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From: sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie)
Subject: Re: DSP: It's about time for the 96002
Keywords: dsp 56001 96002
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:14:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.180415.26582@cs.ucla.edu> esky@mayhem.icsl.ucla.edu writes:
>
>Why not NeXT? I mean, Ariel has come out with PC boards using the 96001  
>"Multimedia" DSP chip from Motorola.
>
[munch]  
>
>a 33-MHz 96002 processes 16.5 MIPS and 49 MFLOPS.  The dual 88110 CPUs being  
>rumored lately beat this chip in the MIPS, but do they have the MFLOPS?  I  
>think it would be a good idea to use it in both 040 and (if ever) 88110  
>systems.
>
>What do you think?
>
>Eskandar Ensafi --- esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu, esky@mayhem.icsl.ucla.edu

The problem I have with this is integrating a completely foreign
CPU with the rest of the system.

Currently, the NeXT requires special DSP memory and a special DSP
bus to bridge between the native CPU and the DSP.  It seems to me
that this stuff is very special purpose and totally nonflexible.

The software required to access the DSP is also very special
purpose and not very flexbile.  Currently, the DSP can be only
used for batch jobs.  It's a problem when I want to run Mandelbrot.app
and listen to a .score file.  This does not seem like the way to do things
in a multitasking environment.

It costs money to design and implement these special purpose solutions.

I speculate that special purpose onboard processors like the DSP
will give way to fast and inexpensive general purpose processors.
The DSP is an intermediate stage until we get a general purpose
CPU that can do everything.

Special purpose processors have their place doing dedicated things.

...Stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NeXT dealers (commercial) in the SF Bay Area?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:51:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.212504.8697@adobe.com> byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)  
writes:
> Gary Barnes writes
> 
> >Are there any commercial dealers for the NeXT in the SF Bay Area? 
> >I didn't see any while wandering through the Yellow Pages.  I'm
> >not a student so educational dealers are presumably not
> >helpful for me. Some of the questions I want to ask are, "How
> >much?", and, "What do I get for that?".
> 
> ComputerWare in Palo Alto is an Authorized NeXT Dealer.

That's Computer Attic not ComputerWare. 
Also in Palo Alto is Highland Digital, which is a NeXT VAR.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: rmommer@shumun.weeg.uiowa.edu (Ric Mommer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is the NeXTStation Turbo vertically disadvantaged?
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:13:07 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <9APR199221530916@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov> silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov  
(Dick Silbar) writes:
> ...
> Then my friend Paul wandered by and he said, "Gee, I'm not sure I'd leave
> that thing standing up that way..."  He didn't explain why.
> 
> QUESTION: is there any good reason why we _shouldn't_ leave Rachel's
> slab standing in its upright position? 
> 
>    Dick Silbar

Well, keep in mind the design of the NeXTstation for cooling.  The bottom  
mounted fan is designed to force air over the motherboard.  Make sure not to  
restrict the airflow into the machine.  Another consideration is the hard  
drive.  Although it runs fine in the vertical orientation, you should strongly  
consider reformatting the drive and reinstalling the OS with it vertical.  The  
drive does operate differently sideways (albeit a minute difference) and in my  
experience with other PCs (Mac and DOS) the hard drive is prone to failure.

I distinctly remember a host of technical reasons why, at its introduction, it  
was not recommended to orient the station on its side.  If anyone has more  
specifics, please post 'em.  An easier solution, and the one I would choose,  
is to simple order the longer monitor cable that ships with the cube ($60 I  
think) and put the station on a shelf somewhere with good ventilation.

Ric Mommer
Multimedia Computing Studio
University of Iowa

DISCLAIMER:  These opinions are mine and not those of the University because  
the University can't afford any opinions at this time.  I do believe the Union  
is negotiating for an increase in opinions.  If an agreement is reached  
regarding the  increase in opinioins, I would have to recommend to furlough  
the opinions until such time the University is more sound.  Remember, the  
University that opinions the least, educates the most.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: NeXT dealers (commercial) in the SF Bay Area?
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:25:04 GMT

Gary Barnes writes

>Are there any commercial dealers for the NeXT in the SF Bay Area? 
>I didn't see any while wandering through the Yellow Pages.  I'm
>not a student so educational dealers are presumably not
>helpful for me. Some of the questions I want to ask are, "How
>much?", and, "What do I get for that?".

ComputerWare in Palo Alto is an Authorized NeXT Dealer.

Scott Byer                                   NeXTMail: byer@adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated               These are *my* opinions, and  
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900             the opinions of my employer.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)
Subject: Re: 88110 and 56001 -- How many MFLOPS ?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:34:18 GMT


In article <1992Apr16.180949.26816@cs.ucla.edu> esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi) writes:

   Does anyone know how many MFLOPS the Motorola 56001 DSP and 88110
   CPU are capabale of?  I am trying to compare this to the 80 MFLOPS
   of the 33-MHx i860 and to the 50 MFLOPS of the 33-MHz 96002 DSP.

The i860 doesn't get 80 MFLOPS in practice.  10 MFLOPS is the number
that I hear a lot.  Anyway, the i860 isn't used for crunching on the
ND, it's just used for bitblits.

-Mike
From: mp@augur.han.de (Mathias Pruestel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OD disk WANTED ASAP
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:47:25 GMT
Organization: Pruestel Group

In article <1992Apr7.210401.15991@das.harvard.edu> clp@home.HarvardSq.COM  
(Charles L. Perkins) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.230931.20016@pellns.alleg.edu> trimble@alleg.edu (Erik  
> Trimble) writes:
> > Hi everyone! 
> >   I need a Cannon Optical Disk...
> 
> I've been out of town and lost my contacts from last time.
> 
> I still need 3-5 new or semi-old one-sided Optical Disks.
> 
> I'll pay $50-$70 (negotiable) per disk.
> 
> 						Thanks,
> 
> 							Charles
As soon as Charles has gotten his OD's I would be interested, too!

Mathias
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From: davis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert E Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: For Sale:  Four 1MB SIMMS from Mono NeXTstation
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:59:48 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


	These are your standard "I upgraded my NeXTstation and have
these left over" SIMMS -- 100 ns 4x8 that originally came with the
station (less than 10 months old) -- also work with Mac II's (except
IIfx).

	First offer of $75 takes all four -- I'll pay shipping.


Robert
-- 
| Robert Davis
| davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu                                NeXT Mail accepted
| "Look up, Hannah.  Look up." 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sorcerer@leland.stanford.edu (Erik Peterson)
Subject: Mail bug
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 05:26:04 GMT

I am using NeXT mail release 2.0 (v62) and I keep coming across a serious bug.

About 20% of the time when I send a message in non-Next mail mode it arrives in  
NeXT mode.

This wouldn't be any problem if I didn't have to communicate with the non-NeXT  
world but I do....

Any ideas on this?

(P.S. I know of other users who have found the same problem, but no solution  
yet!)

Thanks
Erik Peterson
sorcerer@leland.stanford.edu
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:08:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.225405.15278@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@ihcoco.att.com  
(Felix A. Lugo) writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.200738.18240@cs.yale.edu>  
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu writes:
> | 
> | Neat TIFFs.  Isn't the preferred method of distributing such things
> | though the ftp archives, though...
> | 
> 
> 	Not any more !!   8^)
> 
> 	I love RTF-NewsGrazer ... Keep-em coming gentry!

NOT!

This is not the correct newsgroup for such things, and you
know it. Please stop trying to provoke a flame war, which
you will most *surely* do.

If anyone bothers to announce the results of the vote, I'm
sure there will be a nice new comp.sys.next.rtf, where
such neat posts will most *definitely* belong. 

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.forsale.computers
From: sidlives@athena.mit.edu (Sid Vicious)
Subject: NeXT station for sale
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:47:05 GMT

I am posting this for a friend:

I am selling a NeXT station with the following features:

25 Mhz 68040
8 Mb of RAM
105 Mb HD
Monocrome monitor
2.88 Mb Floppy
Next Step 2.1 software
Soft PC software
Diagram software
Word Perfect software


I have all the original boxes and manuals.
The NeXT Step software is minus Webster and
plus the compiler.  Additional software may
be included.  

This is a very good machine at the price
of $3000/bo + shipping


Please respond to me.

Thanks
sidlives@athena.mit.edu
From: kls30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WRI 1-800 # & MMA 2.0.4
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:54:26 GMT
Reply-To: kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr10.143253.17482@zardoz.club.cc.cmu.edu> ddj@zardoz.club.cc.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes:
>A while back I bugged Wolfram about a bunch of files that were missing
>with my Mathematica distribution (the stuff to render graphics on
>graphic terminals).  They sent me the files.  I asked if I could share
>those files with other licensed owners of Mathematica, and Wolfram
>said *yes*.
>
>So, if I can prove to someone that I have Mathematica 2.0.0 on my
>machine, is it kosher for me to just copy 2.0.4?  Sounds like it'd
>save headaches all around.

They could just give it to you no matter what.  If you don't have 2.0
2.0.4 won't work anyway.

Remember you need that password.    ;->
--
/*  -The opinions expressed are my own, not my employers.    */
/*      For I can only express my own opinions.              */
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/*   Kent L. Shephard  : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com   */
From: kls30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT's RISC Workstation
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:10:08 GMT
Reply-To: kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr10.091036.3083@whetstone.uucp> whetstone!johnc@ms.uky.edu (John Coppinger) writes:
>My question is this: is the 88K really that fast?  Does Motorola really know  
>something about RISC that Sun doesn't?  How does Motorola get 75+ MIPS out of  
>their RISC when Sun is working pretty hard to squeeze 30 out of SPARC?  I'm not  
>a processor freak, so I don't really know about this stuff.  Can someone  
>enlighten me?
>

Do HP, IBM, DEC, and Intel know something that Sun doesn't know.
I think they do. The reason is that they also know what goes into
manufacturing the silicon. 

Sun Microsystems doesn't have a foundry.

This is important.  Even though SPARC foundries do their own
implementations, SPARC is a few years old in design.  Even though it is
scalable things have changed dramatically since the SPARC was introduced.

To finally anwer your question.  A 68040 competes very well with a SPARC
at the same speed.  I think don't doubt Motorola's claim for the speed
of the 88110 since the processors by IBM, DEC, and HP all have performance
in that range also.
--
/*  -The opinions expressed are my own, not my employers.    */
/*      For I can only express my own opinions.              */
/*                                                           */
/*   Kent L. Shephard  : email - kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com   */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mahilata@vogon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Earthworm society)
Subject: Re: Sticky Icons
Organization: MatLab, University Heidelberg
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:01:19

simple, save the shelf (command-s) (and, please, give a valid reply address)

--mahilata
From: tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd M. Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: RightBrain Software to Ship Source Code
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:31:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Apr9.213146.20147
Reply-To: tms@twins.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab

To quote a Talking Heads song:

"My God! What have I done?!?"

:-}

Todd
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark Thomsen)
Subject: The Future Was
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 20:17:40 GMT

1980. Hardly any Unix systems around. No DOS. What's a PARC? Clearly the  
dominant computer system software is IBM <pick one> or that new DEC VMS that's  
doing so well. People will program in FORTRAN or this Pascal, except for the  
hoard of Cobol folk. Command lines are all we know but we might see graphics.  
The future is merely an extrapolation of the present.

Or perhaps we should pay attention to this activity over in the corner with  
Apple?

Come on now. The future is as much DOS as it is IBM mainframe systems, DEC VMS,  
or Apple IIs. Microsoft has a better business plan than IBM, DEC, or Apple for  
maintaining some form of leadership in computer system software, but the game  
will change and DOS will not be the leader. Count on it. Certainty. The only  
alternative is stagnation of the computer industry - and the historical lesson  
is that we are due for a whole bunch of change before that happens.

In 10 years people will point out in how inside this new #1 you can find bits  
of DOS, but by now most people don't even know what computer system software is  
all about. It is just as likely as anything else on the horizon that the future  
is NeXTstep, and just as unlikely at this early stage of the future.

The only thing that seems to survive each decade of change is Cobol. If you  
*want* stability and ease of predicting the future based on the present, become  
a Cobol data processing professional.

Mark R. Thomsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom)
Subject: PixelMagician higher education discount.
Keywords: Higher education discount graphics
Reply-To: eric@bacchus.com
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:55:42 GMT


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a trademark of Bacchus, Inc.  NeXT is a trademark of NeXT Computer, Inc. 
All other brand names are trademarks or registered trademarks of their 
respective owners.  Specifications subject to change without notice.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Net Consensus (Re: Neuron: unsatisfied 96+ owners UNITE!)
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 23:07:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.145721.7425@Princeton.EDU> miyazaki@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Takeshi Miyazaki) writes:

[ ]
>
>This kind of thing happens very often. For example, once Norton
>Utilities for Mac was the netters' choice of disk utility. People said
>DiskExpress II is dangerous. And now people are bashing Norton in
>info-mac digest. 

You can't compare the 2 situations. The Neuron product cost us $1300CDN +
phone calls. Norton utilities...almost nothing. Moreover at least Symantec
is not a fly by night company and does honour their warranty( as they did 
when they took back the Norton Desktop for Windows from me- no questions
asked-> they had a trial period). Has anyone actually been happy with Neuron?
As far as I can tell I can only recall 2 positive notes re Neuron. One from
someone who received prompt on-site attention from Dan and Linus for some
problem and another months ago from someone who liked Synapse.
>
>As far as I know, the only application that is consistently being
>bashed is Microsoft Word :)

Word 5.0 is being praised. Microsoft dominates the Mac world.

>
>So don't rely on the net consensus too much. The net is a good place
>to hear user's real voice. But sometimes a few enthusiasts' voices 
>can dominate or control the net consensus.

The Neuron issue is real. The issues do not only affect a few.

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: iclone!ctm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Feel safe about Executor-DEMO.tar
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:53:33 GMT
Organization: ARDI

Last night I posted a message concerning a DEMO coyp of ARDI's Executor
that you can pick up via anonymous ftp from unmvax.cs.unm.edu.  I went
to great lengths to explain that the package needs to be installed as
root and that this is of course a potentially dangerous thing to do.

One of our customers then sent us the "md5" package from

    R. Rivest, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
      and
    S. Dusse, RSA Data Security, Inc.

Basically the package creates a secure checksum that you can compare
to a known checksum to make sure that someone hasn't tampered with
a file.  When run on Executor-DEMO.tar, the checksum is:

3be5dd1ca10cb3e145b1aa8d20ebf441 Executor-DEMO.tar

The source to md5 is contained within Executor-DEMO.tar, so you can extract
the source, compile it and run it on Executor-DEMO.tar.  If the checksum
matches what is in this post, then that means that no one has tampered
with the source, unless he/she has also tampered with this post.  If you're
worried about the latter case, you can call us and we'll tell you the
checksum.  Of course there's a possibility that the source to md5 has a
trap door in it*, but now you're talking about a pretty unlikely event.

So, if you have ftp access and a little disk space, get our Executor-DEMO,
if for no other reason than to show to your Macintosh loving friends or
enemies.

	--Cliff[ord T. Matthews]	iclone!ctm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu
	ARDI				(505) 766-9115

[p.s.  I don't know the procedure for putting stuff on the "official"
       archives.  If someone will do that for me, I'd appreciate it.
       If not, I'll find out how and do it later this week.  Don't
       tamper with the .tar file at all, or the checksum will no longer
       be correct].

__________________
*In all honesty, I'm just trusting the source; I'm a clever guy, but an
 encryption guru I'm not.  I understand the principals involved and I
 did glance at the source, but you never know for sure; read dmr's paper
 on tricked out C compilers if you really want to lose sleep at night.
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to set up a FAX group phone list
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:44:05 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Paul Pederson writes
> I would like to set up a FAX phone list similar to a mailing group list. The  
> list will be used to distribute documents to various FAX locations. Presently  
I  
> must send a document to 28 FAX locations one at a time. Not very efficient!!
> 

One thing that will help is that you can select more than one entry in
your FAX panel to send to, and it will send to all of them.  Not quite
what you're looking for, but a lot better than doing them one at a time.

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California		Font Hotline: 800-525-FONT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: 3.5" Erasible Optical Disk < $10/each
Reply-To: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:24:04 GMT

	OD is dead due to cost, performance and reliablity problems. But  
how about the new 3.5 Erasible OD? Their speed is much faster than the  
origional OD and no caddy is need to hold the disk. As a matter of fact,  
they look nothing too different from the 3.5" Floppy ones. And I was told  
that Taiwan is going to mass-produce such disk for under $10/disk. For 128  
Megs per side of one disk and the comparable cost, shouldn't it be a  
reason to dust out the current 2.8 Meg FD like the new CD-ROM did to the  
old sad OD?

Gary