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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: States of U.S.A.
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:58:08 GMT
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1aqeo0INNdgj@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:
> In article <1992Oct5.143540.22576@lgc.com> ajj@zycor.lgc.com (Andrew Jackson) writes:
...
>>Conneticut
>>	Capital: Hartford
>>	Larger Cities: New Haven	Not sure which is largest city
> 
> Hartford is bigger than New Haven, but Bridgeport is bigger than them both.
> 
> Don't forget that Worcester, MA is the second-largest city in New England.
> And Providence, RI is the largest metro area without any major sports
> franchise, as well as being the second-largest METRO AREA in New England.

	Foxboro isn't that far away :).

Brett                                                      
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From: altman@RIGEL.LCS.MIT.EDU (Arthur Altman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.jewish,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.usa.constitution
Subject: Re: Role Of Jewish Media In Shaping Our Politics
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:35:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Oct1.143504.18721
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

It must be comforting to be able to shut off one's brain and attribute
all the problems of the country (and presumably the world) to a
conspiracy.  However, you don't have it quite right, since even 3% of
the US is way too many people to run a good subversive organization.
Actually, the International Zionist
Bankers/Media/Doctors/Lawyers/ShowBiz Conspiracy and Bowling League,
Inc., is owned and operated by me and my brother-in-law.  And I wanna
tell ya, manipulating virtually every aspect of daily life in the United
States is keeping us both much too busy, but, hey, it's a living.

B. Badenov
Governments Toppled, Economies Destroyed, Chimneys Swept, Bagels Sliced
"Over 5753 years in business"
From: laudw@warwick.ac.uk (Chris Lowe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: American Kultur...
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:25:52 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.usa.
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

Following the `culture` argument,of course the usa has got a great
literary and musical culture,but I reckon the problem is that American
culture is probably seen in wider terms as bloody Mcdonalds,Pepsi and
Madonna along with your pathetic television creations,these
have been your major exports and they are all crap !!!!
destroy these foul creations and send us some proper culture then we
might just begin to take you seriously !!!!


Yours.
CB.
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Americans! *smile*
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:07:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.203158.773@dscomsf.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>I have met very few US citizens who subscribe to the "principles" of Common
>cause or People for the American way. Most of the US citizens I know believe
>that freedom and justice are the right of all peoples and that the US has a
>monopoly on neither the practice  nor the disemination of such ideas.
>
>Groups that wrap themselves in the flag do so for one reason - because what they
>preach is so disgusting that they know that they need something to hide behind.

OK.  Give me an example of something that People for the American Way preaches
which is so disgusting that they have to hide it.
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: Re: American Kultur...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: soc.culture.usa.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:34:31 GMT

In article <vj7qb7pd@csv.warwick.ac.uk> laudw@warwick.ac.uk (Chris Lowe) writes:
>Following the `culture` argument,of course the usa has got a great
>literary and musical culture,but I reckon the problem is that American
>culture is probably seen in wider terms as bloody Mcdonalds,Pepsi and
>Madonna along with your pathetic television creations,these
>have been your major exports and they are all crap !!!!
>destroy these foul creations and send us some proper culture then we
>might just begin to take you seriously !!!!

Why must culture be highbrow to be worthy of export??  And if those things are
so "pathetic", why do they appeal to billions of people around the world??
There must be something to them...

It seems to me that the big accomplishment of American culture is to take
ordinary people seriously, unlike much of the cultures of the rest of the
world, where "culture" seems to be intended to appeal to an educated elite.

>
>
>Yours.
>CB.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.jewish,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.usa.constitution
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Role Of Jewish Media In Shaping Our Politics
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:44:42 GMT

arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
#dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
##
##Hey, shouldn't it be "Zionist Media"? OOOPS!
##
##And what's happening here anyway? Schmidling posted nearly the same thing
##some time ago. Shame on you, Arfie!
##
##If Bush manages to win with these guys on his side it would certainly
##be his greatest achievment :-)!
#
#
#Most amazing.  I have not even read scj for several weeks much less
#posted anything and the first posting I read is Keren trashing me again.

I wasn't even answering to you - the article was posted by someone
else, but appeared under your signature some time ago. 

-Danny Keren.


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From: th2_oate@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Tom Oates)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.vietnamese,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Make a friend today, send a postcard to Oz ...
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:08:03 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England

Could this be a hoax - a bit like the cookie recipe someone paid
$100 dollars for? Maybe not, I'm just being cynical.

-- 
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From: jhuang@futon.SFSU.EDU (Jason C. Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: ASCII picture request
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:52:12 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

                              
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Subject: room
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:43:39 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Inches, Ounces, Fahrenheit, and Drab Looking MoneySCDOWN
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:29:59 GMT

	An interesting example of U.S. vs. Metric:

	I am a library student.  My cataloging class was cataloging a map of
the state of Nebraska.  It did not list a scale.  Having a somewhat 
mathematical mind, I took a ruler (Metric/U.S.), placed the metric side on the
kilometer scale, and in less than thirty seconds had computed the scale, 
1:1,000,00.  All it took was figuring out how many zeros to add after the one.
A fellow classmate, arguing that it wasn't precise enough, had the scale 
figured in U.S. measurements.  One inch equalled 1.6 miles.  I then showed 
the professor and the rest of the class how to multiply by one (see below), 
and after three minutes and the use of the calculator, discovered that the 
scale was one million something.  

	I learned the metric system in grade school (c.1981).  It wasn't used
much in real life until I took a biology class in 1983.  If the country changed
overnight to the Metric System, I could survive, and would be willing to bet
that most Americans would adapt as well.  The nice thing about change is that
those who won't change with the times eventually die out, or watch society pass
them by.  

	I believe that the U.S. and Liberia are the only countries who have not
embraced the Metric System.

	Torsten at Omaha
From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:07:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Make a friend today, send a postcard to Oz ...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa

In soc.culture.usa, th2_oate@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Tom Oates) writes:

> Could this be a hoax - a bit like the cookie recipe someone paid
> $100 dollars for? Maybe not, I'm just being cynical.

        Yes. It sounds as though you are being cynical. ;-)

        The guy isn't asking for money, just postcards. I really hope he
gets deluged with them.       


//rks



Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.misc,talk.environment,alt.activism,soc.culture.african.american,dc.general
From: dbrooks@penge.osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: America has culture?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:29:00

crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes:
>In article <templef.16.0@columbia.dsu.edu> templef@columbia.dsu.edu (Fred Temple) writes:
>>culture.usa is an oxymoron!
>
>Ironically, one component of American culture is the belief that the U.S.
>doesn't have a culture.  By making this assertion Fred is simply following the
>dictates of his culture.

The U.S. has *a* culture, which is trivially true.  But I think the beliefs
to which the stupid little boy is trying to allude are (a) the U.S. doesn't
have culture (demonstrably false) and (b) there are no specifically U.S.
cultural achievements (also demonstrably false).

Counterexamples form a long list. To (a): orchestras (pro and amateur),
theaters, museums, dance companies, and so on, everywhere you look,
thriving.  To (b): jazz, movies, the Concord writers, Lloyd Wright, Martha
Graham, on and on and on.
--
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Four more months!  Four more months!
From: rnt@druwa.ATT.COM (Bob Thomas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: American Kultur...
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:30:47 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.usa.

in article <vj7qb7pd@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, laudw@warwick.ac.uk (Chris Lowe) says:
> Nntp-Posting-Host: lily
> 
> Following the `culture` argument,of course the usa has got a great
> literary and musical culture,but I reckon the problem is that American
> culture is probably seen in wider terms as bloody Mcdonalds,Pepsi and
> Madonna along with your pathetic television creations,these
> have been your major exports and they are all crap !!!!
> destroy these foul creations and send us some proper culture then we
> might just begin to take you seriously !!!!

Whether pompus people like you take us seriously is of
little consequence to me.  There's obviously a market for
pathetic television creations, Pepsi, and McDonalds (known
colloqually as Club Mac) in the UK.  It may also surprise
you to learn that many Americans, such as myself, detest
McDonalds, loath most television shows, and prefer Coca-Cola.

Bob
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.folklore.urban
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: What time is it at the North Pole?
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<1992Sep18.153601.28981@fwi.uva.nl>
	<CINDY.92Sep19150926@solan10.solan.unit.no>
	<1992Sep21.050853.1092@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:00:49

Derek Tearne writes (in an ancient posting i'm finally getting around
to reading):
>In article <CINDY.92Sep19150926@solan10.solan.unit.no>
>cindy@solan10.solan.unit\.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
>>
>>To the original poster: there's this thing called a map that you
>>may want to look into some day.  Not only is it full of useful
>>information, but it is available in bright colored versions that
>>are just the thing for covering up ugly walls.
>
>GIF GIF GIF!
>
>Derek "I like the ones with the Southern Hemisphere on top best" Tearne

Er, GIF?  You can find a map yourself, luv 8-)

See, i was living in an apartment in Pittsburgh (of course), a place
in a really old building that had once had fireplaces in it.  When
the building was renovated (to use the term loosely), the world's
least efficient gas heating system was installed.  The fireplaces were
ripped out and the chimneys covered by a crude box of
lumber-yard-closeout genuine fake wood panelling.  Then all the inside
walls of the building were painted and a special act was passed by
the Pittsburgh City Council, to forbid anyone from ever painting the
walls again.  (This was the same act that decreed that Mayor Sophie
Maslov's microphone would always be turned up so that her voice came
out at ten decibels about any comfortable level.)

So on the genuine fake wood panelling box in the living room, we hung
a Mercator projection north-on-top map of the world.  On the genuine
fake wood paneling wall that was added to create the illusion of an
extra bedroom, i hung a map of Norway.  And on the genuine fake wood
panelling box in my bedroom, i hung a map of Trondheim.  That's what i
was referring too.  Thrilling, isn't it?

ObUL: Chewing lutefisk in front of a mirror in a darkened room causes
the ghost of Disraeli to appear.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway

Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: Inches, Ounces, Fahrenheit, and Drab Looking MoneySCDOWN
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:09:44 GMT

In article <BvLnAy.Cz4@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden) writes:
>From article <1992Oct4.002030.1627@lub001.lamar.edu>, by lumensa@lub001.lamar.edu (Dale Parish):
>> What confuses Americans is continuing to try to think in this antiquated
>> system rather than just accepting that x meters is x meters and not
>> 3.281x feet. 
>
>   As a Brit (age 23) I was taught the metric system in school, the only
>   time I use the imperial system is when describing people's height or
>   weight. I happend to do this while speaking to a danish friend and
>   she did'nt have a clue what I was talking about, and quoted the story
>   of the English professor who gave the speed of light in furlongs per
>   fortnight!
>   Getting back to my point since I was taught the metric system in
>   school, and I'm sure everyone of my age was, I'm quite comfortable
>   with it. I'm curious as to what is taught in US schools now and what
>   people of my age were taught, the metric or Imperial systems.
>   I ask this as some US text books I've read refer to the English
>   system of unit, i.e., meaning pounds,ounces etc when we are now
>   taught the metric system.
>
>		    Dave.
>
I grew up in the Midwest in the US (St. Louis, Missouri).  In grade school
we were taught mostly in the English measurement system (though no real
'hard core' stuff like real science was taught for the most part.  
Incidentally I am talking about the 1974-1980 time frame).

Whenever we were taught science, it was ALWAYS in metric.  In fact, I feel
totally out of the water when doing physical calculations in the English
system.  

As far as myself (I am sure many people around my age as well) only would
use (and feel most comfortable using) the English system is:

1.  Height and Weight.
2.  Fuel Efficiency
3.  Distances between cities/landmarks (though often as not it is expressed
	as time to somewhere:  2 hours outside of CITY is LANDMARK)
4.  Cooking

IN my profession and studies I have always used the metric system, and feel
the most comfortable using metric.



-- 
Brent L. Irvine					"Dyslexics of the World
irvine@decwa.ece.uiuc.edu			UNTIE!"		- Kral Mrax

Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: gerard@caliban.soest.hawaii.edu (Gerard Fryer)
Subject: Re: Inches, Ounces, Fahrenheit, and Drab Looking Money
Organization: Scum Of the Earth and Senile Tenured
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:54:59 GMT

In article <DANIELS.92Sep25181732@emu.apollo.hp.com>, daniels@apollo.hp.com (Stewart Daniels) writes:
[stuff deleted]

|> That is true, but given that road signs can be in either feet, yards
|> or miles, it would be nice if conversion between the three didn't
|> require knowing a series of irregular multiplication factors.  I have
|> a lot of trouble visualising distances in feet or yards, and always
|> end up converting the distances to meters (actually, given that my
|> rule of thumb conversion rate for yards to meters is 1:1, I 'spose I
|> don't really have much trouble visualising distances in yards).
|> 

Actually, yards are seldom used in road signs.  It has always amazed me
that you see things like "Detour 1500 feet."  Why the aversion to
yards?  Could it be that that would make the change to the metric
system easier?
-- 
Gerard Fryer  (g.fryer@soest.hawaii.edu)
School of Ocean & Earth Science & Technology
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva)
Subject: Re: Americans! *smile*
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:21:49 GMT

 (Jon Corelis) writes:
>@morrow.stanford.edu>
>(Holly Silva) writes: 
>           
>
>> Jon Corelis writes:
>>>
>>>                          ...   never since the day I was born has the
>>>flag of patriotism in my country been run up for any causes other than
>>>the suppression of progressive dissent, the enforcement of obience to
>>>establishment dictates, and the furtherance of brutal and selfish
>>>overseas military adventures.
>> 	
>>	And this is very much the fault of our self-hating, craven
>>Liberal wing. ...               
>
>   It takes an astonishing intellectual nimbleness to construct or to
>follow a train of logic purporting to demonstrate that it is American
>leftists and liberals who are responsible for the ideology that enabled,
>supported, and continues to praise America's famous victory over
>Grenada, heroic conquest of Panama, and altruistic invasion of Syria.  
>-- 

	It sure is their responsibility, insofar as they have failed
to present a desirable alternative to the American people. The wide-
spread common-man's perception of Liberal's and the American left as
a collection of over-educated, sanctimonious whiners is far too close 
the truth.	
	The American Left has done a lousy job of fighting the right
wing and its anti-pinko propaganda brigades. They are setting themselves
up to do an equally incompetent job of fighting the Right over its
latest cause celebre, family values! Hollywood's smug, self-satisfied
rant in the face of Dan-boy Qualye's attack on Murphy Brown was frankly
a great big gift to the Right-wingers and their new pet cause. 

	The left and liberal side of this nation's political spectrum
has allowed itself to be silenced, has willfully alienated itself from
the bulk of the population. It takes no intellectual nimbleness on my
part to condemn failure, and my condemnation of the Left is rooted in
it's failure --- failure to really address the needs of the greater
population and to do so in a positivist manner.

>Jon Corelis               jon@lindy.stanford.edu
>Stanford University       BITNET:  BR.JGC@RLG.STANFORD.EDU 


--
======================================================================
|| Holly Silva			I have nothing terribly clever to say||
|| Applied Earth Sciences	today.  You're in luck.		     ||
|| Stanford University						     ||
From: emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Inches, Ounces, Fahrenhei
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:36:00 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

<137315@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>
Reply-To: emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH
Keywords: 

In article <137315@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
>In article <1473@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM
(Elizabeth Molinaro) writes:
>>        Our coins should have their numerical value
>>        stated, IN NUMERALS, on them:  a dime, for instance
>>        contains no visual clue that it is worth 10 cents
>>        except for the words "one dime"; the same is true
>>        for the nickel ("one nickel" not 5 cents or a "5")
>>        penny, quarter, etc.
>
>It's true about the dime, but not about the other coins -- at least,
>not exactly.  Here's what they say:

        That'll teach me for commenting without evidence (I truly
        was out  of cash that day!)

        BUT...and you knew it was coming, didn't you?!  ;)

>  Ed says: However, if one knew only very
>basic English (and also knew that there are 100 cents in a dollar)
>than he or she could figure out the value of the penny, nickel, and
>quarter very easily.  
         ^^^^^^^^^^^
        I do not believe this:  look at the point size of the "five
        cents" slogan!!!!

        It was, anyway, just a comment passed on by some of my
        foreign friends.  They find it difficult...

        But, hey, this user-friendly/self-evidency thing can be
        carried just too damn far, right?!  : >    

        Elizabeth