From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani)
Subject: Re: Are Lebanese considered ARABS?????
Organization: LC
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 05:08:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.160737.10004@ac.dal.ca> bibr0027@ac.dal.ca writes:
>I was wondering....do most Arabs consider the Lebanese as Arabs?
>
>Is it a given that Arabs must be Muslim? (the majority are).
>If Lebanese are arabs, why do most Christian Lebanese consider 
>themselves as not being ARAB?
>
>I am a Lebanese, who has fought on both sides of the matter.  I use

>to think that Lebanese were Arabs.  Not anymore.  Perhaps politically
>only....  What have the Arabs done for us, except force Palestians
>unto our land, with their guns and all.  Why do most Lebanese

According to the article that you just posted on soc.culture.jewish,
*YOU ARE A PALESTINIAN*. Here you are denying it, and attacking
your own people.  You come from Palestine a couple of
generations ago, but you refered to the land as Israel, a term
most of us don't agree of.

I guess it is OK for you to consider youself Lebanese while
you have a place to go such as Canada, or Lebanon, but
those refugees in the camps (as Basil Hamdan guided told you)
don't.

>fear these "Phadaeey"?  Palestians are arabs aren't they?  Who gives

Palestinians are a mixture of arabs and none arabs, you are a
good example of what the Palestinains are.

Just like the Lebanese, are they arabs? Who knows.   THey
all can be a mixture of arabs, phenos, italians, crossades, kurds, ..etc.

>them the bloody rite to come onto our lands, take what they want,

Again, your land, but not theirs.

>kill you they desire, just because Israel has replaced what
>was known as Palestine.  The Lebanese government can only help

Israel didn't replace Palestine, Israel moved from Germany
to and displaced the Palestinians.  Palestine is still there.


>to a degree.  Why do the arabs in their Arabic League decide
>on the fate of Lebanon with others like Syria. 

Lebanon should decide its own fate, I agree.  Lebanon's 
problem is that it is weak.

>All these questions keep floating in my head.  Would someone
>please help answer these questions.  I have nothing against
>the Palestians or their cause, or any other Arab party.

After what you said on scj, Lebanon could revode your Lebanese
papers since you admitted of being a Palestinian.  And, if
Canada deported you, then you'll find yourself living in 
a refugee camp exposed to the massacres that could be
commited by the Phalangists or Israel .

>A while ago, when I heard the rumor that Lebanon was to be no more,
>and Palestine was to be in it's place, I was going to...3@#$@$#@$

None sense.

>You give em an inch they want it all.....
Basil answered that, the Palestinans live in a very small tiny,
heavily concentrated, and gutted land.

>
>Anyway....would someone please enlighten the situation for me and others..

From what I see, you have been hanging around the Phalangist Lebanese.
Open your mind and sit with Lebanese from Tripoli, West Beirut, 
Saida, Sour, ...etc.  Don't be single sided , and don't allow
yourself to be brain washed.

>John LAWEN                 
>
>No offence to anyone.....


Not at all.


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