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From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: Some Comments [RSS : Silent Revolution etc.]
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:43:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.054730.20102@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>
>   When a generation of people are brought up on false ideas of past
>   glory, tragedy is the only result.
> ...lots of stuff deleted...

>   The introduction of vedic math may have some virtue in it, if it is
>   shown to be practical in its application to modern problems.
>   If the advantage to be gained by introducing this system outweighs 
>   the cost of overturning the current methods, than this is a good thing.
>   If on the other hand it is a pointless exercise in nostalgia, it
>   deserves to be laid to rest.
>

I agree with all above. It seems RSS believes that the only way 
to instil national pride is to glorify our past and play down 
all that was sullied. Some movement towards TRUTH ! Introduction
of vedic mathematics is commendable in that it will give insight
in solving problems in a different way than we have so far been 
doing. I had taken a 1 month course in Vedic mathematics and 
I found it pretty interesting when doing simple things like 
multiplication, squareroots etc. However, when it comes to higher
mathematics like calculus or algebra, I did not find it much 
different or any easier than our current mathematics. Infact 
I was skeptical of some of the methods they claimed was developed 
in Vedic times. A lot of them seemed to have been blatantly 
plagiarized from modern mathematics. Further, fields like statistics
and vector calculus don't seem to exist in vedic mathematics. 
It is obvious that modern mathematics cannot be dispelled off.
If the MP govt. is only introducing a chapter of it just to 
make the children aware that there are different methods of 
doing elementary mathematics, then I see no harm in it. But to 
say that vedic mathematics is superior to our current mathematics
without any proof is sheer self delusion. 


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar)
Subject: Re: Interested in a sexy desi girl
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:28:46 GMT
Keywords: sexy desi

>In article <BtuwJ1.Ay1@wpi.WPI.EDU> sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki) writes:
>
>i am a six footer and am also dark. i am handsome by any standards.
>you can ask all my friends. i am looking for a desi chick who is about
>5 feet and 6 inches tall and should be fair. she should be sexy too.
>caste no bar.

I read the above posting just when 
I was getting ready to post the following matrimonial ad for an imaginary
friend of mine (Ms. Sexy).

    "i am 5 feet and 6 inches and am also fair. i am sexy by any standards.
     you can ask all my friends. i am looking for a desi rooster who is a
     six footer and should be dark. he should be handsome too.
     caste no bar."
 
 
The descriptions do seem to indicate that these two people were probably made
for each other! How lucky can people get!!
 
        - After all, tying the knot is a life time commitment!
          Since marriage is a serious affair, we could help the bride-to-be
          by sharing our honest opinions about the groom-to-be.
	  (we either say it now ro we agree to remain silent forever!)
 
        - Do you think our friend, the "chick"-seeker,
	  will marry an out-of-this-world ghostly bride?
 
Some more "useful" info for chick-seekers:

If you want, you can reach this Ms. Sexy by simply redirecting or piping
        all comments/matrimonial proposals to  /dev/null.
        Sorry, if you don't know UNIX, you do not deserve this golden 
        opportunity. 

If you want to call Ms. Sexy, dial 9-1-1.
 
If you want to send a personal letter or photograph(s) to Ms. Sexy, you
should put adequate postage (it has to go a very long way, you
see) and make sure that you do not write an address on the envelope!
That way, if you two ever meet/contact/get to know each together,
you can be sure that the match was indeed made in Heaven and
that good Lord intended for you two to meet each other!!

Please do not send me any E-mail. I know how to delete mail I don't want
to read ! I am just trying to save you a few key strokes. 

Bye.
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Undergrad Admissions.
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:44:10 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


   This is for myu brother and some of his friends who want to
   seek admission for undergrad education ini com science any
   where in the United States.
   I would be grateful for any information regarding univs.
   where they offer a scholarship or a tution fee waiver.
   For what I have gathered it seems that the chances are more
   at private univs than state funded ones.
   Would netters who have had some experience regarding this 
   or have friends or/and relatives who are receiving undergrad
   scholarships please respond.
   I would be happy to share the compiled info to any one else 
   who is interested.
   Thanking you in advance.
   Gopakumar Venugopalan
   venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dvng9550@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Snafu )
Subject: Re: queries directed to jains, (from a jain) ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:26:59 GMT

tolia@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia) writes:

>In article <1992Aug24.203312.27146@umbc3.umbc.edu> kuntal@algol.cs.umbc.edu (survivor) writes:
>>hi,
>>
>>today, when i was engaged in a debate with a couple of pals, a couple of points
>>arose. and i found that the belief that i held was contradicted by them. and 
>>one of them was pretty sure that i was incorrect. 
>>
>>so, to clear up the matter, i am putting forth those points in terms of 
>>yes/no questions.
>>
>>(it's embarassing making public my ignorance about something that i thought 
>> i knew pretty well !)
>>
>>- Does Jainisn believe in "God" per se ? eg. Is Mahavir God or is he a 
>>  tirthankar ? are tirthnakar and God different ?
>>




>As far as I understand jainism does not believe in a god per se. This
>makes it an atheistic religion. (is that an oxymoron?) The orthodox
>jains (digambars) follow it with no idol worship or concept of god. 
>However I believe swetambars introduced some form of idol worship
>but mahavir is still considered as someone who shows us the path to
>nirvana rather than a god.
>>- Officially, does idol worship have credence in jainism ?
>>
>>answers would be greatly appreciated. (on the net or email)
>>
>>as an aside, i would also like to know how many students practice "Paryushan"
>>here ? I am more interested in students because, i believe that they might 
>>be facing the same conditions and choices that I do while trying to practice
>>it.
>>



Officially (I think), idol worship does have credence in the 
"deravasi" sect. The "sthanakvasi" sect does not beleive in idol worship
Also, tirthankars are not looked upon as God, though the line is pretty
thin at most times. Have we not heard the cries of: "Bolo Mahavir bhagwan
ni jai" or " Bolo Mahavir swami ni jai" ?                         ^^^^^^^
			  ^^^^^

I guess that practising paryushan does become a bit difficult in this
country or away from home, for that matter. The only way I come to know
that paryushan is going on is from my phone conversations with my parents.

I don't eat meat. Initially it was a religious thing, now it is a health
thing. What I do like about Jainism is the fact that it preaches self-denial.
I think that it is a quality most needed in todays world. I don't really
think that Jainism preaches atheism, 'cause it does say that there is/are
beings who can show us the path to "moksha". Whether those beings are
called God or tirthankars is atmost a pathological issue.    

-Dipchand





>As for practising the religion, I do not rigidly follow it (for eg. I eat 
>meat) but I think some of the ideas (atheism and non violence) are very
>appealing.
>>many thanks for any effort expended.
>>
>Youre very welcome.
>>kuntal

>Anish


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ascidamb@unity.ncsu.edu (Aruna Cidambi)
Subject: Re: cow cownvention - addendum
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:19:46 GMT

In article <9208311645.AA10282@ho06.eng.ua.edu>, bkannan@ho06.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan) writes:

|> In article <1992Aug31.025831.23483@ncsu.edu> ascidamb@unity.ncsu.edu (Aruna Cidambi) writes:

   
|>      A dissident cow? :) Let me join your ranks. Maybe then, I can

	Most certainly u can. So what do u wanna be -- the honey or the
queen? the honey, no doubt?;-)


|>     The cow got angry first [as is the case :)] and shouted --
|>     That is udder B***S***! :) Ever since,the distinction stuck
|>     and has survived despite cowntless attempts by the feminists 
|>     among the cows [of the later generation] to do away with this 
|>     apparent gender discrimination :) That ain't no cock and bull
|>     story.

	Just plain B***S***!:) 

|>      That could be a topic on which you might want to SHED some light
|>      at the cownvention :)
	
	and what do i do at the cownvention when "everything" is cow gazing?
bulls-eyeing?;-)

|>      BTW, have you heard of the term Bullworker? :) [Forget bull dozer for 
|>                                                      a moment  :)]

	no i have'nt. but i have heard of bullbaiting and bullfighting:).
 
|>      You could be rewriting history [cowmistry] at the cownvention with
|>      your speech [mooing] though :) 

	mo(v/o)ing it would certainly be:)

|> >c) Cowry -- is this evil prevalent here too?
|> >
|>      Yes, only among Hindu cows. 
|> 
|>      But, we bovines don't call it an evil. It is a "goodwill gesture" :)
|>      Holy Cowry! rather.

	You should be taken to cowrt, u cownfabulator:).

|> >Since I'm afraid that my mooing may not be heard in the cowmotion (also cows' motion ;-)) at the cownvention, i demand answers now. 

|>        Yes, mooings from all quarters must be heard. 
|>        No Bulldozing, I mean :) 
|> >______________________________________________
|> >Neither a bully nor a coward be.
|> >______________________________________________

|> --------------------------------------
|> A honey be? :) Perhaps, a Queen be! :)
|> --------------------------------------

	cd be a "bar be"???:)

-- 
aruna.
_____________________________________
Cownt your sheddings, er, blessings.
_____________________________________
From: 10702830@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (RAJIB DATTA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: looking for ways to meet opp sex
Date: 30 Aug 92 01:54:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng2.10702830.17.715139690
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

In article <m912121.714810726@chudich.co.rmit.oz.AU> m912121@chudich.co.rmit.oz.AU (Joydip Das) writes:
>From: m912121@chudich.co.rmit.oz.AU (Joydip Das)
>Subject: Re: looking for ways to meet opp sex
>Date: 26 Aug 92 06:32:06 GMT
>mark@lowton.rn.com (Mark Powell) writes:
>
>
>>In article <1992Aug22.074306.15658@access.digex.com>, gulati@access.digex.com (Raj K. Gulati) writes:
>>> Hi,
>>>   A few of my friends including myself, are wondering about what
>>>   is the best way to meet indian guys and gals (ie opposite sex)
>>						      ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Now come on, are you really that paranoid?
>
>>>   here in the U.S. Some of us would want to pursue just a rela-
>>>   tionship, others are inclined towards immediate (or arranged)
>>>   marriages. Any suggestions?
>
>>Jesus. How about going over and talking to them like the human
>>beings that they are? You people really are the worst. Your
>>prospective wives are not some commodity that can be tossed about
>>as is your want.
>
>>>   Please send replies to gulati@access.digex.com.
>
>>No.
>
>I second that.
>
>These "guys and gals" should crawl out of their holes and join
>the human race.  "Immediate (or arranged) marriages"????? Are you
>guys for real?  How much are you willing to pay?  Its time you
>"conservative" and "educated" and "grown-up" guys and gals started
>to think of other people as "people" and not just state-of-the-art
>vending machines.
>
>No doubt, gulati@access.... will receive more favourable mail.
>Birds of feather.....etc.
>
>
>J.D
>-----------------------------
>m912121@chudich.co.rmit.oz.au
>


I totally agree!

Well said.

Raj (u)
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From: murthy@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTHY SAMNATHAN)
Subject: H A P P Y  B I R T H D A Y
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:07:05 GMT

I wish a happy birthday to all who were born today Aug.28th. Have another
happy and successful year. Take care and God bless.

Affectionately Ashok.

Here's a birthday joke in good humor only,
	When you blew out the candles on your birthday cake,
	they complained of air pollution.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar)
Subject: Re: General Body Meeting of the M.S.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:47:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.213721.2739@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>
>There will be a meeting of the Miscreants Society on Monday, Sept.
>7th at 7.00 p.m. The Miscreants Society was formed with the specific
>objectives of identifying notorious culprits, causing disturbances,
>committing multiple nuisances and otherwise undermining the reputation
>of our community.  Interested persons may send mail to this address.
>The venue remains undecided but will be in Columbus, Ohio.
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My memo must have gotten misplaced somewhere.

The venue *was* decided at the last Naughty Naughty Cucumber Fest which George
missed on account of a bout of rind-pest fever. Members of MOOS (Miscreants-Of-
Osu Society) are requested to assemble on the vast rolling greens in front of
the twin towers. Cows will be the order of the day.  
The revised agenda is as follows:
 

			MOOS AGENDA ... 9/7/92 
      

        Invocation to the sacred Chicago Bulls 
             (set to the music of Alan Parson's 'Sirius')
        
	Presentation of ceremonial turbans to new members.

        "Whose horn is bigger ?"  contest.

	Distribution of laddoos and other assorted sweetmeats.

        'Moo while you belch' demonstration by Dr. Nandi Cowswamy
                              from SUNY, Buffalo.

	Cowslaughter Debate: If cow dies no milk, only beef!

	Interval (members will be invited to partake of the lush grass 
                  at the venue; and chew the cud in general)

	Environmental Debate: If grass dies how cow will live?
                              (An open forum on the merits/demerits of
                              astro-turf vs grass)

        "Are cows horny, or are they just glad to see us ?", a group discussion

	Farewell speech by outgoing President following which 
        he will be 'kicked' out by a few chosen members. 


Looking forward to seeing everybody. 

Sridhar
Co-founder, MOOS
Mo(o)sCow
Russia




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: naresh@apple.com (naresh gupta)
Subject: Baby girl's names
Organization: Taligent Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:24:50 GMT

If anybody has a list of girl's names which was posted a while back, could
you please email me a copy at naresh@apple.com.

Naresh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: katiyar@CS.Stanford.EDU (Dinesh Katiyar)
Subject: indians in and around paris
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:19:21 GMT


i will be working in paris for three months starting sept 21st, and
was wondering if there are any indians in and around paris that would
be willing to help a clueless person a bit, and would be interested in
doing some fun things. if so, do write to me!

dinesh
From: gsnreddy@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (G S N Reddy (Sathya))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Looking for Shyam Sunder - Chittoor, A.P.
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:20:26 GMT
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens
Originator: gsnreddy@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu

I am looking for Mr. Shyam Shunder from SVU college of Engineering, Tirupathi, A.P.

If you know about him please mail me the information.

Thanks in Advance.

-sathya
From: mxm1003@s22.msi.umn.edu (Ram V. Mohan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: looking for Srinath, MAE, WVU, Morgantown
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:42:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

I am looking for Srinath, who has joined the MAE dept. of WVU, Morgantown
this fall.  If you know him and where he could be reached, please
ask him to call me and he has my number.  He is supposed to have
reached there on Aug. 13 from India (he is from PSG Tech.).  Thanks
and I appreciate your help.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rakesh@dolphin (Rakesh Chabra)
Subject: Re: Ms. Indian American and I (Re: Indian/Indian-American communication)
Keywords: vegetarian indian american IA II culture
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 04:32:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.201804.25589@Firewall.Nielsen.Com>  
mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota) writes:
> What barriers exist, huh? Let me kick this thing off with a recent  
encounter
> with a couple of Indian-descended people of opposite sex. 
> 
> Ms. Aroma and I
> ================
> Ms. Vegetarian and I on the phone
> ==================================

Wow, such lousy experiences...  You seem to be brutally honest with these  
women without caring what they hear from your comments.  Are you truly  
interested in them understanding what you have to say, or are you just  
having fun and playing with them. (I don't think they are having any fun -  
from you comments, that is).  I see your directness as simply a request  
that you be accepted as you would accept them.  Are both of these  
experiences typical of the II or IA women that you meet?  I don't know if  
it has something to do with the ability for our culture to fit into the  
american culture or vice-versa, but there is a general problem with  
Indians communicating with other Indians (regardless of whether they are  
II or IA).

I am an IA male and have a very difficult time meeting IA females, but  
those that I have met are very disinterested in many aspects of the Indian  
culture and want to adopt the American culture fully.  I have a problem  
with giving up either culture.  I know that both cultures have something  
to offer and I love parts of both cultures. It's hard for me to describe  
what I like about the American culture or even what it is, all I know if  
that the Indian culture does not satisfy all of what I want out of a  
culture.

For those of you reading this to hear about communications gaps, my only  
comment there is that if any person (I don't care what culture they come  
from) is truly interested in the person they are talking to really hearing  
what they have to say, they will say it in a way that no matter who they  
are, they will understand it.  Taking the time to explain what they mean  
by something if they feel the person didn't understand, or even asking if  
the person understood is all it really takes.  And if the listener takes  
the time to ask a question about something the speaker said, the  
communication will be that much more rewarding.  I don't buy the accent  
escape for people not talking to one another - even if one of the accents  
is a die-hard southern (Georgian) accent and the other is a very difficult  
Indian accent - both can be heard if the listener really wants to hear.   
Of course, if the listener is only listening to be courteous, both of  
their time is being wasted.  That's how I see it - I'd love to hear  
more...

Enjoy yourself no matter what you do,

Rakesh

(rakesh@svcdudes.com)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ngopalas@ha24.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Concordia killings-the Indian angle
Organization: The University of Alabama
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:55:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.223856.28422@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug28.002421.109190@ua1ix.ua.edu> ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
|> >
|> >Since I do not have sci.research.careers at my site could someone post exactly
|> >in what capacity Indian profs were involved and why did Fabrikant shoot someone
|> >else instead of the profs against whom he held a grievance?
|> 
|> You get s.c.i at your site, but not sci.research.careers? Presumably
|> on what is a university news server? I'm skeptical about your claim.
|> 
|> Anyway, I've collected the detailed posts he made before the incident,
|> and you may pick them up by anonymous ftp from
|> 
|> "davros.acs.ohio-state.edu"
|> 
|> in
|> 
|> pub/fabrikant.txt	;
|> 
|> as may anyone else who might be interested.
|> 
|> -h

[deleted]
sci.psychology.digest! 1-137
sci.research! 1-3032
sci.skeptic! 1-17404,20219,20335-20341,20345,20578,20581
sci.space! 1-36536,38726
sci.space.shuttle! 1-8916
[deleted]

This is what my .newsrc looks like. I seem to have sci.research but not
sci.research.careers. It sounds funny to me too, but there are quite a
few groups missing at our site. Anyway thanks for the ftp address, it
makes for very interesting reading.

The Indian baggage of nepotism, underhand deals with relatives and the
whole sordid mess seems to be carried by Messrs Sankar and Swamy to Canada
too. And they seem to have exploited Indian graduate students too. I do
know for a fact that Fabrikant's situation is quite common, as regards
graduate students. I wonder how many have had similar experiences? 
Comments?

Nath.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 02:35:17 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: acceptance without questioning? An indication of ignorance
Summary: sati? a criminal offence today.
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|>I am one of those who believes that if we stop questioning all 
|>our beliefs and all our assumptions (handed down to us by 
|>society) we end up 'brain dead'. IM (not so humble) O.  
 
>that is exactly what i am saying. there are a lot of us who are
>saying 
>sati is not good. how about questioning that so  that we won't
>end up 
>being brain dead like you. 

Mr Dopey, 
Oops sorry Mr Doki,
What others claim (sati not being 'good') is based on the 'facts'
and the circumstances that have lead to this criminal practice.
They do not just accept it because their parents told them so.

>Doki 

A little poem for  U - Apologies to Lynerd Skynerd

"Mama told me, when I was young,
Sit beside me my dopey son,
If U burn your wife then she'll be fine,
That will also make U both devine.


Tav Tav Tav, Tav De Ta Tav (just playing the music too- 'cause
there is a good chance that U have not heard the song that I am
twisting:)

Now I'am older and taking her advice,
My mind has not evolved and I am despised."

I wonder why?

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian