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From: rla20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Roger Allen)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: FAQ/ALLEN requests
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:18:41 GMT
Reply-To: rla20@cd.amdahl.com (Roger Allen)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Could someone send me the FAQ list for this newsgroup?

I am starting out in geneaology and would like to know what the Internet
has to offer.

Currently I am researching my Father's side of the family.  If anyone
happens to know of an Ethan Allen (b. 1813 in NY) who moved to
Michigan and raised a family with Elly(?) and then moved to Wisconsin in
1870 and raised a family with Olive Tarbox, I'd appreciate hearing from
you.

Thanks,

Roger.
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From:         "Harry D. Liggett" <ac853@MEDINA.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      NEMAHA AGENCY
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

Does anyone know about the Great Nemaha Agency that was located
about  25 miles west of St. Joseph, MO?  I am seeking information
on a Major John Cray and a brother-in-law, Thomas BILDERBACK.
Bilderback, a father of 10, apparently died there on 15 Aug 1854
of cholera.

    Harry Liggett, 544 N. Firestone Blvd., Akron, OH 44301-2254
    Researching surnames: LIGGETT, BILDERBACK, COUCH, DENNING,
    GOURLEY, HAMILTON, McDONALD, PENN, PRESTON, PYLES, YOST

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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:16:02 MST
Reply-To:     Eric Ross <Eric@CCCC.CC.COLORADO.EDU>
From:         Eric Ross <Eric@CCCC.CC.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      California Gold Rush
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According to family tradition, my gg-grandfather Otis Joslyn
(or Joslin) b. 1835 went to California at age 15, quickly found gold,
sold his claim (cheaply) in anticipation of another quick strike, and
returned home some time later poorer and wiser.

I would greatly appreciate suggestions about how I might verify this
story.  Thanks in advance!

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From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
Subject: Re:      Re: PAF tricks
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:21:57 GMT

Thanks for your help, Carol, and to all the people who have
responded with good suggestions.  I will go home tonight 
and try them.  That's pretty fast service for someone who
just discovered this newsgroup yesterday.  -- Jean
--
Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
                                           --Carlyle                        
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:37:06 -0500
Reply-To:     Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
From:         Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Parents, Spouses, Children (was: Re: PAF tricks)
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Tom Lincoln says:

> Genealogical relationships are what one defines them to be within
> some social group. It you want to join the DAR, you have to go by
> their rules.  If you don't, then you may use other rules.

Amen!  Thomas T. Wetmore...IV is welcome to set his own standards,
but it seems to me that the rest of us can set our own --
*** as long as we make it clear what they are. ***

For example, you might decide to chart all of your genealogies.  You
set up three separate data files on your computer (whose hardware and
software, of course are clearly specified :-) ) and give each file a
letter (A, B, C).  Each chart number is prefixed with the appropriate
letter:

A = your adoptive parents' family (to keep track of the cousins)
B = your birth parents' family (medical histories, etc.)
C = the family of a friend whom you regard as another parent, who has
    shared with you a culture different from A and B (to show your
    own children where some of their holiday customs come from)

Seems like a perfectly logical system to me (I'm half Vulcan and I can
prove it).  BUT if you do anything nonstandard like this, it is
important to write explanations everywhere they might be needed -- on
any charts you send anyone, and in a prominent place in your own
records.  Thus, if (perish forbid) you get mashed by a meteorite and
someone finds your records 200 years from now, they can figure out
what you meant by all this.

If I'm not careful I'll reopen the question of where to leave (copies
of) your records for future generations to use.

BTW, ancestry societies can make their own rules, which may not be
what some of us consider logical.  I once spoke with a genealogist who
had been rejected by some prestigious society (I forget which one)
because one of his ancestors was an unmarried mother.  The ancestry he
was using was through the mother, not the baby's father, but the
society would accept only "legitimate" ancestry.

Carol Botteron  (descendant of several illegitimate children and
first-cousin marriages: aren't we all?)    botteron@bu-it.bu.edu
From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Very confusing months !
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:03:45 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
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RIGAUT@FRURBB51.BITNET writes:
: RE:  Dates, etc.
: 
: I think that this might be useful for some of you who might have to read old
: French documents (up to 19th C, sometimes even early 20th C).
: 
: In manuscript documents (even official records), one often finds months
: expressed in the following way, e.g. :
: 
:  7bre   =   VIIbre          =     septembre     =     September
:  8bre   =   VIIIbre         =     octobre       =     October
:  9bre   =   IXbre           =     novembre      =     November
: 10bre   =   Xbre            =     de'cembre     =     December
: 
: This can be quite confusing if you're not used to it, especially if you have no
: knowledge of Latin, e.g. 10bre could be mistaken as being the 10th month of the
: year, whereas it is the 12th !
i
	The Spanish do this too - looks the same becasue spanish months
end in - bre
. Viz: septiembre, octubre etc.

Richard Pennell
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:53:33 EDT
Reply-To:     JOEL@DELPHINUS.LIB.UMB.EDU
From:         JOEL@DELPHINUS.LIB.UMB.EDU
Subject:      Re: Has anyone seen this book?
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

> Subject:    Re: Has anyone seen this book?

> On Wed, 9 Dec 1992, Tom Lincoln wrote:
>
> > The History of our Cradle Land
> > T. H. Kinsella, L.L.D
> > ? publisher 1921
> >
> > About the early history of Kansas...
> >
> > Tom Lincoln
>
> Although I have not seen the book I found the following full citation in
> the National Union Catalog -- Pre 1965 Imprints, v. 297, p. 171:
>
> Kinsella, Thomas H.
>         A centenary of Catholocity in Kansas, 1822-1922; the history
of our cradle land (Miami and Linn Counties) Catholic Indian
missions and missionaries of Kansas, the pioneers on the prairies;
notes on St. Mary's Mission, Sugar Creek ... [etc.] to which is
added a short sketch of the Ursuline Academy at Paola, the diary of
Father Hoecken and old Indian records, written and compiled by
Reverend Thomas H. Kinsella.  Kansas City, Casey Printing Co., 1921
251 pages. >
> At the time that the NUC was compiled the following libraries held this
> title:
>
> University of Missouri at Columbia
> St. Benedicts College, Atchison, Kansas
> University of Missouri at Kansas City
> University of Texas at Austin
> State Historical Society of Wisconsin at Madison
>
OCLC currently shows as holding the above title:

Univ. of Dayton, Ohio
Catholic Univ., WDC
Pittsburg State Univ., Pittsburgh, KS
Benedictine Coll., Atchison, KS
K.C. Public Library, K.C., MO
St. Meinrad Coll., St. Meinrad, IN
Rockhurst Coll., K.C., MO
St. Louis Univ., St. Louis, MO
Christ the King Seminary, E. Aurora, N.Y.



 Joel Fowler (Joel@delphinus.lib.umb.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:54:00 EST
Reply-To:     JMFREED@CC.OWU.EDU
From:         JMFREED@CC.OWU.EDU
Subject:      Confusing Months and Quaker Records
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.edu

The comments about "confusing months" (e.g., October being the 8th
month, December the 10th month, etc.) reminds me of research that I did
a number of years ago on Quaker records, in which those records with which
I was working did NOT use the names of the months, but used just "8th
month" or "10th month" (etc.).  At the time I was rather certain that the
Quakers were also using December as the 10th month, etc.  My question
to those of you who have recently worked in Quaker records:  Was there a
uniform date in all Quaker records where the 10th month became October and
NOT December?  AND when did their "new year" begin in January and not
begin in March?  As you can see, whay may have been recorded as a
birth in the 11th month of 1723, was, in our present calendar, the
first month of 1724.  I hope that a netter will reply to the net with
some well-documented information on this subject.
--Jim Freed, OWU, Delaware, OH --
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Homesteading and other questions....
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:03:07 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

LGG4BD@IRISHMVS.BITNET (Dorothy M. Paul (219) 239-8694) writes:


>     2.  Do other people make a chronological lists of their
>         ancestor's lives?  With my nomad (and no-information)

>Then when I thought about it I wondered how hard this would be
>to do for my whole family tree -- and then I could add in
>historical mile stones (American Rev., Civil War, births and
>deaths of English monarchs, etc.)

>          Has anyone done this, or something simular?  If so
>        please share tips that you have on streamlining
>        the process.

In the LifeLines system one can use repetitive place and event records that 
pretty much track the whereabouts and activities of a person or family. I've 
not yet keyed much data in like this as it is a big job, but I have the vision 
in my head. Eventually, as I accumulate more and more data this type of 
recordkeeping will result in a genealogy that will be more than a bunch of 
dates and should result in a basis for a family history.

I'm not sure if other systems also have the flexibility of making your own 
genealogical records as needed. The entire gamut of gedcom 5.0 tags can be 
used to describe every facet of a person's life and available records.

One does need a UNIX system to do this though. It may be worth the expense if 
genealogy is a serious enough venture.



>THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT HAS BEEN SO GENEROUS WITH YOUR
>TIME TO HELP THE REST OF US -- MERRY CHRISTMAS AND GOD BLESS YOU
>    EVERYONE !!!  I WISH YOU A FRUITFUL NEW YEAR !!!

Let it be echoed thruout the net.

Fred



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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:47:19 EST
Reply-To:     FORPPM@GSUVM1.BITNET
From:         FORPPM@GSUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      DAYTON FAMILY of TN, NC and GA 1860's to present

 A fellow LISTSERVER dropped the name of John Rea at the University
 of Kentucky - I don't have his direct address so the direct method
 may get the best results for info on the DAYTON Family.

 My grandmother was born Dora Bell Dayton in 1906.  She married
 Dean Ireland Moreland and she still lives in northeast Georgia
 today.  Her father was Sam DAYTON who married Rosena ELLER.  The Eller
 side can be traced back to Rev. Aaron PINSON in the mid 1700's thru
 the HEDDEN Family.

 Sam DAYTON was born 3 Jan 1884 in Hiawassee, GA.  His father was Silas
 DAYTON and his mother was Adaline SMITH.  We have no more info on Adaline
 and since Smith is such a widely-used name I don't know what sort of
 miracle we'll need to find info on her ancestry.

 Silas DAYTON's parents were Joe Abner and Lisa (?) DAYTON.  Joe Abner
 served in the Civil War but died from an attack of the measles before
 making much history.  The DAYTON Family came from Sweetwater, TN in
 the extreme eastern part of the state then moved to NC and before
 1884 had settled in the Titus and Hightower sections of Towns County,
 Hiawassee, GA.

 Silas DAYTON (d. 1937) was known as a many of extraordinary strength.
 Legend goes that he once caught a buck by its antlers and restrained
 it until another many in his hunting party killed it.  The DAYTON's I
 know are tall, thin and devout religious Protestants.

 Silas was also known as "the Judge" by the citizens of his community.
 His arbitration was requested in settling disputes of his neighbors.
 Is this possibly a hold-over of the Gaelic / Brythonic Code which
 was still in force in Ireland before the 1840's?

 If anyone has any data relating to to the DAYTON Family, I would be
 happy to reciprocate in any way possible.

 Paul M. Marshall, Language Acquistion & Resource Center Coordinator
 Georgia State University, Modern & Classicla Languages,
 Atlanta, GA  30303  404 / 651-2265  pmarshal@gsuvm1.bitnet

 Researching:
 DAYTON  1860's - present  Sweetwater, TN>NC>GA
 SMITH   1860's - present  TN>NC>GA
 PINSON  1730's - 1853     NC>SC>TN>GA
 HEDDEN  1730's - present  Wales>NC>TN>GA
 ELLER   1747   - present  Germany>from Rotterdam on the Restauration>NC>GA
 MORELAND1880's - present  Murphy, NC>Hiawassee,GA
 COWART  1880's - present  Murphy, NC>Hiawassee,GA
 CHASTAIN1600's - present  le Dauphne,France>ENG>VA>NC>GA
 MARSHALL1841   - present  Murphy, NC>Hiawassee,GA>Young Harris, GA
 RIGHT   1797   - present  Asheville, NC>Young Harris,GA
 REED    1797   - present     "                "
 PLEMMONS1809   - 1854        "                "
 CREASMON1800   - present     "                "
 STROUP  1780   - present     "                "
 NEWMAN  1861   - present   Murphy, NC>Young Harris, GA
 SMITH   1880's - present   TN>NC>GA
 CORN    1880's -   ?      Hiawassee,GA>Boise,Idaho
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:03:12 PST
Reply-To:     "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 14-Dec-1992 1157" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
From:         "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 14-Dec-1992 1157" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Grover/Torry Inquiry
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

I'm tracing my wife's family, GROVER and TORRY, and found them in Vermont
in the early 1700s. These surnames are not ones that I am familar with so
I was wondering if anyone on the net had any idea the country of origin
of the surname GROVER or TORRY.

If anyone has any information about the surname GROVER or TORRY, or any
particular individuals of those names from the Vermont/Massachusetts please
respond.

There is a possiblity that one of my wife's ancestors fought with the
Green Mountain Boys in Vermont during the American Revolutionary War. I
don't know if this was the GROVER or TORRY side of her family.

Thanks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Holland
Digital Equipment Corp.
305 Rockrimmon Blvd.
Colorado Springs, Colorado
(719)592-5964
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For myself I'm researching the following surnames:

HOLLAND, CHAPMAN, JACOBS, WAMBLE OR WOMBLE, HESTER, BAKER, GRIMMER, TRAWICK
SHOUTER, STRINGER, MONTGOMERY USA/AL/FL/GA/SC/VA early 1700s until Present

SMITH, SCOTT, PRITCHARD, KITTLE, DENNISON, SKIDMORE, SHELTON, DALTON, THARP
OR THORP, GARVIN, MOODY OR MODE, JOHNSON, STALNAKER, CRAWFORD, SKINNER, DAVIS
USA/WV/VA/PA/NJ/IRELAND/SCOTLAND/WALES/GERMANY early 1700s until Present

For my wife I'm researching the following surnames:

GROVER, TORRY, MOORE, ADAIR, HENDERSON, SAYELS, MCMURRAY, GANER, WOOD,
LEWIS, MCALISTER, MCSWEENEY
SCOTLAND/IRELAND/USA/VT/MA early 1700s to present
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:50:48 EST
Reply-To:     George Waller <HBLADM47@UCONNVM.BITNET>
From:         George Waller <HBLADM47@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PAF tricks
              16 Dec 1992 11:23:00 PST from <Roy@SOC.SSCNET.UCLA .EDU>

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:23:00 PST <Roy@SOC.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU> said:
>I'm also interested in connecting children to unmarried parents in PAF.  A
>related question:  Is there any way to get around the requirement that
>couples be of the opposite gender?  I guess no computer program is ever
>entirely value free.
>
>Bill Roy

The way to get around it is to "lie" to the program, e.g. enter a MALE
in a FEMALE record. My guess is that most genealogical software could be
revised (by the programmers) so that couples could be same sex.

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From: sjarman@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (SHIRLEY JARMAN)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: SHIPPELHOUTE
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:07:54 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu


I am posting this message for a friend.  His name is Dean SHIPPELHOUTE the some
of Henry Carl SHIPPELHOUTE.  Henry was born in Portland, OR and left shortly
after Dean was born.  

Dean would appreciate any/all information you might have regarding the name
SHIPPELHOUTE.  Please post to my account.   SJARMAN@oavax.csuchico.edu

Thanks you in advance for any information you might provide.

Shirley
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: FirstSearch
From: dkortenk@UWSPMAIL.UWSP.EDU
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:00:50 -0600
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>To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu
>From: dkortenk (Daniel Kortenkamp Psychology)
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        OCLC's WorldCat FirstSearch is available to the public for a trial
period (I don't know how long).  You must be able to telnet.  The address is:

                telnet 132.174.100.2

                Authorization number:   100077527

                Password:  fsearch

        This is the world's most comprehensive bibliography, with over 25
million records, updated daily.  It is very user friendly.  Try it!

        Unfortunately, I am too busy also with my own work and research to do
searches for individuals (it's final exam time here).  I just hope to get as
many searches of my own done before the trial period ends.

        May you all have a Joyous Winter Solstice!



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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:46:42 EST
Reply-To:     George Waller <HBLADM47@UCONNVM.BITNET>
From:         George Waller <HBLADM47@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      PAF/WP5.1 tag-along

Someone recently asked about the PAF to WP5.1 software advertised
in the latest Genealogical Helper. Well, I don't have any answer
to that, but it seems to be akin (good word, huh?) to what I am
testing now with Brother's Keeper and Word for Windows. This
is just in test mode now.

My plan (unless the NET suggests better ideas) is to first convert
the BK file to GEDCOM, then add codings to the names (such as
changing Rovello Spencer /Hull/ to Rovello Spencer /Hull**/, then
import the changed GEDCOM file back to BK, write a family history to disk,
then use Word for Windows to "jazz up" the typography.

I can use W4W macros to find the ** characters, change the name
to a different font (etc), also add an index entry, and delete the
"**"

Sounds good. Has anyone done anything like this and have advice?

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From: Deb.Koplen@f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Deb Koplen)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: TEST
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:13:24 GMT

This is a test.  This message entered 12/12 on SouthXroads at 10:15 on Board 65

 * Origin: Southern Crossroads DFW METRO 817-481-8984 (1:124/4115)
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:18:08 EST
Reply-To:     Paul Lowry <PLOWRY@NERVM.BITNET>
From:         Paul Lowry <PLOWRY@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      S&H Green Stamps

My Great Grandfather, Ralph Mills from Ohio, was a salesperson for S&H Green
Stamps.  My understanding is that he still may hold some sales records.  I
know that he also lived in Texas and Florida, and that he was selling during
the first half of this century.

My mother's parents died when she was three, so we have not kept up with any of
the Mills relatives that have this information.  I'm hoping that someone that
gets this list works for S&H or has access to their publications, because there
is supposed to be an article in a company publication that refers to his sales
records.

Of course I would not turn down any other information about my great grandfathe
r.  He was born in Warrington OH (Spelling?) and married Suzy Ward from Austin
TX.      Thanks, Paul
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:17:10 EST
Reply-To:     Dick and Jill Miller <dmiller@IM.LCS.MIT.EDU>
From:         Dick and Jill Miller <dmiller@IM.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Systems compleatness
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) posted a very good list of
various genealogically-useful records.

I would like to add to his list the following sources:

1. Family bible records. These records can be very useful when the records
were written at the time of the event altho the first items in a bible are
usually of the parents and possibly grandparents of the recorder and thus
are suspect.

2. Personal letters to other family members mentioning events.

3. Legal records as wills and probate records which can be
used to establish relationships.

Great list Denis!

--Jill

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