From: jxg601@huxley.anu.edu.au (J. Gao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: CSS in USA maybe become SCRAP HEAP in the future China
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:53:04 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
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xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:

>But many of the "CSS" in Japna have become SCRAP HEAP in China :-)

>Disclaimer: I don't mean to provoke the fight between CSS in the U.S. and
>            in Japan, here is just some more info.

>In article <CHEN.92Oct8195050@haydn.ee.uec.ac.jp> chen@haydn.ee.uec.ac.jp 
>(Chen Jie) writes:
>>
>>CSS in the U.S.A are losing a historic chance for China as well as
>>for themselves although they maybe reap some profits in short eyes.

>Let's see what many "CSS" in Japan grabbed :-)

And they didn't lose any historic chance for themselves, either. :-)

>>The reason is simple and obvious: historically, Chinese dislike
>>those who take advantages by harming others.
>>Unfortunately, most CSS in USA are doing so, at least from
>>CSS's eyes in Japan.

>Give'm a break!  Due to the political tradition/system in Japan, which is
>quite from the western ones, CSS in Japan is unable to do the same after
>trying many times.

Not even after some of them, notably Zhao Nan, took the gov. to court. The
case is probably still pending after such a long time. Japan's ambiguous 
stance on the issue of refugees is probably one of the reasons why a Japanese 
was picked for the top position in the UN refugee commission: to
arouse/give more attention in/to the Japanese society.

>Why pick up the CSS in the U.S.?  What other CSS in other countries 
>(especially there are 100,000+ "CSS" in Japan :-) have done on those?  
>Don't you see the continuing posts of AEIC and Hope Project that aim to 
>helpping China on SCC by CSS in the U.S.?

They don't have the time for those profitless projects. :-) They are
otherwisely engaged: just go to the duty free shops in Tokyo and you'll see
groves of Chinese there, some soliciting customers by Karaoke (nothing
wrong there). Be prepared to endure sutble slight though when you show your
PRC passport at the cashier. :-(

>Where are the "CSS" in Japan NOW when Japanese Emperor visits China without 
>saying a word of sorry about what Japan did to China in World War II?
>While CSS in the U.S., Canada, Australia sent portest letter to Japanese Gov't.

They wouldn't dare! :-)

>>In contrast, recent years the CSS in Japan are impressive for their talent 
>>and hard working. It is reported that in the recent two years,
>>among the CSS who came back to China to serve their people,
>>the members from Japan are more than 40 percent of the total numbers,
>>and they have brought many business chances to China. 

>Maybe more than 40% :-)  But why don't you tell SCC what's the composition
>of those CSS?   In fact most of them were "language students" in Japan and
>worked there as general labors in construction sites, resturants and etc.
>for 2-3 years and brought U.S. dollar 30,000-50,000 back to China (mostly
>to Shanghai :-)   And most of them had already lost their legal status
>/student status in Japan before they returned to China.

An unknown, but reportedly significant number of the more talented of that 
CSS population have been recruited by Singapore. :-) Some of those less 
qualified but admirably more resolute ones have come down to Australia to 
take another course in English (not really aspiring to be linguists, not at 
least for China). :-)

>>In conclusion, the CSS in USA are going far away from China.
>>When people inside China know what happened in this Net.
>>they maybe give a more surprising answer than I.

>"CSS" in Japan have been surprising Chinese people with their money and life
>style they brought back to China:  Put the hard-earned hard currency into
>the Bank of China to earn higher interests than from those foreign banks, 
>and fooling around on the Shanghai streets/local communities ... etc.  :-)

Yeah many of them have spent all their money to prop up their pretentious 
life style, together with their mid-summer night's street talk spurring envy 
and emulation in the Shanghai psychology so that more people want to go 
abroad for a better life, not to say they themselves hate it so much that
they had to come back to China. :-) :-)

J. Gao
Australia
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