HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zjoc01@hou.amoco.com (Jack O. Coats)
Subject: Re: compuserve
Reply-To: zjoc01@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:21:36 GMT

I've been using CompuServe off and on for years.  Their new pricing scheme for basic
services makes it more affordable than ever at $7.95/mo.  To get the good stuff, like
direct support from Microsoft, other vendors, etc, there are additional charges, 
like $6/hr connect time @ 300 baud, $12/hr @ 2400, and they have 9600 available in the
$24/hr range.  The charges are billed directly (for another surcharge) or to Visa or MC. 

They have a CompuServe Information Manager (CIM) available to put a gui on CIS (Compu-
Serve Information Service).  It allows batch up/down load of email.  Other good programs
are TAPCIS, available on CIS, that allows fully batch oriented transactions with CIS, 
and makes using 9600baud cost effective.  There are other programs you can use too, 
or just a dumb terminal will work.  If you will s-mail me your address, I'll have CIS
mail you a membership request folder to give you an effective 'free' use of basic services for a month or so.  Or just call their 800 number (I don't have it with me) and get an ID.

I've liked having national weather reports and radar displays available whenever I want to see them.  I saved the graphics GIF files of huricane Andrew at several time intervals over it's life so my son (Andrew) will have something interesting to see later...



Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: wonge@fraser.sfu.ca (Edmund Wong)
Subject: Linux-based BBS's anywhere?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 12:52:38 GMT


  Hi.  

    I've just installed LInux 0.98pl5 and have been planning to
get a linux-based BBS up.  Currently I'm running a Remote Access bbs,
connected to a few local networks as well as one national network.
All of these networks are of fidonet compatibility, thus, meaning
that I get Fidonet packets tossed daily into my HD.  Now with the
installation of linux, I'm also planning to get an Internet feed.

    Now the question is:-

    Is there such a linux(unix)-based BBS out there that has the following 
basic features?:-

    o can procoss fidonet mail packets(be it the normal ?.SU1 packets
      or the Opus-type packets).
    o has built-in mailer capabilities(or at least, there is a mailer
      out there that I can use, in conjunction with this BBS system.)
   
    Other features like, uummm, games and file transfers, I can worry
about till later, but right now, my main concern is actually finding
that particular BBS system.

    Does anyone know of such a BBS system?  If there is such a system,
but the mailer doesn't come with it, which mailer would you suggest?

    Like, you probably would've figured out by now, that I'm used to
the Dos-based BBS systems which require a mailer as a front-end for
the usual dialing out for mail, or waiting for mail to come in, or
to transfer users to the actual BBS system.

   Hmm while I'm at it, can someone explain the terms "SLIP" and
"Internet drop"?  I've encountered these terms, but not sure what
they mean.  If I'm correct, does SLIP mean a 24hour connection?

    Any help appreciated! 

Thanks..
Ed.
 
-- 
InterNet: wonge@fraser.sfu.ca  |  "Fail not; Learn Not.
                               |  It is with failing, that one learns,
                               |  So by Learning, one must fail." - Edmund Wong
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: larry@gator.use.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Mud For Tbbs?
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 13:56:05 GMT

>I run TBBS with 10 High Speed lines (ports locked at 38k) and its very
>smooth... I know some Unix BBS that are all ready slow with V22bis
>modems..

Unix can support at least 128 modems with the right multiport card --
then one can chain the RISC cards providing support for up to 512 ports
per machine.  The boards have enough horsepower to support 38400 on
all the ports at one time.  

>And there is all kind of games, utils etc etc for TBBS! I run about 70
>games and 3 multi user dungeons.

But the games are limited specifically to TBBS and their "window specifications"
where as for Unix, just about any Unix game will run under ANY unix BBS.  That
is the neat thing about Unix -- heck -- you could have all 128 users spawing
Word Perfect on-line as their favorite editor (assuming you have an unlimited
user of WP) if you want to.  

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.use.com
keeper of the Gator                                   uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Waffle/GoMail/FredGate
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 22:16:11 EST
Organization: Professional Exchanges Services, Inc.

Hi folks!

I've been trying to post this message for hours, and am not sure it made 
it through.

I'm having trouble with FredGate, and need an assist.

I would like to set up an EchoMail (not NetMail) conference in WildCat, 
and have messages in that conference sent to UUCP, with a proper To: line 
as the first in the message gated to Internet E-Mail.  How can I do this?

Michael

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     mpearl@pes.com     |       Bethesda, MD
                        |       (301) 907-0349
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From: visbrown@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with PCBoard, Frontdoor, Doors, and X00?
Summary: alt.bbs.crash.crash.crash ;)
Keywords: PCBoard, Frontdoor, X00, crash, BBS
Date: 25 Dec 92 03:33:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec24.152109.3427@nwnexus.WA.COM>, faf@halcyon.com (Mike from the FAF) writes...
>First, let me describe the system.
> 
>The problem is, the system periodically crashes with the error:
> 
>Invalid COMMAND.COM
> 
>Cannot load COMMAND, system halted
> 
>It does this when exiting doors (especially QuickBASIC doors, but not
>exclusively) and when exiting regular programs.
> 
>I tried installing a new copy of COMMAND.COM but that didn't seem to help.
> 
>Does anyone have a clue what's going on?  This crashing is becoming VERY
>annoying.
>-- 
>faf@faf.org -- Free Access Foundation
>Anonymous FTP to halcyon.com and look in /pub/faf for more information.


Sounds like it may be finding a copy of COMMAND.COM in a subdirectory that
doesnt match the version of DOS your running.  Us a file loacator (Norton's
File Locate or equivalent) to see if you have any.

Bill
(This isnt a sig, I'm typing this by hand!)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,comp.bbs.misc
From: faf@halcyon.com (Mike from the FAF)
Subject: Re: Problems with PCBoard, Frontdoor, Doors, and X00?
Keywords: PCBoard, Frontdoor, X00, crash, BBS
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 00:02:21 GMT

In article <uoDcwB4w165w@pes.com> Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com> writes:
>My guess is that you don't have enough file handles available... but it
>could also be your STACKS= or FCBS=... how do you currently have these
>set in CONFIG.SYS?

Um, I don't...

-- 
faf@faf.org -- Free Access Foundation
Anonymous FTP to halcyon.com and look in /pub/faf for more information.
From: George.Wilson@p1.f330.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (George Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: QWK mail vs OPX
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 07:37:54 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/330.1 - Computer Mechanic, Largo FL

26 Dec 92, Robert Kastigar writes to All:

>> If anybody is familiar with off-line mail-readers, maybe you can
>> help me decipher something that has come up.  The only "pakcages"
>> that got delivered to me had the suffix OPX instead of QWK.

That's another reader called Silver Express by Hector ?? which uses
a different format.

>> Question #2: Is there any conversion utility that converts from
>> one form to the other?

Not to my knowledge.

--  
Internet: George.Wilson@p1.f330.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG
UUCP:     ...!myrddin!tct!mechanic!330.1!George.Wilson
Note: Mechanic is a free gateway between USENET & FIdonet.
      For information write to chief@mechanic.fidonet.org
From: davea@hotcity.COM (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: 2 Jan 93 02:46:48 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <DZuNwB5w165w@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca>, lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca
(Jason Cooper) writes:
>davea@hotcity.COM (Dave Anderson) writes:
>
>> In article <o87JwB1w165w@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca>, lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca
>> (Jason Cooper) writes:
>> >Anybody here know if it is possible to request "common carrier status" 
>> >for a BBS?  For those of you not familiar with this, or perhaps looking 
>> >for an american equivalent, this status is granted to services such as 
>> >radio stations and telephone companies, and absolves them of all 
        ... ... ...
>> 
>> This is a LOADED question.....  If you have not read or heard of them yet,
ma
>> I recomend that you first check out BBS Digest and Boardwatch.  These are
the
>> two magazines that cater to us in the BBS world (both users and sysops). 
>> Another sourse is your local sysop group.  And then there is a book
"Syslaw".
        ... ... ...


Okay, got the book right here: "Syslaw"; By - Lance Rose, ESQ and Johathan
Wallace, ESQ; Publisher is LOL Productions in conjunction with PC Information
Group, Inc., 1126 East Broadway, Winona, MN  55987.  Sorry I see no ISBN
number.
I think that most of us fall under the classification that you are presenting
and feew that unless we (the Sysop) has reason to belive that there is a reson
to belive thesoftware or user to be suspicious of, then you have little to
worrie about, criminally that is.  Civial liability is another story, you know
what a sue happy culture we are - here in the USA, anyway.  I think that I
would give any pirate activity the boot from my system rether than reporting
it, also. 


Dave,  This  T E S T  BBS,  408-847-5251
From: mdh@genco.bungi.com (Michael Hackett)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:37:18 GMT
Reply-To: mdh@genco.bungi.com (Michael Hackett)
Organization: Gentry & Assoc. Excelsior Springs, MO

In article <o87JwB1w165w@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca> lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca (Jason Cooper) writes:
>Anybody here know if it is possible to request "common carrier status" 
>for a BBS?  For those of you not familiar with this, or perhaps looking 
>for an american equivalent, this status is granted to services such as 
>radio stations and telephone companies, and absolves them of all 
>responsibility for what happens to transpire through their services.  I'm 
>wondering if I can apply for this for my bulletin board so that I am not 
>held responsible for pirated files that rest on my drive though I don't 
>use them.  I don't see why this WOULDN'T be granted, but I'm wondering if 
>anybody out there has done this or knows how I might go about doing so.

	_VERY_ interesting idea, Jason.  I recently read an article in
"Forbes" magazine, in which there was a short paragraph about the fact
that there have been a number of hackers whose equipment has been taken
by US law enforcement, and though no charges have ever been pressed,
they've never recieved their systems back.

	I don't know that "common carrier status" couldn't exist for
BBS systems, and I do like the idea, but it could be used as a way of
protecting yourself if you are a pirate.	r

	If you were a pirate, and got "common carrier status" for putting
up a BBS, then what would keep you from being able to pirate and then if
caught, claim that it was placed on your system somehow through the

BBS?  QKI
*3|	I like the idea of the status, but with the way the US government
is coming down on hackers in the US..it's unlikely that such a thing would
be granted easily to even those who could honestly use the protection.

	I don't know how to go about getting it, but I would suggest
talking with someone who has the status and then going to whomever they
suggest to follow up.  If you find out about what to do, post it!  I'll
be putting up a BBS shortly, and would be interested in this sorta thing
if I can get it.

"Be well..."
  Michael

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~  Michael "Lionman" Hackett		mdh@genco.bungi.com	       ~~
~~  IMPORTANT:  Most Emailers, don't grok my !-path address, therefore ~~
~~  you need to use my id@node address to insure proper delivery!      ~~
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,comp.bbs.misc
From: faf@halcyon.com (Mike from the FAF)
Subject: Problems with PCBoard, Frontdoor, Doors, and X00?
Summary: alt.bbs.crash.crash.crash ;)
Keywords: PCBoard, Frontdoor, X00, crash, BBS
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:21:09 GMT

First, let me describe the system.

I'm running PCBoard 14.5a/2 on an 80386DX 33 MHz with Frontdoor 2.02(?) and
X00 1.24.  I have Adaptec's 2 SCSI drivers (ASPI2DOS.SYS and ASPIDISK.SYS) in
memory, ANSI.SYS, and Hitachi's CD-ROM driver (HITACHIA.SYS).  A good portion
of my files are compressed with PKLITE 1.03, and I use MS-DOS 4.01.

The problem is, the system periodically crashes with the error:

Invalid COMMAND.COM

Cannot load COMMAND, system halted

It does this when exiting doors (especially QuickBASIC doors, but not
exclusively) and when exiting regular programs.

I tried installing a new copy of COMMAND.COM but that didn't seem to help.

Does anyone have a clue what's going on?  This crashing is becoming VERY
annoying.
-- 
faf@faf.org -- Free Access Foundation
Anonymous FTP to halcyon.com and look in /pub/faf for more information.
From: ulf.sandas@compart.fi (Ulf Sandas) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Problems with PCBoard, Fr
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ComPart BBS, Helsinki-Finland, +358 0 506 3329 (14 lines V.32bis)
Reply-To: ulf.sandas@compart.fi (Ulf Sandas) 

MF>From: faf@halcyon.com (Mike from the FAF)
MF>Subject: Problems with PCBoard, Frontdoor, Doors, and X00?
MF>Sender: sso@nwnexus.WA.COM (System Security Officer)
MF>Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:21:09 GMT
MF>
MF>The problem is, the system periodically crashes with the error:
MF>
MF>Invalid COMMAND.COM
MF>
MF>Cannot load COMMAND, system halted
MF>
MF>It does this when exiting doors (especially QuickBASIC doors, but not
MF>exclusively) and when exiting regular programs.
MF>

Check the environment size in config.sys and also the DOS COMSPEC setting 
in autoexec.bat. Check also the amount of free memory after shelling out 
from PCB.

Ulf Sandas
Sysop of ComPart BBS in Helsinki, Finland

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+--------------------------------------------------+
| Helsinki, Finland  -  Number 1 BBS in Finland    |
+--------------------------------------------------+
From: lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca (Jason Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 12:24:22 PST
Organization: TradeNET International Trade Corp.

Well, I have looked at the Canadian laws regarding hacking in it's "let's 
crack this board" sense, and they quite clearly point at a summary 
conviction of 5 years for the majority (things like gaining services 
under false pretences, etc).  Haven't looked at the "let's crack this 
program" type...

                                                Jason Cooper
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From: abolins@visavis.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with PCBoard, Frontdoor, Doors, and X00?
Keywords: PCBoard, Frontdoor, X00, crash, BBS
Date: 25 Dec 92 15:44:08 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

faf@halcyon.com (Mike from the FAF) writes:

> The problem is, the system periodically crashes with the error:
> 
> Invalid COMMAND.COM
> 
> Cannot load COMMAND, system halted
> 
> It does this when exiting doors (especially QuickBASIC doors, but not
> exclusively) and when exiting regular programs.
> 
> Does anyone have a clue what's going on?  This crashing is becoming VERY
> annoying.

The problem could be a anywhere... but FIRST of all please do the
following.

Execute the SET command.  What does it report for COMSPEC= ?

Make sure that your CONFIG.SYS's line:

        shell=c:\mypath\command.com...

...points to the same copy of COMMAND.COM that COMPSPEC= shows.

If not the same then either add:

        set comspec=c:\mypath\command.com

...to your AUTOEXEC.BAT, or change the entry in your CONFIG.SYS to match
the same "mypath".

Hope this helps.



- /|ugust /|bolins -------Happy 1993!-------[ abolins@visavis.cam.org ]---
From: lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca (Jason Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: *** LEGAL HELP WANTED ***
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 12:19:57 PST
Organization: TradeNET International Trade Corp.

> Let me give you some advice: Even if pirated files somehow no longer are a
> concern, you must still unzip the files and check them for viruses. Having
> been a sysop operator for almost 5 years, I will guarrantee you that kids
> will uploads file with viruses.. You count on it, especially if users
> begin to get the idea that you are not checking them. Also, people will
> upload duplicate files under different names, and lots of stuff that just
> plain does not work. 
> 
> In a nutshell, as a BBS operator there is really no way that you can get
> around having to check all the files before they are permitted as
> download. You might as well not have a public file area if you are not
> willing to do that. What many boards do is get lots of fileop volunteers
> who share the responsibility of checking out files.

Hey, you didn't answer the question about SysLaw's ISBN.  You still have 
the book?

Secondly, it's not overly difficult to have a program automatically check 
the MAJORITY of files for virusses, and I can see a program checking for 
duplicates as well.  Looking at the program or unzipping it to check 
virusses and for duplicates is not a HUGE problem.  Looking for a half 
an hour on ONE FILE for evidence that it IS shareware _is_ a problem.  

                                                        Jason Cooper
From: Peter.Kauffman@f102.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Peter Kauffman)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: new
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:51:00 -0100

All,

I am new...

Hello.

My BBS is connected and it's called

ANESTHESIOLOGY.


The area's I am interested in are the scientific medical orientated.


You will hear.....

Bye

Peter

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From: jerry@ee.rochester.edu (Jerry Seward)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.internet,comp.bbs.misc,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: UUCP <==> Hudson
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:09:04 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <F7NcwB1w165w@pes.com> mpearl@pes.com (Mike Pearl) writes:
>
>1)  Is there a program which will handle UUCP transport, and 
>    import/export between a Hudson format message base?  
>    (pref. shareware).

FredGate is a DOS utility that will convert from and to uucp and the *.pkt
format.  Then you can use any tosser/scanner that supports the Hudson
message format.  GEcho, FMail and IMail are good candidates for shareware
tosser/scanners.

The latest version of FredGate, which is still in beta development, is
available at zeus.ieee.org as FRED19N6.ARJ.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
From: coneill@polarbear.rahul.net (Chris O'Neill)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with PCBoard, Frontdoor, Doors, and X00?
Keywords: PCBoard, Frontdoor, X00, crash, BBS
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 01:11:12 CST
Reply-To: coneill@polarbear.rahul.net
Organization: Polar Bear Heaven BBS - Rankin Inlet, NWT

faf@halcyon.com (Mike from the FAF) writes:

> In article <uoDcwB4w165w@pes.com> Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com> writes:
> >My guess is that you don't have enough file handles available... but it
> >could also be your STACKS= or FCBS=... how do you currently have these
> >set in CONFIG.SYS?
>
> Um, I don't...

Add this line to your config.sys...

stacks=0,0

Not sure what the "fcbs=" line should be.  I think I had mine set at
"fcbs=8,16" at one time, but I removed it for some reason.  (Hasn't made a
difference here, that I can see.)

Also, sometimes you'll get a "can't find command.com" error when the beastie
runs out of memory.  I get that if I load a huge file into my editor and then
try to swap out to DOS or do something that requires the editor to spawn.

Hope I've been helpful.  Merry Christmas...

Chris

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Chris O'Neill, System Operator           | "I typed it right...  It's the
Polar Bear Heaven BBS, Rankin Inlet, NWT | !@#$@^ computer that turned it
coneill@polarbear.rahul.net              | backwards!"       - Anonymous
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From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.internet,comp.bbs.misc,comp.mail.misc
Subject: UUCP <==> Hudson
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 13:07:02 EST
Organization: Professional Exchanges Services, Inc.

Two quick questions:

1)  Is there a program which will handle UUCP transport, and 
    import/export between a Hudson format message base?  
    (pref. shareware).

2)  Same question for WildCat BBS messagebase format.

Thanks!

        Michael

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     Michael Pearl      |       Professional Exchange Services
     mpearl@pes.com     |       Bethesda, MD
                        |       (301) 907-0349
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
From: urkastig@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Robert Kastigar)
Subject: QWK mail vs OPX
Followup-To: alt.bbs.ads 
Keywords: QWK, OPX, off-line mail-reader
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 02:24:58 GMT

If anybody is familiar with off-line mail-readers, maybe you can
help me decipher something that has come up.  The only "pakcages"
I am familiar with is the "QWK packet" that I think PCBoard
started and set the standard for many years ago.  This package
can be read by SLMR, OLX, and other off-line mail-readers.  

Recently I called a BBS and they offered off-line mail packaging
too.  I forget what the program was called, but it looked very
similar to Tomcat or Qmail or Markmail.  However, the package
that got delivered to me had the suffix OPX instead of QWK.

Neither SLMR nor OLX could handle this OPX file.  I was able to
PKUNZIP it, and the filenames inside of it strongly resembled the
filesnames in a QWK packet.  But that was the limit; there was no
way I could make heads or tails out of it.

Question #1:  What is the name of a mail-reader I need to use
with this type of package?  Is it available from any of the
popular ftp sites and where?

Question #2: Is there any conversion utility that converts from
one form to the other?  

I run a BBS in Chicago for a local labor union, and we have
formed an echonet with some other union BBS's around the country. 
There is a BBS in Canada that would like to join in with us, but
their system delivers this funny OPX packet, and the rest of us
are using the QWK packages.  For this reason, the conversion
utility would be most useful.  

You can respond by email, and I'll try to summarize any responses
I get.  Or you can respond here directly if you like.  

Bob Kastigar, IBEW Local 1220 BBS, (708) 292-1223 Data
Internet Address urkastig@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu