Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:34:05 EST
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Is there an interpreter in the house?
 <1993Jan22.001744.16790@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
 <93022.113840RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
 <1993Jan22.181058.29215@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>

In article <1993Jan22.181058.29215@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) says:
>
>In article <93022.113840RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
>Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>
>>Take it ez Aref jAn. Ala only expressed his own opinion. Weren't you the one
>>who once said "express yourself".
>
>The originator was sarkAreh khAnoomeh MadonnA. I just echoed her words.
>So he expressed his opinion and so did you and so did I. What are
>you saying?
>

    Read on my dear friend. Read on. I wouldn't be so quick to judge.

>
>>In his second posting, Ala brought in
>>another, more general, issue all together. That is an issue we can sink
>>our teeth into. For the record, I am not for what has has mentioned
>>regarding non-Iranians dating Iranians. Matters of heart do not know
>>physical boundries. I light of the second issue he mentions, I think he
>>sees no objection in non-Iranians marrying Iranians. It's the process that
>>he is objecting to. And that my dear Aref, is very much cultural. It's
>>not uneducated, hickish, or whatever else you tried to label it. It's
>>only a man's opinion of his culture.
>>
>>RezA
>
>
>This seems pretty cut and clear to me:
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>>>>I do think that IRANI girls ARE too good for Americans.
>>>>But again I am talking about IRANI and not so called Persian-Americans.
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>

   Aref jAn. That is his opinion and thus what I wrote about "expressing
   yourself". You did more than that. Much more. You labled people as ....


>And I am not concerned about his opinion of dating vs. marriage
>or the "process" as you put it.
>
>The "so and so is too good for so and so" part is the topic I am
>addressing. Funny I should be arguing about this with someone who is
>totally disappointed in Iranians. Chalk it up to your negative tally.
>
>Aref (not disappointed in anyone :-)
>
>
  "kAm lotfee mefarmaeed". If you read any of what I wrote, you would not
   be saying that. My disappointment came from the fact that we have simply
   given in, culturally speaking. Ala, on the other hand, seems to be
   aware of his culture. One more time, I would be the last person who
   would condemn interacial dating/marriage. Heck, in this day and age
   when understanding and love is so scarce, I am all for any kind of
   relationship that is based on caring and love and all that jazz.
   That includes gays, lesbians, straights. Interacial dating is the
   tip of the iceberg. But you don't see me jumping on Ala's throat
   and calling him names. His opinions are just as important as your or
   mine are. It's the lableing that I object to the most. You may have
   rephrased your words and I would have shut up.
RezA