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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:01:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re[2]: Gleanings (59)
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>--ggs  (wondering if any wordslers are quick enough to have caught
>  his attempt at political correctness....)

     "The sender gets her money..."

     Oh you are going to <catch it> from Mka now, Gilbert.

     Carol, who is as quick as she can be on a Monday

     P.S.  Happy happy happy birthday to you, dear ggs, whose library
     opus had me laughing so hard my next door neighbor came in to see
     if I was <all right>...
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The [t] in often
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>
> My high school English teacher Mrs. Tranberry, who was on hand
> to watch English flourish from about 1066 on up,

Why, Rod. Watch your mouth, son. You're speaking of my twin sister. And we
not only saw Hadrian's wall being built, but we also it crumble.
Doris
From: TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA (Tony Harminc)
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              11 Sep 1992 09:09:00 LCL from <Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM>

On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:09:00 LCL <Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM> said:

>>What is sinsemilla?
>>Is it nice? Can it grow in Canada?
>>Agnes
>
>     Sinsemilla is a very potent type of marijuana -- sticky,
>     fragrant, and heady as incense.  It is very very nice, if you
>     care for that sort of thing.  It can grow wherever it's not too
>     cold; but the authorities would probably take a dim view of your
>     raising a crop for Christmas presents.  Too bad, I say.

The Feds grew a large experimental crop of it in Ottawa some years ago,
and they claimed it was *much* stronger than what was available on the
street at the time.  Evidently they had it surrounded by barbed wire
and guard dogs.  Ottawa has quite cold winters (much colder than Toronto
for instance), but reasonably hot summers (except this year, of course).

Tony H.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:51:40 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Zen

>Ouch! I knew you'd catch this.  But, Tushar, do you practice Zen?
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:10:09 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Plumbing Woes
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> loose and won't let the tank hold water unless I fool w/ it.  I will mention
> it to my landlord--he can be responsible for breaking anything!

You didn't mention this part before.  Turn the problem over to the landlord
immediately.  That's one of the best parts about renting -- and is one that
makes me sometimes wish I rented -- that plus yard work.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Prison camp? was Plumbing woes
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>For Neal and Alec (and Ann):
>Re: Fay Vincent announcing his decision to quit for the "good of baseball".
>This was on the radio today: What they need to do is get the Phillies to quit
>for the good of baseball.

>rashmi

	Whoaaaa, watch your back, Rashmi.  Two of the addressees of your note
	are devotees of the Phils.

	But I understand why you'd say that.

neal, whose red cap at the clambake bore a white script 'P'.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:21:25 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Zen
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There's a myth floating around the nets that "Zen and the Art of the
Internet" is not available in ASCII.  Untrue.  In case you want a copy,
I just put one in docs/words-l/Net-Stuff as zen.txt.  It's 183742 bytes.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:58:41 EDT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz
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On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:07:00 EST, "Blue eyes cryin' in the rain"
 <TRAVEN@vms.cis.pitt.edu> wrote:
> 	Graham, are you an epidemiologist in disguise?  Your criticism of Jim's
> 	methodology warms the cockles of my professional heart.  But, hey, what
> 	can you expect from him ... he's a sociologist.    ;^)
>
> 	Epidemiologists, like all good disinterested researchers, worry about
> 	whether the questions they ask actually address the issues supposedly
> 	being investigated.  We probably overdo that worry -- criticism of

I have some experience of setting up testing protocols for various loonies
who wanted to do psychic experiments.  I'm *very* good at seeing the flaws
in other people's ideas.  My quick suggestion for the straw poll wasn't
thought out in depth because all I had in mind was forstalling any completely
useless questions like Jim's.  I'd love to see how a professional like
Natalie would go about doing it properly.

This sort of stuff is what I was talking about last week when I said that
one the only things of value you could hope to glean from high-school was
some inkling into the scientific method.

G
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:52:28 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tongue Movement
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> >Reply to Message of Sat, 05 Sep 92 11 from Rest of header flushed:
>
> What a lovely thing to call me!:)

You did notice that interesting header, didn't you, with its lines about
"unknown origin" and "rest of header flushed"?

> My t's tend to be pretty much 'post-dental'.  I've been sitting here saying
> t-words to myself, and my tongue is definitely much further forward for
> /front vowel + t/ than for /back vowel + t/.  My 'ate' and 'eighth' are in
> the same place.

My tongue also is farther forward for front vowel + /t/. It seems to be
on the front of the alveolar ridge for "ate" -- not quite post-dental,
but definitely heading in that direction -- and on the back of the alveolar
ridge for "put."  I also am sitting here saying t-words to myself.  I
NEED TO BE WORKING ON A PAPER RIGHT NOW, *NOT* SAYING T-WORDS!!  Why are
y'all so bad about pulling me away from work I need to be doing???
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

P.S. When I say "eighth," my tongue goes straight from its vowel placement
to inter-dental, with no stop in the vicinity of alveolar ridge or even
post-dental.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:15:14 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58)
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              08 Sep 92 13:50:11 -0400. <9209081752.AA29764@sics.se>

  >Mexico.

  Colombia.
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  An inaccurate statement by Bayla:

  >Just *try* to catch Bertie reading a book, 'improving'
  >or otherwise!

  But Bertie reads lots of books! Nearly all of them mysteries, I believe.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:11:45 EDT
From:         QXN148%URIACC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: SEX ID

>Posted on 14 Sep 1992 at 16:28:05 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
>
>SEX ID
>
>Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:12:24 EDT
>Reply-To:     English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@UGA.BITNET>
>From:         HELP%Help%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
>
>MY ID FILE:
>
>NAME:     LARRY WILSON
>NICKNAME: NITEMAN
>BIRTH DATE: JULY 8, 1969
>AGE: 23
>SEX: MALE
>MARITAL STATUS: SINGLE (BUT ON THE PROWL)
>MUSIC PREFERENCE: TOP 40, GEORGE MICHAEL, MADONNA
>FAVORITE SONG: "I WANT YOUR SEX" GEORGE MICHAEL
>FAVORITE FOODS: ANYTHING THAT HAS A HOT SWEET TASTE
>FAVORITE ACTIVITIES: RIDING AROUND IN MY '92 ZR-1 CORVETTE.
>LEAST FAVORITE ACTIVITIES: NOT HAVING SEX ON THE FIRST DATE.
>HOBBIES: SEX AND CARS
>
>
>NITEMAN

Is this person for real?  I find it hard to believe that the sender would
actually post such garbage for his first post to the list.
By the way what are you doing this weekend?

lisa
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From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>Back to an earlier thread...  the other way to get tushar annoyed is
>to not understand half his shining wit...
>
>G

Your last incisive analysis of my psychological makeup said that I rub my
palms in glee when no one understands what I say.

I point this out merely because inconsistency might mar your own enjoyment
of your theories. Otherwise I am happy to supply as many volumes-speaking
deafening silences for you interpret as demanded.

tushar
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Blue Wax

>I was thinking more in terms of -Sanctuary- than of "The Bear."
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Just about time for the corn cob harvest too.  Never really
thought of _Sanctuary_ as a seasonal book.

-Mka
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:46:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (59)
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>  2) AP test (Steph)
.
AP tests are Advanced Placement tests given to high school seniors
who have (supposedly) taken a special AP course to prepare them for
the test, a course that is the equivalent of college-level work.
Some may remember that the origin of WHTMISA (San Antonio) all
started with -ggs' stay in SA to grade AP tests in Spanish.
.
>  9) C.o.d. (<Gilbert>)
.
C.O.D. means <Collect On Delivery> and is used by the United
States Postal Service....  the sender gets her money from the
post office after the post office has gotten the money from the
recipient of the mail.
.
> 10) OTFAICGU (<Gilbert>)
.
On The Floor And I Cant Get Up.  A variation on ROFL, and also a
slightly obscure, very clever reference to the commercial that was
<all the rage> some time ago, the advertisement for the emergency
medical service that portrayed the woman on the floor, crying into
the emergency phone "I've fallen and I can't get up."
.
> 17) GRE (Agnes)
.
I think this is the Graduate Record Examination -- test taken by
college seniors who are trying to get into graduate school.  --ggs
took the one in Spanish as a senior at Baylor University, scored in
the 33 percentile and got into Tulane *anyway*....  After M.A. and
three years of teaching at Wake Forest, he took it again and scored
in the 98 percentile and got into Brown *anyway*....  A little
knowledge is a wonderful thing.
.
> 29) Double nickel (Ruth H.)
.
I will let ruthie explain this because she will be <ill> with me
if I steal her glory.
.
--ggs  (wondering if any wordslers are quick enough to have caught
  his attempt at political correctness....)
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:07:48 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: wordsler birthdays
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> Because you and Dan Lester have birthdays a few months apart and are
> always kidding each other about which one is the older. And because

Ah yes.  Dan and I will reach 30 at close to the same time...

> when you mentioned summers at Lake George during the 60s

Ah yes.  Those wonderful summers of my infancy...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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This is difficult, since the records are incomplete, or in
some cases lost, but I believe that something like the
following has a tinge of accuracy to it:
.
           bayla-----rita czarina--natalie--love judith
               m. <ts>
             :
             :
     ---------------------------------
     :           :                   :
   ndh        doris                 -ggs
    m.?          m. ?                  m. shag (1)
   :           :                     :      m. tc/sw (2)
 dgtr          :                     :          :
  m.?    John "O.B." W               :          :
  :           -------------------------------   :
g.b.          :       :       :      :      :   :
           Nana    Michael  Ethan  Caleb  Jill  :
          Exeter     m.Cecilia                  :
                        :                       :
                      g.b.1 (?)         -------------
                                        :           :
                                    Nicolas       Karla
 ********************************************************
 Any corrections from family members?
 --ggs
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:48:28 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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> Posted on 4 Sep 1992 at 22:48:09 by Anne Burton Harwell
> >Since I am NOT a Usenetter (yet...hurry up Austin with my nntp feed), I

Something just occurred to me.  I thought abh was a staunch hater of
usenet.  Why the desire for it now?  Masochism or an interest in observing
the enemy culture?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:50:37 EDT
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Posted on 12 Sep 1992 at 14:10:18 by Judith E. Schrier
>Elaine brought Grant over for tea this morning.
...
>Elaine, you may keep him :-)

But she promised to share!

Karen
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:35:54 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
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              10 Sep 1992 21:17:38 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:17:38 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>> Certainly not; I was just adapting to US idiom for Natalie's benefit.
>
>Guess what.  I always write dates with the month in the middle.  That's
>the first thing I change with a new copy of Wordperfect, for example.

Hmmm... clearly I should have used the wording I thought of first, and
said "Yankee date format".

Tony H.
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>But he hasn't said yes either.  Do we assume that the absence of no is
>yes?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

-- silence has always implied consent.

--bayla
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:51:21 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Accidental Mail to Tenet
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That was weird.  I was net-crawling a few minutes ago and was roaming
through the ERIC holdings at acsnet.syr.edu (cursing the VM system there,
of course).  Deciding to try the menu option of mailing one of the ERIC
entries to myself, I chose the 'mail' option.  Before I could tell it
an address, I got the message saying that the file had been mailed to
somebody at tenet.edu.  I've forgotten the name but know that it wasn't
one of our Words-L teneters.  Strange.  I wonder where that address came
from.  I can already tell that I'm going to have to go back and try the
whole thing again.  I'm too curious not to.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ak743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doretta Hanschka)
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In a previous article, N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith) says:

>> OK, sorry -ggs, oh king of <missspelllinggggssss>
>
>Well, o.k. but 1) I don't think this apology is sincere, and
You are a perceptive little devil when you want to be, aren't you?

>2) if you don't behave, I'll put you in the story of Agnes, maybe
>even in the sewers-beneath-the-streets-of-Stockholm.  That is a
>threat.
Oh.  Please?  I could use the noteriety.  Could I be one of the sewer
rats?  My non-list sister is always calling me worse things than that; it
would be fun to finally play the game, as well as having the <name>.


-- 
Nethead, aka the Ruth Hanschka, hath enscribed herein, a message
	ap290 and ak743 , both of the Cleveland Freenet
			Here Be Dragons
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Sinsemilla
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:33:25 GMT
Organization: Karsten's Bit Bucket
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM writes:
> [Sinsemilla] is very very nice, if you care for that sort of thing.
> ... the authorities would probably take a dim view of your
> raising a crop for Christmas presents.  Too bad, I say.

Are you setting out extra plates for those DEA agents that
will be stopping by for a friendly dinnertime chat?

--karsten

(who is quite sure his government had a nice file on him long before
 he started his current job.)
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From:         "Alec D. Plotkin" <185422285@WILD.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Bill's Life
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>Alec,

>Thanks for posting that informative and substantive report on Bill Clinton. And
>to think, I almost voted for that guy.

>-abh
><whew>

No lies please. I am sure there are very few reasons why you vote
for Bill Clinton. My reasons are:

He is for change, committed to helping the poor and will not screw up the
environment.


later

alec


P.S. Just saw the new Bush ad on T.V. It was awful. It painted Bush as
God.
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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> Regarding my last posting (an e-oops): see how starved for Words-L
> traffic one is after just 29 hours?
>
> brad

Has it done any good?  It appears as if Words-L itself has set no mail. :-)

Doris
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:12:08 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Majority and "norm"
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> >clear as French would be.  If a majority will use a word a certain
> >way it will become the norm.
>
> This is *not* getting any clearer.  Either you mean
>
>      1) Norm=what majority uses; or
>      2) What majority uses will become the norm, which is to say
>         that norm =/= what the majority uses.

I didn't say "what the majority uses will become the norm."  I said WILL
use (future).  Sorry about the slowness of my brain, but I don't quite
understand.  The norm is what the majority uses.  When the majority usage
changes, the norm changes.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:34:23 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58

>Torkel wants *evidence* that Bertie's a mindless twit, and the many books
>featuring his ineptnesses is not sufficient -- what would constitute
><evidence> in such a case?

Very difficult to decide.

>The fact that Bertie's premier concerns are his clothes and meals?

No. That hardly makes a chap a chump.

>That he is demonstrably incapable of comprehending "deep" books, in spite
>of the girlful attempts to "improve" him made by women he can't avoid
>becoming entangled with, even engaged to?

No. Ditto.

>The complex schemes he allows himself to become party to, and his
>inability to frame adequate rebuttals to totally specious arguments?

No. That's a result of his kind-heartedness and desire not to be a cad.

>The ease with which he is manipulated by his "friends" (including Jeeves)

This is bit more acceptable. But  mostly it is again due to not being a
cad. As for Jeeves, one is not mindless if one does not see through Jeeves'
plans. One has to be a Nobel Laureate to do that.

>and his terror of Aunt Agatha (and all strong women)?

No. That's a feature of Bertie's universe.

>Bertie's a dear, but nonetheless a twit.  Amiable, goodhearted,
>generous -- but a twit.

Twit is not the right word. He is a chump, but it's hard to say why. I
guess because he has allowed the intelligent man in him to be eclipsed
by the cheery boulevardier, and let his commonsense be overwhelmed by
the Code of the Woosters.

tushar
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From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
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>> (Did we lose richh?  I've been providing all of these references
>>  just to make him feel at home.  Perhaps Rita was right.)

>	Sadly, he couldn't take it.

     Then I can observe without discourtesy that his netname made me
     think of a throat full of phlegm.

     Carol
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