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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Date: 27 Aug 92 07:57:18 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <27AUG199204220421@erich.triumf.ca>, ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.222309.26995@ge-dab.GE.COM>,
> 	 jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski) writes...
> petcock: n. a small valve or tap, as for draining off excess or waste material
> from the cylinder of a steam-engine or for checking the water-level in a
> boiler. [PET(TY)+COCK(1)]
> 
> cock(1): n. ... 6. a device for permitting or arresting the flow of a liquid
> or gas from a receptacle or through a pipe; a tap or stop valve.
> 
> Guess that wouldn't play in North America, let alone Peoria.
>			ivan@cvax.psi.ch


the 'petty' part then is of french derivation: "petit" cock, or small cock,
something you folks in ".ch" would know all about :-)

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-- bob pasker
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From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:45:10 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Sunday August 23 1992 18:14, Martin Golding wrote to All:

 >> First off, you HAVE to countersteer to turn ANY two-wheeled
 >> conveyance when the two wheels are aligned in the same track.

 MG> You are wrong. I have proven it. I am willing to prove it in your
 MG> presence, on your motorcycle. Just give me a call before you fly it
 MG> here.

I will agree that a very very slow (any diameter) turn can be initiated
and completed without countersteer (which is to say, front wheel always
points left for a left turn and right for a right turn, never crossing
zero degrees into the opposite quadrant), because I've done it several
times. It feels unnatural to lean out of the turn to hold the bike up
when you know you will fall over away from the turn, but you don't. As
long as you NEVER countersteer during the turn.

I noticed when I practiced it that the tendancy is to momentarily counter-
steer to initiate such a turn, because it makes it easier.

Are you willing to let me take your motorcycle, put a steering head lock
on it so it can't turn right (or left, your choice) and then you do a turn,
say 100 feet in diameter, 90 degrees entrance to exit, in the direction
of the quandrant the front wheel CAN turn in? All you have to do is ride
25 yards to the curve, negotiate the curve, and ride 25 yards past the
exit of the curve, without touching any part of your body to the road.

Lets say, you have to maintain a speed of 40 miles per hour, that should
be quite easy and normal for such a curve, eh?

If you are willing, and I can find the appropriate steering dampner/lock
for your moto, we'll set it up. I'll bring the video camera, we'll show
it at the '93 Joust as proof (or lack of, depending on outcome) that a
practical turning maneuver can be negotiated without the presence of
countersteer at any time during the turn.

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
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John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: My bike got vandalized last night
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:00:20 GMT
Organization: Sequoia Computer Systems

In article <Aug.25.10.27.32.1992.26127@remus.rutgers.edu>, kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
> Anyone know the legal liability of the bar?  How do I pursue reimbursement
> if the bar is liable?  It's New Jersey.

Sorry Kevin, I agree with the people who say: "leave the bar out of it".

I hope the guy shows up in court. If not, I hope you figure out where he
lives...

Paul Cantrell
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From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: Re: Thanks a pant's full, DoD...
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:09:09 GMT

In a previous article, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) said:
:- 
:- Massachusetts-Recommended: Western half of state (west of Worcester), "almost
:-    anyshere in the western Berkshires", Cape Cod(*).  Advised Against: Cape
:-    Cod(*), Massachusetts Turnpike,Greater Boston area (especially area around
:-    Logan airport), Springfield.  Favorite Roads: Hwy 2 (Mohawk Trail), Hwy 9
:-    Northampton to Pittsfield, Loop route on Hwys 2,8,116,112,Hwy 57 - Feeding
:-    Hills to Barrington.  (*Note: for the record the Massachutes respondents

	nice list! i would add (at the risk of being flamed) to the list
	above, some roads i enjoy riding on, in massachussetts: I190
	(ok, its an interstate .. is it? ... but its beautiful and
	mostly traffic free), Route 68, Route 31, (route 62 would be
	nice if they relaid it).... some more i have forgotten... maybe
	i will add on later!

	the originator of this thread (Peter Simon?) had a point about
	responses from the net... quite a few times i have asked
	questions (pleaded for answers that would've saved my life ;)
	and waited (and am still waiting) for answers! but then again,
	the overwhelming response from the net at other times more than
	made up for that! in a recent post, i had asked for interesting
	routes on the way to georgia from new york, and was pleasantly
	surprised by the detailed responses i received (this post is a
	BIG THANKS to all those who responded. i sent out individual
	mail to you guys from a uucp site, which i have reason to doubt
	did not reach you). all i can say is that, there are times when
	there just might be nobody who knows the answers to your
	question, or times when people who might have the answers miss
	your post, or times when people just do not have the time to
	respond!! (after all responses from the net is not a right!).
	but the feeling of frustration that comes out of waiting for a
	response for a simple question, and seeing none, is
	udnerstandable too. (do you think i make a good politician?? ;).
	hope you have better luck next time!

	btw, could i slip in a quick question here? ;)

	happy riding,

	- ravi


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From: pfs@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Paul Schnettler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:54:52 GMT
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin

In article <1992Sep3.142538.12613@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>In <1992Sep2.185221.10526@leland.Stanford.EDU> 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss) writes:
>
>>klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>>>john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>>>
>>>>In the neighborhood I live in, there are about half a dozen such creatures.
>>>>They ride FZRs and GSXRs, wearing tie-dyed baggy cotton pants, sneakers
>>>>without socks, and baggy sleeveless mesh t-shirts. Oh, and helmets. Everytime
>>>>I see them, the scar on my leg aches, and I wonder how many milliseconds the
>>>>cotton will hold before it shreds. Before mandatory helmets, they sported
>>>>rainbow-hued Scott sunglasses which matched their outfits. I miss that touch.
>>>>;-)
>>>
>>>>Of course, we hardly ever see such a creature up at Alice's, nor have I ever
>>>>been passed by one in a canyon, though I've been passed by just about every-
>>>>thing else. Which leaves me to assume these are grocery store vehicles.
>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>  Suck me off Cock Breath.
>>>     Keep your assumptions to yourself.
>>>              XXXOOO
>>>                    Jorg
>
>>  Heavens, that was unjustified.  John's point was obviously not that
>>*all* FZRs or *all* GSXRs were grocery-store vehicles.  It's simply that
>>the people who dress in neon cotton outfits typically aren't found
>>riding the twisties around here; thus the assumption that their vehicles,
>>however capable, are being used for mundane purposes like shopping
>>and posing.
>
>>  Seems like John touched a raw nerve.  Are you a neon-clad poser, too?
>>-- 
>  Yeah, he hit a raw nerve. I guess cause sport bikes are the best
>handling, quickest (not necessarily fastest) bikes around its reasonable
>to assume that only amatures ride them. Sounds like too many of you have
>been blown off by neon kids and carry a grudge against the bikes.
>                                    
>                                          Jorg

Jorg, get a clue.
John Hamilton rides a ZX-11
Could probably give you a few lessons in quick handling too...
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Some addresses, please.
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:58:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug31.205836.432
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug31.193826.13780@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>
>I'm extremely pissed off at the g-damned stinking sh#t hole where I bought
>my bike and I want some people to know what a Sh#tty place they are.  So
>if the collective wisdom of the DoD could supply me with the addresses of
>the following, I'd really appreciate it.
>
>	Ducati
>	Moto Guzzi
>	BMW
>	Harley-Davidson
>	Suzuki
>	Honda
>	Kawasaki
>	Yamaha

You're right.  Any dealer that handles all those makes, but not
Triumph orNorton, let alone Spagthorpe, has got to be a slimebag
operation.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: lane splitting
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:41:59 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Aug26.185742.12827@javelin.sim.es.com>,
llane@javelin.sim.es.com (Laura Lane) writes: 
> Hi I'm a new reader to the group so please be easy on the flames:
> 
> IMO it's not very safe from an insurance point of view. 

blaine put you up to this, right?  what clued me in was:

> When I lived in
> Calif. 

moving from california to utah is an udder absurdity, so therefore 
you post is a fake.


-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelies
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:39:25 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1992Sep3.180824.24052@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>rtaraz@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>
>>I just bought a Kawi EX500 (first bike) and was wondering how I can practice
>>doing wheelis without killing myself or droping the bike?
>
>This is impossible, you will either kill yourself or drop your bike
>while trying to learn how to wheelie. The best way to learn is on a
>lightweight dirtbike, on some soft dirt, with lots of protective gear.
>
>If you want a less painful way, try learning on a bicycle, the crash
>speeds are likely to be lower.


Gee, and to think, I learn how to wheelie with a blond on the back of
my EX500 going down a country road at night . . . 




-- 
I love the 3b2
The 3b2 is my friend.
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: precations to take before starting a bike that's been sitting too long
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:35:22 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

so, we've found the second dirt bike.  this one is an '84 XL350R (yes, 350). 
it has about 1000 miles on it and is in very fine physical condition, except
that it has not been ridden very much recently and hasn't been started in over
a year (if not two).  (right, i have neither started nor ridden it.) 

so, i've heard tell that starting (esp. kickstarting) a bike that has not been
started in that long a period of time can be damanging to the engine if certain
precautions are not taken to introduce oil into some probably very dry areas of
the internal part of the internal combustion engine. 

can someone please relate these very important details to me so that i may be
'up and running' on this bike for al conte's nephew's arrival? 

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: slappers
Keywords: wobbler
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:30:38 GMT

klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>In <15260@suns1.crosfield.co.uk> gxw@crosfield.co.uk (garry wilmot) writes:

>>Can someone please clarify what causes tank slappers and how
>>to ride them out.

>I've actually never had one but watched a few of my friends have theirs (high
>power, modified geometry Triumphs) and don't beleive there is much anyone
>can do. But feel free to experiment.

I had one, and that was plenty. It was on the freeway at night on my
then new '78 GS1000E. Just as I stuck my left hand up inside my full
face helmet to push my glasses back up, I hit 2 or 3 large chuckholes on
one of the Interstate bridges. The bike did a rapid & violent series of
tankslappers, near full lock with the bike pitching wildly from side to
side at first, and then it rapidly damped out. I didn't have time to do
anything more than think "This is going to hurt when I hit the ground!"
I'd just barely got my hand out of the helmet and was trying to get hold
of the left grip when the bike sorted itself out. I'd dropped down from
around 65 to 45 mph during this, and was quite content to putt along at
45 for a few miles until the adrenaline wore off.

Was it Eddie Lawson that recommended stopping tank slappers by lifting
the front wheel? :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ST1100 impressions
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:18:47 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <JET.92Sep2095542@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>"bob" == Bob Palin <bob@csbvax.uucp> writes:
>
>bob> it is an overweight pig. In truth it is a fine handling bike for
>
>Having been severely zoomed by Bob + pillion/back-protector :-) on his
>ST1100, I'm surprised that he would consider it a pig.  Overweight,
>perhaps, but if it's a pig, it's a fucking agile pig.

At least he didn't send you into a wall by making himself un-catchuptoable
on twisty road with said pillion :-). 

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* Yamama 650 Maxim           | "I'd like a large Ducati, with extra 'g's."  * 
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | "Would you like that delivered?"             * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | "No, I'll come pick it up."                  *
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If money grew on trees...
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:56:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug28.185634.8692
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <xtdns6g@quantum.on.ca> dagibbs@quantum.on.ca (David Gibbs) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.000026.5975@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> wjp@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.j.penschow) writes:

>>Ooofff! Lets try Corvette, Lamborghini Contach (sp), or almost any "Sports"
>>luxury car!
>
>They were talking travelling in COMFORT here.  Neither the Corvette nor
>the Countach qualify as comfortable cars -- a friend of mine has done
...
>top of the line BMW's, or Mercedes, or maybe the equivalent car from
>one of the Japanese manufacturers.

If you're already in the price range of the Countach, why not head straight
for a Rolls?  Or be thrifty, and go for an XJ12.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: shinh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Shinjiro Hirose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Back in the saddle
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:05:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mass General Hospital NMR Imaging Center


Hi all,

	It's been a year now since I sold my last bike, 1988
Honda Hawk GT, and the urge to ride has overcome my fear
of Boston traffic.  I still believe that motorcycling in Boston
is not terribly good for my health, but I'm being very careful...
	The new bike: a 1980 Honda CB750-F.  Yes, it's old, and yes
 it's big, but it's a lot more fun to ride than I thought it'd be.
It came with these very large bars that *had* to go, so I promptly
put some "SuperBike" bars on.  Now the riding position is a bit
more aggressive, and I don't feel like a sail on the highway anymore.  
The engine has 12,000 miles on it, and is running strong.  I hear these
Honda inline-fours are very dependable, so I hope to have little 
mechanical trouble (yeah, right, on a twelve year-old bike! 8-)!).
The final drive on the bike (at least that's what a mechanic said
it was) is quite noisy; this fact was unnerving at first.  I thought
the engine was on its last legs or something.  I guess that's normal
behavior, though, so I'm trying to get used to it.  
	So, according to this old dude at "People's Motorcycle 
Salvage" in Newton, MA, Honda sold literally millions of these bikes.
Does anyone out there in net-land own one of these?  I'm trying to 
find out if there are any "essential" modifications for this bike.
Lots of the 750-Fs that I looked at had Kerker pipes and K&N single filter 
kits.  Do these mods make the bike that much faster? (or quicker?)
Or is it just for the sound as you twist open the throttle (yes, it
sounds good to me!)  I once owned a Kawasaki GpZ 550 with a Kerker 
and it *seemed* faster than a stock one, but I can't be sure.  Does 
anyone have any experience with both stock and modified? 
	I'm really happy with this bike, though.  I was really surprised
to find that a bike made in 1980 had triple discs, (single piston calipers
though), and stock rear suspension adjustable for spring compression, plus
rebound and compression damping.  I guess the CB900-Fs and 1100-Fs
were a lot more sporty than my bike, though.  Has anyone out there with a 
750-F put the 900-F two-piston calipers on his/her bike?  Any
other good mods/trades for this bike?
	Anyways, I'm off to ride home from work, and then off for a 
quick ride.  See ya!



--Shin Hirose
shinh@nmr-r.mgh.harvard.edu

I don't have a .sig yet...
8-(
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:51:59 GMT
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Sep1.000940.26559@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.220417.1630@news.columbia.edu> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug31.191447.21323@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>>	
>>	[stuff about bike size deleted]
>>
>>>Obviously you're of the "here's the clutch, there's the brake"
>>>school of thought on how to get newbies involved in motorcycling.
>>>I'd rather that the people I teach or advise start a little
>>>easier but stay with the sport forever because they didn't get in over
>>>their heads and scare themselves.
>>
>>	People who are scared don't belong on motorcycles... I think the
>>	"here's the clutch" method is good natural selection.
>
>Natural selection is well and good when it applies to people I
>don't care about, or weenies with cute ascii pictures in their 7 line .sigs.

	Obviously not much to do if you're counting the lines in my .sig...

>However, when it comes to me and mine, I prefer to create
>all the advantages I can.  In an uncharacteristic fit of
>friendliness, I extended that to include whoever it was that
>posted asking for newbie advice.  I'd rather see newbies happily on
>a bike instead of a red smear on the pavement or scared back into
>a cage.  There's less traffic that way. :-)
>
>If I followed YOUR advice, I'd just respond "Fuck you!  Ride or die!"
>to the next newbie.

	Pretty much... I thought you wanted to die young in black leather!

>Cool .sig, d00d.
>I'm SO IMPRESSED by your POSSESSIONS.

	Thanks... I kind of like them myself!
>--
>Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	No fun... even I can count to one!

	Not bad Eric... if you were smart enough to figure it out, I bet
	you could have gotten a DoD number... then again, maybe not...

	Flame me again tomorrow morning, would you? It was almost interesting.
	With some practice, it might even wake me up. I could save on coffee...

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From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Almost there.........
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:57:14 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Monday August 31 1992 23:31, Richard A. Swift wrote to All:

 RAS> After first sighting her I thought, "Hmm... maybe, oh just maybe shes an
 RAS> uptight bitch (TM), or at the very least a female cager (TM)", since I
 RAS> know the DOD does sanction the extermination of said females. But, alas
 RAS> this was not the case. Tracy turned out to be a true Biker Woman (tm)
 RAS> (no longer affiliated with Harley Women(tm)). She was
 RAS> (understandably) angered by the numbers conflict, but she did graciously
 RAS> agree to not remove specific of my appendages if I simple left the state
 RAS> in the same manner that I arrived, at 150+.

Well, after your previous post, all one can say about you is all smoke and
no fire. Run away little college puke. No number for you, you timid little
shit. Lucky for you Tracy was so gracious, and the rest of the DoD left it
all in her able hands. Seeing as how we'd have removed your appendages very
slowly and painfully.

Oh, and thanks for the bullshit story, too.

Love them .edu posts. ;-)

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.