From: 0695cs14@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Silicon Vulture)
Subject: Re: Fuck You All
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:42:00 GMT

In article <BuAowu.A4v@well.sf.ca.us>, hugoglez@well.sf.ca.us (Hugo Gonzalez)
writes...

>I have received a lot of flame mail for what I said in response to Jeff.
>I thoght I should clear up some misconceptions.

Or perhaps create some?

>I do not think all black people are "niggers".  I do think some black people
>are niggers, just as some white people are niggers.

I can accept this view.  The original word (derived from "niggardly") had
no racial connotations.

>It just happens that
>there are more black niggers than white niggers, thats all.

I'll even accept this statement as long as you acknowledge that is your
own biased opinion, not a fact.

>There is no
>reason for people to get upset about this.  It has been scientifically proven
>that black people are not as smart as white people, something to so with
>the size of the brain or genetics.

Wrong.  Absolutely wrong.  There was a lot of research that tried to prove
this "fact".  The research was plagued with scandals of inconclusive data
and conclusive data that had been falsified.  The research died out soon
after the chief researcher's death.  The autopsy showed that the (white)
researcher's brain was considerably smaller than average.

>Do not flame me for this, as this is accepted as FACT in the scientific
>community.

No it's not.  Who have you been talking to in the "scientific community"?

>If you don't belive me,
>look around you.  Look at how many balck people are on welfare.  Compare
>that to the number of white people on welfare.  The statistics will prove
>it.

Allow me to offer an alternate explanation.  It is rather difficult for
a person to change his/her economic status in this country.  If you're
poor, you go to worse schools taught by worse teachers on a lower budget.
Your parent(s) probably both work and don't have the time (or possibly
even the education) to help you with your homework.  They can't afford to
pay someone to tutor you.  During high school, you probably have to work
to help generate some extra income to your family.  That leaves you little
time or energy for homework and studying.  Women in this situation tend to
be in a worse situation since they are seldom receive proper sex education.
By the time they graduate from high school, many have children of their
own to take care of.  They immediately enter the work force to support
children they won't get to spend much time with.  Their children will end
up in the same catch-22 that they are.

>Now you can choose to ignore the facts, or you can accept them.  I am not
>saying white people are superior, just smarter (genetically).

I'm dying to see some research that backs up these "facts"

>How many black people have become president?  Zero.

Take a good look at Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford.  You don't have to be
smart to be president, just charismatic.

>Some people took 
>offense to the word "train" applied to black people.  Well, white
>people can be trained too.

Agreed.  You've been well trained (or brainwashed) to believe that
you are dumber than I am.

>Get off your politically correct asses
>and see the world the way it really is.  White people will always have
>the upper hand.

Not if you get off you ignorant ass and do something about it.

>Its a fact of life we must learn to live with.

If you take this attitude, white people *will* always have the upper
hand.

>I don't like it any more than you do (I am NOT white, I am hispanic).

You have been defeated by the system because you believe that you are
unable to win.

>The way I see it, this is the intelligence scale of races, smartest
>at the top...

>Oriental
>White
>Hispanic
>Black
>Polish

Well, I may be smarter than you, but I don't think that proves your
little chart.

Let me offer a counter-example.  My brother-in-law is Polish.  He's
25 years old, has a B.A. in business, and owns his own software
company that he built from the ground up.  His company is successful
and growing rapidly.  He and my sister have a nice condo in Florida
and own two nice cars.  My sister who IS white and NOT Polish is also
25.  She's working as a secretary/receptionist for another company
and still working towards her bachelor's degree.  My brother-in-law's
father owns his own printing company which he built from the ground
up.  He's in his mid fifties.  His company has offices in Michigan,
Florida, California, and Pennsylvania.  He owns a *very* nice home in
an affluent neighborhood in Florida.  This is not a family of morons.
It's a family of entrepeneurs.

>I am right in the middle, so I am not that far above black people, so
>don't give me shit about it.  That does not mean the people near
>the bottom of the scale are destined to clean toilets all their lives.
>I spent 8 years in medical school and am now a practicing physician.

You have an education and you still believe this bullshit?

>If I can do it, thjen so can everybody else.  Itsw just that the
>dumber people have to work harder, and not take the easy way out
>by turning to drugs and crime.

Sure.  If a kid goes to school for an extra 8 years, he can get a
good job.  If he sells drugs (and doesn't take them himself) he can
earn double your income with no education.  Some incentive.

>Being black or hispanic is kind of like being mentally handicapped.

Only in your case.

>We may not have the brains of the white man, but with determination,
>we can overcome our handicap!  Don't let racism get you down.

Genetics has nothing to do with it.  You've been brainwashed.
Brainwashing is part of racism, and you've let it get you down.

>That all I had to say, someone else can take the soapbox now...

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