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From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: low thyroid levels, but not hypothyroid
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:03:08 GMT
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In article <BONNIE.92Sep28130759@aigyptos.nmsu.edu>, bonnie@nmsu.edu
(Bonnie Hargrave) writes:
|>
|>My doctor says my thyroid levels (T2 and T3, I believe she said) are
|>low, but that the TSH level (the signal from the brain to the thyroid)
|>is normal, which means I do _not_ have a hypothyroid condition.
|>

I just got exactly the same news from my doctor.  Low level of T4, but a
normal TSH.


|>Then she explained that with true hypothyroids, the brain sends
|>excessive signals to the thyroid in an effort to stimulate it.  This
|>part makes sense to me.

Yes it does make sense.  

|>
|>But can someone explain to me why, if the brain part of me is working,
|>the thyroid gland part of me is not up to par?  My doctor seems to
|>have no knowledge of these workings -- either your thyroid produces or
|>it doesn't and no other factors affect it.  Sounds bogus to me.

But meanwhile, I still exhibit *so* many symptoms of an underactive thyroid.  


|>
|>Comments?
|>--
|>
|>		bonnie@nmsu.edu         
|>		Bonnie Hargrave        
                   
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From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: RE: chapped hands
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:09:32 GMT

In a previous article, roy.rudebusch@travel.com (Roy Rudebusch) wrote:
>Dear Friends;
> 
>Thanks!
>I wish I could e-mail each of you who answered my plea for a
>remedy for my chapped hands, (My BBS only allows so much e-mail
>traffic).
> 
>In less than a week my hands are healed.
> 
>It seems I was allergic to the rubber in my rubber gloves.
> 
>I have had this skin condition for 6 years and was beginning to cause a
>problem in my profession, (I am an aspiring professional brewer). A
>brewer has his hands in sterlilants such as: caustic acid, sodium
>hypochlorite (bleach), Iodophor (iodine).
> 
>So now I can line my gloves with cotton gloves. Yay!
> 
>Hmmm..... I wonder if anybody makes a non-hypo-allergenic rubber glove?

I'm not sure if they are the same type of gloves, but my dentist mentioned he
was allergic to the gloves he has to wear, and when I asked him about
non-hypo-allergenic rubber gloves, he said they existed, but were pretty
expensive, but that might have been based on the fact that he has to change
them very often.

Mark
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From: ulrike@gmd.de (Ulrike Bauer)
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:57:02 GMT

In <1992Sep29.194816.46491@uvmark.uucp> susan@uvmark.uucp (Susan Todhunter - (JWT)) writes:

>In article <1992Sep29.140127.10092@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>>
>>A "problem patient" is a patient who is hard to get along with. It's the
>>same scenario as a "problem customer" in a retail store, i.e. a customer
>>who complains as a matter of habit, even if his complaints have no
>>merit. It is someone who whines.
>>

>I'm not sure I understand.  Does this mean a "problem patient" is one a doctor
>doesn't like?  Do you mean by your analogy that if a doctor cannot at first     find a cause for a person's complaints, the doctor then determines the com-
>plaint has no merit and the person is a problem?

I think, the doctor has a problem then.

Ulrike
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: mitral valve prolapse and need for antibiotics?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:20:56 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Distribution: sci
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <BONNIE.92Sep28130237@aigyptos.nmsu.edu> bonnie@nmsu.edu (Bonnie Hargrave) writes:
>
>I think taking antibiotics, especially broad-spectrum type, without a
>very good reason is dangerous.  She says the prolapse problem could
>result in bacteria reaching my heart during any procedure that results
>in internal bleeding -- INCLUDING bleeding gums.
>

Well, not quite.  She meant that procedures that cause bacteria in
your blood could lead to them getting attached to your abnormal
valve and causing a problem.  Prolapsed valves are not real likely
to get these, but it's better to be safe than sorry.  Those who
have had rheumatic fever and valvular damage are much more likely
to develop endocarditis with teeth cleaning.
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From: 901371d@dragon.acadiau.ca (D.N.D)
Subject: Med school
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:16:14 GMT

 I've heard of people taking pre-med and of people getting
into med school with a degree in the Arts.
 I find those two statements contradictive.Is a pre-med program
needed to get into medicine,or could someone get in with say
an Engineering degree or computer science degree?
 I know that sounds funny,but I think a computer science degree
would and could be very helpful in the profession.
 Simple and complex algorithms could be used for many different
biological and chemical simulations.
From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David A. Nye MD)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sumatriptan
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:56:59 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <1992Oct5.125535.12651@polaris.utu.fi>, eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki) writes:
> In article <16750@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>>Still on hold in the US.  Currently available in Canada and UK
>>(usual situation of the FDA being sloooooow).
> 
> It's available here (Finland) as well, but it's somewhat expensive. One
> injection costs around $40, and for a severe attack one might have to take
> two. Insurance covers about half of it, but still. What's the price in
> Canada?

Do you have any impression about sumatriptan's efficacy and side
effect profile in comparison to dihydroergotamine, which is in
wide use here and quite a bit less expensive?  Is the inhalable
form of DHE available there?
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Chest pain
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:52:44 GMT
Organization: AI Program, University of Georgia, Athens

If I had chest pains I would want the following from my doctor:

(1) To know whether it was a heart problem.

(2) To know whether it was a serious digestive problem.

If not, I don't know how far I'd want to go trying to track down details
of muscle-and-bone problems or the like.  It would depend on how severe
the pain was.  I think Gordon's point was that the patient he mentioned
did not know whether heart problems had been ruled out.

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Beconase, Vancenase
Keywords: Corticosteroids
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:45:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct1.204515.14223
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <BvGH8n.CuD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> magdi@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Magdi N Azer) writes:
>I have heard that there are alternatives to Beconase and Vancenase.  One such
>alternative in Nasalchrone (or NasalChrome?).  Can anyone give me info on this
>and pointa me to the appropriate literature.  Thank you

Nasalcrom is a nasal preparation of cromolyn sodium, a drug which
appears to prevent mast cells from releasing their various nasties
(histamine, other autacoids) in response to exposure to allergens.

It can be quite useful, though I get the sense that more people get
relief from using a topical corticosteroid like Beconase.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: A pain in the neck
From: Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:32:33 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In recent months SO and I have both been suffering from muscular
soreness in the neck region.  It seems to vary in severity from mild to
moderate discomfort.  Some days it goes away completely.
I am wondering if it's time we had a new mattress.  A few months back
I bought a feather pillow each and I am not sure if that exacerbated
the problem.  I use two pillows.  He uses one.  
I also get soreness in the clavicle/shoulder region.  
Are we just a couple of old crocks?  (We're in our 40s)
-- 
| The floggings will continue until morale improves
| Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (Pat Churchill, Wellington, New Zealand)
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Liquid FASTING Diet
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:09:23 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>                               LIQUID FASTING DIET

Mr. McElwaine has just posted a fascinating dissertation on transmutation
of elements in rec.gardens....  Would someone please stick their head out
and see if we've got a full moon tonight????

kay klier    biology dept   uni
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson)
Subject: Re: women in science
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:24:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.134246.4342@news.columbia.edu>, stone@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Glenn Stone) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.220119.2843@cbfsb.cb.att.com> kja@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (krista.j.anderson) writes:
> >> >>                % white    % female
> >> >
> >> >>psychology         95.4        36.0
> >> >>medical            88.9        29.1
> >> >>biology            89.8        23.4
> >> >>social science     90.7        21.2
> >> >>computer sci       86.0        11.6
> >> >>chemistry          86.6        10.7
> >> >>math               88.7         8.7
> >> >>environment        91.8         8.4
> >> >>agriculture        92.8         7.7
> >> >>physics/astr       89.8         4.7
> >> >>engineering        79.1         3.1
> >> 
> 
> >
> >What the top 4 sciences have in common is that all involve working
> >with *people* either directly or as subject matter.  I can think of
> >2 things that may be going on here: 
> >
> >1. that girls/women are more often choosing/being-encouraged-in
> >fields that will help them take care of the families they
> >expect/are-expected to have  (eg. Dr. Mom)
> >
> >2. that girls/women are more often choosing/being-encouraged-in
> >fields that will make them feel they can help people
> 
> But...
> 
> 1.  Field #2 is biology, of which human biology is a small subset.  

True, of course.

> 2. Even if women do flock to human biology, the scientific training
> would be of little value in taking care of a family, certainly of less
> use than what you'd get out of a layman's guide to pediatriacs.

> 3. I know a lot of women doctors, women med students, and as a pre-med
> advisor I talk with women pre-meds a lot about the pros and cons of
> medical careers, and I've *never* heard any of them suggest that a
> reason for becoming a doctor was to take care of the family's health.
> Pediatricians don't even treat their own kids, as a general rule.  

The point I was trying to make is that the life sciences are more
consistent with the female roles that our society presents than are
the fields that deal with machines, money, power, etc.
-- 
Krista Anderson, att!ihlpf!krista
From: ilt@fen.lrdc.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Aspartame and Caffeine
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:58:22 GMT
Distribution: na

Hi,

I am looking for information about known teratogenic effects of
Aspertame and Caffeine.  I would be interested in information about
consumption of those substances either before or after conception,
including consumption by the male before conception.

Moreover, I would like to find information about how long those
substances remain in the body after one quits eating them.

If you know this information or know about particularly relevant
references, please post or send e-mail.
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: low thyroid levels, but not hypothyroid
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:35:17 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct01.024901.0902721@locus.com> yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz) writes:
>Gordon Banks writes:
>
>| Your doctor is right.  The right level of thyroid hormone varies
>| from person to person.  Your brain is a far better judge of what
>| it should be than any test.  If the TSH is normal, your brain
>| doesn't want you to make any more thyroid and therefore giving
>| you extra thyroid would be a mistake.  The thyroid does not just
>
>Surely it's possible that the hypothalmus (part of the brain) that's
>ultimately responsible for the Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) is
>capable of underproducing the hormone, isn't it?
>
>I know this is an area of controversy and I don't have an opinion
>on it myself, but is there some reason it's safe to assume that the
>TSH level is always correct?  Or is it that it's correct the great
>majority of the time?
>

Patients with primary hypothalmic failure are vanishingly rare.
Patients with tumors of the pituitary (or rarely, brain) can have
secondary failure to secrete TSH.  In this case, the TSH usually
is zip, not normal.  Recall that the poster said the TSH level is
normal.  In this case, the thyroid hormone level would plummet
quickly.  In order for there to be normal TSH and borderline T4
you'd have to have a gland that was failing at the same time the
hypothalmus (or pituitary) was diseased and incapable of responding.
An unlikely scenario, but of course not impossible.

















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From: lzuo@byron.u.washington.edu (Li Zuo)
Subject: The best way to treat Hyperthyroidism ?
Reply-To: lzuo@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:07:49 GMT


If you know the best medical method to treat a hyperthyroidism patient, please let me know. Someone said that radiotherapy(using iodine) is the best one but others have different opinions. I would like to collect information about this matter. Please give me some evidence that one specific did cure someone and had no bad effect.   Thanks for any information.
From: cebp01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Pediatric Oncology..Help Please?
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:04:01 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Greeting!

My name is Garry McDonald, I am a final year student of pharmacy at the
University of Strathclyde in Glasgow Scotland. I have embarked on a final year
thesis entitled
            "The Advancement in the Treatment of Brain Tumors In Children"

I would be very very very very greatful if anyone out there could give me some
info on pediatric oncology or direct me to some good literature of books on the
subject.

                       Cheers!

                            Gazza

                    The Phantom Pharmacist!
                    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




Garry McDonald                                         (1) 4441 552 4400
Strathclyde School of Pharmacy
University of Strathclyde
16 Richmond St.
Glasgow G2 1QX                                CEBP01 @ uk.ac.strath.vaxa
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Five Iowa hospitals charged with restricting advertising
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:34:31 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

Hospital advertising is not necessarily a good thing.  
It is good that poor hospitals go out of business, but
in my experience, the advertising does not correlate
at all with the quality of the hospital.  Often, there
is an inverse correlation.  Competition between hospitals
leads to each hospital trying to match every other in terms
of services, leading to hospitals with marginal expertise
doing procedures they shouldn't be doing, just to keep up
with the Joneses.  If the consumer was really paying out
of pocket, some advertising of "specials" might make sense,
but since third parties pay for it nowadays, hospitals aren't
the same economically as other vendors of products.

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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Excess Of Vitamin C?
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:04:42 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct1.213148.23661@news.media.mit.edu> minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes:

>
>Yes, we need to know more.  An interesting caveat: someone told me (I
>forget who) that people who took >10 grams of C per day were at risk
>of contracting scurvy if they discontinued suddenly.  The claim was
>that some symptoms, e.g., bleeding gums, could appear within a day or
>two. The idea is plausible, because there are other examples in which
>other reagents or receptors, etc., become less numerous or less
>sensitive when the substrate concentration is increased. 
>
>Anyone else hears such a thing, or is it an elegant myth?  (It is
>possible that I simply made it up.  I do that a lot, in order to try
>to improve my capacity for linear thinking.)

I've read some of your stuff, but I think I've heard the same thing
independently.  (Not in the medical literature, though).  So I don't
think you confabulated it.














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From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:14:08 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <16767@pitt.UUCP>, geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:

> The Munchausen's aren't delusional... The worst type are those who fake 
> illness in their children and get their jollies from having the children 
> undergo medical procedures.  They exist!


There is a foster parent in the SF Bay Area right now who is suspected
of doing it to her wards.  Several have died, all due to fantastically
high levels of some metal.  Potassium, I believe.

 

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman
From: tmr@cs.bham.ac.uk (Tim Read)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Tinnutus Book
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:06:26 GMT
Distribution: sci.med
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

I have had several requests for this book, so here are the details:

Tinnitus and Catarrhal Deafness
by Arthur White
pub: Thorsons 1986
ISBN: 0-7225-1305-4

I hope this is useful...

 Tim
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From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Subject: Re: Sinus Headaches
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:00:00 GMT

In article <16753@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <1992Oct01.145646.14967@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>>
>>How did your doctor determine your headaches were migraine and not sinus?
>>
>>I get headaches, around my eyes. The pain alternates from one eye to the
>>other, but usually not both eyes at the same time. I suspect it's
>>related to the sinuses that are behind the eyes. Sometimes it is
>>accompanied with nausea. I lived with it all my life.
>>
>>Can change in barometric pressure cause a sinus headache? I seem to
>>get headaches when it rains.
>
>Sinus headache is one of the most frequent misdiagnoses we see.
>The vast majority of severe headaches are migraine.  Nausea as
>an accompaniment is another tip-off that it isn't sinus.  Sinus
>pain is usually sharp and is often a pressure sensation.  Tapping
>on the sinuses should greatly exacerbate the pain.  X-rays should
>show fluid in the sinuses.  Rapid changes in pressure can cause
>sinus pain, as you would know if you have flown in a plane with
>plugged sinuses (like with a cold or hay fever).  I'd say that
>probably almost half the migraines I see have a relative who
>was being treated as a sinus headache (migraines are hereditary).
>Often getting these people off the sinutabs and onto migraine medication
>makes them very happy indeed.  See a neurologist.

It's my impression that migraines make people want to hide in dimly
lit, quiet rooms with no other people, whereas sound, light, and
company (within reason) have no effect on sinus headaches. 

Is this at all true?

Also, it doesn't take an airplane to get enough difference in air 
pressure to make a sinus headache worse--moving my head two or three 
feet vertically can be enough. 

Nancy Lebovitz
From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: RE: Prostatitis
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:18:00 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER

In a previous article, storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) wrote:
> 
>Does anybody know if there are any diseases quite similar to Prostatis as
>far as symptoms go, but will not respond to medicine intended for it?
> 
>I have been diagnosed three times now with this condition, and all three
>medicines did zip.  I will be seeing a urologist soon, but I was just wondering
>if anybody had any thoughts on the matter...
> 

	If no test showed any infection, you may have chronic Prostatis like
	I do.  Antibotics do zip.  Anti-inflamatories such as naproxyn might
	help.  I was also told to try extra zinc (30 mg).  Frequent
	ejaculation also can give relief.  And there is always Tylenol.
	I have been told the latter is very safe and can be taken for long
	periods.  (P.s. if anyone has any info to contradict this advise,
	I would be interested in hearing.)

Mark
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