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From: jartz@bassoon.mitre.org (John Artz)
Subject: What is Porter
Reply-To: jartz@mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:05:25 GMT


I just tried Anchor Porter which seemed just like a Stout.
Are all porters like stouts or just this particular brand ?
If they are similar, what is the difference ?

				



						John M. Artz, Ph.D.

						jartz@mitre.org

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: 6X beer - Wadworths that is...
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:29:19 GMT

smirj@SunLab44.essex.ac.uk (Smith R J) writes:


>As an avid Wadworth drinker in the UK......

>As far as I know it isn't exported, because us 'pommies' drink it all
>coz it's sooooo good...Have you tried Old Timer by Wadworths, because
>it's fabbo, hip and trendy strong tasty winter warmer...
>Hey, I could go into the exprt trade on this one, now that's an idea...

Sounds great! 

I remember drinking 6X in the Bath and Bristol area when I was there
in '82.

Yummmmm.

Tended to get a little sweet in hot weather though.


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From: an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,alt.party,rec.food.drink
Subject: Beer Games availble in hard copy
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:11:35 GMT
Organization: Indiana University
Reply-To: tgolobic@indiana.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



The collection of 83 Beer Games is now available in a handsomely
formatted 20+ page Word Perfect (Macintosh) document for the low low
price of $10 including postage. Your choice of one column or two
columns format.

This is an ideal gift for your partying friends or just as a 
reference tool for yourself.

It can be great fun at parties to have 83 games to choose from
when somebody recommends to play a game.

if interested, e-mail me.

thanks.

-- 
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You've got to cry w/o weeping, talk w/o speaking, scream w/o raising you voice.
You know I took the poison, from the poison stream, and I floated, out of here.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: hellerS@moravian.edu (sjh)
Subject: Good Draft's found locally (finally!)
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 22:35:56 EST

I discovered a country inn only 25 minutes drive from home that is a fine
restaurant as well as a provisioner of several 'rotating' draft beers. At
the moment they are near the end of their Anchor Christmas Ale, but they
also have Pilsner Urquell, Sam Adams Dubble Bock and Double Diamond (amoung
others) on tap. When the Anchor is kicked (any minute now) they expect to
replace it with Murphy's Stout (Ireland), and may also put one of my
favorites, Red Feather Ale, on tap. 

On March 26 they will be having a special night of beer tasting. For $25
one will receive both dinner and samplings of 12 of the finest brews in the
world, followed by the tapping of (at least) a keg of Anchor Old Foghorn,
with a dissertation on beer by John Hansell, local and national writer on
beer and Scotch Whisky.

So, if you're in the area of eastern PA, and want to attend, call The
Farmhouse Restaurant (215/967-6225) in Emmaus, PA, in the Allentown area,
about 50 miles north of Philadelphia.
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
From: elwin@gamma.phys.clemson.edu (Lawrence E. Brown)
Subject: Re: Kraeusen vs Krausen?
Reply-To: elwin@gamma.phys.clemson.edu (Lawrence E. Brown)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:06:30 GMT


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Look, I got a domain name now. I made it myself


>It is pronounced krOYsen. Knowing the difficulty english speakers have
>with umlauts (see my last name), I don't expect to hear it pronounced that
>way often.

Actually, I used to hear it pronounced correctly all the time
when I listened to the radio in Chicago.  All of G. Heilemann's
adds for Old Style Beer make a big noise about how their beer is
"Fully Kroy-zend".

--
Larry Brown                        "Philip K. Dick is dead, alas
elwin@gamma.phys.clemson.edu        Let's all queue up to kick God's ass"
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy      --Michael Bishop in _The Secret Ascension_
Clemson University                  

Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
From: pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Pierre Jelenc)
Subject: Re: Kraeusen vs Krausen?
Reply-To: pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Pierre Jelenc)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:43:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.193833.4689@athena.mit.edu> hbh@athena.mit.edu (Heidi Hammel) writes:
>
>This looks like the english language spelling of the german
>k r "umlaut a" u s, in which case the word should be pronounced
>like "krOYsen".  But everyone I've heard so far says krOWsen.
>How should it properly be pronounced (assuming one is not a
>Sam Adams tour guide)?

I've always said "kroy-zenn".

Funny, it's not in my German dictionary.


Pierre Jelenc                        pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu 
                                    Columbia University, New York
From: bissett@acs.bu.edu (Robert Bissett)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: menthol beer
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:42:28 GMT
Followup-To: Colt 45 insult
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

We can't (or maybe I can't) always afford real beer...good beer I mean.
In those times, Colt 45 is one of my closest alternative friends. It 
*definitely* serves its purpose, and it's better than many a malt liquor
(which I also drink). 

I think malt liquor has been given a worse name than it deserves. Is there
anyone else out there who's not above admitting that sometime we want
to drink without paying much?

There's nothing wrong with Colt 45. Maybe you just can't handle it (I know
*I* had some trouble with Colt 45 Power Master...).

Bobs
From: joachim@kih.no (joachim lous)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Hangover remedies wanted
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:57:44 GMT
Organization: Kongsberg Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

> >     A friend of mine takes some aspirin or Tylenol *before* we go out to
> >   drink. Although this doesn't sound like the best or safest idea, it 
> >   seems to work for him.

>   I've always been under the impression that alcohol and aspirin are
>   A Bad Combination (tm).  What are the facts on that? 

Use extreme caution with drinking after aspirin. The aspirin
destroys some of the alcohol-processing enzymes in your stomach,
which means the alcohol works stronger, faster and longer. I
know people who use this to get drunk quicker and cheaper. Personally
I think that's tasteless, but if you try, remember your normal 
alcohol dose may be WAY too much. Don't know anything about the hangover
effect though...
I haven't found anything better for my headache than water (which only
takes the sharpest edges off for me), but when it comes to a queasy
stomach, a frequent problem of mine after the heaviest nights,
youghurt works miracles, and gets your digestion going again.
Who knows? after a couple of hours you may even be able to eat!

Joachim Lous  (joachim@samson.kih.no)

-All this drinking will be my urin.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Australian Beer
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:01:14 GMT

TRITONE@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (SCHOCH,DANIEL) writes:

>Is there any other beer than XXXX (or XXXX ? ( or is it XXXXXXX ? ))
>in Australia ?

A really great Australian dry stout called Tooth's Sheaf Stout is imported
to the US.

Jon Binkley
From: curryco@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Christian O Curry)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: How to avoid Hangovers
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:12:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: curryco@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Christian O Curry)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g310c3.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

STAY DRUNK!
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
From: pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Pierre Jelenc)
Subject: Re: Kraeusen vs Krausen?
Reply-To: pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Pierre Jelenc)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:49:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.044342.2778@news.columbia.edu> pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Pierre Jelenc) writes:

>
>I've always said "kroy-zenn".
>
>Funny, it's not in my German dictionary.

Oops, it _is_ in the dictionary! It is the plural of "krause", a ruffle, frill,
or ruff. "Kraeusen" is thus the "ruffles" on top of the beer, i.e. the head.



Pierre Jelenc                        pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu 
                                    Columbia University, New York
From: mieczni@ecf.toronto.edu (MIECZNIKOWSKI ALEXEI DANIEL)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Check this one out ...
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:03:25 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility


Some other possibilities:  Doublebarrel beer, gunslinger, outlaw, snake oil, or
hangman.

Cheers!
Alexei.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: AGMCE@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: breweries and thanks
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:09:33 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

I used to live in Montreal a few years back during my crazy undergraduate days
and besides enjoying the local mass-produced product like Molson and Labatts, I
also ran into some rather decent microbreweries. One is St. Ambroise which mak
es an excellent pale ale and is pretty avaible at alot of local pubs. One
called Massawappi is a heavy, dark ale which I found to be very good but I have
heard that the company, like so many in these hard economic times, has gone to
meet its maker. My personal favorite is a brewery called Brasal which is owned
and operated by a German immigrant and his sons and whose brewery I was able to
tour. They make a decent pilsner which tops any Molson or Labatts stuff, but
the real winner is a dark Munich style of beer with a 6% alcohol content
called Brasal Special. I hope this helps.
north (just kidding :*)

Mike Emerson
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mracette@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Racette)
Subject: Re: Frozen beer
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:40:46 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1993Jan24.223327.5419@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM> jdm@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Jim Moore) writes:
>I received a couple of 6 packs of beer via UPS and they were
>left on my doorstep for a couple of nights as I was not home.
>I normally hits 20 degrees F or less here in Colorado Springs at
>night and the beer was frozen from about halfway in the bottle
>up to the top. Is this beer still good?
>
>Thanks,
>Jim Moore

Why not taste it and find out?
From: hoser@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Michael James Golden)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Frozen beer
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:54:19 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

On occassion I've been known to freeze beer in the fridge by accident (I DON'T
like warm beer at all).  When this happens I'll drink it it as it thaws like a
slushee.  Since I like cold beer, this is great even if it thaws completely 
before I drink it.  I don't know how it will taste if you let it sit for a
while after thawing, or after prolonged freezing.
From: v112mwvm@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Richard A Lehr Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: The deterioration of legal systems.
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec31.202539.1278@mwk.uucp>, greer@mwk.uucp writes...
> 
>          From the Houston Post, 31 December, in L. M. Boyd's "Informed
>     Source" column:
> 
>         
>          The ancient Babylonians decreed the death penalty for anyone
>          convicted of selling bad beer.
> 
> 
>          Maybe we need to examine Babylonian law more carefully -- they
>     might have had some others that we could use!
> 
>          The source may be informed, but the nature of many of the items
>     therein causes me to suspect its reliability.  Anybody know if this one
>     is true?
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: briard@dxcern.cern.ch (Francois Briard)
Subject: Re: The price of Belgian ales
Keywords: Belgium, Belgian, ales, expensive
Reply-To: briard@dxcern.cern.ch (Francois Briard)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:30:26 GMT


In article <C16252.JBG@rahul.net>, kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai) writes:
|> Any billiant ideas on why Belgian ales in the USA are so expensive?
|> I assume the Canadians pay a high price too.  Any other parts of the
|> world also?  Belgian ales, out here in California, are by far the most
|> expensive beers you can buy, with nothing else from any other
|> region's brew even a close second.
|> 
|> Typical single bottle, usually 12 oz (355 ml) volume, is $4.50 to $5.75.
|> This is for Orval, Grimbergen, Lindeman's lambics, Duvel, etc.
|> 
|> Is it because of huge tariffs?  Is it because so little is sent to USA
|> from Belgium?


Jut to let you know that most of the Belgian beers you're talking about in
this newsgroup cost about $1.00 in Belgium!

I do think it's the importers who make a lot of money! There are not so few
beers sent to USA but Belgian beer production is quite small for such a huge
country. Belgian brewers try to sell in Belgium first...

There's perhaps another explanation: may the US customs administration put high
taxes on imported beers? I do not know anything about that...

In Canada, Belgian beers are about three times the price, in Switzerland and
France too... Therefore, it is definitely not the trip across the ocean which
is the reason for such high prices in the USA.


Francois Briard,
Belgian Technical Student at CERN - European Lab for Particle Physiscs
From: scott.powell@amail.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Take it off, the label that is.
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:48:13 GMT
Return-Path: <amail.amdahl.com!scott.powell@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>

This is a response to the posting about a month ago about removing labels.
Unfortunately I can't remember the original sender (mainly cause I didn't
archive the letter).  I mentioned I had heard of a product that could remove
wine bottle labels for collecting.  I found the product or at least its
equivalent.

It is called "Label Off."  You can purchase it from "The Wine Enthusiast"
Their number for a catalog is 800 356-8466.

I have no idea if it will work on the labels from beer bottles.  I was told it
doesn't work on all wine bottle labels either.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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From: greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Check this one out ...
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:09:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: redeye.ebay.sun.com


How about BRONCO BILLY BEER?

I haven`t seen a beer with this name.

Greg
From: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: BEER SIDE-EFFECTS
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton)
Organization: The Ozone Hole - SKYDIVE New Orleans! - (504)891-3142 16,800 bps

I hate to admit it, but I was recently reduced to drinking VERY CHEAP
beer.  After drinking a few cans of stuff like Busch or Milwaukee's Best
($1.50 per six pack at the local supermarket) I noticed an odd
sensation.  It is a sort of tingling around the base of my tongue.  Is
there some ingredient in cheap beer that would cause this?

I have never experienced this when drinking more expensive beers, even
standard American brews like Miller.

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From: ericc@teal.csn.org (Eric Cloninger)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Relative Beer Prices (Re: The price of Belgian ales)
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:36:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley) writes:
> 
> As for cheap stuff that's actually good, check out Berghoff beer.
> This is as cheap or cheaper than Bud, Coors, et al., but is a
> decent beer- not great, mind you, but quite possibly the highest
> quality:price ratio of any beer available in the U. S. of A.
> Weinhardt's Ale is also good in this regard.
> 
> Jon Binkley
> 
Ditto on Berghoff. Especially the Bock. Weinhardts is good, too,
but I know quite a few veteran beer drinkers that won't touch
the ale.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer)
Subject: Re: Finnish beer in the S
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:32:11 GMT

In article <3502.1876.uupcb@compart.fi> ulf.sandas@compart.fi (Ulf Sandas)  wri
tes:
>DL>Newsgroups: alt.beer
>DL>Path: fuug!mcsun!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state
>DL>From: dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer)
>DL>Subject: Re: Finnish beer in the States or Canada?
>DL>Sender: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
>DL>References: <trmakuu.727343771@uta.fi>
>DL>Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 20:17:44 GMT
>DL>
>DL>I am not whether the guy who originally posted a request regarding Fin
>DL>actually found any,  but in Columbus, you can get Koff by Sinebryuhoff
>DL>and in Florida (Tampa area) I have seen Karjala and Lapin Kulta,  clas
>DL>beers.  On a related note,  has anybody ever seen Swedish beers in the
>DL>know you can get Aass from Norway regularly,  but How about Falken or 
>DL>Crowns?  Dan.
>DL>
>
>Daniel, I don't think you have missed so much <grin>. Swedish "beer" is 
>definetly not BEER. In Sweden they have a class II beer which is a lighter 
>form of the Finnish class III beer (less alcohol). Actually, they put some 
>water in class III beer to get it to class II. As you can understand, that 
>tastes horrible! The swedish name for these class II beers is "folkoel" 
>=peoples beer. They are not allowed to sell class III beer in Sweden from 
>foodstores. Only class II is allowed. In Finland class III is allowed in 
>generally all foodstores. In my opinion the class III beer is the best 
>beer. We also have class IV which means more alcohol and that doesn't 
>taste as good as class III.
>
>Class on you! Well, actually I meant KIPPIS! <grin>
>
>Uffe
>Uffe
>
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Kiitos hyvaa.  But I distinctly remember Class III Swedish beer -- I have a few
cans in my collection.  They are of course Pripp's which is available here.  I 
specifically wanted to know about _other_ Scandinavian beer.  BTW I do agree 
that Finnish beer is among the very best in the world =).  Na zdorov'e!  Dan.

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From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: menthol beer
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:04:54 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <serb.359@polisci.umn.edu> serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb) writes:
>Hi people,
>
>I just heard that G. Heilemann is going to market a version of Colt 44 Malt 
>Liquor with a taste of menthol added.  Has anyone heard of this sort of beer 
>being brewed before?  It seems like an odd idea, but I don't suppose that 
>you could do anything to Colt 44 to make it worse than it already is...
>
>-- Scott

 Yea, according to the Milwaukee Journal, Stroughs had done it, but they gave 
 up on it. Also according to the Journal it will be marketed to African-
 Americans. Can you say, "Powermaster?"

Ken
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From: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu (Roger Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Lambics
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:24:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH.
Reply-To: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu

There seems to be as many opinions about the special Belgian "wild" 
beers as there are posters!

The best guides I've read about lambics/gueuzes/faros and fruit 
versions thereof were prepared by Micheal Jackson in various guides.

Just wondered...does anyone bottle a true lambic? Or are only the 
blended (old and young lambics), candy-sugar sweetened (faros) or fruit 
blended (kriek gueuze, peche gueuze, frambiose gueuze and cassis 
gueuze) bottled? I had a true lambic during my 36 hours in heaven 
(Brussels) in 1987, but it was from a barrel. It was by Catillon. It 
was of low carbonation and quite sour. On the other hand, the Mort 
Subite Kriek at Mort Subite was champagne-like.

Just wondering. 

BTW, Liefman (the brown ale people from Oudenaarde) do make a 
framboise/frambozen. It was available in the US (the Weinkeller in 
Berwyn, IL) several years ago in the traditional paper-wrapped bottle.

Finally...someone asked if there were "bad" Belgian beers. In my 
opinion, "bad" refers to the freshness and the "tastes" of the drinker. 
Perhaps there are times when a Stella Artois would hit the spot? And 
I've had a couple of Belgian beers (Bios, Rodenbach) that were very 
much acquired tastes!

And I'm getting thirsty and it's not noon.

Cheers,

Roger
-- 

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Extension Communications, Iowa State University, Ames Iowa. 
Subject:  Pocket Guide to Beer - Out of Print
From:  fred@slayer.bellcore.com (Fred Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Organization: Bellcore - Information Technology, Morristown, NJ
Reply-To:  fred@slayer.bellcore.com (Fred Anderson)
X-Gateway: ALEX.ims.bellcore.com
Date:  Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:30:19 EST
To:  news-post%ctt@thumper.bellcore.com
Message-ID: <1993Jan21.164511.2563@ALEX.ims.bellcore.com>
Newsgroups: alt.beer

Michael Jackson's "Pocket Guide to Beer" book is mentioned often
in this newsgroup. I tried to obtain a copy at the bookstore but
they tell me it is out of print. Does anyone know where I can 
obtain a copy of the book?

Thanks,

Fred Anderson
Bellcore
fred@charles.bellcore.com

Newsgroups: alt.beer