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From: vince@bme.ri.ccf.org (Geoff Vince)
Subject: PAL Tapes ??
Organization: Biomedical Engineering, Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:14:52 GMT

I have recently moved to the U.S from England and brought a number of VCR 
tapes with me.  Although I understand these cannot be played on my U.S. VCR (
Panasonic S-VHS) as they're in PAL format, I would like to know if I 
can record over them?  I realize that as they are not S-VHS tapes I will not 
be able to record in S-VHS, although they may be useful for general use.  I 
know I could put them in and try it, but not being much of  mechanical wiz I 
didn't look forward to untangling the tape from the machine if it didn't 
work.

Thanks in advance

Geoff
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Joggling Still-Image of a 4-Head VCR?
From: gutierrez@vxd.ug.eds.com
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:25:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: EDS Unigraphics, Cypress CA
Nntp-Posting-User: gutierrez

In article <C19IoG.HGo@news.iastate.edu>, jnchou@iastate.edu (Jen-Nai Chou) writes:
>      Sorry.  Looks like I did not make it clear.
> 
>      There is only one frame on screen.  This frame vibrates 
> (shake, tremble, quiver) vertically.  The amplitude of this 
> vibration is only about half inch on my 20 inch TV.  But it 
> is quite rapid. 
> 
>      I am sure it is not caused by my TV because I have tried
> all adjustment knobs on my TV.  Also, I tried tracking (VCR)
> but in vain.
> 
>>
>>    My questions: Is this normal with all 4-head VCR?  Or, is it 
>>normal with this particular model?  OR, do I have to exchange it?  
>>Isn't it supposed to have frozen image on a 4-head VCR?  What model
>>should I get if I want a frozen still-image?
>>
>>    Thank you for your answers.
>>
> -- 
> --- Jen-nai Chou    jnchou@iastate.edu    -----------+-----------  < / >
> --- 122 Town Engineering                        _/~~~~~~~==========/
> --- Iowa State University                      <________/ 
> --- Ames, IA 50011  (515)294-9989               _/___/_     


Back in August last year, a two-hour sampling of all 9 brands of
4-head, Hi-Fi VCRs at a Good Guys store showed (to the amazement of
even the two salesdroids who set up the demos) that two brands came
up very much ahead of all the others:  Fisher and JVC.  Both showed
no "shake, tremble or quiver" and the still-image frozen onscreen
was clear and sharp.  I wound up buying the Fisher, not because it
was better, but for the reason that it was priced $75 lesser.

You could try doing the same thing (a demo, I mean).  You will be
surprised that there's a lot of salespeople out there who will go
out of their way to do this for you.  The two guys who helped me
actually enjoyed the demo themselves.  They said that they never
get a comparison demo at all; what they get is a demo of each new
brand that comes in.  But how this new gadget compares to others
in their shelves is something they have no actual way of knowing.

-dan-
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Re: Showtime is running Cape Fear LBX
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:17:26 GMT

nealg@pokey.sybase.com (Neal Goldsmith) writes:

>Starting last night (1/14/93) Showtime is running "Cape Fear" in letterbox
>format. I couldn't believe it!

>I talked to them this morning and they said they already had one negative call.
>I was the first positive call.

>If you want to see this continue, call Showtime Networks at (818)505-7700,
>ask for the PR department.

Having just returned from a few weeks in Europe I was amazed to see MOST
movies were shown in letter-box form on French TV.
From: lrs@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Larry Schwarcz)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:15:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Sony MDP-605 vs. MDP-333... Upgrade or not?
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
From: pirrung@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (G. Pirrung)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Just what is a ST-180 Video Tape?
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:46:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


In article <1jv27aINN5ka@slab.mtholyoke.edu>, pryack@MtHolyoke.edu (Paul Ryack)
writes:

>> $8.00 for Sony. Maxell ST180s are about $15.

and R. Kevin Oberman  [Internet: koberman@llnl.gov] writes:

-> I only use it for the ST180 length. Some how I just like the Fuji better.


\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\


My question is, just what is the 180 length?  180 implies that you
get 180 minutes of recording time in standard play, and thus 
9 hours in extended play (SLP).

I have been aware of T-160 tapes, which my VCR has a switch to accommodate.
The T-160 tapes give you 160 minutes in standard and 8 hours extended.

When were the T-180 tapes referenced by Ryack and Obermen put on market?
From: efo@dtc.kodak.com (Ed Oswalt)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: How do you degauss a TV set?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:56:10 GMT
Reply-To: efo@dtc.kodak.com
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company

In article 27452@omen.UUCP, caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes:
>In article <1jtf38INNo2l@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields) writes:
>>
>>I moved a rather large speaker by my TV set, then when I moved
>>it away I noticed that the colors on the bottom fifth of the screen
>>were distorted (purple/green).  Did I just completely ruin my TV?
>>
>>I know that more expensive Mitsubishi's have a degauss button.  This
>>is a Mitsubishi, but has no button.  Help me please.

I believe most good quality TV's go through a weak automatic deguass at powerup. So it may clear itself up over time - or you could accellerate this by doing multiple power ups and downs. If that doesn't do it you can either buy a deguassing coil (I have seen them in electronics supply catalogs) or take it to the shop & have it done ( I image it would only cost 10 -20 bucks or so.

Ed
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: North American HDTV
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 05:44:37 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Is there any news about HDTV in North America yet?

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Birthdate: 29 Jan 1969, Redhill, Surrey, England, UK
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Help: How to program a FISHER RVR-6600
From: Azmi Hashim <AXH113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:41:15 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Hi all,
       I know I am no expert in this field, so I am leaving it to the
experts in this newsgroup.

1. I have a F RVR-6600 VCR but I dont have the manual. The person who
sold it to me didnt include it in the package.

2. Can someone tell me how to program this VCR. And tell me what's the
meaning of QTR.


Ok,that's it, please e-mail me on this cos I usually dont read this ng.
Send your suggestions to axh113@psuvm.psu.edu
From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Schmuck wants a VCR
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:08:38 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <C1ItCp.FFF@ssesco.com>, nau@ssesco.com (William Nau) writes:
> 
> I'm a bit of an audio nut.  I want HiFi.  If HiFi sound quality varies
> from one brand to the next, I'd like to know.  I want both audio
> inputs and audio outputs.
> 

It does.  I find the Sony's (at least the 525) had a more flat response curve.
(However, my three units are Panasonics, for other reasons.  Four, if you count
the own I bought my parents.)


> I want a good picture.  I'm rarely impressed with the quality of VCR
> pictures.  SVHS would be nice, but I probably wont pay that much.
> 

Try recording in SP.  It makes a big difference.  

> Reliability.  Enuf said.
> 

That's one reason why I have Panasonics, but I'm certain that whatever top tier
manufacturer you choose, you'll hear from those who love 'em and those who hate
'em.  Sony seems to be taking a beating now, alt least for their monitors.

Why do I buy Panasonics?  Because 10 years ago, when I went to buy my first
machine, I noticed there was a particular model that all the video stores in
this area were using for their rental unit.  (Remember when you could *rent* a
VCR for an evening?!)  I figured that if it was good enough for that kind of
abuse, it was good enough for me.  And it's still in service--even though the
kids have stuff wet paper towels and Lord knows what else into it.  (I am *not*
claiming today's machines are equally durable, however.)  So I keep buying
Panasonics, and they don't disappoint me.  (Battery backup would be nice,
though.)


Other recent postings have made me curious about JVCs.  You might want to look
into them. I have no personal experience.
From: william@terapin.com (William Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: WANTED: S-VHS VCR
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:45:38 PST
Organization: BBS

I'm looking for two S-VHS VCR for my video system.
If you have one for sale, please reply with your price, brand name, model and
how mnay years you had.
From: chen@speed.uucp (Lilei Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Tape length
Keywords: 8mm, tape
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:30:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1993Jan21.213019.4586
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

I need to know the physical length of a 2 hour 8mm tape (NTSC).
I would appreciate it if someone on the net would email me the
answer.  Thanks.

Jim (xue@cfaft5.harvard.edu)
From: pka@engin.umich.edu (Payman Khalili)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony SLV-696HF Problems
Date: 25 Jan 1993 07:33:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: giskard.engin.umich.edu

In article <bdn3y0f@rpi.edu> spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
>
>BTW, I posted about my problems with the 696 a few weeks ago, and have since
>exchanged it for another one. The new one also has the same problem.
>Personally, I think this is unacceptable for a supposedly Hifi VCR, but 
>the return/exchange period at my store has expired. So now, I'm basically
>stuck with a defective VCR. At least the 90-day warranty is still in effect, 
>but god only knows how much shipping and handling will cost me.
> 
>Given the number of people I have seen on the net who have had the same
>problem with the SLV696HF, I would hope that Sony is catching flak for 
>selling a VCR with such a fault. I will certainly add to it with
>a phone call and/or letter. Will any of you with similar experiences do the
>same?
>
>-Matt, a little pissed at an otherwise good VCR...

Matt, 

I'm glad that others are also thinking about giving Sony a hard time 
about this.  The sound quality really sucks.  The popping, etc. in
the HiFi track is really unacceptable.  I will definitely write to 
Sony and bitch.  Also, I will call them up and see what that accomplishes.
This really sucks!  I mean, I already had a perfectly fine VCR.  I 
purchased the 696 to get good quality HiFi sound and what do I get?
A lot of crackling.  

There is absolutely no point in buying a HiFi VCR if it's going to 
have such lousy sound.  

The customer service number for Sony is 1-800-222-SONY.  I suggest
that everyone with problems with their 696 give them a call and 
demand an upgrade (or something).  Maybe we can get an R5 out of it?

-Payman
From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: How do you degauss a TV set?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:28:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Distribution: world
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: bambam.u.washington.edu

stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad) writes:
> gre253@its.csiro.au (Steve Green) writes:
> |>aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields) wrote:

> |> > I moved a rather large speaker by my TV set, then when I moved
> |> > it away I noticed that the colors on the bottom fifth of the screen
> |> > were distorted (purple/green).  Did I just completely ruin my TV?

> |> > I know that more expensive Mitsubishi's have a degauss button.  This
> |> > is a Mitsubishi, but has no button.  Help me please.

> |> It's my understanding that TV sets are auto-degaussing. Therefore your set
> |> will heal itself - in time.

>     Isn't the degaussing function implemented by the on/off switch?  I
> read somewhere that repeatedly turning the set on and off will accelerate
> the deguassing process (in the absence of a dedicated degauss button, of
> course).

I don't know about the features on TV's, but I know how to degauss a
CRT.  In the absense of a proper degaussing gun, you can use a bulk tape
eraser.  With the TV on, hold the bulk eraser directly in front of the
picture tube (say, about an inch) with the magnet pointing toward the
screen.  Then gradually move it away until the picture looks normal.

-- 
Il Hwan Oh                              | "You live and learn.
Computer Facilities Manager             |   At any rate, you live."
University of Washington, Tacoma        |            -- Douglas Adams
iho@cac.washington.edu                  |
From: marcob@polo.Italy.Sun.COM (Marco Barsotti - SUN Italy )
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: PALPlus
Date: 14 Jan 1993 10:33:19 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: marcob@polo.Italy.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: polo.italy.sun.com

In the january issue of a british satellite magazine, there is a
reference to the forthcoming "PALPlus Standard" for terrestrial broadcast.

There is no explaination of what it is, but the article seems to
suggest that it is normal pal with 16:9 aspect ratio.

Anyone have more details ?

Thanks

Marco Barsotti
Sun microsystems Italy
From: danrama@wam.umd.edu (Daniel Bloomfield Ramagem)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Surround Sound and Pioneer CLD-M301
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:03:48 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

While wishfully looking at the Pioneer CLD-M301 LD player I noticed
that it has a "front surround" button.  What does this mean?
Does the player itself do the surround decoding?  That way on the back
there would be four amplifier outputs (Left and Right Front Speakers,
Left and Right Back Speakers) ?

On the same subject, is surround sound dependent only on a special decoder
or the equipment playing the media as well?  Let me see if I can explain
it better... i.e. if I have a stereo VCR and a surround sound decoder/amplifier,
will I have surround sound?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!  I'm sort of deciding between
the Pioneer CLD-S201 and the M301.  This "front surround" feature could
decide which one I'll take...  Thanks a lot!

dAn(!)
danrama@wam.umd.edu
From: oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: S-VHS tape outlets
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:10:56 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1jv27aINN5ka@slab.mtholyoke.edu>, pryack@MtHolyoke.edu (Paul Ryack) writes:
>> 
>> I buy from Tape World of Butler, PA. They have given me excellent service and
>> will match any legitimate price. (At least they have for me.) They carry most
>> major brands. I prefer Fuji and Maxell, but that's up to you. ST120s run about
>> $8.00 for Sony. Maxell ST180s are about $15. I have yet to price the new ST200
>> tapes.
>> 
>> 1-800-245-6000 and they are on Eastern time.
> 
> Do you have any comment on relative quality?  As another newcomer to
> S-VHS, I've found JVC XG to be quite grainy, especially at SLP.
> TDK XP looks a lot better.  How are the ones you  mention?  Thanks.

I have been VERY pleased with Fuji. I have no real problem with the Maxell, but
I only use it for the ST180 length. Some how I just like the Fuji better.
(Nothing like quantified results, huh?) All of my "standard" archive recordings
are on Fuji ST120 tapes. My experience with TDK XP tape has not been very good.
I found the chroma PM noise a bit high. I've only had one JVC tape in my life
and that was the ST60 that came with my first SVHS machine, so I really can't
reasonably compare with current JVC offerings.

R. Kevin Oberman			Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Internet: koberman@llnl.gov		(510) 422-6955

Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing
and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.
From: lippo@madre.dasd.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: TR-101 & Mail Order Help??
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:07:34 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Inc. DASD
Nntp-Posting-User: lippo

I am thinking of purchasing a Sony TR-101 camcorder.  Does anyone have
any experience buying this camcorder mail order.  Several mail order places
have told be Sony doesn't allow this camcorder to be sold by mail, then
proceded to try to sell be the Richo equivelent.

Thanks 
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: elias@vallenar.ing.puc.cl (Elias Andalaft)
Subject: Sony 13TR24 TV problem
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:44:45 GMT

    I am trying to calibrate my 13 inch Sony 13TR24 TV, but I find it very
difficult to determine the right GREEN position.  When I turn up the SCRN
control, the word 'VIDEO' that appears when there's no input signal, appears
to have a certain 'ghost'. So I turn down the SCRN, but the picture gets too 
dim. I've tried to lower the SCRN and raise the RED, GREEN, BLUE controls, but
it happens the same thing.

    Is there any other control that can correct this ???
    Also, how do you adjust the V.STAT. ??

Thank you.

Elias Andalaft Venegas
email: elias@vallenar.ing.puc.cl
:
From: mre@ukc.ac.uk (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: What tape do we have here?
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:22:29 GMT
Reply-To: mre@ukc.ac.uk (Mike)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <4819@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <9301210544.AA23473@heartland.bradley.edu> tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu writes:

[...]

><1a.  Am I correct that it was likely shot in the wrong format?  
>
>Not a wrong format, as viewed from the French point-of-view.  But, it was
>probably shot in PAL (yes, France is SECAM, but I understand that video tapes
>are recorded using PAL).

This is true, but a little misleading.

Hi-8 and S-VHS formats do NOT have a SECAM variant.  The signal is
transcoded to PAL on record and back to SECAM on replay.  The tapes
ARE therefore interchangeable.

However, 8mm and VHS (the low quality versions of Hi-8 and S-VHS) DO
have a SECAM variant and these tapes are NOT interchangeable between
SECAM and PAL machines.

Since the original question was about a Hi-8 recording, the original
answer was correct, but unfortunately the poster of the reply
editted out the tape-type information.  Hopefully this posting
clears up any possible confusion.

-- 
Mike Ellis, Darwin College, The University, Canterbury, Kent, England, CT2 7NY.

    ********* Views expressed are my own and in no way represent *********
    *********     the views of any past or present employers.    *********
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: stevenj@microsoft.com (Steven Johnson)
Subject: Mitsubichi U-56 source
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:53:10 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.


I'm looking for the best mail-order source for a Mitsubichi (spelling
on this must be wrong) U-56 VCR.  "Best" in my terms is:

1. Lowest Price
2. Best customer service  (i.e. returns are accepted, etc.)

Length of time to get to my door isn't a factor if it's within four
weeks.

Any good leads?  If you have a phone number to go with the name I'd
appreciate it.  Thanks.


Xref: sparky rec.video:16216 rec.video.production:2177
From: seb@LNS592-E1.TN.CORNELL.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.production
Subject: Panasonic AG-1970 experiences?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:24:38 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Reply-To: SEB@lns61.tn.cornell.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.84.219.92

Gentle folk,

I've seen several advertisements for Panasonic's new S-VHS editing
deck, the AG1970. Has anyone had any experience with it?

For example, is its two-line TBC adequate?
In particular, does it manage to remove the "hammer" effect 
(flagging at the start of a field due to the heads encountering the edge 
of the tape)?

Does the VCR seem to be sufficiently robust?

The advertisements have been rather lacking in technical details.
It'd be nice if someone with a spec sheet could post the "important" parts.

Thanks!

Selden Ball
seb@lns61.tn.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: larson@unet.net.com (Alan Larson)
Subject: Re: Memorex 8mm VCR with Audio & Video Dubbing
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:07:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.095748.4989@spcvxb.spc.edu> killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:

>Any 8mm/Hi8mm VTR that has stereo has AFM stereo.  8mm never had low fidelity
>stereo linear tracks like VHS.  Even the PCM units must record AFM stereo so 
>that the tapes will playback on none PCM units.

  Not true.  Many of the machines with PCM stereo only had AFM mono.

	Alan
From: pirrung@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (G. Pirrung)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony TAE2000ESD Source Direct
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:25:19 GMT
Organization: The Internet


- David Altekruse, dna@ampex.com responds:

>7) If I'm buying the sony, all inputs will go throughout it. Is there a
>   possibility to bypass all settings? I have seen the source direct
>   switch, but it seems that analog sources are going through the ad-da
>   circuits. So what does exactly the source direct switch ????

-->  All DSP settings (Pro-Logic, ambience, equalization, compression/
-->  expansion) are by-passed in the "Source Direct" mode.  As you state,
-->  analog signals still go through A/D->D/A, however.  (Don't ask me


I beg to differ. The block diagram in the back of the manual shows a line
going around all the digital circuitry directly to the front R & L only.
This is also stated in the front of the manual that the processing
circuitry is bypassed in this mode. I haven't hooked mine up yet,
but am relying on what is in the manual :-)
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Memorex 8mm VCR with Audio & Video Dubbing
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:57:48 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1993Jan22.155552.15991@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, young@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (young.u.huh) writes:
> In the VCR/Stereo Buyer's Guide (from Video Magazine), there is
> a short description of the Memorex 16-654 8mm VCR as follows:
> Hi-Fi stereo sound; frame advance; freeze frame; forward/reverse
> scan; audio dubbing; video dubbing; flying erase head. -- $500
> 
> I am mainly interested in how the audio dubbing and video dubbing 
> features work.  Would I be able to first record the audio (in PCM 
> stereo?), then record the video without affecting the audio, and 
> vice versa?  Does it also have AFM stereo?  Does it have any
> editing interface, such as Control-L?

Any 8mm/Hi8mm VTR that has stereo has AFM stereo.  8mm never had low fidelity
stereo linear tracks like VHS.  Even the PCM units must record AFM stereo so 
that the tapes will playback on none PCM units.

Audio dubbing can only be done via PCM tracks in the 8mm/Hi8mm format.  AFM is 
recorded with the video - PCM is recorded on seperate tracks.  Keep in mind 
your dubs go away if you put the tape in a none PCM unit.

Video dubbing?  I believe that would a first for a consumer VCR in this 
format.

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