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From: hoepfner@usun01.UUCP (Andreas Hoepfner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Re: Vdisk gives funny messages
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:18:37 GMT
Organization: Nixdorf Computer AG, Paderborn, Germany

In <1992Aug11.040141.19028@q8.dk> dh@q8.dk (Dan Hansen) writes:


>Hello folks.
>We are getting funny mesg from our machine (se details below),
>are there anybody out there who has had a similar experience ?

>OSx512M 5.1a-92a023 0711v MIS-12/09
>Aug  5 06:56:02 kpdm vmunix: cblkno > maxblkno, type = 3
>Aug  5 06:56:02 kpdm vmunix: vdisk16: dev=(7,16) blkno=697131 blkcnt=2 cblkno=154035 cblkcnt=1
>Aug  5 06:56:02 kpdm vmunix: vdisk16: piece=2 maxblkno=0 cmd=rb
				       ^^^^^^^
				       mirror vdisk ?
> The disk seems to be fine though.

 What kind of vdisk is this ?? Striped, concat, simple, mirror ?

 The size of a vdisk in /etc/dktab must be a multiple of 8 !
 Check this with 'dkconfig -lv /dev/vdisk16'.

 Andreas


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
From: mb@cs.tulane.edu (Mark Benard)
Subject: Pyramid 9815 system for sale
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-11929]: thoth
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:50:34 GMT

We will be taking our Pyramid 9815 out of service when the current
maintenance contract expires at the end of September.  The system performs
well, but the cost (of maintenance) is just too high for us.

We are willing to sell it as a whole or as parts.  You can contact me
by email or telephone (504-865-5840) if you are interested.

Here is the system configuration.  All of the hardware except for the Eagle
disk drive is under Pyramid maintenance through Sept  30.

    Pyramid 9815 processor, with IOP, TPE, ITP
    32 MB memory (16 MB Pyramid, 16 MB Dataram)
    NEC 2363 1.2 GB SMD-E disk
    Eagle 450 MB disk
    Cipher 9 track tape drive
    Wyse 60 console terminal (will sell only with whole system)
    software: OSx5.1, NSP, Pascal, FORTRAN, Lisp

Availability: whole system - anytime
	      parts - latter part of September
-- 
Mark Benard
Department of Computer Science     INTERNET & BITNET: mb@cs.tulane.edu
Tulane University                  USENET:   rex!mb
New Orleans, LA 70118
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
From: dave@netmgr.mmc.com (David A. Rageth)
Subject: network time applications for DCOSx
Keywords: dcosx, time
Organization: mmc
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:38:20 GMT

I am looking for either xntp, ntp, or timed for dcosx.  Unfortunately when
we upgraded from OSx to DCOSx, the functionality of xntp and timed
disappeared.  Has anyone done any work with any of these?

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From: kenj@yarra.pyramid.com.au (Ken McDonell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Re: Vdisk gives funny messages
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:49:24 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp PL, Melb., Australia

hoepfner@usun01.UUCP (Andreas Hoepfner) writes:

> The size of a vdisk in /etc/dktab must be a multiple of 8 !
> Check this with 'dkconfig -lv /dev/vdisk16'.

At the risk of picking nits, this is not strictly correct.  The rules
are more like ...

1. For stripe and mirror vdisks, all pieces must be the same size.

2. If you are using the vdisk as a raw device (e.g. for a DBMS product,
   rather than a file system), there are no more rules!

3. For a file system with a file system block size of N Kbytes (the default
   N for OSx and DC/OSx is 16), then the total vdisk size must be a multiple
   of N kbytes.

And remember that vdisk sizes in /etc/dktab are given in units of 2 Kbytes
for OSx and 512 bytes for DC/OSx.

For stripe vdisks, there is an additional performance consideration related
to how large you make the "chunks", e.g. values smaller then N Kbytes for
a file system are pretty silly.

If anyone is heavily into this sort of thing, I have a program (stripeo)
that will help choose the optimum size parameters for a striped virtual
disk to be used as a file system with a specified file system block size
(this is the hardest case).  A related program (mapblk) understands vdisk
definitions and maps block numbers from a vdisk, through nested vdisks
and down to block numbers at the physical device.

Neither program comes with warranty or support, but if you are game, drop
me a line.
-- 
Ken McDonell			  E-mail:     kenj@pyramid.com
Systems Technology Laboratory		      kenj@yarra.pyramid.com.au
Pyramid Technology Corporation	  Phone:      +61 3 521 3799
Melbourne, Australia		  Disclaimer: I speak for me alone, of course.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops


Call EduCalc. 1-800-677-7001

They have cases ranging from $19.95 to $69.95. Vynil to Leather.
They sound pretty cool, I'm ordering one for my HP95.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers
From: ronc@kentrox.uucp (Ron Christian)
Subject: Re: Atari Portfolio Package for Sale
Organization: ADC Kentrox, Portland OR
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:46:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.145557.21721@linus.mitre.org> sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>General hint to palmtop owners: If you're thinking about selling your old
>palmtop (Poqet, 95, etc.) do it NOW or you will be taking a major bath come
>December and January when the Newton is announced/out.

Ok with me.  The Poquets and 95s will be a buyer's market, then.
I read an article on the Newton, and it's exactly what I don't want
in a palmtop.  I originally got into computers so I didn't have to
write anymore.  I write wrongside-up left handed (the only way my
1950's right handed teachers knew how to teach), slowly and painfully,
and the last thing I want to do is pay extra so I can go back to that.
 
Now, maybe I'm an unusual case, or maybe, just maybe, Apple didn't do
their marketing homework.  We'll find out around the beginning of 2Q93
when the Newtons either settle down to steady growth or bomb out bigtime.

>(Whether or not I'll listen to my own advice is another question entirely)
>---Steve

Yeah.  See?

BTW, why does there seem to be so much latitude in Poquet prices?  I've seen
them for as low as $250 and as high as $700 (for basic model, no peripherals)
in the space of a few days.  Strange.


			Ron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen
From: gjditchf@plg.uwaterloo.ca (Glen Ditchfield)
Subject: Re: Pen isn't mighty?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 16:08:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.175817.27402@uwm.edu> anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) writes:
>... Handwriting is slow and painful for me too, although it's easier
>to pick up a pad of paper and write a sentence or two, I soon wish I
>had keyboard.  On the other hand, there are many times that I've wished
>for some sort of graphics input where a pen would fit in nicely.  I'd
>like to try a pocket pen machine with no physical keyboard, but with a
>soft keyboard on the display and a touch (not just pen) sensitive
>screen.

How about a chording keyboard?  I would hold the machine in my left hand,
use a pen in my right hand for drawing and gesturing, and chord in
characters with my left hand using buttons on the sides of the machine.
   The main problem is that the average consumer will run away, screaming,
at the thought of learning to chord-type.  (Traumatic memories of grade
school recorder lessons...)  So the manufacturer would have to stress
printing with the pen, which would make the added cost of chording
equipment seem pointless.

    Glen Ditchfield  gjditchfield@violet.uwaterloo.ca  Office: DC 2517
Dept. of Computer Science, U of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, N2L 3G1
		     Get a life -- before it gets you!
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Memory reallocation in HP95?
Keywords: HP95, memory, ram disk
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:05:45 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Aug16.181232.6082@midway.uchicago.edu>,
ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu (Patrick Palmer) writes:

>Is it possible to increase the allocation of memory to the ram: disk
>without backing up all user files and restoring them later?

Yes, just change the setting and reboot.

>Also, for a 1 meg HP95, how little space can one safely leave for the
>system if one does not run Lotus?

The minimum you can set the memory to in the Setup screen is 210Kb,
leaving 814Kb for disk.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Modems for the HP95
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:14:00 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

To all who are still looking for a modem for their HP95 (or other palmtop):


I just got a flier from Telebit, informing me that their QBlazer has
JUMPED IN SPEED FROM 9600 bps TO 38.4 kbps, and
DROPPED IN PRICE FROM $whatever TO US$299.

Includes the following buzzwords:
v.42, v.42bis, v.32, v.22bis, v.22, Bell 212A (duh), 103J (duh), MNP5.
9600, 4800, 2400, 1200, 300.

For more information, read Steve Kanefsky's postings in this notesgroup.

Order direct from Telebit at:

     Telebit Corporation
     1315 Chesapeake Terrace
     Sunnyvale, CA 94089-1100

     (800) 835-3248 (U.S.)
     (408) 745-3872 (FAX)

Line forms at the left, gang.


Regards
Ray Depew
Hewlett Packard Co, Fort Collins, Colorado
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: how to write .exm files for hp95
Date: 12 Aug 1992 20:59:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <1992Aug12.085117.27497@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bj608@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Williams) writes:
>
>Well, I have it from various ISV (Software Developers) who are 
>registered with HP, that the information provided to them is incomplete.
>HP is fairly selective about who they allow Developer status and who they 
>provide ISV documentation to.

True.  They blew me off when I tried to get into the ISV program.  They
sent me a letter instead that told me how to get onto Compu$erve.

>HP refuses to release the technical information in the form of a published 
>Programmers Tech Reference Manual offered for sale. So the usual hacker 
>really can't get the data he/she needs to do any serious programming. 
>This has been the source of much malcontent over on Compu$erve. 

Thanx, you just saved me the cost of joining Compu$erve.

Reading sample source code has enabled me to figure out about 1/3 of
the interface -- enough to write a simple program, but not enough
to satisfy my thirst for knowledge.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 18:25:59 EDT
From: <BACKD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95LX upgrade in Canada

HP was very accomodating when I upgraded in Canada.
Upgrade kits have been in great demand and are often on back order to
Corvalis. I phone HP and put in a request to upgrade. They placed my
name in a que and phoned when they could upgrade my HP95lx.
I sent it in on Friday and had it back on Tuesday!!!!!
They even offered to do the upgrade for me within 30 minutes, while I
waited if I dropped by the Toronto repair depost.
Now that is service!!!

Don Back
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario
Don Back
Department of Biochemistry
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario. CANADA.
From: jim@spitws117.sbil.co.uk (James Gillespie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Summary please
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:52:05 GMT
Reply-To: jim@spitws117.sbil.co.uk
Organization: Salomon Brothers International Limited

Hi everybody,

This is probably something that gets asked a million times a week, but could
some kind soul please mail me a summary of what's available in the palmtop
market at the moment?
Thanks,

Jim Gillespie ----------------------------------------------------
jim@sbil.co.uk              Salomon Brothers International Limited
+44 71 721 2672             ---------------------------------------------------
"Open your wallets and repeat after me: 'help yourself'" - Major Denis Bloodnok
Xref: sparky comp.sys.palmtops:2714 comp.sys.laptops:3209 misc.forsale.computers:30473
From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Re: Atari Portfolio Package for Sale
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:04:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org's message of 19 Aug 92 14:55:57 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Aug 92 14:55:57 GMT, sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) said:
[...]

Stephen> General hint to palmtop owners: If you're thinking about
Stephen> selling your old palmtop (Poqet, 95, etc.) do it NOW or you
Stephen> will be taking a major bath come December and January when
Stephen> the Newton is announced/out.

The Newton addresses a very different market than those of the HP95
and Poqet. One very obvious reason is the keyboard. Since the Newton
won't come with a keyboard, if you have to enter long strings of text,
you will be very frustrated.

For the Poqet owner trying to sell their machine, I would say do it
NOW - as more and more people get a chance to try out the Sharp
PC-3000 (1MB ram) and PC-3100 (2MB ram), the Poqet will be extremely
difficult to get rid of. Of course, couple months down the road, Zeos
will be available (it is not shipping yet). By then, the resell value
of the Poqet will probably sink to the bottom. 

For the HP95, there is not yet competition on that market, ie.  unit
of that size.
--
Boniface Lau    (613) 592-2122 ext. 3042    Boniface_Lau@Mitel.COM
Mitel Corp.  				    
350 Legget Drive, Kanata
Ontario, Canada, K2K 1X3
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP 95LX connectivity pack
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:08:07 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

hdev@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught) writes:

>In the case of the HP48, the software (kermit) is public domain. Id this also
>the case for the software of the connectivity pack? If so, can somebody send
>it to me or give info where I can get it. If not, how can I get the pack
>without the cable.

Typical of the HP95 effort to date, the connectivity pack contains a
better solution than kermit but it is exceedingly half-assed implemented.
There are a pair of executables, dc95.exe and dcs95.exe that allow the 
95 to be mounted as a network drive on the host machine.  Then moving
files back and forth is as simple as copying files and backing 
up the machine is as simple as xcopy f:*.* /s/e.  

The implementation is half-assed because the 95 support executable is not
built into ROM, is not sysmgr compliant, takes up valuable RAM drive
space, and requires that all sysmgr applications be exited in order to run.

Hey HP.  For Revision 2 of the 95, how about letting Lotus keep their 
poor excuse for software and apply those royalties toward putting 
DRDOS in ROM  for multitasking and including an extra meg of ram.  Modify 
DRDOS and/or include utilities so that any DOS software can execute-in-place 
and can be launched sysmgr-style from an assigned key.  We could then load 
exactly those applications we want.  Why, I'd be so happy I might just
buy it instead of buying the Sharp version of the Newton if it ever comes
out.  I might even give up my plans to trade my 95 for another Sharp
Wizard - a device with vastly inferior hardware but super-vastly better
applications.

John

-- 
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From: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:18:50 PDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 Handbook

In <WARKENTI.92Aug19155612@syscad8.CAE.Mitel.Com> BJ Warkentin writes:

>All right what is the consensus on this beastie. I know it is bigger
>than a palmtop but it is smaller than a laptop (basically the same as
>2 95LXs). Is it a large palmtop or a really teeny laptop????

It's the first in a class variously called "subnotebook" or "PC
companion".

>Functionally it is a full 286 complete with a 40 Mb hard drive and an
>almost real screen (7.6" double scan CGA, 640 x 400).

Actually, it's not a 286, it's a C&T F8680 "PC on a chip"
8086-compatible.  Gateway claims "286-class speed".

>It seems to fill all of my requirements (other than cost :-) ) but I
>am wondering what the rumor mill has heard as I bet this is just the
>first of a whole slew of new "sublaptop" class of machines. What is
>happening with the Kittyhawk drive? Will the next generation HP have
>one? The way I see it, the day after I drop a bundle one whatever, the
>next generation of machines will be announced...

I've seen rumors of an HP subnotebook, and there are apparently others
coming as well.  By the end of the year, we'll probably see some of
them.  And I think the price will drop under $1000 by Christmas.

>The size factor is ok but I would be very interested in more ram (say
>8 Mb) and a VGA screen.

I suspect you won't see these features in subnotebooks since most of
them will be based on the C&T chip which has double CGA support built
in. Take a look at the Dell 320SLi which is a sub-four-pound 386SL
VGA notebook.

...Michael Graff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: ark@Office.Stanford.EDU (Arthur Keller)
Subject: Phone book too large on HP95LX
Originator: ark@Office.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:28:12 GMT


Scenario:
512K HP 95LX
over 300K allocated to system RAM
ROM date 06-05-91 (based on dates of CHKDSK file)

Phone program accepts file of 48,961 bytes but
says out of memory on file of 48,980 bytes.
File created and edited with text editor on HP 95LX.

Is this a known limitation of the HP?  There is plenty of System RAM left.

Is this problem fixed on a later version of the RAM?

Arthur Keller
Stanford University
Computer Science Dept.
ark@db.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: azilker@unixg.ubc.ca (Andreas Zilker)
Subject: HP 95LX wanted !!!
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:25:17 GMT


The headline says it all...
Either 512k or 1 MB version is fine. Serial cable would be good.
IMPORTANT: no severe scratches or dents :-)

Please make offers via e-mail

many adTHANKSvance

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Subject: Re: Memory reallocation in HP95?
Keywords: HP95, memory, ram disk
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:46:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.181232.6082@midway.uchicago.edu>, ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu (Patrick Palmer) writes:
|> Is it possible to increase the allocation of memory to the ram: disk
|> without backing up all user files and restoring them later?  The
|> manual describes the procedure for changing the allocations in a
|> simple way and then says to choose the option "reboot".  One could
|> imagine that if one only increased the allocation to ram: disk, the

You can safely change the System RAM / RAM disk partitioning in both
directions.  You will lose anything lying around System RAM (which
should be nothing, as I don't think you can change that parameter with
any applications other than Setup open).  You will _not_ lose anything
in the RAM disk: it won't let you make the RAM disk smaller than the
amount of space currently in use.

Craig

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: slansky_doug@macn15.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Software Development for NEWTON
Organization: CSG Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:22:47 GMT

Does anyone in netland have access to a software development kit for the new
Apple Newton palmtop?  If so, I would appreciate a contact where I may acquire
one for myself.  

Thanks,

Doug
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds
From: madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Malachy Devlin - SPD)
Subject: Windows for your Palmtops
Originator: madmal@newton
Keywords: windows,handhelds,palmtops
Organization: Signal Processing Division, University of Strathclyde. Glasgow
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:26:37 GMT


I have just read that Microsoft is working on a lightweight version of windows
so that it can be used on palmtops and is trying to persuade manufactors to 
produce a windows card! which reportly would need a 2Mbyte ROM.

Does this mean that a finger size mouse would need to be developed to
go with the palmtop computer and kneetop printer? :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: okuyama@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Darin Okuyama YR)
Subject: Application Cards
Keywords: battery application card hp95 lx
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:31:41 GMT

I just purchased HP's Dictionary/Thesaurus card,
as I was wondering:

  (1) Is it a good idea to leave the card
      plugged in all the time?
  (2) Does it use the 95's battery when
      it is plugged in?

The card itself does not seem to have a battery;
apparently it's a ROM (does anyone know)?

Darin Okuyama
NASA Ames Research Center

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops