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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Wartime Spagthorpe
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:20:11 GMT

In article <728065117snz@morgan.demon.co.uk> tony@morgan.demon.co.uk writes:
}accompanying figures clearly outlined a bike based on the pre-war Thunderer
}prototype that vas never produced owing to the intervention of hostilities.
                ^^^
}back, I presumed to copy it. When she returned it was with a grim faced
}little man who informed me that the document had been declassified in error
}and it would be better for me if I forgot that I had ever seen it. I thought
}that I had even better let the net know just in case anything happens to me.

As is obvious from your little "vas" instead of "was" slip above, the
little man knew that you were a holdover German spy, and so had good
reason to keep the plans from you. I'll bet you wear one of those
helmets with the big Kaiser spike on top, don't you, Fritz?

"God is obviously on our side; we have the Spagthorpes"
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721	KotB		'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD?!?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:33:42 GMT
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division

In article <1993Jan26.144811.8689@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>Ok, now we're talking.  I know, well kill two birds with one stone.
>All of us North American DoD'er will fly across the pond, and conduct
>our UK vs. US health system flame war in person, over several nice pints.

There are some North Americans who couldn't give a hoot about the US vs. UK
health system flame war, but the several nice pints sounds just fine. It's
also ok with me if Diet Coke is the official drink of the DoD, as long as
I don't have to drink it.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Toys
Keywords: youth
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:20:24 GMT

davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.153544.23604@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

>>Anyone else have a "VRROOM" for their bicycle?

>I did.  I absolutely loved it.  Loved it to death, in fact, the fate of
>most of my toys which had moving parts.  I took them all apart.

Going back a few more years, I can't be the only one that took his
tricycle apart and reassembled the steering head upside down to make a
three wheel chopper, can I? Or did that commercial rip-off, the Big
Wheel, kill a wonderful cottage industry?

Oh, baseball cards in the spokes were good for at least 50 extra HP.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls)
Subject: Re: What metzeler recommends for tire pressures
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:11:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.152607.11748@bnr.ca> space@bcarh2b1 (Scott Pace) writes:
>Lisa DeLorme (delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu) wrote:
            <very good info on tire inflation deleted>
>
>The pressures listed above are several pounds higher than what Suzuki
>recommends.
>
>WHO DO I BELIEVE on this issue?
>
>--
>Scott Pace, space@bnr.ca - the final frontier

Believe the Manufacturer of the tire! They do the testing. All Suzuki
does is order the tire from Metzler cuz metzler gave them a better 
price than Dunlop or Avon, etc.

Jolly Roger
From: sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com (Rod Sprattling)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: REQ: Who Am I?
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:46:28 GMT
Reply-To: sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com (Rod Sprattling)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

Quite some time ago I joined the DoD, but have
been away from rec.motorcycles for a while
and have lost my membership number.  Who's the
O-fishal Keeper of the Membership Roster?

Rod
---
Roderick Sprattling		| 
sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com	| Where there's a will, there's a lawyer.
From: delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Need Computer Advice
Date: 29 Jan 1993 03:15:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Not moto related, but you guys are the only computer guru's I know.

I am a member of a mailing list that is growing large and unmanagable (not
the short list!) and would like to convert it to a newsgroup. How is
this done? Do I see someone on my campus or is their some central Usenet
administration guru somewhere I would have to go through. Presumably, the
people who created the harley and dirt groups know something about this.

e-mail is best, Let's not bore everyone


-- 
Lisa DeLorme                            
delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
                    Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: Definitive HD TV/Vid Authorized Collectible
Organization: Pages Software Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:12:43 GMT

617 writes
> In article <4619@cvbnetPrime.COM> rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Dick Bemben)  
writes:
> >|In article <4612@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617)  
275-1800 x2317) writes:

> P.S.	Actually, come to think of it; this gal who would make me push my
> bike off a cliff better be pretty stacked. I guess that would play a major
> role in the decision after thinking about it a bit. I mean shit, my fuckin
> bike would cost about $15k to replace.

Nah, emotions change with the wind and fade with age.  The bike'll just remain  
in it's present state and improve with age.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: npet@bnr.ca (Neil Harrington)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:35:44 GMT

John.Hamilton@kennel.fidonet.org wibbled:
: Thursday January 21 1993 05:16, Richard Taylor wrote to All:

:  >> Do you see any American football players not wearing a helmet?

:  RT> Do you see motorcyclists trying to headbutt brick walls?
:  RT> Repeatedly?  :-)

: The Hurt report, and numerous other factual studies, indicate that indeed
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: motorcyclists have a marked tendency to "headbutt brick walls", be they in
: the form of curbs, poles, or cars. "Repeatedly" has nothing to do with it,
: we've all seen American football players loose their helmets and get injured.
: Sports Illustrated gave away an "exciting" video with such scenes. It only
: takes "Once" to do the damage.

: John

This is a joke, yes?

You never know with you Amerinadians.


Nick (the Bemused Biker)   DoD 1069  Small piece of green putty I found under m


M'Lud.
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Not motorcycles
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:37:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

Sorry for the wide area coverage but there's no New England area in my
Pnews - so if you're not from New England and don't like auto racing
hit the "n" key now...

If you are...

	I am an AUTO racing fan and as such I have a block of seats up at NHIS
    that are right on the start/finish line, rows 19 & 20.  These seats are 
    for the New England 200 Indy car race on August 8 and I have 6 available
    at the COST ($45.00).  This race was a sell out last year and was quite a
    spectacle.

	I would like to maintain this seating arrangement (I have a subscription
    with NHIS) and consequently would like them to go to people that I "know"
    and that would enjoy racing...even if it isn't motorcycles!  As a friend of
    mine says "You can't get seats at NHIS that are much better than these!".

	Additionally, I have, AT COST, 1 seat left (same section) for the 
    first Winston 300 NASCAR event on July 11.  Price is $55.00 and this race
    is already sold out...scalpers would probably be asking > $100 for this 
    seat!

	If you are at all interested in the Indy car race I need $$$$ in hand
    by Feb. 6 (that's when NHIS wants MY money).  For the Winston race, the
    ticket's already bought & paid for but is just extra.  I would like the 
    money for it as soon as possible.  John Lupien - I recall that you were
    interested in this race...do you want this & if so let me know ASAP.

	Please email me if you are interested...

	Rich

Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
1977 750 Triumph Bonneville                 (617) 275-1800 x 4173
"Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil, but heaven protect
 us from the evil men do in the name of good"
From: jack@totaltec.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A More Strident DoD Watch Call for Orders IV
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:07:42 GMT
Followup-To: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu,rec.motorcycles
Distribution: na,usa
Organization: Total Tec Systems, Inc.

> order you the Watch on faith.  I'm a nice guy, really -- ask my Mom.
> 
 Hey Cliff -

	I just checked with your mom - she's says she's never
	even heard of you!!!

 - Jack
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: 92 VFR750's
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:36:23 GMT

In article <6560@balrog.ctron.com> tavares@ctron.com writes:
>
>Well make sure you check the plug wires frequently.
>You wouldn't want to get stuck somehwere in a rain storm because of
>spongy wires.
>Get stuck somewhere like, oh I dont know, Conn/Penn border in a torrential
>downpour would be a bummer.
>
Yeah, it would be.  Esp. since Ct. and Pa. don't share a border. :-)

Dean
-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:21:23 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1993Jan25.134143.25793@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
> In the referenced article, tomes@iastate.edu writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:

> Can't be bothered to say any more on the subject after this post.

Thank you! ;-)

> 
> -- 
> # Tim Stickland # bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk #  It's not cynicism.  I just think   #
> # School of Biology, Univ. of Bath,     #  people overvalue argument because  #
> # Bath, BA2 7AY, U.K. # TEL +44 (0)225  #  they like to hear themselves talk. #
> # 826826 x5864 # FAX +44 (0)225 826779  #   (Iain Banks)                      #
-- 
Bruce Clarke       B.C. Environment
                   e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: are my cases ruined?
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:21:33 GMT

In article <C14DE5.33p@cup.hp.com> Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com> writes:
>Jeff Achenbach (achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com) wrote:
>: I don't know if it's really possible or economical with aluminum, but how
>: about spray welding the case then remachining the opening to the proper size?
>
>according the the mechanic, the reason for not doing this is
>because the aluminum will expand more than the insert when 
>the engine warms up (and then spin).
>
>he claimed that the insert was put into the case by pouring
>in the aluminum around it.
>
      That should be less effective than making the hole slightly undersize
and assembling it with the case heated and the bearing chilled. That is,
unless the bearing race is knurled or "spined" like Harleys Evo engine
cylinder liners. In that case, the aluminum might bond to the iregularities
and stick better than a "shrink" fit. Anyway, if the bearing seizes (maybe
what happened to yours), a shrink fit will cause less damage to the case
than casting the races in, so you may be better off than stock if you fix
it this way.


Ed Campbell
        Email ed@Tekelec.com (seems to work)
doh 0000005774 

'57 FL '76 XLCH  My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


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From: ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FYI: '93 Jap. bike sp
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:10:00 GMT
Reply-To: ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - Vancouver B.C. - (604)986-9937 (604)255-9937


JF>ljb89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Berrie LJ) writes:
JF>|> The list made very interesting reading ... but I have a query ...
JF>|>
JF>|> Some of the Horsepower figures seem extremely low. Like the ZXR 750.
JF>|> I thought it was well over 100PS, not the 77PS the mag prints. The same
JF>|> with the CBR 600. That is 100PS at the moment, not 69PS. The litre
JF>|> sportsbikes seem to be spot on, so it seems odd.
JF>Could be typos on my part.  10 minutes after posting the list I left
work JF>to come to The States, so I was a bit rushed in preparing it.
JF>I've just gotten to CMU, and will check for mistakes....
JF>|> It's not a printing mistake because the power-to-weight ratio is
consiste
JF>The power-to-weight ratios are computed. I used a perl program to
massage JF>the raw data I typed in.

I think I can shed some light on this: typically, manufacturers will
publish crankshaft horsepower. This is what the engine puts out when
sitting on a test bench, free of the motorcycle. When motorcycle
magazines (or for that matter, dyno-equipped bike shops) measure
horsepower, they put the whole bike on a dynamometer, which has a very
heavy rotating drum under the rear wheel. This effectively simulates the
normal condition of the engine working under load. The bike is run
through the gears, and the dyno spits out a horsepower graph. This graph
will always show less horsepower than the crankshaft figure because of
friction losses through the transmission, chain/shaft/belt, and rear
wheel. What you are comparing are mfr's figures (about 100hp for the
CBR600F2) and "real-world" figures. Rear-wheel horsepower is a better
figure for a couple of reasons:

1) It accounts for different power losses through the drivetrain on
different bikes.

2) Published figures for cars are in SAE net, or
rear-wheel, so you can compare the pwr/wt. ratio of your Kawi EX500 with
a Corvette ZR-1 and giggle maniacally.

3) Manufacturers have been known to embellish the truth about horsepower
figures with capitalistic intent. Motorcycle magazines should have a
reputation for integrity, not to mention no incentive to lie.

4) It's easier and cheaper for an interested party to find a rear-wheel
dyno to throw her/his bike on than to take the engine out of the frame.
Thus, you can compare the output of your shiny new ZX-7R to the one in
the magazine.

You forget that even the "low" figure of 77 PoniesStandard (PS) amounts
to a great pwr/wt. ratio.

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From: meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: gel-cell batteries Re: rec.motorcycles FAQ of 93.01.01 (Part 4 of 5)
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:00:37 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group, Seattle

bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (THIS SIDE DOWN) writes:
-dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
-
--Q:  The battery in my ZX-10 died.  I can get a generic replacement for
--    $43 or a no-maintenance "gel-cell" battery for $82.  Is the gel-cell
--    worth it?
-
-My first question would be "how often do you drop your motorcycle or
-operate it leaned so far over that the electolyte spills out of the top
-of the battery?" -- the big advantage to gel-cells it that they may be

No matter how far it is leaned over whilst riding, the forces acting on
the electrolyte will still remain perpendicular to the battery.  (In
other words none should spill out).

Anybody hear about Boeing Test Pilot Tex Johnston doing a barrel roll
over Lake Washington in the first Boeing 707 (Dash 80) in 1957 in front
of a bunch of astonished airline execs and a pissed-off Boeing Prez?  I
know, who cares, but he had to perform that as a 1 G maneuver. 
Otherwise, the fuel pickups would have sucked air.  That was some good
flying. 

-- 
Michael "Chuck" Bain                       meb4593@icdfs.ca.boeing.com  
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		     "Semi-Loud Pipes Save Lives"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD
Organization: Pages Software Inc.
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:09:52 GMT

Ramana Bodepude writes
> 
> 
> I hereby nominate "DIET COKE" as the official drink of the DoD
> for their cool advt. which shows a caption saying
> 
> 	"Insurance agents who speed"
> 
> and shows two guys racing on sport bikes (Not HD's) and we can hear 
> the slogan "taste it all" playing in the background.

I slowed a videotape down and discovered the red one in front was a Ducati  
Corsa 888 and the rear one was (I think) a goof2.  Hmmmmm.... he said.
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: First Bike Opinions
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:26:40 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Jody Levine (jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca) quibbled:
: In article <1993Jan21.145600.9446@bnr.uk> npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:

: Who is Neil Harrington, Nick?

He's my boss.  He recently authorised a change to my account and the system
maintenance people put his name as well as mine into the Email system with the
result that I received _all_ his Email as well as mine and that his name was
used for the Email and Newsnet headers.  They've managed to repair half of it
by now, another week should pass before the rest is fixed!

: >I'm currently saving all the money I save by riding my BMW masochistic form/
: >function moped in order to purchase a _real_ vehicle. I'm going to get a new
: >SAAB.

: Nah. Too much trouble. Get a blow-up mattress and sleep in your office.
: You can live on that wonderful cafeteria food, have the luxury of 24 hr
: security and someone else vacuums the carpet and empties the trash cans. You
: could even have movie parties in the auditorium and show all six Star-Trek
: flicks to your geeky friends whenever you want. Go *outside*?? Heck no,
: it's way too dangerous.

: I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
:      got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
:                          ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Your right!  I'm going to move in tomorrow.

This will mean that I can post when you foreign lot are at work.

What's this "rampant stupidity" stuff?


Nick (the plug-in lifestyle Biker)   DoD 1069  Concise Oxford

M'Lud.
From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Sneaky Police Motorcyclists (UK)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:33:20 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK) Ltd
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com

Has anyone come across the police motorcyclists on unmarked bikes in the UK.
It would be most unfair to meet a fellow biker, beat him in a fair race, then
get nicked by him for speeding.

I saw one in Leicestershire recently in plain leathers on a black BMW.
I recognised him by his large feet, pointed head, aerial and the fact that he
was posing next to a uniformed police motorcyclist.


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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Know of any motorcycles movies?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:57:02 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>I still stick by my nomination of the Lone Biker of the Apocalypse in
>Raising Arizona as the quintessential DoD role model. Unless you guys
>have started liking cute little bunnies instead of llamas....

I second the motion that the LBotA be the "official DoD Role Model". Now we
all must get tattoos of the thrush muffler bird. 
-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
From: rsteele@adam.ll.mit.edu (Rob Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:53:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: xn.1993Jan26.155312.26936
Reply-To: rob@ll.mit.edu
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <C1FH58.6L0@inews.Intel.COM> rbodepud@sedona.intel.com  
(Ramana Bodepude) writes:
> 
> 
> I hereby nominate "DIET COKE" as the official drink of the DoD
> for their cool advt. which shows a caption saying
> 
> 	"Insurance agents who speed"

They done good but not that good.  I think we might elevate Diet Coke  
to DoD official spooge solvent (DoDoSS) on a probationary basis though.

-------------------------------------------------------
Rob Steele                            rob@ll.mit.edu
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St., M-203            Children are hereditary;
Lexington, MA  02173          if your parents didn't have
617/981-2575                    any, neither will you.