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From: laura@hoptoad.uucp (Laura Creighton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:49:43 GMT
Reply-To: laura@hoptoad.UUCP (Laura Creighton)
Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco

In article <1992Oct4.003535.8435@Princeton.EDU> elliott@leda.princeton.edu (Frank W. Elliott) writes:
>  The proper context would be another time zone!
>  As much as I like cilantro, a bowl of pulverized cilantro would stink
>  to high Heaven.  _La cilantro es bueno pero no tanto._

``La cilantro?''  No es ``El cilantro?''

El cilantro (La cilantro?) -- bastante es tanto.
-- 
    Since Ryan White was buried in April 1990, his grave has been vandalized
    four times.

    (this news courtesy Rod Williams rjwill6@pacbell.com)

Laura Creighton 
toad@toad.com
hoptoad!laura
From: scotts@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Safier)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: on Cinemax in October
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:31:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: MORPHEUS.SCOTTS.92Sep28103109
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: scotts@MORPHEUS.CIMDS.RI.CMU.EDU

There are two good movies on Cinemax in October (for those with cable
or access to it).  Both are gay related.

POISON -- Three tales by avante garde French writer Jean Genet are
reproduced.  This movie had National Endowment for the Arts support,
and was targeted by right-wing and fundamentalist groups for its
"homoerotic content".  It won the best film prize at the Sundance Film
Festival. 
Cinemax -- 10/12 @ 10p, 10/20 @ 11:45p, 10/28 @ 1:40a

Voices from the Front -- This documentary delves into the plight
against AIDS from increasing awareness of the HIV virus and prevention
of it to actual human trageties and the fight for more government
intervention.  
Cinemax: 10/10 @ 1p, 10/15 @ 5p, 10/28 @ 2p

FYI,

Scott Safier                                   corwin+@cmu.edu
Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
        
member, T.S.A.K.C.  B0/1 f+ w- g k+ s- m(+) e++
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Re: gay science fiction
Originator: elf@halcyon.com
Reply-To: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Organization: Pendor, UnLtd.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 11:12:29 GMT

In article <BvKxpJ.Bn1@unix.amherst.edu>
      twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)> writes:

>Most of them seemed worse.  In fact, some of the better pieces in
>alt.sex.stories beat Heinlein for plot and characterization by a
>mile...

   Why, *thank you*, Tim.  :-)  I'll take that as the most backhanded
compliment I've seen in years...

            Elf !!!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:54:33 GMT

mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob >Donahue) wrote:

>> 	To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't know a $2500 Fashionable
>> Italian Suit if it bit me in the ass.  

>Actually, you probably *would* recognize a $2,500 suit, just as you would
>know that a twenty dollar entree was not McDonald's.  Certainly, if you
>saw someone in a $2,500 suit (a mid-range Armani) standing next to someone
>in a generic suit from Macy's (costing perhaps four or five hundred) -
>you would recognize the difference.  

	Really, (and I *never* thought I'd ever say this!) you're
giving me too much credit.  In day-to-day life these are things I
just don't notice...  I might be able to distinguish between
a poorly-made/fitting suit and a tailor-made one.  But that's
about it.  Call me a heathen.  But somehow I've managed to get by 
in the lasdt 29.985 years - and with only slight remedial fashion
lessons for things like colloquia, lectures, etc.  I'l lprobably get
by for another 29.985 years.  

>It is more than a label on the
>inside.  The cut would likely be perfectly tailored to the individual,
>the fabric would glow, and the person wearing it would probably carry
>him (or her) self with more confidence.  In a room full of suits, an
>Armani does not fade into the background (unless everyone in the room
>is so attired).  And that is a major point of fashion (or coloring in
>the animal kingdom, for that matter).  To be seen and respected.

	Ah, but then doesn't it fall flat on it's face?  (At
least wrt to someone like me who wouldn't notice such things?)
I mean I'm so analytical, that I would be thinking more of the
reason we were all in the room and working on that.  Trying to
distinguish suit parameterizations would be quite far from my mind
in any case.  If the reason for the congregation was something
surrounding the suits themselves, I think it's a safe assumption
I wouldn't be there... :-)   but if someone's spending $2500 on clothes
to impress me it's a waste of $$$... 

	Distinctive coloring/fashion in the animal kingdom also
tends to get one full of buckshot...  :-) :-) :-)

	Now, I will say this on the idea of suits:  Bears in suits
drive me crazy.   I mean we're talking Pavlovian.  It's not the suit
or the make and model of the suit, per se... it's the image.
I mean they look like walking Xmas packages waiting to be unwrapped.
So for the pro-suit category - yeah I can really like suits.
I would have a LOT of fun (and I mean a LOT) taking their clothes off
[in some instances, tearing them out might be nice... :-]...
But let's face it - $2500 is a lot to spend on a fantasy!  :-) :-) :-)

>Melmothra, ACC

BBC
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Camille Paglia on fashion (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 10:27:41 GMT


In article <1992Oct3.063615.25123@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com
(Jack Hamilton) writes:

Of the famous Jeff Dauber:

>And it's probably safe to say that he is the most visible
>regular poster to soc.motss.  

Most completely visible, certainly.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: What is "Sexual Orientation"?
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:44:50 GMT

> jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew) writes:
>
>These anti-discrimination in employment/housing/etc. laws don't say "You have
>to hire homosexuals."  Rather, they say "You cannot refuse to hire
>homosexuals."  There is a subtle, but important difference there.

Speaking of subtle but important differences, said laws actually
say you cannot refuse to hire *anyone* on the mere basis of their
sexual orientation.
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From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: gay science fiction
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:13:54 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <tdober-011092191158@toberkamper.llnl.gov> tdober@llnl.gov (TDO) writes of my possibly rash contention that Ann Maxwell wrote using gay
characters: 
>
>Could you provide details (book titles, character names) please? I think
>I've read everything she's written, including _Fire Dancer_/_Dancer's
>Luck_/_Dancer's Illusion_, and can't think of *any* gay characters at all.
>
  A challenge!
  Well, you may be right, I am relying on memories from reading these
  ten or more years ago.  They did not constitute rereading material.
  I'll have to check; I hope the termites didn't get them (they did
  get my Jonathan Livingston Seagull, thank gawd).

  Is at least your recollection that the Maxwell stories were set
  in a culture with slavery and that a male protagonist was a 
  slave to a master with whom (as *I* recall) he had considerable
  s/m interactions (ostensibly wrt "training")?  A rose by any
  other name, but opinions may differ.

>John Varley's Gaea series (_Titan_, _Wizard_, _Demon_) has a number of
>lesbian and bisexual women, all strongly and positively portrayed.
  
  My turn.  The culture these women came from was an all-female 
  culture, no males allowed.  Under these circumstances, sex was
  perforce limited to motss sex.  Actually Robin, the female
  protagonist, spends most of her time learning to deal sexually
  with a male.  (But they are strong, excellent characters, true.)
  Who else was specifically gay or lesbian?  (Remember John Varley 
  deals frequently with E-Z sex change, although not in these
  books.)

>
>Vonda McIntyre's series (_Starfarers_, _Transition_, _Metaphase_, and
>presumably more to come--I hope she hurries!) involves a group marriage
>between a woman and two men.
   Tell me, do the men have sex?  Or is it like Heinlein, motss
   sex is only acceptable when it's between two women and
   the male occupies the space between them?  (The male being,
   of course, Heinlein himself.)

>
>I actually know a lot more fantasy books with lesbigay characters than
>science fiction; let me know if you're interested in titles.
>
   Agreed, there are not a lot of hard science fiction writers
   who use LBG characters any more than incidentally.

   Wayne
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:45:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.140502.18776@spdcc.com>, rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
> cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe) writes:
> >but with mate?
> 
> 	Um, yeah, not that it really matters.  You're just adding
> another externalized "test" (well, he might talk a great game but if he
> can't land the bohunk of his dreams, he's a failure of course).

Hmm... that's not how I read this. It was a response to a list of your
possibly-"attractive" characteristics; I thought the question was
directed at finding out if you were available, with an implication of
disappointment if you weren't. Of course, maybe that's colored by *my*
prejudices; I should probably let cbe speak for himself.

Anyway, Bob, dear, sometimes that chip gets a *little* heavy for your
shoulder, don't you think?
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 92 22:20:04 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1amhhuINNkgl@mizar.usc.edu> <1992Oct4.183112.15428@reed.edu>

Nelson Minar writes:
>[adolphson's B.S. deleted]
>Fuck you, Arne. Do you think there is some merit in offending random

Nelson... that's what it's *here* for.

>people by insulting what they feel strongly about, or are you just
>practicing your role as soc.motss.bitchy.queen?

I think that's a little too kind, actually. Most of the "bitchy
queens" I've met *DO* have other modes of interaction than being
a vicious little shit. Arne never has, apparently.

My advice? Ignore it, Nelson. You've got too much on your mind
right now, and even if you didn't -- it's not worth your time
or energy.
 
() Why should we subsidize intellectual curiosity?
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@vccnw02.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: My Very Own Out List
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:34:20 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:


>In article <dcgzqkb@rpi.edu> buckmr@lib110.its.rpi.edu (Ron
>Buckmire) writes:

>>>Daniel J. Travanti

>>Huh??  I had never EVER heard of this before.  HILL STREET
>>BLUES indeed!

>He's from Madison.  I've been hearing it about him ever
>since the heyday of the series, but nothing very definite.
>Said to be a very nice man, too.

Well, that's cool. I believe you, Jess! :-)
The gymanst I'm still not sure there is enough confirmation..


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practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." -- Pat Robertson.
From: dh0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DONALD L. HARDY)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: gay science fiction
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:32:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Storm Constantine has a series out.  "Enchantments of the Spirit" or
something like that.  Through a bizarre mutation human males become
hermaphroditic, but maintain their male identities (by choice rather than
necessity).  They couple, bear children, all sorts of stuff.  Boys kissing
boys in a post-apocalyptic world.  Not too bad.

D.
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Fear of Success (was Re: Oregon poll)
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:33:27 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Oct6.193709.25481@netcom.com>
solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:

>I read an article in the Bay Area Reporter (an S.F. area gay
>weekly) about Measure 9. The article was desperate to paint a
>portrait of impending doom, and it's kind of hard to do that when
>the measure is *losing by two to one*.

>Shyeeah. Let's lighten up, everyone. Measure 9 is going down in
>flames. I, for one, grok a great wellness.

You say lighten up when one-third of your fellow citizens
support that kind of thing?  It should never have been
within the realm of possibility for that kind of bigotry to
gain enough public sanction to exist as a ballot item.  I do
indeed see a kind of doom, whether impending or not, in the
values you imply here.

Wellness, my eye!

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: enough already.
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:20:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.124808.15527@quantime.co.uk>, roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
> 
> I am the very model of a modern homosexual.
> I've electronic mantras and personas to perplex you all.

[etc.]

Bravo, bravo, bravissimo!

Have you, by any chance, ever known what it is to be an orphan?
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Subject: Re: Damon Wayons -- what's the deal?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:47:57 GMT

In article <19762@ector.cs.purdue.edu>,
berninge@cs.purdue.EDU (James Berninger) writes:
>
>Personally, I found the "Men On..." skits rather humorous.  Let's
>face it, they were campy.  And judging from a good number of the
>articles in this group, quite a few of us like camp.

  But not by homophobic straight men like Wayans (sp?).  It's
  about as funny as David Dukkke putting on a "black face" is
  entertaining.

>I have no question that GLAAD or NGLTF should be notified/take
>action against the show(s).  Much of Mr. Donahue's article supports
>this point, and I doubt anyone in this group with half a brain would
>disagree.

  Why should they "take action against the show" if you think it's
  "humorous", as you said in the first paragraph?  (What was that
  about half a brain?)

>Anyone else care to provide more information?

  GLAAD *has* addressed the humorLESS "Men on..." skits.  It's been
  talked about in their newsletter several times.  Obviously, the
  Wayans don't care.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Subject: Re: No on 9 - Concord measure M revisited
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:15:21 GMT

jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:

>Brent Capps (bcapps@agora.rain.com):
> 
>> I think I may have erred.

>It's okay; I'm feeling divine.
>--jns

OOOOH...is this one of those religions where I have to get down on my
*knees* and *grovel* to apologise?

If so, I think I could manage to be a little sorrier.

And I promise it would be a religious experience.

-- 
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bcapps@agora.rain.com | Know what to kiss, and when
bcapps@atlastele.com  |
From: mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: demuffining
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:45:32 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

The Zwick writes:

>awww, these clueless boys, unsure of themselves and intolerant of
>others, they crop up here again and again, making painful nuisances
>of themselves.  i say: make 'em shape up, or hound 'em out!  No...More...
>Whining!

Whining, it seems, is defined as complaints about *The Cabal* <boom>  <crash>
<thud>  Whining is not, it seems, defined as complaints about whiners.
Nor, obviously, as the posting of mouth-watering recipies as a rather
obvious mechanism for drowning out said whiners...

But is it really possible to whine, in print, at all?  Doesn't the whine
depend on a grating, obnoxious drone that can only be truly appreciated
in full stereo?  

Intolerantly yours,

Melmothra, ACC
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Date: 5 Oct 1992 15:48:09 GMT
Organization: sgi
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Oct3.141504.8969@spdcc.com>, rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
|> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
|> >For the record, I'm a Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarian [or as a friend of mine
|> >puts it, I "don't eat Dead Animal Body"].  
|> 
|> 	Hmmmm...  I'm a second-order vegetarian.  I only eat animals
|> that only eat vegetables.

Isn't that a first vegetarian once removed?


FWA
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: evil twins
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:03:06 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam

richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes about me and my baby-brother:

>You'd both make an interesting pair of houseboys.

Moi, houseboy? Interesting indeed.

Let me put it this way(*): my natural habitat seems to be a hotel in a
big city with good room-service.

I've told you what I can do with a pair of clippers, guess what will
happen with a vacuum-cleaner.

						FJ!!

(*) Ok, ba.motssers, name me the person who uses this idiom enough
times per conversation to make it one of his key-phrases - he is not
really on the net, but his lover is, and the author of the first answer
to reach me will get mentioned in my next posting.
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:31:00 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Oct5.211243.28955@riacs.edu>, drogers@riacs.edu (David Christopher Rogers) writes:
|> 
|>     Message-ID: <ld0q73INN8n2@spim.mti.sgi.com> 
|>     From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) 
|> 
|>     >>Beard are hot, shaved heads are hot, shaved bodies are hot, 
|>     >>hairy bodies are hot.
|> 
|> Men are hot.

Women are hot.  Fat is hot, skinny is hot, tattoos are hot, piercings
are hot.

Everyone has their particular taste.  When someone says that a particular
look/style/whatever is unattractive, it means that it is unattractive
to THEM.


FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Toys 'r' Us
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:38:54 GMT

nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:

>Ob*snap*: I know three other queers with exactly Miss Thaaang's haircut.

Eep!!! That's it. Tomorrow I make an appointment to get a Farrah weave
over lunch hour.

John, who honestly *is* distressed about these little revelations

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			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: This Ya Gotta See
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 18:20:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep26.174558.13236@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>Just got this from Adolf Pinkelmann:
>
>"Sometimes you make me wonder if some gays don't really
> deserve some bashing, so they would learn how to show some
> respect for those who have never been unrespectful to them."
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

He doesn't fall into that category, though. 

>Anyone surprised?

Someone, maybe.  Not me. 

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: If you haven't sent your checks to no-on-hate yet, do it!
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:21:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.024612.5736@spdcc.com>, rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
> 	You *just* *don't* *get* *it*, do you?  (This is a rhetorical
> question, we already know that this is the case...)
> 
> 	I didn't lie.  You claimed twice that I did.  You don't have
> any proof to counter me, except "I don't agree, but I can't say anything,
> so I'll call him a liar, and keep doing so until he backs down."
> There's really no response to such a tactic - I certainly can't track
> down the person I talked to on a Saturday in Harvard Square and get
> a signed affidavit for you.  Nor would I, given your behavior.

  Actually, you are the one who is saying that I called you a liar.
I only alluded to that in my previous post. I can only fathom what
mental process produced your little "transcription" of what went 
on in Harvard Square. If a person indeed said these things, then he
is not a libertarian. Unlimited majority rule is not a tenant of any 
brand of libertarianism that I have *ever* seen.
  You are correct though. I do doubt the veracity of your claims.
They are so out of character with any libertarian thought I have
ever seen that I can only guess that you either made it up or
mangled what this guy said beyond recognition. Either way, I
have to doubt your intellectual honesty.
  As far as addressing "issues", you have proven yourself to be
completely irrational on this point. A content free slam like
your "conversation" does not even deserve anything more than 
exposing the strawman for what it is. If you cannot see beyond
that your strawman argument then it is probably hopeless.

> 	As for the continual namecalling, this coping mechanism
> you've developed doesn't work outside of most school playgrounds.
> I suggest you cultivate something a little more mature.

  Hon, I suggest you run to the bathroom and look in the mirror
for about 20 minutes. Your current little spree of ad hominem
against half of this group is pretty amusing. If you don't like
ad hominem attacks, perhaps you shouldn't practice them yourself.
  All you look like now is a crybaby.
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From: gandalf@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Thomas M Farrell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Call the Office of the Governor in Orgon - No on 9
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:12:56 GMT
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University


> 508-378-3111

Very interesting. And when, may I ask, did the office of the governor of
Oregon move to Massachusetts?

			;)

			Tom