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From: mico@milano.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Michele Costabile)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Sound Blaster to play calculated samples
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:18:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

Hello everybody,

I would like to start experimenting in sound producing algorithms and
electronic composition.
I think that good algorithms can produce interesting sounds, different
sounds and high quality sounds.
I think I would try to define some instruments and the write parts for
each of them and then have a big file with the sum of all waveforms and
play it.
I was thinking to use the Sound Blaster, or rather a competitor's model
that is compatible but has 16 bit DACs on board.
Do you think that this kind of approach is doomed to failure for some
reason I cannot see at the moment?
some issues are:
- will the sound quality be of CD grade or amateurial?
- where do I find interesting algorithms?
- is there a tool or a language that I can use to develop my scores?
- did any of you try a similar approach?
I am interested in feedback by those of you that went on a similar path.
Thanks again.

Michele

	    "don't panic, it's not my fault, said the Page"
From: leongaw@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Ak Wing Leong)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:48:19 GMT
Subject: Re: WANTED: "MacGyver" theme sheet music
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.music

Anyone who has could please let me have a copy too ? My email is hpmalrnd.mal.
Thanks much.

leong ( fan of MacGyver or McIver ?)
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: miguele@lotatg.lotus.com (Miguel A. Estrada)
Subject: EPS 4X and SCSI for $1090.  Barely used.  Box, manuals, sounds...
Organization: Lotus Development Corp.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:31:56 GMT

I have had this baby under a nice cover for quite a while and since I'm  
not using it, I've decided to sell it.

Ensoniq EPS with 4X memory expander/SCSI adapter
Manuals and all boxes.
Software to manage EPS diskettes in MSDOS Computer
Cover.
$1090 + Shipping (if necessary)

--
Disclaimer: I do not speak for my employer.
From: 92marsh@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: e-mail music software
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:08:25 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

         Hello,
           I followed the recently published (on this newsgroup)
         instructions to contact listserv@muvm.bitnet, the emusic
         group.  I had the only line of the file read "get emusic
         filelist".  It did not work.  What did I do wrong?

         Charles
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: cottle@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (David M. Cottle)
Subject: Re: Why use a PC for Music?
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:13:22 GMT

In article <21JUL199212310324@utrcv1> raybro@utrcv1 (William R(ay) Brohinsky) writes:
>In article <BrLHKM.CL@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cottle@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (David M. Cottle) writes...
>
>> 
>>I think Lime is just as powerful, and more so since you can use it! (as
>>you've noted below, what good is a VCR if you can't figure it out?).
>>
>
>I'll bite. What's a Lime? What platforms does it run on, is it commercial,
>what are it's purpose and capabilities?
>

I should preface my opinion with a disclaimer: Up until about 
four weeks ago I was just a user.  I've now been asked to help
with customer support, so my opinion is biased.

With that in mind:

Lime is the Mac version of the interactive music system written
for Plato at UIUC.  I think it's been around since the '70s.
I have learned and worked with Finale, HB Engraver, DMCS, and
Score.  In a nutshell, Lime has the power of Finale, the
accesibility of a standard word processor (very intuitive) at
about 1/4 the cost of Finale.  It's the program we teach to our
incoming freshmen, yet I have produced a number of scores
professionally.  It worked well, and stood up to the exacting
standards of art composers and publishers.  A lot of our
musicologists have started using it for examples in theses and
tests (proving its versitility in non-traditional notation).

We've given a number of seminars and people with practically no
experience in computers (some don't even know how to use a mouse)
are producing respectible four part, or piano/vocal works
complete with text and annotations after a week.  One high school
band teacher, who is getting his master's this summer, taught
himself the program and produced a 15 or so part band score with
score and parts in (so he told me) about 10 hours (that includes
learning the program!!).  

Here is where you can get more information (copied from the
user's manual cover):

If you would like to purchase Lime, call (217)-244-4298.  A
demonstration version of Lime is available at a reduced price.
Institutional sites may purchase Lime with special arrangements.  If you
have questions or comments about Lime, use the NovaNET notesfile
(instructions for the use of the notesfile are included when you
purchase Lime).  Alternatively, write personal notes to
lippold/musician/cerl, send electronic mail to L-Haken@uiuc.edu send a
fax to Lippold Haken at (217) 244-0793, or write to Lippold Haken, 252
ERL, 103 S Mathews, Urbana, IL, 61801-2077 USA.

The cost of Lime is $160.  Upgrades are free on request.  Prices
subject to change.  Lime is currently available for Macintosh; 
a PC version is under development.  

Customer support is available by calling (217) 244-6686.  (Generally
there is a real person to answer the phone --me-- Mon., Wed., and Fri.
mornings.  Other times you'll get a recorder.) 



Dave Cottle
Lime Customer Support
CERL Sound Group at UIUC

(217) 244-6686
Lime@uiuc.edu
From: hp48sx@wupost.wustl.edu (HP48SX Archive Maintainer)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Looking for [A]IFF file format
Date: 29 Jul 1992 10:39:07 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: wuarchive.wustl.edu

I am looking for some docs describing the IFF sound format.
The docs I have in inside Macintosh does not coversome of those headers
in the Amiga sound files .iff I have got. A pointer to an ftp site is
OK.
-- 
Povl H. Pedersen             hp48sx@wuarchive.wustl.edu
HP48sx archive maintainer

All Opinions (C) Copyright the Integalactic Thought Association
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth
From: shorio@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Shigenori Horio)
Subject: Need help to find fundamental frequency
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:58:53 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407

Hello!  I recently started learning signal processing algorithms for my thesis.
I have some problems understanding the theory and converting it to the C code.
My theis deals with musical instruments' acoustic signals and finding its
fundamental frequencies.

I am testing this with my Amiga 3000, getting a 8 bit long signal from parallel
port. Right now I am playing an electoric guitar and sending the signal to the
port. Hopefully, I would like to find a sequence of the fundamental frequencies
from the input singal in real-time.  

Now, my questions are:

	Is there any fast algorithms written in any programming language that
retrieves the fundamental frequency without going through FFT algorithm?

	If not, I think I understand that I have to make a window (array of
N elements, x[n]) and pass this to DFT alorithm, and move the window to the
next sampling data by N or N/2.

I have gotten some of the DFT alorithms written in C such as fft() and realfft()
which inputs a data array(size sixteen) and returning an output array which is
also the size sixteen, x[16].  Now, to find the fundamental frequency out of
the output array, do I have to go through all the elements in the array and find
the maximum value in x[k]? (Does it need N times comparisons for the window
size N: x[N]?)  Does this bring to the result that the fundamental frequency
is (R / 16) * k?  Also, can the input data array be the 8 bit long signal that
I am getting from the port?

	Any kind of advice, suggestions, corrections, or coding is rally 
appreciated.

-Fory Horio (shorio@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu
             or shorio@bach.csc.calpoly.edu)
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: WE NEED IDEAS
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:50:00 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

To whom it may concern:

Hello,
I am the new director of vocal and commercial music studies at
the Irvine Conservatory of Music in Irvine, California.  We are in
need of references and assistance from anyone in securing 
funding for scolarships, equipment, etc.  If anyone out there is 
going to be in our area and would sponsor a fund raising event
please drop me a line.  Any advice or other information, references would
be greatly appreciated (I am new to running a department and my 
vision is to supplemant all performance studies with a solid 
foundation in ear training and music theory, as well as to encourage
composition.).  We teach mostly young kids and teenagers and I wish to use the 
pop medium as supplementary means to introduce other types of music and musical 
concepts.  Our methods are pooled from Kodaly, Orff, Dalcroz and 
Sazuki and we currently have approximately 145 students.  We are
in a process of expanding our curriculum to include the study of 
commercial music and I want to firmly establish a modern listening
lab using Macintosh and DOS computers networked to a NeXT.  We have 
facilities and tours can be arranged at almost any time.
Corrospondence regarding donations or further information (brochures, etc.) can
be sent to:

The Irvine Conservatory of Music
P.O. Box 3361
Costa Mesa, CA 92628
Attn. Maurice Shihadi
maurices@spock.DIS.CCCD.edu

All donations are tax deductable.  Thank you.
From: rahansen@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Dark Techie)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.synth
Subject: SysEx command for Cakewalk
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:39:52 GMT
Organization: University of Denver

Do any of you gurus that use Cakewalk or Cakewalk for Windows have an exact
idea how to create a SysEx macros for an unlisted synth?  I am looking for
one to do a bulk dump of my DW-8000.  I understand that this may not work
(according to my recently re-found manual) because the synth requires a hand-
shake.  I thank any and all in advance.

Dark Techie
From: tpearson@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Trevor Pearson)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: .sng <-> .mid
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:41:32 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia

gautemyk@idt.unit.no (Gaute Myklebust) writes:
> Hi
> 
> I am looking for a program to convert between .sng and .mid files.
> 
> Does anyone know a ftp site where I could find a program to do this bit 
> of work for me.
> 
> Thanks


 You will need to be more specific. The SNG extension has been used by a
number of software companies for incompatible formats. Also what machine
is the program to run on ?

> 
> Gaute
> -- 
> Gaute Myklebust (Doctoral Student)           | E-mail: gautemyk@idt.unit.no
> Division of Telematics and Computer Science  | Phone: +47-7-594458
> The Norwegian Institute of Technology        | Adr. Singsaker Studenterhjem
> N-7034 TRONDHEIM, NORWAY                     | N-7016 TRONDHEIM, NORWAY

 *****************************************
 * Trevor Pearson                        *
 * TRL. Clayton, Australia               *
From: miller@cs.rochester.edu (Brad Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: What is this group for?
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:01:25 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester


Not to be a weenie, but this group is looking more and more 
like rec.music.synth every day. I thought it was about
computer applications to music, not sales, looking for patches, etc.

I don't have the time to wade through low s/n ratio groups. 
This group used to be pretty good. It isn't anymore.


--
----
Brad Miller             U. Rochester Comp Sci Dept.
miller@cs.rochester.edu {...allegra!rochester!miller}
-- 
----
Brad Miller             U. Rochester Comp Sci Dept.
miller@cs.rochester.edu {...allegra!rochester!miller}
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: HELP! Mac MIDI questions!!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:58:01 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Jul29.154854.22520@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> jmwise@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ms. Johanna Wise) writes:
>
>ok....
>I will have a new Mac IIsi and a Kurtzweil EGP-K and Coda "Finale" .
>does ANYBODY know what kind of adaptor i have to get for my Mac??
>what about where I can get this adaptor???
>who i can call?? consult?
>
>also, is there a MIDI  FAQ floating around??? I am a brand new user
>of MIDI but an old-timer to the music indusdtry and really could use
>some help. Please send me a copy of the faq if you can get a hold of one.
>
>Thanks so much!!
>Jo.
>-- 
>Johanna M. Wise                         VMS: jmwise@gold.ucs.indiana.edu
>Music is a life-long love affair.      NeXT: jmwise@cherokee.ucs.indiana.edu
>                                       Unix: jmwise@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu

A standard DIN 8 from a Mac printer (or modem port) to a MIDI interface
(Check Opcode or Mark of the Unicorn) will do.  Then buy yourself a book
and get to it.

maurices
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: MIDI Merge
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:17:25 -0700
Reply-To: sean@digaudio.byu.edu

In article <45701@shamash.cdc.com>  writes:
> In article <1992Jul27.105227.846@yvax.byu.edu>, feijai@endor.byu.edu
> (Sean Luke) writes:
> |>Does anyone know where I can get an inexpensive MIDI 2->1 merge box  
(or
> |>bigger)?  Anatek is selling Pocket Merges for $100 apiece!  (We're  
talking
> |>about $10-15 worth of parts here).
> 
> Not as simple as you think. Complete multi-byte midi messages
> have to be preserved in-total from each input. That means if
> one input receives the first byte of a midi message, it has
> to be saved until the message is completely recieved. 

Or it could just be a couple of buffers and a little state machine.  A  
FIFO memory design might take care of much of the problem alone.



> BTW, the scheme outlined above may cause long sysex transfers
> to fail. 

Absolutely.  I should have mentioned in my post that I DON'T need SYSEX  
transfer stuff.  I do that so little that I might as well just hook up the  
cord straight anyway (it makes better sense, too, since running SYSEX  
stuff through a merge AND a MIDI patchbay isn't the smartest thing to do)



> OK, now who knows of a suitable processor that will run off
> a battery, with embedded EPROM, small RAM, and 2-3 bi-directional
> serial ports that will run at MIDI speed?

Considering that Anatek does theirs running entirely off of power from the  
MIDI spec, it seems it oughta be easier than using a processor method.  I  
think a state machine and a few buffers might do the trick, but...beats me  
how to implement it.



I should have mentioned that I'll eventually need 3 of the little beasts  
to get my system up to where I want it.  But, heck, my school can get MIDI  
Time Pieces for $400 (discounted), which do routing and complete merging  
for up to 8 bays and 128 channels, PLUS ins and outs to a Mac.  Given  
this, $100 for a teensy little 2->1 Anatek Pocket Merge seems rather  
steep.
 

Any ideas?
--

Sean Luke
Brigham Young University                   MILK:  It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu  
NeXTmail and nifty Mac stuff welcome
From: xeno@iastate.edu (Gary L Snethen)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Cheap MIDI PC board
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:35:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: pv7b87.xeno.711992125
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

I am looking for a decent, inexpensive MIDI board for a PC.
I don't need oodles of features (like built-in synthesizers, etc...)
I DO need a board that comes with a genuine set of MIDI IN/OUT/THRU ports
if possible.

Please supply me with the vendor's name and address if available (telephone
numbers would be GREAT) and the price of the board.

Thanks in advance,

   Gary Snethen
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jpl@world.std.com (John P Lamar)
Subject: MAX Concert in Boston at Berklee College of Music during MacWorld
Summary: Exciting concert of music done with Opcode's MAX at Berklee
Keywords: MAX, music, Berklee
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:37:14 GMT

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                        A N  I N T E R A C T I V E  
 
          R E A L - T I M E  M U L T I M E D I A   C O N C E R T
 
 
             Featuring The MAX Development Group at Berklee 
              under the Direction of Dr. Richard Boulanger
                    
                        Special Guest Performers
                 *****David Zicarelli of Opcode Systems*****
               *****Neil Leonard of Mass College of Art******
                 
**Virtual Performance Instruments**
 
                           **DrumKat Controlled 3-D Graphics**
                               
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                          **Interactive Fractal Music**
                            
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Experience the next generation of virtuoso performance.
 
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              Dan Keldsen
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**********************************************************************
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**********************************************************************
 
          Berklee College of Music-Music Synthesis Recital Hall
                      22 The Fenway-Room F12
                      Boston, Massachusetts
  Adjacent to Boston Consevertory-Hynes/ICA subway stop on the Green Line
                     
If you are in Boston for MacWorld- Come over for a great musical experience.
Seating is limited-call for reservations. 617-266-1400 (Music Synthesis Dept.)
 
For more info: Email John Lamar (jpl@world.std.com)
                    




Newsgroups: comp.music
From: beltran@ns.network.com (Tony R. Beltran)
Subject: Re: MIDI Merge
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:18:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.203841.26867@odin.corp.sgi.com> archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully) writes:
>In <45701@shamash.cdc.com> ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718) writes:
>
>*In article <1992Jul27.105227.846@yvax.byu.edu>, feijai@endor.byu.edu
>*(Sean Luke) writes:
>*|>Does anyone know where I can get an inexpensive MIDI 2->1 merge box (or  
>*|>bigger)?  Anatek is selling Pocket Merges for $100 apiece!  (We're talking  
>*|>about $10-15 worth of parts here).
>*
>*Not as simple as you think. Complete multi-byte midi messages
>*have to be preserved in-total from each input. 
>
>I might add that I have a Pocket Merge, and IMHO it is inadequate.  It
>generates its own version of active (non)sense that retransmits the data
>bytes that it last merged along w/active sense.  STOOPID.
>
>                    Archer Sully <archer@sgi.com>          
>

You may want to look for a Yamaha MCS-2 (MIDI Control Station).  It has
much more than MIDI merge, but you should be able to find one for less
than $100.  It is about the size of the TX7 and has pitch bend, modulation
wheels, two sliders for generating just about any midi control you want -
as well as a two input midi merge.  One of the inputs is filtered so you
don't get two midi clocks merged.

Tony



Xref: sparky comp.music:3834 rec.music.synth:12706
From: john@sdacs.ucsd.edu (John Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth
Subject: Csound for 286/386
Keywords: acoustic compilers
Date: 25 Jul 92 22:18:07 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Has anyone out there been able to get Csound to work on their
286/386 machines?  I downloaded Csound via ftp from
ftp.bath.ac.uk:pub/jpff and it seemed to create soundfiles ok but
when I tried to read in the soundfile I found that there were EOF
markers at various intervals.  Its quite perplexing that the
soundfile gets created at all because an EOF marker generally stops
output to any file (breaks the pipe) when it is reached.  In my
case the Csound compiler creates a 60K file on my disk for the
1st Csound example program but there is an EOF marker at about 10K
which breaks the input pipe on my sample editor program read routine.
I haven't tried running the 286 version on my 386 yet, but perhaps
I'll try that next.  

If anyone out there knows of any other acoustic compilers, please
speak up and tell me.  I'd love to get one of them running on my
home machine.

P.S.  If anyone needs the Csound manual, I might be able to help
      them out.  I already had one and I didn't notice one avail-
      able from the FTP listed above.  It might be in the source
      though.


john@sdacs.ucsd.edu

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: ktsmith@cs.wm.edu (Kevin T. Smith)
Subject: MIDI/SOUNDBLASTER STUFF
Organization: The College of William and Mary
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:34:25 GMT

I just recently bought a soundblaster pro, and I have found
that MIDI mixing is a serious pain!! It seems that I am better off
getting a 4 track mixer ! Does anyone know the relative prices 
on 4 tracks?
Thanks,
Kevin
(Please respond to ktsmith@cebafi.cebaf.gov)

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia)
Subject: Re: music software
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:04:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.222505.22129@Cadence.COM> stevep@Cadence.COM (Steve Peterson) writes:
>>Eric Eisenhandler, Dept. of Physics, Queen Mary & Westfield College,
>>University of London. EFE @ V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK
>
>[asks for comments on various software packages including Finale]
>
>
>   Let me highly reccomend FINALE over Encore. FINALE is not as difficult
to learn as is commonly asserted- learning to input and edit simple conventionalmusic takes almost no time at all. The aspects of FINALE that will require time
and effort to learn are the features which make FINALE far more powerful than
Encore. These are the features which you will appreciate the most once you've
invested the time to learn to use them. The price of FINALE for people with
an affiliation with an academic institution (Student, Faculty, or Staff)a
s actually only $250. 
    I have heard alot of good things about another program called LIME which
I have not used myself. Much has recently been posted to this group about
LIME. Lastly, several of my friends who do professional copying work tell
me that they think SCORE is the best and that the publishing companies that
contract them prefer to recieve this format. Again I have not used this 
myself but would be interested to hear what others say about it.

Good Luck.