From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Subject: Re: "Discarded" Giants (Re: Jeff Brantley sucks!!!)
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:59:34 GMT

In article <4200335@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>>Lefferts - He was a free agent who did not want to stay in SF.  
>
>He wanted to stay with SF.  SF made it clear that they did not think
>highly of him by going after Righetti.  I think salary was an issue as
>well - this despite the fact that Lefferts had been doing the job for
>SF.  This swap of Lefferts for Righetti has been a total disaster.  Last
>year Lefferts had better numbers than Rags.  This year he does as well.
>In fact, in a year where the Giants needed another starter, Lefferts would
>have filled the bill.  I doubt that Lefferts was even offered a starting
>role by SF management.
>
    I think Lefferts is just having a good year with good run support
behind him.  Whether he is a good starter or not will be known next
season.

>>Mulholland
>>D.Cook   - They were traded for Bedrosian.  Long term it was not
>>C.Hayes    that great (I didn't like the Giants giving up two promising
>>           lefties either), but they desperately needed a closer
>>           and Bedrosian was the best they could find.  And the trade
>>           worked:  he helped them win the West and make it to the WS.
>
>This is your opinion.  Who can say whether the absence of Bedrosian would
>have made any difference.  Two starting lefties and a 3rd baseman is a bit
>steep for 1/3 season from a washed up reliever.  Today Bedrock is history.
>Where might the Giants be with two proven lefties and a reserve infielder?
>Thanks but I'll take the double digit wins this year rather than the 
>questionable value of Bedrock during the stretch drive.
>
     I absolutely agree with this one.  The Giants lost a workhorse in
Mulholland, who would have been the staff ace today.  Dennis Cook always
pitches well in Candlestick, and he is really still a prospect today.

>>If you are going to accuse the Giants of giving up on players and
>>making bad personnel decisions, please pick appropriate examples.
>>These are not.
>
>A matter of opinion.  While we are at it lets add the following to our
>list:
>
>o Butler for McGee
   This one really hurts.  The Giants still haven't find anybody to replace
   him yet.  
>o Leonard for Riles
   This looks like a good deal to me.  Leonard is near the end of his career
   and he had a bad attitude.  Riles is a great pinch-hitter for the Giants,
   considered that he was then traded to Oakland for Darren Lewis, this deal
   looks even better.
>o Downs for nothing despite 9 wins last year
   In fact, they should have released him at the end of last season.  A lot of
   his wins last season happened when the starters had a lead but failed to
   finish 5 innings, then he got a cheap win.  He had lost velocity on his
   fastball since those surgeries in 1989 and 1990.  

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>* Donald Boell - Hewlett Packard               *
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>* When you're chewing on life's gristle        *
>* Don't grumble, give a whistle - Monty Python *
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Edward Hui
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