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From: robishaw@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Gary Robishaw x5960)
Subject: Re: Routes from Fremont to Santa Clara
Keywords: Fremont, Santa Clara
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:27:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.174159.18841@cypress.com> blp@cypress.com (Bruce Prickett/PROM) writes:
>ken@claris.com (Ken Walter) asks:
>
>>I commute by car from northern Fremont (above Dunbarton Bridge) to
>>a place off Patrick Henry Drive in Santa Clara (near Great America).
>
>>Anybody know of a way to get here on bicycle that avoids East Palo Alto
>>and 237?
>
>                    I don't know about 237 past N. 1st street, but you might
>be able to take the light-rail bridge on Tasman to get over to Great America.
>
Whoa there big fella! Are you sure about this? Seems like a good way to win
more enemies for cyclists. I suppose that, with care, you'd be safe enough.
You just need to check for train traffic in both directions. That still
doesn't address the legal issues. I'm sure the transit police would take
exception to such use, and you can be sure that a concerned citizen would
notify them. Eventually, you're busted.

I agree with your assessment of the Montague - 880 interchange and your
statement that 237 is probably better. But you already gave him the best
(IMHO) alternative. Turn left from 237 onto Zanker and then right onto
Montague. I take Montague/San Thomas all the way to Pruneridge from Zanker
with no problems.

Just my $.02

Gary
-- 
Gary Robishaw          "He has a constitutional right to be not guilty."
robishaw@uranus.lrmsc.loral.com       Steven Barrucci after John Gotti's
408/432-5960                          sentencing.
Usnail -- 3151 Zanker Rd. San Jose, Ca. 95134-1928
From: cs_jh@cox.nsac.ns.ca (Dr Jeff Hoyle)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Biking in Nova Scotia Canada, Some details info
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:55:27 GMT
Organization: NS Agricultural College


     From time to time I see postings requesting information about
biking in Nova Scotia.
Probably the best time of year to come here is late August -early
October.  The roads are not as busy then and the Fall colours can
be seen in all their glory during this period.  Also you can
usually get good deals (relatively) on motel bed & breakfast prices
etc. [IMHO]
There is a really nice trip from the provincial border with New
Brunswick at Amherst, to Truro.  The route goes along the Glooscap
trail via Springhill (Anne Murray centre here if you are that way
inclined!, also a mining museum) , Parsboro.  In this area there
are lots of interesting fossils, agate, amethyst etc on the
beaches.  After that there is quite a lot of climbing but the
panoramic views are incredible.  You then go via Bass River and
Great Village (2 antique stores) to Glenholm (antique store and a
craft shop).  A short distance of the trip close to Glenholm is on
the Trans Canada Highway.  Be really careful here!!!!  You turn off
the highway at Masstown market (reasonably priced local produce,
including maple products).  This trip finishes in Truro (which is
where I live).  There are several reasonable places to stay here. 
There are also some nice side trips that you can take from here.

Approx distances:
Amherst-Springhill   20 miles;  Springhill-Parsboro  30 miles
Parsboro-Bass River  32 miles; Bass River-Great Village  10 miles
Great Village-Glenholm  2 miles; Glenholm-Truro  15 miles

     You could then ride to Halifax along route 102 (highway 60
miles) or on route 2 (old highway which is significantly longer,
prob about 90 miles, but MUCH more interesting).  Halifax is the
capital city of Nova Scotia and there are lots of interesting short
trips and things to look at here.
     You could also travel from Amherst to Truro via the Sunrise
trail.  It is very scenic too.  Travel along route 6 to
Tatamagouche then along 311 to Truro.
     If you want to find out more you should look at:
1]  The Complete Guide to Bicycling in Canada, revised edition,
1989.  Elliott Katz.  paperback CAN$12.95
Published by  Doubleday Canada Ltd, Toronto.  0-385-25220-X
2]  Bicycle Tours in Nova Scotia which is available from Bicycle
NS, Box 3010 South, Halifax, NS. Canada.  B3J  3G6.

     For tourist info, maps, accommodation etc you should contact:

NS Tourism Info Centre, 136 Commercial St., Portland, ME 04101
or NS Tourism and Culture, Box 130, Halifax, NS B3J  2M7
or Check In (free computerized reservations and travel info)
     Canada              1-800-565-0000
     Maine               1-800-492-0643
     Continental US      1-800-341-6096
     TDD (not toll free)   902-492-4833
From: v008pcqu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Patrick E Tuxbury)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Re: WANTED: organized century in Buffalo, NY area
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:13:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BtvB2M.Eq5@acsu.buffalo.edu>, richmond@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J Richmond) writes...
>My riding partner and I (Hi Greg :) ) are looking for a century in the Buffalo
>NY area.  We've been riding fairly regularly this season, and were hoping to
>top it off with a nice century.  Between our two schedules it would be best if
>it were a weekend, or failing that a Sunday.
> 
>Jim

     I second this!!!  I doubt this request will be realized however.
 				
							patrick
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From: keith@controls.ccd.harris.com (Keith Turner)
Subject: Tampa area Labor Day weekend?
Organization: Harris Controls and Composition
Distribution: fl
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:37:29 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Tampa area Labor Day weekend?
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: fl
Organization: Harris Controls and Composition
Keywords: 

I'm trying to get some miles in before a club century on Sept. 13
and just found out I'll be out of town for a long 4 day Labor
Day weekend.  This, of course, will really cut into my training
just a week before the century.

I'll be in the Tampa area (FL State Fairgounds) Sept 4-7 and
am looking for a group or club training ride that I could
join during that time.  I'm no racer.  I generally ride with
a group that does 20-30 miles at about 21 mph.  If you know
of any rides in the area at that time please contact me via E-mail.

Thanks.  Isn't rec.bicycles.* great?
-------------------------------------------------------------
keith@ccd.harris.com      (407)242-5257
Harris Controls  Melbourne, FL
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From: laura@rhumba.oit.unc.edu (Laura Fullton)
Subject: Good rides in eastern PA
Organization: UNC Department of Physics & Astronomy
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:06:59 GMT

My husband and I are going to be vacationing in Pennsylvania next week.
We'll be staying near Philly for a few days, but we don't have any other
specific plans. We may head north and drive to New York, but we haven't
decided yet. We'd like to take our hybrids and do a little back-road
or light off-road cycling, but we need suggestions for some good rides.
I wrote the Penn DOT but they told me they don't sell biking maps
anymore. Since my husband has asthma, we can't do any long rides (over
20 miles), and very hilly terrain is out for anything over 10 miles.
For the longer rides, scenic routes with lots of nice places to stop
for catching breath would be nice. 

Thanks in advance,
laura fullton
laura@rhumba.oit.unc.edu


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From: hrad@ellis.uchicago.edu (vincent peter hradil)
Subject: WANTED: rides in Chicagoland
Reply-To: hrad@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:04:43 GMT

Are there any good rides around the Chicago area?
I live in Hyde Park and have been doing most of my
riding on the Lake Shore Bike Path.  I'm looking
for rides which will be from 20 to 40 (or more)
miles round trip.  I also intend to go fast so
some of the bike trails are out.  I'm also not
averse to putting my bike in the back of my car
and driving out to the 'country'.  Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Vince
From: ecc@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Ed Cirimele)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:16:02 GMT
Subject: Sierra to the Sea '93
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides

                     SIERRA TO THE SEA '93

Sierra   to   the  Sea  is  a  scenic  and  challenging  7-day
bicycle/camping tour, from Northern California's Gold  Country
to San Francisco's Golden Gate.

It begins in the historic Mother Load Country on June 19th and
will visit our state  capitol,  Sacramento  Valley,  the  Napa
Valley,  the  Russian  River,  the  Sanoma  Coast,  and  after
crossing the Golden Gate Bridge, will finish in San  Francisco
on June 29th.

Sponsored   by   Almaden  Cycle  Touring  Club  in  San  Jose,
California. This will be the sixth year  for  this  non-profit
cross state adventure.

Approximately  425 miles long, the tour will average around 60
miles a day.  The  route  is  challenging  and  designed  with
experienced riders in mind.

The  cost is $285 and includes transportation from San Jose to
the start of the ride in Columbia and from  San  Francisco  to
San  Jose  at  the end of the tour, plus all camping fees, six
dinners and two breakfasts, sag support, gear  transportation,
a souvenir water bottle and a T-shirt.

The  tour is limited to 100 cyclists. Entries will be excepted
on a first-come, first-served basis.

        For a brochure and registration form call:
                         408/629-2852
        or write to:
                      Sierra to the Sea
                       483 Madison Drive
                  San Jose, California 95123
           1993 brochures will be mailed in January
From: cs_jh@cox.nsac.ns.ca (Dr Jeff Hoyle)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Biking in Nova Scotia - THIS ONE WORKED!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:32:42 GMT
Organization: NS Agricultural College


     From time to time I see postings requesting information about
biking in Nova Scotia.
Probably the best time of year to come here is late August -early
October.  The roads are not as busy then and the Fall colours can
be seen in all their glory during this period.  Also you can
usually get good deals (relatively) on motel bed & breakfast prices
etc. [IMHO]
There is a really nice trip from the provincial border with New
Brunswick at Amherst, to Truro.  The route goes along the Glooscap
trail via Springhill (Anne Murray centre here if you are that way
inclined!, also a mining museum) , Parsboro.  In this area there
are lots of interesting fossils, agate, amethyst etc on the
beaches.  After that there is quite a lot of climbing but the
panoramic views are incredible.  You then go via Bass River and
Great Village (2 antique stores) to Glenholm (antique store and a
craft shop).  A short distance of the trip close to Glenholm is on
the Trans Canada Highway.  Be really careful here!!!!  You turn off
the highway at Masstown market (reasonably priced local produce,
including maple products).  This trip finishes in Truro (which is
where I live).  There are several reasonable places to stay here. 
There are also some nice side trips that you can take from here.

Approx distances:
Amherst-Springhill   20 miles;  Springhill-Parsboro  30 miles
Parsboro-Bass River  32 miles; Bass River-Great Village  10 miles
Great Village-Glenholm  2 miles; Glenholm-Truro  15 miles

     You could then ride to Halifax along route 102 (highway 60
miles) or on route 2 (old highway which is significantly longer,
prob about 90 miles, but MUCH more interesting).  Halifax is the
capital city of Nova Scotia and there are lots of interesting short
trips and things to look at here.
     You could also travel from Amherst to Truro via the Sunrise
trail.  It is very scenic too.  Travel along route 6 to
Tatamagouche then along 311 to Truro.
     If you want to find out more you should look at:
1]  The Complete Guide to Bicycling in Canada, revised edition,
1989.  Elliott Katz.  paperback CAN$12.95
Published by  Doubleday Canada Ltd, Toronto.  0-385-25220-X
2]  Bicycle Tours in Nova Scotia which is available from Bicycle
NS, Box 3010 South, Halifax, NS. Canada.  B3J  3G6.

     For tourist info, maps, accommodation etc you should contact:

NS Tourism Info Centre, 136 Commercial St., Portland, ME 04101
or NS Tourism and Culture, Box 130, Halifax, NS B3J  2M7
or Check In (free computerized reservations and travel info)
     Canada              1-800-565-0000
     Maine               1-800-492-0643
     Continental US      1-800-341-6096
     TDD (not toll free)   902-492-4833
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From: bjaspan@athena.mit.edu (Barr3y Jaspan)
Subject: Suggestions & Advice for 4-day trip, mid-Oct, MA
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:01:49 GMT

I have a four day weekend in mid October (10/10-14) and would like to make a
biking trip out of it.  I live in the Boston, MA area, but I have a car so I
could drive to and from a starting point.  I and the person I hope to go with
are in fairly good but not excellent shape with old-ish but decent 10-speed
bikes.  We could easily handle 50 miles days *unloaded*, a little less
with lots of stuff, but of course we also have two months of training time
between now and then.

Any suggestions for a route, or recommendations for books to look at?

I've never taken a multi-day bike trip before.  What is the "preferred" method
of carrying stuff?  I suppose side saddle bags.  I guess I'm looking for "Here
is what you need to have a safe, fun multi-day bike trip."

Thanks!

-- 
Barry Jaspan, bjaspan@mit.edu
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From: cjw2@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher James White)
Subject: tours in the St. Louis area (approx 30+ miles)?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:26:05 GMT


I'm interested in doing some weedend cycling (30 miles or so), and am looking
for ideas for good routes.  I live in University City (due east of St. Louis),
and I do have a bike rack for my car.  Any suggestions?  

thanks, 

cj white 
cjw2@cec1.wustl.edu
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From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Subject: British rider arrested in Iraq
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 13:33:05 EDT

I heard on the news today that there are two British citizen that are
arrested in Iraq. One of them (don't remember the names) are riding on a
bike around the world. By a mistake he crossed the border between Quwait
(sp?) and Iraq. Is this correct?

If this is true, whould it help if a lot of rec.bicycles.* readers write
a letter to the Iraq's embassy (if they still got any...) and demand
that they are released?

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* I said, "I'm crazy ma, help me!"    * University of Trondheim            *
* She said, "I know how it feels son, * The Norwegian Institute of Tech.   *
* 'cause it runs in the family."      * Division of Physical Electronics   *
*       - The Who, Quadrophenia       * e-mail: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no  *
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From: warton@ssd.intel.com (Peter Warton)
Subject: Re: tours in the St. Louis area (approx 30+ miles)?
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:17:03 GMT

I just got a mountain bike and am looking for places to ride in the PNW.  I 
live in Portland, OR and I have heard a lot about Forest Park.  I'd love
to hear from netters who have taken their ATBs there.  Any other recom-
mendations for this area? Thanks in advance...


Peter Warton

_______________________________________________________________________
warton@ssd.intel.com
Please don't imagine that my lungs are large enough to speak for Intel.
From: dan@austin.asd.sgi.com (Dan Baca)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Wanted - rides around SF Bay Area
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:04:38 GMT
Organization: sgi


My wife and I recently bought mountain bikes and have found a few good
rides/trails near our home in Fremont (Niles Canyon, Shoreline Park) and
are looking for more medium-hard places to ride in SF bay area. I know
there are lots of places to ride here - any recommendations ?


	Thanx,
	Dan.


---
Dan Baca                  Silicon Graphics, Inc.		    
Image Processing            (415) 390-1032               dan@sgi.com 
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From: gtchen@glacier.berkeley.edu (George Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles
Subject: Skyline ride
Date: 2 Sep 1992 19:21:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: glacier.berkeley.edu

Quick, someone tell me where the Wednesday night Skyline ride
is leaving from tonight?  Is it Gunn High School at 6 pm?

Please email (or post to the .rides group).

Thanks

George T. Chen
gtchen@speech.sri.com

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From: toma@romulus.cray.com (Thomas Arneberg)
Subject: Re: Wanted: WA & OR Touring Info
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:02:26 CDT

In article <1992Sep3.222911.22085@leland.Stanford.EDU> sjlt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sean Lev-Tov) writes:
>
>All I can tell you about that tour is to be prepared for lots of rain.  I did
>it last year (Seattle to Eugene) and it rained for several days straight,
>complete with headwind!
>
>Sean

Wow, what season did you do it in? When we did the west coast in August
1987, it only rained one day out of 3+ weeks! (Of course, I suppose that
was in the middle of the draught...)

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From: mac4@cec1.wustl.edu (Miguel Angel Cotignola)
Subject: Mountainbike in St. Louis
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:53:12 GMT

Hello everybody;

I just got a new bike and I would like to go for a day ride.  I have some
information about where to go and how to get to this place, but I need
somebody with a car and willing to do this little trip.  So if you are the
one please call me or write me.

	Miguel
        mac4@cec1.wustl.edu
        935-2140
From: bcripe@hpcvusc (Brian E. Cripe)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Re: Wanted: WA & OR Touring Info
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:06:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Sep4.200630.20006
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

> I'm planning a 10-17 day bike camping trip to Washington and Oregon,
> and I'd like to hear from other riders.  I'll be leaving from Seattle
> on September 20.  Of the many sights--Mt. Rainier, Olympic Peninsula,
> Oregon Coast, Crater Lake, others--which should I choose?  (Mountains
> aren't a problem; I love to climb.)

I don't know about you, but part of the reason I bike tour is to get
away from masses of people.  I have been living and riding in OR and
WA for about 15 years and have found a few little-known paved roads
that are great fun.  Some examples are Elsie to Nehalem along the
Nehalem River in NW Oregon, Estacada to Detroit or Cougar Reservoir
to Oakridge in the Oregon Cascades, and the Wind River road north of
Carson in SW Washington.

	Brian Cripe


	
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From: jefu@nmt.edu (Jeff Putnam)
Subject: Fat Tire Fiesta
Organization: The Museum of Differential Geometry
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:00:04 GMT

The city of Socorro, New Mexico is hosting a "Fat Tire Fiesta" 
on Saturday, September 26, and Sunday, September 27.  

Blurb from pamphlet distributed by Chamber of Commerce:

"If you are looking for someplace new to ride, this event is for
you!  Pack your mountain bike, thorn proof tubes and camera and
give us two days.  We will show you soome of central New Mexico's 
finest mountain biking.  You will receive a Trail booklet with
25 of our favorite rides through ghost towns, old mining camps, 
and the wildlife refuge which are mapped out for year-round
touring.  You may choose from 10 guided rides or strike out
on your own.  The Socorro Fat Tire Fiesta offers rides of
varying length for every rider from novice to expert and over
terrains ranging from high desert to  high mountain. "

I dont know what they have in the book, but there is indeed some
marvelous riding around here - ranging from fast and hairy trail
riding to easy stuff on the desert.  And the scenery is beautiful
as well.

For more information call : (505) 835-0424


-- 
jefu@jupiter.nmt.edu  -- Jeff Putnam, New Mexico Tech, Socorro, NM
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always
so sure of themselves but wiser people are full of doubts." B. Russell 

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From: sjlt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sean Lev-Tov)
Subject: Re: Wanted: WA & OR Touring Info
Summary: Rain 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 22:29:11 GMT


All I can tell you about that tour is to be prepared for lots of rain.  I did
it last year (Seattle to Eugene) and it rained for several days straight,
complete with headwind!

Sean
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
From: sjlt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sean Lev-Tov)
Subject: Re: Wanted: WA & OR Touring Info
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 16:58:28 GMT

I did my WA and OR tour in August, believe it or not.  Actually, what happened
was that a large storm hit the entire North Western Sea Board.  This storm
was typical of Autumn or Winter there.  I'm lucky that it was still warm
there.

Sean

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From: mcquay@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Keith McQuay)
Subject: Wanted rides on the Outer Banks of North Carolina
Keywords: bike trips
Organization: NoBody Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:51:18 GMT

If anyone out there knows of any trips or tails to take
while visiting the Outer Banks in North Carolina, please
let me know.  I will be down there from Sept. 12 thru the
19th.  We have a bungaloo on the ocean side in an area I
believe is called South Shores.  The last time I was down
there I was in the 8th grade.  Then we only went to Kitty
Hawk.  I would greatly appreciate any information.  I
can receive mail at mcquay@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov.

                             Thanks,

                                Keith 


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