HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)
Subject: Re: Need help with O2, HR and RR monitor
Keywords: monitor, oximeter
Reply-To: tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)
Organization: "Group	47"
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:04:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.073715.9060@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, cfm2h@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Christopher Mullins) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr14.054449.17190@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> btbg1194@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bradley T Banko) writes:
|> >In article <1992Apr10.175943.11434@coe.montana.edu> ieeu0026@cs.montana.edu (Blaine Kubesh) writes:
|> >>
|> >>I am building for a design project an infant monitor. The monitor will
|> >>be driven using a Motorola 68HC11 mocrocontroller. I need to sense
|> >>three vitals.. 
|> >>	1)	Heart rate
|> >>	2)	blood SaO2
|> >>	3)	Respiration rate
|> >
|> >for respiration, monitor the heart rate and fourier transform it over a period
|> >of several beats... wouldn't be "real" time (maybe a minute or so behind), but
|> >the respiration will superimpose a slow component on the heart rate.
|> 
|>   The 68HC11 probably wouldn't be able to do the FFT fast enough- you would
|> need a DSP chip.
|> 
|> Chris Mullins
|> cfm2h@virginia.edu

Actually the HC16 is a dandy engine for this project.  (It has the DSP!)

Tom
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Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.consumers
From: nick@socrates.umd.edu (Nick Lemberos (staff))
Subject: Don Joy ACL/Knee brace
Keywords: ACL, knee, brace, Don Joy
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:30:17 GMT


gone daddy gone, my ACL is gone.

Dr. said that my ACL is torn and gave me a persription for a knee
brace.  He also gave me the number of a manufacturer, Don Joy.
I called and the brace looks to be about $330 and the local sales
rep wants another $50 to do a "fitting". (insurance wont cover.)

Anyone have any comments to make on this brace, I believe he mentioned
it would be the "gold point" model.  Are there other companies who
make knee braces that I should look into?

Im pretty active (tennis and softball), especially in the summer, but
I dont mind wearing a brace.

thank for any assistance.

nick



-- 
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   Academic Computing				     ^ sew-crates
      "Doing life with no chance for parole"       -L. Anderson
From: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Brainless legal...
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:25:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: suned1.19560
Reply-To: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division

In article <ska9dINNggh@cs.utexas.edu>, turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:

>In article <14383@pitt.UUCP>, geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>>> If I were to cut off your little toe and culture the cells from it,
>>> they would all have exactly the same DNA you do, and are thus human.
>>> But they would not be a person.
>
>In article <19525@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL writes:
>> Ah yes, Gordon, but I don't think these same cells would have
>> the same sytems as I, nor would they respond to warmth or sound, nor
>> would they explore their environment.  Thus, I cannot see the basis 
>> for this correlation.
>
>If she agrees that this [DNA] is irrelevant to the issue,
>she should not have raised it.

What I agreed, Russell, is that *cells cultured from my little toe*
would not be a person.  I did NOT agree that DNA was irrelavent.  I did,
however, stress in my reponse that this was only *one* part of the
argument.

>As it is, her other points are also flawed.  That a fetus has "the
>same systems" is not very telling: so does a tadpole. 

(Back to DNA being only *one* part of the argument.)  A tadpole, although
it might have systems similar to those of human beings, does *not* share
all of the same characteristics that I have listed.

>Ms McGovern may not consider these differences important.  But that
>she tries to pretend they don't exist would suggest that she sees
>how others might consider them important, and would just as soon
>ignore them in discussion of these matters.  This is a poor tactic
							     ^^^^^^
>in an environment where there are plenty of people who know better.
>The fetus fetishists can talk about a fetus "exploring" its
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    
>environment; but the fact remains that it does not yet have the
>brain physiology that would allow it to do so meaningfully.
                                               ????????????

I did not employ "tactics", I was simply sharing my views as I thought
this was the nature of the net.  If I am mistaken, I beg your pardon.

As for calling me a "fetus fetishist", if you must resort to name
calling, I would much prefer you do so to my e-mail address.
From: dld@bruce.cs.monash.OZ.AU (Beta bee)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Beta-blockers and bee/wasp stings
Keywords: Beta-blockers, bee, stings, wasp
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:21:27 GMT
Organization: Monash Uni. Computer Science, Australia


   On the way out from visiting my doctor's today, I saw an article up on
the wall about Bee stings and beta blockers.  There was a GP quoted in the
article who was on a beta-blocker (it started with a 'T') who got a bee or
wasp sting on the head and then went in to some sort of 'I forget' :-) .
(He mentioned that he had had such stings with little or no reaction prior to
his going on beta-blockers.)

One thing which I do remember quite clearly is that the doctor concerned said
that he'd had no idea about this, so he researched through the literature to
see what he could find.  He was stunned to uncover one article where 14 out of
14 patients on beta-blockers had reacted very adversely to bee stings.

Does anyone know more?   In particular, I am in my early 30's, no heart or
health trouble, and am on 80mg of Inderal per day.  Given that earlier bee
stings have caused me no trouble, how dangerous might a bee sting be for me?

Thank you.
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Input section of an EKG
From: macridis_g@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Gerry Macridis)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:58:26 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wellington, NZ
Summary: Which electrode makes up the negative side of the chest leads?

In article <1992Apr11.044812.23063@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
jrd5@po.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper) writes:

> Ten electrodes will give you twelve leads, a "full" EKG.  The electrodes
> are placed left arm, right arm, left leg, right leg, and six V (chest)
> electrodes.  You should be able to find the exact locations in any
> textbook of electrocardiography.  

In a 12 lead ECG, which electrode or combination of electrodes is used as
the negative counterpart of the chest leads?  (It is my understanding
that the chest electrodes are all positive.)

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From: Bob.Shay@f61.n369.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Shay)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Psoriasis
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:36:22 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:369/61 - Med-Talk BBS!, Lauderhill FL

Hello, Does anyone here know of any research studies, or medical centers
that treat psoriasis? I have had psoriasis for approx 11 years. It has
had times where it has covered up to 70% BSA. I have noticed that every
time I experience other medical problems it seems to really go out of
control. I have a history of 8 laminectomies and went back on workers
comp in Jan due to my back again. I was able to maintain its remissive
stage until about 3 weeks ago. Now it is covering approx 50% BSA and is
still getting worse. I have tried everything from topical ointments to
Methotraxate. Methotrexate used in conjunction with inpatient PUVA, and
a few of the other standard treatments have been helpful and gets
cleared up within 3-4 weeeks. Unfortunately due to the fact that I am
again on workers comp I was unable to keep up on my health insurance and
it lapsed. I am an E.M.T. (although I do not know if I will be able to
return to my functions as a F.T.O.) however it is quite embarrasing and
I really need to get it taken care of because it is also getting quite
painful. I would be willing to travel anywhere in ordeer to accomplish
this. Any information pertaining to any research studies would be
greatly appreciated!                        Thank you,
                                              Bob



 

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From: M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Units?
Date: 2 Apr 92 20:09:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: mwvm.167BDD52D.M20614
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

What's the difference between IUs (International Units) and USP
(United States Pharmacopeia) units?  Do either of these have anything
to do with the "unit" that's 1 microliter (1/1000 of a cc)?
 
[I don't believe IUs have anything to do with the SI (Systeme Internationale)
system of measures -- I was a physics major long ago; I know SI units.]
 
**  Hugh Pritchard,  hapritch@mitre.org,  703/883-6616
From: tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Dentists & Doctors slaves to people with AIDS?
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:38:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: U.TSF.92Apr6173855
	<TSF.92Apr1140132@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU>
	<1992Apr3.153615.4003@fig.citib.com>
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: tsf@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <1992Apr3.153615.4003@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
   |>    Put yourself in the position of the
   |>    patient. This question has nothing to do with doctors discriminating
   |>    against patents that have AIDS. 
   |> 
   |> I hope that regardless of what troubles I encounter, I will not coerce
   |> or advocate coercion.  I hope that I don't panic in the face of
   |> adversity and discard my principles. 

   Panic?  A person with AIDS encounters all sorts of
   life-threatening but treatable infections.  If handled
   correctly, a person with one of these infections can
   look forward to (at least) several more years of 
   productive life.  Can you honestly tell me that if
   you were in this situation, you would just go home and
   die when refused treatment?  

Well, first I would look hard for another doctor.

   Find another doctor who will treat you?  You're
   sick and you're tired and you're trying to hold
   on to your job, and now you have to get the names
   of doctors who you *hope* will treat you and try
   to get an appointment.  Meanwhile, your fever is
   raging and you can barely get out of bed to feed
   yourself.  I'm sure that the knowledge that all 
   these doctors are able to turn you away because
   of their dislike of AIDS patients will provide you
   solace.

No, it wouldn't.  But that wouldn't give me the right to demand it.
One thing that would help here is to organize some easy way for people
with AIDS to find those doctors who have agreed to treat people with
AIDS.  But then, these fines for the misbehaving doctors would make
such a task essentially impossible.

   I believe that a doctor who refuses to treat someone 
   in this condition because they don't want to be bothered
   or because they don't care for the person's sexual
   orientation or because they want to pretend that
   their profession is risk-free is cruel.  

I agree.

   I don't
   think cruel people make good doctors, 

I agree.

   and it seems
   that the $10K fine shows that others in the medical
   profession feel the same way.

I agree.  Hanging or electrocuting them would show the same thing.
I'm trying to say that this large fine is not an appropriate penalty,
just as hanging the misbehaving doctors would be an inappropriate
penalty.  Doing something nasty to a person just to send a message to
others about how you feel is a bit twisted, don't you think?

Tim
From: greg@rio.Columbia.NCR.COM (Greg Porr)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Questions about Asthma
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:57:39 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Originator: greg@rio


I've had asthma for about 13 years.  It didn't show up until I was in
high school, but as I recall, it quickly became fairly severe.  I haven't
had any attacks for at least 7 years, as it is fortunately well controlled
by a number of drugs.  However, the last time I tried to cut down on one
of my medications (at my doctor's suggestion), I found that my lung capacity
felt weakened.  I didn't have an attack, but I felt as if there was
a significant difference in how my lungs felt until I took my next dose.

I took a skin-prick test 10 or so years ago, and if I recall, they found I
was allergic to mites and house dust, but I never received shots.  I have
found on a few occasions that if I'm exposed to too much cigarette smoke
(such as sleeping in a house where the owners are regular smokers), I need
to increase the frequency with which I use one of my inhalers.

Is there any hope that I might outgrow the asthma?  I'm 29, and I find that
I can exercise as much as I want.  My impression is that things are controlled
but not improving, since I haven't been able to stop.  I'm currently taking
600mg of Theopylline twice a day, a corticosteroid inhaler, cromolyn sodium,
and terbutaline.

I'd be interested in hearing from both the medical types and other patients.

-- Greg Porr
   (greg@rio.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM)
From: manley@optilink.UUCP (Dave Manley)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: selling organs
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:22:41 GMT
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products

In article <s_lj5t+.ccat@netcom.com> ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) posts:

[...description of organ selling in China deleted...]

> Don't be so naiive- money talks......

1.  I may be naive.  Please tell me how it talks. 
    Sitting in an ICU and hospital watching a half-dozen children get
transplanted over a few months I've seen how it talks with people
worried about their insurance running out, or how it talks in a South
American family raising a quarter of a million dollars to pay medical
costs, I've seen it talk where patients with insurance pay 75 cents on
the dollar to cover costs that the state does not for those who do not
have insurance.  I've heard in the past a rich princess of a Middle
East country recived a donor organ in the US by paying a very high 
dollar price (something like four times normal). I also heard she 
received the organ because no one else could use it.  I see money
talking as it prohibits the poor or uninsured from being transplanted.
I could see it talking in a case where two people could both use
the organ and the "less important" person is given a lower priority.
That has probably happened.  How often?

Do you see money talking in other ways?  Do you know of transplants
occurring in the US with purchased out-of-country organs?

2. My posting was in response to someone worried (paranoid) about
   being killed in an ICU so his ogran(s) could be used to save
MrRichPolicitalImportantPerson. 

Tell me how the protections that I described, that are in place in the
US organ donation process are going to be circumvented, so that
MrSeriouslyInjuredNobody is going to be murdered by his doctors.

3. Organ selling, certainly does occur in other countries, particulary
   very poor countries. Part of the reason may be cultural or religious -
some believe the dead body must be intact in order to achieve
whatever they believe they are going to get in the afterlife.
In that culture how are you going to get organs?  They must come
from the living, as in kidneys, or they must come from out of the
country, or the transplant candidate must travel to a country where
organs are available.  Japan is a major problem in the transplant
world.  The religious beliefs of most Japanese do not allow the 
heart to be removed until, if I remember correctly a day(?) after
it has stopped beating.  As a result Japan is a sink for donor hearts
but sources none.

4. How do you see the current system of organ procural 
   in the US being transformed into a seller's market of organs?  
What do you think of the ethics of someone selling one of their kidneys 
for whatever price they can get?  What do you think of the ethics of
a doctor who takes an organ in a for-profit scheme?

---
Dave Manley
Xref: sparky sci.med:8630 misc.kids:12934
From: dsr@chickpea.mitre.org (Douglas S. Rand)
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Headaches in pre-pubescent girl
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:34:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: chickpea.DSR.92Apr14113453
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <167C8758D.M20614@mwvm.mitre.org> M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard) writes:

    My almost-10-yr-old daughter suffers from an occasional (every month or so)
    headache (above her eye), leading within a few hours to vomiting.

    It's happened often enough over the past year or so that my wife and I think
    we should take her to be seen by a neurologist -- her ophthalmologist could
    find nothing wrong.

    An explanation could be that this is due to her approaching menarche, however.
    If so, perhaps the headaches will stop when she starts menstruating.

    We'd appreciate any advice, observations, or war stories.  (We do indeed
    intend to seek medical advice.)  Thanks!

I've suffered from migraines since I was twelve.  My biggest regret is
that no attempt was made at the time to provide medicine to prevent
or at least reduce the pain and nausea.  I think the pain is very
hard on a young person,  who is in a poor position to understand 
what is happening,  it is still difficult for me,  at times,  as a
full grown man.  

I encourage you to get her to a neurologist,  but start with
your GP and make sure other posibilities are ruled out.  

Clearly she will be unable to avoid her triggers if they are hormonal,
but you may find other factors that are controllable in her life such
as her diet.  There are many things they can do to prevent or reduce the
severity of the migraines.

Best wishes.

--
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From: francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Dentists & Doctors slaves to people with AIDS?
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:49:01 GMT
Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France)

In article <14183@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>I think many people underestimate the true degree of discrimination
>that exists against AIDS patients. I have known of situations where
>hospital employees refused to go into the rooms of AIDS patients,
>and therefore denied them very basic services.

Anecdotally, a late friend of mine told me that one of the more
relieving points of his treatments in the mid-80's (in Cedars-Sinai
Hospital in West Hollywood), was when he complained about the food and
his attendant picked up his spoon and took a bite and agreed that it
was not Cordon Bleu competition, and that he'd find something more
palatable.

The hospital allowed family, friends, and lovers to stay in a special
area near the ill, kept a few rooms for those who wanted to be there
round-the clock, and waived all restrictions for "visiting hours" and
whatnot. They did not have "isolation wards" except for the patients
whom they believed were fragile (rather than those who would infect
visitors).

>cases where patients ended up living in the hospital, for up to
>two years, who were not acutely ill, because it was impossible to
>find a place for them to live. Leper colonies would be more humane
>than the way these people are treated.

This contrasts with another late friend whose treatment at the hands
of hospital authorities in New York doesn't bear repeating except that
it would illustrate a type of total lack of human compassion.

They don't seem to freak out here in France for my ill friends at all.


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From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Business cards
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:52:27 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <ktrit9INNei7@ucsd.edu>, Gene Spafford <spaf@cs.purdue.edu> writes:
> If you call the ``Children's Make a Wish'' foundation, you will find
> that they are not soliciting any form of card for Craig Shergold or
> anyone else.  Better yet, if you call the Guinness people (US
> publisher is "Facts on File" @ 212-683--2244 ext. 336), you can get
> this same story confirmed.  You will also find that they will no
> longer endorse or support any effort to break this record.

Little Teddy Feuerbach is slowly dying of old age...  He desperately
wants to get in the Guinness Book for having the most money.  Please
send your money (in cash, small bills, no rubles [sorry, CIS'ers])
to the address below.  Let's all help make the last decades of his
life happy and comfortable!  Please pass this on to all your friends
and family.

Any similarity in name is pure coincidence.                  ;-)

  TED FEUERBACH   Scientific Systems Consultant  Trilogy Consulting, Inc. 
  Lake St. Louis, MO        (314) 537-6603       tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
  Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed herein are MY OWN and obviously not
  the opinions of Trilogy, Monsanto or either of my two ex-wives.