From: Babak Sehari
Subject: Re: Question about rape
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:10:37 GMT

In <1993Jan10.144504.1059@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> ahmed@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ahmed El-Habbash) writes:

>In <babak.726633776@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu> Babak Sehari writes:

>>----
>>The punishment is different for different situations:

>>1. If He is married, the punishment is death.

>>2. If He is unmarried, the punishment is 80 whip.

>>3. If He is insane, the punishment is much easier. Probably, he would be
>>   committed to a mental hospital.


>The answer is not relevant to the original (hypothetical and sarcastic)
>question, and it is incorrect.

>First: Rape is not treated like adultary. Rape would lead to capital
>punishment, It is a form of "Harabah".

>Second: Even for adultary that you may be referring to , 
>the punishment mentioned in (2) of 80 stripes is not correct. It is 100
>stripes.

>Third, I don't like to give answers to this type of questions, and I
>hate reading wrong (not based on real knowledge), and irrelevant answers.

>Ahmed.

>>                    With highest regards,
>>                         Babak   Sehari.
>-- 
>Ahmed I. El-Habbash, 
>Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
>Tel: office: +353-1-7021524,  Home: +353-1-937402.
>	

It really depends on the specific branch you are following. Wahabi's version
might be 100, were as shafeii's version might be 60, and ....

Regarding rape, as I recall from "rostam ol tavarikh" which is just history
book and not a religious book, the defense of rape punishment for a kings
brother was that, he was away from his wife or his wife was sick...
The book talks about 700 years ago.

There are differences between different branches of islam, regarding
almost all crimes.  For example, we beleive if one steal to feed himself
and his family because he could not find other means to feed his family
and the amount is less then a threshold he won't be punished at all.  He
might spend couple of days in jail, and that's all.  Other differences are
for example, in Soudi Arabia women can not drive a car! In Iran women are
in the army.  As mater of fact conservative Christian Americans are much 
closer to our version of Islam, than Soudi Wahabi version.  Even though, there
are many things in common between all branches of Islam, but interpratation of
things are different. Another example, we usually pray 3 times a day where
as many other branches pray 5 times.  Even though, we pray 17 "rokat" like
other branches, we divide it into 3 parts once in the moring, one in the
noon until dusk, and after dusk until mid night.  Here is our division for
example:
                 Ours                     Others
Morning:           2 (Sobh)                 2 (Sobh)

Noon:              -                        4(Zohr)
                   ^
afternoon:         |                        4 (Asr)
                  4 (Zohr)
                  4 (Asr)
                   |
                   V
                   _
Dusk               ^                        3(maghrab)
                   |
                  3(maghrab)
                  4(asha)
night              |                        4(Asha)
                   |
                   V
Mid night          -


This means we can pray from noon until Dusk both the Zohr and Asr one after
the other.  Where as other branches can pray Zohr from noon until the afternoon
and Asr from After noon to dusk.

                        With highest regards,
                             Babak   Sehari.