HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de
Subject: Re: bathrooms - the German style
Followup-To: soc.culture.british
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:28:03 GMT

In article <2343@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, mxsst1+@pitt.edu (Michael Stroucken) writes:
> In article <1993Jan16.133559.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>>complaint. Or perhaps they don't like the idea of it vanishing
>>before they have had a chance to be quite sure that they really
>>want to reject it. I wonder that they don't go the whole hog and
>>video the entire event. Who knows? Maybe they do. Whatever the
>>explanation for this national predilection, I can quite see why it
>>hasn't caught on elsewhere.
>>Laurence
> 
> 	You really are one sick piece of shit, dick!
> 
> MS
> -- 
> 		Morgens einmal, mittags zweimal, nachts sooft es geht!
> Internet: mxsst1@pitt.edu,       Anonymously: wi.6194@n7kbt.rain.com        :)

Another intellectual fan of German origin, living now in God's own country.

Laurence
From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Philips (was Re: British phones in France)
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1993Jan22.140657.23075@gssec.bt.co.uk> fbowles@gssec.bt.co.uk (Frank K Bowles) writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.151755.22209@pixel.kodak.com>, dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>|> 
>|> I think you mean 'the buroo', Glaswegian (and Geordie) for 'the dole'.  
>|> Seven months on brew would tend to reduce your chances of ever working 
>|> again....  
>|> 
>The word is brew.  Even in Glasgow we don't actually write in phonetics...
>
>
No it's no - it's buroo!

>(I'm not sure of the origin - perhaps it was because unemployed people
>once spent a lot of time in the pub?  Enlightenment anyone?)

It is derived from "Bureau" ( of Employment?)

M

-- 
Morna Findlay 					JANET:morna@uk.ac.ed.dcs 
	Thanksgiving For a National Victory (Robert Burns)
Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for murther.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: seperate hot and cold water taps in the UK
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:23:48 GMT

Frank K Bowles writes:
>Nadine Smith writes:
>|> 
>|> 	Could someone please tell a confused American (no jokes, please!)
>|> 	why the hot and cold water taps are seperate in the UK?
>|> 	And why if there is only one faucet is the hot and cold
>|> 	water kept seperate until it comes out of the tap? 
>|> 				Thanks,
>|> 					Nadine Smith
>|> 					nmsmith@bio.indiana.edu
>
>
>Could someone please tell me WHY Americans are so fascinated with
>plumbing and why so much of the bandwidth on this newsgroup has been
>discussing bathrooms?
>
>rec.waterworks or alt.sewage anyone?

Can someone near Frank give him a hand with his newsreader?
There are some features in it he may want to learn to use, and he
seems unable to find out by himself.

As for Nadine and her question, I couldn't care less, but I
have noticed that a number of people do (at least enough to
post followups) and that a fair few of these people are posting from 
.uk sites.

Have a Nice Day Frank,

sue

Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:19178 soc.culture.celtic:8848
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Robert Burns Dinners
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:19:50 GMT
	<1993Jan20.135643.15090@st-andrews.ac.uk>
	<C15uBG.EKE@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> <1993Jan21.131326.19429@gssec.bt.co.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <1993Jan21.131326.19429@gssec.bt.co.uk> cwilson@gssec.bt.co.uk (Colin Wilson) writes:

   |>   Sin a tha "Uisge Bheatha"!  Nach e "Whiskey" no "Whisky".  De/an e
   |> ceart!
   |> 
   |> mn

   Been watching "Speaking our Language", have we?

Naahh, they haven't got on to whisky yet.  So far we can introduce ourselves,
ask how we are ("very well, thank you"), talk about the weather, and say
"come in".  It all seems very *British*, somehow :-)
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: cwilson@gssec.bt.co.uk (Colin Wilson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Robert Burns Dinners
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:53:14 GMT
Organization: BT

In article <727738627snz@cwsoft.demon.co.uk>, colin@cwsoft.demon.co.uk (Colin Wilson) [NO RELATION!] writes:
|> 
|> Although haggis, neeps and tatties (turnip/swede and potatoes) is now
|> traditionally associated with Burns it is unlikely that Burns ever saw or
|> tasted "neeps".  The turnip or swede was only introduced into Scotland
|> in the early 18th century. 

As Burns was born in 1759, it's very likely that he saw them, even if he
and other people weren't yet in the habit of eating them.
 
|> -- 
|> +--------------------------+
|> | Colin Wilson             |
|> | CW Software Ltd          |
|> | colin@cwsoft.demon.co.uk |
|> | +44 (606) 74778          |
|> +--------------------------+

What are you doing stealing my name?   (noises of indignation)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sasmym@angelou.unx.sas.com (Marilyn Miller)
Subject: British Sitcoms, etc.
Originator: sasmym@angelou.unx.sas.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:41:31 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


I have become "hooked" on some of the British sitcoms which are shown on
our local PBS affiliate.  The two we see right now are "Good Neighbors"
and "Are You Being Served?"  The cast members of these programs are so 
delightful and I am curious to know if any of them still appear on British
TV--my favorites are Penelope Keith, Paul Eddington, Felicity Kendall,
Richard Briers, John Inman, and Molly Sugden.  You would be surprised how
popular these programs are here--as a matter of fact our local PBS station
offers "Are You Being Served?" t-shirts and coffee mugs.  I am constantly
surprised at the number of people I meet who watch them--even the younger
people consider it the "in" thing to do.  So, if there is a TV Trivia
person out there who can enlighten me.  .  


Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Philips (was Re: British phones in France)
Organization: Morituri Te Salutent, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:46:48 GMT

Frank K Bowles (fbowles@gssec.bt.co.uk) wrote:
> In article <1993Jan18.151755.22209@pixel.kodak.com>, dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
> |> Ray Dunn (ray@philmtl.philips.ca) wrote:
> |> > 
> |> > [No, although I connect through a Philips site, I don't work for Philips.
> |> > Like thousands of others though, I _used_ to work for Philips.  After seven
> |> > months on the brew, I recently started working again]
> |> 
> |> I think you mean 'the buroo', Glaswegian (and Geordie) for 'the dole'.  
> |> Seven months on brew would tend to reduce your chances of ever working 
> |> again....  
> |> 
> 
> 
> The word is brew.  Even in Glasgow we don't actually write in phonetics...
> 
Tell that to the Sunday Post.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: bathrooms - the German style
Organization: Morituri Te Salutent, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:31:01 GMT

godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de wrote:
> In article <2343@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, mxsst1+@pitt.edu (Michael Stroucken) writes:
> > In article <1993Jan16.133559.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
> >>complaint. Or perhaps they don't like the idea of it vanishing
> >>before they have had a chance to be quite sure that they really
> >>want to reject it. I wonder that they don't go the whole hog and
> >>video the entire event. Who knows? Maybe they do. Whatever the
> >>explanation for this national predilection, I can quite see why it
> >>hasn't caught on elsewhere.
> >>Laurence
> > 
> > 	You really are one sick piece of shit, dick!
> > 
> > MS
> > -- 
> > 		Morgens einmal, mittags zweimal, nachts sooft es geht!
> > Internet: mxsst1@pitt.edu,       Anonymously: wi.6194@n7kbt.rain.com        :)
> 
> Another intellectual fan of German origin, living now in God's own country.
> 
> Laurence
> 
I can see I chose the wrong time to take Laurence out of my kill file.....

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From: gl_a214@titan.kingston.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: The Battle of Maldon
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:11:11 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamara.king.ac.uk

Hiya - I'm interested in the colonization of Britain in the Dark Ages. I was
reading about one of the few times that the Anglo - Saxons actually managed to
repel a Viking raid - the Battle of Maldon in 991AD.
I dunno if anyone offhand knows any books featuring this battle as the main
subject...but what the hell....it's worth a try...

    Mind must be mightier, heart the fiercer,
    Courage the greater, as our strength lessens.
    Here lies our lord, cut down in battle.
    Hero in the dust. Long will he mourn.
    Who thinks to dodge this battle - play
    I am an old man now; I shall not go from here.
    By the side of my lord I mean to lie.
    Lie in the dust with the man I loved.

     - Byrhtwold, 991AD - Battle of Maldon,Essex...



Steve Wade
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
From: rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis)
Subject: Re: Back from the UK
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:13:13 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>>>But what if someone's scrubbing pots in the kitchen sink?
>>
>>You really want to be awkward about this, don't you.  Well,
>>two possibilities spring to mind.  1) Wipe your hands on your
>>jeans and forget it, you were obviously not meant to wash your
>>hands  2) go use the outside tap.

a) *My* parents taught me not to pee on my hands.
b) Doesn't anyone consider it important to wash their hands before using
the toilet?
From: fbowles@gssec.bt.co.uk (Frank K Bowles)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: British Sitcoms, etc.
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:24:36 GMT
Organization: BT

In article <C19nt8.Isx@unx.sas.com>, sasmym@angelou.unx.sas.com (Marilyn Miller) writes:
|> 
|> I have become "hooked" on some of the British sitcoms which are shown on
|> our local PBS affiliate.  The two we see right now are "Good Neighbors"
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                                        I hardly think there's
                                                         a British sitcom with
                                                       this spelling abomination
                                                       for a title.


|> and "Are You Being Served?"  

Frank

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From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Charles's DNA tested to prove not illigitimate
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:42:04 GMT

In article <C194vH.1w8@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>
>  Prince Charles entire claim to his future job (King of UK plc)
>rests on the assumption that he is the legitimate child of the
>Queen.
>
>   we can assume his mother really is Elizabeth, but we have no
>proof that Phillip is his biological father.  Well the technology
>now exists (DNA testing) to provide this proof SO SHOULDN'T IT
>BE USED.

	The technologies have been available for a loooooooooooong
	time.  It's called blood group typing.  Unless the legendary
	"Bombay phenotype" occurs it's a piece of cake and doesn't
	need all the gadgetry required for VNTR typing.  The afore-
	mentioned Indian irregularity can be checked providing all those
	involved can spit.


>
>    Or could it be that DNA testing which (I have read) is considered
>good enough to be used on immigrants to prove they really are the
>children of British Critizens,  is not really that accurate???????

	Depending exactly which test they're using there can be
	artefacts, especially if it's a PCR method which is singularly
	unforgiving of contaminants and most demanding of care by
	the practitioners.  It is more accurate than blood typing
	and has some advantages for bulk screening but I think a
	number of cases based on such evidence have been succesfully
	challenged in the U.S.  I remember one case where the lab.
	had been horribly sloppy.  Three blood bags and a nurse from
	the national blood transfusion service should be just as accurate
	in this case.

	Alec.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Subject: Re: Philips (was Re: British phones in France)
Organization: Not Philips.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:33:18 GMT

In refd article, cwilson@gssec.bt.co.uk (Colin Wilson) writes:
>ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn) writes:
>|> (Let's not argue about the spelling of dialect words)
>
>I don't understand this. All forms of language are dialect, and all words are
>dialect.

You're right, in one meaning of "dialect".  The other meaning is "form of
language with non-standard vocabulary, pronunciation and idioms".

You're not saying that there's a definitive dictionary of standard Scots
(whatever that means) spelling are you?  That we _should_ be arguing about
it? 

The CSD doesn't help, and it certainly contradicts your opinion on the
"preferred spelling" of brew, broo, buroo, burou or whatever.

Considering that Scots itself is so regionally variant I'm not sure there's
any validity in attempting to define preferred spellings.
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
From: heidi@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (Heidi de Wet)
Subject: Re: Back from the UK
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 07:07:19 GMT
Organization: Dept of Elec Eng, UCT

meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Meach) writes:
>In article <TSOS.270.727950382@uni-duesseldorf.de> TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert) writes:
>>In article <C1C3CC.HGL@demon.co.uk> gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>>
>>>In article <C1C17o.29A@ecf.toronto.edu> pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN) writes:
>>>:>But isn't "hello" just a contraction of "how the hell are ya"?
>>>:  No.  It's a contraction of "God be with you."

That's "goodbye" you're thinking of.  Then there's "bloody" from "By
our Lady", and my personal favourite: "Zounds!" from "God's wounds".

>>>In case anyone doesn't realise this is a joke, hello is derived
>>>from an old word used to call hounds.

I read somewhere it was coined as a term to be used on the telephone - 
presumably everyone just used "How d'y' do" until then.  I suppose "How
do you do" sounds too ridiculous when you haven't even established who
you're talking to :-)  It derives both from "halloo" (hounds) and from 
the French.

-- 
The net is like a vast sea of lutefisk with tiny dinosaur brains embedded 
in it here and there. Any given spoonful will likely have an IQ of 1, but 
occasional spoonfuls may have an IQ more than six times that!
                                                     - James 'Kibo' Parry
From: oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: succession
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:59:56 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin
Originator: oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu

So how many people are really on the list?  Who is bottom of the list?
I assume it doesn't continue to the loyal subjix arranged alphabetically.

Royally yourn,

Derek Wills 
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, 
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: Charles's DNA tested to prove not illigitimate
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:41:22 GMT

quelch@ibms7.scri.fsu.edu (Geoffrey Quelch) writes:
: In article <1993Jan25.211333.15955@ttinews.tti.com> jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson) writes:
: >
: >Apparently the kings and would-be kings did lead their
: >gangs/armies into battle and take the chance of being slit up. Question:
: >who was the first English monarch not to lead the English army in person?
: >
: >Dick
: 
: The last King to lead his troops in battle was George II at Dettingen
: (1743). Of course this isn't a direct answer to the question because
: presumably some earlier Kings may not have had any battles to lead troops
: in. My vote therefore goes to George III as the first King not to lead
: his troops in battle.

Mmm, but that wan't the question, was it? The word used was "monarch"
Did Mary Tudor lead her troops?

Richard Pennell, History NUS
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:19520 soc.culture.usa:10192
From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: US and European crime rates
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:31:07 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1993Jan23.021726.20056@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:

>In article <1ja89mINNapk@lindy.Stanford.EDU> jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU
>(Jon Corelis) writes:
>>If America had European-style social welfare programs,
>>supported by European-style progressive taxation programs, to provide
>>European-style health, education, unemployment, and family leave and
>>support programs, along with European-style gun control laws, then
>>America would also have European-style crime rates.
>
>Fortunately, the majority of people here don't WANT Yurrupean style
>social welfare, tax and gun control laws...
>

Unfortunately we may get it whether we want it or not.  And when
we do, it will doubtless be much worse - less efficient, and more
oppressive than it is in Europe and (yes even) the U.K.

Gerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
From: mossop@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Antony Mossop)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Have a nice day!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:00:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <bemj1-210193171027@coxsorangepippin.cl.cam.ac.uk> bemj1@cl.cam.ac.uk (Bernie Jones) writes:
>In article <CAH.93Jan21145806@fat-controller.cs.bham.ac.uk>,
>cah@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ceri Hopkins) wrote:
>> 
>> To start another thread. How anyone can put up with the impersonal
>> "Have a nice day" without screaming back "Go f*ck yourself"/"Do you
>> know me?"/"Do you really care?", I'll never know.  How can there be
>> any sincerity wrapped up in this throwaway expression? Answers
>> required to (i) how prevalent this is, (ii) what net-people think
>> of the practice? (iii) examples from Britain.
>> 
>
>My pet hate in this country is when Burger King staff say "You got it"
>after
>I have placed an order - it works nicely as an ad slogan, but to have it
>yelled at me all the time in East Anglian or London accents seems a bit
>off.
>Yet it's company policy (no doubt from the US HQ!) and I'm sure the staff
>don't like it.
>I went there the other day and happened to be served by the assistant 
>manager. I placed my order and said "And please don't say 'You got it'".
>The grin and look of relief convinced me that they hate saying it too - so
>why are franchises in other countries forced to implement these 
>Americanisms? Sometimes the thought of it annoys me so much that I don't
>go in the place at all! - and I'm sure that most other people in the
>country
>aren't over keen on it either. Maybe some letters to Corporate HQ are in
>order....
>
>--
>Bernie Jones            (0)223-335478             bernie.jones@cl.cam.ac.uk
>U of Cambridge Computer Laboratory, Pembroke Street, Cambridge, CB2 3QG, GB

A short reply:
Burger King belong to Grand Metropolitan which is an ostensibly
British combine.


Tony Mossop, geophysics, Stanford
From: fbowles@gssec.bt.co.uk (Frank K Bowles)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Daily Sport
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:39:32 GMT
Organization: BT

In article <llot1tINNco@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
|> This American is amazed that a country that sets such high
|> standards in TV and radio broadcasting can stoop to such
|> lows when it comes to daily newspapers.
|> 


May I commend to you "Eldorado" and The Independent?

Frank
 
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