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From: pbreo@infochi.com (Pat Breo)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waflinemail v2 Beta
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 10:58:48 CST
Organization: Infochi System of Chicago

I recently saw a post for Waflinemail v2.0 beta. Someone said they were 
using it with some success. Can anyone tell me where I can get a copy by 
either ftp or LD or whatever. An e-mail reply would be appreciated.

thanks to all

pat

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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: 29 Dec 92 07:05:39 GMT
Organization: Berry Communications

pete@wvus.org (Pete Gregory) writes:

> In article <FDyDwB1w165w@fennec.com> dfox@fennec.com writes:
> >I have seen several messages about offline or alternitive mail/news
> >readers for Waffle. But let it be known that there is one called
> >Hell-Diver. This is a Windows 3.1 reader ONLY for Waffle.
> 
> i'm interested, but don't have anonFTP access.  could someone mail
> it to me?

You can ask the halcyon fileserver to mail it to you.  Just send a
message to fileserv@halcyon.com with the following text starting in
column one:

          send waffle/news/helld107.zip
          end

The line with the word "end" tells the software that anything following
(like a .signature file) can be ignored.  Including the "end" line is a
Really Good Thing to do.

> do i have to have w1.65 to run it?  i'm a w1.64 user now, and will
> be upgrading shortly (maybe new years' weekend).

No, 1.65 is not required.  I've seen articles here from people who say
they're using Helldiver with 1.63.

-- 
Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   |  "Somebody has to be the grownups,
pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    |  and now it's our turn."
**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        |  -- Dave Barry
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:5554 comp.mail.uucp:2427
From: djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 20:04:10 +1100
Reply-To: David.Keegel@apana.org.au
Organization: Private site, Melbourne, Australia.

In <BzMIIu.Lnp@cs.psu.edu> fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
>In article <KGmNrAOCBh107h@boombox.apana.org.au> David.Keegel@apana.org.au writes:
>|The problem with smarthost: hishost!bighost is that mail for myneighbor
>|(ie: myhost!hishost!myneighbor!user) goes up to bighost.

>Only if you don't have your PATHS file set up properly.

I thought the main point of having a smarthost was to reduce or eliminate
the PATHS file.  Personally, I don't want to update a file every time
my feed adds another site, I just want to send everything to my feed.
If they don't recognise it, they do the same (as long as there is a
"tree" structure, and each node knows all the sites "below" it).

Being a leaf node, I don't ever intend to have anything in my PATHS file.

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<David.Keegel@apana.org.au>  <werple!tuple!boombox!djk>  Tel: +61 3 593-1460
aka: djk@boombox.apana.org.au, djk@cs.mu.oz.au.  Formerly: djk@bby.com.au.
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WWIVedit problems solved
Date: 27 Dec 92 02:05:58 GMT
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us (David William Wrage) writes:

> Thanks to all those wonderful people (both of them) who helped me out with th
> WWIVedit setup.  Although your solutions worked, I ended working out a third
> solution which allows me to use the 'local' setup when a user is locally logg
> in, and a 'remote' setup when.....shall we say...  remotely logged in.
> 
> If anybody would like a copy of my solution, feel free to E-Mail me directly.
> I will be more than glad to send you a copy of my solution to the problem and
> it works very well...

Would you mind posting the files.  I'm sure many sysops would
like to add another editor to their Waffles.  If not, I'd
appreciate an email follow-up...Mike

--
     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:5667 comp.bbs.misc:1659 alt.bbs:7777 news.software.readers:2586
From: skriefal@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (Scott Kriefall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Offline readers
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:08:29 GMT
Organization: St. Cloud State Univ., MN

> I've used "atp" under UNIX, which keeps a running database... the
source
> claims that it should work fine under DOS.
 
There is an MSDOS version of ATP floating around under the filename 
ATPDOS06.ZIP.  I downloaded it from the Lunatic Fringe of Plano, 
Texas.  Phone # is 1-214-422-2936 (v.32bis) if you're interested; they 
allow downloads on first calls.  They bill themselves as 'QWK Central' 
- if there is a .QWK-related file, chances are that they'll have it 
available for d/l within days of its release.
.
From: doug@aptzero.lonestar.org (Doug Gault)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: HELLDIVER... I found it... Plus a few suggestions
Date: 31 Dec 92 06:21:16 GMT
Organization: Doug Gault .. Home UseNet Node.

Well.. I finally found out what I was doing wrong in trying to retrieve HELLDIVER.
(Not including the entire path name... Silly boy!)

And, once installed I found it both usefull and quite anoying!

Obviously thas is an invaluable tool.. I will be using it almost exclusively from 
now on.... BUT (there is always a big "but" in there somewhere)... 

Here are my suggestions for improvement.  

1) Make the sort by subject optional.. I would like to be able to read news as it
   comes in, as well as have the option of reading it by subject.

2) If there is new mail, and you read it, but there is no news (or no change to 
   a newsrc/join file, HELLDIVER does not seem to be changing the status of that
   particular MAIL item as read.. Maybe that is not a function of HELLDIVER as it
   stands.. But I would like to be able to distinguish between new mail and mail
   I have read without having to delete it. (like Waffle does). If this is possible, 
   someone please correct me and tell me what I am missing.

3) The FLASH of Hsend as it queues a message is rather bothersome.. Is there a way
   to take care of that.. (??? anyone found a way ???)

Other than that, it seems to be a full and robust program..  Congrats... You have done
a great job!


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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Help.
Keywords: Help
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:19:45 GMT
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

pauln@spectrx.saigon.com (Paul Nguyen) writes:

-> I have a problem with waffle. I can not post in the news groups 
-> I carry. When I try to post. It says access denied /news/monitor/1.
-> Can someone help. I'm posting here at this address because I can not
-> post at my site. Please reply to pauln@wattres.sj.ca.us.


Make sure you have the following entry in either your ~/system/local
or ~/system/usenet files:

monitor /spy /post=0


 eoin@xocolatl.com  |      Practice Random Kindness   /~~~~~~~~~~~~~\  /
 GEnie: J.Snyder18  |  *             and             <  D A R W I N  >< 
 CI$:   70313,3111  | \|/  Senseless Acts of Beauty   \_____________/  \
 Prodigy:  NOT!!!!  |           PGP 2.0 User            _l _l _l _l
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,news.software.readers
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Offline readers
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:47:33 GMT

From article <1992Dec29.095354.13628@catfish.az05.bull.com>, by pls@cibecue.az05.bull.com (Paul Schauble):
> I'm looking for a database oriented offline message reader. By this I mean one
> that doesn't work on a packet by packet basis, but which copies the packets int
> into a running database.
> 
> What's available that I should look at?

	Grr...wish I paid more attention to them!  I use Offline because
it's dirt cheap and dirt simple to use.

	There *IS* an OLR that does what you've described, I just
don't remember the name.  Blue Wave or SpeedRead come to mind, but I
honestly don't remember the name...

 TTYL
 Chris
From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: HELLDIVER running with Win-OS2
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:15:01 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au
X-Newsreader: Helldiver Packet Viewer 1.00

In <V6mqwB2w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:

>First of all, let me apologize for frothing at the mouth the way I did.

:-)  That's ok.  Thank God 1992 is over.  1993 can only be better ... :-)

>That sounds marvelous to me, and more than I could have asked for.
>Currently, I have a batch file that calls uucico and then uuxqt.  I run
>it when I'm ready to dial up my smarthost, send my outgoing traffic, and
>receive any incoming stuff that might be waiting.  I could just add a
>line to the beginning to run the flush-into-Waffle program, right?

That's right.  I already have most of Helldiver Send ported to Windows now -
I just need to do the bits to put messages into the temporary directory and
write the flushing program.  Really easy really: just replace the call to
"spawnvp" with code to write the data to the temporary directory and recompile
with Borland C++'s EasyWin.

>> A native OS/2 version is a long-range possibility, but until I get more
>> disk space, more memory, and a compiler, it will remain vapourware.  A
>> Windows NT version is more likely in any event, because that is my currently
>> planned upgrade path.

>But you'll need at least as much disk space and memory for NT, won't
>you?  More, from what I've heard.  Either way, you still have to buy it.

Yes, but since I've got all the tools for Windows, I've decided to stay on
that stream for a little while longer.  I have nothing against OS/2 (except
IBM's feeble attempt to gain a monopoly again :-) - just a decision based on
the large amount of time and money I have invested in Windows and that Windows
apps can (more or less in Helldiver's case :-) be run under OS/2.

>This brings up a related question, one that will probably get me nicely
>flamed by Helldiver users everywhere.  But I'll ask it anyway.  Why are
>you giving Helldiver away for free?  A program this slick and
>sophisticated is well worth a modest registration fee -- and it wouldn't

I am thinking about it for a future version of Helldiver, but until it is
stable and the bug and wish lists reduce I don't feel right about it (heck - a
shareware author with morals - what is the world coming too? :-) .

Cheers,

Rhys.
--
Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"
From: afavela@eis.calstate.edu (Alonso Favela)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: WafflineMail with Waffle 1.65..does it work?
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:39:20 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services


	Does wafflinemail 1.0 work with waffle 1.65. In the docs it said
that it worked with 1.64, and since there are different mailbox
structures, I wanted to ask before I might mess things up. Does anyone
have WaffLineMail working with 1.65?  

Thanks,
Alonso Favela
afavela@eis.calstate.edu
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The woes of ^Z
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 06:30:32 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill) writes:

> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> >Waffle hasn't got a bug.  MS-DOS has a bozon filesystem.
> 
> Doesn't have anything to do with the filesystem.  The DEFAULT mode to read
> a file is "TEXT" mode, in which case a ^Z is treated as EOF.

That sure sounds like filesystem behavior to me.

> >Hey, Unix types... what happens if a DOS site embeds a ^D in mail or
> >news?
> 
> ^D is only treated as the EOF character when it's typed in from the keyboard.

Yep, and that's logical behavior.  The MS-DOS ^Z bogosity is a hangover
from CP/M, and I don't see what's so great about it.  The filesystem
shouldn't discriminate against any particular character.

> As a matter of fact you can change which character is treated as EOF by
> issuing a 'stty' command. "stty eof ^Z" will make UNIX act more like DOS.

Kind of like a lobotomy? :-)
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
   "I like Santa Claus as well as the next guy, but do you really want a
   hard drive that's spent 6000 miles at the bottom of a canvas sack in a
            wooden sleigh powered by airborne reindeer?" -- me
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Chrome
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:37:41 GMT

dfox@fennec.com (Scott Davis) writes:

>pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:

>> Does anyone know if Chrome is still in development?  Or has it been
>> abandoned?  I haven't heard any news about it in over a year.

>I've tried looking for Chrome...Can't seem to find it. Maybe it's the
>best instance of VAP0RWARE...

Nope.  It exists, albeit on Tom's development machine.  I saw the
skeleton of it some time back, and was suitably impressed.  Maybe
I'll have to fly down to Sunnyvale to see what's new with it.  Yeah,
that's the ticket!

>vap0r-ware (adj.) A piece of software that everyone talks about but
>                  never happens. 

In this case, the definition does not apply.

-- 
     halcyon.com, Public Access Internet, Seattle, WA, +1 206 382 6245
                 "A World of Information at your Fingertips"
                 P.O. Box 555, Grapeview, WA 98546-0555, USA
                    ralphs@halcyon.com,  +1 206 955 1050
From: dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us (David William Wrage)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Getting Destination & Title from Waffle
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:36:31 GMT
Organization: * DDT Archives BBS *


I've gotten a lot of help from fellow WWIV sysops & others about how to get
this information from WWIV 4.2x & above, but that I already was familiar with.
I was rather hoping to find a similar solution but with Waffle not WWIV.  Is
there any way to extract this information from memory or from the multitudes of
files in the waffle directories?  If I have to go hunting in some meroy
address, then so be it, but I really need to be able to find out where a
message is going or being posted and what it's title is.  

to dell@cojones.com: please consider adding these in your next version.  Just a
request from someone who will register the program Waffle, but only once I get
my bugs out of it.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 David William Wrage              Usenet....dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us
 SysOp of DDT Archives BBS
 614/594-6588 at 2400 Baud        WWIVlink....1@16471     WWIVnet.....1@6471
From: dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us (David William Wrage)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Offline Mail Reader wanted
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:12:35 GMT
Organization: * DDT Archives BBS *


Yep, it's the 'oh no, not him again' guy.  To all Waffle Sysops:  I've harassed
Adam Caldwell (the author of WWIVedit) and he has told me that since I am in
the nearby neighbor to his system, he will work with me on getting WWIVedit to
work with Waffle on a better basis.

Okay, now to today's question:

I am looking for an off-line mail reader that is in the .qwk format.  Does such
a beast exist?  Does such a beast work with Waffle 1.65 & WWIV4.21a & PCBoard?

Actually I have 2 questions: 

I am also looking for a off-line mail reader program for Waffle (so that waffle
can transfer it's messages to the users) that handles the .qwk format and is
compatible with waffle 1.65

thank you for your help ahead of time.

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 David William Wrage              Usenet....dwrage@ddt-archives.athens.oh.us
 SysOp of DDT Archives BBS
 614/594-6588 at 2400 Baud        WWIVlink....1@16471     WWIVnet.....1@6471
From: djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:25:07 +1100
Reply-To: David.Keegel@apana.org.au
Organization: Private site, Melbourne, Australia.

In <C0199E.5Kx@puma.uucp> puma.uucp!john@becca.rain.com (John Meissen) writes:
>In article <BzzD0F.2wM@chinet.chi.il.us> les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
>>Uucp mail doesn't have any concept of "feeds".  There are only neighbors.
>>Perhaps you are thinking of news.

>You are picking nits here.

>My news and mail come over the same transport. My "neighbor" uses UUCP to
>"feed" data to me via modem. I could care less if it's news or mail.

>Actually, I have many neighbors. Only one is a connection to the outside
>world. That is my feed site.

Thanks.  Yes, if my node has a unique neighbor (whether it be UUCP or
something else like ACSnet) through which traffic to/from The Internet
goes, I call that a "feed".  If my node has more than one path to The
Internet, things become more complicated.

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<David.Keegel@apana.org.au>  <werple!tuple!boombox!djk>  Tel: +61 3 593-1460
aka: djk@boombox.apana.org.au, djk@cs.mu.oz.au.  Formerly: djk@bby.com.au.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Subject: Re: Reason a new .UUCP address bounces mail??
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:59:51 GMT

rccarm00@nx19.mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:

>      I recently established a new mail/news feed, and have managed to
>get mail running in both directions, but when I try to send mail to
>darmok.UUCP (that's my site) from Internet, the mail always bounces.
>Error responses say "unable to find remote address", or words to that
>effect.  
>      I spoke to the person in charge of mail for our site, and his
>response was to ask about the configuration of mail at my end.  I don't
>think the problem could possibly be at my end; I've been over the static
>file a dozen times, and it seems to be set up just fine.
>      Any help will be greatly appreciated.

the problem *is* on your end, but your mail person isn't helping you
too much in this case.

the problem is that you're telling people you're in the .UUCP domain,
which does NOT (!!!!) exist.  I'd strongly recommend getting yourself
'domainized', perhaps in the .us domain (which has worked well for me
at home).

If you really want to be a uucp-only site, you'll need to get into the
UUCP maps, which requires action on your part and usually has a considerable
time delay before the maps propagate worldwide.

Also, you want your headers (set in static) to be a known good address
from a known site...(maybe something like yoursite!you@some.internet.site
if the internet site can parse yoursite!you and get mail to you).

see the Waffle FAQ, and the news.answers FAQ 'how to become a usenet site'
for more details...

-- 
   ---------   Vince Skahan   ----- vds7789@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com ------- 
  Hypocrisoda - the diet soda you drink so you can have an extra piece of 
                 fudge without fear of gaining weight.
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Another Waffle bug?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:30:17 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> Maybe it's a side-effect of the user directories being on a drive other
> than that on which the Waffle directories reside...  I dunno, I'm too
> lazy to look at my sources... maybe later.  From my /waffle/system/static:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> #  directories
> user         : d:/user
> waffle       : c:/waffle
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> So, when I execute a HOME command, I'm placed in d:/user/dawson.  When I
> execute a "dir d:/user" command, I'm still in my home directory.  When I
> execute a "dir c:/waffle" command, I'm left in c:/waffle.

Mine looks just like this it the command sequence leaves me in my
home directory. To toss another idea out...

disks        : c: c:/pub d: d:/user



--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: 28 Dec 92 02:03:14 GMT
Reply-To: larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US
Organization: The Birdsong Company, PO Box 2031, Sunnyvale CA 94087-2031

In <S0XPrAiHBh107h@mala.proteus.qc.ca> ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) writes:
>In <FDyDwB1w165w@fennec.com> dfox@fennec.com (Scott Davis) writes:
>> ... Positive comments about HellDiver <deleted> ...

>Yes, Hell diver is VERY good, but it is NOT an offline reader system.  
>It does NOT allow the system's users to download all new messages and mail, 
>read them offline, compose replies offline, and then upload them the next
>time they call. ...

I think you call that "Waffle". Waffle does all these things, and quite well!
Maybe I miss the point of what you had in mind for an "offline mail and news 
reader". If it is not Waffle itself, then what is it?

Yes, I use HellDiver and I am quite please with it.

Regards,
  larry.

-- 
--
Larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Helldiver problems...
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:39:43 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

Ok, maybe those of you who already have helldiver working can lend me a hand.
I've got helldiver set up, but when I run it, I have three problems:

1.  The subjects for all articles in a news group say 'out of memory'

2.  I'm getting the 'can't create a temp file' error when trying to post a new
article.

3.  The subscription listing only includes alt groups.



I'm trying to run helldiver via Invisible net (a peer-to-peer network).  My
Waffle system runs on a 386 which is set up as an invisible net server.  My 486
is set up as a workstation machine.  I'm using Waffle right now under Windows
on the 486, so I know that all of my static params are configured ok for
Waffle.

My 486 has 4 meg of memory.  I'm running Windows with a 7 meg permanant swap
file, and yes, I do have the TEMP environment variable set.

Any suggestions?  Email please.  The signal-to-noise ratio is getting pretty
bad here lately.  TIA.




|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
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