HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico E de Vries)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Re: New PKZIP expected to ship week of Jan 4 1993
Date: 24 Dec 92 13:28:53 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

(Timo Salmi) writes:
>(Greg Flint) writes:

>>I just logged off the PKWARE BBS where I read a message dated 23 Dec 92
>>that repeated that the new PKZIP was in final beta, but then added that
>>PKWARE expected to start shipping the week of 4 Jan 93.  This is the smallest

>I just don't believe it.  (Pun intended, and only joking!)
>What will we then use for vaporware.  Waaaaaaaaaah!

There will always be vaporware. Sometimes by accident (because of underestimated
problems etc) sometimes to keep market share. Releasing nice looking beta's
(e.g. PKZIP 1.93a, Windows NT etc) can be part of that strategy. On the other
hand PKWARE has obviously not chosen to release a bug ridden quick released
program, I expect the new PKZIP to have great quality. On the other hand 
I expect ARJ 3.0 to be even better. And only then we will see if PKWARE
can keep its position also in the long term.

>   All the best, Timo

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To get (many) ==> LOSSLESS DATA COMPRESSION SOURCES <== get lds_10.zip at 
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From: eric@cse.fau.edu (Eric L. Thav)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Re: Pkzip 3.05 is on my PC working
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:19:14 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <669@forum.sublink.org> work@forum.sublink.org (Andrea Gozzi) writes:
>Yes, today one of my friend downloaded a pkzip 3.05 package.

>Don't think anyone would make a hack with such spec. 

You wouldn't begin to believe how people would hack programs.  And, in this
case, it is a hack -- whether you choose to believe it or not.  The way to
find out is to check the docs for the address for PKWARE.  In "3.05" it says
that PKWARE is located in Glendale, Wisconsin.  PKWARE moved quite some time
ago and they are actually located in Brown Deer, Wisconsin.  Also, if you
look at the list of new features, there are two features with the same
number, such as "6.".

>To me it is a PKWARE real product.

It's not, believe me.  And, Santa Claus isn't real either, sorry to say.

-- 
signature not found, format hard disk instead? (Y/N)_
Eric L. Thav               Florida Atlantic University - Boca Raton, FL
INTERNET: eric@cse.fau.edu       GEnie: E.THAV | Florida Marlins - 1993
FIDONET: 1:369/68.1           PRODIGY: HKHF18A |  World Series Champs!
Newsgroups: comp.compression
From: gene@aee.aee.com (Gene Kochanowsky)
Subject: Public Domain JPEG for Sparc .... ?
Summary: Looking for public domain version of JPEG for the Sparc
Keywords: JPEG Sparc 
Reply-To: gene@aee.aee.com
Organization: Associated Electronic Engineers
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:35:54 GMT

(Seasons) Greetings,

	Does anyone know of a public domain JPEG for the Sparc available
through Anon FTP??

Gene Kochanowsky
-- 
Gene Kochanowsky                           | "And remember ....
Associated Electronic Engineers, Inc.      |       The better you look ... 
(904)893-6741 Voice, (904)893-2758 Fax     |       the more you will see."
gene@aee.com                               |               Miss Lidia
From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico E de Vries)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Re: New PKZIP expected to ship week of Jan 4 1993
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:54:37 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

(Timothy Murphy) writes:
>(Greg Flint) writes:

>>I just logged off the PKWARE BBS where I read a message dated 23 Dec 92
>>that repeated that the new PKZIP was in final beta, but then added that
>>PKWARE expected to start shipping the week of 4 Jan 93.  

>Are PKZIP/PKUNZIP compatible with ZIP/UNZIP?

According to PKWARE PKZIP 2.0 is upwards compatible with ZIP/UNZIP 1.9. In
a week or two we will know for sure.

>Why do we have all these compression programs?
>In my experience the difference between them is marginal.

Why are there 1001+ word processors, spreadsheets, databases, operating
systems etc? Competition is the magic word. MS-DOS only got a real
improvement after the Digital Research DOS release. Many improvements
in PKZIP have been derived from LHarc, LHA and ARJ (whose improvements
hev been derived from PKZIP too). And of cause they all try to do
better than the rest. 

>The trouble caused by the multiplicity of programs
>vastly outweighs -- IMHO - any advantage gained
>by minuscule improvements in compression.

PKZIP 1.10 has been around very long. Only now PKZIP 2.0 arives. ARJ has
had more updates but those have been downwards AND upwards compatible with
older versions (proves the quality of the design BTW). ARJ 3.0 will be
the first major release of ARJ with new technology not downwards compatible
but I understood ARJ 2.40 WILL be capable of decompressing ARJ 3.0 files.

>Please don't produce any more programs!
>There is absolutely no need for them.

Well I am working very hard on yet another one and so are many others :-)
It is you privilige as customer to profit from them but also to ignore
them. I personally think competition and improvement are very important
components for a healty software industry.

>Timothy Murphy  

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To get (many) ==> LOSSLESS DATA COMPRESSION SOURCES <== get lds_10.zip at 
garbo.uwasa.fi /pc/programming. Make files for Borland C are included. 
Newsgroups: comp.compression,comp.ai.philosophy
From: long@next1.acme.ucf.edu (Richard Long)
Subject: Re: Compressing decimal expansion of pi (was Re: PI)
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:00:30 GMT

In article <C03vCz.78v@iat.holonet.net> ken@iat.holonet.net (Ken Easlon)  
writes:
> I think the exact objects resulting from such REAL compression would  
depend
> on who would be using the final compressed file.   There's a lot of  
stuff
> in the background that's just noise to most people, but what's noise to  
one
> person might be a vital piece of data to another.
> 
> Even if the data compression program were especially written for me,
> there's a lot of things I might once have been interested in, but that  
are
> just noise at the present.
Of course, you are using 'noise' in this context to mean previously  
categorized (compressed) information that is not of current interest,  
rather than true incompressible noise.  If you were actually getting  
literal noise in your visual or auditory senses, I suggest that you would  
find that most distressing and of great 'interest'.  
	To make a related point, I submit that whenever we have succeeded  
in fully compressing (understanding?) our environment, then everything is  
fully predictable, and the accompanying emotion is BOREDOM.  In fact, we  
only become interested in objects/events when they are novel or  
problematic, i.e., when they are yet-to-be-compressed portions of our  
environment.  

> 
> I would suggest that the ultimate compression would result in a file
> exactly one bit long (She loves me, she loves me not. Should I or  
shouldn't
> I), but the bit only has meaning for a particular question (or decision,  
or
> program branch).
In that case, your one bit only has meaning in the context of the question  
'does she love me?' etc., in the same way that a pink pixel is only part  
of a nipple in the context of a breast.  The fact that she loves you is  
not compressible to a bit except by concatenating the question to it in a  
directed way.

> 
> >.. the task of creating an intelligent machine may be nothing more than
> >creating a universal data compressor.
> 
> If the sole function of intelligence were to answer questions, I would
> agree.  However, I think intelligence requires not only answering
> questions, but ultimately doing something with the answers, like  
surviving,
> growing, evolving, etc.
Insects can do all of these things with no intelligence whatsoever (I'm  
ready to argue about whether insects have intelligence, if you are  
compelled to do so).  My view is that intelligence is required to give  
meaning to the environment.  VALUE, on the other hand, is a different  
matter.  This is where emotion comes in.  Of course, meaning can and does  
have a value in and of itself, but this is a question of  
emotional/cognitive interaction, and is left as an exercise for the reader  
:).


--
Richard Long
Institute for Simulation and Training
University of Central Florida
12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826
(407)658-5026, FAX: (407)658-5059
long@acme.ucf.edu
From: pteich@cayman.amd.com (Paul Teich)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Re: J/MPEG Chips question...
Keywords: JPEG MPEG Px64 H.261
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:54:16 GMT
Reply-To: pteich@cayman.amd.com (Paul Teich)
Followup-To: comp.compression
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX

In article <34390002@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> cadams@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Adams) writes:
| Companies in the JPEG/MPEG/Px64 chip business
| 
| Cypress might have something coming

The last I heard was that the Cypress group had no funding and was hemorrhaging
talent.  For what it's worth,
--
Paul R. Teich                          pteich@cayman.AMD.COM
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.           Direct 1-512-462-4268
5900 E. Ben White Blvd., MS 561        WATS   1-800-538-8450 x54268
Austin, Texas  78741                   FAX    1-512-462-4756

Though I posted from AMD, the information contained herein is mine and mine
alone!
===============================================================================
Religion loses its meaning as soon as it's explained.
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Re: New PKZIP expected to ship week of Jan 4 1993
Date: 24 Dec 1992 22:51:10 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu


Timothy Murphy pleads:

>> Are PKZIP/PKUNZIP compatible with ZIP/UNZIP?
>> Why do we have all these compression programs?
...
>> Please don't produce any more programs!
>> There is absolutely no need for them.

Oh, ok.  Clearly they're not wanted, so we'll stop.

mark
Newsgroups: comp.compression
From: mcs66@cas.org (Peg Steensland)
Subject: need copy of Magic by Parsons
Reply-To: mcs66@cas.org
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:59:56 GMT


Anyone having a copy of Parson's Technology
(Iowa comapny) compression program called
Magic, I woold like to obtain a copy.  Mine
disappeared along with my MFM drive that
failed last summer.

I called them and they no longer support it.

Thanks.

Peg Steensland
Newsgroups: comp.compression
From: Mischa_Sandberg@mindlink.bc.ca (Mischa Sandberg)
Subject: Re: SuperCompression?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:25:45 GMT

I don't know about 30:1 for text information, but I can suggest a couple
of clues as to where they might be coming from; see:

"Source encoding using syntactic information source models",
R.D.Cameron, IEEE Txns on Info Theory Vol 34 No 4 July 1988
        Compression of pascal programs (what simpler grammar could you want?)
        The approach was to attack a compressible object as a structure
        from the top down, rather than as a stream of bytes with a
        uniform Markovian model.

"Shortening the OED: Experience with a grammar-defined database"
Blake, Bray and Tompa (U. of Waterloo), ACM Txns on Info Systems, Vol 10
No 3 July 1992.
        A practical attack on natural language objects with a limited
        (for natual language) grammar. Awesome real results.
--
Mischa Sandberg ... Mischa_Sandberg@mindlink.bc.ca
                 or uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Mischa_Sandberg
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Engineers think equations are an approximation of reality.
Physicists think reality is an approximation of the equations.
Mathematicians never make the connection.
From: chinhsu@girtab.usc.edu (Chin-Chi Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: ImgFun 1.00
Date: 22 Dec 1992 04:42:15 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Hi folks!
 
   I have uploaded the imgfun 1.00 to the simtl20( 192.88.110.20) site.
 
IFSE100.ZIP:  ImgFun 1.0. ImgFun is a  powerful image
compression  and enhancement  program for  computer  images.
 
1. Instant ZOOM images upto 4 times in width and height.
   Reverse   and   mirror images  instantly. Explore pleasures of viewing
   images in the awesome  eye catching SVGA modes up to 1024x 768!!
2. Adjust colors,  background, and cut area of color mapped images.
   These functions are performed ALL INSTANTLY.
3. Super fast JPEG compression and decompression for GIFs.
   REDUCE IMAGE FILES TO A FRACTION ONLY!!! SAVE YOURE DISK SPACE!!!
4. Convert between, GIF ,BMP, PCX, and JPG formats.
5. Smooth, sharpen and rescale color mapped images directly.
6. Lean and fast!! REQUIREMENTS: 286, VGA or SVGA
 
BEST GIF COMPANION!!! TRY TO BELIEVE IT!!!
produced by member of Assocation of ShareWare Professionals
 
Instructions for download from simtel
 
1. Type 'ftp 192.88.110.20' Enter
2. User ID: anonymous, Password: your email address
3. Type 'binary' Enter
4. Type 'cd pd1:<msdos.graphics>' Enter
5. Type 'get ifse100.zip' Enter
 
If you have any question, send email to
 
chinhsu@zsazsa.usc.edu
 
Thanks!
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Re: Just the FAQs, Please : -)
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:58:06 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <1992Dec29.172418.17885@alw.nih.gov> sweeney@helix.nih.gov (Nina Sweeney) writes:
>I can't find part 2 of the FAQ for this newsgroup.  I see that I'm not 
>alone...can you post it again ?  Thanks!

An alternative:

  47206 Nov 27 16:14 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/doc-net/faqc9212.zip

"If you do not know how to go about getting this material, users are
welcome to email me for the prerecorded garbo.uwasa.fi instructions
(long, circa 29Kb).  North American users are referred to the Garbo
mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  Australian users are referred to the
archie.au mirror.  For the Asian users there is the NCTUCCCA.edu.tw
mirror.  The mirrors may lag occasionally, or might not have all the
files.  If you do not receive my reply within five days, please ask
your own site's system manager to construct a returnable mail path
for you". 

..................................................................
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From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico E de Vries)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Re: What's the differents between PKZIP & UNZIP ?
Keywords: pkzip
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:22:27 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

In <GUEST.3.0@SCC-TERM1> GUEST@SCC-TERM1 (Guest) writes:


>Hi all !
> Anyone please tell me what's the differents between PKZIP & UNZIP.
>                                    

PKZIP is a program to compress a collection of files into a single
file, an archive. PKUNZIP extracts file from this archive (decompresses
them).

Locating the comp.compression ==> FAQ <== :
 * The FAQ is posted often to comp.compression and should also be available
   on news.answers as "comp.compression Frequently Asked Questions".
 * The FAQ is also available by anonymous ftp on rtfm.mit.edu [18.72.1.58]
   in directory /pub/usenet/news.answers/compression-faq, files part1 and part2.
 * If you don't have FTP access, you can get the FAQ by a mail
   server.  Send an email message to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu
   containing the command "help" (no quotes) for more information.
 * If all above REALLY fails, request the files from nevries@cc.ruu.nl
Locating the archiver ==> FAQ <==
  garbo.uwasa.fi /pc/doc-net/faqc9211.zip contains information about archivers
  and how to get them. (9211 date might change)
Locating lossless data compression ==> SOURCES <== :
  garbo.uwasa.fi /pc/programming/lds_10.zip contains most known sources
  for lossless data compression.

>                                                Carlos Shyu

>                                         E-mail : u224267@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw

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Newsgroups: comp.compression
From: sweeney@helix.nih.gov (Nina Sweeney)
Subject: Re: Just the FAQs, Please : -)
Organization: NIH
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:24:18 GMT

I can't find part 2 of the FAQ for this newsgroup.  I see that I'm not 
alone...can you post it again ?  Thanks!

Nina Sweeney
sweeney@helix.nih.gov
NIH/Medical Neurology Branch
301-402-1546


In article <1992Dec22.214611.2747@BofA.com>, phil@BofA.com (Phil Schlesinger) writes:
> 
> 
> Will someone please email me part (2/2) of the FAQ for
> this newsgroup?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
Newsgroups: comp.compression
From: sean@sun-3.cs.uct.ac.za (Sean McLeod)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hardware JPEG boards for ISA/EISA BUS computers
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 06:50:06 GMT
Organization: University of Cape Town
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


Hi

I'm also looking for the same information, although only for ISA motherboards.
I would appreciate it very much if you could forward any mail that you receive.

I managed to get hold of the Picture Packer card, but it was SO SLOW, not that
much faster than JPEG done in software. It didn't come with hardware 
quantization either, so this also slowed things down since windows was having
to do the quantization for the bitblt!!

If you can, please include the price, performance and features(e.g does it come
with hardware quantization) and whether it comes with a DLL or some sort of 
support for programming(NB programming api, NOT a windows program that acts like
wingif etc, I need to call the card from my code to do the decompression) 
under windows. Please indicate whether the SDK costs extra(and if so how much)
or whether it is bundled with the card like the Picture Packer card. 

Basically I'm looking for the cheapest JPEG card that comes with a SDK and which
will do the decompression in under a second.

Thanks
sean@sun-3.cs.uct.ac.za
From: mdonovan@panix.com (Michael Donovan)
Newsgroups: comp.compression
Subject: Compressor Engine (was: Re: Compressing decimal expansion of pi)
Summary: Writing a portable [de]compressor in a virtual machine
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:25:50 GMT
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC

>In article <1992Dec23.201005.18142@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>>Archivers starting with ARC used to
>>try several compression algorithms and use the one best suited to the
>>data. And they got better compression than any of the existing programs.
>>[...]
>>  You could take the analogy to the point of called a compressed file a
>>program which executes on a pseudo-machine called an expandor, who's
>>output is the unique original file. 

Has this been done? I don't mean for custom, special-purpose things like
generating Pi, but in general? If a compressor/expandor set were written
using some sort of pseudo-code within a general-purpose archive program,
then collections of files could be compressed with the latest compression,
and distributed with the needed pseudo-code, and still be usable on any
platform! The pseudo-code could be stored in the same archive, using a
guaranteed-known compression method (like zip 1.9's), and the archive
program could automatically add the code to it's library, possibly after
compiling it to native code!

Theoretically, this would be the last archive program you'd ever need!

-- 
Mike Donovan             mdonovan@panix.com
"These opinions are mine!  Mine mine mine!"
Newsgroups: comp.compression
From: revtek@world.std.com (Jacques A Vanschouwen)
Subject: PowerDrive available for Sun workstations
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:14:14 GMT


Revolution Technologies First To Unveil Transparent Low Cost
Disk Compression Software For SPARCr Workstation Users.

NATICK, Mass. -- January 4, 1993 -- Revolution Technologies (tm) today
introduced PowerDriveTM, a software product designed to transparently
increase the file storage capacity of SPARC workstations and servers.
With PowerDrive, users can store more files and applications at much
lower cost than purchasing additional disk drives.

+ DOUBLES DISK DRIVE STORAGE CAPACITY 

The PowerDrive product is intended for users who want to store additional
applications and files on their workstations than would typically fit.
With PowerDrive, files are compressed to 50% of their original size on
average. This significant reduction virtually doubles the drive's storage
capacity.

+ EASY INSTALLATION IN MINUTES

The PowerDrive software installs in minutes and allows the user to
immediately take advantage of the additional disk space. During
PowerDrive installation, existing files on the system are compressed
into the PowerDrive format -- making more room to store new files.
When a file bearing the PowerDrive format is accessed, it is
transparently decompressed for use by the user.  The PowerDrive
software is fully configurable and works easily with all file types
including text files, object files, and executables.

+ IMMEDIATE AVAILABILITY

PowerDrive is available now for the Solaris 1.0 (SunOS 4.1.x) operating
system.  A version for Solaris 2.x will be available in March, 1993.
Revolution Technologies is offering a special introductory price of $99
until March 31, 1993. PowerDrive is available via anonymous FTP at
world.std.COM (192.74.137.5) in the directory pub/revtek.  Download
files powerdrive.tar and powerdrive.README.

PowerDrive can also be ordered by calling Revolution Technologies at
(508) 650-1490 or by sending a FAX request to (508) 655-8860.

Users can try out PowerDrive at no cost for 30 days by obtaining a demo
license from Revolution Technologies.

Revolution Technologies and PowerDrive are trademarks of Revolution
Technologies.  SPARC is a registered trademark of SPARC International, Inc.



Newsgroups: comp.compression
From: phil@BofA.com (Phil Schlesinger)
Subject: Just the FAQs, Please :-)
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 21:46:11 GMT


Will someone please email me part (2/2) of the FAQ for
this newsgroup?

Thanks!