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From: chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers)
Subject: Re: Blowin' it in the wind...
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:47:22 GMT

In article <Dg50wB2w165w@clovis.felton.ca.us> tcbowden@clovis.felton.ca.us (Timothy Bowden) writes:

>All in all, it would appear more myth than reality and
>certainly more romance than research goes into the antic
>anthems of our own blue-eyed hip Homer.  I begin to think
>maybe Hattie Carroll had it coming...

The song "John Wesley Harding" is laced with a large degree of
irony.  It's a song with no core about a shadow, a man with no core.
A deliberately empty song, showing up something empty about the
tradition, with a deep underlying ambivalence.  One could argue forever
about exactly what Dylan was trying to do with this song, but a
straight reading is surely mistaken.

-- 
Dave Chalmers                            (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu)      
Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University.
"It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable."
From: michel@netcom.com (Steve Michel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Convention info wanted
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:55:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

michaud@cdsmn.mn.org (Jeff Michaud) writes:



>Could someone please repost or email me the information on the upcoming
>Dylan convention?  It got expired before I saved it.

>Thanks,

>Jeff
>-- 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jeff Michaud         | Dicomed, Inc         |  All Rights Reserved,
>michaud@cdsmn.mn.org | 11401 Rupp Drive     |      
>+1.612.895.3000      | Burnsville, MN 55337 |          All Wrongs Reversed

Jeff,

The convention is called "Down Along the Cove," will be held near Seattle
on Apr 2-4. Drop a note to Steve Farowich (can't find his address now) or
call (206) 643-9400 for details.

Steve
From: ny2@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Who's Dylan playing with on this tour?
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:58:57 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Hey there,

I was glad to come back to London from holiday and see that 3 dates in Feb.
were announced for Dylan at the Odeon H'Smith.

Can someone please tell me who he's playing with?  Who's in his band?

Thank you!

Brad 

Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: CSMSAXS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSAXS (Arnie Stodolsky))
Subject: Dylan & High Times
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:12:32 PST

Just picked up the February 1993 issue of High Times with Dylan on the
cover.  The article, Bringing It Back to Bob, is quite good, IMHO.
About 12 pages with lots of pictures; good review of Bobfest and a few
Bob stories that I didn't know.

Here's a great sentence from the article:
There are several regualarly published fanzines on both sides of the
Atlantic that record every Dylan fact, untruth and piece of trivia;
not to mention the 24 hour telephone hotline to catch the latest Dylan
news, the mail order catalog of overpriced memorabilia and
(here it comes)
the online computer service on which cyberDylanists can argue back
and forth about the true meaning of their favorite lyric.

So now we have a name for ourselves - cyberDylanists.  I just love it.
BTW, is there an online computer service for cyberDylanists that I
don't know about, or is this just a misnomer for r.m.d.?
The centerfold, rather than a picture of the bud of the month, is a
psychedelic poster of Dylan with the caption, Rainy Day Women #12 & 35.

Again, I highly recommend this to collectors.
Arnie
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: GBT
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:11:23 GMT
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: Christian Ullsperger's message of 9 Jan 1993 19:51:04 GMT

In article <1inab8$l8m@agate.berkeley.edu> Christian Ullsperger <ullsperg@mendel.berk.edu> writes:
   >20. I'm Not There (1956) - originally released on BBG

   What does the date in parentheses mean?


I don't know, but the name is always given this way.

   Does the better-than-BBG&theH's
   sound quality
   enable one to hear more of the lyrics?


Not really. GBT is only better because the BBG pressings were so poor.
I wouldn't be surprised if the two were taken from the same source
tape. 

My impression is that at least some of these lyrics are improvised
nonsense, ala Santa Fe.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: tim@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (Tim Roberts)
Subject: address for dylan ?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:55:47 GMT

Can anyone give me answers to these two questions ?  Any help would be
appreciated.

1)  What's the best address to write to to get something to Dylan ?

2)  What are the chances (infinitessimally small, etc) of any mail written to
this address actually being read by him ?

Thanks.

Tim

Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: jukebox dylan
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 17:47:12 GMT


forgive me if this seems like i havent been out and about that much,
but i was getting some pizza for my kids over the weekend and stopped
at Pizza Hut.  while waiting i noticed a compact disk jukebox.  what
really knocked me out was that it had the entire Blonde On Blonde CD
available.  it was basically 3 tracks for a dollar.  imagine hearing
Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands on a jukebox at a pizza joint!  this was
also in the relative boonies of Fitchburg, Mass.  a long time ago when
i was in the village in NYC i saw a juke box with 30% dylan on it, but
nothing like this - an 11+ minute song?  alas, we were in a hurry and
ordered to go.  so i didnt get to see what curious effects there may
have been in the customers seated there....

- nate
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Genuine Basement Tapes
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:26:42
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: Christian Ullsperger's message of 31 Dec 1992 21:52:31 GMT

I've gotten a lot of mail about the GBT series, so maybe I should
clarify one point. I said that the sound quality on these was the best
I'd heard. In the case of the songs that previously appeared only on
the Blind Boy Grunt & The Hawks lps, this is unquestionably true,
since the latter were such awful pressings. 

But as far as the released tracks go, it's really just an opinion. I
prefer the undoctored versions that appear on GBT, even when they have
a fair amount of hiss etc; I think Columbia blew it when they tried to
clean up the sound for the official Basement Tapes record. But that's
purely mho. Yours may differ - listen before you buy.

rs
From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Krogsgaard and listing etiquette for Stacey
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:02:36 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <9301061507.AA08956@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> RCJ@AUTOMATION.UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK writes:
>                        __________________
>                      _/ ||                ~-_
>                    ,/   //       /~-       /  ~-_  ________---------------//
>  -----------------------------------\-------------------____________  __//
> O--------------                  ~~^ |                                 | ~|
> }======{--------\____________________|______________________________   |  |
> \===== / /~~~\ \ \                   |         ________________________|-~
>  \----|  \___/ ||--------------------'----------|  \____/ //
>        `______''                                 `_______'
>
>                  Nice car to drive, after a war

.............[amazing deleted].......

>shall we play, [014.19] sounds good to me....
>Craig Jamieson
>University of Cambridge

i really enjoyed wading through all this, Craig.  lets hope Stacey
didnt dissappear under the wheels.

:-)

- nate
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: vuyk@let.rug.nl (W. Vuijk)
Subject: GAIBTY single?
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:35:11 GMT


Does anybody know if Columbia released or will release a single cd 
containing some GAIBTY songs? In Holland (and Europe?) there seem to be no 
plans to do so, maybe someone has info on what will happen in the US.
BTW, in Holland the GAIBTY cd is a good selling Dylan cd, it  
appeared in the cd top 50 in december (at no. 42). How is he doing in the 
rest of the world?

Wim Vuijk
Vuyk@let.rug.nl
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: If I Had Wings 1962 C Arnie Richard Hootenany
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:08:24
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM's message of 5 Jan 1993 16:23:13 GMT

In article <1icclhINNi07@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
   One of Dylan's friends and influences in his early New York years
   was Dave Van Ronk. I have a version by Dave of this one and he
   calls it "Dink's Song". 



On the tape, Dylan says something like (I paraphrase) "I don't know
what it's called; I learned it from lady named Dink." For whatever
it's worth...
From: robo@oregon.uoregon.edu (O'Neill, Rob)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: some new boot-CDs
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:41:28 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: robo.uoregon.edu

In article <C0M73E.D77@eis.calstate.edu> lcornel@eis.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio) writes:

>hey, if someone is willing to make me a copy of ANY of these from CD, I'd
>be willing to pay...

>thanks!        louis   lcornel@eis.calstate.edu
> Me too!!!! roneill@oregon.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: CSMSAXS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSAXS (Arnie Stodolsky))
Subject: Re: Krogsgaard
Date: 6 Jan 93 09:27:53 PST

In article <1id9cgINNqv1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, on 6 Jan 1993 00:33:20 GMT,
co273@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacy Tartar) writes:

>
>
>Please excuse my ignorance, but what is this Krogsgaard source that many of
>you keep referring to?
>
At a local swap meet a vendor sells copies (read boot) of this book
for $20 - $25 (vs $55 list).  Very nice, spiral bound.  This allows
one to keep their original Krogsgaard in mint condition while using
the other as a working reference.  I mark up my copy to reflect my
collection, highlight certain items (cover songs), etc.

If RMD readers are interested in getting copies of this or related
material, please e-mail me.

They also copy other out-of-print books that are Dylan related.  Some
titles are Heylin Clinton's Stolen Moments, Rain Unraveled Tales,
reprints of early Dylan fanzines.

At last month's meet, Clinton Heylin was there.  Interestingly enough
when he saw the copies of his books he was not disturbed in the least.
In fact, he autographed several copies.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: michel@netcom.com (Steve Michel)
Subject: Re: Krogsgaard
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:54:04 GMT

co273@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacy Tartar) writes:


>Please excuse my ignorance, but what is this Krogsgaard source that many of 
>you keep referring to?

>-- 
>Stacy Tartar
>co273@cleveland.freenet.edu

Stacy,

Everybody else told you _what_ Krogsgaard is, but nobody said where to get it.
The best source for this book -- & all things Dylan -- is Rolling Tomes 
a Dylan mail order service. You can reach them at 303-245-4315. They're in Grand
Junction Colorado.

They also publish my own "Bob Dylan Concordance."

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes)
Subject: Re: Subterranean Homesick Blues CD (Sony)
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:25:02 GMT

There was a time that we were wondering what the hell the album
"Bringing it all back home" was!


-- 
  +---------------------+ 
  |    Maurice Maes     |    
  | maes@prl.philips.nl |   
  +---------------------+ 
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: torb@stud.cs.uit.no (Tor Berger)
Subject: Re: Subterranean Homesick Blues CD (Sony)
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:56:38 GMT

In article <9301111410.AA21176@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, RCJ@AUTOMATION.UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK writes:
|> 
|> I have  seen  two  CDs  advertised  with  titles  previously
|> unfamiliar to me as CDs or LPs. From the price I assume them
|> to be ordinary length CDs. They are from Germany.
|> 
|> All I Really Want To Do / Bob Dylan (Trubach)
|> 
|> Subterranean Homesick Blues / Bob Dylan (Sony)
|> 
|> Presumably the former is the same as the legitimate release:
|> All I  Really Want  To Do  - Duchesse  CD 352066 (1989). And
|> presumably it contains nothing new to collectors.
|> 
|> What is the second one though?
|> 
|>                                               Craig Jamieson
|>                                      University of Cambridge


The second one is 'Bringing it all back home'. For some strange reason the 
European version is called SHB.

Tor Berger 
University of Tromsoe, Norway
From: gerkepott@espel.picker.de
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: New Morning GLR 9120 9121 Where? When?
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:28:52 MET
Organization: Picker International GmbH, Espelkamp

In article <9301061811.AA15491@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, RCJ@AUTOMATION.UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK writes:
> 
> New Morning / Bob Dylan [1991]
> 2 CDs
> Great Live Records GLR 9120 9121
> 1991
> GEMA I.C.P.
> "Recorded live in concert 1991"
> 

first 18 tracks are Essen 91, rest is Bad Mergentheim 91 (Germany)

Heinrich
From: "marc polcek" <marc.polcek@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: dylan
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:49:04 EST
Reply-To: "marc polcek" <marc.polcek@execnet.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Executive Networks Information

LINDA AND MARC LOVE, WORSHIP AND ADORE BOBBY Z AND EVERYTHING HE HAS
EVER TOUCHED, INCLUDING SILVERWARE, SHOES AND CIGARETTES.K
--
Executive Network Information System  (914) 667-4567
International ILink Host
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: pwssab@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Pws Sablime Login)
Subject: Re: TV talk again
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:10:02 GMT

howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:

>vuyk@let.rug.nl (W. Vuijk) writes:

><"In order to drive home the theme of "An American reunion" a
><multi cultural cast of musicians is being assembled to play at
><the inaugural gala for President-elect Bill Clinton later this
><month.

><Reggea band Steel Pulse and forty-something favourites like
><Bob Dylan, Elton John and Fleetwood Mac will be joined by Los
> ^^^^^^^^^

>I hadn't heard this at all. Can anyone confirm this???? Seems very
>unlikely to me.

>--
>                                        John Howells
>                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
>                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov

I've seen it mentioned in a local newspaper in their daily kind of a
news tidbits column and filed it for future reference. Since I hadn't
heard anything else, I thought "probably not". But one can always hope.
Check those TV Guide listings!

Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: Alan Robock <alan@atmos.umd.edu>
Subject: This is for Ken Olstad
Reply-To: alan@atmos.umd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:43:16 GMT

Dear Ken,
	Thanks so much for the magazine article about Peter Himmelman.
I erased your messages and didn't record your email address.
			Peace,  Alan Robock
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: paster@dna.lth.se (Christian S. Collberg)
Subject: Words/music for Brownsville Girl?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Lund University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:28:17 GMT

Could someone please send me the lyrics for Brownsville Girl?
Chords would be nice too, of course.

Chris

-- 
Christian.Collberg@dna.lth.se
Department of Computer Science, Lund University, BOX 118, S-221 00 LUND, Sweden
From: u6404646@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Bob's book for trade
Date: 13 Jan 93 16:12:22 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne


I have a paperback (panther books) edition of Tarantula that I don't want.
I will trade it for just about any soundboard (PA) concert tape. I would
prefer one of the really good ones obviously (esp the one with Neil Young),
but try me anyway.

	Andrew Davies

P.S. Gordon, thanks for your patience. Soon.
From: ajs@jloda.cci.com (Alan Sodoma)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: jukebox dylan
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:02:28 GMT
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet

In article <1993Jan4.174712.9817@ll.mit.edu> you write:
|
|i was in the village in NYC i saw a juke box with 30% dylan on it, but
|nothing like this - an 11+ minute song?  alas, we were in a hurry and

There's a bar called the Main Place in Rochester that has the Allman
Brother's, Eat a Peach in the cd jukebox.  That has Mountain Jam on
it, which is around 30 minutes!  I played it a couple times and no
body seemed to even notice it was so long.

Al
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: CSMSAXS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSAXS (Arnie Stodolsky))
Subject: Re: a dylan song id
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:49:15 PST

In article <93006.152037RXL4@psuvm.psu.edu>, on 6 Jan 93 20:20:37 GMT,
RXL4@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>
>i'm trying to locate a dylan song that i heard on the radio in dc last year it
>involves a soldier who goes off to war and is injured (disfigured?) and quits
>communicating with his mother-later to return home in his new condition. its
>quite a strong song and i can"t locate it anywhere. any help out there? i appre
>ciate any suggestions. thanks--your uncle bob.
>
I believe the title is John Brown or Ballad of John Brown.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: Paul.S.Rhee.1@nd.edu (PAUL S. RHEE)
Subject: Dylan's High Times
Followup-To: rec.music.dylan
Organization: U. Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:17:51 GMT

Not that anyone reading this ever mingles their mind with illegal
substances,
but Bobby Z. is on the cover of this month's HighTimes magazine.
The author of the article said Dylan declined an interview ;)

The article itself contained a lot of interesting information that was
loosely and rather long-windedly strung together.

Joe
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: some new boot-CDs
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:19:24
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: gerkepott@espel.picker.de's message of 7 Jan 93 08:22:01 MET

In article <1993Jan7.082201.95@espel.picker.de> gerkepott@espel.picker.de writes:
   Highway 61 Revisited Again was reprinted (without the fault)


What fault is that?

Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: ag@sics.se (Anders G|ransson)
Subject: There is no sense in trying
Organization: GRAMMA
Distribution: rec.music.dylan
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:07:53 GMT


(Perhaps this has been discussed before, I'd be happy to hear of
any references.)


Swedish television sent the Dylan tribute concert this week.
When Dylan himself sung the line "there is no sense in trying"
I heard it as an icy satirical slap in the face of the public,
the other artists (and everybody else too). 
Am I wrong?
--


If you see Saint Annie, please tell her - Thanks a lot.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: burns@ohms.zk3.dec.com (Bill Burns UEG)
Subject: Re: CD Remastering of Blonde On Blonde Revisited
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:56:34 GMT


	I have the '4' as well, but I have 5 of the 'parallelograms'
	in the second batch (I'd call them circles, with crosshairs).
	Maybe we should see if any two people have identical discs
	instead. I think I bought mine thru the columbia record club
	about 2 years ago when I first got a cd player (maybe 3 years
	ago.).

	Bill
u
From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: If I Had Wings 1962 C Arnie Richard Hootenany
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:23:13 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo71

In article <9301051216.AA19735@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> RCJ@AUTOMATION.UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK writes:
>C.  (Wings 1962):
>9.  If I Had Wings [Fare Thee Well]
>    Living The Blues [listed but not on CD]
>But what is 9: If I Had Wings [Fare Thee Well]?
>Correct title? Venue? Attribution? Any other information?

One of Dylan's friends and influences in his early New York years
was Dave Van Ronk. I have a version by Dave of this one and he
calls it "Dink's Song". His version came out about '64 on an
album called "Sings The Blues" or somesuch that was released
on Verve Folkways. I'll doublecheck the album title and label at
home.

....
jimh@west.sun.com
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Krogsgaard
Date: 6 Jan 93 09:31:39
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: co273@cleveland.Freenet.Edu's message of 6 Jan 93 00:33:20 GMT

In article <1id9cgINNqv1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> co273@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacy Tartar) writes:
   Please excuse my ignorance, but what is this Krogsgaard source that many of 
   you keep referring to?

The Krogsgaard book is a session-by-session listing of every known
Dylan recording session (amateur, broadcast and studio), as well as
all of the concerts for which tapes are known to exist. All relevant
info is given for each session, insofar as this info is known: date,
place, accompanying musicians, studio reference numbers, official
release data, and of course track listings.  It's an essential
reference for any serious collector. The book been through at least
three editions, each with a different name. The most recent one,
published in 1991 or 1992 (I forget which), is called something like
Positively Bob Dylan; the previous one is from a few years earlier and
is called Master Of The Tracks.  Krogsgaard is Danish, I think, but
the book is in English. He does this for a hobby; he's a doctor by
profession, or so I'm told.
From: RCJ@AUTOMATION.UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Krogsgaard [not silly]
Date: 6 Jan 1993 12:20:42 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu






Krogsgaard, Michael.
    Positively Bob Dylan : a thirty-year discography,
    concert & recording session guide, 1960-1991 / by
    Michael Krogsgaard.
    [Ann Arbor, MI] : Popular Culture, Ink., 1991.
    xiv, 498 p. : ill. ; 29 cm.
    (Rock & roll reference series ; 33)
    Includes indexes.
    Dylan, Bob, 1941- Discography.
    ISBN: 1560750006
    LCCN: 89-92336
    

                                                            

                                                            

                                              Craig Jamieson
                                     University of Cambridge