From: ems@Apple.COM (Mike Smith)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: More comments Re: Odd home defense shotguns (was Re: suggested weapons
Summary: Stupid comment retraction...
Keywords: Crow, yum.  An apology.
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:16:13 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Synopsis:  Forgive me for being a flaming ass.

I was far too quick to post at a moment of emotional upset and should
have just ignored things.  What can I say, It was a lousy weekend and
looking to be a worse week ...

What I should have said is below:

In article <30644@goofy.Apple.COM> ems@Apple.COM (Mike Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.183959.20103@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep5.051950.22343@michael.apple.com> ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith) writes:
>>
>><everything deleted>
>>
>>In consideration for the many people who have objected to this discussion,
>>can we please at least leave the subject line the same? That way nobody
>>has to alter their kill files.
>
Well, you see, I've been getting anoyed at the constant postings of
meta discussions that just ask folks not to talk about what was a 
legitimate topic and thought that it would be a good thing to change
the subject line to reflect that the new content was far removed from
the "move it, don't move it" bandwidth wasting that the original topic
had degenerated into.

Since I was posting a simple informative response to a particular topic
and didn't expect it to generate any followup traffic (silly me) I 
thought that flagging it with a proper topic line would let those who
didn't care for the topic hit 'n' quickly, while those who did care for
it could skip the "move it, don't move it" and still see this posting
had some new content.

>Now, if you had conducted this exchange via EMAIL rather than posting,
>there would have been no need to change the subject line.

This flamage should be replace with the next line ...

Perhaps meta-discussions of content worth should be made via EMAIL ?

>But as long as you persist in posting flamage in response to informational

The personal 'you' here is totally uncalled for.  The original comment,
on reflection, was only an attempt to be kind to the others in the group
and in no way a flame.  I should have noted that and just not posted...

>postings (specifically directed at answering a request for info that
>was prior published in the group, I might add), I'll continue to mutate
>the subject line to correctly reflect the new content/thread.

>i.e. if you don't like subject lines mutating, don't post stupid 
>flamage asking people to only talk about what you think is PC.

Speaking of posting stupid flamage ... YUM, Crow sure does taste good ...

Got any BBQ sauce? 

This bit of flamage was not, however, the hight of my stupidity ...

>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                    | I had been told that the best defense is a good
>>George Patterson -  | offense, so I made up my mind early in life to
>>                    | become as offensive as possible.
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>You've succeeded in achieving the goal stated in your .sig so you can
>retire now ...

Then, in an incredible 'coup de grace' I manage to jump headlong into
personal insult.  I think I've got a double order of Crow to deal with 
here ... how about a 5 gal. bucket of BBQ sauce ...

>-- 
>E. Michael Smith  ems@apple.COM
>
>"Nothing can keep an argument going like two persons who aren't
>sure what they're arguing about."   O.A.Battista

I should read my own .sig more often and remember to be more accepting.

All I can ask is that folks remember to never attribute to malace
that which is adequately explained by stupidity...

While I do think it is a good idea to mutate subject lines when the
content of the old subject line has degenerated into drek, I was totally
out of line in attacking George for a reasonable request to be more
aware of the effect that has on others in the group.  Please forgive me.

George, can you allow that I had a brain fault and find it in your
heart to forgive the bogus behaviour?  Please?

-- 

E. Michael Smith  ...!sun!apple!ems

'If you can dream it, you can do it'  Walt Disney

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