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From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: Fashionably Bi? :)
Followup-To: soc.bi
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:04:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.095012.1@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu> 
75furlong@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu writes:
>In article <16o50kINNkik@agate.berkeley.edu>, 
>rsr@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>> cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>>>	o Don't assume I am really straight and only claiming to be
>>>	  bisexual to be fashionable.
>> 
>> *blink*
>> 
>> Umm, I must be more clueless than I thought.
>> 
>> Is it actually fashionable in some areas in the world to be bi?
>> 
>> Gee, *where*?
>> 
>> -roy, who's starting to pack :).
>
>Yup, I definitely need to move. (Gosh-I've *never* been fashionable before.
>What will I wear....?)
>
>Perhaps you can fit me in your suitcase, Roy?
>
>-Alison
>

I think this "fashionable" bit is usually just yet another way of invalidating
people's experience.

There are some unconventional circles (perhaps where bisexuality is 
talked about in theory or where bis hang out in larger numbers) where there
might be some grains of truth. IMHO - it's hard to pressure or
force someone to become bisexual - if more people act bi in a situation that
is more open, it's more likely that they are don't what they want than
following peer pressure.

The popular media has covered bisexuality in spurts; lending the impression
that it goes in and out of fashion. One of the notable clusters of
high-profile articles showed up back in 1974:

"Sexual chic, sexual fashion and sexual confusion." New York Magazine Apr 31-36
"Bisexual Chic: Anyone goes." Newsweek May 24,90
"Bisexual life-style appears to be spreading, and not necessarally
among swingers." New York Times Mar 24, p. 57
"The bisexuals." New York Magazine, Apr 37-38
"The bisexual phenomenon" Viva Magazine, Jul, 42-45
"Bisexuality: The newest sex-style" Cosmopolition Jun, 189-192
"The new bisexual" Time Magazine May 13, 79-80

I haven't seen all these articles, though I did read one or two at the time,
I think. (The citations are from Tom Geller's bi bibliography.) As I recall
the "Chic" referred in part to a short-lived trend of a some celebrities
saying they were bisexual.

I doubt this has much effect on people's real behavior except insofar as
it spreads the b-word and various images of bisexuals in people's awareness.

-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: rickc@agora.uucp (Rick Coates)
Subject: Re: Where did all my "friends" go?
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:43:09 GMT

orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:

[some good advice to osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)]

	Arrows of neon and flashing marquees out on Main Street
	    Chicago, New York, Detroit, and it's all on the same street.
	Your typical city involved in a typical daydream
	    hang it up and see what tomorrow brings

	Most of the cats that you meet on the street speak of true love
	    Most of the time they're sittin' and cryin' at home.
	One of these days they know they gotta get goin'
	    out of the door and down to the street all alone

	Truckin'
	    like the doodah man
	Who once told me "You got to play your hand
	    Sometimes the cards ain't worth a damn
	if you don't lay 'em down"

	Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me
	    Other times I can barely see
	Lately it occurs to me
	    What a long strange trip it's been.

				    Robert Hunter



Rick Coates
rickc@agora.rain.com
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: alt.lycra?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:03:38 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

Has there been anything entertaining on alt.lycra yet? It exists here
but claims no messages have been posted to it. I want to know it it's
worth pestering our sysadmins (or UKNet?) into doing something.

Owen.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Lt. Yar nearly naked on Showtime
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:57:14 GMT

Mark Kaepplein x1517 writes:
>
>Did anyone catch Denise Crosby on Showtime last Tuesday(?)
>
>Doesn't anyone else have even a little crush on her?

Oddly enough, I find Lt. Yar to be amazingly sexy, but I am not half as
attracted to Denise Crosby herself.  I suspect that part of it has to
do with the haircut, but not of it has to do with the Yar attitude, which
is what I find most attractive.
--scott
From: johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Stonewall 25
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:32:49 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy

In article <m7apbn9x@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.045730.11078@news.Hawaii.Edu> johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan) writes:
>>In article <17858@acorn.co.uk> osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug15.025105.1222@guvax.georgetown.edu>
>>>mnorth@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
>>[ILGA]
>>>>a. Bi was not included in the March title because of the objections of 
>>>>of Asians, notably Indians, Malaysians, and Thai
>>I don't understand the connection.  All the biphobes I've ever met
>>have been white.
>
>Interesting.  Biphobia, along with homophobia, is very common among Asian
>people in the UK; there have been a lot of reports recently of various
>acts of familial violence against Asian people when they have come out
>as LBG.  The topic has been virtually unspeakable-about - as far as I
>know there is only one support group for Asian LBG people in the UK.
>
>I can't say for biphobia particularly, but I've experienced considerable
>degrees of homophobia from black and Asian students here - more, I'd guess,
>than from their white peers, ceteris paribus.

Sigh, I wasn't clear enough.  I meant gay biphobia, not straight
biphobia.  I presume the March committee doesn't care what straight
Asians think.

--John
-- 
John Flanagan                          ||"Pretty boys
johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu           || with the sunshine faces
U. of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astro.|| <mumble mumble>..."
2505 Correa Rd., Honolulu, HI 96822    ||            -- My Bloody Valentine
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: JB <jbl@mesaadm.cre.nt.com>
Subject: Re: Who am I anyway?
Organization: NT/BNR
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b3
     <1992Aug21.040154.12939@agora.uucp> <1992Aug21.041114.13058@agora.uucp>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:05:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.041114.13058@agora.uucp> Rick Coates,
rickc@agora.uucp writes:
>>JB
>>No signature. no disclaimer.  no explanations to anyone but myself

Forgive me if I said "boards", I'm from an older school.  I meant, well,
Usenet groups; hell, what else could I call them.  As far as JB, well,
that's what I go by, but you may call me Jan if you wish.  For the
record, I use JB on any group, not just soc.bi.  Now darn it, you made me
explain.  Well phhfft.
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Norwich (was Re: silly quotes)
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:50:39 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <10428@scott.ed.ac.uk> bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies)
writes:

>btw Anyone off to Norwich ???

Yes  - assuming I get anything back in the post from them (I'll probably
turn up even if nothing arrives). So what exactly are you supposed to get
back from them anyway?

Owen (wondering if he did the right thing)
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: "Giving up" Marriage
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:58:50 GMT

pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir) writes:
>If she ever got hurt I would not be able to visit her as family. I
>have no rights to her property. If anything were to happen to her, her
>son would go back to his father in Ohio who hasn't sent her a penny in
>9 years. Because we don't have that stupid paper from the state we are
>limited in what we can do to take care of each other. ... I look and I
>see one step that will allow me to take care of my mate in an
>emergency, and it is very difficult not to consider reaching out and
>grabbing hold of that option.

Scott, see a lawyer immediately.  A good, GLB-friendly one.  (Or, at
the very least, buy or borrow one of the recent books on the legal
issues of same-sex partnerships.)  If we learned anything from the
Sharon Kowalski- Karen Thompson mess, it should have been to take at
least _some_ legal steps to protect our relationships.

My opposite-sex SO and I have exchanged healthcare powers of attorney,
and at least drafted our wills.  There _are_ things you can do.

--
Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu
From: grant@Autodesk.COM (Grant Hogarth)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bethan's Birthday Greetings
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:42:03 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

riding through a shopping mall, with the text:

"Wreck the malls with cows on Harleys".

Grant.
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
From: ted9e@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Edward Doyle)
Subject: Re: Happiness is a Warm Smile
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:26:22 GMT

Everybody's got to be *somewhere*.
From: bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: silly quotes
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:24:44 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK


I came across this quote as a header for a 'low fat' food  advert in a 
slimmer's magazine (and no, it wasn't mine!)

' Don't fight the temptation. Lick it.'

It just caught my imagination.... |-)


                      <snuggles>


                             Bethan


btw Anyone off to Norwich ???
From: ELAINE@brownvm.brown.edu (Elaine M. Brennan)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Introduction
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:15:10 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta


In article <BtCzqD.L5K@ibmpcug.co.uk>, gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) said:
>
>(She thought she was poking fun at a very straight straight.  I can't
>help it if I look big & butch & manly ;-) )
>
>G
>--

butch?  <snicker, snort> ... I'm not at all sure 'butch' is one of
the first three adjectives that come to mind when I think of you ...

Elaine
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
From: swc@fig.citib.com (Steve Carpenter)
Subject: Re: queer marriage - personal problem
Originator: swc@owl
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:00:11 GMT


In article <92230.224947IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
|> should queers do mock marriages?
|> 
|> sure, why not?  sounds liek a blast to me, and i would give MUCH
|> to see the drag queen mother of the bride!  they have those in
|> portland every once in a while.
|> 
|> the whole patriarchal christian marriage thang NEEDS making fun
|> of and further eroding...
|>                                     -ailsa



...and what would I do with my wash-n-wear Brides Maid Outfit??

-- 

Steve Carpenter                                 B0 f- t+ c+ k+(+) g++ s h  
5 Jane St.  New York, NY  10014-1934
(212) 691-8547                                  CIS: 70313,122
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Keywords: *DeFlower* ME will you...
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:31:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.000800.151310@zeus.calpoly.edu> cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe L Johnson) writes:
|In article <1992Aug16.043151.4330@latcs1.lat.oz.au> woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) writes:
|[about Chicago bi party]
|> ... Then off to hot tubs in SF, and *then* ...
|BTW, it was determined last night that the aforementioned hot tub 
|fits five quite nicely.

   And oh so comfortably, too, except for legs, which ended up rather
entangled.

|(there was some concern)  From the length
|of time that it took for us to exit it, it seems to have done just
|fine.  :^)

   (Except in the case of certain people who had to scurry to Oakland
airport to catch a *full* 23:15 flight to the abovementioned Chicago :-(
I was *very* *relaxed* on the flight back, though :-)
                __
  david parsons \/ "That's three trips where trainspotting lost big."
From: SHARON@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU ("Sharon Snyder, Summer Ice Queen")
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Grant's party... and demuffining self
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:19:52 GMT

Coe, party snuggle buddy extraordinaire:

>Warning, look out!

<Sharon appreciates warning... looks all around frantically... look,
up in the sky... it's a bird, it's a plane it's ...>

>Eeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh... pounce!
>A familiar muffin... hullo!
>*snuggle*

It's a Coe! Yay! *snuggle* *cuddle* 
*tumble*  <sigh>


>>Sharon, wondering about this de-muffining thang... as if she doesn't spend 
>>*enough* time at her keyboard! phbth.
>>
>>so, kids, how'd I do for a first time?

>A little flirt, a little innuendo... allow me to compliment you on your
>technique :^)

sheesh... and I'm just getting warmed up! Thank you... and allow me
to compliment you on yours... (and this has *nothing* to do with
writing styles! ;-) ). 

>-Coe

Sharon
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bethan's Birthday Greetings
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk


[Chris Von Hendy Writes]
>Yoks, my idea has been stolen.  I demand an e-flirt in payment.

Not really, I saw it on a birthday card I had when I was 18-ish, it just 
had the picture of a Hippo, a birdy etc etc... I saw the same card a few
years later, with the words printed underneath the pictures... 

Sorry, I try not to flirt and I *never* flirt for people that demand them.
                 
[Ellen Writes]
>The cards are done by Sandra Boynton.  Definite classics.

Ahh, as in "Chocolate, the consuming passion". It's up there with the 
greats in my book collection; Marivaux' "Up from the country", Virgil's
"Aeneid", Voltare's "L'ingenu", Ted Hughes' "Lupercal", The Book of 
Hugs...

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| This .SIG is broken beyond repair and is     |cliveg@compulink.co.uk|
| awaiting a replacement, I hope I can last... |cliveg@compulink.uucp |
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From: bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bethan's Birthday Greetings
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:39:56 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Aug11.171628.6341@midway.uchicago.edu> orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:
>
>   And, of course, if you start mentioning Amigas, then some of us will
>start talking about the Atari ST, and the whole newsgroup will rapidly
>dissolve into a flamefest over which obsolete computer is better :-)
                                      ^^^^^^^^

If it wasn't for the fact that my office mate seems to have 'problems'
where computers are concerned (she prefers the atari to a mac), then
I, like most the rest of my research group, would be using an atari
ST or something comparatively awful. Academia, huh? Who needs it.

>
>                ____
>  david parsons \bi/ Owner of a A1000, a 520 ST, a Decmate, a Pro 350,
>		 \/  A Terak 8510a, a Mega ST, and a '486.  I'm just a
>		     guy who can't say no.

Me? oh, a 'spectravideo' (don't ask) and an amstrad 8512....

>
> ObBi: It is, of course, completely typical of soc.bi that a comment on
>       Bethan's birthday has completely changed subject and is now careening
>       down the path towards a "my computer is is more sinful that yours
>       it" debate :-)

Is the 'sinful' the Bi content here? Else surely its an ObSoc.Bi comment?
(Bethan feeling pedantic - don't ask!)


                                 Bethan
Newsgroups: soc.bi,alt.usage.english
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Subject: Plural porridge? (was: The War Between Us (Long))
Organization: Eris's Restaurant
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:38:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.143919.49489@ccvax.ucd.ie> pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler) writes:
>In article <36788@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes:
>> +Is that "less" or "fewer"?  Somehow, I think you meant the latter.  :)
>Wonderful. I was taught to try out "less" or "fewer" by testing the phrase
>against the noun "soup" or "porridge": you can have less soup, but you
>certainly can't have fewer soup, although you might try fewer soups.
>Pedanticism is a lovesome thing, God wot.

This is what happens when you get back to work (and the Net) after a weekend
of having your cerebral commissures dilated by SuperTabbyGingerPusscatMan...
For some incredible reason, Peter, I seem to remember discovering somewhere
that in Scotland, at least a century or two back, "porridge" *was* plural.

Don't ask me why; don't ask for references; just that slow niggling doubt -
perhaps it's a phantom memory, like one, which troubled me for years, that
I'd woken up listening to a BBC natural history radio program and learned
that wombats have square anal sphincters, and, thus, droppings of a square
cross-section.  I half-believed, half-doubted it for years; after all, it
didn't seem to be the sort of thing that a well-bred book on zoology would
mention (it might be relegated to a small footnote in Latin to deter all
but the scholastic and the kinky), and I just daren't phone the London Zoo
to ask...  Eventually Paul Crowley, with whom I had shared this curious
half-belief, phoned them up... and - alas - it was false; a mere delusion
of a disordered and semi-conscious mind.

But I digress; perhaps "porridge" is/was plural, and thus there could
be "fewer porridge".  Care to check? it's either a rara avis or a wild
goose...

Crossposted to alt.usage.english, for obvious reasons.

				Kay
-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
From: aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Appreciate Me Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:18:16 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Well, for those on this group who know me, either in the flesh
(Tanaqui and Peter can stop grinning like that, for a start) or
merely electronically, this is a sad time.

To every time there is a season, and I'm afraid that my season
as an underpaid, underappreciated, and overworked postgraduate
who spent her days reading news and mail and very, very 
occasionally condescending to look at her thesis is almost at 
an end. The real world, and a real job paying real money beckons 
this particular badly behaved bisexual bog vampyre ;-( I'll be
around for a few days more, then my participation rather depends
on link via Janet between my new firm and my account here in 
Aberystwyth.

So, to everybody I know, and even those I don't . . . So long! It's
been great here, and I hope I'll be back in the fairly near future,
but don't hold your breath after next Wednesday!

Hugs to all

Ang

--
Angela Gilham. Dept of Computer Science | "You walked out of my front door,
University of Wales, Penglais,          | I wasn't then, but now I'm sure;
Aberystwyth. SY23 3BZ. UK               | I need to be at least 2,000 miles 
aag@aber.ac.uk      +44 970 622433      | away from you!"  --- Erasure
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Silly Quotes
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



[Bethan Writes]
>btw Anyone off to Norwich ???

Well, I don't *need* to remind you! :-), (I'm replying for the benefit of 
the net)... and if you're *all* extra nice to me, I'll even arrive wearing
my Lycra Leggings, Army Boots, Patchwork Waistcoat *and* Multicoloured Gold/Bl-
ue/Red/Orange shirt... Bring sunglasses, they are *not* an 
optional extra.

[Kay Writes]
>Of course - it looks like I'll have to be there early ...
>Malc, Judes, Justin, I know will be there; Dave and Alex seem certain; 
>Daff I'm not sure of yet...

[Owen Writes]
>Yes  - assuming I get anything back in the post from them (I'll probably
>turn up even if nothing arrives). So what exactly are you supposed to get
>back from them anyway?

You get a leaflet of the University, a form letter with a number on it 
(keep the letter - it supposedly speeds up registration), and a list of
guest houses nearby...if you want acommodation (and being salaried, I 
booked a room for me and ah... someone else) then you can book a room 
for between #13 and #20 per person per night... 

I look forward to meeting you all.

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| "When I grow up, I want to give up being a   |cliveg@compulink.co.uk|
| Journalist and learn how to write..."        |cliveg@compulink.uucp |
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe L Johnson)
Subject: Re: Grant's party... and demuffining self
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:07:28 GMT

SHARON@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU ("Sharon Snyder, Summer Ice Queen") writes:
                                                    ^^^ ^^^^^
"Ice Queen"?... yeah, right!

>Coe, party snuggle buddy extraordinaire:
>>Warning, look out!
>
><Sharon appreciates warning... looks all around frantically... look,
>up in the sky... it's a bird, it's a plane it's ...>
>
>>[coe pounces]
>It's a Coe! Yay! *snuggle* *cuddle* 
>*tumble*  <sigh>
  ^^^^^^
Oh, dear, i do believe we have ended up on the floor again... *snuggle*...
what shall we do to amuse ourselves down here? :^) 

-Coe
cjohnson@nyx.calpoly.edu  (not polyslo any more)