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From: martin@DMI.USherb.CA (Jean-francois Martin)
Subject: SyQuest drives (request for opinions)
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:57:03 GMT

Hi,

I'm planning to buy a SyQuest drive very soon and I would like to
get your comments on that. I heard about the TopDrive model, do you 
ave any comments about this drive brand? Can someone tell me if
it is worth paying for a Syquest from Club Mac or somewhere else at
399$ while at some place they sell SyQuest for 500$ dollars? (They all
come with formatting software and cables and one cartridge).

Do you recommend any brand?

JF Martin

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cmparris@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Michael Parrish)
Subject: Duo 230 Hard Drive Q?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:43:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA



  Well, I've had my Duo 230 and a DuoDock for two days now, and I am really 
quite impressed.  I have decided that with System 7, 4 megs isn't enough and
that I would really like to get the co-processor and VRAM upgrades, but I am
still amazed at the portability and speed of the system. I would also recommend
the Performa Plus display to anyone looking to save some money. I've used an
Apple 13' RGB at work for about 2 years now, and I think that the Performa Plus
is not really to far behind (but, stay away from the regular performa display...
yeck....you can barely read 9 point text on it...) 

 The question I have is about the internal Duo drive (an 80 meg). I've noticed
that every so often it makes a little thunking sound (the closest thing I have
heard to it before is the sound a 44 meg Syquest makes when it is winding down,
right before the lights go off and you can eject the cartridge). I've made
sure that sleep and the screen diming are off, and it continues to happen
even when docked...anyway know if this might be a problem about to surface
or if it is standard on these small drives.....?

 Thanks....

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From: jrg@punch (James R. Goble)
Subject: Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:47:39 GMT

In article <Bz14Ds.EyG@world.std.com> jbailey@world.std.com (jim bailey)  
writes:
> peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
> 
> >heksterb@cs.utwente.nl (Ben Hekster) writes:
> 
> >>In article <1992Dec7.013132.151@cuphub.cup.edu> luf4695@cuphub.cup.edu  
writes:
> >>>It's true that most(all?) new machines come with Windows, but how  
many people
> >>>who bye these machines actually use it.
> 
> >>I wonder about that, too.  It amuses me to no end to see how many
> >>Windows `users' keep that "DOS Prompt" tool at hand because it's so
> >>much `easier' to copy a file with Norton Commander than to have to use
> >>the File Manager-- Windows must really be great.
> 
> >Yeah, that's because Windows users *CAN* have a command line interface.  
Try
> >that on a Mac!
> 
> Ok, it is called MPW, it is available from APDA for about $125.  I use
> it all the time.  It blows the doors off of the DOS shell.  What was
> your point?

You can also buy AUX 3.0, a real mans command line interface.  Dos command  
line tools are so wimpy by comparison that they might as well not exist.   
If you liked the PC command interface, why did you buy Windows?

--------
I want my, I want my GUI....
--------

Jim Goble,
Los Angeles
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Sandro Ventura <sandrov@sunicar.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: PB 100 modem in Italy
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7584AFB90020E28@macsandrov.cern.ch>
X-Xxdate: Sat, 19 Dec 92 02:43:55 GMT
Organization: CERN
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d14
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:42:53 GMT

In article <1gtgfuINN7so@agate.berkeley.edu> Luigi Semenzato,
luigi@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU writes:
> A friend who brought to Italy his PB 100 with the Apple internal
> 2400/9600 send fax modem claims that it doesn't work: that is,
> it does not dial.  (...)

Unless the modem itself is faulty (or doesn't perform pulse dialing), I'd
tend to search the problem among the following points:
- phone line connection. You may know that some part of the italian
  telephone network is quite old and still brings old fashioned 4-holes
  plug...Even the standard 3-holes plug can give some problems: if you
have
  more telephones you should correctly bridge two of the three jacks.
- phone misuse. When pulse dialing with the modem you must be sure that
the
  other telephones on the same line are well hung up (don't try to monitor
  what's going on), otherwise they'll keep the line closed while the
  modem's relay worthlessly attempting to open it...
- tone detection. I once experienced problems with a Global Village modem
  bought in the USA, which wouldn't recognize italian tone standards.
  Since the fax software insisted checking the line before dialing, I
never
  could get a fax sent...not before carefully reading the modem manual and
  finding the hidden chooser dialog with the preference settings!

By a standard multitester your friend might check if the line relay works
(after ATH1 the modem line input should show some tens of Ohms, after ATH0
it should become infinity), and if the pulse rate is correct (it should be
around 9-10 pulses per second).

Hope it helps!

Sandro


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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Performa 600 - not a cripple!
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 13:52:52 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods) writes:

>erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:

> >The correct machine to compare against the P600 is the IIci, not the
> >IIsi.

> Why?  Does it cost the same as a IIci?  According to MacWeek, the price of
> the Performa 600 (street $2000) is much closer to the IIsi (list $1999) than the
> IIci (list $2719).

This morning's San Jose Mercury News had an ad for a IIci 5/80 from
Whole Earth Electronics for $2249. A IIvx 4/80 was priced at $2449.
No price on a P600, but if your estimate is correct they're all about
in the same price range.

> Or are you comparing against the IIci in order to make
> sure that your claim that the Performa 600 is an inferior machine looks
> justified?  Heck, why not compare it against a Quadra 950?  A Cray 2?
> MacUser's recent Buyers' Guide also kind of panned the Performa 600, but at
> least their analysis was more insightful than "Hey, it's not as good as a IIci!
> THTHTHTHRRRP!".

I don't think I said anything like "THTHTHTHRRRP!". :-)
The P600/IIvx combination seems targeted at about the same market as
the IIci, and quite a distinct market than the Quadra 950. They are
approximately the same performance, same number of Nubus slots, etc.

> >Other factors are
> >a matter of taste, but I much prefer the IIci's plastic case to the P600's
> >metal one.

> As a user of the radio spectrum, I applaud Apple's efforts to continue to
> improve the radiation characteristics of their machines.  While the IIci is
> very quiet, the metal cases are not only cheaper for Apple to manufacture,
> they are also better suited to meeting RFI and EMC requirements.

As I said, it's a matter of taste. I don't give a damn about radiation
characteristics.

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From: jdglasse@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey David Glasse)
Subject: OUTBOUND HELP needed 
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:03:37 GMT


I am having problems with an outbound laptop. It refuses to read the
silicon disk, HD, or external floppy. Anyone have ideas?

-jeff
(email, please)
From: skum@bessel.umd.edu (Allon Stern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Video card questions..
Date: 19 Dec 92 13:11:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Skum Knows Unix, Maybe

In article <102474@netnews.upenn.edu> warden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Robert T Warden) writes:
>
>I'm thinking of purchasing an old Apple Mac II 8-bit video
>card to use in my IIci (13" monitor) to speed it up a little.  
>I do not foresee ever going up to a 16" monitor or 24-bits.
>I have some questions however:
>
>1:  Will the old card (4years old) work in a IIci (I can't
>    think why it wouldn't).
>
>2:  Will MaxAppleZoom work on it?
>
>3:  Is it worth $50?
>
>Rob Warden
>warden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

Assuming you're talking about the Toby Frame Buffer card (you probably are)
it will work; I've used it in a IIci, and also in a Quadra with no
difficulties.  Works with MaxAppleZoom too.  Note that running MaxAppleZoom
in multimonitor configurations causes all sorts of weirdnesses sometimes.
I dunno if these problems have been fixed or not.
Definitely worth the $50.
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From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Quadra 700/Retrospect/Tape Backup Query
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:30:11 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1gk9r4INNpb3@anthrax.solbourne.com> kucharsk@solbourne.com (William
Kucharski) writes:
>drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) said the following:
> >If you have the Retro.SCSI INIT installed, throw it away. It's not
compatible
> >with the SCSI Manager on the Quadra.
>
>Uh... News to me (and probably to Dantz for that matter).
>
>I have Retro.SCSI installed and Retrospect (v1.3) works like a charm for me.
>I'm even running 7.1.

Uh... News to me - Dantz Tech Support told me that the INIT wasn't compatible
with the Quadra.


David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

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From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: IIvx recalled?
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:41:23 GMT

gadget@engin.umich.edu (Timothy David Sharpe) writes:
>I just heard that the IIvx are being recalled?
>Any one else heard anything about this?

I haven't heard anything like that, but I probably wouldn't complain
if they intended to fix a lot of the annoying shortcomings of the
machine (MIDI problems, mono chip that only passes the left channel,
cripplingly slow bus...)  (Hey, I can always hope!)

Where did you hear this rumor?  Can you trace it to any reliable source?

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From: macdevil@netlink.cts.com (Leonard Cayetano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HP Deskwriter 550c
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:34:24 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Anyone have this and if so, how do you like it?  I looked at some printed 
pages and it looks REALLY good.  
 
Leo.

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From: STMQ%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael Quigley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: The Macintosh Line
Date: 12 Dec 1992 12:37:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello Again,

I recently posted a message asking for help in choosing a Macintosh to
start doing MIDI and music related applications with.. I have received
many responses, for which I am greatful.. I do however, have another
question.. Could someone please tell me exactly what Macintoshes are
in production now, and roughly where they fall in the line.. I stopped
using Macs for a while.. Back when I was involved with them we had things
like the SE, and the SE/30.. I really don't know what is available now..
I've also decided that Audiomedia is not something that I want to get
involved with right now.. I would like to get one of the small footprint
compact models.. Any help would be appreciated..

- Mike -

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jcav@ellis.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Subject: Re: THE FINAL WORD IN THE MAC vs PC BATTLE....
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:10:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.113602.9614@ac.dal.ca> seanmcd@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <wondertr.724477171@sfu.ca>, wondertr@fraser.sfu.ca (wondertree learning center) writes:
>> I will end this discussion once and for all.
>> 
>> The best machine is the one that makes you the most MONEY!!
>> 
>> TED
>
>WRONG! Why must you measure everything with your patriarchal, materialistic
>yardstick? :-)
>
>The best machine is the one that makes you the most PRODUCTIVE!!

Capitalism teaches us that the above-mentioned propositions should be
equivalent. :-)


(patriarchal??)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Supra modem Cable
From: dt@dhw68k.cts.com (Donald Toy)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:55:47 GMT
Organization: Wolfskill & Dowling residence; Anaheim, CA (USA)

In article <19777.2B2F2933@zeus.ieee.org> Eric.Choi@zeus.ieee.org (Eric Choi) writes:
>There is no good dim sum in Michigan! 
>
>  gu> From: gadget@engin.umich.edu (Timothy David Sharpe) Date: 11 Dec 92
>  gu> 22:20:42 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann
>  gu> Arbor Message-ID: <hbR=S!A@engin.umich.edu> Newsgroups:
>  gu> comp.sys.mac.hardware
>  gu> 
>  gu> Can one make, or buy the supra modem separately? What is different
>  gu> from the null modem cable?
>  gu> 
>  gu> Tim
>  gu> --- Squish v1.01
>  gu>  * Origin: zeus.ieee.org * [140.98.1.1]  (1:107/10)
>
>It's a hardware handshake cable. MacConnection sells the same for $15.00 plus
>$3.00 shipping.
>
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Hardware handshake cable can be had for $10 plus shipping at Data Technology
Products (800-336-7060) as well.
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From: mkelly@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu (Michael A. Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple 13" RGB monitor interlaced or non-interlaced?
Date: 19 Dec 92 23:28:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Dec19.232854.22907
Followup-To: poster
Organization: High Risk Ventures


Hey,

Is the Apple 13" RGB monitor interlaced or non-interlaced video?  I can't
find the answer in any of my books.

For the terminally curious, I need to know because I'm wondering why I get
a ghosting effect with my sprite animation when I update the screen every
other refresh instead of every refresh.  It's either an optical illusion,
or the monitor refresh is interlaced.

I set the followup field to poster because I don't normally read this group,
so if you want to follow up to the group, please cc to me.

Later,

Mike.
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From: buyskes@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Steve Buyske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Flopticals as start-up drives?
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:08:05 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College, Easton PA


Does anyone know if any of the floptical drives on the market function
as start-up disks?
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB 160/180 and PowerPort
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:47:17 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

merlyn@ora.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.202851.632@nntp.hut.fi> jmunkki@vipunen.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) writes:
>   I just got my PB160 today and immediately moved the PowerPort Silver modem
>   from my PB140 to the new machine. Unfortunately the software will not
>   recognize the machine as a PowerBook and refuses to load. The modem works
>   as a regular data modem, but I don't get the menu and there's no way to
>   send faxes.

>Yes yes yes.  You must have 1.0.6.  They Fedexed a disk to me for free
>right away when I called them.  Bravo to the GV people!

    Don't you mean 2.0.6?

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From: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu (Lowell B. Reiter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Hebrew World Script or IBM?
Date: 20 Dec 92 07:23:21 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

A friend ask me if he should get a 486 and just install Hebrew word proccesssors or a mac with worldscript Hebrew.  I konw he could never get a Mac of equal power for the same price and same power as a 486 (Don't shoot me... I'm stating a fact.  I happen to be pro-mac).  I just want to give him the best advice. Whjat are the advantages for worldscript...



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From: jbailey@world.std.com (jim bailey)
Subject: Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:12:58 GMT

ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>In article <Bz5uwI.LJ5@world.std.com> jbailey@world.std.com (jim bailey) writes:
>>ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>>>At least in Windows I don't have to dig through six layers of folders
>>>just to launch an app. Every Mac power user I know has to have some 
>>>kind of workaround (aliases - try explaining those to a novice - 
>>>launchers, weird inits that stick things under the Apple menu, you
>>>name it).
>>
>>In general you should be launching from a document, then you don't
>>care where the actual application is.  Actually always launching
>>the application is a holdover from less sophisticated shells.  If you
>>spent a little time unlearning bad habits and a little time learning
>>the mac way of doing things this problem disappears.

>Then tell me why about 70% of the time in our clusters when you click 
>on a WordPerfect 2.1 document file it comes up "Application is Busy
>Or Missing"? Does it have to do with something about Wordperfect 
>living on a server?

I don't know.  Perhaps your WordPerfect isn't set up to live on a server?
Apple has some guidelines for this but I wouldn't expect a PC company
like WordPerfect corp to do Mac applications well.  It is possible to
write network friendly apps on the Mac.

>>You also don't need any weird inits to stick things in the Apple menu,
>>you only need system 7.

>Then why did they have to stick BeHierarchic in the Extensions folder?

You didn't have to stick BeHierarchich in the extensions folder.  This adds
hierarchical menus to the Apple menu, not adding things to the Apple menu
in general.  There is no requirement to use BeHierarchic.

>>> How about .....?  Windows is simply
>>>>to painful to use for many things.

>>>So are Macs... what do you do when your numerous drive icons are 
>>>buried under a pile of windows? Shouldn't they have designed it to
>>>pop the icons up to the top when you bring Finder to the fore-
>>>ground? The Systems people have been relying too much on 10 year
>>>old ergonomic studies for the desktop.

>>Option click on the desktop.  Useful if you have two few monitors and
>>too many open applications.  There also is a really useful freeware app
>>called applicon that allows you to have an Icon for each open app and
>>a hot spot to pull the Icons to the top.

>Oh great.. Windows has this by default. What they really need to do is
>use the top menu bar as an appdock like the Next.

So, because it is different than the Windows default, it is no good?  This
leads back to the original point.  The Mac has a different way of doing
things, perhaps not better or worse than windows, but you can't reasonably
complain that the Mac is inferior because it does things different from
windows.
From: stuart@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Stuart R. Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: ESDI => SCSI Adapter
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:57:36 GMT
Organization: CCD - E4 - Drexel University

In article <1992Dec16.184415.18232@novell.com>, damurphy@wc.novell.com (Duane Murphy) writes:
> 
> 
> I am looking for a little help with a kind of strange situation.  I have 
> a 170MB external hard disk that is ESDI.  The person I got it from said
> it was out of an older Sun Workstation.  In the system I purchased from
> him, he said that he had formatted the drive to work with the Macintosh.  
> He sent the drive and an adapter.  I connected everything but the SCSI 
> bus keeps getting locked up (no drives are seen).  As soon as I
> disconnect 
> the adapter everything is fine.  

 It sounds like the SCSI bus isn't terminating properly. First check the adapter and see if it
allows you to switch in the termination, if it does, then turn it on and try the drive.
		Alternatly, you can buy an "inline" terminator, that you will have to place on the SCSI cable
between the computer and the adapter.
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