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From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Subject: Re: Why "Child Abuse Causes Homosexuality" Really Doesn't Fly
Organization: Memes-R-Us
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:56:50 GMT
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As much as this ongoing obsession of Clayton's with pedophilia grosses me out,
I have to stoop low enough to add my two cents.

Last night, Channel 9 had a special on sex offenders, focussing on the state
of Washington's problems with sexual offenders, and the effort to outlaw such
people being released by convicting them in advance of their next crime, IE,
by convicting them as 'sexual predators'. ( Channel 9 is one of the many fine
Bay Area PBS channels, only now freeing itself, after nearly a decade, of the
constraints which kept it from broadcasting such things in the past - IE, an
administration obsessed with popularity polls and media manipulation instead
of public service and educational access. )

The show focussed on two ends of the spectrum ... the potentially curable sex
offender, and the incurably psychotic murdurer.


kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:

>And we both know about the psychological origin of fixated pedophilia.
>It's the lack of maturation of sexual identity, leading to a narcissistic
>manifestation where the man identifies with the boy victim. Fixated
>pedophilia starts often before the onset of puberty; fixated pedophiles
>most often start abusing when they are themselves adolescents.

This is in agreement with the special's findings and comments of experts
interviewed.


>Assigning an adult orientation to them is meaningless. They don't like
>men or women, just kids. The fact that boys are targeted only reflects
>the fact that men are almost always those afflicted with this disorder,
>and they identify with boys more easily. But just look at most publicized
>pedophilia cases, and you'll see that fixated pedophiles also target girls
>if the opportunity arises.

Absolutely. A lot of it wasn't sexuality, it was aggression, and a lot of it
occurred when they were still children or very young adults.


>Now, REGRESSED pedophiles, that's another story. Since they HAVE developed
>an adult sexual orientation, and merely regressed into pedophilia, their
>object choice DOES reflect their sexuality.
>
>Got any data on the relative victim gender incidences for regressed
>pedophiles?

The whole arguement is a waste of everyone's time. Clayton is obsessed with
the topic, as far as I can tell, and blind to anything but his opinions.


PS : it was a pretty heavy show. the man they interviewed collected photos
of his young victims, both alive, and hanging from the shower curtain rod ...
< shudder > ... believe me, it had nothing to do with homosexuality at all.


-- richard

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