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From: ebd0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EDWARD BAYKAR DERVISHIAN)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: related wiring problem
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:05:41 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I have a problem that doesn't specifically deal with the car radio...but hear
me out. I have a digital clock that I want to hook up to my car. When I got my
radio (pioneer....I forget which exact model) I tried to also install the
clock. I hooked the ground wire to the same ground as the radio's speaker
grounds. I hooked up the radio's power wire to the temporary power wire on the
clock. The third constant power wire is my problem. I tried several wires near
the radio all with the following result: Every time I use the turning signal,
the clock resets to 12:00. I then tried hooking it directly to the dome light
fuse and I got the same results. What should I do or what could the problem be?
Any help would be appreciated.
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From: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: TINT
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 

Come guys,
        Tinted windows ARE cool.  That is if they are reasonable.  That
Limo tint is a little anerving I do admit.  As for cop trouble...not
really.  My tint is legal for Ohio.  Sometimes I wish it were alittle
darker but I bet I will be glad they aren't when I do get stopped.
        Thanks for the idea about turning on the dome lite when a cop
stops you at night.  That is a good idea.  Open the window before he
gets to the car too.  <----an obvious one.
        About the person who said that he knows a gut who used a light
detector in his alarm system...how the heck did he get the thing rigged
so it did not go off with sun light but it did go off with a little
flashlight.  Or, was this just an idea he had and not put to use.  I
like the idea myself sinse the guy who nabbed my radar must have had a
flashlight.  I also keep a sunvisor in my windshield at night to prevent
any light from coming in.  This makes it really dark.
        To the guy who had someone break his tinted window:  I had the
same problem, as I noted above.  Yeah, the glass stuck to the tint but I
still got it all over my car.  How about you.  I can't imagine what it
would have been like if there had not been any tint.  Heck,  I am still
picking glass out of my butt when ever I sit in the seat <grin-just
kidding>.  It did go everywhere though.  I was VERY thourow<sp> in the
cleaning though.  I did the window myself.  It only took me 5 mins since
I already had my door panel off.  I did it in the dealers parking lot.
Unfortunately I had to buy new cause of my '92'Civic.  Not at the junk
yard yet.  Glad to know someone else takes advantage of the junk yards
of America too!  I use to get stuff when I had my old car('84'accord).
I still go when I need something in my new car and it can be used
universally(ex:switches and stuff).  Oh,well I gotta quit blabblin.
                Later all,  Rob Runkle
               
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: ljkong@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Lennard J. Kong)
Subject: Speaker to Preamp converters
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:16:15 GMT


   Has anyone ever noticed the wide price range between these converters? I havealso seen some which particularly claim less distortion than others. Does anyoneknow if there really is claim to these things or they are simply being hyped up?
   I have seen such ads in the Crutchfield catalog, these were of the more      expensive variety, I have also seen some for much cheaper in an MCM catalog. 
 Thanks.

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: "Gary A. Woodward" <p00140@psilink.com>
Subject: Kenwood krc-1004
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:11:47 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

Since my most recent experience in car audio I feel that i must inform 
all in the net that there is a recall for all kenwood models of this type.
Apparently the  fuse holder comes apart and causes all sorts of bad 
things to happen to your wires.  You should always register your 
equipment with the manufacturer so if a problem happens they can get in 
touch with you.  It happens more than i care to tell.  Also if you need 
serial # for theft report you can call manuf.


Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: "chad thomas" <chad.thomas@canrem.com>
Subject: amp problem...
Reply-To: "chad thomas" <chad.thomas@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:43:54 EST

Hi...

     Ditto happened to me except that I wasted a power rectifier in the
DC to DC stage.  Open the amp up and look for a charred diode in the
<should be, but not sure, I'd have to see it> V gain stage of the
channel.  Also browse the output stages topology.

     Re: the remote turn on.  Sounds like a heavy drain.  Make sure that
your amp and crossover's positive lead is solid.  If it is intermittant
or not hot, then the component will suck juice from the RMT lead.  If
this is not the case, check resistances between the RMT's  and the
hot / positive leads.  They should be nil as the relays used for the
turn on should draw negligable power.  If worse comes to worse, install
a 10A relay inline with the RMT lead feed by the positive supply.

Hope this helps...

                            Chad Thomas for
                                      David  Argiropulos
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From: n36ia@pnet16.cts.com (Et3 Francis)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: does anyone but me see this post????
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:36:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: nctams1.1992Oct9.063606.1595
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC

If so please mail me a quick letter to say you saw it. I have yet to see one
of my posts and am wondering if I am just writing to myself...
                                Brian

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From: poulson@cs.widener.edu (Joshua R. Poulson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Car stereo security
Date: 8 Oct 1992 08:08:43 -0400
Organization: Widener Univ. Dept. of Computing Services
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: lisa.cs.widener.edu

In article <6017@dove.nist.gov> keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys) writes:
>In article <1aspiqINNnkq@lisa.cs.widener.edu> poulson@cs.widener.edu (Joshua R. Poulson) writes:
>>In article <6OCT199211035091@bestsd.sdsu.edu> mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.) writes:
>>>In article <PBG.92Oct6101723@bob.cs.brown.edu>, pbg@cs.brown.edu (Peter Galvin)      writes...
>>>>And of course it's a pain to carry the large-ish unit.  
>>Please don't skimp. Don't buy a club. For god's sake don't tint your
>>windows. Buy an alarm, it doesn't have to be a really trick one, just a
>>couple hundred dollars will add greatly to your piece of mind.
>Now you tell me.  I just had my windows tinted Monday. :)  Actually, i 
>don't think the fact that my windows are now tinted will make any difference
>at all. I don't think that my tinted windows will draw any more attention
>than my:

The problem with tinted windows is it makes it look like you're trying
to hide something from the outside. The aspiring thief will come along
and shine a flashlight inside looking for goodies or just break it and
hope to find a treasure trove.

An aspiring anti-thief I know planned on putting a light sensor in his
dash to detect such things, but that's all icing on the cake.

>	- stock BBS wheels and low profile tires
>	- hole in the dash because of my pullout
>			or 
>	- the fact that my car is a VW Jetta (with the infamous
>	  triangle shaped rear window) which theives just love to
>	  break into...sometimes just for practice :)

That's why I got a Volkswagon Fox, slightly lower profile. :)

>Anyway, i have a good alarm, i remove the head unit, i park in well traveled
>areas, i use a club, and although i don't want the worse to happen, i refuse
>to let scum sucking thieves prevent me from enjoying my car.

Most thieves laugh at clubs, but they do move on to easier cars to hit,
but why use a club when you have an alarm?

>Besides tinted windows look cool. ;^)

True. :)
-- 
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Systems Programmer, Widener University     [jrp@netman.Widener.EDU]
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Subject: Re: Capacitors
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:33:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.185727.7462@scott.skidmore.edu>, jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (jason reiser) writes:
|> I made one small though relevent mistake when drawing that
|> crossover... I used the symbol for an inductor (I had a feeling when I
|> was drawing it that it may have been incorrect, but couldn't find a
|> schematic to reference the info from...)
|> 	Hope this didn't cause any confusion...


   I suppose a capacitor would look something like:

         -----|(------

   in ASCII. Or perhaps:

        ------||------

for what it's worth.

-- Tim
From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Port Lenth
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:15:09 GMT
Organization: Chevron


 I have some questions about port length for a sub box.

 Let's say I've calculated a port length of 5".

 Does that mean the port tube has to stick into the box 5"
 or is that the overall length of the port tube?

 In other words, if I have 3/4" wood, does the port tube
 still stick into the box 5" or only 4 1/4"?

     ----------]    [-------------
          3/4" |    | 
     ----------|    |-------------    
               |    |          
           5"  |    |  4 1/4"
               |    |            
               |    | 
               |                           


 If the answer is overall port length or 4 1/4", does that 
 mean I could have the port tube sticking in and out of
 the box.  I've haven't seen one like this but...

               |    |
           2"  |    |
     ----------|    |-------------
         3/4"  |    |
     ----------|    |-------------    
               |    |          
       2 1/4"  |    | 
               |    |            
           
        
 Thanks in advance.

 TRAVIS                               

 
  
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: gianos@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edward Alexander Gianos)
Subject: Re: Preamp noise. HELP!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.122000.1400@bmerh85.bnr.ca> ehawrysh@bnr.ca writes:
>
> The preamp and the xover share the same power, ground, and remote
                                                 ^^^^^^
> leads, although the leads to the xover are considerably longer. 
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Evan Hawrysh
>
>PS. Please respond to the net as I don't have email access.
 

Try grounding the preamp and the xover in different places.
Let us know what happens!
 
Ed
gianos@leland.stanford.edu


Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:23:59 -0400 
From: "Robert W. Igo" <ri09+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Capacitors

I just got capacitors to put in the line before my foam-damaged woofers
in my car.  I figured I'd prevent them from getting stuff below about
450 Hz to prevent them from trying to make decent bass sounds.  My
question is this: What line should the capacitors go in, + or - ? 
Anything else I should know?  (Novice question: They do break the line,
right?  
(wire) (capacitor) (wire) and not

(wire -----------------)
(     capacitor        )

if that makes sense...

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,misc.legal
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: ++$70 TICKET FOR BOOMIN' CAR STEREO-Help!++
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: oh
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 13:34:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.124346.24130@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber) writes:
>
>I live in Mansfield, Ohio and recieved a citation for my stereo being too loud.
>When I called to see what the fine was, they said $70!  My court date is coming
>up, and I have been told that I may be able to get it lessened if I plead 'No 
>Contest' and be honest-tell them that I wasn't aware that I could recieve a 
>ticket for my radio.
>
>They classified this as 'DISORDERLY CONDUCT'...if that matters.  I called the 
>police station that night to ask what the rule for stereos was and no one could
>tell me.  I know that on the second offense you can do time, and the third they
>try to yank it out of your car.
>
>If anyone has any knowledge concerning this please email me!

The "citation" you received should include the specific law under
which you have been charged.  The police (or local library, etc.)
should be able to provide the exact text of that law.  It may well
be that the police are usuing a general "disorderly conduct" law 
and applying it to loud car stereos.  That (IMHO) seems a bit overly
broad.  

You didn't indicate if you were parked with the stereo on (in which
case a nearby resident may have called in a complaint) or if you
were pulled over by the police as you were driving.  

I've been involved with the writing and development of several noise
ordinances in my home town and it is not an easy process to routinely
eliminate ALL noise as some folks would like, especially during
normal daytime hours.  

If you were just pulled over by the police while driving, I'd think the
disorderly conduct charge is really off the mark.  You may want to
get an attorney because the disorderly persons charge is probably
a misdeameanor and if you are convicted, you then have an arrest
and conviction record.  If that is the case, then you'd have to answer yes
on all future job applications when asked the typical question: "Have
you ever been arrested?"

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From: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: SECURITY
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 

Just a little note:
        I got tinted windows(minus one), a removable faceplate head unit
and an alarm and my car still got broken into to get my piddly little
radar detector.  Ohhhh....the alarm....well....its a Kenwood and the
factory was fixing it for me.  It took them a month(great service
Kenwood-NOT!).  Luckily I had my head unit out at the time.  Whew!#@$  I
truely believe that the car would have been safe if the alarm had been
in.  I called Kenwood and complained but they gave me the "That is not
covered by the warrantee" blurb.  I knew that....I was just pissed that
is took them a month to get the darn thing back to me.  I thought that
was an unreasonable amount of time.  <------Just thought I would give
Alpine a break and complain about someone else for a change.<grin>
About the window...it cost 75$ for me to replace it myself.  Then there
is the price of the tint that I have yet to get replaced ($35).  Oh
well, thats the breaks<no pun intented>.  It could have been worse and
heck I should stop speeding anyway.

My tip is to:
        Get tinted windows, and alarm, and some kind of removable unit
type of thing...or what ever you can reasonably afford of the above
mentioned. BUT, you have to realize that if a good thief wants your
stuff...he willl get what he wants no matter what.  So...make sure that
you are covered properly with your insurance company.  That is the only
way to fully protect yourself against a dollar loss.  Now the emotional
loss if a differant story...Visit a Shrink<grin>.
        Just blabblin,  Rob Runkle
From: p00140@psilink.com (Gary A. Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: bias adjustment
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:57:23 GMT
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

The tape player can be adjusted.  You need a 3K hz tape and an 
osciliscope to tell when you are adjusted properly.  You probably should 
take it to a shop. 
GW
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,misc.legal
From: mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber)
Subject: ++$70 TICKET FOR BOOMIN' CAR STEREO-Help!++
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:43:46 GMT


I live in Mansfield, Ohio and recieved a citation for my stereo being too loud.
When I called to see what the fine was, they said $70!  My court date is coming
up, and I have been told that I may be able to get it lessened if I plead 'No 
Contest' and be honest-tell them that I wasn't aware that I could recieve a 
ticket for my radio.

They classified this as 'DISORDERLY CONDUCT'...if that matters.  I called the 
police station that night to ask what the rule for stereos was and no one could
tell me.  I know that on the second offense you can do time, and the third they
try to yank it out of your car.

If anyone has any knowledge concerning this please email me!

MAXEE D
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: shing@tramp.Colorado.EDU (shing)
Subject: JL Audio, and Phoenix Gold amps
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:48:33 GMT

Actually, I meant to say JL Audio SPEAKERS, and Phoenix Gold amps.  
Sorry 'bout that.  Anyway, what do y'all car audio specialists say
about these?  I was at a store today, and they said they are about 
the best woof's and amps you can get.  I agree about the PG amps.  
They had 22 speakers going, including 2 15's, 1 12, 1 10, and the rest
were midrange speakers, at a .25 ohm load with a PG M25 amp (25x2 watts) and it still had thump left over. The JL Speakers were VERY nice also.  
What do you all think about those components?  Oh, the 2 15's, 12, and the 10 that that m25 amp was pushing were JL's.

 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: jdavis@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason Davis)
Subject: Re: Ftp site for Perfect Box???????????
Summary: PerfBox
Keywords: Speaker Box design software
Reply-To: jdavis@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason Lee Davis)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:31:31 GMT


Perfect Box (PerfBox) is available via anonymous FTP from:

	csd4.csd.uwm.edu      -AKA-     129.89.8.4

PerfBox, asa well as several other programs, is located in the
/pub/high-audio/Software  directory.


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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: ehawrysh@bnr.ca (Evan Hawrysh)
Subject: Preamp noise. HELP!
Reply-To: ehawrysh@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:50:31 GMT

I've got a Rockford Fosbreak PA1-HD preamp in my system, and its causing 
a high-pitched noise in my tweeters. I removed all line-level signals and
the noise still exists. So, that narrows it down to power, ground, and remote.
These are wired to the same place as my Coustic XM-3 xover is, so I figured
the noise is getting on to the xover lines and getting into the signal.

But when I tried different power, ground, remote locations (found a different
power source and wired power and remote together), the noise was less but still
exists (although the ground may have been grounded at the same place).

So I yanked the preamp out. Right now I am driving the xover with my head unit
and it is noiseless.

What can I do to get rid of the noise? Should I run shielded cables for the 
power, ground, remote? I still got the noise when there was no input to the
xover, so I figure shielded cables wouldn't make a difference. Would some
strategically-placed diodes help?  Any input would be appreciated.


Evan Hawrysh

PS. Please respond to the net as I don't have email access.
From: holowczk@rwja.umdnj.edu (Richard Holowczak)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: SECURITY
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:54:13 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

gianos@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edward Alexander Gianos) writes:


>For added nighttime security, I keep my honda under a locked cover.  It takes
> [extra stuff deleted]
>will make him more leery to hang around.  BTW-order a custom cut one, 
>mine (from J.C. Whitney, ~$110) fits like a glove.
> 
>Ed

I heard somewhere that car covers can trap moisture against your car and
that will promote rust.  Perhaps this is only with cheap covers? (or cheap
cars??)

Rich Holowczak
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: sgccrjh@citec.oz.au (Robert Howlett)
Subject: Re: Proton amps
Organization: CITEC
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:44:12 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

JLW154@psuvm.psu.edu () writes:
:      Can anyone tell if proton amps are any good.  I,ve heard that they are but
:  I'm not really sure.  I might buy one.
: 
: Thanks in advance.
: 
: Jay Wade

Well, I've owned a couple of Proton amps ove the years (mainly samll ones)
the 222 and 230.

Pros : good quality sound for the price
       power ratings tend to the conservative side
       I have personally had no problems with reliablity.

Cons : Can sound harsh, esp if used to drive tweeters
       Suffer VERY badly from alternator whine and other such noises.
       In one car I found the noise impossible to get rid of completely.

*NOTE* I do not work for Proton.  I am merely a reasonably satisfied customer

Becuase of the problem I have had with electrically induced noise, I 
would not buy another Proton amp.
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From: v523d85n@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert C Maggio)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: bias adjustment
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:43:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i have an older sony 7050 tape player and i am wondering about adjusting the
bias and the other adjustments that may be inside the unit.

there are four small screws for adjustment inside near the tape head that are 
color coded.  what i would like to do is adjust the bias in order to 
restore the tape response.  i dont really want to take it to a shop because
im replacing the unit after christmas, but since my girlfriend dropped it
(yeah, yeah, yeah... by the way, it is a pullout, and it does get pulled),
the highs have been accentuated and the lows sound muddy.  not a big 
difference, but i notice it and want to try to fix it. 

im also just interested in how these things work.

any advice appreciated, thanks, rm

p.s. im not replacing it with a sony-im going with an alpine or denon
tape deck, cd changer combo.