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From: wiml@milton.u.washington.edu (William Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How is Obj-C project coming?
Date: 26 Dec 92 05:52:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.wiml.725349154
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington

mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu (Mark Stankus) writes:
>Some time ago, there was a news item which said that FSF was going to
>work on a objective-c compiler (whose objects were c++
>compatible) and an interface builder
>on X-windows. I have not heard anything sense.

Gcc 2.3.1 and I gather 2.3.2 support Objective-C. There are GNU projects
ongoing to 
   - build a GNU (copylefted) library of resuable objects
   - build a GNU interface builder like application
   - create an ObjC toolkit for X.

 The interface builder is still in a preliminary, planning type stage,
as far as I know. I know even less about the other two projects
(no time to subscribe to mailing lists =8( ). 

-- 
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From: peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Converting Mac PS fonts to NeXT?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:53:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.182514.3237@niftyneato.com> hal@niftyneato.com(Hal  
Fox-Palmer) writes:
..
> nonAdobe. MetroTools works great ! Would like to see more features (ala  
> Suitcase II) for grouping and installing. There is something called  
> typedrawer for Imaginet that will do that kinda stuff but its not out  
yet.
> 
> Hal-
> 
> hal@niftyneato.com

The programmer on the TypeDrawer got sidetracked shortly after Seybold  
with a non-related project and is hoping to wrap up TypeDrawer (with the  
features Hal describes) in the next couple weeks.  He started too many  
fires and is struggling to put them out.

I'll post to announce when it's of age...

Thanks,

peter
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From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla)
Subject: Re: CDRom drives/3.0 from NeXT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:26:44 GMT

dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:

>    I kinda expected when I bought this package deal from NeXT that they
>    would ship everything necessary to get the thing up and running, but
>    when my CD-Rom finally arrived I found that it did not contain a SCSI
>    cable or terminator!  Now I have to wait another few days to get the
>    proper cable.

>    Since no one has complained about it on the Net I feel as though I
>    missed something...

What you missed is that what you need "to get the thing up and running"
depends on your particular configuration. For instance, since I have an
external hard drive I don't need a terminator *and* I need a different
cable.

At least you got yours; I'm still waiting...  8-(
--
Brent Swekla
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca


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From: tlc@cx5.com
Subject: ?: FTP via e-mail to Purdue, help needed
Reply-To: tlc@cx5.com
Organization: CX5 (San Francisco)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:16:41 GMT


Apparently one can do a pseudo-FTP to the Purdue archives using e-mail. Since I  
don't have FTP capabilities, I would like to do this.

As far as I can get, is getting the help file, the index, and the index next.  
Now I have been trying to get the indexes for the separate next archives. I  
have tried every combination of command I can think of (e.g. index next  
graphics, index next/graphics, index pub/next/graphics, etc. etc.) and always  
get a "file not found" type reply.

Several requests for assistance have been sent to the archive manager over the  
past couple of months, but to no reply. Therefore I am asking, generally, for  
assistance here.

If someone can send me clear instructions on how to get an "index" to the  
contents of the various next archives at Purdue (sonata and/or nova?), and  
while you're at it maybe a note on how to then have specific files sent to me  
(pardon the ignorance, I ask in the event that what seems clearly written in  
the "help" file turns out to be not so obvious), I sure would appreciate it.

Thank You,
Thierry Castro
tlc@cx5.com
From: mikes@velo.ucr.edu (Mike Shebanek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help me find authors of BlastApp, GatorFTP, and Fred
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:38:46 GMT

Hello Netland:

I need to contact the authors of the NeXTSTEP applications "BlastApp",  
"GatorFTP", and "Fred".  Anybody know how I can reach them?

Thanks
--

Mike Shebanek
Computing and Communications
University of California, Riverside
Riverside, CA  92521

Internet	mikes@velo.ucr.edu (NeXTMail Accepted)
Phone		(909) 787-3555

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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Subject: Re: heard anything about SoftPC
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
Distribution: na,local
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:01:25 GMT

In article <BzzuJ2.Mzx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried  
Mayer-Kress) writes:
> > I asked for a price quote two weeks ago for a group discount, and they
> > told me then that all orders at that time included a free upgrade to 
> > SoftPC 3.0.  When I questioned as to 3.0 rollout, the woman told me
> > "definitely First Quarter of 1993".
> > 
> I just called Insignia and they told me the academic price for the upgrade  
from 
> 2.0 to 3.0 would be $249. I think that is a lot of money.
> I was told the shipping date is Jan 93
> --
> Gottfried Mayer-Kress

I apologize for any misunderstandings.  I meant to state that any order for  
SoftPC received now (after December 1992) will be filled with a 2.0 diskette,  
with a free upgrade to SoftPC 3.0 when it is released.  I did not mean to  
convey that all current 2.0 users get a free upgrade to 3.0.

As for the upgrade price... that is essentially what I paid for my SoftPC's
when I bought in volume last year (1991).  I agree that is high.

January 1993 is definitely 1st quarter.
--
- Geoff
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From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Re: CDRom drives/3.0 from NeXT
Reply-To: jjfeiler@relief.com
Organization: relief consulting
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:47:38 GMT

In article <dillon.0t3u@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>  
dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>     I kinda expected when I bought this package deal from NeXT that they
>     would ship everything necessary to get the thing up and running, but
>     when my CD-Rom finally arrived I found that it did not contain a SCSI
>     cable or terminator!  Now I have to wait another few days to get the
>     proper cable.
> 
>     Since no one has complained about it on the Net I feel as though I
>     missed something... were people expecting to have to buy the cabling
>     necessary to get the CD-Rom drive working as a separate item?  I was
>     expecting, it being bundled by NeXT and extremely useful (NOT!) without
>     a means to connect it to the slab, that the cabling would come with it.
> 
>     Post to the net please, this is just a casual query.
> 
> 					    -Matt

Since there are (at least) two different cables which you might possibly need  
(SCSI-2 to SCSI-1, if it is the only external SCSI device you have, or SCSI-1  
to SCSI-1, if you are daisy-chaining them) and since you may or may not need  
a terminator (my DAT is terminated internally, for instance), NeXT can't know  
what else you need.  Also, you can find cables/terminators at far better  
prices than NeXT's if you look around.

It would be nice, however, if when you placed an order (by phone at least)  
the people taking the order were prompted to say something like "are you  
going ot need a cable with that?"


> --
> 
>     Matthew Dillon		dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US
>     1005 Apollo Way		uunet.uu.net!overload!dillon
>     Incline Village, NV. 89451	ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
>     USA 			Sandel-Avery Engineering (702)831-8000
>
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  lha vs compress
Date: 23 Dec 1992 06:32:04 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu


>> In general lha offers better compression than zip. Best

Maybe zip 1.1, but not zip 1.9--it does consistently better than lha.
And is faster, as you noted.

mark
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Score files available - Bach Inventions
Date: 27 Dec 92 03:22:41 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


I have submitted the 15 two-part inventions by Bach to Sonata/Nova, in the  
file score-inventions.tar.Z.  They were created in most by Presto.  Feel  
free to copy and modify them (different voicings, etc).  If you modify  
them to something interesting, do send me a copy, eh?

I have also completed three sinfonias (three-part inventions), and will  
probably sequence more over the next couple of months.  I will make these  
available as I finish them, anon ftp fermat.dartmouth.edu.

Enjoy, and let me know what you think.

Michael Glenn
fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (NeXTMail ok)
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Sybase Package for NeXT
Date: 25 Dec 92 19:49:58 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Dec24.161023.22378@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
>In the directory /NextLibrary/Packages/ThirdParty there is a *.pkg file
>called Sybase_DB-Library.pkg.  First of all, what is this package.  The
>intaller complains about an error reading an "info" file and cannot do
>anything with the package.
>
>We would like to get Sybase and docs up and running as soon as possible.
>Is there still a runtime/limited license on the NeXT, or do we have to buy
>a license from Sybase?

I have found that this package seems to be empty on other machines that have
been upgraded to 3.0 thus causing the error.  However, it exists on the 3.0
CD-ROM, I think in the /NextCD directory.  So erase
/NextLibrary/Packages/ThirdParty to avoid future confusion (after looking
inside the package to verify that it's empty :-)

This package contains only the Sybase client library and related stuff.  To run
Sybase, a second package, Sybase_SQL_Server-limited.pkg (or the unlimited
version) must be available.  This was distributed with NeXTSTEP 1.0 with a free
upgrade to a NS 2.0 version (which works fine under 3.0).

If you don't have the server package, then you must license it from Sybase.
The limited (~5 simultaneous client-server connections maximum) version used to
sell for around $600.
-- 

Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                             Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442                                           Fax: (408)335-2515
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: Looking for someone with 3.0 beta PR2 
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:17:07 GMT

I run 3.0.

I am looking for someone who still has access to NS 3.0 beta PR2 for a test I want  
to do. Preferably located in Europe.

--Gerben
-- 
Gerben Wierda                 Tel. (+31) 35 833539
  "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there."
  From the Talmud(?), rephrased in Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".

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From: gerben@mr_ed.rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: BETA TESTERS FOR NEW (FREE) FILE DISTRIBUTION APP WANTED
Reply-To: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:11:05 GMT


BETA TESTERS FOR NEW (FREE) FILE DISTRIBUTION APP WANTED

	R&A Software is planning to release (under the GNU license) a
driver (and for NeXTSTEP also a GUI) that makes it easy to send
files/directories over the net where people have limited links, like
in the case of UUCP links. The package is called "Zend". The software
is in two parts:
	
	1. A driver that will run on any UNIX system.
	(It has been tested on SunOS, Ultrix, NeXTOS and (an old
version of) AIX)
	2. A set of GUI's (currently only NeXTSTEP is supported)

The program will provide easy transferring of files/directories
through e-mail. It is completely automated, but in order to work it
has to be installed on both sides. One needs to be root to install
(since the driver/app is setuid root).

Security has been taking into account. For instance, normally the
received files are delivered in a subdirectory of the home directory
of the receiver, but it can be configured to receive on the spool disk
(to prevent flooding the user disk). One can set limits on the size of
transfers in all directions and in both compressed size (mail size)
and real size. One can explicitely exclude or include users and
systems that are allowed to send and receive. Data is only transferred
after a check that the receiver has the program installed and will
accept the result. Etc.

Since the program is setuid root, more people should have a look at it
before it goes out, since I don't want any security leak the moment
the app is distributed officially.

The app/driver is software under the GNU license and comes of course
with the sources. The NeXTSTEP GUI plus a NeXT specific installation
((using netinfo) will be available as a separate package.

Beta testers are needed. Preferred beta sites will include
	- Other OS's (like SysV, Ultrix, SunOS etc).
	- A UUCP mail link to the internet.

Beta testers will receive the package through e-mail in
compressed/tar/uuencoded/split form.

More info:
	gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl


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From: dnp@math.mit.edu
Subject: SUBMISSION: PixelTime Beta:  clock synchronization software
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:23:29 GMT


I've placed a beta version of PixelTime on two NeXt ftp archives.  It
is a utility which allows you to set your system time and date by
calling the National Bureau of Standards atomic clock via a Hayes
compatible modem. It is well known how badly the NeXT's clock drifts
and for stand alone machines which share development or other time
critical files, accurate time stamping is crucial. Besides, it's
always nice to

know you have the correct time and date. You can get this version of
PixelTime by ftp on sonata.cc.purdue.edu or cs.orst.edu in the
/pub/bin/submissions directory. At some point it will migrate to the
/pub/next/demos or /pub/next/binaries directory. Please kick it around
and let me know what you think. This version will expire January 1,
1993 and there's now way to avoid it by setting your clock back! I
forgot to give my hearty thanks to Eric Celeste for his vabluable
interface suggestions and for a suggestion for the application icon.
Please send any comments or suggestions to dnp@math.mit.edu


Enjoy!

Pixelated Technologies
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From: NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM (NeXTanswers Administrator)
Subject: Winter 1993 NeXTanswers on archive servers
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:08:35 GMT

The Winter 1993 release of NeXTanswers is now available on the
Internet archive servers.  NeXTanswers is a collection of answers to
commonly asked technical questions about the NeXT Computer System.
The topics covered include system administration, programming, and
NeXT applications and should be indexed for use with Digital
Librarian.

NeXTanswers can be obtained three ways: by ftp from an archive  
server, by email from Purdue, or as a subscription on floppy disk  
from NeXT (call 1-800-484-NeXT for information).  You'll want the  
latest release (in this case referred to by the 93_winter prefix).

You can obtain NeXTanswers via anonymous ftp from one of the  
following Internet archive servers (it may be found on others as  
well):
       ________________________________________________________
       hostname       IP address      directory
       ________________________________________________________
       sonata.cc.purdue.edu  128.210.15.30     pub/next/docs/NeXT
       cs.orst.edu     128.193.32.1    pub/next/documents/NeXTanswers

Note that at the time of this posting, NeXTanswers may still be in  
each archive server's submissions directory.

The NeXTanswers release is also available by email from the Purdue  
archive server, for those without ftp access.  Send a message  
consisting of "help" to archive-server@cc.purdue.edu.  If the "From:"

line in your message header will not be in Internet format (e.g.  
name@site.edu), include a line like 


       path name@site.edu
or
       path wellknownsite!yoursite!yourname@uunet.uu.net
       

Note that name@site.bitnet or name@site.UUCP won't work.

There are two versions of NeXTanswers: a complete set, and a monthly  
supplement for those who already have the previous month's complete  
set.  The complete set is called 93_winter_NeXTanswers.tar.Z and  
occupies 664 Kb of disk space.  The supplement is called  
93_winter_NeXTanswers_Supplement.tar.Z, occupies 82 Kb, and contains  
files that are new or changed since the Fall 1992 release.  When the  
Winter 1993 release is installed and indexed, it occupies about 2.41  
Mb.

Each release also includes instructions on how to install and use  
NeXTanswers.  The documentation (INSTALL.rtf, README.rtf, and  
CHANGES) is included in a separate file called  
93_winter_NeXTanswers_docs.tar.Z.

The following files in the Winter 1992 release of NextAnswers are  
different from the Fall 1992 release:

NEW FILES:
appkit.860
appkit.866
appkit.870
appkit.872
appkit.874
appkit.875
appkit.877
appkit.878
appkit.880
dbkit.862
dbkit.873
dbkit.879
ixkit.863
ixkit.864
ixkit.865
mail.876
postscript.871
sysadmin.861
sysadmin.867
sysadmin.869
sysadmin.881


REVISED FILES:
appkit.760
appkit.761
appkit.816
misc.841
dbkit.844
dbkit.847
dbkit.851
dbkit.857
dbkit.858
misc.536


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From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM
Subject: Announcing NeXTWORLD Expo 1993
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:16:41 GMT

Announcing the 1993....

NeXTWORLD EXPO!!!!

What it is....

The 2nd annual gathering of the world-wide NeXT community!
	An international Developers Conference!
		An educational Users Conference!
			A NeXTSTEP product exposition!
				A global User Group Meeting!

Call 1-800-767-2336 -or- from outside North America call
(508)470-3880 for registration information.

When it is...       

      MAY 25-27, 1993,
        

Where it is...
	THE MOSCONE CENTER,
             SAN FRANCISCO.
             

What to do....
Pass the word.  Tell your user group members, colleagues, fellow
developers, and friends, to schedule this date, and stay tuned for
more information!!

Once again, call to get on the mailing list for advanced registration
and more information about the 1993 NeXTWORLD Expo....

1-800-767-2336 -or- from outside North America call 508-470-3880

Stay tuned....more to come!!


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From: Dick Phillips <rlp@rust.lanl.gov>
Subject: SUBMISSION: pCD, a Photo CD viewer
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:20:58 GMT


pCD, a Photo CD viewer, has been submitted to sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
It's in /pub/next/submissions. An excerpt from pCD.README says,

Thanks to Hadmut Danisch of the University of Karlsruhe, who
deciphered Kodak's Photo CD file format by reverse engineering, I have
been able to put together a Photo CD viewer for the NeXT.  The app
ain't perfect and there still lurks a bug or two, but I wanted get it
out to beat the Christmas rush.  In addition to my source code for the
user interface, I have included Hadmut's original software, hpcdtoppm
(v0.3).

Dick Phillips
rlp@lanl.gov


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From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: Request: info on learning NeXTStep
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:07:56 GMT

isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:


>In article <1992Dec21.213124.6153@zip.eecs.umich.edu> bagchi@oosik.sprl.umich.edu (Ranjan Bagchi) writes:
>>	Hi.  I'm interested in learning how to program NeXT apps.  I'm  
>>C-fluent (although I don't know much about Objective-C), and know  
>>X11/Xt/Motif fairly well.  Any book recommendations?  I really just
>>want a primer-type book.. the >$200 set I've seen talked about here
>>is a bit too much for me.

>The only book that covers some of the the latest NeXTSTEP version, 3.0, is
>NeXTSTEP Programming, Step One:... by Garfinkle and Mahoney (ISBN
>0-387-97884-4).

>However, I was told that it is just being published so may not be available in
>bookstores yet.  My 8 December order placed with the publisher,
>Springer-Verlag, has resulted in an invoice that states that it's "Not yet
>published" with the estimated publication date being 02/93!!  Has anyone
>received this book yet?

I picked up my copy at the local bookstore yesterday.  He got 25 copies in
2 days ago, and needless to say, they're all gone by now.
-- 
Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp.   |  "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit
       Everything is IMHO          |   operating system, programs are easier
royce@splunge.uucp  (NeXTMail OK)  |   to write and run faster, too."
or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce    |  ad for OS/2 2.0
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From: zqx@wucs1.wustl.edu (Zeqing Xia)
Subject: How to get Sybase Admin features through API?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:44:28 GMT


I have a problem when trying to use Sybase API to get admin info
such as execute sp_spaceused and sp_help <tableName>. The problem 
is that when executing the query by dbsqlexec(), the row returned
is not the same as I execute the same query from isql.

The purpose, though, is for example, to get the nams of the users
currently are logging in and send them to a scrollview, etc..

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Fred Xia (zqx@cs.wustl.edu)

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From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: Problems using gcc 2.3.3
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:11:15 GMT

So here we are...

- gcc 2.3.3 doesn't support NeXT's extensions to Objective-C which
were introduced with NeXTSTEP3.0   So you can't use gcc for any
compilation requiring the appkit; cuz it will hit things like 
``@class'' almost immediately.

- NeXT's cc++ doesn't support GNU's extension to the C++ language which
were introduced with gcc 2.x.   So you can't use cc++ for any
compilation requiring libg++; cuz it will hit things like
``#include-next stdlib.h'' almost immediately.

So if I understand things right (please correct me if I'm wrong), we
are really in bad shape.   We can't use both the latest release of
gcc/libg++ and NeXTSTEP 3.0 in the same application.

Anybody else find this distrubing?
--
Paul F. Kunz	pfkeb@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884   (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
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