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From: hall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert J. Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: how do you kill an active prsvr job?
Keywords: prsvr aegis
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:16:40 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle



<swamp@bnr.ca> writes:
>Every so often, someone here prints a postscript file without the
>-trans option. I have been trying to figure out a way to kill
>the job from the shell pad, short of shutting off the printer or
> .......

<b_kondalski@trwvssi.vssi.trw.com> writes:
>I've been wondering about this for awhile also.  It's a real pain when a user
>sends a postscript file non-transparently.

I've been told that it is basically impossible to kill the job once it has
transferred to the printer. There's probably some way to scan for postscript
or extra long text files before it is transferred to the print server, however.
Perhaps someone has a good print script that will check for this sort of
thing, and prompt the user before printing? Or maybe there is a filter that
will automatically print a postscript file as postscript (unless the user
specifically uses the '-trans off' option.)
-- 
 Bob Hall,                 | "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
 Workstation Peripheral    | Then give up. No use being a damn fool about it."
 Boeing Computer Services  |                                     -Groucho Marx
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: szabo_p@maths.su.oz.au (Paul Szabo)
Subject: DN10k (SR10.4) problems: SOLVED (I hope)
Reply-To: szabo_p@maths.su.oz.au (Paul Szabo)
Organization: Mathematics, University of Sydney
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:37:33 GMT

Some time ago I wrote about problems with our DN10k crashing at SR10.4.P. We
had patch pd92_p0467 installed; this seemed to be the cause of the crashes
(we only had some 'mild' problems without it). The solution seems to be to
use patch pd92_p0485 (SR10.4.0.4) instead: seems that patch p0467 is 'bad'.
(Thanks to Simon Momber from the Australian response center for finding this
out, and making patch p0485 available to us.)

Paul Szabo - System Manager   //        School of Mathematics and Statistics
szabo_p@maths.su.oz.au        //   University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Australia
From: mitchell@dvorak.amd.com (Tom Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Ikon board driver/software
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:30:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: dvorak.1992Oct8.163052.7194
Reply-To: mitchell@dvorak.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Device Comm. Products Div

I have a couple of Ikon boards (combination centronics/versatec i/f)
in DN5500's.  These are driven by  Mentor Graphics VPR print server 
software.  I would like to dump raster files from lpd and various other
packages to versatec plotters attached to these devices.

Anybody have any ideas on how to drive them directly?  The choices I think I
have are:

1) Use existing Mentor VPR software in 'transparent mode'.  This is
   workable but depends on Mentor licensing scheme.
2) Find some existing driver
3) Write a driver

By the way, I do have the vpr_at_call.lib and vpr_at_int.lib files
mentioned by the DDF file for the board.

Tom Mitchell (512) 462-5951    email: mitchell@amdcad.amd.com
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.   Austin, Texas
From: krowitz@QUAKE.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re:  trouble finding getarg and iargc
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:56:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: srvr1.9210141354.AA09866
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

"man getarg" under an SR10.2 BSD shell will tell you that this 
function is part of the BSD F77 library /usr/lib/libU77.a

A "nm /usr/lib/libU77.a" command show the symbol "getarg_"
as being defined. Maybe you don't have the BSD environment installed?
Maybe your "ld" command isn't searching the proper cross-language
calling conventions?

== Dave Krowitz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: roeber@vxcrna.cern.ch
Subject: Are /sys/mgrs/dtm* documented?
Reply-To: roeber@cern.ch
Organization: CERN -- European Organization for Nuclear Research
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:27:36 GMT

I seem to recall that the /sys/mgrs{,.split}/dtm* type and trait
files have to do with the driver-side of the domain X servers.

Are these documented anywhere (officially or otherwise)?
I have to get X windows output on a VGA card, to feed into some
hardware, and it would be awfully nice if I could just slip in
the device driver and use the regular server.

Thanks!

-- 
Frederick G. M. Roeber | CERN -- European Center for Nuclear Research
e-mail: roeber@cern.ch or roeber@caltech.edu | work: +41 22 767 31 80
r-mail: CERN/PPE, 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland | home: +33 50 42 19 44
--  
"Sorry, baby, I can't take you to the pizza joint tonight, I've got to go
back to the lab and split the atom." -- Ayn Rand, "What is Romanticism?"
From: gupta@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Ashok Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Availability of OSF_MOTIF version 1.1 for the HP/Apollo Domain 5500
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:37:39 GMT
Reply-To: gupta@prl.philips.co.uk
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Redhill, UK

There's some confusion at HP, here in the UK, about whether this is 
actually available as a single separate product. Indeed they sent
me version 1.0 when I ordered 1.1.  :-(

Now I'm told I'll have to buy HP_VUE 2.01, Xlib, XtInstrinsics
and other GUI stuff too as they're bunded together with OSF_MOTIF v 1.1.
And these are priced together at twice what I paid for OSF v1.0 last year.
Price alone isn't the problem - I don't want to have to buy stuff I
know I will not ever need.

So can any one please tell me whether OSF v1.1 is available as a
separate product for the Apollo Domain 5500 ?  I'm only interested 
in binaries and libraries - not source.  And what version of the
OS I need to run it ?  And its cost and lastly where I can get it from ?

Please email.

Thanks

Ashok
From: bergstr@src.honeywell.com (Darryl Bergstrom)
Subject: Re: $DISPLAY not getting set
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:44:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.220118.2747@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:
>thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM (jt -- John Thompson) writes:
>
>:)> On one of our systems, the DISPLAY environment variable is not
>:)> automatically set upon logging on.  On all other systems, it is
>:)> properly initialized to ":0" if a user logs in to the console.
>:)> 
>:)> I've tried to find where the magic file is that sets DISPLAY, but
>:)> ...
>
>:)On our systems, at least, it's in `node_data/startup.<DISPLAYTYPE>
>:)I don't think that this is my customization, but you never can tell....
>
>On our systems I put a statement in /etc/profile (for /bin/sh and
>/bin/ksh users - which is all of us at our site) which reads:
>
>DISPLAY=`/etc/hostname`:0.0
>export DISPLAY
>
>There are several places you can put a line like this (or something
>similar) as mentioned above. 
>

I wouldn't be so quick to just make it a default, there are applications that
have ascii and X inplementations (emacs/epoch).  If DISPLAY is set for these
application, they will try to use X first and if you login from home, they will
not start properly.

I check the $term variable .login (/bin/csh) if it is not xterm, I 
unsetenv DISPLAY.

-d
From: marlow@sys.uea.ac.uk (K. Marlow PG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: maximum disc sizes - help
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:49:09 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

Hello,

  I wonder if somebody could help me, I'm after trying to assertain the
maximum physical disc space that can be mapped by an Apollo 3500 running
SR10.3.  If anybody knows this magic number could you please Email me.

  Thanks in Advance

    Keith Marlow


--
Keith Marlow,              *  When you love someone; You're always insecure;
Information Systems P/G,   * And there's only one good way to reassure;
University of East Anglia, *    Tell her about it...
Norwich. Norfolk NR4 7TJ   *
From: gordonb@mcil.comm.mot.com (Gordon Berkley)
Subject: RE: elm2.3pl11
Organization: Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:28:56 GMT

The real question is:  why are you using 2.3PL11??  2.4 was just released!

Further, most of the apollo-related problems (sigh) have been found.
In the current version, I have been doing beta testing for the Apollo.
There are *still* some specific apollo-isms that remain, But I hope to
get an "apollo.read-me" file included.

-- 
[  Gordon D. Berkley    INTERNET: gordonb@mcil.comm.mot.com   POST: cgb001   ]
[  PHONE: +972 (3) 565-8727      FAX: +972 (3) 565-8754      (UTC-2)         ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: maint@positron.uucp (Maintenance Account)
Subject: Re: how do you kill an active prsvr job?
Keywords: prsvr aegis
Reply-To: eric@csi6.med.ge.com
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:04:27 GMT

In article <3859@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> hall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert J. Hall) writes:
>
>
><swamp@bnr.ca> writes:
>>Every so often, someone here prints a postscript file without the
>>-trans option. I have been trying to figure out a way to kill
>>the job from the shell pad, short of shutting off the printer or
>> .......
>
>
>I've been told that it is basically impossible to kill the job once it has
>transferred to the printer. There's probably some way to scan for postscript
>or extra long text files before it is transferred to the print server, however.

prf has an option, -sig_pr abort, which I thought was *supposed*
to abort an active print job. The last time I tried it, however, (at SR 10.2
or early 10.3) it didn't work. I think it returned "option not implemented"
or something to that effect.

Eric Bushnell
CSi Technologies at GE Medical Systems
eric@csi6.med.ge.com

Disclaimer: As far as I know, I don't represent anybody.
From: rkw@OKC-UNIX.AF.MIL (Ron Wallman LAETA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Transition to HP-UX
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:04:39 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Been working on issues related to moving to HP-UX. If anyone out there
is working this same problem I'd like to make an e-mail contact to
exchange information. Thks.

One of many problems I'm pondering is what to do with all my archived
tapes (8mm [omniback], 9-trk [wbak], cartridge [wbak]).  What I think
I know so far;
  a) Can read 8mm[omniback] in my new HP9000/7xx[HP-UX] environment as
long as I keep an HP/Apollo system in reserve.
  b) Can read 9-trk tapes in other formats. BUT is there a HP-UX utility
to read wbak tapes?????
  c) Transfer or bury the cartridges.

  
Ronald K Wallman (civ)                    United States Air Force 
                                          Oklahoma City Air Logistics Center
Phone: 405-736-5575                       OC-ALC/LAETA
E-mail: rkw@okc-unix.af.mil               Tinker AFB, OK   73145-5990
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: mjl@newton.auto.tuwien.ac.at (Martin J. Laubach)
Subject: Re: elm2.3 pl11
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:03:45 GMT

|> I have compiled elm2.3pl11 using sr10.4 and cc6.9 I get a illegal instruction
|> trap when I try to send mail. Has anyone seen similar behavior

  Ha, another one! This was the reason I was asking about the timezone()
function a little earlier. The punchline is, you have to alter all calls
to timezone() to _bky_timezone()...

  See you,

	mjl

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: drd@macsch.com (Daniel R. Dawson)
Subject: Re: how do you kill an active prsvr job?
Keywords: prsvr aegis
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:03:36 GMT


Although the real question is how to kill an active
print job, here is a solution to the problem of
users that print postscript without the -trans option:

1) Rename /com/prf to something else (like /com/prff)
2) Make a script /com/prf that does:

#!/com/sh -nstart
eon
if eqs ^1 "" then
   args "Usage: prf filename [options]"
else
   if existf ^1 then
      check := ^"/usr/ucb/head -1 ^1 | /bin/grep -c PS"
      if eqs ^check 1 then
         /com/prff -trans ^*
      else
         /com/prff ^*
      endif
   else
      args "File ^1 does not exist."
   endif
endif
eoff

Now this may not keep all the cruft out of the printer
but it works okay for us.  We also use a similar script
to keep non-postscript files from going to our color
postscript printer (the thermal wax transfer roll and
paper is $$$).

   Dan Dawson
   The MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
From: krowitz@QUAKE.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re:  DM owner system call ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:02:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Just use the Unix "system" call to do a /bin/who call and see 
who is logged in from the "console" port.

Or ...

Use the Aegis pgm_$invoke call to run a "/com/lusr -allp" to get
a listing of all the processes on your machine with their respective
owners (including the display manager process).



== Dave Krowitz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers)
Subject: strange "touch" behavior
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:12:02 GMT

I find that even with the -f option, touch refuses to
update files you do not own?  Why is this so when as
far as I understand this is equivalent to:
 echo -n "" >> filename

which works on any file you have write access to?  The
only reason this is even a pain, is just because many
makefiles use touch, while many directories use acl's
to inherit owner.

                          Bill
From: robs@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert Sipe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: finger update question
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:30:30 GMT
Organization: Boeing

My Apollo network of 400 workstations is having problems keeping the
/etc/passwd file up to date.  That is, when a user finger's a login of
another user the information that is returned may be out of date.  Why
does this occure?



-- 
Statement made by Oliver North when asked to comment on Clinton's draft
record.  "I would rather vote for Jane Fonda than Gov. Clinton!  At least
she has been to North Vietnam."
From: marcel@proxxi.se (Marcel Bos (SDF))
Subject: Apollo hardware job! Free ticket to sweden!
Summary: heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!with Apollo 660 domain
Keywords: help with a disc controller..
Organization: proxxi
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:00:34 GMT


I Marcel Bos sertching after a "hardware specialist" from the
apollo time. I do have problems with a disc controller, and
no one here  in sweden can help me with it! I've seen this machine besides
me dead for years and would like to have it to work.

YOU! get a free ticket to sweden and back again for fixing this
problem. This is not for kids! You shall know evry singel part
of the DN 660 system from SCRATCH! AND have all the manuals and
instrumets in you hands for this operation! Don't forget your
Reformer 110 <-> 220 volt 50 HZ..

If time reminds we do some relaxing he

reply to Marcel@proxxi.se
 	 Or by Hamradio
	 SM0UGT@sk0mk
	 or 46 8 550 354 77
	 (Don't forget the contry accses code)
From: dwv@ENGIN.UMICH.EDU (Doug Vander Wilt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Transition to HP-UX
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:32:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Some HP folks have said an 'rbak' port to HP-UX is planned.  That could make
'wbak'ed data accessible on 700s with the right SCSI hardware connected.  But
if your data is stored with the extended Apollo file-typing, you may still
need a Domain/OS node around to convert the data.  For example, Mentor Graphics
data conversion utilities only run on Domain/OS.  Once converted, the data can
be 'tar'ed ('feather'ed?) or 'cpio'ed to transfer to other operating systems.

Doug Vander Wilt
Honeywell MICRO SWITCH Division
dwv@cadnet.micro.honeywell.com
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Looking for ethernet board for DN3000
Keywords: buy,ethernet, dn3000
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:32:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvtyxz.AKA
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University


--
I'm looking to buy an ethernet board for a dn3000.  A used Apollo ethernet  
board would be acceptable.
----
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University             
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Universities SIG mailing list
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:36:22 GMT

A mailing list for the Universities Interworks SIG has been set up.
Any mail sent to 'univ@iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu' will be sent to all
list members. If you want to join the list, send mail to
'univ-request@iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu' or to me directly; everyone
who is already on the list should have got a message already -
if you didn't, please let me know.

The intended use of the list is for news and issues regarding HP and
Universities, including things like site licensing, general policies
and programs that are in place or should be or should not be,
program/policy announcements by HP, information about the use of
HP/Apollo equipment in education, etc. General discussion involving
topics like "public domain" software and/or porting of packages by HP that
are probably of interest only to universites may not be out of place,
though specific hardware/software questions/problems should be referred
to the Response Center, your local office and/or comp.sys.{apollo,hp}.
-- 
What are the chances that any HP computer system will ever "work" properly?
... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: werner@physics.uq.oz.au (Michael Werner)
Subject: remote mounting a HP MO
Reply-To: werner@dirac.physics.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Queensland
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:45:47 GMT

We have a HP 720 running HP-UX 8.07 and an Apollo DN10000 running SR10.3.
We will hopefully get our departmental Sys Adm to put up SR10.4 soon. 
The question is
can one NFS mount the HP MO disk attached to the 720 onto a mount point
on the DN10000. Also, can one set up Amd on the DN10000 to automount the MO.
The Sys Adm refuses to use NFS on either machine as he thinks there are too
many bugs. I would like some HP engineer to reply to this so I can pass
on the information. Currently the systems are being run like two separate
vaxes with serious resource problems. We need help in trying to move an inmovable
object!

-- 
Yours,

Mike

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+      *       *                        University of Queensland.          +
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From: krowitz@TREMOR.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re:  Transition to HP-UX
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:27:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: caen.5bcb2fda8.001024b
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Workstation Solutions (603-880-0080 if I remember my phone numbers
correctly) was showing a Unix utility program to read wbak/rbak
tapes on HP-UX machines at the IWorks conference in New Orleans.
It was priced at about $2000 for a single copy, $900 for additional
copies. I have not used it, so I can't give any evaluation. They claimed
it would do file-format conversions for many of the Apollo file types
(ie. convert REC files containing ascii data to regular Unix ascii files,
convert REC files containing SR9-style unformatted Fortran binary data
to the Unix F77 format, etc).

== Dave Krowitz
From: ta_k@maths.su.oz.au (Katya Ta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: 8 bit on apollo
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:53:43 GMT
Reply-To: ta_k@maths.su.oz.au (Katya Ta)
Organization: Mathematics, University of Sydney

Hi,

I have a program cxterm (chinese xterm) which requires the 8 th bit to be passed
through. I have tried stty pass8 but doesn't seem to work. Instead of getting a
chinese character, all I get is two ascii values. I think the 8th bit must be getting
stripped of. Does anyone have any ideas of how to deal with this. I'm sorry if this
isn't real clear, as I'm so confused with this :-(.

thanks a lot

bye
Katya

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: bennett@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Steve Bennett)
Subject: RE: elm2.3pl11
Reply-To: bennett@areaplg2.corp.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:25:16 GMT

Thanks for the info

-- 

#
# Steve Bennett (bennett@mot.com)
#
From: SP02038@SWTEXAS.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Patch tapes
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:14:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


        I have two questions for everyone.

        1.  I have little experience with HP patch tapes.  When you get
            a patch tape, do you have to install all of the patches or
            can you install selected patches?

        2.  There appears to be a need to post a list of SR10.4 patches
            to the net.  Will someone please post such a list with
            reference to which patch tape fixes what, and then update
            and repost the list on a monthly basis?

        I have seen a couple of "patched problems" on this conference
        I would like to have corrected on my system, but I do not have
        an extended service agreement (they want $25000 for that) so
        I get neither patch tapes nor notification of patch tapes.  You
        would think HP might have the wisdom to post notification of
        patches to this conference.  After all, the easiest way to keep
        a customer happy is to keep talking to him.

        Shaun Pankau
        UNIX Systems Administrator
        Computer Science Department
        Southwest Texas State University
        e-mail: sp02038@swtexas.bitnet or sp02038%swt.decnet@relay.the.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo