HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Benchmark = OJ
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:04:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX

>>The record kept increasing until Jim Brown rushed for 1860+ yards in the
>>60's (he did it in 12 games), and that record stood until 1972 when O.J.
>
>Why do people keep insisting that Jim Brown got 1800 yards in a 12 game season?
>For the last time... JIM BROWN SET HIS RECORD IN A 14 GAME SEASON!!!! OJ SIMPSON
>THEN BROKE THAT RECORD IN A 14 GAME SEASON. NOBODY HAS EVER GOTTEN 2000 IN A
>14 GAME SPAN SO 1972 STILL REMAINS THE BENCHMARK FOR GREAT SEASONS BY A RUNNING
>BACK!

I think you are right.  I believe Jim Brown owns the record for most yards per
game during a season, but it was during a 12-game season earlier in his career.
Perhaps that is why everyone (including me) thinks he did it in 12 games.

I wasn't around to watch Brown, but I remember OJ, and there has been none
like him in my time.  I remember one classic Simpson outing: he rushes for
275 yards including a long run where he made a 90 degree cut through the
line at full speed and was 5 yards behind the safties before they could
even turn around.  He scored 2 TDs, and Buffalo lost 28-14.

David
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From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: Packer news: Butler in trouble, TMs dog killed
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:47:41 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)

In article <1992Dec10.002209.29233@news2.cis.umn.edu> dubear@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Dubear Kroening) writes:
>Now, if
>the league would be consistent and punish other cheap shots in a similar
>manner, I wouldn't mind this suspension at all.

Look.  The only reason this particular incident got Butler a suspension is
because someone got it on video tape and someone else decided it would be
something cool to show on Prime Time TV.  Had it not received the airplay
it did receive, we wouldn't have heard a thing from the league.

We can, at least, rest assured that video tapes work better in the NFL than
they do in Las Angeles.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
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Subject: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Predictions for Week 16
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:45:39 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

Here are the computer program's predictions for Week 16.
HIGHLIGHT GAMES: Was-Phl: The Redskins luck continues?
                 Min-Pit: Vikings finally clinch over fallen Steelers?
===



        
                     Week #16 Game Predictions


       Dallas         ___   29          Chicago        ___   25

     @ Atlanta        ___   21        @ Detroit        ___   24



       L.A. Rams      ___   20          Buffalo        ___   21

     @ Green Bay      ___   26        @ New Orleans    ___   25



       Kansas City    ___   27          Washington     ___   23

     @ N.Y. Giants    ___   21        @ Philadelphia   ___   22



       Tampa Bay      ___   12          New England    ___   20

     @ San Francisco  ___   37        @ Cincinnati     ___   22



       Houston        ___   23          Seattle        ___   16

     @ Cleveland      ___   19        @ Denver         ___   20



       Phoenix        ___   20          San Diego      ___   20

     @ Indianapolis   ___   14        @ L.A. Raiders   ___   17



       N.Y. Jets      ___   16          Minnesota      ___   24

     @ Miami          ___   22        @ Pittsburgh     ___   17
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin  "People that are really very weird can get into
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu   sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact
Keep circulating the tapes.      on history." -- Dan Quayle, on Malcolm X

"Father yes son, I want to kill you.  Mother, I want to----WUAAAAAAAAAAARGH!"
	-- Jim Morrison, waxing poetic on family values
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for improving instant replay
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:36:25 GMT

In article <lj348vINNn9a@langtry.cs.utexas.edu>, joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just) writes:
[51% certain instead of "conclusive"]
>This would help to solve the problem of people complaining that the game keeps
>being stopped so that the replay official can say, "The play stands."  More
>calls would definitely be overturned.

So just as much time would be spent, but more calls would be changed.  This
would not be much of an improvement -- most of the plays last year were
conclusive (many were "conclusive" that the call on the field was correct).

>2)  Full-time replay officials.  Make sure that the replay officials know the
>rules inside and out.  They could spend the week reviewing questionable calls
>in the games they officiated and in other games that week.  They could confer
>with each other on how these plays should have been called.  I'm not sure how
>much it would cost to hire full-time replay officials, but this would solve
>the problem of replay officials making the wrong call because of ignorance of
>the rules.  And if the final call rests in the replay official's hands, he
>darn sure better know the rules!

Do you think they hire off-duty bank tellers to officiate on weekends??  The
replay officials (as well as the field personnel) know the rules pretty well,
IMHO.

But the replay officials should also have an online system set up, so they
could consult the text of the rules, if there was any doubt.

>Side benefit:  By putting the calls under such close scrutiny every week,
>this would also help officials to find ambiguities in the rules themselves.

They probably scrutinize already.

>vote on each questionable call--majority rules.  Again, I'm not sure how
>expensive it would be to hire more officials.

Nothing compared to what the players get paid.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packers and Robbins
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:47:26 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Hi,

Back when the Pack was facing the much-hyped Eagles defense, Favre had
good protection through much of the game.  Yesterday, against the Oilers
pass rush, he was hurried, knocked down and sacked.  The big difference
between the two games was the absence of Tootie Robbins in the latter.

Is this guy THAT good??  If so, why on Earth did the Cards give him up 
for a 6th round draft pick (yeah he's getting old but he must be effective)?

satish nair
giants (5-11 in '92)
From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills Sweep NFC West!!!
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Bobby Hebert is now 15-1 against
AFC opponents. :)



Doug

                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                  |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Gaint's Season is over.
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:51:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bz6AEH.Iyu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Talk about a team where everything is going wrong; The Gaints
are out of the playoff hunt in the NFC after being shut out
by the Cards...19-0.

Earlier the Bills recorded an unimpressive win over the
Elwayless Broncos.....27-17. At one point, it looked as
if the Broncos will tie the Bills, but, a superb rush
by Thermal put that out of the question.

But if the Bills play at the same level, they can forget
about the Super-Bowl.

S.H
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From: guthrie@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter D Guthrie)
Subject: Re: Colts
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:05:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.020003.8563@en.ecn.purdue.edu> guthrie@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter D Guthrie) writes:
>     You know what's crazy?  I receive over 200 hundred articles a day
>in this newsgroup and for the past week, not one has ever discussed the
>Indianapolis Colt's prospects for the play off picture.  Sure, they do
>not have any outstanding players right now but that has not stopped them
>from winning games.  They have managed to beat the Dolphins at home
>when they were considered one of the hottest teams in the NFL.  They 
>also beat Buffalo a couple of weeks ago and they have continued their
>winning streak since.  Right now they are 7-7 and they only have two 
>games left: Phoenix at home and away at Cincinnati.  Now, it would seem
>to me that the Colts can easily beat these two teams and that would put
>them at 9-7.  Generally speaking, a record like that will at least get
>them a wild card.  The other teams they are in contention for the Wild
>Card will certainly lose a game or two these next two weeks which will
>give the Colts their spot.  Even without Coryatt and Emtmann, the Colts
>are still a viable team for the playoff picture and who knows, they may
>even make it to the Superbowl.
> 
>                             Peter Guthrie
>                             guthrie@en.ecn.purdue.edu
>
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Subject: Green Bay/Minnesota Tie Breaker
From: dmclelan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:23:47 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

If Green Bay and Minnesota both end the season at 10-6

    Green Bay winning Both
    Minnesota losing vs Green Bay

Who holds the Tie breaker??
And how far down the tie breaking system does it have to go?

  Thanks
    Darin

Go Chiefs!!!
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From: kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester)
Subject: Re: Packers still alive
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:22:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.210937.13577@bmw.mayo.edu> bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu
(Chad D. Bergerson) writes:
>
>
>In article <3141@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
writes:
>->From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
>->Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
>->Subject: Re: Packers still alive
>->
>->In article <1992Dec14.185818.13425@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu
(JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>->>To win the NFC Central the Packers still have to beat the Rams in GB 
>->>and the Vikings in Minn and the Vikings must lose to the Steelers in 
>->>Pitt next weekend.
>->
>->Gads, who would have thought it seven weeks ago, but the Packers are
actually
>->looking pretty good to win the NFC Central!  They should be able to handle
the
>->Rams (unlike some teams; oops, just a grumble from a Cowboys fan), and after
>->such an embarrassing loss to Chicago, the Steelers are going to be pretty
>->fired up for the Vikings game.
>->
>->This will be the only interesting divisional race left on the last week of
>->the season.  Two divisional foes, winner takes all -- football in December!
>->Gotta love it!  It would be better, though, at Lambeau Field; outside, where
>->football is supposed to be played.
>->
>->Daniel Welch
>->
>
>It wasn't an embarrassing loss for the Steelers.  They got pounded by the
Bears
>because they are not that good, probably the most over-rated in football.
>You think that the Bears pounded them???  Wait until you see what the Viking D
>does to the one-dimensional, Bubby-led steeler offense. 
>
>Hopefully, the Vikes are sick and tired of saying "we'll clinch next week" and

>get it done.  They have actually played better on the road this year, which
IMO
>is a welcome change from the past when they would go 8-0 at home but suck on
>the road.  Maybe less pressure on the QB and offense to produce away from the
>Dome will help also.
> 
>--
>*******************************************************************************

>Chad D. Bergerson                            Internet: bergerson@mayo.edu
>Mayo Clinic                                  Voice: (507) 255-7567
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>Mail Stop 2D-334 STM            "In my dream I was drowning my sorrows  
>Rochester, MN  55905             But my sorrows they learned to swim..." - U2
>*******************************************************************************

>

Actually, the Steelers and Vikes are very similar teams.  Great defenses and
great RBs, but their QB play is killing them (the Skins fit this description
also).  I doubt if either team will go much past the first round of the
playoffs, unless they can get improved play from the QBs.  This will be easier
for the steelers since Neal should be back soon.

Bill Perry
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Christmans is approaching
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:22:43 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania




Said the north wind to the little lamb,
Do you hear what I hear:
	"The Cowpussies suck"
	"The Whiners are just lucky"
	

Ahh... the lovely sounds of approaching playoffs!!

satish nair
go giants (5-11 in '92!)

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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Only the Buccaneers could manage this.
Keywords: Buccaneers, 49'ers, Bengals, Bucs
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:46:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.225422.12927@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>So....what do you think the odds are of Boomer being in town next year?
>More important, will Testeverde be in town next year, and if so, at what
>salary?  And what about Erickson?
>
Let's see:  don't know, yes,  who knows these days,  and don't know.
But, man,  really weird things start going through your mind if you
stay up and listen to the all-night,  call-in, sports  radio  shows.
One night,  recently, a former Wyche-coached quarterback was quoted
as saying (paraphrased):

   "I want to play next year and I want to start. If not here,
    then somewhere.  I'd rather start for a team that doesn't
    win any games, than to sit and not play."

The quote was given by a reporter that covers him regularly. The QB
was Joe Montana.

See what I mean about weird things going through your mind?
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|ph: (813) 530-8425   |  a mind are terrible  | P.O. Box 2826, LG-132,|
|lej@pdn.paradyne.com |  things to waste."    | Largo, FL 34649 (USA) |
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Saints/Bills This Sunday
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:01:55 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Dec19.210722.13224@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>In article <1992Dec19.141633.3103@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> chris@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
>>In article <1992Dec18.175625.245@pbhyg.PacBell.COM> dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok) writes:
>>>As a 49er fan I'm surprised that there is little traffic on 
>>>the net about the Saints/Bills game.  Should be a great
>>>game.
>>>
>>>Who will win this game.  I am partial to NO because I think
>>>they are playing great now.  Besides, they are at home and
>>>it is real tough to play in their dome.
>>  
>>   I am looking forward to the game.  It will be a good test for the
>>roller-coaster (ing) Bills.  A good show is needed this weekend and next
>>if the Bills want to be taken seriously WHEN they make it to the SB :)
>>
>> Chris  a Bills fan
>>
>This should be an excellent TEST for both of these teams. The 
>Saints D up against the explosive Bills offense. If the Saints
>can neutralize the Bills O, then it will be long day. Conversely,
>if the Bills can pick apart the Saints D, then watch out. The
>Saints, IMHO, will be Kelly's face all day and Hebert could show
>his stuff. The NFC already won Saturday's game, Giants 35  Chiefs 21.
>Let us make it another NFB win.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it was an AFC win. The Bills are 4-0 against
the defense this year (5-0 after the Super Bowl). That should send all you
NFC woofers running home with your tails between your legs.

>
>-- 
> ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
>everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Only the Buccaneers could manage this.
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:44:18 GMT

In article <Bz3JGq.KIo@fang.att.com> bcd@fang.att.com (Brendan Dwyer) writes:
>From article <1992Dec10.225422.12927@bradley.bradley.edu>, by dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell):
>[.....]
>> So....what do you think the odds are of Boomer being in town next year?
>> More important, will Testeverde be in town next year, and if so, at what
>> salary?  And what about Erickson?
>> 
>I don't know about Boomer but I am willing to bet an appendage that 
>Vinnie is not with the Bucs next year.  With season ticket sales slumping
>and price increases possibly being delayed another year, the Bucs will
>be looking for someone to bring people into the stadium.   Whether he
>has talent or not, he's perceived to be a loser and is not very popular
>(on several occasions I've witnessed the fans boo him worse than the
>opposing team).  I'm sure Leo James will call me a meathead, but I would
>like to see a QB with better leadership qualities to drive off the loser
>attitude this team seems to have.
>
>Brendan Dwyer
>
You've got me all wrong, Brendan!   I'd never call anyone a meathead!  No,
I appreciate the perception that a great, veteran quarterback  (I've begun
to speculate that Joe Montona  could be available next season)  could do a
lot, short term, for this franchise.  But,  just like the Lions' flash-in-
the-pan, one-year, Mike Utley inspired, winning season;  it wouldn't last.
Vinny might not be the answer, I'm just pointing out that to say he is the
only problem is to put your head in the sand.
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|Leopold E. James     | "A heart, a soul, AND | AT&T Paradyne         |
|ph: (813) 530-8425   |  a mind are terrible  | P.O. Box 2826, LG-132,|
|lej@pdn.paradyne.com |  things to waste."    | Largo, FL 34649 (USA) |
From: caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Butler and the Pack
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:10:10 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <c35403hRc2Gn00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
>In article <3539@carroll1.cc.edu> jpwieske@carroll1.cc.edu (JP Wieske) writes:
>>I guess I want to clear up discussion about the LeRoy Butler Incident.
>You gotta be kidding!!! 
>>It is an isolated incident in Butler's career. In his 3 years in the NFL hes
>
>Ahem.. Butler is a rookie! 

	BZZT! Wrong, Butler is in his 3rd year.

	Mark
	GO VIKINGS!
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From: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Reply-To: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 01:43:35 GMT

In article <92347.173856RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>, Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Dude, learn how to @#$%!!! post you idiot!!!!!

Hey, give the guy a break! It's probably not his fault. Much more likely
that the system adminstrator on his system or on his NNTP server has made
a serious mistake.

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From: bz832@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wesley R. Kemmerlin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Tiebreakers
Date: 17 Dec 1992 21:47:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In arcticle about NFL tiebreakers printed in Dallas Morning News:

>AFC Races:
>  If Buffalo ties Pittsburgh or Miami ties Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh would
>   gain homefield advantage based on best Conference record (the
>  best Miami can do is 8-3,

There are several things wrong with this statement:

1. Buffalo gains homefield advantage if they win the AFC East and are
   tied with Pittsburgh since they beat Pittsburgh.

2. The best Conference record Miami can have is 9-3 not 8-3.

3. If Miami wins the AFC east and Pittsburg loses to Cleveland in the
   final week and are tied with Miami, Miami will have homefield
   advantage based upon better record in common games.

WESLEY
-- 
WESLEY
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 17:33:59 GMT
Subject: Re: any Raider fans out there?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

Just a couple words:

o Raider D was great
o Kreig had an off day
o Raiders got KC in a hole early, negating their running threat as they
  were forced to go to the air
o Typical Scud day - nothing special
o Did I mention Raider D?

Al Davis should get Boomer in the off-season.  He isn't washed up, the Bengals
are.  Dump Jay, insert Boomer (southpaw) and look out league!

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From: B Gil
Subject: Re: Where is Little ???
Reply-To: gil@texas
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:56:20 GMT

In article 1gnhd1INNigk@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu, skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>There was a high school QB in Dickinson TX in the late 70's and early
>80's he went to U of TX (I think), his name was Donny Little. 
>If I remember correctly he went to the Pro's, Anyone know where
>he is our what happened to him.
>
>Thanks
>tim

I remember watching a Canadian Football League game about 2 or 3 years ago
and the announcers mentioned how much Team A missed having wide receiver
Donnie Little who was out with a knee injury.  I don't remember the name
of the team he was on.

BTW, he did attend The University of Texas at Austin where he played quarterback.
I'm not sure, but I think he switched to wide receiver for his senior year.

B. Gil


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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Re: Where will Montana go...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:19:59 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
Keywords: A toast to Joe

Please please please .....Let Joe take pity on the Vikes....
Please come to Minnesota......we will treat him like God.

Even if he screws up some games we will not say anything.
Please please Joe come to MN.

S.H
Why do the Vikes have to always make the NFC-Central interesting.
God.... I cannot take this torture anymore....
Please don't let the Vikes break my heart.

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