HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart)
Subject: Re: Presidential candidate platforms available?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:19:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.174026.8684@sura.net> mtaranto@sura.net (Michael Taranto) writes:
>All the Campaign 92 info is at the UMD CWIS
>Telnet info.umd.edu
>Connect to Govt./US/Campaign 92
>

Thanks for the lead!

In the interest of accuracy, that should be "ftp" not "telnet", and the
directory is:  info/Government/US/Campaign92

Anyone know why there is no Republican platform filed there?
	a) info.umd.edu is a Democratic site
	b) the Republicans don't have one
	c) it is too soon after their convention?
	d) other??
From: brendan@cygnus.com (Brendan Kehoe)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Zen/Art of the Internet
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:56:15 GMT
Reply-To: brendan@cygnus.com
Organization: Cygnus Support, Palo Alto, CA
In-reply-to: acamberos@pimacc.pima.edu's message of 31 Aug 92 11:42:09 -0700

In article <1992Aug31.114209.6865@pimacc.pima.edu> acamberos@pimacc.pima.edu writes:

	   Where can I get a copy of the second edition of "Zen and
	   the Art of the Internet: a Beginner's Guide", ISBN 0-13-010778-6.

From any local bookstore; if they don't have it, they can order it.

The publisher is Prentice Hall.  If the store says it's not coming out
until October, tell them their databases need to be updated.  (I've
found in a few stores that one particular distributor, Ingram, has
that problem.  They do have the book stocked in a number of cities,
though; it's weird to see.)

Brendan
--
Brendan Kehoe                                               brendan@cygnus.com
Cygnus Support, Palo Alto, CA                                  +1 415 322 3811
                       Oooh! A handsome stranger! And me, without my shoes on.
                                     --The Princess, The Emperor's New Clothes
From: lory@bcrka399.bnr.ca (Lory McCafferty)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Internet access to/from Australia
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:05:14 GMT
Reply-To: lory@bcrka399.bnr.ca (Lory McCafferty)
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa

I am trying to convince my brother in Brisbane Australia to join the
real world and
get connected to the internet. Telephone service is very expense between Canada
and Australia!!!!!

He has a PC, modem and several telecom packages but he is lacking the
connection
to the internet either through a local BBS or some commercial service.

Does anyone have suggestions? Know of existing connections?? or Alternatives??

Any clues are greatly appreciated. 

Cheers

| Lory Neal McCafferty       | Internet : Lory@bnr.ca | My ideas......       |
| Bell Northern Research     | Phone : 613-763-4129   |                      |
| P.O. Box 3511, Station C   | FAX : 613-756-4845     | So there !!!!!!      |
| Ottawa, On. K1Y 4H7 CANADA |                        |                      |
From: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu (Ken Ficara)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:34:49 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt) writes:


>Well, GEnie doesn't charge ANYTHING for internal mail no matter how 
>much you send once you've paid the monthly subscription fee. :)  
>Sounds like GEnie is the place to do everything for mail. 

No. It's actually more cost-effective to subscribe to GEnie to send
mail to GEnie users, and to subscribe to either CompuServe or MCI Mail
to send mail to the rest of the world -- compare $9.95/month for GEnie
Internet access to CIS' $1.50 (if you don't go for their flat rate
plan) or MCI's $35. 

It's difficult to price a service so that it is overpriced for
EVERYONE, but GEnie has managed.
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: commercial use of Internet 
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:10:45 GMT
Keywords: internet imp

scoggin@snow-white.ee.udel.edu (John K Scoggin) writes:

>>If an organization charges its users for Internet access, is it
>>commercial or non-commercial ?
>>	
>	Hmmm.  I would say commercial in general.


This is incorrect. 

If it were correct, then the various regional service providers
who provide IP connectivity for a price would not be allowed to pass
any of their traffic over the NSFnet, since, after all, they would be
a commercial enterprise.

It is not the service provider, but the type of traffic passed, that
is the issue.

For instance, you can provide dial-up IP access for a fee. A student
researcher using said access for educational purposes would be allowed
to access the NSFnet. A CEO using the same service to communicate
daily bookings figures with regional offices would not be allowed
to access the NSFnet. In both cases, the IP provider is the same.

MD
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--  Domain: mpd@anomaly.sbs.com            /  parents never had it, chances 
--    UUCP: ...!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!mpd  /   are you won't either...
-- Telebit: +1 401 455 0347              /
From: revell@ghidra.UU.NET (James R Revell Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Pakistan internet situation? Is there any?
Date: 31 Aug 1992 17:21:07 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Reply-To: revell@uunet.uu.net (James R Revell Jr)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ghidra.uu.net
Keywords: pakistan internet university blah blah blah

In article <1992Aug28.125148.1331@u.washington.edu> hackerb9@carson.u.washington.edu (Yer Mom) writes:
} Does anybody know what (if any) internet access there is from Pakistan
} (particularly the University of Punjab and the University of
} Islamabad).

There is no IP access to Pakistan.  The PK domain has only been around
for a couple months now and as yet there are just two uucp gateways,
both connecting to UUNET.  I believe each of them connects to several
more organizations, but I've yet to see much traffic.

There is officially a EDU.PK subdomain, though the only educational
organization using it so far is the Syed Akhlaque Hussain Institute
of Computer Science, sahics.edu.pk, in Lahore.
-- 
James Revell	Network Services Mgr   <revell@uunet.uu.net>   /8^{~
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: billy@sol.acs.unt.edu (Billy Barron - VAX/UNIX Systems Manager)
Subject: Re: BigFun
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:55:59 GMT

emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:

>Hopefully this hypothetical person has developed some software which
>automates the task of connecting to 1000 libraries.  Though it might have
>been done ``frivolously'' to start out with, that's a tremendously
>valuable tool which could then be put to good use by serious researchers
>trying to find out serious things.  E.g. something that would connect to
>1000 places and test whether the collection included a certain copy of
>_Brunhilda_ - without the need for some poor soul to type in 1000
>different login scripts -- that's real valuable!  I have more than once
>tried to find something in catalogs by slowly and painfully telnetting to
>them one at a time.

I hate to even say this, but that is when you get with a library and have
them do an OCLC or RLIN search for you.  It will save you MEGA-time and be
more efficient.  True, there are some out of the pocket costs, but I would
rather pay $5 than do 430 searches (430 is REAL close to the actual number
of OPACs on the Internet right now).  Z39.50 may change my view on this
when it finally happens as we might have useful and efficient tools.  But
right now OCLC is the right tool and is designed for this.  Doing this kind
of search on the Internet is putting the square peg in the round hole for now.

I agree with Ed however that the experimental side of the net is there and
has to be taken into account.  Joe, what I do with those kind of letters you
are getting is either send back a form letter (send me mail about where to get
my library guide and you get a form letter for sure) or file it to NL: (I know
you are at least a part-time VMS person so I didn't say /dev/null :-).

Billy

Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore)
Subject: Re: Company name database?
Followup-To: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:51:39 GMT

In article <MTH.92Sep3090538@neptune.dsc> mth@neptune.dsc (Michael T. Heins) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a publicly accessable database of company names
>on the internet?  The desire would be to check new candidate company names
>for uniqueness within the US.
>
>--
>
>Michael T. Heins  (mth@dsc.com)
>	"If we do not succeed, then we run the risk of failure."  -- Dan Quayle
>-- 

Sorry to use the bandwidth, but I've exhausted my ingenuity and can't avoid
email bounce syndrome. 

If you are the Michael Heins who used to be at TRW and moved to Goleta,
please email me- I'd like to get an address on you that won't bounce!
Regards-

-- 
Larry A. Gilmore             Internet: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com
TRW SEDD, DH1/2849
P.O. Box 6213                Phone:    (310)764-3318
Carson, CA 90746             Fax:      (310)764-3946
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: mhpower@athena.mit.edu (Matt Power)
Subject: Re: Akita net
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:29:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.032631.29406@cs.wisc.edu> chavey@jalapeno.cs.wisc.edu (Darrah Chavey) writes:
>In article <Stafford-240892131210@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
...
>>Akita University Information Network (NET-AKITANET) AKITANET  158.215.0.0
>      ..., hence it is a new entry, and none of the 3 machines I tried
>from could finger to that site.

What site? It's probably not useful to finger 158.215.0.0; that's a
network number, not a host's IP address. Also, the DNS doesn't have an
IP address for akitau.akita-u.ac.jp.

But, "whois -h whois.nic.ad.jp akita-u.ac.jp/e" lists two hosts in the
role of "Domestic Nameserver", and they both show an IP address of
158.215.8.2 for akitau.akita-u.ac.jp. There still doesn't seem to be
IP connectivity to there, though.

>      ... administrator (Masato Sakata, sakata@akitau.akita-u.ac.jp, phone
>+0188 33 5216), so you can always try to write him. (At least if your mailer
>will be able to recognize that address yet.)

It should be recognized by a local "mailer" if only because there's a
wildcard MX record for *.ac.jp. Whether mail is currently getting
through to Akita University, however, is harder to tell from here.

Matt
Xref: sparky alt.internet.services:622 alt.internet.access.wanted:314
From: johannes@i11s11.ira.uka.de (Johannes Feulner)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,alt.internet.access.wanted
Subject: Re: Gateway to Minitel? (and BTX)
Date: 31 Aug 1992 12:56:23 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i11s11.ira.uka.de
Keywords: BTX Minitel
Originator: johannes@i11s11


In article <827@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk>, ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk (Philippe Goujard) writes:
|> Peter.Gorny@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Peter Gorny) writes:
|> 
|> >thomson@fluky.mitre.org (Duncan Thomson) writes:
|> 
|> >>Does anyone know how to get from the internet to/from the French
|> >>MINITEL network?

There is a Gateway between the French MINITEL network and its German pendant
BILDSCHIRMTEXT (BTX). And there is also a Gateway between BTX and the Internet
which is operated by FUN!, a BTX service provider. As far as I know its
still in an experimental phase and will go on the air next January.

The Gateway offers telnet, ftp and usenet access.

The address of FUN! is:

	FUN! GbR
	Klaus Nahr/Internet
	Schuetzenstr. 11
	D-7500 Karlsruhe 1 
	GERMANY

	FAX/PHONE: (49)721-359763
	EMail:     klaus@pf.sub.org

Johannes
From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Getting Supercomputer Time?
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:49:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
>One of the things our site will be looking at in the future is
>helping our reserachers gain or help to gain supercomputer time.
>I have the Internet Resource Guide's section on supercomputers
>but would like to know if anyone has any tips to offer on the
>matter.

      If you don't have enough clout to get at least 1% of a supercomputer,
you're probably better off getting a high-end workstation (100 MIPS or
above) and doing it there, rather than waiting in line for a tiny fraction
of the big machine.  Silicon Graphics, HP, and Sun all have products
in that class, and the prices are getting quite reasonable.  

					John Nagle
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: bkush@us.oracle.com (Brian Kush)
Subject: Re: Internet to x.400
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:50:50 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Part of the problem you might have is that MCI charges for outbound mail.
I you are a MCI subscriber, you can receive a message from the Internet to your
MCI mailbox for free, but you are charged based on the size if you send one
from your MCI Mailbox to the Internet.

I do not know wheather your friend is a MCI subscriber or not, but if he is
not, MCI might not be forwarding a message from the Internet thru MCI to 
whatever network your friend is on without sombody to charge for it.

x.400 is not a network, just a form of addressing.

-- 
Brian Kush  --  Oracle Corporation  --  bkush@us.oracle.com
From: hackerb9@carson.u.washington.edu (Yer Mom)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Pakistan internet situation? Is there any?
Keywords: pakistan internet university blah blah blah
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:51:48 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Does anybody know what (if any) internet access there is from Pakistan
(particularly the University of Punjab and the University of
Islamabad).

Benjamin
From: adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:14:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Thus spake Darla@cup.portal.com (Kuby - Downs): 

>Just learning about the gateway results in many downloads from the
>PAY Unix board, of which Andy is the sysop.
>
	Actually, we have a discussion of the subject going in the GENIEuse
RT/BB (which is a basic service) that is free and rather thorough. Of course
the files ARE available on Unix - but they are also available here on
Internet via ftp.

	GEnie is ripping people off on the Internet Gateway, but other than
that it is one of the best priced services available anywhere - you simply
can't beat the value you get for your $4.95/mo base rate!

	Actually I've had several people contact me since this discussion
started asking about GEnie membership - and I've invariably reccomended it
to them (I have a prepared file I created on how to sign up and what's
available if anyone wants it - and yes it DOES include instructions how to
register using the BUDDY signup - which earns online credit for the sponsor
- but it includes instructions on how to sign up without giving credit as
well - I created it because I got tired of retyping the same information).

	CI$ offers a better deal if all you want is Internet EMail - but so
does MCI Mail. For everything else available on a commercial network, since
bix dropped its flat rate unlimited access structure, GEnie offers the best
bang for the buck!

-- 
    rick.adams on GEnie   /|\        You are right from your side,        
     adamsr@netcom.com  /  |  \        And I am right from mine.          
    adamsr@irie.ais.org \ /|\ /  We're both just one too many mornings,   
   adamsr@norwich.bitnet  \|/  And a thousand miles behind. (c Bob Dylan) 
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: deej@cds8613.Cadence.COM (Jim Howard)
Subject: Re: How do you use the "post to Usenet by mail" service?
Reply-To: deej@cds8613.Cadence.COM (Jim Howard)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:23:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.105829.20368@access.usask.ca>, dzubin@skorpio.usask.ca (Thomas Dzubin) writes:
|> 
|> I'm losing this account in less than a week and I have recently heard
|> of a 'generic' service for posting to *any* Usenet newsgroup by EMAIL.
|> Can someone fill me in on the details?
|> 
|> My future Internet account only has read-only access to Usenet.
|> 
|> mail to: tdzubin@cue.bc.ca
|> 
|> Thomas Dzubin
|> tdzubin@cue.bc.ca

    (Actually, Thomas, I think the answer to your question is in the FAQ for
this group)

    I'm looking for something from the other end of things.  If I don't have
access to a news group, how can I get it via e-mail?  I've heard this is the
place to get that kind of information, and I've seen people ask the same
question, but never a reply...
    And yes, I've read the FAQ for this group.  Either I'm blind, the info's
not in there, or it's cleverly hidden.  Can anyone give me pointers on how
to accomplish what I'm after?

-- 
         ~ deej ~              | (If I were expressing Cadence's opinions, )
Jim Howard -- deej@cadence.com | (they'd probably make me wear a tie...    )
        (^:=             Flames cheerfully ignored.             =:^)
"But we might still survive, and rise up through the maze
 If you could change your life, and never be the same" -- Crowded House
From: brendan@cygnus.com (Brendan Kehoe)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Country code suffixes list.
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:32:11 GMT
Reply-To: brendan@cygnus.com
Organization: /s1/users/brendan/.organization
In-reply-to: chavey@jalapeno.cs.wisc.edu's message of 27 Aug 92 22:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.220200.26725@cs.wisc.edu> chavey@jalapeno.cs.wisc.edu (Darrah Chavey) writes:

   For my own interest, I recently compiled a list of 71 "country codes", the
   suffixes used in domain names and internet addresses. (e.g. al=albania ...
   yu=yugoslavia). Two questions:

   1) Is there an easy way to find or generate such a list?

Actually, it's already done.  It's an ISO standard (3166).  (They're
the ones that made them up.)  It's on relay.cs.toronto.edu in /info.

The full list is also an appendix to the second edition of ``Zen and
the Art of the Internet: A Beginner's Guide'', ISBN 0-13-010778-6. :)

Brendan
--
Brendan Kehoe                                               brendan@cygnus.com
Cygnus Support, Palo Alto, CA                                  +1 415 322 3811
                       Oooh! A handsome stranger! And me, without my shoes on.
                                     --The Princess, The Emperor's New Clothes
From: de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: BigFun
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:37:28 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN

One shouldn't publish a list of services that aren't really available to the
public.  Granted, the service provider should control access, but under no
circumstances should one advertise a service at another site without verifying
that the service is open to the public.

-- 
Dave Sill (de5@ornl.gov)	   For every Bill Joy there is a Kirk McKusick.
Martin Marietta Energy Systems     For every Bill Gates there is a Richard
Workstation Support                Stallman.                     --Paul Graham
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,comp.misc,biz.comp.services,alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Updated Internet Services List
Date: 1 Sep 1992 00:59:14 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I have a batch of these in my gopher (gopher.msen.com) under

	MSEN gopher
	 Lots of Interesting Things
	  Special Internet Services (from Scott Yanoff)	
	   ...

just fyi,

--Ed
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: mtaranto@sura.net (Michael Taranto)
Subject: Re: Presidential candidate platforms available?
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:40:26 GMT

All the Campaign 92 info is at the UMD CWIS
Telnet info.umd.edu
Connect to Govt./US/Campaign 92


Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: jhunter@mta.ca (John Hunter)
Subject: What does this number mean?
Reply-To: jhunter@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:35:59 GMT

Hello,

I'm fairly new to the internet and have a simple question.

If I'm attempting to telnet to machine.domain ####
                                              ^^^^
                                         What's this for?

Thanks in advance,
-John 
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Re: Presidential candidate platforms available?
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:56:58 GMT

In <1992Sep1.174026.8684@sura.net> mtaranto@sura.net (Michael Taranto) writes:

>All the Campaign 92 info is at the UMD CWIS
>Telnet info.umd.edu
>Connect to Govt./US/Campaign 92

And it's available via gopher as well.  Just connect to info.umd.edu,
port 70, using your favorite gopher client..
--
 | Paul Lindner | lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu   | Slipping into madness
 |              | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
 | GopherMaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
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From: n.margetic@ucl.ac.uk (Nino Margetic)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: RFE/RL Daily reports
Summary: How to get reports...
Keywords: Radio Free Europe/ Radio Luxemburg
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:19:40 GMT
Reply-To: nino@mph.sm.ucl.ac.uk (Nino Margetic)
Organization: University College London
Status: OR

Hi,

I feel a kind of stupid since yesterday (or day before yesterday)
there was a note in one of the groups about this, but in the meantime,
it expired :-((

Anyway, what I am trying to get to is the Radio Free Europe/Radio
Luxemburg daily bulletins which are delivered via e-mail. I know that
one can get them via RUSSIA@INDYCMS.EARN group (send requests to the
LISTSERV@INDYCMS.EARN), but there is also a lot of 'noise' on that
list which is of no interest to me. I tried the advertised address
rferl-daily-report-request@rferl.org, but the mail bounces back. I
tried also postmaster@rferl.org as well as postmaster@muvax.rferl.org.
I also tried muellen@rferl.org - address advertised by the whois
server. They all bounce back. 

If I tell you that I received today's bulletin this morning via RUSSIA list,
which was sent from the officially advertised address for contact (the
first, blah-blah-request@rferl.org address), then you will get the complete
picture...

Can anyone enlighten me, as to what the heck is going on?

Thanks.

--Nino

P.S. The aforementioned .EARN domain is a synonim (at least here in the UK) 
for the .BITNET domain


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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,comp.misc,biz.comp.services,alt.bbs.internet
From: georgen@irma.cs.mun.ca (George Noel)
Subject: Re: Updated Internet Services List
Summary: getting an account
Keywords: help!
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:42:07 GMT

> -Lyric/Music Server 	ftp cs.uwp.edu
>			ftp ftp.iastate.edu (/pub/lyrics)
>   offers: Lyrics, chords/tablature, and music pictures. (/pub/music/...)

 How do you gain access to this server? How do you apply for an account and
 password? Could someone please E-mail me on how to do this.
  
   I am looking for the words to Madonna's "Vogue" and Right Said Fred's
   "I'm too sexy" in case someone wishes to look them up on this server and
   also send them to me in E-mail.
    
    georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca