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From: marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: My apology (Re: Keep flaming, Panda!  Was: New Winner!)
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:48:55 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <40682@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, mliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Panda ) writes:
> 
> 	When I started posting in the r.a.a. I was inspired by the long and
> what I think is unnecssary posting. I know full well if I critize anything
> or anyone on the net and two thing will eventually result from this. 
> 
> 	I. I get sick of flame and resign.
> 
> 	II. I keep on the net and kiss up to the flamer and become one of
> 	    them.
> 
> 	The very reason I refuse to resign is because flame is the way of
> force resginition and I am not going to go for that. Rich at Freenet
> mistaken my good intentionsas a weakness and a preclude to resignition.
> Well, fat chance. I will not be pushed to resign. People appearantly has not
> been using the n key and give me tons of reply on net. I can careless
> because I just press n when I have no wish to read anything. I am sorry the
> semi-serious copyright article got so many replies. I thought not that many
> poeple read articles. It was meant only for maybe 5-6 people on the net to
> have read the article. 
> 
> 	I don't like politics and I don't read anything that smell like it
> for the last four years. I don't like to point this out but news net is not
> a free for all place. Let's say if I post 1000 articles everyday just to
> piss people off. Ultimately, someone will step out to stop it. That is what
> I meant by r.a.a. administrator. 
> 
> 	One more thing. As regrad to Gil Liu, it is still true that my post
> in the pre-Gil Liu period was trying to explain my position on KOR and KOR
> fans. It degenerate into a flame war after Gil Liu and Rich from Freenet
> started to attack me. I did not attack nor point fingers at an individual   
> before Gil Liu post the article with my e-mail in it. Furthermore, the posts
> follows clearly was aimed and directed as if my e-mailis a post.         
> 
> 
> 					Na Ni Ja Wa Panda From China
> 					-Kasumi's Pet
> 					-Defender fo Kodachi, Akemi,.......
>  
>  
As an innocent bystander who has never seen KOR, I think I can be a bit 
objective about this. Panda you are the problem here. It's ok to have 
contradicting beliefs. It's ok to discuss them on the net. It is not ok to 
call people idiots and other nasty things because you disagree with them, 
that is childish. Now I admit that people on the other side have done the 
same thing, but you seem (from what I have seen, and I may well be wrong.) 
the worst offender. If you keep calling names at each other (this applies 
to both sides) all you do is make yourselves look childish. This is not a 
personal attack and it is not a flame; I'm just trying to give some 
usefull advice.


----Marc Seebass
"To fight is wrong, but to loose a fight over principles you deem 
honerable is worse." A poster in Master Kang's Dojo.
From: dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Gap in Gundam timeline...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:36:22 GMT

I've just recently noticed the big gap between Char's and F91.  Does anything
happen during that period?  Or are they going to "get back to it" like stardust
or War in the Pocket?

BTW is the series Silhouette Formula F91 going to be TV or OVA?  And when is it
going to be released?

Dick
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Subject: Re: Macross II music
From: eabu288@orion.oac.uci.edu (Alvin Chiu-Wen Chen)
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:29:17 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: CD's


I just got my Macross II cd last Sunday.  I got it from the Book Nippan store.  You may try Laser Perception in San Francisco.  They do mail order and they will probably charge 30 for the cd.
From: prisoner@west.darkside.com (The Prisoner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Macross II
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:33:27 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

fongj@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca ( chun kwai jay  fong) writes:

> Hi Mike,
> 
>   Macross II vol. 2 is out?  Great!  Is it available yet?
> 
> Jay
> 
> p.s.  do I just write a letter directly to USR or do I send it to Bob Napton
> (in which case an address would help)


It's not out yet... Give it about 2 weeks.
(Spoke to them about it last night...)

It seems like things are improving to the point that by Episode 5, things 
should be really great. Don't know yet, though...

SO, Another 2 weeks for Macross II Vol. 2 in English.

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From: bbs.mirage@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Jerry Lee)
Subject: Record of Lodoss War Art book
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:28:30 GMT

Are there any plans for a Record of Lodoss War/Izubuchi art book in the 
future?

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Jerry Lee (bbs.mirage@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: jeffj@yang.earlham.edu (ChaOs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RE: Zentraedi vs. Borg - Who would win?
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:21:18 GMT
Organization: Honest John's Used Toaster Emporium

In article <1992Nov4.005210.27172@wam.umd.edu>, theodore@next09cville.wam.umd.edu (Jonathan Theodore Casser) writes:
> In article <8956@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>  
> CONCEPCION%BABSON.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU writes:
>> 
>>         Don't the Zentraedi seem a little *TOO* stupid to handle the  
> Borg.
>> Something tells me that despite the genetically imprinted sense of  
> tactics
>> and strategy, the Zentraedi would still attempt brute force on the Borg,  
> as
>> Starfleet had done to its distress.  They brought in a million+  
> battlewagons
>> in Earthspace just to be wiped out in a New York minute.  What's to say  
> that
>> their battlefleets wouldn't suffer the same at the hands of the Borg.   
> This
>> is, of course, assuming that the Borg has sufficient power to withstand  
> a
>> barrage from something like the main gun of the Zentraedi Flagship.  If  
> not
>> then the whole point is moot, neh?
>>         Alright, unless the point has been brought up before, and on a  
> slightly
>> different lane on a similar highway:
>> 
>>         Who would win in a standup knockdown drag-out fight between  
> Space
>> Cruiser Yamato and the SDF-1.  We're talking full resource utility here.   
> No
>> holding back.  Reflex Guns and Wave Motion guns exchanging through the  
> stars.
>> Black Tigers and Skull Squadrons doing that dogfight thang.  Fighting in  
> a
>> thousand points of light, as both try to stay the course.  (I'm watching  
> Dana
>> Carvey's ver. of George Bush in the SNL Presidential Bash if ye didn't  
> notice.)
>> 
>> Cris Concepcion
>> Concepcion@Babson.Bitnet
>> A rider on the digital wind.
>> 
>> The Face: "What frightens you most for the future?"
>> Colin Angus: "The thing I most welcome - the apocalypse."
> 
> Its a moot point.  Who ever fired first would be in the best position, and  
> would probably win.  If one of the ships fired before the other had a  
> chance to lauch, then the battle would be pretty much decided, wouldn't  
> you say?  But, what I want to know, is what would happen if they fired at  
> the same time? 8^)

In classic anime tradition, the two blasts would hit each other and cause a big
explosion between the two ships, leaving both (more or less) unharmed.  B)

-- 
Jeff (Chaos) Johnston                               JeffJ@yang.earlham.edu
From: cstewart@npal.rn.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: HHEELLPP!! (Where IS everybody?)
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:23:57 EDT
Organization: PalNet -- Indianapolis, Indiana



...And a hearty PUMA! to you all;

HHEELLPP!!
My node is not getting any updates to any newsgroups I subscribe
to. :(
My SysAdmin says that everything is fine here, and that it must
be upstream... (My node is part of the Zeus, Hermes, ThorII
group.)
Can anyone read this?! Is there anyone left out there?!....
I can't go on alone...(choked sob). 

My SysAdmin, Steve Brant, says that I'm over-reacting again.

Are those soft, furry footsteps behind me?
("BUAKU ALWAYS OVER-ACTING! HE NOT HAVE SUBTLE PUMA TOUCH!")
I'd look around, but he's not there...
("THAT RIGHT! ME NOT THERE! ME HERE!")

If anyone can read this, please e-mail one of my addresses
below.
         Have a PUMA! day!

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From: pete@introl.com (Pete Ikusz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: TTI (NEC) TurboDuo
Date: 11 Nov 1992 10:12:42 -0600
Organization: Introl Corp.
NNTP-Posting-Host: introl.introl.com
Keywords: For anime CD games!

In article <97108@netnews.upenn.edu> din@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Clarence Din) writes:
>
>>For us anime fans, there are THREE Ranma 1/2 games, Urusei Yatsura,
>>Nadia, Future Boy Conan, Bubblegum Crisis, Yawara!, Macross,
>>and Macros II, for starters.
>
>Let's not forget Last Alert, Final Zone 2, Valis 2-4, and the Y's
>series!

Toss in:
Cosmic Fantasy II (on par with Ys I & II)
Exile
Dragon Slayer
Macross is being ported along with Spriggan
and the raft of others that are being released in the near future (< 6 months)
Dungeon Explorer II
Dungeon Master (which if it is like the Atari ST version is excellent)
These are all I can think of off the top of my head.

-Pete
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From: howland@nsipo.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: BGC GIF's
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:21:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.125545.11240@hsr.no>, geirj@hsr.no (Geir Friestad) writes:

|> VOTE LINNA! VOTE LINNA!  VO..... AAAAaaaaaaaaaaarrrgghgghhhhh!!!  (Geir is
|> suddenly, and violently beaten to death by a group of frothing, homicidal
|> Priss-maniacs....   )

I wasn't there, you can't pin this one on me!
I never laid a finger on the guy! 

Oh....Well, the baseball bat....

Curt
From: egamboa@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Noel Gamboa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: NEW PATLABOR MOVIE!
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:05:22 GMT
Organization: Operation X / UC Herald

The new Patlabor movie is due in Japanese movie theatres sometime in
the summer of 1993!  NewType readers are probably aware of this, but
there is something else for Gundam 0083 fans.  According to Animage,
there well be two people joining Headgear in creating this movie,
which marks the return of Patlabor to anime (the 2nd OAV series
ended sometime ago).

Fresh from the success of Gundam 0083, Hajime Katoki (concept
supervisor, mecha designer, vol. 12 key animator) and Shoji Kawamori
(mecha designer, mecha stylist) will be adding their talents to that
of Yutaka Izubuchi in designing and redesigning labors for this
movie, which takes place three years after the last series.

Mamoru Oshii will once again direct, and Kazunori Ito will write the
screenplay as before.  Kazunori said that Patlabor had always had
this one rule, and that is no one ever dies.  He added though that
this new movie MIGHT change that.

Hmmm... maybe we'll see an Atomic Ingram Unit 2?  

-- 
Noel Gamboa (egamboa@ucsd.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: coan@griffin (Brian M Coan)
Subject: Sailor Moon/Japanese language question
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:11:45 GMT

I like the part in Sailor Moon which comes shortly before she 
kicks emeny ass when she says (I think; I stole this from
someone's .sig):

	"Tsuki ni kawatte, oshiokoi yo!"

What's this mean???

--
Brian MacLeod Coan
coan@emba.uvm.edu
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From: geirj@hsr.no (Geir Friestad)
Subject: Those articles & Maiko Covington
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:32:56 GMT

Just a wild thought. I've read those terrific articles by Maiko Covington on life
in Japan (pulled out ALL copies of Anime Stuff, but that's another story). Does
she still have an e-mail address? I'm of course interested to know this. Replies
are all welcome via e-mail. Please leave your flamethrowers by the door, we don't
to accidentally set the school on fire. ;)

       ////////   ///////    ////////   Geir Friestad, Norway
     ///        ///   ///  ///        Internet address for
    ///        ///   ///  ///        the brave ones :
    ////////   ///////    ////////  geirj@hsr.no

Reality is for people who can't face anime / Death to bootleggers!
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From: buffoni@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (MIX the Brain)
Subject: Heidi original soundtrack
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:22:10 GMT

Could anyone tell me if there is an original soundtrack of
tv series "Heidi , shojo alps" ?
If yes, there is the version on CD.  Where I can find it ?

thanks

(e-mail me to buffoni@ghost.dsi.unimi.it)

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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: NEW PATLABOR MOVIE!
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:34:55 GMT

In article <1992@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> maxcon@server.uwindsor.ca (Christopher Leung) writes:
>Great!  Another new Patlabor movie!  And in the summer of '93!  Hmmm, since
>I'll be in Hong Kong then, maybe I'll be able to see it before it gets here to
>North America! :):):):):)  

Yaaaaay!  I can't wait to see it!  That is, whenever it gets here... :-)

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From: rau@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Drivvt)
Subject: Re: KNIGHT SABRE POLL and other things...
Organization: Menzoberranzan Computer Networking 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:47:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.143916.1778@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_falkrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>
>2)  Zendradi Vs Doomsday machine
>
>	How can you fight something that has intelligence, an almost unlimited
>supply of power (planets it eats), an inestructable nutronium hull, and a anti
>proton ray that can blow a BIG borg ship away in two or three hits.  (Read
>Vendetta for the last one)

	This whole thread is getting weird.  GB3 munches 'em all.  Ta da!

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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG in joke?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:25:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.173908.28366@wdl.loral.com> dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David) writes:
>I could be wrong....
>
>Last night, didn't the USS Enterprise rendezvous with the cargo ship B-ko?
>
There was a previous episode in which this same cargo ship appeared, but in
that one, it seemed to be clearly "Viko", and I think was also displayed 
on a panel in the episode.  

However, in this episode, it is CLEARLY (at least to my ears) that Picard
calls it "BEE-KOH".  

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu


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From: hcy@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (hon-chi.yu)
Subject: Re: Mamoru Oshii's work?? (was Re: NEW PATLABOR MOVIE!)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:31:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.190549.24083@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.184038.20591@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, tzung@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (tzung-i.lin) writes:
>> 
>> Great!!! I really like his work, BTW, what other works had Oshii
>> involved?  I can only think of the following  
>> 
>> 	1. UY 2 : Beautiful Dreamer
>> 	2. Angel's Egg -- director
>>         3. Patlabor OVA 1-6 (not 7, am I right?)
>>         4. Patlabor : the Movie
>>         5. A weird 6-oart OVA which I don't know how to translate its title.
>>         6. Morako, a movie version of the 6 part OVA.u
>
>7) Chief director for the early TV episodes of URUSEI YATSURA.
>
>Glad to find another fan of Mamoru's work.  Care to talk more about that
>"weird OVA series"?
>

I do not understand Japanese, but I think the Kanji translate to something
like "long, long live the royal ancestor-sama".   It does not look like a
science fiction anime at all.  I guess somebody else can provide more
info on this.

>-- 
>			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
>			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
>			      jester@ihlpm.att.com
>		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T

Disclaimer: I know that I am not dealing with AT&T here. ^_^
From: Donald.Wen@f201.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Donald Wen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Blowup Iczer-3?
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:41:58 GMT


 MJ> From: michaele@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael J. Edwards)

 MJ> Last night I finished painting my Iczer-3 model which is now
 MJ> sitting on my monitor as a type this.  Then, surprise,
 MJ> surprise, this morning there was a knock on the door and when I
 MJ> opened it there was a friendly Austalian Mail man.  Who after
 MJ> getting my autograph :-) gave me a bigish box from Nikaku in
 MJ> the USA!

 MJ> Well I was a little stumped as I hadn't ordered anything
 MJ> recently so with my normal amount of self-control I shredded
 MJ> the packaging (spreading those stupid foam bits all over my
 MJ> room) and discovered the
 MJ>                       "Iczer Hyper Blow Up Box"

 MJ> This is [if you have forgotten my original post] a six
 MJ> laserdisc (CAV) set of the Iczer-3 series of OAVs.  It comes
 MJ> with a colour booklet and [the bit I had trouble translating in
 MJ> the advert] a metal dogtag like Iczer-3 necklace.  The slipcase
 MJ> is actually two slipcases, one inside the other. The quality of
 MJ> the press is good, how it compares to original I don't know as
 MJ> I only had 2nd gen PAL tapes [ie LD-NTSC-PAL-PAL] previously.
 MJ> Good value at US$193 [don't ask how that's going to translate
 MJ> to AUS$ as that's on the slide at the moment...]

 MJ> One question to anyone who had an original LD:  Each episode is
 MJ> split onto both sides of a disk.  I would have thought it would
 MJ> be easy enough to fit the 30 minutes all on one side even with
 MJ> CAV.  Is the original in the same format?

 MJ> Michael
 MJ> [Who's bloody happy he's on holidays otherwise he'd have been
 MJ> very late for work today :-) ]

Michael, I have the original disks for the OAV series.  Thery are split
up into six seperate disks, each in CLV format and including chapter
breaks.  BTW, the CAV set you got is now selling for 10% over $193 in
the US, according to Laser Perceptions in San Francisco, CA.

So, how do you like the series overall?  And do you know of any scripts
in existence?  I have seen the first one but that's about it.

DONALD WEN


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From: egamboa@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Noel Gamboa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Mamoru Oshii's work?? (was Re: NEW PATLABOR MOVIE!)
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:54:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Operation X / UC Herald

In article <1992Nov9.184038.20591@cbfsb.cb.att.com> tzung@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (tzung-i.lin) writes:
>That's great news!  Summer 93?  :-(

Yep. All good things come to those who wait.  And since the LD will
show up maybe 3-4 months after the movie, we're talking October or
November before we see the LD.

>>Fresh from the success of Gundam 0083, Hajime Katoki (concept
>>supervisor, mecha designer, vol. 12 key animator) and Shoji Kawamori
>>(mecha designer, mecha stylist) will be adding their talents to that
>>of Yutaka Izubuchi in designing and redesigning labors for this
>>movie, which takes place three years after the last series.
>
>I'm not too excited over this.  If you want mecha design, there are plenty ...

Yes, there are plenty; but these two are considered the masters.
Aside from their work on 0083, Kawamori was of course known for
his work on Macross, Katoki for Gundam Sentinels.  Now Kawamori is
designing mecha for BattleTech (see latest Animedia insert for his
Wasp, Stinger, PhoenixHawk, etc. designs) while Katoki is doing
mecha design for 6 Million Miles Away, a running novel in NewType.
Oops, that's mecha *and* character design.  I should just say visual
concept. :)

Their hard-edged, mechanical style would be very welcome in the
Patlabor universe.  The later mecha in Patlabor were not as
well-designed as the Ingram, possibly because Izubuchi didn't design
them; most likely they were the other guy's (Yoshinori-whatsisname I
keep forgetting... they guy who worked on the new Tekkaman... notice
how the Tekkaman suits look like some of the labors?)

>(The Longest Day of SVD #2)  The high quality animation in Patlabor: Movie

Yes, Mamoru Oshii is an excellent director.  Most likely, the new
movie will have strong political and religious flavors like the
first one.  And since Noa isn't one of Oshii's favorite characters,
he'll likely focus on another character (the first movie's main
character was Asuma, IMHO).  Maybe Goto?
-- 
Noel Gamboa (egamboa@ucsd.edu)
From: pjconley@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Pat J Conley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: coolest villian in anime
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:21:26 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Summary: opinion only, flame as you wish
Originator: pjconley@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

  okay, i know this might sound strange, but here is my list of the
  coolest villians from anime:

	from Macross, Kamjinn(Khyron, for you ROBOTECHers)
	 sure he's psychotic, but he had style

        from Gundam(the original), Char Aznable(sp)
	 he was calm, cool, and drove me crazy cause he never
	 screwed up or lost his temper

	from Urusei Yatsura, Mendo Shuturo
	 maybe not a villian but he made poor Ataru's life hell
	 also had a sense of honor, kinda gets right here doesn't it

	 and finally the ultimate villian of anime

			CARL MACEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	mind you these are merely my humble opinions....

	gotta love my sig file!!!  
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