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From:         "Lee Jaffe,
              Microcomputer & Network Services"
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Subject:      RE: Reference via internet

I agree that this is a transition period.  Many of the resources that
some of us are finding very useful, are very new and not universally
accessible.  It would be unrealistic to expect a complete retooling
of the profession in such a short time.

On the other hand, there is definitely a shift towards networks for
distributing information.  Libraries, and reference librarians in
particular, will have more and more trouble meeting their mandates
if they choose to ignore the nets as a resource.  As long as this is
clear and there is general acceptance that we are moving in this
direction, I think we have grounds for agreement.

However, I think that those who report encountering resistance are
not deluded.  There is a strain of conservatism or fear that tinges
some of our colleagues' responses to this technology.  The question
is what are we going to do about it?

-- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:56:44 EDT
From:         "Howard Curnoles,
              Kuhn Library - Reference Department" <CURNOLES@UMBC.BITNET>
Subject:      Reference Service and Internet

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
        Many of us are reading this list in part to learn
more about using the Internet in reference, but many answers
to specific questions are too short to be of any practical
use. For instance someone just replied that they got some
information " Found by using .... on Illinet.  accessible by
internet. " This is like telling someone, to use the Internet/
Interstate Highway system parable, you can go from Baltimore
to Washington by using the Interstate Highway system. It's
just not of much practical use. If we're on this list we know
how to get on the Internet, but we probably don't know the way
to Illinet, but would like to.
        Please make your replies more instructive by including
addresses, methods of access (gopher @, ect.), and any other
info that might be necessary such as "login as guest". The
answers to the Internet Hunt questions are usually good
examples of instructive answers.

                        Thanks all,

                        Bud Curnoles
                Electronic Reference Services Librarian
                Albin O. Kuhn Library
                UMBC (University of Maryland, Baltimore County)
                Curnoles@UMBC2.UMBC.edu
                Curnoles@UMBC.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:05:57 EDT
From:         Nancy Herrington <LIBNJH%SUVM.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Reference via internet
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Please read the most excellent article in the January 1993 issue
of ONLINE.  Tom Keays, the author, is a colleague at the Science
and Technology Library and a master teacher and guide to the
Internet for all of us.

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   (O O) hoot!    Science & Technology Library
   / v           Syracuse University
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   m m/          BITNET & INTERNET:  libnjh@suvm.acs.syr.edu
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From: liboff12@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Douglas Morton)
Subject: Re: Canadian Public Opinion
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:54:14 GMT

In article <009673E0.B4422260.4332@vax.cord.edu> MOLLY FINK <fink@vax.cord.edu> writes:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>--Help!
>
>I have a professor who is interested in finding either a) an index
>of the Globe and Mail newspaper of Canada-- or b) an index of Cnadian
>public opinion poll data.
>
>He is specifically working on public opinion surrounding the Free Trade
>Agreement for the  years 1986- on...  Do either of these things exist?
>And if so, how can a small academic library in Moorhead Minnesota get
>them?
>
>Any help will be most welcome!!
>Thanks
>Molly R. Fink
>Fink@vax.cord.edu

I can't recommend an index of Canadian opinion polls but access to the Globe
yes.
Online:  Globe and Mail can be searched full text since Nov. 1977
         Contact Infoglobe in Toronto, ON,  (416) 585-5662
         It can also be searched as an indexed newspaper (not full text
         and no abstracts) in Canadian Business & Current Affairs, Dialog
         file 262.
You say you're a small library, you aren't likely to sign up with Infoglobe
(purveyors of Globe & Mail full text online). Try CBCA on Dialog.


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Davis Centre Library                                         /  / |  |  |  |
University of Waterloo Library                             /  /   |  |  |  |
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From:         Margaret Hendley <liboff16@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject:      Re: bibliotherapy

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Prof. Joseph Gold, English Department at the University of Waterloo,
Waterloo Ontario, N2L 3G1 is considered an expert in bibliotherapy.  he
teaches courses in this area and has published a book. His telephone is
519-885-1211-ext.3965.

margaret Hendley
Head, Reference and Collection Dev., Porter Library
University of Waterloo
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:48:10 EDT
From:         JHELMS@VUNET.VINU.EDU
Subject:      Addr: Downloading Searches from Dialog/BRS/Epic

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I'm hopeful that someone out there in reference/library land will
provide an answer as how to download search results from Dialog,
BRS, or EPIC as a file through the INTERNET.I access the INTERNET
through an IBM mainframe running VM/CMS.  Recently, I began using
the INTERNET to search the online vendors named above.  Since I
haven't figured this process out, I've been printing via print screen.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.


       ****************************************************
       *  Joseph H. Helms*
       *  Reference Librarian  *
       *  Shake Learning Resources Center*
*Vincennes University (Junior College)*
*  Vincennes, IN  47591*
       *  jhelms@vunet.vinu.edu*
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:06:54 EDT
From:         "Don Lanier (815) 395-5658" <U17113%UICVM.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Reference via Internet
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We use the Internet regularly in reference service - both for ready
reference questions answered by electronic books and information
sources and for literature searches via NLM, BRS, etc.  Connecting,
downloading, and file management are facilitated greatly by Internet
when compared to modem connecting.  For those expressing some dismay
with navigating the Internet, I can only hope you gain access to an
Internet Gopher soon.  Gopher menu access/connecting to the Internet
world of information sources is fantastic!  A colleague and I are
planning to submit a manuscript soon.  Those which have already
appeared, including the one in the January issue of ONLINE, have
been very helpful.

Don Lanier, Site Librarian             U17113@UICVM (BITNET)
University of Illinois at Chicago      U17113@UICVM.UIC.EDU (INTERNET)
College of Medicine at Rockford
1601 Parkview Ave.                     (815) 395-5658 (VOICE)
Rockford, IL  61107                    (815) 395-5655 (FAX)
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From:         KINGH%SNYSYRV1.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu
Subject:      RE: Telephone books -- charges for libraries
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We do pay for out-of-region telephone books here in NYNEX -ville.
Hannah King
SUNY HSC Library at Syracuse
kingh@snysyrv1
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:56:56 EDT
From:         Donna Gagnier <LIBGAGNIER%minna.acc.iit.edu@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Re: Fritz Pollard
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>From: JIM HEWITT <hewitt%vax.cord.edu@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
>Subject: Fritz Pollard
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>One of our students is in need of some information on the coaching career
>of Fritz Pollard, the first black All-American at a major US university
>(Brown) and a star in the early National Football League.  Our information
>is that he coached a professional team in Hammond, IN around 1923-1925.
>Does anybody out there have any particulars about his career?  Was he, in
>fact, the first black professional football coach?
>Most of the information we have been able to find in standard sources
>deal with his playing career at Brown and the NFL, and also mention
>that he was involved in the motion picture industry during World War II.
>Any other information would be appreciated.
>
>Please respond to my personal Internet address.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Jim Hewitt
>reference librarian
>Concordia College
>Moorhead, MN 56562
>hewitt@vax.cord.edu
         Try a 1992 book: Fritz Pollard:pioneer in racial advancement
by John M. Carroll  Urbana:University of Illinois Press.
isbn 0252018141.
     Found by using "Fritz Pollard" with keyworded title command
on Illinet.  accessible by internet.
   Donna Gagnier  Ref/BI
Illinois Institute of Technology
libgagnier@minna.iit.edu
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:29:15 EDT
From:         rRick Uttich <RUIME%CUNYVM.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Re: WANTED: CINAHL info
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Doug,
   CINAHL is indeed the Cumulative Index to Nursing & Allied Health Literature
It can or should be found in its printed form in any library that services a pr
ogram in the health sciences.  It is also available in CDROM format and is
available commercially online as file #218 on DIALOG.  It is produced by
CINAHL Information Systems, Glendale CA.


Rick Uttich
Medgar Evers College Library / CUNY
1650 Bedford Ave.
Brooklyn, NY 11225
718-270-4877
RUIME@CUNYVM.BITNET
RUIME@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:47:43 EDT
From:         "J. KEITH OSTERTAG" <OSTERTAGK@SNYCORVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Collections strong in China studies?

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

We would appreciate help in identifying telnet-accessible libraries which have
strong collections in China studies- language, literature, history, etc.

If you would email me directly, I will summarize for the list.

Thanks,

Keith Ostertag, Access Services Librarian
Memorial Library, SUNY- Cortland
OSTERTAGK@SNYCORVA.BITNET   or   OSTERTAGK@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU
607-753-2528
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:33:10 EDT
From:         larry schwartz <LSCHWART@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Subject:      Re: COMPUTERIZED REFERENCE SERVICES LIBRARIAN
              27 Jan 1993 20:00:42 EDT from <jhunt@dhvx20.csudh.edu>

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On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:00:42 EDT <jhunt@dhvx20.csudh.edu> said:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I would be most grateful to anyone willing to share with me a position
>announcement or job description for a "Computerized Reference
>Services Librarian."  We soon hope to embark upon a recruiting
>campaign for such an animal, and there is some disagreement here
>about what the job should entail.
>send responses to me at:  jhunt@dhvx20.csudh.edu.
>
>                                Jim Hunt
>                                Director of Reference Services
>                                California State University
>                                Dominguez Hills
well, we tried using a computerized reference services librarian here at ndsu,
but some major logic circuits fried when it was asked, for the twentieth
time, "where's the Infotrac?"  i guess it figured the signage was self-
evident.  i would seriously suggest using humans with artificial intelligence
until the next iteration comes around.

larry schwartz, humanities librarian
  and source of artificial intelligence
north dakota state u
fargo, nd
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From:         Johanna Tunon <tunon@novavax.nova.edu>
Subject:      Re: Addr: Downloading Searches from Dialog/BRS/Epic
              "JHELMS%VUNET.VINU.EDU@Kentvm.Kent.edu" at Jan 27, 93 7:48 pm

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>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I'm hopeful that someone out there in reference/library land will
> provide an answer as how to download search results from Dialog,
> BRS, or EPIC as a file through the INTERNET.I access the INTERNET
> through an IBM mainframe running VM/CMS.  Recently, I began using
> the INTERNET to search the online vendors named above.  Since I
> haven't figured this process out, I've been printing via print screen.
> Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>

If you are using Procomm, there is a capture feature that allows
you to download what passes across the screen into a file.  Alt
F1 opens and closes this file.  Of course, all the garbage that
appears at the bottom of every screen is also captured, but that
is easy to clean up.
--
Johanna Tunon
tunon@novavax.nova.edu
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:30:25 EDT
From:         JULIUS ARIAIL <SOLIBJA%GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      VP debate transcript
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A transcript of the VP debate is available on Lexis/Nexis.

Julius Ariail, Director of Libraries
Georgia Southern University
solibja@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:55:23 EDT
From:         Charles Curran <N400019@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bibliotherapy.
              26 Jan 1993 18:09:07 EDT from <DKOVACS@Kentvm.Kent.edu>

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To the people interested in bibliotherapy:

     For two years I was president of the South Carolina Bibliotherapy
Association.  That group is now inactive, but when it did function, we ob-
served some nice work being done, especially with aging populations.  I can
also report that lots of bibliotherapy, therapeutic and developmental, is
practiced by the unlicensed.  Last I knew, St. Elizabeth's Hospital, a public
hospital in the D.C. area, was the east coast's only site for official
training and the program required a two year commitment.  I have no formal
training except for a few workshops conducted by licensed BT'pists, yet I
have done some training myself.  I guess that's scary.  R. Rubin is a writer
whose works interested parties should consult.  There has been, and may still
be an ALA BT Discussion Group.  I once belonged.   Good luck in your study.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:38:06 EDT
From:         Toni Katz <tdkatz%COLBY.EDU@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Reference Use of the Internet
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So many Internet advocates are contributing to this timely discussion
that I hope I may express some doubts without getting clobbered.  Certainly
I would like to join you enthusiasts and probably will eventually if the
Internet is such an effective Reference tool.  My question is simply How
do you achieve efficiency?

At Colby we have a very active Online Reference Service, using DIALOG, OCLC,
EPIC, LEXIS/NEXIS frequently for reference questions in addition to tradition-
al bibliographic searching (I would have consulted CNN Transcripts or US
Newswire on Nexis for Clinton's Inaugural Address if someone had requested
it on the same day it was delivered).  As you all know, for all of these sy
systems there is vendor training, customer support, documentation, etc.

How do I know what I'm searching when I decide (based on what?) to use the
Internet to answer a Reference request?  Our January 1993 issue of Online
hasn't arrived yet, so maybe I'll find some answers there.  I know that
a Coalition for Networked Information has been formed by ARL to address
such questions, so they must have some substance.

I just think it's way too early in the Internet for Reference game to be
So Superior that those of us who aren't yet fluent on the Internet are
Unwilling To Learn New Skills or Serve Patrons.  I'd rather read constructive
notes on what articles to read and how it's being used than what you think
about those who Aren't searching the Internet.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:01:30 EDT
From:         Theresa Johnson <TJOHNSON%UWF.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Bush address

----------------------------Original message----------------------------


Does anyone have a current address for President Bush?  A patron is
specifically interested in the business address.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Theresa Johnson
University of West Florida
Pensacola, FL  32514
(904) 474-2168
e-mail tjohnson@uwf.BITNET
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:36:08 EDT
From:         MSTEVE@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      Avery Index

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I am searching for the Avery Index to Architectural Periodicals before
1979.  We at the Gunnin Architectural Library here at Clemson University
are about to purchase the index in microform, but would like to find it
in paper.  Publication of the index began in 1934.  Does anyone know
where these might be found?  We do not need to purchase the entire set.
Any volumes would be helpful.  Please reply directly to me at Steve
Moon@Clemson.edu.  Thanks for your help!
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:54:53 EDT
From:         Lynda Williams <williams@cnc.bc.ca>
Subject:      internet reference

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In answer to Deborah S. Johnson -- yes, I think even we pesky
computer types must admitt the obstacles to getting others involved
are not imaginary.  People are busy and the connections can be
flakey.  I am teaching a Computer Info Systems seminar course right
now, in addition to my librarian role in ILL, and gave my 13 students
a VAX account and license to do research on Internet via conferences.
I also gave them Diane K's list of conferences.  One has taken advantage
of it so far.  Learning to use the e-mail is an obstacle, and people
are unsure of what they'll find when they try.

My answer to that is more librarians ought to be blazing trails and
doing the leg work.

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*  Lynda J. Williams,  College of New Caledonia *
*  Prince George, B.C.  (604) 562-2131 loc.296  *
*  Internet:  lynda@cnc.bc.ca                   *
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