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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: Igor Boldin's Whereabouts?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:25:28 GMT

In article <1e92tlINNau3@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) writes:
>
>Any of the Blues' followers have any information on the status/whereabouts of
>Igor Boldin?  Any chance he'll be appearing in a Blues' uniform before season's
>end?  Thanks in advance for any info.
>
>Brad
>
    Igor Boldin is still under contract with Spartak Moscow. He will not be
joining the Blues this season.


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From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Why ESPN's Hockey Ratings Are Low
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:30:32 GMT
Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester Hockey Science Dept.


Did anyone et hockey this Friday on ESPN? We had some completely
pointless college basketball blowout instead. Shouldn't those kids be
getting ready for finals? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Our cableco did have the
brains to give us Thorne and McNab (ackphft) doing the Devils-Pens
games Friday (yawn, unfortunately), but it was back to harness racing
Saturday when they (SC) had been advertising the rematch.

George
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down)
Subject: Re: Pens-0 Red Wings-8/Random thoughts
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:36:15 GMT

nagy@pl1.cs.psu.edu (Gregory Nagy) writes:

>Thanks for the lousy followup, Brian... Been looking for a loser to flame
>since I put RAP115 in my kill file...

Awwwwwww!

Greg, I'm sorry you are upset. But with this coming so soon after
people calling the Penguins, "Wrens" and all, I can understand it.

So sorry.

But you really shouldn't be "looking" for people to flame, whether you
perceive them to be "losers" (as in 8-0), or not. It's bad for that
sensitive heart of yours!

Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu)

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From: jwh@sei.cmu.edu (John Huber)
Subject: Re: Team Goalie Stats - 11/15/92
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:53:57 GMT


In article <1324@fozzy.UUCP>, twollnik@aud.alcatel.com writes:
|>I might be out of line here (NOT!)...but the Norris division OWNS the Patrick
|>division...especially the PENS !
|> 
|>Of course, the season is still young, and that may change.  Basically, that means
|>there is still time left for the Lightning (da Bolts !) to beat Pittsburgh 
|>by some obscene amount (5-0).  And of course Kontos will have at least 4 of
|>the goals.                 
|> 
|>But hey, this is just the humble opinion (my 2 cents) of a Misplaced Chicago
|>Blackhawks fan ... stuck in Dallas ... following the Central Hockey League.
|> 

You aren't necessarily "out of line", however, you are quite WRONG (to use
your capitalization preference).  The Norris neither owns the Patrick
division, nor the Pens.  The records between these two divisions (as of 11/15 -
the most recent stats that I have readily available) show that the total
record of Norris division teams v. Patrick division teams is 8-8-2.

Individually, Chicago is 1-2-1, Tampa Bay is 2-1-1, Toronto, Detroit, Minn.
are all 1-1-0 and St. Louis is 2-2-0 (all against the Patrick).  The Pens are
the "owners" of a 4-4-0 record against the Norris, Philly (1-1-1), New Jersy
(1-0-0), NYR (0-1-0), NYI (0-2-0), and Washington (2-0-1; it is funny that
Wash has the best record against the Norris and the worst against the Patrick
at 1-7-0).

Thus, I would say that the two divisions look "even" thus far this year.  Just
like the divisional standings would lead one to believe (i.e. both divisions
have all teams in double digit points and are fairly close races).

-Jay


John W. Huber, Jr. - aka Jay   | Penguins - 1991,1992 Stanley Cup Champions
Software Engineering Institute | Pirates - 1990,1991,1992 NL East Champions
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From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: Re: LIGHTNING NEWS: Winnipeg vs. TB 11/17
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:35:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.043030.1032@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>WIN - 2 3 1 - 6
>TB  - 3 1 1 - 5
>
>1 - TB  Zamuner 5  (Tucker, Hamrlik)     3:57
>    WIN Housley 4  (Zhamnov)             6:14 (pp)
>    TB  Kontos 19  (Bradley, Tucker)     8:18
>    TB  Tucker 3   (Crossman, Bradley)  11:45 (pp)
>    WIN Davydov 8  (Olczyk)             13:35 (pp)
>
>2 - WIN Davydov 9  (Steen, Olausson)     1:33 (pp)
>    TB  Bradley 12 (Crossman, Young!!!)  6:46
>    WIN Housley 5  (Shannon)            11:40
>    WIN Davydov 10 (Borsato, Kerr)      14:58
>
>3 - TB  Hodge 2    (Hartman)             7:31
>    WIN Selanne 15 (Zhamnov, Numminen)  13:34
>
>Shots on goal: WIN 14-11- 8--33
>               TB  12-12-16--40
>Power plays:   WIN 3 of 5
>               TB  1 of 6
>Goalies:       WIN Essensa 5-8-1, 40 shots, 35 saves
>               TB  Young 3-7-0, 33 shots, 27 saves
>Attendance:    8,062
>
>-----

Were you at the game, Tom, or was it televised?  (Are games on another station
besides Sunshine Network?)  I missed listening to the first period, and when
they did the initial summary, I am SURE that Winnipeg's second goal was
originally creditted to Ed Olczyk.  Not that I am complaining, mind you,
as Evgeny (call me Gene) Davydov has been playing much better of late,
and he said that's his first hat trick at any 'major league' level.



>
>
>But it was another, less-heralded rookie, Davydov, who provided the true spark
>for Winnipeg. He scored his first career hat trick and almost single-handedly
>brought the Jets back after they fell behind, 3-1, in the first 12 minutes.

Evgeny and Keith Tkachuk (both still officially rookies) have been lost in
the shuffle, since the attention has been directed at Teemu Selanne, Alexei
Zhamnov, and Sergei Bautin.  (well, the national media could care less about
Bautin, but locally he's being followed.)

They are all good hockey players.  Davydov has continued to impress after his
post-Olympics appearance last year.


>Young made the initial save on Zhamnov's shot, but Selanne was waiting at the
>right post for the rebound and knocked in his 15th goal of the season.
>
>Tampa Bay's Ken Hodge had pulled the Lightning into a 5-5 tie with 12:29 left,
>scoring his first goal since opening night (Oct. 7).

This was the actual revenge for Selanne, since it was he who coughed up the
hockey that Hodge scored on.



Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca -or- daryl.turner@mailbox.bison.mb.ca 
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4  (please route through 348/700)
Tkachuk over to Zhamnov, up to Selanne, he shoots, he scores! 
The Jets win the Cup!  The Jets win the Cup!
Essensa for Vezina!  Housley for Norris!  Selanne for Calder!
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From: hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Brad Jones, Philadelphia Flyers, to Ilves?
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:47:15 GMT

In article <BxtGEM.DF6@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) writes:
> In article <1992Nov15.221244.10843@news.yale.edu> () writes:
>>In article <1992Nov14.184213.1840@tac.fi>, tiok_jtk@tac.fi wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> Is there anybody who could give some infromation about a guy called
>>> Brad Jones. All I know about him is he played last year in Philadelphia
>>> Flyers...Now he's coming to Ilves, Tampere (Finland).
>>> 
>>Brad Jones played one season with the Philadelphia Flyers before being cut
>>this summer.  Jones, a winger, was known mostly for his excellent speed and
>>not much else.  He is Michigan's all-time career points leader (or in the
>>top 5 or something) and excelled as a member of the U.S. National Team...
>>he played for a few years in the Kings organization but never demonstrated
>>the abilitly to produce at the NHL level.
> 
> Brad Jones was originally a member of the Winnipeg Jets, and was pretty much
> the same disappointment he was in LA.  Showed signs of being able to play
> with a great deal of skill, but very little was ever shown for his work.
> If memory serves, the Jets traded him to LA for Phil Sykes.

  Brad Jones had a fine start for Ilves! He scored 2 goals when Ilves
  destroyed Reipas from Lahti! The big numbers were 8:3. Jones has still
  five more games to show his ability, but the start was really promising...

> 
> Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 
> Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca -or- daryl.turner@mailbox.bison.mb.ca 
> FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4  (please route through 348/700)
> Tkachuk over to Zhamnov, up to Selanne, he shoots, he scores! 
> The Jets win the Cup!  The Jets win the Cup!
> Essensa for Vezina!  Housley for Norris!  Selanne for Calder!

// hannu

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From: paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (Nick)
Subject: Re: 1st draft pick of 1993?
Organization: Ascot Boyz - ANS Reader - BB #1
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:43:15 GMT

kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden) a ecrit:

>
>	Regardless of why Lindros actually did not what to play in Quebec, he
>took a pay cut to play elsewhere.  Sure, he is still making 3 million this
>year, and this doesn't seem to be a real loss to him but it is a pretty
>big pay cut over what Quebec was offering considering that 1 million of
>that is due to a signing bonus that more or less equals what baseball
>and basketball 1st picks get.  

Yeah! but Lindros didn't want to play in Philadelphia because
Philadelphia is like a small town near New York so you don't make
millions there... Cunnigham (sp?) would be a national star if he would
play for the giants but since he's playing fro the Eagles...

And Lindros didn't had the choice to sign with Philadelphia because
Quebec bashing is OK but if you attack the one that are going to make
you rich (Americans) well it's stupid!

I guess that'a what Bonnie told him...




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						Nick
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     pas debout... qu'elle ne peut courir !    
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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: FLYERS notes 11/16
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:55:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.053838.8501@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:
>
>No question that he could be a top 10 type scorer some day. But Teemu Selanne
>is no Eric Lindros. Barring injury, the vote won't be close. Trust me.
>
>pete clark - rsh FLYERS contact

    I don't think Teemu Selanne is a threat to Lindros for the Calder.
If Felix Potvin continues his amazing play, lookout Lindros, Felix "The Cat"
might pull an upset.


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From: f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{)
Subject: European Cup
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:14:31 GMT

European Cup semi-finals were played last weekend. I haven't seen 
the results yet in this newsgroup, so I post something about them.

The following teams qualified for the finals:

 Mediolanum Milan (Italy)
 Malmo (Sweden)
 Dusseldorf EG (Germany)
 Obswiecim (Poland) spelling??
 Dynamo Moscow (Russia)
 SC Bern (Switzerland)
 Jokerit (Finland)
 Rouen (France)

Rouen, Dynamo and Mediolanum won their respective groups. There were
a few surprises too. Malmo struggled against the Polish side and only
managed to beat them 6-5. Later Malmo lost to Rouen in a meaningless game.

Jokerit played very badly all three games. They struggled to beat Villach
from Austria and lost both against SC Bern (0-1) and Dynamo Moscow (4-7).
The defeats were grim indeed, especially since the games were played in
Helsinki and Jokerit was lucky to get to the finals. They beat 
the Czech side Dukla Trencin only by the goal difference.

While watching Jokerit vs. SC Bern game on tv, I understood why North
Americans think that there is more stickwork in Europe than in NHL.
Referee Igor Lipa was totally unable to control the 'innovative' use
of sticks by SC Bern. The referees in Finnish SM-liiga are a lot more
strict in this matter, perhaps too strict, if we think of the fact
that Team Finland probably has to face hard-hitting German team or
Switzerland in the World Championships. 

Renato Tosio, the goalie of SC Bern, put up a magnificent performance.
I suspect he's currently one of the best goalies in Europe, if not the best.
Because of him Jokerit failed to utilize the numerous scoring chances 
especially in the first period. SC Bern also featured Reijo Ruotsalainen 
(formerly NY Rangers and Edmonton).

IMHO, Igor Lipa should not be given any international jobs any more.
He failed miserably in Dynamo vs. Jokerit game too and he has never
shown too much consistency in international tournaments.

Janne Kivela"

      "N{m{kin pusakat vain viisysiysi. Ja kaikista valtakunnan..."
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From: psproxto@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Sproxton)
Subject: Re: Pavel's going for 50 in 50!!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:55:30 GMT

In article <chrism.722413745@sfu.ca>, chrism@fraser.sfu.ca (Chris J. McKee) writes:
> With tonight's 9-0 thumping of LA, Mr. Bure now has 22 goals in 21 games!
> 
> Hope he can keep it up!!!!!!!!!!
> 
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You should get your teams right.  The Leafs played the Kings on Saturday.  The Canucks pasted the Oilers not LA.
-- 
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Leafs to the cup in '93!!!!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:29:57 EST
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Any Penguins fans going to game on Wednesday?

In article <9982@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald)
says:
>If it bothers you that much, you should have gone to Pitt instead of PSU.
  It would've really bothered me a lot more being on the short side of
Penn State 57, Pitt 13.  I've been a Penn State fan all my life.  I could never
go to Pitt!  Besides, people like to kill the PSU and CMU nets anyways - I
like to be the enemy of millions of people. :-)
** Rob **
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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio;6442;3.55;)
Subject: Messier a tough guy-- no way! (was: Re: FLYERS VS. RANGERS)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:45:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.024606.2920@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:

>Because Messier is one tough SOB. He doesn't fight much anymore, but those of
>us who remember him playing for Edmonton in the early-to-mid 80's remember him
>as one mean m.f. His reputation precedes him. He was so bad, he was permanently
>banned from playing major junior hockey when he was only 17. You can cheap shot
>anybody you want if you're willing to back it up afterwards. Messier is.

He might have been a tough-guy in Edmonton, but he is a p*ssy in New
York.  He can dish out the cheap stuff, but when someone tries to check
him, even if it's a clean hit, bonehead Adam (put me in my) Graves
takes exception of it.  It's no different than the Wayne Gretzky/Marty
McSuckbag combo in Los Angeles (bad backs et. al.)...

-JPC

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From: rkd@usday32.Dayton.NCR.COM (Ron Dabrowski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pittsburgh is ahead of Buffalo
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:26:51 GMT
Reply-To: rkd@usday32.UUCP (Ron Dabrowski)
Organization: Dayton Unix Tower Support Center

In article <92319.192051RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>To all you wise ass Buffalo fans, swallow this!  If the playoffs were to start
>right now at this moment as I write this, here's how the standings would go.
>No. 1 Miami   No. 2 Denver   No. 3 Pittsburgh  No. 4 Buffalo
>No. 5 Kansas City   No. 6 Houston

[stuff deleted]

I thought the NHL playoffs were still months away. And, since when do Miami,
Denver, Kansas City, and Houston have NHL teams??

Why don't you check the name of the newsgroup before you post next time?

>** Rob **
Ron

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From: wonge@fraser.sfu.ca (Edmund Wong)
Subject: Re: rookie
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:39:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.021705.2917@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>In article <ewXiuB2w165w@pinetree.org>, montana@pinetree.org (David Wong) writes:
>> All the Top rookies from last year seems to be suffering from sophomore 
>> jinx,  Bure has cool down a lot, Amonte and Todd are almost 
>
>Bure cooled down a lot? 24 points in 17 games is damn good enough for me. 
>
>								Alan 
    Damn right you are... Bure...cooled down...  HA....  Amonte's cooled down.
Lidstrom's COOLED down..(actually.. am I supposed to EXPECT Lidstrom-being a
Defenseman- score????).  Of the three players going for last season's Calder
trophy, Bure has been the MOST consistent!!  Though, I must admit, his plays
aren't as wicked as they used to be.. maybe it's just that I"m used to his
methods of plays..but still.. when he's on a rush towards the opponent's line,
I always get the thrill...

   "Maciver has the puck.. he passes to Dave Manson at the left wing, BUT 
BURE intercepts the pass... he's on a 2-1 with Greg Adams...  Bure..over
the blue line... he passes to Adams... Adams.. over to the left point,
he fakes a shot..passes to Bure..he shoots......SCORES!!!  The puck trickles
through Ranford's pads and into the goal.......

    His 23rd of the season, scored by Number 10, PAVEL..BURE!!!.. Assist to
number 8, GREG ADAMS!!!!...<trumpet blasts>... time..10:20..."


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From: p7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Anthony Jang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Why it's great in Vancouver (was Why ESPN's Hockey Ratings Are Low)
Date: 22 Nov 1992 15:48:19 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: keats.rick.cs.ubc.ca

It's great living in Vancouver because:
 1) durring the last two weeks there have been 4 games televised per week.
 2) Canuck coverage is excellent with about 25 games televised this season.
 3) Sports news usually deals with hockey first, for example, a Canuck
    regular season game is covered before a non-Jay baseball playoffs
 4) radio coverage and local televised games are done by the great
    Hall of Fame inductee Jim Robinson
 5) Pavel Bure plays for the Canucks

Just my thoughts,
Tony
 
PS Last April/May when I was on vacation the only hockey playoff
coverage was on CNN - 5 mins worth, right at the end. I couldn't wait to
leave Cancun :-)
From: derrick@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Edward G. Derrick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Texas Hockey Newsletter
Keywords: shameless commercial annoucement
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:38:13 GMT

To Those Who Can't Get Enough:

there is a monthly newsletter called Texas Hockey published by 
Collins Cab Press in Austin, Texas.  The single copy price is $1.50, 
a 12 issue subscription $15.00.  It deals with the Austin ice hockey
league, the CHL, the NHL, and whatever else Chris (the editor)
feels like covering.  Write to Texas Hockey, 920B East 50th Street,
Austin, TX 78751.  

ed 
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From: 001186c@ace.acadiau.ca (SANDY LEIGH CHANDLER)
Subject: schedule?
Keywords: any body have one?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:04:57 GMT

I was hoping that someone would be nice enough to either post or mail me a 
copy of the remaining schedule of NHL games. It would be greatly 
appreciated!! 
**Sandy