From: cwm54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: OMAR's bio : Jive version
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:16:02 GMT

In article <1ea7lqINNt7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bm508@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Branimir Dokic) writes:
>
>In a previous article, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) says:
>
>
>>
>>I agree with you completely, Ted, and since none of those socially
>>advanced Solons at Rose-Hulman are likely to put their money where their
>>mouths are, I posted their little racist diatribe to
>>soc.culture.african.american for them.  It disgusts me when the trendy
>>subject in campus humor centers around harassment of the hearing impaired
>>and race hatred.
>>
>
>
>
>I'll bet you and Ted Frank were the kind of kids who used to
>enjoy destroying anthills and frying bugs with magnifying glasses.
>You know, immaturely spiteful.  I used to be like that too
>but at least I grew up and changed my childish spitefulness.
>
>
>Yep, because of your invite, I went over to soc.culture.african.american
>to see what they'd say about your post.  Seems like there was
>no response, eh?  Or rather,the only lifeblood of the omar-issue
>was Ted Frank's and your posts.  Tell me, did you feel like you
>were kicking a dying horse, trying to get it up to trot even
>though it was the least bit interested in your actions???
>
>Anyway, I don't think that you needed to assume that every
>Soc.culture.African.American would be ballistic over this issue.  Sure
>it makes fun of the way some jive-speaking people talk, but is
>it that big of a deal?  Look at the [lack of] supportive response you
>got.
>
>
>For sake of comparison, look at something as simple as the Mario
>Brothers video game.  Are we to think that, like the jive-filter
>programmer and user, the Mario Brothers programmer(s) take humor
>in the fact that ALL Italians are named Mario and have funny little
>handlebar mustaches and are carpenters who act like bumbling
>idiots, knocking their head into mushrooms and all other kinds
>of things?  Hey, we're all differnent and that makes life interesting.
>To this day I hear people speak jive-talk, and I sometimes have
>to ask a person to repeat him/herself because I couldn't understand
>their phrasing.  I sometimes hear two people speaking jive-english
>and it's amazing to me that they understand each other.  It's
>out there, it's a dialect that is used today, and doggone it,
>it's sometimes funny to me to think that these people, whose snippets
>of conversations I accidentally overhear, understand each other!!
>It amazes me!  Yep the jive filter is funny to me, and I can say
>from the bottom of my heart that I am not a racist.  You may think
>I am, but it's my opinion that this world will end before
>everyone thinks alike and noone gets offended by someone else.
>
>Anyway, sorry that it rained on your expectant parade of
>band-wagon-jumping soc.culture.A.A'ers.
>
>NOT!!!
>
>Later!
>
>B.
>
>By the way, after reading Omar's response somewhere up there, I
>agree with anyone who thinks that it's time to lay off the
>Omar stories UNLESS...
>
>1.  He gives the nose-up to those previous alt.folklore.college
>    posters ho will hopefully  try to inform him of his
>    annoying behavior.  After all, he asked for help.
>
>and/or
>
>2.  Omar in return post some stories about his "attackers" since
>    all's fair in love and war.
>
>
>
>Later again!
>
>Send all flames to me!  My room has an outside wall and it gets
>cooooold in Cleveland this time of year!
>--
>Branimir Dokic
>Radio-Telivizija-Beograd






   I can't speak for all blacks obviously, but many of us are very

   appreciative to Ted and the other guy for bringing this to our

   attention. Don't believe for one second that our lack of response

   translates to lack of disgust. It's just that you guys are minor

   league racists. We're much too busy dealing with more sophisticated

   and subtle people of your ilk... but we remember,we remember.





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