From: jodar@chaph.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Budhisim / Islam, TRAPPED GIRL
Summary: More on Apostacy....
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:56:31 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA


Obviously, this girl has a lot of misinformation, as nobody who 
actually practices Islam hates it.  There is nothing in it to 
hate for a person who loves justice, righteousness, and seeks 
to please Allah (SWT).

Perhaps she has a bad image of Islam from dealing with
Hypocrites....  She should seek to understand Islam DESPITE
the examples given by some 'muslims.'

Again, I AM NOT AN ULAMA, but killing a man immediately upon 
his first apostacy contradicts my knowledge of Islam.  In any
case, I don't believe it is done outside of the Khilafa.

Here is what I was able to dig up on the subject.  (Lots of
discussion on this, so I thought I'd post....)

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Ibn 'Umar, Az-Zuhri, and Ibrahim said, "A female apostate (who
reverts from Islam) should be killed.  And the obliging of the
reverters from Islam to repent.  Allah (SWT) said:

'How shall Allah Guide those who Reject Faith after they accepted
it and bore witness that the Messenger was true, and that Clear 
Signs had come unto them?  But Allah guides not a people unjust.
Of such the reward is that on them (rests) the curse of Allah, of
His Angels, and of all mankind -- In that will they dwell; nor
will their penalty be lightened, nor respite be their lot;
Except for those that repent (even) after that, and make
amends, for verily Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.  But
those who reject Faith after they accepted it, and then go on
adding to their defiance of Faith -- Never will their repentance
be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone
astray.'
[3:86-91]

...and...

'O ye who believe!  If ye listen to a faction amoung the People
of the Book, they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye 
have believed!'
[3:100]

...and...

'Those who believe, then reject Faith, then believe (again),
and (again) reject Faith, and go on increasing in Unbelief -- 
Allah will not forgive them, nor Guide them on the Way.'
[4:137]

...and...

'Anyone who, after accepting Faith in Allah, utters Unbelief --
except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith -- but
such as open their breast to Unbelief -- on them is Wrath from 
Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.  This because they 
love the life of this world better than the Hereafter; and
Allah will not Guide those who reject Faith.  Those are they
whose hearts, ears, and eyes Allah has sealed up, and they take
no heed.  Without doubt, in the Hereafter they will perish.
But verily, thy Lord -- to those who leave their homes after
trials and persecutions, and who thereafter strive and fight
for the Faith and patiently persevere -- thy Lord, after all 
this is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.'
[16:106-109]

...and...

'... Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back
from your Faith if they can.  And if any of you turn back from
your Faith and die in Unbelief, their works will bear no fruit 
in this life nor in the Hereafter; they will be Companions of 
the Fire, and will abide therein.'"
[2:217]

[From Sahih Al-Bukhari]

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Allah (SWT) has also said:

'Behold, Luqman said to his son by way of instruction:  "O my
son!  Join not in worship (others) with Allah, for false worship
is indeed the highest wrongdoing."'
[31:13]

'But it has already been revealed to thee -- as it was to those
before thee -- "If thou wert to join (gods with Allah), truly
fruitless will be thy work (in life), and thou wilt surely be in
the ranks of those who lose (all spiritual good)".'
[39:65]

'Those who turn back as apostates after Guidance was clearly shown
to them -- The Evil One has instigated them and bouyed them up
with false hopes.  This, because they said to those who hate what
Allah has revealed, "We will obey you in part of (this) matter,"
but Allah knows their (inner) secrets.  But how (will it be when
the angels take their souls at death, and smite their faces and
the3ir backs?  This because they followed that whcih called forth
the Wrath of Allah, and they hated Allah's good pleasure; so He
made their deed of no effect.'
[47:25-28]

And the Words of Allah (AWJ) are True....


[excerpt from letter]
>If this girle married this nonmoslem man I'm sure their happiens will be to
>short .and she will lose in this life and in the dayafter .Iask GOD (swt) to
>guide me and her to the Right Path .

AMIN!

-AQ

[I beg Allah's forgiveness for my weakness and insufficiency in ]
['His' service, and I ask for his protection from Shaitan and   ]
[from my own Desires.  None can protect me except Allah.  If I  ]
[have made any errors, I beg Allah to bring them to my attention]
[so that they may be corrected.  If I have made none, then it is]
[only through the Grace of Allah and all praise is due only to  ]
['Him.'  This article may be redistributed freely.              ]