From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Subject: New group proposal
Followup-To: alt.config
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Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:08:00 GMT

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alt.rock-n-roll.classic (originally proposed October 1990)
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This is a group that I've proposed to here three times before, but was
never put into place due to my aforementioned lack of time to follow-up
on the proposals I made.  This newsgroup would be for discussing classic
rock, both as a separate genre of music and as a marketing concept for
radio and album sales.  Undoubtedly, everyone's definition of classic
rock is different, but my persoal definition of such would be any album-
oriented rock 'n roll recorded between 1967 and 1982.  Either discussing
the music and artists involved itself, or discussing the packaging of
the music in the 1990's is fair game in this group.

In addition to this group being proposed to here before in alt.config,
the idea of a classic rock newsgroup was proposed by someone else before
as a mainstream group in news.groups.  I participated in that thread,
lending my views, but the proposal didn't go anywhere in there.  Being
that items which are rejected from the mainstream, but still have merit
for discussion, can and should be accomodated in alt.*, I would offer my
recommendation for this group to be placed in alt.*.  In addition, the 
nature and volume of traffic in alt.rock-n-roll at various times related 
to "classic rock" (to the greater degree, in terms of the music itself,
and to the lesser degree, the marketing of it) has given me indications 
that there is a justification for this group.

alt.rock-n-roll.symphonic (originally proposed April 1992)
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As originally proposed, this group would be for discussion of rock 'n
roll music that contains influences from classical and/or operatic
music.  Well, by and large, that concept has found a home in
alt.music.progressive.  If you recall the discussion, I proposed
a.r-n-r.s, didn't do anything about it for a while, then Scott McMahan
proposed a.m.r, acknowledging that he didn't read my proposal, and
because he had the time to deal with it and I didn't (yeah, I know
you're probably sick and tired of hearing this from me, but it's the
truth - let's face it, folks, Usenet is far from a full-time endeavor
for me and many of you are probably in like situations), his group went
through.  So, given that my idea is already serving it's purpose in
another group, I would like to propose an alternative purpose for this
group.  The new purpose of alt.rock-n-roll.symphonic would be strictly
to discuss the specific relationship between rock 'n roll music and
classical and/or operatic music.  This group would probably not generate
a high amount of traffic, but it would be my hope that regardless of the
level of traffic, it would be very high in the S/N ratio department. 
From what I gather, a.m.p is dedicated to general discussion of the
artists involved in making this sort of music.  Perhaps Scott can inform
us if discussion such as I have proposed for this group has taken place
in a.m.r or if it is welcome in there.

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