From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Part IX, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy
Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:21:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Jul24.162157.20015
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk
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Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


        I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a
        broadcast by Pacifica Radio station 
            WBAI-FM (99.5)
            505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
            New York, NY 10018        (212) 279-0707

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                           (CONTINUATION)
GARY NULL:
Alright.  Approximately what percentage of that bullet should
have been missing?

MICHIO KAKU:
Tests show that you could easily get twenty to thirty percent
deformation of that bullet. Now I should also mention that NOVA,
the science program on PBS, did a reenactment wherein they got a
watermelon, and they shot bullets through the watermelon, and the
watermelon actually recoiled in the direction of the bullet,
which violates common sense. The conclusion would be, therefore,
that it is possible to violate common sense and have the head
lurch in the wrong direction. However, the tests done on this
watermelon were of a disembodied head, in the sense that there was
no neck and there was no body. You could even blow on a
watermelon with your breath and have the watermelon move.        
In other words, this is an extremely minor effect. It only takes
place when you have a watermelon suspended without being attached
to another body. However, tests done on animals by, for example,
deer hunters and bear hunters have not shown this recoil effect
where the head lurches in the direction of the bullet. So I think
that NOVA was grasping for straws, trying to get a relatively
minor effect to explain a major discrepancy within the ballistics
[data] of the Warren Commission Report. And the very fact that
the FBI was forced to deliberately tamper with the Zapruder film
indicates that the FBI itself was aware of the fact that the body
was going in the wrong direction.

GARY NULL:
That would therefore give us the impression that the FBI
participated in the cover-up of the assassination of President
Kennedy.

MICHIO KAKU:
That's right.  In 1975, the Freedom of Information Act revealed
some of the minutes of the Warren Commission Report, which stated
that they were aware of the fact that Oswald was, in fact,       
Agent S179 of the FBI, and that he was an informant of the FBI
who got something like two or three hundred dollars a month for
his work, and that this information would be EXTREMELY important.
But, basically, they failed to follow it up because they couldn't
put FBI agents under oath and have them lie under oath, and so
this report was essentially unverifiable. But three different
sources, including the Attorney-General of the State of Texas,
stated to the Warren Commission that their understanding was that
Oswald was, indeed, Agent S179 of the FBI. And the conclusion of
the Warren Commission Report was that this evidence was so HOT --
it was SO damaging that it would have to be kept classified for
fifty years. Fortunately, the Freedom of Information Act revealed
this document in 1975.

Also, by the way, in 1978 the House Select Committee [on Assassinations] 
interviewed the CIA paymaster -- a Mr. Wilcott, James Wilcott -- 
and he testified under oath that he was, in fact, the paymaster 
of the CIA in charge of covert operations against the Soviet Union, 
and that one of his contract employees was, in fact, Lee Harvey Oswald.
So, in other words, Oswald was a bit player and he apparently had
a role to play with the FBI and also the CIA. And both agencies,
of course, had a vested interest in keeping this information out of
the Warren Commission Report.

GARY NULL:
I think it's interesting at this point that CIA Director Gates is
now suggesting that the file on Oswald, which he is turning over,
will show that Oswald had nothing to do with the Kennedy assassination.
Of course, anyone who would accept for a moment that the CIA is going
to give any information about anything that has not been altered
is extraordinarily naive.

MICHIO KAKU:
Right.  In fact, in 1973 the CIA destroyed most of the Oswald
file. We know that it was in two large file cabinets -- in fact,
two large file cabinets with four drawers apiece. He had a 201
file, which means that he had a very long history with the CIA,
and in 1973 the CIA destroyed that entire file. So, in other
words, what is going to come out now is basically a fraction of
what was, once upon a time, in the files of the CIA. Now the CIA
has been questioned about this and they said that this was
"routine cleaning" ["housekeeping"]. So in the "routine cleaning"
of the files, they destroyed potentially damaging information.
We will never know what was in these files. So whatever Gates
might reveal, at some point, will only be a shadow of what was
actually in there.

GARY NULL:
And CERTAINLY nothing that would implicate the CIA.
Also, is it not the case that the primary person pushing this
"single bullet", this "magic bullet" theory is Pennsylvania's
Republican Senator Arlen Specter, who also was the Anita Hill
basher?

     [JD: Sorry, but my tape ran out at this point, and
     the person who was taping the broadcast for me did not 
     immediately flip over the tape. I'm now doing all of my 
     audio taping on 6-hour-capacity videotape. I'm also trying
     to obtain copies of the missing segments of the broadcasts,
     so that I can incorporate those transcripts into future
     installments of this series.
     Here is the resumption of what was taped.]

GARY NULL:
.... anti-Castro Cuban exiles, as if this was not a major link.
They chose to overlook this. We're going to explore why, and many
other aspects of this investigation.
Let's go back now to see if we have a proper connection so that
our guests can hear us. Gentlemen, are you on the phone?

JOHN DAVIS:
This is John Davis.  I'm on the phone.

JIM PERRIS[?]:
Jim Perris[?].  I'm on the phone.

GARY NULL:
I'd like to start our discussion with John Davis, giving us an
overview, if you would, so that we can understand what the
scenario was.

JOHN DAVIS:
Good afternoon.  It's a pleasure to be on.
You know, people with private political agendas have been wanting
to pin the blame for the assassination on the United States
Government -- on the CIA, and on Lyndon B. Johnson, but there is
no CONCRETE evidence of this. It is all wishful thinking. It is
all supposition and inference. Where the evidence lies is with
organized crime; with a limited conspiracy involving Carlos
Marcello, Santo Trafficante Jr, Jimmy Hoffa -- supported by a few
individuals in the Cuban exile movement.

Now, first of all, I have to explain myself why I think there was
a conspiracy, because the available evidence indicates that
Kennedy was struck twice by bullets from the front and twice by
bullets coming from the rear, and Governor Connally was struck by
a bullet coming from the rear that was not the same bullet that
hit the President. Therefore, this adds up to anywhere from two
to four shooters. Hence, a conspiracy. But evidence that it was a
conspiracy goes far beyond an accounting of bullet holes.

Let's consider first the motive for an organized crime conspiracy.
We have to realize that, for the first time in United States
history, the executive branch of the Federal Government declared
war on organized crime.  This had never happened before. For the 
Kennedy brothers, it was all-out war against the Mob.
"I'd like to be remembered as the guy who broke the Mafia", Bobby
Kennedy told an associate in 1961, shortly after he took office
as attorney-general. In his book, THE ENEMY WITHIN, Robert
Kennedy had written: "If we do not attack organized criminals
with weapons and techniques as effective as their own, they will
destroy us."  Now, to back up this admonition, one of the first
things that Robert Kennedy did, in his assault against organized
crime, was the so-called kidnap-deportation of Carlos Marcello
on April 4th, 1961. Now this was an unprecedented and arguably
illegal act. Kennedy had Marcello snatched off the streets,
herded to an awaiting Federal jet, flown to Guatemala, and dumped
in a Guatemala City airport. Marcello had complained that he
couldn't call his wife, pack any clothes, or cash a check. 
The action put the mob on notice that Kennedy was serious.
Upon returning to the U.S. illegally, Marcello swore vengeance
against the Kennedys on at least three reported occasions. We
have witnesses for three occasions in which Marcello swore
vengeance against the Kennedys.
                      (TO BE CONTINUED)
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    Transcribed by John DiNardo
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