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Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: That alt.rap Ho!
From: dwrinkle@vax1.umkc.edu (--DJ Revolution--)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:00:55 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Yo, I dont know who the fuck that this trick ass bitch think she is, but
Im finnah stop the nonsense real quick...

POINT: What is a synthesizer, it is a device that alters sound 
electronically to produce music, most synthesizers have a medium
of either sound waveforms or pre-recorded samples, and I would
have to say that most people consider a synthesizer an instrument.
And undoubtedly it takes alot of skill to play, and it is quite
versatile in that you can emulate many other instruments with it.
Now, lets look at The Rap DJ's instrument, two turntables and a mixer
well at least generically, and what does the DJ do with the turntables,
he digs into his medium, which is his record collection.  Now most
DJs have a shitload of records, and to think of the number of 
built in sound 'waveforms' and samples on just one album, multiplied
by the number of albums gives a substantial amount of material to work
with, next the DJ has many ways to manipulate each individual sound
to suit the needs of the dynamic music they play, just watch a DJ
Miz, or a DJ Aladdin show to get verification on how many things you
can do with a single sound, plus you have multi-timbral sound with
Two turntables... I mean I could go on forever, I think the only
reason people say that DJ'ing isnt playing an instrument, is because
they play other instruments that just dont give you the 
versatility of this medium...

Man Im gonna stop the ramblin, before I blow a fuse
But You can bet I'll always be ready to stand up to the suckas!

One last note... in a recent Rolling Stone there was an article
defending rap, in which the writer brought up a famous quote
by Mozart, paraphrased it simply said that Mozart felt he was in the
infancy of music, because they were still classifying notes and
harmonies, etc... he said he saw a grand time in the future where
artists would make symphonys from combinging parts of other songs
instead of making individual notes into songs... 

Interesting Eh, maybe Mozart would have been a DJ today...
Grandmaster Wolfgang on the wheels of steel (*GRIN*)
-- 


See Ya'
DJ Revolution [CONTINUUM MUSIC]
Believe Dat'
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Hip Hop Questions....
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:07:12
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: crafts@athena.mit.edu's message of Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:40:40 GMT

>>>>> "Dan" == The Invisible Man <crafts@athena.mit.edu> writes:

  Dan> What singles would you all classify as being hip-hop classics? I'd vote for...

  Dan> "My philosophy" by Boogie Down Productions
Possibly, but "Poetry" is the definitive BDP cut.

  Dan> "Bring the Noise" by Public Enemy
  Dan> "Rebel Without a Pause" by Public Enemy
  Dan> "Fight the Power" by Public Enemy

I'd swap "Don't Believe the Hype" for "Bring the Noise" and add "Welcome to
the Terrordom".

  Dan> "Peter Piper" by Run DMC

Add in a couple of Whodini tracks for good effect "Five Minutes of Funk"
and "Freaks Come Out At Night" being my faves.

  Dan> "Go Stetsa part 1" by Stetsasonic
  Dan> "Children's Story" by Slick Rick
  Dan> "Roxanne, Roxanne" by UTFO

These are all middling to me. "Roxanne, Roxanne" launched a thousand
imitators but let's face it, it was a weak track.

  Dan> "La Di Da Di" by Doug E Fresh and Slick Rick

Definitely.

  Dan> "I ain't no joke" by Eric B and Rakim
  Dan> "Eric B for President" by Eric B and Rakim

Swap "I Ain't No Joke" for "My Melody". 

I'd also have to add:
Ice Cube	"Jackin for Beats"
Ice Cube	"Amerikka's Most Wanted"
Gangstarr	"Who's Gonna Take the Weight"
Biz Markie	"Nobody Beats the Biz"
LL Cool J	"Rock the Bells"
Run-DMC		"Rockbox"
Run-DMC		"Sucker MCs"
NWA		"Gangsta, Gangsta"
Big Daddy Kane	"Raw"
Big Daddy Kane	"Ain't No Half Steppin"
EPMD		"Strictly Business"
EPMD		"You a Customer"
Brand Nubians	"Slow Down"
Digital Underground 	"The Humpty Dance"
The Soulsonic Force	"Planet Rock"
--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: d06448@tanus.oz.au (Argyrios Karavis)
Subject: Latino hip Hop
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 05:45:11 GMT

Can anyone suggest some Latino Hip hop??? I've got Latin alliance and it's
hot. Would like other artists and albums to listen to.

Choc freak

INET: d06448@tanus.oz.au
From: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: SS
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:47:43 GMT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

What 'chall think of the Sister Souljah album that was dropped a few 
months ago?? I gave it a listen, and although some of her lyrics were 
happenin' I couldn't stand the way she delivered her message...it sounded 
like her just screamin' into the mic over a beat...

Also, not really a rap topic, but is there anywhere I can get Malcolm X's 
speeches on cassette tape or CD to listen to? I know of one disc out 
there with the greatest speeches of history, but it doesn't have a great 
selection on Malcolm...

Latah

Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll.hard,alt.censorship,rec.music.funky
From: mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu (michael mchugh)
Subject: Anti-Censorship March on Washington, C on 10/30/92
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Music Censorship March
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:11:23 GMT

We want to make sure you are aware of the secret war against rock and rap 
music.

Just one example: A secret meeting has been held in the Maryland 
countryside to raise money for Tipper Gore and other censors and to discuss 
how to tear the guts out of our music. Who was there? The commandant of 
the Marine Corps, six Presidential candidates, a dozen Democrat and 
Republican senators, several corporation presidents, and assorted 
billionaires. Add in the police, with their war against Ice-T; and the 
evangelists, who are forcing MTV off the air in many cities. You can see we 
have a very serious problem.

How can we overcome this power elite that runs America? We have got to 
do the same things they do: SHARE INFORMATION. NETWORK. 
UNITE.

To get started, just answer as many of the following questions as you want.

1. What is the worst incidence of music censorship you know of?

2. Would you come to an anti-censorship war council in your city? YES ___
NO ____ The purpose would be to make friends and plan our fight not just 
to resist censorship, but to get rid of it completely.

3. Would you be willing to come to Washington, D.C. on October 30, 1992 
to help present the anti-labeling petition to the record industry and picket 
the offices of Tipper GoreUs PMRC (Parents Music Resource Center)? 
YES ___ NO ____ 

If you cannot go, do you have any ideas for local solidarity actions that could 
be held in your city on Oct. 30th? YES ___ NO ____ (Suggestions so far 
include: solidarity shows at clubs, demonstrations at stores that will not sell 
to kinds under 18, lowering the American flag to half-mast, calling you 
Congressman.)

For more information on this history-making action, contact, ROCK OUT 
CENSORSHIP, Box 147, Jewett, Ohio 43986 (614-946-6535).

YOUR NAME ________________________________________________

ADDRESS ___________________________________________________

CITY _________________________ STATE  _________ ZIP _________

RETURN TO: Right to Rock Network, Box 341305, Los Angeles, CA 
90034. *OR* mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu.
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: alt.rap
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:41:52 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu


>Rap sucks bigtime!  Rap musicians have no talent, but they make it big >because 
>of all the stupid idiots that go out there and buy their fucking albums.  >What
>happen to learning how to play guitar, bass, drums, piano, and other 
>instruments that require learning!  What happened to writing music and >lyrics
>that make sense!  Rock and Roll, Heavy Metal, Classic Rock, Jazz, >Alternative,
>and Classical music, is the only true music out there.  

People are entitled to their own opinions on rap music, and it's nice
to hear a message dissing rap written by someone who knows what they're
talking about, unlike "Rap sucks balls." Although I don't agree with
many of the opinions, she obviously knows enough about it to judge it.
I respect the feelings of people who know what they're talkin' about,
but as it was thouroughly discussed, many rap bands DO use and play
their own instruments. Not to mention that just because someone makes a
rap album that doesn't show a lot of musical ability, doesn't mean that
they don't have musical talent. I am an MC myself, and I write
classical, rock, and jazz music, and from what others say, it's damn
good. Although she was fairly well informed about hip-hop, she really
shouldn't stereotype rap artists and rap music.
I'm audi like segregation
                   -LX
From: pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: ATCQ Hot Sex
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:00:40 GMT
Organization: save all the sad songs and the tear jerkers ...

Speaking of this video, can anyone figure out what Phife's last line is? It
sounds like:
So forget the chalk 'cause <the-action-got-scholar>
From: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Music
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 00:28:08 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

- Boogie Down Productions is still my favorite hip hop group.  I like PE too. 
- Ice Cube is alright, I think X-Clan's latest album was OK and I like a couple
- songs from PRT, though on a whole, Wise Intelligent has a big mouth and needs
- to be bought back down to Earth.  Anyone catch Rap City on BET last year wher
- he was trying to diss KRS with out mentioning him (right after the Live album
- dropped) and diss Black Sheep by name?  Then about two weeks later on Dee
- Barnes show, somewhat continued?  The way he came off just pissed me off....
- 
-                                             T-Dub
-                                             SHYGUY productions

I can't believe the crap I read about BDP in various 'zines...it started 
with the interview w. KRS in Spin Magazine right after Sex&Violence came 
out...they were sayin' how fed up KRS was after he was dissed by Cube and 
others, and how HEAL sucked cuz it was not rap and how it was filled w. 
reggae, songs by REM, and other chit...I have read some more articles 
about da Blast Master and no one seems to like him, 'specially after he 
'kicked' PM-Dawn off stage...They keep mentioning he has gone away from 
his true 'Stop the Violence' roots and is now into tha gangsta mode and 
how S&V had nothing positive to offer...

Did the H.E.A.L. book ever come out? I read in Rap Pages that it was out, 
and KRS even flowed the address to where you could get it from, but Spin, 
Rollin' Stone and others still maintain it was never out...ah well, them 
magz are all wack...

I picked up the latest PRT from London a few months ago (a fairly old 
album tho) and really dug the lyrics, but the fact that they used samples 
from Holy Intellect really turned me off...they could have been abit more 
original and used NEW samples instead of stuff from years back...I do 
like their style of droppin' mental tho...


Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: this stupid letter
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <8OCT199209293302@rosie.uh.edu>, cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes...
>That guy that said, "Rap sucks balls!" needs to get his stupid ass off alt.rap 
> 
>and shove his caveman country head up there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
>Please add more insults below.


	YO, everyone has got to stop this bullshit.  Why cant we just ignore
posts like this?  By talking about his "caveman country ass..." you sound
worse than him!  Dont you think this dude knew he was going to get flamed
back?  This is what he wants.  If everyone just fuckin ignored it, he
wouldnt post that shit.  

	Stop wasting EVERYONEs time...and DROP IT...............Amil
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: More Music News
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:30:54 GMT

Just a few things I picked up in this magazine article....

Though it looks wrong, The Kool G. Rap & Polo album *may* be out sometime
around the end October.  I haven't heard anything in the real hip hop
publications though, especially with Time/Warners problems (and now Prince is
on the board?!?  Wow......)

Also, it would seem that Scoop & Scrap Lover are finally gonna come out for
self.  Look for the, 'Non Stop,' single, estimated November 3rd on the Livin'
Large label.  I dunno about youse, but I can't see this working.  All I ever
hear Scoop (or is it Scrap) rhyme about is, 'Some Girl Named Tootie/With The
Big Fat Bootie.'  I can't see a full album of that.

Finally, the new Rap Sheet is out (I actually placed in one of their contests!)
and deals with Hip Hop & Religion or the equivalent and features good articles
with Rakim on the 5% lifestyle, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, MC Serch and The Poor
Righteous Teachers.  For the PRT fans, they are working on a new album due out
early '93.

                                               T-Dub
                                               SHYGUY productions
From: v523d85n@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert C   )
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Name that beat!
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:22:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct12.151525.1860@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes...
>In article <1992Oct10.071953.29622@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs201127@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs201127) writes:
>>the song but it's on the movie soundtrack for "Deep Cover" and it's done by MC
>>Ren and a brother named Snoopy something or other.  Well, the beat is DOPE and
> ^^^
> 
>No, it was Dr. Dre and Snoopy something or other, and the beat is pretty dope.
> 
>>I want to know what else it's used in and possibly the source if it's not
>>original.
> 
>I don't know, but now that you mention it, it does sound like something that 
>has been used somewhere else with maybe some slight changes to it, at least the
>bassline anyway.

if you listen to arrested development's tennessee, you can hear the bassline
in there during some parts of the track-but it is followed pretty closely 
by some music and would be very difficult to sample.  maybe it is in a
more complete version on AD's album, since they did not seem to change
things/loops too much.  

now where did they get the bassline from?
rm
From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: what is all this fake shit
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:43:48 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol) writes:

>To say Hammer or Young MC aren't real rappers because they don't rap about
>crime and death and poverty, is the same as saying Springsteen isn't a real
>rock artist because he doesn't play speed metal.

Exuse me, but this made me laugh...  :) I don't think you got this right...

Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Wrecks N Effect
Keywords: ch
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:41:43 GMT

In article <BvrGqF.39o@acsu.buffalo.edu> simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon) writes:

>	Did anyone pick up the new Wrecks N Effect? I thought it was Markell
>Riley who died? 

No, B-Doggs passed on. Teddy makes mention of him in that pseudo-inspirational
dedication "Long Gone", the last song on Guy's "The Future."

>Anyway, is the Radio Remix on the 12"? Because I picked up
>the maxi cassingle because of that track, and the dance hall additions are
>slammin'...definitely worth it...

I haven't heard "Rumpshaker" yet, but there was a pretty big write-up on it
today in the Indiana Daily Student (where I'm still sports editor). The new
D.J. is named Tyron Fyffe, and the group came off on a BET special last week
in Naptown (Indianapolis, for those who don't know).  As for the 12", I
couldn't tell you - vinyl in Bloomington is pretty scarce.


-- 
- David J. ---- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS ---- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu -
- Coming October 20th: GRAND PUBA, "Reel to Reel", PRINCE, "O-+->",         -
******* Coming in 1993: The long-awaited 12" single, "RAP IS AN ART" ********
****************** ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions. *******************
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: tatumh@infonode.ingr.com (Harry W Tatum)
Subject: Re: NWA et al
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:05:36 GMT

In article <fedde.718414912@Moskva> fedde@Moskva.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
>c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly) writes:
>
>
>>        My question is: How can NWA sell any records after "No Vaseline"?
>
>Because you don't have to be so simple-minded to choose a side. I personally
>find it VERY amusing to hear them diss eachother on records. I bought Mc 

  True!

>They will keep selling...maybe not as when Ice cube was with them, but they
>will keep selling...
>
>Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)

  Yes, they will keep selling. IMO, all on Dr. Dre's producing, but 
not only as the producer. The man can flow. What other producers can
flow like him and Ant Banks (of the Dangerous Crew).

   ....I only do it cause she lets me!!....

Bruddah Hal
From: v523d85n@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert C Maggio)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <20370004@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>, kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes...
> 
>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
> 
>1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
> 
>2.) Are you pro choice?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
> 
>3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
> 
>4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
>rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
> 
>5.) What sex are you?
>Male               [ ]
>Female             [ ]
> 
>6.) How old are you?
>Under 18           [ ]
>19 to 65           [ ]
>Over 65            [ ]
> 
>7.) What religion are you?
>Protestant         [ ]
>Catholic           [ ]
>Jewish             [ ]
>Other              [ ]
> 
>8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
>Democratic         [ ]
>Republican         [ ]
>Other              [ ]
> 
>9.) How many years of education have you completed?
>Grade School       [ ]
>High School        [ ]
>College            [ ]
>More               [ ]
From: mlo@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Mike Osborne)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: The Wafer Charged?
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:12:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <9210121357@ltrnativ.UUCP> adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead) writes:


>Not to come to his rescue or anything, but if this is the same story I saw
>then it is not the true Wafer.  It is some guy going around posing as him.

>Apparently he ripped off several credits cards, hotels, restaurants, etc.

>The question remains, why would someone want to impersonate him?

Maybe Vanilla paid someone to do it to boost his "street" image. (The knife 
scars just didn't cut it)

But let's just hope it isn't a stunt to advertise a new album. (apologies to 
anyone with a weak stomach, I nearly chucked up just thinking about it!).

Mike
--

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 Computer Science Department     JANET:     mlo@uk.ac.qmw.dcs
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Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll.hard,rec.music.funky,alt.censorship,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
From: mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu (michael mchugh)
Subject: Help Support the Right to Rock Network (if you can)
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Right to Rock Music money
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:54:52 GMT

BAD NEWS: Stores in several states have installed alarms that go off 
whenever a record with a warning label is bought. Songs criticizing the 
police have been dropped from several upcoming albums. MTV is under 
siege by the American Family Association.

GOOD NEWS: The Freedom Team manning an anti-censorship information 
booth on the Guns N Roses/Metallica tour reports fans are eager to get 
involved. It turns out these so-called headbangers and burnouts are far more 
politically aware than anyone previously imagined.

MORE GOOD NEWS: Here is some of what we have found by doing 
follow-up mailings to thousands of people who have signed the Right to 
Rock Networks anti-labeling petition:

A) Fanzines networking nationally to fight censorship.

B) New groups springing up everywhere. For instance, dozens of white high 
school kids in an isolated Ohio River town have formed an organization to 
fight racism and censorship.

C) Unsigned bands writing and recording dozens of news songs in defense 
of our music.

We are starting to come together to gear up--the Freedom Team could never 
have stayed on the road without financial and logistical support from music 
lovers across the country. The Anti-Censorship war Council in Ohio on 
August 8th drew people from nine states.

Now it is time to gear up for the nationwide Halloween Eve action where the 
anti-labeling petitions will be presented to the music industry in Washington, 
DC, followed by a demonstration at the headquarters of the thoroughly 
bipartisan Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC). We need to spread the 
word so solidarity actions can take place across the United States on October 
30, 1992. (Kansas City has already thrown down). We need funds to keep 
processing the mound of petitions we have--mailings now include 
information on October 30 activity.

Will you please send a check for $25, $50, or $100 today to Rock and Roll 
Confidential? In this election year, fielding a mighty rock and rap army 
means more than defending freedom of expression. It means having our own 
independent voice. It means a chance not just to protest, but to seriously 
fight for the entire rock and rap agenda: Peace, equality, clean air and water; 
and end to hunger and homelessness. Let us not blow it. Let us Rock!

Lee Ballinger and Michael Leo McHugh
for the Right to Rock Network

Rock and Roll Confidential
Box 341305
Los Angeles, CA90034

mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu