HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bob@comlab.gatech.edu (Bob Baggerman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: TCP/IP and Windows for Workgroups
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:32:42 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Steve Hendershott asks:
>If I currently use TCP/IP (FTP's) to communicate from DOS/Windows to
>UNIX (telnet, ftp, etc), can I put up Windows for Workgroups (WFWG) and
>set up to communicate with my associates who also install WFWG? In
>other words, is it that simple to say WFWG will work over TCP/IP?

and JQ Johnson replies:
>So far, I haven't seen any data that leads me to believe that W4W will
>work (or at least, work well) doing netbeui over TCP.  This in turn
>leads me to believe that W4W would be a disaster in a typical routed
>IP campus environment.

Actually, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work.  WFWG talks to a
NetBIOS interface, which then talks to a protocol stack, which then talks
to an NDIS interface, which then talks to the actual network hardware.
Microsoft ships NetBEUI, their protocol for supporting NetBIOS, with
WFWG.  The NDIS driver will allow other protocols such as TCP/IP to 
peacefully coexist with it.  We do it every day with our LanMan network.

I'm not sure what Mr. Johnson is talking about when he mentions "doing
NetBEUI over IP".  Maybe he is confusing Novell style networking with
the approach Microsoft has taken.  Novell networks use IPX.  If IPX isn't
feasible for whatever reason then they tunnel it in another protocol.
I.e. IPX "over" (fill in the blank).  Network applications that use the
NetBIOS interface such as WFWG or LanMan are largely protocol independent.
If a different protocol is called for then a different NetBIOS protocol 
is chosen.  As far as WFWG being a "disaster" in an IP routed environment
I suppose the market will decide that.  It is certainly technically feasible,
though.  

Bob

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From: axa12@po.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: QVT 3.,03 SLOOOWNESS bug
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:29:07 GMT
Organization: CWRU School of Medicine
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In article <BxtLDG.Jn7@m2.dseg.ti.com> anderson@dseg.ti.com (John Anderson) writes:

>I am experiencing a very slow response with the terminal emulator.  This 
>was not the case with 2.85.  Has anyone else noticed this?
>
>John Anderson
>
>anderson@dseg.ti.com (John Anderson)

This hasn't been my experience.  Scrolling and response has been about the 
same with both versions.  Is the host that you telnet into "overloaded"?

Ashok


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From: blakeco@microsoft.com (Blake Coverett)
Subject: Re: Windows for Workgroups and TCP/IP (QVTNET or PC/TCP)
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:44:24 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Canada Inc.

>>>>>rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner) writes:
>>>>>>Until Microsoft decides to use a multi-protocol stack for WFWG it will be
>>>>>>a no go - unless you load one (e.g., NDIS, ODI, etc.) before entering
>>>>>>Windows and can get the drivers to work with all the pieces.

>In article <1992Nov11.063238.25583@microsoft.com> blakeco@microsoft.com (Blake Coverett) writes:
>>WFW most certainly does use NDIS and as such supports multiple protocol
>>stacks on the same card.  In fact it comes with two stacks (NetBEUI and
>>IPX) which run concurrently when you choose NetWare support.  I have
>>successfully used Microsoft's TCP/IP stack with WFW and I strongly
>>suspect that QVT/NET could be persuaded to work with the NDIS packet
>>driver shim.

In article <rick.85.721676985@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner) writes:
>Not quite correct.  WfWG uses NetBIOS (the extended NetBIOS called 
>NetBEUI).  It can run NetBIOS over IPX.  It does not use NDIS, but
>you can use NDIS as a protocol stack manager if you desire.  It is not
>automatic, and NDIS set-up and management is 2-3 orders of magnitude
>more complex than the marketing hype asserts one needs to endure to
>set-up and run WfWG (Yes I know NDIS - I use it daily, and I hate it!)

No.  WFW only ever runs on top of a NDIS protocol stack. In its base 
configuration it look like this:

+------------------+
| NetBEUI protocol | (From either NET.EXE or VNB.386 depending on the mode)
| workgrp.sys stub | (transport hooks to pass things up to one of the above)
+------------------+ (This interface is standard NDIS 2.0.1)
| NDIS Card Driver | (this is your favorite NDIS card driver)
+------------------+

When you add another protocol stack it sits beside NetBEUI on top of the
NDIS interface.  I run an XNS NDIS stack all the time, MSIPX.SYS implements
an NDIS version of IPX and discussions of how to make the NDIS versions of
TCP/IP and AsyBEUI are in appendix 7 of the soon to be available Resource Kit
for WFW.

NetBIOS is simply a session layer programmers interface to a network protocol.
NetBIOS is commonly used over a NetBEUI transport but it is also commonly
used over IPX and TCP/IP (as a couple of examples.)
NetBIOS != NetBEUI in fact they are apples and oranges you can't compare
them at all.

-Blake (Rick, please email me directly if you have an issue with this.)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Windows Calendar
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:55:23 GMT

In <VxF=jH_@engin.umich.edu> kcurtis@nizki.engin.umich.edu (Keith Curtis) writes:



>> I called the tech. support at Microsoft and they told me that having
>> the calendar open in month display cannot be done. Thanks for all the
>> responses.
>		
>Sure, its easy....

>You need to be able to program Windows, though.

>I might be able to whip up the program to do the job for you if you really want me to.  Send me private e-mail.

>In general, what you would do is do a postmessage (hwnd,WM_COMMAND,ID_Month,0L);
>or something like that and it should work.

Wouldn't this be doable using something like the batch language that
comes with Norton Desktop for Windows (or Command Post, or just about
any of them)?  Then put the batch file in your startup file instead of
the Calendar icon.

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From: neiger@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Postscript viewer for Windows and DOS
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:01:45 +1100
Organization: Monash University, Australia

The Windows Postscript viewer can be found at SIMTEL-20, OAK and GARBO (wustel
in Finland).  The files which you need are
GS252WIN.ZIP  190976 bytes  (Ghostscript for Windows)
GS252INI.ZIP  244224 bytes  (Critical ini files, default UGLY.GSF postscript
                             font and sample PS files)
if you also intend to use DOS you must get either GS252386.ZIP (for 386/486)
or GS252286.ZIP.

These files can be found in the PostScript directory.

Ghostscript will print to numerous devices but it will not display the whole
page on the screen at once.  It is supposed to be able to use Type 1 and Type 3
fonts (I haven't tried it).

The only problem is that it does not have any user interface yet.  That means
that if you want it to go you must send it a command line
eg. GS tiger.ps  (to display the file tiger.ps).

If someone out there knows more about using GS please post.

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From: gerry@bluemoon.use.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: Re: Is Windows NT worth the trouble?
Keywords: NT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:47:53 EST

> Well, you must have received a different version than I did, because
> the version I have (October Beta) has only one floppy that installs the
> CDROM.  The docs are on the CDROM, but they are 100% postscript, so
> you have to either print them or view them with ghostscript.  I was
> underwhelmed by this, because I was expecting the kind of organised
> on-line docs that were on the developer's CDROM with the whiz-bang
> search engine.  On-line docs that have to be printed to be viewed are
> a crock.
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What is ghostscript and where can it be found?  Are the NT Beta
CD-ROM docs readable by ordinary text editors, even if not
well organized or indexed?  If the answers are not of general
interest, please answer by e-mail.  Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From:  (OJM)
Subject: DrawFix(?) demo
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:57:12 GMT

Is there any ftp-site where I can find a demo of DrawFix(?) for Windows?
From: cm119@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlos Dominguez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: FOLLOWUP: Eclipse Fax 1.2 & Boca 14.4
Date: 16 Nov 1992 04:48:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I just applied a patch to the MOD.EXE file in winfaxpro and it
will now send at 9600 but bomb while receiving.
 
I still havent received a reply fro the folks at Eclipse regarding
their software..

I still haven't heard from BOCA as well..

Does someone have the CIS ID for Vic Schiller (sp?) the CEO of
Eclipse whose known to raise havoc in the Delrina Forum on CIS?

Id like to give him a piece of my mind about his Tech Support
staff...
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From: brian@mbf.UUCP (Brian Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Word for Windows question
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:24:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MAI Systems Corp.

In article <608@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson) writes:
>
>I would like to include an encapsulated postscript image on every page
>of a document that my new stuff gets overlayed upon.  Is there a way to
>do this?  Basically what I want is the word Uncontrolled written diagonally
>and at a halftone on every page of some documents we are creating.  Can this
>be done in Word for Windows?  It would be nice to include this in the header
>of each page if possible.

I don't know of any way to include a postscript image on each page.  But if
all tou want is a word or phrase written in halftone under the text, check
out the watermark macro.  A word of warning... each page will take a LONG
time to print.

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From: tek@ms.uky.edu (Thomas E. Kunselman)
Subject: tn3270 software suggestions/help
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:55:49 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I need some good suggestions for software to connect up to an ibm mainframe
via windows.  We currently are using winqvtnet, but it seems much slower
than using the tn3270 program from ncsa.  However, I could not get the ncsa
software to work under windows with packet drivers.

It is important that our software solution use packet drivers, as we are
also running a web peer to peer network that is using packet drivers.

Any help would desperately be appreciated!


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From: JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu
Subject: Re: MS W4W Printing problem
Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 08:43:46 EST

In article <1992Nov19.213434.14404@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:
 
>
>I'm attempting to print from Word in Windows 3.1 and It's not printing
>some lines in my documents.  It will print about the top quarter of
>the line and nothing else of it, while printing some lines intact.  I
>tried printing both to a dot matrix printer and to a HP Laserjet IIIsi
>to file.  Both produced the same result, with the HP having more lines
>garbled.
>
Check the line spacing in the paragraph format.  You may have selected
"Exactly" instead of "Auto" and your font is too large for the line spacing.
This happened several times to us before we figured it out.
From: per.ytterberg@neurofys.uu.se (Per Ytterberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Even and odd
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:16:45 GMT
Organization: University Hospital, Uppsala Sweden
NNTP-Posting-Host: per.neurofys.uu.se

This has been asked before, I know that, but where can I find a macro to 
print even and odd pages in Word for Windows 2.0?

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From: riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm)
Subject: Mathematics fonts for Windows
Organization: McMaster University, Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:20:39 GMT

A friend is using Micrografx Draw to produce graphs, and needs a math font
to produce things like the d used in partial derivatives, etc.  Is there such
a font?    Carl Riehm.

P.S. reply to me or directly to him :    middleto@cis.sscvax.mcmaster.ca
From: kcj@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Kate Juliff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Numbering equations in W4W
Date: 19 Nov 1992 06:36:57 GMT
Organization: Australian National University, Canberra, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.20.13

In article <psm.722141203@murlibobo> psm@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Phil Malin) writes:
>
>I was wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to number equations
>in Word for Windows 2.0 automatically.  I could number them manually
>but I would much prefer it if it could be done automatically.
>
Yes, it's easily done. Insert a sequence field with a label.
{seq maths}

This will be incremented by 1 automatically.

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From: bigal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nathan Charles Crowell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Windows Accounting Software
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:52:58 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


I'm interested in purchasing a personal accounting package
for either Windows or DOS for home finance use (i.e. checking,
tracking expenses, etc.).

I'm looking for input on good packages. The sort of features
I'm looking for are double-entry accounting, the ability
to create accounts easily, statement reconciliation, etc.,
basically what I'm sure most of them do.  I'd also like to
be able to graphically display financial data, like net worth,
actual vs. budget data, and be able to print reports.  The graphics
aren't really a necessity, just a desired feature.

What I'm looking for for information is feature/bugs, price,
tech. support/upgrades, hardware requirements, Windows 
compatibility for DOS apps, and personal experiences, bad 
or good. I already use Moneycounts, and would like to get 
something better or just different.

E-mail replies are preffered, but I do read this group regularly.

Thanx in advance,

bigal@wpi.wpi.edu
Nate

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From: kcurtis@nizki.engin.umich.edu (Keith Curtis)
Subject: Re: Windows Calendar
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 05:42:20 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: kcurtis@nizki.engin.umich.edu



> I called the tech. support at Microsoft and they told me that having
> the calendar open in month display cannot be done. Thanks for all the
> responses.
		
Sure, its easy....

You need to be able to program Windows, though.

I might be able to whip up the program to do the job for you if you really want me to.  Send me private e-mail.

In general, what you would do is do a postmessage (hwnd,WM_COMMAND,ID_Month,0L);
or something like that and it should work.
From: dem@nhmpw2.fnal.gov (David E. Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: autofocus in windows, anybody??
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:09:47 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Acclerator Laboratory, Batavia, IL, USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dem@nhmpw2.fnal.gov
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>
>	Try raise110.zip !
>	You can find it on ftp.cica.indiana.edu in /pub/pc/win3/util.
>

Raise is a nice program, but it still doesn't use the X-windows "pointer focus"
paradigm.  Raise will bring the up the window where your mouse pointer rests (after
a set timeout).  I want to be able to type into a partially hidden window, though.
I talked to Microsoft and they claim that it should be easy to write a program
that does this, but I have never seen one.

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From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Dump to Printer
Summary: Looking for app to do printer dumps. 
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:36:30 GMT

Is there a shareware/pd program out there that you run minimized like the mac printer or trashcan that will let me drag the file I want to it and it will dump the file to the printer? If so what ftp site and what directory?
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From: iroberts@pietro.ua.oz.au (Ian Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Windows Calendar
Date: 18 Nov 1992 01:42:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Physical and Inorganic Chemistry, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: pietro.pichem.adelaide.edu.au
Summary: particular files

Joe wants a particular calendar file to open at start up...

As with all appliactions with windows icons can be created for data files using
the progam manager. Provided windows has associated this type of data file
(identified by the file extension) with a particular appliacation then clicking
on that icon wil open the document within the desired application.

I don't know how to make it open in the month display -sorry

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From: plaut@sc2a.unige.ch (Olivier PLAUT)
Subject: Re: EXCEL!!! Simple yet lethal question...
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:16:20 GMT

In article <19345.2b0aa332@levels.unisa.edu.au>, yawcl@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
> Hi... this is for all those excel macro programming enthusiast out there...
> 
> How do you do an add texts from two cells into one cell....
> ( An actual formula for a macro would really be helpful... )
> 
> I know it sounds trivial... But I'm ripping hairs out over here....
> 
> I know that the same procedure can be done in Lotus with the 
> string + string command.... But Excel doesn't have a string command...
> 
> And I haven't been able to find an inverse "parse" command....
> 
> If that hasn't got you yet... Does Excel's macro programming tool actually
> have a limit on embeded "AND" and "OR" commands....
> It got really stuffy at me once when I tried to "OR" two "AND" statements
> together.... ( Although... the formula was getting a bit long... by this 
> point...) Bear in mind they work brilliantly apart....
> 
> Paul Leong ..
> E-mail : yawcl@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
> 
> ps. Somebody should start a competition for finding the most puzzeling
> questions for an application.....
> 
> 

You even don't need a macro for that:

"=REPLACE($B$3;(LEN($B$3)+1);1;$C$3)"					

If you place this formula in the current cell, you'll have
the text of cell C3 added to the end of the text of cell B3.
Olivier.

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