From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:22:27 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <16876EDDC.UCPL085@UNLVM.UNL.EDU> UCPL085@UNLVM.UNL.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.190737.25340@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
>kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
> 
>>
>>
>>What the hell? Did "Saint Bobby" suddenly find out he is a distant relative
>>of Lou Holtz? I mean, come on! A field goal?! With our kickers?! What gives
>>with this nonsense? The clock was stopped with eight ticks to go. Anyone
>>with at least one brain cell would call a play and try for the win. But noooo.
>>Not Bobby. What a dork. Hell, even a good old fashioned "hail mary" pass would
>>have been better than that sorry excuse of a call. What a waste. Poor Vanover,
>>he choose FSU cause he wanted to be on the team that wins the first national
>>championship at FSU. Well, I feel sorry for him...'cause with Bowden at the
>>helm FSU will _NEVER_ win ans NC. Bowden has got to be the limpest dick of all
>>coaches in division 1A football.
>>
>>
>>--- end ranting ---
>>
>>
>Did you forget about Tom Osborne??? We would gladly trade Tom for Bobby..

I can't believe I'm allowing myself to be drawn into this but..... Bobby Bowden
is a great coach. Period. Tom Osborne is a great coach. Period. Now just 
because a guy hasn't won an MNC does not make him a limp dick. Remember that 
if Osborne had been a limp enough dick to go for the tie against Miami in 
the '84 Orange Bowl he would have had his MNC, however tainted. I give him 
HUGE marks for going for the win there! I also give him high marks for running
a consistent top 20 program for the past 20 years. Top five for many of those 
years. Sure he had a longtime nemesis named Switzer who would take him out of 
the MNC picture 7 out of 10 times they met and Bowden has the same problem 
with Miami. Shit, there is a short list of teams who have beaten Miami over 
the past five years. To call a guy lame because he's only on that list once 
in five years is unfair. After all, is there anybody on that list more than 
once? I doubt it! Osborne has pretty much begun to slide because the Miami's
and Washington's and FSU's and Notre Dame with Lou Holtz can now out-recruit
him for "the horses." Who the fuck wants to spend winters in Lincoln if they 
can help it? I mean, if I'm going to freeze my ass off I may as well go to 
Notre Dame and compete for the MNC on an annual basis as long as I have a 
winning record. Otherwise, places like Miami, Tallahassee, Seattle are just 
more attractive places to hang out. Penn State has Paterno, whom I hate but 
recognize as a great coach and most kids will consider playing for him just 
because!   Realistically speaking, your MNC contenders for the foreseeable 
future will always include, FSU, Miami, ND as long as Holtz is there, Penn
State as long as Paterno is around and Washington until the California talent 
starts staying home. After all, the Colorado program has dropped off a bit 
since the California talent started liking Seattle better than Boulder. The 
Texas schools, other than A&M, don't seem to have a clue as to how to run a
successful BigTime football program in the modern era. Ditto for the Big Ten 
Schools. Michigan has yet to step up to elite class football despite its 
tradition and Ohio State hasn't been back to the top in a long time.  There's
an occasional Clemson, Georgia or Alabama who will have the chips fall their `
way and get into the MNC hunt ... you know a Herschel Walker or some other 
superstud can take a college team a long way.  USC and UCLA don't have the 
gerat recruiting pull they once had and can't boast the great coaching they 
once enjoyed. Not that the programs are weak this year but they don't have no 
legends stalking the sidelines for them anymore. That's howcome so many great 
Cali footballers go play for Don James, and used to go play for Colorado and 
McCartney before that. Not that McCartney ranks with James as a legend but he 
put together one hell of a program when he was there!   College football, 
because the teams rollover every four years has to be about recruiting. If you 
gets the horses, you wins! Coaches do not play a down! Never forget that! 



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Ronnie
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I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....