From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Don't forget the cheese Re: the daily whine
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:12:20 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
-eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes...
->mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
->$The wonderful thing about listening to thEwIndBag is that you can tune in 
->$at any time, for any period of time and get *something* that will make you 
->$wonder if his elevator goes all the way to the top floor.
-> [stuff deleted] 
->$This is exactly what one would expect from a white male, someone who has to 
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->$have described to him what it's like to be discriminated against *as a 
->$group,* else he'd never have a clue. 
-
->You get no sympathy from me if you think
->HE doesn't "understand" discrimination because he's a white male, or he
->doesn't understand the poor because he's rich,[...]
-
-Let me be very clear on what I meant.  I meant that unless he had it 
-explained to him, and/or if he undertook, of his own volition, to 
-understand discrimination, he would not know what it means because he is 
-part of that group that is at the top of the heap.  Certainly he can begin 
-to understand what it's all about and even empathize a bit, but not without 
-effort and certainly not from personal experience.

How many people do you know would explain discrimination to him? I try
pretty often to understand the basis behind discriminatory policies or
racial pride, only to have someone tell me I couldn't understand since
it's a (black/white/female/male/Latino/Asian/homosexual) thing that I
couldn't understand anyway because I didn't share the "heritage" they
had.

=>White males don't have free rides to success. Rush is definitely
=>discriminated against; perhaps not because he's white, or because he's
=>fat (rotund), or because he's male, but because he's a CONSERVATIVE.
=
=Poor baby!  No doubt he finds that certain kinds of housing are denied him 
=because he's CONSERVATIVE... no doubt he's been told he doesn't qualify for 
=several jobs because he's CONSERVATIVE... without question he's regularly 
=stopped and questioned by police because he's CONSERVATIVE.  How could I 
=have been so insensitive to his plight, mea culpa.

His TV show hasn't even been accepted in the Washington DC market! Do
you think that's discrimination based on political philosophy that the
nation's most popular radio host could get his TV show aired in all the
major markets except Washington DC, and many of those markets put him in
a very, very late time slot (12midnight is ok, but 3AM, Pacific Time?).

As for being denied housing, I think he'd be denied more because of his
"largesse" than his conservatism, disqualification for jobs because his
education and appropriate experiences don't fit the job (unless it's a
commentator in which case he has the appropriate experiences and
references for that). As for being stopped and questioned by police, I
assume that you are implying that some minority out there is always
stopped and questioned just because of his/her race (and I will assume
you are implying that the driver for most cases is black); do black
police officers pull over black drivers, or will they let them go
because of their "blackness"? I will admit many white officers do pull
over blacks due to an inherent racism, particularly in rural areas, but
don't black officers pull over people too, whether it's for speeding,
drunk-driving checks, or even suspicious behavior?
	If I'm not mistaken -- I'll have to check my brother again -- we
do not have a right to privacy when we are driving in our cars, or if we
do, it's a very limited right as opposed to our homes.

=> Now
=>you don't hear me call for all conservatives to band together and
=>demand that our rights be given to us by blaming all our problems on
=>white female liberal homosexuals (e.g.), do you?
=
=You don't have to, thEwIndBag will do it for you, sooner or later.

That's true. We have a Democrat in the White House now, so I guess it's
all up to Bill to select that white female liberal homosexual out there
to some position in his Cabinet. (No sexual reference intended.) 

->I'm sure you don't give
->a damn about the obstacles he had to overcome in order to produce his
->radio program, his TV program, or his book because he's one of those
->"white males" whose behavior you can predict and describe so easily.

-Obstacles, my foot.  He dropped out of school and got a job at the local 
-radio station simply because his family had connections in Cape Giradeau.  
-From then on his career had the typical ups and downs that every radio 
-career has until he chose to align himself with the radical right 
-so-called-self-styled Christian Coalition and the Republican party, then 
-just happened to be in the right place at the right time with a very good 
-staff to make him sound smarter than he really is.  Huge obstacles.  My 
-kind of obstacles.  We should *all* have such obstacles.

I do all the time. :)

He found success after meeting obstacle after obstacle of being a radio
DJ. Whether he had connections or not doesn't diminish his success, he
still didn't click his heels together to become so popular. He didn't
immediately become a hit when he moved to New York. He simply found an
audience that no one else was addressing, and that is the mark of a
successful businessman. Now he has to maintain that success, and that
isn't a cupcake walk either. Again, even with his TV show, he had to
overcome obstacles: finding out the differences between TV and radio and
which elements of his radio show could be transferred over, negotiating
with syndicates to produce this show and air it in all the markets in
the nation, and finding the formula for success in late-night
television. My brother himself tried to do a talk show, and my father
produced a pilot with my brother and a friend of his as the hosts.
Needless to say, we never moved on further than the pilot. Doing a talk
show with guests is difficult enough for 30 minutes; try with NO guests
every day for as long as Rush has been on TV with the expense of
producing TV shows, and tell me he hasn't been challenged with
difficulties. 

=>... but individuals are
=>not powerless. One person makes a difference in many people's lives;
=>don't you remember Clinton's grandfather story? One person can change
=>the world: don't you remember Mother Theresa or Mohandas Gandhi or
=>Martin Luther King, Jr., or Jesus Christ?
=
=How kind of you to mention Governor Clinton's grandfather.  The other 
=people you mentioned were only powerful because of their followers, alone 
=they were powerless, well maybe Jesus is the exception but then He is God.

There was also Harry Bailey in "It's a Wonderful Life," but that's
fiction.

There is one more person I didn't mention. Last week a student at
Duke fell out of the rear doors of a campus bus, was run over by the
bus's back wheels and was killed. She was a freshman on her way to
class. This campus has been absolutely devastated by the loss. Monday
afternoon, a memorial service was held -- which unfortunately I could
not attend. I never knew who she was, and I don't think I've ever met
her, but I feel a profound sense of loss and sadness over her death. Now
she didn't have a "following" like the other people I mentioned above,
but she somehow has deeply touched the lives of everyone here, though 
through her death.
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	Biomedical Engineering 1993
	THANK GOD IT'S BASKETBALL SEASON!!!!!
I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
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