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From: Robert Drongowski <Robert.Drongowski@cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Panfish? (Was: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 13:43:29 EDT
Organization: Pediatric Surgery, U of Michigan
     <1992Aug19.151316.6559@newross.Princeton.EDU>
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In article <1992Aug18.180641.28240@uvm.edu> John Connors,
jmc@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP writes:
>Why are they called panfish?  I have never met anyone who even heard

They are called Panfish because they taste best when fried in a PAN.
Dip in Milk/Egg mixture, roll in flour, breadcrumbs etc. and fry both
sides in HOT oil.  After cooking try dipping in Shrimp Sauce (Ketchup +
Horseradish) or Tartar Sauec (Mayo + Relish).
The easiest manner in which to clean is to use a flexible, extremely
sharp filet knife and filet them.  No skins, no bones, fun to catch and
excellent to eat.
From: u8339105@cs.uow.edu.au (Karl Anthony Docherty)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Calling Brits and Europeans
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:08:23 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

mapd1@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nigel Ling) writes:
Hi Nigel

No bass or crappies here either.NSW fisho's chase everything from Australian
to Tailor ( Bluefish?? i think to our friends US based ) and Yellowfin Tuna.
What do you fish for.

Karl
happiness is a rod in your hand...


>Hi to everybody

>Now that the fishing group has wider distribution are there any British
>and European anglers there? I only ever saw a couple of posts from
>Europeans on alt.fishing, and none from Brits. No bass or crappies this
>side of the water so I hope to talk about fishing nearer to home.

>Nigel
From: kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Bluegill, Sunnies, Pumkinseeds, etc.
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:13:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci

In article <1992Aug20.145928.26753@ncsu.edu> plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
>In article <Aug19.213800.28756@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick) writes:
>|> 
>|> which I think is generic for panfish, but is mostly the redear and 
>|> shellcrackers.
>
>Now I'm going to have to get my Peterson's out this evening, I thought 
>that shellcrackers were redear sunfish!

I think you are right -- the other Pat
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From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: Surf Rod Casting Distance?
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:19:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.201039.6758@seas.gwu.edu> ajg@seas.gwu.edu (Alan Goldschen) writes:
>Fishers:
>
>I just came back from a fantastic trip at the Outer Banks, North Carolina.
>My wife (a very serious FisherPerson) and I caught a variety of fish:
>Blues, Spanish Mackeral, Flounder, Spot, Croaker, Trigger Fish, Blow Fish
>(Butterfly), Sand Shark, Cobia, and Lizard Fish.
>
>I have a question about getting the maximum casting distance with a surf
>rod.  We used a 9' heavy action rod, 8' light action rod and 8' medium
>action rod.  I noticed that I was able to cast farther with the 9' heavy
>action rod.  In fact, I caught the Blues and Spanish Mackerel only with
>that rod.  No luck on the 8' rods.
>
>My wife could not get any rod out there to catch a mackeral or blues.  The
>question I have, and I need to keep my wife happy if I want to go back
>again, is what type of rod should I get her?  Some locals said that I
>should get a 10' or 11' medium action rod.
>
>Any advice would be appreciated, especially by my wife.  She doesn't care
>if the string breaks, she just wants to try and grab a fish!  In fact, once
>a fish bit the lure, I would let my wife reel the fish in.
>
>Thanks,
>
>------------------------------------------------------------- 
>Alan Goldschen                       e-mail: ajg@seas.gwu.edu
>Department of EE and CS              Graudate Student
>George Washington University
>801 22nd Street N.W.
>Washington, D.C. 20052
>
>

Assuming that your wife is most interested in beach fishing, a 10 or
11 foot stick should be fine. As far as lond distance casting is
concerned, you'll gain most distance by modifying your casting
technique rather than lengthening the rod. The so-called "pendulum"
technique supposedly is used by champion long-distance casters to win
the casting competitions. I've seen articles on it, and have tried a
modified version of it and have gotten more distance out of it than
via conventional methods.

BTW, there are a lot of places along the coast where it is better to
fish closer to shore rather than farther out, particularly for
stripers and blues at night, since that's where the bait is. I've
never been to NC's outer banks, but guess that it's flat beach with
surf and you need to get out beyond the first breakers. Don't ignore
any cuts or troughs closer to shore though...



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From: behrooz@cps.msu.edu ()
Subject: Not so hungry fish
Originator: behrooz@indian.cps.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:49:46 GMT


Hi all,
  Last weekend I went to White Lake area (North of Muskegan in Michigan)
  The channel connecting the White Lake to Lake Michigan was full of
  fish. We could see fish as big as 3 feet in the channel and in shallow
  waters on the beach.  But it seemed they were not hungry at all, We
  tried all kinds of bait, (live and plastic) with no luck.  We could
  even have the bait touch the fish, but the fish would turn back and go
  the other way.  There were other people on the channel as well, trying
  to fish with little luck.  We tried fishing from 9am till 3:30 with
  absolutely no luck.

  Now the question for all you experienced anglers:  What do you think
  was wrong?  Was it the season? time of day? the baits? maybe I
  should've gone swiming instead.

yours,
  Roozbeh
From: chrisi@spock.usc.edu (Chris Irwin)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: California -- Big Bear Lake Fishing
Date: 19 Aug 1992 22:45:56 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.usc.edu


I will be in Big Bear this weekend and thought I might try to get a
little fishing in.  Problem is that I have never really heard of
anyone having much luck up there (too damn touristy, I imagine).  Can
anyone recommend any good spots in the region?  What (if any) fish are
in Big Bear Lake and what is the best method for catching them
(spinners, bait, etc)?

Thanks in advance!

Chris


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From: brown@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Pat R. Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Landing fish
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:32:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpspkla.40300002
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.

The fish will probably not die. The hook will rust in a short time or as 
has been suggested it may soon fall out. You are to be commended for not 
killing this fish. 

I second the use of barbless hooks (dont need to buy barbless, just mash
down the barbs) 

The other thing I commend you for is leaving the fish in the water! Fish, 
especially larger ones are not designed to be out of the water. It bothers
me a lot to see the fisherpersons on TV practicing catch and release by 
grabing the fish, wrenching out the hook and then chucking the fish back
in the water like a big rock..... argh

Pat Brown  in Greenacres WA
From: jbcst+@pitt.edu (John B. Coxey)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Skunked!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:58:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Bt79Dx.9u9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> zinzow@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark S. Zinzow) writes:
>parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>>For two days in a row I have fished "my" creek, and been skunked.
>>Loads of fish in there, jumping all over the place, and I could
>>even *see* then a lot of the time.
>
>>The fish would follow my spinner or spoon, but never close to
>>within about six inches, it was infuriating to watch them do
>>this.
>
>Once I was fishing for trout with corn and watched a school of them
>swimming around just looking it my corn for a long while.  Finally,
>I got bored and decided to just throw in all the corn I had to feed
>them.  I took a handful from the can I had and tossed it in and they
>went into a freeding frenzy gobbling every last bit.  Gee, this looks
>promissing I thought, and put some corn back on my hook, dropped it in
>and then tossed in another handful of corn and had one instantly.
>
>This works so well, it's hardly sporting.  Might as well just throw
>a net over the school.

------

   Speaking about fishing with corn:

       Try 2 or 3 kernals on a size-10 hook (barbs flattened out or
pinched off), on a 7x-tippet with 2-split shot (the ultra small ones)
and a strike indicator.  Again, not very sporting, but it will convinve
you that the trout are there.

      I saw someone doing this on Spring Creek (Centre County, PA.)
and so I borrowed some of his corn and just slipped the corn over a
wet ant I was fishing and musta had a trout with every cast.  It
eventually got boring so I just tossed in the rest of the corn and
watched the stream com "alive" with trout.  BTW/ This is a C/R stream
which is why the trout population is so high this time of year,  being
a limestone (coldwater) stream doesn't hurt either.

-------

BTW/ Anyone going to be up in the PSU area this weekend?  I am heading
on home to Altoona,PA. and plan on hitting up Spring Creek and Elk
Creek (at Millheim,PA).  Would be nice to go fly-fishing with someone,
gets kinda boring going by one's self.  Also, I'm going to leave
the corn at home.

Well let me know.

John Coxey
(Sir-Johnny)

jbcst@unix.cis.pitt.edu
From: bart@druwa.ATT.COM (BartholomewR)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:13:49 GMT
Distribution: rec

in article <92231.020949L89@psuvm.psu.edu>, L89@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark J. Laufersweiler) says:
> 
> In article <Bt5JEC.HGz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, zinzow@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark S.
> Zinzow) says:
>>
>>Lately, I've been noticing that bluegill really love cheese.
>>I like it too as a local cheese factory will sell moldy cheese for
>>$0.20/lb.  It's fun to just feed it to fish, but when I put it on
>>a hook to try and catch them, it usually falls off when they strike,

Try softly molding the cheese the the hook, touching as little as possible
and smoothing all cracks in the cheese. Dip the cheese in the water. Hold
out of the water for a few seconds. Then softly "lob" the cheese. Oh yea,
keep the cheese cool. I have tried this with about every kind of cheese,
except moldy cheese (this should not be different), with great success.




bart
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From: cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd)
Subject: re : rod cases
Originator: cloyd_j@face_plant
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:17:00 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA

    PVC ! I use a 3" ID section of PVC, it's almost indestructable.
My only complaint, being a fly fisherman, was the lack of snob appeal,
so on the side I wrote "My Other Rod Case Is Rosewood". I feel much
better about it now. One thing you may want to do is get some blaze
orange spray paint and paint the tube. I've had 2 lost in airports
so far (in Puerto Rico & Mexico) that were eventually found, but would
have been found sooner if they were dayglo. One, for example, fell off
a luggage transport and was laying on the floor near some pipes, where
it blended right in.

                                        jc in Me.
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From: shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard)
Subject: Re: Surf Rod Casting Distance?
Reply-To: shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:29:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.023641.2478@intelhf.hf.intel.com>, labelle@intelhf.hf.intel.com (George La Belle) writes:
|> ajg@seas.gwu.edu (Alan Goldschen) writes:
|> 
|> 	The tricks in long distance casting are; 1) large open face reel
|> 	with low drag. 2) light line with a heavy "shock leader" 3) Long
|> 	rod 4) ideal weight for the "action" of the rod and 5) the right
|> 	casting motion. The best rod/reel combo I know of is the Alvey made
|> 	in Australia. They make a 6" open face reel that looks like a fly
|> 	reel - you turn it 90' to cast.  ...
|> 
Doesn't that cause the line to twist real bad?  It twists going out, but then 
comes in without untwisting.  Should cast great the first time but after
5 or 6 100+ yard casts, I'd think you'd have a "birds nest".  Or can the
real be alternated (+90 degrees/-90 degrees) to reduce the problem?  Or am
I missing something?


|> 		George

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From: tomg@hpcvxph (Thomas J. Gilg)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:23:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Aug17.182348.5575
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
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> The tube is short enough to bring as carry-on luggage.

An aside - if you are forced to check-in your rods during air travel,
you might consider wrapping or placing the rods (w/ PVC tube) inside
something less obvious.   Evidently many rod cases *disappear* in
luggage handling, especially on internatioanl flights.  :-(

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com
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From: ajg@seas.gwu.edu (Alan Goldschen)
Subject: Surf Fishing in NJ?
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:52:28 GMT

Hello FisherPeople:

I have a question that seems appropriate for this newsgroup.  I am going to
be visiting (non-fishing relatives) in Southern/Middle part of New Jersey
at the end of the month.  (The town is Freehold.)  What spots along the
shore of New Jersey would one recommend for surf fishing?  (I was the one
who asked the question about surf rod casting distance for my wife.  She is
the one who wants to go fishing in New Jersey).  We are always looking for
a new spot.

Of course, don't give us your favorite spot -- just a one for vacationers!

Thanks (hope the '92 fishing summer was good for all!)

-------------------------------------------------------------
Alan Goldschen                       e-mail: ajg@seas.gwu.edu
Department of EE and CS              Graduate Student
George Washington University
801 22nd Street N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20052
From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: re : rod cases
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:24:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:

>I had the biggest Plane rod case as well and it didn't survive
>the first trip. I think I'll stick with the white PVC. I can't
>imagine an Orvis aluminum tube standing up to a Winnibago being
>driven over it (which one guy said he did to test his
>newly-constructed PVC rod case).
>
>Jim

parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:

>That was me, it was only a toyota land cruiser (but a 72, which
>is a real tank;-))

>The pvc is bulletproof all right, though I used the black stuff
>(abs) in 5" diameter.


Sorry Charles. Actually, it was someone else. I've had several
people email me directly.

re: the black PVC pipe, another guy who emailed me said use the
white pipe; the black stuff apparently melts at a lower
temperature. I don't know if its true but it sounded OK to me.

Jim
From: gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: A Big Cat Tale [WAS: First Muskie]
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:08:14 GMT
Reply-To: gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt)
Organization: CCCS -- UofMinnesota


In article <1992Aug21.152322.15891@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt) writes:
>
>Last weekend while fishing the St. Croix river I tied into my first
>muskie.  The St Croix forms part of the Wisconsin, Minnesota border; it
... As I paddled upstream I
>trailed my favorite silver Rapala 6" minnow but the river was generally
>too shallow... 

The muskie was pretty exciting but it was time for breakfast so I
drifted on downstream and came upon a guy standing in the back of a
canoe with a rod and a tight line.  
"Whatcha got?", 
"Don't know but it's big", 
"I just hit a muskie maybe you got one too",  
"Don't know, it's big, and I got it on 4 lb line on an ultrlight"  

So he worked the fish carefully while his wife controlled the boat and
they said "Wow it's 3 feet long!"  and then "It's a catfish! A huge
<bleep>ing catfish".  He didn't have a net either, so I pulled along
side to look and lend a hand.  The cat wore down and worked up to the
boats.  On the 2nd or 3rd attempt I got a hand in its gill cover and out
of the water into the hands of the proud fisherman.  Photos were taken
and the fish released.

We guessed it was 20+ pounds so we called it a 30 -- forgot to measure
it on the C&R ruler taped to my gunwhale.  The neat thing was he caught
it on a small crayfish (coppery colored) Fat Rap which he was trolling
in water no more than 3 feet deep!  [Cats this size are usually caught
at night by large bearded fellows in overalls using stink baits or cut
shiners]

== I do not work for Normark--Rapala ==
[[   But I sure like their lures !   ]]
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From: jmd@cs.Princeton.EDU ()
Subject: fishing near princeton
Originator: jmd@dynamic
Organization: Princeton University CS Department, Princeton NJ
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:59:12 GMT


Anybody else fish in and near Princeton?
I have fished in the canal, in lake carnegie and in stony brook
near 206, varying between bait, lures and flies. I'd love to
discuss Princeton fishing with anybody else in the area.

Right now I  know zero other local fishermen.

Anybody out there?

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From: kevins@mcnc.org (Kevin Siefering)
Subject: Crappie in small ponds
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:02:42 GMT

    It was suggested by another post that crappie can never grow large
exept in a large lake.  I dissagree heartily.  I used to fish a lot
of farm ponds in Iowa.  I knew of three ponds which regularly gave up
crappie of 1-2 pounds, which is quite large in Iowa.  My fishing buddy
caught 5 which had a combined weight of almost 12 pounds from one of
these ponds.  This pond was less than one acre, but has extremely steep
banks and is deep for a farm pond (likely around 25').  It also had
healthy populations of large bluegill and a lot of small bass (mostly
less than 1 pound).  It was home to a beaver family that regularly
dropped trees in the water, keeping cover plentiful.  The water was
also quite clear.   

    The main problem with large populations of very small panfish is
that they eat the bass eggs and fry and eat all the food which very 
young bass need.  It certainly doesn't hurt anything to remove the
small panfish, but you will have to remove a ton of them to do much
good.  

    
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From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:22:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


Excuse me, but by "guide" do you mean the person you've already
paid money to to take you fishing or the person HIRED by the
person you've already paid money to to take you fishing?

I can see tipping the latter but not the former. Of course, I'm
Canadian and we've notoriously bad tippers anyway...

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From: C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz (C.K. Black)
Subject: Re: Skunked!!
Summary: hard fishing
Keywords: summer dog days
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 00:15:11 GMT

Gi'day R.O.Fishers......

   Charles Parr writes about being skunked by trout (?) when...
>Here are the conditions: It is quite hot these days, and the
>water level is down a bit. The water is also warming up somewhat.
>It hasn't rained much/at all in the area.

Well, well,  we have the same problem downunder in summer, our 
answers as follows;
1) Fish earlier and later.  Go for them when it is cooler and they
are more likely to be on the feed,  say a 5 am. start (before the
SO even knows you're gone 8^). ) and quit about 9 am.  Then a serious
man is back after them after dark,  hoping for a hatch and dryfly
action.  
2) Lighter line (2-3 lbs.),  longer trace if flyfishing,  bubble
further back if spinning,  smaller spinners and smaller nymphs (14-18)
3) When the law and conscience allows, live bug bait;  whatever flew
into the porch light last night is likely to be what the trout are
having for breakfast.  Include landbased hoppers, crickets, etc. to
complete the menu.  

Best of luck,  wish it was summer down here !!  Cheers...... 
-- 
Conrad Black 

Email... C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz
Snail... Massey U., Plant Sc. Dept., Palmerston North, New Zealand
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