HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ccaajmf@ucl.ac.uk (John Franks)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:17:18 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

In article <1992Sep10.212131.1@vax1.umkc.edu> dprebyl@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>Just exactly what is this newsgroup about...
>When I first saw it I thought it had something to do with Neuromancer...
>is that right.

A nervous figure steps out toward the bar of the Chatsubo, wearing a Doctor
Who T-shirt (although few in this time are interested in such antique
fiction). He steps on a chair, and a few heads stray toward him as he speaks.

"Well, as someone who has lurked around here from time to time, and has
a few megabytes of this stuff archived, I, er, well, just thought I might
attempt an explanation of this group in the, er, appropriate format. Besides,
I was feeling bored."
	He looks uncertain and glances over to the table where his drink sits,
wishing it was in his hand.
	"You see, Chatsubo was meant to be different. A kind of imagined 
virtual environment, er, based on the bar of the same name from Mr Gibson's 
books." He seems to be hitting some kind of stride. 
	"People could come there and chat - hah, no pun intended - and tell
stories, generally being more creative than alt-dot-cyberpunk, much more
like alt-dot-callahans, in fact . . . er, the early stuff from this group
makes very good reading. Nowadays, I don't come here much; seems a bit
boring. Sorry, no offence." He steps down from the chair, and returns to 
his table, quietly slipping away into the shadows...

----

John Franks             I will arise and go now, for always night and day
ccaajmf@ucl.ac.uk       I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore; 
& jmf14@phx.cam.ac.uk   While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
   from Cambridge only  I hear it in the deep heart's core.
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Re: The Forest for the Trees: Part 2
Keywords: Li Model66 Cascades
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:27:34 GMT


grumble.... apologies, especially to Hubert.  I messed up.

Noriko would have actually said, "Mittsu kumi." when she first ran up to
her brother.  :)

Apologies and, perhaps, that will clarify something for some people and
completly mystify others.

Fun stuff.

And, sadly, since I'm posting from inigo, it won't let me cancel the last
and rewrite it properly.  Sigh...

---
Phyllis Rostykus
li@inigo.Data-IO.com
From: strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: ADMIN: character list long
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:10:13 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

following are The first postings of all the characters that I've received so far.
Included is a short description given by their authors, a contact address, and
the chronicles they have appeared in where I got them. (I decided to add this
since a lot of people requested it and included it in their submissions)
This is still brand new, If you have suggestions or something you'd rather see
please tell me.  I'd Also like to know if you actually use it, or find it useful.
In addition to this listing I will also be maintaining a much shorter list
which will include just the name, occupation, owner, and email address to be used
(i expect) as a quick reference for when you realize 'that guy Ski is exactly
who we need here, anyone remember what his address is?' or as a 'hmm we need
more muscle, lets see thug, muscle, samurai, I'll just email these three guys
and see if any of them are available.'
Again please give me some feedback, on what you think may be more helpful, or
even if you find either of these lists helpful.
Thanks.

Sean Jameson


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         .     :    .       .    :     .
   :     :    .  :             :  .    :     :      it seemed a good
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From: strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: ADMIN: character list short
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:21:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

And here is the much shorter list.
Please send corrections,updates,and new characters to strake@dartmouth.edu
thanks

Name:Brick (B Richard Wallace)	Occup:Programmer
Owner: David Palmer		Contact: palmer@tgrs.gsfc.nasa.gov

Name: The Countess		Occup: Cowgirl
Owner: Jen M Collins		Contact: almitra@dartmouth.edu

Name: Frey                      Occup: unknown
Owner: Kathryn Anderson         Contact: kat@bacchus.esa.oz.au

Name: Sarai Garret              Occup: Holo-artist
Owner: Kathryn Anderson         Contact: kat@bacchus.esa.oz.au

Name: Maxwell (Max) Gibbs	Occup: Physicist/Inventor/deus ex machina
Owner: Mark Friedman		Contact: friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu

Name: Kidd			Occup: Rigger
Owner: Sean Jameson		Contact: strake@dartmouth.edu

Name: Klone Crimson (Fred Marx)	Occup: Ex-corp decker turned musician
Owner: Mark Friedman		Contact friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu

Name: The Legend (Mr. Smith)    Occup: Cowboy
Owner David Palmer              Contact: palmer@tgrs.gsfc.nasa.gov

Name: Jack Mills                Occup: Information Broker
Owner: Kathryn Anderson         Contact: kat@bacchus.esa.oz.au

Name: Panu                      Occup: Telepathic Vadin-cat
Owner: Kathryn Anderson         Contact: kat@bacchus.esa.oz.au

Name: Ski (Dennis Broskowski)   Occup: Cowboy
Owner: Dan McDonald             Contact: danmcd@cs.arizona.edu

Name: Tarren                    Occup: dead cowboy in the matrix
Owner: Kathryn Anderson         Contact: kat@bacchus.esa.oz.au

Name: unknown ('the kid')	Occup: surviving (cowboy?)
Owner: David Palmer		Contact: palmer@tgrs.gsfc.nasa.gov

Name: Viadd			Occup: communications specialist
Owner: David Palmer		Contact: palmer@tgrs.gsfc.nasa.gov

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   :     :    .  :             :  .    :     :      it seemed a good
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
From: GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor)
Subject: ADMIN: So, who really cares, Gaynor?
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:56:21 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Just a quick blorb to let folks I haven't dropped off the face o' the
planet.  Haven't had writing time in a week, and it turned out my
draft of the next "Deuces" installment got corrupted.  Spent most o'
the evening recovering that.

So, expect another entry in "Deuces" soon (and a long entry at that),
hopefully followed soon by another SIB.

And then?  <shrug>


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   Jim Gaynor    | "Man-of-Many-Beeping-Sounds-and-Flashing-Lights" - KAJ
OSU/ACS/FMS/OCES | <gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu> or <gaynor.4@osu.edu>
ObDiscl:  Everything stated here and above is _my_ opinion.  Mine mine mine!
ObQuote: "Every devil I meet becomes a friend of mine." - Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
From: usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System)
Subject: ADMIN: Is anyone out there ?
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA, PORTUGAL
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:40:32 GMT

	I mean, I've been reading this newsgroups for some time, and I'm
really getting dissapointed... Because of this, I've already started
writting my own CP story... and all my previous writtings were more
in a Douglas Adams style... I just wanna say that everybody should
give writting a try ! It's not hard, and if you receive positive output,
u'll feel great...
	I am going to translate my story, and I'll post it here, as soon as
I can...
	I have posted it here, in a local newsgroup, and altough this is
a "computer science" institute, dedicated to R&D in several areas, most
of the output I got was "I didn't understand a thing."... kinda 
frustrating... but I translated and merged a.c and a.c.c faqs, and
some guys now know what I am talking about...

	The message is there : WRITE !

c u ...

----
 joao Pedro Martins, Lisboa, Portugal - jota@tutor.inesc.pt
 
 "Carpe Diem, she muttered, and laughed. We seize the day.	
  Well, sometimes, the day seizes back !" (Psychodrome) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
From: GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor)
Subject: ADMIN: Waitress in the Chatsubo
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:31:36 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I've been using a character named "Dorcas" as the Chatsubo's waitress
in some of my recent stories (both Sib and Blackjack).  Mark Friedman
also used her in his latest in the Deuces series, and I know of one
other person who has requested background on her from me.  The name, I
admit, is brazenly stolen from "Stranger in a Strange Land", along
with the initial physical view.  Things got modified from there,
enough so I think she's her own character now.

So, in the interest of adding a standardized "waitress" to go along
with Ratz and Lonny and his girls, here's the information that makes
up my own mental picture of Dorcas, the current waitress in the
Chatsubo.  I give permission for her to be used in other "stories" -
you don't even have to tell me before you do it.  :-)  However, I
would prefer that you ask my permission if you intend to do any major
character development with her.

* * *

Dorcas is in her mid-to-late twenties.  Her lineage is quite obviously
Indian - as in "from India", rather than Amerind.  Her hair is long,
straight, and very black, frequently worn in a loose ponytail (gotta
keep the hair out of the beer, if nothing else). She is attractive,
but not the in same way that Lonny's girls are.  They're "pretty". 
Dorcas something more subtle and exotic than "pretty", it takes a
second or even a third look to really be properly perceived.

She commonly wears loose flowing clothing in colors that, although
muted, are quite bright for the "dark" atmosphere of the Chatsubo. 
Several pieces of jewelry - rings, bracelets, necklace, and at least
five earrings - although it doesn't seem gaudy on her.  Dorcas would
have a hard time being stealthy - all the jewelry combines to give off
a light ringing as she moves.  It's not an unpleasant sound.

Although her ancestry is undeniably Indian, Dorcas does not wear a
caste marking of any sort.

Finally, Dorcas herself is obviously only just beginning to feel
comfortable in the Chatsubo.  When she started, the newness and
strangeness of it all was quite overwhelming, and she was very much in
fear of being killed in some random fight. [Thus her timidness when
Sib entered in the mech!] But as she's worked over the past weeks,
she's started to get a feel for the flow of the place, and is
beginning to show that she now feels she "belongs".  It shows in her
banter with the customers, and how she deals with the more troublesome
ones.  Dorcas has a quick wit, and although she's usually quite
amiable (now that she isn't in fear for her life), she has a sharp
tongue - and the willingness to use it in the right situation.

* * *

Enjoy!

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   Jim Gaynor    | "Man-of-Many-Beeping-Sounds-and-Flashing-Lights" - KAJ
OSU/ACS/FMS/OCES | <gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu> or <gaynor.4@osu.edu>
ObDiscl:  Everything stated here and above is _my_ opinion.  Mine mine mine!
ObQuote: "Every devil I meet becomes a friend of mine." - Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System)
Subject: How many would *REALY* like to live in WG universe ?
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA, PORTUGAL
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:51:59 GMT


	My question is very simple:

		How many of u guys would like to live in the universe idealized
	by William Gibson & Co. ?

	Personal op: I wouldn't.	
----
 joao Pedro Martins, Lisboa, Portugal - jota@tutor.UUCP
 
 "Carpe Diem, she muttered... we seize the day.	
  Well, sometimes, the day seizes back !" (Psychodrome)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 1992 18:02:27 -0400 
From: Eric Andrew Morgan <em31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut
	<1992Sep4.175808.22603@u.washington.edu>

I know this is just another question to add to the list, but does anyone
know if the new release of Blade Runner is coming anywhere near
Pittsburgh, or Washington, D.C.?

-- Eric

Eric Andrew Morgan
Psychology Department(Cognitive Science), Class of '93
Carnegie Mellon University
From: strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: How many would *REALY* like to live in WG universe ?
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:00:04 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

N020BA@tamvm1.tamu.edu writes:


>    Whoever wants to live in a Willaim Gibson universe needs to seriously
>reconsider thier position. A WG universe is completely deviod of love, humor
>and morality. Think of the Sense/Net break-in in Neuromancer. In that
>break-in, Case DELIBERATLEY flashed the display screen at a rate that in-
>duced seizures. He knew exactly what he was doing and why. What a heartless
>,callous person. Yet in a WG universe, this sort of person is considered a
>hero!
>    In a WG universe life is cheap and people are tools to be discarded.
>Criminals are heros and decent person villians. A WG universe has great
>tech, but lousy society.

I agree, on all counts except one. You have no way of saying that the WG
universe is completely devoid of love, humor, and morality. The story gives
us a view of the part of that world that is the equivelant of our underworld.
I could go to almost any good sized city and find a mentality similar to
that which gibson gives us, but lacking the tech. Granted, that part of
society is a _lot_ more common and in the open then it is now, but it isn't
all of society. We don't see tellers, and authors, and game writers, or the
people who spend their weekends watching the latest favorite athletic event.
Those people must live in his world, or the society he describes could not
exist. (There has to be people around to foolishly consume goods and spend
money) I'm certain that they have some sense of morality, and tell jokes,
and probably even have a lover.

As for the great tech, for some of us, that's all that matters.

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         .     :    .       .    :     .
   :     :    .  :             :  .    :     :      it seemed a good
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From: mppd5@syma.sussex.ac.uk (John Coley)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: EMP weapons
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:10:13 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex, five miles away from Brighton
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

fmoody@sal-sun95.usc.edu (Ninja) writes:
: 
: 	As far as I know, there aren`t any non-nuclear EMP weapons for the same
: reason there are few (or none, not sure) X-ray lasers.  The amnount of energy
: required to produce significant damage is enormous (comparatively).  And such a
: weapon would, in the near future, require a First World tech behind it.  I'm also
: guessing it would be of large size.  Maybe a EMP "laser" would be an easier task?
: 
: 
: fmoody

According to Flight International a few weeks ago, a British company (I
think it was BAe) is conducting research into an EMP weapon. Apparently
you take a travelling wave tube and explosivly collapse it resulting in
a very large microwave pulse out of the end. Research seems to be a long
way from making this a viable weapon however.
From: guru-a0@access.digex.com (Guru Aleph-Null)
Subject: Re: Monomyl wire : Is it possible?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:14:14 GMT

I don't know if it would be folded-carbon steel, but I think that
maybe fibers made up of fullerene-tubes (``bucky-tubes'') may come
pretty close to "monomyl wire". If only they can figure a way of mass
producing bucky-tubes... it might put the cotton-industry out of
business! :>


Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: dbarberi@mothra.syr.EDU (London W11)
Subject: Re: n-Dimensional Cyber Space
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 22:05:01 EDT

In article <pchang.715976521@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> pchang@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (The Weasel) writes:
>This was done very nicely in FlatLand. I highly recommend it for anybody
>thinking about higher dimensions and stuff. It is an easy read, but it
>really does a good job of raising a bunch of interesting issues.
   And after you finish _Flatland_ read _The 4th Dimension_ by Rudy Rucker. 
It takes the ideas in Flatland and runs with 'em :)
 

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: tagg@hg.uleth.ca (Nathaniel Tagg)
Subject: n-Dimensional Cyber Space
Reply-To: tagg@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:34:29 GMT

     This seems a fascinating idea.  The practical value of such an imaging
system is, of course, of debateable value;  anything over two dimensions tends
to have enough degrees of freedom to satisfy everyday demands.  Consider,
however, a research tool that could let physicists look at, say, the evolution
of a three-level quantum mechanical system (which is characterized by eight
degrees of freedom, not three) in a real view, where you could see everything.
     The problem, of course, is that humans have enough trouble with three
dimensions.  Although we can handle various situations of three-d object
manipulation, it is hypothesised that humans need a 'local vertical' (cf
fiction: _Stardance_,Spider Robinson; _Ender's  Game_ Orson Scott Card) to
operate in a three dimensional theatre.  It is certainly true that we tend to
describe in terms of two dimentions if we can help it.
     It is possible that the visual centers of the brain can cope if they are
exposed at an early age to the rules available.  I have always wondered if an
interactive computer model of 4-space could be used to train a child from birth
to see 4-dimensionally. 
     But even with training from birth, it seems unlikely that we can deal with
4d space.  However, since we are disscussing this in a forum which suggests
brain-machine interface, it may be possible that that section of brain could be
reconstructed or bypassed so that 4d information could be interpreted
successfully.  The potential problem one could see, however, is that an added
degree of freedom would require an exponential increase in required 'processing
time' for that portion of the brain (our own or custom-built) to deal with the
added information, information that is assumedly fed in through external
linkages.  Who knows?

--------- Nat
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From: z_rasmusseam@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Really sharp ... / Where can I get one...
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:32:08 GMT
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Ok, well, I'm tired of beeing asked through personal mail....SO, by
popular demand, here is address of the people who made my dagger.
	
	Master Smith Daniel Watson
	Angel Sword
	Number One presidio
	Wimberly, TX 78676
	(512) 847-2531

NOTE: Angel Sword does not have a retail shop or an open forge.  They only
      sell at Renaissance Faires.
Some other things of interest... (Quoting from my guarantee...)
	* Master Smith Daniel Watson does custom work.  You can supply a design
	  or have Angel Sword create the design.  We have an extensive back-
	  ground and library in both modern and antique sword design and manu-
	  facture.
	* Damascus blades are available on custom order, as are Japanses blades.


Now...There.  You all have the address now, call him (write to him, whatever
	floats your boat) and find out for yourselves...

    
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PS.  No offense intended to those who sincerely requested the address...
From: burtond@novavax.UUCP (Donald B. Burton)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re^2: Biochips?  Yeeeaaah riiight...
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:31:36 GMT
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL


re:  biochips


hmm do you happen to have any information
on piezoelectric chips?  "pseudo-bio" chips?

or are they called something else?
From: at887@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Eddie Argo, where are you? (Book Search)
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:39:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Perhaps some kind soul in NetLand can help me out.

Years ago I read a piece of fiction about a guy (I think that the 
character's name was Eddie Argo) who was a computer programmer for 
the city of Buffalo NY.  The character fakes his own death, steals 
a van and a computer,  and becomes a hi-tech Robin Hood, travelling
around the country hacking into systems to "steal from the rich and 
give to the poor".  I've been looking for the book the past couple 
of years but am a little bit hamstrung by the fact that not only 
can't I remember the name of the book, I *also* can't remember the 
name of the author.

Can anyone help me out?  I'd like to find out (at least) the name
of the book and the authors name.  The publisher and publication 
date would also really be helpful.  

Please e-mail all responses to at887@cleveland.freenet.edu.

Thanx a lot!

-- 
Scott Butler
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: cgettle@netcon.smc.edu (Carl Gettleman)
Subject: Biochips
Organization: Santa Monica College, Santa Monica, CA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:46:23 GMT

     If you are new to the research on biochips I suggest that you read
an article on a Dyscover magazine a couple of months ago, on japanese scientiststhat are growing neural circuits.

                                             --- Aleph One