From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Critical mass getting bigger?
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:40:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.023758.18908@usl.edu>, das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
|> In article <10667547.163.715998171@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:
|> >In article <1992Sep8.152217.21004@newshost.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
|> >>From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
|> >>Subject: Re: Critical mass getting bigger? - was re: AmigaWorld Lies about Links
|> >>Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:22:17 GMT
|> >>>It seams with a lot of these new RPG (which I happen to like) is that is 
|> >>>just adding more of the same without putting anything new into the genre.
|> >>
|> >>	I would say Ultima Underworld is pretty inovative.
|> >
|> >I haven't seen this.  How much hard-drive real-estate does it take up?  None 
|> >of my PC owning friends seem to want to spend more than 5meg (of h/d real-
|> >estate) on a game and won't pay more than $0 dollars for it.  So I doubt I 
|> >see it in action.  I've haven't seen Wing Commander yet either...  Piracy is 
|> >getting pretty rampant over on the pc-side.  I don't know anyone who has the 
|> >original Windows package!
|> 
|> It take 9 megs w/o the LONG LONG digitized speech + animation intro scenes
|> (and maybe at the end, I haven't finished it yet).  With it, it take 13 megs.
|> 
|> WCI takes 4-5 megs, I think.  WCII take ~20 megs.  As does Ultima 7.
|> I DO suggest making 13 megs of space on a VGA+Soundblaster PC and getting
|> Ultima Underworld.

That's why, no matter WHAT the technological situation, nobody will make games
like this for the Amiga until it has an installed user base of 5-10 million. If
they tried, the return on the investment would be nonexistant and they'd be out
of business before they could bring out a sequel.

|> Remember how TOTALLY FREAKING AWESOME Dungeon Master was when it first came
|> out?  Well....I've finished Dungeon Master...and Ultima Underworld puts DM
|> to shame! Comparing Underworld to DM is like comparing DM to...overhead-shot
|> RPGs.  Really - I loved DM but Ultima Underworld is SO good.
|> 

Yeah, but DM has been topped on the Amiga, too.... Nice, tho. One of those 
"little touches" games, with the extra stuff thrown in to make it a little more
real.

|> And I might make a very positive note for Eye of the Beholder.  Is it
|> available for the Amiga yet?

SIGH. We're not exactly in the DARK AGES here, y'know. We have EOB, we even have
EOBII and Ultima 6! Golly-gee!

|> >>	Lets wait and see what Commodore releases and at what price its
|> >>   gonna cost.  If the AA chipset machines are priced like the 040 A3000T,
|> >>   not many game software compaines are going to support the AA chipset.
|> >>   
|> >>							G.Greene
|> >
|> >I'll be interested in what the prices are going to be like.  I read a quote 
|> >from a Commodore engineering talking about "new technology" and "
|> >competitively priced" in reply to criticisms on "internet"? in a magazine.
|> >If the new machines aren't well priced, I'll be getting a '386dx clone too.
|> >I'll keep my amiga though, as it's an interesting machine.  I sold/junked my 
|> >Vic-20, Commodore-64, Apple clone, IBM XT clone, so it's the only machine I 
|> >have ever considered keeping.
|> 
|> Unless you want to get, say, a 486 instead.  Depending on your machine,
|> you *might* sell it enough to get a mega-486.  Considered it?
|> 
|> >Jim Fang - Bachelor of Economics (3) / B.E (3) .-_|\        Snail Mail
|> >InterNet  10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au     \_.-._/       Brentford Square
|> > E-Mail:  kroddos@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au            o     // Victoria 3131
|> >          ece950aec3@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au       AMIGA \X/  Australia
|> 
|> -- 
|> Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
|> " BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
|>         -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech

P.S> I'm REALLY sorry about the extra-long quoting. I'm TRYING to find out how
to block delete. Nobody seems to know how!!!

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