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From: jamieyn@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jamie P Yoon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Jog My Memory....
Date: 14 Oct 1992 01:21:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

Funny, because I asked a couple of IBM dealers whether 9 X SIMM chips
would work on a Mac (read IIgs - which 'doesnt exist' here). The general
consensus was that it DIDNT. Hmmm. All agreed that the other chip was
for parity checking, as Dave mentioned previously.


Could someone please verify whether they do or they don't work. Believe
it or not, these 1 X 9 Simms are actually CHEAPER than the 1 X 8 Simms.



Regards, Jamie


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From: steven@alchemy.UUCP (Steven Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Is Deskjet 500 better than DeskWriter? (2nd re
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:35:26 GMT
Reply-To: steven@alchemy.UUCP (Steven Lichter)
Organization: Alchemy Software Designs

In article <1b7ff7INNc5p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cd248@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Sherman) writes:


>This is my second stab at this question.  No one answered the first
>time.

>Sun Remarketing is selling the HP Deskwriter (refurb.) for $299.  Is
>there any advantage to getting the deskjet 500 over the deskwriter?? 

>I have a 2.25 meg IIgs w/ a hard drive and I mostly use AWGS.  I do use
>AW classic once in a while but I can use my imagewriter w/ that.

>Does anyone know the answer?

>Aloha.

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I'm not sure if the Deskwriter will work on the II. I have a Deskjet 500
and with the Epson card it works fine on the II.

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From: wildensteink@JURIS (Res Ipsa Loquitor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: (none)
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:45:51 GMT
Reply-To: wildensteink@law
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

hello - thanks for your response regarding your group's interest
in Apple II.  I didn't know of your interest group.  But, you
mentioned that I should look into the comp.sys.mac groups to ask
the same question.  I don't have any specific addresses to ask
this question - do you happen to have an address I can contact
for this question (or, at least, a starting point)?  thanx.
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Two byte fonts on the //GS
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:44:34 GMT

I have a TrueType font called Shorai, which contains (I believe) both
Hiragana and Katakana characters, and is pretty good looking onscreen.
I also have two sizes of Hiragana Dumont and of Katakana.  These have been
mapped quite logically to the IIGS keyboard (QWERT = the vowels and other
combinations of five characters are the consonant-vowel pairs, plus
modifiers to make the consonant+y+vowel combinations).  It includes a
BASIC program which takes Romanji input and converts it to a text file
containing the characters necessary for Hiragana Dumont and Katakana to
display the correct text.  There are limitation, but it works.  I got
these all from AOL.

I just started learning Japanese recently, so I'm interested in anything
you might come up with.

- Eric S.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: richard@serss0 (Richard A Simm)
Subject: non byte-aligned text
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:15:42 GMT

I have some routines that print byte-aligned text to the screen. I use
compiled code to output the font (8 pixels wide by 8 pixels high, or 
thereabouts). The code looks something like

:character_a	lda	#xxxx
		sta	$2000,x
		...			; 7 more times

Now, I want to test the speed of byte-aligned text with non byte-aligned
text. Is the fastest way to do this using preshifted fonts? I doubt I'd
be able to compile the font code though as I do above.

Albert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: J. Mills - Mailing from this site
Reply-To: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:43:51 GMT


John:  I'm receiving your mail, but I'm not sure if mine is
getting out properly.  I usually receive mail back in a day
or so (undeliverable).  When I get this figured out I'll get
back to you.  If that doesn't work, you can try my new phone
number (801-262-5457).  There should be a telephone attached
by tonight.

[MGM]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: memory card for //e style IIgs needed
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 08:04:34 GMT

cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu wrote:
>I have an upgraded //e style IIgs which is in need of more memory. All
>the new memory cards I see don't look like they will fit in a //e
>case, because they are square in shape, not like the Apple 1 mb job,
>which has the top front corner cut off. Can anyone out there recommend
>a card to try? I'd especially like one of those low buck Sequential
>cards if it will work.

Wouldn't it be possible to rig something with a ribbon cable and a
couple of edgecard connectors?  The IIe case is considerably larger
than the IIGS case.  You should be able to make a cable that'll let
you put any GS memory card anywhere inside the case...one possibility
might be to stick the card under the keyboard, with some thick
double-sided tape to keep the card from shorting out on the case
bottom.

(My IIe's still a IIe, but I've thought at times of upgrading it.  In
the meantime, there's a bunch of add-ons stuck into weird places.  I
have a fan sitting under the keyboard, blowing through a hole punched
in the case.  The components for a 12V linear power supply to drive
the fan are stuck in place with some RTV silicone, powered by a small
transformer whose power leads tap into the power supply at its switch.
I also have a Sup'R'Mod RF modulator stuck under the keyboard.
There's lots of room inside the case if you know how to use it.)

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From: sl8wm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple ][+ for sale
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:18:03 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I have an Apple ][+ that I would like to sell it is configured
as follows:

	Apple ][+ w/64K
	Language Card
	2 Floppy Drives (DOS 3.3)
	Original Apple Monochrome monitor (Sanyo DM 5012 CX)
	one unknown card, probably a parallel printer port
	Misc software including :
		Print Shop
		Music Maker
		Apple Writer II
		GraForth
		and many games


The system runs fine though the monitor has a very touchy vertical
hold. It does not have an RF modulator so I just run it through my
VCR and it works great.

If you are interested please send me a reasonable offer.

Thanks
Bruce

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
Subject: ...
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:10:56 GMT

 
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From: ztsindi@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (The Independents - SUNY Buffalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: IIGS SALE! >>>>> 500$ <<<<<
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Here it is! The Deal on a GS system you've been waiting for! 
(well...it is damn good!) If you've been wanting to upgrade from the
IIe or add a system to your School (or District), here it is!
	
	For your hard earned (or hard won grant of) 500$ you get:
	
	- Rom 01 
	- TWO (count em) 2 Megs of Ram (GS Juice Plus)
	- Genuine Apple Monitor
	- 1200 baud US Robotics Modem
	- Apricorn Serial Card
	- Audio Animator for MIDI/Digitization/Stereo
	- 3.5 inch disk drive (AMR)
	- Optical Mouse w/Pad
	- Languages: Orca/C, TML Pascal, Micol Advanced (GS) Basic, 
GS16Forth. All come in origional boxes w/manuals.
	- Stereo Microphone for Audio Animator
	- Music Studio 2.0
	- Synthlab (w/Documentation got this before ADPA dropped the 
II)
	- Instant Synthesizer from Electronic Arts
	- Instant Music from Electronic Arts
	- AppleWorks GS (Claris)
	- AppleWorks 3.0 (Claris)
	- Dark Castle
	- DragonWars
	- Alien Mind
	- Many Shareware/PD titles

	I had to solder the keyboard's circuit board because of the 
infamous GS keyboard problems. It works fine but you might have to replace 
it eventually. Since the system is only 500$ that shouldn't be a 
stretch if you wish too replace it. 
	I will not sell individual pieces (not when the who thing is 
going for 500$!).
	PLEASE! No pleas to keep the system! The GS is a Great system
, I'm selling for economic reasons!
	Terms: You pay postage & handling (10$?). 
	Please email me at ZTSINDI@UBVMS and I will RSVP speedily!
							- Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re:  BostonFest News?
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:41:25 GMT

In article <199210080053.AA03213@well.sf.ca.us> joko@WELL.SF.CA.US (Joe Kohn) writes:
> 
>Te new editor is Bill Kennedy. Of 10 ontributing editors and contributing
>writers, all I know for sure is that both Cynthia field and I are "in". I'm
>not sure I want to be in anymore.

Don't scare us like that, Joe.  I just bought a new subscription, and if
you're not in it, I may have just wasted my money.
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From: tbc@netcom.com (Mike Garvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AppleTalk ImageWriters
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:44:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Speaking of AppleTalk ImageWriters, in my day job as a computer consultant
I've noticed some very odd behavior with the AppleTalk ImageWriter on a
larger network. Specifically, the AT ImageWriter ONLY works reliably if I
put it in its own zone with NOTHING else. One example has an SE/30 running
AppleTalk Internet Router or Liaison daisy-chained to the ImageWriter, the
SE/30 of course exists on one port of a hub.

In a word, why does it do this and what should I do (other than this
workaround)?

(Wanders off mumbling something about no other network printer exhibits
this strange behavior)

Be seeing you...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:02:26 GMT

irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:

>Heh, no, Amrit wasn't one of the people I was originally cheesed at, but he's
>certainly earned a place on that list now.  James Brookes and Mike Horwath and
>I are debating releasing MZ 0.85 with a splash page consisting of the email
>addresses of the culprits...

  No way. That's just plain rude.  Everyone (including yourself) has a right
to their opinion, an to express their opinion.  You would be committing a
grave PR blunder if you were to seriously insult people like this.

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From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Date: 15 Oct 1992 02:09:43 GMT
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nde.unl.edu

schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:
>mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:
>>t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) wrote:

>>>Well, I had problems with the .SEA file refusing to run (kept stopping 
>>>right at the launch with "error $1104" [can't find segment, I think]). 

>>This is as good a place as any to alert folks to this:
>>
>>IF YOU FIND A SELF-EXTRACTING ARCHIVE IN BINSCII FORMAT, DO NOT UNBINSCII
>>IT BEFORE MOVING IT TO AN APPLE II.
>>
>>Several people ran something like sciibin to turn the SEA back into a
>>binary file on their internet boxes, and then used XMODEM or YMODEM to
>>move the self-extracting archive to a IIgs.  It turns out that if you
>>do this, XMODEM or YMODEM pads the file to a 128-byte boundary.  The
>>System Loader then sees the garbage at the end of the file as "not a
>>load segment" (which, of course, it isn't) and complains that something's
>>wrong.

>I downloaded the binscii'd segments to my GS; un'binscii'd w/ GSCII+;
>and tried to open the SEA. I also got the $1104 error.  Could it be
>that something more general is going on here? (I mean other than the
>"un-binscii on a unix box problem").

I believe I did the same thing (well, maybe I used BinSCII rather than
GScii+, not certain), and had it work just fine.  Also added a new icon
to my system to recognize S16 *.SEA files with an icon of a *.SHK file,
with the execution hand.

>Paul Schultz
>schultp@wl.com

Perhaps, due to this extraction problem, a new BinSCII file extension is
in order?  Perhaps .BSE rather than .BSQ?

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From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:29:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:

: This is as good a place as any to alert folks to this:
: 
: IF YOU FIND A SELF-EXTRACTING ARCHIVE IN BINSCII FORMAT, DO NOT UNBINSCII
: IT BEFORE MOVING IT TO AN APPLE II.
: 
: Several people ran something like sciibin to turn the SEA back into a
: binary file on their internet boxes, and then used XMODEM or YMODEM to
: move the self-extracting archive to a IIgs.  It turns out that if you
: do this, XMODEM or YMODEM pads the file to a 128-byte boundary.  The
: System Loader then sees the garbage at the end of the file as "not a
: load segment" (which, of course, it isn't) and complains that something's
: wrong.
: 
: If you already have the SEA on your system and have problems like TC
: explained, try resetting the EOF of the file 118119 (instead of the
: probable 118272 you have) and it should work fine.  These numbers are
: for the GSHK 1.1 self-extracting archive _only._

     I made 4 files into a SEA and then binscii'ed them.  Then did a text
transfer onto my unix box and then transfered the text back into a file on
my home machine.  I then unbinsciied them using (NDA version) and I am
getting the same errors (what is it $1104?).  I think it is something else.
Only the shadow knows.  Of course, you can still extract them using GSHK
fine.  It even tells you that it is a SEA.  This SEA stuff is a great idea
though.  Hate to say it but could it have somthing to do with the NDA
binscii-SEA combination.  Could it be the NDA?  Could it be ........

Gary
gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: >gudat henrik, Doug Tran
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  9 Oct 92 00:10:18 GMT

>>From: gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik)
 
>>* Prefix 0 you said? Nope, it's 1/...
 
Henrik,
  You should be using prefix 9, not prefix 1. I might be remembering the wrong
number, but the lower prefixes (1-7) are limited to 64-chars and are for
backward compatibility with ProDOS 16 apps. GS/OS apps should only use the
higher ones, I think starting at 8 for data files, 9 is where your app is, 10,
11, 12 are stdin, stdout, and stderr (.console actually, now that I have my ref
open)... See page GS/OS Ref page 48.
 
If you have ORCA/M 2.0 read what the addendum says about numbered prefixes.
 
 
>>From: digdug@iastate.edu (Doug V Tran)
>> would someone please provide the pinout for the scsi port?
>> I'm trying to see if a GS drive can work on a MAC computer.
 
Doug,
The pinouts are indeed the exact same. Many IIGS users do their hard drive
shopping in MacWorld, MacUser, and MacWeek due the Mac's higher volume/lower
prices on SCSI drives. Watch out for HD's powered from the floppy port, though.
 
 
 
Jay
 
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From: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Re: GSHK1.1
Originator: schwarts@atlantic.cps.msu.edu
Reply-To: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:48:50 GMT


Has anyone had problems with the docs on GSHk1.1? After unshrinking, the doc
file reports as being empty (just tried to load it using ProTERM) despite it
having 62 blocks.


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From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 11:20:58 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: switch box to switch keyboard between 2 computers?
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <1992Oct8.134834.8780@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Jeanne Chappell writes:
>What I would like to do is hook the keyboards/monitors to a switch box
>such that I can flip a switch and keyboard1/monitor1 will then work with
>computer 2 - flip the switch again and keyboard2/monitor2 will work with
>computer 1 (be able to toggle back and forth between computer1/computer2)
>and the same for keyboard2/monitor2.

Not really, a good idea.  First problem, the keyboard, I am not sure ADB
would like switching keyboards.  If a GS starts up with no keyboard on it,
I know it is difficult (if not impossible) for it to recognize one that
suddenly becomes online (it may be possible with some ADB toolset routines).
Second problem, power (especially the monitors).  It would not be beneficial
to the circuitry to switch between two 'on' monitors.  It will work, but you
may eventually blow something.  If you turn off the monitors before you switch,
that should be okay.

Pauley
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: Orca/C Linker Problems?!?!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:30:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.135107.6975@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz) writes:
>On a related note, does anyone know how to convert ANSI cursor codes to 
>something in Orca/C?

Well, you could get GNO which comes with a complete curses package for Orca/C
plus a lot of other stuff to make converting Unix C stuff more painless.

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>125 East Wilson Hall-MSU         gross.  But it's not for the timid."
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From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: .gif and .jpg converter for IIgs?
Keywords: .gif IIgs
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:04:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: vela.1992Oct14.210457.23898
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <tkris.718704252@crash.cts.com> tkris@crash.cts.com (T. Kris Kasner) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a Public domain .gif .jpg
>converter for the //gs? I'm a tad on the new side of looking
>through FTP's and the like, so if someone with the answer to
>my question would be kind enough to be specific in how I would
>go about getting such a thing, saying it exists,
>I'd greatly appriciate it if you could Mail me a reply
>Thanks in advance!

Yes, a jpeg converter exists... but it is S-L-O-W!!!

Basically, you can convert a jpeg file to a color gif on the clones
at school in under 5 minutes, whereas I have only been successful
converting jpegs to B&W gifs on my GS... and they take forever...
I would say the average conversion time is around 5-8 hours.  And I
have a 9MHz Zip, too!!  You'd be better off doing the conversion on
an IBM, or on your mainframe, if you have one and can get the program.

Additionally, the djpeg program requires a shell like Orca or GNO.
Fortunately, with GNO, you can multitask the djpeg in the background,
but if you crash your computer when you've had it on for five hours
of use, you have to start the conversion over again (I've done that
and it really sucks!!).

If you need info on the djpeg program, let me know... I'll see if I 
can find out where I got it from (but I think I personally just kept
the djpeg program and tossed the docs).

	Later,
		...Mike

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