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From: gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Mass Transit and airports (was: Re: O'HARE)
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:50:00 GMT
Reply-To: glenns@eas.gatech.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Group W Bench

In the referenced article staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers) writes:

>The *BEST* part about OHare is that I can take the train directly INTO the
>terminal.  Cuomo, Dinkins, are you listening?  Its not confusing.  Get on
>the ONLY train that goes to Ohare, and take it downtown to the Loop.  If
>you need to go to Wrigley field or Evanston, its one change of trains.  If
>you need to go to see the White Soxs, its one connection as well.  How 
>difficult is that?

I can top it.  Atlanta's Airport MARTA train station is also inside the 
terminal, costs less (one measly semolian rather than $1.50), and runs
from there to the underground portion of Peachtree Center, which gets you
covered access to all the major convention hotels save the Hilton and the
Omni (the latter of which is accessed via a freebie train connection, and
has its own station).  Going to the Braves game?  Nab the shuttle bus at
P'tree Center for a quarter extra (don't forget your bus transfer, it's free,
too).  Oh, yeah, unlimited-trips two- and three-day convention passes are
available at the Five Points ridestore, and, I think, at the airport. 

Box of jelly donuts says New York will NEVER get trains into the airports....
the taxi drivers would revolt.  They nearly did here in Atlanta. Then, 
of course, there's DCA's solution to the political problem:  The Metro
station is at the airport, all right.  At the other end of the long term
parking lot.  

Anyone know what BART is doing these days airportwise?

--
Glenn R. Stone (glenns@eas.gatech.edu
"Please move to the center of the vehicle and away from the doors." 

p.s.  Never will forget the day when both the Dead and some huge business 
convention were in town... all of them packed on the trains hanging from
the rails and both the businessmen in their three-pieces and the deadheads
in their tie-dyes looking and thinking wow, look at all the funny people.
From: billo@oaks81.UUCP (Bill O'Neill)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Florida->Tokyo->Florida
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:20:42 GMT
Reply-To: billo@oaks81.UUCP (Bill O'Neill)
Organization: Hagen Daz Research Institute Athletic Dept
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.2 R4

Looking for cheap fare from Tampa, Florida to Tokyo and return for this August.
Before I call a travel agent or spend an hour talking by phone to JAL or UNITED 
reservation agents, does anybody know of anything good that might apply?

Appreciate the any help. And please send e-mail to the address below.
--
Bill O'Neill  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
oaks81!billo@misty.sara.fl.usa  .  .  .  .  ....uunet!misty!oaks81!billo
From: jcm@cfm.brown.edu (Javier Cruz-Mena)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Courier tickets.
Date: 10 Apr 1992 21:06:44 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sparce.cfm.brown.edu

	Does anybody know of agencies offering courier airplane tickets for travel
between Boston to Europe and/or Mexico?
	If the subject is not of general interst, please e-mail me to the address
shown below.
	And thanks!

	javier cruz mena.
	jcm@cfm.brown.edu
 

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: praim@connext.ucs.sfu.ca (Praim Sankar)
Subject: Re: BUMPS
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:09:29 GMT

---------------------------------------------------------------

Is it possible to volunteer to be bumped while checking in?
Or is it better to wait until they ask for volunteers?

Last winter flying AA from SEA-ORD-SJU-POS ( Seattle to Port of Spain)
the aircraft was already taxiing to the runway when thay said there 
was a weight restriction and they were overweight. The plane returned to
the terminal and they  asked for 13 volunteers to deplane.

In return they would get $500us , a night's  hotel accomodation in 
San Juan, taxi to and from the hotel, 2 meals, and guaranteed
booking on the next flight tp POS. When only a few volunteered they 
raised it to $600. That's when my family of 4 stood up. My child's fare
was only $500US. We spent a night in a first class Radisson hotel 
on the beach, had the luxury of room service, swam in the ocean next day
then left SJU after lunch.   

We are using our voucher next Aug. and we are praying we get bumped again 
and again and again!!!!    
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: jruiz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jose Ruiz)
Subject: Question about selling tickets
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:57:23 GMT

     I have a question for anyone who can answer me.  I have a round trip 
ticket from Columbus, Ohio to Salt Lake City, Utah, and will not be using the 
return portion (the flight makes a stop in Chicago O'Hare).  Is it legal to try
to sell that portion I won't be using?

     I'd appreciate any comments.
-- 
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Jose Antonio Ruiz             E-Mail address: jruiz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Ohio State University Libraries                                (614) 292-6151
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,alt.support.cancer
From: sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey)
Subject: Re: Bereavement fares no longer exist
Keywords: What do we do about sudden illness/death?
Organization: The Leaning Tower of Patterson Office @ The Univ. of KY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:45:41 GMT

I guess you'll have to take the train, or drive. It just may not be
possible to get where you want in a small amount of time.

If you do take an alternate means, be sure and write the airline and
tell them what you did, and why. They'll take it quite seriously.

Sean
-- 
                  |``Wind, waves, etc. are breakdowns in the face of the
Sean Casey        | commitment to getting from here to there. But they are the
sean@s.ms.uky.edu | conditions for sailing -- not something to be gotten rid
U of KY, Lexington| of, but something to be danced with.''
From: h2co@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Candace O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Bereavement fares no longer exist
Keywords: What do we do about sudden illness/death?
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:12:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.5353
Followup-To: rec.travel.air, alt.support.cancer
Distribution: usa
Organization: Portland State University, Computing Services

Hello.  I am posting this article to both alt.support.cancer (where I 
imagine there are people other than myself with very ill relatives) 
and rec.travel.air (where I hope someone reading will have an answer).
I suggest followups to both groups.

My mother is suffering from highly metastasized malignant melanoma; the
doctor gives her two to six months to live.  My grandmother (to whom I
am very close) will be (in May) 105 years old.  Although I can't make
an advance purchase for the occasions, it is clear to me that I will have
two funerals to attend in the forseeable future.  I live in Oregon; my
mother and grandmother both live in Connecticut.

I just heard a piece this morning on NPR about the new fare structure
for the airline industry.  In the interests of simplicity (I figure that
translates into increased profits), the airlines have done away with a
lot of formerly available special fares, including for the clergy, and
the military, and senior citizens, and people who have to get home
suddenly for a funeral.

Can anyone suggest a strategy for getting around this?  By way of example,
could one purchase a ticket that allows schedule (date) changes and
just keep changing the ticket every week?  That may sound like a stupid
idea, but it is the only possibility that has occurred to me thus far.

I have read the FAQ post in rec.travel.air.  Included are addresses for
consumer input (including complaints) for many airlines.  It seems to me
that it cannot hurt to write letters about this issue to all major
airlines.  I am thinking about this issue now because I have to.  But
the need for a bereavement ticket could strike anyone at any time.  
I shouldn't call it "bereavement".  What if my mother is rushed to the
hospital and things look bad?  Unless last-minute fares have come down
a great deal because of this "simplification", I'd probably be paying
(just a guess) $1,000 or more to fly to Connecticut.

I will greatly appreciate any hints.

btw, the rec.travel.air FAQ post is, not surprisingly, out of date on this
issue.  But it is also mistaken about how much it costs to travel with
a pet on United Airlines.  I know because I wanted to fly with my rat.
Don't ask me why, I had a good reason.  Anyway the ticket agent told
me that there is a charge of $100 each way to fly with any animal on
United.  Any animal, including this one that can fit into a briefcase
and presents no "barking hazard". (i.e. this was not an anti-rat
policy in particular ;-) Plus the cost of the airline-approved container 
(which I don't mind, would have bought that anyway).  Just so you know.

Candace S. O'Connor
Biology Department

h2co@odin.cc.pdx.edu
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Bulgaria/Hungary to Japan?
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:14:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr8.191420.26987
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University

Are any flights available from Bulgaria or Hungary (presumably Sofia and
Budapest) to Japan (Tokyo or Osaka)?  Balkan Airlines started serving
Bangkok a few years ago; perhaps there's a cheap connexion from there?

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
ZANG4 HAN4 YI4 JIA1 / GONG4 JIAN4 ZHONG1HUA2!
From: steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:29:52 GMT
	<1992Apr11.033944.18218@odin.corp.sgi.com>
	<1992Apr11.064000.14622@cs.yale.edu> <2035@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway

Glenn Host writes:
>> Article <1992Apr11.064000.14622@cs.yale.edu> From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (S\cott Horne)
>
>> In article <1992Apr11.033944.18218@odin.corp.sgi.com>, autry@sgi.com (Larry A\utry) writes:
>
>> And if you have a baby, take a pacifier.  If there's anything I don't need,
>> it's four hours of "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!"
>
>Remember though that just because a baby has a pacifier
>it does NOT mean the baby will take it and be quiet.
>
>I know, I am a new father :)

How about a bottle with a fruit juice the kid likes in it?  S/He would
probably be more motivated to suck on that than a plain old boring
tasteless pacifier.

This should at least get you through take-off and landing, when the
crying is usually at its worst.  (Ear trouble!)

Also: for slightly older children, bring some sort of toys that the
child can play with at his seat.  (Preferably ones whose primary 
intention is not to make noise!!)  I've seen way too many bored, whiny
kids on planes, sometimes even on short flights.  Even drawing paper
and crayons would be something to do...

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: llew@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lew Yan Voon)
Subject: Re: AMEX Coupon Transferability
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:59:04 GMT



with all this talk about people getting checked at the airports
and having to pay the full fare (whenever they're using someone
else's voucher), has any of the corresponding cardholder got into
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: smpalaz@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Shankar Jagannathan)
Subject: Re: DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH AMERICAN "EXPRESS" (Re: AMEX coupons???)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 10 Apr 1992 11:45 EDT  

In article <1992Apr10.002614.22295@cs.yale.edu>, horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes...
>In article <s0mirINNr51@agate.berkeley.edu>, dbr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Rosler) writes:
><
><Okay, I guess with this it's time to tell what AMEX just recently did to me.
> 
>And what they did to me long ago.  (And to three others who sent me their
>stories in e-mail.)  I had held one of their damned credit cards long before
>they even announced their "special" discounts on air fare.  Despite *three*
>notifications of change of address--one by mail, two by 'phone--they managed
>to send their vouchers to my former address.
> 
><To make a long story short,
><they mailed them by mistake to my parents' old address (2 years old in fact.)
><They refused to do anything to help me.
> 
> 
>They finally arrived--four months later.  I had to cancel my planned trip
>and was unable to use the vouchers again.
> 
><They flat out refused to get me the vouchers in any way.

Well, I wont bother repeating the same messy details as they occured in my
case. Suffice it to say that I am convinced that AMEX service is lousy 
especially if you are a student member, although you still pay the full
member fee. They had better realise that there are few benefits not 
offered by competitive cards esp. VISA and M/C.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: scherock@maestoso.mit.edu (Stephen F. Scherock)
Subject: Best Fares magazine
Organization: MIT Research Lab For Electronics, DSP Group
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:21:20 GMT


I have heard the editor of this magazine on Larry King (radio). The editor
(his name escapes me) knew many discount fares, and I'm sure the magazine
is well worth reading--but I don't know where to get it. I have checked
with the Boston Public Library and a large newsstand, neither knew of the
magazine.

Does anybody know how to subscribe?  Please reply via e-mail to
<scherock@mit.edu> .

Thanks,

Stephen (no .sig)


Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: AMEX coupons???
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:13:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.163134.22886@cis.ohio-state.edu> schuyler@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Carlton Schuyler) writes:
>>So, can anybody tell me how can an AMEX card holder obtain
>>the coupons and what can I do with them?
>>
>You have to be a student.  So you call up their 800 customer service
>number, and say "Hi, I'm a student, I have an AmEx card, here's my
>account number, and I didn't receive the Continental vouchers for this
>time period."

And then they say "We dont have any info on your student status in our
computer.  Please send a photocopy of your current schedule and your validated
college ID to the following address...."

At least thats what they told me...

--Ken
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: notkin@cs.washington.edu (David Notkin)
Subject: Qantas FF with US Airlines?
Summary: Who gives miles and how?
Keywords: qantas, ff
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 16:45:33 GMT


I will be flying Sydney-Tokyo on Qantas in mid-May.  Which US airlines
have frequent flyer mileage agreements with Qantas?  And how do I go
about making sure that I get the mileage for those airlines?  Thanks.
-- 
David Notkin					notkin@cs.washington.edu
Dept. of Computer Science & Engineering, FR-35  1-206-685-3798
University of Washington			1-206-543-2969 (FAX)
Seattle, WA  98195
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Mass Transit and airports (was: Re: O'HARE)
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:37:43 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <9204121426.AA11385@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:

>Isn't the new San Jose trolley supposed to go to the airport pretty soon?

Not that I know of.  The line actually bypasses the airport already.
Its route takes it essentially parallel with the airport's runways, but
about a mile east of it.  There are some stations that aren't terribly
far from the airport, but I don't think anyone would say that it "goes
to" the airport.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:30:55 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

altus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Altus) writes:

>In article <dunbar.702673016@beagle> dunbar@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Scott Dunbar) writes:
>>I would have to say that another long flight is
>>
>>Paris to Papeete on UTA/Air France
>>its 24,000 Kilometers Non Stop
>>Which translates to 14,880 miles i believe
>>

>maybe they should try flying the other way around the world!
>:-)

>NO commercial transport can fly that far nonstop.

>your numbers are wrong.

I know that UTA flys to Paris from SFO and LAX.. on the way to Papeete so I
believe that the scheduled stop is there and it is NOT nonstop.

-Noah
--
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: cs921022@ariel.yorku.ca (MING HE)
Subject: TEST--ignore
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:16:57 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Airline food
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 01:34:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.185415.7885@dsd.es.com> cannon@tornado.dsd.es.com (Gary Cannon) writes:
>Most flights that serve meals have convection ovens for heating meals. The
>larger planes (DC10, 747) have galleys below the passenger levels that have
>better facilities for meal preparation.
>

Most airlines that have planes like this have moved their galleys up to the
passenger level to make room for lucrative freight.  The little elevators
that communicate between the levels aren't worth their weight.

RNA


Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: USair
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:10:07 GMT

In article <3623@bacon.MooreNet.COM> jordan@MooreNet.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:

>I thought Western was purchased by TWA?  Delta picked up several of the
>AA and US gate slots.

Delta bought Western, TWA earlier bought Ozark.  The TWA purchase of
Ozark and the Northwest purchase of Republic were the two most
egregious examples of the Reagan Administration avoiding their anti-trust
responsibilities.  Ozark and TWA both had hubs at St Louis, resulting
in a near monopoly there after the merger for the new TWA.  Same story
at MSP and DTW after the Republic/Northwest merger.

RNA



Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 16:31:06 GMT

In article <tomc.702966520@citr.uq.oz.au> tomc@citr.uq.oz.au (Tom Crawley) writes:
>I doubt there are commercial aircraft capable of sectors longer that 15 hours,
>otherwise airlines would be using them. Hey, Singapore-New York DIRECT looks
>promising for SQ!
>

The 747-400 is capable of London-Perth flights in revenue service, though
no-one has such a schedule.  I remember this from an Aviation Leak article
on the aircraft.  That would be around 17-18 hours of flight I believe.

RNA
From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (   )
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Lufthansa offer of free RT ticket?
Date: 8 Apr 1992 17:35:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


You have to buy full fare coach ticket in order to get this free ticket.
The full fare costs more than 2 lowest-fare tickets.
Delta also has similar offer.

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: bwong@beach.csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Subject: Re: If I'd only known
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:25:26 GMT

In article <rvk2nINNlri@agate.berkeley.edu> spanzer@enzyme.berkeley.edu (Scott Panzer) writes:
>
>For United, the person transferring the ticket must be present with the
>recipient at the time of ticketing (or is it flight time or both) for the
>transfer to be valid.
>
>If you don't want to get screwed, be careful, and know exactly what the airline
>can and can't do.......
>
>Good luck!   --Scott

The person transferring the ticket must pick up the ticket. Thats it.
The recipient does not have to be there at time of ticketing.
I've extensively used United FF tickets and they check ID > 50% of 
the time.  It says ID required right on the ticket and they mean it.

Bradley Wong
bwong@beach.csulb.edu
From: noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:18:55 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

bernward@rcc.de (Bernward Averwald) writes:



>Not quite correct, there is a stop over in San Francisco.
>Btw, UTA doesn't exist anymore, they are now part of Air France.

>regards,

>   Bernward

UTA DOES Exist.. they are a part of Air France but they do exist.  They fly to
Africa and the Pacific where Air France does not fly.  UTA, Air Inter, and
Air France are all part of the Air France GROUPE but the airlines still exist
(i.e you will not see an Air Inter plane flying an Air France route).

-Noah Cole
--
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             "And monkeys might fly out of my butt!"- Wayne Campbell
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From: gammal@CAM.ORG (Michael Gammal)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: tickets
Summary: tickets
Keywords: Las Vegas
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:26:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Altitude, St-Lambert QC  CANADA

Looking for deal on 3 return Toronto - Las Vegas - Toronto Package tickets
including hotel.  preferrably Bally's or The Riviera Hotels.
Date:Approx. 14 May - returning 20-21's of May 1992.

Note:This is a Toronto, Canada Departure for clarification.

need answer soon.

-- 
Michael Gammal		Concordia University    	gammal@Altitude.CAM.ORG
From: aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Longest Segment (was Welcome/etc.)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 12:42:23 PDT
Reply-To: aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us

In article <9204132025.AA28265@iecc.cambridge.ma.us>, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
>I believe the longest nonstop routes are NYC-Johannesburg, flown by SAA.
>(sanctions permitting).


How about Finnair's Helsinki-Tokyo route?

Aki.
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From: steinke@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Gerhard Steinke)
Subject: Northwest mileage bonuses
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:58:59 GMT

Occasionally Northwest gives double/triple or bonus miles for flying
a particular route or via a particular city.

Does anyone know of such bonuses for flying from or to the cities
of Detroit and Seattle?

Thanks...G. Steinke   steinke@andorfer.fmi.uni-passau.de
.

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: Upward bumps (was: Re: Bumps)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:21:19 GMT

In article <92106.145037ASAHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> Asher Samuels <ASAHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>This works if you are a VERY frequent flyer.

I'm told that holders of United Premier cards and other airlines' equivalents
get priority on upward bumps due to overbooking.  I haven't had the chance to
try it out, but I hope to on an upcoming trip to Zurich.  :-)

Wayne
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