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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:52:36 +1200
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From:         KEVIN@CSC.CIT.AC.NZ
Subject:      Lost keyboard response

I've just installed a Novell 3.11 server on a 386-40 with 8Mb RAM and
100Mb disk.  All went well with the installation and the server works fine
EXCEPT that the keyboard takes a permanent vacation after the server is
up.

I tried running it without the AUTOEXEC.NCF with the same result.

This machine has been running DOS without any problems.

Anyone got any ideas?

Cheers
Kevin

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:31:43 -0500
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From:         "Gary W. Chapman" <chapman@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Archie and Gopher programs for PC and the Internet Q's

Thanks Joe.
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From:         "A.J. Sheehan" <GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: Intruder Lockout on Guest

If the network number and MAC address came out as zeroes it is likely that
someone at a Mac was attempting to login to your server. Do you have any Macs
on your network?

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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From:         TREICHEL@CGC.BITNET
Subject:      Re: list traffic

I think this idea is wonderfull. If not on this list dose anyone else have
the time and space to setup a digest?
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: WINPKT.COM - where can I get it 
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 04:34:52 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <41715.rbrown@[138.86.1.3]> rbrown@slinky.UnivNorthCo.EDU writes:

   We are just starting to use ODI here and I need to find a copy of WINPKT if
   I understand the docs correctly.  I found ODIPKT in with my packet drives
   but don't know where it came from.  Archie can't find WINPKT, however, so I
   am turing to the amazing collective knowledge of the list.

It's in the Crynwr Packet Driver Collection.  Look for another
message entitled "Clarkson (sic) Packet Drivers" for the howtoget.it file.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:29:48 EST
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From:         RBOYER2 <rboyer2@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: QUESTIONS FOR THE OLD WISE ONES!!

          On question #1: make sure you have the printer configured
          for the proper LPT port.  If you set it for LPT2 and the
          printer is attached to LPT1, you can get these results.
          Other than that, our remote boot rprinters work fine.  Also,
          why work about loading capture high?  It is NOT a TSR and
          will be gone when it finishes executing.  The shell is what
          redirects your printers and drives; not capture and map.

          HTH! - Rick

I HAVE JUST COMPLETE A NEW INSTALLATION OF NETWARE 3.11 AND I HAVE SOME
QUESTIONS.  I'LL GIVE ALL THE FACTS AND THEN THE PUNCH LINE.

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Q1:  IBM PRO PRINTER PROBLEMS (Say that fast 4 times)

FACTS:
OUR SERVER IS A 486DX 50mhz'ER WITH 8MB OF RAM.  WE USE RG58 COAX CABLE
AND WE ARE RUNNING NE2000 ON OUR CARDS.  THIS PARTICULAR WORKSTATION IS A
386SX 16mhz WITH 1.5 MB OF RAM AND BOOTS FROM A BOOT ROM CHIP.  I AM LOADING
RPRINTER AND SETTING UP AN IBM PROPRINTER TO SERVICE MY QUE.  THE PRINTER
WILL RECEIVE DATA BUT WILL PRINT AT 1 LETTER PER EVERY THIRTY SECONDS IF
THE PRINT REQUEST COMES FROM ANOTHER WORKSTATION.  IF THE REQUEST COMES FROM
THE WORKSTATION WHERE THE PRINTER IS CONNECTED, THE PRINT SPEED IS NORMAL.
I HAVE OTHER PRINTERS (OKIDATA'S) THAT PRINT FINE UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS.

**** WHY DOES MY PRINTER RESPOND SLOWLY TO REMOTE REQUEST???
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From:         Jeff Macdonald <JEFF@SAND.LIUNET.EDU>
Subject:      Archie and Gopher programs for PC and the Internet Q's

I've been reading about all these DOS client programs that use the
Internet. I'm assuming that the programs are stored on a file server
and ip addresses are assigned by RARP or BOOTP.

Now the question I have is this: are these client programs attaching
to a host server (ARCHIE or GOPHER) on their own networks? Or are
they going directly to the host in the Internet? If they are going
to the Internet directly, then I assume that there are no
regulations against PC hosts acessing the Internet, or there is some
sort of policing going on?

I can't see how a PC GOPHER client could work on a system that has a
'firewall' to the Internet since my understanding of GOPHER is that
it creates new connections from the client to each host, grabs the
info, and then disconnects.

The Internet provider we have is PSI, and as far as I can tell we
only have 3 main/minis that are in its routing tables. I don't know
what the actual service we have is because I can't get a striaght
answer from the Director.

Jeff Macdonald
Assistant Network Engineer
Southampton Campus
Long Island University
Southampton, NY 11968
(516)283-4000 ext 352

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From: kxg8272@usl.edu (Guruswamy Karthikeyan)
Subject: Cluttering of list ...
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:18:35 GMT

Hi !,
This is with ref. to the cluttering of bitl.listserv.novel. with FAQs
Well it measures the activity of the group - doesnt it  ? I am sure the
emails  flying around must be atleast 100 times more than the replies sent
to the forum. Well considering the health of the list, maybe a couple of
subgroups ought to be created. It will be nice if articles like list
data base access etc,., are more supported for pointers to answers - rather
than the solutions themselves. A bulletin board would be great classifying 
distilled internet stuff to categories - but who would do that ?

Categories would be like:
(a) Server crashing
(b) Problems with utilities (like NWPOPUP)
(c) TCP/IP issues
    routing
(d) Windows related
(e) Netware 2.15c
(f) Netware 3.11
(h) SCSI adapter
(i) CD-ROM
(f) Ethernet II
(g) PSERVER
etc.,

The problem+solution must be tagged with one or more of the above 
categories (you can have an automatic program that looks for keywords
in the above categories and tag them) and seal it in the database in
the bulletin board system. The user can type in a couple of tags and
get a list of stuff already discussed. But can it be done ? Well, that
would be a expert-system for sure.

Karthik
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:15:48 EST
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: Patching Netware 3.11 - Which Patches?

FORWARDED MESSAGE from  (MAIL @ CSERVE
  > {INTERNET:CSVCDAH%NNOMED.BITNET@suvm.acs.syr.EDU}) at 12/17/92 1:34 PM
  > From: CSVCDAH%NNOMED.BITNET@suvm.acs.syr.EDU
  > Subject:      Re: Patching Netware 3.11 - Which Patches?
  >
  >
  >   May I add to this question ...?  When I get the 311pt9 disk, is that
  >   all patches up to the date the disk was issued, or do I also have to
  >   look at pt1-pt8. (ie is pt9 inclusive of all previous patches?)...
  >
***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 12/17/92 4:38 PM
The newer patches supercede the previous releases of the patch set.

Often times, when going from one patch release to another, you will find
that particular patches were updated, or in some cases dropped.

For example, the current patch release is 311PTB.ZIP, and the only
difference between it and 311PTA.ZIP is that RPLENFIX.NLM was removed from
the patch kit, because RPLENFIX has a problem that abends servers when the
new PBURST.NLM v2.0 is loaded.

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From: DLH@PMAIL.GEN.NZ (David Harris)
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Subject: Re: Get errors on NW 3.11 server - Severity=0 detected on N
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:21:47 GMT
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>    we get messages at our NOVELL 3.11 server, when we start our
>    DBASE program. The messages at the server console have the
>    following contents :
>
>      Severity=0 detected on NE2100, May cabel disconnected

My guess would be a termination or wire problem which only manifests
itself under load. Try noting the error counts one evening then look at
them the next morning. If they have gone up slightly under light load,
then start looking over your wire map. We've had termination problems
(flakey terminators, or unearthed terminators on very long strands)
which have produced problems like this.

Cheers!

-- David --

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From: bill@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Bill Swartz)
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Subject: SMODE changes going bye-bye
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:21:15 GMT
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  I have a server setup with the PRINTCON.DAT files stored in PUBLIC, and have
  set the SMODE on CAPTURE et al.  to 5 so that everyone can share the same
  file.  However -- for some reason the SMODE on thiese files keeps changing
  back to the default of 0.  Anyone have any ideas why?  Thanks in advance!

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From: 71005.42@COMPUSERVE.COM (Dan Quigley)
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Subject: Access Server Problems
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:20:32 GMT
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I have just recently upgraded my Compaq 486/25 Access Server from v1.01
to v1.22.  Also, I created from scratch another Compaq 486/33M Access v1.22.
Both servers are using US Robotics HST's, Codex 2171 (Limited Distance Modem)
and the Compaq 486/33M also has US Robotics HST with ASL.  The Compaq 486/25
has 2 WNIM Z-80's and the Compaq 486/33M has 2 WNIM+'s. The remote worksations
are all using Onlan/PC v1.0.  Now, mind you, the v1.01 Access has been quite
stable prior to upgrading.  The following has been occuring.

    o  486/25 has locked up once.

    o  Printing on either Access Server has caused print jobs printing
       at the remote end to become garbled and pages missing.

    o  486/25 has taken the modems offline with the message "Initialization
       Failed" for no apparent reason.  This has occured on one WNIM and on
       the other WNIM at a different time.

    o  Recieved the message "Unable to establish a network connection".

    o  Recieve the message "Please Wait" and cannot connect for no apparent
       reason.

Has anyone out there experienced these problems and how did they resolve them.
Novell tech support tells me there are no know problems with using v1.0 of
Onlan/PC.  I also read throght PTF 341 and nothing is jumping out at me.


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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: ODI Driver for Everex Speedlink Card 
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:48:51 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.921218152852.256@cannes.barclays.co.uk> Novell writes:

   I am urgently after an ODI driver for the Everex Speedlink MCA
   Ethernet Card.

In case your search for an ODI driver comes up short, I might have a
packet driver for that board.  It'll take a little bit of work to
verify that, so I'll need you to be a customer.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:38:08 EST
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      RE: Novell interrupt in Win Standard Mode

FORWARDED MESSAGE from Lim Chieng Fai (MAIL @ CSERVE
LF> {INTERNET:lchiengf@TRANTOR.DSO.GOV.SG}) at 12/16/92 8:11 AM
LF>
LF> I am using Novell 3.11 and is writing a Windows application that
LF> generates novell interrupts. In particular, I am using interrupts E3h
LF> 15h and then E3h 16h to get the current login name. My program runs
LF> fine on Win3.1 in 386-enhanced mode. However, when I run Win3.1 in
LF> Standard Mode, the same program hangs.
LF>
LF> Any advice ?
***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 12/16/92 8:41 PM
Sure...

You can't call Int 21h for any of the NetWare APIs from Windows Standard
mode.

You need to call the NetWareRequest() function, which you export from
NETWARE.DRV.

Just define a prototype for the function...something like this:

extern long FAR PASCAL NetWareRequest (void);

And, in your DEF file, explain where to import the function from:

IMPORTS         NETWARE.NETWAREREQUEST

Then, you can just call NetWareRequest() anywhere that you would have used
Int 21h for a NetWare API.  Here's a code fragment that I use to simplify
this.

BYTE NetWareCall (BYTE function_no, LPSTR request_buffer,
 LPSTR reply_buffer) {

   BYTE rc;

   ASM  push ds
   ASM  push es
   ASM  mov  ah,function_no
   ASM  lds  si,request_buffer
   ASM  les  di,reply_buffer
   NetWareRequest ();
   ASM  pop  es
   ASM  pop  ds
   ASM  mov  rc,al

   return (rc);

}

Have fun...

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From:         Ros Whysall <ECL6ROS@LUCS-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: QUESTIONS FOR THE OLD WISE ONES!!

Hi everyone

I claim to be neither too old, nor too wise, but wise to these ones -

Donald Viar writes -

> I AM LOADING
> RPRINTER AND SETTING UP AN IBM PROPRINTER TO SERVICE MY QUE.  THE PRINTER
> WILL RECEIVE DATA BUT WILL PRINT AT 1 LETTER PER EVERY THIRTY SECONDS IF
> THE PRINT REQUEST COMES FROM ANOTHER WORKSTATION.  IF THE REQUEST COMES FROM
> THE WORKSTATION WHERE THE PRINTER IS CONNECTED, THE PRINT SPEED IS NORMAL.
> I HAVE OTHER PRINTERS (OKIDATA'S) THAT PRINT FINE UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS.

Ah, our beloved RPRINTER, the answer to this one is either try
different interrupts, or more likely, try different makes and spec
of PCs, or most likely try different software!  Printing directly
from the workstation is fine so there is nothing wrong with the
ports on the workstation.  Netware insists on using interrupts, and
in my experience, whatever interrupt you choose from the pconsole
menu, makes no difference, on some types of PC it will never work.
We use different software, Printer Assist from Fresh Technologies,
generally good, but main problem is that it doesn't always recognise
a printer is powered off and can send jobs into a black hole.

> **** IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOAD RPRINTER AND CAPTURE HIGH???
>
Pass, I don't use QEMM

>
> **** IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE MENU UTILITY, OR WILL I SCREW
> SOMETHING UP IF I CONTINUE TO RUN THE OLD MENU???  IS THERE A MENU OUT THERE
> THAT WILL USE EVEN LESS MEMORY???

Yes, try Dougmenu.  There is a list you can join, send a message to
listserv@nic.rhij.nl  You can also get it from an ftp site somewhere,
sorry I can't remember where, but not doubt someone else will inform.

Ros


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From:         Carl Sockwell <CARL@ALSTON.CBA.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Copuserve cost

I am about to leave my university and my internet access.  Is there
anyone that subscribes to the novell list from CompuServe? I want to
know about what the monthly cost is to receive the mail for novell.
Please responed to me directly.


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From:         "Stephen B. Hathaway" <shathaway@[192.33.12.1]>
Subject:      RE: Netware User License Upgrade

In Message Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:58:54 -0800,
  Henry Unger <hunger@HITECH.COM> writes:

>All you have to do to upgrade from 5-user to 20-user is to copy the new
>server.exe and reboot the server!

Can this be done(or something like this) in a 2.2 server?

TIA
Stephen B. Hathaway, Laboratory Manager, School of Natural Science
Hampshire College, Amherst, MA  01001
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From:         S87405095@HSEPM1.HSE.NL
Subject:      re: forget supervisor password

 hello,

 find burglar.nlm, copy it to floppy and load it in your server by issuing the
 load a:burglar command on the console then when burglar asks for a new supervis
   or
 password give one in, that's it itse simple.

 jan verhoeven   s87405095@hse.nl

 ps: if you can't find the burglar.nlm send me a mail and i will check my
 disks for it. and send it to you uuencoded.
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From: mike@childsoc.demon.co.uk (Michael Bernardi)
Subject: Re: AIX to Netware Printing 
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:33:19 +0000

Also you will need to read the Netware NFS textfile (reaad.me I think) which
gives specifinc info on using Netware NFS and AIX
                Mike
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