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From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cost of Living
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:52:38 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct15.124024.8170@ac.dal.ca> cscf0022@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Can someone post a synopsis of 'Cost of Living'? It's hard to keep track
>of some threads when I've forgotten what the episode was about!
>     Thanks in advance.


You're lucky:  there are some of out here who would like to be able to
forget "Cost of Living", but are unable to.  Here's a brief synopsis:

Lwaxana Troi arrives, planning to marry someone she has never met, and
interferes with the upbringing of the ship's brat.  Memorable lines
include "The higher, the fewer", and "That's all?  You just SIT here?"

Tim
-- 
"I have since learned that words are only as valid as the mind that chooses
them.  To choose too carefully is to become pedantic, closing the imagination to
wider visions, yet to err the other way is to invite anarchy into one's mind."
   -- Christopher Priest, _The Affirmation_
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From: rbeck@mordordseg.ti.com (Ron Beck)
Subject: Re: nudity on trek
Reply-To: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com
Organization: is an esoteric concept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 18:09:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.124245.18401@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct6.112231.29722@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> amcmicha@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrew McMichael) writes:
|> >Now that the show "Civil Wars" has seen fit to go with a parental
|> >warning and show us the greater portion of on of their female
|> >character's breasts, how soon till :TNG follows suit?  I mean,
|> >if Marial Hemmingway [sp?] can stoop to prime time nakedness,
|> >resident 'boob-queen' Marina Sirtis can be capable of no less? Or
|> >perhaps some aliens who don't wear shirts?  Ratings week must
|> >be coming up soon and we all know that everybody [trek included]
|> >will do anything to get high ratings.  Any bets?
|> 
|> Andrew,
|> What is this show Civil Wars?  When is it on?  What stations carry it?  I find 
|> it difficult to believe that a non-cable channel would show nudity during
|> prime time.  Please post with any further info you can.
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 
|> -Mitchel
|> 

I believe that it's a new (or continued?) series on one of the
networks.  I don't watch the show but I seem to remember seeing ads
for it.  I also seem to remember that it's on at 10:00/9:00 which
(also if memory serves me) is not considered prime time by the
networks (prime time being from 7:00 to 9:59 Eastern time inclusive).

Of course I could also be way off base here too!
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From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: new music....
Date: 11 Oct 92 04:34:03 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

am I the *ONLY* one that thinks the new "next weeks eppisode" music SUCKS???? Last
season, the music during the NWE was NEAT, and EXCITING... this season, all it is
is one note.... and I think it bites the big one.  maybee it's just me.

And is it just me, or have the episodes so far this season been boring as hell???
From: bwise@hemlock.mitre.org (Barry Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Dyson Sphere (spoilers)
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:14:08 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <2ADE306D.7009@news.service.uci.edu> sclancy@orion.oac.uci.edu  
(Steve Clancy) writes:

> The dyson sphere was supposed to have been made or "carbon
> neutronium."  Now I'm not exactly sure what that is chemically, but it
> sounds very dense to me.  Remember that the Enterprise detected an
> intense "gravity well" at the beginning. Perhaps the material of the
> sphere is dense enough to provide a natural gravity for the
> inhabitants on the inside surface.
>  
> 

Sorry, doesn't work that way. The gravitational force anywhere within a  
spherical shell is zero. The contribution from the area below you is cancelled  
out by the area above you. It's not intuitive but it's one of the calculations  
you go through is freshman physics.

--
Barry Wise
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 06:54:45 GMT

d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis) writes:

 >I just picked up a copy of the new book "The ST:TNG Companion", which has a 
 >great deal of behind-the-scenes information.  The author is definitely on 
 >the side of O'Brien being a Lt.  However, he didn't directly address the 
 >inconsistency.

 >O'Brien was _clearly_ a Lt. until Sergei Rozhenko's line in "Family". 

To me at least, Sergey didn't make that fact any less clear.
Especially since nothing HE said was at all "clear" or logical.

 >There were times in the dialog when he had been addressed by the rank of Lt.
 >Even after "Family", many of TPTB insisted he was still officially a Lt.  
 >But Eric Stillwell, the Pre-production Associate and keeper of continuity, 
 >went on record as following Rozhenko (rather than the uniform and previous 
 >conflicting dialog).  It is only this season that somebody realized that 
 >the uniform pips had to be changed for consistency with Stillwell's "final
 >answer".

WHEN/where did this "on record" thing take place?  Was it before or after 
he quit and went to work for Cretin con?   I talked with Eric for a while
in person last season, and he was definitely NOT saying that back then.
The basic line was that some confusion was certainly going on, but his 
uniform at least was absolutely that of a LT.  It sounded to me like he
was saying "believe your eyes" more than any conflicting info from a
particular writer...
From: mdp2842@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: _The_God_Thing_ (was Re: _Best Destiny_ novel: Diane Carey can't write!)
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:34:12 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: mdp2842@ultb

In article <rccarm00.719035894@mik.uky.edu> rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:
>   Objections from the Roddenberry estate killed _The_God_Thing_.
>And even if _The_God_Thing_ had been released, _Best_Destiny_ would
>have been released too; it isn't actually a replacement.

I haven't heard anything about this. What were this book suppose to be about?
Why did the Roddenberry estate object to it? I knew that Roddenberry was
suppose to be a co-writer on it, so I would think that they would want one
of his last projects to be released. Of course, since I know very little about
it, I could be wrong.

E-mail or posted information about this would be appreciated. I will post
a summary of e-mail responses if anyone asks.

Thanks in advance,
Mike
From: kbarger@cellar.org (Kyle Barger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lore and Tasha: 2 questions
Date: 10 Oct 92 16:37:20 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

johnnyp@athena.mit.edu (John Piscitello) writes:

> 	Why did they kill Tasha off? (It's tomorrow night's episode
> on the repeats here in Boston). I've heard rumours that Denise Crosby
> was fired for posing in Playboy. Does anyone out there know the true
> story as to why they killed her off?

If it did have anything to do with Playboy, it was pretty small of them. 
According to "The Bare Facts Video Guide:  Where to Find your Favorite
Actors & Actresses Nude on Videotape", Crosby appeared in Playboy in 1979,
and the same pictures were reprinted in May 1988 (I think that's after she
was written out.) 



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From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Realm of Fear: space worms ???
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:47:37 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct07.041612.24518@microsoft.com+ iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
+In article <91310@rphroy.ph.gmr.com+ rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
++In article 22610@ra.msstate.edu, rat1@me1.MsState.Edu (Robert Thompson) writes:
+++ Paraphrase: Just where were the Yosimiti(sp?) crew beaming to?
++They weren't going anywhere. They were trying to remove the 
++plasma organisms that infected the four crewmen in the same way the
++the Enterprise disinfected Barclay. 
+
+But why? You get the parasites during transport. Therefore they were
+transporting somewhere. Where were they going?

They got infected when the plasma they had beamed aboard blew out the
container it was in.

Tim
-- 
"I have since learned that words are only as valid as the mind that chooses
them.  To choose too carefully is to become pedantic, closing the imagination to
wider visions, yet to err the other way is to invite anarchy into one's mind."
   -- Christopher Priest, _The Affirmation_
From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brian...SPOILER?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:41:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct12.172743.26819@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>

>    Ever seen DieHard2? Colm Meany has been in a number of films in the
>past, it just so happens that in the new Steven Segal movie Under Seige
>he actually has a fairly major role. Word has it, he also has a bit part
>in Last of the Mohecans.
>
I felt his role in Far and Away with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman was a
fairly major role, more so than his role in DieHard2.

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine
From: irwin@juliet.caltech.edu (Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: nudity on trek
Date: 7 Oct 1992 08:55 PST
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <chil.718454882@sfu.ca>, chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim) writes...
>It's already been done, I think. In the episode <spit> "Cost of Living":
>the dancing woman by the mud bath.
> 
Actually, it's been done (to a limited extent) on a number of occasions...
just off the top of my head:
	A Matter of Perspective-the art workshop in the teaser
	Menage a Troi-when Deanna and Lwuxanna were beamed w/o their clothes
	Deja Q-when Q first arrives on the bridge ("Red Alert" :-)
as well as the aforementioned scene in CoL.
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From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
Subject: Re: *Spoiler* Comments on "Man of the People"
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Distribution: na,world
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.021038.1827@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:

>Also, why is it that no one makes any comments on Troi's flowing gray hair?

Actually I believe Data made a comment in Ten Forward saying, "Counselor
Troi seems to have changed her appearance."  Riker gave him a funny
look at that understatement.

I would assume that with their level of technology and the presence
of so many cultures and customs, they would be able to change their appearance
quite easily.  Riker was only upset that it was out of character for Troi.
He even made a comment as to what she had done to her hair.

Yasmin

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From: holliday@cse.unl.edu (david holliday)
Subject: Re: TNG actors outside of TNG (was Re: Sybok....Vulcan Defense Attorney...)
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:41:44 GMT

>YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:

>>bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras) writes:
>>Data (and Lore) in the TV Series "Night Court" several times.

Which episodes? What character did he play?

Dave
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From: phil@csc.liv.ac.uk (Phil Jimmieson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: star trek TNG censorship: I.R.A. victory
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:38:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <1687810F1C.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.171326.10146@bsu-ucs.uucp>
> 00rdharringt@bsu-ucs.uucp (Rob Harrington) writes:
>  
> >
> >In article <DEMILLO.92Oct6162905@egeus.juliet.ll.mit.edu>, demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo ) writes:
> >> In article <pmcgttgn.718377094@unix1.tcd.ie> pmcgttgn@unix1.tcd.ie (Paul Mc Gettigan ) writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Do any of you trekkies out there know the title of the episode in ST/new generation in which
> >>> a reference is made to a 'fictional' victory of the IRA (Irish Republican Army) over the
> >>> British forces sometime in the 21st century.
> >
> >yeah it was an episode dealing with terrorism.  Bev gets kidnapped to help
> >care for injured terrorists and one thing leads to another.  In it Data
> >refers to how force has been shown to be effective to bring about political
> >change, as seen in the Irish Unification of 2017 (Note this is from memory,
> >some of it may be wrong, like the date)
> >
>    The name of the episode is "The High Ground" from the third season.
> The tape is not available in the US, but it may be available in UK.  My
> recollection was that neither side came off looking too well, but from
> the title, that was the whole point.
>  

The episode is available on video from CIC. Should cost about 10.99 (pounds).
The video tape also features the TNG episode "The Hunted".

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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:26:54 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <1992Oct13.171059.20332@athena.mit.edu> johnnyp@athena.mit.edu (John Piscitello) writes:
>>kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>:)Because of the low quality of the recent episodes and the even lower
>>:)quality of the *promisings* of upcoming episodes, I am dropping
>>:)ST:TNG from my viewing schedule effective immediately. I will not be 
>>:)reviewing (or watching) "Relics", nor will there be any further episode 
>>:)reviews from this site.
>
>	Well, you certainly won't be missed. Let's have the REAL FANS of TNG
>take this newsgroup BACK! Enough of these pretentious reviewers whose only
>purpose in life is to tear down the work of others. TNG is among the
>top shows on television. Even when it's at its worst, it outranks
>all of the brain-dead garbage being shown on the networks.

Yesiree!!!!

It's time for the annual "LET'S BASH THE REVIEWERS FLAMEFEST!!!!"

Allow me to put in my Cr. 4837 (adjusted for 300+ years of inflation.
;-)

'REAL FANS', eh?  I take this to mean 'drooling fanboy who dare not
ask for quality entertainment from a show just because it has the
'Star Trek' label on it, eh? ;-)

[I must be getting jaded when I have more fun watching the sparks fly
here on r.a.st.* instead of actually watching the show. ;-)]

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From: castlet@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: FAQL: FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS LIST for rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:21:01 GMT
Organization: GTE Govt. Systems, Electronics Def. Div.

> ...another member of the Q continuum, played by William Campbell (who
> played  Trelane  in  "Squire  of  Gothos").

If I'm not mistaken, William Campbell died a couple of years back. Seems
like I saw it on "Entertainment Tonight" or something like that. I could
be wrong, or mis-remembering, but it seems like something about him 
came up in the past couple of years.


       -T.C.

<wee don't neeed no steeenkeeeng seeegnatures!>
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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Realm of Fear: space worms ???
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:31:07 GMT


The explosion had already happened...DR crusher even said the explosion didn't
kill him...maybe the virus did?
Stephen
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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: Plexing may actually work (!!)
Keywords: Plexing, relaxation, nervous system, "Realm of Fear", Troi
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:52:25 GMT

sroberts@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sarah Lynn Roberts) writes:
>I guess I should have a disclaimer here...  None of the views expressed by me 
>any time soon, if proven to be incorrect, are grounds for a malpractice suit.
>Whew!  That was close.

I can't imagine someone filing a malpractice suit, but
I would recommend that those who doubt this self-treatment
try it out.

The worst thing that can happen is that they remain per-plexed!



(I can't believe nobody has used this ridiculous pun yet.)


-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Relics (mistakes) ***SPOILERS***
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:58:30 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

^L

In <Bw2pA6.55p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jes44606@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Eric Small) writes:

>Is this right or am I remembering something else.  In other words, the
>gravity experienced on the inner surface of the sphere would seem to be 
>zero unless you provided some "centrifugal" (sp?) force to simulate
>gravity (easily accomplished with such a sphere).  Physics majors?
>Thanks.

Nope.  Centrifugal force wouldn't do the trick it this case -- all
the atmosphere would pile up around the "equator" of the sphere,
leaving the rest of the interior in vacuum.  You'd need some type
of gravity generator that didn't obey the usual inverse-square law.
(Or just build a transparent inner shell as a "roof" to keep the 
atmosphere and let everyone live in freefall.  But that wasn't
done here because we saw oceans on the interior wall.)
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: pad is sexy and nude!
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:48:43 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <w2cPsB8w165w@freddyk.uucp> edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Edward Langenback) writes:

>****Spiderman 2099****?!?!?  do you happen to mean the Marvel Comics 
>character (or more likely a decendant i guess)

Not a descendent, just similar powers/costume.

>one question?  Where to get it?


Your local Comics Shop or newsstand (ie. supermarkets, drug stores, etc.)

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of anyone at all}
From: smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil (Sten M. Drescher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:32:56 GMT
	<9210112204.AA02063@hrt216.brooks.af.mil>
	<anton_sanderfoot-111092181810@lazarow2.life.uiuc.edu>
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB

In article <anton_sanderfoot-111092181810@lazarow2.life.uiuc.edu> anton_sanderfoot@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (Tony Sanderfoot) writes:

   Newsgroups
   However... Now that the line is that he is being PROMOTED to chief of
   operations at DS9 (maybe that's a spoiler, though I doubt it), and the
   sudden appearance of a single hollow pip, and Barclay is ordering him
   around in RoF, I fully believe that he is being retconned to a Chief Petty
   Officer. Oh, well, that's the way it goes with the powers that be
   sometime...

Hmmm, here at Brooks AFB (a rather small base), the Chief of Operations
is a Col. (Capt equivalent).  Now, unless DSN is a VERY small station,
I'll find it very hard to accept anything less than a LtCmdr as Chief of
Operations.
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-------------------------------+ and justice.  On the other hand, there are
sdrescher@animal.brooks.af.mil | presidential candidates.
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From: "donald simmons" <donald.simmons@canrem.com>
Subject: motp:picard & crusher
Reply-To: "donald simmons" <donald.simmons@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:07:05 EST

     Following up on the comments from 'Realm of Fear' on the scene
where Picard is breathing down Bev's neck (and seems to have his arm
around her if you look closely!), when Deanna attacks Picard in the
transporter room and has to be dragged kicking and screaming off him,
when Bev enters she doesn't turn to Deanna but RUSHES to Picard to see
how he is. I thought at the time that she seemed to be more than
formally worried here.

Donald Simmons
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