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From: nolen@gandalf2.Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Nolen [TI])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: (another) coaching move rumor
Date: 4 Sep 1992 23:08:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <1992Sep4.152727.468@ncsu.edu> delaw@eos.ncsu.edu (DOUGLAS EDWARD LAW) writes:
>
>   A columnist in the Raleigh N&O reported a rumor yesterday that Ken Hatfield
> might abandon the Clemson job for the head coaching post at Baylor. The article
> mentioned something about Hatfield being close friends with the
> coach-turned-permanent-AD 
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
(GRANT TEAFF, Dean of the SWC coaches, 2nd longest tenure at one school
 behind Joe Paterno)
> at Baylor. I personally think he'd be crazy to leave Clemson, but you
> never know.

This is completely new to me. I'll check with my father (a Baylor prof.) and
friends at Baylor to see if they had heard anything.

There might be something to this rumor though, as the Baylor athletic dept. has
built somewhat of a relationship with Clemson over the last few years.  Baylor's
offensive coordinator, Chuck Reedy, came from Clemson back in '89, I think (I believe he was the offensive coordinator under Danny Ford, perhaps Hatfield also??).  In addition, Baylor's new (within a year or so) assistant AD came from Clemson.

In coming to Baylor, the new asst. AD (I don`t know his name) commented on the
state of Baylor Football. He said that the talent level at Baylor was equivalent
with that at other major universities (he mentioned Clemson specifically) and
that the thing needed to step up to the next level is mainly attitude.  He said
that before a game at Baylor, the attitude is, "If we execute the game plan, if
we play to our potential, if we do what we can, we will win the game," whereas
at Clemson before the game, the attitude is, "We're going to kick their butts!"

In the SWC it seems that over the last several years, A&M has developed this
latter attitude and is stepping up to that elite level. I just with some new
vigor (and new coaching blood next year) my beloved Bears can do so too.

Well enough rambling, bring on LA Tech!

Mark Nolen
Baylor '88 --> Sic'em Bears!!
Duke '91   --> Go Blue Devils (and got to Hell Carolina)

ps I realize my Bears will probably be crushed by CU this year, but just in case
   they pull off a shocker like last year (how about that blocked field goal !?),
   I'll remember those fuffaloe woofers out there.

Disclamer: I don't work for Sun, so I certainly don't speak for them.


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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:14:28 GMT

In <1992Sep11.213758.24133@inel.gov> tqr@inel.gov (Tom Repetti) writes:

>In article <1992Sep11.174039.16004@ichips.intel.com>
>henstrom@pdx030.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Alex Henstrom) writes:
>> ....
>>In sumise the article stated that BYU was the most hated team because:
>> ...
>>        They are Mormons and there is a belief that all Mormons are racially
>>            intolerant. This due to the fact that afro-americans could not
>>            hold the priesthood in the Church until the late 70's.
>>
>> .... Most Mormons are not bigots despite belief otherwise. The Mormon church 
>> teaches against racial intolerance.
>>

>I live in a Mormon-dominated area of Idaho and have read a lot about the LDS
>church. Just a quickie to set the record straight here.

I was a member in a mormon-dominated area of Idaho and have read hundreds
of books about LDS doctrines, beliefs, and history (both pro- and con-).

>It's true that the Mormon church teaches against racial intolerance, but that's
>not the whole story. The Book of Mormon says that Way Back When, there was a
>war in Heaven and those who sided with the Devil's revolt against God had their
>skins turned a dark color as part of their punishment/shame. 

This is quite simply, not true.  The Book of Mormon hardly mentions the war
in heaven, let alone the role of blacks in it.  Furthermore, according to
the Mormon Pearl of Great Price, those who sided with the devil did NOT
receive bodies at all -- so they have no skin color.

>This is what the
>LDS church teaches about the origin of dark-skinned people. 

The LDS church has no policy or doctrine concerning the origin of dark-skinned
people.  Individuals may have their own theories, for which the church 
can hardly be held responsible.

>I look at the black
>players on BYU's team and wonder whether they know this. 

To graduate from BYU, they must take several religion classes, included
classes on the Book of Mormon.  I think it is safe to say that every one
of them has a better grasp on LDS theology than you, judging from your post.

>The LDS church may preach racial tolerance, but don't think that Mormons won't
>judge your chances of getting into Heaven just from your skin color. 

Official doctrine has always been that we are judged by our works.  Any member
who feels differently is not in harmony with the church.

>If you want to flame me, go ahead but let's do it by email. 

A word of advice:  please know the facts before you "set the record straight".

ObFootball comment:  If Shad Hansen hadn't been out with a concussion, BYU
might have held Faulk to only 200 yards.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Gigabit Study Group 

  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal/Purdue
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:34:50 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>o Cal got a major taste of humble pie that ought to last all
>  season

I hope so.

>o It came early in the year and not against a Pac-10 opponent

True.

>o The game wasn't televised, so they ought to be able to regain
>  some ranking in a few weeks

We would need to beat Washington, which I doubt will happen.
It will take at least seven more wins to get back into the
top 25.  That means only two more losses.  USC, UCLA, UW,
Kansas, and Stanford are still ahead.  The Bears have their
work cut out for them.

>o Gilbertson can use this as an "I told you so" on the team --
>  he'd been cautioning them all week against complacency.

The problem is that neither the Bears, nor any other team in the
country, can win if they don't play hard and play smart.
Look at games so far this year:  UCLA beat Fullerton only 37 to 7,
Northwestern gave ND a good game in the first half, after getting
trounced by Kansas 49 to 14, Oregon State comes back to wipe
out Fresno.  There is parity.  These are just college kids.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: How does the tie result change ND and Michigan ranking?
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Sep14.161840.20067@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:34:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.161840.20067@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> wakankar@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) writes:

   In article <BILLMS.92Sep14111953@z.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
   >   How do you guys think the ranking ND and Michigan after tie result?
   >
   >   My predication is  ND ==> 4 and Michigan ==> 5 . What do you think?
   >
   I heard it on the radio yesterday. Michigan drops to 6 and ND to 7.

   I think top 5 are
	   1. Miami
	   2. Washington
	   3. Florida state
	   4. Florida
	   5. Texas A & M


	   I think this is about right. ND tied at South bend. Any comments


Yes: you blew the citation above.  I did not say that.

Bill
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From: dpassage@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (David Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal flattens SJSU
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:02:11
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
	<SCOTT.92Sep6171354@scam.berkeley.edu>
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In-reply-to: scott@scam.berkeley.edu's message of 6 Sep 92 17:13:54

In article <DPASSAGE.92Sep5193248@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU>,
	dpassage@postgres.berkeley.edu (David Paschich) writes:

   % Cal 		46
   % San Jose State	16
   % Russell White	216 yards
   % 
   % Need I say more?

In article <SCOTT.92Sep6171354@scam.berkeley.edu>, 
	scott@scam.berkeley.edu (Scott Silvey) writes:

   Absolutely!

   You can add that Gilbertson was a perfect gentleman in pulling White 
   in the third quarter.  Also, you left out that White racked up this
   yardage with a consistent barrage of big runs over a mere 19 carries.
   If they wanted to hype White more for the Heisman, he might have gotten
   300 yards!

   Also, Cal's very offensive defense held San Jose to negative 40 yards
   rushing.  

   Cal's new Soph QB Dave Barr had an impressive debut with 18 of 27, no 
   int's and three TD's (that's a 66% completion rate).  And he was pulled 
   for much of the game to let the other two QB's play.  

   The total offensive yardage for Cal was 575 yards.

   Also, Dawkins had three TD catches, and a total of 130 something yards.

Well, sure, I could have written all that stuff.

But I didn't need to.  You came along and did it for me.

:)

David Paschich
GO BEARS!
From: pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: StupidWimpyConference Update
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:32:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science



SMU was in a position to win...7 seconds left in the game down by 1
with a 30 yard field goal to win it...and of course it went wide...SMU
got incredible official help at the end as well...I think an
unsportsmanlike conduct call reduced the field goal length from +40 to
30 yards. The fix was in but the kick was wide...

On  a happier note SMU men's soccer beat Drake 3-0 last night. Women's
soccer is 2-0. It's off the topic but it's about all we have to cheer
about here.
 
Ted Pedersen
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: u910779@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Rob Torok)
Subject: Outline of NCAA rules needed...
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:17:14 GMT

Could someone please help me, here in Australia it's hard to get any info about
American Football.  The next season of our local gridiron league is about to
start in a few weeks.  I'm going to be an official but I've only just started
getting into the game over the past few months, and I'm still a little unsure
of all the rules.  The guys who are playing have been working it out as
they go along, but what I need is a nice list of all the main rules for
college level games.  

If anyone has anything like this, or there is a FAQ about it, could you please
let me know?

Thanks,
Rob Torok
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC Games this week.
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:25:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: usa
Organization: Murasami Labs

Someone wrote:

> >}DUKE AT VANDERBILT:

Huh? How come Chris Stassen's Game list for 9/12 has:

Rice @ Duke

????????????????????????

James
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: UW HUSKIES WEEK-2 
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:26:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.000042.22828@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>chyang@waldorf.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>
>
>>I heard the score between the HUSKIES and the Badgers was 27-10.
>>What is wrong with the HUSKIES?!  Could someone fill me in or 
>>give me a synoposis of the game???  
>
>>I mean this really blows my mind, did Don James put in the Huskies
>>second team or something?  
>
>>Do they look like that they are going to get their acts together 
>>by next week???  
>
>I guess you know you've arrived when you can beat another school by
>17 points and people want to know what's wrong with the team and all
>the news reports say they "struggled".  I'll take a few more years
>of this struggling...
>
>-- 
>
>Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
>jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 

Well, considering that Michigan traditionally pounds the Badgers and 
they finished 2-6 in the Big Ten last year, as well the pounding 
that Washington delivered to Michigan in the RB last year, I'm 
surprised the Huskies didn't win by at least the same margin as 
last year's RB (20).  Yes, Wisconsin is improving, but the score's 
surprising nonetheless. 


==================================================================
Steve Johnston                                Go Blue! 
ssj@ais.org                              Webber, Rose & Co. 1993
Steve_Johnston@um.cc.umich.edu          NCAA Nat'l. Champs to be
Bluefront@HeroMud II (Heroine)
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: karen.aberli.1@nd.edu (Karen Aberli)
Subject: Re: ND vs FSU
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:26:42 GMT

In article <BuDBu9.Fu0@news.larc.nasa.gov>, ohmann@sab57.larc.nasa.gov
(Daring Dale Douglas) wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <1685E6D01.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com>, JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> |>
> |> In article <BuBsEt.1FC@news.larc.nasa.gov>
> |> ohmann@sab57.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas) writes:
> |>
> |>> Add FSU to the list of teams that ALWAYS beat Notre Dame.
> |>> 2-0 and still counting.  See ya in '93 and '94.
> |>                ^^^^^^^^
> |> Is that how well they teach counting at FSU?  I'd like to see
> |> you post the years and scores of these 2 victories.  I only
> |> see 1981 in which FSU beat ND 19-13.
> 
> 
> Someone help me on this one, please.
> The other game was within 1-3 years after the above mentioned game.
> If someone with a history book could post the other score it would 
> settle this here and now.
> 
> Granted both wins were "Faust Era" games.  Be that as it may, the 'Noles 
> travelled to South Bend both games because the Irish refused to play
> the Seminoles on the road.  FSU wanted to continue the series but only
> on a home-home basis.  Hence the long layoff.  Finally, ND has agreed
> to play a game in Doak-Campbell Stadium ('94), but only after another
> game in Indiana ('93).
> 
> But first things first, Clemson.
> Bobby "King of the Road" Bowden will have his team ready for the Tigers
> this weekend.  Clemson always puts up a good fight.  This won't be
> an easy game by any count.  Seminole defense will be the deciding
> factor.
> 
> 	FSU      24
> 	Clemson  17
> 
> Just another prediction.
> 
> 	Dale
> -- 
> =====================================================
I check the Notre Dame Football Media Guide.  Notre Dame and Florida State
have played only once, 1981.

Karen Aberli
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: vish@nd.edu (Vishwamber Yelsangikar)
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Uni or Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:00:50 GMT

 > JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> 
> >My brazen prediction:  Notre Dame 28
> >                       Michigan   20
 
I say it will be a high scoring game with Notre Dame winning the game by a
margin of 5 points.
Notre Dame   40
Michingan    35


Vishwamber Yelsangikar
Network Engineer.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Texas-Syracuse.   Good game, but..  : -(
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
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Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:14:07 GMT

John R. Boisseau (Jay) (boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu) wrote:
: I never thought much of McWilliams as a coach, but I thought what he did at
: the end of the A&M game two years ago (Horns ahead 28-27, get the ball in
: their own end, and _run_ it right down A&M's throat to the 1 yard line
: when A&M _knows_ it has to hold, then McWilliams has QB kneel instead of
: punching it in now that time has almost expired) was classy. He could have
: made the score 35-27, but (a) the game was really closer than that, and

Not to mention that I was in Vegas that weekend, and had money on A&M
plus 7!  You should have seen the local sitting next to me -- he was buying
us drinks, being real friendly, saying how he didn't really care who won,
he just had t.u., etc, etc.  Boy was he mad when they didn't punch it in...
he left (not so friendly anymore) cussing about how he just lost $1000.00.
Might be small pototoes to a LV native, but not me!

-- 
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From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Unabashed 'Cane Woof-o-Rama ;)
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:33:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Murasami Labs

Zarathustra wrote:

> offensive line. Should be corrected against the FAMU game next week. 

Just hope your 'canes don't fall asleep or get caught looking ahead,
or FAMU could put a scare into you. I don't think FAMU will win, but
stranger things have happened.

James
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU
From: <LIBSJE@BYUVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 10:32:09 MDT
Organization: Brigham Young University


In article <37948@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) says:
>
>In article <50cC03iy80Ib00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug
>Fierro) writes:
>>
>>   That Marshall Faulk guy sure looked awesome running at will against BYU.
>> Is he that good or is the BYU defense that bad?
>
>
>Faulk ran for 158 yards at Miami last year, outgaining 8 other Miami
>opponents single-handedly. In his last 5 games Faulk ran ~150 vs
                                                          ^^^^^
actually it was 118 yds.

>BYU, 158 vs Miami, 100 odd vs Tulsa, 220 vs USC, 299 vs BYU.
>Yes, he *is* that good. Of that bunch of teams, Miami and USC are
>no slouches against the run, especially Miami.
>
>
I would be the last to say that BYU has a great defense, but they are generally
 tougher against the run than they were against SDSU.  BYU was missing its top
three inside linebackers from the second quarter on in last week's game and    .
that really hurt them. Even so, I thought Faulk was incredible.  Too bad he
didn't get one more yard so he could have a 300 yd. game.

Scott

>>   Doug
>
>Faulk had 79 yds on 11 carries against UCLA last year. Not bad for a
>freshman playing his 4th game of the season.
>
>
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>| Prashanth                    |                      |
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: PSU/Miami Tickets
From: <LMD5@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:24:51 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

I'm in need/want of two PSU/Miami tickets for 10/10....please help me if
you can.  I have someone special coming into town for our first in person
meeting and I would love to take him to a game.....so...if you can help
email me at lmd5@psuvm.psu.edu

Thank you!    Go PSU!

Lisa Dibert
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Subject: Re: Unabashed 'Cane Woof-o-Rama ;)
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 01:12:13 GMT

In article <stricher-090992183613@stayman.ocean.fsu.edu> stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
>Zarathustra wrote:
>
>> offensive line. Should be corrected against the FAMU game next week. 
>
>Just hope your 'canes don't fall asleep or get caught looking ahead,
>or FAMU could put a scare into you. I don't think FAMU will win, but
>stranger things have happened.
>
>James

Oh boy, FAMU??? They barely got it up for Georgia Southern. And now you're 
talking Miami?? I know you don't think FAMU will win, but I don't think
FAMU will put a scare to Miami.
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:12:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

>In article <19476@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:

>California  55
>Purdue       2  [they will block a punt out of the endzone]
>-- 

No, they will try to run the option again, and Russell will fumble the
ball into the end zone.

The Bears tried the option twice against SJS: the first time White
fumbled, and the second time it was stopped for a loss.  Washington
was equally effective at running it last year.  I am not sure
why Gilbertson has it in the repetoire.

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