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From: rap@fnbc.com
Subject: Opinions on Bonneville Market Information Service
Keywords: data,Bonneville
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:30:48 GMT

Anyone have opinions (e.g., reliability, stability, etc.) on the  
Bonneville Market Information Service.   I am looking at using them  
for delayed futures quotes.

e-mail responses to rap@fnbc.com

thanks.


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From: chedley@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Chedley A. Aouriri)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: US vs Foreign stock markets
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:51:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6695

>|> 
>|> Has the US market already discounted the recovery?   Is it time to
>|> move into Europe?  Or even Japan?  
>|> 
>
For 1993,
the prospect for the US stock market is definitely flat, to say the least!!
Same with Europe and Japan which are still in recession.
The most promising foreign stock markets are some carefully selected
markets in the third world. For example, Mexico, Argentina, and South-East
Asia (excluding Japan), India...
There are a few no-load mutual funds that invest in these countries.

Of course, you want to keep an eye on the $ exchange rate when you
invest in foreign stocks.
 
.CHEDLEY..  chedley@cs.pdx.edu
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Standard Disclaim: The above statements and opinions are strictly mine,
and do not represent any organization's position.
From: gbrooksh@comanche.ess.harris.com (Greg Brookshire)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: OutBack SteakHouse (OSSI)
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:25:28 GMT
Reply-To: gbrooksh@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

The three Outback Steakhouse restaurants that I know of (melbourne, FL,
atlanta, and northern VA) are packed all of the time!  I understand that
the institutions are already heavily invested in this stock.  Does this
mean that it is too late to get in, or should that not be a concern?

Comments?


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Greg Brookshire                                                   407-729-2464
gbrooksh@su100l.ess.harris.com
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Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: tony2@prefect.cc.bellcore.com (gozdz,antoni s)
Subject: Re: High-load Funds (was Re: Mutual Funds???)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 21:39:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.194802.23638@panix.com> paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
>
> And what about the Fidelity Select funds? The aren't exactly high-load, but
>they do charge 3% to get in. Are there equivelent funds that cover similar
>sectors that are no-load (such as Vanguard)?
>
>
>-- 
>*******************************************************************
>paul@panix.com                                    COMPULITE GRAPHICS
>Brooklyn NY usa                                Design & Consultation
>********************************************************************


INVESCO - Finacial Funds has quite a few no-load,
low-minimum ($250), low-management fee funds which are
similar to Fidelity's Selects. Some of them are (have
been) doing quite well: Health Sciences till 1992,
Strat. Financial Services and Strat. Technology now.
Here you go:

          FinProg  Family Ranked from 01/03/89 to 12/31/91 (A)
                               and from 1/3/92 to 12/28/92 (B)
 No Symbl          Fund Name              A %    B %  st.dev.
--- ----- ------------------------------- ----  ----  ----
  1 FHLSX FinProg Strategic Health Sci.  287.8 -16.4   6.8
  2 FTCHX FinProg Strategic Technology   135.8  16.3   7.4
  3 FSFSX FinProg Strategic Finan. Serv. 122.8  25.2   5.9
  4 FIIIX FinProg Industrial Income       96.2   0.5   3.9
  5 FIDYX FinProg Dynamics                92.1  11.4   6.1
  6 FLISX FinProg Strategic Leisure       88.8  21.7   5.7
  7 FLRFX FinProg Industrial              85.8   2.5   4.8
  8 FSEQX FinProg Equity                  61.0   4.9   2.9
  9 FSTUX FinProg Strategic Utilities     52.5  10.6   3.2
 10 FSFLX FinProg Flex Fund               45.7   9.8   2.0
 11 FBDGX FinProg US Government           39.7   5.7   1.9
 12 FTIFX FinProg Financial Tax-Free Inc  34.8   8.0   1.8
 13 FBDSX FinProg Select Income           34.6  10.2   1.1
 14 FIGBX FinProg Intermediate-Term Gov   34.6   5.9   1.1
 15 FEURX FinProg Strategic European      33.4  -7.4   4.0
 16 FHYPX FinProg High Yield Portfolio    22.3  14.5   1.7
 17 FSTEX FinProg Strategic Energy        16.2 -14.5   4.9
 18 FSIGX FinProg Internat'l Growth       16.1 -12.1   3.0
 19 FFRXX FinProg Tax-Free Money Market   15.6   2.2   0.2
 20 FSEVX FinProg Strategic-Environment    8.9 -19.0  -N/A-
 21 FPBSX FinProg Strategic Pacific Bas.   1.9 -13.3   6.2
 22 FIEGX FinProg Emerging Growth          0.0  10.0  -N/A-
 23 FGLDX FinProg Strategic Gold         -13.7 -10.3   6.5


Tony
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
Subject: Re: 401K--to rollover or not?
Originator: acheng@shalom.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:33:09 GMT


In article <1993Jan3.233919.840@ncsa.uiuc.edu> acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng) writes:
>A digress--what are the benefits of rolling an old 401K to a new 401K
>when the money can be left in an IRA?  One has more investment options
>for IRA's and can withdraw the money with 10% penalty and income tax.
>401K won't allow distribution even if you are willing to pay penalty
>(right?) I doubt the new employer would match anything for the rollover
>amount.  So, why put the money into a more restrictive account?

Many of your have responded to my above question.  One private
email has mentioned that 401K could be "judgement proof" while IRA's
may not be.  Judgement proof means it cannot be collected in a suit.
Thanks to your responses.
From: Dave-M@cup.portal.com (David Russell Mottern)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Short Squeeze on Federated Dept. Stores
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:57:54 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


>	Federated Dept. Stores has one of the largets short positions around. 
>However, the company is strong and is coming out of bankruptcy (due to
>Campeau's takeover) ahead of schedule.
>	Look for a short squeeze to boost Fedrated (FD-NYSE) to around
>$25/share by March.  Strong sales may boost it even farther.  If sales growth
>continues and Federated pays off debt early, a 3-year price of $45-50/share is
>reasonable.

This is probably a dumb question, but where can I look to find out the short
position of a given stock? Where did YOU get this info?
Newsgroups: misc.invest,misc.taxes
From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
Subject: Re: Need advice to lower taxes
Originator: acheng@shalom.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:53:38 GMT


In article <barrett.726504866@cc.gatech.edu>, barrett@forge.gatech.edu (James Barrett) writes:
>On this issue of deductible IRAs, I'm unclear about what it means to
>be "covered" by a 401(k).  My wife will be eligible for using her company's
>401(k) late in the year.  If she does not take advantage of it, will our
>IRA contributions still be limited (erased if we make $50k)?

Unfortunately, yes.  Just the availability, without participation, of
such a plan is enough to disqualify.  IRS has a publication dedicated
to all IRA questions.  You should get one.

I just read it (not all yet) and found another surprise.  The affected
year is the year that the plan *ENDS*.  Say, your company's pension
plan year is from July to June.  You left it on Dec. 31st, 1992; start
working on another company this year.  The new company has no qualified
pension plan whatsoever.  So, you think you can have deductible IRA?
Wrong.  Your old company's pension plan, which ends this year,
disqualifies you for this year.  The example given by IRS does not say
if you would be qualified for last year.

This IRA matter is so confusing and such a trap.  Those rascals at
Washington should either eliminate it all or make it open to all
without all these IF's, BUT's.

Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: tcubed@ddsw1.mcs.com (James Hanlon)
Subject: Re: Stock Symbols for Fun & Profit
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:11:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

BEAM : Summit Technology (makes laser medical devices)
COMS : 3com

Newsgroups: misc.invest,misc.taxes
Subject: Re: Need advice to lower taxes
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 14:51:06 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus) writes:

> In article <H1V5wB1w161w@cdthq.UUCP> gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston) writes:
> >The presence or absence of a 401(k) plan does *not* affect deductability
> >of IRA contributions.
> 
> A 401(k) most definitely IS a qualified pension plan.  Pardon my
> French, but where in the world did you obtain the information that it
> is not?

Everything I've read and heard has indicated otherwise. However,
I don't have the relevant IRS publication in front of me; anybody
who does is free to post....

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler)
Subject: Syntex (SYN) and Naprosyn
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:41:09 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard

I read in the WSJ today that Syntex (NYSE: SYN) has a 
drug called Naprosyn that could give ibuprofin a run 
for its money in the over-the-counter pain-killer market.  
Does anyone have any other info on this and what it might 
mean for their stock? Does anyone know the schedule for 
approval of Naprosyn for over the counter sales?
From: alvin@zany.mti.sgi.com (Alvin Oga)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Capital Gains tax?
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:33:27 GMT
Reply-To: alvin@zany.mti.sgi.com (Alvin Oga)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zany.mti.sgi.com

Let's suppose that you bought the house for $ 50,000 as husband & wife
a few years ago.  Now its time to settle the divorce and split the assets,
according to 50% each party., lets say for the sake of argument.

Let's also suppose that the current value of the property is $ 100,000

CAPITAL GAINS  =  $ 100,000 - $ 50,000 = $ 50,000
	His share is $ 25,000 which may or may  NOT be taxable.

	Let's ignore any adjustment to the 'basis' such as closing costs,
	points, commissions, legal fees, improvements, etc.

YOU BOTH CAN SHELTER YOUR CAPITAL GAINS OF $ 25,000 EACH
BY RE-INVESTING  INTO A NEW 'PRIMARY RESIDENCE' within
24 months of the 'signing of the paperwork'.  Each of you must buy a property
of at least $ 50,001  and the terms of the purchase is irrevelant as long as
the next 'home' is at least $ 1.oo more than the old one.

If you don't buy another property within 24 months, you will be responsible
for paying taxes on your portion of the 'capital gains'.  The gains is simply
added to your current income and pay the taxes based on the higher income.

IN YOUR CASE, YOU ARE BUYING THE OTHER HALF OF THE HOUSE.
THE PROBLEM COULD BE IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A STICKY POINT
IF YOU  'REINVEST' YOUR GAINS INTO THE HOUSE YOU ALREADY
OWNED.

TALK WITH A KNOWLEDGABLE CPA & TAX ATTORNEY.
good luck
alvin		alvin@mti.sgi.com
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: naz@mickey-csdl.jsc.nasa.gov (Nazareth Bedrossian)
Subject: Re:  OK, what about THIS strategy?
Followup-To: misc.invest
Organization: Draper Lab - Houston
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:25:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.215708.7319@cs.yale.edu>, blenko-tom@CS.YALE.EDU (Tom
M. Blenko) wrote:
> 
> 
> | I took a management course wherein a guest lecturer spoke about
> | finances and stocks.  Pressed for some investing advice (not
> | necessarily expected of this lecturer, but she relented), she
> | told us her old boss had gotten quite wealthy with a simple
> | strategy:  each August (I don't know the significance of August)
> | he would buy stocks with a low PE ratio (4 or less), and sell those
> | whose PE ratio had grown out of that range over the previous year.
> | He supposedly only did this once each year.
> 
I remember reading about a similar strategy by someone named Hirsch (Hirsch
Report?) (the exact name escapes me but I can look it up) who would buy
essentially the lowest priced, highest yielding stock from the Dow 30 list.
He would do this once a year, it would take him no more than one hour and
his record over 20 years is some awesome number, approx. 20%.  He has a few
different variations, like the best 5, best 1, best 10 etc. In all cases he
would throw out the lowest priced highest yielding stock on the basis that
it really was in trouble. The premise is that the market has overreacted on
these stocks (in engineering terms its undamped so it undershoots on the
downside and overshoots on the upside from the steady state price) and
penalized them excessively.  You can pick any time of the year, it doesn't
have to be the first or even a year.  If I am not mistaken, Geraldine
Weiss? (Book: Dividends don't lie) follows a similar approach. Hope this
helps!
From: tims@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Tim Sasseen)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: pricing scheme for stock comissions
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:06:26 GMT
Organization: Space Science Labs
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu

Hello,
	In a recent post of the comissions of various discount
brokers, there was a clear trend that buying 20 shares at $100 /share
is cheaper (by about a factor of 2) than buying 500 shars at $4 /share.
Does anyone know why things are priced this way?

Thanks,

Tim Sasseen
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Subject: Motion works ...
Reply-To: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:55:18 GMT


hi,


Does anyone on the net have any information on the
company motion works (MW-VSE). I know they design
multi-media software, and their stock price has 
doubled in the last 2 months. 
 

thanks


roger.
Newsgroups: misc.invest,misc.taxes
From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
Subject: IRA (Re: Need advice to lower taxes)
Originator: acheng@shalom.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:03:43 GMT


In article <V4c9wB1w161w@cdthq.UUCP>, gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston) writes:
>cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus) writes:
>
>> In article <H1V5wB1w161w@cdthq.UUCP> gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston) writes:
>> >The presence or absence of a 401(k) plan does *not* affect deductability
>> >of IRA contributions.
>> 
>> A 401(k) most definitely IS a qualified pension plan.  Pardon my
>> French, but where in the world did you obtain the information that it
>> is not?
>
>Everything I've read and heard has indicated otherwise. However,
>I don't have the relevant IRS publication in front of me; anybody
>who does is free to post....

According to IRS publication 17 (1991), pg. 109: (not exact wording)
Employer Plans are:
   *A qualified pension, profit sharing, stock bonus, money purchase,
        etc., plan (including Keogh plans),
   *401(k)
   *Union plan
   *Qualified annuity plan
   *A plan established for employees by federal, state or local government
   *SEP
   *501(c)(18)
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: S&P Research Reports
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:13:54 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Todd Jochem <tjochem@d3.ius.cs.cmu.edu> writes:

	I just saw an ad in Barron's for research reports on any public
	company from Standard and Poor's. The cost for these 7 page
	reports is about $10. Has anyone had any experience with these
	reports?

When they started this, I checked out a few just to see what they were
like.  It's pretty standard stuff, but the coverage is pretty good.  It
kind of reminded me of Value Line with less analytics and more news
clippings.

	Is the saved time worth the $10?

How much is your time worth?

/jordan
From: amw116@mesrx.com (amy m wong)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: solid-state polymer batteries by Valence Tech.
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:20:32 GMT
Distribution: world


I'm curious if anyone knows anything about the new solid-state
polymer batteries and the company that produces it.  This 
technology is owned by Valence Tech.  I was reading in the 
San Jose Mercury News, Dec.10, how Valence Tech. just 
signed a $100 million deal to supply  Motorola Inc. with
this new type of battery.  According to the article, it states that
"Valence's batteries are lighter and have better recharging
characteristics than the nickel-cadmium, or NiCad, battery packs now 
popular for portable electronic devices, analysts said."  It 
continues to say, "the profit potential is huge: The new battery costs
about one-tenth as much to make as a comparable NiCad battery but 
sells for 50 percent more."  Now I assume that this technology must
be sound since Motorola is willing to spend that much money for it. 

It seems like a good investment.  If this battery entered the notebook
market, the company would have a field day replacing all those NiCad
batteries.  Does anyone have any more information on this company and
the state of the technology? 



Thanks
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: Dave Dodson <dodson@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: "seasonal adjusted"
Originator: dodson@bach.convex.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:57:22 GMT
Reply-To: dodson@convex.COM (Dave Dodson)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <C0HqtH.5AB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng) writes:
>
>What does the term "seasonal adjusted" mean?  E.g. Seasonal adjusted
>unemployment is down 40,000 for the Christmas week.  Or seasonal
>adjusted new houses started.  Does the government say, "well, it is
>holiday season, everyone is on vacation for two out of the five days.
>Let us doctor the numbers and report only 60% of the unemployed
>figures." Can someone explain?

Suppose you are a school teacher and work 9 months out of the year,
earning $3,000 each month you work.  If your income is zero in the
summer months, then your 'seasonally adjusted' income is $2,250 per
month for each of the 12 months.  If a pollster asked you for your
income in April, say, you would say $3,000 but he would write down
a 'seasonally adjusted' figure of $2,250.  When you said $0 in the
summer, he again would write down the $2,250.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Dave Dodson		                             dodson@convex.COM
Convex Computer Corporation      Richardson, Texas      (214) 497-4234

Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: billj@b11.ingr.com (Bill Johnson)
Subject: Re: Quicken and Investments
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:10:57 GMT

In article <C0E0nB.55L@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>, dmw@taurus.ece.cmu.edu (Hank Walker) writes:
|> 
|> One point that should be made about investment software is that I think
|> Quicken will be an obviously superior choice for people who are primarily
|> interested in checkbook operations, budgeting, and tracking income and
|> expenses, and whose investments tend to have the following characteristics:
|>     - mostly mutual funds
|>     - 401(k)/403(b) retirement plans with unknown details
|>     - a few stocks
|> 
|> I find the new graphing and querying capability of Quicken 2 for Windows to
|> be one of its most useful features for gaining insight into where the money
|> comes from and goes.

Nobody has mentioned, yet, that the latest PC Magazine has a comparison of personal finance
software.  The Editors Choices: Managing Your Money, Quicken (DOS and Windows versions) -- in that
order.

I personally use Quicken for Windows. I find it easy to use, easy to setup, and does about everything
I need.  The graphing capability is nice.  There is some room for improvement here, but 2.0 was the
first release that offered this feature.

Bill
From: jrbd@craycos.com (James Davies)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: How can I profit by investing $20?
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:13:00 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <1993Jan7.004749.19995@news.columbia.edu> rs69@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Rong Shen) writes:
>Hi Experts:
>
>	At this moment, I have just $20 in my pocket. I can not take
>the delight in thinking about buying 100 shares of stocks each of
>which is worth $150. In what kind of investments can I stake my $20?
>How can I get started?

If you're going to be looking for a job soon, invest in a book.
Either get a book about how to interview, or buy a book on
the currently hot topics in your field so that you can memorize
the right buzzwords to speak at your interviews.  If done right,
this technique can yield several thousand percent returns in only
a year or so (in the form of increased salary :-).
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: EXABYTE - Any comments ?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 04:08:50 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

Computer peripherals are a cut-throat competitive market
segment, have been for several years, and promise to
continue to be so.

One would have to evaluate that Exabyte is particularly
well positioned, and is undervalued, before deciding
they're a strong buy.

What's special about Exabyte?  What's to keep a 
previously unknown NoName TapeDrives Inc. from 
running them out of the market in 6 months?

Steve
Newsgroups: misc.invest,misc.taxes
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Subject: Re: Need advice to lower taxes
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:51:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.122302.3646@hemlock.cray.com> davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) writes:
>What I don't understand (and correct me if I'm wrong), is that for a normal
>IRA (where you do *not* deduct the depoit's, only the interest is tax defered) -
>you can only invest $2000 per yr.  But you can open as many as you want.  Is
>this just a loophole that might be closed (i.e. the as many as you want).  If
>not why not get rid of the limit and make everyone's paperwork easier.  

You can, indeed, contribute to as many IRAs as you want ... so long as
the sum of their value does not exceed $2,000 per year.  There is no
real loophole.
--
-- Christophe

"Bad analogy!  No biscuit!"
From: johng@phred.UUCP (johng)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Possible to obtain list of Company's shareholders?
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:06:05 GMT
Organization: Physio Control Corp., Seattle WA

Is it possible to obtain a list of all the shareholders in a public company?
How would you get this information?
From: hus@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: <None>
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:25:05 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

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Newsgroups: misc.invest