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From: elling@eng.auburn.edu (Richard Elling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: bootlegging hurts Unix
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:28:26 GMT
Reply-To: elling@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

In article 2346@ariadne.csi.forth.GR, jimmy@denwa.info.com (Jim Gottlieb) writes:
>	May WordPerfect for X steal all their business.  WordPerfect has always
>	been wonderful to deal with.

Speaking of bootlegging...  WordPerfect (that's WordDefect in my office)
has a trivial password scheme.  It is so simple to bootleg, that my
grandmother could do it.  But before you get happy, read on...

[striking match]
WordDefect is unmanagable for large sites.  They don't understand UNIX.
They treat their UNIX version like they treat their MS-DOS version.  For
instance, they have their own print spooler which is a pain in the butt
to work around.  Why didn't they just let the UNIX print spooler do it?
This ain't DOS.  You don't need to replace my OS for me.  If you muck with
my 60 printers, I get upset.  The installation is not intended to be made
on a read only device.  You have to put junk in /usr, which is typically
a read only file system.  These and many more UNIX unfriendly "features"
really make my blood pressure zoom.

So we bought it.  Spent 3 days trying to install it.  Decided it is not
managable for our site.  And deleted it.  Who cares if its bootleggable,
if I install it at my site, I'm responsible for it's upkeep.  And if it
is a (&$#^@, I have to spend time helping poor, naive users use it.
NO THANKS.
[douse flame]

Moral: there is more than one way to prevent bootlegging.

Humorous rumor: WordDefect for the Sun is so slow that it is really a
MS-DOS emulator running WordDefect for DOS :-)

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From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Changing indentation in mailtool reply??
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:51:44 GMT
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY

In article <1992Apr13.195938.27584@tandem.com> kenr@orleans.storage.tandem.com (Ken Rose) writes:

>   When I reply <to sender,include> to a mail message using Openwindows
>   (2.0) mailtool, it seems to indent about 15 spaces.  I would like
>   less indentation.  Is there a way to change the amount the mailtool
>   indents an included message for the reply? 

in your .mailrc, add
set indentprefix="> "


> And also it includes all
>   the header junk; is there a way to tell it not to include that?

ignore apparently-to date errors-to id in-reply-to \
       message-id precedence received references remailed-date \
       remailed-from return-path sent-by status via
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: davidd@lynx.cs.washington.edu (David Doll)
Subject: guide3.0 not saving correctly?
Organization: Univ. of Washington
Distribution: comp
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:16:11


System: Sparc2, SunOS 4.1.1, OW3.0, guide3.0, xview toolkit

Problem: I have a project, foo, within guide which has 4 files in it.
After I make my changes to whatever, I do a save through the project
and then the main file button - saving all/everything. When I try to
quit out of guide, I get a notice saying that:

The text has been edited.
You may discard edits now and quit, or cancel,etc...

I don't get, why am I getting this? How could something not been saved
when I've saved everything before exiting? Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks much.

David


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From: hendrick@ctron.com (Jim Hendrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Source Control Software Query
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:25:14 GMT
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.

Hi
	Does anyone know of a source control system that does NOT
require that all the master file systems be exported read/write? It
would seem that this could be done using some sort of client-server model
so that submitting changes would request the server make these entried in
its database (rather than the client machine running an executable that does
a setuid to "source-control" and then modifies the source file system
directly). This would seem to provide (at least) two benefits, first
of all, network nfs traffic should be reduced, second it would seem to
be much more secure in that the actual master source database would not
be accessable to end users. If there is such a beast, please let me know
via email (as I will be posting this to several groups that I read only
occasionally).

Thanks!!

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From: demuth@hugo.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Demuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Adress Traces
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:42:29 GMT
Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: hugo

Hello !

Is there anybody who has experiences with trace driven simulation
on a sparcstation ?
For my studies i need adress-sequences of any processes (compiler-
runs, etc).
I want to test alternative memory systems for a sparc processor and so
i want to get adress traces of programs.

Who can help me ?

Thanks in advance !


Thomas Demuth
University of Dortmund
Germany
From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: SimCity for SUN SparcStation
Keywords: SimCity, X Window, Games
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:55:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: alphalph.1992Apr14.035533.7233
Organization: none

In article <1992Apr8.053716.22622@berlioz.nsc.com> my@berlioz.nsc.com (Mike Yip) writes:
>	I went to SunWorld Expo today and saw a version of SimCity (the
>PC/MAC simulation game) running on the SparcStation.  This X Window version

Are you sure it's X?  I know of a version that has been under development,
but it required NeWS.
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I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
From: rouilj@dl5000.bc.edu (John P. Rouillard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Wanted: Remote Terminal Emulator
Date: 5 Apr 92 18:54:57 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College


Try checking out the pty tools (Dan Bernstein is the author I think).
There are a couple of programs that will record and playback
keystrokes including time delay between keystrokes etc.

-- John
From: k2@tonbi.eri.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Kazuki Koketsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Changing mailtool parameters
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:12:23 GMT
Organization: Earthquake Research Institute, University of Tokyo, Japan

In article <BARNETT.92Apr15125144@grymoire.crd.ge.com> barnett@crdgw1.ge.com writes:
>in your .mailrc, add
>set indentprefix="> "
>ignore apparently-to date errors-to id in-reply-to \
>       message-id precedence received references remailed-date \
>       remailed-from return-path sent-by status via
>--
>Bruce Barnett <barnett@crd.ge.com> uunet!crdgw1!barnett

This is very helpful for me, too.
I have another question:
How can I give a default file name like `~/mbox' to the mailtool
by using .mailrc?
Thank you in advance.
---
Kazuki Koketsu
ERI, U Tokyo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: xenidis@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Jimi X)
Subject: Re: .Xresources help sought
Keywords: OpenWindows, GNU Emacs
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:07:38 GMT

In article <216@imatron.COM> manabu@imatron.COM (Manabu Tokunaga [Orca]) writes:
>Hello again,
>
>Now the xterm VT-100 function keys mistry (on my previous post) was
>solved (and thanks many for assistance - summary upon request). I
>would like to ask another novice question.
>
>I got the GNU emacs to work under the OpenWindows environment. There
>is one thing I cannot figure out. In the man page of emacs(1), it says
>that I can set up the default font and color using .Xresources . It
>also says that I should read xrdb(1).  Just making .Xresources in ~
>however does not work and I have no idea how to get this to work. For
>example, I want Emacs to start up with screen.r.14 font, and I put in
>.Xresources:
>
>	emacs.font: screen.r.14
>
>What did I do wrong? 

The emacs man pages are really screwy in what do use for emacs resource
strings

Emacs:	
emacs*Background:	grey50
emacs*Font:		7x13bold
emacs*Foreground:	aquamarine1

It turns out that capatilizing the letter afetr the * is how emacs 
indexes the key, but I do not know if it will accept an openwindow font.

to check if it does support openwindow fonts use the -fn <font> command
line options.

and don't forget you must use a fixed width font (or else..)

-jimi x
(xenidis@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Who sells BudTool backup software ?
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 23:35:04 GMT

In article <1760@fnnews.fnal.gov> shah@fnalb.fnal.gov writes:
>Can anyone tell me, who sells BudTool, backup software ?

Delta Microsystems, Inc.
111 Lindbergh Ave
Livermore, CA 94550
(415) 449 6881
FAX (415) 449 6885

>How much does it cost ?

I don't know.

Hmmm... I see a number here for "Jill" at 510-449-3113.
Maybe the above 415 area-code numbers have changed to (510).

See also the post I'm about to make about network backup solutions...
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From: taylor@sphinx.sunworld.com (Dave Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: commercial games
Keywords: SimCity, X Window, Games
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:25:12 GMT
Organization: SunWorld Magazine, San Francisco, CA: +1 (415) 267-1728

Ajay Shah writes:

> Tiger Media has two games...

And they are "The Case of the Cautious Condor" and "Murder 
Makes Strange Deadfellows".  Both were designed primarily 
on the SPARC system, though much of the graphics work was
done on high end PC systems (better graphics software).
I've played Condor and thought it was pretty cool, though
didn't work particularly well as a game.  

The story line is that you're a Nick Danger / Sam Spade sort
of Private Eye and you're invited to the first cross-US trip
on the Condor, a privately owned dirigible.  The setting for
the game is the 40's, and you've until the ship lands to 
figure out which of the motley gang of fellow passengers 
killed the owner of the ship (I think that's who is killed).

The game features a well-designed graphical interface (no
typing!), lots of very attractive 40's comic book style
illustrations, in color, and a witty, high quality, audio
track that includes theme music, and lots of discussion
between the passengers and the protagonist.

The latter game is in a very similar vein, from what I have
heard from Tiger, and both were done primarily for the CDTV
and video game systems -- since much of the work originated
on the SPARC, they decided to make them available too.  I
also believe that CATS MEOW, their multimedia authoring
tool, was originally built in-house to help them synchronize
the different media (audio, video) in their games.

If you want to read more about this, Dave Lundberg of Tiger
Media wrote a terrific article about the making of Condor
in the December '91 issue of SunWorld.

Finally, some contact information:

   Tiger Media Inc.
   5801 East Slauson Avenue, Suite 200
   Los Angeles, CA 90040
   Voice: (213) 721-8282
   FAX:   (213) 721-8336

I would be interested in hearing what other people have thought
of either Condor or Deadfellows...

						-- Dave Taylor
Reviews Editor
SunWorld Magazine
San Francisco, CA 				taylor@sunworld.com
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Blue Cross/Blue Shield billing software
Keywords: BCBS
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:51:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cal-Nevada Methodist Homes

I tried to e-mail the person who originally posted the article looking for
BCBS medical office billing software, but it came back unknown host.  Since
there seemed to be so much interest, I thought I'd just go ahead and post to 
the net.  
	THE PLACE to contact concerning medical billing software is in
Raleigh North Carolina, and it's called Medic Computer Systems.  They are 
probably the largest supplier of medical office billing software in the
country, having literally 1000's of clients.  Their software is extremely user-
friendly, with built-in windowing functions that was years ahead of its time.
The software includes a built-in report-writer with point&pick abilities, and itgives you the ability to extract literally 1000's of different and varying 
reports that the doctor could desire.  The software also piggy-backs the 
insurance billing automatically, which makes insurance billing a cinch.

In case you are wondering, I don't work for Medic, although I used to.  I can 
truthfully say that they have damn good software, one of the best support staffsin the country, and quickest response time, and they also have their own field
service engineers to take care of hardware related problems that may crop up in
the field.  They are an employee-owned company, having just recently purchased
the company outright from the previous owner for approximately 87 million $s.
They just announced that their first-ever public stock offering will commence
within the next several days, at approximately $12 a share.  If you don't buy
the software, I'd definitely recommend the stock.   
I hope this answers anyone's questions to their satisfaction.
From: meystel@learning.siemens.com (Michael Meystel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Word Processor search
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:36:29 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research

Greetings,

Does anyone know of a public domain / shareware / really cheap
WYSIWYG word process for the Sun? I need something that will
do what Microsoft Word can do (or MacWrite, or whatever).
Something like IslandWrite or FrameMaker, but not expensive.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

meystel@learning.siemens.com

Michael A. Meystel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: pln@egret1.stanford.edu (Patrick L. Nolan)
Subject: Re: .Xresources help sought
Keywords: OpenWindows, GNU Emacs
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:30:26 GMT

I have a related question:  Does emacs use an app-defaults file?
I've just been learning how to use files in
$OPENWINHOME/lib/X11/app-defaults/ to set up global default values,
but emacs doesn't seem to read its file, no matter what I capitalize
in its name or contents.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: kenr@orleans.storage.tandem.com (Ken Rose)
Subject: Changing indentation in mailtool reply?? 
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc, Cupertino CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:59:38 GMT

When I reply <to sender,include> to a mail message using Openwindows
(2.0) mailtool, it seems to indent about 15 spaces.  I would like
less indentation.  Is there a way to change the amount the mailtool
indents an included message for the reply?  And also it includes all
the header junk; is there a way to tell it not to include that?

I`ve tried RTFM, and haven`t had any sucess in finding out how I
can modify this behavior.

Your suggestions appreciated,
  Ken

____________________________________________________________________
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The Usual Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed above are mine alone, not
those of my employer (who is kind enough to allow me Usenet access).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: dirk@spacsun.rice.edu (Dirk Valk)
Subject: Re: reading DOS diskettes (softpc)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:31:12 GMT

In article <cc1w026d0faD01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> nyp00@cd.amdahl.com (Nick Pang) writes:
>SoftPC AT for the Sparc has been available for quite a while now. We
>have it running on 1+ and Macs too. On a 1+, it's about 7 times faster
>than a real PC/AT. VGA graphics.
>

Does anyone know if there is a version of SoftPC, or any other DOS emulator,
which will run on a Sun3/280 under Xwindows?  I've been playing telephone
tag with Sun all week on this, so presumably I'll get their word soon, but
I'd be interested to know if there are any commercial packages available
from other vendors.
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From: shah@fnsony.fnal.gov (Hemant Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Who sells BudTool backup software ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:02:23 GMT
Reply-To: shah@fnalb.fnal.gov
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.apps
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia, IL

Can anyone tell me, who sells BudTool, backup software ?
How much does it cost ?

Thanx :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: rjkoop@sebastian.carleton.ca (rjkoop)
Subject: CorelDraw for Unix Tektronics driver.
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:15:41 GMT

We just got CorelDraw! for Unix on our Sparc 2s.  We have a Tektronics
colour printer.  CorelDraw! provides support for only Postscript printers
and HP PCL printers.  How can I get the Tektronics to work with CoreDraw?
Do I have to write a filter to translate Postscript into the Tektronics
printer language?  If so how?
From: manabu@imatron.COM (Manabu Tokunaga [Orca])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: RE: .Xresources help sought (Intermediate Report)
Keywords: OpenWindows, GNU Emacs
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:12:31 GMT
Organization: Imatron Inc., S. San Francisco

In the previous post, I have requested for the help on X based GNU Emacs
and how to use .Xdefaults in Sun OpenWindows.

I got several help messages from around the world regarding this and
the problem turned out to be just a case of capitalization on the keyword.

	Correct:	Emacs.font: screen.r.14
	Incorrect:	emacs.font: screen.r.14

One answer said to use Emacs*font, but on my system, both . and * worked
equally. So I was RTM xrdb(1) correctly. I was worried for a moment. The
man page description in emacs.1 was incorrect, it seems.

Above stff can be entered in either .Xdefaults or .Xresources file.
.Xdefaults are read when starting up openwin. Contents in .Xresources,
at least in my environment, does not get read in unless I do,

	xrdb .Xresources

Also, after modifying .Xdefaults, typing xrdb .Xdefaults works just as well.

I thank many people who responded to my request for help. Once again,
the problem was solved. At the moment, I am trying to figure out other
appropriate keywords to use to modify background colors etc. 

Thanks again!




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: setzer@math.ncsu.edu (William Setzer)
Subject: Enabling accounting in NeWSprint 1.0
Organization: The Chebychev Church of Probability
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:34:24 GMT

I have a couple of SPARCprinters running NeWSprint 1.0.  I've been
trying to get the accounting stuff to work, but haven't even gotten
close.  Has anyone else gotten NeWSprint to "account"?  I'm beginning
believe that it never had, never will.  (Everything seems to revolve
around the undocumented program `psof_rd' and the undocumented file
`job.data'.  I have `af=/var/spool/sparc/acct' in printcap, and the
file exists, owned by daemon, but it never grows.)

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

William
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: ericp@beach.csulb.edu (Eric Pederson  CSE)
Subject: Re: reading DOS diskettes (softpc)
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:34:27 GMT

In article <ku99mtINN224@needmore.cs.utexas.edu> scheng@cs.utexas.edu (Sheila Cheng) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for software to read/write DOS formatted diskettes
>from/to Sparc2.  Someone told me something about softpc.
>How do I get a copy of it ?  
You can simply
	mount_pcfs /dev/fd0 /mnt pcfs rw
to read/write DOS floppies on your Sparcstation.  I assume this is
provided with SUNOS 4.1 and above.

mtools (as mentioned) also works and includes DOS formatting
capabilities and such.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: eleight@dvorak.amd.com (Elizabeth Leight)
Subject: editors
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:23:04 GMT

I don't want to start any religious wars, but I'm looking
for recommendations for editors.  Perhaps something like
eve on VMS systems;  easy to use for a novice, non-technical,
non-programming user.  Supported, purchased products or
freeware, doesn't matter.

If you'll reply to me directly, I'll summarize the responses.

Thanks in advance,
Elizabeth Leight

elizabeth.leight@amd.com