From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: What's going on in CO, any definite news?
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:52:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov9.095234.2959
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Nov6.174639.13388@panix.com> mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
>snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
> >Call me stupid...(insert your call) but why is this county thing so 
> >important?  County lines are invisable.  Of course the metro area
> >carried the more liberal side of the Measures.  We always do.  We
> >are the saving grace of Oregon.  We lost Klamath County (surprise?).
> >We lost a county with 57702 people.  Twenty-four thousand one hundred
> >and eleven people voted in that county.  41% (9,782) voted no and 59% 
> >(14,329) voted yes.
>
>Tabulating votes according to counties shows the geographical
>pattern of an attitude in the state.

I really doubt if there would be much to attract anyone to the county of
Wheeler county, population 1,713 which is larger than the state of
Rhode Island.  Geographically we lost by a huge amount.  But we
got Most of the Coast and most of the valley which are the best parts
of Oregon unless you like the desert.  The numbers game can really
be manipulated alot and that is what agitates me.  We lost 21 out of 
36 counties, oh no!!!!!  But we one in the counties which are incountering
population growth from out of state, more white collar jobs more open
minds......

  I have no reason now to avoid
>another visit to Oregon, but I daresay I'll stay in the Portland
>area on my next visit.

Hey you got the whole coast just about, you have most of the valley and
you can even go over to Bend!!!!

  And if I were considering moving to the area
>I certainly would want to know what areas were friendly.
>
Portland by far is the most open of the cities in Oregon, but
I would  venture to say we have our fare share of hate crimes like
any major metro area.

>
>
>
>
>>Bil
>
>>>I think, but I'm not positive, that we lost 20 of the 36 counties. The
>>>big surprise county was the one around Salem, where we were expecting
>>>to win but didn't.
>
>
>>Anyone who expected Marion county to be on our side hasn't lived
>>in Oregon very long!
>
>>>
>>>Oregon is so incredibly divided on politics. You should see the map of
>>>Clinton vs. Bush, or AuCoin vs Packwood..
>
>
>>Again this map thing....How is Oregon divide?  Sure in landsize area
>>Bush and Packwood won big time!  But in reality this state 43% voted
>>Clinton, 32% voted Bush and 25% voted Perot.  The republicans before
>>the election said that Perot's jumping back in would hurt Clinton
>>more than Bush.  The vast majority of Oregonians wanted Perot out.
>>To use Mr. Rushlimbaugh's type of math, 68% of the state of Oregon
>>wanted Bush out of office.....Not to much division there.
>
>>                __
>>>nelson@reed.edu \/   Indifference, the plague that moves throughout this land
>
>
>>Bil Snodgrass III
>>Oregon is funky state.  We are real liberal in our big cities and
>>real conservative in our small towns.  It was the small towns and
>>counties of Oregon who helped us win on measure 9.  Look at 
>>the Trojan vote where we as a county voted to close down Trojan, our
>>nuclear radiation plant, but the rest of Oregon voted to keep it.  It
>>shows that we need them to help us win things and they came through
>>for us on Measure 9.  Maybe it sounds like I am switching sides 
>>of the stream on this one, but as I wrote this I started to see (hope?)
>>that we aren't as divided as we may think.  So I will work from there.
>-- 
>
>  Mara Chibnik
>  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.