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From: Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Morse Code Question
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:35:16 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I'm just starting to learn Morse code, and I wondered how easy it becomes?

I mean, right now I have to really concentrate on what I'm listening to
understand what's what. I'm wondering if some of you old-timers can just listen
to it, almost like a background conversation, and still comprehend what is
being sent? Or, is it always an exercise in concentrated listening?

I'm proud to say that I have all my numbers completely down-pat. Now, for the
tough stuff! :)

Marc North (A future ham)



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Marc North  --  The Lanceholder's Group
From: mtoms@ems.cdc.com (Mark Toms)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Callbook Server At callsign.cs.Buffalo.EDU
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:51:30 GMT
Reply-To: mtoms@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC


A remote host did not respond within the timeout period.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
WB3BCP


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C/O Empros Systems International            Phone: (612) 553-4423
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Of PL259 on 9913 and other sins. 
From: jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 15:57:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Grendel's Lair


In article <1992Sep1.192708.22577@news.acns.nwu.edu> rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes:

  >    Now construct a circle on a Smith Chart centered at 50 ohms and 
  >    plot the impedance B on it.  Move along the constant SWR circle
  >    (a strong magnifying glass and 0.1mm pencil lead might be useful
  >    in this excercise) and you have the horrible mismatch at A.

  About time somebody pointed out the obvious. HAM's can be such anal-
  retentives about technology they only half understand.

  A couple of other MYTHS:

        1. Antenna and feedlines HAVE to be perfectly matched.
        2. Antenna towers 70 ft up for EMERGENCY use.
        3. Solid communications requires 5KW RF out.

   A couple of non-technical issues just for balance:

        1. EVERYONE knows the secret local repeater frequency and PL.
        2. Profanity and "59 Los Angeles" spreads international goodwill.
        3. A belt-clipped HT is equivalent to a year in the police academy.

   And my favorite:

        My chosen mode of communication is the only one true mode.

        (Hint: CW, AM, SSB, FM, RTTY, AMTOR, SSTV, FSTV, PACKET etc.)

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080
From: n2gj@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us (Gerry Jurrens)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham License Plates
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:55:25 GMT
Organization: Princeton High School, Princeton, New Jersey

in message 6781  Ed Hare, KA1CV                  ehare@arrl.org writes:
 
>>New  Jersey    $ 10/free      
more than one car can use a ham 
call (e.g. W2WEC-2)
 
 
I'd like to add that, in NJ, the car must be registered in the name of 
the ham whose name appears on the FCC license.  In other words, if the 
car is in your non-ham spouse's name, there can be no ham plate on it.
   
BTW, if you see a silver Mazda with N2GJ plates, it's my XYL, Connie.
If you see a gold Mazda with N2ATJ plates, it's me.  We each drive the 
car whose plates appear on each other's cars!  Keeps everybody guessing!
    
73,
Gerry Jurrens, N2GJ

-----
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DNS: n2gj@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us      UUCP: ...!princeton!phsbbs!n2gj
Disclaimer: Author bears full responsibility for this message.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Joe J Retzer)
Subject: Frequency Counters
Originator: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:15:10 GMT

I was considering the purchase of a frequency counter and had 
narrowed it down to 2 models:

	  (1) Optoelectronics Model 2810, Sale Price $199.00
	  (2) Startek BG-15, Sale Price $169.95


Does anyone have any info as to how these two differ? and/or
Which is a better unit?

			 Thanks in Advance,
			    Joe Retzer N9QXL

====================================================================
			      
By the way, the Startek is advertised in the Sept. QST from AES.
The top line reads:
	             "In Stock at AES"

What they really mean is:
	             "In Stock at AES" .........  NOT

I made the trip to the Milw. Store on 8/31 only to find they were out 
of stock.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:10:41 GMT

In article <Aug.28.10.35.03.1992.6672@pilot.njin.net> ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie) writes:
>> So when did these TV's become illegal and
>> when can I expect the SS to come knocking on my door?
>
>They're not illegal (yet), but listening to phone calls with them is.

The ECPA specifically prohibits listening to all encrypted communications
as well, don't forget.  And, the Supreme court has ruled that a subcarrier
is a form of encrypted communication.  So just make sure not to turn the
sound up and you'll be okay with that TV.
--scott
From: markus@tc.fluke.COM (Mark Hastings)
Subject: Kenwood TH-28A mods
Keywords: kenwood TH-28 mods
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:28:29 GMT


I just bought a Kenwood TH-28A HT, it's been said that there are
several mods (by adding and removing diodes) to extend and enhance
some it's ranges and features.  I would appreciate it if someone
could Email this list of mods and what they do. (if anyone knows) 
I have been watching this group for a couple of weeks to see if this 
info had already been sent on the TH-28A but haven't seen anything.  

Thanks,

Mark Hastings
(aka markus@tc.fluke.COM)

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:01:23 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug29.015531.15683@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.214645.4889@mv.mv.com>, mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes...
>>In article <l9qhf3INNn02@news.bbn.com> levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
>>>In my local area are:
>>>	Channel 56 (Independent, Boston)
>
>>Which has the best TV callsign I know of:  WLVI.
>>
>>(LVI == 56 in roman numerals.)

>
>Second best I know of.
>
>#1 is WTEN which is channel (guess) in Albany, NY.
>
>-Mike

Or WXIA, (channel) 11, Atlanta.  Formerly WAII.

-- 
+ Michael Covington - Artificial Intelligence Programs - U of Georgia - USA 
+ Unless otherwise noted, these are private opinions, not official statements.
+ VOTE NO GEORGIA LOTTERY - we need not imitate mistakes of other states.
From: jhays@boi.hp.com (John D. Hays)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Most fitting commercial callsigns
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:41:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division (LAFS)

KXIV - Channel 14 - Salt Lake City, Utah (Stretchin' the memory)
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From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Sexist Statement
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:02:57 GMT
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848

jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus) writes:

>gals? Oh come on team, the "Politically Correct" term now is Vaginal American.

Of course, the rational and mature thing to do is to ignore such a juvenile
comment. 

But this IS the first week of elementary school in my town.  
And so, I decided to use this opportunity to briefly revisit those carefree 
grade-school days, when life's biggest worry was how to come up with the
best insults for some kid who was bothering you. A period in life that
Mr. Angus, apparently, still hasn't left behind.

So, Jeff ...

> ... < This space left blank intentionally. > 

Along with that space between your ears.

And ...
 
>J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080

Wouldn't your last name be so much more fitting if you'd just lose that "g."

Gee, wasn't that fun. 

And now I return to the life of a mature, responsible adult.  
You ought to try it some time, Jeff.

(My apologies to the rest of you for the non-ham-related flame).

Sharon 
-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:14473 alt.folklore.urban:22077
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:00:33 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <btjh9h.6n3@wang.com> dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:
>pitonyak@mostaccioli.cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pitonyak) writes:

>(cross posting to alt.folklore.urban)  Although the subject of pi==3.0
>has been beat to death in a.f.u, I don't recall whether or not the
>subject of the legality of listening to cellular phone conversations
>has been discussed.  That was the original subject of this posting.
>
>Comments, afu'ers?


Interestingly enough, I just heard a bit about this on TV last week
(Good Morning America, of all places).  A communications "expert" told
Joan Lunden that it was illegal to intercept conversations taking place
over traditional "corded" phones and cellular phones, but that there are
currently no laws against recieving converstaions broadcast by home
cordless telephones. 

Joan spent most of the time trying to figure out what the difference
between a cellular phone and a cordless phone was.  In the process she
got the guy to agree to concepts of cellular and cordless phone
communication that weren't true because the expert realized that he
wasn't getting through her and that it was easier to simply agree than
to try and explain it to her again, potentially causing her greater
embarassment.

"So....it's illegal to recieve cordless phone transmissions because
they're sent over such long distances from cell to cell, right?"

"Uh, yeah...right, Joan." 


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From: bbb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help with a Freq Change on a pager
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:16:37 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Is there anyone out there who might be able to give me a hand in
changing the receive freq of a Motorola Page-Boy-II  pager?
Its currently at 464.6mHz and I need to get it to 496.55mHz.
If there is anyone who knows about these units, I'd sure like to 
'chat' with you.  Either by e-mail, or I could phone you.
(Its needed as a telemetry receiver for research being carried out
here at the Univ.)
Many thanks in advance... (let me know if there is a better news group
to ask this of. I'm tring sci.electronis too.)  Thanks folks
BB
From: Vern.Suter@f100.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Vern Suter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Antenna Grounding ??'s
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:02:34 GMT

I have a discone (that my scanner uses) mounted up on the roof
and the mast is grounded to an 8-foot ground rod via some solid
copper grounding wire. I want to put a J-pole antenna up there
also (to transmit on 2m). Here's my question: Can I run the
copper grounding wire from the J-pole mast and attach to the
grounding wire running from the discone, or would it be
better to run the ground wire from the J-pole all the way to the
ground rod instead of shortcutting to the discone ground wire (or
have I confused everyone including myself with my wording of this
question)? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.


 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)
From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:21:34 GMT
Subject: Re: RG 8 atten @ 20 Mhz?
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan) writes:

>I do not remember the attenuation at 20MHz, but at 7MHz it is about
>0.8db per 100 feet for the foam dielectric RG8 cable and about 1.6db/100ft
>for RG58 cable.  Further, the graphs seemed to be, more or less, straight 
>lines and so log-linear interpolation for other frequencies should work 
>well.

At the risk of starting a discussion that will get out of hand...
Rajiv's observation is correct.  Maybe it will be easier for some
to remember if you realize that almost all the loss in decent coax
is because of "copper" resistance, not losses in the dielectric.
The conductor loss goes at the square root of frequency, since that's
how the skin depth varies, as long as the conductors are thicker
than, say, a couple times the skin depth.  These are good approximations
in the HF and VHF regions for all but the tiniest cables or for very
lossy dielectrics.  Note that this also tells you why foam coax or
9913 is lower loss:  the lower dielectric constant requires a larger
center conductor, which has lower resistance.  

So, to a good approximation, the ratio

      sqrt(f) / (dB/100ft)

is constant for a given coax over the HF and VHF ranges.

73, K7ITM

Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:14496 alt.folklore.urban:22105 misc.legal:16431
From: eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:00:38 GMT
Followup-To: misc.legal
Organization: Superseding Information, Inc.

In <1992Aug26.081202.3527@tigger.jvnc.net>, keithd@bigguy.timeplex.com sez:
>
>Actualy I beg to differe.  There was a very public trial of a drug runner
>here in Florida where the Defendant (read as Convict now) claimed that
>the Feds had illeagaly tapped his cellular phone.  The courts not only slammed
>him so hard his cellular may pass in another year or so, but has condoned the
>Southern Bell Mobility activity of recording ALL cell conversations for use
>by law enforcement types need them.  The basis for the rooling being that
>Cellular is like CB or Ship-to-Shore.  This is an open broadcast on public
>airwaves and thus there was no reason for them to assume that it would be
>considdered "private".

Wrong.  

Once again, try looking at sections 2510 et seq. of Title 18, United
States Code.  Specifically, try 2510(1) [exempting cordless phone
portion of transmission], 2511(1) [the express prohibition], and
2511(2)(g)(ii) [exempting CB and ship-to-shore].

Followups directed to misc.legal.

-- 
Morally and artistically, Henry Miller had MORE right to free speech than
Walt Disney and [Father] Coughlin because Miller was an honest man whereas
Disney and Coughlin were liars.   - Ed Nilges
	   Mark Eckenwiler    eck@panix.com     ...!cmcl2!panix!eck
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:21:33 GMT

MM> == moroney  <moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com> 

 MM> #1 is WTEN which is channel (guess) in Albany, NY.

I still like KTVK-TV in Phoenix...though it shoulda been in Walla Walla.

--Chris "They play a lot of Duran Duran stuff from their Pago Pago tour" Davis
--
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            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:14527 rec.radio.amateur.packet:2274
From: mancus@norm.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Link between BBS via Amateur Radio
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:08:03 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Organization: nasa-jsc

In article <17gsrjINN9pn@network.ucsd.edu>, brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
> >I would like to know if it is already done or not, to use
> >Ham radio to link stations in a BBS network.

> >Assume 100k and 1 Meg of daily traffic.
 
> (Assuming distances of more than 50km between sites.)
> 
> At 100kb/day, you're dealing with many more times the amount of traffic
> the existing ham radio BBS network is currently carrying.  A megabyte
> with existing ham technology is impossible.
 
> Telephone lines and modems will be cheaper, even for international
> calls.
 
> The ham radio packet bbs network is really nothing more than a toy.  It
> is far too limited as far as restrictions on content, bandwidth, and
> reliability to be used in a production BBS environment of the type that
> land-line-based BBS users have been accustomed to seeing for more than
> a decade.
> 	- Brian

  Nonsense.  You are making assumptions about using 1200 baud VHF links.
We can achieve much higher bandwidths using good compression strategies
and by moving up into the microwave region.  My reading so far indicates
that 30-40 mile microwave links running 10 Mbit/sec should be possible
without outrageous investments.
  The existing packet network is very poor, but that's just because
it's dated.  Technology very quickly becomes obsolete these days, and
we hams don't have barrels of money to burn.
  Ultimately, the packet network needs to put its backbones up in the
microwave region and run Internet speeds.

-- 
 Keith Mancus    <mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov>                         |
                 N5WVR                                                  |
  "If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I'd rent out Texas and live       |
  in Hell." -General Sheridan                                           |
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio: A Technical Hobby? (was: QST, in my opinion)
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:40:32 GMT

gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:

>If we give up on the technical basis of the service, what's
>the *practical* difference between amateur radio and citizen's
>band? 

Uh, Gary, been on 2mtrs lately? Been on 20 or 75 mtrs lately?


>I don't think that's philosophically acceptable. Amateur radio
>is supposed to be about radio, and advancing radio technology, 
>and radio operator skills, and public service, and international 
>goodwill.  Most importantly, it's about learning, lifelong. Learning
>to improve our methods and skills, learning about *radio*, learning
>about *communicating* effectively. Not just for some test, every day.

So, you would support mandatory re-testing of all amateurs to make
sure their technical levels are up to snuff?

This is >your< concept of what Amateur Radio is. It is not mine.

You may like CW. I may like packet. Amateur Radio has many broad
aspects which allow people with different interests to get involved
with the hobby.


>Everybody doesn't have to be a wizard, designing his own equipment
>from scratch. But everybody should have a *clue* how and why things
>work. 

So, soon only Electrical Engineers will be able to get a ham license?
Take a look inside that FT1000D lately? 


>A major part of amateur radio is supposed to be self training,
>not just once for an exam, but a continuing process for a lifetime.

Again, >your< definition, not mine.


>What's important is the *continuing* education offered by
>amateur radio once the licensing hurdle is past.

"Continuing education"? Where do I get my CECs?


>A well
>rounded amateur needs more than just ad hoc skills, he needs
>a broader understanding of why things work so that he can
>become an even more effective operator.

A traffic-handler needs to understand how to redesign the DSP
module of his/her TS-950SDX? I think not.


> If it were easy CBers could do it. :-)

They do. They transmit with ham licenses.

MD
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Subject: TM-741 manual: want a good one?
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:43:28 GMT


I posted this before, and I got a good response.  Now I'm ready to do it.

The 741 manual is almost adequate, but not great.  The radio *is* great,
and there should be a manual that matches.  So, while translating the
manual to English (from Japanenglish) it seemed reasonable to make some
notes.

I'd like to come up with *the* definitive TM-741 users manual.  It would
include the stock stuff (just translating what's in the manual); and then
the extra stuff when you cut the green wire (how to do it, what you lose,
what you get), and the more risky mods (what they are, what you get, etc.)
and finally the "Gee, I wish" list.

I need some volunteers.  At a couple of levels.  First, those who would like
to receive the final version after all the work has been done.  But understand
that it will take a while before it's ready.  And that you will never see your
name in print.

Second: those who will proofread the final versions, and test using their 741s.

Third: those who will forward Kenwood manual corrections to me, with page
number, old text, new text.

Fourth: those who have been saving mod postings, who would like to send the
clippings to me.

All volunteers are welcome to come forward.  And you can be from more than
one category if you like.

I'd like to have this project done by the end of October, 1992.

The resulting document will be a Postscript(tm) file, available for the
taking, and other formats will probably become available, depending on
the demand.

If you want to help, send me e-mail!  

73,
Dave (kz1o)

dbushong@wang.com

-- 
Dave Bushong, KZ1O@K1UGM.MA
Wang Laboratories, Inc.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics,chi.places,rec.radio.swap