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From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: flooring materials
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:44:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, pgarnier@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Philip Garnier) says:

>Can anyone out there help me?  Although we do crate our dogs (two border
>terrier bitches) during the day (though rarely more than 4 hours at a shot,
>I've built an 8' x 8' pen in our basement for them to romp in.  The problem
>is that it is a bit cool, particularly on the cement floor.  Anyone have any
>ideas about what to put down on the floor to warm it up a bit?
>
>Dri-tek tiles are out of the question - for the cost I could buy them their own condo.  I think that they would eat cedar shavings.  And, I'm a bit worried 
>about fumes given off by new carpets - I've seen several news reports about
>people in office building getting sick after their offices had been carpeted.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
>Philip Garnier
>

I wouldn't worry about the whole floor.  It is not too cold, I would
imagine, for the dogs to run and jump and play on.  I t is perhaps just too
cold for a dog to sleep on.  So I would construct some raised, draft-proof
platforms with a suitable bedding material on them.  You could even line
them with scraps of vinyl flooring so that they are washable!  Different
hieghts on a few platforms and they can even use them for games!  The sky
is the limit with your imagination.

Gail Brookhart
ce293@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bev@pmafire.inel.gov (Beverly Novak)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:51:35 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: Registered WOLF hybrids??
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

In article <19939@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>I was browsing through the pets for sale section of the classifeds the other
>day and I noticed an ad that said something like this:
>
>Wolf hybrids, registerable.
>
>Say what? Is there actually a group registering hybrids now? This is in
>Canada, so there might not be the same thing where you live. If I can find
>that ad again I'll phone them up and ask and let you know what I find out...
>
>--
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca      Eight weeks 'til my Puppy comes home!
>or:      a4080@mindlink.bc.ca   ********************************************
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


The National Wolf Hybird Assocation registers hybirds. I am trying to get
mine registered at the present time.  The owner needs to fill out all
the background information on the hybrids, then NWHA decides if they
have enough information, I guess, to register the hybird. 

Bev Novak
bev@pmafire.inel.gov

Organization: Social and Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:33:09 -0500 
From: "Sara B. Kiesler" <kiesler+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: (another) mastiff

If anyone out there hears about a mastiff who needs to be rescued or
fostered, I'll take him/her!  I'll pay for shipping.  

I have a mastiff male, named Crom--18 months old and closing on 200
pounds.  He is the grand-nephew of Ozzy, my previous mastiff.  I think
mastiffs are the greatest dogs ever, and would like another. I'm not
reluctant to pay the (considerable) tariff for a fine pup, but would
rather rescue a mastiff that is losing his/her home.

Positive features of the mastiff: Mastiffs are gentle, loyal,
affectionate, protective (in a gentle but VERY confident way), funny,
and smart. (To calibrate, Crom now has a vocabulary of about 30 words
and phrases.)  They are big--the largest breed.  Mine has his own single
bed mattress since no dog bed I've found is big enough. Mastiffs don't
have many common dog vices such as yapping, running away, chasing cats,
digging, chewing furniture, biting, jumping up on people, pee mistakes
in the house, dog agressiveness, etc. They need to be brushed regularly
but it's easy to do.  They are very trainable but SLOW so lose points in
obedience. (When the trainer says, "down your dog.." everyone else has
been sitting for minutes, and Crom is still on his way to the floor...)
In contrast to the claim in a dog book I read, my mastiffs shed. Also,
on this bboard I once claimed that mastiffs didn't drool. Ozzy didn't,
but Crom does drool when there is any food around or when he is in the
park sniffing all the other dogs/trees or sometimes just when someone in
a brand new suit comes to visit...

Negative features: Mastiffs do not live long, as folks in this group
have noted.  You'll need a bigger car..preferably a truck, wagon, or
utility vehicle.  They are very expensive to purchase, if well bred, at
least $1,000. However, I kind of approve, since that will remind the
buyer that mastiffs will cost as much to feed and care for as some
kids..I buy 40 pounds of dry Iams or Eagle once a month and Bil-Jack
meat at 5 pounds a week or cook 39cents/pound chicken to add to the dry.
The only real bargain with mastiffs is that you can fly them on a plane
with you at the same price that someone pays who has a miniature poodle!
(That is, you pay by the dog, not by the pound...)

Cheers, Sara




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From: phunter@emr1.emr.ca (Paul Hunter)
Subject: Re: Dog who dig
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:48:53 GMT

ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org wrote:

>   I have heard of many bizarre methods of attempting to train dogs out
> of digging yards up.  I think they are all cruel.

Dogs dig as a result of instinctive behaviours that are usually associated
with saving food for later consumption. The domestic dog will still go through
these motions even if there is no food/bones to bury.

In hot weather, dogs without shade will often scrape down to the cooler dirt in
an attempt to remain cool. Dogs will also roll in fresh dirt to thwart biting
bugs.

Some dogs seem to enjoy the attention that their craters tend to elicit
from their bewildered owners...go figure.

How do you stop a dog from digging? Patience and a swift response to the
negative behaviour is essential. There are no quick fixes when curtailing
instinctive behaviours.

Most dogs tend to excavate the same spot over and over if given the
opportunity. If you can bury a hose nozzle in the hole and turn it on the
instant the dog begins to dig again, the shock value will usually
prevent that spot from being used again.

Repeat as needed until the dog stops digging...it will eventually get the
message.

If a hose is not workable for you, then a big jug of water will have to do.
When the dog digs, come running from the house like a screaming banshee and
thoroughly soak the dog. You must be alert for the behaviour and you must
be consistent in your correction no matter how insane you appear to your
neighbours.

When trying to correct a negative behaviour, your correction must occur while
the dog is doing the "dirty deed" not after it has been done.

Good luck.

Rgds.
From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help with Tissue-eating Dogs!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:19:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, CS#0@lafibm.lafayette.edu (CS#0) says:

>Two of my Goldens LOVE to take tissues from the bathroom trash
>and shred them into little pieces (all over the house!) and
>sometimes even eat them--ugh :-(   We usually keep the door
>closed, and when they get caught, a firm "No!" and "Drop!" will
>make them stop, but at night I leave the bathroom door open so
>that my children won't walk into a closed door, and the nightlight
>shines from the bathroom out into the hallway.  We have moved the
>trash can, tried black pepper, red pepper, and tobasco sauce, used
>set mouse traps, but Molly and Kelsey are not easily deterred!  Plus
>it is a nuisance to ALWAYS make sure the door is closed.  Any
>suggestions would be appreciated!  Thanks in advance!
>Susan Castelletti <CS#0@LAFAYACS>
>

Get a trash can with a lid on it or put the trash up on the toilet tank.

Gail Brookhart
ce293@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: vchung@nic.cerf.net (V Chung)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Clipping nails
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:37:36 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

 My 2 yr. old Chow used to hate nail clipping.  I found that if I catch
him when he is relaxed (1/2 hour of brushing usually did the trick), 
he doesn't seem to mind as much.  I would have him lay on his side, one
of us pet and praise him while the other one clip, there is never any 
struggle.

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From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Racoons & dogs
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:04:07 GMT


In article <1jh2niINNpjq@tamsun.tamu.edu>, emily@azariah.tamu.edu (Emily Glass) writes:
>|> by to be sure we had put all the food away for the night.  It sounds
>|> like we made the right decision to let Jasper stay in the tent.  Do
>|> others keep dogs in tents on camping trips for this reason?
>|> 

The first time we took the pups camping, they kept us up half the night while
the racoons cleaned our pots  :-)
>
>
>I keep my dog inside the tent when I camp, but not for this
>reason in particular.  The first time I took her camping,
>I left her tied up outside the tent, and she went crazy barking
>at all the strange noises.  I took the flash light and investigated.
>It turned out to be armadillos.  Since I assumed that their
>foraging might continue all night, I brought her in the tent,
>so that I could get some peace and quiet.  After that I always 
>brought her in the tent to sleep with me. (She is a 55 lb lab cross).

The second night, we just hushed them.  In the morning, I found some of the
biggest "racoon" tracks.  We figure the bear decided that Ivan was too big to
deal with!

Gig 'em!!!!!!
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From: smith@don.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: RE: Veggie eating pup
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 21 JAN 93 18:22:13 CST

My 2 1/2 year old Shih Tzu, "Murphy", eats baby carrots, apples and grapes.  I 
haven't tried too many other veggies because I wasn't sure how it would affect 
his stomach.  I originally thought he ate these things because they are "people 
food" and it was a treat in his mind.  He has a slight weight problem and 
someone told me that veggies are a good "low cal" treat for him, so I usually 
share them with him if I'm eating.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
From: dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews)
Subject: Re: Dog sensed earthquake, cats too, and geese
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:00:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho

Evidently the waterfowl anywhere near Mt. St. Helens took off w/in a few hours
of when it blew.  I'm cheating a little - evidently the water warmed up some
and that unnerved the birds.

My dogs, two nights ago, got really restless between 1 and 2 in the morning.
After reading all of the stories here, of dogs knowing about burglaries and
intruders and earthquakes, i had to get up and check around, see if i could
tell what the problem was.  Didn't find anything, although i half expect
the police to show up to investigate a robbery that took place next door... :-)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:20:04 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: flooring materials
Comment-To: Philip_Garnier@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/703 701
X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

   I wouldn't do anything special to the floor.  Just be sure they
have a nice soft bed to snooze on.  They'll run around a bit, romp,
get a snack, then head back to bed.  My dog sleeps on two old folded
blankets that she re-arranges to suit herself.  This is in the house
though.  For a cement floor, I'd start with a plywood box with maybe
six inch walls.  Put the bedding material into the box.
--- FMail 0.92
 * Origin: Hillcrest Community BBS of San Diego..619-291-0544 HST (1:202/703)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: me@vikings.austin.ibm.com (Michael E)
Subject: Re: docking
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:14:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: 50% off at Sears

 *** MY OPIN ONLY ***
One should not substitute mutilation for extra maintenance and care. 

In article <1993Jan23.144406.1@stsci.edu> rewald@stsci.edu writes:
>> In article <1993Jan21.154528.13379@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> twallace@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Todd Wallace) writes:
>>>
>>>What are the justifications (historical, aesthetic, medical) for
>>>docking?
>>>
>I was wondering about cutting ears?  I think that in some breeds, it is 
>aesthetics; in some (protection, baiting breeds) it's like another poster 
>mentioned - providing fewer "handles" for attackers.  But a friend of mine
>had standard schnauzers, and she didn't have thier ears bobbed.  The dogs were
>cute, but had a lot of problems with ear infections because very little air got
>in, and the ear canals were too moist.  Later in life, one of the dogs had a
>big problem with some kind of blood-filled cysts in the ends of the ears.
>Her vet said that because the ear fell over and made a crease, it caused a
>problem with the local blood circulation. 
>   So, I wonder if some of the ear-cutting has to do with early breeders not
>selecting for healthy ears?
The practice of docking ears, for example, tends to hide physically 
debilitating ear traits. Rather than carefully and PATIENTLY breeding dogs
with shorter (and healthy) ears we end up in these situations. Such
breeders could never select for healthy ears- they cut them off!!!

>   I'd very much like to get a doberman at some point, and if it's up to me,
>I'd just as soon not cut the ears, unless it will make problems later in life.
>So - Does anyone KNOW anything about it, or is it all tradition and speculation?
From: vchung@nic.cerf.net (V Chung)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help choosing family dog
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:37:43 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Group
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

There is a book title "The Right Dog for You", I forgot
the aurthor's name.  It's a great book for people in 
search for a breed. It even has quizes in the back to
help you choose the right dog.
Good Luck.:)


Viola  &  Blue (2 yr old Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Subject: Re:  Hitting
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:55:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.213328.46620@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2hwbtalk@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
= Anyone that "hits" an animal is an animal.  The dogs I have had over the years
= were never hit or had their nose rubbed in anything.  Using the word "no"
= firmly (BUT NOT SCREAMING) has ALWAYS worked in the past even for
= Trouble-maker type dogs.  

Just a minor nit:  We *all* *are* animals.  The alternatives are
plants or minerals or some obscure (to me) lower life form that
escapes me at the moment.	:)	:)	:)	:)

Sorry, the devil made me do it....


-- 
Best,

Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
	  crs@lanl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner)
Subject: ADVICE NEEDED!!
To: rec.pets.dogs
Posted-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 12: 48:39 CST
Organization: mailEnteringNews at Honeywell SRC
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:48:39 GMT
Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 12: 48:45 CST



Hi Net - 

I need advice on moving with a dog.  With all the discussion about finding
places to live with a dog, I'm hoping that you are brimming with advice on
moving with a dog!

Here's the situation.  We are building a house which will be done May 1 (I
hope!) and we have to be out of our townhouse March 1.  So....interium housing
here we come!!  We found a place where we can have Chaska - it's an apartment
attached to a private home.

Ok, here are my concerns:

* Chaska has only known the townhouse as "home" and LOVES his home.  And now we
will be taking him away from his home.

* He is very much a creature of routine.  He's got his places that he sits when
there are misc activities going on in the house.  He won't be able to get into
too much of a routine before we have to move again into our permenent house.

* Separation anxiety - he'll probably bark like CRAZY when we leave him to go
to work.  He is in a crate all day while we're at work, so it's not distrctuion
I'm worried about.  It's the noise.  THe people we are renting from have a
black poodle that they have taught not to bark.  I don't want Chaska to drive
them crazy.

* He's developed a nervous stomach.  We were ou;at the lot on Sunday and he was
running around and all of the sudden he wanted back into the car.  So, my hubby
let him in and he threw up.  He's never done this before, and I don't remember
him eating anything funny.


Other info:

*  Chaska is a three year old male Keeshond weighing about 57 lbs. (yes, he's
huge for a Kees).
*  He's crate trained -- he stays in a crate when we're not home.


I plan on taking 2 days off from work after we move to help get him settled.
Any suggestions as to what I should do with those two days?

Thank you in advance!!  I really appreciate your advice.  I want to reduce the
trauma as much as possible for my baby!!

Lesa Hobright-Turner
and Chaska the FurMonster






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From: michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet)
Subject: Re: Crates
Keywords: Crates
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:41:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.175817.25903@linus.mitre.org> rbeltz@hilda.mitre.org (Randy Beltz) writes:
>	For those of you who hunt their dogs, you know how MUCH fido loves 
>to roll around in dung (cow is my pups favorite)...
>
I certainly don't hunt my dog nor do I take her hunting, she still
loves to roll ane even eat (gross) manure and all sort of disgusting
stuff.

I'd like to get her to understand someday that it is a sure way
to get a bath as soon as we get home. No, I normally don't let her
do it but sometimes she is too fast for me. 


-- 
Michele Guillet 			The Communications Research Centre 
3701 Carling Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA, K2H 8S2	tel:613-998-2384
Internet: michele@dgbt.doc.ca
From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: How about owning 2 dogs of different sizes?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:45:58 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpctdkf.col.hp.com

There's this house near me where they had (before Christmas) two huge
St. Bernards and (at least) three various itty-bitty dogs. After 
Christmas I noticed there were three St. Bernards. Last week, I saw
there are now four. This is a regular suburban house & fenced yard, and
the dogs all seem to be indoor/outdoor dogs (sometimes they're in the
yard, sometimes not).

I don't know how all the dogs get along. They all seem healthy, happy,
and friendly, but... but... this is *weird*, isn't it??

 
-- 
Laura Johnson
lpj@col.hp.com
Opinions expressed are my own, but may be licensed for a nominal fee.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: traine@peaks.fsl.noaa.gov (Tracy Smith)
Subject: Re: Dog who dig
Organization: Forecast Systems Lab, NOAA - Boulder CO, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:13:10 GMT

 
|> In hot weather, dogs without shade will often scrape down to the cooler dirt in
|> an attempt to remain cool. 
|> 

Sadly, dogs WITH shade often dig themselves cool spots as well- usually in the 
shade!  Since we got our Elkhound his own house, however, he does dig less of
them! :)  

                   Tracy Lorraine Smith  Mom to Mink (Red Heeler/Elkhound)
                                                Ernest (Norwegian Elkhound)
                                           and Sam, a horse
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: feldman@cs.tulane.edu (Damon Feldman)
Subject: Bad breed choices (was: Akitas and children and other questions)
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27805]: diana
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:44:12 GMT

>I have a couple of questions for you Akita owners out there.  I have
>pretty much made up my mind that I want an Akita.  My only

Why?

>Also, how are Akitas for protection?  My wife likes the idea of having
>a large dog to take with her on walks (or is it the dog taking my wife
>for a walk? :-) ).  Any other things I should know about Akitas before
>I get one?

Akitas are excellent for protection.  If you don't know this, I can't 
imagine what it is about Akitas that made you want to get one.

Actually I can.  Fluffyness.  I often hear people express an interest
in northern (husky, malamute etc.) and oriental (Aikita, chow etc)
breeds even though they don't know much about the dogs' temperment!  I
would strongly recommend that people choose a dog primarily on the
basis of temperment and secondarily on appearence.

If you are not an experienced dog trainer and you want a dog that is
known to be protective and good with children, I'd recommend a German
Shepherd Dog from a good breeder (not somebody in the local
newspaper).

Akitas have a tendency to kill small animals and can be hard to
train.

Damon


-- 
Damon Feldman                  feldman@rex.cs.tulane.edu
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: docking
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:40:04 GMT

In <1993Jan21.154528.13379@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> twallace@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Todd Wallace) writes:

>I got a lot of personal flames for my admittedly biased question
>on the practice of docking dogs' ears and tails.  Let me see if
>I can put it in a more objective way:

>What are the justifications (historical, aesthetic, medical) for
>docking?

I knew a hunter that didn't dock his dog's tail and later had so many
problems with sores and burrs etc, that he finally had to have the
tail docked anyway.  It can make sense from a functional point of
view, if it's actually being used to hunt, etc.  But I think if it's
going to be done, it needs to be done soon after birth.

But apart from that, the only justification is "looking right."  For
some people, that's enough, for others it's not.

--Cindy
--
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