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From: sydnius@brahms.udel.edu (Brian E Flaherty)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: fun with inhalants
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:07:23 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Pulease! Most chlorinated hydrocarbons are really great alkylating agents. They
are REALLY bad for you to be coming in contact with high concentrations of.
Very very very bad idea to be inhaling them for any sort of anesthetic effect
that might ensue. I saw a friend of a friend (READ: IDIOT) who was inhaling
something out of a canister. I asked him what it was, and he said that "It's
whippits, man, like, want some?" I looked at the can. The idiot was inhaling
1,1,1 trichlorethane. He refused to stop doing it even after I told him how
bad it was. Geez.


      <sorry, no .sig file yet.>
From: sab@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Shawn Berg)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: LSD Tolerence
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:47:20 GMT
Distribution: alt.drugs
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Does anybody out there have any information (more than that is in the FAQ)
about LSD tolerence?  

Thanks,
-sb

E-mail:  sab@reef.cis.ufl.edu

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From: cjf49655@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck)
Subject: Re: Choline and smart drugs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:54:19 GMT

actually, in addition to upset stomach, there are a coupleother possible side
effects of DMAE...the book to which you refer(which is by ward Dean and John
Morgenthaler) also mentions dull headaches and muscle tenseness if the dose
is too high for you. they say this goes away if you lower the dose.  Also, they
say that if you are depressive or manic depressive DMAE or any acetylcholine 
precursor can deepen the depressive phase.
Another book on smart drugs is Mind Food and Smart Pills, by Pelton&Pelton.



-- 
Chuck Falzone
cjf49655@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: Cannabis smoke
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:56:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.175127.10151@nic.umass.edu> s4610160@titan.ucc.umass.edu (dicA deaH) writes:
>
>I learned in a Bio Of Cancer class awhile ago that many of the carcinogens
>are not water soluable so the bong water doean't filter them out.  This
>teacher said, in fact, that using a bong doesn't decrease one's intake
>of the main cancer-causing chemicals. 

Is there something better that can be used than water, that does filter out the
carcinogens?

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu



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From: hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Hager)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana addiction
Keywords: marijuana addiction
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:44:53 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University


	As near as I can determine, MJ is addictive in much the
same way that gambling is addictive or religion is addictive.
However, an MJ or hash addiction seems to be less personally or
societally destructive than either a gambling addiction or a
religion addiction.  Of the 3 I'd say that religion addiction
is the most destructive, particularly if it leads the addict
to proselytize and in other ways interfere in the lives of
other people.  Gamblers tend only to ruin their own lives and,
perhaps, their family's lives.  If MJ were legal, about the
worst outcome of an MJ/hash addiction would be to function like
the typical American couch potatoe.  However, one notable heavy
user (addict??) was Louis Armstrong, jazz trumpeter par excellance,
who toked up before every performance.  May have helped him ...


-- 
paul hager		hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
_Abstainer_, n.  A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying
himself a pleasure.  A total abstainer is one who abstains from 
everything but abstention, and especially from activity in the affairs
of others.		from _The Devil's Dictionary_ by Ambrose Bierce
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From: s8759859@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone)
Subject: Re: They Know! (Part II)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
	<1992Apr16.005359.24996@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<891034d.44.703461882@ace.acadiau.ca>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:57:28 GMT

In article <891034d.44.703461882@ace.acadiau.ca> 891034d@ace.acadiau.ca (PETER F. DEARMAN) writes:

>Some other stuff to listen to when you want to be similarly enlightened is:
>	   1) Sonic Youth!!! - especially Sister album.
>	   2) Dinosaur Jr.
>	   3) tape hiss (really)
>	   4) Butthole Surfers
>	   5) CAN
>	   6) The Crucifucks - Wisconsin album
>	   7) Brian Eno - Here come the warm jets (album)
>	   8) Industrial music is really neato too if you're feeling energized.
>
>Anyone else have some favourites to share?
>

	I would definitely recommend Butthole Surfers Psychic,
Powerless, Another Man's Sac, as well as their Rembrandt Pussyhorse.
But then again, I would recommend those at ANY time.  I think I'd've
gone crazy if I had heard Wisconsin, that album annoys the hell out of
me.
	I generally let someone else choose the muzak when tripping,
but one thing I REALLY enjoyed was a static TV station.  The fuzz was
doing some NIFTY stuff.  It was very 3d.  I watched it with sunglasses
on after that, and it was entirely different.  A must see.  It was
better than Cats.  I will watch it again and again.

--
T. Stone 
(s8759859@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
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From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Hemp paper
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:46:57 GMT

> The seeds are quite edible (hemp seed is supposed to have some
> interesting nutritional advantages).  However, thanks to the miracles
> of modern instrumentation technology, eating the seeds (which gives no
> drug effect) will cause "detectable quantities" of metabolites in
> uro-pharmacomancy (piss testing).

Are you serious? I wonder if that could work for our advantage..

"I failed by urine test? oh.. that must be because I cook with hemp
 seeds and hemp seed oil.. which are perfectly legal and nutritious."

etc...


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From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Legal Cocaine? (WAS Re: Drug legalization)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 12:22:30 GMT

In article <1992Mar31.010405.1985@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>Many people don't like the effect cocaine has on them.  In clinical studies
>of people taking cocaine for medical reasons (I believe it was free-base

Out of curiosity, what are the medical uses of cocaine, particularly
the alkaloid, other than as a topical anaesthetic?  If this were the
use, I could understand their not being overly enthused about local
anaesthesia...

>-Pete Zakel

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
From: jeffq@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Jeff Ishaq)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Jacob's Ladder drug
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:31:28 GMT
Organization: The Armory

I was contemplating doing a report on the Jacob's Ladder drug, but I'd first
like to know the approximate availability of information on this subject.  Un-
fortunately, I have no idea what the drug is called.  From the movie, I got
that it was named The Ladder, and a friend said the quip at the end of the
movie deemed it "B-Z or something like that."  I'd appriciate the real name of
this drug and maybe some suggested readings if anybody has them.  Thanks!

For those who have yet to see Jacob's Ladder (Incidentally, this is a really
good movie by which to trip; it pretty much guarantees an epic trip, if not
a bad trip...), see it.  The drug BZ or The Ladder or whatever is put into
a military group's food supply (quoth the movie, but I think it was in the
pot they smoked, par the government), utilizing the platoon as guinea pigs.
It was developed to turn them into killing machines.  They had the highest
kill of any platoon, but .. well at risk of spoiling the movie, it wasn't
just enemies in this count.  

To seed a third fruit of thought, what would the drug most resemble?  Perhaps
PCP and Acid?

-jq
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From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Kesey's back!
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 06:28:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

That is too wierd.  I've never heard that but I devour the Urantia book.

Chills and Shivers,

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
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From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Hemp paper
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:45:00 GMT

Wowsers!

I didn't realize that it was so difficult to find hemp paper.

As soon as I am able to get in contact with my friend who ordered it,
I will post up the adrress of the place. I am not sure if it is the 
same place.. but he also has the adress of a place that sells hemp
clothes.. (40% or was it 50% hemp and the rest cotton).. and hemp
seeds.. (sorry they've been irradiated so you can't grow em)..
but.. they are healthy... [insert bland statistics about just how
healthy they are]

I will post it up as soon as I can..


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From: jf@decuk.uvo.dec.com (Jason Flowers)
Subject: Re: fun with inhalants
Reply-To: jf@decuk.uvo.dec.com (Jason Flowers)
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd. CSC/UK
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:19:01 GMT





	Yep used to do it when I was 14/15 or so, EVO-STIK was the fave of
	that time....TIPP-EX thinners were good, anything with trichlorethane
	in it I think.....(I'm not a chemist, I think that was the stuff, or
	something sounding similar)

	..oh yes, then there's Butane gas.....

	All of this actually gave a wicked high, (and what a BUZZ!!!!) but....

	personally I don't recommended doing it, people have suffocated from
	their first hit out of a gas bottle and I can't quote any medical
	text but I'm sure that glue etc. is not condusive to good health, I
	seem to recall reading something about carcinogens?

	So yah its a nice buzz but I'd go for something safer. 

	J

	
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From: peters@buster.cis.udel.edu (Shirley Peters)
Subject: Re: Quiz Bowl: We are in finals
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:33:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.010114.4720@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Paul Hager" <hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> writes:

>...  This sort of thing makes me very uncomfortable.

I'm sure smarties like you make them very uncomfortable, too!  :-) :->
-- 
Shirley Peters                                       peters@dewey.udel.edu
U. of Delaware/A.I. duPont Institute                peters%udel.edu@udelvm
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                        I'd rather be sleeping!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Hemp paper
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:56:16 GMT
Portal-Origin: Usenet

Hemp paper is alive and well. I am a member of the local hemp organization.
They just ordered a ream of hemp paper. Actually I believe it is like 30%
hemp 70% cotton. But it is at least a step in the right direction.

The paper is relatively inexpensive.. I think it was 3 cents a page.
In fact the college bookstore is going to be selling it next year as an
alternative to regular paper.

Hemp paper as I understand holds up against the rigors of water a lot
better..

Besides.. I support hemp products because I think it is one of the primary
ways to let people realize that the plant that the government has banned
is extremely beneficial to the public.
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From: dean@vexcel.com (dean alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:50:23 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder, CO

In article <joshua.703136713@coombs> joshua@coombs.anu.edu.au (Joshua Geller) writes:
>feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>
>>Currently illegal Drugs *will* be legalized. It will happen when the
>>government, having buried itself in deficits, realizes that its cash
>>flow position will improve if they start taxing drug sales and stop
>>pouring money down a rathole prosecuting and imprisoning people who
>>engage in drug use.
>
>lots of people have good jobs from drugs being illegal; and there is
>a large group of people making money from the trade. these two things
>(the police and organized crime bureaucracies (if the latter can be so
>referred to)) are the biggest obstacles to the legalization of all drugs.
>there is an alternative to the legalization of drugs; a more or less
>totalitarian state. I agree that drugs will eventually be legalized.
>Unfortunately, I see a period of effective fascism before this happens
>(and possibly a revolution).
>
>josh

Forfeiture is a way that government has learned how to make a profit on
the illegal drug trade.  It certainly is an impediment to legalization.
We had an amendment to the Colorado legislature (supported by the
local newspaper) that would have required criminal conviction to
uphold forfeiture but it was defeated.
-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
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From: drk20509@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (mighty odin)
Subject: Re: kids and LSD
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:35:45 GMT

chaz@leland.Stanford.EDU (charles andre) writes:
>an early age?  Is there any evidence that acid could be more harmful
>to the brain of a young kid/teenager as opposed to the effects
>on the adult brain?  What do you all think?  Thanks in advance for
>any information.

	If you want evidence...good luck! My experience suggests that;
LSD may uncover repressed turmoil/uncertainties, and may exacerbate
already existent psychological abnormalities. But for normals, there
seem to be little or no negative _effects_ as you seem to be using the
word. If you will accept opinion, though, heres mine; 
	I don't think that an immaure person should trip. I think 
tripping allows a person to reevaluate their impressions of reality,
and gives hem chance to reformulate them. So, someone who distubs their
mind-set before it is completely formed may be asking for trouble.
They may not develop he perceptions of reality that non-trippers
entertain. They may not know what it is like to not have ever tripped,
and thus will be distancing themselves from the majority of other people.
This may not be inherently bad, but seems roublesome in a modern 'advanced'
society.
	ps this turned out to be more speculation than opinion...critiques
are welcome!


                        !help stamp out reality!

                             deadwolfkeiner
                           deadwolf@uiuc.edu
             University of Illinois @ Cham/bana, Illinois

                      (A Meta-Theoretical Odinist)
From: ftaunter@cats.ucsc.edu (Benjamin Jacob Philli Schneider)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD in your eyes
Keywords: lsd eyes
Date: 17 Apr 92 07:12:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


In article <35131@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> sab@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Shawn Berg) writes:
>Would the effective dose of LSD be lower if it was taken through the eyes
>instead of taken orally?  Would LSD cause damage or pain if it came in 
>contact with a person's eyes?
>
>   -sb

I did this last year.  Now that I think back, I don't know why, but I did.  
The acid does hurt when it goes in your eye, but probably not as bad as you
would think.  Not only this, but it started to work, or shall I say I could 
feel the effects, after about five minutes.  Now I don't know if the acid was
inferior, but the trip was not as good as about every other one I've had.
Perhaps not all the acid got into my eyes.  I presently still have 20/20 vision,
and have not felt any harm from the acid through the eye trick.  My advice to 
you is, try it if you like.  You might want to take, one in each eye plus one
on the tongue just in case.  But please read the warning on the package.
"Possible side effect are a strong sharp pain in the eye, which happens to be
bearable so don't let this scare you it is only for a few seconds, strong      
hallucinations both visual and auditory, and finally weird thoughts."  
						Have fun,

                                                Benjammin
beara
"Possible 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: voss.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Subject: ginseng???
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:35:21 GMT

     I know this sounds totally stupid but some drug user I know said it 
had some pleasurable side effects. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: shrooms...pot and ...(cont)
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:25:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr17.172510.15790
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Apr17.101745.2394@ducvax.auburn.edu>, kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>In article <lamontg.703485169@milton>, lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>> Cocaine isn't physically addictive, alcohol fits the criteria, and your
>
>*WHAT?*  It certainly _is_ physically addictive!

Cocaine or alcohol??

A substance is physically addictive if and only if withdrawal from use
produces physical symptoms.  Alcohol does (for very very heavy users);
cocaine does not.

Cocaine is *psychologically* addictive.  That means the addict craves it
when it is withdrawn.

BTW, tobacco is quite physically addictive.  Have you ever seen a chain
smoker an hour after he/she ran out of cigarettes (with no other smokers
around)?  Shake city.  I like to give them hell:  "That wouldn't happen if
you smoked marijuana instead."

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I think I've lost my -- ummmmm --
                                  Train of thought?
                                                     Yeah!  That's it!
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Bicycle Day
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:48:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: w

Next year will then be the 50th anniversary.  Something *must* be done.
Let's start thinking about how we can bring this off in a very big way. 
Let's blow away America's fear of this.  Which day should we celebrate?
I go for the 16th.  It was the germinal experience.  I hearby declare
April 16 to be Albert Hofmann day now and forever worldwide.  I can do
that can't I?

Peace,

Bob

-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
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From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: tongue firmly in cheek
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:34:04 GMT
  <56639@cup.portal.com> <1992Apr4.082826.13283@nntp.hut.fi>
  <56937@cup.portal.com>
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Twenty years ago, David Nolan came up with a way out of the
confusion caused by the conventional left-right dichotomy.  It
was a two-dimensional representation of political views, as opposed
to the one-dimensional left-right axis.  I am about to post an
opinion quiz (the "World's Smallest Political Quiz") based on this
representation.  I would first like to make a few additional points.

                   Personal ^            Anarchism
                   Freedom  | Left      Libert.
                            |   \
                            |    \
                            |     \
                            |Com   \ 
                            |  Fas   Right
                            +--------------> Economic Freedom

The conventional "left-right axis" runs diagonally, between the
social democrats (who advocate sexual, artistic, and pharmaceutical
freedom, but State control or confiscation of property) and the 
conservatives (who advocate property rights, but State controls over
consensual sex acts etc.).  At the midpoint are the "moderates".  Notice
that at every point along this axis, some mixture of coercive State
intervention against voluntary, consensual behavior is advocated.
Communists and Fascists, who cheerfully snuff out both kinds of rights,
belong at the (0,0) point.

To me, the most important thing about the Nolan chart is that
it acknowledges that libertarians exist!
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From: zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: Hemp paper
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:29:51 GMT


	I read in _The Emporer_ about hemp clothes for sale, and I was
wondering about the legality of that...Or is that bogus?

	I was wondering because I had an idea to pritn the Free Journal on
hemp paper.  (Maybe it would be expensive because it isn't in wide use, so
I'd only print a few of the issues on it...)  Then I could say, "Not printed
from recycled paper, but from hemp paper-- 1 acre of hemp produces as much
paper per year as 4.1 acres of trees"  (Is that the right number, BTW?)
-- 
Sameer Parekh zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM zane@infopls.chi.il.us| 
ap.3684@layout.Berkeley.EDU ___________________________/
___________________________/ STOP The War on Rights
Restore liberty in the United States - Vote Libertarian 1992
From: Ben Masel <bmasel@igc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 07 Apr 92 23:00 PDT
Subject: MESSAGE TO CLINTON "I Didn't Inhal
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1301300129:000:978
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!bmasel    Apr  7 23:00:00 1992


IT'S OK, I DIDN'T INHALE

I 've just returned from the Clinton victory party here in
Madison.

Arrived sort of late, missed the TV crews, but the stunt was still
interesting. Lit up a joint and all the suits fled the room.
Couple of the younger Clinton fans and the volunteer coordinator
stuck around to hear a message I hope will be delivered. Told them
unless Bill admits he enjoyed the pot he didn't inhale, we will
collect the 2,000 signatures to put Jack Herer on the Wisconsin
Ballot as a Grassroots Party candidate for President in November.
Reminded them I had recieved 13,000 votes in my Republican primary
race for Governor in 1990, and that those 13,000 could be their
margin of victory or defeat in this state in November.

This stunt is repeatable. Show up at his HQ or a local function
carrying only 1 joint. Fire it up, blow some smoke around the
room. Say "It's OK, I didn't inhale." Leave a printed message.
Post an account to talk.pol.drugs.

Enjoy, Ben Masel

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