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From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Why no source control in Borland
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:53:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Sep10.145715.6885@scott.skidmore.edu> pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.052148.10777@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>>It strikes me as starnge that given the current size of the Borland C++ 3.1
>>compiler package, that there is no source control system.
>>
>
>Borland recently bought out Brief (a well known editor).  If they also
>bought the rest of Solution Systems' products, that would include a
>source control system (Sorcerer's Apprentice?).  Perhaps we can look
>forwared to better editors and a scs in their future programming
>environments of Pascal and C++.

I just talked to Borland reps at a computer show, and they said Brief for
Windows and Sourcerors Apprentice for Windows will be coming in about 1/2 year
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rrwood@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (R. Wood)
Subject: Parallel Port DAC interfacing hints?
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:10:59 GMT

Apparently my last posting was eaten, so I'll try again.  I apologize if I'm
duplicating the posting though...

I'm stuck with a bunch of third-rate sound cards that I absolutely have to
write some software for (I know I should just use SoundBlasters, but...).
These things are manufactered by Commodore (I think) and are called "CBM
Voice Cards" (they're used in the CBM clones we've got).  The cards come with
a little bit of software that demonstrates they actually can be used as a
voice synthesizer, or a reasonable audio card for replaying digitized sound.
However, they have minimal docs beyond "The CMB Voice Card is compatible with
the Covox Speech Thing and the Parallel Port DAC."

So, does anyone have any info or know where I can get info regarding software
interfaces for the "Covox Speech Thing" or a "Parallel Port DAC?"  I would 
appreciate almost any help at this point....

-Roy Wood
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: Why no source control in Borland
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:57:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.052148.10777@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>It strikes me as starnge that given the current size of the Borland C++ 3.1
>compiler package, that there is no source control system.
>

Borland recently bought out Brief (a well known editor).  If they also
bought the rest of Solution Systems' products, that would include a
source control system (Sorcerer's Apprentice?).  Perhaps we can look
forwared to better editors and a scs in their future programming
environments of Pascal and C++.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
Subject: Re: Why no source control in Borland
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:01:58 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In <1601@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> hartung@crl.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung) writes:

> In article <1992Sep10.052148.10777@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
> >It strikes me as starnge that given the current size of the Borland C++ 3.1
> >compiler package, that there is no source control system.
> >
> >Currently, the full package has every conceivable feature you could want
> >except source control and OS/2 support [oops, wrong winge]. The only

> And 32-bit code generation, and a DOS extender (32-bit would be nice, 16-bit
> would be OK, the Phar Lap "Lite" they included with the upgrade was a table
> scrap, and a shameless example of commercial crippleware), and probably a few
> other things I can't think of right now.

I'm really surprised that Borland can't generate 32-bit code now.  Or can it?
I know that the 386/486 have one-byte opcode prefixes that force the next
opcode, if it would normally be an 8-bit instruction, then to do the right
thing but with 32 bits.  (In "native" 32-bit mode, the same opcode toggles
this to mean the opposite.)  So, you can assemble code *right now* that will
run on 386/486 in normal, icky real mode that can use the full 32-bit
registers.  (I'm not sure how this works with the processor's pointers,
though.)

So how much effort would it take (and how much CPU time would it save!!) to
convert all thoses uses of long (and int!!!) to 32 bit instructions?

Or is this being done already and am I years behind??
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.c++
From: fjh@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus James HENDERSON)
Subject: Re: Why no source control in Borland
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:42:06 GMT

aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis) writes:

>In <1601@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> hartung@crl.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung) writes:
>
>> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>> >Currently, the full package has every conceivable feature you could want
>> >except source control and OS/2 support [oops, wrong winge]. The only
>
>> And 32-bit code generation, and a DOS extender (32-bit would be nice, 16-bit
>> would be OK, the Phar Lap "Lite" they included with the upgrade was a table
>> scrap, and a shameless example of commercial crippleware), and probably a few
>> other things I can't think of right now.
>
>I'm really surprised that Borland can't generate 32-bit code now.  Or can it?

I heard a *RUMOUR* that a while back, Borland rewrote their code generator
in assembler for speed. Apparently since then (perhaps the people that did
that have now moved on?) it has been a bit of a maintenance problem, and
rewriting it to generate 32-bit code was not going to be a trivial task.

Disclaimer: it was only a rumour! (Maybe someone from Borland is listeninig
and can confirm or deny this?)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: lars_s@gemini.ldc.lu.se (Lars Sigebo)
Subject: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K
Reply-To: lars_s@gemini.ldc.lu.se
Organization: Lund University Sweden
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:35:50 GMT

I'm using Borland C++ version 3.0 in large memory model and are trying to 
link a couple of modules. I got this message from TLINK:

     Error: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K

Tools and Utilities Guide says: 
A group exceeded 64K bytes when the segments of the group wwere combined.

Any hint or workaround to solve my problem are appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
    Lars
--------------------------
Lars.Sigebo@ldc.lu.se
Lund University Computing Center, Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod)
Subject: Re: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 18:06:34 GMT

In article <rdippold.715665099@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>lars_s@gemini.ldc.lu.se (Lars Sigebo) writes:
>>I'm using Borland C++ version 3.0 in large memory model and are trying to 
>>link a couple of modules. I got this message from TLINK:
>
>>     Error: Group DGROUP exceeds 64K
>
>Move your "static" declarations in functions out to the top level of
>the file, from:
>
>main()
>{
>	static int big[30000];
>	/* lotsa stuff */
>}
>
>to 
>
>static int big[30000];
>main()
>{
>	/* lotsa stuff */
>}
>
>The same thing happens under Microsloth C.  Pain in the ass, and nasty
>for scoping, but Intel real mode is Intel real mode...
>-- 
>Q: Why did the tachyon cross the road?  A: Because it was on the other side.

One other suggestion is to declare any large structures of arrays
to be far. This will force them into their own data segment and
allow the Large Model to link without incident. Under Large Model,
far pointers are the rule, but they only operate 16 bit offsets, so
the largest structure or declaration(s) you can have must not total
more than 64K per segment . Also be aware that storage space is required for
arrays and structures so you can not legally declare something
like:

char foo[65535];

because of the storage space required to declare and utilize the
array at runtime. If you need to have larger structures, then use
Huge Model, which uses true 32 bit (normalized) pointers.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen)
Subject: Can I Intercept Stuff Going To A Printer Into A file.??
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:31:43 GMT
Followup-To: poster

For all you MSDOS wizards out there. Maybe a stupid question.
I have an application that prints out data from a very old DB system.
I need to get the output of a list from the database in a flat file.
(THe database is very old, and i have no DB access routines)

I can print pre-made lists. But they always go to the printer.
Is there aneasy way for me to intercept the stuff going to the printer
and route it to go to a file.

The program directly prints to the printer port.

Any ideas.????

All help is very much apreciated.!

Hank Janssen.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm-pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.writing
From: adelle@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (adelle.s.Petrocco)
Subject: Re: Reference software
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:05:03 GMT

In article <gegCBcK00iUz44b65A@andrew.cmu.edu> Seth Adam Eliot <se08+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Does anybody know of any software (preferable windows 3.1 application)
>that keeps track of a database of references (as in a technical paper)
>and inserts them into your word processing document (WinWord 2.0 in my
>case).
>


DataTrust Inc.
560 Main Street
Loch Arbour, NJ  07711
908-517-0001

The above company sells (mail order through a catalog - unless
you're lucky enough to live nearby like me) shareware and public
domain software.  They have a program called Black Magic.  It
was highly recommended for that purpose in a writer's book.
The description in the catalog:  Hypertext word processor.
Creates hypertext documents to link information with note
links, reference links, and replacement links.

The order number is WO131.  It is on 3 disks.  My catalogue
lists the prices at $3 for each 5-1/4" floppy or $4 for each
3-1/2" floppy.  10 5-1/4" floppies are $25.  10 3-1/2"
floppies are $35.  I don't know what postage charges are, but
I believe they take Mastercard and VISA with phone orders.

Also:

Public Software Library
P.O. Box 35705
Houston, TX 77235-5705
1-800-2424-PSL or 1-713-5224-6394

They have several programs but their descriptions are not very
long.

7024/0518 Instant Recall 1.64-pop-up P.I.M.
7305/1280 BiblioFile 3.11 - citation manage. sys.
7305/2725[2] Reference Management System 2.4h
7479/1238 Anyword 1.06 - text file index/retrieval
7651/1264 Trilogy - note storing & retrieving utility for
     writers, others
4164 Norman - manage citations, references, footnotes, etc.
     ASP HD. (4/92)

The catalog lists their prices as $5 each for 5-1/4" (360k) floppies
and $6 each for 3-1/2" (720k) floppies.  Shipping is$4 per
order plus 8-1/4% tax for Texas residents.

If anyone else has experience with these or other programs,
please post and let us know.  Thanks!

Adelle
adelle@cbnewsh.att.com
From: pm860605@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Peter Mckinney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Recording steree 44Khz,, 16bit? Disk can't keep up.
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:06:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College, Ft. Collins, CO 80523

In article <benanav.716134186@earth.njit.edu>, benanav@earth.njit.edu (Dan Benanav) writes:
|> pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Peter Mckinney) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <benanav.715966246@earth.njit.edu>, benanav@earth.njit.edu
|> >(Dan Benanav) writes:
|> >> 
|> >> Using my PAS16 and the pocket recorder I found that I am unable
|> >> to record in stereo, 44KHz and 16bit because the hard drive
|> >> is unable to write fast enough.
|> 
|> >There a few ways to tweak a bit more performace out of a slower
|> >hard drive:
|> 
|> >1. "Optimize" the disk - use a program that puts all files on one
|> 
|> >2. A read/write cache often helps, depending upon how the program
|> 
|> >3. Check to make sure your interleave is set optimally.  This only
|> 
|> I have a supposedly fast drive (Quantum 240 SCSI) and I am using smartdrv.
|> I may not have turned on the write caching.  I'll have to check that.
|> Also I am using Stacker and I have used it to unfragment the drive.
|> The performance tests using Norton indicate around 16ms access and 600KB
|> transer rate.

	Perhaps stacker is causing a problem.... It can't help your disk
write speed if you are trying to compress data on the fly....  I don't
have a PAS16 or Stacker handy so I can't say for sure.  Try a non-stacker
partion on your disk if you have one.

					- Pete McKinney
					- pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: emm@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Wendigo)
Subject: Difference between SB Pro versions 1 & 2
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:26:25 GMT

My sound blaster pro version 1 card developed a fault, and was sent
off to get fixed under warranty, and it came back as a version 2.

Could somebody fill me an as to the differences between versions 1 and
2 of the Sound Blaster Pro card please.


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From: boh@fraser.sfu.ca (Changhao Boh)
Subject: Sound Source Driver for Windows 3.1 needed.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:32:31 GMT

Hi, this question has been asked and answered here before, but I have lost 
the ftp site's adress, so...

If anyone know where I can find the Disney Sound Source driver for Windows 3.1
please e-mail the FTP address.

Thanks in advance.

Changhao.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: unicorn@phoenix.oulu.fi (Mika Saari)
Subject: Gravis Fax number ?
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:41:11 GMT

Does anybody know what is Advanced Gravis ..... fax number. If somebody knows
I would be happy if somebody could tell it for me.

Thank you very much !!!!!!!!!

unicorn@phoenix.oulu.fi

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tld@moon.base.bellcore.com (Terry Davidson)
Subject: Re: WINDOWS MOD PLAYER
Reply-To: tld@cosmos.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:58:07 GMT

In article <BuB9GE.JLG@casper.cs.uct.ac.za>, jholdern@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (J E Holderness) writes:
|> In <zappe.715792496@tubue> zappe@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Harald Zappe) writes:
|> 
|> >There is already out a MOD-Player using the Windows Drivers: WinMod.
|> >Also have a look into the news group comp.music , where you can currently
|> >find an english translation of the german WinMod-Docu (for more details
|> >look into this docu).
|> 
|> I know - I discovered it shortly after I posted that message. However, I
|> think that mine may be a bit better (subjective opinion of course).It isn't
|> quite as fast at the moment, but it does at least support protracker effects,
|> and should work on a 286 (i.e. doesn't use any 386 specific code). Anyway,
|> you can judge for yourself when/if I release it.
|> 
|> - Jim
|> 

When it is finished, please post it uuencoded, or post it to a major ftp
site, please!  

Now for the questions:  (1) will you win mod player support the PAS16?
(2) Use stereo mode at 44Mhz per channel?  (3) allow playing of lha-compressed
mods? (4) allow deletion of mods from within the program?

(3) and (4) obviously are the results of using mp ... nice little
program, but 8-bit (not 16) mono...  

Maybe I'm asking too much?  (grin!)  Anyway ... would be nice to have the
above features...



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: marcs@crpmks.uucp (Marc Snyder)
Subject: Speaking of unreal (where to get it?)
Organization: CIBA-GEIGY Corporation, Additives Division
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:57:41 GMT

Unfortunately, I do not have ftp access.  Does anyone know of a bulliten
board that I could dial in to to download a copy -- 9.6 or better
preferred.  Thanks in advance.
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Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Hawthorne, New York          Work: 914.785.2284      Play: 914.347.6440
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Organization: Penn State Star Trek club
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:59:52 EDT
From: Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Best place for mods.

In article <Bu9xpr.5z0@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pmueller@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Pete
Mueller) says:
>They are all compressed using .lzh format, but luckily i have a decompressor.
>the decompressor is call LHA.exe, but again i can't remember wher i got it.
>if you need it email me a message and i'll send it to you.

The compressor/decompressor program for the .lzh format for MS-DOS machines
is called lha213.zip and can be found at wuarchive.wustl.edu and garbo.uwasa.fi

>happy playing.
>-pete.

       Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
         <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@haydn.psu.edu
From: jholdern@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (J E Holderness)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Soundblaster FTP sites wanted!
Keywords: soundblaster ftp site
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:20:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: casper.BuJ9tq.I7y
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town

In <6562@kielouta.fi> f1toyl@uta.fi (Topi Ylinen) writes:

>I am still looking for good sites with good PD music software, especially
>ones that support Soundblaster (/Ad Lib). My first and foremost need is some
>easy-to-use music editor with still a sensible set of features like ProTracker
>on Amiga. I have heard is a PC conversion of PT.

I wouldn't recommend the PC version of PT since it doesn't support PT effects
(the version I have). There are other editors that do support PT, (I have
written one :-)), but I'm not sure where you can get them. I'm busy considering
releasing a new version soon, so am not to keen on ftping my old one, so
you can either wait or get something else.
From: lye@fraser.sfu.ca (Bill Lye)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: SBPro Internal PC Speaker Connection AND BIOS errors
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:28:27 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

>To connect the speaker to the SB Pro is easy. There are some problems
>though.

>1. All those stupid beeps from dos and BIOS will be quite loud and
>   clear.

>2. The volume (with most motherboards) is much higher than the max
>   volume on the SB. When you turn up the volume to listen to some
>   nice SB sound, it's quite a shock when you suddenly get a VERY
>   loud beep.

>3. There will be some noise. This isn't audible thru the PC speaker,
>   but when you connect it to the SB and turn up the volume a bit,
>   you will. You might hear when the screen is scrolling or the HD
>   is being accessed.

>All this can be fixed by adding a resistor, but then the connection
>isn't quite as simple.
> 
>-- 
>Stig (venaas@siri.unit.no)

So how would the setup look?  I've been planning to do this for some time
now, but had intended to ask the net.readers first about it, so this
looks like a good chance.

This looks like a reasonable setup to me, having never really looked
into the circuitry of the PC's speaker or the SB connector.


    O------+  
           | 
           /
           \ 
           / R1
    +      \ 
   PC      |  
 Speaker   +---------------------------------------------------------O       
Connector  |                                                          
    -      /                                                         - 
           \                                                       SB Pro
           / R2                                                   Connector
           \                                                         -
           |                                                         
    O------+---+                                               +-----O  
               |                                               |
              GND                                             GND

Using R1 and R2 as a resistor divider to adjust the levels.

How far off am I in my guesses?

What about not having R2, and using R1 and the input impedance of the
SB Pro connector as the divider?

Does anyone have any info on how small the resistor divider ratio should
be?  I would guess that the PC speaker connector puts out 0V low and 4V
or so high.  Does the SB Pro expect someting like 0V and 1V or something
else just as strange?

Thanks for any info...

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