From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism
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Date: 14 Apr 92 13:56:09 GMT
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In article <peercy.703121147@dopey.crhc.uiuc.edu>, peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy) writes:
> I'd be interested in seeing references for these--especially the
> blacklisting and boycotting parts.  It seems to me that, in this day
> and age, blacklisting and boycotting would be used to _ensure_ employment
> fairness, rather than to thwart it. 

	Well not related to racism but a good example IMHO is the collusion of
the Major League Baseball owners a couple years ago to not hire free agents who
wanted X amount of money or more. 

> If blacklists and boycotts were ever
> effective at institutionizing the previous beliefs in racism, that is
> certainly argument to get the government out of the picture now and let
> societal engines institutionalize the current beliefs in civil equality.

	What about the way the capitalists used racism to keep workers from
organizing unions in the latter part of the 19th and early part of the 20th
centuries? The Irish immigrants of the North were FOR slavery and some went
south to fight for the Confederacy becuase free blacks would and did take 
their jobs 'cos they'd work for less. The capitalists had the workers hating
niggers, micks, jews, waps, pollacks, etc. becuase they hired either groups
they liked or the latest off the boat dying for their chunk of the gold paved
roads.
  
> As to the particular problem of differences in wages, certainly it is
> bad to have European-descended workers paid more than African-descended
> workers with the same qualifications and the same job.

	Racism keeps workers from uniting to fight for better pay or
conditions. The Coor's beer company up until they were unionized in the 80's
(that's 1980's) paid women and minorities LESS for the SAME work that the white
males were doing and in most cases tehy worked side by side! That seemed to
work out well for them 'cos the white males felt superior and the women and
minorities resented them for making more.
 
> So, left to its own devices, the free competition for labor will result
> in more blacks being hired.  This will result in a shorter supply of black
> unemployed and a greater supply of white unemployed.  Thus the price of the
> black worker rises and that of the white worker falls.

	That is until the white will work for less than the black then the
black will be out of a job until they will work for less than the white...If
you play it right it works well.

	It was the socialists who were pushing for equality of the races, sexes
and ethnic groups and it was the capitalists who were against it because it was
in their best interest. So after seeing racism in a free market like the ones 
around the turn of the century I don't think that it would be any better the
next time around.

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University Of Scranton	   |	for whatever reason, is not accomplished,
ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu	   |	reaction is the alternative.
ddc1@SCRANTON		   |				-Daniel De Leon
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