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From: 57mamtani@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu
Subject: more info on ASEI
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:13:47 GMT

Hi all,

Since my posting about the ASEI national annual convention, I have got a 
lot of inquires about further info on the association.  To those who 
have asked, and others, here is the person to contact if you have any 
questions, or want to become a member:

Dr Chandrika Prasad
11101 Fruitwood Drive
Bowie, MD 20720

(301) 464-5042   (H)
(703)471-8383    (W)

Arun Mamtani
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: What went wrong?
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:25:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: ennews.1992Aug21.162535.11051
Reply-To: sridhar@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

I am not going to regret writing this article anyway and I am going
to make enemies because of this article and the ensuing action/discussion 
so be it.

This group was intended to discuss literature/language issues right?
The proposers of the group went at great lengths to laugh and
ridicule many of the fears expressed at the outset even before the RFD
went official. What happened, Sirs? 

Infact, I was told in email that I am offending the sensibilities of
those people wanting a language-oriented group. Infact I was not.
After all I knew how soc.culture can turn out to be and having been in
the heart of Madras I know how people react (No offense here, it is
pretty natural whether right or wrong).

What do I propose?

*	Making this group moderated (not by me!) or
*	Moving this group to sci.lang.tamil or a rec.lit.tamil
	(whatever that fits the focus)
	[I don't receive this group etc. is not a valid reason for
	"No" since there are a variety of ways to get a group]
*	All cooking/food stuff goes to rec.food.cooking/veg. 
*	All software discussions goes to comp.fonts or a mailing list.
*	All news items off to misc.news.southasia (if desired). 
*	All reservations etc. to SCI. After all SCT now receives more
	articles than SCI. It is certainly not a problem of 'so many
	articles'.
*	Ofcourse sci.lang can span whatever possible as long it is
	tamil. Take a look at sci.lang.japan or sci.lang.
*	music stuff to rmi.* (if desired)

One final point:

o	"Azha[mn] theriyAmal kalai vidathe" applies equally to Usenet.
	[This I say because a proposer commented "some people posted
	so many articles on news.groups ...". How long have you been
	reading news.groups?]

If there is enough interest, I will go for an RFD. Otherwise there is
always the 'u' key which some have already used.

Cheers,
Sridhar.

PS: Before anyone is going to pounce on me saying that I am heading an
army or whatever, I haven't recd even a single email for rehashing the
proposal. I am doing it on my own accord. Please post if you have got
anything to say on SCT. And please be aware of all postings in
news.announce.newusers. If you are going to reply, please state
whether you want to be anonymous since I will summarise any mail that comes
on this subject to me. But don't even try mailing anonymously even if
you are a sys admin. 

This newsgroup being in a bad state, is it fair enough for a proposer
to take a cheap shot on Alok?

Cheers,
Sridhar.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:1278 soc.culture.indian:28786
From: narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: How official language for India was chosen
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:28:37 GMT
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York

In article <Bt79yo.K0q@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.140253.14889@cs.odu.edu> raj@aelle.cs.odu.edu 
>(M. P. Krishna Raj) writes:
>>
>>that as official language. It barely passed in the voting.
>>The only one extra  vote was cast by the president Rajendra Prasad.
>>Hindi became official just because of that one vote. 
>>
>>Raj
>
>Here is the extract from Manorama Year Book p342, 1981.
>None of the words are mine. So please send flames directly to
>Malayala Manorama Publishing House, P.B. 26, Kottayam 686001, India
>
>"The question was put to vote, and Hindi won on a single vote-the
>casting vote of the President (Dr.Rajendra Prasad)#".
>Note#: Ordinarily when there is a tie between two groups in a meeting
>and the President is called upon to exercise his casting vote, he
>votes for the status quo. Here it was the other way round.
>
>Quoted from Manorama Year Book p 342 1981.

As the chairman of the constituent assembly, Dr. Rajendra Prasad
has every right to vote his conscience! No ordinary precedence
guides such vote, or should it! That Hindi is an official language
only, that too an official language of communication between the
center and the states, is the important constitutional element!

Imposition of Hindi on the southern states has nothing whatsoever
to do with this vote. It has more to do with the ignorance of
the Hindi speaking politicians about the rule of the law, and
about the lack of a historical understanding of how in the
culture of the Aryavarta, language diversity was sustained. It
became a potential issue, when the fascist DMK and the DK used
it to emotionalize the ignorant masses of Tamilnadu.
...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: raj@news.cs.odu.edu (M. P. Krishna Raj)
Subject: Please be Accurate to avoid flame wars.
Originator: raj@aelle.cs.odu.edu
Organization: Old Dominion University Dept. of CS, Norfolk VA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:19:53 GMT


One person came up with  article which says admission
requirement for professional colleges in TN for backward classes
is low as 40% . This is patently false. Many of the readers
of SCT are from Tamil Nadu. They would have read the cut-off
mark analysis in Hindu and Indian Express and remember that
too. There is no use in posting lies.


Another person came up with a article which says PMK is
castiest party. This is also incorrect. Vanniar Sangam
and PMK are different. While political parties 
do not admit everyone, the observation about PMK is incorrect.
(Muslim League,Chiristuva Jananayaga Munnani)   
Please aware that majority of the readers of this group
won't like spreading canards on the net. 

Raj

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Do Tamils have progressive ideas? ( WasRe: I HATE TAMILS)
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:53:58 GMT


 Thiru. Dr. Sreenivasan avarkaLae! nanRaakach soneerkaL
         uNmai aRiyaamal pithaRRum veRiyarkalukku nalla pathil
         nammai karaNamillamal veRukkum pEthaikaLulkku
         nalla paadam pOl ungaL soRkaL ingu viLangukindRana. 
          
>I do not think Tamil Nadu is the casteist state in India.
>The Tamil region which is not part of India, does not suffer from the
>casteism problem. Hence 'casteism' is obviously an Indian legacy. It is
>as much, if not more in some other parts of India. It may not be the
>same castes or their equivalents every where. In some places, they even kill
>each other.
> This is just like other popular, but wrong perceptions, like,
> - population being the cause of all economic problems,
> - Tamils have a stronger affinity to their language than people elsewhere.
>   (incidentally, it is the first to abandon Tamil numbers for Roman numbers.
>    Most others hold on to it still!)
> - They force everybody to learn Tamil. (TN is the only state in which you
>   can finish high school without learning a word of state Language. I know
>   some, who managed with English and French! You can easily do it with
>   English and Hindi).

>K.S

      tamizh anban
      Kathiravan
From: ganapath@plains.NoDak.edu (Prabhukumar Ganapathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: THUGLAK  - Q & A (07/15/92 & 06/01/92 issues)
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:16:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19795
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


	THUGLAK - Kelvi Padhil pagudiylirindhu sila....


	Q : Jayalalitha aatchikku aabathu undagumaa ?
	A : Undaki kollakoodiyavar avar.


	Q : "Than Nadandhu Vandha padhai Mul padahi" engirarae Mudhalvar ?
	A:  Adhu oralavu unmayae. Adhanalthan eppodhu than nadakkum
	padhayil poo thoovapattu malar padhayil nadapadhai vazhakamaga
	kondirukiraar polirukiradhu. Mullum Malarum adhu oru vetriyae
	Anal cinema padam


	Q: M.G.Ri ennum evvalvu kalam makkal ninaivil vaithirupaargal
	A : Yaen edhu patri eppadi kavalai padugireergal ? Neengal enna
	Jayalalithava.


	Q: Therdhalil thotravargal yaen arasiyalai verruthu vilaguvadhillai ?
	A: Oru veetil thiruda munaidha podhu, nagaiyo panamo kidaikadha podhu
	thalai thappiadhu podhum endru thirumba vaendia nilai vandhaal -
	adharkaga andha thirudan athudan thanadhu thiruttu thozhilai vittu
	vidugirana ? Ennum mustheepudan adhutha thiruttu muyarchiyil
	erangukiran. Muyarchi thiruvinai aakkum endra nambikkai vaendama ?


	Q: Namdhu mudhalvaridam ungalai kavarndha amsam yadho ?
	A: "Evvalvu periya adharavu erundhaal enna ? Padavikaalam
	mudivadharkullagavae evar padhavi vilagum vaipugal undu" - endra
	nambikkayai eppadio thotruvikkirarae - andha avraudaya nall
	ennam than, nammai migavum kargiradhu.


	Q: Adutha Janadhipathiyaga Harijan oruvar vara vaendum endru
	jantha thalam varliyurthugiradhae Yaen ?
	A: Avargal aatchi kaalathil niamikkapatta governorkalil
	harijangal ethani paer ? - endra kelviai yarum ketka
	mattargal endru theriyum. Adhanal..


	Q: Jayalalitha amaicharavayil tharpodhu suyamariyadhaiyudan
	erukkum amaichar yaar?
	A: "Enn vazhiyai pinpatra enakku muttalgalthan vendum" - endruthan
	suyamariyadhai eakkathai nadathiya PERIYAR sonnar. Andha vagayil
	"SUYAMARIYADHAI" endru paarungal. Ungal manadhil kurai erukkadhu.


	Q: M.L.A'kalai peruchalikaludan oppiduvadhu sariyaga erukkuma ?
	A: Dharalamaga seyyungal. Peruchaligal urimai pritchani
	ezhuppa povadhu illai.



PK

	PS : Sorry for not using ADAMI. If people like it I can
	post more Q&A from THUGLAK. If you have anything against
	these questions or answers please write to
	Thuglak Office, 5 Bishop Valers Avenue (south)
	C.I.T Colony, Mylapore, Madra 600 004, India.
	But don't write to ganapath@plains.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan)
Subject: Re: VeRuppu... (2) 
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:10:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.183320.5675@ms.uky.edu> aras@ms.uky.edu (P. I. Arasu) writes:
>ravik@wam.umd.edu (Ravi Kuchimanchi) writes on behalf of his
>	mysterious friend L.S:
>
>>WHY TAMILS ARE HATED ? The reason is extreme JINGOISM. (I don't have
>	he thinks his language is superior than others.
>
>     .... <portions deleted> .....
>
>	I personally think it is high time for Tamil to adapt
>	to modern times, for its own sake. But this change is
>	required for not just Tamil but all other Indian 
>	languages. Otherwise there is a real danger for all
>	of them to perish (except Hindi). The only reason
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	English and Hindi are thriving in India today is 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	because they are adaptive. To give an ex. from
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	English: Perestroika and Glasnot are pure Russian
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	words which are now accepted in many English 
>	dictionaries, simply because people used them long
>	enough. Such acceptance is required of all Indian
>	languages if they have to survive. That is why I
>	believe that pencil, rubber ,computer etc are all
>	Tamil words (borrowed from English). If we bother to
>	translate and use them we may be going in the wrong
>	direction.
>	-arasu
I wonder why you singled out Hindi but did not even
give an example to substantiate your claim (of course,
that would still be a "proof by example"!).

-- rst
From: elan@rdg.dec.com (Balendra Elangco)
Subject: Re: Tamil Names - A request
Reply-To: elan@rdg.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:11:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.155817.6642@menudo.uh.edu>, Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable) writes:
|> In article <6844@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> sri@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (SRITHARAN K)  
|> writes:
|> > 
|> > 
|> > One of my friend is interested in giving a short but
|> > meaningful tamil name to his newy born baby boy.
|> > 
|> > Can someone in the SCT netters suggst some meaningful
|> > tamil names and the meantime it can be pronounced by
|> > westerners easily.
|> > 
|> > I believe it will help lot us.
|> > 
|> > 
|> > Sri
|> 
|> Here you go:
|>   Kamban   |
|>   Elango   | - Not meaningful, but tamil
|>   Paari    |

Excuse me! What do you mean my name has no meaning?

elang = young  co (or go) = king

elan+gco = young king = prince.


Ok, I don't feel like one :-), but there is a meaning to the name.
However, it is not easy for westerners to pronounce my name. They struggle
a bit. Lot of them try to call me "elan" and I've resisted it so far.

--------------------
Balendra Elangco			| Internet: elan@rdg.dec.com
Integrated Office System Group (IOSG)	| UUCP:     ...!wessex!elan	
Digital Equipment Corporation		| EASYnet:  hollie::elan
Reading, England.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: nasokan@yoho.uwaterloo.ca (Asokan)
Subject: Re: kaaval theivam
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:40:28 GMT

In article <BstsIB.Ht7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu) writes:
[...]
>To this day, not a single Tamil movie have won any international award, for
>it to be known outside.  Even Sinhalese movies, produced in Sri-lanka
>have done better!!

"*Even* the Sinhalese movies"?  The Sinhala cinema and theatre has
always been far ahead of their Tamil counterparts.  Their first
successes happened in the sixties, roughly in the same era
as "pathar panchali" and "chemmeen".  They have consistently
done good work since then.  Apart from Lester James Peiries,
who is hailed as one of the three great Asian directors.
there are a host of other, younger movie makers and playwrights.

It is not exactly a shame to be trailing the Sinhalese in these
areas.  It would take a *lot* of work to reach their level
of achievement.

[...]
>Meenan Vishnu


Regards,

- Asokan
From: IO92395@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (T.C.A.Venkatesan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: reservation
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:17:48 GMT
 <1992Aug19.230603.11426@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU>
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <1992Aug19.230603.11426@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU>, kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU
(V.R.Kumar) says:
>
>
>                                     Have u visited the villages in
>Tamil Nadu ? There are still a very large number of community who are
>unable to go even to school mate !!. Think about them.
>
>                                                 REservation was formed
>to give opportunities to those who are economically poor. Just because
>some BC guys are doing well in wealth and studies, it does not mean
>that the entire India has changed. Majority are still below poverty
>in India.
>
>Reservation is very much essential for a country like India.
>

   Quite contradictory, I must say! Reservations were made based on
caste-system only, and not on economy. The implicit assumption might
have been that all/almost all BCs are poor. Not valid unless backed
by statistics showing, say, >95% of all BCs are very poor. And, even
if it's true, why is not economy as a criterion extended to all?

   If at all reservation is required, and only for BCs, then the
criteria should be extended to include ecocnomy as well. That is, only
poor BCs should be allowed to use the system. I think that will take
the major weapon out of the opponents. Of course, it's bound to be
unaccepatble to all (with more flame wars :-)), but it will
definitely reduce the strength of the opposition. Reservations based
on caste alone do not make sense - not over several generations.

Cheers,
Venky.


*************************************************************************
 T.C.A. Venkatesan                Bitnet  : IO92395@maine
 Dept. of Physics & Astronomy     Internet: venky@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu
 University of Maine
 Orono, ME 04469                  Phone   : (207) 581-1022

  "dream on 'til your dream comes true"
                                           - Aerosmith
  "the child is grown, the dream is gone"
                                           - Pink Floyd
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 10:27:29 EDT
From: T.C.A.Venkatesan <IO92395@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: EVR - Part II (Atheism)
 <Bt37rv.6zp@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>

In article <Bt37rv.6zp@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m
vishnu) says:
>           Casteism and Fatalistic outlook to life are the
>main causes of failure of India in almost any field (including Olympics
>at Barcelona, where India came out with 0 medals, although it sent one of
>the largest team).  These two ideas are central to the varna-ashrama dharma
>

    Could you please explain this idea of yours that casteism is what
cost India medals in the Olympics? Are you seeing some sort of brahminical
(or any other caste, for that matter) scheme here, to keep talented
sportspersons in India out of their deserved positions?

    I can even see fatalism playing some role in this - although, I
still think that a fatalistic attitude is used more after failing,
rather than when trying to acieve something. But casteism in sports,
in present day ??!!!!


*************************************************************************
 T.C.A. Venkatesan                Bitnet  : IO92395@maine
 Dept. of Physics & Astronomy     Internet: venky@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu
 University of Maine
 Orono, ME 04469                  Phone   : (207) 581-1022

  "dream on 'til your dream comes true"
                                           - Aerosmith
  "the child is grown, the dream is gone"
                                           - Pink Floyd
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Sex Ratio, Population growth
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:43:31 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com
Followup-To: soc.culture.tamil

manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:

>So you mean to say that Kerala, with the smallest population growth-rate,
>will lose more seats? Why should we suffer for the lack of family-planning
>on the part of north Indians?

How did Kerala end up with the highest population density? Maybe you
had your spell of lack of family planning. Now it is the turn of
north Indians.

Does it bother you that Madhya Pradesh (my state), with maybe 10 times
the area of Kerala has about 4 times the seats?

>I seriously think that India is too big and diverse to be one country.

Maybe so. But remember that with such a high population density, Keralites
have migrated to all sorts of lands (including north India) to earn their
livelihood there. So the rest of India (and World) has borne the brunt of
population explosion in Kerala in the past. It was high time you reduced
your population growth. Should have done so earlier. Then, Kerala would
have started with 4 seats and increase it's share later so that you could
feel good.

Sumitro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
From: bsmg9810@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bhaskar S. Manda)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:18:35 GMT

sramacha@skat.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran) writes:


>"I hate Tamils. I *really* *HATE* Tamils"


>This string is present in the sub-conscious memory locations of most non-Tamilians
	     ^^        
>I've known. Civility prevents these people from expressing the above feeling
>overtly, but the point is that this feeling _is_ there. Tamils, aka "Madrasis"
>are, IMHO, the most hated sect/group/community in India. 
		^^^^^^^^^^

>Why ? If 8 out of 10 (figuratively)  people have reasons to hate us, then there	 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>must be something wrong somewhere (within us?). 

	Son, your facts, English and opinions are screwed up.
	Got nothing else to do ?

	Bhaskar (UIUC)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS (2)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:25:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.205307.3598@news.uiowa.edu> rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes:
>
>While imposition of Hindi is unnecessary, obstinately refusing to open up
>to a rich language, like most tamilians I know do, will definitely be a loss
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>for them.

Hindi, a rich language?!! Ha ha.. That's a good one.

>Ramakrishna  

Njan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Humor: reservation
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:41:53 GMT


  Since reservation issue seems to be the hot topic, here is my
2 cent worth:
[                         REQUEST
This is given only for humor. Don't try to read between lines and 
deduce my opinion in this matter. And no flames, if you think this 
joke as gross. Take joke as joke. And if you post a followup for 
this article, please don't delete this paragraph in square brackets.]

 I heard this when I was in Roorkee,UP. Here it is:
In the men's restroom, some ten inches above the pisspot, there was a 
marked line and the scribbling was "If you pee over this line, you'll
be recruited for fire services" and there was another line,some
six inches below the top line and the scribbling was "This is for
SC/ST".

Cheers,
Venkat
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: crathina@ritchie.uwaterloo.ca (C Rathinavelu)
Subject: Tamizh Jokes (Kunghumam - varra ethazh)
Originator: crathina@ritchie.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:46:15 GMT

 Joke 1:
         Police:  massage pandra halai vullae thalli ...
                  "idhu dhanda police'nu sonnathu
                  thappa-pochi ..." 
         
         Other:   eann?

         Police:  naethu massage pandra saakulae ennai
                  puratti edu-thuttan. Kaettal ... 
                  "idhu dhanda malish'nu solrann!".

 Joke 2: 
         Oruvar:  "selvathirku vuria deivam Laksmia?
                   Ghubharana?"

       Matravar:  "kaiyil oru cent kooda illai! intha
                   kaelviyai katka vungalluku vaera
                   allae kidaikkilaya? 

 Joke 3:
         Reporter: "sa-mia thayarikkara company 
                   arambikkanumnu eann thonichi?"

      M.D.(Owner): "samudhayathukku  eathavadhu oru
                    `sa-vai' saiyanumnudhan.

 Joke 4: 
         Kanavan: "une paiyan paritchaiyela pakkathu
                   paiyan paperrai vanghip parthanaam".
  
         Manaivi: "neangha koodathaan pakkathu veetukkarar
                   paperrai vanghip parkareerghal!".

 Joke 5:
         One: enn mama pirandhadu Kattu-mannarkudi, enn 
              sithye pirandhadu Thiruvaerkadu, enn athai
              pirandhadu Kattong-kulathur, enn sithappa
              pirandhadu Manghadu, enn ..."

         Two: appa vungha kudumbamae oru aadhi-vasingha
              kudumbamnu sollungha!"


Enjoy,
C.Rathinavelu

"Language is the main vehicle of communication. But it also 
 reflects a history, a civilization, a system of values.
 Language is the main support of a culture" - M.C.R.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian