HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dld30@quts.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Looking for LEGEND soundtrack
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:45:09 GMT
Reply-To: dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <16Yk02Zl1bqZ01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley) writes:
>In article <Brpwzp.1yn@me.utoronto.ca> steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:
>>ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:
>>
>>>Boy, am I having a tough time finding the CD of the soundtrack from
>>>the movie _Legend_.  (Tom Cruise)  Music by Tangerine Dream, with
>>>one song by Bryan Ferry and one TD song with Jon Anderson (Yes) on the
>>>vocals...  I have tried import record stores but no luck, and even
>>>Varese Sarabande doesn't carry it.  
>>
>>>Anyone know where the Legend soundtrack can be ordered on CD?
>>
>>You and me both!  I tried finding it a couple of years ago, with no luck.
>>The best I could do was a 12" EP of Ferry's song (Is Your Love Strong
>>Enough(?)).  My understanding is that an LP of the soundtrack was released
>>around the time of the movie, and is now out of print, and that no CD was
>>ever released.  Good luck.  If you do manage to find out about a CD, pls let
>>me know.
>>--
>>Dave!
>
>I know it exists because I saw it on CD about a month ago. I was in the
>sountracks section looking for "La Carrera Panamericana", the "new"
>Pink Floyd soundtrack. It wasn't there, but right behind where it should
>have been, there was a copy of the Legend soundtrack.
>--
Whoops! I was at the store last night and did a double-check. What I
thought was the Legend soundtrack is actually the Labyrinth soundtrack.
My apologies.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: pre Hatfield & National Health
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:11:28 GMT

Did you know that prior to Hatfield & The North and National Health and 
Matching Mole, Phil Miller and Pip Pyle were in a group called Delivery. 
Some information about a release of theirs and their appearance on some
other lps is included in a Lol Coxhill discography I just posted to 
rec.music.misc and .bluenote.  

I've heard a live tape of Delivery from 1971 doing a performance of all 
instrumental music. The performance itself was of music on a par with 
the Hatfield's and National Health, but perhaps a little rawer. The music`
included early protype version of Matching Mole's Godsong and Nan True's Hole
and of the Hatfield tune Oh, Len's Nature.  

I'd thought that they never released an lp, but I just dicovered that the 
family tree in Soft Machine's Triple Echo lp claims they did release one. 
They also appear backing Robert Wyatt on The End of an Ear and on some 
Lol Coxhill recordings. 

So where can I find or hear this release? Anyone got a copy?

DELIVERY released 1969-71 in the UK on the label B & C, catalog number CAS 1023

 - malcolm@wrs.com  
 
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: eckman@eos1.larc.nasa.gov (Richard Eckman)
Subject: ELP concert - Columbia, MD 7/28
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:02:03 GMT

I saw ELP at Columbia, MD last night (7/28).  After 14 years, they
haven't lost much of their energy.  Greg couldn't quite hit the high
notes, but otherwise the show was extremely impressive.  The set was
typical ELP-style, similar to the last time I saw them in '78.  Emerson's
keyboards are housed in a bizarre, Klingonese-looking enclosure.  The
modular moog is there, but it appeared to be for show only.  I didn't 
really see it being used.  Lake was on the far right with his trademark
persian (or similar) rug, and Palmer in the center, surrounded by drums,
gongs, etc.  What follows is the track list (to the best of my recollection), 
which seems very similar to the NJ concert of a few nights before, 
judging from a recent posting in this newsgroup.

- Karn Evil 9, First Impression, part 2 (abbreviated)
- Tarkus (abbreviated)
- Knife Edge
- Paper Blood
- Black Moon
- Keith Emerson solo:
    Creole Dance (Ginastera piece)
    Close to Home (6-7 year old girl standing in back of me tells her
	father: 'Daddy, I recognize this one; it's from the new album!')
- Greg Lake solo:
    From the Beginning
    Affairs of the Heart (Lake says this is the 'new single from the 
	album')
- Romeo and Juliet
- Pirates
- Lucky Man
- Pictures at an Exhibition (w/Palmer percussion solo, con brio, utterly
	amazing)

Encore:
- Fanfare for the Common Man
- America / Rondo (Emerson wrestling and knifing the Hammond)

  The audience must have averaged around 30 years old.  There were a lot of
people considerably older, a few appeared to be in the 60s!  Lots of
parents with children, an interesting audience.  Total playing time
was about 1 hour 40 minutes.  The group 'Bonham' opened the show.  They
sucked big time (IMHO) and really had no business opening for a band like 
ELP. It was certainly worth the 14-year wait!  I hope to see them again
in Concord, CA with my brother in September.
  A couple more tidbits:  Program for the concert was hideously overpriced
at $15, however it has nice photography and standard PR stuff.  It also
gives a US address for ELP fan info: 

  ELP INFO
  c/o Hard to Handle
  640 Lee Road, Suite 106
  Wayne, PA  19087

Sounds much easier than dealing with the UK address listed in the CD.
The program also contains a fascinating 'genealogy' of British 
progressive rock bands showing ELP's antecedents, descendents, and cousins.
  An article in last week's Philadelphia Inquirer also indicated that 
'Black Moon' is the first of a two-record deal that ELP signed on for
with Victory Records.

Richard Eckman
NASA Langley
Hampton, VA

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: ELP compilation details wanted
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:26:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.002226.19931@cunews.carleton.ca>  
wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:
> The new ELP double CD "The Atl-antique Years" has yet to be
> released in Canada (so what else is new?). Can someone please
> post details about what unreleased/rare stuff is on this thing?
> 
Sadly there IS no rare or unreleased stuff on the CD set. It does contain  
a lot of material (the two CD's are both just about full at 72 minutes or  
so). It does have a few things that aren't available on CD (at least in  
the US) such as the live version of "Tocatta" from Welcome Back My  
Friends... and "Canario" from Love Beach. It also has the original single  
version of "Father Christmas" which I happen to like a lot more than the  
one on Works Volume II. 

All the material is re-mastered and sounds very nice. They tried to bridge  
parts 1 and 2 of Karn Evil 9, First Impression and it seems like there was  
some other edit on it as well but I can't remember what (besides the  
abridged version of "Fanfare..."). Mark Mancina (the producer of the new  
album Black Moon) was a consultant to the re-mastering.

I was hoping there would be some truly unreleased material on it however.  
Emerson has on many ocassions referenced some and I was hoping to hear it.

Gordon

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From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Genesis
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:06:55 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Jul21.152240.3766@linus.mitre.org> sussman@linus.mitre.org (Stephen H. Sussman) writes:
>
>What do you Genesis fans other there think was the album where Steve
>Hackett was at his best.  I think Wind and Wuthering shows his
>influence more than most other albums, but maybe Selling England By
>The Pound was better performance wise.  What do you guys think?
>
>Steve

I agree with you 100%.

ptlk (ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: sjm8118@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Genesis GIFs at cs.uwp.edu.
Reply-To: sjm8118@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:10:33 GMT

With regards to my earlier post, actually I was not having difficulty finding
where Genesis GIFs can be found, but I was more interested in knowing what
the GIFs are!  atl40.gif does not really describe a GIF of Phil Collins singin
to me.  This makes it very difficult for me as I have to send the gif to my
VAX account and then tediously download them to see precisely what they are!
I'm sorry to complain and I must say that the GIFs I have been able to 
identify have been quite nice (Although I don't have enough quota for the 
Nursery Cryme one, much to my dismay!).  So really I was just wondering if 
some kind soul could tell me precisely what these GIFs are and save me the 
horror of downloading a gif called IT(something) (Which I had thought to be
something cool from The Lamb) and then finding that I had spent a half hour
downloading the cover of Invisible Touch (With appologies to die-hard Phil 
fans...BLECH!).

                                 Thanks,
                                 Scott McDonough
From: David.A.Wolk@dartmouth.edu (David A. Wolk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Gentle Giant
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:43:40 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Does anyone know anything about this band?  I have "Three Friends" on
CD, but was a little disappointed with it.  I heard they were very much
like Genesis and ELP.  "Three Friends" has some good songs, but at
times it is kind of weak.  What albums would you suggest are their
best?
Thanks,
Dave
From: romkey@asylum.UUCP (John Romkey)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance
Keywords: Progressive
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:31:56 GMT
Distribution: na

jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) about Dead Can Dance.

_Dead Can Dance_ is definitely my least favorite album of theirs. The
CD includes an EP, _The_Garden_of_Arcane_Delights_ at the end; I like
those songs a bit better.

Also check out _The Serpent's Egg_, _Within the Realm of a Dying Sun_,
and _Spleen and Ideal_. Their most recent album, _A Passage Through Time_,
is a collection of cuts from previous albums plus two new tracks at the end.
_The Serpent's Egg_ and _Spleen and Ideal_ are of similar caliber; I think
that _Within the Realm of a Dying Sun_ is probably my favorite, with _Aion_
coming in next. I like all four of these albums sufficiently that it's kind
of hard to rank them.

I'm not aware of any other albums by them.

They also have two songs on a compilation album (_Lonely Is An Eyesore_)
from their label.
-- 
	- john romkey	  ELF Communications	 romkey@ELF.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone)
Subject: Re: e: What are best albums of Genesis?
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:12:46 GMT

In article <Brup0L.Ewq@acsu.buffalo.edu> v134pfzd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (NADIR) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.143411.3387@linus.mitre.org>, rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) writes...
>>In article <1992Jul23.120340.29102@gvl.unisys.com>  
>>rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone) writes:
>>> In article <1992Jul22.141628.18649@linus.mitre.org>  
>>rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) writes:
>>> >> In article <1992Jul20.111108.14479@gvl.unisys.com>  
>>> >> rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone) writes:
>>> >> > In article <1992Jul17.190950.5143@linus.mitre.org>  
>>> >> rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) writes:
>>> >> > >In article <1992Jul17.115025.4092@gvl.unisys.com>  
>>> >> > >rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone) writes:
>>> >> > >> In article <elambert.711317846@qualcom>  
>>> >elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com  
>>> >> > >(Eber Lambert) writes:
>>> >> > >> >Best Genesis: Selling England,Lamb...,Nursery Cryme, Trick,  
>>> >> Trespass...
>>> >> > >> >              Foxtrot.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >	      Everything else is average(wind, Live, And then)
>>> >> > >> >	      or garbage ( => Duke)
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >But me... I'm just a lawn mower
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> 
>>> >> > >> I can tell by the way you walk.
>>> >> > >> 
>>> >> > >> 
>>> >> > >> 
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >It must be a draw...  there's no one left alive.
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > So the Blackcap Barons toss a coin to settle the score.
>>> >> 
>>> >> The Pied Piper takes his children underground
>>> >
>>> >Mild mannered supermen are held by kryptonite
>>> 
>>> And the foolish virgins giggle with their bodies' glowing bright
>>> 
>>> 
>>Amongst the weeds and slimey waters
>
>
>we're gonna make it right - tonight, tonight, tonight   oh, oh


And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine)
Subject: Re: Will the real Genesis please stand up?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.173849.27925@sei.cmu.edu> ledgerj@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu  
(Jim Ledger) writes:
> Ok - NOW. For those of you who feel that Gabriel, in a sense, took
> Genesis with him when he left (Eber, Roy, et. al.). Just out of
> curiosity, what was the first Genesis album you heard/enjoyed?
> I'm wondering if there is a correlation between the era in which
> people first found Genesis, and their opinion as to which
> incarnation is the "real" Genesis.
> 
> Jim

OK. I have to admit that the first Genesis recording I heard was the live  
album... (the *real* live album where Gabriel wore batwings and sang and  
Phil played his ass off on a four piece kit).  From there, I bought  
everthing that was out at the time of my discovery of this "new" band  
which included up to Selling England.  When the Lamb came out it stayed on  
my turntable (remember those?) for about a year and a half straight. 

I was really saddened to see Peter leave after the Lamb, but I thought the  
remaining crew did a nice job on TotT; Phil had not yet unearthed his full  
vocal potential (a la Las Vegas style).  ;<)  

I saw the W&W tour which was (Hacketts last hurrah) and my interest in the  
band steadily wained soon after his departure.

I don't think this type of evolution (or de-evolution as the case may be)  
is too unusual for the prog rock bands that have been around for any  
length of time. I think bands such as Yes, Gentle Giant (deceased), and  
Gong (which one?) experienced this same type of retrogression over the  
years IMHO.  
---
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*May you never hear surf music again*
From: rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Moody Blues mailing list?
Summary: does one exi?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:40:46 GMT
Organization: Digitopolitan Embassy to the US

Hello.
A quick question and an offer....

The Question: Is there a Moody Blues mailing list out there?  Please
              email.

The Offer: If there isn't I am willing to administer a [*un*moderated]
           Moody Blues mailing list (which could ultimately go moderated
           if I or some volunteer have the time and the list wants to
           switch).  If you are interested in joing such a list, please
           email (and enclose a suggested name for the list) and I'll
           get to work.

Looking forward to hearing from you either way...



--
Rich Carreiro                                    "My country, right or wrong,"
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Galaxy (was Re: Who is 'Progressive' in the 90s)
Keywords: Progressive
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:10:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <8_pmx2f.ranjit@netcom.com> ranjit@netcom.com (Ranjit Padmanabhan) writes:
|In article <13768@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|>Just to get things started,  I've got an album by a group called "Galaxy".  The
|>album is called "Natures Clear Well".  I think it's excellent.  Anyone heard
|>it?  Anyone heard anything else by them?
|
|_Nature's Clear Well_ is one of the older progressive rock works that cries
|out for release on CD. It is pretty good if you like the Eloy kind of sound.

I never thougth about the Galaxy/Eloy similarity but now that you mention
it you're right.  

Good to see you on the net again, Ranjit.


-- 
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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: ledgerj@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu (Jim Ledger)
Subject: Re: What are best albums of Genesis?
Organization: Ada Joint Program Office
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:38:57 GMT

In article <35985@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> little@cs.ucsd.edu (Glenn Little) writes:
>
>  I agree almost completely with the thesis of Jim's post; I would add
>  that Mike Rutherford's decline is on par with Collins' pop success as
>  a major factor in the fall of Genesis.

Indeed - it is perhaps the parallel success of Rutherford's solo work that
has contributed to his "decline." My feeling is that Banks and Hackett
held up the progressive end of Genesis after Gabriel left, with strong
musicianship from Collins and Rutherford, who had perhaps more "pop"
tendencies than the other two. When Hackett departed, and as Collins
became more and more of the parody of himself that he has become, the
choice of the band's direction probably did rest with Rutherford. As he
has enjoyed more solo success, he seems to have swung Genesis more towards
pop.

Perhaps this also explains why "We Can't Dance" seems (at least to me) to
be the least "poppy" of the "lousy" period -- to judge from his anemic
contributions to that album, the less he is involved with a project, the
more "progressive" it tends to get.

>  As a player, Rutherford has
>  at times been the force that brought a piece up from mediocrity.  On
>  "Behind the Lines" and "Cul-de-Sac", it's his bass work more than
>  anything else that provides that extra edge and keeps the songs from
>  being mundane.  He hasn't played bass like that since "Duke".

Yup. At least on a consistent basis. He's really a much better bassist than
he is a guitarist -- so WHY doesn't he concentrate on what he's good at?!

>  Banks' solo albums are good, but not as satisfying as they should be
>  either.  While his compositional sense is top-notch, he needs the
>  earthy dynamics that Collins could (at one time) provide.

I wouldn't leave out Hackett as a major factor in some of Banks' best
Genesis work. For all their disagreements, they came up with some great
stuff. You know, if Banks would just work with a top notch guitarist-
composer, rather than Stuermer (bleah), his solo stuff might reach its
full potential.

Jim
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Cover text for 'Lamb'
From: ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thomas Koenig)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:58:07 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Recently, I got out the 'Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' cover and reread
the cover story, and I'm as mystified as ever. Has anyone got something
like an explanation of what it is all about?
-- 
Thomas Koenig, ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz, ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: white@mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master)
Subject: New Brand-X CD
Organization: S.H.A.D.O.
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:37:23 GMT


	Has anybody else picked up the new Brand-X CD "X-Communication"
yet on Ozone Records?  I haven't made up my mind yet whether I like it
or not, but it's more of a John Goodsall/Percy Jones project than a
Brand-X one.  Percy Jones of course sounds great; he is an amazing
bassist...

Dave White
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From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Flying pianos/Drum clinic ELP
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:16:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>Having asked Carl Palmer (I saw him at a drum clinic) when "Welcome Back"
>would make it onto CD...he just laughed and asked for the next question.
>I guess the fact that Manticore records owns the set might have something
>to do with it. Maybe it'll come out after the videotape or something.

It is available on import from Japan.  I believe it lists for about
$40.00.


-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
**************************************************
"We're sailing on the wind of better days"
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine)
Subject: Re: e: What are best albums of Genesis?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:16:28 GMT

> In article <1992Jul20.111108.14479@gvl.unisys.com>  
> rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone) writes:
> > In article <1992Jul17.190950.5143@linus.mitre.org>  
> rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) writes:
> > >In article <1992Jul17.115025.4092@gvl.unisys.com>  
> > >rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone) writes:
> > >> In article <elambert.711317846@qualcom>  
elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com  
> > >(Eber Lambert) writes:
> > >> >Best Genesis: Selling England,Lamb...,Nursery Cryme, Trick,  
> Trespass...
> > >> >              Foxtrot.
> > >> >
> > >> >	      Everything else is average(wind, Live, And then)
> > >> >	      or garbage ( => Duke)
> > >> >
> > >> >But me... I'm just a lawn mower
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> 
> > >> I can tell by the way you walk.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >
> > >It must be a draw...  there's no one left alive.
> > 
> > 
> > So the Blackcap Barons toss a coin to settle the score.
> 
> The Pied Piper takes his children underground

Mild mannered supermen are held by kryptonite
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: the worst genesis song
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:47:50 GMT

v134pfzd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NADIR) writes:
: I believe the worst genesis song would have to be "Grendel"...

Is this a joke, or are you being serious?

Scott
From: v134pfzd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NADIR)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: the worst genesis song
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I believe the worst genesis song would have to be "Grendel"...

-dan(n)