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From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: Is there a compatable dog breed to get alon
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:28:30 GMT

In article UeZBufi00iUzE1E30U@andrew.cmu.edu, "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>Hello everyone,  I have been following the thread on introducing dogs
>and cats.  The story regarding the Husky sure scared me.  My husband and
>I are planning on getting a dog when we get a house (not for a few years
>yet). We have a 1 year old neutered, declawed male cat.  Are there
>certain dog breeds to avoid?!  Does anyone have
>recommendations/experiences with breeds that have had little problems? 

We had all sorts of different breed dogs in our family while I was
growing up and my parents currently have/had the following breeds at
one time:  standard poodle, german shepherd, doberman mixture and husky
(all around 50-75 pounds).  They also have cats.  All these dogs were
introduced into the family as puppies and have never had a problem with
getting along with the cats.

Then my parents adopted two adult golden retrievers who appeared at
their rural gate.  They have only one outdoor cat now but the
retrievers went straight after him with obvious intentions to do harm.
In all other respects the retrievers are as sweet and gentle as can
be.  My mother is reasonably sure that she will eventually get them to
accept the cat (who is no sissy but highly respectful of large teeth).
Right now the retrievers live on the "lower pad" fenced in area away
from the house except for monitored visits.

One key to success, I think, is bringing dogs into a cat household as
puppies.  Or if you adopt an adult dog, see if his background includes
growing up with cats.  It may not be quite so much a matter of breed as
environment.  I did note that of all of the different dogs the only one
who really wanted to play with the cat was the husky.  But the husky
never hurt the cat, he just wanted to play "chase". Then one day the cat
turned on the husky and the chase went in reverse real fast!  It's
really fun to watch a large dog backing away from a leaping/hopping cat
who is deliberately turning the table on him.

Good Luck!

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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,news.answers
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Subject: it's been grand...
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:17:57 GMT


Our net feed is about a week behind, so I may or may not be seeing
any more wonderful postings to reply to in the next three or
four days...

I wanted to say to my two favorite groups that I've really enjoyed
reading and posting with you for the last six months and I will
miss you all. I was just here on a contract, and the way of all
contractors is that the contract ends. In my case, I ended it
a few months early, because I had a 70-mile round-trip drive each
day, and I came down with a mild case of breast cancer which 
gets in the way of making that drive--but I'm OK, I can keep
working during my treatment, I've been writing about the whole
experience for the local paper regularly for weeks and weeks, and
hope to turn it into a book next year--watch for it in mid or late 
1993 if I can get a publisher. Anyhow, I just can't keep making
this drive while also going to the hospital every weekday for
radiation for 6 weeks starting the day after Labor Day, and going 
once a week for chemotherapy, two weeks on, two weeks off, for
six months.

But not having this job means no net feed. I don't have another
job lined up yet, so I am not even going to try and find out
about paying for it on my own at home--I'll miss you all. Rec.gardens
and rec.pets.cats are two of the most warm, human, funny, and wise
groups on the net. And so civilized!

Anybody who wants to just through August 20 can e-mail me: 
UUCP: ....!{ncar!noao!enuucp | att}!gtephx!machanicm
Internet: gtephx!machanicm@enuucp.eas.asu.edu

Or anybody can call me at (602) 582-7374 at work through the 20th, 
or anytime at home at (602) 496-8414, or you can write to me at:

Mindy Machanic, 12009 S. 45th St., Phoenix, AZ 85044
             
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experience and medical facts, for yourself or for someone you love, send
a business-size or larger self-addressed stamped envelope with 4 stamps 
on it, and I will send you copies of the 5 articles to date.

(And if you need a great professional writer, or an organizational
development and training specialist in TQM for service, education and 
government organizations, I'm available....)

It's been divoon... 

-- 
Mindy
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From: cyn@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Cyndi Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Flushable litter isn't
Date: 20 Aug 1992 21:19:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MD Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Aug20.193456.17054@mahendo.jpl.nasa.gov>, julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
 
> Well, I used to use flushable kitty litter but never flushed it
> for the fear of clogging the toilet.  I used it because I thought
> the idea of clumping "pee balls" that could easily be scooped was
> neat.  But I have since quit using it ever since one disasterous
> day.  I scooped out about a zillion pee balls and put them on
> a paper plate which would transfer them to the trash.  (Paper
> plates were easy.  Paper bags require very deft maneuvering 
> of the scooper).  Well, as I was walking across the kitchen
> floor, the paper plate slumped and I had pee balls ALL OVER
> THE KITCHEN FLOOR!  Those things both rolled and disintegrated
> all at once.  Never, never again.
I use the plastic bags that newspapers come in (long, skinny bags a few 
inches longer than and usually, around here at least, a little smaller around
than a bread bag - which I have also used for this purpose, after the bread 
was eaten, of course 8>)!).
I fold the top down so that the bag is about 5 or 6 inches long and just 
scoop the "pee-balls", etc. into the bag, unfolding the bag as needed.
I then tie a knot in the bag and can sometimes get a second "load" in.
This works great and has the added benefit of reusing those plastic bags
that would probably be thrown away otherwise.
> Julie
> #include "std_disclaimer.h"
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All opinions are mine, I tell you, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE (unless 
you want to rent them for a small fee...)
-Cyndi Smith-------------------cyn@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Info on Singapura(?) Breed
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:52:58 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <lis.714359629@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
> Actually, there seem to be a lot of new breeds out there.  Can anyone
> recommend a good recent book on cat breeds, with pictures, info on
> disposition, etcetera?

Legacy of the Cat, by Gloria Stephens.  Photos by Tetsu Yamazaki. Chronicle
  Books, 1990.  pb $15.  

I bought this one because of the *superb* photos (Yamazaki is incredibly
talented, and really captures cat personalities in the photos), but the
more I read in it, the more impressed I am with the text.  Good section
on genetics, too.  (As a biology teacher, I'm always looking for
real life genetic problems for my students.  They get as tired of
wrinkled and smooth peas and ABO blood groups as I do!)

Singapuras are seal agouti tabbies, supposedly the smallest of the
US recognized breeds.  Stephens says they are quiet and even-tempered,
loyal to owners but curious enough to accept strangers willingly.

Rounded head, big eyes and ears, kind of a compact body. "Semi-cobby"
in show terms.  As of the writing of the book, there were 27 US breeders
with a total of 250 cats, 40 in the breeding program.

Singapuras look like cats I could really like... (Hey, what am I saying?
I've never met a member of the Felidae (cat family) I didn't like!)

Kay Klier
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Anyone use `reusable' cat litter?
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:13:43 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug21.140833.5912@aisb.ed.ac.uk>, tina@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Christina Scott) writes:
> We've just bought a `cat loo' (something we've never seen in Scotland - we
> got it in London) but are finding it really smelly.  I don't know if you're
> familiar with them but it consists of two trays, one on top of the other.
> The top tray contains the special litter and has thin slits through to the
> bottom tray.  Urine is supposed to drop through to the bottom tray being
> deodorised on the way by the litter (and then not smell because it's in the
> bottom and covered) 
   Hah!

> and solid waste can be scooped out  The lower tray is 
> cleaned out regularly and the litter rinsed with cold water.
> WHY does the whole thing STINK then?!  We've checked the two trays are tightly
> fitting.  HELP?!

The urine is going to sit in that bottom tray and the bacteria are going to
decompose it.  And it will stink.  I think the idea works pretty well in
desert climates where the urine dries enough to concentrate it to the point
that bacteria don't grow well, but I kinda wonder about a humid climate
like Edinburgh.

You might try adding a handful of salt to the bottom tray to get the
salt concentration up high enough to slow the bacteria, or maybe
some chlorine bleach...

Kay Klier   Biology Dept  UNI
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:56:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

.... and .... Christopher Rat (as in "Where's Christopher at?") 

8^)

Kathy
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Ghost cat
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:16:43 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

Friday nite, heard a noise like a dog whining, opened back door, there's 
Truffle and a GHOST CAT making dog noises at each other.....The ghost cat 
was Snoopy from next door, who is almost totally white and was weirdly lit 
by the street lamps: kinda glowed, and you couldn't see any detail, just the 
outline and eyes.

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From: bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:34:29 GMT
Subject: Thanks (Was: Some advice needed - First Post)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

I want to thank all the kind kitty owners for giving me some wonderful
suggestions about Sox and Sparky.  (Sox was the one who jumped on counters
stealing anything foodlike.)  I got suggestions that included double sided tape
and Karo/Tobassco mixture and water.  All will be tried and Sox WILL be 
cured....   

Thanks again everyone.   Phil Bearce - Reluctant lover of Sox-a-buns and 
				       the Spark-man.


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: fy@lucid.com (Frank Yellin)
Subject: Re: How to turn an outdoor kitty to an indoor kitty?
Organization: Lucid, Inc., Menlo Park, CA
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:22:20


In article <seWDzYC00iUyM1AMgO@andrew.cmu.edu> "Susan R. Wagner"
<sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: 

>   I have a friend who is trying to teach her cat to be an indoor cat. . . 

The San Francisco S.P.C.A. gives out a little booklet in which they
recommend the its-always-raining technique.  But it requires the help of a
friend.

Everytime the cat wants to go out, have the friend sneak outside, get a
garden hose with a spray attachment, and make it so that it is "raining"
hard outside that door.  It's best if the friend can hide.  Then let the
cat out.

The cat will soon learn that you have Seattle-like weather.

I haven't tried this myself.  But it may be worth a try.

-- Frank Yellin
   fy@lucid.com
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: It's Raining Out! (was RE: baths)
Keywords: wet raining cat fur damp sodden
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:26:32 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

>>In article <1992Aug12.173324.13273@ncar.ucar.edu>
>>vicki@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes [replied]:
>>>Oh, yes.  Don't you just love the looks on those little faces when you
>>>open the door to let them out and they stick a paw outside, only to
>>>discover that IT'S RAINING (or, worse indignity, SNOWING!).  They look
>>>at the outside, look at you, and almost implore you to make it stop!

  I always remember Roo's first encounter with rain.  We just happened
to be out in the garden when the rain started, and couldn't wait
to see how she reacted - what would it be?  We were expecting her
to run for the nearest cover, but to our suprise, she stopped
dead in her tracks and looked up, and then went completely wild
trying to catch the raindrops!!
  It only took her about a minute to realise that it was making her
wet, and then stormed off inside in a huff. 


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From: cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: tinea
Date: 22 Aug 92 05:28:31 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

I got ringworm on my thumb from our kittens.  They have had all the pills,
etc., and are now over it.  I keep putting this special cream on my thumb
and bandaging it.  When I take off the bandage I wash my hands a lot.
Then I dry my hands real well, put the cream on, and band aids.  I use the
band aids to keep it from spreading.  It is really just a couple of red
spots.  They keep moving around my thumb, like I'm getting rid of it one
place and getting it someplace else, all on the same thumb.

What I have read about it says to apply the cream and then 'wash your
hands to avoid spreading' the tinea.  But that is assuming you do not have it on
your HANDS.  Otherwise, you would wash off the cream you just applied, right?  

Has anybody ever had it on a hand like this?  What did you do?  Should I
not be bandaging it?  Any clues will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Alice
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 21 Aug 1992 18:02:33 CDT
From: Shawn E. Durham <U53064@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject:    mutant recurring roundworms

Help with this subject!  I'll condense a long and revolting problem
my ex-stray had.  For the past 1 1/2 years, he has been fighting
roundworm!  He's been treated many times, with three different
medications, including Strongid.

He'll be fine for a month or two at a time, then suddenly vomit a
young roundworm.  Finally, my vet sent the last worm to a parasitologist
at U of Illinois Veterinary Center for analysis.  This doctor told
my vet that he'd seen this problem frequently lately, and suspected
immature roundworms that were remaining in my cat's system, but were
not reproducing!  (All fecal analyses were negative, and were repeated
each time the cat was treated.)

He's been fine for a couple of months now.  Has ANYONE experienced
this strange phenomenon?  What was your vet's explanation?
Feel free to communicate with me directly.  Thanks!!
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   LIBRARY OF THE HEALTH SCIENCES
   UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT CHICAGO
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: thuyan@ravel.udel.edu (Thuy-An Hartman)
Subject: COUGH! COUGH! Scoopable catlitter dust
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:22:05 GMT

I am having a problem with my scoopable kitty litter.

The dust is everywhere!!  Has anyone else had this problem?
Are any brands better than others?  Any suggestions?

Thanks, Thuy-An
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Cataholics
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:47:49 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <1992Aug13.113239.8226@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy) writes:
>I saw a book in a NYC bookstore that was written as one of those
>self-help books for addictive personalities, and the addiction in
>question was CATS. All tongue-in-cheek (I think!) about letting
>go of this need for cat hair in everything etc.

Gotta try to find this book!  I'm in need of catherapy!

>
>And how do they get the hair on the clothes inside the dry cleaners bag?
Don't you know?  The dry cleaners save the hair that you bring in
and replace it after the cleaning.

>
>Carol Denehy
Related to Brian?  Tired of being asked?

Debbie Millard
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hui@apaturia.trl.OZ.AU (Alvaro Hui)
Subject: Tail stood up straight, what's up??
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:51:11 GMT

Hi,
	I brought my cat to a friend's house yesterday. When I
released her to wander around on the new floor, her tail stood up
straight all the time during the visit. What 's up?? At first
I thought she want to defecate but putting her on the litter
(My friend also owns a kitten) does not review any intention
of her wanting to defecate. Funny, funny....

BTW, She was back to normal when she was home!! 
(Jumping and chasing whatever is on the floor)

Alvaro,
a.hui@trl.oz.au
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From: jm0b@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Janet McMonagle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Terrified of Ceiling Fan!
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:40:52 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Aug19.172951.26514@cbnews.cb.att.com>, sandyb@cbnews.cb.att.com
(sandra.e.braun) writes:
>Hi.  I just moved to a house with a ceiling fan.  My cat Coco is absolutely
>terrified of it.  She will run out of the room and hide downstairs under the
>ironing board until it's turned off.  Then she sneaks back in the living
>room and stares at it for ~1 hour, just to make sure it's not going to turn
>on again.
>
>Any ideas?  I've been there two weeks and thought she might just get used to
>it, but no such luck.  I finally resorted to keeping it off, it seems so
>terrifying for her.  But, I would like to use it, it really is nice, and my
>other cat doesn't mind it a bit.  In fact she likes to lie underneath it
>and let the air blow on her.
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
>Sandy
>
The cat may never get used to the fan.  I have an otherwise FEARLESS cat who
is reduced to milktoast when we turn on our ceiling fan!
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Subject: Re: Cat likes cantelope???
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:06:03 GMT

In article <42150004@hplsla.hp.com>, tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns) writes:
> Does anyone else out there have a cat that loves _cantelope_??  As far
> as I know, no other veggies do this to him.  We keep a bowl of kitchen
> scraps that gets put on the compost pile occasionally, and if we put
> cantelope rind in it, Mittens will almost invariably dig it out and
> chew on it.  And he loves it if we cut up some of the inside flesh and
> give it to him.
> 

Huggy Bear will jump up and beg for cantalope. He adores the flesh. If we
have some rinds sitting in a bowl waiting to be carried to the trash, he
will jump up and gnaw on them. He's about 4.5 months old, and we discovered
this strange fancy about a month ago, right after he started getting bored
playing with grapes.
-- 
Mindy
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Mindy Machanic  (AG Communication Systems/Quality Engineering, Phoenix, AZ)               
(This space available for interesting messages and the usual disclaimers...)
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Sleeping with Cats
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:56:15 -0700
Distribution: world
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <5668007@harvee.billerica.ma.us>, scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator) writes:
> 
> In article <Bs7u4s.C8v@encore.com> dmillard@encore.com
> (Debbie Millard) writes:
> 
>> >Ever try to herd cats?
>> Isn't this fun?  I feel like I'm in an old Keystone Cops
>> movie every time I try to get all three out of my spare room
>> to close the door...one goes out, another goes in, one in my
>> arms, another running around the room...aaarrgghh...good thing
>> we love 'em so much:-)  
> this is why we almost never shut interior doors in our house.

My own reason for not shutting any doors...

My cats (Moustache & Pippin) have the idea that if they know a room exists,
they should be allowed into it - even if it means trying to tunnel in!
It's hell on the carpets!


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