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From: ala@fico.uucp
Subject: Re: The older woman
Keywords: Stef Jones
Reply-To: ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley)
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies, San Rafael, California
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:42:08 GMT

In article <davidj.722223501@wrs.com> davidj@wrs.com (David Jones) writes:
>Stef Jones writes (among other things):
>"The older woman flirts with a self-controlled awareness
>which can make her assaults much more deadly than the
>blind rushes of the young"
But after a while it gets to be like shooting fish in a barrel.  There
is no challange.  I mean, you look at them, they fall at your feet
panting, and so on.  :)
>
>I know you've heard this one before (an ``older woman'' has most likely
>herd it ALL before), but, what constitutes an older woman?
anybody a day or more older than you are.
>
>And, in your response to "Got some phone numbers?" you excitedly reply:
>	*clank* *rattle*
>	<four metallic snaps>
>	"I'll be back for you later. Maybe."
>but, my God, do you have to shackle and leave him at
>the mercy of the elements before he even gets your name?
I would have gaged him as well.
>
>Besides, handcuffs chaff.  I prefer a softer cotton rope.
That's why they make lined shackles.  Iron outside, padding and velvet 
on the inside.  No marks.

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: elau@berlioz.nsc.com (Eugene Lau)
Subject: Re: Blood types
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation, Santa Clara
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:38:29 GMT

In article <lg8potINNhhj@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
>So, is there any truth to the blood type and personality relationship?
>I had lunch with a friend today who claims that this is true, and so
>does my mother.  Incidentally, so do most Chinese people.  This is the
>approximate breakdown:
>
>	 A	Love a person forever, wait for someone forever
>	 B	(Sorry, forgot)
>	 AB	Fluctuates, quickly gets in and out of infatuations
>	 O	Warm, logical
>
>Of course, I found this rather difficult to believe.  There must be
>more than four types of people in this world!  But, I'm an AB and I do
>fall in and out of infatuation rather easily.  My friend's an A and
>she will wait hopelessly for this dumb, rude AB guy.
>
>	-- Anita --

say what?  I'm chinese, but I've never heard of this.  I waited forever for
someone, but my blood type is B.  can I borrow your blood, I want to stop
waiting now.  but don't worry, I won't be rude and dumb.

eugene

Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:18:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.223946.14114@ryn.mro4.dec.com> tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang) writes:
>
>>On a serious note, I have a couple of questions to pose to the net about what
>>can affect a male's sex drive.  Basically, I am about 29 (male), have been
>>SO-less for the last 4 years (by choice), and have recently met an incredible
>>woman (about 31) with, to put it lightly, a very high sex drive.  My sex drive
>>has reduced markedly over the past 4 years, and I would like to do what I can
>>to increase it
>
>	....just lie back in the tub and think pleasant thoughts......ahhhh...
>	..chicken-pot pie...chocolate-covered raisins......glazed ham!!!  :-)

Beige......definitely beige......
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:01:32 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
 <1992Nov17.000122.2248@netcom.com> <1992Nov17.205924.11582@b8.b8.ingr.com>
 <lgipf2INN78a@news.bbn.com> <MARTINC.92Nov18123935@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>

Um, Charlie, have you ever had some cute wee slip of a thing come
after you with intent to do bodily harm?

The other thing is that Dawn is probably not actually threatening
(in terms of what she's conveying by body language, etc.) as
stating intent.  Shorts circuits all the macho chest pounding.

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: How to explain?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 22:18:59 GMT


>>Just tell them that you're going to visit friends. Have you been across the
>>border lately? It's not very difficult.

Not usually. Had no trouble sneaking Old Ezra from 
Albany,NY to Montreal,Qc on several occasions behind
the plastic panels in the hatchback of my Firebird!

>that's what you think. last time i tried to cross the border in a car [volvo],
>this guard, who bore a disturbing resemblance to harry dean stanton, asked
>me the question "have you ever been arrested, detained, etc., for anything?"
>THREE TIMES, and when i answered "no" the third time, looked at me and
>said "for *anything*?". such distrust.

Once we were in my friend's LADA(like a Fiat 128 
but built in what used to be the Soviet Union.)

At the NY/QC interface, Canada Customs asked him
if he had anything to declare. He said,"Errr, not really."
Forgive the man...He was foolish enough to buy a RussianCar!

(Good thing my other friend went to the toilet when they 
searched the car. He had 3 Grams of HASH in his shoe!!!)

>that was getting out of canada. getting out of the u.s. was even more 
>seriously weird. it was midnight [same crossing: Winnipeg/Grand Forks, n.d. - 
>looks like an outhouse 15 miles from the back door], and after the guard
>carefully explained that he was there to "interdict drugs and guns", we
>thought it only fair to explain that we "hadn't been able to find any".
>which was true. he sort of glared at us, and muttered "well, good". we left.

The Windsor/Detroit crossing(American side of tha Ambassador Bridge)
has to be the toughest crossing for a Canadian in a Red Sports Car
with all his Personal Belongings along for the ride!!

Been there, done that.

dreas

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:07:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.151315.4882@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>
>Just last night the guy at the pizza place said something
>about "your castle"!  I stared at him for a good 30 seconds
>before realizing what he was talking about.  Grrr!

Castle WetWare?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
From: mmwang@adobe.com (Michael Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: nkill
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:03:50 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <74245@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>>>
>>>     Affirmative Action is simply reverse discrimination.  Minorities
>>>here in California receive extra points on their exams for state jobs
>>>just because they are a minority.  Here is a hypothetical example:
>>>A person receives 5 extra points if that person is a minority.
>>>Person W, a non-minority, earns a 95 score on the exam.  Person M,
>>>a minority, earns a 91 score on the exam and gets 5 extra points which
>>>gives her a total of 96.  Person M will be hired, although she is less
>>>qualified than person W, because she is a minority.  That is clearly wrong.
>> 
>I don't know how many more points someone gets for being a member of a 
>minority group, but I question whether someone with a 95 score is "more 
>qualified" than someone with a 90 score. That small a spread could be 
>affected by anything. 
>
>If my argument is correct, that means the two candidates are equally
>qualified. The real question to ask about affirmative action is whether you
>should give precedence to a member of a minority group who is equally as
>qualified as someone who is not a member of a minority group.

I'm afraid it is not so simple. If you look at college admissions,
particularly at the top schools, you will see that some individuals in
targeted minority groups are granted admission over other applicants
who are much more qualified. For example, Berkeley in the late 80's
consistently admitted blacks who scored 4,800 out of 8,000 on their
academic index (mixture of grades, test scores, etc.). Whites needed
at least 7,000 to get in, while Asians with a score of 7,000 only had
a 50% chance of being admitted. Unfortunately, this preferential
treatment of blacks does not seem to be helping most of them. More
than 60% of the blacks admitted to Berkeley drop out, which is twice
the drop out rate of whites and Asians.

-- 
Michael Wang
mmwang@mv.us.adobe.com
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Wendy Nather)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:23:08 GMT
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>I dunno, Stef, this time I have to side with your ex-SO; offhand, I can't
>think of a single piece of furniture I own that wasn't bought used--and
>I'd hate to give up my old multi-hundred-pound solid walnut desk 
...

Yeah, sure, Trygve, that's all fine and good, but how many single
people have a lifestyle that lets them spend lots of time at
garage sales?  I would love to be able to shop around for the best
buy or a they-just-don't-make-'em-like-that-anymore piece of
furniture, but I barely have time to keep diet Coke in the fridge.
When I need something, I want the closest and most convenient place
to buy it, FAST, and I don't particularly care whether it was
the best buy or not.

So I'll tell you what -- how about if I keep you, and you can
spend your days furniture-shopping for me? ;-)

Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Seriousness.
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:06:02 GMT
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus

In article <1992Nov16.020712.25404@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>
>My definition of seriousness in a relationship is that things
>are getting serious when both partners agree to move in together.
>
>What is your definition?

It's a good indicator, but by no means fool-proof.  Some people move in
together rather casually these days, and others maintain separate
residences for years.  How 'bout calling it "serious" when the people
involved decide to?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: Seriousness.
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:50:16 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.020712.25404@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>
>My definition of seriousness in a relationship is that things
>are getting serious when both partners agree to move in together.
>
>What is your definition?

Kids or marriage.

Kev.
--
From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Distribution: na
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Robert Thurlow (thurlow@convex.com) wrote:
: In <1992Nov21.183937.8835@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
: 
: >BTW, here's my new .signature, how do you like it?
: 
: If you send out that many bytes with every message you send, your
: news admins will probably pull the plug on you in a matter of days.
: And I'll be cheering.

It'll help when my attorney gets hold of the sys admin there, and tells him
the facts of life... we pay for bytes transferred in mail and news.

-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
Port Jefferson Station, NY
(516) 331-9001
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:57:59 -0500 
From: "Francis J. Yenca" <fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Smiles, Food, and Other Ways of Seducing Women
	<74468@apple.apple.COM>

Stef Jones writes:

>fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Francis J. Yenca) writes:

>>Dave Johnson writes:

>>>Stef Jones writes:
>>>>I usually want to sleep with a guy if he smiles a lot at me. 

>>>:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  (etc.)
>>>
>>>Is it working?

>>Yep.  I knew I wouldn't be first on this one.

>But yours only had one :-)  : much more subtle. 

Do you like subtle?

Frank
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:21:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.111603.28624@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>Trygve   (Who wonders how long he has to wait for this whole "sexual peak"
>          business to get over with--it was supposed to start going down
>          ten years ago and still seems to be on the rise.) 

I've got some bad news for you, Trygve: twenty years after what was
supposed to have been my peak, I find that I might finally have
plateaued.  At least I'm not climbing so fast anymore :-)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: **FIRST*DATE*IDEAS**
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:43:40 GMT

In article <9677@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, slayer@cislabs.pitt.edu (Deborah) writes:
> 
>  That sounds really great.. I would suggest inviting her over for a nice home
>  cooked meal.. Just find out what she likes and dislikes..
> 

My cooking??? Very dangerous.

>  My first date with my fiancee consisted of a right on a trolley.. Just for
>  the heck of it.. It was great we had such a good time because we were together
>  and we still are..
> 

Interesting concept, I've never asked anyone to fly to San Francisco with me
for the weekend, so we can ride a trolley.

>  
Larry Billings
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Netcom - San Jose, CA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:35:24 GMT

In article <15602@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <98562@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>>In article <By0L67.C6s@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>|
>|>Au contraire, high-heeled shoes are used to create a supernormal stimulus,
>|>just like lipstick, neck rings, brassieres, corsets, bustles, and foot-
>|>binding.  
>|
>|They also landed me on crutches for the past three months.  I just
>|recently burned my last pair of high heels.  They sat on the log in the
>|fireplace for a few moments, then -- WHOOSH!  They burst into flame.
>|
>|It was extremely gratifying.
> 
>Interesting.  Women used to burn their brassieres.  Men didn't complain.  
>I wonder what'll happen if women start burning their highheeled shoes.
> 

     I'd imagine that the men would clap and say "good riddance."

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:09:03 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov18123935@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <lgipf2INN78a@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>
	a  threat deleted

>I still can't figure out why it is that Dawn, who is a small cute
>brunette with a nice smile, gets results this way, while *I* -- looking 
>rather like Bluto, with a black belt, a decent knife thrower and an
>expert shot with a pistol -- get *laughs* when I threaten violence.

	I just read  a fascinating book called 'Chimpanzee Politics'.
In Chimpanzees, gender appears to have an effect on the manner  in
which conflicts are created and resolved. One neat  bit was that male
violence-in-pursuit-of-social-rank is less likely to involve actions
like biting  (Male   chimpanzees have  huge canines;  using them  is
potentially lethal). Perhaps human females are more  likely to resort
to overt violence  than males, and  their threats are taken more 
seriously. 

	Careful pre-selection  of  data shows support for this: typical
romance movies like 'single  white female' and 'basic instinct'  indicate
courtship and general interaction with females is percieved to be rather 
dangerous for human males.

							James Nicoll
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:47:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.200903.9152@julian.uwo.ca> jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>	I just read  a fascinating book called 'Chimpanzee Politics'.

The subtitle is _Power and Sex Among Apes_.  The book was written by Frans
de Waal.  The new 1989 paperback edition was published by Johns Hopkins
University Press and is ISBN 0-8018-3833-9.  It's the best book about the
practical aspects of power politics since _The Prince_.  The stories about
The Great Escape and Dandy and the Grapfruits are neat, too.

>In Chimpanzees, gender appears to have an effect on the manner  in
>which conflicts are created and resolved. One neat  bit was that male
>violence-in-pursuit-of-social-rank is less likely to involve actions
>like biting  (Male   chimpanzees have  huge canines;  using them  is
>potentially lethal).

In _Peacemaking Among Primates_ (1989, Harvard University Press, ISBN 0-674-
65921-X), de Waal compares the reconciliation behaviors of five primates, and
in the chapter on chimps he continues his account of the political maneuverings
of Yeroen, Luit, and Nikkie.  Violence finally erupts, and one of these
politicians is killed.  (The other primates are two species of monkeys,
bonobos, and humans.)

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:50:43 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Seriousness.
 <1992Nov19.080916.17490@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>

What about 'accepting an obligation to be (as nearly as possible as
the limitations of mortality permit) as honest to, and honoring of,
the other as one is of one's self' as a definition of serious?

Or is that too mystical? :]

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:49:52 GMT

In article <JMD.92Nov17112736@lion.bear.com>, jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
> 
> In article <1e9c48INNc5d@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
> 
>    Me, I wouldn't work in a place where I was expected to get dressed up
>    unless I was *really* desperate, which I'm not.  Heck, I don't even own
>    a dress, and I wouldn't be caught dead in high heels either.
> 
> Yeah, I said that too, before they offered me more than twice the
> salary offered me by anyplace else...
> 
> If I had taken the runner up (which didn't require wearing a suit/tie)
> I would now be making less that a quarter of my present income.  
> In fact, I would be lucky to be working at all, since that was at 
> a military contractor which just had several thousand layoffs...
> 
> I think that's a reasonable trade-off...
> 
> 
> Spidey!!!
> 

Let me make sure I have this correct.  You are now working as a defense
contractor wearing a dress and high heels?  :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
> //\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
> /  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:46:33 GMT
	<1992Nov17.205924.11582@b8.b8.ingr.com> <lgipf2INN78a@news.bbn.com>
	<MARTINC.92Nov18123935@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
	<92324.030132SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA's message of 19 Nov 92 08:01:32 GMT

In article <92324.030132SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Graydon) writes:

   Um, Charlie, have you ever had some cute wee slip of a thing come
   after you with intent to do bodily harm?

Are we counting the property settlement in my divorce?
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      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:31:43 GMT

In article <74382@apple.apple.COM> pooh@Apple.COM (Wendy Nather) writes:
>
>I'd rather see a man who can wear anything with style rather
>than someone who is trying desperately not to Conform To
>the Bad Guys and is therefore wearing the standard issue
>P.C. jeans-and-t-shirt (optional black leather jacket).
>A *real* nonconformist wears whatever he damn well pleases,
>whether it be Bermuda shorts or a tuxedo.

Interesting.  I was recently "forced" into purchasing a leather jacket
at the behest of my ProblemOlderWoman, and I've been somewhat surprised
at the positive reactions I've been getting.  Of course, I also get
stares when I dress up, too.....

>Remember: everyone in this room is wearing a uniform, and
>don't kid yourselves.  (F. Zappa)

Yup.  That I'll agree with.

PS: So.  How's Switzerland?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
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