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From: ivan@spider.co.uk (Ivan Reid)
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Subject: Deprived in UK! (also Re: Upcoming ST: TNG Program Guide 6.02)
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:11:27 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

Greetings fellow Trekkies! Here in Britain, we are starved of ST:TNG. Deep
Star 9 (?) is so far off that I'm not even sure what it is! At the moment, we
have to make do with re-runs of the original Star Trek episodes until the BBC
get around to screening TNG, season 3(?). We're way behind here <sigh>.

Anyway, I'm new to this group - please can someone tell me the ftp addr. for
v6.02 of the Program Guide? Also, if you are in the UK and know of a way to
see TNG episodes (I don't have a satellite dish), please let me know. The
low-tech of ST (The Original) is starting to depress me (the amusement
factor has worn off).

Deprived of Scotland.
(Ivan)

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From: d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  11-Jan-1993 0854)
Subject: Re: DS9: Who played "Jennifer"?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 05:53:35 PST
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: One LAST Time, O'Brien's rank.  After this, NO MORE OR B
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:52:30 GMT

In article <1ismn6INNpm3@lester.appstate.edu> BARNESD@vax1.elon.edu (Danny Barnes  ) writes:
>In <1993Jan10.215710.608@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:

>> And that's it.  O'Brien is and always was a Chief Petty Officer, even
>> though he wasn't. 

>WRONG!

Uh oh.  Getting this one wrong is like insulting a Trekker's mother.

>According to PARAMOUNT, O'Brien is a LIEUTENANT!  Read it on Page 143 of the
>TNG Companion, 2nd column, 2nd from the last paragraph, published by POCKET
>BOOKS which is owned by PARAMOUNT.

I, for one, am proud to proclaim from the highest mountain that I
neither have that page number memorized or have the book in question.

Um, what's his rank again?  Are you sure?  I heard from a good friend of
mine who works for WARNER BROTHERS (the home studio of Star Track: the
Next Generashun) that OBrian (and his wife Cayko) are Chief Petty
Lietenants.  FOR THE LAST TIME!

Good grief.
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Subject: Re: 30 The Hispanic or English Counselor Troi
From: trekkie@netlink.cts.com (Bryce Newall)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 20:13:46 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

S104374@UMRVMA.umr.edu writes:

> ------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
> >
> >Last night, there was a brief snippet on TV about the new women of
> >TNG, comparing them with the women of the orginal StarTrek. The
> >actress (I forget her name) that play Counselor Troi was being
> >interviewed. She sounds as if she has an English accent! On the
> >TV show, maybe it is me, but she sounds Hispanic!
> >
> >Is the Hispanic accent I am hearing her attempt to cover up her
> >English accent? Or was I out of mind when I heard the interview
> >and mistook the accent as being English?
> >
> >
> >Rakesh Patel
> 
> Marinia Sirtis (I know I didn't spell the first name correct, but hey)
> is Cockney and has a distinct offstage accent.  On the show she just
> kind of slurs her words.  I don't know, maybe this is supposed to be
> some kind of Betazedaccent, but then her mother speaks quite clearly
> (and vociforiously) so I think it's just her inability to cover up her
> natural accent.
> 
OK, here's the story.  (Oh, and by the way, it's Marina.)  Originally, 
when the show first started, they told her to come up with some kind of 
accent so that she wouldn't sound British.  So, she invented an accent.  
No problem.  It was planned that all Betazoids would have this accent.  
However, when the first Betazoid (besides Deanna, of course) showed up, 
namely Lwaxana Troi in "Haven", actress Majel Barrett didn't have time to 
learn the accent (they don't get the scripts very early).  So, starting 
with Majel/Lwaxana Troi, all Betazoids we've seen have had perfectly 
normal American accents.

Marina kept her Betazoid "accent" through the first season and most of 
the second, but gradually began toning it down, so that by now, she 
sounds almost like an American actress.  If you've ever seen the movie 
"Waxwork II", Marina has a very small part in one of the scenes.  When 
she says her lines (all 2 of them), you can detect absolutely no trace of 
her British accent whatsoever.  She sounds perfectly American.  I suspect 
that she still keeps a slight touch of her original Betazoid accent on 
TNG so that 1) we won't say, "Hey!  What happened to the accent?!", and 
2) she'll still sound slightly "other-worldly".

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From: rwmech@uumeme.chi.il.us (Robert W. Mech)
Subject: Re: Quote Me on this if you Like ...
Organization: UUMEME Public Access Xenix
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 21:37:46 GMT

In article <1invhtINNbf4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko) writes:

>Also, civiliziations on the other side of the wormhole, will pass the station
>after they travel through it. The station is in for a lot of action.

Are you saying that whole planets with civilizations on them are going
to just pass through the wormhole?  I would kinda like to see a planet go
through one myself. :-)

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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Deep Review 9: "The Emissary" (SPOILERS)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:16:05 GMT

Spoilers ahead...

ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this:  Kira was ready to sacrifice
>the entire space station to fight the Cardassians.  Now, I realize that
>surrender was not an option, and they only had 6 photon torpedoes, but she
>acted like she wanted to "die the glorious death" in battle against the
>oppressors of her people.  That's all well and good, but not with all those
>Federation officers in a Federation space station.  That just didn't seem
>right.  While the battle was occurring, I thought "She's responsible for
>every death on that ship."  Then, later, we'll told that there were no
>deaths.  How convenient!  Especially seeing that beam fall on that one
>guy.  I thought for sure he'd be dead.  I don't know.  That scene just didn't
>work for me.  She seemed just a little to selfish.

I disagree.  It seemed to me that she did about the only thing that
would make the Cardassians hesitate: she threatened them.  They had to
stop and think a bit before they attacked (which they were certainly
going to do eventually).  Surrender, as they said, wasn't an option.

Now, seeing that she knew that it was going to come down to a fight,
why not deal with Cardassians in their own manner?  Remember that in
CoC I or II Captian Jelico said that they were like wolves.  I don't
think her actions were selfish at all.  She did the only thing that
she felt could.

>>- How come the Borg didn't go after the escape pods?

>How come the Borg destroyed the ships?  Isn't their purpose to assimilate
>the Feds?  Destroying the ships won't leave a whole lot for them to
>assimilate.

The Borg assimilate worlds, not individuals, nor apparently ships.  If
they had wanted to take the Enterprise in BOBW I & II they'd have done
so.  The ships and a few thousand people were just in the way of them
getting to billions of people and billions of tons of materials.

One thing I wanted to mention (that I saw a couple of people address
in other posts) was the music.  Maybe the rest of you were
disappointed because it wasn't another ripoff of the existing scores
(which would have been a crime, IMO).  I wasn't.  I _liked_ the new
music.  Perhaps it doesn't have enough bangs or booms for the
"unwashed masses" to recognize the melody [ ;) ], but I thought it
sounded like pretty good "bold new frontier" music.

Also, did anyone catch the melding of the TNG and DS9 themes just
after O'Brien transported off the Big E?  Cute. ;)
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From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
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Subject: Re: DS9's new doctor and Checov
Date: 9 Jan 93 06:27:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan9.012738.19133
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <C0HKEH.31D@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs) writes:
>AHEM.....
>	Dr. Bashir may be of arabic descent, but this DOES NOT MAKE HIM
>AN ARAB NATIONAL OR EVEN MUSLIM  His first name is Julian for Allah's sake
>and he has a british accent so maybe just maybe he might be British????
>Come on people we didnt see sisko and presume he was from the Ivory Coast
>did we?  *Ratzafraggin closed mind...*

I'd kind of like to think he was, though, since we have never seen an
Arab character before in Star Trek.
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek)
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Subject: Re: Deep Review 9: "The Emissary" (SPOILERS)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:32:00 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <79482@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>In article <1ihrv6INNrmp@shelley.u.washington.edu> gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek) writes:
>>	I see that as a PRINCIPLED woman. As in, give me freedom or give me
>>death. As in, if you don't make the threat, you get trashed anyway with the
>>real possibility of the Cardassians going on to the planet and reinvading.
>Bwahahahahaaa!!!  "Give me liberty or give me death!" is all well and good.
>But you don't get to make that choice for me, and one person shouldn't get
>to make that choice for everyone there.

	Ummm...that's the POINT of a command structure.


-- 
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Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW, Uncle Bonsai Memorial Fan Club
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From: jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (J. Michael Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Arnold S. in ST:TNG?
Date: 9 Jan 93 17:04:00 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <egorr-060193114956@eeg5.uoregon.edu> egorr@hebb.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
>Any more info on whether or not Arnold S. (I don't even want to try to
>spell 
>the last name) will appear in a ST:TNG episode?

I also heard that rumor but I don't know any more about it..... and
I also don't want to try spelling his last name <g>

J. MIchael Clark
Ohio University
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From: rsvanc00@nx02.mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: DS9: Emissary (Spoilers)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx02.mik.uky.edu!rsvanc00
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:46:18 GMT

Don't say you weren't warned. Spoilers ahead off the Starboard bow!























The people that built the wormhole may have had previous contact with the
Borg, as they did not question Sisko's actions in fighting them at Wolf 359.

Rather, they wanted to know why Sisko continued to dwell upon the death
of his wife Jennifer, and why he held such a bitter hatred for Captain Picard.

Besides, what better a way to dispose of the Borg than to toss them down
a Wormhole? ;)

Randolph S. Vance
RSVANC00@mik.uky.edu (NeXT Mail)
From: ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Trill
Date: 12 Jan 1993 02:28:04 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
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Keywords: Trill Dax

Supposedly, when the trill enters the symbiont's body, the trill takes over the
mind of the symbiont.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
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Subject: Re: DSN or DS9 ?
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:38:45 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1993Jan4.075254.27517@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
<In article <9773.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com> scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield)  writes:
<>On Date: 31 Dec 92 23:49:35 GMT, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) wrote:
<>
<>VI>More fuel for the fire.  The TV Guide article uses DS9 for the abbreviation
<>VI>and, catch this, the script for "Emissary" uses DS9 for the abbreviation and
<>VI>Deep Space Nine when fully used.
<>
<>That would seem to settle it, in my opinion.  If Michael Piller spells it
<
<We know how he puts it on HATS at least...
<
<But, if it's so "settled", then WHY isn't the show
<called "Deep Space 9"??

You should know why.  Generally, numbers ten and under are spelled out. But for
abbreviations, numerals are just fine.
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From: ngustas@hamp.hampshire.edu
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Subject: Kira - ick
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:08:17 EDT
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I liked DS9, EXCEPT for Kira.  I'm not sure if it was the character, the
direction, or the acting.  Where Ro was strong, Kira was shrill and strident.
She was the only one that really grated on me - I liked the rest of the 
characters, even Quark (_especially_ Quark).  Sigh.  Maybe she'll grow into
the role.  Heaven knows Frakes and Sirtis have grown into theirs since
"Encounter at Farpoint".
Gabrielle
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From: alpha@hubcap.clemson.edu (Shekhar Borde)
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:03:09 GMT

smay@boi.hp.com (Scott Smay) writes:

>Carl Oppedahl (oppedahl@panix.com) wrote:
>: In <lk34874@pro-woolf.cts.com> bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Bev Woolf - Sysop) writes:
>: 
>: >Ronny Cox was also in a series a long time ago called 'Apple's Way' and he
>: >was in the movie 'Deliverance'.  He wrote the song 'Dueling Banjos' that
>: >was used in that movie.
>: 
>: A bunch of us are sitting here wondering what part he played in
>: "Deliverance".
>: 
>: What a neat item of trivia that he wrote the banjo song.
>:

>Cox was the wimp of the four city slickers and the one who died--they found
>his pretzelized body downstream.

>I used to own the recording of "Dueling Banjos", and I don't think he wrote
>the song.

>cheers,
>scott 


Didn't he also play the police lieutenant in Beverly Hills Cop I & II ?

-Shekhar


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From: caen.umich.edu (William Johnson)
Subject: Re: WHO'S HOTTEST ON DS9?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 13:38:21 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current

In article <15787.128.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>,
chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) wrote:
> 

> 
> I vote for Nana Visitor (Maj. Kira Nelys (?))... she's a robo-babe! :)
> She's a fox! In France, she'd be called la renarde, and she'd be hunted
> with her cunning as her only defense. :)
> 
> (Misquoted Wayne's World...)
> 
> Chris Burgess
> chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
>                                                                                                         
My God!  I thought that this would be over after the Troi nonsense.  What
in the name of (insert favorite holy symbol) does this really matter?  
Aren't we old enough by now to end this sophomoric rating on a
"Babe-o-meter?"
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
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Subject: Re: Is there a boot "Hotel Royal"?
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:24:36 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <zrsjp01.726136862@zmcipdec1>, zrsjp01@zmcipdec1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Peter Jesinger) writes:
> Does the book "Hotel Royal" which is mentioned in 
> a ST:TNG really exist?
> If yes, can anyone give me the ISBN Number please?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter

"Hotel Royale" was an episode I saw a couple of times. I remember one scene
where Picard was talking with someone (Data?) about the book and mentioned the
copyright date as being 199-something, 1993 I think.  Since this episode is
about three or four years old now, I think it's safe to say there is no such
book.

BC
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From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Uniform Colors in TNG
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:28:14 GMT

[wasalottastuffhere]

A friend told me that someone they knew has had a green TNG uniform for at  
least several months.  Since DSN previews only started about a month ago, did  
this person: 1. get a sneak peek at DSN long ago, 2. get the idea from a TNG  
show that I don't recall, or 3. never saw a green uniform but was just being  
creative?

Please email reply if not generally informative,
michael@monitor.com
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From: bobley@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Brett Bobley)
Subject: Re: Rank Structure (was Re: Uniform Colors...)
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:03:12 GMT

Rob,

In the old days:

One Star Admiral  = Commodore
Two Star = Rear Admiral
Three Star = Vice Admiral
Four Star = Admiral

Modern day:

One Star = Rear Admiral Lower Half
Two Star = Rear Admiral Upper Half
Three Star = Vice Admiral
Four Star = Admiral

Occasionally, though, folks will still say "Commodore" for
a one star.

Brett


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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Comments on DS9 "Emissary" **SPOILERS**
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 05:15:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.200231.16391@watson.ibm.com> kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>In article <C0E1E1.HHs.1@cs.cmu.edu>, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz) writes:
>
>|> Bajor spiritual leader:  Ehh.  I find her annoying, but that may be 
>|> intentional on the part of Berman & Piller.  Search for the celestial
>|> temple?  I'm skeptical.
>
>The character reminded me of the Shadout Mapes (or something like that) from
>Dune - might even be the same actress.  All mysterious and vague 
>and short and vaguely funny looking.

Funny you should mention that. Linda Hunt played the Shadout Mapes, and while
she was not the Bajoran priestess, she has a major role in CBS's new SF 
series, Space Rangers. She plays the commander of the Rangers' base.


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From: craig@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Craig R. Sadler)
Subject: forshadowing picard's exit etc.
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:45:14 GMT


POSSIBLE SPOILERS   




^L

 Deep space Nine 
 
  A great two hour show. I hope the series will be of the same quality. 
I was struck by the similarity between the character Kira Nerys (Nana
Visitor) and Ensign Ro Laren (Michelle Forbes). It seemed to me as if   
they are having Visitor play Ro Laren's part to a tee. I'll bet she  
even did a character study Michelle Forbes acting.

 The scene where Picard Beams O`Brien off the ship was forshadowing 
Picard's impending departure from TNG. This occured again when Picard 
turned and wallked away from Commander Sisko. Kinda sad.

 Those in therapy and recovery will probably relate to Sisko's being
stuck back in some emotional trauma, and the release and change he 
undergoes by getting in touch with the pain (dealing with it on his own)
that he had previously been unwilling to feel. "If you can't feel it you 
can't heal it."

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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Best Episode?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 07:27:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1993Jan6.154208.1847@linus.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
>    And now for the sensitive new age guy answer ( now that I've gotten
>    the macho, shallow, dumb-guy answer out of the way ):  _Lal_ is my
>    second favorite episode of all time.  The scene with Data and Lal at
>    the end, when she thanks him for giving her life, always brings a tear
>    to my eye.

Favorite quote from "The Offspring":

[Data to Lal]

It is the struggle itself that is most important.  We must strive to be
more than we are.  It does not matter that we will never reach our ultimate
goal.  The effort yields its own rewards.
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