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From: mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Thanks
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:36:45 GMT


High again all,
	I just want to thank those of you who have sent me all this
rescue information.  Keep it coming.  Any and all is appreciated.
I got a list of bay area rescue groups from Colleen Engelmann but
I don't seem to have her email address.  If you're out there Colleen
please send it to me and thanks for the information.
	I am eagerly awaiting more.  I have entered all I have thus
far and I have at least one entry for 122 breeds and I have 16 non-
breed specific groups, including one for wolf hybrids.  So I need
more for each and every breed.  
	I have just one question: what in the world is a Xoloitzcuintli
and what do they look like?

Mike
-- 
| Michael Buening	    We are not inheriting the earth from our |
| mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu  parents, we are borrowing it from our    |
|		 	    children" -- Saw it on a shirt, author   |
|					 unknown		     |
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: behavior modification or dog training
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:22:23 GMT

r hardin writes:
> If you want him to stop barking when the doorbell rings, just
> tell him ``down''...my dog won't bark on a down

Good idea.  An acquired incompatible behavior is used to decrease
an undesirable one.  Excellent example of behavior mod.

Another example: praise him FOR barking at things you want him to bark
at.  This increases the slope of the discrimination, barking more at
appropriate times means barking less at other times.

-- Jon
--
Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jack@au-bon-pain.lcs.mit.edu (Jack Costanza)
Subject: dog kennel for sale in Mass.
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science, Cambridge, Mass.
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:20:19 GMT


I am selling a new 6'x6'x12' kennel.
Its original cost was $350.00 will sell for
$275.00 or BO.
email or call (617)253-1450
              (508)478-5237

			-jack
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: teething
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:15:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.190458.440@news.wesleyan.edu>,
RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) wrote:
> 
> My pup is teething (losing baby teeth, getting adult teeth).  Obviously her
> gums are really bothering her (won't eat non-soggy food; won't play favorite
> 'fetch' games when she has to use her teeth to pick up the ball; mouths
> everything & whines a bit, even while chewing; etc.)
some stuff deleted
> I'd like to give her some relief, but don't want to give her a "cure" thats
> worse than the original problem...

I take those long thin rolled rawhide chewies (that are about the size of 
a pencil), soak them in water (or chicken broth) for an hour or two and 
then put them in the freezer.  These "rawhidesickles" only stay frozen 
for 20 minutes or so, but they are perfect for shoving back into those 
hard to reach back teeth spaces.  When one has thawed, just pop it back 
in the freezer and give the pup a "fresh" one !!

Kathy
--------------------
Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
Puppy report:  5 girls, 2 boys -  :-)
Everyone is healthy and happy (and noisy) !!
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: New England and National
Date: 14 Nov 92 11:29:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

Eric,
Would you please add All Breed Rescue Association (ABRA) to your list.
The phone # is 713-342-3078. This is based in Houston, Texas. It was
started about a year ago by Susan & Dan Cloer. What they did was
organize all the breed rescues and added a few to the list. Persons
calling this number can get information on breed rescue, adopt an animal
or place an animal for adoption.
At the last Astrohall Dog Shows, they had a showcase of rescued dogs and
thier new owners. If I remeber correctly they had somewhere in the
neighborhood of 250 participants.

Kathleen Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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 . OLX 2.1 . Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
From: mischler@jolt.cubic.com (Dave Mischler)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Question about Schutzhund Training
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:07:46 GMT
	<rasmussenc.53.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>
Organization: /usr/mischler/.organization

In article <rasmussenc.53.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu writes:

>  I have a question along this line.  Yesterday, I was talking to an owner
>  of a doberman puppy with whom she is "doing Shutzhund".  She said that 
>  she tells people that if they want to come over to her house they better
>  be prepared for a 5 month old puppy jumping all over them because she's not
>  reprimanding him or trying to discourage this due to the Shutzhund training.
>
>  Is this true?  Does Shutzhund training mean no obedience training?  I get 
>  the impression she is trying to "let the dog be himself".  Won't she end up
>  with a monster?

This sounds like what most Schutzhund people do with young puppies.
The idea is to build confidence and drives in the young dog, so that
the temperament and willingness will not suffer when the dog does
formal obedience later.  If you have read the working dog FAQ then you
know that Schutzhund dogs must be obedient, although they do not
generally have to be as precise as in the AKC obedience ring (although
in AKC the dog need not remain down and at heel under gunfire :-).

My current puppy, a six month old GSD, sits and comes and downs and
walks with me (he really doesn't heel yet) for food or prey objects.
The most negative reinforcement he has ever gotten is being picked up
by the scruff of the neck and shaken (to teach "no").  My usual
technique for "no" is to out him, then call him and praise him
exuberantly.  If I think he might not come then I will go get the dog
to prevent him from learning that recalls are optional.  Oh yeah, and
jumping on people and biting me in play are allowed: he must not get
the idea that these things are bad because he will have to do them
later in the protection work.

Right now he is just playing and learning good behaviors.  Later on he
will begin to work and the good behaviors will be focused into real
tracking, obedience and protection routines.

Dave Mischler
mischler@cubic.com
From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Re: shelter puppies
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:55:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <64640007@hpcss01.cup.hp.com> bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett) writes:
>/ hpcss01:rec.pets.dogs / rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls) /  9:40 am  Nov 13, 1992 /
>In article <1992Nov9.051443.14608@midway.uchicago.edu>
>		betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead) writes:
>< a wonderful article about volunteering at a shelter>
>
>I have a question for those who have volunteered at shelters *and* have
>pets at home.  When I was going to talk to a breeder (the one that I
>eventually chose), I mentioned that I had been to a local shelter and
>she asked that I not wear the same shoes to her house the next day.  She
>was afraid that I could have picked up something at the shelter and
>brought it to her kennel.  Has this been a problem or concern for any of
>you who have volunteered or worked at a shelter and have your own kids
>at home?  Is this only a concern for really young puppies?  Comments?
>
>Robbin (rhuls@pixel.kodak.com)
>
>Yikes, I am struggling with the editor here... In our shelter, we have one
>area where we keep stray dogs that we think have kennel cough.  We wipe our
>shoes on a pad with disinfectant when we leave that area.  Otherwise, I take
>no precautions, and have never had a problem.  The chances of your picking
>up a virus in public exist too, but she's probably right that they are higher
>in a kennel building.  But it has not concerned me.  I do wash my hands when
>I leave, though.
>

I am not qualified to answer based on the criteria above but when have I
ever let that minor detail stop me!  Anyway, I do have the scoop on that.
Most breeders require puppy visitors to remove shoes and wash their hands
prior to playing with puppies.  Puppies' immunities come from their mother
and there is a possible lapse time between when the mother's immunities
kick off and the vaccinations kick on.  So, breeders are particularly
concerned about germs.  Since the backgrounds and vaccination schedules of
shelter dogs are potentially questionable, I would think that a breeder
would be particularly concerned about that.

As for older dogs, if your dogs are current on their vaccinations
(including ones for kennel cough) they will probably not be affected by
this risk, but little guys are definately at risk of disease.  After
working in a shelter, I would probably disinfect my shoes and DEFINATLY
wash my hands very carefully (my face too if I had been receiving doggy
kisses from strange dogs! :)

If you use sensible precautions, I sincerely doubt you'll have any problems
with your little guy.

Cheers,

--
Liza Lee Miller         My dogs are labradorable!     liza@pangea.stanford.edu
Cibola Labradors            Field * Show * Fun                    415/326-5309
Cibola's Misty Mountain Hop--Hopper                   Mistypoint Kashmir--Kash
	            Campbellcroft Cibola Rosette -- Rosie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jack Dean)
Subject: Re: Sighthounds and Flea/Tick collars
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:53:09

Even though your hounds haven't had any reaction to the insecticides
in flea and tick collars, I would suggest that you remove them.
Afghans do have a sensitivity to the insecticides, just like
greyhounds.  

You should also be aware that there is some evidence that all
sighthounds tend to have the same sensitivity to anesthetics that
greyhounds have.  If you ever have to have your hounds put under for
surgery, make sure that your vet is familiar with the the sighthound's
sensitivity to anesthetics, and barbituates in particular.



>>>>> In article <seale.722367874@bcserv>, seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff)) writes:

 Jeff> I know that greyhounds are sensitive to the insecticides in flea/tick
 Jeff> collars. I also read last night that Afghan Hounds are also sensitive
 Jeff> to the same insecticides (much to my surprise). I guess I should have
 Jeff> made the connection (greyhound-Afghan-sighthound). Are these
 Jeff> insecticides bad for Afghans as well? My 2 haven't seemed to have
 Jeff> any reactions to them.
 Jeff> Thanks,
 Jeff>    Jeff (and Kashmir & Santa Fe)

--
Jack Dean                         dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: behavior modification or dog training
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:02:11 GMT

r hardin writes:
> facts are so hard to come by, owing to philosophical skepticism

Hasn't been a problem for others.  Sorry it's a problem for you.

But if you can't come up with the relevant facts and history I
specified, I can't give you the causal account of behavior you
requested.  Any more than I could predict the weather based on
talk of what the clouds think or the sun understands.

-- Jon
--
Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hecht@hsi.com (Alice Hecht)
Subject: Re: why are so many dalmations deaf?
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:11:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.191115.6945@infonode.ingr.com> bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
>
>I think deafness is somewhat linked to white color.  The only other
>breeds I've heard of with a high rate of deafness are white Bull Terriers
>and Argentine Dogos (which are white too).

Also, boxers that are born white, have a 1 in 4 chance of being deaf.
The breeder that I bought my brindle boxer from told me this.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: julieann@cmhcsys.cmhcsys.com (Julieann Fitchwell)
Subject: Re: Shopping w/your pet...
Organization: CMHC Systems
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:18:58 GMT

In article <Alex.70.721663383@camp.wpic.pitt.edu>, Alex@camp.wpic.pitt.edu (Alex Ferguson ) writes:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 	Just a little note for any of you in the Pittsburgh, PA area.  There 
> is a new store opening in the Century Square Plaza (Next to the Dollar Tree) 
> by Century Three Mall.  It's called the Pet Food SuperMart - the grand 
> opening is Saturday, Nov. 14 at 10:00 (?I think 10 ?) anyway - they're 
> having door prizes & contests for their new customers & their pets 
> (_YES_They_encourage_you_to_BRING_your_pet_shopping_with_you_in_ 
> the_store!!!) - anyway just thought some of you may be interested.
> 
> 
> 
> 						Alex
> 
> /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
> | Alexander J. Ferguson III                                          |
> | Database Manager, DAC (Data Analytic Core)                         |
> | Child Psychiatry, Western Psychiatric Institute & Clinic           |
> | University of Pittsburgh Medical Center                            |
> |                                                                    |
> | alex@camp.wpic.pitt.edu   voice (412) 624-3705                     |
> |                           fax   (412) 624-0223                     |
> \~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/
> 


JF>We have 2 or 3 of these in the Columbus, OH area and they are great!! The
JF>prices on most of the stuff, esp. food, is really good IMHO.
JF>BTW, around Thanksgiving and Easter you can have your pet's picture taken
JF>with Santa/Easter Bunny. (At the Col. Area stores).
JF>The proceeds go to the Humane Society. Our first litter of Boston's were 
JF>5 weeks old when we had their's done with Santa. The picture is one of
JF>the cutest mementos we have!
JF>Also, you can take *any* pet that you can leash _and_ control to the
JF>store with you. I've also taken cats and rabbits!
JF>Have fun! -- JulieAnn
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|                  CMHC Systems, Inc.                    | 
|                  Dublin, Ohio 43017                    |
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bds@mbunix.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: Re: teething
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:05:07 GMT

In article <kathy_buetow-181192093936@physio103-1.life.uiuc.edu> kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.190458.440@news.wesleyan.edu>,
>RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) wrote:
>> 
>> My pup is teething (losing baby teeth, getting adult teeth).  Obviously her
>> gums are really bothering her (won't eat non-soggy food; won't play favorite
>> 'fetch' games when she has to use her teeth to pick up the ball; mouths
>> everything & whines a bit, even while chewing; etc.)
>some stuff deleted
>> I'd like to give her some relief, but don't want to give her a "cure" thats
>> worse than the original problem...
>
>I take those long thin rolled rawhide chewies (that are about the size of 
>a pencil), soak them in water (or chicken broth) for an hour or two and 
>then put them in the freezer.  These "rawhidesickles" only stay frozen 
>for 20 minutes or so, but they are perfect for shoving back into those 
>hard to reach back teeth spaces.  When one has thawed, just pop it back 
>in the freezer and give the pup a "fresh" one !!
>
>Kathy
>--------------------

You can also just use frozen washcloths.  Soak them in water, twist
them, and freeze them.  Teething puppies love them, and they're
reusable. 

Barry


From: chan@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Tina Chan)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:01:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Jennifer Lott-Please Share Xmas Puppy Story
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: intrigue@stein.u.washington.edu (Shelley Vogel)
Subject: Is my puppy sick?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:39:47 GMT



I have another question for all your knowledgeable dog owners.  I
got such a wonderful response to my question about whether Morgan
was humping [that's such a crass term, but ... you got the idea].
I noticed yesterday that she seemed just a bit listless.  Even
though my SO is able to come home during the day and runs her
little legs off a couple of times a day, usually when I get home
at 5:30 or so, she's ready to romp again, but last evening she
was just tired.  She went into her crate and snoozed - hardly
bothering me at all while I cooked dinner.  She did come out and
play for a while, but went to bed early.  She slept the whole
night through (which is not a bad thing, actually), but she usually
eats all her breakfast and she just picked at it this morning.
She did have her usual poop, although it wasn't much, and she
gave up rather quickly when I went to the other room to get ready
for work - usually she whines and yips at the barrier until I
come back to the kitchen.

What do you think?  When she's peppy, she's her usual self, but
it just seems that she's acting a little more mature than she should.
Daniel's keeping an eye on her today - checking the quantity and
quality of her stool, since he was a bit concerned that she might
have gotten into the bathroom waste paper yesterday.... she seems
to think Kleenex is a wonderful chewy toy.  But it seems to me that
she's sleeping a bit more than she has been.  That's it, mostly.

Thanks for your insight.

Shelley
From: rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Retrieving the Paper
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:02:47 GMT
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia

In article <1eh853INNa5k@talon.UCS.ORST.EDU> kgamble@OES.ORST.EDU (Kevin Gamble) writes:
>From: kgamble@OES.ORST.EDU (Kevin Gamble)
>Subject: Retrieving the Paper
>Date: 19 Nov 92 23:31:47 GMT

>I have a Flat Coated Retriever puppy (12 weeks now) that I'd
>like to train to bring in the paper. I've been taking her
>out on leash every morning, and she attempts to pick up the
>paper and return it to the house. Sometimes the paper is too
>large for her, or it's folded loosely, and she can't handle it.
>On these days I have a smaller paper that I drop for her and
>she carries it in instead. She is _really_ proud of herself
>when she lets me take the paper from her inside the house. 
>She thinks this is all great fun.

I thought I'd interject with a funny story -- When Kalli was about
6 months old, we moved to a neighborhood where it was safe for her
to go to the mailbox/end of the driveway by herself.  We didn't have
paper boxes -- the newspapers were bundled and tossed at the end of
each person's driveway.  So, my roommates and I taught Kalli, with
great success to retrieve our newspaper.  Suddenly, we were being blessed
with 2 newspapers every day, then 3, then.... the neighbors began to 
call us and complain that they were no longer getting their newspapers!
tehehehehe.  It was pretty funny. :-)


Still missing our Golden girl......-Chris R
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: tmason@ccscola.Columbia.NCR.COM (Tim Mason)
Subject: Re: Abuse
Organization: NCR Corp, CCSD, Columbia, SC
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:54:25 GMT

In article <102216@bu.edu> smott@bu.edu (SHARON MOTT) writes:
>I feel that animals have just as many equal rights as humans do!
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, both dogs and humans have an equal NUMBER of rights.

HUMAN                               DOG                              
1. Life                             1. Bark at the mail deliverer.  
2. Liberty                          2. Lick a stranger's hand.     
3. Pursuit of happiness             3. Sniff other dog's butts.       

:) :) :)

Do you also think animals have the SAME rights as humans.

Seriously, this belongs in some other news group.  If you can't find the
appropriate one, use misc.misc or something.
-- 
---------------------------
Tim Mason
Tim.Mason@ccscola.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: New Friend
Keywords: puppy
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:59:13 GMT

Over the weekend, we (Mom and I) acquired a new puppy.  My sister had
originally agreed to take it, but her husband declined the honor -to
put it nicely.  The puppy is a Pekinese (aren't they the one's with the
blunt little faces?), about 3-4 months old, very very furry, and male.
Mom doesn't much care for male dogs, but she is making an exception with
this one.  We got him from the neighbors who had gotten him from a friend.
They were trying to find a home for him instead of him going off to the
Humane Society.  Another little pile of fertilizer saved!  The neighbors
called him Gizmo because he is very reminiscent of a Gremlin.  He has
this funny purry-growl.  We, however, have named him Jamie.  He gets
along beautifully with our 7 month old Wired Haired Minature Dachsund.
They both have a love of chasing our outside cats.  The funny thing is
our inside cat hasn't figured out what Jamie is yet.  She has this terrific
"what the hell is it" look whenever she sees him.

I invented a new walk this morning, too.  Large, high steps created to
save one from being tripped or chewed on.

margaret
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: elisa <elisa@jazz.concert.net>
Subject: Chewing question
Organization: MCNC
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:32:56 GMT

I have a four month old chocolate lab.  Needless to say, he is a chewing
machine.  I call him Mr. Mouth.
Recently he got his mouth on a pair of sunglasses.  It didn't take long
for him to ruin them.  My question 
is this - should I let him keep them?  Or should I take them away from
him?  Would letting him continue
to chew on them reinforce bad behavior or not?  

I'd appreciate any suggestions or advice. Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Re: What human foods should dogs not eat (besides chocolate)?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:20:15 GMT


not as toxic as chocolate, but i'm told dogs
should not be given nuts because of the high
phosphorous content (can lead to bladder stones).
actually, people have posted that some whole nuts
(walnuts?) are indeed toxic.

and with t-day approaching, remember that giving
your dog the turkey skin can cause acute pancreatitis.
it seems when i was a kid, the dogs always got the skin,
but my vet says that being on call on t-day is just a
series of dogs coming in very sick after eating the
turkey skin, and some of them don't make it.
From: lott@egr.msu.edu (Jennifer Lott)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Puppy Christmas story
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:01:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Division of Engineering Research

Hi there,

For the person who posted that they wanted this story, I've got it.  I 
accidentally erased your address.  E-mail me personally (please), if you 
don't get a response from anyone else.

Jennifer Lott