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From: brad@ravel.udel.edu (Brad Cain)
Subject: HP/MODEM ->Overflow
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:36:13 GMT

I posted a few days ago about hooking a HP to a modem.  Today, i went
and got the necessary adapters, and hooked it all up.

I am using program vt52 from seq.uncwil.edu from the
directory  hp48/comp.sources.hp48/volume07

This program seems to work fine, except that after i connect to
another computer, many of the characters are missing.  It seems
like the modem is sending the characters too fast to the HP.
I changed the Xon/Xoff settings in IOPAR.  Still no help.

I'm dialing in at 1200 baud.
My IOPAR string is  {1200 2 1 1 1 0}
I'm using an Intel 2400e modem.
(The modem responds fine to all of my commands, and receives all
 keystrokes... all messages are sent fine to the HP display (CARRIER
DETECT, OK, etc))

If there's a better term program, that will buffer the incoming
information, could someone point me there....

Any info would be greatly appreciated....

thanks
brad cain

brad@bach.udel.edu

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cain@snow-white.ee.udel.edu    University of Delaware Electrical Engineering
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From: cokin@phakt.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Building a cable, and problems with recovering memory
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:53:07 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


I just got my 48sx a couple days ago.  I want to hook it up to my mac, but
I can't see paying $30 for a piece of wire.  I already have fashioned a jack
to plug into the HP, and finding one to go to my modem/printer port should
be no problem.  But could someone save me from trying 3024 combinations and
tell me what wire goes to what wire?  I saw the HP pin diagram in the FAQ,
but was unable to locate the corresponding mac diagram.  I'd also like
any info on connecting it to a modem.  I heard this is possible, but my
modem has only 2 wires, and the HP 4.  If you buy the $50 kit you get a cable
and software.  Is the software just for kermit transfers I can do with 
Microphone Pro (which I have), or is there some actual advantage to it?

I first bought a 48S, then I took it back for a 48SX after reading a bit of
the manual, and thought I might neet the slots someday.  With the 48S, holding
down ON-A-F would do a memory recovery, freeing up ram that failed to clear,
and to my surprise left my variables and stack intact.  It only took a few
seconds.  Then I tried it with the 48SX, and it hung.  After about 5 min with
"recovering memory" on the top of the screen, I tried doing ON-C to abort but
no dice.  It was totally frozen.  I took out the batteries, put them back
in, and the screen filled with garbage and the hourglass at the top of the
screen.  Totally hung.  I left the batteries out for 10 minutes, and then upon
replacing them it asked if I wanted to recover memory.  I said yes, and it
took about 10 seconds.  Over the next 2 days I recovered memory several times
with no problems, each time clearing a couple k.  I thought the first time
was just a fluke.  But it just happened again.  I have tried all the self
tests described in the manual, but it checks out fine.  The calculator works
fine otherwise.  BTW it's rom E.  Has anyone had similar problems?  Is it 
broken, or is there an easy fix.  Like an idiot I threw out the box and
reciept, so I'm screwed if I try to exchange it.  Hmm.. maybe I can make up
a story like it was a present....

Email, or post if of general interest.  I'll read it either way.  Thanks.

                                                          Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: Jake-S@cup.portal.com (Jake G Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Programmers Calculator?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 16:54:44 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <21JAN199314125523@pavo.concordia.ca> <74270@cup.portal.com>
  <1993Jan24.141419.6664@doug.cae.wisc.edu>

Joel Kolstad asks whether the 16C emulator library for the HP48 will handle
floating point numbers in all four bases. The basic functionality does not
handle them. but I do have RPL using the library functions which will do it.
Or, I should say, I have RPL which converts between decimal floating point
and floating point in any of the other bases. Adapting the arithmetic 
functions to handle them as well shouldn't be too difficult. I think we'll
have to include all that in the printed manual. The conversion runs fairly
quickly.

Jake Schwartz
From: badger@cs.arizona.edu (Brian S Badger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Rev. J difference, STRANGE!
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:37:41 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1jse6mINN6aq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni) writes:
>
>Yesterday, I evaluated this sum on an E and a J: 5*x^2*ln(x)/sin(x) as x
>goes from 1 to 100.  I got two very diffenrent answeres (-1700ish and
>19000ish).  
>What's goin' on?
>
>ali.  momeni@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu

I would say double check that the rad/deg modes on the two calculators are the
same.   :-)

Brian Badger
I HATE SMILEYS
From: gingell@aurs01.UUCP (Mike Gingell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: VCR+ codes
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:00:53 GMT
Reply-To: gingell@aurw6b.aur.alcatel.com.UUCP (Mike Gingell)
Organization: Alcatel Network Systems, Raleigh NC

In article <1993Jan20.214715.17151@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> carlsonn@spot.Colorado.EDU (CARLSON NEIL CHARLES) writes:
>Does anybody know how VCR+ works?  (VCR+ is the device in which you enter
>the 5 or 6 digit number from your TV guide and which automatically
>programs your VCR to record the show.)  More specifically, does anybody
>know how the date, time, and channel are encoded in the numbers which
>appear in many TV guides?  Sorry if this topic has already been discussed,
>but I thought it would be an interesting application of the IR remote
>control programs for the HP48.  Any info would be appreciated.
>

This subject has been discussed at length in sci.crypt and someone wrote
a C program to code & decode VCR+ codes. The only place I know it is
available from by ftp is black.ox.ac.uk in /scrc/vcr+.shar.Z

VCR+ was designed for people who can't figure out how to set the clock
on their VCR.  Rumor has it that 8 out of 10 can't do that, people even
tape over the clock to stop seeing it flashing.  Also VCR+ was designed
to make lots of money first by selling VCR+ remotes to the 8 out of 10
and second by sellling the codes to the TV guides & newspapers.  The
algorithm is jealously guarded by the VCR+ folks and stories have gone
around about how their legal eagles tried to stop dissemination of any
info about how to do it yourself.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
UUCP:       ...!mcnc!aurgate!aurfs1!gingell
Internet:   gingell%aurfs1%aurgate@mcnc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: bmury@engr.UVic.CA (Brian  Mury)
Subject: Re: My HP got SOAKED!
Reply-To: bmury@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:22:20 GMT

>Hope this is quick enough. I've been told the best way to dry electronics
>is to soak them in alcohol (the rubbing/denatured variety, not Vodka) by
           
Just don't smoke while doing this! :-) :-)
From: dcommins@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: My HP got SOAKED!
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:29:13 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

> Oh no, it flooded like crazy down here in southern Louisiana, USA, and
> my HP got soaked when my car was stranded in a flooded area.
> 
> I've dries it all I can, I thought I should wait until it was TOTALLY
> dry before I tried .... turning it on.  How long should I wait?  Is there hope
> my beloved HP48SX will still work?!

Hope this is quick enough. I've been told the best way to dry electronics
is to soak them in alcohol (the rubbing/denatured variety, not Vodka) by
imersing the entire unit. The alcohol will displace the water and will allow
more thorough drying but you should let it soak several minutes. Of course, you
should removed any power source before doing this. You can use a hair dryer on
LOW after you remove it from the alcohol. Also, to be safe, you might want to
test various parts of the calculator to make sure the alcohol won't effect the
plastic, although it shouldn't. Alcohol shouldn't effect the circuit board
either.


-----------------------------------------------------------                     
Drew Commins           Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.                       
dcommins@hayes.com     P.O. Box 105203                                          
CIS: 76067,2327        Atlanta, GA  30348                                       
                       404-840-9200                                             
-----------------------------------------------------------                     

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Programmers Calculator?
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:14:19 CST

In article <74270@cup.portal.com> Jake-S@cup.portal.com (Jake G Schwartz) writes:

[stuff deleted]

Jake -- does your emulator handle floating point numbers in the different
bases?  This is something I've yet to see in HP machines.

>It includes floppy disk, 4-color keyboard overlay and spiral-bound printed
>manual. We're hoping to sell it for $39.95. (That's five bucks cheaper
>than a 16C and manual from EduCalc.) A ROM card based version may come later
>in the Spring. 

I'd still prefer the real thing. :-)

>     Hey, if we sell a few dozen, I'll be happy :-)

You probably will.  Good luck!

						---Joel Kolstad
From: kevin@rodin.wustl.edu (Kevin Ruland)
Subject: Re: Simplex Library available.
Organization: Center for Optimization and Semantic Control, Washington University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:22:12 GMT

Yes I goofed again.  The correct LID for this is 1785 (#6F9h).  Please
disreguard all references to LID 1303.  (FYI LID 1303 is for StringWriter v3.0)

Sorry

K
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From: stevanc@castle.ed.ac.uk (Stevan Clee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy,comp.sys.m6809,sci.electronics
Subject: Dragon 32/64 ROMs
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:37:20 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

I need to find a set of Dragon 32 ROMS and I was wondering if anyone knew who
owns the copywrite to Dragon 32/64 ROMs or where I might get a set from.

Many Thanks in advance,

Stevan
(Stevan@ed.ac.uk)
Xref: sparky comp.sys.tandy:2093 triangle.forsale:2440 misc.forsale.computers.other:1761
From: kdb@work5 (Kurt Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy,triangle.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: Re: Tandy Model 100 System For Sale/Trade
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:34:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.tandy
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

OOPS.  My newsreader always puts an incorrect return address.  Please 
be sure to respond to the address below.
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From: un041111@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: ???OLD MODEL II PROBLEMS???
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:22:04 EST
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

You all are not going to believe this but someone I know is still operating
there company on a old Tandy Model II.  I rember back in 1979 when he bought
it.  It must be the fact the he paid $4500 for the 8.5meg hard drive disk unit
, this is why he is still using the system.  I can think of no other reason.
	Well,  his hard disk crashed the other day.  We tried to recover the
data, but I have no utilities for the trsdos.  Nor, do I have much knowledge of
how Radio Shack Machine work or save data.  I know that during there time these
machine were considerally popular.  This means that there must be some software
library out there somewhere.  I know that the chance of finding some 
kind of data recovery utilities is about as good as winning lotto America.  
But I had a extrabuck laying around and thought that I would take a chance.  

	The information that I have on the system is this.  It is a model II.
with TRSDOS II Version 4.1.  The hard drive is a 8 meg drive and there are also
a 3 bay disk unit.  The error that is occuring on the hard drive is error 4 CRC
error during disk i/o operation.   

	If I don't here from someone, I guess that we will just make it giant
paper weight.  I would leave my internet address, but I don't know how much
longer this account will be active.  I will just keep checking back in this
news group.

Peace
Jeff Wood...
From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: CPU's used in early Tandy's
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:02:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <C1Howz.nK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes...
>The TRS-80 I used the Z80 at ~1 Mhz, TRS-80 III used the Z80, but the 2.77
>Mhz model, and the TRS-80 Model IV use the 4 Mhz Z80A. What did the TRS-80
>Model II, 16, and 6000 use? Also, what was the original purpose of those
>three machines? (The Models I,III, and IV were mainly for home use. Were
>the Models II, 16, 6000 meant for business use, running networks, or what?)
>Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> 

The II, 16, and 6000 all used the 68000.  They were meant for business use.
You could buy all sorts of "business" hardware, such as a hard disk unit that
used 8" hard disks.

The Color Computers all used the 6809 or some variant (68B09).
The portables (Model 100, 102, 200) used a cmos 8085, the 600
used a cmos 8088.

David Anderson
From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: CPU's used in early Tandy's
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan28.154701.3255@crd.ge.com>, bownes@peterpan.crd.ge.com (Keptin Komrade Dr. Bobwrench III) writes...
>v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson):
>> In article <93027.095754RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>, RFM@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>>>>The II, 16, and 6000 all used the 68000.  They were meant for business use.
>> 8" floppy drives, I'm pretty sure.  The hard disk I was speaking of was called> the ProFile (I think).
>The original HD, was an 8Mb 8" disk, and it was called the 8Mb hard disk. 
>Profile was a database system that ran on the Model I, II, III, IV under trsdos, 
>If you don't know or are not sure...
>  bob
>-- 

I distinctly recall the hard drive subsystem that tandy sold had
a name.  And the original flavors were 5, 10, and 15 mb.  Profile,
in addition to the database program, was a hard disk sold by Apple
for their II series.

I guess I should just shut up and not spread information.  We all 
know that this is vitally important to the nation's future and
security.

David "I have been warned" Anderson
From: phillips@cs.ubc.ca (George Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: CPU's used in early Tandy's
Date: 28 Jan 1993 03:09:50 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: yukongold.cs.ubc.ca

In article <1993Jan27.212733.22256@crd.ge.com> bownes@peterpan.crd.ge.com (Keptin Komrade Dr. Bobwrench III) writes:
>From article <C1Howz.nK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, by kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist):
>> The TRS-80 I used the Z80 at ~1 Mhz, TRS-80 III used the Z80, but the 2.77
>> Mhz model, and the TRS-80 Model IV use the 4 Mhz Z80A.
>
>The model III was not exactly 2Mhz because of the video if I recall correctly.

Son of more than you Ever wanted to know about Model I/III's

According to the Model I technical manual, the Z-80 was clocked at
"a little over 1.774 MHz".  The Model III service manual says its
Z-80 was clocked at 2.02752 MHz.  Indeed, it got this by "dividing
the basic video clock (10.1376 MHz) by five."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:44:44 EST
From: <ACS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Coco 3 For Sale..

For Sale:

  Coco 3 - 128K expanded to (I think) 360K
  FD-500 Disk Drive Interface with two 5 1/4 inch drives

Rom Packs:
   Project Nebula
   Dungeons of Daggorath
   Color Logo (with Documentation)
   Thexder (also with documentation)

 Software:
    CocoMax3 -  a high end drawing program
    Koronis Rift - a graphic adventure
    Seastalker - text adventure
    Microscopic Mission - graphic adventure, similar to the movie
                                          Fanastic Voyage.
    Interbank Incident - graphic/problem solver
    Biosphere  -  save a poluted planet by putting life on them
    Flightsim  -  self explanatory
    Sands of Egypt  -  graphic adventure

 Misc. Hardware:
    Hi-Res mouse input converter for CoCoMax3
    One button mouse  (can you believe it still works?!!)
    Serial to parallel switch for conecting a standard printer
    Cassette hookup harness  (nearly useless I know)
    2 Free floating joysticks  (Exciting isn't it --NOT)
    Touch pad.

Also included are the books on basic, extended basic, and "dos"

I cannot guaranty that all the software works. Although I did try CocoMax3
which worked perfectly. All the rom packs worked as well as both disk
drives.

I would like to sell all this as a package deal, but will entertain
any offer. Please E-mail me if you have any questions or would like
to make an offer. I will re-post this ad once a week or so for no
longer than two months. Then sell to the highest bidder.
|o|________________________________________________________________|o|
|o| Andy C. Saylor               ::                                |o|
|o| Penn State University        :: E-Mail:   ACS110@PSUVM.PSU.EDU |o|
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|o| REAL Programmers don't use documentation.                      |o|
|o|   If it was hard to code it should be hard to read and damned  |o|
|o|   near impossible to modify!                                   |o|
|o|________________________________________________________________|o|
From: bownes@peterpan.crd.ge.com (Keptin Komrade Dr. Bobwrench III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: CPU's used in early Tandy's
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:47:01 GMT
Organization: School of Corrective Phrenology



v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson):
> In article <93027.095754RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>, RFM@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>>>The II, 16, and 6000 all used the 68000.  They were meant for business use.
>>I always thought the II used a Z80 chip also, but that the 16 and 6000
>>went the Motorola route. Am I mistaken?
> Yes, you're right.  I forgot that the II started out as Z-80.  All I really
> remembered was that it wasn't directly compatible with the I and that at some
> point it had a 68000 (as an upgrade option).  But all of those machines had
> 8" floppy drives, I'm pretty sure.  The hard disk I was speaking of was called> the ProFile (I think).
>
>>
>>BobM
>>>
>
> David Anderson

The original HD, was an 8Mb 8" disk, and it was called the 8Mb hard disk. 
Later HD's were 12,15,32 and 70Mb respectivly, built with 5 1/4" hard disks. 
 
Profile was a database system that ran on the Model I, II, III, IV under trsdos, 
and model 16/6000 under XENIX. 
  
If you don't know or are not sure...

  bob
-- 
Bob Bownes, aka iii - "Fork twice to avoid zombies"
Warning: This may contain opinions. They belong to me, not to Aule-Tek, 
Sun Microsystems, General Electric or anyone else. But you can rent them.
From: trier@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: CPU's used in early Tandy's
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:55:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu

In article <C1IK5H.Bv3@acsu.buffalo.edu> v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson) writes:
>The II, 16, and 6000 all used the 68000.  They were meant for business use.
>You could buy all sorts of "business" hardware, such as a hard disk unit that
>used 8" hard disks.

Now someone might shoot me, but I'm certain that's wrong.

The Model II used a Z-80.  It ran TRS-DOS or CP/M.

The Model 12 used a Z-80 and could be upgraded to include a Model 16-style
68000, giving (some people felt) a better Model 16 than the Model 16.  It
ran TRS-DOS in its Z-80 configuration and XENIX in the 68000 setup.

The Model 16 had a 68000 as a primary CPU (hence the name "Model _16_" --
it was a big deal to have a 16-bit CPU) but used a Z-80 as an I/O manager.
The Model 16 ran XENIX.

I'm not sure about the Model 6000.  It ran XENIX, but I don't remember
whether it used a 68000.  (I think I remember Tandy promoting a 286 Xenix
system for business, but I don't remember whether that was the 6000 or
just a box in the 1000/2000 line.)

All four were built for business use.  They were using 5.25" hard drives
by the time of the 6000.  The Model II used 8" floppies, though, which was
a sign of its business orientation.  (5.25" floppies were perceived as being
too unreliable and low-capacity for "serious use".)

-- 
Stephen Trier                      
Network software type              
Case Western Reserve University    
trier@ins.cwru.edu
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From: mark@alsvid.une.edu.au (Mark Garrett Internet: mark@arvak.une.edu.au Phone: +61 66 20 3859)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy,comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Wanted: Z80 emulator in VAX MACRO
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:54:15 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

From article <1993Jan21.021028.21916@funlwb.enet.dec.com>, by cameron@aussie.enet.dec.com (James Cameron):
> 
> I am looking for a Z80 emulator written in VAX MACRO.
> 
> I've already tried out two Z80/CPM emulators written in C that I found in
> the alt.sources archives, and I've found them to be defective in certain Z80
> specific instructions, and slow.

	Have I got a deal for you.

About 3 years ago I developed such a beast. I beleive that I debug the
code interpreter (maybe it still has a bug or two).
It would boot up to the point of a nice A> cpm prompt not much else worked.

	It loads and standard cpm hex file for booting. 

	It even does the undocument IX IY instructions for low and high
8bits.

	Cheers
		Mark :)

	Send me some mail if you wan't a copy.
-- 
Mark Garrett	Internet:  mark@arvak.une.edu.au	Phone: 	+61 66 20 3859
   University of New England, Northern Rivers, Lismore NSW Australia.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 20 Jan 1993 19:18:18 EST
From: <WOMENCTR@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Mouse for HX. Help Request.
 <bdm3.727516701@Ra.MsState.Edu>

Dewane,  What you are talking about is the old *color mouse*, intended to
plug into a joystick port on the CoCo.  Some software (old stuff) was
designed to work with this mouse or a Microsoft (serial) mouse on the 1000.
This was never a very popular setup and was soon discontinued by
software venders.  Thus, most mouse drivers will not service a color mouse.
From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: CPU's used in early Tandy's
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <93027.095754RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>, RFM@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>>The II, 16, and 6000 all used the 68000.  They were meant for business use.
>I always thought the II used a Z80 chip also, but that the 16 and 6000
>went the Motorola route. Am I mistaken?
Yes, you're right.  I forgot that the II started out as Z-80.  All I really 
remembered was that it wasn't directly compatible with the I and that at some
point it had a 68000 (as an upgrade option).  But all of those machines had
8" floppy drives, I'm pretty sure.  The hard disk I was speaking of was called
the ProFile (I think).

> 
>BobM
>>

David Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy