From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: Where to get ST-Magazine.
Keywords: Magazines, german
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:20:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.181949.14435@ulrik.uio.no> jarleb@medusa.uio.no (Jarle Brinchmann) writes:

>I'm looking for the adress to ST-Magazine, also could anyone
>out there how much a subscription costs ?

>Are there any other german magazines that are worth getting hold of ?


>                                               Jarle.

I'm reading three German mags; ST Magazine, ST Computer and TOS regularly and
are planning to subscribe to the first two.
Hopefully others find this info useful...
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ST MAGAZINE
150 pages+, stapled, very thin paper, 12 issues a year
Centered around hard- and software reviews, features a magazine-in-the-magazine
called Cicero which is a DTP mag by Calamus makers DMC (very ineresting if
you're into publishing and design), DIY projects. Not too much for developers,
but a few topics are discussed each issue with listings etc.
Shop price: DM 7,-
Sub. price: DM 77,-
	    DM 65,- for students (add a copy of your student card)
		    NOTE: I don't know if this works outside Germany...
Mail rates: Add DM 18 if in Europe, DM 38,- for AirMail to the US, DM 68,-
            if you have a kangaroo for a neighbour...
Address:
Markt & Technik Verlag AG
ST MAGAZIN Leserservice
Hans-Pinsel-Str. 2
8013 Haar bei Munchen
Germany
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ST COMPUTER
around 200 pages, squarebound, sturdier paper than STM, 11 issues a year
A developers dream in terms of featured material for programmers, few but 
thorough reviews each issue, lots of text to read (My fave mag - i like to 
read), projects.
Shop price: DM 8,-
Sub. price: DM 80,- in Germany
            DM 100,- in Europe (Add DM 30,- for Airmail)
            No prices for US or other regions
Address:
Heim Fachverlag
Heidelberger Landstr. 194
6100 Darmstadt 13
Germany
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TOS
around 150 pages, swuarebound, best paperq. of the three, very nice design,
12 issuea a year (I think). Comes with a disk full of useful stuff like 
demos of commercial software, sourcecode, PD utilities etc...
I think this mag is both technical and business orientated, with many reviews 
and topics discussed, listings etc., but it has too short articles. It has a 
VERY good design and layout which is easy and comfortable to read but the
articles leaves something to be desired. It's expensive as well, due to the
high quality printing and the disk. I buy it occasionally (when someone I know
is in Germany...)
Shop Price: DM 15,-
Sub. Price: DM 152,- (DM 129,- for students)
No info given for additional costs outside Germany.
Address:
ICP Verlag GmbH & Co. KG (What a name...)
Leserservice TOS
Innere-Cramer-Klett-Str. 6
8500 Nurnberg 1
Germany
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My personal recommendation is ST COMPUTER. Dull layout, but LOTS to read.
ST MAGAZINE is cheaper and fancier, but might disappoint programmers.
As far as I know for scandinavians, ST MAGAZINE is available at Pressbyraan
in Sweden and should be available in Finland. I think I've found it in Denmark
as well.
 
Nomad

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