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From: ctopp@cup.portal.com (Carol F Topp)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Want Birth instructor to come to my home
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:53:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

(I have tried to limit this post to the San Francisco Bay Area)

I am looking for a highly recommended Birthing instructor who is
willing to come to my home to give instruction to my husband and
me. I am 33 weeks along in my second pregnancy and am confined to
bed rest due to preterm labor. During my first pregnancy, I was
signed up for classes, but they hadn't started by the time preterm
labor started. I had a fast, intense labor, with a late epidural
which maybe took the pain down a level, but I didn't miss a thing 
and required a lot of local for the stitching up process.

I signed up for a refresher course, thinking that a course
for first time parents isn't what we need. Again, I went into
labor a week before they were supposed to start.

I am hoping to find, on short notice, someone who can give us
some instruction on ways to handle labor and feel more in control.
Ideally, I would have taken a Bradley course. I am hoping that
the pregnancy will last 3 or 4 more weeks, but there is no way
of knowing. 

I live in Mountain View and my husband's work hours can be flexible
to accomadate most times of the day. 

Please E-mail any suggestions you may have. My ob group has been
shying away from the private instructors and recommeding the
hospital/clinic/YWCA based classes.

Thanks
Carol
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med
From: lynch@ils.nwu.edu (Richard Lynch)
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:15:00 GMT

Please start trimming chi.general from the header.
Thanks.
-- 
"TANSTAAFL"     lynch@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine)
Subject: Re: Birthday Ideas (in need of)
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:37:41 GMT

For a two-year-old, some suggestions I have heard are:

(1)  Play a "matching" game.  e.g., get a bunch of pairs of socks, shoes,
mittens, etc.  String up a low clothesline.  Have one of each pair on the
clothesline, another in a pile.  Encourage the kids to pick one item
off the clothesline and find the one that matches in the pile.

(2)  Basketball.  Get some large laundry baskets and some large balls.
Have them toss the balls into the laundry basket.  In practice, this
seems to work best if some adult holds the basket a bit off the ground,
so the kids don't climb in.

(3)  Follow the string.  Tie a string to a stuffed animal (one per kid --
maybe get cheap stuffed animals and give them as "prizes").  Hide the bear,
roll the string off to some other place.  Give each kid a string end
and have them follow the string to the stuffed animal.  Watch to be sure
none of the kids wraps their string around their neck.

Personally, for Anna I probably will just do free play, with a crafts
table for making hats or collages or something, a playdough table for
doing playdough (and maybe simple puzzles), and some other areas as
well.  We, the adults, can sit back, drink coffee, and relax.

-- Misty
From: anne@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Anne Paulson)
Subject: Re: camping with a baby
Organization: Stanford University
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:26:17


Paula Burch wonders whether she should get a Polartec (aka
Synchilla, polarfleece) blanket and make it into a sleeping bag for
her baby.

The short answer is yes.
Polartec, the world's greatest fabric, is fantastic for camping
applications, because it's nice and warm and will not stay wet for
more than about two seconds, and it's indestructible.  We had a piece
of polarfleece about a yard and a half long that was originally bought
prebaby for a cat blanket.  After Will was born, it migrated
to the bike trailer, both to keep Will warm while I rode, and to be a
park blanket.  It also did duty as a changing pad.  This summer I took
Will on a week-long bike camping trip on the Oregon coast.  I thought
that it would be cool and foggy (it was) so half of the polarfleece
came along as a trailer blanket, and the other turned into a pair of
fleece pants for Will.

Using polarfleece for a warm-weather sleeping bag is a good idea.  I'd
probably use short ties rather than snaps because they're easier to
sew on, but either would work.  If there is access to water (a stream,
say) you wouldn't have to put a spitup liner in, because you could
just wash out the polarfleece every day.

Rather than buying a premade "blanket", why not just buy some
polarfleece yardage?  Polarfleece doesn't ravel, so you don't have to
finish the edges.  The Rain Shed (503-753-8900) carries four types
(light- and heavyweight, stretch and nonstretch) in many colors and
prints for about 16 dollars a yard;  the nonstretch varieties are
60" wide.


-- Anne
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: baby backpacks
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:41:31 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct6.154755.17261@u.washington.edu> wolffie@u.washington.edu writes:

>The *Tough Traveller* backpack (the more expensive model) is a good unit  
>that I've been quite satisfied with.  One thing impressive about it is that  
>the designers came up with the only *quickly* adjustable back height  
>adjustment I've ever seen on a backpack; this is important because Mom & Dad  
>are seldom the same height. 

I can also vouch for the tough traveler: 

Anyone looking for the pack should know they have five models in the product
line, I am familiar with four of them:

COLT - cheap little light weight pack
MONTANA - MOre rugid then the colt but not a very good frame
????? - middle of the line, first model with decent frame.
KID CARRIER - Good Backpack 120-150$ depending on where you buy
	      it, lot's of adjustments, very comfortable for a full
	      days use. Carries up to 50 pounds in blue and red.
BRONCO or ???? - top of the line , adds better lumbar support carries
		 up to 60 pounds, comes in camoflauge (sp?) colors
From: chirlian@fieser.brynmawr.edu (L.E. Chirlian)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: maternity lingerie
Date: 28 Sep 1992 12:56:37 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


	I didn't have any problem with lingerie while I was pregnant.
I wore the same nightgown all through (short, sort of full, cotton).
I was depressed however, when it no longer fit me _after_ I gave birth
(too tight in the chest :-)).  It didn't matter anyway because I had
to wear things that opened down the front (I never liked the slits
either).
	Other things changed while I was nursing.  I had to buy a new
robe becuase my terry cloth robe was too rough on my nipples (I bought
a cotton flannel one, but I think any smooth material would have been
fine) and I had to start wearing slippers (getting out of bed in the
middle of the night my feet got cold).  I tried nursing in bed but we
never liked it.  
	For some strange reason, wearing slippers signifies being a
"grown-up".  Probably because my mother always wore slippers and
always nagged me to as well ("don't you want to put slippers on,
aren't your feet cold?")  I stopped wearing them once Libby started
sleeping through the night, although when it's real cold I do wear
them since they're around anyway.  
	Anyway that's me.  Having a baby didn't make me feel grown up
but wearing slippers did.  Go figure.  
				Lisa

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 Lisa Chirlian                                  chirlian@fieser.brynmawr.edu
 Department of Chemistry, Bryn Mawr College, Bryn Mawr, PA 19010
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Washing Diapers with Tide
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:05:00 GMT

In article <BvAyAv.EH6@world.std.com> rgering@world.std.com (Rebecca J Gering) writes:
>A friend who just had a baby is considering using Tide Ultra Free to
>wash cloth diapers instead of Dreft (which I've always heard is the
>recommended detergent).
>
>Does anyone know if Tide Ultra Free is comparable to (i.e., as safe
>as) Dreft?  If it is I'd like to give it a try as it's much cheaper
>than Dreft (which is why she's considering it, too).
>

When my son was 6 months I stopped using dreft on his clothes and just
used regular detergent (cheap generic). At 10 months I started using
Tide Ultra Free (then called Tide unscented) on his diapers with no
problem. I also switched to doing all laundry with it. 

I will be interesed in this thread, since I am considering continuing
using Tide Ultra Free from the beginning (or after one box of Dreft - just
to make sure I dont have a baby with sensitive skin) with my next baby.

Laura Floom
From: mgaudrea@afit.af.mil (Michele L.D. Gaudreault)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up"  (was: Re: maternity lingerie)
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:57:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: afit.1992Oct2.205753.11103
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct2.180749.29872@alw.nih.gov> paula@helix.nih.gov (Paula Moore) writes:
>
>Anyone else have these "I guess this means I'm a "grown-up" " experiences?
>
For me, it was when my mom referred to my dad as "Jim" in a conversation
with me, as opposed to "Dad".  Made me feel like she considered me a
peer.  It made me feel really good.  Walked around on cloud nine for
days.  I was only a freshman in college -- I soon learned how
"ungrown-up" I really was!

Michele
From: dlin@weber.ucsd.edu (Diane Lin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How Polite! (or cute things they say: age 2)
Date: 28 Sep 1992 22:16:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu
Summary: words were right, concept was a bit off

We were at Imaginarium (a toy store) today, playing with the Brio trains.  
There was a boy of about 3 standing in one corner, and Dylan wanted to get
by him to push the train through the tunnel.  Dylan looked at the
boy and said "Excuse me, please."  (Well, it came out as "'scu me
peas" but the other moms and I understood him :-0)  He then gave the
boy about one second to comply and then started to hip check him out
of the way!  (I think the boy was more stunned by the fact that Dylan
was talking to him than anything else.)  Needless to say, I was quick
to point out to Dylan that while I appreciated his independent use
of polite phrases, accompanying them with brute force wasn't a great
idea :-).
-- 
Diane C. Lin			"Live now; make *now* always the
dlin@weber.ucsd.edu	         most precious time.  Now will 
(Dylan's mom, 21 months)	 never come again." (ST:TNG)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: GeraldR@sunfish.ratsys.com (Gerald Ruderman)
Subject: Re: Giving birth under water
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:35:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.213600.20428@pencom.com> twriter1@pencom.com writes:

>I am interested in delivering my babies under water (when it's 
>time to have them).  I forget the name of the method.  
>Does anyone have any info?  Pros and cons? Anyone out there
>ever done it?

I went to a talk on it abotu 10 years ago. It was "popular" in the Soviet 
Union, don't know what that status there today. There was also a French 
doctor doing it.

Gerald Ruderman                                   geraldr@ratsys.com
From: dudding@sallyride.crd.ge.com (Kate Dudding)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Where to get the Tough Traveler?
Keywords: baby back pack
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:30:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

How to get a Tough Traveler a catalog:

Tough Traveler
1012 State St.
Schenectady, NY 12307
(518) 377-8526

(800)468-6844

At one time, TT told me that it was cheaper to order their child
carriers through LL Bean rather that directly from TT (due to the volume
discount that TT gave to LL Bean).  I don't know if that is still true.

BTW TT also makes a diaper bag (which we now use as our pool bag), luggage and
back packs, all of which we have been very pleased with.  

I have no affliation with them except as a satisfied customer.  
(We bought hiking boots there, and the stitching on our son's broke in one spot 
4 months later.  They replaced the boots with ones THE NEXT SIZE LARGER 
since he was almost ready for that size...  Now don't you all wish you lived in
Schenectady?)

-- 
Kate Dudding                                   dudding@crd.ge.com
GE Corporate Research and Development
Bldg. KW, Room C315
PO Box 8, Schenectady, NY 12301                (518) 387-7164
From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: good grades=good school=job??
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:50:12 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.



I'm sorry, I don;t have the post at hand, but someone was talking about
motivating his child to do his homework, so that he will ultimately
make the connection netween good grades, a good university, and a good
job.

First of all, I think there are very few kids who make the connection
between university and grades until, say Junior or Senior year, no
matter how much you attempt to dispel the idea that they not are going
to spend the rest of their lives at football pep rallies.

Second, it seems really dangerous to lead anyone to believe that
a college education at any school is going to = good job.  Have you
looked at the economy lately?  What if things are just as bad when
your kids have reached the work pool and find themselves, no matter
what their grades, education, talents, etc. UNABLE TO GET A JOB
RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE?  That is reality, and to attempt to underscore
anything else is quite unrealistic, both for yourself, and for
your kids.  I am 22, have been out of school for a year, and still
can't get a job.  My parents act as if this is my fault.  Their
logic is this:  "We may be in the middle of a recession, but since
you are OUR child, you must be the exception to the rule."  This
has caused quite a rift in our relationship, and my parents sigh
dejectedly when told that, no, I am not yet employed.

Finally, what if you have pushed your child all his life, and then
he decides that he doesn't want to go to college?  Not everyone
has to go.  A friend's younger brother has severe learning disabilities
and decided that post-high scvhool education wasn't for him.  He
is now training to be a mechanic, and is happy about it.  Both
of his parents have doctorates, and beleive very strongly in\
education, but also have the sense to recognize that it is not for
everyone, and are in turn thrilled that he has found someething
he likes to do.  Isn't that what ultimately counts? 

Karen
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Kid Actors (was:Nostalgia TV) 
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:28:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.061700.18696@csc.canberra.edu.au> Stacey Curtis <sec@softserver.canberra.edu.au> writes:
>
>No, I wanted to be Sabrina in Bewitched, Jeannie in I Dream of Jeanie,
>the eldest daughter (I forget her name, was it Judy?, she was in love
>with Dan?) in Lost in Space, or Ginger in Gilligans Island.  I was really
>nuts over  "The  Banana Splits" show, Anyone remember that?  Ah, memories.

Who remembers the World's Two Worst Child Actors, Anissa Jones and
Johnny Whittaker, who played Buffy and Jody on Family Affair?  I watched
that show on cable once when I was home sick and I could not believe
how truly AWFUL those kids were as actors.

The Brady Bunch was cute, but those kids were probably chosen because of
their physical characteristics as opposed to acting talent.

Some of the finest child-acting I've seen lately was done by the two
boys who play in the movie Radio Flyers, now out on video.  I don't know
where they found those kids but I think they're both great.

-Nance
-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
                            (_) \(_)
From: handle@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Handleton)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Car Seats After an Accident
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:51:09 GMT
Reply-To: handle@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Handleton)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


  I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure I started this thread when I
posted my experience as a tidbit of info.  I'd like to jump back in
to comment on some of the responses.  I'm not gonna quote because I
haven't figured out my editor yet.
  Firstly, I am somewhat embarrassed that I did not think to immediately
replace the car seat after our accident.  I didn't make the connection
between helmets and car seats and seatbelts.  The sesat was not marked
in any way with the manufacturer's recommendation to replace it as are
most helmets I've seen.  It was a heart-stopping thought that I might
done something (keep the seat) that would have been a threat to my son's
safety.  On the other hand, I had to come up with proof for the insurance
company that the seat should be replaced.  I can't imagine an insurance
company setting themselves up for a lawsuit when the seat fails in another
accident and they should have replaced it.
  Secondly, (and lastly, unless I think of something else) what seems
to have gotten lost in the quoting, Century replaced our seat for FREE,
we paid only return shipping(~$12.00).  I don't know what they did with
it, I imagine it was inspected and tested or cut up for detailed inspection.
Maybe it was recycled in some fashion, I dunno. This may be a common
practice in the industry. Or not.

Just another $0.02 flyin' down the wire.

Bob, (Oh, its me)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: 92 Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:39:19 GMT

On 6 Oct 92 21:10:36 GMT, kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover) said:

David> Ah, I believe that was Major Major Major, who was promoted from
David> lieutenant through Captain in record time.  Needless to say,
David> Major Major Major Major had not the slightest chance of a making Colonel.

There was indeed a Major Major here at Edwards AFB once.  At the same
time we also had a Captain Marvel.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
From: cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Cute things they say, husbands
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:15:54 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: cew@pelham

Last night our 2.8 year old son was in rare form.  One  minute
he was laughing, then crying, and then whining and on and
on it went.  After a post bath crying jag my husband said
It's one of those evenings, mood swings all over the
place.  I said maybe he has PMS.  My husband thot for a
minute and then said you mean Pester Mommy Syndrome.

Cathryn W. Chiesa
cew@med.unc.edu
From: millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Washing Diapers with Tide
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:42:37 GMT
Reply-To: belize!millerj@steinmetz.UUCP (Julia K. Miller)
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development


	My doctor told me to try washing a few tee shirts in regular detergent and
have the baby wear those for a few days.  If the baby gets a rash on his chest
then go back to Dreft for awhile.  Later you can try again.  It will only take
a day or two for the rash to appear.  If one does, go back to Dreft and see if
it goes away.
	Unfortunately, my baby developed a rash on his chest that went away when
I went back to Dreft.  But then I have reactions to a lot of soaps and
detergents so I'm not surprised he does.


Julia
From: wang@optigfx.optigfx.com (Alice Wang)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up"  (was: Re: maternity lingerie)
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:06:37 GMT
Organization: Optigraphics Corporation, San Diego

In article <1992Oct2.180749.29872@alw.nih.gov> paula@helix.nih.gov (Paula Moore) writes:
>
>Anyone else have these "I guess this means I'm a "grown-up" " experiences?
>

For me, it was the first time I went grocery shopping on my own
without the "list of things to get" from Mom!  There I was, pushing
the cart around and I was free to get ANYTHING I want!  Now, that's
grown-up!

Alice Wang
Mom to Christine, 9 mo
wang@optigfx.com
From: sander@cwi.nl (Sander Plomp)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Getting pregnant while nursing
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:43:51 GMT


Our son Cees is 11mo and I really want to get pregnant again. The
problem is that Cees is still nursing a lot. He is eating a lot
of solids, but also wants to nurse at least 6 times a day (and at
night). I don't begrudge him his nursing, but I want to know how
it influences my pregnancy chances.

My period returned when Cees was 8.5mo and since then I have had
one other (at 10.5mo). I am taking my temperature, but that is
moving all over the place and not really helpful in indicating my
ovulation (maybe due to nursing at night?). I haven't used any
contraceptive measurements since his birth (unless you count
nursing).

I'd like to know of other women who nursed and got pregnant. How
long did it take you to get pregnant? How did you know you were
pregnant, when your period wasn't regular yet and you didn't want
to spend too much money on pregnancy tests? How did the pregnancy
affect your nursing/milk supply?

I will post a summary of the answers I receive.
Thanks in advance.

                               Karen Plomp (mom to Cees, 11mo)
                               e-mail: Sander.Plomp@cwi.nl

-- 
Sander Plomp                                    Internet: Sander.Plomp@cwi.nl
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