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From: dholdswo@flare.ua.oz.au ()
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pistols
Date: 5 Nov 1992 07:28:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Adelaide, South Australia
Reply-To: dholdswo@flare.ua.oz.au ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: flare.physics.adelaide.edu.au


>        AS far as the pistols are together, maybe this time they will
>        give credit to Chris Spedding for writing their songs and playing
>        instead of Steve Jones.

Spedding's involvement came about after at least three quarters of "Never mind
the bollocks" was written. While I'm not prepared to say he didn't play on that
album, I doubt very much he wrote any of it. Glenn Matlock explains how alot
of the songs on the album were written in his book.

>if I remember my pistols lore correctly Glen Matlock was the
>original guitarist and Steve Jones was their bassist, then McLaren
>switched a lot of stuff around and the infamous line up was as we all
>know it.....

No. The original guitarist was a guy called Wally (Can't remember his surname
at the moment). He was responsible for writing some of the older songs that
appeared as b-sides (eg. Did you no wrong and Satelite). Wally formed the band
with Steve and Paul Cook. They went through a few bass players and then linked
up with Glen, who they met because he worked at Malcolm McLarens shop. Steve
was originally the vocalist. He started learning guitar. Eventually he
became quite competent, and when Malcolm started managing them, they gave
Wally the boot and got Johnny Rotten to do the vox. Glen later quit and Sid
the great joined.


--
*************************************************************************

     Dave Holdsworth. email: dholdswo@physics.adelaide.edu.au
       Dept. Physics & Math Physics, University of Adelaide
From: kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y. Kawado)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Identify Smiths' song
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:50:12 GMT
Reply-To: kkawado@ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y. Kawado)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Nov6.162838.15414@b11.b11.ingr.com> cottle@b11.b11.ingr.com (Tim Cottle) writes:
>I need some help identifying a Smiths song.  Its probably four or more years
>old.  It starts out with a strange, whining guitar part, which continues
>intermittently through the song, and is backed by an industrialish background
>beat, which continues through the whole song.  The first line is "I am the
>sun, and the air..."   What is the name of this song, and what CD can it be
>found on?

This is "How Soon Is Now?".  The lyric is really "I am the son, and the
heir, of nothing in particular".  It can be found on the Meat Is Murder
CD (Sire release, not Rough Trade) or on the Hatful of Hollow CD on
Rough Trade.  The single has also been re-released and should be in
most record stores.

Also, has anyone noticed that the "This Charming Man" CD single is being
yet again re-released with the same songs, but without the "limited
edition" stickers?  This re-issuing thing is getting pretty out of hand.
Hopefully they'll stop soon :-).

=K=
Kevin Kawado

>
>
>Tim
>
>
> --
>
> |  Timothy A. Cottle                  |                                    |
> |  Workstation Systems Development    | Did you understand the music, Yoko,|
> |  Intergraph Corp.                   | Or was it all in vain?             |
> |  Huntsville, AL  35894-0001         |                                    |
> |  cottle@gman.b11.ingr.com           |                  --Roger Waters    |
>
>
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Is Therapy? good live?
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:11:22 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

Has anyone seen Therapy live?  Are they worth seeing?

Thanks,

Chris
From: RAV106@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Van Morrison
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:56:34 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Are there any Van Morrison fans out there?
From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: >>NoMeansNo
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:29:18 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov11.035349.21423@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ed.Holzwarth@launchpad.unc.edu (Ed Holzwarth) writes:
>Mega Evil writes:
>  I agree: I have Wrong and the Sex Mad/You Kill Me CD, and I have heard
>"Victory"... Is "Victory" on _Live & Cuddly_ because I like that song a
>bunch...  I should just get athat album anyway, since everyone has
>recommended it so much...
>
>Ed
>
I don't have _Live and Cuddly_, but I DO know for a fact that you can find
"Victory" on the _Small Parts Isolated and Destroyed_/_The Day Everything
Became Nothing_ CD.  Moreso than anything they released since, there's a
greater emphasis on songs of the 10-minute variety on this CD, but it is
a great CD.

greg
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robey Pointer)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins Lyrics
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:51:44 GMT

gorf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Craig Collister) writes:

>I've studied a while, and came up with a listener's version of the
>lyrics to "I wear your ring". Let's work on this a little together
>and see if we can agree on what it says.
>Remember: This is not official.

>Could be reason, money with your momma
"You could be raising money with your mama" is what I always assumed here.

>Beutiful heads up no way dyes
>A means of love and sounds and go
>beloved...
>It is written and by reason
>Rain or sick, spawn on
>Pleased to be, give a good affection new...

I can't follow this part at all... tho I do hear "made him so useful"?
Oh wait, ok, this is the latter part... sounds mostly right.  So you skipped
the middle... on purpose?

>Finally finally finally...
I always heard "phyla phyla.." like in biology.  :)

Good work overall!
robey
-- 
Robey Pointer               | "The perfect kiss"  -New Order, "Perfect Kiss"
rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu  | "Find the river"  -REM, "Find the River"
IRC: Robey                  | "It's not my birthday"  -TMBG, "It's NMB"
From: relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:34:25 GMT
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l

In the referenced article, Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne) writes:
>The only MBV news I've heard recently is the the band have signed to
>Island label. Given the time thet spent making Loveless, I'm not
>holding my breath for any new releases. At least Island might be able 
>to afford them unlike Creation.

Creation Records US have just released a compilation video including
videos and interviews with Primal Scream, Ride, and yes, My Bloody
Valentine.  As one might expect, the videos are as indistinct as the
music, but they're not too bad, all told.  They are, however, very
similar to one another, for the most part.  Four MBV videos.  Four
Ride Videos.  Altogether too many Primal Scream videos.  (Do they
really believe that their poor Stones imitation is a re-invention of
music?)

	-- John
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:06:26 EST
From: Alan R. Heyd <IA8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins

In article <1992Nov5.153711.29782@bnr.ca>, saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) says:
>
>Anybody knows of any albums from the seattle group 'Smashing Pumpkins'.
>
>
I'm pretty sure they are not from Seattle, I think that they are from
Chicago.  Am I correct on this?

Anyway, here is everything that is available by Smashing Pumpkins
on CD.  (I may have missed some 5" CD single, however, I'm not sure.)
I've been told that they also have some 12" singles on vynal.
One of these singles is of "I Am One", the other "Tristessa".


Gish -- 1991  --  Caroline
   - I am one
   - Siva
   - Rhinoceros
   - Bury me
   - Crush
   - Suffer
   - Snail
   - Fristessa
   - Window paine
   - Daydream

Lull --  1991  --  Caroline
   - Rhinoceros
   - Blue
   - Slunk
   - Bye June

Peel Sessions  --  1992  --  Hut
   - Siva
   - Girl named Sandoz
   - Smiley

I am one  --  1992  --  Hut
   - I am one
   - Plume
   - Starla


Smashing Pumpkins also have tracks on the following collections:

Afternoon Delight * Love Songs From Sub Pop -- 1992  --  Sub Pop
   - La Dolly Vita

Singles soundtrack  --  1992  --  Warner Bros.
   - Drown

20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions -- 1991 -- Pravda
   - Jackie Blue


If you know of any thing I may have missed, please let me know
so I can add it to my list.

Alan Heyd
ia8@psuvm.psu.edu

I know this doesn't belong is this group, however, I
thought I could sneak it in at the end here:

FOR SALE:  Mudhoney - Piece of Cake - $9.00 ppd.
           Alice in Chains - Dirt   - $9.00 ppd.
From: laub@cs.sun.ac.za (DudE)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Anyone listens to Violent Fems?(Give opinions)
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:19:05 GMT
Organization: UoS

I think this is a cool band,like there music alot!
Favourite : Vol 3
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From: hudson@csa1.lbl.gov (ERIC HUDSON)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: SCREAMING TREES rocks San Francisco 11-10
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:34 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.196
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

LUNA was OK, I think they have potential. But no competition for the HEAVIEST
band around.

The Trees pretty much blew away a sold out crowd at Slims's.  Blistering 
versions of "Alice Said", "Nearly Lost You", "Ivy" (tribute to the Stooges?).
For the final encore they erupted with "End of the Universe", and they 
just about melted at the end.  Don't miss this band!!!!!

P.S. It's hard to believe that Gary Lee still has fingers if he plays like
that every night!

===============================

ERIC HUDSON			"Tomorrow Never Knows"

HUDSON@LBL.BITNET


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Subject: Re: Fugazi
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:17:59 GMT

I heard a rumor, from a person in D.C., that Ian recently left the
band...but i somehow just don't lay faith into this one yet.
From: chmilar@apple.com (Michael Chmilar)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: NoMeansNo
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:50:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

For the person who just discovered NoMeansNo:

Albums (all worth getting):

    Sex Mad (CD includes the "You Kill Me" EP (is this right?))
    Small Parts Isolated and Destroyed (CD includes "The Day Everything
        Became Nothing" EP and is sometimes called "The Day Everything
        Became Isolated and Destroyed")
    Wrong
    Live + Cuddly (Live from concerts in Northern Europe)
    2 + 0 = 1
    A collaboration with Jello Biafra, but the name escapes me right now.
       NoMeansNo did the music, Jello did the singing.

You can probably also find tracks on various compilations and movie
soundtracks.  Other posters have already mentioned the new "Hansen Brothers"
album that is coming out.

I am not sure of the current status of "Mama" which was their first recording,
when the band was only bass and drums.  Cassette tapes have been available
of this.  Unfortunately, the master tape for Mama was stolen or destroyed,
so it would be difficult for them to release this material on record or CD.

The status of the band, as I understand it, is:  they are defunct, because
the guitarist didn't want to do it anymore.  However, they may reform to do
the odd gig or recording - maybe even a new album, if a previous poster is
correct.  I guess the summary of this would be:  don't expect to see NoMeansNo
as a regularly touring or recording entity.

As far as live performances go, they kicked ass!  What do expect?  They were
certainly one of the tightest bands I have ever seen (which I did, as I recall,
four times when I was living in Calgary, in nice, small clubs).

Their popularity in Europe far exceeds their popularity in North America,
and they eventually started doing Europe-only (or at least Europe-mostly)
tours after Wrong was released.  (There was a two-year gap between Calgary
performances after they toured for Small Parts, and Calgary is pretty close
to Vancouver, where they were based.)

Oh yeah, Rob Wright (bassist/singer) apparently sometimes does solo gigs as
"Mr. Wrong".
From: hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (David Hudson)
Subject: Re: Mary's Danish Question
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:03:14 PST

In article <1da1sjINNijm@cs.widener.edu> ASHENFELTER@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (BRIAN ASHENFELTER) writes:
>
>	I just got done listening to Mary's Danish latest album "American
>Standard" and was pretty impressed. I saw them on the Tonight Show about a week
>ago (they did "Underwater" and another song) and might go see them in Philly in
>two weeks.  What I was wondering was how long have they been around and how
>many albums do they have? And how do these compare to their lastest?
>
>Thanks,
>Brian 

	They have been around since '87-'88.  They are an L.A. band and
the two lead singers went to Berkeley and then transfered to UCLA.  They
have three albums and one EP out.  _There Goes the Wondertruck..._ is
their debut.  Then came the Live Experience EP.  They signed to MOrgan
Creek records and put out Circa last year and just recently put out
American Standard.  I prefer the two previous albums, but they have a
different sound than the latest one.  American STandard is
straight-forward rock where the others are more diverse outings.  They
are a fantastic live act (I've got my tickets for this Saturday in
L.A.!) and they are worth seeing.  Buy all their stuff because all three
albums are great.
					Dave
From: arw@cs.nott.ac.uk (Andrew Roy Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: NIN - Pigface.
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:10:53 GMT
Reply-To: arw@cs.nott.ac.uk ()
Organization: Nottingham University

In the NIN section of my local record shop there are a few albums by a band
called Pigface. According to the shop, the band is mostly made up from 
ex-NIN members. Does anyone know what Pigface are like??
 Also in this section was a record produced by NIN but the name of it and
the band responsible escape me now...
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: c188-am@po.berkeley.edu (Leor Jacobi)
Subject: Re: Screaming Trees?
Keywords: sceraming trees
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:57:52 GMT

buechi@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen P Buechi) writes:

>Hey there. This is my first post to this newsgroup. I was wondering what people
>out there thought about the Screaming Trees? I heard their song in the 
>'Singles' soundtrack, and thought it sounded pretty good. Just curious as to
>what other people thought of the group and their album (s?). Post or e-mail
>me at the address below. Thanks!

>                                     Steve Buechi
>                                     buechi@autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu
>                                                 or
>                                     v129mcel@ubvms.bitnet      (VAX)

I saw them open for Redd Kross about a year ago.  They were great.
- played "Bed of Roses" twice - very classy.
AC/DC meets REM.

--
 Leor Jacobi                ,__o  | "I don't know that atheists should be 
 leor@ocf.berkeley.edu    _-\_<,  |  considered citizens, nor should they by
 c188-am@po.berkeley.edu (*)/'(*) |  considered patriots.  This is one nation
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|  under God."   -   George Bush  8/27/88
From: eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Viva...Del Santo!
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:39:30 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University, UK

In article <92317.093938MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> 
                     MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murphy) writes:

>I have the album _Too Much Pork For Just One Fork_ but was unaware of new
>or forthcoming material from this band.  _Too Much Pork..._ is a scream!
>Tell me more about their new material.  Who's putting it out?

Peel played the 7" several times, about a month ago.  I never quite
worked out the names of the song/band/label, but the name Zontar or
Zoltan or something like that comes to mind, so maybe that's the label.

Lindsay.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin)
Subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:05:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.153711.29782@bnr.ca>, saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
|> Anybody knows of any albums from the seattle group 'Smashing Pumpkins'.
|> 

Well, I don't know about a Seattle band name "Smashing Pumpkins", but there's
one from Chicago by that name.  I'll assume this is the band you mean.

Go buy "Gish" immediately.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: 10,000 Maniacs book
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:57:37 GMT


In the book about 10,000 Maniacs, look at pages 8-9. See how the drummer
always has this really weird smile on his face? Isn't that peculiar?

Now look at the group photo in the Hope Chest album. Look at the drummer.
Look at the expression on his face.

Could this be signs of a masonic conspiracy?

(I know you're wondering how to get this book; I think you have to
contact the fan club.)
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lineber@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jerry M. Lineberry)
Subject: Morrissey in San Antonio
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:06:06 GMT


Hello,
    Someone was complaining about the Morrissey concert in Dallas. I found
his San Antonio concert to be great. He was on stage for about a hour and
20 minutes.
    The openning act sucked and so did the intermission music but, who cares. It
didn't hurt his preformance at all. Although, I wonder where in the world did
he find this awful band to open for him. They were called 'Big Sandy & five
rockers' or something like that. They sounded like rejects from the 50's.
    In my opinion, I think he likes having bad talent open for him. So he
will sound a hundred times greater than he usually does. After hearing the
worst, the best even sounds better.

-- 
--------------------------------Jerry M. Lineberry-----------------------------
lineber@lonestar.utsa.edu
71221.3015@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: TMBG - SHUT UP!!!
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:01:07 GMT

scocjk@thor.cf.ac.uk (Christopher Kyle) writes:

>Will you please shut up about They Might Be Bloody Giants. This is an
>Alternative music news-group, TMBG are NOT Alternative
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Piss off and take your mindless, pointless affirmations ("Yes for me" -
>shut up) elsewhere

Well, this sounds like a "YES" vote from you, too.

Thanks for your support.

-- 
Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pixies YES - Breeders NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:13:44 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.


	Well..the final sessions ( voices ) for "Trompe le Monde" were
	completed in Paris while the band was touring France ( mainly )
	and England. According to Gil Norton , Black Francis already had
	all the songs for the next album ( "Trompe la mort?" ) ready. 
	Yup.black francis did say something "I wrote 70 songs for the Pixies
	and the others did not. So i am the one who leads" . I remember
	that on stage Black Francis Seemed really upset at every little
	"wrong break" or mistake made by Kim Deal, also i had this weird
	feeling ( did anyone had it too ? ) that she had a HARD hard time
	following the RYTHM on most of the new songs ( technically speaking
	...) particularly on "Planet of song" . Also according to Gil Norton
	, during the last sessions for Trompe le Monde, Black Francis would
	spend most of his time in the studio, changing things , doing
	takes and takes for vocals. 

	I am curious , did anyone here see any of the Black Francis solo
	show in London or in the US ( back in 1989 ) ? i have only heard
	bad things about it ( well..the only things i read were those NME
	reviews)

	O.
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 18:27:24 -0500 
From: Karl Anthony Smeltzer <ks5z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: NoMeansNo


Have you heard any of their older stuff, like the songs Dead Bob, Hunt
the She Beast and others, great lyrics is right.

Roses are Red,
Violets are Blue,
I hung myself,
So Fuck you.

--ks5z@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (KOTSINES  THOMAS ANT)
Subject: Re: BURNING AIRLINES
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: world,local 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:56:49 GMT

>Try looking in the back pages of Rolling Stone and Spin.  If it's still
>in business, it'll be there.  If it isn't, there are others.
>
>Back in '85 I ordered some stuff from B.A.  Good stuff, but I've since
>been dropped from their mailing list.  Damn!
>      
Thanks for the help...since I posted someone has emailed it to me...

it is (for anyone interested)
Burning Airlines
Dept SP36 box 3757
Trenton, NJ 08629

[/]

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: scq6817@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: The Swirlies.     (My Bloody Sebadoh)
Reply-To: scq6817@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:46:20 GMT

FINALLY...
i knew the swirlies were popular overseas but they have little following in the states
i saw them in boston this summer....they opened for jawbox and some other band i forgot....anyway they put on a great show but that was the last i;d heard of them...i picked up a 7 inch at the show ( its great too)
i haven't heard the new ep tho....how is it?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Subject: Squirrel Bait
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:34:39 GMT

I've been looking for ever and I finally found an album by Squirrel
Bait.  These guys sound sorta like Jawbreaker/Husker Du/Doughboys.  I
was wondering if anyone knows if they have anything else out other
than "Skag Heaven"?  The album that i found was on Homestead Records.