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From: rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE! YOU CAN FIND A REFERENCE IN ANYTHING!
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:47:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <92314.172225RC1DSANU@MIAMIU.BITNET> Ryan Collins <RC1DSANU@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.002703.102@u.washington.edu>, dube@carson.u.washington.edu
>(Ric Dube) says:
>>
>>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
>>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
>>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
>>
>>Use your head!  These things are cliches, spoofs, genre references, etc.
>>Not specific references to little teeny world you've built for yourself.
>>
>>
>>If this is all wrong, then Homer himself is a reference to Roseanne Barr,
>>because she's fat too.
> 
>Hear Hear!! I thought I was the onl one thinking this also!! I love when the
>Simpsons put something in that is subtle, but I don't think the writers
>dig up old movies to make references to them!!!!

I remember about six months ago I posted something similar to this and I got 
flamed to no end (I'm sure the remark about Marge's pubic hair being blue didn't
help either).

So I'll say it again.  Watch the cartoon, enjoy it, take it for what it's worth
and move on.  It's only a fucking cartoon! Get a life!
Maybe the Simpsons are a reference to all the weenies of the world who spend
more time at a computer than with people.  A bunch of nobodys.

THE ROBBER BARON

(It might be blue?)
From: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.COM (Gillett, David)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re:  Ref. Reach
Date: 6 Nov 1992 23:11:17 -0500
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)

     I'll bite:

     Smithers' "Pleasant dreams, Mr. Jones" was originally from an episode of
_Barnaby Jones_ (private eye series starring the guy who played Jed Clampett).

                                      Dave Gillett

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From: fstuart@eng.auburn.edu (Frank Stuart)
Subject: Re: YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE! YOU CAN FIND A REFERENCE IN ANYTHING!
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:11:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.014729.27758@cs.wisc.edu> rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes) writes:
>In article <92314.172225RC1DSANU@MIAMIU.BITNET> Ryan Collins <RC1DSANU@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>>In article <1992Nov8.002703.102@u.washington.edu>, dube@carson.u.washington.edu
>>(Ric Dube) says:
>>>
>>>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
>>>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
>>>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
[etc]

Where can I ftp the program that scans articles in a.t.s. for the word 
'reference' and automatically posts a flame?


Frank Stuart           |   grep: dead.trees: Permission denied
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From: nowikoam@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Tony Nowikowski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:50:17 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Nov6.023729.13799@news.columbia.edu>, egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
> In article <1dckliINN6ci@cs.widener.edu> STOLLER@dickinson.edu (Stoller, Richard) writes:
>>
>>--My initial impression is that it was a very uninspired
>>episode!

Gosh, I thought it was hilarious!

Best moment:  Marge meekly pushes a button and two employees run screaming,
followed by a fireball and black smoke.

Best line:  Grandpa: "Oral thermometer my eye!  Think warm thoughts boy, 'cuz
this is mighty cold!"  
(Although that's two episodes in a row that they're gotten a laugh from someone
having something unceremoniously shoved up their ass ...)

Most Politically Topical Line: Homer: "Look at that headline: 'Canada To Hold
Referendum'.  Sorry, Marge ..."

I will say, though, that I think it was a cheap ploy by Fox to use Homer's
line, "Marge, get my gun!" in the ad for the episode, making it look like the
line referred to Burns and not the foundation repairman.

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|  University of Cincinnati   | Homer:  "Yeah, but what are ya gonna do?"      |
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From: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: STEAMBOAT ITCHY
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

Steamboat Itchy had me rolling in the aisles, so to speak. I nearly bust
a gut laughing. That was perhaps the best I&S cartoon I have ever seen.
And, yes, the resemblance of Itchy to Mickey Mouse is startling.
Complete with the same design, and the suspenders and everything. And
the best part of the episode is where Itchy pulls out the gun and blows
away Scratchy's knees. Truly classic!

Also, I loved the other one where Itchy was wanting to run over Scratchy
in the train, but the engineer wouldn't let him conduct the train, so
Itchy rushes off to engineer's school. Utterly hilarious....

chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
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Subject: Re: Renandstimpyification of OFF
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:43:41 EDT
Followup-To: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy, alt.tv.simpsons
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

In article <1992Nov1.171803.5745@ee.ryerson.ca>, cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam) writes:
> atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller) writes:
>>
>>ST702459@brownvm.brown.edu () writes:
>>
>>>The RenandStimpyification of The Simposons is evil! If people want to watch
>>>the rapid cuts, inane plots and crashbang action of Ren & Stimpy, let them
>>>watch Ren & Stimpy.
>>
>>Funny, I haven't noticed any such thing in the Simpsons.
>>
>>>Lisa the Beauty Queen had way too much of it.
>>
>>Say what??
> 
> I wouldn't say there was too much of it, but I would like to suggest
> that there was bit of a dig on R&S in that episode:
> 
> When Lisa got her "cartoon drawing" done, I thought that the drawn
> image had a very strong touch of Ren & Stimpy drawing characteristics
> to it.
> 
> Then Homer said, "Lisa, that's how you would look if you were a cartoon."
> 
> The insult implied being, R&S are "just a cartoon", and of course,
> 
>     OFF is not *just* a cartoon!
> 
> Cal.

Matt Groening is supposedly big fan of R&S....He would never hurt them.

On a side note, if you say "Oprah: Behind The Scenes" last night, note
how much Matt and John Kricfalusi (of R&S fame) look alike!  They both
have blackish curly hair, glasses, beards, and looks!  Maybe they're
twins or genetic mutants. :)

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From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: "obvious" reference?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 15:40:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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From a previous article:
James Willer: >>[9F04] Treehouse of Horror III                 10 Nov 92 18:16
torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:
 
>>         Well, they *are* making me... dizzy.  Ooooohhh..
>> After locking the suitcase, Homer drops it down the Bottomless Pit (``Good
>> byeeeee, Dolly.'')  A gangster bids arrivederci to a body bag and throws it
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Didn't anyone comment on this obvious reference??




WHAT IS THE OBVIOUS REFERENCE?

Steve
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Oct 22 - hidden symbolism?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:32:57 GMT

Why "Shakespeare"?

Torsten at Omaha
From: fjs@phazer.ksu.ksu.edu (Snowdog)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Bill Clinton on Simpsons--Announcement
Date: 6 Nov 1992 14:09:14 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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For those of you interested, this story appeared on page D1 of Friday's USA Today
paper;


....but it won't be until February that President Clinton will appear on 'The
Simpsons' with Krusty the Clown, who is campaigning for higher office in
Springfield.  Like `Murphy', 'The Simpsons` filmed two different
versions of the scene, just in case.................
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Marge gets a Job - MISC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:26:12 GMT

giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:

>In article <1992Nov5.213614.10996@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>>*SPOILERS* AND PROOF!!!!
>

>Here's a DYN:
>Just before the news story about the gathering of people are the 
>Simpson house, there was the end of a story that went something 
>like, "...leaving the Vice President in charge of the White House."

There appears to be more to the joke than that: in the picture of the
White House, there's something resembling an erupting volcano right
next door.  Can anyone make that out?

                        --Steve Stelter
                          sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: "john russell" <john.russell@canrem.com>
Subject: maggie driving
Reply-To: "john russell" <john.russell@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:07:41 EST

I always thought the point of Maggie driving in the opening was that you
couldn't tell who was _really_ driving.

John
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From: jeffj@crash.cts.com (Jeff Jungblut)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: I Can't Believe It's...
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:29:36 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In <1dlp29INN432@cs.widener.edu> david.CLark@analog.COM (David Clark) writes:

> I think the name of the law firm "I Can't Believe It's a Law Firm" is from 
>the ever popular info-mercial with Troy McClure called, "I Can't Believe They 
>Invented It!" It was in the first season's episodes, I believe. Also, the 
>lawyer (I forget his name) sounded alot like Troy himself. The info-mercial had
>Dr. Nick (again I forget the last name) showing off the products.

>                 Dave "I Can't Believe It's a Newsgroup!" Clark

I thought it was in reference to the commercials for "I can't believe it's 
not butter!"
From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Marge gets a job - more stuff
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:35:00 GMT
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Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov8.181816.13656@athena.mit.edu>, frisch1@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan Katz) writes...
>>Anyway... the Empire Strikes Back reference was neat.
> 
>_What_ Empire Strikes back Reference?

	When Burns and Smithers were looking at their employees on the
bank of monitor screens in their office, the "Death March of the Imperials",
or whatever it's called, that famous piece from the Star Wars Trilogy,
is played in the background.  This was the music you always heard whenever
there was a shot of a Star Destroyer, or Darth Vader walking up and down the
bridge.
	Obviously, Burns is a descendant of James Earl Jones :)

						Jason Miller

>-- 
>Jonathan Katz 
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Justice Bart (was Re: I&STM)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:36:58 GMT

bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley) writes:


>flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) says:
>>One thing which was disappointing about it is that we actually get to see that
>>Bart will become a Supreme Court justice.  

>Yes.  He seemed so... tired.  So... dulled.  The Anti-Bart.

True.  On the other hand, at least we are reassured that Homer will be alive
six months from now.


                              --Steve Stelter
                                sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Crabby Didja Notices for the Bart's Girlfriend Episode
Date: 14 Nov 1992 03:55:59 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

=o= Plain old didja notices are a tad dry, so I thought I'd
throw in some kvetching.  If you don't like it, eat my shorts.

=o= Didja notice . . .

    . . . that in one establishing shot of the Simpsons'
    house, the sky was orange, presumably from the pollution
    from all the burning tires?  Either that or my friends'
    TV is screwing things up.

    . . . that the interracial couple is in no way a reference
    to the movie _Zebrahead_, but that we'll probably have a few
    hundred messages suggesting that they were, or were from
    _Tucker_ or somesuch?

    . . . that Marge's allergies jibe well with Smithers' claim
    that "women and sefood [sic] don't mix?"

    . . . that Laura's red dress might be a reference to
    something, like _Lady_in_Red_, which was so mind-numbingly
    stupid that I couldn't watch all of it, which is why I don't
    know whether it really is a reference?

    . . . that the heart removal scene was not a reference to
    _Indiana_Jones_in_the_Temple_of_Doom_, the worst Indiana
    Jones movie ever, despite the nifty hat rescue scene (which
    was . . . recapped <insert Kent Brockmanlike chuckle here>
    in the Milhouse In Love episode)?

    . . . the reference to _Miracle_on_34th_Street_?  Or maybe
    it's 42nd Street, or 59th, I don't know.  Who cares about
    New York City anyhow?  It's completely overrated.  As is
    Macy's:  They always set up shop on some street with a
    number on it to maintain some myth that they're some kind
    of big deal big city shop, when in actuality all they really
    want is to be another mall department store, like they are
    in San Jose.

    . . . that the pizza delivered to Homer in the courtroom was
    clad in the colors (but not the official patented packaging)
    of Dominos Pizza?  The scummiest pizza business of all --
    don't get me started on them!

    . . . that Lisa sighing romantically over the notion of a
    worthless loser rebel type is so completely out of character
    that only alien abduction and implanted mind-
    control devices could explain it credibly?            .-.  .-.
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From: mrapp@cc.swarthmore.edu (Michael Rapp)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: *MAGGIE SPEAKS-DEC.3 EPISODE*
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:37:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Center

Reprinted (without permission) from an article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer
by Gail Shister:

SILENT SIMPSON SPEAKS	

Elizabeth Taylor (!) will supply the voice when baby Maggie speaks her first
words on The Simpsons Dec.3.
What will she say? Creator Matt Groening hasn't even told the folks at Fox what
profound observation Maggie will offer. And mum's the word among the producers
at SImpsons-ville. Fox plans to run a promotion about it, inviting viewers to
guess her first words.
In the episode, titled "Lisa's First Word", the Simpsons try to get the
pacifier-sucking Maggie to talk. Homer reminisces about Lisa's first word and
how Bart reacted to having a new sib. Remembering how horrible it was to be
around all that screaming, Homer realizes it's lucky that Mag is mum.
As she's being tucked in that night, of course, Maggie speaks.  


                               Michael
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From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Well...
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:42:59 GMT

	I'm not impressed with your knowledge...  I posted a question
about 2 weeks ago, and I haven't gotten a reply... :)

	At any rate, since something MUST have gone wrong <grin>, I'll
repost the question.

	What was the name of the Head in the episode where Bart
donates his blood to Burns.  The head is the gift from Burns to the
Simpson's for saving his life.

Thanks again...

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From: jmg20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  911  James Gouldsbury)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re:Hallowen
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:19:22 GMT
Reply-To: jmg20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (  911  james gouldsbury )
Distribution: alt
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Dublin,IRELAND.


      Maybe I'm a little late with this:
            When Marge walks up to Smithers and Burns in the King Homer
            B/W piece she has a newspaper and we see the add she spotted.
            Immediately above this ad can be seen another ad, part of it
            reads something like
                    Do you like pina colada,or getting caught in the rain
                    ............in the dunes of the cape,then you're the
                    lady I've looked for come with me and escape.
            Ha Ha well I laughed.
            In the ad below Marges theres some reference to the film SWF,
                    Help me escape from the clutches of death,
            or something like that.
            CHEERS.
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From: will@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (William Sadler)
Subject: Re: Who was playing air-hockey with Hendrix
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:16:30 GMT

In <1992Nov12.022349.9292@udel.edu> wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr) writes:

>Can anyone find a conclusive reason that it is *not* Bach?

Someone insisted that the persona in question had little square
glasses on-- which would definitely make him look a whole lot like
Ben Franklin and very little like Bach.  But, I could not make out
these glasses off of my video. So, I still think it is JS Bach.

Mozart is out of the question.  Especially after that horrid movie. There
is no way he could be depicted as chubby.  In reality, no one really
knows what he looked like for sure. There are a lot of pictures that are
all totally different from one another.

Will                          '
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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [9F04] Treehouse of Horror III
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:18:27 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:

>> Ned:     Well Sui Doloks; you rascal, [chuckle] I thought you were dead.
>What is meant by "Sui Doloks"?

It's her name. "Sue ????".
From: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 12:26:23 GMT
Organization: The Lutefisk Watch, Sector 7G
Reply-To: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
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In a previous article, George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris) says:

>In article <1992Nov09.185046.28825@sco.com> jondr@sco.com writes:
>>
>>not at all!  remember "blood feud" (conveniently rerun just a few weeks
>>ago)?  burns is going to destroy homer but smithers asks him to relent,
>>which he does... and then buys the simpsons a $30K olmec warrior god
>>sculpture!!
>
>	No, Desi.  Not Olmec.  Aztec!

"Actually, son, it's a big ugly Olmec Indian head."

 -Bucky "Bargain Basement Baudelaire" Whaley

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From: hot@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (henry.o.tirado)
Subject: Re: Marge gets a Job - MISC
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:25:21 GMT

In article <BxB7Bq.2tI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov5.213614.10996@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>>Here's a DYN:
>>Just before the news story about the gathering of people are the 
>>Simpson house, there was the end of a story that went something 
>>like, "...leaving the Vice President in charge of the White House."

>There appears to be more to the joke than that: in the picture of the
>White House, there's something resembling an erupting volcano right
>next door.  Can anyone make that out?

Wasn't a volcano ... that portion of the White House was on fire, meaning
ol' Quayl(e) started the fire during his house sitting.  Hilarious!

-hot

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From: toad@cellar.org (Tony Shepps)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Bart in Japan,,
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:00:00 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller) writes:
 
> who decided that the Simpsons were up for grabs as celebrity
> spokescartoons?  I'm really hoping it was the suits at Fox and not our hero
> Mr. Groening, as it would severely sadden me if he let it happen.

Oh yeah?  Whyzat?  D'ya think that BART is selling out if he's seen in
commercials as well as a network television show?  (I know, how COULD he
endorse a product that he doesn't use!)  Do a few more 30-second adverts
lead to overexposure?  Tell us, tell us!

--
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