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From: cckidj@kurho.uta.fi (Kimmo Djupsjobacka)
Newsgroups: sfnet.tapahtumat
Subject: Tampereen yliopiston hypermedialaboratorion avajaiset
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:27:48 GMT
Distribution: sfnet
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

Tampereen yliopistolle on perustettu hypermedialaboratorio.

Laboratorion tarkoituksena on
1) tarjota yliopistolaisille mahdollisuus hypermediasovellusten valmistamiseen,
2) toimia hypermediakirjallisuuden ja -sovellusten "lukusalina",
3) tukea hypermediaan liittyvaa tutkimusta,
4) antaa hypermediaan liittyvaa opetusta,
5) tarjota myos maksullista palvelua yliopiston ulkopuolelle (kurssit ja 
   projektit).


Laboratorion AVAJAISET ovat yliopiston avajaisten yhteydessa maanantaina
7.9.1992 klo.14.00-16.00. Laboratorio sijaitsee yliopiston paarakennuksessa
huoneessa D114 (alakuppilan alla oleva kerros).

AVOINTEN OVIEN PAIVA on maanantaina 21.9.1992 klo. 9.00-16.00.


Kaikki kiinnostuneet ovat tervetulleita!

Kerro asiasta muillekin!


Kimmo Djupsjvbacka

Xref: sparky milw.general:280 wi.general:161
From: ldg@lime.ems.com
Newsgroups: milw.general,wi.general
Subject: JOB: Part-time coordinator
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:53:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: lime.1992Aug27.125350.307
Organization: Effective Management Systems - Milwaukee,  WI

Effective Management Systems, (EMS) a developer of manufacturing
and distribution software has an opening for a

CUSTOMER SUPPORT CALL COORDINATOR - Responsible for taking initial
messages from clients and entering accurate information into our
computerized call tracking system for the technical reps.

Report to : Customer Support Manager
Date Available: Immediately
Work Schedule: Part-Time (20 hours) 1:00 pm to 5:00 pm M-F

Experience/Skill Requirements:

     -    Experience working in a business environment
     -    Good communication and customer service skills
     -    Positive, professional and service skills
     -    Creative and intuitive approach to problem solving
     -    Ability to take and organize accurate messages from
          customers
     -    Good typing skills
     -    Word processing skills
     -    Some basic knowledge of computers

Responsibilities Include:

     -    Work with entire Customer Support Department, providing
          link between Customers and Technical Staff by accurately
          recording technical information on call logs
     -    Categorize, prioritize and track calls taken
     -    Generate and distribute various reports using Powerhouse
          and Wordperfect
     -    Develop knowledge to handle Support calls.

This is considered an entry position for the right canidate to grow
and advance into a technical position within the department.  

If you are interested in applying for this job or know of another 
individual who might be qualified for this position, please SEND
a resume or inquiries to:

Lee Gertsch 
Effective Management Systems
12000 West Park Place
Milwaukee, WI 53224
(414) 359-9012 FAX

Email address: ldg@lime.ems.com
Xref: sparky milw.general:281 wi.general:162
From: ldg@lime.ems.com
Newsgroups: milw.general,wi.general
Subject: JOB: Technical Support
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:59:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: lime.1992Aug27.125920.308
Organization: Effective Management Systems - Milwaukee,  WI

Effective Management Systems, (EMS) a developer of manufacturing
and distribution software has an opening for a

CUSTOMER SUPPORT APPLICATION SPECIALIST - is a position for an 
experienced Customer Support Application Specialist in the 
Accounting and Financial areas.  This person should have the 
qualifications listed below.

Report to : Customer Support Manager
Date Available: Immediately
Work Schedule: Full-Time 

Experience/Skill Requirements:

     o    Minimum 1 year experience with Accounting Concepts
          (Accounts Payable, Accounts Receivable, Payroll, and
          General Ledger)
     o    Experience with EMS or MCBA software
     o    Exposure to DEC Operating Systems (VMS or SCO-UNIX)
     o    Ability to read DIBOL or Synergy DBL code
     o    Experience working in Manufacturing (Optional)
     o    Good communication and customer service skills
     o    Positive, professional and service skills
     o    Creative and intuitive approach to problem solving
     o    Willing to work independently and in a team environment

Responsibilities Include:

     o    Customer Telephone Support of EMS Applications
     o    Interface with Q/A on resolving current release software
          problems
     o    Testing, recreating and documenting customer reporting of
          software problems (All releases)
     o    Involvement in testing of future releases    


If you are interested in applying for this job or know of another
individual who might be qualified for this position, please SEND
a resume or inquiries to:

Lee Gertsch
Effective Management Systems
12000 West Park Place
Milwaukee, WI 53224
(414) 359-9012 FAX

Email address: ldg@lime.ems.com
From: Gregg.Lukomski@mixcom.mixcom.com (Gregg.Lukomski)
Newsgroups: milw.general
Subject: Local Siggraph Chapter
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:53:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Aug27.005305.24506
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.


	At Siggraph last month, the local chapter HQ informed me that there
was interest in forming a local Milwaukee Siggraph chapter.  Whatever became
of this?  If anyone knows who is working on this, please Email me that
person's name and phone #. I'd like to get involved, be it as a member or in
some organizational position...


-- 
       ________________________________________________________________
                             "Cyber-MacGyver"
       ________________________________________________________________
        Gregg Lukomski                       gregg.lukomski@mixcom.com
From: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Newsgroups: milw.general
Subject: Fantasticon?
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:22:54 GMT
Reply-To: acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron)
Distribution: milw
Organization: Lightning Systems, Inc.

I was wondering if anyone knows when the next 'Fantasticon' is going to be.

I'm looking for several movie posters.

I was to one such sale about 1 year ago at the Burhnum (sp?) Bowl on 60th St.

I don't think that all the shows are called 'Fantasticon', but I'm looking
for a gathering of movie collectables for sale.

If anyone knows of an up-coming event, please post, or send e-mail.

Thanks,
-- 
Ron                      | Lightning Systems, INC. | Apple // Forever!
acct069@carroll1.cc.edu  | (414) 363-4282  62megs  | Van Halen Rules! 
carroll1!acct069@uwm.edu | 14.4k HST/V.32bis       | Bill & Ted are cool!
From: pete@introl.introl.com (Pete Ikusz)
Newsgroups: milw.jobs
Subject: Re: Full time position available (Tech/Programming)
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:11:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: introl.1992Aug26.001132.18961
Distribution: milw
Organization: Introl Corp.

In article <1992Aug25.140955.42747@introl.introl.com> I wrote:
>			Introl Corp.
>			Attn: Peter Ikusz
>			9220 W. Horard Ave.

There is a slight typo, the address is :
			9220 W. Howard Ave
Regards,
-Pete
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------
Pete Ikusz	Introl Corporation	pete@introl.com
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Caller ID
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:20:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1699
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon

[]

	"And this is the important point that most seem to have missed.
	If you have an unlisted number, you won't be in any of the
	reverse directories."

You won't be in a directory printed by a phone company.  There's an
excellent chance you'll be in a private directory, if you ever gave
your home number to a large merchant.  Check out the "criss-cross"
books at a public library.  It's appalling how many "unlisted" numbers
appear there.

	"All these battered women's shelters and court employees need
	to have is an unlisted number."

Obviously a women's shelter must have a listed number so that battered
women can find it.  So now we're faced with putting a second, unlisted
phone line in the shelter, just to make this scenario work.  Women's
shelters are shoestring operations -- this isn't going to fly.  But
per-line blocking is adequate here -- *if* it doesn't add to the
monthly bill.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: michaelh@endeavor18.tek.com (Michael Herbert)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Room For Rent: Close-in SE PDX
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:09:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1648
Reply-To: michaelh@orca.wv.tek.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

*****  Please note:  Do not respond to me -- I'm posting for a friend *****

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I live in an old home with a small but enjoyable yard, a friendly porch,
and a big bedroom I want to rent.  It is a two bedroom duplex; living room,
formal dining room, large kitchen, ok bathroom.

Very close to grocery store and #15 bus line.

I want $250 rent plus half of the utilities.  There is an opportunity to
do some chores in exchange for a bit of the rent.

Would prefer a woman, non-smoker, and must be bird positive.

Available Immediately.  

If interested, do call Carisa 239-5274.
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: digitally encrypted communications (was deadlock on Caller ID)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:50:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1685
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon

<<<	"Just don't use a portable/cellular phone.  Or, get one that is
<<<	digitally encrypted."
<< Specify manufacturer and model, please?  I've been looking, and haven't
<< found one that's available other than to government spooks.
< Just use a normal scrambler with the cell phone. 

Well, sure -- if everybody with whom you want a private conversation
also has a scrambler.  That doesn't solve the stated problem.  What
you'd really like is a scrambling technology that's supported by your
cellular provider, so that clear speech goes out over the landline, but
there's no such offering in the Portland area.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: warren@homer.ds.boeing.com
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Getting Online...
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:07:48 GMT
Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group

I will be soon departing the Boeing Company to work for a small civil 
engineering consulting firm in Federal Way.  Unfortunately, the new company
is not on the network, but since I'll be "in charge" of their computer
operation, I should have the ability to get them hooked up.

They have a couple Micorvax 3100's and a whole bunch of PC's running Pathworks.
Ideally, what I'd like to be able to do is connect up to some node via
modem (perhaps running DECUS UUCP?) to get NEWS and send/receive mail.  Has
anyone had experience doing this?  What are the names of some local services
that I can contact (i.e. pay) for this service?  Any help will be greatly 
appreciated.

Please reply directly to me at my E-Mail address since I may not have time to
read any responses.  My last day here will be 9/10... PLEASE HURRY!!!

Thanks!





Warren Kring              warren@homer.ds.boeing.com    ___ ___ ___ ___     ___
VAX System Manager    ..uw-beaver!ssc-vax!homer!warren /__//  //__  /  /\ //  _
P.O. Box 3999, M/S 87-66   -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-    /__//__//__ _/_ /  //__/
Seattle, WA  98124  USA         (206) 773-3418          Defense & Space Group

Xref: sparky pnw.general:1976 seattle.general:2846
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: pnw.general,seattle.general
Subject: Re: CALLER ID
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:14:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Aug30.141454.18893
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com (David Butler) writes:

>   Despite the "harrasing phone calls will be made from phone booths"
>argument someone has already made the statistics that in test areas
>that harrasing calls go down by around 50% when caller id is implemented.

Not in "test areas". Caller ID is not new. It's been available in some
states for several *years* now. US West may be testing it, but it's been
available from other phone companies for some time. 

-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: CALLER ID
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:49:01 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon

[]

	"There has been truly mass hysteria against caller ID, claiming
	that ... husbands of abused women could get the secret phone
	number of the battered women's shelter (*WHY* would she be
	calling him?????)."

It's an approach-avoidance thing.  My sister-in-law experienced this
syndrome.  She had to take the kids and get out of the house, but then
she felt that she had to call (from her motel) and explain her actions
to her husband.  The husband did, in fact, demand to know where she was
calling from, and she wouldn't tell.  Then he asked to speak to the
kids, and they wouldn't tell either.

If he'd had caller-ID, the story would have been different.  And
per-call blocking wouldn't have helped -- this woman is non-technical
even during calm times.

	"I've concluded that it's a smokescreen for some other reason
	that the antis don't want to disclose."

No, it's a straight up-and-down move to counter the targeted marketing
plans that many companies are developing.  When a business gets your
phone number, they have a common key to use in consolidating personal
information from a variety of sources.  (Not a great key, but a usable
key nonetheless.)  One not atypical scenario is that you call a mail
order business and their computers decide, based on your credit history
and other factors, what approach to take in dealing with you to
maximize their revenue.  They may decide not to accept orders from
"risky" customers.  For well-heeled folks, they may kick off a sequence
of follow-up calls, even if you don't do business with them on that
first call.

[Discussions of these approaches are printed from time to time in the
Wall Street Journal.]

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: digitally encrypted communications (was deadlock on Caller ID)
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 14:49:49 GMT

andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner) writes:

>	"Just don't use a portable/cellular phone.  Or, get one that is
>	digitally encrypted."

>Specify manufacturer and model, please?  I've been looking, and haven't
>found one that's available other than to government spooks.

Just use a normal scrambler with the cell phone. 
-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Washington State Patrol's `cellular listening center'
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:43:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1695
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon

[]

	"... perhaps existing enforcement of drunk driving laws is
	considered effective relative to cost and that an informed,
	rational decision weighing social benefits against financial
	and social cost of recruiting everyone with a cellular phone
	into vigilante law enforcement effort was made."

Nonsense.  Is it "vigilante law enforcement" to form a neighborhood
watch group and call when you see a prowler?

When drivers begin to arm themselves and to take unilateral action
against other drivers, then the term "vigilante" will be appropriate.
Harlan Ellison wrote a dead-on science fiction story around this theme.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
Newsgroups: pnw.general,rec.food.drink
From: David Ruggiero <osiris@polari.online.comi>
Subject: Re: Exploding wine warning
Reply-To: David Ruggiero <osiris@polari.online.com>
Organization: Seattle Online (polari)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:58:51 GMT

merlyn@romulus.reed.edu (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:

>	   French Creek Cellars (Washington State)
>	   1990 Muscat Cannelli

>Are you sure that isn't "Musket"?

Yes, it is. In fact, it's "Musket Cannon-elli".  :)

[Sorry. Couldn't stop myself.]

David
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Friends want to adopt a baby
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:35:06 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

markmc@sierra.com (Mark McWiggins) writes:

> PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT. I'm posting this for a friend, who
> wants her notice to read as follows:
> 
>                   We'd Love to Adopt a Baby!
> 
> Loving, financially secure couple will provide much joy, opportunities for
> growth & education and lots of hugs & kisses for this newborn. Please call
> us to discuss an adoption plan that assures you this child will know what
> a loving choice you made. Approved home study.
> 
>                 Betsy & Norm 206-839-5137
>                 Attorney, Michelle Hinz:
>                   206-682-4000 days
>                   206-735-0928 eves/weekends
>                   collect calls accepted

Not that it may change much, but this very ad was discussed at length
in other usenet newsgroups. It seems that this ad is not from a couple
named Betsy and Norm, but instead it's an agency which makes a profit
by locating adoptable babies.

The discussions I read included some people who'd followed up on the
ad, and discovered that there is no compensation for the parents who
give up the child (save attorney fees for an adoption action), but the
adoptive parent candidates pay a finder fee to "Betsy and Norm."

These ads were posted on college campuses all over the country, and a
few were apparently placed in other places where young adults frequented.

Some of the complaints that were posted about the agency included racial 
overtones --however I hasten to add that this is hearsay (rumor).

Just FYI.
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: digitally encrypted communications (was deadlock on Caller ID)
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:52:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1675
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon

[]

	"Just don't use a portable/cellular phone.  Or, get one that is
	digitally encrypted."

Specify manufacturer and model, please?  I've been looking, and haven't
found one that's available other than to government spooks.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
Xref: sparky pnw.general:1972 seattle.general:2842
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: pnw.general,seattle.general
Subject: Re: CALLER ID
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:40:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Aug30.134022.18127
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

>One of the reasons that the
>phone company is dragging it's feet is NOT the lobby against the service.
>Instead, it's the very valid reasons why caller id shouldn't be made
>widely available which they're looking at.

It is *highly* unlikely that that is a reason, given that Caller ID has
been available for *years* in some states.

-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
From: markmc@sierra.com (Mark McWiggins)
Subject: Friends want to adopt a baby
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
Distribution: pnw
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:02:08 GMT

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT. I'm posting this for a friend, who
wants her notice to read as follows:

                  We'd Love to Adopt a Baby!

Loving, financially secure couple will provide much joy, opportunities for
growth & education and lots of hugs & kisses for this newborn. Please call
us to discuss an adoption plan that assures you this child will know what
a loving choice you made. Approved home study.

                Betsy & Norm 206-839-5137
                Attorney, Michelle Hinz:
                  206-682-4000 days
                  206-735-0928 eves/weekends
                  collect calls accepted



-- 
Mark McWiggins           +1 206 822 5200x377 days      Box 31356
markmc@sierra.com        +1 206 632 1905 24 hrs.       Seattle WA 98103-1356

Newsgroups: pnw.general,seattle.general
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: CALLER ID
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Organization: University of Washington
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:15:42 GMT

I have been waiting for caller ID service for a long time, and the ACLU's
position against it is one reason why I don't support the ACLU.  There has
been truly mass hysteria against caller ID, claiming that it will let
businesses get your unlisted phone number (the fact is, 800 numbers have had
caller ID for a long time...) or that husbands of abused women could get the
secret phone number of the battered women's shelter (*WHY* would she be
calling him?????).

I've concluded that it's a smokescreen for some other reason that the antis
don't want to disclose.

Tracy's question about why the public should pay for this feature is easier to
answer.  It's good old --> liberal <-- policy, and one that is hard to argue
against.  The argument goes that telephone service is a general public need
that should be provided to everyone without regard to the actual cost to the
telephone company.  It doesn't matter that it costs US West $20,000 to bring
out a line so you have dial tone in your cabin 20 miles from the nearest
telephone phone; you pay the same `installation charge' as people in the city
do.

Now you know why city people pay an outrageous $60 to `install' a new line
when in fact the cost to US West to do so is much less.  It isn't US West's
greed; it's that city people are subsidizing rural service.

This applies to services offered by the telephone company as well.  The
telephone company can NOT offer a `free' service unless this service is
available to everyone.  This is why touch-tone dialing cost an extra fee for
25 years even though it cost the telephone company less money to service tones
than rotary.  The extra fees paid for the equipment upgrades to those areas
which didn't support tone dialing.  When everything was converted, tone
dialing surcharges were abolished.

Caller ID, when available, will not be available in all areas.  There is also
a cost in terms of equipment to provide this service.  It is quite difficult
to justify making caller ID free (meaning the cost would be paid by all users
via higher general rates) as opposed to being paid for by its users.

The extra charge for unlisted numbers was justified in that it entailed
greater overhead for directory assistance service.  Now that directory
assistance is no longer a free service, it may be time to review the charges.

Newsgroups: pnw.general,seattle.general