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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Models
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:45:06
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk's message of 1 Oct 92 09:47:43 GMT

>>>>> On 1 Oct 92 09:47:43 GMT, Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith) said:

Smith> I've just been browsing through the archive site (wpi.wpi.edu,
Smith> thanks Scott!), and it struck me how short the list of models
Smith> was - there were *so* many other objects that would make great
Smith> models.  So here's my wish list for some new models I'd like to
Smith> see...

Welcome

Smith> People ------

Smith> Only releasing Darth Vader is a bit poor!  I understand he's
Smith> impresive looking, bound to be popular etc.  I'd like to see at
Smith> least Han, Luke, Chewie and Leia released on the same sort of
Smith> scale as the screamin' Darth (but on a much smaller price
Smith> scale!)

The Vader kit was a bit pricey, but it is nice. No I haven't built it yet. 

Smith> Scenes ------

Smith> Rebel base on Hoth

The Rebel Base in my list is the Hoth Base. I will update the file.

Smith> Jabba's Palace

Also Jabba's Throne Room is on the list.
--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
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From: sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Re: * Star Wars movies on cassette....LETTERBOXED!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:23:59 GMT

AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!

And my mother just bought me the entire trilogy on P & S last
Christmas!!

How am I ever going to break this to her???

--
Language is a virus from Outer Space.      |-----------------------------|
And hearing your name                      | Steve Tilson                |
Is better                                  | sdt8s@poe.acc.virginia.edu  |
Than seeing your face.   (Laurie Anderson) |-----------------------------|
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.tv
From: watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC)
Subject: Re: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:35:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.124247.6330@meaddata.com> sharonc@meaddata.com writes:
> Let me second this opinion: Last night's episode (Indy fights in The Somme)
> was one of the most powerful and moving pieces of episodic tv that I have
> ever seen. The battle scenes, choreographed to the very somber music, were
> incredibly gut-wrenching. This show deserves as many Emmy awards as it can
> cart away, IMHO.

I was impressed by the gas mask/flame thrower scene (except for the
fact that they should have just shot the guys with the flame throwers ...
was this supposed the be the first ever use of the weapon?  
That would explain why they all just ran away). 

But I was amazed at the amount of money they must have
spent just for the few shots of the germans advancing, even the horses,
in gas masks.  I can't think of any movie that have ever depicted
a WWI gas attack in such detail and with so many extras.

>Question with spoiler attached (I hope the Control-L works):


> Is Indy's friend Remy' dead? I know that he was at least seriously injured in

He was not immediately killed.  He is heard crying out "Indy, my leg!",
just before Indy is captured.



So when is Indy going to meet the Ravenwoods? 

John S. Watson, Civil Servent from Hell          ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov
HOMEBREW NAKED! --- Ursus cerevisiae nudium  (The Bare Beer Bear)

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From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Auction Near! ESB figures with REVENGE of the Jedi ads on packag
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:53:46 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

z_cartheybr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:

> In article <Bv37Ir.BDI@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, cleaver@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Russell
> >> 	Think we should make a newsgroup rec.arts.sf.starwars.forsale
> >> by now?!?!? 
> > 
> > I second the motion.
> > -- 
> > Russ Cleaver                    
> > cleaver@csugrad.cs.vt.edu      
> 
> 
> All in favor, say I!!!
> 
> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.......
> 
> --Blitz

If you guys go through with this may I suggest the alternate names:
        rec.arts.sf.starwars.marketplace
        rec.arts.sf.starwars.collectables

which IMHO sounds better than rec.arts.sf.starwars.forsale



                                        - Sasha

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From: ESL108@psuvm.psu.edu (Eric Leven)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Anakin's last words
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:27:59 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

For those who really DO want to know (apparantly, the last couple posts were
either wrong, or didn't make sense) the line was:

"Luke, tell your sister...you were right about me. You were right."

Eric
From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Related Star Wars Question
Date: 6 Oct 1992 21:58:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, yyrkoon@lucky.engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Jon Kabbe) says:

>
>Ok, so you're Darth Vader, lord of evil (just pretend for a few minutes) and
>you are fighting your arch nemesis. Your rival and you are fighting pretty 
>even up when he suddenly looks away. WHY would you just stand there and wait
>until Obiwan looked back and stood there in that "sacrificial position" before
>he killed him. Was Vader going soft or what? What kind of lord of evil is he
>anyways?  If I were Vader I would have sliced into Kenobi the second he took his
>eyes off me.  Just a thought.
>
>Jeff Kabbe = yyrkoon
>


That's because you're just not evil ENOUGH.  To kill him when he was
looking away?  It would rob you of the pleasure of seeing the abject
terror in his eyes as he saw the blade carreening through the air 
towards his throat.

Hm.  I think I'll go work on my novel now.

----  TJ

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                  Still waiting for Radish Dude ...
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's Tie Fighter
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:09:19
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: 's message of Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:18:51 EDT

>>>>> On Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:18:51 EDT, <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> said:

MWEINTR> In my ROTJ era poster of the Millenium Falcon escaping a
MWEINTR> buttload of TIE fighters and DSII in the background, there is
MWEINTR> another similar octagonal TIE fighter (like Vader's in ANH)
MWEINTR> in the poster, I don't recall if it's in the actual movie
MWEINTR> though...

Those are TIE Interceptors. They look like a standard TIE, but the
wing are a different shape. They had the bend in them, but wer longer
in the front, and came to two points. 

MWEINTR> I was always under the assumption that since the octagonal
MWEINTR> TIE fighters look 'slicker' than the standard box-shaped TIE,
MWEINTR> that they were for higher ranking officers and various Lords
MWEINTR> of the Sith...

They are mearly an upgrade of the old TIE. Fast, more manuverable.

MWEINTR> Of course, I could be wrong, but that rarely happens :P

MWEINTR> Also, someone mentioned posting a synopsis of that Lucas
MWEINTR> interview that comes out next week, but aren't there people
MWEINTR> who would kindly post *the whole thing* for us unfortunate
MWEINTR> non-Fan Club members?  Or post it to wpi.wpi.edu (Thanks
MWEINTR> Scott, now if I can figure out how to convert the files for
MWEINTR> VMS...)

I did ask around for a VMS uncompression for Unix .Z files, but no
luck yet. Sorry all you VMS users. But my disk space is shrinking
every day. There must be a converter out there somewhere though...

--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: pwg25888@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Patrick W. Grady)
Subject: Re: Z-95?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:03:11 GMT

kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu (Sean Kennedy) writes:

>cleaver@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Russell Cleaver) writes:

>>"I used to bullseye womp-rats in my T-16 back home; they're not much bigger
>>than two meters."

>>So I guess Luke's landspeeder was *not* his T-16, correct?
>>Or maybe it was?...

>	From the radio series Luke also refers to his T-16 has his "Sky
>Hopper."  It most definately is not his landspeeder.


>			--Sean Kennedy
>			  kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu

	The Star Wars Sketchbook has a pic of the T-16 in it.  The book is 
worth what mom payed for it when it came out just for the art.  The art is
india ink drawings of ships, vehicles and Death Star module plans.

	There was one for the Empire Strikes Back also (i think, it has been
10 years since i looked at them)

	If you could possibly find one of these books, BUY IT. 



Patrick Grady

Star Wars on the big screen, a religious experience.
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: FTP site: decompression probs?
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:40:40
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: scostant@cc.curtin.edu.au's message of Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:30:31 GMT

>>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:30:31 GMT, scostant@cc.curtin.edu.au said:

scostant> Well I can get into the ftp site, I can download the items,
scostant> but I can't decompress any of them. I am using a vax/vms
scostant> system to transfer the files, then trying to decompress them
scostant> on a macintosh.  I have downloaded just about every
scostant> decompressor from the popular mac ftp sites, but none of
scostant> them will decompress files with the <filename>.Z extension.
scostant> Any ideas?  I am unable to view any of the gifs.  I have
scostant> been in touch with SS@wpi.wpi.edu and it seems my viewer
scostant> isn't good enough to read them.(QuickGif for the mac).  Can
scostant> anyone help? It's most frustrating being able to get hold of
scostant> the files, but not be able to do anything with them!

Well the files with the .Z suffix are a Unix compression. Your on a
VAX , and the 2 are totally uncompatable. In Unix all you have to do
is type   uncompress file.Z   As for your MAC problem I know 0 about
MAC's. One question though. Did you download the .gif files in Binary
mode? If not, that's you problem. Just type  bin  at the ftp> prompt
before you download them. Good luck.
--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Yoda conversation
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:30:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep28.223026.1859
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <BvAqFD.I3z@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
cs125a85@dcl-nxt24.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:

>I have a question regarding Yoda's statement in ESB.  He says something to  
>the effect of: For 800 years have I trained your dad,......" Then I'm not  
>sure exactly what he says.  All I know is that the last word of his next  
>sentence is "trained"....then he continues to say "A jedi must hold the  
>deepest commitment, the most serious mind."......
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>Thanks
>
>Amir
>
>      "Try not, Do, or do not, there is no try."
>                                      -Yoda


I think the conversations went something like this:

"...For 800 years have I trained Jedi, by my own council will I continue,
who is to be trained...."

I may be off a little, but that is more or less what he said...

Dave
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: X-WING
Organization: Finnish University and ResearcH Network, FUNET
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 20:49:50 GMT

In article <wyman.717861914@opal8> wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman) writes:
>joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>
>>has anyone seen the latest issue of COMPUTER GAMING WORLD (I think that's 
>>the title)? The cover has a picture of an X-Wing and there is an article
>>inside on the new LucasArts simulator. It looks great!!!! And from the
>>way they talk about the game in the article, the movement of the
>>simulation should be very good.
>
>Better yet, if you have a PC you can see a slide show of pictures from the
>upcoming game.  I got mine from GEnie but someone will probably upload it
>to the net soon.  Looks hot.  Well.....for a game ;)

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE someone upload it to some anonymous ftp site -
the Star Wars site (Was it wpi.wpi.edu?) comes first to my mind... 

Tapio
From: martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Martin Caden)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Why Endor? OR The Economy of Galaxy Farfaraway
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:57:59 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: zen.maths.uts.edu.au


In <92269.192736DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Well, if you go by Heir to the Empire ( not that you should ) , Coruscant was
>supposedly the Imperial throneworld.
> .......                                    Now, is this the "bright center
>of the universe"? Is it a long way from the common locales of the SW films?

Coruscant was indeed the "throneworld" - but this does not necessarily mean
that it is in (or near) the industrial heartland (or even near the centre) of
the Empire.  Zahn spent a lot of time discussing (or having the characters
discuss) just why certain Jedi chose to live where they lived.  Perhaps there
is something "unusual" Force-wise about Coruscant (see the current discussion
about Delta source) that made it an ideal home for Palpatine.

I get the feeling that the SW galaxy has the benefit of fast/cheap travel and
that their definition of remote would be similar to what a European would
think of countries in Asia in the era of the 747/400.

--
  Cheers,   O
           /|\ Martin Caden                   School of Mathematical Sciences
           /^\ martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au    University of Technology, Sydney
From: umwieb69@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Michael J. Wiebe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Fern Gully
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:15:00 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Just a bit of trivia, can someone tell me the two quotes used in Fern Gully thatwere taken from Star Wars?  I believe they were both said by Batty (?).  The 
reason I ask is because I don't have access to a copy an remembered finding it
somewhat amusing that they would 'borrow' quotes from a movie like SW for a 
movie like Fern Gully.

Brent Wiebe
umwieb69@ccu.umanitoba.ca

-- 
"Infinite:  Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some.  Much bigger than
that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real 'wow,
that's big' time.  Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself
looks really titchy.  ... huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here."
From: joshuali@phakt.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Amanaman: Who is he?
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:34:51 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep29.124911.2175@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> petra@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>OK, all you STAR WARS junkies, I got question for you.  Who is Amanaman?  Did
>he appear in any of the movies, or is he a figment of Kenner's imagination?  A
>couple of my friends and I would really like to know.  E-mail or post(readers
>discretion).

Amanaman appeared in Jedi and he is not that hard to find.  After Jabba says,
"...I like Captain Solo where he is..." there is a pan left and up against
the archway on the right is is our old pal Amanaman. His mouth is opening and
closing. I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN FIND HIM. I'm not sure. All of the 
figures that Kenner made were real creatures and characters. (Except the 
Blue Snaggletooth- I don't think he was in there anywhere.)

I want to know why they made a figure for Prune Face. WHY  WHY WHY WHY WHY?
You don't see their faces in the film. And you have to REALLY look to see 
them at all. Kenner makes  a Prune Face figure and then they skip over
Mon Mothma.

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From: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: SW on Sci-Fi channel
Date: 1 Oct 1992 21:13:57 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yaya.wpi.edu

	Did anyone see Star Wars on the first night of the Sci-Fi cable
channel?  Anything interesting to report (i.e.- restored footage, interviews,
news, etc.)?  Thanks.

-- 
Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu
From: arang@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Mark Hamill's real age/birthday
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:27:34 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

For those of you jumping around Mark Hamill's age, he turned 41 on September
25, 1992. Not 40 not 43.  He was born Sept. 25, 1951. I know this from an
official  Mark Hamill Fan Club. It's also very easy for me to remember because
he's almost exactly 20 years older than I am (Yes I love trivial bits of
info...I'm a writer, that's my life).

Amy Rang
Wright State University
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: bragg@pineapple.cns.udel.edu (Batmite)
Subject: Vader vs. Jawas
Keywords: jawas have restraing bolts...Vader lightsaber
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: galactic
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:55:54 GMT


	I was thinking about all these _______ v. _______ threads and I a friend
made some Jawa sounds for me (I'll post them soon) and I was thinking...
	If Darth Vader fought the Jawas who would win?
	I realize that this sounds silly, but hey, if the Ewoks can kick a few
battalions of Imperial forces, then this doesn't sound too far fetched.  
Especaially since the Jawas are more technologically adavenced than the Ewoks,
though the Jawas haven't mastered flight.
	I think the Jawas would fire a engergy bolt like they did with R2 in
ANH, put restraining bolt on Vader, suck him up into a sandcrawler and get a 
good price from a farmer looking for a security 'droid(tm).
	Since Vader is more machine than man (at least Obi-Wan tells us this and
you know his track record for telling the truth) the Jawas would win.
	I figure after that 'ILM are amteurs' thread we could use even a bigger
laugh...


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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:22:39 GMT


>In article <91594@netnews.upenn.edu> worthm@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael A Worth) writes:
>>
>>Who was born first, Luke or Leia?
>>
>>Opinions are nice, documented facts are nicer.

I seem to remember Vader telling Luke in ROTJ, "So...you have a twin
sister."  That seems to answer the question rather neatly.

As for who came out of the womb first...you got me.


                                        --Steve Stelter
                                          sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kim@i812.enet.dec.com (H. Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Episodes I-III on tv?
Keywords: tv
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:22:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Someone told me that before Star Wars, episode IV, that the first three 
episodes were aired as "made for tv" movies.  Is this true?  I was too young
to remember such movies.  Why haven't they been re-aired?  Does anyone
remember these movies?  Or is this just some rumor?  There was also talk of 
a fourth movie before the release of SW:ANH.  It was something about
the wookie/empire conflict.  Can anyone expound on these?

Howard 
Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.starwars:6589 rec.arts.tv:18873
From: jseaver@buckaroo.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Date: 30 Sep 1992 02:02:05 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: buckaroo.wpi.edu

In article <BvCEwr.I0E@news.udel.edu> paris@brahms.udel.edu (Paris H Magasiny) writes:
>>Let me second this opinion: Last night's episode (Indy fights in The Somme)
>>was one of the most powerful and moving pieces of episodic tv that I have
>>ever seen. The battle scenes, choreographed to the very somber music, were
>>incredibly gut-wrenching. This show deserves as many Emmy awards as it can
>>cart away, IMHO.
>
>
>I also was impressed by the quality and depth of the show.  Very much a
>television stand out.  It seemed obvious to me that a lot more money was
>being spent on this show than normal tv...it seemed more like a
>mini-film.
>
>However, I was wondering just what audience they are trying to target.
>The intensity of the battle scenes on this weeks show were enough to
>make me very uncomfortable....and I believe that was the intent--to
>show how hellish war is.  But if they are aiming for a fairly young, say
>teenage audience (which they seem to be with their young star) then I
>would think the violence was very strong for an 8 p.m. time slot?
>
>Comments?
>
>Paris H. Magasiny
>Newark, DE

	That's my biggest concern, too.  Before I left for school, I'd tape it
(it was on Wednesdays at 9) and watch it with my 7-year-old brother the next
day.  He loved it, especially the ones with the really young Indy.  But I think
I would be REALLY uncomfortable watching "The Somme" with him.

	btw, I've gotten Matt to become a real Star Wars addict.  He's reading
my copy of Heir To The Empire now (hey, he's almost eight!  And he insisted!).

						-Jay