HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Seyahat sirketi ile sorun
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:30:40 GMT

Bundan bir kac ay once bir SCT okuyucusu kendisine sorun cikaran bir
seyahat acentasindan soz etmisti.

SCT'ye ulasamayan bir arkadasinda sanirim ayni acentadan sorunu var.
Arkadasim bu acentanin sahibinde uzlasmaya yarar olur diye, SCT'ye
yazi yazan bu kisiyi ile iliski kurmak istemekte.

Bu yaziyi yazan arkadastan bu adrese bir yazi gondermesini rica edecegim.
Bu arkadas SCT'ye bakmiyor olabilir, bu durum icinde konuyu hatirlayan
baska arkadaslardan da bana yazi yazmalarini rica edecegim.

Ilginiz icin simdiden sagolun!

AToprak

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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: 'Tri*'alive.
Date: 12 Aug 92 02:19:17 GMT





<9208121357.AA03682@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com>
c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)

>1 MB in one posting? Ouch. That's two weeks' worth of Happyface's postings...

'Tri*'alive.

>Speaking of which...
>Yo, how come the crosspostings to soc.culture.jewish stopped again?

In the midst of oatmeal days, I find within your head an irresistible
affirmation.


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.iranian
From: errol@leland.Stanford.EDU (errol craig)
Subject: Turkish language tutor
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:21:49 GMT


Caveat: This post contains no political materal, no quoted text
no insults so you may just want to kill it and go on to the
next article.  

Many apologies.



One more chance to kill :-)



I will be at Oxford (UK) next academic year starting in September.  I
would be interested in hiring a tutor, preferably a student, to teach
me some Turkish.  If you are interested , know someone, or could point
me in the proper direction I would be grateful.  He/she need not
necessarily be located at Oxford, but within commuting distance.
Again thanks.

Errol
errol@leland.stanford.edu
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: Demonstration in front of the White House
Date: 12 Aug 92 01:46:05 GMT





sclera@milori.ccit.arizona.edu
<1992Aug11.111254.1@milori.ccit.arizona.edu>

>It appears to me, then, that we need to either give up on places
>like Bosnia, Armenia, and so on, or take them all on, evict the
>current governments, reorganize the local societies, and shot all
>reactionaries.  Except of course for our own beloved Mutlu. 8*}

So you remembered that I bought my insurance from you.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: da26@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Deniz  Akkus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: What kind of people are Turks?
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:48:34 GMT
Reply-To: da26@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Deniz  Akkus)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <VVIRRANK.92Aug17153358@klaava.Helsinki.FI> vvirrank@cc.Helsinki.FI (Ville Virrankoski) writes:
>
>After reading couple of articles written by H.B.Mutlu and also
>bunch of answers to them and again Mutlu's answers etc.
>I got a clear opinion what kind of people Turks are.
>

In a country of roughly 60 million people, there are all sorts. 
Hasan B. Mutlu is a rather interesting character.  I don't think he
represents Turkey, but I don't think any one of us do. 

>
>(Personally, I could some day visit ancient Constantinopolis but I hope
>as little contacts as possible with modern Istambul.)

Your biases are showing.  If what a Turk writes can reflect badly on
all of Turkey, your article hardly gives a glowing feeling of
satisfaction about your country of origin.  

>V.Virrankoski

Deniz Akkus
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From: mikie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Michael C. Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Mutlu, Mutlu, Mutlu....
Date: 18 Aug 1992 00:11:40 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu


Mutlu, I have a few questions:


    1.  Where do you live (Which city)
    2.  How do you look like
    3.  Is it Hassan or Hasan?
    4.  Are you a US Citizen, if so, are you registered to vote?
    5.  Do you have any credit cards?
    6.  Do you subscribe to any magazine, if so, which ones?
    7.  Where were you born?

    Just by answering a few questions, you will make our job much
    easier.  By the way, you could make our job very easy by
    answering this simple question:

	  WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS?

    If anyone has any information, please post it here.

    See ya soon, 'Multu' :)

    enmale otrbla upeecsema















    P.S.:  Remember Talaat? :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: Where Does 'Tam*'s Frustration Stem From? Nightmarish Threat.
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:20:18 GMT

Geez man, this is Mutlu conversation is so popular that some netters are
generating .sig files based on it:

^^^^^---------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^ Attention !!!!!!!  Be aware of the following new viruses:            ^
^ Konecni     virus: Similar symptoms with Mutlu virus                 ^
^ Shopov      virus: Repeats himself, and at the end says "No Regards" ^
^ Sommarskong virus: Doesn't do anything, but you can't get rid of it  ^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

These people seriously need to find a life! Any life!!

smittie
-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
GEnie, MCI, AOL:Smittie | If all of us were as smart as we think we are the
smittie@beach.csulb.edu |  current world problems would be yesterday's news.
________________________|___________________________________________________
From: slbxk@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Friendship Club
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:44:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Aug19.154426.58270
Organization: Utah State University



                   FRIENDSHIP CLUB

                   From the Editor
           -------------------------------


Dear friends,

     We are all far away from home, home town, home city, home
motherland. We each have the same dreams, dreaming about pursuing
a higher degree in education, accomplishing a wonderful task in
our own life, getting a satisfying job, climbing to a higher
class in life... But we feel lonely, terribly lonely, we need
friends, and love. Loneliness is like a killer, threatening us
every friday evening, saturday, sunday, holidays, even in daily
life. Why not let us gather together to get rid of loneliness, to
find ourselves companionship, to enjoy love or friendship! Let's
provide ourselves to the society and meet many people and choose
the one we want to be with, the one we love, but we have not met
yet.

     Good luck to all of you, dear friends!



                                       Editor


     P.S.

     For APPLICATION FORM please write to:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          --------------------------------------------
          |       FRIENDSHIP CLUB MEMBERSHIP         |
          |                                          |
          |               USU Box 1621               |
          |       Logan, UT   84322-0199  U.S.A.     |
          --------------------------------------------

     Or send inquiring by E-mail.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.jewish
From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Subject: Re: To The Greek Orthodox Church, Jews Were Absolute Filth.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:14:21 GMT

hbm@ddsw1.mcs.com (Hasan B. Mutlu) writes:



><Bt55B3.A8M@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )

>> You have used Greek and French references in the past.  I'm asking you
>> if you speak Greek and French. Well, do you? 

>Here comes the personal part. I pray I shall never have to stand in 
>'tamtam's shoes. Why not address the substantive issues?

 I cannot read everything that you are posting.  My job is not to fight
 your propaganda.  I have better things to do.

 Now, what I'm asking you is if you read the references you are giving.
 If yes, this would mean that you speak several languages, which I doubt.
 If not, you should stop doing this.


>[16] Byzantine Empire, EJ [Encyclopaedia Judaica] IV, 1550-1552.
>     Joshua Starr, The Jews of Byzantine Empire, 4-6, 212-213.
>     Philip P. Argenti, The Religious Minorities of Chios: Jews and Roman
>     Catholics (Cambridge, 1970), 39-63.
>     Abraham Galante, Histoire des Juifs d'Istanbul depuis la prise de cetle
>     ville en 1453 jusqu'a nos jours (Istanbul, 1941-42), 39.

 Here it goes again. Have you read the above?


>Hasan B-) Mutlu


-- 
---> Panos Tamamidis
     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: sahin@usc.edu (Mahmut Sahin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: San Diego'da Turkler...
Date: 17 Aug 1992 18:24:42 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


Herkese iyigunler,

Gectigimiz Aralik ayinda Univ. of Southern California'dan master derecemi
aldim. Yaklasik bir aydir San Diego'da bir sirkette calisiyorum. San Diego'daki
Turk arkadaslarla tanismak isterim. Ilgilenenler ksahin@oscar.hns.com adresime
yazabilirler. Ayrica San Diego'daki Turk faaliyetleri (dernek vs.) hakkinda
bilgisi olanlar belirttigim adrese yazabilirse cok memnun olurum.

Simdiden tesekkurler...

Kamil Sahin

Not: Benzer bir mesaji gecenlerde TEL'e gonderdim, burda ikinci kez okuyanlar
     kusura bakmasin.

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From: hhrant@ocf.berkeley.edu (Helgge Minassian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Mutlu, on the verge of discovery
Date: 17 Aug 1992 23:42:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ocf.berkeley.edu

Mutlu, what do you know about Vicken Shant?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Subject: PKK Saldirisi
Reply-To: armagan@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:20:02 GMT

Cudi dagindan inerek gelen 300'e yakin PKK'li terorist 18 Agustos
gecesi Sirnak'a saldirdi. Saldiriya gecmeden once sehrin trafosunu
havaya ucurarak sehri karanliga gomen ve telefon hatlarini sabote ederek
dis dunya ile baglantisini kesen PPK'lilar daha sonra cesitli askeri ve
sivil resmi kuruluslara karsi mevzilenerek catismaya basladi. Sabaha
kadar suren catismalarin sonunda bir kisim PPK'lilar daglara cekilirken
diger kismi ise Sirnak'ta yandaslarinin bulunduklari evlere sigindilar.
Gun isiginin agarmasi ile sehre giren askeri birlikler sabah 6'da ilan
edilen sokaga cikma yasagi ile birlikte cember harekeatina basladilar.
Catismlarin dun aksam esasi ile yer yer devam ettigi soyleniyor.


----------------------------------------------------------------
 ARMAGAN A. OZDINC
 Paramax Systems, Valley Forge Labs, Research and Development
________________________________________________________________
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Further Exposing 'Zap* The Criminal' Of IBM: A Crook In Action.
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:09:07 GMT





cosar@MICRO.CS.UMN.EDU
>  I can apologize publicly, Zap*, and Allah would punish you


'Zap* the Criminal' of IBM and the ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists. Amazing
creatures.


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
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From: zaphiri@ZORO.CIS.TEMPLE.EDU (Zaphiris Christidis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Illegal activities of alatolia.mn.org and Ahmet Cosar (II)
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:10:07 GMT
Organization: Temple University, CIS Dept.

In article <1992Aug12.191612.13922@news2.cis.umn.edu>, cosar@micro.cs.umn.edu
(Ahmet Cosar the Forger) is trying to write:
>
> It is "watson.ibm.com", I guess you don't even know your e-mail
> address, or are you someone forging Zaphiris' messages?

No, Cosar, you know it as good as I do, as you had forged it.  But
you don't want to talk about that, do you? Well, I have a surprise for
you. You are a cheap shot crook Cosar, and I have logs even from
your machine to prove it. Here is your pc  "anatolia" talking to
you Cosar, and does not know how to lie, like you do:

# anatolia anatolia  (8/8-13:41:29,12635,0) OK (startup)
# anatolia anatolia  (8/8-13:41:29,12635,0) REMOTE REQUESTED
# (anatolia!0542.DAT -- > tcnet!D.anatoli0542 (uucp))
#
# uucp anatolia  (8/8-13:43:18,12647,0) uucp XQT (PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lbin
# LOGNAME=uucp UU_MACHINE=anatolia UU_USER=uucp export UU_MACHINE UU_USER
# PATH; rmail alt-binaries-pictures-erotica@ucbvax.berkeley.edu)

Are you feeling nauseous? There is more, but I will keep it for later, and
upon request. Now, here is your Host computer 'kksys' Cosar, singing to you
a nice melody. The melody of truth Cosar. Enjoy the music.

# 08/08/92 13:43:51: [m0mGvl1-0003EiC] delivered
# alt-binaries-pictures-erotica@ucbvax.berkeley.edu using uux for
# atc :: ucbvax.berkeley.edu!alt-binaries-pictures-erotica

Here is your news poster Computer 'ucbvax.berkeley.edu' Cosar, whispering
silly nothings in your ear, but never-the-less the truth. Read them and weep.

# Aug  8 12:06:36 ucbvax sendmail[16766]: AA16766
#         message-id=<1234aD2r5678@zoro.cis.temple>
# Aug  8 12:06:36 ucbvax sendmail[16766]: AA16766:
#         from=<kksys!zoro.cis.temple!zaphiris

And here is the 'baby' you have delivered Cosar, as ugly as your intentions.
Your masterpiece FORGERY. Look at the headers, Cosar, cause it will be
shipped away, if you don't apologize publicly for your creation.

# From: zaphiri@WATSON.IBM.COM (zaphiridis crissy)
# Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
# Subject: FTP site ----> zoro.cis.temple
# Message-ID: <1234aD2r5678@zoro.cis.temple>
# Date: 8 Aug 92 20:27:51 GMT
# Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
# Organization: crissy' gif service
# Lines: 14

I know, it brings a lump to your throat.

Cosar, you have until Friday morning to issue a public apology. It is going
to be too late for you on Monday morning.

--
Zaphiris Christidis
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.mideast
From: azmak@bnr.ca (Okan Azmak)
Subject: Re: Dirty tricks and (some) Turks
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 01:54:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.214318.11720@microsoft.com> marcmil@microsoft.com (Marc Milanini) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.163811.19331@hasler.ascom.ch> kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch writes:
>>Why for once will a Turk not address what is under discussion, is it
>>that impossible?, rather than just insult the person he doesn't like
>>the views/opinions of.
>>
>>Does HBM (and the author of the article i'm responding too) really represent
>>the honest,typical, middle of the road Turk's view/attitude. I don't think so
>>but we have very little evidence to the contrary.
>>
>>kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
>
>Although some of the Turks posting on Usenet are obnoxious little creeps,
>we have to keep a good image of the Turks in general. The two Turks I
>have met and talked with extensively are nice guys. In particular,
>one of them has access to Usenet and has a very low opinion of Hasan
>Mutlu.
>
>... Anyone with half a brain and no kill-file gets
>sick with Mutlu's huge posting of doctored material. 
...
>
>We have to counter this threat by presenting real arguments. That's
>what Davidian (in spite of his hot temper), Milson, Sternlight and
>others are doing or have done. Secondarily, since the "authors" seem
>so deprived of any sense of humor (how could it be otherwise ?),
>a bit of mockery is not out of place.
>


I haven't followed the Armenian genocide and Muslim genocide claims and
counter-claims in about two years, but during the year and a half prior
to that it was easy to see that neither side is willing to change - or
even question - their point of view.  Each side believes their resources
are completely factual, while resources of the other side are for the most
part doctored to fit their arguments.  It's been 75+ years since the
alleged atrocities, and it used to baffle me that David Davidian or Hasan
Mutlu, neither of whom (I am guessing) has lived in the far Eastern Turkey,
and wouldn't even want to, given the harsh economic realities of the region,
would be so adamant about that piece of land, until "ethnic cleansing" in 
Bosnia-Herzegovina started.  As far as I am concerned both of these people 
belong together, and need each other in their attempts to legitimize their 
"political" and "nationalistic" stances.  They also belong with that subset 
of the race that generated KKK, SS and the like.  

I have a huge kill file for Mutlu, Davidian and a couple of other people.
Sad part is, aside from news headlines and occasional soccer discussions, I'm 
afraid there is very little "cultural" about this alleged "culture" group.
And, the few-and-far-in-between attempts have simply become irrelevant in
this flame and propaganda atmosphere.

Cheers,

>=---K8>>@@@@@@@@ Marc Milanini @@@@ marcmil@microsoft.com @@@@%%

..Okan Azmak
From: da26@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Deniz  Akkus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Testing
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:37:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug14.163704.29720
Organization: Columbia University


Testing testing testing

Deniz Akkus da26@cunixb.columbia.edu
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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: What about Greeks?? (was Re: What kind of people are Turks?)
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


>From: marchi@gold.cchem.berkeley.edu (Massimo Marchi)
>I still have to read one posting by a Greek criticizing the official
>Greek government position on the "Macedonia" issue. Isn't it
>amazing how you

  I am not one who would hesitate to critisize the Greek government, esp
one led by Mr. Mitsotakis. In this case, however, the position of the
Greek gvmt also happens to be a position supported by historical facts
and the will of the Greek people.

 You think we are nationalists on this board? There are some greek
morons out there who are talking about reviving the Byzantine empire of
Iustinianus the Great, from Egypt to the Dunau to Malta to the Caucasus.
We are talking real nuts; greek equivalents of Hasan Mutlu.
 Most Greeks, on the other hand, want none of this nonsense. All we want
is respect for the existing borders of the Hellenic republic and
respect for the U.N. resolutions on the Cyprus issue.

 The Greek government is not using military means to enforce it's
position on Macedonia. They are, correctly, doing everything possible
through diplomatic means to maintain the integrity of the Macedonian
cultural heritage. Nothing wrong about that; I wish all conflicts were
solved that way. The Greek-americans in this side of the atlantic are
also trying hard. Our 50,000 strong demonstration on May 31 was well
received; prominent politicians from the Republican party were all there
to show their support. The democratic party also showed us their support
during our demonstration outside the Dem Nat. Convention. We are doing
everything in our rights as American citizens to protect our ancestral
heritage. Nothing wrong with that.
                                                                                                                           
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: What kind of people are 'Finos?'
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:11:33 GMT





<1992Aug17.163811.19331@hasler.ascom.ch>
kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)

>Why for once will a Turk not address what is under discussion, is it
>that impossible?, 

Well, still anxiously awaiting...

Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill
Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). 

p. 202 (first and second paragraphs).

But, what is there to prevent this?

p. 15 (second paragraph).

???

p. 109 (second paragraph).

???

p. 203 (second paragraph).

???

p. 204 (first paragraph).

???

p. 218 (first and second paragraphs).

???

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)