From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Content of Recycled Paper (Was Re: A Dearth of Jobs)
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:25:57 GMT
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In article <1992Sep8.080701.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> I would not recommend Gore's book to anyone with a weak stomach.... it's
> printed on recycled paper, or in layperson's terms, it's printed on other
> people's old garbage.  

This is false, as anyone who has made even a casual attempt to inform him/her-
self wrt recycling knows.  The only kinds of paper that are accepted for re-
cycling are office paper (printouts, xerox and typewriter paper, etc), news-
papers, and certain classes of cardboard.  Pizza boxes, for instance, are NOT
accepted because of the possibility of food particles adhering to them.  Gar-
bage *specifically* is "spoiled or waste food" (Webster's New World Diction-
ary, 2nd. ed., 1978, p. 575), and therefore specifically cannot be recycled.
(Note, too, that toilet paper is also outside the definition of garbage, un-
less cdpert01 honestly believes it's supposed to be eaten.)  In laypeople's
terms, Gore's book is printed on other people's discarded paper, not on
garbage.

> ... it is quite possible that the pages in Gore's book are made from old
> toilet paper.  

Also obviously false.  Most used toilet paper goes into the sewage systems,
where it is dissolved, treated, and dumped into the world's water supply.
Most of the remaining toilet paper (i.e., not contaminated with fecal wastes)
is not accepted at recycling centers, as it doesn't fit any of the acceptable
categories listed above.  The tiny fraction remaining is lots or lot ends
from paper factories which the factories cannot sell ("seconds", lot ends in-
sufficient for complete rolls, etc).  If a paper factory doesn't have its own
program for reintegrating these entirely useable remnants into later produc-
tion runs, I would hope it would attempt to find a recycler that would accept
them.  There's nothing stomach-turning about unused toilet paper (or how does
cdpert01 manage to buy it (assuming cdpert01 uses it), seeing it's sold in
the same stores as food that cdpert01 is expected to eat, and therefore the
roll of toilet paper might actually touch food as it sits in the grocery bag
on the way home?), and there are no health concerns in using unused toilet
paper to make fresh paper.

> Recycling is definitely a tacit theme of this book -- 

Good for him!  And it!  Is it truly only tacit, or does Gore actually talk
about it overtly?  (It's been sold out here since it came out, and I haven't
been able to see a copy, let alone read one.)

(Muse mode on)  How, btw, does cdpert01 get groceries home, anyway?  S/he ob-
viously can't use the usual paper grocery bags, because of his/her ignorance
and fear of recycled paper, so s/he must be using plastic grocery bags.  But
plastic is made from petroleum, which comes from rotted animal and vegetable
matter -- in short, it really *is* recycled garbage (as defined in Webster),
mud, fecal matter, end-products of anaerobic bacteria, and all kinds of tasty
stuff!  What does poor cdpert01 use?  Not paper bags, because of ignorance,
and surely not plastic, because it's 100% made of what s/he mistakenly fears
the paper might have only traces of!

And styrofoam!  Does cdpert01 have *any* idea what styrofoam is made of?!
Weak stomach, indeed!!  And the food that cdpert01 eats!  It's grown using --
fertilizer!  And that's made from guano!  Look it up:  bat dung!  cdpert01
must be starving to death! ;o)  (Muse mode off)

> his solution to the environmental problem is basically recycled Marxism.

This sounds like the typical garbage (definition #2 ("any worthless, unnec-
essary, or offensive matter")) coming from the Republiars.
1. What does it have to do with the content, real or imagined, of recycled
   paper?
2. Can cdpert01 (or anyone) give any proof whatsoever that there's any Marx-
   ism, recycled or otherwise, in the book?  Two examples, with references,
   would be nice.


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