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From: lynch@ils.nwu.edu (Richard Lynch)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: A Learning Experience
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:49:46 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences

Long post full of worry regarding ability to play in a musical considering lack
of sight-reading skills and insane key signatures.

[BTW, those listed didn't seem that bad to me.  Lots of times you get 6 or 7
sharps in musical scores for bass.]

I've sent longer e-mail, but I want to encourage anybody who gets a chance at
playing a musical to jump at it.  You will learn a lot of:

music theory with a real practical application
musical styles (depending on the production, of course)

You'll be amazed at how quickly you can read when you have to, and there's a
whole band there doing the same thing (and probably several who can't read as
well as they should be able to either).

If worst comes to worst, you can always improvise around what's there (well,
again depending on the song) to come up with something that will fit.  [Note:
You do *not* change your improv after one week previous to opening.]
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Subject: Re: request for tab
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:56:35 GMT

jchilber@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jeffrey Allen Chilberto) writes:

>Hello out there!

>I'm looking for some tab.  If anyone can
>give me a hand I would appreciate it.

Umm, what's a tab??

Also, are there any suggestions for books, or videos that teach good bass
playing techniques for a variety of styles? I'm a self taught player who feels
like I'm in a rut and want to unlearn my bad habits while improving my skills.

Thanks

Skip
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From: mw4u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Pierce Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: IBANEZ ES Series?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:15:21 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me a little something
about an Ibanez ES Series bass.  I am thinking about buying a used one
for $100 and want to know if it is worth it.  Any info would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks, Matt

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From: webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Slap Style
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:44:49 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Sep28.213843.22786@qualcomm.com> dweber@crow.qualcomm.com (Dan Weber) writes:
>
>   I need some help learning the slap style of playing: I recently
>  Joined a band and there are some parts that require slap bass; the
>  problem is that I play an old Gibson EB-0 bass with fairly high action
>  and narrow neck width making my attempts at slapping very poor sounding.
>  Are some basses better suited at getting a good slap tone? Is a wider
>  neck better (easier to hit the strings without hitting anonther)?
>  If I can't get it to sound right they've been talking about letting the 
>  computer do the slap parts for me! (How humiliating!)
>
>  Frustrated and not wanting to buy another bass,
>
>  Dano
>
>  dweber@crow.qualcomm.com

	Slapping takes a while to develop, don't get frustrated if
you can't do it immediately, it took me a long while.  I recommend a book
called "Slap it" by Tony Oppenheim.  Its an orange book published by
Theodore Presser Music Company out of Bryn Mawer, PA.  It comes with
about 40 pages of exercises and two records.  Great investment.  Or,
buy the videotape by Stuart Hamm called Slap, and Tap on the Electric Bass.
Good luck,  If anyone has any technical problems, Email your problems
to me, Ill be more than happy to answer them.  Good Luck

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From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Slap Style
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:26:03 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Haw Juin Lin (hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Hey.....does anybody like Primus around here?
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From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: request for tab
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 05:03:40 GMT

There's an explanation of TAB in answer #4 in the FAQ, a list of TAB sites
in answer #6, and a list of introductory books in question 8 (+/- 1).

It was posted last on 10-1, you should be able to find it using your
newsreader. (If you can, search backward on "FAQ".) If for some reason
you can't do this, tell me about it and I'll see what I can do.

-- 
Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist
indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist
conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!
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From: scrxlt@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (DAVID OLSZEWSKI)
Subject: REDUCED PRICES on Band Equip.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date:  2 Oct 1992 08:58 EST  

	**** MISCELLANEOUS BAND EQUIPMENT FOR SALE ****

   		 ALL PRICES WERE JUST LOWERED
------------------------------------------------------------------------

	Yamaha APX SPL I	Acoustic Electric Guitar
	Burnt Orange w/ Flamed Maple Top and Hard Shell Case.
	was $ 275.00 	.... 	now $ 225.00

	Yamaha APX9-12		Acoustic Electric 12 String
	Black w/ Stereo Inputs and Hard Shell Case.
	was $ 475.00 	.... 	now $ 425.00

	Peavey Odyssey		Electric Guitar
	Les Paul Style,  Red w/ Maple Top,  24 Frets,  2 Humbuckers
	Gold Hardware and Hard Shell Case.
	was $ 325.00 	.... 	now $ 275.00

	Peavey Backstage Chorus 208	25 Watt Practice Amp
	2-8 inch Speakers,  Clean and Distortion Channels,  Reverb
	and Chorus,  w/ Foot Switch.
	was $ 225.00 	.... 	now $ 175.00

	All items are like new and in the best possible condition.  
		VERY SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY PLEASE.

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: dweber@crow.qualcomm.com (Dan Weber)
Subject: Slap Style 
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:38:43 GMT


   I need some help learning the slap style of playing: I recently
  Joined a band and there are some parts that require slap bass; the
  problem is that I play an old Gibson EB-0 bass with fairly high action
  and narrow neck width making my attempts at slapping very poor sounding.
  Are some basses better suited at getting a good slap tone? Is a wider
  neck better (easier to hit the strings without hitting anonther)?
  If I can't get it to sound right they've been talking about letting the 
  computer do the slap parts for me! (How humiliating!)

  Frustrated and not wanting to buy another bass,

  Dano

  dweber@crow.qualcomm.com
From: kimple@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Slap Style
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:08:52 -0600
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <718359847.21505@minster.york.ac.uk>, aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> Haw Juin Lin (hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
> : Les Rules. 
> 
> But he doesn't really slap per se, more strums hard
> (or at least that is what it sounds like to me and it
>  is the only way I can emulate the sound)
> 
> 	Aaron Turner	aaron@minster.york.ac.uk


He does both - watch him if you get the chance. Unbeleivable, he makes it look
like he's not doing a thing if you watch his face.

jd
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: friedman@col.hp.com (John Friedman)
Subject: Re: Slap Style
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:03:04 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Hey.....does anybody like Primus around here?

Primus SUCKS!!!

John
friedman@col.hp.com

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: d91-jal@melns.nada.kth.se (Johan Almen)
Subject: FTP sites with bass tabs
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:40:05 GMT

Anyone out there who knows about an FTP-site with bass tabs?
I'm particularly interested in tabs from Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, 
Temple of the Dog, and the like....



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email: d91-jal@dront.nada.kth.se  I		   - Pearl Jam -
From: doug@baton.ccit.arizona.edu (Doug Wellington)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: 1929 Kaye pricing and SVT wanted...
Keywords: 1929 Kaye  Ampeg SVT
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:05:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

I'm in the market for an upright bass.  A local store has a 1929
Kaye (at least that is what the label inside it says...) and he
wants $2500 for it.  That seems awful steep, so I thought I'd
ask what all you gurus think...

And I recently got to play my Hamer 12 string bass through an AMPEG
SVT and 8x10.  I have finally found the right amp for this thing!!!
Anybody got an SVT up for sale?  (Yeah, I know, the shipping will
cost me as much as the head... :-)   I still want one! )

Thanks!
-Doug
From: scrxlt@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (DAVID OLSZEWSKI)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Misc Band Equipment Forsale
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:54:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	**** MISCELLANEOUS BAND EQUIPMENT FOR SALE ****

	Yamaha APX SPL I	Acoustic Electric Guitar
	Burnt Orange w/ Flamed Maple Top and Hard Shell Case.
	$ 275.00 o.b.o.

	Yamaha APX9-12		Acoustic Electric 12 String
	Black w/ Stereo Inputs and Hard Shell Case.
	$ 475.00 o.b.o.

	Zoom 9000		Portable Effects Processor
	Comes with Foot Pedal.
	$ 250.00 o.b.o.

	Peavey Odyssey		Electric Guitar
	Les Paul Style,  Red w/ Maple Top,  24 Frets,  2 Humbuckers
	Gold Hardware and Hard Shell Case.
	$ 325.00 o.b.o.

	Peavey Backstage Chorus 208	25 Watt Practice Amp
	2-8 inch Speakers,  Clean and Distortion Channels,  Reverb
	and Chorus,  w/ Foot Switch.
	$ 225.00 o.b.o.

		All items are like new and in the best possible condition.  
	Serious inquiries only please.  I'll pay for 50 to 100% of shipping 
	costs if sale is made immediatley.

	NONE OF THIS EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN ABUSED .... IT HAS HARDLY BEEN USED
	*******************************************************************


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From: rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
Subject: Re: J-Bass vs P-Bass pickups
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:52:17 GMT
Organization: Doc Porter's Thrills Show

In <92274.105647KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu (Karl Nordstrom) writes:

>Whats the difference between the Fender Jazz's and the Precision's pickups?
>How do they work?  I think the Jazz bass has a bar pickup and the P-bass has
>poles.  Obviously, the Jazz bass has a second pickup closer to the bridge and
>that would account for some of the higher sound that the Jazz has.  Is the
>Jazz's pickup by the neck in the same position as the precisions pickup?
>I like the sound of the Jazz bass, the wider spectrum of harmonics that it
>has (I think).  Can I get this sound on my P-bass?  Would I have to add a
>Jazz bass pick or two?


The Jazz's pickups are humbuckers (two coil) as opposed to the
twin single coil pickups on the P-bass. Both J and P style p[ickups
use polepieces. The Jazz "neck" pickup is roughly in the same position
as the pickups on a P-bass. Many people like the sound of the P and J
pickups in combonation. (P in front--as normal--J in back) I like stock
P-basses and J-basses, and the combo also. Each bass is different. 
With Fenders you gotta evaluate each bass individually, since the
quality varies considerably from instrument to instrument. I've fooled
a few people into thinking the sound of my totally stock P-bass was 
actually a Jazz. 

I think the answer is to own as many basses as possible.


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From: hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haw Juin Lin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Slap Style
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:38:57 GMT
	<1992Oct1.200853.24661@qualcomm.com>
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hey.....does anybody like Primus around here?
From: kimple@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Speaker question, sound good?
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:30:29 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

OIkay, here's my deal...

I'm looking for some drivers for an empty cabinet I have. It's a 2-10".
I'd prefer to use this to my Peavey combo 300(easier to carry, pack, etc.)
Anyways, I was plannig on using 2 10" "subwoofers" or the like. Something like
what they're using in those car/truck speaker boxes.

So, before I splurge, what do you think? Will it work, sound good?

jd
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: mcampbel@cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell )
Subject: Drummer seeks advice from bassists
Organization: University of Central Florida
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:16:46 GMT

Pardon if this format of this is a little off - vi for some reason has 
freaked out.

I'm a drummer, and while not extremely 'over the top', I'm pretty darn good,
and pride myself on my time and reading ability.

Recently though, I've had the urge to take on something more tonal, and I've
always wanted to play bass.  I'm going to have the opportunity soon to 
devote some time to whatever I choose, and would like some advice from you
all.

Since I read drum music already, rhythms are no problem whatsoever.  The 
different note *values* (as opposed to times) are a little foreign to me, 
so I would need to work on that.  I realize that, and am prepared to
practice practice practice.

What I need to know is this:

1) Do you suggest I drop this altogether?  I've heard from people that I should
start with guitar, then move to bass.  I don't really want to do this, since
the capital outlay for guit-gear would be lost, (or at least a lot of it), when
I sold the stuff and re-upped for bass.  Plus, many people feel us drummers
are a stupid lot, and would never pick up "musical" side of it anyway.  (I'm
not one of those people. <g>)

2) If I decide to go with this, should I get a book and start plinking, or is
an instructor the way to go?  

3) What should I do about eqpt?  Should I go whole hog and get a nice bass rig,
or something that "will do" on which to learn.  I favor the latter, again for
monetary reasons.  Plus, if I find out I don't like it, or can't devote enough
time to it, I wouldn't be out as much.

Any advice for beginners and pre-beginners is more than welcome.  Email or
general advice useful to all posted would be wonderful.

I sure do respect what you people do, and appreciate your comments.  Please 
feel free to cover any bases I may have left out.  (I'm sure there are plenty)

Rhythmically,

Mike

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill)
Subject: Re: FTP sites with bass tabs
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:44:03 GMT

	I tried mailing this to the sender but our university's
mailing system was acting wierd so...

To: d91-jal@melns.nada.kth.se
Subject: Re: FTP sites with bass tabs

	There is an ftp site for bass at    kappa.rice.edu
In the directory pub/bass/tab/songs.  I don't know if there are any
Pearl Jam or Soundgarden songs, but I know that there are some good
tabs there.  Also there there are back issues of THE BOTTOM LINE, which
is a bass magazine sent via EMail.  There is info there about 
subscriptions also.  Its a good publication.  If you find any other
ftp bass sites please let me know.  Thanks,
					Webb

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To: d91-jal@melns.nada.kth.se
Subject: Re: FTP sites with bass tabs
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Organization: University of Delaware
Cc: 
Bcc: 

	There is an ftp site for bass at    kappa.rice.edu
In the directory pub/bass/tab/songs.  I don't know if there are any
Pearl Jam or Soundgarden songs, but I know that there are some good
tabs there.  Also there there are back issues of THE BOTTOM LINE, which
is a bass magazine sent via EMail.  There is info there about 
subscriptions also.  Its a good publication.  If you find any other
ftp bass sites please let me know.  Thanks,
					Webb

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From: jhaukioj@sara.cc.utu.fi (Jussi Haukioja)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Amp info?
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:56:59 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

I'm planning to buy a new amp in a couple of weeks, but haven't made up my mind
yet on which one to get. I'm considering buying either a Hartke or a Trace
Elliot combo (maybe a Dynacord wouldn't be out of the question, either). I was
wondering if anyone had any experience on using one of these with an upright
and an electric plugged in at the same time. I'm doing theater gigs using both
basses, and changing the settings while you switch basses doesn't look good on
stage (and results in a worse tone quality, since you can't check the sound).
I've been using a separate eq on the electric for this, but the best solution
would be an amp with built-in eq for the other input (or for both). I
understand that both Hartke and Trace Elliot have combos with this kind of
equipment. 
If anyone has done what I've described above with either of these amps (or some
other one in the same price range), I'd be very grateful for  the information.

Thank you,

Jussi 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: LA BELLA
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 30 SEP 92 09:26:22    


In article <1992Sep29.182233.29643@webo.dg.com>, labuski@emavr01.rtp.dg.com (Frank Labuski) writes...
>Has anyone ever heard of La Bella bass strings?  I've got a Fender
>P-bass and I was told once that these strings were made for Fenders, but
>I have had trouble finding them.  I bought a set a couple of years ago
>and liked them a lot but haven't been able to find them since.  Does
>anyone know if they still make them??  Thanks!!

La Bella is very much in business.  In addition to the usual array of guitar
and bass strings, they make upright bass strings and the strings sold under
the Steinberger brand (in fact, they encouraged Ned Steinberger when no guitar
company would give him the time of day).

They have recently started marketing the old flatwounds that used to be
supplied on Fenders as the "James Jamerson" set.  Knowing La Bella, they
probably have been making that set all along.

The actual name of the company is E.O. Mairi and Sons (sp?).

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Caveat Emptor
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  5 OCT 92 09:58:33    


Just curious as to why I see so many posts of the following type:

"I've just bought a Musicsquat XLZ-100 amp for $4000 and wondering if I got a
good deal?  Is this amp a piece of cow dung or what?"

Why not ask *before* you lay down the cash?


					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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From: harden@acsu.buffalo.edu (Alex Harden)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: hartke amps
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:51:13 GMT
Organization: UB

hi!  i just bought a hartke 2000 amplifier [not a combo] and would like 
feedback concerning it.

** please send all responses to me via MAIL, not through this newsgroup.
   i'm pretty sure the vast majority do not own hartkes.  **

things i would like to hear:

- reliability -- has your hartke ever been serviced?
- good settings for the tube and solid state knobs
- usefulness of compression [i'm not used to it and would like to know more
	about it]
- things you like or dislike about your hartke
- friendliness of the company [i've heard they're very lenient and friendly 
	concerning warranties]

thanks!
-- 
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harden@acsu.buffalo.edu--  fantasies; most of us just dream about the things
v409epk3@ubvms.bitnet----  we'd like to be" - peart "losing it" 1982
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