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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: Dallas 23 Washington 10
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 10:09:38 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep8.052459.2111@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> stapleto@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Kathy Stapleton) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.040752.4946@uwm.edu> melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill) writes:
>>
>>	Great first MNF game. Dallas has won 23-10. Washington looked
>>	pretty bad, not up to their Super bowl form, but I know the
>>	fans of both teams will have things to say about this game...
>
>     Does anyone out there have any ideas as to WHY the Redskins were
>not up to their Super Bowl form????

The only possible explanation I can think of is that the Redskins somehow traded
players with the University of New Mexico football team, which would also manage
to explain how in the world UNM managed to beat TCU on Saturday...

...and my roommate _does_ bear a passing resemblance to Andre Collins...

> I hear that Gibbs was saying that
>the offense has been very unorganized as of late...and even though I
>am a loyal Skin fan through and through, I cannot say even ONE nice
>thing about this darn game.  Not ONE!

It's over...

>  The touchdown made by the Skins
>was pure luck and I could not believe all of those open holes that the
>Skins defense let by so Emmett could strut his stuff to go another
>game 100+ yards...

Anyone get the idea that 'long about the third quarter, the Redskins began to
play "Let's see if we can kill Emmitt Smith?"  Not that I consider that a bad
idea, mind you; it's just that it's been a while since I've seen the Redskins
play quite so...cavalier in how they tackle.  Not that they were cheap shots,
but the hits were rather vicious compared to standard Redskin procedure, IMHO...

>  And I have NEVER NEVER seen the Redskin offensive
>line do such HORRIBLE blocking for Ryp....I remember last year...only
>*seven* sacks were allowed...  *Seven*!!!!!!!!!!!!  And this game,
>*two*?  Anyone have any explanations?
>
The only thing I can think of is that Noonan and Haley lined up in ths Skins' 
backfield...



-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) *  kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
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From: brian@intercon.com (Brian Lichorowic)
Subject: Re: Who will start for the Colt's at QB?
Reply-To: brian@intercon.com (Brian Lichorowic)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:06:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.165707.25034@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>, 
juodvalk@quanta.eng.ohio-state.edu (Vincent V. Juodvalkis) writes:


> Last I heard, Jeff George would be out 2 to 6 weeks of the regular season.
> 
> If the Colts cut Herrman and if George cannot play, who will start?
> 
> Tom Tupa (I hope so, but I'm sorta biased)... ?
> 
> 
> 
> -- Vincent
> 
> 
>  
After 2 weeks of working 1 on 1 with Trudeau.. Marchibroda feels that there 
is a very large talent gap between Trudeau & George  to Herrmann & Tupa.  So 
he let Herrmann go, keeping Tupa because of youth and his punting ability and 
also because he can run like jack rabbit behind the line..where as Herrmann 
is in concrete anyplace outside 3 feet around him...

As to who will start ?? It could be Tupa but plan on Trudeau..

Brian Lichorowic
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Madden sucks
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 11 SEP 92 15:03:37    

In article <1992Sep11.145302.8882@selway.umt.edu> sh666@selway.umt.edu (Wolverine) writes:
>How many of you out there think that Madden is the WORST football announcer
>on the face of the planet...  Here are a few of his classic quotes..
>
>'They don't want to get an interception at this stage of the game'
>Excuse me?  I wasn't aware that ANY team EVER wanted an interception
>at any point during a game...
>
>'They have to put some points on the board....'
>Again!  Madden astounds us with his excellent grasp of the obvious.

What this means is that this would be an particularly bad time to 
throw an interception and that it's especially important to score 
points at this time.  I believe it's harder than you might think to 
not say a couple of things like this when you're on the air for 3 
hours every week.  If Madden was saying stuff like "This would be a 
particularly bad time for an interception." he wouldn't have nearly 
the following he has.  And everybody knows what he means - even you, 
I'm sure, if you had thought about.

All this is aside from the fact that Madden is popular not because 
he's intellectual but because he's colorful.

>I could go on for years.. I was wondering how many people agree with me.
>I won't even metion last weeks game when he was pointing out people who
>knew how to have a tailgate party and those who didn't.  Oh well..

Segments like this are interesting to more people than you might think.  
I think there's an opportunity for a lot of humor there.

JGH
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From: kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Kaufman)
Subject: Can we please refrain from intermediate updates?
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:18:48 GMT

In article <1@bermaninst.com> arf@bermaninst.com (Anal Retentive Fan) writes:

> Bob Bigfoot just kicked a 33-yard field goal.  With 8:29 left to play
> in the first quarter, Oakland leads Baltimore 3-0.

In article <2@bermaninst.com> arf@bermaninst.com (Anal Retentive Fan)
writes:

> Baltimore just punted. Oakland has the ball on their 47.  Oakland still
> leads 3-0 midway through the first.

In article <3@bermaninst.com> arf@bermaninst.com (Anal Retentive Fan)
writes:

> First quarter update, Greasegrip was credited with a catch and a
> fumble, recovered by Baltimore on their 25, that I'm sure would have
> been overturned and called incomplete had the replay rule been in effect.

In article <4@bermaninst.com> arf@bermaninst.com (Anal Retentive Fan)
writes:

> Jesse Jumpstart, the left guard for Baltimore was just called for a
> false start.  1st and 15 on their 20.  Still 3-0 Oakland, 10 minutes
> into the game.

In article <5@bermaninst.com> arf@bermaninst.com (Anal Retentive Fan)
writes:

> Herman is scratching his balls in the huddle.  Madden missed it.

...


The above is a fictitious exaggeration of what some well-meaning souls
have been posting to the net.  Although it is quite nice that you would
like to keep others updated, you should realize that net.traffic is way
up now that the academic year has begun.  Some sites are having enough
trouble picking up and propagating articles without being deluged by
superfluous postings.  Had the running commentary of Week 2 games been
posted two weeks ago, this backwater site would have probably received them
within an hour or two of their posting at the most.  As it is, those
running updates from Sunday crept into our site Tuesday!  (And we're
only midway through the late games!)

I ask that you please don't burden the net with soon-to-be-obsolete partial
scores.  If somebody wants to post finals, particularly as a service to
our overseas friends, fine.  Just wait till they really are finals.

Don't bother to respond; I probably won't see it till at least Friday :-*
==Ken
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From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Subject: Re: Cowboys beat Redskins: 23-10
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:40:57 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Sep8.040802.3189@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
>In a game that showed that instant replay should still be used in the NFL, the
>Cowboys beat the Redskins at Texas Stadium on the first MNF game of the year.
>The Cowboys were clearly playing better than the Redskins from the offset.
>Charles Haley proved a great addition to the Cowboys by pressuring Rypien the
>whole game. The Cowboys had two (2) sackes of Rypien, but he was picking
>himself up off the ground after almost every play.
>
>Holt blocked a punt out of the endzone in the beginning of the game for a
>safety.
>
>Irvin looked a bit rusty dropping a couple of catchable passes, but he made
>some clutch receptions that kept the Cowboys going.
>
>Emmitt Smith looked GREAT. He had one (1) TD and around 130 yards in rushing.
>
>Aikman looked good. He had two (2) interceptions, but one of them was clearly
>a trapped ball and would have deffinately been overturned had instant replay
>been in use. There was no doubt that the ball had been trapped. That
>interception turned into a touchdown for the Redskins.

Aikman looked good? I would hate to see him when he looked bad. He was the
only Cowboy I saw that was having a bad time, though he did improve in the
2nd half. In the first half, he threw rockets that were at his receivers
finger tips, or wobbly ducks. His receivers made some great one handed,
streched out catches. I have to admit, last night's game was the first
time in years I was impressed with the Dallas receivers. Still the did drop
some.

And yes, 1 of Aikman's interceptions was trapped. Still that throw was so
poor, it deserved to be picked off.

>
>The Cowboy defense looked great. They applied pressure all night. The CB spot
>still worries me a bit. It will be nice when Kevin Smith is completely healed
>to see what he could do playing the whole game. 
>
>Next week it is the Cowboys at the NY Giants. 
>

Should be an interesting game. Let's see if last years 49ers curse works
this year. For those of you who don't know what the curse is, last year
15 of 16 teams lost the week after they played the 49ers. Wierdest trend
I saw last year. Really helped Dallas & Atlanta though. Dallas played
New Orleans & the Bears after the 49ers & Dallas won both.

Tom Wolf
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Early Games ... PARTIAL SCORES
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:20:13 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell

In article <1992Sep13.172331.30082@europa.asd.contel.com> ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com writes:
>Sunday, 13 September - EARLY GAMES
> 
>        Dallas          14                      Minnesota        0
>    1   NY Giants        0                  1   Detroit          7
>
>No score in Atlanta-Washington game ... Lohmiller misses a 29 yard field goal.
>
Dallas 34 Giants 28 Final
Saints 28 Bears 6  Final
Lions 31 Vikings 17 Final
Packers 31 Tampa Bay 3 Final


-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "I have great faith in fools - self-confidence my
   friends call it."        Edgar Allan Poe
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From: csm1@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher Scott Macri)
Subject: Jets win moral victory...
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:39:35 GMT

Sure they didn't get the victory, and it would be a lie if I said
"I couldn't be more pleased with their performance".All things considered,  
the Jets perfomed pretty damn well...

Nagles performance was spectacular for a first start. He later
claimed that his performance was not "veteran-like".Heh, I never
saw O-Brien so poised in the pocket ! Nagle can run too. His passes
for the most part, were smart and on the money. No lie, I couldnt
be more pleased with Nagle..

Lets get that replay rule back and sink Leahy into the fountain of youth 
and I think we got a ball club here!!

Put out the fire and call in the dogs, we're going to Pittsburgh!
GO JETS!
C.M.
From: daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Last Superbowl at Pasadena?
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:58:33 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

Help wanted with this question:

Who won the last Superbowl to be played at Pasedena?

Thanks!! 

Dave

--
Go Niners!!!
-- 

David Hastings                      | "Imposition of order=escalation of chaos"
VAX Systems Programmer              |                     
Oxford University Computing Services| "Just when you think you've won the 
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From: eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett)
Subject: Cowboys beat Redskins: 23-10
Organization: Abode Computer Services
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:08:02 GMT

In a game that showed that instant replay should still be used in the NFL, the
Cowboys beat the Redskins at Texas Stadium on the first MNF game of the year.
The Cowboys were clearly playing better than the Redskins from the offset.
Charles Haley proved a great addition to the Cowboys by pressuring Rypien the
whole game. The Cowboys had two (2) sackes of Rypien, but he was picking
himself up off the ground after almost every play.

Holt blocked a punt out of the endzone in the beginning of the game for a
safety.

Irvin looked a bit rusty dropping a couple of catchable passes, but he made
some clutch receptions that kept the Cowboys going.

Emmitt Smith looked GREAT. He had one (1) TD and around 130 yards in rushing.

Aikman looked good. He had two (2) interceptions, but one of them was clearly
a trapped ball and would have deffinately been overturned had instant replay
been in use. There was no doubt that the ball had been trapped. That
interception turned into a touchdown for the Redskins.

The Cowboy defense looked great. They applied pressure all night. The CB spot
still worries me a bit. It will be nice when Kevin Smith is completely healed
to see what he could do playing the whole game. 

Next week it is the Cowboys at the NY Giants. 

GO COWBOYS!!!

Eric


-- 
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     San Gabriel, Ca Internet: eric@abode.ttank.com

>>> HELP ME!! HELP ME!!! I am a COWBOY fan stuck in Ram and Raider Country <<<
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills are underdogs
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:52:53 GMT

In article <BuEzpL.H3w@acsu.buffalo.edu> SFRELIAS@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>
> 
>Your have to be kidding me. The Bills are much better football team then the
>Niners. Anyway we shall see what happen sunday.
> 
>I can't wait until we play Maimi and beat them again. It is always nice to
>squish that fish. We have enjoyed doing it for the last oh 5,6 years.
> 
>Go bills and show the niners how football is realy played.
> 
>Bills 31
>Niners 10

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!  Why is it that practically all knowledgable
football sportcasters, Vegas, coaches, etc., have picked the
Niner's as favorites?  Because they are a better football team,
that is why.  Even if they lose, the media will call it an upset!
Why can't you accept that!  Because you are on drugs! :-)
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "I have great faith in fools - self-confidence my
   friends call it."        Edgar Allan Poe
From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: VIKES KICK PACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 07:42:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <18jmaiINNq3g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mjb10@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael J. Bumbulis) writes:
>
>
>What about this new Linebacker, Del Rio.  Can anyone fill me in on this guy?
>And where did Browner go? 


Del Rio played with Dallas for the last two years where, I believe, he
led the team in tackles last year.  Some in Dallas were disappointed
to see him leave.  He seemed to me a rather solid player but not a
real "playmaker."

Gary Beason
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Buffalo Bills vs. 49er's
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 02:16:08 GMT

    A few days back, I posted all the reasons the Bills should lose
this game in an explanation of them being a 3 point underdog. 
Also, I picked this to be one of the Bills 4 losses (12-4 prediction).

Obviously the Bills overcame a lot and won.
This leads me to ponder ....

1) Is San Fran a Super Bowl team ??
I thought they proved themselves to be good by beating NY last 
week but after watching Dallas KILL NY and then NY come back, I'm
not sure which Giants team S.F. beat? I'm not sure whether or 
not they proved anything ??
Also they lost to Buffalo this week in a game they should've won.
They had Buffalo down and STILL lost.
No S.F. is NOT a Super Bowl team!

2) Is San Fran a playoff contender?
YES! They were pretty close in beating the Bills .... that's enough.
But they will have to contend with Philly, Washington, Dallas, Atlanta,
Detroit, and New Orleans ... too many tough teams to give S.F. the
nod ... they'd be lucky to make the NFC final.

3) Do San Fran fans still claim that the Bills defense is weak??
If so then theirs is non-existant.

4) How good is Buffalo this year? 
Well, originally I picked them 12-4 in preseason. I picked them to 
lose this game. They won. I'd like to revise my prediction to 13-3.
Here it is...

Rams @ Buf WIN 1-0
Buf @ SF   WIN 2-0
WEEK 3   Ind @ Buf   WIN   3-0
WEEK 4   Buf @ NE    WIN   4-0
WEEK 5   Mia @ Buf   WIN   5-0
WEEK 6   Buf @ Rdrs  WIN   6-0
WEEK 7   Buf Idle    BYE   6-0
WEEK 8   Buf @ NYJ   WIN   7-0
WEEK 9   NE @ Buf    WIN   8-0
WEEK 10  Pitt @ Buf  WIN   9-0
WEEK 11  Buf @ Mia   LOSS  9-1
WEEK 12  Atl @ Buf   WIN   10-1
WEEK 13  Buf @ Ind   WIN   11-1
WEEK 14  NYJ @ Buf   WIN   12-1
WEEK 15  Den @ Buf   WIN   13-1
WEEK 16  Buf @ NO    LOSS  13-2
WEEK 17  Buf @ Hou   LOSS  13-3

5) Will the Bills WIN the Super Bowl ?
It depends whether or not they make it. If they do, they are likely to
win, but as history shows, if the Bills have to play away from home
in the playoffs, they will probably lose. 
They could go into the playoffs with 2 losses back to back, that could
hurt. If they have to play the AFC championship in Denver or Houston
they could be in big trouble. K.C. could also mean a loss.

6) Are the same turkeys that rip up my other posts going to take a shot 
at this one ?
I hope so, it only made me laugh harder when I saw Cofer (?) doing
a Scott Norwood Super Bowl impersonation in a red & gold jersey!! Ha! Ha!


 
--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
From: estrella@src.dec.com (John Estrella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Hollywood Raiders ....
Keywords: Hollywood Raiders fans very quiet lately...
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:43:07 GMT
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center


...another reason to thank Jay....


...Jay keep the good work....


     John Estrella 
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 18:27:27 -0400 
From: Erik Karl Witte <ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: NFC West (was Re: 1992 NFL Predictions)
	<18eorvINNvl@agate.berkeley.edu>

Pissing in the wind?  That's what these bboards are for!

Let me defend myself.  The Falcons are a perenially good team.  They
always seem to win the games they're not supposed to win and beat the
teams they're not supposed to beat.  How do they do it?  I don't have a
clue, but they did beat the Jets.  Not having seen anything about that
game, I'll take what you say on faith, but I think the Falcons will do
well.  As for the referee calls, let's bring instant replay back!  That
sometimes helped the really awful calls.
As for the Saints, I fully expect them to do well, the same with the
Niners.  But at the end of the season, I think you'll see Atlanta
laughing its way into the playoffs after winning a really tight
division.  This will be one of the best divisions in the game, along
with the NFC East.  As usual, the NFC will provide the best games and
the best teams.
I'm not a football genius.  I don't memorize the stats or analyze every
player, but I see patterns and I see good teams.

So post your predictions.  The guy who posts the best ones gets to laugh
and gloat at the end of the season.

>You're welcome
How wonderfully gracious of you ... (just kidding.)  This board is fun,
get into it!

The knowledgeable observer
  Erik Witte

(Out of curiosity, what kind of name is Ashutosh.  Indian, I guess, but
I'd like to know)
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Isn't it time to change the name 'Redskins'?
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:18:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Sep11.214058.1888@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
>I don't believe that there are any racial intensions implied by the
>use of Redskins.  That era is long over with! Now perhaps if the
>name Negro was used, then perhaps!  Maybe the word Redskins was used
>in an offensive way decades ago, but I don't feel that it is now.

Well unless your part American Indian, you shouldn't find it in any
way offensive, because it doesn't pertain to you. However, using the
word Negro as a comparison is wrong, the correct term for comparison's
sake would have been Nigger, since both terms have their roots in
the same area(ie. a term coined by whites to describe another race
they considered inferior). If American Indians find the term and the
mascot offensive, who are we to tell them they're wrong?

I don't see the big deal about them being asked to change, Cooke was
asked nicely and refused, so now they're going to make a political stink
about it, and I don't blame them(the Indian coalition). All he had to
do is change the name, it would have had 0 impact on the team. Nobody
would stop attending games if they changed the name, nobody would 
stop buying team paraphernalia(in fact they would sell more since all
those who are still fans would buy new hats, pennants, posters etc,
with the new team name and mascot on it), nobody would be hurt in any
way, and the Native Americans would no longer be offended.

I realize football is not to blame for the heinous crimes committed
by the white man against the American Indians, but in the whole scheme
of things would it really hurt Jack Kent Cooke to change the name and
be done with it ?  

>After they change the name of the Redskins, Chiefs, and Braves,
>maybe an animal rights activists group will suddenly realize that a
>football team using the name Dolphins, will project the animal as
>being brutal and violent.  Why not, football is a brutal and violent
>sport right?  Where does it all end?

I hope the intent of this paragraph was not to equate anmimals with
human beings. Animals certainly aren't aware they are being lampooned,
Native Americans are.




Russ Smith
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