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From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Subject: Re: Future of China........
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:17:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.135613.23315@tamsun.tamu.edu> x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.130912.27284@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu) writes:
>>
>>	From a special TIME magazine issue on the future of the world that
>>	I received, some Americans think differently (though no obvious
>>	reason was given). And I tend to agree with that. IMO, Chinese seems
>>	...
>Time has ALWAYS be negative toward China. Like saying China has only 60
>swimming pools. Several other financial magazines have presented a totally
>...

	Look like you prefer to read/hear opinions that show favorable bias
	to you and discredit those that are not solely on this bias. Fine,
	you just became another evidence to support my argument (not TIME's)
	why Chinese may have a problem to be a great nation in the next century.

	It is also interesting that you mentioned "financial" magazines.
	If a wealthy nation would be a great nation, look no futher than
	those oil-rich nations.

Yung-Kao Hsu
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Well...let all the member in SCHK talk in a new way....
Date: 5 Oct 1992 04:54:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <92278.002726LWLLG@CUNYVM.BITNET> <LWLLG@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>For this reason, why don't
>we start communicating in a real time chat mode? Will this make our "conference
>" more interesting and interactive? If you guy has already been using IRC (
>Internet Relay Chat), would you like to invite other people (especially SCHKers
>) into the same channel and talk together?
What? And not allow our witty and insightful (note the sarcasm?  well, put it
on lightly) comments be posted so the whole world (I realized it's almost the
whole world by now...well, a few countries throughout the world anyway) could
read and laugh/smirk/wince?
Well, perhaps, but though I semi-regret posting (could be dangerous if people
you talk about don't really really appreciate being talked about throughout
the netted world, etc, etc) I'm just triple editing (and re-editing) and 
putting more disclaimers. :-P
Talk is definitely interesting on IRC (don't use it personally) if people get
the time zone thing figured out.
Otherwise, go for it, but keep the posting...(my grade needs another big
obstacle...first MUDs now RN)

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From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: what is  SCHK ??
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:15:23 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Sep30.150625.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> one writes:
>
>
>What is  SCHK  ?????
>
>
>                                Cal. Poly Pomona 

  SCHK is Soc.Culture.HongKong, the newsgroup you are reading.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: Three Lonely Hearts Club
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:00:34 GMT

bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct2.155156.22176@dsg.tandem.com> leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung) wportun
|> >No, freedom should not be our (OK, I speak for myself only, so it is my)
|> >primary concern. My primary concern is technology. The TLHC idea is fine,
|> >and Edwin's contribution is his proposal of "a network version," which
|> >is technically feasible. But it should be more far-sighted. With the
|> >nascent virtual reality (VR) technology on the horizon, I think we need
|> >to approach the TLHC with this in mind, i.e., a network based TLHC that
|> >is capable of delivering VIRTUAL LOVE!
|> 			     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> Wouldn't it be better if we go for the real thing?  (less traumatic because
|> it's real, not fake)  :-P

First, would the real thing be better? That depends. But let's not put
ourselves into this either/or mode of mentality. Instead, you should ask:
won't it be more exciting if we have both, especially if one may spend
considerable time in the VR in one's life? Second, "less traumatic because
it's real"? Are you kidding? Haven't we just read all those desperate/ 
heartbreaking postings from crazy boys, lonely hearts, etc.?

Steven
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu)
Subject: Re: C program.
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date:  2 Oct 92 21:53:07 GMT

thomas@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Thomas Fung) writes:

>In <1992Sep30.203552.2789@nic.csu.net> johnny@futon.SFSU.EDU writes:

>>As I said, this program does not work and you are taking your own
>>risk to run i Please refer to the earlier posting for more
>>information.

>>#include <sys/types.h>
>>#include <sys/file.h>
>>#include <sys/uio.h>
>>#include <stdio.h>
>>main()
>>{ int fd;
>>  fd_set writefds;
>>  int i=1;
>>  while (1) {
>>  fd=open("~/.pipe",O_WRONLY);
>   ^
>   should it be:

>   fd=open("~/.plan",O_WRONLY);           

>   ?????

>>  if (fd!=1) if (dup2(fd,1)== (-1)) fprintf(stderr,"Error on dup\n");
>>    printf("\nHello! You are the %dth person to finger me on ",i);
>>    fflush(stdout);
>>    system("hostname");
>>    printf("The current date is ");
>>    fflush(stdout);
>>    system("date");
>>    system("(ps -agux; netstat) | grep finger | mail @sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu");
>>    printf("*****************************************************\n");
>>    fflush(stdout);
>>    i++;
>>  close(fd);close(1);sleep(3);
>>  }
>>}

  First of all this program works on most of the site except
DECstation or VAX running Ultrix. The reason is, finger program on
these two system ignore non-regular  file. So if you want to know if
this program will work, try the following:

%mknod .plan p
%echo "Hi, how are you " >> .plan
%finger `whoami`

If you cannot find "Hi, how are you", that means this program won't
work on your system. Otherwise, get this program compile and run in
background.

  The whole idea of this program is to use named pipe (FIFO) to do
interprocess communication. However, for those non-cs-major or guys
who have not learn Operating System yet, you don't have to know this.

  steve
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: GPA (Re: Ph.D. in Hong Kong and U.S.)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:09:32 GMT

In article <23018@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>In article <6130123@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>Sorry, Can someone in States tell me what is GPA?
>
>  In the states, (or CU in HK), each course has a credit-hour. Normally
>  each course has a credit-hour of 3, which means you have to attend
>  3 hours of class for that course. At the end of semester, you will
>  receive your grades of each course in A to E.
>  
>  Convert the letter grade A, B, C, D, E into number grade 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 
>  respectively.
>
>  Multiply every course's number grade with its credit-hour, and add
>  them together. Divide it by the total sum of credit-hour. You will get
>  the GPA. For A = 4, the maximum of GPA can be 4.0.
>

	How about A+,A-...etc.... and how would an A be represented
by percentage... 90% - 100% ?

	and in general, how high an aggregrated GPA does one needs to have
in order to be called an honour student during graduation?

	At U. of Toronto, Engineering..... one needs to stay on the
Dean's list for not less than 4 semesters excluding 1st yr 
(i.e. 4 out of 6) plus
you must have an overall A average on the final two semesters. 
[Our undergrad programm is fixed; so you (almost) have to take 
the same courses every semester with everyone else except in the final yr.]

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Subject: !!!Another psychological question!!!
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:30:09 GMT

Assuming you are stepping at the edge of a verrrrrrrrry tall cliff,
the bottom is ??? hmm....you haven't seen it or you are not brave enuf
to see it....
okay, now ask u, what is your immediate feeling at that moment and
what is your immediate action?
Remember, the answer is open to your imagination, not much restriction
here.
There is a mystery inside, which i will disclose later. :9
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: Future of China........
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:07:31 GMT

In article <1ad0pfINNi2q@agate.berkeley.edu> tung@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel Ka Shun Tung)
writes:
>From what I perceived here in the US, I guess in the next century, it
>will be the world of China (including HK and Taiwan).
>
>Try to think about it, for Japan, it just took 40 years
>to develop into a country that rivals the US both technologically and
>economically. I guess none of us here will think us Chinese are less 
>intelligent than Japanese and so I think the most pausible reason for China

Japan becomes a great power today primarily because of the US-Soviet
conflict, and it is no coincident that once the cold war ends, Japan's
economy is in a downward trend. The intelligence (hard to qualify/quantify)
of a country's people is one factor that determining the strength of
that country, but I'm skeptical whether it is the determining factor.

>The CCP is now desparately seeking a way to maintain its power in China

This is true, but you can say the same thing to all political parties in
the world.

>and it thinks the only way out is to turn to capitalism. The CCP is

CCP thinks "the only way out is to turn to capitalism"? Not sure about this.

>right in that capitalism works better than communism but changing the
>system in China is not gonna help maintain the power of CCP for long. It
>can just help to make it a little bit longer. As the Chinese people
>have more and more contact with foreigners, they will soon know that the
>only way to liberate the power of China is to kill CCP once and for all!

>The demise of CCP, I guess will occur in less than 10 years and after that
>China will certainly become a superpower in the world. ...

Well, I think this is a very simplistic view. After 6.4, some people predicted
CCP's demise in 4/5 years time frame. Be more realistic. I think we should
think more about if CCP continues to exist ... well, that is not necessarily
a bad thing. Ever heard of peaceful revolution?

Steven
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:11462 soc.culture.taiwan:13985 soc.culture.china:26487
From: rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: **HOT ACTRESS/SINGER RESULTS**
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:45:17 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Wait a minute, is Kun Li the same as Gong Li?

Although I was "excluded" from this poll, I am kind of glad that 22 votes
go to Cherie Chung.  As I said before, I really like her not because she's
pretty, but because she's sweet.  I still remember the year when she entered
the Pageant: she gave me an innocent, sweet impression.  I guess I fell in 
love that year.  :-)  

Ray
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wklau@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Wallace K. LAU)
Subject: Re: Chinese wife is good? (Was: Why? Why? Now I'm going to tell you why.)
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 07:10:19 GMT

In article <6130125@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>
>>soc.culture.hongkong / wchau@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Wun-Chun Chau) /  4:45 am  Sep 29, 1992 /
>
>>Thanx, but I have to admit that I failed. She said she has had a boyfriend
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
          Before you give up, I think you make sure she really has a boy
          firend or not.
          Gals like to use this excuse to make boys feel better.
          I used to have this experience.
          After that, most of my friend(male) blamed me why I believed that
          excuse.

>>already, and that doesn't want to go through the trouble to break up with him...
>>well, at least that excuse wouldn't hurt that much... :(
>
>>Wish me better luck next time.
>
>That's the trouble of HK boys like us. In University, or all other chinese
>societies, most of us are kept us away from those girls having boyfriend 
>(including me). Whenever that girl changed boyfriend, we blamed ourselves,
>"Why didn't I Hui Ma in the right time?". If happened all the time.
>
>Come on, Hui Ma.
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Drew)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Grad Admissions Office of CUHK
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:10:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

CU folks,

I'd like to know the address of Grad Admissions Office of CUHK.  If you guys
can give me more information on stuff like deadlines and requirements, that
would be great.

Thank you.


Andrew 
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From: b130778@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (MA NGAI LING)
Subject: Re: Ph.D. in Hong Kong and U.S. (Re: They got no brain...)
Organization: The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:20:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.042255.29721@uxmail.ust.hk> cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk (YaN HO LEunG) writes:
>In article <6130118@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>>soc.culture.hongkong / jhmcho+@pitt.edu (Jack Cho) /  5:28 am  Sep 25, 1992 /
>>
>>
>>> undergraduate here.  His professors thus made such a comment like this, 
>>> if those HKU honors students came here, they wouldn't know if they
>>> could teach them.  My friend then made a joke on them and said that's
>>> why there are so many foreign smart students in such big name schools
>>> like MIT, U of Chicago, UC Berkeley...  Why?  Because only Nobel Laureates
>>> can teach them.  8-)
>>
>>Most of those honours students left University day after their finished and
>>try to get as much money as possible. Why should they spend another few years
>>as low paid cheap labourer in University (mind you, the sponership in HK is
>>very low). I just can't make it out how can those people paying fee for a
>>Ph.D.
>
>As far as I know, $9,000.00 HK dollars/month for T.A.
>(subject to change without notice.)
>
>Clement.
>
>
>

	On a list I saw last week in CU, TA is getting $17000HK/month.  I
know someone who is doing Masters this year, his stipend is almost $9000.    

Ida
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HK Police's pistol
From: raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man)
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:14:14 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Originator: raymond@jupiter

A poster on rec.guns claimed that some Hong Kong citizens said that
the Royal Hong Kong Police has adopted the Glock 17. I wish to
know if they are on the net and could they tell us more about the
specs of the gun, or if anyone knows anything.

While the Glock is very nice and popular with many law enforcement
agencies, I am not sure giving 9mm power to the HK constables is
a great idea, since they are notorious in missing the crooks but
hitting innocent bystanders. Jokingly I always tell my friends that
the HK police should use .22 pistol only, so that hits on bystanders
will be less fatal. From my limited experience with the Glock, (I
shot a rented one once at an LA gun club), it is easy to handle, but
equally easy to let one off carelessly. I am not a real marksman but
I believe myself to be better than the average HK constables(but 
definitely not the Flying Tigers), but at 21 yds, I can only hit
a head one out of three. In other words, if I were a HK policeman,
there were at least 2 stray bullets for the innocent bystanders. 

Of course, with the Red Star and Type 56 the crooks get from across
the border, they do need something more powerful. I wonder if it is
not a better idea to equip them with semi only MP 5, which is
already used by the Flying Tigers, or something similar like the
Spectre. With two hands and a stock, hopefully they can shoot a little
better.
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From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: love /marriage
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:04:02 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology

In article <1992Sep26.152749.7049@dsg.tandem.com> leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung) writes:
>kingchun@buengf.bu.edu (Tsai King Chun) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep23.221855.5285@athena.mit.edu> siu@athena.mit.edu (Olivia I Siu) wriLittle
>|> guess I didn't quote enough from the book to give a complete idea of what this
>|> >sentence: "A clever woman marries the man who loves her, not the one she loves."
>|> >means in that particular context. 
>
>I agree. If that author really means as what Olivia said, then the first part
>("it's hard to find a person you love who will love you just as much") is
>alright, (since you can't determine "just as much," so it's hard to find!)
>But from that to generalize into the statement like that is beyond my
>understanding. My guess is that the author is a male, because if women buy

She is not a male, but a baby PIG! (100% girl)    |)

>his thoery here, you know who is the real beneficiaries:-) I guess I should
>shut up qui ...

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