTU.EDU.AU

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From: SSROB@ECUVM1.BITNET (Rob Hudson)
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Subject: Charon 3.4 hangs
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:47:05 GMT
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I am attempting to get Charon 3.4 to run on a 80386 sx everex with a SMC
10bt card.  The pc is using odi drivers and odipkt.  The problem is whenever
I send mail via pmail to an TCP/IP Host the Charon Gateway hangs.  It can
be rebooted and it will send the mail file but when you attempt to send another
it just hangs again.  I certain that additional information is needed to solve
this problem but I am uncertain what to send. TIA

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* ROB L. HUDSON              ___   ___        SSROB@ECUVM1.BITNET     *
* SYSTEMS PROGRAMMER        |__   |     |  |  SSROB@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU *
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*                                1992         GREENVILLE, NC 27858    *
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:51:07 +0000
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From:         pcm@SYS.CSD.LE.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: LAN Support Staff Survey

On our site the number of support staff is rather vague, but for the
central Novell service  (academic year 1991/92) looked like this:

 Number of connected workstations:              about 150 (max concurrent
125)
 Number of registered accounts:                 about 4000
 Number of file servers:                        3 + 1 off site.
 Number of staff:                               2

In addition some labs had their own support staff, but these tended to hind
rather than help since they insisted on setting up machines in their way!

================================
   Paul C. Manning
   Senior Computer Officer
   Dept. of Computing Studies
   University of Leicester
   University Road
   Leicester LE1 7RH
   U.K.
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From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
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Subject: Re: NCSA and Token ring
Date: 12 Aug 92 04:38:45 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

A400@FERRIS.BITNET (Joe Bouman) writes:

>I am trying to use NCSA's Telnet product with an IBM token ring
>interface.  I have tried odi drivers using odipkt, and the native
>packet driver for IBM lan support (ibmtoken.com).  If anyone out
>there has successfully configured their token ring to work with
>ncsa, could you send me a copy of your config.sys, net.bat(order
>in which you load your network drivers), shell.cfg, net.cfg, config.tel
>and any other information you feel would be helpful.

THis is probably not the answer you're hoping for.  However, you can't
use ODIPKT with Token-Ring.  The problem is the difference in packet
types and the fact that ODIPKT does not perform packet translation for
token-ring packets.

However, the CRYNWR packet driver works just fine.  I load the two DXM
drivers from the IBM PC Network Support Program (DXMA0MOD.SYS and
DXMC0MOD.SYS) in CONFIG.SYS, telling DXMC0MOD.SYS to not open the
token-ring adapter to the network, then load IPX.COM (gen'd for PC
Network Support Program) and TOKEN.COM (which opens the adapter), and
finally {EMS|XMS}NETX.

The only problem I've had is that it doesn't seem possible to bootp
from token-ring networks, so you have to work some other method out
(e.g., individual CONFIG.TEL for each workstation) to get the work-
station specific info to Telnet/Ftp/etc.

-- 
_________________________________________________________________________
RUCS     | Mark A. Medici, Systems Programmer III, User Services Division
User     | Rutgers University Computing Services, New Brunswick, NJ 08903
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From:         "Thomas D. Gasser" <thomasg@EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      HP Laser IIISI, Macintosh, and non-postscript drivers
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Hello all,

I have a special need that I am not sure if possible.  I have a user on a
Mac IIci who is sitting next to a HP Laser IIIsi connected to the Novell
Network.  The laserwriter that he uses is down the hall.  All of our PC
users are running WordPerfect from the network printing directly to the
print queues.  They need access to both paper drawers which rules out
running full time postscript.   Since they are printing directly to the
queues there is no way to switch between postscript and PCL, since this is
done with either the capture or Nprint commands.

Is there a driver that will allow my Mac user to access the Laser in its
native PCL mode?  Fonts won't be a problem because of Truetype fonts in
SYSTEM 7.


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