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From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Lane Splitting: a new twist
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:32:11 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles

dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:


>  Just another data point in the Great California Whitelining Discussion.
>If you're threading cages and one of them decides to hit you, it's
>your fault.
>  I was doing the careful whitelining bit, barely over ambient speed
>in stop-and-creep traffic, down 880 in Berkeley.  A space opens up to
>my right, and the guy to my left decides he doesn't have time for a
>signal before taking that spot.  So he broadsides me, and I go for a
>low speed face slide on the freeway.  My bike throws itself to the ground
>in a fit, spitting out bike parts, and I miss three Christmas parties.
>  The cops had to think about it for nearly a month, but they've decided
>it was my fault.  They didn't hand me a ticket, but it's me who pays
>for Mr. Excitable's right door.

If you haven't left out something that changes the complexion of this
totally, I'd get an <gasp> attorney and fight this in court. If this
guy didn't signal and look, it's an unsafe lane change. Where you can
run into trouble is if you were too, ie: you really were on the line
or weaving, in the eyes of the cops. 

There's more here than his door. There's your bike and personal
suffering. 

I can hardly believe that I'm the one that's saying this, but you
need to fight for your rights in court. I hate lawyers, and the way
that our society is so sue happy, but being a nice guy didn't pay off
for me in my last accident. The bimbo that cut me off on the freeway
two days after I bought the Concours cost me months of physical pain,
hospital costs and time when I couldn't ride my new pride and joy.
They'll screw you if you give them a chance.

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From: charlie@askinc.ASK.COM (Charlie Adams)
Subject: Cycle City - Mountain View
Followup-To: Maint. In Mountain View
Keywords: Cheap Repairs
Reply-To: charlie@askinc.ask.COM (Charlie Adams)
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:18:38 GMT

Thank you Jim, Dana and the others who so quickly responded to my
question for reasonable and trustworty repairs in my new home area.
I rode my bike here from New Jersey, and 4,000 miles of cold and rain
have taken their toll on man and machine.  I'll live, but the bike needs
some work.  All of the respondents rec. Cycle city at 890 San Antonio Rd.
Better believe that's where I'll be taking my Kaw.

Thanks again... Good watching out.

Charlie



Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: c60c-3gi@web-3c.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Subject: this morning...
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:57:43 GMT


well, this morning, I got up at 7:30, ate and got ready to go to school.
I went down to the out door parking lot where my EX500 is at.  Its
pretty cold, not that cold.  I take both of my Krypto's off and disarm
the alarm.  (Im in Oakland :)  Put the key in the ignition, turn it to
the ON position.  I made sure the gear is in neutral, and I push the
starter button.

here is where trouble began.  I pushed the started button and nothing
happened, absolutely nothing.  Not even the clicking sound the starter
makes when the battery is low.  Simply nothing happened, all the lights
that was on stayed the same broughtness, so the load on the battery wasn't
too high or something.  Besides, the battery is onyl 3 month old, and
I had just charged it last week.

So, Im late to class.  I decided to drive.  When I could have parked for
free since have a parking permit for my bike, I have to pay buck fifty.
Fine, I can handle that.  I come home after class, at 10:00 AM.  By this
time, its much warmer, but not THAT warm.  And I decided to try the
bike again.  First attempted, same thing.  Nothing.  Second attempt, 
nothing.  Then my roommate comes trotting along with his problem, he
tells me the battery on his scooter is dead.  He tells me he hadn't
trouched his scooter since christmas, so I laughed in his face :)  well,
not really, I told him he can use my charger.  anyway, back to the point.
While we are talking, I was preesing the started button couple hundred million
times, because I was starting to get pretty pissed.  then finally, the 
started just started turning over like nothing was wrong, and the bike
started.

what happned?  I don't think the temperture was cold enough to make the
battery performance degrade so much that it won't start.  Besides, I've
been starting my bike in the same weather since last week when I charged
the bike.  And the puzzling part is, I don't think it was low battery
since it just started after couple hundread million tries.

so what happened?  any ideas?

I know the answer is some stupid dumb thing I did wrong, and Im not
looking at this mystery right. :(

---Masa Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"I think its time to change major"
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Shift lever question
From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:17:01 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Jonah Scheib (cecil@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>  On my Yamaha 650 Special, the left foot shift lever attaches to
>  the shifting mechanism by fitting over a grooved post; i.e., there
>  are "teeth" on the outside of a rod that goes into the engine and
>  on the inside of a circular hole at the base of the shift lever.

Um.  These are called "splines."  FYI.  :-)

>  Unfortunately, the teeth have worn somewhat, and now the shift lever
>  slips instead of catching, even when the tightening/retaining bolt and
>  nut are cranked all the way down (to the point of stripping).  So I
>  can't shift, making riding an interesting experience.  Plus, I don't
>  get great mileage going 65 mph in 1st gear :-), as if my '79 beater 
>  could do that anyway.

>  I would greatly appreciate suggestions on how to remedy this problem
>  short of a major dismanting of the motorcycle to replace the post that
>  is attached to the shifting mechanism.  I've already tried shims of
>  aluminum foil, aluminum can (ok, so I've read _Zen etc._, so sue me),
>  and paper clip (inserted the "long" ways).  The first two were too
>  thin or too slippery and didn't help; the last was too great in 
>  circumference to fit.

Three alternatives:

1) Drill and safety-wire.  I've done it, and it's a bear; that's case-
hardened steel and will eat drill bits like chocolate shavings.

2) Get yourself a threader kit and thread the splined shaft, then
Helecoil and thread the lever.

3) Weld that sucker on.  :-)

I'm sure others will tell me what's wrong with these ideas, and/or
offer others.

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From: landon@Apple.COM (Landon Dyer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Winter Glove Report
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:48:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1993Jan22.024238.2548@kpc.com>, hollasch@kpc.com (Steve Hollasch) writes:
> c60c-3gi@web-3d.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:
>     I've been wrestling with winter gloves for some time now.

  i picked up a big pair of goretex over-mittens at REI just
prior to the recent Inundation.  70mph+ winds will drive small
amounts of water through them and onto the leather gloves, but
otherwise they worked great (on the days i remembered to wear
them...).  they were about twelve bucks.

  my santa-cruz mountain friends are hoping i won't have to
use them again in the near future... :-(

-- 

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not the views of apple computer
From: delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: San Francisco's first scooterjacking
Date: 23 Jan 93 10:05:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

While we are on the topic. I often ride through so-called "bad" areas of
the city late at night. Occasionally, when I thought a mugging/kidnap/harassmentthreat was even remotely potentially in the wings (usually sexual
harrasment stuff), I have just said the hell with the red light and took off.
These weren't actual attacks, or even attempted ones. I usually don't wait
that long, if it seems even remotely possible, i am out of there.

My question: Has anyone ever been caught by a cop running a read light for
this reason? Did the cop accept it as a reason not to write a ticket

I know that given ny safety vs. a ticket, i will take the ticket everytime,
I'm just wondering if cops do ever consider what some of us have to face
out there....


-- 
Lisa DeLorme                            
delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
                    Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)
From: alpha@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Alpha Schram)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: First Bike Opinions
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:43:36 GMT
Organization: Stanford University Amateur Radio Club, California USA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: w6yx.stanford.edu

In article <28248@sybase.sybase.com> leighann@quetzal.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
>In article <1993Jan16.031623.22785@netcom.com>, thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) writes:
>|> MSF: take the damn course.  They start you from 0, and have you
>|> riding over 4"x4"s in 3 4-hour sessions.
>
>Sniffle!  We never got to ride over 4x4s!  We only saw them in the video.  I been robbed!!!
>
>	- Leigh Ann
>
Huzzah!  I'll be riding over them 4x4's This Saturday!!!!! 

(We did the stompontherearbrakeandskid stuff last Saturday.  Too much fun...)

Alpha


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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Where to find this jacket in Bay Area?
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:54:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.030752.2377@pages.com> bigdog!jon (Jon Wright) writes:
}I was looking at it, too, but found with a test ride that it rode up severly  
}enough to give me plumber's butt.  Try the Bates All-Weather.  I use it all the  
}time -- winter and summer (winter w/ raingear) every day.  It's got two  
}generous vents front and rear for flow-through, and a totally cool alternative  
}front flap that snaps so that you can ride with the main zipper partially down  
}(no, not that zipper!).  MAJOR  ventilation in the summer if you need it, and  
}it's cut with a long tail in the back to prevent you-know-what butt.  A little  
}extra cash will give you custom colors, custom sizing, and a zipper to zip  
}pants into it.  Such a deal.

Anyone know where I could find a Bates All-Weather in the bay area?
South bay preferred? Or is this one of those mail-order-only things?

I love my leather jacket for winter, but for summer it is a roaster.
I need something with major venting, and this sounds pretty good.

Thanks for any tips,
-- 
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cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
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"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
From: robin2@garnet.berkeley.edu (Robin Chung)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: San Francisco's first scooterjacking
Date: 24 Jan 1993 06:17:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Anybody for wheelie practice?  

-rob

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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Subject: Re: CBR250RR for sale...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:49:29 GMT

In article <txd.727488094@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> 
txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
>mu@terapin.com (Mu Hong Lin) writes:

>>2. Is there a blue books thing for motorcycles?

Yes, but don't ask me where you can find one.

>>If it's available, I _would_ get a CBR250RR.  This may be funny.  But

Closest thing to that is the Kawasaki EX250, also known as the
baby Ninja. Try it, you'll like it.

>A word of advice, for your first bike, get one without a lot of
>plastic. You'll just wind up replacing it.

I beg to differ. I know an awful lot of very experienced bikers 
shelling out money for repairs to dropped bikes. Once you know
how to ride, meaning you don't let the clutch out with the
bike in gear while stopped, can shift smoothly up and down, are
able to make panic stops, etc. then you are no more likely to
crash your bike than an experienced rider. For some people this
takes an hour or so of practice, other might still be in the
learning stages after some months.

I'm NOT saying that an experienced rider is no more capable of
avoiding an accident that an inexperienced one. I'm just saying
that you aren't necessarily more likely to drop it as a novice.
An interesting idea for a survey. How many people have crashed
a bike when they had less than 1000 miles of experience but more
than 100 vs. those who did not drop a bike during that time.
I fit into the latter category. I haven't crashed yet (at 23,000 
miles and yes, it's because I'm very careful and don't push it.
Timid, in fact, describes my riding behavior very well.)

>>BTW, I think I'm a medium sized rider.  5'11", 145 pounds.

That's tall. I have legs that would fit a man 5'8" or so and
the baby Ninja is just the right size for me. You'll just have
to see if your extra 3 inches fits comfortably on the bike.
(I sure hope Clifford Weston isn't reading this.) And I am
only 5' 5.5" tall but I have proportionally long legs.

Let me know if you get serious about an EX250 and I'll warn you
about things to check. Like the fact that the original tires
are garbage and worth exactly zero dollars no matter how much
tread is left on them. You can also see my bike at a Tuesday
dinner if you are in the bay area.
-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Subject: Re: time to buy tires for the R100R
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:02:58 GMT

jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>ME88 -- should last at least twice as long, still a sticky tire (hey,
>if it's good enough for Hesh, it should be good enough for me :-).

my sentiment exactly.  you won't be disappointed.  i only 4k out of
an ME55 on the K bike, and i never tried it again.


-- 
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From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: time to buy tires for the R100R
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:13:53 GMT
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <JET.93Jan25125117@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>Looks like my rear tire (ME55 Metronic) is on its last bit of tread.
>After 4K miles, I'm only a bit surprised.  I've thought about
>replacing it with one of a few different tires (see below).  Anyone
>care to point out faults in my logic/knowledge?
>
>
>ME88 -- should last at least twice as long, still a sticky tire (hey,
>if it's good enough for Hesh, it should be good enough for me :-).

I've switched to a ME88 on the rear of my K1100-LT, same reasoning.


>Comp K -- if it's going to only last 4K or so miles, why not get
>something *really* sticky.

Mebe ... might not last 4000 miles either?

>The "other" ME55 --  I'm not sure I exactly understand the Metzler
>brochure.  It seems that there are two different types of ME55, one
>more sporty than the other.  I haven't been able to figure out which
>one I have, or why I'd want to switch.

One ME55A is a radial, one isn't (I think).  The radial is only available
in sizes like 160/60 VR 18 etc. (like the K100-RS uses with it's 4.5" wide
rear wheel.


>J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311 (DoD# 0378)


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From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Re: what is "DoD # xxxx"?
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:22:31 GMT

dboddy@pulsar.lrmsc.loral.com (Dave Boddy 5973) writes:
: In article <mu.3dyt@terapin.com> mu@terapin.com (Mu Hong Lin) writes:
: >I'm new to this group.  What is this "DoD # xxxx" thing?
: >
: >frank mu-hong lin
: >mu@terapin.com
: 
:  Read the rec.motorcycles group.  Read everything in the group.
: Read the FAQ for the group. If you ask this question in the
: rec.motorcycles group I am sure you will receive a mailbox full
: of messages.  Most of these messages will be the FAQ.
: 
: Welcome aboard!
: 

You sure they won't take your DoD# away for this? You are supposed to 
flame, not give straight answers    :-)


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RG500                                                               FZ600 R.I.P
(Norton F1) "as soon as I have the petty cash"                     CBR600 R.I.P
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Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:1542 rec.motorcycles:45208
From: frankb@sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: time to buy tires for the R100R
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:26:58 GMT
Organization: HewlettPackardSantaRosaSystmsDiv,RohnertParkCA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

J. Eric Townsend (jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov) wrote:
& 
& Looks like my rear tire (ME55 Metronic) is on its last bit of tread.
& After 4K miles, I'm only a bit surprised.  I've thought about
& replacing it with one of a few different tires (see below).  Anyone
& care to point out faults in my logic/knowledge?
& 
& The "other" ME55 --  I'm not sure I exactly understand the Metzler
& brochure.  It seems that there are two different types of ME55, one
& more sporty than the other.  I haven't been able to figure out which
& one I have, or why I'd want to switch.

The ME55s come in belted and unbelted versions.  Both may be available
in certain sizes, others you don't get a choice.  The belted versions
are supposed to last much longer, but cost a few $ more, well worth the
price from a cost per mile basis.  I don't know how traction compares.
The belted version has a B designation in the size:  120/90VB18 instead
of 120/90V18.

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Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:1556 rec.motorcycles:45283
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: this morning...
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:08:17 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In article <1993Jan25.235743.3968@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, c60c-3gi@web-3c.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:
|> 
|> I know the answer is some stupid dumb thing I did wrong, and Im not
|> looking at this mystery right. :(
|> 
|> ---Masa Karahashi
|> c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
|> "I think its time to change major"

i'd say you either (a) had the kill switch on "off" and bumped it to "on" and
then it started.  or (b) flakey starter switch.  or (c) bike wasn't really
in neutral.  if it was kinda cold, the tranny may not have gone completely
into neutral due to thicker oil.  did you see a neutral light?  even if you
did, the bike may still have not started because it thought it was in gear.
(my FZR does this.  you shift into neutral, neutral light comes on, you hit
starter, nothing. shift out of neutral, then back into neutral, starts fine.)

axel
From: dboddy@pulsar.lrmsc.loral.com (Dave Boddy 5973)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: what is "DoD # xxxx"?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:40:26 GMT
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers

In article <C1Jz5K.2yI@quadsys.com> roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
>dboddy@pulsar.lrmsc.loral.com (Dave Boddy 5973) writes:
>: In article <mu.3dyt@terapin.com> mu@terapin.com (Mu Hong Lin) writes:
>: >I'm new to this group.  What is this "DoD # xxxx" thing?
>: >
>: >frank mu-hong lin
>: >mu@terapin.com
>: 
>:  Read the rec.motorcycles group.  Read everything in the group.
>: Read the FAQ for the group. If you ask this question in the
>: rec.motorcycles group I am sure you will receive a mailbox full
>: of messages.  Most of these messages will be the FAQ.
>: 
>: Welcome aboard!
>: 
>
>You sure they won't take your DoD# away for this? You are supposed to 
>flame, not give straight answers    :-)
>
>
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>RGV250                                                              RZ350 R.I.P
>RG500                                                               FZ600 R.I.P
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>Roland Besserer          QUAD Systems, Santa Cruz             roland@quadsys.com

 He asked in ba.motorcycles...
 Let him ask in rec.motorcycles... Newbie flambee anyone ;>

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