From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: The Genocide of Muslim people in "Bosnia" and "Azerbaijan".
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:51:22 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <bill.725140547@castor> bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes:

>Hey, just fuck off 

You seem so into the idea of "f**king". Is this what turns you on?

>and go find your own group to argue this
>bullshit.  

Given your racist views, I think it's extremely enlightened of you
to be able to make this distinction. The issue at hand is the 
cold-blooded genocide of Muslim people in Bosnia and Azerbaijan.

The article below is taken from The Sunday Times, 1 March  1992, a
British Weekly, written by Thomas Goltz, from Agdam, Azerbaijan.

    ARMENIAN SOLDIERS MASSACRE HUNDREDS OF FLEEING FAMILIES.

    The spiralling  violence gripping the  outer republics of  the former
Soviet Union gained new impetus  yesterday with cold-blooded slaughter of
hundreds of women and children in war-racked Nagorno-Karabakh.
    Survivors  reported that  Armenian soldiers  shot and  bayoneted more
than 450  Azeris, many of  them women and  children, who were  fleeing an
attack  on their  town. Hundreds,  possibly thousands,  were missing  and
feared dead.
    The attackers  killed most of  the soldiers and  volunteers defending
the women  and children.  They then  turned their  guns on  the terrified
refugees. The few  survivors later described what  happened:" That's when
the real  slaughter began," said  Azer Hajiev,  one of three  soldiers to
survive. "The  Armenians just shot and  shot. And then they  came in and
started carving up people with their bayonets and knives."
    " They were shooting, shooting, shooting", echoed Rasia Aslanova, who
arrived in Agdam with other women and children who made their way through
Armenian lines. She said her husband, Kayun, and a son-in-law were killed
in front of her. Her daughter was still missing.
    One boy who arrived in Agdam had an ear sliced off.

    The survivors  said 2000  others, some of  whom had  fled separately,
were still missing in the gruelling terrain; many could perish from their
wounds or the cold.
    By late  yesterday, 479 deaths had  been registered at the  morgue in
Agdam's morgue,  and 29 bodies  had been buried  in the cemetery.  Of the
seven corpses  I saw awaiting  burial, two  were children and  three were
women, one shot through the chest at point blank range.
    Agdam hospital was  a scene of carnage and terror.  Doctors said they
had 140 patients who escaped slaughter, most with bullet injuries or deep
stab wounds.
    Nor were they safe in Agdam. On friday night rockets fell on the city
which  has a  population  of 150,000,  destroying  several buildings  and
killing one person.

>There are lots of people dying in Bosnia right
>now, which is why I'm reading the newsgroup, not to see
>you rant about shit that happened 70 years ago on every
>newsgroup you can find.

Wow. I guess my plans to install myself as "king" of "ASALA/SDPA/ARF
Terrorism Triangle" are washed up now.

Serb Learnt Rape and Murder - A Report by Richard Beeston The Times (UK)
(14/12/92)
===========================

Borislav Herak delivered his gruesome confession of murder, rape and butchery
in a clipped and awkward monotone which is as painful to watch as his story is
to hear.

He learned hand-to-hand combat using live pigs and was taught how to throw
them, hold them down and slit their throats. Later he was told to practise
on Bosnian prisoners of war and rape and kill young Bosnian women.

"I did it because I had no choice, I had to obey orders," said the captured 
Serb fighter, whose deeds and his mitigation of them are chillingly reminiscent
of the last time war crimes were committed in central Europe, half a century
ago. The account of his six months service with Serbian forces north of 
Sarajevo is expected next month to be the basis for the war crimes trial of 
the conflict in the former Yugoslavia, when he will be charged with genocide,
mass murder, rape and looting under Article 41 of the Yugoslav criminal code.

His eyewitness testimony, the first by a participant in the notorious 
"ethnic cleaning", should also offer a unique insight into how Serb forces
killed tens of thousands of Muslim and Croat Bosnians and drove hundreds 
of thounds from their homes in the past eight months of fighting.

The most disturbing episodes of Mr Heraks's activities began in June,
soon after he left his home in Sarajevo and joined the Biochanska
Serb Militia where he received his basic training. The first hint
of the sort of work expected of him emerged when he and other Bosnian
Serb volunteers were shown a demonstration of hand-to-hand combat
using pigs. Soon afterwards, in the village of Donja Bioca, he was 
ordered to repeat the exercise on Bosnian Muslims, Mr Herak, 21, 
said in an interview at Sarajevo's Victor Bubanj military prison.

He killed three prisoners with a 6in hunting blade, an episode he
recounted in a detached, almost dispassionate fasion: "They did not
resist, but one of them told me he had a wife and two children. His
name was Ahmed Ziad Osman." Mr Herak volunteered the information 
readily and insisted that he had not been coerced or mistreated during 
his captivity. Professor Aida Hasimbegovic, a clinical psychologist, 
said he displayed no severe psycological problems that would make him 
unfit to stand trial.

That impression was confirmed when he described in a clear manner the grim
saga of how his unit took part in the "cleansing" of the Muslim village
of Ahatovic, north of Sarajevo, last summer. This time he used a Kalash-
nikov rifle to shoot 20 civilians and the joined other Serbs in looting
homes.

"The order was that nobody should stay alive, we should kill everybody,"
he said, adding that the instructions had come down the Serbian chain
of command from the area commander in the town of Ilijas. "We did not 
have any choice. He told us what had to be done, and we did it."

In probably the most gruesome episode, he said that Serb fighters
were encouraged to rape young Bosnians at a prison turned military
brothel where inmates were killed to make way for newcomers.

"They told us for the sake of Serbian morale that we should go to
the prison at the Sonja Motel in Vogosca where there were 80 to 90
girls", he said, speaking through an interpreter. "I went about 10
times in all, maybe two or three times a week. I was told by Miro
Vukovic, [the Serbian Commander of the brothel] to take the girls 
away and kill them because there was no room to keep them or enough
food to feed them.

"I raped the girls in the motel and then took them to the Zuc hill
[north of Sarajevo], shot them and hid their bodies. I raped 10 girls
in their twenties and killed six of them," he said, identifying
the victims by name - Anissa, Fatima, Maira, Sabina and Senada.
He insisted that he was forced to act against his will because of
the threat of punishment by his superiors. He added that Serb commanders
continually told their men that Bosnian troops were performing worse
against Serbian civilians and that they were in a fight for their
survival.

What makes his account disturbing is the clear impression that his actions
were by no means an isolated but part of a widespread practise. The prospect
of trial and execution did not daunt the young prisoner, who said that
he looked forward to the judgement because he could no longer live with
what he had done. But he doubted it would have any impact in preventing
further brutalities.

"All I know is that while I am here sitting and talking, these same horrors
are going on somewhere else," he said.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)