From: gmartin@b-cpu.UUCP (George Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: More answers on Holocaust (G. Martin)
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:54:09 GMT
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From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Newsgroups:
alt.activism,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: More answers on Holocaust (George Martin)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 18:51:57 GMT
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
 
In article <RaFLiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP# gmartin@b-cpu.UUCP (George Martin)
writes:
 
#???????????????????????????????????????????????????
#Point out one time that I said I hated Jews.  There are many Jews
#involved in Revisionism.  I suppose I can call you a Gentile hatter
#since you are making up lies about me?
#???????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
Nonsense. You take the words of Jewish scholars and twist them 180
degrees to make them look like "revisionists". You quote Prof. Bauer
as saying that "less than 4 million people died in Auschwitz". True,
but how many does he said *have indeed* died?
 
In a recent post, you said that Prof. Chomsky of MIT agrees and
supports a lot of what you say. NAZI LIARS. All Chomsky did was protect
your right for free speech. I had an e-mail exchange with him
on this matter. He does not deny any of the Holocaust facts, such
as the gas chambers etc.
 
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?I didn't quote Prof. Bauer, and I didn't say that Prof. Chomsky
?positively agreed with what we say.  About 1 year or more ago, I said
?that Chomsky signed with others supporting the right of Prof.
?Faurisson to say what he wanted. And that this IMPLIED agreement with
?what Faurisson said.  I think you are getting me mixed up with someone
?else.  Just like you get your ideas of the Holocaust mixed up.
?Now who is the LIAR?
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#???????????????????????????????????????????????????
#Now you are getting closer to the truth.  The Zionists do control most
#of the popular media.  That is where you got most of your mis-
#information from.
#???????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
Another flimsy disguise for antisemites. Yawn.
 
#?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
#I never accused anyone of being "stupid".  Dense, yes, stupid, no.
#I try to educate.
#?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
How does someone laughing and puking in the same time sound like? Look
at the following quote from an article of yours:
 
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>From ichips!intelhf!agora!b-cpu!gmartin Sun Sep 15 16:52:24 PDT 1991
Article: 6569 of alt.conspiracy
 
 
     One thing to close with though.  Think back over all the years you
have been watching TV and listening to Radio.  How many times have you
heard about Priests, Ministers, clerics and officials of almost all
religions being shown as thieves, murderers, crooks and scum of all
kinds.  The one exception to this is a Rabbi being shown doing anything
worse than jaywalking.
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ANTISEMITE.
 
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?What is "anti-semitic" about that statement?  It is a rather truthful
?statement, I would think.  It just goes to show how the "6 million"
?figure has allowed the Zionists to do anything they want on the media.
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#From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
#
#No. A shameless lie. The Polish institute completely disagrees with
#Lechteur's conclusions. Not surprisingly, Winston says it is because
#"they are kissing up to the Zionists", Gee, I didn't know the
#Zionists rule Poland.
#
#???????????????????????????????????????????????
#Poland needs money to rebuild its country.  The Zionists have control
#of much of the international banks.  You can fill in the blanks.
#???????????????????????????????????????????????
 
OH WHAT DO YOU KNOW!! I expected that. Anyone that doesn't agree with
you, its because of Zionist pressure and extorion. Typical nazi
propaganda.
 
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?OH WHAT DO YOU KNOW!! I expected that. Anyone that says something you
?can't refute is called a Nazi.
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##Bodies being burned in Birkenau *pits*?  Don't you know that human
##bodies can't be burned in open pits?  I think you just made this up,
##hoping that I'd let it slip by like so many other lies that I haven't
##had time to respond to.  BZZZT, wrong assumption.
#
#BZZZZT BZZZT! I didn't make it up.
#
#????????????????????????????????????????????????
#BZZZZT BZZZT! I know you didn't make it up.  Why don't you use your
#brain for once and not take everything you read at face value?  When
#the Holocaust stories are mentioned,  most peoples brain goes on hold.
#People don't burn like cord wood.
#????????????????????????????????????????????????
#
#Kindly look at a photograph of bodies disposed of at such "burning
#pits"
#in the book "Technique and operation of the gas chambers in Auschwitz-
#Birkenau", by Pressac (page 422). it appears in many other books as
#well.
 
 
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?Pressac is a little more truthful than many other holocaust
?supporters.  Here are a few other things he says in his book:
?
?-There is no conclusive or documentary evidence for the widely claimed
?homicidal gassings in the Auschwitz main camp crematory building. The
?entire building was drastically "restructured" and "reconstituted"
?after the war, and the crematory chimney there is phoney. (pp.123,
?131-133, 144-146, 551)
?
?-The often quoted "autobiography" of former Auschwitz commandant
?Rudolph Hoess is riddled with errors.  What's more, the handwritten
?"manuscript" of several hundred pages contains not a single correction
?or crossing out, suggesting that it was copied out. (pp. 127-128, 551)
?
?-A 1945 Soviet film that "documents" extermination gassings in the
?"Kanada I" section is a "completely put up job." No homicidal gassings
?were ever carried out there. (pp. 46, 47, 49, 264)
?
?-The 1946 British military trial of Zyklon suppliers Dr. Bruno Tesch
?and Karl Weinbacher, which resulted in death sentences and hangings
?was unjust and probably a "masquerade."  (p.17)
?
?-The widely quoted figure of four million Auschwitz deaths is
?"propaganda" and "symbolic." (pp. 13, 501)
?
?-Cremation is much more problematical and timeconsuming than Holocaust
?historians have claimed, and the widely repeated stories about
?cremating 10,000 or even 25,000 corpses daily at Auschwitz are absurd
?and impossible. (pp. 244, 247, 253, 334, 384, 413, 420)
?
?-"Sonderaktion" ("special action") was not a euphemism for killing or
?extermination. (pp. 210, 213)
?
?-The diagram of "gas chambers" at Birkenau in the widely circulated
?1944 War Refugee Board Report is "inaccurate."  (pp. 459, 461)
?
?-An architectural plan of Auschwitz-Birkenau from August 1942 shows
?that the German authorities anticipated a camp large enough eventually
?to hold 200,000 inmates. (p. 203)  In other words, they expected to
?hold prisoners, not kill them.
?
?Photographs and diagrams show extensive quarantine and recuperation
?facilities for sick and injured Birkenau inmates. (pp. 510-513)
?Again, why try to heal sick prisoners when you were only going to kill
?them anyway?  One surivior who goes on speaking tours was asked this
?very question.  She answered, "The Germans were so cruel that they
?keep them alive so that they could suffer longer!"  Does't sound like
?she is playing with a full deck, if you ask me.
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#????????????????????????????????????????????????
#I have some extreme blow ups of those pictures you mention.  They are
#drawings that bear no resemblance to human figures.  Look at them
#closer.  Besides, if a temperature sufficient to burn bodies could be
#attained outdoors,  then anyone getting near enough to throw anyone in
#the pit would be burned to death!  How you can continue to believe
#these ridiculous stories is beyond me.
#???????????????????????????????????????????????
 
What's this horseshit??? what drawing??? the picture is quite clear.
The pits were deep, and petrol was poured into them. As a matter of
fact, the body of your hero Adolf Hitler was burned in exactly
such a "pit" - a fine ending for the bastard.
 
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?You must be looking a different pictures that the ones I have.  Ever
?figure out how much "petrol" it would take to burn millions of bodies?
?The amount would probably put a severe strain on their gasoline
?supply. Availability of gasoline was enough of a problem without using
?it for that.
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#????????????????????????????????????????????????
#The problem is,  up till about a year ago, it was claimed that "FOUR
#MILLION" were killed at Auschwitz.  This figure was a definite figure,
#chiseled in stone, until the Revisionists exposed the lie.  Suddenly,
#the amount was changed by the authorities at Auschwitz to less than
#"ONE MILLION" killed.  And this lower figure now includes all, not
#just Jews.
#?????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
What the hell are you talking about. The current figure appears
as early as 1950, in Reitlinger's book "the final solution".
Of cource. Reitlinger is no revisionist.
 
 
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?Thank you for supporting my contention that the Zionists control the
?media.  Go out on the street and ask 100,(no, 10 would probably be
?enough) people how many died in Auschwitz.  Not one would say one
?million.  Why has that been keep such a secret?  They never quote that
?figure in school books, TV, Radio, or newspapers.
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#??????????????????????????????????????????????????
#It doesn't make the true facts of WWII any better.  It does make the
#after-effects of WWII worse.  The six million figure has swayed public
#opinion towards Israel more than any other single thing since.  Why
#would we and Germany send so much money to Israel every year if such a
#story was not invented?
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So tell me, smarty pants: WHY doesn't Germany come out and expose
the "myth"? Are they afraid of the Zionist banks? If the Zionists
can dictate Germany what to do, why can't they stop sales of German
weapons to Arab countries?
 
 
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?First of all, this information is sweeping Germany like wildfire.
?Another thing is that how much credence would you disbelievers out
?there give to something Germany said?  I can hear it now, "What else
?would you expect them to say?"  I might eventually come from there
?after all.  Stranger things have happened.
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-Danny Keren.
 
 
Enough for now,
 
George Martin

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