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From: lonkila@franz.Helsinki.FI (MARKKU LONKILA (SOSPO))
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Subject: Gunther Huber's address?
Date: 22 Nov 92 12:23:53 GMT
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Does anybody have the e-mail or snakemail address of German 
researcher Gunther Huber ('umlaut' with both u's if I am not mistaken) at 
hand? Gunther is the developer of a qualitative analysis software package 
called AQUAD.

Markku Lonkila
Researcher
University of Helsinki
internet: lonkila@cc.helsinki.fi
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From:         Gary Shank <P30GDS1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: the meaning of qualitative research

thank you for your thoughts, nora.  do you have a reference on
bhaskar--he sounds like just what i am looking for in one part
of my paper....please feel free to send me anything else you feel
could help, and once again, thanks very much   gary
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Subject:      Re: the meaning of qualitative research

response to gary shank:

My research orientation for a long time was quantitative - primarily in
the area of psychometrics. I discovered I had an "aptitude" for
statistics, which was highly valued in my professional environment.

My first inkling of the insufficiency of this view as at the end of a
test validation study in which I had identified an interesting cultural
pattern. In presentations of the research, the audience kept asking,
"Why did the students respond that way?"  I had no reply.

One person said, "Did you ask them?"

The statement changed my entire view on how to derive meaning from data.
Now, when I want to find out the reason for an observed phenomenon or
event, I ask!

rene parmar
state univ. of new york at buffalo
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From:         jean <SOCW9V@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: the meaning of qualitative research

thanks... will let you know.

jean

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From:         jean <SOCW9V@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: the meaning of qualitative research

oops!  just sent a personal message to the net.

sorrry,
jean

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From:         "Diana B. Putman" <diana@U-SHIZUOKA-KEN.AC.JP>
Subject: Re: daily life as a qual researcher

As I get ready to leave Japan in a few days after 18 months qualitative field
work, Josie's comments seemed so relevant.  Yes, you are often lonely,
yet also amazingly happy and pleased when you see how much people are willing
to open up and trust you.  I have been trying to write up profiles of
five women that I hope to turn into a book later and wanted their inputs
before my departure.  Their helpful responses has been very gratifying and
especially their assistance in making it sound like themselves. I did not
set out to change anyone per se, but each woman said that I helped her
reflect and think over her life and in some cases inspired her to make
changes.  Not sure whether that is good or bad, but certainly more honest
than old style anthropologists who claimed their presence had not impact.
Yes, it is hard to express how different your research is, especially to
natural scientists.  To the query "Did you finish your research?" I only
smile and say that research is never done.  Most of my notes are typed up
but some remain in the notebooks and that all too often happens since up to
the last hours I'm sure I'll still be writing things down.
Bon courage!  Remember that for all the exhaustion you will have wonderful
memories in addition to the data.
        Cheers, Diana Putman
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From:         nora l ishibashi <nli1@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the meaning of qualitative research

For Gary Shank: Roy Bhaskar has a number of books and articles. The book that
I have is called "Reclaiming Reality" and contains some of his articles. He
is in the process of publishing a new book, but I do not have any information
on it. "Reclaiming Reality" was in my campus bookstore. Bhaskar is British I
believe and so he publishes there. If you need more of the information for
the citation, let me know. I am here at work and don't have it at hand, but I
can send it from home if you need it.
Nora L. Ishibashi
nli1@midway.uchicago.edu
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Jane,

Would you please post your results to the list?

Thanks,

John Ford
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Subject:      Ideas
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This is a second try to send my message through the net.
I asked originally about the use of the term "belief" as explanatory because I
see it used so widely as a gloss for statements about the universe that involve

cognition or individual reflection in social psychology, anthropology and
communication. Certainly I would be more comforatable, as Nicholas suggests,
if we werew to discuss "individual stated perceptions." At least there we
would need to explain what those perceptions consisted of and how they
were obtained. With belief there is a tendency to read the term in a common
sense manner and thus to use it as a black box rather than to show the
assumptions upon which it is based and how evidence was obtained.

Don, I think I would be interested in discussing representationalism, sounds
like something I should know about, but I confess I don't know at all what
you are talking about.
Stan Yoder
Annenberg UPenn
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Gary, please keep the discussion on the BB--this is not just a
pe4so personal topic, but one of interest to our whole discourse
community.
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From:         Lyn.Harper@MTSG.UBC.CA
Subject:      Joining network
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I am a graduate student in Adult Education at the
University of B.C.  Dr. Ricki Goldman-Segall suggested
that I may want to join your network on Qualitative
Research... can you let me know something about it,
and add my e-mail address to the system?
Thank you in advance.  Lynette Harper, Vancouver, B.C.
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              92 7:28 pm

please cancel my subscription - thanks`
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From:         "Kevin J. Brehony" <emsbreny@READING.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: the meaning of qualitative research
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The Bhaskar trail is interesting to me because Professor Deem of Lancaster
University and myself took it when we presented a paper recently on
methodological aspects of our work on school governors. What we were
concerned to do was combat the relativism which pervades Hammersley's work
on ethnography and try to find some position from which to measure our
descriptions and explanations. Bhaskar's work suggests that reality may be
more knowable than Hammersley allows. In addition to the references
already cited the following discussions of Bhaskar and realism proved useful:
Ekstrom, M (1992) Causal explanation of social action - the contribution
of Weber, Max and of critical realism to a generative view of causal
explanation in social-science Acta Sociologica 35,2 pp. 107-122 and
Outhwaite, W. (1990) Realism, naturalism and social-behaviour 20,4 pp.
365-377. The journal 'Radical Philosophy' is useful as is an article by
Tsoukas, H. in Academy of Management Review 14,4 pp. 551-561. I know this
stuff is hardly 'ground-based' but behind every appearance lurks another
reality.
Kevin J. Brehony
Dept. of Education Studies and Management
University of Reading
UK
(that's Reading as in Otis)
From: cids05@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Dr Stephen K Tagg)
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Date: 23 Nov 92 09:48:33 GMT
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> _________________________________________________________________
I'm not a little attracted, being a lecturer in quantitative methods that
has stressed the importance of grounded theory, knowing the mind of the
actors, understanding your own role etc, to the idea that a qualitative
approach gives research a wider view of the world. What I am a little 
apprehensive about is the selective blindness to methodological issues shown
by some in the qualitative research area. Yes the meaning is crucial, but
surely it is infected by the process of research, minimally by analyzing
traces, maximally by asking people. It's a process of seeing if the researchers
view of the problem, (as concretized in the questionnaire, topic list or
whatever) makes sense to the researchee. Yes the researcher's view should have
been built up painstakingly from the researchee's situated actions (including
talk), but it's still the researcher's view! The actor doesn't want to take
the same view as the researcher.
-- 
Dr Stephen K Tagg                   Bsc in Psychology, PhD in Architecture
Lecturer, Department of Marketing   IT & Stats for Marketing, Consumer Research
Univ of Strathclyde, GLASGOW        Mental Maps, Multidimensional Scaling, CSCW
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From: 21602JMC@MSU.BITNET (Josie.Csete)
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Subject: daily life as a qual researcher
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:22:00 GMT
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I'd like to add my own two cents to the conversation about what it means to be
a qualitative researcher.  I am a graduate student doing my first qualitative
study for my dissertation.  Much of what has been written so far to this list
reminds me of the reasons why I chose a qualitative study.  I emphatically
believe in the need to understand a person and an event in context and the
need to colllaborate with the participants.

What I haven't been reading (but its something I've been wondering about) are
some of the specifics of day to day life as a qualitative researcher.
Remember this is my first effort in this direction, but am I the only one to
be both excited and exhausted by being constantly steeped in my study?  For
example, yesterday was supposed  to be an "off" day and I was going to write
   down my emerging theories in my reflectionjournal. Instead I received phone
calls from participants and wound up listening, and then adding to my field
journal.  I was stunned by how intensly personal a benign study was becoming
and wondering how much the qualities I had been culitvating as a qualitative
researcher of hanging out and listening more than  talking brought on this
surge of confidences.

I am also often frustrated.  By having to "hold things in" until I can get
them down on paper.  By feeling things "slipping through the net" because more
is happening than I can possibly record.  By wondering just how much of all of
this stuff I'm generating is actually going to turn up useful after all.  And,
the worst, worrying that what I come up with after all this work will only be
my own biased interpretation in spite of my efforts otherwise.

I am also lonely.  Through having to constantly, pleasantly, jokingly explain
what qualitative research is good for, that its not the opposite of
quantitative research.  Through contantly trying to curtail my desire to share
what I am experiencing and learning with others, sharing instead with the
notebook I carry or the computer wordprocessing program.

Perhaps the experience is different for those of you who have conducted a
number of studies, although I don't think you ever know exactly where you're
heading in qualitative studies, at least you've completed a journey or two.
And so I'm repeating a portion of Gary's question, I'd like to know from you,
what is your daily life as a qualitative researcher like?

Josie Csete
21602jmc@msu.bitnet
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Yes, yes, and yes.  The everyday experience of doing qualitative
research is indeed an all-consuming, often lonely, and mostly
uncertain journey.  For me, I think about it as "engaging the
mystery" where the point of the study is often lived as a deepening
of the mystery but gets reported as something more tangible--
words on a page that never really represent or even evoke the
experiences.
But I always love mysteries.
Josie, the idea of endings is imaginary, just as the idea of where
a study begins always involves a long ride into your personal
narratives and the voices of those that tell them.  James Dickey
used to say that "you never really finish a poem, you abandon it."
I think those words sum up doing qualitative work as well.
Dr. Bud
aka H.L. Goodall, Jr.
Clemson University
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Stephen, I believe that your concerns are valid for all of research
(both qual and quant).  For example, the reason I lessened by quant
focus, and began to embrace qual, is because of your very concern.  I felt
like the "subjects" were having to conform to my a priori assumptions
and limited choice instruments.  My instruments were value laden and bias
and then to compound the matter more, my "subjects" could not correct
me but rather just became missing values if they did not stay withing
the parameters of the predetermined answer options.  I may come into a
setting or interview with a lot of a priori assumptions, but at least
during the interview, the participant can correct me.  I found that when
I was handing out a lot of paper and pencil instruments that the
participants gave me a lot of feedback of resentment and would often
chastise me for being simplistic in my exploration at hand (I investigate
human right advocacy and we are a cantankerous (sp) bunch.  Todd.
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From:         Mikko M{ntysaari <spmima@UTA.FI>
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Roy Bhaskar has also published "A Realist Theory of Science"
(1978) -- it is about scientific realism -- and "The Possibility
of Naturalism. A Philosophical Critique of the Contemporary
Human Sciences" (1979). Both are published by Harvester Press.
I think especially "the Possibility of Naturalism" is
interesting.

Dr. Mikko Mantysaari
Department of Social Policy             tel. +31-156 312
University of Tampere                   e-mail spmima@kielo.uta.fi
Pl. 607
SF-33101 Tampere
FINLAND
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From:         jean <SOCW9V@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1992 17:26:00 EDT <WSCOTT@WOOSTER> said:
>Beliefs and expectations can influence performance changes without
>necessarily reflecting change in one's view of one's abilities.
>Here's an example. Some colleagues recently told me about a case
>of a pulmonary patient who complained that he could not walk the
>distance from his bed to the bathroom. He wanted the bed moved closer.
>They then did a series of tests to see how far the patient could
>reasonable walk and placed the bed at the farthest limit in a
>(collaborative) rehabilitative effort to build strength and endurance.
>Non-collaboratively, they had the bed moved back to its original
>position that night as the patient slept. The patient continued
>walking to the bathroom without problems even when the moved the
>bed even further away the next night.
>
>This is an elaboration of the "magic feather" technique, but the
>point is that our performance can improve if our beliefs change
>in regard to the world with little or no change in beliefs about the
>self and its efficacies.
>
>Bill Scott

Well, maybe.  Bill, another way of looking at this is that the pt.
received validation of his concerns from others which affected his sense
of "self" directly.  i  have observed people able to do all kinds of
things that they had thought were impossible or undesirable simply as
a result of feeling understood.

jean

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Josie,
  Reading over my response to Gary Shank's request, in the context of
others' replies, I was struck by the extent to which my answer
responded to the portion of his request that was about "what it means in
terms of day to day activities, to engage in qualitative research." Or,
perhaps more accurately, that is what I thought I was responding to. It
appears that most other folks fastened on his later statement about
"what it means, to you, to do qualitative research."
  Of course what I had to say about my daily life, as an established researcher
who is having a hard time fitting qualitative research into his current job,
was different from what you had to say about what you were dealing with in what
sounds like your first real field experience. For myself, I know that the
hassles I experience in my daily life often dominate how I feel about qual-
itative methods, and cause me to loose sight of all the loftier sentiments
that others have done such a good job of expressing. Of course I must still
subscribe to those beliefs, at some deep level, or I wouldn't persist in
doing something that really isn't valued very highly by those who define my
workload.
  I guess of all the statements I've seen, that one that came closest to my
own feelings was the idea that qualitative methods continually gives me the
chance to learn new things. I know that when I sit down to do an interview,
I feel both an excitment and a humbleness about all that I have to learn. I
find a certain irony that one  has to be good at learning to become a professor
but so many of colleagues now act as if there is nothing that they can learn
from anyone (or at least anyone who doesn't hold as high a position in the
profession as they do). As a qualitative researcher, my goal is perpetually
to learn more about things that others understand better than I do, and to
try and come away with a better understanding of the realities they face.
So, for me, that is where the meaning of the daily activity comes together
with what it means to me to do qualitative research.
==>David Morgan hjdm@PSUORVM
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regarding the notion of keeping the question of what does it
mean to do qualitative research open to all the line -- I agree,
and I have posted private messages publicly when the persons
have said that i could.
i am fascinated with the responses so far, and i hope that
the public discussion continues to thrive...gary shank
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Markku Lonkila notes the difficulties in the qualitative vs. quantitative disti
nction, and another recent note described the 10% or less funding for qualitati
ve research and the short-handed teaching of it.

 Whenever this debate of qualitative vs. quantitative comes up, try this.

 The opposite of qualitative is not quantitative but PARTICULARISTIC.  That is,
 the study of a part of piece of some phenomenon, rather than its central quali
tities.

  The opposite of quantitative measurement is NOMINAL measurement.

  There is no opposition between the two descriptors of research methods.  Qual
itative studies can use nominal or ordinal measurement or whatever is needed.
Quantitative levels of measurement can be done in the context of efforts to und
erstand the whole of a situation, or studies done in the natural environment.

 I have found that breaking the "prior schema" sometimes assists in this endles
s and not very useful debate between qualitative and quantitative work.

Tom Weisner, UCLA, iar8tsw@uclamvs.bitnet
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