HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Wanted: redirect scrn output to file.
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:29:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Aug26.132945.10682
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University

> >>I'm looking for a dos program to redirect screen output
> >>from a standard .bat file to an output file.  Does anybody
> >>know of one that might help me out?
> >
> >
> >When you run this BAT file, use the following syntax:
> >
> >	runme.BAT > output.txt
> >
> >This will create/overwrite the file "output.txt" -- 
> 
> Not true.  At least on my system using dos 5, the above merely produces
> a zero-length file called output.txt.  You could, however, include the
> redirection commands within the .bat file, e.g.
>    dir c: > OUTPUT.TXT
>    dir d: >> OUTPUT.TXT
> 
> Another alternative would be to get a utility like PC Mag's prn2file,
> which redirects printer output to a file.  Execute prn2file, then
> hit ctrl-prtscrn (or shift-prtscrn?) and then execute your bat file.
> Simpler solutions are probably also around.

But what if you want to redirect error messages?  ">" doesn't catch std-error 
messages, and if you have more than one screenfull of messages, print-screen
doesn't work.

Mark
mrr1@ra.msstate.,edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: horan@cse.unl.edu (Mark Horan)
Subject: Qmodem 4.5 will not release my up-arrow key even when scroll is off!
Keywords: scroll Qmodem
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: 'usa'
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:19:48 GMT

	My problem is in Qmodem 4.5 that whenever I need to use the up-arrow
key, like right now in 'vi' the scroll back feature pops up.  I have toggled
ALT-U to shut the scroll back off but then when I hit up-arrow Qmodem justy
says 'no scroll back data' instead of passing the up-arrow key stroke.  I even
went in and changed the scroll back memory to 0 lines but to no avail.  Please
help, I love Qmodem so far but if I can't use the up-arrow I might have to 
switch.
			Thanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: drv@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dennis.r.vogel)
Subject: TrueType for DOS
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:27:06 GMT

I recently saw a press release-type article on another newsgroup
announcing TrueType for DOS from MicroLogic Software.

Is it shipping?  Do any retailers carry it, eg. Egghead?
Does anyone have any experience with it?  I'd use it mostly
with WordPerfect 5.1 but am curious if it would work with
other DOS applications. (The article implies it would work
only with WP, MS Word and MS Works.)

Thanks.

Dennis R. Vogel
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Middletown, NJ
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach)
Subject: Re: PKUNZIP options
Summary: Illiteracy: A national disgrace
Originator: labach@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:33:28 GMT
Organization: The Bobby Jurasin Fan Club

In article <barrett.715555677@cc.gatech.edu> barrett@terminus.gatech.edu
(James Barrett) writes: 

>I have a ZIP file of my entire hard drive, zipped with a -rP option
>in PKZIP.  Is there *any* way to unzip *just* the root directory
>files?  If I don't use -d, I just get all the files dumped into
>the root directory (it stops after 512, of course).  If I use -d,
>I get the entire drive recreated.  
>
>*HELP*!!!!
>Thanks,
>
>----------------OS/2 v2.0 -- Why settle for anything less?--------------------
>James C. Barrett (barrett@cc.gatech.edu)| "If your so damned smart, why are
>Georgia Tech College of Computing       |   you doing what your doing, and I'm
>					   |   president of the U.S.?" - G.Bush

If G. Bush is so smart, why doesn't he know that it's "you're" and not
"your"?  :-)  (Yes, I know that this newsgroup is for the discussion of
apps by people who don't, won't, or can't read the manuals and not for
smart-ass comments...)
From: rusu@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (LMRusu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Help with QEMM386, EMM386, Procomm Plus
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:23:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hello everyone,
When I am connected to my school's Sun using Procomm Plus for DOS, I am
having the following problem: when I type in a key or more while the screen
scrolls (for ex., immediately following a dir command) the screen just
freezes. I can get it back to normal only by going in and out into one of
the Procomm windows (for ex., ALT P and then ESC).
The strange thing is that this happens only when I am using QEMM386 or EMM386.
When my config.sys file doesn't upload any of the two everything works fine.
Also everything is fine when I am using Procomm Plus in a DOS window under
Windows 3.1 even if QEMM386 or EMM386 is uploaded. 
I spent many hours playing with my TSR programs and everyting works fine as
long I don't have QEMM386 or EMM386 uploaded. 
BTW, I got the BIOS cursor patch for Procomm Plus but the problem didn't go 
away.
I am getting desperate about this because I really need to use QEMM386 or
EMM386 so I welcome any suggestions.

Please respond by mail and I will post a summary.
Thanks in advance!

rusu@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

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From: ccw@slee07.srl.ford.com (C. C. Warren)
Subject: Info on TurboCad
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:34:50 GMT


I've just gotten a mailing on Turbo Cad for $99 which includes a bunch
of symbol libs and file conversion utilities. I looked in Computer Shopper
and have seen if offered for the same price.

Is Turbo Cad a good drawing package? I've used Autosketch v2.0 and like some
of the features it has. How does Turbo Cad compare?

Thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: DR DOS vs 4dos+Msdos+Stacker
From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:57:43 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug23.182426.15031@husc3.harvard.edu>, wong1@husc4.harvard.edu (Christopher Wong) writes:
> I have tried the 4dos/msdos5/stacker combo on other machines. Now it's time
> to upgrade my 286/12 clone. Unfortunately, the combo is pricy ($89 4dos --
> do they have academic discounts? -- along with $50 msdos and ~$100 for stacker).
> DR DOS seems to have their major points: improved command line, better memory
> handling and compression at a much better price. What do I give up going the
> DR DOS 6 route? I especially like 4dos's improvements.
>
You loose a few features by not having 4DOS, but as you say the important ones
are still there.  DRDOS (with SuperStore) is basically as good as msdos5 plus
stacker (better in some ways, e.g. FileLink, fancy cache, security features).
SuperStore and Stacker are pretty much comparable, except the bundled price of
DRDOS+SuperStore+SuperPCK is darned hard to beat.

As others have commented, 3rd party memory managers can do better than either
DRDOS or MSDOS, except we're talking about a 286 here, so I doubt they're worth
it (only a few 286 chip sets support UMB's). Even then, I'd go for DRDOS in
place of MSDOS.

You can still add 4DOS later if there are features you need (DRDOS+4DOS seems a
perfect combination, except 4DOS doesn't know about DRDOS's file passwords, but
that isn't a real problem).

Mark Aitchison, University of Canterbury.
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: DR DOS vs 4dos+Msdos+Stacker
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:59:36 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1992Sep1.145744.597@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>In article <1992Aug23.182426.15031@husc3.harvard.edu>, wong1@husc4.harvard.edu (Christopher Wong) writes:
>You can still add 4DOS later if there are features you need (DRDOS+4DOS seems a
>perfect combination, except 4DOS doesn't know about DRDOS's file passwords, but
>that isn't a real problem).

Are you sure that 4DOS doesn't support DR DOS passwords?  I remember reading
(in the 4dos 4.0 docs, I think) that the DR DOS delimiting character for
passwords conflicts with the command separation character in 4dos, so for PW's
you need to use two semicolons.  Did this change?  Didn't I get the memo?

Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: jvs@lester.appstate.edu (John V. Scalco)
Subject: Paradox 4.0 - Ed. Price?
Organization: Appalachian State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:10:22 GMT

	Greetings folks,
		I was wondering if anyone out there had heard about
	the pricing Borland will be doing on Paradox 4.0 for the 
	educational/scholar program.  As, I am a student at a
	university and have seen Qpro 4.0 at a student price.
		pls. forward any info you have/get to me personally.

		thanks for the time!

		have a good day!

			john v. scalco
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Why do people want PD software?
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:25:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Aug26.132510.10415
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University

I work at a State University that cannot afford $100 - $300 per machine to have
ftp and telnet.  NCSA is free, and does the job.

There is not an Egghead or Software, Etc within 30 miles (possibly 60 miles)
I can choose from Wal-Mart, Radio Shack or the local Computer Hardware place,
none of which have a selection.

Somebody said "most ShareWare is Crap".  I agree, but must add, Most Commercial
packages are crap.  At least Shareware lets me try before I buy.

Mark
mrr1@ra.msstate.edu
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: SED for MSDOS?
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:31:32 GMT
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

In article <qplnj#-.messina@netcom.com> messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:

>
>My questions:  
>
>1. Since these sites are so well known (at least to those using
>Internet), does anyone try to check at least these three before
>posting a question? 

Obviously, you should.  And experienced users do.

>2. If a poster hasn't heard of any of the above sites (how likely is
>that for an Internet user?), how much are we helping by saying "check
>garbo.uwasa <simtel> <wuarchive>"?
>
Obviously, it is a kind of Catch-22.  My bet is that the typical poster
of "Is there SED for MS/DOS?" is probably not a newsie at all.  It's
probably somebody who has never used the net or anything like it before
(as hard as it is to believe, there really are people doing things with
computers who don't have idea that the net exists or what it does).

So that, in fact, this kind of posting is entirely a one-shot deal for
this type of poster.  So, really, it doesn't do any good to just say,
"Look on Simtel", 'cause they will probably never use the net again.

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From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Why do people want PD software?
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:57:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Aug29.185723.18654
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

In article <1992Aug26.132510.10415@ra.msstate.edu> mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu writes:

>Somebody said "most ShareWare is Crap".  I agree, but must add, Most Commercial
>packages are crap.  At least Shareware lets me try before I buy.

Sturgeon's law has not been repealed.

The only point in *buying* any software is so that you will have someone
to scream at when things go wrong.  My experience has been that said
screaming rarely does any tangible good, but it sure feels good.

I am perfectly serious (despite what my sig says...).  People pay good
money for the right to feel righteous indignation.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: pat@jts.com (Patrick Perroud )
Subject: Relational Database Inquiry
Organization: JTS Computer Systems Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:42:12 GMT

I am interested in a good relational DB for DOS with a SQL
interface, C lib interface, and I don't know if this is relavent but I would
like to write the entry screens etc. using Windows, I have the DEV kit for 
Windows 3.1. If you may have had experience with windowing software other
than Windows I would also be very interested.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, or if you know of anyone I could
talk to who might know of such a beast!!
If you know of a relational DB how do I get a hold of it?

Thanks, I will post a Summary if there is sufficient interest.



Pat P.

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From: ddavies@ddbeezer.Dundee.NCR.COM (Derek Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Redirecting the output of batch files
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:05:15 GMT
Reply-To: ddavies@ddbeezer.Dundee.NCR.COM (Derek Davies)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR E&M Dundee

>>I'm looking for a dos program to redirect screen output
>>from a standard .bat file to an output file.  Does anybody
>>know of one that might help me out?
>
>

Try the following : 

command /c batchfil.bat > output.fil

This will redirect the stdout messages generated whilst in
batchfil.bat to the file output.fil.

This approach does not required any PD utilities/DR dos/4 Dos etc.

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:: Advanced Application Systems,NCR,Kingsway West,Dundee,Scotland.DD2 3XX  ::
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: (wp) or .txt string count, user defined word count?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:45:56 GMT

Does anyone know of a macro, or dos util that will let me count the
number of times a specific, user defined, string or word appears in
a WP document?  I thought I remembered seeing a Timo Salmi utility
that did this.
I've spent days with a thumb clicker going f2 esc, f2 esc, f2 esc, I'm
up to several thousand clicks and I'm losing my mind.  There has to
be a better way.
Thanks, -P.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: roger@glenn.uwaterloo.ca (Roger De Abreu)
Subject: Hardware needed for ACCPAC
Organization: Earth Observations Lab/ISTS, University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:44:34 GMT

I am helping a little old lady purchase a home pc where she can do some
light bookkeeping work on the side.  She uses ACCPAC at work.  Being
unfamiliar with the accounting package I was hoping any ACCPAC users out
there can tell me the minimum hardware setup for this.  Again her work
is light.

I thought she would be happy with an outdated but cheap 286.  Am I am way
off here?.  Also, I understand it can make use of expanded memory.  How
does it run with the standard 1 
meg of Ram ?  Should I get 2 Mb and a memory manager.  I assume I'll
need this to use the expanded memory.

Thanx in advance...please post directly to me if possible....

BTW, I'm not getting paid for the consulting...its just a favor.


D
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Roger
From: hooven@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Chris Hooven)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:30:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Looking for note taking software
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps

Info Select 2.0 (about $90 street) is a nice note taker: free-form entry,
search for anything, time and date stamper, etc.  Highly recommended.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Subject: Re: PKUNZIP options
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:52:09 GMT

In article <tlm1.715560572@Ra.MsState.Edu> tlm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Terry Matula) writes:
>barrett@terminus.gatech.edu (James Barrett) writes:
>
>>I have a ZIP file of my entire hard drive, zipped with a -rP option
>>in PKZIP.  Is there *any* way to unzip *just* the root directory
>>files?  If I don't use -d, I just get all the files dumped into
>>the root directory (it stops after 512, of course).  If I use -d,
>>I get the entire drive recreated.  
>
>Ummm, if this is just a one-time requirement, why don't you just hit
>the ole Control-C when all the files you want are unzipped?

The right way, of course, is to do a PKZIP -v to a file, then edit that
to create a response file.  Then do PKUNZIP @foo

To the best of my knowledge, there is no built-in way to do it.

On the subject, you know what really burns my shorts about PKZIP?
The fact that, suppose you know there is a file in a called, e.g., GCC.EXE,
and you want to get info on it.  In order to list it, you have to know
which directory in the ZIP it is in.

That is, if the ZIP has a directory structure, then you can't do:

	pkzip -v foo */GCC.EXE

nada.  I have often resorted to:

	pkzip -v foo | grep GCC.EXE


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: Looking for simple backup software (to floppies).
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:10:19 GMT

avinash@sam.contex.com (Avinash Chopde) writes:

...

>I plan on doing complete backups every three--six months, and
>incremental backups every day for one drive, and incremental backups
>every week/month for the other drives.
>I hope it is possible to do multiple incremental backups from the
>previous complete backup---as different from incrementally backing up the
>drive from the previous *incremental* backup.

What you are describing is called, by Central Point Backup, a
*differential* backup.  This backs up modified files, then does _not_
reset the archive bit, allowing the file to be backed up on subsequent
differential backups until you again run a Full backup (which resets the
archive bits).
So yes, CP Backup has the features you desire.

-JTT
From: James_Hung@mindlink.bc.ca (James Hung)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Sidekick 2.0 and Norton cache
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:50:04 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Hi ,

Does anyone know whether there is a problem between Norton Cache (v.6.01) and
Borland's Sidekick 2.0?  I am able to load Sidekick and activate it with
Ctrl-Alt once; but once I exit Sidekick my machine locks up when I try to
activate it again!  Any pointers would be appreciated.  BTW, I also tried the
shift-shift hot key combination and the machine would still lock up.  My
suspicion is the Norton Cache.

James Hung

Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.apps:4630 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:12215
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: VTxxx emulators
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:22:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: PA.1992Sep3.192211.27415
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA


I just saw at least three requests for VTxxx emulators - one in each
of comp.os.msdos.apps, comp.os.msdos.misc and comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc.

Is it time for a weekly posting or something?

- Jim

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From: hannahp@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: VT Emulators wanted
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:28:45 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

I hope this is the appropriate place to send this.

I am after an effective vtxxx style emulator that can handle
the graphics (240, 340 I think).

Anyone got any ideas/suggestions?


Thanks
Paul
Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.apps:4637 comp.os.msdos.misc:5051 comp.os.msdos.programmer:9058
From: kak1@cypress31.cray.com (Kevin Kramer)
Subject: Re: Compressing GIF/JPEG/BMP files
Originator: kak1@cypress31
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:08:55 CDT


In article <1992Aug26.144219.7732@oracorp.com>, ras@oracorp.com (Rick Smith) writes:
> I've been trying to find a archive program that will compress
> the formats mentioned above.  PKZIP does not do this.  I'd
> like to archive off some of stuff I've accumulated over the years
> and not take 25 floppies to do it.  Any suggestions?
> 
> the rickster

Convert everything to JPEG files.  When I converted my GIF files to JPEG, I 
would get aroung 60-70% reduction in the file size. (quite significant)
I think that JPEG was invented to do just as you ask, so you won't find any 
better compression.  (at least that I know of)

Kevin