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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:02:02 -0500
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From:         SKIPPER@MEDCOLPA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Info needed on CSLG and other TEI changes

Add me to the list of those who NEED more information on this
same issue.  I also have had to put purchasing decisions on hold
or seek other vendors.

I was at the recent DECUS and while I didn't get to attend the
actual session where these announcements were made, I spoke with
a couple of people who did.  They said that there would be a new
Educational price list and TEI members would get an additional 7%
discount.  Is this true?  Not for sure.

Please, please Digital, relay this information to use.  If anyone
knows about this, I'm sure it is Ellen Minter.  She has always been
up to date on the TEI issues.  Ellen, can you help here?

/tom

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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:35:08 -0500
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From:         S30611@SIENA.BITNET
Subject:      wiz7

 I know I asked about this yesterday but I haven't gotten any feed back
and really need to get past this. I can't access a few gates in Orkogre
castle, where do I find these keys? i've been everywhere and can't find any
secret doors. What did I miss?

Please help,
Mark Garwatoski
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:42:37 +0100
Reply-To:     Anders Wahlin <andersw@VINGA.HUM.GU.SE>
From:         Anders Wahlin <andersw@VINGA.HUM.GU.SE>
Subject:      Arj

Yo!

I'm trying to be friend with the ARJ.exe program. Somebody told me that I
also can use it to extaract .zip and.zoo files, is that true.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:47:16 -0600
Reply-To:     "M. Scott Hoppe OTC - 203 D. Boyd" <msh@TE6000.OTC.LSU.EDU>
From:         "M. Scott Hoppe OTC - 203 D. Boyd" <msh@TE6000.OTC.LSU.EDU>
Subject:      Wiz7 Question...

Anyone find out what the munk innards are for?

While I'm at it, where can I find the solution to the imp head puzzle?
(what is the solution?)

     <:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:>\|/<:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:>

            msh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu                  -=( Scott )=-

     <:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:>/|\<:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:><:=--=:>

                    Speak softly and carry a +7 BattleAxe!

      _\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/_

                        Note: One Planet is all you get.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:24:27 -0400
Reply-To:     Louis Jezsik <jezsik@PX4.STFX.CA>
From:         Louis Jezsik <jezsik@PX4.STFX.CA>
Subject:      Dune II????

>At the end of Dune, there's a screen that says "Coming soon:  Dune II"
>Has anyone heard anything?
Yup, there is a review in one of the game mags.  Whe I first heard
of it, I couldn't wait to get it.  It was supposed to be a type of
war-game.  The review leads me to believe otherwise.
Louis
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:53:13 EST
Reply-To:     tpham@TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL
From:         tpham@TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL
Subject: [ANS] wiz7

Hi,
   If you managed tto defeat the guys down on the barracks level, the you shoul;
d have two keys (armoury and crown).  The armoury key opens the gate down at
the same level.  Some good weapons and armor as well as munk meat and innards.
the crown key opens the gate on the first level down the other hallway.
                                                      Tony
From: hardgrov@pilot.njin.net (Roy Hardgrove)
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Subject: WIZ 7 Help Needed!!!!!!
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:12:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi:

I am playing Crusaders of the Dark Savant and am having a bit of
trouble.  Most of my trouble seems to emanate from a lack of keys--or
at least the correct keys.  In the first town of New City (Old City)
there are two buildings that I can not figure out how to get into.
One of them has a Device that accepts a Key Card but when it is
inserted I am attacked.  The second problem is the T'RANG house.  How
do you get in there?  Also the museum has me stumped.  I have gotten
inside and have obtained the Rebus Egge (whatever that is) but can't
seem to figure anything else out.  Further there is a pesky weapons
dealer who won't let me explore his building.  How to I get past this?

Now onto Orkogre Castle.  How do you open the other locked doors.  I
have found the crown key, the armoury, and the place where the
magician was killed (also the gorilla) but I am stuck.  No keys, and I
believe I have looked and searched everywhere.  HELP!!!!

If someone out there is able to assist me with these problems, and any
other info you would like to part with, I would be grateful.


Thanks,

Roy F. Hardgrove
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:45:54 MST
Reply-To:     "Ken Rojas 490-8326 (303)" <kenr@GPSRV1.GPSR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
From:         "Ken Rojas 490-8326 (303)" <kenr@GPSRV1.GPSR.COLOSTATE.EDU>

list
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Reply-To:     Wildstar <BURRCE@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU>
From:         Wildstar <BURRCE@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU>
Subject:      S101 HELP

Could anyone answer these questions for S101 for me?

        1. Your ID number
        2. Your Health Score
        3. Your Teacher's Name
Thanks
  Wildstar
  BURRCE@UWEC.EDU
From: STUP092@SAUPM00.BITNET (Zaki)
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Subject: KQ5 help!!!
Date: 12 Dec 92 09:09:53 GMT
Reply-To: Zaki <STUP092@SAUPM00.BITNET>
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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Hi,

   What I will do with the wand.
Zaki.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:30:42 -0600
Reply-To:     Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: RE: Space problems

Scott,
        That was a great post on HD compression.  I never did understand how
those darn things worked.  Do you know of a resource I could refer to to lead
me by the hand and tell me how to write the ARJing batch file you recommended?
        I'll use 'em but I can't write 'em, & your's strikes me as a great
money-saving technique.
                                                Impressedly,
                                                        Alex
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:18:08 CST
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From:         millerm@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
Subject:      Drop threads

  Please drop both the VCL and flame threads.  THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT!
And if you 2 want to fight, send the mail between you 2.  THANKS AGAIN.   M&M's
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:57:02 MDT
Reply-To:     "B. Cloutier" <626025@UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA>
From:         "B. Cloutier" <626025@UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA>
Subject:      Spellcasting 101, 201 and 301

FROM: B. Cloutier
'

Spellcasting 101:
     How can I use the surfboard; its still stuck to the wall.

Spellcasting 201 and 301:
     Does anybody have these for sale. (legal copies only, manual included)

Thank you for your help.

'
'
'
From: cej0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES EDWARD JAMES)
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Subject: EOB I quest helps?
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:12:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I remember seeing a list of EOB I helps for the quests on here a while ago,
but I can't find it.  If someone has it could they please e-mail it to me.

Thanks
-- 
Charles James
Lehigh University
CEJ0@Lehigh.EDU
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What eeees it????  You fat bloated sack of protoplasm!!!!
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:40:15 CET
Reply-To:     Dag Ulstein <SIV89012@NOBIVM.BITNET>
From:         Dag Ulstein <SIV89012@NOBIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Brains?
              8 Dec 92 11:23:12 -0500 from <99zalews@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU>

On Tue, 8 Dec 92 11:23:12 -0500 The Z said:
>In regards to the FBI stuff...I got this "news byte" off of Pridigy....
>  Tough New Law Deters Software Piracy
>  From PC Week, December 7, 1992
>  One month after President Bush signed a bill that makes
>  software pirating a felony instead of a misdemeanor,
>  lawbreakers are running for cover.
>  Pirates who copy and distribute software on electronic
>  bulletin boards--accounting for the lion's share of an
>  estimated $1.2 billion loss last year in the United
>  States--beat a rapid retreat since the bill became law last
>  month, according to representatives for the Business
>  Software Alliance and the Software Publishers Association
>  (SPA), 2 Washington groups that monitor the problem.
>  Small Wonder
>  Those pirates now face possible fines that are up to 10
>   bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bal
>-----
>
>"What Kind of People are we?" - JTK
>
>Les Zalewski (99zalews@lab.cc.wmich.edu)
BLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLA
How about mindig your own business
If we like to make a copy it's not your problem


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Subject:      front page sports football : sierra

I just bought this games for my 386-16 with 2 RAM
I have  a VGA monitor and it only requires a VGA card.
For some reason I keep getting a "cannot initialize graphics" error
???????? any idea why???

morrison
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Reply-To:     Bob Findlay <"\"FINDLAY\""@JII.AFRC.AC.UK>
From:         Bob Findlay <"\"FINDLAY\""@JII.AFRC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: cracks and stinks and pirates

personally my favourite passtime used to be BUYING a game on tape, and then
cracking the protection so I could put it on disk - generally, I had much
more enjoyment out of cracking the game than playing it

(just my $0.02 worth)
Bob
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:34:00 EST
Reply-To:     Chris Ward <CWARD@OPIE.BGSU.EDU>
From:         Chris Ward <CWARD@OPIE.BGSU.EDU>
Subject:      Racing Games

I love racing games but for the most part if you have
played one you have played them all.  This is not the
case with Micro Machine Racing for the Nintendo
Entertainment System.  You race Micro Machines (toy car
for kids like Match Box Cars or Hot Wheels) over
furniture.  A boat race in the bath tub, look out for
the rubber duck!  A sports car race over desks at
school, jump from desk to desk by ramping a math
textbook.  Does anyone know of any other games like
this, for any system, any demos on the net?  Has anyone
seen Micro Machine Racing for any system besides the
Nintendo Entertainment system?

Thank You, CWARD
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From:         ICEMAN@BRUFPB2.BITNET
Subject:      Star Trek the 25th Anniversary

Anyone help me with Star Trek the 25th Anniversary, the first part the "Demon W
orld" at the control panel of the cave.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:58:22 CST
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From:         Gary Jarrell <C604441@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Dune II question

If I remember correctly, Dune I is made by Virgin as well.  Not for sure
about Dune II.  Gary Jarrell.  PS anyone heard good or bad about Dune II.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi,

I've heard this game would be out indeed , but there's something I'm
quite curious about . Dune was a Cyro production (a French company,
from what I heard) whereas Dune II is a game from Virgin . How come
Cyro would be making publicity for a Virgin game ? I could be mista -
king about Dune II being a Virgin game , but I'm sure Dune is from
Cyro . If anyone knows anything else about this, please let me know .

          Lord Helmet (SPEEDY@LAND.RUG.AC.BE)
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From:         HERMES_EM@MCCHORD-LOGNET.AF.MIL
Subject:      geoworks

there is a geoworks list
write to:  PCGEOS-LIST@pandora.sf.ca.us
with body of e-mail:  SUBSCRIBE PCGEOS-LIST Your Name
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:47:12 EST
Reply-To:     EDDIE BROWN <Z$2@FCCJ.BITNET>
From:         EDDIE BROWN <Z$2@FCCJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Mud List!!

can someone send me the list of muds??

Thank you!!!
Eddie
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Reply-To:     Gregory C Bonawitz <bonawitz@EMBA.UVM.EDU>
From:         Gregory C Bonawitz <bonawitz@EMBA.UVM.EDU>
Subject:      the bat

>
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>
> "HAVE NO FEAR CAUSE BATMAN'S HERE......""""
>
>  Another member of The BatSign Board (TM)
> Martin M. Pedersen, Aarhus University, Aarhus
> Internet address: tusk@daimi.aau.dk

Personally, I liked the bat a lot - I wish I knew how to put something
like it on the end of my postings.  And yes, it did get lose a little of it's
luster after seeing it so much, but I wouldn't say anything because it's
not an important matter in my life.  I just hope now that the others that seem
to be using it
now are doing so b/c they don't have something more original (at the
moment) and are not doing it to "subliminally" flame the people who are
tired of it.

At least put the bat in a different position.   8-)

Greg


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How's my bat???  8-)
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From:         VDRONGELEN@NICI.KUN.NL
Subject:      Re: Piracy and virusus: Something NEW.

Hi,

Copy protection virus supported!? It is both possible and impossible.. I
think it was a year or two ago that a company actually put a virus in its
software, which activated after the program was copied a number of times
(some may remember the name of the program: It was a Mac-emulator for
Atari). So yes, it is possible. But these viruses are of course easily
traceable, so the company got of real bad! I don't think that, under the
present legislation, any other company will try this. The punch line is:
have no fear, 'cause the Fed's are here! :-)

ok, this was was clearly a post I should have made to virus-l, but I
did not want any of you to get real scared when deprotecting your
legally purchased disks.

And now for something more general (still not games related): Could we
please keep the discussions on an adult level? Some are acting like
plain animals when they get on the net. I see it on IRC, on the BITNET
Relays, and now its happening on the LISTSERV too. Come on, just because
you're not face to face in the discussion you don't have to drop all
of your manners, do you? Mind your words.

One word to the owner of this list: The beatiful thing about games-l
is that it's not strictly limited to discussing games, but that all
kind of more or less related topics are suitable, this keeps the list
vivid. But if you let some of the discussions go too far (and you know
what I mean when you monitored the list the last couple of days), things
are -in my opinion- getting out of hand. I'd really like you to play
'watchdog' at some moments, act when people break some of the (implicit)
Games-l codes...

GAMES-related: Thank y'all for the EOB tips. It's been a great help, I
got all the skeletons now. I may need your help pretty soon again, but
I'll try to figure it out by myself this weekend (has to do with unstable
walls...)

All for now (gotten quite long actually. phew!)

-Albert
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:04:46 -0700
Reply-To:     Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
From:         Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Space problems

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992, M. Scott Hoppe OTC - 203 D. Boyd wrote:

> The basic problem of 'on-the-fly-compression' is a program that wants to
> write directly to the HD.  Some cache programs (like Windows Smartdrv.exe)
> do this.  Results can be VERY strange.  I've played with smartdrv.exe with
> Stacker and SuperStor to see what would happen.  The most frequently
> occurring problem was infinite subdirectories -- each subdirectory off of
> the root directory on the compressed drive pointed to itself.  You could
> cd 6 or 7 times to the same directory, and would not be told of an error.
> It's very strange to see your $p$g prompt look like:

        I use smartdrv 4.0 with write cashing enabled to my two stack
drives, but I have never had this problem, or any other.  How did you
cause this?  (Note:  I did not use the swapdrv util.  Perhaps that is
where the problem lies?)

                                -Ken
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Reply-To:     MMARSHAL <mmarshal@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
From:         MMARSHAL <mmarshal@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re[2]: You people stink |||||

>Posted on 16 Dec 1992 at 13:24:40 by Joern-Morten Innselset
>
>Re: You people stink |||||
>
>On Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:06:49 CET Louis Jezsik said:
>>  I have now been subs. to the list for some time, and I have reached one
>>  conclusion. YOU PEOPLE STINK |||. You are unpolite and wouldn't help
>>  people with trouble. All you can think of is getting a new crack for
>>  the newest game you illegally copied. I don't want to have anything more
>>  to do with any of you. As I said you ppl stink.  There is a law against
>>  making copies of commercial games, if you didn't know, and if I see any
>>
>>  Louis.
>
> Wow| Chill down...

Well, but he was right!  I am also angry about all those assholes that
make illegal copies!  They are the reason why we have to pay more than
40 bucks for a decent game.  I am tired of those fucking parasites that
take advantage of us honest game buyers.

                                                               Chainsaw

     I would like to make a couple of points:
     1) I am not offended by this type of language, but there are people here
who are, so please restrain yourself.

     2) You are correct when you said that the price of a decent game is
outrageous. But That is not the fault of hackers. They say that so they can
keep on charging what they want for them. I don't condone the illegal
distribution of software, But the fault must be placed with the manufactures of
the games.

     3) As I said, I don't condone software pirating, But if someone buys a
game, then they can blow the security off of it if they want to, so long as
they do not give or sell the game to anyone else. It is my understanding that
that is what most of the people here are doing. I am sure there are those who
are doing it for other reasons,but not everybody. So lighten up!

                         Michael C. Marshall

                   MMARSHAL@IUSMAIL.IUS.INDIANA.EDU

                  "Sire! The peasants are revolting!
                   You said it, they stink on ice!"

                                  Louis XVI


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