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From: wdorsey@lila.Eng.Sun.COM (William Dorsey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Fitting a motorcycle in a minivan
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:42:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: lila

Anyone know whether it's possible to fit a smallish motorcycle (FZR400)
in a Ford Aerostar minivan?  I'm considering renting one of these to
transport a FZR400 in, but am not certain if it will fit.

Reply via email, please.  If there's enough interest in the subject,
I'll be glad to summarize.

- Bill Dorsey
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: NEED INFO: KAWASAKI VULCA
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:42:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> and preferred it over the Suzuki VX800 and the Honda Nighthawk (Honda
-> owners, before you take offence, seems like they changed the model
-> this year and the new one is *not* shaft drive but chain instead).

 They ditched the center stand, the shaft, the bikini fairing, and some
smaller doodads, then upped the price 25%.  Fork 'em.  Any of the old
twincam shafty Nighthawks would be a good bike.  Look for a clean used
one, or have your dealer call and see if Honda still has an old one in
inventory somewhere.  That's how I got my Yamaha Turbo!
                                                                                      
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 23:12:00 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 78 Kawasaki 1000 for $600
	<16523@plains.NoDak.edu>

Howdy,
wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) writes:
> 2)      I dont think you'll do to well with it if your driving test is 
>         anything like North Dakota's.  One of the skills you must demonstrate
>         here is a tight u-turn.  I have a friend who at the time I was taking
>         my test had a Hurricane 1000.  As I was practicing my test on a wkend, 
>         he was playing around with the U-turn on his hurricane (he had passed
>         his test several years earlier on a CB350).  It was so tight that he
>         could not stay within the lines even when he walked it through (IE.
>         bike in neutral, power off, sitting on bike walking it through the 
>         course).  This was in 1988, but id have to say I'd bet money that
>         even the big hurricane handles better than a 78 Kawasaki 1000 (ANY
>         model :)

Well, you were doing okay, then you threw this in :-)

A Hurricane will indeed handle better than the Kawi (well, stock that
is), but low speed manuvering is more a function of fork travel than
damping rates, etc.  The Hurricane, and most other sportbikes, have an
enlarged turing radius due to the clip-ons being limited in travel by
the tank.  Presumably the Kawi wouldn't suffer from this problem.

The biggest problem for low speed manuvers would be the extra weight
and size, but even this may not be a problem if the bike's geometry is
fairly stable.

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		DoD #813	|
| ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu		AMA/CCS AM #811		AMA #700560	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '78 KM100 (commute-in-snow)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, exhaust, etc...  |
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I Saw One!!!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:44:28 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1992Apr16.165014.4786@Princeton.EDU> bdhepler@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brad D. Hepler) writes:
>I saw it today!! I couldn't believe it!! Right on the road in front of
>me!!
>It was Red!  It had radical bodywork!!  It was --  it was --

Ugly?

>um, it was a Pacific Coast.
>Well, it was a first for me, anyway.

I had a similar reaction to it the first time it scarred my retinas. Can you
say quadruple-take? I half expected the thing to start gaining altitude and
cruise the freeway from 20' up...
Just me opinion, of course.

Jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* Yamama 650 Maxim           | "It's not how fast you go on the fast parts, *  
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) |  it's how fast you go on the slow parts."    * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) |                           - Dilip Ballamore  *  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: twln5@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: Suzuki RG500 - Anyone know anything?
Reply-To: twln5@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:06:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.170119.10045@ichips.intel.com>, mfisch@pdx064.intel.com (Matthew Fisch) writes:

> I've raced a lot of 
>|> GSXRs, stock and modified, so I have some experience to draw on. How many
>|> times have you raced my Gamma?
>|> 
>|> Randy Norian
>
>  Geez...I was just relating something that I SAW, and I THOUGHT I was backing
>up what you said (Gamma was impressive!!)... did it come across as any different ???
>
>  And as far as the question "How many Times have you raced my Gamma ?", obviously
>never, since you don't remember choking on my fumes...asshole.>|									     |
>|   Matt Fisch								     |
>|   mfisch@ichips.intel.com						     |
>|									     |
>|                          #75 - Team Banana Racing 			     |
>|				SUZ GSXR-1186				     |
>|									     

Jeez, Matt, ought to put that Phaser on stun instead of Kill!
And as for eating crow, I was flattened by a modified GSXR1100 and a pipe/
jet/filter/geared/electric-shiftered FZR1000 last friday. Any more
CAM2 fumes in my face and the decals will start falling off my bike!

Randy Norian
From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Any Interest in DoD Caps?
Summary: No.
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:04:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs

In article <CMM.0.90.2.703270996.arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arnie Skurow) writes:
>
>I was posting to see if there might be any interest in DoD baseball style
>caps.  The same guy who made the shirts makes a high quality, all cloth
>cap with our DoD Logo screened onto it.

    Gack.  Not caps.  But how about some custom painted WWII German helmet
    style custom painted biker helmets!

    Just kidding about the helmets.  But I don't like the idea of caps.
    Not at all....  Belt-buckles will be next, followed by DoD snuff boxes,
    etc...
--
    Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

    "Traditionalists often study what is taught, not what there is to create."
			     - Ed Parker, Grandmaster, American Kenpo.
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:39:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr9.003900.15622
Reply-To: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr8.183717.4965@ncar.ucar.edu>, jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu
(John Sloan) writes:
|> 
|> I call them the best beginner's bikes ever designed. Consider:
|>
[lots o crap deleted]

sounds like a BMW r bike to me.

laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pfs@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Paul Schnettler)
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Organization: University of Wisconsin Physical Sciences Lab
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 21:18:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.192634.8953@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> wjp@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.j.penschow) writes:
>In article <kdrwv3i00iUxA4YnYq@andrew.cmu.edu> jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam) writes:
>>As I was pulling mme big CB750 upinto the bike area at CMU I saw a Honda
>>CX500, I have never seen one of these before, it looked to be around mid
>>80's and to have an airplane engine in it. What type of powerbox is in
>>those bikes, they look cool and squidy.
>>
>>NADZ
>>DoD #528
>
>The Honda CX-500, built 1978-1983 (I think), is a longitudinal V Twin of
>474 cc displacement with 4 valves per cylinder, fed through a pair of (I
BZZT wrong 496 cc 2 valves per cyl.
>believe 35 mm constant velocity carbs with electronic ignition and liquid
little bzzt (mine has 40 mm CV'S

>cooling.  Single disk single piston single caliper front and drum rear

dual double disk double piston cliper front
Brakes, shaft drive and UJM styling.
but then mine is the GL500 which produces about 5 bhp more than a Cx
>
>Strong points are gobs of engine torque from 2500RPM to just below 10500
>redline, consistant neutral handling with little shaft effect, and a nice
>smooth positive transmission (5 speeds), coupled with an almost bullet-proof
>low maintenance engine.  Weak points include marginal stopping power, lower
>legs against cylinder head covers if you are over about 5' 8" tall, soft
>front forks, and the need for a frame mounted fairing.
>
>Family members include a Turbo version and a big brother 650 which also was
>Turboed.  Available in Custom, Deluxe (longer frame) and Touring versions
>the touring version which started life as a 500 and the became a 650 was
>known as the Silver Wing.
>
>Cool looking! YES   Squidly NO The turbos would go like a bat out of hell
>but the basic handling was not up to staying with the sport bikes of their
>day.
>
>All opinions expressed herein are mine!  No one else would want them!
>
>Pops Penschow ----- DoD #0079 ----- AT&T - QM&E ---- ...att!homxb!szuxr!wjp
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                    Why do they call me "Pops"?
>          Could it be that I am getting too old for this shit!

>     Old Iron and an Older Rider make for an interesting combination!
Paul Schnettler    DoD #7734   P.S.L. Stoughton, Wi.
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Locks, Jackets: CHEAP
Keywords: Cool Tech, Abus
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:53:44 GMT

After whining and pleading on the net for months, I finally went out
and did some research in my quest for an Abus moto lock.  

It turns out that I drive by a pile of them twice a day!  

The east coast Abus distributor is in Burlington, MA.  They have
discontinued the moto lock line for lack of sales.  After some
pleading, I got the top of the line lock for $57.  They have some
more in stock.  These locks are unpickable and are not vunerable
to the famous Kryptonite cryo-attack.  The literature is mostly
in German, though.

Also, I called Cool Tech looking for prices on a new jacket.  I was
stunned to find that they still stock a few of the original Hero model
jackets ( summer only -- no liner ) for the blow out price of $129!
That is $60 less than the 1988 intro price, and $300 less than any
other new Cool Tech jacket.
They only have oddball sizes and colors in stock, but these are brand new
Cool Tech jackets.  I found one that fit.  Its on its way.

I took the MSF intro course this past week.  It was great.  The cost 
was about -$5 when the HRC rebate and the reduction in insurance is 
figured in.  You gotta like being paid to go to riding school...


-- 
	 Frank E Perdicaro, Systems Admin, etc.		Xyvision Color Systems
      Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.		101 Edgewater Drive
   inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572				Wakefield MA
outhouse: frank@contex.com, 617-245-4100x5572		018801285
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 1992 19:05:23 EDT
From: <GNR100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Restrictions for moped?

    Could anyone help me with information regarding restricions for mopeds?
I need information on liscensing, insurance, and safety gear.


Thanks alot.

Gordon Rogers
gnr100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin)
Subject: B.S.A. Forsale
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:23:10 GMT

From: david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin)
Subject: B.S.A. A65T FORESALE
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:13:52 GMT
I have 1971 B.S.A motorcycle for sale, It is a thunderbolt (single carb), 
this bike 95% complete, It has been given a complete restoration and just 
needs some minor bits to finish.
The price is $1800.00 and so far has had a complete engine rebuild, frame 
painted, new bearings through out, new electrics, lots of chrome (but not 
overdone).The frame is stoke. If interested email me at address below.
                                                               	
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
David Watkin  79 XLCH                            Internet: D.Watkin@uws.EDU.AU
Technical Officer                                    Phone: +61 45 70 1446
University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury               Fax: +61 45 88 5867
RICHMOND  NSW  2753
Australia
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
David Watkin  79 XLCH                            Internet: D.Watkin@uws.EDU.AU
Technical Officer                                    Phone: +61 45 70 1446
University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury               Fax: +61 45 88 5867
RICHMOND  NSW  2753
Australia
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From: steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Taxing bicycles? (note new subject heading)
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:51:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: IntelliGenetics, Inc., Mountain View, California USA

Note new Followup-To line.

Hello, earth to bicyclists!!!  Can you read the Newsgroups line?
Good.  Feel free to edit it using your favorite editor.  We have
motors between our wheels; you don't.  That's why there are two
separate news groups.

Thank you.

--steve

From: danb@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Dan Bergmen)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:19:03 GMT
Subject: Re: How are these bikes rated: Suzuki VX800, Vulcan 500, 750 Nighthawk
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

I've been riding for thirty years or so and have owned nine or ten
motorcycles, two of which were shaft driven, the rest chain driven.
After having owned shafties for the last fourteen years or so, (a
Yamaha XS1100 for ten years and presently a 1985 Honda Nighthawk S)
I would never consider another chain drive machine.
With chain drive you get:
1) a chain that needs to be lubricated.
2) a chain that needs to be adjusted.
3) a chain (and sprockets) that need to be replaced periodically.
4) a rear wheel that needs to be kept in alignment with the front wheel.
5) a mess you have to clean up after lubricating the chain and it flicks
   off.
6) noise.

With shaft drive you get:
1) a quiet final drive that you can forget about (like on a car) that
   needs an oil change every 24,000 miles or so.

Granted, a chain drive is lighter in weight, more efficient, less
expensive initially and under maximum performance conditions has less
effect on the handling, but unless you are an all out sport rider, you
won't benefit from these advantages and will be stuck with the mess.
(My Yamaha did have shaft effect that compromised handling, but this was
a lousy handling bike anyway. My Nighthawk S handles superbly and I have 
never noticed any shaft effect whatsoever.)
	      ^^^
I hope this helps.
			 ...Dan
From: wbrooks@chesapeake.ads.com (Bill Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Meta-flame, etc...
Keywords: steel mines
Date: 3 Apr 92 18:03:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems division of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

In article <1992Apr3.143517.2204@cs.wayne.edu> pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood) writes:
>Steel?  When did Japan open steel mines?  Or are you talking about the

Didn't you know?  Japan has been mining steel since the 1700's.  Where did
you think all those Samurai swords come from?  They had these guys that would
dig holes in the side of Mt. Fuji and with no light at all (they didn't have
DoD lighters back then) would search for a vein of steel.  Of course, all the
really good sword mines are played out now (that's why there aren't any more
new Samurai swords).  But they do still have lesser grade steel mines that
they get cars out of.

Yes, Patrick, this was a flame. :^)

-- 
	Bill Brooks		wbrooks@ads.com		(703)243-1611
       Advanced Decision Systems, a division of Booz-Allen & Hamilton.
               DoD# ---  HA!  I never conform to DoD standards!
FZR600 Rider, Mac Hacker, X-Men fan, Llama trainer wannabe, ex-chop suey fighter
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:12241 rec.bicycles:8625
From: amug@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (User's Amiga Group AMUG)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bike Light HELP!
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:31:37 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <BM8v09.FFq@world.std.com> kdg@world.std.com (Keith D Gregory) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.024840.6041@src.umd.edu> tedwards@src.umd.edu 
>(Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
>>So now I need desperately to commute to school at night,
>>but I want to avoid hitting something I don't see again.
>>However, I'm a student, so money is always a problem.
>>
>I have been using the Brite Light system for about 3 years now, and am quite
>happy with it. It puts out enough light that I'm comfortable on streets
>without lights; I don't think I'd take one off-road, however. The battery
>
>I've been thinking about buying one of the CatEye halogen clip-on lamps, for
>use on my other bikes (the Brite Light is on my commuter bike). I have one
>of their "flashlight" style clip-ons, but it's only good for letting other
>people know you're there.
>
>-kdg

Hmmm. I've been running with a 100 watt halogen, and it does a
pretty good job, of course it helps if I keep the revs up and
don't let the bike idle too long with the light burning. I do
supplement this with an auxilary system though. My bike has a
police special (10 D batteries, anodized aluminium case with
a halogen lightbulb) mounted on brackets, so that when I'm 
out of Molson or Jack Daniels, and there is a bonehead bicyclist
riding by braille at 11 pm or so, I can use it to help
the chump on the way. You'd be amazed just how much starlight
people see after a healthy knock on the head with one of those
puppies.

Those bycicle weasels are a menace to society, why, just
yesterday three of them clad in racer garb rode through
traffic (abreast, not inline) during rush hour on the
main town throughfare, and today they are posting 
rec.bycicle stuff to rec.motorcycles. Somebody ought to
let the hound loose on those guys.
 
 Oleg
DoD 388 XJ1100J "Big Maroon"
not official amug stationery.

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington)
Subject: Help: 84 Honda V65 Saber backrest wanted 
Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA
Organization: BNR Ottawa, DMS Software Design
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:37:46 GMT

I just aquired my V65 saber and was looking for a backrest
for the bike.  My local dealer here said no more were
available from Honda, and no more from aftermarkets.

I've sent for the corbin catalogue, hoping that maybe
they would have a gunfighter & lady saddle, but ultimately
I think a proper backrest would be better.  Next time
any of you Honda owners are at the parts counter, ask and
see if they have any sitting around collecting dust.

Also, maybe any of you who have ordered all of those aftermarket
catalogues can check if they have a backrest for the bike.

I'm also checking local cycle wrecking yards.

I'd appreciate any contacts.  My email address is:
MBEAVING@BNR.CA


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= Diclaimer: these are only my opinions    |   MBEAVING@BNR.CA              =
= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:??? =
= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65 Saber    =
= Who needs parking spaces when there's plenty of sidewalks?                =
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: *Motorcycle For Sale*
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 04:12:46 GMT

 andyc@ESD.3Com.COM (Andy Chan) writes:
>viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>> (Steve Garnier) writes:

>>>OK.  I'll match your offer, and raise you the toe-jam from my left-foot,
>>>all my nail-clippings from last week, three *very* used tissues, one roll
>>>of used toilet paper, five dingleberries, and the lint recently extracted
>>>from my baby daughter's cute little nose (and no, I don't know how the lint
>>>got there).  But that's it...not one damn thing more, nosiree!

>>Alright Steve, you can have the bike.  It was the lint from your baby
>>daughter's nose that did it -- there's no way in hell I'm going to have
>>a daughter just so I can match your offer and get yet another japanese
>>motorcycle.  Best thing about kids is not making them but giving it
>>the old college try, I always say...

>Dan, I'll sell you mine for the discounted price of $99,999.99 or
>all of the above (minus baby lint of course) plus two of your nose
>hairs.

	Really?  No baby-lint?  Hmmmm...  Well, I guess it all depends
on how clean you want your nose hairs, and how to arrange shipping.  I
think you ought to pay it, seeing as how I've got a cold and these
hairs are of superior quality and workmanship.  Would you like them
"regular" or "extra crunchy?"

<Daniel R. Sorenson   Dod #1066  |If Iowa State University agreed with me >
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu <- work |I'd make $90K/yr.  They don't, I don't. >
<viking@iastate.edu      <- play |"I am *not* goofing off.  I am driving  >
< myself mercilessly in the pursuit of relaxation." -- T. Weeds           >
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech
From: floyd@eng.umd.edu (Mike Hughes)
Subject: Re: Looking for a suction cup/magnet (dent pull)....
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:27:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

[I'm getting worse and worse at posting...eh?]

	Another method to pull dents w/out drilling is to braze or solder a 
small washer (about the size of a penny) to the metal.  A coat hanger/welding
rod can be brazed or welded to the disk before the disk is brazed to the body,
and then a good yank on the rod should pull the dent out.  Is there a rec.
autos.body?   Good luck...-Mike

:Suicidal Tendencies=====> He's a carrier of death a stork in reverse,        :
: =8^) Mike Hughes  =8^( : he blesses you with sickness cause love is a curse.:
:Mail---floyd@eng.umd.edu: The arsenic in your Koolaid, the bomb in your mail,:
:Voice--(301) 340-0922   : he disappears in motion but leaves a bloody trail. :
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Tue, 07 Apr 92 09:53:06 CST
From:         Brad Thone <C09615BT@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Newsgroups:   rec.motorcycles

Is it not the case that belt-driven motorcycles are the large, slow-to
accelerate Harley's and such?

Is this not because the belts are not as strong strength) as chains?
(Can chains handle the great loads under hard accelerations better than
belts?)

Maybe I'm screwy......
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