HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Install stuck on Disk 2, any clues?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:48:22 GMT

In article <BtyFFr.4E0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> freeman@eagle (Jay Freeman) writes:
>Hello all, I'm trying to install OS/2 2.0 on a new machine here at work.
>It's a clone mothrboard, with AMD bios, and an AMD 40 MHz processor. The
>installation starts normally, with the exception of mangled text at the
>bottom of the initial blue screen. I get as far as fdisk, where I can 
>partition, set up boot manager etc. When I've finished that, I get prompted 
>for Disk 2, Hit Enter. When the enter key is pressed, the machine beeps, the
>disk light comes on for about 2 seconds, and I'm back at the same prompt.
>This can be repeated indefinitely. Anybody have a fix or a workaround for
>this?

It sounds like the disk change line on your disk drive is not working
correctly.  Often a jumper or DIP switch on the drive itself will
allow/disallow disk change -- check this setting.

You might want to check with the helpful people in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware for details.

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From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Difference between DOS upgrade and full version
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:07:08 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

Chris Chew <CCHEW@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:

>The upgrade installation WILL work on an MS-DOS system. I'm sure of this
Yes it will

>checks for DOS or OS/2, then proceeds to write a 0 byte RUP.RUP file on
>disk 1 ( 2nd of 21 disks for 3.5 inch version ). Once this file is present,
>or you can write it yourself, further installations will proceed without
>checking, and the upgrade package is now identical to the standard version.

>Incidentally, Disk 1 is also the ONLY disk in the package that is not
>permanently write-protected.
Well on mine disk 0 ( the Installatiuon disk) was the only one not write
protected ( 51/4" disks). So I copied disk 1, and compared with the
original after the installation. RUP.RUP
From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 v2.0 & S3 Card
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:13:59 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug31.094340.13481@actrix.gen.nz>, Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> In article <1992Aug30.161951.16650@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ba014@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew C. Brinkhoff) writes:
>> 
>> Are there any Seamless SVGA drivers for S3 cards out yet?
> 
> The makers of S3 cards seem disinclined to do so. Tell them you want them -
> and you might get them.
>  

The agents for the Matrox series of cards (S3 based) seem convinced that they
have a fax saying the S3 drivers should be out any day now. 
Sorry I can't remember their name. Was it Hewlett Rand? in Auckland anyway.
Perhaps if somebody rang Matrox in canada, they could ask them? They keep
saying RSN too.


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From: jc70@westend.VI.CMU.EDU (Joo C. Chung)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 32bit graphics engine, etc...
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:28:08 GMT
Reply-To: jc70@norman.vi.ri.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Aug24.094700.21837@actrix.gen.nz>  
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> In article <dave.714627745@stat.tamu.edu> dave@stat.tamu.edu (Dave Perry)  
writes:
> > Does anyone know about the new drivers?  What kind of release date
> > are we looking at?  It would be nice to know when I will be able to
> > take advantage of my video card... :)  Hurry!
> >  
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > "...and everything under the sun." | Your message | dave@stat.tamu.edu
> >                             -pf    |    here!     |  
dperry@lonestar.utsa.edu
> >  
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> The XGA and VGA 32-bit GRE's will be released in the next 4-8 weeks. The SVGA
> version will follow soon after, with the 8514/a bringing up the rear. This
> last will be around the end of the year - or just after the beginning of '93.
>  
[some unnecessary stuff]
> One did point out that the existing 16-bit GRE is written in assembler, while
> the new ones are written in C.....so the speed improvement isn't as great as
> you might expect it to be if the 32-bit version was written in assembler.
>  
> They said it was clearly faster and would be an improvment.
> 
> Steve
[long sig]


I heard from a friend that worked at Boca this summer that the 32bit GRE was  
sluggish and slower than the 16bit GRE.



Joo.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: deg@techunix.technion.ac.il (David Goldfarb)
Subject: NEC-84 CD-ROM with OS/2 2.0
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:08:18 GMT

I recently installed a NEC-84 CD-ROM drive on my machine, along with
the NEC SCSI controller that comes with it by default.  For what it's
worth, I think that the controller is a repackaged Trantor T128.

OS/2 does not seem to recongnize the existence of this controller.  I
tried the hack, mentioned in this newsgroup, of editing "TOSHIBA" to
read "NEC " in CDROM.SYS, but to no avail.

So, my question is: has anyone managed to make this controller work
with OS/2 2.0.  Failing that, what is the cheapest SCSI controller I
can buy that does work with OS/2 2.0 and the NEC-84.  (I'm hesitant
about spending too much money on a SCSI controller before the market
sorts itself out).

Thanks,
David
From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Icons (Was: Re: Some suggestions for OS/2)
Keywords: icons
Date: 3 Sep 92 07:52:07 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

In article <1992Sep3.021506.16434@midway.uchicago.edu>,
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>>5.25" disk drives should have 5.25" disks as icons (NOT 3.5" ones)
>
>I think someone figured out how to change the icon, but I don't
>remember the details.  Does anyone recall where that information is
>located?

>>a basic collection of icons (including those that are used by the system)
>>for OS/2 and DOS programs and functions

On the General (?) page of an object's settings notebook
you can change it's icon. You can edit the current icon,
use a different icon (from an icon file), and you have a third option
which I currently don't remember (I think to use the default one).

When you select to edit the icon, the WPS creates a temporary icon file
which is opened by the Icon Editor. You can then save the icon
under a different file name (when the Icon Editor is closed,
the WPS uses the temporary file for the new icon).

This way you can make a copy of each system icon in a separate file,
as well as using the clipboard to cut 'n' paste
into another Icon Editor window.

I hope this helps.

Best wishes,

Horst

PS: Returning to the subject of the disk icons...
    I have made (and am using) three icons instead of the default ones.
    I slightly changed the 3.5" diskette icon
    and made a new 5.25" diskette icon, and I have a workplace folder icon
    (which I use in a workplace folder template).
    (The latter shows the default folder with a pen on it.)
    When I discovered that the "small" instances of an icon
    (usually several instances exist, with the object as well as in a file)
    determine the appearance of the upper left button of a window,
    I changed all instances of my icons accordingly.
    (The icon of an object's template
    uses one of the small instances of the object's icon, too.)
    I'm telling this because
    I'm thinking of uploading these icons to ftp-os2
    because this might save other people a lot of work.
From: bill.dehaan@canrem.com (bill dehaan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: csd dates
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:50:58 GMT
Reply-To: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Stephen Dawson writes:

RR>They have always said late '92 to early '93 and they still are.  They also
RR>indicate that it is still on schedule (unlike a certain CSD that I now
RR>hear from IBM staff is pushed forward - again - to October).

SD>Microsoft has been quoted in PC Week as stating emphatically that NT
SD>will go gold in '92.

SD>As for the OS/2 CSD, I have all the fixes already, downloaded
SD>directly from IBM's BBS in Toronto.

That's  not  what  the  CSD  is,  though.  Or  are  you  saying that you
downloaded the 32 bit graphics engine and the Win31 support?

As for the date  of the rumoured CSD,  our IBM reps have  "repositioned"
their previous statements.  We are now  told that late  November is more
likely.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: how use >1024 Zyl. HD
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:34:01 GMT

Eric Schroedter (schroedter.pad@sni.de) wrote:
> how can I use more than 1024 Zylinder.        
> My Harddisk: Microsience HH1060 1314 Zyl .
> For Dos use is Ontrack Diskmanager available.
> But on a Ontrack READ/WRITE partion 0-1314 Zyl. (80MB)
> OS2 2.0 installation stopped with Fdisk-Error

You can't! There is an inherent limitation in the PC that limits you to
1024 cylinders (I think it's in the BIOS). These large disks are usually
IDE drives (maybe SCSI too, haven't had much to do with them) and can usually
be configured using different configurations of Heads/Cylinders/Sectors. In
fact I have been told by some manufacturers to use settings that are
different to the physical layout of the disk because performance will be
better. The drive automatically detects this and translates all your drive
references for you.

Either contact Microscience or a local Hard drive retailer or repairer
(repair places are usually very willing to give info) and ask for
alternative configurations for you drive. You might also want to try one of
the hardware newgroups.

-- 
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From: bjorn@ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PMCOMM!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:13:08 GMT
Organization: Lule} H|gskolas datorf|rening ( Ludd )

In <1992Aug28.203321.17560@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>I looked over TE/2 - it's a pain to configure and use.  Ideally, I'd
>like something as simple as Procomm Plus (actually, I want DataStorm
>to get off their duffs and write PCPLUS/2...).

So write (call, fax) to DataStorm and ask them to write it. I did. While
they didn't seem overly enthusiastic, they didn't turn it down either (like
some companies seem to do). Let them know they can make money on such
a product, and I'm sure they'll create one.
   _
/Bjorn.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber)
Subject: Re: HELP: Where OS/2 2.0 CSD?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:07:08 GMT

Ok.  With all this talk about the CSD I would like to know:

Is this something I have to call IBM about and get or will
this be one of those files on hobbes I could grab.  

Or even worse.  Will it cost $$$$. 


Any rumors (yes I'm asking for rumors and I know that they won't
be facts.  :)   )  about what will be included in the CSD besides
the 32-bit graphis engine and win 3.1 support.

Byron Faber
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.multimedia
From: singhal@newton.cs.jhu.edu (Sandeep K. Singhal)
Subject: Re: Live video or video capture in window available?
Summary: PS/2 TV
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:08:01 GMT

In article <BtvDHG.Cyt@well.sf.ca.us> shiva@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth Porter) writes:
>What hardware/software is available for displaying video in a window and
>capturing frames?  Is anyone providing OS/2 support for this yet?  Does
>anyone plan such support?

You might look into IBM's PS/2 TV product.  I believe it requires an
M-Motion card, but it basically just pipes video directly into a window.

>... occasionally a frame needs to be grabbed for analyzing
>defective parts.

I know the M-Motion card supports still frame grabbing

-Sandeep

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers)
Subject: Disk Performance Questions
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 10:22:24 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, Tilburg, The Netherlands

After using OS/2 for a few weeks, and playing around with the settings
in CONFIG.SYS, I'm bothered by some disk issues.

Long ago, while using plain DOS, I used 2 MB of disk cache using the
Windows 3.1 version of SMARTDRV.EXE. This speeded up my 100 MB IDE disk
to close to infinity. I loved it.

(Interludium: 486DX/33/256, 8MB, 100MB IDE, ET4000/1MB, 120MB tape, and
some other toys)

When I switched over to OS/2 (will never switch back BTW) I first
installed only a FAT system so I could easily flip back to DOS
(games...). The default disk cache in CONFIG.SYS was 512 KB. I thought
it was a bit small, but with only 8 MB RAM to spare I believed OS/2 needed
the rest for itself. Lazy writes have always be ON.

Performance was a bit dissapointing. The disk really did a lot, and 
clearly had to work factors harder than under DOS. I know perfectly well
that OS/2 uses more small files instead of few larger ones, and swaps
memory out to disk if necessary, but this was not what I expected.

So I increased the disk cache to 2 MB, which I got used to under DOS.
This improved the performance noticeably, but I still do not get the old
DOS performance. I am only talking about disk access now. 

As an experiment, I increased cache up to 4 MB but then OS/2 performance
dropped severely :-) so I got back to 2 MB cache.

I defragment FAT disks every week, so this is not an issue.


Questions:

1 What is the typical cache setting for a FAT drive when you have 8 MB
  physical RAM?

2 Will conversion to HPFS significantly increase raw performance? I know
  about less fragmentation etc. but will I *feel* the difference?

3 It seems to me that OS/2 is just doing more than DOS, e.g. keeping
  EA's and peeking all files while you open up a folder etc. This means
  that raw disk performance will ever be less than DOS. Am I correct?

4 Is there a way to treat off disk space for speed, such as the (mmm) 
  Windows Program Manager does, e.g. swallowing all icons instead of
  reading them from disk every time? Should there be such a way?

5 Should I look to FAT disks under OS/2 as just a downward compatibility
  tool or as a serious alternative to HPFS?


Regards,

Jeroen
From: laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 MPC compatibility?
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:05:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

A person I work with uses Cakewalk (Pro?) under Windows.  The
documentation mentions that it has been used extensively under
OS/2 (probably for development) without problems.

I was quite impressed to find this.

--kyler
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier)
Subject: Re: IBM Awards OS/2 Gold Ambassador Honors
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:35:49 CDT

In article <1992Aug26.163652.16031@leland.Stanford.EDU> stidolph@leland.Stanford.EDU (Wayne Stidolph) writes:
>
>I actually *would* like to know!
>
>Related tangentially: Is IBM going to recognize the non-IBM folks who
>have donated long hours to helping others through the first trials of
>using this new (well, mostly :) OS? People like TFS, Kai-Uwe, Bert,...

Wayne:

On behalf of TFS, Kai-Uwe and myself, thank you for recognizing us.

Bert.
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:28728 comp.os.os2.apps:5724 comp.os.os2.advocacy:4775
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 13:45:55 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???

It seems that YOU are living in the stone age to me - didnt you even
tell IBM HOW and WHEN the system crashed when using AMI PRO? (Like every
time I selected print..) hardware and software specifications?

More important: Did you ask this group, or OS2-L@FRORS12.BITNET group
about it? There are many happy users of OS/2 who have _NO_ crashes
that cannot be cured.

IBM's letter sounds "sound" to me -- try it on a different machine. Does it
still crash? I doubt it. I am still forced to use WordForWindows, and I never
had a crash with it. I am considering upgrading to AMI for OS/2.

You will have *more* problems with the initial release of NT, just like
the initial release of every product, including (especially?) Microsoft's.

Regards, -turgut

#include <standard.disclaimer>
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: New os2 crud on software.watson.ibm.com
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



There are some new files on IBM's ftp server including:

a new hpfs patch
a dpmi patch to let msc 7.0 run under os/2
a complete listing of all files in os/2 2.0 with descriptions
From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Help, can't open HD object (DOS)
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:41:30 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

In article <zhao.715106512@unixg.ubc.ca>, zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao) writes:

>However, when
>I tried to open drive C and D (both DOS partitions), the icon-view (or
>tree-view) opened in a flash and closed right away.

Perhaps the extended attributes (EAs) on that drive are inconsistent.
Try CHKDSK on each of the drives affected from a DOS or OS/2 prompt.
This will remove EA inconsistencies
(even without the /F option unless there are lost EAs).

I hope this helps.

Best wishes,

Horst
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu (TOBIN MATTHEW CREEK)
Subject: Re: windows 3.1 support
Originator: tmcreek@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu (TOBIN MATTHEW CREEK)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:20:49 GMT


In article <1992Sep2.1480.26262@dosgate>, roger.ramsey@canrem.com (roger ramsey) writes:
>
>Jay Maynard wrote on 09-01-92 regarding WINDOWS 3.1 SUPPORT:
>
>JM>>In other words: a better Windows than Windows.
>JM>
>JM>...but then, we knew that already.
>
>...to anyone but a real Windows user.
>
>Roj
>

I thought we had ended this a long time ago.  

I use OS/2.  I use WIN-OS/2.  I use DOS 5.  I run PM apps.  

I even run Win 3.1.  

But I post the Windows stuff to the Windows groups and DOS stuff to the DOS
groups and the OS/2 stuff here.  If you say you don't use OS/2, why post to
this group (or read it for that matter)?!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: widow@camelot.bradley.edu (Shaun Burnett)
Subject: Re: Can't delete an icon
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  1 Sep 92 16:39:45 GMT

In <1992Sep1.004539.2101@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:

>I have tried almost everything and this ICON does not want to go away. If I
>move it into a folder and even try and close the folder, the whole system
>hangs. I have just downloaded the os2.ini editor from comp.binaries.os2. I
>have no idea if this will help me, but it may just do. 

	I was trying to create a shadow of an ICON but ended up
	creating a copy.  This copy just did not want to be deleted
	via WPS.  So I went to an OS/2 command shell, changed to the
	appropriate directory, and deleted the subdirectory.


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From: schmiher@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hermann Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Template problem
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:56:15 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Originator: schmiher@hphalle8f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de


In article <1992Aug27.163106.12816@ornl.gov>, rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug21.004153.7098@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
|> >In article <t2#n_4a.bob@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
|> >>I have a problem.  Somehow, and I have no idea how, I find myself
|> >>with multiple Printer, Font Palette, Program, and Scheme Palette
|> >>templates.  I'd like to get rid of the extra ones, but I don't
|> >>know how to do it.  
|> >>
|> >>Can anybody help?
|> >
|> >Couldn't you just drag them to the Shredder?
|> >
|> No.  The Shredder won't chew templates.  You can do it manually in an
|> os/2 window or full screen session.  Opend the session cd to the
|> templates directory and dir.  Then del the extra entries.
|> 
|> 
|> Robert McBroom internet: rm3@ornl.gov

Hm, I'd change the template to a 'normal' object via
the settings and then drag it to the shredder.
Or am I missing something?