HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tmadson@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Todd Madson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Midi guitar inquiry
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:05:00 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I tried a friends's Ibanez MC-1 controller and found that the higher strings
was sluggish to track and tracked at less volume than the lower strings.  As
far as really fast, Holdsworth styled legato playing, the unit didn't really
take care of business as I'd expected - it tracked the initial note really
loud, then the rest of the notes were really quiet.  It also was somewhat
slower than I normally play, however, it did, essentially, take what I gave
it.  I'd think the newer Roland units would be a lot better deal.  The MC-1
didn't even track as well as the older Roland synth I used to have.  The Casio
tracked really fast, seemed to be a better unit as a guitar, and wasn't bad at
all.  Check out the new Roland unit.

UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, crash}!orbit!pnet51!tmadson
ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!tmadson@nosc.mil
INET: tmadson@pnet51.orb.mn.org
From: eh@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Was there ever a DW6000 rack?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:21:19 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72EA33E2501C0D8@rahab.ljo.dec.com>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:25:18 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

> Was there ever a DW6000 rack?

No.

If there was, why would you want it as opposed to
the EX-8000, rackmount of the DW-8000?

Eirikur

eh@ranger.enet.dec.com
From: mgd@world.std.com (Matthew G Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Drum pad for sale cheap
Summary: Yamaha DD-5 for sale
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:58:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.Bxs7xo.7wz
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Yamaha Drum Controller

Yamaha DD5

Consumer line drum controller (four pads) that happens to send
midi note information.

*  two velocity curves
*  midi note number assignable
*  transmit channel assignable
*  includes drum sticks, ac adapter and manual

$50.00

Matthew Davidson
mgd@world.std.com

ask about the other stuff IUm selling
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: lieblm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Martin Liebl)
Subject: Re: Q: PD-Software for MPU-MIDI
Keywords: MIDI
Originator: lieblm@sunbode12.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:19:07 GMT



In article <1992Nov10.130958.12315@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Frank2.Simon@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank2 'Biber' Simon) writes:
|>  (the subject sazit )

Na klaro gibt's sowas! Yes there is one:

WinJammer, a shareware sequencer running under MS Windows 3.1 (or 3.0 with
MultiMedia extension); it's a full featured sequencer and still being
improved (version 2.2 is some weeks old).

Get it from:
ftp.cica.indiana.edu(129.79.20.84), directory ~ftp/pub/pc/win3/sounds

If you don't have Win 3.1, look if there's something you can need at:
 ftp.cs.ruu.nl(131.211.80.17)     ~ftp/pub/MIDI/PROGRAMS/MSDOS
 louie.udel.edu(128.175.1.3)	~ftp/pub/midi
 ucsd.edu(128.54.16.1)

Bye, 
	Martin

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
&&&&&	Martin J. Liebl						&&&&&
&&&&&	Hartstr.17, D-8057 Eching, Germany			&&&&&
&&&&&	Email: lieblm@sunbode12.informatik.tu-muenchen.de	&&&&&
&&&&&	Project: Practical Experiments On Murphy's Law ...	&&&&&
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Arp Quadra
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:40:12 GMT

In article <101740@bu.edu>, jdisegi@bu.edu (Jonathan Disegi) writes:
|> Does anyone know much about an Arp Quadra, or have one for sale?

Check Rogue Music in NY, and Caruso music (both advertise in
Keyboard magazine). They have lots of used gear and I have seen 
various ARP synths listed by them. Get on Rogue's mailing list,
and they'll send you a list of stuff they have.

|> I really like Arp products, and I was wondering where to find one
|> Does anyone know if they can be MIDI'd?

Yes. You can get a dedicated retrofit or you can use a MIDI->CV
convertor. Check the last issue of Keyboard mag, they had an excellent
article on upgrades for synths, including various places that have
MIDI retrofits. 

There are also a couple of places that advertise in Keyboard classifieds
such as Analogics that sell (and service) analog gear and midi retrofits.

|> How much do they sell for
|> and are they hard to find?

The synths or the retrofits ? The synths are easily available - you
just have to be patient. Prices vary according to demand and model,
usually $200 and up depending on the model. The MIDI retrofits
are expensive - often more expensive than the synth - $300-$400.
Ditto for MIDI->CV convertors.

|> 
|> Any responsed would be greatly appriciated.
|> 
|> Jonathan Disegi
|> Boston University
|> (jdisegi@bu.acs.edu)
|> 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: VFX: Hlp me decide to buy
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:58:19 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <rlw.721779602@elan> rlw@elan (Robert Wald) writes:
>
>  I've located a VFX for $700 + shipping. I need a decent synth with
>velocity and hopefully aftertouch. I like ones that are highly programmable
>with decent sound. This seemed like a nice one three years ago, but I 
>barely remember it and won't get to see it first since its mail order.
>So I need some help in deciding if this is a good one. I don't think
>there are any other used/older synths in the price range that can beat it,
>am I correct? (Its a plain VFX, I'm making sure that it has ROM
>version 2.1 at least) 
>
>The main question (besides basic info) is whether I should go with this
>one, or spend a little more and get an M1 or a used SY-77 or something
>along those lines. Just how much more powerful are these newer machines?
>
>
>Two complications:
>
>- It has no drum voice, so I'd probably have to keep my TG-33 to provide
>drum voices (and extra polyphony). If I get a new synth I can trade
>in the TG-33 for $300. So this makes a different synth more attractive
>economically. Still, even counting this the VFX+TG-33 is $1000, and the cheapest

$700 for a plain VFX sounds a little steep. I've seen good used VFX-SD's
(with latest system ROM) go for around $750. IMHO they do have truly impressive
sounds.    

>
>- I know that VFXes have bugs. 

As the owner of a VFX-SD I can definitely vouch for that!!!!!!! However, I love
my VFX-SD and have learned to live with and work around it's behavioral quirks.

-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MT-32 vs. D-110
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:52:28 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <BxxAn2.LyF@news.udel.edu> jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch) writes:

>In article <1eboj5INN6u4@gap.caltech.edu>
>                                rspangle@celaeno.uucp (Randy Spangler) writes:

>>The patch format _is_ compatible between the D-10 and MT-32 - the D-10
>>just adds a reverb module and less noisy synth chips.

The MT-32 DOES have built-in reverb as in the D-10, and, yes, the D-10 is
quieter, but is by no means an example of low noise synthesis!

>	Nope.  Not MIDI compatible.  

This is what I told the originator of this thread, too, but after reading
Randy's post, it occurred to me that I happened to be in possesion of the
sysex specifications for both of these instruments (but they're on paper;
don't even ask me to type them in!).  Imagine my surprise when I found that
they do indeed match, byte for byte and address for address!

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sound Blaster MIDI port
From: deanaj@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (A. J. Dean)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:31:00 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

While I'm having a fit of rashly posting to this group...

Is the midi port on the sound blaster pro version 1 electrically 'safe'? In
the manual, it has 2 wires for MIDI, RxD and TxD, and I assume you would use
ground as a common. But aren't midi inputs supposed to be fully electrically
isolated :. requiring 2 isolated RxD inputs? It shares a joystick port plug
so they may have put the optoisolator in the adapter_plug_thing you are
supposed to use which came with the SB's midi kit. Unfortunately I gave it
to dad who didn't get one with his SB and I didn't have a synth at the
time... I imagine not as it looked just like an ordinary moulded plug and
cable arrangement.

More worrying, what is marked as ground on the joystick port diagram is
actually connected to the PCs +5V supply, and may have resulted in a rather
nasty DC ground loop when I plugged the (earthed) amp into the synth when
the midi out was connected. The synth's midi still works, but everyone smelt
electronic smoke for a while, still don't know what it came from. I hate
joystick ports, many amps can flow forth to burn things out, and I always
muck something up... I hate DC ground loops too, in fact for some strange
reason they only occur through synths (and soldering irons) for me, though I
hadn't done it for a while until last night!

Antony.  
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Re: Why is there background noise on my synth?
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:12:39 GMT

Robert Paul Martino Jr (martino@wpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:
> I have a Yamaha SY22 and have really started to notice that when
> I use headphones there is a buzz in the right ear for certain patches.
> For some patches this does not happen and it is not inherent for
> the patch because I tried copying patches to different locations and
> the sound depends on which patch location I'm at not which patch I'm
> listening to.  The loudness of the buzz also varies for each location
> and there seems to be no real pattern except that it usually occurs
> with the high numbers for each set of eight (e.g. 1.7 1.8 8.8 etc)
> 
> This does not seem to occur with the external speakers I have the
> synth hooked to.

That's the kicker.  The headphone jack on the SY22 is the noisiest I've heard.
As far as I can tell, that buzzing doesn't actually follow any *software* 
pattern (i.e. which patches are where).

The main outs, BTW, should be relatively quiet.  Not *that* quiet, but quiet
enough.

LAiRD

--
ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu           |
ljnelson@amh.amherst.edu            |          The Quintet-essential.
(413) 542-2932                      |
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:18762 rec.music.makers.synth:271
From: system@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: ** Wanted: Driver to make Alchemy work with Audiomedia II card
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 17:15:58 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Does anyone know if there is a driver that will allow Alchemy to work with
the AudioMedia II cards?
<X>orcist

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ system@cyberden.uucp ]
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:18551 rec.music.makers.synth:182 rec.music.makers:11001
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: first synth questions
Keywords: reliability,keyboard
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:54:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov17.074915.26422@odin.corp.sgi.com> bfrank@csd.sgi.com (Bryan A. Frank) writes:
>
>I'm shopping for my first keyboard/synth and have 2 questions:
>
>(1) Reliability.
>Is there is any great difference in reliability among the major synth
>manufacturers (Ensoniq,Yamaha,Roland,Kurtzweil,...)?  I ask because I was
>told by a salesperson at one store that they didn't carry the Ensoniq brand
>because of reliability problems (always "in the shop").

I think that dealer is trying to cover his own incompetence.  I had a
computer dealer say that they wouldn't sell NEC equipment because of
reliability problems, when NEC has the best repair record I know if.
Arguments like this usually mean "I can't afford to sell them, so I'll
denegrate the entire company so you won't go to another store".

Unless you hear this kind of argument from lots of independant
dealers, I'd ignore it (and go to another store).

I know two people with Ensoniq keyboards.  The units have had
occasional software problems, but all were fixed after ordering the
free ROM upgrades.

-- 
  |)  David Charlap          | .signature confiscated by FBI due to
 /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu | an ongoing investigation into the
((|,)                        | source of these .signature virusses
 ~|~
From: martino@wpi.WPI.EDU (Robert Paul Martino Jr)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Why is there background noise on my synth?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:41:58 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

I have a Yamaha SY22 and have really started to notice that when
I use headphones there is a buzz in the right ear for certain patches.
For some patches this does not happen and it is not inherent for
the patch because I tried copying patches to different locations and
the sound depends on which patch location I'm at not which patch I'm
listening to.  The loudness of the buzz also varies for each location
and there seems to be no real pattern except that it usually occurs
with the high numbers for each set of eight (e.g. 1.7 1.8 8.8 etc)

This does not seem to occur with the external speakers I have the
synth hooked to.

Please help!

Rob
-- 
Rob Martino                          |     (clever or particularly funny
martino@wpi.wpi.edu                  |      philosophical quote here)
Worcester, Massachusetts USA         |
From: ep@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Ed Porras)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Yamaha SY85
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:09:32 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

|> The most expensive synthesizer without sequencer seems to be the
|> SY55, tho I'm not sure, if it is still being produced.
|> It couldn't compete with the SY85 anyway, i. e. it is a few
|> years older (therefore inferiour sound quality, fewer changable
|> sound parameters and no filters)


I think the SY55 is no longer in production, but i thought (not sure) that Yamaha
was producing new keyboards as "upgrades" to the SY series... i.e: SY35 is a
souped up SY22.. and i thought there was going to be an SY65 (or somewhere
around there) that would be a souped up SY55...

I do know that the SY55 does have filters... this is one of the reasons
why waveforms are compatible between SY55 and RY30's.

Yamaha did come out with the rack version of the 55, and it was very inexpensive
and did not have a built-in seq.


By the way: is there actually something like the SY65?


Ed
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Re: KORG DSS-1
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:10:23 GMT

Charles Berlinguette (charles.berlinguette@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca) wrote:
> I have an oportunity to buy a used Korg DSS-1 sampling keyboard, almost
> new in condition etc, for about $450.00 US. Includes manuals and 15
> sample disks. With full MIDI etc.

Get it.  Now.  Instantly.

> 
> What would be a good price for this synth?

With disks, in good condition, about $600 US.  You have a good deal.  Buy it.
Now.  Instantly.  :)

> How would it compare to a DX7, Korg-M1, Kurzweil K2000 or whatever
> else is available?

Not sure what you mean--the DSS-1 is a 12-bit sampler with analog filters, two
DDLs, a real live synthesis engine and reasonably extensive sample-editing
abilities.  A K2000 it's not, but it was never meant to be.  In my opinion,
it makes the Korg M1 look like exactly what it is: a boring black box.  About
the only similarities the DSS-1 has to a DX7 are its weight and its age.

In short: great price, great synth.  Buy it.  Now.  Instantly.

LAiRD

--
ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu           |
ljnelson@amh.amherst.edu            |          The Quintet-essential.
(413) 542-2932                      |
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,alt.guitar
From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Subject: Re: Midi guitar inquiry
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:56:05 GMT

My GR-1 (the new Roland gtr synth) is on order and should be here this
week.  I will post with fist impressions as time allows...

Dave Blevins
blave@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: count0@morris.catt.ncsu.edu (Karl Nordenstam)
Subject: FOR SALE: Roland U-220
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:26:56 GMT

Got a Roland U-220 for sale (good condition!) for $500.

Please respond by e-mail at count0@catt.ncsu.edu


********************************************
Everything should be made as simple as
possible, but not simpler. --Albert Einsten.

Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:18572 news.groups:22262
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
Subject: Re: Dave Hayes may be right (was Re: To keep the r.m.s rename...)
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:06:29 GMT
Organization: Xanth Watch

mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:

>arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:

>> outcome of the vote was bad because of that.  In this case, what people are
>> objecting to is the _voting_procedure_.

>Like rec.arts.sf-lovers...

Not really, with r.a.s-l it was the procedure of that particular vote that
was the problem. This time it seems that it's the Guidelines that some are
protesting.
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen        |  I survived the rec.arts.sf-lovers split
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk   |
From: trog@midiline.la.ca.us (Ralph Stempel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mac as a drum machine?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:20:06 PST
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

plemmons@mth.msu.edu (Steve Plemmons) writes:

> In article <BxIzyz.n0J@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard M
> >In <k6XTTB2w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.
> >
> >
> >>	I use a CD from 3D SOUNDS called (appropriately enough)
> >>"Drum Sample CD #1". It has over 1200 drum samples digitally
> >>recorded from most of the most popular drum machines and
> >>samplers. It has the Akai XR-10, Roland R8, TR808, TR505, TR606,
> >>TR707, TR909, LINN Drum, Rhythum 55, DDD-1, Yamaha RX-5,
> >>RX-11, RY-30, Drumtraks, Drumulator, Simmons, TX16W, plus tonnes
> >>of drum samples from other drum machines. 
> >>	I bought it for $30.00, and has much better sound
> >>quality than any other drum sample CD I've heard. If you're
> >>interested, email me, and I'll give you the companies addresse
> >>and such.
> >
> >
> >
> >>------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark 
> >>markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >I gotta tell ya,
> >
> >That is one sreamin' CD.  I have not touched my R5 since I got that CD. 
> >Put it thru an effects device and into you computer or sampler, and away
> >you go!!!
> >
> >Who would want a non-midi TR808 when you can just use this CD!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >R Martin
> >Noise.
> 
> 
> How would one go about getting these samples into sysex form and downloading 
> to an R-8 for instance.
> 
> Steve
> -- 
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> @  Steve Plemmons                    As a former fetus, I oppose          @
> @  plemmons@mth.msu.edu              abortion! - Living Epistles Shirt    @
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

   You can't. There's no sample RAM in an R8. The only way to import 
samples would be through a ROM-card blower.

-----
trog@midiline.la.ca.us (Ralph Stempel) 
MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (EE U780935)
Subject: Re: MT-32 vs. D-110
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:47:37 GMT

CTIRABAS@ESTEC.BITNET () writes:
> Hope it does not sound too silly...
> A lot of games support music score thru MIDI interface (MPU-401 compatible).
> They usually play an MT-32.
> Does anybody know if a D-10, D-110 or even D-50 would work as well?
 
No!  If you use D-10 to play games, you'll hear incorrect music....  Too bad....... :-(

--
===============================================================================
 Yuh-Fuu Wu                                      National Tsing-Hua University
 e-mail: yfwu@uz.nthu.edu.tw                     Dept. of Electric Engineering
                                                 Hsin-Chu City, 300
 Like MS Visual Basic most!                      Taiwan, ROC
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: leclercm@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Leclerc Marco)
Subject: FTP SITE FOR MIDI FILES
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:00:12 GMT

I'd like to know if there are ftp sites with midi files.

The kind of files I look for is
	top 40 songs
	rock
	hard rock

I just want some songs, so I don't need to record them all. 



thanks, Marco Leclerc
	leclercm@jsp.umontreal.ca
	leclercm@brise.ere.umontreal.ca

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth