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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: TRICKLE-DOWN: Let us thank the conservatives!
Date: 24 Nov 1992 05:24:22 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Nov23.183140.5195@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>Trickle-down will work for India and for many other countries. It has
>already started working for India under teh aegis of its new PM, Rao. 
Well I saw in the paper yesterday that they are thinking of restoring the
maharajas, so I guess prosperity for the people of India is just around
the corner.  Gee, maybe Reagan could get a job as a maharaja.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can argue all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian)
Subject: Re: Excluding men
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:44:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.181722.11011@risky.ecs.umass.edu> rajain@scotty.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.043554.11406@cs.wayne.edu>, uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>|> 
>|> does the indian-women mailing list mean that the sci football field is now
>|> safe for the rampaging MCPs and their jokes...  I got a couple of MCP jokes,
>|> but held back seeing that the ladies onthe net dont like it at all...
>
>	Hey.....come on dooode, there ain't no more ladies on SCI now!
>
>	Post those jokes !!!!

Actually, when did the presence or absence of "ladies" stop the
fourteen-year-olds on SCI -- fascinated, yet scred out of their
minds by their nascent sexuality -- from posting MCP jokes and
gifs? Go ahead, Mr. Udayabhaskar, post those jokes, and,
you Mr. Jain, post some more gifs. If you're not old enough
to have the real thing and if you're as dumb as you seem to
be, you can at least drool on your terminal. Sounds fair
to me.

>|> Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
>|> (email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
>|> 
>	eagerly awaiting,
>
>		rAjAt 

Uma Subramanian
From: parimal@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Parimal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A query on H-2 visa, please ...
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:21:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.83777
Reply-To: parimal@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Parimal)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: parimal@doc.cc.utexas.edu

A friend wants to know which documents are needed to bring his newly wed

wife to the USA, on H-2 visa. Is I-29 a relevant document ?

Thanks in advance.

-parimal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vilok@bmerh322.bnr.ca (Vilok Kusumakar)
Subject: Computer magazines in India
Reply-To: vilok@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 03:47:51 GMT

Is somebody subscribing to Indian computer magazines ? I am
interested in the back issues of Computers Today or Dataquest
or even any other. I am ready to pay cost for the magazines and
also cost for shipping and handling. 

Please e-mail the response or call me at the following numbers.

Thanks a lot in advance.

---------------
Vilok Kusumakar                    OSI Protocols for tomorrow......
vilok@bnr.ca                       Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.
Phone: (613) 763-2273              P.O. Box 3511, Station C 
Fax:   (613) 765-4777              Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: re:Khalistan
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:59:52 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1992Nov20.114229.3761@lut.ac.uk> G.S.Samra@lut.ac.uk (GS Samra) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.011801@IASTATE.EDU> porayath@IASTATE.EDU (Rajiv Porayath) writes:
>
>The Sikh fighters were in the Akal Takhat building. There were no (at any time)
>Sikh fighters in the Golden Temple itself. The Akal Takhat was destroyed
>(reduced to rubble) completely by the Indian army and is currently being 

You are completely wrong here. The Terrorists were hiding not only in
the Akal Takht, which of course is built for war, but also inside the
sanctum sanctorum, which is the Darshana Deori. Also they were in the
Guru Ramdas Serai,  which are all  very much inside the Golden Temple 
Complex.
The Akal Takht too was not destroyed,  albeit it did suffer hits from
both the terrorists as well as the army's bullets.

>rebuilt by the Sikhs. At no time from 1982-1984 did any of the Sikhs enter
>the Golden Temple itself with guns.If you know anything about about the
>Punjab situation you would know this. Even the Indian Giovernment has at
>no times claimed that there were armed Sikhs in the Golden Temple itself.
>But despite that there were 373 bullet and mortar marks on the Golden Temple
>due to the Indina Army action.

Again wrong information. For atleast 2 years preceding the army entry
into the temple a steady buildup of arms and havens for the terrorist
elements was taking place,  and due to the extreme sensitivity of the 
nature of the place the Indian Government had to exercise too much of
caution. When the operation was completed the video tapes of the full
complex showed the places where the terrorists had taken shelter, and 
where they had hidden their arms and ammunition. During the operation
Black Thunder, the situation was even more worse.  The terrorists had
desecrated the place so much, that even the prasad vessels were used,
by them to ease themselves. It onlu goes to prove that the terrorists
had no regard for either the sanctity of the place nor any care about
the sensibilities of the people.

Regards,
Vivek.
-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Muthukumarappan Ramurthy)
Subject: Doctoral studies at Penn state and Texas A&M
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:51:00 GMT


Does anyone Know whether these two Universities admit students
for Ph.d during Spring semesters(especially in Petroleum engineering)
If so please send mail to my address mr1@ra.msstate.edu.
Thanks.
From: patel@key.amdahl.com (Chandresh Patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:46:42 GMT
Reply-To: patel@key.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced System Division

From prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
> I don't mean to be rude, but my answer is 'Tough!"

> If they treat tip as a gratuituous payment, they should shut up and take 
> what they get and be professional about it.

Tipping is a social etiquette. And it may happen that many indians only
think of their bottom line and not know why some social norms were put
in practice. The explanation in original posting of why poor tips may result
in poor service is only one good reason to be tipping with the norm.  The 
payscale for waiters is set based on the fact that they will be tipped.
I don't know why/how this system should be changed, but it exists and
we live by it or we set our indian community apart as a selfish, stingy bourgoies.

You get services for what your pay. :)

> However, if they see tip as a means of survival in business, they
> should consolidate it into the final amount and save everybody lots
> of heartache (like they do in Europe).

Who do you mean 'they' who can consolidate the tip into the check? A waiter has no 
say in how a business is run! And if a common restaurant owner did force such a 
payment scheme, (which many poche restaurants do, even here in US) the 
business may suffer. 

> By definition, you cannot demand a gratuity, nor do I see the reason why
> anyone should even pay it. I don't pay gratuity to my garbageman who picks 
> up my trash every week, why should pay the waiter whom I may never see again?
> 
> Prabhakar

The garbageman's pay is included in the trash service charges that you pay.
(Or your aprtment complex pays.) The minimum wage, if that is what the garbage 
man gets, is controlled. But most of the restaurants hire college students and
other illegal immigrants at less than minimum pay. (Even though this is illegal, 
but the benefits are to both parties and also as restaurants involve mostly in 
cash transaction, this industry does have its own set of rules.


Chandresh Patel	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)  
Subject: Re: Einstein on religion
Originator: chaw@Pluto.Stanford.EDU
X-Disclaimer: Blame it on the cat.
Reply-To: Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)  
Fcc: log/outgoing
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:55:02 GMT

bkannan@ho12.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan) writes:
>Vijay Fafat:
>>From sci.physics:
>>An interesting quote by Einstein on the subject of religion :
>>"Religious thought is an attempt to find an out where there are no doors."
>>---A. Einstein (1938?)

>        and Einsteinian thought??
>bk 

Someone please quote what Einstein had to say about Quantum Mechanics...

_________________________________________________________________________
Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu                                         tat tvam asi
From: bgo00@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Bejoy G Oomman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ** MISSING ** URGENTLY LOOKING FOR DEODATTA (KUMAR) APTE
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:48:13 GMT

Hi,
 I am writing this on behalf of the family of a good friend of mine
Deodatta R. Apte. They are urgently trying to get a hold of him.

 He is doing Phd in University of Florida at Gainsville. He is 6 feet tall,
wears a beard and glasses. He was in IIT Bombay from 1981-87 (Hostel 2). His
uncle in the US has been trying to get a hold of him for the past 2 weeks. He
was last seen on November 13 at the University. He is not in his apartment and
his car is missing too. His mother is now in Florida searching for him. His
family, girl-friend, and other friends are very worried.

 If any of you have any more information about where he is now please call his
uncle Ashok Apte at 714-830-2229 (H) or 714-707-5956 (W). You can call any
time and you may call collect too. You can reach me by email at
bgo00@ruts.ccc.amdahl.com and I will forward the information to his family.
Thanks for your help,
                                                                 -Bejoy
From: lal@cs.arizona.edu (The Morning Sun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Clinton's victory-in the Indian context.
Keywords: Clinton's victory-in the Indian context
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:24:48 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov17.200135.383@cbfsb.cb.att.com> satwant@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (satwant.singh) writes:
>In article lal@cs.arizona.edu (The Morning Sun) writes:
>>
>>No one is innocent. You are guilty of being an ignorant selfish fool.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Get lost!  You are one of the biggest supporter of the TERRORISM.
>
>I don't think the rest of the posting was worth a reply.
>
>
>Satwant.




I am one of the biggest supporters of terrorism?
	You dickhead! Where did you get that idea? Perhaps I was wrong in
calling you a selfish fool on the net, so I apologize for that.
	I repeat: all terrorists and their supporters must be executed.
	I don't care wether they are Indian, Arab or American terrorists.



A. Lal
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Looking for a Soni in the States for talk!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:17:37 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <92324.162540ICASV@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICASV@ASUACAD.BITNET (Ashish Vaidya) writes:
>Like my friend Ashish, I decided to put up a post as well.  I'm a Soni, born
>and raised in Dubai.  I am fresh from Dubai and I want a nice Indian Soni girl
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Tee hee :):)



>to talk to. (SONI is a person that deals in Gold, for all those who don't know)                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Aawjo !!                My name is Vijay Dhakan, premier of Dubai
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	err... ahem... Hey! Laying it on too thick, eh? :) All the Sonicas and
	Monicas should beware. he does'nt own the oil wells...

	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (ABDUL PETER IYENGAR)
Subject: Re: Premarital Sex - Is It OK?
Keywords: sex, marriage
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:12:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.173347.16033@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram) writes:
>In article <9717@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> cmhst6+@pitt.edu (Chris M Hunsicker) writes:
>>
>>To All:
>>
>>I am engaged and am going to be married in about 9 months. My finacee &
>>I are really growing impatient and would REALLY REALLY like to jump each
>>others bones! Should we do this, is it ok to, before we get married?
>>Should we be worried about the consequences of our actions, mentally or
>>otherwise? Note that we can't get married any earlier because our
>>parents want us to get married at that paricular date. 
>>
>>You replies will decide for us!! Any hints as to sneaking around would
>>also be greatly apreciated!
>>
>>	-Atul Grover ( A man whose glands are about to bust... )
>
>
>[posted for Nitin Khanna; send replies to nitin@ecn.purdue.edu]
>
>Hey pal,
>
>Why are you asking the whole world permission to make love
>to your fiancee?  Any hints as to sneaking around?; what does
>this mean, do you wnat to sneak around with your finace
>or behind her back.
>
>I cant believe that a man who would ask half the indian
>population in the states permission to "jump his 
>fiance's bones" even has glands !!
>
>Nitin Khanna
>

  I dont think that reflects any impotency but he is only
  wrestling with his conscience and wants justification
  about what he wants to do. He only wants to be ethical
  like trying to have fun and justify it by societal values
  Nice to know there are a few conscientious people around
  in today's promiscous world.
  bye
  gopa
  API 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: khatri@seas.gwu.edu (Anil Khatri)
Subject: RISK!!
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:04:39 GMT

A friend of mine took this from soc.culture.iranian and I found it pretty 
interesting so I am posting it in our newsgroup.

To laugh is to risk appearing a fool.
To weep is to risk appearing sentimental.
To reach out for another is to risk involvement.
To expose feelings is to risk rejection.
To place your dreams before the crowd is to risk ridicule.
To love is to risk not being loved in return.
To go forward in the face of overwhelming odds is to risk failure.

But risks must be taken because the greatest hazard in life
is to risk nothing. The person who risks nothing, has nothing,
is nothing. He may avoid suffering and sorrow, but he cannot
learn, feel, change, grow or love. Chained by his certitudes,
he is a slave. He has forfeited his freedom. Only a person
who takes risks is free.
 
+------------------------------------------------------------------
|This message was posted to SCI via direct e-mail.  Yours truly is
|not responsible for its contents!             Shahrokh Mortazavi.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: Re: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:31:54 GMT

>In article <1eeipqINNko1@menudo.uh.edu> nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:

>	Tipping is never demanded. It is *expected* - as a courtesy for good
>service. Its a way of saying "I very much appreciate you taking care of my
>needs". 


	Oh ! I was under this crazy impression that waiters hung around
	in restaurants for hula dancing.


> 
>Chetan Nagappa


J Anand.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Subject: Re:    South Indian<>Dravidian
Originator: ssd@atlas.psrc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:58:14 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.171113.6039@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma) writes:
|> Xref: taco soc.culture.indian:2495 soc.culture.tamil:3685 soc.culture.indian.telugu:993
|> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
|> Path: taco!gatech!emory!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!think.com!ames!sun-barr!decwrl!pa.dec.com!e2big.mko.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!ryn.mro4.dec.com!pfeast.enet.dec.com!verma
|> From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
|> Subject: Re:    South Indian<>Dravidian
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov18.171113.6039@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
|> Sender: news@ryn.mro4.dec.com (USENET News System)
|> Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
|> Date: 18 NOV 92 12:05:40    
|> Lines: 15
|> 
|> 
|> In article <92322.150340EASWAR@PURCCVM.BITNET>, <EASWAR@PURCCVM.BITNET> writes...
|> >NOT ALL SOUTH INDIANS GO WITH DRAVIDIAN THEORY.
|> > 
|> >Let me explain.
|> 
|> 	Stuff deleted.
|> 
|> 	Excellent Nyshadham. Thanks for posting your views. I whole
|> 	heartedly agree with you. Dravidianism was a tool of the Brits
|> 	to divide India. Brits are gone so should Dravidianism.
|> 
|> 	How about every one believing the descendent of an Aryan? To 
|> 	homogenize you have a choice - either demote or promote. Why not 
|> 	promote.
|> 
	Can you pleeaase explain WHAT you mean by the last para? Thanx

	Srikant
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna)
Subject: Re: ????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:39:02 GMT

In article <1ebrogINNg5v@bigboote.WPI.EDU> sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki) writes:
>In the bliss of his ignorance (Jayaraman Anand) writes:
>
>>>sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki) writes:
>>>anywayS you don't fit to be here if you don't know who i am.
>>	U continue to astonish me with your quality of English.
>>J Anand.
>
>BTW i use american english and you astonish me with the depth of your
>ignorance. 
>
>suresh
>
>
>ps: i actually meant 'you don't deserve to be here.'

Don't worry, now I know who you are. You're the dude who responds to every 
thread and post (even if you don't know a damn thing about the topic) as if we
actually care about your thoughtless opinions. You're the dude whose posts
are filled with typos and grammatical errors(obviously reflecting your
education). Don't worry Mr. Doki, you must must admit that since I know
who you are, you surely must give me permission to read and post to
this newsrgroup. 

Thank heavens for KILL files.


the dude who has countless number of typos and grammatical
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From: sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Almighty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS (Another View)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:36:53 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

nandraj@unisql.UUCP (Nandraj Arni) writes:


>  This is very well true.  But one of the waiters at this place became friendly
>with us and told us not to leave any tip as all of it goes to the management.
>This may not be true everywhere. I still tip them 10-15%. :-)

>  I dont' know the reason for this. Could be due to many customers not giving
>enough tips, has  to increase thier pay and take all the tips?

>-- 

The way I have understood this thing to work is that the management takes
in all the tips and then divides the "LOOT" equally among all the waiters/
waitresses, cooks/chefs and the other employees.  I think this is a 
reasonable system since the people working behind the scene never 
seem to get their reward.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Excluding men
Reply-To: uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:33:22 GMT


My bait for the MCPs, became the hook with which I got got hooked...
*sigh*

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)



In article <susanc.722456500@keckiris> susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko) writes:
>uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>
>
>>does the indian-women mailing list mean that the sci football field is now
>>safe for the rampaging MCPs and their jokes...  I got a couple of MCP jokes,
>>but held back seeing that the ladies onthe net dont like it at all...
>
> 
>There are a number of interesting assumptions here, one being
>that all the men who read s.c.i revel in MCP jokes. No doubt
>some do, but judging from other posts and email, a significant
>proportion of the men who read this newsgroup don't appreciate
>the flood of puerile humour, sarcastic one-liners, or pointless
>followups to which s.c.i is subjected.
>
>Speaking for myself, I find 'MCP jokes' an adolescent and
>defensive form of humour better suited to the 8th grade, but 
>women are not a mass of uniform thinkers, and I wouldn't presume 
>to speak for anyone else.
>
>>but held back seeing that the ladies onthe net dont like it at all...
>
>It's up to each poster to decide whether to follow the crowd
>(which right now is going through one of s.c.i's periodic
>low points) or whether to attempt a more reasonable post.
>A poster is restrained not by the supposed disapproval of 
>anyone else, but by his or her own sense of what's appropriate. 
>Thus, if you've heard an MCP joke that you think is the high
>point of humor, it's entirely your decision whether to post it
>on this newsgroup or the more obvious rec.humor.
>
>Susan.
>--
>---
>Mail from this account is forwarded to susanc@helix.nih.gov
>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian