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From: desouza@math.berkeley.edu (Paulo de Souza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.hardware,alt.sys.sun,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Help with Transcript 3.0
Date: 3 Sep 1992 19:52:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: math.berkeley.edu


I am having a few headaches trying to install Transcript 3.0 on a 
SUN Sparc 2 to drive a Apple Laser Writer IIf, and I was wondering
if anybody could give me a hand. I tried Adobe (for 2 weeks) and
no success whatsoever....

First I had a lot of problems getting the right PPD (PS Printer
Description file) from Adobe, but now I have it and this part 
seems to be fine. But whenever I try to print a file with more
than 1 page I get an error from the printer, logged in the log-file:

	psbanner: tupan.berkeley.edu:paulo  Job: printcap  Date: Wed Sep 2...
	psdman: tupan.berkeley.edu:paulo guta start - Wed Sep  2 22:26:45 1992
	psif: tupan.berkeley.edu:paulo guta start - Wed Sep  2 22:26:46 1992
	WARNING: Check spooled PostScript for control characters.
	psif: printer sync problem [2] ()
	psif: printer sync problem [3] ()
	psif: end - Wed Sep  2 22:27:10 1992

Small PS files print fine, bu I cannot print anything with more than one 
page, even though the PS files print elsewhere just fine.

The problem has been tracked down, by a couple o people on the net, to an
error in one of the PROMS of the Laser Writer, for which Adobe has issued
a fix in the files "pscomm.bsd". And one of them even sent me the "patch"
file for the fix, but the patch file is for version 2.9 of the pscomm.bsd
file and what I have is ver 3.0, so the patch is no good. I tried to patch
it by hand, using commom sense, the new pscomm.c compiled fine but IT STILL
DOES NOT WORK.

Does anybody out there knows what is going on, and can give me some clues .. ?

Paulo de Souza
desouza@math.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin
From: kenh@leps5.phys.psu.edu (Ken Hornstein)
Subject: Re: biff not biffing
Organization: Penn State, Laboratory for Elementary Particle Science
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:34:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.211845.21326@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:
>In <1992Aug29.202158.22016@europa.asd.contel.com> pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe) writes:
>
>>commented out comsat in /etc/inetd.conf and sent a kill -1 to inetd
>>and then uncommented comsat and sent another kill -1.
>
>>The comsat daemon was out to lunch for some reason.  This is a common
>>problem on machines which handle a lot of mail, since the comsat
>>daemon can tend to get confused at to what state it's in when a SIGHUP
>>to inetd comes along.
>
>I have seen this same behavior with other daemons started from inetd,
>and I suspect that the bug is in inetd.  It apparently assumes that
>a particular daemon is running when it rereads its config file and then
>refuses to start another one.

I've seen this happen before with tftpd.  At our site we use tftpd to download
fonts to our X terminals.  More than once I was adding or deleting a service
to inetd.conf and when I sent inetd the HUP signal it refused to run tftpd
again ("Hey, why do I suddenly get the error message 'Cannot load 8x12'?").
Whoops :-)  Killing and restarting inetd fixed the problem.

--Ken
again.  I ended up haing
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: minimum swap space for SunOS 4.1.x?
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:37:02 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>"Guess it depends on what you mean by "must" be larger than
>physical ram.  If your swap ISN'T bigger than physical ram, then
>you might as well take that excess ram and toss it - it'll never get
>used.  
>
>Suns pre-allocate space for text.

If that means "Suns pre-allocate swap space for text", 'tain't so under
4.x.  SunOS 4.x only pre-*reserves* swap space for regions of the
address space that are mapped copy-on-write to a file *and* that are
marked writable.

Yes, the text of a demand-paged executable, as well as the text of
a shared library, is mapped copy-on-write to the file.  Yes, it is
marked writable *if* the run-time loader has to do relocation on it, but
even then, once it's done any necessary relocation, it marks it
read-only again, which causes the reservation to be withdrawn (modulo
bugs).

BSS space and "sbrk" space also has swap space allocated to it.

So, if your swap space is smaller than the physical RAM, you won't
*necessarily* be unable to use all the physical RAM; it can still be
used for stuff not mapped copy-on-write to files and not
BSS/"malloc()"ed/SV shared memory (for example, for pages read
from/written to files).  You will, however, have problems if some
application wants all of it for BSS or "malloc()"ed stuff.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: czei@musclefish.com (Michael Czeiszperger)
Subject: UUCP grades
Organization: Muscle Fish
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:51:04 GMT


Hi --

I'm trying to set the UUCP grade so that during the day email is sent
out and received, but netnews is ignored.  I've tried setting the
grade to N, and it only transfers netnews, but will only dial if
there is email to send.  If no-one has sent email offsite, it won't
dial our next node to collect email that may be waiting for people.

IS there a grade that will allow only email transfers, but won't
bomb-out if there's no local email to send?

THanks,
From: hliao@zeus.calstatela.edu (Henry Liao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Summary: 14.4k modem on Sun 4/380
Keywords: high speed modem, sun, communication
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:39:21 GMT
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles

In article <1992Aug27.131153.2535@nic.csu.net>, hliao@zeus.calstatela.edu (Henry Liao) writes:
|> 	Here is a query to the wisdom of Sun administrators on the net.
|> I've connected a 14.4k data/fax modem w/ V.{32,32bis,42,42bis} and MNP2-5
|> on a Sun 4/380 running 4.1.2.
|> 
|> Question 1:
|> How should I configure /etc/{ttytab,gettytab} for the optimal throughput?
|> I tried 'Auto-baud' and various baud rates on the Sun, but my 386PC w/ a
|> similar 14.4k modem (supports all compression protocols) always negotiate to
|> 14.4k.  It doesn't matter if the speed is set to 9600-57600 on either ends.
|> 
|>...deleted...
	Many thanks to those who responded.  I haven't tried netfax yet,
but will summarize later if interests arise.

Here is what I've done to get it to work.

Configure the modem on the Sun w/ the following options (prefix w/ AT):
&Q5	Configured for V.42/V.42 bis operation
%C1	Enable MNP class 5 operation
\J0	Turn off DTE baud rate adjustment

Create an entry in /etc/ttytab:
ttyj0	"/usr/etc/getty new.19200"	dialup		on hardcar remote

I use a rotary table for testing of various speeds in /etc/gettytab:

n1200|new.1200|NDial-1200:\
	:sp#1200:ht:ms=crtscts:nx=d2400:
...
n19200|new.19200|NDial-19200:\
	:sp#19200:ht:ms=crtscts:nx=d38400:
n38400|new.38400|NDial-38400:\
	:sp#38400:ht:ms=crtscts:nx=d1200:

kill	-1 1	# to restart ttys


-Henry Liao					o
California State University, Los Angeles	 )>
Networks & Distributed Systems Group	     ___./]___
VOICE:	(213) 343-4537, 343-4530	hliao@calstatela.edu
FAX:	(213) 343-4575			hliao@csula.bitnet
#include <std/disclaimer.h>
From: was@gdwb.oz.au (Warren Stokes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 Tapes
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:57:47 GMT

tyen@cs.utexas.edu (Anthony Yen) writes:


>I just want to double check things before I tell my purchaser that he
>botched up a tape order...

>How can I tell if a Sony data grade 8mm tape is rated for 5 Gb
>capacity?  I have tapes that come in these opaque white cases, and the
>tape shell has orange lettering on them.  The tape length is listed at
>112 metres, and the tape designation is QG-112M.  Earlier discussions
>indicated that doubling the tape length parameter to dump will take
>care of moving to 5 Gb tapes, but is the actual physical length of the
>tape doubled or is the tape density increased?

>I'm pretty sure I got 2 Gb tapes when I asked for 5 Gb tapes, through
>empirical tests where I used the same dump commands as I've always
>used before, only doubling the tape length parameter.  I just ran the
>dumps until the drive complained of EOT, then tallied up the capacity
>of the volumes dumped, and arrived at around 2.3 Gb.

The way the helical scan works the tapes are written at the same density
whether 5 G or 2.3 G.  Therefore the tapes used for 2.3 G are the same
as those used for 5 G.  The "linear" density of the bits has not increased -
just more of the tape is used.

Confusing isn't it.


-- 
Warren Stokes			Geelong & District Water Board
Phone: +61 52 262598		61-67 Ryrie St Geelong
Fax:   +61 52 218236		Victoria 3220 Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
From: steve@ibx.com (Steve Giuliano)
Subject: FOR SALE: Pyramid Servers
Organization: Independence Blue Cross
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 16:19:05 GMT

Independence Blue Cross has two MIServer and one 9825 series Pyramid
servers available for resale.  Hardware specifications for each server
are as follows:

Pyramid 9825
------------

  CPU's	: 2
  IOP's : 5
  TPE's : 1
  
  Memory: 48mb

  Disk  : 4 - NEC2352 (~600mb)
	: 8 - NEC2363 (~1.2gb)

  Tape 	: 1 - HP 1/2" 9-track

  3 cabinets


MIServer (#1)				MIServer (#2)
-------------				-------------

  CPU's : 4				CPU's : 4
  IOP's : 8				IOP's : 4
  TPE's : 3				TPE's : 4
  
  Memory: 128mb				Memory: 96mb
 
  Disk  : 15 - NEC2363 (~1.2gb)		Disk  : 10 - NEC2363 (~1.2gb)
 
  Tape  : 2 - HP 1/2" 9-track		Tape  : 2 - HP 1/2" 9-track
					      : 2 - Exabyte 2300
  5 cabinets
  					3 cabinets


Additional information on hardware/software configuration and system
availability can be obtained by contacting:

  Steven Giuliano

  Independence Blue Cross	Internet: steve@IBX.COM
  1901 Market Street		Uunet   : ...!smw002!steve
  Philadelphia, Penna. 19103    Voice   : 215/241-4296

Pricing and additional purchasing information can be obtained by
contacting:

  Change Lee

  Independence Blue Cross       Internet: maint@IBX.COM
  1901 Market Street            Uunet   : ...!smw002!maint
  Philadelphia, Penna. 19103    Voice   : 215/241-4231
From: hoepfner@usun01.UUCP (Andreas Hoepfner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Re: Vdisk gives funny messages
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:39:46 GMT
Organization: Nixdorf Computer AG, Paderborn, Germany

In <79654@yarra.pyramid.com.au> kenj@yarra.pyramid.com.au (Ken McDonell) writes:

>hoepfner@usun01.UUCP (Andreas Hoepfner) writes:

>> The size of a vdisk in /etc/dktab must be a multiple of 8 !
>> Check this with 'dkconfig -lv /dev/vdisk16'.

>At the risk of picking nits, this is not strictly correct.  The rules
>are more like ...

>1. For stripe and mirror vdisks, all pieces must be the same size.

Of course ! I think this is well known....

>2. If you are using the vdisk as a raw device (e.g. for a DBMS product,
>   rather than a file system), there are no more rules!

>3. For a file system with a file system block size of N Kbytes (the default
>   N for OSx and DC/OSx is 16), then the total vdisk size must be a multiple
>   of N kbytes.             |
			     |
			     |---- Yes, standart 8 units (blocks).
			     |
>And remember that vdisk sizes in /etc/dktab are given in units of 2 Kbytes
>for OSx and 512 bytes for DC/OSx.

(...deleted stuff...)

4. In an striped vdisk the size must be a multiple of the cluster
   size.

5. .....

Shure that there are many more rules (interleaved vdisks) but I just
wanted to help in this case, nevertheless I'm interested in Your
tools. How can I get 'em ?
Beginning in 10/1/92 I'm working at PYRAMID in Germany (Muenchen).

Andreas


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
From: dan@peach.bae.bellcore.com (Daniel Mindler)
Subject: ar/ld Limits 
Keywords: ar ld
Reply-To: dan@bae.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:29:46 GMT

We're running OSx 5.1, and I was wondering if anyone knew of limits
to ar/ld;

	1 - Maximum number of .o's / archive
	2 - Maximum number of externals / archive
	3 - Maximum number of externals / .o
	4 - Maximum number of archives that can be given to ld

	5 - Are these limits pyramid/vendor specific or standard
	6 - If there are limits, would these be changing in SVR4

Thanks!

Xref: sparky comp.sys.pyramid:193 aus.pyramid:16
From: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie)
Subject: Installing SCSI Exabyte 8500
Summary: How do you install SCSI Exabyte 8500's on MIS server
Keywords: SCSI Exabytes
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 00:58:05 GMT

We have a MIS 4/4 with a SCSI interface.  We are trying to install a Exabyte
8500 to it (Using the single ended interface !). The machine is running 5.1a
92a030 (Osx).

When the machine boots, it won't see any devices at SCSI ID 0 but will see
any other SCSI ID's. But when it sees the device (Exabyte 8500) it 
identifies it as a "Unknown SCSI disk, with unknown partitions" (And some
other garbage as well).  For example a tape with SCSI 1 is recognised
as sdisk09a.

Why is it identifing the device as a disk and not a generic tape ??. What
should the entry in the iost_conf.c be.  I know there is one for a generic 
8500 drive.  Why is this not working.

The following is some of the ios_conf.c defining a Exabyte 8500:

 /* Exabyte EXB-8500 */
	 {
	 (STPF_VARIMODE  |       /* Device Characteristic Flags */
	  STPF_LONGERASE |
	  STPF_MEDIALOCK |
	  STPF_NOINIT    |
	  STPF_SOFTRETRY),
	 &Exabyte8500_dmsp,      /* Default Mode Select Params */
	 30,                     /* Fast Timeout Time (secs) */
	 45*60,                  /* Slow Timeout Time (secs) */
	 12,                     /* Additional Sense Key Byte addr */
	 13,                     /* Extended Add'l Sense Key addr */
	 16,                     /* Extended Sense Byte count */
	 13,                     /* Extended Sense start byte address */
	 &stiExabyte8500tab,     /* Additional Sense Error Table */
	 0x14,                   /* Low Density Speed Code */
	 0,                      /* High Density Speed Code */
	 2,                      /* EOT Filemarks */
	 0,                      /* EOT Unload Code (0 = unsupported) */
	 0,                      /* WFM immed code */
	 0,                      /* WFM immed byte address */
	 0,                      /* Auto Retension Code */
	 0,                      /* Auto Retension Code byte address */
 	 0,			 /** Save mode select param page code */
	 0,                      /* Save mode select param page addr */
	 20*12,                  /* SCSI Busy status retry count */
	 5,                      /* Busy retry inteval time (secs) */
	 0,                      /* Spares */
	 0,
	 0,
	 0,
	 0,                      /* Maximum Retry count */
         EXABYTE8500,            /* Tape Type Index */
         "Exabyte EXB-8500 8mm Hel", /*"EXABYTE EXB-8500-85Qanx0",*/ /* I nquiry Name, bytes 8 to 31 */
	}



The exabyte drives have been in  use on a SUN workstation for several 
months so I know they are working fine.





Thanks in advance



-- 
Rob Logie                         | The opions expressed are mine alone and in
AOTC  ( A.C.N. 051 775 556 )      | no-way reflect the views or policies of the
TNE Computer Support Services     | Australian and Overseas Telecommunications
EMAIL: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au| Corporation. "These are my opinions alone"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid,aus.pyramid
From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Subject: Re: Installing SCSI Exabyte 8500
Keywords: SCSI Exabytes
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:50:52 GMT

In article <peter.714875681@suite.sw.oz.au> peter@suite.sw.oz.au (Peter Bestel) writes:
>In <1992Aug24.005805.6351@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au> logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie) writes:
>
>>We have a MIS 4/4 with a SCSI interface.  We are trying to install a Exabyte
>>8500 to it (Using the single ended interface !). The machine is running 5.1a
>>92a030 (Osx).
>
>What do you mean by the "single ended interface"?
>
Single-ended as opposed to differential SCSI.  Our MIS-2 is single
ended as well, and we are getting ready to put an Exabyte drive
on it, so this thread is very interesting to me...

Deletions...

>                  Using the sysadm front-end, it's real easy to
>add new devices - took me 5 minutes to add an exabyte several
>nights ago - you just have to make sure that you assign the next
>available SCSI id. If the Pyramid you have has an internal QIC
>type drive, that device is normally at SCSI (if it's a SCSI
>device!) id 0.

(Don't forget to add any SCSI disk drives as well.  They should be
SCSI device 1, 2, etc.)  What is the sysadm front-end?  This sounds
like the 3B2 sysadm menus, but I don't see any trace of anything
like that on our Pyramid.  Our machine has drivers for the Exabyte
8200 but *not* the 8500.  Maybe that is your trouble?

Deletions...

-- 
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From: rweiss@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Ron Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Re: network time applications for DCOSx
Keywords: dcosx, time
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:55:31 GMT
Reply-To: rweiss@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Ron Weiss)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <1992Aug20.213820.16201@den.mmc.com> dave@netmgr.mmc.com (David A. Rageth) writes:
>I am looking for either xntp, ntp, or timed for dcosx.  Unfortunately when
>we upgraded from OSx to DCOSx, the functionality of xntp and timed
>disappeared.  Has anyone done any work with any of these?
>

ntp is now included as part of the TCP/IP package for DC/OSx 1.1 (i.e., the
newest release of DC/OSx).



        _' ________  Ron Weiss                      
      ___    ______  Software Marketing Manager      FON:  (408) 428-8191 
    _____     _____  Pyramid Technology Corporation  FAX:  (408) 428-8050    
  _______       ___  3860 North First Street         NET:  rweiss@pyramid.com 
_________         _  San Jose, CA 95134              UUCP: pyrnova!rweiss 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
From: uemura@isl.melco.co.jp (Joe Uemura)
Subject: MIServer clusters
Organization: Mitsubishi Electric, Ofuna, Kanagawa, Japan
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:50:34 GMT

Where can I find technical information regarding the MIServer clusters 
which are supposed to be out sometime this year?

Thanks,

Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid,aus.pyramid
From: peter@suite.sw.oz.au (Peter Bestel)
Subject: Re: Installing SCSI Exabyte 8500
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:34:41 GMT
Keywords: SCSI Exabytes

In <1992Aug24.005805.6351@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au> logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie) writes:

>We have a MIS 4/4 with a SCSI interface.  We are trying to install a Exabyte
>8500 to it (Using the single ended interface !). The machine is running 5.1a
>92a030 (Osx).

What do you mean by the "single ended interface"?

>When the machine boots, it won't see any devices at SCSI ID 0 but will see
>any other SCSI ID's. But when it sees the device (Exabyte 8500) it 
>identifies it as a "Unknown SCSI disk, with unknown partitions" (And some
>other garbage as well).  For example a tape with SCSI 1 is recognised
>as sdisk09a.

How about, instead of all the other stuff you posted, you type
"ls -al /dev/ios0" and give us a look at what devices are defined
in the SCSI area. Using the sysadm front-end, it's real easy to
add new devices - took me 5 minutes to add an exabyte several
nights ago - you just have to make sure that you assign the next
available SCSI id. If the Pyramid you have has an internal QIC
type drive, that device is normally at SCSI (if it's a SCSI
device!) id 0.

So, show what's already defined in the SCSI area.

>-- 
>Rob Logie                         | The opions expressed are mine alone and in
>AOTC  ( A.C.N. 051 775 556 )      | no-way reflect the views or policies of the
>TNE Computer Support Services     | Australian and Overseas Telecommunications
>EMAIL: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au| Corporation. "These are my opinions alone"

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: chua@phage.cshl.org (Victor Chua in Krainer Lab - CSHL)
Subject: Re: HP 95LX SRAM Cards
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:35:39 GMT

falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes:

>In article <1992Sep1.175644.7736@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> ark@Office.Stanford.EDU (Arthur Keller) writes:
>>The best price I've seen on PCMCIA SRAM memory cards is from
>>tote-a-lap, 550 Pilgrim Drive, Suite #F-8, Foster City, CA  94404
>>tel 415/578-1901, fax 415/578-1914, orders 800-9-LAPTOP
>>
>>512K @ $114 ea
>>1M @ $162 ea
>>2M @ $351 ea

>Question: how are they on power consumption?  HP supposedly claims you
>should only use their special low-power cards because other cards will
>run down the HP's batteries in no time.


Answer: No visible effect. My last battery change was four weeks ago,
about the same time I received my tote-a-lap 1MB SRAM card. I tend to
go six weeks between battery changes. The battery level indicator is
now at half-mast, which experience has shown means somewhere betweeen
1/4 and 1/3 operating life left.

Victor Chua
chua@cshl.org
-- 
Victor Chua
chua@cshl.org
vwtc1@phx.cam.ac.uk

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Subject: Re: Looking for a used 95LX
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:37:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.194626.126@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>, chc@orion.ksc.nasa.gov (Charles Curley) writes:
	...
|> >I believe I saw a circular from Service Merchandise that had the 1MB 95LX
|> >for low $500 (I think it was $520-540).
	...
|> Looks like I was wrong.  Its $496.92 (according to the West Melbourne
|> Service Merchandise), and I verified (albeit over the phone and not in
|> person) that it was a 1MB model.  Catalog number is HP95LXMXP for those
|> interested.

Actually, I checked our brand-new Service Mechandise in the Mall of
America and they claim the price is $545.  (This is from a little card
on the unit and seen in person.)

$5(3,4)5 I believe. $496 seems a little low, unless industry margins
have changed a lot in the last couple of years...

Craig A. Finseth			fin@unet.umn.edu [CAF13]
Networking Services			+1 612 624 3375 desk
Computer and Information Services	+1 612 625 0006 problems
University of Minnesota			+1 612 626 1002 fax
130 Lind Hall, 207 Church St SE
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