From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Re: Catholic Druidism in Watsonville
Organization: California State University: Sacramento
Distribution: world  
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:35:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.192636.26343@coopsol.com> gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
>
>It appears that once again many Catholics are confused as to what to
>worship.  In Watsonville the other day a woman claimed to see the "Virgin
>Mary" in the knothole of an old oak tree.  This was great cause for a
>migration of Catholics to scamper to the area and begin worshipping the
>tree. I say "worshipping the tree" because they have had to put a fence up
>around the tree to keep the people from stripping the bark from it in an
>effort to take some blessing with them.  Some people were shown on the
>news last night dipping their fingers into the tar used to cover the
>stripped areas, and spreading it on their faces and their children's
>faces.  Makes sense to me -- yeah right.
>
>Of course, there are many claims of the VM talking to the people there and
>the usual miracles that accompany this type of hysteria.  The cameras
>showed the knothole and it only vaguely resembles one particular
>picture of the VM (which the woman produced) in cameo (or outline)
>only.  Someone also displayed a photo which supposedly depicts the VM
>standing near the tree, but in reality it hardly resembles any human
>form at all.
>
>I wonder how much the woman is charging to enter her property?  Will
>Suzanne and Chaney be making a pilgrimage now?

More religious bigotry, it seems. (Noted for future reference, as one
might say...) 

Gordon Storga, read this and read it well: 

Not one iota of any religion can make its influence felt on my
political views. I contradict the Church on so many fundamental stands
that even if I did conveniently forget the First Amendment, I couldn't
be allowed by those folks, to speak for them. 

But of course, you know already by past posts and my advice to
religiously motivated pro-lifers on USENET, that the Catholic Church
is irrelevant to my pro-life stand. If they'd have tried to force me
to make a choice between my church and my politics, I probably
wouldn't have been pro-life now. Certain (not all) Catholics
continually find me a stumbling block WRT contraception and a whole
host of other issues. They're happier to see my politics and religion
NOT mixing because when I act, I don't wait for the Pope to say it's
okay and if he says it ain't, I act anyway.  

I'm probably more non-sectarian than you and any _ATHEIST_ friends you
have, Gordon, when it comes to politics. But of course, Storga, I have
already proven that time and again. 


Don't start it with me, Storga. You're only showing how vastly stupid,
ignorant and unintellegent you are, that you'll pick on me with
something that's weak and factually incorrect. In fact, pick on me
with this issue and you might end up feeling like you'd lost fingers
to pick with. 

You will lose this debate if you press it. 

>Gordon
>-- 
>The opinions expressed are my own, and not the beliefs or opinions
>of whatever company you think I work for.  So there, thhhbbbt!
>Message to Kodak:  Freedom for Dan Bredy.


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The typical pro-choicer: 

1) Opposes war because it is killing. 
2) Seeks a ban or massive waiting periods on guns because they may kill. 
3) Favors spotted owls over the welfare of working-class human beings. 
4) Opposes the death penalty because it is killing. 

5) Wants to save the dolphins. 
6) And the whales. 
7) And the eagles' eggs. 
8) All because it is killing. 
9) But then tries to justify abortion even though it is killing. 
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