HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: 8008 related to PDP-11? (was: What is so greate ...)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.101545.62137@cc.usu.edu>, ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!) writes...
>In article <1992Dec16.202505.28364@news.uiowa.edu>, jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) writes:
>> 
>> Furthermore, as someone who's programmed both Intel 8080 and PDP-11
>> machines, I've noticed that, although the instruction sets are wildly
>> different, the assembly language of the 8080 owes quite a bit to that
>> of the PDP-11.  That is, conventions for comments, labels, and white
>> space are DEC-ish.  Furthermore, when Zilog introduced their Z-80, they
> 
>If only they had managed to borrow the convention
> 
>	MOV source, destination
> 
>instead of their screwy
> 
>	MOV destination, source
> 
>I would get a lot less confused hopping between Intel and DEC processors.
>-- 
> 
>Roger Ivie                      "My God! That computer is full of Pentium!
>ivie@cc.usu.edu                  It's a wonder that you haven't been turned
>                                 into mutants!"
	If you think that is bad, consider the following excerpt of dec VAX
	macro code.
                        ----- source line counter
                       | 
generated code (hex)   v  source code              comments
--------------------- -- ----------------------    -------------------------

 0000 0001 0001  0044 33 fid:     .word  1,1,0     ;file id of index file
..
56      68   3C  0006 60         movzwl	(r8),r6	   ;Get the size of the buffer
58   04 A8   D0  0009 61 	 movl	4(r8),r8   ;get address of buffer

	Please note that source code is read from left to right, (and the
	moves go from the left operand to the right operand,) but the
	generated hex code is read from right to left. Also, line counter
	is decimal, but generated code is all hex.

	Sure is easy to debug!!!

   Frank R. Borger - Physicist    __       Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Michael Reese - Univ. of Chicago |___      Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455
  Center for Radiation Therapy   | |_) _   In the first place God made idiots.
                                   | \|_)  That was for practice. Then he made
    "Birthplace of Softball"          |_)  school boards. - Mark Twain
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: fetrow@biostat.washington.edu (David Fetrow)
Subject: Re: Apple IIGS being discontinued Dec 1992
Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:44:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.182450.1515@gallant.apple.com> cheryl@gallant.apple.com (Cheryl Lins) writes:
>In article <9212162327.54@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>
>>When the Mac ships with a real command line shell, then maybe some people
>>will look on it more favorably.
>
>Ha-ha-ha!!! You make a funny, no?
>
>Only those brought up on dinosaur derived systems and mentalities. And i'm so
>very certain that Mom and Pop want to be programmers (even in the very limited
>form of writing shell commands).

 Command-lines have their place and it's nice to have them as an option
if not the primary interface. They needn't be dinosaurlike either. Command
parsing is about to make a comeback, even in "user friendly machines" such as
whatever the Mac turns into. 

 Don't believe me?

 Voice driven menues are a bigger pain than voice driven commands. It's
just a microphone instead of a keyboard.



-- 
   -dave   fetrow-		INTERNET:	fetrow@biostat.washington.edu
   				BITNET:		fetrow@uwalocke
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban,news.groups
From: msawyer@mael.soest.hawaii.edu (Michael Sawyer)
Subject: Re: VOTE ACK: comp.society.folklore unmoderation
Organization: School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:52:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.013837.3332@news.columbia.edu> kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka) writes:
[ Messages regarding what look to be dup votes... ]
>Just wondering, because if it's ok to vote from multiple accounts, I do
>have a few more "no" votes coming in soon...

Hmmm...  Let's see; there are about 100 workstations here which
inherit my account from the NIS password server, so that would mean I
would get at least 100 votes (actually 400 or so since I maintain a
couple of additional accounts for special projects or testing).  I
don't know, but something doesn't seem quite right about this.  :>

>Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
>kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |    one.
>karthik@cs.columbia.edu    | By "recursion" I mean "defined by recursion".


-- 
Michael Sawyer		msawyer@mael.soest.hawaii.edu
University of Hawaii Physical Oceanography/Satellite Remote Sensing
From: jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu (James Wiegand)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: mail address
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:51:31 GMT
Organization: Temple University EE Dept.

In article <R2eHVB3w165w@mertwig.uucp> xyzzy@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker) writes:
>probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
>
>> xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) writes:
>> >--                          
>> >  Daniel Max P. Drucker                                     xyzzy%mertwig@uu
>> 
>> >                       Amateur radio callsign pending                    
>> >"Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!" -HHGT
>> 
>> >Note: my mail address probably doesn't work. I'm working on it, for now, 
>> >figure it out from    uupsi!utoday!jaflrn!mertwig!xyzzy
>> 
>> I give up, you've posted so much useless GARBAGE in the past week 	 can 
>> only see one place for it all to go. Into the permanent kill file.
>
>Note about my note: --- I didn't change it. The entire system had that appended.
>
>
>> (Which from what I read you don't know anything about, so ignore this then).
>
>Sarcasm. See my post.
>Moron.
>
>
>--
>Daniel Max P. Drucker      Amateur radio: N2SXX     xyzzy%mertwig@uunet.uu.net
>______________________________________________________________________________
>"Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!" -HHGTTG

You wouldn't know a bang path if it hit you over the head.
You don't even realize your system is chopping your lines
off.
Please keep this crap off of afc.
Why don't you post to alt.DMPD.weenie.wizard.hamster.duct-tape
instead of annoying all of us?

[After reading 20 or so similar postings by the boy wonder
I am really getting into this!]

DIE RAT BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^K/xyzzy/:j

jim
normally a loving and caring guy. honest.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki)
Subject: Re: Our friend, R. Morris. was: Re: Famous flame wars, examples please?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:53:24 GMT

In article <1gim18INNhkv@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki) writes:
>
>>Exploited a bug in SMTP, everyone, 10 times, fixed the bug in SMTP.
>
>You must be pretty fuzzy about it since the SMTP infiltration was
>through a debugging feature (it was not a bug).  The worm also used a
>variety of other techniques the most clever of which was exploiting a
>bug in fingerd.
>

Ah, yes.  I apologize, I wasn't oficially on the internet at the time
and I only remember what I read in passing, thanks for your input.
I do remember taking a look at some code in "Unix World" that mentioned
SMTP, I don't remember (and highly doubt) if it was "the" code though.

>jim frost
>jimf@centerline.com


--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: smr2@cornell.edu (Szymon Rusinkiewicz)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: PI
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:55:40 GMT
Organization: Totally Disorganized...

Szymon Rusinkiewicz (smr2@cornell.edu) writes:
>Daniel Drucker (daniel@mertwig.uucp) writes:
>>A while back people were asking for the 50000 digits of pi; if anyone is 
>>still looking for it, please mail me with a subject of "send pi".

>>If I get more than 15 requests in the first day, I will post it.

>For THE 50000 digits of pi? Since when is pi finite?   :-)
+---------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
+-->   :1,$s/is finite/has a finite number of decimal digits/g

It's that time of year again, when minds start to do strange things...

SMR
---
+------------------------------------------+   #include <fancy/ascii.graphics>
| Szymon Rusinkiewicz (smr2@cornell.edu)   |     #include <std/disclaimer.h>
+------------------------------------------+     #include <misc/witty/quote>
| (This space intentionally left blank...) |       grep flames > /dev/null
+------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,alt.folklore.urban
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: Proper pronounciation of 'Kibo'
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:58:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.200759.16071@honte.uleth.ca> std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca writes:
>Kibo, what do you do on the net?  Also, what do you do in the real world?

Um...

I dunno.
							-- K.
From: mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Nursing Homes
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:27:44 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        Hi gang, I know I've been gone for a few weeks.  I've been reading the
postings but with numerous exams etc., I've been too busy to post any stories.
        
        The topic I thought I'd discuss today is a nursing home...

        While in college I had a variety of jobs.  One involved working at a
nursing home.  While there I had several insidences that could only be called
ghost sightings.  I will tell those stories soon, in fact I had planned to type
them now but security just called and I have to go move my car.  

        One thing I do what to mention is a habit that nursing home nurses and
workers have when someone dies.  It is a common practice for them to crack
(that means open slightly) a window in the room where a person has resently
died.  The explaination is that it will remove the stigma of death from the
room(that I'll get into later) but in reality most of the staff do this
tradition because it will help to free the spirit.

        I remember one time when a very bitter old lady passed on.  We couldn't
get the window to open and the entire staff was very distraught.  She was the
last person we wanted to have haunting the place.

        Well, more later...  gotta go...

                                                Diana McMurtrey

        Common disclaimer....
                                        
        



Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: aec1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Allen Chen)
Subject: re: Curious and yellow reference
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:39:16 GMT


The original group where the "I am curious and yellow" post appeared is
alt.paranormal.  I made a followup on the same group that might be 
interesting to some of you.  It deals with scientific instrumentation 
used in ghost detection/studies.

Keep those great ghost stories coming!
_______________/
Allen Chen
aec1@cornell.edu
_______________/
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright)
Subject: Re: I am curious and yellow too
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: SLC
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:20:14 GMT

Tony Zugates (tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com) wrote:
: Rather that retype what is already written, and since I am not a 
: software type...  there is an interesting post regarding an episode
: of "Sightings" in regards to a very pissed off entity in Van Nuys(?)
: 
: Anyway, I just found out about this group and wished I had posted here
: also.  
: 
: If anyone can help who knows about electronics i.e. static fields,
: magnetometers, IR detection etc..please see the post "Curious and
: Yellow"... we have a reader who wants to conduct an experiment
: and need techical advise/information..

OK, you wished you had posted here (in alt.folklore.ghost-stories) too,
and we're to look for the "curious yellow" article in some other group.

What other group?  Huh?

And what aspect of curiosity is "yellow"?  The only thing I can think of is
the children's books "Curious George and the Man with the Yellow Hat".

  -- Dan Wright
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright)
Subject: Re: The Monkey's Paw (info)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: SLC
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:36:37 GMT

The film _Tales from the Crypt_ includes a monkey's paw sketch.  The
mother's first wish resulted in her son's death in return for some money.
Her second wish resulted in her husband's death, though I can't remember
exactly how.  Her husband is embalmed and lying in state in an open coffin
in her parlor, when she spends her third and last wish, asking that her
husband come back to life and live forever.  Suddenly, the poor man regains
consciousness, only to scream and writhe in agony at the embalming fluid in
his veins.  He begs her to kill him, but although she stabs him repeatedly
with a knife, he cannot be killed.   At last in utter despair she closes
the lid on her crying husband and has the servants wheel him out to be
buried alive and to suffer forever ...

  -- Dan Wright
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: toma@hyperion.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Atwater)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: The Monkey's Paw
Organization: Code 916, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:31:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.155000.10106@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
> [same version of the story that I remember]

>Does anyone remember who wrote this?  I think it may have been Kipling or
>Conan Doyle, but it could have been Ambrose Bierce.

Don't think it was any of these.
H.H.Munro (aka Saki) comes to mind.

-- 
Tom Atwater
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com (Loyde Hales ~)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:48:05 GMT

>Dave Maycon (warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM) wrote:
>> Hello everyone, I am new to this net and don't know if anybody ever talked
>> about the story with the boy figure in the move Three Men & Baby.  When
>> I saw this for the first time it just sent chills down my spine.  Was
>> this proof to millions of people that ghost do exist.  The company tried
>> to cover up saying that was a cardboard figure, they got to be kidding.
>> How could everybody on the stage miss that.  Does anybody out there
>> know alittle more insight to this.  All I know is that the little boy
>> died in that same apartment some years back, the same apartment that
>> they filmed the movie at.
>> 
>> Dave

In article <1992Dec14.030046.19066@openage.openage.com>
gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:

>I thought that they filmed movies in sound stages.  It is too tight to get a
>film crew into an apartment.  I will have to look at the movie again, but
>exactly what point in the movie does the kid appear.

Finally, a voice of reason!  :-)

Really, I was going to get out my Bag of Long-Winded Replies, but I decided to
scan for others first.  In this particular case, The Golden Gryphon hits the
nail on the head.  The particular scenes (yes, others claim to see the ghost
in different scenes) have one commonality: they were all filmed on a sound
stage built for the movie.  The apartment building "on location" is only used
for OUTSIDE shots, as is common in movies.

This has been discussed frequently in a number of newgroups.  I've seen
replies from cameraman on the movie, aides to producers, and many others.
They all report the same thing.

But I do so prefer the story...



-- 
Loyde W. Hales II
Portland Technology Development, Intel Corporation		Aloha, Oregon
E-mail:  lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com
Voice:   (503) 642-6819
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: lorenzo@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eric Lorenzo)
Subject: Re: The Monkey's Paw (info)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:52:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.213637.7140@unislc.uucp> dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright) writes:
>The film _Tales from the Crypt_ includes a monkey's paw sketch.  The
>mother's first wish resulted in her son's death in return for some money.
>Her second wish resulted in her husband's death, though I can't remember
>exactly how.  Her husband is embalmed and lying in state in an open coffin
>in her parlor, when she spends her third and last wish, asking that her
>husband come back to life and live forever.  Suddenly, the poor man regains
>consciousness, only to scream and writhe in agony at the embalming fluid in
>his veins.  He begs her to kill him, but although she stabs him repeatedly
>with a knife, he cannot be killed.   At last in utter despair she closes
>the lid on her crying husband and has the servants wheel him out to be
>buried alive and to suffer forever ...
>
>  -- Dan Wright

OUCH!  That's what I call horror.  I remember reading that exact story in
the old comic book.  Is this film on video?  I've seen Creepshow (I & II),
and Tales from the Darkside: The movie, but didn't know Tales From the Crypt
had come out with one.

Thanks for the time,
Eric
-- 
       --    O          The thrill is                   Eric J. Lorenzo
     ---   </\_      not just in winning,       lorenzo@Rintintin.Colorado.EDU
   ----  -\/\         but in the courage                  also @UCSU
      ---   /_         to join the race    -?               & @Spot
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: "black" ghosts?
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:46:00 GMT

it sounds like a shadow ghost or shade. which tends to be malevolent.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: 3 MEN & BABY: SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:54:39 GMT

In article 1@nickel.laurentian.ca, s1400070@nickel.laurentian.ca () writes:
>      I know the true story about the so called ghost in Three Men and a 
> Baby and I am here to give it to you all once and for all.  
> 
>      The film was not shot in an apartment but on a soundstage in Toronto
> Canada.  The "ghost" was a cutout cardboard prop of Ted Danson in a tuxedo
> and top hat.  Remember that in the movie, Ted played the role of an actor.
> As such, the director of the movie wanted to stress this characterization
> by adding a prop of Ted's character ie the Cardboard cutout of himself which
> was supposed to be a perk that he got from doing a commercial.  If you 
> guys wathched the whole movie very closely, you would see a scene where Ted
> is in deep thought ( reflecting ) and he just happens to be standing right
> in front of this cutout of himself.  You can see it as clear as day!!!
> Suddenly, though, when it is seen in a different scene, it is in the 
> distance and out of focus and everyone says it is a ghost.  NO NO NO.
> 
>                                                  John 


a voice of reason. 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: casmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (CatherineArnott Smith)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:27:05 GMT


For a satisfactory explanation of this urban legend, see OMNI magazine--I
believe it was the October or November issue this fall.  The production
company has repeatedly stated (1) that the film was not even shot in the city
where the child is supposed to have died, and (2) the figure which is
perceived on-screen is in fact a cardboard cutout which the Ted Danson
character keeps in his apartment (this cutout appeared in the film as
originally shot but the scene ended up on the cutting room floor).

I ain't no heedless, knee-jerking debunker.  I've had long correspondence with
Jan Brunvand trying to prove that one of his urban legends was true.  But even
I don't believe this one.

Catherine Arnott Smith
Reference Librarian
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Dead relatives communicating from beyond
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:37:28 GMT

i am sorry for your loss. but there was no way for u to know. but be glad that 
there was a link between u and your brother so strong that it could reach
across a great distance.
all the best and dont blame yourself for not knowing. no way u could.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: probe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Prabal Nandy)
Subject: Re: Ghost dream
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:43:04 GMT


    Right, I mean, I didn't want to be a story-pooper... but when I was
young I used to be TERRIFIED of those paralytic-episodes, (I would begin to
dread sleeping, I even had dreams where I would be paralyzed and stuck to
the floor while some huge, vaguely human shadow rose up behind me.) so I
thought I ought to give you a calming explanation of what my Father said...
it certainly helped me!

                                                             -Probe

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: maxine@camelot.bradley.edu (Lynn Roth)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:14:31 GMT

Where in the movie does the ghost show up?

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			maxine@camelot.bradley.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The freedom to use handcuffs for friendly purposes.
		-Aerosmith "Rock the Vote"
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From: msheldon@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Marti Sheldon)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Seance Story
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:44:16 GMT
Distribution: usa

I've never done a seance, but when I was a child I played with
a OUIJA board with a good friend.  We "spoke" to a spirit who
gave a name and a date of death and a historical reference (it
was from King Henry's England), as well as some other information.
Neither one of us were well versed in English history.  We attempted
to locate the city where this "spirit" claimed to be from on a map
of England and couldn't find it... until we found a map from that
time in history.  This particular city hasn't existed since the
17th century.  Neither one of us would have had any way of knowing
about it.

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories