HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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> We are assembling a brief guide for our users
> who have been using various mainframes or
> workstations, and wish to switch to a different
> machine. We are including some comprison tables
> on data representation on five workstations and 
> two mainframes, primarily for FORTRAN programmers
> (yes, they still exist!). I have been digging through the
> manuals, and I have not been able to find the
> following on the HP Apollo (Series 700):
> 
> 1. how many decimal digits of precision with REAL*4 and REAL*8?
Real*4: ~ 7 digits; Real*8: ~16 digits; Real*16: 34 digits.

> 2. is a character constant stored left to right or right to left?
If I understand your question, they are stored left to right (no
byte swapping). Actually they are stored in memory as a sequence of 
ASCII codes, 1 per byte.

Both of these questions are answered in the "FORTRAN/9000 Reference",
part number B1688-90000.  Another good reference you should check is the
"HP-UX Portability Guide", part number B1864-90006.

Mike McNelly
mike@fc.hp.com

Not an official spokesman for anybody but myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon)
Subject: Re: File-splitter for email
Originator: rvloon@triton.cv.ruu.nl
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:15:42 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group

In <60044@hpfcse.HP.COM> felixk@hpfcse.HP.COM (Felix Krasovec) writes:

|"Try the split command.
|"-chewy

Better yet, try 'shar 3.49'. It is able to split files and reassemble them in
one shell archive, both binary and text data. It's better than HPs shar. For
plain ASCII files, split is sufficient of course. The nice advantage of
shar3.49 is that it will reassemble automatically at the other end.
-- 
Ronald van Loon (rvloon@cv.ruu.nl) 3DCV Group, Utrecht, The Netherlands.

"I believe the word you are looking for is "AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!"
    - The Penguin (Batman ][)
From: manoj@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Manoj Dadoo)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:31:59 GMT
Subject: Re: that HPUX cc compiler
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp


The 9.0 version of compiler fixed a number of bugs in optimizer. We have 
tried a number of applications which did not work correctly with 8.07 and
earlier versions of compiler and found them to work correctly with 9.0 version.
The 9.0 version of compiler will be released shortly.

We are trying to contact by e-mail all of you who reported the optimizer
problems on this notes string to possibly get the sources and try out with
9.0 compiler.

Reliability of optimizer to produce correct code is our primary concern and
we pay lots of attention towards testing of the optimizer. We would like
to hear about your optimization related  problems because analysis of
problems will help us improve the quality of optimizer in future.

Thanks a lot for reporting the problems.

Manoj Dadoo
Optimizer Group 
Hewlett-Packard
e-mail: manoj@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: terjej@lys.uio.no (Terje Johnsen)
Subject: Error messages from print jobs.
Keywords: Printing
Reply-To: terjej@lys.uio.no (Terje Johnsen)
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Oslo
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:46:44 GMT

HELP needed. 

We have so far tried to use the parallel interface to
connect to a printer from our HP 750 (8.05). 
When a postscript file contains
some errors, we do not get a message telling us
what goes wrong. 
Will the log file contain error messages from the
printer if we use a serial line to connect to the printer
instead?

Another question:
	How can we avoid the cover page with username
	in all the printjobs. Where is it set up?


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From: ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:05:04 GMT
Subject: Re: How do I convert major/minor combination to a tty device.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> I'm looking for a way to convert a major/minor combination to a string
> defining a tty device.

The next release will include a new devnm(3) library call.

Meanwhile, ttyname(3) will do what you want -- if the terminal is
available as an open file.
From: ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Weird disk usage problem.
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:40:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> ...if i do a du from the root directory of the disk, it lists
> directories and files I deleted.  If I switch to one of the directories
> with the phantom files and do a du on that, the files are not listed.

Hmm...  just some guesses, is anything funny going on with symbolic
links?  Are any processes holding the files open (but unlinked)?  (The
latter should have still shown up through fsck.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: olsen_jo@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0
Summary: No, it's not OSF
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:58:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.200543.28463@riacs.edu>, okuyama@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Darin Okuyama YR) writes:
> This may be a dumb question but: is HP-UX 9.0 going
> to be OSF?  Can someone give me some details on what
> kinds of MAJOR things are going to change when HP
> moves to 9.0.
> 
> Darin Okuyama
> NASA Ames Research Center
> 
Nope.  OSF revision numbering is in the 1.X range I believe.  The 9.0 will
be genuine HP-UX.

John Olsen (Used to work for HP in Fort Collins)
olsen_jo@uvadm.uvcc.edu
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:10:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Again, trouble with european HP-UX software support
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

(Sorry for my late reply. I was on vacation.)

yrjola@hkkk.fi (Matti Yrjola) writes:

>In <28510289@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com> franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC) writes:
[deleted]
>>DEC					HP
>>===					==
>>Software Dispatch			Software Status/Release Bulletin
>>DSIN					HP SupportLine
>>Self Maintenance Binary Distribution	BasicLine (every two months)
>
>What does the BasicLine two month timeframe actually mean?
>I have heard a term called "DART" (Distributed Application Release
>Train ??) from HP Finland, but haven't seen it yet. Should it be
>a CDROM-based software distribution released every two months?
>If so we would be really happy to see it in action.

  Yes, I meant "DART". It is available both on CD-ROM and on tape. Your
local HP support organization should be able to inform you about this.

>Getting new releases (both operating system and applications) of
>software in a timely basis is a drag. I can't speak for anybody else,
>but it looks like the software distribution in Europe is way behind
>of that in the US. Is this real or are we a special case?

  Of course I can not objectively answer this one. My personal
impression is that there used to be a big delay between the US and
Europe. Nowadays the delays are much less, at least for The Netherlands.
However, for reasons unknown to me, there apparently are still
relatively many complaints (in comp.sys.hp) from certain countries (UK
comes to mind).

[deleted]

>>Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
>
>Keep up the good work.

  Thanks.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mjb%hoosier.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Bradakis)
Subject: local/remote console config?
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:27:24 MDT
Organization: Fat Chance Garage and Brewery

Boy, do I feel dumb.  We just installed one A2042A board in our 400s to make
it a 433s machine.  The problem is, the new board is set for a remote console
over a serial port, but I want to have it use the graphics card for the
console.  And I can't find how to change it.  I have docs for the 300, the
700 machines and the 800 machines, but do not seem to have any info on the
400 machines!  The booklet I do have says something like "Check the Peripheral
Installation Guide, Vol. 1 and 2 to change the default settings" and of course
all the manuals I have do not cover the 400.

Can anyone out there tell me what switch, jumper or ?? needs to be frobbed
to get the machine to use the local console?

Thanks,
mjb.


                                                 mjb@hoosier.utah.edu
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Linker selection of symbols from shared-libs
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:23:10 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

This is a question about the HPUX linker, and the order that 
it resolves symbols.

Lets say I have a shared lib, libmine.sl, and there is a function in
libmine.sl called write().

So I build my program with:

cc program.c -o program -lmine

will program use the write in libc.sl or in libmine.sl?

(actually, the answer is libc.sl)

Can I force the opposite behavior, so that my library can overwrite the
symbols provided in libc.sl?

stuart
From: mabrams@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Michael Abrams)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 19:41:45 GMT
Subject: Re: help needed on understanding output of 'sar -v' ??
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Please note that the text table entry is bogus, as of 8.0, since we no longer
use a text table. The field is required for sar, so we present it, even though
it is meaningless. Also, the value for the number of inodes is generally
wrong, though in the right ball park. You are probably more concerned with
overflows than how many entries in the inode table are currently in use. (The
size of the inode table is correct, but the number of entries in use turns
out to be somewhat unclear, due to caching.) 

mike abrams
My own interpretations...
From: brown@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Brown)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:06:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Help on CRX-24 /Motif
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

I need the xmon utilities (xmonui/xmond) for an 800 series at 8.0.
Does anyone know where I can find them, either linked for the 800 or
the .o's?  I have versions for the 700, but that is not doing me
much good :-(.  

Thanks,
John Morris
jrm@hpuerca.atl.hp.com
(t/404) 850-2185
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From: michel@cst02.segin.com (Michel Pollet)
Subject: Network mapping instead of adress mapping with ip_to_x121 ?
Reply-To: michel%cst02.segin.com@relay.prime.com (Michel Pollet)
Organization: Segin, Groupe Axime
Distribution: comp
Date: 24 Aug 92 14:21:36 GMT

I have a HP9850 here with a x25 card configured for ip over x25, I use
the ip_to_x121 file for mapping internet adresses to x25 ones, but I got
a problem because I can't uses a line like :
0.0.0.0	<x25_adress>

I want to do that to be able to have a route like
route add default <ip_adress of my x25 card>
to use a remote machine as the router for all unknown adresses.

The problem is that I can add this route to the system, but i'll have to map
ALL the internet adresses of the machines I want to talk to with the x121
adress of the gateway I want to uses. That's why I'd like to have network
mapping instead of adress mapping for the x25 driver.

Does somebody know of a solution ? I tried many tricks, but so far, no luck.

Michel
-- 
-  Michel Pollet  :  michel@segin.com (Office), michel@trantor.gna.org (Home) -
-- All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.            --
From: hstroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Howard Stroyan)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:46:10 GMT
Subject: Re: REQUEST: SCSI driver for ScanJet IIc on HP-UX 8.0
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, craigh@g2syd.genasys.com.au (Craig Hockenberry) writes:

> I would like to run a HP ScanJet IIc in the HP-UX 8.0 environment.  This
> scanner is connected via a SCSI interface, and is supplied with software
> for either the IBM-PC or the Mac.

This may not be what you have in mind, but there is a 3rd party application 
which supports using the ScanJet IIc on an hpux SCSI.  If nothing else it
provides confirmation that it is possible :-).

The product is "PixelFX" from:
 Mentalix, Inc.
 1700 Alma Drive #110
 Plano, TX 75075
 Voice: (214)423-9377
 Fax:   (214)423-1145


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Hewlett-Packard                                        hstroyan@fc.hp.com
User Interface Technology Division                     
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From: dan@s3camel.scubed.com (Dan Peterka)
Subject: CAP and a missing m4 macro language processor
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:38:00 GMT


I've got the latest greatest CAP that want to compile on our 720 under
HP-UX 8.05 which is supported according to the CAP documentation.
Problem is that CAP requires the m4 macro processor to create system
appropriate makefiles. As far as I can tell, there is no such beast on
our HP, nor any hint of it either. Is it supposed to be there? On our
Sun's, m4 is located in the binary area for System V programs, so I'm
doubly surprised to have it missing on our HP. What gives?

Dan
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From: shengj@acf3.nyu.edu (Jia Sheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Compiling X11R5 on HP9k/360 --- HELP!
Keywords: X11R5
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:43:12 GMT
Organization: New York University


Hi, after applying all patches on X11R5 source, I started to compile it on
HP9000/360(hpux6.5). Everything went smoothly except when buliding libXmu,
there is one error message:

	cc -c -O -Wc,-Nd4000,-Ns4100,-Ne700,-Np200,-Nw300 -DX_NOT_STDC_ENV -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -DX_NOT_POSIX   -I../../.  -DSYSV     Xct.c
"Xct.c", line 293: size_t undefined
"Xct.c", line 293: incorrect function
"Xct.c", line 293: incorrect function
"Xct.c", line 325: size_t undefined
"Xct.c", line 325: incorrect function
"Xct.c", line 325: incorrect function
*** Error code 1

/****** line 293 of Xct.c ******/
	bcopy((char *)enc, (char *)ptr, len);
/****** line 325 of Xct.c ******/
    bcopy((char *)data->item, (char *)priv->itembuf, data->item_length);

I trace it to X11/Xfuncs.h

/****** Xfuncs.h ******/

#if (__STDC__ && !defined(X_NOT_STDC_ENV) && !defined(sun) && !defined(macII)) || defined(SVR4) || defined(hpux) || defined(_IBMR2)
#include <string.h>
#define bcopy(b1,b2,len) memmove(b2, b1, (size_t)(len))
#define bzero(b,len) memset(b, 0, (size_t)(len))
#define bcmp(b1,b2,len) memcmp(b1, b2, (size_t)(len))

Anybody know how to fix this problem?


Jonathan J. Sheng
Theoretical Chemistry, NYU
(212)998-8439
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Jonathan J. Sheng
Theoretical Chemistry, NYU
(212)998-8439
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: daemon won't start in rc file
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:17:30 GMT

In article <NVJ.715267582@tpdhp> michali@tpdhp.uucp (Paul Michali) writes:
>  Next I placed the line "/etc/erpcd" into the rc
>file, but the daemon isn't running after we reboot the HP!!!!???? Is there
>something really stupid, that I am forgetting?  The file protection is 755
>and is owned by 'bin'.  I tried the line 'if [ -x /etc/erpcd ] then  
/etc/erpcd'

i use the erpcd daemon on my HP 9/822S in the localrc() function of the 
/etc/rc as follows:

        nohup /usr/local/etc/erpcd&

are you sure you are using a nohup? and running it in background?
--
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     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
            vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: Strange packaging technique
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:12:15 GMT

In article <0ylnpl#.snow@netcom.com> snow@netcom.com (Tim Szeliga) writes:
>
>A few years ago, we got a disk drive in a big packing case. To lodge
>the drive securely in the box, there was a heavy 20 inch length of 1.5"x1.5"
>hardwood.  Stenciled on the side (you're getting ahead of me here),
>was the phrase (you guessed it) "HP P/N 19511-80014".  

i was inside a Sun Sparc2 last night, doing a CPU replacement the spare slots
for DB25's are covered by resuable snap-in covers. complete with Sun
part number --- REVISION 52!!!

how many tries does it take to get a snap-on cover down pat :)

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     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
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From: rz66026@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com (Bob Shew <Shew@Lilly.Com>)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Help!  HP1000 & Networked Serial Devices
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:33:15 GMT
Reply-To: Shew@Lilly.Com
Distribution: local,world
Organization: Eli Lilly and Company


I need to know if anyone has done this before, or if they know that it does
work.  We have some HP1000 systems that are used for data collection with A/D
converters.  The HP1000 systems are on Ethernet running TCP/IP.  Currently, all
of the A/D converters are attached to the HP1000 by direct, hard-wired RS232
connections.  We would like to do the data collection over Ethernet(TCP/IP)
with terminal servers.  So here it what is looks like:

Current:
 
       A/D Cvt. ---------- serial line ------------- HP1000
 
Desired:
 
       A/D Cvt. -- serial line -- Term. Server -- Ethernet -- HP1000
 
 
The bottom line question is "does HP support virtual application ports on
the HP1000?"
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Bob Shew
Shew@Lilly.Com
 
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From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Xaw and Xmu (on HP-UX Porting center)
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:30:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <1992Aug25.124210.29815@dxcern.cern.ch>, xexeo@dxcern.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo) writes:
> I am trying to install software from the HP-UX Porting center.
> My problem is that their Xaw asks for the existence for Xmu
> (Xmu/Converters.h), which I (and them) don't have.

This was a minor oversight (OK, a fairly major) on my part which was fixed
about a week ago. Retransfer /hpux/X11/Xaw-4.00.tar.Z - it now has the Xmu
include files too. The archive site is ftp.csc.liv.ac.uk in case people don't
know and has over 150 packages tested on Series 700 machines (most of which
should work on Series 300/400/800 machines too). Go for /README and /Conventions
first of all if you haven't already.

There will be a second "official" posting about the Archive shortly.

Archive Librarian,        E-mail: ftp@csc.liv.ac.uk
Computer Science Dept.,
Liverpool University, 
Merseyside, England,
Great Britain.
From: larryt@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Larry Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:31:19 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

I don't know if this will help or not. It is a copy of a note that was 
posted awhile back (April). I don't think the authors knowledge of where HP 
was going with PA-RISC and the 68K product lines was very good, but his 
insights into the OSF seem pretty good even today.

This is my personal opinion. Not an offical statement of the Hewlett-Packard
Company.
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From daeltoft@icaen.uiowa.edu Fri Apr 17 09:28:19 1992
Relay-Version: version Notes 2.8.4  1990/05/09; site hpcupt3.cup.hp.com
From: daeltoft@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Eltoft)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:28:19 GMT
Date-Received: Sat, 18 Apr 1992 20:48:49 GMT
Subject: HP & OSF plans
Organization: InterWorks
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 3rd party QIC tape drives
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:19:13 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

The only device files I know of that work wih 3rd party tapes are these:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


================
QIC Tape Drives
================

Type		Device		Major #		Driver		Minor #
----		------		-------		------		-------
QIC, Berkley,	/dev/rmt/#mn	54		scsitape	0x201#4b
no rewind

QIC, Berkley,	/dev/rmt/#m	54		scsitape	0x201#4a
auto rewind

QIC, AT&T,	/dev/rmt/#m	54		scsitape	0x201#49
no rewind

QIC, AT&T,	/dev/rmt/#m	54		scsitape	0x201#48
auto rewind


==================
8mm Tape Drives
==================



Type		Device		Major #		Driver		Minor #
----		------		-------		------		-------
Exabyte, 	/dev/rmt/#mn	54		scsitape	0x201#43
Berkely,
no rewind

Exabyte, 	/dev/rmt/#m	54		scsitape	0x201#42
Berkely,
auto rewind

Exabyte, AT&T,	/dev/rmt/#m	54		scsitape	0x201#41
no rewind

Exabyte, AT&T,	/dev/rmt/#m	54		scsitape	0x201#40
auto rewind
From: mobej@thaad-1g%hac2arpa.hac.com (Mario Obejas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: what's a HP 425e?
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:23:31 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

turrell@violet.berkeley.edu (David Turrell) writes:
: In <22B6NIO@zelator.in-berlin.de>
: hollywd@zelator.in-berlin.de (Stuart Hollywood) writes:
: 
: >well the subject says it all!
: >(e-mail would be fine)
: >stuart
: 
: [From the Spring/Summer 1992 HP Apollo Direct Workstation Catalog.]
[...]
: [Prices have been cut since the catalog was issued, but for reference
: here are the catalog's prices, in US dollars, for similar
: configurations of each machine.]
: 
: 425e	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 16" EVRX Color)		$11,990
: 425t	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 19" CRX Color)		$17,490
: 710	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 16" Color)			$13,965
: 

From the May 1992 HP 9000/400 & 700 series catalog:
425e	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 16" EVRX Color) A2136A	$10,990
425t	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 19" VRX Color)  A2164A	$16,690
425t	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 19" CRX Color)  A2166A	$17,490
705	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 16" Color) A2648A+AMK	$11,390
710	(HP-UX, 16/420 MB, 16" Color) A2211A    	$13,965


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