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From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
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Subject: Re: AIDS and Klingons
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Date: 13 Dec 92 11:01:38 EST
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In article <168B91354D.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>
> In article <1992Dec9.083609.16928@Virginia.EDU>
> particular.  It's just that I've read reports and articles about how
> a character, [usually Geordi] SHOULD be gay; that there SHOULD be
> gay characters or story based on homosexuality)  It's not just homosexuality;
> it's religion, abortion, animal rights, or any other push button issues
> out there.

It seems that TNG has already expressed an opinion on being gay.
It was in "The Outcast" and it was favorable.  Or you could just
say that they were expressing the fact that a great part of
society still shuns homosexuality.  They didn't do it directly
with a crewmember being gay, but I think the idea of a sexless
race with deviants hit it quite nicely.
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From: jwells@netcom.com (Court Jester)
Subject: Re: airplane ii and tng
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:37:20 GMT

"bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:

>I just watched "Airplane II: The Sequel" today and noticed a VERY
>familiar set!  Re-watch the bridge of that lunar base on Alpha Beta.
>It's the exact same set that was used on "The Quality of Life"!  You
>know, that particle fountain place?  I could tell by the grating and
>that strange contraption with the long beam of red lights.  In fact,
>Shatner in "Airplane II" makes a comment about those flashing, bleeping,
>beeping, and blinking lights!

>Anybody else agree?  Can anyone confirm this?  IS it the same set?

Well, I can't confirm or deny that, but I am sure there are many others
besides myself that could tell you they've seen that same prop with the
beam of red lights in *many* other movies and series. Myself, I roll my
eyes whenever I see that now-cliche contraption...

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From: s_perera@iastate.edu (Sunil M Perera)
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:31:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.093909.8084@eskimo.com> fate@eskimo.com (Craig Stykel) writes:
>Neal_washburn@iegate.mitre.org (Neal Washburn) writes:
>> Ronny Cox also appeared on the TV program "St. Elsewhere."  He was a 
>> doctor hired by the corporation who took over the hospital.  His
>position 
>> was head of the hospital adminidtration.  He was a "company person"
>and he 
>> was very un-popular among the staff.
>> 
>> Sound familier?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> N.H.Washburn
>> Member of the Technical Staff
>> The MITRE Corporation
>> Normal Disclaimers
>If it's the same person, he also played in Robocop1 as
>a head of O.P.C. and he played the villian...

 Someone else told me that he played Police Commissioner on "Beverly Hills
 Cop".

the little tan man
From: sbarnes@dragger.ifmt.nf.ca (Spencer J. Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Captains Yacht
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:19:09 GMT
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Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

In <1992Dec11.075538.1820@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:

>In article <sbarnes.723921614@dragger> sbarnes@dragger.ifmt.nf.ca (Spencer J. Barnes) writes:
>>
>>Even simpler solution:  The captains yacht is a refitted shuttlecraft...  the 
>>same externals can be used and an interior set (modified from the current
>>shuttle created)  No model building necessary....

>Hmm, well, from the schematics in the TNG Tech Manual, the Captain's Yacht looks
>not much at all like a shuttlecraft. It is kind of a flying-saucer shape. Also,
>if I remember correctly, the Yacht is non-warp-capable. Point in favor of 
>standard shuttlecraft...


Oops - missed that one (but just because we have a schematic doesn't mean that is the actual design in service...  we all know the difference between design & reality)  Still, it would be cheap to do.

Spencer
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Promos for: CHAIN OF COMMAND Pt.2 (#237) +DSN
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 18:06:39 EST

In article <1992Dec13.182938.2639@netcom.com>
jwells@netcom.com (Court Jester) writes:
 
>
>dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>
>>In accordance with the new schedule, promos for the next new ST:TNG episode
>>"Chain of Command Pt.2" (#237) were released today.  The actual program will
>>air starting on Saturday, December 19th.
>
>In the East Bay Area, STTNG is aired on Wednesdays, so we get to see it
>on December 16!!!
>
>I'm sure there must be a lot other areas the see Star Trek earlier than
>Saturdays, but I just had to let everyone know how excited--and lucky--
>I am to see it on Wednesday! =)
>
>--
   In New Haven CT/New York area, we see it on Saturdays, so we are at
the end of the loop.  In addition, since I have to go to a wedding
in Washington for a friend of mine, I will not be able to see it
until I see it on my VCR, at the earliest Monday night (or most likely
Tuesday at dawn.)  Considering my agonizing wait....
   I have hired a hitman to target you before this Wednesday.
   You will DIE before you see CoC 1.
   Have a nice day.
 
 
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From: lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape)
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Subject: Deep Throat 9....Knoxville.
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:47:20 GMT
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	Does anyone know if/when DS9 will be in Knoxville, TN?  I have not
see it advertised on local TV, but then again, I see very little television
beyond ST:TNG.  Please e-mail any info.


Bryon Lape


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From: "paul manson" <paul.manson@canrem.com>
Subject: deep space 9 == where?!?
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Date: 20 Dec 92 23:08:44 EST

Toronto CITY-TV Regular program DSN January 16, 1993 time as yet 
unkown.

LL&P 

               PAUL S. MANSON CRS TORONTO
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From: WDENNEN@CCVM.sunysb.edu (Bill Dennen)
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Subject: A Christmas Carol
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:18:01 -0600
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I haven't seen a review yet for Patrick Stewart's A Christmas Carol.

Has anybody seen it (this year)?

I'm going on Saturday night!

Bill

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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 01:28:11 EST

    Here is my solution for this whole thing.
    Work out a crew profile, personality profile and job profiles first, but
leave the species, race, and sex blank.
    Throw a coin to see whether a character should be male or female.
    Throw a dice to see what species a character should be (1= human; 2=vulcan;
3=betazed; etc.)
    Throw a dice to see what race a character should be (1=white; 2=black;
3=Asian; etc.)
   [Or even better use a random number generator on a computer, and weigh
the probabilities to the current or future population profile.)
 
   If the color of the skin or gender truly did not matter, (at least in doing
their job or carrying the show) then such random choice of characteristics
shouldn't matter; and if the writers were good enough, they could create
conflict arising from the given situation: e.g. due to freak throw, all the
characters are black female vulcans.  You could still have conflicts arising
from differences in beliefs (a la Spock vs. Sarek); sexual conflicts (what
happens in pon farr when no male vulcans are nearby); etc. etc.
   The point is:  I don't think there SHOULD be a precept of a charcter based
on gender or race.  If, as TNG is supposed to be, there is true equality, then
the fact that most people we see are white males (btw, I think a majority of
admirals have been one "minority" group or another, of course they are hardly
given any screen time...) can be chalked upto a freak crap shoot, and it truly
doesn't matter.
   IMO, trying to force a certain minority character on the show, especially
by arguing that there *SHOULD* be such a minority character in the cast,
reveals a certain insecurity and perhaps an inferiority complex on the part
of the minority group (which usually they claim they are trying to avoid),
especially on a show which has in many ways gone out of its way to show its
commitment to equality.
 
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          Junsok Yang (YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu)
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
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Subject: Re: A Good Captain
Date: 13 Dec 92 06:52:16 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <Byz0Bu.2sJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:

>>Not to start or repeat any rumors, but just suppose that Captain
>>Picard gets promoted to admiral, and the E needs a new captain.
>>Who should it be?

It should be the current first officer, obviously.

>  Anyone who is going to replace Stewart will have to be as charismatic,
>enigmatic, well-rounded, seasnoned, and talented as Stewart.  Frakes is
>right   
>out.  Without Picard he's nothing. I would suggest someone like Sean Connery
>or Peter O'Tool.  Of course, being such big stars, they probably never do it.

I disagree.  I think he would make a fine captain.  He did a hell of a job
in Best of Both Worlds, when Picard was out of the picture.

Now, I noticed you said "to replace Stewart."  Do you mean the character,
or the actor?  I assume you mean the actor, since you did say "Stewart"
twice.  If so, I don't understand why.

Everyone talks about how great an actor Stewart is, and how he out-shines
all the other actors on the show (possible exception - Spiner).  Well, I'm
going to have to take your word for it, because with few exceptions, there's
no way to tell.  Let's face it, discouting such rare gems as "The Inner
Light", what have we seen Stewart do that's so damn good?  When your story
sucks (or, let's not say it sucks, let's just say it's "average"), there's
not a whole lot a great actor can do about it.  You need a great story
first, and those have been few and far between recently.

So, I think anybody could do a good job of replacing Picard (the character)
as the captain, because TNG just doesn't require all that much acting
talent.

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: URGENT - Latest ST:TNG Schedule
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
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Date: 12 Dec 92 22:45:56 EST

 -=> Corey Lynn Nelson babbled to All and look what he said! <=-

 CLN> 139   1/30/93  239        Aquiel

 CLN> "Aquiel" is the proper spelling.

That's what he put!

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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
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Subject: Re: STVI Continuity error ?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:03:32 GMT
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In article <921216.151352@ia.ph.bham.ac.uk> HR-5@ia.ph.bham.ac.uk (Connor MacLeod (of the Clan MacLeod)) writes:
>I'm sure somebody must have already mentioned this, but in Star Trek VI,
>the cloaked bird of prey is defeated by a gas-seeking torpedo - Lt Uhuru
>having suggested the use of 'the equipment we're carrying to chart
>gaseous planetary anomolies' - How is it, then, that at the beginning
>of the film, it is the Excelsior which is carrying this equipment, not
>the Enterprise - in fact, the Enterprise is in space dock when Kirk et
>al. first set off - thus (presumably) it has not got this equipment on
>board ??

	Geez, don't you know :) :) :) that the Enterprise had been charting
gaseous planetary anomolies BEFORE being called back to Earth for the mission,
and hadn't had time to off-load the equipment?

	I mean, there are a lot of gaseous planetary anomolies in the
Federation, do you think that there'd be just ONE starship charting them? :)
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
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Subject: Press Release - #237: Chain of Command, Part II
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:26:52 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


Chain of Command, Part II

Episode #237			uplink dates: 12/19/92, 12/20/92



                           _S_P_E_L_L_I_N_G_S

	Minos Korva


				_C_A_S_T

	Captain Jean-Luc Picard			Patrick Stewart
	Commander William Riker			Jonathan Frakes
	Lieutenant Commander Data		Brent Spiner
	Dr. Beverly Crusher			Gates McFadden
	Counselor Deanna Troi			Marina Sirtis
	Lieutenant Commander Geordi LaForge	LeVar Burton
	Lieutenant Worf				Michael Dorn

	Captain Jellico				Ronny Cox
	Gul Lemec				John Durbin
	Gul Madred				David Warner
	Jil Orra				Heather Lauren Olson
	

	Written by:				Frank Abatemarco
	Directed by:				Les Landau



_P_R_O_G_R_A_M_ _H_I_G_H_L_I_G_H_T_S

	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: "Chain of Command, Part II" -- While
	under the command of an unfeeling new captain, the Enterprise attempts
	to rescue Picard from the Cardassians.


_T_V_ _G_U_I_D_E_ _A_D_S

	WHAT PRICE, VICTORY?

	Will the Enterprise's new captain let Picard die in enemy hands?


_T_V_ _L_O_G_ _L_I_S_T_I_N_G_S

	New captain risks war and Picard's life STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: When is/was Chain of Command I?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:40:40 GMT

I'm sort of ticked off myself.  

CoC I was aired tonight (12/13) in Dallas.  TV Guide listed the
episode as a repeat of Relics, and last night's episode was a repeat
of the one where Troi gets old (can't remember the name), as
accurately reported in TV Guide.  I missed the preview from last
night, so I had no warning about CoC I.  I never saw an ad or trailer
for it.  I just happened to switch channels about ten minutes in, and
spent the rest of the show wondering what the *hell* was going on.

Luckily for me [ And lucky for several of the execs at the local TV
station ;) (which is Paramount-run) ] they repeat the episode on the
following Saturday, that being the 19th.  I suppose CoC II will be
aired on the 20th...

Grrr...  I just looooooove Paramount.
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:33:31 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec17.044247.3351@sbcs.sunysb.edu> gkatz@csws6.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz) writes:
>Let's not forget, and certainly hope it's the case, that for woman to be captain of a ship,
>or a political leader, that she received that positoin because she was the best
>person for the job at the time of its availability.  In other words, I do not want
>a woman in any position of authority just because she's a woman, and I don't want
>a man in any position of authority just because he's a man.
>
>I have no problem with a woman commanding the Enterprise, but should there be one
>in the future, I pray that it's not going to be another "a woman can do just as much
>as a man" type of episode seen in many television shows of women suddenly in
>positions held only by men in the past.  
>
>That is why, for instance, I like Murphy Brown.  Here there is a strong
>female character of considerable authority and deserved respect, but she
>doesn't shove it in your face that's she's female.  She lets her work
>and abilities speak for how terrific she is at what she does.  She doesn't
>try to prove anything.
>
And why I liked "Yesterday's Enterprise".  Captain Garrett was a competant,
intelligent Starfleet Captain.  There was no "You're Captain's a woman"
comments.  That was it and that was that.  The fact she was a woman had
nothing to do with the story, her crew seemed to look up to her with the
same admiration and respect E-D's crew look at Picard.


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From: cs911115@ariel.yorku.ca (GLEN GIACOMELLI)
Subject: TNG Synopsis	
Originator: cs911115@a06.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:07:35 GMT


If anyone has synopsis's for all of the The Next Generation expisodes, could they please send me information.  Thanks.
From: hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Borg
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:44:47 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <aaronm.20.0@ccmail.orst.edu>, aaronm@ccmail.orst.edu (Mithran Aaron) writes:
> Does anyone out there like the Borg?
> 
> I personally find them to be a very interesting idea for a society.
> 
> I also like them.

You are also a very boring and stupid person and you will be stimulated.


Matt or 3rd of 3
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From: coop7z52@bnr.ca (Rahim Pira)
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Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:57:48 GMT
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Organization: Bell Northern Research


  I'm sorry, but I forgot who wrote the article and the message-ID, so no flames.
The article referred to why Dr. Crusher too did not wear a proper uniform occasionally.  I'm sorry, but as far as I can tell, she always wears the proper uniform.  However, she will occasionally wear a lab coat on top of her uniform.  I don't consider this to mean that she is not wearing the proper uniform.

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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: 7th season ?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:28:10 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Dec10.113103.25703@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:

>An interesting question would be, "Will Paramount
>continue to make the series if any one actor splits?"  I hope
>not.  If that happens, they should just quit and start making
>movies.

The answer, of course, is "yes."  Denise Crosby (Tasha Yar) "split"
several seasons ago.  Dr. Crusher left for a while, then returned.  
Wesley Crusher also left.  Chief O'Brien and Kiko (sp?) are transferring 
to Deep Space Nine sometime this season, and Ensign Ro is leaving.

I don't see why the departure of one actor should mean the end
of the series.  In the real navies, most officers don't serve on
a ship for seven years.  Transfers and promotions are to be expected.
One of the unrealistic aspects of the Star Trek movies is that you
have officers still working as helmsmen, communications officers,
etc. after 20 years.  By rank and experience, these people should
be commanding their own ships.
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Borg
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:33:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I was lukewarm on them at first, but really got into them as I was writing
"Vendetta."  I thought they were a kick...although I was not enthused about
the latest entry in the Borg saga, "I Borg," which has been rightly nicknamed
"Edward Scissorborg."

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