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From: gag10@cd.amdahl.com (General)
Newsgroups: ba.market.vehicles
Subject: Looking for vehicle under $1K
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:30:30 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi there,

I have a friend that is looking for a vehicle. Nothing fancy. HE needs
to get from A to B. HE prefers automatic transmission and a wagon type.
Thats it. I know that this is brief but he just needs a vehicle to get
around. If you have something that meets this requirement email me back
and I will him know.

Thanks. 

**** the car must run good *****
From: raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible)
Newsgroups: ba.market.vehicles
Subject: 1970 Toyota Corona
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:48:21 GMT
Reply-To: raible@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: ba
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center


I've got to get rid of an extra car.  I first bought it in 1983, and
have only put 20,000 on it (for a total of 101,000).

Overall:

- 1970 Toyota Corona 4 door in running condition.  Needs some simple
  things done, but is reliable and undamaged.  Goes over highway 17
  (Santa Cruz <-> Los Gatos easily), but I wouldn't do it daily.
- With just a little effort you could easily make a profit on this
  car.  I just don't have the time.


Appearance:

- no dents (really!), a bit of rust (CA car its whole life), but it
  needs paint (or at least some polishing compound).
- the inside is very clean for a 20 year old car.  The only flaw is a
  warped dashboard.  Everything else pristine (but maybe a little
  dirty).


Mechanical condition:

- _Always_ starts (this often amazes me since I often leave it sitting
  for months at a time).
- relatively new tires, although front left has a slow leak.
- needs tune up, minor brake work, new shocks.  Includes tune-up parts.
- small radiator leak (haven't even tried "LeakStop" type stuff).
- Speedometer cable starting to lose it.
- Original radio (AM) works, but is not powered (ask if you care).
- Relatively new clutch and tranny.


The car is currently in my work parking lot, and I have to move it.
First reasonable offer takes it!

Eric (415) 604-4320
raible@nas.nasa.gov
From: gingerk@infmx.informix.com (Ginger Kelly)
Newsgroups: ba.market.vehicles
Subject: `86 Sprint for Sale!
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:53:24 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: gingerk@cobra


           
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                   Excellent commuter/college car for sale 
********************************************************************************
Price reduced - must sell!!!

Model - Chevy Sprint - two-door hatchback, 5-speed

Year - 1986

Color - Gold metallic  (Good condition) 

Miles - 90K

Gas Mileage - 45-50 mpg (No kidding!)

Other - AM/FM stereo cassette
      - Sport side mirrors
      - Clean interior
      - Oil changed every 3-4K miles
      - Regular tune-ups
      - Tires less than two-years old
      - Front brakes are 1 yr old, rear are new!
      - Runs great! Never been in an accident, never needed any service work 
        other than regular maintenance described above.

Price - $2,300/offer

Call Ginger at (415) 926-6028, or reply to email: uunet!infmx!gingerk
From: rzv30@amail.amdahl.com (Rene' A. Vega)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: Buying a house w/o furnace?
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:39:56 GMT
Reply-To: rzv30@amail.amdahl.com (Rene' A. Vega)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation


 conbio@igc.org writes
>> We are looking at purchasing a two bedroom house in unincorporated
>> San mateo county.  The house is heated by a wood stove, and has
>>no furnace.  Our real estate agent thinks that lenders will likely

  Bennett writes
>As you might imagine, sufficient heating is a FHA requirement. A single 
>wood 
>stove is not considered enough to heat a whole house - there will 
>probably be  
>bedrooms without heat sources in them. Unfortunately, space heaters 
>don't  


Wait a minute... What if the house is passive or active solar? My house is 
a passive solar design with a wood stove for supplementary heat, and the 
lender didn't balk at the lack of a heating system.

Rene' A. Vega
From: westphal@sundog.arc.nasa.gov (Doug Westphal)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: local road race info sought
Keywords: 10K, 5M, etc.
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:51:01 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA Ames Atmospheric Science Group

In article <ku14enINNo6t@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> mlaude@semisweet.Eng.Sun.COM (Mary Laude) writes:
>Does anyone have or know where I can get a schedule of
>road races in the SLV area?  I heard there is a race
>in Felton sometime in the near future.  Any info on
>10K races and the like would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>Mary Laude
>mlaude@semisweet.eng.com
>415-336-4153

You might be interested in the St. Andrew's Cinco-de-Milo Run,
a 5.1 mile run on May 2, 1992, starting at 9:00 am. The course
generally follows a loop starting near Ben Lomond, then south
on 9 with an interesting excursion through Highland Park, then
north on Glen Arbor, back to the start.  The course is mostly
flat with some short steep hills.

Cost is $15, includes t-shirt, before April 18, 1992, or
$6, without t-shirt, on the day of the race.
The proceeds go to outreach programs for the valley,
including Valley Churches United, etc.

There are awards for the top three finishers in each class.

There is a carbo-load dinner for $5 at 7 pm on Friday May 1
at the St.  Andrew's Episcopal Church, at the corner of
Riverside and Glen Arbor in Ben Lomond.

Call (408) 336-5994 for an entry blank, or email your address to me
and I'll mail you one.

ps. Expect a small race, with under 100 runners. I ran it two
years ago and placed second in the men's open class. No, I'm
not a runner, there just wasn't much depth in the field:
the first place guy was from the Cabrillo track team and was
out of sight after a mile. They almost gave me the first place
award because the ringer got lost in the 'interesting' loop
through the park and didn't do the entire course. Bring your
compass. :)

pps. T-shirts were nice. Traffic on 9 wasn't a problem.
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
From: ciotti@wk42.nas.nasa.gov (Robert B. Ciotti)
Subject: Re: septic systems and photo chemicals
Keywords: durability of septic ecosystem?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 17:56:53 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <kucm2bINNt11@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes:
>In article <3528@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>>
>>I am a photographer and I want to install a small darkroom in
>>my mountain cottage. By small I mean I will not be producing
>>large volumes of chemicals. I will only be doing black and
>>white film and printing same. My question which is prompted
>>by the recent informed discussion on septic systems is
>>will B&W photo chemicals (in relatively small amounts)
>>kill off the (a, hum..) digestive process occurring
>>in my septic tank? Is there some sort of accelerant which
>>I can add to the system to counteract any harmful effects
>>the chemicals may have? Does anyone have experience with
>>this issue?

 Not having a lot of developing experience, I can't comment
on the toxicity or persistance of the chemicals involved. I would however
urge you not to put inorganic chemicals into the water table. It is
unlikely that they will be bio-degradable. It is also likely that
those chemicals will end up in the wells of the people that live down
the hill from you and that they will be consuming your toxic waste. Even 
if this is only in trace amounts, how much do you think is a *safe level*
of exposure that you would not mind in your water supply?  Is the person
up the hill from you a photographer, farmer, or someone else that is
likely to be dumping chemicals. Scarry thought eh?

There has been a lot of advertisement lately about industrial chemical
contamination of the bay wetlands, and they advertise a number you can
call about information and help on proper disposal, I'll try to listen 
for it next time.
 
 Bob
From: graff@hearty.Corp.Sun.COM (Mark Graff)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: septic systems and photo chemicals
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:18:07 GMT
Reply-To: graff@hearty.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hearty.corp.sun.com

In article 3528@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us, craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us () writes:
>
>I am a photographer and I want to install a small darkroom in
>my mountain cottage. By small I mean I will not be producing
>large volumes of chemicals. I will only be doing black and
>white film and printing same. My question which is prompted
>by the recent informed discussion on septic systems is
>will B&W photo chemicals (in relatively small amounts)
>kill off the (a, hum..) digestive process occurring
>in my septic tank? Is there some sort of accelerant which
>I can add to the system to counteract any harmful effects
>the chemicals may have? Does anyone have experience with
>this issue?

We have a small darkroom in our mountain cottage, too! We sought advice
when setting it up, and finally came to the decision that we would
reserve fixer and toners and let the rest of the stuff go down the sink.
This has worked out well for us. We've had to pay attention to the 
septic tank for other reasons--it's been pumped, inspected, etc.--and
every indication is that  this policy is working out well.

The stuff we keep we've taken in the past to our college photo lab,
with their assent. Where it goes from there, I don't know. However,
I believe that the BFI dump in San Carlos handles chemicals of this
sort, so if I ran out of options I would take it there.

We are doing some work on our septic tank this summer, and have made
more inquiries. If we get any more authoritative info I'll post it
here.
---
Mark G. Graff
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: septic systems and photo chemicals
Keywords: durability of septic ecosystem?
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:08:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <3528@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>
>I am a photographer and I want to install a small darkroom in
>my mountain cottage. By small I mean I will not be producing
>large volumes of chemicals. I will only be doing black and
>white film and printing same. My question which is prompted
>by the recent informed discussion on septic systems is
>will B&W photo chemicals (in relatively small amounts)
>kill off the (a, hum..) digestive process occurring
>in my septic tank? Is there some sort of accelerant which
>I can add to the system to counteract any harmful effects
>the chemicals may have? Does anyone have experience with
>this issue?

The crucial ones are fixer and selenium toner.  Save these in
toxic waste containers.  When you have a lot, take it to be
recycled.  I think Palo Alto might have a recycling center that
can handle it.  I've also heard (but not verified) that 1-hour
photo places will take it for you, since they've got a lot of
stuff to recycle anyway.

Failing that, call the Foothill College photo department and
ask them what they do with it.  I know they recycle.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	That's one thing about going against the flow:  there's
	less traffic in that direction.
From: bennett@adobe.com (Bennett Leeds)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: Buying a house w/o furnace?
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:33:36 GMT
Reply-To: bennett@adobe.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Rene' A. Vega writes
>  conbio@igc.org writes
> >> We are looking at purchasing a two bedroom house in unincorporated
> >> San mateo county.  The house is heated by a wood stove, and has
> >>no furnace.  Our real estate agent thinks that lenders will likely
> 
>   Bennett writes
> >As you might imagine, sufficient heating is a FHA requirement. A single 
> >wood 
> >stove is not considered enough to heat a whole house - there will 
> >probably be  
> >bedrooms without heat sources in them. Unfortunately, space heaters 
> >don't  
> 
> Wait a minute... What if the house is passive or active solar? My house is 
> a passive solar design with a wood stove for supplementary heat, and the 
> lender didn't balk at the lack of a heating system.

The important thing is whether the appraiser feels the house is sufficently  
heated or not. If not, you many still be able to convince him/her by  
demonstration or by getting your own heating "expert" to certify as such. If  
the appraiser doesn't make any mention of insufficient heat, and the seller's  
nondisclosure form doesn't mention it either, you probably won't have any  
problems.

As you state, Rene', your house is not solely heated by the wood stove - it has  
passive solar heating; the wood stove is merely supplemental. For a small cabin  
a single wood stove may be enough, for all I know. 

- Bennett Leeds
From: rzg00@ccc.amdahl.com (Richard Gingell)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: septic and photo chemicals
Keywords: criminal activity?
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:42:21 GMT
Reply-To: rzg00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Richard Gingell)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <3541@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>
>I want to thank the people who responded to  my first posting to
>this group RE: what problems are involved in having a darkroom
>in my cottage as far as chemicals in the septic are concerned.
>The advice about taking selenium and other toners to a toxic
>waste station is well taken. Selenium is nasty stuff. But
>developer and fix would form the bulk of the waste chemistry
>and I think of it as more benign than, say, household cleansers.
>I avoid using those but my concern has peaked with one
>person warning me via e-mail that I would be vulnerable to
>charges of toxic dumping. Further, that I should do everyone
>else a favor and just don't do it.
>Does anyone know if the silver halide remnants are toxic?
>Does silver interact in the bioshpere in any manner akin to
>the way heavy metals do (arsenides,selenium)?
>I was initially concerned that the chemical properties of
>developer or fix might overwhelm the septic system processes
>before the chemistry is broken down into simpler organic compounds.
>
......... more stuff deleted.....

When I was thinking of setting up a darkroom (I never did find the time though)
I called Kodak (1-800-????) to ask about the very points being brought up in
these posts.  The short answer was that any amateur quantity of photographic
chemicals was most unlikely to do any harm provided I made sure that I
diluted them before dumping them into the septic system.
They did insist however that I call my local county offices ("the toxic
waste department") to check on local regulations.  So I called the
relevent chap in Santa Cruz who said 'if Kodak thinks its OK, and your not
doing it profesionally, go ahead').

-- 

		Richard Gingell

		rzg00@amdahl.amdahl.com
		{ames,sun,uunet,decwrl}!amdahl!rzg00
From: craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: septic and photo chemicals
Keywords: criminal activity?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:37:16 PDT
Reply-To: craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Distribution: usa


I want to thank the people who responded to  my first posting to
this group RE: what problems are involved in having a darkroom
in my cottage as far as chemicals in the septic are concerned.
The advice about taking selenium and other toners to a toxic
waste station is well taken. Selenium is nasty stuff. But
developer and fix would form the bulk of the waste chemistry
and I think of it as more benign than, say, household cleansers.
I avoid using those but my concern has peaked with one
person warning me via e-mail that I would be vulnerable to
charges of toxic dumping. Further, that I should do everyone
else a favor and just don't do it.
Does anyone know if the silver halide remnants are toxic?
Does silver interact in the bioshpere in any manner akin to
the way heavy metals do (arsenides,selenium)?
I was initially concerned that the chemical properties of
developer or fix might overwhelm the septic system processes
before the chemistry is broken down into simpler organic compounds.

To the person who sent me the e-mail message with the dire
warning, what do you think happens with the chemistry dumped
from all the commercial and educational darkrooms? I mean
are they dumping toxic waste? How does that affect the sewage 
treatment plants? I really don't know and am interested. I
know most of the silver is reclaimed but are you sure the rest of
the stuff is nasty?

Isn't a leach-field supposed to help all sorts of stuff biodegrade?
I need more info? thanks in advance. craig.
From: craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: septic systems and photo chemicals
Keywords: durability of septic ecosystem?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 23:32:07 PDT
Reply-To: craigc@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Distribution: usa


I am a photographer and I want to install a small darkroom in
my mountain cottage. By small I mean I will not be producing
large volumes of chemicals. I will only be doing black and
white film and printing same. My question which is prompted
by the recent informed discussion on septic systems is
will B&W photo chemicals (in relatively small amounts)
kill off the (a, hum..) digestive process occurring
in my septic tank? Is there some sort of accelerant which
I can add to the system to counteract any harmful effects
the chemicals may have? Does anyone have experience with
this issue?


Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
From: rah@rampart.enet.dec.com (Robert Holt)
Subject: Re: local road race info sought
Keywords: 10K, 5M, etc.
Reply-To: rah@rampart.enet.dec.com (Robert Holt)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:54:29 GMT

You can watch the motorcycles on Skyline do 100 mph on 
most weekends (and theres no charge for the privelege)..
/*-------------------------------------------------------+
 | Robert Holt - Digital Equipment Corp - Palo Alto, CA. 
 |                                                      
 | "We're not shooting enough professors."             
 |          -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov                  
 |                                                   
 | Standard Disclaimer applies...
 +-------------------------------------------------------*/
From: mlaude@semisweet.Eng.Sun.COM (Mary Laude)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: local road race info sought
Keywords: 10K, 5M, etc.
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:00:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: semisweet

Does anyone have or know where I can get a schedule of
road races in the SLV area?  I heard there is a race
in Felton sometime in the near future.  Any info on
10K races and the like would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Mary Laude
mlaude@semisweet.eng.com
415-336-4153
From: rogerv@sco.COM (Roger Vortman)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: Buying a house w/o furnace?
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 19:10:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.


>> We are looking at purchasing a two bedroom house in unincorporated
>> San mateo county.  The house is heated by a wood stove, and has
>> no furnace.  Our real estate agent thinks that lenders will likely
>> look askance at this, and may require the sellers to put in a
>> furnace (!) before we can get a loan.  As we don't WANT a furnace,
>> this could cause unnecessary (to us!) problems.
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with this? 

[responder goes on to say how the same thing happened to him, and a lot
 more...]

I bought a house in 1975 that had only wood heat, but it was owner
financed.  The wood heat was fine, but we were finding that we got too
much condensation in rooms that were closed off.  So we made the minimal
investment of putting in a couple of propane wall heater (permanent
heaters mounted inside the wall that were vented through the roof).
We then ran them at 60 degrees, and that kept the condensation down.

When we sold the house in 1985 our buyers had no problem getting a bank
loan, so the combination of wood heat and wall heaters must have been
sufficient.

What I would suggest is that if you intend to be able to afford to use
the heat, consider putting in a couple of propane wall heaters.  If you
don't think that you ever will care (think about small children in
unheated bedrooms...they can't use an electric blanket) and baseboard
heaters are sufficient, then they will probably be less to buy and
install (but expensive to run).  Either of these options would allow you
not to use them, if you so chose.

Just a couple of suggestions to get by at a lower price than a furnace.
The wall heaters will probably also make the house more attractive to buy
for buyers that are not as committed to wood heat as you are.

-Roger
From: kevin_mcentee@taligent.com (Kevin McEntee)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Paving Over Leach Lines
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:07:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Taligent

Is this a bad idea?  Why?  Is this even legal in Santa Cruz county?  Could
someone reply with the relevant phone number for finding out?

Thanks,

Kevin
From: graff@hearty.Corp.Sun.COM (Mark Graff)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: Buying a house w/o furnace?
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:46:43 GMT
Reply-To: graff@hearty.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hearty.corp.sun.com

In article 3595@adobe.com, bennett@adobe.com (Bennett Leeds) writes:
> conbio@igc.org writes
> > We are looking at purchasing a two bedroom house in unincorporated
> > San mateo county.  The house is heated by a wood stove, and has
> > no furnace.  Our real estate agent thinks that lenders will likely
> > look askance at this, and may require the sellers to put in a
> > furnace (!) before we can get a loan.  As we don't WANT a furnace,
> > this could cause unnecessary (to us!) problems.
> > 
> > Does anyone have experience with this? 

We bought a house near La Honda two years ago. The furnace has rotted
out and is beyond repair, the fireplace can't be used because the fire
box is cracked, and there is no wood stove. However, the house does
have electric baseboard heaters in two rooms downstairs, and that 
solved the loan problem for us. They're not very expensive (~$175, if
you do the work yourself?)--maybe you can get the present owners to
install some (one?). Do it BEFORE the appraisal.

It still gets real cold in the winter. We plan on installing a wood
stove. Oh, and we love the place--it has redeeming features.

Luck.

---
Mark G. Graff
Newsgroups: ba.news.group