From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Drugs
Followup-To: alt.rave
Keywords: gag wretch heave ralph yack
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:58:45 GMT

I crossposted this to alt.drugs with Followup-To alt.rave so those of you
in the UK without alt.drugs feeds might get some of the discussion...

>> I'd love to know what sort of drugs are going on in America just now.
>> I don't mean Crack, I mean nice ones like E, Trips, Speed and Coke?
>
>FACT : There is no such thing as a "nice" drug. There are bad drugs, and there
>are "badder" drugs.  If you think you're doing yourself any favours by taking
>them, you're fooling yourself.

I think that varies from person to person.  One who uses poor reasoning for
taking drugs (like to 'help them deal with their problems') is more likely
to wind up letting the drugs get the best of them, while someone who keeps
their wits about them can use some controlled drugs recreationally every so
often and it can be a positive experience for them.  Not that I would know
;-)

>And COKE?!?!?! (No, I'm not ignorant - I'm just amazed anyone would consider t
his a recreational drug. Then again, maybe it's just me.....)

It's not just you...

>> (ie. Party drugs). How much does it cost? Is it easy to get? Are drug
>> dealers dangerous people over there, shooting each other in the street?

Not for the most part.  If you know where to look you can get any kind of
drug you want, though.  Marijuana is by far the easiest to get.  I don't
know how much it costs.  LSD is $5 a hit most everywhere.  I know people
who use coke and have used heroin... not sure how much those cost, either,
but those people travel into seedier parts of town to get their stuff.
I don't think they deal with any AK-47 toting thugs, though.  Some guy
offered to sell me crack when I was walking into a record store across
from campus one day last month.  He wasn't at all intimidating.

>This is something I've always wondered about. If you watch the news, etc, then
 most major american cities are made out to be some kind of war zone, with drug
 dealers/addicts runnning around killing everyone they see. Is this the case? M
ost of the drug dealers I know (of) are actually not such bad people if you get
 to know them. But then again, I don't (of) know any dealers who deal in the so
-called "hard" drugs (heroin, crack etc), and the ones I do know,probably would
n't touch them with a bargepole.

>(Then again, I've never actually been to a "rave" as such. The idea of standin
g in the rain with 20,000 people getting muddy never struck me as being much fu
n. I'd rather pay to go in a nice warm, dry, safe club. :-> )

If only clubs were dry.  Or safe, for that matter.

>> Is it accepted that if you go to rave you take something?

If you are at a rave and are on something, you are accepted.
If you are at a rave and are not on something, you are accepted.
It is not assumed that if you are at a rave that you are on something.

>And how many "I'm Bored/Beautiful" people are there, who spend all night at th
e side of the dance floor, with cigarette in one hand, slagging off everyone th
ey see....

Hmm, well, having just spent most of last night at the side of the dance
floor, cigarette in one hand, NOT slagging off everyone I saw and NOT feeling
bored nor beautiful, I guess I can speak for the non-dancing anti-poseur
ravers... all half dozen of us...
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."