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From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Durability
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:59:48 GMT

>>I mean, we would like to think that if we could get our bike or car, any        
>>bike or any car, to say, 100,000 miles, without major problems we are           
>>having a near mystical experience in reliability.  Bullshit.  At an             
>>average of 50 mph, 100,000 miles is only 2000 hours of operation.               
>>That's nothing compared to the reliability of many mechanical systems.          

      The TBO (Time Between Overhauls) of most Lycoming and Continental
engines for small aircraft is 2000 hours, so this is a fairly valid
number. It's interesting that adding a low boost turbocharger to
one of these engines cuts the TBO to around 1200 - 1400 hrs. even
though the type of turbocharger used is more for maintaining normal
performance at high altitude, not making astronomical increases in
sea level horsepower.



Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

*************************************************************
   "Those twins are nice, but since I put in that Plymouth 4
    engine, there aint a Harley, Indian, or Exelcior that can
    touch my Henderson!"
                        Grandmother 1936
=============================================================
 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone)
Subject: Noise-cancelling headphones (was Re: Neat AGV helmet...)
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:56:25 GMT

[responses to my post about Sennheiser active noise-cancelling headphones]

- Ed "No bike yet" Green says:

>The obvious question is what about horns?  I guess the squeaky little
>MG horn is high frequency, but what about the blast from a semi?

- Jody "Obscure Napoleanic Units" Levine says:

>I can still hear horns and sirens (and bells, occasionally) thourgh my 
>earplugs, but they'd have to make the noise canceller do the same before I'd
>buy one. Hey, how about an adaptive filter of the type that gets trained when
>you have noise only (so you don't cancel out the 'signal') that generates
>the noise reference to feed into the canceller? C'mon you DSP gurus, do 
>something useful!

>Did you say something, officer?

Unfortunately, you'd be able to hear every little oink the officer
makes.

The beauty of these headphones, and what makes them absolutely spooky,
is that they ONLY CANCEL THE NOISE.  Their algorithm does exactly what
you're asking for, Jody.  I had them on in the lab, and carried on a
normal conversation with my associate.  The only difference is, the
background noise was almost completely masked.  My associate said I
was talking slightly louder (but certainly not as loud as when wearing
earplugs! - you can hear MUCH better than when wearing earplugs).

I haven't figured out the complete algorithm, by any means, but I sense
that it is relatively simple, considering the nearly non-existent
electronics.  It's obviously something about delaying the steady-state
signal for half a wavelength, so that a 180 degree out-of-phase
relationship is established.  Impulsive sounds are passed through.

How this will work on a motorcycle remains to be seen.  As I said
in my last post, I intend to carve up an old Bell helmet and try
it out.  I'll be certain to post the result.

Oh, and speaking of slang units [Jody!], a few people asked what
"8 bills" means.  That's $800US.  Sorry.


 Phil Stone         (phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov | ...ames!eos!phil)
 '83 R80ST               DoD #95              "Motorcycles OK"

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: What is the DoD?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:02:20 GMT

In article <4439@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes:
>the fall. Just basically try and act as if you are bored by the whole
>incident. Act as nonchalant as possible. And at all costs don't start
>reciting lines from Shaksphere. Jesus; some of that stuff is as dramatic
>as it gets. "To be or not to be, etc. etc.". Thats serious drama folks.

Don't show any interest in the events around you.  In fact, if you become
distracted by some random thought, like "Gee, that's a works Yamaha 250 going
the other direction with a really fine looking paint job!" and completely 
forget about hitting the guard rail, you will find yourself floating throught
the air some 10 meters above ground.  For technical references, see "The 
Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy", Douglas Adams.

Don't panic.

CP Tomes
I've got a towel, how about you?


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady)
Subject: Re: Cell phones
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:09:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: cellular phones  

In article <1992Dec15.232133.6210@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>Non-hands-free cell phones are a danger, as are supposedly hands-free
>phones whose hands-free quality is so low that they are de facto not
>useful in hands-free mode. 

What type do you have in your car? I'm curious since most hands-free ones sound
like crap. I use a NEC hand-held which works pretty well. Yes, I do pull over
when I have to make calls. I also like the phone because I can carry it easily
on the CBR in case of emergency.

>[...] by far my worst moments are, in decreasing order of imminent danger:
>
>1) Person who missed their exit ramp and is now hauling ass across
>   multiple lanes of traffic to try and hit it anyway
What I used to call the "Taxi lane change" when I lived in New York City.

>2) Person in a HUGE hurry who is switching lanes rapidly and dangerously
>   without signalling
Most drivers in New England. I'm convinced that turn signals are an option
on autos sold in Massachusetts.
>
>3) Person dealing with small child(ren) and/or pet(s) while driving
For the kids, keep 'em belted up in a car seat. Works for me. :-)

>4) Jerry (our pet name for geriatrics -- people who are quite slow,
I use LOL, LOM (little 'ol lady/man) or LOX (X=don't care, leftovers
from my hardware engineering days :-) My biggest fear of visiting
my dad in Tampa, Florida is dealing with the LOX's on I-4 and the other
"high speed" roads :-( (Sorry Floridians!)

>I won't even talk about the people trying to claim mall parking spots
>with the single-minded bloodthirsty oblivious zeal that only comes
>once a year. DeathRace 2000 was kinder and gentler.
Quite. I like to think of it like the last game in the movie 
"Rollerball" -- kill anyone/thing that gets in your way!

--pete

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pete Brady                              EMAIL: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Until 8 Jan 93)
Dirtbag Contractor from Hell(tm)        PHONE: 508-436-5226 (Until 8 Jan 93)

"...would Godzilla ride a Japanese bike if one were big enough?" -- Curt Nelson

DoD #5831 -- '92 CBR600F2 (on winter sabbatical :-( )
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: First ride in rain almost first dropped bike, too
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:22:47 GMT

In article <28593@oasys.dt.navy.mil> sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges) writes:
|
|If you don't care much for your tires, find an empty road or parking
|lot and practice.  Get going at a good rate (maybe 30mph) and lock the
|rear, then release it.  Feel for the bike's violence and figure how
|to reduce it.
|
|By contrast, if you lock the front wheel you want to get it spinning
|again immediately, or you will crash.

I would suggest practice, in any case.  A racer may not see the need for
maximum braking exercises, but most of us use maximum braking only in
emergencies, and if we do everything else right, we shouldn't be seeing
many of those emergencies.  So go to that parking lot and practice, at
least once per month.  Do it on a schedule, rain or shine, and you will
get a proportional amount of practice on rainy days (well, if it so rarely
rains when you are, make a point to practice on at least one rainy day).
If you are doing braking exercises properly, you will be sliding the
rear from time to time, so learn to deal with it.

On a semi-slippery surface, I think the biggest difficulty in locking
the rear is realizing it's locked.  The first indication you often get,
other than a tiny chirp, and a slightly different feel to the pedal,
is that the motorcycle is sliding to the side, and by that time, it 
can be far enough out to highside you.  You have to learn to feel the
back break loose, right as it happens, and program your reactions to
release the pedal then reapply if it happens.  If you can learn that,
you will never highside from braking.

That goes for the front, too.  It is rather scary, but when I practice
in the wet, part of that practice includes brief front-end slides.  
Because of that practice, I have been able to control things when
coming to a stop and the surface gets unexpectedly slippery.  The
front brake locks, and my hand reacts, regaining control, no conscious
thought involved.  It has saved me some skin and plastic a few times.

(I don't practice front-end slides on dry pavement because it makes the
triple clamp look like it's about to explode.  I don't like that.)

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:13:12 GMT

mtaffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Taffe) writes:

>In article <1992Dec14.214839.6807@progress.com> matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper) writes:
>>  Why is it that people cannot take some responsibility for their actions?  I 
>>read everything I could get my hands on related to this issue.  As far as I 
>>could tell *everyone* of the 6 kids that bought the farm from the walkers did
>>so because their *parents* basically put them in it and forgot about them! 
>>Just another case of unsupervised children getting into trouble.
>>
>>  I don't mean to imply a 'it's their own damn fault' attitude here.  I just 
>>think it would be wiser to educate people than simply remove the hazards.  

>Why not?  It _is_ their own damn fault.  Your post sounds as thought this
>is precisely your attitude anyway.  I also regret the fact that we have
>come so far away from personal responsibility in these US of A.

  In general that *is* my attitude.  However, sometimes there are cases where
either the manufacturer didn't go far enough to educate the consumer (which
is still quite often the consumers fault) or circumstances that couldn't 
be preconceived.

  The biggest reason I added the last comment was to save myself some grief
of being accused a baby killer or other such things, which *has* happened to
me in the past with subjects like this.

  Personal responsibility in the US of A?  What's that?

-Matth

--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:19:19 GMT

In article <BzF4Bo.L6u@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>
>When two dissimilar conductors are joined (welded) and a current run through
>the joint, teh differences in the number of free electrons in the two metals
>result in one of them getting hotter than what resistive heating would allow 
>for, and the other metal loses the exact amount of heat that "appears" on the
>hot side of the chip in addition to resistive heating.  When current is run in
>the opposite direction, both sides get hot.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^????
This may be the real Peltier effect, I don't know, but commercial 
thermoelectric coolers move the heat in the directon of charge carrier 
flow, end of story. This means you can heat or cool whichever side you 
like. I used these to build a variable frequency laser out of a single 
frequency laser chip by sitting the chip on such a cooler and varying 
the temperature of the laser either way. My control circuit ran the current 
either way, and one side of the cooler was always cold. We called these 
Peltier coolers, but it doesn't sound like the same effect that CP is 
talking about.

What they've put on the 486DX2 is that same thing that I used. And yes,
they are inefficient and expensive.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: tjohnson@anyway.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Libertarians
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:16:42 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (900) 976-1111 )
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1992Dec6.235408.2420@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:

>I have no problem with libertarianism as long as I don't have to pay for
>it.

Dan;

	My sister is a libertarian. It's real cheap when we go out to dinner cause
she usually just gets a Salad and maybe a Potato(e). Granted, I don't want to pay
every time we go out, so we alternate. Why don't you just work out some kind of
an alternation plan like I have done. And by all means I agree with your posting.
No one should be forced to pay extra for stuff just cause they eat meat. Libertarians
should pay sometimes too.

Thank-you Kindly;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol"
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:37:53 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group

In article <carlp.724711897@frigg>, carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
|> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
|> 
|> >>>>>|> Everything is for sale. It just depends on the offer.
|> >>>>>so how much for the bra? my first offer is $1
|> 
|> >>>>Next bid is $2
|> >>>>Couldn't resist.
|> 
|> >>>You guys obviously have not a clue of what a good bra goes for these days...
|> 
|> >> Nobody has inquired about condition yet.
|> 
|> >Yeah!! Is it a front loader? back loader? strapless? what percentage
|> >is lace? color? make? model? type material? is it 'sheer'? see through?
|> >*gawd* I feel the urge for a cold shower!! ;-)
|> 
|> I bid $5, regardless of features, for any bra actually worn by Jody within 
|> the past month which has not been damaged by fire, flood, famine, earthquake,
|> tornado, mudslide, other natural disaster, acts of civil disobedience,
|> or other damage exceeding "normal wear and tear".

what he said. and my bid now stands at $6 US.
damn it last night it was only going to cost me
600% less then it is today at 2:30 talk about
inflation.

laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ian@lassen.wpd.sgi.com (Ian Clements)
Subject: Cell phones
Summary: Just Say no!
Keywords: cellular phones  
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:37:07 GMT

 In a recent _Motorland_ article (Jan/Feb '93), the CSAA (California State 
Automobile Association) offers a bunch of suggestions for using your cellular 
phone safely.  The suggestions come from the Cellular Telecommunications 
Industry Association.

 As a motorcycle rider, I strongly object to the use of cellular phones
while driving and feel that the CSAA should be recommending that drivers who
want to use the phones pull over before doing so.  It is my opinion that most
people cannot react quickly enough if they are engaged in another activity
(be it talking on the phone, reading, putting on make-up) while driving.  This 
puts other motorists in danger.
 
 Most of the time, I can spot someone talking on the phone just  by the way
they're driving; weaving in a lane, going much slower than the rest of traffic
(usually in the fast lane), not looking before a lane change etc.

 I intend to write to the CSAA and voice my opinion.  If you'd like to write
them, the address is:

	Letters, Motorland
	CSAA
	150 Van Ness Avenue, 
	San Francisco, CA 94102
--

--
Ian Clements,
ian@sgi.com, 415/390-3410
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Electric Vests and RF . . .
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:00:14 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 0@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no, espen@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no (Epsonasjen) writes:
>>
>Hey, this is great!
>Prolonged exposure to radio-magnetic fields is known to be temporary 
>sterilizing.......
>SO:  Go ride your bike, jump in the sack, be not afraid !!!!
>     No more latex articles and so on -  economic too!

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!

Latex articles and so on are *vital* in the sack!

These days, unplanned pregnancy is the least unpleasant thing that can
result from an unprotected romp in the sack.

PRACTICE SAFE SEX!  

ObMoto:  Getabikeself.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: dan_h@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dan Holtkamp)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:57:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Nude Motorcycle Riding explained!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest) writes:

> In article <foo> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
> 	   I had a few pics sent to me several months ago.  One of
>    these happened to be a nude woman on a motorcycle, looking like she
>    was just motoring along with a care in the world.  She was wearing
>    a helmet, but nothing else that I could see.
> 
> 	   So while I'm viewing this great piece of Americana on my
>    workstation over lunch, in comes the boss...
> 
> 	   "Yeah, they had a nude protest ride in California a few weeks
>    ago to protest the new helmet law.  I was in the newspapers -- you
>    didn't hear about it?"
> 
> 	   He bought it.
> 
> Haay, WAITAMINNIT.  *I* organized a nude protest ride through Stanford
> University a few months ago, to protest the new helmet law!  Our lead
> rider was a beautiful woman.  We wore nothing but helmets, and went
> roaring around and through campus.
> 
> Your gal in the pic didn't happen to have long, red hair and to be
> riding a black Honda Shadow 500, wearing a red RF-200, did she?
> 
> --
> DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!
 
  So where is it, the pic that is? Please post!!!!!!

Later,
dan
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fabulous DoD Babes For Jeff
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 19 Dec 92 15:11:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


->   Usually when people go in for exercise, they use heavier barbells
-> than just the 12 oz types.

 Yeah.  At least the 16-ounce tallboys, fer sher...
                                                            
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: boardman@cancer.unm.edu (Bob Boardman)
Subject: Re: Locking the rear wheel. (Was: First ri
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:02:10 GMT
Organization: UNM Cancer Center
Reply-To: boardman@cancer.unm.edu

In article <1gqt8oINNfnb@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>,
      egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>In article 16469@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU,
>      cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec14.114059.12739@aber.ac.uk>
>>      azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
>>
>>>My question - how many folk have actually come to grief by locking the back,
>>>and how many just spout the party line? The theory seems good, but the 
>>>practice doesnt seem to bear it out.
>>
>>I've locked the rear and let it go maybe four or five times.  
>
>I've locked the rear and let it go with no ill effect, and I've locked
>it up and let it go and tossed my ass over the handlebars, taking a
>solidly mounted mirror off with my chest.
>
>After some parking lot practice, I determined the rear wasn't a whole
>lot of help, and I pretty much ignore it except in the wet or on
>gravel.
>
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite

	Easy for you to say, and seeing as how you still need to getabike,
  I guess you're pretty much ignoring the (non-existant) front brake, too!

	I've locked up the rear brake a few times, and it seems to always
  slide out one way or the other right quick!  Not knowing any better, and
  not wanting the rear wheel to pass the front wheel, I've always immediately
  released the rear brake.  Yes, the bike has always attempted a high-side
  when the wheel gets traction, but I've always instinctively done a little
  "dab" (putting the foot on the ground) on the high-side to straighten
  things up, and proceeded on down the road (with my anal sphincters firmly
  gripping the seat ;-)).  Most of these have been at relatively low speed
  and due to slimy spooge on the road surface.  The few at higher speeds
  have indeed yanked the "dabbing" foot rearward quite smartly, but I haven't
  had to "lay it down".  The only accidents I've had in the last decade have
  been due to BD cagers who left me absolutely no way to avoid and/or stop
  in time (O.K. I know about SIPDE, but I'm not willing to drive in a totally
  conservative manner, and you can't always predict everything that's going
  to happen).  I guess the rear brake may not be that important for the
  sporty-bike riders, but with a cruiser like mine, it contributes significant
  braking effect and I'm going to keep using it.
	So, am I the only one who uses the "release and dab" approach rather
  than the "keep it locked" approach?  It's always worked rather well for me.

  -Bob


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