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From: atchison@lagoon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Catch Indian Fever (WAS: Re: MLB Standings...)
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:26:42 GMT

In article <16ba0cINNoof@agate.berkeley.edu> jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez) writes:
>        MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STANDINGS FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1992
>		     Won   Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10   Streak   Home   Road
>AMERICAN EAST
>Toronto Blue Jays     66    47    .584    --     z4-6    Lost 1  37-20  29-27
>Baltimore Orioles     64    49    .566   2.0     z7-3     Won 1  32-24  32-25
>Milwaukee Brewers     60    52    .536   5.5      5-5    Lost 2  33-22  27-30
>Detroit Tigers        54    61    .470  13.0     z6-4     Won 5  28-31  26-30
>Boston Red Sox        52    60    .464  13.5      4-6    Lost 3  35-24  17-36
>Cleveland Indians     51    62    .451  15.0     z7-3     Won 2  28-30  23-32
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^    ^^    ^^^^  ^^^^     ^^^^     ^^^^^  ^^^^^  ^^^^^
>New York Yankees      51    62    .451  15.0      3-7    Lost 2  27-28  24-34
>
>Kansas City Royals    51    62    .451  17.0      5-5     Won 1  30-25  21-37
>California Angels     51    63    .447  17.5      4-6     Won 2  30-27  21-36
>Houston Astros        49    64    .434  19.0     z3-7     Won 1  31-27  18-37
>Los Angeles Dodgers   48    64    .429  19.5      5-5     Won 2  30-26  18-38
>Philadelphia Phillies 47    66    .416  17.0     z2-8    Lost 3  27-30  20-36
>Seattle Mariners      44    71    .383  25.0      2-8    Lost 1  25-32  19-39

At last!  Outta 7th!  In the immortal words of Marv Albert, 
" Y   Y EEEEE  SSSS   ! "
   Y Y  E     S       !
    Y   EEEE   SSS    !
    Y   E         S    
    Y   EEEEE SSSS    !

Seven, count 'em, seven teams are worse than the Tribe!  And all on the way
down in their last 10, except for the streakin' Wahoo's.  Look out Tigers,
that 4th place pennant is ours!

Anybody think we could get Clemens, Brown, Glavine, and Eck' for Cook, Otto,
Scudder, and Armstrong?  I think a 46-3 finish could win the pennant ;^)

[followups to alt.pipe-dream]

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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: "Discarded" Giants (Re: Jeff Brantley sucks!!!)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:08:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.210108.19856@esd.dl.nec.com> west@esd.dl.nec.com (Mike West) writes:

>And please note that [Lefferts] did *not* succeed at that role in SD.

Not true.  Last year he didn't succeed, but in '90, he pitched 78 2/3 innings
giving up 68 hits and 22 walks.  That's not bad, to go with his 2.52 ERA and
23 saves.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin)
Subject: Village Voice Trivia Quiz 1-10
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:51:44 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

The following appeared in the August 18, 1992 issue
of the Village Voice.

"Can't Anybody Here Take This Quiz?"

Baseball ... the perfect game, the game of men at
work and of fathers playing catch with sons on a
field of dreams in the glory of their times.  We
enter the cathedral of baseball as supplicants --
but as American supplicants, in that most American
cathedral of democratic sancity that is uniquely
American and democratic, a Game of Ball being played
by noble Men who are in fact Boys, themselves
playing on infinite American cornfields of perfect
democratic geometry.  Slowly the Game proceeds,
slowly, for we are thinking.  It is in this spirit
that we present the following quiz by Dan Gutman, 
author of Baseball Babylon.  Rhymes, timeless rhymes.



The following are questions 1-10 of 40.

1.  What ballplayer's mother blew his father's
    brains out with a shotgun two weeks before
    his first big-league game?

2.  What was Babe Ruth's usual response to the
    question "How's it going?"

3.  After the Wade Boggs--Margo Adams affair,
    what did David Letterman say Bogg's batting
    average was?

4.  Which two Yankee pitchers swapped wives in
    1973?

5.  Name three women Steve Garvey had babies with?

6.  What did Margo Adams do to make Wade Boggs
    jealous?

7.  According to Margo Adams, what did Wade Boggs
    say he would do if he was hitting .400 near
    the end of a season?

8.  In 130 years of organized baseball, who was
    the only person in the game to acknowledge
    that he was a homosexual?

9.  Name the Phillies first baseman who was
    arrested for indecent exposure in front of a
    six-year-old girl?

10. Who accused Dave Winfield of giving her a
    sexually transmitted disease?

The answers will be posted in about a week.
From: lbr@holos0.uucp (Len Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Question-infield fly rule
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:58:47 GMT
Organization: Holos Software, Inc.

In article <10AUG92.25635648.0044@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> AB47@UNB.CA (Don Soucy) writes:
>  Does it have to be the home plate umpire?   At last Sunday's Red Sox
>  - Blue Jays game last Sunday at Fenway, Herm Winnigham hit an infield
>fly, Jeff Kent, playing third, let it drop, Mo Vaughn advanced to third
>  where Kent dropped the ball attempting to tag him out.
>  Apparently [teh fielder] believed there should have been a force at third.  My
>  brother suggested that it may be because the home plate unpire did not
>  call the infield fly.

It sounds like the umpiring crew ruled correctly.  Infield fly, batter out,
runners advance at their own risk, no force play in effect.

Any umpire can call the infield fly.  Often you'll see more than one call
it: for example, if the ball is going to land near the second baseman
both the 1B and 2B umpires will call it.  It's an infield fly if any
umpire rules it so.

Your brother's idea makes little sense.  Why would the home plate umpire
rule on something happening on the outfield grass behind the shortstop?
In fact, there's very little in the rulebook about which umpire should
rule on what.  This is worked about by the leagues and the umpiring
crews.
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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: Need tix: Wrigley Oct 2 Weekend
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:42:31 GMT

In article 4772@bnrmtl.bnr.ca, madigan@bmtlh178.BNR.CA (Lenny Madigan) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I'm planning a trip to Chicago, to catch the Expos-Cubs series
>at the beginning of October.
>
>Can someone please provide info on a number to call, the
>likelihood/cost of scalped tickets, other recommendations.
>
>I'd like to catch all three games if possible.
>

Legitimate means for acquiring tickets for Fan Appreciation Weekend
include Tickemaster (312) 404-CUBS (2827) and ticket brokers. Find them
in the classifieds of the _Tribune_ or _Sun-Times_ if you can get a 
hold of one.

Scalping is, as always, illegal in Illinois, but you will find those
enterprising souls outside the ballpark with two or three tix in their
hands.

Weekend games, especially this one, will probably only have individual
seats or SRO left, so your best bet is brokers or curbside market.

Why, do you think Les Expos will clinch it against us? :)




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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Oriole News -
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:28:06 GMT

In article <5605@transfer.stratus.com> gene@ok.sw.stratus.com (Eugene Loparco) writes:

>How is Milligan having an above average year and Murray a subpar year for
>first basemen?  Last time I checked Milligan was having a pretty mediocre
>year FOR ANY POSITION, let alone first base.  And although I don't have any
>stats in front of me, I thought that Murray was having a decent year.  Are
>you one of those walk devotees who thinks that a walk is the most important
>offensive stat there is?  That's the only way I can understand your statement.

Murray:		.323 OBP, .421 SLG
Milligan:	.394 OBP, .362 SLG

Milligan's stats, although hardly earth-shaking, is hardly mediocre.  Murray,
however, makes an out 68% of the time he goes up there.  That won't do.

A walk is definitely *not* the most important thing out there.  It is much
less important than homers, triples, and doubles, and somewhat less than
singles.  However, when you are not walking and are not hitting, you eat up
bundles of outs.
>
>This will probably clear things up...
>
>Who's having a better year, Randy Milligan or Don Mattingly?

Milligan.  No doubt about it.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: More Padre trade rumors
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:17:31 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

Apparently four or five Padres have cleared waivers,
including Benito Santiago.  Bruce Hurst was placed
on revocable waivers, was claimed, and waivers withdrawn,
so he's a Padre until the off-season.

The big rumor here (two sources say the same thing!)
is Benito will be traded to the Expos for (probably)
two prospects.  The Expos don't want to include Rondell White,
but a deal is near.  The other prospect is a pitcher, I
forget the name, but a middling prospect, as I recall.

No other deals appear imminent.  I still don't understand
why Pat Clements couldn't have been traded for a body instead
of being released... he's been pitching great for two or
three years now.  How many decent lefties are there, anyway?

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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: Cleveland Indians -- 4th PLACE!!!
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 04:13:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


Wow. In contribution of Detroit's loss and the Tribe's win, we actually 
climbed up to 4th place, battling for the 4th place position instead of
staying stuck in the cellar -- which proves to you'all -- 

 CLEVELAND CAN DO IT ! ! ! !

- Scott

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From: rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising)
Subject: Canada's National Team
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:49:27 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

If the Jays are now seen as "Canada's National Team," I don't think
that it has anything to do with French-Canadian vs. English-Canadian.
Rather, I think that it is a reflection of how the two teams have been
marketed and supported at home.  When the Jays first came to Toronto
it was difficult to even pick up the game on radio more than 60 miles
from Toronto (the radio station had an incredably weak signal), and the
games were not even available on radio in Toronto when the Maple Laughs
were in the playoffs (as you doubtless know, virtually EVERYBODY makes
the playoffs in the NHL, so some games were lost in that way).  By
contrast, the Expos were available throughout the country, and the only
team that was ever telecast on the national CBC TV.  CTV took up the
telecasts of the Jays, and as the Jays got better and the Expos worse,
the popularity changed.  Historically, baseball has always been very
popular in southern Ontario; hockey is much more popular in northern
Ontario and Quebec.  But if any team was ever touted as Canada's
National Team it was was Expos (before the Jays arrived); the Jays
may have become that in some peoples' minds, but that has never been
touted by the press.
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From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Jeff Brantley sucks!!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:44:54 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

Brantley does not suck.  He is having an off year.  It happens.  Dumping him
now would be a mistake because his trade value is low.  Just look at what some
other 'washed up' Giants are doing:

o Lefferts in SD is an allstar with a nice record
o After giving up on M. Davis he won a Cy Young for SD
o Mulholland is a good pitcher for Phi and has no-hit the Giants.
o Dennis Cook has a respectable ERA in Cleveland

I'm sure its hard for someone like Brantley to stay focused when the team
sucks and is > 15 games out of first.

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From: rc@hal.COM (Rolland Crunk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dream Team
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:29:20 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: malibog.hal.com

In article <QeWGQIC00iUy81MWt0@andrew.cmu.edu> Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>No way, no how is David Cone better than Doug Drabek.  Sorry, but no.
>
>Todd


I completely disagree. IMO David Cone is the best pitcher in either
league (yep even better than Roger Clemens). I wouldn't mention Drabek
in the same breath.

rc
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From: tjurlina@itmtbj (Tom Jurlina)
Subject: Re: Chicago Schedule Labor Day Weekend?
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:55:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.125402.20935@meaddata.com> brian@meaddata.com (Brian  
Curran) writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.214046.7464@odin.corp.sgi.com>,  
rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares) writes:
> |> Can someone post the baseball schedule in Chicago for Labor Day
> |> weekend?  Also, will the Bears be in town? 
> 
> Cubs are at home against San Diego Friday, Saturday, and Sunday (all day
> games).  White Sox are on the road.  Dunno about the Bears.
> -- 
>  
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>  
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> Bobby Bragan, Milwaukee Braves manager, on catcher Joe Torre:
>  "I can't understand why he hasn't been nicknamed Chicken.  Don't you get it?
>    Chicken Catcher Torre!"

  
Bears will be home against the Lions scheduled for a noon start.
Good Luck getting tickets.

Tom Jurlina
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From: dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025)
Subject: EXPANSION DREAFT ?'s
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:08:15 GMT

1) If the club owns option for 1993, Does that mean they don't
   have to be protected?

2) If a player is in the minors, what are the conditions for
   him to be exposed to the draft?
From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Emotional Attachment to Teams
Date: 16 Aug 92 04:08:07 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

>     Interesting question.  In fact, in this hypothetical case, I think
>     I *would* root for "my guys" even if they had on the other teams
>     uniforms now.  The only ball club I have ever followed closely is
>     the Atlanta Braves (I guess because I get to drive down and see a
>     game or two a year, it's only 200 miles).  There are periods when
>     I listen to many, many games on the radio and there are other
>     seasons when I just check the sports page on Sunday to see how
>     things are going around the league... no particular interest in
>     the Braves at all.

Seems like you aren't defined as a hard-core sports fan. You ought to become
one. It's normal for a man to become one, therefore irritating his wife who
has to suffer long periods of ignorance by their hubbies.

> 
>     The difference is the players.  My last period of disinterest
>     started when they traded Brett Butler and Brook Jacoby to the
>     Indians.  For the next several seasons my interest trailed off
>     to almost nothing.  Then I moved into a place with cable and
>     tuned in once in a while to watch Murphy and Hubbard and what
>     was left of the early 80's Braves.  When I got a chance to
>     catch a couple of Tommy Glavine starts, my interest started
>     picking up again. I got hooked on the Glavine-Avery-Smoltz show
>     and now, with the success last season, I listen to three or
>     four games a week.

Now you're closely related to the fairly common syndrome called 
'FAIR WEATHER FAN'. If you don't know what this means, you need to
check with someone. Wait a minute, it might be too hard for you to go
to all that trouble. Let me describe it here. It means you only follow
your team when it is successful. Clear now?

> 
>     If John Scheurholz (sp?) were to trade, say, Tommy Glavine,
>     John Smoltz, Ronny Gant and Terry Pendleton to the Astros
>     tomorrow, I'd probably be an Astros fan for a while. I think
>     I follow the players and just happen to be looking at the
>     Braves when they get players who interest me.

I wouldn't even do that trade. Pendleton is a lamer, if I ever seen one.
But Gant, damn, I would love to have his power and speed.

> 
>     As I said, neat question...

Agreed.

[.sig file deleted due to my decision to not reply to it :-) ]
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From: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mel's Enfant Terrible Todd (WAS Question-infield fly rule)
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:28:12 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu

In article <4200328@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger) writes:
>If I understand correctly, the infield fly rule is to prevent the fielder 
>from dropping the ball on purpose to get a double play.  What I don't
>understand, is why does there have to be runners at first AND second for
>it to be called.  If there is a runner at first only, it is just as possible
>for the fielder to drop the ball for the double play.
>
>Or am I way off on why the infield fly rule is called?????
>
>Kim

If there is only a runner on first, then a dropped fly would result in a force
at second, but the batter-runner SHOULD be able to make it to first.  After
all it is a fly ball.

Maybe they should have a special Sam Horn clause ;-)

C Squared
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: RC/27 for 2Bs
From: guilford@otago.ac.nz
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:38:32 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug13.010631.20645@leland.Stanford.EDU>, claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:

> Depending on how you define "American."  (Ted Frank, can you help us out
> here?)  Puerto Rico is an American possession, but I don't think Puerto Ricans
> are American citizens for these reasons:
> 
> 1.	They don't pay the federal income tax.
> 
> 2.	They don't vote in federal elections.
> 
> 3.	Puerto Rico is neither a state nor a federal territory.  The full name
> 	of Puerto Rico is "Commonwealth of Puerto Rico," I believe.

However, Puerto Ricans are American citizens for another very good
reason: they are American citizens.

Bill Guilford
From: jlesgold@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jacob Lesgold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Tim Wakefield & the Bucs
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:04:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

The Tribune said that Wakefield has a 46-mph kncuckler.  This brings two
questions to my mind...

1)  How fast is the average knuckleball?  

2)  Do the Pirates have a fastballer who can pitch the next day
to "heighten the effect"?  And would there be any real effect?

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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: the knuckleball
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:37:11 GMT


In article <57167@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)  
writes:
> FYI:
> 
> A knuckleball does not have "no spin" as is a common misconception
> (at least this is true for a *good* knuckleball).  If this were
> true, it would not be possible to throw a knuckle-curve (a la Burt
> Hooten).
> 
> I read many years ago in Scientific American (I think) that the "ideal"
> knuckleball rotates once from pitcher to catcher to maximize aerodynamic
> effects.  

I recall reading the the best knucleballs execute a 1/4-rotation, a full  
rotation equalizes the forces too much. But it has been a while since I've  
read those books.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: Dick Williams as Manager of the Padres?!?!?
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 05:10:26 GMT

In article <37132@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>Billy Martin is working for the Angels now, as is Herzog.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yow!  Do they have to hold a seance each time they get his advice?

Tom Scudder
tomscud@ruf.rice.edu
From: db64+@andrew.cmu.edu (David William Blob)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Pirates mailing list
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:15:49 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hey All,

    I am starting a Pittsburgh Pirates mailing list.  Please mail me if
you would like to be added to it.

Dave
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