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From: grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST))
Subject: A good editor is "vi"
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:48:19 GMT

	Well I ahve been overwhelmed by the response for 
a vi list. Orginally I was just going to tout what it could 
do, but most people seem to want to know how more than what.
The best thing to do is to get the VI Reference card, you 
could buy a book, but then who read the whole thing (which
is what you would have to do) and most vi books are for novices
(ie very boring). O'Riely and Assoc. prints an outstanding book
on vi, but I have never read it. and there is always "man vi"
Teh Cucumber Book Shop carries it (they are located in Rockville
MD, but they do mail order). I think they even have and 800 
number, Ahh hah! they do. 1-800-223-UNIX.
It is ISBN number 0-916151-41-7

	I am compiling a list, but I don't know how long it
will take me to mail it to all the people who responded. Is there
a vi newsgroup??? Does any one know how to start one? Seems the
way to go. I could definately start it and keep it full of
neat tips. (I think)

	If you have a direct question about vi -- email me. If 
you just ask or have asked for the list, well you are in the que.

Later,
	Mike
	ZMEG@AACC.bitnet
	or grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: revu@ellis.uchicago.edu (Sendhil Revuluri)
Subject: Re: Mac educational discount prices
Reply-To: revu@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:54:13 GMT

Prices at the University of Chicago for the "Apple Back-to-School
Specials" are:

(internal monitor)
Mac Classic II 4/40	$1035
Mac Classic II 4/80	$1135
PowerBook 145 4/40	$1860

(needs external monitor)
Mac LC II 4/40		$1140
Mac LC II 4/40		$1340
Mac IIsi 3/40		$1475
Mac IIsi 5/80		$1675

All of the above include Apple Keyboard,  American Heritage Dictionary,
Roget's Thesaurus, Correct Grammar, Random House Encyclopedia. Resume
Writer and Calendar Creator (all this software preinstalled, with
on-disk docs only).  Also included is either Word or MacWrite II (with
MacPaint) (normal educational packages, i.e., no upgrades allowed).

Apple HR-RGB 13" mon.	$570
Apple Pers LW LS	$725


Sendhil Revuluri (s-revuluri@uchicago.edu)
From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Printers cost too much!
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:12:13 GMT
	<BARNETT.92Sep8091905@grymoire.crd.ge.com>
	<1992Sep8.191221.19793@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY

In article <1992Sep8.191221.19793@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> chen@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (chen) writes:
>   In article <BARNETT.92Sep8091905@grymoire.crd.ge.com> Bruce Barnett,
>   barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com writes:
>   >
>   BTW, Apple LaserWriter LS is not a SCSI-Link Printer. It connects to Mac
>   via serial 
>   port.


I don't know why you quoted a blank line from my posting, changed the
subject line, and posted a response that has nothing to do with my
question. I never asked about the LaserWriter LS, which is, I believe,
300 dpi and therefore not a hi-res printer.

--
Bruce Barnett <barnett@crd.ge.com> uunet!crdgw1!barnett
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Document management software
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:09:39 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Sep2.222537.9860@pony.Ingres.COM> (comp.sys.mac.misc), corman@Ingres.COM (Anthony Corman) writes:
> We're looking for document management software for our Tech Pubs dept.
> Anyone have any recommendations? What we'd like:
> 
> o Version control
> o Accepts Framemaker files, preferably accepts whole folders.
> o Has access control, check-in and check-out, history.
> o Not shareware, prefer supported commercial product
> 
> I know there are code management systems that do this type of thing;
> one of those might be suitable. Advice appreciated.

Check out VersionMaster from Astar Technologies.  It's from a real
company, is supported, and it can handle any file type.

AStar Technologies
P.O. Box 1100
Littleton MA 01460
(508) 486-8532

--  Michael Peirce      --   peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org
--  Peirce Software     --   Suite 301, 719 Hibiscus Place
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux)
Subject: Re: Mac educational discount prices
Reply-To: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: New Technology, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:45:33 GMT

The IIsi 5/80 is $1570 at the University of Alabama/Huntsville and $1580 at
the Georgia Tech bookstore.

The kicker is that both of these bookstores have to order from Apple. Apple
quoted my UAH contact a FOUR-WEEK delivery time. Blech.
-- 
Paul Robichaux, KD4JZG          | I shouldn't bitch / I shouldn't cry
robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov   | I'd start a revolution but I don't have time.


Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:16067 comp.sys.mac.system:11655
From: David_Anthony_Guevara@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: latest Foreign File Access version?
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 92 15:30:15 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa


Does anyone know what the latest Foreign File Access version is?
I just upgraded my Mac IIci to 32Mb of memory and I found out
(after much cursing and screaming) that the following files used
by my CD ROM Disk are causing bus errors on startup:

Foreign File Access, V1.1
Audio CD Access V1.1
High Sierra Access V2.01
ISO 9660 Access V2.01

My Mac IIci is running with 32Mb RAM, System 7.01 with System Tuneup
v1.1.1.  I shut off virtual memory and turned on 32-bit addressing
from the memory control panel.  

I have the following extensions/cdevs loading at startup:
GateKeeper/GateKeeper Aid, SuitCase II, DataPak, Disk Doubler, Jasmine
SAM, After Dark, SCSI probe, RetroSpect SCSI, The Grouch, Wallpaper
and probably some others that I can't remember.  At any rate, if I
remove the Foreign File Access from my system, the bus errors disappear.
This makes my CD Rom Drive unusable tho'...  Haven't checked ftp.apple.com
because I've lost my link to the net.  Thanks for any help you can give
me...

-- David Guevara,
   Internet:  David_Anthony_Guevara@cup.portal.com
From: mschatzberg@mhnj.sbi.com (Mike Schatzberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Iron-On Toner
Keywords: T-Shirt toner
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:26:18 GMT
Reply-To: mschatzberg@mhnj.sbi.com (Mike Schatzberg)
Organization: Salomon Inc, Rutherford, NJ, USA

All sorts of interesting laser printer products can be obtained
from Black Lightning, Inc, located at: 

Riddle Pond Road
West Topsham, VT 05086

phone: 802-439-6462     fax: 802-439-6463
or     800-252-2599

T-Shirt toner, printing on mugs and other objects, as well as
color toners and refill toner services are offered.


Mike Schatzberg, Salomon Inc, 745 Route 3, Rutherford, NJ 07070 USA
Phone: (201) 896-7622   Email: mschatzberg@mhnj.sbi.com
From: bx341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert E. Winston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Help: Require INTERNET email address for Salient
Date: 11 Sep 1992 03:13:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 > Does Salient have an Internet address? A CompuServe one?

Salient Software   76174.2440@Compuserve.com
From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Powerbook 100 discontinued
Date: 3 Sep 92 09:54:46 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

"Apple has dropped two of its best-selling Powerbook models, just a year
after their inception [...] The Powerbook 100 and 140 are out; the latter has
been replaced by the 145 [...]

"News of the Powerbook 100's discontinuation was a surprise to many Apple
dealers, because of the model's enormous popularity.  'We've taken the last
150 and are confident we can clear the stock,' said Robert Green, technical
director at Apple dealer KRCS Sams Group."

                         -- PC Dealer, September 2nd.

Well, looks like it's yet another case of "Apple shoots self in foot".  I'm
glad I bought mine in time.


mathew
-- 
"Even the most bizarre of the unions (probably that between a cat's gall
 stone and a single note 'G' from CNN's ident theme) managed to convey a
 sense of rampant impropriety."  -- 'Fortran Five', Simon G. Lawrence Leonard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: Re: Mac Mail Systems:Which one to choose?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:21:02 GMT

In article <92248.101936A43345@TRMETU.BITNET> A43345@TRMETU.BITNET writes:
>    we can upgrade the MS Mail to 3.0 or we can choose another mail system.
>    (Quick Mail, ...).  So, which one to choose?We need a comparison
>    considering price, user number vs price , efficiency, etc..
>        Thanks.

and which of these are compatible with DOS mailreaders? I too am in a
predicament where ~30 macs are ethernetted together and accessible
through internet. However, we have to be able to interact with DOS 
machines as well. Can you think of an appopriate configuration?
   thanks in advance
steve
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: fsullivn@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: System 7 BUG:  Mac Plus keyboard flaw
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:36:33 GMT

                          IMPORTANT BUG IN SYSTEM 7

              Conflict between System 7 and Mac Plus keyboards.
                                      
The command-right_arrow combination seems to be the main visible effect of this
problem.

For example, in Word, you use cmd-right_arrow to move the insertion point one
word to the right.
For example, when using Finder windows in text view, you can expand the
currently selected folder by typing cmd-right_arrow.

On a Mac Plus, neither of these seem to work.  When I use my Hard Disk to boot
another Mac, with an ADB keyboard, there seems to be no problem--ergo, the
problem is not with application software.
The problem exists in my Mac Plus regardless of what extensions are present or
if none are present--ergo, not an INIT/cdev problem.
The problem exists with Word and the Finder, but may also effect WriteNow and
MacWrite, ergo, don't blame Microsoft (for once).
The problem exists on other Mac Pluses, ergo it's not my machine (CAVEAT:  I've
only been able to try it out on one other Plus--But it did test positive.)
There appears to be no problem with other command-arrow keys, and
cmd-shift-right_arrow also behaves itself.  Ergo, it's an isolated problem.

As I say, this only seems to effect Pluses, but I haven't been able to test it
on enough to be sure of this.  So if you own a Plus, please check whether the
command-right_arrow key works.  An easy way to do this is to use the
Commands... option in Word.  Find the command "Move one word to the right" and
view the keyboard equivalents.  Cmd-right should be there.  Regardless of
whether it is or not, ask to assign a new (i.e. an additional keystroke to that
command).  A dialog box comes up asking you to type the new keystroke.  Type
command-right_arrow.  In my experience, Word does not respond to this
keystroke.  If it doesn't, THEN THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR KEYBOARD.  Let
Apple know immediately and perhaps they'll try to correct the problem.

Either way, I'd be grateful if you could let me know what happens when you test
your keyboard.

Thanks,

Fergus Sullivan

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From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: *.fli viewer for the mac?
Date: 6 Sep 92 05:15:46 GMT
Distribution: na

Pardon my ignorance, but what is an .fli file? Is it animation
(like .dl, .gl) or an image type?????

James
From: GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: SE won't boot from external SCSI?
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:51:54 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

Nothing ordinary that I do will cause my SE to start up from my brand-new
external SCSI drive.  There's nothing wrong with the drive, because if I
dismantle the System Folder on the internal hard drive, it starts fine on
the external.  (I consider this an _extraordinary_ operation.)
 
I hear rumors that this is a known problem with some versions of the SE ROM.
I have ROM Version = 118.  Is this the known problem?  Is there a known
solution?
 
Thanks,
gil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Ray Zimmerman <Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Share-able applications?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D38AA87502E0B5@ziklag.ee.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 16: 04:08 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: rz10@cornell.edu
Organization: Electrical Engineering, Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:59:16 GMT

I too am interested in finding out which applications are share-able.
Is there a list somewhere?

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 Ray Zimmerman            \ 397 Theory Center, Electrical Engineering
                           \ Cornell University, Ithaca NY  14853
 Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu  \ Phone: 607-254-8819  Fax: 607-255-9072
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:23:50 GMT

In article <ajross.715985399@husc10> ajross@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrew Ross) writes:
>ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>
>>In <92252.141443ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> Michael Bode writes:
>
>>>No it doesn`t and yes it does. The name of the diskette is not A: it is a name
>>>of up to 11 characters that is almost never used. At least I don`t know anyone
>>>who gives names to his floppies (except mac users exchanging disks with PC`s).
>
>>I don't see what exchanging disks with PCs has to do with naming disks.
>>Maybe you think Mac users are just doing this to annoy you.  I name all
>>my floppies *except* the ones I exchange with PCs.  It makes it easier
>>to know what's on them.  I bet most other Mac users do the same thing, 
>>even if they never exchange disks with PCs at all. 
>
>>You see, the Macintosh is smart enough that it actually knows what 
>>floppy disk is in the drive at any given time.  On the PC, if you're
>>saving your work on a certain disk, then remove that disk to do some 
>>other task, and forget to change disks back before you save your work
>>again, you may end up saving your latest version on the wrong disk
>>without ever knowing it.  Several days later, when you insert the disk
>>you *thought* you'd saved it on, you find that your latest work just
>>isn't there.  That won't happen on the Mac because you can see the name
>>of the disk you're saving it to.
>
>OK fine, lets all go out and buy Mac's 'cause you can name disks.  Back
>when floppies were king, this was a MAJOR advantage;  but now...  Well,
>hands up people, how many of you use your floppies more than once a week? 
>How many use them for anything but backup and software installation?  Of
>those of you who do use them, how many are not planning on upgrading to a
>better file exchange format in the near future?  At least where I am,
>floppies are dead.

These problems aren't limited to floppies.  I like to see my disks on
the screen with names, and I like to know that a given name always
refers to a particular disk (including floppies, hard disks, hard disk
partitions, RAM disks, file server volumes, etc.).  In the PC world, the
same fileserver volume may be mounted as D: on one machine, E: on
another machine, and so on.  Between all the partitions of hard disks,
RAM disks, file server volumes, etc. it's very difficult to tell what's
what (not to mention that some programs store pathnames in their
configuration data, and would get confused if the data were on "E:" all
of a sudden, instead of "D:").

I'm not one to argue that there are absolutely *no* advantages of PCs
over Macs, but you have to admit that disk handling is one clear
advantage that the Mac has over PCs.

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Math graphing software
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:16:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Sep5.051639.13109
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <lacv7aINNeco@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes:
>I'm looking for some software that I can use to graph
>math functions, mostly algebra.
>
>Mathematica is nifty, but out of the budget by a long
>shot, as is Maple (?).
>
>Any suggestions?
>
TEMATH $40 from Brooks/Cole publishers is good. 
 Also, there is a shareware prog.
GrahpToolz

Dennis
watson@clark.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: SOFTWARE SUMMARY ARCHIVE?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:16:27 GMT


Does such a fiend exist? I mean, is there any site that has the summaries
and evaluations of various popular software lying around? I think that would
be one of the best concepts, and would easily surpass hoarding hundreds
of MacUser summaries, and be the most convenient option by far.
   If you've ever used the music lyrics archive, you know how convenient
it would be to have a site where users contribute evaluations on software
they've used and abused... Learning from others experiences is clearly
the best way...

on an off note, the reason I thought of this is because I"m trying to
quickly figure out before a meeting if Quickmail DOS is compatible with
Quickmail MAC on the same network, and if I just need TOPS software or 
some other medium to connect the two?
   any ideas?

steve
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: awells@fenris.claremont.edu (Adam "Servo" Wells)
Subject: PD/Shareware HD defragger?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:38:55 GMT

Does anyone know of a PD/shareware hard disk defragger for the Mac?  I have
a Mac SE with a very slow HD, and my disk is very fragmented.  If you do
know of one (and an ftp site where it can be found), please email me.

Thanks!!!

	Adam B Wells
	Harvey Mudd College
	awells@jarthur.claremont.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin, Girl Wonder)
Subject: Re: Mac Mail Systems: Which one to choose?
Reply-To: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:32:51 GMT

In article <BuDEr2.FL5@cs.dal.ca>, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>
>and which of these are compatible with DOS mailreaders? I too am in a
>predicament where ~30 macs are ethernetted together and accessible
>through internet. However, we have to be able to interact with DOS 
>machines as well. Can you think of an appopriate configuration?
>   thanks in advance

We use Macintosh Microsoft Mail and PC Microsoft Mail and a product called
MS Mail Connection which allows the two platforms to exchange address lists.
We also have SMTP gateways for both platforms to allow them to send Internet
mail.  The PC SMTP gateway is from Microsoft.  The Mac SMTP gateway is from
StarNine.

***********************************************************************
Robin Goldstone, Systems Software Specialist
California State University, Chico  Computing Services
rgoldstone@oavax.csuchico.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: nschultz@zeus.calpoly.edu (Ned Schultz)
Subject: Confirmation of ROM serial numbers
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 01:26:57 GMT


I need some help identifying some Mac ROM serial numbers.  Here are
the numbers of the ROMs: 342-0220-A and 342-0021-A.

What I need to know is whether these are 64K or 128K ROMs.

Please email if you can help.  Thanks...

Ned Schultz
nschultz@nike.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Mike_Peters@vos.stratus.com (Mike Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: LaTeX
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:54:05 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <jxhqbqmz@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Tone)
wrote:
> 
> Sorry if this is a FAQ but does anybody know if a version of LaTeX is
> available for the mac. Also, if one does exist are there any good PD /
> shareware dvi or postscript viewers around. 
> 
A shareware editor called "Alpha" has LaTeX support built in.  I found it
on CompuServe and was reviewed in a recent MacWeek.  It is an Emacs style
editor for the Mac complete with keyboard macros and most other Emacs
functions.

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:16033 comp.sys.mac.comm:8696
Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 10:19:36 TUR
From: <A43345@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.comm,
Subject:    Mac Mail Systems:Which one to choose?

    Hello,
       We have been using MS Mail 2.0 in a Macintosh network having 35 users
    under System 6.**.
    We want to upgrade our systems to 7.** but MS Mail 2.0 does not work
    under system 7.**. To continue the communicationwithin the network
    we can upgrade the MS Mail to 3.0 or we can choose another mail system.
    (Quick Mail, ...).  So, which one to choose?We need a comparison
    considering price, user number vs price , efficiency, etc..
        Thanks.

             Kadir Koc,          Middle East Technical University
          a43345@trmetu.bitnet         Ankara, Turkey































Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: page@cray.com (Michael Page)
Subject: Re: Theorist vs. Mathematica vs. Maple V?
Summary: Symbolic Algebra Codes for the mac
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:06:46 CDT

I have never had the chance to use Maple or Theorist or Mathematica but was
once a dedicated user of SMP (predecessor to Mathematica) and Macsyma. I
shopped for a long and hard for a mac symbolic package but price was always
a barrier to me. Finally, AT LONG LAST, I caught wind of ALJABR which is a
port of Macsyma to the mac. It does not have a pretty user interface but it's
got all of the guts of the old Macsyma.

I just finished a project requiring extended fp arithmetic, power series and
integration and was absolutely amazed at what came out of my old mac+ at home
and IIfx at work.

ALJABR is definitely worth looking at.



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc