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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub/SGP '93)
Subject: Re: X-Men cartoon Jan.9,1993 - what was different?
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:20:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.005334.19503@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jwlr@monet.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder) writes:
>
>>Is it jst me, or does anyone else think this show looks just TERRIBLE?
>>I've never watched an episode, just seen the commercials -- but when
>>you're sitting there watching the excellent BATMAN cartoon and you see
>>an ad for the X-MEN come on, doesn't it look like just total trash?  Why
>
>So you like rectangular faces, do you?
>
>I won't even get into the ambulatroy methods of Batman characters.
>
>					James Willer
>[any opinons above are copyrighted and may only be used with my permission]

I'd have to agree with the terrible animation of The X-Men compared to Batman. 
The Batman characters just move so freely.  Anybody remember seeing Wolverine
walk?  It looked as though somebody shoved something up his behind.  None of
the characters could seem to walk correctly.  Hopefully, it will get better. 
It was the first episode, and I didn't care for Batman that much at first but
now I love it.  The only thing that worries me about X-Men is that it seems a
little more geared for children unlike Batman which also has a nice appeal to
the older comic book crowd.

                                             Theron

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Re: Pre #94/GS#1 stuff dismissed (Was: Dumb post- can't help it...)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:42:46 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In a listing of what made the "first" X-Men (pre-#94) good, one fan listed:

>Here's what a die hard fan thinks:
>
>Actually, some of the pre-#94 stuff was pretty enjoyable too.
>Also quite a few of the key plot concepts of the Claremont years started
>then.  Eg. Among the pre #94 stuff we have : 
>
>1)	Mutants as outcasts of society,
>2)	Magneto and Prof X as opposite sides of the mutant cause,
>3)	Jean and Scott's somewhat tedious relationship,
>4)	Introduction of Banshee, Polaris and Havok,
>5)	The Sentinels
>6)	The Adams/Thomas stories, in particular the ones about the
>	Sentinels and the Savage Land.
>7)	The origin of the Juggernaut.  I thought the first battle
>	against the Juggernaut was one of the most exciting X-men stories
>	ever.
>8)	The Danger Room and Cerebro(sp?).
>9)	The original X-men when they were the new mutants !

Quite so! It also introduced the Stranger, one of my favorite Marvel cosmic
beings, if only because he's still "mysteriously cosmic" after all these
years because nobody uses him much. Sauron made his first appearance in
the early X-Men, as did the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (indeed, the BOEM
fought the school right through from #3-5, an almost unheard of plot thread).
The Blob showed up early on, as did the tragic Unus. Okay, I admit, there
also was Locust and Grotesk, and the end-of-the-series "peace meld" by Xavier
was kind of hokey, but one could almost point to the Factor Three storyline
as a precursor to the now-endless mutant vs. mutant crossovers.

>All in all, quite a lot of good stuff although probably a lot less 
>sophisticated compared to Claremont's work.

Oh, yes. The by-now-classic Perspective-Vanishing Point X-Logo also appeared
in the early series.

"Only the good die young. I figure I'll be around for another thirty million
 years or something." --Richard Darwin

 
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Cyclops' glasses -- an artistic look
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:33:53 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

Since Cyclops' power is mostly "on" (unless he runs out of juice
or has his power restrained), should side shots of his head while
he is wearing his glasses show a solid beam of optic blast going
from his eyes and hitting the glasses?

Do his optic blasts always come out at the same angle from his
eyes, no matter which way his eyes are pointed?

-Jon Kung
From: chem8w@jane.uh.edu (Councilman, David A.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men cartoon Jan.9,1993 - what was different?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 11:51 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1993Jan12.005334.19503@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jwlr@monet.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes...
>intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder) writes:
> 
>>Is it jst me, or does anyone else think this show looks just TERRIBLE?
>>I've never watched an episode, just seen the commercials -- but when
>>you're sitting there watching the excellent BATMAN cartoon and you see
>>an ad for the X-MEN come on, doesn't it look like just total trash?  Why
> 
>So you like rectangular faces, do you?
> 
>I won't even get into the ambulatory methods of Batman characters.

YES!

While BTAS's Gothic atmosphere is great, those faces BUG me.

Regarding X-Men TAS, it's a vast improvement over anything else on the 40 
channels I have...After seeing PRYDE OF THE XMEN years ago (and admittedly
renting it several times), I can live with the minor changes and 
animation errors in NIGHT OF THE SENTINELS...Im just glad to see my favorite
superheroes on TV <sniff sniff>

>[any opinons above are copyrighted and may only be used with my permission]

Oops. =)
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:25:54 -0500 
From: Eric Thomas Pronko <punisher+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Invulnerability and hair
	<1993Jan11.062706.685@netcom.com>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 11-Jan-93 Re:
Invulnerability and hair B. Austin Davis@netcom.c (2251)

> Why doesnt Scott wear contacts?

well, putting them in would be hell.


> he doesnt need to breath i dont 
> think.

well, way back in an ish i don't remember (early 200's) the guy who
could alter densities sunk colossus into the ground, and kittie or rogue
went into the ground to get him because "he would suffocate."  then
again, continuity is not one of marvel's strong suits.

eric
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: PRESENTING>>> The MU Absorb-Off!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:45:26 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>i'd like to know what would happen if rogue and gideon touched
>
>seth I

Why, Seth I, (is there a series?), I thought it'd be obvious:

True Love >sigh<.

But, actually, why just consign it to Rogue and Gideon? Let's bring in the
rest of the MU absorbers, dead, living, and oblivious, and have a royal
party of it all!

From the rolly-polly Sixties, the first non-mutant member of the X-Men,
the best living proof to *not* let your dad do strange expermiments in a
cave, Calvin Rankin, the MIMIC!

From the same time, but a different brand of books, that ever-eloquent
fashion plate for the blind, the SUPER-ADAPTOID!

And, hey, while we're dealing with non-living lifeforms, why not throw
in the most classic name for a supervillain ever:  THE MAD THINKER'S
AWESOME ANDROID, who has, of course, the ability to at least partially
absorb the strength of his (it's?) attacker.

From the crushed planet of Xandor, the POWERMAKER (??? Fuzzy on the name,
haven't read my old Novas in a while), just for the obscurity of it all.

The home favorite, and best excuse to learn how to hair style, ROGUE herself,
wondering just what the hell she wandered in to.

GIDEON is next, with his oh-so-current ponytail bob, trying to hide the
bruises from the fact that he was defeated by a *non-powered* individual.

And, for the one and original, the Big Kahuna, The Hunk of Burning Butch, the
One, the Only, the ABSORBING MAN, who has died more painful deaths than all
the X-Men combined... and he *still* comes back! And, hey, he had a cute
girlfriend for awhile, too....


Okay, the stage is set. Any other absorbers we have hanging around we ignore,
because I didn't remember them in time? And now, the whistle's blown,
the referee jumps for cover, as the one and only question goes booming out
over the landscape:  HO'OD WIN?

I'll let you think about it, and post my response later.

"I must express my *deep* *concern*, Mr. Withing. I was not *aware* that your
 store allowed... *punks* in it."  --Richard Darwin

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: idbremne@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Ian David Bremner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re:  Bishop Energy Redirection, Stryfe Circuitry
Date: 11 Jan 1993 05:10:02 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University, Thunder Bay, Ont., Canada

In article <10JAN199321501287@udel.edu> jdelisle@udel.edu writes:
>In article <10JAN199318472628@zeus.tamu.edu>, djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu writes...
>
>>i also wonder about the definition of bishops power.
>>energy rechanneler is to easy because they haven't showed him channel
>>solar energy or grab a power line and electrify some one.
>
>	I think he can only absorb and channel mutant energies. Since he
>can't absorb radiation, one could assume he can't handle other, non-mutant
>sources.

Forgive me if I am wrong but didn't Cable nail Bishop with an energy weapon
while they (Cable, Bishop, and Wolverine) were raiding Department K?  I am sure
that Bishop used this energy blast to hit Cable back. 
I don't think that this blast would be considered a mutant energy.

(If I am right, can't Bishop just walk around and shoot himself when ever he
needs a charge?)

I was wondering...
     If that circuitry that was on Stryfe's back could be some sort
of TK enhancer?

     Could Cable be NCCS after the virus ran its course?  If his brain tissue
was unaffected?   
-- 
------------------------idbremne@thunder.lakeheadu.ca--------------------------
Rule 1.  Guilt Goes Away!
Rule 2.  What your __ doesn't know, wont hurt it.  What your __ finds out, DENY
Rule 3.  Perfect Excuse = 'Hey, it's my nature."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: Re: Cable's new look
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:43:57 GMT

In article <1ifruvINNmo6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder) writes:
>
>Well, Cable's back and he looks a little different.  All those who think
>Marvel's found a quick and dirty method to avoid Rob Liefeld sueing them
>over his alleged creation of Cable, raise your hands!!

Is Liefield REALLY trying to sue Marvel over Cable?  I thought that Marvel
had the rights to all its characters, regardless of their creator.  And 
that this very issue was a key in the starting of IMAGE.

(Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am getting old these days and
do not know insider details like in I did in my youth.  :-))
-- 
-- Thad Crews                             (email thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)
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From: cb147@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Barzilai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
Subject: An inquiry:
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:22:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cb147@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Barzilai)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Would anyone in this forum know offhand the answer to the
following inquiry?:

Where is the statue entitled "Thinking Man" located?

Please reply to cb147@cleveland.freenet.edu
thank you.

Sincerely,

D.B.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
From: carpente@lds.loral.com (Mike Carpenter 6825)
Subject: Re: An inquiry:
Organization: Loral Data Systems
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:21:11 GMT

The original "The Thinker" aka the thinking man is located in the garden of
the "Musee de Rodin" in Paris along with the very interesting "Gate of Hell"
sculpture.  If you are ever in Paris do NOT miss this museum.
From: miliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (zaphod)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Dance Music
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:58:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

It's been a while since I've seen postings of lists of songs.  Are
updated lists available?  Also, some time ago there was mention of
"the Tango Project CD."  Does anyone have any more info on it?

			Zaphod
			miliu@ucsd.edu
From: moroney@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Richard M. Moroney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Re: Looking for footstep diagrams
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:06:02
Organization: BSAC, U.C. Berkeley, Berkeley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: vachon.michel@uqam.ca's message of 11 Jan 93 19:43:33 GMT


As some previous posters mentioned, dancing is more than just foot
placement.  However a book with information including foot diagrams
can be very useful, so let me plug the one that I have found helpful:

	"Modern Ballroom Dancing", by Victor Silvester (Stanley Paul &
	Co., London, 1990)

It has a brief history of ballroom dancing followed by notes on most
bronze and silver figures in all 10 international style dances.
Pictures of feet are limited to several steps in the smooth dances.

This book is widely available in the Bay Area (several of the larger
bookstores carry it regularly) so you may be able to find it where you
are, too.

Happy dancing!
--
Richard
moroney@diva.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: anyone familiar with contact improvisation?
From: dkiecker@dion.gac.edu (Denise A Kiecker)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:32:33 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
NNTP-Posting-Host: dion.gac.edu

i just recently began learning some of the techniques behind contact  
improvisation.  i was wondering if anyone else out there is interested in  
this unique dance form and if there are any sort of organizations one can  
join.  my class will be over in about a month and i would like to continue  
to share this dance with others.  i am from the twin cities area in  
minnesota and go to school in the mankato area, but am interested in  
hearing from anyone.
if you have any insight please email me at dkiecker@nic.gac.edu
thank you and have a truly magical day 

denise
enjoy the simple things in life
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: Glenn Boyd <boyd@rabi.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Untitled mail message gatewayed from ballroom@athena.mit.edu
Gatewayed-From: ballroom@athena.mit.edu
Reply-To: Glenn Boyd <boyd@rabi.uchicago.edu>
Organization: None
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:51:16 GMT
Keywords: ballroom, mailing list

   Some friends of mine are researching a dance called Trankey Doo which was performed
in the 40's at a place called The DeLisa Club, a black club on Chicago's South side.
Does anyone have information regarding either the dance or the club? 

   Also, does anyone know the results of the Russian Championships held in Moscow
last month?  In particular, did the Tarsinovs retain their title? 

   Any responses would be much appreciated.

   Thanks,

      Glenn
From: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Looking for Jay Dusenbury
Date: 6 Jan 1993 23:04:53 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: greve.ucs.ubc.ca

Sorry for intruding this way but I'm trying to get hold of Jay Dusenbury. I've
tried sending messages to dusenbury@galaxy.decnet.lockheed.com but they don't
seem to be making it through. 

Jay, I saw a couple of postings by you on locally available cha-chas and rumbas
and was wondering if you had any other lists available that you could send me
or that you would be willing to swap for.

   George
-- 
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University Computing Services, UBC               fax:      (604) 822-5116
6356 Agricultural Road, Vancouver, B.C., Canada  internet: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca
V6T 1Z2                                          bitnet:   USERGNL@UBCMTSG
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: Michel Vachon <vachon.michel@uqam.ca>
Subject: Re: Looking for footstep diagrams
X-Xxdate: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:01:33 GMT
Organization: UQAM-Service de l'informatique
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:58:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.214111.12978@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Pavlik Mintz,
mintz@took.enet.dec.com writes:

>I once had a volleyball coach who said that volleyball was about
>your feet, even though you play the ball with your hands.
>
>Similarly, I would say that dancing is about your body, even
>though you move with your feet.

I totally agree with you, Pavlik, but I would say that you can really
move with your body once you don't have to think about your footwork any
more. You must also consider another aspect of the question: in social
dancing, you have only one partner and if you want to keep her, you
better keep off her feet! 

>You might want to consider video tapes for use at home (some libraries
>have them, or they are available mail order) so that you can look
>more than just where the feet go.

Good suggestion! Thanks!

Michel
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: mintz@took.enet.dec.com (Pavlik Mintz)
Subject: Re: Looking for footstep diagrams
Reply-To: mintz@qkstep.lkg.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:41:11 GMT


I once had a volleyball coach who said that volleyball was about
your feet, even though you play the ball with your hands.

Similarly, I would say that dancing is about your body, even
though you move with your feet.

You might want to consider video tapes for use at home (some libraries
have them, or they are available mail order) so that you can look
more than just where the feet go.

-- Pavlik
From: MACDONAN@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Re: Dance in London (and elsewhere)
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:23:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk

==============================================================================

    Calling all New Dance enthusiasts....
      British choreographer Sue MacLennan tours her new piece
        "Spontaneous Combustion" throughout England during January
       and February. 15 & 16 January - Ferens Art Gallery, Hull.
      20 January - Gardner Arts Centre, Brighton. 26 January -
      The Leadmill, Sheffield. 2 February - Surrey University,
      Guildford. 11 February - The University, Derby. 15 & 16
      February - The Spring Loaded Festival, The Place, London.

don't miss it.......
From: Callum.Downie@brunel.ac.uk (Callum Downie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Dance performance at The Place, London, 13/1/93
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:05:53 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.dance
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

A friend, Lance Fuller, is putting on a show as part of the Resolutions series at The Place, Duke Rd
, opp Euston Station, on Wednesday, 13/1/93, at 7.30pm.

This should be a fun evening.

If you are new to Contemporary/Modern Dance, you should be entertained and interested.
For everyone else, here's some background, then come along and make up your own mind: his group is c
alled Continental Breakfast; he is a New Zealander who has come here via the US, and has trained in
Ballet, Contemporary/Modern and Tap

I think tickets are 6 pounds ( 4 pounds concessions which I presume includes students).
-- 
callum.downie@brunel.ac.uk
Callum Downie, Faculty of Technology, Brunel University, Uxbridge, UB8 3PH, UK
+44 895 274000 x2730

4.003 Die meisten Saetze und Fragen, welche ueber philosophische Dinge geschrieben worden sind, sind nicht falsch, sondern unsinnig.
7     Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss man schweigen.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: Michel Vachon <vachon.michel@uqam.ca>
Subject: Looking for footstep diagrams
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:46:26 GMT
Organization: UQAM-Service de l'informatique
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:43:33 GMT

I have just begun learning social ballroom dancing and it's great!
 But I am trying to find illustrations showing the footwork
so I could practice at home. I would really appreciate if anyone could
suggest 
a book (with references) or anything else I could find or order from a
bookstore.
I have gone trought used books stores to find old Arthur Murray
publications
but without success so far. Thanks for your time!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: vlsisj!smds!linsley@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com (Chuck Linsley)
Subject: Re: London and surrounding area dance info wanted
Gatewayed-From: ballroom@athena.mit.edu
Reply-To: vlsisj!smds!linsley@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com
Organization: None
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:09:13 GMT
Keywords: ballroom, mailing list

mfactor@bbn.com (Mara Factor) writes:
> I'm going to be on vacation in London from 4 Feb. to 14 Feb
> and would appreciate hearing about dance opportunities in 
> the London area and beyond 

In a similar vein, my bride and I will be honeymooning in London
from 16 Feb to 22 Feb, and we, too, "would appreciate hearing about dance 
opportunities in the London area."  Specifically, we are interested in 
social ballroom dancing.  (That's how we met. :-)

Thanks for any info you can provide.

Chuck Linsley
Don't trust 'Reply.'  vlsisj!smds!linsley@decwrl.dec.com seems to work,
but if you can find a better path, I'd love to find out about it.

Xref: sparky rec.arts.dance:996 rec.folk-dancing:2191
From: mfactor@bbn.com (Mara Factor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance,rec.folk-dancing
Subject: London and surrounding area dance info wanted
Keywords: ballroom, folk
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:16:15 GMT
Reply-To: mfactor@bbn.com (Mara Factor)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I'm going to be on vacation in London from 4 Feb. to 14 Feb
and would appreciate hearing about dance opportunities in 
the London area and beyond (I may spend a couple of days away 
from London during that period).  I'm interested in:

	swing/jive/lindy/jitterbug (or whatever you prefer to call it)
	ballroom (not competition level)
	English Country Dancing
	traditional 'New England style' contras and squares
	Western Squares (through plus level) and rounds (intermediate +)

Specifically, as I may be traveling alone, I'm interested in dances
or places to dance where single people are welcome.  Also, any
specific information regarding dates, times, people to contact, 
and locations would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Mara
mfactor@bbn.com
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