HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams)
Subject: Re: Internet Connection to Congress
Summary: Email would make great mechanism for polling constituents' views
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:03:26 GMT

In article <1ja4sjINN5rd@slab.mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
  <stuff censored... err, deleted>
; 
; What's much more important IMHO is that Government data and statistics
; be available to /me/ electronically, and they screwed that up quite
; royally, but that's another story.
; -- 
; Jurgen Botz, jbotz@mtholyoke.edu
; Northampton, MA, USA


Yes, the really interesting thing to do would be to have all government
documents online at the beck and call of your personal computer.  Wow, that
would help people be able to back up what they are saying much more
conveniently.  (I'd like to hear this "story" if it's not TOO depressing)

As for e-mail, first of all I don't forsee a real big increase in the amount
of communication our reps receive if they do make it available (I think the
inhabitants of this net.world are still a pretty small percentage of the
population, and unfortunately, not a good cross section thereof).  But if
it did catch on in a big way, e-mail would become mail given the lowest
priority I would think, since its ease makes it easier to send junk and
in general not well thought out arguments or positions (needless to say :-).
But if that did happen, receiving an old fashioned scribed-on-a-dead-tree
type letter will seem so much more impressive than it does now.  Then THAT
would get their attention.

But e-mail would be great for letting congressman/representatives know how
their constituents feel about any particular issue.  There could be a form you
could send that could be processed automatically.  This would be an excellant
use!

Ben.

-- 
Ben Williams
bew@brahms.udel.edu

               What we got here is a failure to communicate...
From: roussea@server.uwindsor.ca (ROUSSEAU PAUL            )
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp
Subject: Re: Internet Connection to Congress
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:21:02 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

In a recent posting Ronda Hauben (ronda@umcc.ais.org) writes:

This aide seemed to say that their office never heard of email
-- and I've been calling their office for the past 3 weeks 
now and each time I talk with them they tell me that they
have never heard of email.


I was in Washington during the inauguaration and was surprised that
so few people I spoke with knew about Usenet.  So, in a way I can
believe that our politicians and their aides are also uninformed about
Usenet.

Perhaps I restricted myself in the people I connected with in DC and
perhaps many more people know about this service.  I think that
the newspapers have a role to play to get the word out about Unsenet.

Are there any journalist out there who might be interested in picking up
this nobel task?  

The very idea that congressmen and women could be accessed via e-mail
is revolutionary.  Perhaps there are other countries where elected
officials are accessible electronically.

I was successful in convicing an Georgetown University philosophy
professor to get connected to the Internet and once were in touch
I will be able to help her find her way around and hopefully
she can convince other colleagues to get on board as well.


-- 
Paul Rousseau			INTERNET    roussea@server.uwindsor.ca
St. Clair Beach			 "It's too bad ignorance isn't   
Ontario, Canada		                     painful."
							-anonymous
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.edu,soc.culture.usa,alt.activism
From: danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik)
Subject: Re: Email sent to Congress - then stopped (Was Re: Internet Access...)
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:47:43 GMT

In article <shauna.728075883@rothko.mmwb.ucsf.edu> shauna@rothko.mmwb.ucsf.edu (Shauna Farr-Jones) writes:
>danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik) writes:
>
>>  No amount of e-mail access is going to change that.  The only way
>>you're going to get their attention is by working for their political
>>defeat in the next election.
>
>what makes you think that the people who replace them aregoing
>to be any different????

  They may not be, but if that's the case, we're just going to have to
keep trying until we get it right.  Besides, changing politicians is
not the answer to political problems.  Changing the attitudes of the
citizenry is. 

Dan
Xref: sparky alt.amateur-comp:655 comp.edu:2368 soc.culture.usa:10033 alt.activism:21259
From: urkastig@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Robert Kastigar)
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.edu,soc.culture.usa,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Email sent to Congress - then stopped (Was Re: Internet Access...)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:49:11 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

OK, at the suggestion or urging of Ronda and the rest of you
on the net, I sent the following letters today to my two
Senators and my representative in the house.

May I suggest you do the same, or something similar?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

The Honorable Senator Carol Mosley-Braun
United State Senate
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator:

Computers are very much in use today and growing common.  Within
this community there is growing concern or interest in access to
information and ideas from the Federal Government, and from our
elected government officials.  I've enclosed a copy of an article
that appeared recently.  I obtained this copy electronically.  I
wouldn't have come across this information if it wasn't for
electronic access.  

The purpose of this letter is to encourage you to become a part
of this growing community, to support access to information and
ideas via the electronic Internet - a collection of computers
world-wide.

Specifically, I would suggest you do two things:  Support both
ISIS and LEGIS (as described in the enclosed article) and support
legislation similar to what Vice-President Gore sponsored last
term, S-2813.  Secondly, I would encourage you to establish an
electronic mail account so that you can communicate with us about
issues, and that we can communicate with you.  I've written
(electronically) to Doreen Albistron, who is either the
electronic postmaster or associated with your system.  Her name
and address is dalbistro@hr.house.gov.  Most likely there is an
equivalent person of the US Senate as well.

If you are not experienced, comfortable, or knowledgeable about
computer communications, I realize that this seem intimidating,
even radical!  May I make the following offer:

If you, or members of your staff, are in the Chicago area I would
be willing to introduce or train you or your staff in this area. 
I'm not a 'computer expert' (whatever that means) but just a
system user.  I'm an older person, still learning, and currently
going to school and have an account on Illinois Educational
Computing Network, at Northeastern Illinois University.  I also
operate a dial-in "Bulletin Board" system for public access for
my local labor union, IBEW Local 1220.  

I have no idea of your computer literacy.  If you are already
familiar with this communication, then you don't need me.  If you
already have an email account, you can reply to this at my
address: urkastig@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu.  If you don't have an account,
establish one! 


Yours Very Truly,



Bob Kastigar
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,alt.folklore.computers,alt.culture.usenet
From: ronda@ais.org (Ronda Hauben)
Subject: Input Need for Talk on "Usenet News:The Poor Man's Arpanet"
Summary: input needed on evolution usenet news as poor mans arpanet
Keywords: usenet arpanet
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:47:10 GMT



I have proposed the following talk for an upcoming conference of 
education people in Michigan (MACUL or the Michigan Association of 
Computer Users in Learning)

The tentative description is the following:

This session will highlight the origin and development of the international
computer conferencing network, Usenet News, which involves an estimated
3 million people worlwide. The presentation will trace Usenet's 
origin as an electronic newsletter to help computer users find and fix
programming bugs to its current expansion into over 3,000 interactive
newsgroups ranging from amateur computerists to the science of economics.

I have several days to modify the description and I would also
appreciate suggestions or leads for some information or stories, etc.
that might be helpful in presenting the talk.

What I wanted to do is to give some background of the ARPANET
and then show how Usenet was developed as a Poor Man's ARPANET.


     ronda


Xref: sparky alt.amateur-comp:653 soc.culture.usa:10023 alt.activism:21250 comp.misc:4984 news.misc:2188
From: kainen@cs.umd.edu (Paul Kainen)
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.theory,comp.misc
Subject: Re: Is Packet Switching Technology the real secret of the Internet?
Summary: A few words about a very complicated subject
Keywords: economy of scale, throughput, simulation, system design
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:13:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.amateur-comp
Distribution: inet
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

As I understand it, Kleinrock really did three things.  He showed that
by breaking up the messages into packets the network achieves "economy
of scale" and so performs more efficiently.  He also noted that the
lengths of messages entering the various nodes could be treated as if
they were independent random variables for the purposes of simulation,
even though these messages are actually not independent.  Finally,
when the density of traffic on a link exceeds a certain threshold,
which is the <capacity> of the link, then the actual throughput of the
link (or similarly of the network) decreases.  Kleinrock used a combo
of formal analysis via queueing theory, heuristic arguments based on
experience with actual traffic behavior and computer simulation.

A major difficulty with the packet switching approach today is that
the services which are competing for resources are extremely different
in character (size and tolerance for delay or error).  System design
is also made difficult by possible tradeoffs between smart terminals
and transmission bandwidth.  For example, a digital video on demand
network ought to be able to "look ahead" to see that, say, a satellite
transponder will be unavailable for another few dozen milliseconds and
so hold the frame in its buffer.  Finally, conflict resolution among
competing intelligent agents combined with the sheer rate of
technological change have made the job of scaling up the old Arpanet
highly non-trivial.  Maybe someone else can chip in here (oops) with a
description of "Asynchronous Transfer Mode" switching and its relation
to broadband services.  Design is especially difficult since the types
of services which will be using the system are not yet known.  Imagine
trying to design a house and being told at the last minute, "Oh, yes.
We need to accomodate some dolphins, too!"

L. Kleinrock's work is spelled out in a lucid little book,
Communication Nets, McGraw-Hill 1964 and Dover Press 1972. A more
complete reference is Kleinrock's 2 vol Queueing Systems, Wiley, '75
or also see T. Saaty's classic on q'g theory.
From: urkastig@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Robert Kastigar)
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp
Subject: Union Busters
Date: 24 Jan 1993 14:42:16 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Summary: Union boycott fights union-busting

The following message is copied in part from a dial-up
Bulletin Board, for your information:

===========================================================================
 BBS: IBEW Local 1220 --> (708) 292-1223
Date: 01-24-93 (00:45)             Number: 1748
From: TED SAUTTER                  Refer#: NONE
  To: ALL                           Recvd: NO  
Subj: UNION BBS                      Conf: (1) LaborChat
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
On another subject.    Boycotts..

We have a local in the AIW that is currently facing some difficult
challenges.  Local 837, Decatur, IL is currently fighting for their
lives.  Their employer, A.E. Staley, hired union busters and have
implemented contract proposals which has turned back the clock 30 years.

Staley's is owned by Tate & Lyle of England.

I plan to put together more details in the near future.

Anyone interested in more details & a brochure write....

Campaign to fight Union-Buster
c/o AIW Local 837, AFL-CIO
2882 North Dineen
Decatur, IL  62526  USA

I am also interested in the response through BBS, so please mention
where you read it.  Thanks
---
Newsgroups: alt.manga
From: rchan@terapin.com (Ronald Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: The Ghost in the Shell
Date: 20 Jan 93 18:23:54 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <727354818.AA00546@abcbcafe.fidonet.org>,
Scott.Lampman@f1369.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Scott Lampman) writes:
>
>GF>I have seen copies of GitS at:
>
>GF>Kinokinuya Books in San Francisco
>
>GF>(415) 567-7625
>
>     I was there yesterday and they did not have any left.  Sorry.

Have you tried either calling Nikaku or the Kinokuniya in San Jose?  San Jose
Kinokuniya's stock differs from San Francisco.


|| Ronald Chan [rchan@terapin.com    ]
||             [rchan@Spud.Kludge.COM]
||
|| A Pocket Knight  *--{--------------
From: strider@acs.bu.edu (Ivan Huang)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Robotech Fan needs some Info...
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:51:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: strider@acs.bu.edu
From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: 3x3 Eyes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:30:08 GMT

v077nlpx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DAVE) writes:

>Hi
>	I have seen the recent and the old manga (1-3) of 3x3 eyes.   When
>I read them, I was suprised at what was happening.  Seem like they were
>no longer intent on preventing kan-yan-wong (?) from leaving his prison.  
>The current story involves Yakumo going to some MiddleEast Nation.  The local
>warlord there stole an ancient corpse and want to revive it.  Once it has done
>that with the aid of a demon woman(?), the warlord would merge with the revived
>corpse.  My question is, what the heck has been going on between vol 4 to now?
>Could any kind soul send me a brief synposis of what has happen.  It doesn't
>have to be long or be very discriptive.  Thanks in advance.

I want to know too.  I've only seen the Innovation 5 issues,
and the subbed OAVs.

Mail it me, or post?  Please?

LJC, who should be sleepy but isn't

-- 
Lady Johanna Constantine* Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will
tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   * endure when mere facts are dust, and ashes, and
Disclaimer - huh?       * forgot.      -Dream of the Endless (and Neil G.)
LJC of the Net.Trenchcoat.brigade (Hi Elmo ;)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
From: bbs.xanathar@gilligan.tsoft.net (Eric Tsoi)
Subject: Kor Manga
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:02:27 GMT

        If it's not so much trouble could someone send me the KOR Manga 
translations...I know it's too much to ask, but I don't have FTP 
access...If you could just e-mail it to me. Thanks


--
Eric Tsoi (bbs.xanathar@gilligan.tsoft.net)
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: slow.... so
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:10:06 GMT
Organization: studio 3x3 ..... maybe
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

just some random jibberish.  but with vacation coming to an end I'm on the
last leg of my month long manga self orgy.  a few titles I read and liked,
some old, some not so old:

Money Moon (not bad, short and sweet, and ended before it died), Asate Dance
(slowed down after vol.4), Yagami-kun's Family Affair (a blast all the way
to the end.  gets 4.5 stars), and Bokura ha Minna Ikkideiru (We Are Not
Alone.  what can I say, I like Yamamoto Naoki.)

Also on Bear Club, seems Yui Toshiki is making Kirara into a series.
goooooooooood.  I like teaser mangas.

Personal info:  part.b r2 is done.  now having major writer's block for pt.c.


Now back to your regularly scheduled silence......

-- 
                                                                         o
    dmou@orion.acs.uci.edu   ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu   studio 3x3  ^ ^

       .... and just because I'm a fan doesn't mean I'm stupid!!  ^_^
From: scipio@stein.u.washington.edu (Jim Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: questions on terms
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:12:10 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu


I was wondering what 'H' and 'tomino' means?  

Also, this 'Gekinga (3rd Class)' and 'Business' classifications for mangas
mean?


Jim Lee
scipio@u.washington.edu
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu (David Chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Re: 3x3 Eyes
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:50:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Alot.
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

A lot has happened since Innovation's short run of sazan eyes. (synopsis
of compiliations should be floating around on ocf.berkeley.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
From: foxfur@atheling.demon.co.uk (Foxfur the Fluffy)
Reply-To: foxfur@atheling.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.30 $
Organization: The Fox's Den
Subject: None (mail relay)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:20:38 +0000

Hi all

I was wondering of anyone could help me.  I'm looking for a copy of
"Urotsukidoji - Legend of the Overfiend" in the original Japanese.  As
I'm in the UK it would need to be in PAL-UK format.  Bit of a tall order
but if anyone could give me any pointers it would be great.

Foxfur.

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foxfur@atheling.demon.co.uk.                  PGP2.1 key availible on request.

"As you know, we must infiltrate, integrate with humans, as humans, using our 
 superior talents to gain control of their politics, their media of communic-
 ation, their legends, their beliefs, so that, when the time comes, they will 
 have been seduced to the acceptance of the inevitable,  the era of foxes."
                                    William Wharton "Franky Furbo"
From: rksuzuki@hougen.seas.ucla.edu (Richard K. Suzuki)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: Mermaid's Wound
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:27:05 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


	Who else has seen the new collection of Takahashi-sensei's Mermaid
   stories?    I never can catch these in the manga so I'm glad I can see
   them now.  I think Takahashi-sensei must have seen "Home Alone" when she
   did that story with the little boy :)  And we get to see that Mana is
   just as incompetent in the kitchen as Akane or Lum..... 
 
-- 
*******************************************************************************
	Richard Suzuki			           "It's a pity stupidity
	rksuzuki@seas.ucla.edu                 	    isn't painful"
From: v077nlpx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DAVE)
Newsgroups: alt.manga
Subject: 3x3 Eyes
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi
	I have seen the recent and the old manga (1-3) of 3x3 eyes.   When
I read them, I was suprised at what was happening.  Seem like they were
no longer intent on preventing kan-yan-wong (?) from leaving his prison.  
The current story involves Yakumo going to some MiddleEast Nation.  The local
warlord there stole an ancient corpse and want to revive it.  Once it has done
that with the aid of a demon woman(?), the warlord would merge with the revived
corpse.  My question is, what the heck has been going on between vol 4 to now?
Could any kind soul send me a brief synposis of what has happen.  It doesn't
have to be long or be very discriptive.  Thanks in advance.

								dave

	

	In all of mankind's histroy, there has never been more damage
done by people "thought they were doing the right thing."
						- Lucy Van Pelt
							
VAX: v077nlpx@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Unix: plee@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu						
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: pritchet@cs.scarolina.edu (Ronald W. Pritchett)
Subject: Re: Angie Everhart ...
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:29:14 GMT

nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) writes:



>	Could anyone tell me anything about Angie Everhart?  
>	Does anyone have any gif's,tiff's, or anything like that?

>	I have a few gifs that I've made.

Post 'em! I'd really like to have her pic from the SI desk calender 93. The
pics from the weeks of March 14, April 18, June 6, & August 22 are great.
June 6 is my fav. ;)

Somebody scan 'em!

Ron

ps. unfortunately I don't know anything about her.

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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Cindy Crawford Playboy Issue?!?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:24:24 GMT


Could someone please tell me the date of the issue of Playboy Cindy
Crawford was in?  I've gotta find it.
 
And also, the issues any other supermodel has appeared in..
 
Thanks much!
 

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: air@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: the cindy.jpg
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 15:27:33 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)


The cindy thing cc000.jpg doen't seem to work.  You cannot decode it back ro a
jpg file again. Can anyone tell me what the problem is??


---
Chris Chow             Toronto, Ont. CANADA
air@cibbs.UUCP         "...cough...cough....clean air anyone?"
uunorth!cibbs!air
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: mdmnh@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Martin Hicks)
Subject: Re: Cosmopolitan Feb 93
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:51:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.151923.1336@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, Gabe Babe writes:
> 
> Hi, I'm just wondering who that model is on the cover of the newest issue
> of Cosmopolitan (Feb 93).  I'm too embarassed to buy it or read it to find
> out.  So could someone be kind enough to enlighten me on this?


Don't be a wimp. Just buy the bloody thing!

Martin:)
From: cbar110@ccsun.strath.ac.uk 
Subject: Re: kic-001.jpg  [1/1]
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:24:26 GMT


 Do you have the full size gif of the picture 5th from the left
 on the bottom row of kic-001.jpg. If so please post it or e_mail
 it to me
 
 Thanks 
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels