HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph D. McMahon)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:19:09 GMT
Reply-To: xrjdm@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
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In article <96296@netnews.upenn.edu>, rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
> 
> Hmmm.  I wonder why none of them said anything to me during the discussion
> period,
I did.

>during the vote,
I did.

>or even now.
Because it's pointless. I am tired of political correctness monitoring, 
flaming and arguments like this one which have nothing to do with the topic
of the group. "It's Usenet." I still don't like it.

As far as I can see, nothing will change. The rename will go through.
Anybody with access to mail may sign up on SYNTH-L to receive the r.m.s
gated mail until the link breaks, after which discussions will continue
at whatever level. People who want to speak to like-minded people will
sign up and participate (or lurk; there's no requirement to talk), or not.

The sky will not fall and life will continue. I started this link as a 
favor to a number of people who said they had no Usenet access, and 
because I had none at that time. I apologize to those that prefer news 
to mail, but there's no longer a reasonable return for my investment
of time.

>What lists?
SYNTH-L.

>Who are these maintainers?
Me. Maybe others. I don't know of any, though.

>Why didn't they say something during the discussion period?
I did. I followed up your post on the name change with a post describing
what would happen at least for a while on SYNTH-L. I maintain a link to 
r.m.s by the kindness of the folks at AU; since I don't help pay their
bills and am essentially leeching off them, I really don't like to 
cause them extra work.

I didn't and don't have time to launch a netwide "Save r.m.s" campaign; I 
do this in my spare time. And I now really no longer care. I only replied to 
try to stop all of the slanging going on. I appreciate the thought of
folks who would like to keep the r.m.s link going, but it doesn't really matter.
If someone wants to gateway the new group to a mailing list, I applaud
their public-spirited efforts. I'm just tired of the whole thing, Sorry.

-- 
                  Joe McMahon | How could you understand the animals' language?
                  P.O. Box 13 | How the rest-room is to be coloured?
            Lothian, MD 20711 | Which was the point to confuse Kandinsky?
xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov |                    ---  m.alexander@itec.spb.su
From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Copyright on patches
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:41:15 GMT
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University

Copyright applies only to expressions not ideas.  To claim a copyright you  
don't have to prove creative worth, only authorship.  A work has to be of  
a certain minimum size to be covered....e.g. you can't copyright a single  
word.  I once heard that only banks of patches can be covered under  
copyright not a single patch, but I don't know about the veracity of that  
statement...maybe its a myth.  But even if that is true, individual  
patches would still be protected.  

Changing a single byte of a patch doesn't remove it from copyright  
protection any more than changing a single word in a novel would.  All  
"derivative works" are covered under the original copyright.

Phil

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Re: This foul-smelling group namechange brouhaha.
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:10:28 GMT

Randy Jones (rej@sal.wisc.edu) wrote:
      *Please*, people. Rec.music.synth can be renamed soc.paul.lansky.
      appreciation.society.and.tearoom for all i care, so long as the 
      content remains similar, and the people who produce that content (bless
      their hearts) can migrate successfully. And i think we're all savvy
      enough to migrate successfully.

Not only that, but it's just a *name*, for crying out loud.  And I've seen
more interesting threads discussing what color you should paint your old
analog beasties.

LAiRD

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From: c91ander@IDA.LiU.SE (X)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Korg M1 Patches !!! / New Librarian
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:42:48 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.synth
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden


I posted here a few weeks ago, asking for Korg M1 Patches.
I'm not very impressed by the number of answers I got (3).
Is there really no one out there actually creating new sounds for the M1.
Or is the problem that people having created patches are so ashamed of
the result ...  ;-)

Or is the problem just that people don't have a program to dump sysex
data to their computer ( Everyone must have one those, or...) ?

If the proplem is the above mentioned, and you own an Amiga 500 then
let me know, and I'll send you a copy of my new sysex librarian (For
the Korg M1). (And hopefully you can then send me all your new patches :-))

I hope people with other computers can post here letting you know
about sysex librarians for your computer !!


And for those of you who haven't got a problem:
 Just send me your Patches.

( If you haven't got any new patches, but would like to have, just
let me know and I'll see what I can do :-)  )

                                        / Andreas


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: galbrait@spot.Colorado.EDU (GALBRAITH JOHN)
Subject: Peavey SP locks up!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:41:13 GMT

Well, I managed to lock up my Peavey SP.  Has anybody else
had this difficulty?  I had loaded in a new sample and
had been working on the DCA and gone on to play with
the filter.  As I was trying stuff out, the SP totally stopped
responding to anything and the disk drive light came on.
(Of course, my data was lost forever.  Oh well - I had just
started.)
	To prove it was not a random fluke, I did the 
same thing again.  I sampled my source again and changed
the DCA settings to what they were before the crash.  I went
on to the filter again, and there it goes. AGAIN. What is 
the deal?
	Both times it crashed when I was playing with the
"controller," a D50, trying different velocities.  Any ideas?
Software bug maybe?  I know a software upgrade is due.

hmm....
John Galbraith
galbrait@spot.colorado.edu
From: krw1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Kevin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: \*BAD\* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:51:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Most of them didn't even know a vote was going on...UNLIKE the American

Count me among those who were clueless about any vote.  Frankly, there's
so much noise in this group that it's hard to pick up on something like
that.  Perhaps another vote would be in order, now that the issue has
broken through the noise?
-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Proteus Patches - where?
From: alona@huji.ac.il (Alon Amit)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 13:37:15 GMT
Reply-To: alona@sunrise.UUCP (Alon Amit)
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunrise.huji.ac.il

Hi everybody!

(Fisrt posting, so I'm a bit shaking).

I'm looking for patches for my Proteus/1. The FAQ mentioned louie.udel.edu,
and they really DO have a directory called /pub/midi/patches/PROTEUS but,
to my dismay, I found out it was empty. If anyone has some, or knows where
any could be found, I'd appreciate being notified.

I think it's best to send e-mail to me, and I will summarize and repost.

THANKS!!

							- A. A.

(Neat signature soon...)

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jude@wk87.nas.nasa.gov (Jude George)
Subject: Wavestation EX questions
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:26:11 GMT

I recently had the opportunity to try out a Wavestation EX but came back
with some unanswered questions.

1.  Can the keyboard be split?

2.  Are the EX internals equivalent to the Wavestation SR?  Can it read
    ROM cards meant for the 01/W, like the SR can?

3.  How many patches does the EX have in ROM?  An old Korg brochure says
    484, but it's listed as having 550 in a recent catalog.  Are there
    "old" and "new" versions?

4.  Can the Wavestation EX receive SysEx information?

5.  Is there any software that can send new patches over MIDI from a Mac
    to the EX?

6.  I saw an ad for Wavestation patches on disk.  How would one load these?

7.  What is the best price you've seen for this keyboard, new?  Guitar
    Showcase in San Jose has it for $1590 or thereabouts.

Please email and I will summarize.

Many thanks,

Jude

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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: EPS and C-lab Question
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:07:56 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <charon.5@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>, charon@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (Mail Gateway) writes:
|> I'm having a problem using my patch select buttons when sequencing in C-
|> Lab  (The Atari version). When I press a patch select, it locks into 
|> the patch and it doesn't change back. 
|> 
|> Does anyone know how I can use the patch selects properly when sequencing. 

Lucky for you Ensoniq now distributes C-lab products in America.
Call their support line and ask them ...
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: GeneralMusic (GEM) S2 bugs
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:07:52 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, St Quentin en Yvelines, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Last Saturday I played a while with a GeneralMusic S2
synth (+) in a local store, and noticed bugs in the
Midifile import/replay function. The machine simply
hangs with most of the files I feed it, except for
very simple pieces. It happens with both format 0 and
format 1 files. Once it is hung, none of the buttons
work anymore. You have to cycle the power switch (BTW,
watch your ears; it sends out a violent noise when
turned off). It is sorry because it accesses MSDOS
and ATARI disks very nicely, allowing you to explore
them comfortably before choosing a file to load.

Is this a known bug? Are there any fixes for it?
The machine is supposed to be upgradable through
the diskette drive (it has a 2Mb sequencer memory
and also a 2Mb sample memory, so there should be
some space), but since the memory is not battery
backed it would be more convenient to have a ROM
upgrade.
The technical support (done by the importer, General
Music being Italian) is very unfriendly - basically
they require you to be a dealer to call them - so I
will have to wait sometime before having an answer
from a dealer - that is why I am asking the question
here.

(+) It is called GEM S2 in France. Nothing to do
with the old GUI by "Intergalactic" :-) Digital
Research. There are ads for it in the last Keyboard
magazines, but no review yet.
-- 
Adam Mirowski,  mir@chorus.fr (FRANCE),  tel. +33 (1) 30-64-82-00 or 74
Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
Subject: JV-80 for Sale
Organization: Taligent
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:28:05 GMT

Roland JV-80 Synthesizer
Multitimbral, great sounds
24-note polyphony, 8 instuments plus drum set 
Performance settings and built-in effects
Expansion cards available for new samples and patches

Asking $1250, excellent condition, 6 mos. old

FYI, retail is $1995, but Guitar Showcase in San Jose sells for $1499.  Also,
Musican's Friend in Medford, Oregon, also sells for $1499.
I'm selling it to get a separate controller and module.

Send email or call Jay at 408 862-7004 or 408 738-5627.

Jay_Tobias@Taligent.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: z3kpw@ttacs1.ttu.edu ("Wheeler, Kevin")
Subject: Casio keyboard auto-power-off question
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:15:00 CST
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Hey - I've got a Casio CT-680 which uses the same sound source as their other cu
rrent 12-bit department store machines.
I run the keyboard powered off an AC-DC adapter but the keyboard has a built-in 
auto-power-off "feature" which removes your MIDI channel settings when it shuts
down.  This is very annoying.  I know about the "hit the DEMO key to leave it on
" hint but then you still have to change the volume on the keyboard or the mixer
 which is a problem when you're trying to get your recording levels set.

So, I'm wondering if there's a way to defeat this?  I seem to recall hearing
about a method on certain models, but I don't remember what it was.
Any help is greatly appreciated.


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 03:42:07 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) writes:

>> A CFV is *never* "junk mail".
>
> You think all votes for all groups on the net are to be interested in?
> How much time DO you have on your hands? 

Enough time to read every RFD or CFV that's crossposted into a newsgroup I
have an interest in.  Just out of curiosity, Gordon, what groups do you
read that are constantly plagued with these bogus RFDs and CFVs you're
complaining about?

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: This foul-smelling group namechange brouhaha.
Organization: Space Astronomy Lab, Madison WI
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:55:36 GMT

*Please*, people. Rec.music.synth can be renamed soc.paul.lansky.
appreciation.society.and.tearoom for all i care, so long as the 
content remains similar, and the people who produce that content (bless
their hearts) can migrate successfully. And i think we're all savvy
enough to migrate successfully.

An attempt is being made to restructure the rec.music hierarchy; alright,
fine. Some upstart has no doubt decided that our ramshackle community 
lacks the beauty of logical layout. Like urban renewal, these kinds of 
improvements are an inevitable consequence of our collective obsession
with imposing order. Think of r.m.s as our old brownstone. We're wistful
over the old hearth, and some who cling doggedly to a sense of place 
will remain, squatting in the debris. But in the end we discover that 
moving always reveals new pleasures; the building is not the home.

-- 
| Randy Jones           | 
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu  |
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: 110v --> 220v transformer?!
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 18:43:43 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

awest@ub.d.umn.edu (The Piano Man) writes:

> I have two 'boards that I bought while living in Germany.  They run on 220v
> power, and I have since moved back to the US.  Anybody know where I can get a
> 110v --> 220v transformer, or have a better idea as to what to do?
> 
> I have looked inside, and I see no switches to change it as many electronic
> devices have...
> 
> Andrew
> awest@ub.d.umn.edu 
> 
> -- 
Depending on your machines, the transformers inside of them, may already 
be just stepping the 220V down to the 35V or so required by the Voltage 
regulators.
If this is the case, you can take that transformer out of the unit, and 
replace it with a 110V to 35V (or whatever the secondary voltage is).
 
Things to look for in converting the machines:
 
1) The transformer may have 4 leads on it's Primary.  If this is the 
case, then it's like a dual primary transformer. IE: 110V and 220V 
primaries.  (This was the case in the Korg MS-20, MS-50 and SQ-10 that I 
converted from European voltage to North American.)
 
2) Disconnect the transformers Secondary leads.  (The ones that connect 
to the circuit board in the synth) and test the voltage coming off of 
them, with a multimeter.  (First, borrow a Step UP transformer from 110 
to 220, to hook up to the machine's transformer).  If the voltage coming 
from the synth's transformer is between 24 and 36V then you can just pop 
in a standard 110 - ?? voltage.
 
3) Look for voltage regulators on the power supply board.  They will have 
part numbers like 7805, 7812, and 7815 for POSITIVE Voltage supplies and 
79xx for NEGATIVE.  They may also have prefixes such as LM, TI etc, and 
possibly suffixes.  They will also be black squares, with a metal tab at 
the top, and 3 pins out the bottom.  They may have heat sinks screwed 
onto them.  Finding these will tell you what range of voltage you should 
feed into synth.
 
One thind that none of this explains is the amperage that transformer 
should be able to supply.  For that answer, look on the back of the 
synth, where ever the little metal label is, that lists the power 
requirements.  This will tell you the amount of Milliwatts or Watts the 
machine requires.
 
Hope this helps.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Eirikur Hallgrimsson <eh@ranger.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: SYNC -to- MIDI ?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72694C79402C0D8@rahab.ljo.dec.com>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:45:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:45:17 GMT

In article <101441@bu.edu> Jonathan Disegi, jdisegi@bu.edu writes:
>I have several pieces of equipment that use the SYNC interface standard.
>Is there any way I can convert the sync signal into a midi signal?

Yes, a Roland SBX-10 is ideal for this.  Pay around $50.00 used; they are
not made
any more.  I have seen other Roland SBX models (fancier) but am not sure
if they provide this function.

The SBX-10 (many thanks to Edd Cote for copying his manual for me) does
Synch to MIDI, MIDI to Synch, and pulse to either, either to pulse.

Eirikur
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: scharf@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Ron Scharf)
Subject: DX7 Ram expansion schematic - NOT YET!
Organization: LRS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:09:34 GMT

Sorry folks,
I've been struck down by a flu last week... so please be a little more patient.
I haven't forgot 'bout the schematics!

Bye
	Ron
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: For Sale for friend
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:36:24 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Freeman String Symphonizer.  5 octave keyboard.  Ensemble (Chorusing) 
Vibrato; EQ; Volume controls and switches for high and low strings.
 
Buyer pays shipping.  (it's heavy - about $60 Cdn).
 
Best offer over $75 (not including shipping).
 
Five
From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:14:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Oberheim Matrix 1000 module questions
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

/ hpcc01:rec.music.synth / brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) / 12:20 pm  Nov  9, 1992 /
>>2/	Is it multitimbral?
>
>No.  6 voice.
>
Arrgh.  Typed that too fast.  It's not multitimbral, but it is 6 note
polyphonic.

Pete Brooks
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: Synth shopping
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:20:38 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Nov8.152107.21545@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA writes:

> 
> 
> Pinch yourself! An article to do with synthesizers and not usenet hegemony. 
> 
	[Gasp] You mean an article that follows the purpose of the 
group? ;)
> 
> questions:
> 
> - Is the Wavestation EX worth considering over the SY85?

	Well, I would say that the answer would require another 
question: Do you already have a good, generral
question: DO you already own a good, all around synth with 
"general-purpose" sounds that you like, good controller 
features, etc? The Wavestation series is a wonderful one, 
but I would advise listening to the sounds on each instrument
before choosing one over the other. Make sure to take future
expansion of your set-up into account, and shoot for somthing 
that will perform as a workhorse for your system.

> - Are there any other contenders I should consider?
	Yes, all of them. Listen to every single synth you can 
until you find one that's right for you. 



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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Eirikur Hallgrimsson <eh@ranger.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Nice dubbing-deck seen at low price.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A728357A6702C0D8@rahab.ljo.dec.com>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:23:22 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
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Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:20:45 GMT

Damark (might be COMB) has the Teac version (judging by appearances) of
the Tascam 202 dubbing deck for $129.00  If the past is any predictor,
this means that rack ears, and other accessories should be compatible.

And, you get a 10-day return policy.

But, I'm more sold on the Marantz PMD-500 (that stands for bucks).  Real
solid-looking, machine.  Wish I could see one locally.  I'm assuming that
this is the Phillips Marantz.
It's a true rack-mount, no ears, Dolby B,C, and HX-Pro.

Eirikur
From: mhall@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mike Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Looking for a Buchla
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:10:28 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Hi, all!  I'm posting this for someone I know...

Mike Peak is looking for a Buchla synthesizer.
If you have one you'd like to sell, or know of someone in that position,
please give him a call: 818-783-6415.

I'll pass messages on to him, also.

Thank you!


--
Mike Hall       708-393-6350
mhall@amiganet.chi.il.us