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From: 8809787l@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: ENCYCLOPEDIA IRANICA
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:37:18 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

Salam Doostan aziz

I have in the past looked at a number of books on IRANIAN history { time
permiting I will post a list of these either to the SCI or individuals
intrested }. As I have seen recent disscusion on THE CAMBRIDGE HISTORY OF IRAN
and related topics on history books on SCI I would very much like to bring up
a very interesting publication presently under way.

The publication which I am refering to is the ENCYCLOPEDIA IRANICA, published
by MAZDA Publications in the US. This encyclopedia is published presently
section by section until complete. This is a project undertaken by the Center
for Iranian Studies at Columbia University in New York and was began in 1973. I
have seen a sample of parts of it as I have a broucher which I received from
MAZDA publications. The cyclopedia is in alphabetic order and covers all things
relating to IRANIAN culture, history, art, geography etc. It is presently been
completed from A to C and the other volumes will be published in coming years.

As this is some thing new and existing for me I would like to know more about
this project under taken at Columbia Uni and hope that there is some one
amongest you who may be able to assist me.

For those interested to know the address for MAZDA publications as they also
publish many other books on IRAN here is the address

			MAZDA Publications
			P.O. Box 2603
			Costa Mesa
			CA 92626  U.S.A.

Also do not hezitate to contact me personaly on e-mail. 

Khoda negahdar
Peyam Pourbeik

P.S. I was also woundering if info on IRAN such as those found in such
publications as the Encyclopedia Iranica may be available online at sites such
as Columbia Uni as it has an Iranian Studies Center.
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Back , Hi all
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:32:27 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi fellas , guys and gals ,

I was off to a lil vacation and just got back and apperantly lost about 100
or more articles. As I was going through some of the ones from last week, I
was furiously disgusted by back to back garbage talk by some posters like BS
and AJ. When do you guys want to take a bite of the grown-up's world ?
 
For those who were partying last week for thinking that you got rid of me ,
I should say " Sorry homeboys , I am back . "

Ramin

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From: mnejat@telesoft.com (Mehregan Nejat @lone)
Subject: Re: More Iranian sports trivia (By Kamran Iranpour)
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:13:12 GMT

In <7g#npvc.bavafa@netcom.com> bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:

>>6- In 1972 Olympics in Munchen an Iranian weight lifter won the silver
>>medal in 72kg, He was from Khouzestan , what was his name?

>Now, this must be a secretarial error.  If you mean Nassiri it was the 56 Kg
>division known as Bantamweight or in Persian 'khoroos-vazn.'

I think the name was Habibi or something like that.  

--Mehregan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: rooholam@point.cs.uwm.edu (Mo Rooholamini)
Subject: Re: Azad University
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:35:06 GMT

In article <BszB4p.4tL@acsu.buffalo.edu> bashir@acsu.buffalo.edu (Noushin Bashir) writes:

>Hi Ala,
>
>As I remember, people who go to Azad university don't get an official
>degree. Would you know if that is still the case? 
>

No.  The degrees offered now are official (at least for most degrees
I know about).

>And would you know how much the cuurent tutions are? 
>

Depends on the area of study.  Dentistry which is one of the 
highest (even more than medicine) is about 175,000 Tomans/semester,
or 350,000 Toman/year.  This is the only tution I know about.

Mo
>						Just curious,
>						Noushin
>
From: ali@utrcv1 (Ali Eslami)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Republican Convention
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:25:00 GMT
Organization: United Technologies Research Center

I was just wondering if any of you guys watched Republican National
convention last night, I Liked Patrick Buchanan speech the best. He sounded
like a good christian; I really wish he was running for republican instead
of Bush. It's only a matter of time before american people wake up and
smell the roses. We will get no where without faith and religion.

Sincerely yours;

Ali Eslami

 ***************************************************************         
 *  What we call the ills of life is due to our own ill-deeds  *
 *  And many of them are forgiven by god. This life is a stage *
 *  of convenience; Live true and resist all wrong, but learn  *
 *  the best way to do it so. On god rely; else no protector   *
 *  will you find. God revelation comes as a guide and mercy:  *
 *  It shows the straight way the way of god all-wise.         *
 *************************************************************** 

Internet = Ali@utrc.utc.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami)
Subject: Re: When Was Your First Time?
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:30:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.193509.22913@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:

>bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>>
>>And here comes the classic question I have always wanted to ask the netters
>>at sci.  When was the first time you [...] and how did you learn about it?

>Sir,

>I believe you are in the wrong newsgroup. You need to take this to
>alt.sex or any other relevant newsgroup.

>>PS. Oh, yes, my first time was around October or November of last year (90).

>Please spare us in this newsgroup with stories of your private life,
>and please refrain from posting such offensive material to
>soc.culture.IRANIAN in the future.

>    Sincerely,
>    --mack

>--
>When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
>And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
>You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda

Mack;

Don't you think that with your idea like this, then, you should revise your 
signature file! Please spare us from your love life.

Peace and Prosperity!
  ---==< 110 >==---
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: News of Iran
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:32:54 GMT
Organization: none


                                       
News briefs from KayhAn HavAee # 994:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
   
o Eight baby food factories are under construction in 7 provinces.
  Each one will have a capacity of 5000 tons.
    
o Steel production increased by 33% during the first 3 months of
  this year compared to same period last year. Copper production
  increased by 12%.
    
o Petrochemical production during first 4 months of this year
  increased by 46% compared to same period last year. Chemical
  fertilizer production increased by 57.5%.
             
o Accurate bombing of MKO's headquarters in Iraq by Iranian planes
  has created suspicions among its leaders that anti-Rajavi MKO
  members may have supplied information to Iran. As a result, an
  increasing number of MKO members are being tortured and executed.
                
o All "Basij" notebooks (daftarche-hAye Basij) were declared invalid
  throughout the country.
    
o The inflation rate presently stands at 19% as a consequence of
  government's drive to reduce subsidies and bring gov. borrowing
  down to zero by 1372. This policy was preferred to a policy of
  keeping prices down at the cost of sacrificing economic growth.
                
o During the last 4 months the films "Close-up" and "And life
  continues" by AbbAs KiA-Rostami and "NAser-eddin Shah, the
  movie actor" received prizes at international film festivals
  abroad.
             
o Iran's bicycle team improved the national record by 3 seconds
  in the 4 km race at the Barcelona Olympics.
                      
o From the ad section: The best Persian/Multilingual document
  processor available! Now for your IBM PC compatible with 
  Microsoft Windows (TM). Call (801) 377-4558 today!
  Eastern Language Systems, 39 West 300 North, Provo, Utah 84601
  Fax: (801) 377-2200.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
 - Farzin Mokhtarian
   farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp
                                   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: Another look at plane shooting over the gulf
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:26:53 GMT

sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:

>I just heard something very interesting about the shooting down of the
>airplane over gulf. I was told that there was another military plane over
>the passenger plane on a mission on US navies. The military plane was right
>above the passenger plane so the radar couldn't trace it and the passenger
>plane was warnned by US navy a few times to change direction. So does this
>mean that Iran is responslible for 290 death of innocent people ?

>Any supportive or anti comments??

I heard a similar story a couple of days after the downing of the Airbus.
In this story Iran had filled the Airbus with Iraqi POW's (I do not remember
whether it was live POW's or just corps).  Then Iranian would fly this Airbus
over the American fleet.  Of course the plane is filled with explosives and
is used as a suiside vessel.  I heard this from a US NAVY officer.  What a
fabrication !

Your story also seems to be nothing but fiction.  The wishes of an
American Captain who is dreaming of becomming an Admiral.


>By the way, don't flatter yourself. Iran wasn't the one that invented this
>technique. Iraq invented it and that was the way that Iraq could reach
>their planes to Tehran and Isfahan and Shiraz to bombard them. They waited
>until an Iranian passanger plane took off from border cities and jumped
>over it as soon as it was in the air.

You seem to be ill-informed in these matters.
Although Iraqi AF had material superiority over Iran Iranian pilots were
way superior to the Iraqi ones.  In fact Americans ranked Iranian pilots
among the best in the world.


>Ramin 

Ala
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Subject: Re: IRAQ and IRAN
Reply-To: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:51:12 GMT

farhad@cwi.nl (Farhad Arbab) writes:

>
> Check it out, Kurds and most Turkish speaking people in Iran, as
> well as most other ethnic groups in Iran ARE Iranians.  Kurds
> and Persians are two of the major ethnic Iranian sub-groups.
>
> To clarify, by Iranian, I do not mean living in the geographic
> boundary of the country called Iran; I mean as a "people" or a
> race.
>
> Furthermore, most of the population of Turkey is not ethnic Turks
> (descendants of the nomadic tribes who came from the East) and most
> people who speak (very different dialects of) Arabic (e.g., in Egypt)
> are not ethnic Arabs (from Arabia).
>

  Yes, Arab does not mean a gene. For me, the question of who is
  an Arab? is the same as Who is American? similarly with who is
  Iranian?  This is something we all should be proud of. The
  more you are mixed, the more you are human being. People who
  never mixed with others (and claim to be pure) are RACISTS.
  In Modern Iran, Persians, Arabs, Turks and others are mixed.
  Something you should be proud of.

  The difference is in who is Persian? Persian means the ancient
  race.

  Arabic culture was and is the melting pot of many ancient races.

> People are entitled to respect for their cultural and ethnic
> heritage.  Broad categories are sometimes useful if used properly.
> But often, a broad category as "the Arabs" or "Turks" or even
> "Iranians" is too general and becomes a means to perpetuate
> bigotry through malice and ignorance.  "The Arabs" as often used
> to refer to multitudes of distinct peoples with different
> cultural and historic backgrounds (generally with the Arabic
> language and Islam as their commonality) is inaccurate and robs
> people of their individual cultural heritage.  Calling an
> Egyptian, a Sudanese, a Moroccan, an Iraqi, and a Saudi-Arab
> "an Arab," as if they were interchangeable, is just as meaningful as
> using the term "English" to refer to anyone who speaks English
> (even if only as his/her first language) in today's world.

 No. word Arab means all of these people. Just like the world
 American. In 1000 years, you will find it very difficult to distinguish
 between an American of German origin and an American of Iranian
 origin. Not only that but people will call themselves Amercians
 and won't give a damn about their origions. This is happening now
 and just after 200 years with Early immigrants.

 Egyptians and others did not just adopted Arabic and Islam,
 they got mixed.

>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Farhad Arbab
> Interactive Systems
> Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science
> Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam

  Anwar Saleh
From: scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk (M.G)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Saddam and the Environment
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:03:24 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Gulf War oil pollution less severe than thought
Mr Sehari writes:

I wonder what would be the environmental damage, if Saddam had nuclear and 
biological weapons!  I guess, all the middle east would have gone up in the 
smoke.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing, nothing at all. Saddam do not dare to use Chemical or Biological
weapons on the allied forces and you know very well WHY.
This SCUM is a servant of the U.S.A.
He is in power to serve U.S.A interest that is all.
He do what his MASTER BUSH telling him to do and just listen and obey.

M.G.
Cardiff, Wales, U.K.
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: Azad University
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:50:45 GMT

yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

>yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

>. . . .
>>After his talk he distributed some application forms and said that he would
>>give them their HOKM (job offer) right there.  There were
>>about 20 to 30 people there mostly hezbollahi and long time residents of
>>U.S. which were not too much impressed by the pay but several people
>>got their job offer anyway.

>>(to be continued)
. . . 

>On the issue of research some of the audience asked questions.  Jaasbi
>discounted the role of research in the universities by saying that
>research conducted in Iran is theoritical research (I think he meant
>abstract research) which does not benefit the country.  Applied research,
>he said, has not reached Iran.  On the other hand university professors
>do not show any interest in research and mostly do not utilize their
>time for research.

>(to be continued)

Dr. Jaasbi said that government has so far spent 250M toman on a
housing complex for the university professors in Tehraan.  This complex
is built in HESAARAK on a 250 hectar area and initially would have
between 500 to 1000 houses to be used until one finds permanent housing.

When asked by someone whether IAU has a certain field for Ph.D. he 
smiled and like a dukkandaar said "MAA JENSEMOON JOOREH" or in other
words "You name it, we got it"!  He was distributing some brochures
about IAU in which a very large table showed the locations of IAU
sites and the fields they support.

Mr. Jaasbi did not come to U.S. to invite Iranian educated to go back.
You could notice this by the size of the crowd and the type of people there.
He was here to apply for loan from the World Bank.  He then left D.C. to
N.Y. to do the same thing in the U.N (actually he was after U.N. scholarships).

I also had a chat with his associate Dr. Maadar Shahi.  He praised Jaasbi
for having the political influence to practically counter any objections
to the IAU.  He said that Jaasbi used to be part of Islamic Republic party
and enjoys backing of Rafsanjaani and Khaamene'i and some other akhonds.
When university professors complained to Majlis about IAU he could easily
convince Majlis.  He also said that if it was not because of IAU most
university professors would have left Iran.  Dr. Jaasbi and Maadar-Shahi
were the happiest Iranian university professors I have ever met!  They
have the right to be happy since things are going to well for IAU.

(to be continued)


>>What is AZAD university all about?  MONEY, POWER, CONTROL.
From: bhushan@fmiapd.com (Bhushan Kerur)
Subject: TEST
Organization: Fujitsu Microelectroics Inc
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:03:58 GMT

TEST TEST TEST
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Women's track and field in Iran
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:45:01 GMT
	<oqsmoc4@twilight.wpd.sgi.com>
Organization: none

In article <oqsmoc4@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> marand@eagle.wpd.sgi.com (Najmeh Marand) writes:

 @In article <1992Aug20.204221.2414@EE.Stanford.EDU>,
 @mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
 @> 
 @> If you wonder about the state of women atheletes in Iran, here is
 @> something I found interesting.
 @>
 @>   ... [stuff deleted] ... 
 @> 
 @> I should add that this meet was held in anstadium, and over
 @> 100 atheletes competed.
 @> 
 @
 @Indeed interesting!  Do you (or someone) know what kind of outfits
 @the women athletes (or specifically those in track & field) wear?  
 @i.e.   do they run / jump in "MAnto and roosari" :-) (or whatever kind 
 @of islamic outfits)??  or (hopefully) wear whatever is comfortable 
 @and disallow men spectators?
 @
 @Najmeh
 @
 @hmmm...  I just noticed that you mentioned "*outdoor*".  That makes
 @it harder to have the women away from any nAmahram's (men's) eyes!!

So why didn't you go back and edit what you wrote before "hmmm"?!  :-)
    
 - Farzin
                
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Executive branch in Iran (was Re: Joke)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:20:01 GMT

kamrani@ifi.uio.no (Kamran) writes:
>
>By the way who is the prime minister in Iran, or does such a title exist
> at  al?

The prime minister position was eliminated from the executive branch a
few years back when the constitution was modified. Now, much like the
way it is in America, Iran has a vice president (mo'Aven avval e
ra'ees jomhoor). I believe Iran's current vice president is Dr.
Habibi, but don't quote me on that.

    --mack

--
When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Tehran
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 08:03:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford

In article <1992Aug20.222152.4967@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>farhad@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
>>In article mahyar@netcom.com (Mahyar Rahmatian) writes:
>>>
>>>PS, How about " Tehran ", what does this name mean ?
>>
>>To me it is a DEC STATION 3100 with 24MEG memory and
>>1.2GIG of disk running  ULTRIX 4.2A  with bunch of
>>Iranians working on it.
>
>AghA FarhAd, everyone knows about Tehran (36.28.0.189). Let's see if
>anyone knows about **i*a* (36.28.0.16)!  :-)
>
>    --mack
>

AghA mA begim, AghA mA begim.  I accidentally learned about your 'bA setAreh'
machine back in 89 when I had just copied the site database from leland machine
to our Unix box at the department.  Actually, it was the first time I used
the grep command.  I tried Tehran, Esfahan, and Shiraz.  Bingo!  I got two of
them in the database.  I guess I even sent you email.  Do you remember?

OK, OK, the rest of you don't yell that I turned this into private talk.  It's
just that Mack remarks reminded me of the fact that we crossed each other path 
at that time and nothing happened unitl I discovered sci.

Well, that's another story.

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 324-1055
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Baghdad, a Persian name, revisited.
Originator: farhad@Tehran.Stanford.EDU
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:19:38 GMT

In article mahyar@netcom.com (Mahyar Rahmatian) writes:
>
>PS, How about " Tehran ", what does this name mean ?
>


To me it is a DEC STATION 3100 with 24MEG memory and
1.2GIG of disk running  ULTRIX 4.2A  with bunch of
Iranians working on it.

Does this mean Iranians  discoverd  computers?

:-)))))

Hi guys!

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From: F.Farzin-nia@lut.ac.uk (F Farzin_nia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Message for mtaghavi
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:18:12 GMT
Reply-To: F.Farzin-nia@lut.ac.uk (F Farzin_nia)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.


Amir-e Aziz,

Dorood Va Sobh Bekheir. I've been trying to mail you for the past couple
of days seemingly without much luck. Every time I E_mail you, I
immediately receive a 'bounced' back message containing your E_mail
address, your local time and nought else. Is this a normal thing to
happen? Have you received any of my E_mails in the past two days? If the
problem is with my mailer and you can't contact me, reply to this post
and I'll follow it up.


Ba Tashakor,
-Farzin.

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From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Iranian women in U.S.
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:58:52 GMT
Organization: UB


Us Iranian Men don't simply deserve Iranian women. They are very
intelligent and very sensetive and caring. They have always been taking
care of us men and our children and we never thanked them except showing 
that we are men and showing our muscles and beating them. So we simply
don't deserve them. I am not saying other foriegn people deserve them but
we gotta start appreciating more ...

Ramin

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