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From: cotera@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: "Jehovah" TRIBE OF SPACE CANNIBALS
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:46:18 GMT

In article <YemWWD200iUxE7PlFO@andrew.cmu.edu>, ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Karl Witte) writes:
> I'm sure we all agree that your post was wonderfully humorous and
> insightful and must have taken you a long time to research and write. 
> Now can you put it somewhere else?  What the hell does this have to do
> with abortion?

Not much, but what does abortion have to do with talk.rumors?
--Ray Cote
From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:02:12 GMT
Reply-To: craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com


morgan@sitka.triumf.ca (Morgan Burke) writes:
> "Jason E. Troilo" <jt3z+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> |> That message is absolutely absurd. If Russia had such technology at that
> |> point in time, they certainly would have used it more effectively
> |> against the United States. The TRUTH is that Russia's failure to keep up
> |> with the West technologically speeded the decline of the "Evil Empire."
> 
> Make that "failure to keep up with the West economically".  In fact the
> Soviet space program was highly advanced, and was thought to be ten years
> ahead of the US program *before* the Challenger accident.  The Soviets
> were apparently making up to 10 times the number of space launches as the 
> USA when both programs were in full swing.

This is true. As Americans, tho, we don't like to think about it,
and Soviet space activities never got much press by the US media.
I guess most people figured we caught up and surpassed them after
the furor inspired by Sputnik. No cigar. I guess it's one of the
(few) good things about the old-style Soviet government that it 
allowed massive resources to directed into their space program.

Anybody offhand happen to know what the record is for time spent
in orbit? (hint: it's not held by an American)

Craig
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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Slick Willie & the KGB
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:24:24 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


In article <1992Oct5.182935.18317@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes:
> 
>      Anyone hear about a story in the Washington Post about Bill Clinton and
> the KGB?
> 
>      Evidently, in 1970 when Bill was in England he toured Europe- and one of
> his stops was the Soviet Union. His escort around Moscow in their limo? The
> KGB. The KGB attempted to recruit the young Clinton to be an anti-war organizer
> in the U.S. when he returned.
> 
>      This was reported by Richard Dorrin (sp?) of California, and was in
> Sunday's Washington Post.

Wasn't this story in the Washington Times, not the Post?
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: talk.rumors,alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: Latest rumors
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:19:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.181030.3340@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
donnell@orca.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

|>I bet somebody is Kidding. Walt might have enough vision to subsidize
John K.,
|>but the timid little boys running Disney now are too afraid of losing their
|>jobs to touch anything controversial, seems to me.
|>
|>All my own scrawny little opinions....
|>
|>					--Judex--
|>

well hello judex,  I must disagree with you once again(no this isn't a
personal thing, just a difference of opinion).  A local rap-o-rock-o-hip-
hop-o band from Dallas was signed to a new record label under Disney.
These guys are not typical Disney clean.  In fact the lead singer/percussionist
has been known to strip during a show and pour chocolate syrup liberally on 
his body.  On of their first local singles was titled
'f**k more bitch less'.  Not too puritanical for a Disney label.

The band is 'Billygoat'.  Look for it near your missing R&S episodes.
                      
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Maurice LaBiche   |   labiche@bnr.ca 
Organization: Doctoral student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 20:12:08 -0400 
From: Lawrence Curcio <lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: MCelwre may not be sane

Really? The renegade space cannibal theory explains an awful lot of
stuff in *my* life, and it's no harder to accept than half the stuff the
nuns used ta tell me! I'd even join the church if we got to take Mondays
off.

-Larry (Only a Messenger) C.


Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: charlie@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Charlie Channel)
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Organization: Stanford U
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:43:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.160212.3521@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>Anybody offhand happen to know what the record is for time spent
>in orbit? (hint: it's not held by an American)
>
>Craig

Sure.  I was loaded for 3 years in Venice, CA one time.  Far out.

C


Newsgroups: talk.rumors,alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Latest rumors
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:37:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.201927.20331@bnr.ca> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.181030.3340@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
>donnell@orca.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>
>|>I bet somebody is Kidding. Walt might have enough vision to subsidize
>John K.,
>|>but the timid little boys running Disney now are too afraid of losing their
>|>jobs to touch anything controversial, seems to me.
>|>
>|>All my own scrawny little opinions....
>|>
>|>					--Judex--
>|>
>
>well hello judex,  I must disagree with you once again(no this isn't a
>personal thing, just a difference of opinion).  A local rap-o-rock-o-hip-
>hop-o band from Dallas was signed to a new record label under Disney.
>These guys are not typical Disney clean.  In fact the lead singer/percussionist
>has been known to strip during a show and pour chocolate syrup liberally on 
>his body.  On of their first local singles was titled
>'f**k more bitch less'.  Not too puritanical for a Disney label.
>
>The band is 'Billygoat'.  Look for it near your missing R&S episodes.
>                      
>--------------------------------------
>Maurice LaBiche   |   labiche@bnr.ca 

I don't think that the actions of some unrelated subsidiary <record label?>
really reflect the actions of the home company. With the exception of
"Beauty and the Beast", their output of the last 5 years has been horrible.
Yes, I thought the "Little Mermaid" was poorly animated and underconcieved.
"Newsies" deserved it's painful death at the Box Office, and I can't think
of anything that DISNEY <not the over-sensitve spinoff, Touchstone> has
done that wazs worth a damn, except for "Beauty and The Beast". And now,
the home company is busy re-editing "Fantasia", according to all reports.

Don Bluth was the last real visionary they had at Disney. He split, and
has been making somewhat interesting, but very derivative, Disney-style 
toon's since.

I really doubt that John K. would be able to get away with much at Disney.

As for "Beauty and The Beast". It was gorgeous, and I liked it, but the songs
Disney cranks out these days are so generic. Ah, for the days of the 
Sherman Brothers doing Disney's music....

grumblegrumblegrumble

					--Judex--
From: lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lawrence Curcio)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: NSA greps the net?
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:30:39 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

The NSA began to grep the net after they discovered that some of us were
sending secret messages in Rot-13. I understand they can decode it now.

-Anonymous
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: bobd@marune.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob DeBula)
Subject: Re: birthday greeting
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:19:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.125028.14653@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 17158DA@MSU writes:
>I'm not sure if this is the correct bulletin board for this request, but
>since I like this board the best, here goes.  My friend and coworker, Kel,
>(he's a guy) is having a birthday this Saturday, and he would get a
>kick if you sent him a birthday greeting.  Send it to:
>17158ku@msu.edu
>You can send it anytime starting now.  Thanks for being sports!


Remember:  Sports don't let sports post drunk! :-)

-- 
==========================================================================
              Disclaimer: These are my views, not the U's

        "If it's in the paper it must be true!" --- D. Doright
From: bulwinkl@stein.u.washington.edu (In Cognito)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: A return to slavery?!!
Summary: Weed & Seed; Enterprise Zones; forced labor
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:13:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	Slavery in the U.S. AGAIN!!??

	Boy am I pissed.  *All* of the candidates support
"Enterprise Zones" - even Clinton.  I'm not surprised at
the other two...

	In case you haven't heard the grimy details, the
plan is to make "those" people work for a sub-minimum wage.
Making sausages or shoes or license plates or whatever.
The taxpayers will foot the bill for the increased police
presence necessary to ensure that the factories have their
supply of cheap labor: in other words, our tax dollars are
being spent to force people to work for less than the
minimum wage.  Considering that "welfare" is only available
if you are (a) pregnant, (b) a mother, or (c) on social security
it's not that difficult to force poor people to work for next
to nothing.  Even food stamps are only worth about $60 a month
- not enough to live on!  Since civil rights legislation has
been gutted it's more difficult for poor minorities to overcome
discrimination, and the "drug war" fights ghetto free enterprise.  ;-)
I can just see how profitable all those minority businesses will
be when their former clients are too poor (earning $16 a day)
to afford haircuts or cars or tupperware.  As if people were
making too much already at their fast food jobs!

	These "Enterprise Zones" would be policed under federal
jurisdiction - so the unfortunate youth caught peddling
marijuana would face Bush's anti-habeas-corpus pro-death-penalty
legal cronies.  One can just imagine what would happen if one
of "those" people were caught - gasp! - owning a *gun*!!!

	Oh, goody.  Now we can watch our tax dollars at work,
as the ghettos go the same route that our federal forests did.
(What does a clear-cut ghetto look like?  Would they have to put
up barbed wire and dig mass graves??)

	If that's not scary enough, let me point out to you
rascists out there, that if factories can get people in the US
to work for peanuts, anybody that works for a living is going to
find their wages going waaaaay down.  And, this isn't restricted
to "those" dark-skinned people.  Anybody who really needs a job
is affected by this.

	Apologies for the lack of verbatim references.  I have
requested some, but they are in the mail.
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: bwood@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (William Wood)
Subject: Re: KGB
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.110044.28543@ousrvr.oulu.fi>, mep@phoenix (Marko Poutiainen) writes...
> 
>I would like to hear the latest news of KGB. I heard it doesn't exist
>any more, but what happened to the workers etc ?
>And is there a better group for this letter ? e.g. alt.politics.kgb ?
>--
>***********************************************************************
>* 'Howl howl gargle howl gargle howl howl howl gargle howl gargle howl* 
>*  howl gargle gargle howl gargle gargle gargle howl slurrp uuuurgh'  *
>*					-Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz       *
>***********************************************************************
>	-Marko Poutiainen
>	 mep@phoenix.oulu.fi
>Here's alittle trivia for the person wanting to know about the KGB. I
>was in Russia (with other University students) in March.  Amoungst 
>our group members, were a couple of guys bent and determined to "get
>in" and "check-out" the KGB.  This, especially when they heard (over
>here prior t trip) that the KGB was offering tours of their facility
>in Moscow.  When the guys broke-away from the rest of us (on tour),
>they went to the KGB headquarters to not only find out that they ex-
>isted, but the KGB guys wanted to "hold them for questioning, for
>suspicious reasons".  Needless to say, I got a great laugh from this.
>but those poor guys had the wits scared out of them.  It seemed that
>those 'soldiers' of the KGB were 'selling tickets' to the dumb Ameri-
>cans, who got suckered-in on that rumor (that they too heard, but 
>didn't start).  The tickets cost $60.00 .  Those boys paid, but got
>only a ticket to the cell that they were to occupy.  After the
>Russians had their 'kick' they let them go (with warnings). etc...
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: williamf@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: Dinah Shore...history.
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:19:10 GMT

}Another case involved Dinah Shore several years ago and her attempt to
}sue her mother (unsuccessfully) for not telling her that she had black
}ancestry, when she (Dinah) and her white husband had a Black baby.

   I read the above in another newsgroup.  Can anyone furnish any details
   about this:  specifically is it true?  Seems rather unbelieveable to me.
   If it is true 1/ would you know *why* she was upset w/ her mother and 
   2/ would you know any book that details this story?
                Stay  Easy__
                  TheBigBopper
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 16:23:56 -0400 
From: Nathan Lee Segerlind <ns2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System

   Hoo boy.  Ever notice how the more important something is [sic] THE
MORE BIG LETTERS THEY USE?

    Was that SOME KIND OF JOKE???

Nate SEGERLIND
vote LIBERTARIAN

Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: morgan@sitka.triumf.ca (Morgan Burke)
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Organization: TRIUMF, Vancouver BC
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:19:18 GMT

In article <MeoqCty00WBLA79lR5@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Jason E. Troilo" <jt3z+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> That message is absolutely absurd. If Russia had such technology at that
|> point in time, they certainly would have used it more effectively
|> against the United States. The TRUTH is that Russia's failure to keep up
|> with the West technologically speeded the decline of the "Evil Empire."

Make that "failure to keep up with the West economically".  In fact the
Soviet space program was highly advanced, and was thought to be ten years
ahead of the US program *before* the Challenger accident.  The Soviets
were apparently making up to 10 times the number of space launches as the 
USA when both programs were in full swing.

As far as Soviet SDI, there was a report in a British aerospace newsmagazine
(Aviation & Space Technology Week, maybe) of a US military satellite being
destroyed by Soviet ground-launched anti-satellite missiles, about 5 or 6 
years ago I think.

Of course, these are substantiated reports involving known technologies, and
in no way give any credibility to Mr. McElwaine's diatribe.

-- Morgan Burke (morgan@reg.triumf.ca)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: brennan@merk.com (Rich Brennan)
Subject: Re: "Jehovah" TRIBE OF SPACE CANNIBALS
Organization: Technology Partners, Inc.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:55:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.104334.1@woods.ulowell.edu> cotera@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.190856.1426@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>>[much nonsense deleted]
>> 
>>                                    Robert E. McElwaine
>>                                    B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
>
>[point by point rebuttal to nonsense deleted]
>
>Are you by any chance Islamic?
>--Ray Cote


No, I believe he's f*cking insane, as you are to make such a comment. You
might want to find out if Rushdie has a spare bedroom :-).



Rich
-- 
brennan@merk.com	...!uunet!merk!brennan		Rich Brennan
From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.flame,alt.fan.kevin-darcy
Subject: Re: Roe v. Wade (was Re: That Responsibility Thing, Take 2
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:33:59 GMT
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery

In article <1992Oct13.201412.13044@ncsu.edu>, dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu
(Doug Holtsinger) wrote:
> 
> In article <lefty-131092103350@lefty.apple.com> 
> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
> 
> >dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes: 
> 
> >> A person who laughs when women are placed in such horrible circumstances
> >> might be accused of being a misogynist.  
> 
> > Mr. Cochran is not laughing at women "placed in...horrible circumstances,"
> > you nitwit.
> >
> > He's laughing at _you_.
> 
> Cochran quite clearly states that he had been "laughing at this line...",
> not that he had been "laughing at me...".  That line wasn't funny or
> dumb, and only a very sick person would laugh when women are placed
> in such horrible circumstances.  

He's clearly laughing at the line which _you_ wrote.  Understandably so,
since it's a ridiculous allegation.  Just like your various "misogyny"
allegations.  Just like your "rusty nail" allegations.

Just like, well, just about everything you write.

I don't doubt for an instant that you have a sincere desire to further your
cause.  I can't help but wonder whether looking like an idiot in public is
the best way to go about it.

--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
From: sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Hey!   Steve Novak!
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:58:17 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct16.180711.8713@jetsun.weitek.COM> nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf) writes:
#In article <1992Oct16.014238.7081@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> smgarvin@nyx.cs.du.edu (susan garvin) writes:

##I wanna.  Now, get on with the acceptance speeches.

#OK.
#
#I love my flag, I do, I do, Which waves upon the breeze.
#I also love my arms and legs and neck and nose and knees
#
#One little shell could spoil them all and give them such a twist,
#That they would be of no use to me, I guess I won't enlist.
#
#			- Wobbly song, circa WWI

Wow.  Nadja takes an early lead in next year's contest.

Susan
From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Novel Ideas (was Re: Walking down to the student center last night)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:17:01
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: usa
	<1992Oct10.051024.29239@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
	<1992Oct11.010544.21220@netcom.com>
	<1992Oct12.040509.9447@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sartre.caisr.cwru.edu
In-reply-to: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu's message of Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:05:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.040509.9447@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.010544.21220@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
>><1992Oct10.051024.29239@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>><BvrJI4.Is1@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Green) :
>>...
>>>As the people depicted in my planned novel will be.  In my version of the
>>>future, there's a scene where there are pro-choicers at an abortion clinic,
>>>and the pro-lifers show u, and proceed to use truncheons.  The police
>>>then show, and instead of arresting the pro-lifers, they join in with them
>>>against the pro-choice people.  But then the PC crowd would have a fit....
>>
>>We'll see your truncheons and raise you fully automatic weapons.  We'll
>>get you to your god that much faster. :-)
>>
>Well, I plan to depict the riot police being fully armed, and using
>white posphorus instead of tear gas.  Now, since in my story assulting
>police officers, especially pulling guns on them, would be a capital offense,
>those who escaped would either face on the spot execution,or the death penalty
>after trial.

Interesting, I had a similar idea.

This involves gun rights activists teaming with abortion rights
activists to smuggle pregnant women from anti-abortion-choice states
to pro-abortion-choice states (and weapons from pro-gun-choice states
to anti-gun-choice states).  And, yes, the smuggling of either is a
capital offense -- so if you get caught, it makes more sense to shoot
it out and hope you win.

This all occurs immediately prior to the complete Balkanization of the
United States...
--
_______________________________________________________________________________

Brian Yamauchi			Case Western Reserve University
yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu	Department of Computer Engineering and Science
_______________________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: purdon@cons1.mit.edu (James Purdon)
Subject: Re: Sarah Weddington
Organization: .
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:54:24 GMT

In article <QemkVNy00VI=Q190kf@andrew.cmu.edu> Elizabeth Cornelia Green <eg1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Guess who's lecturing at Carnegie Mellon University Friday night?
>
>Yup, Sarah Weddington.  The woman who defended Roe in Roe vs. Wade in
>1973.  That's one woman who's gonna have a lot to answer for on
>judgement day!  Can you imagine the guilt of being very influential in
>the deaths of millions?!

You know, one of the amusing things about the version of Christianity
that all too frequently makes its appearance on talk.abortion is the
undisguised joy with which its practitioners look forward to seeing
their intellectual opponents consigned to the fires of Hell, to be
punished with unending torment forever.  From this behavior it appears
that they believe that one of the chief joys in heaven is to watch the
suffering of the damned.  And the claim is made that this brand of
Christianity is a loving faith.

In a pig's eye.

And yes, I've heard the phrase "Love the sinner, hate the sin."  Of course,
its not the sin that will be burning in hell.
-- 
Jim

Once I was single.  Now I am married.
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach)
Subject: Re: Survey: teens ought to know about birth control
Originator: forgach@gemini.tuc.noao.edu
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:25:54 GMT

From article by keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.):
> From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
> Subject: Survey: teens ought to know about birth control
> Keywords: sex, human interest, children, special interest, lifestyle trends,
> 	trends, sexual issues, social issues
> Message-ID: <il-birthcontrolU2OB540pc@clarinet.com>
> Date: 11 Oct 92 22:35:01 GMT
> References: <il-birthcontrolU2OB535pc@clarinet.com>
> 
> 	CHICAGO (UPI) -- Nearly three-fourths of Chicago-area heads of
> households believe inquiring teens should be given birth control
                     ^^^^^^^^^
                     |||||||||

Ahh, the all important word here, isn't it.

Doesn't quite fit with the mandatory K-12 condom training we have in many
schools does it.   What about all those who don't want condoms and cucumbers
shoved down their throats?
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