HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rayz@koko.csustan.edu (Ray Zarling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:24:46 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <8ZSds*L-1@light.fipnet.fi> terje@light.fipnet.fi (Terje Bergstrvm) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.173839.15356@koko.csustan.edu>, Ray Zarling writes:
>
>> Are you sure you are running version 2.1?  I use "&" all the time; with
>> external commands, built-ins, aliases, pipes...  It works flawlessly.
>
>  Yes, I'm sure since I didn't have any previous version in my hard disk
>and SKsh reported that it is 2.1.

Well, the only thing I can think is that there is something about your
setup.  Maybe your options are set differently than mine; I use

	options -e +I +P +w +i +r

This is on a variety of machines from 1000's to 3000's, running AmigaDos
2.04 and 2.1.

--Ray Zarling
  rayz@csustan.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: zxmoa01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Otte)
Subject: Lha V2.00 ??
Keywords: WHEN !??!
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:38:40 GMT

First of all this post is not one of those "he stefan speed up" messies
I simply wanna know how works going on and if stefan will attempt
to get rid of all those hacked keyfiles ! There s even a fully working
Keyfilemaker . I post this here coz my mails only rarely use to
reach Stefan in sweden ! 
andy


     
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From: MPT@cup.portal.com (Michal P Todorovic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Re:ProPage 3.0 help!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 22:30:42 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>|> Warped?  When it comes to color printing using PPage and WB
>|> drivers, you'll quickly see that PPage is fine.  There are only
>|> two things that should get improved:  offsets and speed.
>
>No. Memory-handling is far from being perfect also. If I have 20 MB
>of RAM available, why the hell does ProPage print 62 strips and
>leaves 18 MB unused???
>
>Ottmar Roehrig
>

Its my understanding (and I could be completely wrong on this) is
that the number of strips that ProPage uses is directly proportional
to the number of boxes on the page.  At least, for me, it seems to
increase the number of strips proportionately to the number of boxes
I have.

---------------------

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Terra Nova Development   |
                         | 1. You can not get anything without
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                         | 2. The best you can ever hope for through
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 to Law and Order"       | 3. You can only break even at absolute
      J Edgar Hoover     |    zero.
From: johnh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (John J Humpal)
Subject: Re: Middle Mouse button for TM2.0 under 2.04
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:14:22 GMT

In article <42985@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jfriesne@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner!) writes:
>
>Is there any way to use the middle mouse button with
>ToolManager 2.0 under Workbench 2.04?  If not, are there
>any other commodity type things that will let me program
>the middle button?
>
>Specifically, I'd like to use it to switch screens
>(in the way that left amiga-m does)
>
	KCommodity might do this.  I don't have a 3-button mouse so I'm
not sure, but there is middle mouse button support in KCommodity.  You'll
find it on amiga.physik.unizh.ch and its mirrors.
-- 
-John

John J. Humpal -- johnh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu -- short .sig, std. disclaimer

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From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:00:28 GMT

Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter) writes:

>   Personally, I can't fathom why anyone would use a computer to do Home
>Finances. As Dave Barry said, you type in how much money you make and where
>you spend it, and (stay with me on this!) it tells you how much money you
>made and where you spent it. I use a calculator.

A calculator suffices for balancing your checkbook, but have you tried
keeping a ledger of your assets and liabilities, your income and your
expenses, and making the books balance each month?  Every month was a
terrible chore when I did this by hand.  Now that I use Desktop Budget, I
don't have to balance anything, and I can reconcile its records to external
reality whenever I want.

I'm not saying this is for everybody; obviously you have no use for it,
Lloyd.  But I for one want more complete and accurate records.
-- 
Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: driver for color scanner
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:41:18 GMT

HELP! Recently, I bought ScanPlus full page color scanner which is HP
ScanJet compatible. However, where can I find the color driver? Thanks
for advance.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: Small Business Package needed
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:44:48 GMT

In article <alfredo.0497@ajahnv.lonestar.org> alfredo@ajahnv.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn V) writes:
>My wife and I are thinking of starting a small Import/Export business.
>I've used Phasar for my personal finances but for a small company, I
>don't think something like Phasar will do the trick. 
>
>I am looking for a program that can do invoices, look up customer info,
>etc.  I guess an accounting package that can cross reference to a 
>database program could be set up to do that kind of thing...
>

For generally usage:

small business --- Business Front, Nimbus 1.4, Home Account 2
  big business --- B.E.S.T. 3.0, Accountant 2.0, Service Industry
                   Accounting 

For serious usage:

Buy an IBM PC or emulator or bridgeboard.
From: Ola_Engebretsen@anet.bbs.bad.se (Ola Engebretsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Wanted: Guitar chord database
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:03:40 GMT
Reply-To: Ola_Engebretsen@anet.bbs.bad.se (Ola Engebretsen)
Organization: ANet Development, Marsta, SWEDEN

I'm looking for a guitar chord database for the Amiga. I've seen a lot of this 
type of program for PC but I haven't seen a single one for the Amiga. If 
someone knows where I might get a hold of such a program please
let me know (by e-mail).
 
 Ola Engebretsen
 e-mail: Ola_Engebretsen@anet.bbs.bad.se

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
From: tonyc@gnome.amigans.gen.nz (Tony Christie)
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:43:46 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: The Gnomes Home
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter) writes:
> anything in the same league as Excel or Quattro. Also, don't expect to find
> "packages" for the Amiga programs (like you can for the MSDOS ones) that
> would set up your Home Finance stuff for you.

Not true. Phasar is actually an MS-DOS product that has been ported to the
Amiga (and Mac I think). It has to be one of the better home-budgeting tools
on a computer that I have seen, mainly because it is simple to use, and gives
me the info I want (or rather don't want).

[...personal opinion starts...]
Why anyone would want to use a spreadsheet to do home finances I can't fathom.
Don't get me wrong, I think spreadsheets are ok if there isn't anything that
does the job already, but they are a hell of a way to do anything complex.
Give me a "package" anyday. Its sort of like giving all computer users a
programming language with their machine and telling them to write their own
customised software, whereas most of them would much rather buy what they
want off the shelf (at the right price of course).
[...personal opinion ends...no flames intended or requested...]

--
 Tony Christie, Wanganui N.Z. // The person rowing normally doesn't have time
 tonyc@gnome.amigans.gen.nz \X/  to rock the boat.
From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Art Expression and font effects
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:14:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: sol.1992Dec27.151410.25470
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
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X-Posted-From: cs1.bradley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

What I want to know is how to get the damn thing to print colors right on
a dot matrix printer....  With an A500 and a Panasonic KXP-2123 running with
the EpsonQ driver, and printing, for example, some of the example pictures, 
the goddamn colors change in the middle of a large block of color (excuse the
language, but this kind of thing pisses me off....)

Also, sometimes AE will print the picture about three times, on top of itself,
offset by about 1/2-1 inch....

Finally, is there any way to get the usa.ps file from the post program to 
load into AE?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:26:19 GMT

> Michael Grom writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <gromyko.04nm@sputnik.rhein-main.de>
> Posted: 26 Dec 92 20:02:17 MED
>
> Org.  : private Amiga Site
>
> In article <18889@mindlink.bc.ca> Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd
> Sumpter) writes:
> >    You need a spreadsheet program. Unfortunately, the choices for Amiga
> [...deleted...]
> > anything in the same league as Excel or Quattro. Also, don't expect to
> find
> > "packages" for the Amiga programs (like you can for the MSDOS ones) that
> > would set up your Home Finance stuff for you.
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Not true. Look out for Desktop Budget. This shall suffice for
> home financing stuff. A pretty simple and cheap package.
>
> Regards,
>         Michael
>

    Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant programs that run "on top of" the
spreadsheet. These are very popular for Lotus 123 (and anything that runs
Lotus macros and functions) for home finance, taxes, etc.


--

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<semi-YAHOO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                    Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca
             "Amiga made it - Commodore screwed it up"
From: jonathan@cats.ucsc.edu (Jonathan Cano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Gnu emacs - help me ...
Date: 24 Dec 1992 03:47:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu
Keywords: Which emacs to use on my A2000


about 4 months ago I began using Gnu Emacs v18.58 at work.  After 
using it 5 days a week, 8 hours a day for 4 months I've come to
realize that this is the one TRUE editor :^).  Well maybe not but
emacs is pretty good.

I used to use QED (which is a great editor) on my amiga but, being 
a simpleton, I'm now finding it difficult switching between editors.
I tried using MEmacs (it comes with WB2.0) but it just doesn't cut it -
I need to be able to redefine all of the keys _including_ the default
bindings...

Anyways, I got ahold of a FAQ that lists a variety of different emacs
implementations and what machines these implementations run on but
I don't know which one to try.  I'm interested in hearing about what
version of emacs your running on your amiga (and how your amiga is
configured).

my minimum requirements for an implementation of emacs:
---------------------------------------------------------
I need to be able to use the same keymap as comes standard with 
Gnu emacs v18.58!
---------------------------------------------------------

Optional
----------  
If it doesn't have file completion (most likely) than it would be
nice to have the option of using a file requester.


My configuration
----------------------
A2000  (68000 cpu)
5 megs RAM
40 meg HD
----------------------

Ideally, I'd like to be able to FTP a working executable and not
have to bother with building it myself.

So how about it.

--Jonathan



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From: mrr@mrsoft.network23.com (Mark Rinfret)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: BackUP & ABackup (fish disks)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:30:22 GMT
 <1992Dec29.130250.10379@zds-oem.zds.com>
Organization: MRsoftware
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

In article <1992Dec29.130250.10379@zds-oem.zds.com>, Adam Benjamin writes:

> So what backup programs are out there that do this:
>  
> Support High density floppy drives (supporting a mix of high and low
>            disks would be great!)
> Runs under 3.0
> Is easy to use.

MRBackup Professional supports high density drives, though it requires a
single drive geometry to be used for a given backup. It runs under
AmigaDOS 1.3 through 3.0, sports a 3D GUI interface, extensive ARexx
support and is reasonably easy to use while offering a lot of features
and user-tunable options.


> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>    //   benjamin@zds-oem.zds.com  OR    af987@yfn.ysu.edu
>  \X/  Adam Benjamin          Insert snappy humor here
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
#
# Mark R. Rinfret                   MRsoftware
# Certified Amiga Developer         348 Indian Avenue
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# galaxia!mrsoft!mrr                (401) 846-7639
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: ProPage clips in PageStream 2.2HL
From: Twin-Peaks@fbi.amigans.gen.nz (Dale Cooper)
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:53:21 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Federal Bureau of Investigation (Twin Peaks)

I have recently seen a program called "Trace" off Professional Page v2.0
which converts IFFs into ProPage scalable clip-art and it seem to work
really well... BUT...

Whenever I load (import) the clips into PageStream 2.2HL as ProPage clips,
they work perfectly if I leave them the same size.  They look fine on the
screen and print out perfectly, but as soon as I tried to increase the size
of the clips, the screen version enlarged fine but when I tried to print
the b*tch out all I got was a BIG SQUARE BLACK BOX where the clip was.
This not only limits the clips visability but also wastes ink!  Does ANYONE
know what the problem is?

--
 Amiga500 (DCTV, HP550C, 28mHz 68040, 2400bps, WB2.04, 7MB RAM, 105MB HD)
    running Windows 3.1+ as a BACKGROUND TASK faster than a 25mHz 486!
 (pinch of salt required)  ** QUOTE OF THE DAY ** (pinch of salt required)
Reporter: "Sir, how do you justify producing a FALSE multi-tasking windows
              environment and calling it TRUE multi-tasking?"
   Designer: "Well most PC users don't even know what multi-tasking is!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
From: rayz@koko.csustan.edu (Ray Zarling)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 17:38:39 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <vcQcs*7W1@light.fipnet.fi> terje@light.fipnet.fi (Terje Bergstrm) writes:
>In article <alfredo.042p@ajahnv.lonestar.org>, Alfredo Jahn V writes:
>
>> Has anyone had problem with the "&" (background process)? I just installed
>> it (I also just installed OS 2.1, incase that makes any difference...).
>
>  I have. SKsh just seemed to ignore that character. :-o

Are you sure you are running version 2.1?  I use "&" all the time; with
external commands, built-ins, aliases, pipes...  It works flawlessly.

--Ray Zarling
  rayz@csustan.edu
From: sjk@ut-emx.uucp (Phil Alvin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: VirusZ
Keywords: reqtools.library version
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:31:06 GMT
Organization: Fred's Lounge


I recently downloaded VirusZ2.27 from some archive site only to
find it wanted a more recent version (38+) of the reqtools.library
than it came with.  Version reported the included version as being
V37.something.  When I run the program, I get a nifty little
requester saying VirusZ requires V38+ of the library. Where can I
find the more recent library (for 2.* ROMS)?

Thanks,
Scot
sjk@emx.cc.utexas.edu
sjk@astro.as.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: rossm@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (ross mark)
Subject: Re: PageLiner and BME Patches
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:55:47 GMT

In article <72101@cup.portal.com> soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson) writes:
>The uploaded patches are for the US version. Check the About box to
>see if it is the UK or US version. (It'll say UK for UK, and nothing for
>US.) We hope to have UK patches soon.
>
>Shipping may have sent you a US PageLiner, so that patch may have run OK,
>along with a UK BME. Stranger things have happened.
>
>Michael
>Soft-Logik
>
>
>Distribution:
>  INTERNET:soft-logik@cup.portal.com
>
>Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
>               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
>        SOFT-LOGIK BBS (PCP MOSLO) (314) 894-0057



Does this mean that there will be a patch release for the UK version
of PageStream? So far I have only seen them for the US version and
they don't work for me. I will be using both PageStream and  PageLiner
quite heavily in the next 6mths for my thesis and would like as stable
a platform as possible.

I can see PageStream going a long way and would like to keep up with it.

Ross
rossm@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au

--
Ross Mark    			| email rossm@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au
Computer Engineering	        |       rossm@cs.unsw.oz.au
4th Year                        |
University Of New South Wales   | (* the Amiga makes it possible *)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: umpistun@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Pistun)
Subject: PasTeX 1.3/TPP 4.00
Keywords: TeX
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:19:06 GMT

 
     I was just trying to get TPP working with PasTeX 1.3 and haven't
had any luck.  I installed PasTeX to the directory work:TeX.  I installed
TPP to the directory work:TPP.

     As instructed, I added the following to my User-startup:
        assign TeX: work:TeX            (for PasTeX)
        path TeX:bin add
        assign TPP: work:TPP            (for TPP)


     I have an Amiga 600HD, running 2.1, with 2 Megs of RAM.


     I tried to compile a couple of example documents, but could not get
them to work.  Do I need to do anything with PasTeX before I run TPP,
or am I possibly short of memory?


     Thanks in advance.







-- 
Brent E. Pistun                                       Computer Engineering
umpistun@CCU.UManitoba.CA                           University of Manitoba
From: aq061@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Devine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Need a program to catalog structured clips....................
Date: 30 Dec 1992 02:34:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I have about 800 structured clip art images and need a way to make thumbnails
of them.  If there is a program out there that can convert them to bitmaps - 
they are in propage and EPS format (both loadable by pagestream as objects) - 
then I can use Image Finder.  But I don't have a program to convert them 
automatically.  Manually loading them in would take an enormous amount of time.
Is it possible to program pagestream (does it have an arexx port?) to 
automate the process?  Any suggestions?  
-- 
-------------------------------------------------
_  //   Scott Devine (aq061@cleveland.freenet.edu)
\\//                                              
 \/ Amiga, the world's most perfect machine.      
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann)
Subject: Re: VirusZ
Keywords: reqtools.library version
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:43:14 GMT

In article <#js2#2m@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <85663@ut-emx.uucp>, sjk@ut-emx.uucp (Phil Alvin) writes:
>|> 
>|> I recently downloaded VirusZ2.27 from some archive site only to
>|> find it wanted a more recent version (38+) of the reqtools.library
>|> than it came with.  Version reported the included version as being
>|> V37.something.  When I run the program, I get a nifty little
>|> requester saying VirusZ requires V38+ of the library. Where can I
>|> find the more recent library (for 2.* ROMS)?
>
>Speaking of version....
>
>Has anyone but me had miserable luck with the version command? It seems to me 
>that it only works the FIRST time you check the version of something, and then
>repeats the old version for ANY path you give it. I guess it stores the versions
>in some sort of memory cache or something. All I know is, if I do a 

The Version command probably looks at the in-RAM copy first:  The first
Version command loads the .library file, the second one just checks the
same one again (still in memory), ignoring the requested file.  Try the
same commands again, but issue the command 'avail flush' between them to
flush out the unused, but resident-in-memory, copy.
	I'd consider it a bug in Version if it acts in this (unexpected)
way.

 ._.  Udo Schuermann
 ( )  walrus@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: lofaso@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Bernie Lofaso)
Subject: Re: BackUP & ABackup (fish disks)
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:47:46 GMT

garyweir@netcom.com (Gary Weir) writes:

>Note -  Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications

>I'm presently using BRU (thanks Fred) via HDBackup for my hard drive
>backup needs.  I was hoping to get Ami-Back (commercial package) but
>Santa wasn't quite good enough to me this year (I didn't get a lump
>of coal, I did at least get WB 2.1.....8-).  Has anyone used either
>or both of the following shareware packages?  Any and all comments
>appreciated.

>BackUP         version 3.77        by Felix R. Jeske        Fish#767

>ABackup        version 2.00        by Denis Gounelle        Fish#780

>Thanks!

>-- 
>Gary M. Weir   Milpitas, California (Silicon Valley)  garyweir@netcom.com

I've tried both programs on an A4000. I don't like the user interface
for BackUP very much. It doesn't allow you to enter the directory to be
backed up, but instead requires you to enter a volume. You don't have to
back up then entire volume, you can select/deselect what you wish, but
having to read a large disk volume only to deselect everything and start
over is a pain. I tried backing up a directory with 2.7M in it to HD floppy
with compression turned on. After about 10-15 minutes I got tired of waiting
and turned the machine off.

I tried an older version of ABackup when I had my 2500. Even then I was
impressed with the program until I fed it a bad floppy and it aborted a fairly
long dump. Supposedly the new version will recover from such problems. I don't
know ... it doesn't run under AmigaDOS 3.0. Hopefully the author will fix that
soon as I basically like this program.

Bernie Lofaso
Applied Research Labs
From: alfredo@ajahnv.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn V)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
Date: 28 Dec 92 02:34:05 GMT
Organization: Amiga 2000 (Home System)

Has anyone had problem with the "&" (background process)? I just installed
it (I also just installed OS 2.1, incase that makes any difference...).


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