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From: barksdaf@infonode.ingr.com (Alan F. Barksdale)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:12:38 GMT

In article <VSUMMERS.92Sep10081654@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers) writes:
[...]
>     Isn't it just a little silly to psychoanalyze a character from fiction
>to determine if he was homosexual or not?
[...]

As any Sherlockian (Holmesian to Brits) can explain, the Great Detective was
not fictional.  However, I invite controversy from some by proclaiming that
the Literary Agent, A(I)[*]CD, was not fictional, either.  However, I have
much more proof that Mr. Holmes and Dr. Doyle existed than I do for this
character "Vince Summers".

[*] According to _The_Search_For_Sherlock_Holmes_, which oddly enough is
    chiefly about the Literary Agent, the LA's full name was Arthur Ignatius
    Conan Doyle.

Btw, I use the term "Literary Agent" solely because it is the convention.
Given the simularities in style between the Canon and works that I believe
were written by Doyle, e.g., those short stories collected in the
recent _33_by_Doyle_, I hold to the heretical theory given in the libelous
pastiche _The_Last_Sherlock_Holmes_Story_, viz., that Dr. Doyle wrote the
Holmes stories using notes of the cases made by Dr. Watson.  This theory
provides satisfying answers for both the stylistic controversy and such
questions as those about the confused chronology of the Canon:  Dr. Doyle was
more interesting in writing entertaining tales than in being accurate.  I
assume Dr. Doyle assumed Dr. Watson's voice to add to the stories'
verisimilitude.  (Frankly, I'm surprised Mr. Holmes allowed the errors, but I
suppose the advertising and glorification were worth it to him.)  However, I'm
willing to entertain the hypothesis that Dr. Doyle made up some of the stories
or scenes, e.g., Mr. Holmes's meeting with Steve Dixie, out of the whole cloth
for reasons of his own.

Propriety makes me reluctant to speculate on Mr. Holmes's sexual orientation.
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:07:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.061539.1228@ultb.isc.rit.edu> rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>Surely Basil Rathbone has Jeremy beat by a country mile, or at least
>several hundred feet.

You must be joking.  Rathbone: not nearly arrogant enough; not nearly
_a_social enough; not nearly eccentric enough.  Brett is the ultimate
Holmes.


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From: swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver)
Subject: Re: Other Holmes I have seen!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:53:16 GMT


> And speaking of Holmes and Watson, has anyone seen the Tom Baker
> "Hound of the Baskervilles" which A&E runs about twice a year.
> Positively awful.   Baker plays Holmes in an even stuffier manner
> than Rathbone (who was my favorite until Brett came along), and
> Watson is an unbelievable buffoon.   Sad sad sad.

YES!!! (pausing to to impersonation of Joan Rivers with finger down
throat)  Can we talk?

From what I remember, Baker plays Holmes the same way he played Doctor
Who.  While the stuffy, naive-arrogant attitude is ok for the good Doctor
... it totally destroys Holmes.

-Scotty
From: steve@gabriela.tymnet.com (Steve Sandke)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: 221-B Baker Street
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:19:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BT North America, San Jose, CA

In article <1992Sep15.161207.19241@news2.cis.umn.edu>, jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep14.205627.17179@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
|> >
|> >Anyone know if there really is a 221-B Baker Street in London and what is
|> >currently located at that address.
|> >
|> 
|> Yes, its still there, near Regent's Park, and I believe there's a bank
|> on that spot there now.  There was about 4 years ago, anyway.  There are
|> a couple of touristy, Holmes-theme pubs nearby, too.

I was in London two years ago, and I went on a little pilgrimage to Baker Street.  The
neatest thing (for me) was Baker Street station on the Underground (subway).  There were
all sorts of Holmes pictures on the walls, and I thought it was a nice touch.  If you
"Sherlock Holme's London", the picture book by the two Japanese men, they have some
nice pictures of the station.

-- 
-------------------
Steve Sandke
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From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
	<1992Sep9.152835.13624@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:55:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.152835.13624@news2.cis.umn.edu> kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.
edu (Deepak) writes:

   >HURRAH !!!! A Sherlockian Newsgroup, at last. Who ever took pains to
   >get it voted @ alt.config, my gratitude to you !!!

  Voted? Surely alt groups have nothing to do with votes?

  >Hope there is enough enthusiasm.For starters, any comments on the .sig ?

  Your .sig is idiotic.
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From: brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov (Brian Vickers)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Followup-To: alt.fan.holmes
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:49:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.162635.19583@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) wrote:
> 	Well...sillier things have been assumed in the past by some eminent
> Sherlockians.  Rex Stout, you may recall, once claimed that "Watson Was a
> Woman" (in a paper of the same name).  It seems pretty ulikely, though,
> especially since Watson was married at least twice and Holmes makes
> frequent references to his interest in women ("Now, Watson, the fair sex is
> your department.")  And Watson frequently comments on the physical
> attractiveness of some of their clients.
> 	I suppose you *could* claim that Holmes was gay, although it seems
> more likely that he was simply not much interested in sex at all.  Baring-
> -Gould postulated that he had an affair with Irene Adler and fatherred a
> child who later grew up to become Nero Wolfe, but there's not much evidence
> to support that.
> 

Good! Someone knows his stuff. This is exactly the kind of discussions I'm
looking for in a Sherlock-ian newsgroup.

-- Brian
brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: Re: Baker Street Irregulars
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:45:41 GMT

In article <unixwiz.716074742@mcl> unixwiz@mcl.ucsb.edu (Silk) writes:
>I've heard that there is actually a group of Holmes fans called the
>BSI...Could anyone out there comment on this?
>
	The BSI is, in fact, the oldest established Sherlockian group in the
USA; there are literally hundreds of "scion societies" (as they are called)
inspired by the BSI in nearly every city and town in the country.  We have
three here in St. Louis (The Noble Bachelors, The Jefferson Hopes, and The
Crew of the Sea Unicorn) and a fourth (The Occupants of the Empty House)
just across the river in Illinois.  Your best source for information on the
sciens is The Baker Street Journal, the oldest and most prestigious of the
vast numbers of Sherlockian publications available.  The Journal is published
by Fodham U. Press, University Box L, Bronx, NY 10458-5172.  The journal is
edited out of St. Louis by Philip A Shreffler (he took over the post a few
years ago; up 'til then it had never left NY)
>I've not been able to track down any other Holmes group, but I'm not sure
>If its the fact that I'm in the colonies or what...
>
>So, please, I would appreciate it greatly if someone could put me in touch
>with on of these groups.
>
	Give me some idea where you're located and I'll bet I can put you in
touch with a scion.

>Ken
>unixwiz@mcl.ucsb.edu


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From: diwadkva@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu (Vaibhav A. Diwadkar)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Brett IS Holmes ...
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:04:00 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The subject heading is indicative of my views.

I cannot imagine watching another actor play Sherlock.  Brett's Holmes is
suprebly overplayed and etched with great eccentricity.  Holmes' sense of
hubris is also excellently portrayed.  Brett really anchors the series
and his performance completely dominates the surround.  His performance also
makes me forgive the occasional liberties the TV writers take with the 
stories.

As far as Watson goes, I prefer Hardwicke to Burke.  His Watson seems more
dignified in his "irrelevance" than Burke's.  The latter looks a bit like
a  "choir boy".

Its annoying that A&E are showing these episodes for the nth time (where n>=2).
I normally expect to see something new and don't.  I think there are quite a
few episodes not in the A*E pool.

- Vaibhav.
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From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7
	<ROBERTS.92Sep10144831@studguppy.lanl.gov>
	<11SEP199213272808@moose.cccs.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:18:38 GMT


In article <11SEP199213272808@moose.cccs.umn.edu> rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella) writes:

> In article <ROBERTS.92Sep10144831@studguppy.lanl.gov>, roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts) writes:
> >  
> > In article <16865@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> beard@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Patrick C. Beard) writes:
> >  
> > > I have to agree. He's the perfect acetic, drug-addicted, intense man that I
> > > always visualized 
> >  
> > Let's not forget affectated, pompous, arrogant, and either asexual or
> > slightly effeminate (I can't quite make up my mind).
> 
> "Affectated?"  As in "an assumed or contrived manner of behaviour?"  I don't
> think so, since such action would be alien to his perfectly analytical soul. 
> "Pompous and arrogant?"  I think you can put that down simply to the inability
> of most brilliant men to tolerate fools.
> 

I was referring to Brett, not Holmes. He puts an affectated, posturing, pompous
spin on the Holmes character.

--Doug
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From: nsh3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nadine S Harris)
Subject: Jeremy Brett
Reply-To: nsh3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nadine S Harris)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:21:21 GMT

Along with most others, I am very charmed by Brett's
intensity and eccentricity as Holmes, despite the
effeminacy, which never seems suggested by Doyle.

For that reason, it was quite a shock to encounter
his name on the cast list of (gasp!) "My Fair Lady"
(the movie) recently.  He could only have been...
		(and I got out the movie to check...)
he was!  

FREDDY!				(Eynsford-Hill)

The original Bertie Wooster. 

And there he is (I'm getting sick) in a pink glow,
carrying flowers and warbling "On the Street Where you Live"
with this looney grin on his face.

SHERLOCK SINGS!

Nadine

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From: brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov (Brian Vickers)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Followup-To: alt.fan.holmes
Organization: The Baker Street Irregulars
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:53:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.141721.8209@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, tom@arthur.jsc.nasa.gov
(Tom Robinson) wrote:
> 
> For all of you rabid Sherlock Holmes fans out there -- this week the A&E
> network is running Sherlock Holmes EVERY night.  I've always though that
> Jeremy Brett is the quintessential Holmes... opinions?

I would agree wholheartedly.
 
> Incidently... I've been wondering when this group would appear.  Now
> then, does anyone out there like Lovejoy too?
> 

I've only begun watching Lovejoy in the past 2 months and haven't really
watched enough episodes to make a formal analysis. But this topic would be
better discussed in alt.lovejoy :) not here.

-- Brian
brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield)
Subject: Lists
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:38:33 GMT

Could someone please post a list of Sherlock Holmes novels, short stories,
and good basic references for a newbie just discovering the wonderful
world of Arthur Conan Doyle?

Many thanks.
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From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: Shocked...
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:40:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.163035.15364@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:

   Yes, I am aware that there is either very little or no mention of it in
   later novels and stories - allowing us to assume that he "kicked" the
   habit.  Thank goodness.  Did Arthur Conan Doyle use drugs at one time? 
   What that the reason for the appearence in the novel?

For some reason, I have a hazy recollection that Holmes did stop --
there was a story in which he put some creosote on a cart wheel so a
dog could trail it; didn't he and Watson say something about his no
longer using cocaine in that one?

-Joe.
From: sane@cs.uiuc.edu (Aamod Sane)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:48:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts) writes:


>In article <16865@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> beard@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Patrick C. Beard) writes:

>> I have to agree. He's the perfect acetic, drug-addicted, intense man that I
>> always visualized 

>Let's not forget affectated, pompous, arrogant, and either asexual or
>slightly effeminate (I can't quite make up my mind).

Arrogant, yes, pompous no! Asexual, yes. Brett's portrayal is effeminate,
maybe, but how is the original effeminate? Evidence, Doug! You
know my methods :-)

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From: kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:57:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.153729.28254@cabezon.uucp>, larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley) writes:
|> In article <karnik.716054848@micro> karnik@micro.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
|> >
|> >	Any nominations for the best of the short stories ?
|> 
|> 	
|> 
	BEYOND DOUBTS, the _Red Headed League_ : THE MOST imaginative plot 
I have read so far in my brief life ;->

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From: X049BC@tamvm1.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: Shocked...
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:27:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.233721.6844@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) writes:
 
>
>I just thought that it might be worth pointing out that this book
>describes how Holmes might have been cured of cocaine addiction
>by the most eminent expert of the time...
>
>a certain S Freud, of Viena,...
>
>In my Humble Opinion one of the better bits of apocrypha.
>DocDick
>ExHabitue of the Sherlock Holmes Pub, London, UK.
 
Well, the only problem with this bit of fantasy is that Freud himslef was one
of the times leading proponents of the USE of cocaine (typically for the
of addiction to some other substance I forget). His insistence on the benefits
of the drug in the face of much damning evidence cost him a great deal of his
tenuous credibility at the time.
 
Veering wildly off course for a brief moment; isn't interesting how the
staunchly conservative medical field regularly proclaims the Great Wonder Cure
of the Day and utilizes it for everything from cancer to hangnails until it
discovers that it makes your left leg drop off! AND, can anyone guess the ONLY
Nobel Prize recognized psychiatric discovery?....... the modified frontal
lobotomy!
 
Finally (windy guy today!) Yes, Brett is beyond a doubt the only Holmes who
fulfills the majority of the character. There are times you want to cry for or
with him, and times you want to smash his pompous puss! A whole person at
last!
Bill
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From: zst@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Best Short Story (was: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week)
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:53:40 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

In article <1992Sep10.230712.12055@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Govindaraju Rao) writes:
> 
> In article <karnik.716054848@micro> karnik@micro.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
>>
>>	Any nominations for the best of the short stories ?
> 
> Larry Huntley writes:
>>>	I'll open with "The Speckled Band."
>>>	- Larry Huntley 
> 
> How about "The Dancing Men" ?? 
> My very first introduction to deciphering cryptograms. Made a 
> Cross-word freak out of me. 
>   
> G.S.K. Rao <rao@ccm.umanitoba.ca>,<rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
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From: whitney@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (David Whitney GDP)
Subject: Re: Shocked...
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:37:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.163035.15364@nntp.uoregon.edu>, eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
|> When you first started to read holmes, were you as shocked as I was that he
|> was a drug user (cocane and morphine) in the novel The Sign Of Four?  
|> 
|> This totally blew my whole conception of the man when I read it.  
|> 
|> Yes, I am aware that there is either very little or no mention of it in
|> later novels and stories - allowing us to assume that he "kicked" the
|> habit.  Thank goodness.  Did Arthur Conan Doyle use drugs at one time? 
|> What that the reason for the appearence in the novel?

Kicked the habit?  In almost every story it seems Watson is mentioning his
vice of cocaine "to relieve his mind of stultifying boredom in between
cases".  It surprised me too, but the more I read, the more it's just another
part if him that makes him so unlike any other person.  He's Sherlock Holmes.

Dave
 
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From: vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: My favorite edition
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:12:08 GMT
	<1992Sep15.025740.2401@sdcrsi.cray.com>
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

In article <1992Sep15.025740.2401@sdcrsi.cray.com> kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom) writes:
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   From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
   Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
   Date: 15 Sep 92 02:57:40 GMT
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    I wrote about Mallard Press's facsimile edition, and

   daniel@netcom.com (Sam Daniel) replied:
   >
   >I've never seen one of these 'original' editions that actually
   >contained all 54 of the stories plus the 4 short novels.  Is this one
   >complete?

   And boh@fraser.sfu.ca (Changhao Boh) wrote:
   ]Well, I dunno about those having double colunms, but I've seen several
   ]versions containing the original "Strand"'s illustrations.  Those
   ]illustrations are indeed good.  I've seen these selling at the local
   ]Coles and W.H Smiths at less than CAN$20.

   As Sam mentioned, a lot of the illustrated ones aren't
   necessarily complete.  In particular, I'm thinking of a facsimile
   edition with a red-dust jacket that I saw on every B.Dalton's
   remainder table, which was billed as being "complete" and wasn't.

   Aside from that, most of the illustrated editions I've
   seen, even if they contain the illustrations, don't
   necessarily contain ALL the illustrations.  As I mentioned,
   there's roughly one picture for every two pages in my edition.

   Complete?...Well, lessee... [flip flip]...

   Study in Scarlet
   The Sign of Four
   24 stories from THE ADVENTURES
   The Hound of the Baskervilles
   13 stories from THE RETURN
   6 stories from THE REMINISCENCES
   The Valley of Fear
   His Last Bow
   and 12 stories from the CASEBOOK

   That makes 54 stories + *5*.

   Which one were you missing?   :-)

   --Kathy Li aka the Rev. Mom
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   kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com |  afraid Alan Rickman, who plays the Sheriff, is
   ------------------------| *appalling*." ---Jeremy Brett, ANGLOFILE vol.4, no.2

I don't see the novel in your list that talks about the Mormons.

Vince Summers
vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu
From: kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:20:04 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <TORKEL.92Sep9175514@bast.sics.se>, torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:
|> 
|>   Voted? Surely alt groups have nothing to do with votes?

I think one has to propose the new group to alt.config. Atleast that is the 
netiquette.

|> 
|>   >Hope there is enough enthusiasm.For starters, any comments on the .sig ?
|> 
|>   Your .sig is idiotic.

The issue of homosexuality, albeit not brought in the open, lurks in the 
background and the impression I got was that in the Victorian days of SH
there was nothing 'queer' about being a queer. If anyone has the time, 
RHFKeating makes a detailed analysis of JSSH-JHW's homosexual relationship 
in his book _SH, The Man and his Life_.

Perhaps, its time for folks like Torkel to say 'n' to 
"Enter alt.fan.holmes (49 unread)? " ;->

\kerd
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