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From: 11mwarner@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Ohio State Schedule, Please.
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:16:11 GMT



Hi.  Could someone E-mail me the schedule for Ohio State?  I don't have a
schedule at all.  Please make a notation if it's on national TV (or might be).
And please E-mail it because I'm a college football player (Div. III) myself
and don't have time to read all the things I want right now with training camp
and all.

Many thanks!

							PSYCHO
							(A displaced Ohioan)

11MWARNER@galluj.gallaudet.edu
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Net Trash on Miami (was: Bama & Miss. St.)
Keywords: n
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:27:34 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations

In article <Bt6zHD.BuD@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:
>The press does report everyone like today's Univ. of Maryland WR
>Kevin Donnell Washington.  Kevin was arrested last Friday for
>stolen check forgery and misdemeanor theft.  Kevin has been charged
>with three counts forgery and 9 counts of theft.  Kevin also allegedly
>stole credit cards from two students living in his campus building.

...

>BTW Florida fans, UF's Monty " Steroids-Make-Me " Grow will learns today
>if he is eligible for the 9/12  UF & Kentuckey game.  Grow was suspended
>after last seasons first game having tested positive for a substance
>banned by the NCAA. 

...

>Patton was told he would never play at Miami again.  So, he went back 
>home to Texas.  Patton now plays for Texas A&I. 

...

>Kevin [Williams] had all charges dropped, and will play this year.

And here's today's trash (reported in the Denver Post):

      Two University of Miami football players were indicted by federal
   grand jury on charges of fraud and making false statements in order
   to receive illegal financial aid.

      Senior receiver Lamar Thomas and junior running back Jason Marucci
   were charged in Southern District Court on five and four counts,
   respectively, in connection with a continuing 15-month investigation
   by the U.S. Attorney's office.

      The probe alleges Miami students received Pell Grant money to
   which they were not entitled.  More than 100 students are reportedly
   under investigation, including more than 40 current and former
   football players.

My question is, will the athletic department be charged under the
federal Racketeering and Corrupt Organization (RICO) act?
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
From: rszczerb@milton.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:26:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Aug13.163423.17984@mdd.comm.mot.com> behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>In article <2457.382.uupcb@brent.uucp> al.sorhaindo.jr.@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo Jr.)  writes:
>>BP>1) Washington
>>
>Avoiding Miami -->  Now, this has been discussed on rsfc extensively and the
>issue was dropped about 1.5 month ago, because "Washington avoided Miami"
>is not a true statement.  
>
>Someone has the thorough explanation of why these two teams didn't play in 
>the Kickoff Classic.  Could someone please post it again?
>

I heard that it was because Miami never wants to play a tough
team outside of the Orange Bowl ... and the only way they
would agree to play Washington would be if Washington
was only allowed 8 men on the field at one time.

	- rob
From: mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Respect for NC State
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:18:02 GMT
Reply-To: mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Organization: North Carolina State University

>>
>>Apparently you do not keep up with Division 2 of the NCAA. Marshall was
>>in last year's football final four for the Div. 2 and I think that they
>>ended up losing in the finals as well. They are obviously no patsy, much
>>like Dick Sheridan's teams at Furman in the early 80's. I would put the
>>Top 5 in Div. 2 aginst a lot of teams in the Top 25 any day of the week.
>
>You have got to be joking.
>Name one IAA member who has beaten a top 25 team in the past ten years.
>How about even a close game against a IA Top 25 team (outside of the ACC)?
>How about a list of IAA members who have beaten IA teams with winning records?
>Yeah, I'll put a Top 5 IAA team against a Top 25 IA team any day of the week,
>too, but they're going to lose.
>
>GT
>

Didn't the Citidel beat South Carolina no too long ago? I don't think
South Carolina was in the top 25 at the time though. I do remember a Dick
Sheridan coached Furman team coming into Raleigh and blowing the
Wolfpack out (I believe NCSU hired Sheridan the next year). I know that
ECU has lost to some I-AA teams in recent years(I can't remember who).
Didn't Georgia Southern about beat Auburn not too long ago also?

I agree that it is a bit much to say the top 5 I-AA teams match up
with top 25 I-A teams any day of the week. On a given day with the right
circumstances maybe but not as a general rule. I would put the top I-AA teams
against average and below average I-A teams but I-AA victories over I-A
teams dosen't seem to happen too often.

KRM

Disclaimer:Despite my place of employment I neither love the Wolfpack
            nor do I hate them :-) .
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From: jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Subject: Re: Penn State Football - In the SF bay area ???
Organization: University of Utah
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 05:30:57 GMT

In article <l98iiiINNksa@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> jabbi@ () writes:
>
>Any folks out there who are aware of how/where I can watch Penn State football games
>in the SF bay area ? Since ABC now controls the CFA football games, they pretty much
>stick to regional stuff :-(
>
>Please e-mail me directly to let me know - else send me the telephone number 
>of a rehabilitation center (withdrawl symptoms for lack of nittany lion football).
>Thanks.
>
>Prediction: Penn State 16   Miami 14
>
>aman



	WILL BE:   PSU 28  Miami 21


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: When is the KICKOFF CLASSIC?
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:54:29 GMT
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In <92234.093330ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

> In article <1992Aug21.131232.26178@relay.nswc.navy.mil>,
> gsprow@lordvader.nswc.navy.mil (Gregg Sprow) says:
> >
> >  Excuse me for being out of it, but what day, time and network is
> >the KICKOFF CLASSIC?  Thanks in advance.
> 
>      It's August 26th (Wednesday) at 6:00 PM PST.  I don't know what network
> it'll be on; it's being carried by the local NBC affiliate here though.
> Go Cardinal
> Brett

  Ahhh, Bret, that's the PIGSKIN you're describing, unless that and the Kickoff
are on the same day.  And they say we Aggies are easily confused! :-)

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:22:18 GMT

dpettit@javelin.sim.es.com (Daina Pettit) writes:

>I get a kick out of all the sour grapes on this topic.  Every complaint
>I've heard fails to mention that a couple of games into the 85 season, just
>a couple of games after winning the MNC, BYU thumped Washington 31-3.
>Washington was not locked into the Orange bowl and could have chosen to
>play BYU for the MNC, but passed on the Holiday Bowl because of lack of
>$prestige.  Any crying by them is just 'sour grapes'.

A couple of games, a couple of years.  It makes no difference when it's
not in the season of discussion.  Fact is, Washington would have blown
away BYU during the 84(83?) season.  And they didn't play in the Holiday Bowl
because they were still ranked no.4 (no.3 really with Florida on
probation).  Washington's best shot at the MNC was to play Oklahoma
(no.2) and hope the polsters took BYU's weak schedule into account.  
After Washington would have beaten BYU in the Holiday, if 
Oklahoma had won the Orange Bowl, Oklahoma would have certainly won the
MNC.  Washington would have garnered no respect for having beaten BYU.


Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire
From: jordan@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: USC Trojans
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:36:19 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <l8d9l1INN1jl@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, rossm@orcrist.EBay.Sun.COM (Ross McCammon - SFD Program Management) writes:
>>1978: AP Poll elects Alabama (11-1-0), Southern Cal (12-1) takes UPI vote
> 
> I'll support him for 1978. USC drilled Alabama that year and Bear Bryant still
> had the gall to claim #1. Does anyone know the score of that game?

I don't know the score of the 1978 USC/Bama game.  However, I do know that
the 1978 season was when Oklahoma beat every team it played, but still was
overlooked for the MNC.  That was Billy Sims' Heisman year, when he fumbled
(damn) away the go-ahead touchdown on the 1 yard line in a snowy, rainy, cold,
icky, pukey Lincoln storm.  OU lost.  The Orange Bowl folks scheduled a
rematch, and OU waxed Nebraska's collective butt.  The score was closer than
the game; a couple of garbage-time TD's made it look better than it was for NU. 
My recollection of that time is that most people thought Switzer's black hat
image and Billy Sims' Heisman hype were responsible for the snub.  A playoff
would have been REALLY interesting that year!
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From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: The "Real" scoop on Notre Dame (long)
Organization: control_centers
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:00:18 GMT
Keywords: Shouldn't he have known better?  Idiot.


Before any rumors get started...

Excerpts from the article in today's Chicago Tribune

"NCAA violations hang over DuBose"

... But on Thursday he was rendered mute by the disclosures
that were first made public by the Los Angeles Times. 
    The newspaper report said DuBose received a $5000 loan
and unspecified gifts from a couple in Seattle, his hometown,
who are Notre Dame alumni.  The newspaper said that the loan
was to be paid back after the NFL draft.
    After initially refusing to comment on the newspaper
report, the athletic department issued a statement from
director Dick Rosenthal saying that the university
investigated the allegations, found violations of NCAA rules
and declared DuBose ineligible for play this season.
    When Notre Dame notified the NCAA of its findings two
weeks ago, it also asked the NCAA to restore DuBose's 
eligibility because DuBose "did not know that the particulars
in this case resulted in an NCAA violation," the statement
said.
    Specifically, the statement said DuBose received a $600
loan from a couple associated with the University.
    David Berst, chief of the NCAA's enforcement division,
refused to comment on the case but noted that NCAA rules
prohibit gifts and favors to scholarship athletes from persons
who are closely associated with the university such as
boosters, recruiters or go-betweens for coaches.
  ...
Although Notre Dame declared DuBose ineligible, under NCAA
rules he is still allowed to practice with the team. 
...
In declaring DuBose ineligible after its own investigation,
Notre Dame followed standard procedures.  Such actions by
universities are common and in each edition of the NCAA News,
there are several items about schools reporting violations to
the NCAA and the ultimate action, if any, taken by the NCAA.
...             
[ND Sports information director, John] Heisler said DuBose
knew the couple long before he decided to enroll at Notre
Dame. Heisler said he did not know when the loan was made.

-- 
Your bangs do a good job of covering up your lobotomy stitches. - Calvin & Hobbes

robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com    GO IRISH, BEARS, BULLS, WHITE SOX, HAWKS, etc.
From: demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Greatest Ever?
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:22:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB

>Mel Kiper lists 3 Miami Hurricane receivers in the top 9 for next years
>draft.  Has there ever been a receiving corp as good as Horace Copeland,
>Kevin Williams, and Lamar Thomas?  If so, who?

I wouldn't venture them being the best ever (I know Tennessee, among
others, had some truly impressive receiving corps), but 1987's Syracuse 
squad had the following three wide receivers:  Tommy Kane (Seahawks), Rob
Moore (Jets), Scott Schwedes (Dolphins), and I believe the tight end
(whose name escapes me at the moment) is also in the NFL.
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From: baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami losing a game
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:44:49 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <Bsvq8y.Ls7@encore.com>, jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:
> 
> Someone told me that this will be the first night game ever at Iowa.
> Also that Iowa is pumped up for this game like it is the biggest game they
> have ever played.  I talked to a few Cane fans at the spring practice, that
> did feel Iowa would be the hardest team this year for the Canes.  Didn't
> Miami play Iowa two years ago, and is this the same type of offense.

I remember a great night game at Kinnick a few years back when #2 Michigan came
in to face the #1 Hawks (or were the rankings the other way?)  Iowa won the
game 12 -10 on four Rob Houghtlin FGs.  What a great game.  But, that game
started in late afternoon and temporary lights were set up when the game
enetered its late stages.  I don't think that any games have been played
entirely at night.  And you are right, the Iowa players are reallu juiced for
this game.  This worries me becuz they play a decent NC State in Kickoff Classic
and I hope they don't overlook them.  Hayden Fry is still the coach and he
hasn't change his offense in years.

> 
> If Iowa is really pumped up any think could happen.  But, if Iowa just
> runs the ball most of the time it will be four downs and out for Iowa.
> This is the best defense Miami has ever had IMHO.  Rusty Medearis
> delights in terrorizing quarterbacks.  Rusty is a force of one.

Remember this is not Colorado, Iowa is only allowed a total of four downs
before punting:-)  Iowa's offense is usually varied and can be sophisicated. 
Iowa has produced the Big 10's first team QB quite often in the past few
years.  Finally, the strength of the Hawks this year is their experienced
offensive line.  Four returning starters and a All-American candidate in C Mike
Devlin (who did a tremendous job on Russel Maryland a couple of years back) 
The Iowa OL has the ability to neutralize Medearis et al. if anyone does in the
country.

I am waiting to see how the Hawks do in the Kickoff C. before making any
predictions.  But, they do have a terrific chance to knock off the Canes if
things fall into place.

Bill Baker
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hey Cliff...    (was: KICKOFF CLASSIC- NCSU's GREAT CHANCE)
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:51:56 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: na
Organization: Murasami Labs

Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith wrote:

> - goober (for the life of me, i can't remember why i was going 
>                                       to be in anaheim next wednesday) smith

Gee, Goobster, I hope you're not taking Aggie Airways!!!

James
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Miami losing a game
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:28:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.181459.23912@news.uiowa.edu> bnolte@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Bill Nolte) writes:
>From article <1992Aug1.154629.23628@encore.com>, by jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa):
>> In <64805@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> | A good chance for Miami to go down is when they play Penn St., in Oct.,
>> 
Stuff Deleted

>> I hate to say this being a Gator fan, but fact being fact, the Canes look good.
>> 
Stuff Deleted

>> Joe
>You guys just keep talking like this.  As long as Miami thinks they have
>nothing to worry about when they play Iowa this fall, it will be easier
>for us to beat them.  But for those of you who do NOT think Miami is the
>god of college football, the Canes play the Hawks Sept. 5.  They play
>in Kinnick Stadium (Iowa City) and it will be Miami's first game of the
>year.  The Hawks will have already played N.C. State.  So if you really
>want to know when the first Cane loss will be, look no farther than
>Sept. 5.  But for those of you that don't believe me, shh, we wouldn't
>want to worry the Mighty Canes.
>
>Bill 

When I first saw this years schedule I was dismayed to find out we were opening
with Iowa. Especially when I found out that they would already be battle hardened
with one game under their belt. Don't think all Canes fans live in fantasyland
and believe that we're invincible. I'm always concerned playing a perrenially
good football team like Iowa as a season opener, but even more so since you guys
will have that experience factor in your favor. I do not expect the Canes to be
100% in this game either because we've been rather slow to start the season in the
last decade or so. It's rare to see the Canes looking anything but groggy that
first game or two. I'm afraid that if we yawn once too often in this game we'll
be leaving Kinnick Stadium rubbing our butt cheeks from getting them kicked by
you boys. The only saving grace for the Canes is to hope that ya`ll get pummeled
a little bit by those good `ole boys from NC State :~) . Maybe they can soften
you up a bit so we can go in and finish the job. At least I hope so.

John T.

PS I think Iowas helmets are super cool, I wish the Canes could do something about
   theirs.
-- 
My opinions only, if you don't like `em don't read `em. 
Hurricanes and Dolphins, my favorite weather phenomena and aquatic mammals, oh
and also my favorite football teams. And remember to always genuflect in Shula's
presence and to kiss his Super Bowl Rings. .........John "Dolphinatic" Turman
From: demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big 8 poll
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:42:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB

>I wonder who picked CU to finish 5th in Big 8!

Probably the same lone voter who picked Missouri to finish 4th ...
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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Trouble under the Golden Dome?
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:05:39 GMT

sorry for the waste of bandwith, but I just love the subject...  :-)

cmuck
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Holtz, Du Bose
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:42:46 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


All right, I'll eat my words.
1) The charges were eventually dropped
2) There were no arrests in the Clemson situation.
3) I thought I saw something this morning about DuBose being suspended
   after all for this latest incident.
If that's true, I hope my *favorite* announcer, Beano Cook, eats his words
about predicting ND to be NFL playoff caliber this year, or whatever it was
he said.  Anyway, I was a bit hasty in my posting.
-- 
BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Demt. DuBose (sp?) playing
Keywords: Holtz, sit out
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:06:47 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Aug21.191512.5300@leland.Stanford.EDU> paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.001047.25879@u.washington.edu> baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>>
>about three years ago Holtz suspended Michael Stonebreaker, one of the teams best linebackers, for teh entire season because  he had move a friend's car down the street when his license had been suspended (Stonebreaker's license, t
>hat is.)
>I remember thinking that it was an unduly harsh punishment at the time.

Holtz did not suspend Stonebreaker, the University administration did.  In
fact, they not only suspended him as a football player, but as a student.
I'm not sure if Stonebreaker's license had actually been suspended, but
he'd gotten in trouble for driving under the influence, not a light matter, 
and it had been made completely clear to him that he was not to drive a car 
at all while on campus.

Holtz does, however, have a history of suspending players who break the
rules, both at Notre Dame and at Arkansas.  (I don't know about his
record along these lines while at Minnesota.)  Generally, the suspensions
tend to be for one game or so, but he shows no shyness in suspending
key players before important games.

>And from what i read today, it looks like Dubose is off the team.  That would make him eligible for the NFL Supplemental draft.  

There's still a hearing and appeal process to go through, and it's not
clear that the hearing won't go DuBose's way.  

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Net Trash on Bama & Miss. St.
Keywords: n
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:01:30 GMT

In article <Bt6zHD.BuD@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:

>hand guns.  FSU had students killed by Bundy. The Miami-OverTown riot or
>the LA riots are all the reason you need to take a gun with you.  BTW,
>I had a gun that my father gave me when I went to school in Atlanta,
>after my off-campus apt. was broken into two nights in a row.
>

Hey - wait!  Jason "Miami is God" Fawcett once went to school in
Atlanta?  Dare we ask where   :)



-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu
"I sensed that we were sending arms.  And I sensed we were trying to
 get hostages out.  But not arms for hostages." - George Bush, January, 1988
From: ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Dennis Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Tennessee football update
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:16:42 GMT
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

Could someone please send me some information on how the Tennessee team is 
doing during training. Thank you in advance.
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