HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:32:46 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and Unity of India
 <92253.171644DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> <BuCFEF.Gou@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>

In article <BuCFEF.Gou@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
(C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) says:
>>
>>
>> This is interesting, because recently a debate ensued (ref:
>> Girish Bonde posted Subhash Kak's research articles) about whether
>> Aryans came from outside or were original natives of India who
>> spread from inside out. In any case, given Aryan influence on
>> indus vally civilization and the attempts by Kak etc to connect
>> Vedic era with indus vally civilization. My question is where does
>> Tamil/Dravidian language/culture fit into this ? This is a significant
>> aspect of the whole picture because BJP ruled UP and MP states have
>> already introduced in their history books: that Aryans were original
>> natives of India. Are we seeing another north/south problem here ?
>>
>>
>> regards..          Deepak
>>
>   interesting ideas BUT his study is far short of showing that Indus
>   civilization is Aryan. Let me say a few words about my reading of
>   Prof. Kak's ( co-authored or otherwise) statements in this regard.
>   Prof. Kak ( as a co-author along with George Feuerstein and David Frawley)
>   state in " A New View of Ancient India" Yoga Journal July/August 1992 issue
>   page 68:
>         "What the new linguistic evidence suggests is that the Indus
>          Civilization, which flourished around 3000 B.C. and collapsed
>          around 1800 B.C. may have included a strong contingent of
>          Indo-European speakers. Hitherto the Indus people were thought
>          to have been exclusively Dravidian speaking."
>  And, just a few lines later he says in the same page:
>         " ..the Indus people themselves were in fact the creators of
>           Rig-Veda, the most sacred scripture of Hinduism"
>
>
>The linguistic history of India is quite well documented and it is
>abundabtly clear that the Indo-Aryan Speech slowly spread from North-West
>to Magadha region and then very slowly to Middle India but did not make
>any significant dent in the present Tamil land. [If you read
>Prof. S.K. Chatterji's works it will become clear the gradual
>spread of Aryan speech]

I agree with this picture and that is why I asked the first
question what or if there is any connection between Indo-Aryan
(3000-2000BC) and Dravidian (?) culture ? When and how the overlaps
between the two were developed ?

regards..    Deepak

ps: anyway thanks for the informative article.


>
>It will be a gross distortion of the present understanding of research
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>studies to claim that Indus civilization is an Aryan one.
>

Message: keep your eyes and years open to both point of views.

>regards,
>
>Selva Selvakumar
>
>be able to show some rudimentary evidences ( linguistic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable)
Subject: Re: A Ghost Poem......
Reply-To: Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu>
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:40:30 GMT

In article <18394.2aacab5a@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
> avan 'pO' enRaal                           if one says 'go'
> ivan 'vaa' enpaan.                         the other says 'come'.
[deleted to save b/w]
  If Cheran is in the middle, then there is no confusion regarding
this. Just he has to go to the side which asks him to 'come'. In this
way he obliges both the sides. Pretty obvious, huh?

Venkat
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venkat@uhupvm1.uh.edu                 | If it does not, it never was.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: Edu edutthu ezhuthal
Followup-To: m
Keywords: fuck
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 15:05:28 GMT

i have begun at a fest in kuLampu with chief golf MR tOONdilman.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable)
Subject: Re: Non sequitur (was: thugLak aLikkum "puratchi sashti kavacham")
Reply-To: Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu>
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:41:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.212302.27601@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
> What insidious intent (if any) did you suspect?
Trying to avoid a conflict with your girlfriend or fiancee who is
somewhere in Europe or in Australia or in India. Precisely?
> 
> Sthan.
> 
> PS. How does an alt group become defunct? (like alt.culture.tamil)
 I donno. In our site, ACT is officially removed two days back.
> 
> PPS. There is now an alt.non.sequitur, so followups are directed
> there. :)
No, that too is not available in our site. Man, it seems that your site
is loaded with only alt hierarchies. Is there any alt.Sthan.babble  ;-)
in your umd site? Just curious. 

Venkat
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venkat@menudo.uh.edu                | If it comes back, it is yours.
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:2073 soc.culture.indian:30749
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:16:44 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and Unity of India

In article <BuAn1F.J74@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
(C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) says:

>         It's true Sanskrit has a considerable literature but so does an
>         equally ancient language with matching richness, namely Tamil. All
>         the modern Indian languages I believe are more closely based on
>         Tamil syntax than Sanskrit ( please correct me if I am wrong).
>         Since syntax is a more deeply related to the inner life-current
>         of a language it might not be incorrect to say almost all
>         Indian languages have a deeper connection to Tamil than to
>         Sanskrit although there is a heavy borrowing of Indo-Aryan words
>         in Hindi and other such languages. I might be able to show that
>         there were still numerous native ( which appears to be
>         Tamil/Dravidian) words left in tact in Hindi-Bengali-Marathi-
>         Oriya-Punjabi-Gujarathi...etc. inspite of the influx of Indo-Aryan
>         words if time permits on another occasion.


This is interesting, because recently a debate ensued (ref:
Girish Bonde posted Subhash Kak's research articles) about whether
Aryans came from outside or were original natives of India who
spread from inside out. In any case, given Aryan influence on
indus vally civilization and the attempts by Kak etc to connect
Vedic era with indus vally civilization. My question is where does
Tamil/Dravidian language/culture fit into this ? This is a significant
aspect of the whole picture because BJP ruled UP and MP states have
already introduced in their history books: that Aryans were original
natives of India. Are we seeing another north/south problem here ?


regards..          Deepak



Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:2217 soc.culture.indian:31275
From: mani@clove.Berkeley.EDU (Mani Varadarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: The Mahabharata on Slavery
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:29:13 GMT
Reply-To: mani@sprite.Berkeley.EDU
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: clove.berkeley.edu


Continuing my series of excerpts from the Mokshadharma section
of the Shanti Parva of the Mahabharta, which appears as a
dialogue between Bhishma and Yudhisthira, I present the views
of the wise householder Tuladhara on slavery and non-injury.

This is XII.262 in P.C. Ray's translation.  The numbering of
Sukhtankar's critical edition will differ slightly.

------------------------

Tuladhara said:
Why do you not consume them that emasculate bulls and bore
their noses and cause them to bear heavy burdens and bind them
and put them under diverse kinds of restraint,

and those that eat the flesh of living creatures after killing
them? Men are seen to own men as slaves,

and by beating, by binding, and by otherwise subjecting them to
restraints, force them to toil day and night.  These people are
not unaware of the pain that results from beating ahd chains.

In every creature that is endued with the five senses live all
the deities---Surya, Chandramas, the god of wind, Brahman,
Prana, Kratu, and Yama.

There are men that live by trafficking in living beings! When
they earn a living by such a sinful course, what scruples need
they feel in selling dead carcasses?  The goat is Agni.  The
sheep is Varuna.  The horse is Surya.  Earth is the god Virat.

The cow and the calf are Soma.  The man who sells these can
never obtain success.  But what fault can come from the sale of
oil, of ghrita, honey, or drugs, O twice-born one?

There are many animals that grow up in ease and comfort in
places free from gnats and biting insects.  Knowing that they
are loved dearly by their mothers, men persecute them in
diverse ways, 	[I believe this includes human beings. -- Mani]

and lead them into miry spots abounding with biting insects.
Many animals are oppressed with heavy burdens.  Others are made
to languish in consequence of treatment not sanctioned by the
scriptures.

[...]

These, O Jajali, are some of the wicked and dreadful practices
that are current in the world.  You practice them because they
have been practiced by men from ancient times, and not because
they agree with the dictates of your purified understanding.

One should practice what one considers to be one's duty, guided
by reason, instead of blindly following the practices of the
world.  Listen now, O Jajali, as to what my behavior is towards
him that injures and him that praises me.

I regard both of them in the same light.  I have none whom I
like and none whom I dislike.  The wise applauded such a course
of conduct as consistent with dharma.

-----------------------------

There's a lot more here, but due to time constraints, I've cut
down my excerpt.  I'll post more later.

Yours in Peace,
Mani
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: silampu-kaNNaki
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:59:26 GMT

In <kat.716419640@riker> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:


  Some corrections: 

>kOvalan left kaNNagi for maathavi. iLango describes the
>state of kaNNaki. Very
>beautiful poetry.
--------------------
>"amsenj seeRadi aNisilambu ozhiya,
> menthukil alkul mEkalai nNeengkak,
> kongkai munRil kungumam ezhuthaaL,
> mangkala aNiyin piRithuaNi makizhaaL.
-------------------------
> No anklets adorned her shapely feet. No girdle (mEkalaaparaNam) held
>in the folds of the light plain garment wrapping her hips. No kungkumam
>had been used to colour her breasts. She wore no jewels other than
>the "thaali".


>-------more silambu to continue---------


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar )
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.tamil is closed
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 20:06:04 GMT

sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
writes on alt.culture.tamil:

)   It is months since soc.culture.tamil was created
) and we believe that this time is sufficient for the
) subscribers of alt.culture.tamil or for the non-
) subscribers of alt.culture.tamil to subscribe to
) soc.culture.tamil. 

And it is a month since I sent out the 'rmgroup' message. 
Yep, Bruce Becker has recognized it... :-)  If articles keep coming in
the alt group 'rmgroup' will go straight into the bit-bucket. That is the
reason I am not posting this in the alt group. Followups to poster
if you care. 

Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.newgroup,news.admin.misc,news.groups
From: news@becker.GTS.ORG (The Society for Reviling ATnT)
Subject: Another listing of newsgroups in the "alt" Usenet hierarchy
Followup-To: alt.newgroup,alt.config
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 08:46:49 GMT

...
alt.culture.tamil               =soc.culture.tamil
...

)   A `rmgroup' message to close alt.culture.tamil was
) sent today and alt.culture.tamil is defunct now.

alt and defunct... That is a perfect example of an oxymoron.

)                                          S.Pandian

Sridhar.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan)
Subject: Re: in time..
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:25:22 GMT

In article <4efjjzO00VIB05IkkS@andrew.cmu.edu> Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Are there any BJP nuts using this forum to pour their
>Aryan/Vedas/Hinduis thought? 
>
>I get the feeling that there are some. How did BJP obtain ardent 'followers'
>from the Tamil heartland? It's insulting! Enough said.
>
>puRratchi maNnan
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I thought you used to be Puratchi Manithan.
You have granted yourself a promotion, I guess :-)

I think you are right about the "enough said" part.

-- rst


From: jawahar@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jawahar (HP India))
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:32:49 GMT
Subject: Re: Literary Awards in Tamil (was Re: What is Literature)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil



As a rare thing to happen, though belatedly, 1990 Sahithya Academy went to
( '90 or 89 ?) La.Sa.Ra for the excellent work titled 'Sinda Nadhi'.
This is a collection of author's superb writings about life in general
and his life. This appeared in Dinamani Kadir during 1984-85 and then 
was published as a book by Einthinai Padippagam, Madras.
It's a excellent example of author's way of writing. 
If you like his books, you should also read his short stories collections 
'Uttarayanam',  'Putru', "Dvani','Ganga','Par kadal' and the novel, 'Kazhugu'
(latest). His style is very different and very strong.

Of course, 'Thi.Ja.Ra's ' Amma Vandhaal' and 'Moga Mul' are the most
nostalgic novels in my memory for his narration of Cauvery, Kumbakonam,
Old times ... Even the dust, ('Puzhudi') of Kumbakonam roads 
assumes a sweetness which is difficult to put in words.And the relationships he
describes. Reading Thi.Ja.Ra is like seeing Indu, Jamuna and Karur in person.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: "mEsaimIthu virus"
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 18:10:09 GMT

\(TAMIL)
         thaNGka nilavukkuL nilavonRu malarukkuL malar
         inRu vanthathE....
         enthan kanavukkuL kanavonRu ninaivukkuL sukamonRu
         thanthathE
         kodi mullai kodi kaddum mannanO
         inpas siRai paddu thiraiyidda kaNNanO
         kodi mullai kodi kaddum mannanO
         inpas siRai paddu thiraiyidda kaNNanO
         nilavukkuL vaNNa malarukkuL
         thaNGka nilavukkuL nilavonRu malarukkuL malar
         inRu vanthathE....
         enthan kanavukkuL kanavonRu ninaivukkuL sukamonRu
         thanthathE

         mutthukkaL koddiya nadsatthiram
         antha nadsatthiram en pakkam varum
         vitthukkaL kaddiya mutthussaram
         en pakkam vanthu pon muttham tharum
         oru mutthu thaan udai paddu thaan
         poovaay maaRum
         athai thoddutthaan aNaikadditthaan
         paadum raakam
         vaNNas silaipeRRuttharum anpus sinnakkiLi
         kalai kaRRuttharum antha vaNNakkiLi
         sinthidaamal vanthathEnE sonthamaanEn naan
         nilavukkuL vaNNa malarukkuL
         thaNGka nilavukkuL nilavonRu malarukkuL malar
         inRu vanthathE....
         enthan kanavukkuL kanavonRu ninaivukkuL sukamonRu
         thanthathE \(ROMAN)

(course) \(TAMIL)
         intha poovaikku poo vaitthu soodidum maamanukku
         nalla thOkaiyin thOkaiyil sokkidum maamanukku
(peN)    poonchirippu \(ROMAN)
(course) \(TAMIL)
         anpiRku paNpiRku AL vara pOkuthu
         ammaa en appaa enRu AddidappOkuthu
(peN)    sirippu

         vedkatthil minnidum thaNGkakkudam
         athu thodduttharum mun sorkkam varum
         kaRpanai kaddiya mullaissaram
         enai kaddikkoLLa than kaiyai tharum
         pala vaNNam thaan oru eNNam thaan
         paalaay URum
         oru sellam thaan ivan selvam thaan
         naaLai thOnRum
         kannam thamizhs sinnam pala enRu eNNittharum
         innum pala inpaNGkaLai sollittharum
         mutthumaalai nittham pOda
         sitthamaanEn naan
         nilavukkuL vaNNa malarukkuL
         thaNGka nilavukkuL nilavonRu malarukkuL malar
         inRu vanthathE....
         enthan kanavukkuL kanavonRu ninaivukkuL sukamonRu
         thanthathE
         kodi mullai kodi kaddum mannanO
         inpas siRai paddu thiraiyidda kaNNanO
         kodi mullai kodi kaddum mannanO
         inpas siRai paddu thiraiyidda kaNNanO
         nilavukkuL vaNNa malarukkuL
         thaNGka nilavukkuL nilavonRu malarukkuL malar
         inRu vanthathE....
         enthan kanavukkuL kanavonRu ninaivukkuL sukamonRu
         thanthathE
From: kamlesh@gemini.csd.sgi.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Matrimonial
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:19:55 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


(posted for a friend, please call him directly, thanks.)

  
    Alliance sought for 30 year, 5ft 9in, Kousika Iyer, computer
    proffessional in Silicon Valley, from Iyer girls aged 23-27. 
    
    Call Ashok at 408-253-6245 for further details.
   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: i am married with a brahmin
Followup-To: m
Keywords: fuck
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 15:29:16 GMT
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: News from News India
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:10:13 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


DMK disowns LTTE : DMK president MK told that his party and himself will no
longer support LTTE

Switzerland wants to send tamil asylum seekers from sri-lanka back to their
country

RT
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Tastelessness or sheer hypocrisy
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:14:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8eessGi00WBL42anY=
	<1992Aug31.222434.17752@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I thought McCarthysm is exactly what's been practiced now!

Or am I just in the twilight zone? Such gullible characters from Tamil Naadu.
I bet they chant 'Ammah...Oh eN purRatchi thalLavi' behind Jeyalalitha
Inc., all
day long. 

This is what we can excpept from the so called 'intellectuals' from
Tamil Naadu?
If the 'intellectuals' have condescended into this 'level' of thought,'
what can be said of the un-educated mass? 

Remember: what goes around always comes around. All of you can learn a
bit from the Jewish history!

Suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: anupoothi-murugan
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:21:56 GMT


---------------------------------------------------------
 I am skipping some. Someday, I hope I will have time for all of them. 
anupoothi-19

vadivum thanamum manamum kuNamum
kudiyum kulamum kudi pOkiyavaa;
adiyanthamilaa ayilvEl arasE!
midiyendRu oru paavi veLippadinE!

  If spiritual poverty (midi), the sinner (paavi), manifests in someone, O
Emperor of Sharp vEl, the adiyanthamilaa(one who does
not have a beginning and an end)! Beauty(vadivu), wealth
(thanam), good mind(manam), character (kuNam), good lineage
and family prestige depart.
      

anban,

Kathiravan.
From: ksivasam@ha02.eng.ua.edu (Kalidoss Sivasamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: (none)
Date: 12 Sep 1992 11:41:05 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>> From: paranand@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (murahi paranandi)
>> Subject: Re: Telugu and Tamil

>> In "Maro Charitra", Sarita's (telugu) mother and Kamal Hasan's father have
>> a fight over some smell of cooking non-vegitarian food or something like that.
>> Sarita's mother goes:
>>	"Veellanthenandi, Aravvallu... Aravam Aravam Antune Arustuntaru!"  

>> If I remember it right, dialogues were by Ganesh Patro.

   I also would've enjoyed this joke, if you'd given a translation.


Kalidoss.
ksivasam@buster.eng.ua.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: parallels - TN reservation and Sri Lankan Situation
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:10:56 GMT

 nam ramanukku solvathu ondRE ondRu:
  He was equating the status of brahmins in TN and tamils in SL.

     The difference between Srilanka and Tamil Nadu is:

1.  A Brahmin J is ruling Tamil Nadu while the SL Tamils have no
 equal rights.


2. Yes, somebody cut the poonools of Brahmin's but JJ kills
 100's of tamils in maakam.
 Cutting poonool is not condoned, but there is nothing equal
to killing people.`


     Raman threatens and appeals for arms for Brahmins.

    What will he do to paarathiyaar and his kin if
he knows that paarathi told
"paapanai iyer yendRak kaalamum pOchchE"

Times of calling Brahmins, Iyer have gone.
   "piLLaikku poonoolaam yenpaan
    pichchup paNang kodu yenath thinpaan
    pEraasaik kaaranadaap paarppaan
    periya thurai yenil udal vErppaan"

 He (brahmin) will say "poonool"
 He will bug you for money
 He isa  greedy chap
 He will sweat in front of the white man.

Kathiravan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: cs_nlg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Find this Kural.... !!!!!!!?
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:46:27 GMT
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

Hello !Friends !

	I was wondering if anyone would help me, figure out the full form of
the following Kural........ which ends as follows....

	........Pai ena peyyium malaizh.


Thanks.


Nandri.....

Raj...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sundar@clarinet.cis.ohio-state.edu (N Sundar)
Subject: An irrational response
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:56:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.172955.14867@b30.ingr.com>, Shiva Shivakumar
(shiva@b30.ingr.com) writes:

> Che che! How can you say that ? You should be put in an I-RUN cage and placed
> in a JOO. ..)

In the absence of a proper smiley, I am going to assume you are deficient in
spelling.


>> Intolerance, lack of knowledge and perspective, sinking
>>deep in the well of dogmatic hatred caused by inferiority
>>complex etc.
>>
>>Kathiravan

> Do you know that the Telugu word for Tamizh is "aravam" meaning "unmusical".
> Contrast this with Baaradhiyaar's "Sundara telungu".

This clearly makes the point that tamils are more tolerant than a 
'Telungu' like you. (Note: I intentionally did not write Telugu.)

There is a saying in Tamil:
  Aathirakkaaranukku budhdhi mattu
i.e. an angry man is deficient in logic.

> Jagadisan Shivakumarulu

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