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From: glenn@cs.umass.edu (Yamaha RZ350 pilot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Suzuki PE info needed..
Keywords: Help I bought a Suzuki!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:59:00 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts CS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Well I guess I went off the deep end I just aquired a 1982 Suzuki PE175 (Full -
Floater) it is kind of neglected but I was able to trade an old street bike
for it. So I am in the process of tear-down and rebuild and would like to know
if anyone has or had one of these bikes. It needs a piston and a bore-job and
all the bearing's in the frame (Link,Wheel,) need to be replaced. 
I want to run it in the Vet 200 class next year (Hare Scrambles) so I am going
to clean up the porting some also.
How do these Transmissions hold up? Do the engines 
have decent power? (It ran when I got it but there was really bad piston slap)
Any other hints?   (If your suggestion is to get a new XYZ then send me the 
bucks for it.... ;} ) I just want to go out and have fun.. I ran 2 races this 
year with my old 1979 Yam IT175 and had a ball. My last race I beat Two 
kids in my class!! Not bad for a broken-down (Knees) 29 year old on a 13 year 
old bike... (It cost $25.00)  Ahhh for my old '81 Maico 490  ......(NOT)  
I raced Motocross when I was stationed in Germany in 1982-85, Did well too
and I quit riding for 6 years for my health (then I blew out both knees in 
that 6 years so I said the Hell with this...and got the IT  Fixed the trans 
and  GOD I AM HAVING A BALL... its great to ride again... 


Thanks   Glenn

Glenn@CS.UMASS.EDU
From: cadet@spade.rutgers.edu (Uniquely TiJean)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: moto auctions
Keywords: moto
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:32:57 GMT
Distribution: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Found this out in the NY Times

AUCTION  

SAT SEPT 12TH    DALLAS,TEXAS
500 CYCLES, JETSKIS, ATV'S 

800-292-7376

IT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO GET YOURSELF A BIKE.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: CR500RR...R.I.P.
Organization: CONVEX Computer Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:53:23 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


Alas...CR500RR is no longer....

It is with great regret that I have to hand over all the bits I borrowed
(wheels, carby etc..etc..) to get it to the race track....

More late nights trying to get the suspension back into dirt trim...

BUT, WOW, can't wait to get it out to the desert with the road race
gearing!!!!  Hooweee!  Love that motor!

Oh yea,....I think I'll need a steering stabiliser this time....

Cheers
George C.

PS Thanks to everyone's support (putting up with my ...er... excitement)
during the project...Got what I wanted and had a lot of fun....My nerves
have nearly recovered too..
From: news@array.com (news)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: preferred support vehicles
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:36:13 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

: In <Btx48A.Mr6@cup.hp.com> hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:
: 
: 
: >imagine you had a bunch of money (we can dream, can't we?)
: >and you wanted to get your ideal dirt bike support vehicle
: >and towing rig.  just what would that be?

Just had to add my $.02.  My preferred DBSV is a small (<26 ft) motorhome
with an enclosed trailer.  I've had the following combinations.

1) Truck and MotoTrailer

Advantages.
 A) Easy to manuver
 B) Easy on gas.

DisAdvantages
 A) Tent camping.
 B) Not enough room for 3 racers and gear. (Me, Wife, Son)
 C) Gear and Motorcycles exposed to weather and theives.

2) Motorhome and MotoTrailer

Advantages
 A) Best way to travel (IMHO) on long trips.

Disadvantages
 A) Decreased mobility.
 B) Bikes still exposed
 C) 9 MPG

3) Truck and Travel Trailer

Advantages
 A) Easy mobility.
 B) Lots of room.

DisAdvantages
 A) Bikes still exposed
 B) Have to drive a truck large enough to pull travel trailer
    on a daily basis, unless you can afford a second truck.  
    Not good on gas. 
 C) Kids get restless on long trips.
 D) 11 MPG

We have sold all the above combo's and recently bought an 
enclosed trailer.  The next purchase is an older motorhome.

BTW, my wife and son race about 10 races per year ranging
in distance from Chadron NB to Phoenix AZ.  The first year
we had the motohome, we put almost 20K miles on it.  If 
your SO races, she will appreciate the nice place to cook 
and get dressed.  I also appreciate the heater when its 
45 degrees outside :-)

 hope this helps....


  O                    Ken Murphy aka kenm@array.com              President RMEC
 <M> MerfMan          DoD #0479      '92 KTM 250 EX/C              Member COHVCO
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From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: peoples comments
Keywords: Big Blue too!!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:02:55 GMT
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com


Way way back when I was a fledgling engineer for IBM, I "occasionally" would
come in on Mondays with some limp, and some doses of moto rash.
I would catch alot of crap from a manager that I had, telling me to quit 
that stupid sport.
I know of two occasions that I was passed up for promotion because of
"participating in a non acceptable recreation".
In the end I had the last laugh.
I quit big blue to go on to more exciting work, and he kicked the bucket two 
years before his retirement.


Al "its only a scratch" Conte
From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: How do I teach the wife to descend?
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:07:47 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

Mike writes, after I ran off at the mouth some about "old folks"

>Are you calling me old!   Hey, I'm only 18 days short of being 23 years young. 
>;-)

Well, since I am just 2 weeks past my 22 birthday, that would definetly make 
you and "old" person!! :)


>Anyway, I ride by feel.  If it feels right, then thats good.  If I feel the 
>ground, well then thats bad.  I have been asked how I do some things on my bike
>only to hear myself say "Idunno!"  I like to think it's natural talent. :-b

Actually, I rode by "feel" for the longest time, but I started thinking once I 
got off a few times, and then I found out that guys like Gary Bailey actually 
know what they're talking about.


>_____________________________________________________________________________
>DoD #359         '91  CR250            |         Mike Baxter   
>AMA #607249                            |              
>TCCRA  #061    250cc int. class        |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
>Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   
>50 miles of off-road Hell              |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.
>_______________________________________|_____________________________________

Dave
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Theres a &%#@ hole in it!
Organization: CONVEX Computer Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 01:34:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>      On the back side of the magneto cover there is this HOLE! I got
>      the manual out and thank goodness the hole is isolated from the
>      magneto.  There used to be a tube that ran into hole and then
>      into the case (gromet also missing).  The manual doesn't say what
>      the hose is, but my best guess says its an oil overflow tube.
>      What else would a tube be doing in there?  I've never noticed
>      it on any other bikes.

	A hole in the magneto cover huh?  Usually, it's a breather tube to
	allow air to circulate in the dry (read no oil) magneto chamber to
	minimise any condensation forming in there. A plain hole will let
	dirt, water and small furry animals to get in (not good).

	But, you suggest there's oil in there....Some bikes do have the
	magneto running in oil (like my TT600), but there shouldn't be a
	breather there. It's usually in the cases and the magneto chamber
	vents itself in into the cases.

	What sort of bike is it?

	I'd suggest that you get on the phone and track down the parts
	that were there and put them back on. Don't let anyone talk you
	into thinking that you don't really need them.

	Lotsa luck.
	George C.
From: couyant@rox.mel.dbe.CSIRO.AU (George Couyant Convex Support)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Project XR600
Date: 7 Sep 92 04:28:03 GMT
Organization: CSIRO


 From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
> Subject: Re: Project XR600
> 
> Sounds pretty impressive.  Tell me though, what kind of racing is he using
> this bike for?  It seems that this would have to be open desert to even
> come close to making use of that power.  Scott Summers runs a stock engine

	This guy ain't no Scott Summers, but he is a speed freak...he is
	human after all...

	The bike's an enduro mount for our Victorian Enduro Series held
	mainly in our high country. It's probably the wrong bike for this,
	but who cares. It'll be a lot of work fun.  It'll also be
	his fun trail bike for our play rides...

	I'd hazard a guess that Scott's stock motor is mainly for
	reliability. 

> Did he do anything to lighten up the bike?  I've heard the the XRs are unwieldy fat pigs
	
	Nup. There ain't much you can do is there....

	Cheers
	George C.
From: hansel@convex.com (Kevin Hansel)
Subject: For Sale: 86 Honda CR-250
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:51:11 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

                  1986 Honda CR-250 
                        $1195

FEATURES
- Runs incredibly fast (competitive with current 92 models)
- Perfectly maintained
- New Piston and Rings
- Race-tuned by LCS Racing in Garland
- The 86 CR-250 is acclaimed as one the best 250 Motocrossers 
  of the 80's decade by Motocross Action and Dirt Bike magazines.  
  It is also rated as one of the ten best used Motocross buys 
  according to Motocross Action magazine. 
- Many after-market enhancements including:
  - Pro Circuit Pipe
  - Answer Roost Boost
  - Renthal Aluminum Bars
  - Bar Snake Handlebar damper
  - Boyeson Reeds
  - E.B.C. Brake Pads
  - Barnett Steel Clutch with Kevlar Friction Plates
  - Oneal Easy Clutch
  - Oneal Pro-Style Levers
  - Sidewinder Reversible Sprocket
  - Motion-Pro Terminator Clutch Cable
  - Works Connection Footpeg Wideners (brand new - still in the package)
  - Aluminum Pro-Lever Bike Stand

ALSO FOR SALE:

Motorcycle Trailer - $50

Riding Gear - $150 for everything (I will sell pieces individually as well):
- Shoei VX-5 Motocross Helmet (White/Blue)
- Oakley Goggles with Roko Quick-Strap
- Acerbis Zoom Chest Protector (Blue) 
- AXO Pentagon Chest Protector (White/Blue)
- Sidi Tracker Boots (Blue - size 10)
- AXO SuperBelt Kidney Belt (Blue)
- 3 AXO Comp-3 Jerseys
- AXO Large Gear Bag
- AXO Boot Bag

Gime me a call!  My home phone is (214) 264-0257


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CONVEX Computer Corporation
3000 Waterview Parkway
Richardson, TX 75083-3851               voice:  (214) 497-4741
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: What's happening to 500cc MX? (XR-650L)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:20:12 GMT

pams@triton.unm.edu (Roost) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.144637.469@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>>I really can't see why the magazines are getting so excited over the new
>>XR650L.

>Have you ever tried to ride a Kawasaki KLR (?) 650 on a real dirt ride?. . .
>How about a Yamaha XT-650  (or whatever their latest is)?

Neither one of those, but my little brother has an XL600. Nice in a
straight line, but other than that...

>The excitement is in how easily the XR-650L can out do these other bikes 
>in the dirt.

True, a better bike than the old XL would be nice, but I'd reserve my
excitement for a 250 pound thumper. I wonder how much a Husaberg DP bike
would cost? :-)

>I personally would not want to lug the XR-650L around the dirt either but that
>is the price you gotta pay for street legality.

Not if you pick your state carefully. My dirt-only '82 DR250 is street
licensed here in Utah. Not much excess weight, but no brakes or
horsepower either. :-)  Still, on a tight or bumpy trail, I can usually
stay a fair ways a head of my brothers XL.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: news@array.com (news)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: How do I teach the wife to descend?
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:37:30 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald) writes:
: tedg@apollo.HP.COM (Ted Grzesik) writes:
: 
: >In article <1992Sep1.224953.8631@access.usask.ca>, donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald) writes:
: >|> jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer) writes:
: >|> 	iii) Remember from street riding:  LOTS of the braking power is in the 
: >|> 	     front wheel.  Don't be afraid to use it.
: 
: >I would strongly disagree with using the front brake on a steep hill.  This
: >is an easy way to get a close up view of the hill (after flying over the
: >handlebars), with the added fun of having the bike fall on top of you.

[...]
: 
: 	On the other hand, maybe I'm just fortunate to have not endoed my 
: brains out by now.  What do some of you others think?  George?  Mike?  Come on, 
: I'm a young guy...let's have some experience talking...:)
: 

If you want to slow down on a steep hill, you must use the front brake.
There are times when you don't, but you have to know when to and when
not to.  If you are at all intimidated by front brake usage, learn to 
do stoppies.  They look dangerous, but with a little practice you can 
routinely get the rear wheel 2-3.5 feet off the ground.  I taught my
wife to do stoppies and she is no longer scared of the front brake.

.. jus my $.02..


  O                
 <M> MerfMan 
_/ \_
From: cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: How do I teach the wife to descend?
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:10:22 GMT
Organization: Sequoia Computer Systems

In article <Bu0q8x.D6v@apollo.hp.com>, tedg@apollo.HP.COM (Ted Grzesik) writes:
> I would strongly disagree with using the front brake on a steep hill.  This
> is an easy way to get a close up view of the hill (after flying over the
> handlebars), with the added fun of having the bike fall on top of you.

Okay, it depends on how steep the hill is. The steeper the hill, the more
the CG (Center of Gravity) shifts toward the front wheel, and the less
brake force it takes to flip you over forward. Also, the increase of
weight on the front wheel is going to exaggerate the effects of mud or
sand on the front tire. You can counter this somewhat by shifting your
body to the rear. Heavy sand may require *power* even on a steep downhill.

> I only use the front brake (dirt and street) when I really need it.  I feel
> much more confortable going into a rear-wheel lock slide then having my
> front wheel lock up.

I agree that front wheel lock up is nasty, but street or road you've
simply overdone it if this occurs. Rear wheel lockup is seldom desirable
either, although the consequences are seldom serious (you hardly ever
fall). To say you're not going to use the front brake, though, just means
you're giving up a huge amount of your potential braking force, and other
riders are going to zing right by you, outbraking you.

> I've taken this philosophy from my experiences riding dirt and street bikes.
> It may not be true for everyone though.

Sure, everybody has a technique that works for them, but advocating using
mostly (only?) the rear brake is a pretty extreme attitude. Road or dirt,
I'd say that you should use both brakes, taking into consideration the
total amount of traction available to you, and the amount of reserve you
think you need. Clearly, I'm not going to nail the front brake during a
turn on wet grass, but on a good dirt surface I have a lot more traction
available to the front tire, and I'll use it.

On the street, during normal weather, there's just no excuse for not being
proficient in using the front brake very aggressively. It represents such
a huge portion of your stopping power.

My experience: dirt bikes since I was about 9, raced motocross during
high school and college, road and dirt bikes since then.

				Paul Cantrell
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Subject: Re: How do I teach the wife to descend?
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:39:52 GMT

jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer) writes:

>In article <Bu0q8x.D6v@apollo.hp.com> tedg@apollo.HP.COM (Ted Grzesik) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep1.224953.8631@access.usask.ca>, donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald) writes:
>>|> jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer) writes:
>>|> 	iii) Remember from street riding:  LOTS of the braking power is in the 
>>|> 	     front wheel.  Don't be afraid to use it.
>>

>  As an aside, I did not say the above quote attributed to me.  David Donald
>said it.  Please use care when quoting others.

>  I agree with it however.  

>  And thanks for all this discussion.  It's giving me some great ideas
>to use to teach Deena (my wife) ... to decend (get your mind out of the
>gutter)!                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^

Jim:  I'll get it out of the gutter if you'll just get your feet off my head!

:) ;)

Dave

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| Saskatoon, Canada                     |  Reversal."  "Okay, that's BAD."   |
From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Theres a &%#@ hole in it!
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:22:28 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2



    Mark, My experience with sidecases has taught me that one side is wet
and the 
other dry(On most bikes that is). so if your sure that the magneto is on
that
side I doubt that there will be any oil in that area.

  If there was oil in that case at all it would be fairly obvious. The
inside will be wet and black, and your magneto would have a hard time
making any spark. 

  The hose is probably a breathing hose for the mag itself. The ignition
system needs to
have some cool air in the case to keep it from getting to hot. This you
can Mickey Monster by useing any standard small diameter hose with rubber
silicone.

   Good Luck Ken
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

   I've recently started looking for a dirt bike and, since it's turned
out to be more difficult than expected, I thought I'd ask for the advice
of the net.  What I'm looking for is a small(ish) dirt bike capable of
short hops on the street with 2 up and something I can have some fun
on as well.  The actual application is to get a bike I can hang on a
bumper mount on my truck so when I'm out camping I can take myself and
my SO around exploring.  Of course, I'd like to get in some off road
riding by myself from time to time.

   When I first started looking I figured it would be no problem.  I'd
owned several 125-350cc dirt donkers in the late 60's and early 70's
and they were all suitable.  A long enough seat, passenger pegs and
street legal.  All I've seen lately have extremely tiny seats, no
passenger pegs and all are extremely tall.

   The question is:  what are suggestions to meet my criteria for a
bike.  I'm not brand or year limited.  To summarize my criteria:
Musts:  street legal, carry 2 up
Wants:  reasonable seat height, light weight, quiet engine/exhaust,
        electronic ignition, easy to start, reliable.

Post or email is fine,

Thanks for any info,

 ----------------------- K _ E _ N --------------------------- 
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From: schottd@ucs.orst.edu (Derek Schott)
Subject: Re: How do I teach the wife to descend?
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 02:34:21 GMT

There is nothing wrong with using the front brake in any downhill
situation; as long as it is done properly. You have to really ease
into the front brake to avoid the grab, and resulting endo that  
follows. I use just as much, if not more front brake than I do
rear, in all riding situations. I guess that is why I use two sets
of front pads to every one set in the rear. Sometimes front
braking can be the thing that really saves your behind; like when
you loose balance, have your feet fly off the pegs momentarily, 
and suddenly you gain 10 mph due to the loss of any rear brake.
It also allows you to back off the rear so you don't over-heat it
in long downhill sections. The real key is a) use it gently, b) use
it lightly, and c)use it intelligently. Works for me, and I'm a
scrawny 150lbs weakling who doesn't have the nice advantage of
sitting a huge weight mass back on the rear fender to avoid
downhill wrecks.      

Good luck!

                        

-- 
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* Department of Public Safety/OSP             Corvallis OR OSU              *
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From: baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter)
Subject: Re: How do I teach the wife to descend?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:16:38 GMT

I thought you were supposed to jump down the hills, not ride down them.
_____________________________________________________________________________
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AMA #607249                            |              
TCCRA  #061    250cc int. class        |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   
50 miles of off-road Hell              |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.
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