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From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: The most attractive woman in wrestling
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:23:49 EST
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Keywords: Best looking woman
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In article <9211191932.AA08733@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>, Otto Heuer #3 writes:

> 1. Nancy Fallen Robin Woman Green Angel Sullivan (no contest)
> 2. Missy Hyatt
> 3. Sensational Sherri
> 4. Elizabeth Poffo
> 5. Madusa Micelli
> 6. Lady Blossom
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

What? That broad is FUGLY! And Liz belongs well above Sherri. She gets 
any fatter and people will confuse her with Tentaquake.

Also, I take it you aren't counting some of the women from smaller ladies
federations? There were some knockouts in POWW, LPWA, and WOW.

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Catch-22 (re Pro-Wrestling and "Wrestling Fans")
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:51:49 GMT

bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij) writes:

>I think others on the net will respond to above.  I will just say that
>many people who post here recognize the poor shape of wrestling in the
>U.S. as represented by the big federations.  However, wrestling in
>Japan, Mexico, and perhaps a few others places emphasize skill and speed
>over gimmickery and cartoonism.  And  a fair number of people here
>recognize that and try to make it availabe to others who don't have
>access to it (e.g., via Herb and Dave's compilation tapes).  Yes, there
>are a fair number of serious, mature wrestling fans here.

I replied to him, but maybe I shouldn't have.  He probably believes all of us
are idiots, so how can we listen to the idiots like us?  Millions of Japanese
citizens must be idiots to him as well just because more people went to see
New Japan Pro-Wrestling cards than to Mike Tyson's matches or Paul McCartney's
concerts at the Tokyo Egg Dome.

I hope he has enough courage to go to the White House and tell the man on the
highest position in this country that he's an idiot just because he's 
a Ric Flair fan. May God bless him. Amen.

-- 
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University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
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From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Bagwell is getting better
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Date: 15 Nov 92 18:53:20 EST
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The Eaton/Anderson vs. Bagwell/Sasaki match on this Sunday's WCW Main
Event had at least one surprise. Eaton went for a knee to the gut as
Bagwell came off the ropes. Bagwell ducked it and turned it into a single-
leg rollup. Not a bad move, IMO. Once again, I think everyone is being too
quick to judge. He is trying, after all. If he was in the WWF Vince would
probably chew him out for working too hard... already Max Moon is slowing
down to an almost Undertaker-pace workrate.

Michael Hayes had a great line. "Whaddya think about that, Kawasaki, or
whatever your name is?" Yes, more Japan-bashing, but it did sound funny.

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From: falknemj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: ... not that the Survivor Series is much better
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:29:24 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

... not that the WWF is doing much better.

I see the Survivor Series not able to survive.  This will be as big of a DUD as
the Clash was last night.

Main Event:  Perfect / Savage vs Flair / Ramon

I see Perfect staying on the apron until necessary, and then coming in,
storming the ring, and winning the match.  Savage will be injured, physically
or mentally, during the match.  Perhaps Flair will use Liz and the divorce as
an angle??

One problem with "Plan C":  The plan is to win the WWF World Title.  Unless
Flair intends to infiltrate the fan favorites with Perfect, I don't see that
accomplishing much.

I don't see the run-in with Hogan, Backlund, et. al. for this reason.
Undertaker vs. Kamala

Five minutes, tops.  The arm won't take much.  Kamala will really have to work
to sell a lot of this.

Hart vs. Michaels

Possible best match of the night; expect Hart to hold on, for now.

The rest of the card does not deserve comment...

						Mike Falkner
From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:36:22 EST
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In article <1992Nov20.143439.21295@news.nd.edu>, chris kennedy writes:

> >Yeah, I agree with ya. What always cracked me up was the interviews with
> >his old man "Iron" Mike Gilbert, who still played the monster heel even
> >though he looked like Kriss Kringle. He was better as a heel.
> >
>  Curt's father is Larry " the Ax " Henning, who was a monster heel and did
> look like Kris Kringle
> 

Aw man, where the hell are my brains. That's right. I was thinking of 
Iron Mike DiBiase. But if he grew his beard a little longer, he could play
Santa, huh? :-)

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From: scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM (David Scheid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: What the hell happened to the WWF?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:30:47 GMT
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In article 11126@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca, hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
>  As for the Mr. Perfect turn, what a screw up that was.>

What?!!? I think it is the Perfect turn!

And, Hennig never was a "dirty" rassler. He didn't have to be
because he is sooooo Perfect. Plus, it sets up what I hope to
see - Flair vs. Perfect at WMania.

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From: bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA)
Subject: Re: the Torch
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In article <1992Nov14.155744.19643@cis.ohio-state.edu>, atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes...
> 
>Can any r.s.p-w veterans offer me a little help?
> 
>I have a buddy who would sell all 4 of his reproductive organs if he could 
>find out what 'the Torch' is.  Actually, he knows pretty much what it is.
> 
>How can he get it?
> 
>Please email information (I don't read r.s.p-w too often).
> 
>Thanks.
> 

Your friend has 4 reproductive organs.  Boy, I'd really like 
to see that.  :)

That Catwoman ROTFL just couldn't resist.
Hey Rick Shrum, how the heck are ya?


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From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: Did Paul E. pull a shoot?????
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:28:02 GMT

Something that hasn't been brought up about Madusa and Paul E.'s match last
Wednesday night.... 

Everybody agrees that the ending was bogus, right? It just didn't make sense.
Also, chances are that this could have been Paul E.'s last stint in WCW.
If Paul hates Watts enough, what wouldn't stop him from running out of the
ring at the end of the match when he really was supposed to do the job for
Madusa? It seemed as though the match started to look strange after Paul
ran out of the ring the second time (The first time he was carried back by
Duece). I say that Dangerously strayed from the script, and Watts will
never let him manage in WCW again!

Just an idea... 

 
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From: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Animal
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:49:00 GMT
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To: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>

> About a month ago the Torch reported that Hawk was to team up with Kensuke
> Sasaki. In this weeks issue there is a picture of them on the front cover.
> They are going to be a tag team for New Japan. They wrestled as a
> team Nov. (at Roper's in Fridley Minn.

OH>Sigh... and sadly I was unable to attend.  That would have been a
OH>SUPERB card!

You didn't miss anything except for a historical event.  The 'match'
lasted less than 30 seconds and was just done as a press event for
the japanese press that were present.  Since New Japan paid for the
card they were able to book the main event anyway they wanted.
The crowd was not happy.
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: Clash Review: (WCW R.I.P.)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:46:14 GMT
Keywords: Horrible, Horrendous, Embarrassing, etc.

mb20@prism.gatech.EDU (BRANCH,MICHAEL B) writes:


>  Dangerously vs. Medusa - So, Mike Thor comes down dressed as Medusa?
>  While it may say something for Mike's interests (which would certainly
>  make him more intriguing than this event was...) it built no heat, no
>  suspense, nothing. Medusa looked embarrassed (as she usually does in these
>  things) and mercifully it ended quickly.

This match was the low point of the show.  It was hyped to the max,
and whoever wrote the lead-up skits did a really good job.  They went
so far as to have the HEELS get disgusted with Paul E and walk out on
him.   I don't remember having seen this angle used before.

So why did they blow it so badly?  Why not just have Paul E
get his comeuppance and get on with it?  Also, I hope they explain
how Madusa recruited Mike Thor for this.  Maybe they'll
actually follow up on this, and have Madusa managing him?  Who knows.

>  Windham/Arm bar Rhodes vs. Douglas/Steamboat...
>  highlight of course was hearing the fans boo Dustin when he pulled
>  Windham off Steamboat. And their cheers as Barry beat the hell out
>  of Rhodes afterwards. 

Yeah, I enjoyed that.

Tom
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Separated at Birth.....
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:45:55 GMT

Bob Backlund and Dan Quayle
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From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: Scorpio
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:58:16 GMT

In article <BxxyE1.29C@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
>For those that missed it, Robbie Walker didn't work the Clash.
>Ron Simmons came out with a mystery partner, with nobody supplying
>his name (leading to messy commentary).  To get over, his partner
>did a body block over the top rope onto all three heels right at
>the start.  
>
>His partner was eventually identified as Too Cold Scorpio.  This
>is Charles Skaggs, who works for UWA as Black Scorpio and has
>worked New Japan tours as Flying Scorpio.

It wasn't hard to see that Scorpio was the best wrestler of the match, IMO.
(With the likes of Simmons, Barbarian, Atlas, and a off-kilter Cactus, go figure)
I kinda like that one-and-a-half-gainer-off-the-top-rope splash that ended
the match. I thought, at first, that he over shot on his flip and was going
to really hurt Atlas when he landed. I was wrong. Nice move.

I kinda liked the Windham turn too. Yah, yah, I know, we all saw it coming,
come on! This is the first time where I've seen a face turn heel for a
*legitimate* reason. Hell, I'd've beat the shit out of Dustin, too, if
he'd cost me a title. Loved the chair attack, too! (Violence and mayhem, YES!)

Coulda done without the Madusa/Paul E "match", though.

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  she was knocking on my door saying, `Nature Boy! I wanna ride Space Moun-
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From: wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan T2 Wen)
Subject: Re: WCW update
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:07:07 GMT

In article <By2vFx.DG6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>  Interviewed, Ron Simmons said he didn't know if it would be Rick Rude,
>Sting, or Van Vader as his opponent.  Since we know it's Sting vs Vader
>for KoC tournament finals, it looks like Ron Simmons.  Also, Chono will
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
Ron Simmons vs. Ron Simmons?  That oughta be an interesting match...

>Notes: Vader, Sting, Simmons all not going to be in Battle Bowl, I wonder
>who is going to win it.  Please not Eric.  Also, I would guess Windham
>and Dustin will be in the same Lethal Lottery tag team match.  If bookers
>are smart they will be on the same team :)

And have them give each other 1000 finishers on concrete.  That would be
nice!  Just kidding.  Actually, Dustin thoroughly impressed me with his
concrete job (falls count anywhere match) against Cactus Jack where both
of them ended up lying on the concrete pretending to be dead.  Heh heh heh.
As for Barry, I've always thought he was in the wrong role as a face.  He
should have never turned face against Lugar.

>  Finally, has anyone really been impressed with Sasaki's wrestling in the US?
>His finisher, that sort of arm drag/powerslam looks good if he does it fast,
>but most of the time it doesn't look that devastating, and I hate to say it,
>but Dustin's bulldog looks better than his.  Is he holding back, because I
>have yet to see anything that would make him comparable to Muta, Liger, the
>Steiners, or even Ron Simmons (they both do the powerslam, they both have
>a few other moves).

I think his opponents are too big or don't sell...
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Subject: Re: THINKING LOGICALY abot Perfect/Savage
From: sir@vax1.mankato.msus.edu (Shadow's Master)
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:46:50 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

article <1edbbrINNn1q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> Personaly, I hope the Henning face turn is for real.  The marks need
> another *wrestler* to cheer for besides Brett Hart.  Notice I said
> wrestler, not over-inflated street fighter.  BUT, still sitting in the back
> of my mind, is the couple of months Savage will be taken off after the SS. 
> That is a perfect (pun intended) way to write him off for a few months. 
> Have Hall, Henning and Flair triple team him.  I will be sitting 6th row
> ringside.  Look for all the (mostly) pro-hell signs.  Including:
> 

ya know I was thinking about this as well.
How about a fake turn that turns into a real turn.

Hall, Hennig, and Flair triple team Savage and then when the stretcher is
wheeling him out and Hennig, Hall, and Flair are laughing.  Hennig turns his
back.  Boom, Flair and Hall lay out Perfect.  That would set up a feud between
Perfect and Flair or Hall as well as explain Savage being out for a while.

-- 

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From: Don.Delgrande@launchpad.unc.edu (Don Delgrande)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WCW] CoC - the credits
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:40:53 GMT
Expires: Fri, 4 Dec 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

I noticed the following in the closing credits for Clash of the Champions:

	ASSISTANTS TO MR. (VIRGIL) RUNNELS:  Terry Allen (and others)

I'm not _that_ familiar with real names of wrestlers, but how close to
being correct am I reading this to mean Magnum T.A. is working as Dusty
Rhodes' assistant?

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From: <JRW123@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Henning return expected

    Curt Henning return was expected if you had been kept up with reading the
wrestling magazines they had been saying that Curt was healed and was waiting
for the right time to make a come back.  This is a old trick by Ric Flair keep
the person who would cause the most damage on your side and life is good.  Does
any one know for sure how many individuals fell for this stunt by Flair.  From
Steamboat to Henning individual was held back to help Flair with his career.
If Ramon or who ever he will be next need to wake up because Flair don't need
allies just suckers who will let their future suffered.  WWF in my opinion may
be working on bring in an almost talented of individuals to it federation.
McMoney may had discovered that fans will pay more to see wrestlers that have
ability like Bigalow,Demanto,Steiners,Taylor,one of the young pistols,Garvin,
Henning.  Please add on to this list since the public did a good job with my
previous posting.  If this plan works, don't be surpise that their may be an
mass movement of stars.  The days of big fat or little talent wrestlers may be
coming to an end.  If you don't believe look at the top ten from last year or t
he year before.
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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:34:20 GMT
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In <BxvGIL.Ixr@acsu.buffalo.edu> v069qryr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Aaron T. Breen) writes:


+> From what I remember, Curt Hennig was a face early on in his career. Back in
+> the old AWA days, good old Curt was involved in quite a few feuds, but then
+> turned heal to face Greg Gagne, and eventually grab the AWA title away. He's
+> been a heal ever since, but he was exceptional as a face early on. I say that
+> he should go face, I never did like his heal angle.

	In the opinion of some people anyway, it was Greg Gagne that was 
the Heel.  Little Gregge turned on Curt at the ten-team tag team tournament
I think.
	Before that, Henning had Scott Hall as a tag partner for a while.
I never really thought much of him in the AWA before his turn.  He was
just another wimpy face without a personality (ala Brunzell, Martel, 
Zumhoff, Zenk....).

	After Curt turned, he won the title from Bockwinkle in the
imfamous "roll of dimes" match.  In his early heel days, he was "cool"
Curt Henning and his gimmick was his eyegear.

	He lost the title as part of Vern Gagne's attempt at empire-building.
The triple allence of the proto-USWA, the (nominally) Von Erich WCCW and
the Gagne AWA were going to try and have a unified champion.  Since the
Jarretts had financial leverage over the Von Erichs at that point, there
was no way that anyone but lawler was going to be champion and that
the grand title unification match would be between the Von Erich and
Lawler.
	That left Curt (and the AWA) with the humilation of losing the
title to lawler in Memphis.



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From: mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ([Matt Kaufman])
Subject: Re: Bill Kazmaier (was Re: Weird Tag Teams)
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 06:20:16 GMT

In <21NOV199220284216@acad3.alaska.edu> fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:

>In article <13509@operator>, oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite) writes...
>> 
>>That was Bill Kazmeir (sp) and I thought they made a good tag team. A 
>>TOTAL contrast of styles. 

>Now that you mention Kazmaier, does anyone remember his match with Ted 
>Arcidi from Calgary on 1/12/87?  It wasn't the worst match I've ever
>seen, but it came damn close.  I mention this in relation to Oliver's
>point about a contrast of styles.  These guys were roughly about the
>same in talent, abilities and styles, and of course it made for a
>perfectly putrid match.  Naturally, neither guy made it very far in
>the business.  And thankfully, neither guy was ever matched up with
>Tom Magee.  That would have been the worst match ever, IMO.



Another lousy tag team that this reminds me of was when Arcidi was a last
minute sub for Andre the Giant on a WWF syndie about 7 years ago.

He and Hillbilly Jim teamed up to job for Big John Studd and King Kong
Bundy.

Talk about no work rate these for hardly moved until Bundy avalanched
Hillbilly.

Just my $0.02

Matt Kaufman
Class of 1993




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