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From: popec@freeside.com (PopeC)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Caller Block, Complete House Control.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 20:00:02 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

> I wonder if you can set it up so that you can program your phone for numbers
> you do not want to recieve from. After all if the phone tells you what number
> is calling, why can't you set it up to filter out known obnoxious numbers..
> 
> When will the day when all the applicance in your house are controlled by a
> central brain and where you can plug your appliance in and have the computer
> control it...  So that you can control the numbers coming in, or the numbers
> going out..  Maybe it is time for the people to be able to control thier own
> data input and output.. And also be easier to set things up.. 
> Maybe a data jack that will not only allow you to get power to your appliance
> and also allow for computer control.. Something in the way of fiber optic or
> something?? Maybe a light to power convertor (miezoelectric(sp))..
> 
> Michael Adams alias Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu
> 
> 


I here that Microsoft is working on a single chip computer design.  It is 
essentially a 286 on a chip with MSDOS and Windows on Rom.  With hardware 
for controlling devices built in.  Why?  so they can have a gebneral 
purpose controller that can contol any device it is built into and that 
anyfool that can use Visual Basic can program to his or her souls 
content.  You could call home, check the thermostat, set up your VCR to 
record something for when you get home, preheat the oven, and drop some 
Voice Mail on the main household computer, for your brat kid.
  Or.....?   What would you do when every device you own hase a microsoft 
controller that can be controlled remotely by you or your computer?

Pope Charles.   SubGenius Pope Of Houston.    My house hates me.
The Household Computer told me so.....


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From: mykel.alvis@the-matrix.com (Mykel Alvis) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: DEA, Secret Service,
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: mykel.alvis@the-matrix.com (Mykel Alvis) 

N> In article <1992Dec31.195354.28204@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ahawks@nyx.cs.du.ed
> Somewhere in Cyberspace, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu said about 'DEA,
> Secret Service, Brain Loss.': > 
> |The DEA is a bunch of crooks, who as law enforcement could not find their wa
> |out of paper bag..  Unless you gave them a joint to get out..
> So nice of you to stereotype, lump them altogether.
> |Same with the Secret Service.. They are both organizations who have little
> It is this type of conjecture that only serves to increase their image

N> True.. Why make them more powerful than they think they are.

Conspiracy theorys really crack me up.

It's always a riot when the rights of the few outweight the rights of everyone
else.

I've seen a growing population (recently) of conspiratorial attitudes, I'll
admit.  But you can expect that in any organization, especially one as large
as the government.  Same with big business.  And medium sized business.  And
small business.  And educational institutions.  And {ad nauseum}.

Not that you're completely wrong.  But the sweeping generalizations about the
three-letter government agencies borders on paranoia.  They're not all
out to get you, or anyone else.  The DEA has a job to do, just like the rest
of us.  So does the SS, the FBI, the CIA, the IRS, the NSA(who?), and all 
the other government agencies.

If someones rights are squashed without due process, then that someone has
legal recourse.  It's a tragic situation, but nobody's perfect. If the DEA 
busts a drug dealer and takes everything he/she owns within due process, 
tough shit.  If you don't like it, do something about it.  Change was and 
always is instituted by people dissatisfied with the status quo.  But 
back-room mutterings are best left up to people who traffic in conspiricies.

BTW, Operation SunDevil WAS rife with stupidity, and I suggest you follow
andy's advice and get the EFF information.  It's food for thought.

Mykel


 -- SPEED 1.20 [NR]: Betty Rubble is the anti-Christ.
                                         
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 09:33:19 GMT

David McIntyre writes
| All this talk about blocking/not blocking calls has me in a quandry.  I hate
| inconveniences.  The first inconvenience would be if send-ID was enabled by
| default and I wanted to block it (i.e. calling a business).  The second
| inconvenience would be if send-ID was blocked by default and I was calling
| a friend or family member.  Since I and my family make about the same 
| frequency of each of the above types of calls, it's a no-win situation.  It's
| almost impossible to decide which mode to set as default, since I would have
| to be enabling/disabling send-ID for each call.  Any other thoughts on this
| issue?

There is a program available for the NeXT called "SBook".  It is basically a  
free-form database which can (with a click of the mouse) print letter, send  
email and dial the phone (through a modem AT command or via the speaker).  It  
allows special prefixes for long-distance, local-distance and even has a list  
of special prefixes which require a different access code.  Each individual  
database entry can optionally be set up to override these defaults and be  
dialed exactly as the number appears in the text.  If you set up a file for  
"friends and family" and a file for "favorite businesses", you could easily  
have the computer dial the prefix which overrides the default outgoing CNID.   
If you're usually sitting in front of a computer when you place a call to a  
business, then this program should make things easier.

Of couse, a $5,000 NeXT along with a $150 piece of software is hardly a  
convenient solution to your problem, but perhaps other computers can synthesize  
DTMF through their speaker (or modem, for sure) under program control.  This is  
often a good use for those $99 2400 baud modems which everyone seems to have  
lying around gathering dust.

BTW, I only know the per-call prefix to diable CNID if it is on by default.  Is  
there also a per-call prefix to *enable* CNID if you elect to diable outgoing  
CNID for your line?
-- 
Brian Willoughby	Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software
NeXTmail welcome	- NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission
From: a7657@mindlink.bc.ca (Stephen H. Kawamoto)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:13:08 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Just on the word of note about CID et al.:
my local is the last to be upgraded to CID so peole with CID cannot get my #.
(the oldest phone exchange i think... was last to upgrade from mechanical
relays and pulse dialing to touch tone in 1981-1982). A safe secure area to
call into CID areas...

--
address Email to reach me: <a7657@mindlink.bc.ca>||<an3364@anon.penet.fi>
    "It is the very mind itself
     That leads the mind astray;
     Of the mind,
     Do not be mindless."
     (an old Japanese folk song)
From: popec@freeside.com (PopeC)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Phone/SSN and Danger
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 19:39:51 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

> What I can see in the future is that your phone number will be the same as yo
> Social Security Number, and that you will have it were ever you go, so no
> matter where you are you will be found and called.. Especially if the total-n
> comes about. Total-net is where all transactions are handled thru a central
> databank, therefore if you geta  room in Kuwait, your location will be
> identified and all calls to you willbe sent to your physical location nad not
> your home, since you are not at home.. Sorry if my vision is unclear, I get
> wierd ides at times.. Maybe in the future you will have to identify yourself 
> either retina, finger or by your phone/social sex number to use a phone so
> therefore the person on the other end will know who you are, even if they don
> know you.. Imagine a world were someone always knows where you are? Auswitz
> here we come..
> 
> 
> Michael Adams
> Alias: Morgoth or Ghost Wheel 
> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
> 


I remember reading somewhere 2 or three years ago about some scheme where 
upon you would be able to 'buy' a life long telephone number that would 
be the same wherever you moved.  Supposedly advanced telephone technology 
would dothis for us.  I guess they'd have several 'Area Codes' that would
be for these special numbers.  Or some such scheme.  Anybody but me here 
of this?

And on Telemarketing calls.
  For the last year I have had a little box hooked into my phone system.  
When I activate thsi, anybody who calls gets a little voice that tells 
the to 'punch in their secret number now'.  I can set a 4 digit #, and 
pass it to only those people I want to talk with at any and all times.
If you don't have that number, my phone system won't let you reach me.
Handy little box for having a quiet evening without telemarketing scum.
  I bought mine out of a damark catalogue for $69.00

Not much to do with Caller ID, which down here was just made illegal,
But helpful if you want some peace and quiet, but you want Mom to be able 
to call you without any hassles.  And you can always change your secret # 
if you ever have a 'Fatal Attraction" ex-girlfriend problem.  A lot 
cheaper than paying to change your phone #.

Keeps crank calls off your line too.


Pope Charles    SubGenius Pope Of Houston   Slack!

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: DEA, Secret Service, Brain Loss.
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:35:14 GMT

The DEA is a bunch of crooks, who as law enforcement could not find their way
out of paper bag..  Unless you gave them a joint to get out..

Same with the Secret Service.. They are both organizations who have little
respect for constitutional rights of free americans.. If your not a member of
their nifty organization (themselves or the President/Congress) your nothing..

I would not put it before them to deliberately to  seize property of a political
opponent for the gains of their masters/mistresses.. 


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Caller ID Block+
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:30:27 GMT

I like the idea of a computer/answering machine blocking known phone numbers..
Of coures maybe it woul dbe nice if CID gets real popular and call blocking
gets going, that there might be a special code that the operator can
press/access that will deactivate the AUTOMATICE call blocking.. Or if your
loved one had the special code to deactivate the caller block remotelly..
Or maybe make it part of the telemarketing package that teh telemarketers
number accivates a special tone that most/all CIS/Call Blockers will recognize
and will then block the call, but let others without the special tone..

Any better ideas? Let us know...


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
From: mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: My Predictions for 1993 !!!
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 01:47:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

LEGAL--California will enact the proposal of the Legal Reform Working Group,
which will re-write all California state laws in a formal description
language.  Massachusetts will pass a similar act later the next year,
except the two laws will be incompatible;  California will have a
bottom-up syntax, while Mass. will be top-down.

PRISONS--a single mega-prison will be constructed in the Nevada wasteland
for cost-effective housing of federal prisoners.  It will be a model of
modern technology, including both passive and photovoltaic solar technology.

CULTURE--a man in Berkeley, CA, will sue the state of California to allow
him to legally marry his cat.  The state will not contest this, on the grounds
that any effort in that direction would cost the state funds which can be
better used elsewhere.

ROYALS--Queen Elizabeth will direct the line of succession away from the
House of Windsor.  The designated heir apparent will be a program named
"Rex 2.0" developed at Manchester University.  This program incorporates
all of the knowledge downloaded from the existing queen during 5 years
of careful interrogation.

MATERIALS--during 1993, a breakthrough material invented in 1991 will be
revealed.  It is aerogel-filled aircraft honeycomb, a material only 5%
heavier than standard honeycomb, but more than 2X stronger.

PRESIDENCY--a 13-year-old kid with a scanner for cellular telephone
frequencies will save the life of President Clinton, by revealing an
assassination plot.  He will receive the Medal of Freedom in 1994.

ENERGY--a steam car will win the Monte Carlo Grand Prix, for the first time
in nearly 75 years.  This car will take advantage of a steam engine's
rapid spool-up and spool-down capability.

SILICON VALLEY--Apple Computer will build a monorail to connect its
various buildings in Cupertino.  The total construction cost will be
less than $1 million, thanks to heavy use of AutoCAD software.
Custom components for the system will be manufactured by the same
flexible manufacturing facility used for producing Macintoshes, simply
by downloading the new design to the facility's computer.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: popec@freeside.com (PopeC)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Okay to be stupid, see politicians.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 19:53:13 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

> Yes it is okay to be stupid, see Politician. 
> After all if you take away the price of folly, all you raise is a nation of
> idiots (hum I wonder if Victor in Mass counts?).. 
> 
> Was not the original Rhodes a well knwn racist and superiority believer?
> 
> Bruce Hayden, hello, Do you have relations in or around Baker Oregon?
> 
> Michael Adams alias Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu
> 
> 
> 


Yeah.  He made his fortune in mining in Africa.  Rhodesia is named after 
him.  

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From: jonathan@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Mondo makes me retch
Date: 1 Jan 93 18:42:58 GMT

I don't find Mondo quite that offensive... but then, I don't consider it
a c-punk zine, either.  Why don't you try reading alt.zines ?  I'd 
recommend "Virus 23", put out by some friends of mine up here in Alberta.


--
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.cyberspace,alt.evil,alt.folklore.college
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Couldn't control my own phone (Re: Caller ID block?)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:52:04 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher) writes:

> That wouldn't stand up... It might satisfy you that it's the same person but
> CNID isn't valid in court anyway because it can be faked.

If your adversary is good enough to fake CNID, then CallTrace,
CallBlocking and ReturnCall are also compromised, because all this
information is supplied by the switch.  Without implicit cooperation
from the LEC, you can't spoof CNID, only block it.  (and some LEC's
don't even offer blocking)

> You need to get the
> service where you can dial *xx and it will record the # that called you even
> if it didn't show-up on CNID.

That much is true, but the reason it would not have shown ID is because
the ID was either blocked or unavailable.  If you were to receive ID,
the chances of it not matching what an official trace reports are very
small.  (it's possible that a trace may report a DID extension behind a
PBX, where CNID would report the main incoming line, for example)
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
   "I like Santa Claus as well as the next guy, but do you really want a
   hard drive that's spent 6000 miles at the bottom of a canvas sack in a
            wooden sleigh powered by airborne reindeer?" -- me
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Guide to the New Edge
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 03:45:26 GMT

Well since I don't have any back issues of 'Mondo 2000' it might be worth it..
Is it at the same address for subscriptions for 'Mondo 2000'??

Will review list and see if there is anything that they might have missed when
it comes to the future..


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
From: chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:32:29 GMT
Organization: Lexington Public Access Unix. -KY- (606) 255-9121

In article <1992Dec21.163742.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>In article <28487@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch) writes:
>> In alt.cyberpunk, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>>>On receiving a call with caller ID blocked, one thing you could do is pick
>>>up the receiver and say, "If you want to talk to me, call back without
>>>blocking caller ID," and hang up.
>>>
>>>But could you distinguish (a) a caller who has deliberately blocked
>>>caller ID, from (b) a caller from a place that simply doesn't have it yet?
>> 
>> The phone system tells you.  If you have caller ID service, then you
>> get Caller-ID info on every call.  It includes the date and time
>> of the call as well as the phone number.  If the call comes from an
>> area that doens't supply the number, then you get an "out of area"
>> message (along with the date and time).  If the caller-id info is blocked
>> you get a message something like "private" (along with the date and
>> time).

Not necessarily.  In most areas, a call through an operator or a calling 
card will also report 'Out of Area'.



-- 
Chad Helfenberger
(chelf@lunatix.uucp)
From: mykel.alvis@the-matrix.com (Mykel Alvis) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Slipstream PoMo and Secon
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: mykel.alvis@the-matrix.com (Mykel Alvis) 

OK> From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (obi-wan kenobi)
  > Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
  > Subject: Slipstream PoMo and Second Generation Cyberpunk
  > Message-ID: <1992Dec30.184738.608@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
  > Date: 30 Dec 92 18:47:38 GMT

OK> Summary:  Caller ID is wank.  Let's change the prevailing gestalt of

I think that about sums my view, as well.










That's OK, I didn't expect you to give a shit.  :)


Happy New Year, etc!

 -- SPEED 1.20 [NR]: We Aint Disgusting! We Just Got Testosterone!
From: evenson@hitl.washington.edu (Mark Evenson)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Slipstream PoMo and Second Generation Cyberpunk
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:49:57
Organization: R+D Hipsters @ virtual HITLab, Ithaca
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In-reply-to: zyzzy@stein.u.washington.edu's message of 30 Dec 1992 22:47:56 GMT

In article <1ht8usINNbjc@shelley.u.washington.edu>
zyzzy@stein.u.washington.edu (Zyzzy Galore) writes in reply to my request
for "clarification":

   What are the contours of hyperreality?  Dunno, but thinking about the
   futurists, the Dadas, the punks, and reading stuff like Storming the
   Reality Studio goes a long way.

   What's the recipe?

Well, every recipe needs a cook, check?  So, look for "sites" with a high
(re)transmission density of things that can be identified with
"hyperreality".  _Storming the Reality Studio_ has a whole bunch of
ingredients: Derrida next to Burroughs, Kathy "Ackering" Gibson, selections
from the _Mississippi Review_ special issue on Cyberpunk (or was that the
_Missouri Review_), und so weiter. . .  What kind a cake do they bake?

Why does Penn (sans Teller) read Gibson's _Agrippa_, 'destroying' a
copy, into a tape recorder, in order to re-transcribe its narrative as a
live reading at Symphony Space before a paying audiance in New York?  And
who paid for the copy he 'destroyed' in reading?  Who was in the audiance?

Get going:  I'm gone.



   
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: jason@wc20.writer.yorku.ca (Jason Nolan)
Subject: Re: CyberTrendies - Mondo 2000, etc..
Keywords: spazz pilots
Organization: York University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:37:34 GMT

In article <Bz3tpJ.DDM@cs.vu.nl> ikuz@cs.vu.nl (Kuz I) writes:
> Well I just saw Mondo 200 for the first time a couple of days ago.
> My Reaction? - Disappointment at best.
> 
> After more then a year of hearing people talk about Mondo 2000 in the 
> alt.cyber* newsgroups I was expecting something that would reflect what 
> cyberpunk really is ( or at least what I think it really is ).  What I  
found
> was just a glossy magazine with people wearing jockstraps with  
microchips
> or portable phones on them, lots of VR ads and `some' articles.  It  
reminded
> me of a sort of GQ ( Gentlemans Quarterly ) or SIXTEEN, or whatever for
> techno/Cyber Trendies.
> 
> What I like most about about CP is that you can see it happening before
> your very eyes: new technology being developed ( VR, Smartcards ), and  
the l
> loss of freedom that it brings to people, buisness becoming more and  
more 
> powerful, cities expanding ( soon to create a 'Sprawl' ), and so on.

> 
> my condolences :-)
> 		Ihor.
> 	
You got it, Ihor.  We've already fetishized the future.  These folks who  
are "riding the Silicon wave"  have bought the glossy toys without  
realizing that they're more likely to become one of Tally's biggest fans,  
running after simstim stars, rather than burning any chrome.  If you  
remember the boy in Chrome who'd just traded his eyes for some cheap nerve  
destroying artificials, you may realize that you see him every day posting  
requests for help with HomeBrew VR.

I'll wait until the subversive elements are a little deeper than the Jock  
Strap.

Sympathetically yours %^{)

Gap Fizz