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From: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Airline Wheelchair Practices
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:56:39 GMT
Reply-To: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24796

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 KJ>  You are the second person I have heard about that lost a wheelchair
 KJ>  during a flight to Hawaii. I will remember this if
 KJ> I ever go to Hawaii.

I have been luck with my wheelchair when I fly, but I usually let
them know I want it in the hole and if I transfer, for use during
hte transfer.  Can't get lost that way.

My one wheelchair problem while flying came when I was the pilot.
I was getting checked out on a new set of handcontrols at BWI
airport, Baltimore's commercial airport.  We left the chair by the
plane tie down inside 4 steal post around a fire hydrant.  When we
landed, the chair was gone.  Well the instructor pilot started
looking, and finally contacted the Md. Stae police, who ar the
police agency at the airport.  They found my chair hidden inside a
container used to load freight inside freighters.  Guess some one
needed it for their ailing mother and thought it had been declaired
excess  :-)  !

Well all things end well, I got checked out and after 1 hour wait,
my wheelchair.  Do you know how hot a Piper Cheerkee gets in the
sun in one hour, even with the door open?

Regards, John

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From: Jerry.Berrier@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Berrier)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: editorial
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:02:38 GMT
Reply-To: Jerry.Berrier@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
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Index Number: 24855

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Regarding the editorial, I am an excellent traveler, but I'm still blind
and can damn sure walk into a wall from time to time.  Although their
methods may at times be irritating or inappropriate, most people who
offer help do it with good intentions, and I generally try to accept it
in that spirit.  If I don't ask for help, it may be because I don't even
know I need it.

     All of us human beings need help from each other on a regular
     basis, and at times I have found that I helped the other person
     more than they helped me by interacting with them and permitting
     them to asssist me.  In short, I think the editorial sucked.

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From: Sheila.Fava@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila Fava)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: contact sports....
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:34:18 GMT
Reply-To: Sheila.Fava@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/68 - Diabetes Discussion, Austin TX
X-Fidonet: Abled Athlete Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24996

[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

In a message to Sheila Fava <10-05-92 15:45> Neil Ohlenkamp announced:

NO> I think your view of sports for the blind is too conservative...

    The ABA allows contact sports for the athletes belonging to ABA.  The
 competitions I have competed in:
(NWAA -- Nat. Wheelchair Athletic Association    and
USCPAA -- Cerebral Palsy Athletic Association    and
the Canadian Council(s) for Physical Fitness  -- Provincial Games f/t
    Physically disABLED                          and
various State athletic organizations)

    have welcomed the ABA Athlete but, as a competitor and spectator, I have
 not found the ABA well represented.

NO> ...Athletes and both canada and the US sent blind teams to the
NO> paralympics which included judo players.

    And the Judo team medaled!

NO> There are very few limits to  what a person with a visual impairement can
 NO> do but contact sports is not one of them.

    In a previous message, Neil, I said I stood corrected.

                    ---Sheila

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From: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Saus)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Epidural Steroid Injections
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:27:57 GMT
Reply-To: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:376/72.160 - Windows of the Worl, Columbia SC
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24697

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hello Linda!

21 Sep 92, Linda Cummings writes to Arthur Saus:

 >> Following this, the only sensation of
 >> the epidural steroid injection should be a hard pressure
 >> sensation, as if someone was pushing on your back with one finger.

 LC> Why can't they put you to sleep for these things?

Obtaining good patient cooperation is important to facilitate
proper placement of the needle, and to get an early recognition of
any complications that might occur.  This is very helpful and is
lost if the patient is "put to sleep".

 >> Some folks notice a
 >> mild cramp sensation either in the back or going down one or both
 >> legs at the time of injection, but again this is not generally
 >> considered painful, just slightly uncomfortable or awkward.

 LC> Mild cramp?  hehe   And what about that burning sensation?  Of course,
 LC> *some* anesthesiologists are really kind to you and give you novacane or
 LC> something to help deaden your legs so you won't feel all the cramping and
 LC> burning.

Well, I've done it both ways after injecting local anesthesia into
the skin. I've given the steroid "strait" and also along with other
anesthetics.  The only appreciable difference I have found is that
addition of the anesthetic gives temporary pain relief for the back
or "sciatica" pain that starts soon after the injection is
complete.  The steroid alone seems to take longer for the pain
relief to start.  Most people do not find the actual injection of
the medication to be painful at all; as I stated earlier, the worst
sensation is usually only a mild cramp that may (or may not) go
into the legs.

Arthur

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From: Ruthie.Hoffman@f223.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ruthie Hoffman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: meds
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:28:12 GMT
Reply-To: Ruthie.Hoffman@f223.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/223 - Interstellar System, Vine Valley NY
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24699

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hiya Linda...

Are you still taking the anti-depressant that you once were??  If
so, which one?  If not, why did you stop it?  And if you never were
taking it, then I'm sorry, I musta mixed ya up with someone else
here.

I also remember Keith Jones saying he was, or was thinking of,
taking an anti-depressant to help him with the pain.  Keith, if
you're reading this, comments????

I took imiprimine 5 yrs. ago for depression (divorce, etc. etc.)
and a tri-cyclic anti-depressant worked well for me at that time.
Last nite I was speaking with a dear friend of mine, who is a
psychologist (who happens to treat people with chronic pain) and he
mentioned that I might ask my doc about trying the imiprimine.  My
friend explained in depth how the anti-depressants help with
chronic pain and also went over with me the best way to approach my
doc about trying this. VERY helpful.

BTW, this friend is and always has been a FRIEND (actually, 6 yrs
or so ago could have been much more...but...Florida is too far away
from NY..grin)  and has never treated me (a little hard for him to
be objective....his words) and I didn't even know he treated people
with chronic pain until about 6 months ago!!  We don't talk "shop"
when we chat.

I'm asking about the imiprimine cuz the darvocet isn't working like
it used to, my TENS unit works well unless I'm  having a higher
level of pain.  Friday I spoke with the doc and I sense hesitancy
on his part to switch painkillers.  Of course, not much to choose
from cuz the tylenol and codine combinations make me sick if I take
them more than once or twice within a day or so, and all the NSAIDs
I've had terrible reactions to.  I have to call the doc office
tomorrow to let them know how I'm doing and to discuss this
further.

Fun..   wow    :-/

CUL, Ruthie

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From: Robert.Gilchrist@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Gilchrist)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: blinks and psychedelics
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:00:08 GMT
Reply-To: Robert.Gilchrist@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/715 - The BandMaster, Vancouver BC
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24846

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 On 08-04-92 Bill Koppelmann wrote to Chris Bazzie...

 BK> > that raises an interesting question, how does a perception
 BK> >altering  drug affect a blind persons perception?

Bill From Rob
I would say that the perception altering drug would affect the blind
person in the same way as the sighted person, since the drug affects the
visual cortext in the brain, just as theimpulses in the optic nerve are
translated into what we see by the visual cortex. This means that the
drug makes the cortex fire of in strange ways which would change the
visual perceptions of the person whether they are sighted or blind. The
only way this would not work is in the case of those who had optic nerve
damage, or actual separation.
Rob

... OFFLINE 1.35 * Format another (Y/N)?

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From: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Saus)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: RSD Group
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:22:04 GMT
Reply-To: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:376/72.160 - Windows of the Worl, Columbia SC
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24927

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hello Mike!

29 Sep 92, Mike Lyons writes to Arthur Saus:

 ML> the lawyer currently has the book and video and ALL of our pamplets,
 ML> photocopies and disks on RSD.

This statement makes me question your motivation to continue this
discussion. Again, I stand behind my previous statement that I know
of no scientific information to suggest that a true case of Reflex
Sympathetic Dystrophy will "jump" from one extremity to another,
although it may indeed "spread" to involve progressively more of
the same extremity where it initially started.

 ML> Normally, your body will show red for warm, well from the waist
 ML> down there was green, blue and black.  This shows that the body
 ML> temperature is real low.

Again, your "facts" are not quite correct.  Thermography does not
show that "body temperature is real low".

 ML> I can not give you copies of some of the information because of copyright
 ML> laws, but the info I can give you I will.

Again, this seems suspicious.  Copyright laws do not prevent the
spread of scientific reference material.  If you will quote the
references in peer reviewed scientific journals or medical
textbooks, I will attempt to examine the documents to which you are
referring.

Arthur

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From: Les.Kriegler@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Les Kriegler)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: OSCAR 3.0
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:19:47 GMT
Reply-To: Les.Kriegler@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/207 - The Recovery Room, Rochester NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24912

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DT>         I had my first opportunity to see the new OSCAR 3.0
 DT>         software based scanning software today.  I had heard
 DT>  that the software was good, and that it was fast.  And, that
 DT>  it ran under MS DOS, not Windows.

 DT>         Well, the new OSCAR is sporting basicly the same look
 DT>  as its' earlier versions with some important new choices on
 DT>  its' menu of options; including auto contrast detect and the
 DT>  ability to set the complete range of contrasts from a menu

David, the contrast autodetect sounds like a significant
breakthrough.  I assume you mean that contrasts are
automatically detected and the appropriate setting is chosen.
If that is the case, this is really significant, for as you
know, one can spend a fair amount of time testing new
documents by trying out different contrast settingsd.  Does
the fact that the software compensates for this by doing it
automatically have any effect in slowing down the recognition
process?  Regards, Les

Les Kriegler

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From: Sheila.Fava@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila Fava)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Athletics including golf
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:49:55 GMT
Reply-To: Sheila.Fava@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/3 - Nerd's Nook, Rocky River OH
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24997

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

Eastern Amputee Athletic Association
Jack Graff, President
Mike Donals, V. President
2080 Ennabrock Rd.
North Bellmore, NY 11710
  (516)826-8340

This Association will have information for you concerning golf and
golf tournaments.

                    ---Sheila

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From: Kelly.Ford@f8.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Kelly Ford)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Comments from syntha-
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:00:45 GMT
Reply-To: Kelly.Ford@f8.n121.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:121/8 - JW-PC DataFlex.HST, Sun Prairie WI
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24848

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 SB> arguments. For example, access should be defined, because I am
 SB> convinced that the graphical inteface has aspects to it which,
 SB> if one is to truly have total access, they must have had good
 SB> sound visual experiences. How would a blind person necessarily
 SB> know what letter size, what colors, how to fit text in boxes
 SB> pleasingly, how to fix borders, and I could go on and on. No,
 SB> no matter what Syntha is doing, a totally blind person with
 SB> absolutely no knowledge of what is visually pleasing, will
 SB> never have total access to the windows evironment. Then, too,
 SB> there is the price. $795 plus maybe new synthesizer, plus more
 SB> memory to make windows work, for limited access??? It's just
 SB> not worth it. Hope this helps you, and perhaps I'm not one of
 SB> the favored ones either, but if that's the case, so be it. Take
 SB> care Gary, and sure hope things are looking up for you. Stew

I'm not looking to start an argument here but many of the points you
make hold true for the character-based DOS world.  Does someone who is
blind really know what's visually pleasing in WordPerfect just because
they can access the program.  What you can now do in DOS you can do in
Windows as far as knowing what's going on.

What's difficult in DOS, like laying things out, will be difficult in
Windows.

KELLY FORD

... Silver Xpress Offline Mail/Fax System!...Simply more bang for your bucks!
    Via Silver Xpress V3.01

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From: Margaret.Overath@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (Margaret Overath)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Hello
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: Margaret.Overath@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24876

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

HELLO THERE! I AM NEW ON THIS THING.  I ALSO LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
HEARING AIDS MYSELF. I WEAR TWO HEARING AIDS AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE
SEVEN YEARS OLD!  SO I AM PLANNING TO LOOK FOR NEW ONES SOON.  SO
ANYBODY OUT THERE GOT SOME PARTICULAR BRAND YOU RECOMMEND?

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From: Alan.Fonseca@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Fonseca)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Speech
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:31:27 GMT
Reply-To: Alan.Fonseca@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/715 - The BandMaster, Vancouver BC
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24977

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In my search for Speech systems I have been contacting various
people who I think might know from their correspondence with others
something about it. And this has been good but it occured to me
there must be an outlet for all these companies to advertise in.

Does anyone know of such a magazine or journal? If so please
provide address so I can write to them.

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From: Barbara.Akin@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Akin)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Question about windows
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:31:38 GMT
Reply-To: Barbara.Akin@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24978

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi all,

I need to ask a question here about Windows.

Is Windows truly usable now by blind persons, or not.

I will probably be needing Windows on the job sceen, and so if I could
get an answer about how Windows can be utilized by someone who is
totally blind, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

P.S. Sorry I haven't been on messaging much.

I was in an accident and had major sergery and have a serious knee
injury.

It may take me a while to get back to some of you, so please be
patient.

My knee is broken, and in a brace.

I'm pretty much immobile for the next few weeks.

Thanks for any help I can get concerning this Windows question.

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From: Karen.Friedman@p0.f256.n120.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Friedman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Hi,
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:21:19 GMT
Reply-To: Karen.Friedman@p0.f256.n120.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:120/256.0 - The Blind Ambition , Rochester MI
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24922

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

  I've been evesdropping the past few weeks.  About sighted people
who demonstrate a lack of sensitivity - what about if the person in
question is a supervisor?

  I work for the Army, and have all the tedchnology I need to do a
day's work for a day's wage.  I somehow seem to be ignored when it
comes to assignments, and I am becoming disgusted!
The biggest drawback for my boss is that I can't read handwriting!
I have a Kurzweil Machine, and am quite proficient with Lotus, Word
Perfect, and most of the software on our Local Area Network.
  Any suggestions?
Karen Friedman

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From: Anne.Collins@f15.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Anne Collins)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Popliteal Entrapment Syndrome
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:45:22 GMT
Reply-To: Anne.Collins@f15.n363.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/15 - Nurse Corner BBS, Orlando FL
X-Fidonet: Rare Disorder Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24726

[This is from the Rare Disorders Conference]

Can anyone tell me anything about this syndrome?  My husband has
been diagnosed with this and has not only had one above-knee
amputation, but has now had five toes amputated from the other leg
and faces the possibility of losing this leg as well.   The doctors
cannot seem to agree on a diagnosis - as he has also been diagnosed
as having Buerger's Disease.  He has been battling this for the
past 15 years and has been through innumerable operations that
include bypass grafts and amputations.  I have been unsuccessful in
obtaining any information on "Popliteal Entrapment Syndrome" at
all, and only the most minimal amount of information is available
regarding Buerger's Disease.  All I know is that PES is a very rare
disease and only a handful of people have been diagnosed with
this.   Any information would be most appreciated.

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From: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Catania)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Sign References
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:23:10 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:230/22 - The Special Needs B, Whiting IN
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24879

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

FO>Rick,

FO>The one reference that seems to contain the MOST terms and words
FO>of any source I have ever seen is the tome American Sign Language
FO>-- a Comprehensive Dictionary... there are smaller editions
FO>available in softcover but make sure it's not an abridged version.

Thanks for your feedback, Fran!  I do have a personal hard copy of that
dictionary. Sad to say.... as detailed as it is, it still doesn't cover
the signage I'm looking for.

An acquintance did contact Gallaudet. Gallaudet had people do some
research for any publications dealing with signs on Book Binding
Terminology. I still need to contact NAD along with the Rochester
Institute of Technology.

I do have an ASCII file available off my BBS listing the terminology
and the definitions. BINDING.ZIP

Anyone is welcomed to FREQ it from 1:230/22 @ FidoNet.

Thanks once again.....

Rick

 * SLMR 2.1 #T375 * Everything starts as somebody's daydream.

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From: Adrienne.Barhydt@p15.f48.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Adrienne Barhydt)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Meds
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: Adrienne.Barhydt@p15.f48.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/48.15 - Jim Long's Computer, Portland OR
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24824

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

On Sun, Sep 27 Allison Cozzi (1:161/3216) wrote the following to Keith Jones:

->  Narcotics are great and work very well for ACUTE pains but are
->  considered taboo nowadays by most of the up-to-date medical
->  establishment for people with CHRONIC pain for the reason you just
->  mentioned.

 AC>      I'm afraid that we disagree on this subject. The field of
 AC>chronic
 AC>pain management has changed drastically in the past twenty years
 AC>and
 AC>there are varying schools of thought within the field. I am also

Thanks for the good post.  I read an article that made the same points a few
years ago and it had a strong impression on me.  I don't have pain but I am
aware of the possibilities of marijuana for spasticity and established
effectiveness for other serious conditions.  This "war on drugs" has turned
into a lot of b*llsh*t when it prevents people from getting the treatment they
need to make life worth living.

Adrienne

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