HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: xdejxs@Oryx.COM (john sharry)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Request for information: U.S. county list with state plane codes
Keywords: State plane codes
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:12:25 GMT
Organization: Oryx Energy

I was wondering if anyone knows of any digital sources that give:
	U.S. County names
	FIPS or American Petroleum Institute County codes
	State plane mapping codes in NAD27 or NAD83

The thing I really need is state plane zone codes by county.

Thanks in advance.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:21:00 GMT
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From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: Network planning with GIS
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Ade,
    I suggest that you make contact with, amongst others, British Gas - who
have what is probably one of the biggest production GIS's in Europe - and
British Telecom.  Both are, essentially, addressing the same field as you are
about to investigate.  British Gas are likely to be happy to talk about their
work as it is quite far advanced and they are (justly) proud of their
achievements.

Peter Halls
University of York
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: What do you think about GIS interfaces? Input to vendor!
From: M.W.Stern@massey.ac.nz (M.W. Stern)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 03:43:12 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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This may be little off the track, but it does relate to user interfaces.

I am a Analyst/Programmer working on an information system that incorporates
GIS functions as part of it's operation. I would like to be able to able to
use the GIS as a backend Geographic Database Server, in the same way as one
use Oracle as a backend server for traditional type data. I assume this would
require a language standard similar to SQL, or maybe an extended SQL, to be
devised by the GIS vendor, or the GIS community. 

One advantage of this approach seems to be that other software vendors could
be encouraged to develop front-ends to the "Geo-base" so there is less
requirement for the GIS vendor to supply these products. I see all the
advantages resulting from the use of SQL compliant database servers, could be 
realised in the area of GIS.

I understand that there is some work being performed on databases of this
kind in the GIS and Object-Oriented Database fields.

Maybe you could suggest this concept to your GIS vendor contact.


PS. I would be happy to discuss concepts or hear from anyone who has an
interest in this field and/or is aware of current developments.


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The type of inferface I would like
To me the ideal interface for this
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:11:00 MDT
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From:         WATERS@UNCAMULT.BITNET
Subject:      Re GIS in southern Zambia
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Peter Dyce, you might want to contact Frederick T.  Chung, Surveyor
General and Paul Atkinson, Consultant, Dept.  of the Surveyor General,
Harare, Zimbabwe.  They presented a paper on National GIS issues in
Zimbabwe at the Ottawa 1989 GIS Conference.  The paper is only a summary
of two pages but I can send it on if you give me your snail-mail
address.  Nigel Waters bitnet:  Waters at uncamult
From: gejm@MARLIN.JCU.EDU.AU (Jim Monaghan)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: GIS TEACHING POSITION AT JCU, AUSTRALIA
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:20:03 GMT
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There was a 'typo' in yesterday's notice about the GIS lectureship and our
 search for
ch for a candidate the job starts from January 1993.

Yours

Jim Monaghan
From: VONMEYER@MACC.WISC.EDU (VONMEYER)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: references on insurance gis?
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:04:00 GMT
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Does any one have information on references to gis applications that
have been built for the insurance or actary business?

Thanks in advance for any leads.

nancy

Nancy von Meyer, Fairview Industries
internet vonmeyer@vms.macc.wisc.edu  bitnet vonmeyer@wiscmacc.bitnet
8616 Fairway Place, Middleton WI   53562
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From: T.D.G.Sandford@bradford.ac.uk (TDG SANDFORD)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Can anyone tell me about IDRISI?
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:34:02 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 90908106@muser

Can anyone give me any information about IDRISI.

I believe it is a raster oriented GIS from Clark University USA, but that's
all I know.

So: any more details; what does it cost (can it be obtained by ftp); where/
how can I get it?

Email to me please - I'll post a summary of any replies in about 10 days.

Thanks,
--
Thomas Sandford | t.d.g.sandford@bradford.ac.uk
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:15:37 EST
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From:         David Wong <DWONG@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      ESRI library

Would the person in charge of or managing the ESRI library in Redland
be kind enough to get in touch with me?

David Wong
(DWONG@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU)

* I APOLOGIZE TO ALL NETTERS FOR WASTING THE BANDWIDTH *
From: GASTEP@LSUVM.BITNET (stephanie weigel)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Info about SPANS software
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:26:51 GMT
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We would like to find out where to get more information on the SPANS software
package.  Also of interest are any successful applications of spatial analysis
using SPANS that anyone may care to relate.  Thanks.

      Stephanie Weigel
      Geography/Anthropology and Ag Econ Depts.
      Louisiana State University

      GASTEP@LSUVM.BITNET  or steph@cypress.cadgis.lsu.edu
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From: C.V.Copas@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: GIS Interfaces
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:01:44 GMT
Reply-To: C.V.Copas@lut.ac.uk (Conn Copas)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

In article <GIS-L%92081710494193@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> MGLUCK@SUVM.BITNET writes:
>Note in wp programs you can do mailmerge, copy in graphics, preview output,
>have templates for various forms, etc.  These were not in original versions of
>the more common wp. But they are tasks real people doing work need to do
>quickly and frequently.
>
>Work in participatory design, artifact analysis, and user-based analysis can
>lead to improvements of interfaces.
> 
Some of those WP enhancements which you describe are those which I would place
in the category of 'value added', ie, they are not functions which one could
derive readily from an analysis of existing manual practices. Thus, at some
point the designer must make an essentially creative decision about how current
work practices could be changed for the better, through software. This probably
requires a designer who is at least as familiar with the tasks as those whom
he/she is observing, and who also has a greater breadth of experience with a 
variety of systems; a rather daunting requirement. I would certainly agree that
any interface which has claims to being progressive should incorporate existing
innovations within the field. A last thought on the above list of enhancements:
most involve integration of some external system or other into WP, which
reinforces the comments of others re the importance of integration generally.
This raises an interesting philosophical question: "What is an application?". 
The traditional answer is that it is a code library which does various things;
in future, it could be more like an executive shell which calls upon various
external resources in a transparent fashion.

I suspect at this point that we
are straying off Bob's original question, which was more concerned with
interfaces as such than with functionality. For my money, most GIS people seem
to spend about 50% of their time trying to work out how to convert data from
one file/projection/data model/resolution format to another. An intelligent
import/export function couldn't fail to be a hit, regardless of whether the
industry ever converges upon more standardisation.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:34:20 -0230
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From:         sfreundsch@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA
Subject:      Re: GIS Interfaces
X-To:         GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

>>I think it's fine for academic people to propose that business people
>>vending GIS systems should read lots of papers and peruse bibliogra-
>>phies, but it just ain't gonna happen, folks.

I don't agree.  I think that it is beginning to happen - not as fast
as I would like, but it is.

>>At the 1990 NATO meeting on GIS interfaces, Intergraph scientist John
>>Herring was something of a fish out of water and (I believe) dis-
>>[stuff deleted]

This was not a meeting on GIS interfaces, it was a meeting on
understanding spatial representations and the implications for GIS.
You should know Bob, you were there.  You certainly have proven your
conjecture that "those who know do not talk, and those who talk
apprently do not know".  Please Bob, talk some more for us.


Scott Freundschuh
Memorial University of Newfoundland
From: KBROOKS@KSUVM.BITNET (Ken Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Request for GIS Information for Central Europe
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:46:00 GMT
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I have several colleagues here at Kansas State Unviversity who are beginning
projects with people in Central Europe (especially Poland, Hungary, and
Czechoslovakia).  They are interested in learning about the potential for
using GIS in resource management and development projects and have asked
me to post a requestion for information that might support those efforts.

Here are several specific questions about the topic:

    Who are the people using GIS in the region?  What are their names,
       addresses, phone numbers, E-mail?

    What are the software packages that they are using?

    What are the hardware platforms that they are using?

    What are the sources of information available in public and private domain?
D
DYou may respond to me directly as follows:

 Ken Brooks
Department of Landscape Architecture
Kansas State University
Manhattan, Kansas 66506-2909 USA

E-Mail: KBROOKS@KSUVM.KSU.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:56:16 EDT
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From:         Mark Heinicke <mark@GEOG5.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GIS Interfaces: NO WE DON'T!!! (was: we do agree)
X-To:         GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu
X-cc:         mark@gis2.geog5.umd.edu

Right on! to Chris Hermansen with his "plea to GIS manufacturers" to fix
existing features before piling on the MUF (not so much More Useless
Features as More Useable Features that could be used with so much more
satisfaction if we weren't spent from devising work-arounds of primitives
that run dirty).

What Chris didn't mention were actual *steps backward* taken from one
version to the next, f'rinstance an editing procedure that now locks up
memory which previously ran adequately, or a database utility that now
fails to import ASCII files which it formerly assimilated without a
hitch--these two from a MAJOR MAJOR GIS vendor bursting with enhancements
that I can barely understand.  I admire the ingenuity of developers that
are pushing the limits of The Possible, but I am exceedingly exasperated
by their neglect of the nitty-gritty details which make the difference
between frustration and pleasure in using a system.

This situation reminds me of the development of V-6 engines that get
0-60 (that's miles/hour) in 6 seconds, which are placed in cars whose
door handles fall off.  This is *progress*?!

Mark Heinicke
Dept. of Geography, University of Maryland at College Park
mark@geog5.umd.edu
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From:         JONAS@FALAB1.NATGEO.LU.SE
Subject:      DEM

Hi,

I am searching for information about and digital elevation data (DEMs)
covering central Europe, especially Germany, Poland and Czechoslovakia.
I am intersted both in raster and vector data.

 - what is available as public domain data and were do I get it.

 - what is for sale and were do I get it.

 - resolutions,(X,Y,Z) quality information etc. are also of interest.

I appreciate all information on this topic.


best regards,

Jonas ARdo
Department of Physical Geography
Univ. of Lund, Sweden

Email: JONAS@falab.natgeo.lu.se
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:21:07 -0400
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From:         Eric Fielding <eric@GEOLOGY.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: USGS stream gauging data
X-To:         GIS-L@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

There is also a CD-ROM of "A Daily Stream Discharge Data Set for the
Continental United States". We have one here, but the person that got it is
away in a canoe in N. Quebec right now, so I can't say where it came from.

				++Eric Fielding
eric@geology.cornell.edu
From: ajr@aber.ac.uk (Ade Rixon)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: Network planning with GIS
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:42:16 GMT
Organization: University Of Wales, Aberystwyth - Party town!

In article <GIS-L%92081809114928@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> PJH1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK (Peter Halls) writes:
>Ade,
>    I suggest that you make contact with, amongst others, British Gas - who
>have what is probably one of the biggest production GIS's in Europe - and
>British Telecom.  Both are, essentially, addressing the same field as you are
>about to investigate.  British Gas are likely to be happy to talk about their
>work as it is quite far advanced and they are (justly) proud of their
>achievements.
>
>Peter Halls
>University of York

Thanks. I suppose I should point out that we are in the process of contacting
all the utility companies to try and discover what they use. Nice to know that
we're likely to get co-operation as well.

Anyone else?

Ade_
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Date:         Tue, 11 Aug 1992 17:45:40 PDT
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From:         Steve Kopp <esri!plato!steve@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      ARC/INFO GRIDs to other formats
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Response to Eric Fielding's request for information on converting
ARC/INFO's GRID format to generic interchange format...

> I have been trying to use the "gridimage" command in Arc 6.0.1 to
> convert a grid to an image that I can read with other programs, but it
> only seems to be able to create 8-bit images, no matter what type the
> grid is. Is there any way to get a "short integer" 16-bit image or
> "float" real number image out of a grid?

The GRIDIMAGE command can be used to convert an ARC/INFO Grid into a number
of different integer image formats : SUNRASTER, TIFF,
uncompressed flat binary raster (BIL or BIP), RLC, ...

The GRIDIMAGE command can create images with 8 or 16 bit integer pixels.
The depth (bits per pixel) of the output image is determined by two things :

1) The depth (range of values) in the grid
(does the range require 1, 8, 16 or 32 bits per pixel).

2) The limits of the chosen image format.  Some supported image formats such
as BIL, BIP, Sun Raster and TIFF support multiple image depths (1, 8, 16, 32).
Others like RLC support only a single depth.

If your data contains values greater than 255 and the output format supports
16 bit data, then the output of the GRIDIMAGE command will be a 16 bit
image file.

The most convenient output format for external software is probably the
uncompressed flat binary raster (BIL or BIP) format. This format is
accompanied by ASCII data description (header) files.

The GRIDIMAGE command does not support any floating point output image
formats at the current time. You would need to use the grid map algebra
to scale the floating point grid to integer values.

The GRIDASCII command can also be used to generate an ascii file of
cell values.

Steve Kopp
email: skopp@esri.com
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:13:33 -0500
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From:         Jim Westervelt <westerve@ZORRO.CECER.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: GIS Interfaces
X-To:         GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

An interface to a GIS, no matter how wonderful, is useful only to the direct
user of that GIS.  Generally most useful to the occasional user.

GIS, in a decision making environment, must be operated in conjunction with
stats packages, DBMSs, report writers, image processing systems, priority
trade-off analyses, critical path management decisions, CADD packages,
employee data bases, operations research analyses, hydrologic modeling
packages, etc.    Add to a set of such packages a mouldable graphical
user interface capability and you open the possibility of assembling
decision support systems which
   * Draw analysis and presentation capabilities from all these packages
   * Are application specific
   * Are location specific
   * Are user specific

A user interface becomes the glue that holds the disparate analyses and systems
together in support of hundreds (thousands) of different decision support
systems.

This is the approach that GRASS design and development has taken over the
years.   Example:  A storm damage simulation decision support system is being
developed in prototype mode.  Analysis steps include NEXRAD radar analysis,
storm tracking and prediction, rainfall predictions, hydrologic runoff
analyses, dam management decisions, downstream flooding analysis, querying
of hospital, school, nursing home and other demographc data within the flood
zone, and 3-d visualizations of the predicted event.    ALL CAPABILITIES
ARE HELD TOGETHER, FROM THE USER PERSPECTIVE, BY A SINGLE USER INTERFACE.

To facilitate this approach, the individual systems (e.g. the GIS) must be
as free of internal graphical user interfaces as possible.

Jim Westervelt   GRASS Design and Development
Construction Engineering Research Laboratories
westerve@zorro.cecer.army.mil
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:55:00 GMT
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From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Sorry, an ARC/INFO question ....
X-To:         GIS-L <GIS-L@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>

Thanks to all who responded to my message - especially to the whole host of
'official' and 'unofficial' ESRI responses.

My original query related to Release 6.0 - I was not expecting 6.1 so soon!
6.0 for SUN & HP seems to have been generally available in the UK from early
June (92) - but the SGI version 'just never seemed to arrive' and all I could
get in terms of 'official' information is 'we are waiting for it - we do not
know when it will come, we do not know why it is delayed' and an implied
'please don't hassle us - we'll let you know as soon as we can' - which I
confess to having ignored!

Thanks, once more,

Peter Halls,
University of York
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From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: comp.infosystems.gis readership
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:07:38 GMT

dmark@acsu.buffalo.edu (David Mark) writes:

>The statistics may of course be biased by some of the 2% of Usenet sites in
>the sample being heavy GIS-interest sites, but I do not beleive that to be
>the case.  (In scanning the list of monitored sites for July, I did not see
>many familiar nodes.)  About 400 people actually read comp.infosystems.gis

Well, one of the monitored sites is yours truly.  I guess you could
call us a 'heavy GIS-interest site', since that's what we do for a
living!  Our arbitron stats are 43 Users, 24 Netreaders, and the most
popular group is comp.infosystems.gis, with 9 readers, followed by
rec.humor.funny with 8.  I bet there aren't many sites out there were
c.i.g is more popular than r.h.f!

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion/statement of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"Ok dear, want me to call the bike shop and see if they'll sponsor your
mid-life crisis?" "Yeah.  Ask them if they'll upgrade my shifters, too"
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:05:43 EDT
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From:         zhen <SOEZHEN@VM.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      e-mail address of Drs. Nuckols and Vlachos

Hi! colleagues:
     Is anybody out there knows what are the E-mail addresses of Dr. J.R.
Nuckols and Dr. Evan Vlachos, both of them working in Colorado State
University. Also it would be appreciate if let me know their mail address in
detail.

     Thanks again for the information if any to provide soon.
From: C.V.Copas@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: GIS Interfaces
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:01:02 GMT
Reply-To: C.V.Copas@lut.ac.uk (Conn Copas)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

In article <1992Aug18.185349.7307@u.washington.edu> cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes:
>
>I think it's fine for academic people to propose that business people
>vending GIS systems should read lots of papers and peruse bibliogra-
>phies, but it just ain't gonna happen, folks.  You can be as reserved
>and diplomatic as you like, but if you insist on not naming names and
>otherwise hoping by implication to make your points, you will not get
>results.
>
Well, I'm still too reserved to name names publicly, but consider this. Some
Macintosh utilities include a facility by which the software may make a 'best
guess' about the data file format, if it is not informed explicitly by the
user. Suggest to your vendor that any GIS which does not contain this feature
is lagging contemporary developments.
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:29:09 -0500
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From:         V010KKYE@UBVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: GIS Job Opportunity at FoE UK

Dear netters:

I am trying to reachthe folks at Friends of the Earth (no, I'm not
looking for a job) but their foe@gn.uucp address does not work, at
least from my Vaxcluster.

Are you listening FoE? Or can someone give me an alternate e-mail
address for them?

Thanks.

Mike Gould
ESRI-Spain
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