HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: RSIU42A@SAUPM00.BITNET (Trevor D. Rotzien)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: An alternative to Burroughs,1986?
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:39:56 GMT
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Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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              17 Nov 1992 11:39:45 +0100 from <wigeosta@WU-WIEN.AC.AT>

Thanks Petra for Star & Estes. I think potentially the best alternative
to Burroughs, 1986, will be Burroughs, 1993.  Is anyone aware of the
actual release date?  Will it be available pre-October 1993?

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trevor d. rotzien         marine science group
k.f.u.p.m. box 118        water resources & environment division
dhahran 31261             the research institute
saudi arabia              king fahd university of petroleum & minerals

email: rsiu42a@saupm00.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:09:48 -0500
From:         "Theodore B. Samsel" <tbsamsel@DG11SVARMD.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject:      Explaining GIS to non-techies

  During December, some students who are working on their certification
in Earth Science Education (grad level) will be visting our office.
Does anyone know of any non-technical, applications oriented pub(s)
that might be appropriate to use as hand outs? I feel that the
NGCIA pubs would be way over their heads in explaining GIS to them.
  Please reply to my e-mail address.
  Regards,
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Ted Samsel.......TBSAMSEL@QVARSA.ER.USGS.GOV..(use this!)
From: mtitus@umsa.umd.edu (Marvin A. Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: PC dBase mapping software
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:26:16 GMT

I use Atlas Pro (Strategic Mapping Inc., 3135 Kifer Road, Santa Clara,
CA 95051-9901,  408 970-9600)
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:02:03 CST
From:         Phil Chaney <phil@SPOCK.UARK.EDU>
Subject:      RE: gps and street mapping
              92 4:13 pm

In regard to your need for a contour map with tolerance of .2meters:

> The options open are:
>
> (i)   Hire a total station, and trot around the streets of York, dodging
>       hoards of tourists and Christmas shoppers (electric fence and/or
>       weapons may be required to keep tourists from knocking station!)
> (ii)  Purchase SPOT image of the city, and generate DTM from there through
>       GRASS
> (iii) Hire GPS (multiple units?) and create DTM using them and multiple fixed
>       base stations.
>

Option 1: Unless you already have experience in using this equipment for
          making a contour map (and I am not talking about just turning
          angles and measuring distances), then I would forget about this
          option for mapping an urban area. $$$ Hire a professional $$$

Option 2: Not accurate enough for your purpose (as mentioned by another
          caller)!

Option 3: You will need survey quality gps receivers (3 minimum) to get
          started for establishing control points. The bottom line on gps
          in an urban area is that multipath errors (signals bouncing off
          of building walls) eliminates gps as a reasonable means of
          collecting data for a contour map. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

          * The way the professionals do it is to use gps to establish
          a network of horizontal and vertical control points, and then
          use traditional survey methods (total stations) to do the grunt
          work. The best option is to forget about the total stations, and
          use the gps control points to ortho-rectify aerial photography.
          Photogrammetry techniques can then be used to derive a contour map
          from the aerial photos. $$ We are talking big bucks here. $$$

If .2 meter precision is this critical, then I strongly suggest that you
reconsider the Ordinance Survey data! If this work has already been done,
then it may be worth your while to work out a deal with them because what
you are proposing could get very time consuming and expensive! Anything less
will probably not satisfy your needs, unless you can re-evaluate your needs.

Good Luck,

Phil
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From: kclarke@RESDGW6.ER.USGS.GOV ((Keith C. Clarke))
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: Pricing of digital map products
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:32:08 GMT
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              products" (Nov 13,  2:35pm)

Netters may be interested in :
Rhind, D. "Data access, charging and copyright and their implications
for geographical information systems", International Journal of GIS,
vol.  6, no. 1, pp. 13-30.

Just to get the discussion going on this list, I volunteer the
following:

Geographic BASE data is the ultimate public good. There is almost
NO finiancial incentive to make continuous digital map coverages
to a consistent standard. On the other hand, the public (and commercial)
benefits to having the data available are immense.

Again, to get discussion going:

Those folks in the U.K. and Ireland who are complaining about data
costs. Use US data. Its good, free, consistent, and often available
over Internet, as is the software to display it. At the same time,
write to the officials in Government who are limiting access to the
data and let them know your wishes.

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Please note: This is a personal opinion of a U.S. College Professor,
and does NOT reflect the position of the USGS, the Dept. of Interior,
or the U.S. Government.
kclarke@everest.hunter.cuny.edu    Keith Clarke
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Textbook costs
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:42:10 GMT

In article <921117.071128.SAT.RSIU42A@SAUPM00.BITNET>
RSIU42A@SAUPM00.BITNET (Trevor D. Rotzien) writes:
>Are university texts really that expensive to produce??

Yes.
The biologist Garrett Hardin wrote an editorial in Science years ago on
this crisis.  It is a problem which is not getting resolved.

I just paid $150 for a text book (and it wasn't the Manual of Remote Sensing).
And I wasn't even taking a class.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:46:26 -0500
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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: GIS Applictions in Forestry - Second Request

Have you ever contacted prof. winter at DLR Oberpfaffenhofen where a lot of
forest damage analysis has been done...? Results are published in their
institute's proceedings and shown on TUeK 1:200 000 for South of Germany...
Also, FIS of Harz mountains is on-going at TUB & TUD, it's nearby Goettingen.
You should take into account too. BMFT is sponsoring a lot of moneys, btw.

F.H. - TUD
From: esri!fenway!jeff@UUNET.UU.NET ((Jeff Jackson))
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: For Gene and Gary
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:13:33 GMT
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Gene-O and Volt,

Just got an email from the Bone about the presentation Michael and I
gave at GIS/LIS (or jizless as he calls it). I guess you guys aren't the
only ones that Delorme is after:

> p.s. - dougie says that dave delorme might sue you 'cause it was his idea to
> start with the world and zoom in from there.  what a kook.

-Jeff
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:46:18 EST
From: <BLA100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Strengh of MIS degree

     I am a junior at The Pennsylvania State University, and utill recently I
 have felt that overall MIS/IS was a very strong degree to have.  Since I was
 very young I have been interested in computer systems, and technology so there
 really was no question in my mind  when I found the MIS major.  What I have
 seen though forces me to question Penn State's view's of the program.
     The first 'problem' occurred last spring, while I was scheduling for this
 fall semester.  Less than one week before scheduling was to be completed we
 (MIS majors) received a mailing containg a new course outline  for  the Jr. &
 Sr. years.  Roughly  two classes were eliminated or restructured.  I was upset
 because I was close to turning in the schedule I had (which had  courses that
 did not exist).  The next setback was three weeks into this fall when  we
 received another course change.  A course was renamed and new Support of the
 Major courses were added (Quantitative Business Analysis).
To confuse the situation, I had begun interviewing for an Internship
 through the College of BA Internship Program.  These positions start in Jan.
 and I would have to miss the Spring '93 semester.  My professor strongly dis-
 agreed with  missing the spring semester.  It seems they  were not sure when
 these classes could be offered again.  On the left people tell me"you can't
 pass up an internship"on the  right it's " don't miss the spring"...
Now, yesterday, in the 12th week of the semester a student asked if some
 rumors of  the MIS major being eliminated we true.  The answer--yes.  They
 are turning it into  a minor so all business students can  get the vital
 info.  The major  will be eliminated.  Where does this leave me?
I  have asked if I will be able to graduate and I get no guarantees.
 Should  I take the internship and hope for a job offer upon graduation?
 Is the Univ. policy a good one?  Any  thoughts/answers/solutions are apprec.
 Thanks.

Brian Andrews-- BLA100@psuvm.psu.edu
Penn State University
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From: maria@dnbf01.bram.cdx.mot.com (Maria Swietorzecki)
Subject: Electronic Documentation Storage and Retrieval
Keywords: maria
Reply-To: maria@dnbf01.bram.cdx.mot.com (Maria Swietorzecki)
Organization: Motorola Codex, Mississauga, Ontario
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:37:59 GMT

We are conducting a research on policies and procdures involved in electronic documentation handling process.  Is it possible to enjoy access to thousands of files, located on servers, effectively and without frustration?

What kind of systems, and related procedures, practices and/or standards are 
available to store and retrieve electronic technical documentation in s/w development environment (engineering documents like functional, design, test specifications, e.t.c.).

Please help us by sharing your expertise, or providing references to literature or research articels.

Thank you in advance...Brgds...Maria Swietorzecki
                               maria@dnbf01.cdx.mot.com
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From: cga66@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.v.kauffold)
Subject: Downsizing/Rightsizing Talk
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:11:54 GMT
Keywords: downsizing rightsizing talk meeting dpma networks


             Wayne Krakau Will Speak To DPMA Chapter
            on Trends and Opportunities In Networking

            Where:  Tollgate Inn, Aurora, Illinois
            When:   Thursday, December 10, 1992
                    7:45 PM

     There's a revolution under way in computer  organizations
across the country.  In increasing numbers, data processing
departments are "downsizing" or "rightsizing," moving from
mainframe computers to networks of workstations, PCs, and mid-
range systems.  Is this a fad or the irresistible wave of the
future?

     Wayne Krakau, a partner in Krakau Business Computer Systems,
Des Plaines, Illinois, will talk on Trends and Opportunities in
Networking to the Northern Illinois Chapter of the Data
Processing Management Association (DPMA), at their monthly
meeting on Thursday, December 10, 1992, at the Tollgate Inn, at
I-88 and Route 31 North, Aurora, Illinois, at 7:45 PM.

     Downsizing (or rightsizing) has become the DP buzzword for
the 90's; meaning LANs, WANs, workstations, servers, bridges,
routers, distributed processing, and client-server networks.
Some computer pros see opportunity, while others see danger; is
this a field of dreams or a minefield of nightmares?  Krakau will
focus on what it takes, and what you need to know,  to make this
compelling technology work and deliver the promised cost savings
and productivity improvements, and at the same time avoid the
pitfalls and potholes.  Krakau has been guiding companies through
this transition -- or new installation -- process since this new
wave started eight years ago.

     Krakau Business Computer Systems is a systems integration
firm and Novell Gold Authorized and Lantastic Authorized Dealer,
located at 9670 Dee Road, Des Plaines, Illinois, and may be
reached at (708) 298-7695.

     Non-members are welcome to attend the presentation at 7:45
PM at no charge.  Non-members are also welcome at an informal
cocktail hour at 6:00 PM, and the dinner at 6:45 PM at a cost of
$20.00.    To make a reservation for dinner, please call Bill
Baker at (708) 979-3938.


ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CONTACT:    Mary Smith
                                   1131 S. Batavia Avenue
                                   Batavia, IL 60510
                                   (708) 879-0482
From: carm@cs.umd.edu (Richard Chimera)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Re: MIS Career Opportunities???
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:11:44 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Nov17.173117.12025@bsu-ucs> 00llhamilton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>I am a Ball State student majoring in Management with an emphasis in 
>Information Systems.  I would like to know how demanding is MIS?  I've
>heard that this is the "wave of the future" but is it really a good field
>to get into?  Will there be a lot of opportunities in the next three to
>five years for information specialists?  What about the opportunities for
>minorities in this field?

I have heard from the undergrad students here at the U of Md that the
MIS track is the hardest in the entire business school.  Mostly  because
you have to take computer science classes and statistics classes that
the other business majors don't have to take.  That is just UMd of course.
Or are you asking about careers in MIS being demanding?  I'm sure you 
could find demanding jobs and nondemanding jobs in any field.

I feel MIS is a great field to get into now.  We're just starting the
"Information Age," and every company, govt, and household will need to
manage information quicker, more compactly, with greater breadth and depth,
social impacts, etc.  There a million subfields to study in MIS.

I know of no prejudice for or against minorities or women within the MIS
field other than that attributed to background noise (field-independent
prejudice in other words).

However, if you don't like it, then it's not a good choice to make.  If
you think you'll be truly happy in life because it's a little easier to
get a job or you'll make a few thousand more than in some other field,
that could be one of the biggest mistakes you'll ever make.  Enjoy the
work, the rest will follow.

Good luck,
+Rick

-- 
  Richard "carm" Chimera, Lab Manager   | A population of sheep will eventually
  Human Computer Interaction Lab, U Md. | beget a government of wolves.
  A.V. Williams Bldg                    |   -- William Sloan Coffin
  College Park, MD  20742-3255    USA   |
From: manent@titan.ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: NEED INFO ON IMAGE ENHANCEMENT
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:43:06 EST
Organization: NASA, Kennedy Space Center

PLEASE, I NEED SOME INFORMATION OR SOURCES OF INFORMATION ON IMAGE ENHANCEMENT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO, PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE AT:

MANENT@TITAN.KSC.NASA.GOV
OR
59228581V@SERVAX.FIU.EDU

THANKS,
DIANA MANENT
From: 00llhamilton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: MIS Career Opportunities???
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:31:17 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

I am a Ball State student majoring in Management with an emphasis in 
Information Systems.  I would like to know how demanding is MIS?  I've
heard that this is the "wave of the future" but is it really a good field
to get into?  Will there be a lot of opportunities in the next three to
five years for information specialists?  What about the opportunities for
minorities in this field?  Is there a great amount of opportunities for
minority women?  It would be helpful to hear from someone in this particular
career.  Thanks.

Lynnette
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Re: Imaging
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:05:01 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Carla Chichizola writes:

>I am currently working on a project concerning imaging, and would
like to get some information about the subject.

Wang is now shipping document imaging for PC standalones, PC LANs,
RS/6000s, VAXs, VSs and IBM IMS and CICS.  We'll be happy to ship
full information on any of these products, along with workflow
solutions and Wang Business Process Management re-engineering, to
anyone needing them.  Just send us your mailing address.

-------------------Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com----------------------

The Wang Integrated Imaging System (recently ranked as the number one
document imaging system by Computerworld) has been ported to AIX, with
equivalent or better functionality, and named OPEN/image for AIX.
Customer shipments began in September.

While "many vendors have been mimicking WIIS...., Wang has stayed ahead
by adding color and gray-scale support.  Wang is the only major
document imaging vendor to have achieved this," said Rich Barrett, manager
of the client/server component of the product.   The development group
also significantly improved the speed of black and white images.

Full information and demonstrations are now available from any
Wang office or Wang imaging business partner worldwide.
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From: droms@regulus.cs.bucknell.edu (Ralph E. Droms)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems,comp.multimedia,comp.groupware
Subject: CFP: Special Issue of "Internetworking" on Networking Support for Remote Conferencing
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:20:46
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.
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                              Call for Papers


                 Internetworking:  Research and Experience


        Special Issue on Networking Support for Remote Conferencing


Real-time  interactions  with  colleagues  through  network   communications
are rapidly  becoming  an  important  means  of  communications  as  network
technologies become  better  able to  support  such applications.     Recent
experiments with remote conferencing, such as the multicast of presentations
from the  July,   1992  meeting  of  the IETF  across  the  Internet,   have
demonstrated the viability of the technology and have pointed out new  areas
of investigation.   Remote conferencing puts  special demands on  networking
hardware and protocols:   data must  be generated,  delivered and  presented
at the  destination in  a timely  fashion.   Remote  conferencing  protocols
may prefer  to discard  out of  order or  late data  rather than  delay  the
presentation at the destination.   Multi-way  conferences may use  multicast
algorithms to minimize  the volume of  transmitted data.   Data  compression
techniques may be used to  reduce the volume of data.   The purpose of  this
special issue is  to focus  on issues and  experiences with  internetworking
support for remote conferencing, such as:



  o Multicast protocols for remote conferencing

  o Multi-media data transmission protocols

  o Data compression techniques for video and audio data on internetworks

  o Service requirements for remote conferencing data delivery

  o Experiences with remote conferencing systems


Papers submitted for this  special issue of  Internetworking:  Research  and
Experience should meet  the journal's normal  requirements for  publication.
Original papers,  not published  elsewhere or  not simultaneously  submitted
for publication elsewhere,  will be considered.   The  manuscript should  be
double-spaced, with a separate title  page including the author(s)  name(s),
affiliation(s) and  address(es).    The body  of  the manuscript  should  be
preceded by a  summary of no  more than  200 words.   Up to  five key  words
should be provided for indexing.   Four copies  of the manuscript should  be
delivered by January 15, 1993 to:


                        Professor Ralph Droms
                        Computer Science Department
               323 Dana Engineering  droms@bucknell.edu
               Bucknell University   (717) 524-1145 (office)
               Lewisburg, PA 17837   (717) 524-3760 (fax)
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- Ralph Droms                 Computer Science Department
  droms@bucknell.edu          323 Dana Engineering
  (717) 524-1145              Bucknell University
  (717) 524-3760 (fax)        Lewisburg, PA 17837
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From: "ed carroll" <ed.carroll@canrem.com>
Subject: mis/sw job database
Reply-To: "ed carroll" <ed.carroll@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:17:10 EST


For those of you in the MIS and Software Engineering fields, here is an
excellent resource to help you in your job search.  The jobs listed
require at least 1 yr work experience though.


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