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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Groff's PS output isn't fit for my dog.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:20:51 GMT

Dan Newcombe (STDN%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu) wrote:

: This probably isn't the best place for this, but all there is under
: gnu.groff is bug, and for all I know this may just be a me and
: linux problem.  Anyway, I got some stuff from MIT
: (export.lcs.mit.edu  /pub/R5untarred/doc/tutorial/HelloWorld) or
: something like that.  Anyway, it is basically how to do the
: Hello World under X.  I already had this in postscript format so I know
: what it should look like, but when I ran it through gtbl and groff
: I got postscript output, but instead of it being nicely formated, it
: was all jumbled together, most of the text lumped into on huge paragraph.
: 
: Is this normal?  I used  gtbl xhw.0 | groff -Tps > xhw.ps  and then
: looked at it using gs.  Same thing also happened when I output it as
: type dvi.  Can some kind and generous soul please tell me what I am
: doing wrong.  Thanks...

You probably forgot to give groff a -m[s,e,an,doc,whatever] flag.

: BTW, when I run it through xmkmf (there is an Imakefile) it wants
: to use psroff with the option -ms.  Well, psroff didn't really work
: that well for me, and -ms bombs under both, not being able to find
: the macro s.  And this is the same Imake.tmpl and stuff that came
: with X.  I didn't touch it...

You might not have the -ms macros, or your macros might be corrupted or bad.
I got the -ms macros from groff-1.6, and they work for me.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: arch@fjh.b8.ingr.com 
Subject: SLS (.98) install problem (a3,a4)
Organization: Intergraph Corp.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:25:12 GMT


    I'm having a problem with the a3,a4 tiny installation.  After creating the
file system on hda1, I run doinstall , put in a2 as instructed and then
insert a3 as instructed.  Here, I get a magic match error, (which I ignore
per comment in doinstall script) and another error stating : "no bmap support".

what is bmap support?  I failed to find this in the FAQ or any other related
document.

Anyway, at "try again? " prompt, I do , and same thing. Quitting this I'm prompted
for a4 and encounter same problem and the subsequent boot disk which is created
hangs at "mount table ok".  

B.T.W. - a3,a4...an are on DOS formatted floppies per FAQ.
                                                
I'm probably just IGNORANT but, ........What gives?


_Major_Newbie
From: oreillym@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael O'Reilly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: TERM076
Date: 9 Jan 1993 03:35:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
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Matthew Rhoten (mrhoten@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: oreillym@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael O'Reilly) writes:
: 
: >Edward Deering Boykin (ccasted@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote:
: >: I have downloaded term076 and compiled it but I think I am confused
: >                    ^^^^^^^ woah!!! You want to get a much later
: >version. I should point out that term is regarded as being in 'beta'
: >stages. term 0.9.9l is the latest released. Subscribe to the TERM
: >mailing list if interested or join the #Linux channel on irc.
: 
: I for one haven't gotten term 0.99.* to work for diddley. 0.7.6 I got
: working after running the linerem/check stuff and escaping a few
: characters. (I dial in through an annex.) 0.99.l trsh works for a few
: characters and then stops; linerem/check report losing all but about
: four characters, no matter what magic values for shift or other stuff
: I put in my termrc. (I don't know if linerem/check use that stuff or
: not.) So I'm using 0.7.6 for now, thanks.

This is my fault. Term 099j or there about stops automatically
escapeing all the control characters. If you try term 099m (now the
latest), and add 'escape 0-31' to your termrc file it should work just
file. Iff it still doesn't, mail me. 076 had a fair few odd bugs.

 
:  -matt
Michael
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: GCC make
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 23:50:36 GMT

In article <C0IAAI.DKz@ais.org>, sno@ais.org (Stephen Opal) writes:
|> I have looked through the recent GCC 2.3.3 distributions but can't seem
|> to find 'make'.  Where is it?
|> 
|> -- 
|> Stephen N. Opal     sno@umcc.ais.org

make is not the part of gcc. It is not even required to using gcc, but you
do need binutils. make is in Linux Base System. I believe SLS has this too.
BTW, there are lots of patches I used to compile GNU stuff on tsx-11 under
pub/linux/GCC/patches. For most of new GNU stuff, you just need to do

configure [i386-linux]
make

If you want to save some disk spaces, you can delete those functions we
have in libc.a since they are the same, all from GNU.

H.J.
From: ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Install question - Video mode
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:52:37 GMT
Organization: Mala's Refuge, Montreal, Canada

In <1993Jan8.231419.1@opie.bgsu.edu> ghensle@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>I finally got around to getting Linux after hearing all the good things about
>it but I am having some trouble with it.

>I FTP'd the boot and root image and I was able to uncompress and rawrite them
>to floppys but when I try and boot the bootdisk it throws my monitor into
>a higher resolution than it can support. (Stuck with 640*480 for a while longer
>:)  )

>Is there a way I can make it come up in text mode or normal VGA?

Okay, at one point during the boot disk installation you probably will
see the following message, "Press Enter to see SuperVGA options, or Space
to Continue."  At this point, press the space bar, NOT the return/enter
key, this should put you in normal 25 lines per screen mode.


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From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem: ps/2 mouse
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:04:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <1993Jan11.135918.14015@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>,
dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) wrote:

> The version of XFree86 you have doesn't support the PS/2 mouse.  XFree86
> 1.2 (currently planned for release during the last week of January or
> first week of February) adds support for the PS/2 mouse.

The short little program 'mconv' (sometimes seen as 'ps2memul' on
archives?) by Johan Myreen is all you need to make lesser versions of
XFree86 work with a PS/2 mouse.  You need to make the appropriate device. 
All this is in the FAQs.

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: willmore@iastate.edu (David Willmore)
Subject: Re: It's installed, now what? (was Re: A flight of marketing fancy)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:44:36 GMT

In <C0JK4G.HIH@jti.com> richb@jti.com (Richard Braun) writes:
>I think this approach is limiting.  It has led to such monumental
>efforts as MIT Project Athena which have produced far fewer spinoffs
>than were originally intended.  (How many people here know that X
>Window is *not* an Athena spinoff?  Or that the Athena environment
>still runs in exactly one place--the MIT campus?)  What ends up
>happening is you have a hacker's system written by hackers for other
>hackers, and since the lusers who rely on primitive software like MS
>Word and Excel don't matter anyway, the system never strives toward a
>goal behind hackerdom.

I have a comment to make concerning your Athena comment.  Excuse me, I
don't mean to be blunt, but you don't have the slightest idea what your
taking about.  There are at least two major universities using an Athena
based system.  I work at one of them--Iowa State University.  The other
one is CMU.  Digital Equiptment Corporation has a major product called
DecAthena.  They have been advertising it in many major publications so
there aren't many reasons you shouldn't be aware of this.

--David Willmore
willmore@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: suvac@rachel.cs.andrews.edu (Radivoj Suvacarov)
Subject: X + ati ultra configuration
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:02:51 GMT

	First of all I want to thank all of you who helped
me solve the problem with SCSI installation. I have Linux
running now. However, I have another problem. After installing
X, SLS distribution, I am trying startx or xinit which results
in an error message:

no SIOCGIFCONF
XFree86 Version 1.0Ya / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
Configured drivers:
  VGA256 (256 colour SVGA):
      et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, ati, tvga8900
VGA256: et4000 (mem: 0k numclocks: 16)
VGA256:   clocks: 25 28 36 27 30 33 20 24 50 57 72 45 60 65 40 47
VGA256: Too little memory for virtual resolution

	*** None of the configured devices was detected.***

Fatal server error:
no screens found
giving up.
xinit:  Invalid argument (errno 22):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

	What should I do to get X running? I have ati graphics ultra +
Viewsonic 5E non interlaced monitor. My address is suvac@andrews.edu.

Regards,

Radivoj Suvacarov
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From: ludwig@wefunk.rent.com (Mitchel F. Ludwig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Phantom file invades /etc
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:28:16 GMT
Organization: WEFUNK, the Mothership Connection. East Brunswick, NJ

john.will@satalink.com (John Will) writes:

> I have developed a somewhat mysterious problem with Linux, specifically
> a mystery growing file! :-(  A binary file appears in my /etc directory
> named wtmp, and it's continuously growing.  It's also flagged by fsck

   Stuff Deleted....

   The wtmp file is created and maintained by the accounting software
on the machine.  Forgive me if I'm a bit off, but if you don't use
accounting, you might want to remove the adm stuff from your cron so
this file doesn't do anything.  Now I might be wrong, this could be a
login stat file, I can't recall, and if so, adm won't help.

   Wasn't that helpful? :-)

Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: klaus@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Todd Klaus)
Subject: Re: Phantom file invades /etc
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 16:41:14 GMT

In article <650.1189.uupcb@satalink.com> john.will@satalink.com (John Will) writes:
>I have developed a somewhat mysterious problem with Linux, specifically
>a mystery growing file! :-(  A binary file appears in my /etc directory
>named wtmp, and it's continuously growing.  It's also flagged by fsck
>as a problem, that's how I spotted it.  The whole system is very slow,
>obviously because of this phantom file I can't seem to figure out.
>Booting from a previous kernel on a floppy didn't fix anything, so
>I'm kinda stuck.  What in the world is going on, and how do I fix it?
>I tried deleting the file, but it gets recreated.  Where is it coming
>from?  HELP!
>                                                                    

This is an evil file that if allowed to grow unchecked will indubitably
infest the innards of your computer and will inevitably reduce your PC
to a quivering mass of protoplasm.  The only way to rid yourself of this 
foul beast is to excise its evil essense from the sacred /bin/login tome.

:):):):)

tk

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bh@eng.auburn.edu (Brian Hartsfield)
Subject: Problem Installing Linux
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:41:40 GMT

I just downloaded the latest SLS distribution for the 0.99 kernel.  When I
tried installing it on my new machine (which has an Adaptec 1542 SCSI
controller) I can't get it to run fdisk to partition the drive.  I get
an error that it can't read /dev/hda.  Any suggestions?

73 Brian
KD4AEJ
.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: something screwy with mail...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:44:14 GMT

Tim Foley (tfoley@camaro.uucp) wrote:
: In article <C0EDy3.6sA@jti.com> richb@jti.com (Richard Braun) writes:
: >I have another screwy problem, though.  With elm 2.4pl17 and with
: >this version of mail, I get two near-duplicate "To:" headers in
: >outbound mail.  Apparently elm is creating a To header, and then
: >mail is adding a second one.
: >
: >Why might that happen?
: >
:   
:   I have the same problem....anyone have any ideas?  

Easy.  re-run the configure shell script, and tell elm that rmail adds the
"To:" header.  End of problem.

Or use smail.
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1935 will go down in history.  For the first time, a civilized nation has
full gun registration.  Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient,
and the world will follow our lead into the future.  --Adolf Hitler
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: corywest@is.rice.edu (Cory West)
Subject: Re: AAAAAAGHHHHHH! Wake up fingerd!
Organization: Well, none really, but I know where my socks are!
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:11:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.035315.8607@uc.msc.edu> 
mfrankow@hamline.edu (Mike Frankowski) writes:

>  Easy to anser I think (if I am correct that is)
>  ln -s /usr/bin/finger /usr/local/bin/finger
>  and it should then work.

	To take the black magic out of the fix, this works, because 
fingerd (and this is in the readme if you grab the source) needs to 
know the location of finger at compile time.  Since the location of 
finger is assumed to be /usr/bin/finger at compile time, this dependency 
gets compiled into the binary.  Make a link from finger on your system
to /usr/bin/finger and things should go.  If not, grab the source
for fingerd, read the readme, and recompile (the source is small).

			Cory West
From: pete@introl.com (Pete Ikusz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Boot prog which allows OS selection
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:47:55 -0600
Organization: Introl Corp.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: introl.introl.com

Does a boot program exist which will allow the user to change
the active partition and boot off it. I know there is one
for OS2, but is there a PD version which will work for
linux/dos?

Thanks,
-Pete
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:15:40 GMT

I don't think my first post got through...

I recommended to people ( who know what they are doing) to check out
"depot", which was mentioned in an earlier article in this thread.

I found "depot.ps.Z" on unix1.andrew.cmu.edu, plus a version of depot
dated approx Dec. 23.

It appears from the docs that it does all that I have seen proposed here.

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mailhot@synopsys.Synopsys.COM (Frederic Mailhot)
Subject: Linux on CDROM 
Organization: Synopsys Inc., Mountain View, CA 94043
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:44:57 GMT


I've heard that Linux is available on CDROM. Apparently, this was done by Adam
Richter. Would some kind soul tell me where I can reach Adam?

Thanks,  Frederic Mailhot

mailhot@synopsys.com

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From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A few misc questions,
Date: 9 Jan 93 17:45:00 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

In article <1145.1189.uupcb@satalink.com> john.will@satalink.com (John Will)  writes:
>TC>|> One thing I'd like to see in the NET FAQ is a description of how to set
>TC>|> up the software for a local-only configuration with no ethernet card.
>TC>|> This must be a fairly common first step.
>TC>|>
>TC>
>TC>Hear hear!  I am having some difficulty getting TCP/IP to work properly, and I'd
>TC>love to be able get it set up on the machine while it's still on its own
>
>I must be missing something here, if you want the machine to be
>"stand-alone", just ignore the missing ethernet board message and use it.
>I'm running mine stand-alone, even though I do have a WD8003 in it, but
>I haven't tackled the TCP/IP stuff yet.

What I was getting at is that for me (and I suspect many others, like the
original contributor), linux-networking.faq is not simple enough.  Before I
started playing with Linux in late November, my experience with computers was
limited to DOS/Windows 3.1 on a standalone machine.  My only contact with
networks was through an IBM 3084Q account in Cambridge, which I only ever used
for mail, and the University's PC/Mac network.  In both cases I know zilch
about the way networks work.  I know TCP/IP is a protocol employed by most of
the worlds biggest networks, but I know absolutely no details, and can't find
any way of learning the basics.  In a few months I'm going to want to connect
my machine to the UK.AC.CAM domain, and I'd like to know what I'm doing before
I bugger the entire local network!  :-)

So could we have either a) some pointers to a newbie's guide to TCP/IP or b)
some really simpleton instructions we can follow to get a working loopback
system, with which we can then tinker and learn that way.

Tim.


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From: dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CMOS getting mangled ?
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:41:29 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1993Jan12.032455.27285@nwnexus.WA.COM> danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.151851.23665@athena.mit.edu> acook@athena.mit.edu (Andrew R Cook) writes:
>>I've been running SLS v.98pl5 for a while, and (almost) everything is
>>peachy-keen, except for the fact that Linux has the annoying habbit of
>>thrashing my CMOS for time to time.  It seems like every other time the
>>time and date get fried, and occasionally the disk info is lost.  Very
>>strange.  I've never had this problem running any dos stuff.  It looks
>>like the clock is just reset, it comes up jan 1, 1980.  
>
>Hmmm ... That's interesting, because something similar is happening to 
>my Gateway 486/33C, too, but up to now I never linked it to linux.
>(... and it still may have nothing to do with it until I hear about more
>similar coincidences).
>
>Lately I have noticed some erratic behavior with my A: drive while in
>DOS 5.  I would try to format a 1.2Mb floppy in it with the usual
>command lines options (/u /f:1.2) and it would be refused with a message
>saying something about those parameters not matching the drive.  This is
>new, because those params always used to work before (meaning
>unconditional formatting of a 1.2 Mb floppy).  What I discovered,
>however, that all I needed to fix this problem was to make a cold boot
>with the reset button.
>
>Reading your post makes me think of the circumstances when these things
>were happening and it looks like it might have been when I used the floppy
>drive in linux and later rebooted (via warm boot) into DOS-5 to format 
>some floppy.  I thought that recent erratic behavior may have been due
>to my drive slowly going south, but perhaps there is something else to
>this.  (I hope I'm not going to be eaten alive for this comment again!
>;-)  Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can look into it. 
>I am going to watch this better from now on, because it may have been
>happening when I tried to format after a RAWRITE. 
>
>Joe Pannon


I have seen postings regarding this for some time, always linked to
486 motherboards.  Seems to be related to rebooting system.  I always
do "shutdown now", then hit reset button to reboot.  Have NEVER had a
problem.  There have been virtually no postings on this for a few weeks,
but I guess there is still a problem.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.std.c
From: diamond@jit345.bad.jit.dec.com (Norman Diamond)
Subject: Re: [Linux] Library 4.1 bug/feature?  fopen("fifo","a") fails
Reply-To: diamond@jit.dec.com (Norman Diamond)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Japan , Tokyo
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:22:36 GMT

In article <1ihjljINNeu7@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.104939.10424@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>>In article <1igs2mINNdpp@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>>>Is it a bug or a feature that fopen("fifo","a"), where "fifo" is a named
>>>pipe, fails with an 'illegal lseek' in the 4.1 version of the library?
>>>The opinion on comp.std.unix seems to be that there should be no problem...

>>That is a feature of stdio/kernel. I was told that according to ANSI
>>standard, fopen ("foo", "a") should do a lseek () to the end after calling
>>open (). But linux kernel refuses to any lseek () on non-regular files.

>From my understanding of the ANSI C standard, the main thing is not to
>overwrite anything in a file opened with mode "a".

That is my understanding too.  However, note that the ANSI C standard is
concerned only with files on this matter.  The ANSI C standard also states
that certain kinds of data, written to certain kinds of files, can be read
back unchanged.  I think that named pipes cannot be considered as ANSI C
files, only as implementation extensions.  The standard does not really
constrain extensions.  Conforming implementations must still guarantee that
strictly conforming programs will not observe a difference, but strictly
conforming programs cannot use named pipes, so anything goes for named pipes.

>It should be legal to implement the stdio library in such a way that, when
>opening a fifo in "a" mode, no lseek() call is made.

I believe that such an extension would remain friendly as well as not
violating the standard (though the standard doesn't care about friendliness).

>A later fseek() call to a stream opened for append should be ignored, anyway.

For named pipes, maybe this would be OK, purely for the above reason, that
named pipes are entirely implementation extensions.  However, for ANSI C
files, this would not be OK.  There are cases with ANSI C files where, even
if a stream is opened for append, and even though writes will be forced to
the end of the file, fseek() cannot be ignored.
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