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From:         "Suzanne P. Russell" <RUSSELS@MAIL.FIRN.EDU>
Subject:      true type/character map/text box

1.   I created a text box with double lines and had no problems
     printing using a windows printer driver.  Make sure you
     define your lines in text box options before you create your
     text box.  Also, do print preview before printing, then you
     know whether it is going to work or not!

2.   When you are trying to use a special character.....are you
     using the WordPerfect Character feature?  Click on font then
     click WordPerfect Character or Ctrl + W.  There are 13
     define keyboard layouts.  You can use user define for your
     specific character.  Is it a Dingbat??

For maximum performance you need lots of memory in the printer.
I have a HP IIID with 8 megs of memory.  I think when you get
your Panasonic printer driver you will notice a big difference in
performance.  Don't forget it also depends on what kind of
computer you have 386, 486...for speed.
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From: peterson@vulcan.mcs.anl.gov (nosreteP ekiM)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect 5.2
Reply-To: peterson@vulcan.mcs.anl.gov (nosreteP ekiM)
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:43:51 GMT

In article <BxGDxz.Eor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, comjudi@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Judi Geistlinger) writes:
>ddurby@girtab.usc.edu (Dennis Durby) writes:
>
>>In article <WPWIN-L%92110514554235@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET> writes:
>>>Does anybody know if the new WP for Windows files will be the same as WP5.1
>>>files?  Will the need WP for DOS have the same file format as 5.1 too?
>
>>In a word (or two):  YES, OF COURSE IT WILL BE BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.  HAVE YOU
>>_EVER_ SEEN A VERSION OF WP THAT _WASN'T_??????????????????
>
>Actually yes. I have 5.0 at home and when I took that floppy into the office
>that had 4.2, the office version could not read the 5.0 version. I am curious
>whether the new software will be readable by 5.1 users.
>
Actually, backward compatible means that the more current versions of
a product can still read the files of a previous version. This does NOT mean 
the WP 5.1's files can be read by WP 4.2! This DOES means that WP 5.1 can read
WP 4.2! BTW, WP 5.0 & 5.1 can save their documents as WP 4.2 docs so files
made in WP 5.1 & 5.0 CAN be read by WP 4.2 -this saves on disk space
too! :-) I've never done this much, so I don't know if you lose any formatting
codes....
Hope this helps!

Mike
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From: marylamb@carson.u.washington.edu (Mary Lamb)
Subject: Creating keyboard layout
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:27:56 GMT

I am trying to create a keyboard layout in WP4W.   There are several
Swedish letters that I want to assign to Ctrl+letter or Alt+letter key
combinations.  I'd like to use the same assignments that I have used in WP
5.1 for DOS.  The directions in the manual and the help screens seem
straightforward, and Ctrl+letter works as described.  When I try to assign
an Alt+letter combination, however, absolutely nothing happens.  The
information on the help screen implies that Alt+letter combinations should
work.  Is it my computer, or is it the program?  Has anybody had a
successful (or unsuccessful) experience assigning Alt+letter key combinations?

Mary Lamb
U of Wash
Seattle
email marylamb@u.washington.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:16:03 EST
From:         Michel Racine <michel@CSI.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      Re: WPWIN 5.2 ANNOUNCED!
              at Nov 4, 92 11:07 am

Interessant!

J'ai hate de voir des evaluations...

Merci pour l'information.

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From: tabitha@vms.huji.ac.il
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Subject: wp4win 5.2 QuickFind
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:34:17 GMT
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Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Does anybody know whether search expressions for the new feature
QuickFind in wp4win 5.2 can be stored for future use?
-dennis turner
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From:         RMALLE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Subject:      Labels

Robert Martin Allen
Ekstrom Library--DADS Department
588-6757

I am having trouble printing labels (3 1/2" x 1"--12 per page) on my Panasonic
KX-P1124i printer using WPWIN 5.1 and my windows printer driver. Could someone
please send me information on how to use true type fonts to print lables using
the windows printer driver on WPWIN 5.1? Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:06:29 CST
From:         "Nalley, Gary K." <nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect 5.2

ddurby@girtab.usc.edu (Dennis Durby) writes:

>In article <WPWIN-L%92110514554235@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> Marc Becker
<MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET> writes:
>>Does anybody know if the new WP for Windows files will be the same as WP5.1
>>files?  Will the need WP for DOS have the same file format as 5.1 too?

>In a word (or two):  YES, OF COURSE IT WILL BE BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.  HAVE YOU
>_EVER_ SEEN A VERSION OF WP THAT _WASN'T_??????????????????

Actually yes. I have 5.0 at home and when I took that floppy into the office
that had 4.2, the office version could not read the 5.0 version. I am curious
whether the new software will be readable by 5.1 users.

Judi Geistlinger
j-geistlinger@uiuc.edu

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There is a miscommunication based on the way the question was phrased.  In
WPv5.x you (under the TEXT IN/OUT function) select SAVE AS WPv4.2 format.
However, WPv5.x will automatically convert/read WPv4.2 file format.  Since
WPv4.2 does not know that WPv5.x exists, it cannot read the newer file format.

The question should be:  Is WordPerfect changing the WPv5.x file format with
WPv5.2?  If so, will they use the "current" method to address file exchage (TEXT
IN/OUT, SAVE AS) to address older versions?

Gary


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From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
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Subject: True Type fonts on a Postscript printer?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:54:33 +1100
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I tried to print a True-Type font on a new QMS 410
Postscritp printer we just got, but no luck. WP
handles the QMS fonts fine, but the True-Type fonts
don't seem to show up. When I took a file formatted
for an Epson 500 in True-Type, and sent it to the 
QMS printer, noting came out at all. (I set the printer
to QMS in Windows before sending it, and set the box
for the Windows fonts.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:46:31 -0500
From:         robertb@MATH.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect 5.2
              at Nov 9, 92 02:36:55 pm

Judi Geistlinger writes....

> Actually yes. I have 5.0 at home and when I took that floppy into the office
> that had 4.2, the office version could not read the 5.0 version. I am curious
> whether the new software will be readable by 5.1 users.

Definition:  backward compatible

Backward compatible means that more advanced versions of applications
can use files created by less advanced versions of the same application.
In this case, backward compatible means that Version 5.0 of WP will be
able to read Version 4.2 files.

Ms. Geistlinger's confusion would create a "future compatible" application,
in which the application I write now will understand file formats that
are invented, say, five years from now (!). :)

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Robert Becker, Secretary, 2-332      Dept. of Mathematics, MIT
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From:         RMALLE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Subject:      My Signature Line

Robert Martin Allen
Ekstrom Library--DADS Department
588-6757

Once again, thanks to everyone who sent me mail about creating labels.

I have received numerous pieces of mail asking me to reduce the size of my
signature at the end of my documents. I have done so. Please do not send any
more mail to me regarding this. In the future, I will send a smaller signature
in order to satisfy those of you who do not like it.

Robert Martin Allen
RMALLE01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu

-- He that hath patience can compass anything. --
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From:         RMALLE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Subject:      PCX and CGM Graphics

Robert Martin Allen
Ekstrom Library--DADS Department
588-6757

Does anyone know of a good ftp site in which to find PCX and CGM graphics to
use in WPWIN 5.1 Documents? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Robert

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From: gerland@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jim Gerland - Network Consultant)
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Subject: Re: List Renewal messages
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:05:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <9211021325.AA20976@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu>, SRSCH@CONNCOLL.BITNET writes...
>Attention all subscribers to the WPWIN-L list.  You will, or perhaps
>already have, received an automated request from the listserver asking
>you to confirm your subscription to this list.  If you fail to do this,
>you will automatically be dropped by the listserver from this list.
>Steve Schmidt
>Wpwin-L Owner

Let me try an clarify Steve's message.

The LISTSERV software has a nice feature that allows the list owner to set
up their list so that each individual gets 'reminded' that they are on the
list on a regular basis.  This list, WPWIN-L, is set to remind each person
when they have been on the list for 1 year.  If this applies to you, you
will get a nicely worded message from LISTSERV which tells you *EXACTLY*
how to renew your subscription.  This is done by sending the command:

confirm wpwin-l

back to LISTSERV when you get the message that you need to renew.  If you
haven't gotten this mailing from LISTSERV then just sit back and enjoy this
list.

These automatic renewals are sent out so that LISTSERV can remove people
who are no longer either interested in the list or who no longer exist at
their registered address.

Again, you only need to act if you receive a mailing from LISTSERV.

Jim Gerland  - Consultant, Network User Support         University at Buffalo
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:38:00 EST
From:         "Suzanne P. Russell" <RUSSELS@MAIL.FIRN.EDU>
Subject:      labels

I would suggest using the label.macro feature, but there is one
draw back, you can not use a windows printer driver.  I checked
label.macro feature there is a define label size (3.5 x 1).  But,
again you need to use WordPerfect 5.1 DOS printer driver.

I personally like using the windows printer driver because of the
True Type fonts.  So, when I have to do labels I define the size
by using columns feature (which is really stupid) or break down
and use WordPerfect 5.1 DOS printer driver and then the
label.macro feature which then is a breeze! Good luck!
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From: lewis@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Lewis Getschel)
Subject: Re: Wordperfect 5.2
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:18:39 GMT

>>>Does anybody know if the new WP for Windows files will be the same as WP5.1
>>>files?  Will the need WP for DOS have the same file format as 5.1 too?
>
>>In a word (or two):  YES, OF COURSE IT WILL BE BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.  HAVE YOU
>>_EVER_ SEEN A VERSION OF WP THAT _WASN'T_??????????????????
>
>Actually yes. I have 5.0 at home and when I took that floppy into the office
>that had 4.2, the office version could not read the 5.0 version. I am curious
>whether the new software will be readable by 5.1 users.

COME ON! be fair about this topic. WP 5.0,5.1 and 5.2 (I'm sure) will have
the SAVE AS... ability just like the previous versions do.
	In WPDOS use TEXT IN/OUT, (from memory I believe the next step is
SAVE AS or FORMAT) then choose the version you want to save the file as.
     IN WPWIN use FILE, SAVE AS, then choose the format from the list at the
bottom of the dialog window.

The original post was REALLY asking (I believe) 'will the 5.2 program use
the SAME format as 5.1' That I cannot answer, but if it doesn't, you can
still save it as a 5.1 version.
(My $0.05)

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From: charon@diana.cair.du.edu (Chuck)
Subject: Re: true type/character map/text box
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:12:59 GMT

In article <WPWIN-L%92111014292797@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> RUSSELS@MAIL.FIRN.EDU (Suzanne P. Russell) writes:
>1.   I created a text box with double lines and had no problems
>     printing using a windows printer driver.  Make sure you
>     define your lines in text box options before you create your
>     text box.  Also, do print preview before printing, then you
>     know whether it is going to work or not!

	It does show Dbl lines on the print preview.  
	It also shows underline on TT fonts like Aquiline and Felicia
	but the under line does not print.
	...And I did select Dbl line option be the box was created.

>
>2.   When you are trying to use a special character.....are you
>     using the WordPerfect Character feature?  Click on font then
>     click WordPerfect Character or Ctrl + W.  There are 13
>     define keyboard layouts.  You can use user define for your
>     specific character.  Is it a Dingbat??
>

	The Ctrl + W did work, but not for specific fonts (i.e. Barron TT)
	...yes it is a Dingbat.

Thanks for the help

charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:57:58 CST
From:         Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Wordperfect 5.2
              9 Nov 1992 14:36:55 GMT from <comjudi@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU>

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:36:55 GMT Judi Geistlinger said:
>Actually yes. I have 5.0 at home and when I took that floppy into the office
>that had 4.2, the office version could not read the 5.0 version. I am curious
>whether the new software will be readable by 5.1 users.

Actually, this is my question (sorry it was so vague--I shouldn't write posts
so late at night).  The nice thing about WP5.1 DOS vs. WPWIN is that they use
*EXACTLY* the same file format so I can switch back and forth between them.
Will WP preserve the same file format in WP5.2 and WP 6.0 as in WP5.1 DOS?
Or, in other words, will I be able to create a file here at home on my
desktop in WP5.2 or WP6.0 for windows, take it along with me on my laptop
and *not* have to worry about converting it back to a WP5.1 format so that
I can edit it away from home?  Another problem that I would encounter is
that if WP5.2 were a *different* file format, I would have to convert it
back to WP5.1 to import it into something like PageMaker.  Also, one of the
reasons I use WP is that it has become such a standard--often editors and
others request articles and manuscripts in WP5.1.  Converting between file
formats is not always seamless, and I want to avoid the hassle of going back
over a file to make sure all of the formating, etc. converted OK.  Several
years ago when I was making a transition from WordStar to WordPerfect I
worked in two different states on two different computers and I had to
constantly convert files back and forth between the two formats.  I don't
want to go back to this situation.  For me personally, this inconvenience
of different formats would be great enough that it would prevent me from
upgrading.

MARC BECKER
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
           MABECKER@UKANVM (BITNET)
           MARC@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (INTERNET)
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From: charon@diana.cair.du.edu (Chuck)
Subject: True Type/Character Map/Text box
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 02:42:04 GMT

  Hey there all!  I've got a few problems that I need some answers for.


  1)  I'm using wordperfect for windows.  I'm using the widows printer
	driver so that I will be able to use True Type fonts.  The
	problem that I keep having is that when I try to create a text
	box with double lines in ALWAYS prints it as a solid(thick) line.
	However, if i switch to the wordperfect printer driver it prints out
	like it's supposed to, but i don't get to use my True Type fonts.

  2) My second problem has to do with character mapping (in wordperfect).
	When I try to use a special character and I press <alt + 0143> I don't
	get the correct character.  However if I use the Write accessary 
	that comes with windows it works fine.

  Any suggestions on how to remedy these problems, and how to get maximum 
  preformence from my printer, would be greatly appreciated.

  BTW...I'm using the Panasonic KX-P1180 laser printer, which immulates the
  HP IIP.  I'm using the HP printer driver till Panasonic sends me the Windows
  printer driver.


Thanks

Spaz  charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:35:55 EST
From:         "(John D. Harrington)" <stump@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject:      WPWIN and Timeslices

I'm using WPWIN an a 386sx 16, not a bad machine but not
enough for WPWIN.  If anyone has any experience with the
386 Enhanced settings that control foreground and background
timeslice allocations for optimum speed would you mind
sharing your experience.

I prefer to remain in enhanced mode as
opposed to running Windows in standard mode.
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From: hhood@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (H. Hood)
Subject: Re: Labels
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:29:48 GMT

In article <WPWIN-L%92110923384487@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> RMALLE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU writes:
>Robert Martin Allen
>Ekstrom Library--DADS Department
>588-6757
>
>I am having trouble printing labels (3 1/2" x 1"--12 per page) on my Panasonic
>KX-P1124i printer using WPWIN 5.1 and my windows printer driver. Could someone
>please send me information on how to use true type fonts to print lables using
>the windows printer driver on WPWIN 5.1? Thanks in advance.
>


You have to select WPWIN printer driver to print labels. You can't use the
windows printer driver.




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From:         Henderson Hood <SUPERVISOR@RS.RIR.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      anyone using WINWP ver 5.2

Any one using Winwp 5.2, and what enhencements and new features does
it offers?

Henderson Hood
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From:         WRONSKA@PLEARN.BITNET

   How can I get an index of all articles from this list, from the
begining?
                      Kasia W. from Poland.
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