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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:27:47 -0600
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LWP Kermit Transfer?

>Assuming that you have a packet driver, Kermit 3.11 supports TCP/IP directly.
>I'm pretty sure LAN Workplace for DOS comes with a packet driver for ODI,
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>otherwise there are public domain drivers available, or sometimes the NIC
>comes with one.
        Not from Novell!
        As explained earlier, either run Kermit over LWP over ODI, or just run
Kermit over ODI or over a Packet Driver.
        Joe D.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:56:52 EDT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Lewis Maximin <LEMHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Group lists

Hi Netfolks,
Does anyone know the subcription processes for the following lists:
Pegasus Mail
Charon
Mac/Apple users group {pref. one that deals with integration/networking}
Appleshare users group?!?

Queries sent to the Listserv via the normal processes draw a BLANK.  Also
the addresses they gave do not give a response. Thanks in advance.

Lewis Maximin
Technical Support Specialist      JESUS is my life
Hunter College                     BUT
Bitnet:   LEMHC@CUNYVM              Computers are my playthings!!
Internet: LEMHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Standard Disclaimers Apply!!!
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:54:49 CDT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Everett Dowd <edowd@ZEUS.ESUSDA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Ni5210 driver is nowhere to be found (ftp)?
              "NOVELERR@SUVM.SYR.EDU" at Oct 2, 92 7:56 am

You can get the driver from the RACAL BBS. Given a day or so, I think I can
make it available via anonymous ftp or if someone would like to let me put
it on a novell site....


Everett.

NOVELERR@SUVM.SYR.EDU
>
> Hi,
>
> I need Netware 3.11 driver for my Racal Interlan Ni5210 card. I've tried
> archie and most novell ftp sites with no luck. I can't believe how hard
> it is for me to get a hold of this driver for my NetWare 3.11.
> Am I missing something? Is the driver not available from any Ftp sites?
>
> Any help will be appreciated,
> Thanx
> Regards,
> --
> -tanu-
> tanu@beach.csulb.edu
> CSULB LIB LAB
>
>


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From: R.Thirlby@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: WANTED: YOUR .NCFs
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: R.Thirlby@lut.ac.uk (Rob Thirlby)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

A relevant but very noddy question...

How do you type long lines (ie >80 chars?) such as 

bind IP ...... addr=internet address bcast=internet address gate=internet
address mask=internet address   etc....

Our Novell administrator cannot find any reference to a line continuation
convention in the manuals!  

Interactively it is possible to leave out the adrresses and let it prompt
for them.  This is clearly not possible in an ncf

Im sure we are being somewhat blind but need help.

Thanks in advance,   Rob Thirlby
. 
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:40:14 CST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         ROSS@ETSUADMN.BITNET
Subject:      Re: printing advice

On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:26:00 EST SHEL SAX (802)388-3711X5323 said:
>Being new to Novell setups, I'd like to ask for printing advice.  We're
>setting up a 20 workstation classroom/lab and need to provide printing
>services.  The current plan calls for one laser printer and two ink jet
>printers. First question, what printers would you recommend. Second, does
>anybody make a 'black box' or interface for a printer so that it can sit on
>the network cabling directly rather than having to hang of a server or
>workstation running rprinter.  Thanks.

Two answer both questions, I would recommend an HP Laserjet II, IID, III, or
IIID.  There is an interface available from HP that will allow it to act as
a standalone printer server on the network as you wanted.  It comes in 3
flavors: ThinLAN, 10BASE-T or Token-Ring.  We have three of these, 2 in
offices, and one in a PC lab.  The set up is as easy as setting up any other
printer on the net.

If you didn't want to go the HP route or you already have another existing
laser printer you can go another route, and this is how you can set up your
ink jet printers too:

This method involves the "black box" you were wondering about.  I am sure
there are others available, but one such box I came across allows you to
hook up a printer with a Centronics parallel interface to this box, and the
box acts just like the interface card from HP.  It actually becomes a print
server, and plugs directly into the network.  It too comes in three flavors:
Thinnet, Thicknet, and Twisted Pair.  No Token-Ring version is available.
You can get each of these three boxes with one or two parallel ports.

These and HP's interface work with both Netware 286 and 386.


The company I found selling this box is MISCO, 1-800-333-5640.
The prices for the "box" are $495 for 1 port, and $595 for the 2 port version.
I am not sure of the current price for the HP interface.

Hope this helps.

Jeff Ross

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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:14:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Date: Thu 1 Oct 92 07:41:01-HST

Books on Netware for the Mac: just one that I know of.

Netware: the Macintosh connection by Marty Jost, published by Windcrest/McGraw-
Hill @ $22.95 (I paid nearly that much in pounds sterling for it - the cost of
American books here is nearly twice as much as Americans pay for them!). It's
good on the use of Netware for the Mac from the enduser's viewpoint but it
quite firmly states that it does not deal with the installation or
 configurationof the software. I found this rather a lack so the book is not
 much use if you
want something really technical.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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From: chad.w.german.1@nd.edu (Chad W. German)
Subject: OS/2 Error message 
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:29:25 GMT

When trying to attach to a Novell file server from a PC client running OS/2 
I'm getting the error message of "NDOUC:Unknown error returned by attach(
880f).  Any suggestions on what is error means and the actions to remedy the 
problem......

Thanks in advance for all info
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:20:45 EST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Eric Olson <ERIC@CHIP.CBA.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      IP Tunneling - max # servers? WHY?

There are certain IP-only-evangelists on our campus who are crying
out for the Novell community to use IP-tunneling.  There are over 100
NetWare servers on campus (mostly 3.11, a few 2.2).

I seem to recall recommendations that no more than 6-8 servers be
connected using IP tunneling.  Can anyone tell me WHY this is so?

My gut reactions about IP tunneling are:
   1) increased load on the NetWare servers
   2) no less traffic on the backbone
   3) reduced performance where an IP-tunneling hop occurs
      (drastically reduced, or just somewhat?  numbers anyone?)

Thanks in advance for your responses.

Eric Olson
eric@chip.cba.ufl.edu
College of Business Admin.
University of Florida
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From: tanu@beach.csulb.edu (     Tanu Kartawiria)
Subject: Help. Installing ESDI and NI5210 card on server 3.11
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:16:31 GMT


Hi,
This maybe a very easy question. But I'm new to this, so any help will
be appreciated.
I'm trying to install a 3.11 server with ESDI disk and Micom Ni5210 card
(on a Zenith 386-25). The problem is, I can't find any disk driver for
ESDI disk, what comes from Install disk is ISADISK.DSK. Can I use that one for
the ESDI card?

Another question: The disk that comes with the Micom NI5210 card has a server 
driver only for Netware 2.15. Can I use that driver for a 3.11 server?
Or can anybody tell me where I can get a new updated driver (ftp)?

PS: please e-mail if possible.

Thanx Much,
Regards
-- 
-tanu-
tanu@beach.csulb.edu
CSULB LIB LAB
From: BUTTS#@SHOCKER.EE.TWSU.EDU (Ronald W. Butts)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: LANSpool 3.5 and ODI drivers
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:33:04 GMT
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Hi,

I've remember hearing mumblings about ODI and LANSpool not getting along,
but it didn't matter to me at the time...
I have scanned the message archives, and found complaints on NOVELL@.. but
no answer.

Whenever I load the LANSpool remote printer driver on top of IPXODI, the
workstation will hang within a few minutes. On a hunch, I tried upping the
"GET LOCAL TARGET STACKS" option in NET.CFG, but that did not help.

I only have two types of NIC's (from same manufacturer) so I cant say
definitively whether problem is with LANSpool or particular NIC driver.
Apparently, tho, others have had problems...

Has anyone overcome initial difficulties to get LANSPool remote to work
over ODI? If so what did you do?

Thanks,
Bill


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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:28:01 +0100
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         "(An OCR-IP fan)" <KBS@FRUNIP62.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Security Risk...

Is the program you're writing about available.
If yes, where?
If not, why? 8)=
Can it break 3.11 and 2.2 security? Any patch(es)?
Is Knock a good reason to upgrade from 2.15c to 2.2 and 3.10 to 3.11?
(or similar)
Is the encrypted/not crypted, password the reason why Knockes work?

Just a worried Sysop :)

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From: TON@LET.RUG.NL (Ton Roovers)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: This List
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:59:01 GMT
Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, RUG, NL
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Rod Wilson <Rod.Wilson@BARCLAYS.CO.UK> writes:

> Whenever I send an email to the list, it seems to now pass it on to
> compuserve, and I get a bounced mail message from the
> postmaster@compuserve.com.
> Is anybody else experiencing the same problem?

Yes, exactly the same story over here...


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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:54:20 EST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         DSHUMAN@INDYMED.BITNET
Subject:      How to keep old path

On old netware versions some sort of fix-path may be necessary, but you
may find an easier solution in the MAP INSERT option for mapping your
search drives in the login script or wherever.  This retains your DOS PATH
directories and just "shoves them down" and puts the novell directories
in front.

You have:  PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\123

add:       MAP INSERT S1:=server1\SYS:\PUBLIC

and get:   PATH=Z:.;C:;D:\DOS;C:\123

Then when you logout, the Z:. (which is the PUBLIC mapped S1) drops off
and you have left what you started with.

The caveat is that a verrrrry long PATH statement to start with will get
too long for DOS (128 bytes???) and lose the rightmost end.
Dave Shuman    DSHUMAN@INDYMED.iupui.edu
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:59:52 BST
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From:         "A.G. Lowe-Norris" <agl1@LEICESTER.AC.UK>
Subject:      Urgent: Ownership of files

Dear all,

        Does anyone know of any utility that will allow you to recusively
descend and change the ownership of files on NetWare v3.11 (running the Name
service).
	We originally had CHOWN by the University of Delaware (1988), but it
appears to hang for us, possibly due to the Name service?
	I have FTP'd CHOWN & CHOWN1 from splicer, yet these only work with
directories & not files.

Thanks, Alistair.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:40:36 HST
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From:         COURTNEY@MCCADA.MAUICC.HAWAII.EDU
Subject:      Date: Thu 1 Oct 92 07:41:01-HST

From: MENEHUNE DELUXE <COURTNEY@MCCADA>
To: novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Subject: Books covering Netware for the Mac

Hi,
   Is anyone aware of a good book(s) that covers NW4Mac?? I am quite new
to the Mac environment and to me, the Red book covering this leaves too
much to the imagination.

   Aloha,
         Bill    courtney@mccada.mauicc.hawaii.edu
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From: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar)
Subject: Problem to configure SYTOS software in NW 3.11 - Need Help !
Organization: IKE
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:44:33 GMT



   Hey,

   I have a problem to configure SYTOS Streamer Software for NOVELL
   Netware V 3.11. If I configure the software with NETWORK=YES and
   want to start SYTOS, the following error message appears :

     Create group EVERYONE, add all users, start SYTOS again

   But the group EVERYONE exists. If I configure the software with
   NETWORK=NO, I get an error reading FAT and cannot continue with
   batch. The SYTOS software has the version V3.11 (1984-1989).
   The following parameters are set : DMA=3, INT=3, I/O=2AC.
   What have I done wrong ? Please mail me your informations !


   Thanks for your efforts,

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From: TON@LET.RUG.NL (Ton Roovers)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: Patchman.nlm
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:28:24 GMT
Reply-To: Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, RUG, NL
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jdolina%NETWORK@IBM4381.ONET.EDU asks:
>       Where can I obtain the newest version of PATCHMAN.NLM

Version 2.23 of PATCHMAN.NLM is on risc.ua.edu (130.160.4.7)
                             in pub/network/novlib/04/311pt7.zip
And of course on other ftp hosts with novlib on it...


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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:01:00 GMT
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From:         GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: This List

Yes, I too have noticed a regular bounce of my messages to the list and also
from compuserve.com. Nonetheless my messages are getting through to somebody
as I do get replies when I make queries. Anybody fron the U.S. or elsewhere
getting this bounce or do we have a Janet problem her in the U.K.?

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: IP Tunneling - max # servers? WHY?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:54:09 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

In article <Oct.6.12.39.16.1992.29279@dorm.rutgers.edu> medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) writes:
>ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
>>In article <01GPIAPRIFJY91X7C5@CC.USU.EDU> Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET> writes:
>>>I have yet to hear of one decent reason to restrict the backbone to IP only
>>>traffic.
>>>        Joe D.
>
>>What about "lack of multiprotocol routers"
>
>I don't see any definciency of multiprotocol routers in the market.

Oh, they're in the market all right!  It's just difficult to make a
business case (on a tight budget) for _buying_ them, when the only
benefits are a slight performance improvement, and ease of maintenance
(against claims that IP tunnelling is easier, of course).

>> and "avoidance of interference
>>from badly-configured LANs on the same WAN?"  Don't you ever get cases
>>where some idiot starts spewing broadcast IPX packets all over the campus,
>
>With abut a half-dozen protocols, including IP, IPX and AppleTalk2 as
>the major bandwidth consumers, this has not been a problem here.
>Not necessarilly.  However, tunnelling certainly makes attempting to
>troubleshoot this problem and most other WAN problems much more
>difficult.  Not only do you have to decode the IP packet, but then you
>have to unwrap the underlying protocol and decode it.  What tools
>would you use to accomplish this?

Well, one of the points of a tunnel is that everything goes through it.
Surely that makes debugging _easier_?

>We have over 50 NetWare boxes, 150 AppleShare boxes, 100 DECnet boxes,
>50 terminal servers, a few IBM mainframes and a couple thousand
>UNIX/IP boxes all talking their native protocols accross our backbone.

I'm impressed (really), but do you have a central number allocation
authority?  Did you set this up before people started wanting to connect
their NetWare systems to the WAN?

>The biggest obstacle to opening the single-protocol WAN is getting
>folks to realize that their familiar protocol of choice is not the
>center of the universe.

I don't think that is the case for us. We are quite new to IP too.

The fact that Novell doesn't seem very happy with networking standards
doesn't inspire confidence.  E.g. their dithering between DIX and 802.3,
or their use of LSAPs. I believe they use global LSAPs, which sounds like
a bad idea (please correct me if I'm wrong).
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:31:14 IST
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From:         Chezy Gal <A45%TAUNIVM.BITNET@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Networld event

Hi,

Is there any special event on Networld for this group ?

Chezy Gal
Tel-aviv University
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:46:56 EDT
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From:         CS06999 <CS06999@MONTCOLC.BITNET>
Subject:      which is better IP tunneling or IPX routing?

were about ready to install our second novell 3.11 file server on a
primarily IP based campus internet. our end result will be two 50
station token rings running IP and IPX. They will be joined at the
router. The router can route IP and IPX protocols. My question is
should we set up IP tunneling between the LAN's or should we let the
router do the work? Or won't this scenerio work?

I would appreciate being nudged in the "prefered" direction before
I spend time diddling with both to see which I think is best.

thanks!

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