From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: IMPOSTOR WRITES: "Renegade Hebrew" Who Committed Genocide on Armenians 
Summary: response to a fool! 
Keywords: Nogales Bey, Inspector-General of Turkish Forces in Armenia, WWI 
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:10:47 GMT

In article <cB95VB1x346w@Beneath.the.Crescent> AN IMPOSTOR, Nogales_Bey@Beneath.
the.Crescent (Rafael De Nogales) wrote, apparently in response to one of my
dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) postings, wrote:

[IMPOSTOR] Recently 'mr ignorant slut' said:

Have you heard of dos2unix? It seems not, given the number of ctrl-Ms in your
posting...speaking of ignorant! 

[DD] You sir, were fooled. I personally refuted every bit of his revisionism,
[DD] exposed every one of his omissions, deletions, etc. I guess you never
[IMPOSTOR]                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And who OMITTED and DELETED and COVERED-UP his/her/its name in this posting!!!

[IMPOSTOR] and quoted from my book:

[DD] [1] _Four Years Beneath the Crescent_ Rafael De Nogalas, Inspector General
[DD] of Turkish Forces in Armenia and Military Governor of Egyptian Sinai 
[DD] During the War, Translated from the Spanish by Muna Lee, Charles 
[DD] Scribner's Sons, New York, London, 1926, page 17

[IMPOSTOR] But he "forgot"(i.e. 'omissions, deletions, etc') to quote this:
[IMPOSTOR] 
[IMPOSTOR]  "Had the Armenians been more prudent and less ambitious, they would
[IMPOSTOR]   probably control Turkey today. But they set themselves to star-
[IMPOSTOR]   chasing and tried to subdue the Turks of the eastern provinces,..."

No, Mr. IMPOSTOR, I just didn't the entire page, just like YOU didn't quote the
enire page!

[IMPOSTOR] Yes you guessed right the page number is, again, '17'.

[IMPOSTOR] He didn't have the guts to quote this either:
[IMPOSTOR]
[IMPOSTOR]    "there can be no doubt that the Turk, in spite of all his
[IMPOSTOR]     defects, is the first soldier and the first gentleman of
[IMPOSTOR]     the Orient,"

You who posts as an IMPOSTER, refer to others as "not having the guts"? You
coward!

[IMPOSTOR]
[IMPOSTOR] and again, I finished my book saying:
[IMPOSTOR]
[IMPOSTOR]   "As the last shoreline vanished my thoughts were filled with
[IMPOSTOR]    memories of the valor, devotion and uncomplaining sacrifice
[IMPOSTOR]    of the Turkish soldier. Suddenly I felt as if an icy hand
[IMPOSTOR]    had vehemently grasped my heart; and without reasoning why,
[IMPOSTOR]    I stood at attention and saluted those rose-tinted horizons
[IMPOSTOR]    and orange blossom skies which swung now like a veil before
[IMPOSTOR]    the land where I was leaving so many brave comrades sleeping
[IMPOSTER]    the sleep of death beneath the flowery sod of its mountains
[IMPOSTER]    and the burning sands of its deserts..."

[IMPOSTER] Merry Christmas to the first soldier and the first gentleman of
[IMPOSTOR] the Orient,

[IMPOSTOR] Nogales Bey

So, Mr. IMPOSTER, what is your point? Since you don't have a point, please
explain what the REAL De Nogales said on pages 26-27:

 "And while speaking of the Turkish army let me add, with no fear whatever of
  being mistaken, that the regular army of the Ottomans was entirely innocent
  of the Armenian massacres. It not only disapproved of these massacres, but
  would even have prevented them forcibly if it had been able to do do. It
  would not only be an injustice, but contrary to the truth in every sense of
  the word, to look upon the army as an accomplice to, or to try to make it 
  responsible for, the errors committed by some of its members who formed part
  of the Committee of Union and Progress. Among the civil members of that
  Committee, only one conspicuous by force of personality, that was the
  renegade Hebrew (donme) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the 
  massacres and deportations, who fishing in muddy waters, succeeded in raising
  himself from the humble rank of postal clerk to that of Grand Vizer of the 
  Empire. The other civil members of that organization such as, for example, 
  Dr. Nazim, and Ramy and Bedri Beys, were only fallen angles who, unable to 
  resist temptation, permitted themselves to be converted from upright men into
  ogres, their blood-stained hands laden with gold." [1]

             -- Inspector General of the Turkish Forces in Armenia, Nogales Bey

			- - - reference - - -

[1] _Four Years Beneath the Crescent_ Rafael De Nogales, Inspector General of
    Turkish Forces in Armenia and Military Governor of Egyptian Sinai During 
    the War, Translated from the Spanish by Muna Lee, Charles Scribner's Sons,
    New York, London, 1926, pages 26-27


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