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From: Todd_Major@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Todd Major)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: WOA seminars
Date: 22 Aug 92 05:21:11 GMT
Organization: The Village BBS

I was reading the Genie starship newsletter and here are some interesting
seminars:

Friday Sept 11

GVP's ImpactVision
GVP in communication (Phone Pak I guess)
DTV
Gold Disk DTP (send them a Style Guide)
keynote
AmigaVision 3.0 (yes that is 3.0)
Commodore New product overview
AmigaDos 2.1 (it's official)

also on the other days, there in Scala, Sunrize, Centaur (OpalVision), and
animation seminars.  Hopefully we will see some new Amigas in that
new product overview.

     Todd Major

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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 020 vs 030
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:59:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug19.225926.962
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Not really. For the most part, the accelerators without an MMU are
 > usuing the EC030, which is just a normal 030 with it's MMU disabled.
 > Just pull out the EC030 and plug in a normal 030 and you suddenly have
 > your MMU.


Well, put that way it might make sense.  Especially since the cost of 030s
is dropping and will be pretty cheap by the time an MMU is really needed. 
Any of the 040 cards require an MMU or is that included in the 040 itself?



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From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: SAS/C 6.0
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:10:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug15.154935.18742@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> mueller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Carl Douglas Mueller) writes:
> Has anyone gotten any information from SAS about this product?  I saw their
> ad in Amazing Computing and in Amiga World.  This prompted me to write to
> them requesting info, but I was surprised that I didn't get anything from
> them directly.  I am a registered user of 5.10 and am interested in getting
> the upgrade.  Does anyone know the price?  (I haven't heard back from them
> yet.)  Did anyone hear from them yet?
>
>                                     Carl Mueller (mueller@math.wisc.edu)
>

I just got my upgrade notice in the mail yesterday.  Upgrade is $109 through
December 31, full retail is $395.

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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:38:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug17.203826.863
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > >>Very little software breaks on the A600.  VERY little.
 > >WHO is lieing you or Amiga Format magazine?? 30-40% is LITTLE?!


Most European game programmers want to do the greatest whiz-bang software
possible, so they tend to be pretty lax in following CBMs programming
guidelines.  When new hardware or OS versions come out, such software tends
to self destruct.  This is NOT CBMs problem or doing.  It is incumbent upon
the software authors to make their programs conform to minimum standards so
that their programs do not break with new OS versions or new hardware.  CBM
can only prevent such probs from their end, not from the programming end. 
Oh, well... wild and wooley programmers HAVE been warned many times.  Some
STILL seem not to have gotten the message.



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From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CBM, This is not STUPID this is a PROPOSITION
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:00:46 GMT
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <9513@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com>, Dr Peter Kittel Germany writes:

> In article <A6Iur*uO0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>  >
>  >> From billg@microsoft.com Mon Mar  2 21:20:12 1992
>  >> 
>  >> Thanks for your input. Unfortunately we are not able to take resources
>  >> to do Amiga versions of our products. 
>  >
>  >No great loss.  Remember Microslop's buggy AmigaBasic?
> 
> Well, huh, but it *is* useful. In fact, I use it every day. It has
> sort of character, you know, it has its quirks, but I know them by
> now and know how to live with them.

Yes, but you should NOT have to live with the bugs.  Microslop should have fixed
them (before release, or at least after.)  Also, the user interface is truly
awful!


                                                Jim Pritchett


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: Anu.Kapoor@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Anu Kapoor)
Subject: Re: A Non-Techie Perspective on Amiga Fate
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:34:39 GMT

In article <pbaker.02y2@tbag.tscs.com> pbaker@tbag.tscs.com (Pete Baker) writes:
>On Tue 11-Aug-1992  7:25a, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>EF> Except they DO do advertising.  which many people fail to take into
>EF> account. 
>EF> I`ve seen more commodore advertising in the last 6 months than in the 3
>EF> years
>EF> prior to that.
>
>Here Here!!  In the last 90 days Commodore has Flown one of its reps down to do a MultiMedia Presentation for our Users Group (Tampa Bay Amiga Group)
>and yesterday I got a call from Mary Berry (sp?) at CBM asking if there was anything they could do to help us.
>
>I also see quite a bit of advertising of Commodore and Amiga in many of the Video Trade Magazines and Professional Graphics and Sound type magazines...
>
>So Commodore is not filling the pages of the PC Clone mags... SO What!
>They ARE advertising in areas that generate the best response.  This is how companies determine where to advertise.. "Get the best bang for the buck!"
>
>Pete Baker

Well, I think Commodore must look to Apple as its role model. It
established itself as a niche computer <DTP> and then expanded outward
with GREAT advertising. The 1984 commercial is one of the best commercials
ever. What commodore HAS to do is stop advertising Amigas in Amiga World
and advertisine Amigas in Video Review/Byte/Compute/Etc. Amiga owners
already have enough Amigas. Apple is advertising left and right in DOS
magazines with its Anti-Windows ads. <Which by the way are brilliant>
Motorola is also helping Apple. And what should C= advertise in Amiga
World, well how about AmigaDos 2.0. Has anyone seens ads for it? I sure
haven't. I can't get over the fact that people can tolerate looking at
1.3. If C= could get Amiga users to upgrade to 2.0 and get non amiga users
to upgrade to Amigas, THEN they are successful. I am glad to hear C= is
having CDTV ads on tv. I just wish I could see them. C= has to project an
image to the world that they are not Atari-types. Why is it that some
people are EMBARASSED to have amigas? Apple users are more than arrogant
because they have an image. It is hip to own a Macintosh. I wish C= could
hire Apple's Ad Agency because they're effective in pointing out the flaws
with DOS machines... "This is making it easier?" etc.,

Oh Well...

Just my two cents worth...

Anu Kapoor


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From: gregp@gpsoft.adsp.sub.org (Dr Greg Perry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: GPFax Software, SupraFAXModem; Bugs?
Date: 10 Aug 92 17:24:10 GMT
Organization: GP Software, Australia
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug8.205633.15950@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> mccool@dgp.toronto.edu (Michael McCool) writes:
> I have been experiencing a few problems using the Supra Faxmodem and would
> like to connect to other users out there to make sure I not just doing
> something wrong and/or stupid.
> 
Michael,

Your comments are too long to go into here. Please see private mail to you.

I do not know what is specifically causing your problems. The errors you
report and not reproducable from my end but talk to us direct for more
specific support.


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From: jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:15:18 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <kdarling.713863399@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu>,
kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes:
>rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) writes:
>> When Mall of America opened up this week I went spelunking around,
>> the place IS big [...]   In Sears, CD-I had a huge crowd around it
>> with THOUSANDS of people per hour passing by. Nobody in the crowd
>> knew what I was talking about when I said, "Looks like a CDTV",
>> when I tried to explain the universal response was along the lines
>> of "C=, isn't that the cheesy little computer company?  [...]
>
>My question is: why would you even _want_ to mention CDTV?   CD-I has
>the better technology, much more backing and longterm planning, and
>is certainly a helluva lot more likely to evolve in a timely manner.
>
>> Off hand I'd say CDTV is in serious trouble to say the least, especially
>> if major Sears outlet's are showing them off in the computer section.
>
>As long as Amigans continue to buy CDTVs, it'll do okay.  Personally tho,
>I suspect that most buy CDTVs because they're itching for some (any?!)
>kind of new "Amiga" and/or official Commodore CD-ROM support.
>
>> Off hand I'd say more people saw that 1 CD-I unit this past week than
>> all of the US has seen the CDTV in the pasy year or so. NOT good C=.
>
>I've heard that Commodore has CDTV demonstrators at that Mall, too.
>
>kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>
 
I've seen CD-I in RadShacks and Sears in the Mall where I live, and the
conclusions I came to were that if the CD-I was such a good gadget, how come I
never hear of *anyone* buying one?  The problem with CD-I is that while it is a
good technology, it is a *closed* technology.  The Japanese have had the rights
to build a CD-I unit for two years now, but none have shown up on the market. 
When it comes to consumer electronics, the Japanese are usually the leaders,
and have licensed CD-I technology heavily, yet they have not seen fit to mass
market CD-I.  That makes me wonder about the viability of CD-I more than
anything else.  Secondly, CDTV has had far more third party development of
software than CD-I.  The big reason for this is that the parties most likely to
write software for both platforms(i.e. computer game companies) are completely
unwilling to spend $500k to write software for CD-I, whereas the development
costs for building a CDTV app are far, far(somewhere on the order of $100k for
a finished app) less.  Userbase generates software, software generates
userbase.  Since CDTV has more software, it will have a larger userbase.  Since
it has a larger userbase out of the box, it will have more development $$
targeted for it.
 
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ebers@gfxbase.in-berlin.de (Thorsten Ebers)
Subject: Compuserve Address from Amiback Authors
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:05:12 GMT
Organization: private
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi Guys and Girls,

I would like to know the compuserve address of Garry Holland,
he is one of the programmers of Amibackup.
Please email.

grettings,
          Thorsten

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.comm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: umward10@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward)
Subject: Citadel authors
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:13:10 GMT



   Does anyone know if any of the authors of Citadel BBS can be reach via
Internet?  Please mail me any info.  Thanks.

Derek

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Unanswered Questions
Originator: ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:59:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.165724.15932@sagpd1> monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) writes:
>    I still want to know why I can not boot my A2000HD with out a cartridge
>    in the Iomega. The quantum is ignored! Also after reading the manual I
>    still want to know the boot order of scsi devices.

I don't know about the Iomega, but I had similar problems with a Xetec
CD-ROM drive (and my tape drive, I think.)  Here's what I remember.
HDToolbox likes to notice what devices are on the SCSI bus and add them
to the Rigid Disk Blocks on the drive(s).

When you boot, the system likes to check all the drives that HDToolbox
said were there, waiting for a *long* time to see if they'll come ready.
Presumably this is so that it can make sure the system is booted from
the highest priority partition available.  The wait seems to time out
eventually though.

The only solution I found was to *never* run HDToolbox when any of these
"other" devices is powered up.  I don't know if you'll be able to do
that with your Iomega.

>    Monty Saine

-hans

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Question regarding ROM switcher
From: dmartin@uceng.UC.EDU (Dale Martin)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:24:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati


Hello! I was curious if I boot under 1.3 with a ROM switcher,
will I be able to access my hard drive which I reformatted under
2.0?  How about with a copy of fast file system in the libs
directory?

Any other comments regarding ROM switchers (other than "forget 1.3").

Thanks!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 8939527@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Microsoft Support
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:38:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.202102.863@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>
> > why dows the Amiga boot mac soooo much faster than a "real" mac ???
> > Why are it's screen motion So much faster. I compressed on a 68030
> > mac and had to wait for hours until  it finnished. On the amiga it's so
> > much faster !!
>
>
>Well, maybe because one of those machines is FAST and the other is only
>Half-fast?  ;-)

	I am pretty sure that the A500 could probably do better than that.
I mean even Imploder is hardly noticable and can go sometimes below 50%
lha is realy fast on a mac stuffit literaly took more than 20min and the
rest of the computer was unuseable. Unlike the A500 lha in the background
works like it's hardly there. THIS ON AN A500 with 68000 !!
	We shouldn't be so heavy on CBM for a great machine. 

>
>
>
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	George

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: 040 3000T !!
Keywords: A3000-T-040 A3640
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:06:49 GMT

jamesp@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (James Pickering) writes:
>I've been waiting for an answer to this but nobody seems to have
>put one up (apologies if I've missed it).
>Why is it the A3640 only works in a 3000T? The 3000T is almost
>impossible to get down here in Australia, so most people have 3000's
>only. Is the problem only a matter of space or of power?

Could be both.  But an Amiga dealer on CIS said that one problem was
with needed physical clearance for a heatsink.

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:33:22 -0400 
From: Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: The Byte article on New Amigas
	<1992Aug16.235744.824@pro-freedom.cts.com>

The byte article by Pournelle (in the sept issue) was about the A3000T,
which Jerry liked. He told everyone to go out and buy one (well, more or
less). Although he did have a few silly things to say about  the 2000
(he doesn't seem to realise that 2.0 runs on anything but a 3000T) , and
although the (evil) byte editors chose to 
make a text standout out of the *only* negative thing he said (about the
tape backup program), it was by and large an accurate, fair,  even
positive article. Commodore also had an ad in Byte, in an expensive (I
presume) position p 31, in microbytes.  Lets hope they continue that
policy.

michael
p.s. speaking of Pournelle, I just read a boot called "Fallen Angel" by
him, Niven, and someone else. It was garbage, utter garbage. Some of
their other collaborations have been very good.  This one is not. It's
an embarrassment. Blech. I felt dirty after reading it.
From: gt2038a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2038a gt2038a BROWNING,CHRIS SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: How's this for a solution
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:03:37 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Here's some food for thought

Why doesn't C= make a port of windows NT for the amiga.  I'm not say that
we should use NT as a replacement of AmigaDOS, rather that they make an
"emulator" that understands Windows NT commands and can make it work on
the amiga.  Supposedly, NT is portable to many platforms and that programs
made to run on NT don't need to know about the hardware it is running on.
Nt programs just need to know Windows NT, and the windows NT program takes
care of talking to the OS/hardware.  This way, programs written for NT
would work on the Amiga with little or no conversion problems.  This assumes
ofcourse that NT catches on.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Corrupt DMS archives? NOT?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 07:07:59 GMT

I am having troubles unpacking files with DMS.
 
I have DMS 1.11 which is (according to what I can find) the latest
version.  I just downloaded two files that I have been eagerly
awaiting which were packed with DMS.  As always, I -did- use
binary mode on my transfers.  The download appeared clean.  I
have NO trouble with -any other- archive types.  These two files
gave the exact same error I ALWAYS get when I try to unpack DMS
files:
 
Can't find Info Header.  Invalid DMS Archive.
 
Fatal Error!

------------------------
 
What the @#$%! am I doing wrong?  I get this error on testing the file, or
an attempting to unpack either file. (dms write filename).
 
 
Would some kind soul PLEASE enlighten me???
 
My system is:  A2500/030 '882 1chip 4fast 2.04OS(ROM) 105megQuantumHD
 
 
Thanks (I am forever in your debt if you can solve this!)
 
Terry   ==> taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CBM, This is not STUPID this is a PROPOSITION
Date: 11 Aug 92 15:12:22 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <A6Iur*uO0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
 >
 >> From billg@microsoft.com Mon Mar  2 21:20:12 1992
 >> 
 >> Thanks for your input. Unfortunately we are not able to take resources
 >> to do Amiga versions of our products. 
 >
 >No great loss.  Remember Microslop's buggy AmigaBasic?

Well, huh, but it *is* useful. In fact, I use it every day. It has
sort of character, you know, it has its quirks, but I know them by
now and know how to live with them.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: Pournelle (and Byte) strikes again!
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 16:18:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.182536.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> jcjust01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (J. Crazyrat Justen) writes:
>
>For those of you who won't see September BYTE until October...

Interesting... remarkably lucid for Jerry.

>The Amiga 3000T by Jerry Pournelle
>(*most* spelling and grammatical mistakes are my own.)

Well, who's is this, then?

>handle the copy-protection schemes.  Some game designers wrote directly to the
                                                          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>2000's hardware and ROMs, and while Commodore tried to make the 3000T ROMs
                     ~~~~
Rather silly, no?  :-)

There  were a few other misconceptions in there (Jerry, while trying to sound
authorative, apparently didn't know that Rom Kickstarts have been a fact of
life for several years, nor that the 2000 can get much of the same function-
ality of the 3000T with a new Rom), but otherwise I'm impressed.  Most of his
negative points are valid, without being vicious, and he seemed to be willing
to give the machine a fair shake.  Hmmm... blue moon last night?

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