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From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re: I found a pirate - what shall I do?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:59:29 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <Bx9nw2.A1D@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@yankton.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.213932.10692@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> benw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (bennett.weber) writes:
>>In article <Bx93tw.62C@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@acoma.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>>>And if there is so
>>>much piracy going on these days, I don't see the side-effects.
>>
>>OK, then go buy all the hottest PC and Mac software conversions for your
>>Amiga.  Hmmm?  Having trouble?
>
>Yeah, my conscience keeps saying "PC sucks, PC sucks."  Clue in.
>Companies that write progs for PC & Mac don't write it for Amiga either
>because they don't KNOW about the Amiga (not too likely) or they feel
>that PC and Mac are THE business computers and don't want to take the
>time to write an Amiga port.
>
>>>...And I can imagine SOB3 is being pirated out the butt.
>>
>>Yeah, that's generally where most pirates hang out...
>
>Heh!
>
>>Most people outgrow the "I need this and I'll hold my breath till I turn
>>blue" syndrome about age six.  Apparently, some don't.
>
>Tsk.  Yeah.. what a shame.
>
>>"I develop software...Oh, you've stolen my work?  Can we meet in person,
>>preferably in a locked room?..."
>
>It's a tough world, isn't it?  Shit happens.

Yeah, Sam.  You're living proof of  that.
From: mustang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul Christopher Miranda (I love Cheese))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Is there a Compugraphic font to Postscript font converter for Amy ?
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:05:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

As the title says, I'd like to be able to convert some compugraphic fonts
to postscript fonts for use in post.. or better yet, a postscript viewer
that can use compugraphic fonts in place of postscript fonts..
anyone know of such a beast ?


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From: gb03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE PHILIP BLUHM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AMIGA STINKS
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:26:33 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov20.140950.10347@nobeltech.se>, leeu@nobeltech.se (Leif Euren)
 writes:
>A "friend" of Thomas Hedemann wrote:
>>I FUCKING HATE AMIGAS!!!
>>ALL AMIGA OWNERS SHOULD BE KILLED
>
>
>To which Aaron Parisot replied:
>>   What type of person would want to broadcast his level of
>>   maturity in a manner such as this?
>>   Surely you have more constructive way to spend your time...
>
>Have it escaped you that Thomas posted an appology right after the posting
>of the obnoxious message above (<INFINITY.92Nov12161141@pink.iesd.auc.dk>)?
>
>If so, didn't it occur to you that the message was written only to provoke.
>At least I did, and decided that the person writing it didn't deserve my
>attension.  There must be hundreds of people out there who hates the Amiga,
>and they could easily swamp the news-group with flames.
>
>But they don't. Why? Because of the tracability.  You can't really post and
>be anonymous.  So I guess, when the opportunity to post in another persons
>name, the temptation becomes to great for a few lame persons.
>
>But let us keep a little netiquette here. If we all do it, provocations
>such the one above will stand out so much that nobody will respond to them.
>And that will take the fun out of it.
>
>
>Thomas, I feel sorry for you to have such members in your group at
>university, but don't pay attension to the pranks of this jerk.  Because
>that's just what he wants have: attension.  Instead give him credit for the
>constructive things he do, and maybe he can still become a free and
>responsible citizen of this our earth.
>
>       yours
>       Leif Euren
>
> __  __
>|  \   |  All opinions are my own, even if my employer claims otherwise!
>|   \  |
>|      |       Leif Euren                      NobelTech Systems AB
>|  \   |       System Manager Rational         S-175 88 JARFALLA
>|__ \__|       tel: +46-758-84072              Sweden
>

To reply to this drivel is inane.  Let us form a policy to ignore such
rantings and perhaps this forum can address more interesting discourse
apropriate to AMIGA.

Phylee THEE McNasty
From: app@shamash.cdc.com ( GSD Advanced Packing/Processes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: To be able to copy and paste...
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:37:40 GMT
Organization: Control Data Corporation, Arden Hills, MN

In article <9654@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> xero@cislabs.pitt.edu (George J Karabin) writes:
>While I am a mostly satisfied Amiga User, there is one major problem that I
>have with Amigados - it goes like this: I would love to have the cut and paste
>options for text in all of my applications, like on the Mac. I'm running 2.04,
>and I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to get this. I seem to remember
>someone mentioning that Amigados does in fact have this feature, but on my
>Workbench, it is definately not there. Is there some sort of setting that I
>have to enable, or a commodity or something like that? I'd be very appreciative
>if someone could bring me up to speed on this.
>
>Thanks,
>		Josh

The latest AmigaWorld has an article on the 2.x shell that says something
about it being possible on a console window if the application opens one.

I'm still at WB1.3 but I use Snap from a fish disk for this.  I can copy
and paste text to and from any window with it.  I miss this ability with 
the mac at work :).  Really, I have yet to find text I could not copy by
activitating snap and dragging the mouse over it!  It can even copy and
pastes graphics as iff files if you tell it to.

I believe powersnap does the same for 2.04 users.

Hope this helps...

Mike.
From: Don_-_Hirschfeld@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces Winners of 4000 Reasons Contest
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 11:53:48 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov21.080319.5209@pro-freedom.cts.com>

I missed the winning entries. Could someone repost those gems?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: beede@sctc.com (Mike Beede)
Subject: Re: Amiga 1200 Released at Comdex
Organization: SCTC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:23:18 GMT

sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS) writes:

>The high speed, 32-bit Amiga 1200 comes standard with one 3.5 inch
>floppy drive, 2MB of chip RAM and an internal IDE interface.

I take it that ``high speed, 32-bit'' without mention of a specific
processor is market-speak for ``68000''?

	Mike

-- 
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------------------ Arden Hills, MN  55112
                    (612) 482-7420
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces Winners of 4000 Reasons Contest
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:15:33 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <OAHVENLA.92Nov18204723@lk-hp-4.hut.fi> <1eeb08INNcu9@menudo.uh.edu>

>>In article <19366@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West
>- CATS) writes:
>>[some winners:]
>
>In article <OAHVENLA.92Nov18204723@lk-hp-4.hut.fi> oahvenla@snakemail.hut.fi (
O
>sma Ahvenlampi) writes:
>>OH beep!! IS THIS TRUE?! Things like THAT win an A4000, and I can't even
>>take part in the contest! Mind-blowing!  [etc etc]
>
>        Calm down.  The contest was just for fun.  The judging was done
>according to whatever standards the judges wanted, and there is no way
>to know what kind of "reason" they were looking for.  Commodore didn't
>have to have a contest at all; it's nice that they did it.
>
>        Heck, I thought *my* reason was *infinitely* better than any of the
>winning entries ("Buy an Amiga or I'll @$#%& KILL you") but you don't hear
>me whining about it. :-)
>

I too was a little surprised at some of the winning entries.  The winner
didn't have and zing or flash, or even hutspa (technical terms we use in
broadcasting :-) that even a "good" entry should have.  

I was quite disappointed, but as Dan says, it was THEIR contest.  They can
judge it as poorly as they wish.

No wonder they pick loosers for advertizong!  Oh well...

>                                                        Dan
>
> //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>| Dan Barrett -- Dept of Computer Science, Lederle Graduate Research Center |
>| University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA  01003  --  barrett@cs.umass.edu |
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////////

-Joel
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 13:44:16 EST
From: <TJK111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject:     Send me the FAQ

Could anyone take the time to send me the FAQ files for comp.sys.amiga.*
Or the FTP address where they may be found? I am trying to help someone
who is considering buying an Amiga for use in video. Thanks.

-Tom

Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:17037 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:29368
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: Programming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:04:51 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <92321.095417DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>, DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> In article <mwm.2npl@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us
> (Mike Meyer) says:
> >In <1e6dbmINNh75@ub.d.umn.edu>, rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) wrote:
> Your point?

That AMOS doesn't support the same technics as all BASICs. Of course,
you lost the context (as usual).

> >> I don't need to worry about clipping when I do
> >> a game, for example).  I write programs to do what they are supposed
> >> to do.   If you think these bad habits, argue with my CS teachers and go
> >> (re)take some classes yourself.
> 
> >Try asking your CS teacher (or me; I used to teach the stuff) about
>                  ::          :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> >poking the hardware directly, or complying with interface guidelines.
> 
> That doesn't surprise me. You fit the CmpSci stereotype to a T.

Mathematician, actually. You fit the engineering stereotype to a T.

> >I dunno - I don't consider that any class of programs that has >50%
> >(and Euro Demos approach are >75%) crash on my machine as being "good
> >programs". Likewise, anything that wants to treat my computer like a
> >game console (i.e. - reboot it to run a program) isn't a good program,
> >either.
> 
> Hate to break it to you, but your computer IS a game console adapted to a
> computer. Why not enjoy it? You're the computer equivilent of Scrooge.

Because if I was as fascinated by bright lights and pretty colors as
you are, I would have *bought* a game console. I hate to break this to
you, but your game console happens to be a very slick multitasking
computer. Why make it act like an MS-DOS machine? You're acting like
Othello.

> If AMOS isn't good for beginners, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS.

Well, being a stereotypical CS type, I'll use the stereotypical CS
answer: what do they want to do? Unlike you, I happen to believe that
tools have applications for which they are suitable, and you should
use the right tool for the job. If they are interested in flash and
not substance, or pretty blinking lights, then AMOS may be just the
tool for them.

> I suppose you think beginners should first obtain a PhD in CmpSci,
> then buy all the RKMs and program the Amiga in LISP. Riiiight.

If they're lucky enough not to have been exposed to BASIC, and want to
learn how to program, then they couldn't do better than Abelson and
Sussman's text. For people like you, Srpinger and Friedman have
written something that's a bit easier going. These texts teach
programming, which is what they want to learn.

	<mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders)
Subject: trying to reach Ralf Ludwig
Originator: kxs5829@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:27:08 GMT

				    		..
	I'm trying to reach Ralf Ludwig of bsc buroautomation regarding a 
letter he sent me.  My replies to him at ralf@bsc.asdp.sub.org bounce.  If
anyone can get in contact with him or can provide an alternate email path to
his site, I would appreciate it.

	- Kyle

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:17017 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:29341
From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMOS
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:44:37 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

>>Mandarin (the FUN - 2 - 3 ones) for one.  Also, on page 1 of the AMOS
>	       ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Let me point out before anyone gets confused that it is the Fun-School-2,
>(Fun-School-3, Fun-School-4, etc) series that is written in AMOS.  *Not* 
>the FUN-2-3 series.

I appologize for this error.  The names are so similar that they are
easy to confuse.  I will be SURE to get it right in the future.  

BTW, I have a 2 1/2 year old nephew and I would like
to find a list somewhere (or suggestions) of some good educational
software for that age on up.  If you have a suggestion, please E-Mail me
with a description, name of publisher, and approx. price (where possible).

>Our edutainment program called "AMY'S FUN-2-3 ADVENTURE" is written in both 
>C and assembly.  By the way, it's a great Christmas gift for the kids. :-)     
>
>David Alves
>Devasoft - 408/927-9645
>devasoft@cup.portal.com

Again, I am DEEPLY sorry for this mixup.

	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

UseNet: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu
At: University of Minnesota, Duluth
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Piracy
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:30:21 EST
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Organization: Lakes Public Access

skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:

> Don't be such an ignorant ass.  There is nothing you or any of the other
> children can say which justifies piracy.  Your sort is not needed and is
> certainly not wanted around here, so go the hell away.  The logic being used
> by you and your ignorant buddies is so ridiculous that one can only conclude
> that none of you are more than 15 years of age.  Go away and live your life
> of crime, but don't try to justify it to the rest of us.
> 
What an astoundingly rude pig you are!  Just another rabid anti-piracy 
nut who cannot accept that others can have differing opinions.  In fact, 
you seem so rigid that unless everyone agrees 100% with you, you jump 
them like some wild weasel.  Suggestion:  take a vallium.  Nowhere in 
this posts did I see this guys suggest that piracy was acceptable, he 
merely stated that it wasn't equivalent to shoplifting.  Get a life, man!

> >Software piracy also doesn't affect shopowners in the same way as shopliftin
> >because the software is still on their shelves...
> 
> But it is affecting the shopowners and therefore it is wrong.  You bozos can'
> seem to grasp the fact that the impact of piracy goes further than the author
> publisher, distributor, and shopowner.  And it is assholes such as yourself
> who are complaining the loudest that there is no software available.  Duh, ge
> a clue!  Why in the world would anyone want to write software if the sales ar
> low due to piracy?

Yet again, I have to ask, _where_ did this guy say piracy was ok?  He 
merely said it wasn't equivalent to shoplifting.

> Your .sig is as stupid as the other pirates who post your ridiculous defense
> of piracy.  Why don't you all just go away and have your little pirate partie
> where you can all whack off while cracking the latest games?  And if you did
> not hack into someone else's account and really are in CS, you should switch
> majors now because your kind is not welcome.
> 
> Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate and Pirate Basher
> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Want info on PCMCIA
Keywords: PCMCIA A600 A1200 IBM Ethernet
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:46:38 GMT

In <1796@dsinet> jonn@chusuk (Jon Noble) writes:
>Do these cards rely on the laptop Intel processor and MS-DOS? Are they plug-

The software for them probably relies on the Intel processor and MS-DOS
(or Netware or OS/2).

>and-play in the A600/1200? (I doubt it.) Can a driver for AmigaDOS be created
>that would otherwise make these cards plug-and-play?

A driver could be create that makes these cards plug-and-play. If they start
selling the cards for $200 or less then you probably see drivers.

>In general, is any PCMCIA card (memory, modem, disk drive) directly "compatible"
>on any hardware platform, or are software drivers required to provide the glue
>between the card and the computer?

Of course there is software needed. Just the low-level access methods are
standardized. But these won't give you f.e. a networking protocol.

>One last one: if, as I suspect, the answer is that drivers are required, is
>C= or any third parties working on such drivers for specific cards?

Not that I'd know of... it probably depends on the price for such cards.

Regards,
-- 
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From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: PIRACY v2.00 How about a mailing list?
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:07:47 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

> OK, another one joins the debate...

Let me at'em its my turn too...

>>- Would the software companies earn more money if piracy wasn`t going on?
> 
> Knock, knock?  McFly?  Anybody home?  Look at Nintendo, Sega etc...
> The amount of piracy on those machines would be fairly low, like about nil,
> and I can tell you, they must be making HEAPS.  Think about it, all those 
> machine sold, and each owner must buy originals.  (or borrow from friend and
> library.  And I've heard of the cartridge copiers, but I hardly think its a
> significant problem, yet)

Knock, knock yourself.  And keep your hands off my freshly greased
hair!

Back to the point though.  I don't know about Australia or Norway but
here in the US and in Japan rental stores carry many cartridges for
sale.  Admitedly this may not be equivelent to piracy on first glance
but Record, Movie, and Software companies do find them equivelent in
many cases.

You may not be familiar but there have been many vigorous debates of
late between Japanese lobbiest for their domestic rental stores and
American film and record companies.

There is a debate for the same reason that there is debate about
"software rights infringement."  Companies when denied of compensation
they feel they are due, have a tendency to protest. :) Consumers also
have a tendency to protest when undue restrictions are placed on
property they purchase [I'm considering the case of piracy occuring
between one who purchases a program and "pirates" it to a friend.] for
personal use.

To give a philosophical account of the merits and drawbacks of
"software piracy" requires one not only to consider the producer
[which this discussion has focused one in my estimation] but the
consumer's reletive needs as well.

Answer the question does the community benefit if there is or is not
piracy requires a commitment to certain views on how ethics and
morality are defined.  If the issue is framed in terms more specific
to the individual, ergo. is it fair to the programmer, for example,
again you must answer other ethical issues before proceeding to the
central issue of piracy, IMO.

Has anyone else read the GNU guru, Steinman's (I've probably misspelled
that), remarks on the issue of software copywrite?  Jack Radigan and I
had an interesting discussion several months on this subject, and it
seems that there is enough interest to start a mailing list on the
subject?  Anyone interested in a more organized discussion?

>>-Morten Leikvoll / leikvoll@hsr.no (Is it short enough?)
> 
> Torban Bennett       torban@murdoch.edu.au
> Murdoch University,
> Western Australia.  Hopfully, they wont have had a problem with what I said ;-)
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Enlightenment Happens?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Worried about price of AGA...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:57:52 GMT


I'm a little worried about the prices of AGA machines.  They seem TOO low.
Now, I'm not complaining, it's just that I can't afford an AGA machine right
now but I may be able to later.  I'm afraid they might skyrocket the price
some time in the near future (after they build a user base.)  Any speculations?

Remember Toaster 2.0?

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: fredness@cup.portal.com (Frederick Armstrong Shaul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Floptical...
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:06:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov19.093647.90642@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>

>
> I was talking to my local Amiga dealer about Flopticals about a month ago.
> ...
> The Quaterback people supposedly said that the disks start becoming
> unreliable after they've been over-written 5 or 6 times.  They believe
> the problem is with the disks, not the drive.
>

Flopticals unreliable?  I recently evaluted such a beast with an ENSONIQ
EPS 16+ equipped with a SCSI adaptor.  Of the three floptical disks I
used, one in particular got heavy use as I developed a defrag algorythm.

Not once did I experience any medium related failures.  In fact, my
understanding of the optical tracking and the Barium..X medium leads
me to believe that flopticals must be several orders of magnitude more
reliable than tradition magnetic medium (of course upping the density
effectively grows the failure potential ...).

Also neet is formating 720/1440 KByte disks via SCSI with floptical, the
motor speed is twice as fast as typical IBM 3.25" drives ... :)

- frederick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc