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From: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: SHO grills
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:40:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 

  >>  >>After 2nd Motorcraft battery died on me last August, I had put an 1000CCA
  >>  >>after market battery in it.  But I suspect for some obscure reason, after
  >>  >>12-15 months of service, batteries in SHO just quit.
  >>of run it fine since then.  I had my mechanic check out the electrical and
  >>charging system since then, and it was fine.  I suspect the problem lies more
  >>with the Motorcraft battery then the SHO charging system.
  >
  >I don't know if it's already been mentioned here, but I thought Ford had
  >acknowledged this problem, and was replacing the front "grill" with a
  >narrower one?
  >I was in an accident back in June with my SHO, and the grill they used
  >definately is about 1.5 inches shorter than the original - and what I
  >see on regular Tauri.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what would the front grill have to do with
the battery or charging system?!?  

I haven't noticed a difference between the grills on a friends '91 SHO and 
my '89, but there IS a "Police Option" grill that has louvers on it - better 
cooling, think I'll get one before the hot Houston summer rolls around 
again!  ;-)

- Dave Bonds 
- Internet : David.Bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: bill@ecn.purdue.edu (Bill Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: classic rods
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:34:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue

In article <1gkrc2INN468@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
kreibema@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael A Kreiberg) writes:
>Does anyone have an interest in the older automobile?
>
>I have a '56 chevy truck and a myriad of performance parts and accesories  
>from the 60's
>Including a complete 1967 350hp corvette motor.
>
>I would love to see more postings involving this era
>

There's a few of us. Check out "alt.autos.rod-n-custom" if you can get it.
I've been looking for a 55-7 Chevy truck for a project, so just drop yours
off at my house :-)  


Bill Drake   -   bill@ecn.purdue.edu

47 Ford Club Coupe////454/AT/3:00////  the "Fat Rat"
69 Camaro convertible////327/AT/2:73
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From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Real Life?!?! HA!!)
Subject: Re: Passat - to buy or not to buy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:54:21 GMT

seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour) writes:

>I am looking at a 91 passat GL.  Are there any horror stories out there.  Anyone know of particular problems to look for?

Repost this to rec.autos.vw.  They should have more specific info.  Good luck!

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From: hemi@bcrkd12.bnr.ca (Hemi Thaker)
Subject: HELP! Problem with Toyota Corolla 
Reply-To: hemi@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, VHDL Group
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:08:01 GMT

	I'm having a problem with my '86 Toyota Corolla SR-5.
The first time the problem happened, I was driving at 120Km/hr
when all of a sudden my engine died on me.  I still had electrical
power, and could crank the engine, but it wouldn't start.  The
engine did not sputter or cough when it died.

	This problem has reoccured a few more times.  Every time,
I have either been driving faster than 100Km/hr, or standing still.
Again, after the engine dies, I can crank as much as I want, but the
car won't start.  However, after 1 hour and 15 to 20 minutes
later (yes, this exact), I can start the car, and it behaves as
if nothing had happened.

	As per Murphy's laws, this "feature" of my car is impossible
to reproduce in front of or by the mechanic.  He had originally
thought it was a faulty fuel pump, and replaced that, but the problem
resurfaced two weeks later.

	Got any advice for me?

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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: Emblems, names and meanings...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:33:42 GMT

In article <BzF4Fn.BqB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>In article <BzEuo2.GpK@boi.hp.com> wesf@boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii) writes:
>>
>>I was just curious where some of the emblems and names from the
>>different manufacturer's come from (Ford is pretty obvious).
>>In these days of "customer recognition" I'm sure that much
>>attention is paid to these cosmetic details. 
>>
>>Also, how often are the styles updated or changed?  Examples:
>>
>>     Toyota used to just say "TOYOTA" and now they have an emblem
>>     (looks like a silly cattle brand to me).
>>
>>     Oldsmobile went from a block style from way back, to a script
>>     style in the '70s, then to a fairly plain type now.  Plus,
>>     have they gotten rid of the Oldsmobile Rocket emblem?  I
>>     haven't realy noticed the emblems on their new cars although
>>     I haven't looked very close lately (doesn't really matter
>>     since they don't make "rockets" anymore anyway)
>
>	Yes, they have been moving away from the rocket for a while.  I think 
>that the soon to be released Aurora won't even have the word Oldsmobile on it.
>If you want more info, there was a sidebar in Time a few weeks ago about the
>demise of Olds...
>
and they won't have the OLDsmobile name because probably in the near future
even OLD-mobile won't have the OLDsmobile name!
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From: rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden)
Subject: '87 Daytona Questions
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:22:32 GMT


I recently purchased an '87 Daytona Shelby Z (4 banger w/ Turbo).  And
while I'm sure that I paid too much for it (but this is a college town
and it only had 49k miles on it), it seems like a pretty solid car and I'm
happy with it.  This is also my first manual transmission I've had since I
learned to drive on the family wagon years ago (which was an '81 VW dasher
diesel :(

In any case, I have a couple questions about this car.

1)  As a whole, what things seem to be the most prevalent problems with this
vehicle? (yes, I do all of the sched. maintainence and oil changes every
2500 to 3000 miles).  I have heard horror stories about the transmission
but all of the stories dealt with the automatic, not the manual.  Anyone
have good or bad things to say?

2)  Bras:  the front of the car is a little dinged up and I am wondering
about the benefit of a bra.  It is a black car so it would "blend in"
somewhat I just don't if it is worth the investment.

3)  This is my first "turbo" and I'm wondering if there are any special
things I should be aware of in terms of operating this vehicle.

That's about all right now.  I'll say this much though, this car is a heck
of an upgrade from my old car, which was an '82 Merc Capri w/ inline-6
cyl. (mustang wanna-be).

I appreciate your comments.
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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: How to fight AAA?
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:50:43 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Dec16.212345.532@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> bw@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Bruce White 3807) writes:
>
>
>My 1985 CRX was in an accident and AAA has deemed the car totalled.
>They have offered me $2700 minus $500 for "salvage value".
>
>I disputed their assessment and sent in some copies of local newspaper
>ads in which private parties were asking $5100 and $6700. I also
>saw a 1985 CRX at a local Mitsubishi dealer. They were asking $6000.
>My car had A/C, the others did not. I told AAA that $2700 was far less
>than my car was worth, and that I wanted $6000.

6,000 for an 85 CRX with lots of miles? They musta been dreaming...

>Today the agent denied my argument, and we haggled over the comparable
>cars which I had described. She said that she would only offer at most
>$3000. I told her that was unacceptable. She is going on vacation
>and will be sending my file over to the AAA lady who I originally filed
>my claim with.

I'd guess that 3K is cool. The car cost new around 9,000 dollars in 85.
After 8 years and 110,000 miles you want 6,000 dollars for it? (I don't
want to sound mean, but this is expecting a bit too much). 

I don't doubt that they can find a sucker, er, customer to buy it for
6,700 dollars. If the car had 60K miles on, and was in perfect shape,
and, and, and, I could see the 6700 negotiated down quite a bit. 

I own an 85 Civic 1500S (same engine/options as the 85 CRX). I would
not dream of getting even 2K for it, and it's in perfect shape, all
required maintenance, new everything... Mine has 130K miles.

Spiros
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GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
From: amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Olds Bravada
Date: 18 Dec 1992 14:53:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In <uiJZVB1w165w@caller.org> blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:

> . . . I mean, its just a Blazer dressed up more, is it not?

The Bravada uses silicon fluid differentials (like the VW syncro.)
Supposed to be a nicer setup for street driving.

Alex
amiller@almaden.ibm.com
From: stsshol@st.unocal.COM (Herb Lam)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: hit and run accident
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:01:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: unocal.1992Dec11.190109.17162
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unocal Corporation


My girlfriend was involved in a hit and run accident couple months
back.  Her light had just turned green so she started to make a left.
A pickup ran a red light had hit her front left end.  At first, the
two men claimed that it was her fault, but a couple behind the pickup
was nice enough to stop and said that the pickup ran a red light.  
The two men then said they had no license or insurance and walked away 
from the accident, leaving the pickup there.  [Funny story here is that 
the woman (newlywed copule) told her husband, "Honey, they're getting 
away, go get them."  He just said, "What do you want me to do?"]  

The police haven't caught the guys yet but have the pickup.  My 
girlfriend just got her car back recently but had to pay a $500 
deductible.  Is there anything she can do to get some of the $500
back?  If the police gets lucky and catch the guys (the guys left 
their name tags from work and car registration in the pickup, though 
the pickup may not be theirs), should she prosecute?

Thanks for any comments.
From: leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 03:42:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Eletcric rustproofing ?
Organization: HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.autos

In rec.autos, cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson) writes:

| I thought I'd seen it all . . .
|
| My friend was showing me his new Ford Ranger the other day when I noticed a
| little box on his firewall with some pretty dancing LED's. When I asked him
| what it was, he launched into a 15 minute production any salesdriod would
| have been proud of. It seems this little box is supposd to keep some minute  
| electrical charge applied to the chassis (and body) of the vehicle, thus
| preventing rust (here's the best part) FOREVER ! Apparently this little
| device came with a warranty that guarantees his truck will never, ever show a  
| single spot of rust. Well, being the skeptic I am, I pulled out the trusty
| old multimeter to see exactly what this box was putting out. Boy was I  
| surprised (not) to find absolutely no measurable current of any kind
| coming from the box. 
|
| Has anyone else heard of this "technique" ? Is it for real ? 
| Is it the best scam going ?
|
| Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
| cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

Yes, this technique works, it's well known, but you friend forgot one thing.
It only works when the object to be protected, ie the car, is totally immersed
in an electrolyte.

Tell him to leave the car in brine, and hey, in 10 years time (assuming he
remembers to change the battery), bodywork still good as new :-).  No
warranties on the upholstery tho :-) :-) :-)

Seriously, it won't work on the car.  Oil rigs, yes, for above reasons.  Car,
no.

lawrence

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake)
Subject: Re: Jeep Quadra-Trac thoughts?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:49:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1992Dec8.172423.23988@coe.montana.edu>, hutch@cs.montana.edu (Bill Hutchison) writes:
|> 
|> Any thoughts about Command-Trac vs. Selec-Trac vs. Quadra-Trac for a
|> Jeep Cherokee or Grand Cherokee?
|> 
|> My '85 Cherokee has Command-Trac and a 5-speed.  But I like the way
|> my friend's Selec-Trac feels in snow.  Quadra-Trac is the unknown.  Jeep
|> had something called Quadra-Trac in the 70's.  Is the current offering
|> a lineal descendant?  If I, recall, the 70 version had good performace,
|> marginal relibility.

Not guaranteed to be 100% accurate, but as I remember things (having
looked at the different options when buying my Grand Cherokee a couple
of months ago):

	Command-Trac:	The original FWD system on jeeps,
			has basically two positions, rear wheel drive,
			and 4 wheel drive. In the FWD position the whole
			system is locked, so all the wheels better turn
			at the same speed ! You can't use it on anything
			other than loose/slippery surfaces.

	Selec-Trac:	(What I went for). Has 4 options:

				- 2 wheel drive (rear wheels). This is
				  quieter (marginaly), and uses a little
				  less fuel.

				- Full time FWD. Or All-wheel drive,
				  The front and back, as well as wheels on
				  each axle have a sort of limited slip diff.
				  This can be used, as the name implies, all the
				  time, on all surfaces.

				- Part-time FWD. Locks up all the wheels, so
				  that you get really good traction. Can only
				  be used on loose/slippery surfaces.

				- Lo gear - same as Part-time, but with extra
				  (downward) gearing, giving really good pulling
				  power and traction.

	Quadra-Trac:	Intended to be used full time. It is basically like the
			Selec-Trac full-time, except that it supposedly detects
			when one wheel starts to slip, and locks up automatically
			to get you out of the situation.

When deciding what gearbox to use, remember that when you are in a position
which *really* requires that you use FWD, you probably don't want to have to
worry about changing gears, and fiddling with the clutch. I am basically a
manual gearbox person, but in this case, think that auto is probably better.

Which FWD system to choose ? Well, personal opinion, but ... avoid Comand-Trac.
It just isn't flexible enough.

Quadra-Trac may be good if you don't want to think about what FWD option
to use, but as with any automatic system, it has limitations.
I don't know how true it is, but I read in an off-the-road magazine that
the system used by Quadra-Trac can be fooled into doing exactly the wrong
thing - they cited an example of being sideways-on on a hill, with two
wheels on ice, and the other two on tarmac - and sitting there with the two
wheels on the ice spining ...
It is also new - Selec-Trac has been around for some time, and is proven
technology ...

Philip
From: imam@yoko.rutgers.edu (Adil S. Imam)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Honda Del Sol
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:38:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <BzBCwJ.21sy@austin.ibm.com> adil@austin.ibm.com (Adil
Soofi) writes: 

> I am considering buying the new Honda Del Sol. Any words of wisdom from 
> rec.autos readers?
> 
> 

I would also consider Mazda Miata.

-AI
-- 

Adil S. Imam
Department of Computer Science,
Rutgers University,
New Brunswick, NJ 08903.

imam@paul.rutgers.edu
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: RADAR DETECTOR
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:56:19 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <3360201@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, chuang@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Chi Huang) writes:
|> I am thinkof  buying a radar detector, but have the following questions:

|> 1. What is ka wideband? Is this only use by the photo-radar, or not?

  Just another frequency band for radar to use.  The X and K bands 
  are vary narrow while the Ka is very wide making it harder to for
  a detector to scan the entire frequency range accurately and with
  few false alarms.  Photo-radar is NOT the only radar gun to use
  the Ka bandwidth.

|> 2. What is stalker radar?

  Its the latest lightweight, hand-held, instant-on or steady, battery
  powered Ka radar gun.  

|> I am looking at Corba Trapshotter RD-6000W and want to know your experience
|> with it if you have one. Thankx in advance for your reply.

  Well, the Cobra is better than nothing but three best are the
  Valentine 1, Bell 966STW, Passport 3200.


 TRAVIS
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Emblems, names and meanings...
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:02:00 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BzHo3t.BEq@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes...
>In article <JTCHEW-181292085436@b50-afrd4.lbl.gov> JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
>>> The Japanese logos are all SO unimaginative:  I think Subaru and Mazda are the
>>> only two that have any badge other than the first initial of the company.  
>>
>>Mitsubishi uses three diamonds on most or all of its products, from cars to
>>consumer electronics.  I forget what they are supposed to symbolize, but 
>>they have some meaning, or at least one was retrofitted by an ad agency. 
>>
>	
>	The Mitsubishi name means "Three Diamonds" in Japaneese, hence the logo.

Thanks to everybody who pointed this out, but what do the three diamonds
symbolize?

>>Founder and sole member, Coalition to Bring Back the Olds Hood Rocket
>	What are the membership requirements, I think it is one of the most
>tasteful logos, unless it is a hood ornament...

Philistine.  It must be a hood ornament.  No stylized vestiges on the
side, and none of this angular interpretation business.  I want the 
genuine voluptously curved post-Buck Rogers article right there on the 
hood where I can look at it.  Now that the GM cars are rounded again, 
it's time to bring back the Olds rocket (and while we're on the subject,
when did Saabs quit coming with mud flaps that had little stylized
airplanes on them?).  

With as many smilies as my cold-ridden crankiness will permit,
--Joe
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Not ALL YJs suck.........!!!!!
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:11:18 GMT

All this talk about Jeep quality brings up an interesting thought:  it seems
that most of the complaints about poor quality have been associated with Jeeps
built since 1989, when Chrysler took over.  The 1988 and older models appear
to have a more faithful following.  Is it reasonable to assume that maybe
AMC was a better automaker than Chrysler?


-- 
Alan Hepburn           "An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
National Semiconductor       what you have just found out."
Santa Clara, Ca              
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Will Rogers
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: "Most Tastelss Car Accessory Listing"
Date: 14 Dec 1992 07:57 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

>The [Fiero] body was replaced with a [cheesy] FAKE Testarossa body {...}

For awhile, there were at least two custom shops that specialized in
reskinning drop-shipped Fiero GTs.  One made a faux-rari such as you
described (better executed, one would hope) and the other did a custom
body of its own vaguely exotic-looking design.  Car and Driver waxed
sarcastic about the former.  

Ironically enough, I thought the body design was one of the few things 
the Fiero had going for it.  

Of course, none of this holds a candle to a backyard custom job (non-
running category) that I saw regularly for a few years -- a school bus 
with the body of a '55 Buick installed as a cupola.  It just disappeared
one day.  I never found out what happened to it.  Maybe someone parked
it next to an open-pit guano mine to draw visual attention away.

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Four wheel drive Autos
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:22:08 GMT
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) says:
[lotsa cars deleted]

>	Also the Stealth/3000GT have 4wd versions and VW has synchro versions
                                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>of its cars.  
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ but, sadly, not in the US, do they??(i dunno..just curious
for my own sake, as much as the orig. poster's, as i do not know where he
is from)
DREW
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