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From: ron@topaz.bds.com (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where have all the good (6) calls gone...
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:37:47 GMT
Organization: BDS Systems
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.bds.com

> What about all the other US areas?  Are any 1x2 or 2x1 calls left?  (Not
> that I'd move to another area just to get one, of course :-)

They're all gone.  The 3rd area was the last to have any, I believe, and
they switched over to the AA3 stuff at the beginning of the year.  Part of
my motivation in upgrading was to beat the deadline.  In some areas you can't
even get the 1x3's any more.

Rumor has it though that the FCC is just getting ready to think about restarting
to issue club calls and the dollars for vanity calls again.

-Ron (WO2L, I got mine)

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:54:37 GMT

In <649@ka2qhd.de.com> kd2bd@ka2qhd.de.com (John Magliacane) writes:

>If applicants are not interested in advancing the radio art, there's always
>27 MHz, where code is still not a requirement.

So if I choose to ignore code (in favor of a less Neanderthal method of
communication ;-) I am not advancing the radio art???

>Let's face it.  CW transmitters are simple to build and understand.  ANYTHING
>that emits RF can be keyed for CW.

So the more simple it is, the more it advances the radio art??
I guess Mr Bell was NOT advancing the art of communication when he
invented the telephone.

>CW transmitters are *FUN* to design, build and use.

You are entitled to your opinion.

I happen to think that video, multimedia and microprocessor based
circuitry is more fun to design.  Just because code was the only
method of RF communication years ago does not mean it should be
a requirement for operating in a non-cw mode below 30 MHz!

>Hams who get involved in
>circuit design early on in their amateur radio lives are very likely to
>continue in their research and development, possibly making important
>advances to the radio art.

As longs as it is CW ciruit design, right?  Us non-cw designers
can't come up with sh__! ;-)

>And *THAT'S* what Amateur Radio is all about!

The propogation of archaic old-world techniques?

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
From: wlin@rockdal.AUd.alcatel.COM (Weifan lin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:21:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: rockdal.9211181621.AA28481
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu



I am looking for a circuit or a modification that I can build a very
cheap 2M single frequence receiver.  I am going to put this receiver
inside my car.
 
          Frequence: 144.860MHZ
               Mode: FM
        Sensitivity: @12dB less than 0.16V
Squelch Sensitivity: less than 0.1V
 Audio Output Power: >200mW (8Ohm load @10% distortion)

I heard there was an article from QST several years ago and it was
talking about how to convert a Radio Shack WX cube to 2M receiver.
Does anyone have the idea or know the article?

Thanks,

Weifan Lin
N5UPS
wlin@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com

        
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: awoodhull@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Need freq cntr info or manual
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:58:54 GMT

From:    Al Woodhull                            
To:      All
Subject: need manual for Schlumberger freq. counter

I need a manual for a Weston/Schumberger Programmable Frequency 
Counter, model 1254. 
My unit works fine but was purchased w/o manual and I have no idea how to 
program it or use the DB-25 interface (RS-232?) on the rear of the
unit.
Short of a manual any info on using the advanced features would be 
appreciated.
 
Al Woodhull
Internet: awoodhull@hamp.hampshire.edu
Fido: 1:321/109
Packet: N1AW @ K1MEA.MA
From: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Digital modes with EME
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:47:55 GMT
Reply-To: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Organization: Broadcast Sports Technology, Crofton. Maryland.

In article <9211210813.aa21947@ingate.microsoft.COM> a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho) writes:
 >Reading some of the previous Morse messages (the comments was like "you
 >will end up using morse for EME, auroura, weak signal, etc" at > 30MHz
 >-- which is a reasonable point, especially for aurora (how much doppler
 >do you get off aurora? I can work that one out when I get home!)) I
 >suddenly wondered "has anybody used other digital modes for EME. I have
 >heard of people using SSB (but I have no references). And modes like
 >Amtor witll work down to -10dB S/N.
 >

I wondered this myself, as I was struggling with the old CW in the last
EME contest.  I heard nothing but morse, but my experience on HF is that
I can copy on RTTY/AmTOR at about the same S/N that I can copy morse.
I'm sure that a modern amateur modem, PK232 or the like would not perform
as well as my set up (they are designed more for packet, and the RTTY
performance is poor) but with some planning work perhaps someone out there
will try it with me next time.

-- 
Michael Katzmann                  >   Broadcast Sports Technology Inc.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~	         <    Crofton, Maryland. U.S.A
Amateur Radio Stations:           >     
NV3Z / VK2BEA / G4NYV / AAR3VK   <    opel!vk2bea!michael@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:44:57 GMT
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

Why is it the proponents of the code requirement take the arguments against
it as a slam against CW?  Most of the arguments are simply suggesting that
there are many aspects to amateur radio, yet the licensing requirements
single out one mode to the near exclusion of the others.  I make the claim
that the licensing singles out CW because almost everyone seems to agree
that the CW requirements take considerably more study time to pass than the
written exams, thus placing an inordinate amount of emphasis on CW.

Before you jump on me, I think CW is a great mode.  I even operate CW when
I can find someone patient enough to work at a speed I'm comfortable with. 
I also get more than a little annoyed when some speed demon blows me off on
an AU contact because I'm interfering with his ability to work 10 stations
a minute.  grrr!  

I also think all the other modes are great, yet they receive the short
shrift when it comes to licensing.  Why?  We abandoned spark-gap and while
we won't probably abandon CW for a long time, let's put the emphasis on
more modern and technically oriented aspects of amateur radio instead of
some time honored mechanical skill.

73,
Todd
N9MWB

PS  The written exams also need to be a little harder and more
    comprehensive.  I passed 3B without a bit of study (only missed one
    question about what portion of 15 meters allows image transmissions.)
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:31:51 GMT
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <Bxyxs8.25z@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com> dstock@hpqmoca.sqf.hp.com (David
Stockton) writes:
>
>   Gary said that considering weak signal work the major area to strive
>for was the DX'er mentality. Surely this is the exact opposite of
>reality... All those DX'ers are striving for big amplifiers bigger beams

stuff deleted 

>   Sure, there are some who chase DX, yet do so in a gentlemanly
>fashion, but the vocal majority have made the tag "DXer" an insult.

Well I have been called worse names than DXer.  Also, it must not be
much of a  vocal majority since QST calls the DXCC program its most
popular award!

Whip me, kick me, make me bleed, .... but please just call me a dx'er.
73, Tom WB4IUX

--
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:47:25 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

<1e0iqkINN1e7@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC
Keywords: surly obese

In article <1e0iqkINN1e7@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.210453.29495@walter.cray.com> wws@craywr.cray.com  
>(Walter Spector) writes:
>> 
>> I've heard that Marlon Brando is a ham.  Don't know what his legal
>> name is, but apparently he owns some island QTH which is loaded
>> with ham gear.  Can anyone confirm?
>> 
>> Walt
>> ----
>> Walt Spector
>> (wws@renaissance.cray.com)
>> Sunnyvale, California
>> _._ _._ _.... _. ._.
>
>His real name is Marlon Brando.  Sister is Jocelyn Brando.
>
>Has kids named Brando, etc.
>
>But....what is his call?
>
>tnx es 73 de K9CUN, Jack

I heard the same thing too, that he owned an island in French Polynesia

to *get away from it all* and had gotten a ham license.  I'll look it up

when I get home tonight.  Anyone know why he moved to the Pacific??

Answer:  to get away from cheap European butter! aaarrrggghhhhh
(You had to be there.)
73, Tom

--
From: thomasjr@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (James Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: hobby
Date: 16 Nov 1992 20:04:42 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.144.52

I have noticeda lot of suggestions lately to increase the depth of theory
testing for a amateur license.  Please, this is a HOBBY not a degree
program at some university.


-- 
 ------------------------------------------------------------ 
   ** views above probably not agreeable to anyone **
          ** disclaimer disclaimed as needed **         
JR of  thomasjr@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Serial Interface; Kenwood TS-440 & 850
From: clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:02:55 EST

Someone out there in radio (or NET) land has chip numbers and
instructions for installing the serial interface circuitry in
a TS-440S.  Would he/she be kind enough to share with me?  I'd
rather not have to buy the Kenwood product.

I'd seen it a while back ... but < erroneously > neglected to
copy it down.

Also, the TS-850 ... is this interface already built-in?  I
noticed kits for the '440 and '940, but saw nothing listed for
the '450 and '850?  Anyone know?

Will appreciate all replies I may receive.

73 >< Carl
  K8NHE
From: n2gj@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us (Gerry Jurrens)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Famous or well-known HAMS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:32:30 EST
Organization: Princeton High School, Princeton, New Jersey

I actually met Jean Shepherd K2ORS a few times.  My first was in the 
waiting area at Ft. Lauderdale airport in 1976 after the NEA National 
Convention where I served as a delegate.  I gave him my WB2VTT QSL card 
to autograph and took his picture while he held it up.  He said "This is 
a fine business QSL card!"  
  
Several years later, at the Hudson Division ARRL Convention in Great 
Gorge (at what was then the Playboy Club Hotel), he was the guest 
speaker at the banquet.  I gave him a copy of the picture I took of him 
in FL and he suggested I take another picture of him "holding the picture 
of him holding that fine business QSL card!"  
  
A couple of years later, same venue, I repeated the deal and now have a 
picture of Jean Shepherd holding a picture of Jean Shepherd holding a 
picture of my fine business QSL card!
  

Gerald J. Jurrens N2GJ  | Black holes are where God divided by zero!
Mathtech/Box 147        | Internet : n2gj@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us
Kingston, NJ 08528-0147 | Packet   : N2GJ@KB1BD.NJ.USA.NOAM
(609) 520-3847 office   | GEnie    : G.JURRENS
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pulse@meaddata.com (Tom Hesley)
Subject: Third Party Traffic Question
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:04:29 GMT
Distribution: usa

A situation arose  at a  DX  contest a  few  weeks  back  that has  me
confused about what third party traffic is.  An  amateur radio club in
town was a sponsoring organization for some DXers in the area, many of
whom had their Technician licenses, while very few held their Advanced
and  Extra  tickets.  In order to  allow more  folks to participate on
more  frequencies, some of  the Advanced  and Extra  hams agreed to be
present  at the  club  station so  that   the Techs  could operate  in
Advanced and Extra portions of the ham bands.

At the last contest, a participant visiting the club shack objected to
this  practice, claiming that the  Techs could only make contacts with
hams  in countries that have  a  third  party  agreement with the U.S.
They contended that the higher class licensed ham is ALWAYS considered
to be a "third party" to any communications he is supervising, done by
a lower license class operator, utilizing his higher  class privileges
in his  presence.  :-)).  So, even though  the messages being sent did
not originate in the mind and mouth of  the senior ham,  The contester
insisted that this fact doesn't matter.  "He  is still a third party,"
he said.  "And the tech  at the mike  is passing third  party traffic,
which is illegal when contacting non third party countries."  The club
officials agreed that  the  Tech members were  not  allowed   to  make
contacts except in the Tech portions  of the ham  bands with non third
party   countries.  Thus,  several  techs  left  the  cite   extremely
disappointed and disenchanted with the whole business of contesting.

Many of the  rules and  regulations are  still fresh  in my mind after
having just  passed  my Extra a little  over a month  ago.  And I just
don't see the connection the complainer was  fabricating between third
party traffic  and senior  hams  supervising junior hams as  they lent
them  their privileges.  To  me, they're  not the   same at  all.  The
senior is just standing there.  Though he DOES bare an equal amount of
the  responsibility  for the  proper operation  of the  station as the
junior, he  CANNOT  be a third party  because  he is  NOT  telling the
junior WHAT to send.  He  is just making sure  that the junior follows
the rules.

Am I interpreting the notion of  third party traffic incorrectly?  Are
supervising hams considered by  the law  to  be  third parties in  the
above scenario?  Any comments would be appreciated.





--
Tom Hesley  N8UBU/AE      Opinions expressed within             (513) 865-7053
Mead Data Central            are my own and not            Systems Development
P.O. Box 933                necessarily those of            pulse@meaddata.com
Dayton, Ohio   45401         Mead Data Central        ...!uunet!meaddata!pulse
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke)
Subject: Re: famous hams
Keywords: just wondering
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:43:40 GMT

In article <83660@ut-emx.uucp> oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:
>Has anyone ever heard King Hussein (JY1), King Juan Carlos (EA1JC? - not 
>sure of this one), Rajiv Ghandi (VU2RG), or Thailand's king (HS1??) on CW?

>I haven't actually heard any of them (or heard of anyone hearing them) on
>any mode in the last several years.  Perhaps they just got licenses so that
>that they could get on 2m and order pizza/curry/paella...?
>

I have JY1's QSL for an SSB 14MHz contact of several years back.
It has his signature as simply Hussein I.

I don't think you will ever hear him again on ham radio.  He is
reported to be terminally ill.

Forrest Gehrke feg@dodger.att.com  k2bt
From: rwa@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What we used to have...
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:27:59 GMT

kd2bd@ka2qhd.de.com (John Magliacane) writes:
>It's amazing...  When 11-meters was opened to Amateurs, it was the only HF
>band where FAX (A4) transmissions were allowed.  Hams did a lot to help develop
>facsimile communications, then the FCC took 11-meters away from the developers
>(hams), and gave it to a no-code Citizen's Radio Service.

What's the difference between FAX and SSTV?  I've got to say that they sure
seem like the same idea to me.

regards,
Ross VE6PDQ
--
Ross Alexander  rwa@cs.athabascau.ca  (403) 675 6311  ve6pdq@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca

"One way of writing a book by a committee is to restrict its contents to the
intersection of the various opinions; it is a technique that tends to lead to
short texts of high quality, and has the advantage that in the case of a
sufficiently diverse committee, it leads to no text at all."  E. W. Dijkstra
From: swain_i@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 10 element quad antennas help!
Date: 24 Nov 92 12:39:08 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Hi there I would like to know of there is a antenna program that will do multi 
element quad antennas in the line of 10 or so elements for 2 Meters also
stacking info would help..

73's ZL2IAS, Ian


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: 5rtrtrt@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (richard.e.stealey)
Subject: Re: Where do you post For Sales?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:10:11 GMT

In article n2gj writes:
> Could someone tell me where it's appropriate to post Ham Equipment For 
> Sale?  Is there a news group especially for that?  Thanks, in advance. 73


I'm glad you asked the question.  There IS a newsgroup called 
rec.radio.swap where all the for sale, and "looking for" ads 
should be posted.

Rick   KT2Q
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: S21A QSL Received - is it Good??
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:50:14 GMT
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <1992Nov17.171100.24613@worldbank.org> dearnshaw@worldbank.org
(Darrell Earnshaw) writes:
>Received my S21A qsl in record time. Now the question is, is it good
>for DXCC?
>
>73 Darrell NR3Y. 

To my knowledge, cards from S21A are valid for DXCC.  Congrats on a
tough one! 73, Tom WB4IUX

-- 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: WEFAX from Germany will stop or scrambled
Organization: eng
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:03:57 GMT

Recently I went to the German weather forecast center in Offenbach. They
celebrated their 40th anniversary and for one week opened their doors for
everyone.
I ask them about the LW WEFAX station and they told me this will stop in
the near future. Also, the APT transmissions of METEOSAT will be scrambled
in the future.
The reason for this is the increasing 'stealing' of forecast data by 
private weather businesses which then sell that data to TV and radio stations
in Europe.

Whether METEOSAT will really be scrambled, I don't know. At least this sounds
a bit odd to me. 
Another interesting point is, that some countries, especially Japan and India
refuse to share their charts and pictures with the German forecast center. They
want money for it. The idea of global weather data exchange is apparently
not being followed.

Jurgen


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: uri@watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal,35-016,8621267,)
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Originator: uri@aixproj.watson.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:38:49 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

From article <1992Nov18.194424.1930@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, by little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little):
> Why is it the proponents of the code requirement take the arguments against
> it as a slam against CW?  

Maybe because the agruments and the tone of them are, err, slammish?

> Most of the arguments are simply suggesting that
> there are many aspects to amateur radio, yet the licensing requirements
> single out one mode to the near exclusion of the others.  

May I suggest,  that CW is the only mode,  which really requires 
specific training for the operator?  [On the other hand, digital 
modes don't even require YOU to be there - your computer does it
much better than you!  So just buy a rig, a PC and software, and
it will do radio communications for you - sit back and watch :-]

> I make the claim
> that the licensing singles out CW because almost everyone seems to agree
> that the CW requirements take considerably more study time to pass than the
> written exams, thus placing an inordinate amount of emphasis on CW.

It probably depends on a person. Took me less than a week.

> I also think all the other modes are great, yet they receive the short
> shrift when it comes to licensing.  Why?  

Because they don't require special training. You sweat to set the
station up and configure the darn program - and then all you need
is pounding on the keyboard... (Assuming that even monkey is able
to rotate that big frequency dial.)

> We abandoned spark-gap and while
> we won't probably abandon CW for a long time, let's put the emphasis on
> more modern and technically oriented aspects of amateur radio instead of
> some time honored mechanical skill.

OK, what kind of training/exam would you suggest for phone FM operator?
Or for phone SSB?  Also, nobody prohobits you from doing as modern and
technically oriented things as you wish!   Everything (almost :-) from
50 MHz and up is yours...
-- 
Regards,
Uri.		uri@watson.ibm.com
------------
<Disclaimer>
From: obrien@Aero.org (Michael O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: List of Notable Amateurs
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:47:31 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: anpiel.aero.org

In article <1746@eram.esi.COM.AU>, dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes:
|> This is a list of the "notable" Amateur callsigns that I have been
|> gathering for some time.  I would appreciate any updates - send them
|> to "dave@esi.com.au".  Of course, "notable" is purely in the eye of
|> the beholder; I consider it as someone in the (non-Amateur) public eye.
|> 
|> They have been gleaned from various places: amateur magazines, USENET
|> postings, and straight-out rumour :-)  It is almost certainly out of
|> date, especially the USA astronauts (there's been a rash of 'em lately).
...
|> N6YOS/KC6IWA	Priscilla Presley, actress (any relation?)
...

A valid call, for one LOU LOU BEAULIEU, in Los Angeles.  Birthdate and
street address are plausible.  Since when can you get a valid FCC license
under a pseudonym, though?
--
Mike O'Brien
obrien@aero.org