HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Access to Archives?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:24:53 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug8.203551.773@dolphin.com> zac@dolphin.com (Zacharias J.  
Beckman) writes:
> Is there a means to reach the archive sites of NeXT software (i.e.:  
> sonata.cc.purdue.edu and nova.cc.purdue.edu) without FTP access?  Is  
> there an anonymous UUCP account?  Any other means?  I would very much  
> appreciate details.  Thank you!

Wow, I just answered this a few days ago here.  I'll check
the FAQ and see if it needs some polishing so I can refer
people there with more confidence.

You can get files from sonata by sending email to:

	archive-server@cc.purdue.edu

The subject can be anything you want since (normally) no
one sees it.  The body should be a list of commands.

The main one is "send", as in: 

	send next/2.0-release/source/Opener3.0.tar.Z

(which you should get if you plan to do a lot of this, BTW.)

That'll uuencode the file, split it into pieces, and mail
it to you.  You can control how this is done (like btoa
instead of uuencode or cut it in different sized chunks)
by using other commands. 

	help

Will send you a help file.  I'm rewriting this because the
current one is kind of ugly. 

The command "path" lets you change where the stuff is sent
(in case you want it to go to another account or your mailer
botches the header fields.)  I could send something to you
via the archive-server by saying: 

	path zac@dolphin.com

I hope that's enough info to get you started.  Look around
for my other posting as it was more detailed. 

As always, send Archive related mail to
archive-management@cc.purdue.edu. 

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: Does Type1 NeXT == Type1 Mac??
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:53:05 GMT

Brian Policky writes
> Does Adobe mind if fonts are converted over to the NeXT with something  
> like Metamorphasis? (Legally speaking)
> -- 
If you read the license Adobe gives out, you are licensed to use the fonts with  
1 printer/typesetter.

Thus if you have 20 nextstations and two printers, you need to buy two legal  
copies of any font you wish to use on both printers.

If you have a mac with Aardvark Extra Black on it, and you only print to the  
Next printer, then I think you are in the limits of the license to convert the  
fonts for the Next.  

If however, you have a Mac printer, then you need a new copy, and may as well  
get them in Next format already.

NOTE:  I am NOT a lawyer.  These opinions are just possibly worth less than you  
paid for them.

sgb
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Postscript Fonts
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:46:54 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Peter C. Schuyler writes
  >> I thought that New Century Schoolbook was a built in
  >> postscript font, but I don't have that for my Next.

Scott Byer) writes:
  > To fill out the basic 35 [typefaces] you can get the Adobe PlusPack.

Its a great deal. lots of standard fonts - relatively few dollars.

  > I think it's sold through RightBrain in a NeXT-native format.

Last time I checked, RightBrain didnt carry the Plus Pack,
but NeXTConnection did.  Adobe also.

-- 
---------------------------------------------------
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu   NeXT mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vhs@darkcube.radig.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Re: A "tree" command?
Reply-To: vhs@darkcube.radig.de
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 11:42:03 GMT

In article <BssECp.6LM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@yankton.ucs.indiana.edu  
(Sam Hulick) writes:
> 
> I'm looking for an MS-DOS-like "tree" command that will show all the
> directories and files in a graphical representation.  Is there a UNIX command
> that will do this, or is there a 'Tree.app' or something of the like that is
> NeXT-specific and has a better display?  Either is fine.  Thanks.

Try one of the following shell scripts:
#!	/bin/sh
#	tree - first version

case $# in
0)	DIR=".";;
1)	DIR=$1;;
*)	echo usage: $0 [directory]
	exit 1
;;
esac

find $DIR -type d -print 2>/dev/null | awk '
BEGIN { FS="/" }
{ 
	a = 1
	while ( a<NF-2 ) {
		printf "|        "
		a++
	}
	if( NF > 2 ) {
		printf "|--------"
	}
	printf "%s\n",$NF
}'
exit 0

#!	/bin/sh
#	tree - second version
direct=`pwd`
ls -aFR | grep '^\./' | sed -e '/^\.\/$/d' |
	sed -e sh\./hh -e sh:\$hh | awk -F/ "
	BEGIN {
		print \"Directory tree\n\"
		print \"$direct\n+\n|\"
	}
	{
		i = NF
		while (i > 1) {
			printf \"|    \"
			i--
		}
		printf \"+-%s/\\n\", \$NF
	}
	END {
		printf \"%d subdirectories\n\", NR
	}"
exit 0

--
Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de)

Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any
given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence.
See also: MS-DOS, Windows, IBM-PC, X, QWERTY, 80x86.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nextc.Princeton.EDU!mdd (Mark D. Doyle)
Subject: NeXTWORLD in Tampa, FL
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: mdd@nextc.princeton.edu
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:42:22 GMT

Anyone know where a friend of mine can buy a copy of NeXTWORLD in Tampa,  
Florida?

Thanks,

Mark Doyle
mdd@nextc.princeton.edu
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Keywords: "Screw you and the CD you drove in on"
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:36:21 GMT

In article <59702@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> In article <1992Aug13.055619.1064@net23.uucp> coke%net23@spectrx.saigon.com  
(Brian Policky) writes:
> > Is there an official release date for NeXTstep 3.0?
> On Friday, someone at 1-(800)Try-NeXT told me the release date is Aug 24.
> > And how long before the Universities get it?
> good question

I hate to flame, but I'm really tired of hearing this.  I
feel completely betrayed and more than a little angry.

Considering our semester starts on the 24th, the 3.0
release is really too late for me whenever it is.  I got the
impression from early news of 3.0 that I'd have it up and
running by now.  The date kept slipping and so did my chance
of using it any time soon.  

A big "Boo!  Hiss!" to missing a summer release date.  I now
either have to close our lab or wait 'til October to get the
job done right.  I'm sure other Universities have similar
situations. 

If NeXT is still aiming at higher education, they're not
hitting it very well.  Our machines should be stable and
consistent all semester long.  Making me do an upgrade
once a semester is underway is not a way to be my friend. 

I'm not opposed to coming in weekends and working late
nights to get machines upgraded and tested.  I'd just
rather do it between sessions and not when 440 users are
expecting to use our 24 hour lab.   

Allen B (Not the best NeXTperson to piss off)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: moose@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: BBS->NeXT->Mac
Reply-To: moose@svcdudes.com
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:57:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.092503.3752@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip  
McDunnough) writes:
> The Mac has this thing called MacBinary ( keeps track of file creator and
> type and the data in a separate part). If I use binary to d/l to the 
> NeXT and then move the files over to the Mac then I have to change
> the type/creator using MacTools or whatever. This almost never works in
> that .sit or .sea or .cpt files end up being corrupted. It only works 
> with .hqx (which are text files within which you find the archive).
>  
> Does anyone know how to do this? Or even better, is there a program to 
> massage the files on the NeXT before moving them to the Mac. One of
> the problems seems to be CR's and LF's. Confusing. Going the other way
> is fine (Mac->NeXT).
> 

There is a Unix utility called mcvert which will take care of this problem for  
you.  

--
Michael Rutman			|	moose@svcdudes.com
Cubist				|	makes me a NeXT programmer
Software Ventures		|	maker of MicroPhone II
#include <std.disclaimer>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Subject: HELP! NeXTBlack Spray Paint
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:21:58 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Reply-To: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
Distribution: usa

Help:
I need the part number of the NeXT-specific spray paint.
I tried Boehm Stamp and Printing. Didn't work. The Sprayon paint
is not a color (it is something you mix with color).
Can someone *who actually* painted his/her equipment
NeXTBlack please e-mail me the source of the paint.
Thank you. I thought this should be a FAQ by now!!!

--
Wassim M. Jabi                            (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard  Ann Arbor  Michigan 48105-2313
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu             NeXTMail-friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bugs@atlantis.uucp (Dan Berry)
Subject: CDROM player won't injest disks!
Organization: Atlantis Communications, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:54:02 GMT

ACK!  My basically-prestine NeXT CDROM player has stopped accepting CD's...
and I don't mean that it doesn't mount then, I mean that the mechanism for
loading the caddy into the reader is buggered up.  It simply just won't
swallow the caddy and drop it down inside for reading (despite the fact that
it seems to insert the full distance required).

I'm taking it back to be serviced (it's still within the warrantee... or is
the CDROM player a 90-day warrantee?  Hmmmm... [rummaging for manual]  Whew!
"NeXT warrants that all new hardware ... will be free from defects ...  for
one year from the date of delivery to the end user purchaser.")

...but anyhow, my question is this: has anyone else had problems of this kind?
I always thought that my spring mechanism (on my CDROM player :-) was kinda
weak.
-- 
Dan Berry == President, NeXT Edmonton Owners Network / UofA Computers Tech.
	bugs%atlantis@cs.ualberta.ca (bugs@atlantis.uucp) *** NO NeXTmail! ***
"On a first date, watch how your date treats the waiter, the bartender,
	and so on.  That's how she'll be treating YOU after three months."
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ars magna
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:10:24 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Synapse Computer Consultants
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I'm looking for a source version or at least a 2.X version of the
Ars Magna anagram making widget....does it exist?  Or in Unix format?

Ta,
Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: 3.0 Upgrade--include LISP, MATHEMATICA&IMPROV ??
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:23:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.015101.16670@scott.skidmore.edu>  
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland) writes:
> Does anyone know....you beta user types out there....
> when we upgrade to 3.0, do we still get lisp, mathematica and improv ?  
Or  
> atleast are we given an option to prevent them from being destroyed  
during  
> the upgrade process ?  Thanks

Unless they are installed in a weird place, I don't think it will touch  
them. But to make sure, run "plan upgrade" first, and then check the file,  
editting it as necessary.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
Dan Quayle needs a new running mate.
George Bush undermines his chances of being re-elected Vice President.
From: eric@pegasus.com (Eric Uyeda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for Peter Beham
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:22:16 GMT

looking for Peter Beham from Germany
Pleasle contact me by Email at eric@pegasus.com

-Eric
From: danh@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Dan Hartman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone have opinions on NeXT 17" and 21" color monitors?
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:59:31 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

The 1084 Monitor, isn't that a 640x200 non-interlaced monitor?
I would say definitely not possible.

or is that commodore's multi-sync model - I think that goes up to 1280 x 200
which still isn't enough in the vertical direction.

Then again, I may be wrong.... But I'm almost positive the 1084 is the cheapo-
one, as the  1084S was a stereo speaker version.

Later,

Dan Hartman
omv@athena.mit.edu
danh@tekig6.pen.tek.com (active untill 8/20/92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: woo@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo RAA)
Subject: Re: Help needed with mixed 1 and 4 MB SIMMS
Summary: Problem Found: Defective SIMM
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 00:07:22 GMT

Sorry for posting before a careful inspection of the
new SIMMs.  One of the Goldstar 4MB SIMMS had a metal
burr soldered over two connectors where the parity
chip would normally be located.  I am returning all
of these SIMMs to the Chip Mercant in San Diego.

Do Macs totally ignore the parity lines and therefore
this defect wasn't detected?

Alex
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(415) 604-6010 (FAX) 604-4357 .....O/ O   {hplabs,decwrl,uunet}!ames!woo
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark
Organization: Lexington, KY
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:43:51 GMT

nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu writes:
>
>Given the choice, I would have had NeXT make separate
>(later) releases of the new packages (dbkit, 3D stuff,
>etc) and just work on getting the stable base release out
>on time. 
>

I'd have to agree with this. My current assumption is that 3.0 is likely
to be pretty unstable -- I think I'm going to wait for 3.1. If this does
in fact come to pass (I'd like to be wrong) then Next seems to be making 
a habit of this. (I'm sure everyone recalls how stable 2.0 was :) Next
has great software, but the base has to be stable for it to be usable.

Anyway,
-Chris

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Phone tones as NeXT sound files.
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:33:12 GMT


The remaining digits which did not appear in this score are as follows:

t +10; /* 2 */
| low (7) freq:697.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1336.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* 4 */
| low (7) freq:770.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1209.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* 5 */
| low (7) freq:770.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1336.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* * */
| low (7) freq:941.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1209.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* # */
| low (7) freq:941.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1477.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* A */
| low (7) freq:697.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1633.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* B */
| low (7) freq:770.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1633.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* C */
| low (7) freq:852.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1633.00, amp:-6dB;
t +10; /* D */
| low (7) freq:941.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1633.00, amp:-6dB;

The last four came from a Radio Shack book, but I can't tell you how to use  
them (except NOT to use them).  They are the famous "Blue-Box" tones generated  
by another one of Steve Wozniak's electronic inventions (or so urban legend has  
it).  I guess Steve Jobs has finally outdone The Woz's Blue-box with his  
Black-box :-)
---
Brian Willoughby	Software Design Engineer, BSEE
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	SoundSoftware
NeXTmail welcome

Stuart Ritchie writes
| >In comp.sys.next.misc, jalegre@htlv.med.umn.edu (John Alegre) writes:
| >>Are the standard phone tones for touch tone dialing available
| >>anywhere as NeXT sound files?
| 
| I think Eric P. Scott is attributed to coming up with this .score:
| 
| /* DSP-synthesized DTMF and call progress tones */
| info samplingRate:44100.00, tempo:6000;
| part low; low synthPatchCount:1, synthPatch:"Simp";
| part high; high synthPatchCount:1, synthPatch:"Simp";
| BEGIN;
| t 0;  /* dial tone */
| low (200) freq:350.00, amp:-15dB; high (200) freq:440.00, amp:-15dB;
| t 200; /* 1 */
| low (7) freq:697.00, amp:-8dB; high (7) freq:1209.00, amp:-6dB;
-- 
Brian Willoughby	Software Design Engineer, BSEE
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	SoundSoftware
NeXTmail welcome
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: Re: Missile Command (stripped, and file list)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Aug 92 07:59:04 GMT

Sigh...  My fault.
Looked at the installed app directory and saw that it was stripped;
I also forgot that not everyone has compilers....
So I drop the directory into opener (great app) and off it goes, right?
The great downfall of opener: It's SO convenient!
Never even have to look at the .tar.Z.
So I've replaced MCommand.tar.Z, on sonata, complete with a readme lines:
p.s. For my bretheren, and sisteren w/o compilers here's what you need:

/users/kurt/Apps/MCommand.app>ls
Bomber.tiff             MCommand.nib            mBase.tiff
GameIcon2.tiff          SmartBomb.tiff          missileIcon.tiff
HighScore.nib           city3.tiff              targetD3.tiff
MCommand*               highscores

and a stripped executable.
Have a good time,
Kurt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: a74k110@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Serial Port Expander
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:36:48 GMT

>In article <1992Aug17.063022.25980@fokus.gmd.de> kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus  
>Hofrichter) writes:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> anyone out there with some experience about additional serial ports for  
>> NeXT? I have heard about a piece of hardware with four ports. Can some  
>> kind soul send me the manufactors address or some other information?

TTYDSP, available from Yrrid, converts the DSP port into a single
additional serial port with standard Unix devices and also runs at
57600 and 76800 baud.  This gives you one more port at a very
reasonable price.

For more information mail to: yrrid@world.std.com

Disclaimer: I'm half of Yrrid.

la la la,
-- 
::   Christopher Lloyd  ::  a74k110@titan.ucc.umass.edu  ::  Yrrid, Inc.    ::
::"He said he'd make me elite for $5...I think he wanted a sub or somethin'"::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Subject: Re: Emacs for NeXT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:00:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.014753.8001@news.columbia.edu>  
nwc@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher) writes:
> 
> You want to get Emacs (case is significant there) from one of the
> archives.  sonata.cc.purdue.edu has it.  It has mouse support as well
> as several other nice features. For one it can become your default
> open app and replace Edit as the last resort on the file double click
> response chain.
> 
> \n

What features does Emacs have that Edit doesn't? Should I check it out or  
is it better to stick with Edit.

Eystein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dahla@mksol.dseg.ti.com (alexander dahl)
Subject: NeXT <=> Stylewriter  EPS are you there?
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:58:35 GMT

Yes I am looking for a driver for a Stylewriter, the
Mac Ink Jet printer.  How much more difficult can it
be than the Imagewriter??

Since I know nothing of these things, I don't dare
even try.

Any feedback is appreciated,  especially by =EPS=.

Thanks,


-- 
Alex Dahl
dahla@lobby.ti.com           or        dahla@mksol.deseg.ti.com

Remember:  My expressions are unknown to my employer nor do they care.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: Re: Missile Command and Other Submissions
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:12:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.181303.19512@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
> Please oh please could anybody who submits apps to the  
> archives either provide separate source and binary-only  
> versions or include a README telling people what files they  
> can chuck if all they want is to run the thing.
> 
> I love all the apps that are posted, I'm real grateful to  
> the people who post them, but i can't afford the disk space  
> to keep all that source around that I will never use.

I too love the apps, but...

Strip the executables, too!  MCommand.tar.Z has contains a 500K binary  
that strips down to 50K.

Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com
From: greg@agog (Greg Cockroft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: A NEW tar&compress FRONTEND....
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:02:30 GMT
Organization: Agog, Inc.

In article <1992Aug13.215318.530@ms.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu  
(John Soward) writes:
> Glenn Reid writes
> -> the compressed data.  Just yesterday I got a 10-to-1 compression
> -> on a directory full of TIFF files, and I thought that TIFF already
> -> had reasonably good compression in its internal format!
> 
> 	No actually it sucks (e.g it has none)...unless you are using one  
of  
> NeXTs TIFF compression schemes...which are lempel-ziv (same as compress)  
or  
> JPEG (radically diferrent and results in a huge compression, but is  
"lossy" --  
> which sometimes is a big deal and sometimes is not).
> --

This is incorrect information.
TIFF 5.0 has optional compression of various types.
   LZW --   same as in compress. Previous substrings in a lookup table.
   packbits --  run length encoding
   group 4? fax compression. -- Various bit strings representing runs of
                              0 and 1 bits. Some interline deltas.

NXImageBitImageRep supports LZW and packbits.

The JPEG data in 2.x TIFF files is a non-standard extension because it had  
not yet been addressed in TIFF when 2.0 shipped. JPEG will be part of TIFF  
6.0.  3.0 NeXTStep is supposed to conform to TIFF 6.0.

For the most part LZW and packbits do very well on non-continous tone  
images. Maybe not state of the art but certainly some big savings.


	-greg.





-- 
Greg Cockroft                       greg@agog.com    
Agog, Inc.                          (517) 627-2186   fax 2673
13780 North River Highway
Grand Ledge, MI  48837
From: rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: politics
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:13:38 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Aug17.214442.11233@csus.edu> ojohns@bodhi.sfsu.edu (Oliver  
Johns) writes:
> Mr. Carling of the Hoover Institution
> has just posted a technical remark with
> the following signature:
> 
> >>M Carling
> >>Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
> >>--
> >>Save a child, shoot a drug dealer.
> >>Save a thousand, shoot an abortionist.
> 
> I object to this signature.  There are lots
> of kooks in the NeXT community, but they manage
> to keep their kookiness private.  I suggest that
> Mr. Carling do the same.
  
I object to your objection... can we get back to NeXT specific stuff?
---
Roy SeGuine  NeXT Cyberspace Architech 
*many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased* Dan12:4