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From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Subject: Re: Koontz Computer Predictions - Week 11
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:42:21 GMT
Summary: Bug, BUG *BUG* SMILEY.
Keywords: computer, picks, predictions, sarcasm.

In article <1261@fozzy.UUCP> ckoontz@fozzy.UUCP (Carl H. Koontz) writes:
>Well, I should have known that as soon as I made my picks public I would have
>a bad week. I was 6-8 last week bringing my yearly total to a still impressive
>89-37.
 	I have a theory about your program. There is a bug where the
	scores are correct, but the wrong games are assigned. Lets see 
	how it should look...
>
>Here are my picks for Week 11:

  BUGGY               Corrected
---------------------------------
>Detroit  10          New England   10
>Pittsburgh  9        Indianapolis   9
>
>LA Rams  27          New Orleans   27
>Dallas   23          San Fransico  23
>
>Philadelphia  3      Detroit        3
>Green Bay    38      Pittsburgh    38
>
>Phoenix  30          Buffalo       30
>Atlanta  51          Miami         51   (a little high but hey..)
>
>Washington  3        Seattle        3
>Kansas City 6        LA Raiders     6
>
>Cincinnati  34       Philadelphia  34
>NY Jets     9        Green Bay      9
>
>Houston    3         LA Rams        3
>Minnesota 51         Dallas        51
>
>New England  24      Phoenix       30
>Indianapolis 21      Atlanta       51
>
>San Diego  28        Washington    28
>Cleveland  27        Kansas City   27
>
>Chicago    24        Chicago       24
>Tampa Bay  21        Tampa Bay     21    (Hashing anomoly)
>
>New Orleans  13      NY Giants     13
>San Francisco 31     Denver        31
>
>Seattle    3         Cincinnati     3
>LA Raiders 10        NY Jets       10
>
>NY Giants  27        San Diego     27
>Denver      3        Cleveland     17
>
>Buffalo    38        Houston       38
>Miami      17        Minnesota     17
>
>Comments welcome.
	I think you don't match the games and the scores correctly.
	Check the hashing functions during the print routine...


-- 
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From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: DamN AstrOturF!!
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:55:06 GMT


	Look at the injuries related to astroturf over that past 2
	weeks, 'Lanta's QB, NY's LB and numerous others.

	When are they going to spend the bucks and grow grass
	indoors? Hell they can grow marijuana indoors, why
	not grass?


--
    bill@uhunix.bitnet 
    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
    21.19 N.LAT by 157.52 W.LONG          
    Fish on the Byte
From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 2,000 yard rusher
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:02:05 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <8{#@byu.edu>, rosej@utah.et.byu.edu (James Rose) writes:
> 
> v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>>I was wondering if anyone knows who the last man to rush for
>>2,000 yards was?
> 
> Last man?  How about ONLY man.  Eric Dickersons' record stands at 2005 yards.
> 
> 			James


    Well, I'm sure you're getting lots of mail so I'll keep this short:
when exactly did you discover the NFL?

                                      -doug THE dolfan-
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: I'm gonna rip Greg Gumble's head off!!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:34:20 CST

In article <BxFInv.w0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mfv23060@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Maurice F. Vallejo) writes:
>	AAAARRRRGGGGGG,  CBS is on my shit list.  CBS shows the first 
>half of the Cowboy/Lions and some of the third quarter.  Then all of a
>sudden they decide to switch over to the Giant/Packers game,  cause
>the Cowboy's had their game wrapped up.  WHAT THE HELL!!  Hello!
>The Giants killed the Packers & CBS doesn't mention the Cowboy/Loins game
>at all.  I waited three years for the Cowboys to get really good, and they
>switch over to a stupid sloppy blowout.   ARRRGGGGG.  What is the address 
>for CBS's sports?  Or better yet, what is Greg's home phone?  
>	If CBS is going to show a game, show it all the way through.  It is 
>very frustrating to get into a game, and then wham-bam a different game.

The Lions-Packers game was close until the middle of the 4th quarter.  The
Cowboys were beating the crap out of the Lions.  The game was over.  That
is the way TV things work, unless your local team (in your case the Bears)
is on.  Deal with it.  I can't understand people who get irate when their
team is blowing out another one, and get upset if they can't see all the
blowout.  Geeesh.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Montana throwing again...ho hum
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:46:04 GMT

jdng90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gorsuch JDN) writes:
>    No it wouldn't, a good way for Super Joe to end his career would
>be if with ten minutes to go in the SB [...]

... and the Niners 2 points behind, Steve Young has an "enexplained"
stomach flu right after sipping some Gatorade brought to him
personally by Super Joe.  So Joe goes in, and gets 2 quick short
completions to Ricky Watters in the flat.  Then, on first and ten he
play-acts the handoff to Watters and looks deep to Rice... but with a
loud "crackle and pop" heard throughout the civilized world and to the
horror of billions, his elbow snaps and the ball floats,
ugly-duckling-like, into the waiting hands of Karl Mecklenburg, who
returns it 36 yards for the clinching touch.


--Gidi	(go bills)
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: STEELERS:  Eric Green suspended
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:57:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I can't believe it, but I saw it on ESPN.  TE Eric Green has been suspended
for 6 weeks for drug use.  They said it wasn't steroids, although they never
said what it WAS.  Supposedly, if he tests negative for the drugs, then he can
come back, but if it's positive there is a one year suspension from the NFL.
I'm not sure what that meant, exactly, so perhaps someone could explain it.
Do they mean if its negative in 6 weeks, or if its negative now?  Apparently
it's his second offense.  Any comments?
-- 


Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - I wish a robot would
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         get elected president.  That way, when he came
215-758-0875            to town, we could all take a shot at him and not
                        feel too bad.
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From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna)
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Teams, Players, Coaches.
Organization: Houses of the Holy
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:14:35 GMT

In article <jono.721609065@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au>, jono@cs.monash.edu.au (Jonathan Oliver) writes:
> jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin) writes:
> 
> >Although I know I'm going to get endless flames for this one, I would add
> >John Elway to this list.  For some reason, he's always been the media's 
> >darling.  Has anyone seen his QB rating this year?  Very poor.  It seems
> >all anyone ever wants to talk about is his comebacks.  Like he's the only
> >Bronco out on the field when they come from behind.  During a comeback, his
> >line, his receivers and the crowd {it always seems these comebacks take 
> >place in Denver} are just as instrumental as he is.
> 


> I would tend to agree with you. During the 90s Elways is just not the same,
> but in the late 80s he took some teams to the superbowl that did not deserve
> to be there.
> 	The Denver defense decimated by Doug Williams was slow and undersized.
> I just don't know how Elway got them there.
> 
> 	Jon OLiver


It seems to me Jon, that you are not agreeing with him but disagreeing
with him.  While jeff says *everyone* is instrumental in the comebacks
etc., you say that Elways took undeserving teams to the superbowl.
I agree.

-- 
Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.
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Subject: Re: Terry Allen
From: <RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:11:46 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

I remember on the MNF Vikes/Bears demolition that one of commentators quoted
Dennis Green's answer on how he uses Roger Craig and Terry Allen

"By instinct."
From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys Meal Menu
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:35:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1duaa8INNara@morrow.stanford.edu>,
GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
|>In article <BxJB9x.2Mp@abode.ttank.com>,
|>eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
|>>The following is the lunch menu for the Cowboys leading up this Sundays
|>>Cowboys/Rams game at Texas Stadium:
|>>
|>>Thursday  : Ram Chops
|>>Friday    : Chicken Fried Ram
|>>Saturday  : Roast Leg of Ram
|>>Sunday    : Battered and Deep Fried Ram
|>>
|>>The Rams haven't got a prayer on Sunday against the Cowboys. I can
pick on the
|>>Rams, they are my local team!
|>>
|>>Cheers,
|>>
|>>Eric
|>>
|>>GO COWBOYS!!
|>
|>The Rams don't have a chance huh?  Yup, just like Phoenix didn't
|>have a chance against the 49ers huh?
|>Don't ever forget that any team on any given day can beat any team
|>in the NFL.
|>
|>                                                     Tony
|>                                                  GO 49ERS!!!

   You are right, so the Saints have a good CHANCE to beat the
    niners this sunday and take command of the nfc west.
   Go Saints !!!!!!!!!   
                          
======================================================
From: ben@auspex.com (Ben PeBenito)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana throwing again...ho hum
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:22:41 GMT
Reply-To: ben@auspex.com
Organization: Auspex Systems


I want to see Montana Back but not this year . The last thing I wan't to see
is another quarterback controversy in SF/Bay Area they are doing great right
now with Steve Young why change it .
Montana made a comment that if he is ready 100% he do not wan't to be benched
I think  he is being selfish by saying that It took a long time to get Young's respect 
and he patiently waited till this day will come for him I think Montana owes him this.
To atleast give him the starting position to Steve Young for this year even if he is 100%.

Just my 2 cents
Ben
 
With the way the niners are playing I am more afraid on easy teams than the hard teams.
Niners should win over New Orleans cause they want this one badly. But if they did win
next game against LA Rams should be another nail bitting game.
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE BET II
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:48:58 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Nov12.104850.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>
>    
>                    
>                     FAN                           FAN OF
>      
>                    *1. Abhay                      Bills
>                    *2. Dan Kary                   Dolphins
>                     3. Chris                      Bills 
>                     4. Bill Perry                 Bills
>                     5. Jon                        Bills
>                     6. JMC162 Penn St. U.         Bills
>                     7. delarocq North Car. St. U. Bills
>                     8. James E. Kist              Bills
>                     9. markl@spuddy               Bills
>                    10. Joel Ian Marcey            Bills
>                    11. Richard Turner             Dolphins
>                    12. Jim Bohy                   Dolphins
>                    13. -doug THE dolfan-          Dolphins

Only 4 out of 13 Miami fans. Clearly, us Bills fans are more confident that
our team will win. Come on, Miami fans! Where are you? Take the BET II.

>    
>                   * = Gentleman's bet
>         
>
>           Well, the spread is Buffalo by one the last I heard. Lets see 
>here: Miami at home, on a Monday night, and a dog. Should be a great AFC
>Championship. Only about another 7,620 minutes till kickoff. Hope my wife
>hides the beer till about 7:00 Monday night, or someone will have to tell
>me if I lost THE BET II.
>
>
>                                   -doug THE dolfan-
>
From: trottibw@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu(Barry Trottier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE BET III
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:56:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world,local
Reply-To: trottibw@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: purple.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Nov10.034157.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>  writes:
> In looking at NFL_1992 Scoreboard's ranking of teams, I was struck by
> the fact that 4 of the teams in the Top 10 were from the NFC East.
> 
> In fact, 7 out of the Top 10 were in the NFC, indicating that at least one
> of the top 10 teams in the league will not even make it to the playoffs,
> whereas AFC stragglers like Cleveland and Kansas City will likely get
> playoff berths.
> 
> This gave me a great idea for a bet, the most vicious type of bet possible.
> Really down to basics here.  It is AFC vs. NFC: Which conference will win
> the Super Bowl?
> 
> Those NFC fans who dare to bet that a team possibly not even their own
> will beat any AFC representative should take this bet.  Likewise, those
> AFC fans who are convinced that an AFC team's strength is equivalent to 
> that of any team the NFC can send to the Bowl should take this bet also.
> 
> The loser of this bet will not be able to post ANYTHING (woof or otherwise)
> to r.s.f.p until the opening kickoff of the 1993 regular season.  The winners
> will have unlimited woofing and anti-woofing privileges, as well as the
> opportunity to post preseason previews of their favorite team, flames of
> stupid prediction posts, and so on.
> 
> I propose we name this "THE BET III".
> 
> The stakes are high, but I'm bettin'.
>   
>                          Name                 Pick
>                          ---------------------------
>                          Greg Franklin        NFC
                           Barry Trottier       NFC

The NFC is much tougher than the AFC, and Dallas, San Francisco, Philli, and  
Washington could all win the super bowl over any AFC team!
(Unless of course they let Elway play Offense and Defense! :))

----------------
Go niners!
Go Elway!

Barry Trottier
e-mail:  trottibw@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: injury report on Jets/Denver
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:17:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: sarah.1992Nov6.131743.25352
Organization: State University of New York at Albany

Does anyone know if Nagle is healty enough to start this week?
Also, I believe Byrd is back, is that true?
Finally, any injuries for Denver or other injuries for the Jets?

                   thanks in advance,
                   Paul
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From: a750288@pan.mc.ti.com (John E. Brennan)
Subject: Patriots News 11/11
Keywords: Saints game, more injuries
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:16:12 GMT


Patriots News 11/11

The Pats were trounced by the Saints Sunday, 31-14 in Foxboro.  It was just
another ugly loss, really.  The Saints jumped out to a 14-0 lead, helped 
along by a Jon Vaughn fumble at the Pats 16 for the first TD and an 
interception for the second TD.  But the Saints made some mistakes, too.
A fumbled punt at the NO 8 yd line gave the Pats the ball.  On the next play
Leonard Russell scored, the first rushing TD of the year for New England.
But the Saints came right back, made it 21-7, and opened it up to 31-7.  In
the 4th quarter Vincent Brown intercepted Bobby hebert and ran it in for a
49 yard TD.  This TD and last week's fumble recovery TD gives Vincent 12
scoring points--more points than any offense player except Irving Fryar.
Scott Zolak saw playing time in the 4th quarter.  Good thing, because Hodson
fractured his thumb in the first quarter and will be out the rest of the
season.

Scoring

NO  Early 9 yd pass from Hebert (Andersen kick)                   0-7
NO  Early 39 yd pass from Hebert (Andersen kick)                  0-14
NE  Russell 8 yd run (Baumann kick)                               7-14
NO  Hilliard 12 yd pass from Hebert (Andersen kick)               7-21
NO  Dunbar 1 yd run (Andersen kick)                               7-28
NO  Andersen 46 yd FG                                             7-31
NE  Brown 49 yd interception return                              14-31

Pats Stats

Rushing:  Russell 10-31, Zolak 4-29, Turner 1-11, Vaughn 2-8, Stephens 1-5
Passing:  Hodson 8-22-1-58, Zolak 5-9-1-20
Receiving:  Fryar 4-39, Cook 4-13, McMurtry 3-12, Vaughn 1-7, Coates 1-7
2 fumbles lost, 5 sacks on NE QBs, Pitiful offense of  38 yds  passing
84 yds rushing

MacPherson will have to undergo surgery, but a date hasn't  been set yet.
Hodson was hurt and will be out possibly for the rest of the season.  Zolak
will start Sunday against Indy.  Millen is scheduled to start throwing again
today, but there's no word on when he'll be ready to play again.
Hermann (?), a guy who started a game for the Colts this year but was waived 
later, may be signed on as a backup QB.

Saints owner Tom Benson, chairman of the owners' finance committee, said
that the Pats can't be moved from New England.  He said that Pats owner
Orthwein signed an agreement that he has to keep the team in New England.

Take Care,
 
John 



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            
John Brennan 

a750288@pan.mc.ti.com
From: caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFC Central Week 10
Date: 9 Nov 1992 05:38:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4


Minnesota 35 Tampa Bay 7

	Minnesota's tough defense crushed Tampa, as they scored 2 TD's this
	week for the second straight week. Offense played well enough to
	score 3 TD's.

New York Giants 27 Green Bay 7 

	Green Bay played well for 3 quarters, but the Giant D took control
	and picked off Favre 3 times to end the Packer threat.
	*Side note- LT out for season with Achilles tendon injury.

Dallas 37 Detroit 3

	Dallas destroys the hapless Lions. Didnt see many highlights of
	this game other than Emmitt running in for 3 TD's.

Cincinnati 31 Chicago 28 OT

	Bears blow another 4th quarter lead, and again loses at home.


CURRENT NFC Central Stadings:

Minnesota 	7-2
Chicago		4-5
Tampa Bay	3-6
Green Bay	3-6
Detroit		2-7

Notes: Minnesota running away with the division, has 3 game lead in standings
       and effectively a 4 game lead on the Bears with Vikes winning both
       head to head games. Minnesota heads home to play a tough Oiler
       team that had an off day today. Should be a great game, and a good
       test for the new Vikings.

       Mark Gresbach
       GO VIKINGS!
From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: MORE GIANTS ANTI-WOOF
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:27:02 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Med

In article <96461@netnews.upenn.edu> (Satish Nair) writes:
>
>ROD RUST PLAY LINEBACKER REPLACING INJURED LT.

Now we know who to blame! You just had to post this last line! :-(
---
          Larry Simmons                        larry@aecom.yu.edu
  Research Information Technology        ...!{uunet,att}!alsys1!larry
Albert Einstein College of Medicine   ...!meadowlnds!sec_227!row_7!seat_19!me

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From: meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Meskes)
Subject: HELP: One more result of Dave's pool needed
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  9 Nov 92 13:07:57 GMT

Last week I posted that I needed the results and the standings of Dave's
pool. Due to some luck (in our house we had backups of some of them) and
some help (I received some of the files via mail) I got most of
them back. The only one I'm missing is the result and standing of week 9.
I know they're on r.s.f.p., but at least our version of these files in
r.s.f.p. is out of order. So if anyone could extract them and mail them to me
I would be happy. Thanks in advance.

Michael

P.S.: James Weid, I wanted to send you a personal 'Thank you', but you won't
believe it, I've deleted your email adress. 
-- 
Michael Meskes, Lehrstuhl fuer angewandte Mathematik insb. Informatik,
RWTH-Aachen, Ahornstr. 55, D-W-5100 Aachen
Email: meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Cardinals
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:30:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.003701.4743@coopsol.com> gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dallas is the only team with a winning record
>that hasn't lost to a team with a losing record.

1. Consider yourself corrected (Aints).

2. What would you infer from this?  That the Bowboys are so disciplined
that they don't let up, or something?  At first glance, it seems like
a "so what" stat...
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
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