HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mukherjb@dsuvax.dsu.edu (Basu Mukherjee)
Subject: cyclone
Organization: Dakota State University, Madison, SD
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:03:30 GMT

 Hi

 I heard in Radio Netherland news at 9:30 UT that approx. 1 million
people were evacuated from the coastal region. 30000 Burmese refugees
are exposed to the cyclone in Cox Bazar. Technaf is the hardest hit.

bye
Mukherjee

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
From: masroor@human.ai.kyushu-u.ac.jp (Muhammad Masroor Ali)
Subject: Ahmadiya (Please vote NO)
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci. and Comm. Eng., Kyushu Univ., Fukuoka, Japan
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:25:41 GMT
X-Bytes: 1740

The following  article is reproduced here from soc.religion.islam.


< Begin Article >

From: M. Saggaf <alsaggaf@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Ahmadiyya (Please vote NO)
Date: 14 Nov 1992 19:53:02 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Reply-To: M. Saggaf <alsaggaf@Athena.MIT.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu
Originator: gwydion@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu

There is a voting process going on right now about whether or not to
create a subgroup of this group called soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya.
As I said before, using the word Islam by anyone who has no right to
it to pass himself/herself as a Muslim is unacceptable. Please vote NO
to the creation of the proposed group. You can vote by sending email
to the address

	 rana@ucsu.colorado.edu

with the sentence

	I vote NO to soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya

somewhere in the body of your letter.  You may want add the line

	Return-Receipt-To: (your email address)

to your message header to get a confirmation of the receipt of your
letter and save the confirmation as a proof of your vote.

Please VOTE NOW!

The voting period expires December 3.

Wassalam,

/M. Saggaf
 alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu

============================================================

< End Article >
--
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Who says `Nothing' is impossible? I am doing nothing throughout years. 
   _______________________________________________________________________

    masroor@human.ai.kyushu-u.ac.jp (Muhammad Masroor Ali)
    Department of Computer Science and Communication Engineering
    Faculty of Engineering, Kyushu University
    Fukuoka, 812 JAPAN

    
        
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: alam@ee.rochester.edu (Sheikh Kaisar Alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Religious Tolerance and Muhammads battles
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:36:16 GMT
Followup-To: soc.religion.islam
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Nov18.133352.11180@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM writes:
	[Anis Shorrosh and Ahmed Deedat described]

Don't you get it, Indu? Please move your discussion to one of the religious
groups, or continue it on email.
As many others have already expressed, we don't want your religious discussions (?)
on SCB. This is for discussing issues related to Bangladesh.

Shuja
-- 
Those who can, do.
    Those who know, teache.
        All others become administrators.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: to all those carrying out irrelevant issues
From: shanto@vax1.mankato.msus.edu (Sharful Islam)
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:04:58 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

dont you get it INDU -- we dont WANT your baseless inflammatory remarks in this
net! Get lost, shoo, diappear......go off anywhere else but here with your
ridiculous theories and arguments. it is very obvious now that what you love
doing is villifying islam and muslims. if there was a way of banishing morons
like you from the net, i am positive it would have been done so through
unanimous decision aof all the other netters a long time ago.

and what's with you, Supratic Gupta?  you keep coming back with one problem
after another., the latest being what if you converted to Islam and had to
leave all your friends? what is YOUR problem!!! if you are so curious to know
about Islam, why cant you simply postr your questions to the relevant group.

I DONT GET IT!!! WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TWO TO UNDERSTAND  THAT
WE DONT WANT TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU SOWING SEEDS OF DISCONTENT IN THIS GROUP!

the same applies to the other debate going about african - american and
chinese. why is it being carried on in scb. i believe all those involved arent
even Bengalis. i ahve no problems with  that, but i do have problems with the
fact that valuable space is being taken up by people discussing issues
completely irrelevant to bangladesh.

GOD, i sure hope that when i open the news again, these unpleasant pain in the
backs will disappear!!
From: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:59:24 GMT
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: curie.systemsy.cs.yale.edu


In article <3230@ucl-cs.uucp>, B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:
> > In article <1e9pb6INNm9v@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.ed
> u (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
> >I am not from "these countries."  I have never lived in an Islamic
> >country in my life.  But one thing I *was* taught is that one should
> >know what one is arguing about before one attempts it.  Were you ever
> >taught that Raj?  Or is common sense something that you just never
> >considered important?
> 
> It only shows that Bangladesh still has some rabid jammati fundamentalists 
> carrying the flags of their Arab/Paki masters. As previously said, pet Dogs 
> are more faithful to the house than the masters themselves. No wonder pakistan
> comfortably screwed Bangladesh 10 years ago, killing over 3 millions Bengalis,
> with the help of Jamatees like your-self. Average Bangladeshi would be
> very much relieved to know that your highness decided to live in non-islamic 
> state of America and did not come to live in (islamic republic of) Bangladesh.
> At least, you had some mercy on Islam.


Just as people are talking about kill files, the leader of the kill file
charts pops up!  This article speaks for itself -- no need to add
anything.

Just for the record, I am not a Jamati and I have never lived in
Bangladesh.

-- Shakil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: zahin@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Kazi Zahin S. Hasan)
Subject: Re: U.S. military aid to Bangladesh
	<Bxz81C.C0C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:39:48 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Nov18.024548.4352@dsuvax.dsu.edu>
mukherjb@dsuvax.dsu.edu (Basu Mukherjee) writes:

>  The Subic Bay naval base used to pour one million dollars every
>  day to the economy of that impoverished region of Philipines.
>  I like to see Bangladesh getting a deal like that. What else in
>  short term can get BD such a source of hard currency that is so
>  dearly needed there?

A policy as far-reaching as this kind of "deal" should not be
evaluated only by its effects on foreign exchange reserves.  

Do you think that the length of Ferdinand Marcos' 16-year regime was
unrelated to the US military presence?  Marcos knew that as long as he
guaranteed the future of the American bases, American aid would keep
coming. Hence, he could be as repressive as he wanted to be with no
fear of meaningful international backlash.

Given these circumstances, is it surprising that he was able to
intimidate his opposition into silence? 

Can you imagine what would have happened in Bangladesh if Ershad had
stayed in power for ten more years? But if the US had been allowed to
establish bases in Bangladeshi territory, this might have been the
case. If such bases are built in the future, our next dictator _may_
very well stay in power for much longer than Ershad managed.

I might also add that due to the huge inflow of US "aid" during the
Marcos years, the Philippines is still one of the most heavily
indebted countries in Asia.
--
Zahin Hasan
zahin@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
(216) 774 2466
OCMR box 1551
Oberlin College, Oberlin, Ohio 44074
				

	When a stupid man is doing something he's ashamed of, he always 
declares that it is his duty.

                                  George Bernard Shaw 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
From: Rana  <rana@cs.unsw.oz.au>
Subject: Re: MULLAHS BURN QURANS AND DESECRATE MOSQUE IN DACCA
Organization: Uni of NSW, Sydney, Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
     <1992Nov13.181001.18649@leland.Stanford.EDU>
     <1992Nov10.023352.4039@cs.wayne.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:54:33 GMT

Subject: Re: MULLAHS BURN QURANS AND DESECRATE MOSQUE IN DACCA
From: Nabeel Ahmad Rana, rana@rintintin.Colorado.EDU
In article <1992Nov10.203321.25760@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Nabeel Ahmad Rana,
rana@rintintin.Colorado.EDU writes:
>uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>
>
>>could someone enlighten us all regarding what is the reason that
>>we hear som many news reports about progroms on the ahmadiyaas
>>(Most of the reports are about incidents in pakistan and iran (if
>>I recall right) ).
>
>
>>Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
>>(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
>
>
>Every divine religion has been persecuted. If you look at the history
>of any divine religions, Jewism, Christianity, Islam, all were persecuted
>in beginning.
>
>This could be a sign of the truth of Ahmadiyya Islam?
>


I believe our muslim brothers should expand their brotherhood beyond
religions.
What I mean we should believe more in humanity and should not be confined
to
a particular religion. Like Bhai or Buddhists, we should pray for 
happiness and
 prosperity of all the beings in the world, not only for only Muslims.
Remember?
" hate sin, not the sinner" . I say, we are  all in a human family of the
world, no 
matter what religion we belong to.
From: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Religious Tolerance and Muhammads battles (Now Poem etc)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:54:29 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: curie.systemsy.cs.yale.edu
Keywords: Religion, Poem, Tagore


In article <92Nov19.131218est.9084@rock.db.toronto.edu>, zmhasan@db.toronto.edu ("Masum Z. Hasan") writes:

> 	Sorry Shuja for redirecting this message to SCB. Followup
> 	to this particular article should have been put to SCB,
> 	since these people are not discussing this on SRI. I wonder
> 	whether they would pay any heed to your request.
> 	One more thing, this message should have been directed 
> 	not only to that Indu guy, but to our dear Shakil too
> 	(sorry Shakil). Shakil, don't you think this sort of discussion
> 	(about Ahmadiyas etc) that you're now carrying on with others,
> 	should be moved to SRI?

No, I think that was the whole point.  If the Ahmadiyas are Muslims,
then why isn't this all on soc.religion.islam?  In fact, why is there
a need for a new group at all?

When there is a call for votes for a new newsgroup, one addresses the
potential voters.  How do you address potential voters of a
non-existent newsgroup?  You post to those groups which are likely to
have readers who *would* vote on such an issue.  This applies to both
sides in this argument.  In light of this, the Ahmadiya issue is very
much relevant to SCB, SCI, and SCP.

If you look at the number of articles on SCB in the last few months,
you will find that the only topics which generate a flood of articles
and vigorous debate, are those which are religious in nature.  Why do
you think this is?  Obviously, there *is* much interest in this topic,
otherwise people wouldn't be posting.  History has shown that time and
again, the religious discussions invite the widest participation and
continuous flow of articles.  How come?  I think it is simply because
the culture, history, and politics of our part of the world is so
closely intertwined with religion that they cannot be separated.
Consequently, most South Asians have a certain level of interest in
religion, whether it be from a follower's perspective, or from an
atheist's perspective.

Naturally, there are people on the net who are out to get on
everyone's nerves and just spread messages of hate.  If success was
measured by the number of kill files one can enter, they have a very
high rate of success, but that's about it...  Nevertheless, there have
been some very interesting debates of religious nature in the past,
and I think there will continue to be so.

-- Shakil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: zahin@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Kazi Zahin S. Hasan)
Subject: waste dumping in Bangladesh
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:33:59 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1e6ll6INNjar@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:

>  This article appeared on SCI -- seems very relevant to SCB:

[very good article deleted]

>		 GREENPEACE AND UBINIG RECOMMENDATIONS
>
[more good stuff deleted]
>  We recommend that the Government of the United States: 
>
>  * Immediately reimport the hazardous waste illegally exported to
>  Bangladesh.
>  * Enact legislation to prohibit all future international waste
>  exports, especially to Third World countries.

A suggestion to those scb-readers who are US citizens:

Perhaps you should think about writing to your congressman/senator
about this. A few letters won't work miracles, but they would be a
start.

This is just a suggestion, I hope nobody takes it the wrong way. 
--
Zahin Hasan
zahin@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
(216) 774 2466
OCMR box 1551
Oberlin College, Oberlin, Ohio 44074
				

	When a stupid man is doing something he's ashamed of, he always 
declares that it is his duty.

                                  George Bernard Shaw
From: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Religious Tolerance and Muhammads battles
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:59:12 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: curie.systemsy.cs.yale.edu


In article <1992Nov18.133352.11180@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:

[usual gas deleted]

>    As per the T.V. shows which Shakil saw Dr. Anis did not stand 
>    a chance in front of Ahmed Deedat (Shakil's claim).  Deedats followers add
>    that ONE SHOULD those T.V.shows to make an assessment of Anis and his 
>    capbilities. (BY the way, Shakil who are the producers of those
>    T.V. shows?)  

I can't believe I'm actually bothering to follow up to this guy, but
since he does ask for references...

(IPCI #30)	THE QUR'AN OR THE BIBLE? Preview of the Debate:
                Ahmed Deedat vs. A. Shorosh, South Africa, 120 min.)

(IPCI #27)	IS JESUS GOD?  (A. Deedat vs. Anis Shorosh, U.K.,
                Big Debate, Very Powerful)

-- Shakil
From: raza@ee.umr.edu (Md Ishfaqur Raza)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Tropical cyclone
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:47:59 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <00963E35.F953B5C0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> umera@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Ruhul Amin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.055552.3152@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, tnk@cloud1.met.fsu.edu (T.N. KRISHNAMURTI) writes:
>>
>>That tropical cyclone which was reported by Jack Beven is heading for Chitta-
..
>>24 h from now. Krishnamurti.
>
>
>According to Radio Australia news (monitored this morning), the cylone has
>already hit the southern part of Bangladesh.  The devastation is quite intense.
>The reception of the news was not very clear.  But I think I heard that it was
>one of the worst (again?). If anyone has more information, please post.
>
>-- Ruhul Amin

If anyone has any information, however little it is , please do post it. 
I will call home tonight and post information relevant to it as soon as 
possible.

Allah please don't let it happen again and again.

Md Ishfaqur Raza
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rsingh@eos.ncsu.edu (Ranbir Singh)
Subject:  Re: NO SUCH MAILS PLEASE-- REF--RESPECT FOR FEMALES
Followup-To: <1992Nov20.193612.6487@gw.wmich.edu>
Originator: rsingh@zeus.psrc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rsingh@eos.ncsu.edu (Ranbir Singh)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:29:05 GMT


Keywords: 

In article <1992Nov20.193612.6487@gw.wmich.edu> you write:

|> THIS IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING OBSCENE WRITING IN THE NETWORK
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> MANY PEOPLE AND PERSONAL FIGHTS LIKE IT OCCURED IN RESPECT FOR FEMALES
|> SHOULD BE STRICTLY AVOIDED.  NOBODY IS HERE TO READ YOUR BULLSIT EMAILS
                                                          ^^^^^^^^
                                                  Now that's a nice word!
 
I love it when Biharis use "flowery"
American words (now don't tell me that was a typo!)- It gives a sweet blend
 of cultures.
-Ranbir

|> SHAMBHU.
|>
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Are there any seat avaialable to go to India?
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:01:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <4259@unisql.UUCP> nandraj@unisql.UUCP (Nandraj Arni) writes:
>
>
>     I am trying to get a ticket to travel to India from Austin, TX to
>Hyderabad, India on 18th Dec and be back on 3rd Jan. I tried almost all
>the Airlines, no one seem to have even a single seat. I called few
>agents too. It seems all the seats in all the airlines are sold out.
>
>   Whats the deal here? why can't they more planes. Is there a way
>to buy the ticket? Ofcourse I don't want first or bussiness class.
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>-- 
>*******************************************************************
>Nandraj Arni
>
>UniSQL, Inc.                                    Voice: 512 343 7297
>9390 Research Blvd.                              Home: 512 258 5186
>Kaliedo II			   	          FAX: 512 343 7383
>Austin, TX 78759
>
>Email: unisql!nandraj@cs.utexas.edu
>*******************************************************************

It is true that almost all airlines have sold out seats to India. It
appears that as though everyone seems to be going home to India this
year. 

The most advizable course for you would be, to ask your own favorite 
travel agent, to try  and book you by any route, not necessarily the
traditional ones. An example would be, from Austin, TX to India, the
traditional one would be Austin, TX to Los Angeles, CA, to Singapore
to Bombay. A non-traditional one would be Austin, TX to New York, NY
to Frankfurt, Germany, to Bombay. The cost of course would be more &
depending on the urgency,  or otherwise, you may choose,  whether to 
travel at all or not.

Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
From: jamshed@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Jamshed Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need Info. Visa status etc.
Date: 16 Nov 1992 00:07:52 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics, IC Group
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jamshed@Warren.MENTORG.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: kahn.warren.mentorg.com


Hi-

I would appreciate anybody's help regarding some information.

I recently got married. My wife is working in Michigan.
I am working in New Jersey. She in on H-1 visa and recently became Canadian
resident (after getting H-1). I am about to get my H-1. Right now I am on 
F-1 Practical trainning.

The questions are:

1- 	Can she quit her job and stay in New Jersey legally being a canadian
	resident?

2-	Does she needs to keep the current job until she get another
	job in New Jersey and new H-1? ( a hard one to do)

3-	Can she get a H-1 easily
	after converting to my visa, that is, getting H-4? I mean is it more
	hard to convert to H-1 from H-4  then a new H-1 from old H-1.

4- 	Can she take a long absence from her job, provided her employer
	agree and search for the job in New Jersey. As she is paid on 
	an hourly basis, will there be any problems later on while filing
	income tax?

5-	How difficult is it for the Canadian resident to get H-1?

My wife wants and move to New Jersey as soon as possible without 
getting into too much trouble 

I guess there are some options available. I am asking your help to find 
the optimal option.

Please  post the comments  on net, so other people may also read it in case
some one need the infomation in future. You may also mail your kind response
directly to me.

Much thanks in advance.

--jamshed.
From: varmaa@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: View jpg files
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:44:22 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Dear netters,

I have some .jpg files of indian actresses from ftp.funet.fi that i would like
to view.  I don't have a jpg.exe or an executable file to view it.  

Could any of you guys/gals tell me where i can get it?

Thanks in advance.

Anurag.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:03:37 EST
From: Arvind K. Mathur <AMATHUR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIAN CULTURE - subservient?
 <1992Nov19.011212.10244@massey.ac.nz> <By0tsx.53s@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>

    I think absolute spiritualism and absolute materialism are the extreme
points of the same continuum. And this continuum seems to move in a cyclic
fashion. One can become fed up with materialism and look towards spiritualism
for solace. India is in need of a heavy dose of materialism especially the
bold kind which will give us the courage to play globally and find solutions
to our problems in a little more practical or materialistic way. The problem is
 that the old habit of looking to religion and inner strength for problems
is not dying down as fast as it should. The modern problems facing Indians
need modern solutions, which seem to be all materialistic.
     The policy of the Indian government of "self Reliance" is a spiritual
solution for  modern problems such as balance-of-payments etc. Therefore
religion per se is not bad for our cultural and social life but the thought
of solving our problems based on religious beliefs will perhaps never make
sense in todays world.
regards,Arvind
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re:    South Indian<>Dravidian
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 18 NOV 92 12:05:40    


In article <92322.150340EASWAR@PURCCVM.BITNET>, <EASWAR@PURCCVM.BITNET> writes...
>NOT ALL SOUTH INDIANS GO WITH DRAVIDIAN THEORY.
> 
>Let me explain.

	Stuff deleted.

	Excellent Nyshadham. Thanks for posting your views. I whole
	heartedly agree with you. Dravidianism was a tool of the Brits
	to divide India. Brits are gone so should Dravidianism.

	How about every one believing the descendent of an Aryan? To 
	homogenize you have a choice - either demote or promote. Why not 
	promote.
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