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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:45:19 +0100
Reply-To:     Herbert Schumacher <Her.Schumacher@kfa-juelich.de>
From:         Herbert Schumacher <ZDV027@ZAM001.ZAM.KFA-JUELICH.DE>
Subject:      7171 and tabs
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Hi,
after 10 years we have a nice "problem" with the 7171:
If you have a file containing hex '05' (Tabs) and you want to XEDIT it
(for XEDIT we set REMOTE ON), you will see the error message:
DMSXSC117S Error writing to display terminal.
If you now set REMOTE OFF, the error disappears. Is it an error or does it
work as designed??

Herbert Schumacher
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From:         DEBBIE JUSTICE <JUSTICE@WCUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Macro editor: ED

Roelof,

>     I am looking for an independent macro editor.
> My question is:
> Can I get a standalone macro editor, e.g. ED?????

The internal macro editor in WordPerfect is very limited and especially
frustrating to use when working with larger macros.  I have been using the
editor that is part of the WP Office program.  It can be used to edit a
variety of file formats, including WP macros.  If you don't want to purchase
the Office package, I believe the editor can now be bought as a stand-alone
product.  Check with WP's toll-free folks to verify this.

I have not started using WP4Win yet, but I doubt the editor from the Office
package can be used with macros created with WP4Win.  I understand that the
Windows version of WP creates macros using a different language/file structure,
and are not interchangeable with the WP 5.1 for DOS macros.  I believe the
C programming language is used to create WP4Win macros--maybe editing the
macro source code is more straight forward; I hope so!

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From:         Tony Roder <TONY@SLACVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Scalable Font Managers for WP DOS


I am quite satisfied with PrimeType on an HPIIP+.  It's fast, simple to
install, transparent/inobtrusive to run.  The only quible is that it does
not provide enough fonts as part of the package, and that Adobe (tm) type 1
fonts are somewhat expensive.
From: GARYS@ACUSD.BITNET (Gary P. Schneider, University of San Diego)
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i'd like to second m. morse's condemnation of ScreenExtender for WordPerfect.
i spent 85 scarce dollars on that damn program three years ago while i was a
phd student and could ill afford the waste.  the program was VERY difficult to
install and produced an illegible screen display.

i vaguely remember that there were other problems with it, but i try to forget
horrible experiences, so i can't remember the details.  i'd avoid it.  in fact,
that experience made me averse to ANY software advertised in the WordPerfect
Magazine...

-gary

Gary P. Schneider
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From: HON04@MSU.BITNET (Michael.Conwell)
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Subject: WordPerfect for the NeXT - Macros
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:57:00 GMT
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How do you get macros to repeat automatically in Version 1.0 of WP for the
NeXT computers?  Unlike the DOS version, the ESC key method does not work.
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Subject: Re: Clip art/Paint Program
From: pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:50:15 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

22642SC@MSU writes:
> I am looking for a good paint/draw program that comes with alot of clipart.
> I would like to use the graphics with Wordperfect for Windows.  Presently, I
> am looking at Corell Draw, and Draw Perfect.  If anyone has any suggestions as
> to which is better or if anyone has a better idea I'd appreciate it. (Right
> now I'm leaning tword Draw Perfect $85.00 vs Corel Draw $600)

I've been using CorelDraw for both standalone and with WpWin.  I really
like it, especially since it's a collection of programs - practically
everything you;d think of having in a set of programs. I have found that
colors do not export well - some of the Clipart exports to WPG with
simplified or changed colors.  As I print rather simple things with WP on
a Laserjet, then this hasn't been a big problem.

I have a CD-ROM drive, so I can use the 12,000 clipart pieces that it
comes with, as well as the 150 True-type fonts.  I notice you're writing
from a University, so maybe you should be aware that Corel has educational
pricing at about half list.  For $300, the clip art, fonts, and
flexibility were to much for me to pass up.

I don't really have any experience with DrawPerfect, or with Micrografix,
which is lauded by another poster.  They are probably fine programs as
well, but what sold me on Corel for my purposes was the shear volume of
stuff you get.

Paul MacFarlane
Danville, California
pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 18:09:19 CST
From: David Child <U24421@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: Add-On Font Managers

The original article included PrimeType as one of the potential purchases.
Buy it.

During the installation (which will take you about 15 minutes if you know
where your printer files are stored before you begin installing) you are
asked if you want to install to DOS, Windows, or both.  If you are going to
Windows, you will get ATM Type Manager installed as well.  The program asks
if you prefer to devote more memory to printing (and consequently having some
degradation in further responses to typing) or be able to continue typing
and thus have some loss of speed in printing.  In either case, it does not
lock up your keyboard!  You won't have a large quantity of fonts to choose
from, but they will be scalable Adobe Type 1 Postscript fonts that will
print out beautifully on your laser printer, deskjet printer, or dot matrix
printer.  PrimeType was on the last Adobe Communications conference tour and
showed printouts from dot matrix, deskjet, laser, and postscript laser
printers.  It was hard to tell which printer the sample came from.  Buy it.

P.S.  I'm not a product salesman but I did play one in an acting class.
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From:         Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: File conversion from Word5.5
              13 Nov 1992 15:09:00 GMT from <WALTONP@CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK>

On Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:09:00 GMT <WALTONP@CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK> said:
>I agree. Lets keep to English, even if it's badly spelt.
>
>Paul Walton
>University of Portsmouth.

Why?  I find this type of English First/English Only sentiment racist and
obnoxious.  This list isn't a U.S.--only list (from Walton's address, I'd
guess he is from the UK) or even english-speaking only.  Why do English
speakers always expect others to learn English, instead of learning the
other's language?  Dutch, esp., is (like English) a germanic language and
should not be impossible for English speakers to figure out the general
gist of the post.

MARC BECKER
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
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From:         Johnny <ECON1286@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ScreenExtender
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On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:32:27 EST <MMORSE%YORKVM1.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu> sai
>There is a simple way to get the screen-text to behave in WP51: select
>a font/size which arranges itself comfortably on the screen, and shift
>to any other as needed only when actually printing. . . . [deletion] . . .

This is a simple practical solution, but if you need to know how the
page is going to be laid out *while* you're editing it's not going to
answer the need.

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From: hsitz@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Herbert E Sitz)
Subject: Scalable Font Managers for WP DOS
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:07:38 GMT

 
I have a question about DOS font managers.  I'm thinking about 
getting a font manager so I can give up using clunky bit-mapped 
downloadable fonts and get scalable fonts.  I have an HP IIP, but I 
might also want to use the scalable fonts on a Deskjet 500 and a 
Star Micronics NX 1000 nine pin printer.  The packages I've heard 
about and am considering are:
 
        Bitstream Facelift
        MicroLogic Morefonts
        MicroLogic Truetype for DOS
        Lasertools Fonts-on-the-Fly (Intellifont fonts)
        Lasertools Primetype (type 1 postscript fonts)
 
Does anyone have experience with any of these packages?  (I realize 
that Primetype and Truetype for DOS are pretty new, but they're 
also the ones I'm most interested in.)  How are they as far as 
1) speed and 2) quality.  Are there public domain Truetype fonts 
or Type 1 postscript fonts that might make Primetype or 
Truetype for DOS better choices than the others?  
 
The package I get MUST work with WordPerfect, and it would also be nice 
if it worked with Microsoft Word (or other DOS programs).

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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Subject: Re: Same macro's for different WP languages/versions
From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:22:49 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington

In article <BF267C951B1F203C33@IB.AGRO.NL> OLDENHUIS@IB.AGRO.NL (Roelof Oldenhuis) writes:
>Hello,
>
>On our institute, we use different versions of WP (an older US version on
>our local LAN and newer standalone NL versions.
>
>To make macro's applicable for both languages, you cannot use "y" or "j" for
>yes and ja, respectively, when is prompting for an answer. Therefore WP has
>made possible using the options "+" for yes and "-" for no (the last one
>causes for the NL version no problem).
>
>However, our older US version does not support this, but uses the "1" option
>instead. So the same problem remains.
>
>My question: Does somebody have a solution for these different versions?????
>Hints: Is there a possibility to retrieve the WP version/language in a macro?
>       Is there a smart (short) test when "1" or "+" must be used?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Roelof Oldenhuis     Internet: oldenhuis@ib.agro.nl

I am afraid that you will have to write the macro to explicitly
support the various answers you are likely to receive from your users,
i.e. y Y j J n N, in the form of an expanded (extended? :-) CASE
statement. Fortunately this is not difficult; you are probably using
this structure anyway in any macros you are likely to write.
-- 
Jim Baltaxe - jim.baltaxe@vuw.ac.nz
Computing Services Centre - Victoria University of Wellington - New Zealand
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Subject:      Phonetic character set?

Please excuse if this is a FAQ:

I need to include phonetic characters (the ones that appear at the
beginning of dictionaries) in a document.  I've looked through the
appendices in the WP manual: there are a few in character set 1 (accessed
by ctrl-v).  Does anyone know how to access the whole set?

Thanks very much.

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From:         Roelof Oldenhuis <OLDENHUIS@IB.AGRO.NL>
Subject:      Macro editor: ED

Hello,

    I am looking for an independent macro editor.
I get memory conflicts when I edit very large macro's within WP.
So besides printing and editing very easily with such an editor, it is
impossible for me to edit my macro's at all.

    The reasons for memory problems are:
1) using WP on our LAN (needs [too much] memory as well)
2) using a very old configuration (512 kb RAM).

My question is:
Can I get a standalone macro editor, e.g. ED?????

Please help me,


Roelof Oldenhuis     Internet: oldenhuis@ib.agro.nl
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From:         Bill Silvert <bill@BIOME.BIO.NS.CA>
Subject:      Rotating EPS files (from gnuplot)?

I've got a bunch of EPS files that I want to include in a WP 5.1
document.  This usually is not problem, but these have to be rotated 90
degrees, and apparently WP doesn't understand how to rotate an EPS file
without clipping it.  It seems that the BoundingBox remains the same but
the figure gets rotated.

If I edit the file to change the BoundingBox to a square (e.g., change
50 50 500 700 to 50 50 700 700) the file doesn't get clipped, but I end
up with a lot of dead space.  Any ideas?

By the way, these figures are gnuplot graphs that fill a sheet of paper
in landscape mode.  If anyone has better ideas on how to use gnuplot to
prepare graphs for WP, please let me know.
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From:         "(Tom Mathieu [7143])" <mathieu@STPAUL.NCR.COM>
Subject:      Re: Please read: Tom Mathieu or anyone else
              "WPCORP-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" at Nov 13, 92 4:02 pm

Sorry, as far as I know, WP Corp doesn't have an internet address.
You may want to try Simtel (wsmr.simtel20.army.mil).  They may have
it.

P.s. my mail got bounced because whoever set up our system
has me defined as "thomas.mathieu@ncrcis.stpaul.ncr.com".

Good luck.


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From:         Michael Hollinger <MCHOLL@TSRV1.TS.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Newspaper Column Line Chopping - Ideas?

> The "but whether" is not justified - it's treated as the last sentence of a
> paragraph, even though the paragraph is broken by [HRt] to force the new
> column.

Actually, you'll want to be using [HPg] (which is {Ctrl-Enter} to
start a new column.

As for the ustification, the problem is that WP simply doesn't not
have enough text on that lat line to properly justify it. I suppose
you could change the justification zones (Under {Shift-F8} something
or other, look in Help for the exact sequence) but, otherwise, that's
the reason.


> When you're in the business of user support, you have to be a Mr. Scott ("Ye
> canna change the laws o' physics, but ye CAN change the printer settings.")

Aye lad, you said two hours? But how long is really going to tak ya?
Remember, computer users are like children, they want everything but
if ya want to look like a miracle worker, you haf' to tel' 'em it
takes time...
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From: hsitz@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Herbert E Sitz)
Subject: Re: Getting Setup information automatically - {SYSTEM}field~?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:13:50 GMT

In article <44305.reitsmac@max.cc.denison.edu> reitsmac@DENISON.BITNET writes:
>On Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:06:35, <wpcorp-l@ubvm.bitnet> wrote:
>
>>   I have a large set of macros that I have developed for generating standard
>>documents but I am having trouble automating the installation process.  What
>>I want to do is to create a macro that will install the other macros such
>>that I can run wp5.1 as "wp /m-install.wpm".  What I need to do is
>>determine the location of the wp macros directory, (typically
>>specified in the setup menu (Shift F1,6,2)). Since not all of the PCs here
>>are set up the same way, it would be useful to get the macros directory name
>>from setup (if possible) so that I could copy the macros from the floppy
>>to the specified macros directory.
>>   Is this possible?  Does anyone else have any suggestions as to how I
>>could install the macros?  Any help would be greatly appreciated, otherwise
>>I will probably end up installing them on every PC here.
>
 
I have a very early version of 5.1, but I am under the impression 
that later versions have a new variant of the {system} command that
will read in the value of the menu entry in the current menu.
If this is the case, then a macro could simply go into the setup 
menu where file directories are set, and then "read" the macro
directory by using the {system} command with the appropriate 
system variable.  I seem to remember hearing that the system 
variable to use is "field".  If this is right the macro could 
position itself on the macro filedirectory menu choice, and assign 
the {system}field~ value to a variable.  
 
Will someone please tell me if this is indeed a feature of later 
versions of 5.1, since I'd like to get a new copy if it is.
 






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From: ECL4JMS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jeff Suttor)
Subject: Request: Pgm to WP -> ASCII
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:58:36 PST

Am looking for a simple PD program that will read in a WP file and write
out an ASCII file, just like TEXT OUT does.  Would like it to be able to
be called from a batch file and/or accept wildcard file parms.  Looked
in simtel, etc. archives but didn't uncover any candidates.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jeff Suttor                    Pgmr/Analyst  Library Information Systems
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From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Subject: Re: Please read: Tom Mathieu or anyone else
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:39:47 GMT

In article <9211161332.AA01001@ncrcis.StPaul.NCR.COM> "(Tom Mathieu [7143])" <mathieu@STPAUL.NCR.COM> writes:
>Sorry, as far as I know, WP Corp doesn't have an internet address.
>You may want to try Simtel (wsmr.simtel20.army.mil).  They may have
>it.

The local representative of WordPerfect Pacific told me yesterday that
WPC has just gotten an internet address; he doesn't know it himself
but will pass it on as soon as he finds out. Apparently WPC (Pacific
at least) is very enthusiastic about e-mail and internet specifically
for in house use. Pity they don't seem to be supporting its protocols
directly in their products. At the moment third party software is
required to make any connection, which makes Office too expensive for
us. Office 4.0 will require an SNMP gateway and finally in 4.1 (or
greater? :-( ) we are promised direct support. 


-- 
Jim Baltaxe - jim.baltaxe@vuw.ac.nz
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From: c_brown@chef.uwe.ac.uk (Chris Brown)
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Subject: voice driven apps
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:31:11 GMT
Reply-To: c_brown@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Organization: The University of the West of England (The Magic Roundabout)

Has anyone heard of a voice driven version of Word Perfect. A friend told
me such an application was available in the States and may be on its way
to the UK.

PC people at work have no information.

Thanks

Chris

c_brown@uk.ac.uwe.csd