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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Enough is Enough (was Re: Top Five Movies of All Time)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 00:28:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <kaxiras.724462968@cs.wisc.edu> kaxiras@falcons.cs.wisc.edu (Stefanos Kaxiras) writes:

>And don't have any illusion that *you* judge art work.
>You only talk about how much entertainment you've got out
>of the money you paid for the ticket.

	Isn't that [entertainment] what movies are for?  That would seem to be
a pretty good crieteria to judge them on if so.

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From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: Re: Stephen King Movies
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:57:48 GMT


In article <1992Dec11.020330.12912@bsu-ucs>  writes:
>> |> Ones I thought were good (that I can remember)
>> |> 
>> |> The Shining (my favorite)
>> |> Children of the Corn  (didn't they make a sequel?)
>> |> Cujo
>> |> Firestarter
>> |> The Running man
>
>TRM was Stephen King?  Kinda out of his stly isn't it?  I'm surprised he'd
>bother, as much $$ he makes per horror story!  :)
>


TRM was penned under a Pseunonym of Richard Bachman.  He wrote a few 
out of horror genre books under this name.  He only came out of the
closet a couple of years ago.
From: mjs4@po.CWRU.Edu (M. J. Sanz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best foreign films, by country
Date: 21 Dec 1992 05:36:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mjs4@po.CWRU.Edu (M. J. Sanz)
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i'd like to add Cyrano de Bergerac for France, 
and for Spain, I think Carmen and Ay, Carmela! should be on the list.

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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: _Wild Orchid II, Two Shades of Blue_
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:28:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

arnold@pyramid.unr.edu (Bruce M Arnold) writes:
> I just rented _WOII,TSOB_ last night, and I was REALLY suprised.  I
> enjoyed this movie very much.  I saw the un-cut version of _Wild Orhid_
> and wasn't all that impressed.  I think the second one was much better.

> But why did they even bother to call it _WOII_?  It seemed to be very much
> a stand-alone movie that had nothing to do with _WO_ except for the
> erotisism.

Same director, playing on a name familiar with erotic-movie audiences.

> And, did it ever come out on the screen or did they just release it on
> video tape?  Did it ever get a review?  What is with this movie?

It hit the big screens for a very short run. Reviews were chilly.

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From: ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Subject: Re: More Stephen King movies
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:58:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.185405.277@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>
mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Dec11.230545.16422@hou.amoco.com> zklf0b@gs144.hou.amoco.com (Fergason) writes:
>>Wasn't Rawhead Rex also one of the Bachman books?
>>It was a pretty good short film.  At least, i remember
>>it being only a little over an hour.
>>
>
>Nope, it's short story by Clive Barker.
>
>--
>Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
>mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com                       _-\_<,
>"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)
 
Missed the first part of this - did anyone mention _The Running Man_
or _Stand By Me_?  There was also that one that he directed, based
on the short story he wrote about trucks and cars developing their
own sentience and taking over the world.  And I think somebody did
a segment on some anthology series using the short story about the
guy who tries to run off with the wife of the gangster, and the
bad guy makes the "hero" go out on a ledge and try to walk around
the building (some 80+ floors off the pavement!!).  Can't remember
the name of that one, either.
 
--Jean
From: idathon@uts.uni-c.dk (Hans O. Nymand)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Black Holes of Cinema
Date: 19 Dec 92 01:27:39 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

>mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:

>> This may be a controversial or flame-baiting topic, but it relates to the 
>> "overrated" thread.  Black holes are cinema are people with no talent who 
 >> kee
>> making movies!
>> 
>>     Nominees:
>> Andrew McCarthy        Major black hole
>> Molly Ringwold
>> Julia Roberts
>> Dolph Lundgren
>> Keanu Reeves !! Major black hole! Can he walk and chew gum as anyone other 
>>> th
>>                  Ted or Bill ?!?
>> Demi Moore
>> Bruce Willis !!  Major
>> Jim Belushi
>> Patrick Swayze Major major black hole!!!!
>> Tom Selleck !  Major bh
>> Meg Tilly!!   inactive lately, thank god!
>> Jean-Claude Van Damme !
>> Sylvester Stallone   (enough Rocky and Rambo black holes!!)
>> 
>> 
>>   Any more nominees......?

Kim Basinger
Arnold Schwarzzenegge


Henrik Sahlholt
(d01hs@vm2.uni-c.dk)
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From: mmidboe@nyx.cs.du.edu (digital saint)
Subject: Re: Watchmen
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:31:19 GMT


     Here is all the stuff that I have heard about Watchmen. Also
considering the source they probably aren't true but nice to think about.
Terry Gilliam would direct it. Jon wouldn't be an actor because you just
can't do him he was going to be completely computer generated. Alan Moore
was going to write the screenplay, and I heard that he might possibly have
something different in the ending and the beginning. I can't imagine him
changing anything about the story. It is just so good right now I hope he
doesn't mess with it. If he is even considering changing it all. I heard
that they had a preview for it at (Egads) the Batman preview party in
Hollywood. It had Pink Floyd's song "Time" and it showed this clock come
toward the screen and flip over into a happy face button. Then said coming
in I don't remember when directed by Terry Gilliam. These things are from
an almost totally unreliable source so I have no idea if they are true.
Sure would be nice if they were. Pink Floyd was supposed to do music for
the movie, mixed in with stuff of "Dark Side of the Moon". The graphic
novel is better than Batman or anything else of the comic book ilk so I
can't see why someone hasn't jumped on this movie idea. I heard that Terry
Gilliam was hoping The Fisher King would be succesful so he could use some
of the money from that to do the Watchmen.
From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is Molly Ringwald doing
Keywords: molly ringwald
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:43:59 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Dec9.231625.16292@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <Bz05FJ.7uz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, anderson@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Chris Anderson) writes:
>> 
>> What is Molly Ringwald doing these days?  Last I heard, she had
>
>
>Just hanging out.  Watching Roseanne right now.

Why the sudden interest in Molly Ringworm?


-- 
 Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | Wishing I were an emaciated chihuahua. 
 "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:23:29 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <BzGJzB.Msy@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil>, organic@mgr.hjf.org 
(Miriam Organic) writes:

> I saw room with a view but can't place him.... 
> who did Daniel Day Lewis  play in that movie.

Ahhh, then you need to see it again.  *smile*

He was Ceceil, the stuffy suitor of Helana Bonham-Carter's character.

Greg Bole                            "Don't shrug you moron, I'm blind!
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          Save the body languare for the bimbae."
                                        Al Pacino in _Scent of a Woman_
From: 2715gibsonr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: DEAD POET'S SOCIETY 2
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:49:15 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2715gibsonr@vms.csd.mu.edu
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IF YOU HAVE EVER SEEN DEAD POETS, YOU KNOW HOW GREAT THE MOVIE WAS.  ANYWAYS, ABO, 
A FEW YEARS AGO, ROBIN WILLIAMS STATED THAT HE PLANNED TO MAKE DEAD POETS 2.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF HE STILL PLANS TO CARRY THROUGH WITH HIS STATEMENT.  AS
WELL AS, DOES ANYONE KNOW IF HE IS GOING TO MAKE GOOD MORNING VIETNAM 2?
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Changing Directors
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:39:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.160037.28731@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.052729.12696@Virginia.EDU> cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike") writes:
>>	Since someone brought it up, let's think how films
>>would have been changed if they had different directors.

How about the Fellini "Star Wars"?  Once Luke shows up in the canteen
on Tatoinne, instead of going out to save the universe, he would have
a series of love affairs with progressively more bizarre aliens, without
ever leaving the canteen.  (Except, of course, in baroque fantasy
sequences.)  In the end, he would wander out into the desert, mumbling
something existential.

This is much more entertaining than the Antonioni "Star Wars", in which
Luke would have spent the entire film wandering about the desert, 
mumbling something existential.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: cbh@opus.mlb.semi.harris.com (Cherie Slasor)
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:07:44 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <168BEE736.ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
>Just wondering if there's anyone else who was *very* entranced with DDL
>in _Last of the Mohicans_, as my best friend and I were when we saw it?
>I immediately went out and bought _My Left Foot_, which was *nothing*
>like _LOTM_, but in which I saw why it was that Daniel got his Oscar.
>And I *loved* that great piece that Libby Whatshername did on Daniel
>in _Premier_ magazine (it was either the last one or the one before).
>VERY funny!
> 
>--Jean

YES!  Shortly after seeing _LOTM_ (for the 2nd time, I think) I rented
_MLF_ and _A Room With A View_ and found that he was a totally different
person in each of the 3 movies.  He even looked different and I doubt
I would have recognized him if I didn't already know he was there.  I am
very impressed with what a true actor (as opposed to a "movie star") can
do.

Is it true he's the son of a former British Poet Laureate?

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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Of Mice and Men
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:34:52 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <1992Dec17.010130.11468@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mmidboe@nyx.cs.du.edu (digital saint) writes:
>
>     I haven't seen any mention of "Of Mice and Men" here. Did this movie
>just not reach many places? It is without a doubt the best movie I have
>seen this year. It surpasses A Few Good Men, Dracula, Sneakers and several
>others that I have seen. Does anyone know of anything else that Gary

Sorry,I didn't see of Mice and Men and can't comment on it but I saw
"Scent of a Woman" way back in September at a film festival. It's way
above the movies you've listed above. I saw all three(Few Good Men,Dracula
,Sneakers) and wasn't impressed by anything but an occasional indivual
performance here and there. Same goes for Glengary Ross which I found quite
weak in terms of a plot and a story development(If it wasn't for Paccino's
and Lemon's perfomances,it wouldn't even stay in the theatres for more
than a 2-weeks' run). It would be a crime if any of them made into "the
best picture category".

The movies to watch for at the Oscar time are : Scent of A Woman,Hoffa,Malcolm X,
Lorenzo's Oil and Chaplin.

Later,

-Mark
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From: cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott)
Subject: Re: want info on THE LOVER actress
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:37:21 GMT

hoey@zogwarg.etl.army.mil (Dan Hoey) writes:
>cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott) writes:
>>	There was a minor controversy over the supposed age of the
>>*character* in the move, not the age of Ms. March. In a piece of dialogue
>>where Leung's character asks her how old she is, she replies "fifteen" in
>>the original cut of the movie. When the movie was released in the U.S.A.,
>>the dialogue had to be changed to "eighteen"....

>That's close, but not quite what I read in the DC City Paper (which
>has been known to get things wrong, but...)  According to their
>review, the young girl says eighteen but the narrator--her older
>self--says that it was a lie.  It was the narrator's correction that
>was excised.

>Having never seen the uncut version, I can't say which account is accurate.

>Dan Hoey
>Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil

	I have never seen an uncut version, either. I do know that when I
saw the film, the exact spot in the film where she states her age in the
car is poorly dubbed. She said "eighteen" in the release that I saw, but
that was not what her mouth was saying.

	In any case, I feel that the whole hubbub is ridiculous.

						-Cal
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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Stephen King Movies
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:25:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.020330.12912@bsu-ucs> 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>> |> Ones I thought were good (that I can remember)
>> |> 
>> |> The Shining (my favorite)
>> |> Children of the Corn  (didn't they make a sequel?)
>> |> Cujo
>> |> Firestarter
>> |> The Running man
>
>TRM was Stephen King?  Kinda out of his stly isn't it?  I'm surprised he'd
>bother, as much $$ he makes per horror story!  :)
>

The movie bears little resemblence to the original story.  In the novel,
Arnold's character is an "everyman" who enters the game in order to
pay for medication for his dying child.  The games also takes place
all over the country, with everyone in the world looking for the
contestants.  The book is much better than the movie (surprise!) and
probably much better than I make it seem.

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From: syd@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dennis P Hilgenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Summary: Not Them!
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:52:38 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>Stop what you're doing, right now, and go out to the Blockbuster near you
>and rent [four named movies].  		      ^^^^^^^^^^^

No, don't go there!

Six reasons not to patronize Blockbuster:

1.  Small selection made to look big by:
  a) Excessive spacing on shelves
  b) Tapes displayed face forward rather than edge forward
  c) One display box per tape, resulting in an entire wall
     of the latest "hit" movie

2.  Overcategorization:
  a) Comedy, for example, divided into "romantic comedy," 
     "wild comedy," "comedy," etc.  Same problem with 
     drama, "classics," adventure, and so forth.  
  b) Additional complications result from separate sections 
     for some actors, directors and producers.  

3.  High prices: at least in the Chicago area, $3.00/tape
    for two nights.  Most independent stores (with equivalent
    or superior selections, mind you) charge at most $2.50
    for new releases and often $1.00 for older tapes.  This
    is not always for two nights, but in my opinion two-night
    rental is of dubious value anyway.

4.  Refusal to carry unrated movies, causing a good deal of,
    for example, foreign films not to be represented.  Also,
    selective censorship (e.g. no "Last Temptation of Christ").
    I don't recall whether or not they stock NC-17 films.

5.  Excessive information required for membership.

6.  Almost always staffed by unknowledgeable sixteen-year-olds.

The only advantages Blockbuster has are relatively late hours
(I think they're open until midnight every night) and, in some
places such as West Lafayette, Ind., dropoff boxes in odd
locations, like Burger King.

-- 
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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Underrated Actor/Actress
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:10:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

> I am intersted in seeing who people think are the most underrated actor and
> actress currently working today...

Underrated: Danny Glover, Andie McDowell
            (Honorable mention: Leslie Nielsen, Sheryl Lee)

Overrated:  Johnny Depp, Melanie Griffith

Special mention for the complete offensiveness of Emilio Estevez and Madonna.
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From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Which Peter Coyote movie is this?
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:21:19 GMT
Organization: Chevron


 I saw a Peter Coyote movie several years ago and can't remember 
 which one it is.  He's somehow connect to the art world and has
 a fight with his wife in an art gallery.  I think he's having 
 troubles adjusting to married life.  There's a menage-a-trois
 scene with him, his buddy, and Carol Wayne. (Sorry, I don't
 have the DEAD list to cross-reference with.)

 Thanks.

 TRAVIS
 hhtra@hou281.chevron.com
From: csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Underrated Actress?
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:00:27 GMT
Reply-To: csroc@dime.UUCP (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <BzF9BE.DwK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>The fact that Madonna gets movie roles AT ALL is proof that she is
>overrated.  :)

I almost agree with you,except for one role where
I believe she should have gotten a supproting actress oscar,

Desperately Seeking Susan
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From: maus@fid.morgan.com (Malcolm Austin)
Subject: Re: Is there a "Lord Of The Rings" in the making ?
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:49:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.043151.44416@datamark.co.nz> david@datamark.co.nz (David Rowland) writes:
>Someone who was trying to get a suite of armour told me he couldn't
>because the company he was getting it from said they were too busy
>making thousands of suits for a set filming "Lord Of The Rings".  This
>was awhile ago and I haven't heard anymore about this film.
>
>Is someone making this film?????
>

Well, the story as you present it has the "ring of falsehood" about it (no
Tolkein pun intended), even passing over the plausibility of obtaining
armoured hotel accomodations. :^)

There is no way a movie production would commision "thousands of suits of
armour" for anything.  Even if they actually had crowd scenes of 1000s of
armoured characters, they would surely use props made to look like armour,
but actually made of cheaper and lighter material.  I think the company
was pulling your friend's leg.


    "George Phblat's new film, 'Benji Saves the Universe,' has brought
    the word 'BAD' to new levels of badness.  Bad acting.  Bad effects.
    Bad everything.  This film just oozed rottenness from every bad
    scene...Simply bad beyond all infinite dimensions of possible
    badness.  Well maybe not that bad, but Lord, it wasn't good."
-- 
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Subject: Re: Tim Burton Movies HA!
From: asr_2@dac.mdcbbs.com
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:55:02 PST
Organization: MDC - Douglas Aircraft, Long Beach, CA
Nntp-Posting-User: gill


> 	You are all wrong.  Tim Burton does not make good movies, he
> makes good visuals.  He can't tell a story worth crap.  In
> fact, he doesn't want to tell a story worth crap.  I read an

..at last a voice of reason, this guy is a wuuse, let him do the 
   visuals let someone else make sense of the story..
   I liked Batman1 but BR sucked so bad I almost walked out, I 
   did fall asleep though.  Not riveting, not even good..
   the penguin character was a joke and Batman revealing 
   himself every movie is more than a little irritating.
   Plus he chose that balding keaton as Bruce Wayne...
   If he is shot for anything it should be that.  Keaton
   has the menace of phylis Diller.
> article where Daniel Waters (a great screenwriter ruefully
> associated with "Batman Returns") said that Burton went in and
> took out scenes that would help the plot make more sense in BR.

  ...maintain that stupid eclectic image of his, spare me and the
     rest of us..was it just me or did anyone keep thinking of
     Highlander II during this.

> 	The only thing that Burton has done well is "Edward
> Scissorhands", which didn`t really require a plot.  A couple of

  ...I disagree although it wasn't bad it was basically a John Hughes
     movie except the boy had scissors on..the rest was predictable..
     some nice visuals..like I said, stick to visuals.

> the scenes in "Batman" were OK, as was the masquerade ball
> scene in BR.  "Beetlejuice" was riotiously unfunny.  All in

..agreed that BJ was not funny, but Keaton was at least better used.

> all, I think Burton is a David Lynch for idiots.
 
  Right on the ball man

  Asim