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From: jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton)
Subject: STAR TREK SHIPS/LOCATIONS [FYI]
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: jcoper@ccu.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:08:21 GMT

Please excuse the duplicate postings.  There was a small error in the
earlier one, and I had meant to only post it to news.answers for
archival and notify the r.a.st* group about a newer posting with the
correction being available if they wanted it.  Instead, well, I just
did my normal routine without thinking.

Sorry folks.

From the wife and I, have a Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year too. :)
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From: steve@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Steven Glinberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Tasha Yar
Date: 21 Dec 92 02:43:09 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

I know this may have been asked before, but I haven't been here to see. Here
goes >  Is there anything to know about Tasha Yar returning either as Yar, or
Sela, or perhaps another character?  Damn I loved her.  

Perhaps e-mail,
thanks,

steve@picard.cs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: pierce@admiral.uucp (Clinton Pierce)
Subject: Re: Universal translaters-
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:55:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.000428.12192@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
>
>Anyway since it obviously cannot read minds being a machine, it can still
>read brain waves. If about 3 people from the same race, speak the same
>language for a few hours the universal translator will gain tons of
>gramatical rules and idioms it can use to translate from one language to the
>other.
>
Now wait.  In "Darmok", someone specifically stated that they have been unable
to translate the aliens language into anything understandable and that's why
relations with them were non existant.  (If you remember, they related
everything through metaphor.)
 
So, if the UT just taps the brain waves, why couldn't it just provide
translation on their thoughts ("Failure" = "And the Walls Came Down").  
The concept of failure was common, just the words to describe it.


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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: do we need rec.arts.startrek.dsn?
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:04:31 GMT

Windsor A. Morgan <NHT@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>A final word.  For some time I have been posting and emailing about
>what I consider misuse of rec.arts.startrek.current, as defined by
>the charter of the newsgroup.  I cannot impress upon everybody who
>reads and posts to the rec.arts.startrek.* newsgroups that they *must*
>post to the correct newsgroup.  r.a.s.current *can* work if we follow
>the rules laid down by the designers of the r.a.s.* hierarchy.  It
>*can* support discussion of two different Star Trek television shows,
>if we get rid of the chaff that does not belong in
>rec.arts.startrek.current.

	Okay, for those of us who are semi-new and not completely sure on 
the charter of each of the r.a.s.* groups, could you give a *breif*
description here? Like you said r.a.s.current is for books, episodes,
what-have-you that have appeared in the last 4 weeks (is that right?).
So, what are the others for?

	And please, no flames to read the FAQ lists
		
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From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: Babylon-5
Organization: Borland International
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:31:41 GMT

Rahim Pira (coop7z52@bnr.ca) wrote:
>  I'm posting this for the umpteenth time in hope of a response.
>  Could someone provide me with some information concerning Babylon-5?
>  Basically, what is it about and other info.  Thanks in advance.

I think you'll find a much better response to your question if you ask
it in either rec.arts.sf.tv or rec.arts.tv.  The Babylon 5 FAQ was just
cross-posted to these groups on December 9 and a list of the stations
that will be broadcasting B5 was posted on December 6.  A smattering
of information is posted with "B5" in the Subject (for easy searching)
and there is a mailing list you can subscribe to by mailing an add
request to b5-request@iastate.edu.

A couple ftp sites have Babylon 5 information, including the FAQ and
station list, GIF files, mailing list digests, etc.:

    coe.montana.edu (192.31.215.240) in /ftp/pub/TV/Guides/babylon-5
and
    ftp.hyperion.com (192.65.216.1) in /pub/Babylon-5

..wayne..
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:08:12 EST
From: Jeffrey S. Payne <JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: K'ehleyr (I think that's the spelli

In article <Bz9tCv.8Mr@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>, schamber@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca
(Sylvain Chamberland) says:

>In article <90.2b2c04a6@ivgate> kevin.karmann@ivgate.omahug.org writes:
>>
>>K'Ehylar is the mother of Worf's son, Alexander.  Alexander was
>>concieved in "The Emissary" (2nd season) and was revealed to Worf in
>>"Reunion" (4th season).  Both episodes feature Suzie Plaxon (who also
>>played Vulcan Doctor Selar) as K'Ehylar.  In the latter episode,
>>Reunion, K'Ehylar is murdered.

>Uh??

>In "Reunion", Alexander was far too tall to be only 2 years old.

>I always thought Alexander was conceived BEFORE "The Emissary".
>That's what part of the episode was about, their previous failed
>relationship.

>In you refer to the scene we did not get to see in the holodeck,
>afterwards, Worf tried to pronounce her as his wife, and she stopped him,
>saying "I was not ready then, I'm not ready now either" or something like
>that...

>Anyone who got a better memory?

My $.02:

There has been some debate as to what a stardate is.  Some say that a star
"year" (1 season, 1000 stardates) is 365 earth days, where others say 1
stardate is 24 hours.  If you take the latter, there are just under 3 years a
season, which could make Alexander 6-8 yrs old in 2 seasons.  The same argument
could be used to explain the dramatic age difference in Molly O'brien in one
season.  (Miles' and Keiko's daughter)

Makes sense to me.

Jeff Payne
Penn State Ogontz Campus              |Bitnet:   JSP6@PSUVM
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       -Q to Amanda in "True Q", ST-TNG
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Possible early viewing of ST:TNG
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:10:25 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Dec18.131229.32293@uvmark.uucp> todd@uvmark.uucp (Todd Cooper) writes:
<In article <4592@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<>
<>Acting upon a suggestion that I have been putting forth to our local station,
<>WISC-TV3, Madison, WI, we may get ST:TNG moved from Sat 10:30pm (the Saturday
<>AFTER the uplink) to Sun at 11pm (the Sunday OF the uplink).
<
<Hmmm, maybe I should this with the Boston station WCVB-5 which shows a *REPEAT*
<of the previous week Sunday at 11:30 PM after showing it the Saturday before at
<7 PM.  The Saturday 7PM could be the repeat and if they get the uplink at the
<same time, 11:30 PM Sunday would not be too difficult.

The soonest the station could air the same weekend as the uplink is Sunday
at 6pm.  They could not air it on Saturday.
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From: johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson)
Subject: Re: Star Trek GIF's?
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.binaries.pictures.d
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:10:53 GMT

In article <1geo3vINN8n7@agate.berkeley.edu>, alsu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alan
Su) wrote:
> 
> (I hope I'm posting this to the right newsgroups...)
> Does anyone know of an anonymous FTP source out there for Star Trek (the
> Next Generation or otherwise) GIF's?  Thanks in advance.

There's gotta be some way to beam FAQ lists into everyone's personal
directory all over the world.  Some questions are so frequent it's almost
comical.

But, so I might catch the other 63276264329 people who were going to post
this question tonight: the site is pdq.coe.montana.edu.

Hugh W. Johnson (johnsh@rpi.edu)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Troy, New York
From: dgreen@thor (David Greenebaum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TNG "How to Host a Mystery"
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:39:23 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.berkeley.edu

Recently, I participated in a "How to Host a Mystery" party based on
the characters and setting of ST:TNG.  (It was put out by the "How to
Host a Murder/How to Host a Mystery" people, and should be available
in games stores near you--price around US$30, I think.)  The setup is
that eight characters (Riker, Geordi, Data, Dr. Crusher, Troi, Worf,
Ensign Ro, and Guinan--4 men, 4 women) are gathered for a celebration
banquet (an excuse to have the party and serve dinner), when it is
discovered that a Very Important Thing has been stolen.  (I'm
trying hard not to give away significant details, in case anyone wants
to play this...)  It's up to the eight people, using the information
they know (provided in character-booklets) to figure out Who Did What--
while keeping in mind that Whoever It Was is probably going to try to
misdirect the others, and cast suspicion on someone else.

I found the game enjoyable, but more in keeping with the "How to Host"
tradition than the ST:TNG tradition.  The "HtH" practice of using
bad-punning names whenever possible was followed: some of the characters
we encountered were named Di Lithium, Rhom Eulan, and Cyrus "Cy" Phi.
The mystery, as it evolved and unfolded, became so tangled and complex
that I doubt any mere mortal could actually figure out precisely What
Went On from merely the evidence presented--but then, who really
expects to solve the mystery before the writer?  The greatest fun in
these mysteries comes from roleplaying--and in that, I found the game
of spotty quality.  The basic premise (that someone on the Enterprise
crew would do such a naughty thing) is incompatible with the tenor of
the show.  The game writers provide a way around that, but it's really
kind of shaky.  The interactions between characters _can_ be a lot of
fun, though.  (In the group I was with, the people playing Will and
Deanna weren't Trek fans, but everyone else was...Data was especially
amusing, when he got off a few snide comments in his typical matter-of-
fact voice...)

General evaluation:  If you're a REAL hard-core Trek fan, who can't
stand to see anyone mess with the Canon or the characterizations, this
game is not for you.  If you've always wanted to play Data/Guinan/Ro
and see what it's like, go for it.  If you like "How to Host" mysteries,
this one's as good as any of 'em.  I had a good time just hanging out
with my friends and roleplaying.  (BTW, I was Worf; made my own false
forehead, grew a beard, and all.  I always go way overboard on the
costumes...)

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From: aaronm@ccmail.orst.edu (Mithran Aaron)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Dr. Pulaski
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:24:41 GMT
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In article <1992Dec16.230809.18595@husc3.harvard.edu> cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone) writes:
>From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
>Subject: Dr. Pulaski
>Date: 17 Dec 92 04:08:09 GMT
>What is the general consensus on the net regarding Dr. Pulaski?  Would
>anyone like to see an episode in which she guest stars?  What is the
>reason her character left the show (not Diana Muldaur, that I know, but
>the reason, plot-wise, why Dr. Pulaski left?)  I thought that "Ethics"
>might have been a pretty good episode had the writers subsitituted
>Dr. Pulaski for the unethical doctor.  It might have made for
>some interesting interactions between Pulaski and Crusher, and would
>have been in character for both of them.  Comments?
>
>Chris


I for one would never like to see her again.
From: irwin@iago.caltech.edu (Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: "Visit to a Weird Planet"
Date: 18 Dec 1992 11:11 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec18.161211.20887@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, gkatz@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz) writes...
>Marshak and Culbreath have got to be the absolute worse authors
>of any Star Trek novel.  Their idolization of Spock is only made worse
>by their complete loathing for Kirk.
> 
Hey, you want to flame their novels, go ahead...but the New Voyages collections
were anthologies with different authors, that were edited by Marshak and
Culbreath.  As I recall, one of my favorite Trek stories was in one of those
two volumes...the one where Kirk was "mind-sifted" by the Klingons and sent
back to 1950s Earth using the Guardian of Forever.
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Clinton and Trek
Date: 17 Dec 1992 22:06:50 GMT
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In <1992Dec16.163647.18572@husc3.harvard.edu> cstone@husc8.harvard.edu writes:

> In article <1gnrhuINNgph@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
> >In <1992Dec14.221706.18492@husc3.harvard.edu> cstone@husc8.harvard.edu writes:
> >
> >[just gobs of stuff deleted]
> >
> >> watchful eye of Gary Seven's race prevented full-fledged biological
> >> and nuclear war.  (IMHO, the post-atomic horror was probably a very
> >> localized occurrance in one or two cities, probably in Asia (Korea?) or the
> >
> >  I doubt Asia.  Everyone there was awfully caucasion-looking to me.  And I
> >think you may be confued about "Omega Glory".  I definetly recall Spock
> >saying to Kirk something to the effect that  "apparently they had the war
> >your ancestors avoided...", meaning a nuclear war, we all suppose.  It still
> >explains nothing about the post atomic horror (which, for all we know occured
> >on some Earth colony world -- it's been a while since I saw the episode.
> 
> I must agree that there was never any nuclear war on Earth, since a) there
> is canonical evidence to the contrary and b)such a war might well wipe
> out homo sapiens!  We are left with how to explain the post-atomic 
> horror.  I suspect it didn't occur on a colony because nukes were 
> probably abolished by the time massive space colonization occurred, and
> also because Data referred to the "New United Nations" on EaF.

  Ahh, but in some TOS episodes (_Space Seed_) and I think a TNG ep or two,
I have heard characters speak of the "chaotic" nature of the times, and how
records were lost, etc. in reference to "lost" colonizing expeditions.  Some 
colonists may have left Earth with nukes, founded a world, advanced a good 
ways, and then had a war to create the "horror" we saw in EaF.  These people 
were later found by the Feds...


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: lloyd@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Lloyd Chandler)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:00:15 GMT
Subject: A couple StarTrek poems...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
From: "peter tindall" <peter.tindall@canrem.com>
Subject: sex, the final frontier?
Reply-To: "peter tindall" <peter.tindall@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:14:21 EST


12-18-92 - 11:03

In <154#bbx.basis.com> anewton@bbx.basis.com (Allen J. Newton) writes:


AJ>    Okay, I usually overlook things like this, but:

AJ>    1)  Martin Landau, Barbara Bain and BARRY Morse did not star on "Lost
  >        in Space", it was Space:1999

The Series/Pilot was released under different names in different 
countries...

Regards,

Peter Tindall

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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: RIKER, KIRK'S SON
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:58:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.140426.7014@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> ees1mw@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK (Mike Willis) writes:
>In article <latarra.724353835@camelot> latarra@camelot.bradley.edu (Lisa Ehren) writes:
>>In <Bz8C2J.Cw@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> dkgardin@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Dan Gardiner) writes:
>>>    Well now, Riker being Kirk's son was an interesting theory, if not for the
>>> fact that Riker's father has already appeared on the show (can't remember the
>>> episode, but it was during the second season) and it most definitely was not
>>> Kirk.
>>
>>Well, wouldn't Kirk be a little old...like a hundred, when Riker was born,
>>anyway?
>>
>Plus the fact that his name is Riker and not Kirk!


"Riker" is a phonetic misspelling of "Roykirk".

(You know, Jackson T. Roykirk.  The "T" stands for "Theremin")
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From: s_goetz@irau29.ira.uka.de (Oliver Goetz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: ST:TNG Seasons 1-3 in stereo?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:07:20 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

This might seem to be a silly question, but since 
someone in rec.arts.tv.uk claims that seasons 1-3
were only produced in mono (he says he has bought 
some video tapes which were mono) I'd like to have
this sorted out.

My understanding always was that TNG always was in 
stereo and that it is in Dolby Surround since season 4.

However, the BBC had it in mono, Sky One has it in mono
(they say that's because thei got their tapes from the BBC),
and the German ZDF has it in mono.


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From: kboss35@ursa.calvin.edu (Karen Boss)
Subject: Re: Other Shows or Movies
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:15:37 GMT

mazzolav@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Schlomo) writes:

>	I was wondering if there are any other movies that the cast of TNG has done.  Trivia Question:  What movie was Patrick Stewart in before doing TNG?

>Andrew Mazzola

I forgot to mention that Gates McFadden (Dr. Crusher) has been in one of the    Muppet's movies (I think it was the Great Muppet Caper).  She played Dabney    Colman's Secretary.  She also played Alec Baldwin's wife in The Hunt for Red   October.
LaVar Burton hosts a children's show called Reading Rainbow.
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: RIKER, KIRK'S SON
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:01:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <2495.3057.uupcb@synapse.org> brian.young@synapse.org (Brian Young)  writes:
>A friend of my has the following hypothesis...
>
>Hypothesis:
>
>    William T. Riker is Kirk's Son
>
>Comments?

	The Icarus Factor.
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