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From: gert@fwi.uva.nl (Gert Poletiek)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Image Extension
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:01:54 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

Date: 9 Apr 92 15:34:45 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.153445.825@fwi.uva.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x



Does somebody on the net know anything about something called 
the 'X Image Extension' (XIE). I know that someone worked on this
and that a manual should exists (dated some 1.5 years back).

I would like to know if there are any more recent descriptions
of this extensions.


Please mail to me directly.
Thanks in advance


Gert Poletiek
gert@fwi.uva.nl
University of Amsterdam
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
The Netherlands

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               Kruislaan 409, NL-1098 SJ  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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From: bret@tfd.com (Bret Weinraub)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: compiling R5 under SUNOS 4.1e
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:25:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Twenty-First Designs, Wash, DC

Date: 9 Apr 92 20:22:31 GMT
Message-Id: <1998@tfd.tfd.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


This is an open question concerning compiling X11R5 under SUNOS 4.1e.

I would be interested to hear the experiences of others who have done this;
specifically any problems that surfaced.

Also I would be interested to know if R4 was tested for this operating
system.


Thanks a bunch.

BRET D WEINRAUB
Twenty-First Designs Inc.
bret@tfd.com
From: vestal@src.honeywell.com (Steve Vestal)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Mac/XWindows Toolbox
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:01:29 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center

Date: 9 Apr 92 18:29:53 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.182953.13938@src.honeywell.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.windows.x

We've got a Mac program we'd like to port to Suns.  Is there a library that
emulates or supports Mac graphics calls using XWindows?  This seems like the
kind of thing someone would have done.

I don't subscribe to these newsgroups, please email me your response.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Steve Vestal
Mail: Honeywell S&RC MN65-2100, 3660 Technology Drive, Minneapolis MN 55418 
Phone: (612) 782-7049                    Internet: vestal@src.honeywell.com
From: amc@wlv.imsd.contel.com (Allen M. Cohen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Non-echoing text widget for password entry
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:36:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Contel Federal Systems

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 06:11:10 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr13.061110.6321@wlbr.imsd.contel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x

In article <BMHpHL.2DC@world.std.com> jlw@world.std.com (James L Walker) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.180843.1605@lsl.co.uk> snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
>>In article <david.702575486@colt.cc.iastate.edu>, david@iastate.edu (David M. Martin Jr.) writes:
>I too am looking for a solution and I too used the foreground, but I
>remember reading a better way to do this somewhere.  That approach had
>something to do with setting the font resource to "none" somehow.
>Perhaps someone else remembers this also.  The best way to do this
>would be to have a special font which displays an 'x' or something for
>every character.  Does anyone know where one could get such a font?
>Using the XmmodifyVerifyCallback seems to be a long way around a
>simple problem.
Just see Dan's book -- O'Reilly Vol 6.


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From: DBOHDAL@jaguar.ess.harris.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Communication.
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:04:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: sm.1992Apr6.180450.24001
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9204061413.AA18155@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Date:     Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:17 EST


Here's my problem:  I have an X-Windows application process running and
a non-X communications process running.  When a message is received by my
comm process, I want to interrupt the X-Windows application and update
a status window indicating that a message has arrived.  What is a good
way to do this?  Do I have to make my comm process an X-Windows process
in order to to successfully communicate?  I'm on a VAXstation 3100 using
VMS and Motif 1.1.

Thanks for any help you can provide,
Debbie
From: envbvs@epb9.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: command button stays in reverse video after popping up widget
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:20:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: lbl

Date: 9 Apr 92 19:05:07 GMT
Message-Id: <22608@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <22606@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, I said:

|> I have a box widget that contains several command widgets, each of which
|> can popup a widget.  When the command widget was clicked upon, it would
|> go to reverse video to show that it was selected, but then go
|> back to normal video, after which the  was popped up.
|> This worked fine under R4.
|> 
|> However, when I compile it against the R5 libraries and you click
|> on the command widget it STAYS in reverse video forever.  Even after
|> the popup menu is dismissed.
|> 
|> Another user has noticed this problem.
|> Here is the (greatly reduced) code. 
|> Has anyone else seen this problem?
|> By the way,  if I don't have the command widget popup the popup then
|> it doesn't say in reverse video.

I found the problem.  I was doing an XtSetInsensitive on the enclosing
form widget when I popped up the popup widget and this worked fine 
under R4, but under R5 it keeps the command button in reverse video.

The solution is to set only the command widget in the form to Insensitive.

Why did this change in R5?
--
Brian V. Smith    (bvsmith@lbl.gov)
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
From: h8ed011@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Naasif Gierdien)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: WANTED: GIF to X windows Bitmap converter
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:43:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Centre, Swinburne Inst. of Tech., Melbourne, Australia.

Date: 9 Apr 92 08:12:40 GMT
Message-Id: <6373@stan.xx.swin.oz.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

Hello. I'm not sure if this has been done before...if so please let
me know.

I'm after a program that will convert either GIF or MS Windows 3.x BMP
files to X windows standard Bitmap files.

The X windows Bitmap format looks something like this....

#define Blah_width 64
#define Blah_height 64
static char Blah_bits[] = {
   0x08, 0x80, 0x04, 0x00, 0x40, 0x02, 0x00, 0x22, 0x00, 0x04, 0x90, 0x24,
   0x0a, 0x48, 0x12, 0x80, 0x90, 0x90, 0x00, 0x00, 0x80, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
   0x02, 0x04, 0x44, 0x00, 0x20, 0x22, 0x80, 0x28, 0x00, 0x80, 0x00, 0x12,
   ....
   ....
   ....
   0x40, 0x40, 0x04, 0x28, 0x00, 0x04, 0x90, 0x24, 0x00, 0x08, 0x20, 0x01,
   0xa0, 0x90, 0x00, 0x00, 0x89, 0x10, 0x05, 0x88, 0x00, 0x04, 0x44, 0x00,
   0x00, 0x02, 0x00, 0x00, 0x08, 0x80, 0x00, 0x12, 0x08, 0x50, 0x50, 0x02,
   0x80, 0x08, 0x11, 0x80, 0xa2, 0x04, 0x02, 0x20, 0x10, 0x20, 0x40, 0x00,
   0x00, 0x10, 0x20, 0x01, 0x02, 0x00, 0x05, 0x25, 0x00, 0x85, 0x04, 0x88,
   0x20, 0x4a, 0x20, 0x00, 0x11, 0x10, 0x90, 0x00};


Thanks in advance

Naasif Gierdien
ng@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au
h8ed011@stan.xx.swin.oz.au
Swinburne Institute of Technology
Melbourne, Australia
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Internet: h8ed011@stan.xx.swin.oz.au
Swinburne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia
From: smitty@es.com (Maurice Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: colors
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:34:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT

Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:17:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr10.151717.3948@dsd.es.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <920409093500.21800e3a@hdsc.ssc.af.mil>, CFRAZIER@hdsc.ssc.af.MIL (C | C Code | C Code Run, please!) writes:
|> 
|> I'm running  Motif  on a VAX and have noticed that my colors aren't consistent 
|> from terminal to terminal.  I'm having a heck of a time with the colormaps and 
|> someone out there please offer some code to help me with this.  thanks.
|> 
|> I've worked over 30 hours on just getting the colors the act right.  Can anyone 
|> offer me any advice.  I've already gone over schedule for this thing.  
|> 
|>  p.s.  Are there any dial-up BBSs that support Motif discussion?
|> 
|> cfrazier@hdsc.ssc.af.mil
|> 
|> 

	I would only expect the colors to be consistent if the "terminal"s
	were from the same vendor and had the same display hardware.  If this is
	true then the only way to make them look the same is to be using the 
	same color maps and have the hardware tweeked to the same reference.

	If the "terminal"s are from different vendors then you are into the
	"device independant color" problem which has no easy fix.  X11R5 has
	an excellent start with it's device independant color enhancements 
	but, good as it is, it can't work if the display hardware is not set
	up to match the characterization data.

	Good luck.
-- 
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 Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp. |  -- Solomon Short
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From: baechtel@astro.pc.ab.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: What is XtPointer?
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:21:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 13 Apr 92 11:45:47 EST
Message-Id: <1992Apr13.114547.7786@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I am having trouble compiling a xdbx which uses the Zaw library.
Both use a variable type call XtPointer, but I can not find
this defined anywhere in Xaw or Xt.

Does anyone know where this is defined?
From: envbvs@epb9.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xsetroot -cursor limited to 32x32
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:39:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: lbl

Date: 15 Apr 92 22:17:36 GMT
Message-Id: <22728@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Apr15.210612.1066@brtph560.bnr.ca>, psycho@brtpa25.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski) writes:
|> I'm using an HP/Apollo 425 running SR10.3. When I type:
|> 
|> 	> xsetroot -cursor <bitmap_file> <mask_file>
|> 
|> and both the cursor and mask file have x/y parameters larger
|> than 32 bits, the cursor image gets truncated to 32x32. Is
|> there an Xdefault parameter that I'm missing somewhere??
|> The window manager doesn't seem to make a difference...

Your display hardware is limited to having cursors of 32x32 pixels.
Vaxstations have the limitation of 16x16 pixels for cursors.
Some machines don't have a limitation.

There exist several Xlib procedures to query the limits for certain
things like cursor size (XQueryBestCursor), tile size etc. because of 
these limitations.

-- 
Brian V. Smith    (bvsmith@lbl.gov)
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
From: swispl@solomon.technet.sg (SW International)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Printing Call in X
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:40:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: National University of Singapore

Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:50:24 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr10.015024.21701@nuscc.nus.sg>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Greetings World,

First, confession time... "I am a Green-Horn (minimal initiation) to X".

Next, my question...
I am trying to print the contents of a window (ie. bitmap,pixmap,images)
to a printer from within my APPLICATION. I know that one can print using
the X client, but that is not what I want to do. Can someone please 
point me in the right direction (ie is there an X routine to call or a
sequence of calls). Also, what kind of process response time am I looking 
at, from the time I initiate the print to the time the printer starts 
receiving/printing?

Thanks...

Alvino...



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From: The.University.of.Akron@expo.lcs.mit.edu, Akron@expo.lcs.mit.edu,
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: To have cartesian coordinates in X
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:44:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The University of Akron, Akron, Ohio
        Ohio@expo.lcs.mit.edu

Date: 16 Apr 92 17:38:11 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr16.173811.20834@news.uakron.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

Hello everyone,

I am building an user interface where I have to use the cartesian coordinates,
instead of the pixel values.  Can I configure my X in such a way that I can
use the drawing routines with the centimeter, millimeter values and have the
x,y (0,0) origin at bottom left?  Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Prakash


(216) 434 0950
prakash@wirth.cs.uakron.edu
From: imp@solbourne.com (Warner Losh)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Motif vs Open-look vs X
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:55:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Solbourne, User Interface Group

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:35:13 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.183513.25113@solbourne.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Just as aside, OI, which implements OPEN LOOK and Motif, doesn't
require a royalty fee when you ship products linked against it.
Shared libraries don't cost any more or less...

Warner
-- 
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If it can't be done with Emacs, you are being too ambitious.
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: lights in the MIT PEX-SI server
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:04:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Unocal Corporation, Anaheim, California

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:24:46 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr7.182446.9534@unocal.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I was trying to get a lighting model to work, any model, in the MIT PEX-SI server
on a SPARC-II with a GX board.
I was hoping to get flat shading with a directional light source to work.
This version of PEX does not support interpolated shading.
The R5 release notes list unsupported PEX features and light models is not
among them.
I am using the O'Reilly sphere examples (p. 649, phigs/rendering/sphere.c)
as a departure point.
If I turn the lights off (comment out pset_light_src_state) and the interior
shade off (pset_int_style PSTYLE_NONE) I get the sphere and plane wireframe.
If I set the interior shading to solid, I get a white rectangle and disk
as expected.
If I turn on any lights (pset_light_src_rep & pset_light_src_state),
I get nothing.
One thing I notice is the server colormap does not load any of the grey shades
I expect.  Perhaps another color map is necessary.

P.S. Several other PEX commands fail in the sphere.c example, so I've turned
them off.  I don't think they affect the lighting model.
They include:
COMMAND			FAILURE MODE
pset_hlhsr-mode		MIT PEX doesn't support zbuffering
pset_int_shade_method	PSD_COLOUR causes a SPARC II to crash, changed to PSD_NONE
pset_face_cull_mode	if on, some polygon fills leak, so I turned off

Thanks in advance for suggestions.
From: sinster@cse.ucsc.edu (Darren Senn)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:49:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)

Date: 7 Apr 92 20:05:31 GMT
Message-Id: <32286@darkstar.ucsc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.misc,comp.unix.msdos,comp.unix.admin,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.hp

In article <1992Apr5.051847.26292@julian.uwo.ca> crispin@csd.uwo.ca (Crispin Cowan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.012117.25191@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
>>>that takes my fingers from the home row--including mice, control-, and
>>If your keyboard doesn't have a control key on the home row, it's broken.
>
>Standard DOSy keyboard puts the control key down near the shift and alt
>keys.

This is why I spent 4 months looking for a keyboard for the PC I put
together: Epson makes a very good one.

I'm in the same boat as Crispin, though:  I'm a fast touch typist (owing to
over a decade of daily touch typing) and I far prefer vi to almost all text
editors out there.  The absolute worst word processor or text editor I have
ever experienced is WordPerfect: I hate systems that make me lean heavily
on function keys, which are no where near the home row on QWERTY keyboard.
-- 
Darren Senn                                            Phone:    (408) 479-1521
sinster@scintilla.capitola.ca.us                       Snail: 1785 Halterman #1
Wasurenaide -- doko e itte mo soko ni anata wa iru yo.     Santa Cruz, Ca 95062
From: britt@leland.stanford.edu (Britt Park)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: OAK VGA TECHNICAL INFORMATION
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:28:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 20:49:27 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.204927.17861@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi,
     Does anyone know a convenient source (i.e. a book or an ftp site)
for detailed technical information about OAK O67 VGA boards?  I'm going
to write a graphics driver for Linux.  My plan is to cheat and use the
BIOS at startup to get the appropriate register values for mode
switching.  I need the technical information for the mappings of the
extended registers.  Perhaps someone has added OAK VGA support to X386.

                                        Thanks,
                                        Britt
                                        britt@cb-iris.stanford.edu
From: hazzam@jade.tufts.edu (Hammad K. Azzam)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:21:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

Date: 7 Apr 92 18:58:00 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr7.185800.18530@jade.tufts.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am trying to build X11R5 on a DECstation 3100 and I keep receiving the
following error messages:

Can't find include file sys/workstation.h
Can't find include file sys/inputdevice.h
Can't find include file sys/wsdevice.h
All help will be greatly appreciated 
Thanks in advance
please respond to e-mail address

hazzam@osiris.ee.tufts.edu
From: wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu (Fred Hansen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: C-F-PAPERS  -  Andrew Technical Conference, 1992
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:56:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 12:13:19 EDT
Message-Id: <9204151613.AA27519@expo.lcs.mit.edu>


CALL FOR PAPERS  -  Andrew Technical Conference, 1992

The Andrew Toolkit Consortium is pleased to invite your contributions to

	Andrew Technical Conference, 1992
	--  Interfaces beyond ASCII  --

When I write a program, I usually draw little pictures to explain data
structures or decision logic.  Why are these pictures lost when the
program exists?  This is part of the larger question of universal
information forms.

The canonical information form--the lingua franca between
applications--has progressed from single-case text, to ASCII, and now
ISO-8859.  Applications are beyond this stage, however, incorporating
typographic text and embedded images, so it is time to begin extending
the canonical information form with support for enhanced text at a
fundamental level of the system.  It should always be possible to cut
and paste between applications.  Program constants and comments (at
least) should allow illustrations.  Data bases should store pictures of
parts and logos of suppliers.  Electronic mail should routinely transfer
information with the full complexity of the printed page, but without
the frozen and bloated form of fax representations.  As a reader of an
electronic message, I should be able to extract all or a portion of a
message and massage it further with the same ease as the original author.

ATK and AMS, the Andrew Toolkit and Andrew Message System, offer an
environment in which applications can shareextended text and other
objects.  Indeed, AMS has offered interchange of formated information
since 1987.  The theme of this year's ATK/AMS technical conference --
Interfaces beyond ASCII -- is to share experience and speculate on
further requirements and possibilities for integrated environments with
higher level information forms.

In addition to papers related to the theme, the conference invites
papers on the entire realm of ATK and AMS:

	applications based on the toolkit
	extensions to the toolkit
	new objects
	data stream alternatives
	alternative toolkits


Proposals due: 10 May 1992
Acceptance by: 20 May
Completed papers due: 15 June
Electronic submission in ATK format is encouraged, but not required.

Conference dates and location:

	June 25-26, 1992  (Thursday and Friday)
	Adamson Wing
	Carnegie Mellon University
	Pittsburgh PA
		Tutorials: 25 June 1992
		Annual meeting: evening of June 25
		Technical Conference: 26 June


Proceedings will be made available.

For more information, contact:

	Wilfred J. Hansen
	Director, Andrew Toolkit Consortium
	School of Computer Science
	Carnegie Mellon
	238 UCCB
	4910 Forbes Ave.
	Pittsburgh, PA 15213

	wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu
	412-268-6788
From: tigli@mimosa.unice.fr (Jean-Yves Tigli)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help !!
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:14:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Nice-Sophia Antipolis

Date: 9 Apr 92 14:34:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.143417.28843@taloa.unice.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

When I start X, it writes on my computer screen :

X Toolkit Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "White"
X Toolkit Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "Black"
X Toolkit Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "white"
X Toolkit Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "black"

I don't know why !
My rgb.txt is ok for black and white (Black and White too),
my app-defaults is ok for xterm (XTerm)
and it's the same trouble for everyone with this computer.
(it doesn't depend on .Xfiles from the homedir).

Thus xterm windows have a white background with a white font ...

Thanks for your help ....
From: zakon@hobbes.soml.cwru.edu (Robert H. Zakon)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xgrab ps or bitmap file to Mac pict or tiff?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:45:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:18:46 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr6.191846.4239@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

How can I get output from xgrab to a Mac Pict or Tiff
format?  xgrab can give me output in either postscript
or bitmaps format.

Please reply directly to zakon@hobbes.cwru.edu

Thanks,
  Robert H Zakon
From: wxs@po.cwru.edu (W.charles Simciak)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Editors
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:42:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)

Date: 12 Apr 92 00:47:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr12.004737.25591@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Can anyone suggest some Public Domain/Shareware/ etc. editors for X
Windows.. in particular one that makes use of the graphical interface
and is not just another unix editor popped into a window..(like Emacs, VI)
please mail me the name, a brief description, and location of where
I can obtain the software package...

thanx

-- 
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  wxs@po.CWRU.edu   !    the private parts of literature."
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