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From: cantor@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor)
Subject: Re: GH: Update for Fri 11/20/92
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:30:31 GMT

In article <sf3zsFe00WBO43DngI@andrew.cmu.edu> jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Allyson Turner) writes:
>her give
>>up her career, she will. If he wants her to have baby after baby, she
>will, and
>>she is never to look at Paul again, or she will slap her face over every
>>newspaper in America.  [Give me a break. Would you take that?]
>
>Hell, no!  What she should do (but most definitely won't do) is tell
>Tracy to shove it, walk out and then tell Ned herself.  I wouldn't worry
>about the Senator's career because, quite frankly, it's his own damn
>fault.  Besides, he's not up for reelection for six more years.  It's
>bound to have blown over by then.

	No doubt.  That's what makes this storyline so stupid to me.  There
isn't anything going on here that's interesting.  All Jenny has to lose is
Ned, and she should know Tracy will tell him eventually anyway.  She should
have actually threatened Tracy back and told her that if she breathed one
word about it to anybody or kept making her life miserable, she'd steal her
husband in a second.  Tracy's pretty dim, but I think she knows that's the
truth.


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From: doreen@svl.cdc.com (Doreen Kasson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Is Salem short on people?
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:44:47 GMT

First of all, I was jumping up and down when I saw Marcus on Friday's
show -- which brings me to my first point...

Goodness, but Bo and Carly are becoming professional godparents these
days.  Okay, so I can kinda understand why Jenn would want Carly as
godmother (being her verybestfriendintheworld), but why in the world
would Jack pick Bo?  They are not particulaly close.  I don't know too
much about the rules/laws pertaining to christenings, but I'm assuming
that the godparents don't have to be married to each other (hence Bo
and Carly).  But, why couldn't Marcus be a godparent (since he was
Steve's best friend) or even John (Jack was in fact very close to the
Izzy monster).  Very confusing.

Next, is there but one and only one psychiatrist in Salem?  Someone
was complaining that they needed a good doctor to look into Kimberly's
condition and only the wonderful Marlena could be of help.  Now, I
would think that in a touchy situation like this, the police would not
only want a doctor in on this case right away, but would not want any
family members involved (conflict of interest).

... Now, just give Marcus a REAL storyline!

-- Papayayaya

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From: judim@wes.on.ca (Judi Mota)
Subject: Re: Y&R Brad & Lauren?! (Do they know...!) 
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:24:44 GMT

In article <By13yC.7rw@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>
>>Do you think anyone will mention to either Brad or Lauren that they could
>>contact HIV - the virus that causes AIDS?  :)
>
>Ahhhh...but they're not fifsixseventeen and "in luuuuuuuuuuv".
>
>Remember -- anyone not "the young" is immune on this show.  1/2 :-)
>
>--
> Mike Reaser, Hewlett-Packard N. Amer. Response Center - Atlanta

Oh!  I get it now.  "The Young" have to be responsible and intelligent and
"The Restless" can do whatever they can possibly get away with!

Judi (sometimes I miss these things) Mota
From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: comments
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:11:00 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom) writes:


>Is it me or do I get the feeling that Ryan and Victoria's marriage will come 
>to an abrupt end?  Ryan keeps stressing that this was all Victoria's idea and
>he'll leave if she wants him to.  Does he even like her?  What's he hiding?
>I can see Nina trying to interfere with their marriage.

>Is it me or does Ryan look very short?  He was standing next to Vicky during
>the confrontation with Nikki and Victor and I swear he only looked like he
>was about 5'3".  Anyone care to add anything?
>-- 
>Brian T Odom

>"We are all manufacturers -- some make good, others make trouble, and still
>others make excuses."




bviously they are leading up to something where
Ryan goes to Nina, but I never could
see how Ryan has any feelings for Victoria, he
also to me seems emotionless and in the
beginning when he was sleepign with Nina and going with
Victorias he was only going with her for'
the potential of POWER,  it makes no sense
to me either--there is going to be some
kind of end soon as fara s I can see
From: amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp)
Subject: Re: DOOL:  how did Vivian sucker Victor
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:16:41 GMT

I wrote:
>>How did Vivian sucker Victor into helping her escape with Nicky?
>>Or is he really suckered into it?  Isn't he the one who's big
>>on knowing his kids?
>>
>
> Rick Morris replied:
>Oh old Vic wasn't suckered the way I saw it.  She told him she
>didn't want Nicky to find out who his real father was, and Vic
>remembered Bo's difficulty with the same thing.  But I could see
>in his eyes that he wasn't suckered....Gotta love Vic!

Well, that's true that Bo had a hard time finding out his real father...
but Victor and Caroline always knew that Bo was theirs, and they made
the decision to withhold the information...well maybe Victor didn't
know for sure, but whatever.  Lawrence & Carly had their kid STOLEN
from them...the new, moral Victor certainly couldn't condone that.
Either he's got something up his sleeve, or there's some big
incongruity here...I don't buy the bit about Bo.
-- 
Amy Moseley Rupp			Mother to Elizabeth AnneMarie,
amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com		born 11/4/92 
(512) 329-7117				

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From: nrudins@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Nancy Rudins Cray Operations)
Subject: Re: Y&R:  Olivia
Originator: nrudins@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:05:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.140415.2125@rd.hydro.on.ca> crobshaw@rd.hydro.on.ca (Catharine Robshaw) writes:
>Does Olivia still have the cancer?  I thought she had the baby, but
>still had the cancer and had to have a hysterectomy or some surgery
>or something.  Nobody seems to have mentioned it, did she have the
>surgery already?
>
>Catharine


Yeah, Olivia still has cancer.  Nathan mentioned it during Monday's show
when they were arguing about the godfather.  I thought that for a doctor
she was acting pretty cavalier about having cancer.  I think she's
supposed to be getting a hysterectomy as well as radiation therapy but
she seems to act like she's in no hurry to get treatment.

Nancy

-- 
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"WhenIGetToTheBottomIGoBackToTheTopOfTheSlideAndIStopAndITurnAndIGoForARide
ThenIGetToTheBottomAndISeeYouAgaaaaaaaaaain!!!"    
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From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Music
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:27:15 GMT

In article <JCG+r*9o1@cecily.UUCP> rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.175836.1432@sadtler.com>, Rick Morris writes:
>
>> >They giveth, they taketh, but they like to take it   | kudra@hubcap
>> >                    away - CSNY
>>                             ^^^^
>> Now were talkin'!  See that, Tim?


I see it.  But hmmmm, I can't quite figure out this acronymn.  CSNY?
It is close to CUSM, Carter's Unstoppable Sex Machine, you know, but
not quite.  Hey!  Are these the guys from New Kids on the Block???  :)

Ok, really.  I even have a CSNY album!  It was a gift... and it's still
in the plastic.  heh heh.  :)


>     Yeah Tim!  I recognized this one right off!  Don't you listen to any
>*good* music? :-)  (Ducking fireballs!)  Hey Rick and Sallie, how about

I'll get you for that, Rose!  I probably already have, somewhere.  :-)


>those of us with non-politically correct musical taste have our own mystery
>lyric competition?


Excuse me?  Me, politically correct?  Sheeeeee- right!!!   I think not.
Of all things I've been called, and I'm sure you can imagine that they
run the gamut, politically correct has not been one of them!  Puh-lease.


>> Now, if I could only remember the song those words were in!

Talk about getting old....  He can't even figure out the song title
when it is right in the lyrics!   Tsk tsk.  :)


>     And now, introducing the first Intruguing Non-Politically Correct
                                                  sigh

>Lyric of the Week!  (Drumroll, please!)
>****************************************************************
>It surrounds me
>Moving like a sea of madness
>It controls me
>Makes me do all the things
>That I do for you
>8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
>
>Okay, send all guesses to me by Friday the 20th either at the address
>below or my alternate account, rmdelc01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu


I guess no one got it yet, huh?  Do we get the Wheel of Fortune
board soon???

>Roserooni the Guaverooni


Intriguing lyric of the week:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     "There are plenty like me to be found.
      Mongrels who ain't got a penny,
      searching for tickets like you on the ground."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road"  by  Elton John

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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp)
Subject: Re: DOOL
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:13:50 GMT

>>I wrote:
>Coleen Flanagan wrote:
>
>>callous about Jack.  For example, it really pissed me off
>>yesterday when Jack said:
>
>>Jack:	I found myself in the church looking at you,
>	thinking about how much I love and need you.
>
>>Jenn:	Well, I love you too Jack.
>
>>It wasn't what she said so much as the way she said it.
>>I guess if Steve (my hubby) were to say something like
>>that too me (actually he sometimes does, but not often)
>>it would have made me cry.  Jenn just seemed to respond
>>out of politeness, not as having just been touched with
>>emotion...kind of like a cold fish.  Now we could blame
>>this on the 'errs.  Her line could have been something
>>along this line "Jack, what a sweet thing to say!  While
>>we were standing up there, I was thinking about how
>>lucky we are to be a family, and to have Abby" etc, or
>>then again, if she would have delivered the line with a 
>>little bit of emotion, it would have been more touching.
>

>           I wish J&J's story would center less on Jen's career and
>           more on Jack's.  The Spectator use to be an integral part 
>           of the show.  Why ignore the place and business J&J first
>           met and worked at?  Enough about Jen the next Oprah!  Zzzzz.

I agree, this whole story line of Jen's new show really bites
the big one.  Jen is too much of a wimp to have her own
show...she can't even stand up to her employess, for Pete's
sake.  And yes it is quite boring.  I want some excitement
with these 2.  What they really need is an adventure!!!

>
>           ======
>           Coleen
>           ======


Cindy

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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: Erica's in the Well
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:52:44 GMT

In article <9211171637.AA13994@oracle.us.oracle.com> tburgess@us.oracle.com (I can resist anything but temptation) writes:

>Poor Edmund has lost Brooke forever so they must
>be preparing her for Tad....but I liked Edmund...

One of the previews said Tad is going to get back with Dixie. I imagine
this is what will happen, since he was about to marry her when he left.
That's *after* he gets his memory back which is when? :-) 

>Does anyone else think he could have had sparks with Erica?

You mean Edmund, right? He could possibly. God, *another* man for Erica?
When will she stop? This woman has had more men than any woman in the
world! :-) except for me, that is :-))) ha ha. 

>First Natalie in the well and Dimitri saved her...now Erica in the Cellar...
>what is this soap coming to....

Yea, it's kind of boring. I didn't watch last nite. Where have Natalie
and Trevor been? Why don't they give Opal and Palmer a storyline!! They
NEED one! These two can be so fun. 

>Although Edmund...even though I do not like the storyline played a good scene
>with Erica when she jabbered on and on...and he freaked and told her to shut
>up....

I thought Lucci's acting was good after Edmund drugged her. She played a
good limp body! :-)

I'm sure Broom Helga will cause quite a stir in Budap-esht. 

>-tia "hoping they pop the cork on this storyline really soon" burgess

I like your "pun" tia! (edmund in the wine cellar with the fine wine of
course). I don't know if he drank some yet, but that's what I'm thinking
is that he is going to get drunk and this will set something into action,
Dim will find her and try to rescue her while Edmund-O is passed out, or
she will herself. I'm guessing!

CAZ
From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: TAN: more inflatable dolls
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:52:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu



Dear Tim correctly posted about dear sister, uh, brother, uh whatever's
fettish for a life sized Ken Corday. Though he forgot to mention, that
dear androgenuos is two-timing her Ken blow-up, with her Asstin blow-up--I
mean with his/it Asstin blow-up. Oh, I am so confused. I also have received
word that she has in fact received her paste on lips and caterpiller eyebrows
and the bonus forehead. She has put in an order for a Scarrie chin as well.
Unfortunately now that classic Carrie is returning she won't be able to
recieve her special chin.

Hey dear beautiful, witty, intelligent, sexy sister Union. What do you
think pretty good there ain't it. So does this make you see fit to take
me along? I can hide in your luggage. I don't eat much. I know a little
French. I can say shit in German. Huh?

Spudnix--
-- 
Amore e 'l cor gentil sono una cosa,	   |||	 Sally A. Wilson
  si come il saggio in suo dittare pone	   |||	 Spudnix Peel
  e cosi esser l'una sanza l'altro osa     |||	 sally@mica.berkeley.edu
  com'alma razional sanza ragione.  [_Vita_Nova_ XX, Dante]
From: VECTRGSJ@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Gail Said Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL:UPDATE: Late for THU 11/19/92
Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:51:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Just a note to let you know I'll be late with this update.  I've got to watch 
the show before I can do it.  :)  I've been at COMDEX in Las Vegas the past 
couple of days.  Will try to get the update out by Monday morning.  Sorry for 
the delay this week.
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From: klong@sura.net (K.A. Long)
Subject: Re: Y&R Ashley/Nikki
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:11:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.142909.15230@wes.on.ca> judim@wes.on.ca (Judi Mota) writes:
>
>I hope this isn't taken as a flame because it's not meant to be.  Too often
>divorce is a bitter thing and the children are always the ones to suffer.

I happened to see this show and when Jack told Ash about the problem
that's exactly what Ashley said "it's always the children" and you could
see that she was either thinking about her own childhood experience (her
mom who made her feel so bad) or the fact that Vickie was so torn up
when she came to live with Ash and Victor.  I felt she had a genuine
compassion for her former step-daughter.

>Ashley and Victoria were able to communicate and I think it would be a good
>thing for Victoria to have someone as a friend instead of a parent to talk 
>to.  I knew that Victoria would go to someone else for the money and I was
>surprised it was Kaye and not Ashley.  Unfortunately what I see ahead is 
>Victor blowing his stack at Kaye and upsetting yet *another* woman on this
>show.  But maybe if he blows up at Kaye the way he has with Ashley and Nikki,

I thought of this aspect yesterday.  Another log for the fire between 
Jill and Katherine.  Jill finds out that Kay was the one and tattles to
Victor or Victor tells Jill when he finds out had and Jill tells off
Katherine.


>she might suggest he get some help.  Yikes!  I can just picture the GREAT 
>Victor Newman sitting in a counsellor's office telling the counsellor not 
>to s**** with him.
>
>And I'm curious - I'm not sure whether I want to see Victoria and Ryan be
>together (i.e. does he really love her that much) or if I want Nina and Ryan
>to be together.  What does everyone else think?  Let's do a survey!
>

I think they could separate them now and make them a lot more sympathetic
characters by showing how much the two love each other and are made miserable.
Show them sneaking around and in love until Vickie comes of age.  Get her
pregnant after about 5 months of this and then we all have to deal with
her hiding her pregnancy for a couple of months until everyone finds out.

>Judi
>
>

klong@sura.net
From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: far-away fans
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:40:13 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA

In article <1992Nov21.025010.1@acad2.alaska.edu> axpmw@acad2.alaska.edu writes:
>> Can you get AMC on one of your local TV stations?
>
>  Yes
>
>> If so, how far behind is it from the US shows (if any)?
>
>    Not behind, same day ... (might be a few hours delayed...)
>    Shows at 12noon our time... 

Thanks for the info, Pam!

Now, here's a message from one of the overseas r.a.t.s.ers, in
response to my email:


From: cathy@rses.anu.edu.au (Cathy Smither)
To: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu

Hi Margaret --

Yes, you're right.  We do get r.a.t.s in Australia, but only the articles
with 'world' distribution (or at least those without the distribution
limited to 'na').  I just started reading it again, but I've been
busy and haven't yet got around to posting on it.  I have a job now,
and I have to spend at least *some* time working on it!

I regularly read the updates (thanks again for sending them).  It's
not the same as watching it every day, but it's interesting in a
different way.  I can still picture what's going on, even if I
don't have faces to go with the actors who have started since I
left in April.  Maybe it's better this way -- I can imagine them
any way I like!

Feel free to post this if you like,

Cheers and a big g'day from Australia,

Cathy

-- 
Margaret D. Gibbs              "Practice random kindness and 
Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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From: sandra@csri.toronto.edu (sandra smith)
Subject: Y&R and B&B: Help with Sheila story
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:33:44 GMT

Can someone please, please help me understand the current Sheila storyline.
I stopped watching the Y&R regularly right after Sheila burned the farmhouse
down and ran off to L.A. and the B&B.  Now I understand that Molly is
back in L.A. with Sheila and Lauren is aware that Sheila is alive also.

Why has neither of these women called the police????  Sheila is a 
murderer, attempted murderer and kidnapper.  Maybe she has been able
to convince her mother that she is a *changed* woman, even that is a little
bit implausible, but what about Lauren?   

Thanks for any info.

sandra

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From: klswan01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: AMC: Must Edmund go to prison?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:18:38 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


Ah, but bad guys don't have to be punished if they have a MEDICAL 
PROBLEM which excuses their actions!  Remember when Adam kidnapped
Erica?  He didn't have to go to the nuthouse or to prison because he
had some kind of brain tumor or something which they cured.  There is
hope for Edmund yet!

Karen Swanson
University of Louisville
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From: afpaeji@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JIM PAE)
Subject: Re: ATWT.....somebody please help me !!
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv.soaps
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:29 EST  

In article <kathy_buetow-191192102527@physio103-1.life.uiuc.edu>, kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow) writes...
>Somebody please help........I have not seen nor taped ATWT for several
>months now and I am lost, lost, lost.  I was home from work last Tuesday 
>and I felt like I was watching a "foreign soap" !!
> 
>Hal's dead ? (sob :-(, say it isn't true !!)

Well, since you asked..."It isn't true."  Actually, SuperDick is in hiding 
while the Crime Commission plans its case agains the Harpers.  JoeBlow 
simply told Cargo and Babble that he was dead to keep them out of danger.

>Who killed Carolyn ?  (yea, I know I've been out of it for a while)

GeorgeJetson was hired by the Harpers who were hired by CabinCruiser to do 
the dirty deed.  H2D was innocent all along.

>Courtney is back to boffing Andy ? (*shudder*)

Not yet, but very sooooon!

>Lisa's son is doing Lucy (*double shudder*)...is he still 
>  doing Conner too ?

He and ConRail did the splits when she told Kirkadoodle who Scooter met 
with in New York (or some place) at a business meeting.  Juicy was trying 
to buy out one of Kirk's friends business.  Scooter found out that she 
broke his trust in her.

>What ever happened with the Margo getting raped thing ?

Well, they apprehended the guy.  His name is Nevins.  What they found out 
was that he was HIV positive when he attacked her.  As such, she has been 
dealing with the possibility of contracting AIDS>

>And this whole Holden/Lily thing...what's up there ?
> 
>Thanks in advance !!
>Kathy
>--------

tooTALL
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