From: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gaynet
Subject: GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 21
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:08:49 GMT
Reply-To: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
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In this issue:
                             Famous and Out
      CUNY Board of Trustees Approves Hunter Diversity Requirement
                              TV Inquiries
                              Angelou Poem
                            MOW and housing
                               Dan Coats
                              Welcome back
                           voting statistics
                          Gays in the Military
                       Travel to MOW from Boston

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:03:04 +0100 (CET)
From: "Johnny Talbot, Systems (ext. 3721)" <TALBOTJ@avalon.rferl.org>
Subject: Famous and Out
Mime-Version: 1.0

I was looking through this list and thought of a few additions...

1  Valentino 			(fashion designer, Milan)
2  Gianni Versace		(fashion designer, Milan)
3  Giorgio Armani		(fashion designer, Milan)
4  Romeo Gigli			(fashion designer, Milan)
5  Dolce y Garbanna		(fashion designers, Milan)
6  Claude Montana 		(fashion designer, Paris)
7  J.P. Gaultier 		(fashion designer, Paris)
8  Karl Lagerfeld		(fashion designer, Paris)
8  Alaia			(fashion designer, Paris)
9  Yves Saint Laurent		(fashion designer, Paris)
10 Rifiat Ozbek			(fashion designer, Paris)
11 Theirry Mugler		(fashion designer, Paris)
12 Gordon Henderson 		(fashion designer, New York)
13 Todd Oldham 			(fashion designer, New York)
14 Issac Mizarai (sp?) 		(fashion designer, New York)
15 Michael Kors			(fashion designer, New York)
16 Jil Sander 			(fashion designer, Hamburg)
17 Wolfgang Joop 		(fashion designer, Berlin)
18 Joseph Tricot		(fashion designer, London)
19 John Richmond		(fashion designer, London)
20 Paul Smith			(fashion designer, London?)

I can think of about 20 more, but they are perhaps not as famous as those
listed above...

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 07:28:27 EST
Resent-Message-Id: <9301261228.AA08605@gallifrey.kent.edu>
Resent-Date:  Tue, 26 Jan 93 07:31:51 EST
Resent-From: Ken Sherrill <KSSHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Resent-To: queer nation <qn@queernet.org>, GAYNET <GAYNET@gallifrey.kent.edu>
From: Ken Sherrill <KSSHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject:      CUNY Board of Trustees Approves Hunter Diversity Requirement

The CUNY Board of Trustees unanimously approved Hunter College's Diversity
Requirement. The requirement, approved by the Hunter College Senate on October
14, 1992 will affect all students entering Hunter as of the Fall 1993 semester.

The requirement is as follows:

RESOLVED: Before graduating from Hunter, every student is required to complete
twelve credits in courses that address issues of pluralism and diversity. Stu-
dents will choose one three-credit course from each of the four areas below.

1. A course that focuses on historical and intellectual issues comprising the
study of non-European cultures or their political/economic systems, especially
those of Africa, Asia, or those indigenous to the Americas;

2. A course that focuses on the perspectives and contributions of one or more
of the following groups in the United States of America: African Americans,
Asian Americans, Latino Americans, and Native Americans;

3. A course that focuses on the perspectives and concerns of women and/or
issues of gender/sexual orientation;

4.A course that focuses on major issues -- artistic, literary, practical, or th
eoretical -- reflected in the intellectual traditions of, or principally deriv-
ed from, Europe.

Courses that satisfy this Pluralism and Diversity requirement may simultaneous-
ly meet a student's distribution requirement or the courses necessary for a ma-
jor or minor area of study. The subject matter of the courses to be taken can
lie within any of the academic disciplines and programs at the college.

As Chair of the Hunter College Senate, I take great pleasure and great pride in
the Board's action tonight.

Ken Sherrill

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Date: Tuesday, 26 January 93 07:19:10 CST
From: LLRLF%UTXDP.BITNET@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: TV Inquiries

Netters:

?Does anyone out there know whether or not Murphy Brown and/or Northern
Exposure are going to bring back their recurring gay characters?  I miss seeing
 Brian McNamara portray a gay character on Murphy Brown on the night that Miles
 had his dream about him, the gay character and the Washington Memorial.  I
just wonder about him returning.  Northern Exposure had the two gay men who
lived next door to astronaut Maurice.  Are they coming back?

- Richard Foster (UT Austin)

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 8:36:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Angelou Poem
From: An Anonymous Sender

Loren Meissner asked if the posted version of Ms. Angelou's Inaugural Poem was
 intentionally edited
to omit the references to Gays.  The version I got in the local newspaper is
 very different from the
posted version.  The reference to Gays was included with a list of occupations
 and nationallities.
The posted poem omits whole stanzas and lines.  It is fatally flawed and should
 not be kept as a
reference.  I recommend you check with the major news magazines and video tpae
 of the reading.

Thank you, especially to Perkins for keeping at his antique computerand saving
 this forum.

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:01:38 -0500
From: "Fintan R. Steele"  <fsteele@helix.nih.gov>
Subject: Re: MOW and housing

Greetings, netters.

To all those wishing to attend the MOW, I's suggest finding housing NOW!!!  My
lover and I live in Dupont Circle, and our apartment will be wall-to-wall, as
will the abodes of most of our friends and acquaintances...and I know most of
the hotels near the "ghetto" are solidly booked with long waiting lists...so
"you'd better work" at finding a place!

Hope to see a lot of you here!

Fintan

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Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:04:15 -0500 (EST)
From: HARKINS@Butler.EDU
Subject: Dan Coats
Mime-Version: 1.0

Does anyone have the text of Coats' "heterosexual rights" speech?
God, he makes me *SO* proud to be from Indiana.			James

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Date: 26 Jan 1993 09:23:05 CST
From: <DONIZETI%UIUCVMD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: Welcome back

A Friend in the lab sent this posting to me which I am forwarding
    on--congratulations, Mr. Perkins on your perserverance--Merle

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Subject: Homophobia in Churches

This came across on the Unitarian Mailing list:

>------------------------------------------------------------------
>SAN FRANCISCO (UPI) --
>
>A tiny Lutheran Church in San Francisco's Richmond District faced
>sanctions from its national governing body Monday after appointing
>an openly homosexual minister as its pastor.
>
>Members of the First United Lutheran Church apparently backed the
>decision to install Rev. Jeff Johnson as its pastor despite
>threats of possible explusion from the Evangelical Lutheran Church
>of America.
>
>The church already has been suspended from the organization for
>Johnson's ordination three years ago.
>
>Steve Johnson, a First United Lutheran member who is unrelated to
>the minister, said those who attend the church were "more
>concerned with living the gospel than with a person's sexual
>orientation."
>
>But several other Lutheran ministers across the Bay Area felt the
>church was out of line.
>
>Paul Meyer, pastor of Trinity Lutheran in Walnut Creek, Calif.,
>said he was "concerned with a congregation that...choses to move
>ahead of the church body as though it's trying to bring pressure
>(for change)."
>
>If the church is expelled, it loses its opportunity to vote at
>conventions and is not required to submit an annual financial
>report.

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From: ALORD@saturn.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date:         26 Jan 93 09:37:17 CST
Subject:      voting statistics
Priority:     normal

Does anyone know how they came up with the figure that one out of
every seven voters who voted for Clinton was gay/lesbian?  I've
heard/seen this statistic several places.

- --------
Allyn Lord
The University Museum
University of Arkansas
Fayetteville, AR

alord@saturn.uark.edu (Internet)
alord%saturn.uark.edu@uafsysb (Bitnet)

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:46:10 EST
From: "Michael L. Stemmeler" <3RQPGDJ@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Organization: Central Michigan University
Subject:      Gays in the Military

To register support for lifting the ban on gays in the military, call:
The White House Comment Line 202-456-1111 (it's always busy
however)
Don't give up.  An earlier listed phone number is incorrect.
Congress Switchboard number is 202-224-3121.  Use this number to phone
your Representatives and Senators.

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:40:29 CST
From: Terence P. Ma <tpm@Anat.UMSMed.Edu>
Subject: Travel to MOW from Boston

Regarding travel from Boston:

My sister in Boston told me about an ad in Bay Windows:

Five Star Travel Service (617-536-6999)

Packages at Radisson Park Terrace Hotel (a reasonably located hotel
within walking distance of DuPont Circle).
Includes: air fare, 2 nights, VIP tour vehicle pass, DC Visitor's
kit at $310 double occupancy. (Not too bad a price.)

They also have non-air packages and Amtrack packages.

I didn't see the ad myself and I don't know anything about the
travel agency, but it sounds reasonable.

Tere
--
Terence P. Ma, Ph.D.		Department of Anatomy
VOICE:	   601-984-1654		University of Mississippi Med. Ctr.
FAX:	   601-984-1655		2500 North State Street
INTERNET:  tpm@anat.UMSMED.EDU	Jackson, MS 39216-4505

- > If it were easy, some one would have done it already. Anon. <--

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