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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:23:39 -0400
From:         doug paulett <paulett@CNMTL.CN.CA>
Subject:      LaserJetIIIsi and QMS
X-To:         banyan-l@akronvm.uakron.edu

A printer that does switch intelligently between PCL and
postscript is the QMS PS series (QMS PS410, QMS PS815, QMS PS825,...)
I don't work for QMS, but as a network admin, these printers are
hassle free.  Apparently, they look at the first few bytes of a job
and switch between PCL and postscript based on the type of data
coming in.  The only thing I have to do is to send a reset sequence
in the vines printer suffix to ensure that it goes back to its
emulation sensing mode aftereach job.  Beauty graphics, more fonts
that you know what to do with.  No soft fonts[C[Cno special drivers
(unlike the IIIsi) and complete postscript compatibility.  Highly
recommended.
Doug Paulett
paulett@cn.ca
CN Rail, Montreal, Que.
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From: jabusch@osiris (John Jabusch)
Subject: Re: FTP to Banyan Server
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:49:28 GMT

Steven I Gordon <sgordon@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU> writes:

>A note from someone on the list claimed that one could FTP to a Banyan server.
>I am able to run a local copy of TFTP from FTP Inc. on a workstation and
>then FTP to that workstation through the server.  That allows me to get to
>server files I have access to.  However, efforts to FTP directly to the
>server fail.  Is this possible and if so what has to running in background.

Yes, you can ftp to a server directly, with the right software.  Look
in the /pub/banyan/services directory on csus.edu.  There is an ftp service
zipped up and stored that which you might find very handy.
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John W. Jabusch					US Army Construction
INTERNET: jabusch@cerl.cecer.army.mil    	Engineering Resesarch Lab
MILNET: jabusch@osiris.arpa        		Champaign, IL
"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" - Hobbes
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:26:27 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@DPNET.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      Wierd STDA problem
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
X-cc:         k=barbi%lg%7CG@dpnet.hq.af.mil

   I'm having a strange problem with an STDA service on a CNS/20 MHz
server running 4.11(5).  What happens is that it doesn't appear to
handle the inclusion list entries correctly.  Here's what happens:


A user, K Barbi@LG@7CG tries to send a message to
SMTP@7CGLG2@7CG[rankin%execpo5@hq.af.mil].  He uses VINES mail to
compose his message.  On the "TO:" line he presses ALT-N to bring up
STDA, selects "W Rankin" and presses RETURN.  The entry in my
inclusion file for "W Rankin" is this:

label: W Rankin
desc: Col William Rankin, CC, x12345
addr: unix[rankin%execpo5@hq.af.mil]


"unix" is a nickname for my SMTP gateway

The STDA service plugs in W Rankin@LG@7CG instead, which is a
non-existent StreetTak name, and of course the mail bounces like
congressman's check.

I should also note that pressing F2 does not bring up STDA.  It
brings up the old address book.

Looking at a log of the offending service reveals nothing (to me at
least).

Does anyone have any ideas?  Thanks in advance.


SSgt Robert Stoll
Network Manager
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon, Washington, DC
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From: jabusch@osiris (John Jabusch)
Subject: Re: Banyan supported platforms
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:51:39 GMT

Dool@APPBEHEER.FEW.EUR.NL writes:

>Does anyone have a up-to-date list off certified platforms for Banyan-Vines?

Check out csus.edu's pub/banyan/banyan_info directory.  I'm out of my office
at the moment (at ABUi) and don't have a lot of time.  However, I think the
file is called hardware.zip, or something like that.  It should contain some
useful information for you.
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John W. Jabusch					US Army Construction
INTERNET: jabusch@cerl.cecer.army.mil    	Engineering Resesarch Lab
MILNET: jabusch@osiris.arpa        		Champaign, IL
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:31:12 EST
From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Banyan-l/Compuserve at ABUI

There will be an informal get-together of Banyan-l/Compuserve BANForum
users at the ABUI Conference in Chicago this Sunday April 12 at 9:00. Look
for signs on the exact room location.

What a great chance to meet the people that we only know "electronically".

Shirley Rodgers
ABUI Membership Director
University of Akron
SRodgers@uakron.edu
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:48:36 EDT
From:         "Eric B. Siglin" <drwho@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      CDI Systems, Inc.
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

Does anyone know if CDI Systems, Inc. is one of the companies affected
by the power outages in Chicago?  I have been trying to reach them for
three days and get no answer.

The reason for my call to CDI is a problem that I'm having with
AutoKey/3270.  I installed a command file for a user and she is
receiving the following error message:
Path/file access error in line 0 of module IOSUBS   at address 2FE5:0565
The only place I can find where this could happen is on the ERRORLEVEL
statement.  The AutoKey software is in a directory that she has read-
only access.  Has anyone seen this error and if so what can be done to
correct it?

Another AutoKey question:  Has anyone found a way to use DOS
environmental variables within an AK command file?

Thanks in advance.  Have a great weekend all!

Eric Siglin
drwho@tso.uc.edu
From: alans@CORAL.USACE.MIL (Alan Smith)
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Subject: re: Netware 3.2
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:24:07 GMT
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              14:30)

Shirley, et al.
   The lpd daemons thatare available run on the Vines server themselves. They
are then able to send print output to any Vines print service. I use the lpd
daemon from Brian Sullivan of Carleton Univ in Canada. It works great for us
--
we're starting to make lots of Banyan printers accessible both by UNIX
machines as well as some other hosts that can talk lpd.


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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:11:40 EDT
From:         Gregory=Martin%DPNET=Mgt%DP@DPNET.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      re: Communications
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

We're using procomm plus network here.  Interrupt 6b only.  It works fine.
Over 50 satisfied users.  I'm glad Banyan allowed others to support their
asynch service.  They right a great NOS but a crappy (sorry, Banyan) terminal
emulator.

\Greg
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:40:38 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      ORACLE ON A VINES OR A SUN BOX ??

Good day dear Netters,

We have major plans to integrate an Oracle database server on our network.
The clientele for this service would be around 100 users.  The choice for
the end user's software package is SQL forms, although it is not quite
official yet.  Everything here is Ethernet and TCP/IP.  We have a FDDI 100 Mb.
Redundant Backbone running across the campus ( 20 buildings ).

I'm looking for some feedback from people who have been in contact or knows a
bit on the integration of Oracle on a Vines Network.  We have an idea to get a
powerful (486 33 Mhz) dos computer for server which would only be running this
service.  But it has been suggested that a more powerful Unix based Sun Micro
station running under TCP/IP would be as good a choice, if not better.  So,
there it is sport fans, there's the debate.  Like KC said in a recent movie,
"It's up to you..."

As always, Gracious thanks for any input.

The French guy
Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
Dsohier@cti.ulaval.ca
418 656-3632 ext. 4065

"The day belongs to the human world, the night, to the human nature"
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:41:35 EDT
From:         Gregory=Martin%DPNET=Mgt%DP@DPNET.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      re: exporting mail to a (database?)file
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Marcel,
I'm no database expert, but here's a starting point.  Every month I archive my
Banyan-l mail by moving the messages to a DOS file.  You should be able to
parse the text file into a database using some type of homegrown utility.

To get the messages into a file, I use a utility called "prn2file" to redirect
lpt1 to a file.  I then use Manage Folders, Print to print all the messages to
ltp1.  This places all the message (*but* not their attachments) into one
large file.

BTW, Marcel, this list thrives because its readers contribute to
discussions (We're all experts in some area).  I challenge you to respond to
questions or discussions.  We learn from others experiences and opinions even
if they're several days late.  We want every reader to actively participate.

\Greg Martin
Greg@dpnet.hq.af.mil
From: John=Jabusch%ENM%USACERL@AARDVARK.CECER.ARMY.MIL
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Subject: re: Netware 3.2
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:32:03 GMT
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>> John=Jabusch%ENM%USACERL@AARDVARK.CECER.ARMY.MIL writes:
>> Banyan by default runs two protocols within a sigle stack.  It also has
>> add-on stacks.  And yes, you can ftp to a VINES server, or lpr to it.  You
>
>Can you lpr directly to the server? or is this accomplished by sending an
>lpr command to a standalone print server running LPD attached to Banyan?
>Please let me know, I'd like to try this as part of a campus-wide distributed
>printing effort.  Thanks.
>
>
>Shirley Woods
>Arizona State University

Shirley,

The lpd service, which was written by a fellow Internetter and given to me for
Banyan-L, runs directly on your VINES server.  It acts as an lp daemon, and
accepts calls from other types of machines that can print to lpd's, including
Sun, SGI, and Pyramid machines (we use all of these all the time).  We have
one service set up on the network, on the same server that handles our SMTP
gateway.  Print jobs come through that server, and are routed off to
appropriate VINES print queues.  The /etc/printcap file (for a Unix system)
gets an entry in it to define the appropriate Banyan print service.  Thus, you
can have multiple /etc/printcap entries on a Sparc, for instance, for multiple
Banyan queues, and they are all routed through the same server.  We use it a
lot!


-=--=-=- -==----= -==---=- -===-=-= -===--== -==---== -==--=--
John Jabusch           US Army Construction Engineering Research Laboratory
(217) 352-6511 x677     Internet: jabusch@cerl.cecer.army.mil
                             or: j-jabusch@uiuc.edu
"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" - Hobbes
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Date:         Thu, 2 Apr 1992 10:38:58 EST
From:         PELLETIER_MARIO%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      HP LASERJET III Si

Hello,

Situation:
HP Laserjet III SI is install on a computer without network.  On this
computer we send to the printer a postscript file and the control panel of
this printer switch to PostScript automaticaly.  If we send a new file, this
time a PCL5 file, the panel switches to PCL5.

The Problem:
We installed HP LaserJet III SI on a computer with PCPRINT. If the printer is
initialized to PostScript, whatever the file sent, a postscript or PCL5 file,
the printer keeps the control Panel to PostScript.  It is the same situation
if the printer is configured first to PCL5.

Questions:

What I can do?

Do you know of a solution that can help me?
I would like to know if Banyan works on these types of problems?

Thank you in advance

Mario Pelletier
University Laval
Quebec Canada
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:56:27 EDT
From:         Laurie=Tu%COMPUTER%UMASS@BANYAN.UMMED.EDU
Subject:      cabletron vs. chipcom
X-To:         banyan-l@akronvm.uakron.edu

I'm posting this message for someone who is interested in hearing from folks
who have opinions on selecting cabletron vs. chipcom cards.  Advantages?
Disadvantages?  Problems?  etc.  (I don't have any info on his network to pass
along ...)

Thanks...

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Internet:  lgtu@ummed.edu                                 FAX: 508-856-2440
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From: ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II)
Subject: Public Domain Dictionary?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:54:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Hi there!

	I recent posting listed the titles available through Project
Guteberg - you guys are off to a great start!  (Maybe my employer will let
me use our scanner...)  I have noticed, however, that a dictionary is not
included in the library.  Is this being addressed?  Just wondering...

							...John

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:24:29 CDT
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Volunteer needed for PR

I think we are going to need a volunteer to assist in the area of
Public Relations.  Right now that would only require looking over
our directory structure once or twice a month and making sure all
our help files were up to date with accurate (and possibly better
--on request) instructions of how to navigate the system and find
and get the books.


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Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:42:40 CDT
From:         Rik Faith <faith@cs.unc.edu>
Subject:      Re: High Tech vs Low Tech

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
VERITAS@U.WASHINGTON.EDU wrote (Tue,  7 Apr 1992 04:06:21 CDT):
> Forwarded via Project Gutenberg--Reply to Specific Addressee
> More responses received, will post summary.
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> the data compression programs now on the market can HALVE the price of
> storage

It is very important to realize how these "twice the storage" claims are
calculated, as the claims are misleading.  Since I know most about Stacker,
I will restrict my discussion to the calculations in Stacker: part of the
"gain" is simply because Stacker tells DOS that the "pseudo-disk" has 8k
clusters and then compares the "savings" to the 512 byte storage units used
internally.  If Stacker used 16k clusters, the storage ratios would be 3:1
instead of 2:1.  Clearly, this is artificial.  What you'd like to compare
is the quantity you can store on your old drive (with 2k or 4k clusters)
with the amount you can store on the new Stacker drive.  You will get, on
average about 30% more storage capacity (in general, you will get less than
the gain from PKZIP or ZOO or one of the other compression programs).  Text
is better.  YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THE DATA FROM A FULL
60MEG DRIVE AND PUT IT ON A "60MEG" Stacker DRIVE!  If you don't believe
this, try it (make a smaller 2-3Meg Stacker drive and try to fill it with a
few files that you know the size of.)
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 04:35:10 CDT
From:         aa001@cleveland.freenet.edu
Subject:      New Gutenberg ftp site...

New FTP site for Project Gutenberg etexts at Cleveland FreeNet

   ftp to: nptn.org (192.55.234.52)

   cd to: pub/e.texts/gutenberg

   and you'll see two further sub-directories "etext91" and
"etext92"

   Also, at pub/e.text some of the other e.texts they have
gathered over time in case anyone wants those.

Our thanks to:

--
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and cleveland.freenet.edu
BITNET: cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm

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Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
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From:         VERITAS@U.WASHINGTON.EDU
Subject:      High Tech vs Low Tech

Forwarded via Project Gutenberg--Reply to Specific Addressee
More responses received, will post summary.
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In regards to the price of disk storage on home computers:  If you are
fortunate enough to have a 80386-25Mhz machine (maybe even a 386SX), the
data compression programs now on the market can HALVE the price of storage.
I use SuperStor and have never had a problem.  Consider this option if you
ever have to reconfigure your system.  I went from 61 MBytes to 122 MBytes
and as a side benefit can store 2.88 MBytes on my 3 1/2 inch "floppies".
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:48:02 CDT
From:         Peter Schmitt <A8131DAL@AWIUNI11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: March Newsletter, Part 1
              30 Mar 1992 16:11:04 CST from <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>

Forwarded via Project Gutenberg--Reply to Specific Addressee

----------------------------Original Response--------------------------
In connection with item C. I disagree:

It may well be that in many cases the way of emphasization is not determined
by the author. But it quite probably will be the author who says what to
emphasize AND there is a difference (I think) between using capitals and
a change of typeface.
(I would interpret capitals as `loud', boldface as `stress', italics as
`foreign language'.)
Furthermore there certainly ARE authors who use distinct typefaces with
purpose - certainly not many in the period where (because of copyright)
most etexts come from, but quite certainly more and more when we approach
contemporary authors.
(Then the problem of complicated page layout will arise, too)
The problem of finding a word with a search program could be solved if,
e.g. * and * were used instead of *and*
(or with better search tools).

And how do you prepare for the case when you have to enter some scientific
formulas?

Peter Schmitt                                        a8131dal@awiuni11.bitnet
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*******Reply from Michael S. Hart*******

* and * will NOT allow a search program given "salt and pepper" to find your
"salt * and * pepper

I would estimate only half the italics we find are foreign words, and my own
interpretations of bold, caps and italics are probably as different from the
ones stated above as are the average interpretations.  However as long as we
state the premises we are working from, it should work.

We ARE working on scientific formulae in Einstein's 1905 relativitiy article
and others he wrote in his early twenties and published at the age of twenty
six (of course he didn't appear in any of my Britannica's until the twenties
(the 1920's, a delay of fifteen to twenty years).  However, however we write
up these etexts today, it will certainly be easy enough to modify them later
to your own specification, easier than starting from scratch (until scanners
and their related software can deal with basically anything).


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Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:34:42 CDT
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Correction

   One problem with our announcement.  In the opening line we said:

"New FTP site for Project Gutenberg etexts at Cleveland FreeNet"

   It is *not* at the Cleveland Free-Net--in fact it is in no way
connected with the CFN.  It is on "CIVITAS" which is the new electronic
home of the National Public Telecomputing Network (NPTN).  (In fact,
the machine is physically located in Youngstown.)
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Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:30:11 CDT
From:         Jerry Frobom <jerryf@unllib.unl.edu>
Subject:      III GOVDOCS INTEREST GROUP

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

In reponse to several inquiries regarding the  once-discussed Government
Dcouments Interest Group for Innovative Interfaces Inc. users, I am extending
an invitation to anyone who might be interested to send me a message indicating
same, and also suggestions regarding what you see such an interest group doing.

I am prepared at this time to temporarily coordinate an e-mailing list, and
to forward any messages that might be of interest to other members of the
group.

Since I am not going to be going to San Francisco, I would also like to have
someone step forward and organize/coordinate some sort of a get-together at
ALA this summer.  I would expect there will be an III Users Group meeting, and
I will try to get details on when and where, and forward that to you.

Sorry about the typos, but I'm still suffering a combination of jet-lag and
getting used to day light savings time.  The mind may be willing, but the
body is still not yet convinced about tinkering with the internal clock!!!

Looking forward to hearing from a large number of you,

Regards,

Jerry Frobom, Head
Government Documents Depository
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
jerryf@unllib.unl.edu
(402) 472-2562
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