HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: Zaphod's sig questions (was re: and stuff...and  Re: Gypsy makes a toast
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.120122.11655@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, sjane@bmers248.bnr.ca (sjs) writes:
>>"How much control of my life do I want to leave in the hands of others?"
>>  Not very much.
>
>   Ahhh, but there is often a large gap between 'want to' and 'actually'.
>   Are you married?  How much control over your life does your s.o. have?
>   Have you got children?  How much control over your life do they have?
>   How much control over your life at work, does your employer have?  
>   Me, I'm married.  I negotiate for control over my life (and his).

Well, in my case I'm single, and whether or not my employer has any control
over my life at work is a moot point:  I like what I do for a living, and my
employer values me as an employee.  How do you distinguish in such a case
between "I do what I do at work because I like to do it" and "I do what I do at
work because that's what my employer wants me to do"?

>>"Why do so many people still work within the stereotypes?"
>>  Because sterotypes are easy.  If we had to think of people as
>>  individuals, why it wouldn't be that easy to hate them, now would
>>  it?
>>
>   Because stereotypes are easy.  If we can lump people into categories,
>   we don't need to think any more about them.  The label on the 
>   category tells us how to think of them & how to deal with them.

Because stereotypes are useful.  They provide a useful starting point.  When
you first meet someone, until you have a chance to learn more about them, a
stereotype (as long as it's reasonably accurate) allows you to deal effectively
with that person.
From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Gypsy makes a toast
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:20:08 GMT
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: RICOH California Research Center

Gypsy Woman leaves the meadow in a disconsolate
swirl of scarves.  The noise of Fast Eddie's piano 
swells as she steps into the Place.  

"Mike, I'd like Tuaca and hot chocolate please."

Gypsy walks over to the chalk line and sips her
drink.  She draws the warmth down into herself 
and musters the resolve to give a toast.

"To health -- may we value what we have"

The glass hits the fireplace with a crash.  Gypsy
heads for a corner and pulls out a deck of cards.

   ,
Slan go foil, ( bye for now)

Rowan Fairgrove
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: re: SEA takes a ride...
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:16:43 GMT
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway


 Got busy, here's a continuation.


   { DJ does his imitation of Robin Williams doing Bruce Springsteen
    imitating Elmer Fudd. Why, I don't know ! Third base ! }

 "Widing in my cah, wistening to the wadio !
  having so much fun, awot to do, shift those gears,
  winding around the corners, speeding through the
  straight aways. Tuneing the wadio wooking fowah
  the 'Radar Love' song ! hehehe ! Wasically wabbit !

  Wooking for a wookie, too just say hewwo,
  speeding up to the wight, its red don'tcha know,
  now its gween, time to go !

  Heading up the highway, wooking for adventure,
  in what ever comes my way, awwoaching the waunching
  getting up to wight speed !
  Top is down, air-tight integrity is in affect !
  awl systems go !
  stand by for waunch !

  Up the ramp to the first wing, <punch>
  Magnetic waunch ! Go !"

  <whooooooooosh !>

  "Wheeee !" SEA.

  <DJ back in his 'real' voice>

  "Well Spider, care to do your dance ?" DJ.

  "Okay Boss !" Spider.

  "Seats in the upright position ?" Spider

  "Yes !" SEA and DJ.

  "Seat belts okay ?" Spider.

  "Yes " SEA and DJ.

  "Starting dance procedure, Now !" Spider the car.

  "Wheee !" DJ and SEA.

  Twisting, twisting by the pool !

 { Have to get back to work. Later. }


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "NickD." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Cmp Sci
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "At least my initials aren't Dan Quayle." me
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From: ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Shonias)
Subject: Re: A return
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:43:14 GMT

In article <BrsK3t.7y3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
>
>"does DM have cold hands?  }:).....i am totally crushed..."  giggles
>kitten... 

"Sorry Kitten, don't fear! I wasn't implying that *he* had cold hands,
just that as a rule, one should be careful what one touches when one *does*
have cold hands. In fact his hands are quite warm"

Shonias



--
**********************************************
Walk by my side, and follow my dreams,
And bear with my pride, as strong as it seems.
Will you be there tomorrow?
**********************************************
From: salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: even more re: SEA takes a ride.
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:30:32 GMT
 <1992Jul26.070436.23494@lrmsc.loral.com>
 <1992Jul26.220126.4070@cco.caltech.edu>
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers

In article <1992Jul26.220126.4070@cco.caltech.edu>
lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.070436.23494@lrmsc.loral.com>,
salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850) writes:
>>In article <9207252213.AA13316@pops.navo.navy.mil>
pierce@navo.navy.mil (James M. Pierce) writes:
>>>
>>>   <whee> leapfrog over the satellites...
>>>
>>>  { Boss, whatch out for that military satellite }
>>>
>>>  "No problem Spider ! The suits are set to avoid them.
>>>   Shall we hold hands while the sun rises above the Earth's horizon ?" DJ.
>>>
>>>  "Well, okay," SEA.
>>>
>>>                                segue
>>>  'also spake Zarathustra'  ---------------------> 'Here Comes the Sun!'
>>>
>>>  'Here comes the Sun !
>>>   Here comes the Sun !'
>>>
>>And SEA starts singing..."And I say it's alright"...holding on to DJ's hand
>>they leapfrog another satellite.
>
>StM sends an emergency message.  "Carl has asked me to request that, while
>you're up there, you take a bit of a detour and kick the ribs on the high-gain
>antenna on Galileo."

"Hey, dreamy Jim...I'm game if you are.  Uhmmm, do you know how to do
what Carl needs done?"  SEA
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From: pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations I/O Operator
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1020]: spop.navo.navy.mil
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:59:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.212150.27323@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch) writes:
|>   Hugs to SEA, Shonias, DM, NickD, Niles, kitten, and to the
|>   Didi-Sprite, because Hugs can't be given, only borrowed.
|>   Sooner or later they return when you need them.
 
            "Thank you." DJ <hug!>
-- 
Disclaimer: Standard. Recent Album: Muddy Waters:Muddy Waters Live 
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From: salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850)
Subject: Re: SEA makes a decision
Summary:   Thank you
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers
 <1992Jul31.132128.2677@openage.openage.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:39:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.132128.2677@openage.openage.com>
gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:
>salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850) writes:
>
>The Golden Gryphon smiles as he sees SEA enter The Place again.
>
>[ Much good stuff on the reason for quitting deleted. ]
>
>HUG
hugs is the best...especially when they come from good friends.

>"My real advice to you is to not make the same mistake again.
>Don't rush into
>the first job offer if your not sure of the people you will be working with.
This is a given.  It wasn't really a mistake, when I hired on nearly
3 years ago it was with people I liked and wanted to work with.  There
have been so many reorganizations that I was shuffled around a lot.
John and I sort of inherited each other (he came in from Corporate
in New York and I was already in place as the department secretary).
I decided to do the right thing and give the guy a chance...too bad
he couldn't have done the same thing.  It's been 8 months of anguish.

>The worst possible thing that could happen is to start working for another
>no good moron, or someone worse!"
I agree.

>"Be consistant, follow up, and when interviewing remember that you are
>trying to
>get a feel for them, as well as them getting a feel for you."
This is good advice.  Thank you.
>
I'd like to take this space to publicly thank everyone for the
outpouring of support...it has been overwhelming and touching.
Your email and posts mean a lot to me.  I'm still willing to
listen to what you have to say...I don't have a job yet, but I'm
following up every lead that comes my way.

SEA


Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 09:11:55 EDT
From: Cathy Ridings <U3E67@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject:    Violence discussion

I have just read all of your posts regarding the questions I posed, and thought
I should make a few comments.

All of you made very good points! And I'm glad you took the time to respond!

I think the most important thing I can do is protect my young child from
seeing things that I beleive may harm her, and when she does view something
violent make sure I am there to talk to her about what she has seen.

I don't think I will stop her from watching cartoons though.  I grew up with
Road Runner and Tom and Jerry, and I haven't suffered - not that I can tell
anyway.

I DO NOT ADVOCATE CENSORSHIP!  So, I beleive that if something offends someone
then its up to that person to close ears, eyes, whatever.  I have to close my
eyes to TV and Movie violence.


In closing, I can't blame TV and movie violence for most of the violence going
on in America.  I DO beleive that it can harm our young children, if parents
aren't careful.


Cathy
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From: SG.MML@isumvs.iastate.edu (M. Loughin)
Subject: Re: Yet another sleepless night
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:38:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.161337.10915@cs.tulane.edu>,
pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:
>In article <Bs039K.A9p@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
>|> kitten looks down off the top of a mountain of soap boxes...hoping
>|> somebody will catch her if she jumps.
>
>        I will.
>DJ.

I would, too, but she'd have to jump up!  My pile is about
97000 boxes higher than hers.  Anyone got a parachute?  The
breeze is starting to pick up  . . .

--Marie
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From: lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower)
Subject: Manx's Toast
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:50:34 GMT


   Manx deals with all the necessaries of information, writing on
the birthday-board, "Manx: Born April 29, 1971", and below that,
"Aloysious: Born January 3, 1992".

   Then he sidles up to the bar. "Mike, a shot-glass of pasteurized,
homogenized milk for Aloysious, and whatever 195 proof liquor you
have in store for me."  He slaps down two bucks and takes his drinks.

   He sets the shot glass in front of Aloysious, who laps at it
furiously.  Meanwhile, he holds his foaming spitting glass at eye
level, and prepares to pontificate:

   "I have to say first, that I was amazed by the number of E-mail
responses I got from my self-introduction, all of them caring and
supportive, and trying-to-help-me-get-adjusted-ish.  It's what I
hoped for in Callahans, and I'm pleasantly surprised to find my
hopes fulfilled.

   "However, this provides a little problem to my first toast.  I
was trying to figure out one word for 'Compassion to the stranger
among you, and open armed welcome of a new friend.'  It is a sad
comment on Anglo-Saxon heritage that there is, to the best of my
knowledge, no English word for this.  Therefore, I hereby coin an
appropriate word for this (as is my fashion).  From here on out,
let callahans (no capitals) denote this set of wonderful feelings.

   "To callahans!"

   With that, Manx throws glass and liquor, undrunk, into the
fireplace.  An explosion rocks the bar, and flame momentarily
gouts from the pile of glass.

   "You didn't think I was going to _DRINK_ that did you?  Euugh!"

   Aloysious scratches Manx's leg, and he looks down to see that
the milk is gone.  "Alright, 'Loysious, I'll throw your toast for
you."  He picks up the glass and hoists it over his shoulder.

   "Mrow MRRowwrow" Aloysious states firmly.

   <crash>
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From: pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: Re: writing Re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-8235]: spop.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations I/O Operator
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 16:10:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.104635.22163@cco.caltech.edu>, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul25.173119.4449@cs.tulane.edu>, pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:
|> >    Oh, the Professor had degrees in both Archaology and computer science.
|>                                                       ---------------------
|> >    I don't think he ran the programs himself, I believe he was just
|> >    informing his class on some research he had read. Jim.
|> 
|> Well, that just shot his credibility all to hell :-).
|> 
|> -StM, who's had to work with too many people with CS degrees.

   Well, the next time I see him, probably next Spring as he is out on
  a dig right now, I'll ask him what his sources were. I believe it was
  at an archaological forum or something like it. I don't think he
  said he believed it or disbelieved it, just 'heres something for you
  to think about', I think... Really, he just mentioned it in passing.
  Hes also the one who told me not to make all of my degrees of the
  same major, as he did the entire class.
-- 
jmpierce%usmcp6.bitnet@vm.tcs.tulane.edu <- guaranteed there Wed. only !
Disclaimer: Standard. Recent Album: Muddy Waters:Muddy Waters Live
From: jim@oasis.icl.co.uk (Jim Cheetham x3121)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Wumpish things
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:42:04 GMT


Yawning widely for having gotten up too early for five months running
(or at least it feels like it ...) the Wumpus blinks blurrily around
the Place, and sees Montemplar trying to get his attention ...

"Ah, hello indeed! ICL life is going well, a complete change from when
 I first got here, I now almost don't have time to read news let alone
 contribute to the Net ...

"Still, from moving from a development environment into front-line support,
 I've now managed to move back into development - but this time it's not
 part of a big project team, it's developing support tools/systems to be
 used by the support team I was in ...

"We're talking setting up call management systems, setting up our Novell
 system for dial-in access, and outgoing connects to multiple networks,
 putting up CD-ROM image servers for on-line documentation, basically
 what I'd call playing with all the new toys!

"Oh yeah, and actively contemplating getting onto the first rung of the
 property ladder ... yecchh!
-- 
-jim cheetham  <jim@oasis.icl.co.uk> or  <J.Cheetham@bra0116.wins.icl.co.uk>
 International Computers Ltd. ICL BRA01 +44 344 424842 x3121 (ITN 7263 3121)
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From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Subject: Re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:02:13 GMT

My feeling is that common usage doesn't involve significant digits,
anyway--at a guess, it means something closer to +/- 20%. Even if
I'm right, this would be for modern Americans. Does anyone have
any idea what the fuzz ratio would have been for ancient Hebrews?
(I do have an impression that they used 70 to mean "a whole lot".

                                     ---whirlwind
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Yet another sleepless night
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:30:08 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera

In article <1992Jul21.195025.24102@news.iastate.edu>, SG.MML@isumvs.iastate.edu (M. Loughin) writes:
>I never said men weren't hurt by the views of a male-dominated
>society.  I'm only saying that I think it's a different problem.
>Afterall, if men are in control, aren't they in a better position
>to make changes?

What makes you think anybody's in control of society as a whole?  Certainly
some people are in control of some parts of society, but that doesn't mean that
they have any control whatever over other aspects.

>Ah, no.  I'm not saying this.  I'm saying that if men don't
>like this outcome, then why did they arrange for it, and why don't
>they change it?  After all, this is a male dominated society,
>isn't it?

Sounds to me like evidence that the term "male dominated" might be a bit of an
exaggeration, or at least is subject to interpretation in such a way that it
becomes an exaggeration.  If I'm driving a car, that doesn't mean I can make it
fly (well, not for long anyway :-).  Some things are difficult to change, even
if one is nominally in control of them.

>>I just cannot think that it is any better for a man to victimize another man
>>than to victimize a woman.  If the society abuses both men and women, isn't
>>it the fault of the society and those that control it (who in this case
>>happen to be men) rather than the fault of those being victimized who happen
>>to be the same sex as the oppressors?

Again, I think that there's an exaggeration here as to how much control we have
over our society.

>I'm not saying that *you* are responsible.  I'm just saying that
>there is a difference between peer pressure and oppression.  As a
>male in a male dominated society, aren't you (generically speaking)
>in a better position to do something about these problems?  Aren't
>you in a better position to defend yourself?

To defend myself, yes, if things get physical.  To change things, that's not at
all clear.
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From: HF.TXG@forsythe.stanford.edu (TJ)
Subject: Re: Yet another sleepless night
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:22:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.051816.24627@news.Hawaii.Edu>,
gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu (Jonathan Gardner) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.170404.20562@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.TXG@forsythe.stanford.edu (TJ) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul26.004152.18761@news.Hawaii.Edu>,
>>>
>>>"TJ, I'd like a root beer. (I don't trust the milk in this place
>>>anymore. :-) And I'll take a set of those hugs and kisses if I may."
>>>
>>><<<HUG>>>   <<<KISS>>>
>>>
>>>The Space Cadet
>>
>>"'kay, Mike, one root beer for the Space Cadet and I think I'll have
>>Pepsi (it's the choice for the new generation, don't ya know). Oh,
>>and don't mind us, Spacey and I are going to snuzzle a bit"
>>
>>*SNUZZLE* *SNUZZLE* *SNUZZLE* *SNUZZLE* *SNUZZLE* *SNUZZLE*
>
>The Space Cadet looks slightly miffed as TJ turns away from him and
>starts to snuzzle Spacey. He begins to think aloud, in the manner of
>people in comic strips and A.C.
>
><<Hmmm, should I be insulted? No, TJ and Spacey are two of my favorite
>Callahanians. (But see note*). Besides, this could be fun to watch.>>
>
>He thinks again,
>
><<But maybe TJ is getting us confused and doesn't know who she is
>snuzzling? It is true that Spacey and I live on the same island, attend
>the same university, and even, technically, are in the same department,
>although our offices are in different buildings. But she and I are
>different people, we didn't meet until I came in here, and we thought
>up our names independently. (Must be something in the water. :-) Should
>I introduce them?>>
>
>He looks, and sees that the snuzzling is continuing.
>
><<No, they seem to be introduced. Maybe they will let me join in for a
>snuzzle a trois?>>
>
>He waits patiently, sipping his root beer, for a break in the action.
>
><<They have to come up for air sometime.>>
>
>>
>>TJ
>
>The Space Cadet
>
>(*NOTE: My list of favorite Callahanians is a _long_ list. :-)
>--

Oh my, I am embarrased...it was a name thang. Oh dear, I seem to be
red from the tip of my toes to the top of my head...ah well, Space
Cadet, can you ever forgive me?

TJ
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From: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (The Didi-Sprite)
Subject: Re: Weird stuff
Originator: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:46:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.224426.5675@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch) writes:

That is ... Nathan writes:
>This reminds me of something that happened to me a few months ago.

[  a really neat story about the recycling possibilities for cow-dung
... ]
>
>And that is the story of the Peasant Rebellion of Bjornsborg, and
>how it was quelled by the defenders of Baroness Mari.
>
>Three cheers for Master Ragnar Ufgarson, Lady Gunnora Hallakava, and
>milord Giovanni (me).

The Didi-Sprite back away from Nathan a bit, a rather skeptical 
expression on her face:  "Ummmm ... alright ... three cheers for
Master Rag .. err ... well, three cheers for milord Giovanni, anyway!
Rah-rah-rah!"

{  Has anyone here actually had the pleasure of smelling months'
   old cow-dung?  }

----<--<@

The Didi-Sprite
Montreal * Canada

braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Weird stuff
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:56:40 GMT

lynn:

>The gold-haired woman steps up to order a drink.

>"Mike, how about a Bass Ale."  Mike magically makes a mug appear.

>"Today must've been an unusually slow news day."

>"How's that?" asks Mike.

>"The 8am headliner on the morning news was 'Gilroy Has Clydesdale Poop
>Race.'

>"I'm not making this up!  They're having some kind of event where they
>walk these horses, the horses defacate, and if you're ticket matches
>the marker where the biggest piece of horse poop lands, you win $2500.!

>"Of course, if I'd have titled this message 'Horse sh*t,' whod've
>believed I meant it literally?" :-)

"hi lynn....it is a form of bingo...they do it with cows too...at the
the cow version is called "cow chip bingo...."

kitten got this info from rita mae brown's book _bingo_ ....

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

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