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From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: Taking a pet into Singapore.
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:53:40 GMT

tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com wrote:
: Anyone know about the restrictions in bringing pets into Singapore?
: 
: Ted
: 

Hi Ted

I don't think there is any restrictions in bringing pets into 
Singapore ... I presume ur pet is a cat or dog ... not one
of those protected animals ...

U will need an import permit from our Primary Production Board
before the custom will let ur pet in ...

I don't know the actual detail but I can check for u ...
u can also check with our Embassy ...

It will be definitely easier than bring an animal to
New Zealand ...


george

ps Send me a mail if u want me to find out for u ....

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: klipec@pachuco.Princeton.EDU (Kathy Klipec Crow)
Subject: Re: Invisible fences...what are they?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:59:39 GMT

My parents have an invisible fence for their Labrador/German shepherd.
The way it works is that the pet wears a collar with a transmitter on
it and the "fence" is a closed loop of wire buried in the yard.  When
the pet comes with a certain radius of the border, a tone sounds to
warn the pet to retreat; if the pet comes closer (or does not back off)
he/she receives a light electric shock.  They used to have an electric
fence; this is much less ugly and seems to work as well (also does not
get in the way of humans!).  Greta (the dog) broke through once when chasing 
the paper boy (at top speed the tone is not an effective deterrent) but
they've been generally pretty satisfied.  

If you're hoping to use this for a cat, I'd say that theirs would not
work for this purpose.  The collar is WAY too heavy (unless the cat
were jumbo-sized).  Also the pet does have to be trained to the borders
(by walking him/her around them and letting them learn what the tone
means) and I'm not sure that many cats would be "trainable" in this manner.
Too bad, their (indoor) cat would love to join her big buddy Greta in 
the yard!

Kathy
From: hecate@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: more quarantine questions
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:55:24 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Is it still a six-month quarantine period in the UK?
It has always seemed to me to be a ridiculously long
time to quarantine an animal, especially if said
critter has all the vets certificates proving rabies
vaccinations etc etc. Why the length? Three months
would surely do?

I ask because there is a small chance that I may study
in England at some point in the future, and I refuse to
go anywhere without my cats!

Julia Holland
From: alclark@RWASIC27.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (Amy L Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Some funny stories
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:19:49 GMT

I just remembered a couple of stories about Bageria (Baggy)
my black domestic longhair and Donchu my siamese.

For a while, in my old apartment, I had a bean bag that
my grandmother had bought for me.  When I acquired the
bean bag, I had visions of curled up cozily next to the
fireplace reading a book while lying in the bean bag.
It turned out that the bean bag became part of the
designated kitty play ground for Baggy.  Baggy and I
would play a game where I would get a twistie (the bands
I used to tie up my hair) and throw the twistie into
the bean bag from across the room.  Baggy would be
standing by me, would see the twistie fly, would begin
running, and at about half the distance to the bean bag
he would take a flying leap face first into the bean bag.
He would lay there for a few seconds (he looked like those
joke Garfields that people were putting in their car
windows for a while that had only the butt of the kitty
flat against the window that made it look like the cat
had smashed into the window) and then "capture the twistie
with his mouth" and fetch the twistie back to mommie so that
we could play the game again.  Well, one afternoon, I picked
up the twistie and threw it into the bean bag.  Baggy, with
his customary enthusiam, leapt from the floor towards the
bean bag but practically stopped in mid-air.  Me, being my
usual ignorant humanlike self kept saying "go get the twistie
or we can't play".  Baggy kept meowing at me and looking at
me with the "how can you be so stupid look".  Well when 
mommie finally came to her senses, I walked over to the
bean bag and discovered the twistie floating in a puddle of
cat pee.  Oh well.  No more bean bag twistie game.  Come to
think of it-- no more bean bag.  The urine soaked through
the material to those millions of little styrofoam balls used
to stuff the bean bag.  I put it into my mother's fenced-in
backyard to air out, and somebody stole the bean bag.  They
deserved what they got. If they're going to steal a stinky
urine soaked bean bag, they are more desperate for furniture
than I and they are welcome to it.  I still think my other cat,
Donchu, got jealous that Baggy and I played the game and decided
to end it once and for all by "fixing" the bean bag for good!

I was going to tell another story about Donchu and the "monster
tablecloth", but this story is long enough for now.  I tell
stories as I think of them, so I'm sure more will come later.

BTW, there was a mini-thread going on about cats kneading and
suckling when they're happy.  Donchu is five years old now and
still does this.  He was about eight to ten weeks when I got him
from his mother.

Amy
(Rec-pets-cats is the BEST group!)
From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Deworming methods
Keywords: yuch!
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:39:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvD066.EMJ
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

It sounds like she might have tapeworms and not roundworms.  Tapeworms are 
commonly transmitted to our pets from their fleas when the pet eats
the flea.  So, as long as she has fleas she will also keep having tapeworms.
If she is an indoor cat and you don't have any other pets who may be bringing
new fleas into your house, you should go ahead and treat your cat and the house
to get rid of the fleas.  Then, when flea treatment is finished, you can treat
for tapeworms.  One thing to think about is that fleas only spend 5% of their
time on your pet, so if you find 5 fleas on your cat, there are about 95 in
the rest of your house.  this is why its so important to treat the house too.
Oh, another reason I think it may be tapes is that you said that you could
see them around her anal region- this is actually tapeworm segments that
you are seeing and you may see them around the anus, on furniture she has 
been on, and in her stools.

We have always used an oral dewormer for tapeworms.  Your vet may be using
ivermectin to deworm her, so far as I know that is the only anti-parasitic
injectable out there.

--
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Sawdust as Kitty Litter
Date: 3 Oct 92 08:08:05 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Here's the summary I promised regarding using pine shavings as kitty litter.

The only real concern seemed to be that it is less absorbent than some other
litter types and the cats might not like the wetness. I've been using it for
several days now and my cats seem to have no problem with it. Uh...no
wisecracks about that last ambiguous sentence please :*)

The only drawback I have noticed is it tends to get tracked around the house
a bit more than other stuff, but I vacuum every day or two anyway so it's not
really a problem, your mileage may vary. What I really like is that it is so
cheap that I tend to clean the litter box more often, no longer worried about
conserving litter to save money, the paper stuff I'd been using is kind of
expensive.

BTW: There is actually a picture of a cat on the bag, as well as several
other animals.


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From: jocha@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Marianne S. Jocha)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Flea season part II
Date: 1 Oct 1992 15:41:16 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

In article <1992Sep29.215852.7190@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>ken@ece.orst.edu (KEN MCCRACKEN) writes:
>> I get my flea-killing satisfaction with needle-nosed pliers.  I've been 
>> working with the dumb things for 35 years, so I feel confident enough to 
>> pick the fleas off my kittens with them.
>> 
>> They make such a satisfying crunch when you slowly squeeze those handles!
>
>Ohh!  Wicked! Delightfully wicked!
>Kay

Funny, Kay, but I thought the exact same thing when I read this - kind
of a "ooh, I wanna try it too!" response.  Guess it's been a bad year
for fleas, and we're all looking for revenge!  :-)
                       --marianne--
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: janeg@aeolus.epps.kodak.com (Jane Gibbs)
Subject: Cat owner once more, a follow-up
Reply-To: janeg@aeolus.Atex.Kodak.COM 
Organization: Atex Publishing Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:16:18 GMT


Last March, I posted an ode entitled \`Stymie RIP 1974-1992\' about 
saying goodbye to my dear 18-year-old feline companion, and many of 
you sent electronic cards of sympathy that lended much comfort in my loss.

Well, this post is a follow-up to let you all know that my home is again
 filled with the sounds of furry, little feets as I'm now the proud owner
 of two 3-year-old black/gray tabbys, male litter-mates, that I adopted
 this past weekend from the Northeast Animal Shelter (Salem, Mass).

Originally, I had intended to adopt two kittens, but these two guys, 
Chubbs and Edwin, were there just waiting for me! They are 
*the* greatest!!! Seems their owners had a newborn child 
that turned out to be allergic, so they were forced to give the 
guys away. The father that brought them to the Shelter was 
crying when he left. So concerned was this couple, that 
they left all the cats' toys and dishes for the new owner, 
plus the man's workshirt to give them some comfort. 
Also specific was their request that the two not be separated. 
(BTW, this particular shelter doesn't put animals to sleep and 
will keep them as long as is necessary to place them.) 

In summary, timing and fate brought me to them. And I feel so very fortunate. 

Cheers,
Jane


-- 
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Jane M. Gibbs - Atex Inc., Bedford, MA - the usual disclaimers apply   
Internet: janeg@aeolus.atex.kodak.com  Voice: 508-670-3127       
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ken@ece.orst.edu (KEN MCCRACKEN)
Subject: Re: Automatic Cat Door Source Wanted
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering Department, OSU
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:02:54 GMT

In article <qmgz!nf@rpi.edu> hughes@yingyang.ral.rpi.edu (Declan Hughes) writes:


>  I am looking for a cat door with a magnetic lock that opens when
>the cat approaches if the cat is wearing the supplied magnet. Can
>anyone recommend a model, and source, that they have used and found
>to work well ?

>Declan Hughes
>hughes@ral.rpi.edu

I would like to know if one exists or not as well.  I have been half-
heartedly designing one for several years! :-)  I want one that is 
'codable,' so my neighbor's cat won't open our door, and able to have the 
collar codes changed, so one door can be controlled by many collars.  I 
also want at least a 1-foot range.  I don't want it to require a battery 
on the collar, either, and it must be fairly fast acting.  Sometimes our 
cowardly Tom uses his door as an escape route, and I don't want his nose any 
flatter than it is!

I was once designing an invisible pet fence, too, but several somebodies 
beat me to it.  I wouldn't be at all surprised to find I'd been beaten in 
the 'coded kitty-door' race, too.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Why do cats purr?
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:57:40 GMT

In article <BvGLLw.M2p@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>OK, so why does my cat *not* purr?  

Are you sure she doesn't just purr very softly?  Cissy purrs so
softly that the only way I can tell is to touch her throat to
feel the purring.  Calli & Timmy both purr so loud they chirp.

>Muriel (so-called because she's grey,
>an allusion that will be lost on most readers outside Scotland) can only
>summon up a very faint purr for a few breaths.  
>--  Jack Campin    room G092, Computing Science Department, Glasgow University,

Ok, Jack, you've tweaked my  curiosity.  Why would a grey cat
logically be called Muriel?

Debbie Milllard
Encore Computer Corp.
Ft. Lauderdale, FL.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Q4U. Removing cat urine smell (yes, I've read the FAQ)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 23:30:24 GMT


And it's quite a comprehensive FAQ if I do say so. Unfortunately, most
of what I've read in it deals with using specialized commercial products. The 
reason I'd like to get more input on other people's luck is because:

-the products are rather expensive.
-I've not had luck with enzymatic products.
-there *must* be some old trick to this without having to buy
 'special products'. (I'm into old-wive's potions...)

I'm sure there is *someone* out there who can suggest a common product
to get rid of cat urine smell in a carpet. Any tips would be greatly
appreciated. (no, I'm not going to say 'thanks in advance' 'cuz I hate
it when people say that)





-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Subject: Re: cat sleeps in bad place...  help...
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:33:18 GMT

In article <BvH6Eq.L8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hartlemp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu  
(Michael P Hartley) writes:
> 
>    My new kitten, "chutzpah", has chosen an anoying place to sleep.
> I have a large computer desk against the wall.  Under, and behind the 
> computer, is a typical 1000 sheet form-feed box of paper.  The cat has
> decided that this box is real cumfy...  The problem is that I never know
> if the cat is in it or not, so when the printer starts, the paper may or
> may not come through.  
>    Any ideas on how to get the cat not to sleep there?

How about draping some aluminum foil either over the opening
of the box, or lightly inside the box on top of the stack
of paper?  I've heard that cats tend to detest aluminum
foil (the sound of it or something).

Good luck!

--cheryl
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: cookies
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Distribution: usa
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:05:27 GMT

I made these for a party a couple of months ago, and the reaction was
incredibly gratifying.  My wife, who actually saw me make them and _knew_
what was in them, nevertheless wouldn't eat them at all.  A number of
people reported that they walked into the room, took a look at the "litter
box", and thought "Gosh, Sarah [the hostess] is such a good housekeeper;
why doesn't she move her cat box out of the dining room?"

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   -__ __ /_   Jon Berger              "If you push something hard enough,
  //_// //_/   jonb@ingres.com          it will fall over."
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From: Tracie Diamond <tracie@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: 05 Oct 92 15:13 PDT
Subject: Nasty Tapeworms-
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1526400002:000:455
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tracie    Oct  5 15:13:00 1992


Does anyone have any suggestions about getting rid of tapeworms. The cats 
I live with had it before and the vet took care of the nasty critters invading
Andrew's and Butch's bodies. But now they are back. I know they come from 
fleas and we are trying are hardest to get rid of them in the house. But
they are outdoor cats. Is there any natural, inexpencive way to get rid of
them???? Does anyone have a direction they could point me in for the info?




Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Kitten with a Fat Lip
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:00:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.215159.26310@adobe.com> dauphin@adobe.com (Kimberly Dauphin) writes:

>I'm just posting to see if anyone else has 
>ever noticed a fat cat lip?

Zarabeth had a fat lip once, but it went away in a few days.  She's a
tuxedo with white fur all around her mouth, but her "lips" are black,
so it was quite noticeable.  I have no idea how she got it, but she
does run into things from time to time, in her haste to get from Point
A to Point B.  Maybe she bumped it on a wall or something.





--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Paul Larsen)
Subject: fraidy cat
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:59:56 GMT

Help, we have a real friady cat on our hands and have no idea what to do!
Whenever strangers come over to our house, the cat literal runs to the
farthest point from them!  Today, I was holding the cat and the mailperson
unexpectedly showed up.  The cat scrambled to get out of my arms (which I would
think would be considered safe haven), scratching me really bad in the process.
She used to be ok around strangers (taking a little while to warm up), but
now she almost seems to be what would be termed agoraphobic in people.  She
is not the friendliest cat to begin with, but what she is doing now seems
ridiculous!  Any advice would be very helpful!


Paul Larsen
larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu
From: kanner@Apple.COM (Herbert Kanner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: quarantine of cats in Europe
Keywords: I am recently looking for jobs and some of the available positions are in
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:38:31 GMT
Organization: Development Systems Group, Apple Computer

Please phone the Netherlands consulate to know for certain.  However,
to the best of my knowledge, the only European country that has a
quarantine is the United Kingdom.
-- 
Herb Kanner
Apple Computer, Inc.
{idi,nsc}!apple!kanner
kanner@apple.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Allergies
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:42:27 GMT

Someone just asked about allergies.  Sorry, I didn't save the article,
but here is my two cents worth!  :)

In the past, cats have made me pretty sick.  I mean swollen eyes, sinus
explosion, asthma attacks, just from being in a room with one.  One
Halloween in college, I spent over an hour dressing up to go to a 
party with my bf.  We got there, and Jody had forgotten to ask if the
host had any cats, and within 15 minutes, I was really sick and spent
the rest of the evening at home, popping antihistamines.  Fun, fun, fun!!

Anyway, due to circumstance, I ended up living with two cats (not mine)
for about six months, but these two (and one is angora) didn't seem
to be bothering me, miraculously enough.  SO then I got married and
moved out, and we tossed around the idea of getting a kitten, since
I had been doing so well.  So I asked here on the net about allergies,
listened to advice, and we decided to go for it.  We got The Cat (her
name) at the local animal shelter, and I have got to tell you, I was 
unbelievably sick for the first two weeks.  Nose running, eyes watering,
asthma problmes such that we came pretty close to taking her back.

However, she was getting baths every other day.  People have recommended
and allergy-related articles say that washing a cat once a month
will eventually, mysteriously result in the cessation of the production
of the allergan by the animal.  I've read that it takes seven months to
do this.  I think that The Cat has already stopped, and we have had
her for two (?) months.  I say that she has stopped for two reasons:
1)  I just got a pretty comprehensive allergy test, and still test
highly allergic to cat dander, 2) going to the vet and smelling other
animals makes my eyes water, and that's just from sitting in the
waiting room.  The Cat likes to jump up on us and rub her butt in our
faces, and I can put my nose on her and not have a single problem,
and have been able to do so for the last five-six weeks.  It's more
than just being used to her, she really doesn't have anything to
make me sick, IMO.

BUT, I did allow myself to suffer for much longer than I should have,
only because I wanted to wait and see what would happen, and I
was reluctant to take her back to the shelter.  And to the poster:
if you want to start bathing your cats so your friends won't have
any problems, I have to warn you!!  Bathing cats IS NOT for the
weak of heart.  The Cat kicked and scrathed the $#@%! out of me, 
and she barely weighed a pound when we got her.  I'm still waiting
for some of the wounds to heal!!  But now I can say she is worth
it, through I did indulge in very stupid whims to get to this
point.


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Lick Humans?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:01:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.224923.14570@epas.toronto.edu>, dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow) writes...
>I always though it was the salt on our skins.

My cat only does it when she is really enjoying a good scratch at the 
base of her spine in front of her tail.  She does it to say "I like it
Thanks."  If it was salt, she would do it at other times too.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:19:32 EDT
From: <KAJ2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: tapeworms and samples - advice sought

Hi everyone.  We're having a minor kitty crisis and I'm looking for some advice
on how upset I should be with our vet.  Our kittens (two, Colby and Jordana)
were having soft stools, but were still active and drinking and eating just
fine.  After about a week of this Jordana's bottom was bloody on morning
after her BM.  So we called the vet's office.  To make a long story short
we brought in fecal samples from both kitties and they were negative.  So
the kitties saw the vet and he diagnosed a bacterial infection and put them
on antibiotics and immodium A-D. That was 3 days ago.  Last night we found
worms - little brown rice krispie size - on Colby's fur.  I'm upset that they
couldn't find these on Monday when we brought samples in.  We spent money and
effort treating them with antibiotics which aren't helping them.

Why couldn't the vet pick this up on MOnday?  Do I have a legitimate complaint
or could this happen with any vet.   Do I need to do anything special to the
apartment now that they've been dropping rice-krispie worms all over the place?

Any advice appreciated!  Thanks, Karen Jagolinzer (mom to Colby and Jordana)


ps: our kitties are 5 month old indoor cats.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats