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From: canders@isr.harvard.edu (Carl E. Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:37:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: burrhus.1992Aug19.143744.18352
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <920818174611_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

	I had always thought dead people went to LA ...

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

	Assuming I could escape from LA, I'd consider it.

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

	This is clearly one of those Zen questions.  The correct answer is,
"Would you like a BEER?"

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.

	This is other Zen thingy, of course.  The correct answer is a punch
in the teeth.

Immortally,


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From: key@soda.berkeley.edu (peter li'ir key)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Survey
Followup-To: alt.flame
Date: 18 Aug 1992 20:10:01 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <920818174711_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

in the ground is a valid answer.
but hopefully i'll get away from fools like you

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

if heaven is an absence of you, there will i go

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

presupposing god exists my answer would be
"go away you don't exists"

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.

you lie, and you insult my intelligence.  just from looking
at your crosspost line i can see your agenda.

>Bye,
>CDC

peter li'i key, queer taoist mystic
key@soda.berkeley.edu

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From: psavoie@terranet.cts.com (Pierre Savoie)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: People-Net [terranet], Thornhill Ontario 
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:46:24 GMT

"If you were to die today and God asked you, 'Why should I let you into my
heaven?', what would you say?"
 
   I would point out to my time-share certificate for a condo near Cloud 9 and
Purgatory Beach.  I bought into it along with these other guys named Lou
Siffer, B.L. Zeebub, A.S. Modeus, B.E. Lial and N.Q. Bus.  Think God'll honor
it?

UUCP: zoo.toronto.edu!generic!terranet!psavoie
ARPA: generic!terranet!psavoie@zoo.toronto.edu
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From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice)
Subject: Re: All this recent discussion
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:55:21 GMT

In article <26610@life.ai.mit.edu> daz@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David A. Z.) writes:
>and you CONVIENANTLY left off the last line of my text ("the vast average")
>in your POSTED reply and added:
>
Does that mean that you have fucked enough asian girls to know that
the vast average is tighter. I think not.
BTW, what the hell is a vast average, you moron.

> are you conveiently comparing them to some 60 year old asian
>slut?)
Maybe you could compare them but I couldn't. I am not in the habit of fucking
60 year olds. Shit, you must be desperate. Watch out for those diseases, guy.

>        and respond to you with stuff about "you sick motherfucker.... how
>dare you advocate rape?"  This sort of pathetic tactic is a bunch of 
>rubish that is beyond the intelegence of the average netter.  Grow up!
I don't wanna grow up. I'm a toys R us kid. there's a million toys at Toys R us
that I can play with.

At least I have a sense of humour. Which is all that my repost was doing.
It is also obvious that you should not be ridiculing anybody's intelligence
because you are so stupid that you spell intelligence , intelegence. Quite
stupid, no?
BTW, I do advocate rape. So shut the fuck up, loser. To quote George
Micheal (or actually to misquote him because you claim that I  am so
good at it). Rape is wonderful. Rape is fun.
	     But rape is best when its one on one.

I noticed that your address is blah@blah.ai.mit.edu . Are you the
artifical intelligence they are working on. A lot of bugs to iron
out, eh.

I would in passing like to say that it was a pleasure reading your
re repost, but it would be a lie. So I would just like to say
FUCK OFF, YOU STUPID ARROGANT SELF-IMPORTANT POMPOUS OVER-INFLATED
EGO-CENTRIC PIECE OF SHIT.

Have a horrible day, goof

Matthew
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Subject: Re: Survey
From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:24:31 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:

>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
'Sheol'...the place of the dead....

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?
Nope...not until the return of Jesus Christ...

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?
I would say "You shouldn't".  Have mercy on me a sinner.

 -Steve
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From: daz@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David A. Z.)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Most request! (was Re: Survey)
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:33:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.evil,alt.flame,misc.test
Organization: /etc/organization


	Someone posted a "heaven" survey to a list of newgroups (see above)
that is clearly much longer than it should be.

	PLEASE be sure to check the "Newgroup" line before doing any
followups so that you don't post to more Newsgroups than you consider 
appropriate.

	I'm sorry to add one more post to this unforntinate circumstance
but hopefully this will prevent more future posts than it causes.

	Thanks you.   

Ps. If you need to flame or otherwise respond to this post, please do so via 
    email.

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From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:02:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.204749.26282@ncar.ucar.edu> urban@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Art Urban (PROFS)) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.201713.23219@infonode.ingr.com> norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris) writes:
>%adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>%>70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>%>>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
>%>'Sheol'...the place of the dead....
>%       [etc.]
>%Where the *HELL* did _this_ come from?
>%-jeff
>
>
>
>Would you believe it came from somebody already dead and buried in the ground,
>because he failed to answer god's multiple choice question? 
>

Would you believe a _picture_ of a coffin and a blade of grass??
(Missed it by _that_ much!)

Piglet
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From: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Where it came from (was Re: Survey)
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:04:10 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: na
Reply-To: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.197
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

In article <1992Aug20.022507.10017@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com (Christopher M. Conway) writes...
> 
>I already emailed a copy of my post to them; I was going to do it anyway,
>since they probably won't read any of the groups they posted to. (Why the
>hell is sci.physics in there? And how did they miss alt.mythology and
>alt.sex?)

Sci.physics was included because foolish fundamentalists are threatened by
scientific knowledge.  They don't understand their own religion, or science,
well enough to understand that physics deals with the facts of the mechanical
world and that religion deals with morals and values and that the two are
completely disjoint bodies of knowledge.  

They fear that if we understand the big bang that their faith will be 
theatened.  They fear that if evolution is true that the literal word
of their precious English translation of a two thousand year old document 
might not be the absolute literal word of God.  

Physics, as one the most rigorously established bodies of knowledge that we
have, is threatening to fools who base their faith upon models of the physical
world at conflict with the hard cold facts of physics.  Some faith.

-Scott

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				had been definitely settled, I think I would
				immediately drop dead again."      - Vandiver
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From: wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com (Christopher M. Conway)
Subject: Re: Where it came from (was Re: Survey)
Reply-To: wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com
Organization: Prickly Wombat Enterprises
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:25:07 GMT


In article <1992Aug19.193654.25411@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Jesse.Taylor@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jesse Taylor) writes:
- 	Hmm... Maybe someone should collect all the replies and mail them
- to those wannabe social reformers? <grin>

I already emailed a copy of my post to them; I was going to do it anyway,
since they probably won't read any of the groups they posted to. (Why the
hell is sci.physics in there? And how did they miss alt.mythology and
alt.sex?)

However, I think this is an *excellent* idea. In fact, it's so good, I think
that we should *all* do it!

--
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From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Acme Household Pacifier
Organization: Bull Milking Dept., Special Sauce Bureau, McDonald's
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 07:14:38 GMT

Pacify your friends & family!  Pacify those noisy neighbors upstairs!  
Pacify the dog and goldfish!  It's fun and easy!

We let 11-year old Susan Fenton try out the cordless rechargeable Acme 
Household Pacifier.  Let's listen as Susan asks her family about it:

Susan Fenton: "Billy, what do you think of the Acme Household Pacifier?"

Bill Fenton:  "Forgive me, Susan, for I have sinned and committed   
     thoughtcrime, and I suspect Mom may have also!"

Susan:  "Mom, what do you think?"

Elizabeth Fenton:  "Thank you for manipulating me.  How may I serve 
     you?"

Susan:  "Dad, what do you think?"

Richard Fenton:  "O great and wondrous fount of all that is good, 
     permission to gaze up into your eyes?  Oh please, may I clean your 
     toothbrush and tie your shoelaces?

  "Permission to kidnap my boss and bring him in for pacification?

  "O source of all truth, how may you use me?"

Susan:  "Tricia!  What do you say when I ask you what you think of my 
     new toy?"

Patricia Fenton:  
     "OhDearSisterIAmSoSorryToHaveFailedYouHowHaveIDispleasedYouNow?"

Susan:  "Tricia, what do you say when I ask you what you think of my new 
     toy?"

Patricia:  "Oh Uh 
     TheAcmeHouseholdPacifierIsAGreatDealEveryoneShouldHaveOne- 
     IBoughtTwelveOfThemEvenThoughImNotAllowedToUseThem-
     DidISayThisRightOrShouldIStartOver?"

Narrator:  "And Susan, what do YOU think?  Is the Acme Household 
     Pacifier, now available in beige and with a range of up to twelve 
     feet, REALLY a great gift that's safe wholesome fun for the whole 
     family?"

Susan:  "Well I don't think Trish would --"

Narrator:  "Susan, do you think it would be completely safe for us to 
     try out the new Extended Range Acme Household Pacifier on you?"

Susan:  "TheAcmeHouseholdPacifierReallyIsAGreatGiftThat'sFunForTheWhole-
     FamilyAndIt'sComcomplepletelySasafeILoloveTheAcmeHouseholdPacifier-
     It'sTheGrea--"

Narrator:  "Thank you, Susan!"

Susan:  "testThingEverILoveTheAcmeHouseholdPacifierIt'sWonderfulIlove--"

[ad ends]
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From: ledwards@leland.Stanford.EDU (Laurence James Edwards)
Subject: Re: Where it came from (was Re: Survey)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 07:11:35 GMT

In article <z+!n1_d.jfh@netcom.com>, jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
|> In article <920818174711_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 
|> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey wasn't Susan Calvin the frigid Roboticist in Asimov's "I Robot"?

Larry Edwards
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From: johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Johan Wevers)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:25:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.evil
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.

70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:

>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

Parts of me will be used to replace defect parts of other people.
The rest of me will go to medical school as a training object.
This is the only way to take use of a dead person, so it's the
logical way to do so.

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

``Heaven'', in the usual sense of the word, does not exist. So the
answer must logically be NO.

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

This is unpossible. If I die, I cant answer any questions any more.
If I saw something calling him/her/itself ``god'', it must be an
alien or time traveler with a very high developed technology. I
would ask him for a quantum gravity theory. 

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.

A primitive concept, called ``god'', which rests us from the stone age.

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From: beast@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Beast of Mentor)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:26:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.evil
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <920818174611_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
Good question.  I'm willing to wait to find that one out (we all do,
eventually...
My parents believe that we either reincarnate (this plane is* hell), or rise to
a bigger, better plane, where we'll continue working on our Karma, and rein-
carnate there again, till we rise, etc, etc...

I'll wait and see.
>
>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?
No.  But I'll be closer to it.
>
>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?
'Why should I seek entrance?'
>
>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.
It's your agenda, dude.  I need to know you before I can read your mind.
However, my first guess is that you plan on leaving this plane ahead of s
schedule, (or have I been reading too much alt.suicide.holiday?)
>
>Bye,
>CDC
Is that goodbye to us, or goodbye to the world?

-The Dark One
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From: winterh@emunix.emich.edu (Twist)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: Detroit Institute Of Criminal Arts And Sciences
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:01:52 GMT

In article <920818174711_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
>
Valhalla.

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?
>
No, I will go to Valhalla.

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?
>
By "God" I assume you mean Odin, and to him I shall say, "I heve been a
brave and valiant warrior. I have slain many foes.

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.
>
Your agenda? Doesn't matter, because you'll make whatever you want out
of what you find. Just like all the religious groups do with RPG's.

-- 
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From: mgfrank@avernus.com (Marc G. Frank)
Subject: Re: Where it came from (was Re: Survey)
Organization: Maryland Appreciation Society
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:38:48 GMT

In article <992Aug9.9654.254@samba.oit.unc.edu> Jesse.Taylor@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jesse Taylor) writes:
>In article <z+!n_d.jfh@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>>
>>Just want to point out something about this posting.  It didn't come from
>>Usenet.  It was sent from CompuServe using the mail-to-news gateway at
>>Berkeley.  Unless they have another account somewhere, they won't even see
>>any followups. 
>	Hmm... Maybe someone should collect all the replies and mail them
>to those wannabe social reformers? <grin>

I believe that CIS users have to pay for any mail they receive through
the Internet gateway.  Therefore, perhaps if we were each to send them,
oh, say, a uuencoded NET/2 distribution...

Marc G. Frank                            mgfrank@avernus.com
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From: cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Survey
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:07:19 GMT

In article <920818174611_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

Dunno.  I'l find out when I get there.  Acting like I know what's going
to happen after I kack is pretending to have knowledge that I can't
possibly have -- no one can.  It is hubris and arrogance of the worst
kind.

I'll find out when I get there. 

And why isn't "in the ground" a valid answer?  Do you have to go
SOMEWHERE?  If someone wants to say "in the ground," they have a perfect
right to believe that.

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

I do not know:

a) if there is a heaven, or

b) what the criteria for evaluation would be if there WERE criteria for
   evaluation.

Asking the question is dumb.  We'll find out when we die.  Or maybe we
won't.  In any case, it's not worth asking, and it's arrogant as all
hell to assume that ANYONE knows what lies after.

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

Again, you are assuming knowledge that you don't have:

a) that there is a god.

b) that it's remotely interested in what happens to you after you die.

c) that it has to ASK you in the first place, like a cop pulling you over
   and saying, "Do you know how fast you were going?"

d) again, that heaven exists.

Pardon me for shouting, but WE WILL FIND OUT WHEN WE DIE, OR MAYBE WE
WON'T.  IN ANY CASE, I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE TIME THINKING ABOUT IT.  I
DO NOT NEED A GOD WATCHING OVER ME TO CONVINCE ME TO BEHAVE MYSELF.  I
ACT AS NICE AS I CAN TOWARD PEOPLE BECAUSE I WANT TO AND BECAUSE IT
FEELS GOOD.

No police force needed.

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.

Well, okay, but I still have to wonder, "Hmmmm . . . " 

>Bye,
>CDC

Blessings,
Janis




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