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From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Wings ' boots
Keywords: Wings' boots
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:17:03 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

takamay@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Yui Takamatsu) writes:

>Are there any boots of early Wings touring the colleges? I've never seen  
>boots of the college tour.  Also, are there any boots of the 1979 tour?  
I have _Oriental Nightfish_ which is a double LP collection released
~79 or 80.  It has stuff from many different sources and the sound
quality varies accordingly.

A) College Tour material:
	Sound quality *sucks*! But where else are you gonna hear
	these versions....
B) Unreleased (and unreleasable) songs (demos?):
	Sound quality varies. Lots of instrumental noodling.
	(Imagine "Lunchbox/Odd Sox" only worse...)
C) Single 'remixes' (actually more like edits):
	Sound quality good. But who needs 'em?
D) Wings Over America material:
	Sound quality is good, but inferior to the official product.
	This stuff seems like they just wanted to put more live
	stuff on the record so they could fill it out. (Nothing
	very different from the official release... )

>Are there Kampuchea boots? I'd love to hear the live version of  
>"Rockestra's theme".  Is the sound quality good on these boots?  Usually  
>these old live boots are audience taped and they SUCK.  

There probably are some Kampuchea boots, but isn't "Rockestra Theme"
on the official release?  Of course, the official release is *way*
out of print....

				James Willer
{the opinions above are proabably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Replay Magazine
Date: 26 Sep 92 23:27:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies

This month's issue of Replay Magazine is a Beatles Special.

1stly, the free CD has, well, supposedly a Beatles track, but it's Let's
Dance, so no Beatle lead vocal. Rest of tracks include Brian May, Small
faces etc.

2ndly, there is an interview with George Harrison, where he discusses various
things like what happens if you tell The Eric Clapton that his amplifier
is feeding back.

3rdly there are some excerpts from one of Lewisholm's latest books.

4thly, there is an article about Lewisholm himself.

5thly there is a collection of 60s photographs by someone whose name I forget
that includes a snap of Macca.

The George interview is the best bit.

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: johniac@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Insanity (was Re: lennon's death)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 21:18:37 GMT
Reply-To: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division, Austin, TX

In article <Oct05.193910.46408@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman) writes:
|> 
|> I figure the guy who shot John Lennon (Chapman, right?) had
|> the ultimate insanity defense.  Anyone who would shoot John
|> Lennon when they had a clear shot at Yoko Ono is truly insane.

That is really tacky.

-- 
John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"It takes a big man to cry.  And it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man."
                                                              -- Jack Handey
From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer )
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Onobox question
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:47:18 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Oct1.154113.2874@wkuvx1.bitnet>, shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer ) writes:
> Yes ... it just means that his ear wasn't that good.
> 
I think i phrased that wrong.  Just because he can't tune his guitar
doesn't make him *not* a musician.  I have considered myself a
musician for a long time (Middle school/high school/college bands and
now guitar/bass/piano) but i am just now getting my ear trained enough to
tune a guitar *well* without a tuner.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: fanyl@vms2.iscs.nus.sg (FAN YENG LOON)
Subject: Re: Beatle "beeps"
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: National University of Singapore Dept. of Computer Sc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 14:47:00 GMT

>In article <1992Sep25.194649.16679@ethome.et.iupui.edu>, damon@tnt.cadcam.iupui.edu writes...
>>> 
>>    I have recorded some of my own sound bytes from my pc and then 
>>converted then to mac then converted them to my office sun.  And I use
>>Help, when a trouble report comes in, Day Tripper intro, for  normal
>>mail.  If anyone want some of these sound bytes or has suggestions on
>>sounds let me know.
>> 
>>  Damon

Yes, could I have the pc sound files please??  Much is appreciated if you could 
upload it to binaries or to our own beatles ftp site!!  Better still, if you 
could e-mail them in UUE format to me.  I could probably play it on my
Soundblaster or even convert it to WAV for Win3.1.  Many thanks!!  *8')

And here are some suggestions of my own:  

"You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)"
"Taxman"  (the spoken count-in)
"It Won't Be Long"  (yeah, it shouldn't take long to compile the darn codes ;^)
"Don't Bother Me"
"Not A Second Time"
"Any Time At All"
"Honey Don't"
"Yellow Submarine"  (something that the skipper spoke)
"Hey Bulldog"  (part of the dialogue at the end, "Hey! You've got it!"
"Don't Let Me Down"
"We Can Work It Out"
"The Ballad of John and Yoko"  ("Christ, you know it ain't easy."
"I've Got a Feeling"
"Hello, Goodbye"  (A lot of words can be lifted off here, "hello", "goodbye", "
go go go", "oh no"
"Two Of Us"  ("We're going home, better be leaving now, goodbye.")
Or any spoken lines in "Let it be" LP like: "Oh my soul", "..pass the audition"
etc.


I hope they are cheeky 'nuff for you.  *8')

--
apple "swingin' low" core  | "The guitar's all right, John,           | Hired.
fanyl@nusdiscs.bitnet      |  but you'll never make a living at it."  | Tired?
fanyl@iscs.nus.sg          |                          - Aunt Mimi     | Fired!
From: marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: What about REMAKES?
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:28:47 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

RE: REMAKES
Another band who recorded Helter Skelter was *surprise* U2.  In Rattle 
and Hum, the give a fair remake the song, introducing it by this 
screamer: " THis is a song (somebody) stole from the Beatles, and now 
we are going to steal it back...When I get to the bottom..."
1) I never knew who the first "thief" was.  Any comments?
2) The song is not bad at all
Other remakes:
Ray Charles' Yesterday (so-so)
Michal Jackson doing Come Together (just awful)
Siouxsie's Dear Prudence (pretty Good)
Brian Adams and Tina Turner's Get Back (disgustingly ironic)
Basically, there are two things you can do with a Beatle's song: if 
you are good, take the song, make it suit your style, give it new 
synergy.  It'll never be as good, but you'll have a good time. (u2, 
S&tB, RayC).  If you don't have a clue (all the rest), don't humiliate 
yourself...
More: Did you know that when Epstein took the Beatle's to their first 
audition at EMI, the Studio considered they were OK, but that the only 
good things they sang were covers.  (This is when the F-F did their 
standard routine covers of Twist and Shout, Rock and Roll music and 
others).  Eventually with She Loves Me and Love me Do they convinced 
somebody they could write, but for a some time EMI refused to sign 
them as its artists unless they agreed to have a songwriter asigned to 
them! 
The thing is, they made GREAT covers.  Things like Slow Down, Matchbox 
(sung by Ringo), Long Tall Sally (screamed by Paul, and I like it), 
were excelent.  In '64 they stopped the covers to prove to EMI they 
could write a whole LP, and out came A Hard Day's Night.  You have to 
admit, they were vesatile.  Then, in '65, they did a remake of 
Perkins' Dizzie Miss Lizzie and put it in Help, and it was not bad at 
all.  After that, they stopped recording covers (I think).
Before I go: Guess what band could not get to # 1 until thy made a 
cover of a Lennon-Mc Carthy song?
The Rolling Stones, believe it or not.  They were deep into blues and 
Muddy Waters and weren't getting much recognition, until they decided 
to sing I Want to be your Man.  Jagger's version is pretty amazing, 
and I've never heard it by the Beatles, I just know they wrote it.
But anyway, forgive my unstructured comments, and take them for what 
they're worth.
later, 
F.M.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: vuyk@let.rug.nl (W. Vuijk)
Subject: Dylan anniversary concert
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:05:24 GMT


Being a collector of all sorts of Dylan related stuff, I am very interested 
in getting one of the following items:
- the New York Times (and maybe other newspapers as well) of sept. 13. 
included a full page advertisement for the Dylan anniversary concert;
- there will be -I think- a special program for the concert;
- a leaflet announcing the concert;
- a ticket stub.
As you will understand, it's difficult to get thing like these here in 
Holland - so my question is, is there anyone who is willing to help me to 
get items like this. Of course I will repay you, or maybe you are interested 
in trades (like concert tapes, etc.).
Hope one of you will be of help..

Please mail: vuyk@let.rug.nl

Thanks in advance


Wim Vuijk
From: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu (Owen Goldin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Song title ?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 20:02:12 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <1992Oct1.205958.26166@leland.Stanford.EDU>, terrapin@jessica.stanford.edu (Robert Zeien) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.154448.411@hnrc.tufts.edu> rob_sy@hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>>
>>me and a friend are in an argument over the title of the song with the
>>following words...
>>
 etc.
>> they paved paradise 
>> to put down a parking lot"
>         ^^^^up
>
>This doesn't really have anything to do with Dylan, but here's your
>answer...
>
>	Big Yellow Taxi (by Joni Mitchell)
>
>It can be found on her _Ladies of the Canyon_ album.
>
>And now back to your regularly scheduled Dylan program...
>

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, there's a Dylan cover of this on "Dylan", 
the collection of "Self Portrait" outtakes that Columbia released as revenge
for Dylan's defecting to Asylum.  But perhaps this version is better left
forgotten. 

Owen
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: jab@cs.brown.edu (James M. Borger)
Subject: Re: uncategorized
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:35:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.172420.21136@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, mmg4w@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Malinda Marie Gunden) writes:
|> I can't find a proper place to put what I want to say so I will
|> create my own uncategorized category.  I enjoy Dylan's songs
|> very much, as poetry, but sometimes when I hear him sing, I am
|> disappointed by his singing.  It seems that I enjoy some of his
|> songs best, when they are sung by someone else.  This does not
|> diminish his status, or my admiration for his talent.  I think
|> as a poet, he caught the feelings of a whole generation of
|> people--my generation--and for that he deserves the admiration
|> of all of us.  
|> 		Malinda Gunden at the University of Virginia.

This makes me sad - there are just so many examples of amazing Dylan singing.
"Corina, Corina", "Don't Think Twice", "Baby Blue", "She's Your Lover Now",
"You're Going to Make Me Lonesome", "Sara" to name few.  It's true, though, that
if you want someone with a voice like an opera singer or a bird, then Dylan's not
your answer.  Listen to Joan Baez.  But Dylan's voice is so much more alive and
intense, and it follows the feeling of the songs so much better than, say, Joan
Baez's.  

I will agree that his voice isn't very good any more.  Maybe I just don't
understand what he's doing now, but I don't think so.  I hope someone disagrees.

Jim Borger
From: rob_sy@hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Song title ?
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:44:47 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University


me and a friend are in an argument over the title of the song with the
following words...

"hey farmer farmer put away that ddt
 leave the spots on my apples 
 and leave me the birds and bees please

 dont it always go to show
 you never know what you got
 till its gone

 they paved paradise 
 to put down a parking lot"
From: bloom@buast7.bu.edu (Steve Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Dylan and Interpretation
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:24:35 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <Oct.1.09.05.37.1992.11312@gandalf.rutgers.edu> burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Burnett) writes:
>
>I want to ask for comments from all of you in r.m.d. land.

You'll get 'em!!!

>What I'd like is any comments from you all about all this.  What 
>do you think about interpretations of Dylan's songs?  Is it a 
>worthwhile activity?  What's involved in such interpretations?  Is
>interpretation just an attempt to understand a song, or something 
>more complicated?  Have you seen any interpretations that you 
>particularly like or dislike?  
>
When songs have so much imagery in them interpretations are more
what the listener feels than what the musician may have actually 
meant at the time of composition. I guess an 'interpretation'
would mean something if several people would get the same general 
feel for the song. But, I wouldn't waste my time go after every line
of "Tombstone Blues" or anything like that. I mean, lines
like "the geomerty of innocent flesh on the bone/Causes Gallileo's
math book to get thrown" (or whatever) MAY mean something specific,
but I'd rather think of which emotions the song has brought forth,
general things like that.

                                    Steve Bloom



Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes)
Subject: Re: Rare & unreleased vol. 4-7 in february?
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:34:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.102031.15681@cs.ruu.nl> acbversp@cs.ruu.nl (Aart Verspuij) writes:
>
>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Date      Artist/Group                    Title
>>------    ------------------------        -------------------------------------
>(... list deleted...)
>>   Feb    Bob Dylan                       Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7      [BD]
>
>From the file releases in the newsgroup rec.music.info.
>
>Does someone have details of this? I'd like to hear.
>

Volstrekt onbetrouwbaar. Degene die verantwoordelijk is voor deze entry
had het van een vriendje in een platenzaak gehoord, enkele maanden geleden.

Jammer, he?

maurice

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maes@prl.philips.nl |  
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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer)
Subject: Re: Song title ?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:03:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.154448.411@hnrc.tufts.edu> rob_sy@hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>
>me and a friend are in an argument over the title of the song with the
>following words...
>
>"hey farmer farmer put away that ddt
> leave the spots on my apples 
> and leave me the birds and bees please
>
> dont it always go to show
                 seem to go
> you never know what you got
  that you don't know what you got
> till its gone
>
> they paved paradise 
> to put down a parking lot"
          up

Title: Big Yellow Taxi 
Joni Mitchell
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: SCALES@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: how to subscribe to newsgroup
Organization: SYSTEMS & COMPUTING
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 14:12:13 PDT

Someone I know would like the postings here sent directly to his
email account.  Can someone tell me how to do that?
From: robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: test
Keywords: test
Date: 2 Oct 92 06:23:09 GMT
Organization: Organization

In article <1aet65INNff3@taloa.unice.fr> ol@mimosa.unice.fr writes:
>test....


  Why are you posting a test to a non-test group ????????????
From: ziskin@climate.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Daniel C. Ziskin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Dylan and Interpretation
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:47:07 GMT
Organization: Climate and Radiation Branch

I think I may err on the side of trying to 'interpret' every and
get to the bottom of the 'literal meaning' of each song.  What
I've noticed is:

1) some songs are easier to decipher then others (i.e. Masters of War)
2) some are too powerful to digest (i.e. It's Alright Ma...)
3) others forcefully invite interpretation by being deliciously
   vague (i.e. I'll Keep it with Mine)
4) others are clearly autobiographical (i.e. Sara)
5) some lend themselves well to multiple interpretation
   (as was discussed earlier on the net:  She Belongs to Me)

I agree with what was said recently by someone here that 
accepting individual emotional response is the  most valid
approach.  That is: I think a song means X, while someone 
else thinks it means Y.  Resolution:  WE'RE BOTH RIGHT!
(irregardless of what the master may have meant, either stated or
intended).  In fact, my favorite Dylan discussions are based on
finding literary evidence in the body of lyrics to defend an
interpretation X against someone with position Y.  

In conclusion:  The lyrics were meant to be interpretted, but don't
expect people to come to the same right answer that you have.

                 -a devoted fan,
                      Z
-- 
Daniel "OYSTER"  Ziskin             | 'Now you stand there expecting me to
(w)  301-286-9136  (h) 301-422-8619 |  remember something you forgot to say...'
ziskin@climate.gsfc.nasa.gov        |     -- Dylan
Xref: sparky rec.music.dylan:2276 dc.forsale:2435
From: jjk@astro.umd.edu (Jim Klavetter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan,dc.forsale
Subject: Dylan Reunion Tickets for sale
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:00:41 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy

OK, I spent all the time hitting that redial button and now I find
myself in the position of selling the damn tickets.  They are the $50
variety and I'm not in this to make money so I'm selling them for what
they cost me ($113.75 with all the bs charges).

Please email.

jjk@astro.umd.edu also for Athabasca and Reudi
Jim Klavetter
Astronomy
UMD
College Park, MD  20742

ps.  I know it really isn't kosher to sell things but in the forsale
newsgroups, but since I'm not trying to make any money and I know
there are some people out there who would appreciate the tix, this is
also posted to r.m.d.
From: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu (Owen Goldin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Outlaw Blues CD
Date: 3 Oct 1992 21:21:11 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsf.csd.mu.edu

'In article <97515@bu.edu>, bloom@buast7.bu.edu (Steve Bloom) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.220031.13683@zip.eecs.umich.edu> raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani) writes:
>>This discussion of an album of Dylan covers brings us to the 
>>question of - what are the best covers of Dylan songs ever. I'd
>>nominate
>[list ommitted]
>I believe that this was a thread about two years ago, but here goes
>it again:
>
>I guess I'd say that my personal favorite is Fairport Convention's version
>of "I'll Keep It With Mine". It's the masterful folk rock album, "What
>We Did On Our Holidays" (Sandy Denny, of "Battle of Evermore" fame sings
>lead). They also do other Dylan covers..ranging from psychedelic sounding
>to very folksy sounding.
>
>Steve

Richard Thompson, formerly of Fairport, returned to "I'll keep I t With Mine"
in around 1981, when he and wife Linda toured for the last time, before their
breakup.  Linda sings.  The arrangement is basically the same as before, but
this time the emotional intensity is searing, desperate, instead of tranquil
and loving as when Sandy Denny sang it.  R & L were fighting on stage and off
-- but making their best music together ever at that time.
     It was available on the quasi offical cassette release "Doom and Gloom
From the Tomb Vol 1" from Flypaper -- but I think they sold out.
     Ceratinly one of the greatest Dylan covers ever.  

Owen
From: bdb023@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: What are good Dylan CD's?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:38:25 GMT
Organization: Mankato State University

Hi all. I'm kinda new to this so please exscuse any wrongdoings. I'm
in the process of building a decent Cd collection, and of course what
collection is complete without a few dylan albums. I already have
Blood on the tracks(excellent disc) and nashville skyline(i partial to
counrty-rock). I'd like to get another disc and I've kinda narrowed
it down to three choices. Blonde on blonde, John wesley harding and
self-portrait. I'd like some opinions from some people who know 
Dylan well. I'm open for other suggestions also, except for the
Basement tapes which I have heard and really didn't care for.
			Thanx in advance
				brian
From: ce448@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Lehmann)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Outlaw Blues CD
Date: 5 Oct 1992 04:27:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce448@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Lehmann)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani) says:

>This discussion of an album of Dylan covers brings us to the 
>question of - what are the best covers of Dylan songs ever. I'd
>nominate
>
>1. All Along the Watchtower     - Jimi Hendrix
	an unquestionable classic.
>2. Mr. Tambourine Man           - The Byrds
	sugar-coated Dylan for the masses. I never liked Byrds covers of Dylan
>3. Its All Over Now Baby Blue   - Van Morrison
>4. Tomorrow is Such a Long Time - Rod Stewart
>5. I Shall be Released          - The Band
	another classic.
>
>And the worst - the worst I've heard yet is Guns 'n' Roses 
>cover of "Knockin' on Heaven's Door". Anybody out there got
>any opinions?
>
>Raghu 
>
How about Clapton's "Knockin' on Heaven's Door?" 

Also, I really liked Edie Brickell's version of "Hard Rain" on the Born of
the Fourth of July soundtrack. But even better is Pete Seeger's version of 
the same song. Gimmie Pete & his banjo, & I'm a happy guy.

One other that I had to add is Joan Baez's Forever Young. Really beautiful
version of a touching and very personal song. I think I heard it on the 
Wonder Years recently. Dylan sure does pop up all over.

					Chris
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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Subject: Re: Dylan Covers (Was: Outlaw Blues CD)
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:49:46 GMT

In <3940@sapwdf.UUCP> hofmann@sapwdf.UUCP (Martin Hofmann) writes:
>I rate Hendrix' version of "Watchtower" so high, because it shows an unknown
>side of an already perfect song...

Absolutely perfectly put!  "Watchtower", IMHO, is probably the perfect 
song as written, and then as recorded by Dylan it's "just right".

Then Jimi seemed to say:  "Hey, I can do something with that", 
and the wind began to *really* howl!

Andrew Shields