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From: Creed Erickson <creed@blowfish.taligent.com>
Subject: Re: tell me i'm wrong (braindead design in os2)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A73429F31E02C1D4@kip-18.taligent.com>
X-Xxdate: Sat, 21 Nov 92 02:01:23 GMT
Organization: Taligent Inc.
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:01:17 GMT

In article <By33u3.CvC@eis.calstate.edu> Charlotte Wilder,
cwilder@eis.calstate.edu writes:
>Uh, is it just me, or does the fact that an operating system which has
>case retentive filenames but is not case sensitive to those same
filenames
>bother you as well?  This isn't just OS/2, but Windows NT as well.  My
>opinion is that this is incredibly stupid.  Why would anyone want to
bother
>naming a file "Foo" instead of "fOO" if the operating system can't
>differentiate between the two?  If the difference in those filenames
confuses
>you, I suggest you go back to the all too secure and primitive world of
>MS/LOSS.

Might I suggest you study some of the cognitive issues here. File names
are for people (including clerks, management dweebs, temporaries, and
pedestrians).  To most people "Stop", "stop", "sTOP"  and "STOP" all
have the same semantics despite the variations in the syntatic tokens.
IMHO it is openly hostile for a system to allow syntatic detail such as
letter case distinctions to alter the semantic definition of the file.

>And another thing... OS/2 seems to me like a 32bit MS/PC DOS... almost
>identicle except for the fact that OS/2 has built in multitasking
abilities.
>Isn't that kinda stupid?  Shouldn't we be trying to get away from the
>droll of MS/DOS and try to get into a more modular, usable, and yet
powerful
>operating system?  Windows NT attempts to breach some of the real borders
>of DOS, but isn't that great, yet.
>
>Personally, I think I'll wait until the fanciful release of OS/2 v3.0,
>when IBM gets a REAL kernel into there, Mach.  Hopefully they won't
>disable case sensitivity to filenames as a "feature".  If you want those
>kinds of features, get a Mac.

In any micro-kernel architecture I'm familiar with, the filesystem is
independent of the kernel.  I would seriously doubt that the presence
of an underlying Mach  kernel would have and any effect on the OS/2
view of HPFS or FAT file systems.

Actually, I do have a Mac (and OS/2, UNIX, and DOS). I personally find
my UNIX box, with it's small file name size (14 characters) and
inability to accept spaces in a file name, to be second only to DOS
in tiresomeness of file naming capabilities.

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Creed Erickson
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:09:44 EST
From: Erik Rubin <EJR106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: help w/ SpeedStar24x


  Hello.  I recently put a Diamond SpeedStar 24X into my system, which I use
for OS/2 and MS-DOS.

  The MS DOS section works fine, including the included Windows 24 bit drivers
and such.  Therefore, I know that the card works fine.

  The OS/2 PM also works fine, but if I call certain programs (such as WinOS,
and certain picture viewers, some games, and other graphics intensive
software), I get nothing but colorful snow on the monitor (IBM 8513).
I can hit Ctrl-Esc to get a task list back in PM and kill the task.  However,
as it stands, I cannot run any Windows things on OS/2, along with several
other graphics oriented programs.
  I think I have a driver problem.  I have studied the online help extensively,
but I do not know what to do about this problem.  My old card, and Oak VGA
w/ 512K, did not present these problems.
  If anyone knows what I am doing wrong, please let me know.  Thanks.


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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) (OS/2)
Subject: Re: Paradise says it is not working on 2.0 video drivers
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:20:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.221226.23795@athena.mit.edu> mrhagger@athena.mit.edu (Michael R Haggerty) writes:
>I too have an SVGA card with a WD chipset, so I decided to give them a call
>to lobby for drivers.  Well, the guy on the line said that they are not
>working on the drivers (as already reported), but he insisted that they were
>"in close communication with IBM" and that IBM is writing drivers for the
>Paradise card.  I questioned him again because I've seen other claims that
>this isn't true, but he stuck to his story.  Can anyone help disentangle this
>riddle?

Can't help here.

>Also, I looked for the vga800-1 "generic" SVGA driver on ftp-os2, and couldn't
>find anything with a name like that.  Whoever knows, please verify that it
>exists and let us know where to find it.

site:  ftp-os2.nmsu.edu
dir:   /pub/uploads
file:  vga800-1.zip

I installed the 800x600x16 for my wd90C31 a few days ago.  So far, no
bugs except maximized windows return to normal when returning from a
full screen, and OS/2 full screen is out-of-synch.  I need to do a
MODE CO132 or something like that.  DOS full screen is not affected.
I don't know if this is a bug but my window fonts are fat again.  I
like the skinny fonts that the SP gave me.

No crashes with this driver either, except when I forgot to SVGA ON
before rebooting the new driver.

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: A neophyte asks: Can you get rid of Windows?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:32:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.82712.6469@ms.uky.edu> jedwards@ms.uky.edu (Jonathan Edwards) writes:
>>>>I don't know how OS/2 runs Windows programs.  I don't really care
>>>>either.  If you are not interested in Windows, can the
>>>>emulation/whatever be removed.  How much diskspace does this save?
>>>When you install, you have the option not to install Windows support.
>>>Presumably it can be removed after it has been installed, but I'm 
>>>not sure how to do that...
>>Deleting the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 directory and subdirectories below should do
>>the trick.
>I don't think so.  Won't there be resources (icons, etc.) in some .INI
>or system file somewhere that simply deleting the directory won't clean
>up?

Not particularly.  Shred the Win-OS/2 Full Screen program object and
you're done.  (You might want to modify your AUTOEXEC.BAT to make sure
that the Win-OS/2 PATH is no longer listed.)

You end up saving 3 or 4 MB, as I recall.

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From: richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel)
Subject: Re: TE/2 vt100 emulation problem
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
	<1992Nov17.214304.6169@grebyn.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:56:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.214304.6169@grebyn.com> mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli) writes:

>   In article <1992Nov16.014807.1726@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> kbass@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Bass) writes:
>   >In article <9309@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum) writes:
>   >>Until last week, I was running Procomm's vt100 emulation under MSDOS
>   >>across a 2400 baud modem. This week it's TE/2's vt100 emulation under
>   >>OS/2 across a v.32bis modem. Everything works as advertised, except for
>   >>a serious problem with screen redraws in vi. Can anyone help?
>   >>
>   >>The specifics are that parts of the screen are often (but not always)
>   >>blacked out as I move across them (either with cursor movement or when
>   >>entering text). The area affected seems to be from the left margin to a
>   >
>   >I have the same problem using Telix for DOS under OS/2. I am also using
>   >Ultrix 4.1. I dont know what the answer is.
>   >
>   I see the same problem with TE/2 connecting to an Ultrix 3.0 machine.
>   It also sometimes loses my linefeeds, so I wind up typing a line over
>   the previous line.  However, as you say, if I hit CTRL-L, everything is
>   there.

I traced this to an incorrect interpretation of the TAB character.
TAB was being used by emacs (and vi) to optimize cursor motion.  A
VT100 TAB only moves the cursor, but TE/2 incorrectly blanks the
characters which the TAB moves across.  I was told that a later
version of COMMPAK.DLL corrects this, but I fixed it by telling unix
"stty tab3", which says "my terminal doesn't support hardware tabs and
could they be expanded to spaces, please?"
-- 
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OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
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From: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Floppies under "Boot from A:" window
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:18:56 GMT

The floppy response in GA. 2.0 seems very erratic, requiring multiple tries
to read a directory, etc. Is there a patch?

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From: matcsp@nuscc.nus.sg (Chan Shih-Ping)
Subject: Needed: US 800 number for DAP CD-ROM
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:18:59 GMT

Subject says all - please e-mail. Thanks!
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From: cleslie@ho11.eng.ua.edu (Charles J. Leslie)
Subject: Editors
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:32:41 GMT

Hello everybody,  

      Is there any good editors for OS/2 that will let me take section
out of a file and save it to another file?  The editor should be able
to handle large files.  meg + 


Thanks

P.S.  It must be user-friendly for someone who doesn't know much about
         computers.


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From: gouvea@zariski.harvard.edu (Fernando Gouvea)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Image Toolkit
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:06:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov17.170639.17542
Organization: Colby College Dept. of Math/CS

Several recent programs posted to ftp-os2 and elsewhere require the image
toolkit from the PDK CD-ROM. I have the CD, but don't have access to it
from OS/2. I think I found the image toolkit files (in \slpt\toolkit)...but
how do I install them?



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From: rommel@jonas.gold.sub.org (Kai Uwe Rommel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: COM port with more than 19200 Baud possible?
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 20:48:03 MET
Organization: Private

In article <721857591marten.marten@feki.toppoint.de> marten@feki.toppoint.de (Marten Feldtmann) writes:
>Just a question: is it practically possible to use the com-1 port with
>more than 19200 Baud (I know I can set the Baudrate to max. 57600)
>without getting too much errors .... of course the 16550AFN would be
>installed ... and normally working with the system. Perhaps running a
>compiler like C/Set2 as an application beside it .....

Using a 16550AFN and HW handshaking, I frequently run an UUCP link
over a V.32bis modem with the port rate set to 19200 while doing other
nontrivial tasks, such as running compilers. I did never loose
characters because of running the compilers at the same time.

BTW, it really shouldn't make a difference if you use 19200 or 38400,
for example, when your modem runs at 14400. The V.42bis compression
doesn't increase throughput for compressed files (which are normally
sent over UUCP links or ZMODEM downloads).

Kai Uwe Rommel

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DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Missing country.??? in config.sys Help!!!
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:41:57 GMT

In article <4769@moscom.com> jtn@moscom.com (John Nielsen) writes:
>Help!! I just bought a future domain tmc-860 to replace my segate
>st-01 scsi control adapter and now I can't boot os2.  I keep
>getting an error message when I boot that says, "fix the problem
>and reboot." Why can't it find my country.??? file like it used to?
>Any Information as fast as possible would be greatly appreciated.
>I'm not sure if I should bring the card back and would like to 
>Know soon. Future domains tech support was no help! The card
>works fine when I boot in dos.

Did you just remove the ST-01 and install the Future Domain, and
expect it to boot up?  The Future Domain requires a specific driver to
come up with OS/2, so you'll probably want to reinstall OS/2.  That's
not going to be too difficult.

If I'm missing something, please repost.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tedc@ee.ubc.ca (ted chen)
Subject: Re: win-os2/ATI mouse problems sort of fixed!!!
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:01:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.083153.18099@dragon.acadiau.ca> 880506s@dragon.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner) writes:
>stimpy@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
>
>>For those of you running the ATI Graphics Ultra and the SPP 8514/a drivers
>>from IBM, I bet you've noticed you mouse either gone, or flickering in
>>win-os2 sessions.....
>
>>Well, set the IDLE_SENSITIVITY to 100, and it will help the situation out.
>>My mouse was not gone, but flickering. Doing the above, made it flicker 
>>less, but the mouse will still disappear every so often.
>
>
>Installing ATI's windows drivers will also improve the situation DRAMATICALLY.
>I no longer need to bost up the IDLE_SENSITIVITY after installing the drivers..
>

I figure these are ATI's Mach8 drivers and not just 8514/a drivers.  Are
these drivers available on ftp-os2? If not, where can I get them?

Are they faster than the default 8514/a drivers?

---
Ted Chen      <tedc@ee.ubc.ca>
From: ekim@pyuxe.uucp (25853-confenti)
Subject: Re: DOS *VERY* unstable after CSD
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:57:08 GMT




help,,,,,I just bit the bullet and upgraded to a 486/25
well now i'am starting to have some major prblems.
first off i'am running with six megs. ram esdi disk and other
asst. cards. 
my system runs quite well (at least did) now intermintly
when i try to open a dos window i get the - message not enuogh storage
to complete your request and when i shutdown the system starts to shutdown
and then stops  the only way i can get this to stop is to (alt+f1) when rebotting but ofcourse this resets my desktop to the defualt.
I did notice that i had download 2 cpuload type programs and ran them right before the problem started each time (this has happened twice)
other than this problem OS/2 is great haveing been useing dos/win since it came out anyway i need to get this fix so any hints,help or comments would be welcome thanks mike confenti

C
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From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: [.] and [..] keep showing up in root directory
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:11:51 GMT

lion@dat1hb.north.de (Daniel Tietze) writes:

>Hi, everyone!
>I am experiencing a wierd behaviour with OS/2 (CSD installed).
>After running GhostScript (and watching it crash the system) I had two
>entries in my root directory of drive C: . and .. , the latter being
>not accessible ("the directory you have specified is not available").
>My drive worked OK apart from that, and nothing else was influenced or
>even trashed (not like some other postings I haveread in this newsgroup).
>Yesterday I went throught the ordeal of backing up my DOS and OS/2 stuff
>and reinstalling the system, even fiddling with the partitions. After
>having reinstalled OS/2 (no service pack, no other apps) I had these
>two entries AGAIN!
>I formatted both the DOS and the OS/2 (HPFS) partition before installing the
>system. Can anyone tell me why these two useless entries showed up again?

>My disk setup before reinstalling: Boot Manager, 1st primary partition
>OS/2, 2nd primary partition: OS/2 (HPFS), and an extended FAT partition.

>My disk setup after reinstalling: Boot Manager, 1st primary partition
>DOS, extended partition OS/2 (HPFS) and extended FAT partition.

>Can anyone analyse this behaviour and tell me what I have to do to get
>rid of the entries . and .. ? Note: Everything works OK, both systems
>boot without any trouble, having OS/2 on an extended partition gives me
>access to the DOS partition. Reinstalling the OS/2 doesn't seem to be the
>solution (as stated above).

These are supposed to be there. I'm not sure what you did to make them
visible, but they were always there. The single dot "." is for the directory
information, and the double dot ".." has information on the parent directory.
For the root directory there is no parent.

Thats why specifying "." in a command such as "copy b: ." gives you the
current directory. Specifying ".." such as "cd .." gives you the parent
directory.

I would suspect you just changed the atributes on these from hidden to
normal, which would explain why they are showing up in you directory.

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From: gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Paradise says it is not working on 2.0 video drivers
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:42:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc11.gershon.722133740
 <TAIPALE.92Nov17091332@node_40515.kiloapo.tele.nokia.fi> <1992Nov17.185539.2851@midway.uchicago.edu>

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>Newsflash: you can have 800x600-16 colors with Paradise/Western
>Digital (except the recent accelerated models), Trident,
>Video7/Headland, ATI VGAWonder, etc.  Get the file vga800-1.zip,
>available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, directory
>/pub/uploads right now (it could be moved).  This is a "generic"
>800x600-16 driver which works just fine.  So now you can have your
>cake and eat it too.

I *have* one of those new accelerated cards (WD90C31 chipset). Does this
mean it won't work?
                                                     --Ethan Gershon
                                                       gershon@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Found a wierd bug
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:24:55 GMT

I think I have found a bug in OS/2, and am wondering what the proper way to
report it to IBM would be.  Before I do so, however, I would appreciate if
you all would try this also...

The swapfile grows and shrinks OK most of the time (now that I have removed
the background BMP I had installed).  Interestingly enough, however, it
will grow and not shrink, if I do certain graphics-related things.  I know this
is vague, but it is what I found.  For example, opening a ghostscript window
and displaying a ps file will grow the swapfile and never let it shrink again.
Similarly, opening Corel Draw 2.5 and displaying drawings grows the swapfile
unshrinkably.  The wierdest thing of all, hever, is if I open up a copy or
sirtet (the tetris clone available via anonymous FTP at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in 
the pub/os2/all/games directory) and RESIZE it's window repeatedly to 
different sizes, like real thin and tall, and then real wide and short etc,
the swapfile starts growing...WITHOUT shrinking...ever.  I got my swapfile
from 4096 up to 8192 JUST by opening sirtet and playing with the window
size.  I was not running ANYTHING else at all.  I am now almost sure that
OS/2 loses fragments of memory anytime it does graphics related (screen
related?) operations and forgets to reclaim them.  This also explains why
having a background BMP open causes the swapfile to grow exponentially.  I'd
appreciate if you all could play around with this and tell me what happens.

Incidentally, I am running Dinfo to keep a running tab on the swapfile.  I
suggest to do the same...
From: groenvel@brown.crayola.cs.psu.edu (John D Groenveld)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: copying to more than 1 disk
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:55:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bxuu8w.n3J
Distribution: na
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

When I try to drag a large directory onto my disk icon, I get an error when
the disk fills. Is there anyway to make os2 ask for another disk as ms-windows
does? I ended up using windows filemanager, but felt kind of stupid loading 3.1
just to copy a directory to disks.
Thanks
John
From: mike.frisch@canrem.com (mike frisch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: scsi & ide
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:15:03 GMT
Reply-To: "mike frisch" <mike.frisch@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


TFS> If you do spend the money on an Adaptec, you might as well get a SCSI
TFS> hard disk and leave behind IDE.

     I am considering an upgrade to SCSI for my system as well.  I plan
on adding a CD-ROM and tape backup unit to my system and eventually a
larger hard drive.  For the time being, can I get by using an IDE hard
drive in conjunction with the SCSI controller for the CD-ROM?  I am
planning on the Adaptec 1542 if that makes a difference.

     Much thanks for your assistance in advance.

Mike.

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