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From: bmoss@ejv.com (Brian Moss)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: places to stay and see in AZ, Grand Canyon
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:58:12 GMT

I will be traveling to Pheniox Arizona between the dates of November 6th through the 15th.  I was wondering if anyone on the net could help me out with moderately priced places to stay in and around the Grand Canyon area.  

Additionlly, since i have never been to Arizona, i would like to hear about other peoples experiences and impressions, and what they thought would be fun things to do while there.  I was thinking about taking a goat ride down to the Canyon floor and camp out in the basin for a night or too.  Or perhaps taking a hot air balloon ride...something adventerous.

I don't want to go there and do just tourist things and i am not afraid of roughing it!!!

Is it too late in the year at this time to take a ride down the River?

Also were are the best views of the Canyon?

Are there any special events happening at this time?

	Thank you in advance for your time and effort.  

		I promise that I will send you a postcard if you respond to my 
		request if you include your mailing address.

		Sincerely,
		Brian Moss at "bmoss@ejv.com" or (212) 581-8618 call collect if
		if you really have good information!!!! 				
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: va@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (vasile.aghinii)
Subject: lodging in the Laurentians needed ...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:38:53 GMT

for a family vacation, for Christmas. Any sugestions, please ?

bill aghinii
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kells@iis.ethz.ch (Kevin Kells)
Subject: details on intra-European calls using US phone companies
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:59:08 GMT

Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> [when will MCI calling cards be valid for intra-European calls? :-) ]
>AT&T cards are supposed to work but I did not try.

I called AT&T, MCI, and US-Sprint and found out that you can telephone
between European countries using all three of these US carriers. The
countries Spain and Italy were excluded (probably because their PTTs
didn't want the competition). The MCI and AT&T operators told me I couldn't
dial into or out of Spain or Italy. The Sprint operator said I just couldn't
dial out, but dialing into Spain or Italy (from Switzerland for example)
was no problem. Logic tells that the MCI and AT&T operators just didn't
have the facts straight and that all three carriers allow dialing into
Spain and Italy (how is the Spanish or Italian PTT going to know where
I'm calling from and why would they care?) but not out of these countries.

Here are the rates for dialing between different European countries. They
are the same for all countries covered (the Swiss PTT data is for the most
common tariff using an exchange rate of $1 = Sfr 1.30).

                        MCI     AT&T    US-Sprint       Swiss PTT
First minute:           $3.09   $6.97   $3.08           $0.92
Each add'l. minute:     $2.28   $2.30   $2.28           $0.92

I guess I'll be sticking with the Swiss PTT for now... 

Kevin

--
Kevin Kells <kells@iis.ethz.ch>         telephone: +41-1-256-5746
Integrated Systems Laboratory, ETH-Zentrum, CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: us air strike Q
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:55:21 GMT
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>	We are to leave this SUN. What happens when an airline
>	is on strike? Obviously, I cannot in this time get cheap tickets
>	on another line- or will my tikets be honored by other companies?

Most of the major airlines (American, Delta, Northwest, Continenta,
United) say they will honor USAir tickets.  In most cases, they'll
even give you a reservation if you ask and they have the seats.  Call
them for details.  USAir Express, their commuter affiliate, and the
USAir Shuttle are not on strike, by the way.

I'm a little surprised that the other lines are accepting US tickets so
enthusiastically.  I guess everyone hates the Machinists' union.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Portugal
Date: 14 Oct 1992 06:57:36 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Portugal
============================================================
Portugal - Consular Information Sheet
 October 7, 1992


Embassy and Consulate Locations: The U.S. Embassy in Portugal is 
located on Avenida das Forcas Armadas in Lisbon; telephone (351) (1) 
726-6600, 726-6659, 726-8670, or 726-8880.  A consulate is located 
in the Azores, at Ponta Delgada on the island of San Miguel, on 
Avenida D. Henrique, telephone (351) (96) 22216/7/8/9.

Country Description:  Portugal is a moderately developed and stable 
democracy.  Tourist facilities are widely available.

Entry Requirements:  A visa is not required for tourist stays up to 
sixty days.  For further information concerning entry requirements 
for Portugal, travelers can contact the Embassy of Portugal at 2125 
Kalorama Road N.W., Washington, DC 20008, tel: (202) 328-8610, or 
the nearest Portuguese consulate.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities are available.  Doctors and 
hospitals often expect immediate cash payment for health services.  
U.S. medical insurance is not always valid outside the United 
States.  Travelers have found that in some cases, supplemental 
medical insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be 
useful.  Information on specific health matters is available through 
the Centers for Disease Control's international travelers hotline on 
(404) 332-4559.  

Crime Information:  Portugal has a low but increasing rate of 
violent crime.  travelers, especially those who appear to be 
affluent, may become targets of pickpockets and purse snatchers.  
Auto break-ins and car thefts are common.  U.S. citizens can refer 
to the Department of State's pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad" for ways 
to promote a more trouble-free voyage.  The pamphlet is available 
from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing 
Office, Washington DC 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, and dealing in 
illegal drugs are high.  Convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and heavy fines.

Registration:  Americans who register in the Consular Section of 
the Embassy or Consulate can obtain updated information on travel 
and security within the area.

 No. 92-041
From: 6500rick@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Richard J. Bessey)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay Advice?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:51:33 GMT
Distribution: usa


Wow!  Someone is actually going to Florida and seeing Tampa Bay!
One of the most interesting places to go to is the Salvador
Dali museum in St. Petersburg.  Whether you like or
dislike art, or Salvador Dali in particular, this is a must
see.  It is wonderfully set up - no roaming through endless hallways -
in fact, it is only one big room.

For something nice to do in the evenings, take a walk on the beach.
One thing we used to do often, and still do when I go home, is
go to the Don Cesar hotel - an incredibly ritzy place - and just walk
around.  Then walk outside and walk on the beach or relax by the pool.
As long as you don't make yourself to conspicuous, they won't say
anything.

Please e-mail or post for more info. 

Rick
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Traveling to Europe and need some pointers
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:35:23

Rob Stokes writes:
[long list of questions deleted for the present]

Rob, it would help us help you if you'd give us some idea what area
of Europe you are interested in, and what sort of things you'd like to
do while there.  Take your first question:

>1) How should I travel?
>After I get to Europe, should I rent a car the entire time I'm there?
>Should I plan to take a train to each destination and then rent a car
or
>make it on foot?  Should I hitch-hike and rent a car on a as needed basis?

Up here in Scandinavia, for instance, renting a car is so expensive
that i'd advise you to avoid it!  In general, if you just want to 
see cities or tourist resorts, you will have few problems taking
public transport all the time.  But if you want to get off the beaten 
track, you may find it more convenient to have a car...

>3) Will it be too cold?

This one at least i can answer:  Europe is much warmer than North
America at the same latitude.  It'll be colder than Texas, of course.
But few places will match New York City's famous howling winds,
either.

>4) What countries should I visit?
>I would like to visit Italy, France and Greece at least.  Are there
any
>better suggestions based on my nature (listed in the other questions here)?

This is the one that's a problem.  You haven't said much about what 
you like to do (except skiing), only what you don't like to do.
Best bet would probably be to borrow some books from the travel
section of your library, and nose around until you find something that
looks interesting.  Then you've got a start...

>5) What language barriers will I encounter?
>I am deathly scared of not being able to communicate with other
people.
>The only language I had in college was German and I "D"ed that with a
lot
>of work.  What books should I purchase and what should I study before
the
>trip?

If you stick to touristy areas, you will have no problem if you're
patient and speak clearly. However, having said that, it's always
polite to at least TRY to learn a few words - "hello" and "good-bye"
at least, and learning the numbers up to ten and a few other words
(like what the signs on the public toilets say!) will be a big help.
You'd be amazed, though, how far you can get with a skeleton
vocabulary, smiles, a lot of pointing and a lot of patience.  Mostly
patience.  

>6) What travel path do I plan? (Where to go in what order)
>At this moment, I plan to wake up in the morning, plot my course for
the
>day, and hope I make it.  Is this a horrible way to travel in Europe?

Actually, if you're flexible, and not going to a crowded area in
the high season, this is IMHO the best way to travel.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Subject: Re: Hotel in San Francisco
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:16:38 GMT


San Remo Hotel, 2237 Mason, 415-776-8688
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Tucson Arizona
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:11:09 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <1992Oct9.190101.21195@morrow.stanford.edu>, GE.PPS@forsythe.stanford.edu (ps) writes:
> Does anyone know of a way to rent a 1-2 bedroom living space in
> Tucson for 4-5 days in Tucson, AZ in February 1993?  We would also
> be happy to do a home exchange.
> Thanks, Paula
> GE.PPS@STANFORD.BITNET.

If it is the week of the Tucson Gem Show, you may have serious problems
finding a room anywhere.

Ted Feuerbach - Scientific Systems Consultant

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rcwei@IASTATE.EDU (Ruey-Chang Wei)
Subject: Going New Orleans
Reply-To: rcwei@IASTATE.EDU (Ruey-Chang Wei)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:28:04 GMT

Hi Netter,

         I am planning an one-week vacation in New Orleans for the coming
Thanksgiving break. I would like to receive ideas or suggestions of what 
to do, where to stay and eat, and etc. I heard there are some small but 
neat hotels in French quarter (?), are they any good ? Are they 
expensive ? Since I am just a graduate student, I don't wanna spend all 
my fortune (if there is any) on this, so please make it "reasonable". 
Any response is appreciated, thank you in advance !!


Vincent
From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Avis rental car
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:23:25 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Oct15.202755.12866@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
pkuo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paohua Kuo) writes:
> I almost had to pay more than the quoted rate with Avis.  I wonder if I
> was just unlucky - or if others had the same experience?
>
> ..........
>
> I asked if this is a common practice with Avis - trying to 
> rip off their customers who don't check their receipts/contracts.  

I thought Avis only pulled that stuff in Europe.
From: scottb@ppc-a.isc-br.com (SCOTT BURRINGTON)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Mexico - Hotel/Condo Good Deals???
Keywords: Mexico, Lodgings
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:47:49 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo Corporation, Spokane, WA.

Lately I've heard that you can get some great rates at hotels
and condos in Mexico if you fly into town, rent a car (or take
a taxi), and go from condo to condo until you find an empty one
which will give you greatly discounted rates.

It would take a certain amount of courage for me to fly to a
Mexican vacation spot without room reservations, so I thought I
would see if anyone has had any experiance with doing this.

Has anyone tried this???

-Scott
From: MDELANEY@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU (Michael Delaney, Director, Study Abroad Programs, 303-492-7741, USA)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: (none)
Date: 14 Oct 1992 15:52:32 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

ftp.stolaf.edu:pub/travel-advisories/advisories/moldova
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Skiing at Tahoe in December?
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:07:09 GMT
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory

|> I'm thinking of planning a quick ski vacation at Tahoe around Christmas and am  
|> wondering if there's a good history of snow at this time of year.  Coming from  
|> New England, I'm accustomed to NOT planning ski trips over Christmas due to  
|> weather uncertainty.  I've asked a few travel agents, and none of them seem to  
|> know.

Historically, the Tahoe skiing season has started in late November.  In
several of the past few years, there wasn't enough snow to open that
early.  Many of the resorts now have snow making machines, however, so
even in a bad year, the biggest resorts should be open for the
Thanksgiving weekend.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: axlaw@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: Rockville, MD / DC area ?'s
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:03:36 GMT

I will be in Rockville, MD  (suburb of D.C) for some training in November.
Can anyone recommend some sights to see, resturants.. the usual stuff a
stranger would need in a city.  What would be the best method to get to
the Smithsonian from Rockville?  (I won't have a car)  a tour?  subway?
Is the subway safe for a female traveling alone?   

Any comments?  

Loretta
axlaw@alaska
axlaw@acad2.alaska.edu
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 11 Oct 1992 12:02:10 MST
From: <CXKZE@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Need Travel Tips to BELIZE

If anyone has travelled to belize or knows someone who has, I would greatly

appreciate information or a source for information on Caye Caulker, the

area around San Ignacio, or any general travelling tips for Belize.  Also,

if anyone knows a good person who wouldn't mind talking to me about Belize,


please let me know.
From: landriau@Software.Mitel.COM (Marc Landriault)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Huntsville Alabama
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:39:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


I will be going away for several weeks (work related)
to Huntsville Alabama.
Can someone suggest to me activities, hotels and 
restaurants that are recommended in the surrounding 
area.

Thanks in advance,
/Marc Landriault.
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Denmark
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:15:26 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Denmark
============================================================
Denmark - Consular Information Sheet 
 October 7, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy in Copenhagen is located at Dag 
Hammarskjolds Alle 24; telephone (45) (31) 42-31-44.

Country Description:  Denmark is a highly developed stable 
democracy with a modern economy.  Tourist facilities are extensive, 
and English is widely spoken.

Entry Requirements:  A tourist or business visa is not required for 
stays up to three months (the 90-day period begins when entering 
Scandinavian area:  Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Iceland).  For 
further information concerning entry requirements for Denmark, 
travelers can contact the Royal Danish Embassy at 3200 Whitehaven 
Street NW, Washington, DC 20008, tel (202) 234-4300, or the nearest 
Danish Consulate General in Chicago, Los Angeles, or New York.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities are widely available.  U.S. 
medical insurance is not always valid outside the United States.  
Travelers have found that in some cases, supplemental medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  
Further information on health matters can be obtained from the 
Centers for Disease Control's international Travelers hotline on 
(404) 332-4559.

Crime Information:  While Denmark has a low crime rate, travelers 
to Copenhagen and other major cities can become targets for 
pickpockets and sophisticated purse snatchers.  Purses and luggage 
are particular targets for thieves in hotel lobbies, airports, and 
train stations.  U.S. citizens can refer to the Department of 
State's pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad" for ways to promote a more 
trouble-free voyage.  The pamphlet is available from the 
Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, 
Washington DC 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, and dealing in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Other Information:  The nationwide police/fire/ambulance emergency 
telephone number is 112.  Cyclists have the right-of-way over 
pedestrians and automobiles in Denmark.  

Registration:  Americans who register in the Consular Section of 
the U.S. Embassy may obtain updated information on travel and 
security within the area.

 No. 92-015
From: mcoulter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Alias)
Subject: San Diego/TJ airports
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 08:47:20 GMT

Need info:  I am arriving at San Diego and need to get to TJ to get a plane.
I am giving myself )63 hours and 10 minutes.

My plane arrives in San Diego at 2:31 pm.
It leave TJ airport at 5:40.

Can this be done?

Do I need to grab a cab and pay premium bucks or can I take public
transit?
how much time for both?

thanks

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Hotels in San Antonio
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:17:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.023354.28983@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm) writes:
>Can anyone tell me about nice hotels in S.A.?  Luxorious or full of character,
>expensive or not, along the river or away from the center, ....
>No preconceived ideas....    Thanks.  Carl.

The most important feature of a San Antonio hotel is air conditioning.

Okay, I'm kidding, but not by much.  You want humidity?  Go to San Antonio.
I stayed at the Crockett Hotel (actually the Best Western Crockett Hotel),
which is right across the street from the Alamo and half a block from
the Rivercenter.  It's a pleasant enough place.  The real charm of downtown
San Antonio (IMHO) is the Riverwalk.

Charleen

--
Minnesota:  Many are cold, but few are frozen.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: chris@fnbc.com (Chris Toczycki)
Subject: FOR SALE: Paris foldout map,  Fiji guide
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:49:46 GMT


A current map of Paris with a street guide published by Michelin  $5.00  
includes shipping.  I'll throw in a separate AT&T map on "Walks through Paris".

Fiji - a travel survival kit by Rob Kay - 1986, $5.00 includes shipping.

chris@fnbc.com
From: botliend@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: WANTED:TWA INTERNATIONAL DISCOUNT COUPON
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:34:28 GMT
Organization: New York University

Does anyone out there have any TWA discount coupons that they would be
willing to part with? Specifically for international travel? I received
a bunch last November, but they have since expired.
Please respond by e-mail to botliend@acfcluster.nyu.edu.

Thanks in advance

Debby Butlien
NYU
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: y
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:16:00 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Czechoslovakia
============================================================
Czechoslovakia - Consular Information Sheet
 October 7, 1992

Embassy and Consulate Locations:  The U.S. Embassy in Prague is 
located at Trziste 15; telephone (42) (2) 536-641 or, after hours, 
(42) (2) 536-646.  The U.S. Consulate General in Bratislava is 
located at Hviezdoslavovo Namesite 4; telephone (42) (7) 330-861.

Country Description: Czechoslovakia is a moderately developed 
European nation undergoing profound economic and political changes.  
Tourist facilities are not as developed as those found in western 
Europe, and many of the goods and services taken for granted in 
other European countries are not yet available.

Entry Requirements:  A visa is not required for stays up to 30 
days.  For further information concerning entry requirements for 
Czechoslovakia, travelers can contact the Embassy of the Czech and 
Slovak Federal Republic at 3900 Linnean Avenue N.W., Washington, DC 
20008, tel (202) 363-6315.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilties are available.  Some 
facilities, particularly in remote areas, may be limited.  Doctors 
and hospitals often expect cash payment for health services.  U.S. 
medical insurance is not always valid outside the United States.  
Travelers have found that in some cases, supplemental medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  
Further information on health matters can be obtained from the 
Centers for Disease Control's international Travelers hotline on 
(404) 332-4559.

Crime Information: Czechoslovakia has a low rate of violent crime.  
However, there has been an increase in street crime (pickpocketing, 
for example), especially at night near major tourist sites.  The 
Department of State's pamphlet "A Safe Trip Abroad" is available 
from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing 
Office, Washington, DC 20402.  It provides useful information on 
guarding valuables and protecting personal security while traveling 
abroad.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, and dealing in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration: Americans who register in the Consular Section of the 
Embassy or the Consulate can obtain updated information on travel 
and security in the country.

 No. 92-014

Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.british
From: rkimm@ameris.ameritech.com (Robert L. Kimmel)
Subject: Re: y
Organization: Ameritech, Hoffman Estates, IL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:36:55 GMT

hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:

>	Um, why then do Americans need to be told that the UK is a
>EUROPEAN country?

I have met UKers who insist that the UK is not part of Europe.

BK