HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Gimme a story and a place to sleep.
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:39:22 GMT

In article <C0E0M9.98u@cs.bham.ac.uk>
rjg@cs.bham.ac.uk (Robin J Green) writes:
 
>        But seriously. I was mailed by Johnny Chen about wierd
>happenings at raves. What's the strangest thing that ever happened to
>you at one? What's your everlasting memory of these events?
...
>        Wierdness abounds at raves. Meeting someone on a hockey mask
>going mental and you JUST KNOW he's smiling at you even tho you can't
>see his face. Getting hassled by the shite city ravers in the country
>up at the front under the overhanging breasts of the female dancers.
>The way dance platforms hold 3 times as many people with room to dance
>then you ever thought possable. The people you meet dancing with a
>small bunch of bananas in their hands waqving them around (wierd).
>People fighting their way through the crowd JUST to OFFER you a drink
>of water. The thanks you get for giving a good neck massage that's
>true and heartfelt. All of that. Most of all clocking someone across
>the floor who you know is your best friend ever, even tho you've never
>met them before. Excellent.
...
> - Robin <sweat stained whistle possee> Green.
 
Oh man, stuff like that happens to me *every*day*! And I don't even go to
raves! For weird, how does this sound; calling your parents collect with
a code name which is the signal to pick you up in their car as you begin a
walk home which often means walking a mile out of your way, all because you
don't want to stand at the bus stop in your neighborhood since the last
time you did a kid hit you in the head with a brick, and walking directly
through your 'hood could be just as dangerous. Do this for *half*a*year*
and then just *once* you take the bus to a stop in a different part of
your neighborhood and you try to talk yourself into feeling a bit safer
'cause you're with your older brother--anyway, you are both waiting for
your ride on the main street on the edge of the 'hood when a kid walks
up to you and says "aren't you the dude who got hit in the head with a brick?"
 
Man, the feeling of unity among the kids is enough to keep you indoors
for the rest of your life! :)
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "It's that constant beat; that 'boom, boom, boom!'
from the home of the           I get hyped, I get into it, and when the
endless machine.                     breaks come . . . I scream!" :)
 
"It's called....Techno"
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: rave?
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:47:10 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-09-93 14:43
Quoted From: string@wrs.com (String)
> 
> In article <1993Jan08.233720.25626@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
> >
> >Date Entered: 01-08-93 18:34
> >Quoted From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
> >> 
> >> you should come to san francisco.
> 
> >San Francisco -- the target of 48 Hours rave expose, and home to "most 
> 
> It wasn't a 'rave expose' the show was about LSD.
> 

Sarcasm is difficult to send over the net... my original statement 
was sarcastic.  It's just that they seemed to be saying that raves 
were the great acid hotbed in the world, thats all.

> >of North America's LSD production factories", according to said TV 
> >program.  Looks like you have one hell of a scene there.
> 
> Yes and No. There are a lot of raves and such. However, there is also
> a whole lot of pretty ugly shit (tm) goin on here too.
> What I want to know is how 'they' can make a statement like
> "most of North America's LSD production factories" and not know where they
> are.
> I also don't believe it for a minute, as the stuff is produced at every major
> Univeristy and many companies with a bio-chem lab.
> 
> Think about it; one drop == one dose (and one big dose at that), it doesn't
> take a 55 gal. drum to crank out a few hundred thousand hits in a 
> very short time.
> 

I think they're possibly trying to stop at least a few people in SF 
from producing the drug, by using 'scare tactics' ... oh well, I guess 
as long as there are illegal substances around, they will always have 
their down sides and opponents (I think Aldus Huxley was being a bit 
too optimistic when he wrote 'Brave New World').

rev@cibbs.uucp / greg.ipp@rose.com
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From: jnixon@spam.ua.oz (John Nixon)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Gimme a story and a place to sleep.
Summary: You get the first but not the last
Keywords: chuppachup
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:27:13 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rave
Distribution: world
Organization: Statistics, Pure & Applied Mathematics, University of Adelaide

In article <C0E0M9.98u@cs.bham.ac.uk> rjg@cs.bham.ac.uk (Robin J Green) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>       But seriously. I was mailed by Johnny Chen about wierd
>happenings at raves. What's the strangest thing that ever happened to
>you at one? What's your everlasting memory of these events?

Not really *that* strange, but capturing the feeling of what you are
getting at...

>       For me the major feeling I get from these events is some sort
>of togetherness under the groove (never quite in the way you expect).

Im at a rave.  Sasha is playing and the place is going off.  I se a girl
next to me who has a Cuppa Chup (sp?) [lolly-pop doodad] in here mouth
and, being the big kid that I am, think to myslef "I wan't one of those
too!".  I ask here where she got it from.  She says she brought it with
her and gives it to me straight out of her mouth.  I had met the woman
for all of five minutes and we were already exchanging bodily fluids!
(So much for safe sex! :-)

[stuff deleted]

> - Robin <sweat stained whistle possee> Green.

No Robin, you are notmad, or *completely* wierd and yes, the all-knowing
eye-contact accross a crowded dancefloor/field *is* a magic thing.

--
John Nixon {Research Dude} jnixon@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au [08 228-5407]
Department of Applied Mathematics, The University of Adelaide, SA, AUSTRALIA
           "Moby" Sample of the Week: "Open your ears and
           listen."  "Listen with all your might."  Listen!"
From: jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ding a Ding Dang My Ding a Long Ling Long)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Looking for samples
Date: 5 Jan 1993 05:55:45 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

I'm looking for people with samples to trade!

I would prefer to get and trade all samples in Soundblaster VOC format since it's nice clear, and easy to convert.  Or at least in a form that can convert to VOC.  
I use 2 soundblaster pro's for my music making, and as lame as that sounds, it's really quite impressive when it's run through the effects processor and the eq and stuff.  
If you have good vocal samples, and ESPECIALLY instrument samples, please write me at
jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu

I'd love to trade stuff.  I've got about 30 or 40 disks of stuff...
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: A&E Rave show Jan 10
From: ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett)
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:26:18 -0500
Organization: Spandex Admirers Intl.

There was a pretty cool show on A&E (Arts and Entertainment) last night
on (probably) your local cable channels.  It started out mentioning
disco, and how it grew and developed.  Then the Detriot scene, the move
to the Uk, and now the current move back.

They interviewed Stephen and Gillian from New Order, Dee-Lite, and some
other people.  The beginning was sort of neat, but as they moved into the
modern era, it got cheesy.

The cap was them saying how infuential Dee-Lite is.  I nearly puked.

If it repeats, it may be worth it.  It was simply titled "Rave".


Andrew
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   Hot tune: Sunscream's "Love you More" and Tom Waits' "Going Out West"
From: misd1cp@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Only for the Headstrong #888
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:33:51 GMT
Reply-To: misd1cp
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <6779@tuegate.tue.nl>, renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter) writes:
> Daniel DuBois (dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
> : bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
> : 
> : How is this CD by the way?  The only song I recognize is Utah Saints, but
> : I already have that on another CD comp, so Im not convinced I should buy
> : OFTH2.
> : 
> : -Dan
> 
> Most tracks are nice UK Breakbeat house tracks.
> Especially Isotonik's "Everywhere I go" is great, though you're better
> of getting the cd-5" or 12", since the other tracks (Let's get down,
> with a sample from Inner City's "Big Fun", and Rush, co-made by
> "techno hero Grooverider" (quote from Mix Mag) and the 12" has a remix
> from "Everywhere I go").
> 
> Other nice comps are Kaos Theory 4 and (if you like it)
> the mix compilation "Hit the decks 3" with great mixes from SL2, Megabass,
> DJ Krome & Mr. Time,Carl Cox,2 little boys and Unity Mixers (Belgium).
> 
> Have fun!
>  +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
>  |        Rene Walter        |        renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl         |
>  +---------------------------+---------------------------------------------+
>  | "In a musical way, I must admit that Belgium is one of the flattest     |
>  |  countries, though Holland has proven with "POING!!" that they can      |
>  |  make it even flatter..."                                               |
>  |                                          - Frank de Wulf (in Rif Raf)   |
>  |                                                (Belgian house producer) |
>  +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
***********************UK PEOPLE ARE BACK AGAIN FOLKS**************************



Merry Christmas and a Prodigy newyear to u all.....heres my opinion on
compilations...in the UK thats all thats realy comercialy available(ie readilly
available from big stores like hmv,our price virgin etc)...the only good
compilations are realy live tapes of raves...as none of the money grabing
companies can add there little tunes in order to make money.
 Every  week it seems like a new compilation is out,dont get me wrong,some of
them do have some good music on them,but compared to live recordings from raves
-compilations sound tame/dull.

Anyway its up to u what yah listen to,but grab some hot recordings and listen
to them sometime...u might even be impressed.




If u like hardcore,try to get hold of STEVE BICKNAL-ive got one of his tapes
from a place near my home...burns holes in the car sterio its that hot.




chris-p-in the place called DIT...1993
From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Today Show segment Jan 11
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:44:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The Today show (NBC) did a segment about raves
 this morning.  I only caught the end of it.
 They interviewed some of the younger kids --
 age 10-14.  Katie Couric asked the reporter
 "Were there any chaperones?"
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: exist dance - more info
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:22:48 GMT


a few people have written to me asking where to get exist dance records.  i
have to honestly say that i have no bloody idea.  the best advice i can give
is: call them and ask.  their phone number is (213) 661-2442.  that's in los
angeles, california.

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 09 Jan 93 20:49:17 PST

In article <95.1191.uupcb@satalink.com> jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)  writes:
>NUMBER one demo group in the amiga scene...I got almost every single
>demo that came out for the amiga since 87...plus i am makinga
>techno/rave conference on my BBS with mods....Ok I dont know about
>pressing the music into a record but I do know few DJs who have AMIGAS
>with them every time they play a gig, they use it a sampler...with 200mb
>HD you can sample ALOT with it!
>
>The demo that won $2500 is made by SPACEBALLS, IT IS AWESOME!!! I also
>got few others like: HYPNOTIC HAMMER [200k exe file], Seseme's Treet
>MEGA MIX [done by some UK guys], BASS SUBLIMINAL Techno demo, Bass Mega
>Demo II, Wildfire MEga Demo, Bass Of Drifters No tech Demo, Techno
>Conspiracy by Majic 12, MANIAC RAVES I [2 disks], MANIAC RAVES II [4
>disks]...there is alot more cant think of them now...but i got most of
>the music ripped anyway...so I can play it from my amiga without the
>need of rebooting...

Post where we can get these on ftp!

BTW is there anything special you have to do to get that bass-notech
demo to work?

agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)

I want amigatechno!

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: nage@ellis.uchicago.edu (Rufus Nagel)
Subject: Raves in Chicago?
Reply-To: nage@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:54:00 GMT

	Hi, out there. I'm interested in going to a rave in the chicagoland
 area sometime soon. Have not gone to one in this area yet. I visited a fun
club called Shelter and enjoyed it for the most part (it was a thurs. night)
Is there some ftp site for this info or anyone want to pass on something 
about this weekend. See you at Shelter tonight (I'll be the guy in a suit)
Rufus (nage@midway.uchicago.edu)


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Julie Petersen)
Subject: Re: Breakbeat and 'hardcore' ruminations
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:20:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.091415.15367@bristol.ac.uk> ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:
>
>Take the old house record 'S-express' by s-express on a vinyl album playing at
>33 1/3 rpm and whack it on up to 45 rpm.
>
And then, when you've had enough of that, try playing the Cocteau
Twins 'Victorialand' at 33 1/3 instead of the normal 45....
Coma inducing (but in a nice way).


-- 
_______________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen                       petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: RE: AMIGA TECHNO
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:17:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 

-> Why not output the sound from the audio jack into a tape player and
-> press record?  I know it works on my IBM, and I doubt the whole idea
-> of the thing is very different from the Amiga.  BTW: how do you
-> suggest I get my MODs distributed electronically?  I have no access
-> to an FTP site, and there aren't any boards around here that are
-> strictly based around MODs (unless anybody has a (416) number for me.
-> I only call two places in any case, so what would I know?).
->
-> The two MODs I have released so far (ie. in the last two weeks I've
-> been into this): _Rennur (kennedy remix)_, and _Give (house mix)_.
-> If anybody has seen these anywhere, I'd really like to know.  I
-> uploaded them to Rose Media (here), which means a large amount of
-> exposure.

I got about 50 techno mods on my bbs...it is in 215 area code..but if u
like we can mail swap it.. i got about 40 disks of non techno mods if u
like as well...
                                                                                     
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: USA is *way* behind Europe (Was: YO HO!)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:16:08 GMT

bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) writes:
>jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) writes:
 
>>Why doesnt MTV USA play any techno like its counterpart in Europe?
 
Who cares? MTV *SUCKS*! It has always sucked!
Even when it was good, it sucked!
I'm glad they don't play techno. With any luck, they never will.
 
>>mostly used in TECHNO videos, someting you'll never see in the US. Will
>>U.S. always be BEHIND europe when it comes to music? created Techno,
>>left it alone instead of doing what Euros are doing with it now. It is
>>that god damn ROCK'N'ROLL mentallity that I cant stand. All you hear on
 
Which is why you should avoid MTV like the plague. Turn off your TV
and turn up the stereo!
 
>>MTV is rock, rock, rock, rap, rock, rock, rap, rap with all those lame
>>hosts they've got. HOW ABOUT SOME TECHNO for a change. Anything will do,
 
MTV is a huge commercial organization. If you want to see techno die out
completely, just wait until MTV starts to play it.
 
>Exactly my thoughts.  I'm so ready to leave the U.S., mainly because all of the
>interesting, new cultural innovations seem to happen in Europe.  All we get is
>the most packaged and ordinary leftovers of a once-vital art/cultural/musical
>movement. (Witness: The Punk Movement in the '70s)  I read a posting on alt.rave
>where some Brit was decrying the Death of Techno.  Techno is dead!?  I just
>found out about it a year and a half ago!!!   Why doesn't the 'free' and
>'democratic' U.S. have Raves where 50,000 vital, young-minded people of all
>races can peacefully revel in the beautiful world of physical and mental
>stimulation????  Rave culture makes the 'rebel' spirit that supposedly inhabits
Once MTV starts playing techno, you'll see 50,000+ kids at raves, drunk
or high and looking to get laid. It won't matter to them if you tell
them that they are not acting in the true spirit of rave unity.
And when the DJ starts to pump out Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, or when
the mosh pit gets out of hand, the kids will eat it up. No eletism or
purism will be found at the MTV-inspired rave.
 
>the stale and cobwebbed Rock-n-Fuckin'-Roll culture look pretty worn out.  Our
>American culture is stalwarted by its pre-Victorian sexual attitudes and its
>complete failure at responding to the existence and use of even the mildest
>recreational drugs.  I really appreciate my freedom--I just want more of it!
>Am I the only Yank who feels this way?
 
Pre-Victorian? No drugs? All you see on TV is sex. All you hear about
on the news is drugs. Where have you been? No flame intended, Barry.
I just don't see how you can say that, but everyone *is* entitled to an
opinion.
 
>Barry (XLR8) Sanders
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "It's that constant beat; that 'boom, boom, boom!'
Detroit, Michigan  USA         I get hyped, I get into it, and when the
(where Techno started)               breaks come . . . I scream!" :)
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Most Commercial Rave.n
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:08:16
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
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In-reply-to: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of Fri, 25 Dec 92 22:47:12 GMT

Hey dude, I know you can't stand the Poor Boy guys, but I'm still trying to
figure out where they even mentioned "rave" in the flyer. Or are even the
trappings of raves only for RealRavers (tm)?

Just wondering?
--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.
From: cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk (Hacienda)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: ALTERN8
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:50:04 GMT
Organization: the Ataku Anihilation Army HQ
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

perpetually living (ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
:                                  I dunno, I can't explain it, I just
: don't see why after the majority of their popularity came as Altern8
: that they'd go back to Nexus 21....

To quote A8 - the reason they were chaning their name to Nexus 21, was because
A8 was "a joke" which came a too popular for N21's liking, so they announced
that they were going to cease using the A8 name.

Incidently, on the day of their announcement of their departure, they said that
their next single would be more than the limit of what the UK declare is a
single - so they are probably releasing a mini-LP.

While on the subject of A8, was the second CD Single to Brutal-8-E ever
released ?
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 09 Jan 93 21:01:05 PST

In article <1993Jan09.194739.12512@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 01-09-93 14:43
>Quoted From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 
>> 
>> -> You know, we can do that on IBMs too.  We aren't all that musically
>> -> inept.
>> 
>> Yea I know you can...but you have to buy a $200 sound card, a 486 CPU, a
>> midi interface etc etc which finally ads up to mega big bucks...even
>> with your 20 voice on Crap Blaster Pro it is not even close to amiga's
>> sound...
>> 
>
>I think you should examine the subject a little better.  I don't 
>really want to get into this on alt.rave, but you can create MODs on a 
>286/12 if you really want, and they'll sound good.  My sound card 
>(which is 8 bit stereo) cost me $160Cdn, and I use it with a 386/33. 
>You don't need any midi stuff to create 8-channel or 4-channel 
>composition.  If you want to get into sound quality -- a Pro Audio 
>Spectrum 16 will equal or beat most Amigas in that respect, plus with 
>16.5 million colours on one of those new graphics cards, the demos are 
>deffinately comparable.

Pas-16 doesn't have four independent channels... only two. I've got
both a PC and and amiga.. had a PAS-16 on the PC for a while too. The
Amiga sounded cleaner, hands down. Plus the software for
creating/playing MODs is much better on the Amiga. Sure you can do it
on the IBM, but it really pales in comparison.

As for the demos, sure the new PCs can do 16.7million colors and even
cheap SVGA can do like 640x480x256, but where are the demos that
support this? The max I've seen a demo at is the 640x480x16 vga mode
with just credits rollin' by. Nothing spectacular has happened yet.
Until something like Odyssey can be made on the PC, I'll take the
amiga for demos.

Also $200 gets you all your fun... you have to admit it costs more for
the PC to become "demo ready"

>> If you really think PC is better let me see one demo on the PC that is
>> ever CLOSE to what was done on the amiga in 1987 [btw we had WINDOWS GUI
>> since 1986 while you were still playing with DOS]....
>>          
>
>Windows has been around since 1986 (someone correct me if I'm wrong 
>here -- but I had version 2 in 1989 or 88)... just not very nice, 
>thats all.

I have a copy of Windows 1.0... it sucks. Windows sucks. OS/2, maybe..
anyway.. this is wholly off subject..

ISN'T IT NICE THAT WE CAN ALL RAVE TOGETHER ANYWAY?

agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)