HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst quote
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:22:57 -0600

In article <1992Nov10.024039.8806@linus.mitre.org>  writes:
>In article <1did06INNgln@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> davros@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tyler Yip -  
UnixWeenie(tm)) writes:
>
>>I FEEL WEEK AND TIRED AND USELESS.  I JUST WANT TO LIE DOWN ON
>>THE SIDEWALK AND DIE.  WHAT'S THE USE OF MOVING OR DOING ANYTHING?
>>THE SUM TOTAL OF EVERYTHING I'VE EVER DONE ADDS UP TO NOTHING AND 
>>EVEN IF THAT WASN'T THE CASE IT WOULDN'T MATTER.
>
>I HAVE THIS SHIRT!!!...Its so cool and angstful!, I love it!!
>A friend got it for me when I was suicidal last winter :)
>
>ObAngst:I haven't been able to find it for months...bah
>---Steve

ANGST: I want this shirt but will probably never even see it. sigh.
From: marym@terimaul.Eng.Sun.COM (Mary Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Election Day Angst...
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:15:40 GMT
Reply-To: marym@terimaul.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: terimaul

In article 125940HZS@psuvm.psu.edu, Therion <HZS@psuvm.psu.edu> () writes:
>>In article <1992Nov4.000654.20212@linus.mitre.org>, sokay@cyclone.mitre.org
>>(Stephen J. Okay) says:
>>
>>>Can we have an Angst Party candidate? The time is now!. If we start now, in
>>>'96 who knows, maybe we can actually get on the ballot!
>>>Nominations anyone?(I nominate Rachel :) ).
>>
>the next election. Damn. Never mind.  "If elected, I will be depressed ...."
>>

Sounds like the ideal candidate to me....

Mary
marym@Eng.Sun.Com
From: ST201026@brownvm.brown.edu (nathan marsh)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Second-handers (was Re: Angst music)
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:39:43 GMT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

In article <1992Nov6.233536.13612@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>,
rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) said:
>ObAngst: i confronted the friend who filled my head with lies, and he is out
of
>my life. i stopped being worried, and started being disgusted, so i told him.
>and all he could tell me was more lies. why can't people be who they are?
>why can't they live their own lives. i can understand fantasizing about being
>someone else, but this is ridiculous....
>bah.

"What is his aim in life?  Greatness--in other people's eyes.  Fame,
admiration, envy--all that which comes from others.  Others dictated his
convictions, which he did not hold, but he was satisfied that others beleived
he held them.  Others were his motive power and his prime concern.  He didn't
want to be great, but to be thought great.  He didn't want to build, but to be
admired as a builder.  He borrowed from others in order to make an impression
on others.  There's your actual selflessness.  It's his ego he's betrayed and
given up.  But everybody calls him selfish."

                                             -Ayn Rand
                                             _The_Fountainhead_

 -I tried to tell her about Marx and Engels, God and Angels,
 -I don't really know what for.
 -nathan marsh
 -st201026@brownvm.brown.edu
From: IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A dream for you analysts out there
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:01:21 GMT
 <1992Nov9.051900.28688@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
 <92314.155955IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
 <DUKE.92Nov11124539@portal.paperboy.osf.org>
Organization: Arizona State University

Never get a job? Oh, but I have several jobs. NOne of which, Thank the Good Lor
d Wherever She May Be Hiding Out, has anything to do with Psych.

Of course, they have to do with universities and politics and publishing
left wing prose and poetry, which is probably worse and far more
stressful, but... what the hell.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (The Ghost with the Most=)
Subject: Re: Angst quote
Keywords: pessimism
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:23:10 GMT

davros@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tyler Yip - UnixWeenie(tm)) writes:

>In article <1992Nov8.045616.4036@Virginia.EDU> mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon") writes:
>>
>>"Existence, well what does it matter?
>> I exist on the best terms I can.
>> The past is now part of my future,
>> The present is well out of hand."
>>
>>			- Joy Division
>>			  "Heart and Soul"
>I FEEL WEEK AND TIRED AND USELESS.  I JUST WANT TO LIE DOWN ON
>THE SIDEWALK AND DIE.  WHAT'S THE USE OF MOVING OR DOING ANYTHING?
>THE SUM TOTAL OF EVERYTHING I'VE EVER DONE ADDS UP TO NOTHING AND 
>EVEN IF THAT WASN'T THE CASE IT WOULDN'T MATTER.
>	-From a friend's t-shirt

I am the shadow child of my world.
-- 
Undead, Undead Undead.
cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
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From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A dream for you analysts out there
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:36:50 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Rachel J. Perkins (rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu) wrote:

: how would you interpret this? i had this recurring dream for many years as 
: a child, and hadn't had it for about 6 years until i had it again last night.
: 
: [elevator dream mostly deleted]
: and i begin to stifle. [...]
: skin is burning against the surface of the car, and i wake up, gasping for 
: breath. 
: [...]
: from time to time. i was always burning up and drenched in sweat when i woke
: up, and occasionally the dream triggered a sort of asthma attack, so i'd have

i've had the same sort of dream intermittently for years. my therapist
called it a night terror or something similar. in mine, i'm just in
bed (though once i was walking home from school and trying to outrun a
tornado and failing, trying to fall and being suspended above the
ground) and i can't move or breathe. so i have to wrench myself out of
sleep and sometimes it's like coming up through layers, like surfacing
from the bottom of a lake. i wake up only i'm just in another level of
dream. i always wake up panting and gasping and freaked. in the dreams
i try to scream but nothing happens.

since they started while i was living at home with the stepmonster and
have tended to recur whenever i'm very stressed by things i see myself
as having no control over, my guess would be they're a reaction to a
threatening situation. is there something going on right now that
threatens to consume you regardless of which option you choose? or a
situation that only has one desirable resolution, a resolution that's
closed to you by forces you see as being beyond your control?

i dunno. i hate that dream. 

--
sine | deb
"sometimes all the shouting stops and the restlessness loses hold, and
 i cry out to everything that nothing is alone" - toad the wet sprocket


Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: deja vu (was Re: I went to work and forgot to dress...)
Organization: Gm1m2/r^2/.organization
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 09:00:41 GMT

I just wanted to clarify a few things...

schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
[article about The Finals Dream and about forgetting to get dressed]

I did not read this article five months ago.
The Finals Dream was not discussed five months ago.
I did not read Rachel's post about the relative importance of sex five months
ago.
You all will not trick me.

After all, the reference line in the article is dated in the present,
so this is not an article that somebody reposted.  Unless someone
only changed the reference.

After all, the signature is wrong.  After all, the subject line is wrong.

I am not a witness in a criminal trial.  Nobody would gain anything by
discrediting my testimony.  (Unless they're planning to hurt me...)

There is no huge joke that I am missing.  Everyone reposting all of
their old articles is too involved a trick anyway.

These are people, not robots.  This is not a huge experiment with me
as the subject.  Nobody has a notebook filled with notes about me.

But it's such an attractive solution...  can there be that many idiots
out there?  The solution is that I'm the only idiot here.  It's such
an attractive solution... if I'm a guinea pig, then I'm being studied
so there's no need to explain to anyone the mess I've made of my life
-- they would understand that mess better than I do.  Maybe someone
could produce a transparency with a scatter plot, point to a dot in
the middle of a cluster and say "See, this subject failed according to
a typical schedule, given the environment and dosage levels we used."
Where is the TV camera?  If I'm a guinea pig, the world accommodates
me, which is good because I'm too tired to accommodate it.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis)
Subject: Re: A dream for you analysts out there
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:17:33 GMT

In <1992Nov9.051900.28688@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> 
rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:

[text of traumatic dream excised]

>hope i don't have it tonight..

Well, at least it's interesting.  All I ever dream about are big dogs attacking
me, and going on journeys by train.  Make of that what you will, O Freudians...

--

Tom Dennis                    |  I looked into the abyss,
dennis@alexia.uiuc.edu        |    and the abyss looked into me--
tadg0614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu     |      and we both winked.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: What really happened in Austin : -)
Organization: depressed
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 18:56:57 GMT

lohrbt@rs6205.ecs.rpi.edu (Trevor Wolfgang Lohrbeer) writes:

>After all, change is what life is all about.

Is it? Changes can be to the worse.
-- 
 _______________________ _________________________________
| Jesper Lauridsen      |      Life is a spectator sport  | 
| rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |     I think, therefore I angst  |
|_______________________|_________________________________|
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From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: alt.suicide.fantasy.interpretation, anyone?
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:38:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.angst
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

weird. i was thinking about this walking from my job to a downtown bus
stop tonight. it was a gorgeous night, maybe 60 degrees, and i was
walking on the bridge over the colorado river. the water was black,
but where the lights of downtown reflected off it you could see
ripples from the wind on the water. everything seemed quiet.

i've always been attracted to edges, real and metaphorical. terrified
of heights, but only because the edge was so seductive, so tempting.
standing near a railing on a tall balcony, i can picture myself
climbing over, and the image brings a folding-inward feeling to my
stomach and my bowels. it's almost a sexual feeling, a rush of warm
sensation coming up from inside as i realize that i could it. i can
picture the unthinkable, and it's scaryexcitingdangerous*alive*.

so i walked over the river tonight, and i looked down over the
guardrails, and i thought, "wow, i could just throw my book and my
walkman and my purse over the edge, into the water, and no one could
stop me." i wanted to for a moment, just to do it, to push things. but
i didn't want to lose these things i liked.

and i think that's why even though i'll always feel the temptation in
a visceral, sexual way, i'll never jump. i don't want to lose these
things i like.

--
sine | deb
"you know it's true that you are blessed and lucky. it's true that you
are touched by something that'll go in bloom... these are days to
remember" -- 10000 maniacs
From: 342E4FW@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Mic)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A happy story
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:34:53 GMT
 <1992Nov5.014033.18247@cs.uwp.edu>
Organization: Central Michigan University


  I think we may just have a little bit too much spare time, no? I once had a
friend who wrote a story similar to that who, upon the story's completion,
began a caughing fit so pronounced that only 17 ham and tuna sandwiches eaten
in succession and an episode of "Green Acres" cured her. I guess what I'm
trying to say is be careful and get some rest.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Subject: Re: Angst music
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:22:59 GMT

"Do you know what it's like to hate,
 When it's way down deep inside?
 Oh God, I hate what's been done to my life."

			- Violent Femmes
			  "Promise"

Whether you like or agree with the beginning of "Add It Up" or 
not, you've got to admit that the Violent Femmes' first album 
is one of the greatest angst albums of all time.
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From: allan@slab.unt.edu (Mark Allan)
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: alt.suicide.fantasy.interpretation, anyone?
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:19:36 GMT
Organization: School of Library & Info Sci, UNT

In article <83306@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>Xref: mercury.unt.edu alt.angst:5769 alt.suicide.holiday:3979
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>From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
>Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.suicide.holiday
>Subject: Re: alt.suicide.fantasy.interpretation, anyone?
>Message-ID: <83306@ut-emx.uucp>
>Date: 10 Nov 92 05:38:33 GMT
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>weird. i was thinking about this walking from my job to a downtown bus
>stop tonight. it was a gorgeous night, maybe 60 degrees, and i was
>walking on the bridge over the colorado river. the water was black,
>but where the lights of downtown reflected off it you could see
>ripples from the wind on the water. everything seemed quiet.
>
>i've always been attracted to edges, real and metaphorical. terrified
>of heights, but only because the edge was so seductive, so tempting.
>standing near a railing on a tall balcony, i can picture myself
>climbing over, and the image brings a folding-inward feeling to my
>stomach and my bowels. it's almost a sexual feeling, a rush of warm
>sensation coming up from inside as i realize that i could it. i can
>picture the unthinkable, and it's scaryexcitingdangerous*alive*.
>
>so i walked over the river tonight, and i looked down over the
>guardrails, and i thought, "wow, i could just throw my book and my
>walkman and my purse over the edge, into the water, and no one could
>stop me." i wanted to for a moment, just to do it, to push things. but
>i didn't want to lose these things i liked.
>
>and i think that's why even though i'll always feel the temptation in
>a visceral, sexual way, i'll never jump. i don't want to lose these
>things i like.
>
>--
Hear, Hear!!

Allan@slab.unt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (King Mosher)
Subject: monday morning angst poetry
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:58:51 GMT

something to get you angsting:
"Life is a tale
 told by an idiot
 signifying nothing."
 some guy that starts with an 's'

--
              Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: a cure for angst?
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:57:20 GMT

In article <1dp2jbINNhhd@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST201026@brownvm.brown.edu (nathan marsh) writes:
>Hell is not feeling anything.  Even when you feel pain, at least you know
>you're *alive*.
>
>ObAngst: Yesterday my netnews server was down, and I was terrified that I was
>missing out on something *really* important.

I can identify with this. This happens from time to time here, and one day when it
happened, I felt really disconnected and isolated and for the first time I had
the feeling of what it would be like to be disconnected from a communal mind or
collective consciousness.

---Steve
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Election Day Angst...
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:31:36 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Therion (HZS@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:

: Actually, we have to wait a while before we can nominate Rachel - you have to
: be over 35.  Who does that leave us? I'm still too young, Sine nomine's too
: young, Nick isn't an american ... oh shit, wait a minute. I *will* be 35 come
: the next election. Damn. Never mind.  "If elected, I will be depressed ...."

i'll be old enough to be vice-president next election... put me on
your ticket, therion. if elected, i promise to drag marmoset into the
vp mansion and not cause any external problems for four years. just
ignore us.

--
sine | deb
putting the "vice" back in the vice-presidency
From: horace@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Trey Hock)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A dream for you analysts out there
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:42:08 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In response to sine nomine,
	I to have had suffocating dreams.  They have been plaguing me for the 
past 7 years.  After being harassed by these psycological vapours for a number
of years, I began to loathe sleeping, but I also expected the dream.  This
offered me some advantages. The first was I could often times tell when I was
dreaming. The second was I also expected to wake up after my dream, something
I probably shouldn't take for granted.  With this add awareness I was, at times
able to have some say in my dreams.  Look for things that make you aware that
you are dreaming, like flying cars or something.  This is just a suggestion,
because I can't 
fully use my knowledge.

try it.


						Horace


In your dreams I walk with you. - Dr. Destiny
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Re: hi there
Organization: Bull Milking Dept., Special Sauce Bureau, McDonald's
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:55:27 GMT

schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>While it goes against the established rules of netiquette to quote 30
>lines of text in a reply consisting of only two, I must say...I liked
>it.
>
>Okay, so it was three.  Damn editor.

Oh, but now it's _FOUR_ lines, five if you count the space in the
middle!!!  You should have added another line to point that out.

Now I can bet back to you on what my friends thought of it.  I said I
would tell you tomorrow, but you know what they say... it's always
tomorrow somewhere in the world.  Ha ha ha.

Charlie the Dog got very excited and started wagging his tail when I
said I was going to read a poem.

My friends smiled and laughed and clapped and nodded as I was reading
it and they smiled and laughed and clapped and nodded when I was done.
Everyone was there except for Betty, who was kept awake last night by
Rob's laughing and clapping in his sleep.  Still, Betty and Rob love
each other very much.  They still fix each other's breakfast and
straighten each other's beds every morning just as they did when they
first married.

Carlos doesn't speak English, but he said (in Spanish, silly!) that he
was sure it must have been a wonderful poem.

Unfortunately, Charlie the Dog pissed on the rug because I read a poem
and didn't take him for a walk afterwards.  But I hugged Charlie to
let him know that I love him anyways.

'bye,
Eric
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling)
Subject: Re: Y
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:13:49 GMT

Relax loosen up and enjoy the day.  OK, maybe tomorow will be shit.
If it isn't there's going to be one day someday that will be.  Lifes
like that, you can't get out of it.  But (your) today sounds OK.  So
enjoy it.  The fastest way to ruin a good time is to think about how
soon it might be over.

	OK ?

	Ben
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A dream for you analysts out there
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:19:00 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ


how would you interpret this? i had this recurring dream for many years as 
a child, and hadn't had it for about 6 years until i had it again last night.

i'm trapped in an elevator in a burning building. i can see the orange flames 
through some sort of windows in the elevator car. i can feel the heat, it's 
searing, and i can hear people screaming in the distance. the buttons on the
elevator take me to any floor but the one i want to go to. i can't get out,
and i begin to stifle. dark shadows come across the floor of the car toward
me. i frantically push random buttons on the elevator, but to no avail. the 
shadows come closer, and i can hear heavy breathing, i fall to the floor, my
skin is burning against the surface of the car, and i wake up, gasping for 
breath. 

this dream always had exactly the same 'setting', but the angles were different
from time to time. i was always burning up and drenched in sweat when i woke
up, and occasionally the dream triggered a sort of asthma attack, so i'd have
to take my inhaler. it was almost that bad last night. 

hope i don't have it tonight..





--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: kovarik@martha.utcc.utk.edu (StMeechTheThwacked)
Subject: Re: A happy story
Organization: Battleground of the Turnip Greens
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:26:52 GMT

In article <92310.173453342E4FW@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Mic <342E4FW@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>  I think we may just have a little bit too much spare time, no? 

Spare time?  Spare time?  I have more jobs than I can count!  I just live
with my terminal!

[Some stuff hacked off like a head or arm in a cheap horror movie]

>I guess what I'm
>trying to say is be careful and get some rest.

On the other hand, when I am not working, there is nothing else to do.
This is Oak Ridge after all.  

And, by the way, the story was based on fact.  I do hang out at the local
Amvets at times.  But I don't usually wear Armani when I am in there.

Wahoos R US.
							Meech
From: carl_aude.nesbmail@qmgate.larc.nasa.gov (carl_aude)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: a cure for angst?
Date: 7 Nov 1992 19:11:16 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: aude.larc.nasa.gov

rachel j. perkins (rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu) wrote:

: trust me on this one dave...i've done the research. sam smith's isa 
: temporary cure. it works wonders on the short term. i love the stuff. but 

That is the whole problem with your 'cures for angst,' they are just temporary. 
A temporary cure is no cure at all.  In fact, I contend that seeing all things as temporary and/ or only 
seeking after things that are temporary is the root of angst. 

I have only read from this newsgroup a short time, but time and time again people make refences to 
how seeking a SO has little point because all relationships end anyhow. With drugs, another common 
'cure', the let down is even more clear. Now I have never tried hard drugs, but tell me, do they bring 
you peace in life? (lack of angst) or do they just make you temporarly blind to your worry?

Pursuing cures for angst, aggrivates angst.

'Who seeks his life will lose it...'

-Carl A.
 carl_aude.nesbmail@qmgate.larc.nasa.gov