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From: Sysop.of.*.NEWBED:FREDERICTON,CANAD@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Sysop of * NEWBED:FREDERICTON,CANAD)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: HELLO
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 10:52:27 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi Anne
       
I have received your message on NEWBED here in Canada


 > Hi!  My name is Anne Rowe.  I am the associate specialist for
 > business education at the Virginia Department of Education.

At this, the New Brunswick Department of Educatiobn, we support about 2000 
teachers and students throughout this Canadian province. We also support a 
joint communications project in the Maritime Provinces of Canada.

Just now I am putting the finishing touches on a database in support of 
curriculum in Business Education and a group of teachers who wanted their 
students in remote (rural) areas to have an opportunity to us a 'real' 
database in the clasroom. Around this database will grow up lesson plans and 
such which will show to what use the access of data in this fashion can mean.

When completed at the end of the spring semister, the high schools involved 
will have collected information on approximately 350 students.

Also the students will have access to other in the region and with k12 sites.


 > I use telecommunications to communicate with other business
 > educators and students.  Our teachers use the network to
 > communicate with other business educators and to teach
 > telecommunications to their students.  

Our little system has been in operation since 1983 and we have grown ever 
since. Our system has been nationally recognized in Canada for its support to 
educators in this province.

We still have difficult times ahead what with funding and staffing and 
getting the word around about the value of telecommuications.

My really per peeve is that lately there seems to be the need to evaluate 
and 'quantify' the value of these services to a classroom or schools.
 
If you have any thoughts on that one, I'd like to hear about it.

William Brydges
NEWBED 1:255/2
INTERNET: bridges@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca



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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Fredmail
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 22:38:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

TK>Hi Cal! Back to school again.  Is it every nice not to be
worrying about TK>Lesley weekends.  I hope all is well with you.  Do
you have the internet TK>number for FredMail?  Are you going to the
conference in Worceste Oct 23+? TK>Bob Watson and I are going and I
plan to catch all the telecomm sessions. TK>Hope to see you there.
TK>Bye Terry

Terry-
This message was found in the Business Education echo but has no
bearing on business edcuation. Please refrain from posting further
off-topic messages like this in this echo. The "Chat" echoes are
better suited for this kind of thing....

Thanks

=jack=
K12net Council


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Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
From: arowe@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (B. Anne Rowe)
Subject: Re: HELLO
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:52:56 GMT

William:

Hello.  Because our VA.PEN network is offered at no charge to
users who have the equipment, software, and phone line to
accommodate it, we have not had to provide justification to
school divisions for using the telecommunications system.  The
two problems I encounter are (1) teachers' fears of having to
learn the use of the network, and (2) getting school divisions
to provide a phone line where the unit will be accessible for
classroom use.

Please pass on any tips for using telecommunications in the
business curriculum.  Good luck in all your efforts.

Anne
From: Terry.Kirby@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Kirby)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: Reply to Hello
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 20:14:08 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Thanks for the reply Anne.  We are currently undergoing restructuring at our high school.  Our principal Tom Forcella is fantastic. He has really got us off to a great start.  We seem to be ahead of schedule. He is at a conference today giving a talk on restructuring.  Unfortuneately, he was an unsuccessful candidate for our Super's job.  This was dispite overwhelming support by townspeople and teachers.  Our previous supers was Bob Antonucci. He left to become Com.of Ed. in Mass. Tom is a finalist for Ass
t-Sup in nearby community.  It will be a shame to lose him. Hopefully the new Princ. will keep our restructuring alive.
What kinds of things are you involved with concerning restructuring?
Terry


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From: arowe@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (B. Anne Rowe)
Subject: Re: Reply to Hello
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 17:53:20 GMT

Hi, Terry.  
We are restructuring all education in Virginia.  First, we are
developing a Common Core of Learning (CCL) for all students up to age
16.  Then, restructuring is set up to complement the CCL in
three levels/stages:  Early Childhood, Pre and Early
Adolescent, and Adolescent Education.  Demonstration sites for
the Early Childhood projects began this year with full
implementation next year.  Pre & Early Adolescent Ed.
pilots during 93-94 with implementation 94-95, and Adoles.
pilots 94-95 with implementation 95-96.  Vocational Education
is restructuring within Adolescent (and in some areas in the
other two levels).  We are pleased that it is a fully
integrated effort.  It will be interesting to see the results
of all these efforts!  Good luck with your projects.

Anne
From: Terry.Kirby@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Kirby)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: FredMail
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 20:07:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hi Susan:
I am a business teacher at Falmouth High School on the Cape. Tonight I talked to one of your students Mimi Cove. She suggest I try you for the number of FredMail.  I list a number 619-757-3180. But I am having trouble getting through. If this is not the number do you know the correct one?  And do they by chance have an Internet #? 
Mimi sounds like a very nice your lady.  She mention that you would be surprise by her talking to a teacher at night. She mention that you leave assignments on BBS for students. I would really like to hear about that. I am trying to get Telecom. into our courses.  Hope to here from you.
Terry


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From: Cy.Huang@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Cy Huang)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Self-introduction
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:16:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan



Hello, hello, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Paul C. Y. Huang, a semi-retired fincancial consultant and teacher living in Taiwwan. I received my education from the University of Chicago with a M.A. degree in Economics. Now I am a consultant with the Taiwan Stock Exchange, and manage the Taiwan Institute of Finance and the Future's Astrological Center as hobbies. My star sign is Sagitarius and would like to make many friends all over the world. I will reply any letter from anyone. So.....



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From: arowe@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (B. Anne Rowe)
Subject: Re: Self-introduction
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:47:01 GMT

Hello!  Welcome aboard the network.

Anne Rowe, Virginia Department of Education
From: Sysop.of.*.NEWBED:FREDERICTON,CANAD@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Sysop of * NEWBED:FREDERICTON,CANAD)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: NEWBIE!
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 10:41:15 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi Joy

In a message from your TBBS system you state:

 > We are very happy to now be a part of this network.
 > BBS America is a 6-line TBBS operation in Richardson (suburb
 > of Dallas)operated by Jay Gaines and Ron Ellis.  We have 9
 > BBS'es operating on our system and the most exciting one is
 > our newest:  The 3 R's BBS with over 600 educational files
 > online for D/L, 50+ educational echoes from Fido and now K-12,
 > And a ton of local message areas.  We also provide online chat
 > for students, parents, teachers, and tutors.
 >                                           

Thanks for joing K12. We, too, have a TBBS system with 16 lines.
We are on a packet network here in the Maritime Provinces of Canada.
THe system is just getting gathered again after the summer break, but 
we will soon be supporting upwards of 2000 teachers, student, and 
adminstrators.

 > Our users are eagerly awaiting participation in K12.

We have many users of K12 and once they have the bug, the enthusiasism grows 
and grows.

 > Let the messages begin!

Hope to hear from you, too, from time to time.

William Brydges
NEWBED 1:255/2




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From: Terry.Kirby@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Kirby)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Reply
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 16:10:20 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hi Susan:
Thanks for returning the message. I am very interesting in trying somethings. Two of my classes are Office Management & Bus Computers. I would like to have them experience telecom. I am open to any suggestions. Could you tell me alittle more about how you handle your homework assignments etc.  Do most of your students have access to a computer & modem? 
Thanks Terry


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From: Terry.Kirby@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Kirby)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Reply to Jack
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 16:04:54 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Jack:
I am a business ed teacher and Cal Carpenter was my instructor with Leslie. I am not sure what board he listens to and if there is better way of doing it please let me know.  This does have a lot to do with Business ed because I am attempting to setup of Email types of projects and I had heard aboaut FredMail as a possible vehicle.
Terry


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From: Cal.Carpenter@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Cal Carpenter)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: FredMail
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 21:08:34 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hi Terry... Great to hear from you.  I was teaching the telecom class in Billings, MT.  I loggged into the K12 net on their local BBS and surprized myself when I received your message.  Unfortunately, the FredMail system is not yet located on the Internet for remote access.  I believe that you may be able to exchange E-Mail (such as on many Fido Nets now) but that is limited.  The closest FredMail node to us is in Connecticut.  I will be unable to attend the MassCUE conference this year.  My first miss.  M

y daughter is a senior this year and we have SEVERAL weekends of college visits and interviews scheduled.  I hope you have a great time.  By the way keep your network eyes open for Lesley students (with conference topics out there) from the Billings, MT area.  Also in November there will be a group on-line from Milwaukee.  Keep in touch... Cal


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From: Susan.Barocas@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Susan Barocas)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Reply
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 11:58:58 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

I guess I gave you some ideas about that in a message I just sent you.
 
Homework is about the grammar and syntax of the language.  Programs are written and coded during class. I allow students to make corrections on any of their programs for a new and better grade.  One of the the great things about computers is the ease with which you can make corrections.  Why not let them experience that too! 
 
Susan


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From: James.Maguire@f95.n772.z3.fidonet.org (James Maguire)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Macintosh Security Programmes
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:10:55 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/95 - A.O., Auckland

Gidday to all, The main object of this post is to try and find out about some
secrity programmes. We have about 50 Mac Classics soon to be upgraded to 40 MB 
HD's, these are all connected in two seperate networks (about half on a SE/30
and the remainder on a LC). We have run FileGuard previously on a few
individual classics, we feel this is an excellent programme, however after
inquiring about site licenses' we nearly died. We have looked at At Ease from
Apple and then found this does a great front end job, but when it comes to
bypassing the software, it is easy just use the boot disk or the disk drive.
So here are the questions :- What other security programmes (by the way, what
we need is so that users can't change the HD to a certain extent) are there ?
Or Is it possible to remove the boot disk ?
Thanks A lot
James Maguire
King's College


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From: Kevin.Wilhite@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Wilhite)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: SPORTS CARDS
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 20:54:08 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:356/11.0 - The College, Coos Bay OR

 
 1984-92 Sports Cards. Thousands of cards. For more info. Call
 269-1589 and ask for Kevin. Asking $150.00 O.B.O.



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From: Per.Jonsson@f418.n205.z2.fidonet.org (Per Jonsson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Query
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 11:05:26 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 2:205/418 - Nolaskolans TCL, Ornskoldsvik

 JF> I have been away for two weeks holiday and have just seen your msg. 
 JF> As you can see, you have reached 'down-under'  :-) 
 
G'day! How are you? Summer there now? It's snowing here today... 
 
PJ  
  

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From: Paul.Winters@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Winters)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Ibm iclas
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 16:38:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

BR{I was wondering if anyone out there uses IBM computers with a Novell network
BR{and IBM ICLAS software???  If so, I would like to know how things are going
BR{and any problems that you might have with it.

   We use them extensively.  Pretty stable unless you use them with a
   bridge.  In that case we've had some problems.  HOWEVER, our IBM
   Systems Engineer is supposed to be out the week of the 19th with a bug
   fix.  Otherwise, I think they do very well in keeping the complexity of
   the network away from techno-phobic teachers while letting power users
   drop to the h: prompt and actually work the way they're comfortable.
   I'm pleased with ICLAS.
 * OLX 2.2 * A phelbotomist's work is all in vein
  ORIGIN-New Albany H/S Eagle's Echo BBS(New Albany, Ohio)



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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Rob Robinson
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 07:06:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Hi Marc, you said in part............

MR>  Ed ... Thanks a lot. Robbie is a great guy.

  Seems so. You should have another message from me after I talked with
  him.

MR>  The last I talked with him (almost a year MR>  ago now) he was
MR>  trying to find a BBS to hook up with.

  Sure, he told me he had done that but was unable to find a feed that
  went out from the local Columbus area. I'm not sure he is too much
  into Telcom though. Anyway, I gave him our number and he should be
  contacting you in this conference.


MR>  I have lost (in the maze of sub-directories) our earlier writings.
MR>  Are you associated with the school system?

   That sure happens easy enough<g>. Only associated in a broad sense.
   We feed two school districts here in Central Ohio. We are the only
   K12Net feed in Central Ohio. Our system is an educational only BBS
   that we brought up last year as a non-profit corporation.
   Unfortunately, I seem to be the biggest contributor<g>.

Peace..........................Ed

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From: Garry.Ehman@f37.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Garry Ehman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: Ibm iclas
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 09:26:10 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/37 - TeeWunKay, Regina Sask

Hello Bill!

05 Oct 92 21:42, Bill Roehm wrote to All:

 BR> I was wondering if anyone out there uses IBM computers with a Novell
 BR> network and IBM ICLAS software???  If so, I would like to know how things
 BR> are going and any problems that you might have with it.


I run one of these.  45 IBM computers, model 25s 286-25s and 35sxs.  We have one Model 65sx server at present and are adding another one and 10 - 20 more computers soon.   We use Neware 2.2 and ICLAS 1.40.

The system is used mainly for Computer Applications classes at the grade 10 level, Computer Science at the grade 11 & 12 level and for a couple of English Classes (Grades 9 & 11).  The computers are located in 2 labs, each with 21 computers.

As to problems, well there are always those.  It is not the easiest thing to set up 3rd party software to run on a network, let alone ICLAS.  But ICLAS is a
reasonably user friendly interface and students can be up and running quickly so can teachers, although it usually takes them longer.  :)

Garry


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From: Ronald.Kellett@f296.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ronald Kellett)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTERS
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:38:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/296 - Techroom, Honeoye NY


     I have Pc-Tools. I use it all the Time. I Am not (didn't) watch the
 debate because I went to a BOB DYLAN concert w/ my Dad. I was interester and
 will probably watch the next ones. Telix (not TELEX) is what i use I have all
three (procomm, gt, and telix) but only telix is registered. Pc-Tools is
 AWESOME. What type of Modem do you have? What Speed? What type of Computer?
 Do You Follow the U.S. Politics closely? I try to even though I am not
 allowed to vote till next year. What Do you think of Pres. Bush/Gov.
 Clinton/R. Perot? I like Pres. Bush, but am listening in to make my final
 decision.
                  Ronald Kellett


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Karel the Robot
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:04:10 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day All,

Does anyone in the USA or Canada know of a source to buy "Karel the
Robot"?

We have a State Education Resource Centre (South Australia) that has
developed it for Australia. It costs about A$135.00 for a site licence.

Karel is a program to teach young (and old!) students structured
programming. It is an excellent introduction to stuctured programming
before teaching students PASCAL.

I have been using it with Grade 8 students.

ooroo

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From: Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Fran O'gorman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: msgs here lately?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 22:03:57 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/94 - Monroe Electronic M, Monroe NY

 BK> Hi Fran!
     
 BK> Reading loud and clear here in Sydney, Australia!
     
 BK> Brad  
 BK>  
 BK> ---
 BK>  * Origin: Sydney Education BBS - Sydney University (3:712/628)
     
Wow, neat!  My computer group will be thrilled to see this... I
even told them we could possibly be in contact with people as far
away as Australia...

I'm getting the msgs now... don't know what happened there for the
while...if you know of a class of students about 12 or 13 yrs old
in age that would like to correspond with us, we'd be thrilled
even more!  :-)

--Fran


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From: Phil.Spooner@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Spooner)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: Elementary Computer Curriculum
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 18:14:54 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Thanks a bundle for the suggestion.  I do use LOGO with elementary 
kids and have been using the LOGO PLUS version.  I'm trying to connect 
LOGO to classroom learning--I know it connects well, but I am the 
media specialist, and half the battle is communicating the language's 
merits to the computer un-oriented classroom teacher.
 
Do you have any experience with LOGO Writer?  I'm considering it for 
the software collection.
 
Thanks again, Peace!   Phil



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From: Andre.Rombauts@f2206.n293.z2.fidonet.org (Andre Rombauts)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Logo
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:51:07 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:293/2206 - Teachers' Forum, Fleron


 > generalized to other areas.  The problem is, this
 > transfer doesn't take place.  Learning LOGO is good
We don't have sufficent testing information to say this is true or not. It seems that too many people were not willing to use the Logo environment because it'is rather "time consuming"...

.]I[. Andre Rombauts


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: Query
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:52:06 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Fran,

FO> JL> Is this text going out on the net? I have written a couple of
FO> JL> texts in this echo, but have never received any reply...

FO>Hi!  I was asking the same question but in my case not for lack of
FO>replies but for lack of msgs altogether!  But now I AM receiving
FO>msgs and even got some verification on the success of my outgoing
FO>mail.

OK, you didn't get from here yet....  :-)

ooroo

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