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From: jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: American Psycho?
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:34:42 GMT
Organization: UCB Space Sciences Lab
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In article <92311.154830BFANTIE@auvm.american.edu>, <BFANTIE@auvm.american.edu> writes:
|> There probably aren't a lot of books like "American Psycho" around. In fact,
|> Brett Easton Ellis had trouble getting it published. His original publisher
|> dropped the problem when a huge furor arose about the book being anti-woman.
|> Having read the book, I'm puzzled by this conclusion. Our serial killer
|> might display signs of sexism, racism, moneyism, etcism, etcism......but he
|> is an equal opportunity murderer. The book is really disturbing.....if you
|> can stand the endless detailed information gleaned from magazines like GQ
|> about fashion and brandnames.
|> 
|> There is an anthology (i found it in the same public library as i found
|> "american Psycho.....freedom of speech and artistic expression do exist
|> in small cells of political incorrectness even in America) of material
|> that might interest those who "enjoyed ???" American Psycho. It's called
|> "Splatter Punks" and contains references to other collections and short
|> stories and even rare novels of the genre.
|> 
|> I hope this helps.
|> 
|> Dr. B.



	I read Splatter Punks and enjoyed it.  The stories were gross
	but not entirely fixated with being disgusting.  They were
	actually quite intelligent.

	Is Brett Easton Ellis the author of American Psycho?  I have
	been looking for it off and on since the furor about it blew
	across the media, but I haven't had much luck.  I don't think
	many booksellers in Berkeley are willing to carry something
	that is known as anti-woman.  If anyone knows where I could get
	it out here, please let me know.

	Thanks.


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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: colin.buckley@rose.com (colin buckley)
Subject: _Susperia_
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:38:41 GMT
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Date Entered: 11-08-92 23:31
K(A>I've seen several mentions of a movie (?) called _Susperia_ on
   >here lately..in the 'scaries scenes' discussion.  A bunch of
   >us here in good ol' Tucson have been wanting to get together for
   >a good horror night...and this sounds good! However, I've never
   >heard about it before ( shame, shame, I know)...would anyone
   >out there mind telling me a bit about the movie?

I also rented it after people had it on there Top Ten lists.  Saying it was
a good recent rental.  I assumed it was new, but it didn't look it to me and
it had no copyright notice on the Canadian distribution box or in the movie
credits.  Looks atleast 10 years old.

It's about a European Ballet school that was built by a witch, and some
dancers start getting killed mysteriously, and it's up to a newly arrived
American dancer to figure it all out.  It was pretty good, very hard to
sit though until you get the first scare (which happened to be the only
one for me, it's predicitable but I still jumped as I wasn't expecting it
at that exact moment.) and I wanted to fast forward through the ballet parts.

The most appealing part of the movie was the incredible sound track,
the Goblins are great in this movie and pretty much well played the entire
length of the film.

I thought the ending was decent up until the ballet school starts burning
and breaking apart.  How many times have I seen that...

It's definately worth a rent if you have surround sound and blast it as
high as possible.

So on with my questions, what's the date on Suspiria and what other
movies have the Goblins done the sound track for?  I saw them in the
credits for Day of the Dawn, however I don't remember ANY music in that movie.
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From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Primal Scream Therapy
Summary: President Bill "I will not run in '92" Clinton
Keywords: inxs's "suicidal blonde" sounds like "soup and salad bar"
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:37:27 GMT
Distribution: alt.horror
Organization: The Special Corps


  Good day, fellow netterpunks. Since this is "alt.horror", I would like
to express my horror at the election of Bill Clinton to the Oval Office.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

  Ah. That feels much better.
  Thank you.

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						Romero/Savini in '96!
From: tgtchb@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Harold C.L. Baur)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: 3-D Horror Films
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:57:31 GMT
Reply-To: tgtchb@chem.tue.nl

donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

    (about 3-D movies)

>>PARASITE
>>JAWS 3D
>>TREASURE OF THE FOUR CROWNS
>>METALSTORM: THE DESTRUCTION OF JARED SYN
>>SPACEHUNTER: ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE

Add AMITYVILLE part <I forgot that> as well. Or one of the many clones
of that movie. Anyway, it is not even worth mentioning here I guess.

   Haribo.
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: Re: Count Yorga, Vampire!
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:43:50 GMT

In article <97130@netnews.upenn.edu> rlewis@mail.sas.upenn.edu writes:
>I am interested in any information that may be out there about the Count Yorga  
>vampire movies of the seventies. Are these movies available on video? Does  
>anyone remember the actual titles of thes films? I remember being terrified by  
>these films as a child.  

there are only two that i know of:
count yorga, vampire 1970
the return of count yorga 1971

only the first is on video


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From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Hellraiser II - the lost cut scenes.
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:19:20 GMT
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

The reason the scene with the Centobites in doctor's clothes can't
be found is that it doesn't exist.  This is how Clive Barker explained
it at a horror convention I was at.  They had this idea that a doctor
would be taking care of somebody, then, the pins and some blood would 
come through the mask and Pinhead would appear.  Unfortunately, they
never got the effect that they wanted and scrapped the idea.  However,
whoever was doing the promotion for the film was on the set taking some
still photos and they got a shot of this scene.  Whoever put the box
together liked the photo and put it on the box not realizing that the
scene was not in the movie.

                                                ->Later.....Spice
From: mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas )
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Algernon Blackwood Book
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:58:39 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp.


-- 
Has anyone heard of a book by Blackwood called "John Silence"?
I just picked a copy up from the thrift store and it's copyrighted
in the 20s, although I can't remember if it's a first edition
(I was gonna look tonight).  Is this a good find?  It seemed like it
at the time.  I just read Fiona's background on A.B.: I didn't know
much about him, but I recognized his name in connection with Yeats
and the Golden Dawn, so I snatched up the book.

Maria

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Intel Corporation	mdouglas@cadev6.intel.com  

"Boy, I don't know what that thar Space Mead is,
	but ahhhhl drink it!"

		Jake Barlow,
		Bounty Hunter and Cthulhoid Investigator

Standard disclaimer applies...
From: kneale@noao.edu (ruth a. kneale)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: _Susperia_
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:55:21 GMT
Organization: eek snarl growl chomp munch

I've seen several mentions of a movie (?) called _Susperia_ on
here lately..in the 'scaries scenes' discussion.  A bunch of
us here in good ol' Tucson have been wanting to get together for
a good horror night...and this sounds good! However, I've never
heard about it before ( shame, shame, I know)...would anyone
out there mind telling me a bit about the movie?

Posting or email responses are just peachy.

Thanks in advance!
-- 
ruth a. kneale			I crave it all but don't get
rkneale@noao.edu		any of it as often as I'd like.
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: it : clown scary??
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 17:43:06 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Socioanarchy and a bit of feudalism

nclennan@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Neil F. Clennan) writes:

> In article <1992Oct28.4707.5598@dosgate> "james kewageshig"  
> <james.kewageshig@canrem.com> writes:
> > mars@carroll1.cc.edu (Sean Tyler Mars) writes:
> > 
> > ST>I am interested in making a room in a Haunted House and dedicating it to
> the
> > ST>movie "IT".  I am trying to remember what made that clown so dam  
> scary...Does
> > 
> > A few years ago I was illustrating the cover for IT as an art class
> > assignment and I used The Joker from 'The Dark Knight Returns' as
> > my basis.  The Joker was never evilier (word?) looking than in
> > The Dark Knight, near the end where he slumps down...
> 
> Clowns are taught never to put points at the corners of their smiles;
> they are always rounded.  This is because the smile tends to scare
> children if it is pointed.  Some of the original artwork for the Joker
> in Batman comics, and much of it since the original, depicts the Joker
> with a pointed smile for the very reason that it does make him look
> scary.
> 
> --
> Neil Clennan
> nclennan@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu

 
RE: scary clowns
 
 I heard an interesting radio program on the CBC a while ago, which dealt 
with clowns. Apparently, the made-up clown was originally intended to be 
seen from a GREAT distance, such as in a three-ring circus...that's why 
they wore grease paint, to allow the distant audience to see their 
expressions better.
 That's why clowns are scary...they were never meant to go to birthday 
parties and the like. The super-broad, super-expressive features look 
fine far away, but come across as strange and distorted up close.
 
marlowe
/l

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From: TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu (Todd Bobenrieth)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Friday The 13th (TV E
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:06:26 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Yeah, I saw the one where Ryan was killed, demonized, then became a disciple of
evil. (The Prophecies)   That was awesome. Ryan was replaced by Johnny, who was
introduced in the "Wedding Bell Blues" episode. Johnny was played by Steven
Monarque.
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: S. P. Somtow
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:15:45 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <1992Nov8.113501.1840@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>,
ljhr@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> He used to publish under another name (Somtow P. ??????????????????), a very
                                                   Sucharitkul (sp?)

     According to an issue of F&SF from a year or two ago, he was
making a movie called "The Laughing Dead."  It was some sort of evil
Mayan priest human sacrifice reincarnation possession thing on a tight
budget.  A number of genre authors had cameo bits as zombies et al,
according to the article.  Does anyone have more information?  Like,
has it been released?
-- 
Patrick S. Clark | Just crank that volume to the point of pain.
Email is life!   | Why waste good music on a brain?
Usual Disclaimer | --Spinal Tap, "Heavy Duty"
From: stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: _Susperia_
Date: 11 Nov 1992 11:43:49 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1992Nov9.224541.1260@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

>Who put out the Letterboxed "Collectors Edition"?


I think all the versions have been released by Magnum Entertainment.



Orlando
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: paige@csri.toronto.edu (The Woodsman)
Subject: Re: Hellraiser II - the lost cut scenes.
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:57:12 GMT

  There's an unrated version of Hellraiser 2 floating around here (Toronto)
 that contains perhaps four or five minutes of new footage. There's a nasty
 bit of gore at the beginning (flashback to H-1) and the scene where the
 doctor takes the insane patient to his house and gives him a straight
 razor (I wince whenever I see that). There's a few other scenes but the
 part with the Cenobites in doctor's robes ain't there.

	Too bad.

			Rich


-- 

Rich Paige DCS/CSRI     paige@csri.toronto.edu
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: American Psycho?
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 12:10:01 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Socioanarchy and a bit of feudalism

ch730@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Quill) writes:

> 
> After reading this book, I was wondering if there are any other books along a
> 

 
 I recommend Rex Miller's novels, especially "Slob" and "Slice". 
Hmmm...the whole genre of psycho lit. is filled with reams of bullshit, 
so you may have to sift through piles of crap before finding something 
BOTH twisted AND well written. Good luck.
 
marlowe

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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: Re: HPL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:53:00 GMT

philip marlowe (pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca) wrote:
:  
:  Let's face reality here -- HPL was a LOUSY writer. His prose was so 
: thick and convoluted that it's almost impossible to read -- almost 
: Milton-esque, in a strange kind of way.
:  
:  That said, I do read his stuff every now and again because his 
: imagination ALMOST overcomes the turgid prose...not an easy thing to do.
:  

Expect a LOT of e-mail.
	--MLM
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: wlaite@hydra.unm.edu (Winter Laite LAW)
Subject: SUREFIRE
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:26:47 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

SUREFIRE, a hypertext/database/spreadsheet program
for ms-dos, is now available for ftp from oak.oakland.edu
and SIMTEL, pub/msdos/hypertext or pd1:<msdos.hypertext>
respectively. Look for surefi-1.zip and surefi-2.zip.
Good documentation - shareware - very impressive.
Winter


Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: sivand@eng.auburn.edu (Sivand Lakmazaheri)
Subject: Re: Hypertext package for Sun (KMS)
Reply-To: sivand@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:06:31 GMT

> I am looking for an address for a manufacturer of Hypertext software for
> the Sun.  I tried to locate KMS in Pittsburgh, PA, but they seem to have
> moved (or gone out of bussiness) without a forwarding address or phone number.
> Does anyone have their address or any other manufacturer's address?

Try HyperLook, which is an interactive system for devloping hypertext/multimedia
applications. Hyperlook is developed at Turing Institute, the address is:

The Turing Institute
36 North Hanover Street
Glasgow G1 2AD
Scotland

Tel: +44 41 552 8858
Fax: +44 41 552 2985
Email: hyperlook@turing.com

You can get the HyperLook runtime system via anonymous ftp from:

ftp.uu.net       graphics/NeWS/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z
turing.com       pub/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z

-Sivand 

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: miller@utklib.lib.utk.edu (Tamara Miller)
Subject: Toolbook group
Organization: University of Tennessee Library
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:51:25 GMT

The Toolbookers can be found at:

toolb-l@uafsysb.uark.edu
 
*******************************************************************
Tamara Miller
millert@utkvx
miller@utklib.lib.utk.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: sivand@eng.auburn.edu (Sivand Lakmazaheri)
Subject: Re: Hypertext package for Sun (KMS)
Reply-To: sivand@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:07:40 GMT


Try HyperLook, which is an interactive system for devloping hypertext/multimedia
applications. Hyperlook is developed at Turing Institute, the address is:

The Turing Institute
36 North Hanover Street
Glasgow G1 2AD
Scotland

Tel: +44 41 552 8858
Fax: +44 41 552 2985
Email: hyperlook@turing.com

You can get the HyperLook runtime system via anonymous ftp from:

ftp.uu.net       graphics/NeWS/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z
turing.com       pub/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z

-Sivand 

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: sivand@eng.auburn.edu (Sivand Lakmazaheri)
Subject: Re: Hypertext package for Sun (KMS)
Reply-To: sivand@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:08:56 GMT

Try HyperLook, which is an interactive system for 
devloping hypertext/multimedia applications. 
Hyperlook is developed at Turing Institute, the address is:

The Turing Institute
36 North Hanover Street
Glasgow G1 2AD
Scotland

Tel: +44 41 552 8858
Fax: +44 41 552 2985
Email: hyperlook@turing.com

You can get the HyperLook runtime system via anonymous ftp from:

ftp.uu.net       graphics/NeWS/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z
turing.com       pub/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z

-Sivand
From: bwilliam@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Huw William Teare Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Hypertext programming for Windows 3.1
Date: 7 Nov 1992 08:29:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
Summary: I need help bad.
Keywords: Help me please!

Well now that I have your attention!

I'm trying to develop soe help files for a Windows 3.1 application, and
the Windows SDK, is not being very helpful.

So to get to the point, where in the world can I find some example files

of Windows 3.1 help files. in their basic Rich Text Format (RTF)

If you can help I'd really appreciate your mail.

Thanks in advance.
                  Bill.

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: WOODWAMM@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (WOODWAMM)
Subject: What is it?
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:35:43 GMT

There are several definitions, but basically, it is reading text in a non
linear, non sequential manner. For instance, if a sentence refers to a
word or concept, and a link was set, you could immediately jump to that
reference.

There are lots of PD/Shareware programs here on the net. You don't really
need much machinery for some of them. There is an excellent Dos program
that will run on a 256k 8088.
Hope that this helps,
Mark
From: dtalmage@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Re: Hypertext package for Sun (KMS)
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:45:27 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <BORCHERT.92Nov9141210@walt.MsState.Edu>, borchert@walt.MsState.Edu (Chris Borchert) writes:
> I am looking for an address for a manufacturer of Hypertext software for
> the Sun.  I tried to locate KMS in Pittsburgh, PA, but they seem to have

The address I have is
	Knowledge Systems
	RD#2 213A Evans Rd.
	Export, PA 15632

Telephone: 412 241 2240
FAX: 412 241 2307

This is about a year old.  I got it from the documentation that comes 
with the ASCII version of the ACM Hypertext Compendium.

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: sivand@eng.auburn.edu (Sivand Lakmazaheri)
Subject: Re: Hypertext package for Sun (KMS)
Reply-To: sivand@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:06:58 GMT


Try HyperLook, which is an interactive system for devloping hypertext/multimedia
applications. Hyperlook is developed at Turing Institute, the address is:

The Turing Institute
36 North Hanover Street
Glasgow G1 2AD
Scotland

Tel: +44 41 552 8858
Fax: +44 41 552 2985
Email: hyperlook@turing.com

You can get the HyperLook runtime system via anonymous ftp from:

ftp.uu.net       graphics/NeWS/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z
turing.com       pub/HyperLook1.5-runtime.tar.Z

-Sivand 

Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
From: WOODWAMM@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (WOODWAMM)
Subject: MaxThink Hypertext
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:49:52 GMT

I have been using TransText and Hyglos for the last couple of months, and have
found them to be very efficient, and economical products. I have constructed
a couple of Hypertext applications at work (about 3-500 files) and have been
amazed at the productivity gain.

This conference has helped me a great deal, and wonder if there is anyplace
that maintains an archive of older articles? If you know of one, or any other
sources for hypertext material/discussion, please drop me a line...
Thanks
Mark Woodward
From: mwk20@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael W Knowles)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: Maintaining a Dynamic Hyperdocument
Summary: So, How DO You Maintain a Large Hyperdoc?
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:46:59 GMT
Reply-To: mwk20@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Michael W Knowles)
Followup-To: alt.hypertext
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Greetings, hyperfolk!  I'm in the process of creating a
workflow process that allows writers to maintain a
large-ish (>300Mb) hyperdoc that can change as much as
50% in a month.  8{)  I'm curious to hear about any
experiences you may have had with hyperdoc maintenance;
I believe I have a handle on it, but input always helps.
(I hate to work in a vacuum.)

Please reply through email; I'll post a summary and my
conclusions to the net.

Thanks Much!  Michael

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