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From: am5@cec2.wustl.edu (Avik  Mukherjee)
Subject: Response to Mr. Lucas
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:23:34 GMT

I agree. Malmsteen doesn't really have too much in the way of writing solos. Of
course his technique is awesome, but I'm getting really sick of him. I have two
of his tapes, "Collection" and "Trilogy" and the only solo that has a nice
melody and not too many overly-fast repetitious riffs is "Far Beyond the Sun."
That's why I 'm inquiring to see if there are other better albums from better
guitar specialists.
From: bsrrg@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Kick Axe
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:28:03 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Hi,

some years ago, a band named "KICK AXE" made an album 
"Welcome To The Club". I haven't heard anything of this band
ever since.

Who knows something?

Thanks,
		Richard
From: TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden info?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:17:41 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Paul Di'anno left the band because of his alcohol problem...ie he
was too drunk to stand on stage half the time, let alone sing.  Thus
he departed from the band to straighten up his life.

Bruce can hit the high notes in his earlier albums.  However singing
live night after night can tend to steal this from a person, and
he prolly wasn't 100% when singing for LAD.  I felt he did a great
job with Remember tomorrow and those high pitched screams he had.

Back to the village seems to be about alot of there earlier songs
all collaged into one.  With references to Aces High, No# of the
Beast, The prisioner, Killers, Children of the Damned and even
2 minutes to midnight.  But then again others might percive it
differently.

I never thought of Killers being a concept album, I'd have to listen
to it again.  Though back in the early days they did seem to have
this fear of being blamed for something they were not...foreshadowing
of the no# of the beast?  Somewhere in Time seemed to be a concept
album...and many albums did seem to have similar trends in them.
It might just be the way they write.

I've always thought of weekend warrior as being a song about people
in the military reserves.

Anyways Nicko McBain can never replace Clive Burr on the drums!!!!!


--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
Suaron
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jsw2y@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jeff White)
Subject: Re: NEW GNR VIDEO....GREAT!!!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:29:39 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:57:33 -0500 
From: Thomas James Waltz <tw26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: re: How to spell Yngwie

>Here's how to spell that certain guitar player's name:
>
>O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D.
> 
>And, if you want the original Hebrew:
> 
>B-O-R-I-N-G.
> 
>Malmsteen sucks. There is no feel in his playing--it seems like the whole
>purpose of his songs is to find out how many notes he can play in a
certain time
>period.
>
>'nuff griping for now.
 
Let's see you do better, faggot. But then again if you could, you'd be
doing it, not him. I suppose you think Vai relies on his effects too
much, too.

                A Suaron fan,
                   Tom

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: (no subject given)
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:16:12 GMT

<TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|Fear of the Dark was a pathetic attempt to return to Maiden's past...with
|lyrics that sounded like they were to stupid to be made into earlier songs
|that were thrown together for this album.

I refuse to concede that you are an authority on lyrics, since you don't
know when to use the proper adverb meaning "excessively."

|Also Iron Maiden can suck my dick for dropping Riggs as there artist.

Riggs was not dropped, as you obviously don't know. The new guy is just an
addition. By the way, I don't think you should use the pronoun-adjective
homonym of the personal pronoun, since it is awkward and downright stupid
to use the former in your context.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:16:54 EST
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: whats metal (Re: Here's one for Suaron)
 <93019.183303TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <107704@bu.edu>
 <1993Jan21.111006.25678@nntp.hut.fi>

In article <1993Jan21.111006.25678@nntp.hut.fi>, m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti
Varis) says:
>
>In article <107704@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>>In article <93019.183303TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>>Who's not a poser on my list...well here goes a small list of all
>>>non-poser bands.

><...>


>>How abt DarkThrone, Tiamat, therion, Black Sabbath, Possessed, Venom,
>Entombed
>>Reverend.... Jesus above was just fucking mainstream..


>This is getting ridiculous. Seems like you are arguing who's
>_the_true_metalhead_ or something...
>"-you're just fuckin whimps, I'm the only true metl fan in this newsgroup...
> -you call _that_ metal, fuckin mainstream. i'll tell you what's METAL..."

>Jesus it's only rock'n'roll...

No, its not rock'n'roll!!!!!   It METAL!!!!  And we don't use Jesus in
this fucking newsgroup!   Its Satan, Lucifer, or Glenn!!!!!  You fuckin'
poser!

>Yeah, I know the times are bad
>When it's hard to run, nowhere to hide
>All I got left is a bread and a bottle of wine
>And I'm feeling fine...(Masters Of Reality/Gettin' High)

--so what, so what you boring little cunt
Suaron
From: cblanc@pomoma.claremont.edu (P0ZER N PR0UD!!1!)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: "Sweet Leaf"
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:28:30 GMT
Reply-To: cblanc@pomoma.claremont.edu
Organization: Pomona College

In article <1993Jan26.164523.21534@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>I heard there was to be a cover compilation to be released which concerned
>the legalisation of pot, and one of the songs was to be "Sweet Leaf." But
>I was under the impression the song was about tea, and it was coincidence
>Ozzy happened to be coughing from too much pot right at the beginning but
>for some reason they kept it. Anyone care to explain this? I really have no
>clue about this except what I hear as rumors.

	this is a joke, right?  'you introduced me ... to my life' etc. doesn't
sound to be about tea at all, unless by 'tea' you mean phencyclidine, which may
not have been available then...first, if ozzy was coughing from too much pot,
how come they echo-effect enhanced the sound?  second, the lyrics...these
aren't about dope?  third, a band that breaks all conformity singing about one
of the most british things there is, tea?
	sabs maintains a nice balance on drugs.  there's stuff like "sweet
leaf" which is pro-drug-experience, and then there's stuff like "fairies wear
boots" which is more "hey-don't-fuck-up-on-drugs."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:26:11 GMT

dsembr01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Darren S. Embry) writes:

>Heavy metal, in itself, can be considered a form of classical music, since
>IT WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!  I believe Danzig will be around for a while.

Classical music is not the same as classic music. Classical music
is music from a certain time period. Some people lump romantic,
baroque and a number of other styles and call them classical. The
Beatles are by your definition classical. I don't think so. Danzig
is a legend though.

Jed

Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:32:10 -0500 
From: Kuei-Che Cheng <kc3c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ***HELP!!!***

I am new to this group and I am very excited!!!
I need help in getting lyrics from a group that I truly admire, I thinks
they are one of the best HEAVY METAL group of all times. They are as
good as Black Sabbath. Bon Jovi and their recent album "Keep the Faith"
is a true classic.  I need the lyrics of "keep the faith".  
By the way does anyone know their tour dates?


Christopher C.

John Bon Jovi RULES!!!!!
 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:51:40 -0500 
From: W Darren Prouty <wp11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Japan Releases...
Distribution: world

>this.  Why is it that so many bands releases what I would term "special
>releases" in Japan only.  I know that some Iron Maiden stuff was different,

Personal theory: If you're gonna ship it all that way, make it worth the
buck. But who really knows...

I've seen lots of imports (both from Japan and Europe) of Maiden and
other bands, and as far as I'm concerned, they're not just "special",
they're collector's items. I saw a 2-disc live Maiden CD this XMAS for
$50 - both discs were picture discs and it had songs recorded (I think)
from their new tour. Wish I bought it. I also picked up 2 live Black
Crowes discs, and noticed the entire 10 disc Maiden set (Japanese
release) for $200. Wish I had the cash, I would have bought out the
store.


***********************************
 W.D.Prouty    wp11@andrew.cmu.edu
***********************************
  "I don't think they'll win the
   SuperBowl. I hope they don't. 
   I hate them"

      -Bryan Cox - Miami Dolphins
***********************************
From: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:06:21 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <C18C9H.26@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>In article <105188@netnews.upenn.edu> ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan15.045558.4689@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>>>Hi. Can someone please tell me the name of an FTP site where I can get the
>>>lyrics of "Melissa" by Mercyful Fate? Or if someone has them, please mail
>>>'em to me.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>Erik The Viking
>>
>>I second this!  I'd really like to see the lyrics to _Melissa_.  I sincerely
>>hope, however, that they are better than the lyrics to _Don't Break The Oath_,
>>which are weak at some points.  ("The Oath" itself, however, has awesome 
>>lyrics.)  I know that cs.uwp.edu doesn't have them, and I don't know where 
>>else to look.
>
>	Are the lyrics not included with the cassette?  I have the vinyl and 
>the inner sleeve has the lyrics printed on it.  Unfortunately, I don't have the
>patience to type them in.
>
>Can you hear me?
>						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
>                                                     __   __            
>                                                    /  `-' /          ,,
>                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
>                                                    \__.-._\          ``

Well, I copied the album from someone else's cassette and it didn't have any
lyrics in it. Maybe you could scan them? Anyways, I may buy the CD, if it's
not too expensive.

Erik The Viking 

-- 
Greetings, my children               And if you have the courage to cross 
Come with me now                     The rainbow bridge
And discover the magic               You may find
That lies beyond the sealed dreams   The Sacred Heart   -R.J.Dio 1985
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: bhf35669@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brody H. Finney)
Subject: Re: Earache Sabbath Tribute
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:11:57 GMT

tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:

>In <C17tKH.HDL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bhf35669@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brody H. Finney) writes:

>>Just a question...Earache just released a Black Sabbath tribute disc featuring
>>10 bands (Catherdal, OLD, Cadaver, Godflesh, Pitch Shifter, Scorn, Sleep, 
>>Confessor,and a couple of others) doing 11 Sabbath covers (Cathedral has two).
>>I was wondering if this has been released in Europe, as the one I bought was
>>a Japanese import, and more expevsive than what European imports usually are.
>>I was just wondering if the money grubbing record store leeches had screwed me
>>needlessly again.

>I don't (yet) know if this has been released here in Europe, but since
>you have it already, could you please tell us the track listing.. I.e.
>if there are any Dio Sabbath covers, I'd like to hear them...

No Dio...10 Ozzy and 1 Gillan.  The other two bands were Brutal Truth and Fudge
Tunnel.  Here's what's on it, as best I remember.  It I screw it up, I'll post
corrections tomorrow.  I'm pretty sure the order will be wrong.

Cathedral-"Shock Wave" and "Solitude" Opens and closes disc respectively
Godflesh-"Zero the Hero"
Scorn-"The Wizard"
OLD-"Who Are You?"
Cadaver-"Sweet Leaf"
Brutal Truth-"Lord of this World"
Pitch Shifter-"N.I.B."
Sleep-"Snowblind"
Confessor-"Hole in the Sky"
Fudge Tunnel-"Changes"

Hope this helps

Brody

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden info?
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:43:13 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <93026.091741TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Anyways Nicko McBain can never replace Clive Burr on the drums!!!!!
>
>
>--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
>Suaron
[stuff deleted]

Well, I also prefer Clive Burr but Nicko's doing a good job even though I
don't like his style too much.
Anyone knows why Burr left the band?

Erik The Viking





-- 
Greetings, my children               And if you have the courage to cross 
Come with me now                     The rainbow bridge
And discover the magic               You may find
That lies beyond the sealed dreams   The Sacred Heart   -R.J.Dio 1985
From: tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: NEW GNR VIDEO....GREAT!!!
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:13:43 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

>>So much for all the epic type bullshit...Lost in the Garden of Eden...
>>now that's a kick ass hilarious (sp) video...check it out....
>
>       Funny (and perhaps stupid) is the only good thing one can say
>about the newest video from everyone's favorite faggots, Puds and Posers.
>                                    Tom

	that video is so awesome -- it is definitely a break-thru video!
	i'm not a huge guns fan but when i saw that video, i was thinking,
	'gee, this is different, this is rock 'n' roll!' -- definitely wild.
	cool video no matter what.
	^^^^^^^^^^			-tt300zx@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: P. Fluid
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:48:14 GMT

Anyone know what he's doing? I saw an ad here in Morningside about P. Fluid
doing a show with three or four other local bands but by the time I saw the
ad the show was already past. What kind of stuff would his new band be doing?
It seems to me for some reason but I don't know why that he's doing what HR
is doing since HR left Bad Brains.

Speaking of Bad Brains, I heard ex-Faith No More singer Chuck Mosley sang for
them for some time but left (allegedly "he wasn't HR" which I know is true,
but I also think it has something to do with his vocal ability, or lack 
thereof. Still, his albums with Faith No More are I think the best two things
FNM ever did and will ever have. I don't like Patton except in Mr. Bungle.)
So, where would Chuck Mosley be?

wei hao

Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cblanc@pomoma.claremont.edu (P0ZER N PR0UD!!1!)
Subject: Re: Here's one for Suaron
Reply-To: cblanc@pomoma.claremont.edu
Organization: Pomona College
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:33:46 GMT

>Anyway, how about a thread on Dark Throne? Who's heard of them here? I know
>Leonid and I have (or else I wouldn't be bringing them up, would I?). Who
>else? What do you think? My favorite black metal band, though I've only heard
>three others (Venom, Sodom, and Deicide. I think Deicide's awful, Sodom is OK
>but I can't think of any reason to get any of their albums now that I have
>MORTAL WAY OF LIVE, and Venom is one of my favorite bands) and am amassing
>collective alt.rnr.metal.* opinions on which Bathory to get. But Dark Throne
>reigns highest on my black metal collection and one of my more favorite metal
>albums in general. 


	do you like celtic frost?  sort of similar sound.  i think these guys
(dt) are pretty damn hip, but thought their first album was far better than the
second.  do they still exist, even?


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:13:48 GMT

its amazing how many morons out there dont recognize sarcasm


-- 
   Alexander Feygin           "Tell me something I don't know"
  a-feygin@uiuc.edu                      --Ministry

The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: cgiannac@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Christos Giannacopoulo)
Subject: CYNIC Information Request
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Help find Cynic Demo@!
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:15:12 GMT


Does anyone know how I can a copy of any of Cynic's demos?
All I know is that they're a death metal band from the Florida area who 
are supposed to be very good and who have appeared on Death's Human CD.
I'm willing to buy it or trade any local (boston) demos that I have.

Speaking of Boston, anybody have any of the Bad Karma demos? I would
fucking kill for a copy...


Thanks to all for any help.................................<:^)
From: hibner@slate.cps.msu.edu (Richard L Hibner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Ozzy, Motorhead, & Slash
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:08:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: slate.cps.msu.edu

In article <1jpd1fINNdae@lynx.unm.edu> pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com (Pat  
Daugherty) writes:
> I just heard a song on the radio that has Ozzy, the Motorhead singer
> Lenny?, and Slash.  Whats the deal on this song?
> 
>  
> --
> *	pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com                     *
> *	PAT DAUGHERTY   REDSKINS, wait till next year      *
> *	"Hey Man I Am Cool, I Am The Breeze"               *

I believe you're talking about the duet ballad (!) of Ozzy and Lemmy.   
It's included on Motorhead's latest album.  As for the Slash part, I  
didn't realize he was on that track.  Ozzy and Lemmy seem to have become  
buddys recently.  In addition to the duet, Ozzy used a song written by  
Lemmy on the "No More Tears" album (Hellraiser).  You can find that song  
on the Motorhead album as well.  They also do a cover of Terrible Ted's  
"Cat Scratch Fever" in true Motorhead style.

BTW, what do you alt.rock-n-roll.metal'ers think about the new Motorhead  
album ("March or Die", right?).  I've heard bits and pieces, and it sounds  
pretty cool...

                  Rich Hibner
--------
hibner@atlantic.cps.msu.edu
"Feeling happy in my pain,
I see tools within my brain."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: satkins@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Shannon Atkins)
Subject: Re: Def of Poser (was Re: Here's one for Suaron)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:59:58 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA


Actually, a FAQ ( presumably a great percentage of which would go towards
answering what criteria are used on this group to distinguish poser bands
from bands worth serious discussion ) would be difficult to reach a 
consensus on.  Most of the stuff discussed here is either opinion
oriented or subject to change with time.  Maybe a FAQ that recommended
the avoidance of discussing certain bands which have been proven to draw
large flame wars would be useful, but this leaves few bands open for 
discussion.  The poser threads make up a large portion of this group and
are quite unnecessary, and my annoyance with these uninformative and
repetitive posts was one reason for posting that POSER definition a
while back. Attacking a band that someone posts about amounts to
electronic bullying.  Since people are often defensive wrt the bands
they post about, they usually reply, and then everyone else jumps in.
Most of these threads could have the names of the bands involved 
changed and be identical to discussions that took place a week or a
month ago.  It has all been said before.

The best way to stop this kind of stuff has been mentioned over and over
and over. If someone posts about a band you don't feel should be discussed
on .metal, ignore the post. If the user wants to discuss this band, and
would find a better response in .hard or .rock-n-roll, they will take
the subject there whether they are greeted with silence or a dozen
flames and counterflames here. If someone posts something deliberately
inflammatory, e-mail them if you must, but responsible users who want
to discuss music they LIKE won't post about bands they don't like.
If someone persists in posting information inappropriate for this 
group, e-mail them and request that they stop. 

I know that all of these methods are too polite to be much fun, and
everyone ought to be able to flame every once in a while, but if any
of you really want to cut down on the crap in this group, it's easy
to accomplish.  Don't feel like you need to get your two cents in
on every flame war ( you know who you are - particularly on threads
discussing the opinions and nature of a certain individual... );
a lot of times it is the same bunch in every block of flames.

oh well, I know this is a long post but I don't post here often, and
I know it won't change one damned thing, but WHO CARES ANYWAY?

-Shannon Atkins- BTW, in the interest of no longer referring to me in a
compound gender fashion, I am male.
From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Rivet Head)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Quest for Peace
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:49:49 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento

In article <1993Jan23.221532.11993@news.columbia.edu> dl35@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (David  Lin) writes:
>In article <93022.224904TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>Just a thought: "Suaron," your initials are TJK.  It's obvious that Suaron is not your real name.  Now...who's posing?
>

[NOT A FLAME]

Why do you say that, David?  If you're assuming that his login ID is his
initials, there's a good possibility that you're wrong.  It may simply
be a pre-assigned login, which many people have.

(If you're base your assumption on some other evidence, I apologize.)

Anyway, who really cares if he uses an alias and doesn't post his real
name.  He has the right to do that, just like anyone else.  I don't like
to give my full name, address, or phone number to people on the net
unless I have a good reason to do so.  Just because I like to remain
anonymous doesn't mean I have anything to hide, though.


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