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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Use ProDOS disks in a MAC
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:03:47 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <C1Aw31.9CL@rice.edu>, jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.134408.15210@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes:
> 
>>	On another note, what is the best way to download // programs from 
>>a mac to a Apple //?
>>
> 
> It depends; if you're in a more or less permanent installation, the neatest
> solution is to set up personal file sharing on the Mac and grab the files
> via a small AppleTalk network.  Barring that, I'd just copy the files
> onto Mac HFS disks and hand carry them over to the Apple II.  (Oops; I assumed
> that you were talking about a IIGS when you said Apple II.  If you need
> to move files to a different II, particularly one without a 3.5" drive, things
> get more complicated).

	Well, the problem I have/had is that i have access to a //e with 
both 5 1/4 and 3 1/2, but everytime I try to exec binscii to get a running 
copy of binscii, it works till the end, and then when it goes to save 
binscii, it gives me some pathname error. (In the BSAVE command) What 
gives?

	(I'm downloading with a mac, and then writing prodos disks with the 
LCII prodos init.)

Later.......

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From: FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: re: Appleworks 3.0 and Epson APL card
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:05:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I've located my Epson APL card and cable.  If anyone wants it just send me 
$10 and I'll box it up and send it.  I'll cover the shipping.

Eric S. Ford
4360 Pebblestone Ct
Beavercreek OH 45432

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lecates@bach.udel.edu (Roy LeCates)
Subject: Re: Apple File Exchange problems
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:16:42 GMT

In article <1jla5iINN7se@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:
>I'm STILL having problems converting AW files to Microsoft Works.
>My school lab has LC2's.  I've installed Apple File Exchange on the
>hard drive of the LC.  I've formatted a new disk on the GS and then dragged
>the AW files from the 5.25" floppy to the 3.5" disk, formatted with
>GS/OS from System 6.0.  
>Then I run Apple File Exchange.  I then put in the  3.5" disk.  I get the
>message that the Mac doesn't recognize the disk, and the question is asked
>if I want to format the disk or eject it.
>I tried formatting with different Sys Disks and re-installing Apple File 
>Exchange- I get the same message each time.  I've verified the 
>GS/OS formatted disk both with System 6 and with Copy2+ and there seem
>to be no errors.

Why don't you copy the files onto a HFS formatted disk?  Then you can
try to open the files directly in Works.  I'm not sure if Works has an
AW translator, but MacWrite II does have one.  Good luck!
-- 
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Roy M. LeCates       EE Undergraduate        lecates@bach.udel.edu
University of Delaware Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
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From: FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AW to Microsoft - still having problems
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:32:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>> Why don't you copy the files onto a HFS formatted disk?  Then you can
>> try to open the files directly in Works.  I'm not sure if Works has an
>> AW translator, but MacWrite II does have one.  Good luck!
--
>That's the problem.  When I format a Mac disk on the LC2 the the GS (with
>HFS on it) won't recognize it.  When I initialize a disk with HFS from the
>GS- then the Mac won't regognize that! I agree that the eaiest thing would
>be to just the 'drag' the AW from the 5.25" floppy to the Mac disk.  But
>when I do that the LC2 still won't recognize the disk and wants to
>initialize it. I've run out of ideas.  AARRRRRRRRRRGHH!!! 

Are you by any chance using High-density diskettes instead of DS/DD 
diskettes?  The IIGS doesn't care but if you format an HD diskette using 
GS/OS then the Mac won't recognize it at all.  It expects to find a 1.44Meg 
format on an HD diskette.  Of course, if you format an HD diskette on the 
Mac it will be in 1.44Meg format and the IIGS won't recognize it.  I 
routinely trade files back and forth between my office Mac (IIci) and my 
IIGS at home.  I have successfully used disks formatted on either the Mac 
or the GS. The only failures I have experienced occurred when I tried using 
HD diskettes on the IIGS.  By way of experiment I just covered the extra 
hole on an HD and formatted it in the Mac then removed the cover and tried 
to read it -- the Mac gagged and said it was improperly formatted.

Eric S. Ford
forde@uvg.eglin.af.mil

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mark@pokey.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning)
Subject: Re: NEED HELP WITH APPLE ][c
Organization: NASA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:56:23 GMT

> I think you intended to say that the default printer slot is slot one.  
> Therefore to print you would type 'PR#1'.  The second slot default is 
> set for the modem, although using the system utilities the //c slots 
> can be re-configured for other devices.    
> 
> 			_ _ /,
> 	 		\'o.o'          Later-
> 			=(___)=           Eric Michael
> 		           U	          aka: michaeee@mainrt.luther.uni.edu
> 
> 
> 

You are right.  I did.  My mistake and thanks for catching it. :)

The slot defaults are:

0-> Monitor (40 columns)
1-> Printer
2-> Modem
3-> Monitor (80 columns)
4-> CPM card/mouse/misc./any suggestions?
5-> Secondary disk drive slot/mouse
6-> Primary disk drive slot/Hard disk slot
7-> 800k disk drive slot/misc/mouse/suggestions?

In addition, the //e and //gs have a separate slot for their 80 column
cards.  You will usually find, though, that a ram card/80 column card
is in this slot.  There were several manufacturers of these but only
Applied Engineering comes to mind at present.

My Apple //e is a good example.  Every slot has something in it.  Even
slot #3 has something in it (TransWarp).  I sometimes sit and sigh thinking
that it would be nice if the Apple has sixteen, twenty-four, or even
thirty-two slots to it.  But then I'd just have them all filled and my
electric bill would be out the wazoo! ;)
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Formatting troubles :(
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:10:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: zip.1993Jan24.211026.3196
Organization: Eastern Michigan University

In article <C1DD1r.71G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague) writes:
>Whenever I hit ESC while in the Finder, it locks up and I can'tI seem to have a
>problem with my Finder (and all other S16 programs).  Here's the deal.  If I
>try to format a disk (3.5" or 5.25") my GS yells "ALERT! ALERT!" at me, and
>then locks up - kinda.  I can't activate any windows, but
>I have the Animated Watch INIT running, and it keeps running - forever.  I'm
>assuming it's one of the INITs I have installed, but before I do some lengthy
>troubleshooting, I was wondering if anybody else has/had this probelm.  BTW: it
>doesn't crash if I boot up without INITs/DAs.  I've got a 4MB GS, ROM 01,
>running System 6.

Sounds like a problem with GS.SPY, which never did work well for me,
either.  Instead of the "AniWatch" init, you might consider the GS+
CDev called "Cool Cursor" which offers more animations and has never
given me a problem with System 6.

-- 
 __                                                                        __
(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__)
(__)      "I am the terror that flaps in the night!  I am the"            (__) 
(__)              "chill that runs down your spine."       -Darkwing Duck (__)
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: scsi hd on apple ][e
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:07:27 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1993Jan26.215142.7878@actrix.gen.nz> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>There are two SCSI interface cards made by Apple: the original one,
>and the 'High Speed' one.  The latter requires a 65C02 processor
>(enhanced IIe, IIc or IIgs), but is quite a lot faster than the
                ^^^

Is this a mistake or is there a SCSI interface available for the //c?

Bob Church
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0nGPEz-0000WKC; Mon, 25 Jan 93 00: 32 PST
From: dig@pro-cynosure.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Subject: A2-BBS mailing list
Organization: ProLine [pro-cynosure]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 22:29:22 EST

I just wanted to post a message promoting the mailing list I am running,
called a2-bbs.  It's all about running a BBS on an Apple II, and it's open
to anyone who's interested.  To join the list, send an email message to
a2-bbs-request@pro-cynosure.cts.com.

a2-bbs has been around for two or three months now, and everything is
now running smoothly.  There are probably about 50 readers right now, and
the list is growing.  It's mailed out daily as a digest, usually about
5-10K in size.

|Doug Granzow         dig@pro-cynosure.cts.com  or  ...crash!pro-cynosure!dig
|Call: The Cynosure BBS | Free | Internet | 14.4kbps USR DS | +1 410 549 2584
|Ask me about the a2-bbs mailing list!
From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Allison 2.0 preannouncement
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:00:37 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

Last Friday, Scott Gentry revealed that he was close to signing a contract
to begin work on Allison 2.0, the digitizer software for the Enhanced AST
Vision Plus now offered by Alltech.  It used to be called the Visionary
board, nee AST Vision Plus.

There's a new firmware release that enables "Allison Movies" in the upcoming
software.  You'll be able to capture in grayscale, 80x50 frames from video
at 30 frames per second.  Frame editing and splicing, as well as transitions,
are among the planned features in Allison 2.0.  A 16-palette color mode was
also mentioned at the AGS conference.

Upgrades will be handled by Alltech Electronics.  The projected price of the
new digitizer/Allison combo is around $200.  Look for it sometime in the
Spring or Summer 1993.

-- 
Dave Seah (seah@ee.rochester.edu, AFCDaveS@aol.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: damin@wariat.org (Greg Boehnlein)
Subject: Re: GS-Shell information
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: damin@wariat.org (Greg Boehnlein)
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Public Access Uni* Site
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:09:47 GMT

As quoted from <1k0cjoINN9jp@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu> by meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy lee meekins):

+---------------
> In article <1993Jan24.165136.8050@news.csuohio.edu> damin@randell.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein) writes:
> >
> >Hi all...
> >
> >I am in need of source code for a GS Shell program. Detailed information on 
> >where this could be found would be great. How about the source code to ECP-16?
> >:)
> >
> 
> The GNO/Shell source code is available........for a price :)

I promise not to laugh at those pictures of you guys in the GS<>IRC demo.
Really, i though you guys were MUCH prettier..:)
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: HyperCard StarTrek Stack
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:11:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility


The following revelation escaped Richard Anthony's lips:
> 
>         My question - Is anyone planning on converting this stack to the
>         GS?  Do you need a mac or do you just need the hypermover program?

    Why bother?  It probably isn't half as good as Scott Everts' STNG
stacks for HyperStudio.  He already has an extremely well-done set with
colour graphics, digitized photos of the cast, voice and sound samples
and even an animated sequence.  All the direct Mac->GS conversions I've
seen were very poorly done.

    Anyone know when Scott last updated his STNG stacks?

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From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Jim Sather & ...
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 07:15:13 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

Does any know how to get in contact with Jim Sather the author
of the _Understanding the Apple II(&e)_ books??  Also, I'm still
looking for someone willing to part with their _The Apple II
Circuit Description_.         Thanks              Larry

larry@lablues.UUCP
FidoNet:  1:132/300 Larry Schneider

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From: isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: Problems Detected with System 6
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:49:42 GMT

>To both people who are having trouble with System 6 (HFS in
>particular): have you tried re-installing the system software, using
>the five disk set?  Run the Installer, use Custom Installation, and
>reinstall all the appropriate options.

	The System 6.0 I installed from is the final release version.  I
"followed all the rules", using the Installer, etc.  And why, I even
did a low-level format, repartition and high-level format on my hard
disk before trying to install it again.  Everything single thing works
fine except for HFS.  It works with floppies but not hard disks
partition.  I've tried copying System 6.0 from friends but the HFS part
still wouldn't work perfectly.

>One particular problem is installing AppleWorks GS _after_ installing
>System 6.  It seems that AppleWorks GS replaces some of the system
>files with ones from its own system disk, which is only System 5.0.2.
>Having a mixed set of files leads to very bad behaviour, to say the
>least.

	The problem with installing AppleWorks GS seems more serious
than that.  I tried using the Finder 6.0 to copy AWGS to the HFS
partition and it HANGS during writing --- ALWAYS.  When I re-booted, I
noticed that around 1 meg worth of info had been written b4 it hanged.
In fact, it doesn't lie with AWGS alone; any software I tried dumping
over to the HFS partition hangs the Finder during copy and always after
about 1 meg was written.  Seems like a constant problem here.

--
David Empson

- DOTW -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: Using a Stylewriter with Appleworks
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:41:55 GMT

It is not possible. Sorry. If this isn't in the FAQ, it should.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: martyj@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (martin johnson)
Subject: Re: VIDEX:info needed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:05:58 GMT

Badfinger@f438.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Badfinger) writes:


> Does anyone know if VIDEX is still is business? They are the folks who made
>peripheral hardware for the older Apple ][s.. A VIDEX manual I have had them
>at:
>VIDEX
>897 NW Grant Ave.
>Corvallis, OR 97330
>....
> A letter I sent to that address was returned by the Post Office. I need to
>get some information regarding their products:
>- the KEYBOARD ENHANCER ][.. (for an Apple ][+).
>- 80 column card
Their stock of 80 column cards were bought by someone who is still selling
them. I dont have any more info at my finger tips, but can get it to you
in a day or two. I am looking for an editor for the APPLE][e that works
with the videx 80 column card, by the way. Do you know of any ?? name
and/or source?? Hopefully cheap/free??
--
______________________________________________
|  martin johnson      martyj@uiuc.edu       |
|  "mind your business", on first US coin    |
|____________________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: zdjb01@hou.amoco.com (Douglas J. Boddy)
Subject: Re: Can GS power a fan?
Reply-To: zdjb01@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:19:56 GMT



In article 20825@gallux.gallaudet.edu, 11hlayto@gallux.gallaudet.edu (Cybe) writes:
>Hiya there y'all...
>
>I have a question I'd like to ask...and it's pretty obvious from my
>subject line. :)  I've noticed that my GS (It's an upgraded //e) has a
>power connector (or what looks like one) that's labeled "FAN" on the
>motherboard between the RGB and Smartport connectors.  Can anyone
>elaborate more on this connector, and what it's for?  I was thinking
>that I would like to get a small fan from Radio Shack and hook it up to
>this "power connector" so that I could get some cooling for my GS. (I
>just acquired an Transwarp and sure could use the cooling!)
>>

I have a fan in my GS.  I plugs into the fan connection inside the GS.
I bought it from an apple mailhouse outlet in Arizona about 3 or 4 years ago.
I believe it was an Apple product.  You can probably check with some of
the mailhouses (see InCider/A+ magazine).  I wouldn't consider anything
from Radio Shack since it wouldn't be made for the apple.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mark@pokey.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning)
Subject: Re: Problems Detected with System 6
Organization: NASA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:08:43 GMT

The version of System 6.0 which I have was the latest from Apple's
ftp.apple.com.  It is the complete five disk set.  I haven't tried
re-installing the system software, but everything else seems to work
without a glitch.

More on the disk going bad:

The disk does not go bad on the //gs.  It is when I try using the disk
on a Macintosh again (such as a IIfx or an SE or the IIci we have at
work) that it shows as being a bad disk.  I can no longer read the disk
and, in fact, get the "Disk unreadable.  Eject, Format, etc..." message.
The first time this happened was on a disk which didn't have anything
important.  I thought it was just the diskette.  The second time was
on a fairly important disk (My wedding information diskette with everyone's
names on it.).

Since I clean the drives every month I didn't think the disk drives were
dirty but I cleaned them anyway.  No visible dirt - maybe microscopic? ;)

Both diskettes have the same problem.  Track $10 (16) has been clobbered.
I'm not sure about the Mac diskettes, but I believe track $10 is the main
catalog track.  On the //e (the beautiful //e! :) ) I wrote a small disk
dump program which reads a track and dumps it to a disk as a file.  This
is how I recovered the other disk.  This diskette is rather important
because it contains information we might need for a court case.

Thanks so far to everyone who has offered ideas.  I'll give them a try to
see what happens and let everyone know.  :)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: ProDOS on a Mac
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:03:01 GMT

Having obtained the ProDOS driver for the Macintosh, is it possible to force
it to create unforked files? I transfer files to the Mac using an FTP program
and then either use AFE to put them on a ProDOS disk or A2FX on my //e to
copy from a HFS disk to my ProDOS hard disk.

When I moved the files from the Mac HD to the ProDOS floppy they kept their
forked nature and were unreadable on my //e. This makes the ProDOS driver
less than useful for me.
-- 
David Wilson				+61 42 213802 voice, +61 42 213262 fax
Dept Comp Sci, Uni of Wollongong	david@cs.uow.edu.au
From: 90taobri@WAVE.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Floptical drives
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:10:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility


The following revelation escaped Deb's lips:
> 
> The review in Mac-User (?) commented that the Floptical had some
> problems reading lower density (1.4M, 800K, 400K) that had not
> been originally formatted on the Floptical.

    Which brand/mechanism is this?  The InSite floptical doesn't read
800K or 400K disks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: smj@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: midi for //c???
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Access Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:41:23 GMT

I've requested information before.. but I've lost it... I really
want to do this.. thank you!

-- 
Stephen M. Jones (214)436-4622
smj@sdf.lonestar.org  <Cs&E>  sdf.system.administrator
From: gt2038a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2038a gt2038a BROWNING,CHRIS SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: HP Laser JetII W/ IIGS
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:50:46 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Does anyone know how to make a laser printer which can emulate the 
HP laserjet II work with the Apple II GS?  Any help would be 
appreciated.  Thanks

Chris

-- 
ChRiS BrOwNiNg            Give me an     Georgia Tech Research Institute
Computer Engineering      AMIGA or give  "Neural Networks 'R Us"        
gt2038a@prism.gatech.edu  me NOTHING     ESML /EIB
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bdow@ee.ubc.ca (Bruce Dow)
Subject: Re: VIDEX: info needed
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:05:33 GMT

In article <C1HvDz.51v@news.cso.uiuc.edu> martyj@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (martin johnson) writes:
>Badfinger@f438.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Badfinger) writes:
>
>
>> Does anyone know if VIDEX is still is business? They are the folks who made
>>peripheral hardware for the older Apple ][s.. A VIDEX manual I have had them
>>at:
>>VIDEX
>>897 NW Grant Ave.
>>Corvallis, OR 97330
>>....
>> A letter I sent to that address was returned by the Post Office. I need to
>>get some information regarding their products:
>>- the KEYBOARD ENHANCER ][.. (for an Apple ][+).
>>- 80 column card
>Their stock of 80 column cards were bought by someone who is still selling
>them. I dont have any more info at my finger tips, but can get it to you
>in a day or two. I am looking for an editor for the APPLE][e that works
>with the videx 80 column card, by the way. Do you know of any ?? name
>and/or source?? Hopefully cheap/free??
>--

Sorry to hear about the demise of VIDEX. I have an 80 column card
I'm not using that can go REAL CHEAP to anyone in need.

Bruce
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Imagewriter.CL driver
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:00:59 GMT

As far as I know, the System 6.0 Apple driver is better than the
ImageWriter.CL driver.  The _only_ possible benefit of the ImageWriter.CL
driver is the "Darker" checkbox, which is great when your ribbon is
getting old.

I'd like to see that added to the Apple driver... :)

- Eric S.

--
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InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."