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From: pab@robots.ox.ac.uk (Paul Beardsley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:14:21 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK.
Originator: pab@pericles.robots

In article <9484@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley) writes:
>I long ago learnt to steer clear of books that were described on
>their covers as "wickedly funny" or any variation of "rollicking"
>or "romp", David Lodge being to one to bring the lesson home
>most painfully.
>
>[rest deleted]
>

I most dislike not phrases like the above (although I 
know what you mean) but small cliques
of writers who give each other back-slapping comments 
to be printed on covers.  I recently saw a comment
along the lines of "There are only a few authors
who produce works of fantasy which can also claim to be
great literature - amongst them are Peter Straub, Dean
Koontz, (forgotten the rest)".  Strange thing for anyone
to believe, I thought.  Then I noticed the comment was 
by Stephen King.  Not very obvious that he and P.Straub 
and D.Koontz get together for a beer every few 
months (cynicism, cynicism),

Paul Beardsley.
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From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Re: Walpole's _The Castle of Otranto_
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:57:11 GMT

Ken Something writes:

	I just read Walpole's _The Castle of Otranto_ because I wanted 
	to see what a man so fed up with his age would come up with.  
	I am amazed at his conception of realism!

	In his introduction he says:

		Allow the possibility of the facts, and all the actors 
		comport themselves as persons would do in their situation.

	In other words, he believed his characters acted realistically.  
	But who reading this story can fail to be struck [there follows
	descriptions of unusual horror]...

	What accounts for such an odd notion of realism?  Something in 
	the Gothic mystique?

Simple, really. Walpole's Introduction is part of the text. A meta
introduction, not a real one. He wants to help you create a climate
wherein you can suspend your disbelief. Its a trick.

						Semper Fido
From: lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: How I boggle myself
Keywords: Scott and Bulter
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:06:55 GMT
Reply-To: lnh@physics.arizona.edu
Organization: Society for the Appreciation of Janni Lee Simner


Having just breezed through "The Lay of the Last Minstrel," "Marmion,"
and "The Lady of the Lake," I've started reading Walt Scott's Waverley
novels.  Specifically, WAVERLY.  In my usual tag-team reading fashion,
this is concurent with EREWHON.  Scott plus Sam Bulter is an ...
interesting ... mix.

Scott, incidentally, cannot write anywhere near as well as Jane Austen,
but he can write novels as well as she.

	Larry "If you see the difference" Hammer
--

LNH@physics.arizona.edu          \  "What can be seen, heard, and learned, 
The insane don't need disclaimers \  this I prize." -- Heraclitus, #13
From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:23:28 GMT


A week ago, Mike Godwin reminded me that
 
> I'd be cautious about assuming that the Palo Alto Francis Muir is
> identical to "Fido," "Philomath," "Francis Muir," and other personae
> who visit rec.arts.books.
 
I'll give Mike his own advice about assuming that Ms. Officious Courtesy,
Fiona Webster or Fiona Oceanstar are identical to the psychiatrist/writer
who posts under those personae (whatever his/her real name is).  
 
For the record, I didn't think Mike's comments to SubGenius were rude.
(I state this for Ron Nadel, who, I hope, is still keeping score :-)
 
In fact, I've always assumed that SubGenius was just a persona that Mike
posts under.  There is the Texas connection, after all.  Come to think of
it, Isn't Fiona also a Texan?
 
Mark
 
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From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:43:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.172314.1317@morrow.stanford.edu> francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:

>Jeremy, the Law is a Ass. Leave legal matters to the assinine.

Quite right. Similarly, one should leave geological matters to the oily.


--Mike



-- 
Mike Godwin,    |"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact 
mnemonic@eff.org| of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, 
(617) 864-0665  | both are transformed."
EFF, Cambridge  |                           --Carl Jung
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Look for friends interested in Chinese rumors.
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:35:28 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

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From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:49:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.011523.18620@morrow.stanford.edu> francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:
>
>Precisely why I started the androgenous thread which Baba, bless her
>cotton socks, ascribed to Fiona "I'm no Doctor" Oceanstar
>

Oh, oh, oh!  Bless my paws and whiskers, of course it was you who 
broached the subject, Fido.  Please forgive. 

Now.  How's your Anima, please? 


--Baba, checking her socks 

 
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:01:04 -0400 
From: Lori Cole <lc1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [UPI] Report: Book censorship, challenges in schools at 10-year high

For an excellent discussion of how publishers and special interest
groups affect the teaching of history in American public schools see
Francis Fitzgerald's (who won the Pulitzer for _Fire in the Lake_)
_America Revised_, originally published as a series of articles in _The
New Yorker_.

Lori Cole
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From: davidf@golem.uucp (David J. Fiander)
Subject: Splitting Horror (was Re: Marriage as Hell: Charlotte Perkins Gilman on TV)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:16:58 GMT

According to fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster):
>It's always been a puzzler to me that a supernatural vs. non-super-
>natural distinction is often made for horror literature in used
>bookstores.  And now--have you noticed this?--that bastion of splitter mania,
>Blockbuster Videos, has undertaken to divide their horror movie section
>into "horror" vs. "supernatural."  And with very little logic, too:
>recently I found Vincent Price's priceless (sorry) "Theatre of Blood,"
>a story of serial murders enacted according to Shakespearean texts,
>categorized as a "supernatural" film.

An interesting problem is generated by attempting to split a
loosely defined group.  For proof, see the rec.arts.sf-lovers
reorganisation vote of last year.

More to the point though, would be Shirley Jackson.  If we
attempted to split her writings as Blockbuster has, We'd end up
with three groups: one firmly in each camp, and one sitting on
the (very broad, low) fence in between.  What's worse is that
the book _The Haunting of Hill House_, and the movie _The
Haunting_ could end up on different sides.

- David
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Wonderful Life
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:42:29 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <88645@netnews.upenn.edu>, weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.221308.6621@iscsvax.uni.edu>, klier@iscsvax writes:
>>> I am NOT an evolutionary biologist, and have extracted all this from semi-pop
>>> literature.  I have no idea what the professionals think of it.  Is there 
>>> a paleontologist in the house?        

Please watch the attributions.  I most certainly AM an evolutionary
biologist: I'm a plant systematist currently working with the effects
of hybridization on speciation in certain groups, and with population
genetics of rare and endangered species.  I don't do paleobotany, though
I have an interest in it.

The following is the only portion of my writing you quoted:
>>As far as I know, the paleozoologists think that Gould is pretty much on
>>the money (barring later corrections).

This is based on conversations with several paleozoologists at AIBS a
few years ago.  

> That's simply false.  Gould's philosophical views in WL are a minority
> among Cambrian specialists.  Briggs and colleagues, for example, recently
> published a rather detailed (ie, quantitative) dissent regarding Gould's
> claims of higher diversity then versus now.
 
Um hm.  This is the way science progresses.  Someone puts out a hypothesis,
tested to a certain extent, and others try to see how it works in 
slightly different circumstances and slightly different interpretations.
Reconstruction of populations from fossils is a fairly speculative
pursuit, and changing underlying assumptions slightly may change the
interpretation of the data.   That is a valid way of examining data.

> Moreover, it is simply unknown when certain modern phyla arose.  Gould
> just assumes that they all arose during the Cambrian explosion.
                         ^^^
Not by my reading...

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Subject: Re: Donna Tartt
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:44:55 GMT

In article <BuDoM8.4vD.2@cs.cmu.edu> dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel) writes:

>_The Secret History_.  There was an article on her and the Wonderbook
>in a recent "Vanity Fair."  She was shown posing with her bulldog
>or pug, to which she bore an amazing resemblance!

I've now seen several pictures of Donna Tartt. In every one she was
far more attractive than any bulldog, and good-looking by almost
any standard.


--Mike



-- 
Mike Godwin,    |"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact 
mnemonic@eff.org| of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, 
(617) 864-0665  | both are transformed."
EFF, Cambridge  |                           --Carl Jung 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Subject: Re: Book Search Request
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 23:57:17 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep8.193938.7788@linus.mitre.org> jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum) writes:
>In article <8SEP199210362467@portal.lasc.lockheed.com>, le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025)) writes:
>> I read a book more than 25 years ago that I would like to read again,
>> but I can't remember the title.  The plot concerns a gentle humble
>> priest who has ongoing comments and conversations with Christ who 
>> has come off the cross to speak with him.  There are some very funny
>> moments in the book, and we learn ultimately that everything is 
>> really taking place within the thoughts of the little priest.
>> 
>Just a stab in the dark, but you might have been reading Chapter 5, 
>Book 5 of _The Brothers Karamozov_ by Fyoder Dostoyefsky (sp?).

	Chuckle, chuckle :)  The Grand Inquisitor is neither gentle nor
	humble, and there is no humor in Ivan's talk with Alyosha.
	Besides, in the story, Christ actually has reappeared.
	I'm just as clueless as to which book Mr. Nadel wants, though.

><jon@mitre.org>|--------------------------------------------------------------

Roger Squires
rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: espen.aarseth@hf.uib.no (Espen Aarseth)
Subject: Re: Debil Postmoderns Cyberpunk
Followup-To: rec.arts.books,rec.arts.sf.written,alt.postmodern,alt.cyberpunk
Organization: University of Bergen
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 10:09:05 GMT

In article <Btwuvz.MGs@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pwebb@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Peter
Webb) wrote:
> 
> : 
> :     My question, then, is whether there are any science fictional
> : works that may be reasonably termed postmodern.  In particular, I 
> : would like to know if there is any connection between Cyberpunk 
> : or _The Movement_ and postmodernism.  
> :
> 
> I'd suggest you read "Storming the Reality Studio," edited by Larry McCaffery.
> It begins with an essay on PostModernism in SF and Serious Literature and
> continues with many excerpts from PostModern works.  I don't have the book
> at work, so I can't post the ISBN or publisher.

Check out Brian McHale's _Postmodern Fiction_ (Methuen 1987) where he
devotes a subchapter to science fiction. 

I think one of the points is that science fiction is postmodernism's
"popular" sister genre, just as the detective novel is modernism's.

espen
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:45:34 GMT

Joann Zimmerman writes:

	But don't we all use exactly these phrases?

Somwewhat reminiscent of Rodney King's:

	But can't we all get along?

The answer to both is no. When Joann Zimmerman catches me gushing
she may turn off the tap.

							Fido
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone)
Subject: Re: utopias and distopias
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:25:09 GMT

In article <14914@mindlink.bc.ca> Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian) writes:
>Wolfe, in the 1930s, had for a time been personal secretary to Trotsky in
>Mexico. (This is why I am a deadly dangerous player of Trivial Pursuit.)

Harlan Ellison mentioned this in his introduction to Wolfe's _Monitored
Dreams and Strategic Cremations_ short story in _Again, Dangerous Visions_.
From: burgin@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Robert Burgin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Title of poem from scanty fragment?
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:59:59 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <13662.2aa75e63@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> wagner@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>I'd like to find the poem which contains (I'm sure I've mangled the lines,
>so I know this is a tall order)
>        Things fall apart, the center doesn't hold
>                    ...
>	The best are gnawed by withering doubts
>        The worst are full of headstrong certainty... 
>							-Luke	

	The poem is "The Second Coming," and the poet is
	William Butler Yeats.
 
	And once again, it's in Bartlett's Familiar
	Quotations.  Doesn't anyone else own a copy
	or know how to use it?  (This is the second
	time this week.)

	--rb
From: danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Books on Disc
Date: 9 Sep 1992 22:17:01 GMT
Organization: Subvert the Dominant Paradigm, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: earlybird

 >In article <qwmnr3#.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
 >>Can you imagine having to read these books from a computer monitor?
 >>
 >Aside from the size and resolution constraints of a CRT, what is it that  
 >people dislike about reading books on a computer?  What would be the  
 >features in a book-reading program?  Bookmarks, tabs, dog-eared pages?
 
 Someone wrote:
 Well, the smell of a freshly opened new book would be one thing I
 would miss.

Plus:

  computers generally require two hands
  computers require power
  video display terminals may cause eye strain, etc.

These are the two main problems, from wich flow countless
subtle, others:

  They're difficult to use at the beach (sand,glare)
  you can't curl up with them
  you can't use them to balance your dining room table
  they are more delicate than books
  you can't get all bundeled up in front of the fireplace
     with a good "computer-book" 

  There is no satisfying "thunk" when you drop it onto a
  table

Dano
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Wonderful Life 
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:13:08 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep9.205453.19467@ncar.ucar.edu>, chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe) writes:
> I am NOT an evolutionary biologist, and have extracted all this from semi-pop
> literature.  I have no idea what the professionals think of it.  Is there 
> a paleontologist in the house?        

As far as I know, the paleozoologists think that Gould is pretty much on
the money (barring later corrections).  Gould is, of course, a professional
paleontologist at Harvard, as well as being an historian of science and
pretty good writer. ;-)

We see similar sorts of things going on with plant lineages, especially
the Gondwana lines, in later periods.  (Disclaimer: I work only with
modern lineages, though the old ones fascinate me.)

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:40:49 GMT
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway



Fido writes:
 
        . . . the only Penguin that I have ever worn out.
 
Reading this, I got a picture of Francis dressed as a Penguin, hiding in
his house, primping in front of the mirror, saving that one special Penguin
outfit to be woen out.
 
I'd pay good money to see that.
 
Mark, who has been waiting months to get Francis back for the
"Italian First Communicants outfit -- you know, those sexy short
shorts, clutching a white vellum-covered micro-missal with a gilt
clasp" crack he made about me.
From: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk (Stewart T Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Booker Prize shortlist
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:18:42 GMT
Reply-To: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. Of Computing and Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh


Here is the shortlist for the 20,000 pound Booker Prize :

_The English Parent_ by Michael Ondaatje (Bloomsbury)
_Daughters of the House_ by Michele Roberts (Virago)
_Black Dogs_ by Ian McEwan (Cape)
_Sacred Hunger_ by Barry Unsworth (Hamish Hamilton)
_Serenity House_ by Christopher Hope (Macmillan)
_The Butcher Boy_ by Patrick McCabe (Picador)

Odds decalred by William Hill yesterday :

5-2 Ondaatje
3-1 McEwan
7-2 Hope
4-1 McCabe
6-1 Roberts, Unsworth.

[This takes me back...my very first posting to rec.arts.books was the 1990
Booker Prize shortlist...<sigh>]

As the leader of the panel said, "Hostilities will resume on October 13."
STF
--
sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk                        ...uknet!cs.hw.ac.uk!sfleming
"Eat what you catch or put it back.  And don't go wasting
   a lot of words when a simple 'yup' will do"  -mid-west fishing ethic
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: jost@walt.coyote.trw.com (Patrick Jost)
Subject: Wanted: "The Secret Money Market" by I. Walter
Reply-To: Patrick Jost <jost@wilbur.coyote.trw.com>
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:51:55 GMT


I need this book. If you have one in good condition, let me know. After
September 25th, reply to jost@itd.nrl.navy.mil!


Thanks,


PJ



-- 
..suenos perdidos, dolor infinito, ya sin sentido, en el triste fluir, de los
llantos sumergidos, al silencio de un grito en el vacio... (J. L. Velasquez)

              Patrick Jost/jost@coyote.trw.com/(310) 812-2759
From: jane@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Jane Lean)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:14:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Power Software

In article <1992Sep8.214126.20232@nas.nasa.gov> wismith@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (William R. Smith) writes:
> Meg Worley writes:
>
> 	I long ago learnt to steer clear of books that were described on
> 	their covers as "wickedly funny" or any variation of "rollicking"
> 	or "romp", David Lodge being to one to bring the lesson home
> 	most painfully.

On the other hand, how can you resist a book which says on the cover
"A writing style somewhere between Jane Austen and a hand grenade."?
This is on the cover of "The Crocodile Club" by Kaz Cooke, a Melbourne
(Australia)  based cartoonist/novelist/whatever.  A really madcap (anyone
hate that?) read.

Jane
-- 
Jane Lean                                                 jane@bohra.cpg.oz.au
CP Software Export Pty Ltd                               Phone:  +61-3-8230213
ACN 006 640 133  (A Division         "They're gonna hang some new stars in the 
of the Computer Power Group)          heavens tonight."     -- Laurie Anderson
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: lynnette@Ingres.COM (Lynnette Viste)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Reply-To: lynnette@Ingres.COM (Lynnette Viste)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:42:30 GMT

It occurs to me that if we avoided all books that use any of the words 
or blurbs mentioned in this thread, there would be nothing left to
read.

Probably there are even editions of Shakespeare's plays that say 
"must read" or worse.

I think it's silly to avoid a book based on a cover blurb, or even
a cover picture. I've found many good books that have silly pictures 
which don't even match the "facts" of the story - the female 
character being portrayed as a blonde, when the character is clearly
described as a redhead, or something.

Lynnette
lynnette@ingres.com


Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: jwest@ramona.com (Jim Western)
Subject: Re: books to avoid
Organization: Ramona Engineering
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:16:23 GMT

mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:

>Where on earth do you get that idea? I've never owned a copy of the book,
>nor have I ever even held one in my hand. I simply recalled news stories
>about the book at the time of its publication (around 20 years ago, I
>think).

My God! What a specimen you are, sir!


                                    - Jim Western
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Re: Encyclopedia Brit.
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:44:42 GMT

Joann Zimmerman quotes Bernard Berenson:

	"But there is a limit to human patience; 
	and of research, as of other carnal pleasures, 
	there cometh satiety at the last." 

Ms Zimmerman might help us explore this most expert of all art experts.
In a sense he created the world of Italian art as we know it today. His
personal collection was the most exquisite ever put together, not excepting
that of the Romanovs.

						Fido
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: RABfest '92: the fourth day.
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:32:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep15.144723.6604@morrow.stanford.edu> francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:
>My own favorite was a reading of an unfinished letter from Dorothy L.
>Sayers to Charles Williams.

How can those of us not fortunate enough to attend get a copy of this?
I'd love to read it.

 


-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

I believe we are on the irreversible trend toward more freedom and
democracy -- but that could change.   -- J. Danforth Quayle
From: ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Ray Bradbury and American Airlines
Date: 11 Sep 1992 14:48:43 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: ncramer@labs-n.bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan) writes:
> ... I'm not suggesting that Ray is a hypocrite for working
>for American but what will the three articles be about? "Flying: it's
>good for you but not for me." Other suggestions for Ray?

How's about "Just why do you think they call it 'Terminal Velocity'?"?

NICHAEL  
nichael@bbn.com  --                Bush/Gorbachev: One Down, One to Go