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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner...Director's cut
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:24:01 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <BuKxMu.Gx.1@cs.cmu.edu> nix@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Thompson) writes:
>I saw the first so-called director's cut (no narration but no unicorn
>scene).  My impression was that, although there were very few new
>scenes, each scene went on a bit longer than in the originally
>released version.  My *suspicion* is that they forced Scott to cut the
>running time down and he did it by taking a bit from each scene - this
>removed a lot of the connections between scenes and made the film
>harder to understand, hence the voice-overs.

This was my impression, also.  I found that the raw cut was actually
smoother than either the released Director's cut or the usual release.
Very strange.

>
>The new footage in the cut I saw was accompanied by cheesy orchestral
>music.  Hopefully they've got more Vangelis work instead in the new
>version.

Some of the scenes from the usual release had cheesy orchestral music
in the raw cut, also, I believe.  The Director's cut has an
all-Vangelis score.


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it for _later_."
From: dvss!jtroy@udel.edu (Jay Troy)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Wild at Heart
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 03:13:38 EDT
Organization: Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.

ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven) writes:

>      I'm sorry, but for some reason, _Wild At Heart_ didn't hit me as hard as
> _Blue Velvet_ or even, more recently, _Fire Walk With Me_.. By the way, has
> anyone else seen the Twin Peaks film?  I quite enjoyed it.  Seeing it at the
> theater was like gazing deeply (at times) into a surrealist painting.

> Little Man: Let's rock!

I thought it was one of the most powerful movie experiences that I've ever
had.  I was blown away.  The lodge scenes and the "Bang-Bang" scenes were
the best!  The way Lynch twists the under belly of suburbia into your
worst visual nightmare is singularly fantastic.

I want to go again.

Minor spoiler follows

During the dinner scene after Laura's dad/Bob screws her, I felt the same
bizarre nutso tension that I felt during the "mini-chicken" dinner scene
in Eraserhead.  I thought it was pretty incredible that Lynch could evoke
that same "worms on your flesh" feeling from such totally different
situations.




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From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Solaris (was Re: Most Embarassing Movie)
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:06:46 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

ab3f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arthur Edgar Bucholtz) writes:

>It [Solaris] has been released on video (2 cassettes, letterboxed, gorgegous
>print.) 

If it's on two cassettes, then this must be the 5+ hour version, rather
than the 2+ hour original US version.
                                                                      SJ/LH
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From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:48:25 GMT

In <1992Sep5.195204.17421@leland.Stanford.EDU> nlazar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nicole Alana Lazar) writes:

>I once saw a movie SO bad that I have to this day repressed the title! All I
>remember is that I saw it on a date (last time I went out with *that* guy!) and
>it was directed by Peter Greenaway (sp?). It was about 4 hours long (seemed
>longer) and consisted solely of 80 or so vignettes about people who were 
>transformed into bird-like creatures or became obsessed with birds, following
>some unexplained global tragedy. Most of the people walked out during the film;
>I wanted to, but would have had no way of geting home, so I went to sleep 
>instead, somewhere around vignette 30 (when I realized that nothing was going
>to come of the flick - or the date!). Total dog!! Am I the only sucker who saw
>this?

>  Nicole.


I am an unapologetic Greenaway fan so I suppose I will take an
apologist stance on this film.  It is Peter Greenaway's encyclopaedic
film _The_Falls_.  Unless I'm mistaken (I may be a fan but I've never
made the effort to read a decent bio) it was made when he was fresh
out of film school.  You can see the beginnings (ie. raw) of
Greenaway's superb, IMHO, studies with some really interesting camera
work.  The soundtrack was provided by Brian Eno, whom I also really
like.  Granted it has become lumped in with so-called new age music
but hell whens the last time an aesthetic form you liked has not been
appropriated? 

It is a hard film to watch as, typical of seventies experiemental
film, there is a refusal to emplott the film and instead faith lies in
aesthetic agency.  I must admit I did consider leaving a couple of
times as one soon gets the sense that "nothings's going to happen" but
I stuck it out and was quite glad of it.

BTW, it's called _The_Falls_ because the people being profiled all
have surnames ending with 'fall' and as you said, have for no reason
(and in keeping with Greenaway, you wont get one) sprouted wings.

If you find that to be a piece of obnoxious filmmaking, try watching
anything by Bruce Elder.  Sorry to see so many people despise
Greenaway.

Ian
Xref: sparky alt.cult-movies:7645 rec.arts.movies:27210
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:03:06 EDT
From: Todd Bobenrieth <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: George A Romero's Zombie films
 <1992Sep8.152814.1863@news2.cis.umn.edu> <92252.113743TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Sep9.141803.12918@news2.cis.umn.edu>

I heard about the 4th Dead movie in Gorezone, I believe. It was tentatively
titled Dusk of the Dead(no joke). So if this info is wrong, blame ...Zone,
not me, for it. Just chalk it up to poor research on their part. And I saw
the first few minutes of The Crazies...what I saw was fair and I might rent
it this week. Did you think it was good? You could just E-mail me with a
review if you don't mind... thanks in advance.
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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Buckaroo Banzai question
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 18:10:37 GMT

Had quite a few future stars: Peter Weller, Jeff Goldblum, Ellen Barkin,
etc. as well as John Lithgrow in one of the most over the top
performances he has ever given. This movie is hilarious !
(Christopher Lloyd, Johnathon Pryce are also in the movie).

I recently picked up a brand new copy for $10 (I gather it is now in
the public domain so anyone can pick it up and make copies of it).

Plot summary: Buckaroo is brain surgeon, rock star (his band is called
the Hong Kong Cavaliers), and race car driver who uses an 'overthruster'
on an experimental race car to go into the 8th dimension. Meantime,
these martians who used Orson Welles' War Of the Worl broadcast to
land in New Jersey form a company called YoYodyne Propulsion. The
bad aliens are white and the good aliens are black ! The latter, when
they appear in our dimension, look and talk like rastafarians !
John Lithgrow has a huge Italian accent and is leader of the baddies.

Music is by Michael Boddicker.

Check it out ! 
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From: lorenzo@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo)
Subject: Naked Lunch
Followup-To: poster
Summary: *Just* saw it
Keywords: comments, insights?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 09:44:39 GMT

As the headers say, I just saw Naked Lunch.  I'm almost positive it's been 
discussed here before, but I am looking for some insights into that movie.  It
seems to be one of those flicks that is screaming something about society.

Please e-mail me, unless people feel like discussing it in the group again.

Thanks in advance
-Eric 

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From: vnelson@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gerald Vernon Nelson)
Subject: Re: Hey! I liked Star Trek V!
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:44:32 GMT



>While skimming through this net, i came across several negative references
>to Star Trek V.
>Whats the deal here? 

I can sum up what I didn't like in one sentence:

Scotty: "I know this ship like the back of my hand!"
        Turns around, walks into beam, does stupid pratfall.

Every time I started getting into this movie, they would pull a
"insert joke here" scene.  It really ruined the mood.
I kept thinking.. Boy that was really stupid!

>Flame Away!
Youve got to be joking...  I liked Hardware.

Vern Nelson
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From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: R. Kern
Keywords: Kern
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:48:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.020441.16708@hubcap.clemson.edu> trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>drpete01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Dean Peters) writes:
>
>>The people at the video store said they were going to purchase "Hardcore R.
>>Kern vol. II" sometime in the future.  I think they should get it _NOW_!!!
>
>These two Richard Kern compilations are distributed by Film Threat 
>Video Guide magazine and can be ordered directly from them.  Just head 
>down to your local (good) news stand and pick up a copy of FTVG...
>there are lots of movies available from them directly, besides those
>by R. Kern.  Others of note would include those Nekromantik films
>discussed here not too long ago, and a film called _Red_ which is based
>on the legendary underground prank call bootleg tape which has been
>circulating for years, and features the acting of Lawrence Tierney
>(Prizzi's Honor)...
> 
>Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
> 
>                                                     +-----------+
>                                                     | _> ###    |
>                  fleshy from the wetter             |     |     |
>                                                     +-----------+

Film threat Video Guide is a companion to Film Threat magazine. Since the
actual magazine has returned to the Stands, I can't find FTVG at too many places
? Did Chris Gore decide to play down the FTVG when FT returned from Hiatus?
Luckily, FT deals in the videos too. And to be nit-picky, I should point out
that FT is the main company, and they are the ones who distribute the tapes.
FTVG was a fill in for when FT disappeared. I find it somewhat odious that
they have pretty much always given glowing reviews to the films that they
later started to sell. And some of those tapes stink, IMHO.

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: svedberg@s20.msi.umn.edu (Eric J. Svedberg)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner...Director's cut
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:18:24 GMT

flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:

>Hellow,

>I was in the local vid store, picking up "my girl" (wow, great flick)
>when I saw "Blade Runner.....Tenth Aniversary Release" and said, wow,
>get both of the flicks.......I did, I thougth the Tenth Aniversary vid
>would be the famed "Director's Cut"  or whatever you all have been
>calling it......to my dismay, I found nothing real new......I was
>looking for new and I think I found a few scenes that were different for
>the original copy that I have..........

   If you look at the running times of each (original and Tenth aniversary)
the tenth aniversary is 2 minutes shorter.  Haven't viewed it though, so
can't help you on the differences.

eric
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From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: Re: Nosferatu - The Vampyre?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:54:38 GMT

>excellent, but if you like a lot of action, forget it.  It's
>moody and atmospheric (in a different way than the 1922 version -
>which by the way, is available in a restored version).

i just watched the 'restored' 22 nosferatu, yes, it's a much better print
than the one i'd seen previously, the soundtrack is however absolutely
wretched.  horrid horrid horrid. it breaks into jazz  at entirely
inappropriate moments. bleah...

ieya



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From: ncchang@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Chang)
Subject: Marcus Gilbert??
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 02:57:40 EDT


I watched two TNT (Turner network) movies recently.  Both of them were
based on Barbara Cartland's novels.  One is called "Hazaderous of the hearts",
and the other is called " A ghost in Monte Carlo".  I was very impressed
by the leading actor, Marcus Gilbert.  I would like to know some more his
information, and his other movies.  If you know about him, could you do
this favor for me?  I will be very appreciate.

Please send your message to  IN%"NCHANG@SUNRISE.ACS.SYR.EDU"

Thanks a lot!

Jocelyn Chang

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: cont.
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:10:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.010744.18192@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>Hi guys, sorry about this. This is a continuation of my last post. Anyways,
>someone asked whether the Princess Bride would make a good cult movie. I say
>absolutely. I mean, one of the best criteria for a cult movie is whether the
>dialogue is recitable along with the movie, and PB definitely qualifies.
>("...I shall be very put out.")
>Worst cult movie I ever saw: oo, gotta be "Ro-Man". This flick was 
>reportedly made on a 16,000 dollar budget, and you can tell. The plot concerns
>a scientist and his assistant and family, trapped on a planet with an alien
>who looks like Oscar the Grouch with a fish bowl on his head. The best part
>of the movie was when Ro-Man captured the scientist's teenage daughter. Upon
>being ordered by the alien Mission Control to kill the girl, Ro-Man stared
>soulfully into her cleavage and announced, "I must...but I cannot". I saw
>this movie at a 24-hour sci fi movie marathon in which it was considered
>good taste to yell things at the screen a la Rocky Horror, and everyone
>proceeded to yell the above line whenever they felt like it. There was 
>another movie being shown at the same festival called "Earth VS The Flying
>Saucers". I couldn't face that one--too scary--so I retired to my then-
>boyfriend's house to play NetHack. (Looking back, I might have been better
>off with the movie, but never mind.) Anyways, sounded like a sleeper.
>				Rosaleen Dhu

I think the film you have chosen to be your "worst" cult film, is actually
called "Robot Monster". Yeah, it is terrible, but some of us still love it!
You forgot to mention the bubble radio thing that he uses to talk to his 
home planet. Normal radio, but it emits soap bubble when in use!
Yeah, the budget wasn't much, but it does have music by Elmer Bernstien,
and I believe it was made in a widescreen format. If you think this was
bad, check out "Cape Canaveral Monsters" by the same director <Phil Tucker>.
It makes "Robot Monster" seem positively inspired!                   

Too bad you skipped "EArth Vs. The Flying Saucers". Sounds like the wrong
crowd but it's an excellent slice of 50's movie Sci-fi, and features
cool, Stop motion effects by Ray Haryhausen!

<All IMHO>

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Another Dune question
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:48:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.204742.5146@sbcs.sunysb.edu> ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing) writes:
>
>how funny, i just watched it again on weds(the tv cut) and  i liked it so much
>more this time.  of course, i was also playing "spot the future twin peaks
>actors" (there are 4) :-> and caught the david lynch cameo that i'd never
>noticed for some reason. the sheild has been explained more than adequately,
>and the dog is most likely the atreides mascot/ symbol and a rallying point for
>the troops. i actually felt kind of sorry for the sardaukar at the end, kept
>thinking 'stop shooting at the worms! you're only pissing them off!' :-)
>one other thing tho, the copy i've got is narrated by a guy, i'm almost postive
>that the first time i watched it on tv, it was narrated by irulan, or is that
>the video release? or am i just misremembering it? anybody else seen it with
>narration by irulan?
>
>-- 
>corey w nelson		|  EGO PROJECT NUMBER II: a goth/som zine
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>of Mercy FAQ, DISCOG	|  versions. issue 1 out Aug.2. featuring interviews
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Yeah, my copy has Narration by Irulan. Never seen it any other way, but I 
would be interested to. I still want the 5 hour directors cut!

					--Judex--
From: 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Buckaroo Banzai question
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:09:51 GMT


	This morning I remembered seeing Buckaroo Banzai YEARS ago. I
mean, when I was still in middle school. Sad to say, I always fell asleep.
Can anyone give me a plot synopsis? I thought this movie might be good to
see now that I'm older and could appreciate it more.

Nik
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Subject: Re: Another Dune question
From: mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Mark Hiro           Norman         )
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:48:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1992Sep5.204742.5146@sbcs.sunysb.edu> ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing) writes:


>how funny, i just watched it again on weds(the tv cut) and  i liked it so much
>more this time.  of course, i was also playing "spot the future twin peaks
>actors" (there are 4) :-> and caught the david lynch cameo that i'd never
>noticed for some reason. the sheild has been explained more than adequately,

In the book, the working of the shield is attributed to the 'Holtzmann Effect'
which basically means, this is a futuristic development so don't worry. In a
later volume the point is raised that at some point the Effect will be made
obsolete by technical developments either of the Tleilaxu or the fringe
scientists. But hey, this is only for hardcore Duners.

>and the dog is most likely the atreides mascot/ symbol and a rallying point for
>the troops.

I think the dog is a mascot. I doubt if it's meant to be carried into battle
though! The dogs were taken by Gurney because the palace was being fragged
by the Sardaukar and the Harkonnen artillery as I recall.

> i actually felt kind of sorry for the sardaukar at the end, kept
>thinking 'stop shooting at the worms! you're only pissing them off!' :-)

I felt sad for the Fremen. Having been trained to be the fiercest knife
fighters in the known universe, they didn't get to fight the Sardaukar but
squashed them with worms and shouted at them instead. But hey.

>one other thing tho, the copy i've got is narrated by a guy, i'm almost postive
>that the first time i watched it on tv, it was narrated by irulan, or is that
>the video release? or am i just misremembering it? anybody else seen it with
>narration by irulan?

Where oh where do you guys see the TV version? I've never seen it in a video
store, so I guess that only TV stations have access to it.

>-- 
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From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Subject: Re: Rocky Horror...Where?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:12:54 GMT


>>  _The Princess Bride_ has its merits, but it's too pseudointellectual to
>>deserve cult status (though it won't be the first p.-i. film to get a
>>following; _Buckaroo Banzai_ f'r instance). 
>>  If anything should be a cult film, it should be one of the recent cool-as
>>-hell-but-still-unsuccessful films that could use a commercial boost, like
>>_Cold Heaven_ (ooooh, I _love_ Ms. Russell in that flattering slip! Yeow!), or
>>_Q & A_, or _Closet Land_, or _The Adventures of Baron Munchausen_, or...
>>or... or... geez, my CPU's gone ape. Anybody else have any recent favorites
>>they'd like to nominate?
>		_Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead_!!!!!!!

My fav film of all time I've heard is a cult film (a al Rocky in
theatre) is monty Python's Life of Brian. I HAVE to see this ina
cinema again... there was a place (in germany I think) where
everyone turns up carrying gourds and sandals (shoes!!! SANDALS!!!)
on sticks etc. The only films like that in Dublin are RHPS (the
longest running in the world... or so they say), and Blues Brothers
(but only on a good night)

>			-- Stewart "heads" Tame
mNSio
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