From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Vote results: Phil Stromer vs RSPW
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:45:10 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Dear fellow R.S.P-W'ers,

The votes have been counted and below is a copy of the letter that I just
sent off to the Postmaster at Infoserv.Com. I'll include some comments after
the letter.

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Postmaster,

About a month or so ago, you posted a message to the Usenet Newsgroup
Rec.Sport.Pro-Wrestling over the problems that have been encountered with
Phil Stromer (peewee@infoserv.com). In that message you requested that the
active membership of that group conduct a vote on the issue of whether or
not to allow Phil to post to said newsgroup again.

I took it upon myself to conduct the vote through E-mail and am writing
to pass along the final results of the vote. I conducted a fair vote,
wording public requests for votes in such a way as to remain unbiased, even
though I have strong feelings on the matter myself. I double-checked all
mail addresses to ensure that the same person never voted twice and even
discovered two votes from people with the same real name (which I verified
to be two seperate people in a followup).

Please instruct Phil that he is no longer welcome to post any messages to
rec.sport.pro-wrestling. 82 people voted. 69 people voted against allowing
Phil to post and 13 people thought he should be allowed to post. Several
people voiced the opinion that he should be allowed to post if he pledged to
post relevant information to the newsgroup with no homophobic, profane, or
vulgar content. Unfortunately for Phil, this is his second expulsion from
the net and very few believed that he would actually change a third time
around, if given the opportunity.

This is an unfortunate situation, but Phil's off-topic posts simply generate
too many flame wars. These create massive numbers of posts that are
irrelevant to the discussion of professional wrestling and ultimately cost
every system that imports this newsgroup.

I would appreciate a short reply in acknowledgement of receiving this
message. Thank-you for your involvement in this situation on behalf of
rec.sport.pro-wrestling!

Sincerely,

(my sig)

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Thank you to everyone who voted. Thank you also to everyone who expressed
opinions on the matter above and beyond the simple "Yes" or "No". A summary
(from memory) follows:

Yes:
	- I have a kill file so I don't care if he posts.
	- I'm pro free speech / against censorship.
	- Someone has to vote for the guy, so why not me?
	- This is an unmoderated group.

No:
	- Simply can't stand reading what he writes (most popular).
	- I'd vote yes if he'd change, but I don't think he will.
	- Since Usenet is not the same as a streetcorner (i.e. it costs money),
       censorship is not an issue. System administrators have the right to
       restrict whomever they want.

and there were probably more that have slipped my mind (my apologies).

I felt it was only fair to post this message to the net, but at the same
time, I realize it's flame bait to everyone who isn't happy with the
outcome, the arguments, the principal of the matter in the first place. In
an effort to prevent a thread starting here...

PLEASE DON"T POST FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT PHIL STROMER TO THIS NEWSGROUP!

I know I speak for a lot of people in saying that RSPW's had enough on the
Stromer issue. He won't be posting any more. The end. It's too late. Don't
bring up the subject in this newsgroup. If people still want to discuss it,
find a suitable newsgroup in which to do so, or keep it in E-mail.
Rec.Sport.Pro-wrestling is NOT an appropriate newsgroup. Phil Stromer and
pro-wrestling have nothing in common.

THANK YOU!

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