HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Latest news on the March.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 22:27:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.191522.6457@gw.wmich.edu> 92ali@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.185001.6455@gw.wmich.edu>, x90kamali1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>> In article <1992Nov19.200538.21330@sol.UVic.CA>, ahussain@engr.UVic.CA (Amyn  Hussain) writes:
>>> In article 10302@galileo.cc.rochester.edu, ousi_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Omer Usmani) writes:
>>>>
>>>> Benazir has been arrested and the march has been stopped. Hundreds of
>>>>police made roadblocks and stopped all incoming traffic to the Capital.
>>>>   Benazir and her entourage when they tried to run one of the blockades 
>>>>were attacked and latthi-charged. 
>>>>  I saw all of this on the NBC and ABC evening news. They said that many 
>>>>western embassies had requested her to stop the march calling it foolish
>>>>(this is an internal Paki matter what right have those idiots to interfere.)
>>>>  Anyway the lathi-charge was quite bad from what I saw, Benazir had her 
>>>>dupatta pulled off and then arrested. This is after she got into her 
>>>>Land Cruiser and (I assume) was trying to leave. The police promptly pulled
>>>>her out and arrested her.
>>>>  Personally I'm not her fan but really Nawaz should have shown more decency
>>>>and sensitivity especially as she was a woman.
>>>>
>>>>   THATS ALL FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Omer.........
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I agree that Nawaz should not have done that and I am not a fan of
>>> Nawaz either, but frankly speaking, it looks like the country is 
>>> running better in the hands of Nawaz in comparison to what Benazir did.
>>> Other than that I am sure that Nawaz had no idea that the police is going
>>> to pull Benazir out of her Jeep otherwise he would have told the police to
>>> leave her dupatta on her head and kindly requested to get herself arrested.
>>> NOT.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> It's obvious that army will be back in less than one year.
>> But I don't know, wheather that will be better for the country 
>> or not. Any comment on the current Pakistan situation.
>> 
>> 
>> 	--Shakir
>> 
>>Common Shakir....
>   Come backcome back in to the real world after all the army is your protector
>if india attacks pakitan who will defend...obviusly the army...so don't be
>perinoid regarding the army...Pray to ALLAH that what ever is beneficial to
>the country occurs...
>
>Dilshad 
>> 
>> 

utter rubbish,

the army has never been any good for the country. Responsible for two wars ...
...... The army blames the politicians for the mess the country is in but have
ruled pakistan longer than any politician. 
Our greta general Zia was great for the afghanis but worst thing that could
happen for pakistan. 
Lets us pray that democracy stays .........................

sahibzada rafay khan
From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: e-mail to lahore & Kamran's commission :-) - UUENCODE etc
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:13:03 GMT
Organization: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks

In <1992Nov23.094734.13740@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> cs707ab@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Aftab) writes:

>In article <1992Nov22.174218.475@panix.com> imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar) writes:
>>If you are comparing with fax then email is MUCH cheaper.  In addition it is
DELETED
>>has ASCII only limitations that have to be kept in mind.
>>

>Binary files can be transformed into ASCII ones (using uuencode, which I 
DE:LETED


>Kamran Aftab

Kamran,

Thanks for that post - I was just explaining that internet does have
inherent limitations, eg ACII (that can be covered with UUENCODE) but
also size of fmessage, etc.  Of course you can segment a file, but the idea
I want the suer to have is that it is not a siomple straight posting of
sending a file like sending  a note.  Also ,because data is charged by volume
uuencode etc add significantly to the volume because the uuencoded file is
bigger than the origibnal file

Of course that means more data and higher cost :-(

>(my commission Imran .... ;-) , if you get this account)

What about the money Ashar and I have spent in setting up the thing Kamran ;-)

Regards


Imran Anwar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ysm@engin.umich.edu (Yawar Shahzad Murad)
Subject: Re: "My" Previous Post
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:55:08 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov15.221558.9285@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Brian Willnecker) writes:
>
>Today, I received a phone call from one of my classmates that "I" had posted
>a letter stating "Death to Pakistan".  This was news to me, and I am
>writing my apology here for any offense that was taken.
>
>Yesterday, I was logged into a public access terminal with several sessions
>open at one time (using an IBM compatible and Windows).  Apparently, I
>forgot to close one of my communcations sessions, and, since the computers
>never get turned off, somebody obviously took advantage of an open account
>and abused it and my reputation.
>
>Once again, I extend my regrets, and apologize to anyone who was offended by
>the previous posting.  
>
>I hope that this is all that has been done with my account, and that this
>marks the end of any repurcussions.
>
>Most sincerely,
>Brian Willnecker
>wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
>
>-- 
>****************************************************************************
>* Brian Willnecker                   : "You can blow out a candle,         *
>* wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu    :  but you can't blow out a fire"  PG *
>****************************************************************************

<STUFF DELETED>

OK, understood and accepted. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid)
Subject: Re: Latest news on the March.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:51:35 GMT
Reply-To: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Civil Engineering

In article <1992Nov21.193036.26985@newton.ccs.tuns.ca>, jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov21.010419.2519@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> amr7969@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov19.185001.6455@gw.wmich.edu>, x90kamali1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
|> >> In article <1992Nov19.200538.21330@sol.UVic.CA>, ahussain@engr.UVic.CA (Amyn  Hussain) writes:
|> >>> In article 10302@galileo.cc.rochester.edu, ousi_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Omer Usmani) writes:
|> >>>>
                       stuff deleted 

|> >  with all other so called political leaders,jamaties and the
|> >racial leaders. This might sound cruel, but its better for the safety
|> >and prosperity of our dear country.......
|> >                                            Aamir...
|> 
|> And which country would that be???

Please give reply to Nadeem.  There is lot of insight in his
question.  First guess, CHO CHO KE MALYANN, no that doesn't 
sound right, lets give another try: Pakistan.  Fairly close
isn't it.
*********************************************************************

SOHBAN SHAHID                
Civil Engg. Dept.                (303) 491 7710/8204 (work)
Colorado State University        (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523

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From: ahmedss@ntmtv.UUCP (Syed Ahmed)
Subject: Re: PakistaNews GIF File:Editorial Cartoon Graphic File 1119
Reply-To: ahmedss@ntmtv.UUCP (Syed Ahmed)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:55:00 GMT


I use a Sun and so asked my System Administrator just a minute
back.
He says that you need to be Running X to view GIF files, and also
that there is a public domain utility 'pbm' that would let you view
these files on a sun.
I cant find pbm , and so am hoping that there is some one out
there who can help.

Syed Ahmed.
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: Jamali
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:40:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

I seem to have caused some confusion, though quite unintentionally. Zafarullah
Khan is not my father's or mother's brother. He is a very close friend. I didn't
realize it till I started getting e-mails asking whether I know such and such 
Jamali from Aitcheson (sp). Despite the fact that I know these guys, I guess a 
clarification is needed. Probably I'll warn him too to be careful in referring
to me as his nephew :) BTW, Taj Mohammad Khan is also my uncle :) :)

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527
From: aftab@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Aftab Ahmad;MU-SPIN/CESDIS)
Subject: Re: For God Sake Stop Ahmediyya Religion War...
Keywords: Hydrocarbons....
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:36:58 GMT

mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:

>In article <1egd39INNia7@coral.bucknell.edu>, zabdi@bucknell.edu (Zakir Abdi) writes...
>>	Dear Pakistani brother and (sherfoo's sisters),
>> 
>>	Please stop that religion war.  We have a lot of other stuff to discuss.
>>	For God sake STOP THAT BULLSHIT ON SCP.
>> 
>>	Khuda Hafiz
>> 
>>	Zakir Abdi [Freedom of expression...] 
>> 
>	Oh no please dont stop it let the fun continue...
>	

	I second your opinion. Isn't it better than killing. At least
some people get some idea why things are the way they are! Yea. Imagine
what would happen if the Internet authorities were fundamentalist religious.
>Mirza Ilyas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: karnik@pico.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: The Myth of Muslim 'Fundamentalism'.
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:00:05 GMT

In <1992Nov19.185618.12733@tamsun.tamu.edu> gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:

>>                   The 'Myth' of Muslim Fundamentalism
>>                   -----------------------------------
>>Zafar.

>The word "fundamentalist" is no longer used in the same sense that 
>Webster dictionary defines it to be. It has come to be used in 
>a negative sense to define anyone who has a militant character 
>purely on the basis of his/her beliefs. If all that one does is 
>to follow his/her religion, then that person is termed "religious"
>or "pious" or "devout" or something like that. It is only when 
>they behave negatively towards anyone not practising their beliefs
>that the word "fundamentalist" is used. So all muslims are not
>fundamentalists. 

	I agree. Also, just FYI, here's the Webster thesaurus entry for
'fundamentalist':

*********

fundamentalist  n
   syn    DIEHARD 1, bitter-ender, conservative, old liner, right, rightist, 
right-winger, standpat, standpatter, tory

*********

	Perhaps this gives a better idea of how the term is commonly used
nowadays.(better as compared to the dictionary definition).


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: God help pakistan
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:19:09 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <8f3gaMO00WBM84XH59@andrew.cmu.edu> Asad Iqbal <ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Several questions:
>> 
>>1)  Do you believe Pakistan would be better served with a democratic form
>>of government?
>Yes, of course
>
>> 
>>2)  If so, then considering the fact that Mrs. Bhutto is the only Pakistanii
>>leader ever to be democratically elected, wouldn't you agree that she more
>>than anyone else should lead the pro democracy forces?
>Nope...Ms. Bhutto isn't the only one. Mr. Sharif and Mr. Junejo are
>there too, so the best of them or any other person capable of leading
>Pakistan should and I think Ms. Bhutto playing the politics af agitation
>is not the right person. Her strategy now doesn't show that she is
>mature enough to run a country
>
>> 
>>3)  If you agree with question 1 but not question 2, then who else should lead
>>Pakistan to democracy and why?
>I answered above
>> 
>>4)  You obviously disagree with Mrs. Bhutto's tactics against the current
>>government.  What other tatics would you suggest she use? 
>She must have heard of a no-confidence move or negotiation
>Otherwise I really cant suggest much I'm not a politician but certainly
>not what she did
>
>Asad
>

Nonsense...

How can she win a no-confidence motion in a parliament elected as a result
of rigged elections???

Aren't we forgetting what happenned in 1990.... The incumbent Prime Minister
was removed. The leader of the opposition was made the caretaker Prime Minister
and given the responsibility to hold fair-and-free elections... Has anyone
heard of something so ridiculous before... 

How can any sane person expect fair and free elections after this... 

Nadeem
-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: The Myth of Muslim 'Fundamentalism'.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:56:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.164711.15266@usl.edu> zxs6373@usl.edu (Siddiqui Zafar) writes:
>
>                   The 'Myth' of Muslim Fundamentalism
>                   -----------------------------------
>
>It is clear from the above definition that the 'fundamentalists' are those
>Christians whose religious beliefs are considered to be fundamental to 
>Christian faith and morals and who want to follow everything in the Bible.
>
>Although the 'word' has gained more currency in the context of recent Islamic
>resurgence in Iran, its genesis can be traced back to the Middle Ages in 
>....
>There is no fundamentalist or non-fundamentalist Muslim. A Muslim is an Muslim
>out and out. He is ordained to abide by all-pervasive and clearcut Quranic
>injunctions and the Prophetic Traditions in all walks of his life through
>and through.
>
>Zafar.

The word "fundamentalist" is no longer used in the same sense that 
Webster dictionary defines it to be. It has come to be used in 
a negative sense to define anyone who has a militant character 
purely on the basis of his/her beliefs. If all that one does is 
to follow his/her religion, then that person is termed "religious"
or "pious" or "devout" or something like that. It is only when 
they behave negatively towards anyone not practising their beliefs
that the word "fundamentalist" is used. So all muslims are not
fundamentalists. 

However, from experience, one knows that anyone who harps too 
much upon the TRUTHness of ones belief is more likely to be 
violent than one who does not. In this sense, the record of the 
muslims community has not been very exemplary (mainly because the 
tolerant section of the muslim community, no matter how large, 
has not been able to make its presence known to the non-muslim 
world) and that is perhaps the reason why the first knee-jerk 
reaction of the non-muslims  towards any muslim is to see them 
as fundamentalists. 

regards,
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahme0002@student.tc.umn.edu (Wajihuddin Ahmed)
Subject: Test
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:12:03 GMT

This is test.


-- 
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| Wajihuddin Ahmed | ahmed002@staff.tc.umn.edu        /   \   /   \        |
|    EE  '93       | ahme0002@student.tc.umn.edu     /  /\ \ / /\  \       |
From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Human Behavior
Date: 16 Nov 1992 06:12:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: easy.ces.cwru.edu



	Human Behavior
	--------------

	Why do women rub their eyes when they get
        out of bed in the morning?

	Because they do not have balls to scratch.




Mansoor Khan
Cleveland Heights, Ohio

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: x91abdullah1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: GOD SAVE PAKISTAN FROM BHUTTO FAMILY!!!
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:24:29 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University


Dear Brothers,

      I felt very bad when I saw Report on CNN covering protest of Opposition 
under the Leader ship of Benazir. Some American student were laughing on 
the report shown by CNN.I think all blame goes to Buhtto famliy not PPP 
becuse every person of Buhtto family ,not only crupt but they always actively
 involve in destroying pakistan and its integratiy.Her father divided Pakistan
 in two part,Her brother is well known terrorist always active in destroying
Pakistan's Interest all over the world,and she siting in pakistan trying
to complete her father's  and brother's plans (which I hope will end in
distruction of Buhtto family not Pakistan Inshallah).
       I hope God will save Pakistan from shadow of Buhtto famliy.      

Thanks,

Zubair
From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Is Benazir Muslim ? No Way !!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:48:33 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <1992Nov23.113122.6546@gw.wmich.edu> 92ali@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.012558.37866@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>> In article <cf3zdWu00WBO434bho@andrew.cmu.edu> ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Asad Iqbal) writes:
>>>Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.pakistan: 22-Nov-92 Is Benazir Muslim
>>>?  No Way.. by MUSTAFA IBRAHIM @slate.m 
>>>>  
>>>>        I remember, when I was in Pakistan, I saw a statement 
>>>>         from that time Prime Minister of Pakistan , the 
>>>> champion of democracy , benazir bhutto . She said , " I dont
>>>> believe that the witness of a man is equal to the witness of 
>>>> two women. This is Grabage."
>>>>  
>>>> So if she doesnot believe in Quran , how come is she muslim ?
>>>> No way. If somebody believes it, then he/she lives in fools
>>>> paradise. 
>>>>  
>>>> What you guys think ?
>>>That's a very sensitive issue.
>>>I'm sure a lot opf people on the net would tend to agree with her
>>>atleast I do and I believe not everything that worked 1400 years ago can
>>>work in these times. Whatever the case I would not call her a non-muslim
>>>just for that...there's alot of stuff we do that is worse but we still
>>>go pray every Friday afternoon.
>>>
>>>Asad
>> 
>>  Nonsense buddy if things 1400 years ago cannot work today then
>> why dont you change the Quran ? Bring a new Quran according 
>> to this new age , modernazed version !!
>> 
>> Then your friday afternoon prayer return to you .
>> You should also change this firday afternoon prayer since it is 
>> 1400 year old. Add some pop music or if you like add some 
>> disco dance in the Friday prayer !!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      You played an execellent shot and you actually hit a six outside the 
>      stadium......keep up the good performance....well played...
>
>Ahmed
>
>
>Well Mustafa...

Thanks for appreciation
From: aa2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Abid Aziz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: STOP POSTING TRASH
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:43:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gf24t4K00iV409fmhC
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Please, to everyone who posts junk on the bboard, STOP!!!
How about some interesting news about current events in Pakistan?
If anyone knows anything new and interesting about Pakistani politics or
just anything, please post it.
Let's get civilized and stop embarassing our nation, people, and culture.

THANKS,
ABID AZIZ @Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: test
From: <DD8BB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 15:22:03 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER TEST FROM A NEW USER, SO READ IT CAREFULLY AND LET ME KNOW
IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES.

IF UET 84_ ELECTRICAL RINGS A BELL IN YOUR MIND, ITS ME.

KHURRAM RAHIM
BARUCH COLLEGE
From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: This is Racism: A Joke related to the current hot topic on S.C.P
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:21:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: king.ces.cwru.edu



This is a joke. Due to its sensitive contents, I want to make sure
that every one knows that. 


		This is racism
		--------------

	A Chinese man walks into a bar in a black neighborhood and says to the
black bartender, "How about a jigger, nigger?" The bartender
is outraged and starts to lecture the Chinese about the evils of racism and how since he himself is a member of a minority he should know better. Finally, 
the black suggests that  they change places and see how it feels.
	The chinese and the black change places. The black leaves the bar and
then returns walking up to the bar exactly as the chinese  did.
	"How about a drink, Chink?"
	The Chinese says, "Sorry, we don't serve niggers."


P.S.  From Outrageously Offensive Jokes 1984.


Mansoor A. Khan
Cleveland
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh