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From: dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil (David P. Kemp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:20:50 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1993Jan1.212558.22201@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>
>>	1.)  Lest you forget, pick up the Wall Street Journal and look
>>	under the NASDAQ listings.
>
>What does the parasitical abstraction known as "stock" have to do with anything?

It has to do with "greed".  And although the "decade of greed" ended 3
years ago, I doubt that most people have abandoned the idea that money
can make life less miserable :-).  The "parasites" that invest money
in companies expect to get something back, when the companies' products
sell well and generate earnings.

Sun's products generate earnings because people buy them.  DEC's
products don't.  I've made a ton of money on Sun stock, and lost a ton
on DEC stock. (or at least a couple of pounds on each :-).  I suspect that
parasites like me have something in common with computer buyers/users
like me.

>>	HP gives you several OS's, all incompatible with each other.
>
>Huh?  There's HPUX, and the MPE stuff which I don't think ever had much of a
>market share anyway.

Huh? You've already forgotten Domain?  Try complaining about the Solaris
1 -> 2 transition to a Domain user and see how much sympathy you get.

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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Help!!! (Looking for a speaker jack)
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:06:33 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <jgibson.10.726094990@ucs.indiana.edu> jgibson@ucs.indiana.edu (JOHN COOPER GIBSON) writes:
<I saw a note posted not too long ago about audio ports.
<I'm looking for a jack/cable converter from an 8 pin connector
<that appears on the back of sparc stations across the nation, to a
<1/8 inch jeck that appears on headphones/desktop computer speakers/etc 
<that also appear across the nation.
<However, these lovely little devices do NOT occur accross the nation.
<WHERE CAN I FIND ONE?!??!  I want to hook up a set of speakers to a 
<sparc for a multimedia project I'm working on, and I need one.
<I can ever splice the cables if I can find the plug. I just can't find the 
<plug.

Did someone lose the cable that came with your SPARCstation?

Try as I might, I can't find the Sun part number for that cable.  We are a
Sun Reseller and have two price lists and I don't find it on either.

How does Sun expect to sell replacement cables when they don't even put it 
on their price lists?
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From: rich@samson.cc.nd.edu (Rich Sudlow)
Subject: LX with 4.1.3
Keywords: LX with 4.1.3
Reply-To: rich@samson.cc.nd.edu (Rich Sudlow)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:40:37 GMT

I've heard rumors that LX's would boot with 4.1.3 if 
an appropriate boot rom was installed to allow this...
And that the only reason that they don't is because of 

Is this true??

Does anyone have the code for a boot rom which would allow
booting with 4.1.3 which they would share??

-- 
Rich Sudlow
Office of University Computing
University of Notre Dame
rich@samson.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: "David Herron" <david@twg.com>
Subject: Re: SPARC clones
Sensitivity: Personal
Encoding:  32 TEXT 
Conversion: Prohibited
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Inc., Palo Alto, CA
Conversion-With-Loss: Prohibited
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:10:16 GMT

I also get to report nice results from SuperWorkstations.  I had a 
SPARCstation 1 (not 1+) and upgraded to their SS2 clone through a 
motherboard swap.  We installed no new software and it rebooted on my
old installed system perfectly.  Some of my old memory didn't work (100 ns
SIMMs) so they sold me 16 meg of memory (total now 32 meg).

At least the hardware itself has worked flawlessly.  I'm using Solaris 1.0.1
with OW3.

Xengine measurements went from ~150 rpm to ~250 rpm.  SimCity is now playable
when it wasn't before.  Compiles go faster.  The HDS X terminal runs even
faster now.  My housemates complain the roaches run around too fast now.
etc etc ..

There were some weirdities:

They didn't give me any sort of manual.  I asked specifically for one,
and they promised to FAX me one, but it never arrived here.

They called me back a day later to say the FPU chip on my old system was
bad and wanted to split the $200 cost with me.  I dunno the truth of whether
the chip was good or bad, and have no way to prove it one way or another.
A bad FPU chip might've explained some of why the screen crawled slowly
at times (especially while playing SimCity).  Or it could just be OW3.

The salesman was prone to ask pryingly personal questions making me
uncomfortable.

They aren't members of SPARC International.  The salesman said they didn't
see the point of spending that $50,000 when it didn't seem to do them any good.

	David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: geirm@hal.nta.no (Geir Millstein TFB)
Subject: Re: Standing the pizza box on end
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 10:02:50 GMT

Works fine. Have done it for years.
From: weinberg@sho.Eng.Sun.COM (Glenn Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Host ID
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:14:41 GMT
Reply-To: weinberg@sho.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sho

In article 6778@eua.ericsson.se, euapbn@eua.ericsson.se (Per.Borjeson) writes:
>In article 20462@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, bmaggio@wort.dcs.bellcore.com (Bill Maggio) writes:
>> does anyone know how to translate the host id info 
>> into the the Sun system hardware type (eg 670,490,etc)?
>
>Hello Bill!
>
>Here is a small script that will test this:
>
[Script deleted]

Note that as of the SPARCstation LX, Classic and SPARCcenter 2000, you can no
longer depend on the high-order byte of the host ID to determine the machine
type.

This information is provided in the Open Boot PROM's device tree (on all Open
Boot systems, not just the new ones).  The "name" property in the root node
provides the textual name of the machine, e.g., 'SUNW,SPARCcenter-2000'.  From
the shell, you can find this with prtconf -pv (devinfo -pv on 4.x).  Programs
can read /dev/openprom (although they must be sgid sys).

If you use the "name" property to identify the system, you don't have to
modify your script every time we release a new system, and you don't have
to worry about getting the translation wrong in your script.  For example,
the SPARCstation IPX machine type is 57, not 56.  56 is the ELC.

	Regards,

	Glenn
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Opinions expressed above should not be construed as representing any position,
official or unofficial, of SMCC or Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Old SUN question HELP!!!!!
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:31:00 GMT

>additions, libraries etc.  Lots of FSF stuff can be built & used on it
>- occasionally after a bit of a struggle with makefiles.

Microemacs will likely perform a lot better than gnumacs, though.
-- 

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From: rrleck@custer.uucp (bob leck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: How do we boot our new SS10?
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:19:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Exxon

In article <433@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.113647@siisun.epfl.ch> brossard@sic.epfl.ch writes:
><In article <BETSYS.93Jan7152657@ra.cs.umb.edu>, betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
><|> While I'm waiting for our sun salesperson, I thought I'd ask the
><|> world:
><|> 
><|> We have Sun 3's and Sun 4's running 4.1.1. We have 4.1.2 on CD-rom,
><|> uninstalled. We just received a Sparcstation 10/20 which supposedly
><|> has 4.1.3 on the hard disk. 
><|>   It won't boot. Running jumpstart makes it look for host yp maps and
><|> I think other 4.1.3 systems, then ask for the CD-ROM which we do not
><|> own. The docs cover Jumpstart and refer to Solaris manuals which we do
><|> not own.
><
><    SS10 now come setup to install Solaris 2.1 when they are first
><turned on.  They do NOT have 4.1.3 pre-installed anymore!
>
>Not true, the SS10 Model 20 booted with 4.1.3 and we just got it late last
>week and turned it on today (for the first time).

This is true. I have received many SS10's the past few weeks. They all came pre-loaded for Solaris 2.1. I had to re-format the disk and load 4.1.3.


rrleck@custer.exxon.com
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From: rcc@zycor.lgc.com (Randal C. Clarke)
Subject: Trying to locate a fuse...
Originator: rcc@oasis.zycor.lgc.com
Organization: Landmark Graphics - CAEX Division  (Austin TX)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:35:18 GMT

Hi folks,
    I'm looking for a fuse for a dead sony monitor.  The reason I'm posting to
this group is because this type of monitor is often found on RS/6000's, Suns
and the like; and I'm pretty sure that someone out there has run into this
problem before.

   The fuse in question is a 6.3A 250V fuse.  I have searched all over Austin
*and* Houston, but haven't found anyone who stocks this sucker.  If anyone
knows where I can order these...please let me know...I'll summarize to
the net if there is interest.

   Thanks,
     Randy Clarke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: uad1077@dircon.co.uk (Ian Kemmish)
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:48:25 GMT

jburne@spock.uucp (John Burnette) writes:

>Well I really am interested BTW.  Has any commerial vendor released any 
>software for Solaris 2.1?
>-- 

Well, our (5D Solutions) configurable PostScript is shipped as a
collection of .o files which you relink when you've written your
device driver.... I'm told that should run on 2.1, and I think some
people have even done it.

I think Franz (Allegro) Lisp was always distributed that way too....

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From: jon@sed.stel.com (Jon Radel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: External SCSI port on 3/160?
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:50:15 GMT
Reply-To: jon@radel.com
Organization: Stanford Telecom, SED, Reston

I just picked up a "spare" 3/160 that I'm trying to get connected
to the rest of the world.  I've determined that SunOS 4.1.1 is as
high as I can go (right?), but I've not yet figured out whether it
is possible to add any type of SCSI external port.  I'm interested
in borrowing a CD-ROM from another machine here and accessing it 
directly.  Can this be done?  Does anybody know any part numbers,
so that I can start a search for used parts?  Does anybody have Sun
3 pieces they want to sell for cheap?

--Jon Radel
jon@radel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Archive Tape
From: tim@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Timothy J. Barton)
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:08:30 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute

message from kent@tfd.com:

>Power off machine & remove the tape drive.
>Power on & break before boot.
>While talking to the ROM monitor...
>At the '>' prompt, enter 'n' to get to new mode.
>Do a 'probe-scsi' command & note the addresses which respond.
>Power off & attach tape drive.
>Repeat the prove-scsi. All previously responding devices should
>respond the same. The tape drive should respond at '4'.

>If not, check drive strapping, check SCSI cable, ensure
>SCSI net is properly terminated.

>Tape drive may have terminator resistors installed on drive
>(commonly referred to as 'internally terminated'). SCSI nets
>can be terminated with a terminating plug attached to the last SCSI
>out ('externally terminated'). Check manual for drive to find 
>location of internal terminators & ensure that one termination is present
>(internal or external, but not both).


I did as you suggested.  I probed with no tape and my disk is at SCSI 3
and then probed with the tape.  It found the disk where it was before and
found the tape also (at SCSI 4).   I took the tape drive apart to make
sure there were no internal terminators and there weren't.  When the machine
boots, it finds the disk and starts reading in the kernel.  It gets as
far as esp0 and then hangs.  After a few minutes it says: 

  esp0: polled command timeout
		<many more ugly messages>

Then it goes through the rest of the boot process, and it sees the tape at
SCSI 4 as st0 and tells me it is an Archive QIC-150, then it reboots because
it can't mount root.  Does this sound like a SCSI termination/cable problem?

Help!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: alh@einoed.in-berlin.de (Adrian Le Hanne)
Subject: Sparc LC screen resolution switch (bug)
Organization: Einoed Unix & Netzwerke, Berlin (FRG)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:16:42 GMT

FYI, the Sparc Classic's (LC) cg3 onboard can't switch the resolution between
1024x768x76 Hz and 1152x900x66 Hz as described in the hardware documentation.

Though this is described in the guide, and it is also mentioned in the 
sales stuff by Sun (and also the 16" midrange Sony monitor is prepared for
this) the cg3 on board can't do this switch. Fortunately this missing
feature is not that important. (Let's see how the on board parallel port
drags down the CPU with a fast printer :-( )

Adrian
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  "On a day such as this you should insist on more than the truth" -Pere Ubu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: obi@finnbogi.ocs.com (Obi Thomas)
Subject: GX documentation anywhere?
Reply-To: obi@finnbogi.ocs.com
Organization: Online Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 09:24:47 GMT

Is there a White Paper or anything similar which discusses exactly what
the GX board accelerates and how it's used?

I have to use ftpmail to get stuff by ftp, so if you give an ftp site
where such a document exists, I'd greatly appreciate the complete pathname
of the file.

Replies by email preferred, but I do read this newsgroup regularly, so
posts are welcome too.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: norman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kathy Norman)
Subject: Any good/bad news about the FUJITSU M2654S 2GB SCSI HD (11ms)?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: y
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:49:46 GMT

Any good/bad news about the FUJITSU M2654S 2GB SCSI HD (11ms)?
 
We are considering some for our 4/630.  I am hesitant because of the
problems experienced last summer with the FUJITSU M2652S 2GB - now
discontinued.

Thanx.  I will summarize any responses.

-Kathy
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Phone: (204) 474-8311                       University of Manitoba
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Email: norman@ccu.Umanitoba.CA              Canada    R3T 2N2

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: lma@dayton.Stanford.EDU (Larry Augustin)
Subject: LX/Classic memory configuration??
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:55:50 GMT

What's the memory configuration for the new LX and Classic machines?
i.e. number of SIMM slots, kind (width, speed) of SIMMs, do SIMMs have
to be added in groups of 2 or 4, can memory be heterogenous, etc.

Based on what I've been able to get out of confused marketing types,
sales literature, etc., here's my guess for the LX: 6 SIMM slots, 33b
wide SIMMs (X33, same as IPX and ELC), supports 4Mx33 (16MB) and 1Mx33
(4MB) SIMMs, SIMMs must be added in homogeneous pairs, SIMMs can be
mixed otherwise, the machine comes with 16MB installed as 4 4MB SIMMs.
I don't know what speed SIMMs are required.

Thanks,

Larry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: rcaldwel@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Roger Caldwell)
Subject: Old SUN question HELP!!!!!
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:09:28 GMT

I have a old sun micro machine modle number Sun2/120-2

Could some kind soul PLEASE tell me what I have, is it good for anything.


ANY response VERY welcome
rcaldwel@ponder.csci.unt.edu
rcaldwel@unt.edu

Thank you
Roger Caldwell
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: scoob@bnr.ca (Christian Marcotte)
Subject: Re: 400 Meg Hard Disk recommendation ???
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:12:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.011338.24622@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>>It is also important that it can be formated on the 3/60
>>(I have a couple of old scsi drives lying around here and some
>> won't format on the 3/60).
>
>Every SCSI disk that I've ever laid my hands on came pre-formatted.  Do you
>*know* that yours need to be reformatted?

	Yes I do !
	I have a nice 200 Meg drive that I had to format on some other
	equipment and two weeks ago it came up with a bad block.
	I fixed the problem and had to reformat only to be reminded that
	my ol sun3 wouldn't format my drive...  It's really a drag to have
	to physically take my hard disk out, bring it to work and reformat
	it on some equipment that I'm not too familiar with.

-- Scoob



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: zeolis@shuksan (Sherrie Zeoli)
Subject: printcap entry for lineprinter (Fujitsu M3043R, SI1200)
Organization: Man Machine Systems Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:10:38 GMT

Hi!  Does anyone out there have a printcap entry for a line printer?  Am
looking for somewhere to start.  The printer will be hooked up to the Sun
via a 9600 baud RS232 line.

Thanks in advance for any help!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: frank@tardis.acs.ohio-state.edu (Frank G. Fiamingo)
Subject: SPARCprinter replacement parts
Keywords: toner
Reply-To: frank@tardis.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University (ACS)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:30:08 GMT

Who makes the SPARCprinter engine?  And in the interest of competition
and lower prices, where can replacement parts, particularly
the toner and drum, be purchased from, other than Sun itself?

	Thanks,
	Frank

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From: cogan@merlin.anu.edu.au (Bruce Cogan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Is it Sunset yet?!?!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:44:04 GMT
Organization: Mt. Stromlo and Siding Spring Observatories
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.89.37

In article <1943@niktow.canisius.edu>, pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov) writes:
...
|>   contained a review of the newest Indigo.  They also provided the same numbers
|>   for some other systems, including the SUN 4/75 SPARCstation 2. I assume that
|>   you can extrapolate the SUN numbers to the SPARC LX:
|> 

I don't think you can. From the Sun sales literature:

Sparcstation 2  [40MHz]      24.4 Specmarks[89]      28.5 MIPS  4.2Mflops
Sparcstation LX  50MHz  26.4 SPECint92 21.0 SPECfl92 59   MIPS  4.0Mflops

The Spec92 figures for the SS2 are 21.8 SPECint92 and 22.8 SPECfp92 , 
as quoted in a DEC comparison. The SS2 spec figures are with
SunOS 4.1.1, the LX's presumably are with Solaris 2.x


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From: "richard rodriguez" <richard.rodriguez@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: dtc scsi card controller
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:01:00 EST
Reply-To: "richard rodriguez" <richard.rodriguez@execnet.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Does anyone know how to disable the DTC card's automatic SCSI port
   scanning after each boot?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Sun's ZS chips (was Re: Old Sun question - HELP!!!!!)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1993Jan10.150522.8160@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
	<1993Jan11.150539.21882@siemens.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:10:24 GMT

AD> == Anthony Datri <aad@siemens.com>

>On a Sun the highest standard speed is 38.4K!!!
>You can't get to 57.6K......

 AD> Oh darn.  Why would you need >19.2k anyway?

Gee, I don't know.  This here 1MHz 6502A won't keep up with it anyway.  :-)

Perhaps you want to use a serial ISDN TA.  Or you have a V.32bis/V.42bis
modem, and you send a fair amount of uncompressed data.  Or you're running
a serial X terminal off of it to save getting a thin-net transceiver for
your SS2.  Or you're doing a lot of printing to a (non-SPARCprinter) laser
printer, and you sometimes send BIIIIIIG bitmaps, and you'd like to get
your printouts sometime during your lifetime.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: ms4@cec1.wustl.edu (M. Shreedhar)
Subject: Process Migration
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:25:42 GMT


	

	Process Migration between Homogenous SunS does not seem 
	complicated; atleast on paper. So why hasn't Sun got down
	to implementing it? Or is a future version of SunOS going 
	to have it? 
	
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