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From:         "Leonard M. Brush" <lb1z+%ANDREW.CMU.EDU@CARNEGIE.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Project Management Software

DITTO THIS ENLIGHTENED VIEW FROM CHUCK THOMAS:

Some years ago I re-discovered a fact of life about complex schema like
CPM (critical path method), PERT, and other project management systems.
90% of the benefit comes from 10% of the effort, and the marginal 10%
of the benefit comes from the rest of the effort (90%).  The primary
90% level benefit is getting agreement upon, writing down, and
distributing WHO is going to do WHAT, and WHEN, then keeping that list
up to date during the project.  Almost any of the project management
software packages listed provide those basic capabilities, so you
should minimize your time, cost, and grief in chosing a friendly
package, then get on with the hard part... getting people to agree on
the WHO, WHAT and WHEN.
     Personally I use MS-Project because it integrates well with the
rest of my software, and the academic price ($149) was attractive.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:19:00 EST
From:         Edward Delaney - a rumor in his own time <EDWARDD@YIN.EARLHAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Project Management Software

I used CA-Super Project extensively at my previous place of employement
(An electric utility), I also have looked carefully into MS-Project.

While I found them both extremely robust, I would second
Marla Thomas' comment that they may not be useful for our profession,
where we have a wide mix of large and small concurrent projects handled by
relatively small crews.

If you are building a generating station, a large builing, a bridge, or a
pipeline, these products can handle them.  They assume you have large
projects that have a definite start and stop, and that your job is mainly
project scheduling.  They also assume that you have a pretty good idea
of the project managment jargon and mindset, which takes a while to learn.
They are good at doing cost and time estimating, and allow entry of actual time
and costs for comparison reporting, take into account personal vacation
schedules and holidays, etc , and LOTS more. Thier user interfaces I found
well designed.

Like Stephan Stackhouse, I found them to be overkill; WAY too much for
IS projects.  I found it especially frustrating to build into them the
idea of projects that are perpetual - user support, database administrator
work,  overhead time like organization and planning meetings etc.  These
never start, never end, have no dependencies, and take up a
noticeable amount of staff time.

My advice: Keep it simple!

ed

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:02:32 EST
From:         rick <RXP7607@RITVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: student directory information
              25 Jan 1993 09:01:00 EDT from <csvcas@ADMIN.AC.EDU>

Rochester Institute of Technology takes a fairly conservative approach
to FERPA and the definition of "directory" information.
Annually, the Registrar distributes a memorandum to faculty/staff that
states that: "RIT may release directory information, however, it is not
obligated to do so"...and that directory information includes "Name,
academic program of study, home and local address, place of birth, dates
of attendance at RIT, degrees and other honors awarded by RIT,and most
recent previous educational institution attended by the student."

We assume all students to be independant adults, hence will not release
such restricted information as grades, financial status, etc to parents
without written approval from the student - or - proof of the student's
dependance (most recent fed tax filings) (and we require the latter each
time a parent wants access to the record).

We do not produce address lists or mailing labels for parties outside
the RIT community - one area where we have decided not to release
directory information.  Students who elect to have directory data with-
held, have their entire record suppressed when we print and distribute
listings to on-camus organizations; their records are not suppressed
from reports & listings created for RIT faculty/staff; their records
are not suppressed from on-line inquiry (available to selected faculty
and staff).

Rick Pettinger
Associate Registrar
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:09:11 -0800
From:         "David W. Tindall" <dtindall@PAUL.SPU.EDU>
Subject:      CD-ROM Servers for Library Databases

This message is being posted to CUMREC-L and PACS-L -- sorry for the
cross postings and/or duplicate messages.

At SPU (small private school) we have a small number of stand alone
CD-ROM stations that have various library databases (Silver Platter,
etc..) loaded. We are planning on moving to a CD-ROM Server approach
and I am looking for suggestions about the hardware platform.

I have looked at the DEC/InfoServer and Logicraft's CD Server. What
other vendors should I be evaluating?

I have an ethernet campus-wide network that I'd like to deliver services
to (including PC's and Mac's) (the network runs DECnet and TCP/IP).

Respond to me directly, and I'll summarize for the LIST(s).

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*  David W. Tindall                                        *
*  Seattle Pacific University                              *
*  Computer & Information Systems                          *
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:09:52 GMT
From:         Roy Martin <CCSYS005@CCSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TT SLOTS FOR LATE TRANSFERS

In reply to the request for information about manually assigning registration
time slots for late applications:

(This applies to how we do EARLY registration: REGULAR reg. is another story.)
Here at CCSU we also assign 'tally times' for students to register.  We have
a batch program that queries the number of candidates to register for the
semester, asks the user for the time slots available, (it divides them into
1/2 hour blocks), divides the number of students to register by the number
of slots available, then finally, sorting descending by hours earned, assigns
the appropriate number of students per 1/2-hour block.  The sort results in
those who are closest to graduating getting first shot at the classes.

(We also divide the group into Graduates and Undergrads, but let's not muddy
the topic with that.)

Now for the question: what do you do with students who
apply AFTER the 'tally times' have been assigned?  At CCSU we have a program
that the Admissions Office uses to manually assign times.  Normally we leave
a large time block at the end of early registration for these students, and
the Admissions Office people just stick all late new applicants into the first
slot in that time block.  (They are ALL given that first 1/2 hour.)  Also, if
a student complains that he/she is being unfairly treated by having such a
late time slot & whines to the appropriate official, the Admissions Office may
RESCHEDULE, his/her time slot.  (They can change ANY student's 'tally time'.)

One might be concerned that overloading a time slot will cause undue burden on
the system.  Not so.  Most students don't show up exactly at their time during
early registration anyway.  They wander in some time AFTER the time.  Thus you
normally end up with a snow-ball effect, no matter how you assign the time
slots.  We've had requests to "front-load" the system to try and combat the
snow-ball problem, but so far there's been only academic interest,
(no pun intended), in that debate.

Good luck,
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jan 1993 13:44:21 EDT
From:         Mike Drischler <MWD100S@ODUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Database Survey

We are are starting the process of evaluating new database management systems,
and would like to get some answers to some very simple and basic questions.
We currently are running an IBM 3090-200, MVS, with CICS 2.1.2.  Our current
DBMS is TOTAL by CINCOM Systems, of which 90% of our applications use.  The
applications currently using TOTAL are Admissions, Registration, Accounts
Receivable, Degree Audit, and some Accounts Payable.  We are open minded and
are willing to consider P.C. based systems.

1.  What DBMS is your college/university using and what platform is the DBMS
    running on?
2.  If you converted from one DBMS to another recently (last 5 yrs) what was
    the previous DBMS?
3.  Has anyone converted from TOTAL to another DBMS?
4.  What applications are running under the DBMS?
5.  What was the primary reason for selecting your particular DBMS?
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:09:05 CST
From:         Joe Moore <CC19@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>

<listowner's note:  I was asked to post this on behalf of CAUSE.
Please direct all questions or responses to the address at the
end.--Joe Moore>

Call for Nominations.

CAUSE has established two award programs related to the challenge of
enhancing the administration and delivery of higher education through
information technology. One honors people, the other infrastructure--two key
elements in the successful deployment of IT on campus.

--- The CAUSE ELITE Award for Exemplary Leadership and Information
Technology Excellence honors individuals who contribute significantly to the
success of their institutions through visionary direction and management of
information technology (deadline for nominations March 1, 1993);

--- The CAUSE Award for Excellence in Campus Networking, a new award this
year, will recognize colleges and universities that have created outstanding
networked systems on campus that allow staff, students, and faculty to be
more productive in today's heavily networked environment (deadline for
nominations March 31, 1993).

CAUSE invites you to nominate a colleague and the networking achievements on
your campus for the 1993 awards. Nomination brochures are available from
CAUSE, info@CAUSE.colorado.edu, or phone (303) 449-4430.
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Reply-To:     tmorgan@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From:         Tim Morgan <tmorgan@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA>
Subject:      Examination Scheduling

Memorial University of Newfoundland offers some 2300 course sections to
12,000 full-time undergraduate students in each of the Fall and Winter
semesters. Multi-section courses account for 1150 course sections.

Final examinations are scheduled over a nine-day period, with three
examinations per day. Common final examinations are written in
multi-section courses.

Presently, an examination schedule is generated on the basis of course
registrations. However, there is interest in moving to a predetermined
schedule to be published in conjunction with the Class Schedule of
course offerings. Given that common examinations are written in multi-
section courses, the problem is more complex than attaching an
examination time to a class meeting time.

If you use a predetermined examination schedule with common final
examinations, or have attempted without success to implement one,
we would appreciate any information that you could provide.

Tim Morgan
Records and Registration Manager
Memorial University of Newfoundland
Bitnet: tmorgan@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Voice: 709-737-8692
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:01:00 EDT
From:         "Cathy A. Shawver" <csvcas@ADMIN.AC.EDU>
Subject:      student directory information

Upon reading a Fact Sheet about the Family Educational Rights and Privacy
Act (FERPA) distributed by the US Dept of Education, I understand that
schools may disclose, without consent, "directory" type information such as
a student's name, address, telephone number, date & place of birth, honors
and awards, and dates of attendance.  It stipulates that schools must tell
parents and students of the information that is designated as directory
information and allow them the ability to request non-disclosure.

Since it seems to leave some room for definition of what specifically is
designated as "directory type" information, I would like to know more
specifically what other colleges have done in this area.

-- What list of information does your school officially recognize as
   "directory type" information.

--  What lists or publications are students which request non-disclosure
    omitted from?

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*  Computer Services                *
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:30:48 PST
From:         "Lou Browdy, Accounting Office,
              Univ of Cal" <AC00LOUB@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Parking Info

Here is a response from our Parking Services Field Supervisor to the request
posted early this month.  John's phone is (805) 893-2356 & E-Mail
PK04MURP@UCSBVM.BITNET.
*** Forwarding note from PK04MURP--UCSBVM   01/26/93 14:27 ***
To: AC00LOUB--UCSBVM   Lou M. Browdy

From: John H. Murphy
Subject: Parking Info

Hi, Lou. Here's a thumbnail sketch of the requested information;
All vehicles are required to display a permit. Permits are sold
annually, quarterly, or at the kiosks for daily, 3 hour, or 30
minute increments.

    annual--- $132.00
    quarter--   33.00
    daily----    5.00
    3 hour---    3.00
    30 min.--     .25

Annual permits for faculty and staff are renewed thru the mail. Students
not living in dorms must show proof of address that is greater than one mile
from campus to buy annual or quarterly permits.They purchase their permits
in the Parking Services office. All quarterly permits are sold at our office
to those staff and faculty who can verify their status.

Dorm students' permits are obtained thru lottery (approx. 800).

Parking citations are hand written and entered in a computer later.We
are considering going to an automated (handheld) ticket writer but
have heard some negative comments about some systems.

I hope this helps answer some of your questions. J.
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From:         "wbell@micf.nist.gov (Wilma Bell)" <WBELL@NBSMICF.BITNET>
Subject:      Text of M. Angelou's Inaug. Poem

Thanks for your time and genorosity in sharing this with the rest of us.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:50:55 EDT
From:         David Linder <DWL@APMATHS.UWO.CA>
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Subject:      cultured
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*cultured* means grown in a petri-dish, like bacteria.

Dave Linder       dwl@apmaths.uwo.ca
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:10:41 CST
From:         steve <SPAM@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject: Re: comments?
              27 Jan 1993 18:34:56 PST from <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US>

Not to start any trouble (like Uncle Timmie did with the Owl Creek Bridge
bit), but what movie is that "Steenking Badges" thing from?  I know the
line, but I don't think I've ever actually seen the original.  Ain't kulcha
grand?

steve harris
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:00:00 PST
From:         naomi seeger <ECZ5SEE@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 2 more pomes

uncle timmie...o uncle tiiiimmie...someone just saluted the poetry flag.

on another subject entirely -- has anyone read tartt's _secret history_?
wow.  loved it.  couldn't put it down, et cetrah...  anyone else impressed
or otherwise?  as i was going along, i kept wondering how she was going
to present bunny's murder - what position was she going to take?  how
would her characters react, respond - what reasons would she give them
for doing it?  and what would be the emotional impact afterwards?  it
was fascinating watching her weave her story.

naomi seeger
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:09:08 -0500
From:         MCW001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Poet Laureate
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        WRONG sir, the Prez dosen't pick the PL-the librarian of Congress
has the honor... And, as listed before, Mona Van Duyn was the last
tapped for he honor-1992...
        (By the way, I apologize for the McGlaughlin response in the
beginning of this post... My cat just drew about a pint of blood
from my leg as he jumped off...)
                                                Marc C. Wilson
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Cees Nooteboom - modern novels (rather short)

From a Dutch Mountain - a combination of realism and fairy tale re: writing the
   novel and a circus couple
Rituals - a Japanese pottery cup and a man seeking identity and losing his
   religion
Truth and Semeblance - a Balkan tale of war and writing
The Knight has Fallen - finding a dead author through finishing his book
Phillip -

Bears some similarity to Italo Calvino or Milan Kundera in the sense that 200 years from now you would clearly recognize them as from the same era
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:18:02 -0500
From:         STU_CDHERBER@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Maya Angelou - Poet Laureate?

Does anyone know where I could obtain a copy of "On the Pulse of Morning?"
I was disappointed by the failure of my local newspaper editors to include
the text in the morning edition.

Thanks,  Deming
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:31:00 CST
From:         $L$LB4I@LUCCPUA.BITNET
Subject:      Angelou's poem

Maya Angelou's inaugural poem can be found in the January 21st
editions of the New York Times and USA Today.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:06:50 -0800
From:         David Loftus <djl@MAILHOST.PP.PDX.EDU>
Subject:      Quote of the Day

When an old person dies, it's like a library burning.     -- Alex Haley
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:38:19 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: 2 more pomes

naomi, it's great to see a post from you.  This list has been moribund for
far too long, so let's talk about books, books, books!

Isn't the author of *Secret History* Tritt?  Sorry to ask such an insipid
question . . .

I haven't read *Secret History*, but you are one of several people whose
opinions I respect that have recommended it most highly, so I'll try to
read it right away, more-or-less, and get back to you on the subject real soon.

best,
michael mcdonald
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From:         "wbell@micf.nist.gov (Wilma Bell)" <WBELL@NBSMICF.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Maya Angelou - Poet Laureate?

Angelou was born is Stamps, Arkansas so that makes her an Arkansan.
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From:         David Loftus <djl@MAILHOST.PP.PDX.EDU>
Subject:      Quote of the Day
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A 1631 edition of the Bible omitted one word.  The Seventh Commandment read,
"Thou shalt commit adultery."
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