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From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: hair
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:29:54 GMT
Organization: Something close to nothing, but different than the day before

rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>>space@spectrx.saigon.com (b0b runyon) writes:
>>>Hey .... I hope its not just a fad - but I have been noticing 
>>>women with HAIR on their legs & underarms (!)
>>I suspect this means you have been watching the Republican Convention.
>
>     I agree.  But, I also suspect that he has been noticing stupid
>Christians following their so-called perfect bible.

Well, there is one more possibility....he could be watching ignorant 
narrow-minded morons spouting off on something they clearly know little
about. *Some* Christians think the Bible is perfect and feel superior to
everyone else. Others dwell in reality. Christians seem to be the de riguer 
target these days, so on every newsgroup I read with the exclusion of, perhaps,
rec.arts.disney has erupted into one of these oh-so-cool little flare-ups.

The saddest thing is, if this was directed at almost anyone else, there would
be legions screaming...not so the Evyl Empyre of Christianity/Roman Catholicism.

> W. David Rohwer   

    Tyger
-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break 
 
                       
        
Newsgroups: ba.singles,alt.religion
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: Stupid Christians?? & what's this doing in this group anyway?????
Organization: TFS
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:42:58 GMT

bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley) writes:
>	There are no "rules" to being a Christian.  Not all Christians
>must behave the same way and believe the same things.  That is the
>beauty of it...it totally depends on the individual and the strengths of
>his personal faith.
...
>	And how did I do this you ask?

(etc. - send me the forms, sure. (personal rsvp pls.)

>	And for those of you who are offended by this, I'm sorry.  This
>country allows anyone to believe in anything that they want to (or don't
>want to, for that matter) as long as it is not being force-fed to people.
>Religion is personal and my personal beliefs shouldn't interfere with
>you having your personal beliefs.
>

...

>amazing to me how many people in the group move away from you as if you
>are going to be struck by lightning.  Do they actually think that their
>God is so cruel that he would hurt or kill someone for something they
>said?  I've done this and had friends say, "Dude, I wouldn't even joke
>about that.  It'll catch up to you someday."  I just don't understand
>it.  I mean, hey, if God can't take a little harassment, who can?
>- Tim

I'm a member of the OTO. I joined because I thought the people were neat,
but the only reason I could accept to identify myself with it was because
(& so far as I could discern!) according to its OWN definition, >>I<< was
the only person who could define myself & I have the responsibility to be
true to myself (and I said Yeah, even if it means deep-sixing the OTO!).

I don't like Christianity because it (to my mind) posits an objective
reference outside one's self. The problem with that is that the objective
reference was authored by certain humans and is now being interpreted by
other human beings, and the ideas of all these 'experts, scholars and
holy men' are still without reference to my life. "Every Man and Every
Woman is a Star." - My belief is that God has not only given us each a
free will, but it is perjury to assign it over to anyone else, it is your
responsibility as a soul to figure out who YOU are, and to perfect that
"in harmony with all that is". I don't care about Jesus further than to
know that he lived, and did some cool things. Morals? Ridiculous. Whose
morals? Be in thrall to a priest, a minister, or a social group's blindly
held values? Absurd.

But from the above I say this: Tim's beliefs make him and me brothers,
more so than he is a brother to the Evangelical wing, in my opinion.
I have no trouble with Tim's beliefs because although we express them
differently we mean the same thing:

Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law.
Love Is The Law, Love Under Will.

Translates as: To Thine Own Self Be True; Love Thy Neighbor As Thyself;
Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Thee.

The only difference is that I do not believe that Jesus was other than
a highly-attained being. Oh, and sorry - guilt, pfui.

-ecsd
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM (Nina S. Smith - SunSoft Product Marketing)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: WorldBeatDancePartyBoink
Date: 13 Sep 1992 04:08:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: wesson


Rhythm Method ( ". . . sort of Bob Marley jamming with The Dead, pinned
down by a beat that can't be beat." -- Kip Ward, Good Times) will be
performing at Alberto's in downtown Mountain View on Friday, September
18 from 9:00 p.m. onwards.  

My original plan was to do a Reggae Boink but hey! World Beat works too!  
I realize it's short notice but only got wind of it from the Art & Wine
Festival in downtown MTV this afternoon.

It's $5.00 dollars advance (I guess it works like The Edge where you go
there a few days ahead, pay in advance and get your name on a guest list 
 . . dunno), and $7.00 at the door.

So email me (smith@wesson.sun.com) if you'd like to go . . . 

-- Nina
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: stupid Christians (was re: hair)
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:58:06 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: ba

bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley) writes:


>	If you'd like to know more about the Universal Life Church and
>how to become an ordained minister, just write me a note.

Well, I tried mail to bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP and to
[...]portal!ntmtv!bradletm which is how the article got *here*, but it
was a no go for both of these.  So, I figured more than one other
person would be interested in this, so perhaps you could tell us a
little more, like where do I mail the check?

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Movies...
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 17:04:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

>I would not recommend that you rely on the rating system provided
>by the Mercury News.  Theirs has got to be the most inane rating

The Mercury News also lists the ratings from seven other
newspapers (p.18 of the current Eye).  This is most cool,
for those of us who thought advanced statistics courses
were fun.  For example, six of the newspapers generally
agree on most movies, but People magazine seems to be an
outlier.  They rated "The Player" poorly when everyone
else rated it highly (I enjoyed it).
-- 
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692.
Thomas David Kehoe          kehoe@netcom.com         (408) 354-5926
Newsgroups: ba.singles,ba.test,misc.test
From: hoogs@alc.com (Tim Hoogasian)
Subject: A New Standard In Flamethrowing
Organization: Ascent Logic Corporation, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:57:39 GMT

In article <6278@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite) writes:
>
>"now Ken, i'm sure your life has been a difficult one, what with a 
>face like yours, ...
>  .
>  .
>  .
>only your excrutiatingly painful death will satisfy us."

why should the military need to spend megabucks for further flamethrowing
capabilities, when it already has an ultimate weapon in its employ?  send
him up to the front lines!

-tim

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From: kompella@pa.dec.com (Vachaspathi Kompella)
Subject: Re: A's Tix forsale
Keywords: Face Value!
Organization: DEC Western Research Lab
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 03:46:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.165501.18239@clipper.ingr.com> mgm@clipper.ingr.com (Mike Marfell) writes:
>
>
>               Who: A's vs Boston Red Sox
>
>               When: Sunday Sept. 6th @ 5:05pm
>
>               Where: Oakland Col. Sec 107 Row 16 Seats 15 & 16
>
>               Cost: $24 for the pair
>
>               If you would like them, please call me at 408-365-1884
>
>                                            Thanks,
>
>                                                -Mike
>
>-- 
>
>                      "Just Say No! To Cable TV"
>Mike Marfell                                      mgm@clipper.ingr.com


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From: Bill Croft <croft@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Meditation course for professionals (Mountain View)
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:23:32 GMT

A one-day meditation course for Bay Area professionals will be held
on Sunday September 20 from 8:30 AM to 4:30 PM.  (The course is also
offered on Sunday October 25.)  The course is sponsored by the SYDA
Foundation and will be taught by:

	Ed McCracken, President and CEO of SILICON GRAPHICS
	Marty Friedman, Management Consultant
	Sandhya McCracken, Organizational Development Consultant

The course fee is $125 and the location is Silicon Graphics at
2011 N. Shoreline Blvd. in Mountain View.  To register or for more
information, call Marty Friedman at (415) 323 9644.
From: support@igc.apc.org (IGC User Support)
Newsgroups: ba.announce
Subject: Alternative Media Fair, San Francisco
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:19:49 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix

Come to an Alternative Media Fair on October 17, at the San Francisco
Art Institute from 10AM to 4PM.  This fair is sponsored by Paper Tiger
Television, a producer of alternative television which critiques the
mainstream media.  Also check out our ongoing exhibit "Smashing the Myths
of the Information Age" which runs from October 8 to Novemeber 14.
From: robertm@clbooks.com (Robert Mudry -- Order Desk & Corporate Accounts)
Newsgroups: ba.announce
Subject: Scott Meyers & C++ FREE Event
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:33:46 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix

**ANNOUNCING AN EVENT AT COMPUTER LITERACY BOOKSHOPS**

------------------------------------------------------
   GUIDELINES, NON-GUIDELINES & NOT-YET-GUIDELINES
                FOR C++ PROGRAMMING
------------------------------------------------------

SCOTT MEYERS will describe some new guidelines for C++
programming.  (New guidelines since his book!)  He will
convey not only programming guidelines, but also the
considerations that go into formulating the guidelines
in the first place.

Scott Meyers has been teaching C++ in academic and
industrial settings since 1989.  He is the author of the
sizzling hot seller, "Effective C++", a columnist for "The
C++ Report", and has authored or co-authored more than a
dozen conference and journal articles on software
development, many of which deal specifically with C++.
  
Date: Wednesday, Sept. 23, 1992
Time: 6:30 pm - 8:00 pm

Location: Computer Literacy Bookshops
          2590 North First Street (At Trimble)
          San Jose
          (408) 435-1118

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From: root@mendel.berkeley.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: ba.announce
Subject: East Bay Skeptics Lecture on Cancer Remission
Keywords: Cancer, Cure, Causality
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:26:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

The EAST BAY SKEPTICS SOCIETY will present
a free, colorful slide-lecture and discussion titled:
 
  S P O N T A N E O U S     R E M I S S I O N
------------------------------------
       Cancer, Cure and Causality
  
- When is a tumor deemed malignant?
- How does the body defend itself?
- Can cancer vanish spontaneously?
 
by Dr. WALLACE SAMPSON, MD
     Acting Chief of Medical Oncology, Santa Clara Valley Medical Center
  
    Cancer is not a single disease, but a wide variety of ways that normal
cells become renegade.  Cancerous cells vary greatly in their degree of
malignancy, and many steps are required to develop into a fatal disease. 
Sometimes full malignancy never emerges, and tumor regression can even occur
without intervention.  Quacks frequently take credit for what may be an
entirely natural process.
    Wallace Sampson, MD is a cofounder and chairman of the board of the
National Council Against Health Fraud and an advisor to the Bay Area Skeptics.
    Bring your questions !
 
TIME and PLACE
--------------
Monday, SEPTEMBER 25, in 101 LSA, UC Berkeley, 
from 8:00 to 10:00 pm.  All are invited, there is no charge.
  
THE TALK is part of a continuing monthly series sponsored by the EAST BAY
SKEPTICS SOCIETY, a non-profit public interest group dedicated to advancing
community appreciation of the cultural benefits of rational thinking.  For
more information on our lecture, membership or education program, call (510)
420-0702 or message EBSS@AOL.COM
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Subject: [Weekly posting] Moderation policies for ba.announce [last modified: May 5 1992]
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:00:17 GMT

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From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Subject: Drum Circle & Drum Class
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:24:29 GMT

    On Sunday, September 27th (barring rain), Arthur Hull will be hosting
his quarterly drum circle from 5:30 -> sunset.  This is free and open to
interested drummers/percussionists (and watchers).  BYORI (Rhythm
Instrument).  Normal attendance at this is around 100-200 people.

    Location of the drum circle is the first beach north of the Santa
Cruz light house (also little known as "It's It" Beach).  Parking can be
a pain, so car pooling is most cool if possible.

    Beginning Sunday, October 4th, Arthur will begin a new 8 week drum
teaching session.  The beginning class will meet at 2:30pm - 4pm (often
goes on past that point depending on what is being covered) on the UCSC
campus.  Cost will be 64$ for the 8 week session (cost went up due to
moving the location to campus -- to pay for the space there -- 1 person
raised a major stink about the classes on the beach, so he was forced to
move his classes).

    If you have your own drum, feel free to bring it -- though it should
be a drum that can be played with 2 hands on top and not a doumbek (not
really a hand drum, but more a finger drum).  If you don't have a drum,
he provides drums for his classes free of cost.  Drums are likely NOT
to be provided for the Celebration drum circle held on the 27th.

    Arthur teaches Afro-cuban hand drumming and brings in rhythms from a
variety of cultures.  Arthur Hull was one of the main facilitators at the
Rhythm for Life Benefit held this last Feb.  He has played and learned
with Mickey Hart and Babatunde Olitunji among many others.

	If you need more information, his number (West Cliff Percussion) is
(408) 458-1946. Signups for the class are done the first day of class.

    I am not associated with Arthur except as a random student who
massively enjoys his classes.  I am posting this to share the fun, as it
were, to those interested.

william
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the average coal miner did in 1949, adjusted for taxes and inflation," John
Sestina, nationally recognized Certified Financial Planner;  quoted in 1987.
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From: lindae@netcom.com ()
Subject: Fundraiser for Missing, Abused, & Exploited Children
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:00:07 GMT

When:  October 30, 1992

What:	Halloween Hop
	A 50's-style dinner, dance, & fundraiser

Why:	To Benefit Child Quest International, Inc., a non-profit
	organization, headquartered in San Jose, and devoted to the
	protection and recovery of missing, abused, and exploited
	children.

Tickets:	1 for $20.00 or 2 for $35.00

Enjoy burgers, fries, and root beer floats...hula hoops...dance music...
dance and costume contests...

LOTS MORE!!!!!

For more information or to purchase your tickets, call (408) 492-1122
If you would like to sell tickets, we could certainly use your help!!!!!

Volunteers are always needed at Child Quest, so please give us a call
at (408) 492-1122

Hope to see you at the Halloween Hop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Child Quest International
lindae@netcom.com

P.S.  For more information on Child Quest, check out the newsgroup
called alt.missing-kids
From: robertm@clbooks.com (Robert Mudry -- Order Desk & Corporate Accounts)
Newsgroups: ba.announce
Subject: Multimedia with Mark Bunzel FREE Event
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:37:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix

**ANNOUNCING AN EVENT AT COMPUTER LITERACY BOOKSHOPS**

------------------------------------------------------
   MULTIMEDIA: the Computer Interface of the '90s
------------------------------------------------------

MARK J. BUNZEL will present an overview of the state
of multimedia computing for the PC and Macintosh.
Demonstrtions will include IBM and Intel's
ActionMedia II DVI technology as well as Microsoft's
Multimedia Windows and Multimedia on the Macintosh.
Microsoft's AVI and Apple's QuickTime software-only
motion video decompression will be shown.

Mark J. Bunzel is president and founder of AVTEX, a
Campbell, California company that develops multimedia
software and systems for application developers and
corporate clients including: IBM, Apple, Olivetti,
Goldstar, Media Vision and Intel Corporation.  He is
the co-author of "Multimedia Applications Development:
Using DVI Technology".  Mr. Bunzel is an award winning
video producer and has nearly ten years experience in
developing interactive video producer and has nearly
ten years experience in developing interactive video
information systems, and the application of digital
imaging and optical disk storage.

Date:  Monday, Sept. 21, 1992
Time:  7:00 pm - 8:30 pm
       (check-in/registration at 6:30 pm)

Location: U.C. Santa Cruz Extension
          3120 De la Cruz Blvd
          (Trimble at 101)
          Santa Clara

Fee:          Non-credit, $10
To register:  call U.C. Santa Cruz Extension
                   (408) 427-6600
                           or
              obtain a registration form at
              any Computer Literacy Bookshops
              or at U.C. Santa Cruz Extension

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Newsgroups: ba.announce,rec.birds,ba.general
From: dox@netcom.com (Apostolos Doxiadis)
Subject: Bird watching class, Saratoga, Thursday morning
Summary: Call for more participants
Keywords: bird watching class Saratoga
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:59:45 GMT

The City of Saratoga  and REI are hosting a class in beginning observation
techniques and basic bird identification. It  will take place on Thursday,
September 24 from 8 to 11 am at Wildwood Park, Saratoga.

Right now we have two people signed up, and we need a minimum of four. If
you are interested, call the city at (408) 867-3438.  ($35 for nonresidents
of Saratoga). 

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Doxiadis Research                                  
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