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From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: TELECOMMUNICATIONS NETWORK WITH TURKIC REPUBLICS (from Haluk)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:12:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Haluk DEMIRBAG <TEX5HAD@cms1.ucs.leeds.ac.uk
 TELECOMMUNICATIONS NETWORK WITH TURKIC REPUBLICS

 Communications Minister Yasar Topcu who attended the inauguration
 ceremonies of  satellite ground  stations and  telephone exchange
 systems  established  by  the  PTT in  the  Azerbaijani,  Kazakh,
 Kyrgyz, Uzbek and Turkmen capitals, returned home on December 6.

 In  a statement  at  Esenboga Airport,  Topcu  said after  making
 on-the-spot observations in those countries they had decided that
 the   existing  facilities   were   not   sufficient,  and   that
 telecommunication services would be  provided by Turkey. He added
 that after these facilities are installed and put into operation,
 these  republiucs   will  have   telephone  connections   to  200
 countries.

 Yasar Topcu, who said he had the opportunity to view TRT Eurasian
 (Avrasya)  Channel broadcasts  during his  visits to  Kazakhstan,
 Azerbaijan,  Uzbekistan,  Turkmenistan   and  Kyrgyzstan,  added:
 "According   to    protocol   signed    during   my    visit,   a
 telecommunications network to cover  all settlement areas will be
 established in  these republics and technical  assistance will be
 provided. There  are some  difficulties in providing  services to
 these republics  because of the  change of regime, but  I believe
 that they will be overcome with time."

 Topcu,  who pointed  out  that many  countries  are competing  to
 invest in these republics, said that Turkey was highly respected.

 NEWSPOT, December 1992
             _
 |-| /-\ |_ |_| |< {"To all the  Turkish-speaking peoples of the UNIVERSE"
                     Turkish  Ambassador's beginning words of his  address
                     included in Pioneer 10, the first space craft leaving
                     the solar system, 1968}
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: basaran@beach.csulb.edu (Mete)
Subject: Aferin Maestro
Reply-To: basaran@beach.csulb.edu
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:40:08 GMT

Cok iyi gidiyor maestro aynen devam.
Beytullah gibi anasi belli olmayan dinci bozuntularina bu laflarin
az bile. Bu beytullah denen adamin ensest oldugu kesinlesti,ya
anasi ile iliskiye giriyor,ya da babasi ile.
Baksaniza en ufak bir benzerlik yakaladimi nasil da hircinlasiyor.

Yavrum Beytullah, sen bir psikologa gorun,ancak seni o da paklamaz.
mete ulas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,talk.politics.mideast
From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: FYI -- From news.admin.policy
Summary: The debate over the Cosar-Argic-Mutlu tag team 
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:30:29 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.censorship,news.admin.policy
From: clayh@uum1.mn.org (Clayton Haapala)
Subject: Re: [news.admin.policy]  Re: (repost) Serdar Argic FAQ - everything you didn't want to know, but he replied anyway
Organization: UNIX Users of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:01:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.114135.22082@hellgate.utah.edu> galt%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu writes:
>In article <C0938E.rz@cs.uiuc.edu> others wrote:

>>But this will disassociate mn.org from anatolia, which would be a Very
>>Good Thing (tm) for mn.org.
>>

>I have no idea what sort of posts anatolia was making that resulted in
>mailbombs, but dropping a site or even a user because of mailbombs sets
>a bad precedent.  It says that if you don't like what someone says, send
>them a few 20 meg mail messages, and they will never be heard from again.
>If people are going to send big mailbombs, it makes sense to not have
>an email address.

I KNEW it would be tough to get out of this with a white hat!

Anatolia was dropped from MN.Org for a number of reasons, among which was the
impact of the Argic posts on MN.Org, which is a collection of independent
sites, not an organization such as "ibm.com" with a single party line or
point of view.  Not everybody in the world knows that, and there was
a great deal of "guilt by association".  Dropping the site was the right
thing to do because of the nature of this organization.  At another type
of organization, it may not be an option.  UUNet may be that other
type of organization, in fact.

I did go after several mailbombers -- I have no sense of humor about such
a practice.

As to dropping a site just because it attracts a few mailbombs, I have 
thought of an analogy:

Several people decide to get together to buy a boat.  All they can afford
is a canoe.  Another wishes to join the boat cooperative, and the people
say, "Sure. You just need to bring a paddle, and be willing to help portage."
The new guy brings his paddle and portages with the best of them, but every
couple of days he brings a pack with him that swamps the canoe.

The moral is that the new guy needs to find a group with a bigger boat.  The
canoe folks just cannot afford to keep him. 

You will note that, with today's posts to soc.culture.younameit by Argic, that
anatolia is still alive and well, though no longer associated with MN.Org
by the PATH header.

Regards,

-- 
Clayton Haapala (clayh@uum1.mn.org)
Mail Admin for MN.Org


-- 
David Davidian <dbd@urartu.sdpa.org> |"The massacres? Oh well! They merely  
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | amuse me!"  -Talaat Pasha, architect of 
P.O. Box 382761                      | Turkish the genocide of Armenian people. 
Cambridge, MA 02238                  | (Four Years Beneath the Crescent, p 208)
From: enis@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (enis.surensoy)
Subject: Re: Old may freeze!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:44:54 GMT

From article <9301060839.AA04846@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, by trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh):
> 01/03 Sarajevo's Aged To Die Of Cold
> 
>    ZAGREB, Croatia (AP) -- Thousands of elderly people will die in Sarajevo 
> this winter, particularly those already ailing, a U.N. official said Sunday.
>    "Many of the old people over 70 will die, especially those ill with
> arthritis, rheumatism, diabetes, probably some of the babies, as well as


	More Turks/Moslems they kill, more civilized(!) they will be.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: mario@meng.emory.edu (** maestro **)
Subject: MUSLUMAN TURK(IYE) GELENEKLERI VE FATHER CHIRISTMAS
Summary: none
Keywords: none
Reply-To: mario@meng.emory.edu
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:25:29 GMT

>
>Yukarida yanli$ anlamaya meydan vermemek icin bir duzeltme yapmak
>istiyorum. Dini bayramlarda verilir diye bir kaide yoktur derken,
>hristiyanlarin yaptigi $ekilde verilmesi diye bir olay yoktur yani onlar
>hediyeyi verirken hediye bilindigi gibi father christmas dedikleri ki$i

>|Beytullah

Father Christmas ha! Vay kro vay...Yahu adam birde ciddi ciddi birseyler
anlattigini saniyor. Hep soyluyorum, bunlar kultur  seviyeleri ILkokul
Hayat Bilgisi ile Ortaokul Sosyal Bilgiler arasinda sinirli kisiler.
Cehalet pacalarindan akiyor, yerlere bulasmis vaziyette. 
Iste bu sefillerin geleneklerinden bahsediyordum dun, Turk-Islam
sentezi Musluman Turkiye geleneklerinden.

Hani hediye alip vermek gibi gerekli yontulmusluga bile erisemeyen,
kadinli-erkekli, gule-oynaya kutlanmasi gereken bayramlar yerine,
meydan'in  ortasinda,coluk cocugun onunde kor bicakla hayvan kesip 
kan akitan barbarlarin geleneginden.

Kadin'larin nasil ve ne ile dovulecegi kitaplarinda sayi  numarasi ile
belirlenmis,kole'ligi "caiz" sayan, gokten dusen meteorlara tapan ilkellerin, 
kicini yikarken hangi parmaginin hangi boguma gelecegini bile
o "yuce" kitaplarindan ogrenen,40 derece sicakta karisini, bacisini
ziril, ziril terletecek bicimde kapatan, ve kendini o sekilde kapayan
zavallilarin geleneginden.

Father Christmas ha! 
Yahu bunlar ingilizce de bilmiyorlarmis,aynen Turkce de bilmedikleri gibi..

Maestro Can
From: emev02@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Oral)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Din konusunda tartisanlara bir uyari
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:44:09 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <EfIFVTu00WB84EAOk0@andrew.cmu.edu> hk28+@andrew.cmu.edu (Han Kiliccote) writes:

Hemfikir oldugumuz noktalari sildim.

>Godel'in incompletness teorisini okursaniz, hem inandiginiz ve hem de
>yikmaya calistiginiz sistemin "complete" olmadigini fark edersiniz. Bu
>da karsi tarafinin inandiklarina daha yumusak bakmanizi saglayabilir.

Kur'an-i Kerim'i okursaniz Cenab'i Hak'kin inananlar icin secmis
oldugu yasam bicimi olan Islam'i tamamladigini ve mukemmellestirmis
oldugunu gorursunuz.  

Hamid
From: speeo@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr Ercan Otemel 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:35:19 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <C0EApM.586@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut) writes:
|In article <14003.9301051440@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
|>In article <25772.9301042105@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
|>|
|>|Peygamberimizin (SAV) tavsiyesi olan hediye verme guzel bir sunnettir.
|>|Ve dini bayramlarda verilir diye bir kaide yoktur. Ben $ahsen onlarin
|>|ozellikle kutsal diye kabul ettikleri, Allah a (CC) $irk ko$tuklari bu
|>|gunlerde herhangi bir kimseye hediye vermekten (onlara benzememek icin)
|>|bir musluman olarak haya ederim. Tabi buna kar$i cikan olabilir. Herkes
|>|dilediginde serbesttir.
|>|
|>|Beytullah
|>|
|>
|>Yukarida yanli$ anlamaya meydan vermemek icin bir duzeltme yapmak
|>istiyorum. Dini bayramlarda verilir diye bir kaide yoktur derken,
|>hristiyanlarin yaptigi $ekilde verilmesi diye bir olay yoktur yani onlar
|>hediyeyi verirken hediye bilindigi gibi father christmas dedikleri ki$i
|
|Ona  father christmas demezler. Turkiye'de noel baba deneni ingilizceye
|mot-a-mot cevirirseniz oyle olur. Asli ise Santa Claus olacak. Almanlar 
|da Sankt Nikolaus der. 
|

Common Emre be clever, Bir seyi yazmadan once soyle bir dusunmek
gerekli referanslara bakmak gerekmezmi ? Herhangi bir sozlugue
bakabilirsiniz mesela.......!!!!!

|
|
|-- 
|Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
|Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
|Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Saygilarimla

Ercan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: enis@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (enis.surensoy)
Subject: Re: An article on Bosnia from the Chicago Tribune (from Haluk)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:04:41 GMT

From article <9301071041.AA24125@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, by trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh):
>  This article is written by Leslie H. Gelb.
> 
>    Bush administration officials and Western European
>  leaders also tell us that sending 30,000 U.S. forces to
>  Somalia is acceptable, though "merely humanitarian,"
>  because the task there is "easy."
>    On the other hand, they say that applying more force
>  to stop genocide in Bosnia is "too hard" and will draw
>  us into a quagmire.
> 

	Bush the other day said "Leadership cannot be asserted or 
	demanded; it simply is demonstrated". Yet when it comes to 
	save Turks/Moslem from massacre, rape and murder in most 
	horrible ways, he miserably fails to "demostrate" the same 
	leadership he is preaching about.

	By the time they make up their minds, there won't be any 
	Turk/Moslem left to be saved. I wonder if that is what
	their purpose is.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:20:43 GMT

In article <4952.9301061150@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
>|*> Islamdan once hediye vermek nedir kimse bilmiyor muydu yani? Hediye 
>|*> yalniz bir Islam gelenegi midir?
>
>Siz meseleyi aynen Kaya mantigiyla carpitiyorsunuz. Benim burada
>vurgulamak istedigim hediyel$menin bir sunnet olmasi yani dini bir
>ibadet hukmunde te$vik edilmesidir.

Benim amacim konuyu carpitmak degildi. Hediyelesmenin Islam'dan once de
varoldugunu siz kendi sozlerinizle soyluyorsunuz. Islam tesvik ediyorsa,
onceden de vardi demektir.

Kaldi ki, size ( daha dogrusu goruslerinize ) itiraz eden herkesi ayni
kefeye koymaniz da gerekmez. 
-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Where is your non-existent list of scholars, "Visserian"? Here is mine.
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:23:02 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

>In article <visser.726779613@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

>>You are not interested in debate, only propoganda.  You have misrepresented 
>>the views of most of your sources, selectivly quoted others and have used 

>Now a different view of this scene. Here is the compulsive liar. Rather

Well, let's just test your theory shall we?

>genocide, tried to complete its centuries-old policy of annihilation against 
>the Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and deporting 
>an entire people. This event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, 

>Kazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^
Please indicate where Rawlinson says that Armenians murdered 2.5 million
Muslims? The page where the figure is stated would be fine.

>Justin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville.

Please indicate where Prof McCarthy states that Armenians murdered 2.5 million
Muslims?

[Long list of emminent people deleted]

..and of course anyone who was on the net last summer couldn't miss the posting
when David Sternlight telephoned a great many of these historians you say
supports your claim.......and they all said you were nuts.

Non-existant lists?? I thought that's what you posted.

Dave

--
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: MUSLUMAN TURK(IYE) GELENEKLERI (Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri)
From: tuncay <TOZNAL@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 11 Jan 1993 10:46:07 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <9913.9301101850@thor.cf.ac.uk>, spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner
92) says:


>Batiya hep batiya yuruyun, Bok var.

Sayin Beytullah

Adresinize bakilirsa Ingiltere'den yaziyorsunuz.  Orada bulunusunuz
"bok" oldugundan midir?

Benimkisi sadece merak...Neyse, size hos kokulu gunler..

Tuncay
>Beytullah
From: speeo@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr Ercan Otemel 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: MUSLUMAN TURK(IYE) GELENEKLERI (Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri)
Keywords: none
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:50:18 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <C0Ju34.8Js@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut) writes:
|
|
|Benim itirazim inananlara degil. Baskalarini da inanmaya zorlayanlara.
| 


Peki baskalarini inanmamaya zorlayanlara ne demeli ?

Ercan



|-- 
|Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
|Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
|Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:14154 alt.conspiracy:13977
From: vassil@mary-ann.cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Bogomils (was Re: the Schiller Institute tail-ending on the Bosnia issue)
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:12:52 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

Thanks for the clarification. Boy, this can make one hell of an
ice-breaker...;^))

-Vassil
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From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:05:17 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1992Dec29.125124.4597@news.columbia.edu> ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nermin  Eren) writes:
|In article <1992Dec29.115401.23868@ulrik.uio.no> suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci) writes:
|>Bay{an}lar, Turkiye'de duyduguma gore yeni yil kutlanirken
|>insanlar karsilikli hediyeler verirlermis sevdiklerine, dogrumu?
|
|Genellikle dogru. Ozellikle sehirlesmis bolgelerde insanlar sevdiklerine 
|hediye verirler.

Bunun yaygin oldugunu sanmiyorum. Bu tur, yeniyildaki hediye vermenin
Istanbul'un sosyetik kesiminin yogun oldugu yerlerde oldugunu
soyleyebilirsiniz. Fakat tum $ehirlerde yaygin oldugunu soylemek guc.
|
|>
|>Bu aynen hristiyan alemindeki noel bayramini animsatiyor.
|>Noel Isa'nin dogumunu kutluyor. Ben simdi merak ediyorum
|>%96 si musluman olan Turkiye'de isanin dogumunu kutlayanlar
|>bu isi bilincli olarakmi yapiyorlar yoksa 'Avrupali takinmak' icinmi?
|

|Hristiyanlar Hz.Isa'nin dogum gununu 25 Aralikta kutlarlar. Bizimkisi yeni 
|bir yilin baslangicidir. Hz.Isa'nin dogum gunu ile bir alakasi yok. Bazi 
|insanlar buna 'Avrupa ozentisi' diyor. Bizler dini bayramlarimizda da 

Bati aslinda 24-25 aralikta Isa (AS) in dogumu diye kutlamasina ragmen
gercekte Isa (AS) in dogum tarihinin ba$ka tarihte oldugunu kendisi
soyluyor. Yillarca once duydugum kadariyla Almanya da Noel papazi cikmi$
Coca-cola firmasinin da finansmani ile kirmizi beyaz elbiseler
icerisinde gosterilerde bulunmu$ ve daginik halde bulunan tatilleri
birle$tirici rol oynami$tir.


|sevdiklerimize, saydiklarimiza hediyeler veririz. Yalniz yeni yilda degil.
|Lutfen cevaplar buraya, zaten 400'un ustunde okunmamis mail'im var
|

Peygamberimizin (SAV) tavsiyesi olan hediye verme guzel bir sunnettir.
Ve dini bayramlarda verilir diye bir kaide yoktur. Ben $ahsen onlarin
ozellikle kutsal diye kabul ettikleri, Allah a (CC) $irk ko$tuklari bu
gunlerde herhangi bir kimseye hediye vermekten (onlara benzememek icin)
bir musluman olarak haya ederim. Tabi buna kar$i cikan olabilir. Herkes
dilediginde serbesttir.

Beytullah

|Nermin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:23:00 GMT

In article <2315.9301061235@thor.cf.ac.uk> speeo@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr Ercan Otemel 92) writes:
>Common Emre be clever, Bir seyi yazmadan once soyle bir dusunmek
>gerekli referanslara bakmak gerekmezmi ? Herhangi bir sozlugue
>bakabilirsiniz mesela.......!!!!!

Sizin baktiginiz sozluk hangisi? 
-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: speeo@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr Ercan Otemel 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Lutfen Biraz Daha Seviyeli
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:33:03 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1993Jan11.032618.20725@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus) writes:
|Net'te kimin kimin annesini nerede gordugunu okumak artik bayginlik
|vermeye basladi.  Birtakim provokasyonlar oldugu dogru, fakat
|provokasyona cevap veren arkadaslara bir ricam var, lutfen karsinizda
|yalnizca annenize kufreden insanlarin degil, hayatinda Turkiye'de
|duymadigi sozleri Amerika Birlesik Devlet'lerinde netten okuyan
|insanlar oldugunu unutmayin.  Provokasyona cevap vermek insani yalnizca
|cevap verdigi insanin muhatabi kilar, esas takdir edilecek olan
|provokasyona cevap vermeyip sogukkanliligini ve efendiligini her zaman
|muhafaza edebilendir.  Aksi takdirde maalesef ben ve tahminim odur ki
|digerleri artik bu newsgroup'u okumaya tahammul edemeyecegiz.  
|
|Ben kimseye hakarete karsilik vermeyin demiyorum.  Dedigim eger hakarete
|sogukkanlilikla cevap vermeyi basarabiliyorsaniz, gercekten takdire
|sayansiniz.  


Size cani gonulden katiliyorum. Bu seviyesiz insanlara cevap
vermeyecegim. BEN kimseye kufur etmedim. Provokasyona gelmemek
icinde bana sogen kisiyle yuz yuze konusmayi tavsiye ettim.
Cevabini bekliyorum. Eger boyle tatsizliklara ben sebeb olduysam
ozur dilerim. Bakiniz herkesten once kufur edenleri kim olursa
olsun protesto ettim.  Sizinlede boyle bir tartismamiz olmustu.
Hic bir problem olmadan sonuclandi. Birseyler ortaya cikmasi 
gerekmez. Siz benim verdigim mesaji bende sizinkini almis oldum.
       


Saygilarimla

Ercan

|
|Saygilarimla,
|Deniz Akkus
|
|PS. Madem burasi soc.culture.turkish, ben hakkinda uzun zaman pek bir
|sey bilmedigim, sonunda uzerinde bir kac kitap okudugum Turk Sanat
|Muzigi sistemi hakkinda bazi yazilar yazacagim.  Umarim benden daha
|bilgili arkadaslar katilirlar, surci lisan edeceksek, affola.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.jewish
From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
Subject: Re: Jesus: Would he support the Turks or Armenians?
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 04:27:48 GMT

My killfile includes "Davidian, Mutlu, Argic, Mutlu,
and talk.politics.*"  The post asking for Mr. Buchar's
opinion on this subject was the Usenet equivalent of
giving him a green jacket, an orange jacket, and 
an invitation to visit Belfast.

The point is that neither Jesus nor the Turkish-Armenian feud
are appropriate topics for the "soc.culture.jewish."

( BTW, have you considered creating an altnet newsgroup
  "alt.politics.turkey-armenia" to house the dispute? )

R

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