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From: mxcrew@mx2306.gud.siemens.co.at (The MX-Crew)
Subject: Re: sliding (was:: 65+ mph turns)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 07:17:55 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11
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	  2
     m * v
Z = --------
       r

Z = lateral force
m = mass (bike + driver)
v = speed
r = radius

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 | PEYERL MICHAEL, SIEMENS AG VIENNA          |  \_/ \\/ )  -- -    --
 | E-MAIL: mxcrew at mx2306.gud.siemens.co.at |       |/_\  -- -  --   -
 +--------------------------------------------+        \_/.  .  . . ........
 Honda NX500 Dominator + 588ccm racepiston
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Not-Wrecking Insurance (Was: Re: HELMETS)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:13:31 GMT

>In article <538.2B2BECC5@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:

>|Or, do you have a written contract from Fate that says your head will never
>|strike anything with enough force to damage it? :-)

Tying this one in with the 'cost to society/group insurance' crap^H^H^H^H
thread, I thought I'd post the terms of *my* insurance:

reprinted without permission:

Accidents-Be-Damned Insurance Company

     This agreement constitutes a permanent license granted by CLIFF WESTON,
the damned, as licensor, to Mephistopheles, as licensee, for use of his soul
for all eternity.  The parties understand that it is not their intent to create
a landlord-tenant relationship; that their intention is strictly contractual in
nature, providing the Antichrist with the soul of the damned as payment for
services rendered to that party, the details of which are to be determined by
verbal agreement and subject to change as a result of the capricious nature of
the Prince of Darkness.

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|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598         '92 Seca II (Tem)        |
|                                                                          |
| "uncomfortable and difficult to strap on my helmet and adjust my dickie" |
|                           -- Buddy Taylor                                |
|                                                                          |
|          "....your balls might be too big and swollen....."              |
|                        -- Jonathan E. Quist                              |
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Active Noise Cancellation (was Re: Nea
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:35:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 15065@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>There is also another alternative, check out the next gun
>show in your area, the bigger the better. There is a company
>that makes custom ear plugs, takes about 20 min. They have
>a quick setting goo they pour into your ear then they insert
>a gizmo that they can hook a string to. 

In case anybody cares, these are the only type earplugs that can
legally be worn in CA while operating a motorcycle.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:44:42 GMT

jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:

>Lisa Delorme suggested that several people could contribute bras (I imagine
>that she's willing to participate). All those who wish to contribute should
>E-mail to me (post if you like). I will post the list of contributors. Feel
>free to suggest other ways to go, but here's my idea. Bidders should indicate 
>which bra they would like, and E-mail to me (post if you like, but be sure
>to email). The bra goes to the highest bidder, and everyone else is free to
>donate anyway, of course.

	At the risk of getting flamed by an F-4 on full afterburner, the
only question I have is this: Does Mary Shaffer wear a special bra to
more easily withstand G-forces in the cockpit of those gorgeous aircraft
she gets to motor around in?  If so, is it up for bid?

	But this is somewhat sexist.  I'll put up my cup for the women
and ladies to bid on (gay or bi men can also bid, I suppose).  It's
made of 16ga steel and only has a few dings in it, no pun intended,
if there is enough interest.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Subject: Re: Sportbike Reccomendation
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:51:47 GMT


The smallest 1000 bike I know is the FZR1000. My girlfriend is 1.64 meter
and gets both feets on the ground.

-Axel
-- 
fischer@netmbx.de                                                   DoD #0228
GSXR1100 - RD350LCN - XR250R
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Engine ignites gas (was Re: correction on New Biker)
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:45:47 GMT

But yet you can take a lit cigarette or cigar and drop
it in a cup of gas and it wont lite but it will put out
the smoke for ya. However for someone to spill gas on your
tank is bad enough (takes the wax right off). Now on the
right coast here is what you do when filling up.
1. Remove the nozzle from pump and lower it the the 
   ground dumping out any "slosh" from the last person
   who used it.
2. Stick the nozzle in the tank then reach over and turn
   the pump on.
3. Fill the tank
4. Turn the pump off (with the nozzle still in the tank)
5. Squeeze the pump handle (removing any "slosh" left in
   the nozzle/hose)
6. Remove the nozzle and put it back where it came from.
7. It is NOT a good idea to fill up just before parking on
   warm summers day as that gas is good an cool from in
   the ground storage and in the tank parked in the sun
   all day it will expand and leak out all over your finish.
   It will leak even more so if you filled using the center
   stand and park with the side stand.
**Now NJ and CA will differ (among others) as they have
  those handy "Vapor recovery" dildoes where you have to
  break a ground in order for them to work by pushing back
  the foreskin on the dam things, then they'll pump. 
  Now fun was when I used to get gasoline delivered by agway
  to my 500 gal tank we had in the barn, this used a hand
  pump with no squeeze handle, you had to guesstimate from
  5 feet away when to stop pumping. Gave new meaning to the
  definition of the words "2 stroke and 4 stroke". :-)
-- 
##########################################################
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                 and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH	#2/10/10/92
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Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist  
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I BUY my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi (FSE) <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:54:48 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

randy@megatek.com writes:
>In article <1700@tekgen.bv.tek.com> tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell)
>writes:
>|Its really hard for me to believe there are lots of cages traveling over
>|100mph down any road in America, especially one that is heavily used.  Me
>|thinks you are exaggerating.
>
>  Methinks you are naive, Terry.  I used to do the Austin to Oklahoma City I-35
>drive that Kent is referring to (and back) about once a month.  Kent is not
>exagerating, at least not by much.  There were usually about four cars during
>the trip that would fly by me when I was traveling 70 to 80.  I would say that
>his estimate is not far off.  There are always a few that feel that it is
>their right to sit five feet off your bumper although the lane to the left
>IS empty.

Methinks Randy is right. Methinks usenet is weird, since the original
article hasn't shown up here yet, but anyhow.

Methinks people drive 100mph in northern New Jersey. Methinks you can guess
how I know this.

>  For that matter, Mr. Powell, you have obviously never driven in any of the
>desert areas.  For instance, while driving up to/from Las Vegas last weekend,
>the average speed in the desert was in the 80's, with at least 25% going over
>90 and at least ten cars I estimate that were over 100 (two I stayed with for
>a while in the more desolate areas)...

Desert shmezert.

[...]
>|SLOW TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT

Thank goodness he didn't get this one wrong!:-}
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
                            Loud Pipes Suck
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mtrhead@selway.umt.edu (Josh Harmon)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:07:13 GMT

In article <7856@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>, bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Yr Obdnt Srvnt) writes:
> In article <1992Dec7.211555@cs.wpi.edu> ravi@cs.wpi.edu writes:
> >jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
> >:-
> >:-I agree with most of what you've said, including the stuff I deleted,
> >:-but damn it all, why do so many insist that motorcycling is
> >:-a "sport" or "passtime"?  To me, it's tranportation.
> >
> >
> >	i agree totally! the usage of the word "sport" to define
> >	motorcycling not only misses certain features but also adds
> >	negative connotations.
> >
> 
> Listen sport, I must disagree with your agreement with Jonathan's
> disagreement. (I see what you mean, "sport" does have a negative
> connotation!)

deletions...

Lawmakers see motorcycling as a "sport", thus our favorite mode of 
tranportation, fun, excitement, whatever, to them is expendable.  

That is the problem.  

 



-- 
--- Josh Harmon -- 88 CR500R -- 88 GSX600F -- Disciple of DoD: #1137 ------
::: mtrhead@selway.umt.edu   To Bad, San Fran :(, The Cowboys are BACK! :::
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From: rpw@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ray Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Soft Luggage FOR SALE
Keywords: Tank, saddle bags
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:01:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Dec16.160140.9831
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

FOR SALE: Soft Luggage. Nylon (cordura) saddle bags and tank bag
          with plastic frames. I don't remember what brand, but I
          got them from Dennis Kirk for a cross-country trip a
          couple of years ago. Did the trip (9000 miles) and
          haven't used them since. One saddle bag has a small
          melt hole. I got the largest ones in the catalogue,
          and they cost over $350 new. You can have 'em for less
          than $100+shipping...

          Selling because I won't be doing any trips in the next
          couple of years (except aboard a boat ;^), and my next
          bike will be a Concours.

--ray


-- 
Ray Wagner
                                Computer Science Department
     rpw@cs.virginia.edu         University of Virginia
                                  Charlottesville, VA   22903
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:30:53 GMT

In article <31005.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
> Arthur C. Clarke described active noise cancellation quite thoroughly
>in a short story back in the 1950s.  Someone managed to patent it
>anyway, but it's widely known the US Patent Office will issue patents
>for nearly anything.  Clarke's prior description makes the patent very
>shaky.

I suspect the patent isn't for the noise cancelling technique, but
for the deviced itself.  The second commercially available active
noise cancelling aviation headset was introduced within a year
of the first.

> In the story, the noise canceller was used for a variety of nefarious
>purposes, culminating when a group of DoD-types began using the device
>to cancel lectures in colleges.

This was later ripped off by Mission: Impossible (Sorry, I don't know
who to do oblique overstrikes in ASCII) and used to prevent a
high-ranking communist state official from hearing the actual dialogue
in a non-conformist play...  though the managed to set up a sound-cancelling
field around a single auditorium seat, in conflict with basic acoustical
principles....)

Wasn't the basic principle first described by Ptolemy or one of his
counterparts, while observing ripples on the surface of a pond?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:19:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.143244.1391@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.032038.564@pages.com> bigdog!jon (Jon Wright) writes:
>>
>>What if you want to be seen in your bra?
>
>Why, are you thinking of buying one?

Is yours for sale?

-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: vinceg@mcdbos.UUCP (Vince Grove)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:46:56 GMT
Reply-To: vinceg@mcdbos.UUCP (Vince Grove)
Organization: Motorola Microcomputer Division, Woburn, MA

In article <1992Dec9.201050.671@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>
>   I am 38 years old, 5'7", 195 lb, and my blood pressure, though not high,
>is not far from being so. I eat too much, drink lots of beer, and don't 
>exercise enough. In short, I will, in the future, be a poor health risk
>and a possible public burden. Should we, therefore, legislate nutrition
>and exercise requirements for all citizens? 

Of course not. But a line needs to be drawn between the costs that society
should bare and the costs an individual incurs due to *unnecessary* risks.

France, for example, has a socialist health system - but if you need to be
recued from a mountain because you broke a leg while skiing out-of-bounds,
you have to pay for it. In France, you're free to engage in *unnecessary*
risks but you also have to be prepared to pay for any consequences.

Does France have a helmet law?

-- 
Vince Grove				Motorola Computer Group
vinceg@bos.mcd.mot.com			300 Unicorn Park
617-932-1195				Woburn, MA 01801
From: mdennie@beryllium.mc.xerox.com (Matt Dennie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF question
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:31:30 GMT
Reply-To: mdennie@beryllium.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation

In article 24649@ucsu.Colorado.EDU, templin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (TEMPLIN GERI ELLEN) writes:
>
>   I'd like to know how to find an MSF course in my area. I'm
>in Colorado, Denver/Boulder area. What does it cost? Is the 
>consensus that it's worth it? I've ridden a bit but had a small
>spill right off the bat and had my confidence shook. I don't 
>have a feel for how to ride aggressively and I hate weenie-ing
>around.
>
>thanks    templin@rtt.cs.colorado.edu
>
>
>

The consensus is, "It`s worth it!"  The phone number is (800) 447-4700.  Give `em a call.


---
--Matt Dennie                              Internet: mmd.wbst207v@xerox.com
Xerox Corporation, Rochester, NY (USA)
"Reaching consensus in a group often
 is confused with finding the right answer."  -- Norman Maier
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Problems with the 'Ol Sport
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:43:01 GMT

In article <txd.723917286@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
|
|>Sounds like a blown head gasket.  
|
|This seems to be the net.consencus (tm) I'll see what the shop has to
|say.
|
|>>I still intend to take it back to the shop that did the rebuild, as it
|>>has less than 200 miles on it. 

Hmmm.  Something just crashed into my fuzzy brain.  Last night I was reading
a back issue of Motorcyclist, er, I mean, Squid Monthly (Lance Holst is a 
Jerk), and there was an article talking about race prepping a Sportster for 
883 road racing (okay guys, you can stop laughing, now).  One of the things 
they mentioned was that Sportster cylinders deform from heat after the first 
few hundred miles of running, and they rebored them after break-in, for 
better power and longer life.

Are the cylinder liners new?  (Are there cylinder liners?  Could they have 
warped, and unsealed the head?

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: a few questions from a wanna-be owner.
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:08:04
Distribution: na

"wilsont" == Timothy Wilson <wilsont@rahul.net> writes:

wilsont> 1. Why aren't swing forks more popular? are they unstable? or
wilsont> just unconventional/too radical?

Do you mean old-style earles forks, or the newer RADD-type suspensions
that only exist on about 3 different bikes (Bimoto Tesi, the new
Yamaha bike, Britten's V-twin racer)?

wilsont> 2. a good cc range to 'start out' with would be??
wilsont> (commute/Bay area freeways)

500-750cc would be my advice.  Don't worry about enough power to carry
passengers until you learn to ride reasonably well.

wilsont> 5. I haven't seen a bike yet with fuel injection, what wrong
wilsont> with FI?

They exist, they're just expensive and complicated.  FI gear doesn't
like being "out in the weather", it'd rather stay under a nice save hood.

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWMOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 17:47:41 GMT

In article <carlp.724711897@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>I bid $5, regardless of features, for any bra actually worn by Jody within 
>the past month which has not been damaged by fire, flood, famine, earthquake,
>tornado, mudslide, other natural disaster, acts of civil disobedience,
>or other damage exceeding "normal wear and tear".
>
>I presume that a portion of the proceeds will be donated to the
>Motorcycle Heritage Musem?

OK, how about this. Since this is a truly international organization, I 
propose that we should spread the wealth a little bit. Every year we have
the Ride for Sight campaign, where bikers across Canada gather at various
spots to party and raise money for the blind. If it's ok with everybody,
I'll send the proceeds there, from all of us at rec.moto. (Including the
story behind the donation, of course). 

Lisa Delorme suggested that several people could contribute bras (I imagine
that she's willing to participate). All those who wish to contribute should
E-mail to me (post if you like). I will post the list of contributors. Feel
free to suggest other ways to go, but here's my idea. Bidders should indicate 
which bra they would like, and E-mail to me (post if you like, but be sure
to email). The bra goes to the highest bidder, and everyone else is free to
donate anyway, of course.

I'm leaving for vacation on Wednesday, and the rec groups have short expiry
times so please email articles to me so that I don't miss any, and I will
wrap things up in January (literally!).

There may be lots of free-bouncing boobs in the new year, but it's a
good cause.

I've        bra                       like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you           | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         wear it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimi@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Jim Mack)
Subject: 1988 Honda CBR 600 "Hurricane" for sale
Summary: Fair Price
Keywords: Sweet Bike
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:58:59 GMT

For sale: 1988 Honda CBR 600 "Hurricane"

21,000 mi
Charcoal grey metallic with black metalic....red rims...very sharp..stealthy
Many x-tras including K&N air filter, new chain/sprockets, fuel pump
and many more.
Asking $2800.00 (serious inquiries only please)

I've owned this bike since March '92 when it had 10,000 miles.  I have
personally ridden the last 11,000.  This bike was ridden very responsibly
(it's my baby) and it was ridden as it should be.  (hundreds of miles at a
time in the twisties of southern Tennessee, northern Alabama and Georgia at
well paced "responsible" speeds)  Don't get me wrong, this bike has seen
"paralegal" speeds numerous times, but the appropriate times.

My problem is that I've fallen victim to the call of BMW...K-bike that is...
I need a bigger bike for the longer haul (over 500 miles on the CBR without
a Corbin is a bit unpleasant)

If interested, please E-mail me direct: jimi1@gordo.b29.ingr.com

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos