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From: gallua.gallaudet.ed!rlwilliams@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:45:00 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University
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In article <1992Jul22.152315.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, 
rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.152615.20252@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, 
gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul20.145613.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, 
rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>> 
>> [ discussion of Walken deleted ]
>> 
>>> >  A not widely known short (hour long for HBO if I remember
>>> > correctly) is "Who Am I Now?" with Walken and Susan Sarandon.  Quite 
good
>> 
>> [....]
>> 
>>> was called "who am I this time," but no matter. Since I don't get cable, 
and I
>>> did see it, I think it was on PBS rather than HBO. anyway it's one of my
>>> favorites.
>> 
>> So tell me.  What was it about?  Also, I don't remember what part
>> Walken played in The Graduate.
>> 
>> GMS
> 
> -----------
> I'm pretty sure Walken played... somebody's half crazed older brother.
> Now I'm not sure if it was the graduate... Now I'm wondering if it was Love
> Story...  
> B. Who am I this time" is about a small town theater group who puts on a
> different show every summer. Walken played a VERY shy man who was recruited
 to
> play the lead in A Streetcar Named Desire. Once into the role he becomes
> transformed into the part, almost becoming Brando. when he leaves the role 
he
> reverts to his shy "clark kent" personna. There's also a sweet love story 
in
> there...  Worth looking for.
> 
> rlwilliams
====
I've just been graciously informed that Walken played Diane Keaton's crazy
younger brother in Annie Hall.  Not the Graduate. Not Love Story. 

(Never mind)

rlwilliams
From: mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Alien 3
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:14:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

# From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)

#From article <1992Jul23.200307.710@u.washington.edu>, by mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey):
#> 	It was a good observation to see that Dallas was carrying something.
#> 	HOWEVER, it is really wishful thinking that the Nostromo, an
#> 	M class starfreighter, NOT a military frigate, would have such
#> 	a heavy piece of equipment.  Such a weapon would not be practical
#> 	or even allowed for a seven-man crew of a space tug.
#
#What is "such a weapon"?  You write as if you had the blueprints in
#front aof you.  I'm not aware that nowadays commercial vessels are not
#allowed to carry guns aboard.  Quoting it as an "M class freighter"
#has no bearing on the situation, since we don't know the meaning of
#classes A-L and N-Z.  Calling it a space tug, on the other hand, makes
#it sound like a harbor tug, which it isn't.  Compare it to a large,
#transoceanic ore-carrier, if you will.

        When I referred to succh a weapon, I am referring to a man-portable
	gatling cannon that you described.  Of course, it could have been
	a phased plasma gun or a gauss rifle, but regardless, you made it
	sound as if he were carrying some pretty heavy firepower, contrary
	to common sense, unless they were pirates.  But these were ligitimate
	company employees in a commercial vessel.  Sure they could have
	weapons, but nothing paramilitary.  Of course, we both have our
	speculations... :)
	
	Sorry about the misleading freighter designation.   I referred to it
	as a space tug, for the Nostromo is a commercial towing vehicle.  It
	pulls a cargo platform (in the Nostromo's case, an ore refinery) and
	does not carry the bulk of its load internally.  The main point 
	though is that it was COMMERCIAL not MILITARY. 
 
#> 	The Nostromo did have weapons, though.  The flamethrowers, namely.

#No, these were jury-rigged by the engineers.  It is quite sensible to
#assume that when Dallas talked about "the weapons", he meant guns,
#which they did not use due to the threat from the acid blood.

	If you examine the flamethrowers visually on the show, they look
	well built for their intended purpose.  It is not my impression
	that they were jury-rigged like some of the other equipment.
	I believe that that was solely what Dallas referred to as the 
	"weapons".  There was no debate made as to their feasibility or
	not, so apparently, he was not mentioning any compromising
	weaponry.  Flamethrowers make good standard-issue weaponry
	for a starship because they have a good effectiveness without
	compromising the ship's structure and without fear of ricochets.



					- Rob
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Woman in For Your Eyes Only
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:19:19 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

What other films has Carol Bouquet (sp?) (the crossbow lady) of
For Your Eyes Only been in?  I seem to remember her in Bunuel's
The Obscure Object of Desire but I'm not sure.  Anything else?
--

Curt Tsui            
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From: bailey@emunix.emich.edu (Grand Moff Tarkin)
Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove - last line ???
Organization: Detroit Institue of Criminal Arts and Sciences
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:12:24 GMT

>
> For the ending I got the dialog, but I cant figure out exactly what
> the Soviet Ambassador is operating when he goes off to the side. Is
> this some kind of transmitter or a detonator? Is he helping blow up the
> world right from the War-room?
>
> Another trivial note: The B-52 that drops the bombs had something inscribed
> on the back of each. Something like "Hi Bob!" or something, dont remember
> off hand.  Does anybody know the significance of this?
>
The Soviet Ambassador is holding a camera and taking pictures of the big
board.


The bombs say, Hi There and Dear John.  Probably just friendly messages
before blowing targets to bits.


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From: hypes@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Gary Hypes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Re: Night of the Hunter (actually remakes)
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:30:23 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID


1) What do others think of this film?

A great film; magnificent and somewhat rare. Almost never made available
to late-night TV. A real treat; special performances by all concerned.
Yes, a chilling performance by Mitchum, the way his character turns.
Many, many memorable scenes that stay with you long after you've seen
the movie. Among my favorites (besides those already quoted): the
camera/light work when the kids are hiding in the barn loft and Mitchum
rides aross the horizon visible through the barn door; and best, the
scene where Gish stays up all night with the shotgun on her lap, softly
singing a hymn, and Mitchum sits on the fencepost outside singing a song
in counterpoint. Wow!!!

An off-beat, astonishing line in the film: when Mitchum's preacher and
the widow are courting, the old friendly neighbor (man) makes an
innuendo about sex, and his wife mutters something like "I don't see
what's so exciting, I just lay there and think about my canning." For a
film in those days, that's a shocker.

2) Why is the film called "The Night of the Hunter"? I could see no
significance.

The scripture reference provided by another respondent is probably the
best answer. I'd have to re-see the movie to check, but the Lilian Gish
character may quote that scripture at one point.

3) Has Laughton directed anything else?

No! This was his one and only directing effort, believe it or not. As I
recall, the film went over-budget, and the studios never trusted him
with another film. Incredible; this was avant-garde, creative stuff. A
great loss.

4) Was this the first film to have a character with the now cliched
"LOVE" tattooed on one knuckle, "HATE" tattooed on the other?

Don't know; probably.

5) I have seen a remake in the local video shop starring Donald
Sutherland. Has anyone seen it? Is it worth renting?

   As others responded, this is not with Sutherland, this remake was
   with Richard Chamberlain. By all accounts, a major disappointment;
   I'm told that they eliminate the visually compelling, eerie shots of
   the mother's body floating in the water by having Chamberlains
   character just knock her out and push the car into the river or some
   such. Other changes I heard made me angry. That's just stupid; I'd
   far rather see a well-done remake faithful to the original than a
   poorly done re-make with some original ideas in it.

   Not against remakes in and of themselves; the classic Hitchcock "The
   Man Who Knew Too Much" with James Stewart was better than his own
   first version with Peter Lorre. Likewise some versions of "Hunchback
   of Notre Dame", "Hound of the Baskervilles", "Phantom of the Opera",
   etc. But honestly, most remakes are bad derivatives. (For fun, see
   Gene Wilder(?)'s "The Last Remake of Beau Geste", an intentional
   spoof of remakes. It was a hoot.)

Happy viewing! "Night of the Hunter" is a very special treat well worth
waiting for.

- Gary Hypes -
From: jgp@zodmate.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: INFO on TWIN PEAKS
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:55:36 GMT

lf0v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louis Anthony Faassen) writes:

>My simple question: when is the Twin Peaks movie "Fire Walk With Me"
>scheduled to be realeased?  Anyone got a simple answer(even though I
>really enjoy long, complicated, in-depth responses.  

August 28.  (See newsgroup alt.tv.twin-peaks for all the details.)

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From: yurkon@rudolf.nscl.msu.edu (John Yurkon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Big Blue
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:12:29 GMT
Reply-To: yurkon@msunscl.bitnet (John Yurkon)
Organization: National Superconducting Cyclotron Laboratory

I have serveral questions about "The Big Blue".

	1.  Was it originally filmed in English or French?
	2.  Are there differences in the endings of the French and English version?
	3.  What does the ending in the English version mean?  Does
	he die, did he get transformed into a dolphin or is he just taking a swim?
	4.  Would his father had died if he had not paniced?  It seemed like
they could
	have just pulled him up.

	John
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From: mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox)
Subject: Re: neuromancer & jim cam
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 05:03:49 GMT

"eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:

>PJF>        BTW, no Linda Hamilton would not make a good Molly.  She's far too
>PJF>old, Molly is younger and more of a combo of Street Smart, "book" Intelligen

>     I've always felt that Rebecca De Mornay could make a good Molly,
>     based on her sly, knowing performance in "Risky Business."

what about Daryl Hannah?  Ok, maybe it's a throwback to Bladerunner but
try and imagine her with mirror shades and finger razors...

Fox

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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch review (spoiler!!!)
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:53:57 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)



SPOILER AHEAD...
















   As far as I am aware, the film Naked Lunch is not a straight forward
film treatment of the Burroughs book (could there be such a thing??!).
It is rather a mixture of events in the book and Burroughs' real life
(as he perceived it I assume!) experiences during the writing of the
book. No doubt real experts will correct me if I am wrong on this: but
assuming Peter Weller's character is interchangable as representing
Burroughs himself as well as the main character in the novel (forget
name?) this makes sense. For example, Burrough's accidental shooting of
his wife is fact, not fiction.

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From: rlm@Hudson.Stanford.EDU (Robert L. Miller)
Subject:  Re: Delicatessen 
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:44:35 GMT

"Delicatessen" was splendid.  Quirky story, fascinating characters,
exceptional cinematography.

Does anyone know Terry Gilliam's(sp?) connection to the film?
The opening credits state "Terry Gilliam presents," which 
suggests he was a producer.. or perhaps came on board to help
exhibit/distribute the film abroad.

Robert Miller

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From: caruso@socrates.umd.edu (John Caruso)
Subject: Patriot Games/Alien/Nicholas Nickleby
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:12:34 GMT


     I finally got out to see Patriot Games, and during one of the tense
moments late in the film I was very surprised to hear the theme music
from Alien.  It was immediately familiar, but I couldn't place it...then
I remembered that it was the music that accompanied the exterior shots
of the Nostromo.  It was well-suited to that scene in Patriot Games, but
a bit jarring considering the antecedent!

     I was also surprised to see David Threlfall as Inspector Highland.
I haven't seen him at all since he played Smike opposite Roger Rees in
the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of Nicholas Nickleby.  He
gave an excellent performance in that play, and I've always wondered what
became of him...without the pale makeup, he bears an absolutely uncanny
resemblance to Eric Idle.  Hopefully this part will earn him some more
prominent roles.

     For anyone (like me) who still hasn't seen the film and wonders
if they should or not, I recommend it highly.  It's not a classic by
any means, but it's well made and suspenseful, with good performances
by the leads and the supporting cast.  IMHO, the best mainstream film
that's been released this summer, and well worth full price.

- John
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From: ssave@ole.cdac.com (Shailendra Save)
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Organization: Cascade Design Automation, Bellevue, WA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:06:09 GMT

In article <2178458@overmind.citadel> wente.llnl.gov!ed@overmind.mind.org writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.142537.26463@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) 
>writes:
><ed@wente.llnl.gov Ed Suranyi writes:
><>So here are my favorites:
><>West Side Story -- Not only is this my favorite musical, but it's one of
><>Leonard Bernstein's music still thrills me, and Maria's speech at the 
><>end of the movie always leaves me in tears.


  My fair lady.  My all time best musical.
  Sound of music.  I still like the tunes.

  -S
  ssave@ole.cdac.com
From: seiffe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Erica Seiffert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:05:15 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Jul22.183435.21145@ll.mit.edu> urbano@ll.mit.edu (John Urbano) writes:
>
> Two of my favorite musicals of all time are Yankee Doodle Dandee
> and 1776.
			YES! YES! How could I have forgotten 1776!
		I discovered quite by accident on 4th of July 1990 and 
		it was the best 4th of July afternoon I'd spent in a LOOONG
		time. While some of the cast wasn't particularly spectacular
		the music was great and story was wonderful. I never found
		John Adams such an interesting character before.

		"Sit DOWN John! SIT DOWN!"	
	

		ems
		*****
		I don't speak for my employers and they don't speak for me.


>
> YDD is a classic, I just saw it yesterday for the first time in about
> 6 years.  Unfortunately they colorized it, and didn't do a very good 
> job.  Thank god that colorization has no effect on the music.
>
> 1776 does not seem to have a large following, but I don't understand
> why.  
>
> Let's hear some opinions on these two great musical.
>
> John
>
>-- 
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?   The Shadow...
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Great Brain
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:33:47 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Jul30.004537.8714@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, stame@emunix.emich.edu 
(Stewart Tame) writes:

>>Several years ago, I remember hearing that the children's
>>book series "The Great Brain" would be made into a movie.
>>Anyone know anything about it?
 
> I dimly recall a Disney movie adapting the first book or so being made.  I
> know I saw a few ads on TV for it anyway . . . 

Maybe Merchant-Ivory will tackle it.  They do a good job of literary 
adaptations.  :^)

Greg Bole                               "When you wake up, wipe the slugs off
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             your face.  Be ready for a new day!"
                                        Keanu Reeves in _My Own Private Idaho_
From: etjue@lbl.gov (Eric T. Jue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: HEATHERS: Some interesting Tidbits
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:26:45 GMT
Organization: LBL
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.95
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

I have a copy of the original script for "Heathers" written by Daniel
Waters.  It is quite different from the final shooting script.  One
interesting difference is that in the original script, Heather Duke reads
from "Catcher in the Rye" by J.D. Salinger instead of "Moby Dick."  In
addition, J.D. quotes lines from "Catcher in the Rye" instead of "Moby
Dick."  I wonder why they changed this small part in the film?  Also, did
you know that Drew Barrymore was almost cast over Winona Ryder?  What are
your thoughts?  Remember...real life sucks losers dry...
From: zytnia@daimi.aau.dk (Christian Vands| Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Help - The Thing.
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:18:03 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

I've just seen John Carpenters "The Thing". What a great movie, BUT I have
this little problem. I don't know how it ends, 'coz the fu**ing video broke
the tape! So - what happens in the last 5 min. of the movie?

I prefer Email.

zytnia@daimi.aau.dk
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:14:41 GMT

In article <5621@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at>, mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
> From article <Brw6Kz.2F7@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>, by uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann):
> > It's about as incredible there as the Thing from Another World.
> 
> Quite.
> 
> > You'd need pico- or femtotechnology. 
> 
> Where's the difference?  Nanotechnology is a buzzword, not a specific
> degree of miniaturization.  You can rest assured that at the level of
> resolution available on film, you won't see the difference.

Frankly, I'm curious as to how anyone would be able to debate the
technical details of a technology they said was impossible.

Sounds like someone is making a basic assumption of something fantastic
existing, and then extrapolating from that suspension of disbelief.

Sort of like seeing a movie and suspending disbelief for some aspect
and then enjoying it anyway.

Sort of...

Get the point?


G("Lack of a Liquid Guy Does Not a Movie Make.")MS
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: MGM (was: Myths or Movies? (Evil Dead 3, X-MEN))
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:53:13 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

> There are only three studios in serious trouble - MGM/UA, Orion, and
> Carolco.  Of these, only MGM/UA is a major, long time player, and they
> are sort of in the least trouble of the three, as best as I can tell. 

Whoever owns the MGM name is licensing it out for some *very* strange
purposes.  I saw an MGM *car stereo case* for sale the other day -- the
box had the MGM lion on it, the whole bit.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"If you can't feel the rhythm, don't dance."
From: yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REVIEW: COOL WORLD
Date: 28 Jul 92 05:19:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: LLNL_LIS

In article <1992Jul24.141636.3164@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>,(Mark R. Leeper) writes:
> 
>                                  COOL WORLD
>    - The title has *got* to be a joke.  This is the ugliest and most uncool
>      world I can imagine.  
                         [stuff deleted]
>    - I give it a -1 on the -4 to +4 scale.
> 
> 					Mark R. Leeper

 Mark,
  Why such a high rating, for such a low movie?

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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:18:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Jul23.161827.8982
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Mindy Wallis writes:

>Equally pernicious in my mind is the recent tendency to put
>singers in musicals and then not letting them sing.  For
>example, Jim Nabors in _Best Little Whorehouse in Texas_
>or Mandy Patinkin in _Yentl_.   

I agree completely about Patinkin, who is one of the best
actors/singers of this generation, whether he's on stage or
on the screen. God forbid that Streisand let someone else with
talent sing is a musical that she directs/producers/acts in, etc.
After seeing Patinkin in the phenomenal _Sunday in the Park with
George_ and buying both of his performance CDs, it is clear that
his beautiful tenor voice is one of the things most missing in    
_Yentl_.


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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From: KJOHNSSON@finabo.abo.fi (Kim-Erik Johnsson INF)
Subject: Cronenberg's Crimes of the Future
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:31:56 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20


Anybody know anything about an early David Cronenberg film called Crimes of the
Future?!?

Thanks,


				Kim


P.S. Oh, by the way, every time I tape a movie off TV, I can't help but to
think about how nice it would be to have the 'original' cover for it...wouldn't
it be nice to have an ftp-site for videofilm-covers?!? :-)

  nhn          Kim Johnsson, CS @ ]bo Akademi                 That
s(. .)s             Luostarinkatu 6 B 11                   thing down 
 K o J                  20700 Turku                       there is the
   O                      Finland                    movie quote of the day
"Awwwww maaw!"
       - Melvin the Mop Boy, The Toxic Avenger
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