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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Minister's visit
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:10:54 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

Dear s.c.a. netters,

The Malaysian minister of education, Dr. Sulaiman Daud will be 
visiting New Zealand this May.  He will give a talk to Christchurch 
Malaysian students on the 1st of May, at 8.00am in Malaysia House.  
Everyone who lives in Christchurch is welcomed.  He will give 
another talk in Lincoln University at 11.00am.  

If you do not live in Christchurch and want to present questions to
the minister, please email me with those questions.  Hopefully,
the minister can find time to answer those questions.  I might
post a summary of his speech to the net.

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Dennis Chuah, BE (Elec)    | "One Country,  | Supporting the Malaysian 
Te Whare Wananga O Waitaha | One People." - | Hockey team for gold in 
Aotearoa.                  | Maori proverb. | Barcelona.
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"Pencangkul Matahari" email: chuah@stargate.elec.canterbury.ac.nz



Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: nn9@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nazril  Nordin)
Subject: Re: summer job : malaysians
Reply-To: nm9@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nik MohdNasir>
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:51:23 GMT


Hi...this is regarding my earlier posting about the job with Schlumberger...
I've got quite a few mails from inquiry minds on the net.  So i'll try to 
explain briefly here...
1.  schlumberger is a huge company involved mainly in oil explorations all
    over the world.  Naturally, engineering majors are their major interest
    here...but there are space for other majors, I think.
2.  The address is preferably a permanent one, somethink like the I'national
    student office's or something.  And, the e-mail address is only optional.
    The permanence factor is importance because they want to recruit people not
    only for this year but also for the years to come...so your younger
    friends will have the opportunity too.
3.  I don't have the details as to when they want to start recruiting, and 
    stuff, but I figured that if they have our addresses, they can contact us
    when the time comes, right?

That's about it.  I want to thank all you guys who have shown interest in this
matter, and I will keep accepting addresses until this Thursday, since I want 
to send the list off by the end of this week.


nm9@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu

ore kelate...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Let's spray RAID on roach.
From: slam@eve.wright.edu (Sau Chun Lam)
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:58:39 EST
Organization: Wright State University

In article <1992Apr4.160942.16055@acsu.buffalo.edu> v999s3bz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (---roach---) writes:
> [(can of RAID), spray, spray, spray.....]

>scenario one...
>your ex leader mentioned in your papers that when the japs invaded,
>they had women "service" the troops.
>assuming that singaporeans are normal human beings.
>if a war does come, should singapore let the soldiers
>rape any women as long as it is not singaporean or should
>they recruit women to service the industry????

Hey roach! You need to adjust your compound eyes. You seem to
conveniently extract those facts which fit your purpose. If you had read
the article from which you got this piece of altered, putrid roach food
which you call fact, you would have known that PM Lee was referring to
the brothels run by the Japanese army, for the Japanese army, staffed by
KOREAN women!

So dear roach, let your twisted little mind evolve a little before
posting more of your roach excrement.

Incidentally, PM Lee still runs the show in S'pore but behind the
scenes. You didn't know that? Oh... I though that from your wanderings
in the sewers and long-kangs you should have picked up this little bit
of appetizing roach food! Anyway, I am tossing this piece of roach fact
into the garbage can for you. Hurry! Get it before the sanitation
engineer comes! No need to thank me. See the smileys?
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) .............

>
>this is not meant to hurt any feelings, but it is a 
>fact if war does come.  but if it hurts any feelings,
>tough sh_t.

Oh by the way, dear roach, if this hurts any feelings, tough shit.
Tough roach shit... right????......


SC "Orkin Man" Lam - slam@eve.wright.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: a thought
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:22:00 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

In article <1992Apr9.143532.14435@rice.edu> hanlin@is.rice.edu (HanLin Goh) writes:
>I think if we kept a record of Mr. NorAzizam's outbursts on s.c.a.
>for the past few months, he can kiss all hope of a political future
>goodbye. I for one would sure hate to see him wielding political
>power. After all, didn't he say "let the Malaysian army loose on
>the Chinese"? (And that was one of his nicer moments too)  :)

What makes you think s.c.a. is not archived.  (Take note Zam, if
you value your political future.)  Interesting articles are 
archived for future reference.

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Supporting the Malaysian Hockey team for gold in Barcelona.
From: AKT4423@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU (ATAN, PANGLIMA LAKSA PENANG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Laksa ??? Come to big brother, Eme...
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:46:15 GMT


PENANG LAKSA
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ingredients:	600 gm fresh laksa noodles
		1/2 pineapple, shredded
		1 stalk lettuce, shredded
		1 large onion, sliced fine
		1 cucumber, shredded
		150 gm mint
		1 bunga kantan, sliced fine

		
Gravy:		1 kg ikan kembong
		4 stalks serai, sliced
		1 thumb sized piece turmeric
		1 slice belacan, 1/2 cm thick
		10 stalks daun kesum
		2 tsp sugar
		2 tsp oil
		20 dried chillies, scalded
		8 thin slices lengkuas
		300 gm shallots
		1 bunga kantan halved
		150 gm tamarind for 4 cups juice
		2 tsp salt

Preparation:
Bring 6 cups water to boil. Add 1 tsp salt and cook fish. Remove fish and
ne rempah. Add this to fish stock and bring to boil together with tamarind
juice, sugar, daun kesum and bunga kantan. Bring to boil, add fish meat, oil
and simmer for a further 30 mins before use. The gravy should be kept at a slow
boil for use.

To serve:
Put laksa noodles in a bowl and garnish with cucumber, pineapple, mint, lettuce,
bunga kantan, fresh chillies and onions. Ladle boiling gravy over this and
top with 8.5 scoops of HEIKO - prawn paste for every bowl.
         ^^^
          |--- personal preference-laaaaa!!!

p.s. No glentee if mabuk heiko, ya?

-Penang Goo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ngph@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Peh H. Ng         )
Subject: Re: degree recognition (m'sia)
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:41:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.125933.4656@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.014432.38787@ssf-corp.dhl.com> looi@ssf-corp.dhl.com (Wan Looi) writes:
>>
>>Can someone please explain why diplomas/degrees from TAR Collge,
>>Singapore and Taiwan are not being recognized by the M'sian
>>government? What are the rationals behind it? [Correct me if
>>I'm wrong. That's what I learned while I was still in M'sia]
>
>The rational I heard from JPA is that the graduates from these
>places would not get to work in a govt department anyway, so 
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>why recognise the degrees?

  That is a lame excuse; and what a cop-out!

  Please enlighten me on this one. How much time and money will it 
  cost the government to include a college into their "elite" list 
  of higher institutions with acceptable degrees?
  There are more types of jobs in Msia other then the govt one, aren't there?

 Peh...
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dennis Chuah  | "Pencangkul Matahari"  email:   
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>New Zealand   |  CHUAHDC@ELEC.canterbury.ac.nz         (VAX)
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From: ST101019@brownvm.brown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: The Rahman theory and Zam
Date: 14 Apr 1992 16:24:17 GMT
Organization: Brown University
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Disclaim2: contents of this article.  Please do not sue us!
News-Software: tBRUNO v0.9


I just realised something absolutely, totally horrifying.

Remember someone mentioned the RAHMAN theory of determining the PMs of
Malaysia?

Well, now we are at the M for Mahathir, and the next one will most likely
be A for Anwar.

Do y'all realise something about the N?

Zam's full name is NorAazizam........

Maybe you Chinese Malaysians there had better start finding a second
passport???


Sometimes you just gotta say.....

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  D:::::D     D:::::D   U::::U  U::::U   H::::HH:::::HHH       ???    ?:::?
  D:::::D     D:::::D   U::::U  U::::U   H::::::::::::::HH           ?:::?
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DDD:::::DDDDD:::::D      U::::UU:::::UU  H:::::H     H:::::H
D:::::::::::::::DD       U::::::::::::U  H:::::H     H:::::H        ???
D::::::::::::DDD          UU:::::UU:::U  H:::::H     H:::::H       ??:??
DDDDDDDDDDDDD               UUUUU  UUUU  HHHHHHH     HHHHHHH        ???

Su-Lyn
From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Zam Again!
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:22:18 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr16.154021.11175@husc3.harvard.edu> tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.034044.2999@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>In article <84080@bu.edu> amir@bigbird.bu.edu (Amir Samad) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr12.171032.11421@athena.mit.edu>, zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>>|> In article <1992Apr10.183351.10937@husc3.harvard.edu> tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh) writes:
>>>[deleted]
>>>|> 
>>>|> >Maybe it is time to take on him and debate on him so that he will not be
>>>|> >able to misled others. Luckily, I have many malay friends that are not like
>>>|> >him.
>>>|> 
>>>|> 	We have several of those "Malays" out here too.  They come
>>>|> from rich families and only mingle with the Chinese.  Anyone in Boston
>>>|> want to take a guess?
>>>
>>>Yes! Yes! I'm in Boston and I want to take a guess. Hmmm.... let's see....
>>>I know most of the Malaysians here... but nobody seems to come to mind.
>>>
>>>Tell you what, why don't you start by mentioning a few names... you have
>>>nothing to lose at this point anyway. I'm really curious to know who these
>>>people are.
>>
>>
>>	I am sure you don't know the ones that I am talking about.
>>They have never been to any UMNO meetings, and their fathers are some
>>of the most influential people in Malaysia.  Let's just leave it at
>>that; I am not going to name names.
>>
> People who did not attend UMNO meetings are traitors. What type of logic
>is this? Maybe, they purposely do not want to atteNd  because they do not
>want to associate with people like you. The reason is "you", not because
>their fathers are infuential people in Malaysia. 
>  This clearly shows us that you cannot accept anybody who has different
>thinking from you. The more you try to use dirty tactics to discredit people
>who has different views from you, the deeper you fall. Don't behave like
>a "god". Try to listen and accept others' opinions even there are different
>from yours (just an advice).


	Once again, let me state that UMNO of Boston is not a
political group, but rather a social organization.  The only times
politics were ever discussed (that I can remember) were when YAB Dr.
Mahathir Muhammad, YAB Musa Hitam, YAB Najib Tun Razak visited the
club.  On a normal occasion, the club's objectives are to make the
Malay students in Boston area closer to one another.

===------ 
NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud
From: as5h+@andrew.cmu.edu (Azleena Salleh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Usman Awang's 'Balada Terbunuhnya Beringin Tua ...'
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:25:42 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


In light of the environmental discussion on the net, I thought some of
you netters who still remember their BM(!) would enjoy this poem by our
Malaysia's popular 'penyair' Usman Awang.  He has been a very socially
conscious writer/poet/playwright, whose works have reflected many
socio-economic changes in Malaysia (and internationally) throughout the
decades ... from the 50's and Merdeka, Kennedy's assassination, the May
13th tragedy and throughout the 80's.
His works have been published into English, Chinese, Japanese, French,
Danish,  Italian and Russian, to name a few...

  This particular poem, called 'Balada Terbunuhnya Beringin Tua di
Pinggir Sebuah Bandaraya' (A ballad mourning the murder of an old
beringin tree), was written in 1979, and published by DBP in a book
titled 'Salam Benua' (Greetings to the Continent'.  My apologies to
those who can't understand BM, but if you like, I could provide you with
the translation ...

*********************************************

BALADA TERBUNUHNYA BERINGIN TUA
DI PINGGIR SEBUAH BANADARAYA

Beringin tua di pinggir jalan raya
di sebuah ibu kota yang setengah muda
ratusan tahun usianya berdiri
menadah matari memayungi bumi
burung-burung berterbangan menyanyi
di sini rumah mereka, di sini keluarga bahagia
kupu-kupu berkejaran dalam senda guraunya
anak-anak bermain di keteduhan perdunya.

Tiba-tiba pagi yang hitam itu datang
gergasi teknologi menyerangnya 
dengan kejam membenamkan gigi-gigi besi
sehingga terdengarlah jeritan ngeri
suara Beringin rebah ke bumi.

Sampai sekarang, tiap senjakala lembayung petang
dengarlah suara Beringin mengucapkan pesan:

    Selamat tinggal, selamat tinggal wahai awan
    Selamat tinggal matari selamat tinggal bulan
    Selamat tinggal kupu-kupu sayang
    Selamat tinggal wahai burung-burung bersarang
    Selamat tinggal anak-anak bermain riang

Namaku Beringin pohon tua yang terbuang
dimusuhi oleh rancangan bernama Pembangunan.

*********************************************
From: ze@milton.u.washington.edu (Ze' Magalhaes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Conference on East Timor - Harvard University
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:26:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr16.222605.26071
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


                    Harvard University's
            John F. Kennedy School of Government
                          present
                    an ARGO Forum event:

   ______________________________________________________________
 /                                                                \
|                   MASSACRE IN EAST TIMOR:                        |
|                                                                  |
|           CASE STUDY IN UNITED STATES FOREIGN POLICY             |
 \.______________________________________________________________./

                         - with -

                        Larry Dinger
          US State Department Indonesia Desk Officer

                     Benedict Anderson
Aaron L. Binenkorb Professor of International Studies, Cornell University

                        Allan Nairn
            New Yorker Magazine/ Massacre survivor

                        Amy Goodman
          Pacifica Radio news editor/ Massacre survivor


                       Noam Chomsky
                  Institute Professor, MIT

                     - moderated by -

                       Henry Steiner
          Director of Human Rights Program, Harvard Law


      smuggled video tape of the massacre will be shown


            :       Tuesday, April 21, 1992         :
            :              8:15 pm                  :
            :        Institute of Politics          :
            :           79 JFK Street               :
            :        Cambridge MA 02138             :
            :           (617) 495-1360              :
            :                                       :
            :     free and open to the public       :


                      co-sponsored by:

Harvard Radcliffe Undergraduate Council, Asian American Association,
Harvard College Democrats, Radcliffe Union of Students, Democratic
Socialists of America, Harvard Filipino Forum, Anthropology Club,
Harvard Chapter of Amnesty International, East Timor Action Network/
Rhode Island, Portuguese American, Portuguese Continental Union,
Human Rights Program at Harvard Law School.

   Portuguese Embassy Officials will be in attendence
   Indonesian Embassy Officials have been invited
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: polsak@nuscc.nus.sg (Suzaina Abdul Kadir (Ms))
Subject: Re: Some questions about Abangan...
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:47:09 GMT


I am not an Indonesian but I've done some research,
so maybe this information can help.

Clifford Geertz chose to narrow the Indonesian political 
cultures into two main groups, namely the abangan/priyayi
culture and the santri culture. These terms only actually
emerged when he conducted and concluded his research on
religion in java.

The term 'abangan' today has come to mean nominal muslim.
By this we mean that the abangan culture is syncretic in their
beliefs, with reference to islamic practices. There are strong
Hindu and Javanese inclinations in the abangan practices as
compared to the santri, who are often seen to be more Islamic.

For example, whilst worshipping Allah, abangans also worship Hindu
gods and goddesses like the Batara Kala and the Dewi Seri. 
Perhaps the most important ritual for the abangans is the
Selamatan. This is a feast ritual invoving offerings to the
spirits. For the abangans there are often offerings made
to various spirits and for the various festivals. There is
the offering to the spirits os the seas and even for when they
start on their harvesting in the padi fields.


iThe priyayi culture refers essentially to the bureacratic/
aristocratic class. The culture here is also strongly influenced
by Hindu practices and beliefs.


Hope this helped.


- Suzaina
From: sca-news@slic.cellbio.duke.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Statistics: ADB's Asia growth forecasts
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:00:49 GMT
Originator: jit@slic.cellbio.duke.edu

Forwarded from SEASIA-L
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Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.seasia-l
Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:35:24 PDT
From: Indonesia Publications/Task Force <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      ADB Growth Forecasts
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list SEASIA-L <SEASIA-L@MSU>
Status: OR

    Reuter, Manila, April 10 - The Asian Development Bank (ADB) gave the
following projections for growth in real gross domestic product (GDP)
and inflation for 1992 and 1993 (in pct):

                              GDP             Inflation
                       1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
   NICs                 7.3   7.1   7.1     7.7   7.2   6.6
 Hong Kong              4.0   5.8   6.0    12.3  10.5   8.5
 South Korea            8.3   7.3   7.1     9.7   9.4   8.5
 Singapore              7.0   6.1   7.0     3.4   3.0   3.0
 Taiwan                 7.3   7.5   7.7     3.5   3.4   3.7

                               GDP             Inflation
                       1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
 North Asia             7.0   7.8   7.5     3.0   7.0   6.0
  China                 7.0   7.8   7.5     3.0   7.0   6.0
  Mongolia            -18.0  -6.0  -1.5   130.0  50.0  30.0

                               GDP             Inflation
                        1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
Southeast Asia           5.9   6.7   7.1     8.8   8.1   7.1
   Burma                 3.7   4.0   4.1    28.7  26.0  25.0
   Indonesia             6.4   6.7   7.0     9.2   9.0   8.0
   Laos                  4.0   7.1   5.9    10.4   9.5   9.0
   Malaysia              8.6   8.5   8.0     4.5   5.0   5.0
   Philippines          -1.0   2.8   4.3    17.7  13.0   9.0
   Thailand              7.5   8.0   8.1     5.8   6.0   6.0
   Vietnam               3.8   5.0   4.5    78.9  45.0  20.0

                                GDP             Inflation
                         1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
 South Asia               2.7   4.6   5.0    14.6   8.9   8.3
   Bangladesh             3.3   4.7   5.2     7.4   9.1   9.2
   Bhutan                 3.5   4.0   4.6    11.5  10.5  10.0
   India                  2.0   4.3   4.8    14.4   7.5   7.0
   Nepal                  4.0   3.5   4.0    15.4  16.0  12.0
   Pakistan               6.5   6.7   7.2    12.2   8.0   7.0
   Sri Lanka              5.0   5.9   5.6    12.0  11.0  10.0
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: rtt1@cec1.wustl.edu (Rajan T Thampi)
Subject: Re: Use of 'negro'  (Re: Azizam - Oppressors and the Oppressed)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:28:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.112906.11904@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> vcs_teo@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (VCS Teo) writes:
>In article <2367@news.duke.edu> jit@slic.cellbio.duke.edu writes:
>
>
>>In the US, the terms 'negro' and 'black' are no longer popular because
>>they are politically incorrect.  I.e., you don't call someone based
>>on the color of their skin.
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	What is the politically correct term for the Mat Sallehs then ?
>

	Caucasians.

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