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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: Good Week
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:06:32 GMT

gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU writes:
>wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins) writes:
>>If you're a homosexual illegal alien who would like to get a free abortion
>>in a military hospital, this is a pretty good week so far.

    It's also been a pretty good week for people who don't much like 
Rush's TV show. I watch it to try to stay current, but when it goes 
into reruns that gives me an extra 2 1/2 hours a week for other 
activities. This week I got to get reacquainted with my wife...

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu      nengle@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: johnch@test22.sun.com (Slam the Crank from Wheezer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices and Secular Reasoning
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:59:54
Organization: Impossible Missions Force
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu's message of 14 Jan 93 22:41:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan14.224134.7057@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
   In article <1993Jan14.153407.20483@asl.dl.nec.com> dillhoff@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Doug Dillhoff) writes:

   >A religion does not need a supernatural being, churches or TV.
   >By definition, a religion is an organized system of beliefs.

   Websters 7'th does contain that definition.  It is last, and is
   included in the archaic definitions, and even then it says that it is
   a system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.

   So now you have to look up faith,  and once again, we find that the
   final archaic definition allows for an exclusion of God, but it
   does say "something which is believed esp. with strong conviction; esp
   a system of religious beliefs."

   Okay,  you can make that point if you first of all want to use all of the
   archaic definitions in the dictionary, and secondly, if you can prove 
   that secular humanists hold to their beliefs through faith instead of
   through logic...

Does anyone *not* have a religion?

Does anyone *not* have a philosophy?

What is the difference between the lack of a religion and the lack of
a philosophy?

Can any given philosophy be reformulated by its opponents as a
religion?

If so, does the establishment clause mean that the government cannot
act on the basis of a philosophy?

Inquiring minds, etc.

-- JC
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Rush's Jan 19th Show: it was great
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:53:53 GMT

staggers@cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers) writes:

>I must say that I really enjoyed Tuesday's show where he was attempting to
>get Clinton voters to call him, but instead got people who were angry at
>him to call.  The combative atmosphere was a refreshing change from the
>usual "Rush is almighty and is correct all the time....mega-Dittos".  Not that
>I want to hear it like that every day.  But occasionally its good to hear
>people who have other opinions on Rush's show.

>I especially liked the caller who questioned Rush on his motives for not
>analyzing the inauguration speech live.  The first thing I thought when Rush
>mentioned that he was going to do that was how many stations are going to
>be carrying Rush while Clinton is being sworn in?  It was good to hear a
>caller counter Rush.  Havent been home to listen to my tape of the radio show
>yet, so I have no idea whether KNBR 680 in San Francisco pre-empted his
>first hour.  Did other affiliates pre-empt Rush today?

>Last comment...I think Rush is now picking on Carol Moseley Braun.  The last

As a resident of Illinois I'm glad he's slamming on Ms. Moseley-Braun (you
forgot the hyphen!).  She is an unqualified embarassment, basking in the
excesses of her position in complete contrast to her campaign rhetoric.  

>two "updates" I heard were pretty hollow.  A hyphen in her official Senate
>name?  And then on Zoe's confirmation hearing...no real comment since Braun
>hadn't asked any questions yet.  Maybe he just really likes his update music.

>--Ken


Edward Simmonds- standard disclaimers 

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Conservative Values (Re: New group proposal:)
Originator: rja@mahogany126
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:52:31 CST


In article <2210@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
> In article <P73JXB10w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com> popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
>  
> ->Congratulations.  This is one of the few Posts by an admitted Republican 
> ->on this group in a LONNNNNNNG time that has approached our 12 year long 
> ->economic disaster with sense.  You are right, the neocon revolution 
> ->displaced common sense with a "there is a free lunch" delusion.  The 
> ->Laffer Curve demonstrated by Jack Kemp to Reagan on the back of a dinner 
> ->napkin.  The dinner napkin that destroyed our economy.
> 
>  The problem with that curve is that the media misinterpreted it. It has
> a peak.

Of course it has a peak.  The question is where is the peak?

If you know, please tell us where it is and how you calculated it.

>         The big government types seem to forget that.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns,alt.religion.computers,alt.peeves
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Re: Gee, i don't Know...
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:54:16 GMT

n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
] mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
] 
] >I don't have a gun, but I joined the NRA.  Just to get a sticker for my
] >front door.  Just as good as having a "security system by smith & wesson"
] >sticker on the door :)
] 
] Either one is about as good as having a "come inside while I'm at work
] for portable goods with high resale value." sticker. 
 

I tried to tell my housemate about this,
when we got rid of the Old ISI v20 box,
but WOULD HE LISTEN TO ME?????

It Took LARGE PERSONS to just MOVE the Bloody Thing,
and a Flipping Monkey to uncable all of the SMD drives....

Now any person of average intelligence and
physical ability could walk off with our
whole network of SparcStations.....

ciao
drieux

ps: Try and Walk with my C90 Sucker.....

pps: We were thinking of a sign,
"Premises Protected by live drieux postings...."


ObPeeves: Housemates who will not allow one to
put Bouncing Betty's in the Bushes.... 

-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: 

sometimes, a thing will happen after another thing, 
and they may not be connected..... 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm)
Subject: Re: RL's Compuserve address?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:20:17 GMT

rishi@acs.bu.edu (Arthur Rishi) writes:


>Forgive me if this is a frequently-asked-question, but I just started reading
>this newsgroup.

     Rush's e-mail address is :  70277.2502@compuserve.com

>My question is: what is Rush's Compuserve address? Can one send him mail from
>the Internet?


       Yes, you can.

>Thank you.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm)
Subject: My fellow citizens?????????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:15:46 GMT

   The subject says it all.  Whatever happened to my fellow Americas?
I don't care if you're black, white, oriental, or some mixture.  The president
reports to Americans, not just citizens.   God, this makes me ill!
  
   Oh, I can say God without offending, right?  After all Bill said it several
times yesterday.



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From: kebarnes@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: New Kervorkian/Death Update?
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:22:14 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

Rush did a new "Dr. Kervorkian/Death Update" yesterday (1/21/93) with a
really cheesy folky new theme? Anybody heard of it?

Lyrics include:
"Well, I'm not afraid of dying..."
and chorus "it's cold, really? cold, way down there..."

singer backed by banjo and drums.

Any clues? Send 'em in to 'HIT' LIST H.Q...

-- 
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*(-)**Memphis,TN********75320,711@compuserve.com**********************
"When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President;
I'm beginning to believe it."--Clarence Darrow
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From: budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd)
Subject: Re: Aargh!!! Rush re-runs!
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 20:48:35 GMT

In article <C1Iz9L.Aq2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
>What's Rush doing this week?  All I've seen are re-runs of his more
>recent shows.
>
>Jim Graham 
>
>        -> ->Disclaimer: I do not speak for my company. <- <-
>                          Neither do they speak for me.
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From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: Re: Aargh!!! Rush re-runs!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:52:11 GMT

graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (JIM GRAHAM) writes:

>What's Rush doing this week?  All I've seen are re-runs of his more
>recent shows.

He's in San Francisco, I believe at the annual syndicated tv flesh
peddling convention where the folks who make the programs sell to those
who broadcast them.  This morning CNN was doing a blurb on the goings
on and I noticed the Rushmeister signing autographs.

|===========================================================================|
|Don Wiggins, German-Irish-American    | Success is getting what you want.  |
| & Advance Scout for the Baby Boomers | Happiness is wanting what you get. |
|Internet: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |     -- Brother Dave Gardner        |
|===========================================================================|
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,uiuc.politics,alt.politics.elections
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Tales from the Dark Side...
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:50:33 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

Today Clinton wiped out several cornerstones of the Far Right Wing! Many
anti-abortion laws into the toilet. Dan "Our Boy" Quayl's "competitiveness
council" went into the trash can.

Thank you Bill. Fuck the Right Wing Nazis.

-Garrett

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.abortion
From: dpollard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard)
Subject: Re: Fetal Rights of Inheritance
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:39:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.211145.24668@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.ed
u writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.4673.12392@dosgate> "david meadows" <david.meadows@canre
m.com> writes:
>
>"Legal personality in the womb" is neither equivalent to nor does it
>inextricably lead to "abortion is always illegal."  An "unborn widow"
>that has never been nor never will be conceived is also a "legal
>personality" in similar circumstances, but I doubt we'd want a legal
>regime that worries more about fertile octagenarians than it already
>does.

Ah, Mr. Frank brings back my favorite law school subject.  Actually, I enjoyed 
the Rule Against Perpetuities, abolished by statute in CA, because the CA 
Legislature thought that it was too difficult to learn.

Of course the CA Legislature did not receive instruction from Prof. Chow, 
Property Master.  Of course, I owe tribute to Prof. Dukeminer as well.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.abortion
From: dpollard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard)
Subject: Re: Fetal Rights of Inheritance
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:02:20 GMT

You're right on both counts.  For some reason I wrote in my note that the 
Legislature got rid of it.  Also, I agree that lawyers should be able to deal 
with the RAP.

Perhaps Gilbert's, which sure helped me to do well, cannot be properly cited in
a document.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: The hidden costs of Environmentalism : A case study
Keywords: r-12, cars, big bucks
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:01:13 GMT

In article <C1Izsx.Jxz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes:
>tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>
>>That's a job for the free market. Instead of complaining, invent a method that
>>will do it for $10 and still stay within the regulations and you will become
>>filthy rich.
>
>   The problem is that they took a job that could be done by an individual and
>regulated to the point were it has to be done by a garage.  

Really?  You have the equipment in your garage to prevent freon leakage?
I'm sure that cost a hell of a lot more than the $110 you got charged by
the garage.  You should get yourself licensed so you can make it back
by removing freon from other people's cars.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: nfs@volkl (Norbert Schlenker)
Subject: Re: Broken Promises
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Princeton University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:00:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.005146.26725@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <ATAYLOR.93Jan20154416@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:
>>	Expect more of the same as Hero Bill takes the current
>>	deficit and, far from cutting it in half in 4 years,
>>	*increases* it every year for 4 years.
>
>Are you taking wagers on this assertion of yours?

That would need high odds.  Let's change the terms a little, by
extrapolating Nosy's "prediction" for 4 years from this year's
numbers.  Mr. Bush and the CBO say $325 billion and Mr. Hillary is
going to add $25 billion at least.  Call it $350b this year and let's
escalate it by 20% per year.  The cumulative figure over the next four
years (let's make this easy, to calendar year end 1996 - I know, I
know, they're not all Mr. Hillary's budgets - we're trying to keep
this simple) would be $1890b.

Gross public debt is a little under $4200b today.  So a pretty
liberal extrapolation would be about $6100b at Dec. 31, 1996.

I would take the "over" side of the bet.  I would even pay 2 to 1.

Norbert
nfs@cs.princeton.edu

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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Conservative Values (Re: New group proposal:)
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:24:49 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In article <1993Jan21.165231.17532@hemlock.cray.com> rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:

>Of course it has a peak.  The question is where is the peak?

>If you know, please tell us where it is and how you calculated it.

When Reagan cut the tax rates, the amount collected decreased by less than
the amount predicted.  When Reagan and Bush raised the tax rates, the
amount generated was less than predicted.

While this definitely does not show where the peak may be, it does indicate
to me that our tax rate is currently above the peak.

NOTE:  Even if you do happen to find the peak, changes in society, technology
and other taxes will quite probably move the peak next year.
-- 
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Ron Brown
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:10:40 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <HR2JXB5w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com> popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:

->gee, Tom.  Were you really expecting consistancy from neocons?  I have 
->notice lots of stories in the press nitpicking Clinton's choices.  The 
->Liberal media, (Washinton Post Weekly. Liberal Opinon, Nwe York Village 
->Voice, The Nation, ect.) have been SCATHING.  And thorough.  But I guess 
->those who snivel about the press being pro clinton and anti-Republican 
->wouldn't know about that reading only a limited selection of the media.

 Who first called Clinton the "Annointed One" ?
 If I remember right the theme before the latest flock of Clinton bashing
was, are the expectations to high ? The media is doing an overcorrection
for its past support of Clinton which just about everyone agrees occurs.
No one is buying their crap anymore and they need to pick up sales again.
They also overcorrected when they stopped bashing Clinton early in the pri-
maries. What really matters is what happened between the Democratic Conven- 
tion and the actual Election Day. He is in power now. The election is over.
Its save to bash the "Annointed One" again. We conservatives are having a
great time. Its almost impossible to watch the Rush TV show now without
splitting a seam. 

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: ivaliote@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Lotus )
Subject: Re: National debt is not bad
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:04:14 GMT

thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>How friendly might some of those neighbors have been if we were less
>powerful?  We've had a number of military conflicts with Mexico, for
>instance...

Being powerful is good.  Spending yourself into oblivion to achieve that power
is rather silly.  We are nearing that point, with some definite help from some
big mistakes known as Social Security, pork-barreling, and New Deal programs 
that were not discontinued when they were done kick-starting the country.
______________
Matt Ivaliotes				a.k.a. Lotus
ivaliote@ux1				lotus@uiuc 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: sals@deirdre.uchicago.edu (red-head fancier)
Subject: Re: Read this if you are straight!
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:23:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.212022.10517@netcom.com> rich@netcom.com (Richard  
Poppen) writes:
> Never mind that you just don't get the point of laws prohibiting
> discrimination.  Never mind the fact that the only "special" right being
> sought is the right not to be denied or lose a job or housing by reason
> of being non-straight.
Give me an example of a straight person successfully sueing for  
discrimination!!!! 
The point of anti-discrimination laws is to interfer with a person's  
ability to choose who he wants to deal with based on his personal criteria  
and to enforce what modern liberals say should be the "correct" decisions. 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm)
Subject: William Jefferson ________ Clinton
Summary: Does Bill have 4 names?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:24:56 GMT
Keywords: 4 names


   Rush said on one of his TV shows that Bill had 4 names just like
George Herbert Walker Bush.  Is there any truth to this?  Would be
funny if true, considering all the heat George took over 4 names.

   
   Another question about Bill:  From what I understand, his educational
history is as follows.  Prep School, Georgetown University (undergrad), Yale
(law school).  Is this right?  If so, doesn't sound like a man of the people
to me.



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From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Summary Mon 1/25/93
Keywords: Unofficial Summary Rush Limbaugh
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:41:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Distribution: world,usa,na,alt
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Regarding the text with Bill and Hillary in the Morning Update
(about tickets, etc.), I would like to know if this was REALLY
audio from Bill and Hillary (assuming from C-SPAN, and not
an EIB-produced thing. (I didn't hear that bit in the previous
week's programs when I did listen or watched it on TV.)

-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	BSE in BME in 1993
"You just can't promise something like that just to get elected if you
 know there's a good chance that circumstances may overtake you."
	- Bill Clinton, East Lansing MI debate, Mon Oct 19 1992
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From: mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: control
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:11:48 GMT

In article <1k6fpkINNhbv@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.162005.22316@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>>In article <1k6bmsINNg34@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>>>I am vitally concerned that you would reduce me to a subclass of both
>>>citizen and human being.
>>This seems to me to be precisely as valid as claiming that
>>requiring me to register for the draft reduces men to less-than-people.
>>Certainly, I would say that if your argument wrt abortion has force,
>>then conscription reduces men to less than people.
>
>
>I would agree.
>
>I think conscription *does* reduce men to less than people.
>
Me, too.  That's what those black arm bands were
all about.

muriel
standard disclaimer
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