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From: mongoose@pilot.njin.net (Gregory Daniels)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Cascade Juggling Program
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:21:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

>In article <9210291938.AA23358@clam.cis.ohio-state.edu> fayyad@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (elias antoine fayyad) writes:

>>Does anyone know of a cascade juggling program for PC's?
>>If not, how about any kind of juggling programs for PC's...?

>3-ball Juggler
>shareware from:
>First Magnitude, 175E Alex-Bell Rd, Suite 220-316, Centerville, OH 45459
>$15 registration gets latest version + 4-ball & 5-ball versions

>Left to its own devices, it juggles various 3 ball patterns at random.

I've seen a couple PD programs available for downloading to various
platforms (PC, Unix, etc), but I can't recall where they are
available. The only FTP site that comes to mind that might have them
is ticsys.tamu.edu, but I could be wrong. If anyone else has any
information, please post it. Thanks.
=====
Gregory Daniels, intangible juggler 
	"... so THAT'S why I keep dropping them!"
From: zetie@vax.oxford.ac.uk (The Edible Dormouse)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Juggling Volleyball
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:25:04 GMT
Organization: Oxford University, Dept of Antiquated Physics

In article <1992Nov3.175729.27204@inmos.co.uk>, jpk@freddy.inmos.co.uk (Jeremy Kirkwood) writes:
> 	Can anyone mail me (or post) a good set of rules for playing 
> juggling volleyball - you know, the game where everybody has two bean bags

This may not help (heh heh heh) but the version we play at FireNoise has one
'ball', being a toilet roll soaked in paraffin (kerosene) and then set alight.
Play like normal volleybell. You don't get too many smashes you see...

ken, with no hair on the back of the hands

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From: rob@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Convention in Leeds (UK)????
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:22:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Karl Funk (kpf@getafix) wrote:
: Hi,
: 	Rumour has it that there is a Juggling convention/meeting/general
: 	get-together in Leeds this weekend. Can anyone give me any details?
: 	Or have I been misled?

Nope you are correct, this SUnday 11 Nov, form 10am til 11pm at Leeds Uni
(i think the sports centre).  WOrkshops on Devil Stick and Diablo
at least 2 shops there (Firedance and Mush Pea) a bit of a bash in the evening
and hopefully good fun.  A whole bunch of us from York are heading down there.

cost I think 4.50 and 3.50 for concessions, I may be out by 50 p here.

Come along and throw some things about.

Rob.
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From: Norbert.Distler@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Subject: (none)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 11:10:04 +0100

list
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Paging Terry Jones...Paging Terry Jones
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:23:19 GMT
Organization: IUPUI


 
Yo, Terry!
 
Can you get in touch (or if someone has his current NewMex
Email address or phone number)...
 
Thanks!
 
 
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From: miller@quiver.enet.dec.com (Brian A. Miller)
Subject: Re: juggling 5
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:50:16 GMT


In article <1992Nov6.105728.6661@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, 
int281x@mdw026.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr S. Fox) writes...
> 
>     I've been working on 5 juggling five balls for some time now.  I'm at the         
>     stage where I can do about 9 or ten throws and then it's all over.  The
>     problem is that I've been at this stage for quite some time and don't
>     seem to be progressing in a hurry.  Can anyone who knows how to juggle
>     5 please tell me about how they learnt and problems encountered and how
>     to solve these problems.

I worked on 5 balls by setting goals.  Make 5 throws, catch all 5, and stop. 
Then make 6 throws, then 7,8,9,10...  Start moving the goals up by 5 or 10
throws at a time, until you can make at least 30 throws *every time*.  Then you
can start working on tricks, like half shower, etc.  However, always go back to
the basic cascade a couple of times in each practice session to reinforce the
basic pattern and improve yourself.  

Also, try not to move around while you're juggling.  Keep your feet still, or
juggle while kneeling down on the floor.

>  
>     Also,  how many people can actually juggle 5 ?  Does juggling 5 put one
>     in an elite class or is it assumed of someone who claims to be a juggler?

I'd say more than half of those who consider themselves "serious jugglers" and
go to juggling club meetings / IJA festivals / buy nice props from Dube / etc.
will eventually try 5 (or more) balls.  However, juggling more than 3 objects
should *not* be a prerequisite to enjoying juggling, or even a prerequisite to
performing. 


>     Also,  what's the general opinion of tennis balls for juggling 5 ?  Juggling
>     balls aren't that cheap !


Normal tennis balls != good juggling balls.
Modified/stuffed tennis balls are okay.
Beanbags, lacrosse balls, and silicone balls tend to be preferred by most
jugglers.


--Brian A. Miller
miller@quiver.enet.dec.com    -- this account expires Nov. 20
bnm3550@cs.rit.edu
BAM3550@ritvax.isc.rit.edu

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From: duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Duane Starcher)
Subject: Re: sore hands
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:31:35 GMT

>
>My problem is this: The handles of these things are wrapped with black
>vinyl electrical tape and are quite HARD. After a few tosses, my hands are
>quite sore becasue of the slapping of the clubs in my palms. My hands 
at one time were bruised so bad they were black and blue. 
>
	As Ed Carstens said, it will go away in time as you improve.  In
the meantime, try to relax not only your whole body, but float your
clubs a bit and keep the spin rate down.  Club juggling only looks fast
-- it is really quite slow, particularly after balls that don't go as
high when you have gained control.

	Better clubs will also help.  I learned with home-mades made out
of 2-litre Coke bottles, handles made of broomsticks with a crutch
tip for a knob.  You quickly learn either not to cry at each catch or to
gain some control of the clubs' rotation ...

	If you are worried that gloves look foolish, note that some of
the best club jugglers regularly wear a glove or two when passing.  I
even know a chap who has a face protector that looks like a baby nipple
when he juggles.  He happens to be the lead trumpet player in the
Baltimore Symphony Orchestra who doesn't dare damage his livelihood.
Nobody cares what you look like -- or if they so, so what?  Become their
folk hero.  We all need people on which to base our stories.  Be one.

	Once you get it under control you will only rarely damage your
hands (which will be tougher anyway).  Just remember that when you
decide to learn four clubs you will not have bruises on your hands, but
your forearms will be black and blue for about a month.  It goes with
the territory, as they say.  I have just started to learn five clubs,
but other than being hit in the face from collisions, I am not yet good
enough to know what else is going to be mutilated.  Maybe some other
disfigured jugglers can provide that information.

	Keep at it.  It only hurts for a little while. 
                                                      
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From: burtonm@theoden.inmos.co.uk (Mark Burton)
Subject: Re: Juggling Volleyball
Reply-To: burtonm@inmos.co.uk (Mark Burton)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:33:20 GMT

>
>I don't know about rules but you could try using a bouncy all as the
>extra one and allow it to (optionally) bounce before the first person
>on a side catches it.  I know its not volleyball rules, but it works
>quite well if there are relatively few people on the court (and it
>makes smashes recoverable).
>
>Paul


An excelent idea, except if there is a missed smash, it could take a 
while to recapture the ball! (we have been using a start stage ball,
which does bounce a bit, but has the advantage of being VERY bright,
so people can see it easily )

Mark.
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From: grego@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Ostravich)
Subject: Jugglers, et. al. in Las Vegas
Organization: USWEST Marketing Resources
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:41:30 GMT


Could someone please e-mail me, or post who is working Vegas and
where right now?  A friend is going to be in Vegas all next
week and wants to go see Anthony Gatto, so I figured I'd give him
a list of performers to see.  By the way, please include where
and when Gatto is working in this list if you know.

Any info appreciated,
grego
-- 
Greg Ostravich - grego@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com
Member of The Colorado Throwing Up Society: A Denver area juggling club
Throw up 'till you drop!           Hurl 'till you hurl!
Juggle 'till you puke!             Come throw up with us!
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: groan
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:55:26 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

well my photos from the Stockport (UK) minicon are mostly either overexposed 
or just plain boring.  I'll send the few good ones to The Catch, but I have 
no way to tell if they'll get used, so I'm still not gonna be famous. sigh.


        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
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From: mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu
Subject: The Juggling Capital
Reply-To: mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:44:08 GMT


I just visited this store yesterday, and was truly amazed at how nice both  
Neil and Dave are!  They don't even expect you to buy anything!

I would also like to say that Neil is very accomplished.
If you're ever in the D.C. area, I suggest you go visit The Juggling  
Capital, this nations ONLY juggling store.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
			mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu is

			     Marc Meltzer
		      President of The Meltz Inc
	 "Our job is to play games.  Our hobby is to consult."
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From: gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: sore hands
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:31:35 GMT

In article <cdm006-101192112526@145.1.92.113> cdm006@email.mot.com (Dick Magerl) writes:
>As a neophyte juggler, I've just started juggling clubs after getting bored
>with tossing beanbags around. Not knowing if my already vastly improved
>hand-eye coordination was good enough, I purchased the least expensive
>clubs I
>could find, at least until I determined I could do this.
>
>My problem is this: The handles of these things are wrapped with black
>vinyl electrical tape and are quite HARD. After a few tosses, my hands are
>quite
>sore becasue of the slapping of the clubs in my palms. My hands at one time
>were bruised so bad they were black and blue. 
>
First of all you bought Juggle Bug Clubs,  They are not the cheepest clubs
available, but I think that they might be the worst.  Yo can get a inexpensive
set of Dube Airofilght clubs or Todd Smith Elons (hope I got those spelled
correctly).  As for the bruises, try catching the clubs against your fingers instead of against the palm of your hand.  I think you will find that your fingers
will take the impact better then your hands do as they will bend back a little
minimising the impact.

>Am I the only one with this problem?
>Will I eventually develop calluses (or what have you) if I stick with this
>long enough?
>Are more expensive clubs padded to ease this problem?

No you are not the only one with this problem, as you are not the only one
who owns those clubs.
More expensive clubs will help, but as I said above there are clubs in the   
$7-$10 range (per club) that are not bad.

>
>I've somewhat relieved the problem by wearing a pair of bicycling gloves
>which have no fingers and are padded in the palm. They look kinda dumb
>though.

You and about half the jugglers out there use bicycling gloves.  While they
may look dumb, they might help.  I find that they get in my way when I am doing
my harder tricks, so I have avoided them.  I know many people (especialy those
with arthritis) who swear by them.
>
>Any comments would be appreciated.

Sure no problem.
>
>Dick Magerl

-Greg Cohen
gcohen@mailer.acns.fsu.edu

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From: amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Winter convention
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:47:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Originator: amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU

Anyone know much about this (the IJA winter convention in Las Vegas)?
Who is going to be there?  Will there be an regularly scheduled activities
or will it be "juggle til you puke" for 7 days straight?  Are people
going to be wearing the @ sign at this convention?  I have never been to
an IJA convention so it should be fun!

C "What if you are juggling at the speed of light and fall into a black
   hole?" Frog
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:48:33 -0500 
From: Andrew B Stellman <as7l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: sore hands

I haven't had this problem, but I would suggest looking into the foam
tape used to wrap bicycle handlebars. It's pretty cheap (under $10), and
can be found at any bike store...

Andy
From: ajl@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Lewis AJ)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Beginner 5 ball tricks
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:02:55 GMT

In <1992Nov06.192442.23241@rchland.ibm.com> andya@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Andrew Arhelger) writes:

>I recommend 5551 (in both directions), 55514, 51414, 75751, 7562.
>Some more elementary ones (which you are past, but would be worthwhile
>for the person who was getting 9 catches) are 52512, 150, 153, 450, 453.
>Most especially 150, since it forces the 5s to be asynchronous as they ought.

Also, 552, leading on to 55550. In each case, do an occasional one from a
normal four-ball async pattern, learning to start with either hand, then
work up to doing them continuously. When I first managed twelve throws
& catches with five, it was largely because of these patterns - I doubt very
much that I'd spent more than half an hour in total with five balls before
that time - I found it too frustrating.

Andy


 
-- 
Andy Lewis (ajl@ecs.soton.ac.uk) | 
Department of Electronics        | A juggler without a theme...
and Computer Science             | 
University of Southampton        |
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:40:43 EDT
From: <NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: sore hands
Distribution: usa
 <1992Nov11.145017.16921@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
 <1992Nov11.215044.27772@das.harvard.edu>

Marty Sasaki writes:
>Be careful about adding padding to a cub. If it is too heavy, it will
>unbalance the club.

 Yeh,... it'd be a damn shame to ruin the precision balance
  of a Jugglebug.

 David Naylor
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From: andya@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Andy Arhelger)
Subject: Beginner 5 ball tricks
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 19:05:09 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

I am working on the 5 ball cascade and can usually do about 30 throws and
catches. This gets pretty boring practicing over and over and over, so,
recently, I have tried 21 throws, catching 2 in each hand and then catching
the last with a neck catch. I can do this once and awhile and it is fun
trying something different. This seems to help my 5 ball pattern because
I must keep the pattern smooth and have enough control at the end to get
the toss just right for the neck catch. For anybody working on 5 balls
this might be a good trick to try.

Are there any other simple 5 ball tricks that I could work on for some
more variety?  I have tried an outside throw or 2 but haven't been 
successful yet.


Andy Arhelger
andya@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
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From: amorgan@csd-d-4.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog)
Subject: Re: Beginner 5 ball tricks
Originator: amorgan@csd-d-4.Stanford.EDU
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:20:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov05.190509.23754@rchland.ibm.com> 
  andya@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Andy Arhelger) writes:

>Are there any other simple 5 ball tricks that I could work on for some
>more variety?  I have tried an outside throw or 2 but haven't been 
>successful yet.

This is probably in the 5 ball file, but it is so long since we have
had a juggling question on this newsgroup that I couldn't resist.
I think that the over the top throws (do them continuously and you have
a half shower) are among the easiest, but some other good tricks include
tossing one high, collecting 4 and continuing with the pattern as the
high throw drops (can anyone do this with 7 balls?) and flashing 3
and 5 balls high.  You can try to make tosses under the leg but that
is rather tricky (tosses behind the back are even worse).  Try clawing
a ball every now and then, altering the height of your pattern to keep
things interesting or grabbing a ball, putting it under your chin and
continuing with 4 (for more fun, toss the 4 high, pull the ball out from
under your chin and continue with 5).

C Frog
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From: Norbert.Distler@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Subject: (none)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:56:25 +0100

send /pub/juggling/programs/xjuggle.sun4.executable
send /pub/juggling/programs/ibm-pc-uuencoded/jugglepro-2.3/*.*
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From: gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: sore hands
Organization: Florida State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 05:40:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.215044.27772@das.harvard.edu> mss@endor.uucp (Marty Sasaki) writes:
>Be careful about adding padding to a cub. If it is too heavy, it will
>unbalance the club.
>
>I'm learning to juggle clubs using softclubs, which are made of foam.
>I've been told that they aren't as well balanced as other clubs, but
>hands don't hurt.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Marty Sasaki			  Sasaki Kite Fabrications		
>  mss@das.harvard.edu		  26 Green Street
>  phone:  617-522-8546		  Jamaica Plain, MA 02130


Balance is in the hands of the beholder.
-Greg Cohen
gcohen@mailer.acns.fsu.edu
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From: wahlstro@monkfish.nosc.mil (Tim Wahlstrom)
Subject: VA. Jugglers
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:11:07 GMT

Can anyone tell me what happened to the once great Juggling club at
Christopher Newport University?
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Report: Stockport  (UK) Minicon
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:15:24 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Um, well, actually I missed most of the daytime events......
Stalls from the local vendors and some not-so-local, giving a chance to try 
out the new DX series balls and the weird looking new clubs from Beard.
A smallish unicycle practise area with 20 jugglers and one unicyclist in it (
well, one time I looked anyway), and a larger area for general stuff.  If 
they could have put the stalls in a 3rd room it would have been better.
Dunno if they had any proper workshops but there was a certain amount of 
informal teaching going on, and an awful lot of excellent club-passing.
A few games, nothing spectacular (while I was there).

Evening: John Lee did his Circus On A Shoestring act, loads of excellent 
stuff including a couple of magic tricks, free-standing ladder, loose-wire, 
playing a clarinet on a giraffe unicycle, juggling 3 clubs "blindfold" on a 
loose wire, juggling children (the little girl got the giggles and was very 
sweet), um, um, it doesn't sound like much here and I've forgotten a lot but 
it was really good.   Then:  Cafe Curious Eyebrows    or was that   Cafe 
Curious doing a show called Eyebrows ???  Anyway they juggled their way 
through the menu: Cheese, Bread, Red Wine, White wine.  The customer juggled 
the foodstuffs and the waiter juggled the trays and plates, and they did 
passing with the 8 wine bottles.  That was better than it sounds as well - 
and Saturday was the 1st time I've seen clubs passed from (a) between the 
teeth, (b) between the knees, (c) knee&chin grip (d) ankles [so where have I 
been all the years you've all been doing this?] Finally: Bradford & Glyn, 
For Cooking That's In - very weird, started out as mad cooks juggle cake 
ingredients (not real ones tho) and giant wooden spoons etc, but after 
juggling some plates and dropping and breaking them, and cutting themselves 
clearing the pottery shards, they ended up with no plates to serve the 'one 
I prepared earlier' on, so one of the girls was coated in chocolate sauce 
and got down into a paddling pool full of Rice Krispies and writhed about 
till well covered.....I began to think I was watching a lesbian dominance 
ritual, but maybe I'd been drinking and it was just good old slapstick..
then there was a band, but I'd run out of film and I'd had enough to drink 
so I tootled off home.  The porter/security/doorman said he preferred the 
Old Time Dancing on a Tuesday night.  They keep a reasonable pint of 
Guinness at the Co-op Banqueting Suite, btw.





  You don't have to work to be mad here      email: d.budd@mcc.ac.uk
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
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From: "Jody Lynn DeLong (DeLong,Jody L)" <DELONG@AC.GRIN.EDU>
Subject: Juggling Volleyball
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 22:55:17 cdt

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