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From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: Info AOL
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:05:05 GMT

In article <fmlin.2q10@terapin.com> fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:
>GEnie was pretty cool, but the only ( and a major! ) complain I have is the
>system's speed.  It's slow as hell!!  Why?

	I have/had that problem too.  Basically, what I've done is
changed the times at which I call.

	I now call right around 7pm est (if possible), or really late
at night.  Genie crashed on me for the first time...  no major, and
it should be fixed soon.

>frank m. lin


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: Apple Profile Drive information
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:01:24 GMT

>From: clark@cerl.uiuc.edu (Mike Clark)
>Subject: Apple Profile Drive information
 
The original Profile was 5 MB. Later versions were 10 MB. They had a custom
card that needs to be upgraded to work with GS/OS.
 
>I want to use them on a mac
 
I don't think that is possible.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

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From: lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel)
Subject: Re: Wish list for FAX software on the GS
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:00:21 GMT

Richard - more .02 from eme... ref color Fax.  I think it would depend on
the degree of difficulty involved in coding.  If it's not THAT big a deal,
I'd say stick it in release 1 - that way you'd be WAY ahead of al lthe other
fax software from the beginning, and they'd be playing catch-up.

I think color fax is definately a coming thing, and it would be nice to
be able tosay (again) My computer can do something yours can't - well, for 
now, anyway.

On the other hand, if it's a real pain to code... yeah, let it sit for
rev 2.


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From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: deskjet 500 & 500c drivers
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:16:47 GMT


Hey, Dan Brown, quit spreading mis-information.

I have seen several colored print outs at my local user group that were
created on a Deskjet 500C using the print driver for the 500C supplied by
Vitesse's Harmonie.

I presume that means that Harmonie contains a print driver for the 500C.
Unless the guys who showed me the colored print outs that they said they
created using the DeskJet 500C Harmonie driver were just making it up. If
they were just making it up, they did a pretty good job of convincing me...

(Sarcasm mode off)

Joe Kohn
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 Reliability
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:17:16 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Dec 13 92 at 22:41:06 (EST)

> From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
> Is it just me, or is System 6.0 an awfully flaky system?
[more details deleted]
> Who knows...maybe soniqTRACKER is causing some problems (and it's used
> more than the other software), but that still doesn't explain the
> Finder's seeming lack of reliability.  Any clues?

I'd say it is either you or soniqTRACKER. I do seem to recall that the few
times I used soniqTRACKER (or Modzap), the system usually crashed not long
afterwards (but rarely within those apps). 
 
I use several GS's running System 6.0 and rarely have crashes (except for ones
caused when I make a programming mistake :)
 
Most times my computers are setup running Pointless 2.0, several of Bill
Tudor's Finder Extensions, AWGS, Finder, Prosel, ProTerm and AmericaOnline. 

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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: re-entrant programs
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:54:18 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: arrester.caltech.edu

behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:

>>	o What are some examples of re-entrant software?

>Unix kernals. 

Not really. The depths of the kernel usually are not reentrant, in order to
simplify things so the O/S is finished and out the door quicker. One notorious
violation is Sun NFS, which hogs the machine anytime it feels like it. You need
a fast SPARC (2 or later) and lots of memory or else NFS bogs the machine down
big time. I use an IPC with 8 megs at work, and anything I run often I copy to
the local disk. It makes a big difference.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: todd@zbt.sw.stratus.com (Todd Joseph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple ][ typing program
Summary: need a good Apple ][ typing program...
Keywords: Apple ][, typing
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:05:21 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: zbt.sw.stratus.com


Hi,

I'm looking for a good typing program for an Apple ][.  I'd like to
get shareware, but I'm willing to buy one if someone knows a good one.
Thanks for any help.

-Todd

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: meekins@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: Attn Michael Henitz (ab20 mods)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:27:49 GMT

In article <Bz44wp.Mv7@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>In article <SKNKWRKS.92Dec11115732@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu> sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
>>In article <Bz2zqM.JB5@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>>>Ian, who doesn't understand why everyone's so hot over soniqTracker :)
>>
>>Hate to burst your bubble...but could it be that soniqTracker offers
>>more faithful reproduction of MODs?  I tried running one of the MODs
>>on my system (CYBER.MOD) past MODZap and...well, the results weren't
>>exactly the best in the world.  (Specifically, some of the voices were
>>way off-key and the glide function overshot quite a bit.)
>
>This is a known bug.  People I trust have had this fixed for months.
>FYI, faithful doesn't mean anything unless compared to an Amiga.  Tim's never
>seen/used one.  I have :)

We have an Amiga 2000 at work...I wasn't impressed to say the least.

I need to stress that soniqTracker is planned to be a music player
on its own merit and design and is not intended to be a simple
"mod player" that mimics every idiosyncrosy of the Amiga. In fact,
limiting a product in such a way doesn't take advantage of the
full potential of the GS. soniqTracker is/will be a stand-alone music
program which happens to a darn good (about 95%) job at -importing-
mods. Until I've finished the editor, soniqTracker doesn't have much
of a use except for listening to mods, and as soniqTracker evolves I can't 
ever promise exact duplication of mods. soniqTracker .6 already
has several improvements on the mod and my current working vesion
has several more extensions, resuling in higher quality output than
Amiga mods, though no longer "exactly" the same. I feel the quality
gained outweighs the small differences.

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From: st1dr@rosie.uh.edu (Frankfort, David C.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SCSI drive troubles
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:06 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec15.163515.576@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu>, cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (RANDY) writes..>guy who sold it says my software can't handle Quantum drives, and I need to
>try it on a Mac. I'm starting to think the drive is toast. Any ideas? Kindly
>reply rather than following up as I want to get it going ASAP.
>--
>Randy
>cxd14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Try having the drive low level formatted.  This generally does the trick  also
check that the ids for seagate and quantum and scsi card are different.  Also
the terminator is at the end  of the chain.
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From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Send/Receive FAX Modems for GS
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:34:59 GMT
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall) writes...
> 
> On a related note, I am curious as to what faxmodems people with GS's out
> there have.

    I'm using a SupraFaxModem v.32bis.

> Also, I would like some input as to what the apple community would like to
> see in a fax program.  Currently I am planning on a device driver that will
> be used to send faxes from any GS program that supports the print manager,
> and probably an NDA to recieve faxes.

    A fax driver which looks and acts like a printer driver would be, IMHO,
the only rational way to implement the sendfax.  I would also like to see a
simple utility which will let you quickly open $C1 and APF graphics, text
files and AppleWorks WP files and send them off.  This would save the
trouble of running a full-blown application just to send a couple of faxes.

    An application version of the receive fax NDA would be nice too, in
case the NDA conflicts with something already in the System folder.

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From: treesh@bach.helios.nd.edu (carey treesh)
Subject: Using Apple Disk II on Mac Lc Emulation cards?
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:56:26 GMT

I am not a member of this news group, so I would prefer an answer in email
if anyone can help me out.

Im looking to find out if one can use the old DISK ][ units (with the 
ribbon cable) the Mac IIlc with the 2e emulation card?  I can not seem
to locate the needed adapter.

Thanks.

ctfm
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  Standard File Dialogs and Controls
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:57:19 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

John MacLean is frustrated with...
>EditLine controls [in] a standard file (save) dialog?

Forget it... can't be done... blah blah... :)

Seriously, this has been a problem since the world was new, etc.
The EditLine never gets actual characters (A..F) because the SF
list steals them quite flawlessly... You _can_ get numbers though,
(or could pre-6.0 which was the last time I had it almost working)
but that's almost useless.  Dave can come out with a bunch of real
reasons why this doesn't work... most notably is the fact that the
SF stuff still relies heavily on the Dialog Manager while some of
the neat controls are (really) extended (read 5.0+) controls that
are handled specially within SF... all SFP stuff still has to fall
within the Dialog Manager limitations.

Marc Wolfgram
AOL: M Wolfgram   GEnie: M.WOLFGRAM2   inet: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com
There are two ways to write bug-free code and only the third one works!
From: Brendan_Hoar@notes.pw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: comp-sys-apple2 & you
Date: 13 Dec 1992 12:17:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


In response to EVERYONE:
> blah blah blah
> blah blah blah blah.
> blah blah!

Thanks for all the wasted time.

Now can we get back to some forward looking stuff?  Like bugging Jawaid about 
Switch-IT!

Jawaid - wheres the darn press release??? :)  (And dont take that literally.)
From: nagendra@csa.bu.edu (nagendra mishr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Wanted:  Code to use GS comm ports
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:25:57 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department


I remember a long time ago, someone was working on providing a toolbox
to use the GS's ports 1 and 2 to open connections and revieve
connetion.

I was wondering if anyone had working code which used the comm ports.

It does not matter what language it is in, C / Pascal, Assebmly, Lisp (!)


I'm interested in writing a terminal emulator.

Thanks

Nagendra

nagendra@csa.bu.edu
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II Networks
Date: 21 Dec 1992 02:01:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


There is another network called IIE Net. I don't know if they have any systems
in California, I only know of 2, one is in Texas and the other is in Tenn.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Subject: Re: GEnieLamp December 1992
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:28:28 GMT

pbauer@athena.mit.edu (Paul H Bauer) writes:

>In article <1992Dec9.205418.20312@zip.eecs.umich.edu> grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
>>And a lot of people don't necessarily have access to the binaries
>>group either.  I think it would be best if GEnieLamp was left intact
>>as a 'normal text' posting right here.

>I would like to second that motion.

Well, if you don't have access to c.binaries.a2, do you have FTP
access?  All the binaries postings are archived at several FTP sites,
including plains.nodak.edu, wuarchive.wustl.edu, and cco.caltech.edu.
Perhaps a separate directory could be set up at one of the sites for
GEnieLamp.

The reason GEnieLamp (GL) will continue to be posted to c.b.a2 as
opposed to c.s.a2 is that it takes up just slightly over half the
space.  (If we were allowed to post the edited version, meaning all
the dumb little GEnie Quik Quotes and other fluff is gone, then I
would still post it to c.s.a2).  The problem is that some sites don't
have a lot of disk space and Shrinking GL and posting it to c.b.a2
solves that problem.

The other solution if you don't have FTP access is to use ftp-mail.
I'm not sure how it works since I have the privilege of FTP access,
but there should be newsgroups or informed people on this group who
can fill you in on the details.  I'm trying to accomodate everyone
with GL postings but some of the requests are mutually exclusive so I
have to choose the ones that benefit the most people.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: deskjet 500 & 500c drivers
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:53:39 GMT

Seven Hills sells Independence and Vitesse sells Harmonie.
I believe Vitesse is working on supporting the 500C.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu (till tomorrow)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: IDE Drives
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:43:55 GMT

stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:

>	Using a SCSI cable should be possible, if the wires are wired
>properly on both ends.  This may mean some wire swapping etc.  But its
>much easier to find SCSI cables than say and external IDE drive
>connector.
[IDE drive in SCSI case]
>	Yeah, that would be ideal, except then it would take some
>bucks to get the cables made.  Maybe if the 40 pins could be condensed
>into 25, and you a straight through db25....

Ungh. Why the effort? The card comes with a cable (so ok, it's a ribbon
cable), put the one end on your dirve in the case, and the other end on
your card. Voila', you are all set.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: pbauer@athena.mit.edu (Paul H Bauer)
Subject: Re: Turbo IDE Card description
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:51:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.181147.3239@news.columbia.edu> stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.134016.8827@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:
>>In article <la46828@pro-cajun.cts.com> sysadm@pro-cajun.cts.com (System Administrator) writes:
>>>Nice specs, why is it important to specify which machine (//e or //gs) when
>>>you order the card.  I own both and would hope that the card is
>>>interchangeable between machines like the Apple Rev C., DMA SCSI cards are.
>>
>>The ROM on the card is highly optimized for maximum throughput, using 65816
>>commands in the GS version. You can order both ROMs (if I recall correctly,
>>a ROM costs $10), so if you want to swap machines (which you don't do every
>>day normally, anyway ;), you just exchange the ROM and that's it.
>
>	Although, in theory, you should be able to use the //e version
>in both machines.  That way, you wouldn't have to swap ROM chips.
>
>	Soenke, you should get Joachim to test it, but it should work.
>
	Does this mean it is going to have problems with a 2e with the 
zip 8000 or a GS with a TW or Zip card? If we have any other hardware 
configuration are we going to have to get special ROM's for these???

	pbauer


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From: radracer@pro-acsd.cts.com (Chantha Lueung)
Subject: Re: Apple Storm
Organization: ProLine [pro-acsd] Apple Corps of San Diego
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 02:35:29 PDT

i have a palnn to take apple back. lets get evry one name on a list then
write a letter, and send in all the names that has been collected

chantha lueung
(pro acsd)
"words without action is death"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:41:57 GMT

A A DeGuzman writes
> >	Thats not my point. My point was that people brag about how a machine  
> >has XX program and YY program, like Mathematica. Mathematica costs nearly  
> >$1,000 or FrameMaker costs nearly as much.
> 
> For the record, the Enhanced Version of Mathematica for the Macintosh costs
> $795.00. The Student and Standard Versions (no math coprocessor required)
> costs about $200.

	True, but I was going for what the "average" user has to pay for. Not  
exceptions like students, which tend to get discounts on a lot of goodies. :)

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From: meekins@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: Attn Michael Henitz (ab20 mods)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:40:26 GMT

In article <Bz4KF0.B7L@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.014336.11529@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:
>
>>Honestly, let's not start a war over who has the better mod player.  Both
>>soniqTRACKER and MODZap have strong points.  I just happen to like the
>>stereo mixing that soniqTRACKER offers.  I guess Ian didn't offer it
>>because everybody would then think he copied the idea from soniqTRACKER.
>
>Actually James Brookes was discussing it with me as a feature for MODZap, and
>all the sudden sT had it...coincidence or what? :)  MZ does have stereo mixing,
>what the hell version are you guys using anyway? :)

oohh...just taken slightly out of context, eh?? :)

I was present most of the times James was repeatedly suggesting to you
to add mixing. You told him it wasn't worth it and wouldn't do it.
At this time, James began to ask me about it, and once I realized
what he was asking for, I knew it would be a nice feature, plus my
code would be able to support with little additional work, so I
quickly threw it in. modzap had plenty of opportunity to do mixing
before sT ever did.

>
>>	Just my two cents,
>>		...Mike
>  
>   My $120 (GNO's suggested retail price, dontcha know ;)
>

huh? doesn't make a whole lot of sense......

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: System 6.0 Reliability
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
	<1992Dec12.042041.27824@colorado.edu>
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:59:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.042041.27824@colorado.edu> hartkopf@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jeff Hartkopf) writes:
>I have similar problems with System 6.  Applications (especially the 
>Finder) crash often, and occasionally I get corrupted files.  Sometimes 
>I'm working in the Finder and suddenly lots of files appear to have 
>weird names with strange characters in them.  When this happens if I reboot
>immediately usually the system is back to normal.

That sounds an awful lot like what's happening to me...especially
files in the Finder with oddball names.  I'm thinking of getting
System 6 from ftp.apple.com (the copy I'm using now came from a local
user group) to see if that one works any better.

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From: diff@comtch.spk.wa.us (Rick Diffley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: where do I get Operating systems updates?
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:14:10 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington


 >>> OS Upgrades?
 
Checkout any local Apple II User's Group that is offically registered
with Apple Computer, Inc.  Too, any BBS that's connected (registered)
with an Apple II User's Group may provide system upgrades in their
library (per written agreement with Apple).
 
= Diff = {GEnie...R.Diffley}
 

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