HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tap1040@zeus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: I got my Super Bowl cap today!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:17 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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Well, I'm back from vacation!  I just have a few things to say to a few
people...

1)  To Mr. Aaron Perkins (a.k.a. Mr. Caps-lock):  remember your rantings
    at the beginning of the season saying, "THE EAGLES WILL GO 16-0 AND
    WIN THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!  HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!"???  Well, look
    who's laughing now. :-)

2)  To the gentleman who wrote the following at the mid-point of the
    season:  "The Cowboys are severely over-rated and will CHOKE
    come play-off time!!!!!"  They're in the Super Bowl.  :-)

3)  To Mr. John Gloria, who accosted me after the Cowboys loss to the
    Redskins:  I told you that you were acting as if YOUR team had
    won that game when in reality your team is the 49ers.  Well, now
    I should toast you, but instead, I'll just say that last Sunday's
    game between your team and mine was a GREAT game, and the best
    team won.  The Cowboys.  (or as you called them, "the cowpussies")
    I wonder what that makes the 9ers, since they lost.  :-)


Well, that just about covers it.  To all you long-time Dallas fans like
me who suffered through the lean years, knowing all along that someday
we'd make it back to the big one, REJOICE.


Ditka's gone...
                Worship Johnson NOW!

Go Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

___________________________________________________________________________
Tracy Persky           Texas A&M University           tap1040@zeus.tamu.edu

John Madden: "There's a good sign.  Troy Aikman putting his pants back on."
Pat Summerall: "That's ALWAYS a good sign."  (RFK Stadium, Nov. 24, 1991)
From: mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys vs AFC; Bills vs NFC
Date: 21 Jan 93 02:20:23 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <IK.93Jan19205453@puffin.ctt.bellcore.com>, ik@puffin.ctt.bellcore.co
m (Ik Su Yoo ) writes:
>
>I heard that the Cowboys are 4-0 vs the AFC west; the Bills 4-0 vs the NFC
>east.
No. The Bills beat the Falcons, 49ers, Rams, and Aints, all from the NFC west.
>
>Oh, and about the Bills having more SB experience...well, consider this:
>
>  - The Bills lost 2 SBs.
>
>  - The 49'ers won 4 SBs.
>
>  - The Cowboys beat the 49'ers.
So Did the Bills in week two.
>
>What does it all mean? Probably nothing. It should be a great game.
>
>Go Cowboys.
>
>--
>
>Ik Su Yoo
>RRC-4F728, x5764
>ik@mobydick.leis.bellcore.com
>
-- 
-Matthew Narby-
Buffalo BILLS
One Bills Drive
Orchard Park, N.Y.
Colors: Red, Blue and White
Rich Stadium
(80,020) NFL
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Hmmm...
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:18:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan20.232837.3567@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.172130.23100@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>>No thanx.. I have a life... 
>From you flame war habit, I doubt it ...

Well, you are the one who claims to do this solely for the flame war
"I am only into flame wars..." as you said once...

>>I have much better things to do that save and
>>reread your articles from November..  I speak about your habits of doing this
>>from our many wars.  
>Yes, so you speak about something irrelevant. Because I didn't do what you say
>in this thread.

Sure you did...
>
>>You have a history of making up the rules and changing them to your liking.  
>You have any evidence on this accusation? I only know that you have a
>history of wimping out after long flame wars ...

Sure, your claim of
"Yes, Meek, I did make up rules for comparsions,..."

Have any evidence on your accusation??? Not just your opinion, but evidence??

>>By the way, when commenting late last year that
>>we hadn't heard from you in a while, you flamed back that you didn't post 
>>during the preseason.  Well, it is not almost half-way through the season and
>>we still haven't seen your ugly face there.  
>That's because I still haven't watched any NBA. With the football season
>going into climax, there is no reason to.

Thank God, many people have been thankful for your absense...
>
>>Give up after all the abuse you took..
>Yes, I give up watching the 82-game exhibition season long time ago.

Oh, but you didn't mind the 16 game footbal exhibition season??  Or was it
that you hadn't been abused enough here, and thought you could get away with
it???
-- 
David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: SHANKAR@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Subramanian Shankar)
Subject: Reggie White ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:32:19 GMT

I read in one of the sports magazine that Dallas can sign up Reggie White.
I think according to this publication  Roonie's rule states that
top 4 teams can sign a free agent, if they let one of their free agents leave
and also pay the new free agent less than what they were paying the player
they let go.
Dallas I believe would let Steve Beur--(Their backup QB) go and sign Reggie
White.
	I think that is what it said. Jai
From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Perfect Dolphins Trivia
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:53:06 GMT
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

In article <1993Jan26.075416.2506@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
   So, which teams stopped each of these streaks?  I.e., 
   A) Who was the first team to beat Miami after 1972?
   B) Who was the first to win *in* Miami after 1972?
   C) And who was the first to beat the Fins in the playoffs after 72?

   Hint:  Oh, you guys don't need hints.

   --Gidi

A) the raiders
B) the raiders
C) the raiders

okay, actually the only one i'm very sure about is C.  the dolphins went
into oakland and lost a heartbreaker to the raiders, 28-26, and i'm pretty
positive this game was in '74, the year after the dolphins beat the vikes in
the super bowl.  but the others seem like good answers to me.

which brings up my raiders/dolphins/steelers 70s troika question

   between 1972 and 1980, miami, pittsburgh, and oakland won eight super
   bowls among them.  not including games against each other, they were 20-3
   in the playoffs combined during this span.  which teams did they lose to?
   (hint:  until buffalo beat pittsburgh this year - and not counting the
   super bowl tournament of 1982 -- one of these teams could say it was the
   only team other than miami or oakland to beat the steelers in the playoffs)

now, somre more of my own additonal trivia:

A) who was the only team to beat the raiders in 1976?
B) who was the only team to beat the 49ers in 1984 (the year they beat the
   dolphins in the super bowl)?
C) who was the only team to beat the bears in 1985?

D) bonus:  who was the only team to beat the redskins in strike-shortened 1982?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: robert@kohlrabi.tcs.com (Robert Blumen)
Subject: Re: Actual play time
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:59:54 GMT

In article <kfLOpUK00VpOMnWlAJ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 19-Jan-93 Actual play time
> Mike Judson@watserv.ucr. (684)
> 
> > I posted earlier asking if anybody knew what the average _actual_ play
> > time was for a regulation football game.  Somebody said that during one
> > game, an announcer timed the actual play time and it came out to 9.5
> > minutes.  Another person said that a study was done on this in which it
> > found that the _actual_ play time totaled 12 minutes on average.  Does
> > anybody have any citable documentation to prove this.  If so, could you
> > please E-mail.  It will be helpful in trying to settle a bet.  Thanks.
> 

This would go a long way toward explaining how coaches and players could 
watch the film for dozens of games, or the same film many times in preparing
for a game.  This would break down to about 4 or 5 min per team, so a
player could watch the unit he would be going against play an entire
game in a few minutes.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: wildcat@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Wes Wildcat)
Subject: Re: Famous Jerseys
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:08:22 GMT

In article <1jml7kINNih@mojo.eng.umd.edu> edquist@eng.umd.edu (Karl T. Edquist) writes:
>
>In article <JOHNDOE93Jan20.194122@jefferson.inmet>, johndoe@jefferson.inmet (johndoe) writes:
>>In article 155811RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET, RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET> () writes:
>>>
>>>If you see a player wearing nr.16 or 13, you associate immediately
>>>with Joe Montana and Dan Marino.....
>
>>>4. Brett Favre
>>    ^^^^^^^^^^^-this is a sad state of commentary on the #4s through history
>>>5. Paul Hornung
>>>6. 
>
>Where are the #6's?  Please don't say Marc Wilson.  Any good kickers?  
>
>
	Marc Wilson was number 8, The only number 6 that I know of is Charger
kicker Rolf Benerschke(definite sp).

>
>Karl
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ninth Annual All-Madden Team Announced
From: f67709907@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:26:34 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67709907

In article <1993Jan25.013106.12330@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR)) writes:
> Practically all of the names on his list are from the NFC! I only saw a couple
> of names from the AFC (mostly Houston). Sheeshhh....

In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: Doo-oh!  We went through this last
year!

Madden only picks players for his All-Madden team who he has seen play in
person.  That is why his list has so many NFC players on it.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin     "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate
f67709907@ccit.arizona.edu      things." -- Dan's advice to Pres. Clinton

   Delightful Things
     A love unknown to others.
     To have solved a riddle.
     A real bargain at a shop.
     A letter from one's sweetheart.
     When something one has ordered turns out well.
	-- from _Inumakura_ (The Dog Pillow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas vs. SF, N*iced* Notes
From: f67709907@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 21:09 MST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Summary: bad pun
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1jn26dINNp2l@news.aero.org>, mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes.
>* the field was great, as I thought it would be.  If the NFL has a week and
>  a ton of money to throw at a problem, it will be solved to some extent.  
>  My friend was wondering why they didn't just put a tent over the field and
>  drain it from the edges where the runnoff would be?  Fans could have bee
>  used to dry the inside....

Whose fans, Dallas's or San Francisco's?  Both had plenty of hot air to
spare.

Greg "on 2nd thought, maybe they shoulda borrowed Philly's" Franklin
From: v066pwk9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (BRUCE YAEGER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: ALL LOSER (MADDEN) TEAM = NFC
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:39:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan25.021853.16892@news.stolaf.edu>, alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes...
>In article <1993Jan24.224107.45260@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> hm00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (HOWARD JAY MILLER) writes:
>>I admit that the NFC is the superior conference and John Madden's voting does
>>have a lot to do with who he sees each year (CBS does NFC), but why is the AFC
>>so poorly represented?  We are not that lame!  Or are we?
>>
>>Howard
>>
>>I'm a praying for an AFC victory in the Superbowl!
>>-- 
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Howard J. Miller            :Home: (215) 866-8762: Work: (215) 758-4740
>>hm00@ns1.cc.Lehigh.edu      :Graduate Assistant-Residential Services
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>As you may, or may not, know, one of the stipulations to make the All-Madden
>team is that Pat Summerall and John Madden have to have covered one of that
>team's games during the course of the season.  Since Madden and Summerall work
>for CBS, and CBS covers primarily NFC teams, the NFC dominates the All-Madden
>team.  Madden and Summerall only covered the Bills, Chiefs, and Oilers for AFC
>teams this year, and only when they faced NFC opponants.
> 

Madden never covered a BIlls game this year.
The all Madden team ought to be called the ALL LOSER's TEAM.
Most the guys he picks are from teams that aren't going to the
Superbowl.  I think he does this so CBS can get some people to
watch since their network is in 3 rd place.  Madden picks these
guys just so its like a consolation prize for not going to the
Superbowl.  Madden is such a hypocrit, he doesn't pick any Bills
two years ago, then last year he picks some Bills even though
he never saw a Bills regular season game.  The only reason he
did this was because CBS was doing the Superbowl.  He didn't pick
any Bills this year, and it showed what a piece of trash this guy
is.

Bruce, a Bills fan

>Joel Alvstad
>Purple and gold flows through my veins.
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Johnny Holland
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:20:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1993Jan26.142050.451@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud) writes...

>Is Johnny Holland a free agent this year and if so does it look like he'll stay
>in GB?

Johnny Holland had surgery to fuse 2 of the vertebre (sp) in his neck. 
This is potentially career ending but at this point he is expected to 
return in 6-8 months.

I doubt that any other team would sign him under the circumstances.

>I have bad memories of how bad the defense was without him.

Holland is one of the best players the Packers have on defense but 
he's no Junior Seau.

JGH
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cfalls@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Craig Falls)
Subject: Stats, Info and News
Organization: Griffith University.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:14:44 GMT


	Could someone please post (or mail) me the regular season
	statistics for :-

		Quarterbacks, Runningbacks, Recivers, Total Offense,
		Total Defense, Sacks, Interceptions, Kick-off and 
		Punting stats.

		Any player new, movements and coaching changes would be 
		great to.

	That would be great because living in Australia and both watching
	and playing American Football is tough, most of the magazines
	(sporting) which cover N.F.L and College Football don't arrive here
	on time but three months late. Which is annoying, in addition we
	only get to see one of the games played each week plus highlights
	of the others.

	If somebody could post the requested stats I would be eternally 
	grateful . 

			 	- Fallz.

 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: Patriots News
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:16:59 GMT

In article <C1FMDy.Ku8@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
>Subject: Re: Patriots News
>Date: 25 Jan 93 22:56:16 GMT
>In article <1993Jan25.192646.21867@asl.dl.nec.com>
>doan@aslslc07.asl.dl.nec.com (Duc Doan) writes:
>
>> Three years ago the Cowboys DID NOT HAVE PERSONNEL to do anything! But lookt
>> at them now. I think it is about time the Giants stop dreaming about Parcell's
>> team and start building a SUPERBOWL team. This is easier said than done but
>> trading away some veteran players from the defense to get some good offense
>> draft picks is the only way out for the Giants.
>
>Nice thought...but until George Young gets his head out of his butt,
>it's not likely to happen.  He totally screwed up the organization by
>trying to figure out how he could once again field a Parcell's-like
>team.  It appears he thought by keeping the team intact with aging
>players and low draft picks (I think the Giants haven't aquired a
>player through trades in two years??)

1989 was the last time we traded.

> and by elevating one of Bill's
>assistants (Handley) that things would continue to be rosey. We've all
>been hard on Handley (well, he did make a lot of bone head calls this
>year;-)), but Young didn't give him anything to work with.  No wonder
>Parcells hit the highway.  Sure Dallas did an incredible job of
>building a team...with Young at GM, this won't happen in New York. 

As much as I agree with Geo Young having his head up is *ss, wasnt 
he the one who got us LT, Simms, Meggett, Hampton, Bunch.  I wouldnt exactly 
call these bone headed moves... 

The key for Dallas was the trades.  I think GeoYoung needs a wakeup call. 
The Giants and NE need to take advantage of the free agency, Parsells will 
definately be taking good care of NE this year.  

>Unless Reeves somehow gets more control over the team than what
>Parcells had, which is unlikely, Dan will be in the same boat as
>Handley.  

I've been getting the impression from other Denver fans that Reeves 
weak point is GETTING the right personnel. And he had a good amount of 
control at Denver.  For instance, where is Denvers O-Line?  How many times 
did Elway go down this year.  A good QB isnt worth anything if he doesnt 
have a few seconds to get rid of the ball...

>If Dan Reeves can't manage to pull off a Parcells-like
>miracle, than I hope it will be obvious to all where the problem lies. 
>But after all...most of us Giants fans have known what the problem has
>been all along...it really shows how great of a coach Bill Parcells was
>with the Giants.  NE fans have alot to happy about!
>

Parsells is a MASTER coach, and one hell of a motivator.   Good Luck to NE
I'm sure things are going to start looking good for them in the near future.

Adriene (Go Giants)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan)
Subject: Re: J. Unitus
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:44:26 GMT

mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY) writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.184617.8738@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, greg_ridsdale@ausqm1.sp
>s.mot.com (Greg Ridsdale) writes:
>>Help me settle a bet.  What years did J. Unitus' career span.
>>
>I think '56-'71. I know whe he lost SBIII he was getting old, and retired soon
>afterwards.
>-- 


He also played for the Colts in 1972, and for the Chargers in 1973 -
he was Fouts' backup.  He did not play very well with them, and retired.

-- 
Gary Blickhan --Go Bills!!!   Before Bo Jackson, there was the one and only
Stormin' GORMAN THOMAS!  He played baseball, football, basketball, track,
bowling, billiards, golf, and then some.  (not all professionally, of course.)
He didn't endorse a company because he'd have to wear all those shoes at once!.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Hmmm...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:24:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.182813.62326@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>Hmmm...  SF ended the season at 15-3.  Buffalo is currently at 14-5.  
>Nope, don't see your three games better.  
Oh, you count the playoffs? What about SF 14-2, Buffalo 11-5?

>Also, Buffalo is in the SuperBowl while SF is at home.  Again, nope, 
> don't see it...
Buffalo in the SB while SF is at home still doesn't deny the fact of
14-2 vs 11-5.

>Can't win the SuperBowl if you don't make it...
One team still can't win the SB even if it makes it.

>Well, at least for one NFC team, it was obviously not their goal:-)
>Can't win the SuperBowl unless you are in the SuperBowl.  
So SF can't win the SB. Has Buffalo achieved their goal yet? as far as the
ultimate playoff goal is concerned, NOPE!

>Perhaps that was
>what did the 49ers in, they were looking to far ahead and, like  you, thought
>that since they had the best regular season record, they were the automatic
>champs...  
Putting words in my mouth again?

>>This only tells us that they are worse than Dallas. That's not yet
>>evidence that they are worse than Buffalo.
>
>But why???  One game is still one game...  
Right, one game is only one game. A team's season is not evaluated based
on one regular season game.

>If SF had beat Buffalo, they might
>not have even been in the playoffs.  If Dallas winning proves that they
>are better, than, by the same logic, Buffalo winning proves they were better
>as well.
But Dallas wins when the NFC championship is at stake, winner take all.
Buffalo wins only when 1/16 of a regular season is at stake, nothing more. 

>But ultimately, we do know that SF was just not good enough to even get the 
>chance...
The ultimate playoff goal is not "just to get the chance". Well, to Kelly
and Marino, maybe it is.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: jpr1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James P. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: The Superbowl and Domestic Violence
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:16:08 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Forwarded message:
>From POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU!JRYCENGA Wed Jan 20 11:52:44 1993

For political activists, or media watchdogs, or just concerned
women, here's a quick something you can do to help prevent
and stop domestic violence.

Super Bowl Sunday - which this year is January 31, here in southern
California at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena - is the single worst day
for domestic violence in the USA.  There is an increase of as much as
40% in the volume handled by domestic violence shelters on this day.

To try to stem this tide of violence, the Women's Action Coalition (WAC)
of Los Angeles is supporting the campaign by Fairness and Accuracy in
Reporting (FAIR) to convince NBC (the network carrying the game) to carry
two Public Service Announcements on domestic violence during the
Super Bowl this year.  Anna Quindlen of the New York Times wrote a
fine editorial in the 1/17/93 edition of the Times supporting this
effort as well.

What I am asking of you - and all your friends (please PLEASE cross-post
this to _any_ lists you can think of) - is to help us with a FAX/LETTER
blitz on NBC, asking for these PSA's.  Here is a sample letter:

Dick Ebersol
President, NBC Sports
NBC
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112

Dear Mr. Ebersol:

I would like to add my support to FAIR's request that you air two Public
Service Announcements on domestic violence during the Super Bowl game.  The
Super Bowl is one of the most widely viewed television events of the year; it
is also the day, according to women's shelters, when calls for help increase
by as much as 40%.

Your broadcast of the Super Bowl will reach a huge audience.  By airing PSAs,
NBC will be bringing a national audience's attention to the critical issue of
domestic violence.

Sincerely,

------------------------------------------------------------------------
------- End of Forwarded Message



-- 
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     Lehigh University Materials Science Rules          jreynolds@igc.org