HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cs304001@scs.carleton.ca (Chulaka Ailapperuma)
Subject: Happy new year
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:56:11 GMT

Happy new year to everybody !

chulaka
From: nishani@coos.dartmouth.edu (Chandana H. Fonseka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: Hambantota Lawyers
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:43:45 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <10360@arccs1.fed.FRB.GOV> m1pkd00@fed.frb.gov (Prasad K. Dharmasena) writes:
>> >I resemble that remark.
>>    ^^^^^^^^
>
>BTW, I can't believe you took the time to "correct" me.  The normal
>way of saying it is "I resent that remark."  And the odd way of saying
>it is "I resemble that remark."   Jeeez!
>
>

huh?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: eknchan@acs.ucalgary.ca (Esther Kien-Nhi Chan)
Subject: Just rambling!!!
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:05:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Followup-To: /dev/null 

I got some time to kill and account which has the authorization
to post, so here goes: 

When I was growing up in LANKA (about 50years ago) fair complexion =
beautiful for girls and fair complexion and tall = handsome (`` SUDU
USA KOLLA'').  Has anyone heard a good reason for this behavior other
than SL was a British colony blah blah blah?  If you looked around
here in NA for guys handsome= musclebound tall guys, but having pretty
face does not count. I guess endurance in doing certain things (I mean
like jogging :-) counts a lot, I wonder whether it is same in SL now.

Another thing, it is (used to be?) common to make fun if you make
mistakes in communicating in English. There are large # jokes
(like don't outstand son come come understand..) and I think Amitha 
Abeysekara was doing it for a living? Is it common only in our culture?


In TELE NATYA (can I call them soap's?) why do they always try to
tell the countryside (or rural areas) is better? I mean the writers
live in Colombo, actors do not look like they are suffering from
malnutrition and then they try to preach how good the life in 
the country.
 
If you have read a Sinhala newspaper recently, you would see that
writers are always trying to provoke the people.  Also, according to
Sinhala papers women do not get anything out of sex, they just obey
men:-). I read a few short stories which tell if a women lose her
virginity out of the wedlock her life is over! But if you just take a
walk you would think something else. There were rumors that one could
get SL celebraties for a few hundred dollars.  (No no, I did not even
think about it, I have traditional values whatever that means)


A few months back ``Silumina'' paper ran a fiction, I don't remember
the name, but the story goes like this. A guy goes to US for his
studies and bring back an American girl and then she wash his and his
fathers clothes with her hands !!!. He teaches good things about
SL culture(?).  It was really funny!

******

Sarath (sarath@hydra.cis.mcmaster.ca) using Chan's account


*****

































Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne)
Subject: Re: Yu Constitution 
Reply-To: faruk@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 02:38:21 GMT


In article <1992Dec12.175759.18441@husc3.harvard.edu>,
stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec10.083346.18343@husc3.harvard.edu>
stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
|> >In article <1992Dec9.012635.29283@bnr.ca> faruk@bnr.ca writes:
|> >>|> 
|> >>|> In ex-Yugoslavia there were six _nations_ and many national minorities.
|> >>|> IL allows self-determination for nations, not minorities.  Constitution
|> >>|> of SFR of Yugoslavia allowed for self-determination of nations, not 
|> >>|> republics or provinces. 
|> >>
|> >>This is not true. The Constitution of ex-Yugoslavia allowed separation
|> 	  ~~~~~~~~
|> >>of provinces. By the referendum. Precisely as it was done in the separated
|> >>provinces.
|> 
|> 
|> So until you find something better, I'll assume that you have 
|> just been mislead by propaganda?
|> And no mention of "referendum."  Oh, yes, Serbs are not people. I understand
|> that.  Nothing changed from Ali-pasha's time.

This might be found in Yugoslavia Constitutional Chronology 1986 - 1991
published in: Constitutions of the countries of the world, Editors:
Albert Blaustein & Gisbert Flanz (Yugoslavia supplement), May 1991 Oceana
Publishing Inc., Dobbs Ferry, New York.

On Dec. 23, [1990] Slovenia held a referendum on its right to secession 
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
which was overwhelmingly approved. 94.6% of the voters supported the 
principle that the Republic of Slovenia should declare itself "an independent 
and sovereign state" ...              

1991 Jan 14 .... this did not discourage the Macedonian Assembly to proclaim
the sovereignty of Republic of Macedonia and the Macedonian peoples's right
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
to self-determination. It did not call for an and of the Yu federation but
it reserved the right of secession.

A new Constitution of Croatia was promulgated by the Croatian Assembly on
Dec 21. It affirmed its sovereignty and its right to secede from Yugoslavia.
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Faruk.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne)
Subject: Re: little lies...
Followup-To: pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu 
Reply-To: faruk@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 00:56:25 GMT


In Article 852 of soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:08:44 GMT
writes:

>A: You missed my point (again a point!) Geographically - yes, maybe
>   Albanians in Kosovo are geographically easier to separate from
>   Serbia. Psychologically - no. 

Shall I conclude that Albanians in Kosovo (1.8 millions) are psyhologically 
not prepared to separate from Serbia? You must be joking.

>   That is the complicated "history" of Kosovo - as much as the
>   Albanians are now oppressed, so were the Serbs oppressed during
>   the autonomy of the Kosovo region. I do not approve of either
>   ....
>   and now are manipulated by the Serbian leadership. 

Either take the history as an argument or not. If you do then inform 
yourself. You can start by the book written by Branko Horvat: Kosovsko 
pitanje.

>>In addition to that, serbs are building the largest serbian church in the 
>>heart of Pristina (Kosovo capital). 

This is not a history. This is, what you would call, state of the affairs.

>A: You see, it is crazy to invoke history in order to justify criminal
>   deeds. That holds for Serbs, but also for Albanians, Croats, Bosnians,

Guess who is forgeing a history to justify criminal deeds? This is not a war, 
since in a war you have two armed parties fighting for their causes. This
is not an ethnic conflict, since only serbs are fighting all others. This 
is a genocide systematically carried out by serbs over the non-serb population
of former Yugoslavia. As the UN officer said the ethnic cleansing is not the 
outcome but the goal of this campaign.

Faruk.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: U52148@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Chetniks are Cowards!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:39:43 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <RLqTVB2w165w@infopls.chi.il.us>, damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir
Matanic) says:
>

>> The only thing that can stop this war is to LIFT THE ARMS EMBARGO
>> imposed on Bosnia and Hercegovina and Croatia. Only military victory
>> against Serbia will bring peace to the Balkans.

My sentiments exactly.

>> Long live united front of Bosnia and Hercegovina, Croatia, Kosovo,
>> Macedonia, Sandzak and Vojvodina against fascist Serbia!!!
                                            ^^^^^^^
The operative word here is Fascist. Serb nazis on the net believe they
can spout their hackneyed propaganda drivel to justify agression on
the catholic and muslim Croats of Bosnia, Sandzak, Hercegovina, and
Croatia proper. The Serbs will be defeated.

>  Za Dom !

-Uvijek Za Dom...

-Cro

P.S. I leave you with something I read from the newspaper Vrisak...

Reporter- Kad ce mo uzeti Nevesinje?

Vojnik- Ako Bogda za novu godinu.

The names have been witheld. This is from this week's Vrisak
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne) 
Subject: Re: little lies...
Reply-To: faruk@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 00:28:48 GMT

In an Article 852 From: pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane)
writes:

>A: You missed my point (again a point!) Geographically - yes, maybe
>   Albanians in Kosovo are geographically easier to separate from
>   Serbia. Psychologically - no. 

Shall I conclude that Albanians in Kosovo (1.8 out of 2 millions) are 
psyhologically not prepared to separate from Serbia? You must be joking.

>   That is the complicated "history" of Kosovo - as much as the
>   Albanians are now oppressed, so were the Serbs oppressed during
>   the autonomy of the Kosovo region. I do not approve of either
>   ....
>   and now are manipulated by the Serbian leadership. 

Either take the history as an argument or not. If you do then inform 
yourself. You can start by the book written by Branko Horvat: Kosovsko 
pitanje.

>>In addition to that, serbs are building the largest serbian church in the 
>>heart of Pristina (Kosovo capital). 

This is not a history. This is, what you would call, state of the affairs.

>A: You see, it is crazy to invoke history in order to justify criminal
>   deeds. That holds for Serbs, but also for Albanians, Croats, Bosnians,

Guess who is forgeing a history to justify criminal deeds? This is not a war, 
since in a war you have two armed parties fighting for their causes. This
is not an ethnic conflict, since only serbs are fighting all others. This 
is a genocide systematically carried out by serbs over the non-serb population
of former Yugoslavia. As the UN officer said the ethnic cleansing is not the 
outcome but the goal of this campaign.

Faruk.
From: popovicj@ucs.orst.edu (Jovan Popovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Hatred? What Hatred?
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:57:19 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

A while ago in respond to the article "Operation Balkan Storm" I had posted
article of the following content:

| I wonder who George Kenney and Michael J. Dugan are? They undoubtedly
| know plenty about military weapons. As far as their understanding of
| the conflict, on the other hand, I am afraid I cannot say the same.
| Maybe because I am Serbian I cannot possibly agree with proposition
| that would destroy the country I was raised in. Or, maybe it is my
| understanding of the conflict itself. This war which already fully displayed
| and further enlarged the hatred between people of Yugoslavia will only
| stop when rationality allows people to see the futility of this
| hatred. The "Operation Balkan Storm" not only simplifies the current
| situation by comparing it to the Gulf Crisis, but also proposes
| solution that will only provide temporary relief and not solve the
| problem itself (because hatred would still be present). Therefore, the
| result of such an intervention would be the creation of a time bomb
| which would inevitably explode again in the near future.
|
| So, what is the solution?
| I and so many others would wish to know. I believe many things could
| have been done earlier. But, now...

And recently when I checked my mail I found the note of the following content:

| From: Khalid Shah <kshah@huey.csun.edu>
| Subject: For an serbian-chetniks liar and scum
| Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 2:16:53 PST
|
| Would you like your mother or wife to be gang raped , you  dirty liar ?
| You said you don't understand the conflict.
| You said who the Kenny and Dugan are .
| All of you serbs know what is going on in Bosnia , but you are dirty liars.
| This is the second time that Bosnian muslim's throats are slit .
| You know very well what your damned nation did to Bosnian muslims
| in W W 2 ; 300,000 butchured muslims.
| You are going to pay for both.We are going to win , god willing , and you
| will be damned and cursed nation until the judgement day.I will fight
| for Bosnia as thousands of other muslims .
| You will end up like Russia in Afghanistan.
| But,listen dirty liar, we will not rape your mothers and wives and daughters.
| And we will not open up your pregnant women , you bastard.

Well, I guess this is the hatred I talked about.
From: wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: little lies... (was: Re: CANADIAN UN GEN. McKENZIE)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 17:21:13 -0500
Organization: Yale University Mathematics Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2155
NNTP-Posting-Host: golem.math.yale.edu

In article <1992Dec12.164830.18437@husc3.harvard.edu> stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
>In article <Bz46Eo.AA9@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
>>>According to the official census, what is Rascia is 55% Serbian/
>>
>>Milan, you have a terrible habit of submitting useless information.
>>What is "the official cencus"?  It is difficult to take your information
>>on faith.
>
>1991, 1998, 1971 census data.
       ^^^^

Somehow I am not convinced.

>>/Joe Blazic
>
>MNS

I would say that some are a bit too quick to post, and a bit too slow
to verify.

-- 
Prof. M. Victor Wickerhauser                      <victor@kirk.wustl.edu>
Department of Mathematics, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
Sto se ljuckim trudom uzdignulo, Ljuckim znojem jopet se ponavlja. --Medo Pucic
Xref: sparky soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:793 soc.culture.croatia:44 soc.culture.turkish:12924
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 15:39:50 CST
From: <U15231@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Chetniks are Cowards!!!

One among many lies chetniks, serbian fascists, are spreading is how
they are "tough fighters", "the best gerilla in the world" and other
nonsence. Certainly, they have proven record of child and women rape,
thievery, and monstrous cruelty on unarmed civilians. But when faced
with minimum equiped enemy they forget about grater serbia,
pig-keeper's grand-gradnson - their king, and show the real face of
chetniks, the face of lowest military misery.


This is how chetniks react under pressure:


FOREIGN PRESS BUREAU, December 10, 1992

SARAJEVO, B-H - Bosnian Army headquarters in Sarajevo reports that Serbs
utilized  chemical  weapons  in  their  bombardment  of  the  quarter of
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Velesica.  Five such shells struck the area.  The same source says  that
a  cloud  of poisonous gas has begun to spread towards the center of the
city and residents are being warned to take  protective  measures.

     ...         Local  defense  forces  have  captured Mt. Zuc. Serbian
forces have since been pounding  the  positions  of  the  local  defense
forces.  Infantry battles have been reported in the Rajlovac and Vogosca
areas as well as Grbavica and the Vrbanja bridge.  Serbian  forces  have
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
threatened  to  use Croatians and Muslims as human shields if the offen-
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
sive on Grbavica is not stopped.    ...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-------

The only thing that can stop this war is to LIFT THE ARMS EMBARGO
imposed on Bosnia and Hercegovina and Croatia. Only military victory
against Serbia will bring peace to the Balkans.

Regards,

Zlatko Sijercic

Long live united front of Bosnia and Hercegovina, Croatia, Kosovo,
Macedonia, Sandzak and Vojvodina against fascist Serbia!!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R)
Subject: Re: Labudova pjesma (Re: REPETITIO MATER STUDIORUM EST
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:25:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.090146.18662@husc3.harvard.edu> stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
>In article <724630459@locust.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener) writes:
>>   
>>   If my guess is correct, this means that the Moslems have
>>   allowed themselves to be massacred by the Serbs three
>>   times in recent history:  1914-1922, 1941-1945, 1992.
>
>	Yes.
>
>	Basically some Muslims joined Ustashes in killing
>	Serbs.  Especially bad were Prijedor region, Bijeljina

How many is "some"?  I'd really like some concrete references from
anyone out there.

Hey, Prijedor, Bijeljina, all sites of ethnic cleansing and massacres
by Serbian forces in 1992.  Beautiful Milan, you've found yet another
excuse!  Really, maybe you could write something for all of us here 
to use, like perhaps, "101 reasons why I deserve a raise."

>	region, Herzegovina and Sandjak ( Rascia ). 
>	This caused reaction by Chetnick movement.  Many Muslim villages 
>	were burned, and there was a great massacre in Foca.
>	Story goes that Muslims from Foca sent a roasted baby 
>	to the local Serb leader.  His response was quick 

A "story"?  Now who is "believing in fairies"??? 

>	and harsh.  Muslims claim that tens of thousands of Muslims
>	were killed, Serbian fighters that took part complained that
>	they caught "only"two thousand. Evil and terrible, revenge

So Milan, whose number do YOU take?  I am *really* looking forward 
to reading your response.

>	represented like some Croats and Muslims planned to kill all Serbs,
>	some Serbs wanted to kill all Croats and Muslims, so everyone
>	is even.  In the heads of Muslims Foca massacre got the proportions 
>	of the Jasenovac camp. 

Interesting.  What are you saying here?

Regards,

Joe Blazic
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne)
Subject: Re: Bosnian mistakes
Reply-To: faruk@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 00:09:45 GMT


In article <1992Dec20.214717.29673@enea.se>, sommar@enea.se (Erland
Sommarskog) writes:
|> Senad Arnautovic (arnsenad@me.utoronto.ca) writes:
|> >Let's be serious, what do you blame the B-H government. What mistakes
|> >did you believe it make?
|> 
|> Went on the road to independence when they knew it would lead
|> to bloodshed. At best this can be described as folliness.
|> -- 
|> Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se

If you were watching the pre-war situation closely, the Bosnian governement 
had no choice. Serbo-negro gangs were looting BH towns, serbian generals 
were black-mailing the population as well as the government, and it was a 
full-blown war against Croatia primarily from the Bosnian soil. Serbs were 
ordered to harass the government in any possible way. Kosovo was the prior 
example of the serbian intent, where serbian police were killing and torturing
Albanians. Izetbegovic did everything to avoid the war. He cautiously 
negotiated  the way toward the independence with the EC and the UN, and 
organized a referendum only after he got a guarantees that the new country 
will be accepted to the SCSE and UN membership, what implied an active help 
by other members in defending the Bosnian sovereignty. Besides the great 
majority of people of Bosnia and Herzegovina approved the independence. 
Between freedom and death Bosnians chose freedom. They all knew there is 
no freedom without sacrifice. However they may be only disapointed by the 
reaction of the free world, the world in which ideals they believe, and for 
which ideals they are dieing. The only thing the Bosnians want is to live 
in freedom as any other civilized nation.

Faruk.
From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Labudova pjesma (Re: REPETITIO MATER STUDIORUM EST
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:14:20 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


Zlatko Sijercic writes:

>Predanje kaze da labud kada umire pjeva svoju najljepsu pjesmu. U slucaju
>gospodina Kovacevica moglo bi se reci: dok koljacka tvorevina velikosrba
>umire, gospodin Kovacevic pjeva svoju najgnusniju laz. Medjutim u jednom je
>on u pravu: tri puta su Muslimani dozvolili da ih Srbi masakriraju:
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>1914-1922, 1941-45, 1992.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I dobro ti ono rece Kovacevicu: nece biti cetvrtog puta!


   
   If my guess is correct, this means that the Moslems have
   allowed themselves to be massacred by the Serbs three
   times in recent history:  1914-1922, 1941-1945, 1992.

   Did Serbs really massacre Moslems in the years 1941-45?
   Note to Vic Wick, Cro, and Matanic:  This is a serious
   question, in no way intended as sarcasm.

   If anyone can provided information and references, I
   will be most grateful.

-- Eduard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: little lies... (was: Re: CANADIAN UN GEN. McKENZIE)
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:16:38 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1gdokpINNm0d@GOLEM.MATH.YALE.EDU> wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.164830.18437@husc3.harvard.edu> stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
>>In article <Bz46Eo.AA9@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
>>>>According to the official census, what is Rascia is 55% Serbian/
>>>
>>>Milan, you have a terrible habit of submitting useless information.
>>>What is "the official cencus"?  It is difficult to take your information
>>>on faith.
>>
>>1991, 1998, 1971 census data.
>       ^^^^

Obviously 1981 census.

>
>Somehow I am not convinced.
>
>>>/Joe Blazic
>>
>>MNS
>
>-- 
>Prof. M. Victor Wickerhauser                      <victor@kirk.wustl.edu>
>Department of Mathematics, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
>Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
>Sto se ljuckim trudom uzdignulo, Ljuckim znojem jopet se ponavlja. --Medo Pucic

MNS