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From: steve@cs.hw.ac.uk (Steve Salvini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey,uk.misc
Subject: uk-hockey ice hockey mailing list
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:30:42 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland


Suffering post-Wembley blues?    Wondering how to cope with the traumas
of free time, light nights and not hanging around dark, dingy, dank ice
rinks?  Why not join...


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This is an open invitation to followers of hockey in the UK to join a
mailing list dedicated to the discussion of (ice!) hockey in Britain.

The mailing list has been going for well over a year now and is growing
steadily - please mail to the address below for further details and/or
to be included.  At present we are mailing out news, gossip, league
tables, match reports and results on a fairly regular basis - but
anything goes, well, if we can allow Roger "Sumo" Hunt fans on the
list, we can allow almost anything! :-)

So far we have supporters of Murrayfield, Fife, Bracknell, Humberside,
Lee Valley, Milton Keynes, Wasps, Devils, Warriors, Bristol, Gosport,
etc., etc.  plus a referee and players from Murrayfield Royals, Whitley
Bandits and Milton Keynes Royals.  Come on, add some support for you
team - does no-one in Nottingham or Peterborough or Sheffield, to name
but three, have net access!?!??


For more info, mail ->

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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: Sergei Makarov signed to offer sheet
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:17:16 GMT

The Sharks announced Monday that they have signed right winger Sergei Makarov,
34, who spent the last three years with the Calgary Flames, to an offer sheet.
Makarov averaged 25 goals and 53 assists with Calgary for those years.

Director of player personnel Chuck Grillo said that Calgary had offered
Makarov a 15% raise, but declined to disclose what the Sharks had offered
Makarov, only saying, "It's safe to say they're going to have to ante up."

Makarov had displayed interest, according to Grillo, in the Sharks to "have
an opportunity to work with young kids," and so the Sharks think that he can
help them.  Makarov, since he is over 30, is a Group III free agent, and thus
can be signed without compensation.

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From: mfc@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Mark Castagna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: More about black jerseys
Keywords: illusion of size
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:23:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T

More about black jerseys. I seem to remember many years ago a discussion
about black jerseys. I don't remember the spo but, for some reason I
think it was football, Raiders to be exact (sort of). The discussion had
to do with the illusion of size. That the players would loobigger and
therefore more intimidating.


						Mark Castagna
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:17:15 -0400 
From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Baldwin on rule committee


Since it wasn't mentioned here yesterday, Tuesday's Greensburg (PA) Tribune-
Review reported that Penguins owner Howard Baldwin is one of nine members of
the rule committee to study and recommend rule changes for the 92-93 season.
Since I don't have yesterday's paper with me now, I can't report who the
eight members were, but I remember that McNall and Sather were also on it.

Baldwin's presence on the committee may have some sort of impact regarding
the Penguins proposed rule changes that I posted here last month.

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From: hp@mdavcr.mda.ca (Hossein Parandeh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Igor Larionov has signed with a Swiss team
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:01:10 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

Igor Larionov, the nifty Russian centre who played for the Vancouver Canucks
the last three seasons and centred Pavel Bure last season, has signed a three
year contract with a Swiss club. Pat Quinn, Canucks' G.M., President and coach
said he could not match the money the Swiss offered Igor. He added that he will
look for a trade to bring in a replacement centreman.

   Good luck Pat
From: darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: TEAMS TO WATCH
Date: 20 Jul 92 19:08:51 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:

> yes, but at least two of those three reasons (hartford,quebec,buffalo)
> will be contending for the division title next year.

<Snicker>  Two of those three are the reason the Ottawa Senators stand a
good chance of making the playoffs in their first season.  (Trivia: What was
the last team to do that?)
 
> dont count out buffalo...  buffalo was tough this year with Lafontaine
> in the lineup

I'll grant you that.  Expect them to do better than the Bruins this year,
anyway.  That is, if their backup goaltender keeps his head up during
faceoffs.

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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: fighting in hockey (or any sport)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:33:37 GMT

Suppose you were watching hockey on TV. Suddenly a fight breaks out and the
TV crew decides to go to commercial. Would you think/say: "I can't believe
they went to a commercial now!"?

MOST people may be against fighting, but when it happens they want to see
it happen. When no once gets hurt, it is no big deal.

Has Gretzky ever fought? I don't see anyone making him fight. What's the
problem? Has Gretzky ever been slashed, crosschecked, etc. There's the
problem. Too many people think hockey will become popular (in the US) if
fighting is more severely penalized. NOT! 

There is no fighting in the indoor soccer league I play in. If I want to get
a guy back, I'll trip in into the boards (I've never done this by the way).
I'll sit for 2 minutes while he bandages his head wound. A similar thing can
happen in hockey.

The league has removed the situations where good players can get hurt:
bench clearing brawls (aaah, the good old days), third man in, second fight
to start during a stoppage in play. If Gretzky chooses to fight and gets hurt
then he's an idiot. Notice that he never has.

Tom

P.S. Speaking of the good old days, and I don't remember them very well since
I was a little kid then, but I vaguely remember a good brawl. It was the
typical end of the period free-for-all. When the next period started, everyone
was in the box except the skaters that were originally on the ice when the
period ended. That was a site! The older I get, the less likely I think that
it really could have happened that way.
From: cooper@seismo.CSS.GOV (Dale Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: WASHINGTON CAPITALS 1992-1993 SCHEDULE
Keywords: Dale Hunter
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:16:41 GMT


Washington Capitals' 
1992-1993 Schedule

- all game times EST
- two games sites TBD

	October

 7	at Toronto	 7:35
 9	NYR		 8:05
10	Philadelphia	 7:35
12	at New Jersey	 7:35
16	Ottowa		 8:05
17	Buffalo		 7:35
21	at NYR		 7:35
23	NYI		 8:05
26	at Winnipeg	 8:35
28	at Vancouver	10:35
30	at Calgary	 9:35
31	at Edmonton	 8:05


	November

 6	Tampa Bay	 8:05
 7	at Hartford	 7:35
11	at NYR		 7:35
13	at New Jersey	 7:35
14	New Jersey	 7:35
18	Minnesota	 7:35
20	Detroit		 8:05
22	at Quebec	 2:05
23	at Montreal	 7:35
25	Boston		 8:05
27	Pittsburgh	 8:05
28	at Pittsburgh	 7:35
30	at Detroit	 7:35


	December

 4	NYR		 8:05
 5	at NYI		 7:35
 7	at Ottowa	 7:35
 9	at New Jersey	 7:35
11	Winnipeg	 8:05
12	at Philadelphia	 7:35
16	at Hartford	 7:35
18	Hartford	 8:05
19	at Boston	 7:05
21	at Ottowa	 7:35
23	at Buffalo	 7:35
26	Philadelphia	 7:35
29	NYR		 7:35


	January

 1	New Jersey	 1:35
 2	Chicago		 1:35
 7	at Philadelphia	 7:35
 9	Edmonton	 7:35
13	at NYR		 7:35
14	at NYI		 7:35
17	at Tampa Bay	 7:35
21	at Chicago	 7:35
23	Ottowa		 7:35
26	at Pittsburgh	 7:35
27	at Buffalo	 7:35
29	Quebec	 	 8:05
31	Pittsburgh	12:05


	February

 2	Calgary		 7:35
 9	at Minnesota	 8:05
11	at St. Loius	 8:35
13	at Los Angeles	10:35
16	at San Jose	10:35
20	Los Angeles	 1:35
21	St. Loius	 1:35
23	at NYI		 7:35
27	at Boston	 1:35
28	Pittsburgh	 1:35


	March

 2	Vancouver	 7:35
 5	Philadelphia	 8:05
 7	NYI		 1:35
 9	Toronto		 7:35
11	at Philadelphia	 7:35
13	NYR		 7:35
14	at NYI		 7:35
19	Hartford	 8:05
21	San Jose	 1:35
23	Quebec		 7:35
25	at Pittsburgh	 7:35
27	New Jersey	 1:35
28	Pittsburgh	 1:35
30	Buffalo		 7:35


	April

 2	Montreal	 8:05
 4	NYR		 1:35
 6	NYI		 7:35
 8	at Philadelphia	 7:35
10	New Jersey	 7:35
12	at Montreal	 7:35
14	at NYR		 7:35


Dale Cooper				"Dale Hunter is God...
Center for Seismic Studs		 ...but you knew that already"
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From: laura@pixar.com (It's Howe, Not How Many)
Subject: Re: Quebec/Philidelphia Trade COMPLETE!
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:29:45 GMT

In article <0ksBoB2w164w@eastern.COM> leea@eastern.COM (Lee S. Armet) writes:

>Quebec's forward regiment now looks like this:
>V. Kamensky          J.Sakic        O.Nolan
>C. Simon             M.Ricci        M.Sundin
>M. Rucinsky          T.Warriner     S.Young
*(>P. Cavalini)*          P.Forsberg     G.Pasklawski
>M. Hough             C.Lapointe     M.McNeil
> 
>Not TOO bad, eh? 
>
>Talk to you later....
>Lee S. Armet

Actually, I could be mistaken but I'm pretty that it's G. Cavallini that is
now with Quebec. Brother Paul is still with St. Louis. 


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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Pens news 7/28
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:37:33 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Keywords: Lemieux renegotiates, Bowman stalls again

Bits and pieces gathered from the worlds of print and electronic media...

Mario Lemieux and the Pens have begun renegotiating Mario's contract, in the
attempt to make him (in the words of Howard Baldwin) a "Penguin for life".
If you remember, Baldwin approached Lemieux and his agent last season and
offered to renegotiate Lemieux's contract.  (In light of the Lindros signing,
which made him a higher paid player than Lemieux, I can't wait to hear what
Lemieux is going to ask for.)

Scotty Bowman seems to be playing "puck tease" with Craig Patrick over the
coaching position.  Scotty said yesterday that he's "Almost positive" he'll
be returning to his old job of Director of Player Development."  But he also
said that he might consider returning to coach the Pens "although the salary
is far below that of other NHL coaches."  Which probably means Scotty would
return if the price is right.  But so far, it seems that Craig hasn't offered
that price.  (I can see both their sides on this.  Patrick, under different
circumstances would probably offer him the money.  But with Barrasso, Jagr,
Lemieux, Mullen, Stanton and Bourque in various stages in contract talks his
hands are tied right now.  And I'm sure what Bowman decides will influence the
fate of Bryan Trottier, a possible heir-apparent to the coaching job.)

Lori
Contact for the Penguins
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From: matthew@wavefront.wti.com (Matthew Coohill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Lindros, etc., are we there yet?
Date: 20 Jul 92 14:46:04 GMT
Organization: Wavefront Technologies Inc, Santa Barbara, CA
X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc.


	Gerald Olchowy brings complains that (and I quote)...

		"Lemieux dives and fakes and whines"

	BTW, that's exactly what Eric Lindros and team Canada PRACTICED
  for a full day right before the Olympics.  They thought that it was
  important to get the refs to notice things that they'd miss normally
  AND that if someone had their stick up into your groin... you might as
  well fall onto the ice and send them to the penalty box.  It seemed to
  work for them.

	I know that this may be asking to much... but can we get off this
  "whining" spree about certain players.  Can someone generate a r.s.h.flame
  group so that all the "star" players' fans and enemies can get together
  and talk about breaking things and whimps plus throw in how Hartford sucks
  because it's at this Longitude and this Latitude (just an example, no flames)
  or how the Champions from ____ year were really a bunch of lucky losers?

	I say we generate a +/- "thingy" regarding this recent Lindros issue.
  It'll work like this... for each letter praising him he will recieve a plus.
  For each, letter against him, he will recieve a minus.  At the end of the
  year we can tabulate his +/- rating and then physically harm the side who
  lost.  That should work, eh? :-)

  matt
  "Bite me!" - Crow T. Robot, MST3k
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From: dwarf@bcarh601.bnr.ca (W. Jim Jordan)
Subject: Re: TEAMS TO WATCH
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:31:54 GMT

In article <gP68NB4w164w@cellar.org> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:
>
>> yes, but at least two of those three reasons (hartford,quebec,buffalo)
>> will be contending for the division title next year.
>
><Snicker>  Two of those three are the reason the Ottawa Senators stand a
>good chance of making the playoffs in their first season.  (Trivia: What was
>the last team to do that?)

Edmonton made it to the playoffs in 1979-80, but I would hardly call
that their first season, given their existence in the WHA.  Calgary made
it in 1980-81, but they had just moved from Atlanta.  San Jose we
already know about.  Kansas City (New Jersey) and Washington were
abysmal their first season; Atlanta advanced in their second season
while the Islanders wallowed; Buffalo and Vancouver missed in their
first go-round, too.  That leaves the first expansion, where they
guaranteed four of the six new teams playoff spots.  I think the four
teams were St. Louis, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Minnesota.

Good question!

--
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Bell-Northern Research             
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: SHARKS NEWS: Sergei Makarov signed to offer sheet
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:49:55 GMT

kjgriffi@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kevin John Griffith) writes:
>claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>The Sharks announced Monday that they have signed right winger 
>>Sergei Makarov, 34, who spent the last three years with the 
>>Calgary Flames, to an offer sheet.
>
>Don't expect to see Makarov in a Sharks uniform next season.

Rumours we heard around here last season (or through Bob Mackenzie
of TSN) were that Makarov was offered to the Leafs along with half
his salary covered, but the Leafs refused because he was known as
a malcontent (or, maybe Doug Gilmour gave a bad reference ...). I'd
say chances might be good that Sergei could end up in the Bay Area.

gld
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From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Subject: FLYERS notes: Lindros trade complete
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:57:51 GMT


For those who didn't notice the little sports digest blurb in their
newspaper, arbitrator Larry Bertuzzi has awarded the FLYERS 1994
first round draft pick (hopefully a very late one :-):-):-) ) and
the rights to junior league left winger Chris Simon to Quebec to
complete the trade for Eric Lindros. I didn't think that the FLYERS
1993 pick would be part of the deal since next years draft is much
deeper one than this year, and would probably not be equivilant to
the FLYERS 1992 pick, even as early as the pick was.

pete clark - r.s.h FLYERS contact
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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Penguin logo
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:38:23 GMT

> The Pens' July newsletter arrived and it's actually a substantial issue
> this time.  In glancing at it last night, I saw for the first time
> players in the "new logo" jerseys.  (I forgot to bring the newsletter
> to work this morning, but I think these were three draft picks in the
> photo.)  Anyway, the logo looks much better on an envelope than it does
> on a jersey.  The player in the middle was wearing a road jersey, and
> as I predicted, his jersey says "ITTSBURG."  Maybe they could change
> that to "IT'S A BURGH THING" (yet another stupid motto from the Iron
> City Brewing Company).

Iron City would look even stupider if their motto was "IT'S A PITTS
THING".  Or worse, "IT'S THE PITTS", which is actually very
descriptive of their product, IMHO.

I think everybody should take the new road jerseys at their word and
start referring to Mario & Co. as the "ittsburg enguin".  If the
papers started doing it, Baldwin might even notice.
	-Steve
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From: mckenzie@k2trc.enet.dec.com (James R. McKenzie)
Subject: Black road jerseys (was Re: Flyers jersey?)
Reply-To: mckenzie@k2trc.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Littleton, Massachusetts
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:49:44 GMT


seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:

>This seems to be the new trend in the NHL, going to black.  I guess we can
>blame those fashion-plate Kings (and, subsequently, the Stars)

... who both followed the Penguins change to black, who took the cue from
    the Bruins.
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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: Dark jerseys cause more penalties (was
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:32:21 GMT

In article Moo@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu, grbratty@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Glen Bratty) writes:
>Teams seem to believe in this in many sports.  I think that's how the
>home teams pick which jersey's to wear to give them an advantage.  For 
>example in Baseball the home team wears their white 'good guys' uniform
>while the opposition wears their dark 'bad guys' uniform.  In football
>the home team wears their dark 'tough guys' while the visitors are stuck
>with the white 'whimpy' uniforms.  
>

Then there are the White Sox, who wear that special black and silver jersey
on Sundays and to kill losing streaks, home or road.

Back to hockey...

--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com)
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Black road jerseys (was Re: Flyers jersey?)
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:57:05 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Jul28.232425.17797@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>
>It's not for the inner-city kids.  Rather, it's the white kids who live
>in the Burbs and try to be like innercity kids.  Trust me, not in the
>suburb I live in (It's 50% black), but in a lot of the all white suburbs
>around here white kids love rap and wear their Kings and White Sox
>stuff.
>
>-- 
>Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
>Pro-Choice/Pro-Clinton/Gore '92

But in Buffalo you might want to keep your distance from kids wearing
Raiders and Sox merchandise.  They aren't worn by the worst gang (the
name of that one escapes me at the moment and it's not at all
sports-related), but they're pretty rough, going so far as to attack
people downtown at a New Year's Eve Night Out event last year.
Somehow I can't picture them running around with a Penguin, though,
so it can't always hold true.

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These accounts expire August 24th 1992, or thereabouts.
From: barajas@Teradyne.COM (Albert Barajas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Last seasons NHL rosters and Stats
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:20:06 GMT


Does anyone have last seasons NHL rosters and stats? If so,
could you please email them to me.

Thanks in advance,

Albert
barajas@teradyne.com
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From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Subject: Re: Black road jerseys (was Re: Flyers jersey?)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:24:25 GMT


In a previous article, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) says:

>
>
>
> Why don't we just make it a rule that all NHL teams must have black in
>their color scheme so that they can market STARTER caps to gang-bangers?
>The idea that teams are changing their colors in a direct effort to market
>a few products to inner-city youth seems sort of sick to me.....

It's not for the inner-city kids.  Rather, it's the white kids who live
in the Burbs and try to be like innercity kids.  Trust me, not in the
suburb I live in (It's 50% black), but in a lot of the all white suburbs
around here white kids love rap and wear their Kings and White Sox
stuff.
>
>
>				gln
>
>

-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
Pro-Choice/Pro-Clinton/Gore '92
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Black road jerseys (was Re: Flyers jersey?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:52:03 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson




 Why don't we just make it a rule that all NHL teams must have black in
their color scheme so that they can market STARTER caps to gang-bangers?
The idea that teams are changing their colors in a direct effort to market
a few products to inner-city youth seems sort of sick to me.....


				gln