From: ken@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: TCPIP DLLs for Windows: a summary
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:50:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

In comp.os.ms-windows.misc I wrote:

>Does anyone out there know of a product which gives a TCP transport to
>Windows 3.1 apps (via a DLL hopefully) which (even more hopefully) conforms
>to the winsock protocol?

I got some replies (thanks to everyone who replied). The answer appears to be:

Yes, there are lots with DLLs. No, there are not (many) which are winsock
compliant. Briefly, the position is that Novell Workplace for DOS,
NetManage Chameleon, FTP (who sell a lot of networking stuff for PCs), and 
PC NFS V4.0, all are good products supplying DLLs. 

The details:

From leffler@vela.acs.oakland.edu:
>Netmange uses dll's.  The TCP/Ip portion appears to be pretty good.  You
>may want to test some of the other modules before implementing. (i.e.
>Their nfs doesn't do locking very well).

From andyy@vision.co.uk:
>Prices for ftp
>
>Single user:
>
>Kernel Only	kernel+utils	kernel+utils+interdrive
>
>160		330		380
>
>Site-license:
>
>People		(kernel only)	(kernel+utils)	(kernel+utils+interdrive)
>		each		each		each
>
>20-49		110		165		210
>50-99		94		132		170
>100-149	82		120		155
>150-999	69		100		130
>1000+		55		80		107

From pholditc@uk03.bull.co.uk:
>I currently use two:
>
>1) Novell LAN Workplace for DOS.
>	This is a DOS TCP-IP package which contains full support for Windows
>	( including a VxD for the comms ) and has proved to be reliable in most
>	circumstances. The LAN Workplace for DOS toolkit contains development
>	kit to build Windows apps that use sockets.
>
>2) 3com TCP with DPA.
>	This is 3coms DOS TCP-IP package. It contains no VxD so sockets
>	applications running under Windows don't in my experience coexist
>	with Windows sockets apps very happily, but the development kit does
>	contain libraries, headers etc to allow sockets apps to be written
>	under Windows.
>
>On the down side, neither package conforms to the WinSock standard.

From backman@ftp.com Tue Aug 18 12:10:32 0400 1992
>I'm duping this on to <info@ftp.com>.  There is a programmers interface
>to a number of Windows DLL's; on e of which will soon be the infamous
>WinsockAPI DLL.  As to UK price; they can do better on this mailing list..

From doc@magna.com Tue Aug 18 12:38:30 0400 1992
>Unfortunately, WinSock API is too new to find many delivering commercial
>products...  Microsoft LanManager 2.1 with MS-TCP 1.0 does, provided you
>get the wsockets.dll from their BBS...
>
>Now for general .DLL TCP support, Chameleon from Netmanage, Inc. is
>probably the most Windows oriented provider.  Others provide .DLL's for
>things like the sockets library, but the app's are all .exe's as are
>the base drivers...  FTP's PC-TCP, Sun's PC-NFS (ver 4.0), 3Com TCP 2.0,
>Beame & Whiteside's BW-NFS (recent release), *all* have .DLL based
>support for at least the sockets library.

>>   Where can I find the specs for WinSockAPI???
> 
> One location you can anonymously ftp to is vax.ftp.com; there is
> a text file, postscript version, winsockapi mail-list archive and
> other goodies in /pub/winsockapi.

From schoen@tsfsrv.mitre.org
>Yes, Novell's LAN Workplace for DOS provides a TCP/IP stack, a Windows DLL
>that you can use for your applications, and several other goodies; however,
>you need to be on a LAN running Novell Netware.  If that's not a problem,
>we`ve been using this product to develop applications for Windows.  They 
>provide a DLL called WLIBSOCK that I believe is conformant to the winsock
>protocol.

From J.Hayward@utexas.edu Wed Aug 19 18:53:14 0500 1992
>Netmanage, inc. has a product called Chameleon and Newt.  Newt is
>the developement kit, it's fully DLL (no TSRs), and supports winsock.

From steven@unipalm.co.uk Fri Aug 21 16:20:25 BST 1992
>FTP's PC/TCP includes VXD and .DLLs that work fine in Windows 3.1. You still
>have to load a DOS Kernel but this takes up 40k + EMS. The 2.1 Dev Kit will
>have the full Winsock API in it. Any changes necessary to bring the 2.1 DLLs
>now shipping into line with this will be a free upgrade.

From barrett@scr601.sinet.slb.com Mon Aug 24 14:08:41 1992
>I think I FTP software's TCP/IP for PC has a DLL that can be used to hook into 
>from Win3.1

From: lrh@ftp.com  (Leonard Heinrich)
>For full information on our products includling the Dev Kit, contact our
>UK distributor:
>
>                Unipalm Ltd             44-223-420-002
>
>In the current release of the DEV Kit. Version 2.05, you can program an
>application for Windows using our Native Mode Libraries and FTP's 
>PCTCPAPI.DLL.  If you desire to use an interface to sockets, then our upcoming
>2.1 Dev Kit (going to Beta next month), will offer WINSOCK.API which is a
>Windows sockets interface.

From jsl@netmanage.com Mon Aug 31 13:19:57 PDT 1992
>There is another significant TCP/IP for Windows product that you may not be 
>aware of. It is called Chameleon and ChameleonNFS from NetManage of Cupertino, 
>California. Why is it different? 
>
>The Chameleon product is built with a 100% Windows DLL and provides a robust 
>implementation that is rich with utilities. 
>
>For example, in addition to the standard Telnet (peer to peer), FTP (peer to peer), 
>Mail, and Ping programs you'd expect, Chameleon also contains an IP router, a 
>domain name server and a SLIP connection; all this and Chameleon takes up only 
>6k in RAM memory--whether there is 1 session or 64! That's alot of functionality in 
>Chameleon! 
>
>Further, ChameleonNFS has all the functionality of Chameleon but also adds NFS 
>Client AND SERVER functionalities as well as LPR printing capability. 
>
>NetManage also offers a product that provides NetWare concurrency with 
>Chameleon as well. Further, we provide a sockets DLL development kit and an 
>RPC development kit. 
>
>If you get a chance, there is a ChameleonNFS product review in the August 24 
>issue of PC-User UK. You'll notice that our distributor listed there is Specif(ix) in 
>Derbys--the contact person is Phil Smith at 629-732689 (fax) or 629-732982 (tel).


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