From: tdn7039@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Thomas Nguyen)
Subject: Re: [REL] Gia'o Ly' DDa.o Pha^.t
Reply-To: tdn7039@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:04:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.181942.23556@news.media.mit.edu>, tran@neep.engr.wisc.edu
 writes:

Ba.n TVLCTN,
>  Co^ng -gia'o cho ra(`ng con
>ngu+o+`i co' pha^`n ho^`n va` pha^`n xa'c.  To^i dde^` nghi. ba.n ha~y
>ho?i nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i bie^'t nhie^`u ve^` Co^ng Gia'o\.
    Chu'ng ta -dang ba`n ve^` va^'n -de^` pha^.t gia'o concerning to
the soul.  I didn't know that buddhism  denies the existence of 
souls.  Nhu* va^.y con ngu*o*`i ta -da`u thai la`m gi`? what stuf is that
which gives the person the individual characteristic of a person? life time
after life time?? ( lets say, I am a buddhist ok)
  Ca?m o*n ba.n -de^` nghi. ve^` co^ng gia'o, tui co' le~ ra`nh
ve^` tha'nh kinh ho*n pha^.t kinh .
 >   2. Khi ta^m 1 ngu+o+`i kho^ng co`n chu+o+'ng nga.i, kho^ng co`n
>cha^'p tru+o+'c, kho^ng co`n so+. ha~i, xa ro+`i mo.i vo.ng tu+o+?ng
>ddie^n dda?o thi` ngu+o+`i ddo' o+? trong 1 tra.ng tha'i go.i la` Nie^'t
>Ba`n. 
     Ba.n a., khi tui no'i ta.i sau pha^`n -do^ng ti'n -do^`PG,
 an nhie^n tu*. ta.i, bi`nh tha?n, vv... "a(n ma('m ca` etc.." 
la` y' tui muo^'n no'i khi individuals -da~ tha^'u trie^.t -du*o*.c gia'o ly PG,
con ngu*o*`i se~ kho^ng co`n ham  muo^'n gi` he^'t va` -du*o*ng nhie^n la` 
cha^'p nha^.n ta^'t ca? nhu*~ng phu? pha`ng cu?a -do*`i va` ca('n
ra(ng chi.u tra^.n -do^? thu*`a cho -di.nh me^.nh, va` co' le~
ra'ng a(n hie^`n, o*? la`nh the^m -de^? kie^'p sau -du*o*.c to^'t -de.p
ho*n.
Correct me if I am erred,:-)
Buddha said that the roots of all sufferings come from desires.
When the desires are unsatisfied, other emotions such as angry, frustrated,
ruthless(do whatever it takes),worry, ma^'t ngu? etc..  arise.  Therefore, If 
one wants to "escape" from sufferings, one must get rid of all desires.
     Tui bu*.c mi`nh la` vo*'i lo^'i suy nghi~ nhu* va^.y, con ngu*o*`i
va` sa~ ho^.i se~ tie^'n lu`i chu*' kho^ng tie^'n to*'i.  Look at the vast
India and their cast systems, the majority of the population are poor and 
ignorance. People there accept their fate according to their birth rank
on the social status scale.
They are poor because they are trapped the concept of karma and fate, destiny 
and acceptance, instead of fighting for their lives to get out of the poverty 
and to get out of whatever miserable conditions they are in.
Some wealthy people are bloodsuckers with full
of political connections. 

>   3. Trong Kinh va(n co' ca^u:
>      Du.c tri tie^`n the^' nha^n, kim sinh tho. gia? thi.
>      Du.c tri ha^.u the^' qua?\, ddu+o+ng sinh ta'c gia? thi.
>nghi~a la`: Muo^'n bie^'t nha^n kie^'p tru+o+'c, ha~y xem nhu+~ng gi`
>pha?i chi.u ddu+.ng trong kie^'p na`y; Muo^'n bie^'t qua? kie^'p sau\,
>ha~y xem nhu+~ng vie^.c la`m trong kie^'p na`y\.
>   Ne^'u ba.n tin o+? thuye^'t nha^n qua?, lua^n ho^`i, hay ddi.nh
>lua^.t nghie^.p ba'o thi` 1 ngu+o+`i hie^.n gia`u co' la` do ti'ch tu.
>thie^.n nghie^.p tu+` nhie^`u kie^'p tru+o+'c.  
       I strongly disagree with this statements above va` ca? ca'i
ca^u kinh phi'a tre^n. One CAN NOT  looking at the present
of a person's material wealth and jump into the conclusion that these people
must have been tu tha^n ti'ch -du*'c tu*`  tie^`n kie^'p. As I said
before some wealthy people are blooodsuckers and full of  pha^n va` one can 
not looking at these people and nghi~ ho. la` ngu*o*`i cha^n thie^.n .
 
>   4.  "Big Bang" theory ddang tie^'n to+'i quan nie^.m mo.i va^.t ba('t
>nguo^`n tu+` "nothingness".  "Nothingness" hay "Emptiness" la` 1 quan
>nie^.m dda(.c thu` trong PG, kho' la~nh ho^.i va` de^~ bi. hie^?u la^`m
>nhie^`u nha^'t, nhu+ng "Nothingness" tuye^.t ddo^'i kho^ng co' nghi~a
>la` kho^ng co' gi`.                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   awhile past, you said that the soul just is just like the time, they're
infinite...etc...
        Now, we are talking about big bang theory and the moment before
the creation. Scientists are , on theory, able to trace back time to a 
few microseconds (not sure)after the creation. So therefore, Time has its
 beginning and  will also has its ending. 
Theory of relativity is talking about time dilation, lenghth
contraction  and the effect(sp) of time when one travel near the speed of 
light. So time is not infinite like  you said. Time can be measured, 
twist, bend and manipulate like anything else, and time has its ending. 
 However, I know you are probably
thinking  of "time" as something even before creation there is a time.


enuf of saying!

peace everyone,

  TDN
  
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