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From: bo@yenta.alb.nm.us (Bo Farley)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Yamaha Console for sale
Keywords: for sale
Date: 26 Sep 92 23:36:43 GMT
Organization: yenta unix pc, rio rancho, nm

BRAND NEW Yamaha MC-2404 mixing console for sale. Features include:
24 input channels 4 subgroups stereo mxin outs, 4 auxillary sends, 3 band eq -
with sweepable midrange section, 8 VU meters, channel and group mutes, 100mm-
faders, insert points on all channels and subgroubs. This board is a brand new
board. We have used it only a few times and still have original packing material. will ship anywhere.....If interested please call 505-884-7483 or email to make an offer!! bo@yenta.alb.nm.us
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Does spaced omni ever really work?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:42:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.5312
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Sep28.201808.19688@news.columbia.edu> 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
>In article <5298@gold.gvg.tek.com> chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen) writes:

>>One of the things that I look for  in mic specs is the polar plots at
>>different frequencies.  I have mics that have good to very good off
>>axis response.

>So do I, but the problem I was indicating is that most manufacturers
>don't provide these.  They give you the on-axis response curve, and a 
>polar pattern taken in the midrange.  With most cardioids, no matter how
>even the on-axis response is, the off-axis response is both boomy and peaky.
>(There *are* mics that do not have this quality, but they aren't cheap).

I have a few "inexpensive" electret condensers that I use that exhibit
an almost text book off axis polar response pattern.  By text book
perfect I refer to uniformity of cardoid shape.  You are right most
manufacturers don't show of axis response.  I also have a few Sony
mis'c that do show 180 degree off axis response.  looking at that and
interperting the polar plots that I have I can see where most mic
maufacturers don't publish those specs.....Who would want to spend
big$'s on a mic who's directionality falls to 10 db below on axis at
100 Hz!  (and was only about 20 dB midband!).

>Anyone reading this group knows that I'm generally a fan of hypers for
>two-mike recordings because they have a much narrower front lobe,
> and their off-axis response is generally better than cardioid. 
>I also favor near-coincident over coincident.

I haven't tried hypers but I also favor near-coincident.

>>I am very sensitine to the off axis response,  I believe that is is
>>important in all cases.

>Anechoic environments excepted...sometimes I think that microphone
>designers forget that most recordists don't spend much time in
>such places...

>>Close micing, distance micing, recording or sound reinforcement the
>>off axis response is very important to me!

>Agreed, but you have to agree that off-axis response is *more* important
>in two-mike stereo than it is in close-miking.

With out a doubt!  I agree 100 % I think I expounded on this a bit in another
posting :-)

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
From: kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan)
Subject: Re: ECM-66 microphone
Organization: w8hd.org
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:23:46 GMT

jimh@laison.w8hd.org (Administrator) writes:

>Has anyone else experienced the apparently unavoidable problem of breath
>blasts which occur then this microphone is worn by a
>spealer/talent/announcer, who, while off-camera, looks down at a script
>and speaks virtually directly into the microphone (being worn in the
>lavalier postion)?  Of course, I am using the blast filter foam screen
>supplied with the mic, since it is totally useless without it! 

>Except for this nagging problem, the mic is useful as a highly
>dirctional lavalier.  Comments?

>Jim Hebert
>Television Sound Engineer
>***************************************************************************
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Have you considered making a blast filter of a different material, like a fine
mesh screen?

kc
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kimc%w8hd@vela.acs.oakland.edu
From: jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Pitch control on DENON DR-M12HX
Keywords: pitch, help, speed
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:01:44 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Hey gang... I need some help... My analog Denon DR-M12HX seems to have
gotton a little fast.  I opened 'er up and played with all the little
screw-turny thingies and none of them controlled the tape speed.  Does
anyone know where the adjustment is for this unit?  Any help would be
gratefully appreciated.  Thanks a bunch.

-jg

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: gds@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (glenn.d.strouse)
Subject: Re: Loudspeaker
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:06:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.205024.12779@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> nguyen@aladdin.eng.hou.compaq.com (Nghia Nguyen) writes:
>
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>Can someone help?
>
>- I am going to purchase some loudspeakers. To save some money , I am planning on
>  ordering them from a mail-order house. I have found two houses that have the
>  stuff I want. Has any of you had any experience (good/bad) dealing with
>  them? They are: USA Media Junction, West Caldwell NJ and Sound City, Kinnelon.
>  Would someone recommend some other houses/phones?
>
>- I like the ALTEC-Lansing 300s/500s Carbon Fiber Series because they produce
>  pretty tight sound at higher volume for classical listening. Can someone
>  recommend equivalent/better speakers. Please specify maker and model?
>
>Thank you very much for your help!
>
>nvn


  Before you do this, you might want to read some of the postings in rec.audio
  regarding Sound City. I had a problem with them as well as several others.

  It seems that they like to send either demo's or refurbished merchandise as
  new.
From: cms2839@ultb.isc.rit.edu (a.stranger)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: AES Convention Index
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:49:03 GMT
Organization: Minimalist Music for Hyperactive Children (MMHC)
Originator: cms2839@ultb






a.stranger's Index to the 1992 AES convention: (apologies to Harper's)


Number of the technical tours which were sold out *before* October 1st, the
first day of the convention: 3

Price of a can of Pepsi on the convention floor: $1.75

Funkiest product of show: the BodySynth, which triggers MIDI events by
detecting ENG currents from your muscles as you dance.

Best manufacturer promo scam: QSC Audio, who got at least 10% of the
convention-goers to wear their buttons by offering a Sony Watchman to any two
people witch matching button numbers who met each other on the convention
floor.

Most subtlely effective promo: Meyer labs, who managed to get a pair of HD-1's
on top of almost every console on the floor.

Most evasive salesdroids: Tascam , who claimed to have "never heard" of dropout
problems on Hi-8 video systems, and therefore couldn't comment on whether this
also applies to their Hi-8 based ADAT competitor.

Most intriguing announcement: Fostex , who announced they will be
supporting Alesis's Super VHS digital recording format .

Number of TEC awards won by the ADAT: 2

Number or products at the Alesis display *not* encased in glass cases: 0

Approximate length of the Sony Mini-Disc/ATRAC videotape , in minutes:
10

Approximate length of the Sony ATRAC A/B demo, in seconds: 45

Largest booth at show: Tie: Sony and Otari

Height of the Peavey booth, in stories: 2

Oddest metaphor of show: "We want to be the freeze-dried noodle company of
audio." - a Dolby Labs spokesperson

People demonstrating the SSL SL 4000 series console: Bob Clearmountain and Tom
Lord-Alge.

Number of direct-to-disc systems at show: too high to count!

Most tonally coloured but potentially useful mic at show: Groove Tube Model One

Most obscenely advanced console at show: the Neve Capricorn , although I
really like the Euphonix CSII's user interface better.


-----


Anyone know if the guy who collapsed at the TEC awards is OK?

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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Printing cassette J-cards
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:13:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.5340
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Sep29.223306.17324@ultb.isc.rit.edu> cms2839@ultb.isc.rit.edu (a.stranger) writes:

>most print shops have giant hydraulic
>paper cutters that they use to trim stacks of printed material , such as
>business cards ( the cutters can trim something like six inches of paper
>at a time [ high ] , and do it accurately ) . it would only take a
>minute , maybe less , to have them trim a stack of cardstock to the
>correct size , and you'd have enough cards to last you for some time to
>come . the printer might be more apt to do this for you if you bought
>the cardstock from them ( they usually have a good selection ) .

This is a great idea but with one minor problem.  The J cards must be
scored to fold properly.  This process is (in relation to the cutting
process) time consuming.  Also running one J card through a laser
printer could be a problem.

If all you want is single scored J cards my sypplier Polyline has them
at about $12 for 400......

If anyone goes the print shop route you should have the shop do them three up
and perf between the cards (this will also add to the cost).

I don't remember off the top of my head but the J cards that I am using
are about $30 per thousand.

I am currently restricted to white card stock from my supplier.

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: rjm@atlanta.dg.com (Randy Myers)
Subject: Monitors for small control rooms
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:16:10 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. SIS, Atlanta, GA

I wish to solicit general recommendations for control room monitors that
are suitable for small spaces.  The studio space in question is approximately
15x18, and doubles as performance and control area.  We tend to record acoustic
musicians who are interested in accurate reproduction of their instrument sound.
The equipment is not high-end but adequate (Tascam 238, Carvin board, various
pretty good mics) except for monitors, which are consumer audio.

There are a confusing number of offerings in the range of $400-$800/pair.  Are
there any clear preferences, I wonder?

I recall similar threads, but I don't have the old discussion.  Is there an
archive of this group that I might search?

Thanks.
--
Randy Myers (WB4SPB)                   Email:    rjm@atlanta.dg.com
Atlanta Systems Integration Services
Data General Corporation

"standard disclaimer"
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,rec.music.synth
From: bobdavis@mighty.viewlogic.com (Bob Davis)
Subject: Re: PC-Based Hard Disk Recording
Originator: bobdavis@mighty
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:38:13 GMT


In article <MAYER.92Oct6112644@hplnpm1.hpl.hp.com>, mayer@hplnpm1.hpl.hp.com (Niels P. Mayer) writes:
|> 
|> What is the actual accuracy and noise specs on the various pc-card-based
|> hard disk recording systems? The Home & Studio Recording article on the
|> CardD doesn't give any specs whatsoever but does say "duuuh, gee wiz, it
|> sounds great." (paraphrase :-)

Yes, H&SR is usually lacking in technical details in reviews.

|> I really wonder whether it is possible to get anywhere near 16 bits of
|> accuracy with all the digital noise going on inside a computer. To say
|> nothing about all the gunk that comes through the switching power supply.

As long as the a/d is external, all processing on the board will
be in the digital domain and the analog/digital crosstalk issue doesn't
really pertain.  Some boards do conversion on the board, and then it does
pertain; I'd recommend getting external converters and a useful digital
i/f.

|> In the cards I've looked at, I haven't noticed any special noise-shielding
|> precautions on the PC boards. The CardD system does look like it
|> uses a 4-layer board with separate analog and digital grounds, but still...
|> 
|> Analogously, I once complained that the audio output of a certain
|> manufacturers CD-rom drive sounded like some of the early "harsh and
|> grainy" consumer CD players back when they could only muster 14 bits of
|> accuracy. The response was that the CD-rom drive could in fact only resolve
|> 14 bits because of all the computer/digital noise in the system & power
|> supply... That was despite the fact that they used a 16 bit DAC...

The computer/analog circuitry crosstalk may be an issue, but how
can you really tell with the ultra cheapo opamp, pot, and mini phone
jack typically used?

-- 
Bob Davis -- bobdavis@viewlogic.com
"Gumby for President (Write-in candidate, No-Bogosity[tm] Party)"
From: tony2@mcl.ucsb.edu (Tony Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Help
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:49:54 GMT


HELP !!!

I would like your expert opinions on the following things....

My situation:  I am a small business DJ with limited (currently) finances.
Hence, I build a lot of my own speakers. I had to 'give back' the first set of
speakers that I built, so I am looking to build another set.
What I'm looking for is any catalogs or companies that sell drivers, cabinets,
etc. Any recommendations???
I'm also looking for any good reference book for speaker building (NOT the
Radio Shack version for Home Speakers but a book about those used on the Club/
Professional level).

Any recommendations for the above and/or sources for other DJing equipment (amps
, mixers, crossover, racks, etc.) would be GREATLY appreciated.

Tony Chan
7324 Hillsboro St.
Goleta, CA
805-685-7214
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Pitch control on DENON DR-M12HX
Keywords: pitch, help, speed
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:07:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.5379
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <BvLwMx.AH6@nic.umass.edu> jg@titan.ucc.umass.edu 
(John Greene) writes:
>Hey gang... I need some help... My analog Denon DR-M12HX seems to have
>gotton a little fast.  I opened 'er up and played with all the little
>screw-turny thingies and none of them controlled the tape speed.  Does
>anyone know where the adjustment is for this unit?  Any help would be
>gratefully appreciated.  Thanks a bunch.
***********


Here are two steps that should help you solve your problem:

1.  Keep your day job.  Random diddling of all of the screw-turny
thingies is a no_no.

2.  Take your deck to the shop (don't tell them what you did)  and ask
them to do a complete alignment.

3.  If you don't want to do that:

	3a. look on thr back of the capstan motor and see if there is
	a screw-turny thingy.  If so, turn it until it sounds like you
	want it.

	3b.  If there isn't any screw-turnies on the motor,  find the
	wires that are connected to the motor and follow it down to
	the circuit board.  Then look for a screw-turny thingy labels
	something like "speed" "C Speed"  something like that.

ANY WORK YOU DO BASED ON THE PRECEEDING ADVICE IS AT YOUR OR YOUR
SURVIVORS RISK.........

I now return control of your set..........

And thank you for reading "The Twilight Zone.      :-)

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: rchalk@nyx.cs.du.edu (Richard Chalk)
Subject: Yamaha CD Players for sale CORRECTION
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 11:31:31 GMT

Please reply to: Richard.Chalk@bbs.oit.unc.edu   --Thanks
 
Following items are for sale (Used)
 
Description                                  Year Mfg.   Orig. $   Asking $
                                                      (mail order)
 
CD Player, Yamaha CDX-500U, Single disk       1988        279        90
type, Works well, has a few scratches,
MISSING remote control
 
CD Player, Yamaha CDX-510U, Single disk       1989        279       140
type, with remote control. Perfect Cond.
 
CD Player, Yamaha CDX-510U, Single disk       1989        279       110
type, missing remote control
 
 
 
Reply Here or Voice at 404-587-1613  Richard.
 

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ricker@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Patrick Lyerly)
Subject: Expert care tips for tapes and CD's...
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:22:37 GMT


I have a speech to give and I need some info.

Does anybody know of any good tips they use on their

tapes or CD's... how they clean them, store them, and how 
to basically make them last longer.

Please help.

How long do tapes  and cds last while kept in cars (direct sunlight or not)

How does sun and heat affect the tapes and cds?

How often should a tapedeck and cd player be cleaned?
Any tips on how to.

Can CD scratches be removed?

Any other info appreciated greatly!

Ricker

P.S. Leave name and source and I might just quote you in my speech if
     you want.

  



Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: dcm2@kepler.unh.edu (Tommy the Cat)
Subject: magazines
Organization: University of Never Went
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:47:48 GMT

Greetings fellow netters,
 	My grandmother wants to buy me a subscription to a magazine
(she's really a nice grandmother), anyway... I don't know what's out
there...  I need recomendations:  My interests are tube amps, that I
can overdrive the snot out of for that one of a kind sound with that oh
so nutty crunch! :-) .....anyway, what's out there in terms of useful
electronics magazines like that?  I have a working tube preamp, that I
built, however, it's not optimized yet... my electronics experience is
beginner to intermediate.

please email me (dcm2@kepler.unh.edu)

Thanks in advance,
-chris
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: Vince@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Vince Koh Kia Keng)
Subject: Re: Surround Compact Disks by ProArte
Keywords: cd surround proarte
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:03:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.155455.13913@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rrccnet@ccu.umanitoba.ca (red river community college) writes:
>I little while ago, someone posted a message about surround
>sound CD's from ProArte.  Since then I have looked around
>locally, and have found only one store that appears to know
>what they are and where to get them.  The person I talked to
>said they could order me the CD's in, but that it would take
>approximately 6-8 weeks to get them here.  What I would 
>like to know, is if there are any mail order places that sell
>these CDs.  Or if someone is sick of the ProArte Surround Sampler
>would they be willing to sell it?
>
>Thanks.
>  Sean.
>
>
>-- 
>| Sean Kormilo                     |        // Only Amiga           |
>| E-Mail: rrccnet@ccu.umanitoba.ca |     \\//  Makes it Possible!   |
>|     I'm not arrogant.  I'm just a whole lot better than you!      |

Hi Sean,

	Yeah, I was the one who posted the info about ProArte surround CDs.
	As I mentioned earlier, I used to know a mail order house that
sold the entire collection, but I've lost the catalogue since then.
Recently however, I received another catalogue that sells box sets of these!

	The name of the mail order place is "Herrington: The Enthusiasts'
Catalogue" (Yeah, they carry all sorts 'o stuff!).  The titles are:

( all by Proarte )

	1) A Mozart Festival (4 CDs), item #: #A568A
	2) A Tchaikovsky Festival (4 Cds), item #: #A570A
	3) The Complete Beethoven Symphonies (5 CDs), item #: A569
	4) Great Melodies of the Classics (4 CDs), item #: #A571

The company's phone number is 1(800)622-5221  (MC/Visa) 
Usual business hours (EST), also Sat and Sun (10am-5pm)

	Now I believe I have some of these CDs individually anyways, like
Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture and Waltzes and Mozarts' Eine Kline Nachmusik,
etc.  Neverthless, I'm interested in ordering one of these sets too.  I'll
probably place an order soon.

	Oh, each of the box sets is $45 + shipping.

	Hope this helps, later then...

-Vince
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.video,misc.consumers
From: chrisp@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Chris Pelkie)
Subject: Re: Problems dealing with this mail order outfit
Keywords:  Electronic Wholesalers, Mitsubishi U57 VCR 
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:19:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.071317.25768@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, dpunjabi@nyx.cs.du.edu (DINESH PUNJABI) writes:
|> I recently purchased a Mitsubishi U57 VCR from Electronic Wholesalers,
|> a New Jersey based mail order company. I was quoted $89 for a 5-year extended
|> warranty on the unit by the salesperson.  I bought the extended warranty 
|> on the unit but when I received the sales invoice it read 3-year warranty for
|> $89 instead of 5-years. 
|> 


|> Rgds
|> 
|> Dinesh
|> 
|> --
|> 
|> Dinesh Punjabi 
|> dpunjabi@nyx.cs.du.edu                Work: (303)-595-2901

Consumer Reports determined a couple years ago that extended warranties
were darn close to the biggest scam going. Generally speaking, electronics
gizmos break on warranty or not til they are real old, and you probably
want the new thingee anyway. Save your money. Look for a consumer
product with no less than a one-year warranty and buy it (make
sure it's USA warranty if that's where you plan to have it fixed).
The extended warranties are rarely needed, and represent a 
juicy pot of extra money for the dealers who sell them.

In fact, has anyone ever got a dealer to honor one? What
were your experiences? Was it worth buying?
I can "trust" Consumer Reports without having
to believe they know everything.
-- 
Chris Pelkie
Scientific Visualization Producer
Cornell Theory Center
Ithaca, NY 14853-3801
chrisp@tc.cornell.edu
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: DAT Royalty - Only on blank tape?
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:59:22 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <Bv5pzu.DF5@encore.com>, mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer) writes:
|> Is the royalty only on blank tape?  What about pre-recorded tape?  If the
|> latter is not taxed, then TDK could just record a 1Khz tone on the first
|> 10 seconds of the tape - so now it's not blank - no royalty!

Better yet, why not put some demo songs on there and use the blank
as a sampler tape ?  Sony could put excerpts from upcoming
Sony/Columbia releases . They can promote new artists and save
consumers the royalty tax !
Newsgroups: rec.audio