HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:43:15 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <JMD.92Sep11173357@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>Remember -- there are other people (men and women) out there looking
>for relationships also.   This are just some suggestions of good ways
>to meet them.  

>And people: STOP TELLING EVERYONE THAT THEY ARE WRONG!  The fact that
>you haven't made it work for you in the past DOES NOT INDICATE THAT IT
>WILL NOT WORK!

This sounds to me a lot like saying, "The fact that you've done poorly at
math before does not indicate that you'll do poorly in the future."  Sure,
it doesn't mean conclusively that it won't, but, given a reasonable amount
of experience with math (whatever "reasonable" is), it DOES indicate IMO
that it is VERY, VERY UNLIKELY that you will do well at it in the future.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"I tried to go back, as if I could.  All spec house and plywood,
 Tore up and tore up good, down on Copperline.
 It doesn't come as a surprise to me; it doesn't touch my memory.
 Man I'm lifting up and rising free down on Copperline."
						- James Taylor
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Why do the lurkers / so furiously lurk together?
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:02:57 GMT
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <414@asylum.UUCP> pbreton@asylum.UUCP (Peter Breton) writes:
>
>  If the figure of 100,000 readers of soc.singles per month is accurate,
>and less than 100 people post in any given month (can somebody check me 
>on this?), then it follows that 99.9% of soc.singlers are lurkers. So the 
>question should not be "why do the lurkers lurk?" but "why do the posters
>(gee, I guess that includes *me*) post?"

Egos.  Frightening, frightening egos.  And a little exhibitionism on the
side.

Dawn
"Oh, Time!  Of all the dwellers here below 
You only elevate buffoons or fools,
Or him whose anus as an inkstand serves."
The Perfumed Garden of the Shaykh Nefzawl, translated by Sir Richard F. Burton
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: uh oh...
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:29:17 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep12.195903.11141@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu (Captain Action Figure (tm)) writes:
>hello all...
>
>since you folks are the closest i have to family and friends, i'm
>letting you know that i am going on my first date since december.
>i suppose it's a bit late in the game to ask for last-minute advice?
>
>a friend set us up, and we've spent the last week making very shy and
>tentative phone calls to each other.  finally, she found the nerve to
>come out and say 'look, i'm not doing anything, you're not doing anything,
>let's get togetther and do something.'  so she'll be here about a half-hour
>any minute now, and i'm relaxing the only way i know how - readnewsing.
>
>oh, p.s.: she has no sisters, and she thinks i'm a nut for asking. :)
>
>--hymie

Thanks Hymie. I owe ya one. Pick your hair color.
If it didn't work out would you ask her brother if he might have any ughh...
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: E.W. - Weddings....
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  8 SEP 92 16:32:39 EST


re: (Emma Williams) 

>............................................I made lots 
>of new friends, including more single unattached males than I've
>ever seen before in one place!  (Very unusual for Ireland where the
>ratio of females to males is 3:1 )
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Sheeesh. Now why don't all these girls come over here to Boston.....
	all their men do......and we're getting sick and tired of it!!! ;-)
	They drink all the beer and wear out the dart boards but they won't
	bring the women over......the nerve of these people!  :-{

	Hey, how much are the air fares lately......still affordable?
	I knew saving up vacation time would be worth it eventually.
	Hello.....Aer Lingus......
From: bruce@supr.scm.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Appeal to Net.Wisdom
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:24:27 GMT
	<1992Sep13.204505.5300@csi.uottawa.ca>
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

>>>>> On 13 Sep 92 20:45:05 GMT, misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) said:

> In article <TyXZqB2w165w@wildrose.infoserv.com>, rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:

>> It's certainly the way I'd prefer to be treated, a simple no is much
>> more effective than any amount of waffling.

>    I second that.

I agree too.  Is there anybody that _doesn't_ agree?  Is there anyone
who'd prefer to be given a couple of excuses and who is happier to
"take the hint"?

(That's not to say that any old "no" will do; there are different ways
of saying no unambiguously, and some are nicer than others.)
--
Bruce
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Subject: Re: Can we can the suck-up bit?
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:15:41 GMT

hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG writes:
>stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>S'ok Stef - Size doesn't matter.

Or so they always say ... :-)

	fred "What were we talking about - penis size or breast size ?" walter
-- 
Disclaimer: everything I write is my *personal* opinion and does not represent
or reflect the opinion of the company which employs me.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:59:01 GMT

In article <ewillims.716209493@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>In <1992Sep10.180948.5527@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>>In article <ewillims.716139856@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>>>
>>>	You mean we'd only get brief sensations out of it, Trygve????
>>>	Ahhhh!  Too bad!  How disappointing!;>
>
>>Well, I suppose that all would depend on whether or not you were able to
>>persuade me to take off my briefs. 
>
>	"Persuade"????  Surely you jest?:>

Not into mere persuasion?  You're more the dominatrix type? 

>>Trygve   (Normally it's just the sensation of uncertainty that's brief--
>>          there are many others that last much longer.) 
>
>	Uncertainty?  Ahhh!  Poor baby, don't you know what to do?
>	Here I am...disappointed again! :(

Well, I'm sure this sensation of disappointment will be short-lived as well.

Trygve   (It's not so much that I don't know what to do as it is that 
          you don't know what I'm going to do--not until it's too late,
          anyway.)
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
Date: 12 Sep 92 04:33:14 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Emma Williams (ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie) wrote:
: Well, do you guys feel the same way?  Do you hate it if the woman makes
: it too obvious that she can't live without you?  Actually, I'm sure you
: probably do...I have heard men complain before about "clingy" women!

Well, I'd find this a bit flattering, but I'd worry about anyone who really
felt as if they couldn't live without someone else.  And if the someone else
was me, it'd probably scare the daylights out of me.  I have enough trouble
trying to keep my own life in working order without worrying about the
impact of anything I do on someone else.  I'll grant that the last point has
to be taken into consideration if you're in just about any relationship,
but if someone is that attached, I think it takes on a lot more magnitude.

Bill
-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
Organization: TFS
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:37:25 GMT

parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>I'm beginning to think there *is* no such thing as love at first sight.
>- Rachel

I think there is an internal reservation just not discussed, when things
seem great and it just won't go.
How long does a first sight last? I'm very romantic and affectionate,
and I believe in the concept of what I call 'magnetic' energy where
love, sex and affection are just variants of it. I very often develop
very deep feelings about a person very quickly. The problem, if it is
one, is that rational mind knows these feelings can get carried away.
People can take a long time to know well. You both need to have the
strong feeling and a good quick sense of the other person to have the
first click work. For one person, sure, I fall in 'love' quite easily,
and bide that - I've met people who I idealized in a certain way only to
find out that another quality invalidated what I liked. But you sure can
hit the point fast of saying, "I'd really like to know you."
-ecsd
From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Appeal to Net.Wisdom
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:08:34 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <lb25hfINNmus@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
>What can I say to a man to make him stop bothering me?  Let me define
>"bother".  I met him for a total of two days last year.  Two lousy
>days!  No romantic encounter.  Just him and his friends and I'm
>showing them around town.  He goes home, starts calling me weekly.  I
>disappear for a week, he starts calling me daily.  I get upset at him,
>he stops calling.  That was five months ago.
>
>He just called again.  He's going to be in town next month.  Ugh.  He
>hasn't made any romantic overtures (he's very good about that, I'm not
>sure I could bring a case against him!) and has only said friendly
>things.  He wants to hang out for a few days after business.  Double
>UGH!  A woman _knows_...
>
>I'm not going batty over this.  He's not worth the time.  It's like an
>itch in the back of your knee when you're wearing jeans.  Bothersome.
>What do I say to him??



How about "I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I don't like your company and would
be grateful if you would leave me alone"

rather than the usual bullshit..............

Regards,

	Neil


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From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:21:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep8.144039.21743@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>>There is hope for us hopeless romantics who fondly hope
>>that love will last.
>
> Well, that's a load off my mind.

Well, that's a load.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:42:09 GMT

In article <4157@moscom.UUCP> wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:
>Larry 'Purple' Hays (hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG) wrote:
>: In article <4125@moscom.UUCP>, wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:
>: >Hey, you never know.  Some of us are open to bribes.
>: 
>: I'll mail ya a lizard.  Green racer or horny toad?
>
>Good question.  Hey Trygve, got any recipe books that have Lizard Lasagna or 
>something equally possibly palettable?

 
 
 
Ummm...lizard recipes?  Well, let me take a look around here...hmmmm...
Nope, nothing in the Larousse Gastronomique...nothing in "Joy of
Cooking"...ah!  Here we go--"Better Moats and Dungeons Cookbook" page
281.
 
  Stuffed Lizard
 
Feed lizard as many mealworms as it will eat; 1-2 cups should be
sufficient for all but the most voracious of lizards.  When lizard is
full and won't eat any more, recipe is done.
 
  Lizard Casserole
 
Combine one cup mealworms with four tablespoons small crickets and
garnish with assorted insect larvae; place in warm area until ready to
serve.  Feeds three to six lizards.
 
Hmmm...looks like lizard recipes are pretty easy; you probably won't
have any trouble improvising things beyond what's in this cookbook.
 
Trygve
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:59:54 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
:  Anyways, Bill is cool and a very hard worker.

I was walking back from closing my windows (cold here tonight), and for a second
saw this as "Bill is cool and a very hard lurker.".  Thought I'd finally truly
found out why people lurk.
-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Cooking for 1!
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:59:10 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

>intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>>Angelwing - Garlic me 'til it hurts!

pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>the next roast chicken with too much garlic (six bulbs last time, but
>it wasn't a big bird) and you can even take some puree home with you.

Two of Bob Passovoy's Laws:

"There's no such thing as too much garlic."
"There's no such thing as too much chocolate."
-- 
Kiran Wagle <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
From: sharma@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Sandeep Sharma)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:06:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Kiran Wagle (from Prakash)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.singles

>  There's this security guard where
> I work and she always smiles at me in the morning. I know she does
> this just to irritate me. I notice she has a gun. What should I do?
> 
>> -PD

Don't worry . Here's the clue :

This is my rifle , 
this my gun .
First one's for killing ,
second's for fun. 

SS
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:39:56 GMT
	<JMD.92Sep14184802@lion.bear.com> <rawdon.716526002@cs.wisc.edu>
	<JMD.92Sep15115410@lion.bear.com> <29180@hydra.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI's message of 15 Sep 92 16:54:23 GMT


In article <29180@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:

						 This might sound selfish,
   but I am the most important person in my life.  I have the right to be
   treated equally in a relationship, I have the right to expect something
   from my partner.

And your partner has the right to know just what you want.  They can't
read minds; you have to tell them.  This is part of what I mean by
taking 100% responsibility.  If you want your relationship to be a
certain way, you have to tell your partner what you want.  So in fact,
by communicating your needs/desires you are taking some responsibility
for having those needs/desires satisfied.

   On the other hand, working for a relationship is a necessity.  The first
   thing to realize is that both me and my SO are human beings with needs,
   problems and flaws.

Can't argue with that...

					Spidey!!!



--
 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                              		   jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \          Beauty is the purgation of superfluities. -- Michelangelo
From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: The earth isn't hollow :-( was Re: Courtship Generic Algorithms
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:12:55 GMT
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>I don't believe that the earth is hollow or that the moon is made of ice

It's not, eh ? Darn. So much for the "Journey to the Center of the Earth" that
I was planning for my vacation. (Of course the moon isn't made of ice, it's 
made of green cheese. Get your facts straight :-)

	fred
-- 
Disclaimer: everything I write is my *personal* opinion and does not represent
or reflect the opinion of the company which employs me.
From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: General topic to break the monotony
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:27:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep8.205554.13138@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <14498@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep8.161856.26787@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>|In article <1992Sep8.152104.24662@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>>|>Da plane never cleared forty feet.
>>|>The skydivers needed to clear 500 ft to jump.
>>|
>>|Wrongola.  You need 500 ft for your shoot to deploy.  Don't jump
>>|unless you're at 750 ft please.
>>
>>If they were only up 40 feet why did they need a parachute?
>>
>
>To get to the other side.

 Oh, that's very funny...sounds like an answer to one of the oldest jokes 
 in the book....
> 
>Actually witness's said they never got above 40 damn feet. I wasn't there 
>but I thought I could act as an expert on the subject. OK. I don't know
>shit. If I could get my hands on their stinking scrawny necks..
> 
>On a nonrelated topic I would just like to say:
>Someday I hope to meet lots of women with John Fereira, Larry 'purple' Hayes.
>and Larry Margolis. In other words cruise for babes in a refined, respectfull
>manner. 
>If I did not misspell your name let me know and I'll take care of it.
> 
>Bostonbabyboink would be just to painfull.
>*SNORK*
> 
>================================================================================
> Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
>================================================================================

Scotto,
kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:55:33 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <JMD.92Sep14182500@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>In article <rawdon.716262195@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
>   In <JMD.92Sep11173357@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>   >And people: STOP TELLING EVERYONE THAT THEY ARE WRONG!  The fact that
>   >you haven't made it work for you in the past DOES NOT INDICATE THAT IT
>   >WILL NOT WORK!

>   This sounds to me a lot like saying, "The fact that you've done poorly at
>   math before does not indicate that you'll do poorly in the future."  Sure,
>   it doesn't mean conclusively that it won't, but, given a reasonable amount
>   of experience with math (whatever "reasonable" is), it DOES indicate IMO
>   that it is VERY, VERY UNLIKELY that you will do well at it in the future.

>You seem to have missed the primary point: You are expending a huge
>amount of time and energy in attempting to prove that you are right,
>and I am wrong.  You attempt to prove that you have no control over
>your results.  BULLSHIT!  The fact is that if you really want to be in
>a relationship, you will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to create that
>relationship.  If that means that you have to change your beliefs
>about yourself (and I believe it does), SO BE IT.

I got your point fine.  You seem to have missed mine, that is to say, that
I think that your assertion is (to use your own word) bullshit.

>A counter-example to your argument: Identical twins A and B take the
>SAT, and both get the same poor score.  Twin A takes a remedial course
>(e.g. Princeton Review), twin B does nothing.  Both take the test
>again.  Chances are that twin A will get a higher score than twin B.
>Why? Because twin A put some effort into getting the result he/she
>wanted!

Sample set of 1 => Not very useful premises on which to base your data.
(Besides which, I disagree with your assertion that "chances are that twin
A will get a higher score than twin B."  Can you support this?)

>Is it possible that the reason some people have not succeeded is that
>they have not examined which techniques actually work, and are still
>using the same old ones which were not effective in the last 50
>attempts?  Have they done all that could be done to achieve the
>success that they desire?  I think not.

>New success is indeed very unlikely if one is unwilling to take action
>to improve the chances of success.  

Funny, these paragraphs bear very little resemblance to what you were saying
in your last article.  Are we supposed to listen to what you mean and not
what you say, then?

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"A pretty sight it seemed to be; an avenue of eternal peace,
 but he said, 'What is here can soon burn down... I'm the king of sunset
	town."
						- Marillion
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:56:18 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

: 	Well, this would further support the theory about the sexual
: hormones (pheronomes).  Presumably, you would be releasing them in
: abundance if you have just had sex and therefore would attract others
: to the smell without them realising why.  Moose do it!  Why do you 
: think theyr put musk in perfumes and aftershaves! ;>
:

	When I see a woman in the company of
        a man then I don't tend to find her as attractive, perhaps
        because I see her a lost cause as I would not be able to compete
        (I hate the idea of competing for mates like a orang-utan or
        something) . Perhaps this has something to do with a supposed
        difference between men and women - the latter seek mates who are able
         to support them and offspring and the company of a woman suggests
        that another woman has already determined that they are, and the
        former see a woman who might already be carrying the offspring
        of another man. (reducing it to its primordial origins). Seems
        a little unromantic to me...

	Aaron Turner		aaron@minster.york.ac.uk