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From: joseph@panix.com (Joseph R. Skoler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Please help registering/acquiring title to Bike last reg. in RI
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:14:59 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


I've just purchased a 1982 Honda CM450 Custom from a salvage dealer.

I got it cheap, but without title.  I've been on the phone all day trying 
to sort this out, but maybe someone on the net can help.

Is it true that RI never issued (or required) title papers for vehicles
with 1982 and earlier years?

If so, how do I register (and acquire title for) it in New York?

I have a bill of sale (so the vehicle is not stolen), but the New York
Dept. of Motor Vehicles will not issue a title or registration without a 
signed over title and old registration.

Please help!

Thanks,

 Joseph R. Skoler

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From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: R100GS final drive trouble
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:47:30 -0600
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

In article <JET.92Nov5101740@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>First off, how does that much water get in there *in the first place*?
>Is this a prob with BMW's in general, or is this a symptom of a bad
>seal?  Also, should the final drive really be able to "boil" water?  I
>hope not...

OK.  Consider this a reply to everybody who emailed me as well, ok?

History:  The bike a year old, has about 7000 miles, and had an
"Inspection I" 1600 miles ago.  It does get ridden in the rain and,
unfortunately, must live outside when parked, too.


Looking at my service history book, ISP. I does NOT include
changing the oil in the rear drive, but ISP. II does.


When they looked at it, they said "It's full of water, so it's overflowing."
)wince(  Their explaination is:

When you stop riding, moist air tends to flow into the drive unit.
The water condenses and the oil tends to absorb the moisture.
If you go on a long (>50mi they claim) ride, the oil heats up enough
that the water evaporates (they might have said "boils") out of the oil.


Anyway, according to the maintainence guide, the fluid should have been
OK to leave unchecked until next month sometime when I take it in for
the 8500 Mi. ISP. II and 1-year checkup.

If somebody wants to call Cali. BMW or whatever and ask what they think,
please do so.  I can't really afford the long distance call right now.
Thanks.

-
-John


-- 
-
-John H. Osborn                     - Boycott Colorado
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu               - Enforced discrimination MUST NOT STAND
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar     - Queer, Proud, and Angry
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:38704 ba.motorcycles:777
From: tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE??
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:56:16 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

re "the finger": Most of the time it means "I know I'm wrong and I don't
give a damn."

-TC
From: cmhg1010@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: info on '74 cow for sale
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:21:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxL5F1.3CG
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I just saw a posting refering to a '74 Kawasaki for sale.
I did not see the original posting, but if 
the person is still interested in selling
the bike, please contact me.

Cy Herring
cmhg1010@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:38914 ba.motorcycles:793
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity (Re: IS IT POSSIBLE??)
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:10:59 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

I thought the results of academic inquiry into the matter of Human Stupidity
might provide some insight.  The following is from an article entitled,
"The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity", which appeared in the Spring '87 _Whole
Earth Review_.  The author, Carlo M. Cipolla, is a Professor of Economics at
U.C. Berkeley.

First, a terminological point; Cipolla classifies people according to
position on the following 2-d graph:


            -    <-----Net Benefit to Self----->    +
                                 |
                                 |                  ^
                   Helpless      |  Intelligent    Net
                                 |               Benefit
                  ---------------+--------------   to
                                 |               Society
                   Stupid        |       Bandit     v
                                 |
                                 |                  -


These are the Basic Laws of Human Stupidity according to Cipolla:

 1. Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid
    individuals in circulation.

 2. The probability that a certain person be stupid is independent of
    any other characteristic of that person.

 3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or
    to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
    incurring losses.

 4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid
    individuals.  In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget
    that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal
    and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly
    mistake.

 5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
 Corollary:
    A stupid person is more dangerous than a bandit.


From the article:

  "Because a stupid person's actions do not conform to the rules of
   rationality, it follows that:

   a) one is generally caught by surprise by the attack;

   b) even when one becomes aware of the attack, one cannot organize a
   rational defense, because the attack itself lacks any rational
   structure"


I strongly recommend that everyone (particularly motorcyclists) read the
whole article if they have the chance.

-- 
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                                        INTERNET: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu
From: davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Pronunciation (was: If you could pick
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:27:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <27872.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us
 (Dave Williams)  writes:

> I keep hearing stories that J.A.P. engines or major pieces thereof are
>still available, but nobody has come up with an address.

> The overall layout looks-a verra nahss, and I'd love to slide one into
>a spare Harley chassis just to see the look on people's faces.

I either posted the address or mailed it to you months ago, I'll have to
look it up again.  They will sell you an engine and a sturmey archer
gearbox to go with it.

Cheers, Dave

--
David Edmondson                 davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Queen Mary & Westfield College  DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000
"Eccles never keeps his boots in his pocket."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:54:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.085944.28530@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.071302.13943@panix.com>,
>bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) ponders:
>>How do you deal with your passenger's clothing choices?
>
>I force my passengers to wear a helmet, jacket, and gloves -- beyond the
>requisite pants, shoes, etc.  Yeah, they know the risks when they mount the
				     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Actually, I've found even this isn't that true. I have (seemingly)
	intelligent friends who can't understand what's wrong with riding
	a motorcycle in shorts (or a skirt) and a t-shirt until I explain it
	to them. I've had quite a few people protest until I explain why
	(i.e. it's not just that I have some kinky thing for black leather)
	you need protective gear, then they won't ride without it.

>bike, but they're also not the ones in control of it.  I recommend boots, but
>my wife won't wear 'em, either.  Stressing the importance of retaining the
>use of the hands, I insist on gloves.  In the event of asphalt surfing, she'd
>naturally put them out to meet the pavement, anyway.

	This is a good point (the gloves thing), but does anyone know whether
	good gloves really provide good skid protection? I have a pair of 
	Tour Rider fingerless gloves that I assume will give me a *little*
	but of protection, but I can't recall having seen casual (i.e. non-
	racing) gloves that I thought would really protect me. My brother gets
	on my case for not using full fingered gloves, but his gloves look
	just as flimsy as mine. I'm simply willing to take the trade-off of
	*much* increased convenience and hope that when "asphalt surfing" I
	will use my palms (can you say rationalization boys & girls?).
	Has anyone seen really solid looking fingerless gloves?

>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          '92 Seca II (Tem)       |
>|                                                                          |
>|         Some don't have the intelligence (apparently) to dispute         |
>|              [Holst's] views, so they hurl insults instead.              |
				    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Ahhh, the rec.moto way of life...

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"Don't believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."  -  Lou Reed
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- Perception Corsica  |  NYC, NY.  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Yippee! Key Fob Arrives!
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:40:39 GMT

captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:

>I wonder what the odds are of someone getting my key back to me based
>on the info provided?  ("rec.motorcycles" on the front, and "DoD# 0690"
>on the back)

If I ever find your lost keys, I'll be more than happy to e-mail them
back to you. :-)

>|Electrics and electronics work on smoke. If you let the smoke
>|out, they stop working.       --- blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com

Shucks, that's not original with me, it's just one of many great ideas
I've been exposed to by the net.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: bikes for the candidates...
Date: 7 Nov 1992 19:19:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <Stafford-301092090805@stafford.winona.msus.edu>
Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>Clinton would not ride a motorcycle.  He would drive a super-econo
>(probably Japanese) car which got better mileage than a BMW or Ducati
>(but not a Harley) and smirk at all of us in our Clinton-armor --
>helmets, shoulder pads, femur splints and cup - for he will support
>the most anti-motorcycle legislation you could imagine.

Care to explain why the bullying of the states by the
DOT has continued unabated through twelve years of
Republican administrations?  This is an executive
branch policy that the White House can change if they
want to.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Loud pipes: get some perspective
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:48:06 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Sunday November 08 1992 03:46, Jeff Deeney wrote to All:

 >> > I think I'll go home, repack my Muzzy, and remove a few disks.
 >>
 >> I thought only SuperTrapps had this feature.

 JD> The Muzzy for my XR uses suppertrapp plates on the end.

I think I'll call Rob up and ask him if I can have that end for my Muzzy
ZX-11 competition exhaust. Then I could tone it down a bit when I have to.
I didn't know Muzzy make an exhaust like that. Thanks for the info!

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Subject: Re: Cops Suck!  Cops Suck!
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:11:06 GMT

>In article 1dr619INN59s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>>
>>That's basically it.  Cops Suck!
>>

So John, how fast were you going?  ;^)
-- 
jimb@access.digex.com  | (Cage) 1991 323se     ZCP-710   |     Comus Road
Merry Land (MD) U.S.A. | (Bike) 1986 GSXR750    (sold)   |     ClarksBURG
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From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:16:18 GMT
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu

In article <1992Nov11.172357.2534@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>, ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.064952.19751@wam.umd.edu>, andyboyl@wam.umd.edu (Andrew 'OPIE' Boyle) writes:
>> Here are my questions:
>> 3- I go to school in Maryland, but am a resident of New Jersey.  If I take
>>    an MSF course, does it transfer from one state to another?  Where is 
>>    insurance cheapest?  How much does the MSF course cost?
> 
> 	I believe completion of the MSF is recognized nationwide.  They
> give you a card or certificate indicating successful completion.  But license
> transfer regulations vary from state-to-state.  As does funding for the MSF
> course.  In PA, it's free, funded by various licensing and registration
> fees.  But I heard in MD they changed some laws recently, so you'll want
> to check with the DMV there.

	Umm, I think there are other complications, now that I think about it.
The written exam will probably have motorcycle-related law questions, and my
completion card does say PA on it, so you will definitely want to check with
your local DMV, I suppose.  Sorry to have caused any confusion.

Rob
--
Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon) "It hisses on snakes."   AMA 642916   DoD 0593
'79 XT500 (The Bitch)        '90 Plymouth Laser RS (Sweetie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: meh0570@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Anybody need a roomie in Austin  TX??
Reply-To: meh0570@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:57:35 GMT


Greetings fellow doders

I just got a coop (or internship) in Austin TX
and will need a place to live.

The cheaper the better as Im still a college student

Will be working for Motorola, but I can live with anyone.

I have some small caged animals, I also have a bike 
but dont know if I will bring it down.

Oh, Im currently in Rochester, NY and its snowing!!!

Please reply via e mail

JC  
DoD #0746
Many Thanks
		
			MEH0570@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
			engineering student
			professional daydreamer
			aspiring mad sciencist
			and bad speller.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: Re: Break-in (what is it?)
Organization: NASA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:52:18 GMT

In article <1dk30nINNea@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>
>The current fashion seems to be to ridicule every newcomer publicly,
>and (allegedly) be helpful and friendly in e-mail.  To enforce this
>pettiness, periodic "innocent" questions are asked, and every
>non-smartass answer is publicly ridiculed as a "hook."
>

So then, are you saying that there aren't really people out there
stupid^H^H^H^H^H^Hinexperienced enough that they have to ask rec.moto
how come their face shield is scratched, or why over-torquing causes
bolts to strip, or why they fall down in the rain?  And further,
are you doubting that people of this level of intelligence can qualify
for admission to certain highly regarded institutes of higher learning?

Several disjoint thoughts from a recent newbie to rec.moto (not to riding):

There are of course people who don't want to learn _any_ answers by their
own experience, and will ask others everytime something tickles their
curiosity.  They are lazy and a pain in the butt.  If the answer wouldn't
benefit anyone, why not just ignore them?  Instead, as you say, the smart
ass answers ensue.  Perhaps the problem of too many dumb questions lies
partly in the response rate being higher for a dumb question than an
inspired one?  Quicker way to get attention.

I submit that professing a motto of "Live to flame, flame to live" must
have figured in to the general atmosphere to some extent.  My initial
impression of rec.moto was that of a bunch of college kids playing games,
what with all the "secret number" stuff.  I'm still here because I have
actually learned quite a lot, after sifting through the flames.  But
_Thank God_ I had the good sense not to ask what DoD means!!

>
>ObMoto:  Still looking.  I think maybe it doesn't get cold enough
>here...
>

It _never_ gets that cold here, but there are still good bike deals around.
Say, why don't you tell rec.moto how much money you have and let them(us)
recommend a bike?

Tom Gent
(still no .sig, so no one will remember me).
ZX-10, Sabre, Fuji, Briggs&Stratton, Chevy, Toyota.
Former: Bultaco, TX500(lemon), Avenger, Elsinore.
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: BSA twins
Summary: who can tell me their strong/weak points
Keywords: BSA, A50, A65
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:04:59 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

At the risk of setting a precident, I have a motorcycle-related question... 8^)

I'm looking for information on BSA vertical twin motors, mid- to late-'60s
vintage.  What were the strong points about these motors, and what were
the weak points?  I've heard that the twins weren't nearly as good as the
singles, and that the bearings in particular were cruft.  Anybody care to
confirm or deny?  I'm somewhat more interested in details for the A65 over
the A50 if that makes a difference, but I think the only real difference
was the bore/stroke dimensions.

I'm currently eyeballing an A65-motored Matchless, dating to about 1966.
I'm presuming this is the original setup.  Matchless stopped making their
own motors around 1960, correct?

I've still got my sick penchant for aging British scoots.  I fear it'll get
me into trouble one of these days.  Maybe I need a smaller garage...  X^}

Mr. Bill
-- 
Bill Leavitt  DoD: #224  Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu  UUCP: uunet!mimsy!leavitt
1982 CBX (White Lightning), 1982 GS850G (Suzibago), 1976 CJ360T (Little Honda)
"Due to circumstances beyond your control,                               =o&>o
=o&>o                   you are master of your fate and captain of your soul."
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Uneven pavement
Date: 8 Nov 92 13:01:15 GMT
	<1992Nov5.091331.21581@cs.ucla.edu>
	<1992Nov5.222538.7183@research.nj.nec.com>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com's message of 5 Nov 92 22:25:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.091331.21581@cs.ucla.edu> noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
Noemi> haven't seen an answer on how to change to a lane that is 4" higher
Noemi> than your current lane -- that is, a 90-degree approach is not an
Noemi> option, avoiding the lane change is not an option (e.g. construction

"The Photographic Analysis of Motorcycle Operator Control Responses",
NPSRI, 1976 studied obstacle surmounting (among other accident
avoidance maneuvers).  I quote:

The task is more complex when the obstacle runs parallel to the
motorcycles's path.  Such obstacles would include curbs, roadway
edges, ruts, or trolley tracks.  The motorcycle must be turned so that
the front wheel will approach the obstacle at a fairly large angle.
If the angle is too small, the front wheel will be deflected.  This
will result in a loss of steering control and the consequent inability
of the operator to maintain balance...

Description of technique.  Assume a path of travel as far from the
edge as possible, typically about 6'.  Apply both brakes to reduce
speed as much as possible.  Turn sharply back to the edge at an angle
of 35-40 degrees.  Straighten the motorcycle so it is not leaned when
you contact the obstacle and cross using the same technique for
straight crossing (look ahead, rise - knees bent, weight back, roll
on, roll off.

The majority of successful maneuvers involved approaching the pavement
edge at an angle of 35-40 degrees.  In a few instances the edge of the
pavement was surmounted at an angle as small as 20 degrees.  In these
cases, the front wheel climbed the pavement, but the rear wheel
skidded along the edge for a short distance.  When this happpened, the
front wheel had to be steered parallel to to the edge of the pavement
until the rear had surmounted it.

This technique is problematic as illustrated in one case where the
rear wheel climbed the pavement edge suddenly and began moving in a
straight ahead direction.  Because the front wheel was turned relative
to the rear, the motorcycle turned sharply and the rider lost control.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."