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From: lynbech@daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: Re: auctex-6.1 and lemacs-19.3
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:32:39 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

rossini@hsph.harvard.edu (Anthony Rossini) writes:


>Thanks for all comments about the combination.  It looks like everything
>will work (and works fairly well!) unless one tries to specify the file mode
>within the .tex file via a first line such as:

>; -*- LaTeX -*-

>or 

>; -*- mode:latex -*-

>(or any other sensible capitalization scheme of the above 2).  In this case,
>while the TeX-buffer command still works, the preview and print commands do
>not.  It was commented by one responder that this was caused by a call to
>hack-local-variables, and that this removed whatever the file name was
>supposed to be from the proper variable.  I checked the code, and couldn't
>figure out any workable fixes (short of removing that line from my file).
>(Caveat: I'm not an elisp hacker, just a sometimes programmer...)

[... stuff deleted ...]

AUC-TeX tries to be smart about TeX/LaTeX mode, so if your files are
obviously LaTeX files (for instance starts with \documentstyle) then
AUC-TeX should select LaTeX-mode automatically, thus removing the need
to explicitly state the mode.

The problem comes when there is no easy way to know the mode, for
instance when the file is empty! AUC-TeX has a variable called
TeX-default-mode which should then determine the mode (set to 'latex-mode).

Based on the information given, I should think that this would solve
your problems.



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Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual.

                                        - petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)
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From: danny@amil.co.il (Danny Bar-Dov)
Subject: ispell version with lucid 19.3
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:32:50 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Some users here noted that they miss some functionality they used to
have in emacs 18.55.

The diff count is 1120 lines so I went to look for defuns.
Here are the defuns in the ispell.el coming with lucid 19.3:

(defun highlight-spelling-error (start end &optional highlight dont-modify)
(defun highlight-spelling-error-v19 (start end &optional highlight dont-modify)
(defun highlight-spelling-error-v19-Lucid (start end &optional highlight
(defun ispell-buffer () 
(defun ispell-choose (miss guess word)
(defun ispell-filter (process output)
(defun ispell-init-process ()
(defun ispell-parse-output (output)
(defun ispell-pdict-save ()
(defun ispell-region (reg-start reg-end)
(defun ispell-word (&optional preceding quietly)
(defun lookup-words (word)
(defun overlay-window (height)

Here are the defuns of the 18.55 ispell.el:

(defun ispell-buffer () 
(defun ispell-choose (choices word)
(defun ispell-complete-word ()
(defun ispell-ignore-later-occurrences (word)
(defun ispell-init-process ()
(defun ispell-parse-output (output)
(defun ispell-region (start end)
(defun ispell-word (&optional quietly)
(defun overlay-window (height)
; (defun highlight-region (p1 p2)
; (defun unhighlight-region (p1 p2)

What users here really miss is ispell-complete-word.
Does anyone know about a more complete ispell ?

--
Danny.

-------------------------------
Dan Bar Dov

Applied Materials (Israel)

Email:        danny@amil.co.il
Phone: office 972-3-499573
       home   972-3-5469625
TimeZone:     GMT+2
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Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: kenny@stare.dit.lth.se (Kenny Ranerup)
Subject: Problem with mouse when tabs in buffer.
Reply-To: kenny@dit.lth.se
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: alt
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:27:08


I have a problem when positioning the mouse in a buffer that contains
tabs.  If I click the left mouse button over the 'j' in the line below
(which contains tabs between 'hej' and 'hopp') the number of spaces
between the words suddenly shrinks. Also if I move the pointer forward
and backward over this line using cursor keys strang things happen.

	hej		hopp

I'm using Lucid Emacs version:
'GNU Emacs 19.3 Lucid of Wed Sep  9 1992 on watergate (berkeley-unix)'
on a Sparcstation IPC under X11R5 or OpenWindows 3.0 and SunOS 4.1.1.

Anyone got any idea what's going on?

  Kenny

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| Dept. of Computer Engineering      |  Email: kenny@dit.lth.se   |
| Lund University                    |                            |
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"If it ain't broke, fix it anyway, or at least improve it!"
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"If it ain't broke, fix it anyway, or at least improve it!"
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From: danny@ipc1.amil.co.il (Danny Bar-Dov)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:27:00 +0000
X-Mailer: Z-Mail (2.1b.27 9/21/92)
Subject: Re: EDT emulation, screen color and font-lock-faces?
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
On Oct 2, 11:24pm, David Knespl wrote:
> Subject: EDT emulation, screen color and font-lock-faces?
> I asked some of these questions already before, but I have no answer :(
> 
> I use lemacs-19.3, Sparc 1+, OpenWin 3, Sun keyboard type 4
> 
> 
> 3) how to set different font-lock-faces for color and black&white screen if I use the same
>      .emacs file on the two different machines (I have the same $HOME)
Take this as an example:

 (if (x-color-display-p)
	(load "~/emacs/lhilit.color")
		  (load "~/emacs/lhilit.mono"))

> 4) how to set different Xdefaults for color and black&white screen if I use the same app-defaults/Emacs
>      on the the two different machines 
If you're using X11R5 then the resource manager supports #ifdef etc.
and there are predefined macros for color/gray/mono etc. Look in the
X11R5 documentation of resource files.
If you're using X11R4 or older you have to hack some file moving
in your .login/.profile

> 
> Thanx
> David Knespl
> 
>-- End of excerpt from David Knespl


x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from help-lucid-emacs to alt.lucid-emacs.help; Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:39:57 EDT
From: danny@amil.co.il (Danny Bar-Dov)
Subject: sun keys
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 10:39:57 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Lucid renames most the sun keys to be fxx, some to rxx.
There are also some pairs of different keys with the same
key definition i.e. the key marked `Again` and 'L2' is
f12 - exactly like the key labeled 'F12'.

1. How is the sun keyboard mapped to these definitions ?

1.a where does this mapping take place (lisp code, c code, other ?)

2. Is there a way to differenciate F12 from Again and how ?

3. Examples for sun keyboard mapping anyone ?

general: sunOS 4.1.2 Lucid 19.3 sparc 1+ keyboard type ?
(it has L keys R keys & F keys)

Thanks

--
Danny.

-------------------------------
Dan Bar Dov

Applied Materials (Israel)

Email:        danny@amil.co.il
Phone: office 972-3-499573
       home   972-3-5469625
TimeZone:     GMT+2
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From: reynolds@cwi.nl (Graham Reynolds)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: Help with dired on SGI Indigo version of lemacs
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:58:42 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

Having successfully built lemacs-19.3 for my SGI Indigo (after some
stupidity on my part -- thanks to those who helped me out), I now have
another problem, this time with Dired.

Dired fails to load, with the error message (approx):
   Symbol's function definition is void: baud-rate

Since baud-rate appears to be used only a couple of times in dired I
hacked the lisp to avoid the use of baud-rate, byte-compiled the file
and tried again. Same problem :-( -- I'm no elisp expert so I might have
got that wrong.

I then tried loading the dired stuff using load-file, and that worked
ok, except ... the collapse sub-directory operation "$" doesn't work. It
reduces the subdirectory to a single (very) long line with "^M"'s
scattered along it. The expand subdirectory works fine.

Any help would be appreciated, and please accept my apologies if this is too
trivial.

-- Graham.
From: ucosmo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: Problems compiling on Sun (malloc redeclaration)
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:42:03 GMT

I'm compiling lucid emacs on a Sun Sparcstation, using gcc, and I get the
following:

-----
make  -f xmakefile  all
gcc -g     -Demacs  -I./lwlib  -c  dispnew.c
In file included from dispnew.c:72:
lisp.h:1213: conflicting types for `malloc'
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.2/2.1/include/stdlib.h:29: previous declaration of `malloc'
lisp.h:1213: conflicting types for `realloc'
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.2/2.1/include/stdlib.h:33: previous declaration of `realloc'
lisp.h:1214: conflicting types for `free'
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-sunos4.1.2/2.1/include/stdlib.h:27: previous declaration of `free'
-----

I'm not sure if this is relevant, but when the build starts, it compiles with
cc and then switches to gcc.  Can someone help me with this one?


--
     - Boris
(cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: carney@rocky.rational.com (Mike Carney)
Subject: Re: font-lock and pending-del
Organization: Rational, Santa Clara, CA
	<GRUNWALD.92Oct16172814@mumble.cs.colorado.edu>
	<9210170018.AA20539@thalidomide.lucid>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:41:58 GMT

> 
> In article <9210170018.AA20539@thalidomide.lucid> jwz@lucid.com (Jamie Zawinski) writes:
> 
>    Here's a version of font-lock without the query-replace problem.  
> 

It works great! Thanks a bunch :-)


>    Calling (zmacs-deactivate-region) is the wrong thing, try binding
>    zmacs-regions to nil instead.
> 
> 	   -- Jamie

Thanks for the info, I'll give that a try too. However,
zmacs-deactive-region didn't seem to have any strange side effects?

Thanks again.
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Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: grunwald@mumble.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald)
Subject: Mail auto-save files?
Reply-To: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:44:48



Where I go, I leave a trail of auto-save files from sending mail.
They're embarrsing me because I leave them in other peoples
directories.

I like having auto-save of mail I'm sending (mainly 'cause lucid just
dumped on me), but why should they exist when I'm done sending mail?

Has anyone else noticed this & found a fix?


Dirk Grunwald                          Asst. Prof, Univ. of Colorado at Boulder
Newsgroups: alt,alt.california,alt.activism,alt.sex
From: fescobar@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fabio Escobar)
Subject: Recall PETE WILSON
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 21:20:38 GMT

If anyone is interested in participating in a SUCCESSFUL recall campaign
against California Governor Pete Wilson, call Carl Towe at (209) 538-6743,
Ed Vazquez at (408) 452-8123 or in the Los Angeles area Fabio Escobar at
(818) 885-2477. Petitions will be available on or around October 22nd and
ca be obtained by calling Carl.  If you wish to volunteer to work a
precinct polling site on election day in the San Fernando area, call Fabio.

RECALL PETE!!!!!

Newsgroups: alt,alt.california,alt.activism,alt.sex
From: mbk@netcom.com (Miles Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Recall PETE WILSON
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:09:20 GMT

fescobar@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fabio Escobar) writes:

>If anyone is interested in participating in a SUCCESSFUL recall campaign
>against California Governor Pete Wilson, call Carl Towe at (209) 538-6743,
>Ed Vazquez at (408) 452-8123 or in the Los Angeles area Fabio Escobar at
>(818) 885-2477. Petitions will be available on or around October 22nd and
>ca be obtained by calling Carl.  If you wish to volunteer to work a
>precinct polling site on election day in the San Fernando area, call Fabio.

>RECALL PETE!!!!!

I'd be happier if you added Willie Brown to the list too!

mbk
From: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Re: Some disk degaussing questions
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:58:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Quite a few hard drives have a 'servo track' recorded on one of the
platters that helps the positioner find what track it's on.  Usually
such drives have an odd number of user-accessable surfaces - look for
a drive with 5 heads specified, for example.

Degaussing the drive often erases or damages the recorded servo track.
The drive is unusable until a new servo track can be recorded.  Not all
repair facilities have the ability to do that.

Thus by degausing a drive you may render it unrepairable, or raise the
cost of the repair.

If the drive is mostly operational, you may be able to write zeros and
other patterns all over it several times to obscure the data.

If the data on the drive must be kept private, then you may wish to
consider simply destroying the drive and buying a new one.  The cost is
the price you pay for your data security.
	- Brian
From: peter@merlin.acadiau.ca (Peter Steele)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Re: passwd replacement that works with Sun's shadow passwd file?
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:45:18 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias) writes:
>I'm looking for a passwd replacement that forces users to pick good
>passwords (like npasswd/passwd+/etc) that works with Sun's shadow
>passwd file, /etc/security/passwd.adjunct.  We're running SunOS 4.1.2
>if that makes a difference.

dank@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov replies:
We've patched npasswd to do this.
Here's our patched version.

My question is: Does it work with Sun's shadow scheme *and* NIS?
--
Peter Steele        Unix Services Manager            peter.steele@acadiau.ca 
Acadia Univ., Wolfville, NS, Canada B0P 1X0  902-542-2201  Fax: 902-542-4364
Newsgroups: alt.security
From: flagg@blind-lemon.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Cunningham)
Subject: Re: Letter Frequency
Organization: UNLV
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 21:03:00 GMT

In article <1bk6jnINNenm@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry  
Margolin) writes:
 "In article <1992Oct15.140918.27296@emr1.emr.ca> nyelle@ccrs.emr.ca (Norman  
Yelle) writes:
 ">If you have an on-line copy of the dictionnary, then you can do the
 ">following:
 ">
 ">  grep -i e /usr/dict/words | wc
 ">
 ">... to find how many words contain the letter 'e'.  You can do this for all
 ">26 letters.  This is the results I got with a dictionary of 25144 words:
 "
 "That's not a good way to determine the frequency of letters in actual text,
 "which is what you generally want for cryptanalysis, because it gives
 "equivalent weight to letters in words that are used with different
 "frequencies, and doesn't give extra weight to letters that appear multiple
 "times in a word.  Here's your list sorted by frequency:
 "
 "  (list of letters deleted)
 "
 "Notice how different it is from ETAOIN SHRDLU, the beginning of the usual
 "letter frequency list.  That's probably mostly because of the extreme
 "frequency of the word "the" in text; it drags T and H several notches
 "higher.

	True you can't use the dictionary, but this may actually get you better  
results.  Just use several examples of the type of file you are trying to  
decode.  Not only will you get a better distribution, you can also include  
punctuation.  Example would be the occurance of words like BEGIN, END, FOR,  
NEXT, IF...etc in a group of Pascal programs, or the occurance of the {,},+,-  
in C programs.  To get a better distribution on english text just run the  
preceeding test on a few large english compsitions.

--

________________________________________________________________________
Scott Cunningham \ We're the NSA                                        \
Username: flagg  \ So your the ones I hear on the other end of my phone \
                 \ No, that's the FBI                                   \
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From: jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Re: Some disk degaussing questions - A better way
Date: 13 Oct 1992 17:29:37 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <01050022.p5nuix@skyline.UUCP>, by gk@skyline.UUCP (Gary Kremen):
> 
> There is a much better way.  A company that I do work with has
> a product that is in the Defense Investigative Service (DIS)
> approval process for software degausing.  ....
>          .....  The product goes directly to the disk
> controller and "scrubs" the disk in a DOD / DIS approved
> manner.  


Sounds like this is just a matter of doing a series of "low level"
("lowest" level??) format operations, perhaps varying the block sizes
to insure the entire surface is obliterated/overwritten.  Conceptually
straightforward, if somewhat tedious.  (In which case, a commercial
product may well be useful -- saves the tedium of learning all the
"bit twiddling" details of disks/controllers.  This would seem to depend
upon what tools the system vendor supplies.)

Am I missing something subtle here?

Please note that I am not criticizing the existence or use of a
commercial "disk scrubber". (I used a similar procedure when we 
decommissioned our previous mainframe system.)  And I agree that
physical destruction of media _is_ a waste of resources (and taxpayer
$$$ :-( in the case of government/military decommissioning).

-- 
John G Dobnick                          ATTnet: (414) 229-5727
Computing Services Division             INTERNET: jgd@uwm.edu
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee     UUCP: uunet!uwm!jgd

"Knowing how things work is the basis for appreciation,
and is thus a source of civilized delight."  -- William Safire
Newsgroups: alt.security
From: pcl@oxford.ac.uk (Paul Leyland)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:42:17 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford, OX2
	6NN
Followups-to: misc.test
In-reply-to: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com's message of 7 Oct 92 23:48:28 GMT

In article <50001@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:

> 	 Please answer these 9 questions and return.


Questionaire deleted.

Here's my questionaire.  Please fill it in and send it to /dev/null

1)
	Why was a questionaire about abortion and related matters posted
	to alt.security?

	The author is a cretin [ ]
	The posting was forged to make the
	apparent author look a cretin [ ]
	Don't know [ ]
	Other [ ]

2)
	Why was the question about political affiliation, giving choices
	between Repulican and Democrat, posted to a world-wide audience?

	The author is a cretin [ ]
	The posting was forged to make the
	apparent author look a cretin [ ]
	Don't know [ ]
	Other [ ]


Paul
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Newsgroups: alt.security
From: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Wolfgang Ley)
Subject: Re: USER NAME
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU CLAUSTHAL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:57:17 GMT

In article <Ueqkqpq00iV0I48rUp@andrew.cmu.edu>
Gautam Gandhi <gg27+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
 
>Is there any way to change your user name so that it appears anynomous...
>
 
The normal user may use the passwd-command with the f option to change
his fullname. Only root is able to change the userid.
 "passwd -f anonymous"   (or yppasswd on yp-hosts)
will change your fullname entry in the passwd-file to "anonymous"
 
See also "man passwd"
 
Bye,
  Wolfgang.
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Re: Dataless system
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:20:19 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1ar51sINNfq6@early-bird.think.com>, barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
| In article <81116@ut-emx.uucp> ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd) writes:
| >  I heard this mentioned a couple of times.  What is a dataless system?
| 
| A workstation with no user files, only OS-related files; it gets all user
| files (e.g. home and project directories) from file servers.  This
| contrasts with diskless workstations, which also get OS-related files (the
| kernel, swap space, system binaries, etc.) from a file server.	

I don't normally regard any system which needs to be backed up as
dataless, just for the record. Typically I have a dataless client with
tmp and swap local for performance, and ALL filesystems remote.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    Keyboard controller has been disabled, press F1 to continue.
From: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Re: Dataless system
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:46:18 GMT
Reply-To: exudnw@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 59930007@acf3.NYU.EDU, tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor) writes:
>How about putting in a raw drive, booting it over the network and watching 
it take care of recreating the disk then reboot locally?

Why would you care about it rebooting locally?  Have it *always* boot from 
a server - that way you can check the configuration/autoconfigure each time
it boots automagically. You don't have to worry about your users doing
strange stuff to the local disks, as they don't have a full root partition.

---
= exudnw@exu.ericsson.se                                                =
= David Williams              "You can't win, you can't break even,     =
= Ericsson Network Systems     and you can't quit"                      =
= Richardson, TX 75081                                  my opinions...  =