From: oueichek@ngulu.imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Islamic Fundamentalism in Egypt Targets Christians as it Did Jews
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:27:01 GMT
Reply-To: oueichek@ngulu.imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France




In article <3744@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
|> Jake writes:
|> >In article <1992Aug30.015355.8853@dscomsf.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
|> >>
|> >>I have as little time for Jake's hate posts against arabs as I have for
|> >>those of Mutlu or ARF.
|> >
|> >Seeing as I posted the article ENTIRELY from the New York Times, that
|> >bastion of racism and hatred against Arabs, perhaps you should address
|> >your comaprisons and concerns to them.  I would be pleased to get you
|> >their address.
|> 
|> You are sooooo funny, Jake.  Remember that piece of pure propoganda garbage
|> that you posted last year from the N.Y.T. pertaining to the Gulf War and the
|> so-called views of the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan, Egypt, and Syria (et al),
|> whom were supposedly in favor of and supported the invasion?
|> 
|> You are so two faced concerning your position on Arabs - you completely deny
|> the injustices towards Palestinians in Israel while supporting the government
|> of Kuwait and inquire when their relationship will strengthen with Israel.

  Well, i think i have a couple of words to say here.
  First, our dear friend Jake has only one obsession in mind : Israel and 
its security. Let those "Palestinians" and "Arabs" starve, qu'ils crevent jusqu'au
dernier. Israel has to survive, even if the price is the opression and denial of
the rights of millions of Palestinians. His use of the article is an act of propaganda,
and i really doubt he has ANY sympathy towards the victims of this fanatism.

  Now, it's misfortunate that Anisa and several other Muslims' choice was focused on
attacking Jake and they forgot completely the subject of the article. The article spoke 
about actions of terrorism committed by several "Fundamentalists" (well, THEY call 
themselves so, and i really wish other Fundamentalists have the honesty to denounce
these acts because they pollute the image of Islam) against Copts in Egypt. I wish it
was wrong, but i've read a similar article in the French journal Le monde, and it gave
even offical Egyptian confirmation of the events (unfortunately, it was a month ago,
and i don't have the issue anymore). If you wish more evidences : Hussein Badre (an
Egyptian) has already stated that these events aren't recent, and that Islamic groups 
in Egypt used to target Copts as if they were their ennemies (again, please let alone
if this is the "true teaching of Islam" or not, we are discussing if it's a FACT or not,
and it seems to be).
   
|> 
|> You never cease to amaze me Jake.  And the N.Y.T. seems to coincide with
|> your own personal views - biased and racist.
  Well, reminds me of what my father used to tell me : "there are plenty of facts in the
world, but most of them are used to serve obscure goals. So don't say something is wrong
or right before you listen, look and verify".
  Jake has proven to be biased and racist, but don't accuse the N.Y.T of "being biased
and racist" just because they have been quoted by such a person.



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