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From: brian@Novell.COM (Brian Meek)
Subject: Re: LAN support over ODI?
Summary: IBM does not support Token-Ring via NDIS on DOS
Keywords: LAN Support NDIS ODI Ethernet
Organization: Connectivity Products Group -- Novell, Inc
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:15:42 GMT

In article <92224.180303RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> RBYAML@rohvm1.
rohmhaas.com (Aengus Lawlor) writes:>From: RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (
Aengus Lawlor)>Subject: LAN support over ODI?
>Date: 11 Aug 92 22:03:03 GMT
>I have some clients who are currently using the IBM LAN support ethernet
>drivers for Novell, so that they can access PC/Support and Novell at the
>same time.
>
>They have been told that they must use ETHERNET_802.2 frame types to use this
>configuration (presumably because the DX drivers use 802.2 headers).
>
>I seem to remember some discussion about using ODI and the TOKEN driver
>so that PC/Support would use ODI, and IPXODI could be configured with
>any valid frame type. This had the advantage of speeding up IPX, without
>noticeable affecting PCSupport.
>
>BUT! I can't remember whether this applied to ethernet or Token Ring
>networks, and I can't remember the order in which the drivers were loaded,
>and I don't really understand what role the various DX* drivers play in
>PC/Support.

The discussion was regarding the use of IBM's NDIS version of LAN Support
running over ODINSUP on Ethernet (IBM has not, to my knowledge, built
802.5 support into their NDIS version of LAN Support yet).  If you're in
need of LAN Support on Token-Ring... You'll need to use LANSUP.COM for 
support of Novell IPX or TCP/IP implementations.

>(The reason I need to work on this is that right now we have a 3.11 server
>with 1 TR and 1 EtherNet card. The Ethernet card has 2 logical IPX nets,
>one 802.2, one ENET_II, and workstations of either flavour can see all the
>servers on the TR because that servers acts as a bridge/router (??). At some
>point, that routing function will be taken over by a WellFleet router, but
>it's only going to do one flavour of Ethernet IPX. We need Ethernet_II for
>Netware for VMS (now FSS from Interconnections) and the only reason for 802.2
>is PC/Support. If I'm correct in my recollection that I don't have to use the
>LANSUP driver, then my recommendation will be straightforward. Unless one of
>you people know something I'm missing.....)

You seem to be clear on the concept...  replace the native NDIS drivers
on your Ethernet nodes with ODI drivers along with ODINSUP to service
LAN Support as needed.  IPX can then use any frame format you desire.

-- brian

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Brian Meek                      Novell, Inc. -- Connectivity Products Group
                                Internet mail:  brian@Novell.COM
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:32:18 PDT
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From:         Art Schoenstadt <0085P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: router error message
              20 Aug 1992 10:43:34 +1000 from <B.Downes@EDN.GU.EDU.AU>

John -

     We had a similar problem with a Cisco router. I believe it was
due to the setting of the internal LAN number on the file server. To
cure it (in NW 2.12) we had to modify NET$OS (although in NW 3.11
I believe you can just fix the AUTOEXEC.NCF file.) Check the NW286
Maintenance Manual for specifics.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:43:34 EST
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From:         Bill Swartz <bill@PICASSO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Command Line Password
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              business" at Aug 13, 92 4:17 pm

>
>         A quick, simple question :
>
>             Can I specify an account name AND a password on the command line
>             when logging into a Novell (v. 3.11) server.  Basically, can I
>             do the following :
>
>                 LOGIN <SERVER>/<ACCT.NAME> <PASSWORD>           (or similar)
>
>         Thanks....
>
>         R. Scott Krick
>         Computer Based Instruction Lab
>         Medical College of Va.
>         RKRICK@RUBY.VCU.EDU
>         SUPERVIS@PCMAIL.CBIL.VCU.EDU
>
  You can't specify the password, but you can pipe the contents of a file into
  it.  You put the password in the text file.  As in:
          LOGIN SERVER/USER < C:\PASSFILE.TXT

  where PASSFILE.TXT contains the password.  At least this use to work.  I don't
  quite understand why they do it this way.  HTH!

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From:         TONY D'AGOSTINO <TONYD@YUORION.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LWP

Greetings...


Speaking of Lan WorkPlace, does anyone know of a font that the Windows
implementation of Lan WorkPlace can use that will work properly with
WordPerfect Office and SAS on a Vax?  The ones that come with LWP seem to
screw up the menus that each of these applications have.  Kermit and the
DOS version of Lan WorkPlace (ie. TNVT220) do not have these problems.  I
have tried some of the Exceedw X-Windows fonts and they are a little better
but they too aren't perfect.

Thanks

Tony D'Agostino
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From:         DYCUS@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
Subject:      Telnet for OS/2 Token Ring and Dos Token Ring.
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

Is NCSA Telnet Available for OS/2 ver 2 for token ring?
If not are there any commercial products?

What is available for Token Ring DOS machines for Telnet?

Please Respond Directly to me at Dycus@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu

Thanks


Mark Dycus
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From:         DAVID CHAPMAN <ZN0CHAPMAN@NCTAMSLANT.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      IPX, TRN, and Fast Bus Speeds
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Not too long ago, I thought I saw a msg concerning TRN and PCs with faster
bus speeds AND that a new IPX may be available.  We're using IPX 3.10 and
IBM Token Ring driver 2.63.

Basically, the problem is this: we're receiving a bunch of new PCs that are
bus speed selectable; you can set the speed to 4, 5, 6, 8, 12, and 16 MHz.
Given the current IPX, we can only load at 6 MHz (otherwise it doesn't
load at all or we can a "Shared Memory Boundary" error).  However, our Madge
cards work at any of the faster speeds...

To complicate matters, the book says the system default is 6 MHz (which is
fine), but the factory ships these things at 8 MHz (not so fine).

Is there a solution for IBM TRN cards for PCs with faster bus speeds?

Jeez, I've got 486/33 servers and thank heavens I didn't have any problems
with them!

David Chapman
zn0chapman@nctamslant.navy.mil
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From:         CS06999 <CS06999@MONTCOLC.BITNET>
Subject:      HELP how do I get off of the PMAIL list?????

help,

I've been subscribed to it for soooooo long that when it came time
for me to change account numbers I can't find the documentation for
subscribing and unsubscribing from the PMAIL list.

Can anyone help please???

ricks@montcola
Montgomery College
Marylands Largest Community College (now with capped enrollment!)
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:37:42 EST
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From:         JAY SISSOM <JSISSOM@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ODI (or any other setup) for 3C501 in IBM PC
              13 Aug 1992 14:58:36 EDT from <steveq@UMBC3.UMBC.E DU>

We have had some 3c501 cards on our network.  One day, we ran the Sniffer
on the network for 24 hours.  We found out that most network cards
generated 0 - 10 bad packets during that time.  The three 3c501 cards
generated over 800 bad packets.  We are removing them from the network.
The problem with 3c501 cards is they cannot send and receive at the same
time.  They have a one packet buffer.  I would suggest upgrading to
3c503's or some other newer card.

I have made ODI work with 3c501 cards.  What might be the problem with
your NET.CFG is that there is no port 300 line after the Link Driver.

For example, It should probably be:

Link Driver 3c501
   int 3
   port 300
   frame ETHERNET_II

I don't think the buffers or the other information you had above
the Link Driver statement matter in this case.

Jay Sissom
Indiana University Department of Medicine
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From:         "Bob Smith,
              Kent State - East Liverpool Campus" <BSMITH@KENTELIV.BITNET>
Subject:      Looking for TeX

Hello All!

Looking for a PC version of "TeX", a math word processor.  I was told
there's supposed to be a PD or shareware version.

Anybody seen 1?

Thx,

Bob
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From:         $DAVEE@SASB.BYU.EDU
Subject:      Re: lastest rev of Rprinter
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We have had experience that if we do not put SPX CONNECTIONS=60 in
out net.cfg it will hang our rprinters about once a day or more.

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From:         GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Charon 2.0a

Have you done `set allow unencrypted passwords=on' at the FS console? Charon
2.0a, as a pre-Netware 386 program, needs to login using clear-text passwords.
Netware 386 needs to be specifically instructed to allow this. Charon 3.4, the
mail gateway does not have this problem.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.aub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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From:         GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Updating Network Drivers

If you have NW 3.11 you have the `wsupdate' program on one of those disks
which will do the updating you want - see the `Utilities' manual, pp 515-19.

I prefer to keep all stations concurrent vis-a-vis shell software: it saves
weird failures/lockups/error messages from rival versions of programs clashing.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 11:42:29 PDT
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From:         Bob Lombard <ucsd!ncr-sd!rancho!cruiser!bdl@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Email Help
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Hello all,

I'd like to tap the collective wisdom of this maillist for info on
a couple of problems Im sure have been solved many times over.

Problem 1... I need to figure out a way to get email from my companies
3.11 lan into the Internet.  I can arrange the feed, etc,  but am
ignorant in terms of the best software approach.

Problem 2... Currently the net consists of assorted 286/386 PC's
and assorted MAC'S, some running System 6.07, others running 7.
We run DaVinci Email with MHS.  Since Davinci currently only supports
Sys 6 on the MACs, about half of my MAC users have no email services.

I'd like to kill these two problems with the same email package if I
can. I've seen references to Pegasus/Pmail/Charon in this group.
Would one of these help ?

To summarize:

 1. What's your reccomended Email software to support the mixed PC/MAC
    family, & possibly a few Unix boxes later ?

 2. What's the reccomended software solution/configuration to provide
    an Internet connection ?

 3. Am I nuts? (No answer required.)

I'll collect and summarize email responses and or replies posted here.

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:03:58 EDT
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      RE: MHS Not Dropping Modem Connections
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FORWARDED MESSAGE from Gerry Schenk (MAIL @ CSERVE
{INTERNET:gschenk@VIDEO.ROGERS.COM}) at 8/17/92 8:22p

From: Gerry Schenk <gschenk@VIDEO.ROGERS.COM>
Subject:      MHS Not Dropping Modem Connections

Has anyone experienced any difficulties with MHS V1.5 or MHS V1.11
completing a call, but the modem is not dropping the connection?  I have
experienced 3 incidences of this so far, costing our company over $1000 on
unnecessary long distance charges.

Today,  I noticed on one of our dial in MHS PCs, that no site has been able
to dial into it for the last 10 days, but the modem is lit up and MHS
doesn't seem to recognize that there is some type of connection underway.
The last entry on the screen, has a partial completion listed.

The following is a typical setup,

For Dial-in:   3 XTs on a 3 line overline using MHS V1.5 with Sportster 2400
               modems from US Robotics.  MHS is setup up to use 2400BHUB.

For Dial-out:  XTs using MHS V1.11 with Sportster 2400 or Practical
               Peripherals 2400.  MHS is setup to use 2400B.

The MHS is the network version, and is being run on Novell Lans.  The modems
are basically factory settings (DTR setting has not been modified).

This is problem has me very concerned, in that I have 15 lines for dial in,
and over 80 hosts connecting to these lines.  We transfer megabytes worth of
data over these lines, everyday.  Has anyone got any suggestions on how to
avoid this in the future.  Does anyone know if MHS V2.0, monitors the serial
port more effectively, to prevent this scenario from happening?  Any help
would be greatly appreicated.

->Gerry Schenk
***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 8/18/92 10:41a
Hi Gerry,

This is a problem that occurs somewhat frequently with MHS 1.5.

Try going into the 2400BHUB.DEF file with a hex editor and changing &D3 to
&D2.  Consult your modem's documentation and pay particular attention
to the DTR options, like the &D commands and any pertinent switch
settings.  I'd also suggest that you try the HAYES-UN driver instead,
which seems to work a little better with different modem types.

Also, if you are currently running MHS 1.5 Rev A...run to NOVLIB Library 6
on CompuServe/NetWire or the FTP mirror sites to get the MHS 1.5 Rev B
updates.  The filename for the network version is V15B_N.ZIP, and
V15B_P.ZIP for the personal version.  Rev B fixes some problems with modem
handling in Rev A.

As for MHS 2.0...it's probably too early to say, but one problem that you
may run into is that MHS 2.0 may not support dial-ins from MHS 1.1.  I
hope it does, but I haven't seen a clear indication that it will yet.

- Brett (Infinite Technologies)
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From: mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell, CS Staf)
Subject: networld dallas? when?
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:37:27 GMT

When and where is Networld in Dallas this fall?

I have no info but would like to attend.
mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell, CS Staf)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
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From: ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: Re: Packet Driver Problem
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: fb20
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:58:36 GMT

Maurice Rich <M.Rich@ITC.GU.EDU.AU> writes:

>Undetermined origin c/o Postmaster
>>
>> I'm attempting to install the packet driver interface on a NE2000 card.
>> Commands are as follows:
>>
>> ne2000 -n 0x60 0x03 0x300     -  Loads without any error messages
>
>	 ^^  scrap this and try again.  If you use boot proms, you may need
>	 -d  ...
>
>> ipx                           -  BYU ipx for packet drivers.  Also loads
>>                                  fine.
>> netx /ps=dp2        ** Gives the message "A file server cannot be found"
>>
>> Running the normal ipx (i.e. without packet drivers ) and the same
>> netx command works fine.
>>
A problem with the BYU packet driver seems to be also, that it can't do SPX
across routers.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:32:32 -0400
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From:         Kristen Anne Pribis <pribik@RPI.EDU>
Subject:      Netware Lite 1.1
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

Quick question...Has anybody seen the upgrade yet?  Is it available on
C-serve yet?  Will it be posted to the novell ftp server?  Any info
with dates would be great.  Thanks in advance...

Kristen Pribis
Director of Network Services
Albany Computerworks
pribik@rpi.edu
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From:         Sue McFarland <MCFARLAND@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      interpret an ABEND Error message

My server crashed today with the error message:

   ABEND:  General Protection Exception (error 00000000 )
   Running Process:  Server 02 process

How can I interpret this error message?  The System Messages
documentation told me little.

Any suggestions gladly welcomed,
Sue

P.S.  Rebooting brings the server back up on its feet!
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:52:00 -0400
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From:         John Rutherford/Faculty Computing Center
              <RUTHERFORD@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject:      router error message
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We have a novell 2.2 lan in our library. Until a few days ago the building
ethernet has not been connected to the campus ethernet (predominately DEC
DECNET, LAT, and TCP/IP traffic). We just connected it through a fiber
repeator to the rest of the network. Now the server console periodically
shows the error message:

router 02608C0B49EF claims lan A is 0000AA1

Help.  There are no routers in the library (that I am aware of).  There is a
router for our Internet connection, and possibly a VAX acting as a router
out there somewhere.

Is this a major problem. Can it be cured on the Novell side?

Thanks,

John Rutherford
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:18:24 CDT
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From:         randy eliason <reliason@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LAN Support Staff Survey

250 nodes on 17 486 servers

3 support personel
  1 hardware
  1 PBX/Server
  1 User Support/ Lan Manager

Randy Eliason, Lan Manager
Peed Corp.
reliason@unlinfo.unl.edu
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From: dletcher@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Drew Letcher)
Subject: Re: ODI (or any other setup) for 3C501 in IBM PC
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:47:45 GMT

3C501 cards in 4.77Mhz PCs will NOT work with Netware 3.11 servers.

The cards have no buffers and lose too many packets.  The cards will work
in AT (6Mhz 80286) or faster PCs.  Your options are to buy new cards, new
PCs, or drop back down to Netware 2.15.  I'm not sure about Netware 2.2.

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