From: patrick@owlnet.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Run conservatives, run away! (Was: Re: Homophobics can't...)
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:05:55 GMT

In article <12021@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>In article <BtqrGC.935@rice.edu>, patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>> In article <11991@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>> >In article <5092@gold.gvg.tek.com>, mikea@zorba.gvg.tek.com (Michael P. Anderson) writes:
># ## Marked a liberal, the message I got from Houston was that if I don't conform
># ## to their view of the world, there is no place for me in my own country. How
># ## does that make me feel? Well, I'll tell you:
># ## 
># ## This is my country too. I'm not telling you how to behave or what to think.
># #
># #What an utter lie.  You are a liberal.  You support laws to tell me how
># #to behave (antidiscrimination laws to protect homosexuals from the
># #consequences of their parades), that tell me that I may not defend
># #myself from criminal attack, that tell me that I MUST fund your
># #pet art projects.
># 
># You damned idiot.  If homosexuals hold a parade, how are they forcing
># themselves on you?  Are they kidnapping you and dragging you down to make
># you participate?  It's funny that you have no qualms about supporting laws
># that tell *them* how to behave -- but God forbid YOU should have to be
># subject to the same rules...
>
>They are insisting that the government force people to hire homosexuals.
>That's force.

Idiot.  If they're insisting it, that still doesn't mean the government
will necessarily do it.  Just another case of "do as I say, not as I do"...

># ## Please don't tell me how to behave or what to think. If you continue I will
># ## have to deprive you of your freedoms before you deprive me of mine. Is that
># ## clear?
># ## 		
># ## Are you people trying to start a civil war?
># ## 
># ## 								MPA
># #
># #Who is starting the civil war?  It's liberals, with their constant
># #need to run my life, tell me who to associate with, what charities
># #to fund, and what ideas I am allowed to express.
># 
># Name me a law that tells you who to associate with, what charities to fund,
>
>AB 2601, just passed by our legislature, and likely to be signed by
>our governor.

That isn't a law, is it?  If it hasn't gone through the legislative procedure,
it isn't.  (Besides that, just *how* does it tell you who to associate with?
You never have offered one shred of evidence to back up that assertion -- other
than just repeating your assertion, that is.)

>Charities?  AFDC?

Come on, Creamer -- admit it.  You're about as clueless as is possible.

># or what ideas you can express.  For some reason, I don't seem to be able to
>
>Student speech codes at UC Berkeley and Stanford.

Laws, you bozo.  

># find any in Texas...
>
>This is California, where liberals run everything.

According to you -- but, for some reason, you can't seem to provide any
evidence to provide a little substance to your claims.  (Your whole whine
here sounds suspiciously like you're just pissed because you're not getting
what you consider to be your rightful share of the perks.)

># #It's clear why liberals support laws to disarm the population --
># #they know that when push comes to shove, the only way to get the
># #population lined up for death camps is if they are disarmed.
># 
># What a maroon -- in other words, Mike is liberal solely because he thinks
># homosexuals are people too, and you don't.  Guess what -- I'm in agreement
>
>No, because Mike has expressed enthusiasm for the rest of the fascist
>agenda.

Sure, Claytoon.  And you're a rational debater, too.  I happen to have a little
beachfront property I'd like to sell you, in that case.  It's in 
South Dakota.

># with him on that much, and I'm straight...and a Libertarian.  Now let's see
># you tell ME I'm for gun control...
>
>Careful who you defend.  MPA is as close to an anti-Libertarian as
>there is on USENET -- except maybe Ed Nilges.

How would YOU know?  You have no earthly idea of what being a libertarian
(of whatever case) is in the first place -- your ravings here demonstrate
*that*.  (Let's see -- "anti-Libertarian" in Claytoon-speak means anyone
who doesn't share your skewed view of the world.)

>Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
>Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
>prohibition won't work.

Neither will homosexual prohibition, you nitwit.  

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