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From: dw3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Christopher Wiggins)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Novice questions.
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:11:21 GMT
	<kukgvrINNdgp@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>
Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Stuart Monty writes:

>Something that has occured to me (although I've never had a chance to try it) 
>is something like "Blue Shower" (A spray cleaner/degreaser, frequently
used in 
>the electronics trouble shooting world).  This stuff is designed to flush 
>dirt, etc. away from an area and then evaporate quickly (in seconds).  
> 
>It would seem that an overly lubricated lock could be harder to pick than 
>an underly lubricated one.  If this is the case, then the "Blue Shower" 
>might work quite well.
> 
>Even if the lock require relubricating afterwards, the removal of the old
>lubricants, as well as all of the other gunk in there has got to make the 
>process easier (shouldn't it?).
> 
> 
>Has anyone ever tried this stuff in this application?


I used to work in an electronics manufacturing/repair shop. We had tons
of Blue Shower around. It is made by a company called Tech Spray. You
can get it from Sterling or any other electronics supply house. I had my
own can that I used for  cleaning up my own greasy nasty stuff. The
stuff works wonders. It should de-gunk a lock in about no time flat. It
is very important to note however, that Blue Shower strips off all the
good lube too, so if you want your lock to keep working for very long,
be sure to relubricate it.

-dave
From: mccaugha@duncan.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: The National Locksmith - Magazine
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:03:47 GMT
Reply-To: mccaugha@duncan.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <1992Apr12.132752.19106@ncsu.edu>, hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr9.160956.1578@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com writes:
|> > ...
|> >How hard is it to crank out a business card on a laser printer?
|> 
|>   I suspect that it is extremely hard for people who are incapable
|> of going to K-Mart, buying a $9 deadbolt lock, and taking the entire
|> thing apart (using specialized tools like screwdrivers) to see how
|> a pin tumbler lock works.

What do you do after you have bought the lock, taken the thing apart, 
comprended the internal workings, played with it, filed through the casing for
other locks (such as combination and key padlocks) to get at their internal
workings, read books at several libraries, then realise that there is still more
to learn but find that you have run out of sources?

|> 
|> --henry schaffer  n c state univ

-- 
...doug <mccaugha@cs.utk.edu> USA    | The past 22 years have been a |
                                     | helluva trip, but honestly, I |
                                     | am ready to come down now...  |
From: hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Novice questions.
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:12:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Center, North Carolina State University

In article <92104.085725C09615SJ@wuvmd.wustl.edu> C09615SJ@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU (Aack!) writes:
> ...  What makes one lock easier to pick than another?   ...
>       [even though they] use the same type of blank.

  Precision of manufacturing is a big factor.  Picking basically
depends on the pins and holes not being *exactly* the same size and
*exactly* where they should be.  Then there are other factors which
affect pickability.  There can be a differing number of pins (holes) -
even if the same blank is used.  E.g. there might usually be 5, but the 
more expensive secure variation of the lock has 6, and both use the
same blank.  With more, you have to reach further inside the lock
which makes it more difficult and have to line up more simultaneously,
which also adds to the difficulty.  Master keying (especially
excessive use of master pins) aids picking.  Dirty, grungy locks are
often harder to pick.

  If someone has flattened off the top of the cylinder (which makes
it easier to rekey a lock) or the cylinder doesn't fit well, or the
pins have excessive chamfer, then it is easier to pick.  On the
other hand such devices as mushroom pins make it harder to pick.
>
>     2>  After one of these attempts at my deadbolt I usually end up
>       sweaty and frustrated.  I also usually end up distorting my
>       tension wrench.  Is this bad?  Am I applying too much pressure?

  Probably.  With a deadbolt you aren't working against a spring and
so it usually takes very little torque.  Remember that all you need to
do is to have enough torque to hold the pins from slipping.  Is
the handle of your wrench made from springy steel?  I prefer this type
because the amount of torque is easily seen/controlled by how far
the handle is curved by pressure on its tip.
>
>     3>  The only picks I have found useful so far have been my diamond
>       and my rake.  Are the others just for show?

  Many people settle on a couple which seem to work for them.  I
use a rake and a "finger" almost exclusively.

--henry schaffer  n c state univ
Newsgroups:   alt.locksmithing
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: O.K...back to lockpicking.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:19:50 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In    <92105.101337C09615SJ@wuvmd.wustl.edu>   Aack! <C09615SJ@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU> writes:
>
>      Intriguing.  The must be limitations on where these can be used.

Well, you have to keep a few pin chambers with regular pins in order to
let the lock work smoothly.

> I imagine that locks that have been mastered wouldn't have mushroom pins
> or at least wouldn't use them effectively.  How common are mushroom pins?
> What's the benefit of spool pins?

I've only seen / used spool pins.  One advantage is that (for the top pins)
it doesn't matter which end you place in the lock first when pinning it.
They're not particularly common - I don't think you'll ever see one in a
standard cylinder you bought from a hardware store.  Works fine with
mastering, since the bottom of the top pin is below the shear line and so
applying torque will get the inside of the spool in the shear line rather
than the interface between any of the pins.

I suppose if I were pinning up a cylinder for someone paranoid (like
myself), I might alternate pin chambers, one with a spool top pin and
the next with a spool bottom pin.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: O.K...back to lockpicking.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:45:07 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Apr14.021452.12335@henson.cc.wwu.edu>  n8441213@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Gary Rutledge) writes:
>
> What's a mushroom pin? Bottom mushroom pin?  Are these a shape to limit
> the amount of 'UP' you can move the pin?

A spool pin is shaped like a spool of thread.  A mushroom pin has one end
shaped like that and the other end normal, and the middle tapered.  A
"bottom mushroom pin" is a bottom pin that's a mushroom pin.  The idea is
that if someone tries to pick the lock, the cylinder will turn at the
narrow part of the pin instead of at the shear line, so the cylinder won't
be able to turn all the way.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: ranck@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Dye marker fire alarms?
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:50:50 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computing Center - Distributed Computing Group

In article <BROWN.92Apr16153341@galoob.cs.utk.edu> brown@cs.utk.edu 
(Lance A. Brown) writes:
>> ranck@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) wrote:Article-I.D.: vtvm1.ranck.59
>>    This sort of thing only works once or twice.  Then the troublemakers 
>> find out about it and the workarounds are simple.

>Aye, but if everyone on campus KNOWS that somebody has tripped a trapped
>alarm, it is difficult to hide yourself with a purple hand.  Once or twice
>should be all it takes to catch the perpetrator.

   My point here is that there are always more than one of these jokers 
around.  Sure you might catch one or two, but all the others are going to
know about it and be forewarned.  It just seems like a waste of time and 
money to put in a system that will only work the first time.  
   In the case of bank cash bags with dye markers the dye is used to mark
the contents not the perp.  Can't spend marked money too easily.

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From: mccaslan@hydra2a.cs.utk.edu (a dancing marSUPial)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: O.K...back to lockpicking.
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:00:29
Organization: /blue/homes/mccaslan/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra2a.cs.utk.edu
In-reply-to: Larry Margolis's message of Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:19:50 GMT
In-reply-to: Larry Margolis's message of Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:19:50 GMT
In-reply-to: Larry Margolis's message of Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:19:50 GMT



>   I suppose if I were pinning up a cylinder for someone paranoid (like
>   myself), I might alternate pin chambers, one with a spool top pin and
>   the next with a spool bottom pin.
>
>   Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

ooooo, nasty :)
don
From: drenze@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: master combo locks
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:15:03 GMT
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

In article <geb1.702798829@Isis.MsState.Edu> geb1@ra.msstate.edu (Granville Barker) writes:
>I am under the impression that the Master Lock Company has a list of all
>the numbers on the backs of the combo locks, and the combination to the 
>lock.  
>
>I saw a printout of about 200 combination locks once, but they were the 
>master locks with the key-hole on the back.  But I would think they have
>this information for all the locks they ever made.
>
>Does anyone know if this is true, or if it is available for locksmiths??
>
>Also, is there some alogrithm they use to figure out the combo based on the
>number on the back?

Ummm...I think I can answer this one.  I was a carpenter for a school district
for a while, and we spent a lot of time in the local locksmith's shop (simply
because that was the one place that my immediate supervisor could go to screw
around and not have the Boss find him).  I did spend some time looking through
some of their books...I know with a lot of vaults there're books of algrorithms
out there which will let you figure out the combo based on the serial number.
I think he also had one for Master locks.

BTW, Re:  The Phrack method of opening a Master lock.  It supposedly only
works on the 'old' kind--the ones with the indented arrow rather than the
raised one, at least, that's what my copy of the process says.

Peace,



--
Douglas J Renze
drenze@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
+1 319 337 4664
From: mccaslan@hydra2a.cs.utk.edu (a dancing marSUPial)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: O.K...back to lockpicking.
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:49:25
Organization: /blue/homes/mccaslan/.organization
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NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra2a.cs.utk.edu
In-reply-to: ian@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk's message of 14 Apr 92 16:15:47 GMT
In-reply-to: ian@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk's message of 14 Apr 92 16:15:47 GMT

>   I found spool pins in the top part of a front door lock that I took apart.
>   Do the presence of these make the lock almost unpickable ?
>
>   Ian.
>
>   -- 
>   The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds;
>   and the pessimist fears this is true.  -- James Branch Cabell.
>
>   Ian Crocker 					ian@cyborg.bt.co.uk

Ah HA!  one that _I_ can answer..
i've heard things like this can be handled by 'reverse picking'
i.e. you push all the pins up as high as they'll go and cinch them
with the tension wrench, then slowly rake the pin in question whilst
letting up on the wrench ever so slightly..
hmmmm, there's something wrong with that idea, but i can't figure out
what it is..
i.e. i've never done it.
anyhow, that's the theory!
later on,
don
From: NORML California <canorml@igc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:59 PDT
Subject: Re: questions from NY
Nf-ID: #R:Idv=prW00VIGAdP7hI@andrew.cmu.ed:149514070:cdp:1301300143:000:104
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!canorml    Apr 16 23:59:00 1992


  LSD doesn't last "up to a few months" in the icebox:  it lasts years
and years.  At least a decade.  

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: amy young <alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Paul Hager -- candidate??
Keywords: ballot access options
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:49:45 -0500

In article <1992Apr16.204910.13875@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> damico@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (bill d'Amico) writes:

>I've been trying to find some people to run under the Independent Voters
>Party name for both the commissioners seats and the at large seats. I
>may have already found a candidate for Judge, but he's waffling. There
>also has been  a bit of a local party activism on voter registration already,
>from people that worked on the mayoral campaign last year. Many of these
>people would help support an independent candidacy by Paul if he decided
>to seek it. I also expect that readers of Paul's postings would also
>help monetarily to some extant, and also possibly with additional
>video/typesetting, etc services. HCRC members would also most likely
>support Paul.

As usual, just tell me what to do.  

(It'll be grand when the semester shifts so we make a new schedule so
I can get Wednesday nights off so I can go to the meetings again!!!)

amy
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.fan.john-palmer,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Subject: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...)
Organization: The Tiny Software Co., via APK Public Access Unix, Cleveland
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:40:36 GMT

In article <2nmj-nb.rcain@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>ziegast@uunet.uu.net (Eric W. Ziegast) writes:
>: peter@cybnet.toppoint.de writes:
>: 
>: Your plea may be falling on deaf ears.
>I hope so.  I *love* these things.  Please you guys that don't, just
>put something in your kill file.  It really isn't that hard.  They will
>all begin with Aiieeeee or some variation thereof.  Perhaps the rest of

You still don't get it! These messages are transferred over the phone line
and cost money to some of the sysadmins out there, WHETHER OR NOT THEY READ
IT. They're not asking you to kill the thread, they're asking you to take
it out of an inappropriate newsgroup. Some people have to pay long distance
phone charges or other charges to get news and I can understand why they don't
want stuff in alt.drugs that obviously doesn't belong there.

-s

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Fully Informed Jury Association (Pamphlet)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 05:55:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.122017.14745@news.cs.indiana.edu> hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Hager) writes:
>There are also preemptory challenges which allow the prosecution
>and defense to excuse jurors for any reason at all -- blue eyes,
>for instance.  These challenges, however, are limited in number.

not quite.
equal protection limits the state's exercise of peremptories.
it is impermissible for the prosecutor to use his peremptories
to exclude blacks from the jury just because they're black.

of course, showing racial bias in the use of peremptories is nontrivial
and in practice i don;t really know how well equal protection works
in preventing racially motivated peremptories.

-teddy
From: Christic Institute <christic@igc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 08 Apr 92 14:29 PDT
Subject: Causes and Cures
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1301300135:000:771
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!christic    Apr  8 14:29:00 1992


I'll soon be uploading several articles on the Causes and Cures
National Campaign on the Drug Epidemic.  They are rather long and
I apologize in advance if the length seems excessive.  But I think
the information will be interesting and useful.  Also included will
be a catalogue of resources (videos and books) on the "War on 
Drugs."

All the best,

Andy Lang

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From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Some questions...
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:36:07 GMT

oseiler@isis.cs.du.edu (Oliver Seiler) writes:
>2.  What are the dosages for Ecstacy? Euphoria?

Close to a dime (100mg -- 1/10 gram) for Ecstasy.

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)
University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
alt.drugs FTP site: milton.u.washington.edu[128.95.136.1] dir:/public/alt.drugs
               For quotes and other useless info see my .plan
From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Elizabeth Kupfer)
Subject: kill files and cascades
Summary: see body of article!
Keywords: look at the title!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:03:33 GMT

Alright.  Someone please tell me: if the folks who did not want anything to
do with cascades arranged to have them weeded out by a kill file, would they
still have to pay for them (money is an issue here).  If not, then that seems
the best solution to this biz.  We could agree to tag cascade-containing
articles so they'd be recognized by said kill files by a particular word in
the title. Then again.....

e.k.
--
elizabeth kupfer, euclid@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (preferred)
standard disclaimers apply
Those who do not trust enough are not trusted --Tao Te Ching
From: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Stueven)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: You All Suck
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:26:13 GMT
Reply-To: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gakbox.corp.sun.com

In article 3890@acsu.buffalo.edu, v116hgth@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Julie A Darmody) writes:
>Drugs are killing are children!!!!! How can you possibly want them legal?????
>You must be truly sick.

Hmmm...we usually only see this kind of stuff
at the _start_ of a semester...

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: WARNING ! Hot New Drug of Abuse
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:32:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

There is a big difference in the childhood hyperventilation games being
mentioned here and the hyper-hyperventilating that causes the profound
effects I think that was being reported initially.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: You All Suck
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:04:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

v116hgth@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Julie A Darmody) writes:
: 
: 
: e-mail replies will be answered 

Take a shot and hide behind your reader, huh?  If you are willing to discuss
this here then fine.  Please let us know.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Another democracy bites the dust
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:01:37 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Apr8.004810.9518@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.162307.39081@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dougm@kuhub writes:
>>According to CNN at noon on Monday April 6, 1992, Pres. Alberto Fujumora of
>>Peru has suspended the Peruvian Congress, placed prominent opposition leaders
>>under arrest, and has suspended the constitution.  He was supported in his
>>takeover by the Peruvian military, who's tanks were to be seen in the streets
>>of the capitol.
>>
>>Pres. Bush commented that the move is regrettable and a step backward.
> 
> Was Fujomora and the military supported by the U.S. government in the
> takeover?  Does the U.S. government support or oppose the politics of
> Fujumora?  (Ie. is there a counterrevolution to be expected soon or is
> this a good leader who will stay in power).
> 

	Considering the opposition is mainly Maoist rebels, expect the status
quo to continue.

Brett
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From: jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality and Hallucinogens
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:30:43 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I was in Crown books the other day and saw a hardcover book that
some M.D. wrote about his own hallucinations.  He talks about
nightmares, fevers, AND drug induced hallucinations.  I remember
there was a part in the first section where he described a 
hallucinatory experience where he used a sensory deprivation
tank "aided by" the hallucinogenic dissociative anaesthetic ketamine
(Special K.)  I was wondering if my hallucinations were worth a 
buck....

I know this isn't VR, but I thought this practical use of
hallucinatory experience might be interesting to some of you...

................................................................................
.    jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu			Joseph A. Tucker
.    "Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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