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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Remember ...
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:00:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.013510.24402@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.213905.4464@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>>Well, I've heard that VP-elect Gore has written in his book on the environment
>>that cars are a bigger threat to the earth than nuclear weapons.  And he's
>>our new VP??  Are you ready for 4 years of Gore jokes?
>>
>>:-)
>>Simon
>
>	If you think about it they most certianly are.  Look at all of
>the atmospheric damage done in the past 100 years.  How much of it was
>done by cars, and how much by nuclear weapons.  Not to mention the
>ground polution (old cars, old tires, gasoline leaks, etc) and the
>water polution (again, old cars, old tires, gasoline leaks, etc).
>	Besides that Al barely mentioned cars in his book.  The
>republicons have blown what he said way out of proportion.
>
>-Jason
>
Well, anything that Quayle ever said was blown out of proportion, and
and stated as fact.

So just becaue existing cars have their problems doesn't mean that this
ca't change.  I'd rather see more work done on sensible, practical alternatives
such as alternative fuels and electric vehicles rather than increased public
transit, since in most places it doesn't work anyway.
Simon
From: mwmv@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Michael Mogensen-Vermillion)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Why Dan ?
Keywords: the veep
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:37:25 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department

In article <102347@bu.edu> matthew@spica.bu.edu (Matthew Fox) writes:
>
>
>  We do seem to have received a few new posters recently who feel
>obliged to defend Dan as well,
>
>   conservative/believer in small government/champion of trad. values
>
>   or whatever. What puzzles me is the following. Even if I myself was
>a pure Republican conservative (which I'm not), why would I feel that
>Dan, still the VP, is actually worthwhile as VP. 
>    Yes, he has on various occasions, clumsily made statements declaring
>things that he "believes in", but
>	1. How has any of this belief structure been put into practise ?
>	2. What has Dan actually done (other than speak, which is not
>            his strong suit, let's face it) for the conservative causes ?

How about leading the Council on Competiveness in pulling the teeth
of any eviromental legislation, (including the Clean Air Act that
George was so proud of during the campaign) ?
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Wetlands regulations will not be weakened
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 14:04:23 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
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Despite heavy lobbying by Dan Quayle to have the definition of the term
"wetland" redefined in such a way that would allow more of them to be
filled in or otherwise developed, a senior official said yesterday that
the Bush administration would not act to weaken the current regulations.
The decision averted a final battle between environmentalists led by
William Reilly, administrator of the EPA, and Our Boy, who has been
leading efforts for two years to loosen the regulations.

One can almost imagine the politics behind the decision: Bush - "OK
Dan, I'll take the heat for the decision; after all I'm leaving office
and Clinton would just reverse the policy anyway". Danny - "Great,
then I get to save face as the guy who took the fight to the end".

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From: sab@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Right-Wing Token-Ring Network?
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:35:04 -0500

I: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:

          [logic and observations deleted]

   Consider:

   Kurt Ludwick and Robert Davis are the same poster.
   John Switzer and huang from Canada are the same poster.
   Both Switzers are the same poster.

       [lots of other prose]

II: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) responds:

  Well, I believe in giving Kurt a break. Robert Davis is a xenophobic
  hate-mongerer; Kurt is just misguided by somehow believing that supply
  side economics (trickle-down, voodoo economics, whatever) worked as an
  economic theory and if Bush had just stuck to it we'd all be basking in
  the glorious and prosperous sunshine of capitalist Republicanism now.

III: myrab@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (myra.bronstein) also responses:

  I propose that they are all sharing a brain.
  Being small, it's very portable.
  Apparently, when it's one person's turn to possess the brain,
  it's the other person's turn to post.

---------------
I was puzzled initially by the torrent of atypical posts to a.f.d.q.
Maddi's suggestion was intriguing - could it be possible?

Then Eric's idea suggested to me that Kurt Ludwick is the alternative
personality of rdavis (Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde).

But that hypothesis fails to explain Switzer & huang.  But Myra's
concept provided the key!  There is a Rabid Right-Wing Token-Ring
Network(tm) in existence.  The brain (a la Myra) is the token and it
works in a manner analogous to an insect's brain -- it's
inhibitory.  When a poster has the token|brain, he's silent and the
rest of the RRWTRN post.  This hypothesis explains the absence of
thought, the repetitive posts, the alternating and pseudo-random
order of the posts, etc.

Or maybe they just don't have a clue, and it's a waste of bandwidth
to argue with them.

As for Dannoe, NPR had a little satire on repairs of copiers in the
D.C. area.  It ended with running a test through the repaired
copier:
  Repairman: 'It's a bit light'
  Owner:     'It's Dan Quayle's resume'
  Repairman: 'How sad.'

Steve (SAB@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU)
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: What are the chances of a Quayle presidency?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:40:36 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
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sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta) writes:

> jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:

> > Four years is a HUGE amount of time in American politics, and I still have
> > to laugh at Walter Mondale's column in May, 1991 in which he pleaded for 
> > Democratic party to take the Presidential elections seriously and run a 
> > serious candidate. A lot happened between May, 1991 and November 1992, 
> > and even more is possible from now until November, 1996.

> Many of us still chuckle when we remember the Republican claims
> immediately following the Gulf War that the Democratic Party would
> be forced out of presidential politics after the 1992 election
> because they wouldn't be able to get over 25% of the vote.

Not only following the gulf war; just last spring, when Clinton was
running third in the polls, the Republican party was actively looking
into having the Democrats declared ineligible for federal matching funds
after this election if they failed to get 25%.
 

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: bgarfink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (beth diane garfinkel)
Subject: Re: The real Dan Quayle
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:43:44 GMT

In <crb2.722101553@Ra.MsState.Edu> crb2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chad R. Berthelson) writes:

>I don't think you should hope for the incompetent (being safe..they
>have to lose), we republicans did that this year.  We thought surely
>that a draft-dodging adultering waffle king with a bad record on 
>raising taxes on the people of a small state that happens to rank
>about last in all positive measures would be a sure thing for us.
>I actually worried that Paul Songass (sp?) would get nominated and
>give us a run for the money.  Don't underestimate the gullability
>and naivity of the voter.

And then again, there was the woman quoted in the Philadelphia Inquirer
Magazine. I don't remember her name, but she's an American expatriate
living in France, and her comment on the scandal about Gary Hart:  "In
France, the people would not care if the Prime Minister kept three mistresses,
so long as he did his job.  [About Ronald Reagan:]  How dare he not
provide health care and take care of the elderly?"  It would probably be
possible to find the actual article, if I looked hard enough. 

I'd take Clinton over Quayle any day.

								Beth
-- 
"This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays."
	-Arthur Dent, on being told that the Earth is about to blow up.
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Write a short story
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:50:53 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA

In article <9211232014.AA04118@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
mlaster@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Martin A Laster) writes:
 
|> This is for all you creative story writers.  Let's see how well you can write.

  Well, we all know who this leaves out.


|> If you could create a character for you to be for only one night at your
|> favorite night club, what would you think would happen that night at that
|> club.  Explain in detail the following;
|>  
|> 	1) your character (i.e. employee, user)
|> 	2) your night at the club (i.e. things you did, people you met)
|>   
|> Please keep it as realistic as possible, but also creative as possible.
|> This is for a study that I am doing for a night club owner who is planning
|> to open a new club.
|> 
|> Send all replies to this post to vlusane@magnusug.acs.ohio-state.edu
   ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Why bother?  Since this was posted to alt.fan.dan-quayle, why not share
  the wealth and post your replies here, instead?  Pretend you're Dan or Marilyn, 
  all dressed up with somewhere to go.

  As for me, I've got dibs on Marilyn doing lines of coke in the ladies'
  room of Studio 54 with Andy and Halston and Liza and Mick & Binaca.


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Xref: sparky alt.fan.dan-quayle:6845 alt.politics.elections:23931 talk.politics.misc:60414
From: coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com (Don Coolidge)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.loathing.bob-dole
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:32:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
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In article <6953@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil>, jxxl@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (Comet Kahoutek) writes:
|> Is it just my imagination or has Speaker Dole turned quite sour of late?
|> All of a sudden he's revering the late George Bush as if he were the
|> Messiah--and Bush is the guy who knocked Dole out of the 1988 contest
|> with more of his dirty campaign tactics. Dole has hinted of his interest
|> in going after the 1996 nomination, but his bitter disposition would
|> make him appear as a long shot to rally public affection.

Well, it's in Dole's own best interests to try to stand
as firm as possible *before* Clinton is sworn in, in the
hopes of a) getting concessions from the new Administration,
b) reviving his battered image as a Republican leader of the
incoming Senate, c) supressing the mewling and puking of the
last twelve years that might otherwise be heard from other 
would-be Republican leaders in both Senate and House (Newt
Gingrich and Bob Dornan come to mind as particularly odious 
examples), and only lastly d) fueling ambitions for 1996.

Of course, it shoots his credibility to hell, but he's undoubtedly
banking on the short attention span of the typical American voter.

I heard his comments several times over the weekend on various 
NPR broadcasts of Morning Edition and All Things Considered. 
Appropriately, they were shortly followed each time by an interview
with the Reverend (?) Jerry Falwell, whose own amusing brand of 
contradictory mewling and puking will apparently *not* be silenced
for the next four (hopefully 16) years.

Don Coolidge
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From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Remember ...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:15:06 CST
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:

[previous parts of thread deleted]

> >
> Gore would be an extremist if his environmental ideas were in conflict with
> private property rights.  I know there's a difference between advocating
> clean, efficient cars and saying that we shouldn't drive them.  So far,
> his ideas seem sensible.  The extremist minority gets all the media attention
> so when we have a VP who is an advocate of environmental causes, images of
> the extremist elements are conjured u.

Yeah, this is the old Limbot tactic of painting Algor as a tree-hugger (or
worse, tree-spiker).  Not that this tactic is limited to conservatives, since I
remember one of Arsenio's shows where he did a clip of Buchanan from the
convention with a Hitler voice over...

Anyway, maybe it would be more fun if Al really was an extremist, since that
would be wonderful fodder for an a.f.a-g group...



|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Subject: Re: Have some respect
Organization: Wayne State Univ.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:02:25 GMT

odekirk@math.utah.edu (Elizabeth Odekirk) writes:


>v115r4q5@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Perry M Jowsey) posts

>> Did 
>>anyone watch the debate and actually believe that Al Gore won? Be real!

>After the debate, NPR had the results from several groups who referee
>college debates.  They all gave Al Gore more points than Dan Quayle.
>Gore was clear and precise and got the facts across without resorting to
>name-calling and finger-wagging.  While being the loudest and most
>snide may make you the winner in an argument on the playground, it
>does not win you a debate.

NPR is a liberal news show. It would not be at all difficult for them to 
find liberal college debate referees that would side with a liberal
viewpoint. I am not suggesting that V.P. Dan Quayle won. What I am suggesting
is that who a person feels the winner is is largely based on which viewpoint
the person is coming from. Liberals will agree with what Gov. Al Gore said, 
while conservatives will agree with what V.P. Dan Quayle said. After all, who
won is only an opinion, and thus can be different for each person.

>Elizabeth

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From: dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier)
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.loathing.bob-dole
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:24:43 GMT

In article <BxvG4r.K03@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.053547.984@news.acns.nwu.edu> dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier) writes:
>)-- 
>)Douglas C. Meier		| Read the Democratic party platform, then      
>)Northwestern University, ACNS 	| the 1933 Nazi Germany platform.  Now note 
>)This University is too Commie-	| the similarities.
>
>Such as?

Examine economic and social reforms demanded and followed through by the
National SOCIALIST Party.  Education for all, total care for the aged, a
welfare state, etc. all accomplished by heavy redistribution of income.  Sound
familiar?  
>
>Hitler was strongly anti-abortion, btw... which party takes that same
>position?

A number of them do.  The most prominent one is the Republican Party, of
course.  I also hear everyone bitching about "Kuche, Kirche, und Kinder"
claiming that the Republican party also has the same policy with their Family
Values stance.  This is a misconception, however.  Family Values (tm) as I
understand them is personified by the Mother-Father-Children family unit.  It
says nothing about Mom not being allowed to work outside the home.  

I see you used abortion as your "The Issue" (tm) that makes the Nazis and
Republicans absolutely similar, if not close to being the same.  I love you
one-issue ponies.  I really, really do.

BTW, I am no Repubican, so don't even think about it.

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Northwestern University, ACNS 	|  the 1933 Nazi Germany platform.  Now note 
This University is too Commie-	|  the similarities.
Lib Pinko to have these views.	|  dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: gbrown@Rosie.UH.EDU (G. Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: The real Dan Quayle
Date: 19 Nov 1992 07:23:24 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: gbrown@Rosie.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu

In article <RsyeuB1w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com>, popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
>Dan in 1996?  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!  He would last about three primaries.
>Dan has high, high negatives.  Because he has said so, many, many DUMB 
>things.  And has done so little really grand and great.  In 1996 there 
>are a dozen republicans that will overshadow little Dan.  I hope he runs. 
> We need the jokes, but he'll be crushed.  And he'll never be president.
>Maybe he'll run, and lose, and run in 2000, and lose, and run.
>  Think he may become a perrenial candidate?  A new Harrold Stasson?
>
>
>Pope Charles.   Subgenius Pope Of Houston.  Bye bye Dan.  Bye Bye George
>
>--
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>Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX, (713) 943-2728
>1200/2400/9600/14400 v.32bis/v.42bis
 +%z
    JW

I think The Pope has come up with the best suggestion to date for a new job for
Danboe:  perpetual presidential candidate a la Harrold Stasson.  But just so we
won't get lonely during those four long years between presidential elections,
we must insist that he run continuously--which he may well find agreeable since
he has already thrown his hat into the ring for 1994.

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From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.loathing.bob-dole
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:17:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.153143.22236@babbage.ece.uc.edu> rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis) writes:

>Douglas Meier writes:
>>(Bobby Davis) writes:
>>>Yeah, I saw an interview with him on McNeil-Lehrer a couple of days after
>>>the election and all he kept saying was "57% of the country voted against
>>>Clinton, 57% of the country voted against Clinton, 57% of the country..."
>>>(you get the idea).  Doley wanna cracker? - a parrot who knows seven words
>>>is pretty impressive!  Somehow no one thought to mention to him that 62% of
>>>the country voted against Bush.
>>>
>>I find it particularly sad that you people (no offense intended) think
>                                 --------------------------------
>
>Doesn't bother me, but then I am not in the NAACP either.
>
>>everyone was voting *against* one person in the pack.  Could it be that people
>>voted FOR candidates because they thought one was going to do the best job? 
>
>Although I voted for Paul Tsongas in our state primary, I voted for Clinton,
>not against Bush, on November 3.  My point is that if Dole wants to use this
>"reasoning," someone should point out to him what it means regarding Bush.

       The difference being that Bill Clinton will be in the White House 
come January, not George Bush.  Bush's popular approval is unimportant at 
this point, while Clinton's matters.

       Not that either matter very much.

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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: The real Dan Quayle
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:16:55 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
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v115r4q5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Perry M Jowsey) writes:

>  I recently posted a statement which called for some respect to the Vice Pres-
> ident Dan Quayle, and it was met with a slew of negative comments.  What I ask
> all those people who are quick to bash Quayle is to take a step back and look
> at the man with an unbiased attitude.

Okay, I'm stepping back ... I'm looking ...

Add one little bit on the end...  Think of 'potatoe,' how's it spelled?  
You're right phonetically, but what else...?  There ya go... all right!
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle correcting a student's
                   correct spelling of the word "potato"  during
                   a spelling bee at an elementary school in Trenton.

I should have caught the mistake on that spelling bee card.  But 
as Mark Twain once said, "You should never trust a man who has only 
one way to spell a word."
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle, actually quoting from 
                   President Andrew Jackson.

I should have remembered that was Andrew Jackson who said that, since
he got his nickname "Stonewall" by vetoing bills passed by Congress.
		-- Vice President Dan Quayle, confusing Andrew Jackson
		   with Confederate General Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson,
		   who actually got his nickname at the first Battle of
		   Bull Run.

... Nope, he's still a brainless twit.


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