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From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: To NOT or not to NOT, that is the question...
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:35:21 GMT

zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) writes:

>God I wish all people would stop posting those silly NOT at the end of 
>their posts.. I mean loging in and seeing...
> 
>This Newsgroup is really cool....NOT!
> 
>Enya needs to die......NOT!
> 
>Sheesh! When are some of these schoolboys going to get over their 
>addiction to putting NOT at the end of each sentence.....
> 
You tell 'em, Zoltar baby! See, these New Zealanders really aren't all that
bad. They're getting behind all the good causes, the war against sticking that
silly word at the end of a sentence, and the promotion of good grammar.
Pip pip!

Villians still surround us, however! The morons at TAS-TV (short for TASteless-
TV) decided not to have two episodes of "Married With Children" as a filler
during the cricket, and instead subjected Laurie 8 (and I know for a fact that
I was the only person in Hobart up, awake and interested in a NSW v WA one-day
match on in Perth and hence telecast until nearly one am) to an hour of "The
Two Ronnies".

Let that be a warning to you all!

Laurie 8

Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
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Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world

Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singularity)
Subject: Re: Hypnotically trapped by aus.flame...
Organization: Discontinuous
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 23:17:38 GMT

In article <osborn.718517417@dragon> osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>There is evidence and there is evidence. Metaphysically, I know aus.flame
>(the *mind*) exists, but within the rules of scientific evidence, I cannot 
>prove it.  The yet-to-be-crossed line, odd though it is, is central to your 
>existence in trying to be both a human and a communicator. It seems to me 
>that this problem is an ontological fallacy, though not a generative one. 
>(At least, if we construe understanding to be induced from reality, rather 
>than fantasy). 

I suspect a proof does not exist, it is possible to conduct the Turing
Test repeatedly and get widely differing results, noise if you like.
Metaphysically, we have a chaotic (generic) concious that may spontaneously
through course of subtle and perhaps random influences exhibit recognisable
indicators of cognitive existence. Generally we observe a large set of
responses to a giving input (say a Newbie poster to limit the scenario),
again there is a slowly deacying respose/action loop, ordered but not
entirely causal, rather noisey in my opinion. A particularly insightful
post may focus the attention of such a collection and we appear to
settle into a predicatable conciousness. 

Singo - "Its about time we some content"
 
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From: cddukes@c00508-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu (PakRat's Anonymous)
Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.best.of.internet,alt.flame,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Shit for NZ'ers brainz
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:42:36 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

In article <1992Oct14.155326.14780@ninja.zso.dec.com> fab@fungus.zso.dec.com (F Avery Bishop) writes:
>In article <9228810.20057@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson) writes:
>>sykopath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mickey) writes:
>>
>>>>The spelling is incorrect, but you are schitzophrenic....
>>
>>>So is yours, Rod.  He is schizophrenic.
>>
>>Is that someone who's missing a humour gland and a wit detector?
>>You're a fucking meathead, Mickey.
>>
>>Fraser.
>
>  And what does ANY of the above have to do with J Danforth Quayle?
>  Please, take your idiotic flamewar off alt.fan.dan-quayle .
>
>/fab
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It doesn't... then again... what does Quayle have to do with anything?

Chris "the PakRat" Dukes______________________________cddukes@eos.ncsu.edu
PGP key available upon request.   
Political debates seem like a good idea until you realize that if you
sit and watch the candidates come unglued, you won't vote for them either.
Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.best.of.internet,alt.flame,alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: sykopath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mickey)
Subject: Re: Shit for NZ'ers brainz
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 11:16:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.151648.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> you write:
>In article <8TiBsB4w165w@amigans.gen.nz>, zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) writes:
>> rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>>
>> I am living a life right now! I don't think living two lives would be 
>> much good, as then I'd be a shiczoprheenic! (sp?)
>
>The spelling is incorrect, but you are schitzophrenic....

So is yours, Rod.  He is schizophrenic.

Do you have a brain, Rod?

Scratch that; do you have a single functioning neuron?

>Same to you, penis-proboscus.

Sorry to break this to you, but the correct term is "penis-proboscis"...

Your inability to spell is exceeded only by your inability to entertain.

You bore me, Rod.  Please leave.


*kisses*,

Mickey "Ersticken Sie.  No, no, 'erstick'!" Phoenix.
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Osborn's Kill file - is this about right?
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:41:54 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
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In article <brent.719123837@coffeeshop>, Disco Inferno Curtis writes:

> osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:
> 
> 
>  >721708450:aus.flame:!n=:Grant Thoms
>  >721708468:aus.flame:!n=:pat walsh
>  >721708489:aus.flame:!n=:Doug Walker
>  >721708846:aus.flame:!n=:rswiftrw@cc
>  >721708862:aus.flame:!n=:JsNO BAR---NUNN
>  >721708879:aus.flame:!n=:Ethan Straffin
>  >721708895:aus.flame:!n=:Mickey
>  >721708911:aus.flame:!n=:James Parry
>  >721708925:aus.flame:!n=:Dov Berns
>  >721708938:aus.flame:!n=:Tim Cook
>  >/staff/cmu/osborn/.nn 71 dragon >
>  >
>  >Did I leave anyone out?
> 
> aus.flame:!n:Cyclops
> aus.flame:!n:Andrew Clayton
> aus.flame:!n:George Heard
> aus.flame:!n:Graham Jenkins
> aus.flame:!n:James Burton
> aus.flame:!n:Rod Swift
> aus.flame:!n:Singularity
> aus.flame:!n:The Avatar
> aus.flame:!n:u2119784@csdvax
> aus.flame:!n:daniel
> 
>                        Brent.

aus.flame:!n:*

That ought to save some time and effort for all concerned.

Sheesh, Brent. One can't even trust a Psych student to be
non-lame these days.

Dac
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Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Shit for NZ'ers brainz
From: zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 10:10:24 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

nunn@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (JsNO  BAR---NUNN) writes:

>   If New Zealanders are a mob of sheep <you know whats'>, we Australians are 
> how come they say that "Australia rides on the Sheeps back"
> 
> 
> 
Ha Ha Ha, Hello Jason!!!!! :)  
 

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Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: Osborn's Kill file - is this about right?
Keywords: nerds and turds
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:21:56 GMT

Gee Brent, nobody ever posts here anymore...
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: TUTORS!!!!!!
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:01:51 GMT

mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch) sucks up to someone:

> ...linguistic talent. It was a shame that most of the errors were 
> typing ones, but we cannot expect even the most astute of tutors to
> look beyond that which is put before them.  >		   mddeitch.

It is Mark's privilege to assume that most of the errors in his recent post
were typing errors. However, his position of privilege is a legacy of his
status as a relatively new human on this planet, with all the exuberance
and folly of youth - not to ignore his relative inexperience in the academic
arena. So, whilst his assumption may be heeded, it is none-the-less wrong.

Typing errors are the least of his worries. The tutors (some of them),
however, may be somewhat less than perfect - but aren't we all?

Tomasso.
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Shit for NZ'ers brainz
From: zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 09:59:42 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

> 
> Speaking of felching, I believe you have had that experience with many sheep
> and assorted native birds of NZ called kiwis.
 
erm.... Hasn;t anybody told you that you have Kangaroo smegma on your 
breath?
 
> 
> And I just hate it when I find someone is so weak as not to answer my origina
> witty repartee.
 
Erm, witty??? I think not,i just have better things to do with my time, 
like answer mail, and sleep....
 
> 
> Get a life, or answer my original message.
> 
> No!  Do both!
 
I am living a life right now! I don't think living two lives would be 
much good, as then I'd be a shiczoprheenic! (sp?)
 
> 
> Rod
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Rack off!

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Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.slack,alt.religion.kibology,alt.culture.usenet
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Bored?
Followup-To: alt.religion.kibology,alt.culture.usenet
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:43:11 GMT


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Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.flame
From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: Shit for NZ'ers brainz
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:56:19 GMT

sykopath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mickey) writes:

>...there might be some decent people reading this, and I don't want to 
>put them through it.

I really liked this bit...

Laurie (the decent person) 8

Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
Unashamed 70s man, glad to be glam.      | Have Pebble-Mix - Laurie 8         
Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: TUTORS!!!!!!
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:19:02 GMT

mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch) writes:

> Well it pleases me that some tutors in this world have some form of
> literacy, and I am glad that they can at least correct grammaticalc
> and spelling errors, even if done with a degree of spite. Now it at
> least becomes apparent, the degree to which the unwillful subjection 
> to neurologically destitute monotremes, i.e. Illiterate tutors, can 
> hinder a once respectable, god fearing 3 unit English student's 
> linguistic talent. It was a shame that most of the errors were 
> typing ones, but we cannot expect even the most astute of tutors to
> look beyond that which is put before them.

Well, here we reach the crux of the problem - I tutor Chemistry, and there
wasn't a problem with your article with regards chemistry.

Rule #2 for tutors - nitpick whenever possible.

Laurie 8

Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
Unashamed 70s man, glad to be glam.      | Have Pebble-Mix - Laurie 8         
Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world

Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: TUTORS!!!!!!
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:06:04 GMT

(Mark Deitch) writes:

 >  What in God's name is this world coming to?????????? 

Christmas.

                  Brent.

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Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: Enya
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:10:28 GMT

u2119784@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>> Enya must die. (Not!)
>DON'T NOT!

AGREED!

Laurie 8

Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
Unashamed 70s man, glad to be glam.      | Have Pebble-Mix - Laurie 8         
Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: Osborn's Kill file - is this about right?
Keywords: nerds and turds
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:37:17 GMT

osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:


 >721708450:aus.flame:!n=:Grant Thoms
 >721708468:aus.flame:!n=:pat walsh
 >721708489:aus.flame:!n=:Doug Walker
 >721708846:aus.flame:!n=:rswiftrw@cc
 >721708862:aus.flame:!n=:JsNO BAR---NUNN
 >721708879:aus.flame:!n=:Ethan Straffin
 >721708895:aus.flame:!n=:Mickey
 >721708911:aus.flame:!n=:James Parry
 >721708925:aus.flame:!n=:Dov Berns
 >721708938:aus.flame:!n=:Tim Cook
 >/staff/cmu/osborn/.nn 71 dragon >
 >
 >Did I leave anyone out?

aus.flame:!n:Cyclops
aus.flame:!n:Andrew Clayton
aus.flame:!n:George Heard
aus.flame:!n:Graham Jenkins
aus.flame:!n:James Burton
aus.flame:!n:Rod Swift
aus.flame:!n:Singularity
aus.flame:!n:The Avatar
aus.flame:!n:u2119784@csdvax
aus.flame:!n:daniel

                       Brent.

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                    asked Alice.     |    School of CompSci
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From: zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: To NOT or not to NOT, that is the question...
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 10:22:25 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

summer@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Mark Summerfield) writes:

> New Zealanders are really cool and intelligent members of the human race
> with absolutely no tendencies toward ovine fornication, and are amongst the
> most skilled and awe-inspiring flamers in the known universe...
> 
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Ha ha ha ha ha... erg.. Well, that was kinda Funny, I'll give you 
hmm..... 0.5.....

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Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singularity)
Subject: Re: Aotearoan Crap
Organization: Discontinuous
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 03:33:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.093242.3297@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u2119784@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>yes but you don't make jokes about sheep.... its serious business
>for you...

I agree, so difficult to find good dinner party conversation these
days.

Singo - "Pathetic!"
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: Hypnotically trapped by aus.flame...
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  9 Oct 92 01:22:10 GMT

Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singularity) writes:

>Metaphysically, we have a chaotic (generic) concious that may spontaneously
>through course of subtle and perhaps random influences exhibit recognisable
>indicators of cognitive existence. 

Indicators? It is these very indicators I have detected in aus.flame.

The indicators are instances where an individual is obviously wrong, but
for some apparent reason due to self-concept, the individual persists in
futile assertions. Ie, it is not the stochastic and emergent consequences
of system behaviour that reveal personal identity, it is the extent to
which random and environmental influences are processed *approximately*
and (with non-zero frequency) commit errors of *judgement*.

However, for a child at play, how can there be an error, grasshopper?

Tomasso.
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Alter Ego (was Hypnotically trapped by aus.flame...)
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 22:31:36 GMT

osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>If we do create another kind of life, I consider us morally bound to
>make the attempt to determine if it is conscious in some way like us.
>(We have to determine whether we recognise them as having rights).
>I further consider us morally bound to apply criteria that we ourselves
>could pass, without appealing to irrelevant features like appearance.

What is consciousness? What is the dream state? What is the deep sleep state?
What is the turiya state? What is real?? Is the conscious state of 
consciousness but just a Window(tm) onto the universal consciousness? Is the
universal consciousness God!?  Is a moral sense just a smidgin, a minute 
skerrick of, a sweet f.a.(for Iain) sized piece of, (refer thesaurus), the 
universal consciousness sneeking through into our conscious awareness? What 
is quality? Is not everything animate, and inanimate eg, DAC, part of the 
big picture and are we not but players on the stage of life?  Who are we to 
play the God, which in reality we are, and make such judgements? I ask you. 

>We might also consider the extent of parasitism: it is parasitic on us,
>or is it we who are the parasites? 

The simple answer here requires no deep philosophical insight, but merely a 
trip to the maze of twisty passages of the Avatars neuron network, to know 
that parachutists land on parasites!



mutatis mutandis mutato nomine nonsum qualis eram note bene
Newsgroups: aus.flame
From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: Aotearoan Crap
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:06:09 GMT

zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) writes:


>Ok, ok, how many jokes have you seen posted by us about sheep...... 
>Answer - None.......

I don't get it - where's the punchline?

Laurie 8

Laurie 8 <heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> | Some Driveways are concrete
Theoretical Chemistry PhD student        | Some Driveways have bricks
University of Tasmania, Australia        | Other Driveways
Unashamed 70s man, glad to be glam.      | Have Pebble-Mix - Laurie 8         
Opinions expressed above are those not only of Laurie 8, but the whole world

Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.flame,alt.clueless,alt.newbie
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Keep Your Flaming Shit off Soc.Culture.New-Zealand
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:13:42 GMT

In article <1bj5cvINN31n@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> 
> To the idiot who made the posting to the Soc.culture.New-Zealand.
> Keep your arrogrant closeminded bigoted flames to your own group.
> There is nothing wrong with a little humor, but your posting is
> rude, inappropiate and doesn't belong there. Now take the newsgroup
> out of your subject line, thank you very much.
> 
> I'm out of this losers group

One NZ'er down, many thousand sheep to go!

Rod
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