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From: dmeier@wood.helios.nd.edu (daniel meier)
Subject: Re: Fred McGriff
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:39:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.233136.20144@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra) writes:
>In article <3356@equinox.unr.edu> schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Household Word) writes:
>>Did everyone see that grand slam that McGriff hit against the Dodgers
>>on Friday (4/10)?  It was in the air about two seconds, and landed
>>halfway up the seats above the right-center wall.  If he hits 40,
>>I think my Padres can contend.  
>	
>	May be true. Depends on a few other things too. Dodger pitching,
>Reds relieving, and the 'repeat-jinx'. However, McGriff has been 
>impressive the first week. Nice home run last night.
>>
>>What they need to do is take down that plastic fence that was installed
>>c. 1984.  That way, only Fred can homer in the Murph.  Does anyone
>>have a better swing than McGriff?  I haven't seen one...
>
>	Yeah, not only can I think of a person with a better swing, I can
>think of two, two first baseman, both national leaguers: Will Clark and
>Mark Grace.
>
What about Rafael Palmero in the A.L.  Swings don't get much better than
his.
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: NL Roster questions...
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:02:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <2817@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> hjeat@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Jerry Eaton) writes:
>
>Mike Simms was out of reassignment-to-the minors options, and the Astros
>traded Simms in the last few days of Spring training to the Philles for RHP
>Jason Grimsley, who had major control problems last year. Grimsley was assigned
>to the Astros AAA team in Tuscon (PCL). I don't know if the Phillies are
>carrying Simms on the major league roster or not.

Is this true?  I thought the deal was Schilling for Grimsley straight. Yecch.


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From: lyle@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Lyle Youngblood)
Subject: Re: Final Call for predictions...
Keywords: Waiting for Sherri, Jonathan, and many others...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:45:22 GMT

  Apologies to anyone who read the previous article.  It was mis-posted.
I have killed it.
                         Lyle

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From: pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Unbearable Braves Promotion
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:36:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Mdt08Lq00iV1A0pf1l
Organization: Senior, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



Did anyone catch the Braves special(hosted by Goodman) on TBS. That's
what i hate about a national cable channel(yeah I know it's based in
ATlanta and is a UHF channel there, and Turner owns the Braves, but I
ams till going to consider it a national cable channel) which owns a
baseball team. Too bad, KDKA in PIttsbuirgh is not a superstation. 

It was such shameless promotion. Even if I wasn't a Pirates fan, I would
have found the special ridiculous. It had such corny background music.
We were supposed to believe everytoner in America were moved to tears
while watching the Braves make it to the finals. They were just plain
lucky to meet a team notorious for having its three main batting stars
who like to choke. 

The way they dramatised everything was so funny that I thought I was
watching a spoof of their tribute.

I knew something like this would happen. I hope the Reds make it to the
playoffs, instead of the Braves. For some reason, the Pirates loss to
their traditional 70s rival(REDS) in 1990 was much easier to take than
their 1991 loss to the Braves.
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: For METS FANS only: re Bonilla
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:37:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.003636.22512@wam.umd.edu> macole@wam.umd.edu (Mario A. Cole) writes:
>In article <u8e8iB6w164w@banana.ithaca.ny.us> henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos) writes:
>>In the game that ended with a 15-7 loss, the Mets staged a late 
>>rally for four runs in the 9th during which Bonilla had to be 
>>dragged out of the clubhouse. He appeared after some delay with 
>>his shirt still unbuttoned.
>
>Hmm, sort of reminds me of the time Strawberry and McRenolds headed
>out of the Club house and into the locker room before the game was
>over.

Or what about the time Keith Hernandez was sitting in the clubhouse
drinking a beer while the Mets came back and won Game 6?

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com



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From: cayanc@vccsouth11.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Andres Cayanan)
Subject: Re: Yankees pitching
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 23:36:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.035245.3819@mercury.cair.du.edu> baxtman@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Captain Chaos) writes:
>Who do the Yankees have for their pitchers these days.
>I know they still have a perez and Sanderson but
>other than that I am lost.
>
>Yankees Will win the Series again......   Someday
>
>Captain Chaos



>Who do the Yankees have for their pitchers these days.
>I know they still have a perez and Sanderson but
>other than that I am lost.

Well, after Sanderson, there's Jeff Johnson, Melido Perez, Tim Leary, and I`m 
not sure who their number 5 starter is.  I thought it was going to be Cadaret,
but he made an appearance in relief a couple of days ago. 

>Have you seen whom the Yankees played against the Red Sox.  I think
>they aren't using their potential at all.  They benched Muelens and
>Kevin Mass and they aren't even making Tartabull play the outfield
>and bernie williams isn't playing.  Well Maybe later in the year.  They
>did however win and that's what counts uh.

As for Meulens, th Yanks gave him a shot at 3rd base (basically because there
is no room for him in the outfield), and he was horrible. Too many errors.
That is also the problem that Maas has fallen into.  Too many Outfielders.
The Yanks have been trying to get rid of Barfield, but they've gotten no real
takers.

And the Yanks win again 4-0. With Leary going 8 innings, 4 hits.

>Yankees Will win the Series again......   Someday

Is that someday, NOW????  Hmmmmm.
:)

cayanc@rpi.edu
AXP
From: monty@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Monty Norwood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs Win!
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:50:21 GMT
Organization: Harris Computers Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale,FL

In article <kuid2vINNii5@aludra.usc.edu> dittrich@aludra.usc.edu (Matt Dittrich) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.191043.18634@news.iastate.edu> mjkugel@iastate.edu (Michael J Kugel) writes:
>>
>>For the first time in his career Grace might actually be trying to hit
>>for power as opposed to average.  Time will tell if he'll be successful
>>at it, but he's of to a good start.
>>
>
>Seems to me he was touted as a HR man when he first came up to the majors.
>I think he hit quite a few HR's in the minors.  
>
>Stats, anyone?

I don't have the minor league stats handy, but my recollection is that he was 
never considered a HR (or even a power) hitter. People thought he might show 
more power as he moved into his peak years (15-20 HRs a year) since he was only
23-24 when he played his rookie season. After hitting 13 in 1989, he has hit
9 and 8 the last two seasons. He hit 7 (I think) in his rookie year, oddly
all came on the road. He will turn 28 on 6/28 (born in 1964) and so should be
in his prime (assuming you believe peak years occur at the ages 27-28). Last
year was quite disappointing (.272 BA, .346 OBP, .373 SLG), but he has
slugged over .400 each of his other seasons with close to a .900 OPS in 1989
if I recall (I checked it was .457 SLG and .405 OBP so .862 OPS). In 1990,
he was .309 BA, .413 SLG and .372 OBP -- not spectacular but not bad. His
rookie season was .296 BA, .403 SLG, and .371 OBP.

Thus, if Grace puts up his normal numbers expect a slugging % of just over
.400 and a good OBP of .370+. No Will Clark, but quite solid. Of course
the Cubs would like more out of a 1B, but as lots of people will tell you,
a good OBP person never HURTS an offense.
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From: maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison)
Subject: Mark Grace
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:08:45 GMT

Who in the Cubs organization thinks Grace is God??
I'm serious who does??

Why would you put up with a first baseman like that and dump the likes of
Rafael Palmeiro who is listed as the most valuable 1b in the AL last year??

Enquiring Minds really want to know..

BTW- I realize that Palmeiro was listed first because Thomas didn't get enough
     playing time at 1b, but even second behind Thomas is better than Grace
     any day..
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From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Field of Dreams
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  6 Apr 92 03:07:12 GMT

Several friends and I are going on a baseball roadtrip this summer, and
we would like to stop at the farm in Iowa where Field of Dreams was
filmed. I understand that the baseball diamond is still there, and that
it is avaliable for visitors.

Does anyone have informations as to where it is located, directions on
how to get there, any charges, or anything else of information?

Has anyone visited there?

Please respond via e-mail
Thanks!

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OPENING DAY!!!
From: cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: I Told You Bonilla Was Worth the Money
Keywords: Seriously:  A Truly Different Mets' Team
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:43:35 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1992Apr7.182954.27378@auto-trol.com> mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles) writes:
>In article <1244@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr7.135124.26463@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dick1@hera.uucp (25436-vaughn) writes:
>>...I know this because a. he won't beable play the whole season at Busch with
>>it's now shorter fences. b. as the season progress the "good pitchers" will 
>>never throw him those types of pitches when they have two strikes on him.  c.
>>Because he plays for the Mets.
>
>Oh, I'm sorry, I just couldn't pass this one up.  Did you *see* either of the
>home runs?  They would have very happily traveled out of *any* park in either
>league.  Please!  Don't tell me about short fences!
>
>On the other hand, I'm not sending my check for the World Series at Shea quite
>yet either, I just couldn't let that one go...
>
>Matt
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For those "Counting their High-Bonilla Stocks before their Made",  Only
.012345679 percent of the season games have been played and people have
the idea Bonilla already is guaranteeed  [ 45 HRS, 155 RBIs, 98 RUNS,
.950 FA and etc.].  Their are 160 games left to go folks, Don't count
the chickens before their hatched.

Dan
From: v083qpkr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeffrey C Toth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Dodgers
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:24:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Well, baseball is here again, and that means more bullshit play from the
Dodgers.  Sure they look good on paper, but
when they couldn't even beat Atlanta last year to make it to the playoffs, well
that really tells ya something huh?
Tommy Lasorda should get his slim-fast ass out of baseball.  He couldn't even
manage his weight.
Strawberry is just a cry baby and now with his childhood friend Davis there now
it should be just so much better watching them both strike out a few thousand
times.
You Dodger fans should see more wins from them than from the Rams, but hey, you
never know, I wouldn't put that above them.

Jeff
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Prince Hal
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:57:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Apr9.193159.1114@lmpsbbs.mot.com> hayosh@mot.com (Tom Hayosh) writes:
>As most of you already know by now, Hal Newhouser was elected to the
>Hall of Fame by the Veterans Committee this year.  I was thrilled to
>see this happen.  Prince Hal lives in my parents neighborhood.  When I
>was about 8 years old, I walked over to his house to ask him for an
>autograph.  I was very nervous.  He opened the door ... he was SO TALL!
>He signed my piece of paper and smiled, I thanked him, and that was it.
>I had actually met a major league baseball player!  Ever since then, I
>have been a big Hal Newhouser fan.  Every year, I hoped the Veterans
>would finally put him in the Hall.  And every year, I was very disappointed.
>Until now.
>
Thanks, Tom, for a little reminder of the REAL importance of baseball in our
lives.  :)


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From: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Phillies opening day.
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:05:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Don's Merry Horde of Topologists


	I had tickets for the Phils opening day game yesterday and was
planning to post a full report on the game. However this was assuming that I
saw the full game... With an opening day crowd of 60,431 (the largest
opening day crowd in Phillies history), getting to the stadium was a
nightmare and a half and I was stuck in a traffic jam in clear view of the
stadium for almost 2 hours. Thus I got to my seat at the end of the 4th
inning. What follows in something of an abbreviated report.
	Terry Mulholland looked somewhat inconsistant for the Phils. He
didn't seem to be getting hit that hard (although I missed seeing Grace's
HR), but he did give up several hits in a row in the 5th to blow a lead. The
bright side was that he was throwing a lot of ground ball pitches and he got
a couple of key double plays.
	The offense looked like they had their mind elsewhere. As everyone
has probably heard by now Dykstra got hit on the arm by the second pitch and
broke a bone. He tried to play and didn't fare too well. With him struggling
it seemed like most of the other players got discouraged. John Kruk was the
notable exception, hitting the ball well including slugging a long fly out
to the deepest part of center field.
	The general atmosphere was that of a three-ring circus. A bunch of
morons-- er-- fans out in center field had brought about 8 beach balls with
them and by the end of the game most of them had wound up on the field.
Everyone kept talking about the new uniforms too. My opinion is that they're
fairly nice, but nothing spectacular. They're basically the Whiz Kid era
uniforms with a few changes. (A Liberty Bell logo on the socks, names on the
back of the jersey, numbers on the sleeves, etc.) Quite frankly they look
mildly silly in a concrete bowl stadium with artificial turf. If Giles would
ever get the guts to try and carry out those plays for a 50,000 seat
baseball only stadium we'd be set.
	In short, I didn't really enjoy the game, but I'm hoping that it was
just special circumstances resulting from it being opening day.

-Jeff
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real good time." - _Synners_ by Pat Cadigan
From: pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: WHICH Is the only National League Team to win 2000 games since 69?
Date: 10 Apr 1992 15:58:11 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

Only one team in the National League thus far has won 2000 games since
divisional setup began in 1969.  Which team is it?
Answer  will be posted tomorrow.
From: tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Good guys, Bad Guys
Date: 17 Apr 92 21:07:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>  OK so the thread from Rickey Henderson vs. Nolan Ryan has kind of diverged
>from who's better to how Rickey is an idiot and whether or not we perceive him
>that way because of race. In reality I believe that the people view the
>players purely by what the media wants us to see and wants us to show. We see
>our heroes on a baseball field for 3 hours a day so it's difficult to judge   
>them from that so we have to rely on what the press picks up about the players
>to pass our judgements on them.
>  A few sample cases:
>
>Dave Stewart-
> Seems like a nice guy and I know he donates a lot of money towards charity and
>devotes time to help out. Of course he never won the Cy Young but of course
>he never deserved to.   But the thing about Stewart is how he gets overshadowed by 
>guys like Carney Lansford. This might be some form of racism (granted he did
>stink last year)

Carney Lansford overshadowing Dave Stewart?  Do you live in Lansford's hometown
or something?  Stewart gets far more attention and respect. 
 
>Lenny Dykstra or Darren Daulton-
> Remember the car crash when both players were injured? I think their was a
>drinking under the influence of alcohol suit charged; yet these players remain
>clean.

My image (and that of most of my friends) of Dykstra is that he is one of the 
toughest, most competitive players I have ever seen.  And he has very little
in the way of a brain.

>Eric Davis vs. George Brett-
>  Both players have a history of injuries. Why is one a crying whimp while the
>other is not? 

This comparison is completely absurd.

					>Gord Niguma
					>(fav player- John Olerud)
					>(better than the media will tell you)
GT
(hates Olerud because he wears that batting helmet everywhere)
From: SASCHO@mvs.sas.com (SASCHO)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs Win!
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:56:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: mvs.19920408105604SASCHO
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
X-Bytes: 470

>I only saw the third(?) inning, the one where Scott dropped the ball, the
>Phillies ended up scoring two runs, etc.  I was really having my doubts about
>the trade, the season, and the Cubs.  I must say it sure was a nice
>suprise to hear they won. There's hope
>Joe
 
Grace hit that ball an awfully long way for a guy with no power! :-)
Couldn't resist, I like the guy.
 
 
Chuck Oertli
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs Win!
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:41:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.224824.18302@lmpsbbs.mot.com> stanm@comm.mot.com writes:
>I don't want to flame Nelson on this, but how many times during the year does the 
>wind at Wrigley blow out? Not as often as you'd think.

I don't want to flame you for this, either, but nobody mentioned the wind.
Wrigley is a good hitter's park; the wind is one possible explanation for
it.

> Also, most of the hitters who love Wrigley Field eat up Cubs pitching for
>lunch. Thus, it's better to be visiting 
>Wrigley rather than making it your home, in some cases. 

Cubs opponents hit better in Wrigley than they do facing the Cubs on the
road. 

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
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From: frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown)
Subject: Cards/Mets Game... Coleman Injured (?)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:11:46 GMT

Unsubtantiated rumor...

	Mets are clubbing the Cards today like baby seals, but Coleman
came out of the game with aggravated hamstring...

			Inquiring minds, etc, etc, 

			frisbee
From: kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Gant's stolen base was stolen
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:33:59 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Apr14.165616.12376@menudo.uh.edu>, chee1l5@jetson.uh.edu (Sam Lane) writes:
> In Sunday's Braves game vs the Giants, Ron Gant was stealing second and 
> clearly beat the throw to the bag.  However, the momentum of his slide
> carried him off the bag and he was tagged out.  As evidence of the fact
> that he was originally safe, the umpire waited till he came off the bag and
> was tagged to call him out.  In Monday's Houston Post, this play was 
> counted as a caught stealing and no stolen base was awarded.
> 
> It seems to me that since he was originally safe at second, he should have 
> gotten a stolen base.  What's the right call here ?

I don't know exactly what the rules say, but it would seem to me that since it
was one continuous play, the call of caught stealing is correct.  Just my
opinion, though.  Maybe if someone has a rule book handy they could tell you
better.
 
> How 'bout Prime Time's 4-4 performance(2 3B's,2B,1B) last night ?

Pissed me off.  I'm a Braves fan, and just I was about to pick Deion on
my Rotisserie team, someone else scarfed him up!  :)

Ken
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: *** THE JAYS ARE KICKIN' ***
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:37:59 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

chuong@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (CHUONG  HAN HSING) writes:

> As the entire North American continent saw on television, the Toronto
>Blue Jays - behind the awesome pitching of Jack Morris - stymed the Detriot
>Tigers.  With homeruns from Olerud and Boarders backed up with gold-glove
>defense from Alomar and White, Toronto's win was inevitable.  Let all who
>oppose Toronto's supremacy eat our dust!

so, this inevitableness means not only that jack morris will
 go undefeated, but the blue jays will as well?

this i gotta see. 

(devil's advocate, i know the blue jays have the best record over
 the past 10 years) - so, how many world series HAVE the blue jays
 gotten to?  oh, just checking.

- bob gaj
From: dittrich@aludra.usc.edu (Matt Dittrich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs Win!
Date: 13 Apr 1992 00:12:31 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Grace and power

In article <1992Apr8.191043.18634@news.iastate.edu> mjkugel@iastate.edu (Michael J Kugel) writes:
>
>For the first time in his career Grace might actually be trying to hit
>for power as opposed to average.  Time will tell if he'll be successful
>at it, but he's of to a good start.
>

Seems to me he was touted as a HR man when he first came up to the majors.
I think he hit quite a few HR's in the minors.  

Stats, anyone?
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