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From: tazumar@bcsaic.boeing.com (Ronald Tazuma)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Crutches--yes or no?
Keywords: injury treatment
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:34:21 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

I agree totally with Bob about the AIRCAST.  I have ruptured ligaments
and should have restabilization surgery to fix them but since I don't
want to go under the knife at this time, I always wear the Aircast when
playing basketball or volleyball.  They do prevent a small twist from turning
into a major "CRUNCH"  :-(O)   
 
They should work great for your rehab period ~3-6 months after a sprain.
One thing, they don't work real well with the HI-Top shoes.  The 3/4 cut
shoes seems to be more comfortable when playing with the Aircast.

-ron 
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From: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Subject: To Dan Hanan: jumping abilities
Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:03:34 GMT

Dan,
	I think many people are curious about the physical abilities of
international level volleyball players. I've seen you guys play on tours
and I even got to go to the Olympics, and it's obvious that you guys are
all physical monsters. Can you contribute some numbers to amaze
everyone?
	For example, the numbers on me look like: height: 6'3", weight: 160
(all muscle!), standing reach: 8', highest touch: 10'7", summary: loser.
	I also happen to know the numbers for Karch Kiraly: height: 6'2or3",
weight: 195, standing reach: 8'1", highest touch: 11'6", summary: best
volleyball player in the world (semi-retired).
	I'm especially interested in learning the highest reach for you,
other current and former USA national players, and the famous international
players like Marcelo Negrao, Giovane Gavio, Joel Despaigne, Rod Zwerver,
Oleg Shatunov, Dmitry Fomin, Yuichi Nakagaichi, Andrea Gardini, Andrea
Giani, and Andrea Zorzi.
	Thanks for taking the time for read the volleyball newsgroup - we
all think it's really cool!

					Greg Martin
					g-martin1@uiuc.edu
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From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Subject: Re: UCLA 3 Illinois 0
Originator: dslg0849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 07:44:10 GMT

MULLEN@scorpion.ag.uiuc.edu (Evil Twin) writes:

> In <Bu214L.A3q@news.cso.uiuc.edu> d-lewart@uiuc.edu writes:

> > In NCAA Women's Volleyball, UCLA beat Illinois 15-8, 15-11, 15-8.

> And do you feel bitter about this, Dan?  Tell us how you really feel.  I mean,
> don't bottle up those emotions, let if flow.  I can tell by your abrupt prose
> that there's more that you *want* to tell us.

No, Evil Twin, I don't.  Actually I feel optimistic.  I didn't want to
say this at first but I will.  I think the Illini are clearly a Final Four
team and they should crush Hawaii 3-0.

Ah!  That felt good to get off my chest.  Thank you, Evil Twin!

Daniel Lewart
d-lewart@uiuc.edu
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From: tom@lightning.cadcam.iupui.edu (Thomas Boehm)
Subject: Volleyball stats program for MAC
Reply-To: tom@lightning.cadcam.iupui.edu
Organization: School of Engr and Tech, Purdue Univ at Indpls
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:37:55 GMT

I have kind of an unusual request:

 I was asked by a Volleyball coach in Austria to help him look 
for a Volleyball statistics program for match analysis. He 
says he can find programs for the PC, but he has a MAC II.

 He is not necessarily looking for free/share ware, so he
would be willing to pay for it. Are there any of you college
coaches and/or assistants who use match analysis programs?

 Thanks for the help.

                        Thomas
From: alee@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: jump-o-meter
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:31:44 PST
Distribution: world

skato@leland.stanford.edu (Saul Kato) writes:
 Anyway, if anyone has any comments or suggestions, they would be well
> appreciated.  Thanks a bunch.
> 
> 		-Saul Kato			email: skato@leland.stanford.edu
> 		 Physics			real mail: Saul Kato
> 		 Stanford University		 	   P.O.Box 14852
> 							   Stanford,CA. 94309
> 
Saul,
     This sounds like a very interesting product. Would this device just work
for standing vertical and/or broad jumping vertical ( hitting a 10)?
Could you give out some more info without compromising your idea/patent?
Thanks,
       alex lee
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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: AVP Volleyball
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:10:49 GMT

In article 28834@wuecl.wustl.edu, vkv1@cec1.wustl.edu (Van K. Vo) writes:
>|If your Spalding starts egging, the best thing to solve that is to return
>|it immediately.  The ball does NOT egg because people play with it too
>|flat.  People pump it up to hard to minimize the egging effect.  I would
>|return it to them with a nasty little letter about still shipping egg
>|shaped balls and get them to send you another, improved one.  They'll do
>|it for you.  A friend of mine sent his back and got it replaced.
>|
>|I still wonder why people insist on playing with eggy Spaldings when there
>|are other balls out there that are constructed better.  In fact, why is it
>|that only Spalding Top-Flites (not even Spalding Sunnys) egg?  I have never
>|seen any other ball egg shaped.  The Tachikara Beach Head and Mikasa Pro
>|Beach are very round.  Why can't Spalding give us a good ball?  What a rip
>|off.
>|
>|Note:  the Mikasa Pro Beach is the ball of the Four Man/Woman Pro Beach Tour.
>|Don't be fooled by the AVP designation.  They pay the AVP a TON of money
>|to put the letters on the ball, not necessarily because the AVP prefers
>|them.
>|
>|Be an informed consumer,
>|Van Vo
>|


Van,

I have played with most of the balls you mentioned.  The Top flite or the AVP are still my preferred balls, mainly because they are better balls!

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From: robin@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Robin Amano)
Subject: Re: Womens' vertical
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:01:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.154512.19436@ee.gatech.edu> wung@eecom.gatech.edu writes:
>In article pjrpmv8@fido.asd.sgi.com, margi@indigo.mti.sgi.com (Margie Levine) writes:
>>|Anyone know what kind of vertical a woman can expect to get as
>>|compared to a guy?  I'm about 5'3" - what would be a good
>>|vertical to target for?  
>>|
>>| - Margie
>>|

Isn't there a 5'6" woman with a 40" vertical on the Cuban
Olympic team?


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rob
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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: World League Anybody?
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:06:26 GMT

In article 13289@ast.saic.com, dan@quebec (Dan Hanan x6326) writes:
>|Bottom line:  You've got to stay tuned, because things are always changing.
>|I just heard a lot of this from Sammy (Samuelson) 10 mins ago on the phone.
>|
>|That's about it for now....
>|Fell free to post more questions....happy to udate you all.
>|Interest in the National Volleyball program is important.
>|
>|
>|-Dan Hanan
>|-------------------
>|dan@quebec.saic.com
>|-------------------

Dan,
thanks for keeping us up on the team.  What happened to Jeff Stork?  What are the plans for the next year in terms of tours etc.?  There was talk of starting a pro league here in the US during the Olympics, is that still being explored?

Thanks,

Pete Wung 

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From: dld@cs.monash.edu.au (David L Dowe)
Subject: Will Angela turn up to Monday's v'ball?
Summary: We're all wondering whether Angela will appear on Monday
Keywords: Will she?
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:13:06 GMT

   Will Angela turn up to Monday's volleyball?  Well, it's hard to be sure
yet, but I hope so; and I think perhaps we all do.
   If anyone knows, please direct responses to rec.sport.volleyball .

Thanx.   - Rohan.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: gosika@vitalink.com (Greg Osika)
Subject: Re: Outdoor net
Reply-To: gosika@vitalink.com (Greg Osika)
Organization: Vitalink Communications
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:05:34 GMT



You can't get much for $100. You may have to step up and pay
$200...



gosika@vitalink.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: AVP Volleyball
From: harvey@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Harvey Chen)
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:54:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Irvine


I just bought a new AVP Top-Flite 18 Volleyball and was wondering what
are good steps in taking care of it.  Specifically, how do you keep the
ball from 'egging'?  It already has a very slight egginess.  Thanks in
advance!

Harvey
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From: inpd@mel.dbce.csiro.au (Ian Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Shoulder Injury Doctors don't have a clue about
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:11:44 GMT
Organization: CSIRO, Div. Building Constr. and Eng'ing, Melb., Australia

Hi,

I was recently playing a game of volleyball where I was playing as a setter. 
We were playing Universal setter and the opposition front court were not blocking me at all when I was legimately on the front court so I faked to jump set and turned and smashed the ball.

When I rotated in the air and smashed the ball I felt my left shoulder (my
hitting shoulder) go in and then out (it was not dislocated though) and felt
some immeadiate pain.

I continued to play the set out (about 5 minutes) and then went home and
applied some ice to it for a few minutes.

I stayed of it for a week not using it at all and after a week it seemed fine
again, until I tried to use it again and heard a large snap sound and
immeadiately felt pain again.

I went to the Doctors who did an ultra sound on it (to find any tears) and
X-rays but they could not find anything wrong with it all.

The symptoms are:

some discomfort and pain when the arm is lifted past the vertical.

Occassionaly sharp pains down from the shoulder to the elbow

The arm can move freely in all directions but it really hurts when I move it in
a fast spiking motion (I can hear a snapping, popping sound).


The Doctors do not know what is wrong but they know this Physio that will
charge me $100 an hour to fix this problem they do not know about.  :-)

So my questions are:

Has anybody out there had a similar injury.  If so how did you overcome it, 
how long did it take, and what warm up exercises do you do to prevent it from
happening again.

Is it worth seeing a physio even though the doctors are not sure what muscle is
strained, torn (they suspected the rotar cuff but the tests showed nothing).

  Regards,

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From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: Spiking
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:33:47 GMT

   When I waffle, it is usually because:

   1) I get under the ball.
   2) I swing by my head... Like throwing a football. 
   3) No snap.


                                            - Drummer -



   Put that in a toaster!



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From: aec@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (arthur.e.cooper)
Subject: Re: How do most women get into VB?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:39:06 GMT



>> lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam) writes:

>My niece has expressed an interest in VB and asked me to get her into
>the sport (as an after school activity).  The problem is she is only 11
>and most j. highs do not have VB programs.  So here are some questions I
>'d like to post:

>1.  What is a good age for girls to get into VB?
>2.  Should they reach certain height/weight before they start?
>	(She is 5'2", weight = ?? but is skinny and growing)
>3.  Are there VB instruction/classes designed specifically for teens?
>	(I think its important for her to get exposed to *PROPER* vb
>	environment so she wont pick up any bad habits, forms, etc)

>Thanks a bunch

>-dan
>| lam@popeye.comm.mot.com  __o     |                                        |
>| danl@comm.mot.com      _`\<,_    |
>| Chicago, Il           (*)/ (*)   |
>> 
 and g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>> Dan,
>> 	You certainly live in a good city for someone who wants to starts
>> playing volleyball. The "correct" way to go about it is to get your niece
>> involved with one of the many juniors clubs in Chicago. There are leagues
>> for 12 and under, so 11 is not too young. These clubs have professional
>> coaches and many teams with different skill levels and age groups to
>> accommodate players from 10-11 up to 18. Most collegiate players come from
>> juniors clubs - for example, UIUC recruits heavily from the Sports Performance
>> Research Institute (SPRI) club in Chicago. Contact the Great Lakes
>> USVBA Commissioner for more information about getting in contact with
>> these clubs. Good luck!
>> 						Greg Martin
>> 						g-martin1@uiuc.edu
To Dan and Greg,
        The Sports Performance club is now located in West Chicago at The
Great Lakes Volleyball Center. Their staff is training both girls and boys
in the age groups Greg mentioned. The jr. club programs begin a few weeks 
after the schools' volleyball season has ended.
	Here is the phone number at the center: (708)-231-5222. Some
parents and daughters have driven, more than twice a week, from places such
as South Holland and Rockford, etc. for practice with this club.
	I have one daughter who graduated from SPVB played four years at
Stanford (grad. 6/92), played in the Pan Am Games (Havana, Cuba) and World 
University Games (Sheffield, England) and is now playing professional VB 
in France. My younger daughter is in her third year with Sports Performanece. 
Needless to say, I recommend it very highly.
Good luck to your niece.
-- 


    Art Cooper    AT&T Bell Laboratories    att!ihlpk!wd9aet   708-979-3049
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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: question on terms
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:08:13 GMT

In article 26871@csl.sri.com, dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan) writes:
>|What is a line? What is a angel?
>|
>|Thanks.
>|
>|Derek


Line is down the sideline, i.e. if the hitter is attacking from the outside position, 
and he hits the ball to go parallel to the sideline.  Angle is the opposite of line.

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From: r-hansens@uiuc.edu (Roger Hansens)
Subject: Hawaii Invitational
Followup-To: rec.sport.volleyball
Organization: University of Illinois
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:43:06 GMT

If anyone out there has video tapes of any of the Illinois' three matches I
would be interested in getting them. Send e-mail if you have anything.

Thanks,
Roger
r-hansens@uiuc.edu
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Subject: Accrington Stanley (was Re: Results Wanted)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:40:25 +0000







In message <1992Sep9.095504.28043@alf.uib.no> s009@brems.ii.uib.no
(Arne Rivenes) asks:

>Does anyone have the results from the preliminary rounds in the FA-cup?
>I also wonder if anyone knows in wich division Accrington (Stanley?) plays.
>I assume that the club started over in a non-league division after their bankru
p
t.
>If someone have any ideas, please let me know. And postthe results for this sea
s
on
if you got them.

A new Accrington Stanley club was set up in 1968. Peel Park the home of the old
club was no longer available so they play at Crown Park (capacity 2500). They
are currently in the HFS Loans (Northern Premier) League Premier Division, one
league below the GM Vauxhall Conference, and finished 8th last season having
been promoted the season before. Recent results:

5th Sep: Accrington S. 2 Leek Town      0
7th Sep: Hyde          2 Accrington S.  6 !!

Monday night's result is especially interesting because the two teams meet
again at Hyde this Saturday in the FA Cup 1st Qualifying Round (neither
team had to play in the Preliminary Qualifying Round).

Stanley are currently mid-table, P6 W3 D1 L2 F12 A8 Pts10

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From: sispas@lsil.com (Steve Ispas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: standings after 3 rounds Romania
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:46:04 GMT
Reply-To: sispas@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

Here are the standings after 3 rounds of the Romanian championsip:

1.  Dinamo Bucuresti        3   2  1  0    9-1   5p
2.  Steaua Bucuresti        3   2  1  0    8-3   5p
3.  Gloria Bistrita         3   2  1  0    7-2   5p
4.  Rapid Bucuresti         3   2  1  0    4-1   5p
5.  Electroputere Craiova   3   2  0  1    4-2   4p
6.  Politehnica Timisoara   3   2  0  1    5-7   4p
7.  Universitatea Craiova   3   1  1  1    5-2   3p
8-9.Farul Constanta         3   1  1  1    6-5   3p
    FC Ploiesti             3   1  1  1    6-5   3p
10. Sportul Studentesc      3   1  1  1    3-3   3p
11. Progresul Bucuresti     3   1  1  1    4-5   3p
12. CSM Resita              3   1  1  1    4-6   3p
13. FC Brasov               3   1  0  2    2-3   2p
14. Universitatea Cluj      3   1  0  2    1-4   2p
15. Inter Sibiu             3   1  0  2    3-7   2p
16. Dacia Unirea Braila     3   0  1  2    1-3   1p
17. Otelul Galati           3   0  1  2    1-8   1p
18. FC Bacau                3   0  0  3    1-7   0p

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From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English Premier League results (plus a few from 1st Division)
Keywords: Saturday 5th Sept
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:19:41 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1992Sep5.163607.16375@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras) writes:
|
|SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 0  MAN CITY 3
|Derek Whyte scores two of City's three goals as they gub Wednesday at
|Hillsborough.
|

Another dodgy interpretation of the new Keeper Rule here to start this
collapse ............just what we didn't want when moral is low at the
moment! Don't ask me what has happened to our fine team of last year -
but Hirst's injury seems to have meant everyone else has stopped
playing.

Anyway, the situation leading up to the freekick which David (not Derek)
White scored City's first from was:

Shot comes in - keeper makes save pushing ball out - ball returns to
keeper from a defender rushing back in a group of defenders/attackers -
keeper dives forward to collect the ball as attackers close in.

So, the ref had to decide whether this was an intentional backpass or
not. Did the ball just hit the defender as he rushed back? Did the
defender really have enough time to play it back intnetionally?
Unfortunately the ref decided he did, despite the incident happening
very quickly, and I doubt whtehr he had a particularly good view either.
Surely the ref should give the benefit of the doubt to the defending
team - or don't refs have such thoughts? Anyway, surfice to say it was
the last thing Shef Wed wanted with the current state of things, coming
quite close to half time aswell,and they just got worse from then on 
apparently. 

A few weeks ago I  said our most indespensable players were Hirst and
Palmer. Well, Hirst is injured and Palmer just looks knackered
(certainly not the player of last year) - probably from running around
looking for the ball in an England shirt over the summer. Also, King is
still out, though we have more than adequate cover in Worthington
(although those two do work particularly well at times down the left
flank) and Sheridan has yet to return this season.  I think it's
time Trevor Francis showed us what he is made of as a manager!
(apparently Kingsley Black could be on his way from Forest - probably with
Jemson going the other way........I hope so anyway!)

Oh well........up the Owls (at least Shef Utd are below us, and Forest
who we play on Sat are doing even worse!)

gordon
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From: james@brock.b17b.ingr.com (James Brock)
Subject: Wynalda scores again
Keywords: Against my Roten Teufel
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:57:01 GMT

Looks like Eric Wynalda is earning his keep in the 
Bundesliga. He scored both goals in Saarb'ken's 2-0
win over Kaiserslautern. (I never thought I would see
the time that an American player scores against K'Lautern.)

If anyone could describe the goals, that would be great.

Thomas Hofmeister, thanks for the good service.

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