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From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Parametric EQ
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:42:25 GMT

In article <04JAN93.09948928.0177@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> MICH <MICH@UNB.CA> writes:
>I just bought a Boss parametric EQ and had a question about the
>relationship of the tone controls on the amp and the controls on the
>effects pedal. Do you basically set the amp controls at a neutral
>setting (if the dials go to "ten" setting them at "five") and shape
>the sound from the EQ or do you set the tone controls on the amp as
>you normally would (I like a bright, trebly sound) and refine it
>with the EQ?

Hm. What most people would use an EQ pedal for is to be able to get two
different sounds by stepping on the pedal. In this case, what you'd do is
set up your amp EQ for the sound you want when the pedal is off, and play
through that for most of the gig. When you want your other sound, maybe for
soloes or something like that, step on the EQ pedal and kick in that EQ as
well. So you'd probably use the EQ pedal to apply a treble boost or a mid
boost or something like that, depending on what you want to do.
Sounds to me, however, like you're planning to leave the pedal on all the
time. If you're not using other effects it probably doesn't make a lot of
difference which EQ you use, except that your amp EQ operates at line level
so it is probably less noisy and if you do a lot of treble boost you'll
probably want to use the amp EQ for that. I'd suggest using the more powerful
EQ and leaving the other one more or less flat, unless the pedal EQ is a lot
noiser than the amp EQ.

>Also, I have a Yamaha bass amp with both a volume knob
>and a master volume knob and I was wondering how these should be set
>up in relationship to each other. Thanks for any advice you can give

Depends whether your preamp or power amp is smoother/less noisy. Do most
of the amplification with the better amp, unless you want a grungy sound
in which case use the worse one :)  In most combo amps the power amp is
better (or so I'm told) and you should set the master on 10, then control
volume with the volume knob.

Your mileage may vary.
-- 
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From: morrowjp@rtsg.mot.com (Jerry P Morrow)
Subject: Bartolini Pickup 
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:19:59 GMT

I have a custom made five string bass with a Bartolini pickup.
I unscrewed the pickup out of the body last night, and found
that it had more than two leads to acquire a signal from.  
Does this thing have an upper and lower portion.  I have been
having a problem with the volume of my G string, it's significantly
lower than the others and I think the way the pickup is wired
has something to do with it.

Jerry`
morrowjp@adobe.rtsg.mot.com

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From: bgaughan@F22.ess.harris.com (Brady Gaughan)
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Recommendations
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:17:44 GMT
Reply-To: bgaughan@F22.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

In article 3351@ichips.intel.com, pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner) writes:
>
>Okay, my $.02:
>
>I found a used GK400RB in paper for $350. It's a rack mount amp and I
>absolutely love! It's very very clean (it's 200W into 4 ohms, which

Right now there's a clearance sale at Musician's Friend for new 400RBs for $399.
I'm not sure how long they will last...

>(typical) jokes aside, if you can find one in the $350-500 range used,
>take it...or at least try it out. I sware by mine, and will never sell it...
>unless I decide to upgrade to the GK 800 -- similar beast, but bi-amped

>Any other GK owners that want to add their spare change to my two cents?

I recommended (by Email) the smaller GK 150MBE as a more portable version of the 400RB.

I'm also thinking of upgrading to the GK800, which really is that beastly.  It puts
out 100W into 8 ohms on the high end, and 300W into 4 ohms on the low end, but it still
only weighs in at 23 lbs.

I really love my 150MBE (weighs 7 lbs) but I need the power :^) and the biampability (is that a word?).

--Brady
From: georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: first audition
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:20:31 GMT
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In article <lkgumuINNag3@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, paular@kubiki.Eng.Sun.COM (Paul Arthur) writes:
|> I went to a Stu Hamm clinic a couple of weeks ago and he had auditioned for Cher, Madonna and Oingo Boingo and was turned down by all of them. He said attitude is a
|> lot of it and he didn't take it personally when he was turned down. Both Cher and
|> Madonna were paying ~ $3k a week (according to Stu). Tattoos optional. :-) 
|> 
|>  


Since Stu's musicianship certainly isn't an issue, and he's reputed to
an easy-going, friendly guy (I've never met him, but have talked to
several people who have); perhaps what Cher, Madonna, etc. object to
is his "presence" on stage.  Every review I ever read of what-his-name-
the-guitar-guy (Surfing With the Alien) said that Stu stole the show.
It would certainly be consistent with Cher & Madonna's reputed egos,
anyway, wouldn't it?

Just a thought.
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From: jes@unislc.uucp (Jon Seaman)
Subject: Acoustic Bass Choices (for reasonable price)
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Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:09:12 GMT

I`ve recently become convinced I want an acoustic bass.
(not an upright)  I am completely terrifed by the prices.
It seems to get a decent deeply resonant sounding acoustic
you have to shell out some serious cash.  Well, 
I don`t have 2k to blow, but I also don`t want a Honer either.

Do any of you bass acoustites out there have any insight, 
or suggestions?

Thanks, 

Jonny Utah


"Be nice to your enemies because your friends might turn 
 out to be bastards!"--Mark Twain
From: eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Acoustic Bass Choices
Date: 9 Jan 93 21:09:36 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


Jon Seaman asked about acoustics.  Victor Eijkhout replied (among other things)

>The Washburn is a pretty nice bass. I've yet to hear a 'deeply
>resonant' sound coming out of *any* acoustic bass unamplified,

Long time regulars can skip this -- I've posted it a few times by now.  Try to
get ahold of an Ernie Ball.  They sound MUCH better than the Martins, and they're
a bunch cheaper.  Here's some info from a letter I sent someone once,

Okay, here it is:

        Ernie Ball
        Box 2117
        Newport Beach, CA   92663

Like I said in my original post, I don't believe the Earthwood Bass is
currently a production instrument.  They may still be making them on order
though.  And if not, maybe a BUNCH of people asking about them will make
the company decide it's worth it to start again.  My (admitted) guess as to
current price is in the $1200 range.  Not cheap by any means.  But a heap
less than the Martins.  And, like I said, they sound much better than the 
Martins.

Good luck,
Paul
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From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: Bass Technique Videos & Sounds
Keywords: instructional videos
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:04:19 GMT

Dewayne Pate and the guitar player on Dewayne's video, one Eric Orme, will be
doing a trio project. I'm trying to get them to make a 30 second song to upload.

For email: how many have seen Dewayne's video and would be interested in hearing
this?
From: paular@kubiki.Eng.Sun.COM (Paul Arthur)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: first audition
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:58:54 GMT
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I went to a Stu Hamm clinic a couple of weeks ago and he had auditioned for Cher, Madonna and Oingo Boingo and was turned down by all of them. He said attitude is a
lot of it and he didn't take it personally when he was turned down. Both Cher and
Madonna were paying ~ $3k a week (according to Stu). Tattoos optional. :-)
From: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Acoustic Bass Choices (for reasonable price)
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:12:00
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In-reply-to: jes@unislc.uucp's message of Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:09:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.180912.21649@unislc.uucp> jes@unislc.uucp (Jon Seaman) writes:

   I`ve recently become convinced I want an acoustic bass.
   (not an upright)  I am completely terrifed by the prices.
   It seems to get a decent deeply resonant sounding acoustic
   you have to shell out some serious cash.  Well, 
   I don`t have 2k to blow, but I also don`t want a Honer either.

The Washburn is a pretty nice bass. I've yet to hear a 'deeply
resonant' sound coming out of *any* acoustic bass unamplified,
but that instrument sounds really groovy amplified. Sells for $600
or so. The bass player in Mariah Carey's Unplugged performance
plays one like it.

Years ago the italian(?) Eko company used to make very cheap
acoustics that were not bad. Haven't seen them in the states though.
--
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Department of Computer Science ......... though not as many as I've come to
University of Tennessee .................. expect in new Windows products''
Knoxville TN 37919 ................................(from a software review)
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From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Bass amp colorations
Keywords: amplifier
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:29:27 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.bass
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Well, I recently switched basses to a Fender Jazz (fretless) to try to
get a more "growly" tone. This definitely helped, but in auditioning
guitars at showrooms I realized that my own amp is partially
responsible for my problems, because it doesn't have the usual bass
amp colorations. (By "amp", I mean the amp/speaker cabinet combination.)

My amp consists of a Bogen tube PA amp (or sometimes a Dynaco MkIII
hi-fi tube amp) on top of an SG cabinet which I've outfitted with a
Pyle 12" woofer (with a monster 70 oz magnet) and a Pyle horn
midrange. (Yeah, I know one 12" won't cut it playing with a band!) The
Pyle woofer has kind of a high cutoff (the large magnet overdamps the
low frequencies while giving high efficiency at higher frequencies) so
I usually turn up the bass knob on the amp a little.

So I think my amp/cabinet gives a fairly flat response, which I'm
starting to think is a no-no. (Try plugging into your hi-fi system to
see how strange your guitar sounds.) I think most bass cabinets are
too small for the woofer(s), resulting in a peak at the resonant
frequency. (Consider the case of a 15" woofer in a 2-cubic-foot box.)
Also, this represents an underdamped situation, where the
transient response is poor. I suspect that this poor transient
response helps give the "punchy" sound I'm looking for. (Yeah, I know
that it sounds contradictory, but I figure that a poor transient
response means that the note "builds" more slowly after you pluck it.)
Other colorations occur at higher frequencies in most bass cabinets,
due to insufficient bracing of the enclosure walls.

I managed to get a more "growly" sound by poking up my graphic EQ at
200 Hz, so I wonder if most bass cabinets have a broad hump at this
frequency as well...

So I guess I'll try sticking a pair of less-well-damped 12" woofers in
the same cabinet. This will give me twice the power handling and twice
the efficiency I have now with a single woofer, and will cause a hump
from about 50 Hz to 100 Hz with poor transient response. 

Anyone have any comments on bass cabinet colorations? My guess is that
they help you get a little closer to the sound of an upright, which
also "suffers" from poor transient response and all kind of resonances.

-Ralph
-- 
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Phone: (609) 757-6122; Internet: rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: MICH <MICH@UNB.CA>
Subject: Parametric EQ
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:12:43 GMT

I just bought a Boss parametric EQ and had a question about the
relationship of the tone controls on the amp and the controls on the
effects pedal. Do you basically set the amp controls at a neutral
setting (if the dials go to "ten" setting them at "five") and shape
the sound from the EQ or do you set the tone controls on the amp as
you normally would (I like a bright, trebly sound) and refine it
with the EQ. Also, I have a Yamaha bass amp with both a volume knob
and a master volume knob and I was wondering how these should be set
up in relationship to each other. Thanks for any advice you can give


  Jamie Mitchell
  Harriet Irving Library
  University of New Brunswick, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
From: francis@csli.stanford.edu (Straw Man Dude)
Subject: Korg A5
Organization: CSLI, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:15:31 GMT

It seems as if Korg has discontinued the A5 to make way for the
(more expensive) A4. I tried American Musical Supply and
Musician's Friend and they're both out of stock. Since I've never
bought effects before, I'd prefer to check out the A5 instead
of the more full blown A4 and save $$. Anyone know where they
might be in stock? Am I better off just going with the A4 anyway?

thanks,
dave
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz)
Subject: For Sale -- Ampeg SVT Head (near mint)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:54:47 GMT



For Sale:

	Ampeg SVT head, 1973-1974, almost mint condition,
	recently re-tubed, with heavy duty road case (also in 
	almost mint condition), vinyl cover, manuals, 
	schematics

	$550 plus shipping or best offer

	Can be seen in Teaneck, New Jersey, (near Paramus, 10 
	minutes from the George Washington Bridge and 20 minutes 
	from midtown Manhattan, 5 minutes from Hackensack)

Len Moskowitz
201-393-2915 (days)
201-692-0233 (eves)
moskowit@panix.com

-- 
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moskowit@panix.com
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From: pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner)
Subject: Re: SKB Racks and Hardshell Cases
Originator: pturner@sedona
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:08:22 GMT


In article <1993Jan11.204131.16712@viewlogic.com>, bobdavis@scumbag.viewlogic.com (Bob Davis) writes:
> One very good thing about them is they DON'T have the latch hardware
> on the rack, but on the lid, so there is no rattling while you are
> playing.  

	Good point! I had forgotten to mention that...beside being
	lighter and cheaper (price-wise I mean) than Anvil's, somebody
	must have actually thought about the vibration factor.

-- 
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From: bunkenba@dcs.gla.ac.uk (bunkenba)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: (none)
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:32:38 GMT
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|I have a custom made five string bass with a Bartolini pickup.
|I unscrewed the pickup out of the body last night, and found
|that it had more than two leads to acquire a signal from.
|Does this thing have an upper and lower portion.  I have been
|having a problem with the volume of my G string, it's significantly
|lower than the others and I think the way the pickup is wired
|has something to do with it.

|Jerry`
|morrowjp@adobe.rtsg.mot.com

The special thing about Bartolini is that ( usually ) have 
a separate coil for each string. The advantages are:
1) Each string-output can be controlled separately
   by volume or tone or distribution to two stereo channels.
2) The coils can be wired out of phase.
   This reduces noise ( like humbuckers ) without losing
   signal ( unlike humbuckers ).
However, if you have a Jazz-like pickup with 4 coils inside
beneath 5 strings, it is bound to be unbalanced !
I have a Jazz-like pickup with 4 coils ( inside the plastic;
you can't tell from the outside ), but Bartolini also makes
5 coil pickups and all sorts of custom orders. If yours is
indeed a 5 coil pickup ( i.e. with 10 pins ) you could
simply attach resistors ( or potis ) to the separate outputs
to balance their volume. Once the outputs are balanced, you
needn't change that balance, so there is no need for an extra
poti on the outside of the bass.

Alex
bunkenba@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
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From: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu (George Plopper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: bass/guitar
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:14:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan4.221420.19000
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1993Jan1.110514.8865@news.duc.auburn.edu> kevins@eng.auburn.edu (Kevin Sullivan) writes:
>I turned on the TV yesterday and Phil Donahue (sp?) is on and they're 
>talking about street musicians in New York.  A three piece band plays: 
>drummer, keyboard synth (DX-7 :-P), and the leader plays a guitar with 
>a _really_ wide neck and ten strings -- six string guitar on bottom and 
>four string bass on top (closest to his head).  Did some pretty interesting 
>stuff.  Oh yeah, it only had _one_ bridge for all ten strings.  I couldn't 
>see the name on it but I've never seen one of these things.  Seems like 
>a really short scale length for bass.

Anybody know what this instrument is? I'd like to know more about it.

-- 
George Plopper 
Email: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu
"I wish somebody'd tell me what diddy-wah-diddy means."
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
From: schwab@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Paul Schwab)
Subject: Re: bass/guitar
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:58:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.221420.19000@husc3.harvard.edu> plopper@husc8.harvard.edu (George Plopper) writes:
>In article <1993Jan1.110514.8865@news.duc.auburn.edu> kevins@eng.auburn.edu (Kevin Sullivan) writes:
>>I turned on the TV yesterday and Phil Donahue (sp?) is on and they're 
>>talking about street musicians in New York.  A three piece band plays: 
>>drummer, keyboard synth (DX-7 :-P), and the leader plays a guitar with 
>>a _really_ wide neck and ten strings -- six string guitar on bottom and 
>>four string bass on top (closest to his head).  Did some pretty interesting 
>>stuff.  Oh yeah, it only had _one_ bridge for all ten strings.  I couldn't 
>>see the name on it but I've never seen one of these things.  Seems like 
>>a really short scale length for bass.
>
>Anybody know what this instrument is? I'd like to know more about it.
>

The guy who played it referred to it as a "Treble-Bass", and the 
name of the group was "Rob on Bass."  Pretty interesting, although 
somewhat repetitive in the groove department. At one point Rob walks
over to the group's drummer, and lets him play a solo on the instrument.

Hmm..."Paul on Bass" kind of has a ring to it....

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Hohner JBFL fretless bass.
From: kjx@comp.vuw.ac.nz (R James Noble)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:55:19 GMT
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I have had a Hohner fretless PJ bass for a couple of years, (full
black body shape, two passive pickups).  I don't know how much this
applies to the JBFL bass.

I'm really just a beginner but I've found it a nice bass to play. The
black body looks quite nice, too :-) There is quite a full sound from
the front pickups, the front pickups sound a little thin put with a
bit of chorus or delay it will sing quite well.

One problem is that with full fret markings, I haven't managed to
really play it yet, without looking! Apart from painting out the
marks, does anyone have any idea how to stop cheating?

Caveats - the fingerboard will scratch with use and if you are really
unlucky you might chip it (if, say, your guitar player drops his
guitar at just the wrong angle :-(

kjx


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From: pfaff@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.s.pfaff)
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Recommendations
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:29:07 GMT


i have the an Ampeg SVT-200T - 350 watts (into 4 ohms) of clean,
reliable transistor power, nice EQ, built-in crossover for bi-amping,
3 effects loops, built-in limiter.  it's a little light on effects,
but at $560, i don't believe you can get more watts per dollar
anywhere else.  and i'd rather buy my effects separately, anyway.
i drive two homemade 1x18 cabinets with it, and i doubt i'll ever
need more power.

john
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