Newsgroups: rec.equestrian

/ hpspdla:rec.equestrian / joi@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (JMM) /  4:41 pm  Jan  7, 1993 /

>Now that my gelding has navicular and can only be used for light riding, I've 
>been looking around for another horse.  I had originally set my price limit to 
>about $1500-$2000, but frankly haven't seen an awful lot in this area (around 
>Denver) that has impressed me.  Quarterhorses just don't seem to be able to 
>move the way I want, and I'm leary of getting a Thoroughbred since I don't 
>have a barn yet (spring!).  I've wanted a warmblood for a long time, but 
>never thought I could afford one.  Lo and behold, I opened a local horse
>newspaper and the Mile High Horse Ranch is selling more than half of their
>stock of Trakehners.  Just for the heck of it, I went to look.  I fell in
>love with a 2-year-old grey filly, and her price, though more than I 
>originally intended to pay for a horse, sounded pretty good to me ($3375).

>jumpers?  Does this price seem reasonable?  (Yes, I understand that the
>stock that's being sold are the "culls", but those culls are better movers
>than anything I've ever ridden.)  

The prices are all very good, it's really more of a dispersal sale as
Vanda (the breeder) is only planning on keeping a few horses and will
spend more time breeding Ostriches. The majority of these horses are 
definitely not culls. Normally a good quality 2yr old Trakehner filly would 
go for $7,000 to $12,000. I think most of Vanda's two year olds in
this sale are are priced in the $5,000 range, with some of the smaller horses
(<15.3 hands) being reduced in price. In my experience Vanda is a honest and 
reputable breeder. 

> Description of filly deleted


> friend
>to (who lives in Illinois) thought the price was very high for an unproven
>2 year old

I defy your friend to find a quality warmblood WEANLING for that price.
Unless it is raised somewhere like Wyoming, where the cost of
producing, feeding and keeping horses might be fairly low or at a
distress or dispersal sale, I think it will be unlikely.


>
>How do Trakehners compare to other warmbloods?  How are they in general as
>jumpers? 
>
It is very difficult to generalize about the jumping ability of a
particular warmblood "breed". The particular bloodlines are probably
more important. Is the filly out of one of her Condus mares? Condus was
known primarily as a dressage sire, but his sire Ramzes was a jumper and
founded a huge line of world class jumpers ( like Ratina Z,the Olympic Silver 
medalist) (As an aside it might interest you to know that Ramzes was an
Anglo-Arab). Look at the bloodlines of the dam. Also, as Tracy
suggested, look at as many related horses as you can, including the dam. 
Erzand is dead, so you won't be able to look at him, but Vanda
probably still has some more of his offspring. See how the filly handles
the free jumping and if you like her attitude towards the fences.

>Please answer ASAP since I feel like I need to put a deposit on this
>filly (subject to vet check, of course, and subject to her jumping attitude),
>very soon.
>
>	Joy Metcalf
>	attmail!dnzj0!joym
>	joym@ATT.COM.attbl.attmail.dnzj0


Good Luck ! Let us know what happens.


Kyle Karnosh
Con Brio Farms
Quality Warmblood Sporthorses
Gilroy, CA
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