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From: beame@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Beame)
Subject: Re: PC/TCP 2.1 copy protection
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:39:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.020939.20733@tware.com> bash@tware.com (Paul Bash) writes:
>In article <716089066snx@crynwr.com> nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep9.215825.3145@tware.com> bash@tware.com writes:
>>
>>   By the way, [copy protection] was, I'm told, "requested by our
>>   foreign VAR's due to  problems with extreme piracy". B.S.
>>
>>I doubt it.  I know another TCP/IP vendor who receives orders for a
>>single copy from too many [foreign] distributors for them to avoid
>>the obvious conclusion.
>>
>
>Well, if you doubt that this is the _stated_ reason FTP Software implemented 
>copy protection, you are wrong. That is a direct quote (ok, paraphrased 
>_slightly_ since its been so long since the conversation took place) from FTP 
>Software personnel. We had quite a long discussion on this issue, publicly, 
>in this newsgroup. 
>
>If you doubt that that is the _true_ reason copy protection was implemented 
>then you and I agree.
> 
>If you doubt this is B.S. then you are welcome to your opinion.
>
>-- 
>Paul Bash                                                   Techware Design 
>bash@tware.com                                              Boulder, CO  U.S.A.

	As another TCP/IP vendor, I can definately say that we are under 
a lot of pressure to put some form of copy protection in our TCP/IP product.
This pressure is coming from our foreign distributors (we have had little or
no pressure from North American distributors). We even have a couple 
who refuse to carry our product until it has copy protection. The reason is
that in several foreign countries, illegal copying of software is the norm.
The distributors know that if the product is not copy protected, they will only receive small orders from their customers and the customers will copy the
software left, right and center. I am not saying that one can't trust customers
to abide by the license agreements, but it seems that some distributors in
some countries feel that their customers won't.

	I will say that even though I don't like copy protection, FTP Software's
duplicate copy notification is the best solution I've seen so far. It takes up
no extra Network bandwidth and probably a very small amount of memory. It
also seems easy to manage.

Carl Beame
Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd.

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: eengelke@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke)
Subject: Re: PC/TCP 2.1 copy protection
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:10:01 GMT

On the discussion of FTP's copy protection: 

I really hate any form of protection which can possibly interfere
with the reasonable operation of the network.  But FTP deserves
some respect for choosing such a benign protection scheme.

The original poster indicated a ten node network and so site
licensing was not a possibility.  You may wish to re-consider,
FTP's pricing makes the break even point somewhere around that
point.  That means it becomes cheaper to purchase a 20 node 
site license than fewer individual licenses.  And with the site
license you are free from the copy protection (as far as I recall).

Though none of us want to see copy protection and the pains it
creates, I would prefer to see implementations like FTP's over
keyed disks, keyed ROMs, etc.  And the use of warning messages
over bombouts.

Erick
-- 
Erick Engelke					  Engineering Computing
						 University of Waterloo
Waterloo TCP Architect		 erick@development.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: pktmux ? how to load 
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 02:16:40 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <mih.8.0@eng.ufl.edu> mih@eng.ufl.edu writes:

   I have pktmux and am currently using winpkt.com with wd8003e packet driver
   successfully.  How and what order do I load the pktmux  driver?

I believe that pktmux obeviates winpkt...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
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From: bash@tware.com (Paul Bash)
Subject: Re: PC/TCP 2.1 copy protection
Organization: Techware Design, Boulder, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:58:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.214208.41914@clinicom.com> john@clinicom.com (John Hensley) writes:
>
>Is anyone else torqued about this, or am I letting my bias against copy
>protection cloud my judgment of a handy new network management feature? Any
>suggestions for how FTP could protect their software *without* catching hell
>from people like me? Just doesn't seem likely, given the nature of the product,
>but I'd sure like the current policy to change....
>

About a year ago when I first heard about this, I asked the same questions you
are asking about in this newsgroup. The consensus was "tough". Most people
seemed to feel that FTP was within their rights to do this and many thought
they _needed_ to do it. I, like you, disagree that this is necessary.

Anyway, you can get an non copy protected version if you have a site license 
so you shouldn't be impacted at all. Its those of us with < 10 (or whatever
the magic "site license" threshhold is) copies that get the shaft. So be it. 

Fight copy protection by not buying products that are protected. Unlike 
previous years, there are several excellent alternatives now to FTP Software
for PC TCP/IP packages.

By the way, this was, I'm told, "requested by our foreign VAR's due to 
problems with extreme piracy". B.S. 

-- 
Paul Bash                                                   Techware Design 
bash@tware.com                                              Boulder, CO  U.S.A.
From: glenn@bass.aic.co.jp (Glenn Mansfield)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Problems Installing NCSA telnet on IBM PS55
Date: 10 Sep 92 07:15:20 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Advanced Intelligent Communication System Lab., Sendai, Japan.

Hi Folks!

I am attempting to install the NCSA communication s/w on an IBM PC 55 notebook
computer. 
In the Configuration file config.tel there is a slot where I am supposed to give
the video description. The choices are cga, ega, pga, ... vga50. I have selected
vga50. ( Is this correct ?)

I have also set bios=yes

Now:
	Ftp, finger, work perfectly OK.

When Telnet is executed I am given a message 

	 annot recognize video type- Cannot save screen
press ESC to exit or any other key to continue.

On continuing:
	sometimes it returns with timeout
	at other times it works OK- i get the login prompt etc.
	But the terminal mode is NOK even if I set the TERM to vt100.

On setting bios=no nothing appears on the display, but for the prompt.
But login etc proceeds. ( only nothing is echoed on the DISPLAY)

Could someone tell me what I am doing wrong ?

Thanks

glenn

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From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: PC/TCP 2.1 copy protection
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:37:01 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Sep8.214208.41914@clinicom.com> john@clinicom.com (John
Hensley) writes:
>Each copy of the new kernel is coded,
>I'm told, and sends out its signature onto my Ethernet, so all of my PCs'
>kernels can tell if they have been installed on more than one workstation.

Given this, what other TCP/IP packages are available that do not suffer from
copy protection? We're about to start buying some for our PCs, but I'd also
prefer to avoid copy protected software.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Bridging with packet-drivers, any solution ? 
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:39:31 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <pista.149.716020384@aszi.sztaki.hu> pista@aszi.sztaki.hu writes:

   I wonder if any one of you have heard about a sofware which is a Bridge that 
   uses packet drivers. On both sides of the bridge there is ethernet.

The 11.x packet driver collection will have a rudimentary bridge (pktbdg).

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
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From: bash@tware.com (Paul Bash)
Subject: Re: PC/TCP 2.1 copy protection
Organization: Techware Design, Boulder, Colorado
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 12:46:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.223938.14081@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> beame@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Beame) writes:
>
>	As another TCP/IP vendor, I can definately say that we are under 
>a lot of pressure to put some form of copy protection in our TCP/IP product.
>This pressure is coming from our foreign distributors (we have had little or
>no pressure from North American distributors). We even have a couple 
>who refuse to carry our product until it has copy protection. The reason is
>that in several foreign countries, illegal copying of software is the norm.
>The distributors know that if the product is not copy protected, they will only receive small orders from their customers and the customers will copy the
>software left, right and center. I am not saying that one can't trust customers
>to abide by the license agreements, but it seems that some distributors in
>some countries feel that their customers won't.
>

And what is to stop someone from either 1) patching the binaries to disable
the "copy protection" or 2) obtaining a non-protected version (as in FTP
Software's scheme for their site licenses) and then distributing these 
versions freely? Has copy protection helped you any? No. Has it hampered your
legit customers? Most definitely. Do you honestly think it will take more than
a week or so for someone to figure out how to bypass any scheme you can think
of? 

This smells of playing to the lowest common denominator. 

>	I will say that even though I don't like copy protection, FTP Software's
>duplicate copy notification is the best solution I've seen so far. It takes up
>no extra Network bandwidth and probably a very small amount of memory. It
>also seems easy to manage.
>

And were Beame and Whiteside to implement the same scheme would we start
having problems with conflicting serial numbers between your product and
FTP Software's on the same net?? What about when the next vendor comes along
and thinks this is such a great idea and jumps on the band wagon (but of
course not taking the time to _ensure_ its serial numbers are unique).

I sincerely hope B&W do not go this route, because you have been my primary
alternative to FTP Software's MSDOS product in the consulting I do. It would 
be a shame to have to search for another alternative.

>Carl Beame
>Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd.


-- 
Paul Bash                                                   Techware Design 
bash@tware.com                                              Boulder, CO  U.S.A.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: maniac@taj.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Subject: Unusual lpd requirement.
Reply-To: maniac@taj.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 01:19:44 GMT

Are there any freely distributable lpd deamons that run on under
MSDos that will cooperate with GhostScript so that users can send
postscript files directly to the queue?  I ask this because my
supervisor wants me to figure out a way to get a PaintJet on our
local net so we can print color postscript files.

-- 
Eric J. Schwertfeger, maniac@jimi.cs.unlv.edu
From: julien@sdc.boeing.com (William Julien)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: problems with PC/TCP's NFS
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:48:43 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services (ESP), Seattle, WA

In article <1hZ2JL#MJzb8=bruno@broue.rot.qc.ca> bruno@broue.rot.qc.ca (Bruno Majewski) writes:
>
>Hello,
>
>(a message concerning this problem was posted a few days ago,
> but because of disk problems on our machine, it might not have
> gone out... so here I go again)
>
>We are using FTP Software's PC/TCP package to network a few PCs onto
>a UNIX server, but we have a small problem with it. While the performance 
>of the setup is good, mounting a... "network drive" on the PC is unacceptably
>slow (I timed this at 35-40 seconds to perform an `idmnt').
>
>We thought it might be the server being too slow (386-33), but a Macintosh
>using NFS/Share from Intercon can mount a "network volume" almost instantly.
>So the problem seems to lie with the PC's setup, but we can't see what 
>parameter could affect performance in such a way.
>
[stuff deleted]

I have noticed that if I mount a unix directory with a lot of files and/or
files that require dos mapping, the idmnt takes quite a while. It takes
even longer for windows file manager to look at the directory. 

I have no solutions, but perhaps this is part of the problem?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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   /\  / o o \		     William Julien
  //\\ \~(*)~/		Boeing Computer Services	julien@sdc.boeing.com
  `  \/   ^ /	   	     (206) 865-5511		
     | \|| ||						     Grin and
     \ '|| ||		   Performance Analysis		      ignore
      \)()-())          #include <std disclaimer>		it
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From: jthomps2@purcell.helios.nd.edu (james thompson)
Subject: Re: Packet driver for Lantastic card
Reply-To: jthomps2@purcell.helios.nd.edu (james thompson)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:26:46 GMT

In article <mih.5.0@eng.ufl.edu>, mih@eng.ufl.edu (Marc Hoit) writes:
|> Does anyone know if there is a packet driver for the ethernet card sold with 
|> Lansastic?  Or what it's functional equivalent is ?  (I have all the 
|> Clarkson drivers but don't see it there)  Mabey who makes the card for 
|> artisoft ?
|> 
|> thanks
|> 
|> Marc Hoit
|> mih@ce.ufl.edu


The functional equilalent of a Lantastic NE/2 (I think that is what is the
Novell NE2000.  But there is a jumper change to accomplish this.
 
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: braun@kadsma.kodak.com (Curtis Braun)
Subject: I'm almost there and here, but 
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Telstar
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:48:33 GMT

I'm using ka9q onone of my boxes at home. I have the
3c501 working to my other PC and Macs. I have my packet 
radio working with the local tcpip group. 

Now If I only had ppp to get back into the office. I can
see that ppp is listed in the docs. Can anyone point to where
I can ftp the exe file for a version that has the following
attach's available. packet,DRSI,asy,ppp. Almost all the distributions
have some but not all my needs. I can't remember where to ftp
the sources from either, something about a rabbit at bellcore.
Any pointers would be helpful, especillay if ka9q ppp is compatible
with the suns. Thanks in advance....


-- 
Curtis Braun (curtis@computronics.com) (n2hkd)
Computronics, POBOX 1002 Fairport,NY 14450 
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Subject: Re: Looking for Excelan
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 16:32:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

The company Excelan as such no longer exists.  It was purchased by
Novell Inc. a number of years ago.  I suggest you try San Jose
information but ask for Novell and they should be able to refer you to
the right place.
From: mark@wupost.wustl.edu (Mark Pohlman)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: SNMP-based Monitoring Software for PC's
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:55:50 GMT
Organization: ONC - Washington University in St. Louis
NNTP-Posting-Host: wugate.wustl.edu

Does anyone know of a public domain or commercial snmp-based monitoring
software package for PC's.

You can reply to this list or e-mail to me directly.

mark@wugate.wustl.edu
-- 
mark@wugate.wustl.edu
From: gts@MICA.BERKELEY.EDU (Greg Small)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: PC/TCP 2.1 copy protection
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:24:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

= From pcip-request@louie.udel.edu Thu Sep 10 04:56:11 1992
= From: Karl Auerbach <Mongo-Jr.Empirical.COM!karl@ames.arc.nasa.gov>
= I've been running the FTP 2.1 code with the serial number code for some 
= months now.

Thank you for information about acutal use of the features in question!

I have for some time puzzled over how unlicensed use of commercial software 
could be reduced.  I do surely dislike bureaucracy and the endless growth of 
senseless paper work and record keeping.  It is also creates substantial and 
ongoing expense, consuming resources that are better used elsewhere.  Alas, 
most of the automatic schemes, only trade bureaucracy for support problems. 
However some of the responsibility is ours as end users.  I would hope that 
we could give new techniques in this area a chance to succeed or fail on 
their merits, just as we presumably would do for other new technical features.

The University has been trying to formulate policy and codes of conduct, to 
clarify to faculty, staff and students what their responsibilities are.  A 
big part of the problem is end user ignorance.  This seems to take at least 
two forms: ignorance of basic property rights, and ignorance of the purchase 
and license status of the particular softwares on their workstation.  A 
simple notice that unlicensed duplicates are in use, should eliminate much of 
the problem.  This cannot be a general warning on every copy, that will just 
be ignored (we are talking I have for some time puzzled over how unlicensed 
use of commercial software could be reduced.about human beings after all!).  
I have suggested to the University that good policies and code of conduct 
rules are useless without required education on the issues and details.

Gregory T Small                                      1-510-642-5979
Personal Computer Networking & Communications        gts@violet.Berkeley.EDU
Workstation Software Support Group, IST/WSS          216 Evans Hall
University of California, Berkeley, Ca 94720         1-510-643-5385 (Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.protocols.nfs
From: ed@sfu.ca (Ed Hargrave - ACS)
Subject: Re: How to mount PC file systems via tcp/ip? 
Keywords: mount PCNFSD
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:54:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.232409.14567@unipalm.co.uk> ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps) writes:
>From: ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps)
>Subject: Re: How to mount PC file systems via tcp/ip? 
>Keywords: mount PCNFSD
>Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:24:09 GMT
>jbvb@vax.ftp.com  (James B. VanBokkelen) writes:
>
>>In an effort not do do "the Emperor's New Clothes" with "NFS Security",
>>the IDMNT.EXE we distribute insists on authentication via a PCNFSD server,
>>and doesn't allow the user to specify the UID/GID as integers.  Thus, it
>>can't talk to SOSS.  However, you can get from our Tech Support people
>>a MNT.EXE which lets you specify UID/GID and mount SOSS (and other things
>>that don't have PCNFSDs available).
>
>>James B. VanBokkelen		26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA  01880
>>FTP Software Inc.		voice: (617) 246-0900  fax: (617) 246-0901
>
>... and, a little safer, the 2.1 version of IDMNT will allow you mount
>drives but have the authenitcation come from a single machine.
>
>Ian
>-- 
>Ian Phillipps, Unipalm Ltd, 216 Science Park,		Phone +44 223 420002
>Milton Road, Cambridge, CB4 4WA, England.		Phax  +44 223 426868
>	The road to hell is paved with melting snowballs - Larry Wall
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From: bash@tware.com (Paul Bash)
Subject: Looking for Excelan
Organization: Techware Design, Boulder, Colorado
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:34:16 GMT


I need to find a contact telephone number for Excelan, Inc. I have an
Excelan EXOS 215T Ethernet Controller for a PS/2 (microchannel) bus.  
Unfortunately, there are no disks with it (the option and/or driver disks) so
I'm kind of stuck in the water (i.e. my PS/2 model 80 won't recognize it).  

The doc with the board has a telephone number in San Jose, CA, for Excelan 
customer support, 408-434-2285, but nobody answers the phone. I'm assuming 
they no longer use this number. 

Any help with contacting them would be much appreciated. Optionally, if I 
could arrange with someone to get copies of the software diskettes for this 
board, I would be happy to pay for material and shipping costs.

Thanks.

-- 
Paul Bash                                                   Techware Design 
bash@tware.com                                              Boulder, CO  U.S.A.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: Ever hear of a TNVT100 or TNVT220?
From: Michel.Davidoff@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff)
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:50:32 PDT
Organization: Sonoma state university

In article <92258.221024U41602@uicvm.uic.edu> Rich Chong <U41602@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Subject: Ever hear of a TNVT100 or TNVT220?
>From: Rich Chong <U41602@uicvm.uic.edu>
>Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 22:10:24 CDT
>Anyone ever hear of a TELNET like program for the ibmpc that
>will do VT100 emulations? How does it work? Where o where? and how much?
>Thanks!
>rc
How about NCSA. It has Telnet and FTP and has VT100 emulation.

Michel
From: blaes@ernohb.UUCP (Rainer Blaes)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: PathWay Access 2.0
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:57:22 GMT
Organization: Erno Raumfahrttechnik GmbH, Bremen, Germany


 Dear experts,

 who is using, has experience with PathWay Access from 'The Wollongong Group'?
 What are the dis/advantages over other TCP/IP packages?
 When is Version 2.1 arriving?

 Many thanks in advance!

 Rainer Blaes
 MBB/ERNO
 
 blaes%vim_s@ernohb.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: dank@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Daniel R. Kegel)
Subject: Re: Problems with Novell LWP
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:18:41 GMT

I wrote:
>I just got my NE2000 card and a copy of Novell Lan Workplace for DOS (their
>name for TCP/IP software).  
>Unfortunately, I can't seem to get it working.
>I've gotten it to ping itself, but it can't see anyone else, and vice versa.
>Worse yet, I can't seem to get ne2000.com to unload; it complains
>    FATAL : Failed to locate MLID section heading in NET.CFG File.
>One final question: where should NET.CFG be located?  In the directory where
>the utilities live?  In the current directory?  I get no guidance from the
>manuals.

The problem went away when I:
1. switched to IRQ4, base 340h,
and 2. moved ne2000.com, lsl.com, and net.cfg to \xln\bin40.

I tested it with a batch file that loaded all TSR's, pinged a few
addresses, unloaded all TSR's, and looped.

Thanks & sorry for the bother!
- Dan K.
p.s. Here's the torture-test; it shows how to unload all the TSR's:

:top
lsl
ne2000
tcpip
telapi
SET NAME=dank
SET EXCELAN=C:\XLN

netstat -e
netstat -t arp
netstat -t route
netstat -t pcmib
ping sangfroid
ping ftp.uu.net

telapi -u
tcpip /u
ne2000 u
lsl u

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