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From: phs404g@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: help with email address
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:31:20 +1000
Organization: Monash_University,Melbourne,Victoria

Hi,
    This might seem a strange request, but at the moment I can't think of
a better way of finding an answer than to post here.

I'm after the e-mail address of a Dr/Prof. Frank Fekel, who does quite a 
lot of work in the field of active chromosphere stars. All I know at 
present is that he is at Vanderbilt University, Nashville. If anyone could
help me out with this, I'd appreciate if you could let me know (by email,
no point in posting this guy's address to the net if he doesn't know about
it!)

Thanks for anything....

          Greg.
 
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Disclaimer: The thoughts expressed above do not represent the opinions
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From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Mars Observer and the "Face"
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:53:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Oct13.165321.20322
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

> >randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) writes:
> > 
> >> Can someone at NASA post NASA's thoughts one way or another regarding the
> >> Mars Observer and the Martian "face"? 

For those interested, I caught a late night ad on one of the cable channels
a few night ago - Hoagland selling a video tape about the Martian face.
$19.95 if I remember right, but I don't have the 800 number to call!
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Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
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From: mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein)
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Visual Effects of Relativistic Speed
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:36:00 GMT
Followup-To: sci.astro
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Oct14.170643.25992@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain) writes:
>In article <rwallace.718897030@unix1.tcd.ie> rwallace@unix1.tcd.ie (russell wallace) writes:
>>What would be the visual effect of travelling very close to the speed of
>>light?
>
>See the Mr. Thomkin's (spelling?) series of books written by George Gamow. Not
>quite children's level, but fun at least at the highschool level where
>I encountered them. 

The stories have all been combined into one volume, called "Mr. Tompkins
in Paperback" by George Gamow. Besides dealing with relativistic speeds,
he also deals with quantum effects in a world where h=1, or close to it.
In this world, billiard balls spread out over space and so have a
greater chance of hitting other billiard balls on the table.  In fact,
when they stay still they shimmer with Heisenberg uncertainty.

The book is also very good if you want to turn a child onto Physics.

-- 
Michael A. Burstein
Physics Department, Boston University         mab@buphy.bu.edu
590 Commonwealth Ave.                         (617) 353-9437 (o)
Boston, MA 02215                              (617) 735-9433 (h)
From: dirks@runx.oz.au (Dirk Stoffels)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Big Bang and 3 deg Kelvin microwave radiation
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:37:51 GMT
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.

I have just heard about a some theory based on the expansion of the 
universe and the 'severe' red-shift of the billion degree temp
micro wave rediation down to the 3 deg Kelvin area of the spectrum.
Does anyone out there know anything about this theory and what are
they trying to prove, and what does it mean. As I heard this info
second hand I'm totally corn-fussed (intentional :) ). Does this
mean the universe only has 3 deg Kelvin of expansion left ??
Thanks
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From: graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (JIM GRAHAM)
Subject: Re: Meteoryite hits car in New York state
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:42:33 GMT

>In article <28666@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson) writes:
> 
>  From an AP article in the Sunday Denver Post: Michelle Knapp, 18,
>  of Peekskill, NY, heard a loud crash, Friday, that shook the windows of her
>  house. Her 1980 Chevy Malibu had suffered a hole straight through the trunk. 
>  (Repo Man?) A small crater was seen in the ground underneath. The meteorite 
>  was still "pretty hot" and was found to weigh 30 lbs and measured about 
>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  1 foot in diameter.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is this possible?

I thought most meteorites were rather dense.

Jim Graham 

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From: mmf@evolving.com (Mark Frazier)
Subject: Re: Creation science and moon dust theory
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:43:22 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
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tslage78@ursa.calvin.edu (Thomas Slager) writes:
: Sorry to even bring this up, but I go to a private college that is fairly 
: conservative religously.  I was arguing with this kid about the age of the 
: earth, saying that it was at least 4 billion years old, and he pulled this moon
: dust theory on me that there would be more dust than we found if the moon were
: as old as we think.  
: 
: I have heard of this before, but can anyone tell me the reason this theory was
: shot down?  I need to throw some reality back in his face.
: 

The big problem I see with this is that it assumes the amount of "dust"
in space to have been constant for the life of the moon, and the same as
current day. This seems like a rather obnoxious assumption, but then
again, "I'm a programmer, not an AstroNomer". So, maybe there wasn't always
lots of dust to accumulate on the surface, maybe some huge meteor collision
threw it up into space, and it settled somewhere else, maybe..... maybe
the topic is irrelevent to the basic teachings of Jesus. The only truth
which can be known is that no one can KNOW for sure.

The bible is just to vague on these kinds of things. I've heard it argued
that the word used in the orginal text didn't necesarily mean a 'literal'
day, but I've never been able to confirm that.
If your salvation was
dependent on you knowing how long ago the Earth was created, I would hope
that a just God would have spelled it out clearly for you. 

Someone with real FACTS care to comment on this?

Let the ligntning bolts begin.

MMF

These are my views, not ESI's.
From: killip@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. L.T. Killip)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: SETI spoiler?
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:37:35 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <1992Oct14.105218@IASTATE.EDU>, danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) writes:
>
>    I was talking about SETI with a colleage of mine who came up with an
> interesting hypothisis.  An advanced civilization would want to make the best
> possible use of it's communications resources.  It would therefore compress
> it's communications traffic as much as possible on costly interstellar
> channels.  Well-compressed signals are indistinguishable from noise unless you
> know the decompression algorithm; if they are different from noise, there is
> more room to compress.
>
We want to contact people out there, right? That is what SETI is about,
right? People who compress their comms so that they are indistinguishable
from noise are not letting the newcomers find them by the most obvious
route, i.e., they _don't_ want to contact us. Let's try to find the people
who _do_ want to contavt us. The ones who don't compress their signals.
Oh, they are the one's we _can_ find. That's all right then.
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From: oler@rho.uleth.ca (Cary Oler)
Subject: AURORA WATCH: Middle Latitude Auroral Activity Watch
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:36:53 GMT

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                    MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WATCH

                         ISSUED: 19:00 UT, 12 OCTOBER

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

VALID UNTIL: 19:00 UTC ON 13 OCTOBER

MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 12 - 13 OCTOBER (UT days)

POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY:  LOW TO MODERATE

EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE:  HIGH

OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES:  FAIR

AURORAL ACTIVITY MAY BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...

        NORTHERN WASHINGTON STATE TO SOUTHERN MONTANA TO SOUTH DAKOTA TO
        MINNESOTA TO WISCONSIN TO MICHIGAN TO NORTHERN NEW YORK STATE TO NEW
        HAMPSHIRE AND/OR SOUTHERN MAINE.

ACTIVITY MAY ALSO BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...

        THE U.K. TO DENMARK TO SOUTHERN SWEDEN TO SOUTHERN FINLAND TO
        NORTHERN RUSSIA TO SOUTHERN ALASKA.  SOUTHERN AUSTRALIAN AND NEW
        ZEALAND REGIONS MAY ALSO SPOT SOME WEAK ACTIVITY ON THE SOUTHERN
        HORIZON, ALTHOUGH LUNAR INTERFERENCE WILL BE HIGH.


SYNOPSIS...

     A sudden and somewhat unexpected burst of auroral activity was observed
     after approximately 08:00 UT.  Strong auroral storming was prevalent at
     times over the western half of North America north of the U.S./Canada
     border. Activity has remained moderately active.  Conditions are
     expected to be most favorable for observations over the northern
     European regions for the next six to twelve hours.  Some stabilization
     is expected before North America enters the night sector.  However, the
     northern tier of the U.S. states may still be able to sporadically
     witness some of the activity.

     Strong lunar interference will significantly hamper attempts to view
     activity, making this a rather poor opportunity to observe aurorae.

     This WATCH will remain active until 19:00 UT on 13 October when it
     will either be updated or allowed to expire.


**  End of Watch  **
From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: A 100 Billion?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 11:28 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct14.170904.15372@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, njzy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (T. Joseph Lazio, Cornell University) writes...
> The above estimate can be derived by a couple of simple steps.
> The distance of the Sun from the center of the Galaxy is about 8.5 kpc
> (2.8E4 lt yrs.) and its period about the center is about 2.5E8 yrs.
> 
> Use the above two facts with Kepler's Third Law (assume that the 
> mass of the Sun is insignificant compared to that of the Galaxy) 
> and one finds that the mass of the Galaxy, interior to the solar 
> circle, is something like 1.0E11 solar masses.
> 
> Now assume that all stars are about 1 solar mass and we obtain 
> an estimate of 100 billion (1.0E11) stars.

What about Dark Matter?  If our galaxy is 90% missing mass, then you have
overestimated the number of stars by an order of magnitude by comparing
directly to the total gravitational mass of the galaxy.

-Scott
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SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		 although I have no right to say so, having
				 been a single cell so long ago myself that I 
				 have no memory at all of that stage of my 
				 life." - Lewis Thomas


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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: UFO EVIDENCE VS. Carl Sagan
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:49:01 GMT

what, no more new stuff?  Is he BACK to REPEATING the same old
CONSPIRACY stuff he post LAST week?  Come on, at least give us
something NEW to read.

How about, Einstein was a Grey planted here so we would develop
the bomb at an earlier stage than normal, thus diverting needed
technology and resources from other peaceful, more productive
projects.

Maybe I should write a book.  :)  

--
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     In the midst of his laughter and glee,   |Me, speak for Compaq?  
He had softly and suddenly vanished away---   |Yeah, right.
     For the Snark *was* a Boojum, you see.   |#include <stddisclaimer.h>
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From: chaloux@mandolin.mitre.org (Dave Chaloux)
Subject: Bright Fireball seen on North American East Coast
Reply-To: chaloux@mandolin.mitre.org (Dave Chaloux)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:50:57 GMT

I posted the following on Tuesday but it apparently either didn't get
out or got very limited distribution. It has a number of facts in it
that would stop some of the nonsense that is being posted like the
density estimates.

I was reading in bed on Friday Night, October 9th at about 7:50 p.m EDT.
Out of the corner of my eye I caught a very bright moving green glare.
I jumped out of bed and looked out the window. There was a very bright
green Fireball traveling from NW to the NNE. I would estimate that it
was only slightly less bright than the full moon and was perhaps
magnitude -11 to -13. How big it was depended upon exactly what part
you counted from but slightly smaller than the full moon is about right.
At peak elevation it was maybe 20-30 degrees above the horizon here
from just S of Washington D.C. Surprisingly, the train left by it was
fairly brief in longevity; just a few seconds. It was a Bolide with
bright orange streaks left by pieces coming off. At least one video tape
of it exists and was shown on Channel 4 news in Washington. There were
reports of it being seen as far S as North Carolina. Its speed was
relatively slow and I watched it for perhaps 5 seconds.

The Tuesday, Oct 13th issue of the Washinton Post on pg A7 mentions that
a meteorite hit a parked car in Peekskill N.Y. This is almost certainly
the same object. It is 11" by 4" by 5" and weighs about 20 pounds.
Peekskill is slightly E of N of N.Y. City and is about 400 miles N.E of
my location.

I was frankly surprised to hear they found it because I watched it
flame out above the horizon.

Some questions for those who know more about such than I do.

1) I have seen green meteors before but they are fairly rare. The ones
I have seen have always been bright. What causes the green. I know
copper has emission lines in the green but I wouldn't have thought
there would be enough copper in a meteor to cause it to give off green.
Another possibility might be that highly ionized oxygen has lines in the
green. Anybody actually know?

2) There was alot of speculation on the radio in my area that the
meteorite was part of the Draconid shower that peaked on October 8.25
UT. I find this unlikely for two reasons. A) I have heard that it is
very rare for meteor showers to produce meteorites. Almost all of the
material making up the showers is very fine. B) It doesn't seem to
match up with what I thought the path was. Can someone give me a
definitive answer on this yet?

3) Has an orbit for it been calculated yet? If so what was it?

I would appreciate any and all information about it that those in the
know might have. Thanks: Dave.
From: gmcquary@Ingres.COM (George F. McQuary)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Attaching eyepiece to telescope
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:33:22 GMT
Reply-To: gmcquary@Ingres.COM (George F. McQuary)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

I've got the tube assembled, the primary mirror mounted, and now suddenly
I'm faced with mounting the eyepiece. Richard Berry waves his hands somewhat
at using 1.25" copper tubing for holding the eyepiece, but gives no idea of
how to attach a tube at 90 degrees to a box. 

I'm using a straight rectangular box for my tube. Any ideas how to mount the
eyepiece on the side cheaply (Or better methods of making a cheap eyepiece
mount)?  Has anyone also have any ideas on how to attach stalk mounts to .25"
plywood?


--
George F. McQuary 
"He is mad, bad and dangerous to know." -Lady Caroline Lamb
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From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: Celestron SP-C80 w/acc for sale
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:52:30 GMT

Having closed a deal on an old Questar (which I've wanted since I was a
tad) my SP-C80 is now for sale.
 
This is an 80mm f/11.1 refractor on the Vixen Super Polaris mount. It comes
with a small finder, an 18mm Orthoscopic ocular and a 90 degree star diagonal.
To this I have added the "half-height pier", an extension that raises the
scope another 10" and allows you to view near azimuth without fouling the
scope in the tripod legs. This is a very good starter instrument and I've
had a lot of fun using it in the city on the moon, various planets and
some of the brighter doubles and deep-sky objects. It's in excellent to
mint condition and only about 6 months old.
 
The SP-C80 originally cost $750 and the half-height pier, $140. That's
$890 (right?) and I'm asking $700 or best offer for the package. I'm
also willing to split the tube and mount for someone who needs one but
not the other. Probably be around $150 for the tube alone, $200 with
ocular and diagonal. Mount alone with half-height pier, $500.
 
Other deals are possible. I am also quite willing to take other
instruments in whole or part trade. I'd be particularly interested
in a pair of 11x80s or a large Dobsonian light bucket or...?
 
Last: I would prefer a local sale. Shipping *is* possible, but would
require me to invest in shipping materials, and the shipping costs
and COD charges would probably be stiff.
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From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Creation science and moon dust theory
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:49:15 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <tslage78.718856765@ursa> tslage78@ursa.calvin.edu (Thomas Slager) writes:
>Sorry to even bring this up, but I go to a private college that is fairly 
>conservative religously.  I was arguing with this kid about the age of the 
>earth, saying that it was at least 4 billion years old, and he pulled this moon
>dust theory on me that there would be more dust than we found if the moon were
>as old as we think.  
>
>I have heard of this before, but can anyone tell me the reason this theory was
>shot down?  I need to throw some reality back in his face.

     Because miracles are not science.  It matters little how old 
     the moon is for the purposes of your discussion, and I wouldn't 
     even get into a debate with him on moon dust quantity since one
     could surely invent reasons why any evidence you could present
     does not conform to a self-serving notion of evidence.

     Creation of the earth 6000 years ago is not falsifiable, testable,
     verifiable etc.  So, it is not science.

                                dale bass
-- 
C. R. Bass                                           crb7q@virginia.edu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, Virginia                            (804) 924-7926
From: rclark@lpl.arizona.edu (Richard Clark x4971)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Fireball, Meteorite
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:55:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.


The recent event has got me to wondering:
What ever became of the Prairie Network made famous by the recovery
of the Lost City meteorite back around 70?

Richard Clark
rclark@lpl.arizona.edu
From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: It's the end of the world as we know it...
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:06:57
Organization: Lick Observatory/UCO
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.ucsc.edu


So, looks like the Perseids in 2126 might be
unusually spectacular (see IAUC 5636) ;-)

Anyone run Marsden's fit and checked the close
approach? What's the fractional cross-section
for collision assuming standard error and
no non-gravitational perturbations?

 - any bets on how many headlines this will
hit tomorrow?

*  Steinn Sigurdsson   			Lick Observatory      	*
*  steinly@lick.ucsc.edu		"standard disclaimer"  	*
*  The laws of gravity are very,very strict			*
*  And you're just bending them for your own benefit - B.B. 1988*
From: hdahle@diana.uio.no (H}kon Dahle)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Enhanced activity of the Draconids ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:57:47 GMT
Reply-To: hdahle@diana.uio.no (H}kon Dahle)
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Astrophysics




               Enhanced activity of the Draconids ?     
               ************************************


    The Draconids (also named the Giacobinids) is a meteor shower associated
  with the comet P/Giacobini-Zinner, which passed perihelion in april this
  year.(The comet was out of reach for visual observers during this apparition
  due to its small elongation from the sun). The Draconids have often shown
  enhanced activity associated with the returns of P/G-Z, and in some cases
  (1933 & 1946) the shower has turned into a veritable meteor storm.

    This year's peak activity will probably occur around 1992 Oct.8.25 U.T.,
  but the shower should be observed for several hours before and after this
  time. The best observing site will be western North America and the northern
  Pacific. High northern latitudes are generally favoured due to the northern
  position of the radiant (R.A.=17h28m, DEC.=+54degrees (1950.0)).

    The visual meteor count rates will be severely affected by the nearly full 
  moon, but there is always the (slim?) possibility that the 1992 Draconids
  may turn into a major storm like the 1946 Draconids and the 1966 Leonids.

    I don't think this is very likely,though,but the shower is worth keeping
  an eye on, just in case...      


  H}kon Dahle        (hdahle@astro.uio.no)   |  
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From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: SETI fiction reading suggestion
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:37:35 GMT
Organization: ucsd
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu

An interesting SETI novel I can recommend is "His Master's Voice",
by Stanislaw Lem (1968).  A message is received from space that appears
to be instructions for a machine.  An attempt is made to construct it...

It's fun to compare the above with Sagan's 1985 novel "Contact"...

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