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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: 11001001
Date: 21 Nov 92 05:19:00 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Nov18.170246.23119@unislc.uucp> dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright) writes:
<OK so my local station has begun broadcasting reruns of TNG weeknights at
<11:05pm starting with "Encounter at Farpoint" and proceeding with the first
<season episodes (though they are not quite getting the order right).
<
<Last night I saw 11001001 for the first time, and I am missing something.
<Clue me in, OK?
<
<After hearing from Data that the magic filename would likely be a familiar
<name or place, and might be in binary, Picard regards the four Binos (sp?)
<lying apparently dead in an ordered pile, and says, "Would they make it
<that simple?  Let's try it".  Then Riker keys something in, the screen says
<"Searching", and a file by the name of 11001001 is found.
<
<At first I thought Picard got it from the pattern the Binos had arranged
<their bodies in, but I couldn't get 11001001 from that.
<
<In base 8 it is 311, in base 10 is 201, and in hex is C9.  I can't
<get anything from these.

The answer has been looking you right in the face the whole time.  The four
are named: 11, 00, 10 and 01.
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Subject: Re: "TNG" on Joan Rivers
From: Jeffrey S. Payne <JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:33:11 EST
Organization: Penn State University


In article <1992Nov17.175928.13564@panix.com>, jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau)
says:

>The appearance of the cast (sans LeVar, who they said had to work that
>day) on Joan Rivers was fun.  No news I haven't seen here before.  I

Major bummer...I am slightly dissappointed by how many of the actors
on the show are not "fans"...From one of the FAQ's, Frakes seems to be
the only one really dedicated to the show.

>recommend finding someone with a tape if you didn't see it - everyone
>was charming and funny.

Quite funny...except that there was considerably more commercials than
content on the show...they would start a conversation and break for
commercial.

>I noticed one thing I had not seen before.  During some of the
>"bumpers" between the show and commercials, they showed a freeze frame
>of the Big-E and scrolled by a Star Trek "factoid" (a la CNN): Did you
>know... .  One them said: "Did you know that Whoopi Goldberg begged to
>have a role on "TNG"?"  It went on about how she was inspired by Uhura
>on the original series.

>What I found most interesting about this was that they used the
>abbreviation "TNG".  It was the first time I can remember seeing this
>abbreviation outside of the net.  Comments?
>--
>Jonathan Blau        jsblau@panix.com      cmcl2!panix!jsblau

Well, I am new to the net, and I have been using TNG for a long time.  Just
easier to type / say.

What scared me was the bit about how "Eugene Wesley Roddenberry" patterened
Wesley Crusher after Himself....*shudder*


Jeff Payne
Penn State Ogontz Campus              |Bitnet:   JSP6@PSUVM
Computer Assisted Learning Center     |Internet: payne@toto.oz.psu.edu
"What else have you done? Telekinesis? Teleportation? Spontaneous
 combustion of someone you don't like? That sort of thing..."
       -Q to Amanda in "True Q", ST-TNG
From: davidl@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Re: Help!
In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:58:14 +0000.
             <1992Nov18.165814.11790@wam.umd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:49:18 GMT

John,


		The company that has this AND OTHER star trek stuff (t-shirts,
		phasers, tricorders, and still more t-shirts, and etc.) is:


			Main Street Collectables
			P.O. Box 750
			Nanuet, New York, 10954
			(914) 352-6765

		-Ask for Pamela...to get to a FREE catalog and let her know
		where you got this from, and she will treat you real nicely.
		If not, just let them know that you got this info. from
		USENET, and they just might treat you 'specially.'
From: flaufer@flc.rni.sub.org (Felix Laufer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Place in LA where to buy Trek Morabilia ?
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:18:51 GMT
Organization: Felix Laufer Chemistries

Hello !

I just wanted to order some pins at a German mail order house as I
recognized the prices.

Waaaaaaaa.

Then I remembered a cousin in LA. I asked her to mail them to me, but she 
didn't know where to buy them in LA.

Does anyone know any stores, shops, etc. in LA that sell such things like
pins, plastic kits, plates, special coins, posters, etc. ?

Does anyone know my cousin ?

Claudia Laufer :-) A nice girl.


Please eMail.

Thanx.

Felix


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From: mbutts@mbutts.mentorg.com (Mike Butts)
Subject: Need club contact
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:15:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

Would someone please let me know how to contact the Star Trek club or
clubs in the Portland, Oregon, area?  Please email to mbutts@qcktrn.com
Our whole family loves all ST.  Thanks!

By the way, we attended the Brent Spiner Creation con at LAX and he was
very friendly, witty and entertaining.
-- 
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Quickturn Systems, Inc., Mentor Graphics Campus,        voice: 503-685-1302
8005 SW Boeckman Road, Wilsonville, Oregon 97070-7777     fax: 503-685-7987
My opinions are my own, and aren't necessarily shared by Quickturn Systems.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: ST:DS9 Start Date
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:40:37 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout



I got some mail today with the start date of ST:DS9.....week of 1/4/93

Weekly episodes will start week of 1/18/93.

Get those video decks ready!!!!!
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From: pettypi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Carl Pettypiece)
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: The Quality of Life
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:22:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.054008.26225@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>In article <Bxx12D.FtB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley) writes:
>>You're complaining that he keeps his cool and doesn't panic? I'd say that
>>would make a GREAT Chief Engineer.
>>
[stuff deleted]
>  Sure, it's possible to be effective and efficient, but I have great dif-
>  ficulty accepting this sort of detached behaviour from a human (especially
>  given the portrayal of Geordi in the first four seasons).  Data, yes.
>  Geordi, nope.
>
>  This is all IMHO, of course, but that's how I see Geordi's character (from
>  the fifth and sixth seasons, anyway):  thin and unrealistic.  Your mileage 
>  will vary.

I have some pretty amazing video of test pilot reactions of
aircraft accidents.  Cockpit voices and interviews 2 hours
afterwards.  I'd be skeptical, too, if I hadn't seen these
videos.  And I'd imagine that some (if not most) of Star Fleet's
finest would have similar personalities.  Some people take the
possibility of death with a great deal of professionalism.
-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl Pettypiece (pettypi@gaul.csd.uwo.ca)        Disclaimer:  Hell, I don't
Department of Computer Science                   even know if these are MY
University of Western Ontario                    opinions!
From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Fist full of data's force field question
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:09:26 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: phlan.sw.stratus.com

BIG rationalization ahead!!!!

Also, **SPOILERS** (right, Jeff? :-(  )



In article <Bxpwq0.E7z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>Ok if the only problem with Worf's force lasting forever was the energy
>then why can't the ship's security team rig up a bunch of personal
>fields. Have them automatated to only turn on when fired upon. Let a
>phaser like thing power them. Why not. If Worf can rig it surely a real
>engineer could pull it off. (I'm not trying to be racist against Worf
>so any Klingons out there don't flame me).

I couldn't believe he could build a personal field generator that way
either (combadge as power source?  REPLICATED telegraph parts?).  So
how could this in fact be?  Well, Worf is in a holodeck, dealing with
holodeck guns and holodeck bullets.  The holodeck space is filled with
various types of generated fields.  I suggest that Worf's device tapped
into existing holodeck fields and had them disperse the holodeck bullets.
A major part of this may have been "convincing" the holodeck computer
to let an out-of-context improvisation stand.

Yeah, don't bother to flame me, I know it's weak, but I don't like to
simply whine about an inconsistency, I'd rather try to find a way to
resolve it; can anyone say CHALLENGE?  I'm sure you can!

Apart from this small nit, I enjoyed this episode thoroughly.  It was
every bit as corny as it needed to be to affectionately poke fun at
the oat opera cliches.


** Mount soapbox ***

Also, at the risk of harming my credibility, I thought Cost of Living
was also a good episode.  The sideplot of the "bacteria" was lame, and
clashed with the light-hearted tone of the Lwaxana-Alexander main plot,
but I greatly enjoyed their little rebellions from conformity, and
the common ground they shared.  If you must have an archetype Bad
Episode, then how about Symbiosis from Season 1 - that was a plodding,
preachy, heavy-handed morality play about a topic that hardly needs
to make its point.  Drugs and drug dependency are a dead end route;
if you don't already know that, one more ham-handed sermon won't
convince you.

** Descend from soapbox ***

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                           |  that doon with."
From: x91anderso33@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Emporer from "Jedi" on ST:TNG?
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:55:24 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

A friend of mine and I were having a heated argument over the weekend, and we
need an answer: Who is the guy who played the baseball-loving scientist in
third season's "Evolution?" 

My friend (who is the biggest Star Wars fan in the universe) swears on his life
that it's the same guy who played the Emporer in Return of the Jedi. I told him
that he must have gotten hit with stun a few too many times, because the
scientist in "Evolution" was simply too big and he didn't have any kind of
accent at all!

I hope someone can help us out! Either answer by post here or E-Mail me
directly, but I hope I'm right so I can rub his face in it!

Karl Anderson, Western Michigan University


Join the "Alexander Needs a Serious Beating Fan Club" today!
From: slovick@Apple.COM (Linda Slovick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: How fast is Scotty's loaner shuttle?
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:04:08 GMT
Organization: Slovick Engineering

I figure that Scotty will soup it up, but how fast is the shuttle the
Big-E loaned him?  Does it have warp capability?  Just curious.

Linda Slovick
slovick@apple.com       "and proto-humanoids might fly out my gluteal fold!"
From: emarkp@soda.berkeley.edu (E. Mark Ping)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "The Universe of MOTION" For Scripts
Date: 21 Nov 1992 00:06:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov19.193128.26112@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> wilson@glitch.cs.jhu.edu (Dwight Wilson) writes:
}In article <1992Nov17.172514.2405@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
}>
}>
}>     The principles of Astronomy and Astrophysics described in this book should
}>be incorporated into Star Trek scripts:          
}>          
}>          
}>          
}>          "THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION", by Dewey B. Larson, 1984, North 
}>          Pacific Publishers, Portland, Oregon, 456 pages, indexed, 
}>          hardcover. 
}>          
}>
}>               "THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION" contains FINAL SOLUTIONS to 
}>          most ALL astrophysical mysteries. 
}>          
}>               This book is Volume III of a revised and enlarged 
}>          edition of "THE STRUCTURE OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE", 1959.  
}>          Volume I is "NOTHING BUT MOTION" (1979), and Volume II is 
}>          "THE BASIC PROPERTIES OF MATTER" (1988). 
}>          
}>               Most books and journal articles on the subject of 
}>          astrophysics are bristling with integrals, partial 
}>          differentials, and other FANCY MATHEMATICS.  In this book, by 
}>          contrast, mathematics is conspicuous by its absence, except 
}>          for some relatively simple formulas imbedded in the text.  
}>          Larson emphasizes CONCEPTS and declares that mathematical 
}>          agreement with a theory does NOT guarantee its conceptual 
}>          validity. 
}[and on and ON]
}
}Yes, I would agree that a SCIENCE FICTION script is the BEST
}possible PLACE for this sort of THING.
}
}BTW, I saved the NUMEROUS programs posted to sci.skeptic for
}random CAPITALIZATION of words that appeared shortly AFTER
}similar posts there.  You TOO can easily PRODUCE articles
}of this CALIBER.
}
}-Dwight

  This loony is rampant on sci.physics.  He repeatedly posts the same things
over and over again (especially with respect to the Larson stuff), and won't
get off the newsgroup.

  Best advice:  ignore him or put him in your kill file.

------------
E. Mark Ping
emarkp@soda.Berkeley.EDU

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  "Say, that's a nice bike."          --Cyberdyne Systems T-1000
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From: ogoh@fraser.sfu.ca (Oon Goh)
Subject: Re: Fistful o' Datas Comments (Spoilers)
Keywords: good and bad parts
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:55:35 GMT

jpw@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) writes:



>***SPOILERS)***










>If the datas on the holodeck had the speed and accuracy of the real data
>(shuffling the cards), then how could Worf, who couldn't hit a ferengi
>with a phaser shoot the gun out of data's hand?


>I know, I know, it's all in fun... but come on...

	Worf didn't intend to shoot the gun out of Frank Hollander's
hand. He was aiming for the heart. Worf is a bad shot, or didn't you people
know that (It's a Starfleet requirement - peaceful exploratory missions do
not need sharpshooters)      :) 
	Or maybe, Worf had tried to shoot the phaser out of the Ferengi's
hand the last time, missed, and now realised that he would do better trying
to aim for the heart --- and accidentally shot the gun out of Hollander's
hand. Then, Worf (being Worf) just played it cool, like that was what he 
intended all along.
	Or maybe Data saw the bullet coming, realized that fast though his
reflexes were, he could not move his body out of the way fast enough,
but could move his hands fast enough to use the gun to deflect the bullet...
	Or maybe ....

					Gabriel.

>-- 
>Joseph P. Wetstein                  __|__          "I may be Captain by
>jpw@coe.drexel.edu              ---o-(_)-o---       rank, but I never wanted
>                                                    to be anything else but 
>  
                                                                          
 
                                                                          
KA3VJY						    an engineer" - Scotty
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From: Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins)
Subject: Cardassians and the 6th Season
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:05:15 GMT

Could someone with any confiming knowledge explain what is going to happen in
Chain Of Command and the proposed Season Finale "Battlefield" (if that wasn't
a joke). I never get to read the BBS so could one of you please e-mail me the
story behind the new episodes revolving around the Cardassians. Thank you.
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Doohan vs Shatner (Who'd win in a fist fight?)
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:06:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <26641@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:

>> He loved to make backhanded
>> remarks against Shatner.  Doohan struck me as a bitter and jealous
>> man.

I'd be bitter too if I was Jimmy Doohan!  Think about this:  he was MUCH
better looking than Shatner in TOS and Shatner got all the women!  Can you
blame him?  Remember that line in "The Undiscovered Country" that Deforest
says: "What is it with you, anyway!?!".  That line wasn't it the script.
It was an adlib!  It was so good, they left it in!  ;-)

>> Doohan seemed like he was favoring US with his acting,
>> and that we should be thanking him for all the money he gets.

Don't blame him too much, I know *I* feel the same way about all of you who
read *my* postings.  :-P

> Sirtis (she chewed a
> guy out for walking out, turns out his beeper had gone off meaning his
> wife was in labor)...

Sheesh!  She should have!  He's obviously not a true TREKKIE!

> My friend in Phoenix saw Patrick Stewart, and was quite enthralled by
> him.  

A friend of mine was in a play the week after "Encounter at Far Point"
aired.  She "ran into" Patrick Stewart in the theatre and recognized him.
He grinned from "ear to ear", or so my friend says, when she said
"Hey, you're in that new Star Trek aren't you"?   He confided in her that he
was afraid that nobody was watching!

> A friend and I stood in line for
> nearly two hours to get an autograph of Nichols (it was our first convention,
> and we were "innocent").  They closed the doors in front us.  Time was
> up, that was it.

Ah, that's just plain wrong!  When ever *I* give autographs, anybody in line
at the end of my signing time still gets an autograph.  Anybody who doesn't
do that is a dirtball in my book.

> Did I mention that Nichelle Nichols singing hurt my ears?  I cringe at
> the memory...

What did she attempt to sing?

Terry "Yes, it's really me, in the flesh!" Wood
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From: rothe@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ted Rothe)
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: The Quality of Life
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:58:39 GMT

odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:


>  "Home Soil" meets "Evolution" with little or no continuity.  I kinda liked
>  watching it, though.  More farther down your screen.
























>  - Yet Another Bumpy Headed Alien!
>  - It was nice to see Geordi as lost by some of the technobabble as we are,
>    even if his beard looks silly.                  
>  - Speaking of the beard:  It was amusing seeing Geordi mimicing some of
>    Riker's mannerisms (particularly the ramrod straight back while raising an
>    eyebrow at Dr Crusher).
I think that Geordi is tired of striking out with women, and is trying
something new!

>  - The return of the double neon-tubed bench thingy, seen in darn near every
>    lab in TNG so far!

>  - And, finally, anyone else think of the little robot in "Jason of Star
>    Command" when they saw the exocomps? ;)
Actually, the first thing that came to my mind was R2-D2.  I was expecting
it to whirl and beep anytime.


-- 
Ted Rothe                                            |Of course, no one agrees
Manager CCSO Computer Site, Everitt Lab              |with what I say.  This
rothe@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                               |includes CCSO.
From: cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Riker Manuver
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:29:44 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov18.205307.1@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu>, f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
writes:

>I thought the Riker Manuver was a quick (warp speed) way to get a member of
>the opposite sex horizontal!!!

Which always seems to work best on nonhuman females.  Has Riker ever mated
within his species?


>
>Richard.
>  (__)   Richard J Appleyard  f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
>  (oo)   Washington State University
> ( \/ )  Voice (509) 335-7728  Fax (509) 335-9688
>  \__/   "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
>
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "The Universe of MOTION" For Scripts
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:27:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.92Nov18102709
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores

Robert E. McElwaine blithers:

>     The principles of Astronomy and Astrophysics described in
>this book should be incorporated into Star Trek scripts:

>               "THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION" contains FINAL SOLUTIONS to 
>          most ALL astrophysical mysteries. 

[long diatribe on "Everything you know about physics is wrong,
even most of the experimentally verified stuff" deleted]

Hmm, better that ST:TNG have _consistent_ pseudo-science than
_inconsistent_ pseudo-science?

Frankly, I get pretty nervous about any book review where
one-quarter of the words are ALL-CAPS for no discernible reason.

As for a script idea . . . hmm, well, perhaps it could be an
elaborate holodeck fantasy by a renowned Federation physicist who
has developed transporter psychosis?  The Enterprise computer
could get so confused by the disagreement between reality and the
physicist's fantasy that it threatens to shut down, forcing the
crew to storm the holodeck in order to save the ship.  The
physicist, of course, will have to shout randomly-selected parts
of his sentences for no discernible reason.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: S096216@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Query of Romulan/Kilingon Episodes
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:08:52 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

I am looking for information on future Romulan and Klingon heavy
episodes of ST:TNG.  You can EMAIL info to me or put it on the news.
Walter T. Stephens  Grad student in Ceramic Engineering
at the University of Missouri-Rolla.  EMAIL = S096216@UMRVMA.umr.edu
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From: rrheaume@emr1.emr.ca (Roberta Rheaume (CPB))
Subject: ST:DSN Ottawa? Anyone know
Organization: CPCS, Energy Mines & Resources, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:08:50 GMT

Does anyone have any information on a channel in Ottawa, Ontario that will 
be picking up DSN?  Any info on Babylon 5?

Thanks,

Roberta Rheaume
rrheaume@emr1.emr.ca
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