HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pestrada@koh-sun4.usc.edu (Paul Ruben Estrada)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: El Comentario de Paul
Date: 1 Oct 1992 18:48:30 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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In article <9209301244.AA41931@cpuserver.acsc.com> J. F. Fritz Schwaller <SCHWALLR@ACC.FAU.EDU> writes:
>
>    Muy estimado Paul, y los otros colegas de la red,
>
>    Lamento decirte que los datos que has aportado a la discusion del
>    asunto de las calidades mexica-aztecas sufren de varios errores.
>    Si aceptamos la poblacion indigena de la zona central de Mexico,
>    entre el Bajio el norte al istmo de Tehuantepec al sur estaba en
>    unos 25 milliones, efectivamente el 4% de esto estaba en el Valle
>    de Mexico, y bajo el dominio directo de los aztecas.  Pero el
>    "imperio" de los aztecas llego a incluir alrededor de 75% de esta
>    


Yes, effectively, 4% of the population was in the Valley of Mexico,

where the Aztecs resided.  Thanks for your corroboration.  

So what if the Aztecs dominated 75% of the region, this doesn't

mean squat!  We in the US dominate most of the WORLD, but this

doesn`t mean that Chinese are eating cheeseburgers.






 grupos culturales dentro
>    de esta zona, como los Tlaxcaltecas, Huaxtecas, y otros
>    compartieron con los aztecas el sacrificio humano.  Por esto la
>    comparacion que hiciste francamente no tiene base en los datos.
>

"Compartieron is a very general term, isn`t it?


bye,

Paul E.   No Apologies offered 8-l
From: RUSH.M.E@FS.COMMERCE.WLU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: Apostille
Date: 5 Oct 1992 12:37:13 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: <RUSH.M.E@FS.COMMERCE.WLU.EDU>
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what's an apostille??

Mark Rush
From: slwsg@cc.usu.edu (Enrique Playan Jubillar. Utah State University)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Racismo y mexicanismo OCT. 12 VIVA LA PILARICA
Date: 4 Oct 92 09:18:20 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Oct4.103017.14687@dxcern.cern.ch>, nilo@atdigarfield.cern.ch (Nilo Segura) writes:
> 
> 
> In article 10948@sol.ctr.columbia.edu, yjossa@mathlab.sunysb.edu (yuri jossa) writes:
>>
>>Cuanto de uds. espa~noles celebran el 12 de octubre?
>>

Pues es dificil de decir, pero por lo menos, el millon y medio de Aragoneses
que celebramos la Virgen del Pilar ese dia...


Hala Ma~icos!

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             IN%"slwsg@cc.usu.edu". Viva Monzon y viva la RENFE!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: dsgarcia@fishlab11 (Daniel S. Garcia)
Subject: que pasa con los resultados de futbol
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:21:01 GMT

Que pasa que nadie manda los resultados de la liga espan~ola?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: jcarmona@diana.cair.du.edu (JUAN J. CARMONA)
Subject: Si volviera
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:11:32 GMT

 

                           SI VOLVIERA


          Si pudiera estar de nuevo en tus calles, ay Madrid!
          Si pudiera estar de nuevo para verte a t a la lid
          Si tuviera yo tu lluvia y tu msica vital
          Si estuviera entre tus gentes y sus sonrrisas de cristal
          Si sintiera la grandeza de tu gloria al caminar
          Si sintiera esos vinillos y esos versos sin final

          Si pudiese yo palparte con mi alma una vez mas
          Te dira en el odo a que le llamo libertad

          Si tuviera yo un minuto sobre el cielo de Madrid
          Soltara lagrimillas de alegra, mas de mil!
          Si escuchara las caricias de tu acento al despertar
          Si escuchara yo el ceceo de los pajaros que van
          Si me viera embadurnado en tu cultura sin igual
          Si me viera en tus museos, en tu villa, en tu Real

          Si pudiese yo palparte con mi alma una vez mas
          Te dira en el odo la palabra libertad

          Quien sintiera el apogeo de la vuelta, al fin vivir! 
          Quien pudiera los latidos de tus besos conseguir
          Si pudiera acariciarte con mi cuerpo una vez mas
          Morira de alegra entre tus brazos sin parar
          Si pudiera yo palparte con mi alma de verdad
          Sentira que mis sueos se han tornado en realidad

          Si volviere yo algn da a Madrid, a mi ciudad
          Sentira que an despierto existen sueos sin final


                          Juanjo Karmona-Serradilla, Septiembre 92
From: jg+@CS.CMU.EDU (Jose Manuel Goyeneche)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Fagor y tal y tal
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:07:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BvG1sz.7Gp.2
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University


Sr. Pilum:
	ante su evidente desconocimiento de los acronimos, me permito revelarle que se esconde tras el nombre F.A.G.O.R.

      F : Forca
      A : a los Aztecas
      G : que matan Gachupines
      O : y tocan en Orquestas
      R : de historiadores Romanos.

Josecho
Acronimista sin Coraza
From: sanchez@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (TO THE SWORD AND THE COMPASS, MORE & MORE LAND...")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Ref: linguas e intolerancia
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:25:02 EST

In article <Buz1pD.Ly5@wm.estec.esa.nl>, jruiz@wm.estec.esa.nl (Jose Ruiz -Student-) writes:
> In article gejUhIO00Uh7E53Xgs@andrew.cmu.edu, Moises Carrasco-Forcada <mc7s+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>>Tienes razon, el que quiera aprender catalan, gallego, vasco, ingles
>>frances o lo que sea que se lo pague el mismo. Que no hay tanta gente
>>que necesite el igles em su trabajo. No creo que las lenguas extranjeras
>>tengan que ser ensenadas a todos con dinero publico.
>>
>> ...
>> ...
>>
>>De todos modos, lo dicho, el que quiera aprender aleman, que se lo pague el!!
> 
> Eso es lo que sucede actualmente. El que quiere aprender un idioma tiene que pagarselo, porque desafortunadamente el sistema de ense~anza no deja otra salida.
> Asi afrontamos la competencia en Europa, con la fama de ser los que peor se desenvuelven en ingles. Como muestra un boton:
> Ayer entro la secretaria de mi departamento en el la sala de ordenadores y me pregunto: 
> -Tu eres espa~ol, verdad? Te importaria ayudarme? Hay alguien al telefono ...he intentado hablarle en ingles, frances y aleman pero no me comprende...
> Cuando me puse al telefono preguntando (en espa~ol) que es lo que queria, me respondieron:
> -Podria hablar con el se~or Finn? LLamo de aqui de X (no me acuerdo del nombre de la empresa) por lo del satelite... 
> 
> 
> Si esta es la competitividad de la incipiente industria aeroespacial espa~ola...apaga y vamonos!!!
> 
> Jose Luis.
-------------------------------

?No crees que ese es el mismo caso(aunque peor) de los estadounidenses en
este pai's?

Rafael O. S. Lamoso

Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett")
Subject: Re: RAID 7 Sistemas Ahora en Espana
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:56:54 EST

Regarding John Scoggin's request for information on RAID systems for
VINES, Storage Computer of Nashua, N.H. is currently showing its new high
performance RAID 7 disk array platforms at the September International VINES
User Meeting.  SCSI-based, they work equally well with NetWare, workstations,
IBM systems, VAXes, etc.  I found out that Storage Computer has just opened
up its new European headquarters in Frankfurt.  The telephone there is
(49) 6917-2145.  The FAX is (49) 6917-2149.  They are handling their Spain
operations out of Frankfurt at the moment, so it is not necessary to
call Storage Computer headquarters in the U.S.

Standards-based, RAID 7 is designed for enterprise-wide computing and
overcomes performance limitations of earlier RAID architectures, providing
a  "real world sustained application performance improvement of 200% to
400%" and dropping the cost of storage to 16 cents/MB.  Their brochures
say they can "mix and match" up to 48 SCSI commodity (3.5 or 5.25 inch)
drives, up to 150 GB.  The RAID 7 disk array platforms come with an embedded
operating system and up to 12 SCSI-2 based host interfaces.  Besides servers,
Storage Computer's RAID 7 disk array platforms can connect to workstations
and midrange systems in addition to IBM's.  Multiple CPUs can be attached to
same disk array platform.

The RAID 7 platforms come with up to 256 MB of cache, eliminating any
reason for using performance-damaging CPU main memory disk RAM.  The
drives are "hot plugable" for uninterrupted, transparent operation,
with a hot standby drive automatically replacing a failed drive.

There was a lot of activity this week at the Storage Computer RAID 7 booth
at the Boston Banyan show as I walked by.  They were demoing what happens if
a drive goes down, showing the backup drive taking over.

For further information on Storage Computer's RAID 7 for any system, their
key US contact is indicated to be John O'Brien, Director of Technical
Services at Tel. 603-880-3005 or FAX 603-889-7232.  John is the original

"guru" of the RAID 7 advances, and a well-known RAID industry figure.

Cheers! ------- Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
From: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Racismo y mexicanismo
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:38:12 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Bueno, pues acabo de leer un articulo de un tal Paul Ruben Estrada que no me ha hecho ninguna gracia. Pues mira, Paul los espanoles no somos ni unos incultos,  ni unos arrogantes ni ignorantes, etc. Ademas para que co~nos escribes en inglespara que todo el mundo pueda leer tu mensaje no? Oye, si le tienes tanto odio a los espanoles para que narices lees esta seccion? Y mira, no nos trates de sal- vajes porque vosotros, los aztecas matabais a miles de personas en honor al Sol sacandoles el corazon. Dime tu 




si eso no es ser salvaje. Si tu pais va como va, no es po culpa nuestra vale? Es porque teneis un gobierno de mierda que no apoyamas que a la burguesia mejicana y que no hace nada por levantar el pais. Si     hay que culpar a alguien pues culpemos a los estadounidenses que no hacen mas   que chupar de todos los paises impotentes que se les pongan en sus narices. 
Nosotros no tenemos ya culpa de nada vale? Hace ya 500 anos que todo eso paso   (o bueno 200 o los que sean). Yo se que los conquistadores hicieron cosas que notenian que haber hecho pero ya que quieres que le haga?
Bueno eso es todo.

Erik.


P.S.: Si te sientes tan indentificado con la cultura Azteca por que no buscas la      traduccion azteca a ""Paul"" Pablo?
-- 
Erik Campo campoe@JSP.UMontreal.Ca -- "Between the velvet lies
                                       There's a truth that's made of steel
                                       The vision never dies
                                       Life's a never ending wheel" R.J.Dio 1983
From: serrano@ATHENA.BERKELEY.EDU (Paco Garcia-Serrano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: Racismo y mexicanismo
Date: 29 Sep 1992 23:34:33 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Paco Garcia-Serrano <serrano@ATHENA.BERKELEY.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Paul E. writes:
 >I still think taht Spaniards are ninnys.

Paul, here you are making the mistake of generalization which makes you the
ninny. Remember, there are 40 million Spaniards and all of them are not the
 same, think the same and act the same. By posting such a ridiculous message
 you are going to get the ^flames^ from many.
Paco Garcia-Serrano
From: RMT@HEP.DURHAM.AC.UK (Ramon.Munoz.Tapia@acsc.com, tel +44 91 3743803)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: (none)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 04:57:09 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Ramon.Munoz.Tapia@acsc.com,
        tel +44 91 3743803 <RMT@HEP.DURHAM.AC.UK>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Alguien sabe la forma mas barata de
volar desde Inglaterra a Barcelona?
Para Navidad como el almendro
naturalmente.
Ramon
From: rcr@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Ricardo Corretjer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: REVISTA INFORMATICA Y AUTOMATICA
Date: 4 Oct 92 06:00:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


   Me gustaria recibir la revista.  Mi direccion es:


	Ricardo Corretjer
	1238 Fowler Ct. #5
	West Lafayette, IN 47907
	UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

   Gracias.






VIVA ESPA~A! VIVA CATALU~A! VIVA BARCELONA!
From: U17801%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Renato Barahona)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: not-so-minority languages in Spain
Date: 5 Oct 1992 12:01:05 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Renato Barahona <U17801%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:21:51 GMT <ronkko@CC.HELSINKI.FI> said:
 >
 >I wonder how much material there is available nowadays if one wants to learn
 >Basque? (Basque <-> English textbooks, dictionaries, casettes etc.). If
 >anyone happens to have an up-to-date list of books etc. (Including ISBN
 >numbers)
 >in electric form, I would be most grateful to get it :-).
 >
 >BTW, are Basque people also 'genetically' unique group, or is this more a
 >cultural/lanquage group? (I am sorry if this is a stupid question, but it is
 >not easy to find even basic information about the subject in Finland - so far
 >I have been able to track only one person at our University knowing something
 >about Basques :-)

_______________

Reijo:
      Perhaps the following will help you get started:

      __Eusko-Bibliographia__ C. Cuerpo & J. Bilbao, eds. (San Sebastian, 1960-
1975).  Multi-volume work with extensive bibliographical references on many of
the questions you ask.

      Julio Caro Baroja, __Los vascos__ (revised editions preferable)

      Roger Collins, __The Basques__ (Blackwell, 1986)

      Marianne Freiberg, __The Making of the Basque Nation__ (Cambridge, 1989)

      William Douglass, ed., __Essays in Basque Social Anthropolgy and History_
_  (U. Of Nevada Press/Basque Studies Program, 1989).


      Should you wish additional information, get in touch with me directly.

      Renato Barahona
      Department of History
      University of Illinois at Chicago
      u17801@UICVM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: jeice@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au (Jose Goicoechea)
Subject: Re: not-so-minority languages in Spain
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:41:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.012151.1@cc.helsinki.fi> ronkko@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.093106.59414@cc.usu.edu>, slwsg@cc.usu.edu 
>(Enrique Playan Jubillar. Utah State University) writes:
>BTW, are Basque people also 'genetically' unique group, or is this more a 
>cultural/lanquage group? (I am sorry if this is a stupid question, but it is 
>not easy to find even basic information about the subject in Finland - so far 
>I have been able to track only one person at our University knowing something 
>about Basques :-) 
> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         Enrique Playan Jubillar. P. O. Box 1277. Logan, UT 84322. USA
>>       Biological and Irrigation Engineering Dept. Utah State University
>>              IN%"slwsg@cc.usu.edu". Viva Monzon y viva la RENFE!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Reijo Ronkko     University of Helsinki, Dept. of General Microbiology,
>                   Mannerheimintie 172, 00300 Helsinki, FINLAND
>                   Fax +358-0-4735426     Ronkko@cc.helsinki.fi
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From  what I understand, apparently Basque people have rare blood type.
I know this from Mother because of problems of being able to access 
this blood type for a blood transfusion.
This has not just applied to my mother but to others in my family.

Urun arte
jose



































~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jose Goikoetxea 	 ### TECNOFORCE ###        jeice@newt.phys.edu.au
 			~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~       
		       The Wave Of The Future!!
From: lcornel@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU (Louis Cornelio)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: Mondragon
Date: 30 Sep 1992 21:26:34 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Louis Cornelio <lcornel@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Mondragon?  Orcestra Mondragon? : "Besame, Tonto"  ;)

luisito
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: af241@yfn.ysu.edu (Borja Toron Antons)
Subject: Resulytados de la liga ACB. Tercera jornada.
Reply-To: af241@yfn.ysu.edu (Borja Toron Antons)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:26:34 GMT


Aqui van los resultado s de la liga ACB que publica hoy El Pais: 

Unicaja Malaga 78 - Estudiantes 92
Barcelona 92 - Argal Huesca 86
Forum 75 - Caja San Fernado 93
Orense 69 - Elosua 83
Breogan 67 - Zaragoza 83
Taugres 101 - Juver 66
Andorra 56 - Ferrol 68

El resto, ma#ana, ... si PRISA quiere :). Las clasificaciones, intentare 
buscar las de la segunda jornada.

Chaludos!

Borja
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From: jg+@CS.CMU.EDU (Jose Manuel Goyeneche)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Fagor y tal y tal
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:00:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BvHw5G.B27.2
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

>  Y yo pense' que FAGOR era una incecticida.  No es asi?
>
>Erik Werner Blanco
>V067NJBX@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
 
No hombre! Eso es Baygon. Fagor fabrica curas vascos a partir de franquistas. Los mejores y mas fiables (como Ardanza...)

Josecho.
From: rhay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Robert Hay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Mondragon
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:29:00 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I was wondering if anyone knew of Mondragon Co-operative in Spain? 

They had planned in the Mid 1980's to expand into Canada and the.S.A.  I 
was wondering where they expanded too.  I am setting up a Research and 
Development Co-operative Cny here in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and I 
would like information concerning what if any Joint Venture programs they 
are looking towards doing.  It would be nice just to find their 
subsiduary's here in North America.  I have contacted Mondragon but yet 
have not received a return fax from them.  I appreciate anyone dropping 
me a note on where they are here in North America.

P.S.
I believe it was the Fagor Co-operative that was considering to expand 
here in North America.  Let me know thanks!

Robert Hay              rhay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Apologies re: InterMeta course
Date: 28 Sep 1992 18:44:07 -0500
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: <gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY !
It is with regret that I perform this task. Dr. Gelson V. Gomes. a
professor of the University of Parana, Brazil, has exceeded this
privileges and announced a eletronic course:

 > ____________________________________________________________
 >        Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
 >                      The InterMeta Course
 > ____________________________________________________________

I must apologize for this flagrant breach of network etiquette. Please
be aware that Dr. Gelson had no right to do so, since this is against
the rules of our ANSP network, and also against the Bitnet rules.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY!
I will not discuss what his motivations were. But his account has been
revoked, and there will be no such course through my network.

Please write by normal mail, to:
-> Gelson V. Gomes
-> 358, R. Alvaro Andrade - ap.1201
-> Curitiba PR BRAZIL 80610-240
to get more information on his objectives. He may want to give the
course by normal mail.  :-)

With regards,
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From: ichpc@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Pedro de Oleiros)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Futbol:jornada #4
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:58:35 GMT
Reply-To: ichpc@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Pedro de Oleiros)
Organization: Montana State University

In article <1992Sep28.165517.18784@wam.umd.edu>, luigi@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Luis G. Torregrosa) writes:
>
>	Para aquellos que este'n desesperados por los resultados y no  
>puedan esperar a los verdaderos y vicharacheros reporteros, aqui' va muy  
>esquema'ticamente lo que paso' esta semana.
>
>Ca'diz-At.Madrid       1-1
>Oviedo-Espa#ol         2-2
>R. Vallecano-Zaragoza  0-0
>Celta-Ath. Bilbao      1-0
>Sevilla-Logro#es       3-0
>Osasuna-Valencia       2-2
>R. Sociedad-Coru#a     0-2
>R. Madrid-Albacete     3-0
>Barcelona-Burgos       4-1
>Tenerife-Gijo'n        0-2  (!!Me cago en todas las @#$% !! Si no fuera    
>				porque este verano me enamore' de 	 
>				Gijo'n...)
>
>La clasificacio'n queda de la siguiente forma:
>
> EQUIPO			Puntos	GF	GC	Diff.	Pos/Neg
>  1.(1)  Dep. Coru#a	8	9	2	+7	+4
>  2.(2)  Barcelona	7	11	4	+7	+3      
>  3.(6)  Sp. Gijo'n 	6	4	1	+3	+2
>  4.(3)  Zaragoza	6	4	2	+2	+2
>  5.(9)  R. Madrid	5	7	2	+5	+1
>  6.(12) Sevilla	5	9	7	+2	+1
>  7.(5)  Valencia	5	5	4	+1	+1
>  8.(7)  Atl. Madrid	5	8	8	0	+1
>  9.(13) Celta		5	2	2	0	+1
> 10.(9)  Osasuna	4	6	4	+2	0
> 11.(4)  Ath. Bilbao	4	5	4	+1	0
> 12.(11) Ca'diz		4	4	4	0	0
> 13.(8)  Tenerife	3	6	6	0	-1
> 14.(14) Oviedo		3	3	4	-1	-1
> 15.(15) Rayo Vallecano	3	5	7	-2	-1
> 16.(17) Logro#es	2	2	6	-4	-2
> 17.(18) Burgos		2	5	10	-5	-2
> 18.(16) R. Sociedad	2	3	9	-6	-2
> 19.(19) Espa#ol	1	5	9	-4	-3
> 20.(20) Albacete	0	4	12	-8	-4
> 
>
>	 Los gallegos siguen cepilla'ndose a todo el que se le pone por  
>delante. 

	Jo*er!!, tres semanas seguidas de lideres!! Esto si que no me lo puedo 
creer, a pesar de que Perico nos venia avisando desde hace unas semanas de que
al Super-Depor no lo paraba nadie.

	Si', si', ya se que es un poco pronto para echar las campanas al vuelo,
pero es que si no las echo ahora, mucho me temo que luego no las voy a poder
echar,  :-)

	Un saludo al personal y...


			FORZA DEPOR !!

	Pedro                  |   Non des a esquencemento
			       |   Da inxuria o rudo encono,
			       |   Desperta do teu sono,
			       |   Fogar de Breogan.

	ichpcpm@earth.oscs.montana.edu
	ichpcpm@trex.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ylchang@mtu.edu (CHANG)
Subject: test
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:58:57 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: cive1em@jane.uh.edu (Chuang, Lu-chia)
Subject: Looking for Macintosh Chinese System
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:41:00 GMT

Hello, I am looking for a Chinese system (or Fonts) on Macintosh.
Any information is welcome. Thanks in advance.

-Luke

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: khchan@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (chan ka hei)
Subject: Books avaliable in TW book stores?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:18:57 GMT

 Hello everybody,

   I would like to know if the following two books are avaliable
 in book stores of Taiwan:

  1) Fundamentals of Photonics , by Saleh and Teich, Wiley
  2) Fiber optics Technology and Application, by S.D.Personick, Plenum

   It will be more welcome if the price and the book store name and
address can be quoted.

 Thanks in advance.

 Best Regards.
 Frank Chan (khchan@eng.ie.cuhk.hk)