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From: knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: I Wanna Hold Your Hand
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:25:51 GMT
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA


> I saw few years ago a film I Wanna Hold Your Hand in British television.
> Some years later it was shown in movie theater in Tampere, Finland.
> I think that the film described wonderfully the insanity and the humor
> of Beatlemania when the Beatles arrived for the first time in the U.S.
> in the beginning of 1964. If I remember correctly, it was directed by
> Robert Zemeckis, and it was made in the end of 1970's.
> Have someone else seen it lately? What did you think of it?
> Where I could get a video of the tape here in Europe?
> -- 
> 

I love that film. It really captured the feeling, as you say. I was
convinced that they were in that room when she was under the bed.
I highly recommend it to all Beatle's fans.

Tom
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BEATLES LIVE
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:13:08 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Oct12.203641.7796@rigel.econ.uga.edu> connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss) writes:
>Butcher cover is mono.  Its first state, cover in very good shape except
>for one bent corner.  I am not greedy just want to know the value of it.
>
>Connie Mobley
>Statistics
>University of Georgia

Sorry to offend!  I wasn't talking about you!

The "book value" in MINT condition is $2,000.  That is really TOP DOLLAR
though, and only the very naive or the very rich pay that kind of money
for one.  

Again, sorry for the ambiguity of my comments.

Bruce

-- 
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Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
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508-460-2816
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Writing credits (was "Flying")
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:29:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc2

In article <oer4bM_00UzxQ2m2E1@andrew.cmu.edu> cc6f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher John Cenkner) writes:
>Just a quick question.  Yes, "Flying" is one song where all four of the
>boys were listed as writers.  How many songs have the boys done where
>only Paul has been credited with the songwriting? I know of at least
>one.  Just curious,

Well, if you include bootlegs, early recordings such as The Quarrymen: Spring
Rehearsals (or whatever it's called) list several by Paul alone. But the
membership of "the boys" was slightly different then.

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: novan@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Erwin Gunadi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: About The Reunions
Date: 9 Oct 1992 04:35:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
Keywords: Reunions

I would like to know more about the album : The Beatles Reunion 74 & 92.
As I haven't heard this album before, I also like to know whether the
album is worth to be purchased.
The last thing I like to know is if anyone ever heard if The Beatles
still has one last unpublished album ?

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: Christer.Gullstrand@malmo.trab.se (Christer Gullstrand)
Subject: Re: "The Making of Sgt. Pepper" on Disney
Organization: Telia Research, Malmo, Sweden
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 11:52:27 GMT

In article <9V2asB2w164w@sheltie.chapel-hill.nc.us> rberry@sheltie.chapel-hill.nc.us (Robert Berry) writes:
>That's not what I see.  The first mention of "SFF," Thursday 24 November
>1966, describes the recording thus: "Take one, recorded on this night,
>was not only *magnificent* but as far removed from the final version as
>possible, the only similarity between it and the record being the song's
>mellotron introduction."
> ...
>And what does the bootleg sound like?  Mellotron or no?
>

Mellotron! Rather long intro. Not really an intro, when I come to think about it.
More like he's just playing around with the instrument before the take begins.

Christer
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: nahigian@athena.mit.edu (Gabriel H Nahigian)
Subject: Re: "Two Of Us"
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:13:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.200838.7625@leland.Stanford.EDU>, raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct9.215148.18546@leland.Stanford.EDU> raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson) writes:
|>   
|> >	Overall, "Two of Us" fits as one of the final compositions in a string
|> >of McCartney songs of reconciliation, homecoming, rest -- even redemption.  
|> >Hey Jude, Let It Be, Get Back, Golden Slumbers, The End:  all contain the same
|> >cadence of resolution, the same inevitable direction toward a reunion with the
|> >good and familiar.  You're right, Saki; "Two of Us" may be the most bittersweet
|> >of all these reconciliations -- Paul's final farewell to a union he couldn't 
|> >save.  
|> >
|> >				Nat Pearson
|> >				raindrop@leland.stanford.edu
|> 	
|> 	I know it's poor protocol to respond to my own posting, but I wanted
|> 	to add two songs to the series of McCarthney works above:  Blackbird 
|> 	and The Long and Winding Road fit perfectly into the mold of songs 
|> 	described; I hope their inclusion will better illustrate what I'm 
|> 	trying to say about Paul's later Beatles-era mindset.
|> 
|> 				Nat

   This is a great observation, especially when contrasted with Lennon's attitude
about the breakup, as seen in such solo efforts as "God." ("I don't believe in
Beatles, I just believe in... Yoko and me," "The dream is over," "I was the
Walrus, but now I'm John."  Apparently John was bitter over the whole ugly
affair, while Paul was truly sorry that he couldn't keep the group together, even
though it was the release of his own solo album that actually ended the group. 
Even back in 1968, after the death of Brian Epstein, Paul was trying desperately
to retain the Beatles' solidarity (for want of a better word.)  For example, "The
Magical Mystery Tour," was, according to Paul, "to give [the Beatles] something
to do; to keep it going."  (I may not have the quote quite right.)

Gabe   (nahigian@athena.mit.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:10:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.184800.10684@pellns.alleg.edu> takamay@murr10.alleg.edu (Yui Takamatsu) writes:
>I know this is a very FAQ, but can anyone very kind out theretell me what  
>the addresses are for subscribing to Paul's Wings Fun Club and The Beatles  
>Book?

I don't have the Wings Fun Club at my fingertips but will try to procure
it for you.

The Beatles Book may be reached at Beat Publications Limited, Magazine
Editor, 43-45 St Mary's Road, Ealing, London W5 5RQ England. Subscriptions
to this valuable monthly publication may be obtained for the price of
$45 U.S. ($55 Canada), $60 Aus. (this is for airmail post).

--
"They play mostly their own compositions and one of the boys 
has written a song which I really believe to be the hottest
material since 'Living Doll'."
-----------------------------------saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Any News on the release of those 'new' singles?
From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:55:12 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

   There's been a lot of discussion on Compuserve about a rumored
new Beatles album of unreleased stuff; is that what is being refered
to here?

Karl

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mcodogno@nyx.cs.du.edu (Maurizio Codogno)
Subject: Re: Cover artists/KGB
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 10:32:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.000140.13899@osf.org> rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers) writes:
>>Kennedy, a man with the blues in his voice if there ever was one, also
>>provided the vocals for Gerritt Graham's campy performance as a rock
>>singer in Brian DePalma's "Phantom of the Paradise" (1974), which is
>>as good a parody of the music industry (and of Faust) as one gets.
>
>And which also predated "Rocky Horror Picture Show" by a couple of years.
>
>AWR


I happen to listen in this very moment to RHPS - my cd has no (P) date
but I am rather sure that the Rocky Horror Show (the musical) 
dates 1974. 
 
ciao! .mau.
 
Obligatory Beatles' relateds question:  Is there some 
bootleg (only for scholastic purpouse of course) with a a Fabs' version
of _I'm in love_? I'd rather like Fourmost's version, even if
it's a little speedy... but I  would like to compare it with
the "original".
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: HELP!!
Keywords: help
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:02:17 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

In article <swindley.718542516@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley) writes:
>  What are the beatles spelling on the cover of HELP?
>  I always just assumed it was H E L P but a friend said it wasn't
>  and he had worked it out to be R U something something. Could
>  please, please help me?

It's "NUJV", according to Lewisohn. My knowledge of semaphore is a
little rusty, so I won't attempt to start a debate. I believe they
meant to spell "help" but got it rather wrong. I suppose this is what
happens when you drop out of art school....

--
"The Lana Sisters, clad in pink, added a welcome feminine flavour.
'Much better than those Beatles' I heard one gentleman remark."
------------------------------------------------------------------
saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)
From: harold@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: remakes or covers?
Summary: Covers can be OK
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:35:08 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

I think there HAVE been some good covers of Beatles songs. One of my
favourites is Lenny Kravitz's Cold Turkey; in fact several of the covers
that were done for the Lennon 50th birthday show were quite good (I Feel
Fine by Wet Wet Wet, Natalie Cole's contributions). I like covers which
differ interestingly from the original, and so add soemthing to the
song. For example, the Every Man Has a Woman album of covers of Yoko's
songs shows that some of her songwriting is pretty good, even if her
singing is, shall we say, idiosyncratic. I'm not saying all such covers
are good: what was the name of that Czech group which did far-out covers
of the whole Let It Be album in the correct sequence - that was pretty
weird ....

Lots of covers are just a waste of vinyl in my opinion though -
especially the covers that were released at the same time as the Beatles 
- things like thge Overlanders' Michelle, or Marmalade's Obladi, which
were just too similar to the original which was still available.

But remember that some early Beatles songs are covers: do you prefer the
Beatles' Twist and Shout or the original? How about Baby Its You
(Shirelles). Incidentally, I'm trying to make a collection  of the songs
the Beatles covered, so that eventually I can put together a sort of
Uncovered on tape (just for my own fun): like the Beatles albums
in the correct running order but with the original versions. In the case
of original compositions, I'll put in an alternative take or a live
version I think. I'm not doing this very strenuously, just buying up old
compilation albuims that have Beatles-covered  originals on them when I
see them. So I was very pleased to get hold of a recently released CDs
which is specifically a compilation of these songs (though more than half
of them were covered by the Beatles only in unreleased forms, like Lend
Me Your Comb, and Soldier of Love....)

And finally, what about the Stones - they performed ONLY covers of RnB
standards long after the Beatles did mainly self-penned stuff. Compare
their Not Fade Away to Bo Diddley's original. I know which one I prefer!
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Cover artists/KGB
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:57:09 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

In article <2185@deadmin.ucsd.edu> napier@cs.ucsd.edu (Jim Napier) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep29.144641.20386@ncsu.edu>, jadillin@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ANTHON DILLINGHAM) writes:
>I don't know if this is what you heard but when I was going through my album
>collection recently I came across something I had forgotten I bought. It was
>an LP by a band named KGB, which was a temporary outfit with Mike Bloomfield,
>John Hammond (I think), Rick Grech, and someone else who's name escapes me.
>Anyway there was a version of I've Got A Feeling on it that was quite a funky
>departure from the original version but I really enjoyed it. I think it had
>some slide guitar on it.  

Was the forgotten name Ray Kennedy? I didn't know that KBG covered "I've
Got A Feeling" but I have a single of their heartrendingly-stunning version
of the Beach Boys' "Sail On Sailor".

Kennedy, a man with the blues in his voice if there ever was one, also
provided the vocals for Gerritt Graham's campy performance as a rock
singer in Brian DePalma's "Phantom of the Paradise" (1974), which is
as good a parody of the music industry (and of Faust) as one gets.

--
"The Lana Sisters, clad in pink, added a welcome feminine flavour.
'Much better than those Beatles' I heard one gentleman remark."
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saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: cls@chas.cadence.com (Charlie Seddon)
Subject: Re: Beatle "beeps"
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:35:48 GMT

[response to proposed samplings of Beatles songs]

Both the bark and the "Do you know anymore" quip from "Hey Bulldog"
From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer )
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: What Paul Owns
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:30:26 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Oct9.211246.6797@math.ucla.edu>, dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:
> I'm told by three trustworthy people---Sam Gabelt, C. Garner, and Eric
> Robinette---that Paul bought "On Wisconsin" (at least I got the region
> of the country right) and, in fact, recently refused to relinquish
> the rights to the song when U. of Wisconsin asked for them back.
> 

WOW, that was my High School fight song ... if I only knew at the
time.

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  Western Kentucky University         shroyer@wku.edu (don't use much)
                                                                            
    HELP SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL BANDS ... GO TO THE SHOWS AND BUY THE ALBUMS    
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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:24:56 -0400 
From: Christopher John Cenkner <cc6f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Writing credits (was "Flying")

Just a quick question.  Yes, "Flying" is one song where all four of the
boys were listed as writers.  How many songs have the boys done where
only Paul has been credited with the songwriting? I know of at least
one.  Just curious,




						-Sergeant Pepper
___________________________________________
{Christopher J. Cenkner<cc6f@andrew.cmu.edu>}

"Well it was twenty years ago today,/
  Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play..."   -Lennon/McCartney
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BEATLES LIVE
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:25:46 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Oct12.162627.5057@rigel.econ.uga.edu> connie@uga.edu (Connie M. Doss) writes:
>I have a bootleg Beatles album live at Whiskeyflat in Atlanta GA but I
>have been told they never played in Atlanta.  Does anyone know if they
>ever played there?  Does anyone know what the value of the album
>Yesterday and Today butcher cover?  It has one bent corner but other
>than that it is in great shape.  
>
>Connie Mobley
>Statistics
>University of Georgia

According to Lewisohn, the Beatles played in the Atlanta Stadium on 
18 August, 1965. 

You might post the songs from the bootleg...that might help identify it.

Butcher cover value depends on:

a) mono or stereo
b) sealed, not sealed but "first state", peeled, never been peeled.
c) quality of peel
d) cover quality in general
e) greediness of seller/pocketboot of the buyer

Bruce


-- 
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Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
bad@sw.stratus.com              
508-460-2816
From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Cover artists/KGB
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:22:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: VM.1687BCA24.US30139
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

In article <1992Oct9.000140.13899@osf.org>
rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers) writes:
 
>In article <1992Oct8.215709.28337@math.ucla.edu> dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:
>>>I don't know if this is what you heard but when I was going through my album
>>>collection recently I came across something I had forgotten I bought. It was
>>>an LP by a band named KGB, which was a temporary outfit with Mike Bloomfield,
>>>John Hammond (I think), Rick Grech, and someone else who's name escapes me.
>
>One of them, as Saki points out, was Ray Kennedy; the other was ex-Vanilla
>Fudge drummer Carmine Appice.
>
>>>Anyway there was a version of I've Got A Feeling on it that was quite a funky
>>>departure from the original version but I really enjoyed it. I think it had
>>>some slide guitar on it.
>>
>>Was the forgotten name Ray Kennedy? I didn't know that KBG covered "I've
>>Got A Feeling" but I have a single of their heartrendingly-stunning version
>>of the Beach Boys' "Sail On Sailor".
>
>Which RK co-wrote along with Brian Wilson, Beach Boys manager Jack Rieley,
>and Tandyn Almer (of "Along Comes Mary" fame).  RK later went on to write
>the Babys' "Isn't It Time".
>
>>Kennedy, a man with the blues in his voice if there ever was one, also
>>provided the vocals for Gerritt Graham's campy performance as a rock
>>singer in Brian DePalma's "Phantom of the Paradise" (1974), which is
>>as good a parody of the music industry (and of Faust) as one gets.
 
 
 
 
Pardon this dumb question.  I am unfamiliar with Ray Kennedy; however there
is a country artist Ray Kennedy who has a very bluesy voice.  Could this be
the same Ray Kennedy?
 
mike james (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers)
Subject: Re: Cover artists/KGB
Organization: HICAM/OSD
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:01:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.215709.28337@math.ucla.edu> dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:
>>I don't know if this is what you heard but when I was going through my album
>>collection recently I came across something I had forgotten I bought. It was
>>an LP by a band named KGB, which was a temporary outfit with Mike Bloomfield,
>>John Hammond (I think), Rick Grech, and someone else who's name escapes me.

One of them, as Saki points out, was Ray Kennedy; the other was ex-Vanilla
Fudge drummer Carmine Appice.

>>Anyway there was a version of I've Got A Feeling on it that was quite a funky
>>departure from the original version but I really enjoyed it. I think it had
>>some slide guitar on it.  
>
>Was the forgotten name Ray Kennedy? I didn't know that KBG covered "I've
>Got A Feeling" but I have a single of their heartrendingly-stunning version
>of the Beach Boys' "Sail On Sailor".

Which RK co-wrote along with Brian Wilson, Beach Boys manager Jack Rieley,
and Tandyn Almer (of "Along Comes Mary" fame).  RK later went on to write
the Babys' "Isn't It Time".

>Kennedy, a man with the blues in his voice if there ever was one, also
>provided the vocals for Gerritt Graham's campy performance as a rock
>singer in Brian DePalma's "Phantom of the Paradise" (1974), which is
>as good a parody of the music industry (and of Faust) as one gets.

And which also predated "Rocky Horror Picture Show" by a couple of years.

AWR
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: The Fabs first EMI contract
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:26:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc2

In article <16879842B.CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com> CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>In article <6367@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>
>ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement) writes:
>>Not true! They had written "I saw her standing there" which is a classic
>>song.
>
>Yes true! If they did have ISHST at that time (still titled Sevevteen)
>it probably wasn't near it's final arranged form.  The same with Please

The version on the Hamburg tapes sounds fairly near it's final form. I re-assert
my original thesis. (Serious - I think it's a great song).

And don't forget forgotten classics like "I'll always be in love with you" and
"You just don't understand" and (gasp) "Thinking of Linking"! :-)

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: a70901@uwasa.fi (Mikko Suhonen)
Subject: I Wanna Hold Your Hand
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:10:01 GMT

I saw few years ago a film I Wanna Hold Your Hand in British television.
Some years later it was shown in movie theater in Tampere, Finland.
I think that the film described wonderfully the insanity and the humor
of Beatlemania when the Beatles arrived for the first time in the U.S.
in the beginning of 1964. If I remember correctly, it was directed by
Robert Zemeckis, and it was made in the end of 1970's.
Have someone else seen it lately? What did you think of it?
Where I could get a video of the tape here in Europe?
-- 
Mikko Suhonen
Vaasa, Finland
(a70901@uwasa.fi)

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: Couple of Questions
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:57:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.093304.1447@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>Questions Galore:
>What other song besides FLYING (Magical Mystery Tour) is attributed to 
>all four Beatles?  Who kept the Copyright of songs that weren't 
>Lennon-McCartney or Harrisongs?
>Anyone know the story behind Dr Robert?

It's been a while, but ....."What Goes On" has credits to all four.
I left all my albums back home on the other side of the world :-(, so
anyone to check this up?


-- 
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3216 Apt#1 Daniel Avenue 			(214) 360 9051
Dallas	TX 75205
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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: takamay@murr10.alleg.edu (Yui Takamatsu)
Subject: stupid FAQ
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:48:00 GMT

I know this is a very FAQ, but can anyone very kind out theretell me what  
the addresses are for subscribing to Paul's Wings Fun Club and The Beatles  
Book?
Thanks in advance.
From: gaukur@rhi.hi.is (Kristjan Gaukur Kristjansson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Couple of Questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:53:51 GMT

In <1992Oct13.093304.1447@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:

>What other song besides FLYING (Magical Mystery Tour) is attributed to 
>all four Beatles?

Maggie Mae, and I thing one of Ringos, maybe Octop. garden.

			Gaukur.