From: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: The Language on SCP  (Shams to shames)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 00:39:05 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu
Summary: Not all Bhangis are the same : Some are superior then most.
Keywords: Hang loose on the Caboose !

In article <1993Jan07.172155.7844@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
>To: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu
>Subject: Re: The Language on SCP
>
>In article <1ihre1INNr18@shelley.u.washington.edu> you write:
>>In dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>>In indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
>>>> To: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu
>>>> In article <1id3t6INNs05@shelley.u.washington.edu> you write:
>>>>>In merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>	In regards to the language on SCP:
>>>>>>....... (deleted)......
>>>>>>Rukhsana Merchant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear Rukhsana Merchant,
>>>>>
>>>>>As I have earlier mentioned in SCI, we need to take a more amused and tolerant
>>>>>view of the language used, especially if some or most of us have to visit,
>>>>>India, Pakistan and Bangladesh now and then. Were we to forget the reality of
>>>>>trash (eg Bhangies and Chamaars) back home, whome you will surely encounter as
>>>> 
>>>>    Man!  this is a racist remark. If you do not like something or donot
>>>>    approve of something that is your problem. Then why do you want  to pull 
>>>>    some other innocent community. [R U shameless to say that you are moved 
>>>>    and had tears,  and utter such bullshit].
>>>>    I'm not here to  discuss the rights and wrongs of those posters. Who the
>>>>    hell R U to comment upon  certain communities? Learn to keep yourself in 
>>>>    restrained if you can't think with out dividing people on some basis or 
>>>>    other.
>>>> 
>>>>    What do you mean by Bhangis or Chamaars?
>>>
>>> [Deb Chaterji writes]
>>>   Dear Indu:
>>>
>>>  There are many frogs in a poond (a la cesspool) where frogs croak. While
>>>  Ms.Merchant can always deserve kudos for her rational viewpoint, it is out
>>>  of her own interest that she (RM) should remind her "brother in Islam"
>>>  the great Moron Incarnate (Mustafa Ibrahim) - what decency is all about.
>>>  It will be just some time to see how things work from her side.
>>>
>>>  Regarding Shams Hasan, I think that you are wasting your time. This is the
>>>  hypocrite (available only in Pakistan - though rare) species. This "noble"
>>>  soul is actually racist (as you have observed) and did openly express his
>>>  desire to "... CASTRATE THE HINDOOS .... ". Everyone knows this - who have
>>>  read the SCP frequently. Therefore puking from such hypocrites is just 
>>>  reminder that beggars/ ragpickers like Shams Hasan exhibit their own
>>>  family values by calling others chamaars/ bhangis etc. and etc. He is quite
>>>  a "decent" and a "honnest guy" - as he claims. He claims to be a Musaalman - 
>>>  while he has embraced the American culture - proudly and isotropically 
>>>  shouting at all others   " I was *once* a Pakistani citizen ".  You know
>>>  what he does: he calls his American friends (who are quite naive about
>>>  situations outside U.S - in general), and, shows them the selected postings
>>>  from SCP/ SCI particularly the ones that could be unpleasant - to show
>>>  that some single person represents India - which is not true anyways. This
>>>  is probably the way he (Shams) makes a living.
>>>
>>>  Thus, don't ever bother to respond to idiots like Shams Hasan and let him
>>>  hang loose from the Caboose.
>>>
>>>     - regards,
>>>
>>>      deb chatterjee
>>>   (a good samaritan)
>>>
>>>  P.S: If you walk nearby a cesspool, you might find tadpoles there - that are
>>>       of Shams Hasan resemblance.
>
>   Thanks deb! I now understand what you mean. I got the essence of your letter
>   only after seeing this arrogant-ass [ oh I'm sorry, even that is a disgrace
>   to that sepcies], reply. Looks like this fellow unable to think logically 
>   has now reduced down to single liners. 
>
>   Even in the following reply of his, he could not get out of his small 
>   creep hole, tyrying to look at humans as Chamars, no chamars, Pakis and 
>   non-Pakis, etc.
>
>   some creatures are incorrigible. :-)
>
>   sham(e)s  go ahead.  You proved me wrong and Deb Chaterji right. :-)  :-)
>
>   once again thanks deb!
>
>>Dear Indu,
>>
>>U B Pakistani ? I B Surprised !
>>
>>I know U no Bhangi/Chamaar, but Pakistani ??
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Shams Hasan.
>>
>>
>>Dear deb(uttante) chatter jee,
>>
>>Bhangi #2 speaketh. My lord, what maketh such tidings cometh. 
>>Such miracles from yonder, how he chatters on................
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Shams Hasan.
>
>
>-Indu.

Dear Indu/Hindu and Bhangi #2,

I am glad you two agree with each other regarding my posts.
As, Indu interjected, in my response to Rukhsana, accusing me of a snobbish
and hypocritical tone in my article, and Bhangi #2, still a little shy,
took a cheap shot behi I Indu/Hindu's skinny indian butt.

I guess Bhangis/Chamaars are eligibe like all other unfortunates for redemptionthrough good behaviour in the society.

THEREFORE, AS EVERY ONE OF THE BHANGIS/CHAMAARS ARE NOW SNIVELLING THEIR
SNOT, I WILL MAGNAMINOUSLY ALLOW U THE BENEFIT OF SOME TIME FOR A HALF DECENT
RESPONSE AS BEST AS I CAN.

Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.








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