HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Subject: Re: Comics Mailing Lists ...
Reply-To: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:19:55 GMT

In article <angus.721430427@well.sf.ca.us> angus@well.sf.ca.us (Angus P. MacDonald) writes:
>In <4NOV199212104807@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG) writes:
>
>>Hi there,
>
>>Can someone please E-mail me the names of the available comics-related 
>>mailing lists?  A few people have mentioned "Comics-L" (?), are there any 
>>others?  I'm not at all familiar with mailing lists, ftp, etc, so some 
>>directions in subscribing would be much appreciated.  A summary of the 
>>typical topics of discussion would also be helpful.
>
>>Thanks in advance,
>> - Wayne.
>> =========================================================================
>>    W     A     Y     N     E     .     A     .     W     O     N     G
>> =========================================================================
>>                                                SEWON@LIMS01.LERC.NASA.GOV
>
>Same here. Thanks.
>
>Angus MacDonald           angus@well.sf.ca.us
>Box 561, Concord, California, USA, 94522-0561

In fact, why not post this info to the net. I'm sure a lot of people would
appreciate it.





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This is my test sig

ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
From: @oswego.Oswego.EDU (Edward G. Farrell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Dark Horse: Terminator and Godzilla
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:27:23 GMT
Organization: SUNY OSWEGO


     I just finished with TERMINATOR: ENDGAME and I think that I'm happy that the series is finally over.
The characters were becoming very shallow and like most of DARK HORSE's characters were nothing
more than stereotypes. I was really upset with the ending. Having John Conner become Jane Conner was
rather pointless, although it didn't come as a surprise. As soon as I read the caption "The future is not 
set" I sayed to myself, "The baby's going to be a girl". It was so predictable given DARK HORSE's orientation
    Yet my tone should not be so pessimistic. The Terminator series provided alot of  action and the machines
themselves were well done. On the whole I found the series worthwhile. I'm just dissapointed with such
a washout ending.
    Does anyone know what company will be picking up Terminator next? I heard the license was given to
a different company but I did not hear what one.
    DARK HORSE's GODZILLA  COLOR SPECIAL  was a much better book. I have never seen a better Godzilla
in print. Fortunately the humans were downplayed and the monsters were concentrated on. I loved the
fight with Gekido-jin. I hope DARK HORSE will continue to use the Godzilla character. I had thought the
fight with Gekido-jin was suppose to be a four part series. Does anyone know what happened?
    Has anyone heard of anymore projects concerning Godzilla within DARK HORSE. I thought they were
planning an adaption of GODZILLA VS. BIOLLANTE, but I havent heard anything about it in a long time.
    One more thing, when are the following books coming out, THE THING: CLIMATE OF FEAR #3, ROBOCOP
VS. TERMINATOR #3, and PREDATOR VS MAGNUS ROBOT FIGHTER#1? 



                                                                                                                                 -Ed
From: andrew@cs.chalmers.se (Andrew Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Convergences: Themes?
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:32:25 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden

USENET's Chuck writes:

>That was poorly put, but I basically thought the convergence was between
>fiction and reality.

And dreams are (or The Dreaming is) where reality and fiction converge.

>Chuck

Andy
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Get rid of the Legion of Net Heroes.
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 07:43:21 GMT

Is anyone as sick of the LNH as I am?  They have their own group (alt.lnh or
some such thing) but still, somewhere in the order of 20% or more of the 
messages here are LNH messages.  They're a dreadful waste of bandwidth
(especially as I see that the last few are crossposted to THREE newsgroups).

I prefer not to read them.  Unfortunately, with the numerous and varied
posting titles, it is impossible to KILLFILE them all.

Straw poll, please.  Who would prefer the LNH posts to be removed from r.a.c.
misc as off-topic?

E-mail me with opinions, and I'll summarize.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
-------
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From: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth
Organization: The Ohio State University
          kristoff
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:10:34 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
From: andrew@cs.chalmers.se (Andrew Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: new HELLBLAZER reader...needs background...
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:42:09 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden

Everyone's favourite mysterious ancestor, Lady Johanna Constantine writes:

>Not the First of the Fallen.  That's Lucifer Morningstar, as a recent issue
>made clear.  It is the Adversary himself, who was already in Hell when 
>the Morningstar got there, that John pissed off.  It has recently been
>mentioned in alt.mythology that Lucifer was never Satan, but was thought os
>due to a misreading for a bible passage.

Alt.mythology?  You mean there's a place on the net other than Hellblazer and
Sandman threads in r.a.c to discuss mythology?  Anyway, the passage that was
misread seems to imply that Lucifer should really be identified with
Nebuchadnezzar (sp?).  Can anyone shed any light on how the big N. becomes
the First of the Fallen (in HB's version of mythology or any other)?

>I too like Mr. Ennis's John, though I fear I may be in the minority on this
>issue.  I also love Neil Gaiman's take on him in BoM II.

Well, I'm disappointed with some parts, like JC being more free with his
usage of power, and the book getting more heavy-handed and less witty.
But we still love him, Lady Johanna, honest.  And ditto with Neils's version
in BoM.  "Charge of the Trenchcoat Brigade."

Possible spoilers (if you haven't read much HB, esp. "Dangerous Lives"):

He's still as rough as he ever was, and if anything, he's got his life under a
bit more control, and I really like that part of it.  Reader thinks: "Having
Satan after your arse is an example of good control?"  Actually I meant that
he's more confident that he knows what is going on now then he was, say, when
he was hanging out with Zed and Merc and Errol the Bollocks, etc.  He always
seemed a bit unsure of what was happening, and he let himself be led a lot more
(until he discovered himself in the bizarrely-shaped cave).  It's probably the
hippy in me, but I have a sentimental attachment to the gypsy-living
storylines.

Thinking back, it's only since "Royal Blood" that I've actually been
disappointed with some parts of HB.  The JC in the "I've Got Lung Cancer,
Think I'll Glass Satan, Trick Him And His Mates Into Saving Me And Then Give
Him The Finger" storyline was great.  Lately, HB seems to be much more
heavy-handed.  Did no-one else cringe at the last page of the current ish?
"He is my Satan."  Bloody hell.

But _apart_ from those crits, HB's still in my top five.  

>LJC

Andy

--------
"I think there should be a bit less of the `Get thee behind me Satan!' and
 a bit more of the `Come in, me old mate, and have a cup of tea.'"
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Scav's survey?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:51:15 GMT

In article <16896E9AF.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> mason writes:
>If the results for this have already been posted, then
>I missed them.  Did anyone log a copy that they could
>forward to me?
> 
>If they haven't been posted, then where are they?  Scav?
> 
>-- mason

Hi, y'all haven't missed anything.  I've been having a lot of problems with 
the program that was gonna sort the reponces for me (I was even go try doing 
them by hand--eesch).  Anyway, some friends of mine are like unto compu-gods
and ther're helping me get things strait.  So the results will be posted soon.
(I hope, I hope, I hope)

As fate would have it, my news server is screwed again (just like when I posted
the Survey--ironic-huh.)  I figure this article should show up at y'alls sights
around monday.  (If you see it before then, let me know, eh?)


-----SCAVENGER
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    your .net on!                               |      (Internet/Usenet)
You don't have to be crazy to be in the LNH,    |  "Oh Bite Me!  It's fun"
    But it helps!!!                             |         -Crow T. Robot (MST3K)
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: MARVEL: Thor
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:22:13 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov10.204902.17571@midway.uchicago.edu> esti@quads.uchicago.edu (Paul A. Estin) writes:


+>[This is being posted for Danny Young.]

+>Hey I just wanted to ask if anybody knew the issues of Thor that
+>Walt Simonson drew before the Beta Ray Bill Era.  I know it is some
+>where in the mid 200's, but does anyone know the exact numbers.

	Probably 261-271.  I know he did 264-266 and some but not
all of the rest of the range.


+>Also hasn't Jim Starlin written Thor before?  

	Not that I'm aware of.


+>Well I'm pretty excited
+>about the real Thor being back.  I hope he starts kicking some butt
+>again

	I scanned the newest thor in a shop today and it seems to indicate
that Defalco is going to keep the hammer in the hands of his mock-thor.
I'm very curious as to what Starlin plans to do with the book.
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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: lsh back issues
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:20:27 GMT

In article <vanyel.721419022@camelot> vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams) writes:
>I recommend the stories featuring the first appearance of Mantis Morlo (I
>forget the ish numbers--somewhere around _Adventure_ 355-65).  It's a

#362-363. 359-360 wwas Outlaw Legion, 361 was the "Unkillables" and the
first appearance of the Dominators, 364 was a Legion of Super-Pets story,
365-366 was the Fatal Five and the intro of Shadow Lass, 367 was a new
HQ intro, intro of the Dark Circle, pick up the pieces, and find out something
about Karate Kid, 368 was the second "Revolt of the 'girl' Legionnaries"
story, and 369-370 introed Mordru. Rather busy year there.

"By the way, there was a Legion of Super-Pets"
"But it isn't a nominee because:
1) It would be redundent.
2) It was only an auxiliary of the Legion of Superheroes
3) DC admitted its existence in Who's Who, and 
4) There are a lot of humorless Legion fans out there, and some of them
   probably have guns."  --World's Worst Comics Awards
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: sbrown@nyx.cs.du.edu (Simon Brown)
Subject: SLAINE/TRIAL OF VENOM
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 03:16:53 GMT


I was browsing through November 1992 issue of HEAVY METAL and noticed that
(in the back issues list) Simon Biz did a SLAINE story in the JANUARY 1991
issue.  Did he do any other SLAINE stories ?

I was at my local comic shop the other day and happen to pick up a coupon
for the SPIDERMAN special edition: The Trial of VEnom.  But it says on
the coupon that the offer is valid if u have a US continential mailing
address.  Does this mean it is not available to overseas readers ?


                                                  BrownianMovement
------------------------------------------------------------------
"Under Fragger and not a least bit fragging proud of it."
"FRAGmentation - act of cutting up into little pieces."

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From: mason
Subject: Re: Yet another ElfQuest fan.
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:43:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.160921.27053@alf.uib.no>
yngvar@imr.no (Yngvar Foelling) writes:
 
>One major problem I had with the story "Kings of the Broken Wheel" was that
>I could never figure out what it really was _about_.  What was the title
>supposed to mean?
 
Remember the wheel Rayek drew in the Scroll of Colors when he was
explaining the Accident to Skywise?  From the beginning (at the top)
somewhere in the distant future, back to the past (at the bottom), when
the Wolfriders were born of Timmain, and finally around again toward
the future, where the Accident waits.  Only Rayek broght the palace
forward through time, passing so many years.  The Wolfriders slept
through them.  The wheel was broken.
 
As for the "Kings", I would say that they are the two opposing "chiefs":
Cutter and Rayek.  One flew the palace, the other walked the hard road
of years, but both "broke the wheel", if you will.
 
 
-- mason
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: Watchmen ftp site?
Keywords: watchmen
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na,local
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:15:02 GMT

In article <10NOV199220372847@milori.ccit.arizona.edu> yingst@milori.ccit.arizona.edu (JIM YINGST) writes:
>OK, I've found out that there are files at farut.sys.toronto.edu, located in
>pub/comics/watchmen.  Some files may require use of the UNIX command 'fold' 
>to get acceptable line lengths, but most of the files look fine to me.  
>Thanks to Windsor Morgan for answering my original query (the only one to do
>so!)  I'm posting here for those others who also wanted to know.

Actually, it has been brought to my attention that the site mentioned
above is incorrect; it is actually ferut.sys.toronto.edu (128.100.2.220).

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Watchmen ftp site?
Keywords: watchmen
Date: 14 Nov 92 03:18:44 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Cc: castle

In article <1992Nov12.201502.14709@stsci.edu>, wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
|> In article <10NOV199220372847@milori.ccit.arizona.edu> yingst@milori.ccit.arizona.edu (JIM YINGST) writes:
|> >OK, I've found out that there are files at
|> >pub/comics/watchmen.
|> 
|> Actually, it has been brought to my attention that the site mentioned
|> above is incorrect; it is actually ferut.sys.toronto.edu (128.100.2.220).

There's a watchmen Sun Rasterfile (of 'smiley' button with
drop of blood running down the face) that you can get from
	larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu on /poskbitmaps
OR	lth.se			on /pub/images/poskanzer

(Rasterfile is called "watchmen")

///
o-O o o I have no .sig
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: The Seventh Endless: David (was Re: Sandman #44)
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:53:22 GMT

Okay, I thought this song was a fairly standard childhood thing.
Apparently not!  It's traditional, and dates back to at least the 17th
century. 
-- 
More than any time in history, mankind now faces a crossroads. One path leads
to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction.  Let us pray
that we have the wisdom to choose correctly.     -- Woody Allen
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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: lsh back issues
Organization: Interleaf
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:29:31 GMT

In article <sward.721359415@uclagsm> sward@agsm.ucla.edu (Sidne Gail Ward) writes:
>Adventure 340 and 341.  A sentimental favorite, the first LSH issues I
>picked up myself off the stands.  They hooked me for life.  Besides,
>...all, the Bizarro Legionnaire.

Um, wasn't that the Weirdo Legionnaire, given that DC wouldn't reuse 
Bizarro like that? 'Sides, Bizarro Legionnaires appeared in Adventure #329,
and while the Bizarro part was rather poor in retrospect (they didn't carry
it to its illogical conclusion, such as not realizing that they could have
done characters like Anti-Matter-Vomiter Lad...see my Bizarro Legion post
of a year or so back for the whole line-up, which I think Vernon has in
a back Omnicom), it did introduce the flight rings. And was also one of
two times Kal-El turned a diamond into coal (OK, so this time Jan did it;
it's still as silly as it sounds). Btw, these were reprinted in LSHv1, 
a four issue reprint series circa 1973.

Personally, I'd go for Adventure 359-360, the Outlaw Legion, which were my
first issues (well, issue. Didn't see 360 for 10 years or so after getting
the cliff-hanger ending 359). These were reprinted in one issue circa
Legion #238 or so back in the mid-70s.

"Sun Boy gave me a flying belt as consolation for not making the team. It's the
Legion of Super-Heroes home game, that's what it is!" --Polar Boy
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: mason
Subject: Scav's survey?
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:37:03 GMT

If the results for this have already been posted, then
I missed them.  Did anyone log a copy that they could
forward to me?
 
If they haven't been posted, then where are they?  Scav?
 
-- mason
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Sandman
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:40:45 GMT

cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts) writes:
>I know it sounds like alot, but could someone who is a regular reader
>of sandman please give the new readers a brief synopsis of the character
>and what story line the book is trying to tell.  Some origins would help.

Quick summary - someone else will probably type in the encyclopaedic
version.

First, there are no origins.  The Endless, as they are called, are
Death, Dream, Despair, Destruction, Delerium (originally delight), Destiny, 
and Desire.  Dream, our hero, is alternately known as Morpheus or
Sandman.  The endless have been around for a hell of a long time,
since before Cain and Abel at least, and are known to all the races in
the galaxy, and probably the universe.  The characters we see are
anthropomorphic - they look human because that's how we think of them.
To others they appear differently.

Okay, Desire is a real bitch.  No other way to put it.  She's been
playing politics and basically giving dream a hard time.  Destruction
disappeared a few hundred years ago, he's the "prodigal" and is
missing.  Delerium and Dream are on a search for him, and this is the
current story line.  Dream is apparently going along just because he
wants a vacation, he doesn't really want to find Destruction, but he's
humoring Delerium.

We've seen Destruction painting in an island in the sea - he's been
warned of "big ytouble" by one of his devices.  In addition, the head
of Morpheus's son, Orpheus, still lives in a temple near there (this
sounds strange, but it's actual Greek mythology).  We really don't
know what's up with these characters.

All we know is that they're on a quest to find Destruction, and people
they want to talk to keep dying (or coming close to it), and the
driver who was accompanying them died.

The best way to find out is to find "Preludes and Nocturnes," the
trade paperback that reprints the first 8 or so issues, and read it.
And then, since you'll be addicted, you can pick up the rest.  I think
they're reprinted through issue 26 or so.
-- 
Faith is one of those words that connotes, however irrationally, some kind of
virtue in itself. -- Halle
From: justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael John Stiehl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: 2099
Date: 5 Nov 1992 20:28:46 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
	I recently got done reading the last issue of Spiderman 2099 and
	on the letters page it said that they were thinking about adding
	another 2099 line.
	Now I could be wrong but it sounded like they wanted our input on
	who should be in this new 2099 title.  
	Well even if I'm wrong about them wanting our input about new 2099
	titles, heres my ideas about who would make a good 2099 title.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

	1.  Iron Man 2099:  It would be cool to see who is in the armour
	in 2099, and what sort of cool new weapons it would have.

	2. Fantastic Four 2099:  I think finding out what happens to Franklin
	Richards in the future would be interesting.  Plus it would be an all
	new cast.  The possiblities are endless. (As long as DeFalco has nothing
	to do with it.)


	Well those are my ideas for new 2099 titles.  What does anybody else
	think would make good 2099 titles?

	Justice

	justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: Jesus Christ SuperHero
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:34:04 GMT

Check out Foolbert Sturgeon's THE NEW ADVENTURES OF JESUS.

[Fine stuff in any case.]

             [Sung to "Supercalifragalisticexpyaladocious"]

                "Pillage, rape and loot and burn, but all in moderation;
                 If you do the things we say, you soon will rule the nation;
                 Kill your foes and enemies, and then kill your relations
                 Pillage, rape and loot and burn, but all in moderation!"
---
                                        Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
INTERNET:     moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Manual UUCP:  {uunet, uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
CREDO:        You gotta be Cruel to be Kind...
                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
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From: pjharris@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: '93 is a'comin'.....
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:06:00 GMT

From the mill...

Cable goes monthly starting March '93.

New:  Secret Defenders
Leader:  Dr. Strange
Cast: Most of the original Defenders
        Plus:
        A rotating cast for team-ups including Wolverine, Gambit, Spidey,
        Ghostrider, Johnny Blaze and Nomad to name a few.

A 2-shot called (tentatively) Spiderman Spectaculars.  First book starts
storyline that continues through a 14 part x-over in the other Spidey titles,
culminating in the second book.  Sorry, no date yet.

If you haven't gotten enuf.....another X title.  X-Men Chronicles; begins
with a plane crash involving Jean, Dr. X and Cyclops.

The Bat-meister gets a new foe...Bane. A 1-shot titled Vengence of Bane.
Noticed Batty's been getting some new blood and butt to kick as of late.
Will they make it to the cartoon series?  Wait and see.....

Flint Henry returns in "Law Dogs" by Chuck Dixon.

New:  Thor Thunderstrike.  Involved:  Masterson, DeFalco and Frenz.

Infinity Crusade, by Starlin and Lim.  A six issue multi x-over...Magus has
a big part.....

Wolverine fans....Mark Texeira is going to be the full-time artist starting
in '93 for the solo book.

Marvel Masterpiece cards...November 17th.

Unity....November 11th.

Marvel moves...it's printing. No longer done in Illinois, now it's hot off
the presses in Alabama.  Please keep an eye out for material quality changes.




I'm like Jack the Bear....outta here.
Peace...


PJH
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