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From: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Bands People HATE!!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:01:14 GMT
Reply-To: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

After reading all these posts about bands that are disliked (especially stuff
like REM), its seems that nobody actually took Sacred Reich's advice in the
song 31 Flavours.

Diversity is the whole point of musical -taste-

Go figure...

T

'you ran out of lies'
From: st1p8@elroy.uh.edu (Wong, Chat L.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Deicide, Demolition Hammer, Cancer
Keywords: ??
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:22:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 Has anyone seen their show yet??  

"Hey Riz- did you get your message????"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:01:21 GMT

In article <90573@netnews.upenn.edu> The Painkiller writes:
>Fear of the Dark  is a pretty good album, but I would rate Powerslave and
>and Number of the Beast slightly higher.
>Among the songs I really like in the new album are Childhoods End and the title track. 

I'd say "Afraid To Shoot Strangers" and "From Here To Eternity" are my favorite
songs, but I'd also give FEAR a 9/10 rating. POWERSLAVE and BEAST I'd rate 
8/10.

>FOTD gets, according to me, an 8 on 10.

>Incidentally ( FLAME AWAY ) Dave Mustaine's voice SUCKS ..... and I say this 
>even though I have tix for Megadeth in Philly. Mustaine should be a pop singer.
By himself, yeah, Mustaine's a lousy singer. He does fit Megadeth's sound
though. I don't like the way they did the new album (from what I hear of
their "Symphony Of Destruction" symphony). Here his voice stands out too
obviously, whereas before it was neatly blended into the guitars. He's 
obviously a better guitarist than he is a singer, and I often listened to
Megadeth to hear the instrumentals, not his voice.

philip
PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
From: C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu (Michael Teller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Metallica production
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:52:59 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD

>
>In article <BvGH7A.C6@nic.umass.edu>, cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck
>Hazlett) says:
>
>In article <BOS.92Oct1161437@psykoman.hut.fi> bos@niksula.hut.fi (Bengt Olof
>Sahlin) writes:
>>
>>
>>       I have these five CDs of Metallica:
>>
>>       1. Kill'em all
>>       2. Ride the lightning
>>       3. Master of Puppets
>>       4. And justice for all
>>       5. the newest one (don't remember it's name in this hangover :)
>>
>>       Has Metallica made any other records, and if they have, what
>>       is/are their names?
>>--
>>       ---
>>       bos
>>
>>          ...... who said that my party is all over .....
>
>Offhand, I can think of the "Creeping Death" lp and the $9.98 CD
>"Garage Days Re-Revisited", although I haven't seen either of them
>in a record store for quite some time.
>
>-Chuck
I'm not really sure why anyone would want to get the Creeping Death EP as
long as the had the Elektra release of Kill 'Em All. If you have the older
K 'E A without Am I Evil? and Blitzkrieg then it's worth it. $9.98 is worth
getting. The only other single I can think that is worth the money is either
the European import of One or the Harvester of Sorrow EP for the songs
Breadfan and The Prince which are two of Metallica's more thrashy covers.
                                                      -Teller
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: ajo9763@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Reply-To: ajo9763@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:41:21 GMT

Personally, I don't know what to say about the new Iron Maiden album.
I think that it's got some really excellent songs, Be Quick Or Be Dead,
Afraid To Shoot Strangers, Childhood's End, Judas Be My Guide, and the 
title track, Fear Of The Dark is an incredible song.  
     With a band like Maiden, people seem to be in three categories..
1) They don't like Maiden at all, they like Metallica and Winger   
2) They love Maiden's old stuff and don't even want to touch the new 
albums.  #
3) They are like me, I love Iron Maiden, to me they have the sound and 
the songs over anyone..they make their mistakes (Mother Russia, Invaders)
but overall they are just the best...

Oh, by the way, my 5 most dreaded bands...

1) New Metallica and the New fans
2) Slaughter
3) Bodycount
4) Poison (even if they did break up, I still hate 'em)
5) Pearl Jam (evenflow's cool but that's about it, trendies)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: New Anthrax Album????
From: akazamer@husc8.harvard.edu (Annette Kazamerski)
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:22:23 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Sep29.200803.1@vax.sonoma.edu> ryanm@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>

[stuff deleted]

>
>Also I am always on the search for Anthrax Bootlegs.  If anyone has some to
>sell on Cd or can find some for me it would be seriously considered. 
>
>Thanks 
>Mike Ryan
>ryanm@vax.sonoma.edu

Me too.  Anyone with info on the band or bootlegs, feel free to drop me a line.
I've been a fan for a while, but I've recently become more devoted since 
I met Frank Bello over the summer.  He was at a movie theater where I had a
summer job and was really nice about stopping to talk.  It's nice to know that
some bands still care about their fans.

Thanks.  Bye...

Annette

-- 
akazamer@husc.harvard.edu
"Rock n' roll has always been the devil's music."
				--David Bowie
From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Venom lyrics, Part I
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 02:58:40 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:

> Well, that's it for now!!  Next time, Satanachist and Burn This Place.
> 
> Lay down your soul to the God - Rock & Roll!!
> 						Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
> 

bravo al! thanks for the lyrics. looking forward to the next set. i have 
them in my c:\text\venom directory. :)

-g

HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS - Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 HST
genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   27-Sep-92 at 2:59a
From: cmrtcv@rosie.uh.edu (92F09797)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: R.I.P. Clifford Lee Burton
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:09:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston


Six years ago today, the world lost a great man.  I'll never forget him.
He still lives in my heart.  Long live Cliff Burton.
                                 Carlos  
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie (Eru)
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Clifford Lee Burton
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:40:21 GMT

In <1a7i3rINNikb@agate.berkeley.edu> alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko) writes:

>In article <1992Sep27.210915.15209@menudo.uh.edu> cmrtcv@rosie.uh.edu (92F09797) writes:
>Heard this weird story, connected with Motorhead's "Ace of Spades." The legend 
>has it that when Burton and the rest of Metallica were on that bus tour, they
>were playing cards all the time. I don't remember the name of the game they wereplaying but it was some trump game. Well, in one of his last hands, Burton pu-  lled out the ace of spades and couple seconds (minutes) later the bus crashed and the only person to die was Cliff.   f  pulle 

	Er, hate to spoil the party, but wasn't he on a different bus
than the rest of the band, having a nap, when it crashed?

>		 Long live Cliff.

Right on, Anesthesia *still* makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

	Gavin.
--
"What is a finite automaton?"         / Gavin Doherty
"Deterministic or nondeterministic?" / Computer Science
"I don't know"                      / Trinity College Dublin 
"AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!"         / gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pck8t@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Paul Christopher Kirkitelos)
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Clifford Lee Burton
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:16:42 GMT

In article <gdoherty.717712821@unix1.tcd.ie> gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie (Eru) writes:
>In <1a7i3rINNikb@agate.berkeley.edu> alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep27.210915.15209@menudo.uh.edu> cmrtcv@rosie.uh.edu (92F09797) writes:
>>Heard this weird story, connected with Motorhead's "Ace of Spades." The legend 
>>has it that when Burton and the rest of Metallica were on that bus tour, they
>>were playing cards all the time. I don't remember the name of the game they wereplaying but it was some trump game. Well, in one of his last hands, Burton pu-  lled out the ace of spades and couple seconds (minutes) later the bus crashed and the only per
>son to die was Cliff.   f  pulle 
>
>	Er, hate to spoil the party, but wasn't he on a different bus
>than the rest of the band, having a nap, when it crashed?
>


I believe the story, according to what I heard on an MTV Rockumentary,
goes something like this:

They were all on the _same_ bus.  They were playing cards.  It just so
happened that Kirk had gotten the best bunk, so the other guys were a 
bit envious.  They played some kind of card game to decide who would 
take over which bunk.  Cliff won and got to have Kirk's bunk, and all
the guys went to their new places to sleep.  Soon thereafter the bus 
crashed and Cliff died instead of Kirk who would have been there 
were it not for the card game. 

If anyone sees any inaccuracies in this account, please correct them.
From: ns2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nathan Lee Segerlind)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Bands People HATE!!!
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:29:06 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


     YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

     I like the Police and the Cure and the Violent Femmes and movie
soundtracks.  I guess it sucks liking different kinds of music- it's
harder to keep up with albums.

Nate
Who Needs to Take Out Loans to Buy New Albums 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck Hazlett)
Subject: Re: I.Maiden & newbies
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:45:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.231338.22821@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>Euh, don't remember your name but this is for you ('cos first I wanted to e-mailyou but then I thought it would be better to post it) njhand@vax1.tcd.ie
>You say that Iron Maiden are good for t-shirts not for music. You don't know    what you're saying, boy. These guys are VERY good and newbies HAVE to listen to their music.
>
>Erik.
>
>
>-- 
>Erik Campo campoe@JSP.UMontreal.Ca -- "Between the velvet lies
>                                       There's a truth that's made of steel
>                                       The vision never dies
>                                       Life's a never ending wheel" R.J.Dio 1983

I agree.  Iron Maiden may not be linear thrash, but they are IMHO the 
_best_ contemporary musicians, with music ranging from the speed of
"Fear of the Dark" and "Back in the Village", to melodies such as "Infinite 
Dreams" and "Hallowed Be Thy Name", to such epics as "The Phantom of the 
Opera", "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son", "To Tame a Land", and, of course, 
"Rime of the Ancient Mariner".  Newbies should at least give Maiden a listen,
or even go so far as to buy every single album/single/mechandise product
marketed with I.M. tacked on it.

-Chuck
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: optikhog@cs1.bradley.edu (Jeffrey Laird)
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Clifford Lee Burton
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:17:12 GMT

In <gdoherty.717712821@unix1.tcd.ie> gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie (Eru) writes:

>	Er, hate to spoil the party, but wasn't he on a different bus
>than the rest of the band, having a nap, when it crashed?

Uh, no again.  You didn't spoil the party.  Cliff was in KRK's bunk towards
the rear of the bus.
--
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From: merenda@remus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Fave drummers
Summary: oops
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:34:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <13106@operator>, oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite) writes:
> >and before you all get out the flamethrowers, no, i DO NOT think that
> >all a drummer needs is SPEED to be good, just listen to any
> >of John Zorn's "Naked City", with Mick [Harris] PLAYIng, and you sill see what
> >i mean. he is a great drummer. he GROOVES!
> >-frank-
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> Mick Harris does not play drums on the Naked City album. Can't remember who 
> does though (I don't have the CD with me). 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> oliver@Software.Mitel.COM - "It hurt. I liked it." - Cactus Jack 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------


oops, you are right, he played with Zorn in Painkiller 

but not Naked City,my fault. i just got so carried

away.... thanks for pointing out my mis-information.....

ok, so i'm an idiot.... 

peace-

-frank-
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From: pmh@krk.fi (Pekka Honkonen)
Subject: Re: attention old (and new) metal@metal subscribers
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:08:59 GMT

gaby@LAB10.GATECH.EDU (turek) writes:
: For all those returnees wandering where metal@metal got to the new
: addresses are:
: post to:          metal@key.amdahl.com
: sub requests:     owner-metal@key.amdahl.com
: New subscribers welcome!
 
Please, tell me, what is that metal@metal what you are talking about !
Is it some kind of newsletter etc. ?? 


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Pmh, Pekka Honkonen
	           pmh@krksun.krk.fi
	  Metal rules! Metallica & AC/DC is only way to live!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

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From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: ALICE IN CHAINS ---> DIRT (new album)
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:04:26 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

 I really like DIRT.  Right now I rate the two albums equal.  My favorites off
 of the album are:  ROOSTER, DIRT, and ANGRY CHAIR.  I think Alice has gotten
 a bit heavier on DIRT, but I really like the results.  The new stuff does
 sound >great< live.
 
 -Scope
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I like DIRT (Sept. 29 release of Alice In Chains), also.  However, I can't rate
the two albums equal, because I like ALL the songs on FACELIFT, while some of
the songs on DIRT just don't seem worthy of their talent today (they sound like
songs that they should of made before Facelift and SAP).  However, the songs
that I DO LIKE are ... ROOSTER (great AIC song), DOWN IN A HOLE, RAIN WHEN I
DIE, DIRT, ANGRY CHAIR.  

TO: ANYONE WHO LIKES ALICE IN CHAINS
RE: BUY THIS ALBUM!!!

-tt..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Re: Jon Oliva
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:18:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.162139.26233@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.085824.27544@nntp.hut.fi> m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis) writes:
>>In article <Sep22.181246.66780@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton) writes:
>>>I can't believe that Jon Oliva has left Savatage...  What was the source
...
>>I read about this in Metal Hammer about a month ago. According to what
>>I have heard of their two latest albums I don't think Oliva's departure
>>of Savatage is such a great loss. Their first two or three albums are
>>excellent though.
...
>Having seen them live 5 times in the last 2 years, I can say that I think
>you are mistaken. Live, Jon WAS Savatage. His unique stage presence and
>mannerisms, not to mention amazing vocal control, will be sorely missed.

You've got a point there (though I never managed to see them live...
those old b***ards never visited Finland), Jon's singing is very distinctive,
unique and all that. But good vocals alone doesn't make good music, and
as far as I know Savatage had been lacking ability to write good new songs
recently before they broke up. 

>Also, you are always going to have problems when founding members leave.
>'Tage came out of Jon, Criss Oliva, and Steve Wacholz. 
>Jon seemed like a real nice guy when I talked to him <several times> and
>I know I will miss him, and that amazing Tenor...
>
>					--Judex--

Well, who knows if Savatage will make a grand comeback album ten years from
now on, like Black Sabbath and so many other bands recently...:-)


m38853v@saha.hut.fi 
Matti Varis
 -Nobody knows, and I know nobody cares what goes on in here
(Motorhead:City Kids)
From: darkman@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Most hated guitarists/lame musicians <was Fave drummers>
Date: 26 Sep 1992 05:49:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Hmph.  I'd rather listen to  anything Vai then anything Hendrix.  Both
annoy me greatly, but steve is Master.  Personally, Jason Becker is/was
the >best< guitarist in all fields.

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:47:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.222757.23436@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>Hi there!
>Ok. To all you fans of Iron Maiden over there here are some questions.
>1- What do you think about the new album "Fear Of The Dark"? I think it's much  much better then "No Prayer..." but the only good songs in it (except for "Be   Quick..." & "Wasting Love") are written by Harris who still writes in that good-old fashioned M
>aiden style. These guys have cahnged a lot.

Yes, but who doesn't. Everybody, everything on this planet changes. But in
this particular case of Iron Maiden, I think it wasn't for better direction.
You can call me a narrowminded old fart, (though it's not true (:-))) but
I think that FOTD sucks! I have only listened the album two or three times,
and there is only couple of not-so-unlistenable songs (cannot remember
any names). But I admit it's better than NPFTD. The only IM albums I still
like to listen every now and then are "Killers" and "Live After Death",
and I guess it says it all... 

>2- What about Gers? He's good yeah but he doesn't match so well in the band (I  mean his music style).

Yeah! He used to play in Gillan's band and is still suffering from a slight 
ritchie blackmore-syndrome. (Did you remark one song on FOTD (I cannot 
remember the title) that has guitar parts exactly like in some Deep Purple's
later material...)

---
m38853v@saha.hut.fi 
Matti Varis
 -Nobody knows, and I know nobody cares what goes on in here
(Motorhead:City Kids)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Sacred Reich
Reply-To: tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:12:18 GMT

	Does anyonr have any info on when a new Sacred Reich will be coming
out or if they are touring.  I really like their music and the latest album
I got is called  "A Question" and has 3 songs.

			Thanks,
			Todd
From: schandr@eos.ncsu.edu (Sumit)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:48:38 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Oct1.174121.29109@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ajo9763@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
|> Personally, I don't know what to say about the new Iron Maiden album.
|> I think that it's got some really excellent songs, Be Quick Or Be Dead,
|> Afraid To Shoot Strangers, Childhood's End, Judas Be My Guide, and the 
|> title track, Fear Of The Dark is an incredible song.  
|>      With a band like Maiden, people seem to be in three categories..
|> 1) They don't like Maiden at all, they like Metallica and Winger   
|> 2) They love Maiden's old stuff and don't even want to touch the new 
|> albums.  #
|> 3) They are like me, I love Iron Maiden, to me they have the sound and 
|> the songs over anyone..they make their mistakes (Mother Russia, Invaders)
|> but overall they are just the best...
|> 

I agree.
Though they have changed, they are still unique (even after 13 years).  
We often hear that other bands sound like Maiden (ex. Queensryche, Helloween
etc.)  but you never hear anyone say that Maiden sounds like any other band.
What I respect about them is that they've managed to be trend setters and
unique for a long time without compromise.  Not many bands can say that.

Sumit
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From: cac5961@usl.edu (Christian A Castor)
Subject: Motley Crue
Organization: University of SW Louisiana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:54:36 GMT


Anybody knows a good mail-order place to get Motley Crue T-shirts
and related stuff?  I'd be especially interested in a shirt      
featuring the inverted satanic star (aka pentagram). Also, I'm   
looking for a bandanna like the one used in the Theater Of Pain.

     -- C.


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