HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: msoucy@madness.East.Sun.COM (Michael Soucy - Sun USOPS WSU Production)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: that's IT!
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:56:19 GMT
Reply-To: msoucy@madness.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: madness.east.sun.com

Wow! Good for you for saying your piece! Anyways, I usually don't post or reply in
this echo, just scan through the groups now and then.....catchya on the flip side!

Mike
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Subject: Re: Kathy Ireland
Originator: ssd@zeus.psrc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:15:42 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.124844.1@acad.drake.edu>, tdl001@acad.drake.edu writes:
|> Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
|> Path: taco!rock!stanford.edu!ames!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.iastate.edu!dunix.drake.edu!acad.drake.edu!tdl001
|> From: tdl001@acad.drake.edu
|> Subject: Kathy Ireland
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov16.124844.1@acad.drake.edu>
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|> Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System)
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|> Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
|> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:48:44 EST
|> 
|> 	Cindy, Cindy, Cindy, that's all I ever hear!!!!!!! I mean, c'mon she 
|> married DICK GERE for heaven's sake, yet everyone worships her as if she were
|> a goddess. She may have been something special to start with, but heck so many
|> models are copying her look these days that I can't ever look at a mag cover 
|> without having to read it and see if it really is her. Of course you see a lot
|> of other references to Elle MacPherson too, but what I want to know is....
|> 
|> Does anyone out there appreciate Kathy Ireland as much as I do?
|> 
|> 
|> 

 Me too !

	Srikant
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: happe@rei.com (Kevin Happe)
Subject: Re: that's IT!
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:27:23 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:


>jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!) writes:

>Jennifer!> Okay, I know this isn't the place for this, but I've got
>Jennifer!> something to say.  I'm absolutely disgusted with the
>Jennifer!> amounts of email I have been receiving from guys saying
>Jennifer!> "hey baby do me fuck fuck do me do me fuck do me."

>Well, when they write you messages like this, they automatically give
>you license to post their email in its entirety to this and any other
>newsgroup you care to display it on -- particularly ones where you
>seem them posting.  I'm sure they'll think it's loads of fun.

>If that gets boring, you might try getting the name of their boss or
>sysadmin and sending a letter with a hardcopy of the email attached!
>Sure to bring smiles to everyone involved.

>Fight back, Jennifer.  It's the only way for assholes like them to learn
>some manners.


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Sounds like a good idea. 
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
Subject: Re: Supermodels contribute to spiraling low self esteem?
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:20:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.182022.9195@tellab5.tellabs.com> chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) writes:
>In article <1dsbfhINN8hi@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer) writes:
>> If someone makes you feel relatively unattractive by what they say
>> or do, and then you happen to see some poster of some supermodel...

Perhaps feminists would feel better about themselves if the only pictures
in magazine ads, posters, etc. were of ugly sloppy pathetic women.  Is that
a solution to their self-esteem problems?  I doubt it.

--Brian

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!)
Subject: Re: the most beautiful women in the world
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:24:14 GMT

egilmour@ac.dal.ca writes:

>Well, here's my list of the 5 most beautiful people:

[some names deleted]

>-  Keanu Reeves;
>-  John Cussack;

Woo woo!! no argumetns here. Add Brad Pitt, Matthew Modine and James
Spader to *that* list. :)

-Jennifer!

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: good@pixar.com (The one who dies with the most toys wins)
Subject: Re: Brains of Models
Keywords: beauty and brains
Organization: Pixar - Pt. Richmond, CA USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 06:22:13 GMT

In article <By0Mt4.Dt2@access.digex.com> hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:
:
:And why are these "beauty + brains" models so hard to find?

Let me accept your assumption for the moment that they really *are* hard
to find.  A simple explanation would be that since pulchritude sufficient
for a modeling career is very rare, and intelligence sufficient to make even
dumb people say, "Say, she's smart!" is rare, finding people in the intersection
of those two sets should be a very rare occurrence.

:But seriously, it's my understanding that to succeed in modeling you
:*need* brains.  

Agreed.  Brains are naturally an asset to any career, are they not?

		--Craig
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
Subject: Re: Supermodels contribute to spiraling low self esteem?
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:22:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.185540.19815@dragon.acadiau.ca> 891666t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trish Turliuk) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov12.182022.9195@tellab5.tellabs.com> chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) writes:
>>>In article <1dsbfhINN8hi@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer) writes:
>>>> If someone makes you feel relatively unattractive by what they say
>>>> or do, and then you happen to see some poster of some supermodel...

>>Perhaps feminists would feel better about themselves if the only pictures
>>in magazine ads, posters, etc. were of ugly sloppy pathetic women.  Is that
>>a solution to their self-esteem problems?  I doubt it.

>REAL WOMEN!!! that's all- no more, no less (and for the record, how can one
>tell that an ugly and sloppy woman is *pathetic*?)

Sigh.  Perhaps you ought to try reading wqhat I wrote rather than inserting
your prejudices about what I think into my mouth.  I merely asked if 
having women in ads who were ugly AND sloppy AND pathetic, I said nothing
about whether I think that is the average woman, or that ugliness implies
being pathetic, or that sloppiness implies being pathetic.

Why is it that you are unable to understand a simple argument of this kind 
without getting side-tracked by your idea of what I must be thinking?

By the way, of what benefit would it be to the companies producing the ads if
the people portrayed were not in some sense obviously admirable?  Personally,
I WANT to be attractive, neat, stong, rich, etc.  If the message in an ad is
"Use product X and you'll be like me." and the person I see isn't what I want
to be like, why should I feel an inclination to listen further?

--Brian
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: osickey@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey)
Subject: Re: Sexual Harassment
Keywords: obnoxious behavior
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:25:47 GMT

panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:

>Discussion of sex is not evil if it is done in the context of a
>neutral power balance. Discussion of sex *is* evil if you are a
>6'5" 250-pound linebacker holding down a 5'2" 100-pound wisp of a
>woman and asking her if she wants rear entry while she tries to
>squirm out from under you and is yelling and screaming for help.

>(actually, in this case, she probably wouldn't *dare* scream...)

>"No" means NO.

>>Talking about sex, even in the most candid of terms is NOT rape.  However,

>Again, context. Talking about sex with, say, someone who has been
>raped, is *different* from talking about sex with someone who is
>unzipping your fly with one hand and unhooking her bra with her
>other hand. In the latter case, you usually talk about condoms.

    I would like to present a few very depressing statistics:

    The most over-reported (i.e. falsely) crime in the US is rape.
    The mos under-reported (silent) crime in the US is rape.
    The second most over-reported crime in the US is sexual harassment.

    What do these figures tell us?  The real problems are not being
    dealt with, while the perceived problems (unjustified) are 
    being attacked.

                                   azrael

Xref: sparky alt.supermodels:2040 soc.women:20000 alt.feminism:4757 soc.men:19636
From: ringo@icad.com (Amy Gorin)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson -- Faint Praise
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:14:18 GMT
	<BxoE1I.yr@apollo.hp.com> <BxwrDD.M7A@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
	<1992Nov18.175422.3033@dragon.acadiau.ca>
Organization: ICAD Inc., Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Nov18.175422.3033@dragon.acadiau.ca> 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie) writes:

 >Craig.Humphrey@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Craig Andrew Humphrey) writes:

 >> windoze.  
		
 >Learn to spell WINDOWS!!  You know, like the thing you look out to see
 >outside while you're indoors!  

He's not talking about holes in the wall.  He's talking about the MicroShaft
product that runs under MS-LOSS.


> ============================================================================
> The Commodore Amiga 4000 - 24 bit          16,777,216 colors (4096^2)!!    
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Oh.  Nevermind.
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: Spooky chick
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:34:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.203054.12180@pixar.com> good@pixar.com (Mein Fuehrer!  I can walk!) writes:

	   Can anybody confirm for me that I saw Michaela Bercu's name in
   the credits of "Bram Stoker's Dracula" as one of the three vampire women?

	   What an... interesting way to move from modeling into an acting
   career.

Yup, true enough.  I remember reading a short interview with her in some rag
where she made some mention of it.

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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: lynch@ils.nwu.edu (Richard Lynch)
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:49:16 GMT

In article <johnr.721842082@ee.uts.EDU.AU> johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie) writes:
>riaedwards@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (AUDREY EDWARDS) writes:
>
>>In article <johnr.721585353@ee.uts.EDU.AU> johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie) writes:
>>>From: johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie)
>>>Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
>>>Date: 12 Nov 92 16:22:33 GMT
>
>>>riaedwards@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (AUDREY EDWARDS) writes:
>
>>>>One things for certain, whilst I'm as confident as I want to be, I 
>>>>certainly would not date a man with an Elle MacPherson calandar on his 
>>>>wall! Now, a Paul Klee calandar is different (and for the culturally 
>>>>unenlightened, he is not a member of the Chippendales!!!!)   
>
>>>I do not have an Elle PacPherson calendar on my wall. I would
>>>like to, but I do not, because it would upset my girlfriend. Does that make
>>>me a Dateable Man or a Nondateable Man?
>
>>If you have a girlfriend, then definately undateable!!!!!!!
>
>I am curious to know why you would attach such importance to the
>presence of an Elle calendar on a man's wall that you
>would decide not to date him on that fact alone. Is this such
>a telling indicator about every other aspect of his personality?
>
>
>I think not...

Hello?!!!....Anybody home?!!!

'Nuff said.
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From: bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:40:14 GMT
Subject: Stephanie Seymour - seymour.gif part 3
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Height requirements
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:45:19 GMT

In <1992Nov16.173509.18479@pixar.com> good@pixar.com (Let's hear it for the sun god, he's a real fun god, Ra! Ra! Ra!) writes:


>While reading the articles on modeling, I was struck by Elite's height
>requirements because I've never pictured Kathy Irland nor Paulina Porizkova
>as quite that tall.  (I was also surprized to learn that Claudia Shiffer is 6
>feet tall, though).  If someone out there has an agency book, would they mind
>posting their stats?

>	Curious,

>		--Craig
>-- 
>	good@pixar.com

Have you seen the movie "Necessary Roughness?"  Kathy Ireland was in it.  I 
only saw it once, but I seem to remember her looking very tall (very nice, too)
in it...
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie)
Subject: The REAL world of models...
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 20 Nov 92 07:53:19 GMT


	I've been reading this group for over six months now and I was just
wondering.  Does anyone here really care about the fast-paced, high-price
world of supermodels?  I've been reading this group because I'm curious
about models and how they manage to do their job everyday.  It's a totally
alien concept to me and I'm interested in learning.  However, 95% of what I see
here is simply "Oh-god-she's-hot" and "Here's the nude pictures".  Does anyone
on this group know/care about real modelling?  I'm not saying that those other
people are wrong or right.  It's none of my business what they do.  But, I am
trying to find people who are interested in modelling and not nude women.
Please respond by email if you wish to discuss modelling, or, better yet,
know a bit about it.  fletch@camelot.bradley.edu
Thank you.

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From: jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!)
Subject: Re: Elle & Swimming?!?!?!?
Keywords: elle, swimming,
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:59:34 GMT

aml4@po.cwru.edu (Adam M. Lambert) writes:


>Elle was on Jay Leno a week or two ago, and she mentioned swimming as her
>favorite sport.  A few people around here have said that she was swimming 
>competitively, maybe in college or something... does anyone by chance know 
>anything about this??

>Thanks..
>-Adam

I saw a commercial recently (forget what it was for) where the announcer
asks something to the effect of: which famous supermodel is also a 
professional swimmer? And then you see Elle and she says something like,
"And you thought Elle McPhearson was just another pretty face."

S'all I know...


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From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: Re: 5 MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN IN HILBERT SPACE
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:07:47 GMT

>1. Sophie Marceau  (a too little known French actress)
>2. Lysette Anthony  (a too little known British actress, the one in _Krull_)
>3. Elizabeth Taylor (ca. 1953!!)
>4. Marilyn Monroe (ca. 1955)
>5. Ariel (of the Little Mermaid) ... Whoooop!
>
>If you know all of these babes, you'll notice that they all have a certain 
>feature in common ... Any guesses ...?

Huh.... the eyes?

- Hacker
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: 9204474@cuslm.ca (MORIN PETER JOHN)
Subject: HEY JENNIFER WHERE ARE YOU
Keywords: JENNIFER
Organization: Centre d'Informatique, Centre universitaire Saint-Louis-Maillet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:36:21 GMT

Hey Jennifer,Just was wondering if you were going to reply.
Peter Morin
Department of Education,University of Moncton,Edmunstun NB,Canada
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: mhampsch@boi.hp.com (Mark Hampsch)
Subject: Lynda Carter
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:42:56 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

If you find any gif/jpgs of lynda can you please post them.  Some of us do
not have ftp access out into the real world.

Mark
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:59:11 EST
From: Doc <SS3254B@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: the most beautiful women in the world

Here goes,

Kathy Ireland - SCHWING!!!
Michelle Pfiffer (sp?)
Cindy Crawford
Mariah Carey
Sinikka, my girlfriend :-)

     Unrespectfully yours, Doc
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: colin.buckley@rose.com (colin buckley)
Subject: Moles...
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:58:08 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 11-23-92 23:50
  >I was under the impression one had to be absolutely perfect to get
  >into modelling, but models have an awful lot of tricks to make
  >up for their little imperfections, and sometimes so-called imperfections
  >can become a models trademark - ie:  Cindy's mole).

What is it with that mole above the lip anyways?  Cindy, Nikki, Madonna, and
hell even I have one.  Although I think Madonna's is on the opposite side.
I wonder if we have genes in common. (but doesn't everyone.)  Then again
with a couple of billion people, I guess the odds wouldn't rule chance out.
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: stecher@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Jack Stecher)
Subject: Re:  the most beautiful women in the world
Organization: Department of Economics, Univ of Minn
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:26:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.210849.8911@ac.dal.ca> egilmour@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Well, here's my list of the 5 most beautiful people:
>
>- [snip]
>-  Uma Thurman;

Ack.  She has a face that reminds one of Elsie the Cow.

>-  and
>-  Winona Ryder.

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!  And for a moment I thought you
were serious.

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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Subject: Re: Calendars and Brains
Reply-To: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:04:15 GMT

Models -- yeah, they might have incredibly high IQ's, know how to solve  
differential equations, and hold conversations in seventeen different  
languages.

BUT......they're apparently not perceptive enough to get out of a  
profession that perpetuates ridiculous stereotypes and standards, not to  
mention being a cornerstone in the evil industry of advertising.  Or  
possibly they just don't care to get out of it.  The discussion earlier  
mentioned the sin of ENVY.  Well, here's a case of the one called GREED.  

/jte
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jim@neb (Jim Hood)
Subject: Sexual harassment on the net??
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:28:59 GMT

>From LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu Mon Nov 16 12:57:25 1992
>Path: ..!olivea!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!lxp111
>From: LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu
>Organization: Penn State University

>Hey Jen, I have the same problem wit da women on this net..heh heh heh.  Hey
>since were both netsexobjects...will you do me baby fuck me.....just kidding ag
>ain.

You know...  Joke or not, legally that could be considered sexual harassment.
If that account belongs to a STUDENT, that would definately be grounds for
expulsion from college.  If that account was from an employee (faculty or
not) it would definately open a door for a law suit against the school.

It is not that difficult to track where messages were posted from.
As the sysadmin of the machines at my work, if I were to recieve a
note from someone that complained of sexual email or postings directed
at them, I would be required to turn over that information to 
personnel and the pres of our company.  I do not believe their employment
would last.

-jim
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