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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CISC and RISC
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 07:30:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <37844@cbmvax.commodore.com> <Bz8FD1.Dxt@ns1.nodak.edu>
  <1992Dec14.155039.7747@ugle.unit.no> <BzAxFw.Is6@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
  <BzBtx4.DLE@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>

|I don't remember seeing volumes of articles, or hearing many complaints
|from RISC OS implementors about how difficult it is to generate code
|for RISC as opposed to CISC.
 They do have a vested interest in making the RISC processor work....
|
|
|It seems to me like your arguments against RISC are that it is more
|difficult to program from a software point of view.  Well the benefits
|you get are mostly embodied in the hardware improvements (speed,
|design, fab processes, scalability, and whatever else RISC chip
|companies deem important).  RISC vendors work closely with compiler
|implementors when designing the instruction sets.  Essentially, the
|machine interface for most software people becomes the compiled
|language.  I mean, as an asm programmer, would you really want to
|keep track of what values you have in 64 or more registers?  :-)
|So get rid of the asm programmers (or lock them up in a compiler
|vendor's lab) and everyone will be pretty happy.
  Having had personal experience in programming a RISC processor, There
  are always situations that require you to go to assembler.  I have
  had to do that.  Believe the voice of experience, give me a CICS
  processor any time!  Besides, the 68040 has a 1.3 instruction/clock
  execution rate, that is nearly as fast as most RISC machines.  So
  what if the instructions execute three times faster if you need almost
  twice as many!  In a SPARC, I had 3 instructions to load data from
  memory(two to build the address, one to load relative to the address
  in a register), It sure executed those instructions fast...
  If I never had to get to the machine leve, I would not care
  what was under the C compiler!
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From: wilhelm@Sirius.dfn.de (Martin Wilhelm)
Subject: Re: a1200 ide problems
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:14:16 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: DFN-GS

"john golitsis" <john.golitsis@canrem.com> writes:

>I too have been having many problems with the A1200 IDE interface.  I
>work at an Amiga dealership on the University of Toronto (Ontario,
>Canada) and we have had two A1200 come into stock so far.  I purchased
>Quantum 80MB Go-Drives to install into the machines.  I experienced the
>exact same problems as Mr. Andy Colebourne stated in his message of Dec.
>14, namely large files become corrupt.  Commodore Canada tech. support
>came up with some storey about ADOS 3.0 having a bug which corrupts
>files which are greater than 1/2 the available RAM.  This does not match
>the testing I have done.
>
>The only way I have been able to get the IDE drive working properly is
>to NOT use the Fast File System...these seems to be reliable with the
>amount of testing I have been able to do.
This is exactly what I experienced. I have installed a JVC 40 Meg drive.
There was no problem in formatting it with FFS. The problem was that it
was not possible to boot. The drive got stuck with the activity LED turned
on. It was however possible to boot from floppy and then to open windows
on the hard drive. Any attempt to click an icon resulted in a hang-up of the
hard drive.
It was possible to format with OFS. In this configuration it works, but it
is slooooooooow. Diskspeed 4.2 reported 134 kByte/s. I called a dealer and
he said that they did not had problems with a Seagate 80Meg drive.
In addition, I have tried REOrg 3.2. After some time the hard drive got
stuck: activity led turned on, nothing happening.
The dealer suspected that C='s IDE implementation might be not exactly
follow the specs.
>
>The really bad news is that BOTH our A1200 have serious problems after
>the hard drive has been installed and running.  After awhile (from 5
>minutes to 1 day so far) the 1200 will do something really weird to the
>hard drive and the system will refuse to boot!  The power LED flashes,
>the system resets, and the whole thing happens again and again.
>
>This time, according to Commodore tech. support, a bunch of A1200 CPU's
>went out the door with poor soldering jobs.  The serial numbers on these
>system with 888 and 889 so I can sort of understand this (sort of...)
>
>I definately don't want to start any bad Q.C. rumors here.  The A1200
>appears to be an excellent machine and the performance on the system
>with the Quantum Go-Drive appeared to be excellent before these failures
>began to crop up.
>
>By the way...I experienced the exact same problems on our store demos
>A4000 when I tried to add a second (Maxtor) hard drive.  Large files
>would become corrupt.  I gave up on trying to installed this drive after
>2 days of fiddling.  I think there are some problems with the V39 Fast
>File System...
>--
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From: mcphil@med.unc.edu (Philip McNamara)
Subject: Quantum LP120S
Originator: mcphil@cahaba
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:13:20 GMT


Ok, simple question number 1.  How many megabytes will fit on  a 
Quantum LP120S?  120 or close enough to round up?  So... like 
115 or 119?  I just purchased a new one from Computer Shopping
Network and can only get 114 mgeabytes using FFS.  The drive did not
come with a sector error chart, so I am assuming no errors.  Safe
assumption?  I don't know, can someone help?

Philip McNamara 
McPhil@med.unc.edu 

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From: jeremym@fraser.sfu.ca (Jeremy Thomas McDonald)
Subject: My audio ports are REVERSED!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:15:21 GMT

I have an A3000/25 and my audio ports are reversed (left is right and right
is left).  How do I know this?  I have programmed audio channels 1 and 2
and they both come out of the LEFT side of the jacks.  0 and 3 come out of
the RIGHT side.  Argh.  The RKM says the opposite, and so does MultiPlayer
and EdPlayer2.1 (in VU mode 2).  Anyone else have the same problem?     
Is this true for all A3000s?  A4000s?  A1200s?  etc. etc.  Maybe the
motherboard designer had a bit too much to drink that day :)
Please reply.  I intend to market an audio program, and it would be nice
if I knew which side is which!   Thanks in advance...
From: cse_stu@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: High density drives
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:09:17 -0600
Summary: why not have a new floppy controler?
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

Why doesn't someone come out with a floppy control card for 2000/3000/4000 that
can handle high density and 4meg ED floppy disks. Make a card and a driver and
everyone can quit complaining. Maybe come out with an adatper card for the
500/600/1200 also.
===========
video man
======
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Stupid question of the week:  Why not a VGA card in your A2
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:09:15 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Dec13.030321.19353@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
 >In article <Boinger.07nc@myamy.hacktic.nl> boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl
 >(Paul Kolenbrander) writes:
 > 
 >>> It already has been done: the GoldenGate II (not to be confused with
 >>> Vortex's "Golden Gate" products) from David Salamon.
 >
 >>Hmm. tell me, who's writing the driver for it? This would mean my
 >>386 would lose it's ET-4000 sVGA card to Amy PDQ. :-) 
 >
 >Sorry, the Golden Gate won't allow you to do this. Besides, without RTG,
 >how would you display Workbench? 

Yes it will! Please note that "II" in the name of the board. The first
version didn't have any RAM space to share with the PC side, so no VGA
was indeed possible. But version II does provide this and David has
already confirmed that everything is prepared for a VGA card. Paul is
completely right that it's "only" a question of a proper driver to let
this thing fly :-).

-- 
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Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
Wer's nicht kann, soll's bleiben klopfen oder Steine lassen!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: fischers@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Samuel Fischer)
Subject: very very Old Keyboard Problem
Keywords: Keyboard A2000b 
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:54:24 GMT
Summary: Keyboard ignores the first char.

Hi there,

I got a(nother:) 'problem' with my A2000b (rev 4.1). Well, in fact it's 
nothing new, I had it all the time for the last 5 or 6 years, but I just
thought I would fix it NOW. (As I perhaps want to sell my A2000 to buy an
A4000:)

The problem is this : my Keyboard ignores the first key I press, when I turn 
the computer ON. I know that I have to exchange something, but I don't
remember WHAT it was.  Does someone know the solution?

thanx a lot,
sammy
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From: scott@statsci.com (Scott Blachowicz)
Subject: Re: SCSI disk freezing system...suggestions?
Reply-To: scott@statsci.com
Organization: Statistical Sciences, Inc., Seattle, WA USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:02:56 GMT

>>>>> "me" == Scott Blachowicz <scott@statsci.com>

 me>    Not sure this is really a hardware problem, but...
Yeah, well...

 me> I have an A1000 with
 me>    -it's normal 512K
 me>    -a MicroBotics StarBoard II with 2 Mb installed
 me>    -a SupraDrive 4x4 (v 1.10d or so) SCSI connected to a Seagate 1096N (or
 me>     maybe 4096, I forget which) 84 Mb drive.
 me>    -AmigaDOS 1.3

 me> I've some occasional problems where the HD would just lock up with the
 me> busy light on constantly. I can't hear any disc activity during this
 me> period. Also, the pointer tracking on the display is frozen as well. It
 me> listens to the Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga reboot sequence, but nothing else that I
 me> can tell.  Usually, a power cycle would bring it back. The other day it
 me> did its trick; I power cycled everything, but it still hangs trying to
 me> mount one of the partitions at boot time. I have a pseudo-recent (2-3
 me> weeks...low activity level on disc), but I'd like to avoid wiping the
 me> disc if I can. Does anyone have any suggestions for thawing out my
 me> system?
Hey dummy! Check the cables...a loose cable was causing my problems
(effectively giving me an unterminated SCSI bus). Maybe I'll go make sure that
"recovery" disc has the tape driver for my tape drive, and the tar command I
use for backups, ... 

Arggghhh!

--
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                                                      1700 Westlake Ave N #500
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..or..     Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org
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From: y88kenek@odalix.ida.liu.se (Kenneth Ekman)
Subject: Re: How programmable is ECS?
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:06:52 GMT

mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:

>In <37758@cbmvax.commodore.com> spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson) writes:
>>No, there is no tool to do so, simply because with such a tool, it would be real
>>easy for someone who doesn't know what they are doing to damage their monitor.

Ok, but what I think a lot of people would want to make with that tool is
a (slow and flickering) screen with something like 1024 x 768 pixels.
It might be quite usable for viewing SVGA pictures, which often
flickers less than for example wb. One might not expect somenone
to make such a monitorfile available? Or would it be hard to find
a monitor that could handle the odd scanfrequency?

>Regards,
>-- 
>Michael van Elst
>UUCP:     universe!local-cluster!milky-way!sol!earth!uunet!unido!mpirbn!p554mve
>Internet: p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
>                                "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."

Kenneth.
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: AGA artifacts, shimmer
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:23:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>On all of the AGA machines, a fine pattern of vertical lines could
>be seen on the screen.  The lines were 8 pixels apart.  On one machine,

>Have any AGA users out there noticed the same thing?  Commodore, what
>will you do about it?

My 4000 with Princeton 1400 monitor exhibits no such effects.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: "john golitsis" <john.golitsis@canrem.com>
Subject: a600 hard drive cable
Reply-To: "john golitsis" <john.golitsis@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:44:36 EST

Need an Amiga 600 (or 1200) hard drive cable??

Order one from Commodore, or a Commodore dealer.  The part nubmer is
364-435-01.  They sell for about $15cdn.  (What's that, about 50 cents
US?????)
--
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From: paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr)
Subject: Re: SCSI disk freezing system...suggestions?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:27:36 CST



   First I'd make sure the cable is still good and that its not makeing a
 loose connection.  Secondly, I'd make sure the SCSI IDs of all the HDs
 connected to the bus are different.  But since you have only one connected
 thats no problem.  Thirdly, have you started running any new programs or
 added any other hardware lately?  I had this same problem with my system
 after I bought a Vector.  I have 2.05 installed and I found the problem to
 be with MachII.  I got rid of MachII and all is fine now.  Fourthly, I'd
 make sure the temination is one the LAST PHYSICAL drive on the bus.


    Daniel Baehr

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From: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Subject: A2286 AT Bridgeboard problems
Organization: None
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:05:12 GMT

I just got a new A2286 AT Bridgeboard and installed it in my Rev. 4 German
motherboard A2000.  I have Workbench/Kickstart 2.04.  I ran the Amiga
Janus version 2.1 installer and put everything on SYS: except for a 30 MB
virtual drive on Work:  At the end of the installation it couldn't start up
PCPrefs, "Could not open Janus.library".  I added 

assign LIBS: SYS:Expansion add

before BindDrivers, so now when I start up PCPrefs it ponders awhile before
coming back with "Could not open..." (before it gave the message immediately).

SysInfo 2.69 reports address $FF000000, 0K, ZORRO II, and XTBRIDGEBOARD or
ATBRIDGEBOARD depending on which slot it is and how hard I bang it.

I installed the 5.25" drive which came with no instructions.  The cable is
one of those ones with a twist in it.

I also have a GVP Series II HC+8 card that works fine.

A problem with the bridge connectors???

I got an XT BB with my A2000 in 1987 and it worked great for about a year and
then it blew and I had to replace it, and the replacement worked fine, but
then it was a bit flaky after I hadn't used it for a year or so.  




-- 
Richard J. Akerman   | akerman@QUCIS.QueensU.Ca    |    "There is no plot."
                     | akerman@QUCIS.BITNET        | -Guinan in Time's Arrow II 
                     | akerman@bill.phy.queensu.ca |    Star Trek: The Next 
                     | akerman@qucdnast.BITNET     |        Generation
From: bryan@cs.utexas.edu (Bryan Bayerdorffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 3-Button Mouse Questions
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:47:38 -0600
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In article <168BDDBD.WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU> WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:
=-In article <lin1skINNlvg@peaches.cs.utexas.edu>
=-bryan@cs.utexas.edu (Bryan Bayerdorffer) writes:
=- 
=->In article <168BCB13E.WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU> WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:
=->=-
=->=-I WOULD like to know how to use the middle button for Snap, but no biggie..
=->=-(I don't use the middle button..  I just liked the feel of the mouse.. :)
=->=-
=->
=->It's pretty easy to recompile Snap to use the middle button.  Just replace all
=->occurrences of RMB with MMB in the handler code.
=- 
=- 
=-Is there any way to do it externally?  There is the option of using the
=-middle button as a qualifier, rather than a key, but when the middle
=-button was selected for use, I couldn't get snap to snap anything..
=- 

This should work under 1.62.  I thik earlier versions had a bug that prevented
this. 

To clarify, one has to recompile snap to make the MMB do what the RMB does by
default, i.e., perform the insert action.  If you just want to use the MMB as a
qualifier, the option you mentioned should work.
From: shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CISC and RISC
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:19:14 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <Bz8FD1.Dxt@ns1.nodak.edu>, dewald@plains.NoDak.edu (Eric Dewald)
writes:
>Why should computer makers go from CISC to RISC?
>
>I was under the impression that CISC meant complicated instruction set
>and RISC meant reduced instruction set. So wouldn't that mean larger
>code size on a RISC machine compared to CISC.
>
>What are the advantages of CISC and RISC?
>Thank you in advance,
>Eric Dewald
>dewald@plains.NoDak.edu
        A RISC machine runs each instruction faster than a CISC machine does,
but a CISC machine get's more done with each instruction.
                Jay Brown

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IBM MAKES IT IN BULK...MACINTOSH MAKES IT POPULAR, BUT ONLY AMIGA MAKES IT     
                           POSSIBLE.
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From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 1024 x 768
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:24:14 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.

y88kenek@odalix.ida.liu.se (Kenneth Ekman) writes:

>First: No, I don't usually comment on my own articles...


>y88kenek@odalix.ida.liu.se (Kenneth Ekman) writes:

>>spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson) writes:

>>>A 1024 x 768 mode would have a refresh rate of 30Hz. Hardly useable!

>>I don't want to agree there...
>...

>I think I see what you mean... I got a little carried away there. 
>That's 15 Hz without intelace... Unuseable, like you said...

What are you talking about it should be 50hz with interlace, just look at
the math and the given amount of loss.  Might be tough and you will
have to lower a bit but hardly down to 30hz with interlace.  Get a filter
screen and it should be almost usefull.  And should work on a 1960 monitor.
Should be alright for graphic oriented stuff.  I often work in pal interlace.

As soon as I get some docs on 3.0 and can figure out a way to make my own
monitor type I shall do so.  Yet I know it will be a long time until the
books come out on it and the includes will take a while too.

Martin

-- 
I will never buy anything that Bill SATAN LIVES Gates' presently owns.
From: ric@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Ric Peregrino)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:47:20 GMT
Subject: bootless memory
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware


Hello comp.sys.amiga...

I own an A2000 with a Trump card and an 8-UP memory card. It broke.
I'm looking for information that may help me troubleshoot it.

It boots only without the memory board. With the memory board in,
the screen changes two shades of gray and then stops. What does
this tell me about how far the system got before it gives up?

It mostly doesn't work, but, maybe 10% of the time it starts to
boot and then has a GURU 3.1970

Any help appreciated,

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From: snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Kodak Photo CD
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:21:02 GMT
Reply-To: snolan@marge.hq.af.mil
Organization: 7th Communications Group

In article <Bz49nn.3pw@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
|> >>Does anyone know what it requires to be Kodak Photo CD compadiable?  Is it in
|> >>the CD-ROM hardware or is it just a matter of a software driver to access
|> >>the new file format?
|> >
|> >A CD-ROM that handles ISO-9660, the right software, and a license from Kodak!
|> 
|>    A CD-ROM drive that can handle multisession discs would also be nice.  If
|> you later turn your discs in to have additional pictures put on them, it would
|> be nice to be able to see the pictures.
|> 
Gee, Marc, could you tell us just what this "multi-session" disc
format is?  Do you even know?

I am really curious, because I also have a Mac at home and I am
thinking of getting a CD-ROM drive for it as well.  The vendors in the
Macintosh world are all pushing this "multi-session compatible" plug,
and I am wondering if it is a bunch of hoopla...

Or is it just in the accompanying software?

-- 
Scott Nolan
snolan@marge.hq.af.mil
==============================================================

Even if you are on the right path,
If you just sit there you will get run over.

			- will rodgers
From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Kodak Photo CD
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:08:32 MET
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In article <37760@cbmvax.commodore.com> spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson) writes:
> In article <71278@cup.portal.com> stb@cup.portal.com (Stan Robert Hodge) writes:
> >Hey,
> >
> >Does anyone know what it requires to be Kodak Photo CD compadiable?  Is it in
> >the CD-ROM hardware or is it just a matter of a software driver to access
> >the new file format?
> 
> A CD-ROM that handles ISO-9660, the right software, and a license from Kodak!

Shouldn't it also be CD-XA compatible? Otherwise you won't be able to see
all the pictures. (single session vs dual session?) Or am I mixing up info
that I got? BTW, how is C= progressing on the Kodak licensing front. Unless
I'm considerably underestimating you guys, the right software must be on the
C= shelf/safe already. :-) 

> Spencer Shanson - Amiga Software Engineer     | email: spence@commodore.COM

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