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From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.theory
Subject: RE: Weighted Suffrage
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:32:23 +1030
Organization: That damn kid is still here!

In article <ritter.720367686@claude> ritter@claude.ma30.bull.com
(Roger Ritter) writes:

>}If not that, then how about:  each person gets one vote on attaining
>}voting age.  If a person serves in the military, they get another vote.
>}Graduating from college gets yet another vote.  And finally, performing
>}a great service to the country gets a fourth (and final) vote.  The great
>}service should be roughly equivalent in uniqueness to the valor needed to
>}win a Medal of Honor.

>I read the book years ago and always liked the idea, in principle.
>Unfortunately, I don't think you could get it implemented short of bloody
>revolution.

Even if it was allowed in, how would it be run? There would have to be
some sort of massive electronic database to hold all the records. Even
today's biggest databases only hold a few million reccords so how is the
election database going to hold all that data?
And what about privacy and all that?

How are we going to go about voting - as it is with typists out the
back diligently plunking away or introduce electronic voting? Then
what about security?

Yeah, I agree with you that its absolutely great *in theory* but I
think it would end up being more trouble than it's worth.

-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
Any email can be posted unless I state explicitly otherwise.
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An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Marquis
#! rnews 2094
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Should religion be eliminated?
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:20:05 +1030
Organization: That damn kid is still here!

In article <1992Nov3.013741.605@dbased.nuo.dec.com>,
news@illusn.enet.dec.com (Mark Sornson) writes:

>>Scientific progress has come in spite of religion as the Galileo case
>>shows.  Religion has been a ball and chain around the ankle of society and
>>it is time to remove it once and for all.

>             Q1: Are you truly in favor of seeing the practice of religion
>                 (i.e., of all religions) eliminated throughout the earth?

No, but I hope one day it will be gone. I believe morals are relative, so
I don't think I have the right to force my beliefs on others. However,
if they try to force their religion on me I will strike back.

When I say 'no', I mean I wont ban it. In fact, should someone try to
legislate a ban on religion, I would stop it! Instead, I would rather
have people know that they don't need religion and it is nothing more
than a dangerous mind-altering drug.

>             Q2: If you are in favor of seeing religion eliminated from
>                 the world, how do you think this should and could be
>                 accomplished?

At the moment, I'd go about trying to get schools to teach children to
think rather to absorb and obey. That's to stop this authoritarianism,
but the annihilation of most religion that would result is an added
benefit.

-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
Any email can be posted unless I state explicitly otherwise.
+-----------------------------------------------------+    ________
|  Obligatory disclaimer: UniSA hates my opinions...  |  \/Darwin o\
+-----------------------------------------------------+  /\________/
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Marquis
#! rnews 1751
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Pro-Choice CAN justify calling infanticide murder
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:13:35 +1030
Organization: Oh look, a lifeform!

Some people are saying that if you support abortion right at
the last minute then there is no difference between that and
infanticide two days after birth.

RUBBISH!

A newborn, although requiring support for the next few years
of it's life does NOT have to be a burden on anyone who doesn't
want it to be, anybody (but a lactated woman is preferable) can
look after it.

For a fetus it's a different story, it's inside a woman who,
wihtout abortion, has NO CHOICE but to support it wether she
likes it or not. "What about C-section?" yeah sure, if you don't
mind major surgery, then there's all the shame of 'abandoning'
her child (this was the point I was trying to get across in WHY,
if there was no shame, there would be a few more women prepared
to take the fetus to term).

Once a child is born, anybody can take the responsibility so
there is no need to kill it if it is unwanted (deformations
etc would probably lead to an abortion LONG before birth, 
unless the prolife weenies stuck their noses in.)
-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
Any email can be posted unless I state explicitly otherwise.
+-----------------------------------------------------+    ________
|  Obligatory disclaimer: UniSA hates my opinions...  |  \/Darwin o\
+-----------------------------------------------------+  /\________/
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Marquis
#! rnews 1295
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Australian peeves
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:59:48 +1030
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Oh look, a lifeform!

In article <lfdeplINNcbk@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>,
geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

> But aren't they the same thing?  I thought New Zealand was a state of
> Australia.

It WAS, sorta, until Federtion in 1901. They didn't join because
of the time it took for communication to take place. There have
been some strange rumours about asking NZ if they want to join
again but I doubt it.


Peeve: people who took me so seriously in the Skinhead thing. Sheesh.
-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
Any email can be posted unless I state explicitly otherwise.
+-----------------------------------------------------+    ________
|  Obligatory disclaimer: UniSA hates my opinions...  |  \/Darwin o\
+-----------------------------------------------------+  /\________/
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Marquis
#! rnews 3874
From: Chris.Steketee@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.offered,aus.jobs,sa.cs
Subject: Lecturer in Comp and Info Science, Adelaide, South Australia
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:36:35 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

                 UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH AUSTRALIA
                         LEVELS CAMPUS
          SCHOOL OF COMPUTER AND INFORMATION SCIENCE

Applications  are invited for the following  position  in  the
School  of  Computer  and Information Science  at  the  Levels
campus, Adelaide.

AS92/49 Lecturer Level B                  Tenurable (1.0 time)

The  appointee  will  be expected to contribute  to  both  the
teaching  and research/consultancy activities of  the  School.
Preference  will  be given to a candidate with  experience  in
teaching  Information  Systems or  Software  Engineering,  but
others are encouraged to apply also.

The School of Computer and Information Science teaches highly-
regarded   professionally-oriented   computing   courses    at
undergraduate  and postgraduate levels, including  Master  and
PhD  degrees  by research.  Research is focussed primarily  in
database   systems,  decision  support  systems  and   complex
software   systems.    Interaction  with   industry   provides
excellent   opportunities  for  collaborative   research   and
consultancy.  Computing facilities include large  VAX/VMS  and
Sun  Unix systems, Sun workstations, Macintoshes and PCs, with
extensive networking.

Duties:    Prepare  and  present  subjects  in  Computer   and
Information Science at undergraduate and postgraduate  levels;
supervise  student  projects;  participate  in  research   and
consulting    activities   of   the   School;   assist    with
administrative  tasks  as  required;  supervise   postgraduate
research students if possible.

QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE
Essential Criteria
Research  degree  in  Computer  and  Information  Science   or
equivalent  qualifications and experience;  ability  to  teach
Computer   and   Information  Science  at  undergraduate   and
postgraduate  levels;  ability  to  teach  relevant  computing
skills   to   other  disciplines;  demonstrated   ability   to
participate in research.

Applicants  for  the  above  positions  must  obtain  a   role
statement  from Dr. C.F. Steketee, phone +61 8  302-3194,  fax
+61  8 302-3381, email "Chris.Steketee@UniSA.edu.au" and  must
address   the  essential  and  desirable  criteria  in   their
application.

Seven  copies  of application and curriculum vitae  should  be
addressed to Personnel Officer, Smith Road, Salisbury East  SA
5109,  and  should  include the names and addresses  of  three
persons from whom confidential references may be sought.

Applications close 5.00 pm Friday 20 November 1992.

Salary:  Level B $41000 - $48688

Superannuation is available to all staff members.

The University reserves the right to appoint by invitation, or
not to make an appointment.
THE UNIVERSITY IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER
#! rnews 1030
Relay-Version: VMS News - V5.9C 19/12/89 VAX/VMS V5.4; site levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: To people selling games.
From: dbartel@csaadel.adl.csa.oz.au (Danny Bartel)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:16:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Sciences of Australia Pty Limited, Adelaide
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi all, I read with envy all those posts of people in the USA selling games, which
even considering converting to Australian $ and adding shipping, look like good
prices to me. If any of you people selling games have the facilities to accept
payment by MasterCard, please mention in your post. No money conversion hassles
nor delay in transferring funds. (Or can anyone think of an alternative way to
sell games OS?)

I'd love to buy many of the games being sold, but getting US bank drafts or money
orders is expensive, awkward, and probably too slow to satisfy the sellers.

Danny Bartel

#! rnews 1592
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Don't believe anything you hear!
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:53:13 +1030
Organization: Oh look, a lifeform!

In article <Bx7B51.6Dz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, @expert.cc.purdue.edu
(adamsma@expert.cc.purdue.edu) writes:

[some crap that Mr Schneider has already dealt with deleted]

> P.S.  If you don't believe that it gets dark at night, does that keep it from
> getting dark? 

We have already had proof that it will get dark since it got dark
the night before, and the night before that, and so on as far as
we can remember, so why should we not believe it now?

Your analogy fails utterly because there is NO PROOF that gods
exist whilst there IS PROOF for it getting dark.

A lesser point but by no means unimportant is that we always
have the choice to question all things around us and come up
with our own conclusions as to wether it's going to get dark
or not. You, my friend, would be abused by your leaders for
doing so.
-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
Any email can be posted unless I state explicitly otherwise.
+-----------------------------------------------------+    ________
|  Obligatory disclaimer: UniSA hates my opinions...  |  \/Darwin o\
+-----------------------------------------------------+  /\________/
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Marquis
#! rnews 1116
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Don't believe a.... Sorry Mr Ryan!
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:56:00 +1030
Organization: Oh look, a lifeform!

In article <19245.2afd9a59@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
(The Eidolon) writes:

> [some crap that Mr Schneider has already dealt with deleted]

Sorry Mr Ryan, I knew it was one of the Keiths around the place.

> John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
Any email can be posted unless I state explicitly otherwise.
+-----------------------------------------------------+    ________
|  Obligatory disclaimer: UniSA hates my opinions...  |  \/Darwin o\
+-----------------------------------------------------+  /\________/
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Marquis
#! rnews 1628
From: ccdps@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: Wanted: PD NFS client for DOS
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:15:42 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1992Nov3.021543.8706@spectrum.xerox.com>, leisner@wrc.xerox.com ( Marty Leisner) writes:
> Erick Engelke (erick@demorgan.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
> :  jbvb@ftp.com writes:
> : >
> : >    Is there a PD NFS client that I can use on my PC to get to the disk
> : >    on Unix? ...  Alternativly, is there a good reason why something
> : >    like this hasn't been written and put in the Public Domain?
> : >
> : >Writing/testing/debugging a DOS I/O redirector is a longer process than
> : >you might think, and debugging everyone's oddball DOS-abusing application
> :
> : So suppose we convince several schools to support these people, I
>
> I don't like shareware, I think freeware is much more useful and more productive
> (and generally works much better -- there ain't shareware like X Windows or GNU).

  etc etc.

  Excuse me, but isn't SOSS more or less what the original poster was looking
  for? And whether or not this is the case, if you want to get some idea of
  what is involved with writing a NFS, try eavesdropping on the network
  channels of the Linux project.

--
 Dan Shearer                        email: Dan.Shearer@UniSA.edu.au
 Information Technology Branch      Phone: +61 8 302 3479
 University of South Australia      Fax  : +61 8 302 3385
#! rnews 993
From: Rollo.Ross@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.system
Subject: Student accounts to expire soon
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:21:13 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

	Student accounts on VAXes and Unix systems run by the Information 
Technology Branch will expire early in December, and their files will be 
removed in preparation for essential system maintenance activities. If you 
want to keep your student account over the Christmas break, for example to
complete project work, please let your lecturer know as soon as possible. He 
or she will need to let your system support person know that the account needs 
to be kept.
	Note that the normal rules of "approved academic use" still apply over 
the break. You won't be popular if you want your account so you can keep up 
with the Dungeons and Dragons newsgroup!
-- 
                                    Rollo Ross, Network Manager (CLW campuses)
#! rnews 4249
From: mardm@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: SYLK file format - help locate
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:19:46 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

Is there a description of the SYLK file format available on the internet?
Any help or references appreciated.

Riccardo Macri
Software Engineer,
University of South Australia
#! rnews 2837
From: marwk@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.cis.prog.f.02462
Subject: Final lecture material
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:41:45 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

Contents of the final lecture.


1990 EXAM Q8.

INTEGER MAX_SIZE, NUM_PRACS, N
PARAMETER (MAX_SIZE = 200)
PARAMETER (NUM_PRACS = 7)

CHARACTER *8 ID(MAX_SIZE)
INTEGER PRAC(MAX_SIZE, NUM_PRACS)

Assume that N students have had their ID's and practicalmarks arecorded on a
data file and have already been read into the arrays ID() and PRAC(,).

(a) Write a subroutine which requests the id, S_ID, of a student whose marks
are to be requested, using a prompt.

(b) Write a function which uses a WHILE loop to find the location of
student id, S_ID, in the list of id's, ID(), returning the location in LOC;
e.g. if the id is in the 4th element of the array then LOC should be 4.  If
the student is not in the listn, LOC is to be made equal to -1.

(c) Write a subroutine which makes use of the subprograms in (a) and (b) to
request a student id, finds the lcoation of this student in the list, if it
exists there, and displays an error message if it isn;t there, and displays the
practical marks and the sum of the prac marks for this student if found
in the list.

SOLUTION

      SUBROUTINE GET_ID(S_ID)
      CHARACTER *8 S_ID

      PRINT 100, 'Enter student ID:'
  100 FORMAT('$', A)

      READ 200, S_ID
  200 FORMAT(A)

      END


      INTEGER FUNCTION LOC(ID, N, S_ID)
      INTEGER N
      CHARACTER *(*) ID(N), S_ID
      INTEGER I

      I = 1
***   WHILE more to look through
   10 CONTINUE
      IF (I .LE. N) THEN

          IF (ID(I) .EQ. S_ID) THEN
              LOC = I
*             Found the id so leave the function now
              RETURN
          ENDIF

          I = I + 1

       GOTO 10
       ENDIF
***    END WHILE

       LOC = -1

       END


       SUBROUTINE DISPLAY(ID, PRAC, N, MAX_SIZE, NUM_PRACS)
       INTEGER N,MAX_SIZE, NUM_PRACS
       CHARACTER *(*) ID(N), PRAC(MAX_SIZE, NUM_PRACS)

       CHARACTER *8 S_ID
       INTEGER P, ROW, SUM

       CALL GET_ID(S_ID)

       ROW = LOC(ID, N, S_ID)

       IF (POS .EQ. -1) THEN
           PRINT *, 'The sought-after student is not in the list'
       ELSE
           SUM = 0
           DO P = 1, NUM_PRACS
               SUM = SUM + PRAC(ROW, P)
           END DO

           PRINT 100, (PRAC(ROW, P), P = 1, NUM_PRACS), SUM
  100      FORMAT(' ', <NUM_PRACS>I5, 3X, I5)
       END IF

       END
--
Raymond Kennington
LECTURER
University of South Australia   | Act in haste and repent at leisure
P.O. Box 1                      | Code too soon and debug forever
Ingle Farm                      | Knobs, knobs everywhere,
South Australia                 |              just vary a knob to think!
#! rnews 3723
From: mabrd@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: The agony of being a 36'er fan
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:52:16 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

The local Adelaide paper, the Advertiser, reports today that Brisbane
has secured the services of Bruce Palmer. Palmer was reported to have
been close to signing a long term deal with Adelaide before Brisbane made
him an offer `he couldn't refuse'. Apparently the 36'ers management
held off on Palmer whilst (for some reason known only to themselves)
waiting to see if Brian Goorjin was going to become available.

I can't believe the ineptitude of this. There was more than just
the benefit of having a good coach for Adelaide in having Palmer
here. His high profile might have encouraged some needed quality
players to Adelaide. This has been a major weakness in the program
here for ages, : (Dan Clausen, Simon Cottrell (who never got any
minutes), Jerry Dennard (a tryer) Mike Corkeron (overated with
bad knees) Kim (who?) Taylor), hardly an imposing list.
Add to this the fact that Scott Ninnis was keen to come back
(to his business and family) if Palmer was appointed and
rumours about Scott Fisher etc and you have a big loss to the
Adelaide program.

I am tired of the small town attitude that this management has.
We have seen players of the calibre of Leroy Loggins and Phil
Smyth lost to the town because of `better offers', a championship
coach sacked and replaced by a nobody (Gary Fox, who never
got much support anyway) and then Don Shipway ( a mate of
a group on the board who, believe it or not, are now
suggesting that he should be reinstated) who made some of
the dumbest choices in players (apart from Butch Hays) you could
imagine. We also watched Mathew Reece and Scott Ninnis go elsewhere
so they could develop.

We have two of the finest young players in the country (Brett Maher
and Chris Blakemore). We need a coach who can develop young talent.
I suppose what we will end up with is some coach rejected by some
other program or someone who comes cheap. If Adelaide can't compete
with other clubs on money it makes their decision not to get Palmer
when they could have even worse. Geeeeezzz!!!!
From: 00prneubauer@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Paul Neubauer)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: The church and Galileo
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:08:05 GMT
Organization: Ball State U.

In article <kmr4.34.720730852@po.CWRU.edu>, 
 kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M Ryan) writes:
> In article <1d3ohbINN8nr@gap.caltech.edu> 
>  keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
>>
>>Ah, but it has already happened.  In fact, this was the very thing that
>>Martin Luther was so upset about.  At the time, it was Catholic policy that
>>one could pay money to get his sins forgiven (the worse the sin, the more
>>it would cost).  What were these things called...  indolences or something?
> 
> 	Indulgences. However, it wasn't the same as we today like to think 

I know that I'm way late on this and that Keith Ryan already gave the
correct answer, but I can't help commenting on 'indolence' as the word
for this.  It sounds as if the person buying the 'indulgence' was too
lazy to really repent and do penance or something.  I love it!

PS if you still don't get it, look up 'indolence' in the dictionary.
:-)

-- 
Paul Neubauer   00prneubauer@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu  00prneubauer@bsuvax1.BITNET
                00prneubauer@bsu-ucs.UUCP       neubauer@bsu-cs.UUCP
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons to Bash Atheists
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:17:07 GMT
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco

ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik ) writes:
>
>So, someone just took the bash-fundies list, and rewrote it, and 
>then cited Maddi as the originator. That's really sick...

No, the attribution was just a bit confused in some of the followups.
Check back in your news spool for the original article and the
original retort; I think they were posted about a week or so ago.

-- 
_/_/_/  Brian Kendig                             Je ne suis fait comme aucun
 _/_/  bskendig@netcom.com                de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
  _/                            n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
        "Sex is DEATH!"      Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
         -- Barbara Bush                                         -- Rousseau
Newsgroups: alt.atheism