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From: rlim@us.oracle.com (Richard Lim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: info request
Keywords: SCO
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:08:15 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Originator: rlim@kr2seq.us.oracle.com
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Hi. I' not really new to the net since I've been following this news
group since it's inception. I've worked for Systems & Computer
Organization (SCO) from 1984 to 1987 and am wondering if they have
internet access or email addresses.

Thanx.

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.singapore:387 soc.culture.china:35042 soc.culture.taiwan:17415
From: gtd033a@prism.gatech.EDU (Dedy Tando)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Xin1 Nian2 Jin4 Bu4, Wan4 Shi4 Ru2 Yi4
Summary: Apologies.......
Keywords: ".......Chinese Chicken New Year "
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:32:30 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.singapore
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


         I would like to apologize to those of you who have misinterpreted the

words " HAPPY CHINESE CHICKEN NEW YEAR " and took it as a  gesture of insult. 


         Allow me then, to rephrase it again.


         HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR OF THE ROOSTER TO EVERYONE



dedy 
THE BEST IS YET TO BE
 


-- 
Dedy Tando
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Internet: gtd033a@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: an1975@anon.penet.fi (I. AMI)
Subject: Lecturing Lecturers
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.singapore
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:44:05 GMT

sa2263263@v9000 (ROLAND U) writes:

> has to go for "teaching lesson". Some of the lecturers and tutors here have
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> truely horrendous teaching habits. It's quite common over here as SAS,NTU
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The same applies to the students too. 


> to have horror stories of lousy lecturers who would use the entire hour
> to explain something only to go " Errr..I think I made a mistake up there "
> at the last minute. What's worse, they love to use chicken scrawl and talk
> with such thick accents its almost impossible to make out what they're saying.

Heard of ``oar see ng chuch lai tei ngang''.   I thought only American
kids complain about thick accent!.  I had a wide range of lecturers
when I was a student but I never had problem getting what they say.
The problem  must be with the listener then? Talk to them, stop them and you
will learn more that way,  not by  complaining behind their backs.

> Fortunately, we also have such great lecturers that explain everything with
> absolute clarity. We should commend these lecturers and condemn the former.

aka the spoon feeders.   Remember you control your destiny and
they are there to guide/help you. To learn the most you gotta
rub shoulders with them and hopefully you rub something off them.
It is also ``lonely'' up there.


However I don't mean to say that lecturers should not improve 
their teaching skills but just remember it takes two.


I. AMI
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: law30056@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KEN HWEE)
Subject: Re: Singapore Airlines, can someone from Singapore contact me?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:43:30 GMT

Mathew Manathara (mathew@cs.iastate.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: Could someone from Singapore contact me as soon as possible?
: I need some information on a ticket from Singapore to Madras (India)
: and back. I would really appreciate any help.
: 
: I also need similar help re ticket between Kuala Lumpur and Madras.
: 
: Thanks in advance,
: 
: -- Mathew Manathara
: (mathew@iastate.edu)

email me with details.  Have ok travel agent.
Get dates and preferred carrier if possible.
From: fellow@natinst.com (Osbert Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Mentality of Singaporean (Grossly over generalization)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:09:50 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

In article <1993Jan28.051928.23500@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, ghblee@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (H B Lee) writes:

> 
> Well, apparently, all our friend did was mail a complaint to the superfellow
> at andrew.cmu.edu.  Any action taken (ie. "silencing" and/or whatnot) against
> the "offending" person was carried out by the superfellow, aka 
> root@andrew.cmu.edu.  So, unless root@andrew.cmu.edu is a Singaporean, why
> all the hoo-hah about Singaporeans not being open-minded, etc?
> 

The "hoo-hah" is about our mentality, about progress of a society, about
doing what we preach, about honesty. If you claim that the mail sent to
root was not with the intention to silent the original poster, than either
I am too sensitive, or we have been accessing to entirely different newsgroups.

One could argue that I am making mountain out of a mole hill, nonetheless,
a peephole into a society really starts from the behavior of individual.
Of course, like I said before, I could be overly generalizing, which is what
I hope is the case.

-Osbert
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fellow@cs.utexas.edu  Standard disclaimer applies. My opinions are, simply mine.
"heng2 mei2 leng3 dui4 qian1 fu1 zi3, fu2 shao3 gan1 wei2 ru2 zi3 nu2" Lu3 Xun4
From: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Re: Neon Lights ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Reply-To: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:39:39 GMT


Why don't we suggest to them to take out all the traffic lights
as well. Plus street light...and car and bus head lights.......
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:14:32 -0500 
From: Bertrand Lee <chameleon+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: 1st non-S'porean but S'pore-bred ( I hope )
	<1993Jan27.021100.15425@iti.gov.sg>

On 27-Jan-93 in Re: 1st non-S'porean but S'..
user Kevin Patt @iti.gov.sg writes:
>Err, not really.  I believe the building is up, but I doubt it's ready for
>occupancy.

Trust me, my sisters are studying there.


+---------------------------------------------------+
|  Bertrand Lee                chameleon+@cmu.edu   |
+---------------------------------------------------+
                                        
"You can't cheat an honest man. He has to have larceny in his heart in
the first place."  -- Claude William Dukenfield

Xref: sparky soc.culture.singapore:509 soc.culture.asean:9290
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 27 Jan 1993 13:01:57 PST
From: <GJM@IAPETUS.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Best views of the island?
 <27JAN199318012245@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg>

>From: sa2263263@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg (ROLAND U)

>In article <1k5agdINNg3m@shelley.u.washington.edu>,
>cyberoid@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes...
>>
>>I'm staying downtown.  If I can get out (via feet or public transpor-
>>tation), what might be my best destinations to get a good feel for
>>Singapore and the best visual outlooks?  Thanks.
>>
>>Bob Jacobson
>The usual tourist spots like Chinatown, Little India are pretty good bets.
>Orchard road area is a must for watching Singaporeans at their favourite
>past time-shopping. A visit to a housing board is pretty informative too.
>One good way to soak in the sights is to hop on a bus, say bus no. 2 fom
>one terminal to the other. Get off at whatever stops you want, look around
>and get on the next bus. Try it with the MRT-the local subway, as well.

>Roland U.
>sa2263263@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg

May I agree with the above and suggest another venue - SIN from the ground:
start at the YMCA on Orchard and walk south through little india etc...  but
truly the best view of SIN is from....   the space shuttle: the shuttle has
four payload bay video cams, which 90% of the time are not in use...  so,
during the astronauts sleep periods, the ground controllers quite often will
simply point them "downward" and let the resulting signal be distributed
worldwide via NASA's "select TV". I've now seen SIN innumerable times during
daylit hours, but the true treat is on a clear night: SIN at the end of
the causeway (which is lighted), looks like a large pearl on a string hanging
from the malay penninsula - a worth while sight. (A nearby and very
worthwhile view is that of Sumatra during one of its world class thunder
storms. Nominally, from 400km up, a single lightning strike over let's say
north america will result in a 2 or 3 cm bright spot on the tv screen. When
one of sumatra's chain lightning strikes initiates, the whole screen goes
white (obviously over"amping" the ccd in the camera). A very worth while
site.
=greg
From: kwekb@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Dennis Kwek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Where is the best - Singapore Food
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:08:51 GMT
Reply-To: kwekb@essex.ac.uk (Dennis Kwek)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, Medieval England, Earth, Sol.

Dear whoever-is-staying-in-UK,

I would like to know if there are any *good* Singaporean restaurants
that are *cheap* (ok lah moderately cheap) in London... I have
seen plenty of chinese restaurants advertising things like Singaporean
Fried Noodles etc, but none of the real stuff that I really love:

Hainanese Chicken Rice, Mee Goreng, Mee Rubus, Mee Siam etc etc. I
appreciate any help to wet my glands....

Regds,

Dennis Kwek
Really Sua Ku (From the Mountain Come).

:)

DENNIS KWEK B.K.         - My Opinions are implanted by little green men.
E-mail    : kwekb@essex.ac.uk
Snail-mail: Dept of Computer Science, University of Essex, Wivenhoe Park,
            Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE)
Subject: Re: info request
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:46:02 GMT

Richard Lim (rlim@us.oracle.com) wrote:
: Hi. I'm not really new to the net as I'm been following this news group
: regularly since it's inception. I worked for Systems & Computer
: Organization (SCO) from 1984 to 1987 and am wondering if they have
: internet access and email addresses. Any info appreciated.
: 
: Thanx.
: 
Hi too! :) SCO does not have its own internet access, i think. But there
are people in SCO that have accounts in Technet. Trying mailing them at:
	scornd[1-6]@solomon.technet.sg
Each of these 6 accounts are under the names of different individuals.
Hope this will be of some use.
Bonjour! :)

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internet: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg
bitnet: eng20009@nusvm.bitnet
"What is true is true, and what is false is false." --- Snoopy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: elltankw@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Kok Wan Peter (Dr))
Subject: Re: Curious American
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:49:40 GMT

am5@cec1.wustl.edu (Avik  Mukherjee) writes:
: I was wondering: Is it fairly easy to live in Singapore and know English only?
: Can one get along well that way? I'm curious to know.
: 
: -Vic
: 
: am5@cec1.wustl.edu
: 
Yes, of course it is.  There are thousands of English-speaking only
expatriates here.  You can get by with taxi drivers in English, almost all
shops.  Some workmen (gardeners, odd-job people, etc.) may not speak
English.  On the whole you can get by.  I use some Malay and some Chinese
languages (Cantonese, Hokkien - I'm not a Mandarin-speaker) sometimes
because the other person would be happier to hear his/her language spoken.
                                                 PT  : 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: sampsona@ifi.uio.no (Sampson Dankyi Asare)
Subject: Help Needed for A friend
Keywords: Help
  
 Hi Singaporeans
    There is this friend fo mined who want to study in Singapore and want to 
 know how the educational system over thereis like. He is more interested in
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:14:59 GMT
Originator: sampsona@yrsa.ifi.uio.no


for instance the finacial aspect. Is it possible for a instance for him to get
 a part-time work ?. What about housing?. Do students have their own single
rooms ?.
 At the momet the friend is not on the net and any help should be directed to
me  : sampsona@ifi.uio.no
   Help is needed soon 
  Thanks for your help 


           

Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng)
Subject: Re: romantic spots in Singapore
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:35:34 GMT

big@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Alan Porter) writes:
: 
: I will be visiting Singapore in a couple of weeks, and I'd like to
: find a nice romantic spot to take my girlfriend.  Something like a
: park or a quiet spot with an inspirational view...  A good place for
: an afternoon walk...
: 
: You guys know of a good place to go?
: 
: ------------------------------------------------------------------
:                  Alan Porter   (big@catt.ncsu.edu)
:               104-A Darlena Court, Cary NC 27511 USA
: ------------------------------------------------------------------
: 

You just laid yourself open for a number of Singapore jokes 8-).

I believe that the Benjamin Sheares Bridge is a good start. It's a fair
hike though (I normally breeze through it in a car).

jin meng
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: [singapore-tanker] loaded supertanker on fire, abandoned off sumatra
Date: 21 Jan 1993 07:01:11 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Msen now as a Reuters news wire in, and news feeds are available.
Contact "info@mail.msen.com" for details.  Here is a current (and
sad) story.   --Ed

[ Article crossposted from msen.reuters.international ]
[ Posted on 21 Jan 1993 0:15:11 -0500 ]

AM-SINGAPORE-TANKER 1STLD
LOADED SUPERTANKER ON FIRE, ABANDONED OFF SUMATRA

(Eds: Adds volume of crude on tanker)
    SINGAPORE, Reuter - An abandoned supertanker with nearly two
million barrels of crude oil is on fire off the northern tip of
Sumatra in the Andaman Sea after a collision with another tanker
Thursday, the supertanker's management firm said.
    ``She is fully loaded (with oil), she is on fire, she is
abandoned,'' said a spokesman for Danish shipping company AP
Moller in Singapore. The firm is manager of the 255,312-ton
Maersk Navigator.
    The spokesman said the tanker has a storage capacity of
400,000 cubic yards which works out to 1,890,000 million barrels
of crude oil.
    ``The Maersk Navigator is still on fire and the ship is
drifting,''  said Singapore Marine Department director Teh Kong
Leong.
    The supertanker and the 96,545-ton Sanko Honour, collided at
about 3:00 a.m. Thursday (2:00 p.m. EST Wednesday),
he said.
    The supertanker's 24 crew abandoned ship and were rescued by
a passing container vessel, he said.
    A fire which broke out on the Sanko Honour was apparently
later extinguished by the crew, the AP Moller spokesman said.
He said the Sanko Honour was empty.
    An offical at AP Moller said the Singapore-registered
supertanker was carrying oil from Oman to Japan.
    The collision took place near the entrance to the Malacca
Strait between Malaysia and the Indonesian island of Sumatra.
    The Malacca Strait has been the scene of a series of
maritime accidents in the past year and is the graveyard of
countless ships.
    Up to 600 ships pass daily through the 600-mile waterway.
    In Malaysia, environment and rescue officials said they were
on alert following the collision.
    An official of the Department of Environment said a meeting
would be held later Thursday to assess possible environmental
damage to Malaysia.
    Malaysia has called for stricter safety measures in the
strait and has proposed levying a toll on passing vessels to
help pay for professional navigators.
    REUTER                                                      
           
  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Joke about Singaporean
From: jbfink@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Adder)
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:41:31 -0500
Organization: Cabal of the Discordian Buddha

In article <gfMYWXi00iV385a8Ut@andrew.cmu.edu>, ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
> Article-I.D.: andrew.gfMYWXi00iV385a8Ut
> References: <1993Jan18.131333.22299@iti.gov.sg>
> Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
> Lines: 35
> In-Reply-To: <1993Jan18.131333.22299@iti.gov.sg>
> 
> Freinds,
> 
> .
> 
> This way we got the "new" Singapore channel? To have its honor stained
> by the stink of racism. Is this it? To follow the way of a Crudy White
> American Joke.
> I am really surpised at this. 
> 


Although I don't particularly like this joke either, I feel I must speak out.

First of all, I happen to be a "Crudy" White American.
Second of all, I happen to be a resident of Singapore (when not at college).

So..
I don't appreciate your lumping ALL WHITE Americans together into one category 
as "Crudy".  Whatever happened to the legendary Singapore racial tolerance 
that I have admired and applauded on numerous occasions?  Will it vanish, due 
to some incredibly stupid joke? (btw, it really was pretty bad; I even ran it 
by a conservative-type who cares not too much about racial infractions, and he 
didn't laugh either).


adder -- "Crudy" White American F**kin' Bastard Extreme So Shoot Me
jbfink@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
From: cyberoid@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Singapore "Virtual Reality" Theme Park:  Wywy Group
Date: 26 Jan 1993 17:15:16 GMT
Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu



We in the U.S. have read press accounts of this "new Disneyland" in
Singapore, designed to replace physical attractions (which take lots
of space) with virtual reality representations and rides.  If anyone
has more details about or is involved with this theme park develop-
ment, please email me.  I would like to meet with the planners.  

In this regard, if anyone can point me to the underwriters, the Wywy
Group, and provide an email or fax address as well as the usual
address, and perhaps someone in charge's name, that would be really
keen.  

Thanks for your help ...and enjoy the park!

Bob Jacobson
cyberoid@u.washington.edu
From: liu@cs.unc.edu (Alan Ve-Ming Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: romantic spots in Singapore
Date: 27 Jan 1993 09:45:54 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
NNTP-Posting-Host: centurion.cs.unc.edu


In article <1993Jan27.023426.16423@nuscc.nus.sg> eng10406@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KAR GEE) writes:
>Alan Porter (big@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: I will be visiting Singapore in a couple of weeks, and I'd like to
>: find a nice romantic spot to take my girlfriend.  Something like a
>: park or a quiet spot with an inspirational view...  A good place for
>: an afternoon walk...

Ummm.... inspirational?  What do you hope to inspire? :)

A good place for a late afternoon walk would be along the seafront
at Marina Square.  This is a popular haunt after dark during the
weekends, with wall-to-wall couples all along the sea-wall, so
go during weekdays.  If memory serves me correctly, I think the seafront
curves south, then east, eventually ending at the mouth of the Kallang
River, where fishing fanatics spend their time catching crabs and 
anything else that swims and tastes good when cooked.  Alternatively,
head in the opposite direction to reach Queen Elizabeth (sp?) walk
and further on, to the Singapore River and enjoy local makan 
by the Riverside (god! I miss char koey tiau, I actually woke up once
with a craving for that thing).  If you go earlier, there are bum boat
rides for tourist at $6 per person along the river which will give you
a 1/2 hour tour of the singapore river.  I haven't tried this before,
so I can't vouch for it.  

Other places you might want to try are Mount Faber, almost as tall
as a 25 floor HDB point block.  Nevertheless, the view is 
good.  Go at around sunset.  The fastest way is to get to World Trade 
Center and take the cable car going to Mount Faber.  

Don't worry about peeping toms.  There must be something 
(inspirational?) going on that's worth peeping before this becomes 
a concern.

Cheers,
Al
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: ghblee@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (H B Lee)
Subject: Re: Mentality of Singaporean (Grossly over generalization)
Organization: GINTIC Inst of Mfg Tech, NTU
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:19:28 GMT

Osbert Tan (fellow@natinst.com) wrote:

> At the risk of making some overly generalised statements, I will attempt to
> point out the importance of Freedom of speech, and the lack of in Singapore.

> Simpliest way to silent dissents is to shut 'em up, and the attitude 
> propagated by the Singapore political culture can be observed from this
> newsgroup. Yes, you have the right to complain and it is IMO an inalienable
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> right. However, do not assume all administrators will respond the way you've
  ^^^^^
> speculated, I know, I have spoken to some them. We silent oppositions,
> silent dissents, silent people who have shown the slightest disrespect to
> Singapore (and/or any ornaments that is remotely symbolizing Singapore).
> Sure, it is effective, but at what cost ?

> Are we so weak in our cognitive ability that we can not tell right from
> wrong, that we have to silent the WRONG ? Attack, argue, dispel, yes, but
> silent ? All these when Singaporean themselves are arguing for a more open
> society, open minded governing ? So are Singaporeans not ready to step into
> the new era afterall ???

Well, apparently, all our friend did was mail a complaint to the superfellow
at andrew.cmu.edu.  Any action taken (ie. "silencing" and/or whatnot) against
the "offending" person was carried out by the superfellow, aka 
root@andrew.cmu.edu.  So, unless root@andrew.cmu.edu is a Singaporean, why
all the hoo-hah about Singaporeans not being open-minded, etc?

- h.b.-
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    Republic of Singapore  *****************  or ghblee@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
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