From: cacst9+@pitt.edu (Cecelia A Clancy)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: More on Wiesel
Date: 6 Nov 92 10:25:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: cacst9@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


Recently our MAN from haaaaaa-vaaaaaad sarcastically stated
that I had been working on some secret project with
Wlie Wiesel, to which I responded that I would have difficulty
imagining myself working with Elie Wiesel on anything because
of a quote I had heard attributed to him that allegedly puts
forth some pretty bad anti-Germanic hatred.

I had heard the alleged quote in the IHReview literature, and
if I had heard it ONLY there, then I would have looked upon
it with skeptism.    I had previoulsy though that I had first
heard it from a Pitt professor whom I highly respect, so I
have been, for about the past year and a half, been taking
that quote VERY serioulsy and delt with it by just ignoring
Wiesel, whereever taht was possible.

Then Fein (from still-segregated haaaaaaaa-vaaaaaaaaad) stuck
Wiesel right in my face in a hostile way and I just could not
ignore Wiesel anymore.

So I set out to try to track down just when and where and in
what context he had made that alleged quote.    My search led
me back to the Pitt professor from whom I had thought I had first 
heard of it from.    However, he has no knowledge of such a 
statement from Wiesel.   In fact, he thinks the alleged quote
is entirely fabricated, for the Wiesel he knows is somebody
who is very much in favor of reconcilliation between the Germans
and the Jews and that it would be entirely out of character
for Wiesel to make some virulently anti-Germanic statement.

It is also possible that at some time and at some place, Wiesel
really DID make the alleged statement, but not in keeping with his
overall outlook.   It might also actually appear somewhere in
some piece of his writing, but when read in context does not have
the anti-Germanic meaning it appears to carry when quoted in
isolation.    

It is a common Carto-ist IHReview tactic to take
something a perosn really said, pull it out of context, then put
it in among their own words (on other words, put it in their own
specially-designed context), and thus comming up with a finished 
that makes the origianl speaker/author appear to be saying something
altogether different that he/she REALLY had said or meant.
 
By this tactic, Carto/IHReview has made it, for example, to appear
that Yehudah Bauer is an IHR-type Revisionist, which he is not.
 
And at the recent IHReview Conference, Mark Weber (with Carto's 
knowledge and approval - maybe it was even all Carto's idea)
read protions of a letter I had written to him as he was introducing
one of the speakers.    By such "selective editing", Carto and
Weber totally misrepresented me.     They used my statement for
something I would have never used it myself - to drive more wedges
between people who believe in the Holocaust and people who don't.
Anybody who has been reading my posts for a long time knows that 
I am somebody who wishes to knock out such wedges.    If anybody
who was there at that recent IHReview Conference - to include the
speaker Weber was introducing - wishes to see the FULL TEXT of
my letter to Weber, I would be glad to provide it.   If any of
you attendees read alt.revisionism and see this (or if somebody
else prints is/saves it and shows it to you), I would most encourage
you to contact me by the means cited at the end ot this article. 
This offer, of course, extends to ANYBODY who wishes to see the
full text.   Weber's introduction to that speaker will included
in the tapes of the Conference that will later be offered for sale
to the general public.

So it is quite possible that the first place I had seen 
the alleged Wiesel quote might have been in some IHReview literature
I had been reading at the same time I was taking a class with
the professor I had mentioned several paragraphs above, and thus,
my memory had "mistagged" HIS CLASS as the source instead.  So
now I too an quite speptical and am entirely convinced that that
quote in no way represents the Elie Wiesel of today.   

I have to now publicly apologize to him for unwittingly spreading
the idea (that IHReview so desperately wishes to spread) that
Wiesel is some terrible anti-German bigot.

In searching through my IHReview stuff, I found it said by Tom
Marcellus, the Dummy Director of IHReview (Willis Carto is the
real Director) that Elie Wiesel made that alleged statement
in _Legends of our Time_.   So now I will get myself a copy and
see just what is (and just what is NOT) in there.   IF the alleged
quote really IS in there somewhere, then it is likely to have
a different meaning when read in context than when read in isolation.
The professor mentioned several paragraphs above is familiar with
_Legends of out Time_, so if Wiesel had fully intended anything in
there to be interpreted by his readers in a virulently anti-Germanic
way, that is the way my professor whould have interpreted it - yet
he did not.

My system is scheduled to go down TODAY, so after it goes down, I
will no longer be able to read news or to read/send e-mail.
If anybody wishes to contact me, here is how I can be contacted:

         Cecelia Mu"ller         (412) 682-2798
         P.O. Box 71222
         Pittsburgh, PA 15213
         USA



------"Engineering will protect you." (Mark then to Cecelia)
               "And so it already has." (Cecelia now to Mark)------- 
                  
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               when proven wrong ..." (from the NSPE Code of 
               Ethics for Engineers)--------------------------------

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