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From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: small nipple...placement o' pierce?
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:00:21 GMT

bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>Has anyone else had their nipples pierced outside of the nipple area because
>they have small nipples?

I have fairly small nipples so when I tried to get mine pierced
the person doing it gave me a hard time.  She refused to pierce
"behind" the nipple and insisted that I use a smaller gauge ring
and put it directly through.

She installed a 14 gauge ring.  I waited a few days then slipped
a 12 gauge in with no problem.

I prefer the way mine looks to the "behind" method.  Several of
my friends have their's done deep and I don't really like the
way it looks.

---
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From: dancer@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: fresh piercing and intercourse
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:20:34 -0500
Distribution: rec
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <LUTZEB.93Jan8225427@flp.cs.tu-berlin.de>, 
lutzeb@cs.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Lutzebaeck) writes:
> I read the FAQ but the following question is still unanswered to me:
> how long does it take before you can have regular intercourse or
> masturbate with your SO after getting pierced
> 
> (a) through the foreskin?

Can't help you here.

> (b) through the labia?

I felt comfortable to utilyze the bath tub for self pleasure about 2 weeks 
after the piercing. Took me another week to try the vibrator and about a
month or so before sex. No problems at all.

Hope this helps.

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From: talarico@rodan.acs.syr.edu (John F. Talarico)
Subject: GIF's
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:30:20 EST


Would anyone be willing to post some cool tatt Gif's?  I'd be interested in seeing some designs.  In case anyone is wondering, I still haven't gotten my first.  I've decided to design my own, but don't know if many tatt artists are willing to work with me (I *AM* technically an artist myself - Ad. Art directorr  of
a local newspaper).  Would they prefer total freedom?  What is the process of transferring MY design to my skin?

Thanx,
JT
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From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Re: fresh piercing and intercourse
Originator: elf@halcyon.com
Organization: Pendor, UnLtd.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:19:08 GMT

In article <LUTZEB.93Jan8225427@flp.cs.tu-berlin.de>
     lutzeb@cs.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Lutzebaeck) writes:

>How long does it take before you can have regular intercourse or
>masturbate with your SO after getting pierced

>(a) through the foreskin?

   About a year ago a friend of mine got a twelve-guage barbell frenum
(i.e. through the skin along the underside of the penis, directly
behind the head).  It was a small peircing, relatively simple... and
for three months (as you said) he complained every day about how he
wasn't able to masturbate or anything else.

   About six months ago I got the same peircing, only instead of a
barbell I bought a 3/4" diameter ring, so I've got a real dangly peice
of jewelry there.  When I got home from the peircing, I took a shower
and cleaned myself with Hibiclens (antibacterial soap), and then, just
to prove my friend was an idiot, I masturbated.

   It ached a little, and was tender for a while afterwards, but
nothing "bad" ever came of it.  It probably took a little longer to
heal, but using condoms and lube judiciously I never had a problem with
it and my wife and I had intercourse pretty regularly during the three
months it took to completely clear up the peircing.

         Elf !!!  (your mileage may vary)
--
elf@halcyon.com  (Elf Sternberg)

Then, I was inspired.               God, thy will is hard
Now, I'm sad and tired.             But you hold every card.
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Expectations.                       Nail me to your cross and break me.
Tried for three years,              Bleed me, beat me.
Seems like thirty.                  Kill me.
Could you ask as much               Take me now.
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From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: home piercing...
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:30:59 GMT

In article <C0J31q.D9A@fulcrum.co.uk> rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>See the sequel film to Manon des Sources (forgotten it's name, tch)
>for home nipple piercing. I won't be doing it for a while.... :-)

Oops - Manon des Source *is* the sequel, to Jean de Florette.



Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
"All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power"  A. Brilliant
============================================================================
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Piercing being "trendy"...
Date: 13 Jan 1993 04:17:53 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <C0rxLy.CxC@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> magenta@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Leilah Thiel) writes:
>In article <11887@arccs1.fed.FRB.GOV> m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov (Bruce F. Gilsen) writes:
>>"Now, from the people who brought you temporary tattoos, it's clip-on
>>body piercings!  Amaze your friends and lovers!"
>it's already happened.  ever seen magnetic earrings?  they hold quite nicely 
>through a nose.
Yeah, and the Miller's Outpost store chain hereabouts sells single magnetic
earrings and non-pierced hoop earrings.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can talk all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
From: dprosser@titan.ucs.umass.edu (dp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Piercing being "trendy"...
Date: 12 Jan 1993 23:56:58 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
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In article <11887@arccs1.fed.FRB.GOV> m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov (Bruce F. Gilsen) 
writes:
>In my opinion, piercing won't really be "trendy" until we start seeing
>ads like the following:
>"Now, from the people who brought you temporary tattoos, it's clip-on
>body piercings!  Amaze your friends and lovers!"
>Bruce   m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov

	Actually, these DO exist --- at least for nipples.  In _Modern_
_Primitives_, they mention an ad for clip-on nipple rings, supposedly
in some national women's mag.
	On a related note,  after I had to remove my first nostril pierce
due to infection, my wife and a friend tried to convince me to try a 
magnetic type of earring instead:  it is a  3/4-ring with a magnet that
goes on the back of the ear (or the inside of the nostril).  I didn't go
for it -- it's hard to convey to those not drawn to body-mods that it's
not just the ``look'' of piercing that I'm interested in.  I know it sounds
cliche'd, but the experience of getting pierced is just as important.
Anyone who does this sort of mock piercing as an attempt to be trendy
 just doesn't GET it. :-)
						dp

P.S.  About getting a second larger ring around a nipple ring,  I'm
glad to find someone else who's considering it.  Still haven't decided
if I want to or even if it's possible.  When I see Victoria again, I'll
ask her.
 
-- 
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	Midnight showers, sleep in the flowers, and dream hurricane, 
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From: tom@cpac.washington.edu (Tom May)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: good news and bad news...help!
Date: 08 Jan 93 06:09:42 GMT
Organization: Center for Process Analytical Chemistry, UW
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In-reply-to: clc@nevada.edu's message of Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:48:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.234848.10912@nevada.edu> clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:

   So, what sizes are popular out there in net.land?

My nipple ring is 1/2" ID (more like 9/16" ID with the bead installed).  I
think a smaller one would actually look nicer, but the piercing itself is
3/8" across.  What would be really cool is a 3/8" ring with a second,
larger ring behind or above it in a separate piercing.  Anybody done
anything like this?
--
Tom
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: good news and bad news...help!
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 09:42:16 EST
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

> I did it!  My left nipple is now adorned with a 14g circular barbell.  It's
> healing beautifully.

Congrats! Hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine.

> I love it and think it's absolutely beautiful.  However, I've been having
> graphic nightmares of my rig getting ripped out or sawing itself out of 
> my nipple.  Has anyone else experienced this with a piercing?  I think it's
> because I have this new thing hanging off a sensitive part of my body.

Normal instinct, but doon't worry, you'll be fine. I simply take the
precaution of wearing a shirt when I'm going to lift something that
might get caught on 'em. (Or, I take them out, since I've had them for
several years.)

Having a 3-month-old daughter who has just started grabbing at anything
bright and shiny makes things interesting, to say the least; last night,
my wife heard me yammering from another room "Hey! Let go of that!
OW!OW!OW!" - first time she grabbed not one, but both rings at the same
time!

I'm sure it's happened, but not to anybody I personally know (and I have
several friends who have nipple piercings). Closest is a woman friend of
mine who got her finger caught in a ring while trying to grab something
that was falling. Painful, but no damage.

> All non-sexist non-anti-body art advice is welcome.

Anti-body art? I could make some nice paintings with lymphocytes, I
suppose... :)

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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Ark.... Nipples & Size
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:03:04 GMT

an827@anon.penet.fi writes:

  [brief description of long, hard road taken deleted]

>Right.  I have decided to, at some point, get my nipples pierced.  Within
>the comming years I hope I will be able to go on hormones, and therefore
>begin to grow breasts.  One of the main complaints from other transsexuals
>with the results of the hormones is the poor size increase of the nipples.
>It occured to me that I could combine my great want/fetish with a small
>problem here.... and see if I could increase my nipple size with having them
>pierced.  I appeal to the wide spread of knowledge on rec.arts.bodyart
>for advice on whether it would be best to get the piercings before going on
>hormones, or afterwards when they have finished growing?  One concern
>is that I am told that the nipples can get quite sore during the breast
>growth.....

Well, I can't imagine the nipple size change being fast enough for a hole to
cause any extra problems.  My nipple peirce has been fairly inert WRT sensation
changes.  I can imagine that getting the nipple peirce healed up well before
the hormones would be advisable, and that additional sensitivity of the
nipples during growth might make healing new holes harder if the peirce comes
after the hormones.  Might as well enjoy the rings sooner rather than later,
sounds like you could do with some happiness.  
Women with peirced nipples through breast growth / pregnancy probably have 
much better info than I do, just thought I'd add  my 2c.

Good luck with it all.

-- 
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Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  | Q: Huh?                                             |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
From: dprosser@titan.ucs.umass.edu (dp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: hibiclens and reactions
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:45:05 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
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From: ruthc@sco.COM (Ruth Colby)
>I got my labia pierced on new year's eve.  since then, I used hibiclens
>twice a day, sometimes three, up until two days ago.  it seems that it
>is so good at killing bacteria & other microorganisms that the normal
>flora & fauna living in my vagina got out of balance & gave me a yeast
>infection.
>I've stopped using hibiclens & am treating the infection.  things seem
>fine.
>-r

 and From: hjanules@hamp.hampshire.edu
>	from what i hear about hybiclens, it sounds kind of harsh.  
>	maybe in the future, you might want to try a different cleaning
>schedule and different anti-bacteriants (is that a word?)
 
	Agreed.  On my second attempt at a nostril pierce, I was told to
use Hibiclens instead of povidone iodine (because I switched to 14 Kt. gold
from stainless:  the iodine tarnishes gold.  I think this is the only reason
to use Hibiclens instead of povidone iodine).  I immediately started having
problems.  At first, I thought it was another infection, but I noticed that
it wasn't getting streaked red or discharging at all, nor was it getting hot.
Instead it looked like an allergic reaction.  I knew it wasn't because of the
gold -- I've worn it for years.  I stopped using the hibiclens and the reaction
stopped.
	Just in case anyone is interested, I sorta improvised my own cleaning
routine:  Twice a day I swabbed it with hydrogen peroxide, rinsed it and
coated it inside and out with triple antibiotic ointment.  Then, once a day
I heated up a cup of water with a teaspoon of Epsom salt and applied it with
a washcloth for about 15 - 20 minutes.  This worked quickly:  it was fully
healed within two weeks.   (BUT, be sure not to get the Epsom salt solution
in contact with mucous membranes like the inside of the nose.  It
seems to make them dry and irritated --I found out the hard way with a 
wicked itchy nose for a few days).  Hope this is helps.

						dp


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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: good news and bad news...help!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:02:40 GMT

clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:
>manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz) writes:
>>clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:
>>
>>Nonsense.  Mine is 1.5" and I've never had a problem.  I'm not a
>>motionless sleeper either.  

>Brett, you size queen, we're talking about nipple rings!  ;-)

>I guess wearing a ring that large could be handy--it's always
>nice to have a spare napkin ring hanging around.  ;-)

>So, what sizes are popular out there in net.land?

I think my 7/8" id is about ideal nipple hardware,
-- 
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Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  | Q: Huh?                                             |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
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From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: ampallang question...
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:38:48


Well, I've had mine for a year and 9 months, and it *still* gunks/is
damp.

What's worse, is I suspect that it's growing out.  (Either that, or my
penis shrank when I left Texas.)  The barbell balls were flush against
the glans 9 months ago (I sized down my jewelry after 9 months), and
now there's about 1/8" or so total gap.

Assuming it's growing out, any ideas on how to prevent it from growing
out further?  I've got stainless in now, would going to gold help?

thx.

--
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"It is the cunning of form to veil itself continually in the evidence
of content.  It is the cunning of the code to veil itself and to produce
itself in the obviousness of value." -- Baudrillard
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From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: piercings and intercourse
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:51:23 GMT

<GMG7@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I've been thinking about a genital pierce and about trying to talk my SO into
>one also.  Before I do I was wondering what kind of sensual results to expect
>from a pierce in myself/SO and what he could expect to get out of a pierce.

First, My Prince Albert has increased the sensitivity of the area
around the piercing.  Now that's it's totally healed, any movement
of the ring(s) causes a wonderful sensation.  I think it's restored
some of the sensitivity lost through circumcision.

Second, really heavy rings (7/8, 6ga) or small padlocks create a
pulling sensation that's enjoyable.

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
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From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Tattoos and such...
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:51:46 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

[injury causes reaction/itching in the tat]

Sounds really familiar.  I don't know why this happens,
though.  I have a nice sweetpea on my ankle, which was all
fine and dandy---until I got a mosquito bite on top of it.
That was six months ago, and the damned thing still hasn't
stopped itching/completely healed.  The black lines seem to be
the worst.  I've tried almost everything.  Honey-based
handlotion seems to be the best, and it has actually been
healing since I started using it, a month ago.  It still looks
kind of thickened and scaley in places, though.  This is on a
two-year-old tat, by the way.

I wonder if it's something to do with the inked skin cells
rupturing or something.
--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"Every now and then, a big rock falls out of the sky, and everyone has 
a *very bad* day."  --from the PBS "Dinosaurs" special.
From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: SF tatoos
Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:09:44 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
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In article <726480502.0@wyrm.rbbs-net.ORG> Barry.Kapke@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Barry Kapke) writes:
>
>Shop: Erno Tattoo  252 Fillmore, SF. CA  94117  (415)861-9206
>      Walk-ins welcome, but appointments are a *good* idea.


	While there are some good artists who work here, and who have
	worked here, this places also produces some *awful* tattoos.

	So be careful. Make sure you know who's working on you, and don't 
	just do a walk in.

>         *Jaime Trujillo (more traditional stuff.  Good artist).


	This guy is really uneven; I've seen some really cool stuff of
	his, but also some terrible stuff. In fact, I think he's best
	at blackwork.


>anythig out, please let me know.  I wanted to go to Tattoo City, but
>couldn't get in--I'm dying to try Eddie Deutsch's work

	A word of caution about Eddie; he has a tendancy to do
	work HIS way, rather than YOUR way. SO if you want HIS art,
	or HIS version of your art, he's *great*. But if you're picky
	about EXACT details, I would suggest you not work with him.



			-Karl
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From: dionne@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Dionne E Nelson)
Subject: Re: Bajoran noses
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:27:37 GMT

In article <726566902.0@wyrm.rbbs-net.ORG> Barry.Kapke@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Barry Kapke) writes:
>Hello All!
>
>Does anyone besides me find Bajoran noses incredibly sexy? Both Ensign Ro (from STTNG) and First Officer Kira Nerys (from DS9) certainly captivate my aesthetic sense. Ancient Mayans cultivated an aesthetic modification of the nose/ forehead. I wonder if it would require much to sculpt a Bajoran nose. ;)
>
>Barry                   :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

I think Bajoran noses are kind of cute, but I what I really like is thier 
earrings. Any place in the mid-west where I can buy some like that?
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Discovery Channels' Tattoo program
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:23:08 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <C0qu7G.81F@wang.com> fredj@wang.com (Fast Freddie) writes:
>	Did anyone see the Discovery Channels' "Writings of the soul".  It
>was about the history of Tattooing, and showed some tattoo shops on the
>"West Coast" in the late 60's or early 70's (guess).  

"Signatures of the Soul".  I would say it came out in the late 70's/early
80's, because of all the references to "punkers", and because of the way
the "punkers" looked.  Ed Hardy looked *really* young, though.  All in all a 
good special, although I got a little tired of Peter Fonda telling us all 
about *his* tattoos.  I wonder if any more of these shows exist, and what it 
would take to get Discovery to show them.


-- 
Ray Shea                                      
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