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   From: "karim rahemat" <karim.rahemat@canrem.com>
   Reply-To: "karim rahemat" <karim.rahemat@canrem.com>
   Organization: Canada Remote Systems
   Distribution: rec
   Date: 5 Nov 92 17:22:47 EST
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   Hi guyz,


   I wonder if there is a engine techie amongst you people.   I have a major 
   problem with my vehicle and I need a solution to this problem fast.  
   Yesterday I was driving a friend home from my house.  While driving the 
   car started to slow down.  It did not shudder, jerk or increase in power 
   when I floored it.  from 50 mph to 35 in 7 seconds the car would just keep 
   slowing down by the time it hit 27 mph the car just died without saying 
   goodbye.  I tried to start the car again but it would just turn over 
   and not start at all and I did not want to drain the battery.  I found 
   this extremely annoying (curse, swear all that stuff) so I decided to find 
   what the problem was.

   My car being a CHRYSLER CRAP (86 LeBaron GTS 2.5L non-turbo) having a 
   semi-fuel injected system consisting of one main injector, throttle body 
   and the electronics of the normal fuel injections systems found today. I 
   tried to find out what error codes the ECM was holding.  Finding that the 
   ECM was holding a CODE 14 which meant to me that the M.A.P. Sensor 
   electrical system was faulty.  I removed the sensor and tried to start the 
   car again. Same thing again.  The night being cold and it was late at 
   night I decided to call CAA and have the Vehicle towed.  Today I'm having 
   the assumption that thats not all that went with the car (money, grief). 
   The vehicle is allways kept in a good or above average state with 
   maintaince and all, clean too.

   Almost every part in the engine relating to the fuel injection has been 
   replaced except the power module and the Logic Control Module.  Well 
   anyway off hunting I go!  All suggestions and advices will be greatly 
   appriecated and if someone would hand me a shot gun, just in case that too 
   will be apprieciated.

   thanx

   karim rahemat

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On my '86 2.5L Daytona I had the same symptons. The distributor's pick
(hall field pickup?) failed. To diagose the problem, I took a logic
probe and tapped in to the output of the distributor at the computer
and watched it as I drove. The hi-voltage indicator did not flash when
the pickup failed (I forget if it was the logical '1'). The only thing
difference in my case is that I get no error codes in the computer when this
happens. The computer just think that you stalled out like in a manual
transmission. Do you still get an error code after you reset the
computer by unplugging the battery and run the car.
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Grumman Data Systems                                  Woodbury, New York 11797
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Grumman Data Systems                                  Woodbury, New York 11797
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