From: f0g1@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Prasad Gokhale)
Subject: Re : The World and Saunskrut
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:53:09 GMT

From: podurys@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Podury Satyanarayan)
Subject: The World and Sanskrit (Re: On the existence of Paramatma)

Podury Satyanarayan writes :
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On a(n) (un)related note:

Interesting Sanskrit language origin of some English words:
(The following is only IMO; netters would disagree. No flames, please).

prophet:  'prabhat', meaning the coming of dawn.

Jesus:  "isha", meaning God in Sanskrit.  I believe, in Germany, the letter
         'J' is pronounced as 'I'.  So, 'Jesus' would be pronounced as
         'Isus'.  The similarity is apparent.  (Any knowledgeable netter out
          there who could throw more light on this?)
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     Jesus Christ is (probably) an alt-pronounciation of Iesus Krishna.
     The ending "eesh" can be identified in many names like Herculus and
     Megasthenes which may be "Hari-cula-eesh" (signifying a incarnation
     in the line of Hari) and "Megha-sthan-eesh" (connoting a Lord of
     the region of clouds). Christos, a ancient Egyptian deity, as per
     Spencer Lewis was the name of the many of the former Avatars, i.e.,
     incarnations. Here is interesting observation by Spencer Lewis :

     "..the title Christos had been used in the mystery schools and
     in the Orient for the name and title of many of the former
     Avatars. Christos originally came from one of the Egyptian deities.
     ...The Egyptian dipthong 'KH' is a highly aspirated 'H' and by
     Greeks is usually transcribed as 'X' and vice versa. The value of
     Greek 'X' is transcribed as 'Ch'. The KHeru of the Egyptians would
     therefore be 'Cheru' or 'CH-R'. These later letters form the
     famous 'XP' of the early Christians...."

     This is a very important point. It clearly shows that 'X' is the
     Greek syllable which represents Sanskrut 'Chr' in the name of
     Chrisn (alias 'KHr' or 'KHrsn') It follows that Christmas is
     written as "X-mas" and commemorates Krishna. The letters 'XP'
     stand for the Vedic Deity "Chrisna Purshottam". Ever wondered
     why other 'religions' are all "ism-s" while the term Chirstianity
     ends with "..ity" ? The term could be "Chrisna-neety" , that is
     the way of life as preached by Chrisna.

     More can be written on the striking similarities between the
     personalities, Krishna and Christ. Consider a few terms associated
     with the Christian tradition :

                               Sanuskrut
                               ---------
     1. Pope              1. Papa-ha (absolver from Sin)
     2. Vatican           2. Vatica (Hermitage)
     3. (Pope's) Edict    3. aadishtam (Directive)
     4. Apostle           4. Aapasthal (moving from place to place)
     5. Saint             5. Santa (Saint)
     6. pontiff           6. pan-taha (supervises rituals ?)
     7. Priest            7. Purohit
     8. Abbot             8. A(Bhat) (priest)
     9. Genesis           9. Janma-ha
    10. Nemesis          10. Nama-shesh
    11. Church           11. Churcha (religious discourse)
     Also,
    12. Deity             9. Devata
    13. Divinity         10. Deva-neety (similar to Chrisna-neety).

    P.N. Oak further writes : " In India the four Shankaracharyas
    fulfill a role as that of the Pope. The institution of the
    Shankaracharya was founded in 600 B.C (and not in the 800 A.D
    as is erroneously believed). The Pope was the Shankaracharya
    for the European region of world Hindudom ...."

Podury Satyanarayan writes :
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Also, is there a word 'brua', or 'bhruva' in Sanskrit?  I believe it
means 'language', or some similar meaning.  If it does, then there is
another interesting word-derivation.  The word 'hebrew' means 'shiva brua',
or 'shiva's language'.  Now, I was told by this philosopher (indian), that
Jewism is basically a religion following a reincarnation of Shiva.  In the
middle-east and the Europian continent, people pronounce 's' as 'h'.
Therefore, 'shiva (or siva)' would be pronounced as 'hiva'. (Another
example of this, Sindhustan is pronounced as Hindustan).
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     Here is one more interesting derivation. Hebrew could be broken
     as Heri-brew. Bruva in Saunskrut signifies speech and the first
     syllable in Hebrew, i.e., 'He' is an abbreviation of the divine
     name (Encyclopedia Judaica). Hence the term Hebrew signifies a
     divine language, i.e., language of Lord Hari alias Lord Krishna.
     The term Jerusalem can be spelled as Yerushaleim alias
     Yedu-ishalayam signifying the township of Lord Krishna. Likewise
     the term Israel may be "Ishwar-alay" ,i.e., the abode of Lord (Shri
     Krishna).  The "Judaists" of today are the descendents of the
     Yedu clan of Shree Krishna (Yeduists) who migrated to different
     parts ofthe World when Dwaraka was swallowed by the ocean after the
     Great Mahabharat War. (Refer to "World Vedic Heritage" by P.N Oak
     for further reading.)

Podury Satyanarayan writes :
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Again, there is a native pueblo-indian (?) language, there is a word
called 'Kiva'. (I know this because of a software package by this name
that I have used in the past).  Now, 'Kiva' means an oblong stone, half
buried in the ground, and used by the natives in some religious ceremonies.
Does the object sound familiar?  I think it represents the 'sivalinga',
which for us represents Shiva(siva).  Let's look at this word 'Kiva'
from another angle.  In English, sometimes the letter 'c' is pronounced
as the letter 'k'.  As in 'cat', catch'.  There are other times when it
is pronounced as 's'. As in 'century', certain'.  So, if we write the
word 'Siva' as 'Civa', some people may pronounce 'Civa' as 'Siva',
while others, not knowing the origin of the word, may pronounce
'Civa' as 'Kiva'!  In whatever way one may pronounce the word, it
still seems to represent an object similar to the sivalinga.  This
seems to show, albiet very weakly, the the presence/influence of
Siva/Hinduism on this continent.
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     To continue the thread of words in English derived from words
     in Saunskrut (or maybe the other way ?), a small comparison
     is presented below :

     1. Apple            (A) Ple           (Fruit)
     2. Apothecary       (A) Pathecary     (Chemist/Druggist)
     3. Assassin         (A) Sahassin      (adventurer)
     4. Able             (A) Ble (Bal)     (Strength)
     5. Abbot            (A) Bbot (Bhat)   (priest)
     6. Abraham          (A) Bramha        (Progenitor)
     7. Aqua             (A) Qua           (Water)

     Simply eliminating "A" from the English words, the words
     are seen to be Sanskrut, the meaning remaining identical.

     Here is a very good comaprison between different languages.
     The two tables below were sent to me by my friend. The table got
     all mixed up in the mail. The languages associated with the words
     may not be correct. Maybe someone will confirm the same.

    Engl. Ol'Pers(?) Latin    Greek     Russian  Saunskrut
    ----     ---     -----    -----     -------  ---------
     one     an      unus      heis      odin     eka
     two     twa     duo       duo       dva      dvau
     three   threo   tres      treis     tri      trayas
     four    feower  quattuor  tessares  chetyre  catvaras
     five    fif     quinque   pente     pyat'    panca
     six     siex    sex       hex       shest'   sas
     seven   seofon  septem    hepta     sem'     sapta
     eight   eahta   octo      okto      vosem'   ashtau
     nine    nigon   novem     ennea     devyat'  nava
     ten     tien    decem     deka      desyat'  dasha


    Words for near relatives:
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    English  Ol'Pers(?)  Latin  Greek    Russian  Saunskrut
    -------  ---------   -----  -----    -------  ---------
     mother    mothor    mater  mater     mat'     mater
     father    fadar     pater  pater     otets    pitar-
     sister    sweostor  soror  adelphe   sestra   svasar-
     brother   brothor   frater phrater   phrater  bhratar-
     daughter  dohtor    filia  thugater  doch'    duhitar-
     son       sunu      filius huios     syn      sunus

     The later list (and more) is also given in "The Story of
     Civilization" by Wiiliam Durant. A partial explanation of the
     similarities is also given by W. Hunter in "The Great Events by
     Famous Historians". W. Hunter writes " ...The languages of
     Europe and India, though at first sight they seem wide apart, are
     merely different growths from the original Aryan speech...The
     ancient religions of Europe and India had a common origin.."
     If so, what was the common denominator to both these cultures ?
     What was the language and religion of the so-called Aryan race?

     A few more derivations ....

         English       Saunskrut
         -------       ---------
     1.   Truth         Ruth
     2.   Untruth       Anruth (Unruth)
     3.   School        Shala
     4.   College       Shala-ja (one step above 'Shala')
     5.   Community     Samooha-neety
     6.   Dentistry     Danta-shastra
     7.   Trigonometry  Triguna-matra (Measurement in 3-D)
     8.   Jupiter       Devas-Piter
     9.   Longitivity   Lamba-jeeva-itee
    10.   Prophylactic  Pra-phalaktic

    Let this chain of words continue....

    P.N Oak's "World Vedic Heritage" has numerous such words.
    I suggest it for further reading.

    Yet, it can be argued upon which came first : English of Saunskrut ?
    Netters have posted various articles giving the date of the
    Mahabharat War (around 3000 B.C, 3138 B.C or one scholar P.V Vartak
    from Pune reckons the date to be November 15, 5515 B.C using
    astronomical data from various sources!). If this is researched
    further and the occurance of the War confirmed through different
    techniques, historical datings would change greatly. Life on earth,
    civilization, religion and language of humanity, etc. would need
    to be reviewed and researched.....Anyway.

    In the end, " Saint James Independent School" can be written as..
                "Santa Yamas Unphandanta Shala" !!!!

    On a different note, D.Chaplin in her book " Keltic and Hindu
    Links" (from memory) mentions that Canada derives its name from a
    ancient Vedic scholar "Kanaada".

    -Prasad Gokhale