HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yoichi@milton.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: Help with art needed
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:17:09 GMT

rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275) writes:
>> [picture with big wave]
>
>   The picture which you said sound like 'Ukiyoe' drawn by 'Katsushika
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Hokusai'. It is one of a series of pictures whose title is 
>'Fugaku 36 kei', 36 scenes of Mt.Fuji. Its title is 'Kanagawa-oki
>Namiura'.

I have some additional questions:
  1. I thought those were wood block prints (hanga), thus technically
     speaking, they were carved and printed, not drawn.
  2. What exactly is Ukiyoe?  For some reason I thought they were
     paintings of various "women of the evening" and other entertainment 
     related subjects.  Are Hokusai's and Hiroshige's Ukiyoe, too?

Thanks.
From: jp@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (J.P.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: travelling
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:51:54 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

       Does the JR pass work for the Shinkansen?  If so, this seems like a
good deal. Travelling from Tokyo to Shizuoka (In the area of Mt.Fuji) cost
about 50 dollars.
       Does anyone know if there are JR lines in Kyoto?
       Are the JR passes available at most travel agencies, or do I have to
make special arrangments?
       Thanks for the help!


--
jp@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (J.P.)
The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK -- +1 405 325 9607
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: travelling
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
	<193lthINNf7f@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:05:59 GMT

The Green Car orginates from the occupation. During the US occupation SCAP
painted some train cars green. These cars were for SCAP personnel only. After
SCAP left, the cars continued as a symbol of status. Over the years though
they've become synomous with "First Class" passage very similar to "first
class" on an airplane.

smittie
 
--
___________________________________________________________________________
GEnie, MCI, AOL:Smittie   All of these accounts except MCI will die on or
smittie@beach.csulb.edu   about Dec 31. UNIX will be forwarded for 2 weeks.
___________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: wohfuchi@splash.Princeton.EDU (Wataru Ohfuchi)
Subject: Re: Troublesome words (was Re: Mythology Gods)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:00:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.162418.6485@cs.ucla.edu> kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa) writes:

[some omitted]

>An English word "ch*nch*n" (speech, cheers!) means a "male chicken" 
>in Japanese.

  As far as I know, the word is Italian, at least originally. Once one
of my fellow students, who is from Italy, asked me the reason why she
was told, by her country men and women who were apparently wise, that
you shouldn't say the word in front of Japanese. Well, I was young. I
don't think I could possibly tell the young charming Italian lady the
truth even though I tried.
  I believe Nishimura san brought up "katsuo" [bonito] in Italian.
"Katsuo" can be a male name. I heard there was a Japanese swimmer,
Katsuo, competed for the Olympics in Rome [1960?]. You can easily
imagine he was so popular in Rome. Everytime he showed up at the pool,
Italian audience cheered him, "Katsuo! Katsuo! Katsuo!..." Oh, no...

...Wataru
-- 
  ...Wataru Ohfuchi
     Program in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, Princeton University
     w1o@gfdl.gov _or_ wohfuchi@splash.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Subject: Re: Japanese immigration
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:03:48 GMT

thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen) writes:

>In article <1650@frf.omron.co.jp> jfriedl@omron.co.jp (Jeffrey Friedl) writes:

> > Quick question about foreigners in the ``Japanese Passports'' line.
> > I've long been "under the assumption" (i.e. don't remember why I first thought
> > this) that the ``Japanese Passports'' line was also OK for those with
> > alian registration cards (i.e. returning residents).
> > 
> > My question to those that know: is it truely OK for those with alian
> > reg. cards to go into the Japanese Passports line, or are the immigration
> > officials just being nice in not sending me to the foreigner line.
> > 

>I was told it is OK. Can anybody confirm  that? Would be  nice to have
>the choice (have you?, ie. perhaps one _has to_  use the Japanese line
>as foreign resident?.  I remember the  gaijin  line was  terribly long
>last time I came and immigration took about 2 hours :-(

I was chastised once for going through the gaijin line when I already had
an alien registration card. Next time I went through the residents'
line: fast and with no problems at all. Hurrah for Japan, where everything
is easy!  :--)

-ricko
From: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hentai Mags
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:23:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 

HR. These days, you will find a lot of S&M stuff with tied & gagged OL's
HR. and the likes.  Besides the scatology videos.  Piss, shit and whips
HR. defines Japanese porno culture these days.

Yes, I noted this in a series of messages in alt.sex.movies.  There seems
to be something in the repressive nature of the Japanese culture which
sees its outlet in the equating of sex with domination.  Too bizarre for
my tastes...  Regards, Mikey
---
 . JABBER v1.2 #42 . Be suspicious of all native-born Esperanto speakers.
                                                                                                                          
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yoichi@milton.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: Tofu Sushi ?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:51:18 GMT

fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>Big hands to the intrepid Mr. Fester (pachi-pachi) :-).  Now that you've 
>>tried, it you can legitimately say to your Mom: "I've tried it and it
>>"hurls" big time, Mom".
>
>I wouldn't DARE say that to my Mom; she'd ask me why I was crazy enough to
>try it in the first place.

That reminds me.  Supposedly there was a commercial for an anti-acid
tablets which went something like: "'Tis better to have eaten and 
suffered, than not to have eaten at all". :-)
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Attractive, Wealthy Japanese Woman Sought
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:47:14 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Sep10.010157.2621@usl.edu> pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:

+>		     NOTE TO THE READER
+>
+>		The "p...(beep)" was not mine.
+>		I am not looking for exotic sex,
+>		simply honest affection and support.

     Beggars can't be choosers.

>In article <1992Sep9.221601.13318@cs.ucla.edu> kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa) writes:
>>I am sorry that I am not a Japanese woman.

+>	Perhaps you should maintain such things
+>	to the confidence of a personal psychologist
+>	rather then being so brazen as to announce them publicly.

   Poverty is an enemy to good manners.

.....
+>	For a woman is special not just
+>	for who she is, but for what she is.
+>	For if she were not a Japanese woman,
+>	she would be an ordinary American woman.
+>	And if she were not a woman to begin with,
+>	then there would surely be nothing special
+>	about her at all.

   And if she were not a human, ...? I happened to find your posting in another
group and I now know what made you write the next sentence. 

+>		Yes, and yet is it not also true
+>	that he who catches a rare and beautiful animal
+>	must care for her and appreciate her uniqueness
+>	least that precious gift be torn from his heart
+>		in punishment for his arrogance?

   Impressive. I mean I'm impressed with your nice formatting. But do you know
that this is not symmetric?

Michiaki Masuda
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: travelling
Date: 15 Sep 1992 03:39:29 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

The green car on Shinkansens is equivalent to first class seating on planes.
The seats are wider, tend to be cleaner, and is less crowded.  Last time I
rode one, there was also a fancy footrest + stocks of magazines.  Just another
status symbol in classless Japan.                              

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: mike@neopath.wa.com (Mike Rosenlof)
Subject: Re: travelling
Organization: NeoPath
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:01:56 GMT


In article <1992Sep4.230659.5806@news2.cis.umn.edu>, mbuntan@epx.cis.umn.edu writes:
>
> Could anybody help me answer these questions about
> travelling in Japan?
>
> Is it better to buy a train ticket from here?
> (I mean the type you can used for one or two weeks?)
>
Several people have followed up with "yes!" answers, but I think a better
answer is "Maybe!" The following is something I wrote about a year ago,
and may be useful now.


The Japan rail pass allows unlimited travel on all JR trains, busses,
and ferries. Note that most busses and ferries are not JR. Where
reserved seats are available, reservation charges are included in the
JR pass. It comes in 1, 2, and 3 week versions.  Last I checked, the
JR pass was just over 44,000 yen for 2 week, and I think about 2/3
that for 1 week probably about 30,000 yen.  A round trip Shinkansen
ticket from Tokyo to Osaka is about 26,000 yen, Hiroshima is 37,000
and Hakata is 42,000. That can give a general idea of some of the
distance you need to travel before the pass starts to pay off.

If you're going to use a major city as a base for lots of short or day
trips, think twice about the JR pass, in many cases private lines run
the same trip cheaper and faster than JR.

(one way fares June 1991)

Tokyo -> Odawara

JR Local        Y1420       1:25
JR Shinkansen   Y3570       0:40
Odakyuu Express Y1250       1:10    from shinjuku

Tokyo -> Nikko

Tobu express    Y1769       1:43    from asakusa
JR Local        Y2470       2:30    one transfer  from ueno


Tokyo -> Kamakura

JR Local        Y930        0:55
Odakyuu express Y660        1:53    from shinjuku, train splits once, be in
                                    the right car, transfer at fujizawa


You can find similar examples between many of the interesting places
around Kyoto, Osaka, Nara, Ise.

Also, the JR pass is not good for Tokyo or Osaka subways.

The point I'm trying to make in all of this is consider also the cost
in time or added tickets when you're evaluating if the JR pass is a
good deal for you.  And compare to the way you would most likely travel
without the pass. Nikko is a Y1769 trip, not Y2470. In my last two trips 
to Japan, it was great once,and once it would have been a bad deal.

If you can read Japanese, do what I did, and get the telephone book
sized timetable and figure out your major travels and their cost and
if you would really use JR for a particular link. If you're near even,
get the pass anyway just for convenience.

One more point to consider: If you have, say a week in Japan, arrive
on Saturday and leave the following Saturday. That's 8 days by the
reconning for the valid periods of a JR pass. Give a little thought if
you want to have the pass valid the first day or the last day of your
trip since you can't have both.

----------------------

In any case, have a good trip
mike
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living In Musashino
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:56:03 GMT

In article <523@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp>
	z91005@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp (z91005) writes:

>>Wow! That's no less than three times my rent.
>>Are you a company executive or something?
>>An average salaryman like me can never afford to pay that much.
>>If I got married, there should be absolutely nothing left after
>>paying such an extraordinary expensive rent every month,
>>
>>Note: Not oil.
>>In almost all apartment house, you can't use an oil burner.
>
>????  Is the poster Japanese?  The name sounds like he is.

I think so.

>But I can't believe any Japanese living in Japan would say this.
>Or was he brought up outside Japan and just came to this country?

I don't think so.

>Yes, you have to pay at least 170,000 yen/month for a 2LDK apartment
>in Musashino area.

I guess the bottom line is not that high.

>And
>You CAN use an "oil burner" or whatever you call.
>
>It's true landlords were unhappy with "burners" before, but it was almost
>20 years ago.

I guess they still ARE. At least the landlord of my apartment IS, and
the landlord of the place I've lived in 4 years ago WAS at that time.

>If you rent an apartment with 2 or more bedrooms, the owner won't impose 
>such a rule these days.

Probably. But such luxurious ones are exceptions.
I'm talking about average ones that an average person can afford to live.
An average person can never afford to pay 170000yen a month.
If you can, you are not average and don't even have to pay any rent.
Buy your own house!

>>A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
>>						 Daisaku Itasaka
>Yeah, it really seems so. :-)

Thank you very much. I know that. That's why I say
-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Subject: Re: Attractive, Wealthy Japanese Woman Sought
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:11:27 GMT

blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.062023.28070@usl.edu>, pssres12@ucs.usl.edu
>(Vignes Gerard M) writes:
>=> 
>=> 			     WANTED
>=> 
>=> 	Attractive,  independently  wealthy  Japanese woman
>=> 	for financial support and romance.    I am 35 years
>=> 	old, male heterosexual,   seeking companionship and
>=> 	financial support.  If you are interested and would
>=> 	like  to  learn  more  about  me,  please write to:
>=> 	Gerard Vignes,   USL PO Box 42709,   Lafayette,  LA
>=> 	70504 USA.   Please send picture.
>=> 
>=> 						Gerard
>=> 
>=> PS.	I tried sending this to Radio Japan,
>=> 	but they declined to air it.
>=> 	Does anyone know what Gajin means?

>Oh Gerard, you're such a card! Everyone knows "gaijin" is
>the Japanese word for "Cajun". Whatta guy!

Gajin is a Japanese strong liqour made from juniper berries, and
much favoured by effeminate types. By extension it has come to
mean someone whose behaviour is erratic, proclivities suspect,
and morals poor. The tradition Japanes medicine for this involves
painting the thumbs black and smearing them onto special religious
paper (kami) which the sufferer must carry at all times, sealed
in plastic & with a photograph. This is often known as a Gajin card,
and it is like a cross between a Certificate of Insanity and a
good-luck charm.

-ricko
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Need advice on Nartia to Kawasaki
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:16:13 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <190pftINN117@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu 
(Henry Robertson) writes:
=> There is a line that goes from Tokyo to Kawasaki via Yokohama.
=> The last train lines are typically 11:30 PM to 12:30AM.  

Both the Tokaido line and Keihintohoku lines go to Kawasaki Station,
and *then* go to Yokohama. The Tokaido line makes less stops, and
the last train leaving Tokyo Eki is around 11:52 PM.
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Toilet Technology
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:28:45 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <2662@aegis.or.jp> jroth@aegis.or.jp (Joel Roth) writes:

.....
>Matshushita Housing Products has developed a warm-water paperless
>toilet that requires minimal installation space and is designed to
>stay clean and hygenic.
.....
>Japanese list prices:
>
>Water main connection: 159,000
>Pump style: 154,000
.....

  From the recent issue of Science (vol. 257, p. 1343, 1992)

-------------------------------< cut here >------------------------------------

                          Indoor Plumbing Wises Up

	When Isao Karube flashed a slide portraying his vision of
	Japan's 21st-century geriatric medical care at an international
	biotechnology conference held last month in Crystal City,
	Virginia, it drew chuckles and incredulous smiles from the
	audience. The slide depicted a man at home sitting on a toilet,
	which had been rigged with health-monitoring biosensors and
	linked to a central medical diagnostic center.
	   Although Karube, a professor of bioelectronics at the Uni-
	versity of Tokyo, encouraged the mirth, he says that he, his
	colleagues, and their supporters in Japan's Ministry of Health
        and Welfare are perfectly serious. Japan's elderly population is
	expected to grow rapidly during the next century, and the 
	Ministry is counting on high technology to play a big role in
	managing the expected increase in health care needs, Karube
	says. And that could well mean fitting private bathrooms with
	a benign cousin of Big Brother.
	   "Japanese people like the idea of intelligent toilets," Karube
	said (to more chuckles). The concept is to equip them with a
	battery of biosensors that would automatically monitor urine
	and feces for certain proteins, sugar, blood, and other health
	indicators. Sensor data then could be sent by telephone to what
	Karube called "health check centers" where computers running
	medical diagnosis programs would flag any signs that might
	presage illness. A human doctor would then be dispatched to
	the home of the ailing senior citizen.
	   Karube and his colleagues claim that their vision wouldn't be
	all that costly. They have designed the biosensors so they can be
	made by processes similar to those for mass-producing micro-
	electronic components - which would make them cheap enough
	to install in millions of toilets.
	   Maybe, so. But Jerome Schultz, director of the University of
	Pittsburgh's Center for Biotechnology and Bioengineering, warns
	that most biosensor ideas end up as little more than that.
	Manufacturing and marketing difficulties, accuracy problems,
	and short sensor lifetimes can all flush a good concept away, he
	said at the conference. "The field is exploding with ideas.
	Bringing [biosensors] to the point of real, reliable, commercial
	products is the challenge." If Karube and his colleagues do that,
	they may get the last, and healthiest laugh.

---------------------------------< cut here >-----------------------------------

Michiaki Masuda
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Yo!  Need a new news group!!!!
Date: 5 Sep 1992 08:22:34 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

All this stuff on 19th century/early 20th century Japanese military history
is getting out of hand!  We need to form a new newsgroup called
soc.history.japan.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Subject: Re: Any Japanese P...(beep) Available?
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 20:39:54 GMT

pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:
: 	and yes, it was teeth, STEEL teeth.

Wow! And maybe with a sharp edge....

If Mr. Mistery, the abuser of the account knows this fact,
he never posts such a stupid article. :-)
I would like to make him understand goodness of Japanese
culture besides p...(beep).

Nobuyasu KANEKAWA

P.S. Dear Netters, I recommend you to modify original subject
     in decent manner on your following-ups.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands (CORRECTION)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:20:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.222151.25902@Csli.Stanford.EDU> I wrote:
>The "legal basis" of the Japanese claim for the Chishima (Krill) islands
>(against USSR/Russia, that is) is the treaty between Japan and USSR that
>exchanged the southern half of Karafuto (Sakhalin) with the islands
>(forgot the date: before WWII though).  Southern Sakhalin, in turn,
>was approved as Japanese territory by the Portsmouth Treaty that ended
>the Russo-Japanese War (1905).

OK, my mistake... The exchange treaty was 1875, swapping all of Sakhalin
(to Russia) with all of Krills (to Japan).  Southern Sakhalin was a later
issue.
In the 1951 San Francisco Treaty, Japan abandoned claims for the
greater part of the Krills, though, I believe, not including the
four islands.  USSR however, did not join this treaty, being at the time
of Korean War.

Further corrections/additions welcome.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: isc30339@nusunix3.nus.sg (TAN WEE KHIANG (1794121F))
Subject: Cost of Living in Japan
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:42:58 GMT

Hello,

I'm planning to go over to Japan to work for a couple of years.  As
such, I would like to know the cost of living in Japan.  When I say cost
of living, I'm not talking about living in luxury.  Can someone give me
a rather detail cost of living in Japan?  Thanks in advance.

Jesse from Singapore  ISC30339@NUSUNIX.NUS.SG
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: $10,000 REWARD!!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:39:03 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Sep10.041837.9779@usl.edu> pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:

+>		RADIO FREE LAFAYETTE IS PREPARED TO OFFER
+>		A  REWARD  OF  $10,000   FOR  INFORMATION
+>		LEADING  TO  THE  ARREST  AND  CONVICTION
+>		OF  THE  PERSON OR PERSONS  POSTING  UGLY
+>		RACIALLY OFFENSIVE MESSAGES FROM PILFERED
+>		COMPUTER ACCOUNTS.    PLEASE PROVIDE  ANY
+>		INFORMATION   YOU THINK  MAY BE  OF HELP.
+>		YOUR IDENTITY  WILL BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL.

   Which message and which account are they talking about? And when did it
happen? Without knowing that, how can we be helpful?

+>	 -----------------------------------------------------
+>	 Radio Free Lafayette is an equal opportunity employer.
+>	 -----------------------------------------------------
 
   And how can we contact them? Just curious...

Michiaki Masuda