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From: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu (Griffy)
Subject: Re: live version "the forest" (was cure thread)
Reply-To: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:32:26 GMT

In article <2040@deadmin.ucsd.edu>, lynn@ft1.ucsd.edu (Lynn Gottesman) writes:
>Many of you mentioned that the live version of "the forest" is among your  
>favorite cure songs.  I just wanted to point out another awesome live version  
>of "the forest" on the concert video "cure in orange".  I think it is better  
>than the recording on the concert album ("the forest" is my favorite cure  
>song).  I used the audio out on my VCR to make a audio tape of sound part of  
>the video.  The sound quality of the tape is fair, but the music is GREAT.  It  
>is my favorite cure recording.  There are also great versions of "push","100  
>years", "faith" (totally awesome) and "10:15 saturday night", on the video,  
>just to name a few.   Just thought I'd pass this on to the other "forest" and  
>cure enthusiasts out there.

    Not only this, but they also have a brand new concert video (called "Play
Out" I believe) coming out any day now that's a video recording of their
Detroit Silverdome show during their Wish tour.  This has in it, like all their
other shows on this tour did, the 15-17 minute (!) version of "A Forest" as    
the final encore song of the concert.

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From: troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: A Band Called Firehouse
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:17:25 GMT
Organization: Right Coast HQ For Stupid Pub Tricks
In-reply-to: cjones@eng.umd.edu's message of 13 Aug 92 22:55:07 GMT

>>>>> On 13 Aug 92 22:55:07 GMT, cjones@eng.umd.edu (Christopher T. Jones) said:
	Christopher> 	Does anyone out there have the scoop on
	Christopher> Firehouse?  I know that they're mentioned in a
	Christopher> Red Hot Chili Peppers song (Good Time Boys, I

I think you are referring to fIREHOSE, not firehouse which by the way
is a TOP40 type band.

fIREHOSE gets discussed here everyonce in a while.  About 3 months
ago a couple of interviews from a radio station were posted here.

They were on tour/finished their tour in the beginning of the summer,
I am not sure when they will tour again.

Rod
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From: stone@bradley.bradley.edu (Steve Stone)
Subject: Re: Heaven 17: Let Me Go (which album)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:13:23 GMT

In <mary.713573272@ferkel> mary@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Mary Cardenas) writes:

>Well I woke up this morning with that song
>in my head, headed over to the phonograph,
>popped on 'Luxury Gap' and discovered
>that 'Let Me Go' is not on there.

>Funny, I thought I had 'Let Me Go'
>somewhere.  Which album was it on?
>'Penthouse and Pavement'?  Was
>'P & P' even released in the United
>States?

I don't think that album was released with that name
in the States. I had an untitled H17 album that was 
multi-colored washes of paint: blue, yellow, pink
and it had (from memory):
	Let me go
	Penthouse and Pavement
	Who'll stop the rain
	Geisha boys and temple girls
	We're going to live (for a very long time)
	I'm your money
		and others

Now I will have a synth-pop morning. I hope my tape
of "how men are" never breaks. I have already lost
the above vinyl album to the forces of chaos.
-- 
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Electronic Services Librarian		Peoria, Illinois
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From: jepace@fajita.ucdavis.edu (Logjam)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Throwing Muses tour??
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:43:36 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

Hello everyone  ... the new Throwing Muses album is out, and its
fairly ok, considering Tanya is gone ...

Anyway, does anyone know about a tour? Especially in Northern
California?  I asked TicketMaster, and they only had one date
and thats in Long Beach (Aug 18th, I believe)  So are they
coming up here?  Thankx for any info.

Also, where can I hear something by Belly, Tanya Donnelley's
new band?

Later.

Logjam

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From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: Major Label Music is EVIL!
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:08:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.134316.25944@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>conroym@news.colorado.edu (Matthew Conroy) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>2. Someone said that distribution is necessary for independent labels, and
>>hence the need for major distribution companies...well, what about mail 
>>order? i know some labels sell there stuff this way (RRR, Dischord, SST)...
>
>What about us poor folks w/o credit cards? :)

	You don't phone in your order, you mail them a check or
	money order with your order.  So you don't need a credit
	card.


>You're just giving someone else the "profit".  Maybe a large chain store.
>Most companies (small labels included) exist for the purpose of making
>a profit, I would say - if a company *didn't* then it wouldn't be a company
>very long!

	Wrong.  A small, independent record label can make just
	enough money to produce the next release and still exist
	for a long time.  The point is whether the company exists
	to make enough money to keep going, keep releases new records
	and giving exposure to unknown bands, or whether the company
	exists soley to make lots of money to stuff into the pockets
	of the executives, to spend on huge, comfy corporate offices,
	etc.
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From: travisj@adp.uucp (Travis)
Subject: Re: Pearl Jam:  why do you hate them?
Organization: U of Wisconsin ADP
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 17:53:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.141625.21390@wam.umd.edu> cradle@wam.umd.edu (Dave Eisner) writes:
>
>Or perhaps you think they've sold out, or are just trying to get rich, riding
>on the crest of the Seattle wave.
>

To all you stupid FUCKS out there you think that Pearl Jam "Sold Out", 
you are all full of shit. Stone Gossard & Jeff Ament were at the very 
beginning of the "Seattle Sound" shit. They were in a band called
Green River- which you should all already know. Then they were in 
Mother Love Bone then Pearl Jam. Stone & Jeff are much more responsible
for the Seattle sound than any other band except the Melvins.
Their first album - Come On Down is from 1985 for christsakes.

Since the split of Green River they started a more Melodic style of grunge
like Mother Love Bone.  They have progressed is this style with Pearl Jam.

My point is that Stone & Jeff are part of the founding fathers of grunge style
rock. They have "paid their dues" before Alice In Chains or Nirvana
or Soundgarden or ...... everyone except the Melvins and Malfunkshin(sp?)
and Mudhoney from which members came from the Melvins and Green River.

Listen to MLB and you will see the progression. The only problem with
Pearl Jam is their wimpy pits(at concerts that is)  :)

Its fine that you think Pearl Jam sucks but DON'T think that they sold out.

Trav



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From: ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Music stores around DC
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:52:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

There are several good music stores (meaning "rock music stores"- there are 
others for classical music, for rap, for house, for gogo, but i don't know 
them) in the DC area, but most of them are outside DC proper.

For new indies (American or British) or for 1980s indie music, especially if 
it's British, your best bet is Vinyl Ink, in Silver Spring, MD just outside 
DC. (Metro: Silver Spring)The guy who runs Slumberland Records worked there 
until recently.

For punk & hardcore, try Smash! in Georgetown.

For rare 60s and 70s rock and for jazz, try Orpheus records, also in 
Georgetown. Lots of rare stuff expensive, lots of easier to find stuff 
including some punk rock records, cheaper than elsewhere.

For almost anything rock, Yesterday and Today is a good bet. They've got an 
entire room full of singles! Unfortunately they're rather inconveniently 
located in Rockville. I forget what the Metro stop is--possibly Twinbrook.

There are other good stores in the  Virginia suburbs which I don't know 
very well.

steve burt
c/o ben@athena.mit.edu
From: ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Swirlies new Split 7"
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:15:18 GMT
Distribution: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

News for people who buy seven inch records (which is pretty much everyone
on this list except for the few people who write about The Cure):

There is a Swirlies/Kudgel tour single available called Red Fish
Dreams.  The package includes two 7"'s each with a Swirlies song on
one side and a Kugdel song on the other.  The Swirly songs are four
track and chimpy, but none the less charming.  (One will be on the
upcoming CDep on Taang!, the other is doomed to obscurity.)  The
Kudgel songs are similar to those on their Cinderblock release: noisy
chimp-rock.  (For a definition of "chimp-rock" send away for Fishin'
Buddies issue #1, 1 buck, c/o Mark Erdody, P.O.Box 1243, Allston Mass,
02135)

The tour single can be purchased from Nervous Records, P.O. Box 3443,
Cambridge MA, 02238 for 6 bucks (which includes postage) or from the 
above Allston address for an unknown sum (probably also six bucks)

Get them while they're hot.  We can't re-press them because Taang!
owns the Swirlies' souls.

ben
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: beker@sci.kun.nl (B.P.T.M. Beker)
Subject: Re: James Brown is dead
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:29:18 GMT

In <15AUG199216484020@apsicc.aps.edu> larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (Shawn Larson) writes:

>Does anybody out there know who does this song?  (it's techno music)

The song is from 'LA Style'.
It's made in the country I live in, Holland that is.
The producer's name is Denzil Slemming.
It's my all time favourite Techno song. It's ten times
better than all its klones:
 Who the fuck is James Brown,
 James Brown is still allive,
 Who is Elvis,
 and so on, and on, and on...


>Shawn

Benny.
From: denmark@csustan.csustan.edu (Mark Dinh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Major Label Music is EVIL!
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:59:15 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <1924@coyote.UUCP> ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger) writes:
>Or how about Nirvana leaving SubPop?  As I understand it SubPop got points
>on Nirvana's zillion-selling major label release.  I would guess the cash
>from that deal helped SubPop a lot more than Nirvana having stayed would have.

I don't think they got any royalties for Nevermind.  But I know that they got 
about a zillion request for the Bleach album (released on SubPop).
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From: sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: new order live
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:20:33 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <1992Aug18.122022.5961@cs.tcd.ie> droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe) writes:
>>the local radio station.........before "way of life" he messes with
>>his guitar and then says "all right motherfuckers, this is way of
>>life".
>>then on blue monday, instead of "if it wasn't for your
>>misfortune..."
>>he sings: "if it wasn't for your BIG COCK....."
>>
>
>I remember some interview where Steve and Gillian said they had yet to
>see Barney do a live show without being at least halfway pissed before
>it begins, and near collapse near the end. Live at the SFX here in 

I remember seeing them at the Reading Festival in '89, and Barney said
something like "This must be the first festival we've played where we've
been more out of it than the audience."

Sorry if this has already been said.

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From: droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe)
Subject: Re: new order live
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Astrobiology)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:20:22 GMT

>the local radio station.........before "way of life" he messes with
>his guitar and then says "all right motherfuckers, this is way of
>life".
>then on blue monday, instead of "if it wasn't for your
>misfortune..."
>he sings: "if it wasn't for your BIG COCK....."
>

I remember some interview where Steve and Gillian said they had yet to
see Barney do a live show without being at least halfway pissed before
it begins, and near collapse near the end. Live at the SFX here in 
Dublin some years ago, Barney fell over between songs, and dropped his
bottle, (I think it was neat CDG, but I cant remember). Plus, on the
"Live at the Ukranian National Home" vid. the whole band seem to be one
over the eight, certianly, there are one or two bottles on stage. Fair
play to the man I say. If you cant drink on stage then whats the point
of being a pop star?

	Dave Roe
From: kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y. Kawado)
Subject: Re: Morrissey vs. Smiths
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: kkawado@ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y. Kawado)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:57:02 GMT

In article <Bt6uwE.J2t@wpi.WPI.EDU> flamengo@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lourenco William Dantas) writes:
>	Did anyone catch Morrissey on Hanging w/ MTV or on 120 Mins.?
>	He claimed that if he had to choose between playing with the
>	Smiths and the band he has now ("this" band), he would prefer
>	"this" band. Many people clapped and cheered for this response.
>	Plus, when this question was asked, the girl who asked it was
>	booed.

Heh...that show is pretty bad...I don't know why Morrissey agreed to play
on there.  Anyway, everyone knows that the Smiths breakup is still a very
sore subject for Morrissey and people tend to avoid confronting him
about it like the plague :-).  I think it kind of shocked a lot of people
rather than angering them.  I liked the line about Sylvia Plath.  From
the looks of the audience, including the girl that asked the question,
none of them seemed to know who Sylvia Plath was :-).

>	Now, I am wondering whether people are more pleased with Morrissey
>	and his present band than with the Smiths. If you have an opinion
>	please speak (or write) out!
>	Personally, I prefer the Smiths over Morrissey and his "solo"
>	career, and was kind of disappointed at the response the crowd
>	gave against the Smiths.

Well, Morrissey has been infinitely more popular than the Smiths, even
though some of his music isn't quite at the same standard as it was with
the Smiths.  I really like his new band; it's the best set-up he's had
in a LONG time.  Now that they're writing music together, the band shows
some promise.

Anyway, Morrissey has a large group of followers that love him for the
music that he writes and what he stands for.  Ever since _Viva Hate_,
he's been trying to put the Smiths behind him, and I think all the
Morrissey fans out there understand this.  I don't think the people
don't like the Smiths, it's just that at this moment, Morrissey is
promoting his own albums and concerts, not the Smiths.

=K=
Kevin Kawado

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From: zappia@usops.enet.dec.com (Jim Zappia)
Subject: Tour Singles / Bye for now
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 17 AUG 92 10:29:28 EST



	I'd like to know what other bands currently have tour singles 
	available at shows...

	One that I'm aware of I'd like to find a copy if possible, 'Threes 
	Company' that features Tsunami, Seaweed, and Superchunk.  I suspect 
	that this Merge release	has been sold out.   I have yet to write to
	specifically ask or to inquire if the Simple Machines folks 
	co-released it?  Anyone know details of this?

	Another that comes to mind but which was not yet available when
	I've seen them is the Swirlies and Kudgel single.

	Tells us about some others.

	If anyone has a spare 'Threes Company' they'd like to part with...!!!!

	- Jim
	112 Westwood Road
	Medford MA 02155 

	{since this is my last week connected with the net and I doubt I'd 
	ever be able to contact everyone who I have had some correspondence 
	with in this forum...}
From: makelley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Skinny Puppy )
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: new order live
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:24:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <asuccop.714021745@milton> asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop) writes:
>
>	i was listening to my (commercially bought) new order bbc live
>	tape, & b/w 'bizarre love triangle' and 'perfect kiss', one of
>	the boys (barney?) says something like 'thank you... have you
>	noticed all of our songs end in a big way?  loud noises...
>	small dicks' & then goes into the next song.
>
>	i had never really listened to the tape carefully enough
>	to notice this before, & was amused.
>
>	annemarie
>	asuccop@u.washington.edu


I used to have a tape of a live concert of theirs that was played on
the local radio station.........before "way of life" he messes with
his guitar and then says "all right motherfuckers, this is way of
life".
then on blue monday, instead of "if it wasn't for your
misfortune..."
he sings: "if it wasn't for your BIG COCK....."



makelley@ucsd.edu
kelleym@sdsc.edu
From: fsjdh@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: live version "the forest" (was cure thread)
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:22:44 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <2040@deadmin.ucsd.edu>, lynn@ft1.ucsd.edu (Lynn Gottesman) writes:
> Many of you mentioned that the live version of "the forest" is among your  
> favorite cure songs.  I just wanted to point out another awesome live version  
> of "the forest" on the concert video "cure in orange".  I think it is better  
> than the recording on the concert album ("the forest" is my favorite cure  
> song).  I used the audio out on my VCR to make a audio tape of sound part of  
> the video.  The sound quality of the tape is fair, but the music is GREAT.  It  
> is my favorite cure recording.  There are also great versions of "push","100  
> years", "faith" (totally awesome) and "10:15 saturday night", on the video,  
> just to name a few.   Just thought I'd pass this on to the other "forest" and  
> cure enthusiasts out there.
> 

> Lynn

I haven't listend to the Cure in quite some time (used to be an avid collector
of bootleggs and rare recordings), but I seem to remember that the live
recording of "A FOREST" on the flip side of the single for " A HUNDRED YEARS"
(a 10'' single released on Fiction) was the best one out of the 10 or so live
versions I had of that song. The live version of "KILLING AN ARAB" on that
single is also very good.

Joe Don H.
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From: craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Stace)
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:08:17 GMT

mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola) writes:


>	Does nobody wish to express their love for _Gordon_?


>				JiM

I DO!  I DO!  ME, TOO, PLEASE!

What a great album.  I've been listening to it constantly.  What great musicians
and writers!  Some of those musical lines are just great!

"STYX!  Domo arigoto, Mr. Roboto."

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From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: DRUM/PERCUSSION MAILING LIST
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:50:29 GMT


ATTENTION ALL DRUMMERS, PERCUSSIONISTS, OR THOSE
INTERESTED IN THAT SORT.
-------------------------------------------------

About a month ago I started the Drum/Percussion 
mailing list (an email distribution list/discussion
group).  If you would like to become a subscriber,
please send me a message with SUBSCRIBE as the
subject and include your _email_ address in the body
of the letter.  Send subscription requests to:
drum-request@elof.iit.edu

We look forward to seeing you there!

Jason Boardman 
drum-request@elof.iit.edu

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From: stitzel@lenti.med.umn.edu (Joel Stitzel (Med))
Subject: Re: Breeders
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:59:16 GMT

In article <dos105-120892163322@150.203.49.35> dos105@rsphy2.anu.edu.au (Darren O'Shaughnessy) writes:
>>
>> Just got the new Breeders four-song EP "Safari." Lemme tell ya, it was some
>> mighty good stuff.  I've gotten a bit tired of the Pixies of late, so I was
>> happy to hear that Kim sounds more like the Pixies first three albums than
>> the Pixies do.  Any chance that they might, um, er, tour?  Maybe?
>>
>> Brother Robert
>
>    Safari? The first and last tracks aren't much more than standard
>fairy-floss, but the other two blew me away. Try playing "Don't Call Home"
>at 100 dB and see if you don't cry (like I did) at the wailing beauty of
>it.

_Standard fairy-floss_?!?!  Yow.  Granted, "So Sad About Us" is a fairly
straightforward run-through, but the song's a classic.  "Do You Love Me Now?",
though, is probably my favorite Breeders' song (so far).  It sounds to me like
Journey's "Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'" and the Beatles' "I Am the Walrus"
threaded through each other like the different toothpastes in Aqua-Fresh, making
something beautiful and strange.  The other two songs are swell, too.  I love
this band!

BTW:  Howdy, Robert!

Joey