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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: More on *MY* CSD problem.. CSD OK
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:08:38 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov4.124310.25@idx.com> gsk@idx.com writes:
>-- OK... It looks like the problem is not too bad..  It did monkey
>with the BETA partition, and I think I will reformat that partition,
>and reload the BETA on that one.. BUT.. the C drive seems to be
>functional, and the CSD installed there fine..

This is proper behavior if you just booted the CSD diskettes.

>I don't know if I had tried the "selective Service" mode of
>installing the CSD, if that would have saved me my BETA install...  I
>have the same situation on another machine, so I might try to take
>that option, and see if that allows me to do things by partition.  I
>had assumed that this updated different aspects (OS, APPS, WINOS2,
>etc) of the kit..  

If you you run the on-line selection service (A:\SERVICE.EXE) first,
the system will be scanned for all upgradable products (in this case,
just OS/2 2.0 base system) and you will be asked which ones you want
to upgrade.
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:28:10 EST
From: Jerry Bryan <BRYAN@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ANSI primer
 <1992Oct29.185037.4221@njitgw.njit.edu>


People from time to time post their favorite prompts.  Here is mine.
It gives you a red prompt on a blue screen, plus giving you the
current drive and directory, current date, and current time.  Since
the prompt is fairly long (sometimes), the cursor is moved to the
next line down.

There is one (what I consider a) glitch in my prompt.  When you first
open a window (or when you first boot, if it is a DOS PC), the whole
screen is not blue.  The screen gets blue as you work your way down,
entering command line commands.  You can fix it with a CLS command
(which I include as the last thing in AUTOEXEC.BAT for DOS).  I don't
think the glitch can be fixed in the prompt itself, and I think that
any scheme to set colors in the prompt will have the glitch.

set prompt=$_$e[1;37;41m$p $d $t $e[44m$_$g$e[K
From: h198@hosp.med.umich.edu  (Gene Mangum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: **WARNING: POSSIBLE CSD PROBLEM! ?? **
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992  10:13 EDT
Organization: Univ of Michigan Hospitals
Distribution: world
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In Article <1992Nov4.115830.21@idx.com> "gsk@idx.com" says:
> --  *** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ***
> 
> There was one question asked at the start of the update.. I THOUGHT it asked if
> I wanted all services updated. The alternative was to boot OS/2 and run a
> procedure on the CSD... Evidently I must have mis-understood the question.
  I have a GA and a Beta partition.   I ran the SERVICE program under beta
  so I didn't have to boot from disks to apply the update (I don't think
  you can apply it directly to a running system since some files are
  reserved in use), but I think it should be the same if you boot from
  diskettes.
  The install gave me a list with the 2 drives which have OS/2.   Following
  the instructions from the README.SP, I de-selected the beta drive.
  This is probably the question it asked you, too...

Gene Mangum
Univ of Michigan Hospitals
From: kbeal@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Ken Beal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Ctl-alt-del bug?  Was: My trip report
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:34:52 GMT
Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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In article <1992Oct26.191932.1553@bilver.uucp> dandrews@bilver.uucp (Dave Andrews) writes:
>In article <1992Oct26.030423.5779@fcom.cc.utah.edu> brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>>Word from James Taylor, Team Leader for WPS in Boca Raton.
>>Under the GA release do _NOT_ use Ctrl-Alt-Delete to restart the
>>machine, things can screw up.  This should be fixed in the
>>Service Pack.
>>
>
>Brian, what does he mean when he says "things can screw up"?
>
>- David Andrews
>  dandrews@bilver.oau.org

	When I have done this, I ended up losing any changes I made to
icons, folders, etc. -- things on the Desktop.  Nothing *else* bad happened,
but that was bad enough (i.e. no files were corrupted, just the changes
didn't get saved).
--
Kenneth L. Beal, Jr.			kbeal@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com
"I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!" - MST3k
"Street person my responsibility." - Indigo Girls
The opinions expressed above are true.  The preceding sentence is false.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: What is Ultrastor ????
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  6 Nov 1992 09:12 EST  

In article <1992Nov6.103617.10275@rcvie.co.at>, cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. 
Paul) writes...
>Can someone please briefly tell those of us who don't know what Ultrastor is,
>for which two Beta ADD drivers were just posted to comp.binaries.os2?

Ultrastor is a brand of hard drive controller.  Having glanced through comp
binaries.os2, the Beta ADD drivers appear to be for the Ultrastor SCSI 
controllers.

JD
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Multiple serial ports in OS/2
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:13:14 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1df0b8INNnpa@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> louis@oak.ucsc.edu (Louis Goldstein) writes:

>In article <16849@umd5.umd.edu>, adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>|> In article <1d937gINN2cf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> louis@arapaho.ucsc.edu writes:
>|> >Most IO cards will allow you to select different IRQs for the com ports.  You
>|> >should see if your card will do this, or get a card that will.  OS/2 will NOT
>|> >support more than 1 device per IRQ on an ISA bus.
>|> >
>|> >Louis
>|> 
>|> What about on an EISA bus?
>|> -- 
>|>  ============================================================================
>|>  Al Dhir                      			   Technical Consulting Staff
>|>  Internet: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu	  	 University of Maryland, College Park
>|>  Bitnet:   adhir%cygnus.umd.edu@Interbit      (301) 405-1500 * (301) 405-3014

>Don't have any personal experience, but I've been told that both EISA and 
>micro-channel are smart enough to share IRQs.

Yes, but you have to have an EISA *BOARD* as well as an EISA bus.  In
other words, to share interrupts successfully in an EISA machine, you
will need an EISA serial board as well as an EISA bus.  Or that's my
understanding of the way things work, anyway.


-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: C++ compiler
Date: 8 Nov 1992 07:27:47 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <BxDM2B.2u9@scd.hp.com>, by kitchin@avo.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin):
> I think I heard that a beta of IBM's C++ compiler was included on the
> DAP CD ROM.  How one gets a copy, you'll have to ask someone else.

Sorry, but there's no IBM C++ compiler on the DAP CD ROM I received which
is dated October 1992... There is a beta of the IBM C compiler which includes a really nice source code profiler, though...
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rpeou@athena.mit.edu (Rith   Peou)
Subject: Does 32-bit Tseng driver work with Speedstar?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:20:34 GMT


I was wondering if anyon with a Diamond SpeedStar video card has been able
to use the 32-bit Tseng driver in 1024x768 mode.  Using this mode, my system
hangs with the hard drive light continuously on, but it works in 800x600
mode; an even stranger thing is that the system hangs at different times,
sometimes just after the OS/2 logo disappears, sometimes just when the 
WPS is loaded, and other at other times, but I have never gotten past the
screen refreshing for the WPS.

Is it just my system or have other people experienced the same?  Has anyone
been successful running 1024x768 mode on the Speedstar?

Thanks for any info,
Rith
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kskapin@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Keith T Skapinski)
Subject: Re: TVGACRTC
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:33:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.165934.4478@schbbs.mot.com> jwichman@cssjgw (Jon Wichman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.143501.29910@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> ezeller@iiic.ethz.ch  
>(Emil Johann Zeller) writes:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> does anyone know, where I can get TVGACRTC.EXE?
>
>Mine came on the driver diskettes that came with my trident
>video board.  You might be able to get it from the Trident BBS
>also. That number is 415-691-1016 (U.S.)
>

So did mine. However, what use does it have for OS/2? What is it supposed
to o again? Thanks.
From: hcobb@fly2.berkeley.edu (Henry J. Cobb)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Does VESA Local Bus put a huge strain on a CPU?
Date: 7 Nov 92 09:13:38
Organization: /rubin/hcobb/.organization
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	<1992Nov3.195634.7436@njitgw.njit.edu>
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In-reply-to: ddavis@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Thu, 5 Nov 1992 03:34:58 GMT


]Let me possibly further confuse this issue.  How does a local bus IDE
]controller fit into the picture?  Is the combination of LB video and drive
]controller about the same as far as drive performance while offering better
]video?  The Gateway 2000 66MHz LB system offers both the LB IDE drive and LB
]ATI video combination.
]
]dave davis
]ddavis@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu

	If it implements a multi-sector cache on the local bus then the
card would pull down a sector and present it on the local bus for a quick
CPU fast-memory to fast-memory copy.

	But the best solution would be a bus-mastering FIFO over the local
bus to dribble information directly anywhere into main memory at LB speeds
without CPU intervention.

	Will we see a local bus Adaptec SCSI controller soon? (And drivers
for Half-OS and Uni-yucks? (Surely not a trademark of a Modem test
command)).
--
	Henry J. Cobb	hcobb@fly2.berkeley.edu	SFB Tyrant
		"What's the frequency Kenneth?"
From: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Service Pack Results/Questions
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:09:47 GMT
Reply-To: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

According to zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla):
>Unfortunately, Mr. Charlap has been promulgating incorrect information on
>comp.os.os2.misc.  As Alok Dhir first reported....
>
>DO NOT USE DPINSTL.EXE TO INSTALL THE ET4000 DRIVERS!!!
>
>I hate to scream like this, but this misinformation is being perpetuated.
>Use the selective install and do exactly what it tells you to do --
>eventually, it will get you to the Service Pack's driver diskettes.  If
>you don't install it correctly, parts of your display will look shitty and
>your system will be unstable because you are missing important parts of
>the video output system (like fonts).


Stop screaming! Sheesh.  For some people, this works fine.  When I first
installed the CSD, I used DSPINSTL and had some problems (I have a clone of
the Cardinal Technologies 732 card, ET4000 based).  I then used Selective
Install and things were OK.  Unfortunately, I crashed the systm by deleting
OS2BOOT the other day (don't ask why), and had to reinstall.  This time I
used only DSPINSTL and had no problems.  It seems that if you already have
the proper fonts on your system, DSPINSTL works because it only updates the
drivers.  If you have a need to change your fonts, you have to use
Selective Install.  At no times have I ever had mangled notebook tabs
before or after DSPINSTL/Selective Install.
-- 
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The University of Texas at Austin    : 
Internet: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu : Radioactive potassium & carbon that are
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: TE/2 question (was Re: Try this (I *LOVE* OS/2 2.x) ...)
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:35:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.215845.3836@nmt.edu> stimpy@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:

 >> A related question between Procomm + and TE/2 is this:
 >> 
 >> In procomm, I set the duplex to Full to get it to talk to my school's
 >> sun system correctly. When I run TE/2, what do I set the Local Echo to?
 >> 
 >> Is the duplex and Local echo the same thing. Does Full Duplex == local
 >> echo being ON?
 >> 
[stuff deleted]

Full Duplex != Local Echo ON (Local Echo ON is Half-Duplex)
Full Duplex == Local Echo OFF

This an overly simplistic answer.  Local echo is designed to deal with hosts
that DO NOT echo back the characters typed at the terminal.  With local echo
on, and a host that does echo, each character that you type will be displayed
twice (i.e. type 'A', you see 'AA' on the screen).  Duplexing (Full or Half)
determines whether the transmit and receive channel can be used simultaneously.
Full duplex means both transmit and receive can be active at the same time.  
This is a hold-over from MODEMs of 10 years ago and older.  In order to
get reasonable data rates (i.e. >300bps) over standard telephone lines,
MODEMs used the entire bandwidth of the channel for transmission.  This meant
that only ONE transmitter at a time could be active (and multiple receivers
could listen in - networking using MODEMs).

--
Regards,
Robert Gammon
(713)-274-3299       (voice)
(713)-274-2324       (fax)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Subject: Termcap for ELVIS
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:48:15 GMT

Elvis does not work with the termcap file shipped with emacs. It does
not start and the massage
			Unrecognized TERM type
is shown.

Help.

Luca Priorelli
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Black Specks on the Desktop
From: Martin J. Doyle <MBDMD@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:10:19 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

I'm running with the service pack applied and the 1024x768 TSENG 4000
drivers installed via selective install.  I've been having problems
figuring out how to use VMODE CUSTOM to get my monitor working
non-interlaced but I think I've got that working now too.

I'm not sure if this is a new problem, an old problem that I haven't
read about or if I just screwed something out and was wondering if
anyone else has seen this problem too.  I run with the default light
gray desktop.  After I've run VMODE MONITOR to set my custom monitor
settings I get little black specks all over my light gray desktop.
It looks like someone shook pepper on my desktop.  If I hit the right
mouse button and then select REFRESH the black specks go away.  As
I open and close different applications these black specks come back.
Again, REFRESH makes them go away.

I'm really happy with the new TSENG 4000 drivers now that I've been
able to get them running non-interlaced.  Images are sharp and solid.
This peppering of my desktop is pretty annoying.  My guess is that I
still haven't selected the best options from VMODE CUSTOM; unfortunately,
I don't think I have enough documentation on both the VMODE utility
and my monitor, Sony 1604, to figure out the best custom setting.

Thanks,

Martin J. Doyle
VM Systems Programming Contractor
Rohm and Haas Company
Philadelphia,  Pennsylvania
MBDMD@ROHVM1
(215) 592-6865 (Day)
(215) 752-2296 (Evening)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: paul@tct.com (Paul Levin)
Subject: Re: Neat Utils for OS/2
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:13:43 GMT

According to sip1@midway.uchicago.edu:
>In article <1992Nov9.161221.6252@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>>	Another util that would be nice would be one to change the
>>default OS/2 logo screen that pops up every time you turn on the
>>machine.
>

I have no idea if the following will work, but it is worth mentioning.
When you run the jigsaw puzzle game that comes with OS/2, the only picture
that comes with the game is the OS/2 signon logo.  The selection list, in
the game, gives the name of the file containing the image.  What if you
simply changed the content of that file ? or is that way too simple ?
If someone tries this, can you post the result.

-- 
From:  Paul Levin   paul@count.tct.com   813-532-2239 (work, 9-5 EST)
    --> Jesus loves you, and died for you; thank Him today. <--
From: pickrell@hoss.unl.edu (Andrew Pickrell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Pause in loading  OS/2
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:37:42 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu
Summary: Pause in loading of OS/2
Keywords: os2, bug

Sometime in the last couple of weeks, a pause has developed in the loading
of OS/2.  After the title screen with the GA text comes up, the computer
waits about 10 seconds before hitting the harddrive again.

Does anyone know the reason behind this or better yet, a solution???

Thanks,

--
===========================================================================
Andrew Pickrell                   | My opinions are my own,
UNL Dept. of Chemical Engineering | but they could be yours too
EMail :pickrell@hoss.unl.edu      | for the low price of 5 bucks...
From: kmacleod@hyperdesk.com (Kenneth Macleod)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Service Pack Results...
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:54:59 GMT
Reply-To: kmacleod@hyperdesk.com (Kenneth Macleod)
Organization: HyperDesk Corp.

In article <1992Nov5.155029.20839@cbnews.cb.att.com>,
shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
|> 
|> Well... I don't want to argue the point since I agree fundamentally
that
|> when data are coming into the window fast enough, then line-by-line
update
|> is "wasted motion."  However, when the data aren't coming in very
fast, at
|> 2400 baud say, then line-by-line may be the way to go. 
Notwithstanding our
|> possible disagreement on this point, OS/2 windowed VIO & VDM sessions
are
|> so slow that it's impractical, even at low data rates.
|> 
|> Larry
|> -- 
|> Larry A. Shurr (las@cbnmva.att.com or att!cbnmva!las) speaking only
for myself.
|> EOR (end-of-ramble)

I remember the 6.149 beta release of OS/2, summer of '91.  That ws by
far and away the most stable version of OS/2 2.0 I have ever seen, even
for dos sessions. There was no windows and no wps, of course.

At that release, there was a setting (that is still there) so you could
set up how often you wanted a dos screen to refresh.  Back then it
really worked (I have no idea what it does now, nothing it seems).  By
setting the refresh interval to say one second the screen would only
update once a second in every mode, including graphics.  This was really
great.  Screen updates where even faster than in dos. I really wish they
would bring that back.

I really can not figure out what IBM has been doing with OS/2 since GA. 
They have had all this time and I can't say things are significantly
better with the CSD.

Oh well.  It is still way better than anything else.
From: enk2@po.CWRU.Edu (Erik N. Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Cshow 8.41/Trident SVGA and OS2 2.0
Date: 8 Nov 1992 00:02:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: enk2@po.CWRU.Edu (Erik N. Kovach)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) says:

> I have a problem using CSHOW 8.41 with a Trident SVGA card (512K) running
> under OS/2.

I had the same problem.  I assume you are running the CSD with the old
Trident drivers.  My friend and I think that it is an incompatability of
the old drivers with the new 32-bit GRE, but I don't understand why this
would happen in a full-screen DOS session.  I am now not running the CSD
until Trident comes out with new drivers.  Bummer, isn't it?

Hope this helps.

-- 
    Erik Kovach       |    "OMIGOD!  The brakes are gone!"
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From: djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: system slowdown?
Date: 14 Nov 92 02:24:38 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>>Things were very fast when I first installed, but they slowed down
>>considerably within a few days.
>
>The description you provide seems to suggest disk fragmentation.  Are
>you running FAT?  If so, you may wish to defragment.

It's all HPFS. I did discover (see the separate posting) that my
os2sys.ini file had grown to 11MB (!); I don't know whether this could
have been a factor. I've had to do a complete reinstall since (as
described in the posting about os2sys.ini) and things are peppy again.

--David
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: "DOS from Drive A" fails with "Illegal Instruction" error.
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:09:02 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1dpubcINNh9u@myall.awadi.com.au> dhichens@awadi.com.au writes:
>	Has anybody come across the problem of "DOS from Drive A" failing with
>an "Illegal Instruction" error? The problem occured both before and after
>installing the service pack.  

(Please limit your lines to 80 columns. Thanks.)

I was setting up my DAK CDROM this morning and ran across this problem, as
well as various problems with reading from the floppy. What finally worked for
me was to use VMDISK to build an image on my hard disk and boot from that (via
the DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE setting).

(I'll post my experience with the DAK CDROM in another message...please be
patient.)
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
     We survived Jimmy Carter; we'll (probably) survive Bill Clinton.