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From: soberg@think.com (Stephanie Oberg)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Pappa Razi in Concord
Date: 10 Sep 1992 16:13:58 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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In article <7193@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>
>Speaking of Italian Restaurants, well.... sort of,
>I had very mixed experience last Friday night at
>the new Pappa Razi in Concord...

     [description of poor service deleted]

     We were there about a week ago.  I agree that the food is excellent.
     I had some incredible lobster-stuffed ravioli in a rich cream lobster
     sauce that was vibrantly flavorful and savory.  We also experienced
     inept service, but in our case there was no rudeness or delays, so
     overall we were satisfied.  (As an example of inept service, our
     entrees were first offered to the table next to us.  Then the waiter
     - who seemed almost a young boy and not an adult - responded to our 
     cries and stood near us with plates held high.  Our places were
     occupied with appetizer plates and it seemed for a moment we would
     have a standoff - the waiter with his hands full and nowhere to put
     the plates.  In a nicer restaurant I do expect the plates to be
     cleared by the staff.)

     As you note, Concord is eatery-poor.  Even the Brigham's often has
     a line waiting.
  
   



-- 

sojourner
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From: afn@world.std.com (Alan F Nugent)
Subject: Re: Good Pizza
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:53:36 GMT

In article <Bu2w1q.5zA@world.std.com> szs@world.std.com (Stephen Z Stein) writes:
>As a pizza lover and an expatriot New Jersey-ite, I can't resist this
>thread!
>
>I've never even heard of the Bluestone Bistro, but I'll certainly try it.
>New York style I was used to in NJ.  IMHO, New Haven (Pepe's and Sally's)
>is the best pizza on earth, but it's just a bit far to travel for dinner.

As a native New Havener, I couldn't agree more. Pepe's and Sally's certainly
get the most attention, but there are a dozen other Pizzerias in the greater
New Haven area that deserve just as much reverence. If you're down there try:
Alfano's in Morris Cove, East Haven, near Tweed New Haven Airport. I often
fly my kids down there for lunch, since you can walk from the airport. In 
Hamden try Bimonte's Pizza Castle. In New Haven there is the Modern, Palm
Beach, and Ernie's (Westville).

I could wax on about this, but it just makes me hungry. Think I'll fire up the
plane and get a Sally's white pie to go!!!!

Al..

Alan F. Nugent			Voice: (508) 371-9885
Soft Machine, Inc.		Fax/Computer: (508) 371-9886
P.O. Box 669
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From: rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers)
Subject: Re: Johnny Rocket's
Organization: HICAM/OSD
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:46:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.150455.26819@odi.com> ed@odi.com (Ed Schwalenberg) writes:
>...The decor, while worth seeing, is a 90's implemention of
>the 50's; only someone who'd never been in a real 50's diner would be fooled.

I flamed about this a couple months ago, so forgive me if it sounds familiar...

The 90's attempts at 50's-retro are easy enough to ignore completely - what
really annoys me is when authentic 50's places start to get self-consciously
cutesy about it!  For example, there's Charlie's (the Cheeseburger King, with
extra credit for the crown on the 'K') on Eliot St. near Harvard Square; a few
years ago they went for the neo-retro look and installed all these pseudo-50's 
neon signs.  Why?  And what's next - will the Willow Pond Kitchen replace their
cracked, faded Schlitz sign with a modern reproduction - maybe pink and
turquoise and shaped like a tailfin?

AWR


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From: grady@world.std.com (Dick Grady)
Subject: Looking for Polish Grocery Stores
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:44:27 GMT

I'm looking for a grocery store which sells ethnic Polish foods,
such as kielbasa sausage (the authentic old-world type, not the
Americanized version sold in the typical supermarket).
I live along the Mass/NH border, so anywhere in Southern NH or
Eastern Mass is OK.

-- 
            Dick Grady               grady@world.std.com
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Pappa Razi in Concord
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:51:17 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

=> In article <7193@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill 
=> Lambert) writes:
=> 
=> [ Discussion of abominable service at Pappa Razzi which about echoes my 
=> experience ]
=> 
=> > The manager of Pappa Razzi should go up Rt. 2a about 2 miles and
=> > have dinner at Pasta Villagio in Acton, where the owner greets
=> > you at the door, and the wait staff is exteremely attentive and
=> > well-trained. This place.... relatively inexpensive, but lacking
=> > the glitz and gimmick of Pappa Razzi, will undoubtedly suffer from
=> > their nearby proximity.

In article <1992Sep10.145712.25380@linus.mitre.org>, 
troyer@mitre.org (Tom Royer) writes:
=> Unfortunately, the last two times we've been to Pasta Villagio, the food has
=> been totally lacking in taste.  That's why we tried Pappa Razzi.  Maybe the
=> Pasta Villagio management should hire the Pappa Razzi kitchen staff.

Yeah.... I did mention that I thought the food at Pappa Razzi was
good. I mentioned Pasta Villagio relative to the service, which I
found great for such an inexpensive place. The food is "OK", but
nothing to rave about. But say.... you have a great idea there about
making "Pasta Razzi" or "Pappa Villagio".

- Bill
From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Pappa Razi in Concord
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:42:38 GMT
Organization: Mitech Corporation, Concord MA

In article <7219@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
> That evening, though, when the hostess told us our table was
> ready, she added, "I'll seat you after you settle up your bar bill."
> In that place, on that night, even with reason to find us, I doubt
> they were capable, but all the more reason why we should have skipped
> out :-)

Well, the strength of your review recommends the place for me.
But I'm definitely going to look for a situation/time that
is less crowded.

Part of the problem with BETA-TESTING a new place is the initial
startup service organization problem.

I remember the startup of the second "DAILY CATCH" near Kendal Square.

We kept having to reorder one of the items. Forgot which. Because one
waitress or another kept stealing the order from our less agressive waitress.

After about an hour of this we decided to talk to the owner.
So my wife ended up getting a free meal. (I ended up getting -no- meal 
since we decided to give up for that night, and come back later in the
week.)

Well, the next week, the same thing happened once, but the second time
my waitress won the foot race. 

Food worth fighting for.

-gjc
From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: "Rays" (was: Re: Pizza in Italy)
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:24:48 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep13.032627.19618@smds.com>, sammy@smds.com (Samuel Murphy) writes:
> >upstate NY.  Pizza in NYC - especially at RAYS, is definately the best. 
> 
> But which Rays is the REAL Rays? I counted 5 or 6.

This reminds me of my first trip to NYC, when I was in college.  My Dad,
who had grown up in NYC and on Long Island, said "look for a place called
Original Joe's...it's a great restaurant."

So, I checked out the phone book in NYC.  There were about 23 places called
"Original Joe's".  Uh, Dad, which one?

-- 
Guy Klose
milo@mvuxi.att.com
From: kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: NY/NJ/LI Subs vs NE Grinders (was What _is_ Greek Pizza?)
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:49:02 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Sep4.104617.3723@spdcc.com> jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz) writes:
>I do agree about NJ subs (if I wasn't so chauvenistic, I'd say NY Metro area :-)
>, but there is one area that many (not all!) *HOP seems to do a good job:
>
>*Steak and Cheese*
>

Isn't Philly that place known for these things (cheese steak with
peppers and onions).  I haven't been to Philly in I can't remember
who long but I've heard from Phillians that the Philly steaks sold
in Philly are much better than what's sold as Philly steaks in other
areas.

Is there an expert on Philly steaks out there that can give us a run
down on them and where one might find a good example of one in NE?



-- 
An amazing insight may have paid you a fleeting visit and then retreated.
Resist the temptation to chase it; it is faster than you are.  Value your
glimpse of it, and invite it to return some other time.      -John Bitmap
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Subject: Re: New Chinese Restaurant in Cambridge
From: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu (John-Marc Chandonia, , , )
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:01:21 EDT
Reply-To: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu
Originator: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu

In article <1992Sep13.100135.15553@husc3.harvard.edu>, khoo@husc3.harvard.edu writes:
> There is a new Chinese restuarant in Cambridge that is rather good.
> It has a completely authentic Chinese menu, with none of the pseudo-
> chinese American inventions like Chop Suey and Sweet and Sour <insert
> random meat here>. 
.....
> The place is called Chef Lee's and is on Beacon Street, opposite the Star
> Market between Porter Square and Inman Square.

I went to this place about 3 months ago, and the food was really, really
bland.  Even for the NE.  The waitress had an extremely patronizing
attitude which reminded me of SNL's "super fire hot wings" sketch.
I forget exactly what dish I had, but it was something that was supposed
to be spicy.  One dish where this really showed up was the hot & sour
soup... it was neither.

Maybe they went out over the summer and bought some spices, though.

JMC
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From: alexm@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Black Forest Cake
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:31:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mass General Hospital CIPR

In article <Bu0w7K.KMB@wpi.WPI.EDU> shari@omar.WPI.EDU (Shari Deiana) writes:
>Hi, I am desperate for a recipe for Black Forest Cake.  My BF's birthday
>is next week (that's why I posted here along with rec.food.recipes, being
>moderated, that other group can be slow).  It's his favorite, help, and thanks!

- Alden Merrel (SP?) is your best recipe

Alex
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Good Pizza
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:27:01 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: insert anything here

milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose) writes:
>barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
>> Even worse than the HOPs is Dominos.  It's a perfect demonstration of the
>> power of marketing.

>Have you tried Dominos in, say, the last couple of years?  I think I have
>a fairly discriminating palate, and I certainly enjoy Dominos more than
>any of my local places (King's, Depot HOP, Captain Pizza), the Hut, or
>Papa Gino's.  By far.

	Sadly I have to agree and unfortunately I can't buy Domino's
pizza any more.

	Why?  Because they donate HEAVILY to groups like
Operation Rescue and their ilk.  I do not wish to support
groups like that with my patronage.  Plus, the CEO of Domino's
has publically said "once abortion is illegal in all 50 states,
the next group we're going after is the queers".  He didn't elaborate
what "going after" meant.  I can only assume some sort of "final solution"
since anything else won't do anything to "solve the problem".

	Great - Nazidom from the corporate sector.

BBC

-----
When (at the time) Surgeon General Koop asked Senator Dannemeyer (R-Orange
County, CA) "What would you do if you knew the identity of every HIV+
person in the country?", he replied in all seriousness "Eliminate them."
Remember that Dannemeyer was at one time on the President's council on
AIDS.  And people wonder why there is no cure...  Must be more of that
"family values" crap I keep hearing about
From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Pappa Razi in Concord
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:47:39 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: AT&T

In article <7193@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
> ... I was wondering
> about other people's experiences at the other Pappa Razzi places.
> I know they have restaurants at Chestnut Hill and Galleria in
> Cambridge. Have people's dining experience's been similar at these
> places, or can we expect the Concord place to sort out the mess
> after awhile.

I've been to the one at Chestnut Hill, Saturday during a lunch hour.
It was very crowded, and I would expect any restaurant to have problems
on a busy day like that, but the Pappa Razzi was fine.  Service was
great.

Now...a few weeks ago, I went to the one at the North Shore Shopping Mall,
or whatever that place is called that sits between Danvers and Peabody.
It was on a week night, about 5:30 to 6pm, and there were very few people
in the place.  There were about three or so hosts at the front door, and
several white jacket-clad wait-people running around.  After about 15 minutes
we got a menu, from a waiter that had only one other table.  We had planned
on ordering dinner, but after another 20 minute wait for him to take our
order, we changed our minds to salads and glasses of wine.  We left shortly
afterwards and went someplace else for dinner.

All the while this was going on, I was straining my ears to hear what
was going on in a booth behind me.   There were four men seated in the
booth that appeared to be on some kind of a business-like meeting.  Just
before they left, one of them had called over their waiter and was
chastising him, saying something about how the waiter should not treat
customers in that manner.  The waiter was responding with somehting like:
"but I was only joking around".  After these four business dudes left, the
waiter scurried over, and then complained loudly enough for those of us
at nearby tables to hear:  "those jerks only left me a dollar".

Sound to me like they may have been big tippers!

My jury is still out on Pappa Razzi...the decisions so far have been split.
t
-- 
Guy Klose
milo@mvuxi.att.com
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From: jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz)
Subject: Re: Pappa Razi in Concord
Organization: Guest of Steven Dyer Consulting
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:52:20 GMT

We just went to the Papparazi in Chestnut Hill Mall.  The food was great, but
the service was only good.  Waterglasses went unfilled, foccacia was not
refilled (but was deposited only on the bread plates :-), and the pacing was
a bit too slow.

The pasta y fagioli was very unusual.  I'm used to a rather creamy,
over-cooked soup, Papparazi served big bowl of perfectly cooked beans
with freshly cooked pasta added.  My pasta, whose name I forget, but
our friend's description of it as "Squiggles with eggplant and smoked
mozzarella" is apropos, tasted good, but was swimming in oil.  My wife
shared a Caesar salad with two others and all had a generous portion.

I though it was a bit pricey, but I would go there again.

BTW: Bernard's, also in Chestnut Hill Mall, is a great Chinese restaurant.
Also on the pricey side, but the food is consistantly a notch above any
other chinese restaurant in this area.  I hope to go there for Dim Sum soon,
and see if they can compete with Chinatown.

-- 
     Jerry Natowitz
     Guest user on:
ARPA jin@ursa-major.spdcc.com
UUCP {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!jin
From: shari@omar.WPI.EDU (Shari Deiana)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Restaurants in Worcester.
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:21:31 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <Bu2Cq1.25u@wpi.WPI.EDU> pedro@wpi.WPI.EDU (Kerry Ivan Kurian) writes:
>Has anyone found any decent vegetarian restaurants in Worcester?
>   Would you please tell me about them?
>Thanks.
>
>

Try the Annapurna on Cambridge Street.  Great lacto-vegetarian indian
food.
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: Bertucci's (and my favorite selection there)
Keywords: pizza
Organization: Eaton Corp, Semiconductor Equipment Div., Beverly, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:18:44 GMT

In article <6060@transfer.stratus.com> kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner) writes:
>
>Now my favorite Bertucci's pizza.  I select the items: sliced tomatos,
>pesto, and proscuitto and hold the tomato sauce....

To this, add caramelized onions.  Yum!
-- 
... Steve Harris - Eaton Corp. - Beverly, MA - uunet!etnibsd!vsh
From: krovetz@canberra.cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: dialect and food
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:43:40 GMT
Reply-To: krovetz@cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1992Sep4.212538.21485@europa.asd.contel.com> pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe) writes:
>I explained it, of course, I got what I wanted.  These things are 
>definitely very regional.....but I find it interesting how different 
>people in different parts of the country refer to food stuff.
>
>--
>Dave Pascoe		
>Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com

Yeah, soda/pop is another one.  I also found interesting differences
between England and the US - for example, `lemonade' in England is
what we would call `7-up'.  The Dictionary of American Regional
English describes dialect variation across the country and tells
you which which areas use particular terms.

Bob
From: kgorman@star-trek.bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Johnny Rocket's
Date: 9 Sep 1992 21:08:33 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: kgorman@BBN.COM (Karen Gorman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: archive.bbn.com


In article <1992Sep9.175825.4820@hot.com> Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:
>Did a Johnny Rocket's open up in Boston?  Last night on the television show,  
>Chronicle (on WCVB), they showed Johnny Rocket's and other nostalgic places in  
>Massachusetts.  I didn't catch the entire spot on Johnny Rocket's which led me  
>to believe that one opened up here.
>
>FYI.  Johnny Rocket's is a hip 50's style restaurant chain that was founded in  
>Los Angeles.  It is similar to Ed Debevic's or to some lesser extent the Hard  
>Rock Cafe.  They serve burgers and shakes, etc...



There is a Johnny Rocket's in the Burlington Mall, in Burlington.


Karen
kg@bbn.com
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From: maler@abyss.zk3.dec.com (Eve Maler UEG Doc)
Subject: Re: Johnny Rocket's
Reply-To: maler@abyss.zk3.dec.com (Eve Maler UEG Doc)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Nashua, NH
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:08:54 GMT

Yep, there's a Johnny Rocket's in Burlington Mall, where the Magic Pan
used to be.  It's a great place!  The burgers are really good, and it's
great when the staff starts to do a choreographed dance to the music
from the jukeboxes (there's one in each booth).

The gimmick looks a little cutesy, but the experience is great.  I
always go there when I need cheering up.

	Eve
From: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu (John-Marc Chandonia, , , )
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: When is Taste of Boston?
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:13:45 GMT
Reply-To: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu
Distribution: ne
Originator: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu

In article <1992Sep9.143301.9947@engage.pko.dec.com>, wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com (Santa Wiryaman) writes:
>I went there last year and wasn't impressed.  And I won't call it cheap either.
>This was I would think an advertisement/promotion event for area restaurants,
>but admission was $5.00 and it wasn't at all an all you can eat arrangement.
>I had to buy coupons (10 coupons for $9, or something like that), and decent
>food cost 3 - 4 coupons for one or two scoops of sample.  So for a total of
>$14 I got two food samples and an appetizer.  I went out of the building
>unsatisfied and still hungry!  This was on a Saturday around lunch hour, and
>the attendance was pretty low, now I know why.  Oh, and the main event was a
>Boston Creme pie contest.  There were selected judges carrying pads, looking
>and tasting each entry.  What's the big deal, nobody else could sample the
>entries and judge for themselves.

That must not have been the same Taste, then.  It was $3 to get in, for all 
you could eat (there were #'s from 1-20 on the admission ticket, to be
punched out as you got stuff, but no booths bothered to punch them).  The
main event was a "battle of the radio talk show hosts" (wow!) and it
might have included a couple local politicians as well.  The name of
the one I went to was "W??? Taste of Boston" and might have been a
rip-off (although improved, it sounds like!) of the real thing.
Since I never listen to talk radio, I haven't heard about it this year,
if there is one.

JMC
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From: wse@helios.dfci.harvard.edu (William Edwards)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Bertucci's (and my favorite selection there)
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:01:02
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Distribution: ne
	<1992Aug31.181318.16347@inmet.camb.inmet.com>
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In-reply-to: vsh@etnibsd.uucp's message of Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:18:44 GMT

I never thought I'd do this, but here is an utter pan of Bertucci's
pizza.  We went to the Harvard Square (Cambridge) Bertucci's.  The
rolls were great, the antipasto was great, but the Pizza Romano had
*no* taste.  It's as though they left out garlic, oregano, or I know
not what.  We complained about it, just to let them know...

--
-- Bill Edwards, Senior Systems Analyst
   Dana Farber Cancer Institute; Div. of Biostatistics
   440 Brookline Ave. Rm. M3A20, Boston MA 02115
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From: salemme@athena.mit.edu (Anne Salemme)
Subject: Re: When is Taste of Boston?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:00:35 GMT


According to a flyer from the MIT Activities Committee, there's a
"Touch of Taste" show at Bayside Expo Center October 2-4, admission
is $5.00. The flyer mentions free taste samples of various things,
cookbooks, and "40,000 square feet of palatable delights!". I know
you asked about "Taste of Boston", and this one is called "Touch of
Taste", but perhaps it may be of interest to you. 
 
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