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From: dewind@acsu.buffalo.edu (Padraig)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Sandman
Keywords: Sandman, DC
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:02:20 GMT
Organization: UB

I've got a weird question...

I've been reading this comic book called Sandman about Morpheus.  A
while ago I heard that this dude is pretty popular with musicians (for
instance one of Tori Amos' songs is about him).  And I was wondering
if any of you out there in Metallicaland know if this comic was any
influence on the writing of the song Enter Sandman?

Just wondering....

  -Padriag

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From: freibeu@ze8.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Jochen Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Metallica covered!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 09:49:46 +0100
Organization: Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf, Germany
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Summary: Cover of 'Nothing else matters' seen on MTV
Keywords: cover, MTV, nothing else matters

Hi there,
last evening I saw a cover version of Metallica's 'Nothing Else Matters'
on emptyVEurope. It was featured on '120 minutes' (indie music) by
a band called 'Die Krupps'. (P.King pronounced 'dee kroopps') The music
sounded like a mixture of Sisters of Mercy singing and Kraftwerk 
instruments.

Has anyone heard of this? Has anyone heard the album 'A tribute to
Metallica' by them? What other songs are covered?

Any info appreciated.
Jochen

PS: I know, Metallica is best and that's it. Go ahead an flame me. See if I care
From: c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: MetallicA Shows
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:14:54 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, N.J.  07764

Metllica will be playing near Charleston, South Carolina, on February 17th.

I believe at the Civic center.

Anybody have tour dates for any other cities?  Please post.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Subject: Re: The older stuff
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:56:44 GMT

In article <HXawwB2w165w@entropy.mcds.com> whiplash@entropy.mcds.com (Whiplash) writes:
>Well there are too many people who are still interested in the old 
>Metallica, the way I see it, let's see what they do in the next album, I 
>didn't think this last one was their best, but I think that after 
>experimenting with the more accessible stuff on this album, they will 
>resort to their older heavier roots. time will tell.

Experimenting with more accessible stuff?  Personally, I believe that
they weren't simply "experimenting", but that they became more
commerciallized as many good bands tend to do after a while.  Their next
album might be a little bit better, but I doubt that it could ever be as
good as their older stuff.  Anyway, I wish I had as much faith in
Metallica as you seem to have.

-Roy
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: whiplash@cs.montana.edu (Mike Wagner)
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the CD singles...?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:52:51 GMT

Yeah, I've got some shit to say about the "Wherever I may Roam"  CD 'single'
(There's 2 versions - #1, #2)  This one has Roam and the kick in the teeth end
of the Tushino Airfield gig in Moscow on Sep 28, 91.  It's a pile of last
caress/am i evil/batterey that is more powerful and faster than any shit
I've heard on any legal Metallica CD.  Especially Am I Evil and the end of 
Batterey!  My other faveorite single is Sad But True - you get So what and
another killer song from the Moscow gig - Harvester of Sorrow - also a kick 
ass version.   anyone else?

Mike

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:25:19 EST
From: Dave Gerber <DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,pa.wanted
Subject: WANTED: Metallica Hershey Tix

I am looking for any extra tickets to the Metallica concert at Hersheypark
Arena on January 26.  I have several friends who would like to go, but
didn't get tickets.  If you have any that you would like to sell, please
send me e-mail, or give me a call.  My e-mail address and phone number are
listed below.  Thanks!
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the CD singles...?
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 09:37:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.183900.7970@midway.uchicago.edu> cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>This is not a flame, just honest curiosity; how can you be so pissed off
>at these guys and still feel that you have to buy *everything* they put
>out?

I buy the singles because I love the covers and demo versions which are
included.  Obviously, their attitudes on selling out and pleasing the
fans have drastically changed.  When they recorded a bunch of covers 6
or 7 years ago, they could have made a lot more money by saving them
and putting one on each single.  But instead, they decided to release
them on a low-priced e.p. called Garage Days Re-Revisited.  Obviously,
this was done for the fans because they were pre-labeled with low price
stickers: "The $5.98 e.p. Pay No More!" ($9.98 cd).  Lately, however,
it seems like they'd rather milk their dedicated fans dry, releasing the
bonus tracks one or two at a time on each over-priced single.

>I'm under the impression that the band is just responding to their fans;
>if you look at all the gazillions of bootlegs out there, it is obvious
>that the fans want more product, so why not give it to them and at least
>be sure that it is decently (if roughly, as in "So What") produced.

I am not against the band putting out stuff, I'm just against the way
they do it, putting one or two good tracks on dozens of singles rather
than all on a single disc, as they would probably would have done
several years ago.


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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cjt1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Ten Brink)
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the CD singles...?
Reply-To: cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:39:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.082724.28286@csus.edu> roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.) writes:
>As you said, the cover songs are great.  But I'm really getting annoyed
>by the multitudes of singles which are being released from this album.  Did
>they have to release two versions of the Wherever I May Roam cd single?
>They could have easily combined the tracks onto one single, but IMO
>success has turned Metallica into a bunch of money-grubbing bastards. 

>And of course, as the avid Metallica
>collecter that I am, I'll have to dish out the bucks so that my
>collection won't be incomplete.  Sigh...
>
>
>Disclaimer: All of previous message _IMHO_.  Flames are welcomed, however.
>-Roy

This is not a flame, just honest curiosity; how can you be so pissed off
at these guys and still feel that you have to buy *everything* they put
out?  I just bought the Wembley cd collection (four singles, plus a live
take from their performance at the Freddy Mercury memorial concert--it
also includes 8x10 glossies of each of the guys.)  It was outrageously
overpriced, but it's not like I was *compelled* to buy it, and I don't
begrudge their putting it out.

I'm under the impression that the band is just responding to their fans;
if you look at all the gazillions of bootlegs out there, it is obvious
that the fans want more product, so why not give it to them and at least
be sure that it is decently (if roughly, as in "So What") produced.

And speaking of weird stuff, does anyone know where I can get a cd copy
of "The Good, the Bad, the Singles" set?  Was that distributed in this 
country at all?  If I can't find the "Re-Re-Visited" ep used on cd, this
may be my only choice.
--Chuck


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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: bjh5218@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: "Harvester of Sorrow" 12" single for sale
Reply-To: bjh5218@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:02:58 GMT

I'll buy it for $ 10 bucks....Let me know..
From: jlassen@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jeremy M. Lassen)
Subject: Metallica/Ben Stiller Show
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:25:25 GMT
Distribution: global

	Did anybody see the Interview Parody featuring Metallica, on the
Jan 3rd episode of the Ben Stiller Show?  It was good for a laugh, although
I was a little uncomfortable with the way they potrayed lars, and James as
your typical head in the clouds, doped out spinal tap-ish metal dudes, but
thats what they get for making videos, and jumping into the eMpTyV seen.
It seemed to be in good fun,anyway, and the parody of the enter sandman video,
with the strobe camera was priceless...  wish I had it on tape!
				See Ya

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall)
Subject: Re: Songs on Kill'em All Album
    <1993Jan12.160846.190924@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:35:43 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

bstrohma@zeus.calpoly.edu (brian d strohman) writes:

>Regarding Columbia House not including Blitzkrieg and Whiplash on their
>"record club" CD:  The _original_ album did _not_ include those two
>songs.  Those songs were added to the RE-release of Kill 'em All
>(at least that's how I was informed by a friend of mine who has
>the _original_ Kill 'em All cassette).  Hope this helps.  If not, flame
>away!!!

No, the original Kill 'em All did not have Blitzkreig or Am I Evil. It did have
Whiplash, however... As stated before, Am I Evil and Blitzkreig originally 
appeared in Metallica form on an EP with Creeping Death, aptly titled 'Creeping
Death'. This three track EP was also called Garage Days Re-Visited, hence the 
title of the later re-re-visited EP with Newstead.

biswick.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: pnhrab00@nx16.mik.uky.edu (Peter N. Hrabak)
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the CD singles...?
Reply-To: alt.skate-board
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:12:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.191515.8296@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
rchabot@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:
> 
> Yo Metallikatz!
> 
> Anybody have an opinion on the CD singles that have been released along  
with 
> the black album?
> 
> Specifically, the B-sides of "Sad But True" ("So What") and "The  
Unforgiven" 
> ("Killing Time")...I think these cover songs show that the band still  
has fire 
> in them, regardless of what the black album sounds like.  (INMO, the  
black 
> album is more of a result of B. Crock than the band itself.)  Maybe they  
should
> release a "B-side" complilation (ala Anthrax couple years ago) -- and  
include 
> "The Prince", a tune I have yet to hear...
> 
> Later,
> 
> RC
> 
> P.S.  Is "The Prince" available only as an import?  If it's anything  
like 
> "Breadfan," I will seek it out...


The covers kick ass!!  Metallica has a history of covertunes, for example  
Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg on Kill 'Em All (originally on the 1st Garage  
Days), Garage Days Re-Re-visited, and with Breadfan and the Prince, and  
now with the B-Sides for the black album...  They are gracious for their  
inspirations in the beginning of their career, and are now paying tribute  
by way of the covers, I think.

And if you haven't heard The Prince, it, along with Breadfan are their  
best cover songs EVER.  And they're botha vailable on the Harvester of  
Sorrow CD single, which is an import, I think.  I remember The Prince also  
being the b-side to One on cassingle, I think.  They're both worth seeking  
out.

-Pete, the man without a .sig...
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: ehrhart@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeffrey Ehrhart)
Subject: Concert Songlist
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 19:28:16 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: 
  I'm going to see Metallica on the 29th (LaCrosse, Wisc).  Could someone

please post the songlist from their fall dates?  I'm trying to give my
friend a crash course in Metallica, and I can remember the set from 
the "...And Justice For All" tour.

Thanks,

-- 
Jeff Ehrhart
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: chl@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Carsten Lechte)
Subject: Re: Metallica covered!
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:54:09 GMT
Keywords: cover, MTV, nothing else matters

freibeu@ze8.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Jochen Stein) writes:

>Hi there,
>last evening I saw a cover version of Metallica's 'Nothing Else Matters'
>on emptyVEurope. It was featured on '120 minutes' (indie music) by
>a band called 'Die Krupps'. (P.King pronounced 'dee kroopps') The music
>sounded like a mixture of Sisters of Mercy singing and Kraftwerk 
>instruments.

It wasnt the first time for Die Krupps to cover Metallica. On their 
_Germaniac 2001_ single there is a live version of _One_ - interesting...
with lots of cool American newsreaders citing such elements of American
military history as "We've never lost a war, we've come where our country
has called us" or telling their GIs not to make contact with the Germans
(Die Krupps move the story
of the song into the second world war, introducing the subject of Nazi war
madness).
The song does quite change its character, to say the least :-)

--
Viele Gruesse, Carsten Lechte.
D-W-2000 Norderstedt, Germany
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the CD singles...?
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:27:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.191515.8296@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rchabot@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert J Chabot) writes:
>
>Yo Metallikatz!
>
>Anybody have an opinion on the CD singles that have been released along with 
>the black album?

As you said, the cover songs are great.  But I'm really getting annoyed
by the multitudes of singles which are being released from this album.  Did
they have to release two versions of the Wherever I May Roam cd single?
They could have easily combined the tracks onto one single, but IMO
success has turned Metallica into a bunch of money-grubbing bastards.  You
might say that the record company is more at fault but how come there are so
few singles from the other albums (back in the good old days when Metallica
didn't give a shit about singles & videos)?  If Metallica still cared
about the fans, I'm sure they would have released all the recent covers
on a Garage Days-type ep, rather than try to rip everyone off with tons
of singles and import cd's only available in other countries.  Come to
think about it, I bet they will release such an ep or collection in
order to make more money.  And of course, as the avid Metallica
collecter that I am, I'll have to dish out the bucks so that my
collection won't be incomplete.  Sigh...


Disclaimer: All of previous message _IMHO_.  Flames are welcomed, however.
-Roy
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  /                                         \     in a stud leather band
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the CD singles...?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:51:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.101803.23740@csus.edu> roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.) writes:
>
>My point is that up until this album, Metallica, following along the
>lines of Led Zeppelin & other bands before them, didn't let the record
>companies run them and get away with all these marketing ploys and
>"gimmicks", to quote your own words.
>
>This unfortunate fact about Metallica bothers me more than the
>fact that they released a more "accessible" album.
>
I don't know a lot about the ins and outs of recording deals and who gets 
more control. All we can do is just guess...

>>The earlier albums didn't have loads of singles taken off them because most
>>of them (up to and including Master of Puppets unless I'm mistaken) were on
>						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>smaller, independent labels, which generally don't go in for cynical marketing
>>ploys - another clue that it may be the company rather than the band. And
>>anyway, most of the songs off earlier albums weren't exactly chart fodder...
>
>You _are_ mistaken -- Metallica signed a contract with Elektra Records on
>September 12, 1984.  Elektra re-released Ride The Lightning two months
>later, and released all subsequent albums.
>
Hmm, could have sworn 'Master' was on MFN... but then I've only got the...umm..
'TDK remix' so I'll have to take your word for it. Whatever - up until AJFA,
Metallica were probably considered a 'cult' band, but now that they have 
achieved mainstream popularity, I wouldn't be surprised if the record company
was trying to muscle in with a harder sell. Plus, as I said, singles sales are
dropping and most record companies are using more and more gimmicks to boost
sales as a matter of course. But then again, like I said, I'm sure the band
aren't complaining *too* loudly...

>
>If you really want the bonus tracks & stuff, e-mail me & we can work
>something out.
>
Thanks for the offer, but considering I live in the UK, it would probably be a
bit difficult to arrange...

Mike
From: kaya@mscf.med.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Tour dates....HELP (pleez)
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:56:53 GMT
Organization: Univ of Penn - Med School Computer Facility

Does anybody know what the schedule is for the current leg of the tour?
Caught the show in the Point, Dublin, and I just have to see go again before
the end of the tour. I'll be on the East Coast (Phila, PA) till the 20th,
then SF, CA till the 25th, then back to Dublin.

adTHANKSvance

Nick (c/o Angie)
From: jtauer@ub.d.umn.edu (Jim J. Tauer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Songs on Kill'em All Album
Date: 10 Jan 1993 18:28:45 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

I recently purchased a Metallica 'Kill'em All' CD from Columbia House, and it
seems to be missing some songs.  I was almost positive that this CD included
the songs "Am I Evil?" and "Blitzkrieg"... Any idea why these songs were cut
from this CD?

-Jim
jtauer@ub.d.umn.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: Sheri Mathos <Sheri_Mathos@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Is there a Metallica digest??
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 12:55:00 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Before the holidays someone out there gave me an E-mail address to get on
the
mailing list for a weekly digest.  I mailed but haven't recieved
anything.  Can
anyone help me out with more information??

Thanks,

Sheri
From: fusion@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Rocket Scientist)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica box sets?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 04:12:47 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.) writes:

>	Black Box 1
>	Black Box 2

>Can anyone tell me which cd's are in each set, what extra stuff is
>included (any booklets?), and how much does each cost?  Also, did I
>leave any sets out?

Well, I'm not quite sure which of the 'black box' sets I have, but I'll
assume it's the first.  It has 3 patches, 3 bumperstickers, a 'damaged
justice' pendant, a skull pin, and the following cd's:

Creeping Death/Jump In the Fire
Garage Days Re-revisited
One single
Harvester of Sorrow single
Enter Sandman single

Plus a little card telling you which set out of 4000 it is.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cjt1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Ten Brink)
Subject: Re: Any opinions on the CD singles...?
Reply-To: cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:34:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.225251.6730@coe.montana.edu> whiplash@cs.montana.edu (Mike Wagner) writes:
>Yeah, I've got some shit to say about the "Wherever I may Roam"  CD 'single'
>(There's 2 versions - #1, #2)  This one has Roam and the kick in the teeth end
>of the Tushino Airfield gig in Moscow on Sep 28, 91.  It's a pile of last
>caress/am i evil/batterey that is more powerful and faster than any shit
>I've heard on any legal Metallica CD.  Especially Am I Evil and the end of 
>Batterey!  My other faveorite single is Sad But True - you get So what and
>another killer song from the Moscow gig - Harvester of Sorrow - also a kick 
>ass version.   anyone else?

Normally I don't indulge in "me too" posts, but I've just got to second this
one.  I'd even go so far as to draw some flames by saying that I think this
version of Battery is better than the original.  (It's still ringing in my
head; I listened to it full volume just before leaving for work this am.)
--Chuck


-- 
D'Angelo Law Library         "The dogmas of the quiet past are
cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu      inadequate to the stormy present. . .
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