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From: m_krok@tron.gun.de (Matthias Krok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re^2: RETINA specs (yes, it`s true!)
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:09:00 +0100

Hallo CSTADDW%CSV.WARWICK.AC.UK@USENET.ZER !

Am 13.11.92 schriebst Du zum Thema "Re: RETINA specs" folgendes:

-> Good god, this card sound too sexy to be true, is everyone sure that the 
-> DM700 price is correct?

Yes, it IS correct, I was in Cologne, and I saw it. (Much faster than DOMINO)

-> Please please could someone mail me with an address and/of phone no. of the 
-> manufactures and if possiable the British importers!

Sorry, I have only adress and phone no. of the german manufactors. But isn`t
there MacrySystems in the USA/GB too ??? It shouldn`t be so difficult to get
the phone no. of MacroSystems... is it ?

Some informations from the paper I got in Cologne:

Retina, real graphiccard for A2000/3000/4000.

Card for the Zorro-II-Slot, Multilayer-platine, partly SMD

Special graphicchipset (controller, RAMDAC, frequencegenerator), not an
adaptercard for PC-VGA-cards !!!

Output: 15pol HighDensity-SUB-D-Connector (female)

uses AutoConfig(TM)

RAM: one, two or four MB DRAM (ZIP), 80ns ot faster
(4MB: 1MBx4, else: 256KBx4)

Datarate: Full using of the Zorro-II-Bus (0 wait states), ca. 3.5 MB/sec.,
Pixelfrequence up to 80 MHz, Datarate inside the own RAM up to 10 MB/sec.)

You need: A2000/3000/4000, Monitor with 15pol. VGA-Connectorcable

Installation: put hardware in the computer, fix the one screw, ready.

up to 740x600 in 24bit, 50-70 Hz non-interlaced

800x600 in 65.000 colors up to 72 Hz non interlaced

1024x768 in 256 colors up to 72 Hz non-intgerlaced (if yout monitor supports
                                                    this !)

1280x1024 in 256 colors up to 87 Hz INTERLACED, 55 Hz non-interlaced


I think, this information may be very ineteresting for s few of you. Sorry
fior my bad english, but I`m a german pupil, and I just wanted to give a few
informations, you can`t get on other ways, yet...

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From: tobu@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Torsten Buecheler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: I am getting Hard Disk Errors, May Day, May Day ...
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:19:44 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: '030EC - Uses for MMU on Amigas?
Keywords: 68030EC, 68030, GVP A530
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:57:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.37195
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <7445@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> h8eg083@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Darren Gower) writes:
> I recently posted a request for info on the GVP A530 accelerator combo,
> I can't be sure whether it got out (feeder problems).
> 
> Anyway, I discovered that it has the '030EC. A (possibly unknowledgable)
> friend is of the opinion that the MMU is not disabled in these units, just
> unwarranted. I always thought it was disabled in the 'EC. Could someone
> clarify?

The situation is that Motrola doesn't guarantee it to be present and working.
I would expect it to be disabled by internally grounding the MMU disable pin,
but the way the part is specified they aren't actually required to do that.

> Further, just how much use is the MMU in an AmigaDOS environment? I know
> enforcer uses it (and I do a fair amount of 'C' programming), but is it
> worth forking out approx. $400 more to get it just for that? Are there any
> other uses?

Proably not (worth it).

> Another thing - the 68030 that is supplied with the '530 is a 40Mhz job.
> Is this overclocked or is Motorola actually producing 40Mhz CPU's?

I don't know whether it is over clocked or not, but Motorola does offer
a 40 MHz speed grade for the 68030 and 68EC030.  I think the EC030 is
actually only available in 25 MHz and 40 MHz speed grades...

-- 
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 68020 vs 68EC020 (pin compatible?)
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:06:10 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Nov15.184005.22728@muug.mb.ca> gbrandt@muug.mb.ca (Gregor Brandt) writes:
 >Are the 68020 and 68ec020 pin compatible?  

I'm afraid no. The EC version has 8 data lines less and I guess accordingly
fewer pins. And it is soldered on in SMD, there's no socket.

 >What I'm wondering is
 >if I get a 1200, can I put the 020 from my Hurricane board into
 >it.  (well, thats sorta useless, but I also have an '020 to '030
 >adapter, which I'd like to use)

Not possible I fear: not enough pins, no socket.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: '030EC - Uses for MMU on Amigas?
Keywords: 68030EC, 68030, GVP A530
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:00:49 GMT

h8eg083@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Darren Gower) writes:

>I recently posted a request for info on the GVP A530 accelerator combo,
>I can't be sure whether it got out (feeder problems).

>Anyway, I discovered that it has the '030EC. A (possibly unknowledgable)
>friend is of the opinion that the MMU is not disabled in these units, just
>unwarranted. I always thought it was disabled in the 'EC. Could someone
>clarify?

Disabled??  It simply isn't there.

>Further, just how much use is the MMU in an AmigaDOS environment? I know
>enforcer uses it (and I do a fair amount of 'C' programming), but is it
>worth forking out approx. $400 more to get it just for that? Are there any
>other uses?

Well there is gigamem, for virtual memory [ nice but really belongs in the
core of the os, but does the job for graphical conversion stuff ]
And there will be emplant that uses it to multitask the amiga os with the
mac os, or allow mac os have full control and have pmmu.
Well how about running os 2.04 rom and then setcpu'ing to 1.3 or 1.2.
Or if you have 3.0 rom you could do that down the line.
This is of some importance since you can't zkick down from 2.0+.
And the price diff is really not there.  Hopefully someday cbm will have
support for mmu in the os.  Maybe something like virtual amigas, where
all things can multitask and think that it is singular, ie two games
that don't multitask could multitask.


>Lastly, to repeat my original question (from the post that may not have been...)
>can I have some feedback on the relative worth of the GVP A530 combo? Is
>it a decent accelerator option for one who can't afford a 3000/4000 at this
>stage?

Why not get the a1200 though?  slightly more but you get graphics accelerated.
As opposed to only fast ram speed up.

Martin
From: acs_mogged@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Mouse Port Problem
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:59:47 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

	Well, I hope you people out there in net land can help me with this
problem....

	My mouse does not work on my Amiga 2000 system....  If you move the
mouse nothing happens.  The left and right buttons work.  The strangest thing 
is that if you put a joystick in that port the joystick will work perfectly
(Yeah, the use for Gauntlet 2).  I have checked the mouse by using it on a 
CDTV and it works on the CDTV.

	My motherboard is 6.2 revision...

	If you need a better explanation just e-mail me at
		Brian.s.mogged@uwrf.edu

	Thank you in advance any help is welcomed...
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:26:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>
>6 Nov 92 02:57:20 GMT bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>I can't wait to see the defecit/debt figures in four years... Omigosh. :-)
>>Do you really believe it's going to go down?  With the Democrats now
>>dominating not only the house and senate, but also the executive branch?
>>You're going to be very disappointed.  Just wait.
>
>Even  a  slight slow-down in the rate-of-increase of the defecit would be a
>major  accomplishment.   If  Bush  were  in  again the defecit would simply
>continue  to  rise  at the outrageous rate that he was already getting away
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
He was getting away with?  Hehe.  Why don't you take a reading course and
then read the newspapers.  Or watch CSPAN and get away from Time "editorial"
magazine.  With CSPAN the congress can't hide from anyone and you aren't
told what to think by the Sam Donaldsons of the press.

>with.   We  went from Carter's 270 billion defecit to Reagan's 2.7 trillion
>to Bush's 4.1 trillion.  (It's easy to see who the crooks are isn't it?) If

Yep.  Congress.  "Let's add just ooone moooore spending amendment to this
`Help All You Poor Voters' amendment.  Besides, the president has no line
item veto - he's GOT to sign it (Snicker snicker)."

Do you remember what the defecit was before Carter?  No?  Figures.  

Do you know how much legit military spending Carter cut, then Reagan had to
quickly put back in place?  No?  Figures.  

Do you know why the communists gave up trying to outspend the free world?
No?  Figures.

Do you remember the high taxes of the Carter democratic congress era, with
run away inflation and higher un-employment than we had during any
reagan-bush years?  No?  Figures.  

How quick the tax and spend liberals try to forget.

> Jay Phillips * Tampa Florida
> Amiga 3000 25Mhz/105HD/10MB
> USENET: tbag!jayson@tscs.com
>

-Joel
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From: soudan@boole (SOUDAN sebastien)
Subject: Re: 1/2 Meg Chip --> 1 Meg Chip RAM!
Organization: University of Grenoble (France)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:05:11 GMT

csccm@luxury.latrobe.edu.au (Chris Miles) writes:


>I have an A500 with 20meg HD on the side, and 3 megs of RAM - 0.5 Chip, 0.5 in
>the Trapdoor, and 2 meg FAST in the HD.  Wot I have heard is that its possible
>to make the 0.5 meg in the Trapdoor to be another 0.5 meg of Chip ram??  Is
>this true, and if so - How do I do IT???!  I realize I might have to buy a
>'bigger' Agnus, but I'd just like to know the details of how to do this if it
>is possible...

>Thanx!
You have to change internal jumpers (on the mother board). I've done it
You must have a Fat Agnus (1M0 chip)
You have to change internal jumpers (on the mother board). I've done it
on a rev5
 _______________________
 |                     |
 |      J2             | <-    Back of a500 (connectors)
 |   Agnus             | 
 |                     |       J2: exchange connection 
 |                     |     ( i don't remember if x-x x to x x-x
 |                     |       or x x-x  to x-x x )
 |                     |
 |                     |       J7A: cut the connection
 |     J7A             |      ( becomes x x x )
 |  ======= Internal   | 
 |          Connetor   |
 |             ------  |      
 |             |     | | 
 |             |Drive| |   
 ---------------------  
-- 
_______________________________________________________
 SOUDAN Sebastien      ESI2 Gr2 / EUI Grenoble        |
--> soudan@petri.imag.fr                              |
       /\\                                            |
From: cikp14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 4000 problems! PLEASE READ
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:55:33 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Nov19.071452.7908@src4src.linet.org>, frostbit@src4src.linet.org (Rajesh Goel) writes:
> In article <1992Nov16.142003.12937@zds-oem.zds.com> benjamin@zds-oem.zds.com (Ad
> am Benjamin) writes:
>>
>>Ok, My 4000 has died (again!) this time 2 days after being returned
>>from CBM Express.
>>First off I want to know how many of you 4000 owners have had flawless
>>performace?  Does the 4000 suffer from being rushed? or do I just have
>>a lemon?
>>
>>Secondly I was wondering about a few abnormalities that may be symptoms
>>of whatever the heck is wrong with my system.
>>I noticed that file-requesters were never updated correctly.  If I saved
>>a file and then went to load another file from the same program and same
>>volume the file I had just saved would NOT appear in the requester unless
>>I re-entered the volume name and forced it to look up the directory again.
>>?? Has anyone else noticed this?
>>Also when I hit CTRL-A-A to reboot the hard drive parks and spins-down
>>then back up again. (seems kinda weird)!
>>
>>Right now my system dies 0-3 minutes after bootup. It still responds to
>>CTRL-A-A but within the above time it again dies. (most of the time it
>>freezes, somtimes it guru's with Processor Exceptions (8000 000X)
>>
>>For 3 grand I expect a little better ya know?
>>
>>Adam Benjamin
>>Benjamin@zds-oem.zds.com    or  A.Benjamin@mi04.zds.com
>>
>>Thanks!  PLEASE REPLY if you own a 4000.  This is kind-of an informal
>>survey.
> 
> 
>     You got a lemon because the only problem I have with my 4000 is the floppy
> drive - it craps out on HD disks - Amiga or IBM format.
> 
  >     Otherwise, the machine is flawless...
>       
> ------------------------------------------------------>    frostbit@src4src.linet.org
>      A4000 -- Workstation performance that's AFFORDABLE
> -------------------                                   mine too, the drive
craps in on HD disks, must be a fault with the drive or something. An engineer
is coming out today to look at it under my on site maintance.

Simon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: bwaid@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Amiga and Apple Laserwriter
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:54:38 GMT

I have access to an Apple IIg Laserwriter and would like to know if anyone
has been able to use one with their Amiga. I checked the BBS for a driver 
but came up empty. Any help?
Thanks,
Barry Waid
bwaid@ducvax.auburn.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: WHY 68020->A1200
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:36:11 GMT

In <mane.0d6n@vsbbs.UUCP> mane@vsbbs.UUCP (Mark Kane) writes:

>Maybe one of you Commodore folks could shed some light on the choice of the
>68020 proccessor for the A1200. I am under the impression that the '030 is
>cheaper! Please don't flame I am ignorant when it comes to hardware!

That's not right. The 030 is a bit more expensive than the 020 and lots more
expensive than the EC020 used in the A1200.

Regards,
-- 
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Internet: p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: hilton@leechs.lzo.dec.com (Greg Hilton)
Subject: Will 1200 run IDE (now) and SCSI (later)
Reply-To: hilton@bahtat.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Company
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:05:04 GMT


Hiya,

I have a large SCSI drive I would want to
put on a 1200 eventually.

If I got a 20mb IDE 1200 now would this  prevent
me adding SCSI via the trapdoor later?

Thanks,

Greg
From: Zapper@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Zapper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I use ESDI Hard Drive with Amiga???
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Nov 92 04:47:41 EDT
Organization: The QuBE BBS

In a message dated Sat 13 Nov 92  3:44, Gacs4590@oswego.oswego.edu wrote:

 G>  I have a Seagate ESDI hard drive and wish to connect it to my Amiga
 G> 500.  Does anyone know where I can a get a controller for an ESDI HD. 

  If you can get an IBM ESDI card, you can use the Palomax MAX-125 to
connect it to your Amiga... I am using one on my 500 to connect two MFM
drives and an IDE drive... the controller also supports ESDI...

  It's autobooting, pretty fast etc... works cool... if you want more info,
e-mail me... i'm not selling mine but I can point you to the
manufacturer...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Floppy size in 1200?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:16:47 GMT

dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:

>Here's hint, people:

>If you want a HD floppy, get an Insite Floptical.  All you need is
>a SCSI port.  I can do 720K, 1.44M, and leapfrog the 3.52M with a killer
>21M!!!

>And you can have it NOW!!!

Not for a 1200 you can't!  And that's the point of this thread.
The 1200 comes with IDE, remember?

(However, this might be a good option for my 500 that's SCSI-equipped)
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From: rhong@terapin.com (Randall Hong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Does HP Deskwriter = Deskjet?
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:27:58 PST
Organization: BBS

How about the other way around?  Going from a DeskJet and using it on a Mac?
From: doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 Add-Ons
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:50:27 GMT
Organization: 68K Software Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1drhdrINN7d4@agate.berkeley.edu> kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller) writes:
> I am very interested in the A1200, and look forward to it arriving here in the
> states, but I have two concerns about adding hardware.
> 
> From what I understand, the A1200 comes with only 2 meg chip RAM.  How would
> I go about adding 32-bit fast RAM?  What cost is involved?
> 
> From what I understand, the A1200 has no hard drive either.  Will I be able
> to EASILY add a hard drive (IDE or whatever)?  I don't want to buy the 
> machine and then find out that I'm stuck with a floppy-based system. NEVER
> again!
> 
> Thanks!

Microbotics has just announced a fast ram/math coprocessor board for the
trapdoor of the 1200.

Glenn Doiron
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From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: MegaMR trouble with graphic output
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:28:16 GMT

I noticed when I got my mega midget racer, and had the 030 active I had some
output on the workbench icons screwed up.  Meaning the letters under the icon
had lines through it and other messyness.  I only had to move the icons to get
a redraw of them for a correction.  But I was wondering what is causing that?
I don't notice in most all other apps except aibb 5.0, no way to have a redraw
on it though, so there is messy lettering in it on every line.  I don't have
any 32bit memory just 16bit memory.  I got the board for the mmu and the 881.
Also I got a board that is overclocked, but the people at Memory World said 
they tested the cpu's they overclock, so I have a 20mhz 030 overclocked at
25mhz.  But on sysinfo, preaty much most of the releases, states that my
cpu is clocked at 24.20mhz, that is sysinfo tested to find out the speed.

And when I use the 68000 on the mmr board, there is absolutely no problem.
So could anyone tell me if it is the overclocking, 16bit ram, or something else?
I don't know if is the cause of any other problems, but I do wonder.  I have
had situations where I couldn't find a reason why something went bad.  Like
running a vistapro for about 48 hours and having a problem when I get back
onto the computer it might lock up.  But then there are other times I could
have it running several weeks without a hitch.  If it is overclocking the
problem I will just get a 20mhz clock put into it.  Since I am thinking of
doing that just to find out if that is the problem, but If anyone else
has had this prob or knows about it, would help.  Oh by the way I was running
enforcer some of the times when the system went down, and there were no hits.

Martin

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: commike@lgc.com (Alan Commike)
Subject: Re: added 2nd hd - lockup on boot!
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corp., Houston, Tx.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:43:46 GMT

plav@cup.portal.com (Rick M Plavnicky) writes:

>commike@lgc.com (Alan Commike) writes:

>>A2000, 2091 controller. 
>>
>>I added a second hd to the my machine. I was able to format and partition
>>it just fine. When i rebooted, the machine now locks up in the middle of
>>the boot sequence. 
>>
>>Anyone seen anything similar to this? The 2091 is 2 - 3 years old. 

>Lemme guess.  Is your new drive, by any chance, one of the older Maxtor
>units, like an LXT200S or something?  There's some trouble with the ROMs
>on those drives that won't allow the machine to cold boot, hanging the
>SCSI bus with the symptoms you described.  I'm told there's no fix.

>You can warm boot the system just fine once it's locked, right?


Nope!


It's an old priam 738 (thanks John for the jumper info). It doesn't warm
boot, just hangs in the same place. I get the same thing if i boot off of
floppy or my original drive.

I have older 5.?? roms in the 2091. I've heard the 2091 roms are up to
6.??. Any ideas if that may help??



Why would the bus hang on cold boot and not on warm boot? It looks like
it's time to look into what happens at boot time, how autoconifig works,
and the scsi protocol. Can anyone enlighten me on this???


thanks,

	...alan


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