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From: memaso@uta.fi (Markku Sorto)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: CONSPIRACY!!!!!!
Keywords: metallica, beastie boys, lionel richie
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:15:39 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <29DE348E.22621@ics.uci.edu>, bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
> In article <5351@kielo.uta.fi> memaso@uta.fi (Markku Sorto) writes:
> >AAARGH! THEY are trying to take over! This must be CONSPIRACY!
> >There has been some postings about crap music like Lionel Richie, Beastie
> >Boys and some crappy metal bands. Soon, there will be more and MORE and
> >MORE!!!!! And then, where can we all go?!? AAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
>    HEY! Don't slam the Beasties.  What they put out now is a shitload
>    better than most faceless "alternative" (in DaveKendallese accent)
>    bands today.  There ARE Hip-hop fans on this board TOO you know.
                                                
Actually, the original posting was a JOKE! Didn't anybody notice the smileys?!
I couldn't care less about what other people listen to or post here!!!!!!!!!!!

Tumpa
From: v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE CAMPBELL)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: lyrics to "End of the World as We Know It" needed
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

anybody out there who could e-mail me the complete lyrics to R.E.M.'s "It's
The End Of The World As We Know It" i would be greatfully greatful, and 
indebted to.



thanx!!!        carpe diem!!!



                                                 /\_M_/\
Wayne Campbell                     a.k.a.       /MATTMAN\
(see, i don't just listen to metal!!)          //\/\ /\/\\
                                                    V
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From: lputnam@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lee P Putnam)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc,rec.music.gaffa,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: DESPERATELY WANTED: Live Sugarcubes recordings
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:11:19 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@cis.ohio-state.edu
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


In article <65567@apple.Apple.COM> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
>
>If anyone has any live sugarcubes tapes (especiall from the current tour)
>please PLEASE e-mail me!
>
>I am also interested in radio/tv interviews - anything!
>


As am I. So if you're emailing to this guy, send a copy to me too. Thanks.


>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Michael Graham       "Droppin' science like Galileo dropped the orange."


-lee (p). 


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: poep1399@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Poepping)
Subject: Re: Nettwerk and KMFDM
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:32:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.143340.335@news2.cis.umn.edu>, hoffman@n1.math.umn.edu (John R. Hoffman) writes:
|> 
|> There's no relation other than I have a question about both.
|> 
|> I know of the following bands on the Nettwerk Label, are there
|> any others?
|> 
|> Skinny Puppy
|> Consolidated
|> MC 900 ft Jesus
|> Severed Heads.
|> 
|> What is the real name for KMFDM?  I believe they're from Germany
|> and I'm positive Kill Mother Fucker Depeche Mode was made up by americans.
|> 
|> Thanks
|> 
|> JRH



  i forget the actual german words (or how to spell them anyway)
 but KMFDM  stands for:

			NO SYMPATHY FOR THE MAJORITY





				dj acidboy todd p
From: navarro@obvious.ncsu.edu (dave)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: re: new jane's addiction
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:50:29 GMT
Reply-To: navarro@obvious.ncsu.edu (dave)
Organization: North Carolina State University

** has anyone heard of perry ferril joining a new band?
** is it true or a viscious rumor?

last i heard,
perry farrell is forming a new band called 'porno for pyros' (?)

peace,

dave
From: ejlamb@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC JOSEPH LAMB)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Love & Rockets
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:29:07 GMT
Reply-To: ejlamb@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC JOSEPH LAMB)
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University

In reply to the Love & Missiles song:

Yes, It is Love & Rockets (the DJ was WRONG!)

The song is called Kundalini Express (sp?)

The album is called Express
	(it's a really good album)

Good luck and happy listening!




Eric Lamb             |\  "Funny thing about weekends when      /|
(ejlamb@eos.ncsu.edu) |/  you're unemployed: they don't mean    \|
North Carolina State  |\  quite so much; you just get to hang   /|
    University        |/  out with all your workin' friends..." \|
					Les Claypool, PRIMUS
From: bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: vancouver's subhumans
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:58:39 GMT
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario

In article <1992Mar27.234212.17392@descartes.waterloo.edu> dquesnel@leibniz.waterloo.edu (darc) writes:
|In article <ac.27@> ac@ (alka chandna) writes:
|>is anyone out there familiar with the vancouver band, subhumans (i don't 
|>mean the british subhumans)?  "slave to my dick" has been on several 
|>compilation albums, and more recently Gerry Hannah had an offering on the 
|>soundtrack to Terminal City Ricochet ("Living with the Lies").  Can anyone 
|>provide me with a discography, and more importantly, let me know how to get 
|>any of this stuff.  thank you.
|
|I think this subject has come up in rec.music.misc, but I just want to
|reiterate that a good starting point to the history of the Vancouver
|punk scene is the compilation "Last Call" from...  Well shoots isn't
|that weird, I can't at all remember the name of the label.  I've been
|having a lot of trouble in this area lately.  Let's see I know it's a
|Vancouver-local label, hmm...  Can anybody help me out there?
|
|Anyway, as well as the classic "Slave to My Dick" there are a number of
|Vancouver punk classics, chief among the "Have Not Been the Same".
|Highly recommended.


	Some of the Vancouver labels around 1980 were

		Friends Records
		Mo-Da-Mu Records
		Pinned Records


	Subhumans were on

	"Vancouver Complication"	Pinned			1979
	"Vancouver Independence"	Friends			1980

	and also on

	"Let them Eat Jellybeans"	Alternative Tentacles	1981


	and made this album

	"Incorrect Thoughts"		Friends			1980


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!lsuc!becker!bdb
 `\o\-e	 "James Brown, Mark Hosler, Al Jourgenson.
 _< /_	 			Coincidence or conspiracy?" - pashdown
From: menieuwp@cs.vu.nl (Nieuwpoort van ME)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: TMBG European tour dates?
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:56:14 GMT

Hi,

On the cover of TMBG' Apollo 19 CD it was mentioned that
TMBG will be doing a European tour.

Does anybody know when, where and where I can get tickets?

Any chance they'll be playing in the Netherlands??

Marc
menieuwp@cs.vu.nl
From: 891034d@ace.acadiau.ca (PETER F. DEARMAN)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Best Pogues? Most Erotic Alternative Music?
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:08:04 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


>2) What would be the most *erotic* alternative music I could find (note, I
>   don't mean "I fucked her brains out", I mean a little more erotic, a sexual
>   rhythm and lyrics, not just crude lyrics put to the same old shit. In other
>   words, I'm sort of looking for the alternative music equivalent of blues 
>   (yeah, that's it!)

I think Sonic Youth can get kinda sexy.  The last song on Sister is 
definately the most sexual thing I've ever heard.  Especially tripping.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: ksantosu@descartes.waterloo.edu (Bullwinkle J. Moose)
Subject: Re: when are the SUGARCUBES playing TORONTO?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:33:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.165547.10121@cs.dal.ca> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
>Does anyone know what date the cubes will be in Toronto?

Erm...yes, but I'm afraid it was last night (the 13th).  Hope you caught it...

It was a great show, for all you people wondering.  Played about 8 songs from
the latest, Regina and (I think) Tidal Wave from the second (no Eat the 
Menu :-( , and Birthday, Delicious Demon, Mama, Coldsweat, Blue Eyed Pop, and
Deus from the first.  No Motorcrash either :-(  They also did Motorcycle Mama,
and a very short song that I've never heard before.

Cheers

Kevin

"I'm not being unfair...okay, I am, but who cares?" -- The Wedding Present
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: please.Princeton.EDU!jcgoh (Justin C. Goh)
Subject: Re: Honey's Dead/The Jesus and Mary Chain (MiniReview)
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:51:40 GMT

The new album is nowhere near as good as their Psychocandy era work.  Granted,  
Honey's Dead is better than Automatic, but so is almost everything else.  Now,  
this may not be a fair criticism.  I mean, the Reids even admitted that they  
can never do anything better than PsychoCandy.  However, they will always be  
compared to their previous work (I believe the Pixies suffer from the same  
syndrome.).  In sum, the new album is OK, but Upside Down it is not.
From: bc27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brandon Chin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: RAVE INFO??????
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:22:37 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.alt.music.alternative: 15-Apr-92 Re: RAVE
INFO?????? by David Roe@cs.tcd.ie 
>In article <1992Apr15.043534.14737@cc.uow.edu.au>
mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (
>Bennett) writes:
>>cs318a36@ibmb3.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Molas) writes:
>>
>>Actually, there are not that many techno groups that have released much more
>>than a couple of singles...try Quadrophonia, T99 and especially Orbital, all
>                                                                 ^^^^^^^
> 
>Are these the same as The Orb? - the ones with the very long album that
>starts with "Little fluffy clouds" or something like that?

No, The Orb and Orbital are different groups.  Both bands are classified
by many people as techno.

By the way, for more on the rave scene and rave/techno music, I suggest
you take a peek at netnews.alt.rave

They talk about all the good stuff you seem to be looking for (like
nomadic parties etc.).

Check it out.

_Brandon
"Maybe I'll watch some TV . . . it'll help me to RELAX!!!!!!!!!!" -Ren Hoek.

____
bj+@cmu.edu
bc27@andrew.cmu.edu
From: hansencarlaa@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: I have been offended. . . .
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:24:21 GMT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Okay, this has been bugging me for some time now.

I've been offended.  It took me awahile to pinpoint my feelings, but here 
goes.

It all started, I beleive, when Oliver Stone's movie "The Doors" came out.
Then I mark it at R.E.M. and "Out of Time".  I see it most recently with
Nirvana (obviously) and The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Wayne's World, Bohemian 
Rhapsody, blah, blah, blah.

The very things, the very type of music I listen to, all of it.  All of 
the things the mainstream has mocked me for, pushed me aside because I was 
"weird", now embraces.  I feel violated, offended, morally raped.

Suddenly everyone wants to talk about that "cool Red Hot Chili Peppers song 
on MTV" with me, suddenly my "weird" is cool.  AAAAAACCCKKKK!!!!! I'm going 
to start wearing powder blue shaker sweaters, Hunt Club jeans and get a 
nice, neat "perm", just so I be weird again, the way I want it to be.

I heard someone say the other day "My friend was headbanging yesterday, 
just like they do in Wayne's World and it was sooooo funny, I just laughed, 
it was so (fucking--I added that!) hilarious."  Wait a minute, I headbang 
because it seems a natural thing to do to some music, let's get you out in 
the pit at the next goddammed Social Distortion concert, honey, we'll see 
how funny you think it is!!!!

People just don't get it, do they??

I'm reminded of a verse of a Cure song. . .

"Everyone else is jumpin' everyone else's train. . ."


I could go on and on, but maybe I've made my point.

_________________________________________________________________
||Carla Hansen||         Those who become of the living,        |
----------------           risk engaging in walks of the dead.
                                                -I said that
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From: williams8572@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.synth,alt.rave
Subject: lid11 - black industrial diamonds
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:35:31 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hello,
   I have had a little trouble getting through to some of the people that were
interested in purchasing the lid11 demo "black industrial diamonds" so I
thought I would post again and hope they get it this way.  If you were one of
the many people who responded to me with interest in purchasing it, please
emial again with a new address so we can get set up.  Of course if you HAVE
received a message in the past few days concerning the purchase of the demo,
then go on to the next posting.   I hate to waste people's time. 
   By the way, anyone else who is interested in getting the demo, reply to me. 
It is 60 minutes of weirdly sampled industrial nightmares that will kick you
right in the ass. Kind of like a cross between Skinny Puppy and ABBA.   All
kidding aside,  the sound quality is excellent since the tape was produced
entirely on adrenachrome.  Reply to me and we will set something up.  Oh yeah, 
did I mention it was cheap?  lid11 is a nonprofit organization.  Thank you and 
good luck with that thing you are doing.  You know, THAT thing.  Didn't think I
knew about it did you?  We all know.


-- 

******lid11 - Black Industrial Diamonds demo.  Reply to me if interested.******
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.radio.noncomm
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Alternative radio stations
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:28:33 GMT

I wrote:

>-" And so at what level do you recognize a station's format?  Show?  Song?
>-" Riff?  Chord?

Milo:

>	Yes. Yes. Yes.  Yes.

Really?  Do you prefer the Bm7 format to the 4/4 blues shuffle format?

We're still wondering whether you stand by your claim that all programmers
are format-bound and how you would identify the format of, say, a Pacifica
station or one of the more adventurous college stations, say, WFMU, KFJC,
KAOS, or KZSU.

And appropos of all that, we're still waiting on those references to the
*real* articles on College Radio Theory.

-- Clay
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: fs8j@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Fraser Street)
Subject: Re: Paleface
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:23:59 GMT

I've had the misfortune of seeing paleface in the flesh, as it were.
He's on the road right now opening for the Judy Bats.

Paleface sood on the stage with an acoustic guitar and screemed into
the microphone for apx. 45 minutes.  It was certainly one of the least
impressive live performances by a "musician" that I have ever witnessed.

I don't enjoy recounting the experience, but if anyone wants more details
about Paleface live you may mail me directly.

-- 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fraser Street
fs8j@Virginia.EDU
University of Virginia
Department of Computer Science

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: arebold@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: boston bands
Organization: Clark University
Date: 8 APR 92 20:53:35 GMT

Hey, why forget to mention the Mighty Mighty Bosstones?
                                                   Bloodbath
From: Lawrence.A.Kim@dartmouth.edu (Lawrence A. Kim)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: GIFs wanted!
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:58:56 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Does anyone have any GIFs of Lush, Ride, My Bloody Valentine, Curve, or
the Pixies? PLEASE e-mail them to me if you have any, or tell me if
there's an FTP site where I can retrieve them from.

Thanks!

Lawrence.A.Kim@Dartmouth
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets & XTC
Summary: Separated at birth?
Keywords: L&R  XTC
Organization: Sun Microsystems - JPL on-site Software Support
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:01:53 GMT

In article <29E35B12.29114@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.142635.4628@cs.tcd.ie> droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe) writes:
>>I've heard of the band Love n' Rockets, and heard some stuff. However, a
>>long time ago (about six to seven years) I taped a song from the radio,
>>ostensibly buy a band called Loven n' Missiles. The D.J.s voice over is
>
>   Well, this MUST be the 1347th reply, but
>     it IS Love and Rockets with "The Kundalini Express"
>        off the _Love_Express_ album from 1986,
>            or is it _The_Big_Express_ ?
>
>     (I must be getting confused with XTC's _The_Big_Express_)

Nah, you're just getting confused by the fact that the by-far-best-ever
Love and Rockets song "Dog End of a Day Gone By" (or whatever it's called)
is rhythmically identical to XTC's "Making Plans For Nigel"	(-:

Love and Rockets / XTC - Separated at birth?

-- 
	- Greg Earle			| Disclaimer: I would be just as
	  Sun Los Angeles		| mortified if Sun thought I was
	  JPL on-site Software Support	| speaking for the company as Sun is at
	  earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV	| the thought of me speaking for it.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cs201329@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs201329)
Subject: other alt.groups (was Re: Gothic Music, Sisters... Alt.Gothic.)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:00:03 GMT

In article <mcdonghj.702809820@unix2.tcd.ie> mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....) writes:
>I must admit that I get annoyed 'occasionally'
>to see posts that should have been to alt.gothic regarding bands of 

>Sisters, Neph, Bauhaus etc..
>Please remember there is a newsgroup specially for these bands.

Gothic or not, it still falls in the vast realm of "alternative"
 music, so it's discussable here.  Some possibilities to consider,
 though:

1) amend the alt.m.alt charter to specifically exclude music
 that fits in another alt.group.  This would cover Gothic,
 Industrial, Rap, "Exotic", and Oracle-knows-what-else.  This
 would also be extremely unfriendly (IMHO).

2) encourage everyone to bring their conversations here, thus
 sucking the life out of those fuckers over at Industrial +
 Gothic, causing them to spit bloody bile as we rip the flesh
 from their quivering carcasses...  At which point, we'll need
 to create alt.gwar (or alt.music.gwar, alt.fan.gwar + alt.
 placate.gwar.or.die).

Francis A. Uy
cs201329@umbc5.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: remyh@cco.caltech.edu (Remy Adam Hathaway)
Subject: Re: THE SWANS
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 21:40:04 GMT

smv3@po.CWRU.Edu (Sean M. Vadas) writes:


>i am trying to find a maxi-single by the Swans called
>Love Will Tear Us Apart.  SO far i've had no luck.
>Can anyone tell me if this was ever on an album, and
>if so, which one?

	I don't know about the Swans, but I know Joy Division (and subsequently
New Order) did the song (on Substance, I don't know what else, Substance is a
compilation album).  I don't know if it's a cover, but it's a great song.

					remyh@cco.caltech.edu
From: zeppelin@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: Mail Order Music
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:26:40 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


	As far as CD's go you might try Noteworthy Music in NH...I get alot
of stuff from there....its toll free and fast (within 5 days to Canada)... they
have pretty well everything you would want....

		Ph: 1 800 648 7972 for a free catalogue...


				pete
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: earn@juliet.caltech.edu (Primordial Eric)
Subject: Re: Robert Smith = Sandman???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:43:00 GMT

In article <92106.102253TXG108@psuvm.psu.edu>, TXG108@psuvm.psu.edu (Tina Goetzl) writes...
> 
>    Is anyone familiar with the DC comic "SANDMAN"?  If so, do you find
>a striking resemblence between Dream and our hero Robert Smith???  In one
>of the issues, there is the "Boy's Don't Cry" poster on one of the walls
>which was a nice touch I thought.  I think Dream and Rob both share that
>quality of being appealingly somber.

>                                                            tina
   Well, given they're both really pale with puffy black hairdos - but
 Morpheus is as thin as a rail and Robert Smith is a big fat guy.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: reynhout@cs.uri.edu
Subject: Re: 10,000 Maniacs
Organization: University of Rhode Island, Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:59:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.123946.5986@cs.cornell.edu> turney@cs.cornell.edu (Jenn Turney) writes:
>10,000 Maniacs are performing here this coming weekend, which makes me
>curious as to whether they're working on anything new.  It's been

   10k Maniacs are doing about ten dates, starting in NY and ending on
Earth Day.  Then they go into the studio to record a new album.  When they
perform normal shows (probably not on Earth Day,) they do a lot of new
material.  I liked it a lot.  Natalie seems to be very happy about something.

   Andrew
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jazzman@jazzman.vnet.ibm.com (j. man )
Subject: Re: Pixies - Surfer Rosa : You f-ing die!
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:28:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: jazzman@jazzman.vnet.ibm.com (j. man )
Organization: IBM East Fishkill

In article <1992Mar23.175006@voyager.jsc.nasa.gov>,
shirley@voyager.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Shirley [CSC]) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Mar20.193404.22425@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola) writes:
> > In article <1992Mar20.174237.23420@midway.uchicago.edu>
nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> > >I'm wondering, WHAT are the Pixies talking about there? They talk about
> > >cheerleaders, and things, and so on, also. I'm also pretty sure that the
> > >words at the beginning of ? are "You fucking die"- 
> > 
i've just strated reading this group, and someone might have suggested
this before, but........i always wondered whether francis was borrowing
from the movie "stripes" when he "finishes her (kim's) line."  i don't
remember for sure, but i think the character who flipped out and threatened
to kill anyone who touched his stuff was named francis.  but this is 
getting really far off track so i'll just shut up now.

-jb in fishkill

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative