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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Sunday, 22 Nov 1992 17:14:07 EST
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top all-dead band

In article <00963DEA.CE09F8C0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu says:
>
>
>If anyone can find us a good blues drummer...I cant think of one right now
>please feel free to add that name to the list.
>

I wish I were at home to check names, but Floyd Jones and Odie Payne
are considered to be one of the best blues rhythm sections of all-time.
Payne is the drummer.  I'm not completely positive on Floyd's name.
There's also Calvin Jones (bass) and Willie Smith (drums).
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                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: geigel@seas.gwu.edu (Joseph Geigel)
Subject: Movie stars in rock videos
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:05:59 GMT


   I was watching the video for Annie Lenox's "Walking on Broken 
   Glass" the other day, and was surprised to see John Malkovich
   in the video.

   After thinking about it for a while, I realized that Malkovick 
   isn't the only movie star that I've seen in a rock video.  Stars
   that come to mind are Keanu Reeves in Paula Abdul's "Hush Hush",
   Norm and that Home Alone kid in "Black and White", Melainie Griffith
   in Sting's "All This Time" and Lesley Ann Warren in Aerosmith's
   "Janie Got a Gun"

   I guess appearing in rock video is the latest chic thing to do 
   in Hollywood.

   Can anyone think of other examples?

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                            -- jogle
                               geigel@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 20:59:07 EST
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
 <1992Nov18.233424.2539@pellns.alleg.edu> <92324.205614MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

In article <92324.205614MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> says:
>
>I think I'll go home and listen to what I consider the best ten
>bands (or artists) of all time:
>
> 5. Randy Edelman

As luck would have it, not having seen nor heard mention of this name
since his song 'Concrete and Clay' was getting top40 airplay eons ago,
I got a press release the day after I posted this which mentioned
Edelman.  Along with Trevor Jones, Edelman has scored the soundtrack
to _Last Of The Mohicans_.  Interesting...
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                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: syd@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dennis P Hilgenberg)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Summary: Smash the Oligarchy
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 15:47:02 GMT

jim hori recommends:

	1) The Hippy Boys
	2) The Soul Vendors
	3) The Skatalites
	4) The Roots Radics
	5) The Upsetters
	6) Tommy McCook and the Supersonics
	7) The High Times Band
	8) The Soul Syndicate
	9) The Revolutionaires (sic)
	10) The Soul Defenders

	Honorable mention: the Robotiks, Steely and Clevie

I only recognize a few of these (Skatalites and Upsetters 
primarily) and certainly second the recommendation -- thanks 
for the additional suggestions.

Those wishing to sample a bit of these and other bands might
want to check out "Intensified!" and "More Intensified!",
a pair of compilations from the early- to mid-60's.  They're
on Island.  Really excellent music, and a nice diverse
helping of very catchy and memorable Ska music.

For a more updated/modern sound, "This are Two Tone", distributed
by Chrysalis, is, for the most part, very good.  The Selecter,
The Specials, The Beat, The Swinging Cats, Rhoda Dakar, etc.

-- 
Dennis Hilgenberg
syd@ecn.purdue.edu
LaRouche in '96
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd,rec.music.newage,alt.music.progressive
From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Subject: Re: Where is ranjit???
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:18:53 GMT

shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>
>It was ranjit@synopsys.com. Has anyone ordered from Ranjit lately ?
>              ^^^^^^^^
>
>You might try cross posting to the progressive music news group
>since the readers there often order from ranjit. 
>

Sure have.  I just exchanged some email with him today.  He's got some
nice additions to his list.  His current address is:

ranjit@netcom.com

Do not use the synopsys address to mail to him.
-- 

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From: andrewf@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Andrew Fong)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Eurogliders
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:01:14 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32

ramon@convex.com (Ramon Dominguez) writes:

>Have Eurogliders released anything before or since "This Island"?

I assume you mean the Australian group ? They split up quite a while
back, Grace Knight the lead singer has turned to jazz and sings at
various clubs every so often.

There are a lot of new Australian bands but I don't know what sort
of overseas distribution they get. I assume that Australian music
has a pretty low profile except for the bigger acts like INXS and
Crowded House.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: rudolph@cyan.Berkeley.EDU (Chuck E. Rudolph)
Subject: When is the new Tori Amos due out?
Reply-To: chuck.rudolph@cigseg.rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Radio Telephone Systems Group, Motorola
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:40:14 GMT


A couple of months back, I heard an interview with Tori Amos on the
radio.  She mentioned a new album that sounded as if it was due out
reel soon.  She wouldn't mention the title though.  She said it was a
secret.  Does anybody know when (or if) this album is going to be
released?

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: rec.music.misc will eat itself (Was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:49:07 GMT

When I posted my top ten list a while back, I posted it to alt.rock-n-roll. 
I did not realize at the time that it was being cross-posted. Blame my 
newsreader which doesn't display newsgroups unless I tell it to, and I don't.
	I don't think my list caused this huge flamewar, I thank the Rush-
heads for that. 
	I would like to thank the Erland Cult for carrying this thread to 
the heights of absurdity. I personally know one of these guys, and yes, he 
tends to be a bit of a musical snob. When I told him I bought the new Mother 
Love Bone Compilation, He said something like "You've got to be kidding, 
that's the lamest piece of trash I've heard recently." Now, If I did not 
know him well, and consider him to be a friend, I would have been terribly 
offended. Hey, what can I say, I like it. I also like Rush, although I've 
never been accused of thinking Neil Peart was anything other than a 
competent drummer, and psuedo-intellectual lyric hack. I just like to 
listen to them.
	I think that there are certain Rush-heads on this list who deserve 
to be flamed, but come on guys! I know it's fun to see who can come up with 
the wittiest retort, and display their huge knowledge of alternative music, 
but this thread has gotten way way way way out of hand. Well, maybe not yet, 
but it's going there. And it's totally useless for anyone to read it, 
because it's now just the same people jabbing at each other, and having a 
great laugh about it. 
	Damn I wish I had a kill file.


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
==============================================================================
--"It's the sound of the secret--  jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
-- machinery at the center of  --  jjonsson@utahlib.bitnet
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: ccamfiel@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Christopher Camfield)
Subject: Re:  Top 10 bands of all time
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:45:02 GMT

In article <BxqL8F.47E@acsu.buffalo.edu> v078pz5z@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Matthew J Goergen) writes:
>I have some corrections for the top 10.  Take out The Police(
>not that good), 
[rest of article deleted]

Whether or not you believe that The Police were good or not, you cannot
deny the fact that they added new musical influences to mainstream music.
(ie semi-reggae (? whichever it was) beat), that greatly influenced bands
in the early 1980s.  IMO, they go right up there tied for #1 with the
Beatles.

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: lee@tellabs.com (Eric Lee)
Subject: Re: Top 4 Heroin songs of all time
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle, IL
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:25:21 GMT

Someone once suggested "Hey Jude" by the Beatles was a heroin song
and now every time I hear it it seems to fit.
Much like "Hotel California" being an insane asylum song.

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: mccombj@alleg.edu (The Great Gazoo)
Subject: Re: Movie stars in rock videos
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:10:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.140042.1784@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>  
gillon@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
> -------> Well, there's also Michael J.Fox in "Too Late for Goodbye" by 
> Julian Lennon
> 
	
Not quite -- MJ Fox was in Julian's "Stick Around" video.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:07:54 GMT

In <leo.722161888@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) writes:

>Ray certainly doesn't need me to defend him, but I can't sit still
>while you keep accusing him of things he did not do: he is not saying
>that someone's views are worthless because we don't 'know his musical
>exposure' -- he is saying someone's views are worthless precisely
>because they are revealed to be extremely *narrow* views, and because
>they are being presented to us as facts.

"Being preented to us as facts?"  Asuming Shea has been on the net for
a while (which he has), I would think that by now he would recognize
that nearly everything written here is *opinion*, and even if
it is being presented as fact, the discerning reader should realize
that a post is opinion anyways.

I am the orignal poster of this thread...I was bored, and decided to post
my opinion of the top 10 bands of all time.  I was not responsible
for the knee-jerk reaction of Shea and others which has flooded this
group in recent days.

What I originally posted is my opinion, is still my opinion, and 
if you disagree with it, that is your right.  As far as my white, suburban
background which influenced my choices, well, if you don't like where
I came from, than you are prejudiced. If you think it means
I only think in a certain way, than you are stereotyping me.
Ray Shea's opinion and background are not "superior" to mine, or
anyone elses.  He is just one of thousands with opinions, as I am.

--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: piele@cs.uwp.edu (Don Piele)
Subject: Peggy Sue
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:04:58 GMT


I need to know the words to the Buddy Holly song Peggy Sue.
Could someone help me out?

Please send your response to 
Don Piele
piele@cs.uwp.edu

Thank you.
-- 
Don Piele                                        piele@cs.uwp.edu                                          
University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Kenosha, WI 53141
414-634-0868
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Et Ego in Arcadia....(was: Top 10 bands of all time)
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:19:04 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
>It isn't spoken word, so I would guess it is a form of music (as
>mutated a form as it is). 

Yikes. The man's never heard a lick of Hindi Film Music, or Zorn's
"game" pieces or even Bela Fleck (to put some hardcore commercial
spin on it). And he's talking *mutated?* Get Ze Life, as we say in
Fransh. 

But seriously, gents. This old fart is interested in highjacking this
bit of thought. Rather than indulging in the undergraduate olympics,
let's try this for collections of opinion:

As you trace an artist's career *backwards*, you occasionally come to
a kind of confluence of persons who work together, whose work later on
seems either to be more interesting than the place began, or whose
group of original musicians features an interesting mix of personalities.
Bad example: the progressive wonk honking furiously about the old Genesis.
(even *with* factoring in Tony Phillips, much as I may like "The Geese
and the Ghost.")

Good example: David Grisman's first band: Darrel Anger, Rob Wasserman,
Tony Rice, and Grisman.

Case A bifurcates into more of the same. Case B winds up on all kinds
of labels working with all kinds of folks. Another case B will probably
wind up being, say, "Bitches' Brew" era Miles. Japan makes a bad example
of bifurcations, Yellow Magic Orchestra does considerably better. Big 
Star? Wire?

And, in case it's not already clear. This is solely a function of personal
opinion.... I'm simply curious to know how those learned voices I've
come to respect would think about bands whose sum of its parts is 
greater than the whole.

Beats another top ten listing, anyhow. Oh yes - it's perfeoctly proper 
to include the occasional womon or grrrl, and interracial examples
are encouraged.
--
-The world exhausts everything except my eyes/because it is a long walk to the
world/begun before I was born. In the far corner/the dead woman bows off stage
The television/crumples into a white dot as the last/train of the evening - my
train, is announced/I lived in one place. I want to die in another 608-828-3385
From: andreb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Andre Bergholz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: new New Order?...
Date: 21 Nov 92 13:10:19 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

In article <BxxzKJ.1oH@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>, koppi@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Jeffrey Alan Koppi) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Does anyone know when, (if) New Order will release another CD?...
|> 
|> 
|> Jeff Koppi
|> koppi@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu

A rumour says it will be released in Febr. 93...

Andre


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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:27:37 GMT

In <leo.722248181@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) writes:

>falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood) writes:

>> ok... so you are telling us that Ray's top ten groups of all time are the
>> _real_ top ten???

>I chose perpetual motion machines as an analogy example for a
>*reason*, you know. I can't read Ray's mind, and after this followup
>I'll stop trying to do so, but it seems obvious to me that Ray feels
>you *can't* ever come up with 'the top ten groups of all time'. In
>order to say "this is not the correct answer" you don't always have to
>be able to give that correct answer yourself.

exactly... well you can answer most questions with what you see as the
truth... in each situation or circumstance there are _infinite_ truths...
you _can_ come up with the top ten groups of all time very easily... those
then become the top ten groups as you see them... there is nothing wrong
with that... i agree that there is no way to come up with an objective list
since there is no such thing as an objective reality (my firm belief)  but
for each person there is a top ten bands of all time... and each person has
a right to that and since this is america (for me at least) (BTW i am at
the same school as Mr. Silverman) each person has a right to express their
opinions...  i have a feeling that this thread was started as an attempt to
see who liked what and what bands were considered the best by the people
who read this group...


>> all that
>> anyone can express their opinions and this is the place to do it... but if
>> people are going to be flamed for doing so, then the use of the net will
>> decrease greatly... and then you guys would be out of people to flame...

>Everyone has a right to an *informed* opinion. If you are willing to
>inflict your opinions upon hundreds of fellow newsgroup readers then 
>you also gotta be prepared to take the heat if they turn out to be
>extremely uninformed and narrow opinions. Especially if you don't
>even present them as opinions but as objective facts.

people are as informed as they want to be... you can tell people anything
you want and it is their choice whether or not to listen...  _you_ feel
that they are narrow and uniformed... they can say the same about you...
just because they are 'experienced' in a different form or genre of music
doesn't mean that they are uninformed... i have found that especially in
this college environment and in most environments when you aren't cut off
from society you are adequately exposed to other forms of music to know
what you like...  there is no such thing as a narrow opinion... it is the
opinion that that person holds and to them it is sufficiently broad... if
you see it as narrow and uninformed then that is _your_ problem and not
theirs... of course they are going to present them as facts... to them they
are... cogitate on that for a while...
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive
From: mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Re: Progressive Rock Groups/Musicians
Organization: HAM Radio Station N9EUZ, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:51:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.050958.3224@Csli.Stanford.EDU> you write:
>alxs_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Alex Slotkin) writes:
>
>>Also, can anybody give me any info or opinions on the following groups:
>>   Alpha III, Art Bears, Ash Ra Temple, Atomic Rooster, Banco, Barclay James
>>Harvest, Blodwyn Pig, Bodast, Brainbox,

Brand X - are a good jazz/rock fusion band.
Check out their live album _Livestock_. 

, Centipede, Circus, Circus 2000
>>, Colosseum, Colosseum II, Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Dream Theater, Egg,
>>Ekseption,

Eloy - are a German progressive space-rock band.
Check out my extensive discography posted here
only days ago...

, Episode, Family, Fields, Fred Frith, Giraffe, The Gods,
>>Greenslade, Grobschnitt, Hatfield & the North, Steve Hillage, Iconoclasta,
>>IQ, Henry Kaiser, Lucifer's Hammer, Magellan, Magma, Mastermind, Mogul Thrash,
>>The Muffins, Omega, Ovary Lodge, PFM, PM, Pavlov's Dog, Pendragon, Random
>>Hold, Refugee, Renaissance, Shadow Gallery, Soft Machine, Tempest, Steve
>>Tibbetts, Keith Tippett, Tomorrow, David Torn, Trace, The Trip, Univers Zero,
>>UZEB & World.
>
>They're good.
>
>-- Clay

Oh and thanks for the input Clay... (-8
- Mike

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From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: 2 songs: who did them?
Date: 21 Nov 1992 05:06:40 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunstroke.sdsu.edu

In the last few weeks I have heard two songs on the local "alternative"
station.  They sound ever so familiar but I can't pinpoint the artist.

Song 1, lyric snippet:

"I'll stop the world and melt with you"

Song sounds like early 80s Eurosynth pop, with vocals sounding somewhat like
those of the Psychadelic Furs though not quite.

Song 2, lyric snippet:

"Must be an angel (oooooh eeee oooooh ) right now"

Again, similar genre as song 1, sound a bit like Alphaville but I don't think
it is.  the "oooooh eeee oooooh" is done by a female in a very high voice.

Can anyone help me.  Artist, song and album would be appreciated.


thanks,

Derek 
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