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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:44:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.185012.22599@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.160346.4454@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>>   <NFC East ramblings deleted>
>>>>|> 	the second best defensive line: GIANTS
>>>>Not any more.
>>>Name a team with a 3 man front thats better
>>
>>   How about Houston, KC, Seattle and Philly to start with.
>>
>>   --salty
>the Eagles have a 4 man front
    
    oops, for some reason I was just thinking DLs. I think Seattle also
    uses a four-man front.

>but based on the teams (other than the Eagles) you mentioned above:
>	which one have a probowl center ?
>	which of the 2 DE (in their 3-man front) has the 
>	most sacks in the last 5 years ?
>	which (again in the 3-man front) has the best run 
>	defense in the last 5 years.
>>
     With Millard, Kennedy, Green and Woods Seattle should be fine.
     Although the Giants may have the statistical leaders over the
     past few years, I think they're topping out or in decline. Both
     the Oilers and Chief's lines are up-and-coming IMO. Not that the
     Giants suck or anything, I just think that all these teams are
     pretty much in the same neighborhood in effectiveness.

     --salty

>
>
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Rams RB?
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:30:12 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


   Does anyone know who will be the Ram's starting running back? I thought
   Marcus Dupree looked pretty good against the Pack two weeks ago, but I
   guess he wasn't the answer.

   --salty
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From: bsmith@serverx.osf.org (Bruce Smith)
Subject: Re: Hurricane Andrew affect on Miami home opener??
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:31:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.130806.21369@linus.mitre.org> brian@elara.mitre.org (Brian Toothman) writes:
>It is almost a done deal that the Patriots and Dolphins will switch home
>dates.  So this means that it will be Miami at New England on the 6th of
>September and New England at Miami on th 27th of December.  This
>makes since anyways regarding the cold weather in Boston.
>-- 

The Boston Globe reported this morning that a decision on this is expected
today or tomorrow. There is a question whether the Foxboro Stadium turf can be
restored to game condition by September 6, the date of the game. The field is
currently unplayable after 3 days of U2 concerts that ended Sunday. The Patriots
home opener had been scheduled for Sept. 20, and the team was planning to use
that time to repair the expected damage. Although the Patriots state they will
do what seems best, the switch would mean their ending the season with 3
consecutive road games -- KC, Cincinnati,and Miami. 

Bruce Smith
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Subject: American Football and Rugby league.
From: roberts@dme.nt.gov.au (roberts@dme.nt.gov.au)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:46:17 +0900H
Reply-To: roberts@dme.nt.gov.au
Distribution: world
Organization: Northern Territory Department of Mines & Energy

 	Is Rugby League played in the U.S at all? And i was curious as to what followers of American Football thought of it. Rugby League is considered in Australia
to be the toughest form of football,is that how Americans see there code?
I'm just curious.

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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Lions trade rumor (sort of)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:57:30 GMT

In article <BASKINS.92Aug28123523@csd475a.erim.org>, baskins@csd475a.erim.org (Bob Baskins) writes:
> Read in the Free Press yesterday an interesting trade rumor involving
> the Lions.  The paper claimed that the Eagles offered Keith Jackson
> to the Lions for Jerry Ball.  Ball heard about the rumor, and jokingly
> asked Wayne Fontes about it.  Fontes replied that it would have to
> be a package deal, bacause he (Fontes) would go with him (Ball).
> The offer from Philly seemed to be genuine, but the paper made it sound
> as if nobody from the Lions took it too seriously.  Although, Ball's
> contract is coming up again next year...

I haven't heard any rumors out of Philly about the Eagles attempting to
trade Keith Jackson.  But it really wouldn't surpise me because KJ and
the Eagles management are having, had have, and will continute to have
ill feelings towards each other.  The problem I see with the rumored
deal is that KJ is a holdout and would have to be signed before being
traded.  And he is demanding an awful lot of money, somewhere close to
$1.6M per year.  IMO, KJ would be a perfect match for the Lions offense,
but I would like rather see him remain in Philly.


Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Buccaneer Update
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:54:06 GMT

Today the Bucs announced the signing of holdout CB Ricky Reynolds
to a 2-year, $1,500,000.00 deal.  Ricky, stating that he "knew he
had to get in there," expressed happiness in a deal being struck.
Typically, defensive coordinator,  Floyd Peters,  had a number of
quotable comments to make about the signing.  Saying,  "I hope he
got everything he wanted,  but I'd like  to kick him  in the butt
for missing all that time,"  and  "they all  think they work out,
they run laps and they backpedal and they cover their girlfriends."
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From: drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Subject: Re: Raiders fan club or maling list?
Reply-To: drhall1@PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:53:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.024018.22616@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mreese@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Reese) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.133112.18298@ncsu.edu> Sanjeev Banerjia writes:
>>
>>Is there a Raiders' fan club or mailing list?  I'd appreciate any info
>>available.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Sanjeev
>
>
>Me too.  Thanks in advance.A
Me three. :)


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From: behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: Dave Krieg (was Re: KC - halftime)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:38:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.191251.24837@lsil.com> miller@lsil.com writes:

>Well I know Dave Krieg, being in the AFC-WEST when he played for Seattle, has played in Arrowhead before.  I do not know how many where in cold weather but I'm sure there had to be a few.  Do you or anybody have his record for Arrowhead when he was with Seattle? 

I don't have his exact records from Arrowhead, but I remember his passes to
Deron Cherry.  Deron got at least one interception off of Krieg 2-3 or maybe
even 3-4 seasons in a row...

>Also I'm pretty sure he played his college ball somewhere in Wisconsin which must be just as cold.  The only problem I haveseen with Krieg thru the years is with his fumbling, which he seems to be able to do in any climate. 

He played for Milton College (which doesn't exist any more) in Wisconsin.


Behzad
From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Giants update
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:28:17 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

In article <1055@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> (Larry Simmons) writes:
>
>Holdouts:
>            Howard is getting close to terms with the Giants and is expected
>            to be signed this week.

Erik Howard just signed a 3 year deal (8/26/92). Moore is the last holdout.
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From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: Redskins Suck!
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:16:43 GMT

From article <1992Sep2.151123.1644@PacBell.COM>, by jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria):
> In article <78905@ut-emx.uucp> drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann) writes:
>>>Wrongo. Just because a team does well or poorly in the pre-season does _not_
>>>neccesarily mean that they'll be sucessful in the regular season. To
>>>wit:
>>>
>>>Team (w/ year)       Pre-season record      Regular season (playoff results)
>>>
>>>'72 NY Giants (*)      6-0                   2-12
>>>'85 Chicago Bears      1-3                   15-1 (won super bowl)
>>
>>And don't forget the '89 Cowboys that went undefeated in preseason but 1-15 in
>>the regular season.  Preseason means nothing.  The real deal starts Sunday.
>>
>>And the Oilers will start their march toward the Super Bowl...
>>
>>GO OILERS
>>GO JETS
>>-- 
> I agree with your summation that preseason statistics do not indicate
> greatness or lack of it during the regular season.  If my memory serves
> me right, the Red Skins were 0-4 in '82 and went on to win the SB.
> 
> I beg to differ with you slightly though in your prediction that the
> Oilers will start their march toward the SB.  ALL the teams will
> start their march toward that goal.  However, the Oilers will not make
> it their, sorry.
  ^^^^^^^^

Will not make it their what?  Could it be, "However, the Oilers will not
make it their <goal>, sorry."...or maybe "However, the Oilers will not
make it there, sorry."

> 
> 
> -- 
>         ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>  		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
> 	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: NFC Central (was Re: 1992 Forecast)
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.180051.21120@fang.att.com> bcd@fang.att.com (Brendan Dwyer) writes:
>I agree with you Leo and I think people will be surprised by the Bucs
>defense this year.  I wouldn't be surprised if they were ranked in the top
>five.  The offense needs a lot more work and I don't think Testaverde
>or DeBerg will shine with an offensive line that provides no protection.

Well, I believe the defense will be solid, but there is still enough work
to do there that,  though I believe Floyd's streak of never having a team
finish lower than 15th  in the NFL is not in real danger,  I don't see us
as an elite defensive unit yet.  I, however believe that Sam's offense is
going to be one of the NFC's most prolific before season's end, and I be-
lieve that Vinny is going to play well.  Time will tell.
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|ph: (813) 530-8425   |  a mind are terrible  | P.O. Box 2826, LG-132,|
|lej@pdn.paradyne.com |  things to waste."    | Largo, FL 34649 (USA) |
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: FFL TEAM LIST!!!!!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:41:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah

In article <1992Aug27.151217.21992@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:


Hey, Darrell, as a member of this league, let's move the posts on it over to 
rec.sport.football.misc. okay?


>  Sorry, I am so late, but I had to get ready for New Jersey!

>    
>                              1992 FFL STANDINGS
>                          
>                                                                          
>          PWC                   W   L   T   Off   Def   Total      

>   Northwest Division
>   ------------------
>   Colorado Avalanche
>   Salt Lake Pioneers = Jeff Jonsson <jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu>
>
>-- 
>delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
==============================================================================
--"It's the sound of the secret--  jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
-- machinery at the center of  --  jjonsson@utahlib.bitnet
-- the world." -Cliff Steele   --  "You talkin' to me?"
From: correa@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Fantasy vs. Reality
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:01:44 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University


FANTASY:

Joe Montana is back, the greatest QB ever has return to take the 
49ers to yet another superbowl victory. Sit down Bono and Young
go find a cold spot on the bench and warm it up.


Reality:

Joe Montana is on the DL, will miss at least the first four games.
Young has been named the starting QB(go figure) and Bono backup. He is
now complaining about being on the DL and wants out of his contract 
with the 9ers by the end of the regular season.


Face it. It's over. If he keeps complaining, Policy is likely to 
trade him and end the QB contraversy.

Silver&Black
"Joe is outa here"
From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Elway's backup?
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:24:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug21.213616.17124@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
>Just my 2c again...to say that Moore is basically a rookie is not really
>accurate.  I mean, Kubiak didn't play much more than Moore has, but no one
>said we had a rookie backup with him on the team.  Moore was with the team
>all last year and was on a world league team all summer.  True, he doesn't
>have a lot of regular-season playing time, but neither did Kubiak.  Moore
>has proved he does not play like a rookie.

Sean Moore played this spring in the World League for the Birmingham Fire. How-
ever, he was almost never used, as the Fire opted for Mike Norseth as starter.
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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: ESPN - Young - Bono
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:08:24 GMT
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

In article <0095FC40.3E55BAC0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>
>Last night in their breakdown segment ESPN made an
>interesting comparison between Steve & Steve.
>There was a remark that the players 'liked Young
>more than Bono' .

This must be a misquote. Or you're getting your Steve's mixed up. Or ESPN
hasn't been paying attention. Whatever the case, the fact is that the
49ers like having Bono at QB more than they like having Young at QB.
Whether it's because Young is left-handed, whether it's because he's
less predictable, who knows; the fact is the 49ers look more comfortable
and score more points with Bono in the game. That's not to say that Bono
is necessarily a "better" or "more talented" QB, than young, just that
he has a better "bottom line", i.e., he gets the job done better than
Young, at least in the 49ers' system.

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From: baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Rosters
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:55:30 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug27.163755.23688@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, richs@sulu.lerc.nasa.gov (Rich Schlegelmilch) writes:
> I am looking for roosters for both offsense and defense, for the entire
                   ^^^^^^^^
> league.  Can anyone email them to me or tell me if the are available
> via anonymous ftp (preferred).  My fantasy football draft is soon.
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> email address richs@sulu.lerc.nasa.gov
> 
> --
> Rich Schlegelmilch                   |   richs@sulu.lerc.nasa.gov
> MS 54-8			             |   
> NASA Lewis Research Center           |    
> Cleveland, OH 44135                  |   (216) 433-3428 


What will the boys at NASA think of next.  Barnyard animals playing football!!! 
You know, this would be answer for the skyrocketing payrolls.


Bill B.
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From: blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum)
Subject: Cowboys - More Haley info.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:12:19 GMT

Here's some more tidbits about Charles Haley I just 
found out.  I just spoke to Ann Killion who wrote
one of the articles I posted this morning from 
the SJ Mercury News.

She says that a football player should be judged 
from what he does on the field, that we are talking
about the NFL here, not the Boy Scouts.  She thinks
that the 49ers are stupid to pull this trade and 
that the Cowboys may be in the playoffs this year
and the 49ers may not because of this.  Although he 
is a good player, I think that his personality could 
disrupt the team.She says that maybe a change of scenery 
is all he needs and that he could be happy with the 
Cowboys.

I think that if a player is that good, he should be
a team leader.  I think a team leader should set a 
good example for the team and should be an individual 
that is liked and looked up to by the team.  Well Haley
is an as*h*le.  Here is a personality profile, and in 
no means should this really be important to how he is
as a player.  This info. merely should help you form 
a preliminary opinion on how he will affect the Cowboys 
on the field, off the field, and in the locker room:

1)Haley has an erratic personality.  Many have questioned
  whether it is actually a medical problem or not, such 
  as a personality disorder.  A rumor is that he has
  been diagnosed as a manic depressive.

2)He loses his temper very easily.  (which is very good 
  on the field)

3)He has gotten into numerous fights with his teammates.
  One example is on the night before the superbowl (3?) 
  years ago.  He got into a brawl with Jim Burt in the hotel.
  Talk about disrupting team unity at a critical moment!
  Then there was the locker room incident after the Raiders
  game.  Ronnie Lott was his closest friend and after he 
  left Haley was unhappy.  His current teammates hate him 
  and think he is a jerk.  

4)There is the racism issue.  Haley is known to think about
  things only in terms of black and white.  There are no 
  in betweens.  This could divide a team if he really is like
  this.

5)It has been rumored that he has had violent and heated problems
  with his wife.

6)He hated California, originally from the south and from W. 
  Virginia, he may feel more happy in Texas.

Again these personality traits are not my opinion.  They may be
rumor so take it with a grain of salt.  I am not questioning
JJ's trade, it probably is a good one and WILL help the cowboys.
However, Haley's personality is something all of us Cowboy fans
should know about and think about.  

Question:  The Cowboys are a pretty unified team.  As I understand
it they all get along.  How many jerks can you name on the team?

Go Cowboys!!
Darren
From: Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Best RB
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:32:28 GMT
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

Who is the best running back in the NFL?

Some people would say Thurman Thomas because of his great
ability to run & recieve.  

Some people would say Barry Sanders because of his sweet
moves that make oppenents tackle air.  He hasn't been
able to prove himself recieving yet.  This season will
be his chance.

Some people would say Emmit Smith because...well, I have
no idea.  Maybe because he won the rushing title by few
yards?  True, but Thomas played one less game than him.
And Sanders had ALOT fewer rushes.

Here's my oppinion:

1.  Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas - A tie!
2.  Emmit Smith
3.  ?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:55:23 GMT
Keywords: Satellite

In article <1992Aug25.180202.11797@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>, jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander) writes:
> Okay...I haved lurked here and watched this argument.  These NFC easters are 
> football SNOBS!!  No most people don't like or care to watch your boring 
> teams, I don't care how many Super Bowls they've won...that's stupid anyway.
> Super Hype Toilet Bowl is more like it.

Boring?  Ok, maybe the Giants offensive style, but that's the only boring
thing in the division.  The NFC East features some of the best defenses
in the NFL led by the always entertaining Eagles' Gang Green.  And you
call the 'Posse boring?  Emmitt Smith?  Michael Irvin?  The NFL One-man
Highlight film, Randall Cunningham boring?  Go back to lurking if you're
going to post such nonsense!


Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins News - 8/26/92
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:10:58 GMT

Hi, i was a question regarding the redskins..

How many tight ends are the Redskins keeping on their roster this year?

Thanks

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