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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Gerb Experiment
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:34:22 GMT

In article <Brp7Bn.GLB@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>water (they had a fireproof fuse) but they didn't go off, or went out 
                   ^^^^^^^^^

Uh.... waterproof! waterproof!



8-) 8-) 8-)

*sheepish grin*

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From: ahahma@polaris.utu.fi (Arno Hahma)
Subject: Re: Lighter Flints?
Organization: University of Turku
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 05:34:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.032521.2675@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:

>In article <1992Jul21.231617.22354@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 880518l@dragon.acadiau.ca (Nelson Langille) writes...

>>What are lighter flints made of?  I know that it burns nicely when you grind

>They are usually misch metal, which is a mix of the rare earth elements,
>mostly cerium.

Misch metal (sometimes called Cereisen in German) is an alloy of
cerium and iron, usually 50..60 % cerium and the rest iron.

>-Mike

ArNO
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From: stevek@providence (Steven Klitzing)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Greek Fire
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:05:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

What is "Greek Fire?"  This is something that the ancient greeks used to  
torch castles and fortifications?  I've heard it was the ancient world's  
version of napalm and that it had naptha or something in it?  Can anyone  
elaborate on this?
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: pyros
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:54:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman) writes:
: In article <1992Jul20.171303.5320@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: >
: >I doubt if you will find any.  The fireworks can only be sold during a
: >period of time around the 4th of July. On the reservation I went to, years
: >ago, they set off all they had left at about midnight on the 4th. It was
: >a spectacular, but rather hazardous, show.
: >
: Most of the Mom N' Pop stands are seasonal, but a few of the larger
: smoke shops sell fireworks year round.  Try the Thunderbird Trading Post
: at 72nd and Waller Road in Tacoma (206 531-9595).  Take the 72nd St
: exit from I-5 just south of Tacoma, go due east for about 4? miles.
: Fireworks are only legal to discharge from I believe June 29th through
: July 6th under Washington law, but most of the ones sold on the 
: reservations are illegal under state law anyway, so who cares.

Thanks for the update. It appears that Washington law is different than
I remembered.

Bill
From: calving@netcom.com (The Lindsay-Geyer Corp)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Real throwdowns - Be careful!
Keywords: explosives HMTD Throwdown
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:24:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

THAT'S CONTACT EXPOSIVE!!!!!

Please don't try this without proper training.

IT COULD BLOW UP IN YOUR FACE AS YOU HANDLE IT!	

Enjoy things that blow up, but please be careful; and before you build anything, PLEASE	be sure you know HOW and WHY it blows up.

Be safe and have fun,

Calvin G.
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From: rdm6670@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Gerb Experiment
Reply-To: rdm6670@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:14:49 GMT

Does anybody know any companies that sell cardboard tubes, fuses, and 
powders/chemicals?  I used to have a catalog (about 8 years ago), but
don't remember the names or addresses of any companies...

				Dennis
				  :)

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From: buda@star.enet.dec.com (Mark A. Buda)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Moving Fireworks?
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:53:39 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Jul28.171739.7022@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes...

>I think you have the insurance requirements too high - I seem to recall it
>being about $500,000 for interstate transport. I will try to remember to look
>it up. By the way, the figures I saw were the proposed insurance requirements.
>Are those in effect now or do others apply?

I actually think it is correct.  I remember thinking how outrageous it
was at the time, too.  Are these proposed, not sure.  Will ask around.

	- mark

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From: farb@ecr.mu.oz.au (William_Cuming FARROW)
Subject: Flash powder ....
Keywords: potasium chlorate sodium benzo-ate(i cant't spell)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:44:22 GMT

Flash powder   

potasium chlorate    (not sure how much)
sodium benzoate      (less than the KClO3)
sulfur               (just a tinsy little)

do it in small amounts !!!!!

I'm making bangers out of it ( prob like your m80)
But I cant compare it against anything , cause we 
cant buy anything out here. 
My one was 2 in long and the tubed was wraped around
a pen, it dished the bottom of the rubbish bin (metal)
and blew the lid to bits (plastic). not bad. but now 
I have to buy a new bin (argghhhh)!.

I don't know if any of you has tried this stuff
but give it a look and tell me how it went.

Billy Boy 
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From: cpbeaure@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Chris Beauregard)
Subject: Re: Real throwdowns - Be careful!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:48:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.193852.789@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>cpbeaure@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Beauregard) writes:
>: 
>: No shit?  It's only .5g of HMTD.  Shouldn't do much to your hand...
>
>Are you speaking from experience, Chris? If so, then it is a nice bit of
>knowledge to have. Otherwise, hopefully there are one or two others out
>there who have experienced such an explosion without harm. Arno, Petri?

Well, I've seen what small quantities of HMTD does.  I sure as hell
wouldn't hold on to it...It probably wouldn't take the hand right off,
but it certainly would puncture your hand with many tiny piece of
silicon shrapnel...

>Bill

Chris Beauregard                                cpbeaure@cayley.waterloo.edu
Differently Expressed:  The politically correct term for politically
correct people.
From: samw@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Gerb Experiment
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:09:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: bucket.samw.711698996
Organization: Rick's Home-Grown Un*x

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>I recently had a Class C fountain explode. That was the first time I have 
>ever had that happen to me. It was louder than a standard firecracker, but
>not as loud as an M-80. Totally blew me away - I didn't know the casings
>were strong enough for that to happen.

I've had a ground bloom do it -- small, whitish flash and LOUD report, and
that heavy casing just disappeared without a shred.  I suspect chlorate
powders are used that can detonate if conditions are right, maybe charge/
case separation from rough handling.  Those cautions to treat these things
as if they'll explode at any time aren't just for the lawyers!  ;-)
 
-- 
 
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From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Subject: Re: pyros
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:18:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.171303.5320@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>moon!cyberden!mettelus@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>: im going to washington stae real soon.  anyone tel me where i can pick up 
>: some fireworks? (reservations, etc?) are they legal there?
>
>I doubt if you will find any.  The fireworks can only be sold during a
>period of time around the 4th of July. On the reservation I went to, years
>ago, they set off all they had left at about midnight on the 4th. It was
>a spectacular, but rather hazardous, show.
>
Most of the Mom N' Pop stands are seasonal, but a few of the larger
smoke shops sell fireworks year round.  Try the Thunderbird Trading Post
at 72nd and Waller Road in Tacoma (206 531-9595).  Take the 72nd St
exit from I-5 just south of Tacoma, go due east for about 4? miles.
Fireworks are only legal to discharge from I believe June 29th through
July 6th under Washington law, but most of the ones sold on the 
reservations are illegal under state law anyway, so who cares.

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From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Bon Fires
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:21:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: bb1t.1992Jul22.152115.4306
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <memo.532400@cix.compulink.co.uk>, dingbat@cix.compulink.co.uk (Codesmiths) writes:

> A few years ago, there was a ring of scrap metal thieves in
> Liverpool, stealing aluminium beer kegs & melting them down. Everyone
> knew that they were operating, but no-one knew where.
> 
> These kegs are pressurised, and one day they dropped one into the
> melter without de-pressurising it first. It took the roof of the
> building, threw molten aluminium around, and AFAIR a couple of them
> were killed.

On this side of the Pond, they steal aluminium rails off highway bridges
and sell 'em for scrap.  They even steal the aluminium siding off 
houses!

  TED FEUERBACH   Scientific Systems Consultant  Trilogy Consulting, Inc. 
  Lake St. Louis, MO        (314) 537-6603       tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
  Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed herein are MY OWN and obviously not
  the opinions of Trilogy, Monsanto or either of my two ex-wives.
From: buda@star.enet.dec.com (Mark A. Buda)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Moving Fireworks?
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:04:13 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <17360007@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, rjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Schneider) writes...
> 
>	Is there any legal way to ship class B fireworks? I would like to
>	move some class B firecrackers from Syracuse, NY to Fort Collins
>	Colorado without having to drive back there to get them. I
>	haven't called the air lines, but, I suspect that they wouldn't
>	accept explosives on board.

To ship Class B...  Do you want to do this legally?

Fed Ex will do it for a small fee.  Of course you must deliver and pickup
the material from their docks.  There are only a small number of docks (Fed Ex)
that will allow B material to be serviced.

To deliver, you must have a CDL with Hazmat, a medical certificate, a placarded
vehical with bill of ladings etc.  I expect you will need to show a permit
and/or a Fed permit to ship.  You will also need insurance on your vehicle
for $5mil, if I remember correctly.

Once you pick up the material, you must store it in a magazine or use it.

	- mark

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Bon Fires
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:11:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.152115.4306@bb1t.monsanto.com| tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
|In article <memo.532400@cix.compulink.co.uk|, dingbat@cix.compulink.co.uk (Codesmiths) writes:
|
|| A few years ago, there was a ring of scrap metal thieves in
|| Liverpool, stealing aluminium beer kegs & melting them down. Everyone
|| knew that they were operating, but no-one knew where.

|On this side of the Pond, they steal aluminium rails off highway bridges
|and sell 'em for scrap.  They even steal the aluminium siding off 
|houses!


Some time ago there was a feature on 60 minutes about people 
stealing aluminum. This was back when aluminum was up at $1
a pound or so...

Notable examples of stuff getting stolen was guard rails off
highways and street light poles. Someone even stole a nose cone
off NASA property. Good thing they didn't take chainsaws to 
airplane wings etc....





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From: brech@vision.ethz.ch (Christian Brechbuehler)
Subject: Re: Flash powder ....
Keywords: potasium chlorate sodium benzo-ate(i cant't spell)
Organization: Institute for Communication Technology, ETH Zuerich
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:51:13 GMT

In article <j6fm2r-.mcaldwel@netcom.com>,
	mcaldwel@netcom.com (Michael Caldwell) writes:

|> Use potassium perchlorate (KClO4) and Aluminum (Al) powder pyro grade and
|> you'll get the biggest brightest bang I ever saw.

Yes, that's "real" flash powder. Shimizu claims that you get more noise 
with the addition of some sulfur (S). I'll have to look the ratio up. My 
dim memory says 64% KClO4, 23% Al, 13% S (by mass). Note that this 
mixture is more friction sesitive than 3 KClO4 + 8 Al (mole ratio).

|> the equation would be 3 KClO4 + 8 Al => 4 Al2O3 + 3 KCl.

That's correct. Cl goes from oxidation number +7 to -1, taking 8 electrons.
Al goes from 0 to +3, giving away 3 electrons.

|> 4.16g of potassium perchlorate and 2.16g of aluminum, by mass.

Correct. In Mathematica, type
	In[4]:= {{3,3,12,0},{0,0,0,8}}.AtomicWeight/@{K,Cl,O,Al}
to get
	Out[4]= {415.647, 215.852}


|> If aluminum is about 2 times as dense as potassium perchlorate

My Al is a very light, loose powder. It is much _less_ dense than KClO4.

|> then it would be 1 to 1 by volume.

Volume ratios are very imprecise. It depends so much on the products
you are using.

It is not hard to build a simple balance. I took a used flat straingt 
Al tube, about 50cm long and 1 cm wide and hung it up on sewing thread 
in the middle. I cut two disks of about 12 cm diameter from corrugated 
paper and hung them to the ends of the tube with the same thread. It is important that the points where the disks are fixed are exactly sym-
metrical to the point the bar / tube is suspended. This balance indi-
cates mass differences of 10 to 20 mg between the loads on the discs. 
It has been very useful for small scale pyrotechnic tests (never mix 
more than 1 or 2g of a new composition for testing, says Conkling).



	Christian Brechbuehler
	
	Communication Technology Lab, Image Science Group
	Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) Zurich, Switzerland
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Moving Fireworks?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:32:09 GMT

buda@star.enet.dec.com (Mark A. Buda) writes:

: >I think you have the insurance requirements too high - I seem to recall it
: >being about $500,000 for interstate transport. I will try to remember to look
: >it up. By the way, the figures I saw were the proposed insurance requirements.
: >Are those in effect now or do others apply?
: 
: I actually think it is correct.  I remember thinking how outrageous it
: was at the time, too.  Are these proposed, not sure.  Will ask around.

Yeah - I posted a correction. 

Bill
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From: cpbeaure@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Beauregard)
Subject: Re: Real throwdowns - Be careful!
Keywords: explosives HMTD Throwdown
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:05:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.044558.6803@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> nspiney@nyx.cs.du.edu (Norman Spiney) writes:
>
>the dangerous part. You must twist the end of the  paper together which
>will leave a bulb of explosive mixture; SO BE CAREFUL AND DONT TWIST TOO
>TIGHT. This is the completed throwdown. Safety: Hold it by the end, NOT

What about using aluminum foil for this part.  Much easier to shape, and
it probably wouldn't require nearly as much force as paper.  Or perhaps
toilet paper, or just tape the thing together.

>Do not handle it roughly!

No shit?  It's only .5g of HMTD.  Shouldn't do much to your hand...

>-play safe: live long (with all your fingers)
>                                                   -Jimbo  

Chris Beauregard                                cpbeaure@cayley.waterloo.edu
Differently Expressed:  The politically correct term for politically
correct people.
From: brg2x@honi1.acc.Virginia.EDU (Barry Richard Gribble)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: thermite ignition
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:48:42 GMT
Reply-To: brg2x@honi1.acc.Virginia.EDU (Barry Richard Gribble)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia


	A good friend of mine claims that he made thermite that
had sulfur mixed in and the result was a match-lightable thermite.

	I don't have the ratios or first-hand confirmation, but
I do believe it.  Has anyone else tried this?

					BG
From: rjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Schneider)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:50:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Flash powder ....
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics

brech@vision.ethz.ch (Christian Brechbuehler) writes:

>Yes, that's "real" flash powder. Shimizu claims that you get more noise 
>with the addition of some sulfur (S). I'll have to look the ratio up. My 
>dim memory says 64% KClO4, 23% Al, 13% S (by mass). Note that this 
>mixture is more friction sesitive than 3 KClO4 + 8 Al (mole ratio).

	This looks real close to the formula posted in Abbie Hoffman's
	"Steal this Book" from back in the 60's. My dim memory tells me 6
	parts Salt Peter, 3 parts Aluminum powder, 2 parts Sulfur (or was
	that 3 parts Sulfur and 2 parts Aluminum powder?). It worked
	really well.

	I always hated dealing with the Aluminum powder. It was so fine,
	it would go through anything. I would get small amounts on my
	arms right through my shirt. Even though I used a painters mask,
	I would still feel it on my throat.

	I always wondered how stable this stuff was. I never had any
	accidents, but, every time I mixed it, the stability question
	sure crossed my mind.

Bob Schneider     rjs@fc.hp.com
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From: pierson@cimill.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Subject: Re: Flash powder ....
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 29 JUL 92 08:47:39    

In article <17360009@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, rjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Schneider)
writes, in part:

>	This looks real close to the formula posted in Abbie Hoffman's
>	"Steal this Book" from back in the 60's. My dim memory tells me 6
>	parts Salt Peter, 3 parts Aluminum powder, 2 parts Sulfur (or was
>	that 3 parts Sulfur and 2 parts Aluminum powder?). It worked
>	really well.

>	I always hated dealing with the Aluminum powder. It was so fine,
>	it would go through anything. I would get small amounts on my
>	arms right through my shirt. Even though I used a painters mask,
>	I would still feel it on my throat.
>	I always wondered how stable this stuff was. I never had any
>	accidents, but, every time I mixed it, the stability question
>	sure crossed my mind.

	Technically speaking, the "stability" isn't bad, once completed.  The
	"sensitivity" (to ignition/detonation), however, is among the highest
	of commonly used materials.  Ellern, in Pyrotechnics, Military and
	Civilian, refers to working woth flash (for military photoflash
	cartridges...) as THE most dangerous operation in military explosives
	manufacture.  The fineness of the AL powder is a problem in any case,
	as this adds to the sensitivity.

thanks
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Gerb Experiment
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:51:13 GMT

rdm6670@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
: Does anybody know any companies that sell cardboard tubes, fuses, and 
: powders/chemicals?  I used to have a catalog (about 8 years ago), but
: don't remember the names or addresses of any companies...

There are several. Firefox and KSI both carry such items. I do not
know Firefox's policy, but KSI only sells to PGI members, those who
are engaged in the commercial manufacture of fireworks and schools.

I do not have the addresses handy but could probably find them if I   
looked long enough.

Bill
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From: nspiney@nyx.cs.du.edu (Norman Spiney)
Subject: Real throwdowns - Be careful!
Summary: How to make a very loud bang with minimal impact to the
Keywords: explosives HMTD Throwdown
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 04:45:58 GMT


The best way to make a very loud bang which is reasonably safe is to make
a throwdown. These require very few ingredients listed as follows:

  1) HMTD -Hexamethylenetriamine Peroxide.  !CAUTION this substance is
                                             primary hi-explosive. DO NOT
                                             ATTEMPT TO USE A SUBSTITUTE!
  2) Course sand or VERY fine gravel
  3) 3inX3in square of paper

Fold the paper across the diagonals to establish the centre. Place a smal

amount of sand (approx 1gm) in the centre. Add 1/2gm of HMTD to the sand 

and then pinch the sides of the paper together. This has the effect of
containing the mixture and mixing the ingredients sufficiently. Now here 
s
the dangerous part. You must twist the end of the  paper together which
will leave a bulb of explosive mixture; SO BE CAREFUL AND DONT TWIST TOO
TIGHT. This is the completed throwdown. Safety: Hold it by the end, NOT
the bulb. Don't put it in your pocket. Do not store this device. Keep it
away from any heat source as HMTD is extremely flammable and or explosive

Do not handle it roughly!
Make SURE you have used sand less than 1mm in diameter as larger grains
may become dangerous shrapnel.
DO NOT THROW IT AT ANYONE!!!! 
Throw at least 2metres away from you.

I have made many of these devices and have had great fun. They are
loud..VERY LOUD ..So loud infact that I stopped making them when an
enhanced model activated a building alarm so be warned.

One last note HMTD is the safest primary that I know how to make. In smal

amounts it does not explode if unconfined   as PbN3 does, so use no
substitute unless you are well aware of its properties

-play safe: live long (with all your fingers)
                                                   -Jimbo  



From: rjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Schneider)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:46:56 GMT
Subject: Moving Fireworks?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics


	Is there any legal way to ship class B fireworks? I would like to
	move some class B firecrackers from Syracuse, NY to Fort Collins
	Colorado without having to drive back there to get them. I
	haven't called the air lines, but, I suspect that they wouldn't
	accept explosives on board.

	Thanks in advance.

Bob Schneider     rjs@fc.hp.com
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