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From: c2s0860@rigel.tamu.edu (C. S. Suehs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Advertising/Bad communication with dealers
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: css0860@zeus.tamu.edu
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

1.  I haven't seen anything on TV regarding OS/2.  I've seen a few
    microsoft comercials and heard quite a few pushes for Windows
    on the radio.  Get on the ball, IBM.

2.  I've given up on the campus IBM dealer here in the MicroComputer
    Center.  They are still pushing Windows with their PS/2's.  That
    doesn't seem right.  They also weren't helpful at all in getting
    OS/2.  Their IBM "Representative" is never there when I go by and
    hasn't returned any of my calls.  I've been trying to get in touch
    with him since the beginning of the year.

IBM/OS/2 really have an uphill battle if this is an accurate sample of
  the rest of the country.


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whose opinions probably are not shared by Academic Computing Services.
Dick Clark did not say "I think, therefore I am!"  It was Descartes
who walked into a bar and was asked "Have a beer, sire?"
"I think not."  >poof< and he was gone.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: eguerrino@email.bony.com
Subject: Re: Manuals with OS/2 V.2 as shipped.
Organization: ***
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:28:00 EST

The manuals, as shipped, are not spiral-bound as was 1.3 manuals.
They are bound similar to MASM 5.1 documentation and the new 123/G
documentation. They are all rather "thin" and will likely not be needed
after they are read through once and you complete installation.
There is a:
   Getting Started
   Installation Guide
   Using the Operating System
   Migrating to the OS/2 Workplace Shell
There are also smaller docs on Adobe TM, Compatibility Info, Quick
Reference, license info, etc....
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: HPFS question...
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 01:42:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

grendel@cis.ksu.edu (Stephen Spencer ) writes:
: 
: Okay.  'Ere we go... the $200 question: if I continue to use fat until I can
: get more RAM, will I still be able to defrag them using norton or pctools
: without harming the os/2 data?
: 

No, no and no.  No DOS utility that moves files may be used on a disk
that contains EA DATA. SF with impunity.  Including any file (as opposed
to disk image) restore.  EA's are *the* Achiles heel of compatability
claims with DOS/Windows.  Do I get $200?

If done from a DOS box under OS/2 I am probably totally wrong (I hope.)
But don't even think of it from a DOS boot.

Anybody know who gets the credit for EA's.  MS or IBM?
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SVGA modes in fullscreen DOS sessions.
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:49:14 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <17543.29eeaf59@ecs.umass.edu> horan@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>I realize there are only a few various 16 color OS/2 drivers out there, so 
>I was wondering the following.
>Can I run something in full screen mode in any SVGA resolution?  Say run VPIC
>full screened in a dos box in 800x600x32k (HiColor)?
>Is this too much to ask?   It didn't work in 1.3, but I assumed that that was 
>due to memory probs and the fact that I haven't learned to use it too too well
>yet.

Yes you can, assuming:

(1) You run SVGA ON from a full screen DOS session, Shutdown, and
reboot first;
(2) SVGA ON recognizes your SuperVGA adapter (it seems to recognize
just about everything);
(3) SVGA ON will support the mode switching for whichever mode you
use.

When using a SuperVGA mode full screen, enable KBD_ALTHOME_BYPASS
unless you have an OS/2 desktop driver which explicitly supports
running such a resolution in a window.  And in rare instances you may
find that ALT-ESC will give you a garbled Workplace Shell desktop.  If
so, ALT-ESC until you get back to the program using the SuperVGA
screen and exit it.  In practice I haven't found this to be a problem,
but I haven't tested the Sierra HiColor modes (I don't have them on my
card -- yet).  It should be OK.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
From: ulf@dc.luth.se (Ulf Ruthberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Cant I write to harddisk in Booted DOS window ?
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:59:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Service Center, Lule University.

Maybe I am missing something, but I cant write to the C: drive,
if I boot a DOS-window.
Should it be like this, if so whats the use of booting DOS in a window?

HELP!

-Ulf

-ulf
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tom@microsoft.com (Tom Mcconnell)
Subject: Re: PC Mag response to OS/2 coverage Q
Date: 09 Apr 92 05:40:03 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Apr1.130706.27818@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel) writes:
>In article <gate.cmqgiB1w164w@sps> kslater@sps writes:
>>I took the advice of whomever posted the addresses of the various PC
>>
>>Dear Mr. Slater:
>> 
>...
>>pages in the coming months. We are not ignoring OS/2. If the user base
>>develops, we will provide the coverage to match. As you may know, so far,
>>the user base for OS2 has been microscopic. Thank you for your interest and
>>for taking the time to write to us.
>> 
>>Joel Dreyfuss
>>Editor
>>PC Magazine
>>
>>----------------------Mail Ends-----------------
>
>Over one million OS/2 users are microscopic? This is an very interesting
>view of the situation ...
>
>So I am less than a 1/1000000 of a microscopic minority.
>
>Kai Uwe Rommel
>

Well, _I_ consider it microscopic!  How much coverage do you see
in PC Magazine on the Amiga!?? Even though it has 3 _TIMES_ the
installed base of OS2, not to mention many many more applications?
And don't say, "it's for intel machines..." as they DO cover the Mac, 
now don't they?

-Tom "Tongue firmly planted in cheek"

[former Amiga fanatic tired of beating a dead horse...]

p.s. If the world went to the most technically superior product, 
we _would_ all be using amiga's right now... ;-)


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From: tsavola@oregon.uoregon.edu (Tom Savola)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is this really Seamless?
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:46:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr10.163702.9194@midway.uchicago.edu>, sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes...
>
>[stuff deleted] 
>No, no, not at all.  I run Word for Windows on the WPS desktop, for
>example.  Other than having the coloring defaults of Windows, it looks
>just like any other application.
> 
>[stuff deleted] 
>Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
>sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
>Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
>Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.

FYI, you can change the colors of a seamless Windows application by changing
the colors of the full screen Windows session -- I have my PM desktop and my
Win-OS/2 desktop set to the same color scheme, so even my windowed Win 3 apps
look consistent.

(A tip from someone with too much free time on his hands.)


Tom Savola
From: mstaben@visual.spk.wa.us (Matt Staben)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Infoworld Headlines
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:54:43 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market Public Access Site - Spokane, WA

In article <1992Apr8.014412.9306@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller) writes:
>In article <1992Apr07.190935.12183@atl.scscom.com> chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro) writes:
>>Well, my April 6th Infoworld showed up today. The good news is that OS/2
>>2.0 had 2 front page headlines, the bad news is that they were:
>>
>>"OS/2 2.0 Stumbles but Shows Promise", which goes on to say a few nice 
>>things about 2.0, but harps on the current absence of a netware requester.
>>It does say that the 2.0 desktop puts the Windoze interface to shame. The
>>closing comments say that users wanting a mature, "robust" operating system
>>will have to wait a bit longer.
>
>OS/2 is being criticised for not being robust?  My god, my buggy LA is still
>more stable than the Windows that it replaced.
>
>>Other mentions of OS/2 still talk about it as being a server or high end
>>operating system. I think IBM needs to work on OS/2's image - get it down
>>to the desktop. Explain to potential customers and to the press why it
>>is such a valuable tool for -any- desktop. Personally, I never understood
>>why anyone would want to waste a fews megs of RAM and disk space putting
>>an operating system with a GUI on a server in the first place. And as
>>for this "mission critical" myth, if I loose an hour's worth of data
>>because my operating system crashes, and you say it's okay because I
>>wasn't working on anything "mission critical", it's very possible that I
>>may hurt you.
>
>To quote a favorable article about 1.3 in BYTE (yes, BYTE) when 1.3 was
>released:  "So OS/2 will give you a rock-solid base for mission-critical
>applications.  And hey, my mission is critical, too."
>
>-Dave
>-- 
>David Giller, Box 134 | Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light
>Occidental College    | bulb?  A: Three.  One to replace the bulb, and two to
>1600 Campus Road      | fend off all the Californians trying to share the
>Los Angeles, CA 90041 | experience. ---------------------------rafetmad@oxy.edu

Infoworld, in all this time, has been interestingly critical of OS/2 and its
chances.  I no longer listen to what Infoworld has to say about OS/2 2.0, and
only some of what it has to say of Windoze 3.0/3.1.  They must be leery of
Mafiasoft.  

Speaking of Windoze.  I find it interesting that they all say "It crashes
less often".  Jeez, if it crashes AT ALL in a week is too much for me!

mstaben@visual.spk.wa.us
From: merrill@cs.arizona.edu (Darren Merrill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Even More buglets
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:51:52 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Apr16.071202.25271@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:
>Open Templates and pull off a folder.  Hold down Alt and MB1 click on
>the folder's text as if you were going to edit it.  When the edit box
>appears, do nothing.  In a few seconds, the edit box disappears.  Try
>it again and the edit box stays until you get rid of it.

How is this a bug?  I think it is good that it does this.  Imagine:
click to edit, "hmm.. what will I call this thing..", disappear, "drat",
click again to edit, "now stay open this time.. darnit".  Maybe it
is a bug, but it seems like a 'feature' to me. :)


-- 
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University of Arizona           Bitnet: merrill%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
Department of Computer Science  Internet: merrill@cs.arizona.edu  
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: swartzjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeff H. Swartz)
Subject: Trident... The saga continues...
Reply-To: swartzjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeff H. Swartz)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:25:50 GMT


	Well I got my SVGA drivers installed and WHAM they work!!!  I am  
really disappointed in that I can no longer multitask VGA programs in DOS  
windows.  I want a 256 color (640X480 or 800X600) that I can still run my  
VGA DOS apps in windows under.  Is this possible???  Are there drivers  
coming out that will do this???  I really like the 800X600 or 640X480  
drivers but I want to be able to run VGA DOW windows.  When I try it with  
the Trident drivers installed it says that this is not supported under  
these drivers.  Any info is much appreciated...


			Jeff Swartz
			
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Mikemoe)
Subject: OS/2 upgrade through retail?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:27:02 GMT

Has there been any definitive answer to the above question?

Can I get my upgrade through retail channels, and only pay $49 
if I have Windows proof of purchase?


Thanks
Mike
millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com
From: skanga@prism.poly.edu (Shiraz Kanga)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Microsoft wins
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:20:42 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York

In article <6APR199200454278@venus.tamu.edu> tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:
>
> Anyone hear about Microsoft signing -> 85 <- PC manufactures to bundle
>Windoze 3.1 with their machines?  Includes 8 of the ten top sellers too,
>(i.e. Dell, Gateway, Zeos, etc.).  This sounds like another one of those
>"I wish we would have thought of that" sayings from IBM.  I felt this
>way when I owned my Amiga, kinda like you're doomed by fate to fail.. Come
>on IBM - GET WITH IT!!!!! 

The consumer should get the right of choice. If I am paying for the PC I will
demand that it comes with the OS of my choice or else my business goes to
another vendor. Eventually the market has to move with the consumers wishes.

And some free advice to our friend here from MicroSlob (Take it or leave it)

Gordon Let-win doze be, cause its future is MT. And also its not an OS too
to boot.

Cheers

Shiraz

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From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 "Buglet" Report
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:43:22 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <f0vjnf_.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>>I'd like to see a new Dos Setting added - one that would effectively 
>>specify a private list of commands to be executed as a session-specific
>>autoexec.bat for each session.

>I think you can do this, although it isn't immediately obvious how.  I
>believe COMMAND.COM (the one that comes with OS/2 or any other
>COMMAND.COM) can take the /K option, and you can pass a command (or
>the name of a batch file) to COMMAND.COM that way.  I'm not sure if
>AUTOEXEC.BAT executes at all or, if it does, whether it does before or
>after the /K command/batch file.

>If you remove the AUTOEXEC.BAT file from your root directory (or
>rename it), you can prevent COMMAND.COM from executing it.  Then you
>can manually specify a startup batch file for each DOS session using
>the /K option.

>Is that clear?

Yes. Having the dos setting for initialization commands would permit
environmental variables needed by the application to be set before
the application starts without requiring a second invocation of
command.com.
-- 
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= Candidate Bush wouldn't recognize principle if he were standing upon it =
From: MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Floppy File System?
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:39:38 GMT
Organization: Penn State ACA (American Churl Association)
X-Subliminal-Message: OS/2 2.0 is here.  Call 1-800-3IBMOS2 to order.
X-Curtains-For-Windows: OS/2 2.0 upgrade from Windows: $49
X-PEPSI-Slogan: My butt -- Gotta bite it!
X-Emasculated-Operating-System: UNIX

In article <1992Apr6.020942.14075@athena.mit.edu>, reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey
Villarreal) says:
>
>I have ordered OS/2 2.0. Just wondering, I have access to a BBS
>and want to start downloading OS/2 stuff. Does OS/2 use the same
>floppy disk format as DOS and Windows. I assume so if you want to
>install Windows and DOS software. Just want to be sure.

Yes - and even the hard disk will be the same format if you choose not to
install the HPFS filesystem.
---
Michael E. Dahmus -- mxd118@psuvm.psu.edu, dahmus@cs.psu.edu, or GWPX90D *P*
UNIX:  The perfect operating system for people who don't have to pay for
       their computers.        <* OS/2 2.0 is here! *>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: schafer@is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer)
Subject: Some peculiar restrictions on the OS/2 upgrade form
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:26:28 GMT

Someone here noticed a note at the tail end of the OS/2 upgrade form that
causes a fair amount of concern to me.  The form says

	Only one order form can be used per qualifying location (a single
	building designated by a single mailing address in the United States
	or Puerto Rico).  Photocopies of this form can be used to place
	orders for additional locations.

After reading that, he says he called IBM and verified that the restriction
means that IBM will only take one actual upgrade from us, regardless of who
sends it in or who bought or owns the copy of 1.x, and will ship some sort
of "proof of additional license" to everyone else, who is then expected to
go to the first person and make copies of the disk, I guess.  *NO* manuals
will be shipped to the "additional license" upgraders.

I'm sorry, but this is just brain-dead and *asking* for trouble.  This
restriction was never in place before, nor should it be now.  If two
people bought real copies of the product, then two people should get
real upgrades, and not be forced to copy disks to get a system with no
manuals!

Somebody please tell me this isn't true.

Richard
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: HPFS question...
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 01:57:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I'll bet (no, I better rephrase that. I'll conjecture) that in HPFS EA's are
in fact implememted as separate hidden files associated through  directory
entries with their parents. 

Awaiting contradiction,

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: davidh@towers.rn.com (David Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Paradise OS/2 2.0 Drivers
Summary: whats the word on 'm?
Keywords: Paradise, OS/2 2.0
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:16:13 GMT
Organization: Small System Specialists

Hi all!

Just a simple question, I just upgraded my Paradise card to 512K, and was
wondering if there was any word on PM drivers for 640x480x256 under
OS/2 2.0?

Thanks!

David Holland

davidh@towers.rn.com
From: 880506s@aucs.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is this really Seamless?
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:47:14 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer) writes:

>The only 'problem' with seamless Windows at the moment is that drivers
>only exist for the VGA and the 8514 as shipped 

Does GA really have 8514 seamless Windows drivers?
I had thought I had heard that it would be in a CSD?




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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 14:53:21 EDT
From: Christopher Sacksteder <CJS@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Wish List -- Help Wanted

As part of a review of 2.0 GA, I've jotted down things I wish I could
do.  No doubt, some CAN be done, and I've just missed the technique.

Would some OS/2 experts tell me if some of these things can be done (or
a reasonable alternative is to do X)?  Perhaps, given the volume in this
group, e-mail would be better (particularly if I'm being really stoopid!)
I'll summarize.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

WISH LIST

  Very much wish the mouse would track faster (XGA only; VGA ok).
  (Setting is at its fastest.)
  Although it accelerates, it is hard to get used to the difference
  between it an MSWin.

  Windows always open first time same size -- usually far too big for
  their contents.

  A nice option for a window would be for it to expand/shrink to fit
  size of its contents.

  Wish there were a "snap-to-grid" option to arrange icons.

  Wish the menu item arrow indicating another menu was bigger (XGA).

  Wish there was a short cut for OPEN-SETTINGS.

  Wish there was a way to quickly see file details for one file.

  Wish there was a way to see total space used by all files in a
  directory and total space used by all files in all subdirectories.

  Wish there was a way (maybe there is) to change the default for OPEN
  of a drive or directory from ICON VIEW to TREE VIEW or DETAILS VIEW.

  Wish there was a way to save various desktop configurations and recall
  them.

  Wish details of objects (shadows of) listed in FIND RESULTS were shown.

  Wish system editor wouldn't ask the what type a file is when it is
  saved.  Why can't it know; why does it need to know?

  Wish Drive Tree View would remember which subdirectory trees had last
  been expanded.

  Wish there was a way to convert Windows icons.

  Desktop Settings/Lockup page 2/Image/File: wish a different drive and
  directory could be specified.


QUESTIONS

  A color scheme was dropped on a particular window, but later want to
  change colors system-wide.  Using ALT to drop scheme changes all but
  the windows that had their individual schemes changed (probably good
  idea).  Is there a way to reset those windows to use system-wide
  settings?

  Is there a way to setup a Windows application that requires several
  DOS TSR's to be loaded before Windows (would have been) started?  Can
  specify device drivers and they seem to load ok.
From: june@f308.n133.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed June)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: VGA Sync program
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:02:16 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:133/308 - Information Overloa, Riverdale GA



I recently recieved the following file. Has anyone used this? Is there a potential danger?


 NAME
    vgasync - Keep VGA sync polarities negative

 SYNOPSIS
    detach vgasync

 DESCRIPTION
    'vgasync' runs as a background process under OS/2 and periodically
 (re)sets the horizontal and vertical sync polarities of an (S)VGA card to
 negative sync.

    Many (all?) SVGA cards change the polarities of the H and V sync
 signals to indicate to an assumed multisync monitor the current video mode
 (and implied scan frequencies). 'vgasync' allows older fixed-frequency
 monitors that require a fixed sync polarity to be used with such SVGA
 cards without requiring hardware modification of the sync signals.  With
 the addition of manual sync controls on the monitor and/or a means (eg.
 software drivers) of tweaking the VGA CRT control registers, a "fixed
 frequency" monitor can then display most of the SVGA extended video modes.

    This program requires IOPL to run.





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