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From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: _Bicycling_ Issue Wanted
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:06:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler) writes:
>BTW, does anyone else feel that BICYCLE GUIDE has "lost it" since they've
>moved the editorial offices to Southern California.  In the latest issue,
>most of the articles are only two pages long (counting photos).  The
>"$700 Suspension Bike Shootout" is an obvious exception, but the article
>about the border cops who patrol on mountain bikes hardly warranted three
>pages.

I wasn't too impressed with this issue.  Looks like they're moving to a
simplicity is best format.  It didn't help that the picture of Gilbert
Duclose (sp?) Lasalle at the Paris-Roubaix was captioned as him being at
the World Road race championships.  Most of their reviews have mdae absolutely
no sense.  They're filling two pages with dreck.  I didn't see the point of
the Border Patrol article.  I did enjoy the article from the guy who rides
his road bike in the dirt.  Also in the suspension shootout they didn't give
much information.  Particularly about the new component groups.  Looks like
they're sucking up to advertisers.  Velo-News seems to be the only mag with
any spirit left.
-Terry
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From: oexmann@convex.com (Carla Oexmann)
Subject: Re: Night Sun Problems?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:39:23 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>    Has anyone experienced problems with the low wattage Night
>    Sun bulbs? I bought my Night Sun in November, and while I'm
>    pleased with the overall way it works, I've had very poor
>    luck with the low wattage bulbs.

I get about 50-60 hrs/bulb ( 5 bulbs worth of experience ).  The person
I spoke with at NightSun said that bulb life expectancy was somewhere 
around 100 hours.  All I can figure is that the 100 hour figure must 
apply to bulbs in a test fixture, and not jolting about on the handlebars.

Ritual disclaimer : My opinion and mine alone !  Convex, as best I can tell,
doesn't have opinions, being a corporate entity...
Carla Oexmann        {allegra, sun, harvard, uiucdcs, ctvax}!convex!oexmann
Convex Computer Corp.  3000 Waterview Parkway P.O. Box 833851 Richardson, TX
From: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Yakima racks on a Sable wagon
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:09:08 GMT
Reply-To: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <casseres-260193113839@missmolly.apple.com>, casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) writes:
|> I just *know* this has been covered thoroughly before, but it's not in the
|> FAQ and I don't remember the answers, so here goes:
|> 
|> We just bought a Mercury Sable station wagon (same as Ford Taurus) and I
|> have Yakima racks that fit on a Volvo.  I already had the "aero" towers,
|> which are needed for the Sable, and I got the clips that Yakima recommends
|> for the Sable.  I've tried mounting the racks on the Sable and they go just
|> fine.
|> 
|> So what's my problem?  Well, the mounting clips smush the rubber rain
|> gutters, and the instructions have a lot of worrisome stuff about "fine
|> tuning the placement of the clips to prevent leaks."  Is this really a
|> problem, or should I quit worrying?  If it really is a problem, what's the
|> solution?

The Thule racks on my Pathfinder do the same thing.  The only evidence of
leakage is when I wash it using the high pressure spray wash.  Regular
washing, rain, snow etc does not leak through.  Note though that the P-finder
has a seal around the gutter and around the door.  I don't know if the Sable
is the same.

|> 
|> Now, the wagon has integral roof racks.  It looks like it wouldn't be hard
|> to design a clamp that would let me mount my bike carriers on the integral
|> racks, and forget about the Yakima towers.  My wife thinks she's seen an ad
|> for such a product in the back pages of Bicycling, but I can't find it in
|> any of the issues I have lying around (no, I don't keep all my issues of
|> Bicycling and put them in binders...).  Does anyone have any info on this
|> side of the question?

It is called the Raquadapter (or something similar).  It is a clamp that
goes on some OEM racks and allows you to then use your Yakima/Thule
crossbars and accesories.  I have only seen the ads in the magazines and
have no other experience with them.  Try and find the ad.

Cheers..Stuart


|> 
|> All answers most gratefully received, and I'll summarize.
|> 
|> --
|> 
|> David Casseres
|> Exclaimer: Hey!
From: milts@mse.cse.ogi.edu (Milt Scholl)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Road Cranks with a Granny Gear
Keywords: Cranks, Granny
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:08:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.49085
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering

In article Mark Chandler writes:
>w/no apparent problems.
>
>T.A. may just have the crankset you're looking for.  Here's something I
>wrote for the upcoming issue of CROSSWORDS:
>
>Specialities T.A. - the French component maker best known for their
>Cyclo-Touriste crankset - will be offering two new triples; the Alize
>and Zephir.
(STUFF DELETED . . .)

Oh wow, a blast from the past.  The only person I know of with a TA is
me.  I have a TA cyclotourist triple that is about 10 years old.
TA used to make chain rings from 24 to about 65 in one tooth increments
(which why I bought it).  BTW I have it one my Cannondale criterium
frameset now with a 54-43-39, works great.  Anyone in the states
know where you can get new rings?

milt scholl

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,misc.forsale
From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Subject: English Handmade Chrome 24.5" Track Bike Frameset for sale
Keywords: Jack Taylor; framebuilder
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:19:25 GMT

 I have a Jack Taylor all chrome track frameset for sale w/Campi bb & headset.



 Size is 24.5" center to center.



 Includes Campi Record Pista 170mm crankset/bb w/ 47 & 52 tooth track plates.



 Also a Japanese seatpost and a few rear cogs.



 Asking $450. for above.




 I was going to assemble this but decided to stick to road bikes and running

 shoes instead.



 Paul Gatker






-- 
*******************************************************************
paul@panix.com                                    COMPULITE GRAPHICS
Brooklyn NY usa                                Design & Consultation
********************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: dick@ncs.com (Dick Anderson)
Subject: Dia Compe BRS 400s brakes - $80
Organization: National Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:29:34 GMT

I have the following for sale.

Dia Compe BRS 400s brakes.

Brand new. Still in the box.

They are silver.  Not the painted ones.

These are really decent brakes.  I used 
a similar pair for several years and I 
liked them.  This is a complete brakeset
with calipers, levers, cables and hardware.

I would like $80.  I think this is an excellent
deal.  I couldn't find the brakes in any 
catalogue, so I don't know what they retail for,
but the levers alone are $35 at Nashbar.  If
anyone knows retail price, please e-mail or
post it.





-- 

Dick Anderson
Minneapolis

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: praetzel@maxwell.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: Re: Night Sun Problems?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:26:28 GMT

In article <107940@bu.edu> mkary@math.bu.edu (Michael Kary) writes:
>
>One thing that may or may not be relevant to the problems with short
>bulb life (I don't use a Nightsun so I'm not sure): halogen bulbs have to 
>be handled with great care. You aren't supposed to let your fingers touch
>the glass; use a tissue or a clean cloth. I'm not completely sure why-

I was waiting for this.
I kept hearing about that so I took a standard halogen headlight (for a
Ford Temp) and ran it at 14V after touching it and putting some oil on it.
24 hours later it was fine as could be.  I cranked up the voltage even
more and it did not blow.  I should have left it running for a few more
days but with the over-voltage, over-dirt it should have blown.  
  Sometimes they do blow quickly but why I am not sure.  I have some 7W 
bulbs the size of a pencil erasor (ie the one on the end of a pencil) and
they are rated for 1,500 hours.  Other ones are rated upto 20,000 hours.
  As some people have pointed out.  It is usually possible to get Krypton
bulbs from hardware stores that are good replacements.
  - Eric
From: wgo@ubbpc.tredydev.Unisys.COM (Bill Oswald)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Yakima racks on a Sable wagon
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:38:54 GMT
Organization: Unisys UNIX Portation Center, Blue Bell, PA

Thule sells an adapter kit (~$30.) for Taurus/Sable station
wagons which consists of substitute rain gutters that bolt
into the channels of the built-in roof rack.


  ====================================================================
  = Bill Oswald                    |     My hovercraft               =
  = wgo@ubbpc.tredydev.Unisys.COM  |           is full of eels.      =
  ====================================================================
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Bicycle Guide (was: Bicycling_ Issue Wanted)
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:06:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

In article <KANAZAWA.93Jan27112209@miller.cs.ubc.ca> kanazawa@cs.ubc.ca (Keiji Kanazawa) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan27.165607.21010@novell.com> chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler) writes:
>
>
>   BTW, does anyone else feel that BICYCLE GUIDE has "lost it" since they've
>   moved the editorial offices to Southern California.  In the latest issue,
>   most of the articles are only two pages long (counting photos).  The
>   "$700 Suspension Bike Shootout" is an obvious exception, but the article
>   about the border cops who patrol on mountain bikes hardly warranted three
>   pages.
>
>Yes.  I'm hoping that the 1993 buyer's guide will be up to par, but
>beyond that, it doesn't seem to be worth it.
>
>By the way, does anybody know when _The Bike_ comes out?  Or has it
>started appearing already?  From my understanding, Doug Roosa, for one,
>has moved to this alleged new magazine.

Bwahaha...  (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

Most likely never.  They never got the funding to print the first issue
and it's doubtful that they ever will.  Last time I spoke to Doug, he
was considering a position with a scientific/engineering magazine.
So it's pretty unlikely that *he* has any hopes it will rise from the
ashes.  And John Olsen -- who was to be one of the higher-ups -- will
be BICYCLING's engineering editor.

I don't mean to come off too cynically, but I wrote a couple of articles
for the "second" issue of THE BIKE that never got published (not to
mention paid for).  By the time Interbike rolled around, most of the
industry types already knew about the problems.  (I found out about it
a few days before I was to fly to Anaheim to cover the show for THE BIKE.)

What's strange is that I keep running into other people who had similar
experiences with THE BIKE.

>Keiji Kanazawa
>kanazawa@cs.ubc.ca


--
Mark Chandler              Novell, Inc.         510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com     Walnut Creek, CA     AOL: Crosswords
===============================================================
   The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ladwig@nicmad.uucp (Greg Ladwig x2743)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Aluminum Touring Frame Recs
Organization: Nicolet Instrument Corp.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:58:39 GMT

In article <llr2otINNmob@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> phantast@drachen.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 20963@rbc.uucp, al@rbc.uucp (Al Davis) writes:
>>Robert Perkins writes
>>> I'm looking for a good touring frame that won't rust or
>>> break my budget.  Does anyone have any recommendations
>>> for an Aluminum or other material touring frame?  How are the
>>> Cannondale frames?  Anyone want to sell a used one?

>>road bike.  (Drop bars, higher gearing, etc.)  One overwhelming reason for  
>>this is that you can get 26" replacement tires anywhere.  This is not true  
>>of any other size.  (Yes. I know that there are two different  
>>non-interchangeable 26" sizes.  Both are available at K-mart or a small  
>>town hardware store.)
>>
>
>Ah, but you can. The 1993 Bridgestone XO-2 is a 26" touring model with 
>drop handlebars. The blurb claimed it is last year's RB-T with 26" wheels
>
What's the big deal about 26" tires? I wouldn't let that be the overriding
factor when considering which touring bike to buy. I don't know what kind
of tours Robert plans on doing but availabilty of tires at KMart or hardware
stores is not the solution. On an unsupported ride, after a blown tire, getting
into town (what do you do with your bike?) is harder than just carrying a
foldup and some boots. 
 
GL
From: TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Waveflo Saddle
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:05:36 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

The Mail House to get the Waveflo Saddle which uses "Viscous Paste" as body
padding is BIKE PRO 1-800-BIKE-PRO
           1599 Cleveland Ave.       Price: $27.99
           Santa Rosa, CA 95401
                                 Now I feel sick for buying the Flite @ $59.00

                                                  -tom
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: rodrigul@ibg.colorado.edu (Larry Rodriguez)
Subject: Cateye Micro and Vectra for sale
Organization: IBG, University of Colorado, Boulder
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:25:47 GMT


I'm selling my Cateye Vectra and Cateye Micro computers.  These are
only the computers themselves, and don't include any mounting parts,
or magnets.  They are in good shape, and I'm asking $10 for each.
This would probably be a good buy for someone who has mounts, etc, but
needs a new computer unit.  It's not such a great buy if you don't
have the mounting hardware, since the computer can often be purchased
mail-order for $24, and the mounts themselves cost around $20.

I'd like to sell only in the Denver Metro area (including Boulder
County), but will consider selling anywhere in the US.  Anyone
interested should respond via e-mail.

Larry Rodriguez
rodrigul@abacus.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ezag637@chpc.utexas.edu (Steve Manifold)
Subject: Re: _Bicycling_ Issue Wanted
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 22:54:58 GMT

Spencer Cheng writes:
> 
> Someone is sending me a copy of the article.  Thanks to all who replied.
> 
> BTW, does anyone else feel that BICYCLE GUIDE has "lost it" since they've
> moved the editorial offices to Southern California.  In the latest issue,
> most of the articles are only two pages long (counting photos).  The
> "$700 Suspension Bike Shootout" is an obvious exception, but the article
> about the border cops who patrol on mountain bikes hardly warranted three
> pages.
> 
> >Spencer Cheng     scheng@BNR.CA  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada  613-763-4046

Yes.  BG used to be the most intelligently written bike mag on the market, with
genuinely interesting and well written articles.  The art work and photography
was superb.  My favorite issue was "The Essence of Cycling Issue".  A classic.
I liked the way BG paid attention to cycling history and wasn't out to hype
the latest fad from SoCal (like that other monstrosity of a magazine).  Things 
went downhill with BG when Ted Costantino left.  There was an immediate and
noticeable drop in the quality of the magazine.  I no longer read it.  It is
too heartbreaking when one remembers its former excellence.  Words fail to 
convey the depth of my feeling...sob!
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Manifold                                              University of Texas 
ezag637@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu                           College of Engineering
tasc637@crovax.cem.utexas.edu                       Center for Electromechanics
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From: scot+@pitt.edu (Scot Catlin)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Is there a list of '93 bikes?
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:44:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi all,

	I'm not real familiar with this news group.  Does a list exist that
lists all '93 bikes, their prices, and specs?  I'm asking for a friend.  If
you can send me this list, mail me.  Thanks in advance for any help.


				Scot
				----

-- 
========================================================
| Scot Catlin				scot+@pitt.edu |
| University of Pittsburgh		scot@pittvms   |
========================================================
From: zkramer1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Zach L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: 1982 Fuji 12 speed for sale - PA only
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:52:19 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Swarthmore College

This is a posting for a friend.

She has a ten year old fuji twelve speed to sell.  Cromoly frame, center
pull brakes, good tires and rims, brazed-ons on the down tube and the seat
tube.  Simple, but very functional.  

Asking $75 o.b.o.  Please call or email (better).

Dallas Brennan (dbrenna1@cc.swarthmore.edu); 215-328-8563, but leave a
message with your number so she can get back to you
easily.
From: iyer@juju.wpd.sgi.com (Mahadevan Iyer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Univega Hyperglide
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:56:37 GMT
Reply-To: iyer@wpd.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Does anyone out there have a Univega Rover STI Hyperglide
I am planning on buying one. 
Would appreciate any input on the bike

Thanks
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: pamela@keps.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: Non-flashing (steady) Vista Lights
Organization: KEPS Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:28:23 GMT

For those who may be interested, Non-flashing (steady-on) Rear
VistaLites are available in the US. (Call VistaLite directly - see
below)

I have heard from many people who liked the rear VistaLite, but really
wanted a non-flashing version. I really liked the ease in mounting and
the long battery life offered by the VistaLite, but PBP rules required
a steady rear light, so I used the VistaLite as a suplemental light
for that ride.  In France, it seemed that the majority of riders were
using the VistaLite, many as their sole rear light, so I decided the
flashing was probably not an issue and began using the rear VistaLites
exclusively.  But I still kept a lookout for a steady light.

VistaLite does make a steady light for sale overseas, in places where
the flashing lights are illegal. A net-friend from Ireland, John
Bayley, brought one over for me this summer, when he came over to do
BMB. It went on the back of the tandem, along with a flashing one, and
we received numerous comments from crew and other riders about how
much more visible the steady light was than the the flashing model.

There have been several articles posted about how to modify the lights
so they don't flash. I realized that others, besides me, desired a
non-flashing long-lasting rear light. Both articles I saw were fairly
complex, and I hoped for an easier solution. Namely, why not convince
VistaLite that there was a demand for the steady light here in the US.

I had heard from a bike shop that they were going to start selling
these versions here, but had not seen one, so I finally just called
VistaLite. I spoke with a very nice woman, who said that they had no
plans to sell the steady lights in the US, but did agree to sell me
some directly, so I would not have to travel overseas to get a light
made here. I received my box with 4 steady rear lights today.

I asked what it would take to convince them to make these generally
available, and she said she would pass the comment on to appropriate
people. I also asked if I could tell my friends where I got the
lights.  She didn't realize I would tell so many people when she said
yes! So if you want a steady rear VistaLite, and don't have the EE
background to modify your current one, call VistaLite, and ask them to
sell you one.

They are not set up to take credit card orders, so you'll have to mail
a check, but if there really is a lot of interest, maybe they'll start
selling both versions in the US.

The number I called was 717-291-1287. (They also have an 800 - call 800
info). The address to write is:

VistaLite
2950 Old Tree Drive
Lancaster, PA 17603


(I have no connection with VistaLite)





-- 
Pamela Blalock                                    pamela@keps.com
KEPS, 164 Lexington Road                          1 down, 11 to go
Billerica, MA 01821-3984                          how many days til spring?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: Non-flashing (steady) Vista Lights
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:07:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.144417.9786@keps.kodak.com>, pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock) writes:
|> In article <C1F3M6.I5r@news.rich.bnr.ca> rob@bnr.ca (Robert Perkins) writes:
|> >As an engineer, I would expect that steady l.e.d.s would have a much
|> >_shorter_ life than flashing leds because of the electrical characteristics
|> >of the circuit.  What is the estimated life of the two AA cells?

Vista claim 300-400 hours.

|> 
|> All the labeling on the box is the same. My experience with the one I
|> already had has been very good. I haven't had to replace the batteries
|> yet. 
|> 
|> (The rep I spoke with on the phone said they they do still flash, but it's 
|> so fast that it is undetectable. It sure looks steady to me!)

I don't know if this comment has already been made but the circuit looks like
a simple multivibrator (oh-err) with a 3rd transisitor to drive the LEDs (stops
them loading the multivibrator.  The C-R circuits which drive the base of the
transistors use different values of resitors.  This allows other than a 50%
duty cycle.  That is the on period is shorter than the off period.  By changing
the value of either or both of these two resistors you can change the flash 
speed and the on/off period.

Now the L.E.D.s probably draw 10mA.  If the two AA cells have a capacity of
250mA/hours you get about 25 hours continuous use.  With a 10% duty cycle this
would be increased to 250 hours.

I'm not sure if this simple anaylysis is complete, or correct.  Maybe by
flashing the L.E.D.s imperceptibly fast they achieve a longer battery life ?

David.
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From: nobuko@shangri-la.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Nobuko (Koko) Nathan)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,ucb.wanted,ucb.market.misc,ba.market.misc,ucb.cs.msgs
Subject: Schwinn 10 speed for men for sale
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:10:16 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: ucb
NNTP-Posting-Host: shangri-la.cs.berkeley.edu

The bicycle still rides fine, but it's over 10 years old and
looks that way.  It can use a little tune up here and there. 
Asking for $20 but we will take any reasonable offer.  
If interested, please send me a mail
	nobuko@cs.berkeley.edu
or call me at (510)642-8072 (Day Time)
or call Geoff at (510)528-8058 
        				 Koko Nathan
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: M23231@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: What's it worth?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:11:48 GMT

Just wondering what a couple of used bikes are worth:
Schwinn VARSITY 10 speed 1968 model
Jamis DAKOTA MTB, 15 speeds shimano derailleur/crank set circa 1985 vintage
 
Thanks,
 
Jerry L.
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