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From: KESSELMAN@ZODIAC.BITNET (Marty Kesselman)
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Subject: LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE AWARD
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:42:21 GMT
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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NOMINATIONS SOUGHT -- ALA/MECKLER LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE AWARD

(Note: This announcement has been cross-posted to several Listservs).

The purpose of the award is to honor an individual library, library
consortium, group of librarians, or support organization for innovative
planning for, applications of, or development of patron training
programs about information technology in a library setting.  1993 is the
first year this award will be presented.  There will be one award
consisting of a $2500 honorarium and a plaque.

Candidates will be evaluated on one or more of the following criteria:
*benefit of innovation/use of technology to clients served;
*benefit of innovation/use to technology information community;
*impact of innovation/use of library operations;
*public relations value;
*impact of innovation/use on perception of the library/librarian in the
work setting and to the specialized and/or general public.

DEADLINE IS DECEMBER 1, 1992

Send SIX copies of nominations and any supporting materials to:
Martin Kesselman, Chair, ALA/Meckler Library of The Future Award Comm.
at the address below.





Marty Kesselman
Head of Reference and Instructional Services
Rutgers University Library of Science and Medicine
P.O. Box 1029
Piscataway, New Jersey 08855

908-932-3850 office
908-932-3208 fax
908-247-5662 home
kesselman@zodiac.rutgers.edu
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:06:08 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Re: Last Comments on Lurkers

Oh, come, come. . .let's not be so pithy.

There is a perfectly good English term for those who watch and listen
but do not participate, and while it is not the most wonderful of the
words in the English language, it is fairly beautiful. . .

wallflowers.

That should not have quite the negative connotations, denotations, or
whatever that "lurkers" had, and might encourage more to come in, and
join the dance, much as the power elite users might prefer them to do
otherwise.

I strenuously object to the comments labeled as the:

Last Comments on Lurkers

and I assure you that they were NOT the last.

I would like to see a "Wallflowers Week" be a part of the agenda for
the year on each of the lists I participate in, and further warn you

"If You Don't Defend The Networks, Who Will?"

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
From: GHERMAN@VTVM1.BITNET (Paul Gherman)
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Subject: Re: Library Use of Net-based Documents
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:11:33 GMT
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Obviously we need both local and remote storage, with the most used items
on local storage.  Michael S. Hart
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Michael Strangelove's question about how libraries will handle the growing
amount of e-literature on the net seems antisipate the wrong answer. The
growing amount of literature on the net should be available to users directly
via the net and not through intermediaries. What we need to concentrate on
is creating electronic finding aids that the net user can find these sources
and access them and print them out at their own work-station. Libraries
have not delt with this "gray literature" in the past, and I doubt that they
will in the future. Instead we need to concentrate on the "meta-structure of
information" in the future.
The American Physical Society suggested over a year ago that they might
create the National Physics database with all physics literature. A similar
model could be envisioned for other disiplines. Why not a religion database
where this gray literature on religion is cumulated or atleast indexed and
abstracted with pointers to the location on the net.
If we are to create the virtual library, we need to change our thinking
from locally created finding aids, to the virtual access mechanism which
takes the user to the e-source. The problem is that we do not have
institutions whose mission it is to create these new mechanisms on a national
or international level. Our libraries see their mission as creating local
access to local ownership, instead we need to direct our energies to creating
a new meta-structure of information which will probably be disipline oriented.


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Subject:      Extract 1.4 and HDM
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From: Abbie Basile <USERGFZV%UMICHUM.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:  Extract 1.4 and HDM
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I have just brought up version 1.4 of Extract and used it successfully with
the STF1A and 3A CDs.  Unfortunately, I can only get it to run when I
execute the batch file (extract.exe) from the c: .  In our library, we
use the HDM (Hard Disk Menu) software for all our CD stations.

When I try to run 1.4 from the HDM screen, I get the following message:

       proc drivesel line 313   open error   selex.dbf

I was running version 1.3 from the HDM without any problems.  Does anyone
have 1.4 up and running with the Hard Disk Menu software?  I would
appreciate any comments or suggestions on this matter.

NOTE:  I am not a subscriber to this list, so please send comments
       directly to me.  THANKS!

Abbie Basile
Online Search Services Coordinator
Graduate Library
Univ. of Michigan
abbie.basile@um.cc.umich.edu
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 10:41:15 GMT
From:         "(Duncan Aldrich)" <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>
Subject:      census offer
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From: "Joel"  <ZUCKJOEL@ol.isu.edu>
Organization: Idaho State University
Date:         6 Nov 92 10:47:49 MDT
Subject:      census offer
Reply-To: zuckjoel@ux1.isu.edu
Priority:     normal
X-Mailer:     Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4).

we got mailed an extra copy of the 1990 census volume

Michigan / General Population Characteristics / CP-1-24

first come, first serve, you only need to re-imburse us for
postage....call Marianne Hill at 208 236-2940 (I won't be on e-mail
for a few days)

Joel
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+  Joel Zucker                      +
+  Head of Government Publications  +
+  Eli M. Oboler Library            +
+  Idaho State University           +
+  Pocatello  ID  83209-8089        +
+  208 236-3045                     +
+  zuckjoel@isu.edu                 +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:47:25 GMT
From:         "(Duncan Aldrich)" <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>
Subject:      Plum Book
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From: q21033@n1.usna.navy.mil (Genevieve Clemens)
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Date: 09 Nov 92 17:28
Subject: Plum Book

The Plum Book is being published this year by the Senate
Committee on Governmental Affairs.  A staffer there told me it
was being printed today (9 Nov.) and they should have copies of
it tomorrow.  In 1988 the Plum Book was also printed on 9
November, my depository copy is stamped 22 November, which is
pretty impressive for GPO.  For those who can't wait, or who want
extra copies, the Committee will mail you a copy.  Call them at
202-224-4751.

  --------------------------------------------------------------
   Genevieve Clemens       Internet: q21033@n1.usna.navy.mil
   Documents Librarian     Phone:    (410) 267-2232
   U.S. Naval Academy      Fax:      (410) 267-3669
                           Mail:     Nimitz Library
                                     589 McNair Road
       BEAT ARMY!!                   U.S. Naval Academy
                                     Annapolis, MD  21402-5029
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Subject:      request for info
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From: "Stephen M. Hayes (219) 239-5268"
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Subject: request for info

Notre Dame is in the process of testing the Marcive tape.  We
are attempting to "Load" the records in so that the latest (i.e.
newest) SuDoc number is listed as the first call number , with
the earlier SuDoc numbers comming next.  If any library has been
successful in getting their NOTIS system to load these correctly,
would you please contact me.

Stephen.M.Hayes.2@nd.edu
voice 219-239-5268
thanks
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:51:20 GMT
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Subject:      offer CPH-1-16
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From: asevetso@library.Berkeley.EDU (Andrea Sevetson)
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We have a duplicate of the Summary Pop & Hsng Characteristics, Indiana.
(CPH-1-16) to offer.

Andrea Sevetson
Rm 350 Library
University of California, Berkeley
asevetso@library.berkeley.edu
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:02:43 GMT
From:         "(Duncan Aldrich)" <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>
Subject:      missing an STF3A
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 16:52:54 -0800
From: lopresti robert <lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
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Subject: missing an STF3A


Did anyone get an extra copy of C3.282/2:CD90-3-A-26?  That
is STF3A for Massachusetts and New Hampshire.  Ours did not arrive.

Please respond if you have one available.  Thanks.

MY OPINIONS AND NO ONE ELSE'S......................................
Robert Lopresti         Bob Franke's advice on surviving a midlife crisis:
Wilson Library                  "Buy the leather jacket, but not
Western Washington U.                   the motorcycle."
Bellingham, WA 98225-9103                          lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu
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Subject:      Re: clinton e-mail
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 <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>

I wonder if this address is some sort of Bushwacking prank? On the LS2000 users
 group list (a product of OCLC) someone once suggested sending mail to one Robe
rt_Smith@OCLC.org. In fact the poster suggested that readers ask Mr.Smith to su
bscribe to and read the LS2000 group list sometimes, he might find out about so
me problems in the system. Needless to say, the mail bounced. Might Clinton-Gor
e mail go somewhere in Little Rock?.(and not MIT)
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:56:30 CST
From:         "(Duncan Aldrich)" <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>
Subject:      EPA bibliography sighting

I called the EPA library at Research Triangle Park, NC, today.  They have three
1992 issues, Jan.-March, April-June, and July-Sept. 1992 of the _EPA
bibliography_.  The title is being published on schedule; depositories just
aren't getting them.

I have a vague recollection from some months ago to the effect that GPO was
spending such large amounts of person-power shoveling microfiche out to us,
that they were beginning to accumulate a backlog of PAPER titles to distribute.
 Maybe that's where the _EPA bibliography_, and other serial titles issues,
are?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:01:53 GMT
From:         "(Duncan Aldrich)" <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>
Subject:      Foreign Relations, vol 7
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Subject:  Foreign Relations, vol 7
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Thanks for all the offers in reponse to our request
for Foreig4nn Relations of the United States 1955-1957
vol 7.  And a special thanks to Clark McLean, University
of New Mexico for sending us his second copy.

Carolyn McFarland
cmcfarla@rollins.bitnet
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:41:29 CST
From:         James McDonough <epin@access.digex.com>
Subject:      Zagami

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Anthony J. Zagami, General Counsel of the Government Printing
Office, reports that he is making a bid for the position of Public
Printer. Among other things, the library community knows him as the
author of the May 22, 1989 legal memorandum supporting an expansive
definition of government publication. Zagami held that in passing
Title 44 Congress intended the definition of government publication
to be all-encompassing, no matter the format. ALA President Marilyn
L. Miller cited the Zagami memorandum in her comments on the
revision of Circular A-130 to refute OMB's restricted definition of
a government publication. OMB wanted a narrow definition to justify
withholding information in electronic format from the Depository
Library Program, if the agencies faced budgetary limitations.

Zagami told EPIN he is looking for support for his bid from the
library community, organized labor, the printing trade, and from
members of the Joint Committee on Printing, where he worked from
1981-90.

If he wins the nomination, he would be the third JCP staff member
to become Public Printer. The two former Public Printers, who came
from the JCP were Henry Carter (1920s) and James Harris (1960s).
The law establishing the General Printing Office stipulates that
the Public Printer must come from the printing profession. Zagami
said, however, that in 1924 at the time of Carter's nomination the
Justice Department ruled that experience on the JCP fulfilled the
practical experience requirement.

James McDonough
Editor, Electronic Public Information Newsletter
EPIN@access.digex.com
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:01:59 CST
From:         Kay Collins <kcollins@uci.edu>
Subject:      EPA Bibliography

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
         In the past we received the EPA Bibliography in paper on a
         depository basis.  We did not have to pay NTIS prices for it.
         Because money is not flowing like water here in California,
         we will have to decide whether or not we can afford to
         provide this title to our users in paper.  To do so means not
         having the money to make other needed titles available to our
         users.   As depository libraries we are required to provide
         access to our publications.  When some of the major means of
         access are in microfiche, unfortunately, access becomes more
         limited.  It would certainly be nice if EPA reconsidered and
         made this title available to depository libraries in paper.

         Kay Collins
         University of California-Irvine
         kcollins@uci.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:03:30 GMT
From:         "(Duncan Aldrich)" <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>
Subject:      Article by Wayne Kelley, Jr.
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Folks:

There is an interesting article by Wayne Kelley, Jr., the Superintendent of
Documents of the Government Printing Office, in the magazine **Electronic
Networking** (v.2,no.2 Summer 1992, pp.50-55).

The gist is that the policy underpinnings of federal information collection,
management, and dissemination have lost focus as publishing has migrated to
electronics.  He is speculating on the future of GPO as the central player
in federal information dissemination.

duncan

  ***********************

Duncan M. Aldrich
Head, Government Publications Department
Main Library
University of Nevada, Reno
Reno, Nevada 89557-0044

(702) 784-6579
duncan@equinox.unr.edu
duncan@equinox.bitnet

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:44:21 CST
From:         dan barkley <barkley@lib.wfunet.wfu.edu>
Subject:      Marchive query

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

I've just been approached by my Asst. Dir. for Tech Svs. for some
information concerning a retrospective tape load of Marchive records and I
could use some assistance from anyone who has already been through this
experience.

We are currently receiving about 45% of items available.  That figure is
15% higher than what had been received over the past 10 years or so.  If
anyone who is approximately my size and has done a tape load I would
appreciate their help.

1.  What's the cost (always the first question asked).

2.  Amount of staff time, including tech. support, involved in tape load.

3.  Degree of difficulty of loading records, accuracy, etc. and degree of
    difficulty of matching records to collection inventory.

4.  Do I really want to experience this or should I apply for a job with
    the grounds crew?

5.  Any other tidbits I might be overlooking.

Thanks for your help.  Please respond directly to me and not the list.

Dan
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:01:49 CST
From:         CGASWICK%ALBION.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: EPA Bibliography

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

I've followed the discussion about the EPA Publications Bibliography with
interest.  I've also been wondering where it is, and like Cindi Wolff I've
had a frustrating conversation with someone in Washington.

However I think a student worker has just handed me the answer: The EPA
Publications Bibliography...Quarterly Abstract Bulletin..January-March
1992 -- in microfiche.

Carolyn Gaswick
Albion College
Albion, MI
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:02:22 GMT
From:         "(Duncan Aldrich)" <duncan@equinox.unr.edu>
Subject:      Re: separate needs/offers lists
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In response to Kathy Amen's question, yes, if a separate needs/offers list
were established, those who subscribed to both that list and to GOVDOC-L
would get the same amount of messages.  HOWEVER, those of us who chose to
subscribe only to GOVDOC-L would see a great reduction in our mail volume.

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