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From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Do the Aliens come from EARTH?
Date: 20 Aug 1992 21:26:28 GMT
Organization: sio
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>In article <rabjab.12.0@golem.ucsd.edu> rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof) writes:

>>The Company, patiently allowed the Alien infection [of the Elephant 
>>civilization] to follow its course...

>Can't be.  If the Company genetically engineered the Aliens, they would have 
>no need to smuggle one back to earth for testing/study.  They should not have 
>destroyed all "copies" of the Aliens and blueprints after setting them loose.

One idea is that the Alien can be spread in the form of a virus
that would commandeer a host's reproductive system.  If it can do
that, then it might also be able to evolve quickly to an optimum
configuration for the given infected species.  The design of the
Alien released from the Company lab might NOT be the  same after
hosting on the Elephant species (i.e. the race of beings that built
the "Flying-U") and humans and dogs.  I think the point of host-
specific mutability was brought out in Alien^3.  Thus, the Company
would be VERY interested in taking a look at the Alien and the direction
of its evolution - and ran into a little more trouble than it bargained
for by underestimating the viciousness of the 50th(?) generation model.

I haven't seen the movie Alien^3 yet, but read the book.  My wife
says the movie is at a local theater for $1.50/ticket.  But please,
tell me, is there any indication in the movie how Ripley was im-
pregnated by the beast?  The book didn't seem clear on this point,
and I THOUGHT I read every page.

Jeff Bytof
rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu  

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From: yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Yossi Gil)
Subject: Mia vs. Woody. What was the name of the black cat?
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:04:50 GMT

Everyone is talking these days about this affair.  Catching up late I
wonder: what was the thing that started the whole process? What was
the name of the black cat that went between them? Was it Sun-Yi?
Or did Mia and Woody separate prior to the affair of Woody with Sun-Yi?

Mia and Woody seemed to have THE perfect relationship... 
How come they broke off and in such bad terms?


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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:53:17 GMT

In article <1253@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
>>Given that Mia married Ole Blue Eyes in her early twenties I don't
>>really think she's got a moral leg to stand on.
>
>Huh?  Just what was supposed to be "immoral" about her marrying Frank
>Sinatra?  Because he was older, or what?  It might have been weird
>but I don't see what's immoral about it.

Well, she is making a fuss about (among other things) Allen carrying on
with a woman young enough to be his daughter.  That indignation would
seem more authentic had she not carried on with a man old enough to be
her father.  I wouldn't call it a case of immorality, myself, at least
not that aspect of the situation.  She does have the moral high ground,
for what it's worth, in that Sinatra was not the lover of her mother.
(At least, I think he wasn't - Sinatra got around, and Farrow's mother
was a relatively well known and pretty actress who was in Hollywood at 
the same time as Sinatra.)  One can argue about the height of that moral 
high ground, but it does seem insulting, if nothing else, to lose your 
longtime lover to your adopted daughter.  

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: RE: Dracula
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:04:36 GMT
Organization: Clark University

In a previous article, ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) wrote:
>What's the poop on the new Dracula film?
> 
>I heard that it's directed by Francis Ford Coppolla, stars Winona Ryder
>as Mina, Anthony Hopkins as Van Helsing, and whatsisname as Drac.  
> 
>Any new news?  When'll it be out?  WILL it be out?  What company is
>releasing it?  Info, info, info!
> 
From what I've heard, it will be out November 13th...Friday the 13th.  A lot 
of people are getting pretty excited about Dracula (including myself).  I'm 
attending MagiCon, the World Sci-Fi convention, in Orlando in a few weeks.  
Coppolla is one of the guest speakers.  When I get back I'll post any exciting 
info!

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From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Subject: Re: Manon of the Spring (was something really stupid)
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:13:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.000247.30593@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>In <1992Aug18.191548.29394@sco.COM> maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes) writes:
>>Typically, North American audiences are drawn to slick, big budget films
>>with slick, expensive actors.  
>
>C'mon, be fair, this sentence should be "Typically, audiences all over the 
>world are drawn to slick, big budget films, with slick, expensive actors."
>Except for France (where he is second of third) Arnold S. is the biggest
>draw in every major film market in the world. 
>
>Which film made more money in Australia, "The Year My Voice Broke" or 
>"Terminator 2"?
>

Let me amend that to read:
Typically, North American audiences are drawn to slick, big budget films
with slick, expensive actors.  Few films without these qualities draw much 
attention.
In other parts of the Western world, audiences are drawn to slick, big 
budget films with slick, expensive actors.  HOWEVER, outside of North 
America, audiences will also accept the "smaller" films more readily than
will North American audiences.  
And, like any generalization, there are exceptions.  I'm just speaking in
terms of "the big picture" (horrific pun intended).
I haven't a clue how much T2 grossed in Australia.  But "The Year My Voice
Broke" grossed more in Australia than it ever will in the U.S. (American
version excluded).
Compare the differences between "Ghost" and "Truly, Madly, Deeply".
One was made with American audiences in mind, one with U.K. audiences
in mind.  Guess which one had Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze undulating
around a trendy, over-art-directed loft in designer sheets?
From: rcheung@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Richard Cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: THEY LIVE and/or ALIEN3
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:38:01 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

In article <1992Aug17.122923.21554@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk writes:
>My next question goes out to anyone who has seen ALIEN3. It is released
>this friday, 21st August, here in the UK. Being a big ALIEN/ALIENS fan
>I'll be seeing it on its opening night.
>Will I be disappointed ???
>marks out of 10 ???
>

Well the movie itself was ok I guess... it was no where as suspenseful
as ALIENS I felt... It was more gruesome and more tragic in a way...
If you were a real fan of ALIEN/ALIENS then you may be disappointed...
Go see it anyway! When I went and saw it (during a vacation in Sydney)
we had a bomb threat in the middle of the movie which really brighten
things up!!
I give it 5 and a half out of 10.

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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:11:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ohio University Schoo of Art. Athens

In article <1992Aug5.165618.17638@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> wkm1@nestor.uucp (24102-messer) writes:
>
>The best audience comment I ever heard came from my friend.
>We were watching the Star Trek movie "Search for Spock"...

A friend of mine if from Beirut. He loves to go to the mall and watch
movies. We went to Star Trek 3 and halfway through the credits he said
"Bob, what is, 'Spock'". I knew then that it was going to be a long 
movie.



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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: why i watch movies
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:28:37 GMT
Organization: Exile Government of Bramming

eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:

>          On the other hand, I was not impressed with David Lynch's
>     "Wild At Heart."  It went out of its way to present weird
>     images and to try to be different, but it had the same faults
>     that I found in "Blue Velvet:" the characters may have been
>     well-developed, but they were unsympathetic and they failed to
>     capture my sympathies.

I see this a lot: someone not liking a movie simply because the 
characters are not people you would want to have living next door.
Why is that so important? I don't go the theater to see nice people
do nice things to other nice people. 
-- 
No News is Bad News
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From: charlesk@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Hak Kim)
Subject: Re: *GREAT MOVIE ACTORS*
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:02:33 GMT

cassi@FRD.AC.ZA (Cassi Goodman) writes:

>One of my favourites -->  James Woods

>I think he is incredibly sexy.

Not to mention incredibly talented.  Woods is perhaps the smartest and
definitely one of the most underated actors of the Twentieth century.

Regards,

Charles H. Kim

charlesk@sfu.ca
From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Colorization sucks
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:51:12 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Colorization does truely suck. I watched the first few seconds
of Casablanca in its colorized version before making a desperate
lunge for the tuner knob and turning it back to black and white.
The colorization really made everything look stupid. Instead of
making the crowded streets of Casablanca seem exotic and mysterious,
all the gaudy cartoon colors made it look like some kind of night
of the living shriners convention in which all the participants
had spent the previous week collecting all the super-sale items
from their local clothing stores to wear about the town.

--danny
-- 
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	as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
	compositions devoid of external references and
	meanings?" ***********************************
From: srs@oasis.icl.co.uk (Steve Strong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:09:12 GMT
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 4SN, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

The Zapper.

Steve
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:40:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.205145.26099@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>, jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes...

} There was one about the French and Indian wars with Spencer (sp?) Tracy
} as Rogers. I think the title was "Northwest Passage", but it might have
} been "Roger's Rangers".

Actually, it was both (kind of). NOTHWEST PASSAGE was the title, with
"Roger's Rangers" being the subtitle. There were plans for a second film,
but they never came to pass.

In article <65816@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt7257c@prism.gatech.EDU (Jose R. Perez) writes...

} If you liked that one, then really try to catch 'Failsafe' on cable. It is
} much superior, and there are way too many paralells between the stories;
} i.e. I suspect BDEL 'borrowed' from this classic.

Only fitting, since the original novel of FAIL SAFE (by Burdick & Wheeler)
"borrowed" from Peter Bryant's RED ALERT (the very serious source novel
for the very comedic DR. STRANGELOVE). In fact, it "borrowed" sufficiently
to land Burdick & Wheeler in court for plagiarism.

} Once you've seen Failsafe, you won't like the other too much.

A bit too extreme a judgment, I think. Whether FAIL SAFE is superior to
BY DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT (which I haven't seen) shouldn't preclude anyone
from continuing to enjoy the latter.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Tasneem Ziauddin)
Subject: Re: Movies starring Claude Rains Wanted.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:23:48 GMT

yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:


>One of my favorite actor is Claude Rains and I'd like to see if there is
>any movies that he was in that I missed.
> 
>I've seen him in 
>  "Caesar and Cleopatra"
>  "Casablanca"
>  "Robin Hood" 
>  "The Phantom of the Opera"
>  "The Invisible Man"

> Did I miss any?

> Ralph Yozzo

He's also one of my favorite actors.  One film you did not list is
"Notorious," a Hitchcock film starring Rains, Ingrid Bergman, and Cary
Grant.
From: johna@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (John Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dr.Strangelove
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:40:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

It was Merkwurdigliebe (roughly..my German's very rusty) which translated
means Strangelove.
From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:27:04 GMT
Distribution: world, rec, usa, na
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.


Well, we always called it "the remote" (as in "where's the **@#?*!
remote?"), but Seinfeld changed all that.  Now we call it "the 
clicker", in homage to that classic scene in which Seinfeld, George
and Elaine fight over the remote to change stations:
"Give me the clicker!"
"No way, you're a lousy clicker!"
"I'M a lousy clicker?"
"You're a LOUSY clicker!"
"Don't call me a lousy clicker!"


(oooops, this ISN'T rec.arts.seinfeld?)
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: But what about???
Date: 16 Aug 92 05:13:25 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

In article <20584@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
> (stuff I wrote deleted)
> 
>> Well, I'm not sure about hunks ;-{), how about some actors I
>> like?
>> 
>> > Older
>> > ****
>> > 
>> > Charlton Heston
>> > Cary Grant
>> > Marlon Brando
>> >
>> 
>> John Wayne
>> Gary Cooper
>> Jimmy Stewart  
>> Rhet Butler (the name eludes me right now)  Clark Gable
>> Glen Ford
>> Henry Fonda
>> Claude Raines
>> Humphrey Bogart
> 
> James Mason, George C. Scott, Laurence Olivier, young Orson Welles
> 
>> 
>> A little less old:
>> 
>> Clint Eastwood
>> Gene Hackman
>> Morgan Freeman
>> Richard Harris  King Arthur always!
>> 
>> ;-{)
>> 
>> Sean Connery
>> Danny Glover
> 
> William Smith from "Streets of Laredo"
> James Earl Jones
> John Amos
> 
>> 
>>  
>> > Younger
>> > ******
>> > 
>> > well, know me.... Dolph Lundgren, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Patrick Swayze
>> > 
>> > but, seriously
>> > 
>> > Harrison Ford
>> > Sean Connery
>> > Mel Gibson
>> >
>> 
>> Pierce Brosnan (whatever happened to him)
>> Michael J. Fox
>> The guy who looks like Swayze and I can't remember his name right
>> now ;-{).
>> Bruce Willis (kinda ugly though)
>> The 2 brothers one of whom played Jack Ryan in "Hunt for Red
>> October" 
> 
> Alec and William Baldwin?
> 
> Armand Assante
> Marc Singer (Beastmaster)
> Miles O'Keefe (Bo Derek's Tarzan, wasn't he also in the Drifter?)
> Franco Nero (From Camelot, and some B movies)
> 
> ***********************************
> 
> Jim Heath
> 
> Sorry, I'm bored.  I just had to add more!
> 
> margaret again
> 
===============
I'm leaving this entire post here because I can't believe everyone left 
off my all time favorite Actor.  My sister always said he was the 
most gorgeous man alive... and what an actor... 

	Elmer Gantry
	Birdman of Alcatraz
	Atlantic City
	Field of Dreams

Ah what a voice...

Burt Lancaster of course?  Was this an oversight or has Burt really
fallen that far...

rlwilliams@gallua

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From: jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:51:45 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University


How about war movies about earlier times?

I liked "Fall of the Roman Empire".  There was one about the
French and Indian wars with Spencer (sp?) Tracy as Rogers.  I
think the title was "Northwest Passage", but it might have been
"Roger's Rangers".

This remake of "The Last of the Mohicans" looks like it might be
good, but I think I saw one with Gary Cooper when I was a kid and
it was quite good.
-- 
"Land of song, said the warrior bard,           Jim Heath
Though all the world betrays thee.
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, (The Minstrel Boy)
One faithful harp will praise thee."         (Thomas Moore)
From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:25:27 -0700
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <8059@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:

The Orgasmatron

Thus he injects some movie content.

"Groove with your space commander, Dad!"  -- More movie content!
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From: mmaxwell@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Firght Night (was re: Dracula)
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:47:09 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws80.ucsd.edu

In article <2713@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
writes:
(snip)
>   Now this is much more evidence that it will be faithful. Few films
>remember that vampires can transform into wolves as well as bats (I hope
>you were just exagerating when you said "werewolf", which of course
>would be veering away from the novel). I was really pleased when one of
>the vampires became a wolf in "Fright Night" for the same reason -
>excellent little film that!

I agree.  A friend and i saw it in the theatre as part of
a double bill (with "Return of the Living Dead") and
was pleasantly surprised at how well done it was, given the truly
stupid title of "Fright Night."  The sequel, however has little
to recommend it.

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Matt Maxwell
mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

"He took personality tests
 and stapled them to his lower lip" -- Stan Ridgway
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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Re: colorization killer (was Ted Turner et al)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 04:08:18 GMT

In article <115034@muvms3.bitnet> rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM) writes:
>You can kill off the odious effects of colorization, either on
>TV or cassette, by simply turning down the color tuning knob on your
>set.

I would guess that this works only superficially. Sure, the color is gone,
but the colorization process tends to muck up a lot more of a picture than
just the color; e.g. brightness, contrast, and sharpness. This is 
especially true of the early colorization attempts, which were, in short,
lousy. Unfortunately, no amount of twiddling of the TV's dials can bring
back the original image. 

I don't know why distributors think that more people will watch movies that 
look like kids' coloring books than will watch black and white films.

-- 
Matt Garretson                       :-)                          garrem@rpi.edu
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Kim Basinger
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:43:55 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris Koenigsberg) writes:


>So what's next for her after Cool World?

Dinner theater?

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