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From: hamid@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Hamio Reza Mohammadi Daniali)
Subject: Re: Those Wacky Iranians (Apologies to Harry)
Originator: hamid@vangogh.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 01:27:54 GMT



Danny Keren writes:        

<From today's Israel line:

------------------------------------------------------------- 
<Today's YEDIOT AHRONOT reports that Syrian President Hafez Assad
<recently relayed intelligence information to King Hussein of Jordan
<which assisted in revealing a coup aimed at overthrowing the King.
<Assad even allowed a Syrian citizen at the beginning of this week
<to appear before a military court in Amman to testify on funds
<transferred from Iran to the Islamic underground in Jordan

Why should Iran transfer money through a Syrian agent!!!!?????? 


<, for the
<purpose of assisting plans to overthrow King Hussein. Among those
<arrested in the plotted coup are two members of the Jordanian
<parliament who represent the Islamic front.

The members of the Islamic front of Jordan officcially visited Iran several
times. Again the same question:
Why should Iran transfer money through a Syrian agent!!!????? 
Why Iran didn't transfer the funds to them directly !!!!?????
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
From: gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu (Goof)
Subject: Re: Answer to nabeel
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:40:44 GMT

In article <4374@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.044328.12261@muddcs.claremont.edu> gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu (Goof) writes:
>>
>>	Neither does the discussion about the Egyptian singer.  She maybe
>>	mideastern but it had nothing to do with politics.  Of course I
>>	forgot you're too mature for me oh Ohm Maturity.
>
>So perhaps you should address your concerns to Danny Keren, who originally
>asked the question.  It didn't specifically have to do with politics but
>with Middle East culture, whereas you are just using this opportunity to
>put Marwan down, and debating about what institution is better has no
>relevance to this newsgroup and no interest to many people.
>
>And we should expect you to eat your words about maturity because I am
>more than one or two years older than you and my writings do not resort
>to infantilism.

	Forget it, responding to this isn't worth my time or effort.

	Geoff

>
>Anisa


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Email: gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu            

A .sig?  A .sig? We don't need no stinkin' .sigs!
From: marwang@caip.rutgers.edu (Marwan Gharaybeh)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Answer to nabeel
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:41:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu (Manu) writes:

>My God!  Look what the cat dragged in!  MARWAN!  Glad to see you're still
>alive and posting absurdities. 

Manu ... Long time no read... It is really funny that you even mention
the word "absurd" when all your postings (including this one) usually
smell stincky.

>	Where do you go, Rutgers?  I think that says it all.
>Email: gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu            

Just where/what on earth is claremont ??!!!
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Hadi el-gossah gossat hamdah ...          ||      \___/ \__/ |      (_|____/ |
Hamdah, el-rimsh elly yitehaddah ...      ||       |  \_/    |        |      |
galat mareedak ...                        ||  \___/      /   |   \___/    *  |
mareedak, lo tethbahnee be`eedak mareedak.||            /
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From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ohm Salam)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Question in Arabic (was: Re: EGYPT: LET MY....)
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:32:22 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <43040@imag.imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>
> The word "Kulthum" means cheeks. Little kids are described as "Mukaltham"
> which means "has beautiful cheeks".

:-)

>: What do you say Yahia?
> Well, i'm not Yahia, but i hope my answer is OK :-).

Of course ... I didn't mean to exclude other contributers to the
discussion.  Food for thought ya Ibaa.  :-)
 
Anisa
	So, can we apply the meaning to Ms. Koukab Asharaq?  :-)
 
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From: gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu (Manu)
Subject: Re: Answer to nabeel
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:48:11 GMT

In article <Nov.9.18.41.32.1992.925@caip.rutgers.edu> marwang@caip.rutgers.edu (Marwan Gharaybeh) writes:
>gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu (Manu) writes:
>
>>My God!  Look what the cat dragged in!  MARWAN!  Glad to see you're still
>>alive and posting absurdities. 
>
>Manu ... Long time no read... It is really funny that you even mention
>the word "absurd" when all your postings (including this one) usually
>smell stincky.
>

	What absurd and stinky have to do with each other, I haven't the
	faintest idea, however, when I post I don't go around spewing
	ridiculous numbers and false facts as do my detractors.  If I
	make a mistake, I'm willing to admit it.  That's more than I can
	say for most of my opponents.




>>	Where do you go, Rutgers?  I think that says it all.
>>Email: gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu            
>
>Just where/what on earth is claremont ??!!!


	Why don't you get a map and find out?  (Try outside of Los Angeles.)

Geoff

>______________________________________________________________________________
>                                                                             _
>Marwan Gharaybeh:                         ||                               _(_ 
>                                          ||               | |               |
>Better Known as ...                       ||    ()         | |               |
>                                          ||           _   | |      .-     | |
>Hadi el-gossah gossat hamdah ...          ||      \___/ \__/ |      (_|____/ |
>Hamdah, el-rimsh elly yitehaddah ...      ||       |  \_/    |        |      |
>galat mareedak ...                        ||  \___/      /   |   \___/    *  |
>mareedak, lo tethbahnee be`eedak mareedak.||            /
>===============================================================================


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Email: gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu            

A .sig?  A .sig? We don't need no stinkin' .sigs!
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Turkish Businesmen in the Former Soviet Union
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:30:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.221621.17168@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David  
Davidian) writes, among other things:
> 
> ........................ Of course a week after the
> gas was turned on again the Chechens (read Russians) blew up a 100 meter
> section of the pipe bringing gas to both Armenia and Georgia............
> .........
> The situation in Georgia (or what will be left if it) should be of concern to
> Turkey. The situation there is very bad. The Russians have sent over 4,000
> Chechens to Abkhazia to fight the Georgians simply because there are not 
> enough Abkhazians to fight.............
> 

David, please do NOT read Russians for Chechens.
Chechens are totally out of control.  Their leader Dudaev declared Chechenia
to be independent and threatened nuclear terrorism if Russian try to impose
military rule.  In short, he is about as crazy as they come, and while the
Russian government may have difficulty getting rid of him, it definitly
does not support his, and his followers' wild actions.

In fact, blowing up the gas line was an anti-Russian act.  That Armenians
were hurt even worse was incidental, just like innocent bystanders sometimes
get killed when two gangs are fighting each other.

As to Chechens going to Abkhasia to fight Georgians, I have no idea why are
they doing this.  Certainly not to serve any Russian agenda:  Dudayev's
main purpose (besides holding onto his own power) is getting rid of Russian
colonialism in Caucasia, and there hardly can be anything more inimical
to that purpose than turning Abkhasia into a Russian province.  Besides,
he hates Yeltsin's guts.
The only explaination I can think of, he might hate Shevarnadze even more :-(. 

**********************************************************************
Vadim S. Kaplunovsky,              | #include <std_disclaimer.h>
Assistant Professor of Physics,    |
University of Texas at Austin.     | My English isn't THAT bad,
vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu         | but my typing stinks:-(.
From: arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)
Subject: Europarliament verses Argic and his payers
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 20:01:54 GMT

	The following is the text of the resolution of the European
Parliament passed on the 18 of June, 1987 in Brussels:



	"The refusal of the present Turkish government to acknowledge the
Genocide against the Armenian people committed by the Young Turk government,
its reluctance to apply the principles of international law to its differences
of opinion with Greece, the maintenance of Turkish occupation forces in Cyprus
and the denial of the existence of the Kurdish question, together with the lack
of true parliamentary democracy and the failure to respect individual and 
collective freedoms, in particular freedom of religion, in that country are 
insurmountable obstacles to consideration of the possibility of Turkey's
accession to the Community".


	
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From: arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)
Subject: Armenian crimes revealed.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 21:06:37 GMT

 
Ladies and gentlemen, it is not easy to make confessions. I thought
that my first one will do it, but as it turns out - you can not hide the truth.
Either you tell all of it, or nothing. So let everybody know that the 
pernicious activities of the Armenians can not be limited merely to the modern
age. All of this started long time ago ... 

	I am not going to refer to such well-known facts as Armenian organized
sabotage of the Babylon Tower construction, when as a result of a nationalistic
demonstration organized by Dashnaks/ASALA/CDU  the ideas of linguistic
intolerance and exceptionalism were propagated among  foreign workers
and engineers. (See Boyadjian, pp. 102 - 140., see also Ramseus II, 
"Armenians demand symultaneous interpreting", [government archives or JPRS])

	It would be too easy to admit the obvious fact of Armenian organized
World Flood, when sheltering in their mountains they cold-bloodedly watched
the rest of the human kind drown in this way trying to fertilize and irrigate
their otherwise stony valleys. Once their plans failed, they joined the
passengers of the Arch and exposed them to emotional abuse throughout 
the whole journey, singing nationalistic songs and chanting "We want our land
back".( See Noah, "Memoirs", ch.V: "60 days of Armenian horror", ch. VI:
"Snoaring as a method of political pressure", pp. 102-167).

	All of these facts are fairly well known and do not need any further
historical backing. But the real atrocities were still to come: in 1453 the
Armenian tourists provoked the Turkish cultural-exchange delegation headed
by Mehmet the Curious and Osman the Merciful, thus forcing the peaceful
artists, innocent aestets and ethnologists to take shelter and retreat
to Constantinople, fleeing the vicious attacks and shelling from Armenian
submarines based in the straits. 

	As a result of this barbarious action thousands of Turkish refugees
were killed and mutilated trying to force their way into the public buildings
and houses of the city looking for protection. 

	The Greek Emperor was so upset about the autrocities committed
against the advancing Turkish peaceful armies, that he had a heart attack
that day, and died along with 3/4 of the population of Constantinopolis.

	This is still not all. In our next edition we will keep you
informed about Armenians collaborating with Chingiz-Khan and Leng Timur,
inspiring the Crusaders and instructing the Spanish inquisition.

					The Historical Society.
From: MS3098A@AMERICAN.EDU ("Melinda M. Schmiechen")
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Opportunity Moscow '92
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:06:30 GMT
Reply-To: "talk.politics.soviet via ListServ" <TPS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>
Organization: The American University

Does anyone know of this conference that will be occuring in Moscow in December
?  It is being sponsered by the international Trade Newtork and the Jhoon Rhee
Foundation for International Leadership concerning joint ventures between U.S.
companies and Russian companies.
Also, does anyone know of any major Russian officials coming to the States in t
he near future?  Thanks, Malinda
From: 055434@uottawa.bitnet (Sean Maguire)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: "Zap* the criminal" of IBM violated the US criminal and
              copyright laws.
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:04:55 GMT
Reply-To: "talk.politics.soviet via ListServ" <TPS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

On Sunday, November 8, our favorite multi-poster Mutlu/Argic/.... wrote:

"And your crimes will not go unpunished, "Zap the criminal" of IBM.  Well,
 I'll not waste words."

 H   H      A       !!!    H   H      A       !!!   H   H      A       !!!
 H   H     A A      !!!    H   H     A A      !!!   H   H     A A      !!!
 HHHHH    AAAAA     !!!    HHHHH    AAAAA     !!!   HHHHH    AAAAA     !!!
 H   H   A     A           H   H   A     A          H   H   A     A    !!!
 H   H  A       A   !!!    H   H  A       A   !!!   H   H  A       A   !!!


And to think, Mutlu, some people don't think you have a sense of humour.  This
had me rolling on the floor for a few minutes.  You're too much, Mutlu.
(Too much of what, I don't know).


Sean Maguire
055434@uottawa.bitnet
From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Dzerzhinski
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:11:49 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


David Davidian notes:


>I noticed the statue of Derdzinski, founder of the KGB, in the square where 
>the main KGB building(s) are located, has been replaced by an Orthodox cross, 
>in Moscow. Is there some significance to this replacement, that is, why a 
>cross? When I inquired regarding this cross, I was told that not only was 
>Derdzinski the founder of the KGB, but was also of a Jewish background. What
>kind of answer is this?



      Felix Dzerzhinskij was Polish; he certainly was NOT of
      Jewish descent.  However, some Russian "patriots" would
      prefer to blame Jews for foisting Bolshevism upon Russians
      than to take responsibility for their own fate.

      You're right, David, to be taken aback by such an
      answer.

-- Eduard
From: mitra@igc.apc.org
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: looking for E-MAIL number in Moscow
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:07:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:2NOV199214291874@pavo.concordia.:-1758952637:cdp:1483700096:000:184
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mitra    Nov  4 20:07:00 1992


Sorry your subject line says very little - are you looking for a phone number
to call to obtain an email account in Moscow or the email address of someone 
in Moscow or what?

- Mitra
From: dave@proteus1.UUCP (david harmon)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: hello!
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 09:54:14 EST
Organization: Proteus Communications, Washington D.C. * node 1

Hi! I reside in Washington DC and am trying to connect to Soviet states 
to converse.  If you receive this let me know and where you are.  I am 
new to this BBS and its software.
From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Independent Chuvashia II
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:32:12 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


"Borys" writes:


>      Your arguement is quite absurd.   Questioning whether New York City
>   would want to secede is ludacrous.   The areas are quite different
>   politically .   The Chuvashans probably consider their culture under threat
>   from the Russians (lets be honest here, our 'Great Russian' big brother
>   does not have the best track record, eh?)


      So what has Russia done to threaten Chuvash culture?  Please
      be specific, Borys.  And, for Pete's sake, put away the
      ridiculous "Great Russian" big brother stories which lend no
      support to your abortive argument.


>     I will concede the point that economically, the area will nearly totally
>   be dependent on its neighbor.   Going back to New York city,  nobody
>   is threatening to politically assume control over it.


      Actually, I find Mr. Mednikoff's comparison a legitimate
      one.  Perhaps the Gorb was right -- everyone just wants
      to slice up the pie... Ugh.

-- Eduard Wiener
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Derdzinski's replacement
Date: 9 Nov 1992 20:35:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov9.131151.3577@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:
>cross? When I inquired regarding this cross, I was told that not only was 
>Derdzinski the founder of the KGB, but was also of a Jewish background. What
>kind of answer is this?

I always thought (and still do) that he is Pole. This is probably some
newish invention of look-under-your-bed people.

As for the cross, it probably symbolizes transfer of 
"Gosudarstvennoe Politicheskoe Upravlenie" (chronologically second name
of KGB) to "Gosudarstvennoe Religiosnoe Upravlenie".

Yury
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
From: mb7s@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Mikhail  Boukhny)
Subject: Re: Narva in the inter-war period
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:21:30 GMT

On the other hand, Sergey Viznyuk is a well known russian nationalist, at least
since the time he abandoned Russia.
Misha.
From: craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Craig R Albrechtson)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: The Greeks are indeed evil (:-)
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:43:46 GMT
Organization: Cyberdyne Systems
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <9211061458.AA12591@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>My friend Hasan B-) Mutlu of AT&T, Chicago, IL writes:
>
>> >looking out both for the interest of the US and the interest of Greece.
>> 
>> Will it make the crimes of the Greek governments disappear? Not a chance.
>>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>  <<In Corfu Jews were subjected to violent attacks and almost constant
>>   persecution by its Greek population. They had to row in the galleys

                      Lots of mindless drivel totally unrelated to 
		      the ex-soviet union deleted 

[Flame on]

Hey pal what planet are you from, cant you FUCKING READ, this it 
TALK.POLITICS.SOVIET, its bad enough we have to put up with 
Mutlus endless stupid posts.  Why do we have to read about stuff that 
has nothing to do with the Ex-soviet union.  What on earth made you think
that this was a good idea putting this Greek stuff on talk.politics.soviet.

Use you brain for a change, keep relevant posts on relevant newsgroups,  I'm 
sure most you you out in net land would agree with me.

[Flame off]
-- 
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* Craig Reese Albrechtson (Slider) * University of Wisconsin Milwaukee *
* The usual meanless disclaimers apply * craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu       *
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 11 Nov 1992 17:59:24 CST
From: ---  BORYS  --- <U52539@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Independent Chuvashia II
 <1992Nov10.172807.12229@synapse.bms.com>

      Your arguement is quite absurd.   Questioning whether New York City
   would want to secede is ludacrous.   The areas are quite different
   politically .   The Chuvashans probably consider their culture under threat
   from the Russians (lets be honest here, our 'Great Russian' big brother
   does not have the best track record, eh?)

     I will concede the point that economically, the area will nearly totally
   be dependent on its neighbor.   Going back to New York city,  nobody
   is threatening to politically assume control over it.
From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: NATO: RUSSIA violates the international law
Date: 7 Nov 92 08:41:01 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Quoting e-mail, again:

> NATO AGAINST SUSPENSION OF WITHDRAWALS. According to BNS of 5
> November, citing the NATO News Bulletin, the NATO leadership thinks
> that last week's suspension of troop withdrawals from the Baltic
> states violates international law. NATO reportedly called on Russia
> to continue the pullout.  (Riina Kionka, RFE/RL, Inc.)

with the best regards,
the observer
Tapani Hietaniemi, Universitas Helsingiensis
                   urbs fennorum
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Independent Chuvashia II
Date: 12 Nov 1992 00:32:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <92316.175925U52539@uicvm.uic.edu> ---  BORYS  --- <U52539@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>   The Chuvashans probably consider their culture under threat
>   from the Russians (lets be honest here, our 'Great Russian' big brother

I was under impression, that Chuvashans probably consider their
culture to be same as Russian culture. In this field big brother
does have pretty good track record.

Yury
From: ferd@Bridge.COM
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Yeltsin & Clinton chat
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:48:19 GMT


PROPONE RUSIA A EU UNA MAYOR REDUCCION DE ARSENALES NUCLEARES

    MOSCU 5 de Noviembre (NOTIMEX).- El presidente de Rusia Boris
Yeltsin propuso hoy al presidente electo de Estados Unidos, William
Clinton reducir los arsenales nucleares de ambas potencias a una
tercera o cuarta parte de su nivel actual.
       Yeltsin converso hoy durante 20 minutos por telefono con Clinton
para felicitarlo por su victoria en las elecciones presidenciales
pasadas e invitarlo a visitar rusia para fortalecer los contactos
bilaterales de ambos paises, sin especificar fecha.
       "Dos potencias como Rusia y Estados Unidos no solo deben ser
socios sino aliados", dijo Yeltsin a Clinton.
        En la conversacion el presidente ruso ofrecio un recorte de los
arsenales nucleares estrategicos a una tercera o cuarta parte de su
nivel actual.
       El acuerdo START firmado en 1991 por la Union Sovietica y Estados
Unidos contempla reducir a la mitad los arsenales nucleares.
       Dicho acuerdo fue ratificado horas despues de darse a conocer los
resultados de las elecciones en Estados Unidos por el parlamento de
Rusia pero no ha sido aun aprobado por los parlamentos de Kazajstan,
Ucrania y Bielorusia.

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