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From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Delicate Balance in Uruguay
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:59:00 GMT
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Subject: Delicate Balance in Uruguay
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


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From el diario/La Prensa 12/15/92

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el Diario/La Prensa" is a
Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.


Delicate Balance in Uruguay

The government of Uruguayan President Luis Lacalle is facing a
delicate juncture, having to decide whether to keep or modify its
economic and social policies in the face of a sweeping defeat
suffered in a referendum which annulled part of the reform
program. Lacalle had said his policies would not change no matter
the outcome of the referendum. However, the magnitude of the
defeat appears to be making him reconsider. The opposition
considered the result to be a judgment against Lacalle's entire
program. (edlp 12/15/92 from AP) 


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From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Amnesty for All Peruvian Coups?
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:59:00 GMT
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Subject: Amnesty for All Peruvian Coups?
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)



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From el diario/La Prensa 12/15/92

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el Diario/La Prensa" is 
a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.


Peruvians Asking for Amnesty for Alleged Coup Participants

Various Constituent Assembly deputies and political leaders in
Peru are asking that those implicated in an alleged coup attempt
against President Alberto Fujimori be given amnesty. The 15 people
who were arrested, led by General Jaime Salinas, were taken to a
maximum security prison, without regard to the legal system or
what charges were being brought against them. This move has been
protested, along with the supposed discontent among the military
divulged by a Peruvian television station.

The leader of the "Renovation" movement, Rafael Rey, said that an
amnesty would contribute to "establish a climate of understanding,
peace and agreement," and added that if Fujimori doesn't grant
amnesty he himself will present the proposal to the Consitituent
Assembly.

Lourdes Flores, head of the Popular Christian Party (PPC), and a
deputy to the Assembly, gave her "total support" for the amnesty,
"for those who tried to reinstate democratic institutionality
through the mistaken path." The amnesty is also backed by Julio
Castro, a deputy and head of the Left Democratic Movement (MDI),
as well as three independent lawyers, Enrique Chirinos, Javier
Valle-Riestra and Raul Ferrero.

Chirinos suggested that the amnesty be extended to the April 5
coup authors [Fujimori's self-coup] to avoid a trial of Fujimori
at the end of his term. Valle-Riestra suggested a broad amnesty
excluding only those involved in terrorism. Ferrero called the
amnesty an intelligent and practical way out, and considered the
ideal to be the approval of the amnesty by the Congress, in order
to prove its independence. (edlp 12/15/92 from EFE)
 

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From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Cuban Rights Advocate Beaten and Detained
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:26:32 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Now here's some news that does fit and we expect our friend of the "peace and 
freedom caravan" to speak out on what their friends in Havanna are doing with 
their comunications equipment they have donated to Castro.

(Edelmiro)

CUBAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE BEATEN AND DETAINED

by Tim Golden
The New York Times 12-3-92

HAVANA, Cuba, Dec. 12 - One of Cuba's most prominent human rights advocates 
was being held by the authorities today after being beaten by a mob of 
Government supporters, his friends and relatives said.

The human rights advocate, Elizardo Sanches, who is the leader of one of 
Cuba's tine dissident humand rights groups, was said to be recovering in a 
military hospital after having been dragged from a friends apartment on 
Thursday afternoon and beaten nearly unconscious.

Several other critics of the Government said they were harassed on Thursday, 
Friday and Saturday by Government supporters who surrounded their homes, 
shouted insults, pounded on doors and in some instances threw stones.

Cuban officials could not immediately be reached for comment on the incident.  
But in at least two cases, the action appeared to have been corrdingated by 
state secutiry officials.


In and extrememly brief telephone interview today, Gerardo Sanches, the 
brother of Elizardo Sanchez, said the authorities were holding his borother for 
investigation.  The telephone call was then cut off, and many other efforts to 
call again were unsuccessful.  For the third day in a row, groups of Government 
supporters blocked reporters from approaching the home in which Mr. Sanchez 
lives with his brother mother and sister.
[...]

The government supporters broke open the apartment door, sought out Mr. 
Sanchez and punched him about the head and face, the friends said.  The 
apartment was ransacked, they said, but the womand was not harmed.

Friends of Mr. Sanchez said his mother and sister had been allowed to visit 
him on Friday at a Havanna military hospital and found him suffering from chest 
pains and facial bruises. 

According to neighbors, scores of men in civilian clothes gathered Thruday 
morining at a small, unmarked building belonging to the Cuban Interior Ministry 
and from there set our for Mr. Sanchez's home. 

[...]

Men with walkie-talkies who appeared to be security officials seemed to be 
coordinating the actions, and both police and military officers passed by them 
at various times.

[...] 

Among those harassed was Alvaro Prendes, a former Air Force commander and 
one-time hero of the Cuban revoultion who earlier this month expressed his 
sympathy with a relatively new and moderate dissident group, the Cuban 
Democratic Socialst Current.  Mr. Prendes had not directly criticized the Cuban 
leader, but had made public a letter asking him to open a national discussion 
on how the country might move peacefully towards political change.
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Diferencias en Ron/Rum
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:21:16 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Ray,

Los puertorriquen~os tenemos una bebida naviden~a llamada "coquito" que se
parece al ponche crema pero tiene leche de coco y es muy popular en
navidad.  Tienen algo parecido los Cubanos?

Tema aparte, puede que el Bacardi mexicano sea el mejor Bacardi (que de
hecho se vende mucho en Puerto Rico, pero no tanto como el Don Q y el Llave) y
es innegable que es el ron de mayor venta en el mundo a pesar del holocausto
de Castro, pero por casualidad podrias explicar por que ponen en sus botellas
"Puerto Rican Rum"?  Corrigeme si no estoy en lo correcto, pero a pesar que
gran parte el Bacardi se destila en Mexico y en otros lugares, y que se exporta
a granel a Jacksonville, han mantenido su operacion en San Juan para poder
continuar on este impreso en la botella, lo que no le quita que sea buen
ron.  En Puerto Rico continuamente se puede ir a diario a la planta en
Catan~o y no solo te dan un "tour" de la planta, donde puedes ver fuentes
de ron, sin que te regalan tragos desde y puedes contemplar la bahia desde
un lugar privilegiado.  Si en algo nos beneficiamos los Puertorriquen~os de
Fidel Castro fue el contar con personas como los Bacardi, los cuales estimularon
la industria del ron en la isla y le dieron fama mundial a nuestros rones. 
Es por eso que en cada botela de Bacardi encuentras "Puerto Rican Rum", aunque
lo destilen en Mexico.

Por ultimo, se que el daiquiri y el cubalibre son inventos cubanos, pero
sabes de otros tragos que se pueden hacer con ron que son propios de Cuba.
En Puerto Rico se inventaron eso de la pin~a colada, pero eso es para el
verano (que en Puerto Rico dura todo el an~o), ahora bien, que yo sepa, salvo
el Ponche Crema y el "coquito" no conozco de otro trago puertorriquen~o. 
Pasa lo mismo con el daiquiri o tienen otros que no conocemos? 

Saludos,

Edelmiro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: gdg@athena.mit.edu (Gerardo D Garbulsky)
Subject: diccionario electronico ingles-espanol?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:41:33 GMT

Hola!

Queria saber si alguien sabe de algun diccionario electronico
ingles-espanol que corra en PC, Mac o accesible a traves de internet.

Gracias.

Jerry
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: emr002@acad.drake.edu
Subject: 4:40 song...
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:59:38 GMT


sorry...I just invoked the wrong file....be right back!


Vivire en tu recuerdo
  como un simple aguacero
    de estrellitas y duendes
				Vagare por tu cuerpo 
				  mordiendo cada ilusion....

Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: psilva@dcc.uchile.cl (SILVA OSORIO PABLO WASHINGTON)
Subject: Le gustaria hacer intercambio...???
Originator: psilva@dcc.uchile.cl
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:45:11 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion

Hola a todos!!!!!!

 Mi nombre (para los que no me ubican) es Pablo Silva Osorio
 soy estudiante de ingenieria en Ciencias de la Computacion
 en la Universidad de Chile, me gustaria contactarme con
 estudiantes de Computer Science (Ciencias de la Computacion)
 para hacer intercambio de conocimientos, algoritmos, experiencias
 con software y etc... las personas interesadas en mantener 
 correspondencia con el que escribe estas lineas por favor
 envien e-mail a psilva@dcc.uchile.cl

 Como estudiante me interesa hacer intercambio (sobretodo)
 en conocimientos de Unix, Assembler, Lenguajes como C
 Lisp, CAML, Turbo Pascal.. (entre otros)

 En materia de Ciencia Computacional tengo una variedad de
 controles (pruebas resueltas) de Teoria de Automatas y Lenguajes
 Finitos, Problemas de Estructura de Datos...(entre otros).

 Si tienen interes de hacer intercambio mandenme un e-mail
 a la direccion sen~alada anteriormente.. Ok? :-)

  
-- 
atte psilva

psilva@dcc.uchile.cl Estudiante de Ingenieria en Ciencias de la Computacion
                     de la Universidad de Chile.
From: hs1c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hector Salgado-Galicia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Latin Baby Names - Okay, Okay, LATINO NAMES
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:59:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kf_GhC_00iV405aZs6
	<1992Dec10.141838.18921@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>Okay guys, since I got so many flames for leaving out a simple "o" from
Latino,
>let me repost my request. :)
> 
>Could someone please send me a list of Latino baby names??  
> 
> 
>Thanks,
>-Mojgan  a.k.a. Dan Quail of soc.culture.latin-america ;)   


Ooops!! I'm not quite sure a simple "o" is not quite fixing it:

 Do you mean names in Latin derived romance languages such as Spanish,
Portuguese, Italian, French or Romanian? 

Or maybe you meant just those names used in Latin America. 
In that case:

Francois TOUSSAINT L'OUVERTURE
Henry CHRISTOPHE
Ertha Pascal-Trouillot
Jean Jacques DESSALINES
Jean Pierre BOYER

Would fit the description, n'est pas?


Or alternatively:

Getulio VARGAS
Joao Baptista de Oliveira FIGUEIREDO
Fernando COLLOR DE MELLO


Or even:

Jacques CARTIER
Samuel de CHAMPLAIN
Ange Duquesne, Marquis de Menneville
Pierre Elliott TRUDEAU

etc? 

Hey, I'm runnig out of time, could anyone else include some Spanish names?

All of these and much more in History books at your favorite Public Library.



Regards
H. Salgado
From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Bolivia mudslide toll up to 90/ed-l
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:34:00 GMT
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Subject: Bolivia mudslide toll up to 90/ed-lp
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


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edlp 12/10 

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman.  "el Diario/La Prensa" is a
Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.


MUDSLIDE DEAD INCREASE TO 90

At least 90 people have been confirmed dead by the Red Cross as a
result of a mudslide in a mining camp in Llipi, Colombia. Some 200
are still missing. A vehicle carrying rescue workers to the scene
on Dec. 9 was involved in an accident which resulted in an
additional 10 deaths. However, the heavy rains hitting the area
have stopped, which will make the rescue operation easier.
Helicopters are bringing food and medicines to the surviviors.
President Paz Zamora has ordered the mobilization of all
government recources necessary to help the rescue effort.
Thirty-one hours after the mud slide occurred, only three doctors,
two ambulances and some 200 people were able to arrive at the site
to help the victims. (edlp 12/10 from AP)


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Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 00:49:56 EST
From: <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Para mi curiosidad....

Hay alguien que es de Paraguay en este newsgroup?, si es que sos de Paraguay,
que es lo que haces alli escondido sin decirme que sos de Paraguay!!!!:)
me podrian decir como se dice Feliz Navidad en guarani? es por curiosidad mia.

Feliz Navidad

Antonio
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: mossiar@acpub.duke.edu (Dante Mossi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: feliz navidad, pronosticos del tiempo, uniformes y Mafalda!
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:43:33 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


 Esta es una peque~o comentario de las fiestas navidade~as en Honduras,
la tradicion es que las familias se reunen y comparten la cena a
medianoche. En el a~o nuevo es igual, solo que uno tiende a unirse con
tios y tias! En todo caso, yo estoy iendo a pasar mis vacaciones a
Tegucigalpa, y no hay nada que me detenga! Para los que se quedan aqui,
(los EU) o en otros lados, aqui va un comando que encontre en otra red,
es un programa que da reportes del tiempo en los EU y en todo el mundo.
Solo escriban el siguiente comando y escriban M para ir al menu
completo. Feliz Navidad!


telnet downwind.sprl.umich.edu 3000



PS En cuanto a lo de Mafalda, me recorde que una prima en Nicaragua me
comento lo de la "muerte" de mafalda en el libro #13 (=numero de la 
mala suerte). Talvez averiguo que fue lo que paso exactamente! Y en
cuanto a lo de los uniformes, yo use uniforme durante 11 a~os de
educacion y nunca me senti como robot o algo parecido, simplemente, fue
algo muy comodo, en cuanto entre a la universidad, y deje de usar
uniformes, me di cuenta de la "libertad" que se siente, pero tambien me
di cuenta que el vestir se convirtio en algo mas en que preocuparse.
Creo que cuando uno esta en los primeros a~os de escuela, el uniforme es
simplemente algo practico. Nos vemos.
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From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: International Software Assignments
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:07:29 GMT

Tony Rodriguez (icpa@iat.holonet.net) wrote:
: 
: 	The International Computer Professional Association is a member 
: supported organization for experienced software professionals who want to
: work overseas. By using our network of over 750 technical recruitment firms 
: in the US and abroad, members can find contract and permanent software jobs
: throughout the world. If you are interested in working overseas, contact us
: including your name, address, and evening phone number and we will send you
: information on membership with the ICPA.

I've done it lots of times without getting any information at all.

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: MILLERM@SUVM.SYR.EDU
Subject: Searching for relatives in Argentina
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 20:34:25 EST

In soc.roots I wrote:
 
>I  also  am looking for relatives in Argentina, last known to be in
>Buenos Aires.  The family name was Wiszniewski, could be spelled
>Vishnevsky or many other ways.  The name was originally Besdin, and
>the family came from Kossovo, Belarus, formerly in the USSR.
>
>Thanks for any ideas!
 
I received the following answer:
 
>Recuerdo un profesor de psicologia que tuviera mi esposa en los 70 en
>La Plata con un apellido similar, de origen judio, y creo que de
>Belarus, una persona muy inteligente y preparada, pero eso es todo lo
>que puedo aportar.  Buena suerte !
 
Apparently there was a psychology professor by this name in La Plata in
1970.  Can anyone give me any more information.  The head of this family,
which I believe was a large one, was my grandmother's brother.
 
Please email me at:
 
millerm@suvm.BITNET
millerm@suvm.cat.syr.edu
 
Happy holidays,
 
Martin Miller
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: jet5r@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (J. E. TABORA)
Subject: Re: La muerte de Mafalda
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:28:10 GMT

puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu  writes:
> In article <002564r.28.724100697@ace.acadiau.ca> 002564r@ace.acadiau.ca  
> (RICARDO FLAVIO ROMAN-CARBAJAL) writes:
> > 
> > 
> > ah por cierto, para leer mafalda hay que entender lo que es ser y sentir 
> > como LATINOAMERICANO! (Quino es increible en esto si pueden consigan sus 
> > obras recientes, el no ha perdido esa chispa)los que no entienden mafalda 
> > o la critican, es porque su corazon y sus ojos estan muy lejos del 
> > sentimiento y la identidad latinoamericana!
> 
> Esto quizas quiera ser un elogio a Quino, pero es casi un insulto. Si se  
> propusiera que para leer Macbeth hay que ser/sentir como  Britanico o para leer  
> Don Quijote hay que ser/sentir como Espa#ol, se menospreciaria la  
> transcendencia universal de las obras de estos escritores.
> 
> Si fuera verdad que Quino solo lo entienden los que son y se sienten como  
> latinoamericanos, entonces la calidad de su obra seri'a muy limitada y reducida  
> y sin ninguna transcendencia universal.
>
>	......stuff deleted

Yo creo que la verdad esta entre estas dos opiniones.  Por un lado, no 
todos de los chistes de Mafalda contenian referencia a la "realidad 
latinoamericana"  y eran (como argumenta Puerta) universales.  Sin embargo
comparar la "Universalidad" de Quino con obras clasicas (que despues
de todo por algo son clasicas) es exagerar un poco.  Muchos de los chistes
son particulares a latinoamerica y mas especificamente a Argentina, estos
ultimos son a mi parecer unos pocos.

Eduardo

> 
> --
> Angel Puerta
> puerta@camis.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: lazaro@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Lazaro Nunez)
Subject: Re: Cuban Rights Advocate Beaten and Detained
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:24:13 GMT

In article <GILBERTO.92Dec14130442@united.zzz.pe.u-tokyo.ac.jp> gilberto@zzz.pe.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Herrera Ruiz GILBERTO) writes:
>
>In article <20081@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>
>
>   CUBAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE BEATEN AND DETAINED
>
>   by Tim Golden
>   The New York Times 12-3-92
>
    [...]
>
>
>
>Creo que si el Sr. Sanches hubiera nacido en El Salvador en estos
>tiempos o en Guatemala o en cualquiera de la dictaduras
>diplomaticamente reconocidas por EU de ahora o antes (Chile, Argentina
>Tailandia etc.), El no estaria en un hospital Militar sino estaria
>desaparecido y muerto, sus familiares igual por eso de que no canten de mas,
>sus hijos raptados para empezar una nueva vida en otra familia mas
>honorable, el New York Times no escribiria de El y nuestro amigo seria
>un desconocido mas muerto en el mundo y sin remordimientos por que parar
>el comunismo es una noble cruzada segun el "fosforecente" y con ese
>pretexto se puede hacer de lo que sea hasta matar ninyos y mujeres
>embarazadas como en el mozote y en donde hasta la embajada USA siempre
>nego que se hubiera hecho tal cosa (Complicidad???)....
>
>Mi pregunta es los ninyos del mozote pudieron ser tan precozes como para
>ser comunistas desde los 5 anyos????
>
>Just Think About it "Fosforecente"!!!!!
>

!Que miedo me da cuando se siente indiferencia por lo inhumano con la excusa
de que en otros paises sucede igual o peor!

>Gilberto

-- 
| Lazaro Nun~ez Figueiral         ||  !Lloran sobre el Mar de Cuba	     |
| Memorial University of Nfld.    ||  enormes flores bermejas;	             |
| St. John's, Terranova, Canada.  ||  sobre la isla perdida	   	     |
| lazaro@garfield.cs.mun.ca       ||  el aire amarillo tiembla! - F.G. Lorca |
From: chamberk@ucs.orst.edu (Kevin Chambers)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: NEWS from Colombia 12/11 ed-lp
Summary: name-calling, nonsense, non-violence
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:04:41 GMT
Organization: OSU Dept. of Foreign Languages
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

In article <20490@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu 
(Edelmiro) writes:
>The New York Trasfer Service writes:
>
>********
>COLOMBIAN GUERRILLAS BLOW UP LUXURY HOTELS
>********    
>
>Well this should be no problem, since now that they are actively involved
>in the drug trade, their friends in the cartel can give them plenty
>of help to sabotage the resurrecting tourist industry, creat oil spills in
>Colombias rivers generating ecological disasters, kidnap people for ransom,
>and simply continues with their scorched earth campaign against the cities.
>The day will soon come when the  country reaches the level of violence
>of Peru and the "new" left will feel very happy that Colombia has been
>burned to the ground for no ideological resons whatsoever other than
>a a cold  blooded quest for power and money.  Something very simmilar happened
>in El Salvador, where marxist guerrillas manipulated peaseants in experiments
>of class warfare that left the country in shambles.  There is not a single
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>country in this hemisphere where organized violence has achieved anything,
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>including Cuba, and  in this day and age we have people cheering on the
>sideline and clapping when some military buffoons attempt to topple the
>government elected by the people.  Very few countries have been able to
>resolve their conflicts peacefully and have avoided these "civil" wars 
>inspired by opportunists in search of individual power.  Let us all learn from
>experiences like Costa Rica and Chile (during the 80's) to see how
>consensus building is more productive than consensus destroying.
>
>Edelmiro

Mr. Edelmiro:

These are very promising words you say.  I assume you include the United
States invasions of the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada,
and Cuba, along with the CIA's "organized violence" in Guatemala, Chile, and
Nicaragua.  I can't tell you how happy I am to see you clarifying your ideas;
I was beginning to get discouraged by all that name-calling nonsense ;-)


Kevin Chambers           __
chamberk@ucs.orst.edu    \/   "Pinko"