From: el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (This Space for Rent)
Subject: Re: SF2 Whiners.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:42:28 GMT

<U58505@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>In article <Bw3MAA.K1C@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cw21219@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Crying
>Freeman) says:
>>Is it just these Chicago area players are so pathetic that they
>>can't handle being thrown AT ALL? Or is this a common plague across the
>>nation?
>>

>Alright you Guile-playing fagboy.  I wouldn't say it's a common "plague"
>across the nation, I'd say it's a common "convention" across the nation.

It's so that newbies like X-Man won't get mad when he loses his
little quarter.

>When I started going to UIC and kept in touch with you assholes I was
>able to parallel the game's development at both our schools.  Basically
>UIC was playing "catch up" with UIUC.  This, of course, pertains to the
>time period of the original throw style in UIUC; not the whiny boys
>time period you guys have right now.  A play area will either develop
>into an "all-is-fair-in-love-and-streetfighter" area (UIUC) or a
>throwing is cheap area (UIC).  When I started playing at UIC I didn't
>even know ticking existed until the Wilferbutt told me about it.  So
>when I first tried it, all the Guile studboys here wanted to teach me
>a lesson for disrupting the "status quo".  Since that was my first

There's not much difference then.  The masters were the ones who knew
how to tick.  By "teaching you a lesson," I assume you mean that they
ticked you to death.  They just did it because they were afraid you
might get good at it and beat you with it.  Hence, the "outlawing"
and "reinforcement" of your "common convention" by the local masters.

It happened here.  People who weren't very good at the game, but were
good at ticking were successful players.  But eventually that passed.
We're left with good reflexes, timing, and strategy with regard to
throws.

The only difference here was that the masters ticked you whether you
were good or not.  I think that's fair.  As one female street fighter
sonce said to me, "Don't go easy on me.  I'll never learn anything
that way."

>attempt at ticking I didn't know what the fuck was going on.  Then
>I told you that ticking was looked down upon here and you tell me that
>UIC players are a bunch of wimps cause that's all we do down here in
>Champaign.  It was kind of hard to envision a place where all you
>guys did was nothing but throw; and I was like, Jesus man - it must be
>vicious playing there.  Granted it wasn't too bad that one time I came
>down, except for that "Quasi-Boombi" Zangief dude; argh, fucker wouldn't

Heh, yeah.  That was probably Tak.  He didn't speak much English, and
he was the only Zangief player around here who could do that to a guy.
He used to pump at least five bucks into the game when it was just the
two of us there, and I never gave him second rounds, either.

>even give me second round.  I still hate him - not because he ticked,
>but because it was so obvious that he could crush my Ryu anytime he felt
>like it and still he wouldn't give me second round.  I think he got all
>pouty on me  cause I would always just walk up and throw at the start of
>the match which I guess he really wasn't expecting from a Ryu player.

You think he's pouty?  Look at your pathetic self!  You're whining
about how he wouldn't give you second round?!  Why should he?  He's
better than you.  Maybe he doesn't want to waste his time with someone
who won't even be a challenge.  Maybe he'd get more of a challenge out
of the computer.  At least the computer throws.

>The bastard was really starting to grate on me and rubbing it in too.

Hmmm... doesn't sound like Tak.  He's real quiet, mainly because he
can't speak English very well.  And there really weren't any Zangief
players around here.  It's not like anybody here to rub it in your
face after you lose.  Maybe Quinn, but he's not here anymore, and he
always sucked at Zangief.

>I swear man - I was gonna smash his face into the monitor and break
>his fingers so he could never play again (or jack off).  Well I think
>I went off to a tangent.  Uh, anyways; I think most areas in the U.S.

Yeah, this is the typical shit we have to put up with from "Cheapness
Whiners."  Thank you X-Man, I couldn't have thought of a more sterling
example than what you've just shown us.

>develop into throwing-is-cheap areas; which is why I think areas like
>UIUC are isolated occurences and rarely happaen.  Yup, through some
>fluke or twist of fate (looking at the notes you gave me, the pivotal
>point was during the game's infancy at Champaign) you guys were cursed
>(or maybe blessed) with developing into a throw area.

Hey, why be normal.

>>I guess I'm just a dick, but sometimes when I'm in the mood to, I'll start
>>throwing like crazy just to get less experienced players to try to tick me.
>>There've been a few times where none of the other "regulars" are
>>around and I play the same throwing style that we have now reverted to.
>>Then everyone tries to tick me back and yes, sometimes they do catch me
>>with it, and the crowd will cheer, but it's never enough for them to beat
>>me. (Against these guys I can counter about 70-80%)
>>Though this has only happened maybe three times this semester, it's
>>pretty funny (to me, and my brother who I alternated one of those times)
>>BTW I play Guile and I never really use the jab jab throw cause I think
>>it looks so ugly, but I do follow sonics and throw...
>>

>Same here the jab jab throw or short short throw looks so inelegant.
>If you're gonna tick may as well look cool doing it.  My home area is
>going through a transition stage, sort of, I guess - well they're
>ticking like crazy now anyways.  The jab jab throw stuff isn't looked
>down upon but you get laughed at if you do it; the premise being that
>you should be a better ticker than that.

It's not looked down upon here if you can manage to pull it off on me.
I'm embarrassed to say that sometimes it DOES catch me by surprise, and
the people cheer as I'm slammed into the ground.  I'm happy.  I certainly
can't say that I didn't deserve it. :)

>Well, I've wasted enough bandwidth
>Later fag
>The X-Man

By they way, this post WAS meant to be condescending and derogatory.
I mean, if X-Man is gonna "cry Cheap" at our whole school, I'm gonna
say something back.  Besides, with all these elections and debates
going on, I'd like to get a few flame wars going myself.

I'd like to end on this note:

I've seen Dan Quayle.  I've listened to Dan Quayle debate.  Mr. X-Man,
you're no Dan Quayle.  (Is that Quayle with and 'e' at the end? :)

Aggravatingly yours,
Ming

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