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From: z_kennedypc@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: New and Uninformed
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:15:07 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hi,
I am new to roller blading and when I say new I just picked them up this
afternoon.  I have a few questions.

1. Other than wrist guards, elbow and knee pads, and a helmet( the only thing I
don't have coming), is there anything else I should be looking for?
2. My skates have the ability to rocker the wheels.  What does this mean?

Any suggestions at all would be nice.  I have never been able to take the time
to roller skate and I hoped that finally owning{a pair of skates would force me
to finally learn.  Is it easw3ier to roller skate than roller blade?

I apologize for all the questions.  Thanks.

Paul Kennedy (New and abused(by the skates))
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: A question about speed!!!
Date: 15 Aug 92 19:06:57 GMT
	<1992Aug7.150323.3303@desire.wright.edu>
	<1992Aug10.174112.1446@advtech.uswest.com> <Gma-T++@engin.umich.edu>
Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: dcchan@engin.umich.edu's message of Mon, 10 Aug 92 19:57:50 EDT

In article <Gma-T++@engin.umich.edu> dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan) writes:

     I'm curoius, do quad-skaters like hill-riding as much as in-liners 
   seem to?  I heard a story of a really great quad skater (darnit, I can't
   rememeber his name) who did hills backwards at night, and one unfortunate
   night he nailed a rock or whatever and went flying.  Alas, he did not have
   a helmet on and even though he survived, he no longer skates...and wonders 
   why his doctor recommends he doesn't try out this activity..

I think digging this type of skating is really a function of the
skater not so much the equipment, but of course, they are correlated.
Personally I think this type of skating is a complete turn off. For
me, skating is a type of dancing in a fairly restricted area -- except
when I couple skate with my wife. By the way, are there any other
married skaters who met while skating?




From another perspective,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: 80 mm wheel on Aeroblade....
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 15:41:06 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

They can be installed. I did it once. It caused a slight problem, though.
Since the space between the top of the wheel and the sole of the boot is
reduced, debris is more likely to get caught in that space. I had a small
pebble get caught there. It wore a deep groove in my rear wheel in the
same manner that a lathe cuts through wood. Also, having your wheels
lock on you can make you lose your balance.
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Yet Another Wheel Question...
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:17:51 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <42090024@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites) writes:
> | Warning - net.wisdom has it that some of the lightweight, spoked hub designs
> | may be a little too wimpy for big, strong skaters or aggressive, abrupt 
> | skating such as roller hockey.
> 
> A small follow up on the term 'abrupt'.  The ONLY time I've heard of anyone
> blowing out a lightweight hub is from a guy 'trapping' on the edge of 
> a curb, and some other big guy landing hard after catching some air.
> 
> For aggressive/abrupt stuff, I'm not sure hockey is in the same catagory, but
> it's still something to consider.

We had some personal testimony a while back from someone who had tried these
for roller (street?) hockey and found that by mid-game that he had several
broken hubs.  This was shortly after the light weight hubs were introduced and
they may have changed the design since.

It's just a warning to consider the issues - even ignoring kids, there's almost
a 2-1 weight range for skaters and some will typically emploly easy, rolling
skating while others will do more stomp and thrust.

Similar issues attend to occasional blown out hubs on non-lightweight wheels,
whether brand-x wheels are great or suck and whether rockering skates is a
good thing.   It depends as much on the skater, their style and expectations
as the equipment.
k
From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: looking for LARGE pads (elbow,knee) and helmet
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:19:25 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN


I've asked this question on alt.skateboard, and am asking it here.

Being 6'5" and 220 pounds (196cm 100 Kg) I am finding it hard to obtain
knee pads, elbow pads, and helmet that fit me comfortably.

I am more than open to suggestions.

Currently, I have a Pro-Tec helmet, Rector Protector elbow pads,
and Rector Fat Boys knee pads.  These are all size LARGE, and
what it would appear I need (but cannot find) are size EXTRA LARGE.

Please send replies by e-mail, as well as posting to the group, or
I can summarize if you prefer.

Thanks,

Ed

(as you may have guessed, I am a skateboarder, but I assume that
 the kinds of protection are really interchangeable, whether the
 manufacturers and their marketing people believe so or not)

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From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: skating and economy
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:42:01 GMT
Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: brown@quorum.com's message of 14 Aug 92 15:26:04 GMT

In article <brown.713805964@quorum.com> brown@quorum.com (Robert E. Brown) writes:


   The people I talked to who went to the national roller skating competition in
   Lincoln, Nebraska last week seemed disappointed with the quality of the
   skating they saw.  One person attributed it to the recession -- after all,
   lessons and equipment are not cheap.  Less money for skating means fewer
   lessons and less practicing.  Has anyone noticed a similar trend in the ice
   skating world?  Ice lessons and rink time are generally much more expensive
   than roller lessons, so one might expect a greater cutback in practice time
   and lessons among ice skaters ... leading to a decline in performance levels.

This may be a time-delay effect. It may be due to the nadir of roller
skating interest after the "disco" era. I think this nadir was several
years ago. Roller skating has been picking up interest because of
inlines and the fact that roller skating is a cheap thing to do
compared to "clubbing". At the Tyngsboro rink, attendance in the past two
years has been up. This cyclic interest must have a time delay effect at the
competitive level.
From: hall@graffias.cs.umbc.edu (Marty Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: FAQ: Bearing maintenance
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:31:30 GMT
Organization: AAI Corp AI Lab, UMBC CS Department


>                       THE BEARING MAINTENANCE FILE
>                       ----------------------------
>                           (written May 2, 1992)
>                         (last changed May 23, 1992)
>                      Compiled and edited by Tony Chen
[...]
>Bearings are rated on the ABEC [stands for?] scale.
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Annular Bearing Engineering Council", according to a catalog
from Inline USA.
					- Marty
(proclaim '(inline skates))
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: SSDC2@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: Performance Catalog/Shop info
News-Software: tBRUNO v0.9
Disclaim1: Brown University accepts no responsibility for the
Disclaim2: contents of this article.  Please do not sue us!
Organization: Brown University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:44:42 GMT

>From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
>
>        Also, Performance has a reputation of getting things to you FAST.  I
>usually get things in 2-3 days with normal shipping.
>        Their guarantee is NOT limited to 30 days.  If you're ever unhappy,
>send it back.  No restocking fee either.
>       I can't recommend this place enough.  (Too bad I don't work for them, I
>could probably get paid for that :)

i'll second this recommendation! i've ordered from Performance and the
shipment arrives in 2-3 days! they were out of stock on a few items when
i called, but at least told me and didn't let me order them anyway. the
prices are decent too. i also returned something that didn't fit right
and received notice that my card had been credited within a couple days.
(still gotta check that visa bill!). no complaints here, check 'em out!

Janice :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: "Performance" Vector Inline Skates?
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:26:32 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <AeW09tW00WBNI3VfBx@andrew.cmu.edu>, Claire Rene Palmgren <cp0k+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> I'm in the market for some inline skates.  I just received the latest
> catalog from Performance Bike Shop.  They are selling a skate they claim
> has features of skates which sell for >200 for $129.  
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with the Performance Vector skates?

	Not with the skates, but I've bought Performance brand stuff for years. 
It is very good quality.  They sell for less because they don't have to
advertise like Rollerblade/etc.  They have their own stores and catalogs.  Kind
of the LL Bean of sports.

	BTW-I'll post the Performance address and phone numbers as soon as I
get home.  They're also having a sale on their pads.

Brett                                                      
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From: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Rollerblading
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:17:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


  
I'm thinking of taking up rollerblading mainly for the exercise. I'm basically
a cyclist but I'd like something different. Problem is none of the women I
work out with know anything about skating.
  
Can somebody suggest how much I should expect to pay for my first pair
of skates? Is there a particular brand/model you'd recommend? What kind
of store do I go to? A sporting goods shop? Hockey/ice skate shop?
Zayre's or a similar general merchandiser?
  
How do I get started? Just lace 'em on and see what happens? Where should
I go to skate? Any 'ol road without a lot of traffic?
  
Anything else I need to know?
  
Thanks for any advice.
  
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: lauten@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Lautenbacher)
Subject: Re: Any Good In-Line Video's Available?
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:34:33 GMT

Hi Cecil,

cecilw@access.isc-br.com (Cecil Williams) writes:
> I remember seeing someone asking for information on in-line
> skating videos here a few weeks back, but I didn't see any response.
> If anyone has any information on videos of basic or especially advanced 
> blading technique (now that I've been skating 3 whole months (-; ...)
> would you be kind enough to (re?)post it? Thanks!

Just the other day I have received my new pair of Rollerblade (RB)
"Lightning TRS" via mail delivery. Along with the skates came a small
booklet on the RB product line and some advertising material. Among
that there was a leaflet promoting a video called INLINE made by some
CA based studio for RB. Unfortunately I've already thrown away the
leaflet. Here is what I can remember about the video:

   * Contents: - Gearing Up
     	         - Basic Skating
               - Stopping Techniques
               - Advanced Skating
	         - Tricks on Inlines
               - ???????
   * Length: 50min
   * Price: $19.95 + ~ $5 for shipping/handling
   * Order: via phone
	      (sorry, I can't remember the #, but it was a 800 #, which
            I guess is free for you, isn't it ?; you should investigate
            with RB Corp. - who's phone # I don't have either - about
            how to order; I guess getting hold of the relevant phone #s
            should not be such a problem for someone living in the US)

There is also a book called "Wheel Excitement" from RB which some kind
soul of the net donated me a few months ago. The book starts out at a
very low level but addresses also some of the advanced artistic skating
stuff, however not in great detail. Depending on how advanced you are
you may find that of more or less use.

Hope this helps,
                MARKUS

As usual in such a case, let me finally mention that I am not
affiliated in any way with RB Corp. I am just passing on information to
a fellow skater.



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From: wanderer@athena.mit.edu (Opus)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Ice skate linings?
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:55:59 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I was wondering.. does anyone sell ice skate linings?? Mine are all
messed up, although I still like the skates (and can't afford new ones)
I can't find any store that sells parts of ice skates though, besides the
blades!

(these are linings for the hard plastic skates, or whatever they';re made
of)

thanks!
From: jimy@hkn.Berkeley.EDU (Jim Young)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Need advice on speed skates
Date: 14 Aug 1992 23:46:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hkn.berkeley.edu

This is directed at all the inline speed skaters out there.
I need some advice..  My Nidjam Roadrunners have stretched a bit
and no longer fit tightly enough, so I'm looking for a new pair of
skates.

I'd like your opinions on:

1) Whether I should get soft or hard boots.  Right now I'm debating 
whether to get Vikings or Bonts.  Most of my skating friends have
soft boots, but I'd like to practice my form on the ice too, and I've
been told by most people that using Vikings on the ice is a VERY bad
idea.

2) Which frames should I buy?  I don't have an infinite budget, so the
I-5's look rather attractive to me right now.  However, they're not
rockered.  Does anyone out there know exactly which frames are rockered
and which aren't?

3) Where should I buy them?  I live in Berkeley, and I know people at
Karim, Courtesy Sports, and SkatePro  personally.  Are there other 
places in the country that have better deals?

4) Does anyone out there want to buy my skates?  They are size 42 or so
(8 1/2 US) and in pretty good condition.  I'd be interested in any
reasonable offer.  I think Karim is selling them for somewhere around $400
(not including wheels + bearings).  This is my favorite pair of skates;
they're very fast and also very maneuverable (very short frame), but, alas,
they don't fit any longer.

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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: davidw@vista.atmos.uiuc.edu (David Wojtowicz)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Bearing maintenance
Organization: Atmospheric Science at Univ of Ill at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:59:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.001223.23926@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>I've been skating on in-lines for two years, and I've never understood
>why skaters clean bearings. My preference is to buy a new set once per
>year, and discard the old.
>
>Cleaning used bearings is like recharging a dying auto battery. Once
>it starts to go bad, you know it's going to go bad again, so why
>put off the inevitable? Do you really want to spend half a day restoring
>used bearings?
>
>Just buy new ones, and be done with it. 
>

Well, the obvious reason would be cost.  Bearings only go about 70-150
miles (depending on how you treat them and their quality) before
needing maintainence or replacement.  Some skaters easily do this much
in a month.  The idea of dropping $30-50 bucks a month on new bearings
doesn't look real attractive to many people.



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Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kiwong@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kinsley Wong)
Subject: Size 8 to 9 used Inline-skates wanted.....
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:43:45 GMT

I am posting this message for my friend, please reply to me or his Email at
              		kwright@morpheus.calpoly.edu

He is looking for a pair of inline-skates size 8 to 9 with buckles similar to 
the Rollerblades Lightning Model.  He would like to get a used pair.  Please
contact us if you are upgrading your skates and would like to get rid of your
old pair cheap.


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From: cecilw@access.isc-br.com (Cecil Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Any Good In-Line Video's Available?
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:49:39 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA


> (Cecil Williams) writes:
>> I remember seeing someone asking for information on in-line
>> skating videos here a few weeks back, but I didn't see any response.
>> ...stuff deleted...

(Markus Lautenbacher) writes:
>Just the other day I have received my new pair of Rollerblade (RB)
>"Lightning TRS" via mail delivery. Along with the skates came a small
>booklet on the RB product line and some advertising material. Among
>that there was a leaflet promoting a video called INLINE made by some
>CA based studio for RB. Unfortunately I've already thrown away the
>leaflet. Here is what I can remember about the video:
>
>   * Contents: - Gearing Up
>     	         - Basic Skating
>               - Stopping Techniques
>               - Advanced Skating
>	         - Tricks on Inlines
>               - ???????
>   * Length: 50min
>   * Price: $19.95 + ~ $5 for shipping/handling
>   * Order: via phone
>	      (sorry, I can't remember the #, but it was a 800 #, which
>            I guess is free for you, isn't it ?; you should investigate
>            with RB Corp. - who's phone # I don't have either - about
>            how to order; I guess getting hold of the relevant phone #s
>            should not be such a problem for someone living in the US)
>
>There is also a book called "Wheel Excitement" from RB which some kind
>soul of the net donated me a few months ago. The book starts out at a
>very low level but addresses also some of the advanced artistic skating
>stuff, however not in great detail. Depending on how advanced you are
>you may find that of more or less use.
>
>Hope this helps,
>                MARKUS
>

Thanks for the info, Markus.

I called 800 information (1-800-555-1212) and got the number for
Rollerblade in Minneapolis (1-800-622-5233), and they gave me the
number for "Inline" (1-800-528-8800) who sells this video.  The price
is $19.98+ several dollars shipping and 2-4 weeks delivery.  I bet I
can sell it to my local video store for a profit when I get through
watching it....  They have lots of skateboard and BMX videos for rent,
and NO in-line videos! (-:


Cecil
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: ferrer@rtsg.mot.com (Arnold S. Ferrer)
Subject: Request for FAQ.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:29:01 GMT

Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? Is so could someone
please send me a copy or point me in the right direction.
Thanks.

-arnold
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: FAQ: In-line Stopping Techniques
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 02:58:26 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

Dave,

Your description of the power slide differs from the way Jack Murphey
taught me how to do it last year. You suggest it be learned and done
in two steps. (1) turn. (2) extend the free leg.

Jack's method involves one continuous motion: Skate forward on an
outside edge, while extending the free leg to the side. All weight is
on the skating leg. The free leg that is extended is dragged along the
ground. Now sharpen the turn on the outside edge of the skating leg
(with its knee greatly bent), and swing the free leg in front. This
continuous transition causes the skating leg to turn, so it's now
skating in reverse.

Jack's method is identical to what I've seen Team RollerBlade do in
their videos. Nevertheless, I did have one other instructor who
taught your method.

I prefer Jack's method because I believe it is safer. It is safer
because often you need not go into a complete power slide to stop.
Only at higher speeds is it necessary to completely turn the skating
foot, so that its wheels are now moving in reverse. Also, there is
less risk of catching the free leg on an uneven surface because it
is already extended and dragging before you swing the free leg in
front of your line of travel.

Your power slide style seems more risky because it is an all-or-nothing
routine. You have to completely turn before extending the free leg,
which means you have to completely turn before any breaking action
can begin. I would hate to turn, and then catch my free leg on some
uneven pavement. That could spell disaster.

Jack's method is not an all-or-nothing routine. At any point in the
continuous motion, you can abort if something is going wrong.

Let me emphasize that in Jack's method all weight must be on the
skating leg. If you place any weight on the free leg, you will go
into a spin and lose control.

Thanks for the excellent FAQ's. Publish them in a paperback book,
and try to make some profit.
From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:24:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Are the Switchit skates any good?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO