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From: mbaffoni@skat.usc.edu (Michael Baffoni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon 040 so soon? (was Re: Tramiel's got the spirit)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 18:50:21 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <4378@wet.UUCP> ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen) writes:

>There was a post recently stating that someone saw resumes from a couple
>of engineers at Atari and one of their latest accomplishments was the
>completion of the Falcon040.

	Hmm. Beware the English language - it holds traps!  If you recall from
that post about the resumes, you will remember that is said that they listed
"development of the Falcon '040", not that they did indeed finish it.  They
could have been on the project for one day, or one year.  Of course, it is 
more likely that they were hired to build one subsystem and as soon as it
was finished, they were let go (contract/consulting job).

	Or they may have finished the whole Falcon '040.  The point is
don't be suckered by the wording.  The point of salesmanship is to
talk about a product so that it seems better than it is, without telling an
outright lie (sometimes truth helps, sometimes not).  I realize this is a 
rather cynical way of looking at things, but it is all too correct at times.

	You may think "what does salesmanship have to do with what these 
people put on their resume?", but if you have ever written a serious resume,
you know that your resume is a way of selling yourself without actually being
there (because your resume (copies) can be in 1,000 places at once.  You can 
not).

>-- 
>   |||    Ed Krimen
>   |||    ekrimen@wet.uucp   Contributing Editor, Atari Explorer Online
>  / | \   E.KRIMEN (GEnie)            Vice-President, ABACUS User Group

-Mike
From: s19184@seb.se (Michael Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: SPC to GIF
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:30:42 GMT
Organization: S-E-Banken, Sweden
Nntp-Posting-User: s19184

In article <antony.718323257@milton>, antony@milton.u.washington.edu (Anthony Hand) writes:
> 
> Does anyone know of a program to convert Spectrum files to GIF format?
> I have a program that will do the opposite ie., convert from GIF to
> Spectum, but I've recently discovered a need to "go the other way".
> 

I found this in my diskette box (ST Club GRD*36)
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      SPECGIF4.PRG converts Spectrum .SPC or .SPU files to GIF files,
320x200x256 colors. When you start the program a dialog box comes up;
it has 3 options: interlace, non-interlace and quit. You'll get
exactly the same GIF picture whether you choose interlace or not; it
only affects the order in which scan lines are stored (interlace
allows you to view a picture online before it was completely
transmitted).

      Next comes the load file selector. Choose you Spectrum picture.
Conversion takes about 7-8 seconds and then you gethe save file


selector. You can simply click OK, since the program automatically
changes the filename extension to .GIF . Note that if you change the
pathname when saving, it's remembered separately from the load
pathname. Makes it easy when you want to convert a lot of pictures,
let's say from SPECTRUM folder to GIF folder. When the file is saved
you return to the startup dialog box; you can choose to continue or
quit.


                                             Boris Tsikanovsky
                                             Trio Engineering
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I assume that it is on an archive somewhere, although I could not see
it when I quick ly looked throught the cs.ruu.nl listing. If it is
not available, I could post it. Where?

BTW the program is less than 6K.

-- 
Michael Evans                Telephone: +46-8-639 33 70
SEB Data R                         Fax: +46-8-639 37 62
S-106 40  Stockholm           Internet: mike@seb.se
Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ant@mks.com (Anthony Howe)
Subject: Atari archieve without ftp.
Keywords: n
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:02:24 GMT

How does anyone without ftp access get material from Atari Archieve at
umich?  I tried when BART was in use and had no luck with various 
mail paths, and bitmail is no longer accepting non-bitnet (or what-ever)
requests.

It is all very nice to see all this neat stuff fly by week after week
but NO ONE BOTHERS TO SEND ANYTHING TO SOURCES and BINARIES groups!!!
You can't assume that everyone has ftp!  If you going to upload new
material how about sending a copy to the moderator of comp.sources.atari.st
and comp.binaries.atari.st so that others who are not as fortunate to be
able to ftp everywhere can get some of the new material.

-ant
-- 
ant@mks.com                                                   Anthony C Howe 
Mortice Kern Systems Inc. 35 King St. N., Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, N2J 6W9
"Nice legs.  For a human that is." - Worf (Q-pid)
From: mbyd_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mark A. Broyld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Anyone selling a color computer digitizer
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:51:47 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


 I am looking for a digitizer. Something along the lines of color computereyes or Vidi-St or something. Please reply soon. 
.
From: selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Uploaded ARC version of perfpich v1.1 to a.a
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:38:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: selick@csa

After the whole stink about the self extracting zip file I sent a while
back, I re-did it with good o'l arc, and uploaded it to
terminator.cc.umich.edu in /New. Perfpich is a program that requires at
least one midi keyboard and one tone generator. If your keyboard can
turn off local control (use its internal tone generator through midi
only, while sending out keyboard info) then you can use your keyboard
alone. The object is to build your speed at determining pitches by
finding the note the computer plays without hearing the keys you're
pressing.

-Steve <selick@csa.bu.edu>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
Subject: Re: ATARI COMPUTER WISH LIST 
Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:28:53 GMT

jartsu@vipu.hut.fi (Jartsu) writes:
: In article <gkxzv5n@rpi.edu> oyakea@warren1b.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake) writes:
: > 5) At least one University level Math or/and Cad Program such as
: Mathematica,     Maple, Math-Cad, AutoCad, ProEngineer...
Hmmm... Riemann? 

: > 9) At least some C++ compatible compiler.
: 
: Isn't there?
Well, there is GNU C++...

: > 10) YES!! Multitasking ( I use a Sun and can't live without multitasking ).
: >     Think of running an application and then needing to list a directory or
: >     have a file print in the background (e.g. text file), or even a comm
: >     program running.
: 
: Fully possible. Just install MiNT or Minix to your ST. 
Or MultiGEM, or Mag!X (both commercial products, around 200DM I think)

: > 16) A UNIX Variant: if a 68010 Sun could run Unix back then, whats
: the problem?
: 
: There is a Sys V r.4 for TT
Besides, MiNT (the freeware version (or was it PD? sorry E.Smith, I keep
forgetting... :-( )) is much more POSIX-ish than most Unix-alike OSs, so it's
usually a matter of minutes to port a Unix program to MiNT/GCC.

: > 23) A bigger case for the Falcon030, with VME, two proc.direct slots and CPU
: >     module.
: 
: Atari is redesigning the case...
Really? Haven't heard about that... But the german company "ddd" has announced
a case for the F030 that will cost 199,- DM and will have a separate keyboard,
and the possibility to add a 2nd drive...

Marinos Yannikos
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Which programming language?
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:36:11 GMT
	<1992Oct10.020928.23786@splunge.uucp>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: garth@splunge.uucp's message of 10 Oct 92 02:09:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.020928.23786@splunge.uucp> garth@splunge.uucp (Garth Wood) writes:
|>As someone else on the net posted a while ago, Borland doesn't seem to
|>want there to be an English version of the Pure C manual out of pure
|>spite.  There certainly isn'y any *economic* reason to deny English-
|>speaking ST users an English manual -- it's not like the product
|>actually competes with Borland's Turbo C on the PC!  Frankly, if I
|>ever do buy a PC (yecccchhh!!!), I will certainly remember Borland's
|>churlishness in this regard when considering software purchases.

The way I heard it was that the US branch of Borland didn't want to be
associated with a 'toy machine' like the ST. Fortunately their German branch
were a little more open-minded, which is what led to the existence of
Pure C in the first place.

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like it and keep a copy for your own use, you owe me $20. Please pass it on
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
Subject: Re: Chaos on atari.archive!
Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:48:56 GMT

naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
: In article <1992Oct14.130210.3842@arizona.edu>, paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Paul Harris) writes:
:
[about un-MSA-ing chaos[12].msa]
: 
: I haven't got the archiver (msa_141.lzh) to work either.
: It loads OK, but when I try to unpack the chaos1 (2).msa it screws up the disk I 
: am unpacking to.
: BTW I did *exactly* what the docs said to do and even some guesses!
: Please help us chaos lovers!
: 
: Phil
: (E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc)

I'm not sure, but I think that you will need a disk formatted to
11 sectors per track before you unpack that .MSA archive, since
the MSA program itself seems to be unable to do that itself. So
you will have to use eg. Hypercopy or a similar program to do
that.

-MY
From: rkaczano@dante.nmsu.edu (KACZANOWSKI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Jeff K. in S.F. Bay Area
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:50:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM

Hi, I'm looking for Jeff K. out in the S.F. Bay Area.  Jeff (an avid
Atari User), if you read this, contact me (we were in the Bay Area
Atari Users Group!).

-Rob
From: chang@ADELPHI-ASSB01.ARMY.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Need help with OPUS
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:39:34 GMT
Reply-To: chang@ADELPHI-ASSB01.ARMY.MIL


>I am having a bit of a problem getting access to the charting features of
>OPUS 2.2.  After running the Assigner.prg and FONTWID.PRG, I get a
>message from OPUS that screen and printer fonts don't match.  Anybody

	Opus screen and printer files must match sizes one to one.  If 
you do what I did and used the fonts from an existing program (mine
was Timeworks DTP I), and used those fonts, you'll have to edit the
assign.sys such that there is a one to one correspondance between screen
and printer fonts, i.e.  shelvtica14 => phelvtica14 (I faked the naming
scheme coz I don't remember what it was).

	As a result, you will have much less fonts available that in
Timeworks, but the charting funciton will work.

	This info is in the docs that come Opus, however

	Fo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: I guess no one knows how to program a desk accessory?
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:50:53 GMT

Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:


>Using GFA-Basic (3.5E) the code for an accessory call is only about
>300 bytes!  Very simple to do!  (Although, setting up of RAM is
>important, as either you lose it all, or can't use any, which is the
>most difficult bit, although still simple enough)
> 
>It is a VERY BASIC language, and runs a LOT faster than any other
>BASIC I've seen so far. (And faster than the C-programs I've seen
>so-far, and more compact code)

>Within 2-hours of getting the thing, I'd written my own 'Show
>free-disk space' Desk-accessory.  Quite fun actually!
>-- 
>    

In Pure-C about 15 minutes, executable smaller than you would believe...:)
Use C - it's clean, fast and compact. Modern basics aren't too bad (I've
used Omikron for years), but C is just more flexible and 'decent'.
And writing an ACC is not at all difficult - just the same as writing a PRG.
I could send you some sample (C-) source if you want to take a look at
'how it's actually done'.


--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  |  hjv@phil.ruu.nl  |   You look for your dreams in
Dept. of Philosophy   |                   |   heaven, but what the hell are
University of Utrecht |                   |   you supposed to do when they
The Netherlands       |                   |   come true...?
From: neal@NeoSoft.com (Neal Symms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: learning assembly language
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:09:34 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

In article <1992Oct15.035220.10609@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>So how do you program assembly?  I assume one needs a compiler orf something? 
>Where do you find those?   Shareware?  PD?   Where?   Are there any really good
>beginners manuals?
>
>
>			-Matt

Well, there's an excellent article on assembly language fundamentals in the
current issue of Atari Advantage magazine!  It's an excerpt from a new book
by Clayton Walnum.  If you can't find a copy of Atari Advantage at your
local :-) atari dealer, then subscribe!  Or ask for a single copy ($4
w/postage included).

Atari Advantage
P.O. Box 610121
Houston, TX  77208
(713) 526-6436

Disclaimer:  I have everything to do with Atari Advantage.  :-)
-- 
Neal Symms						neal@neosoft.com
Atari Advantage Magazine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Spectre and the Mac Comm Toolbox
Summary: Does Spectre access the Toolbox? 
Keywords: spectre, mac, communications
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:34:10 EDT

I don't know about the technicalities of this, but I was
wondering if Spectre reliably access the Mac Communications
Toolbox?  Alternatively, does anybody know if "point" software
on the Mac to access Fido-net BBSs will work under Spectre?
Thanks,
Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
From: Martin_Sprengel@ki.maus.de (Martin Sprengel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Convert picture formats??
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:39:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: KI.A13027
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14

garth@splunge.uucp schrieb am 4.10.92 um 15:56:

g> leonp@cs.kun.nl (Leon Pillich) writes:
g>
g> >Just a simple question.
g> >I'm looking for a program that can convert several picture formats.
g> >I want especially to convert a 16 color gif to a black and white degas
g> >picture (320x200 to 640x400).
g>
g> >I think there must be a program to do this, but which?
g> >And where can I find it (pd/shareware/freeware).

How about GEM-VIEW (shareware) ??

supported image formats are:

    "GEM-View images           [ *.GVW ]"   (internes Format)
    "GIF Images                [ *.GIF ]"
    "JPEG Images               [ *.JPG ]"
    "Sun Rasterfiles           [ *.SUN ]"
    "Imagelab Images           [ *.B&W ]
    "STAD Images               [ *.PAC ]"
    "IFF Imagefiles            [ *.IFF ]"
    "MS-Windows Bitmap         ( *.BMP, *.RLE )"
    "OS/2 Bitmap               ( *.BMP )"
    "GEM-(X)Image Files        ( *.IMG )"
    "GEM-Metafiles (Vector)    ( *.GEM )"
    "Neochrome Rasterfiles     ( *.NEO )"
    "Art-Director Rasterfiles  ( *.ART )"
    "Degas Images              ( *.P[IC][123] )"
    "Tiny-Compressed Images    ( *.TN[123Y] )"
    "Doodle Monochrome Rasters ( *.DOO [640x...] )"
    "Spectrum 512 Images       ( *.SPU, *.SPC )"
    "Portable Bit Map          [*.P[BGP]M]"
    "MacPaint Image            [*.MAC]"
    "X Bitmap-File             [ *.XBM ]"

for more detailed information, author's address:

        |                  Dieter Fiebelkorn                   |
        |                   Gruener Weg  29a                    |
        |                 W4370 Marl-Brassert                  |
        |                      (Germany)                       |
        |                                                      |
        |   email: fiebelko@petra.informatik.uni-dortmund.de   |
        |                                                      |
        |               phone: +49-2365-65952                  |


Martin
From: glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Are You A Decent Artist?
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:20:08 -0500
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com


	If anybody is interested in doing some graphics for my upcoming game
please contact me.  I have been feverishly working on the code and I am
admitadly no artist.  I NEED SOME GRAPHICS!

Thanks.
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From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Atari Corp. Scand. AB (Norway)
Subject: Re: Harddisk size
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:28:16 MET

In <1992Oct14.102438.12585@cs.utwente.nl>, Han Baumer writes:
>I have a quantum harddisk of 105Mb on my TT. Recently the harddisk was
>full, but when I did a 'du -s' I got as an answer 80 Mb. So there is
>about 25 Mb lost. I know about the 1 Kb blocks being the smallest unit
>of memory on the harddisk. So with about 4000 files this would result
>in a loss of (at maximum) 4 Mb. This would mean that about 21 Mb is
>needed to store the directory structure. This seems too much to me. 
>Does anyone know what is the matter here?
>
>I tried to use some disk-optimizers but they didn't seem to work with
>one partition of 105 Mb.
>

Remember that 105MB often is calculated as 105*1000*1000 Bytes, but if
you calculate the right way using 1024*1024 for a MB, 105 is actually
only 100.1MB (there goes 5 MB:-)
And when you have such a large partition, the clustersize (smallest 
adressable storage space on the harddisk) is often (but not always) 4096Bytes.
There are however utilities available that enables you to alter this before 
you start using the disk (just after partitioning the drive). The catch is
that the smaller the cluster size, the larger the FAT becomes, and the 
filesystem will use longer time to find a given cluster.
Then if you say that on average you loose 1/2 cluster for each file, there 
goes another 7.8MB (4000*2048 Bytes) and in addition, every directory takes
up another 4K, so if you have some 400 directories, you *loose* another
1.6MB. Adding all this up gives 14.4MB *lost space.
Calculating worst case shows a maximum loss of 25MB.
(I've not taken into account the space that FAT1 & FAT2 takes up, which
usually is about 80K on such a large partition)!

PS. When I say smallest adressable storage space, i do mean the smallest
    storagespace the filesystem uses on ordinary file operations!

PPS. I MIGHT be wrong and/or even forgotten something, so please feel free 
     to correct me if I'm wrong!

-- 
  _______________________________________________________
 / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon 040 / Windowing UNIX
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:38:00 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Oct7.063621.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, 7103_2622@uwovax.uwo.ca (Eric Smith) writes:
> ......No networking is
> built in to MiNT, but it should be possible to write a network (MiNT
> allows file systems and device drivers to be loaded at boot time; it
> also provides 2 way fifo's, so a program could even be written to make
> the network connection look like a local pipe, I think).

     So it would be possible to put up a network? HOw hard would this be
to write? Anybody want to do it? The reason I'm asking is that sometimes
it would be nice to be able to setup a network between ST's. And the
network program at Atari.archive is not very good at this, and very
crash prone. I've used MiNT and seen how reliable it is, even with my
lowly 1meg ST. I do not have the knowledge or skills to write a
networking scheme.

Later.......

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From: sacha@aslan.en.open.de (Sacha Moufarrege)
Subject: S: Statistics program
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 10:25:00 +0100
Distribution: comp
Organization: Jugendmailbox des CVJM Witten e.V. +49 2302 14705
X-Version: FROGMAIL (2nd_try) 0.71 beta

Hi!

I'm looking for a statistics program for my ST. It should be something 
like the SPSS package for *ix or DOS, if it's possible in the public 
domain.
Any hint is appreciated.
Please reply by mail.

Sacha
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