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From: javery@bnr.ca (Joel Avery)
Subject: Re: Request and Warning
Reply-To: javery@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:15:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.003736.23461@zoonews.bnr.ca>, clippy@bnr.ca (Dwayne Clipperton) writes:
|> I plan to go skiing shortly and I paid less than $200 for my used skis.
|> Are any of the locking devices for skis worthwhile?  I don't want
|> something so big that I have to keep it in the car.?.?.? -:)

Two things to do:

1) (You've already done this) Don't buy new skis.  Thieves like brand news
   skis.  Make sure your skis look real beat up on the tops.  I am now using
   a real beat up looking pair of skis, but the bases are fine.  The skis
   were pretty good when they were made, and they ski better than the pair I 
   bought new a couple of years ago.

2) Separate your skis (and poles) at the chalet.  One ski goes in this rack,
   and one waaaayyyyy over in that rack.
|> 
|> I assume, that there must be some small shackling device that will make
|> it a nuisance for would-be theifs.

You can also spend money to solve the problem.  I'll leave that to someone
else to comment on.
|> 
|> clippy@bnr.ca

-- 

Joel
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From: colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:55:42 GMT

In <1993Jan24.061006.19004@cunews.carleton.ca> rmcormon@alfred.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond) writes:

>In article <colinm.727837252@cunews> colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:

Some modem griping deleted.

>>  As for Freenet being killed by these modems, tell that to the 3300+
>>people that connected last week!!

>  Where did you get that number from?  The number of logins?  Do you
>realize how many of them are from on campus?  How many people are
>dialing Carleton's 9600bps lines (Which have modems which don't
>require special dial strings/etc)?  There is really no way for you to
>know how many people are actually using those 4 phone lines.

WRONG!!  I can get stats on anything connected to the Gandalf Starmaster.

FreeNet connect stats from Mon. Jan. 11 - Sun. Jan. 17
------------------------------------------------------

FreeNet modem connects  788-3733 = 1942
Carleton modem connects to FreeNet
              2400bps   564-5600 = 799
              2400bps   788-4411 = 192
              9600bps   788-3900 = 126

Total modem connects             = 3059 (ok, I know, I was off by 300)

Campus connects to Freenet       = 64  (Hmmm...pretty low eh?)


The above numbers only reflect the connects made through the the Gandalf
Starmaster to the FreeNet machine (getting a FreeNet login).  There are
still many other telnet connects made to FreeNet.

If you want it broken down to specific baud rates and parity connects
that can be done.

>  Maybe it's because as a support person I only hear when things go
>wrong, but so far I've heard a lot of problems that could be solved
>quite easily.

If you mean fixed easily by buying new hardware (modems, servers) then
that will work.  Send it over.

>  Eithor way - The Freenet isn't a service oriented just to 'techie'
>people, it is a service that should be oriented more and more towards
>the 'new telecom user' to try to encourage more people to get
>involved.  The discussions so far of "Oh, it's easy, just turn off
>your error correction" is fine and dandy for a telecom enthusiest, but
>is translated to "Felbert flange your grample grumpet" when talking to
>the type of user the Freenet should be seeking to get interested in
>the project.

Users will have to be educated no matter what type of system they
connect to.  As a support person, I deal with this day in and day out.

Bottom line is that more/better hardware means more money, something
that the NCF doesn't seem to have at this time.  

-- 
Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
colinm@ccs.carleton.ca

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From: mcbrayne@bmerh933.bnr.ca (John McBrayne)
Subject: Re: Request and Warning
Reply-To: mcbrayne@bmerh933.bnr.ca (John McBrayne)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:21:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan14.131724.27187@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, paynter@bnr.ca
(Stuart Paynter) writes:
|>Last night (Jan13), some one ripped my skis off from Mt. Cascades 
|>while I was inside changing.  If any Eastern Ontario/Western Quebec
|>skiers happen to come across the following skis, I'd appreciate 
|>a shout (the skis/bindings are fairly unique combination I think)

Mont Cascades has to be one of the worst places for ski theft (probably
because most people skiing there at night are there for lessons, and the
crooks KNOW lessons end at 9 and most everyone will be inside for an hour
or so for a few apres-lesson drinks).

I had my skis stolen there as well, as did at least 2 other people I know.
Best bet is to drop them off in the car before you go in after your lesson;
that way you can relax and enjoy the aprez-ski.

P.S. Just in case you didn't know, if you have house/tenant insurance you're
likely covered for the theft (but usually with a $200 deductible). Look at it
as a $200 upgrade to a brand new pair of skis and bindings!

..John

                     
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From: rmcormon@superior.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:19:08 GMT

In article <colinm.727991742@cunews> colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
>WRONG!!  I can get stats on anything connected to the Gandalf Starmaster.

  Thanks for the note.  This is, of course, only a side issue.  It's
nice to know that this many people are getting on.  Freenet has not
seen much from the 'public' yet, though, but mostly the telecom
community that already know all about 'init strings' and MNP's.

>Campus connects to Freenet       = 64  (Hmmm...pretty low eh?)

[side/irrelevant question]
  I'm curious if these are people using old VC terminals, or
people with PC's on campus-net that are going through the starmaster?

>If you mean fixed easily by buying new hardware (modems, servers) then
>that will work.  Send it over.

>Bottom line is that more/better hardware means more money, something
>that the NCF doesn't seem to have at this time.  


  Now, this is the type of response that I've been WANTING to get (If
only I can now get similar style responses from the board) There is an
extremely large difference between 'We acknowledge the problem, but do
not currently have the funds to deal with the problem' and 'the
problem  does not exist and we have no plans on dealing with it even
if the money does become available'.

  I myself hope to see the following:

  3 phone lines:
 780-3733 with Generic 2400bps modems that are as 'non-picky' as can be made physically possible.
 780-4263 with the existing Gandalf 2400bps modems
 780-3745 with any high-speed V.32bis modems (This can become very
realistic if Freenet takes off as I very much hope it will).

  Each 'modem type' would get a different phone number.  The main
'FREE' number having as generic and friendly a modem on it will make a
very large difference in the acceptance of the Freenet by some of the
non techies. (BTW: Contrary to popular opinion that only the 'techie'
people are buying modems that would have problems with the Gandalf
modems, a quick servay of local computer stores has quickly shown that
the hottest selling modems are 2400/V.42bis/FAX modems [embarrasingly,
mostly card-modems for Intel boxes, but the compatability issue is
still there]).



>Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
>Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
>colinm@ccs.carleton.ca
>

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From: coopde@bcars65f.bnr.ca (Behan Webster)
Subject: Repairing a TTX 800x600 multi-sync monitor
Followup-To: ott.general
Keywords: monitor
Reply-To: coopde@bcars65f.bnr.ca (Behan Webster)
Organization: BNR (Carling)
Distribution: ottawa,bnr
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:34:49 GMT

My TTX 800x600 multi-sync monitor recently decided to blow a circuit.
As I was packing it up to ship it here it popped a fuse and blew some
components,
(Which I'm assuming happened as for the burning smell  8)  ).... Now
I've replaced 
the fuse and some of the obviously blow components in the power supply,
but it still
blows the fuse when I turn it on.

Any one know of a good repair show that deals with the TTX monitor brand name?

Any help would be appreciated.

Behan Webster
(Sorry, no E-mail address)

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From: dave@revcan.rct.ca (David Blackwood)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Revenue Canada, Taxation; Office Communications Division
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:38:54 GMT

In article <colinm.727837252@cunews> colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
>In <1993Jan23.181327.18748@cunews.carleton.ca> rmcormon@alfred.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond) writes:
>>  P.S. You might want to indicate your comments on the Gandalf modems
>>to Dave Sutherland in private email.  When talking to Andrew the
>>discussion so far seems to always turn away from the real issues and
>>to the fact that they are donated.  When some new users calls up and
>>gets a 'CONNECT 2400....crackle, pop...NO CARRIER' they won't care who
>>donated what, that they can type the 'magic number for freenet access'
>>like  'AT&K0' for ZyXEL's, they will just no longer attempt to call
>>the Freenet.
>
>>  Special init strings for modems being required to call the Freenet
>>is likely going to kill it if the problem is not solved quickly.  If
>>anyone has money to donate, donate a simple 2400bps modem like one of
>>the Intel chipset modems (Supra 2400bps, Intel 2400bps, etc - Something that
>>doesn't have ANY error control and is extremely simple and
>>compatable).
>
>  The donated Gandalf modems are very simple modems that don't do
>data compression or error correction.  The FreeNet modems have been moved
>off of the Gandalf Starmaster data switch to a new terminal server
>which will greatly improve performance.  On Feb. 1st, when FreeNet
>goes public, people will be informed to connect at 8,N,1 (300,1200,2400)
>baud with no compression or correction. (Until then use 7 even ;-)
>
>  As for Freenet being killed by these modems, tell that to the 3300+
>people that connected last week!!

I don't care who donated the modems or how many people connected last
week, an extremely large number fail to connect each week because a) we
have told them to use 8n1 and b) we have not told them to turn of data
compression and error correction negotiation.  This is inexcusable and
is entirely the fault of the board of directors of the freenet.  There
is no excuse to have accepted a terminal server or modems that are
clearly second rate if they simply drop carrier or transmit garbage when
people try to connect using normal standard settings on their systems.
The excuse that they were donated and we don't wish to offend a sponsor
or that we can't afford any better is just that, an excuse.  2400 bps
modems sell today for less than $100.  Most volunteer, private BBSs
without any source of revenue operate at V.32 or V.32bis.  If we can't
accomodate public demands for 8 bit access, 9600 and 14,400 bps access,
access rather than busy signals, then the FreeNet could quickly become a
victim of its own success.

-- 
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From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re:  Freenet & Datapac
Distribution: world
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:47:29 EST
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

>>compression.  This isn't true when I call from my Supra24 to/from my
>>ZyXEL16.8.
>
>As stated many times before, the 2400 bps modems here at CU don't do
>any type of compression or error correction.  That's why it has to
>be disabled on the originating modem.  Part of the user education 

Actually, you should re-word that.  The modems we've been given can't
handle the simplest of things, so we have to confuse the users even more
by telling them to change settings on their modem that they can use when
calling every other system in the city.

>to use compression as well as 2400 8,N,1.  I know you think that
>this is a big deal and that users won't understand, but give them
>some credit, it's really not that difficult. 

I have been a sysop for 6 years, and belive me.  most users won't
understand.

>>Ya, but your forgetting to mention the (at least) 20000+ failed connects. 
>>I got 5 bad connects myself before I switched modems to connect.
>
>Ya, right!! 

At least you agree on that point.

>Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
>Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
>colinm@ccs.carleton.ca

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From: ebx@scs.carleton.ca (edmond bo xiao)
Subject: Large 1 bedroom for sublet.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:37:07 GMT

Large 1 bedroom for sublet.

- Available Feb. 1st
- Marivale/Kirkwood, 15 minture walk to Baseline BNR
- $480 per month includes heat, hot water, parking.
  Hydro extra(~$10/mo)
- Lease to the end of June 93. Month to month afterwards
- Second floor in a lowrise, hardwood floor, eat-in
  kitchen, freshly painted.

Interested please reply to account, or call Ed at
(613)725-0622

Thanks.

ed



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From: mpg@doe.carleton.ca (Mike Gagnon)
Subject: Re: Request and Warning
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Distribution: can
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:11:18 GMT

In <1993Jan22.145850.270@gandalf.ca> edlee@gandalf.ca (Ed Lee) writes:

>>|> P.S. Just in case you didn't know, if you have house/tenant insurance you're
>>|> likely covered for the theft (but usually with a $200 deductible).

>A friend of mine got her skis stolen at Mt.Tremblant on Jan 3rd.
>She filed a police report with the QPP and now has a brand new set
>of skis.  Actually, she got new boots, poles, skis & bindings for
>a mere $200 (deductible).

When I get new Skis (Just found a $600 pair of Rossignol 4s for $200,
what a DEAL!!!) I usually go out and get decals to stick all over them.
UGLY STUPID WEIRD decals. The theory is that they are too ugly to steal :) :)
It's worked so far. 
Also I always seperate my skis in the rack. I'll put one ski where I take them off,
and I cary the other to some other rack. This makes it hard to find the match
if you don't know exactly where it is.
Well have fun.
Mike.
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From: rmcormon@alfred.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Subject: Re: Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:10:06 GMT

In article <colinm.727837252@cunews> colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
>  The donated Gandalf modems are very simple modems that don't do
>data compression or error correction.  The FreeNet modems have been moved

  I know the 'technical' issues, but they're irrelevant in my mind,
and in the minds of non-technical people that I have to try to explain
why they need special dial strings to contact freenet.  Since I
advertise  my Freenet address all over, and offer myself for technical
support, I get a LOT of questions - The MAJOR issue with the freenet 
that I've seen so far are modem incompatabilities.

>off of the Gandalf Starmaster data switch to a new terminal server
>which will greatly improve performance.  On Feb. 1st, when FreeNet

 This won't affect the modem problem, only the 'bits' issue which is
more easy to explain (hit ';') than the confusion of modem specific
ways to turn off error correction and any other advanced modem feature.

>goes public, people will be informed to connect at 8,N,1 (300,1200,2400)
>baud with no compression or correction. (Until then use 7 even ;-)

  Again, these 'bits' are totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.

>  As for Freenet being killed by these modems, tell that to the 3300+
>people that connected last week!!

  Where did you get that number from?  The number of logins?  Do you
realize how many of them are from on campus?  How many people are
dialing Carleton's 9600bps lines (Which have modems which don't
require special dial strings/etc)?  There is really no way for you to
know how many people are actually using those 4 phone lines.

  Maybe it's because as a support person I only hear when things go
wrong, but so far I've heard a lot of problems that could be solved
quite easily.

  Eithor way - The Freenet isn't a service oriented just to 'techie'
people, it is a service that should be oriented more and more towards
the 'new telecom user' to try to encourage more people to get
involved.  The discussions so far of "Oh, it's easy, just turn off
your error correction" is fine and dandy for a telecom enthusiest, but
is translated to "Felbert flange your grample grumpet" when talking to
the type of user the Freenet should be seeking to get interested in
the project.

  It's hard to get NEW (As opposed to anyone who would be capable of
reading this message at the moment ;-) people interested in telecomunications
involved when there is a 'trick' to making that first step and
calling.

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From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re:  Freenet & Datapac
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:41:20 GMT
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

>  The donated Gandalf modems are very simple modems that don't do
>data compression or error correction.

And they completely fail to connect if your modem attempts to do
compression.  This isn't true when I call from my Supra24 to/from my
ZyXEL16.8.

>  As for Freenet being killed by these modems, tell that to the 3300+
>people that connected last week!!

Ya, but your forgetting to mention the (at least) 20000+ failed connects. 
I got 5 bad connects myself before I switched modems to connect.

>-- 
>Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
>Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
>colinm@ccs.carleton.ca
>

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From: inunn@hpb.hwc.ca
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Freenet Number
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:40:05 EST
Organization: Health and Welfare, Canada

Could someone please post the Freenet number again?
Thanks.
Ian Nunn
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From: rmcormon@alfred.carleton.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Subject: Re:  Freenet & Datapac
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:13:27 GMT

In article <jam.5043@jammys.ocunix.on.ca> jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond) writes:
>What kind of charging situation is there for a local connection?  Ie,

  The best thing for you to do would be to contact Bell about
billing/etc.

>connecting to the 2400bps modems (galdalf?), and am just wondering if the
>Datapac line is any faster.

  P.S. You might want to indicate your comments on the Gandalf modems
to Dave Sutherland in private email.  When talking to Andrew the
discussion so far seems to always turn away from the real issues and
to the fact that they are donated.  When some new users calls up and
gets a 'CONNECT 2400....crackle, pop...NO CARRIER' they won't care who
donated what, that they can type the 'magic number for freenet access'
like  'AT&K0' for ZyXEL's, they will just no longer attempt to call
the Freenet.

  Special init strings for modems being required to call the Freenet
is likely going to kill it if the problem is not solved quickly.  If
anyone has money to donate, donate a simple 2400bps modem like one of
the Intel chipset modems (Supra 2400bps, Intel 2400bps, etc - Something that
doesn't have ANY error control and is extremely simple and
compatable).



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From: kennedyl@bnr.ca (Ken Lawrence)
Subject: Celebration of Choice	
Reply-To: kennedyl@bnr.ca (Ken Lawrence)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:58:44 GMT

Third Annual

Celebration of Choice

Ottawa musicians perform at the 
Great Canadian Theatre Company (GCTC)
910 Gladstone Street(near Preston) - 8:00pm

MONDAY JANUARY 25,  1993

Rebecca Campbell,  Lynn Miles,  Lucky Ron
Toasted Westerns,  Bob Stark,  Terry Tufts,
and more...

Tickets for this event are available $10(advance)
$12(at door) at
Women's Bookstore,  Octopus Books,  Folklore Centre,
Food for Thought (or call CARAL-Ottawa at (613) 749-5017

A benefit concert for the Canadian Abortion Rights Action
League (CARAL) on the fifth anniversary of the 
Morgentaler Decision




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