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From: abottone@cass.ma02.bull.com (Alessandro Bottonelli)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Tell you something..
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:07:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bull World Wide Information Systems Inc.



From a slightly european-biased point of view, I would say that the most
"ecological" means of transportation on the medium range is the TRAIN.
(Unless, of course there is a significant amount of water between
point A and pint B!!!)). 

On the other hand, this may or may not be true depending on how
the energy necessary to make the train work is produced. In Italy,
where most of the eletricity  that pushes train is produced by
exploiting natural resources like hot-water gaisers,, this is fairly
true. Also, with high speed trains going directly from downtown to
dowtown, the train makes more sense on the medium range because is
cheaper and at the end you travel the same amount of hours (or about the
same, also trains are less sensitive to metereological factors).


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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: BUMPS / USAir
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:10:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.203436.10323@acsu.buffalo.edu> AXLEROD@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Harvey Axlerod) writes:
>    I travel quite a bit with USAir. I am willing to be a volunteer BUMPEE for
>the free voucher.
>    QUESTION: Does anyone have some reasonably solid evidence as to the most
>              likely hub for a bump with USAir ?? (I can often route through
>              several hubs, and would like to know the odds.) The hubs I hit
>              most often are Logan (Boston), LaGuardia (NYC), Philadelphia
>              Cinci, and Pittsburgh.

Hubs, I would have thought, would be willing to do less for the bumpee than
a spoke.  Anyway, try getting yourself to a college town on the eve of some
type of break.  They always overbook.  My friend was a bumpee twice in one
weekend in Rochester, NY (home of UofR, RIT, St John Fisher) over a break.

On usair, it was.

--Ken
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From: brians@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Brian J Smith)
Subject: CHeap FLIGHT FROM AUSTRALIA TO LOS ANGELES OFFER
Summary: I'm seeling a one way to Los Angeles from Sydney cheap.
Keywords: LA, Australia, ticket, flight, cheap
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:49:55 GMT


IF YOU ARE PLANNING A FLIGHT TO LOS ANGELES, OR EVEN IF YOU WERE NOT, I HAVE A
NEARLY FREE TICKET FOR FLYING BEFORE MAY 7.

THE TICKET BEARS THE NAME SMITH AND IS ONE WAY SYDNEY TO L.A.X. 

IF YOUR NAME IS SMITH OR YOU KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE NAME, PLEASE CALL ME
IMMEDIATELY IN SYDNEY AUSTRALIA ON (02) 712 2054.

brians@extro.ucc.su.oz.au


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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: LOST LUGGAGE QUESTION
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:03:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.001306.2597@spcvxb.spc.edu> 0ganley_j@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>Question::
>
>	Has anyone lost anything of Value on USAir.  Recenlty they have 
>misplaced a CamCorder and a few other Items, none of which have ever been 
>found, nore were the people putting them on warned that the Airline Wasn't
>responsible for Items like the CamCorder.  Anyone Have an opinion on this, I 
>say if they Checked it on the Plane, there Responsible.  And while people are
>discussing Bumpy rides, This one was no Picnic either, constant Ups and Downs 

The quick answer to this is check your ticket jacket.  I know that both 
NW and American specifically state that they are not responsible for
photographic or electronic equipment on checked or unchecked baggage.

I also know that I have been promising to give the details of my baggage
claim with NW....hopefully next month I'll type it it...but if you charged
the ticket with AMEX, you'll get $250.00 for the loss of your camcorder,
as AMEX reimbursed me for the cordless phone NW lost (which was originally
purchased with my AADvantage VISA card) last December.

--Ken
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From: sidell@swine.cs.uiuc.edu (Jeff Sidell)
Subject: NY -> San Diego -> NY
Summary: Need best air fares NY -> San Diego -> NY
Keywords: NY San Diego
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:41:29 GMT

Hi,

Does anyone have any good ideas about cheap flights
from New York to San Diego and then back?  Ideally,
I would like to fly through Los Angeles (where I have
friends).  I am travelling the week of June 2.  It
would work out well for me to fly to LA May 30, then
down to San Diego on June 1, then back to New York
(through LA or not - doesn't matter) on June 5.

Jeff Sidell
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From: ken@point.b17d.ingr.com (Ken Poore)
Subject: Re: O'Hare -> San Juan
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:05:28 GMT

rlk20269@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Leon Kapusta) writes:

>I am planning on flying this route in May, and was wondering if there
>were any non-stop routes.  How long is the flight?  What type of plane
>should I expect?  Thanks for the info!

Well, since ORD is a United hub, you may find that ORD->IAD(Dulles)->SanJuan
will be your best bet.  It takes about 3hours and 20minutes from IAD to 
San Juan on a 737-300.  That leg is direct and it leaves at about 9:00AM, 
which means unless there's a really early flight from ORD to IAD, this
route would be not be an option unless you want to stay overnight in 
northern Virginia (rooms are about $60-90 a night near Dulles).

I flew from Huntsville, AL to IAD, stayed overnight with friends, then
took the 9:00 to San Juan.  Why, you might ask?  It was redemption time
for United's 10th aniversary coupons and it was free.

>Rich Kapusta
>University of Illinois
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From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Airport Codes
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:35:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.1992Apr12.043539.3907
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO

In article <sjones.703045695@cunews> sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones) writes:
>Some notes, additions, and clarifications to the airport code list
>Canadian (and French) cities only
Thank you.  It'll be hard to implement some of the additions in the same
format as the original list unless someone is willing to do research. :^)


--
Larry Autry
Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com 
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From: western@sequin.rdg.dec.com (Jennifer Western)
Subject: Re: Flying to South Africa...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:46:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.034303.28978@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole) writes:
>Friends of mine will be going to South Africa shortly as US Diplomatic Corps
>people.  I am thinking of visiting them next January as part of my "January
>Term".  I will be leaving from Boston and I will want to return to Minneapolis.
>
>Looking in the OAG, it looks like the best route would be.
>
>LEB (Lebanon, NH where I will actually be starting)->BOS on Northwest Airlink
>BOS->AMS on Northwest
>AMS->JNB (Johannesburg) on KLM
>
>RETURN
>
>JNB->AMS on KLM
>AMS->MSP on KLM.
>
>This looks (by schedule only) like the best way to fly from Boston to South
>Africa and then back to St. Paul.  Does anyone have any better ideas?  Are
>prices going to be incredible?  e-mail or post responses.  Thanks in advance.
>


  You might consider flying via LHR.  Both BA and SA fly daily to Jo'burg
  from there.  Also, BA uses 747-400's on this route.  Both flights depart
  early evening.
  

  Jennifer
  

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From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Subject: Re: Continental
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: rec.travel.air
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 21:17:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.191303.7028@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.185041.27811@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas) writes:
>>
>>It would be interesting if they manage to make it.  No airline has ever
>>survived bankruptcy.
>>
>
>Rubbish.  If you define surviving as exiting Chapter 11 and operating
>profitably as a normal company, then Continental (after its first
>bankruptcy) certainly qualifies.  In fact it was outrageously successful
>after its first bankruptcy.

Hmm...I guess I forgot that one.  =)  Oh well...you can't *always* be
right, huh?  Of course, they *have* fallen back into Ch. 11..... :)


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From: jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Mass Transit and airports (was: Re: O'HARE)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:25:54 GMT

rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:

>In article <122225@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
>>In article <54326@hydra.gatech.EDU> glenns@eas.gatech.edu writes:

     [regarding BART extension to airport.]

>There is also much discussion about whether the station will be in the
>airport or outside of it.  What is really crazy is that Caltrain already
>goes close to the airport, and close to downtown.  For relatively little
>money this system could link SFO with downtown and the travel time would
>probably be superior to any times achievable by BART.

   Ah, but that suggestion assumes that our transit planners aren't
morons -- an assumption which has been abundantly refuted by the
policies of our San Francisco area planners.  
--


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Stanford University       BITNET:  BA.JYC@RLG.STANFORD.EDU 
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: here's a stab at a FAQ post -- comments/additions solicited
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 07:33:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.223533.24422@athena.mit.edu> rk@athena.mit.edu (Richard Kovalcik) writes:
>
>Regarding 2) What Other Ways ...
>
>Besides the OAG there is something called SkyGuide for $45 per year
>(12 issues).  However, it only lists direct flights while the OAG
>lists MOST connections.  I say most because I've had a number of cases
>of calling an airline and being told of perfectly reasonable connections
>that were not in the OAG.

No way... not remotely MOST.  On the SFO-BOS route alone in the desktop
OAG for Northwest alone there are about 6 reasonable connections during
the day that are NOT listed.  With the growth of hubs the connections part
of the OAG has got increasingly irrelevant, in the sense that it can't
possibly keep up with the number of possible reasonable connections.

Actually, I think that over the years the OAG has actually tended to list
_fewer_ connections, in recognition of the fact that trying to list them
all (even just on-line connections) would make for a very large tome.

RNA
From: phygod72@nic.gac.edu (Phil )
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Braniff International
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:23:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr9.122357.737

Just a warning to all you bargain-hunters:  BI, although it does offer a great  
price (MSP-MDW for $121, round-trip), it isn't worth the hassle.  I waited 11  
hours for them to install a new battery (its a long story, e-mail for details),  
and during the wait, fares weren't kept well-informed (average wait between  
announcements was 2.25 hours).  

A little friendly advice...

Phil Miesle
phygod72@nic.gac.edu

ps: I _think_ that their tickets are printed now (they used to be handwritten)
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:50:37 EDT
From: Asher Samuels <ASAHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Upward bumps (was: Re: Bumps)

This works if you are a VERY frequent flyer.
Also, on one flight, my sister was stuck seated in the middle of a group of peo
le who hadn't showered in a month or so.  She complained to the stewardess, and
asked for a new seat.
To make a long story short, she flew JFK > PBI in first class.
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From: steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: here's a stab at a FAQ post -- comments/additions solicited
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:16:33 GMT
	<1992Apr11.033944.18218@odin.corp.sgi.com>
Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway

Larry Autry writes:
>>13.  HOW MANY VARIETIES OF 747 ARE THERE?
>How about a quick list of the top 25 aircraft in service and their MAJOR
>differences.  I just jotted down some SILLY notes, to be filled in later by
>someone who knows.
[...]
>B757            Long skinny thing.
>B767            Long fat thing.
767 fat?  Maybe as compared to the 757, but when one is parked next to
a 747 it gives an _entirely_ different impression 8-)

>Why it's ok to lower your window shade during a movie.
And its counterpart: Why it's a good idea to lower your shade during
long-haul, "night-time" flights going up to the polar regions in the
summer.  Grumble.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
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From: jpy@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: re: Continental
Organization: Columbia University Computer Science
Distribution: rec.travel.air
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:34:01 GMT

I believe Continental is still in Ch.11, but its
financial status is actually improving - I've
flown Continental several time this year and
the planes are usually quite packed

Regards,
/jpy


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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 16:25:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.002913.17956@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole) writes:
>staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers) writes:
>
>>doesnt northwest fly jfk (in nyc) to osaka or tokyo nonstop?
>
>>--Ken
>
>Northwest flys from JFK to Osaka.. but then again United, JAL, ANA, and maybe
>Korean and some others fly from JFK to Tokyo..
>

NW flies from JFK to NRT (Tokyo) as well.  Or at least they used to.
Can't imagine them giving up this authority.

RNA
From: jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.EDU (John T Kohl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Welcome/etc.
Date: 8 Apr 1992 17:44:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
	<167C11199A.CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
	<rrcldINN8gm@agate.berkeley.edu> <29E1DBA1.11484@ics.uci.edu>
	<DANIELS.92Apr7152518@emu.apollo.hp.com> <ashabana.702751739@uclagsm>
NNTP-Posting-Host: stinson.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: ashabana@agsm.ucla.edu's message of 8 Apr 92 16:55:58 GMT

In article <ashabana.702751739@uclagsm> ashabana@agsm.ucla.edu (Ahmed Shabana) writes:

> daniels@apollo.hp.com (Stewart Daniels) writes:

> >United offers both a LAX-SYD-MEL service (no other stops), and a
> >LAX-AKL-MEL service.  The longer range of the 747-400 allows the
> >LAX-SYD route to be flown non-stop

Actually, UAL was flying a 747SP nonstop LAX/SYD and SYD/LAX (in early
'89) before they received delivery of the 747-400s.

> A few years ago I remember an article that mentionned that the longest
> segment was Tokyo - New York non-stop. The only airplane capable of
> flying it was the 747 SP. Is this still the case? 

JFK-NRT (or EWR-NRT) is something like 6400+ mi; timewise it's close to
SFO-HKG or LAX-SYD, but it is a shorter distance than LAX-SYD.
--
John Kohl <jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu>
UC Berkeley CS grad student
Member of the League for Programming Freedom--details: league@prep.ai.mit.edu
(The above opinions are MINE.  Don't put my words in somebody else's mouth!)
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: USair
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:13:54 GMT

In article <sjones.703421145@cunews> sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones) writes:
>In <29ECD9FF.9511@ics.uci.edu> davida@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (David Andersen) writes:
>While the last is true the former is not.  CP Air was purchased by
>Pacific Western (the parent company is still called PWA, I think) and
>turned into Canadian Airlines International.  The holding company also
>purchased Eastern Provincial Airlines, maybe even before it became
>Canadian, Nordair, and eventually Wardair.

CP ate Eastern Provincial and Nordair, _then_ PW ate CP to form CAI.
Then CAI ate Wardair.

RNA
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From: geo@syd.dit.csiro.au (George Bray)
Subject: Re: Unlimited Flight Tickets
Reply-To: geo@syd.dit.csiro.au (George Bray)
Organization: Sand Consulting, Guest of CSIRO Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 04:32:15 GMT

Oh Giday,

We've just started getting this newsgroup but it looks like I've missed
this discussion. Can somone mail me any messages related to this topic?

I live in Australia and plan to travel to USA, UK, Europe and Asia later
this year. I understand there are unlimited tickets if you travel in the same
direction. Do these have a time limit?

ta,

George Bray
geo@syd.dit.csiro.au
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 21:23:54 EDT
From: <REM7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Polar flights

Jon asked about flights going through (or close) the poles. I believe the
scheduled flight crossing closer to the South Pole is a weekly flight from
Buenos Aires to Auckland to Sydney. The airline is Aerolineas Argentinas,
and the whole trip (eastbound, BUE-SYD) takes about 22 hours. It is called,
of course, "the transpolar flight".

Raul Macchiavelli (REM7@psuvm.psu.edu)
Department of Statistics, PSU
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From: bgray@uglw.UVic.CA (Bob  Gray)
Subject: Re: Welcome/etc.
Reply-To: bgray@uglw.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 21:22:05 GMT

In article 28094@daffy.cs.wisc.edu, tinhang@cat49.cs.wisc.edu (Tinhang Ma) writes:
>In article <167C11199A.CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>>In article <rqcqmINN4qg@agate.berkeley.edu>
>>spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst) writes:
>>>(deleted)
>>> What is the longest (timewise/distance)
>>>nonstop air segment on regularly scheduled airlines?
>>>(deleted)
>>>Dan Landis (spanga@athena.berkeley.edu)  no sig**
>> 
>>Probably LAX - SYD nonstop on QANTAS or United Airlines. I think
>>travelling time is 14 hrs LAX - SYD and about 13 hrs SYD - LAX.
>>      Gerald Cheang (chegerh@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu)
>
>Direct flight by Cathay Pacific from Hongkong - London takes 17 hours
>						Frankfurt    15.5 hours
>
>I cannot guarentee that they are the longest, but they are at least longer
>than the trip mentioned above.
>
>--Tinhang
>

He was asking for nonstop, not direct flights ...  there's a bit of difference.

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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Increasing FF milage
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:47:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.201816.24055@cs.ucla.edu> tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes:
>so I was thinkng that if she had a stop over in Chicago,
>she would get credited with about the same number of miles for the
>ORD to LAX flight as the MKE to LAX flight, _and_ she would receive
>750 more miles for the 90 mile flight to O'Hare, for a total of about
>2550 miles.  For the inconvenience of a 1 hour stop-over and a plane
>change, she can increase the number of miles she earns by almost 40%.

Everything is OK here except that routing isn't available on NW.
She'll have to go via Minneapolis instead of Chicago.

People have been using these tricks for years.

RNA
From: acsossc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Samir Chaudhari)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: WOW!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:44:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	..Never thought i'd see 60 postings in a day. ..guess people really
needed this group.
-S
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From: michels@cs.UAlberta.CA (Michael Michels)
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:34:09 GMT

YEG-YVR                       Edmonton to Vancouver (Got to start somewhere)
YVR-HONALULU (SP?)            2 hours for refueling
HONALULU-Cairns
Cairns to Brisbane
Brisbane to SYD

That was a _very_ long day.  22 hours.

Andrei Chichak
c/o the above address
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From: schuyler@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Carlton Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Chicago to London/Paris to Chicago 
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:26:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.143540.5125@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gmcguffi@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Graeme/Guff) writes:
>My wife and I are thinking about going to Europe for a couple of
>weeks in July and August.  (OK, OK--we know that there may be a
>few other tourists there at the same time!)  What we would like to
>spend time in London, do a few weeks tooling around Europe in a
>leisurely manner, and then fly out of Paris.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions on the cheapest way(s) to do
>this?
>
The cheapest flight I have ever got to Europe was on Iceland Air, from
New York through Reykjavik to Luxembourg. (or Luxemburg, depending).
Of course, this is ignoring the fact that you have to get from Chicago
to New York (I believe Boston was the same price).  It cost $330,
roundtrip.  That was three years ago, though.

Any Q's, post or use email: schuyler@cis.ohio-state.edu
-Carl
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 02:20:48 EDT
From: S. Wukovitz <SXW103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Pakistani Airlines
Distribution: world

In article <kukdo7INNn22@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) says:
>I can't imagine why the employees of Pakistani Airlines would care
>what your religion is.

Because sometimes people are not nice to other people.  On the other
hand, mail from several people (thanks!) has informed me that this is
a great airline.  My mom and dad were all over the world in the late
60s and have managed to communicate much of their paranoia to me;
they're already a little worried, as I am going to be a young diabetic
female traveling alone.

-Stephanie
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