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Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:18:49 -0500 
From: John Robert Leavitt <jl3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: A gaggle of geese, a pride of lions, a pack of wolves...

tim@iss.nus.sg (Tim Poston writes:

>
> jl3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Leavitt) writes:
>
>:  Actually, I believe it is from the Russian word "rabotnik" == worker,
>
>The Russian, by the way, is spelled
>with a Russian o as first vowel, only pronounced `a' because
>it's before the stress.  OK to transliterate as `rabotnik',
>I suppose, but only if you write the Russian president's given
>name as `Baris' --- the same shift happens there.

Um, excuse me, but no.  The Russian word is spelled "AIR" "AH" "BEH"
"OH" "TEH" "EN" "EE" "KAH".  I know about the pesky unstressed vowel
shiftes (including the one in Boris), but that is not what is going on
here.  Here, the vowel actually is "AH" and happens to sound the same
as an unstressed "Oh" because it is also unstressed.

> if you write "rabotnik" you should write "sayuz".

If I transliterating based on pronunciation, yes, but as I explained
above, I am not.  I admit that "sayuz" is a better transliteration,
but I was thinking of the Apollo-Soyuz [sic] mission and lost my head.
C'est la vie.

-John.

Follow-ups to alt.language.russian.pedantic
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: shane@cs.sunysb.edu (Shane Bouslough)
Subject: Re: IS MY MINIBOARD WORKING?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:49:21 GMT

I hope somebody can help me. I just started reading this group
recently, and seeing all these posts about the miniboard has
made me feel like I just missed the party. Can anyone clue me
in? Also, it sounds like production of these items is about to
stop :-(. Can it be so? Did I really arrive at the dock just as
the boat is sailing away forever?

-Shane

--
Shane Bouslough       | #include <stddisc.h>
shane@sbcs.sunysb.edu | "Follow your bliss" - Joseph Campbell
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: ted@nmsu.edu (Ted Dunning)
Subject: 6811 simulator
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:55:55 GMT



i have the sim68.exe that is distributed on the net, but find that it
has quite a number of bugs which make it nearly useless.  since it is
distributed without source, it is impractical to fix it.

does anybody know how to find source to it, or how to contact the
author?  (a certain P. Fisch).

does anybody know of another such simulator which works better?
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: jrichard@cs.ulowell.edu (John Richardson)
Subject: Re: GCC and MC68HC16 ...
Organization: /usr/ug/1993/jrichard/.organization
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:33:52 GMT

In article <tch.727901077@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> tch@cis.ksu.edu (Thomas C Hampton ) writes:


   The subject really says it all.  I would like to be able to cross
   compile to the 68hc16 using gcc, but I need a backend to gcc for the
   hc16. 

   Thanks.
   --
   Tom C Hampton			    College of Engineering
   Kansas State University		      Compter Science
   NASA Mobile Robotics Research Group   Electrical and Computer Engineering
	   "When we are invited to live on this earth, there is no reason
	    we should not visit the basement."
					   -Jaques Cousteau

I have been told there is a company called coactive (coactive@coactive.com)
that has a port of GCC which they will "give" you when you buy their 
product.  Maybe they will put it up in ftp site?  Does someone know them
well enough to ask?  

			John Richardson

John Richardson                |  "the more we live, the more we learn, 
jrichard@cs.ulowell.edu        |   the more we know... for each of us the road
jrichard@dragon.ulowell.edu    |   is clear, and life has just begun" -- Yes
                                  

Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: jn163051@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Joel Nevison)
Subject: Re: Need Pressure Sensor
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:29:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <1993Jan22.093027.46632@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> bhclose@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Howdy:
>	Does anybody know of a high-quality, high-sensitivity pressure
>sensor (micro-scale and for fluids).  I assume it would be some sort of
>peizoelectric unit.  For that matter.  Could anybody recommend a decent
>catalogue of various and sundry types of sensors, gadgets, etc.???
>				Thanks much, 
>					Brett


There are many companies making solid state sensors, one that has a fairly
broad range is SenSym.   I don't have the address, California I know.
Motorola is another, but they don't have as broad a range of products.
I am doing a product search and evaluation of low pressure differential
sensors and could tell you a lot more in a few weeks if you need it.

Regards...Joel
--
 Substitution mass confusion /         Joel Nevison
    Clouds inside my head   / jn163051@longs.lance.colostate.edu
From: c23vgs@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Victor Sperry)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Re: IS MY MINIBOARD WORKING?
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:16:43 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.
Originator: c23vgs@kobcsw08


In article <1993Jan21.003432.28575@news.media.mit.edu>, fredm@media.mit.edu (Fred G Martin) writes:
> In article <1993Jan20.221146.13845@mixcom.com>
> Clint.Laskowski@mixcom.mixcom.com (Clint.Laskowski) writes: 
> 
> >Does anyone have any .s19 files they could send me which I could
> >download to my miniboard to make sure things are working properly?
> 
> That's a good idea.
> 
> >I think we should work together to write a "Miniboard Test Program"
> >which will blink the motor LEDs or something else to let us know
> >the boards are working properly.
> 

I wrote a small RAM-downloadable, stand alone "motor blink" PTP file
for the miniboard which I have sent out on the net before. If you want
a copy, E-mail me and I'll send you one.

-- 
Vic Sperry        (317)451-0036
Project Engineer, Delco Electronics
c23vgs@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com          I just want the best S/W tools
deaes!c23vgs                                      Is that so wroooong?
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: bd6520@u.cc.utah.edu (BALACHANDRA DESHPANDE/MECHANICAL ENGINEERING)
Subject: THANKS for the help with Matrix methods....
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 05:46:20 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: THANKS(Re: URGENT! help with matrix methods...)
Summary: 
Expires: 
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Distribution: comp.robotics,sci.engr.mech
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Keywords: 



	Thanks to all the people who helped me out with the Matrix Methods
books/references questions. I appreciate all the suggestions. Thanks again!
Bala.
From: gottwals@yoicks.next.com
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Stepper Motor Control
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:13:59 GMT

Netters,

Is anyone out there doing any work with closed loop
stepper motor compensators.  Any information in this
area would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Steve Gottwals
email: steve_gottwals@next.com
From: kw0426@shire.ac.arknet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Robot Submarine
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:38:55 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello-
This is:  kw0426@shire.ac.arknet.edu
I am interested in building a robot submarine.  I need to learn some
things first, and am interested in touching bases with anyone working
on even remotely simmilar projects.  I need sources of information,
like "the robot book" if there was such a thing.  And, I need to know
if there have been any simmilar projects published that I can study before
I get started.  Don't assume I know anything- this is as much a project 
for the purposes of increasing my understanding as it is one aimed
at achieving a product robot.  Please respond via email if you have 
any information, or know where I can find it.
Thanks for you time--
--kw0426@shire.ac.arknet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: jek@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (James E. Kittock)
Subject: Re: A gaggle of geese, a pride of lions, a pack of wolves...
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:43:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.000815.24846@mprgate.mpr.ca> mott@mprgate.mpr.ca (Jenni Mott) writes:
>Brad Smallridge (bsmall@iat.holonet.net) wrote:
>:> Great! If Asimov used the term "Pod" than I think I'll use it. Too bad I
>:> didn't think of it first but then Asimov been thinking longer and better
>:> than I.

>A Pod of Robots ... Definitely the best option I've heard so far.  I
>think I'll use it too.  (3 cheers for I. Asimov! ;-) )

Of course, pod is already in use: a pod of whales.

(side note: there's a lot of funny terms like this For
crows, it is "a murder of crows").

Looking at some of the administrata (?) that goes on
around here (or anywhere), if we asked "them", they
would probably suggest "a commission", which would
consist of "task-forces", which would have various
"committees", which would, of course, have
"sub-committees" and so on.

Aaaugh!  What a horrible thought.

On a more serious note, here are two more suggestions:

Unit of robots		too militarish, perhaps
Gang of robots		as in chain-gang (or street gang! :-O )
Rally of robots		organizing to change the world
Rash of robots		they're everywhere
Regatta	of robots	aquatic robots only?
Romp of robots		just a bunch of funlovin' robots
Roster of robots	very orderly, as compared to...
Rumpus of robots	some labs are like this

and last, but not least...

Bob of robots		well, robert -> bob, so why not robot?

I also like "society", even if it sounds pretentious.
Terms like "team" and "unit" are OK if all of the
robots are working together on a given task, but if the
group is a mixture of robots, a less cooperative-
sounding term seems more appropriate.

-- 
 james kittock :: stanford cs grad student :: duke '92 :: go blue devils!!
 "Adaptation is a recursive process in living systems." -- Alex. M. Andrew
From: epperson@adobe.com (Mark Epperson)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: MiniBoards
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:24:56 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Is anyone selling fully assebmled & tested miniboards?

Mark Epperson
From: fredm@media.mit.edu (Fred G Martin)
Subject: Re: IS MY MINIBOARD WORKING?
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 00:34:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.221146.13845@mixcom.com>
Clint.Laskowski@mixcom.mixcom.com (Clint.Laskowski) writes: 

>Well, I just got my 6811 CPU from Alan Kilian (thanks Alan!).
>I put it in my miniboard, connected the board to my Mac and powered
>it up. Everything seemed to go fine (no smoke!) so I downloaded
>MON (the Mac version). As soon as I downloaded it, all the motor
>LEDs on the miniboard turned "on" (both green and red) and stayed
>on.

This effect (both red and green motor LEDs on with MON) is an
undesirable artifact of the monitor bootstrap routine having turned on
extended addressing.  

You won't be able to control the motor with MON as it is.  I guess I
should fix this.  Alternatively, this effect can be seen as proof that
your motor chips are working, otherwise the LEDs wouldn't light at
all!

>The help info was listed and the system was interactive (ie.
>I could read and write memory locations. I could not turn off the
>motor LEDs. I tried writing $00 and $FF to location $005D. Is this
>normal?

Location $005D is just one humble byte of the 256 bytes in the 6811's
internal RAM.  Writing to it will affect motors IF AND ONLY IF the CPU
happens to be running HEXMON.ASM!  Otherwise you're just trashing a
byte of RAM!!  (I tried to be clear on this in the manual, but people
keep getting confused... am I to blame?)

If you want to control motors directly, write to address $1004, the
location of the 6811 Port B register, to which the motor chips are
connected.  But, because of the MON extended addressing problem, it
probably won't work from MON.  I'll try to fix this soon.

***Please don't confuse the HEXMON "registers" (implemented *only* by
the HEXMON software) with the 6811 register bank (addresses $1000 to
$103F).***


>Does anyone have any .s19 files they could send me which I could
>download to my miniboard to make sure things are working properly?

That's a good idea.

>I think we should work together to write a "Miniboard Test Program"
>which will blink the motor LEDs or something else to let us know
>the boards are working properly.

Alan Kilian has done so; the C source code is archived in
pub/miniboard/hexmon/hxmtest.c.  It requires that HEXMON40 be already
downloaded to the board; it then interacts with HEXMON doing things
like printing sensors values and turning motors on and off.

If someone wants to upload executables of this, that would be nice.

-- 
Fred Martin | fredm@media.mit.edu | (617) 253-7143 | 20 Ames St. Rm. E15-301
Epistemology and Learning Group, MIT Media Lab     | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
Xref: sparky comp.robotics:3059 sci.electronics:23422
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: New neural net chip by Hughes
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:36:32 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1993Jan21.063032.20458@Princeton.EDU> ajackson@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Andrew William Jackson) writes:
>
>Is this simply a microprocessor based implementation of a neural net model?
>That is to say is it just a serial simulation of a network or is it actually
>some sort of parallel architecture?

It's a parallel analogue machine, I believe.
--scott
From: jack@rml.UUCP (jack hagerty)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Re: Kraft Arm
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:14:38 GMT
Reply-To: jack@rml.UUCP (jack hagerty)
Organization: Robotic Midwives, Ltd.

In article <UfMlUZq00WB5QAQMgH@andrew.cmu.edu> ma29+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Daniel Arnold) writes:
>
>I just happened to come across a Kraft Ocean Systems GRIPS Manipulator...
>it has been stripped of its wrist yaw actuator and parallel jaw gripper
>assembly's.  I thought I'd post here to see if anyone would know the
>whereabouts of similar Kraft models that have been otherwise damaged
>(i.e. still have an operational wrist and gripper assembly) that someone
>would be willing to part with.

You might just try calling the manufacturer, Kraft Telerobotics (they
should have a customer list, and/or maybe some used parts lying around):

	(913) 894-9022, -1363 (fax)
	11667 W. 90th St
	Overland Park, KS  66214

Ask for Steve Harbur the VP of sales and marketing.  Real nice guy. 
Tell him I said to call.

- Jack

=============================================================================
||Jack Hagerty, Robotic Midwives, Ltd.                 jack@rml.com        ||
||Livermore, CA		           NOTE! New, improved address! ^^^        ||
||(510) 455-1143	            (old ones will still work)             ||
||-------------------------------------------------------------------------||
||  "I'm sorry they're flying so low and jamming your radar, Dimitri, but  ||
||    they're trained to do that. It's called, you know, initiative"       ||
=============================================================================
From: rose@bucknell.edu (philip rose `94)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Re: location of 6.270 texts?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:47:21 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: canopus.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <C17Ks3.C5@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v078p6g8@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Richard M Wasserman) writes:
|> If someone could point me to the ftp site containing the 6.270 text files
|> (whose address seems to have disappeared from my desk :) ) I would
|> greatly appreciate it.  Thanks,
|> 			Rich Wasserman



The 6.270 Robot Builder's Guide
Fred Martin
  Server: kame.media.mit.edu (18.85.0.45)
  File  : ~ftp/pub/fredm/README
  This directory contains "The 6.270 Robot Builder's Guide", the
  course notes to the 1992 MIT LEGO Robot Design Competition.
  Contact: Fred Martin at fredm@media-lab.media.mit.edu


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Rose
rose@coral.bucknell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: bsmall@iat.holonet.net (Brad Smallridge)
Subject: Re: A gaggle of geese, a pride of lions, a pack of wolves...
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:21:49 GMT

Great! If Asimov used the term "Pod" than I think I'll use it. Too bad I
didn't think of it first but then Asimov been thinking longer and better
than I.

Brad Smallridge


Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: bsmall@iat.holonet.net (Brad Smallridge)
Subject: Re: stepper isolation
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:00:27 GMT

drs@col.hp.com (Don Simmons) writes:
:       Would anyone have a circuit for isolation of the 
:      signals sent to a stepper motor with optical isolators
:       with part numbers and has tried it out??
:                     don
: 
Don,
If you send me your mail address, I will send you a schematic of an
optically isolated driver I built. Tested somewhat but not completely.
It's built around the L297 and L298 integrated chips from SGS-Thompson.
Brad Smallridge
bsmall@holonet.net
From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Re: Robot Submarine
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:40:14 GMT
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

kw0426@shire.ac.arknet.edu writes:

> Hello-
> This is:  kw0426@shire.ac.arknet.edu
> I am interested in building a robot submarine.  I need to learn some
> things first, and am interested in touching bases with anyone working
> on even remotely simmilar projects.  I need sources of information,
> like "the robot book" if there was such a thing.  And, I need to know
> if there have been any simmilar projects published that I can study before
> I get started.  Don't assume I know anything- this is as much a project 
> for the purposes of increasing my understanding as it is one aimed
> at achieving a product robot.  Please respond via email if you have 
> any information, or know where I can find it.
> Thanks for you time--
> --kw0426@shire.ac.arknet.edu

 
        Well, first of all, I'm not all too sure what this project is 
that you are embarking on, however, I take it this has to do with a 
robotic submarine.  I suggest that you get in contact with someone at the 
faculty of engineering at Simon Fraser University were they were working 
on a similar project to the JASON on the ALVIN (which was used during the 
Titanic search).
 
                        Hope this helps.
 
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     |          ^^^^^^^           ]+[ Baden de Bari ]+[           :
     :         ^ _   _ ^       baden@bbs.draco.inqmind.bison.ca   |
     |        (;()   ();)      baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca          :
     :         :   ^   :       baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca          |
     |          \ ... /       Little green men from Mars?         :
     :            ---                    Never!                   |    
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Xref: sparky comp.robotics:3012 sci.electronics:23185
From: bencze@seismo.CSS.GOV (Robert Bencze)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics,sci.electronics
Subject: PC- board identification
Keywords: Adaptec
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:37:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.robotics
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA


I came into posession of a hard disk controller card by Adaptec and
I would like to get some info on it. The model appears to be
	408106-00  ACB-207

and it has an Adapted bios of 408100K  (1987 copyright date)

What kind of a controller is it? It appears to be either MFM or RLL,
could it possibly be an ESDI controller? Any info, (including jumper settings,
or a phone number for adaptec,) would be greatly appreciated...


boB benczE
From: awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca (Majik)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Wanted 6.270 Robot controller boards...
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:42:57 GMT
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston

If anyone is in the process of selling, shipping, ordering etc. 
the 6270 robot controller boards, then puh-lease drop me a line.

Thanks,
Andrew Williams
-- 
Keeper of the Tale of Sam the Hydra Slayer. For details email request to:
   
                     awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca
From: goldberg@tumbler.usc.edu (Ken Goldberg)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Desktop NC Mills
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:52:25 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tumbler.usc.edu


Is it possible to buy a small-scale (desktop) 4-axis milling machine
that has an NC interface (preferably RS-232)?  The XY travel requirement
is about 10x10 cm^2, and the Z axis should travel at least 3cm.  The
precision does not have to be very high;  .01 inch would be acceptable.
I'll post any leads that I get to this group.

-- 
Ken Goldberg | goldberg@usc.edu | (213) 740-9080 | 208 Powell Hall,  USC
Asst. Prof of Computer Science and EE-Systems    | LA, CA 90089-0273 USA
From: graesserac@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Re: Tracked mobile robot dead-reckoning
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:46:19 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1993Jan27.041520.7120@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, shane@cs.sunysb.edu (Shane Bouslough) writes:
> graesserac@memstvx1.memst.edu wrote:
> 
> : This would imply the robot has an internal representation of its environment
> 
> and also
> 
> : Of course, I haven't done this, but it strikes me as similar to Rodney 
> : Brook's method in a few of his subsumption architecture robots...
> 
> Perhaps I'm mistaken, but from what I've read of Brooks, that's exactly the
> *opposite* of what subsumption achitecture does. I thought his idea was let
> the environment tell you where you are, and don't use an internal
> representation at all. The net, as usual, will correct me if I'm wrong :-).
> 
> I believe one paper was titled "Planning is just a way of avoiding figuring
> out what to do next."
> 
> : Mark C. Langston
> : langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (still inop)
> : graesserac@memstvx1.memst.edu (my prof's, I'm reachable via it)
> : fugue@mindvox.phantom.com (but I don't check this every day)
> 
> -Shane
> 
> --
> Shane Bouslough       | #include <stddisc.h>
> shane@sbcs.sunysb.edu | "Follow your bliss" - Joseph Campbell


I think you misunderstood.  I was using internal representation as a 
_CONTRAST_ to using vectors derived from sensory input to navigate,
a 'la Brooks.  I didn't realize I was being vague.

-mark langsotn



Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: abrown@hpcvcec.cv.hp.com (Allen Brown)
Subject: Re: Crazy about legs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:51:48 GMT

: There are lots of lists of Electronics/Motor suppliers around, but
: what about other hardware? Aluminum stock for legs, chassis, etc?
: -Shane "I wanna build a critter" Bouslough

I am starting on a similar critter:  6 legs, 3 degrees freedom/leg,
6811.  I plan to use epoxy-fiberglass for structural components such
as the body and legs.  Strength to mass should be better than metal.
It is fairly easy to work with.  Repairs are easy.

I have been learning fiberglass fabrication by building a boat.  The
critter comes next.
--
  Allen C. Brown  abrown@cv.hp.com or hplabs!hpcvca!abrown or "Hey you!"
      Not representing my employer.
    I am not an actor, but I play one on television.