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From: eerke@cs.kun.nl (Eerke Boiten)
Newsgroups: rec.music.info,soc.culture.netherlands
Subject: CHART: Dutch Singles
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:08:14 GMT
Reply-To: eerke@cs.kun.nl
Followup-To: soc.culture.netherlands
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Originator: recmusic@cygnus

Dutch Top 10 (singles) 9-1-1993

1	1	I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU - whitney houston
2	2	WOULD I LIE TO YOU? - charles & eddie
3	4	DUR DUR D'E^TRE BE'BE'! - jordy
4	5	I'M GONNA GET YOU - bizarre inc & angie brown
5	3	VLIEG MET ME MEE (live)/gebabbel - p. de leeuw & w. alberti (NL)
6	6	HEAL THE WORLD - michael jackson
7	8	NEVER LET HER SLIP AWAY - undercover
8	7	BE MY BABY - vanessa paradis
9	14	ROCK WITH YOU - inner circle
10	22	TOM TRAUBERT'S BLUES - rod stewart
--- movers up in the rest of the top 40 ---
11	16	TAKE ME UP - sonic surfers & jocelyn brown (NL&)
13	29	WHY NOT JAZZ? - b.f.i.
16	30	EXTERMINATE! - snap
20	24	DEEPER AND DEEPER - madonna
23	--	IF I EVER FALL IN LOVE - shai
24	38	ROSIE - claw boys claw (NL)
26	--	STEAM - peter gabriel
31	37	PEOPLE EVERYDAY - arrested development
33	--	LIKE THE WAY I DO (live) - melissa etheridge
34	--	OUT OF SPACE - the prodigy
-- Comments --
NL = Dutch production; B = Belgian production
-- Expected in chart soon: --
FLESH & BLOOD - wilson phillips, MEGAMIX - gloria estefan, THESE BOOTS
ARE MADE FOR WALKING - billie ray cyrus, I LOVE YOU PERIOD - dan baird,
HOTEL ILLNESS - black crowes, HOPE OF DELIVERANCE - paul mccartney
--
Eerke Boiten (eerke@cs.kun.nl)
Dept. of Informatics (STOP Project)
University of Nijmegen, NL
From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.)
Subject: Re: Macrovision hilarity--get THIS!
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:08:58 GMT

Frank@mindlink.bc.ca (Frank I. Reiter) writes:

>> Mike S. writes:
>>
>>         To ensure the originality and high quality of this
>>         recording, this tape employs the Macrovision system.
>>
>I suspect the idea is that the Macrovision prevents people from making copies
>which, in their opinion, would be inferior quality.  Still, I did get a
>chuckle from the above.  :)

That's why I would almost be willing to let them slide on the
"originality" claim.  But they are obviously not concerned with
quality!

Mike
-- 
mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.)
Subject: Macrovision hilarity--get THIS!
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:36:57 GMT
Summary: Macrovision has a sense of humor after all!
Keywords: macrovision video unbelievable

Just rented Basic Instinct (hey--the SO wanted to see it :) last
night, and the opening on-screen blurb said something similar to:

	To ensure the originality and high quality of this
	recording, this tape employs the Macrovision system.

Right.  Originality I might be able to remotely begin to grasp,
but high quality?  Come on.....

Mike
-- 
mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: b1hg0jv@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Benash)
Subject: Re: Mail-Order Rec. Wanted
Keywords: Honarable Mail-Order Source
Organization: Bell Atlantic
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:11:34 GMT

Although I still would be interested in any information readers here can
offer, I did find that Adorama *does* sell Minolta camcorders.

Ray

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rtc@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (R. Todd Custer)
Subject: Re: HERE IS VCR Plus source code
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:44:38 GMT

Either I missed the posting of the source code or it did not get here for some
reason.  Would someone please email it to me.

Thanks in advance,

Todd Custer
Raytheon Company
Portsmouth, RI
rtc@sgfb.ssd.ray.com

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From: bk134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Keith William Bowes)
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Tape rewinder (Re: Tape snapped at beginning of tape)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:39:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng) writes on Thu Jan  7 12:10:43 1993:

> In article <4715@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>> Another hint.  Don't use those stupid tape rewinders.

> I have heard recommendation of using the rewinder instead the VCR to
> rewind tapes.  The reason is to reduce wear on my expensive VCR head
> mechanism.  Are there better brands of tape rewinders or are they
> all tape eaters?
-------------------------------
I highly recommend using a video tape rewinder. Most people,
who use the VCR to rewind tapes, end up with motor problems
at some point not too far into the life of the VCR. This is
why the rewinders became so popular and prolific.

The clear portion of tape at the beginning of the cassette serves
one main purpose. The VCR shines a light through the tape. While
rewinding, the light does not pass through the dark portion of the
tape so rewinding continues. As soon as the light passes through
the clear portion of the tape, a mechanism stops the rewinding
process and prevents the tape from reaching the "end of the line"
and snapping or otherwise stretching the tape.

All (as far as I know) the separate rewinders on the market do
NOT use this process when rewinding. They rewind until the tape
reaches the end and the rewinder detects the sudden taughtness
of the tape and disengages.

This DOES put some strain on the tape. After many MANY rewindings
using a separate rewinder, you may notice a visual distortion
during the first 5 seconds or so of a tape. This is because
the tape has become slightly stretched.

For the tapes that are reused almost daily to record one or two
shows that your going to watch then reuse the tape tomorrow, I
find this 5 seconds of distortion on older tapes a reasonable
trade off over paying $100 + to get your VCR fixed. Chances are
those 5 seconds are commercials anyway :-)

Therefore, using the techniques described in earlier posts
regarding dismantling the cassette, removing the portion of
reel that holds the end of the tape and re-inserting it with
the "new" end of the tape, are good advice, whether the clear
portion is intact or not. The clear portion is not important
AS LONG as you are going to CONTINUE to use the separate rewinder.
(Continuing to use the VCR to rewind tapes is another story.)

Keith Bowes
bk134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: harkin@cs.montana.edu (Gary Harkin)
Subject: Money to spend
Organization: CS
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:02:02 GMT

Since I know very little about video, I thought I might get some good
ideas from those of you that do.  Any suggestions/ideas would be
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

       /\            /\               
    /\/  \   /\     /  \           /\        
   Gary Harkin \/\ /    \/\   /\  /  \/\  /\ 
 / Department of Computer Science/      \/  \
/  Montana State University /    \    /\/   |
|  Bozeman, MT  59717-0388        \  /      |
|                                  \/       |
|  harkin@cs.montana.edu                    |
|-------------------------------------------|
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.consumers
From: creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps)
Subject: Re: Tape snapped at beginning of tape
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:34:05 GMT

In article <1id2nrINNq9g@shelley.u.washington.edu> roger@wrq.com (Roger Fulton) writes:
>Is it possible to repair a VHS tape that has
>broken from the take-up (right-side) reel?
>My rewinder broke this tape, and I'd like to
>fix it (the tape). 

   If it is really at the very beginning of the tape, it's probably
safe to use Scotch tape to repair it.  I'm assuming that since the
repair would be done at the beginning of the tape, the Scotch tape
would never pass across the heads.  If there is still too much slack
(i.e. the splice would pass over the heads), I suppose you could cut
the slack off the tape if you're sure you wouldn't lose anything.

   Also I know there are special splicing kits for movie film, so it's
fairly likely that there is also something similar for video tapes.

-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Steve Creps, Indiana University
creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: babb@sciences.sdsu.edu (J. Babb)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: NTSC->RGB+Sync
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:52:20 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: SDSU - LARC
NNTP-Posting-Host: larc.sdsu.edu

We've got a Sayett LCD projector that takes VGA or Macintosh Video (RGB+
Sync). We'd like to put video through it too. Sayett want $1000 for a
little black box that does this function. Anybody have a cheaper solution?
Jeff.
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.audio,sci.electronics
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Subject: Re: Looking for AKAI
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:46:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.155908.19491@mlb.semi.harris.com> mdh@mlb.semi.harris.com (Mark Hanson) writes:
}In article <1992Dec28.180216.13637@talos.pm.com>, vincent@talos.pm.com
}(Andy Vincent) writes:
}|> Anyone know where I can get in touch with AKAI Electronics or
}|> at least where I can order a manual and parts?
}|> 
}
}Bad News....
}Akai is gone.
}Went out of business from what I heard.

Service for Akai equipment is handled by Mitsubishi.  They them.
-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
From: TFSTAM01@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Looking for CDV 5" music videos
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:11:34 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky


 
I am interested in finding CDV-5" music videos.  I already have 3
(Madonna's Papa Don't Preach, Dire Straits' Money For Nothing, and
 a Robert Cray one) which I was lucky enough to find real cheap at
a flea market.  I have also found the only non-music video 5" CDV
in existence, the Will Clark baseball highlights.
Also, David Bowie's Ashes to Ashes is still available in the Sound+Vision
CD Boxed Set collection (and probably the easiest to find).
 
Unfortunately, there were only less than 100 titles ever made before
the CDV-5's were pulled off the market.  :-(
I was never before in the position (financially) to obtain them, and
am now ready....now that they're obsolete and extremely rare.
 
Of the ones that were released, I would most like to find John Cougar
Mellencamp's Paper In Fire.  Does anyone have this and willing to sell
or trade?  I might also like the Bon Jovi ones (although I'm not crazy
about their music, I know ppl who are).  If interested in selling or
trading for something, please E-mail me.
 
Also...does anyone know if this format will ever be reserected?
 
 
Thanks
 
Tim
tfstam01@ukcc.uky.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rsilvers@nynexst.com (Robert Silvers)
Subject: Re: Panasonic CTP-2780SF 27" TV, INFO please.
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 15:58:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.022456.23484@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (PRIMUS SUCKS!) writes:
>
>I am considering purchasing a 2780 Super Flat Panasonic television. I was
>wondering how do you netters fell about this TV set? My price range is
>600-750 and the 2780SF fits in that range and seems to be the best choice,
>does anybody have any other opinions, thanks!

	I wanted a Sony, but got the 2780SF instead.  I love it.  The tube is
great, and the built in sound is very good.  This is my only complaint:

It has audio in, and out.  I hooked up my LaserDisc to the in, and the out
to my stereo.  This seemed like the best solution because then the VIDEO
input on my stereo would be whatever source I was watching on my TV (tuner,
video-1, or video-2).  It had a high-pitched buzz on the output though, so
I had to stop running the LaserDisc player through the TV and had to plug
it directly into my stereo.  Major setback is percieved quality.

						--Rob.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: eric@telebit.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: Sony TR71 or FX510 - Help me decide!
X-Disclaimer: Everything I write is false.
Organization: Telebit Corporation
	<ASWEENEY.93Jan12122219@camelot.transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:53:15 GMT

>>On 12 Jan 93 12:22:19, asweeney@camelot.transfer.stratus.com (Andy Sweeney) said:
>   Hi-8 is only good if you have or plan to have S-VHS TV/VCR. I looked 
>   into both and found not much of a difference. 

I strongly disagree.  I don't own any VHS or SVHS equipment, and I find Hi-8
to be great!
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Canon ED-100 portable edit controler
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:09:52 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

Does anyone know what the "Timing Adjust" function does on the Canon ED-100 
pocket editor does?  Is it a RM-E300/700 type pre-roll adjust?

I assume the ED-100 is LANC? 

What does the LCD display?

This looks like a nice portable solution.

-- 
Jeff Killeen - DECUS U.S. Chapter NLC Chair | Email:killeen@eisner.decus.org

DECUS is for folks who are responsible for delivering computing technology.
The NLC is the national council for DECUS's Local User Groups - come join us!
From: cmc@cs.utexas.edu (Chi Ming Cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: head cleaner in VCR
Date: 7 Jan 1993 21:52:58 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: grit.cs.utexas.edu


I noticed that some VCRs comes with built-in head cleaners.  Are they
any good?

--M.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dave@imax.imax.com (Dave Martindale)
Subject: Re: Q: What cable type for S-video?
Organization: Imax Corporation, Mississauga Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:06:41 GMT

ins_wayne@actew.oz.au writes:
>  Situation: Having failed to locate an S-Video cable long
>  enough for my projector, I've been digging deeper and found the
>  connectors (no mean feat in itself!)
>
>  Question: anyone got any bright ideas about what kind of cable
>  to use?  Obviously, there are four wires.  We think we can get
>  by with microphone cable.  75 ohm figure-8 coax.  The stock in
>  question is "OFC" (oxygen free cable), so should be of decent
>  quality.  Two cores each, plus shield.  We'd connect the shields
>  together, of course.

You need two separate 75-ohm (RG-59 or equivalent) coax cables.
Microphone cable is *not* 75 ohm.  There are signal and ground
pins for each of Y and C, I think.  Signal pins go to centre
conductors of the coax, ground pins to the coax shield.

>  The 10m cable is one made specially for Sharp here, and they say
>  that they don't think S-video will run terribly well over much
>  more than 10m.  I'm prepared to give it a go.

Properly wired good-sized coaxial cable should work far beyond 10 m.
Perhaps really skinny 75 ohm coax has too high a loss to run significant
distances, but RG-59 style should be good for quite a distance.

	Dave
From: ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: HDTV - what's the deal?
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:56:40 GMT
Reply-To: ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson)
Followup-To: ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org
Organization: LaserMaster Corporation

A coworker today asked me a questions about HDTV.

What is the status of HDTV in the US?  If there's been an unusual delay, why 
is that?

Basically, here's what I'm asking.

Tell me what you know about HDTV.  Reply via email, and I'll summarize to the 
net.

thanks in advance.

chaz

..must think...bubble pipe will relax me and I think...
From: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Need Video Editing Recommendations
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:17:56 GMT
Reply-To: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Organization: NCR/ShareBase Corporation

In article <1993Jan6.004150.4824@spcvxb.spc.edu> killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:
>	Two Feral Industries C-100N			$ 3,000
				[...]
>							-------
>							$ 7,220
>
>[...]  I will cut in the video from the TR-101 tape as needed.  
>Since the TBC's keep everything in sync I can just switch between the two 
>video sources.

Have you considered using a Panasonic mixer instead of the two TBCs?
The WJ-AVE5, with the dual field-stores, looks real nice. It's not
quite full Hi-8 resolution, but real close. You save $1,600 and get
to do wipes and fades as well as cuts. I also believe (though am not
sure) that the the internal frame stores do enough enough jitter
elimination that you really don't have any need for a TBC. A reviewer
in Wedding Photography Today wrote that the outputs of the field-stores
looked very stable on a 'scope.

I'd be interested to know if there is a reason (other than resolution)
that you're avoiding the mixers.

-- 
Ted Marshall                             ted@sharebase.com   (408)369-5574
NCR Corp. (ShareBase Div.)             2055A Logic Dr., San Jose, CA 95124
The opinions expressed above are those of the poster and not his employer.
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From: dlou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou)
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
Subject: Impedence matching the video line
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:21:39 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego


I have a cable TV line coming into my house.  After it comes out of
the ground (flooded cable), it splices into a 30ft section of cable
(drop cable) and ends in a signal splitter.  The problem is that one
side  of the splitter uses different cable from the other side.  One
side uses the same type of cable as the short 30ft section between the
underground cable and the splitter.  The other side is cheap cable
bought from the hardware store (RG59, I think.  The drop cable I think
is RG58).  Obviously, all these are 75 Ohm coax lines.  Out of the
splitter, the cheap side is about 85ft and the drop cable is about
50ft.

My problem is that on channel 8 and 10, I get ghosting.  My best guess
is that I'm getting a reflection from the two different types of cable
out of the splitter.

My question is if there is anything I can do to get rid of the
ghosting without laying down new cable?  Will an attenuator get rid of
the reflection?  The system seems to work okay if one branch of the
split is not connected.


-- 
Dennis Lou             || "But Yossarian, what if everyone thought that way?"
dlou@ucsd.edu          || "Then I'd be crazy to think any other way!"
[backbone]!ucsd!dlou   |+====================================================
dlou@ucsd.BITNET       |Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak went to my high school.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps)
Subject: Re: VCR puts saw-toothed edge on tape
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:21:09 GMT

In article <C0CJGn.s9D@austin.ibm.com> cheung@cheung.austin.ibm.com (Po L. Cheung) writes:
>
>My Magnavox VCR (HiFi VHS, 6 years old) is putting a fine saw-toothed cringle
>on the bottom edge of the tape, as if something along the tape path is too
>narrow for the tape to pass through.
>
>It also seems that whenever the tape picks up that saw-toothed edge, I lose
>tracking on the HiFi Stereo track and to a smaller extent the video track.
>It happens intermittently, but mostly during record on brand new tapes
>(various brands: Sony, TDK, Maxell).  It happens less often to well-used tapes.
>
>The tape head and path look clean.  (I use a Sony dry head cleaning tape
>followed by a Memorex wet cleaning tape.)
>
>What's wrong?  Is this something I can fix myself?  Any suggestions
>and recommendations are appreciated.

   Sounds like it just needs a minor adjustment.  There is a part, I
think called a "P-post" or something like that, that guides the tape
across the heads.  Actually, there are probably more than one.  The
top of it should look like a screw, and it can be adjusted with a
screwdriver.  If the crinkling is on the bottom edge of your tapes,
then you probably want to raise the post.

   Beware, however, as this also affects the quality of your picture,
and if you're not careful you might "screw up" the adjustments on your
VCR, especially if you try to adjust both posts simultaneously.  If
you plan to try this, you might need to do it with the VCR actually
playing a tape, but don't sue me if you get electrocuted or zap a few
circuits.

-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Steve Creps, Indiana University
creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: maurices@clyde.uk.sun.com (Maurice Smith - Sun UK - FSE Edinburgh)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sound problems with Mits. HS-M55
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:37:04 GMT
Reply-To: maurices@clyde.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Colin I to have noticed this on several pre-recorded tapes that I have played on 
my Mitsubishi HSM55 , I have also noticed 'Crackles' on Nicam soundtrack from Mitsubushi video
as reported by Richard Harnwell.
I have exchanged tapes in the past for the crackles and found that other tapes didn't have that problem.
although I was always suspicous as the crackles only ever appeared on the right stereo track.
The Burr problem, I have heard on several tapes, exchanging one of these tapes solved the problem but 
I have still got the "Burr" on some others . This is pretty anoying when you have a subwoofer connected as part of your
A/V system.
out of intrest how long have you had your video for?
regards.
Maurice.

Xref: sparky rec.video:15455 alt.sources.d:1650
From: perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video,alt.sources.d
Subject: Re: HERE IS VCR Plus source code
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:13:14 GMT
Organization: Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York

In article <1992Dec31.175629.6976@cs.wisc.edu>, dws@ssec.wisc.edu (DaviD W. Sanderson) writes:
> The programs do NOT need today's date; they need the date of the
> television program.  This is something you couldn't get from the
> computer automatically, since it doesn't know the date of the
> television program.  To decode a vcrplus code meaningfully you must
> give the decode program not only the code but the date associated with
> the code.  (I.e. a given code has different meanings on different
> dates.)
> 
> For example, in this example in readme.txt:
> 
> : Example 4:  decode 1 2 93 19297
> :                 On January 2nd of 1993 you have asked a question.  You
> :                 want to know "what show does the VCRPLUS code 19297
> :                 represent?"  The program answers back
> :                 Code=  19297     1   4  93   Mapped_channel=  5  Start_time= 0900  Length=  30
> 
> I tried out the program like this:
> 
> 	decode 12 31 92 19297
> 
> (since I asked the question today, 31 Dec 1992) and it gave me a
> completely different result - what the code means when associated with
> today's date, instead of the date meaningfully associated with the
> code.

Sorry, but the documentation is correct.  You're right that the code
needs a date to be meaningful, but it does not have to be the date of
the program, only a date close to that of the program.  The date of the
program is encoded into the code, but the code is not complete enough
to specify every date in history, so it specifies a date within a
certain time frame and you need to know the time frame to derive the
date.  You'll notice that in the example in the documentation the date
given is 1/2/93 and the command indicates that the program is on
1/4/93.  I have also tried the above command with a date of 1/5/93 and
again got the correct answer.  You are correct that the command does
not give the correct answer given a date of 12/31/92.  That date is
apparently outside of the time frame for that code.  I haven't done
enough experiments to know what the time frame of a VCR Plus code is,
but I would imagine that it would probably be at least a week or two.
The fact that 12/31/92 and 1/4/93 are not in the same time frame is
probably due to the fact that the VCR Plus algorithm doesn't handle the
boundary between years very well.  Not surprising, given the
deliberately klugey and cryptic nature of the system.

Robert Perlberg
Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York
dwrsun4!perl@murphy.com -or- philabs!dwrsun4!perl

"We don't believe the software industry is ripping off the customer."
	-- Ken Wasch, executive director of the Software Publishers Association