From: Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipset
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 15 Dec 92  12:15:02

In article <Bz84Aw.CGt@news.iastate.edu>
barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:

>   How do you base this statement?  The IBM 8-bit XT bus offers good
>performace with the 8086 and 8088 processors for which it was designed.  The
>16-bit ISA bus also offers good performance with the 80286 processors for
>which it was designed.

BAHAHAHA!  BahAhAHA!  <falling off chair> .. sniff*  That was funny.

>   Granted, the industry had to wait a while to get a bus
> standard that offers
>good performance with the Intel 32-bit processors, but the wait wasn't 12

Where  did  you  pull  out  this  12  year  figure?   Lets  see,  when  did
MicroChannel  come  out..  1988?  or so?  And EISA was a after that.  Thats
what..  a 7 year wait?  The Amiga came out in 1985, and we got Zorro III in
1990,  only a 5 year wait, for a bus standard that is supperior to anything
else.

How  many  IBM's have EISA or Microchannel?  Not very many.  And 99% of all
cards are for 16 bit ISA and will remain so for quite a while.

>   BTW, is the Amiga market totally free of long waits for updates to basic
>technologies?  How long will we have to wait for virtual memory from
>Commodore?

Who cares?  If I wanted VM, I'd go buy Gigamem *right now*.

>(I noted in the transcripts of Lou Eggebrecht's (sp) talks that Commodore has
>no plans for virtual memory)  How long did the Amiga market have to wait for
>decent color capability?

It  depends  on  what  your  definition  of  decent  colour  capability is.
Apparently, you're still waiting, since you've said repeatedly that AGA and
the  A4000  were big disapointments.  Meanwhile the rest of the Amiga world
has  had  the  Video Toaster, DCTV, DMI Resolver, Firecracker, etc etc, for
quite some time now.

>How long will the Amiga market have to wait for
>updates to the sound capabilities in the lowest-common-denominator Amigas?

Sunrize  DSP  card(S!)  are available now, there is a 32 voice 16 bit sound
card  based  on the E-mu proteous chips, and last but not least Commodore's
own  DSP  is  on the way.  And what about the lowest-common-denominator IBM
clones?   Those  things have NO SOUNDS TO BE HEARD (quote from Red Dwarf :)
asside from a simple beeper.

The  Amiga  is  doing  quite  well in this regard.  *ALL* Amigas have sound
comparable to SoundBlaster's, and can be upgraded from there.

>How long will the Amiga market have to wait for memory protection and OS
>features to make AmigaOS virus-resistant?  How long will
>the Amiga market have

No  OS  is  ever  virus-resistant.  Memory protection is much harder to add
than  you  think.   Being  a  brainless  wonder with no real knolege of how
AmigaOS works, I don't expect you to understand.

>to wait for device-independent graphics?  How long will the Amiga market

Not  long.   They're  working on it.  In the mean time, several third party
companies have created their own solutions to the problem.

>have to wait for CD-ROM support from Copmmodore for the higher-end Amigas?

Step  one:   Buy  SCSI  CD-ROM  and  attach.   Step two:  Buy simple CD-ROM
software from one of many sources.  Step three:  Use CD-ROM.

>How long will the Amiga market have to wait for MPEG decompression hardware
>products for the high-end Amigas?

Ever  heard  of  the  DMI Digital Editmaster?  It digitizes, compresses and
saves  to  harddrive  full  colour video at 30FPS using JPEG compression at
ratios  from  15:1  to  70:1.   Naturaly, it will play it back also in real
time.  Who needs MPEG when you can do JPEG in real time?  The list price is
$2495.

How  long must we wait for your brain to catch up to present time?  Are you
stuck in a time-dilation feild generated by the incredible denseness of the
bone in your head?

>   Hardly.  In the PC industry, most of R&D is spent on software-oriented
>research and development.  The Amiga market seems must more infatuated with

BULL.   Most  of  the  R&D  is spent on developing incredibly cheap crapola
hardware to sell to brainless consumers like you.

>hot hardware and less oriented toward real computing applications.  This is

Yeah.   We  have  all  kinds  of  hot hardware and no way at all to use it.
Sure.   Thousands  of  people bought Toasters and just dont know what to do
with them since there's no real software for it.

>possibly because 90% of Amiga owners are the types who have more credit than
>brains, and are continuously spending 80% of their family's after-tax incomes
>on Amiga hardware.

Oh,  and  you've  done  a  poll of Amiga owners?  A true random sampling of
several  thousand  Amiga  owners around the world?  I dont think so.  Marc,
shut up!  You are pulling figures out of the air based on NO FACTS.

>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu

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