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From: afx@muc.ibm.de (Andreas Siegert)
Subject: Re:      on kproc (with PID 514) is always running, accumulating cputime
Reply-To: afx@ibm.de
Organization: IBM AIX Field Support Center, Munich
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:25:41 GMT

In article <199210081520.AA13155@SPARKY.CF.CS.YALE.EDU>,         "'H. Morrow Long'" <long-morrow@CS.YALE.EDU> writes:
>I have observed the following on two different RS/6000s running AIX 3.2:
>
>USER       PID %CPU %MEM   SZ  RSS    TTY STAT    STIME  TIME COMMAND
>root         0  0.2  0.0    8    8      - S      Oct 01 16:48 swapper
>root         1  0.1  1.0  248  140      - S      Oct 01 14:11 /etc/init
>root       514  0.1  0.0   12    8      - R      Dec 31 8865:30 kproc
>root       771  0.0  0.0   16   16      - S      Dec 31 15:08 kproc
>What is this kproc doing (on a completely different machine the same kprocs
>have the same pid numbers - coincidental or due the the invocation order of
>processes on the machines)?
>
>Is the cputime being accumlated by this process a problem?

The kproc with pid 514 (I have one as well) is the wait process.
The CPU has no wait instruction and is allways running.
The wait process has the lowest possible priority and runs only while your cpu
has nothing else to do. So if you have a wait process that accumulates a lot
of time you are not keeping your /6000 busy enough :-)

cheers
afx

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From: FC138001@ysub.ysu.edu (Phil Munro)
Subject: Re: Telnet question
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:52:14 GMT

In article <AIX-L%92100720470952@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU>
John Sroka <SROKA@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU> writes:
>
>Type 'env' and check your TERM= setting.  Setting TERM=dumb before invoking
>telnet should establish a 'line' mode connection to your host; TERM=vt100
>will get you the 3270 flavor.
 
  Yes, my student is the expert and we did try this any several other
things.  But that did not work.  Our AIX telnet program trys something
different the second time and a failure occurs.  From non-AIX telnet
programs, we do not have any trouble getting the dumb connection.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:06:24 -0400
From:         Elizabeth Brindley <brindley@TROUT.AB.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      what I did to clean up (re: install -A)

Hi...

I'm the one who asked about cleaning up from the install -A.  I saw
the files mentioned residing in /usr/lpp/bos and 'rm -R'ed any directory
starting with inst_, of which there were many (looking like
inst_U??????, where the ?s are maybe PTF numbers).  It cleaned
up space and it doesn't seem to have caused any problems (famous
last words!).  It may not have been the cleanest move, but what can
you do?  :)  Thanks for the help...

- Elizabeth
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:29:12 -0400
From:         Elizabeth Brindley <brindley@TROUT.AB.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      install of c++

Well, it's me with another install question...

I'm trying to install IBM's C++ compiler (please forgive me if this has been
discussed before..).  Program Specifications say that I'll need 16MB RAM and
13MB disk storage, which I have (actually 32 MB RAM and 18MB free disk space
in /usr), so... I can't figure out why I'm getting the following error when
trying to install just the C++ compiler (xlCcmp.obj):


	Not enough resources available, either because there are
	not enough free partitions or not enough physical volumes.
	File system needs 25516 more 1024-character blocks


We're running a 6000 320 with AIX 3.2

Any clues most appreciated! and thanks in advance...

- Elizabeth
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:07:28 CST
From:         mguerra@INFORISC.CR
Subject:      Re: sendmail DVrelayHost to BITNET
              92 06:33:43 pm

Eva Hocks said:
>
> trying to configure the sendmail.cf to be using the DVRelayHost
> to BITNET on AIX3.2. After reconfigure the new cfDB file and
> restart of sendmail the gateway is still not in use. I know
> there's an additional gateway staement in MVS but can't
> find it in the AIX file. Any help apprecisted.
>
I used CVucrvm2.ucr.cr. ucrvm2.ucr.cr is the BITNET host. BTW,
we're using 3.1.5.
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Subject: Re: what I did to clean up (re: install -A)
From: graeme@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz ( Graeme Moffat)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:45:04 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Elizabeth Brindley <brindley@TROUT.AB.UMD.EDU> writes:

>I'm the one who asked about cleaning up from the install -A.  I saw
>the files mentioned residing in /usr/lpp/bos and 'rm -R'ed any directory
>starting with inst_, of which there were many (looking like
>inst_U??????, where the ?s are maybe PTF numbers).  It cleaned
>up space and it doesn't seem to have caused any problems (famous
>last words!).  It may not have been the cleanest move, but what can
>you do?  :)  Thanks for the help...

Well, now that you've tried it... :) It seems the obvious thing to do, I was
waiting until I applied another update to compare directories.

-- 
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Computer Aided Design Centre,  Fax: +64-9-366-0702 /  our bodies & our wits
School of Engineering,    Ph: +64-9-737-999 x8384 /  But we waste time,
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From: XHIDALGO@ECUAFUN.BITNET
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Subject: PROBLEM WITH INETD, NAMED
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:06:00 GMT
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Folks, I have a machine RISC 6000 , 320H. I'm running Domain name server named,
but i have a problem, when I do telnet, ping, ftp to a name, by example:

    telnet   boombox.micro.umn.edu    (others names)AIX 3.2

the daemon named, not resolve this name, but if I try again the name is resolve
d. I have defined in my file named.cache some machines, then I have in CACHE th
e names, this names are resolved quickly. If do that commands to the ip address
(telnet 128.103.1.1) I haven't problems. What do you thinking about of the prob
lem?

2.- There are moments that the daemon INETD works slowly, I don't have much tra
ffic in my network. If I do mailq, the machine  gets a while in resolve this co
mmand, (The same occurs with telnet, ping), then I have that kill the porcess,
and run again, startsrc -s inetd (the problem is resolved). What do you think t
hat happen with the daemon?

Please your comments will apreciate.
Regards.

Javier Hidalgo, Quito Ecuador
BITNET:    xhidalgo@ecuafun.bitnet
INTERNET:  jhidalgo@ecnet.ec
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:02:52 EDT
From:         Peter Papadopoulos <PPAPADOP@TWAIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: advertisements on AIX-L
              Oct 8, 92 1:28 pm

I strongly agree with Norbert Conrad and Steven Erwin. Advertisments do not
belong to a discussion list. I hope this is the last one we see.
--
Peter Papadopoulos
ppapadop@twain.notis.com
NOTIS SYSTEMS INC.
Evanston, Illinois
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:17:03 EST
From:         Jean Christophe Basaille <BASAILLE@FRCCUB11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Non-root shutdown
              7 Oct 1992 08:48:26 PST from <DCR@OAK.HIS.UCSF.EDU>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:48:26 PST David Ramil said:
>
>You can ftp sudo from oleander.his.ucsf.edu, sorry for the confusion on
>my part.

Well, oleander is ok... I retrieved sudo and it works fine.

Thank you very much...

Jean Christophe BASAILLE
Universite de Bourgogne, France
Centre de Calcul
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:42:31 MEZ
From:         Heinz-Ruediger Oberhage <PHY070@VM.HRZ.UNI-ESSEN.DE>
Subject:      Charcodes ISO versus PC

Hello Fellow-AIXers,

I've a problem, whose answer I'm either to stupid to find (e.g. in INFO-
explorer or by experimenting) or that requires more insight than offered
by my documentation.

Anyhow: When connected to some other (UNIX-)host or executing special
applications, especially when working under X11, I sometimes need or
wish to have the ISO-Latin-1 (ISO 8859-1) keycodes and character display
instead of the PC (IBM-850) codes - we have a German keyboard over here!
I do not want to switch the machine to ISO-Latin permanently, though, as
we have a mainly IBM oriented world (PCs and the like) locally. Just for
a special connection or application, one X11-Window amongst other PC-code
windows, e.g.

Question to the wizards: Can this be done? And if so, how?

For starters, a solution for an application under X11 would suffice and
help me a lot.

Any helpful answers in this matter would be welcome, thanks.

Greetings,
 Ruediger Oberhage


H.-R. Oberhage
Mail: Univ.-GH Essen             E-Mail:    phy070@vm.hrz.Uni-Essen.DE
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From: CA0062@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (Jim Martin -- Computing Affairs,
              618/453-6268)
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Subject: tsm/zombie problem
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:35:19 GMT
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From: Jim Martin   --   Computing Affairs, 618/453-6268
                        Bitnet: CA0062@SIUCVMB

Mike, fyi...
From: UMA018@DDOHRZ11.BITNET (Klaus-Peter Nischke)
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Subject: Re: Segmentation Fault running code generated from lex
              specifications
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:22:17 GMT
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              13 Oct 1992 20:35:53 CDT from <holyejs@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU>

Hello Steve,

maybe I (or others) can help you if you post both the sources of a buggy
lex program and the test-input-pascal files.

You have another chance by switching from lex to flex, which belongs
to the GNU project and is freely available from many archive sites
(I can recommend it!).

-klaus
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From: FC138001@ysub.ysu.edu (Phil Munro)
Subject: Telnet question
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:02:21 GMT

  With the help of one of my students (I am not at an AIX expert), we
experimented with Telnet trying to get a dumb, tty (VT100) connection
into a local 3270 machine.  The AIX version of telnet would not allow
us to do it, but running telnet on other machines we were able to do it.
 
  On one of the machines that was successful, we toggled the options
ON and followed the action.  When a VT100 terminal type was refused the
first time, it was automatically tried a second time and then the local
machine accepted it.
 
  For some reason AIX telnet does not want to send the same terminal type
(e.g., VT100) twice when it is refused the first time.  In fact the
second time it sends "DEC-VT100" and then the local machine closes the
connection.  My theory is that AIX telnet is too smart and the local
machine does not continue after the second unsuccessful (and different)
try.
 
  Can anyone give me some ideas on how to get a non3270 conncetion with
telnet on AIX into another machine?  Perhaps you could even try it to
my machine id below (ysub.ysu.edu).
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  FC138001@ysub.ysu.edu  Phil Munro       Youngstown State University
  Electrical Engineering Department           Youngstown  Ohio  44555
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:51:19 MET
From:         Michael Dahlinger <dahlinge@RZHP9B.GSI.DE>
Subject:      r question to screenblank

This discussion about screen-blanks reminds me, to ask a question which
troubles us:

We have an IBM X-Terminal (Model 130 I believe), which runs X11. After some
minutes of inactivity it automatically blanks the screen (the screen is dark).
If then a new window pops up on this screen, the screen DOES NOT switch on
automatically. One has to move the mouse or press any key.
Is there any way to ensure that the screen comes back
automatically, whenever a new window pops up on the screen ? (perhaps
via xset, Smit configuration, another screen saver ??)

My best regards, Michael

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From: wijkstra@fwi.uva.nl (Marcel Wijkstra (AIO))
Subject: Re: help
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:24:27 GMT

"Peter C. Vernam" <pcv1584@MVS.DRAPER.COM> writes:

#Marcel Wijkstra AIO <wijkstra@fwi.uva.nl> writes:

#>mmcglone@MGH.COM (Mike McGlone) writes:
#>
#>#a.) Has anyone compared a Sun (sparcstation 2) to their RS6000, and what
#>swayed
#>#your decision to the  RS6000.
#>
#>I just compared the PHIGS (a graphics standard for writing applications)
#>capabilities of our RS/6000 model 730 running AIX 3.1.6, X11R3,
#>graPHIGS 2.2.3 with two SPARCstations 2 (4/75) running SunOS 4.1.2,
#>X11R5, PEX-SI.

#That's just about the most blatant case of comparing apples to oranges that
#I've ever seen!!!  IBM's graPHIGS talks directly to the graphics hardware,
#while MIT's PEX-SI uses the PEX protocol (an extension to the X protocol) to
#talk to the PEX server process (an X server with the PEX extension).  The
#advantage to the former is speed, the advantage to the latter is display
#independence.

Hey, I know that! But I was asked to do this comparison by my superiors
(although I knew I was comparing apples with pears (as we say in the
Netherlands)), so I did it. And didn't Mike ask for this info??? It's on
him what to do with this info.

#Also, PEX-SI is a PEX Sample Implementation -- it is not optimized for any
#particular graphics hardware (as graPHIGS is) and, in fact, only works with
#Sun's dumb frame buffers.  Therefore the graphics rendering is being done by
#the SPARC CPU, which (even though you're using a completely separate machine)
#is certainly not as fast for that purpose as IBM's custom graphics adapters
#(by the way, you didn't specify which one you had on your RS/6000 -- I'm not
#that familiar with the various RS/6000 model numbers).  If you ran SunPHIGS on
#your SPARC with one of Sun's high-end graphics adapters (like the GT), you'd
#get a fairer comparison, although I suspect the RS/6000 would still win

Well, we are sunning SunPHIGS 1.2 over here, which is not completely
iso-phigs compatible (for instance, its function names are slightly
different) and only runs under SunView... SunPHIGS 2.0 is said to solve
these problems.

#comfortably (at more than twice the cost; maybe MUCH more -- I can't find a
#price for the 730).

That's because it is no longer sold as a 730. A 730 is a 530 with a
High Performance Graphics Adapter (I think).

Marcel.

P.S. This group is called 'bit.listserv.aix-l', not 'bit.listserv.aix-l.flame'.
I do not like the way you talk about me. Just because you are safe behind
your screen, doesn't mean you can yell at anyone you don't know!
-- 
 X	   Marcel Wijkstra   AIO   (wijkstra@fwi.uva.nl)
|X|	     Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science	
 X	       University of Amsterdam   The Netherlands
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:02:51 EDT
From:         David Clayton <DCLAYTON@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Software search

I'm in need of a calendar program to keep daily appointments and a
names/address program to run under AIXWindows on an RS6K.  Any leads
to (preferably) free packages would be appreciated.  I had a couple
good ones on an old Sun IPC but they ran under Sunview!  Please reply
directly and I'll summarize to the list.  Thanks.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
David Clayton; Academic Computing         "On the larger scale of history, the
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Internet: dclayton@uriacc.uri.edu          away from the computer."
                                                  -Living at the End of Time
From: hocks@RZHP9A.GSI.DE (Eva Hocks)
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Subject: sendmail DVrelayHost to BITNET
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:33:43 GMT
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trying to configure the sendmail.cf to be using the DVRelayHost
to BITNET on AIX3.2. After reconfigure the new cfDB file and
restart of sendmail the gateway is still not in use. I know
there's an additional gateway staement in MVS but can't
find it in the AIX file. Any help apprecisted.
From: BASAILLE@FRCCUB11.BITNET (Jean Christophe Basaille)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.aix-l
Subject: Re: bffcreate failure when installing lpps
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:00:51 GMT
Organization: Universite de Bourgogne, Centre de Calcul, France
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              14 Oct 1992 17:44:18 EST from <hocks@RZRI6F.GSI.DE>

On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:44:18 EST Eva Hocks said:
>
>> When copying lpp install images via smit from tape to disk I get error
>message
>>
>> 0503-018 bffcreate:  Failure on system call to execute command /bin/dd
> if=/dev/r
>> mt0.1
> of=/Inst.Images/RS6000/lpps.more/SDE.Workbench/1.1.1/workbench.usr.1.1.1.0
>>  2> /dev/null.
>> 0503-111 bffcreate:  Failed creating the backup format file for software
>>         product workbench.
>>
>> This failure happens when I try to load different lpps from different tapes.
>> (system is an AIX 3.2.1 on a mod 970, filesystem /tmp and /inst.images  used
>> only by about 30%, rmt0 is an exabyte tape)
>>
>Solution to this problem is a full root filesystem. I deleted files and
>increased the filesystem size (chfs -a) and am now able to install the lpps.
>This experience brought up another problem with the filesystem. Obviously the
>root filesystem doesn't free the space when deleting a file. This only
>occures in the / filesystem, /tmp for example is handled properly. Is there a
>bug in AIX3.2.1 ?
>
>Eva.

Funny to ask if there's a bug in AIX 3.2.1......

One more thing abour bffcreate is that it's effectively buggy. We experienced
it when we tried to download a tape with 150 files on it. bffcreate reads
the TOC, which is near the beginning of the tape, for EACH file.....
About 10-15 hours to download, as we estimated. Control-C mandatory.

The fix is PTF U409490, which requires U403173, which requires U403164, which
I think requires nothing, but I'm not sure.

Jean Christophe BASAILLE
Universite de Bourgogne, France
Centre de Calcul
From: bob@MOJO.NIEHS.NIH.GOV
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Subject: Ined listing of files
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:39:41 GMT
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Is there a means, obviously or obliquely documented, of getting the text
editor INed to list files in alphabetical order as a default?  Couldn't
find any option for listing files in any other order other than what seems
to be date of creation. I actually rather like Ined & would like to make
this seemingly minor "customization."  Thanks,
Bob McC bob@mojo.niehs.nih.gov
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:01:22 NFT
From:         Thomas Greve <greve@RS1.THCH.UNI-BONN.DE>
Subject:      Re: advertisements on AIX-L
              "Norbert.Conrad@HRZ.UNI-GIESSEN.DBP.DE" at Oct 8, 92 10:58 am

>
> I don't know what the exact purpose of this list is. But I am quite
> sure that it is not a forum for companies advertising their products.
> This is very different from users recommending products they have tested.
>
> I would be very happy not being bothered by companies telling me about
> their superiority.

I strongly agree. And i strongly disagree to the whishing of any
company to keep discussing their products off this list and on their
own `lists' instead, probably controlled by them.

				- Thomas

   greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de
   unt145@dbnrhrz1
From: OPER@PRVXIN.CINECA.IT
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Subject: Remote printing trought a terminal server (LAT-TCP)
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:47:00 GMT
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Comments:     INFN.IT domain is equivalent to BITNET domain: INFNET; INFNET has
              been disestablished Dec 31, 1988

Hi  netters,

        How can i send a print job to a printer connected to a terminal
server? I mean the last steps to do, not how to configure tcp/ip or
set up hostname and address.

        Actually I'm not on AIX-L List, so if anyone send me a mail,
here's my address:

                   OPER@PRVXIN.CEDI.UNIPR.IT


 THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!                     Cesare Marchesini.

P.S. We have an IBM RISC 320H AIX 3.2.0
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:38:50 PDT
From:         John Sroka <SROKA@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Telnet question
              7 Oct 1992 21:02:21 GMT from <FC138001@YSUB.YSU.EDU>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:02:21 GMT Phil Munro said:
>  With the help of one of my students (I am not at an AIX expert), we
>experimented with Telnet trying to get a dumb, tty (VT100) connection
>into a local 3270 machine.  The AIX version of telnet would not allow
>us to do it, but running telnet on other machines we were able to do it.

Type 'env' and check your TERM= setting.  Setting TERM=dumb before invoking
telnet should establish a 'line' mode connection to your host; TERM=vt100
will get you the 3270 flavor.
From: Norbert.Conrad@HRZ.UNI-GIESSEN.DBP.DE
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Subject: advertisements on AIX-L
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:58:21 GMT
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P1-Message-Id: DE*DBP*UNI-GIESSEN;921008153314719-MTAJLUG
Priority:     normal
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              8 Oct 92 14:56+0000 action Relayed
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Autoforwarded: FALSE

The Wang company writes:

>The Wang Integrated Imaging System (recently ranked as the number one
>document imaging system by Computerworld) has been ported to AIX, with
>equivalent or better functionality, and named OPEN/image for AIX.
>Customer shipments began in September.
>

I don't know what the exact purpose of this list is. But I am quite
sure that it is not a forum for companies advertising their products.
This is very different from users recommending products they have tested.

I would be very happy not being bothered by companies telling me about
their superiority.

(One exception is IBM, of course. As long as they restrict their
contributions to technical information.)


Norbert Conrad                             phone: +49 641 702 4861
Hochschulrechenzentrum                     email: conrad@hrz.uni-giessen.de
Heinrich-Buff-Ring 44
6300 Giessen
Germany