From: tnelson@bellahs.com (Tom Nelson RD)
Subject: Re: Straight Child molesters?
Followup-To: alt.politics.homosexuality
Organization: Bell Atlantic Healthcare Systems
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:40:47 GMT

Clayton Cramer Babbles:
]In article <1992Apr1.203336.2742@bellahs.com>, tnelson@bellahs.com (Tom Nelson 
]RD) writes:
]> I've not seen ONE SINGLE POST defending what NAMBLA stands for or advocating 
]> that the age of consent be lowered.  But you & Cramer have not heard a word 
]
]How about the postings in soc.motss from NAMBLA's representative?
]How about the postings arguing for abolition of the age of consent?
]Or the ones arguing that 12 year olds know what they are doing about
]sex?  There have been HUNDREDS of such postings in soc.mots in the
]last few months.  HUNDREDS.]

Hundreds and Hundreds? (You are starting to sound like Carl Sagen)

Lessee... from my observations the postings in soc.motss (please note the 
spelling CC) fall into three basic categories:
1)	Postings about upcoming events of interest to the gay community 
	around the country
2)	Postings asking for information about where to go and what to 
	do when visiting some part of the country.
3)	Postings attacking/defending the gay community.

Now item 3 can be broken down roughly right down the middle.  With postings 
from You, djk and one or two other accounting for about half the volume.  
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Now about the NAMBLA representative.  I don't remember seeing that post go 
by, but if you say it did I'll take your word for it.  (<sigh> Theres one 
in every crowd :-).  Did this NAMBLA representative speak FOR the gay 
community?  If so under whose athority.  I've got news for you Cramer.  
No one speaks for the gay community, we are too diverse, each of us speaks 
for ourselves.

Pay very close attention to the next paragraph Cramer.  The point my be too 
subtle for you to grasp on the first time through, but keep trying, you'll 
get it eventually I'm sure.  
Supporting a person or groups right to say something does not equate to 
agreeing with what that person or group has to say.  The gay community 
has been silenced so often that we seem to be loath to silence anyone else.
The way I see it NAMBLA is its own worst enemy... they don't need any help. 

Also, discussions about committing a crime are not the same thing as 
committing that crime.  At meetings of groups like NORMAL they discuss 
drug legislation, and how to make marijuana legal in the US.  As long as 
they are not smoking it they are not committing a crime and so can not be 
prosecuted.  If NAMBLA members like to fantasize about little boys then let 
them... as long as they don't go out and find actual children to molest they 
are not committing a crime and so can not be prosecuted.

]
]> Thomas Nelson        tnelson@bellahs.com
]-- 
]Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer

If you are looking for an evil queen Cramer, you might have better luck 
reading snow.white.

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