HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Bong materials
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:10:17 GMT

x3120gld@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:

>     Someone once told me that it is not healthy to use PVC in water pipes. He
>did not know exactly why, and I haven't been able to confirm it elsewhere.  Is
>this rumor true?  Are they any other materials one should watch out for?
>Please mention your sources, if possible.

   PVC, when heated, gives off HCl. It's not nice to have in your lungs or
anywhere else. A FOAF uses a bong with a PVC tube in the sucking end, but
since it is not exposed to much heat, he probably needn't worry too much
(hopefully, that is). It also has an aluminium tube, which makes my FOAF
just a little bit worried. Is it possible that significant quantities of
aluminium would dissolve in the water and even end up in one's lungs?
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi	Finger for PGP 2.1 key
From: DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Alcohol Effects
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:32:46 GMT
 <1993Jan26.133126.5314@linus.mitre.org> <1k4dfhINNot8@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
Distribution: inet
Organization: Penn State University


 Actually, some people mailed me and said
 it sounded like a kidney problem.
 I guess that's not good.
From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 18:32:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

It's been pointed out before that this thread often becomes just a list
of what each person likes. Of course this is subjective, but I am
interested in people's recommendations on a specific genre: Psychedelic
Music.

Now, I do NOT mean Grateful Dead-type acid rock over blues progressions;
I do NOT mean techno, noise music, industrial, etc. though I have nothing
against those genres. The music I am thinking of was produced mainly
between, say, 1966 and 1974. It usually has kaleidoscopic mixes of real
sounds, often people speaking, tape loops, sudden changes in mood, weird
effects, psychedelic lyrics.

Here are a few that I think fit this category:

The United States of America (both band and album title) c. 1968. My
	favorite in this genre. The composer Joe Byrd went on to produce
	a couple more hard to find albums: Joe Byrd and the Field Hippies
	and Yankee Transcendoodle. USA was recently reissued on CD.

Head (unrelated to the film of the same name): 1970. A novelty record,
	really. An early recording of the Moog synthesizer designed
	to be listened to in altered states.

Head (the soundtrack to the Monkees' film) c. 1968. Mostly songs, but it
	does have some interesting montage segments.

The Nude Paper Sermon by Eric Salzman. Completely a montage of musique
	concrete from contemporary sounds.

Of course the Beatles in certain well-known songs.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Crystal Meth____?
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:26:03 GMT

eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder) writes:

>Note: methamphetamine is one compound and thus should be referred 
>to in the singular.  The word "amphetamines" is sometimes used to 
>refer to phenylisopropylamines as a class (eg psychedelic amphetamine)
>although I recall Shulgin frowns on this practice.

   IMHO a good practice would be to call amphetamine and all its (stimulant)
N-alkyl analogues "amphetamines". A distinction would then be made between them
and the "psychedelic amphetamines". Of course, some compounds such as MDMA
would be excluded, as "psychedelic" would not describe their effects with
sufficient precision.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi	Finger for PGP 2.1 key
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From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Subject: Re: Mary Jane, Tobacco, & cigarettes (was FUCK NICOTINE)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:26:44 GMT

In <1993Jan24.143415.6349@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Paul Hager" <hagerp@cs.indiana.edu> writes:

>A quibble -- the stated half-life of Po210 in the article was
>just over 20 years.  According to "Chart of the Nuclides" published
>by Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory, the half-life of Po210 is
>138.38 days.  I should also point out the Po210 throws out so
>many alphas that Polonium metal samples are bathed in the blue
>glow of Cerenkov radiation even when sitting in ambient air.
>Po210 is in the last part of the decay chain from U238 that ends
>with: Pb210 -> beta -> Bi210 -> beta -> Po210 -> alpha -> Pb206.

polonium:

A rare radioactive metallic element of group VIA of the periodic table; a.n.
84; r.a.m. 210; r.d. 9.32; m.p. 254! C; b.p. 962! C.  The element occurs in
uranium ores to an extent of about 100 micrograms per 1000 kilograms.  It has
over 30 isotopes, more than any other element.  The longest-lived isotope is
polonium-209 (half-life 102 years).  Polonium has attracted attention as a
possible heat source for spacecraft as the energy released as it decays is
1.4 x 10^5 J kg^-1 s^-1.  It was discovered by Marie Curie in 1898 in a sample
of pitchblende,

[from:  A Concise Dictionary of Chemistry, Oxford Paperback Reference, c.1990]


-- 
The movement of the Tao consists in Returning.        =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
The use of the Tao consists in softness.              -mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu-
All things under heaven are born of the corporeal;    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
The corporeal is born of the Incorporeal.           
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: sw4847@uacsc1
Subject: Shrooms by mail-order
Reply-To: sw4847@uacsc1
Organization: University of Albany, SUNY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:37:13 GMT

Actually they do send you the spores (active) it's leagal. All of the spplies
and the equipment are leagal and the spores don't contain any illigal
substances. I ordered a similar kit. I was able to get the spores to start
growing on agar but I wans't able to succsessfully transfer them to the next
groing medium. I helps if you have access to an autoclave.

							Scott Weinstein
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From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:07:52 GMT

In article <HkimXB4w165w@works.uucp> iskra@works.uucp (Mr. Greenjeans) writes:
>Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's been so long since anything on 
>alt.drugs has made me laugh out loud.

Guess you missed the "THAI stick for flavor" post... maybe we could
repost it monthly.

	 PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail
   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
From: insthemp@igc.apc.org (Institute for Hemp)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: No Drug Tests for White House
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:38:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1301300242:000:1321
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!insthemp    Jan 26 19:38:00 1993


DRUG TESTS FOR SENIOR WHITE HOUSE STAFFERS PUT OFF UNTIL FEBRUARY
15 WASHINGTON (JAN. 22) UPI - Drug tests for senior White House
staff members have been put off until Feb. 15 for "administrative
reasons," President Clinton's spokewoman said Friday.

Press secretary Dee Dee Myers confirmed The Washington Times
report that drug testing rules for top ranking White House
personnel have been waived for a month to permit the aides to get
settled in their jobs.

The waiver was issued by Bruce Lindsey, the White House personnel
director, for new employees during the transition.

The urine tests, ordered first in the Reagan administration and
continued in the Bush White House, were to determine whether there
was any involvement in cocaine, marijuana or other drugs.

Meantime, Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, called on Clinton Friday to
direct his senior staff to immediately submit to drug tests "to
clear up the issue."

Barton said it takes a month to clear the blood of drug use.

"If they have nothing to hide it won't matter and if they do, they
shouldn't serve," Barton said.

"The American people must have the confidence that those running
our country have drug free minds, especially when critical
judgment is necessary for important matters of national security,"
Barton said.

Transmitted:  93-01-22 15:10:00 EST
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: nwoodard@dante.nmsu.edu (WOODARD)
Subject: YOU FUCKERS
Summary: you fuckers
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:25:17 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Keywords: 

I am getting sick of hearing all you druggies encouring kids to use
drugs. Its bad enough that you are using crack and heroin, cousting us
honest taxpayers billions in crime and medicine. But you want to ruin
the future of our kids as well!

There is obviously one solution to you drug f**kups. We need to throw
anyone caught using drugs out of the country. Revoke all citizenship,
and forbid one step back into this country. If you do return, punish
by death. (Lethal injection - how appropriate)

This country is going to hell. And it is all you f**kers fault!



Drug Free and PROUD of it.
From: Sniktmas@cup.portal.com (Eugene - Archibald)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: YOU FUCKERS
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 20:43:38 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

>I am getting sick of hearing all you druggies encouring kids to use
>drugs. Its bad enough that you are using crack and heroin, cousting us
>honest taxpayers billions in crime and medicine. But you want to ruin
>the future of our kids as well!

Yeah, I'm cooking up as I type this.  Riight.

There's a difference bewteen being a pusher and advocating personal freedom
of choice.

--Sniktmas
Occasional drug user and glad to be there.
From: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug Laws...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:31:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile) says:

>
>I'm curious and I figure other people are too, about the various drug laws
>across the country. If you are familliar with the drug laws in your area
>please add this to the post. Eventually I figure it will be possible to
>assemble the drug laws for every state in the nation. You might ask why and
>I'll say it's because that's what usenet is for...;) shit like this. !
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Michigan I think is mandatory life without parole for selling or possesion.
>but nothing that I can remember for use...what ever that means
>-- 
Date: Tue Jan 19 15:39:00 1993
From: pluther@percy.rain.com (Pat Luther)
Subject: Drug Laws...
To: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu



In California, I have heard (from those who've been busted) that possessing
over 10 hits of LSD is automatically considered "intent to sell." And
"intent to sell" LSD is a mandatory manslaughter charge.
				??pat 
btw, I'm sending this via email cuz I can't post from here this week.
Feel free to post if you want.

-- 
Pat Luther: Lex's Evil Twin
picard!pat@percy.rain.com <-- NeXTmail OK.
pluther@percy.rain.com (sometimes quicker)
luther@uop.edu (could take days, or even weeks)
"If there's nothing wrong with me, then maybe there's
 something wrong with the universe!"
-- 
One can only truly appereciate moderation until they have experinced excess!
Death to the weakling! Wealth to the strong!
disclaimer:===> This is all a lie and I don't believe a word of it......!!!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lrvanh00@nx38.mik.uky.edu (lee r vanhorn)
Subject: Re: LSD in the eye
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:22:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.092757.33@janus.arc.ab.ca>  writes:
> >
> >Try this: Get a single dose, (in the nifty little paper squares we've  
all come
> >to know an love) and hold it in your hand for 1/2 hour to an hour.  You  
WILL
> >trip.  I'm not scientist, but the molecules of LSD do have the ability  
to enter
> >the bloodstream through skin.  I once knew a guy who went to a concert  
with a
> >sheet o' LSD with the intention of selling it, but couldn't manage to  
get
> >anyone to buy it, so he stuck it in his sock so he wouldn't have to  
have it
> >risk falling out of his pocket.  BAD idea.  I'm not sure what happened  
to him,
> >but I think he passed out, and is currently a vegetable.  I haven't  
seen him in
> >2 years..  At any rate, YES, acid can be absorbed through the skin.
> >Careful, guys.
> >                                                
> 
> A friend of mine used to put those little squares of blotter in his eye 
> (honest). He claimed that he got a better/quicker high this way. I  
personally
> have a fear of anything near my eyes (fortunately I don't wear
> contacts/glasses).
> 
> Bob

Well, you can put the hits in your eye, under the eyelid.  I have never  
tried it, so I don't know if it has any advantages.  But I do hear that if  
you do, it will leave a little permanent red dot on the eye in the place  
where it was.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: LSD in the eye
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:54:36 GMT

cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:

>    What is it about drugs use that stimulates the generation of so many
>urban legends?

   I realise that it was a rhetorical question, but it is, of course, the
mystique and public ignorance that are direct or indirect consequences of drug
prohibition. If you were 14 and wanted to tell something like relly wierd and
k00l to your friends, what subject would you pick?
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi	Finger for PGP 2.1 key
From: tailspin@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana/asthma
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:15:57 PST
Reply-To: tailspin@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:

> In article <amywoman.727853221@camelot> amywoman@camelot.bradley.edu (Amy Har
> >In <1993Jan22.183151.3377@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mar
> >
> >>to avoid the nasties of smoke, you can always also eat it (brownies or 
> >>something).  of course, eating takes quite a bit longer for the THC to get
> >>into your bloodstream.  
> >
> >But isn't it the fact that you smoke it and inhale it into your lungs the 
> >reason why *smoking* marijuana helps asthma?
> >Doesn't seem like it would have the same effect if you just ate it, even
> >though the THC would enter your bloodstream.
> 
> I don't have my references handy, but I do believe that it's the THC in the
> bloodstream that works against asthma attacks.  Smoking is just a quicker
> route of administration, while eating could take ~30 minutes.
> 
> -marc
> andersom@spot.colorado.edu
> 
> 

Not true that Marijuana helps cure asthma. I had a classmate that died 
from an induced asthma attack from a bong hit. How can it possibly help 
cure asthma?

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ tailspin@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: rush?
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:26:53 GMT
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.

In article <1k26d3INNkc0@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey
J. Kruse) writes:
>aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
>> It can be either amyl nitrite or butyl nitrite. The amyl nitrite is
>>usually iso-amyl nitirite, but I'm not sure about butyl nitrite. It cou
d
>>be n-butyl or sec-butyl, but I don't think they use tert-butyl for this

>> It's a vasoDILATOR. It causes the blood vessels in the head to dilate,
>>therby reducing the pressure to the head because oflack od arterial ton
,
>>causing that dizzy, "like-you-got-up-off-the-couch-too-quickly" feeling

>>(Same effect really...) Not good for asthma sufferers or people who get
>>migraine headaches frequently.
>
>I believe you are right about the substance being either amyl or butyl
>nitrate, but the effects you describe are not consistant with my own
>use of the drug "RUSH"  (a little red bottle with the letters RUSH and
>and yellow lightning bolt on it)   I tried this drug in high school and
>found that it caused or at least seemed to cause an immense INCREASE in
>blood pressure or at least blood to the head.   All of the users of it
>flushing of the face.   For obvious reasons inhalants such as these are
>to be avoided.  (If you desire a long and happy life !)
>
>
>


 Initially, their would be an inbflux of blood due to the dilated blood
vessels, but then the pressure would drop becaue of relaxed vessel wall
muscle tone. I could be wrong about this...

St. Anthony
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: farif@halcyon.com (David John Kunz)
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:09:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.234829.20250@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Mark B. writes:

>How about Beethoven's 9th? Now *that's* some serious tripping metal!

>Mark B.

That's got to be the greatest piece of music in the history
of the world.  Sends me to some higher zone without any
chemical assistance whatsoever.  I can only imagine what it
would do to me *with* such assistance.  
-- 
farif@halcyon.com | farif@eskimo.com | finger for PGP 2.1 public key
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:57:19 -0500 
From: Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Golden Seal

Golden seal may not work because you have to take it for days becore the
tests, and you have to consume a lot. However, these statements are
mustered from heresay and rumors, I have never personally tried it. 

But there is something that DOES work. I have taken three drug tests
over the period of the last 3 months and passed them all even though I
smoke every day. I use herbal tea that you can buy at herb stores called
Naturally Klean. You make a gallons worth of tea and drink it all 3 to 5
hours before the test. It even has a money back guarantee that you'll
pass the test.


merlin
From: koch7243@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: <None>
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:00:26 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hey Everybody,

     I just heard the most wonderful news.  I will be going to Europe this
summer for around 8 weeks.  Old silly me has just had this dream about going to
the hash bars in Amsterdam, but I never thought that it would really happen. 
Anyway I was woundering if there were any people with personal experiences that
they would like to share.  Post them or send them to me about all experiences.
     Also about two months ago there was articule on the net that talked about
all of the hash bars in Amsterdam, and which ones were the best.  I hope that
someone could repost it so that I could get a copy of it.

                                        Thanks
                                              Lance

P.S  sorry about my spelling
From: tdodson@hotcity.COM (Tim Dodson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug Laws...
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:32:28 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <1jn167INNal2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O.
Olugbile) writes:
>
>In a previous article, aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile) says:
>
>>
>>I'm curious and I figure other people are too, about the various drug laws
>>across the country. If you are familliar with the drug laws in your area
>>please add this to the post. Eventually I figure it will be possible to
>>assemble the drug laws for every state in the nation. You might ask why and
>>I'll say it's because that's what usenet is for...;) shit like this. !
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Michigan I think is mandatory life without parole for selling or possesion.
>>but nothing that I can remember for use...what ever that means
>>-- 
>Date: Tue Jan 19 15:39:00 1993
>From: pluther@percy.rain.com (Pat Luther)
>Subject: Drug Laws...
>To: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu
>
>
>
>In California, I have heard (from those who've been busted) that possessing
>over 10 hits of LSD is automatically considered "intent to sell." And
>"intent to sell" LSD is a mandatory manslaughter charge.
>                               ??pat 
>btw, I'm sending this via email cuz I can't post from here this week.
>Feel free to post if you want.
>
>-- 
>Pat Luther: Lex's Evil Twin
>picard!pat@percy.rain.com <-- NeXTmail OK.
>pluther@percy.rain.com (sometimes quicker)
>luther@uop.edu (could take days, or even weeks)
>"If there's nothing wrong with me, then maybe there's
> something wrong with the universe!"
>-- 
>One can only truly appereciate moderation until they have experinced excess!
>Death to the weakling! Wealth to the strong!
>disclaimer:===> This is all a lie and I don't believe a word of it......!!!
Holy shit! ANyone, is this about LSD really true??? Damn, I had heard that you
would only go to Jail for drug possession, and the sentence is determined on
the weight of the drug, (so if you had LSD on heavier paper, it would be more
time) or in cube form you would get more time in Jail...that seems fucked, but
hell..I geuss there SHOULD be a difference in sentences for someone with a
HUNDRED hits compared to one, but thenagain someone could have a 5 hit sugar
cube of acid, and get more time then someone with 100 hits on
paper...hmm...isn't our legal system fucked..
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Dmso
From: tone@corral.uwyo.edu (TONY FOX)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:34:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming

In article <74054@cup.portal.com> Don_-_Showen@cup.portal.com writes:

>Since someone asked about info on DMSO,  I would like to share some of my
>info experiences with it.
>As a start it was outlawed by the same guy in the FDA who outlawed LSD.
>I heard it is sold in Europe as an over the counter drug.  It has many
>beneficial uses.  I used to drink it in the 70's, 1oz of DMSO in some
>grapefruit juice.  It oxygenates the brain and brings about a great feeling
>of calmness.  It also amplifies any drug taken.  It is a by product of the
>paper industry,  cheap.  The bottle I drank from said for external use on 
>horses and dogs only.  I think there is a book out on it called
>DMSO the persecuted drug, not sure of the title.  I have used it for sore
>muscles, and tooth aches.  It increases the oxygen supply to the area applied.
>There is a Doctor in Oregon who took an oz a day and all that happened is that
>his hair went back from grey to its natural color and he never had a cold
>again.  The breath does smell like oysters when taking it so its best to
>have eveyone in the same space do it.  I also heard it is what they transport
>hearts in when doing a heart transplant.  It supposedly is in the connecting
>tissue of trees and is what allows the water to go up.  Most of this is
>remembered from the seventies.  They were selling it in vacum repair shops
>around Calif.  Although I have heard it can be gotten at animal (horse) supply
>stores.  The only side effect is the bad breath,  but the increased effect
>of the substance ingested with it makes it well worth considering.
>DS

When was it made illegal?  I know as recently as a few years ago I bought 
some at a health food store.
      ----------------------------------------------------------------
      Tony Fox                         
      University of Wyoming              All things being equal,
      Comp Sci / MIS                       fat people use more soap.
      tone@corral.uwyo.edu
      ----------------------------------------------------------------
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