HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: krouth@etcs03.eld.ford.com (Kevin C. Routh)
Subject: Trident X11 drivers...
Reply-To: krouth@etcs03.eld.ford.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:30:54 GMT

Where would I obtain the Trident 8900C alpha-test drivers?

Assuming I have the three X11 disks installed on my hard disk, how would
I install them?

I'm willing to alpha-test them!

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IC Engineering (formerly ASIC Technology Group)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Problem: Compiling ps-0.97.2
Keywords: ps
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  2 Sep 92 15:28:16 GMT

I'm trying to compile ps for 0.97pl2, and when compiling "free" there's
a problem:

free.c:273: in function "show_buf":
free.c: structure has no member named "b_size"

(now that's typed in from memory, but you get the gist of it).
Obviously this is a header file confusion. What should free.c be including
to get the buf.b_size member in that structure? Thanks a lot for
any help.

mdw
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jsbazine@garfield.waterloo.edu (Steve Bazinet)
Subject: A quick question
Reply-To: jsbazine@garfield.waterloo.edu
Organization: Department of Computing Services, University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:22:05 GMT

I have a quick question for all you linux users.

If I have a hard drive partioned 150M for C and 100M for D, Can I install linux 
on my D drive without wiping out my C drive? 

Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joel@skater.GSFC.NASA.Gov ("Joel K. Gallun")
Subject: Re: Ethernet drivers
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:55:16 GMT

Hi,

I have the source to the BSD 3c503 driver, but don't have any idea how
to make in into a Linux driver.  If you want it, its yours. OR...
if you can point me to the "Guide to writing a Linux device driver",
I'll have a crack at it.

BTW,  I have a bunch of 3c503s, too.

Joel Gallun                        Internet: nnjkg@robots.gsfc.nasa.gov
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center      Voice: (301) 805-4545
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: minyard@crchh453.bnr.ca (Corey Minyard)
Subject: Re: VM386?  Possible?
Keywords: windows,386,vm
Reply-To: minyard@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 22:49:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.212303.2509@athena.mit.edu>, tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
|>    From: lm@slovax.Eng.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy)
|>    Date: 1 Sep 1992 17:08:52 GMT
|>    Reply-To: lm@sun.UUCP (Larry McVoy)
|> 
|>    Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible to run a 386 program on a
|>    virtual 386 on a real 386?  The reason I ask is this: aren't a lot 
|>    of dos programs running in 386 mode?  So even if you got VM86 working
|>    and got a dos emulator running, wouldn't things like windows apps
|>    not run at all?  Or is everything still running as an 8086?
|> 
.
.
.
|> 
|> It's true that you won't be able to run Windows on a VM86 emulator ---
|> but that's because it's trying to be an *operating system*, and Linux has
|> control over all of the page tables, interrupt descriptor tables, etc.,
|> and it cannot reliquish them over to Windows without completely messing
|> up Linux.
|> 
|> But for the majority of the PC *applications*, this shouldn't be a
|> concern; they tend to be written using only 8086 code.
|> 
|>                                              - Ted

Well, the majority of the applications my wife uses are ms-windows.  She
sure hates having to reboot the machine to go between linux and windows.

It should be technically feasible to have a "windows" emulator under
linux (using X for its display!).  The screen stuff shouldn't be too
difficult, just tedious.  The hard stuff would be memory handling and
running things in 286 protected mode.

If anyone wants to do this, I will volunteer as a beta tester!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Corey Minyard
From: hlu@fili.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Next major release of the Linux C library
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:27:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Aug31.002754.13507
Organization: Washington State University

Hi,

There will be a major release of the Linux C library in a few days.
Since kernel 0.97 pl 2, Linux supports 3 GB process memory and
new locations of the shared images. To take advantage of these new
features, the next release of shared libs will have jump table 3.0,
developed by David Engel and modified by me, which will at least
start at 0x60000000 (1.5GB). I have left plenty of room for each
library. So in the future, if the binaries are linked with
jump table, upgrade library will be transparent to those binaries.
We also have lots of room for other libs, like InterView.

But since the X11 libraries are too complicated to make a jump table
for them, the X11 shared images will be built with old scheme. But
they will resolve their external reference with the jump table
version of the C library. That means you have to relink your
X11 applications only if the sources for X11 libs are changed. Change
of the Linux C library will be transparent to them.

Due to my classes and jon hunting, I will not be able to privide
any documentations of it for a while. If you are making binaries for
distribution purpose, please join the GCC channel and also drop me
a note. I'd like to see all the future distributed binaries are linked
with jump table 3.0. BTW, soft and hard math libraries are also
transparent to executables in jump table 3.0.

I have compiled the latest file, text, shell, grep, find, awk, make,
elvis, patch, minicom and lots of other stuffs with the testing release
of jump table 3.0. They are all working fine under 0.97 pl 2, execept
for elvis 1.6. With elvis 1.6, I have some problems with `insert' mode.
It adds a tab on screen instead of a space. I have to use ^L to get it
to normal. I am using termcap in rootimage 0.97.1.

H.J.
------
gcc/libc maintainter for Linux
From: sundaram@cps.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: How to create a user and other questions!
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:09:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: sundaram@arctic.cps.msu.edu


Hi y'all,

OK, I have SLS 0.96 up and running smoothly. 

--- How do I create a user?

---When I log in as user1, the system will not let me set a passwd. How
	do I get around this. It says that it could not read the passwd 
	file. I know I have to do something with chown, but what? 

--- As user1, I cannot run any programs - eg kermit.  

--- When I try to use emacs, it says that it cannot find some 'X' library.
	Since my current Video card is NOT supported by Linux, I have not 
	installed X yet. Is there a work around for this?

--- WHere can I find a port of Tcsh for Linux 0.96

--- WHere do I get mtools - so I can read/writye MS-DOS Floppy disks.
	Were these included in the SLS Dist.? If so where?

That's all, for now (=>). I would appreciate any help on this.

Finally,
	I would like to know who to contact about documentation for Linux.
	I am interested in working on the docs. 

Thanks

Divya
(sundaram@cps.msu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: Re: Killing background processes on logout
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:44:13 GMT

I was under the same assumption that processes attached to the controlling tty
were killed on logout, but anything that had detached was immune.  That view
does not seem to be shared by others.  I'm still not sure which way I want to
lean yet...if a program is running on a particular tty in the background, what
is to prevent the next user from logging in on the same tty to not get the
output from the program?  I even noticed that output from the program appeared
at a login: prompt since getty was running on the same tty I had previously
started a background job on.  That does not seem right.

-kwh-
-- 
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hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: tsx-11.mit.edu
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:25:20 GMT

It's still there.  Maybe the problem is local to your network or
Internet connection?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: michaelw@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: Modem dial-in procedures needed
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:14:10 GMT

Well, what will happen if the Modem hangs up with a NO_CARRIER in the shell?

Does it get killed as it should or would the next calling user find an open
account? 


This has of course been solved long ago in other unix-Versions, but I have
no idea how? Any unix-wizard here?

It would be *very* good to have a getty that checks for the online-status,
that does only fork off a login if there was a proper CONNECT 38400...
whatever, and does start a receivefax if it said CONNECT FAX, or a
voice-handling system with CONNECT VOICE...

Has this been solved?

Leaning back and waiting, Michael Will from Hamburg, West-Germany
From: wlodarz@tc.ich.us.edu.pl (Joachim J. Wlodarz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: In-Reply-To: DR DOS and linux boot, 14 char filenames
Date: 4 Sep 1992 07:39:39 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: wlodarz@plktus11.bitnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

==============================================================================


 Message-ID: <1574@lysator.liu.se>
 Sender: news@isy.liu.se (Lord of the News)
 Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:39:47 GMT
 Lines: 18


> How do I get DR-DOS 6.0 to recognize two diffrent bootable systems,
> i.e. DR-DOS and Linux ?   There should be some boot function switch.

> When I try to run BOOTLIN as a normal program in DR-DOS it is possible
> to boot linux, provided I have no loaded device drivers, few buffers,
> no environment, etc...   When I try to run it as a program under
> DR-DOS with all my device drivers, himem, environment and stuff, it
> loads, loads linux kernel, I get as far as the message 'Press RETURN
> to see SVGA-modes...'.  However, regardless of whether I press RETURN
> or any other key, the machine hangs there.  Ctrl-Alt-Del is also
> disabled.   Is there something easy I can do about it?

  Yes !

  As the FIRST line of your CONFIG.SYS write this:

      ?" Boot LINUX (Y/N) ? " CHAIN LINUX.SYS

  Then create the LINUX.SYS file containing only one line:

      SHELL=BOOTLIN IMAGE

  where IMAGE is the Linux bootable kernel transferred to DR DOS.

  I'm assuming here that the files LINUX.SYS, BOOTLIN.COM and IMAGE
  are all placed C:\ and that IMAGE is correctly labelled with rdev.

  Then, after reboot, you will be prompted

    Boot LINUX (Y/N) ?

  When you hit y/Y you will "boot" LINUX through BOOTLIN.COM,
  hitting n/N you simply continue the CONFIG.SYS.

  More sophisticated "boot menu" may be created using the SWITCH
  command in CONFIG.SYS.

>
> and....
>
> Where do I find the stuff for more than 14 characters in linux
> filenames?    Does it work properly?
>
>
 Try the efsprogs7.tar.Z package at tsx-11.mit.edu.
 It is still in ALPHA stage and may contain some bugs.


 Hope this helps.

 -jj

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From: beers@acsu.buffalo.edu (Andrew Beers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Berkeley mail?
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:50:08 GMT
Organization: UB

Is anyone in the linux world out there porting a Berkeley-ish mail program to
Linux?  I didn't see it in the project registry, so I'm wondering if anyone is
working on it in secret.  :-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Andrew C. Beers, N2LUH             beers@cs.buffalo.edu  
SUNY Buffalo, Computer Science     {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!beers
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: symlinks in 0.97pl2
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:35:46 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Sep2.205903.6121@julian.uwo.ca> klode@syslab.csd.uwo.ca (Claude Morin) writes:
>SunOS 4.1.1 allows the following:
>
>	 r-x--x--x	...		ff*
>	lrwxrwxrwx	...		bob -> ff*
>
>	rubble[400] % cat bob
>	#!/bin/sh -
>	echo hello
>	rubble[401] % ./ff
>	hello
>	rubble[402] % ./bob
>	hello
>
>So I guess that linux is 'broken'.  Perhaps linux is displaying correct POSIX
>behaviour...

No, linux isn't "posixly" correct: it's a bug that creapt in with the
changed symlink code in 0.97.pl2.  The pl2 behaviour is to require
read-permissions of any target of a symlink, which is definitely wrong -
but I already corrected it, and pl3 (out Saturday) gets it right.  pl3
also contains the multiple swap-file and swapoff() code, as well as
various other minor fixes.  If pl3 is ok, I'll probably release it later
as 0.98 with no essential changes: just adding the tcpip directory and
possibly other "secondary" code. 

		Linus
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: DISASTER AT MIT!!!!!
Date: 1 Sep 1992 23:18:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Someone seriously need to do some housekeeping in the LINUX directories
on TSX-11.MIT.EDU. It's a wreck.

Anyone up to it???????


-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: Creating/Formating a 200 MB partition.
Organization: Borland International
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 08:30:21 GMT

LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) wrote:
>    [From Remy Card's README:]
>    However, the new ext fs will be able to coexist with the current one,
>    so transition will be easy.  Moreover, a program will be available to
>    convert a current ext fs to the new format.
> 
> This suggests that even if you do use the extended file system for your
> large partitions, you ought to have two or three of them so that you can
> convert them into the new format one by one and transfer data across.

That won't actually be necessary, since the conversion program that I've
written does a wonderful job of converting a first-generation efs partition
into the second-generation format right where it sits.  This program will
be included with the release of EFS: The Next Generation, so even if you
only have one large efs partition, you won't have to go through a full
mkfs/restore to use the new efs (of course, the disk is already backed
up, right?)  I've been testing it using fairly large loop partitions
(thanx Werner), and will soon use it to convert my entire disk.  I've
just been waiting to make sure that there will be no further changes to
the new efs disk format -- Remy is still putting the finishing touches on
things.  The public release for alpha testing is just around the corner.
-- 
Wayne Davison
davison@borland.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao)
Subject: ps-0.97p2 problem.
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:46:41 GMT

After compiling ps-0.97p2 and new kernel, ps (and free etc.) still doesn't
work properly: free "can't read /dev/swap" , although I have /dev/swap
symbolic linked to my swap_file.
-- 
Jiansheng Zhao
Dept. Chem. Eng, Univ. of B. C., Canada. V6T 1Z4
zhao@unixg.ubc.ca
From: ace3@quads.uchicago.edu (Tony 'LLama' Acero)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem with find in MSDOS file system
Summary: doesn't recurse all subdirectories
Keywords: DOS FS, linux, find
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:51:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Aug28.155134.24843
Reply-To: ace3@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I'm using kernel v 0.97.2 and I have recompiled the find program using GCC
v2.2.2d.  I mount my c: and d: drives on /c and /d with the command(s)
mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /c
mount -t msdos /dev/hda2 /d

when I perform a 'find /'

find goes through and lists all the files in my linux extended file
systems, but when it gets to the dos files systems I get the following:

/d/bc/bgi
/d/bc/bgi/aaa
.
.
.
/d/bc/bgi/zzz
/d/bc/bin
/d/bc/lib       <---- doesn't go into bin and list the files there
...                   or in any other subdirectories of /d/bc


In general, when find reaches the 3rd level of subdirectory nesting in a
DOS file system, it will only list the files in the first such
sub-directory.

I'd like to help figure out what's going on, but I'm not sure if the
problem is in find, or the fs/msdos stuff.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

tony acero
ace3@quads.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: langley@med.unc.edu (Ken Langley)
Subject: Re: WANT GCC? FORGET FAQ.GCC AND README?? READ THIS FIRST!!!!
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:16:10 GMT

In article <186a86INNcsb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>    [stuff deleted]
>The reason that we have to do all this crap is because LINUX has a
>limitation on length of filenames. UNIX doesn't have them. 
>DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS CAN BE CHANGED??????
>
SunOS and most BSD-derived versions do not have this limitation, however
I do believe that AT&T SVR4 compliant versions have a filename limit
length of 14 characters.  So yes, the actual OS named UNIX(tm) do
have a limitation on length of filenames.  Sorry if I am being pedantic
but USL is being very particular about certain things these days.

Ken
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From: u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards)
Subject: SCSI Card:Procom woes
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:42:01 GMT


	I own a scsi card a "Procom" (its 8bit). Now for this to run on my
dos system it needs a dos driver, I am just looking at the manual and it
says the driver is only needed to allow DOS to access more than 2 non-floppy
disk drives and so that DOS can handle removable scsi-media.
	Is there any way at all Linux can be made to "see" the scsi card
and thus my scsi HD. I have a 330meg scsi hard drive which I would love to
be able to use with linux (at the moment I have had to partition off a
40meg ide drive - so that linux only has about 20meg at the moment).


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From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Dialups: Locking DTE speed and Carrier Loss ???
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:27:33 GMT
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.

In article <c+hn00f.james@netcom.com>, james@netcom.com (James L. Paul) writes:
> I'm using 0.97.1 and GCC 2.2.2 with uugetty from the getty_ps package.
> 
> Is there a standard modem command (AT set) to lock the serial speed to
> one value independent of modem speed. I can't find one for any of my
> modems (so they obviously might not support it) but I'd like to know
> what the command is, so that I can try it.
 
Nope.  It's modem specific.  My USR and my Telebit both do it differently.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: yuanyin@utdallas.edu (Yuan-Yin Wu)
Subject: Re: Mtools documentation (was Re: Clue?)
Followup-To:  comp.os.linux
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Distribution:  world
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:07:34 GMT

In article <5750@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) writes:
>In article <MedHI8O00WBLM7_V8v@andrew.cmu.edu> dsa3+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Reeve Sward) writes:

With all the fuss about mtools, I'm wodering what's the point? With
DOS fs, should mtools be obsolete? (except perhaps, mformat).

>>4) mtools.  Where can I find docs for mtools?  (DOS is on C, Linux is on
>>D with 3 partitions - 18M /, 63M /usr & 10M swap).
>
>The manual pages are included in the source, available from (I think)
>tsx-11.mit.edu in /pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/mtools.n2.tar.Z or from
>ftp.mcc.ac.uk in /pub/linux/src/usr.bin/mtools.n2.tar.Z.
>
>I recently added to the MCC interim version a README file containing parts
>of the original README and of Werner Almesberger's README; I have removed
>the parts concerned with compiling mtools and left only the user-specific
>bits.  See mcc-interim/0.97p2/README.mtools in /pub/linux at ftp.mcc.ac.uk
>and in /pub/linux/mirrors/mcc-interim at tsx-11.mit.edu.
>
>     -- Owen
>     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk


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