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From: John.Lester@f163.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Lester)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: volunteers
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:22:33 -0800

=>Regina Detwiler said to Cary Eastwood during a Borg invasion on
11-17-92

 RD> My opinion is - just because you have a blue light (here in PA,
 RD> that's what the vol. have) on top of your car, doesn't give you
the
 RD> right to drive like a nut!

 Which company is your husband with?


... Hey Rocky!  Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!  OOPS!  Wrong Hat!
 * Origin: The Second Foundation - McKees Rocks PA (1:129/163)
From: Gerard.Newham@f207.n714.z3.fidonet.org (Gerard Newham)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Hazard lights on emergenc
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:04:31 -0800

 Gday Rick,

 -=> Quoting Rick Wilson to William J. Vital <=-

 RW> activity. People who don't get out of the way of emergency
 RW> vehicles....STUPID people!!! 

We had a fun one out here where this joker refused to move across to
let
the rescue truck past until the truck was (literally) almost pushing
him
along in front.  When he did finally move, he flipped the driver of the
rescue truck the bird.  Nice guy, huh?  Pity the driver didn't have
time
to take down his rego number.

Cheers, Gerard



... In God we trust - all others we polygraph
 * Origin: Palantir - On the Bauder! French's Forest NSW AUSTRALIA
(3:714/207.0)
From: Bob.Upson@f333.n142.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Upson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: OSHA regs. A question
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:56:00 GMT

z> Do the regs cover non-employies as well? ie volenteer FF, EMTs etc?
 
OSHA regulations make no distinction whether you get paid for performing
a job or not.  In other words, their regs apply equally to volunteer and
career EMTs and firefighters -- they are all 'employees' for regulatory
purposes.
 
FYI, some key regulations relating to both are the new (and much
discussed) bloodborn pathogens regs (29 CFR 1910.1030), the key regs
regarding hazardous materials (HazComm, 29 CFR 1910.1200 & HazWOpER, 29
CFR 1910.120), and the basic fire brigade standards (29 CFR 1910.156).

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From: Steve.Fleckenstein@f31.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Scanner Database Door
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:32:00 -0800

LT>  Quoting a message from BLAKE BOWERS to KENNETH GRIMARD

LT>BB  -=> Quoting Rick Wilson to Kenneth Grimard <=-
  >    kg> Does any one know where i can find a scanner database door
  >    kg> for an ibm bbs. I am currently running fd/remote access.


 I've just started playing with a DBASE III Door called RAD213.ZIP..
Available here on my BBS for use on frequency databases. It is easy to
setup and will use the .DBF file from the GROVE frequency program. So
far my BBS members have liked it found it nice to search through 6 megs
of freqs for New York State.


Steve

 * Origin: Red Onion, Express  Wawayanda,New York  914 342 4585
(1:272/31.0)
From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Ambulance Cert
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:59:18 -0800

I am writing a study for the Municipal League, and need the following 
information.  
     Which States still allow ambulance certification of Hightop and
Lowtop
suburbans and caddys for ambulance service.  
    Thanks


... Just like todays youth, bringing a knife to a gunfight!
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From: kb2ear@kb2ear.ampr.org (Scott R. Weis KB2EAR)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: amber / green lights
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:13:49 GMT
Organization: KB2EAR's Machine

I thought that green was mandated by FEMA as command post? If that is
the case would it not be a bad idea to let anyone use them except
emergency type stuff used for command and control?

--
Scott R. Weis KB2EAR, EMT-A
Inernet:	kb2ear@kb2ear.ampr.org
Packet:		KB2EAR@KB2EAR.NJ.USA
Snail Mail:	10 Palmer Rd., Kendall Park, NJ, 08824-1228
Phone:		+1 908 297 0469
From: Aram.Bissonnette@f1.n327.z1.fidonet.org (Aram Bissonnette)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:36:53 -0800

Daniel;   Hi! its nice to see a new name here.  Let us know a little
about yourself, and where your from.

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:15:13 EST
From:         "Taylor, Helena C." <KKVW@MARISTB.BITNET>
Subject:      Who's the Moderator?

The original moderator was Joe Stanford of Marist College, he left,
and I was supposed to be trained to take over.  Later on he said
that he had someone else who was willing to do it.. As far as I know
of, this list is running on auto-pilot.

For the gentleman who is politely requesting to get ddodell@stjmc etc.
off this list, I have been trying to find this other person who is
allegedly running this list, and to get that account removed.
I have had no luck as of yet.


Sorry for the problems, but after Joe left, this list has been
on autopilot.

Helena
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:26:35 PST
From:         dcrape@CLN.ETC.BC.CA
Subject:      To all Fire Fighters

Does anyone out there know anything about the outdoor storage of sulpher
and any fire hazards that can become of it.  There is a natural gas
scrubbing plant that takes the sulphur out of the natural gas and just
dumps it out on the ground.  They want to shut it down and just put it all
into outdoor storage blocks.  It is right near a forest and the fire chief
wants to know if there are any regulations about doing this. He got a book
to check it out and he said that it didn't answer any of the questions that
he had.  If you have any info please write to me and tell it.

E-Mail-dcrape@cln.etc.bc.ca
==========================
        Darryl Crape Teacher Assistant
        Fort Nelson Secondary School
        Voice (604)-774-6958
        dcrape@cln.etc.bc.ca
==========================
From: John.Linko@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Research Project --->> HELP! <<---
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:56:35 GMT

No offense, but working in a teaching hospital I've met some residents 
whose literacy (PERIOD) I would question. JL


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From: deglop@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Who's the Moderator?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 03:34:47 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.eeap.cwru.edu

In article <17NOV92.14313987.0059.MUSIC@MARISTB> "Taylor, Helena C." <KKVW@MARISTB.BITNET> writes:

>The original moderator was Joe Stanford of Marist College, he left,

Or at least the owner of the BITNET list EMERG-L... The current
owner is HARRYW@MARIST, I believe.  You can send a 
REVIEW EMERG-L command to LISTSERV@MARIST, which will tell you 
for sure.

>For the gentleman who is politely requesting to get ddodell@stjmc etc.
>off this list, I have been trying to find this other person who is

I think the list owner above is the person you need.  If that doesn't work,
anyone on Internet should be able to forge a message to remove him from the
list.



-- 
         Jacob DeGlopper, EMT-A, Wheaton (MD) Volunteer Rescue Squad
            -- CWRU Biomedical Engineering - jrd5@po.cwru.edu --

"Well as through this life I've rambled I've seen lots of funny men
From: Walt.Young@f710.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Walt Young)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fidonet feed
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:32:00 -0800

 DR>  And FidoNet pays phone bills, unlike some other nets we are linked
to
 DR>that I won't mention.
 
 REALLY?  First I've heard of that?  What is FidoNet's budget this
 year for phone bills?  Last I knew *C's of various levels were
 either paying bills out of THEIR pocket...or there are various
 Cost Sharing Programs in effect (of which I participate in our
 Net and pay my share of the Net bill).
 
 Please enlighten me...QUICK!
 
    Walt
 
  * SLMR 2.1a * Conservative: A Liberal who was just mugged at
Gunpoint!


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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:40:46 -0500
From:         "Michael P. Rolfes" <usr2879a@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      EMT POEM

FORWARDED FROM: /medical/emergency/bb(#422) From:usr10513(Sharon Hackney)
                          Sorry if we wake you
                       In the middle of the night
                    But someone in your neighborhood
                       Is fighting for their life.

                       Sorry if we block the road
                        And make you turn around,
                      But there's been a bad wreck
                   With children dying on the ground.

                         When you see us coming
                         We hope you understand,
                      Let us have the right of way
                      Someone needs a helping hand.

                       Sometimes a child is choking
                          Sometimes a broken leg,
                      Sometimes a heart stops beating
                  And when we get there - its too late.

                        So if you see us crying
                     When we think we're all alone,
                        You know we had a "bad one"
                     And we're feeling mighty down.

                         You ask us why we do it
                     "How can you watch a child die?"
                          It's never very easy
                      But we'll try to tell you why.

                       We don't do it for the money
                        You know we don't get paid,
                       We don't do it for the glory
                   But for the life that might be saved.

                          Somewhere deep within us
                          Our souls are crying out
                       We're here to help our neighbors
                        In their hour of pain and doubt.

                         God gave us something special
                          To help us see you through,
                          We do it cause we love you
                          And care about you, too!

Just something that I thought was rather insightful.   I hope you enjoy it!

Sharon
UH-->usr10513@tso.uc.edu  UH-->(Sharon Hackney)

-----FORWARDED BY: usr2879a(Michael P. Rolfes)


I think that this pretty well summarizes what we have been talking about!

Michael P. Rolfes  OVR Unit #43, usr2879a@tso.uc.edu
**********************************************************
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Hamilton County Disaster and Emergency Services
American Red Cross --Standard First Aid
American Heart Association -- Basic Life Support Certified
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From: Charles.Detwiler@p2.f190.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Charles Detwiler)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Program
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:41:23 -0800

Just wondering if anyone out there knows of a good program that would 
satisfy all the paperwork requirements of a V.F.D.  It would need to do

rosters and be able to enter the calls and maintain equipment svcing
dates 
and personnel training dates, mebbe even be able to generate your fund 
raising events and letters and all.  Thanks

--Charles

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From: Doug.Plaza@f413.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Plaza)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: VOLUNTEERS
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:32:00 -0800

DP>I have to agree with Ed on this one.  Volunteer (or Paid for that
matter) FD
DP>members can *not* have a driver written up for a violation of the
VTL
DP>without PD witnessing it (at least in New York State they can't). 
When I
DP>first started driving (on calls) I asked a friend who is a police
officer
DP>the very same question after having a near accident with a driver
who
DP>totally ignored lights/sirens - and he said that PD has to witness
the
DP>actual occurence.

The PD must witnees the violation if they are going to sign the
complaint, but in most states anyone con file a complaint.  You just
have to be the person signing the ticket and be prepared to back it up
in court if the violator fights it...and they probably will.

  SLMR 2.1a  All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.


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From: Skip.Menzies@f1047.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Skip Menzies)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Summer
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:19:23 -0800

> From: kaypr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Patrick Richard Kay)
> 
> I'm interested in fighting forest fires this summer.
> Is this the kind of thing I can do for a summer job?
> I'm a Comp. Sci. student and have no fire fighting
> experience, but I should have my EMT-A by summer.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -Pat Kay
> 
> ---
>  * Origin: Gated by {remote.uucp}, +1 206 292 9048 [PEP] (1:343/94)
................
Pat:
     To fight Forest Fires (Wildland Fires) you need to have a Red
Card!
The National Wildfire Coordinating Group in Booise, Idaho; which is
made
up of Federal and State Agencies like the National Park Service, U.S.
Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management etc. has guidelines for the
issuing of Red Cards.
     When I received my Red Card Certification from the National Park
Service, I had to complete three (3) courses; (1) Basic Wildland Fire
Fighter, Course # S-130, (2) Introduction to Fire Behavior, Course #
S-190 and (3) Incident Command System, Course # ???(don't remember)..
You also take a yearly physical test called a STEP TEST.  Only after
you have completed these, will you be RED CARD Certified!
     I know that the National Park Services has some seasonal jobs for
what they call "HOT SPOT CREW".  These are dirty and hard jobs!
     To obtain information on Red Card Certification contact the U.S.
Dept. of Ag. - U.S. Forest Service, or for Hot Spot Crew contact the
National Park Service.
     Wish you luck!!!!!
                                     Skip Menzies
                                     Washington Co., Md.
                                     Clear Spring Vol. Fire Co.
                                      [D/
                                     NPS - Catoctin Mnt. Park

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From: Kurt.Ullman@f290.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Kurt Ullman)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Als Paper, Take Two
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:01:02 -0800

KRA>From: kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kenneth R Aron)

KRA>A couple of weeks ago, I made a post requesting sources on cost
KRA>data for ALS procedures for a sociology paper.  While I have
KRA>quite a bit of usable data, I still need something I can't seem
KRA>to find.  Does anyone out there in netland know where I could
KRA>find the numbers on the failure rate of the aircraft used for
KRA>'lifeflight' work?  Thanks.

        By failure do you mean crashes, etc.? If so, there have been
a number of artilces available in places like Annals of Emergency
Medicine, etc.  I would think the nearest Lifeline would have those or
know where you could get them.  You may also want to look in Gov. Docs,
since I think Congress had hearings in the last year or two on the
subject. Gov. Docs may also have the results National Transportation
Safety Board in quiries into the crashes that have occured.
        A great, but grossly underused, resoruce is the Encyclopedia Of
Associations. If is available in most every library in the Country and
contains the contact people for (if I remember) 250,000+ associations,
organizations, grups, etc.  This would have information on any
Association dealing with medical helicopters, etc.
        If by failures you mean, per centage of those who die
enroute or soon after, the only likely place would be some sort of
association. (Short of writing to an appropriate sample of services and
asking for survey information).
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From: Bob.Stonehill@f702.n278.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Stonehill)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: BUS ACCIDENT.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:22:51 -0800

John,  Could I impose on you for a $0.29 donation in the form of a copy
of 
your waiver for patients who insist on going to hospitals where
diversion has 
been requested? 
 
Bob Stonehill
Flatlands Volunteer Ambulance Corps
4623 Avenue N
Brooklyn, NY 11234
 
All donations are tax deductable.
 
Thanks.
 * Origin: New York City Fire Department, New York, NY (1:278/702)
From: Jack.Still@p3.f211.n270.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Still)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: ALS paper, take two
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:14:33 -0800

In a message on <Nov 15 21:56>, Ralph Sims of 1:343/94 writes:

 RS> From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)

 RS> kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kenneth R Aron) writes:

>to find.  Does anyone out there in netland know where I could
>find the numbers on the failure rate of the aircraft used for
>'lifeflight' work?  Thanks.

 RS> You might start with the FAA.
Also the NSTB.  They both investigate A/C accidents.

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From: Bob.Upson@f333.n142.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Upson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Code 99
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 07:56:00 -0800

DS> specifically mean when someone (dispatcher, EMT, etc) says it's a
"code
DS> 99"? I have a scanner at my home so I can hear all the excitement in
my
 
Codes vary from place to place, but 'code 99' is used in some to
indicate 'CPR in progress.'

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From: Walter.Bodin@f53.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Bodin)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: scanner database door
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:48:00 GMT

BB>The BEST door program I have found, would be the ScannerBuff!
program,
BB>it has a program for the individual user, and a program for the
Door,

What is the latest version of the home and door program.

Thanks

Walt

 * OLX 2.2 * From the Desk of the SySop!!


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From: Patrick.De.Gagne@f155.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Patrick De Gagne)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: What Is Policy For Drivin
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:19:01 -0800

RE>JM>Just wondering what the policy is for Volunteers driving to the
station t
RE>JM>respond to their alarm?
RE>In NY state it is follow the rules of the road. No speeding,no
running
RE>cars or people off the road etc. In our department we arrive at the
RE>station,fill the spots on the trucks in order and respond usually
with
RE>an officer on board. Anything eles you are looking for just ask.

FYI, it's almost the same thing up here in Quebec.  Plus we're not
allowed using any warning devices, such as sirens, lights or flashers.
Only in certain towns, where they have special municipal legislation
may
the firefighters use a light on their PVs.

Pat

 * SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: Anthony.Marchesano@f702.n278.z1.fidonet.org (Anthony Marchesano)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: WHAT IS POLICY FOR DRIVING
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:48:31 -0800

Hi All!
 
Here in NY, we (volunteers) are allowed one blue light.  Used as a
courtesy 
light, it only serves to identify us as responding emergency personnel
to the 
public.  We are not given any special privileges, nor are other vehicles

required to pull over for us.  And many do not.  If anyone is seen
running a 
red light, or passing someone over the double yellow line, then a ticket
can 
be issued.  More often, however, the blue light privilege is taken away
for 
30/60/90 days.  Depends how the chief's day is going <GGG>.  I feel that

(whether or not we should be able to break traffic laws) there should be
a 
law REQUIRING other drivers to PULL OVER and let us pass.  I can't tell
you 
how much it annoys me to get behind someone with my blue light on (and
VERY 
visable) and have them actually SLOW DOWN!  There was one @%!@$%^@#$
that 
slowed down and pulled to the right, and then when I went to go around
him, 
he pulled back out and sped up; forcing me into the left lane with
oncoming 
traffic.  It's people like this that make me HOPE that it is THEIR house

burning down, or their relative in Cardiac 
arrest. (As bad as this sounds and feels, sometimes its true)
 
Well, I think I'll step down off my soapbox for now.
 
---Penguin
Mahopac Falls VFD
Mahopac Falls, New York (Putnam County)
 
Prodigy ID: PDFH99A
 
"An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while sweeping on to
the 
grand fallacy"
 * Origin: New York City Fire Department, New York, NY (1:278/702)
From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fire/rescue/EMS gifs
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:33:00 -0800

On <17 Nov, 20:59>, Jason Thurston wrote to All :

JT> From: thurs_j@seth.cs.odu.edu (Jason Thurston)
JT>
JT> Quite a few people sent me their addresses for the fire/rescue/EMS
gif
JT> mailing list. In all of my infinite wisdom, I managed to delete the
JT> address file from my UNIX acct. (OOPS!) So, if you are interested
in
JT> being on an e-mailing list of the FTP sites found, please e-mail me
JT> (yes again..) and let me know. Also, please specify your EXACT
email
JT> address in your letter. I tried to respond to some of the addresses
JT> given in the headers and they bounced. (Weird huh?) Also, if you
have
JT> info on where fire&rescue type gifs can be found, please let me
know.
JT> One last thing. The gif I found on wuarchive was said to be under
JT> /pub/graphics/gif/f/firemen
JT> well, it is supposed to be:
JT> /graphics/gif/f/firemen
JT> sorry about the error!
JT> Thanks to everyone that responded initially. I am going to send out
a
JT> list (or try to) every 2 weeks or so.
JT>                                             --Jason
Hi Jason:
Your looking for FIRE.GIFS eh? Well if you FREQ Whistle.Arj  it will
tell
you everything I have for Gif Files. I have the following file areas for
Gif
files FIRE.GIFS ,TRAIN.GIFS , two areas of regular Gifs files..
Or you can log on the board instead board number is 1-(413)448-6292
24/24 hrs 7days a week. Jason if you have any FIRE.GIFS that you want to
share with me . I would that appreciated very much ...

                         Later..
                          Paul..
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