HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: Tad and his "Mother"
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:29:14 GMT

In article <1gt5k8INNhj1@life.ai.mit.edu> dweinste@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Weinstein) writes:
>I think that the real "Ted Orsini" (who naturally bore an incredible
>Made-For-Television Movies), his "mother" naturally assumed that he
>was in fact her son. 
>Otherwise, why would she be *so* eager for him to regain his memory?
>Why would she press him to go to Pine Valley? I'd say that she really

Dave, I pretty much just posted the same thing so I agree with you!
And the reasons you stated are exactly why I have drawn that conclusion,
only I didn't type them so thanks for typing them and I agree! :-)

CAZ
From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: TAN: Welcome to new posters!
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:47:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: ll.1992Dec21.204738.29995
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA


This may have been posted before, but I haven't seen it arrive at our
site in over 6 hours, so I'll try again...

Greetings to more of our newest posters!  There sure are a lot of you
unlurking recently.

If you're on this list, and aren't new, please forgive me, and chalk
it up to a brain-daze.  and if you're *not* on this list, and *are* new,
keep on posting - I'm sure to notice you eventually!


erika lindsay
Chris Brandt
Stanzi Royden - welcome out of long lurkerdom!
Jennifer T. Sterling
Joel Horn
Alana
Michelle Connor
Kayt Sorhaindo
Tracy Owen
Erin Winslow
Lyn Miller
David Weinstein
Deborah Schlow

and
Michele Menard - welcome back!

-- 
Margaret D. Gibbs              "Practice random kindness and 
Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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From: johnson@ut-emx.uucp (Karen J. Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Tad and Dixie
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:30:03 GMT
Organization: U. Texas Center for Space Research

In article <1992Dec17.160505.22775@ll.mit.edu> gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs) writes:
>If he's going to be matched up with anybody soon
>I'd like it to be Dixie.  It was so much fun to watch the two of them 
>together, and I swear Dixie was smarter when she was with Tad. :-)
>Does anyone else remember the pure joy they had with one another?

Yes, I remember, Margaret, and I agree with you.  I wavered for
a while too, but I really think Tad and Dixie belong together.
I cannot WAIT to see the look on Dixie's face the first time she
sees him again -- it gives me chill bumps just thinking about it!

>OTOH, Brooke seems to me to be strongest and smartest when she's
>single.  

Agreed.

>As far as Brainless is concerned, I don't feel that he's done
>anything terrible by getting together with Dixie, but I don't
>think it was a very smart move, either.  I'm not overly-enamored
>with the character, so I'm not going to cry if Dixie dumps him
>for Tad. :-) :-)

Call me silly or whatever, but I still want Brian and Hayley to get
back together....only without the constant bickering.  They were
pretty nice to each other once upon a time, but it gets harder to
remember all the time.

>Just a humble opinion from a Dixie/Tad fan,

Me too.

Karen
-- 
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From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: That damned wedding
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:31:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:

>In article <921216093836.232a@VAX.CSUN.EDU> VECTRGSJ@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Gail Said Johnson) writes:

>sort of a "goodbye".    I would say that it would even be nicer if both
>the bride's parents would walk her down the aisle.   At my wedding all

It was very nice.  Thats what we did at my wedding.  Both my parents
escorted me and both of Gary's parents escorted him.  Its a Jewish
tradition.  Gary is Jewish and I'm not so it was particulary wonderful
for my mother - the only one who didn't expect to escort a child -
to be asked to do this.

She loved the idea and then later became really strongly attached to
it - saying things like "Of course I should escort her too. I gave
birth to her - she's just as much my child as her father's.  Why
doesn't everyone do this?"

>Anyway, I really shouldn't have said "given away" because that does 
>imply property.   I think a more appropriate term today would be 
>"Seeing the bride off."    

We said that the parents are giving the children to each other.  Not
giving them away.  It signified making the new family.

-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
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From: karinc@ssd.intel.com (Karin Coffee)
Subject: Re: AMC: Spoilers/Questions
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:18:33 GMT

In article <168CCE294.C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu> C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:
>Hi Susan -
> 
> 
>    No, you're not the only one who's not on vacation ;-((( .. but I was
>supposed to be!  My division director cancelled my vacation to Arizona to
>stay home and work on a @#&!*!(
>has been downgraded to "let's mess with this a little, but no big shakes
>or effort...."  Talk about your basic unhappy camper!  Cleveland's cold,

Oh, how rude!  (and I'm not talking about the weather!)

>wet and grey and I damn well wish I were in the Arizona dessert with
>a canteen full of iced tea and nothing better to do than take pictures!
> 
I was off last week, but now I'm back.  Sometimes I wonder whether taking
a vacation is a good idea or not.  I have triple the amount of work to do
when I get back since no one does my job when I'm gone......sigh...

It's actually fairly quiet around here this week since most everyone else
is taking this week off.

Oregon is cold and grey and threatening to snow (which is dangerous since
the natives have no clue how to drive when it's the least bit slippery).

>   Oh well....guess you gotta make a living some way or another!  Merry,
>merry and happy, happy to you!

Merry merry Ho! Ho! Ho!


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From: kjs@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (kelly.smith)
Subject: DOOL
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:50:20 GMT


Wasn't Jack sweet to let Jo hang little Abbey's ornament
this year?  I can't believe TIIC (the idiots in charge)
won't put these two in a front running story.  That's
where all the talent is.  Hell, why can't Jack get close
to his own mother?  I thought it was nice of Tom to say
how Jack has become dear to him.  For crying out loud this
is important.  Jack's character has always been second guessed
mocked, and put down and now everyone is seeing that he
has integrity, depth and a heart.  I adore Jack and merely
like Jenn.  She has her days.  BUT, she has more chemistry
with Jack than Carly has with Larry.  It's more natural.
If only they'd let Jenn drop that holier than thou attitude.
I find Jenn much easier to watch than Carly.  Every time her
face is shown, it just infuriates me.  She has not done anything
so spectacular to deserve the obvious favoritism she's getting.
She has been front running for the past three years.  I wish 
the 'errs would kill her off.  Esp. since such greats have been
let go (Kayla Julie).  What interesting women are left?  Marlena,
Classic Carrie, Jenn.  Marlena's only interesting with John,
to see Carrie we have to put up with Asstin and Billie, if Jenn
left the show, well we all know we'd never see Jack again.
I can't believe the deterioration of this show.  And guess what
folks, it started happening when Carly came on the scene.  It's
amazing how different this show has become.  Noone interactes
with anyone else anymore except Carly.  If they continue at this
pace this show will be off the air within two years.  Anyone want
to start taking bets as to how much longer this'll last?  I don't
give it more than two years.  The ratings are already in the toilet.
I think the rating are as high as the are because we, the fans,
are just too loyal.  We should all threaten to stop watching unless
they get rid of Carly.  I have decided to give this show another
two months (hopefully, Hope will return and kick Carly's ass).  If
this shit continues, off it goes.

	********Soon to be Boycotting Boysenberry********
From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Junior & Tad (was: his maven)
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:31:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
Reply-To: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpanvi.an.hp.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Alexandra Bost (alex@unx.sas.com) wrote:
: thompson@waldron.Stanford.EDU (Sharon Thompson-Schill) writes:
: 
: >While I'm here, did anyone else find it a little unbelievable that
: >Junior would say he recognized Ta/ed as the man who used to take care of
: >him.  He was only about two then -- how could he remember?  A
: >It would be much more likely for him to claim his mommy had a picture of
: >him around.
: 
: I thought this was kind of silly, too.  The picture would have been 
: a much more believable situation.

Ditto!  In fact, when Tad first encountered Jr., I thought for sure the
kid would say, "My Mommy has a picture of you!"  Also, although
originally I felt that Junior would have been too young to remember Tad,
I have pretty vivid memories from when I was 4 (that's how old Junior
would have been when Tad left, at least as calculated from his present
age - PVGD aside) and *definitely* remember my father from then! 
 
: [Say.....now THAT would be a great couple -- Mimi and Tad!  But two 
: interracial relationships on one soap?  Nah, it would never happen...]

Yup, Mimi and Tad would be cool.  I think I posted this back when we had
the thread "Couples - You Decide!" going.  It is kind of funny the way
they freed Brooke up in time for Tad to get back yet they also give us
the feeling that Dixie only has one true love and it ain't Bri-guy!
So which gal will it be, or will neither of them appeal to Ted?  I would
have to guess that with his present personality, he would go for someone
more like Brooke.  

Susan

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HP Imaging Systems       |     -- Erica Kane  
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From: joyce@deco.csd.sgi.com (Joyce Richards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB - Oops!
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:43:16 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Dec28.132811.9804@rayssd.ssd.ray.com>, d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Denise M. Boudria) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec24.154005.11513@u.washington.edu> dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias ) writes:

<stuff deleted.

|> Speaking of updates, Thursday was preempted by some local baloney and Friday
|> was a basketball game.  Did everyone get the basketball game and miss SB?
|> Could someone do a quick update for Thursday (my normal update day) and
|> another one for Friday (did you get it Vivian)?????
|> 
|> Mucho Thanks,
|> 
|> Denise

thursday's show was a take off on ghost of Xmas present and Xmas future coming to
the door.  CC is short with this bum, and then he has wild dreams where he
meets sophia (who plays a bag lady pretty well), and mason, (who plays a witty drunk 
who is without hope).  not a memorable show...

i figured we'd find out why McBabe was cracking up.  first he played a spooky guy
(all in one day this new angle of McBabe) that had overtones of "the shining".
then the next scene, he is sobbing, and kelly is comforting him.
i guess they decided to throw the audience a very small bone, and then retreat from
any potential storyline...i liked the idea of McBabe being a wacko.  especially the part
"he murdered her" from his nutsy mother...

anyway, thursday's show was a fast-forward button show.  i think i watched it in 15 minutes.
hope i didn't stomp on any recorder's toes.  

anyone out there watch "the guiding light?"
i ask because i might need to watch a soap, and i need to find a new one.
i notice the old keith timmons is moving to that show...

joyce.

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          joyce richards       PSE       
          joyce@sgi.com        Silicon Graphics, Inc.

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From: jdale@vstn1.math.uoknor.edu (JANE)
Subject: Re: AMC: Harold
Originator: usenet@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:05:00 GMT
Distribution: na
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Mathematics Computer Network, University of Oklahoma

In article <1hvg26INNjf9@nic.umass.edu>, laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Laurel Hellerstein) writes...
>The closing credits to the New Year's Eve show rolled a bit
>slower than usual and were "prettied up" for the holiday...
> 
>what struck me was the final credit indicating that Harold
>was played by a dog actor named "Pepe"....
> 
>say it ain't so!
> 

>  %%%%%%%%%%%%---------------------------------------------%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>    Laurel Hellerstein,Ph.D             Laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu
>    Manager, Housing Services           (413) 545-4638
>    Cable Network                       FAX (413) 545-2232


                        ***when they sang "Hark the Harold Angels sing"
                           I was really disappointed that Harold did
                           not come into the room.

                                      ***j.

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From: EFS6ET1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: DOOL -- Wednesday, December 23
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 25 Dec 92 01:09:32 PST

In article <6fjr=gn@lynx.unm.edu>, on 24 Dec 92 16:25:00 GMT,
vickie@carina.unm.edu (victori  hamilton) writes:

<stuff deleted>

>Is there any news on the SSH situation? and

No news.  DOOL is on their annual 2-week holiday break, so no one
is around.  They're back in the studio Jan. 4th.  SSH is in Hawaii
with husband Bill.  I think we may be planning another BlitzNBC
campaign for the week of either Jan. 4 or 11.  What do you think?
**Razzie 

>Vickie
>
>PS Great song Jeffrey!

I loved it too, Jeffrey!

>PPS Are they really planning another MPD storyline?  Bad idea.

 Let us pray that it's not true.  But from past experience,
 I think we can safely say TPTB will chose the low road...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:26:21 -0500 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: DOOL: Studio Blitz


I have been behind in reading posts and getting things done around here
so I totally missed the Spud "Dec 18 is Blitz the Studio Day".  I have
sent letters, etc. but would have liked to have been in on the "Let's
piss 'em off REAL good" stuff!

From the few posts I have read this morning, I can't tell you how proud
I am to be associated with a group like this.  The dedication and
commitment that you all have shown (I loved Beth and Linda's faxing and
phone calling sagas!) is so wonderful and Susan Seaforth Hayes is so
deserving.  

I really believe (especially during this time of hope and wonder) that
we can make a difference.  And I am ever hopeful that the Days of 1993
will be just as wonderful as the Days of old.  And with such a great
group of people that are on r.a.t.s. I have NO doubt that we can do
something to help out this cause.

To all of you - a Happy Holiday and a Wonderful, Sparkling New Year!

Liz aka The Big Banana

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From: karinc@ssd.intel.com (Karin Coffee)
Subject: Re: AMC: Brian and Dixie
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:52:45 GMT

Just wanted to say thanks for all of the supportive responses I got to my
post regarding single parenthood.  I got really hot about it when I was
writing up my post.  (as if you couldn't tell.. :-))

This whole situation between Dixie and Adam just gets to me.  The scenes
last week with Dixie explaining to Junior about the hearing and then that
he was going to have to go live with his father were really hard to watch.
I was watching in real-time too.

My situation is different, in that we have agreed to our custody 
arrangement, and are not divorced, just separated forever.  But, he is
chronically ill, and will die some time, and there have been many trips
into the hospital.  I have had to sit down with my son and explain about
Dad being sick.  He always wants to know if Dad is going to die.  Answering
that one without lying is always tricky.  Keeping tabs on how a 7-year-old
is dealing with things is difficult.  At that age, they don't have words
for how they are feeling, so verbalizing is hard.

AMC depicted it just how it happens for me.  You do what has to be done
in front of the child, and then fall apart later.  The scenes with Dixie
and Junior just kill me....although I don't think I would have FF'd through
them even if I had them on tape.  The actor playing Adam Jr. has been 
wonderful.  And, for once, the writing is truly doing justice to the
situation.


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From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Christie Clark [Carrie]
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:26:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum) writes:

>In article <Dec.30.23.10.17.1992.7278@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, Susan R. Hagan writes:

>> mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <Dec.29.12.55.37.1992.23548@gandalf.rutgers.edu> shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan) writes:
>> >>mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:

>transition from Christie's Carrie to Tracy's Carrie was too
>abrupt.  They needed more of an explanation for why she was such
>a bitch all of a sudden.

Exactly.

>     Well, I don't think I would describe Christie as stiff.
>She's always seemed sorta serene in a way to me.  She's always

Okay, maybe thats the way she always is and I'm just not used to her.

>can't see Christie's Carrie being dumb enough to hang around a
>pair of losers like the Reeds.  I'd say it'd be better to make
>them into villains and get rid of them, but I don't think they're
>bright enough to be villains--they're just losers!

I know!  Maybe after that stunt Carrie pulled at the cabin, Austin
will say that he can't trust Carrie anymore and he and Billie will
blow town.  How about that?

Then Carrie can move out of that stupid apartment and move in with
her parents - or into a dorm - Now theres a novel idea?  Why is that
when college kids want to live away from home (like Carrie) they go
out and get a minimum wage job and an apartment which sucks up all
their money instead of moving into the dorm?  Duh.

Carrie should go live in the dorm, forget Ballistix, and get her degree
in 4 years instead of 8 or 10, which is when she'll get it at the rate
she's going - if she finishes at all.

>     Ummm...you forgot...Nick and Eve are in Africa, and Steve is
>currently being held by Lawrence, and Hope's coming home to kick
>Carly's ass.   Those of us who are mentally unstable become
>highly irritated when our particular delusions areen't catered

Those are the ones that I can already easily accept - I was programming
myself to swallow the other ones.  :)

>to.  You may find yourself in possession of a tape consisting of
>6 hours of Emilio Ramirez scenes if you cross me, so be careful!

Oh God!!! Not that!!! Not the Lip-Gloss-Jerry-Curl-Demon-From-Hell!
I'll be good - I promise - just don't make me watch him again!



>> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (don't forget to shut me off when you leave)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>     Where's the off switch?  I can't find it!

Good question - I'll call technical support in the morning ...  :)



Cheers dears!  Happy DOOLing!



By the way - I missed the show on New Years Eve Day - is an update on the
way?  I was smart enough to remember to tape on New Years Day.  FAT LOT
OF GOOD IT DID ME!!!  The tape is filled with (all together now)
FOOTBALL!!!!.

Oh well.


-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
From: darmstro@acs.ucalgary.ca (Debby Armstrong)
Subject: Re: Y&R: Nikki
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 16:06:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

crobshaw@rd.hydro.on.ca (Catharine Robshaw) writes:
>What's wrong with Nikki?  She and Victoria are moaning and groaning
>over how they can't spend the holidays together.  Why can't they?
>What is Nikki afraid of?  Victor?  If she wants Victoria and Ryan over
>for the holidays, who is he to stop her?  If it was my daughter, I
>certainly wouldn't close the door on her. 

Amen Catharine!  I too find this whole weepy "I'm gonna miss you
so much" situation too unbelievable.  What mother, especially one
who is supposed to be so loving, would even think of spending the
holidays without her child?  I think the Bells have a pretty
disfunctional view of family life - when a bird leaves the nest
it can never return -- bah hum bug!

I hope all you R.A.T.S.ters have a very happy holiday!  Seasons
greetings to all!
From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL:  Major Inconsistency
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:35:57 GMT
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Dec22.220456.23174@linus.mitre.org>, kvt@willow.mitre.org writes:

> On Tuesday's show Bo says to S-D that the boat
> that they are sailing on is the very same boat
> that they set sail on when S-D was only a few
> weeks old.
> 
> Didn't the original boat explode or burn or 
> something and get a new name (after the hiddious
> one?) or is it in fact the original boat? and has
> the name changed or not?


     Was this debate ever settled?  I know the boat burned, 
but I was under the impression it was rebuilt.  I still don't
remember one way or the other if the name was changed.
> 
> Kathy T.

Rosita
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