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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Big Bri)
Subject: AHL playoff update
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:56:09 GMT

Here are the updated results of the AHL playoff series

CAPITAL DISTRICT VS SPRINGFIELD
Last gm: SPR 5-4 (2OT)
Springfield leads series, 2-1.

NEW HAVEN VS ADIRONDACK
Last gm: ADR 5-2	(I was there)
Adirondack leads series, 2-0!!!

MONCTON VS FREDERICTON
Series tied, 1-1.

CAPE BRETON VS ST JOHN'S
Last gm: STJ 5-4
St John's leads series, 2-1.

UTICA VS BINGHAMTON
Last gm: BIN 5-3
Binghamton leads series, 1-0.

HERSHEY VS ROCHESTER
Last gm: ROC 5-3
Rochester leads series, 3-0.

NEXT GAMES:
Tonight: MON AT FRED
Tuesday: SPR AT CDI, STJ AT CB, 
Wednesday: ADR AT NHAVN, FRED AT MON, UTI AT BING, ROC AT HERSH

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From: mikem@beanpot.ma30.bull.com (Mike Machnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NCAA ruling on the Badgers
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:01:47 GMT
Reply-To: mikem@beanpot.ma30.bull.com (Mike Machnik)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bull Worldwide Information Systems

In article <1992Apr16.001042.14106@meteor.wisc.edu>, rbrbrn@meteor.wisc.edu (Rob
Holmes) writes:
|>It's really hard to imagine that the punishment would be that harsh.  After
all,
|>this was only a verbal confrontation, no punches were thrown.  Other NCAA 
|>players and coaches and they get away with it.  In basketball, it gets you a
|>technical!

I was at the game, and about 20 feet from me, I watched several Badger players
*physically* confront the referee, including pushing him, surrounding him,
and swinging sticks at him.  He was pushed and one punch was actually landed 
by a player before the linesmen could push the players away.  So please, do 
not try to downplay what actually took place.  Let's just deal with what 
happened and move on from there.
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From: formeza@girtab.usc.edu (Ted Formeza)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Rub It In Pavel! Rub It In!
Date: 17 Apr 1992 00:28:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: Pavel Bure The Human Highlight Film
Keywords: Pavel Bure

Well i managed to catch most of the home and home series between the Canucks
and the Kings, and Pavel Bure is Magical! In particular, in the second game, 
Bure put a move on Hurdey that i just couldn't believe until they replayed it
in slow motion. Bure skated in on Hurdey, then with the tip of his stick, backhanded the puck into his skates, then kicked it back out in front and put a shot
on goal. He had Hurdey sprawled on the ice, but the shot didn't lift, and hurdey
managed to stop it.
 
In anycase, this prompted Jim Fox one of the commentators for Prime Ticket (the 
cable station that carries the kings in Southern california) to make the remark."Its ok to beat us, but Don't rub it in." This was said in a condescending and
almost threatening tone. What the Hell is that!!! I've come to realize that
almost all commentators are biased but this was crazy. Was he implying that
the kings were going to "pay back" Bure for his tricks? What do you king fans 
think?
 
 
 
     OF course IMHO,
     Ted formeza@aludra.usc.edu
 
     GO! PENS!
 
 

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Hockey money from Canadian TV
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:38:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.213030.1230@cs.mcgill.ca> hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (Peter Choi) writes:
>
>"Hockey Night In Canada", a production of the Canadian Broadcasting
>Corporation (CBC) does pay the NHL for the sole rights to distribute the
>televised hockey games here in Canada. 
>

Technically...I think Molson's holds the broadcast rights and they
resell rights to the CBC, to the local broadcaster, and to TSN in
that order.

Gerald
From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI)
Subject: Re: Consecutive seasons over .500
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:13:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.210454.26631@ists.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak CHHABRA) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.192516.28767@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
>Well, my records only go up to 1982-83, so we'll assume they've been over-.500
>>every year since then.
>>
>>Now for my daily dose of pro-Habs propaganda...   :-)
>>
>>1)  1950-51 was the last year the Canadiens were sub-.500 !!!!!!
>>    And they made it to the Cup finals that year!!!
>>
>>2)  In 1969-70 they had 92 points in 76 games, yet they missed the playoffs
>>    due to a goal-differential that wasn't as good as the team they were
>>    tied with.  (that caused a rule change which I won't get into now...)
>>    If you don't count that year, they have made the playoffs EVERY season
>>    since 1947-48 !!!!!
>>    Talk about consistency!!!
>>
>>--Dave
>
>I hate to be the one to dispute pro-Habs propaganda, but in '83-'84 the 
>Canadiens finished with 75 pts. in 80 games.  Thus began Serge Savard's
>5-year restructuring plan that only took 2 since they won the Cup in 
>'85-'86.  What is noteworthy is that in '83-'84 they advanced to the 
>Conference final, meaning that they *thrashed* Boston in the DSF.  
>BTW I heard that the NY Yankees had 39 consecutive winning seasons
>and that this is a pro-sports record.  Any confirmation?
>
>(even though they had that one sub-.500 season),
>HABS RULE!!!!!


Like I said, my records (The Hockey Encyclopedia) only go up to 1982-83.
So I was wrong about the Habs (can you blame me for assuming they were
over .500?  It was an honest mistake).

And the 'winning season' thing is probably right.
But I still think the Bruins have the record for most consec. playoff seasons.
And, not to worry, the Habs still have the record for the most league
championships (22 + 1 this year :-) ,  ahead of the Yankees.

--Dave
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From: ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: FLYERS notes 4/1
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:19:27 GMT

In article <204659@unix.cis.pitt.edu> jrmst8@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Joseph R. Mcdonald) writes:
>In article <oyuyiB2w164w@cellar.org> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>>Rude remarks will not conceal your misguided insult of all Flyers fans, nor
>>accomplish anything else other than make you look juvenile and obnoxious 
>>before the whole net.  You're frantically trying to flee from the
>>consequences of your poor judgement, which won't work.
>>
>>Apology, please.

>Oh, drop it already.  You're starting to sound like a complete idiot with
>your "apology please" bullshit!  Do you ever post an article directed at
>a disagreeing party without demanding an apology?   Quit being a ridiculous.
>Rick is entitled to his opinion, as are you.  Nobody owes anybody an
>apology.  This is the net for Christ's sake.  Nobody owes you anything.
>By my count this is the 6th time you've asked for an apology.  Your
>arguing technique is getting boring.  In your attempt to act condescending
>to Rick you are sounding like an idiot.  Get over it.

>Dean

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Thank you, Dean.

Warren
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Most popular athletes
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:48:49 GMT


This is interesting, but I wonder how the results would change if the
poll were taken at other times of the year? (Eg. During the winter,
a city's hockey players would be the most popular, but during the
fall, the football players in the area might come out on top....)

Maybe you could get some more data later in the year?
From: cadams@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Sharks Rumor Mill
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:48:53 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

>Forgive me if I've missed or forgotten something obvious, but what
>happend to Gaetz that got him so badly damaged?  The last I remember
>hearing about him was when he started that fight after the end of the Pens
>game.  Was he in an auto accident?


Yes, Link was in an auto accident.  During the strike he rolled is car
(Trans Am or Camaro) on a highway off-ramp.  Intoxication was suspected
but I can't remember what was concluded.

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From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: And it's Hockey Night in Kansas City (Sat Apr 11, 92 6:30 MDT) S4/12
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:58:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr8.185851.19026
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


A Salt Lake TV station is planning on broadcasting the Salt Lake
Golden Eagles at teh Kansas City Blades Saturday Night Apr 11, 1992.
The feed will be on S4, transponder 12.  Game time is 6:30 MDT.

Salt Lkae is a farm team for the Calgary Flames, and Kansas City is
a farm team of the San Jose Sharks.  IN the last regualr season gaem
(game)) Kansas City beat  Salt Lake 5-4 in regulation.

I don't know if anybody cares about being able to watch IHL hockey
on SAturday Night, but I thought I would let everybody knwo

roland
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From: cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO)
Subject: Re: the season doesn't have to end...
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 16:32:41 GMT


This is re: scores.

Leafs 5 Isles 2?  Oh come on!  Your program would be so far off...  Although
  the Leafs would fight for that last playoff spot, in reality, the Isles would
  not lose as they're looking forward to a .500 season, and the fact that they
  would be playing the spoiler role.  

  In a way I am glad that this strike came up, for Al Arbour's sake.  He's tied
  with Bowman for most victories for a coach in Playoffs, and if the Playoffs
  were on, Bowman could get the tie breaking win with the Pens.  If Al does
  officially retire from coaching (again), then it would be nice that he still
  had that record, or at least is tied for it.  But coaching record win %age,
  Al's the best!

 
NJ beating Washington?  Possible...  As in reality, NJ and Pitts were fighting
  for that 3rd position against the Caps.

SJ beating Jets?  Another false prophesy.  Winnipeg would only need the one win
  to knock out the Flames, so they should have an easy time against San Jose,
  as San Jose is a simple expansion team, yet one of the best expansion teams
  that the league has seen in a while!
 
  ____
   / o n y.
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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Kiss the playoffs goodbye
Organization: Columbia University
	<1992Apr8.052426.8099@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
	<ARBOGASTW.54@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>
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Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:59:11 GMT

jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu (James J. Murawski) writes:
> Unfortunately, Gary, the other five hockey fans in New York must not listen
> to WFAN radio.  8-) 8-)

Well, now, that brings up a question: Who are the other four, and are
we all on the net? :-) Actually, there were at least five hockey fans
who called in later that night, but I think some of them were from out
of town.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: djung@fraser.sfu.ca (Derek Shew Lon Jung)
Subject: Re: I'm lost.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:45:22 GMT

popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich) writes:

>> A last thought:  The NHL seems to want to commit mass suicide.  Who are
>> the real idiots?  The NHLPA?  The owners?  Both?  Fans like me who are
>> trying to make sense of it all?

>Actually, it's only one more sign of a vast conspiracy.  Both sides in
>this dispute have been taken over by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY :-).  So of
>course they can only figure out how to shoot themselves in the foot!
>As for who is an idiot, well, we've all known for years about John
>Ziegler.  Unfortunately, it looks we can do nothing about that.

Not being a big follower of U.S. politics, I can't really comment, though
I'd say it's all the work of the Social Credit Party of British Columbia
(those from B.C. know what I'm talking about; those outside, consider it
our version of the Democratic party :-).

As for Ziegler, we could somehow arrange for him to be driven around in
a convertible in Dallas, at around 10 mph....(To all those offended by
the allusions to JFK's assassination, chill.)
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The Strike SUCKS.
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:12:19 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


Ok, their HOCKEY career might end after age 35.  What is stopping them from
then going out and getting a job?  More and more players are coming from
the NCAA, doesn't that mean that they should have some kind of non-hockey
training in some field?  Alternatively, they can coach, scout do lots of
things.  I don't see why we have to say that they have to earn their
lifetime's earnings in the time they play hockey.

   Daryl <umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
From: am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Strike and Other Thoughts
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:59:26 GMT
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I keep hearing conflicting reports about who-said-what concerning
The Strike.  One thing I heard on the car radio this morning was
that Penguin Prez Baldwin said if The Strike continues into next
season he will definitely bring in replacement players.

I don't know -- listening to all this Strike talk is almost as
bad as listening to Bill Clinton/Jerry Brown debates.  Let's leave
the b.s. to politics, the forum which brought mudslinging to its
current status. :)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: cadesjar@descartes.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: Sherri's Spewing (WAS: Re: Another Lindros)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 03:19:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.174546.28435@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>
>I do advocate total free agency.  Just like you and I have.  However, I
>also recognize that not even the players union would want such a beast, as
>*total* free agency would tend to drive salaries down, not up.

So that means players will have to settle for only 1 million
instead of 2? Oh, give me a fucking break. My heart bleeds.

>Sherri Nichols

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Thanks for the response Sherri....

>How exactly has the draft helped the Winnipeg Jets be competitive with
>anybody, regardless of market size?

>...draft... because it's completely random

I have seen your arguments similar to this Sherri and I guess my problem
is that I don't buy it.  It is what I would call an over-simplification.
Arguably,  with the WHA effecting Gretzky's generation and the opening
of the Eastern block player market recently the draft has been a bit
more randomized.  I think those exceptions are rare transients and still
are minor.  Winnipeg was able to remain competative by securing the
rights of players such as Hawerchuk.  Even though he was traded, the Jets
got other good player(s) in return.  I do agree that the later rounds
are relatively random.  Even with the failures I don't believe that
there is not a significant correlation with players taken in the first
few rounds and their success in the NHL.  It is true that some top picks
like Doug Wickenheiser (sp?) sometimes don't become stars,  but at the
same time players drafted in the first few rounds (e.g. Denis Savard
drafted #2 the same year as Wickenheiser was #1) are far better
prospects and succeed more often than late picks.  It would be
interesting to compare the #1 pick to the #21 pick of each of the past ten
years.

I don't believe that the NHL draft is completely random any more than I
think that Mario Lemieux,  Eric Lindros, Owen Nolan,  Trevor Linden etc.
etc are total flukes (I know that Eric is "unproven" but does anyone
want to bet against him?).

>As Gerald has pointed out, there are only 20 jobs on the Los Angeles Kings.
>The Kings can't go out and sign everybody in a free market; players want to
>go to teams where they will play.

I think that I mentioned that any reply sounding like "Gee, if all the
rich teams already have all the talent they need then the poor teams can
have their pick of the leftovers!" would not be well received.  This is
so silly it doesn't really justify a reply.  LA Kings: "Gee that Lindros
sure looks good but we already have 20 good players".  Yah sure.

>I don't ever think in terms of whether a city "should" or "should not" have
>a team.  It doesn't make sense to me; cities don't "deserve" teams or not
>"deserve" teams.  

Thats fine,  but perhaps it is necessary to structure the league so that
more than a few cities can have teams that can compete.  Lets face it -
it's more fun that way.


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From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: Sherri's Spewing (WAS: Re: Another Lindros)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:44:30 GMT

In article <14780@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>In article <1992Mar31.134808.15002@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
>> Just as an FYI:  Canadian universities do not have sports scholarships 
>> like US ones do.  You have to be admitted on your academic record.
>
>So tell me - just what US University accepts students who do not qualify
>with their academice record? I know here at Arizona we have rejected
>players who have met NCAA requirements but failed the university core
>requirements - I'm just curious. Also, as someone who is sensitive of
>late to US bashing, the american system of higher education is simply
>the best in the world - no two ways about it - better access and at the
>top better quality - the envy of the world in fact - or are we to really
>believe that Canada or say some European country has a superior system?
>If in fact, anyone truly believes that I'd love to hear the justification
>for it - but perhaps a different group would be appropriate...

I missed this article orginally...glad someone else seems to have quoted it
in toto.

Just a few points, Gary:

(1) You have misrepresented my views.  Go back and read my other postings.
(2) "You have to be admitted on your academic record" means that they
    offer scholarhsips to the N brightest students, rather than the K
    brighest plus the L best atheletes whose academic records meet a
    certain minimal standard.  Although there have been allegations that
    some schools have admitted academically sub-standard atheletes, I
    did not imply this was standard practice.
(3) We have lots of foreign grad students in Canada too.  
(4) My particular research area has very little research going on at US
    universities -- the really interesting stuff is going on in Europe.
(5) I would argue that "better access" isn't completely accurate ... how 
    many people can afford to go to Ivy League schools?
(6) The US is a fine place, Gary Newell notwithstanding.

-- 
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Dept of Comp Sci, UofT      	         	-- allegedly, the last words
migod@turing.toronto.edu			   of Oscar Wilde
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From: ace@lacey.cs.mcgill.ca (Arthur CHAN)
Subject: Re: RUMOR: STRIKE OVER?
Keywords: It's over.
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:19:55 GMT

In article <17468.29e5e251@ecs.umass.edu> lyddy@ecs.umass.edu writes:
> Mike Lynch, the sportscaster for channel 5 in Boston, just
> echoed CKAC radio's announcement that the Strike was over.
> Although the NHL has refused to confirm, Lynch reported that
> the Bruins are planning to resume the regular season Sunday
> night against the Quebec Nordiques.  Someone from Montreal 
> please elaborate on the details of CKAC's announcement.
> 
> -Dan Lyddy
> -UMass at Amherst

Yes, the strike is over!!  The headlines were splattered
ALL over the newspapers ( french and english )

Games of the regular season resume on sunday and will continue
on a four day stretch. 

Montreal fans can relax now.  The cup will be ours.

CANADIENS win the Stanley Cup!
EXPOS win the World Series!
MACHINE win the World Bowl!
Montreal's 350th anniversity !

Best place to be!

Can it get any better?


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