From: vreddy@pappus.uucp (Venkatesh Reddy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:03:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Aug19.200337.27040
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <1992Aug19.152742.20880@gvl.unisys.com> dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.173259.1236@das.harvard.edu> vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy) writes:
>>
>>Are you a system 7 user? at all? ever played with it extensively? Except for a
>>few minor memory management errors which almost never surface, system 7 is
>>definitely better. Yes it's bigger, but it's also better... definitely NOT slower.
>>It has helped me optimize my performance on my IIci much more than system 6 ever
>>could. More complex? Sure it is... but that's because it is more versatile and
>>flexible... But, unless you plan to root around in the OS assembly code, which
>>I find highly improbable, then system 7 is NOT at a disadvantage to system 6,
>>and in fact, I think the advatages of 7 over 6 FAR FAR outweigh the disadvantages
>>(if there are any).
>
>Hey, calm down!
>
>Yes, I use System 7 every day.  I have since it came out.  My posting
>was in response to someone who thought that System 7 is Better In
>Every Way.  I simply pointed out that:
>
>|> System 7 is
>|>    - bigger,
>|>    - slower,
>|>    - more complex.
>
>Do you want to argue with "bigger"?  Check your "About this Macintosh"
>Apple menu item.  Or just count your installation disks.
>
>Do you want to argue with "slower"?  I have both a 16MHz LC running
>System 6.0.8 with Finder, and a 20MHz IIsi running System 7.0/TuneUp
>7.1.1.  The LC is clearly the faster of the two.  Do you do such a
>side-by-side comparison every day?

I HAVE run both 6.07 and 7.0/7.1.1 on my IIci, and the 7.0/7.1.1 was
definitely faster... I never argued with size though... I know it's
bigger... The speed was one of the main things that converted me...
I was skeptical of system 7 at first, like many...

>
>Do you want to argue with "more complex"?  It enforces the MultiFinder
>paradigm.  Finder menus have more things in them.  Changing file names
>is much tricker.  It has aliases.  Typing into a modal dialog behaves
>differently if there is a selection list present.  My daughter hates
>it.
>

I KNOW it's more complex, but that is NOT a disadvantage... in fact,
the "complexities" that you point out, as well as the many others 
that exist, are what makes system 7 so neat to me... my versatility is
your complexity... :)

>I refuse to get into a religious war over which is better (if you read
>carefully you will have noticed that I did not state an opinion on
>the matter), but I do get irritated by fanatics who have found the One
>True Way and who get upset whenever anyone sees things differently.
>
>-- 
>And the President put his hand on my shoulder and said: "Dan, 
>I _knew_ Spiro Agnew.  He was a friend of mine.  And Dan...  
>You're no Spiro Agnew!"
>                -- Vice President Dan Quayle pwd


PS: Parodn my sounding rather inflammatory before... I was having
perhaps the worst day so far in my short, but event-filled life... 
No hard feelings... :)

-- Venk Reddy --