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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Pyramid of Power (was Re: Battle of the Planets)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:49:01 GMT

In article <83391@ut-emx.uucp> aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>In article <BxFGHz.Bnp@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:
>
>>Does anyone remember the Pyramid of Power ( or some such name ).  When G-Force
>>was trapped in a hole or something, they all stand on each others shoulders
>>(actually I think they were one on top of the other rather than a pyramid -
>> poor Tiny on the bottom ;) ).  They would then somehow manage to spin
>>around and turn into a funnel cloud which then flew out of the hole.  I 
>>remember this little trick being as painful as the Fiery Phoenix (lots of
>>shots of gritted teeth and sweaty foreheads).
>
>Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
>
>You made me remember one of the more painful-to-watch cartoons from the early
>eighties with that "Pyramid of Power" thingie.  Anybody remember the name of
>the show featuring three talking panda bears that got conked on the head by
>little pieces of the pyramid of power, and decided to find and rebuild the
>thing before the BIG BAD GUY(tm) did?  If I recall, each piece of the pyramid
>blinked when pointing towards another piece...

Actually the reason I wasn't sure 'Pyramid of Power' was the right name was
because I was afraid I was mixing up these two shows. The show was called
"Pandamonium" and starred the three talking pandas: Chesty, Algernon and
Timothy.  I actually watched this quite frequently back then.  The pandas
were somehow able to join to make a big ugly panda which had special powers. 

As an aside Rick Dees (from the incredibly lame talk show and Disco Duck fame)
did some voice acting on this show.

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

- ...him big, grey, droppy-nosed puppy!

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: X-Men
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 00:12:20 GMT


Is it just me, or does Wolverine sound like G.I. Joe's Low-Light?

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From: ferret@metaphor.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka)
Subject: Re: BTAS:Robin????
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:23:53 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ferret@metaphor.engin.umich.edu


	Yes.  Robin has appeared in other episodes.

With a no-frills fact,
Ken
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Thunderbirds from the late 60's
Keywords: thunderbirds marionettes 60's
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:45:50 GMT

In article <hartig.721084178@eagle.fsl.noaa.gov> hartig@eagle.fsl.noaa.gov (Kevin Hartig) writes:
>
>Does anybody remember anything about the Thunderbirds. It was 
>an animation of models and marionettes. The TV show aired sometime
>during the late 60's. 
>
>I remember watching the episodes as a little boy and even had
>plastic paraphernalia related to the program.
>
>As a curiosity, I would like any information about the show 
>as it was aired and if any videos are available.
>
>-Kevin
> Hartig@fsl.noaa.gov
>--
>-Kevin
> Hartig@fsl.noaa.gov

Ah yes, from the minds of Sylvia and Gerry anderson. The Sci-Fi channel
appears to have rights to most of their Supermarionation stuff, and are
showing "Stingray" right now, every weekday morning at 7:30 am, 
Minnesota time. They will apparently switch to another one when this 
runs out, and have shown some scenes from "Thunderbirds" in their ads.

I do not know if there are individual episodes available, but there are
two feature length movies available:

Thunderbirds Are Go
Thunderbird 6

Watch for "Stingray", "Captain Scarlett And The Mysterons", "Supercar",
"Fireball XL-5" too! All puppets, all cool.
Sci-fi channel is also alternating runs of "Space: 1999", with Andersons
live action version of "Captain Scarlett", "U.F.O.". 
They did a great supermarionation video for some Dire Straits tune 
a while back too!
Hope this helps!
					--Judex--

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: BTAS: I am the Night
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:37:22 GMT

I was *very* impressed by the writing in this episode.  For example, they 
didn't just toss in Santyana's quote about "Those who are ignorant of history 
are doomed to repeat it" but also a more obscure but very appropriate quote 
about how a fanatic is one who "redoubles his efforts while losing sight of his
goal."  And of course, the classic "Abyss looks into you" quote.  And unlike 
one might expect of a TV show, the quotes weren't gratuitous.  They were in 
character and really fit the situation.
     The panhandler kid was really annoying, and his 'reform' at the end was a 
bit trite (although it was self-admittedly so).  However, the panhandling 
technique was in fact a good one.  It parallels the "towel" theory from 
HitchHiker's Guide:  if they think you have most of what you need, they will be
more lilely to give you more than if they think you have nothing.  Looking 
clean and relatively prosperous makes it easier to get a buck or two than if 
you look like a bum, since people don't want to 'encourage' panhandling but are
always willing to help out a peer caught a little short on cash ("Poor kid, 
caught in such a bad neighborhood without bus fare...here's a buck.").
     ROBIN NEEDS TO GET NEW CLOTHES!  He's been in four episodes now and still 
hasn't shown more than one suit of civvies.
     I think Babs was doing the 'smart' thing when faced by Jazzman.  After 
all, she was unarmed and had nothing to throw, and "all the martial arts in the
world won't stop a .45 caliber bullet" (Mongoose's entry, _Enemies_ by Hero 
Games).  Better to become a human shield...she can take a bullet better than 
Jim.  In fact, I was wondering if she'd have to bite the bullet and would end 
up in a wheelchair as a result....
     Dave Van Domelen, Muldaur is in danger of being typecast as a doctor...}->
From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Tyger, Tyger
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:19:06 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

In article <16809@umd5.umd.edu> mccormic@lab4.smcm.edu (Scott McCormick) writes:

>I would not say that because Catwoman did not fight anyone in this episode it would mean she had lost  
>any ground as a hero(I hate the word heroine- makes women sound like they have a drug problem).   
>Even Batman has been allowed to have weak moments where he isn't a hero figure.  She was taken by  
>suprise and she needed Batman's help as he needed hers in Cat and Claw.  Sorry if I came off  
>supporting something that I don't.


Oh, needing Batman's help isn't the problem - he's the hero, he's supposed to
save people.  But she didn't do anything for herself, even when she could have
or should have -- she was content to sit back and let Batman handle it.  And
now it seems like tomorrow we'll see that again -- Catwoman, only now she's 
infected with a disease so Batman has to save her.

Firestar



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From: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS - The Grey Ghost voice...
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:17:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: camelot.fletch.720926279
Organization: Bradley University


	Okay.  The person who did the voice for the Grey Ghost couldn't
have been Adam West, could it?  That would be too cool!

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Subject: Re: Anyone have any Batman-TAS gifs?
From: hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell)
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:24:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BxIpAK.D3p@CAM.ORG> emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend) writes:
[request deleted]
>
>Consider it done.  While we're at it, are there any other requests for 
>Batman framegrabs?  Where should I send them when done?
>
>(I've been looking for an excuse :)
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Post the pix to alt.binaries.pictures.misc (I'd tell you to post them here,
but that would be like playing with matches in a fireworks factory ;-) .

BTW, I'd like framegrabs of Catwoman :-)

Andy 
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From: jpark@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Animation cards for sale
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:16:01 PST

I have the following cards for sale (Note: all cards are in M/NM condition):

Disney Collector cards
- 210 card set
- 24 Ultrapro Platinum 9 pocket sheet protectors
- $10 plus s&h
- Fantasia Hologram available, write for details

Little Mermaid cards
- 90 card regular card set
- 10 UltraPro platinum 9 pocket sheet protectors
- $9 plus s&h
- 30 activity cards (15 pop-up and 15 coloring cards) $2 extra
- 7 stickers $3 extra

Beauty and the Beast cards
- complete 95 card set which includes:
  - 75 story cards
  - 10 magic mirror cards
  - 10 color-in cards
- 11 Ultrapro platinum 9 pocket sheet protectors
- $12 plus s&h

Fievel Goes West cards 
- complete 150 regular card set
- 17 Ultrapro platinum 9 pocket sheet protectors
- $8 plus s&h
- 5 hologram set $10 extra

Add $4 shipping and handling for the first set and $0.50 for each additional
set.  All the cards will be mailed in the sheet protectors and in padded 
envelopes.  E-mail me if you are interested.

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Thunderbirds from the late 60's
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 00:30:09 GMT


I understand that there is (or was recently) a Thunderbirds
Nintendo game available...

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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:34:39 GMT

In article <uslave.721080600@mcl> uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!) writes:
>In <Bx9AxH.C8I@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.) writes:
>
>>Mark threw a sort of bird-dart thing.
>
>I don't remember this part, but I *think* it was a boomerang?  I talked about
>this with someone else last year, but I forget....

I think it was very much like a baterang (looked like a pointy nosed bird, the
wing flipped open for throwing) but is could also be used as a dart because
of its pointy beak.

>>Ke-yop had some sort of bolo.
>
>Cheop.  Yep, it was a bolo.  Or was it a yo-yo?

It IS Key-op.  Even if my memories wrong, I looked it up. :)

>I don't think you ever got to see Zoltar's face.  But you did in the original
>Japanese version, "Science Ninja Team Gatchaman".  He was actually a
>Hermaphrodite with long blond hair.

This was a great question of debate when I was younger.  Most people remember
the episode where G-Force think they have captured Zoltar, but it turns out
to be a lower Spectra official who has taken Zoltar's place.  There is also
at least one episode where they remove the mask to see a lot of blond hair
and a dazzling light (at this point Zoltar somehow escaped) but as kids,
my friends and I were never able to figure out who he actually was (this may
be due to the cutting up of the original version).

> 1-Rover-1
Good grief! *That's* what I've been trying to remember all these years!?!

Does anyone remember the Pyramid of Power ( or some such name ).  When G-Force
was trapped in a hole or something, they all stand on each others shoulders
(actually I think they were one on top of the other rather than a pyramid -
 poor Tiny on the bottom ;) ).  They would then somehow manage to spin
around and turn into a funnel cloud which then flew out of the hole.  I 
remember this little trick being as painful as the Fiery Phoenix (lots of
shots of gritted teeth and sweaty foreheads).

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

 - I missed...fortunately for you!

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: BTAS: Grey Ghost
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:25:53 GMT

To answer two queries in one fell swoop, the reason everyone was eagerly 
anticipating this episode was *because* Adam West was supposed to be doing the 
voice of the GG.  And because the Ghost's story so accurately mirrored West's 
own.
     Dave Van Domelen, Fan.dom of the Alt.ra *IS* the fanboy from hell....
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From: mabriggs@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Mark A Briggs)
Subject: Aladdin release date
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 21:07:02 GMT

To the person who asked when Aladdin is being released,
the theater I work at is booked to get two prints on 
Nov. 27.  We got the soundtrack about two weeks ago,
and if you liked the stuff from the LittlE MERMAID
OR BEAUTY AND THE BEast, you will like this too.
Robin Williams is hilarious as the Geni.  Even
better than Batty Coda in Ferngully, mostly because he 
has a bigger part.

	Q
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From: wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson)
Subject: marvel toons in general/xmen bashing included
Organization: a2i network
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:13:06 GMT

I'm sure everyone has noticed that Marvel doesn't leave there own stuff
alone when they make a live-action or animated version of it.

Why the hell not?

Spiderman and his amazing friends:
i thought it was pretty decent acutally, but it had nothing to do with 
what was really going on with spiderman at the time. not to mention firestar
and iceman were 'on hold' at marvel.
the best episodes were those three done by Toei, the 'how they became SH's"

Punisher:
quick! kill it!
Why is the Punisher all of a sudden a vigillante cop? where is his body 
armour?
(ok ok, not animated but you see the trend)

now the Xmen.
Hmm... i thought the Sentinels were from the future... during the pheonix
time traveling era of the xmen. not created by the government.
the X-men should know what a sentinel is, and they know how to fight them.
(Gilroy tried to use sentinels against the X-men about a year ago...didn't
work to well)
Since when is storm a prophet/preacher/snob?
Where is Forge?! he only proposed to Storm!
The show makes the xmen out to be a bunch of ameteurs just starting out.

I'm getting sick of Marvel butchering their own stuff.
If i'm a fan of a popular comic for example... know what's going on
who the characters are, i don't want a introduction/alternate plotline.

most of marvel is not "kids stuff", lots of violence, long plot lines
and references etc. 

I think to do it right X-men should be animated alot better, broadcast at
a different time, and follow the current happenings of the Marvel universe.

oh yah... what happened to beast?? is he still frying on that fence?





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From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Subject: Re: BTAS: two DYN's
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:42:52 GMT

In article <2AF9FE45.5049@ics.uci.edu> rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.162057.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>>In "Dreams in Darkness," the doctor in charge of Arkham refers to the
>>Joker as "Jack Napier."  I guess this means they're using the movie origin
>>of the Joker.  Frankly, I prefer the comics version in which the Joker's
>>real name and history are unknown (and hopefully always will be).  It adds
>>to his horror if he's "the man from nowhere."  Anybody prefer the Napier
>>story?
>
>Urm.  The Jack Napier origin was used in "The Killing Joke"
>(a devestatingly good read IMHO), so I don't consider it necessarily
>from the movie.  Read it and feel sorry for a very much human Joker.

I just recently re-read The Killing Joke - I don't think they refer to him
by name in there.  (The "Red Hood" origin story has been around for a while,
BTW - this is just the first time they've told it from the Joker's POV.)

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Quantum Leap animated episode??
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:25:04 GMT
Keywords: When is it?


Near the start of the current TV season I remember hearing something about
an animated QL episode.  Whatever happened to that?  Did I miss it?  Did
it get cancelled?  What?

P.S.  No, I don't watch QL.
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From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: XTAS: NOTS part 2
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Distribution: na
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:36:50 PST

In article <83291@ut-emx.uucp>, aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
> In article <gez33H_00Vos46LUV3@andrew.cmu.edu> kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin J. Chen) writes:
 
>>- The plot.  Well, the government agency part wasn't too bad, but I
>>really hate the way the power levels of the Sentinels kept fluctuating
>>to meet the demands of the plot.  "Oh, we should kill a character now,
>>so make the Sentinels unbeatable."  "Oops, it's almost the end of the
>>episode and the heroes have to win, so make sure that Gambit, Cyclops,
>>and Storm can destroy multiple Sentinels by themselves."  Sigh.  Also,
>>when did Jubilee develop powers that could actually affect machinery?  I
>>was under the impression that her powers were purely the generation of
>>light (flashy stuff, rather than lasers) -- but it seems like she's
>>acquired an odd combination of Kitty Pryde's phasing and Dazzler's
>>powers.
> 
> Well, look at circumstances, guy!  The first time, the X-Men were ambushed
> by several Sentinels who proceeded to *split the team up* and take them on.
> Of course they seemed unstoppable!  The next time they fought, the X-Men
> were prepared to fight.  Note how Gambit FINALLY got it through his head
> that ONE card wouldn't do any damage, so he threw three or four at once?
> And especially inside that factory, the Sentinels had VERY little room to
> maneuver -- unlike outside.  No more of this "sneaking up on Rogue with a
> deathblast" stuff.  However, Jubilee (as I've said time and again) has
> been totally revamped with regards to her power.
> 


I'm sorry, but I just don't buy this.  First of all, having room to maneuver
*should*--hell, WOULD--favor the smaller, quicker, quieter fighters--the
X-Men.  In an enclosed factory, where the Sentinels could pin them down and
pound on them, they should have made much better targets.  As for being
prepared to fight, in the battle where Morph bought it (snif) the X-Men
had been in a running battle for several minutes (an eternity in combat
time) and had been on enemy ground for about an hour.  Just how long do
these guys *need* before they're 'ready to fight?'  As for being split up--
well, I simply don't know where you get this.  Both battles consisted of
scenes of one or two X-Men taking on one or two Sentinels; if there was any
difference in the tactics used, it wasn't shown.
Plain fact is, the Sentinels were easy to beat at the end of the show exactly
because it was the end of the show.
Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: fantasia/song of the south
Date: 3 Nov 92 18:10:15 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

RSL103@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
[cut cut]
>     The flak over Fantasia concerns a scene in the original version which
>was cut out, where a black centaur, a little girl some call a "pickaninny,"
>is seen shining a white centaur's hoof, like a shoeshiner in a railway
>station.  I agree that this scene should have been taken out.  When it *was*
>taken out in the 1960's, it was dated.  However, we should realize that when
>Fantasia was made, the majority of shoeshiners at the time were black.  There-
>fore, we should recognize that the scene was not necessarily meant as a racial
>slur, but rather a gag based on the recognition of the contemporary shoeshiner.
>But by the 1960's, in the heat of the equal rights campaign, this had turned
>into a dated reference, so as I said, it needed to be removed.

I agree with your points, but thought I'd clarify that the "pickaninny"
isn't just a shoeshiner.  She is obviously a maid to the female centaurs
who are getting ready to go meet the male centaurs.  She fixes their
hair, manicures their hands and feet, etc.  I always felt that a
prejudice element in this is that she doesn't get a man!  She just stays
behind and watches the other women strut out and attract their men.

I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that the centaurs pair off in
matching colors.  Heaven forbid that a blue centaur woman flirt with (or
whatever they go do) a pink centaur man!

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