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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:37:55 CST
From: <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: 1.4 Meg drive for Mac II

You may also want to try the AE Plus Drive. It plugs into the external drive po
rt of the Mac. It will read Mac 800K and 1.4meg and IBM 720K and 1.4meg. Everyt
hing needed is built into the drive. It only costs about $300 by mail order.

Because it is not a SCSI drive, you don't have to worry about SCSI numbers, ter
mination, etc. Also, I don't think it needs an init to work, since it plugs int
o the floppy drive port. I could be wrong on this point though. I do know that
it works very well with AccessPC, etc.

Now you are saying, but I have a Mac II, I don't have an external drive port. T
rue, and Applied Engineering knows this too, that's why they will sell you a ca
ble that plugs into the interal drive port on the Mac II's. I think the cable c
osts about $45. All in all, a good deal. And I think  it's still cheaper than t
he PLI TurboFloppy and SuperFloppy.


Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater)
Subject: Re: Motorola's 68060 for the Mac
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:59:21 GMT

In article <1k7c2mINNohh@shelley.u.washington.edu> whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore) writes:
>In article <D2150056.oaq0me@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>
>>> >The 68000 contains no MMU, nor is it possible to implement virtual memory
>>> >with the 68000 - there are some instructions that could not be restarted
>>> >following a page fault.
>
>	It IS possible; one must use a lot of hardware to do it,
>
Interestingly enough, in 1979 I went to a presentation hosted by one of the
local resellers on the 68000 (they also hosted talks on the 8086 and Z8000).
There was a Motorola engineer there, who was eventually asked whether the chip
supported demand paging. He though for a moment, then said that they had looked
at that but felt it would take too much chip real estate to be able to save
enough state so that any instruction could be restarted. So at that time, the
answer was No.

A SLAC colleague has told me that Motorola looked again at the question, and
found that it could actually be done quite easily. Thus was born the 68010.

Now, my question is, why was the 68000 not dropped at that time and the '010
adopted as the 'main' chip. I have heard of the 68010 being used in some boxes
but it has not had a big exposure in the market. Why is this?

tin

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: thor@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (Mark Ian Rubin)
Subject: Speeding Up a 4D database on an SE-30
Keywords: Speed, Database, 4D
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:57:54 GMT

	
Hi,

My Dad has two SE-30's sharing a 4D database.  Both machines have 5 Megs
of RAM and 80 Meg Hard Drives.  They are connected using ethernet.  The "First"
computer is the one where the database resides.  

The problem is this:

SPEED!!!

The database is about 40 Megs and when both computers are acessing the
information, text entry is very slow.  (About 30 Seconds for the Second
computer to accept information and send it the First computer) Forget about 
running reports (About 15 minutes to generate a list of people who, for  
example, haven't been in the office for the last three months.)  It even takes
about 10 minutes to run a report the second computer is not on!!

I know that the database is very disk intensive, but will a 50 MHz accelerator
speed things up significantly?  Any other suggestions??

Thanks for your help.

Please send E-Mail to :
thor@wam.umd.edu

Later on,

Mark
From: jrg@punch (James R. Goble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Memory upgrades on a Mac Plus
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:01:17 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA

In article <21200.2B595950@zeus.ieee.org>  
Norm.Walker@f1003.n130.z1.ieee.org (Norm Walker) writes:
> NP> I want to upgrade a Mac Plus from 1 MB to 4 MB. Is this simply a
> NP> case of purchasing the right SIMM strips and plugging them into the
> NP> appropriate slots on the motherboard? What else must be done? Any
> NP> information on memory upgrades for the Mac Plus will be
> NP> appreciated.
>  
> Cut resistor "R8" on the motherboard.  That's all there is to it.
> Later,
> Norman
> 
> --  
> =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
>  Norm Walker - Internet: Norm.Walker@f1003.n130.z1.ieee.org

Also, and more important!  Buy a grounding strap!  Never, never, never,  
touch thoses SIMMs in an ungrounded state.  Static electricity is very bad  
in the Winter.
From: umandru1@umanitoba.ca (John Andrusiak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Accelerating an SE by upgrading the 68000 to 16mhz?
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:55:44 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78B8E24B1017214@umandppp.dial.umanitoba.ca>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 00:56:04 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

In article <1k3pmsINNmq9@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> Chandima Cumaranatunge,
chan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu writes:
>"you could just accellerate the 68000 chip in your SE from 8mhz to 16mhz
>That would make it as fast as the SE/30 in the lab.  This would cost
>approximately 150 dollars US, but it is alot cheaper than adding a 68020
>or 68030!"
>
>I need to speed up an SE which is being used as a file server (using
>System 7 file sharing) on a small AppleTalk network.
>
>Several questions on this:
>------------------------- 
>Has anyone tried this? 
>Are there any architectural limitations on the motherboard to doing this?
>Can the local Mac agent install the new processor?
>Is it really as cheap as this?

I don't think so. In general you cannot speed up a computer by putting a
faster processor in. The IIsi speedup was a exception caused by the
triumph of marketing over engineering.

Putting in 16 MHz processor won't do any harm, but it won't do any good.
Putting in a new oscillator with the processor will almost certainly
fail. it probably won't physically damage the computer, but it won't run,
and that 's >probably< won't damage it.

The technical explanation is that there are other chips that will only
run a 8 Mhz. If you upgraded all the chips then it would work. However,
some of the chips are Apple's custom chips, and will never be availible
at a higher speed. This is why the IIsi works at a higher speed. The
chips that need to be faster were already faster and were slowed down on
purpose.

--------------
John Andrusiak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: Re: 21M Flopticals?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:01:11 GMT

In article <93023.214617U59985@uicvm.uic.edu> <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>The 21meg flopticals run about $500 and the disks themselves are very expensive
>. If you can't even affort a Plus Drive, how can you afford one of these?
>
>I think each 21meg disk costs over $10 right now. And you have to buy them in b
>oxes of ten.

A friend of mine just bought one (not sure of brand though) for $350 and it came with one 21 meg disk.  He bought 3 more since the smallest quantity he could buy was 3.

JT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ianstey@texan.rosemount.com (Ian Steyaert)
Subject: Why doesn't the PowerBook retain clor monitor settings?
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:10:32 GMT

I have a PowerBook Duo 210 with DuoDock, and when I hook it up to a color 
monitor, I change the monitors control panel to 256 colors.  However, when I 
reboot, the control panel setting reverts to 16 shades of gray.  What's the
deal?


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ap-poly.581@n7kbt.rain.com ()
Subject: PB Plugged In?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:56:20 GMT

Does anyone know if it is ok to leave a PowerBook plugged in most of the
time?
From: costin@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Dan Costin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What modems have fax, DTMF and Voice Mail?
Date: 20 Jan 93 21:41:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Cognitive Science, UCSD

In article <1993Jan19.024413.21904@news.uiowa.edu> kgoodwin@icaen.uiowa.edu (Kirk W Goodwin) writes:
>
>>Try Dove fax plus!
>
>Or even better...  Try the ZyXEL...

And where, may I ask, does one get ZyXEL voice software for the mac?
The DoveFax Pro + voice has 14.4, voice, good software (STFfax),
and advertises that it can automatically switch to AppleTalk Remote Access!
Finally, if I understand this right, a modem that does voice, fax, and
modem hookups in the same mode!

I have my order in (backordered a few weeks :-( ) so we'll see if
it performs as advertised.  I've only seen it at $500+, but Dove
has an upgrade from the 2400 DoveFax+ for about $400 ($350 if you turn in
your old DoveFax).

Disclaimer: I don't work for Dove, just am very happy with my DoveFax+.
I love it when it calls me at work to tell me a message came in.

-dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: elenay_creations@tcs.las-vegas.nv.us (Anthony D. Saxton)
Organization: Cyber Sanctum
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:47:22 PST
Subject: Re: Housings for Hard Disks

>> I have an old internal hard drive, 3.5 inch in diameter.  It's still a good
>> hard disk, but I have no machines that need or want a new internal hard
>> disk.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone knows of a company that just sells housings for
>> hard disks so that I may make it into an external disk drive.

Look in the back of ANY Mac Mag. Most of the "Used" Mac dealers sell HD
Enclosures for about $100...

Anthony D. Saxton
Elenay* Creations

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rfeldman@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Bob Feldman)
Subject: Upgrading Mac Plus memory (continued)
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:53:18 GMT


I recently posted a question in this group about problems we're having upgrading
a Mac Plus from 2.5 megabytes to 4 megabytes.  Thanks to the many people who
responded, indicating that resistors R8 and R9 need to be cut.  I went and
checked and they are indeed cut (actually, one is cut and one isn't there).  So
I'm still puzzled as to why the Mac Plus won't boot properly with 4 megabytes. 
The vendor who sold us the additional 2 megabytes claims that they worked when we
returned them (two separate attempts:one set was 70 ns access, the other
100 ns).  

Do all 4 sets of megabyte chips have to have the same access time? (Our current
working set says "M8" on the chips, so I'm guessing they're 80 ns.) Is there
anything else anyone can think of that might be causing this problem?

Sincerely,
Bob Feldman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wang_dj@hull.cs.jhu.edu (David J. Wang)
Subject: Re: Duo Trackball
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:55:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.171908.28821@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> prj@gamba.lcs.mit.edu (Paul R. Johnson) writes:
>Does anyone know how to open the Duo trackball for cleaning?
>It does not seem to be designed for user maintenance.
>
>---Paul Johnson

It can be opened with a slightly forced twist counter-clockwise.

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
David J. Wang                                    CAUTION!
wang_dj@server.cs.jhu.edu                SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION!
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Will the CD300i fit in the drive bay of a Quadra 950?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:30:43 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: tea.eng.umd.edu

In article <C1GvMp.B63@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell) writes:
>
>    This is a definate yes. Apple hasn't suddenly come out with a new
>internal drive standard that on the P600/IIvx conform to. I'm pretty
>sure that the CD300i fits very nicely in a 3.5" internal drive bay.

Unless CDs have gotten much smaller, I hope that is supposed to read 
5.25" internal drive bay

-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: zmyd02@hou.amoco.com (Denton Meredith)
Subject: Re: Crooked Screen on Mac Classic
Reply-To: zmyd02@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:51:42 GMT

In article 1388@mksol.dseg.ti.com, martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com (niels r martin) writes:
>I noticed something strange when I turned on my Classic this evening--the 
>portion of the screen that is actually used is _crooked_ in relation to the
>screen itself.  I have not noticed this previously, and would certainly 
>appreciate any insight on what could be the cause and how to (cheaply?!) cure
>it.
>
>Thanks for your input--please e-mail any responses to me at martinn@mksol.
>dseg.ti.com and I will summarize the responses to the net.
>
>Regards,
>
>Niels
>
>
>-- 
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Niels Martin			   |                      
>martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com	   | Quos deus vult perdere prius dementat!
>My opinions don't represent my employer's--but they're right!



I have an SE/30 that developed the same problem after I moved it about a
year ago...talked to an authorized apple repairman, who told me that what
happened was that the video tube rotated slightly with respect to the case
(probably as a result of a bump to the side of the case).  Apparently
it's a quick matter to fix, although he _did not_ recommend that I do it
myself...too much danger of touching the wrong thing and knocking myself
across the room.  He said it takes only minutes to fix, i.e., you'll have
to pay your authorized dealer whatever their minimum service charge is.
(There is was $25.)  Alternatively, you can leave it alone, and he said there'd
be no ill effect to your Mac.  I haven't ever had mine fixed, as the tilt is
small.

Meredith Denton
Amoco Production Company
Houston, Texas
From: wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple 13" HiRes RGB Monitor Failure
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:49:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


At work, where we have about a dozen 13" Apple HiRes monitors in use,
I've had 3 of them go bad just as you describe over the past 3 years.
The problem was a flaky high-voltage capacitor (at least that's what
the repair shop claimed each time), which is supposedly a common
problem with the older 13" from Apple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: abbestee@cs.vu.nl (Wouter Abbestee)
Subject: Re: PhoneNET
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:23:57 GMT


Hello,

Isn't it possible to use a stylewriter-cable to hook up two macs? Or could this dammage the powersupply?

wouter
From: ujfrye@mcs.drexel.edu (Jason Frye)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: new IIsi kerplunk?
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:46:20 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

In article <1jmueeINNmd5@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.PEC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Doug Peckler) writes:
>I have some concerns about the new IIsi that i got last week.   It
>came with a very light version of Hypercard called Hypercard Player,
>which I gather is supposed to inspire people to buy the Hypercard
>Development software.  Anyway I was trying to use the 'magic'
>command that someone said allows one to develop stacks without buyng
>the software.  I never succeeded but did succeed in having the
>computer freeze up while in the application.  There are no reset
>buttons on this Mac.  Doing command-control-shift-escape  didn't  do
>anything.  I had no choice but to turn off the power.
>Since then i've noticed that when I turn on the computer, it whirrs
>and then makes a very audible 'kerplunk' sound before starting up.
>Another IIsi I have access to doesn't do this.   Also, I installed
>Word 5.1a.  I notice the balloon help for Word is very slow,and so
>is deleting after selecting text.
>
>I'd love any suggestions or diagnoses.  Did turning  the  power  off
>injure  the computer?  Should I contact Apple?
>
>P.S.  The Mac came with system 7.1. and this is the 5 mb ram
>configuration.  Also the bookstore wasn't able  to  get  the  80  mb
>drive  that  came  with  the  bundle  offer, so I was given a 160 mb
>drive, which  delights  me,  especially  if  i  can  fix  the  above
>problems.
>
>PPS.  Am I posting to the right newsgroup?
>Thanks a lot.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ziesman@uswest.com (Craig Ziesman)
Subject: Mac Touch Screen
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:24:17 GMT

Can anybody recommend a touchscreen for the Mac?  I need to put together a 
kiosk, and will be using either a 12" or 13" Apple display.
From: ckuznia@aludra.usc.edu ( Ckuznia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Quick question about PB160 RAM
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:09:52 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

The PB160s come with minimum 4MB RAM.  Is this 2MB soldiered in and a 2MB
card or 4MB soldiered?  The reason I'm asking is if I want to mail
order RAM, do I need a 4 or 6 MB RAM card to get to 8MB?  

While I'm at it, I can upgrade to 8MB for $250 at USC (including
installation).  Can I do better mail ordering, considering that I'd
have to pay additional for installation?  If you know a good mail
order number, please let me know.

Thank you,

Charlie

===========================================================================
Charlie Kuznia				* ckuznia@aludra.usc.edu
University of Southern California	* 
Signal and Image Processing Institute	* a man a plan a canal panama
===========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jrg@punch (James R. Goble)
Subject: Re: HELP -- power supply amps
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:37:29 GMT

In article <1js9boINNf7m@savoy.cc.williams.edu> 93kwt@williams.edu (Wayne  
Thomas) writes:
> 
> The power supply in my SE/30 is dead, and I would like to replace it
> with the small power supply out of a decommissoned (read:useless)
> Leading Edge XT in my office, not only because this is cheap but
> because the size of the Leading Edge supply will allow me to stay in
> my Mac case. However, the -5v output of the Leading Edge supply is
> about 1 amp lower than the current output of the SE/30 ps (the rest of
> the leads provide way more than the amps provided by the Mac supply,
> as one would expect). Does anyone out there know about the minimum
> amps needed by an SE/30 board (and hard drive), or know where I can
> look this up?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Wayne

Sorry Wayne,

Even if the Leading Edge power supply provided all of the power you need  
you couldn't use it.  I think the SE/30 includes the screen driver on the  
power supply board.  The Leading Edge is just a power supply.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Subject: Re: Quadra VRAM vs graphics card
Keywords: DuoDock Video
Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:54:20 GMT

pino@gammow.berkeley.edu.CosmicSuns writes ...
>How does the performance of the built in video on the DuoDock compare
>to that of the Quadra.  I already know that it will only support
>up to 16" screens (vs. 21 for the quadra).  But in terms of speed?

Well, I haven't seen any numbers or used the Duo, so the following is
conjecture.  But consider that the Duo uses a 68030 processor with
low-power being the main concern, and the Quadra uses a 68040 with
high-speed being the main concern.  Draw your own conclusions.

A few weeks ago I had occasion to use my original Mac+ for some quick
work.  I noted with some amusement that my Quadra 700 was faster at
drawing in 32-bit color on my 16" monitor than the Mac+ was at drawing 
in 1-bit black and white on its 9" monitor.

I like this business.

-- 
Ray Fischer                   "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
ray@netcom.com                 than lies."  -- Friedrich Nietszsche
From: 93kwt@williams.edu (Wayne Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Stylewriter II vs HP Deskwriter
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:59:20 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbird.cc.williams.edu

In article <1993Jan19.194905.13206@cs.yale.edu> lionel@fractal.math.yale.edu (Lionel Woog) writes:

>It seems that the original stylewriter with the latest stylewriter
>driver (not the stylewriter II driver) is pretty much the same speed
>as the new stylewriter.
>
>Lionel

OK -- but (to ask a question that's been asked before) where is the
current stylewriter driver available? Also, what is its version
number?

WT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: New Macs Supporting 16"ers...hmmm
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:47:40 GMT

In article <1k4t30INNkgj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Travis Grundke) wrote:
> 
> floated around here and in MacWEEK that Apple is trying to push 16"
> monitors as the 'future' standard. Is it me or is this rapidly occuring?

I don't see how Apple is "pushing" anything.  It's not as if the builtin
video doesn't support 13" monitors any longer.  For people who want to
spend the extra money on a 16" monitor, it's nice not to have to buy a
video card if you don't need to.

Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.

lsr@taligent.com
From: wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: hp deskwriters
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:33:30 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <43923@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, ee52fas@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Anand Rao)
wrote:
> 
> i am a little confused here....I was under the impression that
> hewlett- packard makes a distinction between the deskwriter for the
> mac and the deskwriter for the ibm.  the deskwriter for the mac is
> called simply 'deskwriter' while the deskwriter for the ibm is
> called the 'deskwriter 500/500c/550/550c'.  have i been led astray
> on this????  

Yes.  Deskwriters of any sort are Macintosh peripherals.  The corresponding
PC peripherals are called DeskJETS.

-tony

>>usual disclaimer<<
From: lawrence@mail.isc-br.com (Lawrence Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Floppy Write Protect Sensor Problem
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:02:58 GMT
Organization: Olivetti North America

I have an SE/30 with a High Density drive.  Lately, the drive insists that 
most of the disks I insert are write-protected when , in fact, they are not.
If I eject and reinsert the disk, the lock indicator will eventually go out.
Sometimes this takes several tries.  This problem is becoming more frequent.

I have tried cleaning the sensor post with disk head cleaning solution, but
it doesnUt seem to help.  Has anyone had similar problems?  Is there a fix
that doesnUt involve replacing the drive?

Thanks, Lawrence

____________________________________________________________________________
When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not;
but my faculties are decaying now and soon I shall be so I cannot remember 
any but the things that never happened.  It is sad to go to pieces like this, 
but we all have to do it.  ---  Mark Twain
____________________________________________________________________________
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        	       	 Liberty Lake, Washington, USA
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