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Subject: Re: Jan(n?) Jensen (was Heinrik (?) Andersen)
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In message: <MARTIN.92Oct1173502@kilo.inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de

(Martin Protzen) writes

>   J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross) writes:


>   >There is only one club called "Rangers FC", there is only one club called
>   >"Celtic FC", what's confusing? Bayern Munich is a direct translation of the


>What about Queens Park Rangers, Carrick Rangers ... ? Cork Celtic ? Well, Cork
>Celtic disappeared. But if you check British tables you will find lots ...

I'll spell it out slowly for you ...

There is one team called "Rangers FC"

There are lots of teams called "Somethingelse Rangers FC".

Similarly for Celtic.

In message <1992Oct01.140859.44660@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk
(Matthew Moore) writes:

>J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross) writes:


>>There is only one club called "Rangers FC", there is only one club called
>>"Celtic FC", what's confusing? Bayern Munich is a direct translation of the
>>German club's name, Glasgow Rangers is tacking on an extra superfluous

>A direct translation of 'Bayern Muenchen' into English
>is 'Bavarian Munich'.  (ie the reason I chose them as an example was
>that what they are called is not the same as their name).

Thanks for the education, I should have thought of that having been in
Bayern recently.

>People tack on the name of the city to famous clubs, such as
>Glasgow Celtic, London Arsenal (thats what the German newspapers call
>them) where the city of origin is not obvious from the name, and to
>avoid confusion with other clubs with similar names.

So how do you cope with Dundee and Dundee United. No don't answer that
'cos the English haven't learn to cope with it yet. Differentiating
between Rangers and Queen's Park Rangers is not any more difficult.
Perhaps one day the media here will realise that the Belgian town of
Mechelen has more than one team and stop referring to KV Mechelen as
Mechelen. 

I think there are other better ways of avoiding confusing such as Rangers,
Glasgow or Celtic (Sco) or whatever. Too many people seem to think the
team names are actually Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic.
 
>Sometimes even home supporters 'get it wrong' :
>('We dont what what the animals say ..... the Glasgow
>Celtic will be there!').

The "Glasgow" is only in there 'cos it wouldn't scan otherwise :-)

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