HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us (Mark Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: In The Village with Number 6
Keywords: prisoner village information
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:41:22 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:
> 	A while back I posted asking if any one could mail me a Prisoner
> FAQ list.  It was really just a follow-up "me too" kinda post to some
> other guy's request.  Well he later got it, but I didn't.  I'd really
> appreciate someone e-mailing me such a list, as I'm curious about the
> fine points of the show.  Thanks in advance. 
> 	I'm going to go to sleep now. 

  Actually, the best FAQ list for the Prisoner is the GURPS Prisoner 
sourcebook.  That and a good Prisoner retrospective book can answer most 
of your questions (though some things just cannot be answered - as with 
Twin Peaks, people will be wondering about the Prisoner to the end of 
time).
 
 - Mark Hughes (Caves of Steel 509-624-2078)  mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us
"In case you're not a gamer, GURPS is a role-playing game - you can 
probably find GURPS Prisoner at any hobby shop.  Don't bother with the  
GURPS game itself, though.  It's not that good...  Just has great 
sourcebooks."
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From: jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason Michael Farmer)
Subject: Re: Highlander - TV Series
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:52:14 GMT

lauriec@microsoft.com (Laurie Corrin) writes:

>I think it's supposed to be either Seattle, or just a generic American city.
>Do they ever say where it's supposed to be set? I recognized the Vancouver 
>locales, but all the license plates say Washington State.  

That is all the license plates that they can change.  I drove through the
filming one day, and sure enough there was my truck driving by in one scene.


-- 
Jason Farmer                 |  Daisemi'in rhhaensuriuu
jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca        |      meillunsiateve
Simon Fraser University      |           Rh'e Mnhei'sahe yie ahr'en:
Burnaby, British Columbia    |  
Canada                       |   Mnahe afw'ein qiuu;
                             |      rh'e hweithnaef
                             |           mrht Heis'he ehl'ein qiuu.

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From: aorpha@spock.uucp (Andreas Orphanides)
Subject: Re: day of the triffids?
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:36:00 GMT

In article <rawdon.721799109@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <YR6SB3ZQ@cc.swarthmore.edu> rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Brooks) writes:
>>In article <92318.170636IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
>>writes:
>>> In one of my late night PBS viewing binges I caught the middle
>>> of "Day of the Triffid's" - Does anyone know if it has ever come
>>> out on video? - From what I remember, the film (undoubtedly BBC)
>>> seemed to end in an incomplete manner. Does my memory do me wrong?
>
>>You're right, the film did end inconclusively with the main male character
>>(his name escapes me now) saying how one day the world would be free of the
>>scourge of the Triffids, etc.  This was done because Wyndham's book ends in
>>the same way and if my memory serves me correctly the film did a pretty
>>good job of following the plot of the book.  Not sure about its
>>availability on video however.  I'd be very interested to know the answer
>>to this too.
>
>I thought the 3-part series was stellar; very well adapted, extremely
>well paced and directed, and just downright chilling.  I've had a copy
>on video taped off PBS for several years, so I dunno if it's commercially
>available.  I think it comes around on PBS every so often, so you might
>be able to grab it then.

I found Day of the Triffids on VHS in a Sears Outlet somewhere in
Massachusetts or was it Rhode Island. It was only like three dollars and
it was pretty much complete (i think) except for the part whre the guy flashed
back to childhood and he saw the stumps at the bottom of the triffid, etc.
Never thought that part went well with the plot, anyway, but still...
It was in the same rack with Deputy Dog and Godzilla Vs Megalon, that stuff
Doubt you'll find it again tho'.

(.sig pending)

aorpha@choate.edu   and if that doesnt work it may have ben changed to 
ramirez@choate.edu
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL: Leap I'd like to see....
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:41:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxxzHK.Cyx
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I was thinking about leaps I'd like to see Sam live through,
and I couldn't help thinking of this one.

Catholic all girls high school in the 1980's.  I want to see him deal
with Blackwatch plaid, knee socks, petty backbiting, smoking behind
the parked cars in the alley, and big hair.

I went to a private catholic school on the North Side of Chicago for
9 years, and I was one of 16 seniors, yes we were THAT small, and
I'd LOVE to see how Sam would react to what I lived through for YEARS.

So, what would you all on the net like to see?

Curious LJC
-- 
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Disclaimer: The U of I doesn't give a damn or blast WHAT I do
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: "Concept Theft: " B5 v DS9 and Roddenberry (Re: BABYLON 5 vs ST:DSN)
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:22:27 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Nov20.162329.1733@pages.com>, bwebster@pages (Bruce F. Webster) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.142644.1613@hubcap.clemson.edu>  
>rwillis@hubcap.clemson.edu (Richard "Crash" Willis) writes:
>> 
>> 	Also, according to the same articles, B5 already has a 5-8 year
>> storyline already set up, indicating that a lot of creative work
>> has gone into it as an orginal idea, and that the tone of B-5 is entirely
>> diffrent that Star Trek, taking on a much darker and 'realistic' view
>> of the future than Star Trek. I've heard that the unofficial motto
>> of B5 is "No Cute Kids or Robots...ever."
>> 
>
>Wonderful! I think that ST:TNG's biggest flaw has been a constant drift back
>to cutesy story lines. I'm looking foward to something with a bit of an edge
>to it. 

Well, I've complained enough about it on r.a.st.current, so why not here, too?

MHO about What's Wrong with TNG:

1. All characters are invulnerable.  It's hard to get away from this when
   you've got contracted actors.  I just wish they'd work a little harder
   to make it at least seem like the characters are in danger.

2. All characters are immutable.  Last season, Picard had an experience that
   (presumably) aged him by >40 years.  Yet the next episode, he is essentially
   unchanged.  A few seasons ago, he was kidnapped by the Borg, and forced
   to assist in the decimation of Starfleet.  Except for a few token references
   in the episodes after, you'd never even known that had happened.

3  Too much reliance on technobabble and special effects, and too little
   reliance on characters and story.  A lot of times it seems like the
   people in charge of approving scripts wouldn't know a good story if it
   came up and bit them on the @$$.  I find it easier to believe (particularly
   since about 1/2 way through the fourth season) that the good stories
   made it through more by chance than design.

4. TNG desperately wants more continuity between story lines.  Given a
   particular premise, there are only so many stories you can tell from
   a cold start to a complete finish in 45 minutes.  Serious repitition
   started last season, and shows little sign of slowing down.

   This doesn't necessarily mean a story line that is continued from episode
   to episode like a soap opera.  I've been particularly impressed by the way
   "Seinfeld" characters and situations carry over from episode to episode,
   and yet each one stands well on its own.

If I were to summarize all that into one sentence, I'd say that Paramount is
making so much money off of Star Trek that it is unwilling to take risks with
it.

-- 
Hey, everybody -- somebody said `mattress' to Mr. Lambert!  TWICE!
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From: anderss@carson.u.washington.edu (Michael Andersson)
Subject: Re: Star Trek - TNG mail group
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:48:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.191644.1772@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> cgallagher@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>In article <2B082298@ssd0.laafb.af.mil>, KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>> Could somebody tell me if there is a mail group for Star Trek - The Next 
>> Generation?  I don't have BITNET access, so if there is an Internet 

Sorry, all I know about is BITNET.  See below.

>> address, I would apprectiate that.  You can e-mail if you don't want to post 
>> the answer.  Thanx.
>> 
>> Rick Kitchen
>> kitchenrn@space.laafb.af.mil
>> 
>
>
>	If there is a ST:TNG mailing list, pleadse post.  I'm sure 
>others are interested too.
>
>Thanks
>
>Colin
>

STREK-L@PCCVM.BITNET
STREK-D@PCCVM.BITNET
Need I remind you to use LISTSERV?

New on the net
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Trilogy I
Date: 18 Nov 1992 03:26:13 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Nov18.023431.8909@grebyn.com> billones@grebyn.com (Jeremy Billones) writes:
>
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>Wow.

	Agreed.  Not only is this setting up to be a great murder mystery,
but I've got to say I was impressed with the young actress playing Abigail.
I haven't seen a child that creepy since the young Nell in Mother Love.

>The basic plot was straighforward - Sam leaps into a Sheriff; he and his
>daughter die in a fire two nights later.  But several things contributed
>to making the Leap unusual.  Not only was his daughter a suspect, but
>his wife was a constant presence, in more ways than one.  In fact, Sam
>never really got involved with why he was there, because of his involvement
>with everything else.

	I thought the "why was he there" was to make sure the girl didn't
die in the fire; he didn't get any information from Al early on so he was
rather confused.

>Question - can this be considered the definitive answer to "What happens
>if Sam gets killed while leaping?"  (The Big Man Upstairs pulls the ripcord,
>and the other poor shmuck bites it.  Probably.)

	Depends on whether the sheriff died or not.  Looks like he did
(especially considering he wasn't in the ohboy segment), though.

	A couple additional comments:  What kind of name is "Trilogy"?  That's
right down there with Star Trek: The Next Generation's worst (and TNG has had
some pretty miserable episode titles).  I mean, why not give the episodes
seperate titles with some wordplay or give the story a _NAME_ rather than just
Trilogy?

	And are we to figure that Abby's mother could see Al (if not Sam)?

									-Jay



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From: larne@canetoad.UUCP (Larne Pekowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL - Attention Al Fans!
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:00:20 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love


[Posted for a friend without net access.  Enjoy, and of course additions
 are welcome]
        
So, You Know You Like Al Better When...
 
1) You're disappointed in the 1992 Calendar, because too many of 
the pictures are of Sam.
 
2) You never saw "Necessary Roughness," but you _have_ seen 
"Shame" and "The Boy With The Green Hair."
 
3) You're keeping a list of Al's wives.  You've noticed they 
haven't given the second one a name -- you still have a chance if 
you're Jewish and Hungarian.
 
4) Your favorite shot in the credits is the one of Al in uniform.  
In fact...
 
5) ...you've noticed that Al seems to be in uniform in most of 
your favorite episodes.
 
6) The leather jacket.  If you gasped involuntarily upon reading 
that, no need to read further.
 
7) You actually watch "Portrait of Troian" just 'cause the scene 
in the crypt is so cute.
 
8) You turn up the radio whenever "Georgia" or "Unchained Melody" 
comes on.
 
9) You voted for Admiral James Stockdale for Vice President.
 
10) "Nozzle" has made its way into your everyday vocabulary.

--
...uunet!canetoad!larne                          canetoad!larne@uunet.uu.net
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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Re: In The Village with Number 6
Keywords: prisoner village information
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:25:33 GMT

	A while back I posted asking if any one could mail me a Prisoner
FAQ list.  It was really just a follow-up "me too" kinda post to some
other guy's request.  Well he later got it, but I didn't.  I'd really
appreciate someone e-mailing me such a list, as I'm curious about the
fine points of the show.  Thanks in advance. 
	I'm going to go to sleep now. 
-- 
   Gord Locke, a.k.a.    |    "I'm not an       | "The Universe is so big
glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | Internet address ... | I get dizzy when I think
  Newfoundland, Canada   |   I'm a free man!"   |  about it" -Sugarcubes
From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL - Trilogy 1 <spoilers>
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:24:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Since I never know how much I'm going to say in my first impressions,
spoiler protection follows:







(wishing for the umpteenth time that my news server recognized ^L)












Anyway, first impressions for Trilogy, Part 1:

It seems to me like QL has been giving us the bait and hook lately.  First,
the whole Evil Leaper thing was established to keep us coming back and
wondering "Is she here this week?  Who is she?" Etc.  Now we have the first
in a three part series of episodes focused around the murders of Violet and
Bart Aider.

Not that I minded the bait and hook routine on this one.  The concept (while
having been done with "The Leap Home I & II") is being taken on a much larger
scale and with more twists, turns, and mysteries than we have seen before.
Actually, upon thinking about it, this looks like it's becoming an elongated
"Good Night, Dear Heart", except its spanning decades.

No major complaints about the ep (so far, I should say).  We don't really know
enough about the story to poke holes in it yet.  However, I have a theory as
to what's going on that I will not mention because if I'm right, I will be
very upset that I figured it out so early (halfway into tonight's episode).
I'm usually very naive about obvious plot lines.  One question I do have to
ask though is WHY THE HELL DIDN'T SAM GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
(Oh, and one more for the "obvious" category:  I KNEW that Sam had leaped into
Abigail's husband (okay, fiance) at the end.  Gee, Sam, you didn't seem like
much of a prude there!)

Deborah Pratt is always a good writer, but I think we're going to have to see
more of this one before I can make any further judgments one way or another.
Much of the episode just left me confused.

	<further comments to be saved for follow up articles>


-- 
* Tracy E. Finifter                       *                                   *
*  finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu           *    "Sanity is overrated."         *
*  Douglass College, Rutgers University   *                                   *
*  New Brunswick, New Jersey              *                -- Kimberly Weston *
From: romain@salt.eng.pyramid.com (Romain Kang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Meg Foster
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:56:07 GMT
Reply-To: romain@pyramid.com
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp, San Jose, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: salt.eng.pyramid.com

In <DLB.92Nov19133552@fanny.wash.inmet.com> David Barton writes:
| For further information, consult the actress list in rec.arts.tv,
| which gets posted periodically.

From the 7/92 revision:
Foster, Meg		Adam at 6 A.M.
			Backstab
			Best Kept Secrets (TV)
			Blind Fury
			Carny
			Dead On: Relentless II (aka Dead On)
			Death of Me Yet, The (TV)
			Desperate (1987) (TV)
			Desperate Intruder (TV)
			Different Story, A
			Diplomatic Immunity
			Emerald Forest, The
			Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones (TV)
			James Dean (TV)
			Jezebel's Kiss
			Legend of Sleepy Hollow, The (TV)
			Leviathan (1989)
			Masters of the Universe
			Osterman Weekend, The
			Promise Him Anything (TV)
			Relentless (1989)
			Stepfather 2: Make Room for Daddy, The
			Sunshine (TV)
			Sunshine Christmas (TV)
			They Live
			Things in Their Season (TV)
			Thumb Tripping
			Ticket to Heaven
			To Catch a Killer (TV)
			Tripwire
			Welcome to Arrow Beach
			Wind, The (1987)
			"Cagney & Lacey"
			"Scarlet Letter, The" (mini)
			"Sunshine"
From: iwsbarke@acs.ucalgary.ca (I W Scott Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:19:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dave Lister (pjm6z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
> I would tend to agree that the introduction of Fazeil would be an excellent
> to end the series and kill off Duncan.  The epsiode could end with Fazeil
> killing Duncan and Connor chasing off after him.  This would lead up directly
> to the beginning of the first movie.

I'd have to disagree with that. If Connor was chasing Fazeil because Fazeil
killed Duncan, why would he say "Fazeil, wait..." in a tone of voice which
made it sound like they knew each other fairly well, and Conner didn't really
want to fight. It always seemed to me that Fazeil was the one hunting Conner
in those opening scenes anyway.

Perhaps it would be better to have Duncan killed off rather randomly, which
may help to explain why Connor seemed rather "happy go lucky" in the series,
but he seems rather broodish in the movie - he has seen to many friends and
loved ones die. I believe someone else mentioned an idea like this before.


--
Scott Barker
iwsbarke@acs.ucalgary.ca

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From: morrissey@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: In The Village with Number 6
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:08:24 GMT

In article <Bxv6qr.4wu@news.ucs.mun.ca>, glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:
> 	A while back I posted asking if any one could mail me a Prisoner
> FAQ list.  It was really just a follow-up "me too" kinda post to some
> other guy's request.  Well he later got it, but I didn't.  I'd really
> appreciate someone e-mailing me such a list, as I'm curious about the
> fine points of the show.  Thanks in advance. 
> 	I'm going to go to sleep now. 
> -- 


Me, too, please.

Janet Morrissey
"Mostly Harmless"

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From: jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley)
Subject: Re: QL:  The Leap Back?
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:53:12 GMT

In article <DLB.92Nov17111809@fanny.wash.inmet.com> dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton) writes:
>In article <9760@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> willdm+@pitt.edu (William D Moore) writes:
>
>   Could someone either verify or correct my observation concerning the 
>   syndicated running of Quantum Leap on USA.  If I remember correctly,
>   they aired the episode "Shock Theater" on Friday, Nov. 13th.  Naturally
>   the next episode to be shown would have been "The Leap Back".  But when
>   I turned on the TV at 7:00 pm on Monday, Nov. 16th to watch it, they were
>   instead showing the episode "Play Ball".  What the hell?
>
>This has been asked several times.  USA does show Quantum Leap on
>Saturdays, at the same time (7:00 PM eastern).  The Leap Back played
>last Saturday.
>
>					Dave Barton
>					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com

According to the TV Guide, "Swamp Thing" was to play at 7pm, followed
by "Beyond Reality".  Did you actually *see* QL during this time
slot, thus dashing our hopes of seeing it soon, or is there still
a chance that USA just got things a little out of order?

  -Jenni

"Theorizing that one could travel through Boston on the MBTA,
Dr. Sam Beckett stepped onto the Green Line...and vanished!
Trapped on the `T', Dr. Beckett finds himself leaping from
station to station, using `T' Passes that are not his own...
His only companion is Al, a `B' line car that only Sam can
see and ride..."
From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: DEEP SPACE NINE preview on QVC: 12/5
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:58:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

Is this going to be an actual preview epsiode, or will we just be
bombarded for two hours with "Buy this now or _DIE_" type pitches?

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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Subject: Re: QL: "DUfE": further observations
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:25:16 GMT

kay@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (k) writes:
> iho@cac.washington.edu writes:
> >A new topic.  Was this the first episode where Ziggy was referred to as
> >"she"?

> Oh heck no.  In "The Leap Back" (which was, what, last season's opener?), 
> Ziggy was shown, and her voice was most definitely female.  (Also quite
> sexy, IMHO.)  I'm not sure if that was the first, but it was definitely
> long before this episode.

I know that, but I can't remember hearing either of them use the pronoun
"she" to refer to Ziggy.  In fact, before that episode, they referred to
Ziggy as "he" many times.

-- 
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