HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Subject: Re: Does Hollywood support black racism?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:01:54 GMT
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Reply-To: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <1992Oct10.182718.16254@husc3.harvard.edu>
zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>My heart bleeds for you, Ira dearest.  To think that every man possessed of
>a greater insight than your own will be automatically taken by you to be
>your father!  You really must do something about that Electra thing of
>yours, and I don't mean the furry one you are now sitting on.

Ochevidno chto belena u vas na kampuse v bol'shem upotreblenii chem marihuana.

Oleg V
From: avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: death and feminism
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:27:35 -0400
Organization: Berkeley Software Design
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <14214.2adade35@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> vadim@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>   Bless you, my dearest! In what language do you think
>"Fuck you" could mean blessing?   Just curious.

In Hindu.

--vadim
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: world largest microchips
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:44:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <Bw2wrD.9B1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:
#Not only Russians are better in making everything, they are also first to 
#invent most of the things of the outmost importance. For example, did you
#know that X-ray (rengenovskie luchi) were invented in Russia as early as
#1466, when a peasant man Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov came home and told his wife
#"I can see through you, bitch."

  Nope. That was Ivan the Terrible. And he were talking to his 
 'boyars' -" Ja vas, blyadej, naskvoz' vizhy". 

#----Garik who never misspelles his own name.  :-).
#
#pss. This little joke happened about 13 years ago in Russia :-).  Local meat
#store "vyikinul" (was selling) korov'i mozgi (cow's brains).  People were 
#standing in two lines: cash register line and sales counter line.  After a
#rumor started to spread that "mozgi conchaut'sa", a wife at the counter line
#yells to her husband at the cashregister line "Van', slushai, esli tebe esche
#mozgi ne vyibili, pust' tebe khotyabyi yaitsa vyib'yut."
#
 !!!! :-)

 S.B.
From: nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Sokurov is NOT an asshole!
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:24:37 GMT
Organization: The Kremlin Wall of Harvard
In-reply-to: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu's message of 12 Oct 92 00:36:59 GMT

pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
> Hi!

>>... some stuff deleted
>>
>>>  And what that asshole Sokurov made out of "Billion years before Doomsday"...
>>>  This guy pretends to be something like "Tarkovsky today". But he just
>>>  doesn't have the guts. He has fears and complexes, but no power or talent.
>>>  At the presentation of "Billion years before Doomsday" I threw an orange
>>> at him. Wish it had been a 1000-ton concrete block.
>>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I wish it was, too. Then you would get "gryzha" trying to lift it, and wouldn't
>>through this kind of groundless accusations on people, and call them names.
>>I mean you might not like the way Sokurov works, but I don't see any reason to 
>>call him an asshole.

> Sure! I was incorrect and bring my apologies to Mr. Sokurov and to
> all assholes too. There was no reasons to call an asshole Sokurov,
> or Sokurov an asshole. You are right, as usual.

Here's a dilemma. If Sokurov in not an asshole, why do his
films have all the requisite qualities of any films made by an asshole?

> -- 
> Thus spake Kalmoth the Vile, Slayer of the Seven Pigs of the North.

Philip Nikolayev at nikolay@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,alt.flames
From: bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy)
Subject: Re: Does Hollywood support black racism?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 21:42:54 GMT
Organization: Be. I am.
Followup-To: alt.flames

In article <NIKOLAY.92Oct12141805@husc10.harvard.edu> nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev) writes:
>bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) writes:
>
>> Mikhail Zeleny writes.
>
>MZ
>>>Calm down now, -- there is no need to get upset just because your English
>>>is not good enough to get you into Harvard, and your disposition towards
>>>bardashery makes you choose Berkeley over a real man's school, UCLA...
>
>IB
>> And I thought, person should have some mind abilities to enter
>> Harvard, not only expensive synonym dictionary on-line. Mistake,
>> mistake.  Anyway, I've seen only one your "performance" in Russian -
>> weak, very weak.  (you know, that poor translation of departure
>> announcement).  (yes, I know, in Russian with it's complicated
>> grammar and it's hidden rhytm electronic dictionary wouldn't help
>> that much - nobody wants to sound in Russian as artifically as in
>> English).
>
>First of all, looking for poetic beauty in a 'departure announcement'
>is decidedly a sign of lunacy; basing one's judgement of another's 
>linguistic performance or ability on a 'departure announcement' is 
>another sign of lunacy. 

Are you trying to advice me to apply ordinary people rules
to green cucumber postings? I don't think Zeleny would agree.
So please save your common case wisdom for more appropriate situation.
As well as rich experience in lunacy.

>Secondly, if you have such brilliant command
>of your native Russian, why don't you post something impressive
>in Russian, rather than this pathetic, illiterate dribble?

Because I don't need that - shouldn't prove every time that I'm from Harvard,
very smart or wear hat. Relax.

>> And the last - just for your FYI - some girls are shaved, not furry
>> - the very same way as some higly educated professors from NIICHAVO
>> shaved their ears.
>
>Ha, this bloke is educating Misha about girls....I can't believe it!

Yes, close-mindedness and inability to believe own eyes are often
results of too hard studies. One more case of well described phenomena. :-)

Followup to alt.flame.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich)
Subject: Re: Sokurov is NOT an asshole!
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
	<NIKOLAY.92Oct12135213@husc10.harvard.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:47:08 GMT

In article <NIKOLAY.92Oct12135213@husc10.harvard.edu> nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev) writes:

>  bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) writes:

>  > In article <NIKOLAY.92Oct11222437@husc10.harvard.edu>
>  > nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev) writes:
>  >>
>  >>Here's a dilemma. If Sokurov in not an asshole, why do his
>  >>films have all the requisite qualities of any films made by an asshole?

>  > Where is contradiction? His films have other qualities, too.

>  > btw, what's your definition of 'a--hole' and list of requisites for
>  > qualification?

>  Pretentious, full of false importance, self-aggrandizing,
>  imitative, vague - to name a few.

Can you suggest any more constructive argument? I mean, I don't see
any of the above named qualities in any of Sokurov's films, and I am
again curious... Can you come up with examples? For example, of "false
importance"? 
Thanks in advance,

--Igor
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: galina@watson.ibm.com (Galina Kofman :-)_
Subject: Re: email advice - Moscow
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:33:47 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: galina@watson.ibm.com (Galina Kofman :-)_
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <84600015@glas.apc.org>  Patricia Schwartz <margaret@glas.apc.org> writes:
>
> How I got my computer/modem/email in Moscow in a few days:
>

Patricia, thank you very much for all your informative and interesting
posts from Moscow.  Keep posting.

Galina.
From: gorokho1@husc10.harvard.edu (Zhenya Gorokhovsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Ice T - "Cop Killer"
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:20:01 GMT
Organization: Physicists for Poetry
In-reply-to: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu's message of 10 Oct 92 02:57:29 EDT

verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:

>>IMO, you get a strange taste, mAn.

>>Yury

> Jerks like you my dear will be first against the wall when the
> revolution comes
A na stenke toi kirpich!
Vsetki tam u nih gnezdo...

> misha
zhenya
From: Patricia Schwartz <margaret@glas.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:57 MDT
Subject: Moscow weather report: The wind li
Nf-ID: #N:glas:84600003:000:1019
Nf-From: glas.UUCP!margaret    Oct 11 01:57:00 1992


Weather report for Moscow:

The wind has become a devil. She is tried of gravity so today she
made the golden autumn leaves outside my window blow UP in stead of
fall down. Is this usual for Moscow winds? Are they all so naughty?

Well, she tired of this game at noon and went out to the boulevard to
steal caps and spoil umbrellas and make the cheeks of young people
bright red, like they had suddenly fallen in love but had no
idea with whom.

At night she plays in the Metro and blows the doors open with a hot
blast of train wind, so that the entrance to the Metro station
appears to be waving at passersby, saying, "Come into my bosom,
I am warm, I'll love you and you're train will have a seat for you."

But she's a lying whore, there was no seat for me. A kind man
let me lean against his back, with no obligation to form words
of explanation or gratitude. 

Sometimes the most beautiful thing between two strangers
is that they remain strangers
and still somehow share the most precious moments
of generosity.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E)
Subject: Re: If you don't like it here.....
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:27:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.133416.69363@watson.ibm.com> oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky) writes:
>In  <92100570@tbucks.com>  root@tbucks.com (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:
>>1- About one-quarter of PhD's are awarded to non-americans, who evidently
>>come here to make use of our deficient system. This educational system is
>>good enough to turn out people capable of inventing the microchip, the
>>transistor, of setting the world standards for computer operating systems,
>>and so on.
>
>We are the best! We are great! We are doing fine. We are right on track.
>Doing fine. Super. OK! We are the best. We are great.
>
>It makes me sad that after hearing all the arguments, you could come up
>with this instead of clenching your jaws and writing to your state legislature
>or just visiting your local school.
>
>Oleg V

I'm hardly parading with slogans and blinders on, as you imply. I don't deny
there is much room for improvement in our educational system. I merely
pointed out some of our accomplishments. Why does that upset you?

Actually, we have visited a couple of the local schools lately. My wife Natalia
has given talks about Russia in several high schools.

Like so much in life, you get out of school what you put into it, so I believe
much of the responsibility for improving our children's education must depend
on the parents. Now please don't accuse me of Republican family value
sloganeering!

Timothy.
From: didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry)
Subject: Luna Park....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:32:06 GMT

I just saw "Luna Park", movie made by same director who made "Taxi Blues".
I did not like it: acting, accept for Borisov, was terrible and I did not like
message of the movie, as I percieved it.  "Luna Park" has some of the same
messages as "Taxi Blues": in the choas of x/SU can people come to some sences,
maybe by finding love/like toward each other. I think this is the main theme
of the movie, and I have nothing against it. What I don't like, and maybe
this is my jewishness speaking, is the secondary theme: a jew who serves as
the minority against who russian nationalism is aimed.

I understand that picking a jewish character is just a convinience, after all,
jews are alway in the middle of every problem/event in almost every country
in the world :-).  But, why make a jewish character so pitiful? To make 
russian nationalists feel shameful for picking on a pitiful jew?  To show
that back-boneless jews have as many problems as confused-but-very-proud
russians?  If this is directors aim (and I will take all of this back, if
someone will give me a better interpretation of this movie), then I think
this movie is just perpetuation of old anti-semitic believes.

As always, I might be wrong. If I am please show me light, and I will follow 
you. I will call you the creator of the meaning, and I will cook little 
animals for you.

---Garik.
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: death and feminism
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:47:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct13.201804.16362@husc3.harvard.edu> verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:

>>And the same about men, who would like her wifes to look after home
>>and children instead of pursuing career.

>And lick their genitalia. There are always people who want
>to oppress somebody's will and deprave others
>of self-respect. 

  Nu i mudak ty, Misha! Prosti za grubost'.
  Sounds like you understand sex as a mean to make a baby. Well, 
  *the* mean. So, (can I ask a private question?) once a week
  you are climbing on your wife and ... 2 minutes later go
  asleep? BTW, try to lick her 'genitalia' she (might be you too)
  might enjoy it.  
  Well, I guess so intelligent person can't opress a woman in
  such a shame way.
  
>Misha.

 S.B.
From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Does Hollywood support black racism?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:47:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct7.203948.4074@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> sasha@ldgo.columbia.edu (Alexander Krupitsky) writes:
>
>I'm sorry if this question isn't exactly along the lines of this
>newsgroup. 
>
>I've seen "Boys 'n' Hood" (sp?) last week.
>
>As those who saw it noticed, the father of main hero openly throws
>ridiculous accusations towards white society (liquors are produced to
>cut black people reproductive ability, guns are made for blacks to
>kill each other etc). I've read the director claimed in an interview
>that AIDS virus was produced in order to kill blacks. 
>
>Theoretically anybody can say whatever [s]he wants. In practice not
>everybody is allowed to. I am curious to learn if there was any
>examples of the opposite sort in the recent history of Holywood
>(namely - white guy making racially charged remarks WRT to blacks).
>

PC, political correctness, makes me sick. Hollywood is extremely 
politically correct, so they allow movies like "Boyz 'N Hood" and 
to go through. Besides, if you would check out "Boomerang," you would
see the same thing: Halle Berry abusing Koreans in a "simply " a joke.
Nobody ever  gets away with it, unless they are non-white.  A movie
like a "Birth of a Nation" would not make it to the theaters in today's
America.  Also, you have to look deeper into history to understand the
hostility of blacks toward whites and all that "brother" and "sister"
way of addressing each other. I think it is a consequence of the
"cultural hegemony," as Gramsci put it, that most young blacks learn from
their childhood that they have to stick together all the time. That is 
why interracial marriages of blacks and whites are looked upon as a curse
by the black community and as a sign of changing times by the white society.
In practice, the 1st amendment is interpreted by the federal courts, and
by the Supreme Court, if the matter gets there. The laws have to change with
time and their interpretation changes also, so racially offensive remarks
are not always allowed to be protected under the 1st amendment, although
they fall into that category most of the time.  
 


  
   
    
     
      
       
	       Shura.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Re: Can white men jump?
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:01:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <IGOR.92Oct12231136@krishna.cs.columbia.edu> igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich) writes:

>"Chosen people" is _primarily_ an ethnic/racial issue. You are Jewish in
>teh firs place according to your birth, and only then - according to
>your beliefs. You can become Jewish being of any race, but you can't
>give up your "Jewishhood" once you are born that way. Then, again,
>read the Tora: the G-d promised Abraham to have his _decendants_
>"Chosen People", and only later He stated the formal procedure for the
>Goim to become a part of a Jewish house. That is one of the reasons
>why a lot of Hasidic and Orthodox Jews look at those of non-Jewish
>origin as at people of the "vtoroy sort", even though it si also
>stated that once a Goim became a Jew, he has an equal part in Israel.

    Under the Israeli Law of Return, a born-Jew convert to another
    religion is NOT eligible to immigrate to Israel, while a born-non-Jew
    convert to Judaism (must go through Orthodox conversion, though) is.
    While not a rabinnical interpretation of one's Jewishness, the law
    clearly puts one's religious beliefs ahead of ethnicity.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: all opinions are mine.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au (INFIDEL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Ice T - "Cop Killer"
Date: 13 Oct 1992 11:39:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: madvax.maths.uwa.oz.au
Keywords: Revoliutsiya, Herachit', Kto, u nas - Gde ?

smir+@CS.CMU.EDU (Yury Smirnov) writes:

>In article <NIKOLAY.92Oct10203035@husc10.harvard.edu>, nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev) writes:

>|> 
>|> Ne zabyvaite, rebiata, kto u nas revoliutsiiu-to zaherachil:
>|> 
>|> >> misha
>|> > zhenya
>|> Phil

>    Eto vopros ili predlozheniye ?

>    Nature of this question comes from an old anecdote :

>    When a man came to an admission committee to be hired, he was asked:
>   "Do you wish to drink ?"
>    He replied : "Is it a question or a suggestion ?" and added :
>   "If it's a question then NO, but if a suggestion - then YES-YES-YES !".

>    Yury @ Cranberry Melon university, School of Cucumber Sciences


	Ze Chine-iz plen voz tekking off frrrom Shaghai Airport, but
	there voz noh safety demonstretion frrom nice Chine-iz Hostess.

	Passenger (me) say: "Hey, vy noh safety demonstretion frrom you
	nice Chine-iz Hostesses, hmmm ?"

	Nice Chine-iz Hostess cum to me and say: "We crash. You die."

(True story.)


janek
From: verbit@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Sexual confession (following Dm. L.)
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:02:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct16.210227.16462
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <98878@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>In article <1992Oct16.143948.16452@husc3.harvard.edu> verbit@widder.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:
>>In article <98759@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct15.135920.16416@husc3.harvard.edu>
>>>verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:

>>>>I don't want to have sex with china pig. My sexual
>>>>preference is B&D sex with male gebrils. 

>>>Why do you prefer gerbils over guinea pigs? Just curious :-)

>>Sergei my dear, how on the earth could you manage to put
>>guinea in your sphincter? It is soo big!
>>Did you train with bottles?

>Dear Gospodin Verbitsky,

>I would appreciate if you would stop your outrageous extrapolations and answer
>the question. According to your own statement, your SP is B&D w/male
>gerbils, therefore the anal insertion of the abovementioned animal is
>irrelevant to that particular type of sexual activity.

	Tovarishch Sergei! Let my Lord make my answer
open and sincere. According to my statement, I B&D adolescent
male gebrils. Aforementioned gebrils are Bonded and Disciplined
by putting in my arse. If you have problems with putting 
guinea pig in your sphincter, you can train with bottles.

P. S. Are you sure you don't want to be subscribed?

Misha.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: galina@watson.ibm.com (Galina Kofman)_
Subject: Re: Adam's Rib
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:38:49 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.11 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: galina@watson.ibm.com (Galina Kofman)_
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <1992Oct12.035535.2745@zooid.guild.org>  Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org> writes:
> Lines: 24
>
> In article <67501@cup.portal.com>, DeVoid@cup.portal.com (David - Lyall) writes:
> >>How good/bad "Adam's Rib"?
> >>
> >       Galina, I just saw "Adam's Rib" last month. To my American
> >tastes it was quite good. A 1990 Sov production. Seemed to have much
> >domestic commentary about the demoralization of late Sov society. I'm
> >sure that you're more qualified than I to judge that.
> >       It was personal, small scale. I enjoyed it.
> >       The title was disorienting as there was a Katherine Hepburn movie
> >of the same title.
> >
> >
> >\  / |  /\    |+ /\ |+  == /\ |    \\//
> > \/  | / -\   |  \/ |\  | /- \|__  //\\
> >+----------------------------------------+
> >==> J. David Lyall > DeVoid@cup.portal.com
>
>
>
>   I saw that! It was humorous, but because my previous experience with Russian
> cinema is limited to "The Overcoat" some Sergei Eisenstein movies and little
> Vera, I'm not sure if it was really good by Russian standards.
>
>                                                                     adam
Thank you very much for helping me with this $15/35miles decision.
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