HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Okay, what *is* that view? (was: Re: Pre-Sex Contract)
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:43:19 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <Dec.16.09.39.32.1992.7061@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.060012.6265@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> howeird@hpl.hp.com (Howard Stateman) writes:
>>
>>I suspect that the number of men obsessed with sex is a far greater
>>percentage of the population than the number of women obsessed with sex.
>
>Howard, you haven't met enough women in their thirties yet. :-)

Remember, a woman's sex drive peaks in their mid-thirties!  <smile>

>vocal or obvious.  And with men, there's the whole if-I'm-not-obsessed-
>with-sex-I'm-not-a-Real-Man worry.  Yes, I have actually known men
>who worried that people would think them less than macho if they didn't
>display an active interest in the opposite sex.

And I know a lot of women who are turned off by such a display.  No woman
wants to feel that she is just an object of a man's sexual lust.  For men,
well, that might be a different story.  Because it happens less frequently,
it might be seen as flattering to a man... <grin>

>So I don't think you can go by appearances.  Is he really obsessed with
>sex or does it just look that way?

Perception is everything, dear.  It doesn't matter what a man feels - all
that counts is what he can make you *believe* he feels.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:42:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Dec11.164539.2073@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:

>I thought that we were talking about ATTRACTION, and when/how men and
>women discover that they are attracted to each other.  Colleagueship
>does not count.

Then what did your poll _really_ ask?  "How many of you have initiated
mate-getting behaviour with someone you weren't interested in having as
a mate?"  Wouldn't that pretty much just identify the odd ones who like
to create havoc?  I'm kinda glad I ignored your poll.

I have _lots_ of reasons to meet new women, and things like "I want to
work successfully with this person" are relevant.  I may just want to
talk with someone in the grocery store line to pass the time.  I may
want to know what she thinks of the play we both happen to be seeing.
These, oddly enough, are pretty similar to reasons for starting up
conversations with men.  They can also sometimes lead to more than that.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Sometimes it feels like the sun just comes up out of habit,
 And goes down as quick as it can,
 These days, you just have to grab it as it goes by."
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: How come we aren't getting it?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:18:36 GMT

In article <92351.002507U60703@uicvm.uic.edu> <U60703@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>Hello...
>
>Ireceived many  informative responses to my first ques. posted...so...
>I have another one for you all out there in Netternetterland :)
>
>My feelings are that you are an intelligent/friendly group of people...
>(okay ...well...sometimes silly/immature/irrational...but...hey...who's
>perfect? :)
>
>The responses taught me a great deal about what men think...how they
>perceive things...(never figure them out though :)......I concluded that
>most of us men/women are looking for the same things in a relationship
>(pretty much anyway).....we all want/need love, companionship, acceptance,
>emotional/sexual intimacy, effective communication, understanding,
>support.......etc.
>
>My Ques -> So how come we aren't getting it? Why are we still closing off
>           that part of ourselves that may enable us to learn to under-
>           stand each other so we can mutually get what we desire???
>
>I know about fears of....rejection, being hurt, losing yourself, losing
>your "space", loving and losing, etc.....but we keep going around these
>circles...we are still "avoiding"  opportunities to change things between
>us women/men for the better....
>
>I have been  thinking about this lately...just wondering why....And, I
>presented the question in terms of "we" vs. I because I've talked to
>others who feel the same way.....
>
>So...what do you all think?...which way do we need to go from here?
>
>Carole :) (still trying to find time to make that sig!!!!)
>
 
Desperately seeking Daniel Moscny. Daniel Moscny are you out there.
We've taken a hit. Loosing altitude. SOS. SOS. I can't fight the good
fight w/o some fertilizer. Lets change that to fodder. Plenty of fertilizer.
Where for art thou.
 
Do tell. I feel we're avoiding the aforementioned opportunities in a 
somewhat symbionic desire to toe the line, hold the gains. Therefore I
propose we join as one to stananktify the very core of the essence that
perpetuates the desire to remain different as juxtasupposed to a joining
of the minds. That is to say, to mold the very existence of mankind and
womankind into a greater whole for the betterment of the mext generation.
Pip, pip and all that rot. Cheerio and milk. Tar Tar and white fish.

 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
                                 doh#0000000005
================================================================================
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Cat Presents - from a concerned citizen
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:37:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <1992Dec9.174424.3953@mtu.edu> rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi) writes:
>In article <Byw4Cw.MyM@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec2.232626.1043@mtu.edu> rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi) writes:
>>>   Cat owners that let their beasties reap the birdies and other
>>>little critters (and some not so little) of the area down to
>>>nonexistance should be roundly applauded for their callousness
>>>when they say "Oh isn't that cute PuddyCat brought me a present!"

I had to comment here about the cat owners who just let their
felines go and hope they will fend for themselves.  We have a 
situation here in the San Francisco area that shows what can
happen.  So many people have let their cats go in the Golden Gate Park
area, that the bird population is being disseminated.  It is a serious
problem, that is causing quite a bit of debate in the San Francisco
area.  Some people want to round up the stray cats and dispose of
them, others want a hunt organized.  Either way, something has
to be done.  But it shows what can happen when man introduces 
creatures not native into an ecosystem.
--Keith
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Real News
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:36:29 GMT
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA

In article <MARTINC.92Dec16113202@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.194639.9515@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas) writes:
>
>>  Mr. Tickle Monster IS a net.personality [TM]
>

     I respectfully disagree.  I never have been and never will be.

>However, whether he is a sentient being is open to question.
>--

     I can be, but haven't shown it that much on the Net.

-- 
"Blind faith in your leaders or anything will get you killed." B. Springsteen
                                         +---------------------------------+
  +-----------------------------------+ /  On Vacation:  12/21 to 12/27   /
 /   // Mr. Tickle Monster   // Amiga ++---------------------------------+
|  \X/   W. David Rohwer   \X/  3000  /  Internet: rohwerwd@netcom.COM  /
+------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Frogs (was Re: New Relationships...)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:06:56 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1992Dec15.230110.23872@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
}In article <oneil.724227891@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
}>
}>[Deleted: Lengthy thread about how princes tend to turn into frogs and that
}>occasionally a frog can turn into a prince, although you do have to kiss a 
}>lot of frogs first.]
}
}I don't see what's so terrible about frogs--sometimes those long, nimble
}tongues can come in handy. 

Recently it has been discovered that the perspiration of some frogs can
cure depression, so licking frogs would be the thing for some folks to do.

But not the Kokoi frog.  Its perspiration is the deadliest poison in nature.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi)
Subject: Re: sexual addiction - take two
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:27:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.214432.22472@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:
>
>              For flavor, instant sex will never supercede 
>              the stuff you have to peel and cook. 
>                                  -- Quentin Crisp

   I suppose that instant chocolate pudding is right out of the question?
*sigh*

   songbird
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Unlurking Alert
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:21:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <92344.203710SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Graydon) writes:

>Hmmm... at a rough guess, you need to find someone you don't intimidate.
>
>*how*, well, I don't know, I've got the wrong gender spin on the problem.

Probably a fairly accurate assessment.  I got the same kind of "compost"
(good word, that) as M'Linda for a long, long time.  

So I stopped living in exotic locales, quit my job at the magazine, and
became a part-time secretary (while working on a novel, but who had to
know?).  Lo and behold, I got dates!  I even got deeply involved!  Once I
got involved, of course, I ditched the secretary job and became a university
development and speech writer.  Too late for him; he was already in love
with me; what could he do?

;-)
 

-- 
The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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From: wa137@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (john e. clark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Truth
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:50:58 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <DN9uVB5w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
+lothie@syrinx.umd.edu (Lothie) writes:
+
+> I have a LOVELY definition of Truth that I'd like to share with everyone.
+> 
+> 	Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty; that is all
+> 	Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
+> 
+> 				-- John Keats
+> 				"Ode on a Grecian Urn"
+
+Yes, this is nice. The greatest beauty therefore is the greatest truth.
+That is God, the Absolute Truth, Who is absolute beauty.

And further more in Wild's  Ode to Graecian Formula 99, "Beauty can
commit no crime"...

But being a DADA-ist at hart, beauty may also be found in road
kill...DDDDDDAADADADADADDDDADDDADADADADADAAAAADDDDAADDADD
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:25:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.thurlow.724263927
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Dec10.213129.6300@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:

>This is interesting (to me) because I was just having a conversation
>with a male friend about voices.  He remarked about my voice saying that
>if it wasn't THE sexiest voice he had ever heard, it was a close second
>or tie.

I'd have to agree that your voice is one of those deluxe models pulled
from the top shelf, Mel.  I agree, a sexy voice is a big asset.  It's
surprisingly easy to improve your voice beyond what you got issued to
you at birth, too.  There's a few friends who could really make good
use of a basic "use your voice" class or two.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Sometimes it feels like the sun just comes up out of habit,
 And goes down as quick as it can,
 These days, you just have to grab it as it goes by."
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cocoa@netcom.com
Subject: Kissing Frogs
Organization: Bourbon Street
Distribution: na 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:43:06 GMT

In article <1fu1r8INN2la@golem.wcc.govt.nz> parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <1992Dec3.162529.15470@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>
>>>Nowadays I go for those shy Nice Guys, and I have to work so hard
>
>I've decided to keep on kissing the frogs in the hope one will turn into a
>prince.  I've found that the princes usually turn into frogs sooner or later
>anyway.

One of my best friends sent me a wonderful card with a very similar sentiment.

It read:

"What's the difference between a Nice Guy and a Jerk?"
"Nice Guys become Jerks later on."

So it's best to just enjoy the moment, instead of worring whether and when
someone will become a jerk.

Just me,

little 'e'

(who finally got a spare second to read news, hi everybody!)

-- 
*  *  *    Chocolatier at Arms, and Castle Wetware Liason            *  *  *
*  *  *    e-mail: cocoa@netcom.com   -    voicemail: 415-337-4940   *  *  *

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: Is there an FAQ?
Keywords: frequently asked questions
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:51:56 GMT

tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> 
>Q:  What is the sound of one hand clapping?
> 

A:  Three and a half feet.


-- 
:::::::::::::::::::  Greg Andrews  gerg@netcom.com  :::::::::::::::::::
ObGuindon:  Roger Blunt has been saving newspapers most of his life.
            Later on, he figures to make some trees.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:16:11 GMT

In article <101671@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:

|> Would someone define gold-digging?
|> 
|> If a man asks me out, and I don't know him very well, I assume he's
|> paying.  If he doesn't, he's got no class whatsoever, IMO.  Frankly, it
|> hasn't happened to me (though it did happen to a friend of mine).  
|> 
|> If it's not a first date, I'll usually offer to pay my way, depending on 
|> the guy -- some guys would rather _always_ pay; others like to split the 
|> bill.  Usually, though, I end up with guys who, if they ask me out, plan
|> on paying.  In those cases, I'll usually offer to leave the tip or buy
|> dessert.
|> 
|> I imagine it would be different if I asked a man out, but that isn't my
|> style.  

|> So, would any guys out there in net.land consider any of this 
|> "gold-digging"?  I'm honestly not very familiar with the term.

Nah, that's not what I would call gold-digging. Now, if someone were dating
a person more-or-less *because* they made a lot of money, and always
expected that person to buy them things, pay for everything, etc. etc., now
that would be gold-digging. Simply expecting someone who asks you out to
pay the check is just commonly accepted social behavior. 

When I reread the above paragraph, it looks like the two situations aren't
all that different, but that's not the case. They're very different, but
a large part of that difference is attitude, IMO.

jds

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:10:08 GMT


One point I really do have to quibble with is, why did Jane stick around
for the concert?

The logical conclusion after dinner was that she was on her own for the
concert ticket and this was not a 'traditional' date.  If I had been 
that offended about the check,  unless I really, really wanted to see 
the concert, I would have been long gone after dinner.

--
              For flavor, instant sex will never supercede 
              the stuff you have to peel and cook. 
                                  -- Quentin Crisp
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Size 8? (Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men)
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:34:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Dec12.214837.24675@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>Hmmmm...does that mean if I'm unspeakably rude to you that you'll come over
>and sit on my ribcage for a few hours as well?  (Though I should warn you--
>I'm awfully sturdy, so you might want to make the punishment even worse by
>shifting variously forward or back and bouncing up and down a bit....)
>
>Trygve   (Looking for his 'Don Rickles Jokebook'....) 

Trygve, I have the greatest confidence that you (and Charlie too, for
that matter) could survive this kind of treatment for quite some time.
Perhaps a woman could more effectively torture the two of you by
*refusing* to sit on your ribcages for a couple of hours?  

				--Diamond

diamond@acpub.duke.edu| We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn
Elizabeth S. Abrams   | them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress 
		      | but the memory of the smell of smoke, and the  
                      | presumption that once our eyes watered. -Tom Stoppard
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:02:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.165733.21691@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>In article <bkt.724112029@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov>, bkt@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Barrie Trinkle) writes:
>> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>> 
>> >You misunderstand quite a bit.  Most women that I know have a real problem
>> >with "outside women" calling up or coming over:
>> >	he:	Oh, she'e just a good friend.
>> >	she:	Yeah, right!!!
>> 
>> >Women that I have known, even as "just friends" have a real problem with
>> >a man that she might be out with _even noticing_ another woman while
>> >they are out together, much less, going to talk to her:
>> >	he:	She's kinda' cute.  I think I'll go and talk to her.
>                ------------------
>Talking to somone of the opposite sex for the above reason alone makes
>it understandable that she would get POed.
>
Larry,
Please explain your rationale here.  Bear in mind that, in this scenario,
the woman that you are out with professes to be a "just friend", and further
professes that that is the extent of the relationship that she wants with you.
If you were out with one of your homeys, would he get "bent" if you decided
to strike up a conversation with a woman that caught your eye?  Why should
a woman just-friend behave any differrently?  Also bear in mind that _until_
you engage a person in conversation, all that you have to go on is their
outward appearance, and how they carry themselves.  The flow of the
conversation will determine whether there is a basis for further communication.

I await your response.

Keith R
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Book
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:29:41 GMT
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu's message of 15 Dec 92 19:44:21 GMT

In article <102190@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:

   In article <1992Dec14.014037.26694@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
   >Three more chapters makes four! </.)
   >
   >dreas

   Go, dreas!

   What's the book about?

So far, about four chapters.

How could I resist?
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:39:48 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <724066808.19973@minster.york.ac.uk> aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>  As I prefer cats does this mean that I must be reconstructed New Man ?
								^^^^^^^

No, I think that means you can be described as a Nice Guy <tm>

Sorry.  You lose.  :)


>
>
>		Aaron			aaron@minster.york.ac.uk

Later.

andy
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