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From: cs922096@ariel.yorku.ca (JOSE J. MONTANO)
Subject: Re: Leon Songs.
Originator: cs922096@a02.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:12:03 GMT





    Here is another of Lai Ming's songs, kind of an 'oldie', but it is my 
favorite Leon tune.....As in the other 2 posts of his songs, the words are
romanized using the Yale system....


              "Ji Ye Ni Hui Bu Hui Lai?"
              (Are You Coming Tonight?)   

   Waak heui chung chung yat saang jung yiu yu nei seung jeui...
   Seung sik fei au yin mong mong yan hoi leui.
   Seui ji do mau yat nei waak heui mui hei ngoh yi bit heui.
   Jung Seung wing yuen dei oi jeuk nei...
     lei bo bei chi sang jung keui lei.

    Jaap gwaan liu mui maan yiu man gwo nei joi heui on seui.
    Dong tin dik na duen sai yin cheung lau sam leui.
    Chi hak keuk man bit nei yan hoi leui chiu chiu yin lei bit ngoh.
    Ho ji do ngoh wai nei naan gwo, ching bat bit gaai sik tai do.

    Yu nei oi gwo wing yuen gam gik sam leui
    Yuen oi yi jeun gei cheui
    Pan joi yu nei po gan mui duen sing nok....
    Yat hei joi jeui!

  --Jin ye ni hui bu hui lai?  Ni di ai hai zai bu zai.
    Ga si sat heui nei, seui yiu mei loi,
    Seui yuen fong sam lei hoi!
    
    Jin ye ni hui bu hui lai?  Ni di ai hai zai bu zai.
    Ji seung yung yau nei, tung dou mei loi,
    Pui bun jeuk ngoh seung oi!

    Jaap gwaan liu mui maan yiu man gwo nei joi heui on seui.
    Dong tin dik na duen sai yin cheung lau sam leui.
    Chi hak keuk man bit nei yan hoi leui chiu chiu yin lei bit ngoh.
    Ho ji do ngoh wai nei naan gwo, ching bat bit gaai sik tai do.

    Yu nei oi gwo wing yuen gam gik sam leui
    Yuen oi yi jeun gei cheui
    Pan joi yu nei po gan mui duen sing nok....
    Yat hei joi jeui!    

  --Jin ye ni hui bu hui lai?  Ni di ai hai zai bu zai.
    Ga si sat heui nei, seui yiu mei loi,
    Seui yuen fong sam lei hoi!
    
    Jin ye ni hui bu hui lai?  Ni di ai hai zai bu zai.
    Ji seung yung yau nei, tung dou mei loi,
    Pui bun jeuk ngoh seung oi!
 
    Jin ye ni hui bu hui lai?  Ni di ai hai zai bu zai.
    Ga si sat heui nei, seui yiu mei loi,
    Seui yuen fong sam lei hoi!
    
    Jin ye ni hui bu hui lai?  Ni di ai hai zai bu zai.
    Ji seung yung yau nei, tung dou mei loi,
    Pui bun jeuk ngoh.....seung oi!.....
 
    

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: alaw@elaine29.stanford.edu (Alvin Law)
Subject: Re: UNIX Market in Hong Kong
Reply-To: alaw@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:08:18

alteh@bnr.ca (Alwyn Teh) writes:
>I was in Hong Kong last Summer 1992 and I had a look in the  Classifieds
>in the South China Morning Post.  I don't remember having found anything
>in Unix/C or at least nothing interested me. It's all too commercial and
>nothing scientific and state-of-the-art which is what I want.

If you look for lower-level, state-of-the-art UNIX/C development in
Hong Kong, I agree that you won't find much.  Hong Kong is too small a
market to fund large scale software development.  Why develop yourself
if you can buy the software from the commercial market?

But I don't agree that too commercial != UNIX, even in Hong Kong.
Yes, there are lots of mainframes and AS/400's running in Hong Kong,
but many companies are looking into rightsizing their mainframes to
UNIX based servers like HP/HP-UX, Sun and Pyramid.  So the job market
is out there.  The reason you don't find them in the Classified is
because they don't expect people with UNIX development experience to
read the Classified looking for a job.  You will find some openings if
you go through head hunters, especially those with connections in
North America and Europe, though the openings will be in sysadmin or
application development (with RDBMS, for example).
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From: cole@uts.amdahl.com (William Cole)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Summary: You must break ties to avoid Canadian tax
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:43:40 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan11.232431.5008@mprgate.mpr.ca>, jiang@mpr.ca (Jie C. Jiang) writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.094928.20479@pegasus.com> wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng) writes:
> >paid is a credit.  Canadian citizens / pr are taxed on their 
> >worldwide income only if they reside in Canada (at least was
> >the case few years ago).  So if they live and make money in HK,
> >they don't pay Canadian tax.
> >
> 
> Are you sure your source of information is reliable? Several other netters 
> pointed out that Canada has similar policy as the US. I called up Revenue 
> Canada and the lady I talked to was not aware of any tax exemption for 
> Canadians working overseas. The only exception is Canadian citizens (PR 
> excluded) working in the US, who only have to pay tax to the Canadian 
> government for the first two years, due to the Free Trade Agreement.
> 
> Can anybody confirm this?
> 
> --JC
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Revenue Canada gives explicit rules about which Canadians are
taxed on worldwide income and which are not, I urge you to read the
appropriate publications (which I dont have here). To paraphrase the
law, it states that you must "break ties" with Canada for 2 years
before you escape Revenue Canada's worldwide income taxation.
"Breaking ties" means (among many things) no Cdn bank accounts, no
Cdn credit cards, no prov. health insurance, non-residency etc.

And you must be "clean" of ties for two years. I have no idea
what effect, if any, the FTA has had on the US-Cdn tax treaty.

                     bill



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From: n2681221@dec3.ncku.edu.tw ()
Subject: good new years
Organization: NCKU Tainan Taiwan 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:52:49 GMT





jan, s~N,ws~C
From: Chun.Hing@f121.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Chun Hing)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: economy of hong kong and
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:20:54 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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May I intrude....

In a msg on <Dec 23 03:46>, Du Kaisheng writes:

 DK> I felt hard to understand those arrogant people of Hongkong.  
 DK> They alwayse think they are superior to their mainland fellow 
 DK> countrymen.... 

I am from Hong Kong.  I see your point and agree that our Hong Kong fellows
should reflect on your feelings (and probably same feelings as many from
mainland China).

 DK> The final word I want to say is that to give democracy to a 
 DK> people with such a biased mind like you is dangerous.  Do you 
 DK> think it is now your turn to educate people from mainland 
 DK> since British people will leave after educating you for more 
 DK> than 100 years?

Just like that you dislike people say that CCP has brain-washed Chinese
people, let us not think on the premise that the British has brain-washed Hong
Kong people.

The basic principle of democracy is that the power of the Government should
come from the people.  Democracy is not "given".  Who has the right to "give"
people democracy.  Those who appears to "give" us democracy are just the
people who have "taken" away our rights.  We (Chinese) don't want
dictators/totalitarian government, no matter British or Chinese or others.

I wish there can be more dialog between Chinese from Hong Kong and Chinese
from mainland.  We are not two homogenous groups but actually both are very
heterogenous groups.  We need to understand each other more.


  - Chun Hing - 

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From: 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: Pop Music Awards! ][
Organization: OSU Physics Dept.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:19:34 GMT

Hi all SCHKers,

RTHK just held its annual musical awards yesterday, and here are the results:

The Best Ten Songs of 1992

 1. Secret Admiring (ngam luen nei) - Jacky Cheung Hok-yau
 2. Hope we're not just friends (da:n yuen butt dzi si peng yau) - Leon Lai
 3. Long night is so romantic (tseung yeh dor long ma:n) - Andy Lau Tak-wah
 4. Why I let you go (ngor wai hor yeung nei dzau) - Aaron Kwok Fu-shing
 5. [xiao1 sa3 zou3 yi4 hui2] (siu sar dzau yutt wui) - Sally Yeh Sin-man
 6. Red Teahouse (hung tsar goon) - Priscilla Chan Wai-han
 7. Still think you're the best (wa:n si gok duck nei dzui ho) - Jacky Cheung
 8. My dear (ngor dik tsun oi) - Leon Lai Ming
 9. A woman who is easily hurt (yung yi sau seung dik nui yun) - Shirley Wong
10. The real me (dzun ngor dik fung tsoi) - Andy Lau Tak-wah

"Golden Pin" award - Cheng Kwok-kwong (lyrics writer)

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-= Aulina Chan Sau Chun =- 91066702@cphkvx.bitnet
City Polytechnic of Hong Kong
Division of Humanities and Social Sciences
Higher Diploma in Translation and Interpretation (Year 2)
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From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: About flower
Originator: leung@bittemple
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:31:54 GMT


The most beautiful moment of a flower varies among various types. For most
flowers, it is the moment of full blossom.

I think for roses, the most beautiful moment is when they start but not yet
enter the blossoming stage. It's that short waiting period. Only a few very
exceptional roses can transform that beauty of "waiting for blossoming" into
another kind of beauty when they are in full blossom. Even fewer can maintain
that beauty or transform it into yet another beauty type to their end of blossom.

Some Chrysanthemums (Gook Fa) are exactly the opposite of roses. The one
I like most is the Hai(crab) Chau(leg) Gook, whose beauty in the full
blossom stage is really just a beginning, and the closer to the blossoming
end, the more stunning is its beauty/spirit. Really Cin Jee Cher York.

				X	X	X

Many people think that the type of flower they love most is the most beautiful 
type although in reality, few of them actually see more than a couple types. 

Most people love more than one type of flower.

And all people enjoy looking at beautiful flowers, and the enjoyment is
invariably enhanced considerably when _somebody else_ take care of the flowers.
(Note the subtle point here: there are flowers (like those on the pavement)
don't need people's care, but people don't appreciate them, let alone their
enjoyment being enhanced. Therefore, only a flower that needs people's care
will the enjoyment of its beauty occur, and only that care is provided by 
_somebody else_ will the enjoyment be enhanced. There were, of course, flowers
that are not beautiful but need care, but they must have become extinct long 
time ago in the evolution process.)

				X	X	X

Bees and butterflies do not visit the same flower at the same time, although
in the lifetime of a flower, there are usually more than one bees/butterflies
visiting her. So, bees and butterflies also visit more than one flowers in
their lifetime except those poor bees/butterflies who visit those insect-
eating flowers in their "Dai Yat Chi"(first_encounter).

Behind every successful bee, there are more than one flowers.

People tend to think that a beautiful butterfly standing on a blossoming flower
constitutes a beautiful picture. From the flowers' viewpoint, they also always
prefer butterflies over bees (and large ones over small ones) to visit them.
But unlike bees who intentionally visit the flowers, the butterflies appear to
be on the flowers just by chance. (I always have a hard time to figure out what
the butterfly tries to do when it stands on a flower.) And of course, what is
on a blossoming flower is purely determined by what happens to be around when
the flower blossoms. So, it is not uncommon that some unfortunate flowers end
up with having a fruitfly on them! That's what we called "Yuan Fun," sigh.


Steven
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li)
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Calendar
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 06:03:24 GMT

In article <pmanne-060193112654@ma-mac13.uio.no> pmanne@math.uio.no (Per Manne) writes:
>I've got a HK calendar for 1993. The days marked in red are (I assume)
>
>Jan. 1          New Year Day
>Jan. 22-25      Chinese New Year
Jan 22 (Fri) day before Chinese New Year
Jan 23 Chinese New Year day
Jan 25 3rd Day of the New year
>Apr. 5          Ching Ming
>Apr. 9-12       Easter
Apr 9 - Good Friday
Apr 12 - Easter Monday
>June 12-14
June 12 - The "Boss Lady's" bday, aka The Queen's birthday
June 14 - first Monday after Queen's birthday
June 24  - Dragon Boat Festival
>Aug. 28-30
Aug 28 - the Sat before the last Monday in Aug
Aug 30 - last Monday in Aug = HK liberation from Japan (Liberation Day)
>Oct. 1          National Day in China
Oct 1 - the day after Mid-autumn festival (just happens to be PRC national day)
Oct. 23 - Chong Yeung ("Double Nine")
>Dec. 25-27      Christmas
>
That's it folks!

-- Vince

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From: davidlai@unixg.ubc.ca (David TW Lai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: passport renewal in Canada
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:55:43 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In <wongj.726868783@honte> wongj@rho.uleth.ca (Jonathan Wong) writes:

>Could anyone tell me how to renew HK passport in Canada ?
>Thanks.

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Check your local phone directory for "BRITISH CONSULATE_GENERAL."  Phone
them or visit their office and pick up an application form.  All applications
will have to be sent to the High Commission at Ottawa.  The High Commission
at Ottawa is the only authority in Canada has the power to amend passport.
However, your local Consulte-General will be able to provide you the form
and give you advice.  Passports are normally NOT renewable prior to 6 months
before expiry, nor no passports are extended beyond their 10 years maximum
validaty period.  It will take one month to process.

David.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: alteh@bnr.ca (Alwyn Teh)
Subject: re: UNIX Market in Hong Kong
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:38:20 GMT

I was in Hong Kong last Summer 1992 and I had a look in the  Classifieds
in the South China Morning Post.  I don't remember having found anything
in Unix/C or at least nothing interested me. It's all too commercial and
nothing scientific and state-of-the-art which is what I want.

Cheers,

Alwyn

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wongle@ecf.toronto.edu (WONG LEO)
Subject: I'm wondering if anyone can help me...
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:28:32 GMT

I hope someone out there can help me with this.
Recently, I've been listening to Beyond and have
become quite attracted to the guitar licks that
have been played.  Don't know if anyone out there
would know the guitar tabs for the solos?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Zooey..
From: Anthony.Kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Anthony Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Internet in Hong Kong
Date: 8 Jan 1993 04:19:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On <Dec 22 15:20>, Samson Luk of 6:700/1.301@fidonet wrote to Gary Ng:

 SL> What do you mean by cheaper than HKPCUG?!?  Your BBS charge user 
 SL> HK$80.00 per MONTH while HKPCUG charge *NOTHING* except the $2.50 
 SL> per outgoing message for users who only want the e-mail service - 
 SL> users do *NOT* need to join as HKPCUG Member to use e-mail in our 
 SL> BBS.  Users may even send e-mails for FREE via other FidoNet BBS 
 SL> in HK and HKPCUG provides routing of e-mails to/from Internet as 
 SL> a courtesy to ALL FidoNet BBS in HK as well as in Asia.

Myself and other active users are using the services of the HKPCUG
occasionally.  Thanks for your efforts and $.


      BR, Anthony Kwan - Environment + IT Net
Internet: anthony.kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org

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From: 911288c@axe.acadiau.ca (HON (EDWIN) KIN CHUNG)
Subject: Re: Internet in Hong Kong
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:02:36 GMT

In article <C0JyKF.7J@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umngai06@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Lun Yuen Ngai) writes:
>From: umngai06@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Lun Yuen Ngai)
>Subject: Re: Internet in Hong Kong
>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:36:14 GMT

>In article <36021.2B4D4E85@puddle.fidonet.org> Anthony.Kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Anthony Kwan) writes:
>>
>>On <Dec 22 15:20>, Samson Luk of 6:700/1.301@fidonet wrote to Gary Ng:
>>
>> SL> What do you mean by cheaper than HKPCUG?!?  Your BBS charge user 
>> SL> HK$80.00 per MONTH while HKPCUG charge *NOTHING* except the $2.50 
>> SL> per outgoing message for users who only want the e-mail service - 
>> SL> users do *NOT* need to join as HKPCUG Member to use e-mail in our 
>> SL> BBS.  Users may even send e-mails for FREE via other FidoNet BBS 
>> SL> in HK and HKPCUG provides routing of e-mails to/from Internet as 
>> SL> a courtesy to ALL FidoNet BBS in HK as well as in Asia.
>>
>>Myself and other active users are using the services of the HKPCUG
>>occasionally.  Thanks for your efforts and $.
>>
>>
>>      BR, Anthony Kwan - Environment + IT Net
>>Internet: anthony.kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org
>>
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hello... Would you like to give me more information for the internet
in hongkong...
like phone number ...etc
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan)
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Calendar
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:00:39 GMT

In article <eln235s.726317103@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au> eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Humphrey Hui) writes:
>pmanne@math.uio.no (Per Manne) writes:
>
>>I've got a HK calendar for 1993. The days marked in red are (I assume)
>>official holidays. I can only figure out a few of them, and would like some
>>help with the others. Please fill in the blanks!
>
>>Jan. 1          New Year Day
>>Jan. 22-25      Chinese New Year
>>Apr. 5          Ching Ming
>>Apr. 9-12       Easter
>
>>June 12-14
>Commonwealth day and queen's birthday(?)
>One interesting thing: I remember having the queen's birthday on 2
>different months for 2 years when I was studying in seconday school. 
>Can anyone confirm that? Is it the power of being queen? -:)
>
>>June 24
>Dragon boat festival.
>
>>Aug. 28-30
>One of these must be the day commemorates HK got back freedom from
>Japan during WWII. (Don't know the official name.)

Actually, my guess is this might be the Chung Chow (Mid-Autumn Festival)

Fran

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eechung@uxmail.ust.hk (CHUNG KAI CHEUNG)
Subject: Hong Kong Public Holiday
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:34:52 GMT

	According to my diary, the public holidays of HK in 1993 are:

1 Jan		New Year
22-25 Jan	Chinese New Year
5 Apr		Ching Ming Festival
9-12 Apr	Easter
12-14 Jun	Birth of the Queen of Britain
24 Jun		Dragon Boat Festival
28 Aug		The Saturday before the last Monday in August
30 Aug		Memorial Day for the end of World War II in HK
1 Oct		The following day of Mid-autumn Festival
23 Oct		Chung Yeung Festival
25-27 Dec	Christmas


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From: wongj@rho.uleth.ca (Jonathan Wong)
Subject: passport renewal in Canada
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:59:43 GMT

Could anyone tell me how to renew HK passport in Canada ?
Thanks.

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From: Samson.Luk@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Samson Luk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Question: Any Commercial Systems in HK?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 20:06:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


In a msg on <Jan 07 21:29>, Raju Daryanani of 6:700/1.309@fidonet writes:

 RD> charges over HK$5 per minute of connect time for a 2400bps link, 
 RD> plus a monthly membership fee.

Hmmm.... should be around HK$5 for 9600bps link and HK$3.6 for a 2400bps
link.

Regards

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