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From: tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Tony Cox - (415)926-3105)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Freedom, Social Responsibility, etc. etc.
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:10:17 -0800
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab
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In article <BzzD1I.2pn@SSD.intel.com>, pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit) writes:
> In article <1992Dec23.153139.1@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu> tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Tony Cox - (415)926-3105) writes:
>>   Firstly, wearing a skid-lid may reduce your chance of being killed
>>   when you fall on your head, but it also _increases_ the chances of
>>   neck injury. You aren't violating the law of energy conservation by
>>   wearing your crashhat - the energy which would have gone into
>>   cracking your skull now goes into compressing your spinal column.
> 
> Not entirely true.  The energy which would have gone into cracking
> your skull now goes into cracking the helmet.  You're not supposed to
> wear a helmet that has sustained an impact, because it is DESIGNED to
> absorb energy and be damaged by an impact.

   Ok, Ok, you are right. Momentum is what is actually invariant. In
   terms of energy, you have the additional energy of the speeding
   helmet, less that actually absorbed by the helmet in the crash.
   You did, however, remove my last line from the section. Does anyone
   know of any figures which point to different types of injuries when
   and whennot enhatted? The CA bikers assert that wearing helmets
   increases the chances of spinal damage, but I am unaware of any
   scientific analysis of this claim. To me, it seems quite probable.

> 
>>   Secondly, anyone who has ever ridden a motor cycle will tell you
>>   that a helmet reduces both your vision and your ability to
>>   determine the source of a noise. Try this simple test. Stand in a
>>   parking lot with your eyes shut and get a friend to toot her horn.
>>   You should be able to point to her car very accurately. Now try it
>>   when wearing a helmet. See?
> 
> Not true.  A well-designed, approved helmet does not obscure your
> ability to see, unless you can normally see 180 degrees horizontally
> and vertically without moving your head.  I've tried the test you
> suggest, and am unable to agree with you.
> -- 

   My helmet is approved, and obscures the hearing just as I have
   indicated. As for vision, one frequently needs to move ones head to
   see what is going on around you. _Much_ more difficult with a hat
   on. Do you ride? I do, and for the most part, I do it with a helmet
   on. But this is my choice, factoring in my riding style and traffic
   density on the routes I travel. Were I to prefer city driving, I would
   think my best interests were served by keeping out of accidents
   altogether - and for that I would prefer to be hatless.

Tony Cox, Stanford, CA
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: tyadav@athena.mit.edu (T.Y.)
Subject: Re: individualism
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:21:38 GMT

=====================================================
>eng10276@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAM CHUAN YAP) writes:
>
>
>|Humans today are simply too selfish and individualistic that they forgot
>|about the welfare of the [people around them.
>

 marwes@scorch.apana.org.au (Marcus Westbury) enquires:
>	What is the definition of individualism for the purpose of 
> discussion here? 

 Furthermore:
   
 - what is the definition of selfishness here?
 - what is that you call "people?" Isn't that collection of individuals? 
 - what is that you call "welfare of the people?"

 All I see/know is that the most individualistic/selfish humans are the most
 productive humans. Their cause is determine by values within themselves.
 The effect of their effort is happiness/wealth that reaches far beyond
 themselves - perhaps, because of the nature of human existence: we live 
 together, in so called society.

T.Y.
----
tyadav@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: marwes@scorch.apana.org.au (Marcus Westbury)
Subject: Re: individualism
Organization: Craggenmoore public Unix system , Newcastle , Oz
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:14:12 GMT

eng10276@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAM CHUAN YAP) writes:


|Humans today are simply too selfish and individualistic that they forgot
|about the welfare of the [people around them.

	What is the definition of individualism for the purpose of discussion here?  as i understand it, selfishness and individualism are two very different things.


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Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: individualism
From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 22:14:10 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

marwes@scorch.apana.org.au (Marcus Westbury) writes:

> eng10276@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAM CHUAN YAP) writes:
> 
> 
> |Humans today are simply too selfish and individualistic that they forgot
> |about the welfare of the [people around them.
> 
> 	What is the definition of individualism for the purpose of discussion here? 
> 
> 
> -- 
> /\\/

And indeed it should be and I am tired of those who try to converge them 
to suit their own sick and twisted purposes.

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From: bs508@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John D Plumitis)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: individualism
Date: 29 Dec 1992 04:26:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The very essence of individualism is not the forgeting of others.
In fact, it is perhaps the best form of thinking that truly offers
an accountable process of accepting each individual on their own 
personal merits, rather than judging them according to the "group"
of which they belong.  This is why affirmative action will never 
truly work.  I would invite you to take a second look at this line
of thinking.
From: goater@fraser.sfu.ca (Rosemary Lyn Goater)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Freedom, Social Responsibility, etc. etc.
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:57:37 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

Regarding the question about whether a helmet causes injury in an accident
or not...

I don't know if it actually _causes_ injuries, but it could be the case that
wearing a helmet makes you more of a burden on the health care system.  If you
think about it, if you're in a serious accident, you'll likely have injuries
to parts of your body other than the head (broken collarbone, wrists, ribs,
internal damage, etc.)  If you don't wear a helmet, this kind of injury will
quite likely kill you since a small impact to the head can do this.  If you
_do_ wear a helmet, you're chances of survival are greater since the delicate
head is protected, but you're still left with all the other injuries to be
treated.  We don't treat those if you're dead, right?  

I know, maybe kind of silly, but statistically this may be correct.
From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Anarchy in Somalia
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:16:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <1hofpnINN1gf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bz269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Del Vecchio) writes:
|> 
|> 	Gang rule & warring pseudo-governments.  Sounds like Somalia
|> and sounds like anarchy.  

Gang rule??  Warring pseudo-governments??

Sounds like LA.  Or Detroit.  Or Miami,  Or Chicago.

Sounds like good ole' American Democracy.

bill

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     Bill Gunshannon          |        If this statement wasn't here,
     bill@cs.uofs.edu         |  This space would be left intentionally blank
                              |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>
From: jfh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (James F. Hranicky)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Freedom, Social Responsibility, Indivi
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:35:53 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


In article <1ha972INNrn@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> kris@bsg8.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 38013@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu, jfh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (James F. Hranicky) writes:

>> How come driving a car is a privilege? I don't believe it was before
>> the 30's.
>
>Can you enlighten me? Was there no license required before the 30's.

I'll have to get back to you on this; I heard this from a co-worker.

>I was trying to point out the difference between a right and a privilege.

But what is the difference, according to you?

>For example many people believe health care is a right. To my
>understanding of natural and constitutional law health care is not a
>right. It may be a privilege that the middle and upper-class may choose
>to bestow to the lower, but in no way is it a right. 

IMO, one has a right to live his life by his own judgement, free to 
earn and spend as much of his money as possible, so I don't agree with
forcing taxpayers to pay for a national health plan.

>> 
>> Why doesn't a person have the right to drive his car if he does
>> so peacefully?
>
>Please expand on this as well.

I mean, why is driving a car a privilege? How do you define a "right"?
I define a right as an action which does not initiate force against another
individual, so driving a car in and of itself does not constitute a
violation of anyone else's rights. Driving a car stone drunk on the wrong 
side of the road is a different story, however.

Jim Hranicky (jfh@reef.cis.ufl.edu)
From: kris@bsg8.Corp.Sun.COM (Kris Skrinak)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Freedom, Social Responsibility, Indivi
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:55:45 GMT
Reply-To: kris@bsg8.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bsg8.corp.sun.com

In article 38013@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu, jfh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (James F. Hranicky) writes:
> In article <liqi9qINNra@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> kris@bsg8.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
> >Is bicycle riding a privilege?
> [del]
> >Driving a car is a privilege.
> >
> >Driving a bicycle is a right.
> 
> >Kris Skrinak
> 
> How come driving a car is a privilege? I don't believe it was before
> the 30's.

Can you enlighten me? Was there no license required before the 30's.

I was trying to point out the difference between a right and a privilege.

For example many people believe health care is a right. To my
understanding of natural and constitutional law health care is not a
right. It may be a privilege that the middle and upper-class may choose
to bestow to the lower, but in no way is it a right. 

> 
> Why doesn't a person have the right to drive his car if he does
> so peacefully?

Please expand on this as well.
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit)
Subject: Re: Freedom, Social Responsibility, etc. etc.
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:39:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.153139.1@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu> tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Tony Cox - (415)926-3105) writes:
>   Firstly, wearing a skid-lid may reduce your chance of being killed
>   when you fall on your head, but it also _increases_ the chances of
>   neck injury. You aren't violating the law of energy conservation by
>   wearing your crashhat - the energy which would have gone into
>   cracking your skull now goes into compressing your spinal column.

Not entirely true.  The energy which would have gone into cracking
your skull now goes into cracking the helmet.  You're not supposed to
wear a helmet that has sustained an impact, because it is DESIGNED to
absorb energy and be damaged by an impact.

>   Secondly, anyone who has ever ridden a motor cycle will tell you
>   that a helmet reduces both your vision and your ability to
>   determine the source of a noise. Try this simple test. Stand in a
>   parking lot with your eyes shut and get a friend to toot her horn.
>   You should be able to point to her car very accurately. Now try it
>   when wearing a helmet. See?

Not true.  A well-designed, approved helmet does not obscure your
ability to see, unless you can normally see 180 degrees horizontally
and vertically without moving your head.  I've tried the test you
suggest, and am unable to agree with you.
-- 
Milind S. Pandit			|
Operating Systems Engineer		| pandit@ssd.intel.com
Intel Supercomputer Systems Division	|
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: stans@cwis.unomaha.edu (Robert Stansbury)
Subject: Omaha player looking for band.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:17:47 GMT

    My name is Rob Stansbury.  I am looking for anyone in the Omaha area
who would like to jam.  I haven't played in a band for about 2.5 years
(thought it might be nice to graduate form college some time this
century), but now that the big day has arrived, my reward is to play
again.  I'm no Hendrix, but I can hang with most of the stuff on the
radio.  I have a Charvel 3DR, a Gretsch model and year unknown, and a
Fender Princeton Chorus.  My musical tastes are pretty broad - anything
but major major headbanger stuff.  Send me mail or post a follow up.

                                    Stansbury, Robert V.
                                    stans@cwis.unomaha.edu
 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: SRV & Strings
Summary: SRV amps
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:07:42 GMT

In article <7179@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, ms184@castor.geog.ucsb.edu (Mark Timothy Schmidt) writes:
> In article <85116@ut-emx.uucp> paul@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu (Paul Grotevant) writes:
> >Well, I can't remember what exactly SRV did to solve the tremolo problem,  
> >but when you're using a stock strat tremolo (as he did), you could just  
> >throw one or two more springs in the back and tighten them down.
> 
> That's what he did.  He used 5 springs in back instead of 3.
> 
> >One interesting problem that he did have because of his use of heavy  
> >strings and his powerful playing style was that he had to play through  
> >bass amps, as he had a tendency to blow out regular guitar amps! Wacky,  
> >wild stuff.
> 
> This isn't true.  He primarily used Fender Super Reverbs and Vibroverbs,
> plus Marshalls and Howard Dumbles.  The Fenders were guitar amps and
> the Dumble's are generally for steel guitar.
> 
> 
	Better go with Mark on this one Paul. SRV used Fender Vibroverbs
	with 1 15" JBL for his distorted sound. He used a 100 watt marshal
	that only produced 80 watts for his clean sound. He also at times
	used Super Reverbs. He used a SuperReverb on Bowies "Lets Dance"
	it was a rented amp. This information is from a interview conducted
	with SRV.

	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!



Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: Collectors please?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:35:49 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

I am interested in finding out the value of an early 70's VOX 12 string acoustic/electric guitar.  Also, is it a collectors item?

Any info is appreciated.

John


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: hjel@ellis.uchicago.edu (Death-PartyCentral)
Subject: Re: aging strings - boiling
Reply-To: hjel@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:29:24 GMT

In article <63134@mimsy.umd.edu> lhcompt@cs.umd.edu (Lawrence H. Compton) writes:
>>>>Q: Strings age and need to be replaced. Ist there a way to squeeze more life
>>>>   out of them ? It seems such a waste to throw them away.
>
>Diluted window cleaner seems to work OK!! Somebody mentioned that EVH
>boils his strings. I've also heard that John McLaughlin does the same
>(but with nylon classical guitar strings). Overall cleanliness is your
>best bet. Wash your hands before playing. Wash/wipe your strings after
>playing. Also, keep your fingerboard and frets clean. Strings get dirty
>on the bottom too. Boiling strings seems perverse, but if you do it,
>let everyone know if it works!!!
>
>							Larry Compton
>
>PS: Strings can be recycled!

	i've heard of boiling strings but not for cleaning.  some people
boil strings BEFORE putting them on to shorten the period that it takes for
them to stretch and adjust to the tension.  personally i don't do it, but
it seems like it possibly could be worth-while.
					-jh

-- 
hjel@ellis.uchicago.edu        aka  Death Cmeptb jefe jefito
"...just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you...."
Disclaimer: the devil made me do it.               -Nirvana
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jmmcinty@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M McIntyre)
Subject: Dean
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:50:26 GMT

 Does anyone have information on Dean guitars, I think they went out of 
business years ago, but I've heard that Heartfield or Heartland (another guitar
company has bought them out and is making them again. I am particularly 
interested in the Dean that is part Flying V and part Explorer, preferred by
Pantera's Dimebag Darrell. If it is available I would like to know what 
materials are used, price, availability.

                         Thanks,
                             J. McIntyre
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tuesday, 29 Dec 1992 13:33:32 PST
From: <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: gibson necks

In article <1992Dec29.201540.6855@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
dab@donner.cc.bellcore.com (ballard,david a) says:
>
>Hey now-  A friend of mine has a Les Paul copy and wants to get a Gibson
>neck to put on it.  I was thinkin' about getting him one for his
>birthday, where's a good place to start looking?

The phone book.  For a good luthier.  Gibson necks are glued on (except on
the Marauder, no longer in production).  Replacing a neck on a Gibson-style
electric is one of the more difficult jobs in the guitar repair business.

If your friend wants a Gibson neck have him buy a Gibson guitar.  You could
put in any pennies you were intending to spend on a new neck (usually $100-200)
and help him defray some of the cost.

>thanks
>dab

You're welcome.

Brian
From: charles.baril@synapse.org (Charles Baril) 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: ADD
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:01:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: charles.baril@synapse.org (Charles Baril) 

                                                                                                                                
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From: gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: PRE-BS & More 4-Sale
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:06:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <Dec22.154117.23016@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> gw214790@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts) writes:
>Pre CBS Fender Showman Head:
>	Brown Front & Back Plates
>	100 Watts!
>	Ser No. Less Than 1000
>	Sounds Great!
>	$175/obo UPS COD
>Sunn Sentura I Head:
>	Reverb
>	50 watts by 2x EL34
>	$100/obo UPS COD
>	I also have a 1- 15" Sunn Cabinet, cannot ship, 
>	If you come'n'get it, I'll throw in the cab.
>Gretch Tube Reverb
TUBE REVERB SOLD!
>
>e-mail or call 303-224-2946 8:00-4:00 Mountain for the finer points.
>Galen Watts, KF0YJ
>
>
From: rosen@kranz.enet.dec.com (Jim Rosenkranz)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Acoustic Guitar for Sale
Keywords: guitar
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:22:40 GMT
Reply-To: rosen@kranz.enet.dec.com (Jim Rosenkranz)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.

1987 Alvarez Yairi DY39  65th Aniversary acoustic Guitar   $325 + shipping

This model is very much like a D-38 if you are familiar with their product
line. It has a sort of dreadnaught shape but not as large as a dreadnaught.
It has a metal aniversary tag on the back of the headstock denoting the
special edition.  It has I believe a rosewood fingerboard and
a scrolled inlay at the 12th fret.  There are dot inlays everywhere else. 

The neck is reasonably narrow, slightly on the round side and has good action.
The top is solid spruce. I'm not sure what kind of wood the back and sides
are, I think mahogany. The wood has a distinctive grain to it. It is not dark 
like a rosewood but not light like a maple. It is somewhere in between. 
I think they used a special wood for the D-39 and this may differ from the 
D-38. It has a two piece back. It has white binding with some nice black 
pinstriping with a similar treatment around the sound hole. Black pickguard.
Neck has adjustable truss rod.

This guitar is in *like-new* condition. Not a mark or scratch on it.

The tone of the guitar is quite bright. Nice sound for flatpicking. 
It is resonant enough for a sweet finger-style guitar as well. 

Also included is a black hard shell case (plush lined) also in mint condition.


Jim Rosenkranz    (404) 772-2218	rosen@kranz.enet.dec.com
Atlanta area


--
Jim Rosenkranz	rosen@kranz.enet.dec.com

"Never try to teach a pig to sing: it can't be done, and it annoys the pig."
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: tom@cpac.washington.edu (Tom May)
Subject: Re: Tube swapping/amp question
Organization: Center for Process Analytical Chemistry, UW
	<1992Dec21.162618.24450@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:48:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.162618.24450@cbfsb.cb.att.com> kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew) writes:

	   In the Carvin Im not sure, but in Marshall and Fender amps you could
	   always remove the 2 outside power tubes to reduce the power by 50%.
	   But you had better change the Impedence selector to compensate.

So, I'm running with four tubes into a 16-ohm load, with the impedance
selector set to 16 ohms.  If the plate current of each tube is I and
the 16-ohm speaker load as seen through the output transformer is R,
the voltage dropped across the transformer primary is 2IR (since there
are two tubes in parallel providing a total current of 2I).  If I remove
the outside tubes without changing the impedance selector, the voltage
across the primary would be just IR, which is probably a bad thing.
In order to maintain the V=2IR relationship beteen plate current and
voltage to keep the tubes happy, I have to twiddle the impedance
selector to make R look twice as large (V=I*2R), which I can do by
setting the selector to 8 ohms.  Right?
--
Tom, tube hacker in the making
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: stans@cwis.unomaha.edu (Robert Stansbury)
Subject: Re: aging strings - is there a way to recycle
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 05:55:47 GMT

jtblair@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John Blair) writes:

>In article <uh311ae.724717039@sunmanager> uh311ae@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Henrik Klagges) writes:
>>Q: Strings age and need to be replaced. Ist there a way to squeeze more life
>>   out of them ? It seems such a waste to throw them away.
>>
>>Q: Do thinner strings age quicker than thicker ones ? It would be plausible
>>   given the higher tension.
>>
>>Cheers, Henrik
>>

>If you wash your hands before you play and clean your stings afterwards, yours
>strings last longers.  Dan Erlewin also has recommends using a "Blitz" cloth,
>which is a cloth impregnated with hopefully harmless brass cleaner.  You wipe
>it again afterwards.  (I'm trying it for the first time.  It certainly takes
>the tarnish off the strings, but it's also a bit of a mess, particularly
>when the cloth is fresh.

>john

This is my first posting on any group, hope it works out ok.  I read an
article in a "Guitar: For the practicing musician"  that said Eddie Van
Halen boils his strings to keep them clean.  Somewhat off the wall, but
what do you have to lose.  The article appeared a couple years back, but
if you are interested, I can try to find it.  I seem to have collected
many of those mags over the years.  

                        Robert V. Stansbury
                        stans@cwis.unomaha.edu

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