From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: AmiPro 3.0 and Yamanari
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:02:43 GMT

In article <1k1hh1INNa9n@cae.cad.gatech.edu> chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen) writes:
>
>"Yamanari" (or whatever), 
>
>	People have been saying that AmiPro 3.0 looks like it will NOT
>use Mirrors, but rather, will be a native PM app.  If you don't
>believe them, wait for the darned release, and stop tauting and
>insulting people.  


	1.  I have NEVER claimed that Ami Pro uses mirrors.  I have NEVER
	implied that Ami Pro will use mirrors.  If you wish to claim
	differently, quote the messages.

	I did, however, ask the following questions:

	Will it use Mirrors?  Will it be OS/2 interface consistent?  
	(or a straight port)?  What does, "Workplace shell aware,
	"--in the context given--really mean?



>Lately your posts are spiriling down into drivel,
>where as they used to be intelligent.  When people started 
>saying AP30 was going to be a native PM app, then you started bitching
>about other "theoretical things," like what WPS aware means.  Stick


	A perfectly valid issue.  WPS aware, apparently, can mean supporting
	anything from Drag and drop printing (a minor point, at best) to 
	sporting an interface (drag and drop *everything*) that might make 
	an application seem like more of a *part* of the WPS instead of
	just something that can be launched via file association with 
	a few decorations (i.e., instead of just launch-to-open,
	we add on launch-to-print, etc.).  

	The former (drag drop open/print) are _expected_ at best, and 
	trivial at least.  By promoting something as "Workplace shell
	aware" you imply something more.

	Just what was implied and what was real is, and was, the 
	question.


>with the issues and your original questions.  It just seems your
>are just trying to find something to bitch about.  When someone
>answers your bitch with information, you kindly pick up something else.


	Should I continue to argue a dead point?


>If you're unhappy, use whatever OS makes you happy, and then you
>won't need to bitch about OS/2.  However, if you are an NT advocacte,
>I guess you have to complain about something that actually exists,
>and runs... ;)  [humor impared: ignore]


	I'm not an advocate of anything when it comes to computers.
	OS/2 is, at best, a stopgap measure until something better
	comes along.  It simply lacks some key features that are
	*NEEDED*--yes, even by lowly users.  (In point, more stability,
	Unicode, and yes--security.  Especially security).  If OS/2 has
	achieved anything, it has made DOS once again a viable operating
	system for applications developers (for the time being).  It is not
	going to deliver the real needs (listed above) without MAJOR 
	renovation. 

	NT offers a lot of what would make life ever so much easier for
	people who are responsible for machines that _other people use_. 
	
	Tradeoffs?  Sure.  

	At best, I will only move to NT on one machine.  I will continue
	to use OS/2 on the smaller SX20 desktop, and--if I can 
	*ever* get OS/2 to install, on the notebook machine.  These machines
	are totally unsuited to NT (not just hardware--I'm the only one who 
	uses them--and *for me* OS/2 is fine if I install dual booting). 


>It just seems you are nitpicking all the time.


	Actually, I'm nitpicking when people make stupid statements.
	For instance, the "1,100 apps!" thread, or the "requires 36mb"
	thread.  Also, because I would like to see features in OS/2
	that IBM has not implemented.

>Curious:  Are you an amiga owner, or were you ever?


	Probably the wittiest thing you've said this whole message.
	I was one of the *first* Amiga owners.  I also owned a
	Z100, an early PC, and grew up on--gasp--an H8.  I don't 
	see this as anything but an amusing aside.


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