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From: rrg@rtp (Rhonda Gaines)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: bowling while pregnant?
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:51:56 GMT
Organization: FiberCom, Inc., Roanoke, Virginia


Have any of you bowled while pregnant and if so for how far into
your pregnancy (I'm currently 16 weeks). My OB said not to lift 
anything over 25 lbs not because I would hurt my pregnancy but may 
hurt myself.  My bowling ball is 10-12 lbs and my husband thinks I 
shouldn't bowl since I may get hurt swinging the ball.  I'm obviously 
going to ask my OB about it but wanted to hear from the netters also.

 -rhonda

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From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: I want MOMMY do it!
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:45:21 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <TIGGER.92Apr5010800@satyr.Sylvan.COM>, tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan) writes:
> Also be sure you are giving your 3 year old some true chunks of
> 'quality' time. Getting a glass of juice or whatever is going to tie
> you up, but won't really satisfy her need for you. 

Amen to this!  We also have a new (well, 5 1/2 months "new") baby and a 3 year
old.  I've found that it is all too easy to get caught up in tasks and chores
and forget about how radically life has changed for the older sibling from when
life was a couple (him and me) affair.  So we started some little
rituals--breakfast out together every Sunday just the two of us, he goes with
me to get groceries, since he is the big helper of the family, etc.  Last
Sunday we took ourselves to the annual fair and had a wonderful time: popcorn
and orange soda at 10 a.m., petting all the animals and the wonderful discovery
that at last somebody else in my family likes the giant Ferris wheel! :)

Ann Helmers
From: las@ai.mit.edu (Lynn Stein)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Any babies out there actually *like* rice cereal?
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:12:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: puffies.LAS.92Apr6131250
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Reply-To: las@ai.mit.edu (Lynn Andrea Stein)
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: ctopp@cup.portal.com's message of 31 Mar 92 05:49:00 GMT

Re:  mixing rice (or other) cereal with breast milk.  While there's
nothing wrong with this from a health standpoint (in fact, it's
probably extremely nutritious), new parents may wish to know that
breast milk contains enzymes that partially break down the cereal.  As
a result, the cereal mixed with breast milk may be *very* watery.
Again, nothing wrong with this, but we found it almost impossible to
achieve a good consistency with breast milk and wound up using other
liquids to make cereal (which Sara then spat out anyway :o) )

                                          Lynn 

                                          las@ai.mit.edu
From: seidel@erg.sri.com (Craig Seidel)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Why do they call me "Daddy"?
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:13:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: erg.1992Apr6.221317.16787
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

In article <1992Apr4.055046.28481@cbnewse.cb.att.com> elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen) writes:
>I'm puzzled.  My older boy called me "Daddy" during
>his toddlerhood, and now the younger one (5 years separation)
>is doing the same!
>
> ... more discussion of this
Perhaps, your child heard you talking about "daddy" more than other people
talking about "mommy," a situation especially true when mom stays home.
"Daddy" may take on the meaning "parent."

Anyhow, I thought it was "mama" and "not-the-mama" :-).

-Craig
Newsgroups: misc.kids

/ nmtrain:misc.kids / bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas) /  5:57 am  Apr  7, 1992 /

My 5.5 year old son, Jeff sustained trauma to one of his front
teeth.  An absess is forming in the space between the traumatized
baby tooth and the permanent tooth above it.  Since Jeff's permanent
tooth is compromised by the absess, the dentist recommended
extracting both of Jeff's front teeth.  (He recommended extracting
BOTH teeth as it is likely that if one of the baby teeth remains in
place, the permanent tooth (the one above the absess) will come in
at an undesirable angle).)

My question is about anaesthetics.  The dentist scheduled Jeff for a
local. There are two reasons for why I'd want to consider something
a little stronger.  The first is obvious: I want to cause Jeff as
little anxiety and pain as possible.  This is his first major
experience with the dentist and I'd like him to remember it without
pain and fear.  The second reason is that I think that it would be
nearly impossible to keep Jeff still throughout the procedure.  He
has difficulty staying still for an x-ray and keeping the aparatus
in his mouth let alone sitting through something as unpleasant as an
extraction and the work that they'd have to do to rid him of the
absess.

Anyway, I don't know the technical term for the alternative, but we
always called it "laughing gas."  Is this a viable alternative in
general?  Is it viable considering Jeff's age (5.5 years)?

If you have any experience with such procedures personally or with
your own children, PLEASE pass them along.  The extractions are
going to happen soon and I'd like info about them before beginning
the process.

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.  Thanks so much...

Barbara
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From: davem@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu (Dave Mentis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: At what age is day care appropriate?
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:32:13 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Apr09.203424.905143@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.205632.25925@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> lauraf@notavax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom) writes:
>>
>>In case anyone is wondering, I would love to stay at home with Jeffrey. It
>>just isnt possible. I am lucky, my mother takes care of him while I work,
>>and is full of love and patience.

[ deleted for brevity ]

>>If my mom hadnt decided it was time to
>>retire, so she could watch Jeffrey, I am sure I would have found a wonderful
>>person to care for him.

Exactly!

>Yes, you ARE lucky.  You are choosing to have a family member care for your
>child.  This is the equivalent of having a parent care for the child.  Your
>mother shares your values, your ethics, and is not going to disappear.

My wife holds the same values, same ethics I do, and is not going to
disappear. I can't speak for anybody else's criteria for marriage, but
we don't hold the same values because we've been married for 12 years.
We've been married for 12 years because we (always) held the same values!

We CHOSE each other, to spend an entire lifetime together. Tell me why
it's catagorically impossible for me to choose a baby sitter with the
same care.

  -- davem@cs.umr.edu  (Dave Mentis)
From: larrabee@cse.ucsc.edu (Tracy Larrabee)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Working full-time out of choice
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:55:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)

From recent postings:

    I think Daniel gets much, much, and much more out of us since
    we work full time.

and

    I think you need to take some Child Psychology courses, b/c obviously,
    you don't understand at all the developmental stages your son is
    going through.

and

    I feel lucky that YOU weren't my parents.  

How could this conversation possibly do anything but make people feel
defensive and resentful--no matter what their side of the argument?
If you read "The Gentle Art of Self Defense" you find the claim that
the first person to degenerate to verbal abuse in an argument is the
loser.  If that is the case, then the very first poster lost the
argument with her initial post.  Of course, that hasn't kept other
people from getting even more out of hand.

There is no point to this.  People want to write to support their own
positions as pure ego-salving: they couldn't possibly want to persuade
other people or they wouldn't go out of their ways to be so damn
obnoxious.  Everyone who reads this group represents a family: a
family that makes personal and private life decisions in a context
that is probably unknown or unclear to anyone else who reads the
group.  We have no reason to fault other people's personal life
choices--life is just too complicated to transfer simple, blanket
solutions blindly to people we have never met. 

I think it is legitimate to post something like "I've made this
personal choice, and I would love to hear some support and feel some
solidarity with others who have made the same choice," but it is not
legitimate to post something like "I've made this personal choice, and
I just want to say that anyone who wouldn't make the same choice is a
rotten parent and probably guilty of child abuse."

Is there a FAQ for work situations?  The reason I ask is that having the
circumcision FAQ seems to have cut down on some of the flaming on that
subject.

Finally, as an attempt at a constructive suggestion, I read and enjoyed
(though have not had a chance to apply) T. Berry Brazelton's book
on balancing work and childcare.  I think it was called "Working
and Loving."  I will get the full citation if anyone is interested.

---
Tracy Larrabee		larrabee@cse.ucsc.edu
From: pgallant@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Seeking natural fiber maternity clothes
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:17:32 GMT
Distribution: usa

From article <1992Apr13.190644.20943@colorado.edu>, by mwalker@taimyr (Marilyn Walker):
> I am looking for a catalog that carries moderately priced, attractive, 
> maternity clothes, primarily made of natural fibers.  I became very 
> discouraged after looking through store racks of mostly polyester 
> blends with very little selection.  In a mid-size city we have only a 
> few stores that even carry maternity clothes.  Wearing polyester 
> feels like dressing in a plastic bag to me, and add that to being 
> pregnant during the summer....
> 
> Any suggestions, information (besides making my own clothes - I'd 
> never finish before the baby came) are most welcome.


You can actually get away with little materity clothes until the last few
months with today's style.  Try some lycra stretch pants and biker shorts
in a bigger size.  They stretch well and are very comfortable.  There are
so many styles of oversized t-shirts, get several.  Make sure they are
wide enough not just long enough.  Also I've still seen some trapeze dresses
and shirts that would be perfect for a growing belly.  You can also find
pull-on cotton maternity pants at most discount department stores.

Good luck and have fun.


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From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: car capsules, hoods etc.
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:09:25 GMT
Organization: Sylvan Associates

In article <cathyn.702984628@ccadfa> cathyn@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (The Crystal Singer) writes:

   Our baby is due in about six weeks time and we've just finished
   a series of parenting classes at the hospital.  One of the things
   which came up was the whole issue of baby capsules.  We found out
   that you should never ever carry the baby around in them, they
   should only be used to transport the baby in the car.  What really
   horrified me was the revelation that added extras like capsule hoods
   and pretty frills and pillows reduce the safety of the capsule in the
   car (especially the hood, because it reduces the air flow to the
   baby).

Hmm. In this country, there are some brands of INFANT seats that are
designed to be used in and out of the car. They have handles and are
meant to be carried. I think the 'danger' of carrying your child in
them is that they are bulky and hard to handle, (those not designed to
be carried) and so you are more likely to drop the whole thing. Even
the infant seats are kinda heavy and bulky, but it's handy to be able
to carry the sleeping infant into a resturant and keep him/her that
way.

The only shade hood I've seen is full of holes, much like the kind
that can be attached to the window to provide shade. I had one on
Kathy's window, which she broke as a 2 year old playing with it. For
Robin, I've used a thin blanket draped when I've needed to -- let me
tell you that an awake baby will likely start screaming if you don't
get the sun out of their eyes. A toddler will, too.

I think the crescent shaped pillow that goes over the baby's head and
to either side (preventing the head of a newborn from flopping wildly
back and forth whenever you turn the bend) wouldn't really compromise
the safety of the seat. How would it? If anything, the baby's head
might bounce sideways a little less...

I heard a safety lecture saying that if you need to pad your baby in
the seat, to use folded or rolled baby blankets - that they are the
safest. But I have no idea why that would be, either.

From what I've seen of the toddler seats I've had (that claim to fit
the baby from 7 or 8 lbs through 40 lbs) they don't work well for
newborns. My 8 lb 2 oz daughter was crumpled behind the plastic shield
of her seat, had we stopped short, her little face would have smashed
into the plastic guard - how safe can that be? We went and bought an
infant seat to use until she was bigger.

Just my .02  I'm surely not an expert, nor do I know exactly what you
have available...


-- 
Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 2.6 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory <born 2/28/92>)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
children become humane and strong."

             - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
From: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names wanted for my baby
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:46:51 GMT
Reply-To: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)


Well this thread is just too hard to resist.  I have a situation very similar  
to Laura's.  I have sent email directly to her, but I thought I'd post as well.

My husband and I are expecting a baby -- sex unknown.  Girl names are a piece  
of cake.  Boy names are really tough.  We really don't like traditional names  
like Jeff or Dave or the more recent popular names like Tyler or Zachary.   
(These names are OK, but just don't work well with our last name.)

We want a name that is unique but masculine.  (Tall order, I know.)

We are planning to use Antun as the middle name -- this is a tradition in his  
family -- it's the arab version of Anthony -- the name of my husband's  
grandfather. Our last name is Zakhour -- pronounced za-khore where the kh is  
sort of gutteral and the emphasis is on the second syllable -- it's really  
pretty when pronounced right.  The origins of this name are Turkish-Arab from  
the stories I can glean.  Someone even told me it's a Byzantine name.  At any  
rate it's from the Middle East and when we went to Turkey and Egypt last fall  
no one had any trouble pronouncing it for once.  :-)

Like Laura we would also like the first name to have a Z or an X in it.  We've  
been thinking of using a Greek name (both my husband and his sister have Greek  
first names) but we have had a hard time finding good Greek names.  All those  
name books have TONS of American, Irish, Celtic, Jewish,... names.  We have yet  
to find one with many Greek names.

We've been considering this one name but, although my husband likes it, I'm  
still on the fence:

Zenon Antun Zakhour

What do people think?  Can anyone suggest any other unusual and interesting  
names along these lines?  (We really want the whole name to flow and work  
together.  It has to sound good to be seriously considered.)

I would appreciate any suggestions.  Like Laura and the previous poster I guess  
we can come up with a reward also.  How about if I mail the winner (if any)  
some See's truffles?  (Now I expect some seriously good suggestions.  :-)

Sharon

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Extraction of baby teeth
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:58:08 GMT
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Followup-To: misc.kids
Distribution: usa
Organization: I would rather be windsurfing.
In-reply-to: kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM's message of 12 Apr 92 21:08:06 GMT

>	Speaking personally, the nitrous oxide (?) scared the hell out of
>   me.  I had it when I was in 7th grade and had some cavities filled. 
>   The dentist gave me Novacaine for the jaw, and gas to keep me calm. 
>   It did mellow me out, but I hallucinated rather badly.  For instance,
>   at one point I watched the dentist's eye come off his face and float
>   around the room, staring at me the whole time.  This is not something
>   I'd wish on anyone as young as Jeff.

I vaguely remember suffocating and trying to gasp for air.  What I'm
told was happening was a rather violent struggle involving the
dentist, anesthesiologist and several nurses trying to keep the mask
on me.  I, however, have no memory of this.

On another occasion, when put under via injection instead of gas, I
had a similar reaction when coming back out.  I, again, remember
nothing but trying to stand up.  What I'm told was happening was I was
yelling and screaming for help and trying desparately to leave.  They
say everyone in the waiting room was somewhat taken aback by what
sounded like someone being tortured -- as if the kids weren't scared
of the dentist enough as it was.

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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jareed@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Judith Ann Reed)
Subject: question on children's song
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 13:06:43 EDT

When I was a child, we sang a song that went (more or less)

 This is the way we wash the clothes,
 wash the clothes, wash the clothes
 This is the way we wash the clothes,
 so early Monday morning

 This is the way we dry the clothes,
 dry the clothes, dry the clothes
 This is the way we dry the clothes
 so early Tuesday morning.

 There are verses for each day of the week, along with associated
 movements. Anyone know the rest of the words, or any of the movements? 
 I have images of mommies and daughters
 in 50's style dresses doing laundry and house chores, must have gotten
 these from children's books of the period. 

 Thanks for any help you can send!

 Judith Reed
 judith@suhep.phy.syr.edu
 jareed@rodan.acs.syr.edu
 Mom to Sarah (2), Amber (9) and Tanya (14 going on 21)

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner)
Subject: Re: TAX for maternity leave
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:40:00 GMT
Reply-To: tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner)

In article <1992Apr8.184135.5617@ready.eng.ready.com>, tai@hawk.eng.ready.com (Josephine Tai) writes:
|> 
|> 
|>   I do not know whether this is the right place to ask my question.
|> If not, I apology.
|> 
|>   During my maternity leave, I received two checks, one from SDI, 
|> another one from Group American Insurance Company. Someone told
|> me that I do not need to pay TAX for these two checks. I also
|> have been told that SDI check is taxable, but Insurance company 
|> check is exempt. Which one is correct? But now, both of them 
|> are showing on my W2 form as regular wages. Does anyone on the
|> net know what is the right answer?
|> 

I was on maternity leave and was paid by SDI and an insurance
company--I called and neither of them are taxable!  I don't
know how they could ever have showed up on a W-2 as they werent
paid by your company--I assume you paid into the disability
and you definitely pay into SDI--which is why they are not
taxable.

Leigh Ann
From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Name Origin Saught - Dosty
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:01:59 GMT

I'm sorry if this posting is inappropriate for this group and would appreciate  
any pointers to a better place to post.

My wifes father and his grandfather before him have the first name Dosty. We  
like the name very much and have named our son Dosty Dale (after her dad and  
mine). 

Of course, the unusual name gets lots of questions. Nobody in my wifes family  
seems to know the origin. The name is not in any of the name books we have  
reviewed. It is not a diminuative form - Dosty is exactly what appears on the  
birth certificate.

Any ideas? E-mail me please.

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From: Sandra_Petit@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Sandra Petit)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Golden books "chain letter"???
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:04:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: agwbbs.Sandra_Petit.0blo
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Tue  7 Apr 92 18:27, Bparrish@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (willia
wrote:

 B> Recently, my 5-year-old got a "chain letter" from a friend
 B> which is designed to (1) go to 6 friends, (2) is two levels
 B> deep (i.e. you get 36 replies), and you are supposed to send
 B> back an 88 cent golden book to the name at the top of the
 B> list.  It claims to be part of the "U.S. Literacy Campaign".

 B> Has anyone else seen this?  I thought asking for things of
 B> value in a chain letter was illegal, but maybe that's an
 B> u.l. (???)

 B> Is it really part of something called the "U.S. Literacy
 B> Campaign"?  

     I received one of these two several months ago.  I threw it away
believing, as you do, that it is illegal.  I'd be interested to see if
anyone knows whether it is indeed okay to do this.
          Sandie

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Newsgroups: misc.kids


 
 I actually guessed I was pregnant on the 7th day after conception - I spotted
 with the implantation of the fertilized egg in the uterus lining. 

 Of course, I  was planning on getting pregnant that month, so I was watching 
 for every little change in the body, including mucus, general feeling, 
 temperature ...

 Gita Iyer

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