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From: sooz@iastate.edu (Susan F Bradley)
Subject: Re: Historic Food
Organization: Dept of English -- IOWA STATE UNIV
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:19:02 GMT

In <15718sINNdr6@rodan.UU.NET> evie@rodan.UU.NET (Evie Allen) writes:

>In article <92211.150749U21187@uicvm.uic.edu> John Schulien <U21187@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>As recently as 1991 my old roommate's fridge had a vintage 1987 bowl of
>>fettucini. My parents have a box of breakfast cereal in the pantry with
>>an expiration date of 1972. Does this qualify as historic food?
>>
>Hey that works for me!!     
>What kind of cereal would that be?  Wheaties last forever!

Me too! And I would think that the fettucine would qualify as a new life form,
perhaps even a sentient being by now!

Sooz
sooz@iastate.edu
From: canders@isr.harvard.edu (Carl E. Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.food.historic
Subject: Re: Hawfiskur (not sure how it's spelled, and was Re: Garam)
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:24:36 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>>This sounds like a slightly less gruesome version of hawfiskur (that's how
>>it's pronounced, I have no idea how to spell it), an Icelandic... ah...
>>food. Not a delicacy. ;) You catch a trout (maybe a cod, clean it, wrap it
>>in cabbage leaves, bury it in the ground for six months (preferably in the
>>permafrost), and then dig it up, clean it off, cut it into *very* small
>>chunks, and eat it. It's incredibly good for you, and it tastes (and
>>SMELLS) truly horrific. Normally, it's eaten accompanied by some pretty
>>strong alcohol...
>
>I didn't actually try it while I was over there but the story I had was
>that it was shark that was buried for twelve months, and that it should
>be soaked in urine as well. Was someone having me on, or was the urine
>to break down the fish in some way.

	I think the shark is different from hardhfiskur, though I forget
the word for the buried shark.  The process of preparing the shark is
something of a mystery yet, but I was told that you bury it in sand and
then piss on the spot (the trickle down effect) until it was done (however
many months it is).  I think the urine is a legitimate part of the
preparation and I assume it breaks the fish down in some way, but I don't
know exactly.
	I have _not_ tried this one :)

Cheers,
Carl

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From: sooz@iastate.edu (Susan F Bradley)
Subject: Re: recipes
Organization: Dept of English -- IOWA STATE UNIV
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:31:57 GMT

In <1992Jul31.090134.2405@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> md_norma@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (MD Norman) writes:

>The organisation English Heritage produces a set of booklets
>( about 6 in total ) detailing English food through the ages.
>The booklets as I recall go from prehistoric times, through
>Roman up to Victorian. yje are quite an interesting read with
>good recipes updated for modern ingredients. I will post a few
>recipes from these on return from holidays.
>                                Regards
>                                      Mike

Mike - 
   Do you suppose there is any way a person over here in the US could get ahold
of those booklets? (Not yours - obtain copies for oneself!)

Sooz Bradley
sooz@iastate.edu
From: alexm@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:10:54 GMT
Organization: Mass General Hospital CIPR

Test, please disregard
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:44:33 -0400 
From: Bill Thomas <bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Baltimore: Where do I eat?


Where should I go in Baltimore for top-notch seafood? I'm hoping to
spend less than $40 for two (with maybe one drink and dessert)? Is this
even possible? I'd like to hear about good seafood restaurants
regardless of price (not in the $100 a meal category, though there can't
be many of those). Is Baltimore known for a cuisine other than seafood?
About all I know is Baltimore=crab cakes.
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From: jdiamond@netcom.com (Joan M. Diamond)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:19:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Two of my favorites in Denver:
Mataam Fez (Middle Eastern)
Delhi Dar Bar (Indian)

In Colorado Springs, there are two great natural foods places called
the Olive Branch (inexpensive to mid range while the two above are
expensive).

The Broker restaurants (there are quite a few in Denver and Boulder)
are supposed to be great.  I do know that they give you a big bowl
of peel and eat schrimp the minute you sit down.

The Biltmore in Colorado Springs has three restaurants that are supposed to
be good.  I know that friends of mine have raved about the Sunday
brunches.

I can't think of any others right now.  I didn't eat out that much when
I lived in Westminster and Colorado Springs.

Joan
From: bonny@cac.washington.edu (Bonny Sheppard {TC})
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: What's in Dublin?
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:16:18 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Keywords: 

 Travelling to Dublin........Ohio for one week of training at the AT&T
Training Center.  Could someone kindly provide a list of good vegetarian
restaurants in the area and any recreation activities.  Are there any good
Irish taverns or bars nearby :-)?
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
From: jdiamond@netcom.com (Joan M. Diamond)
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:32:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul29.131924.20434@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> bruno@cupid.enet.dec.com (Greg Bruno) writes:
>
>In article <68mm-hh.jdiamond@netcom.com>, jdiamond@netcom.com 
>(Joan M. Diamond) writes...
>
>>In Colorado Springs, there are two great natural foods places called
>>the Olive Branch 
>
>     I have to agree with you on the Olive Branch restaurants.  They have
>mastered the art of making good food in a health way.  One is located on
>the northwest corner of Academy Boulevard and Vickers, and the other is
>on the southeast corner of Tejon Street and Boulder.
>
Yes, I only lived in Colorado Springs for a year and didn't go out much, so
I forgot the streets.  I'm too busy trying to find my way around California
now.

>
>     There's no Biltmore in Colorado Springs, but you may be talking about
>the Broadmoor.  It has good restaurants (also rather expensive) such as
>Charles Court and the Penrose Room.  They are nice to visit when I want an
>excuse to dress up.  

You are right, of course.  I knew I had the wrong name.  I never got to
the Broadmoor, so I was going on faulty memory.  Thanks for catching
that.

Also, for those who care, do not confuse the Olive Branch with the
Olive Garden.  The Olive Garden is a chain of fairly cheap Italian
restaurants.  The Olive Branch is a natural foods restaurant, the only
two of which are in Colorado Springs.
>
>                                      Greg
>
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Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:17:00 GMT
Summary: chicago...

In article <1992Jul21.071351.5272@lclark.edu>, cos@lclark.edu (John Costello) writes:
>  They should probably consider putting
> a roasting operation somewhere near Chicago, to service the several billion
> Starbuck's they'll soon be opening there...if they haven't already opened
> several billion, that is. :)  

I was just visiting a friend in Chicago, and he's recently become a stock-
holder of Starbuck's, so he was pointing out all of them to me.  He was also
pointing the numbers of people in Starbuck's at all hours of the day and
night.  Several billion?  Hmmmm, maybe a couple of million!

-- 
Guy Klose
milo@mvuxi.att.com
From: lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:03:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Jul24.005014.24325@oracle.us.oracle.com> schiles@martini.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles) writes:
>I'll agree with Gregg about Starbucks.  I just moved from Portland,
>Oregon to Palo Alto, and probably miss Starbucks more than anything
>else.  They do know what they are doing and (imho) their roasters are
>among the best.  I also HIGHLY recommend their blends -- quite well done
>and quite well conceived.

There is now a Starbuck's on Union Street in San Francisco (can Palo Alto
be far behind?).  Also excellent is Spinelli's at 4 San Francisco
locations.
========================================================================

<Usual Disclaimer>        "The best is the enemy of the good" - Voltaire

Leon Traister (lmtra@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com)

c/o Amdahl Corporation            (408)737-5449
1250 E. Arques Ave.  M/S 338
P.O. Box 3470
Sunnyvale, CA  94088-3470
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:05:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


South of 6th on Federal (in Denver) there are several great
Thai/VietNamese/etc restaurantts. Js Noodles is great for Thai.
The Jungle curry will take the back of your head off.
  For Mexican, try La Taqueria Patzcuaro on 32nd (I think)
or some of the places on the 2000-2200 blocks of Larimer.
Great chile verde. For ceviche try El Chalan...
-- 
Ted....
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:14:51 GMT

In article <q7hm78_.noring@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>I'm going to be visiting the Denver/Colorado Springs area in early August and
>would like to get feedback on excellent restaurants in both of those cities.
>I define excellence based on the quality of the food, and not on the ambience.
>
>I am not interested in anything expensive or formal.  Holes-in-the-wall are
>acceptable as long as the food is outstanding.  I'm not interested in places
>that are loud or have a party-type atmosphere.  My tastes in food include
>Mexican, Italian, Thai, Chinese, Indian, some European (German, Belgian), as
>well as great steaks, great hamburgers, and other American fare.

My favorite Mexican restaurants (in order) are:

Las Brisas (New Mexican)	SE corner of I-25 & Arapahoe Rd. (off Dayton)
Rio Grande (New Mexican)	Pearl St. (Boulder)
Juanita's			E. 17th Ave. (Denver), Pearl St. Mall (Boulder)
Benny's				E. 7th Ave. (Denver)
Blue Bonnet			S. Broadway (Denver)
Las Delicias			E. 19th? Ave. (Denver) 

Since you don't like fun places :-), you might want to skip the Rio
Grande, Juanita's, and the Blue Bonnet.  Las Brisas has a great
interior, but it's casual; Benny's is probably the closest to a hole-in-
the-wall; Las Delicias is a family-run place.

Also check out El Chapultepec in LoDo Denver --it hops with local jazz
-- and La Loma, Speer Blvd. & I-25 (?).

Italian: A Capella's		Market St. (Denver)
World cuisine: Transalpin	E. 7th Ave. (Denver)
Greek: Central I		Alameda & Pennsylvania (Denver)

These places all have great food, and they're reasonably priced.
Central I and Transalpin are neighborhood restaurants, but Transalpin
and A Capella's are nicer places.

Some of the most hearty fare can be found in the local brewpubs,
especially the Wyncoop in LoDo Denver and the Walnut just off the Mall
in Boulder, but people also like to have fun there.  The Oasis (two
blocks from the Walnut) is quieter, and has a more sophisticated menu
than you might expect for a brewpub (although I guess you could say the
same for the others, too).

Burgers: (E.) 17th Avenue Grill (Denver)!

I hope that helps.  Enjoy your visit,
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
From: cos@lclark.edu (John Costello)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:13:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Jul21.071351.5272
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

Yes, it seems that the once-famous Starbuck's quality has fallen victim to 
corporate expansionism.  When the first Starbuck's opened in Portland in early
1990, the quality and service were very good, and the prices were decent.  
(The price/lb in Portland is cheaper, probably because of our proximity to
Seattle where they do the roasting.  They should probably consider putting
a roasting operation somewhere near Chicago, to service the several billion
Starbuck's they'll soon be opening there...if they haven't already opened
several billion, that is. :)  

Anyway, there are now at least 15 (if not double that) Starbuck's in the
Portland Metro area, and they're just another mediocre coffee store chain,
with mediocre service and lousy quality....  Good luck in finding a nice little
coffee operation in your area.  Avoid Starbuck's.

Cos
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: lake@cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dr. Robin Lake)
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Reply-To: lake@po.CWRU.Edu
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 15:55:44 GMT

I'm tired about the Starbuck coffee ravings.  I've not tried Starbucks, but
get to Peets now and again.  For my coffee tastes, the best-to-date is at
the Arabica chain in Cleveland (4 outlets).  They roast on the premises (well,
until the building next door burned down, taking the roast house with it  ---
so it's up the road now).  Mail order from 216-371-4414.

Addicted to it,
Rob Lake
BP Research
From: norton@ctron.com (Dave Norton)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:17:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: balrog.4582
Reply-To: norton@olympus.ctron.com (Dave Norton)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

In article <1992Jul20.183604.6099@cbnewse.cb.att.com> tjks@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Tim Kloth) writes:
>me French Roast was darker than espresso roast, then maybe I would
>give them another chance.  Maybe the problem was new sales-droids.
>I don't see anything that distinguishes them from the zillion other
>gourmet coffee stores.
>-- 
It must be the sales droids at the store you went to, if you 
go to the stores in Seattle the sales people are very
knowledgeable about their product.  Starbucks uses a 
special roasting process they call "Starbucks Roast".  I've
found that their coffee tastes like no other available coffee
in the US at least.  After moving to New England, I couldn't
find any palatable coffee, and have been getting Starbucks 
mailorder ever since.  It may $8.xx a pound, but it's worth it.

An ex-Seattleite coffe snob.
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Reply-To: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:56:53 CDT


> Right you are, Tim. But even so, their newly issued common stock has
> been rising (I think they closed at 27 or higher today). Even with
> FedEx, it's cheaper to buy from Freed, Teller, Freed in San Francisco.
> 'Tis too bad you're not in California. We have a small discount
> gourmet chain called 'Trader Joe's' which sells cans of nitrogen-flushed
> all-arabica beans from $2.99 (french roast) to $7.95 (kona). People
> have argued that the cans sit around. But at Starbucks, they sit
> behind clear plastic in bins for weeks...

If this is true, it's the biggest food scandal since Pizzeria Uno went national.
I suspect that it's not true. At every Starbucks location I've ever visited,
the coffee is kept in metal bins behind the counter out of the customer's
sight, and discarded when it gets stale (after a few days). I have probably
bought my weight in Starbucks coffee, and have never gotten it less than
fresh.

Now, at every Starbucks I've been to, they have a little display under glass
of coffee beans at the various stages of harvesting/roasting. The only thing
I've ever seen behind *plastic* at Starbucks is the biscotti and danish...

Jeff Carroll
carroll@cray.com
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
From: gil@cc.gatech.edu (Gil Neiger)
Subject: Looking for Restaurants in Pacific Northwest
Reply-To: gil@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:54:04 GMT

I am looking for information about restaurants in the Pacific Northwest,
particularly Vancouver, Seattle, and Portland.  I am interested in
restaurants that are either vegetarian or serve a good selection of
vegetarian food.  I am especially interested in ethnic (Indian, Thai,
etc.) places.  Also, particularly in Seattle, I would like to know
about good cafes and breakfast places.

					- Gil Neiger
					gil@cc.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: *****Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Originator: tchrist@pixel.convex.com
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: CONVEX Realtime Development, Colorado Springs, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:21:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Remington's at the Cheyenne Mountain Conference Resort is the
other 5-star restaurant in town (besides the previously mentioned
Broadmoor) and a little cheaper.  It's also quite good.

--tom
-- 
    Tom Christiansen      tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist


Any opinions expressed are my own, and generally unpopular with others.
From: rhb@hotsand.cnet.att.com (Richard H. Brandwein +1 908 949 2135)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re:  Raaj Mahal--GREAT Indian restaurant in NJ
Keywords: Shrewsbury, NJ, yum
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:34:47 GMT
Reply-To: rich.brandwein@att.com
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs - Holmdel, NJ
Originator: rhb@hotsand


In article <1992Jul15.211753.2117@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, myrab@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (myra.bronstein) writes:
|> I highly recommend a great Indian restaurant, the Raaj Mahal,
|> on Hwy 35 in the Market Place strip mall in Shrewsbury, NJ.
|> It's one of the best I've ever been to, the food is consistently
|> WONDERFUL, and the dining rooms are nice and comfortable.
|> 

|> 
|> I'm concerned about it's survival because it's never very busy when
|> I go, and it's location within the strip mall isn't very visible;
|> it's pretty far back, rather hidden.
|> In other words, you have to know it's there,
|> You probably wouldn't stumble accross it.
|> 
|> It was just taken over by new management a couple of months ago.
|> 
|> Spread the word.  It's excellent!
|> 
|> Myra

	You can't miss it now; it's next to an incredibly successful
new deli.   I found this Indian restaurant bizarre; the new chef specializes
in Indian *and* Italian food.  I love Indian food, but found this to
be one of the few places where I didn't like the food (Northern or
Southern Indian) or the pushiness of the owner but that's only my opinion... 

	The deli and indian restaurant are also right next to
Nutrisystem and there's a women's excercise facility/spa in 
the complex - there'll be fewer people making their weight goals...


-- 
--
	Rich Brandwein		rich.brandwein@att.com
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From: brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent J. Krawchuk)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Starbuck's - Prices are in the stars
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:06:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Spontany Institute

> Anyway, there are now at least 15 (if not double that) Starbuck's in the
> Portland Metro area, and they're just another mediocre coffee store chain,
> with mediocre service and lousy quality....  Good luck in finding a nice  
little
> coffee operation in your area.  Avoid Starbuck's.

I wholeheartedly agree. The busiest intersection in Vancouver has
a Starbucks on two of its four corners. When I moved from Calgary 
not long ago, where I often frequented coffee places 
(particularly in the Kensington area where there are several excellent
ones to choose from within a couple of blocks) someone suggested that 
I go to Starbucks when I was was feeling thirsty. After hearing this from 3  
people (!), I decided to go for it. 

After being disappointed that they didn't have any bowls,
I took one sip of an au-lait and practically puked. BLECH!!!!
I didn't bother finishing it and promptly became vegan so that
I wouldn't have to deal with finding places for a good cap anymore.
I miss staring out windows into oblivion, though.

Bj
-- 
Bj          <brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>	
            <krawchuk@cs.sfu.ca> 
Think, then act.	(NeXTMail desired)
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From: rich@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Richard Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,co.general
Subject: Re: Advice Wanted on Restaurants in Denver/Colorado Springs Area
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:16:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: advtech.1992Jul29.151656.25721
Distribution: usa
Organization: US West Information Technologies


	In article <68mm-hh.jdiamond@netcom.com> jdiamond@netcom.com (Joan
M. Diamond) writes:

|The Biltmore in Colorado Springs has three restaurants that are supposed to
|be good.  I know that friends of mine have raved about the Sunday
|brunches.

	Umm, I may be wrong (being a recent Minnesota expatriate), but isn't
that "The Broadmoor" you're talking about?

	=rich


--
Rich Scott	Adia Information Technologies, Denver, CO       rich@uswest.com
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Looking for Restaurants in Pacific Northwest
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:41:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul23.175749.20964@walter.cray.com> jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll) writes:
>
>(gil@cc.gatech.edu asked for veggies, breakfast, and cafe in the Northwest.) 
>
>gets around to Julia's 14 Carrot Cafe on Eastlake Avenue, and the sister

>Costas. University Way at NE 47th.
>	(or Italian...
>
Costas is Greek as well. The Continental next door has good simple pastry.
There are, in fact, 4 cheap Greek eateries in the vicinity of 47th NE
and the Ave (University Way) in addition to a Starbucks.
>
Let me lament the passing of Raison d'Etre which was located on Virginia
between First and Second. The most creative breakfasts north of Cafe
Beaujolais were to be found there-- the best blintzes, tomato coulis
fritate, fresh fruit compotes, etc. I miss it very much.



-- 
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                         Fax: 805.944.5958