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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New Negativland News
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:01:52 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

benji@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Benjamin) writes:

>As Lazlo Nibble already pointed out, a boycott is not the same as
>censorship.  A boycott means *you* won't play SST records; censorship
>means you prevent anyone, anywhere from playing SST records.  In
>otherwords, a boycott is voluntary, censorship is forced.

But if you are sufficiently powerful (say, someone who is directly 
responsible for providing or denying access of someone's work to someone
else....like, I dunno....a music director?), you are in effect being
censorious.

The basic point of boycotts has as an implicit part the notion that no
*single* individual is powerful enough to effect large-scale change due
to the concentration of power (you as a single consumer of oranges 
don't matter that much). The point at which you have some sort of control
over the access that individual users/consumers have, I believe that 
the situation does, indeed, change. And like Mr. Shea, I'm also the kind
of person who tend to have their flags set high by the "yeah, it's 
genocide, but we're killing "bad" people so it's okay" style of argument.
And I guess I think I heard it as well. It doesn't pass the "rotation"
test (swap *my* cause for the person I oppress, and see if it plays).
Are you willing to justify a little short term gain for your position
at the cost of having precisely the same argument used against you in
the future? That's what making policy is all about. Not that it's an
easy thing to do (I've still got the scars from my community radio
board of directors days to prove it), mind you. It merely helps to
stand back and be sensitive about it.

>So let's stop all this talk about censorship, which is more likely to
>promote flames than anything.  Boycott SST if you wish, write a letter
>to Greg Ginn, and let's support our boys in Negativland.

On an individual level, you bet. For my part, I think it's more important
to make *my* audience aware of what the issues are - to "teach the
conflicts", as Gerald Graff puts it. I think I'm abusing my authority
if I do anything else. This is all personal opinion, of course.


--
In the desert I prayed only for mercy, not happiness, not vindication, 
willing to settle. No price can be too high, no cruelty excessive if the 
end finds cruelty exhausted and mercy audible as a hammer's sound in rain.
Gregory Taylor/Heurikon Corporation/8310 Excelsior Drive/Madison WI 52717
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From: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal)
Subject: Re: Looking for songs that *force* you to dance
Summary: oh, this one is TOO EASY ...  
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Keywords:  Jackson, dance
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:41:00 GMT

In article <1jf6q4$i96@agate.berkeley.edu>, oliver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Oliver Sharp) writes...
>So what songs did this for you?

	EVERYTHING UP-BEAT BY ONE OR MORE OF THE JACKSONS.

"Who's Michael Jackson?!"
	-- dialogue from "Hearts Afire", CBS-TV, January 18/93

Rosemary Warren		rwarren@topaz.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!
From: c8ny@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Kon Kan Sample?
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:49:39 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Hi,
	Does anyone know what's being said at the beginning of KK's "I Beg Your
Pardon..." [12" mix] which is the last track on _Move to Move_?  I can't even     
tell if it's English!

John
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From: law40035@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG CHENG KOON)
Subject: Re: Techno recommendations wanted
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:48:22 GMT


I think the main problem we have here is a failure to agree on a
definition of 'Techno' (wow, how did i figure that out, huh).

Because what is called Techno today, overlaps with House & Rave.

Since each faction has their own valid reasons for calling what they
call Techno, Techno, and the general public associates Techno with
(1)  electronic music, or perhaps
(2)  electronic dance music, in particular,
maybe the question should be re-phrased:

i.e. what kind of Techno recommendations do you really want?

Benjamin Ang
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From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: Sappy song question
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 18:56:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.175411.19976@bnrmtl.bnr.ca> miked@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Mike Doskas) writes:
>
>Our aerobics instructor has a cover version of a song whose
>refrain is something like:
>
>  Please don't go, don't go-o-o-oh, don't go away babe
>
>Some people suggested that it was a Bay City Rollers song,
>but I'm sure it wasn't.  I seem to remember, in fact, that
>there have been two popular versions of the song.
>
>Does anyone know the song title, and the artist(s) who sang it?
>
>Thanks in advance...

Could be "Baby Don't Go" by Cher
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From: jhsu@ih-nxt05.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason Hsu)
Subject: Song title and singer/music group
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:56:10 GMT

It must sound like a broken record by now, but what song is this and who  
sings it?

"When there's no getting over that rainbow
When the strongest of dreams won't come true . . . .
 . . . . .
But I won't last a day without you."
From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel video compilations?
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:29:19 GMT

in article <1993Jan21.052038.1653@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, straffin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin) says:
> Does Peter Gabriel have any video compilations available or planned?

In Australia there's a video release called "Cv" which contains all the videos
from _So_ and also has "Shock The Monkey" and "I Don't Remember".  Notable
exceptions are "Games Without Frontiers" and "Solsbury Hill".

I agree it'd be nice to have a more complete collection.  Perhaps after _Us_
has run its course a more complete video will be released.

There's also a live video available.  I haven't looked at it closely so I
can't tell you much about it.

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From: e5tx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: "I am telling you" by Jennifer Holiday
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:41:32 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

I am looking for a song called "I am telling you" by Jennifer Holiday
(spelling?).  I was told that it was from an opera.  Can someone tell me where
can I find this song, especially, what is the name of the CD?  Thanks.

Tim
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jhsu@dcl-nxt51.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason Hsu)
Subject: Re: What are these songs? and related questions.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:20:04 GMT

In article <1jsb8fINNt2o@titan.ucs.umass.edu> yang@titan.ucs.umass.edu  
(HUAYONG YANG) writes:
> Hi, friends! Please tell me what the following songs are and from what
> album I can get them. A million thanks in advance.
> 2. I am pretty sure the singer is Reba McEntire, who sings
>    ... Did you ever know you are my hero
>    you are everything I wish I could be...
"Wind Beneath My Wings" from Bette Midler
> 
> 3. A woman and three men sing:
>    Keep smiling, keep shining
>    Only you can always count on me
>    for sure
>    that's what friends are for
>    in good time, in bad time
>    I'll be on your side forever
>    that's what friends are for

"That's What Friends Are For" by Dionne Warwick 
> 4. This song has lines:
>    ... Home, I wish I were
>    Everyday is an endless string of cigaretts and some magazines
>    And each town looks the same to me
>    the movies on the batteries (?)
>    And every stranger's face I see reminds me of that I long to be
"Homeward Bound" by Simon and Garfunkel
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From: pcxkrm@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (K.R.Marshall)
Subject: Re: music from Patriot Games
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:29:59 GMT

In article <C1Gtu2.6BI@acsu.buffalo.edu> v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (she listens like her head's on fire..) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.074909.15240@trentu.ca>, hhillman@TrentU.CA writes...
>>I believe that the "Enya" song from _Patriot Games_ is actually the theme 
>>from _Harry's Game_. It can be found on Clannad's Greatest Hits album. The 
>>actual name of the album escapes at this early time of the day. 
>>Happy Listening.
>
>the album's name is Anam. I don't know if it is included on Pastpresent which
>is a greatest hits compilation.


NO NO NO NO NO No NO....

I don't know what the song in Patriot Games is, but the Theme from
Harry's Game is on the Clannad album Magical Ring, and the two
compilation albums The Collection, and PastPresent. IT IS NOT on Anam,
which was their latest album.

Keith.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: cfb@bnr.ca (Charles F. Board)
Subject: Re: Songs about . . . uh, "human nature"
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:34:10 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <1993Jan27.224035.4164@ee.gatech.edu>, wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung) writes:
|> In article 260193115603@dcoxmac.nswc.navy.mil, dcox@relay.nswc.navy.mil  (David Cox) writes:
|> >|Can anyone add any songs to this list?  
|> >|
|> >|"Pictures of Lily" by The Who
|> >|"Rosie" by Jackson Browne
|> >|"Donald and Lydia" by John Prine
|> >|
|> >|I'm assuming the common thread does not have
|> >|to be spelled out. Also, I am not familiar with
|> >|Madonna's music, but I assume she may specialize
|> >|in this field. As I write this I remember a less
|> >|elegant treatment of the subject a while back 
|> >|with a song called "I touch myself." Another sign of
|> >|the decline of sophistication in history.
|> 

Cyndi Lauper - She Bop

|> 
|> Sugar walls, written by Prince, sung by Sheena Easton.
|> 
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From: cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk (Hacienda)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Beautiful South
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:31:53 GMT
Organization: Grafton Street
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

J093480@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM wrote:

: Does anyone know if The Beautiful South are planning to release anything new
: this year??  I haven't heard anything since I saw them perform last June.
: Any info is appreciated.

The Beautiful South have released the following singles from the 0898 album :

Old Red Eyes Is Back
We Are Each Other
Bell Bottomed Tear
36D

All of them have new material which was not on the album.  I have listed all
of the UK singles, as I do not know what has been released elsewhere in the
world.  Bell Bottomed Tear came out on two CDs circa June 92.  The first
contained two unreleased tracks, whereas the second contained live material,
including a cover version of the Bee Gee's "You Should be Dancing".  36D came
out September 92, with 2 CDs - one containing two unreleased songs, and another
containing live material (nothing special like before).

The Beautiful South went on a European tour October-November 1992 including
performances at Wembley, NEC and Sheffield Arenas.  

I reckon that the Beautiful South are probably getting ready to going back in
the studio in order to record an album for release maybe late next year.

Incidently, I have been considering compiling a Beautiful South discography -
if anyone would like me to do just that then E-Mail me, and see if I can spare
some time writing one.

Hacienda (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk)
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From: angus@well.sf.ca.us (Angus P. MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Lovemongers (AKA Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:25:58 GMT

In <1993Jan25.214510.19133@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> becker@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (John Becker) writes:

>According to the Recent and Upcoming Releases chart some time ago, there was
>supposed to be a Lovemongers EP titled "The Battle Of Evermore" released in
>November '92. I haven't been able to find this anywhere. Has anyone seen it,
>and if so is it a US release or an import?


>-- 
>|=================================|=================================|
>|  John Becker, Staff Engineer    |     "When The Music's Over,     |
>|  Motorola, Inc., Schaumburg, IL |      Turn Out The Lights!"      |
>|  becker@areaplg2.corp.mot.com   |     James Douglas Morrison      |
>|=================================|=================================|

I saw it Tower Concord (CA) last night. Four songs, w/ the title
tune, a Heart song, a cover that almost made me buy it, and something
else.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Real Life?!?! HA!!)
Subject: Re: Help!!! Fairground Attraction - Eddie Reader
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:00:52 GMT
Keywords: help, music

I just wanted to say thanks a lot to the MANY fans who filled me in on Eddi's
whereabouts.

So, Thanks!!


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From: sri007@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Freddie)
Subject: FISH
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:17:58 GMT


Just bought the new FISH CD.
It's quite good. Tracks are:

1.Questions (By Justin Hawyard.)
2.Boston Tea Party (Who was this by?)
3.Meddle (Pink Floyd.)
4.Apeman (Who was this by?)
5.Hold your head up (Argent)
6.Solo (Sandy Denny.)
7.I know what I like (Genesis.)
8.Jeepster (Mark Bolan.)
9.15 years (David Bowie.)

It's quite a mix of styles, the playing is much neater than
Internal Exile and Vigil and it's obvious FISH had a great time
making it. 
	Bodes well for SUITS! (Coming out next year now.)

The EP (NEVER MIND THE BULLOCKS) which came out last year didn't sell
very well in the UK. But who's surprised. I mean, if people are listening
to shit like Whitney Houston they what would make them buy something
worthwhile?
From: degroomp@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Cure - "Hello, I Love You"
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:06:10 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <C1JBM5.F9n@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, wlambert@sioux.ucs.indiana.edu writes:
> In article <C1J7yx.7AH@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> lavoie@bombardier.ireq-robot  
> (Eric Lavoie) writes:
> 
> ERIC:sorry but I don't remember the title.
> 
> 
> "Rubiyaut" (sp?)
>  
> 
> --
> 
>  Chris L -or- wlambert@acoma.ucs.indiana.edu


I think the spelling is Rubyiat the Label it is on is Elektra and it is
a 2 cd set with new Elektra bands (T.M.B.G., The Cure, and others) doing covers
of old Elektra artists (The Doors, Phil Ochs, and others)
I highly reccomend it even though I do not own it I have heard it before
and I really enjoyed it...

		Matt
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: pcxmrp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (M.Powell)
Subject: Re: Jah Wobble info anyone?
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:16:37 GMT

* Mr.MR.Powell, Chemistry Department,     *   "WAHEY!"       *
*  University Park, Nottingham, NG7 2RD   *  - E. Morecombe  *
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: pcxkrm@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (K.R.Marshall)
Subject: Re: Techno recommendations wanted
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 11:55:27 GMT

In article <dwellman.0pkk@amiganet.chi.il.us> dwellman@amiganet.chi.il.us (Dan Wellman) writes:
>law40035@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG CHENG KOON) writes:
>>- but that's just Techno dance music. there's still good ol' Techno:
>>
>>Depeche Mode
>>OMD
>>Kraftwerk
>>Erasure
>>Human League
>>
>>- which I consider to be the original Techno. any disagreements?
>
>Actually, I think the original term was Techno-pop (but I could be wrong)..
>This included groups like New Order as well..
>
>What is this style called, anyways?  Is it techno-pop?  I think a ways
>back it used to be called alternative until the mainstream MTV folks
>started calling stuff like 10,000 Maniacs alternative..
>
>Anyone got any ideas?
>

These groups form part of a movement known as "futurist" in the UK -
the majors of the movement were groups like Ultravox, Duran Duran,
Human League, Heaven 17, Blancmange, Depeche Mode (their earlier
stuff), Japan and several others.

Techno these days tends to mean electronic rave-type stuff, dance
music.

Keith.
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"Mummy was an asteroid, Daddy was             | Keith Marshall
a small, non-stick kitchen utensil..."        | pcxkrm@unicorn.nott.ac.uk

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From: stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman)
Subject: whatever happened to..?
Originator: stuart@mingus
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:17:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA


Anyone know the whereabouts and/or any activities of the distinctive
keyboardist Michael Ratledge of the original Soft Machine? The last
thing I'm aware of that included him was the 8th Soft Machine album
called "Bundles" (released on Harvest, I think, in the UK back around
1975 or so). He was too talented a musician to just give up playing,
so I take it there were some problems (health, drugs, money?). 

                                         -stuart@apollo.hp.com

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From: d89ph@efd.lth.se (Paer-Olof Haakansson)
Subject: Re: Help!!! Fairground Attraction - Eddie Reader
Keywords: help, music
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:18:06 GMT

On Thomas Dolby's latest album "Astronauts & Heretics" Eddi Reader sings
a duet with Mr Dolby.

You will also find her on Hue & Cry's album "Stars Crash Down" where she
sings what I think is reffered to as "additional vocals" in the booklet
that comes with the cd. I would say addtional vocals comes close but no
cigar to a duet.

I like both the albums but maybe you have to be a Thomas Dolby fan to 
appreciate him to the fullest.

Respectfully,
P-O Haakansson, d89ph@efd.lth.se, Lund Institute Of Technology, Sweden
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for songs that *force* you to dance
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:20:43 MDT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <1jf6q4$i96@agate.berkeley.edu>, oliver@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Oliver Sharp) writes:
>Ok, the 80's are over; the drunken high of the decade of greed is followed
>by ... the decade after.  But one thing the 80's did produce was some
>really kickass dance music.  As a commemoration, I want to put together a
>couple tapes full of stuff that just drags you out onto the floor and
>makes you forget about the era of limits and fiscal responsibility.  
>Musical integrity, socially redeeming values, the hell with all that.
>
>So what songs did this for you?  Here are five of my favorites, just to 
>give you an idea what I mean: 
>
>- Escape Club, "Wild Wild West"
>- Romantics, "What I Like About You"
>- Tone Loc, "Wild Thing"
>- Erasure, "Oh L'Amour"
>- Salt'N Pepa, "Push It"
>
>Help me out, people ... 
>

Dance this mess around - B-52's

Bob
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From: gremlin@camelot.bradley.edu (Stephanie Udry)
Subject: black 47 info wanted
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:48:35 GMT


anybody out there familiar with the band black 47?  i assume their self
titled item that the song "funky ceili" comes from is their first...

btw, from listening to the lyrics, it sounded like ceili is a type of dance
or maybe a drink..any ideas?

is the rest of this album in a similar style to this song?  iof so, i want it!

lyrics would be appreciated to for funky ceili...i doubt they are in any
archive yet


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From: pcxmrp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (M.Powell)
Subject: Re: Techno recommendations wanted
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 11:13:35 GMT

In article <dwellman.0pkk@amiganet.chi.il.us> dwellman@amiganet.chi.il.us (Dan Wellman) writes:
>law40035@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG CHENG KOON) writes:
>>- but that's just Techno dance music. there's still good ol' Techno:
>>
>>Depeche Mode
>>OMD
>>Kraftwerk
>>Erasure
>>Human League
>>
>>- which I consider to be the original Techno. any disagreements?
>
>Actually, I think the original term was Techno-pop (but I could be wrong)..
>This included groups like New Order as well..
>
>What is this style called, anyways?  Is it techno-pop?  I think a ways
>back it used to be called alternative until the mainstream MTV folks
>started calling stuff like 10,000 Maniacs alternative..

If you are still interested in finding out about techno groups
I suggest you should try asking this question again in
alt.rave.

* Mr.MR.Powell, Chemistry Department,     *   "WAHEY!"       *
*  University Park, Nottingham, NG7 2RD   *  - E. Morecombe  *
*   ENGLAND                               *                  *