HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: berman@nlm.nih.gov (Lew Berman)
Subject: Sparc-10 : ipcs -a?
Reply-To: berman@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:52:18 GMT


I have a sparc 10 model 30 and when I type  'ipcs -a' I get the following message:

IPC status from whistler as of Thu Nov 12 08:48:09 1992
Message Queue facility not in system.
Shared Memory facility not in system.
Semaphore facility not in system.

Since we will be using semaphores in some of our applications what do I need to do to 
get all of these facilities started up?

Please respond directly to me at berman@nlm.nih.gov


Thanks,

Lew Berman
National Library of Medicine
From: casey@gauss.llnl.gov (Casey Leedom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: A comment from the left ...
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:23:41 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory


  I received three very cogent replies to my comment regarding Sun's
commitment to Open Systems and standards.

  One poster noted that it was somewhat unfair of me to compare Sun OS
4.1.1 -- an operating system a year and a half old -- to the latest
operating systems from SGI and IBM.  Quite right.  Sorry, I haven't been
able to keep up with Sun products in the last year or so, so I didn't
realize that Sun OS 4.1.1 was as old as it is.  I'll have to talk to the
people who run the system I'm using.

  Also, I incorrectly claimed that Sun OS 4.1.1 wasn't POSIX compliant.
(Well, it may not be completely 1003.1 compliant, but I haven't gotten
far enough in compiling my software to see what facilities are present.
It's at least got the manual pages and header files for POSIX 1003.1
signal facilities.)  This is 100% my fault for not checking more
thoroughly before blasting away at Pnews.

  Another poster asked if SGI and IBM bundle their compilers with their
systems.  I can't say anything about IBM's systems because I'm just a
user of a system that I ported my software to.  SGI does unbundle its
compiler and doesn't provide *any* compiler in the stock system.

  That second poster also asked if ``get GCC'' wasn't an available
choice.  As I responded to him:

    Well, I'd like to port to the stock platform.  I hate it
    when I get software that demands that all sorts of other
    software be installed first and I assume others dislike
    that as well.  (Yes, I know.  Many people already have GCC
    installed so it's not a big thing.)  In any case, that only
    addresses the ANSI C compatibility.  I was worried about
    the POSIX support too and I think your letter (and one from
    someone at Sun) addresses that issue: I'm working on an old
    Sun OS (4.1.1) platform.  Apparently later versions of Sun
    OS do have some degree of POSIX support.

And I followed with:

    As for unbundling the compiler completely, I think that I'd
    prefer that.  As it stands now I think that the toy K&R
    compiler introduces more porting difficulties and confusion
    than it's worth.  Because the SGI compiler is unbundled and
    there's only one SGI C compiler, there's no question about
    what's meant when one talks about porting a piece of C code
    to the SGI (other than the standard OS/Development system
    release versions support of course).

  Thanks for all of the replies.  As usual, I opened my mouth without
fully investigating the situation enough.  Thanks especially to the
those who replied for not flaming my incorrect statements and giving me a
chance to correct them myself.

  And the answer to my original quandary of what to do about porting my
software to the Sun platform?  I'll simply port it to the ANSI C
development environment and ignore the stock K&R environment.

Casey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: berman@nlm.nih.gov (Lew Berman)
Subject: SparcServer 670MP or 690MP
Reply-To: berman@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:56:58 GMT

Are you thinking of purchasing one of these machines with the idea
that you will be able to move your VME bus card directly to this
platform?  Think again!  We have tried for 2 months now to move our Megascan
9u framebuffer and videobuffer to these platforms without success.  SUN
has been little help and for that matter megascan has been of less help.
Let the buyer beware.  You may have success where we have had problems
but check with SUN and your VME board manufacturer to make sure that
the board will work on the platform you move to.

Lew Berman
National Library of Medicine
From: bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Newbie Q: Using xmkmf w/ OpenView
Date: 5 Nov 1992 09:26:53 -0600
Organization: Cafe Limbo
Reply-To: bin@primate.wisc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: uakari.primate.wisc.edu

From article <1992Nov5.075948.3792@ericsson.se>, by etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon):
> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
> [...]
> |> (And yes, both "imake" and "xmkmf" come from the MIT X11 distribution;
> |> that's where Sun got them.)
>
> Not quite, the Sun OW3.0 xmkmf is based upon the X11R5 xmkmf but it
> includes a check to see if OPENWINHOME is defined. Unfortunately they
> left off the -I so it doesn't work.

I believe they also broke imake to make it difficult to specify
where you want to look for configuration files, if you don't want
to look in OPENWINHOME/config.  You can get around this by setting
the IMAKEINCLUDE environment variable to -Iwhere/you/want/to/look,
but that's a hack.  It makes configuration depend on something hidden
in the environment (defeating one of the purposes of imake -- to make
configuration explicit), and it makes it more difficult to switch
between sets of configuration files.
-- 
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dubois@primate.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric)
Subject: Screen resolution & xdpyinfo
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:46:31 GMT

HELP!

My Sun SPARCstation IPX has a 16" screen which means 100 dpi resolution,
but xdpyinfo insists on reporting 83 dpi (suitable for a 19" screen).  I've
scanned all of the manuals in Sun's "AnswerBook", but there is no mention
of how one tells xnews server what is the screen's physical resolution.

Does anyone know HOW Sun's implementation of Xwindows decides what the
resolution of a screen is?  I'd really like to fix this.

Josip
<josip@skylab.src.umd.edu>

Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:5187 comp.sys.sun.admin:8117 comp.sys.sun.hardware:5443
From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP! SparcPrinter refuses to print <<<< SOLUTION >>>>
Keywords: sparcprinter problem ipx newsprint
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:48:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

I can't explain it, but when I upgraded to OW 3.0 my SparPrinter stopped
working too.

The solution I found was to use the "small_openwin" that is provided with
newsprint.  There seems to be some incompatability with OW 3.0 that affects
only th printer.

bill

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From: D.Hines@daresbury.ac.uk (Dave Hines)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Changing the beep sound on a SparcStation ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:49:27 GMT
Reply-To: D.Hines@uk.ac.daresbury
Organization: SERC Daresbury Laboratory, Warrington, UK

Hi there,
      A trivial little question - Is is possible to change the beep sound made
by a SparcStation when a control-G is interptered by a terminal emulator such
as cmdtool running under xnews ?  Just a change in pitch would be useful. The
reason for wanting to do this is that I share an office with someone who has a
similar SparcStation, and when one of them beeps, neither of us can tell which
machine it was.
Thanks,
    Dave Hines.
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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: TCP-IP implemented in Streams ?
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:41:17 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>     Is there anybody who knows that if the TCP/IP of Sun O.S. Release 4.1.1 
>  is implemented in Streams mechanism ?

The TCP/IP in 4.1.1 is implemented atop the traditional BSD networking
framework, not atop STREAMS.  There is a TLI implementation in SunOS
4.1[.x]; the TLI part is STREAMS-based, but it just plugs into the
sockets-based TCP (not UDP) implementation.

The TCP/IP in SunOS 5.x *is* STREAMS-based.
From: narad@nonsequitur.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck Narad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SUN Sparc1 VME bus
Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:33:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: narad@nonsequitur.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: nonsequitur

In article 1755@ifi.unizh.ch, maffeis@ifi.unizh.ch (Silvano Maffeis) writes:
>Hi all!
>
>How fast is the VME bus in a SUN sparc 1?
>Suppose I have two special purpose cards in separate slots, one for
>external data acquisition and another for data processing. How fast can
>I transfer data from one card to the other over the VME bus?
>
>regards,
>Martin
>-- 
>Silvano Maffeis       CS Dept. University of Zurich, Switzerland
>   RFC822: maffeis@ifi.unizh.ch            voice: +411 257 43 27
>   X.400: /S=maffeis/OU=ifi/O=unizh/PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/


Very slow :-)    Sparcstation 1 doesn't have a VMEbus, it only
has SBus.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: maffeis@ifi.unizh.ch (Silvano Maffeis)
Subject: Directly accessing the graphics board of my Sparc?
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.misc
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 06:56:48 GMT

Hello!

Can somebody out there provide me with short C examples demonstrating
how I can directly access the graphics processor in my
Sparc? I would like to program simple graphics (dot, line)
by circumventing any windowing software.

Please e-mail. Thank you!
silvano
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   RFC822: maffeis@ifi.unizh.ch            voice: +411 257 43 27
   X.400: /S=maffeis/OU=ifi/O=unizh/PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,princeton.sun,triangle.sun
From: krt@cbnews.cb.att.com (kenneth.r.tishenkel)
Subject: Help!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:29:31 GMT
Followup-To: poster

I would like to know if anyone has used "DECathena" and what they
they think about it ? 
 
DECathena: Services for Open Systems Distributed Computing. 
A Powerful New Technology for implementing and Managing the Distributed UNIX 
Workstation Environment.  
 
 
We are moving our development to a SUN network, and are                         
looking for a software/hardware package to manage our large 
distributed UNIX SUN workstations.
 
Can you recommend any other packages? 


Please reply with EMAIL.


      Ken Tishenkel
      AT&T Bell Laboratories
      Columbus, Ohio.
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: MAJERCIK@UCSVAX (ANDREW M MAJERCIK)
Subject: Assembly Language
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Distribution: local,world
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:20:53 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


Hi,


  I'm looking or a few good books on assembly language for the
 sun sparcstations.  Does anyone know where I can get one?  Or
 even if they exist?  Maybe someone can email me one!

  Thankyou much,

 andrew

 Please send responses to 

   majercik@rabbit.cs.umass.edu

Thanks!
From: efroyman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Ella Froyman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: X11 release 4
Keywords: X11,sun
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:31:24 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University


Hi netters;
    I need some help on how to compile X11 release 4 on a sparc 2.
Any ideas or suggestions will be helpful
Ella
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: the phone jack on my IPC...
Date: 4 Nov 92 16:37:07 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <TERRY.92Nov2182303@nambe.santafe.edu> terry@nambe.santafe.edu (Terry Jones) writes:
<
<what can i do with the phone jack that i see lying on the floor that
<originates in my IPC?
<
<is there code somewhere that lets me automatically dial a number?

Huh?  Are your IPCs different than my IPCs?  The IPC doesn't have a phone jack.
Please tell us which port on the back of the IPC this "jack" goes to.
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From: censjg@caledonias3.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Simon Greaves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SS-2 GX connector pinout?
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:12:38 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

I have a Sony 19" colour monitor I'd like to connect to a Sun colour framebuffer. I looked at the connector on our SS-2 here at work, and it has a large D-type connector with three coaxial connectors and 8 ordinary pins. 

My monitor has 5 BNC connectors, RGB plus H and V syncs. I need to know what the pins on the Sun framebuffer are used for, I've seen a cable that has the sun connector on one end and 5 BNC's on the other, but the company wanted over 100 UKpounds for it (~US$ 160!).

Anyone know the pinout, or where I can get it, please email me,

Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: norman@netsys.com (Norman Gillaspie)
Subject: Re: Turning a 386i into a "real" PC
Organization: Netsys Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:35:34 GMT

daveh@picard.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dave Hitchcock SE - Cincinnati Office ) writes:

>Is there a ROM BIOS upgrade to taek a 386i and make 
>it a "real" 386 DOS machine?


>What about the SCSI disk drives.  Do most major ROM BIOS 
>manufacturer support SCSI?

>Dave Hitchcock


I would like to know this info also.

	norman gillaspie

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From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Help needed in sunview programming
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:30:51 GMT
Organization: cic

wuy@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (ACS) writes:

>Hi, I need help on the Sunview programming.

>Question: I try to build a three layers menu for a
>          sunview application.

I suggest you drop SunView *immediately* and convert
to XView. You are writing a dead application. SunView
development will not be supported by Solaris 2.0 and later.
Backward compatibility will go away some time later.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:5265 comp.sys.dec:5968 comp.windows.open-look:4510
From: charles@sunup.Sun.COM (Charles Ditzel - SE Sun Seattle 206-889-1328)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: OpenLook apps on DECstation. (warning: FLAMES)
Date: 14 Nov 1992 21:52:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunup.west.sun.com
Keywords: olwm DEC Open Look


Instead of runing olwm remotely ... you might want to get
the DECstation version of XView that resides on :
	media-lab.media.mit.edu
as : 
	xview3-ultrix.4.2-mips.tar.Z


Hope this helps,
Charles
From: fontana@disuns2.epfl.ch (Pierre Fontana)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: HELP: SCSI - Initiator AND Target
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:10:54 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

I come back with the same question I posted a few days ago:

     Does the SCSI driver of the SUNs implement the full SCSI
     protocol (including the ability to act alternatively as
     an initiator and as a target) ?

If you have worked with Asynchronous Event Notification (AEN), you
have most probably looked into it (the target becomes the initiator
to send the data to the master, as they arrive).

So far, I got two opposite answers:

According to cummings@falcon.natinst.com, the SUN driver CANNOT be
used as a target.

According to root@di.epfl.ch,
> Le premier avis que je t'ai donne via l'intermediaire de Sun etait
> faux. Apres de plus ample recherche, il s'avere que c'est possible.
> Sun suivant totalement la norme SCSI. De plus les gens de chez Sun
> ont vu passes des news la dessus. Il y a eu entre autre des essais
> de relier deux stations via le bus SCSI. Helas, ils n'ont pas stocke
> l'information, mais ces news ont passe soit sur la conference 
> comp.sys.sun.hardware ou comp.sys.sun.misc. En posant la question sur
> celle-ci, il y a de forte chance que tu ailles une reponses.

(After further investigations, it looks like it is possible, as SUN
 fully implements the SCSI norm. People from SUN read news about it,
 but did not store them...)

     If you remember about those news, please mail me or re-post them.

I need to get an answer, as it would be very interesting to use this
feature, if it is available.


Thank's for mailing me your answers, I'll post a summary of them.

Pierre Fontana

E-MAIL: fontana@disuns2.epfl.ch  or  fontana@eldi.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: jgreco@solaria.mil.wi.us (Joe Greco)
Subject: Re: SLIP for SUN 3/60
Keywords: SLIP 
Organization: Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:05:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.135325.1957@bmerh85.bnr.ca> csanii@bmera226.bnr.ca (Cyrus Sanii) writes:
>Has anyone gotten SLIP on a SUN 3/60 to work?  If so where can
>I get the code from?  Also is there a SLIP on the SUN for X-windows?
>I realize it will not be fast but all I want is to get it to work.
>Please post responses to this newsgroup so others may see it too.

The kernel I am running right now runs both SLIP and PPP.  However, I have
not been too happy with the user-side interface.  I'd like to have both
dial-in and dial-out options available, and one of the problems I've run
into is the lack of programs which handle carrier loss in an appropriate
fashion (ie, pop the slip streams drivers off, kill the route, and exit) -
I was working on this many months ago and had written some promising code
until I decided it would be easier to let the Sun use it's serial ports for
normal uses, pop an Ethernet card in a PC, and gain higher speed SLIP/PPP
capability while eliminating the occasional kernel panics I was inflicting
on a machine many people use.

It would still be nice to have a reliable dial-in SLIP/PPP capability
that can handle carrier loss correctly.  Does anybody know of a package
that will handle this?

I believe I got my sources from Colorado SuperNet, but they are the same
sources widely available.  I had to do minor tweaking to encourage consistent
naming of the pseudo-device with the csn package, as I recall.

... Joe

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From: limes@ouroborous.eng.sun.com (Greg Limes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SparcStation 10 and multiprocessing
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:38:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: ouroborous
In-reply-to: wdg@uncc.edu's message of Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:35:50 GMT

In article <Bx8wFr.4yC@unccsun.uncc.edu> wdg@uncc.edu (doug gullett) writes:
|   On a related topic, we are running 4 processors on our 690 (SunOS 4.1.2).
|   We were told by our Sun Rep that SunOS 4.1.3 was not tested (nor supports)
|   more than one processor on the 690.  What gives?

Your sales rep is confused. While SunOS 4.1.3 supports only one processor
for SuperSPARC-based systems, it still supports four Cypress CPUs.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: glenn@clsi.COM (Glenn Boysko)
Subject: Simple question on keyboards
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.misc
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:23:25


Hello:

Does anyone know how I can cause the Sun keyboard to emit codes for certain
keypad keys, such as the number 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, etc?  I was also wondering if
there was a general way to get the number lock keys to work.  I have a
SPARCstation ELC and I imagine its the standard keyboard.  

Here is what I'd like to do:

	1) Turn num-lock on by keystroke control
	2) Cause the rest of the keys to emit codes when not in NumLock,
	   such as 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, =, /, *, Pause, PrSc, ScrollLockBreak,
	   NumLock?

Any Ideas?
Glenn
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: csanii@bmera226.bnr.ca (Cyrus Sanii)
Subject: SLIP for SUN 3/60
Keywords: SLIP 
Reply-To: csanii@bmera226.bnr.ca (Cyrus Sanii)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:53:25 GMT

Has anyone gotten SLIP on a SUN 3/60 to work?  If so where can
I get the code from?  Also is there a SLIP on the SUN for X-windows?
I realize it will not be fast but all I want is to get it to work.
Please post responses to this newsgroup so others may see it too.

Thanks

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From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sparc classic -- there *is* edu pricing
Date: 11 Nov 1992 18:00:13 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

Here is the data I got:

EDUCATION PRICING
 
SPARCclassic
============
                                 List        End User  
                                =====        ======== 
 
15" color, 16MB, 207MB          $4,295       $3,356        
19" grey, 16MB, 207MB           $4,995       $3,944        
16" MR color, 16MB, 207MB       $4,995       $3,944        
16" color, 16MB, 207MB          $5,995       $4,784        
19" color, 16MB, 207MB          $6,995       $5,624      
 
15" color, 16MB, 424MB          $4,795       $3,776      
19" grey, 16MB, 424MB           $5,495       $4,364      
16" MR color, 16MB, 424MB       $5,495       $4,364      
16" color, 16MB, 424MB          $6,495       $5,204      
19" color, 16MB, 424MB          $7,495       $6,044       
 
Server, 16MB, 1.05GB            $5,295       $4,196      


I wonder what the price for a dozen edu boxes is :-)

        -ans.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc