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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Pens stats 12/16
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:05:22 GMT

(These were taken from this morning's USA today, and updated to include last
 night's stats.)

No.     Player            GP     G     A     Pts     +/-     PiM     PPG
66      M. Lemieux        32     34    51    85      +25     20       8
25      K. Stevens        24     24    25    49       +4     38      11
22      R. Tocchet        30     20    24    44       +6     86      12
10      R. Francis        33     10    32    42       +1     28       4
68      J. Jagr           33     12    24    36      +10     18       4
55      L. Murphy         33      6    28    34      +12     24       2
15      S. McEachern      33     16    12    28       +8      8       4
 7      J. Mullen         21      8    14    22       +9      2       2
 5      U. Samuelsson     29      2    12    14      +21    110       0
 2      J. Paek           31      2     5     7       +4     22       0
23      P. Stanton        31      3     4     7       +1     54       2
24      T. Loney          31      2     4     6       -2     38       0
39      M. Needham        28      5     0     5        0     10       0
14      D. Tippett        26      2     3     5       -2     20       0
26      M. Stapleton      33      1     4     5       -5      6       0
20      J. Daniels        31      2     2     4       -2      8       0
12      B. Errey          18      1     3     4        0     12       0
35      T. Barrasso       27      0     4     4        0     16       0
33      B. Fogarty        12      0     4     4       -3      4       0
 6      P. Ahola          24      1     2     3       -6     20       0
28      K. Samuelsson     26      1     2     3      +12     50       0

Goaltenders: (As of 12/15-taken from the USA Today)

No.     Player            GP      Mins  Avg   W   L   T   GA
35      T. Barrasso       26      1534  3.40  18  6   2   87
31      K. Wregget         8       396  3.94   3  2   1   26
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PITTSBURGH                32      1935  3.57  21  8   3  113(+ 2 empty net)115

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From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: New Anaheim team
Keywords: Anaheim, expansion
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:08:56 GMT

Congratulations to Disney for getting a new NHL franchise
in Anaheim.  I heard Michael Eisner, president and CEO
of Disney say that he thought the "Mighty Ducks", based
on the Disney movie of the same name, would be a good name 
for the team.   However, his advisers are trying to talk him
out of it.

				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
From: B7O2@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (B7O2)
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Subject: No. of games ...
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:36:50 GMT
Organization: McGill University

Hmmm. ... I doubt anybody has said anything yet on this, so...
Does anybody have any idea how many games will be tacked on to
the NHL season afte rthe additon of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks
(this has to be a joke ... right?) and Miami? Does this mean
the Stanley Cup will be decided in mid or late June? If so ...
yay. I'll finally get to enjoy an NHL playoff without finals
getting in the way.

Julian
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From: gen5061@husky1.stmarys.ca
Subject: Boston Massacre!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:49:46 GMT

Just a little note to Tom who obviously does not like Boston/Canadien fans
bashing each other.  Please do not read any further!  Otherwise shutup,
because this is an appropriate place for those kind of discussions.  Who
gave you permission to decide what us hockey fans discuss on rec.sport.hockey?

	There is only one thing sweeter then beating the Boston Bruins, to
a Canadiens fan, and that is slaughtering the Boston Bruins!  Well, I guess
winning the Stanley Cup has a nice appeal.  I hope other Montreal fans had
half as much satisfaction watching the Boston Massacre as I did.

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From: mgleason@cse.unl.edu (Mike Gleason)
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Subject: Re: Manon news
Date: 15 Dec 1992 08:39:39 GMT
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rcroteau@sobeco.com (r.croteau) writes:

|	I just heard on RDS that Manon played tonight.  She played during
|the second period for about 6 minutes allowing 1 goal on three shots. In the
|interview after the game she mentionned that she was happy that it happened
|this way and she can't wait before starting (and finishing) a game.

I saw the highlights on CNN.  She really shouldn't have given up that goal,
she got a little sloppy and when she tried to clear it out, an opponent
snagged it, skated around her and jammed it in.  Too bad, I was hoping for
a good performance so she would get to play more instead of being treated
like a circus-freak attraction to draw in the fans occasionally.

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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Radical Format Change (flame bait)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:50:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.195356.29881@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>
>The Stanley Cup playoffs more reliably decide whom the best team is than
>the regular season...
>
>1) The Stanley Cup playoffs more reliably produce repeat champions...

I don't think this really supports your point.  You can argue that this in
fact says that this supports the contention that the Cup playoffs does *not*
decide the best team, since if champions keep repeating, that might be an
indication that the format somehow favors some teams unfairly.
>
>2) The regular season schedule is unbalanced, eastern teams have an
>huge travel advantage in the regular season.

True.  I'd like to see some changes there.
>
>3) Regular season standings are affected by injuries...and by teams
>undergoing a learning curve.  Liberalized free agency means team
>turnover is going to be much larger in the future, and a good coach
>needs about 40 games for coaching to have any effect.

But the playoffs are even more affected by injuries.  One injury to your
#1 goalie, for example, and you get killed.  This is where I feel that the
intrinsic unfairness of the playoffs system is, since teams don't get a chance
to rebound from injury, et al.
>
>The regular season in the NHL is a development and learning phase...
>the playoffs are a testing phase.  As with individuals, teams learn
>and development and different paces, and the genius of the NHL is
>that it distinctly the testing phase and the rewards and glory from
>the learning and development phase.

But we all know that some teams' playing style are more suited to play some
teams than others.  For example, let's say that Ottawa, Tampa Bay, and San
Jose are in the playoffs.  Ottawa has just won the Wales Conference playoffs,
and is waiting for either San Jose or Tampa Bay.  Let's say that the talent
dictates that Tampa Bay > Ottawa > San Jose, so usually, you'd think that
Ottawa would prefer facing San Jose.  But it might very well be the case that
Ottawa's playing style makes it more prone to mistakes that San Jose can
capitalize on, while Tampa Bay's playing style makes it more prone to lose to
Ottawa.
>
>There is a strong correlation between regular season performance
>and playoff performance, but consistant winners in the playoffs tend
>not to sacrifice player and team development during the regular season.

Say "Minnesota."

Say "N. Y. Rangers."

Say "Edmonton."

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From: srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Stephen Klump)
Subject: Miami ______
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:30:31 GMT

Miami Snowbirds would be appropriate, but sounds wimpy - change it a little -
the Miami ... ICEHAWKS!  

If Disney (TM) calls their team the Mighty Ducks, it would be a hilarious
blow to the NHL's concern with its 'major-league' image.  Kind of like saying
'the Portland Buckaroos' with a straight face.

Stephen.
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From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Subject: Re: SCTV (was Re: Hockey Movies)
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:27:13 GMT

> David Brodbeck writes:
>
> >
> >All this talk of hockey movies reminds me of a skit I saw on SCTV a number
> >of years ago. (IMHO, SCTV was one of the best TV shows of all time.)
> >
> >It was a parody of Canadian filmmaking.  John Candy (if you can believe
> it)
> >played an up and coming hockey player named "Billy".  Joe Flaherty (whose
> >from Pgh., by the way) was the manager of his team.  It was hilarious.
> Does
> >anyone else remember this?
> >
> >Lori
> >
>
>
> Indeed!
>
> Canday played Daryl Sittler in his acting debut as "Billy Stempovalchiki".
> Flahrety played Dandy Dick Bedlow, (people from Ontario get the joke
> here and maybe some other Canadians, I doubt any Americans found it funny
> that he wore big hats and a bad suit) and Eugene Levy Sang the national
> anthem, the character was called "Murray Eagleson"
>
> The SCTV movie was called : "Billy's first Game"

I was definitely a Second City freak, but I don't remember this one. Was
Eugene Levy playing the role of Bobby Bittman when he sang the National
Anthem?

I remember another hockey skit they did. The idea was that Guy Lafleur
(played by Joe Flaherty) an Darryl Sittler (played by Dave Thomas?) were
supposed to be doing a commercial together, for some sort of breakfast
cereal. Problem is, when they're filming it, Sittler attempts to read the
cereal box, and discovers that he's looking at the French side. He says
something like "This #$%&# thing's in French!" Lafleur says, "Hey, it's one
of our national languages". Sittler calls Lafleur a frog, and things
deteriorate.

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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Lowe to Rangers (Was: NHL NEWS FOR 12 DECEMBER 1992)
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:20:21 GMT

epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard) writes:
>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>
>>The Village Voice is speculating that Lowe will be the next coach if
>>the Rangers don't go all the way this year.
>
>Since when does the Village Voice speculate on hockey?  

Any bad news is good news ... and if it's not bad, they'll just whine.

By the way, someone mentioned Keenan ... according to the rest of that
Voice article (I had time to glance at it a few seconds longer before
dumping it in the recycler (-;), Lowe is not considered a threat to
Neil Smith.  With Keenan, it could be Smith's neck after Neilsen's.

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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The Anaheim Mice and the Miami vICE may be in!
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:43:23 GMT
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

macauley@bmerh760.bnr.ca (John MacAuley) writes:

>If any city in North America deserves a franchise it is Hamilton.

You know, I'd point out the attendance at the most recent Hamilton neutral
site game, but I get the feeling nobody would realize I was poking fun. 

The only real problem is that the NHL is trying to turn hockey from a minor,
Canadian-oriented hockey to a major, North American sport. To do that, they
have to move into the major metropolitan areas, because down that road lies
the bigger media contracts, which will allow for more money and later
expansion (at least in theory) as the audience expands. 

So while Hamilton is a great hockey town, it's not a great expansion town
under the current mindthink. Which is too bad for Hamilton. It's also the
major reason why Buffalo didn't get an expansion team in baseball. They're
looking at setting up hockey to be a viable player in the next ten-15 years,
which if it works will be good for the sport overall, but that means going
into major U.S. markets and convincing them that hockey's fun. 

And if it fails, then hockey will go back to being the fourth sport and
you'll be able to watch four games a month on SportsChannel, except that it
isn't carried on your cable system. 

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From: tvorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tommy Che Vorst)
Subject: Best joke of the season so far
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:31:35 GMT

Quoting from Ed Willes of this a.m.'s Sun:


What's the difference between the Ottawa Senators and a cigarette machine?

The machine has Players.

Pa-Da Pum!

Thank you very much, Drive Safely.
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From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: The Miami ???? vs the Anaheim ?????
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 13:48:01 GMT
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In <1992Dec11.170111.20032@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca writes:

> 
> Anyone have any ideas for nicknames for the new teams?
> How about some jokes and some serious ones
> 
> The Miami Riot; the Miami Ice; the Miami Old People; the Miami Videos;
> The Miami Transplanted Canadiens; the Miami Olsens (get it? Marlin Olsen)
> 
> The Anaheim Lick Manoevers (say it :-); the California Raisins, 
> California Golden Mice
> 
> Or how about just calling them both the Rough Riders?

How 'bout the Miami Snowbirds (=most fans are Canadians/easterners anyway) and
the California Gold (=as in the 1849 gold rush)?
 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Dave             -  Montreal Canadiens win Cup #24 in 1992-92 NHL season   -
> - Lisogurski       -      5 players over 80 pts (#11, 18, 23, 25, 47)        -
> - Toronto, Canada  -  Montreal Expos win National East in 1993 MLB season    _
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From: kdc@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: Re: SCTV (was Re: Hockey Movies)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:13:10 GMT

In article <Bz1xy7.CoH.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>
>All this talk of hockey movies reminds me of a skit I saw on SCTV a number
 >of years ago. (IMHO, SCTV was one of the best TV shows of all time.)
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     I agree with you!  

>
>It was a parody of Canadian filmmaking.  John Candy (if you can believe it)
>played an up and coming hockey player named "Billy".  Joe Flaherty (whose
>from Pgh., by the way) was the manager of his team.  It was hilarious.  Does
>anyone else remember this?
>
>Lori
>

  Yes, I remember it.    John Candy (though still chunky in those days)
 was a bit smaller then.  I also remember John Candy as Darryl Sittler
 amazing resemblance considering....
 
   Ken

From: patm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Pat Murphy)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:52:33 GMT
Subject: Re: Lindros injury/Flyers Lie
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey



like its been mentioned before, i gotta believe the FLYERS front
office, the doctors and eric are takin' their time with this one...
why put in a less-than-100% lindros and risk a more severe injury?


	G O  F L Y E R S !!!

pjm
From: barbie@cs35b.cs.umn.edu (Shannon Fairbanks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Snuggerud Trade? Re: <None>
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:12:18 GMT
Organization: none

I'm not sure if this is a rumor or an actual event, but I heard that 
Dave Snuggerud had been traded as of 12/19 from the San Jose Sharks to
(I think it was) the Philadelphia Flyers.  I'd appreciate any 
confirmation of this (or denial, if it's just a rumor) ASAP, as I
know of a couple of people who were planning on flying out to San Jose
to visit him on or around 12/30, and if this is indeed true, they'll 
need to change their flight bookings...!

Responses to e-mail, please, and I'll post a summary to the group.
Thank you!     
__________________________________________________________________
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From: hujic@ecf.toronto.edu (HUJIC DAMIR)
Subject: Re: The Anaheim Mice and the Miami vICE may be in!
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:15:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.161527.3370@bmers145.bnr.ca> macauley@bmerh760.bnr.ca (John MacAuley) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.124224.19160@abo.fi>, MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI
>(Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>|>
>|>Wrong again, Gerald! Hamiltonians already have the Maple Leafs and
>Sabres (OK,
>|>some distance away though). The three established franchises around the
>|>Southern Ontario area (Toronto, Buffalo, Detroit) don't need another team
>|>stealing their fans. 
>|>
>|>MARCU$
>=================================
>
>MARCU$,
>
>If any city in North America deserves a franchise it is Hamilton.  They have
>the BEST facility, the best fans, and great financial support.  

Fans and financial support is questionable.  NHL games in Hamilton are a
bust this season.  And I doubt that Hamilton could get 16,000 season
ticket holders (like they said they had the past expansion time).  Somehow
putting $50 bucks down for season's tickets, is not the same as putting
$4000 for a pair, especially in Hamilton.

>Having lived
>in Niagara for all my life I can say that a team in Hamilton would not hurt
>Detroit (4hrs. away), Toronto (1 hr of hell driving), or Buffalo (1.5hrs to one
>of the worst facilities in hockey).  Try getting a ticket to a Toronto game!
>It is nearly impossible, not to mention an expensive task.  I definitly don't
>want to drive 4hrs to see a hockey game in Detroit on any regular schedule.
>Heck, if you are going to use the proximity theory for an excuse, why don't
>you mention that Montreal is only 7hrs away.  I drove 9hrs to see game 2 of
>Montreal vs Boston last year.  I definitly want to drive 9hrs for each home
>game in the regular season.
>
>Let us take a tally:
>
>	1) Toronto - can't get tickets, atleast 1hr of hell driving.
>	2) Detroit - 4hrs, I think not!
>	3) Ottawa - ooops, I live here and I even forget them!
>	4) Montreal - same as above.
>	5) Any other Canadian City - nope.
>	6) Buffalo - just can't bring myself to go to a crappy facility
>		     to see a team I can't stand.  Heck why not move
>		     Buffalo to Hamilton if so many Hamiltonians are going
>		     there?  In fact very few people from Hamilton make the
>		     drive.
>
>I say let's move the Whalers from that GOD forsaken hockey hell to the
>steal capital of Canada!
>
>By the way, I was a confirmed Hamilton season ticket holder when Tampa
>received their team :(

I do not forsee Hamilton doing any better over a long NHL run, than 
Winnipeg.  Unless they had a winning team, they would not sell out
75% of their home games.

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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio;6442;3.55;)
Subject: Re: John MacLean ??
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:12:26 GMT

In article <Dec20.005825.27687@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> smith%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu writes:
>Devils fans: What is wrong with John MacLean?
>
>He plays every night but rarely scores?
>1) Is his knee still a problem?
>2) Is he trying to pull a John Cullen and be traded?
>3) Was his previous success only due to the presence of
>   Muller and Shanahan?

His knee seems O.K., and I doubt he wants a trade THAT badly.  The main
problem is that he is playing with Kevin Todd, who is in a big funk.
They seem to be the third line, and therefore don't see too much
power-play time.  I also think that, knowing MacLean, he is putting a
ton of pressure on himself to do better, which can't help at all...

-JPC

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