HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: SCIENCE@MITVMA.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Reply to Douglas Harper by Maoists
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:49:44 GMT

Douglas Harper reveals whose side he's really on by calling this
a "free country." We just finish a book review on U.S. backing
for fascism in southern Korea, and Harper concludes this is a "free
country." Not very good reading comprehension I dare say.

Next, Harper probably didn't read the book he is talking about
because it is filled with references to precautions taken! For that
matter, the author has the ultimate precaution because he did not
claim to be a communist! He claimed to be a religious practitioner!

In case Harper doesn't understand, communists were killed in Korea
with U.S. help.

Also, if Douglas Harper had read any of our newspaper, he would know
how many of us are in prison or have served jail time for political
reasons. He will probably never understand this because he
only knows what the Constitution says, not what the practice is.
If he hadn't gone around making excuses for U.S. colonialism
and saying this was a "free country," we dare say he'd know
more about what he is talking about.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: seody@eecs.nwu.edu (Dae Y. Seo)
Subject: Re: the 1st gold modal
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:43:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.165627.11537@news.cs.indiana.edu> Suh Jung Yul <jysuh@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>Yeo Gab Soon won a gold medal in women's air rifle
>competition on Sunday.
>
>J. Suh

   An 18-year-old Korean, Yeo Gab Soon, won the Games' first gold medal with
an Olympic-record air rifle score.
   Yeo, little known outside Korea, relaxed with deep-breathing techniques 
and surprised even herself by winning the air rifle with 498.2. That broke
the olympic mark of 498 set by Soviet Irina Shilova in 1988.

1. Yeo Kab-Soon,    Korea,          498.2
2. Vesela Nikolaeva,  Bulgaria,     495.3
3. Aranka Binder,    Yugoslavia,    495.1
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.japan,sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, please
Date: 24 Jul 92 04:00:28 GMT
	<BrGEA0.B8n@acsu.buffalo.edu> <BrH4xH.Kp6@world.std.com>
	<1992Jul16.115157.18220@alf.uib.no>
	<OKAZAKI.92Jul21050323@HPP.Stanford.EDU>
Followup-To: soc.culture.korean
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: okazaki@HPP.Stanford.EDU's message of 21 Jul 92 13:03:23 GMT

In article <OKAZAKI.92Jul21050323@HPP.Stanford.EDU> okazaki@HPP.Stanford.EDU
   (Shin'ichiro Okazaki) writes:

 =}Let us imagine we are using a computer.  Most OS has a hierachical
 =}directory of file systems.  Japanese addressing system is also
 =}hierachical.  You may go through step by step with asking directories,
 =}get closer, and at last you will reach where you want to go.  So it is
 =}conveninet for citizens just like file searching for those who know the
 =}structure of hierachical directories.

   But with all of the tangled soft links it can easily get confusing
without a good map...

 =}On the other hand, US addressing
 =}has a flat directory in a city.

   No, street names would be the next level.  And then block numbers are
usually set up to be the next level...  Sounds like chome and banti in
Japan...

 =}Imagine the OS whose file system has
 =}only one toplevel directory.  Now you can guess the advantages and
 =}disadvantages of US system.  

   If your analogy weren't so broken then that might be possible...

General Comment:

	I don't see what the fuss is all about.  Are some people to
	lazy to read a map?  Maybe some people are too cheap to
	buy a map?

	Street addresses, block addresses, ...  It's all the same...
--
PS:	Our network will be down for summer vacation.  It should be back
	up by August 4th...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: harper@oracorp.com (Douglas Harper)
Subject: Re: Maoist review of book on southern K. labor
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:17:27 GMT

In article <9207280113.AA02262@nettlerash.berkeley.edu> SCIENCE@MITVMA.BITNET writes:
>
>
>Written August 1991
>
>Maoist Internationalist Movement
>science@mitvma.mit.edu
>
>South Korea: Dissent Within the Economic Miracle
>by George E. Ogle
>London: Zed Books, 1990, 184 pp.

MC5, you continue to post without identifying yourselves.  Now you
misuse, for your own cowardly purposes, the book of an brave and
honest man I know personally and admire very much.

Stop it.

I saw George Ogle take risks openly in South Korea, then under the
dictatorial rule of Park Chung Hee, for what he believed in.  The risks
were real.  He was deported, and several of the people he worked with
were executed on trumped-up charges.

What a contrast to a gutless bunch in a free country who won't even
give out their names.

Feh.

-- 
Douglas Harper     | ORA Corporation | 301A Dates Drive | Ithaca, NY 14850 
harper@oracorp.com | (607) 277-2020  | FAX: 277-3206    | USA
Sigfile quotations available upon request.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: lim@rani.chem.yale.edu (Dongchul Lim)
Subject: Re: HANGUL FOR MAC!!
Organization: Yale University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:35:02 GMT

9125092l@lux.latrobe.edu.au (David Moon) writes:
: Hi..i am looking for a hangul word processor for Mac..does anyone know
: any FTP site which has this software?? Any help will be appreciated!!
: 
: By the way...what does the name Seon-Ho mean??
: 
:      /   |      \
:     /\ --|   -------
:    /  \  |     ( )
:      |____      |
:              -------                ok..that looks good enuf... :)

Just like "Huyn Gi" case, the meaning of "Seon-Ho" depends on
chinese characters of "seon" and "ho". My best bet is
"Chak-hal seon" and "Ha-neul ho", which means "good, nice (in
personality)" and "heaven, sky, broad(-minded)", respectively.
It's difficult to deduce the meaning without having chinese
characters.
-dcl


--
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* Dept. of Chemistry, Yale Univ. | Email: lim@rani.chem.yale.edu   *
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From: wrp@pslsrv1.gvl.unisys.com (Bill Pringle)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.japan,sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, please
Date: 19 Jul 92 02:16:41 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA

In article <1992Jul17.100514.24278@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.015905.13297@nevada.edu> nibber@nevada.edu (KEIKO SHIMMYO) writes:
>>
 [ deleted ]
>>The city is devided into small areas (like Kobe shi into many "ku").
>>Some of those areas are divided into smaller areas (such as "chome").
>>The smallest unit is usually an area along a short segment of a road.
>>It could be named "tamachi".  From one end of the road you start
>>numbering along the tamachi to the other end of the road without
>>going across. ... Around here my memory gets fuzzy.  I think at the
>>other end you go across and then come back, but this require 
>>somebody else's clarification.
>>
>>Actually I grew up in such a small town that did not require 
>>the house number at all.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I recall talking to someone who stayed in South America for a couple
of years.  In one town, the people could pick their own house numbers.
You could have 25 next to 500, followed by 4 !!  I don't believe
the numbers had to be unique, either.
============================================================================
Bill Pringle                      Software Tools
Paramax Corporation               Voice: (215)443-7500 X4023
Internet: wrp@ivy.unisys.com      UUCP: ...!uunet!mimsy!widener!gvls1!wrp%ivy
From: park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Yongsup Park)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: chat - similarities
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:34:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Jul30.172720.29664@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Sung Hyun Kim) writes:

>I think now we start to accept the
>idea that there can be many good universities in Korea.

Does this mean that people used to think that there is only one good
univerity in Korea ?  or does it mean there are few of them ?
And if the latter is what you meant, what has been changed ?

>BTW, I (and my alumni) experience many hardships in establishing the image
>of our school since still some people has that conception of "only one best"
>in their mind.

Yes, 'some people' thing.
Educational institution is a too broad a category to precisely define the
best.  In other words, the word 'best' has no meaning in this case.
If you want to find the BEST 100m sprinter, it's easy since it's well
defined.  And if definable, the BEST is always unique, as in mathematical
term.  And, you know, there had been a few good universities before KIT and
ther are a few good universities after KIT.

In my personal experience, KIT graduates are brilliant in general.
But as is the case with any group of people, there are some who are 
compatible with my tastes and some not.   If you believe 4+ years of 
education in college can form certain portion of the individual's 
character, then things I feel missing from KIT graduates stem from 
the lack of tradition which is not their faults.  

Yes, be proud and try to establish great tradition.
-- 
----
Yongsup Park                 / park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu / Why do I insist on
Physics and Astronomy Dept. / park@anmsd3.msd.anl.gov  / AT&T ?  Because they 
Northwestern University    / B40180@ANLCV1.BITNET     / hire physicists.
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Test
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:26:10 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL

This is test!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:29:09 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Women, I am about to launch a free electronic matching service on 
Usenet.  Unfortunately, more guys than gals have expressed an 
interest so far.  If you would like to see the fourth draft of my 
questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's needs as well as 
men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I posted in 
alt.personals.
 
This service is serious and I already have 119 men and 86 women signed
up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected and
programmers are being lined up for the construction of the listserver.
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make sure
that matches are compatible culturally.
 
                                                            Eric Klien
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Shin Chaeho and Chosun-sang-go-sa
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:05:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

woongki@syacus.acus.oz.au (Woong-Ki Chong) writes:
>
>I haven't heard of him being an anarchist, but if he was then it seems
>strange to me as there was no government in Korea anyway when he was
>around. Of course, he obviousely didn't like the rule by the Japanese
>government and he was chased around by the Japanese police most of life
>for that, but that shouldn't label him an anarchist should it?
>
>....or did he do or say some specific thing which makes him deserve to be
>called an anarchist?
>

Anarchism, as a political ideology, is a radical form of libertarianism,
which denies any form of political authority over the individual. 
Anarchists do not advocate situations like Beirut or Yugoslavia but
rather idealize a world where all arrangements and coordination is
carried out through agreement between individuals with no direct or 
threatened coercion. They'd probably see Beirut and Yugoslavian civil wars
as wars between de facto governments rather than a true 'anarachy'.

Anarchism was very popular among the early participants in the
Korean Independence movements. They denied the authority of the
Japanese who ruled Korea, just as they would have denied the
authority of ANY form of government that could use coercive
force (police, military, or tax collectors). 

Shin Chae-ho was a key organizer in several anarchist organizations. 
The names of those organizations escapes my memory at this moment.

-Han
From: hjkim@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re>Try VADA
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:46:03 GMT

The reason why I opend my Sun to the netters.

1) This vada hangul wp is freeware. The group HaNulSo was awarded 
10,000,000 won from one company or a computer assocication (?) 
for their attribution to this korean sociaty. They opened therir
software with a communication modem software IYAGI50 for free.

2) This software supports 9pin and 24 pin printer as long as I know.
I tried to print a file with epson fx82 9 pin and ep510 24 pin.
They worked fine with out problem. But I am  not sure if they work
on the other bland. If the printer is epson compaitble, why not work?

3) The pulldown Menu fo this software is almost same as that of AREA ah
hangul which is a commercial-copyrighted package. You can not distribute
the AREA ah hangul via a network.

4) If somebody bought better hangul software, no problem with it, and
you need VADA hangul. However this freeware VADA hangul is a good starting
software for whom do not want to spend money to buy a commercial software.
                                            
5) Eventhogh this is a freeware, the quality and the functionality are not
bad and enough to be useful for the private and plain writing.

With such and such reasons, I thought that it may be better to open
my account for the persons who do not have any hangul processor and want
to use it.        
 
This is my answer to the article 4554 posted by Sang Y. Yum

Thank you.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I always dream a dream that all the koreans are coorperative and like to
sacrifice themselves for their neighbours and do not give the side-money
to get a personal profit from that man.
                        
I always dream a dream that all the koreans are awaken against the
unrightnesousness committed by the ruling class on powerless people.

But I also always dream a dream that all the koreans are honest and be happy
when they are hungry for their doing justice.

IN ORDER TO DECEND THE BETTER SOCIATY THAN THAT OF THE PRECEDENT GAVE US
FOT THE NEW GENERATION OF OUR PROUD NATION KOREA
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jungs@tramp.Colorado.EDU (JUNG SANG-JIN )
Subject: Re: Olympic informations.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:46:28 GMT

>hello, netters!

>here in utah, it takes about a week to get a korean newspaper.
>nbc, of course, gives no medal stories of korean atheletes.
>could anyone post olympic update of korean medals on a regular basis?
>i heard that there are 2 gold medals so far and no siver or bronze medals.
>other trivias on korean teams will be greatly appreciated.

>thank you in advance.

HI!

You can get the updated informations by subscribe rec.sport.olympics.
by Yesterday, S.KOREA got 4 gold medals & 1 bronze medal .
S.KOREA rnaked as 5th place.
	
jungs@tramp.colorado.edu
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Nobody)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Test
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:32:19 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL

Test
From: hjkim@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: RE> ridiculous Health Insurance.....
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:50:05 GMT

From 1989, ( I am not sure), Auburn Univsersity (AL) required health
insurance to all of the foreign student.

 Now it is covered.
B
In the first year, Baby delivery was exluded but now it is covered.
Now I bought the insurance only for myself, and last year I got $260.00
from insurance when I spent $580.00 of health examination fee.

$3,200 of insurance seems to be so expensive, besides required to buy
for all the family, doesn't it?

 I want to hear the situation of other unversity.

Just for information..




 Spouse        $500.00 (including student itself)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: ckim@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Cheol Kim)
Subject: Re: T.V.
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:21:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.024122.3262@eng.umd.edu>, dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
> Running out of video games, I happened to rent out
> some K.T.V. video tapes with the recommendation of
> the store clerk.
> 
> The first one was 'KeumJanHwa - starring Hwang SinHye';
> I was so pissed and took them back to the store; and
> got them replaced - the progress of story line was so slow
> that I could not stand it.
> 
> The second one was 'YakSok (the promise)'; I was so impressed
> by the actress - 'Choi JinSil'. Her acting was so good; maybe
> I haven't watched enough; but it was the best among what I have
> watched.
> 
> Apart from the story, I never knew she can act like that; her character
> really dominates the whole series so that when she's dead, I lost
> the whole interest to keep on watching the rest - and yes, I have
> wasted the life time of my VCR head.
> 
> Can anyone recommend some good stuff?
> -- 
> 	Daeshik Kim	H: (703)273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
> 	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
> 	dskim@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: Maoist reply to Jeong-Gyun Shin on north Korea
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:49:52 GMT

In article <9207302224.AA05560@nettlerash.berkeley.edu> SCIENCE@MITVMA.BITNET (Maoist Internationalist Movement) writes:
>No vote necessary J-G S. We will gladly move to the DPRK as soon
>as you move to South Africa, you lover of colonialism you.
                ^
			    |
           ???????????

>Oh, but there is a problem with your plan. To get from the United
>States to north Korea, hmmm. You know in south Korea they don't
>let students cross the border to visit the north, much less
>move there.
>
>It's true this is all changing, but that just raises another point.
>
>We don't want to move from an imperialist country to a state-capitalist
>country. That would be no change in system for us. You on the other
>hand should be as happy in South Africa or lovely Bosnia/Croatia
>as here since you love capitalism so much.
>
>As a matter of fact, you anti-communists have a lot in common
>with Kim Il Sung: He is providing counterinsurgency aid to
>Peru, just like the United States. So maybe YOU should move to
>north Korea, since you are also an active anti-communist.

What is your point, mc5, if that is you, waiting for mc6?
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Responses to Choi and Harper
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:02:22 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <9207302002.AA02318@nettlerash.berkeley.edu> SCIENCE@MITVMA.BITNET writes:
>Both Douglas Harper and James Choi have decided to say nothing
>of SUBSTANCE in their attacks on us and instead "attack the speaker"
>as the term goes.

What did I attack anyway?  Do you consider "what is your name?" an offense?
You got something to hide?  Obviously I am no match for your superior
intellect.  You sound very much like Mr. Scott Horne except you are more
elaborate in delivering the same BS arguments.

>For Harper's and Choi's information (and we know it's a lot
>of people on the net who pay attention to WHO says what instead
>of WHAT gets said),

If you do not care WHO said it, then change "Maoist" theory to "outdated BS
of history" or something similar that does not include any name in it.

>for their information, we will gladly publicly
>admit to being cowards, eyesores and snots, but that says NOTHING
>about what we are arguing. 

How about, for my information, gladly publicly revealing your name although
it says NOTHING about what you are arguing?  

>We use the nets for debate, education 
>and information/analysis. We do not use the nets for self-expression, 
>self-aggrandizement--only class politics.

Self expression is for free people in free countries only.  Totalitarian
regime tend to rely more on "education of the people."

Anyway, I have different purpose for using this net.  It is for my
ENTERTAIMENT.  And it gets much more interesting when I find out who is
saying this BS so loud.  It will really amuse me tremendously to find out
who you are.  So, although it has nothing to do with what you are saying,
please be a good sport.  This way I get to see your face next time I am at
MIT.

James Choi
From: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com (Sang Y. Yum)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Windows Far East SDK
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:11:47 GMT
Reply-To: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Teradata/NCR

In article 711947254@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au, bob@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au (Robert G. Reid) writes:
>
>A couple of weeks ago I read of the Far East languages Software Development 
>Kit offer from Microsoft.
>
>I immediately mailed my response to this offer but so far no reply....
>I'm beginning to think that maybe I got the address wrong (although my mail 
>hasn't bounced...).
>I would greatly appreciate email from anyone who has received the SDK along 
>with the address used for Microsoft.
>
>Thanks.
>
>bob@psychol.utas.edu.au <Bob Reid>


You could call Microsoft Developer Resource Team
at (800)227-4679 ext. 11771.

Sang

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From: slbxk@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Korean Friendship Club
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:40:33 MDT
Organization: Utah State University



                   FRIENDSHIP CLUB

                   From the Editor
           -------------------------------


Dear friends,

     We are all far away from home, home town, home city, home
motherland. We each have the same dreams, dreaming about pursuing
a higher degree in education, accomplishing a wonderful task in
our own life, getting a satisfying job, climbing to a higher
class in life... But we feel lonely, terribly lonely, we need
friends, and love. Loneliness is like a killer, threatening us
every friday evening, saturday, sunday, holidays, even in daily
life. Why not let us gather together to get rid of loneliness, to
find ourselves companionship, to enjoy love or friendship! Let's
provide ourselves to the society and meet many people and choose
the one we want to be with, the one we love, but we have not met
yet.

     Good luck to all of you, dear friends!



                                       Editor


     P.S.

     For APPLICATION FORM please write to:

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     Or send inquiring to E-mail address at the top line of this news.

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