From: ams@watson.ibm.com (Aaron Shtromas)
Subject: Re: Results: GP des Amerique
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 11:02:02 GMT
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From: John Koshel  <koshel@moe.optics.rochester.edu>
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Subject: GP des Ameriques

Hello-

Saw your posting about the GP - very nice.  I was at the race too, and must
have been near your area when Cornillet was caught.  The Festina guy up
there was Wegmuller - amazing that he could do this well after being off for
most of the race - he poured out tons of energy. 

  ... that's who it was! i never saw him up close before. i imagined him
      to be a much bigger guy
                                                  We walked around
the big loop - took a number of laps.  Their break was working very well -
on one lap Wegmuller dropped off the pace for some reason - maybe a flat.
He chased back on.  I thnik that this was around the 9th lap.  I don't know
if you saw the action down below.  First I saw Panasonic come to the front -
probably trying to protect Ludwig's WC 1st standing.

 ...and buclkler were up there too, trying to keep things under control

                                                     Motorola seemed to
be helping a little with that effort (maybe they were just guarding against
the possible chase group).  This consisted of Armstrong and Anderson being
in the top 8.  Panasonic was interested since Maassen was up there - that guy
does not look like a shabby climber (well, compared to me and my friends!).
Ariostea then put 4 guys up in the front - that never did a thing.  Then
on lap 9 or 10, the pack came thru on the downhill with 3 ONCE guys leading
the way.  On previous laps the pack had been pretty fat - with ONCE leading
it was stretched out - they were hauling.  They were trying to protect
Jalabert's overall WC position.  You may have noticed the 2 ONCE riders
between the break and the field - this was the remnants of that chase.  ONCE
really detonated the field. 

 ... quite right. having workers like hodge helps a lot.

                            I hear one of the ONCE riders that had been
doing the chase got to the bottom of the climb on the 10th or so lap - kind of
looked around, and just pulled a u-turn right there.

The race was great.  One of the guys I was with had done 8 laps of the course
in an amateur race a few years ago.  He said the initial pace up the climbs
was about their moderate to hard pace, but the pace on the fianl 3 times
was amazing.  I remeber when the group passed us right where it goes thru that
cut out section of the rock, and Bugno all of a sudden took off.  Everyone
responded as soon as he move, but they upped the pace dramatically.  I was
also impressed by Chiappucci's first effort - I think lap 3.  I guess he
launched the move and I also saw Leblanc helping out a lot.  I think this
move had about 15 to 20 riders in it, and this is the one that gave that
5 man group that stayed away so long.  Other things I saw:  Kelly and
Alcala hung out at the rear most of the day, Chaippucci did nothing really
after his first effort, Bugno rode near the front but never did too much
(maybe he was too well marked), Armstron rode in the top 10 of the field
most of the race but fell back to the back when the pace really jumped
(he still finished pretty well - he was probably a little tired), Hampsten
lost contact on the 10th climb I think (and bagged it),  Motorola rode
conservatively - trying to get off near the end of the race, Coors Light
got shelled with only rider finishing, Subaru-Montgomery rode ok with
Reiss placin near the front of the field, people went crazy when Bauer's
name was announced (he tried one effort but to no avail), and that you should
not put your head near or slightly over those metal barriers - a mirror from
one of the caravan vans knocked me in the temple.  It was on the 3rd or
4th climb and the van was going slow, but that sure did surprise me!  Also
do not bring your bike (I did not) - it was hard to move around and it looked
to be very silly and dangerous to me!  Also, the Clas team did an excellent
race by using the other teams - they never seemed to be doing the hard work,
but they gained the spoils.

Oh, I have no mail posting facilities here at the UofR, so I thought at least
you would be interested in my perception of the race.

John Koshel

i was also impressed with helvetia - had koechli had the cash to keep all
these riders, that team could score big, and often.

aaron
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