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From: mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd)
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Originator: mds5142@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:07:20 GMT

Up here in Rochester, stores have the play-only minidisc players for
$500 and the minidisc recorders for $700.  But currently, most places
are out of them and are handing out rainchecks.  The MD portable player
is sure much bulkier than I expected, although I couldn't pick it up so
I'm not sure how heavy it is.  The sound sure was fabulous though.  How
do they make MDs write-protected?  Is it similar to the little tab on the 3
1/2 inch diskettes?  The MD cases were certainly small too.  The single
drawback to this minituarizing and down-sizing is now there's even *less*
space for the art-work a band can put into a cover.

I also saw the DCC player which also had fabulous sound.  I didn't catch
the price on it though.  And if I did have the money for either one, I'm
really not sure which one I'd choose to buy, although it would probably
be the MD.  Is there a stereo sized component MD player, or is the
portable device made to become part of the system itself?  An MD component
would seem to defeat its main purpose, portability, so maybe that's a
stupid question.  Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what happens with
2 new formats out there.

Mike
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
From: joe@avs.com (Joe Peterson)
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Followup-To: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
Organization: Advanced Visual Systems Inc.
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:24:49 GMT

Ted Grusec (ted@dgbt.doc.ca) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec18.210014.22325@ll.mit.edu> rhoades@ll.mit.edu (Captain Chaos) writes:


: >Using MD for computer storage is an appealling idea.  Consumer electronics
: >formats have certainly crossed over before (DAT, VHS).  I'd argue, however,
: >that the audio user would actually use more blank disks than the computer
: >user.  Think about it:  I can fill up 74 minutes of sound easy, but it takes
: >me a lot longer to fill up 150 MB!  I toss out 150 MB as a guess at MD
: >capacity (CD-ROM=600+ MB, MD has ~1/4 the data a CD has).

: MD, and DCC both use lossy compression.  Therefore, they are TOTALLY
: USELESS for computer storage!>

The compression is just for audio!  Think about it: the digital data on
the disc represents a compressed form of the audio, but if used for
data storage, this is not the case!

				Joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: Dierk.Lucyga@popserver.uni-konstanz.de (Dierk Lucyga)
Subject: Re: Goldmine & Bootlegs...
Organization: Universitaet Konstanz Rechenzentrum
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:15:45 GMT

In article <Bz9n3I.GM6@rice.edu> starke@cs.rice.edu (Sean Starke) writes:
>From: starke@cs.rice.edu (Sean Starke)
>Subject: Goldmine & Bootlegs...
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:18:53 GMT


>  A fried of mine was looking through an issue of Goldmine
>and was amazed at the amount of advertising for what is
>obviously bootleg material (plenty of which he wants).

...stuff deleted...

There was an international treaty on copyright protection. For some reason 
the US didn't sign the part concerning cds and that's why you can find 
bootleg material on cd now advertised and that's also why you don't find ads 
for tapes or lps.

/Dierk Lucyga
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Gordon Lightfoot CD set
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:02:49 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel

In article <C03ELu.Fu5@fc.hp.com> jsm@fc.hp.com (John Marvin) writes:
>A short while ago I saw mention of a 3 CD set containing the first five
>Gordon Lightfoot CD's, digitally remastered. Someone claimed to actually
>have this set. Is it only available in Canada (no one here in the U.S.
>seems to know about it)?

[yes, and besides Spindle as recommended by Spencer Kantor, here are
two other possibilities to look into ... also, check my Canadian CD
versions list, updated and posted just before Christmas for imports
(to the U.S.) that are found as regular release up north.]

If you're looking for "import" CDs, Canada is also another possible
source before going overseas.  Nou Dadoun (dadoun@cs.ubc.ca), who
posts now and again, is connected to Black Swan Records in Vancouver,
B.C.  but cannot publicize that in first person due to USENET ethics.
Stuff from the Canadian CD Versions list and other imports are often
found as Canadian domestics due to different importation laws and
different market dynamics (smaller market, need more than mass volume
sales).  You can reach them at:

        Black Swan Records
        2936 West 4th Avenue
        Vancouver, B.C.
        CANADA   V6K 1R2

        (604) 734-2828
        (Pacific time, so you can wait 'til it's cheap to call)

     "... specialize in non-mainstream tunes, jazz, folk, world/ethnic
     music, etc. And for the last year or so, we've been spinning off
     a fairly healthy mailorder business."

Black Swan issued their first catalog this summer; while they
specialize in folk and "world" music, I'm sure that they can
easily order Canadian and "import" titles since they deal with 
the same distributors anyways.

I've never used him, as I can just call up my brother, and otherwise
only know him as a bloke on the net; his userid is not for business
usage, unfortunately.  I have no other connection to this guy, your
dealings would be strictly with him; this is just the easiest,
simplest, laziest way for me to connect you with a source up north.

Another place that comes from word of mouth recommendations is:

   THE CD BAR 
    1 (800) 663-1616 / +1 416 977 6863 (fax +1 416 977 6865)
    281 Queen St W.
    Toronto, Ontario M5V 1Z9 (CANADA)
        Imports from around the world, will ship anywhere. Visa, 
        Mastercard, no COD (no AMEX) checks (but you have to wait 
        for it to clear.)

gld
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From: angst@ucsb.edu (Hopelessly love)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Used CD Server
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:37:19 GMT
Followup-To: used-music-server@cs.ucsb.edu
Organization: Finnigan's Cheezy Combustibles and Lawnmower Emporium

The used CD (actually all media) server is located at 

		used-music-server@cs.ucsb.edu

Send email with subject HELP for info.

(Followups directed there, so watch out.)

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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,demon.local,bit.listserv.allmusic,comp.music
From: THOMASG@staff.tc.umn.edu (Thomas D.Gasser)
Subject: Re: CD Contains wrong music...
Organization: Department of Neurosurgery, University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:07:06 GMT

>What we're on about here is a serious error e.g. having the wrong *band* or
>wrong *album* on a CD, not just a track or 2 out of place...

>I hope this is a lot rarer, but I'm willing to be proved wrong !

Last year my parents bought a Classical Album.  When they played it is was 
Garth Brooks.

I guess it could have been worse.  It could have been a alot worse.




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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
From: mike@meiko.com (Mike Stok)
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Organization: Meiko Scientific Corp.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:48:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.162615.24629@wuecl.wustl.edu> amc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Adam Costello) writes:
>
>P.S. Does anyone know why magnetic disks are spelled with a "k", but
>     optical discs are spelled with a "c"?

The disc spelling seems to be prevelent in the audio/video
marketplace, where vinyl lps were sometimes referred to as discs, so
laserdiscs and compact discs fit into this scheme.  The people who use
disks for storing data needed a consonant at the end of the word which
wouldn't get softened when the "ette" suffix was added as disks went
to 8" then to 5" then to 3" (how would you pronounce discette...  ;-).
The gay abandon with which "technical" people re-model language is a
wonder to behold, I have heard a salesperson talk about "dollars per
megaflop" as if the acronym flops were plural...

ObDisclaimer: I don't claim to be any judge of linguistic accuracy,
just my 2...

Mike
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From: glaurent@aenegada.inria.fr (Guillaume Laurent)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: CD player with variable playback speed
Date: 27 Dec 92 10:54:23 GMT
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France



A friend of mine told me about a CD player that could play back CDs at variable
speed, just like some old tape recorders.
Unfortunately, he was unable to give me precise references.
If anyone has heard more about such a device, I'd be glad to know which firm
makes it, and how much (approximately) it costs.


						Thanks.
						Guillaume.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 22:02:27 EST
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: The Bongos?
 <1992Dec27.222842.17286@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>

In article <1992Dec27.222842.17286@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>, 2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (That Guy) says:
>
>In article <1992Dec24.101835.10194@u.washington.edu>                          edu (Clint Olsen) writes:
>olsenc@stein.u.washington.
>>I believe they had a song released called "Number With Wings".  If
>>anyone knows if they have anything available on CD, please email.
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>
>YES, PLEASE!!
>if anybody has ANY details about any of the Bongo's releases that are
>available on disc, tell me too.
>
>i have several of their efforst on vinyl, but would certainly appreciate
>any information about them on disc.
>
>the albums (vinyl) i have are:
>Drums Along The Hudson
>The Beat Hotel
>

_Drums Along the Hudson_ is listed as being re-issued by Razor & Tie
in the lastest (Jan/Feb 1993) Option.
-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

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From: rob@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert J Barth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,demon.local,bit.listserv.allmusic,comp.music
Subject: Re: CD Contains wrong music...
Date: 26 Dec 92 22:50:20 GMT
Reply-To: rob@sound.demon.co.uk
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: Sound & Vision BBS (UK) 0932 252323
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $

>>um.. that is, if on the cover it said the songs were in order ABCDEFGH, on
>>the CD they were EFGHABCD. At least they were all there..
>I have a CD (Culture Club's "First Four Years") that has the songs a
>bit shuffled orderwise versus the cover.
This is not unusual, I have several like that... the Pixies did that, e.g.
the CD says '26' the cover says '27'.
Hey even the Beatles did it, having completely different UK/US releases of
albums..  But this is down to the Group/Management/PR/Machine

What we're on about here is a serious error e.g. having the wrong *band* or
wrong *album* on a CD, not just a track or 2 out of place...

I hope this is a lot rarer, but I'm willing to be proved wrong !

-rob-

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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
From: yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Y.X. Liu)
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Originator: yxl5388@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:43:26 GMT

In article <LANCER.92Dec20180218@lizardo.WPI.EDU> lancer@lizardo.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett) writes:
>>>>>> "amc" == Adam Costello <amc@wucs1.wustl.edu> writes:
>amc> P.S. Does anyone know why magnetic disks are spelled with a "k",
>amc> but optical discs are spelled with a "c"?
>
>The general convention is that a disc is read-only, while a disk can
>be written and read...  At least that's the last I heard...

Actually from what I hear a 'disk' is square (floppy disk) while a
'disc' is round (CD-ROM disc).

=Fractalman
yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: Any Others Besides Compact Disc Connection?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:14:27 GMT

Hello,

I've logged into the Compact Disc Connection for ordering CD's, and find
that service to be intriguing.  One question:  are there other places
offering a similar type of service?

Thanks.

Jon Noring


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From: jongsma@esseye.si.com (Ken Jongsma)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: "I Believe in Father Christmas" by Greg Lake
Date: 25 Dec 92 16:33:11 GMT
Reply-To: jongsma@esseye.si.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Smiths Industries

In <BzsBK1.HJL@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:

>I know there are two versions by Greg Lake (singer from Emerson-Lake-and-
>Palmer, ELP) out there.  Does anyone know where one can obtain a recording
>of this song?  I hear it on the radio all the time these days.  I know that
>the Canadian group "Honeymoon Suite" did a cover of this as well a couple
>years ago, but Greg Lake's version is far better.


I bought a Christmas compilation tape a few years ago when I was in
Cambridge (UK). The catalog number on it was (EMI) TC EMTV 49, "It's
Christmas."

I wasn't impressed with the mastering though. It's recorded at a very
low level compared to the rest of the cassette. According to the label,
the song was written by Lake/Sinfield, copyright 1975.

The style is reminisencent of Pictures at an Exhibition, but talk about
a depressing song. I thinks it's the most negative Christmas song I've
heard.

The same tape has some interesting songs by other people: Kate Bush
does something called December will be Magic Again. Chris De Burgh
does something called A Spaceman Came Travelling.

Ken
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From: dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Please help
Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:34:45 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lager.cisco.com

I want to get myself into the mailing list of any CD mail order catalog. Can
Anyone give me phone number or address? Thanks.

Derek 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (ames)
Subject: comments on tom cochrane?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:35:15 GMT

hey... does anyone know anything about the tom
cochrane album that has the song "Life is a Highway"
on it? i was wondering if the rest of the album
is like it... or worth getting... or whatever.

thanks, mail back DIRECT.

amie

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From: u7817047@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Lennon)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Jimi Hendrix Rainbow Bridge CD
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:05:46 GMT

 When I heard Jimi Hendrix Play the national anthem of USA
  in the U2 album (Rattle and Hum),I was touched.
 If I want to buy One ( only one) Jimi`s CD. what should I buy?

anyone want to recommend one for me? Please mail to

 u7817047@ccsun6.cc.nctu.edu.tw 
 ( use the "r" in tin will be ok)

thanx........
From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Anyone seen Mini Discs in the UK yet ?
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:10:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

The UK release of Mini Discs was supposed to have been a couple of weeks ago
and yet I haven't seen either blank or pre-recorded Mini Discs or the hardware
either. What's happening ??

BTW, pre-recorded DCC is quite expensive in the UK (13.49-14.49 pounds - a
pound or two more than UK CDs !) and the cheapest blank DCC tape I found was
5.99 pounds.
 
Richard K. Lloyd, 
Computer Science Dept.,   JANET     : rkl@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci
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From: relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: New Wave:  The Europeans
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:23:30 GMT
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l

In the referenced article, olsenc@stein.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) writes:
>Hello:
>
>All of you were very helpful in finding titles and compilations,
>but nobody seems to know of any CD's by the Europeans.  They have
>a song called "The Animal Song."

As far as I know, there are no songs nor albums by the Europeans
available on CD.  And all their singles and albums are long out of
print.  Good luck.

	-- John
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: dennett@acadia.Kodak.COM (Charles R. Dennett)
Subject: Is there a CD FAQ?
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:13:45 GMT

Having just received a cd player for Christmas and being the 
technically curious type, I was wondering about some of the basics
on how the thing works.  Is there a FAQ or other regular posting
that might explain this, or would another group be more appropriate?

Charles Dennett          | Rochester Distributed Computer Services
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: kesslerm@columbia.dsu.edu (MICHAEL KESSLER)
Subject: Sony Discman Part Wanted
Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:12:49 GMT

	My Sony Discman has went out of order.  The circular piece that the
compact disk sits on is broken.  This is the round piece that sits on top of 
the motor.  If anyone has a broken Discman, and would be willing to part 
with this piece, let me know, please.

Mike K.
kesslerm@columbia.dsu.edu
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: PG: _Us_ soundquality?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 15:33:56 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <30DEC199201552875@loyola.edu> mglicksman@loyola.edu (Michael `SLAM' Glicksman) writes:
>In article <C00EoB.I9p@ns1.nodak.edu>, kruger@plains.NoDak.edu (Donovan Kruger) writes...
>>I don't know if my disc is a defect or what, but _Digginng_in_the_Dirt_
>>sounds REALLY BAD.  Among other songs, some of the percussion and the
>>guitar parts sound as if they were recorded in a hole in the ground
>>(muffled and almost non-existing).
>	I was unhappy with the sound quality of the CD also, most people that
>I've talked to feel the same way. I _think_ that I heard a rumor that the CD
>single of "Digging in the Dirt" was supposed to sound better then the album
>version(I could however be wrong about this).

No, the CD5 sounds very muddy also.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: CD player with variable playback speed
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 20:55:35 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

glaurent@aenegada.inria.fr (Guillaume Laurent) writes:

> If anyone has heard more about such a device, I'd be glad to know which
> firm makes it, and how much (approximately) it costs. 

Some of the consumer Denon decks of a year or two ago had +/-10% pitch
control, and ran in the $500 range.  I don't know if current models still
have it, though their DJ decks obviously do. 

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From: LCLAYHILLS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Leif Clayhills Mate)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD Contains wrong music...
Date: 2 Jan 93 11:15:12 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Well.. my favorite CD bug is on Acid Reign : The Worst of A. R. 

the CD starts with something like "How big is God? how...." with piano
and stuff... kinda different from their own style :) but it's just a 10 sec.
piece in the beginning as an own track... soo all songs r 1 after on the CD

Leif. 
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