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From: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Judge kills (Was Re: Tour stories...)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 21:46:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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>Well, when I was marching with San Jose Raiders back in '82,

Raiders survived that long? I marched in the Knight Raiders
back in 76 & 77.

Too strange...

Greg

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From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Tour stories and the BAC
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:26:46 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec15.133745.6937@hubcap.clemson.edu>, rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) writes:
> knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites) writes:
> 
>>I also took out a judge in 1990.  I am not talking about bumbing him, I
>>am talking about knocking him on his butt!  What a rush!  I had one of
>>my better shows that season because my adreneline(sp) really started to
>>flow.
> 
> When I was little, running into a judge was a big rush, but when I got
> to Suncoast we were told to say "excuse me" if you hit a judge.  Not to
> mention the fact that often you run into them moving backwards and end
> up on your butt with about 5 people on top of you real quick.

We also, have been instructed the last few years to say "excuse me". We get to
practice while the marching staff walk around in the middle of rehearsal. That
doesn't mean that we don't talk about our 'kills' amongst ourselves, though! ;)
(our staff did give us an out...if he didn't hear, or it was to quick to
prevent, just run 'em over!)

I remember the time in '89 quarterfinals when Judy got in my way.....pity, they
ALMOST got it on tape.

Brooke
From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Posting problems
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:26:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

dapack01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>Could someone please help me.  I would like to share a large document with the
>drum corps community; however, when I perform funtion CTRL Z to send or
>actually post the document in the newsgroup, it does not accept it.  I thought
>it might be too long; therefore I split-it-up.  This didn't work either.  I
>observed other files or postings and some are quite long.  Can any one help me
>with this problem.


Well, although will not pretend to know your system, I will share with 
you what I have to do to post or follow-up articles.

    CTRL X  CTRL C   for posting original articles


    CTRL XS  CTRL XC  for follow-ups


Good luck,

Ken
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: dapack01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: <None>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:36:29 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Once again I am having trouble posting part #2 of this document.
From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Getting access to ram.drumcorps
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:23:57 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu

For those of you who haven't gotten r.a.m.drumcorps or r.a.m.misc, I have
two suggestions:  

1. you must have a file called .newsrc that stores the list of all newsgroups
that you have access to.  Someone posted that they were able to get r.a.m.**
by editing that file and adding the newsgroups manually.  I have experimented
with this and found that it works.  Do the following:

a) go to your favorite editor, (emacs, vi, etc.) and load in the file .newsrc

b) add lines that say:
	
	rec.arts.marching.drumcorps: 1-150
	rec.arts.marching.misc: 1-400

to the beginning of the file.

c) save the file

d) log out and log on again, try your ReadNews again.  It is possible that
they will now appear.


if this doesn't work, I suggest calling your local News Administrator
and asking them if they can check into adding these groups.  They may need
more information, such as a post from the Newsgroups.  In that case,
post a message and one of us who has access to both will send you a sample
article.

I hope this helps.

I will repost this in January after Xmas break for users gone for Xmas.


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From: chester@maple.circa.ufl.edu (NAME)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Suncoast
Date: 10 Dec 92 16:59:35 GMT
Reply-To: CHESTER@oak.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: Center for Instructional and Research Computing Activities

Hello out there from FL!

I'm new to "news" but not to corps.  I'd like to hear from Suncoast Sound 
vets and talk about yesteryear!

				Look out in '93 - 
					Russ
From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: DCI CD'S
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 10:14:17 EDT
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
Reply-To: chinchilla!niel@cars.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <481@blue.cis.pitt.edu> (alt.drumcorps), mfbst1+@pitt.edu (Michael F Barko) writes:
>	I am a big DCI fan, and I just discovered this newsgroup!
>	Does anybody out there know if the 1992 Finals Compact Discs
>	have been sent out yet?  I would appreciate any comments!

My brother just got his.  I haven't heard them yet, though.

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Anthony Maas)
Subject: Re: Tour stories and the BAC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:08:00 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In Blue Stars, round about 1989, the drumline was working a part prior to DCM(I think) during our hour block we bought on the field at DeKalb.  It was about time to be done, but not quite, and the next corps in line began to move their stuff into the pit area and began to set up color guard equipment along the front line.  Even though we were told to be as courteous to other corps as possible, the center snare decided to take exception to the other corps' actions.  A couple of sets into the move they were 


practicing, the entire drum line usually came to within about six steps of the front sideline.  Well, the next time they went through the move the color guard suddenly found an entire drum line charging for their new spot - THREE steps inside the pit area!!!  I've never seen a color guard move that fast in my life! The horn line almost died laughing!  Oh, to be under 21 again...

Tony Maas
IBM Rochester, MN
Blue Stars 90-91
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From: fxr9483@hertz.njit.edu (Franklin E. Rachel CIS Dude)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Tour stories and the BAC
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:35:34 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Boy does that name ring some bells (speaking of judge Judy Tomko)..
She was a teacher in my high school.. and once had me busted by the cops
for throwing rocks when I was in 6th grade!

Anyhow, now for the drum coprs related stuff:

Its most likely a FAQ, but I need the number to order the CD's of the
championship shows..

-Frank
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Subject: Re: DCI CD'S - PART II
Reply-To: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:11:38 GMT

In article <851@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, mfbst1+@pitt.edu (Michael F Barko) writes:
> Good news,
> 
> 	I just received my 1992 Finals Compact Discs!!  I'm listening
> 	to them right now, and they sound FANTASTIC!!!  So, if anyone
> 	is still waiting, they should be coming soon via UPS!!
> Mike 

I called DCI today, hopfully for the last time, and they said most CDs were sent
out this past weekend but they are still sending a few out this week.  I have a
feeling that mine is one of those few and I won't get them by the time I leave
ISU on Friday.  I don't think I can wait until Jan. 15 to hear thm when I get
back either!!!

One Final left tomaorrow at 7:30am!

Andy Combites
Cavaliers '92-'94
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: What happened in '74?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 17:54:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In articles alt.drumcorps:2743 rec.arts.marching.drumcorps:112, 
rlmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Randall L. Miller) wrote (What happened
in '74?):
 
|>      I was just wondering what happened to 27th in '74? They came
|>in 7th in '73 and 20th in '74 and then 4th in '75. Something was different.
|>Does anybody know?
 
Seventh place jinx, anyone?  For the first 4 years of DCI, the seventh
place corps fell out of finals and the next two years, they dropped
a couple of places, giving rise to the legend of the 7th place jinx.
This jinx is now dead, having last struck the Crossmen in 1983.
 
|>All I hear is stories of hatred and some old corps songs slamming
|>the 27th. Stuff like, instead of saying the number 27 during excercises just
|>(or) just screaming for that moment. And yes, I still recognize "BAC"
|>despite the changing times.
 
If you want to know the particulars, ask Tom Lizotte, your horn
caption head.  He was marching during that period and should remember.
He would know exactly what happened to 27 in 1974 (I think they lost
their horn head that year).  He was also an instructor at North Star
when I marched.  He should know all the stories about the 27-North
Star rivalry.
 
Oh, and tell him hello for me.  He should remember me, too.
 
Vince
From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: test
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:11:17 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Distribution: world
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Originator: fath@mbcrr


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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Anthony Maas)
Subject: Re: A question.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:37:13 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

I do not yet have access to r.a.m.m or r.a.m.d.  I work in Rochester, MN, but our news server, so I've been told, is in Yorktown(don't know what state).  Nothing I can do about what groups get added to our list, so I haven't seen them yet.  Any hints?  Pls post replies.  Thanks.


Tony Maas
IBM Rochester, MN
From: mfbst1+@pitt.edu (Michael F Barko)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: DCI CD'S - PART II
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:59:30 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Good news,

	I just received my 1992 Finals Compact Discs!!  I'm listening
	to them right now, and they sound FANTASTIC!!!  So, if anyone
	is still waiting, they should be coming soon via UPS!!
Mike
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: informal survey
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:12:27 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov22.055522.2326@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> (alt.drumcorps)
sradeker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Radeker) wrote (Re: informal survey):
 
|>In article <1ejs0mINN9j4@early-bird.think.com> fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
|>>>    Here's an informal survey for those of you interested.  Many corps have 
|>>>songs associated with them, Madison and You'll Never Walk Alone, Sky Ryders - 
|>>>Over the Rainbow, etc, etc.
|>Well, I will always love Spirit's 'tradesong' "Georgia On My Mind".  Spirits
|>fortunes may be falling, but their song will never fall...
 
To which rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) responded in 
article <1992Nov22.221529.22627@hubcap.clemson.edu> (alt.drumcorps):
 
|>I've always liked Suncoast's corps song, The Greatest Love of All.
|>If you listen to the words you see how much this song relates to
|>drum corps.
|>
|>Every time I think about the words to that song, I get a real feeling of
|>warmth and accomplishment.
|> 
|>Some other corps/song associations I can think of:
|> 
|>SCV : Send in the Clowns
|>Phantom : Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral
|>27th : Danny Boy
|>North Star : Sir Duke
|>Garfield : O Holy Name (although I don't ever remember them playing this.)
|>Troopers : How the West Was Won
|>Boston : Conquest
|>Star : When You Wish Upon a Star
|>Freelancers : Even Now
 
Here are my associations:
 
Spirit: Let It Be Me, Old Man River
 
North Star:  Sir Duke, yes, but 2 other songs were played more by
the corps: Ole' was played at all 3 finals appearances (1979-1980) and
Killian (Killion?) was the opener 3 times the corps *didn't* make finals
(1976-1977, 1982).  We always thought our theme song was "When You
Wish Upon A Star, which was the bridge in the 1976-1977 versions of
Killian and the warmup in 1978.
 
SCV:  Fiddler on the Roof (esp. Bottle Dance), Young Person's Guide
to the Orchestra (which *always* won them a championship), and
Appalachian Spring (which *never* won them a championship but helped
Garfield beat them).
 
Phantom: In The Hall of the Mountain King from Pier Gynt (sp?) Suite
and New World Symphony.
 
Troopers: Battle Hymn of the Republic
 
Boston: Havah Nagilah
 
Freelancers: Bellavia
 
Vince
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
From: vesposi@csws11.ic.sunysb.edu (Vincent Esposito)
Subject: Re: Judge kills (Was Re: Tour stories...)
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:23:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.130218.9453@iscsvax.uni.edu> dostal2060@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>Brooke, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on the "excuse me" thing.  I
>have marched with you for two years and *not once* have I ever been told to say
>"excuse me" for bashing a judge or a staff member.  Not to mention that it's a
>little difficult to do this while playing, which is what normally happens.  
>
>I LOVE 'kills'.  I just never seem to be a part of them.  Once this season,
>however, the Colts had a move in drum solo with 4 lines passing through each
>other like this:
>
>                * * * * * * * 
>                              * * * * * * *
>                * * * * * * * 
>         --->                 * * * * * * *
>                * * * * * * *                <---
>                              * * * * * * *
>                * * * * * * 0   X
>                              * * * * * * *
>
>The judge was at the X and managed to go up through the whole thing and get hit
>*several* times.  Me being the 0, I got him first.
>
>I guess that shows how we think about 'kills'.  We never want to forget them
>for some reason.  And "excuse me" hardly seems appropriate at the time.
>
>Merry Xmas
>
>Jack Dostal

  I haven't had a full scale "kill" since my senior corps days (the drum 
was in spot as usual, but I knew he was there so I made shure to tag him real
hard).  In the Crossmen, I winged a drum judge in 91 when the mellophone line
was jazz-running across the front of the field, while the timbales (actually
the tenor line after a change of drums) were coming foward towards us.  The
percussion judges usually got trapped in that one, but this time he came too
close.  To make matters worse, we had just put in a new arm visual, so he
nearly got to eat my mellophone.  I gave him a good tap though, and didn't
even lose momentum at a 4to5 jazz run.

We too were told to say "excuse me", especially at the beginning of the show,
so the judge wouldn't hold a grudge for 11.5 minutes when he/she got hit. 
However, off the record, we were told that at the end of the show it's open
season, that way they have time to recover between corps and won't go through
the whole show thinking "they ran me over, Santa Clara wouldn't run me over!"

disclaimer:  the only reason I used SCV in the above example is because they
were the first corps to come to mind.

---Vin---
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Crossmen 91-92 Mellophone/Soprano
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
From: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Subject: Re: A question.
Reply-To: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:48:34 GMT

In article <w3eXVB2w165w@willard.UUCP>, dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
> 
> > Quick question:   Is there any alt.drumcorps reader that has not yet
> > gotten access to rec.arts.marching.drumcorps?  It sounded like a few
> > people had to actually change their .newsrc to get it but that they
> > eventually could get it OK.  If there are still problems, please post 
> > and we can try to help out.
> 
> Those of you lucky enough to be near or on the Internet probably have
> fewer problems than those of us (yes, us) who lie farther down the heap.
> I still don't get ram.drumcorps (neither here, at my home BBS, nor at
> work).  Of course, I've not yet chased down the problems with my current
> feeds... some of which have been notoriously bad for missing posts and
> entire newsgroups in times past.
> 
> The answer is for us to seek a new newsfeed.
> 
> > 
> > -- 
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> 
> 
> -- 
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It's funny you should mention this.  I sometimes don't recieve posts either.  I
check the group everyday at least once, but there are times when I know a post
dosen't come in.  Is there anything I can do about this?  Do the rest of you
have thsi problem?  Please post or email me.  Thanks

I AM DONE WITH FINALS!!!
Andy Combites
Cavaliers '92-'94
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: Tour stories and the BAC
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:56:28 GMT

rlmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Randall L. Miller) writes:

>     I will certainly miss it too. I liked being serious at retreats.
>     You should see us at parades around Boston :) I love being on the end.         
And how.  When I was a youngster, we used to march parades in a
formation known as the "geek killer".  It was a wedge-shaped block that
would often get unsuspecting spectators marched over as they moved in to
look at other things.

Another one of my favorite parade moments was when one of our marching
tymp players (yes, that's right, we used to *march* those things)
marched over a cameraman from one of the local TV stations.  They actually
had the nerve to try to bill us for the damage to the camera.  (If I
remember correctly, in the final analysis we got an apology and a free
paint job for all of our tymps.)

Later,
Bob

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From: vesposi@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Vincent Esposito)
Subject: Re: informal survey
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:18:44 GMT

In article <18349806@um.cc.umich.edu> R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
> 
>SCV:  Fiddler on the Roof (esp. Bottle Dance), Young Person's Guide
>to the Orchestra (which *always* won them a championship), and
>Appalachian Spring (which *never* won them a championship but helped
>Garfield beat them).
> 
>Phantom: In The Hall of the Mountain King from Pier Gynt (sp?) Suite
>and New World Symphony.
> 
>Troopers: Battle Hymn of the Republic
> 
>Boston: Havah Nagilah
> 
>Freelancers: Bellavia
> 
>Vince

And Don't forget that until recently the Crossmen had 
Russian Christmas Music (it was the corps song in years
before I joined)  It was always a dream of mine to
play russian christmas on retreat at allentown for my
ageout year, too bad it didn't happen <sigh>.

Also, in years to come, better get used to associating
Paul Winter's "Under The Sun" with the Crossmen,
the brass caption head loves it, and so do all the vets...

---Vin---
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Crossmen 91-92 Mellophone/Soprano
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
From: rlmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Randall L. Miller)
Subject: What happened in '74?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 05:03:00 EST


	I was just wondering what happened to 27th in '74? They came
in 7th in '73 and 20th in '74 and then 4th in '75. Something was different.
Does anybody know? I'm just curious about 27th being from BAC and all.
All I hear is stories of hatred and some old corps songs slamming the
27th. Stuff like, instead of saying the number 27 during excercises just
screaming for that moment. And yes, I still recognize "BAC" despite the
changing times.

Randy
BAC 91-???

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rlmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Randall L. Miller)
Subject: Re: Tour stories and the BAC
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 05:32:07 EST

In article <sf7vWxW00Zk2M_fEYE@andrew.cmu.edu> "David E. Gardner" <dg4c+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>	I'm sorry to hear that the BAC is changing it's image.  My rookie year
>had an interesting run-in with the Crusaders.  I march with the
>Bluecoats, and '90 was my rookie year.  It was sometime in late June or
>early July, and we were in a DCE show in Philadelphia,  at the U of
>Pennsylvania.  We wre lined up in retreat block under the stadium.  By
>the quick of my drill number I got to be on the end of the block.  The
>rows in front of me had gone into single file, and my line didn't have
>room so I was sticking out as a corner. Along comes the BAC marching by
>in single file.  I felt a contra brush against me. The second and third
>contras hit me a little harder. The one after that  put a solid shoulder
>into me and my the time I was realizing what was happening, the last
>contra had passed.
>	Early August, Erie PA.  BAC contras lined up for retreat block,
>Bluecoats marching by in single file.  I purposely wandered out of the
>line "bumped" into the end contra before getting back into line.  I
>heard him swear and threaten me, but as we were marching around the
>track, the intervals between each Bluecoats was only a step or two. The
>BAC wsrunning about 3 - 5 yards between members.  The contra never
>caught up with me.  I felt lucky and excited at my "revenge."
>	Anyway, I just don't think it will be the same if the BAC don't do
>their psycho-corps-from-hell stuff like being nasty, mean and way too
>serious in general.  I'll certainly miss it, it was fun to watch.
>
>
>David, Bluecoat baritone line '90-'93


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