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From: zklf0b@gs144.uucp (Fergason)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dune, embarrassing?
Keywords: n
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:12:30 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production


In article <1992Sep3.034821.27452@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Mark Hiro           Norman         ) writes:
>.
>BTW what extended editions are you talking about? I've heard there was
>a long mini-series size version put together, which Lynch disowned due
>to its badness. Anything else? How does one find these editions
>anyway? Might be worth a quick squiz.


I was bored one Saturday, and Dune was on in the afternoon.  ALL afternoon.
From about 11 am to 6 pm.  It wasn't all that bad.

Kelly
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: peter@cs.vu.nl (Grunwald PD)
Subject: Re: Most Maddening Movie
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:13:31 GMT

masticol@cadenza.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola) writes:


>Here's a new topic: which movie made you the angriest? For whatever
>reason.


HMMMM....

Sophie's Choice, I guess. No, I`m sure.

- because such gifted actors lend themselves to such a uuuuuuuuwrghsdalfkjslf
  scenario

- because everybody else who was there with me really seemed to think it was
  a good movie

- because it was the most blatant rape of a poem I have ever come to know
 (ample make this bed, fruitful and warm)

- because everything in it was exaggerated, but not ironical (and I can't
  stand exaggerations that are not meant as such - that are only meant to
  jerk your tears) 

Explanation Follows with SPOILERS !!!!!!
















































  (consider: 'my faazer was a nazi, but still I loved him even if I had to go 
   to a concentration camp where I had to choose whether my little son or
   my daughter was to be gassed, I am in love with a paranoid schizophrenic
   (sic!!!!) who claims to be a researcher but in fact cleans the lab (sic! sic!
   ) and who easily makes me fall in love with him by simply saying 
   'Ample make this bed, fruitful and warm' at the moment I am fainting because
  of malnutrition and who in the end makes me committ suicide together with him
  (cosy) in a giant bed with a poetry book beside us open on the page where it
  says 'Ample make... etc')

...as if just being sent to a concentration camp isn't bad enough.

...I am not even mentioning the third person who 'just can't understand the
  tragedy' (of course he can't, but I wonder why a paranoid schizophrenic
  CAN understand the tragedy)
   
Well, I could go on for hours. I'll leave it at this. Hope the fans won't
burn me for this.

Ciao,

Peter

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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Columbus and 1492
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:31:45 GMT

buccb@after.math.uiuc.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) writes:

>I'm confused. There was a Columbus flick released last week, right?
>1492 will be released in October (or is it November), right?
>I thought 1492 was the Columbus flick. R there 2 Columbus
>flicks coming out this year? If not, was the hell is 1492
>about?

Yes...there are *two* Columbus flicks.

Christopher Columbus : The Discovery starring George Coraface[?],
out now, with an all-star cast [ie it sucks] made by the Salkinds
and directed by John Glen , responsible for the last 5 James Bond
movies. I heard they paid 5$ million for Marlon Brandos dreadful
performance as Torquemada -- the Inquisitor.

and

1492 with Gerard Depardieu , coming in the fall.
Yes 1492 is about Columbus.
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Date: 26 Aug 1992 20:52:17 GMT
Organization: sio
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu

>does anyone out there think that the sex scenes in certain
>movies are getting too explicit and not really called for?
                                         
I think a good case can be made that if explicit sex and most profanity
were left out, it wouldn't detract at all from the film as a whole,
with very few exceptions, and might possibly even make it a better
film for the lack of it.  

I'm sure to draw flames here but i'll wait for the incoming fire
before aiming the artillery.

Jeff Bytof
rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:03:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University

In article <25AUG199214095682@portal.lasc.lockheed.com> le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025)) writes:
>How about the final moment in City Lights when the girl (who was blind 
>until an operation restores her site) recognizes the tramp by the feel
>of his hand (he used to hold her hand while reading to her).
>
>A killer.

Oh, yes. And you reminded me of the end of "Rickshaw Man." Tosho Mifune,
the eponymous lead, dies in a snowdrift of drink and unspoken love for a widow
whose young son he has befriended. The last scene shows the widow being
told that Tosho has willed a tidy postal savings account to her, and the
surprised way she whispers his name makes us realize that she may very
well have harbored tender feelings for him, as well.

The whole auditorium was sniffling after that one.

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky         abw@bucrsb.bu.edu      Chresmology
Boston University      arc9arn@buacca.bu.edu   (cheap rates)
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From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:37:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.151934.16571@unlv.edu> frank@snooks.isri.unlv.edu (Frank Jenkins) writes:
>Swimming to Cambodia. One.

Yes but at the beginning of the film we get a glimpse of the people in the
audience.  How do you know that some of them aren't actors in real life?  

:-)

Wayne

-----------
Wayne Citrin   citrin@soglio.colorado.edu   citrin@cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
	<case.24.715387839@ucs.sdsu.edu>
	<1992Sep2.190534.4863@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <65170@cup.portal.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:58:28 GMT

In article <65170@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:

   >
   >    I used to work for the local theatres, so I saw a LOT of free movies.
   >Only three times did I get up and leave, even though I wasn't paying for
   >the flick: Planes, Trains, and Automobiles; Russkies; and Career 
   >Opprotunities. Russkies was just plain dumb, and the other two I
   >considered insulting to my intelligence.
   >                                     Lyle
   >
   >--

   You didn't like PT&A?? The rental-car-counter scene with Steve Martin's
   blood-pressure-exploding monolog is a classic. MOre than once I've been
   at a rental-car counter and had his whole dialog race thru my brain. 
   Candy and Martin were a great complimentary "buddy" team. It's definitely
   my favorite John Hughes film. Have it on tape and have probably watched
   it a dozen times. Ah well... it's wonderful to see all these 
   completely contrary analyses of the same film. 
   Harv

I expect that how much one appreciates PT&A is a direct function of
how much travelling one has done.  I'll never forget the time I had to
fly from National, via Dallas, to El Paso and spent the night in
Chicago.  With no spare shirt.  Or the time (on my honeymoon, yet)
when United Airlines cancelled our Hertz rental car reservation (did
you know they could do that?  I didn't).  Or the 3-day Vermont trip on
which it took the airline 2 days to get my fishing rod to me after
they found it...

-Joe.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Timothy Hutton
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:59:29 GMT

In article <22843@sybase.sybase.com> wdw@sybase.com (Wayne Wong) writes:
>What ever happened to him?

He's still around.  The last film of his I remember was "Torrents of
Spring", around three years ago.

>Debra Winger, too, come to think of it....

She's still active, and in demand.  She was originally set to play
Geena Davis' role in "A League of Their Own", but she pulled out,
supposedly because of the casting of Madonna.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: jor1@hera.uucp (24315-rich)
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 13:49:37 GMT
Summary: Sex In Movies

In article <1992Aug26.195424.4530@asl.dl.nec.com>, clee@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Christina Lee) writes:
> 
> does anyone out there think that the sex scenes in certain
> movies are getting too explicit and not really called for?
> A number of movies come to mind:
> Boomerang
> Single White Female
> Basic Instinct
> 
> It really hit home when I realized that a woman had brought in 
> a little girl (2-4 yrs old) to SWF.  
> 
> no flames, please.
> 
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> :    My opinions are my own and not necessarily those of my employer.        :
> :								             :
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

I don't think the problems are that the sex scenes are too explicit.
The problem is that they are infused with hostility between man and
woman.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:26447 alt.cult-movies:7290
From: karen@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Karen Latora)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:13:59 GMT



The most embarrassing movie I watched was one Saturday afternoon when my 
husband was out working and I already had done all the weekend chores, there 
was nothing and I mean nothing else on and I didn't have a car and it was 
raining outside and what else can I say to make me not look so stupid for 
watching  "RAT BOY"  Man, was that stupid.  It's about this Rat Boy that 
lives under the sewers in LA.  Someone discovers him one day and trys to get 
famous off him.  He gets kidnapped, falls in love, become this sex-symbol 
celebrity and I think ends up dying in the end.  Anyway, this is what HBO 
shows towards the end of the month.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: mjg@ktbush.enet.dec.com (Michael J. Grier)
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (*MAJOR SPOILERS*)
Reply-To: mjg@ktbush.enet.dec.com (Michael J. Grier)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:55:22 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.224341.5741@rtsg.mot.com>, iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott) writes:
|>Xref: nntpd.lkg.dec.com rec.arts.movies:98538 alt.tv.twin-peaks:19735
|>7. Who is that, anyway?
|>
|>At the end of the movie, a woman is shown in the red room.  It is a blonde
|>woman with large curls in a black dress.  Is this Laura with a new hairdo ?  It
|>isn't Annie, but it might be Caroline (from the TV series finale).
|>

   I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet, but everyone with whom I attended
the movie agreed that it was Donna.  She always was Laura's guardian angel...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm saying this, not Digital.  Don't hold them responsibile for it!

Michael J. Grier                           Digital Equipment Corporation
(508) 496-8417                             mjg@ktbush.ogo.dec.com
Stow, Mass, USA                            Mailstop OGO1-1/E16
From: kfree@fatcity.cts.com (Kenneth Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the fe/malest cast
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:53:07 PDT
Organization: Fat City Software, San Diego, California

_Lawrence of Arabia_ had two (?) Arab women in a quick
panning shot, and _The Bridge at Remagen_ had one female speaking
role, but war films need few women. _The Hunt for the Red
October_ had two, if memory serves. At the other extreme,
_The Women_ by Clare Luce Booth (??).

-- 
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Fat City Software BBS -- (619) 268-9275
UUCP: ...crash.cts.com!fatcity!kfree  OR  ...telesoft.com!fatcity!kfree
From: phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Winona (was Dracula)
Keywords: 1969
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:44:31 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England


   Winona was also in a film which I think was
   called 1969 where she played Kiefer Sutherlands
   girl friend and Robert Downey Jnr's sister, or
   Vica-versa (not bad I think?)
   By the way is she still drooling over Johny Depp?
   Some guy's have all the luck, or is it looks?

	Hmmm.
From: gt7994a@prism.gatech.EDU (ORMOND,SEAN PATRICK)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What are those Negroes doing with guns?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:00:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep3.072701.19172@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep2.113813.744@calmasd.prime.com> wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:
>>
>>Yeah, I rambled.  Got a burr up my butt & couldn't dig it out.  Got bored,
>>whatever... go ahead - toast me.  I got my undies all set to slip on.
>>
>>walter
>>
>You are truly the biggest Masochist that has ever graced the Net, Walter.
>I am down on my knees worshipping your toastiness..:)
>
>Next time drink a cup of coffee and eat a doughnut *before* you log-on!
>
>But Seriously, without getting into specifically agreeing or disagreeing
>with your cleansing rant (my flame-proof undies are still at the cleaners)
>I can state that IMHO, Spike Lee has absolutely the most colossal ego in
>Hollywood. He is so chock-full of bloated self-importance that he and
>Ollie Stone can't fit into the same room because their swollen
>heads keep knocking together. His latest statements regarding Malcolm X
>are unbelievably inflammatory. He seems to really believe that he is
>some sort of divine dispenser of "truth" to the poor unenlightened masses.
>

	Walter hit the nail on the head!  It's rough when people tell it 
like it is.  Some comments:

Spike Lee:  Anyone remember several months ago when Spike was running
behind schedule and way over budget?  When Paramount (?) refused to
provide him the additional funds, Spike, in the responsible manner of
a true "african-american", ACCUSED THEM OF RACISM!!!  Had he been a white
director, they would have given him the money!  While I had been looking
forward to seeing this movie, I immediately realized where Spike was
coming from, and now you won't be able to drag me to see it.  Guess what,
Spiky-boy?  It's Paramount's money and they can spend it however they damn
well please - you're not "entitled" to any of it!  If they chose not to 
further fund your liberal soapbox, then so be it.  BTW, if you really want
to see a liberal media roll-call, look at the celebrities that gave him
the money to finish.  I think Opera is on there, and she for one leans
so far to the left, she can't even walk straight!  Spike's attitude
is representative of a disturbing trend among the "have-nots" in this
country: the belief that they have some inalienable right to everything,
regardless of whether they earned it or not.  You see signs of this
everywhere - hell, anyone voting for the socialist/democrats in November?

Sean
-- 
Sean P. Ormond
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane)
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:47:49 GMT

even though i find his movies boring there are a lot of great shots in
andrei tarkovski's movies. in particular i liked the water and destruction
scenes in 'nostalgia', and the openning scene in 'stalker'. i do like 
peter greenaway's movies though and they are just dripping with gorgeous
scenes. in particular i liked many of the interiors in 'drowning by numbers',
i liked the final suicide/snail scene in 'a zed and two naughts', the
scene in the library in 'prospero's books' where all the pages fly upwards,
the hospital scene in 'the cook, the thief, his wife and her lover' for
the play of light. i liked the scene in 'blue velvet' when ben sings 'in dreams''manhattan' was mentioned elsewhere, i really liked the planetarium scene in
that one.
From: fox@cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:02:21 GMT
	<1992Aug28.014042.1164@fulcrum.oz.au> <1992Aug28.191312.23885@bnr.ca>
	<1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
	<1992Sep1.112615.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>
	<92245.123837TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences

In article <92245.123837TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu> TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu (TODD BOBENRIETH) writes:

   It would have to be Naked Lunch...I hope I get flamed for saying it
   so we see who are the airhead expressionists that actually liked
   this piece of worthless dribble. Me and my friend went to see
   expecting your typical Cronenberg masterpiece and ended up shifting
   around in our seats more than any other in history. We left the
   theater(re) feeling like we were in another reality where stupidity
   rules...very disappointing.

Still, it was a lot better than Star Trek 5, Prospero's Books,
or Cool World (which I completely blocked out having paid to
see, until someone mentioned it. Thanks a lot, buddy.)
From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:08:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: huxley.5981
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu writes:

> Cold War:     Fail Safe

Good choice. Actually this transcends the Cold War and posits a war
that never happened. After all, we did nuke Moscow, for whatever reason.
And then nuked New York. The action's a little one-sided.

I just picked up a 32-page hardbound called "The Fail-Safe Fallacy," by
Sidney Hook. It argues against the plausibility of the situation in the
book and movie. If there's any interest, I'll summarize the argument.

John
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: clark@netcom.com (Sue Clark)
Subject: Re: great voices
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 16:49:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:

>>>   the story thus far:
>>>
>>>> James Earl Jones
>>>> Burt Lancaster
>>>> Jack Palance
>>>> Clu Gulager [????]
>>>> June Allison
>>>> Gregory Peck
>>>
>>>Jean Arthur : the best
>>>Candy Clark : "Do you think you can get us some broooooo?"
>>

>Lauren Bacall: "You know how to whistle, don't you?"

How about Patrick Stewart from Star Trek:  Then Next Generation and numerous 
commercial voiceovers.

Sue
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From: watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC)
Subject: Re: nude bears
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:12:18 GMT

In article <914@nazgul.UUCP> bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright) writes:
> Obsession with naked bears? I guess I ought to go look at old episodes of
> 'Big Ben' and check out all those bear breasts :-) But wait .. Ben was a male
> bear!

If you wanna see naked bears, rent "The Bear". 

Take special note of the big bear in the climactic scene where the 
little bear thinks he's scaring away the cougar, but it's really 
the big bear standing behind him.  

chow!
John S. Watson, Civil Servent from Hell          ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov

HOMEBREW NAKED! --- Ursus cerevisiae nudium  (The Bare Beer Bear)
All right, then, I'll GO to hell"  --- Mark Twain
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:39:05 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Aug31.192352.21160@pony.Ingres.COM> cathys@ingres.com (Cathy Savino) writes:

>I'm sorry about the sketchy details, but the one thing I do remember is that there 
>where only 2 actors in the entire film, and Micheal Kane was one of them.

Was the other one Christopher Reeves?



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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:47:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.184533.28617@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, em@merlin.cvs.rochester.edu (Ethan Montag) writes...

} Allen is in a no win situation when it comes to custody: If he argues
} that he was an involved father to the children (as his lawyers did on
} the Today show this morning) who wakes up early to get them ready for
} school, spends as much time as he can with them, etc., then his affair
} with Sun-Yi is morally suspicious because he's been a "family member"
} for quite a while.

It's not quite so easy as all that. There are two sets of children here.
Those that Mia Farrow had borne/adopted on her own or with Andre Previn,
and those that she bore/adopted with Woody Allen.

Allen's position is that he *was* a father to the three in the latter
group, but *not* to the eight (including Soon-Yi) in the former group.
At worst, one could claim that he was in a morally dubious position of
having an affair with the half-(adopted)-sister of his three children,
but I think that's stretching things a bit too far (albeit most of the
contention is with respect to just how stretched things have gotten).

} If however, his involvement with the children was nominal, then why
} the heck should he get custody.

If his position is, as it seems to be, that Mia's custody of the children
is detrimental to their well-being, it's a valid argument in a custody
battle. It's not likely to get him anywhere, but keep in mind that starting
out at an extreme position gives him room for negotiation. As has been
started in the press, he'd been trying for months to get Mia to agree to
a joint custody arrangement, and she's refused. So he filed for sole
custody. He probably won't get it, but if the case results in joint
custody, he'll end up with what he wanted in the first place.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Columbus and 1492
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:11:11 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

> I read that when the Salkinds decided they wanted to make a movie
> about Columbus a few years ago, they went out and registered all
> the "Columbus" names they could think of with the MPAA.  The other
> group had to use "1492" because it was about the only possible
> Columbus-associated title left.

Cool info Chuck!  Know what the ironic part is?  I think _1492_ is a 
much better title...  <smile>

And doesn't it have a sub-title like _Destruction of Paradise_?

Greg Bole                                    "The ants in the grass, they
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  were just doing their thing."
                                            Matt Dillon in _Drugstore Cowboy_