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From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Build Your Own !
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:33:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.085835.2862@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>Hi,
>
>	On the subject of dream project bikes, I have a little off-season
>challenge for you all :
>
>	"If you could build your own motorcycle, what would it be ?"
>
>No limits on materials, manufacturers, etc. but please endeavor to make it
>interesting.  If you just say, "all-new and handbuilt" certainly I for
>one will be disappointed.
>
>	Me and the bro were working on this one over Xmas.  Mine would
>certainly be like an SoS racer, while his would be a huge friggin', nitrous-
>injected behemoth of a streetbike.
>

I'd start with an NSU auto engine, forged crank, bored and stroked to 1800cc.
Open up the heads with bigger valves, cam it and supercharge it. Put it in a 
twin backbone double loop frame, with a massive cast swingarm that also
encloses the drive chain. A cavernous aluminum gas tank and solo old style
cafe racer seat with kickup, aluminum fenders with adequate coverage for foul
weather protection. Dual headlights for high speed night riding. Dual shocks 
by Koni. Marzocchi forks. 
   Course, if I had the $75,000 I could just order it from Friedl Munch.

Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Subject: Re: Dealing with the Insurance Scum
Reply-To: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:32:35 GMT

In article <1ikcp4INNa3j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu () writes:
>There is something very wrong here.  You pay around $100K for a return
>of $25K.  Let's see, if you had to pay that out of your pocket would you
>do it?  Would you put your house, car, bike(s), etc. up as collateral for
>a loan to fund this?  Are you getting ripped off by your lawyer?

	If you think I t-boned the cage at 25mph and spent the next
six monthes in and out of hospitals just so I can make a profit,
you're fucking nuts.

	No, @ $125K his cut would be around $50 leaving me with $75K.
After subtracting Hospital costs, medical examinations, doctor's
bills, x-rays, therapy, loan interest, supplemental Health insurance,
bike repair and adding in lost of pay, that would leave me around
$32.5K for my "pain and suffering" and "lost of rding time".

>The milk of human kindness -- thank you for giving the insurance companies
>a valid reason to raise everyone's rates.  Unfortunately, your tone implies
>that you've blown your pain and suffering out of proportion; one last question,
>were you even injured?

	Yes, very severely thank you. I've lost 15% in my neck's range
of motion, not counting other injuries listed in my doctor's file.
Somewhere in my archive of diskettes is the original post of my
injuries posted to Rec.Moto back in 6/90. I'll see if I can scrape it
up and send it to you.

>Ed
>DoD #1110

Tony Wang
twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu

DoD#0122	'89 Yamaha VX535 Virago 	(Gone)
AMA#450147	'85 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S	(Going)
HOG#0550903	'93 XLH-DX Sportster		(Ain't going nowhere)
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: V-4 Honda oil filters
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:54:46 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Robyn Landers (rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: In article <BLEVE.93Jan11202037@hoggle2.uucp> bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve) writes:
: >
: >If you only use Honda oil filters on your Honda V-4, you may be 
: >interested in this.  I have been using the oil filter from a 1986 
: >Honda Accord instead of the motorcycle one.  They are basically 
: >the same.  The only defferences are:
 
<stuff deleted>
: 
: 	So it is "basically" the same and it fits, that's all?
: Does it have the same or better flow rate?  Does the pressure relief 
: valve trigger at the same pressure?  Does it even have a pressure relief 
: valve?  Just because it looks similar and fits is nowhere near good
: enough for me.

Yeah, you know those unreliable honda cages have the worst cheap shit filters
Honda could find.  No pressure relief valves, lousy flow rates.  Come on!
He's not suggesting people use blue light special oil filters here.  The ones
Honda uses on its car engines aren't going to be *bad* filters.  You do have
a point about pressure relief trigger point and flow rate, but I would expect
the flow rate requirement to be similar on the car engine and if you change the
filter and oil frequently you should never activate the pressure bypass.
--

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* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* Computing Center at Virginia Tech, not Vermont ----------------------^^     *
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From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: To KotL
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 22:06:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.203058.2883@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.212111.14639@cs.cornell.edu>, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan11.193056.15988@ncsu.edu> kegunn@eos.ncsu.edu (KAY ELLEN GUNN) writes:
>>>
>>>Dear Kotl,
>>>
>>>Please issue me a DoD number. I have been reading this group for a month now,
>>>and I think I am finally ready to be initiated into this estimable group. I
>>>can flame with the best of you.
>>
>> If all else fails, try bribery, either large amounts of cash or
>
>	Yes.  This should work.  I confess.  I am the Keeper Of The List.
>Send me $1000.  Cashier's check is just fine.
>
>Rob

	WAIT!     He's leading you on!  Dond't send it!

	It's really *ME* that's the KotL <!!>  It's a secret, so don't
	tell too many other people.  AND, the price is $5000.  However,
	he was right on one thing, a cashier's check is just fine.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
  DoD #0709   doh #0000000004  &  AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
                BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                          Columbus, Ohio USA

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From: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Indian parts for sale
Reply-To: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
Organization: Telecommunications Systems Support Centre, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:27:06 GMT

As the .sig says, I have an Indian 741B.  Hopefully, not for too much longer,
as I am going to sell it off at the end of January.

I will be left with a large quantity of spares, which I have catalogued into
a list.

If anyone is interested in getting hold of some spares from me I will
be only too happy to send you a copy of the list.

You will have to be fairly quick, as I am sick and tired of tripping over the
boxes in my garage, and will sell the whole lot in one go if possible.

Replies by e-mail, please.

Doug Rinckes   drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp   TSSC New Zealand Ltd
1976 BMW R100S           1960 BMW R60           1940 Indian 741B       



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From: dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Prices of bikes in Europe?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 05:10:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1ian1nINNcqj@fido.asd.sgi.com> spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer) writes:
>dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Cook) says:
>> For
>> example, how much does a brand new BMW K75s cost in
>> Germany?
>1993 German BMW prices:
>K75S	17,300 DM = $11,764
>This bike is only $9,290 here in the USA. Other models are similarly
>more expensive in Germany than here.
>....paul

Really, a friend of mine just got one at BMW of Marin and payed something
like $10,900 out the door! She also traded in her three year old K75S. It
was the only lemon K75 that I've heard of, spent more time in the shop 
than out on the road. 

Does anyone have ideas why they are more expensive there than here?

-uncle dan

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From: chris@triage.UUCP (Groucho)
Subject: Re: More amusing BMW trivia... (christmas continues)
Organization: Triage Corp
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:15:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.155833.27299@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>In article <C0HL6C.58p@news.udel.edu> andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen) writes:
>>Just to add some fuel to this fire...
>>
>>This past summer I took my Ducati, two-up, including
>>gear for two for 4 days/3nights of camping (saddlebags,
>>tank bag, custom luggage rack carrying inflatable air mattress,
>>sleeping bag, tent, 12qt. cooler, bike cover, etc.) down
>>the Blue Ridge Parkway 1300 miles in one four-day weekend.

>4 days and only 1300 miles? You call that touring? Heck, Triumphs, Ninjas,
>and Sportsters can easily top that! By the way, is that considered an amazing
>feat of endurance for an Eyetalian sport bike?

:-)  No.  And furthermore, no.

Blaine of Utah will attest to having witnessed my Ducati in the wilds of
Colorado.  And Jim Ormand will tell you the bike made the entire trip out from
and back to Oregon with no problems, tuneups, or unscheduled stops.  :-)

1300 miles to CO in three days (mostly twisty backroads).  1200 back in two
days.  I'd say that adds up to around 2,500miles in 5 days.  Not great.  But
not bad by some people's standards either.

What was REALLY fun was taking the '82 Vision I once owned and riding it
from Daytona Beach, FL to Dana Point, CA in 3.25 days.  But that's another
story for another time (like when I'm not teasing BMW owners and having
them get violently upset over things they might have interpreted :-).


Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
The List->  Ducatis: 650TT2, 500SL, 860GT
	    Yamaha: RD400F (for sale - to make way for an NCR-replica Ducati)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Ducati prices outside New Zealand
From: Matt@chchp.ac.nz (Matt Thompson)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:24:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Christchurch Polytechnic
Keywords: Ducati
NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.203.99.76

Could some of you kind people enlighten me with the prices for any (the more 
the better) Ducati's in your area. New machines mostly but second-hand 
prices are OK. I'm also interested in the sales tax on new bike's which can
be subtracted for overseas export.

Thanx.

Matt Thompson
Software Technician
Christchurch Polytechnic
New Zealand
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From: chris@triage.UUCP (Wheres my 650TT2 Ducati)
Subject: I have one For Sale, was Re: ? about RD series of motorcycles
Organization: Triage Corp
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:04:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.222041.7057@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.155935.53990@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, f005@ns1 writes:
>>A friend was recently telling me about a motorcycle that I believe Yamaha put
>>out, the RD 125, 200, 250, 350, 400.  It might have been Honda but I'm pretty
>>sure that it was Yamaha.  Any information that I could get would be helpful.
>>Thanks in advance.
>
>Yamaha RD400:
>400 cc two-stroke twin.
>Easily modifiable to 50+ hp at the wheel, 39 stock.
>342 lb dry in stock form.
>Considered one of the best handling bikes of the '70s and still good
>today.
>
>In other words a real pocket rocket even by todays standards.  My
>pumped 77 RD400 will smoke my 88 FZR400 in a midrange roll-on and will
>worry most any bike short of a bells and whistles 600 sportbike.
>
>A smokey, noisy, raspy, ring-dingy right fist full of FUN!!

I have a 2,500 mile RD400F Daytona Special, mit DG pipes, original
headers and pipes (three sets) that is in overall VERY OUTSTANDING condition
that I'm interested in selling.  I've seen these advertised at $2000 to
$2500 in some places in the USA.  I'm open to serious purchase offers if
anyone is interested.  Or I'll trade straight across for a non or
sorta-running and complete Ducati bevel-drive 750/860GT.


chris@triage.rain.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>   Yup, she's a 
> seductive little slut, and you'll get no mercy using that color. 
> As my "Wicked  Italian" book would make it: Pantah alla puttanesca.  Pantah
> of the slut.  :-)            - Ed Hackett commenting upon the color red


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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethrowned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Keywords: tank, bloated
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:11:37 GMT

In article <C0Kqtu.C8H@ns1.nodak.edu> fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein) writes:
>Yeah, but it's so butt-ugly that I'd still buy the CBR.  I know, it's
>a great all-around bike.  But it still has that bloated Kawasaki look
>to it, and is a portly 33 pounds heavier than the Honda!

I don't mind the bloated look, but that stooopud NINJA decal! How can anybody 
over 25 years of age feel like an adult riding a bike called NINJA?  (Oh I 
forgot, the target market isn't adults.....)

First it was Beemer bigotry, now it's NINJA intolerance, must be gettin' old....
============================================================================
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    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
           "Too much of a good thing is never enough." -Luba
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From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: New Moto Guzzi Owners?
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:25:57 GMT
Organization: Big Billy's World Domination Center
Keywords: Moto Guzzi, 1000, 1000SP3

I'm looking at the new Guzzi 1000sp3, and am waiting for the weather 
here to warm up a bit before getting a test ride on one.  

In the meantime, does anybody out there have a newer Guzzi that
I could question you about?  sp3[or 2] owners would be perfect, people
who have ridden them would be fine, 1000s or CalIII owners/riders
are fine too, people who don't fit the above but have factually-
based arguments are fine as well.  Daytona owners who want to donate
their rides more than welcome. :-)

Please drop me an email line and I'll take the discussion to mail.

Thanks, 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
            Pat Loughery [patlo@microsoft.com] Seattle, WA
               '91 Nighthawk CB750 - DoD #393, AMA, VME
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"I had no shoes and I pitied myself. Then I met a man who had no feet,
                so I took his shoes."   -- Dave Barry
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: an4929@anon.penet.fi (gonzo)
Subject:      Help with an electrical problem, please
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:58:47 GMT

I have a problem with my bike that my local motorcycle shop can't
help with, and I really don't want to (and at the moment have no way
to) get it to a dealer.  I have a 80 Suzuki GS450L, and within the
last year, I've bought two new batteries.  Well, now it turns out
that it wasn't a bad battery that causes me to have to push start it,
but the charging system.  Before, when tested, the charging system
was a bit underpowered, but for a thirteen year old bike, doing fine,
so maybe the first battery was a dud.

Anyway, the guy that I'm friends with at the bike shops told ne that
it's either the rectifier/regulator or the alternator.  His educated
guess is the rectifier/regulator due to some tests he did on the
alternator, but he can't be sure, and he can't do the tests which
would be positive.  It would cost me as much to get my  bike up to a
Suzuki dealer and have them do the tests as it would to get both new
parts.

Here is what happens.  I'm hoping that someone can give me a better
clue.  My battery was wearing down every couple of weeks if I didn't
run the bike on trips more than a half hour at least twice  a week.
I would recharge it, and it would work fine for a while, and then run
down again.  My manual says that this is probably a bad alternator.
But, at the same time, my lamp has blown about four times in the same
number of months, which my manual says is the rectifier/regulator.
So, I'm stuck.  Also, my friend at the bike shop told me that the
tets he did on the alternator ruled out the alternator for those
tests, but there could be something else wrong with it.

So, if anyone can offer me any help, please please please e-mail me
at:   bgold@bss2.umd.edu

Thank you all in advance.



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From: chris@triage.UUCP (Wheres my 650TT2 Ducati)
Subject: Re: Ducati prices outside New Zealand
Keywords: Ducati
Organization: Triage Corp
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:15:20 GMT

In article <Matt.12.726193499@chchp.ac.nz> Matt@chchp.ac.nz (Matt Thompson) writes:
>Could some of you kind people enlighten me with the prices for any (the more 
>the better) Ducati's in your area. New machines mostly but second-hand 
>prices are OK. I'm also interested in the sales tax on new bike's which can
>be subtracted for overseas export.

Here in the USA one can find the following:

	BRAND NEW 1981 500SL Pantah - $4900US
	MINT 1982 600 SL Pantah - $4900US
	Usual price on these - $2900 to $4000US used

	'86 Montjuich/Laguna Seca - $15,000US mint/unavailable/fabulous

	F1 - $8000US (if original Ducati, NOT Cagiva)

	F1A/B - $6000US mint/used/nice to own

	New in crate MHR900 1982 (if memory serves) - $16,500US
	Usual price is now - $8000 to $11000US used/mint/near new

	'77 thru '82 900SS - $4500 to $11,000US used/mint/thrashed

	'75 and '77 860GT and 860GTS - $1500 to $2500US used/thrashed/unwanted

	'73 - '75 750GT - $2500 - $4500US used/thrashed/desireable

	'73 - '75 750Sport - $4000 - $9000US used/mint/very desirable

	'74 - '75 750SS - $25,000US approx mint/used/exceedingly desirable

	'73 750SS - $80,000US if you can get someone to part with one

	'90 - '91 851Superbike - $6000 - $8000US used/nice/fine canyon blaster


Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
The List->  Ducatis: 500SL, 860GT [want: 650TT2, 750GT/Sport or 860GTS]
	    Yamaha: RD400F (for sale - to make way for an NCR-replica Ducati)

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Build Your Own !
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:52:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.211716.8435@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.085835.2862@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>>Hi,
>>
>>	On the subject of dream project bikes, I have a little off-season
>>challenge for you all :
>>
>>	"If you could build your own motorcycle, what would it be ?"
>
>Aha, fantasy time!  How about building a v-twin two-stroke sport bike?
>I'd start with two 250cc (or even 500cc if I was really sick) motocross
>engines, cut off the gearboxes, and fit them together with an FZR1000
>gearbox in 90-degree vee a'la' TZ250.  Then build a box-style aluminum
>frame to contain the thing, along with swing-arm etc.  This is my fantasy
>so I can fantasize about having all the fabrication skills, no?  Then
>the best Brembo brakes and magnesium wheels, carbon-fiber tank
>and bodywork, etc.  Basically, a bike that winds up slightly larger
>than a TZ250, but with awesome power all through the rev range.
>Maybe 90hp, and 350 pounds.

 That sounds almost as good as my version. I'd get a vespa and put smaller
wheels on it. That way if I hit a pothole it wouldn't make it bigger. I'd
also try to reduce the hp by maybe removing a plug because as we all
know it would be better for the environment. Then I'd repaint it with some
real good paint. Kmart has a sale on patio furniture paint. I'd make it
an irregular square pattern. Different colors. Maybe put "Partridge
Family rules" all over it. Chick magnet or what. Then I'd get a license plate
frame that had a picture of Barry Manilow waving so if somebody cut me off
I'd then cut them off and when they saw Barry the'd know not to fuck with
me. Then I'd order a riding outfit from Elvis Accessories, something from
his bloated like a pig tour. White with a big scarf and lots of glittery
stuff.
 
I don't know maybe I'm just dreaming.

 
================================================================================
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 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. AMA#669373 DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: gbolcer@kleber.ICS.UCI.EDU (Gregory Alan Bolcer)
Subject: Honda VFR1000 Help.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:03:41 GMT

  I just recently got rid of my 1985 VFR1000, and
I made the claim to my office mate that I remember
it doing 0-60 in under 3 seconds easily.  Does
anyone have any stats from this class of bikes?
He doesn't seem to believe me.

Greg
gbolcer@ics.uci.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Subject: Re: AL weather
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:44:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.153433.25798@b30.ingr.com> mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com ( Phil Mueller ) writes:
>
>To all you Yankee and European DoDers:
	    ^^^^^^
>
>I rode to work today!!
>ha ha ha ha ha ha!!

BFD. So did I. It was 64 degrees in NYC. Lovely. Of course,
I ride every day, barring ice and snow. So I gather from the
fact that you make such a _point_ of your manly
accomplishment that you generally don't ride to work. Crash
much?  Afraid of 4WD pickup trucks with oversized tires
filled with gun-toting rednecks drinking Billy Beer and
whistling the theme from "Deliverance"? Or do you just get
lost?

:)

Maybe.
>
>-- 
>Phil Mueller                  Telephone:  (205) 730-3231
>Intergraph Corporation        FAX number: (205) 730-3453
>Mailstop: GD3000              Internet: mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com
>Huntsville, AL 35894-0001     UUCP address: bogus.dont.use


----
Mark Bergman		'77 KZ1000  (Biker, Stagehand, (former) Unix user support grunt)
Brooklyn, NY
718-855-9148

bergman@panix.com
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From: beemer@sunnup.MAGDATA.COM (Oscar the Grouch)
Subject: Re: lane splitting/sharing poll
Organization: Magnetic Data MN.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:14:28 GMT

In article <1ik36dINNqhl@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 93Jan7153720@laura.harvard.edu, lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>I want to find out what lane s*ing is legal where.  Consider this a
>>"chain" posting...
>>
>>	Lane 		Lane		Lane	Helmets
>						Mandatory
>>State	Splitting	Sharing (2 mc)	Sharing (cage/mc)
>>
>>MA	NO		YES		NO
>NC	NO		?		NO	YES
MN	NO		YES		NO	NO 
>
>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
>


-- 
Tom Neveras			twn@sunnup.MAGDATA.COM
Magnetic Data
6754 Shady Oak Road
Eden Prairie MN. 55344
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