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From: iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (129-384320a-b)
Subject: Re: OH THE HUMANITY
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:16:25 GMT
Keywords: rise from geekdom

rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>adw3345@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.D. Williams) writes:

[...no doubt a Kodak(TM) moment:
>>
>> Why why why why why
>> why why why why why
>> why why why why why
>> why why why why why?
]
>ObAngst: there's something i need to tell a friend of mine so he doesn't get
>the wrong idea about something that he is really excited about, but he will
>think it's just me being jealous about his good fortune, and i can't think
>of a way to tell him without making him depressed or angry.

Perhaps you could dip into your Savings and purchase time on a Fuji Blimp,
run off a couple hundred flyers, perhaps a dozen billboard ads on his way
home from work/school/healthclub...  or tell him STRAIGHT (although he probably
_will_ be depressed or angry).

	In the former case, he may post here, and we'll get to read about it.
In the latter case, you might post here, and we'll get to read about it.

ANGSTangst:	as people of angst, we are riding a graph (single file), and
----------	at any given second, _ONLY_ one person sits atop the cusp of
		angst.  I believe my turn is yet to come.  This is dubbed
		the "single victim theory".

P.S.Angst.:  A.D.Williams may have reached that point in his previous post.
----------   We shall not know if there is life after reaching the peak of
	     angst.. or at least, if there is sentient life.

--
-ivan	Comments??  Suggestions??  Peanuts, Popcorn??
-- 
Plato said it best when he said that his opinions were his alone, and not
necessarily those of the CCSO.   ___________________________________________
__________________________	|Of course, that's why he's where he is,    |
iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu |	|and I'm where I am... but I agree with him!|
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: zeke@dante.uucp (zero kelvin)
Subject: Re: wimmin!
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:55:01 GMT
Organization: H&A Computer Services

ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge) writes:
: In <zlsiida.120@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
: 
: >In Lisdoonvarna (sp?) in County Clare (Galway?) in Ireland, they have a we'
: >ll-pair-you-up-fest evry year
: 
: Shit! *amazement* You got it *all* right. Not bad for a Brit.  
: 
: >But you've missed it
: 
: Yah. And the women are only interested if you've got land. And cattle.
: Or maybe sheep. 
: 

	well, if you have sheep then what the hell do you need wimmin[tm] 
	for, anyways?


-- 

-zer0 kelvin
From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: things that are true
Date: 27 Sep 1992 23:20:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu



Previously on alt.angst, sine nomine talks about 
some True Things (sorry, lost the reference thingy):

[truths deleted...]

Coincidentally, I have been keeping a list in my head of things 
that I have learned through personal experience.  I guess you could
say they're part of my personal set of rules, although they keep
changing.  Improving, I mean.  :)

> when you can't decide between two options, flip a coin and call it in
> the air. if you're disappointed by the outcome, you know what you
> really wanted.

My very first and most useful lesson was this very one.  One day
I was walking down Adelbert Road, Cleveland, Ohio, during one of
the darkest periods of my life, and suddenly I realized that my
instincts actually *work*.  Finding that instinct and having the
discipline to listen to it make everything else possible.

And a few of the others:

-- People basically just want you to listen to them.  

-- If there's any way you can avoid it, you shouldn't let money,
   or lack thereof, hold you back from doing something that's truly
   important to you.

-- Other people don't know how you feel unless you tell them.  Even
   perceptive people.

-- Most people, even people you don't like, or people who aren't smart,
   or young people, have really interesting things to share with you.

> sine | deb


Jeanne
From: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Are You a Misanthrope?
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:10:15 CDT
Organization: America, Planet Earth

	I have a good friend (who does not have internet access) who wishes 
to pose a question to this forum.  She is a serious naturalist who is 
concerned about her views concerning mankind's actions as a whole.

	To anyone who considers themselves a true misanthrope:  Why?  Why 
are you misanthropic?  What do you believe so much that you would term 
yourself as misanthropic?  What are your reasons for your beliefs?

	My friend has many misanthropic viewpoints, mostly related to 
humankind's destruction of the environment.  She wishes to supplement her 
viewpoints with others' after carefully analyzing each reason and opinion of 
those who respond to this post.

	I will print responses and give them to her, and allow her to respond 
through my or another account.

	Thank you!  :)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 David Caruso II                               Email: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
From: mrf12@cus.cam.ac.uk (Marcus Frean)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: adjective of choice
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:41:57 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:
>
>Occasionally I notice that a word has crept into frequent use in
>my every day vocabulary, usually a word I have known all along but
>rarely have found occasion to use.  I realized today that my 
>latest favorite word is:  
>
>                    VICARIOUS
>
>I'm getting ready to do *anything* (lizards, this does not mean you)
>just to feel *something*.

Uh huh, and what does it mean? I've been walking around for days with
a babes in toyland thing in my head - my recording is lousy and about
the only words I can make out are "...living vicariously...". It's a
very angstful song, and like all the best songs I'm not sure I want to
know what it's all about (in case it's something I can't get into),
but knowing what vicariously meant probably wouldn't ruin it...

marcus.
From: nexus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Abstractor)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: wimmin!
Date: 1 Oct 1992 14:27:25 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

zeke@dante.uucp (zero kelvin) writes:

>ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge) writes:
>: In <zlsiida.120@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>: 
>: >But you've missed it
>: 
>: Yah. And the women are only interested if you've got land. And cattle.
>: Or maybe sheep. 
>: 

>	well, if you have sheep then what the hell do you need wimmin[tm] 
>	for, anyways?

To ponder on the difference in experiences, of course -:)

>-- 

>-zer0 kelvin


the NEXUS
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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ivan Something)
Subject: Re: You asked for it
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:24:30 GMT

llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) said:
>Troy Terry (troyt@soda.berkeley.edu) opened up a can of beans with:

>: I have all these problems and nobody cares.  I guess it really
>: sucks to be me.  Bummer.
>rephrase: i guess it really sucks to be.
[...]
>sometimes i think that's why people fall in love; the rush of thinking
>that maybe you're essential to one other person,  [.....]

rephrase: i guess it really sucks (to me).

My problem wasn't so much *searching* for someone to be 'essential' to...
...I was a fine young calf, walking these grounds in a nice easy manner,
somewhat (though weakly) consoled in the fact that my future may be yet
bright...
	When suddenly, she spoke to me--
	and put in my head the very NOTION
	...that I had somehow *found*

..nono-- *stumbled* upon a person who would really, really see me as
kinda nifty.  Oh, maybe not forever.  Maybe just until senility.

We were symbiotic for about two years until the plug was pulled.
And then someone secretly replaced my coffee with Alt.Angst.!

-------------
you're both right-- you have no idea just how much more important
my problems are than anyone elses :)
-------------
>we may not be islands, but we're peninsulas.

Some people are just "anatomical-peninsulas".      [apologies to the
						    gender-impaired.]

--
-ivan

-- 
Plato said it best when he said that his opinions were his alone, and not
necessarily those of the CCSO.   ___________________________________________
__________________________	|Of course, that's why he's where he is,    |
iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu |	|and I'm where I am... but I agree with him!|
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: adjective of choice
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:33:14 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	For a male perspective (and a damn fine song to boot), try listening
to _Man's Best Friend_ by The Pursuit Of Happiness.  actually, the whole album
is pretty nice to listen to.  good female harmonies.  and I also recommend the
Barenaked Ladies, not because they're particularly angstful, but because
they're great.  kinda like 10K maniacs on some songs and overall a mix of all
kinds of nifty styles

ps:  My friends think I'm trying to look cool because I don't shave.  I keep
trying to tell themn it's because I'm lazy.  also, my face breaks out in a
rash and typically only half of that rash goes away and the rest stays as
acne.  but they don't believe me.  

-- 
   /I\          Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
 /IIIII\        "Leave EVERYTHING to ME!" - Powdered Toast Man       
/IIIIIII\       Give me SLACK or give me food (or kill me).
From: magnus@solaris.astro.uu.se (Magnus Selhammar)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: numb
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:05:57 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: solaris.astro.uu.se

- I have been tranformed into a cockroach.

- Have you seen a doctor about this?
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Zen and the art of anomie
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:45:29 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	I am happy to add a new word to my vocabulary (tho I'm stunned that I
didn't hear it until today).. anomie!  as defined by Durkheim (the soul behind
holiday suicides 8) it's the loneliness caused by a society of individuals who
are islands unto themselves, and the alienation caused by lack of interaction
with these individuals..  It's a big part of American culture, and I would
imagine English culture as well.  Don't you find it strange how you can be
standing packed like sardines in a subway car and yet be totally alone?  we
dont' find it strange, but many other cultures would.  That word describes
perfectly how lonely it can be even with friends and contact with other
humans.  And futility angst can stem from knowing there's so many people out
there but you can't contact even just one.  
	My suggestion on lessening the impact of anomie would be to try and
nullify the self (a la Zen Buddhism) and annihilate mental pain by
annihilating the pesky big-brained (thanks, Kurt) interpretive self.  This is
what I try to do, in fact, but frequently fail to do since I lack the years of
training and culture patterns of a Buddhist, and yet I still try.

-- 
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  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
 /IIIII\        "Leave EVERYTHING to ME!" - Powdered Toast Man       
/IIIIIII\       Happiness is a warm gun.
From: Benedict.M.Wightman@cm.cf.ac.uk (B M Wightman)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: tiredness.
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:37:02 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff

In article <10687@wrgate.wr.tek.com> denisec@amadeus.wr.tek.com (Denise Caire) writes:
>I think men are referred to as "confirmed bachelors."  Sounds positive,
>doesn't it?  How positive does crusty old spinster or old maid sound?
>Now that's real parity for ya.  Denise

Err, I think "Confirmed Batchelor" is frequently taken to mean non-married by
persuasion rather than opportunity.
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-------- PhD Student in Meddling In Things I Do Not Understand ---------
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From: zeke@dante.uucp (zero kelvin)
Subject: Re: wimmin!
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 20:11:43 GMT
Organization: H&A Computer Services

ABienek@acorn.co.uk (Alex Bienek) writes:
: In article <BuxDsx.7vp@midget.yps.saar.de> boerp@midget.saar.de (John Boerp) writes:
: 
: >But what do you do when everywhere you go and with all
: >the people you meet you get the feeling that you don't belong to this
: >particular place or the people?
: >
: 
: The options aren't good:-
:                        
: a) Accept it, and spend most of your time on your own
: 
: a) Become a hermit/monk (much the same as A)
: 
: c) Invent a fully functional cryogenic storage system, program it
:    to wake you some long time in the future and hope that when
:    you awake the planet will be a more bearable place to live,
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	left alone, things will only get worse -- that's the
	second law of thermodynamics, son -- it will never
	be "more bearable"

:    or that you will have the opportunity to try another one.
: 
: ObAngst: Every had the feeling of being stranded on Earth ?
: 
: Alex.
-- 

-zer0 kelvin
From: dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Pat Buchanan
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:48:12 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In <BvGBDn.Er1@umassd.edu> pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman) writes:

>    In a recent column, Pat Buchanan referred to a "pre-born child." Does this
>mean that Buchanan is a pre-dead corpse and that steak is pre-fecal matter?
>The possibilities are mind-boggling.

I prefer to think of Pat B. as "pre-human" or perhaps even "pre-mammalian."  
But the "pre-corpse" option does sound mighty cheerful.
--

Tom Dennis                    |  I looked into the abyss,
dennis@alexia.uiuc.edu        |    and the abyss looked into me--
tadg0614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu     |      and we both winked.
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From: matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (Matt Hopkins)
Subject: Re: tiredness.
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:52:55 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-13330]: crawfish.math.tulane.edu

In article <1992Sep28.145241.1804@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rfarmer@nyx.cs.du.edu  
(Rex Farmer) writes:
> Unfortunately although I like to be left alone, without any human contact at
> all I spin off into chronic depression.  I need some people around to anchor
> me.  One great feature of chronic depression is that all experiences become
> flat and joyless.  Which kind of takes the fun out of being alone.  I want  
my
> friends to _share_ things I enjoy, both to give them pleasure and to give us
> things to discuss.

Wow.  I have been thinking this EXACT same thing for the past two or three  
days.  I spent the summer going out and frolicking, but now I am "hitting the  
books."  I have orals to study for, and the only way *I* can do it is to  
pretty much ignore the rest of the world.  This includes friends, family, room  
mates, etc... So I end up a.l.o.n.e. for months.  When I am left this alone it  
seems I only dwell on the depressing things in my life.  ("I don't have  
this/that.")  And, of course, it just snowballs.  The only good (hah!  I don't  
think sooooo.) thing is that this makes me very intense about my work.  I get  
tons and tons done, but I'm pretty much miserable the whole time I do it.   
When I'm done, though, I sometimes think "wow, that was fun, I love learning".   
Hmm.

What rambling.

Matt

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      not around." - Barfly  "Hey mister! Throw me some beads!"
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (T.S. Eliot)
Subject: Re: random screams
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:27:11 GMT

In article <81037@ut-emx.uucp> llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>
>i hate discovering that everything i've ever wanted is half a
>continent away.
>
YOU hate discovering that?  How 'bout those of us on the eastern
seaboard that can't make your miniangstcon?   :)

Granted, Virginia isn't precisely half a continent away from Texas,
but it might as well be.   ;)

tj (toj8j@fermi.clas.virginia.edu)
From: mak@spuddy.uucp (Mark Kellaway)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: What do you want to do with your life
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:12:11 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain

In article <BvEIH8.900@nic.umass.edu> EDIAS@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (EMILIANO A DIAS) writes:
>"What do you want to be/do when you grow up?"
>
>When I was young I used to get asked this question A LOT.
>
>I used to reply, I wanna be: an electrical engineer, a computer engineer,
>a math teacher, I don't care I just want to be happy,... 
>(the reply depended upon how old I was when I was asked the question.
>
>Now that I've grown up, I have NO idea what I want to be/do.
>
>I look at people who have specific interests (i.e. political aspirations,
>the desire to teach, the need to write, etc) and I'm jealous because
>I don't seem to have any "higher purpose", no goal that I'm working hard
>to acheive.
>
at one stage i thought i had a purpose - i wanted an academic career but when
doing my phd i realised this wasn't what i wanted so dropped out.

>All I seem to do is try to enjoy myself right now (in the present).
>
thats the philosophy i took up - it kinda works but i find that these days its
more a question of occupying my time, all the time im with friends or doing
something i enjoy im having a great time. but when i get to those queit
reflective moments i fell the need for a purpose - how empty all this 
pursuit of pleasure really is - and other such thoughts.

>I would really like to someday wake up and think, "Hey I know what I want 
>to do!"  and have it be something so great to me that I'll work incredibly
>hard to acheive (or at least want to work hard)
>
>Maybe that's the problem in my life:  I've never had to work hard to get
>anything or to understand anything.  Anytime I've had to work hard for
>something I've deemed that something undesirable and given up trying to
>"get" it.
>
Having had a purpose that didn't work out and now without one all i can say
is that there is no easy answer. that purpose has to be something that you can
keep working at without ever giving up or reaching it.

>     loafing around with no purpose...         Tony Dias

just loafing... mark kellaway
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From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Collapse of so-called civilis(z?)ation in Britain
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:03:57 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Stephen Grossman (pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU) wrote:

:   There's the tiny matter of The Rolling Stones....(and I'm a fan).
:   And let's not forget an Austin-Healy 3000 I once had which was more likely
: to refuse to turn off than to start!!! I recall many damp mornings walking to
: school singing Rolling Stones tunes.
:   And just precisely what is "blood" pudding? What th' 'ell is wrong with you
: blokes? A bunch of right wankers (I got it from Phil Collins on "Miami Vice."

the exspousoid used to build race motors, including lotsa little
british car things like bug-eyed sprites and stuff. he used to bitch
ceaselessly about the company that made their electrical systems, which
he called "lucas, prince of darkness." the claim was that the british
like warm beer 'cause they've got lucas refrigerators.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"all of the parts falling off of this car are of the finest british
workmanship" -- sticker on a friend's mgb
From: iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (WEENIE!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: wow, does anyone else do this?
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:23:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

>Oh, you did it now. Next week I can hear your angsts.
>1) I hear this funny popping noise on my phone that was never there before.
>2) This black sedan keeps following me.
>3) There's this flower shop van parked outside my house ALL the time.
>4) I want Jodie Foster. :)

OK now let's summarize what we've accomplished so far:

hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu
cygnus@oahu.cs.ucla.edu
machala@spdc.ti.com
..and throw in iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu for kicks..

have made it on a list of oh-so-important people with microphones in their
respective rooms, cars, toilets...

see?  stick with angst and you'll go places :)

> [..thoughts about angst...]nuke the Capitol 
>building when the house and senate are in session. Voting doesn't seem to work:) 
OH like that'll help..  at best we'd have 2 or 3 new faces - come next term.
me-doubts attendance is very important nowadays.

--now if someone nuked the surrounding restaurants while the house and
senate were in session.. 

--
-ivan	[let me end by saying that I don't condone nuclear attacks for
	personal reasons anymore.  I used to, but that was then, and this
	is now.  There are _no_ such things as bad wire~|%taps.]@~~

-- 
Plato said it best when he said that his opinions were his alone, and not
necessarily those of the CCSO.   ___________________________________________
__________________________	|Of course, that's why he's where he is,    |
iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu |	|and I'm where I am... but I agree with him!|
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: ...OK, OK, WE'RE ALIVE, DAMMIT, WE'RE ALIVE!!! =)
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:17:29 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Sep28.220335.379@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:

> How many of you know you're ALIVE? 

I know I'm alive coz it hurts
> 
> how many of us are content to work 9-5 every day, 
well i'm in the office, but am i working?

> go home, grab a cold beer, 
> and sit in front of the television watching stupid commercials
British commercials are quite good sometimes

> whilst our frozen dinner is nuked in the microwave? 
My wife does a brill lasagne
But I have to do the washing up

> hoping for that raise which never comes.
I got my Grade3!!!

> 
> how many of us choose to wallow in the mire of apathy
> while the biased media and the corrupt politicians and the government
> feeds us line after line of bullshit which we so heartily devour?
No, I learned to juggle.  Flashes of happiness when you suss a new trick.
More angst when you go for the next trick.

> how many of us stop to think, 
> to contemplate our mortal existence,
> to ponder our eventual demise,
> to be aware of the fact that we are *alive*
> and wake up from the stupor of this artificial fast-food culture???
does reading alt.atheism and alt.suicide.holiday count?


              Have another day    [Armageddon, the musical] 
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