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From: jmoore@lab9.smcm.edu (Joshua D. Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: an awesome new CD!!
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:32:07 GMT

In article <1g3tqsINN9j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  
(Bob Nekic) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, coan@griffin (Brian M Coan) says:
> 
> >Yo, I just got "Pop: The First 20 Hits" by Erasure.
> >
> >It kicks ass.
> >
> 
> 
> Actually, I agree.  I picked it up last week after hearing it in a
> store.
> It's one of the best "..Hits" collections I've heard.
> A bit pricey, but well worth it for 20 tracks.
> 
> Of course, you have to like this kind of stuff and a lot of people on
> here probably don't, but...as far as I'm concerned it's one of the best
> CDs I've bought in a -long- time.
> 

well in an attempt to avoid a flame war which would do nothing but take my  
time when i should be studying.....you need to get to better stores, i  
might suggest picking up a few discs by LeaetherStrip Klut and  
Psychopomps, all three of whom are composed of/influenced by Claus Larson.   
they are out on the Zoth Amogg(sp?) label from denmark i think, try and  
special order it. the LeaetherStrip that i own is Solitary Confinment and  
the Steal single, well worth the somewhat exorbitant prices.....and as a  
little bitty flame:  far better than anything erasure could even hope to  
think about listening to much less recording....sorry that just slipped.

-dyl.
search for the one who will submit to your fantasies.
						LeaetherStrip
From: mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:56:01 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN

In article <0f_zPBO00WB7EGI90D@andrew.cmu.edu> jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph Velardi) writes:
>
>Matt Crotch writes:
>
>> >Ogre?  Best voice?  Oh please.  My cat could do better.
Nice spelling of my name, jerkoff.  It indicates your maturity level....
-mAtt


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From: csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Decker)
Subject: Best song to dance to?
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:14:23 GMT

"Teethgrinder" - Therapy?
Possible "JBMH" - Minstry.

Opinions?

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From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: What a joke
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:56:09 GMT

In article <0f_aDqq00WB2MIp25l@andrew.cmu.edu>, Joseph Velardi <jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> 
|> Ogre?  Best voice?  Oh please.  My cat could do better.
|> How many of you have heard Ogre's undistorted singing voice?
|> Ninety percent of what you hear when listening to Ogre is a direct
|> result of signal modification...not talent.  Why do you think vocalists
|> like Ogre use distortion consistently?  Hmmm...it might have something
|> to do with a last ditch effort to make their voices the least bit
|> interesting.

Oh please, I suppose synth players aren't talented because they aren't playing
piano? NOBODY could use an unmodified singing voice and achieve the same
results as Ogre+effects. Likewise, I've never heard another singer + effects
combo sound the same as Ogre.  Which should answer your next question.
  
|> 
|> If you can tell Ogre's voice apart from Sasha Konietzko's or Bill
|> Leeb's, you can probably hear my fingers hitting the keys as I type this.
|> 
I have no problems whatsoever distinguishing between these vocalists.

jds

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From: laciakr@kirk.msoe.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Leaether Strip Contact & Fan Base
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:50:20 CDT
Organization: Milwaukee School Of Engineering, Milwaukee, WI USA
Summary: Leaether Strip Contact & Fan Base
Reply-To: laciakr@kirk.msoe.edu
Followup-To: laciakr@kirk.msoe.edu
Keywords: Leaether Strip Fan Base Zoth Ommog Klute Industrial
Distribution: usa

This is the U.S. Fan Base for the Danish Industrial bands Leaether 
Strip & Klute.  Also, info on Zoth Ommog and Psychopomps can be found.

Send 1-2 stamps or 1-2 IRC's for membership, kool stickers, info and
band contact.  Send to:

G.A.W.M.U.S. Leaether Stip/Klute U.S. Fan Base
c/o Ric Laciak
P.O. Box 353 Suite MLH 220
Milwaukee, WI  53201 USA

OR E-MAIL questions/comments/letters to:

laciakr@kirk.msoe.edu

If you have problems finding CD's, the Fan Base is here to help!

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From: dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Info on Esplendor Geometrico
Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:58:59 GMT

mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones) writes:
>That is their only CD thus far, released on the Daft label from
>Germany (run by Dirk Ivens from the Klinik and Dive).

are you sure of this? i could swear i've seen another CD of theirs
on that Italian label Musica Maxima (Vasilisk and Ordo Equium Eso or
somesuch is on that label also).

i guess i'd better go dig up some zines and see if i saw that right...

hasta.
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From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SPK recommendations needed
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:30:38 GMT
Organization: Charnel House

keithd@versyss.com (Keith Doyle) writes:
: In article <Bz3CvI.IL6@dcs.ed.ac.uk> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
: >
: >Leichenschrei
: >Information Overload Unit
: >Zamia Lehmanni
: 
: Anyone with any ideas where they can be found in Southern California?  

Go to Aron's in LA, they should have them.  If not they'll be able
to order them for you.

: I also read an intriguing review of "Toiling Toggle" by Steven Teschler (sp?)
: but I've yet to find that anywhere.  Anyone heard it?  Due to the often
: biased nature of the fringe reviewers, I'd like a second opinion.

Well, I think it's great and I sell it by mail-order, too.  It's
actually by Jorg Thomasius and Conrad Schnitzler.  You're getting it
confused with a new release by Stephan Tischler on the Extreme label,
I believe.  In any case, "Tolling Toggle" is a great release which
nobody seems to have heard of.  Cool sound textures, some of them
rough and some of them ambient, sounding something like Zoviet
France working with a different set of sound sources.  Impossible
to describe I guess.  If you're interested drop me a line.


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From: piovanel@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (marco piovanelli)
Subject: Re: othe DVA
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:19:30 GMT

Contempo records has a cool book out now:

  CLOCK DVA "Black Words on White Paper"

It includes all lyrics for the CLOCKDVA albums and EPs from "White Souls
in Black Suits" to "Buried Dreams", a lot of previously unpublished
photos, mostly B/W, early ads and artworks, &c.
There are also fragments for an unpublished story by Adi and friends,
called "Invisible Suns".

And (I almost forgot), there's a CD inside the book.
Four tracks, about 20 minutes, poor sound quality but that old feeling
of "White Souls in Black Suits" (the recordings data back to 1978, I
think...)

					-- marco
From: mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:29:51 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN

In article <0f_aDqq00WB2MIp25l@andrew.cmu.edu> jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph Velardi) writes:
>
>Ogre?  Best voice?  Oh please.  My cat could do better.
>Best voice:  Bjork from the Sugarcubes.
Sugarcubes.. now _that's_ industrial!

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From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Subject: Re: EBN:  Any comments on their video?
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:22:15 GMT

I went to a rave reaturing EBN in Providence a few months ago.  I posted
a review, but seem to have deleted it since then.

They had some great stuff going.  Tons of video screens, slides, lasers, and
smoke.  Quite an assult on the senses.  The music seemed to be entirely
constructed from random samples, from C-Span to movies... all set to a catchy
beat you could dance to... not really.  More of a pounding beat which you 
could jump around to, but no one did since you were bound to miss something
cool if you didn't stand rivited watching the video screens.  Kind of looked
like a group of people out of Orwell's 1984 or something.

Anyway, it was cool.  I really want to see them in concert, as this was only
a rave.

BTW- it seems they've gotten a new EBNmobile.  I saw a station wagon a few
months ago with EBN all over it, lots of booms and arms on the roof, but
just 2 weeks ago I saw a huge blazer.  It must be a Suburban from it's size.
I guess they fit it up with video screens and speakers which rotate on the
booms, and then park it in front of their concerts or something.  Friends
say it was cool... I just saw it parked on the street.

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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Cabaret Voltaire - 70 billion
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:08:45 GMT

In article <1gbgs0INN5tr@menudo.uh.edu> st1qb@Elroy.UH.EDU writes:
>If this has been discused before, please excuse me.
>     
>I was wondering if the CV sample of '70 billion people...' is
>from a movie, if so which one? 

Nope, it's from an episode of "Outer Limits", the 1960s TV series. The
episode's called "The Man with the Glass Hand".

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
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From: "wolf kaffer" <wolf.kaffer@canrem.com>
Subject: ministry's latest album t
Reply-To: "wolf kaffer" <wolf.kaffer@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:41:01 EST

-> Supposedly, it means "Psalm 69 - The way to suceed and the way to
-> suck eggs."
-> When Al was asked about it, he just said it was important that people
-> knew it was "something 69."  (like book 69, psalm 69, chapter 69.)
-> It's supposed to be taken from some ancient obscure arabic language.

I was wearing the T-shirt and a guy at work(who's greek) said that it
meant 'Head', and when you add the 69 that was below it, it makes more
sense. Especially since it's from Ministry!
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From: bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Tear garden
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:43:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Does anyone know whether Tired Eyes Slowly Burning is still available?
My local CD shop has been unable to get a copy of it since they started
trying in August or September.  Is it really this rare, or is the CD
shop staff just incompetent?

If anyone wants to sell theirs, let me know, too.

-bevis
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From: jani.patokallio%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Jani Patokallio) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy question
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: jani.patokallio%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Jani Patokallio) 

In message <q5JoVB4w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> markp@noncomf.tdkcs.
waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:
-> archer@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Zog Archer) writes:
-> > I remember when Information Society put clips of modem transmissions in with
-> > the songs, that was neat... "Download" doesn't sound a whole lot like a
-> 
-> 	That sound is a sample of a CD being fast-forwarded.
-> Actually, several samples played back-to-back. After listening
-> to the song the first time, I tried it with my sampler, and got
-> the same effect (although different sounds 'cause of different
-> CD). Of course, I can't use it because it's already done :-(. 

That explains it!!!  You see, a while ago, I heard a friend of mine (with
rather different musical tastes) play a Simon & Garfunkel CD.  Then,
he starts fast forwarding it, and I realize that it sounds ALMOST EXACTLY
LIKE DOWNLOAD!!!  It was positively freaky...  It wasn't the same
though, it sounded very much like the first part of DL.  Maybe DL's from
another S&G CD...  I'll hafta borrow his collection and investigate.

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From: slp9k@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Coil Discography?
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:56:28 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Does anyone out there have a Coil Discography?  I'd like to work on getting the
whole thing.
If anybody has any hard to come by Coil stuff that they might be willing to
sell let me know.
Also, if anyone can get a hold of _Stolen and Contaminated_ I'd love to buy
that.  One record store around here had five copies but they were gone before I
knew they had them.  (They thought it was a bootleg)

Thanks in advance.
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From: st1qb@Elroy.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Cabaret Voltaire - 70 billion
Date: 12 Dec 1992 01:56:16 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: st1qb@Elroy.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu

If this has been discused before, please excuse me.
     
I was wondering if the CV sample of '70 billion people...' is
from a movie, if so which one? 
     
I really became more interested in this from CV's new album
_Plasticity_  the last track tells you were the 70 billion people
are hiding.  It just caught my interest.
 
later
dave
st1qb@jetson.uh.edu
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From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: SP
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:33:43 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <17555@umd5.umd.edu> cmoore@lab5.smcm.edu writes:

> > Finally, have any singles been released after "Inquisition"?
> 
> no
> 
>   Are any planned?
> 
> i don't know, i heard that there would be a "love in vein"cd5 somewhere,  
> but it doesn't look like it will be released. 
> > Mark wagner@macc.wisc.edu
> > 
	Actually, there IS a Love in Vein CD 5, a 1-track single, including
only Love in Vein. It is/was a promo release only, to make up for the timing
mistakes on the CD. If you can do what I did (get a DJ at your local college
radio station to look for it and give it to you), then it might not be all that
hard to find.

> 
> c.morpheus
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From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:41:40 GMT

Answer:

No, I never had...

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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Cabaret Voltaire - 70 billion
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:13:45 GMT

Andrew C. Crowell writes
| st1qb@Elroy.UH.EDU writes:
| >I was wondering if the CV sample of '70 billion people...' is
| >from a movie, if so which one? 
| 
| Nope, it's from an episode of "Outer Limits", the 1960s TV series. The
| episode's called "The Man with the Glass Hand".

Just picked up a copy from BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO...

"Demon with a Glass Hand"

Featuring:  Robert Culp,
            Lynne Marta

Directed by: Byron Haskin

A classic piece of TV science fiction, from the second (last) season of the  
series.  Culp is a man of the future sent back to the present to save his race  
from evil alien invaders.  Shot on same locations as BLADE RUNNER.Written by  
Harlan Ellison, who sued the makers of THE TERMINATOR over this.
1964       52 Min.     B & W
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From: mliggett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mister Wizard)
Subject: Re: NIN's Fixed- where is it?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:28:11 GMT

In <168BEE0D9.KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu> KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu writes:

> 
>From the messages being posted it is obvious that the new "fixed"
>cd is out, but is anybody else having trouble finding it? I've
>been to most of the music stores in town and nobody's got it.
>two usually dependable shops i get most of my music at didn't have
>it, nor did a couple chain stores. i'll hit the mall later tonight
>but i somehow doubt i'll find it at musicland, sam goodie or disc

au contraire.
i found it at musicland.
[HINT]  LOOK in the SINGLES section.
it is not catalogged as a an lp or ep but a single (cd5)
go figure.

>jockey. where is everybody else finding this disc and when did it
>come out?
> 
>frustration!
> 
>kyle c schiebel

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From: Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Wagner)
Sender: FredGate@p0.f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: 18 Dec 92  14:31:02 EST

  To: ALL                           Recvd: NO
Subj: Re: What a joke                Conf: (1) U_Rec_Musi

AC>Awww, that's a bit hard on poor 'ole Bill, isn't it? True, if you look at
   .
   .
   .
AC>else, just not particularly original either.

I agree with all your facts, but not your implicit normative
claims.  I just like (the unoriginal) Bill Leeb!  There is really no
point in discussing the facts.

AC>As for the lyrics, well, yes, you won't find me disagreeing there. As Ben
AC>has pointed out elsewhere, some of the lyrics from _TNI_ are a direct steal
AC>from ClockDVA. I don't think it's any coincidence that my favourite

Sounds interesting, could you please site some specific steals?  This is
just for my own amusement.  I am not questioning your claim.  In fact, I
beleive your claim.  But still...I just like (the stealer) Bill Leeb!

AC>is in some ways a bad move since in an effort to pad out each
AC>release they must include almost *everything* they write, even if
AC>it's Not Very Good. I think Leeb's reputation as derivative and not
AC>particularly good stems from this - if he and Rhys were to take, say,
AC>the best tracks from each of this years releases the resulting album
AC>would be very good indeed.

I would have to disagree with the normative claim.  Keep on releasing
almost everyhting you write, Bill and Rhys. I'm cheering for you!

AC>There was a point to this post at some stage but I seem to have forgotten
AC>it.

There was no point--there were many points.

AC>(*) Although given what I've heard of the new Noise Unit, the gap between
AC>FLA and Noise Unit is now so small as to be nonexistent.

Praise the Lord!  This was my emotive repsonse.  I haven't thought of
the ramifications of the fact you mention, and I probably won't.  Would
you like to mention some?

Mark Wagner@macc.wisc.edu

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From: Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Beatnigs question
X-To: NAME
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:51:00 GMT

2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu (NAME) writes: 


>I'm looking for a more or less complete discography for the Beatnigs..

This one is easy.  The Beatnigs did one album, called THE BEATNIGS, one 
12" single for "Television" (which features a smokin' remix by Adrian 
Sherwood), and a track or two on compilations.  All of this stuff is 
collected on the CD of THE BEATNIGS LP on (of course) Alternative 
Tentacles.

If anyone knows of any other Beatnigs material, lemme know.


Greg

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