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From: Brenda.Mueller@f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Brenda Mueller)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Anybody who is deaf-blind
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:35:49 GMT
Reply-To: Brenda.Mueller@f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1055 - The Keeping Room, Baltimore MD

Index Number: 20970

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Bill, I am rather puzzled.  I hope you don't mind me dropping in on
your discussion, but I'm interested and hope you don't mind. You
say: "We have a blind-deaf student just north of us but he has
beenprofoundly deaf annd blind since birth and will never be able
to use acomputer."  Why not? If there are cumputer systems that
produce output in braille, just as there is voice for other blind
users? I am not deaf, but I am blind, but at work I do not have a
voice computer.  For years I have been using an optacon to read the
screen and hope to have that output in braille verry verry soon.
The optacon will just be used for other things such as printed
material not in the computer.  Why can't he use a computer then, or
become a programer, if that's what he wanted to do? Perhaps it's
just a case of not knowing what's out there, and that's why you
have made the presumption you have made.  There could also be other
factors involved.  Well, we all have a lot of learning to do, and
there are people on this echo much more knowledgeable about
computers and everything out there than I.  If you happen to want
information on this topic and what's really out there, you've come
to the right place.  I have found the people on this echo to be
verry friendly and willing to help.  If I ever get really stumped
on something, I would not hesitate to post a question here.
Brenda.

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: New JAWS Release
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:56:16 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20886

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Yes, the new Jaws release looks considerably better.  The new
install procedure for installing the software is much nicer, the
smart screen feature works pretty well, and it is nice to see that
Jaws finally has a auto loading feature for loading the correct
macro files etc. for the software that you are using and reloading
the Jaws default macro set when you return to the DOS prompt.
Looks like they are starting to catch up to some of the more
popular sophisticated speech packages.

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From: Walter.Siren@p18.f5.n396.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Siren)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: ansi.sys and dos v5.x
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:22:41 GMT
Reply-To: Walter.Siren@p18.f5.n396.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:396/5.18 - Pontchippi, New Orleans LA

Index Number: 20930

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 AH>      2:  Have you heard any vendor talk about just fixing their screen
 AH> reader program to use the new ansi driver?  That would be best, but it is
 AH> an approximate world we live in marginally.

Both asap, and jaws have fixed their screen readers to be able to
use the dos 5.0 ansi.sys.

               Walter

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From: Bob.Zuzak@f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Zuzak)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Large print software to use in Semantics Q & A
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:15:43 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Zuzak@f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:141/420.0 - The Handicap News, Shelton CT

Index Number: 20908

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Aloha from Hawaii,

I am looking for commercial software program that will enlarge
print while working with Q & A word processing program.  The
shareware programs only seem to work at DOS text mode and not able
to be integrated with commercial word processing programs.

Would appreciate any help and will contact this board next
weekend.

			Mahalo Nui Loa (Thanks alot)  Bob

 * Origin: The Handicap News BBS (1-203-337-1607) (1:141/420.0)
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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Large print software to use in Seman
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:42:43 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20956

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Your best choices are VISTA VGA from Telesensory Systems Inc., very
expensive $2,295 but gives excellent large print and is very
flexable. OR Zoomtext, a softtware only based large print solution
that works well, but may not be as flexable as Vista, but costs
only $595 for the delux version that will handle graphics and
Windows 3.0.

both of these can be purchased through Telesensory Systems at (800)
227-8418.

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From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED IN NEW JERSEY
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:19:59 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21021

Sounds to me like it may be time to carry your complaints to the
federal level in places such as the Office of Contract Complaince,
the EEOC, etc.

To say nothing of your elected representatives, of course, this
being an election year and thus the only time when they *may*
listen.

Don't neglect the media, either. Publicity can add a *lot* of
pressure.
From: Sheila.Fava@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila Fava)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Congratulations in order
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:49:40 GMT
Reply-To: Sheila.Fava@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL

Index Number: 21029

[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

             CONGRATULATIONS ARE IN ORDER

    Juan Dixon, a long time elite-level power lifter,
    is the United States Cerebral Palsy Athletic As-
    sociation's male athlete  of  the  year.  The 27
    year old  has  been lifting competitively at the
    national and international  level  for  the last
    twelve  years.  His recognized world record lift
    of  137.5 kg  (302.5 pounds)  was established at
    the 1990 World Championships in Assen Holland.

    Juan graduated from Roger L.  Putmnam  Vo-Tech High
    School in Springfield, Massachusetts.  He is a 1990
    graduate of Springfield Technical community College
    with a degree in  Computer  Maintenance Technology.

    Juan is an outstanding role model  and spends  much
    of  his spare time working with young athletes.  He
    is  on  the  Board  of Directors of United Cerebral
    Palsy  of  Western  Massachusetts as well as the US
    Cerebral Palsy Athletic Association Board of Direc-
    tors.  Juan's hobbies include COMPUTERS model rail-
    roads and reading.

    Re-Posted from UPDATE -- The Newsletter of USCPAA.
    Winter 1992  Vol. 5   Number 2

                    ---Sheila.

                    ** HOST(ess) ADA-ATHLETE Conference **
 * QNet3 * * Pick's Place * Green Village, NJ * 201-765-0164 * HST/v32 *

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From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: When is a Minority not a Minority?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:17:45 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 20808

>In a message to John Desantis <11 Mar 92 20:48> Gordon Gillesby wrote:
>
> GG>   There exist no known (to me) agencies, public or private which
> GG> are seeking to produce reliable, verifiable statistics regarding
> GG> all people with disabilities.  Private sector estimates are
>
>     The social security administration pays quite a few under the SSDI and SSI
> programs and I would think they have a fair handle on the numbers.

That doesn't necessarily follow. I am constantly advised that one
of the reasons more isn't being done to a) combat discrimination b)
implement civil rights legislation, for the disABLED is the fact
that they are not defined as a "minority" by the feds in the same
sense other groups are. Therefore, there is no compliance
auditing/reporting in place, as there is for ethnic minorities,
etc.

Until this changes, we are going to remain second-class citizens.

Sez me,

W. K. (Bill) Gorman
From: Curtis.Delzer@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Curtis Delzer)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: FLEA PROBLEMS
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:54:26 GMT
Reply-To: Curtis.Delzer@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA

Index Number: 20988

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

this sound weird but really works--give your dog garlic in whatever
form.  Fleas hate it--you might get fleas on you but, they won't be
on the pooch, not much anyhow.  A good tar shampoo readily
available from most veterinarians will help, but the garlic really
works!

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From: David.Jackson@f99.n215.z1.fidonet.org (David Jackson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Double Talk
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:35:17 GMT
Reply-To: David.Jackson@f99.n215.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:215/99 - Blink Connection, San Leandro CA

Index Number: 21185

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Well, Walter.  The main thing which I didn't likabout the newer
version of JAWS is that you have to jump between three lines to
write the macros!  In the earlier version that I was using, version
1.66; it was a single line editor.  And it was easy to blend both
JAWS and program commands into the macros.  If you know of another
way to do this with the newer versions, please explain it to me.
I'm always interested in this type of information.  Dave jackson.

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: movies
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:09:28 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 21119

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, Steve.

The best NTN movie I ever saw was the narrated version of "it's a
Wonderful Life" -- a masterful job.  I like Mr. Stovall's philosophy of
not describing everything to the point of gushiness -- saw an interview
with him in the Braille Forum a while back.  Stovall is the guy who
started NTN.  Anyway, wish I'd had a VCR tape handy so could've taped
it.

-Mike <K7UIJ>-
... *The National Federation of the Blind is changing what it means to be blind.*
___
 * CRR QWK 1.40 *

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From: Barbara.Akin@p0.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Akin)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Reflecting
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:33:45 GMT
Reply-To: Barbara.Akin@p0.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15.0 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ

Index Number: 21178

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Well, I guess I just have to blow off some steam here and get this off
my chest.
It seems we're still living in the dark so to speak when it comes to the
way some people view me as a blind person. Frankly, I whish to hell
people would stop seeing the disability first and just see me as a
"normal" (for lack of a better word,) person!
Two insodence illistrate the problem.
1. I went into a magic shop that also sells novelties the other day.
I bought a really funny T shirt that has piggys all over it.
The funny part is that they are all makin baccon, or making babies so to
speak!!!
The guy who owned the shop quips "Well--You could get away with wearing
that"
I imagine he was thinking that others would think I wouldn't know what I
was wearing and That's why Icould "get away with it".
Isn't that absolutely ridiculous???
God, I can't believe it!!
2. I was on the tandom bike today with my daughter who is 10, driving.
A guy stops and says in utter astonishment "What are You doing out here
like that? That has to take a lot of faith!!!"
Oh Lord, when does it end?
What the hell are people thinking out there anyway?
Sure does get old!
So, there it is, more of the crap!
Any thoughts?

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From: Carl.Zebooker@p7.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Carl Zebooker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Voice computers or what
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:58:21 GMT
Reply-To: Carl.Zebooker@p7.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/349.7 - PerManNet, Washington DC

Index Number: 20891

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I use a text magnification program called "ZoomText."  Some
other text magnification programs are "InFocus" and "PC
Lens." There are more, but I don't know their names.

If your friend has usable sight, try issuing the following
command at the DOS prompt:

      mode con: cols=40

This will configure the display for 40 columns, and display larger characters.

If your friend requires speech synthesis, some of the
popular programs are "VocalEyes," "Artic," "Jaws," and
"DoubleTalk."

Since I don't use speech synthesis, I can't be of much more
help here.  Scan the topics of messages for the names of
speech synthesis packages.

I hope this helps.

Carl Z.

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From: Larry.Skutchan@f120.n2320.z1.fidonet.org (Larry Skutchan)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jiffy Caps
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:30:02 GMT
Reply-To: Larry.Skutchan@f120.n2320.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2320/120 - MicroTalk BBS, Louisville KY

Index Number: 20963

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Dave.  Right now, the only way you can vary the pitch of what's
pronounced as a capital is to change the synthesizer table.  Just load
dectalk.tbl into an editor and change the pitch values in there to
whatever you want them to be.  Some day, I'd like to add a parameter to
let you specify the notches to bump for higher pitch.  Right now, it is
set to 5 notches.

You can download the synthesizer tables from the board.  I think the
file name is tbl.zip.

On the laptop, if it is an XT (with an XT bios), you might have to use
keys that the bios recognizes for those functions.  Give me a call if
you need some help doing that.

Take care.

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From: Paul.Guido@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Guido)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Shopping
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:35:06 GMT
Reply-To: Paul.Guido@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21184

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 NF> do a major grocery shopping, what would you do?  Would you seek
 NF> the help of a sighted friend?  Someone in the store itself?
 NF> Have someone shop for you (one of those shopping services)? Or
 NF> would you attempt to do it yourself?

here is what i do.  once a month somebody takes me shopping to buy a
majority of the heavy stuff.  this is supplimented by me going to the
store several times during each week where somebody from the supermarket
helps me. I BUY ONLY WHAT I CAN CARRY WHICH IS NOT MUCH AT ONE TIME.
thats what i do for food but as far as cloths etc.  i do that
myself.  i believe that ALL  blind and so called "different"SHOULD BECOME
VISIBLE WITHIN A COMMUNITY SO THAT SEEING THE BLIND BECOMES SO COMMON
THAT ALL FEARS, APPREHENTION, STEREOTYPES DISAPPEAR SOMEDAY.

... Paul

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From: Christopher.Hill@p233.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Christopher Hill)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: nls tb developments
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:30:20 GMT
Reply-To: Christopher.Hill@p233.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/4115.233 - Southern Crossroads, Grapevine TX

Index Number: 20964

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DP> At the risk of seeming intrusive re your discussion of
 DP> synthesized speech reading books, I use my own imagination
 DP> to add the stresses etc where tyey should be, much as I do
 DP> when reading braille, or using the opticon, or probably
 DP> the same way a sighted person does when reading.  I often
 DP> find readers place drama where I would prefer they
 DP> wouldn't, and vice versa.  I would rather dictate my own
 DP> emotional feelings to myself with my own mind than have
 DP> someone else do it for me.  Further, I can tell my
 DP> computer to shut up at will, find a specific test within
 DP> seconds, etc.  You can't do all that with a tape recorder,
 DP> only some of it.

All good points, but I'll stick by my contension that synthesized
speech wares on the nerves after several hours.  Also, even the
best scanning equipment messes up words once in a while, which can
really drag down a good part of a story.  Later..

 Chris

... its only a hobby, only a hobby, only...

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From: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Sepke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Ada And Money Printing
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:26:42 GMT
Reply-To: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/2 - Man-Net-EC, Winnipeg MB

Index Number: 21145

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

>In my opinion, there aren't enough of us to make Brailling money
>worthwhile.  IMHO the expense of retooling etc (assuming we could come
>up with the technology) isn't worth it.
Hi Mike, as a point of interest when I was in Europe 2 years ago I was
surprised to note that Holland uses different sized bills with
distinct markings using some type of thick ink.  I wasn't there long
enough to master or form an opinion on the system, but to me it seemed
Holland was making an interesting attempt.
- Glen -

 ** OMKREAD w/QWK v2.01 **

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From: Dan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Kysor)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: DOG GUIDE RULES
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:54:04 GMT
Reply-To: Dan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA

Index Number: 20987

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

i am sure there are some like yourself who feel obedience is
unnecessary but most the major guide dog schools insist upon
obedience and for good reason.

if your dog feels it's punishment, its the way your your conducting
obedience. obedience should be positive and relaxing but re
enforcing the idea that "your" in command.  of course, i am not one
to do obedience with my dog everyday but about 3 or 4 times per
week but i don't buy no obedience and i believe your school holds
to this as well.

dan... remember the basics!

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From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Blind fold the sighted
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:45:37 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 20980

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 >      No, blindness might not be an invisible disability in all cases,
 > or
 > even in most cases given a long enough exposure, but I simply can't
 > buy
 > your argument that it NEVER is!

OK, you brought up excellent exceptions to my argument, all of
which I agree with.  I was thinking of the totally blind person who
doesn't make eye contact or doesn't always look in the correct
direction when speaking to someone because they moved in a flash
from one point to another, or the person with deformed eyes that
just don't look right, that's what I had in mind when I wrote my
piece.  Also, wrongly so probably, I tend to think of the word
"blind" as meaning exactly that--anything other than stone-blind to
me is somewhat partially sighted, even if the "partial" is measured
in five decimal points.

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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From: Tim.Cordes@f720.n283.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Cordes)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: SHOPPING
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:34:53 GMT
Reply-To: Tim.Cordes@f720.n283.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:283/720 - C-Shift Phoenix, Waterloo IA

Index Number: 21183

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

-> Or would you attempt to do it yourself?

        As a part of my mobility instruction, I've been taught to use a
local grocery store.  Granted, I don't know where everything is and have
to ask for help now and again, it is a pretty worthwhile endeavor.  It
may be overkill, who knows, but I think it increases your confidence to
know you can find most of it on your own.

                                        Tim

---FidoPCB v1.0 [NR]

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From: spgreg@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Ada And Money Printing
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:27:20 GMT
Reply-To: spgreg@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21208

In article <21145@handicap.news>, Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org writes...
>Index Number: 21145
>surprised to note that Holland uses different sized bills with
>distinct markings using some type of thick ink.  I wasn't there long
>enough to master or form an opinion on the system, but to me it seemed
>Holland was making an interesting attempt.
>- Glen -

Most European countries use different sized bills and different
colors on the bills for different currency denominations.  It has
often been remarked that the USA has the most boring money in the
world.  The raised markings on most of the European money is not
thick ink, but warping of the fibers due to pressure treatment, the
same as with braile...

I am not blind, and found the differences in the denominations
useful.  I could reach into my pocket and locate the specific bills
I wanted, and I didn't have to pull all of my money out and count
it to see if I could afford to purchase something.

Greg
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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: COBOL Compiler
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:02:03 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20998

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I am looking for a COBOL compiler that works well with speech, uses
COBOL 84 conventions and disk based documentation, a tutorial would
be helpful also.  If you know of one please get back to me soon as
we are going to have a need to use such a software with a student
in our training program within the next 30 to 60 days.  I am
keeping fingures crossed for a shareware package, but if not then
we will have to do what we have to do.

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