HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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X-VMS-To: IN%"JDECK@WILLET.WESLEYAN.EDU"
X-VMS-Cc: IPMDF
Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 92 08:24:00 PST
From:         "Ned Freed, Postmaster" <NED@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: trailing dot
X-To:         JDECK@WILLET.WESLEYAN.EDU, INFO-PMDF@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

The trailing dot syntax for addresses is used by the DNS. The trailing
dot is used to block the addition of a default domain, which is done by
default to any entries in a DNS database. For example, suppose I'm setting
up the DNS for claremont.edu, and for some reason I need to refer to
willet.wesleyan.edu in an entry. If I write "willet.wesleyan.edu" this
will expand to "willet.wesleyan.edu.claremont.edu", which is probably not
what I want. If, on the other hand, I write "willet.wesleyan.edu." I'll
get just "willet.wesleyan.edu" and nothing more.

This special syntax is unique to DNS files; it is never supposed to be
used anywhere else. Unfortunately, it has since leaked out of this
limited application area via the dn_ routine interface to the name resolver
and nslookup. This has since been regretted and the dn_ routines have been
changed so they no longer paste on default domains by default. This
then caused all sorts of problems with software that expected this behavior.
nslookup, however, still does its own thing and it still accepts and
uses the trailing dot syntax. I don't think this is going to change.

Occasionally we get requests to support this syntax in PMDF. We've always
refused to do this because it is a flagrant violation of the standards.

                                Ned
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Content-type: TEXT
Posting-date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:45 EST
Importance: normal
Priority: non-urgent
X-Hop-count: 1
A1-type: MAIL
Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 92 12:07:00 PST
From:         "Sue Ake (814) 863-2524" <SUE@A1.PSUPEN.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Interpretation of delivery failure
X-To:         IPMDF@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l


Ned,

I just figured out the question that I mentioned in my last message:

        ... where did the first "received:" line below get generated?
        Is it a problem with my configuration?

        -> Received: from PSUPEN.BITNET (SMTPUSER) by CORNELLC (Mailer R2.08A)
          (stuff deleted)

I didn't have gateway_user_name = "mailer" in my bitnet_domains_driver.com so,
by default, it ended up as "smtpuser".

I guess if I look long enough, I can actually find what's wrong!

Sue Ake
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 92 12:46:00 PST
From:         Systems <UCCXJPS@VMS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Pmdf Statistics
X-To:         info-pmdf@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

We are needing to know how many mail messages are going from our vms machine
to another site.  How is the best way to find this out?  Thanks for any insights
   .
-- Jim Strother
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:56:00 PST
From:         "Ned Freed, Postmaster" <NED@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Rewriting Sender addr at Router
X-To:         GCJ2567@vax.ets.org, INFO-PMDF@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

It is definitely possible to have PMDF send all Internet-bound mail to an
intermediate node. See the description of the "daemon router" keyword
for TCP/IP channels for additional information.

                                Ned

P.S. Good luck on getting the rewrites you want out of sendmail -- you'll need
it.
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:31:00 PST
From:         SMITH@NYUMED
Subject:      Problems with versions hitting 32767....
X-To:         ipmdf@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l


Just had PMDF fail because the L_LOCAL.LOG file hit the max.  PMDF mailled lots
of warnings, but could not deliver them because....

How about a different strategy here.  When the version limit hits 32000 how
about re-naming all the versions of the log back to version 1 automatically.
If the program is smart enough to figure out that it is that big, doing a
coupole of renames to recify the problem should be a snap.  If getting 32000
as a versioin number is an issue, then a courtesy message to the postmaster
could be sent as well.

Comments?
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X-VMS-Cc: IN%"gregson@kidsa1,kelley@kidsa1",BROOKS
Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 92 11:23:00 PST
From:         "Greg Brooks, Washington University" <BROOKS@KIDS.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject:      Word Perfect/All-in-1 sending PMDF messages
X-To:         info-pmdf@YMIR
X-cc:         gregson@kidsa1.wustl.edu, kelley@kidsa1.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

We have All-in-1 and now Word Perfect for All-in-1. We installed the Message
Router software for Word Perfect (to do conversions) but it does not do them
for PMDF messages. Thus we get postmaster failures on Word Perfect documents
sent from All-in-1 to PMDF-MR.

Is there a cure? Did we configure something wrong? Is there another piece of
software we need to buy?


                                        Greg

================================================================================
Gregory N. Brooks               Director, Pediatric Computing Facilities
Voice: 314 454 2237             Internet: brooks@kids.wustl.edu
FAX:   314 367 3765             Bitnet:   brooks%kids@wuvmd or brooks_g@wums
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Organization: St. Joseph Hospital, Cheektowaga NY
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:16:00 PST
From:         vaughan@SJH.ORG
Subject:      Simple question
X-To:         ipmdf-newsgate@mccall.UUCP
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

--
  Simple question, why doesn't pmdf put the username in lowercase?

Told ya it was a simple question.

--
Internet: vaughan@sjh.ORG
UUCP    : ..!{ames!canisius,doh1c,sigmast,ub}!sjhvax!vaughan
SMSNET  : 40961::vaughan
Where   : Tom Vaughan / Mgr. Comp. Ops./ St. Joseph Hospital /Cheektowaga N.Y.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:33:00 PST
From:         John W Manly <JWMANLY@AMHCHN.AMHERST.EDU>
Subject:      Question about XMAILER.NAMES, DOMAIN.NAMES, and BITEARN.NODES
X-To:         info-pmdf@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

Hello again.

Now I have a question about the DOMAIN.NAMES and XMAILER.NAMES files.  Amherst
College (domain AMHERST.EDU) is connected to both BITNET and Internet.  I
was looking at our entries in the files above, and found the following:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
DOMAIN.NAMES:

:nick.AMHERST.EDU :mailer.SMTPUSER@AMHERST  BSMTP  3   :served.YES
:site.Amherst College
:gatemast.BITMGR@AMHERST        :interconnect.NO
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
XMAILER.NAMES:

:nick.AMHERST :alias.AMHERST :net.BITNET :mailer. :netsoft.JNET
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Do these look right?  Shouldn't we have ":interconnect.YES" in DOMAIN.NAMES
since we ARE on the Internet?  If so, who do we contact about getting
the necessary changes made?

And what is the relationship between these files and the BITEARN.NODES
database maintained by BITNIC.  Do they ostensibly contain any of the same
data?  If so, does either one refer to the other directly, or are there
serious consequences if the two get out of synch?

- John W. Manly  <JWMANLY@AMHERST.EDU>   System Manager -- Amherst College
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 92 10:33:00 PST
From:         "Scott J. Mitchell" <MITCHELL@UTHSCSA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: PMDF accounting stats
X-To:         ipmdf@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

Well, on this campus we have a recession-induced mania for counting things
--CPU cycles, network bandwidth--and when the subject of e-mail comes up
the first question I'm usually asked is "how many messages are we handling?"
This is a simple statistic that can't readily be collected from MAIL.LOG,
at least not in a way that meaningfully reflects the resources being used,
because mail addressed to multiple recipients (or exploded locally to
large lists) is indistinguishable in the log from a series of individual
messages.  One message with fifty recipients generates that many "dequeue"
records, even if they're all deliverable via a couple of network sessions
to other hosts.

On our homegrown channels we do logging on a per-activation basis, so we
can count actual instances of messages being processed.  This gives us a
clearer idea of how much work each of these channels is actually doing
and for whom.  I won't presume to suggest how this might be addressed
generically--I had a muddled idea of a user callback from somewhere in
the core routines which would allow customized logging, which I'm only
too happy to give up.  It does seem to me, though, that only a process
running at the time a message is dequeued (and with knowledge of channel-
specific details like the single and single_sys flags) can generate very
useful "accounting" data.  I was curious about whether other sites had an
interest in the issue.

Scott Mitchell
University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio
mitchell@uthscsa.edu
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 92 13:11:00 PST
From:         GEORGE JOHNSON <GCJ2567@VAX.ETS.ORG>
Subject:      Rewriting Sender addr at Router
X-To:         info-pmdf@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l



    I recently received PMDF software, but haven't had time to install
    it or RTM.  I've been busy installing, configuring and developing
    an understanding of MultiNet.  We recently connected to internet
    with a router between our local network and the internet.  My
    Network manager wants all VAX SMTP mail going to the internet to
    stop at the router so that he can rewrite the senders address.  He
    is using software called SENDMAIL at the router to rewrite the
    senders address.

    Is it possible with PMDF to send internet mail to the router so
    that he can rewrite the sender address.  Thanks for any
    information.

    George Johnson         BITNET:  GCJ2567@ROSEDALE
    ETS                  INTERNET:  gjohnson@ets.org
    (609)734-1774
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Content-type: TEXT
Posting-date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:46 EST
Importance: normal
Priority: non-urgent
X-Hop-count: 1
A1-type: MAIL
Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:03:00 PST
From:         "Sue Ake (814) 863-2524" <SUE@A1.PSUPEN.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Interpretation of delivery failure
X-To:         IPMDF@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l


Ned,

>However, you seem to use PSUPENA.BITNET as your official host name on your
>Jnet channels.

Right again!  I had bitnet_alias = "PSUPENA.BITNET".  This must be a leftover
from when this node wasn't yet part of our cluster.  I just changed it to
"PSUPEN.BITNET" and tried sending a message to test it. Should my bitnet_alias
be "PSUPEN.BITNET" or nothing?  As you can see below, the message made it a
little farther but got bounced when the sender didn't match PSUPEN SMTPUSER.

Batch SMTP transaction log follows:

220 CORNELLC Columbia MAILER R2.08A BSMTP service ready.
050 HELO PSUPEN.BITNET
250 CORNELLC Hello PSUPEN.BITNET
050 TICK 0001
250 0001 ... that's the ticket.
050 MAIL FROM:<SUE@A1.PSUPEN.PSU.EDU>
501-<SUE@A1.PSUPEN.PSU.EDU> does not correspond to RSCS origin of PSUPEN   SMTPU
501 SER
050 RCPT TO:<POSTMASTER@CORNELLC.BITNET>
500 Command ignored due to a previous error.
050 DATA
354 Start mail input.  End with <crlf>.<crlf>
451 Request aborted: command out of sequence
050 QUIT
221 CORNELLC Columbia MAILER BSMTP service done.


Next question... where did the first "received:" line below get generated?  Is
it a problem with my configuration?

Original message follows:

Received: from PSUPEN.BITNET (SMTPUSER) by CORNELLC (Mailer R2.08A) with BSMTP
 id 0785; Thu, 09 Apr 92 15:52:15 EDT
Received: from MRGATE.PSUPEN.PSU.EDU by PSUPEN.PSU.EDU (PMDF #12159) id
 <01GINDGOAVG48X0SK8@PSUPEN.PSU.EDU>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:52 EST
Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:42 EST
  (stuff deleted)
From: connelly@iscsvax.uni.edu (Ken Connelly)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l
Subject: Re: TGV address?
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:17:12 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <01GITUD0XMN48WXHGJ@YMIR.CLAREMONT.EDU>, "Zvonko Orsolic, University of Belgrade" <ZVONKO@YUBGEF51> writes:
> I am searching for e-mail address and fax number of TGV Incorporated.
> If TGV doesn't exist any more, I need the same information for the
> current manufacturer of "Multinet".

TGV is very much in existence today.

> According to the papers I have, Multinet info and orderings should be
> maintained by <service@tgv.com>. Unfortunately, the only answer from
> that address is

service@tgv.com is used for software support.  sales@tgv.com would be an
address to write to for information on obtaining MultiNet.  However that
won't be of any help if you get . . .

>> 550 Host 'tgv.com' Unknown

Sounds like somebody's name server is broken.

I have the following address information for TGV:

    TGV, Inc.
    603 Mission Street
    Santa Cruz, CA  95060

    (800) 848-3440
    (408) 427-4366
    (408) 427-4365 (FAX)

    sales@tgv.com
-- 
===========================================================================
Ken Connelly, Systems/Operations Manager         Internet: connelly@uni.edu
Information Systems and Computing Services
University of Northern Iowa                       USWestNet: (319) 273-2357
Cedar Falls, IA  50614-0121                             FAX: (319) 273-3509
As time goes on, it becomes more and more apparent that elected officials 
should be required to pass a competency test.  Then we wouldn't have any, 
and all would be right with the world!
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 92 11:14:00 PST
From:         "Daniel C. Newman" <DAN@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: I lost the signoff formula for the list (sigh).
X-To:         COLEVE@CC.UVCC.EDU, INFO-PMDF@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

> I appear to have forgotton or misplaced the formula for signing off from
> this mailing list....

> Perhaps a reminder for my benefit might help others, too.

> Please, Sir, what is the incantation?

Send mail to qpmdf@ymir.claremont.edu (qpmdf@ymir.bitnet) requesting to
be removed from the list.  There is no magic incantation -- qpmdf is read
by Ned or myself and we merely remove the entry from the mailing list file.

Dan
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:31:00 PST
From:         "Daniel C. Newman" <DAN@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: TGV address?
X-To:         ZVONKO@yubgef51, INFO-PMDF@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

> I am searching for e-mail address and fax number of TGV Incorporated.
> If TGV doesn't exist any more, I need the same information for the
> current manufacturer of "Multinet".
>
> According to the papers I have, Multinet info and orderings should be
> maintained by <service@tgv.com>. Unfortunately, the only answer from
> that address is

TGV is still in business; their address is

           TGV, Inc.
           603 Mission Street
           Santa Cruz, CA  95060
           USA

           (408) 427-4366          service@tgv.com
           (408) 427-4365 [FAX]

>> 550 Host 'tgv.com' Unknown
>
> What happened to TGV?

This looks like you're having temporary name server difficulties.

Dan
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 92 12:11:00 PST
From:         "Daniel C. Newman" <DAN@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Question about $BITNET$xxx.00 files
X-To:         JWMANLY@amherst.edu, INFO-PMDF@YMIR
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

> 1) What are all these $BITNET$xxxxx.00 files in the PMDF_ROOT:[QUEUE]
>    directory?  They seem to be scattered around in little clumps in terms
>    of creation time, but other than that I can't detect a pattern by looking
>    at them or their contents.  I assume these are files of messages which
>    never made it out of the system, but at what point are they created?  What
>    kind of circumstances, specifically, need to arise for them to appear?
>
>    For example, if the JNET system were shut down when someone sent a message
>    to a BITNET address through PMDF, could that result in such a file?

These files get left behind by Jnet -- they represent messages we were handing
off to Jnet.  If you are running PMDF V4.0, you can simply delete them.  A
duplicate of the message was kept in the appropriate pmdf_root:[queue...]
subdirectory until the message was successfully sent.  If you are running
PMDF V3.2 or earlier, then you have to hand inspect each of the files and
figure out which pmdf_root:[queue...] subdirectory to rename the message
to (with a name of the form ZZxxx.00).

> 2) Assuming they are messages which never made it out, what is required
>    to get them sent on their way?  (The message contents and headers look
>    fine, so I suspect they would just go out normally.)  Do I just need
>    to rename them into one of the channel subdirectories?  (If so, which
>    one?)

See above.

Dan
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 92 12:43:00 PST
From:         rainwatr@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU
Subject:      MR_LOCAL isn't flowing...
X-To:         ipmdf-newsgate@mccall.UUCP
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

        This morning I was informed that mail was not getting out of
Message Router into PMDF.  I took a look around, and found that the PMDF
mailbox in Message Router had about 50 entries backed up in it, the oldest
being from yesterday at around 2:00pm.  I tried a few things, like
restarting all the Message Router processes, etc.  I finally decided to
turn on slave_debug for mr_local, and I executed MASTER.COM thusly:

$ set def pmdf_root:[exe]
$ @master mr_local poll
[Lines containing various address headers (1 set for each message) deleted.]

Processing bodyparts.
TEXT bodypart found.
Bodypart processing is complete.
Content disassembly complete.
Initializing MM for submission.
Processing address list.
MR_RADR called - returning legal envelope address <NADTMAB@UCMVS580.UC.EDU>
MR_RADR called - returning legal envelope address <COOPER@UCBEH>
MR_RADR called - returning legal envelope address <ZSYSCMD@UCMVS580.UC.EDU>
MR_RADR called - returning legal envelope address <NADTJCD@UCMVS580.UC.EDU>
MR_RADR called - returning legal envelope address <SUJATA.PRAKASH@UC.EDU>
MR_RADR called - returning legal envelope address <ZSYSMVS@UCMVS580.UC.EDU>
MR_RADR called - no more addresses, returning RP_EOF
Good addresses found. Continuing...
Processing successful. Terminate submission.
%PAS-F-ARRINDVAL, array index value is out of range
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name     routine name                     line       rel PC    abs PC

                                                           0008BAC2   0008BAC2
                                                           0008B902   0008B902
                                                           0008ADB4   0008ADB4
                                                           000AE60D   000AE60D
                                                           000A83DE   000A83DE
                                                           000A9DD9   000A9DD9
MR_SLAVE        DOSUBMIT                         3154      00000556   0000CCC6
MR_SLAVE        MR_SLAVE                         3175      0000000C   0000D318
$ goto out1
$ out1:
$ delete pmdf_root:[log]mr_local_master_dirlst_2023CA3E.tmp;*


        So mr_slave is dumping out because of an array problem.  Any ideas
about why this would be happening?  Thanks for any help.
--
Don Rainwater, Systems Manager, Univ. of Cincinnati Center for IT Services
Don.Rainwater@UC.Edu
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Organization: Williams College
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:42:00 PST
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was usenet@WILLIAMS.EDU
From:         Mark Berman <berman@WILLIAMS.EDU>
Subject:      Rule matching left of the '@'
X-To:         ipmdf-newsgate@mccall.UUCP
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l


This may be a wierd question, but is there any way to to rule matching in the
 username section of the destination address. We have a situation where all of
 out internet mail routing is handled by a unix box to which PMDF sends all out
 outbound mail and from which it receives most inbound. The exception is BITNET
 mail which comes directly to our VAX via an IP encapsulated JNET link. We are
 currently advertising addressing of the form firstname.lastname@Williams.EDU
 for Internet addressing and are running in





to situations where people will try to use that form from BITNET. Worse than
 that, we have run into at least one situation where the foreign mailer, smoehow
 realizing that Williams was on the BITNET remapped Williams.EDU to
 Williams.BITNET.

A solution to this would be to parse the "." on the left of the "@" and send
 the message to our primary mail router for delivery. We really don't want to
 enter all the aliasing to translate first.last to username in two locations.

Any advice?

        Mark Berman
        Director of Technical Services
        Williams College

        Mark.Berman@Williams.EDU (at least as long as you're not sending BITNET)
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