From: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: Autopsy - Kahane and Rosenbaum
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:39:32 GMT

In article <92312.0328112893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

# In article <1992Nov3.132830.26992@ennews.eas.asu.edu>,
# makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) says:

# >In article <92308.0204012893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> andy
# ><2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

# ># In article <1992Nov2.135108.17692@umbc3.umbc.edu>, shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu
# >(Eliot
# ># Shimoff) says:

# ># >>>In article <92306.1839142893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> andy
# ># >>><2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

# ># >Think back.  Did you assessment of Kahane materially add to the
# ># >ongoing discussion?

# ># Opposing hero-worship of tyrants is always worthwhile.

# >        Agreed.  And as an ordained Orthodox Rabbi he would do
# >everything in his pwoer to discourage :hero worship" of him.
 
# Well, at least you agree he's a tyrant:)

	I will chalk that incredibly stupid response to what I wrote to
the fact that you have trouble grasping even the most simple elements
of the English language.

# ># I find it
# ># repulsive that Kahane is idolised in death, he was a dangerous madman, a
# ># true dictator in waiting who only preached hatred and intolerance.

# >        I find it repulsive that you keep on posting these lies.  Listen
# >people, why don't you read what he actually wrote instead of repeating
 
# I did read what he actually wrote.
 
	Fine.  Tha why don't you post something he wrote in its complete
context (or give th source so we can check the context and make sure
your being honest) and tell us what about it you have a prblem with.

# >the same old lies the Jewish establishment who were justafiably afraid
# >of him because they knew he was right on would catch on fast if left
# >alone made up about him.

# Like David Irving, Meir Kahane was banned from entering Canada because of
# his racist views and incitement of hatred and violence

	Wrong.  He was banned from Canada because of pressure from the
Canadian Jewish establishment.  They were politically afraid of him
also.  If you do not believe me, ask Ghandi to come speak.

# ># While my statement may have been excessively strident, I do maintain that
# ># Kahane's death should no more be mourned than the death of Ceausescu.

# >        I do maintain that you have not read one word of the late
# >Rabbi's.
 
# Actually, I spent an afternoon in Robarts Library reading "Let them Go"
                                                             ^^^ ^^^^ ^^

	Me thinks you might be a liar.

# and other pearls from the Kahane collection and found them reminiscent
# of other readings from ultra-nationalists and fascists
 
	What from his "collection" led you to that conclusion (this has to
do with the challenge I gave above)?

# Also, I have a friend in toronto who is a follower of Kahane and we have
# discussed his views extensively. I suspect anyone who tells you they think
# he's a racist, even if they've read every word he's written will be told
# they havent read him.

	Wrong.  I do not believe he was a racist.  However, most of the
people who claim he is have not read a single word.  I would be
delighted to have a reasonable exchange of ideas on this subject with
people who actually know what they are talking about.  All they have
to do is post (or email if they prefer) a specific argument and I
would be more than happy to respond.  One person in this exchange who
claims the Rabbi is a racist has done some reading.  I will not accuse
him of anything even though I disagree with him.
--
"For all I care, you can send your money to the Hitler memorial fund, too, if
that pleases you."

From  arens@vaxa.isi.edu (Yigal Arens) in article <9323@venera.isi.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish