From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Name of Palestinian Deportees (part i)
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:01:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <Bzxnpq.Crq@newsflash.concordia.ca>, ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira) writes:
> In article <1992Dec26.212407.121@vms.huji.ac.il> backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
>>>     A medical doctor and a president of the medical circle in
>>>     the Islamic university at Gaza.
>>
>>As a doctor, *I'm* appalled that there could be doctors who belong to Hamas
>>which as an organization has sworn itself to kill Jewish civilians, men, women
>>and children.
>
> Sorry but there are also doctors in the JDL, Temple faithful, and many other
> Jewish extremist organizations who advocate killing all Arabs or expelling
> them.

Please name me ONE doctor in the JDL or Temple Faithful (NE'EMANEI HAR HABAYIT)
who advocate killing Arabs  and I'll *personally* see that they get booted out
immediately and unconditionally from the Israeli Medical Association.


> Your list also includes RABBIS (one of them killed an innocent  Arab
> merchant and only spent few months in jail before getting out on the
> shoulders of cheering Israelis).



I think you got your attributions wrong. I didn't mention rabbis at all. Hamza
listed a number of doctors and I simply listed a number of German war criminals
(some of them executed by American and British military tribunals in the
Doctors Trial of 1948) who were physicians. This was to stress that just
because someone has an M.D.  doesn't make him a saint.


> Does that make you appalled? Do you support
> the deportation of the temple faithful, and the Kahane Jr. group? I doubt
> it, since killing Jews is a much bigger atrocity than killing "Arabs who
> are animals, grasshoppers, roaches, terrorists, subhuman" after all they
> enjoy every murder including theirs.

Why are you attributing this to me ?  Looking for a lawsuit ?

>>
>>Haven't you ever read of the medical "experiments" carried out by German
>>physicians in Nazi concentration camps ? Doctors like: Dr. Karl Brandt, Dr.
>
> ... Yeah, the Palestinians are now compared to the RULING NAZIS. Of course,
> they are the Goliath that is threatening the little Israeli David.
> Excuse the sarcasm, but I can't help it.. It is plain ridiculous, especially
> After the complaints posted lately against any comparison with the Nazis.

Again, my list of German war criminals with an M.D. was posted to stress that
having an M.D. (or a law degree) does not necessarily indicate the character of
the person.


>
>>
>>
>>So just because these members of Hamas happen to have an M.D. doesn't indicate
>>what type of human beings they are.
>>
>
> O.K, Now to the real issues:
> 1)Prove that the 415 Palestinians are members of Hamess
> 2)Prove that they were involved in the killing of innocents,
> 3)Prove that the kidnapping is supported by all members of Hamess
> 4)prove that all of them live in a territory that is recognized
> internationally as part of Israel.
>
> Unless you prove all of the above (in a fair trial of course), you have no
> right to defend the deportations.
> As you finish celebrating Hannukah, I think you should appreciate that
> the Palestinians are waiting for the day they will celebrate their own
> Hannukah. When you celebrate freedom from oppression, maybe you should
> consider the others' right of freedom from oppression.

Sorry to disappoint you but NO ONE wants peace here more than I do. I support
an independent Palestinian state in Jordan to be governed by Yassir Arafat. If
only you knew about the peace feelers between the highest echelons of the
Israeli government and the P.L.O. in August 1981, you'd hang your head in
shame. Too bad someone in Romanian intelligence tipped off a CIA contact (who
tipped off someone in Israel) about the *real* nature of the Abu Nidal
terrorist group. You figure that one out !



Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL