From: siong@fraser.sfu.ca (Siong Heng Chan)
Subject: Re: Muslims converting to other religions in England!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:56:14 GMT

eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:

>Siong Heng Chan (siong@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
>: fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:
>: 
>: >In article <1992Oct8.075137.5803@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>: 
>: >> 	So you muslim students, look after our girls. At least be nice to them.
>: >> This JPA ruling of not allowing students to get married is just stupid. I
>: >> can't blame them when liberal parents are the ones who demanded the ruling.
>: >		        ^^^^^^^
>: >	Shouldn't it be conservative ?
>: 
>: 
>: Yeah right!  This Othman has been constantly contradicting himself!!!!  For
>: some unknown reason!!! :)  What is this, Othman!  Buck up.  If you want to
>: argue, argue/flame correctly!  Contradicting yourself doesn't seem to help in
>: your arguments somehow..... :)
>What do you think I meant? I double checked it and I feel there is nothing
>wrong.
>	HOwever I'm disturbed by the "confidence" of the commentor in the
>truth of his statement. That is the strong evidence of stupidity. He does not
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                         Look WHO is talking!  Okay, maybe I should explain 
what the contradiction is but I thought that that was very clear as everyone
over this end had the same interpretation of your sentence.  What we thought
was that easy going parents wrote in and pestered our government to enforce 
this ruling.  If what you want to say is that BECAUSE OF LIBERAL PARENTS, THE
GOVERNMENT HAD TO ENFORCE THIS LAW, you shouldn't use the word "demanded"!
The right word to use would be "forced the government to take this action!".
I don't think that that was a mistake...  :)  Besides this, I don't get what
you meant when you said that confidence in something you do shows your
stupidity.  Your sentences aren't clear at all, even for the below ones...
Other than that, what are you getting so worked up for?  :)

 
>even bother to explain what the contradiction is.

>This is another example of people who do not know how to think like the other
>side. People make mistakes but intelligent people know how to filter mistakes
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                                    Well, not with your ambigious sentences...

>from the context of the sentence. Sometimes I deliberately not remove any
>mistake just to test the reader.

Yeah right!  Not removing your mistakes to test the readers, that is an age
old excuse!


>	The fact that noone bother to explain to this commenter is another
>indication that this is accepted behaviour.
>	Is this the standard of the culture of the commenter? Isn't it 
>chinese?
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Now this is getting SERIOUS!!!!!  You shouldn't say that at all.  This is 
really a racist statement.  If you noticed, I have never condemned Malays at
all, even with you calling me stupid and all that stuff...  What I wrote is
my own opinion.  YOU SHOULDN'T INVOLVE MY RACE AT ALL!!!!!!!  If you want to 
flame, you FLAME ME!!!!!  Not my race!!!!!!!!  I have never thought that a 
Malay could be as racist as you!  I have lots of GOOD Malay friends and we 
were always giving and taking!  My whole family (including my Great Grand
parents) came from a Kampong among all Malays.  I basically grew up being
the only Chinese in my school and I HAVEN'T MET A MALAY WHO IS AS RACIST AS
YOU!  None of them were.  I certainly hope that my friendship with them remains
as I treasure it!
What do you have against us anyways?

siong

>--
>Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
>Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
>Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
>Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet