From: Mohaghegh
Subject: RE: Baha'i prespective...
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Date: 13 Sep 92 17:22:16 GMT

Mr. Bavafa wants to know that if I have read any of Bahau'llah's book.
The answer is yes and I have read many Baha'i books. To see what I mean
by saying "typical of Mr. Hakim...." I have to go back and bring some
of his personal additions and interpretations.
My apologies to those who don't like to see these sort of articles here.

Hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com writes:
> farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian), you write:
This is Mr. Hakim's words not farzin's.
> >About the most modern Bahai laws I can mention the following:
> >Page 18, line 5 of the Holy book "Aghdass" : Burn alive whomever burns a house
> >intentionally"
> 
> The punishment of "arson" according to the prescription of the Book of
> Aq'das is what you have mentioned above. The important point to remember
> is that the implementation of this law IS NOT left to the individual, but
> given to the society! We view it as the most practical means for the
> PREVENTION of arson.
This is Mr. Hakim's interpretation. Obviously, there is something wrong
with the law.
Isn't it better to force the person to pay for the damages? This way not
only the house is recovered, but also a life has been saved. 
By the way, what is a house? 
> >The 'mahr" for urban women's marriage is 19 misghal of gold and for rural
> >women's 19 misghal of silver!
> Mahrieh is a metaphorical gesture in the Baha'i marriage. Exorbitant
> mahrieh exchanged in Muslim marriages in Iran has been done away with
> in the Baha'i law.
This is Mr. Hakim's interpretation. The issue here is the "inequality between
same sexes" not the amount of mahr. Obviously, there is something wrong
with the law. Who is an urban women? Is it by birth or by accent?
> >Seyed Bab's teaching is really noble:
>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Don't drink donkey's milk and don't carry weghts on the cowsand don't hit
> >the eggs to something before you cook it! Page 49 of Bayan-e-Arabi
> 
> The Bab has, in the Arabic Bayan, forbidden the consumption of donkey's
> milk. The approximate translation of the verse under discussion is:
> "Do not drink donkey's milk and do not force the animal outside of its
> ability and tolerance."
There is no mention of "do not force the animal outside of its ability
and tolerence". Mr. Hakim has protected himselfself by the word 
"approximate" translation. So, I invite him to write the Arabic version.
> I am not going to pretend that I understand the reason for this rule, yet,
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^              
Is this the meaning of "the independent search for the truth"?
> as a Messenger of God of the same caliber as Prophet Muhammad and Moses,
> The Bab had the authority to establish or abrogate dietary laws. Please
> note that Moses made the consumption of pork meat forbidden, yet, this
> law became inapplicable during the ministry of Jesus, and was enforced
> again through the Qur'anic dispensation. The nobility of the dietary law
> established by The Bab is similar to the nobility of the laws established
> by Prophet Muhammad. Another example of this issue is the religious
> prohibition against certain kinds of fish in the Muslim law.
> In reference to carrying of weights on cows: The Bab reveals in the
> Arabic Bayan: "Don't allow a cow to carry something or give ride if you
> believe in God and His verses." [My own approximate translation of the
> verse]
> This is the first time in the history of religion where laws are revealed
> about the rights of animals. Through this law, The Bab forbids his follower
> to subject the animal to constant pressure and hardship of work and finally
> slaughter it for the consumption of its meat. In Islam, it is lawful to
> use cows for carrying and riding and slaughter. The Bab is abrogating this
> practice.
This is Mr. Hakim's interpretation and addition.
There is no animal rights in Baha'i faith. As a matter of fact perhaps, 
the only religion that urges its followers to wear clothes made from
the skin of Mink, is the Baha'i faith.
> In reference to eggs: The Bab reveals in the Arabic Bayan, whose approximate
> translation is as follows: "Don't hit eggs to anything which might spoil
> what is inside, before cooking it." Another issue mentioned about eggs in
> the Bayan is: "If there appears blood inside of an egg, you might consume
> that egg and God will forgive you."
> Any intelligent person such as yourself could readily recognize that a
> cracked egg is unhealthy. It can serve as a perfect medium for the growth
> of various germs resulting in illness. E-Coli is one such bacteria which
> grows in egg, which can cause serious health problems. A close look at
> the practices of people in the Middle-east clarifies the reason behinds
> this law. Another aspect of the verse of the Bayan deals with the
> presence of blood in Egg. The Bab makes the consumption of such an egg
> lawful by abrogates the Islamic practice.
This is Mr. Hakim's personal interpretation.
I think he has forgotten two things though. If the eggs are not hit to 
anything before they are cooked , then they won't crack open. If the
eggs are not cracked, then think what happens. I believe we already know
that if we are not allowed to hit eggs to anything before they are cooked,
then we won't be able to see if there is blood in them.
Do you see now what I mean when I say Mr. Hakim is trying to promote 
something which is not promotable?
Mohaghegh




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