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From: sra20@tony.ccc.amdahl.com (Steven Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: info on bicycle rental in Atlanta
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:37:17 GMT
Reply-To: stevena@cs.berkeley.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: UC Berkeley, CS Dept.

Does anyone know a place where I can rent a bicycle in Atlanta
for 4-5 days next month.  The bike need merely be functional--
it'll just be providing short distance transportation.  I'd
also be willing to buy a cheap used one if I had some assurance
of selling it back at the end of the week.  (Or perhaps someone
reading this from Atlanta would be willing to lend me an old
3-speed :) .)

I suppose e-mail would be most appropriate for any replies,
but if there's interest, I'll summarize.

Thanks for any leads.

  Steven
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Steven Alexander
CS grad student &                               stevena@cs.berkeley.edu
non-practicing lawyer extraordinaire
{I'm really good at not practicing}
temporarily in the real world at:          sra20@anagram.ras.amdahl.com
(but preferring the Berkeley address)
From: iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
Subject: Re: Time for rec.bicycles.racer?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:34:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.205619.29498@rice.edu> shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry) writes:
>It is?
>Where?  Has everybody seen this except us? ... or me?
>Perhaps it needs to be reposted, or, at least, some
>kind soul could send me a copy.

I sent Sam a copy, and for those of you who missed it, it's available
in the archives on draco.acs.uci.edu in pub/rec.bicycles/cfv.ann.  I
can't mail out any more copies, but if you look in the FAQ, you'll see
how to get a copy mailed to you if you can't use ftp.


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From: lars@craycos.com (Ron Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Spontaneous blow-outs
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:52:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <BrxF7L.Dv4@cs.psu.edu> pan@math.psu.edu (Garth Payne) writes:
>I just bought new tires and rims, but I haven't been able to use them since  
>the tire blows out before I can get the wheel back on the bike.  The rims are 
>Campy Omega clinchers (700 x 25c) and the tires are Michelin Hi-Lite Super 
>Comp HD (700 x23c).  The tire was partially off the rim after each of two blow- 
>outs before I gave up and decided to post a plea for help, so I thought the 
>tire might be popping off the rim and causing the tube to explode. The tubes
>are Nashbar butyl: "small presta tube, fits 700x23,25c."

If the blowout appears as though the tube has been split length wise
for some distance (my first one was about 6" long), it sounds like you
are not properly seating the tube inside the tire.  If the tube is
pinched between the tire and the rim, it will blow out when you put
high preassure in to it.  (I speak from personal experience)

Having done this to a couple tubes, I developed the following method:

1. Assemble tire, tube and rim.  Label on the tire should be on the
freewheel side of the rim, with the label lined up with the valve
stem.  This is not for aesthetics.  It provides a reference point when
you do have a blow-out for finding sharp items sticking through the
tire casing before they cause a blowout in your replacement tube.

2. Inflate tube partially (30-40psi).  Bleed most of the preassure back out of
tire.

3. Work your way around both sides of the rim, using your thumbs to
push the tire back from the rim while looking for tube pinched between
the tire and rim.  If you see any tube, work the tire/tube in that area
with your thumbs until the tube is properly seated under the tire.
Hard to explain, if you could only see my thumbs moving!!!

4. Repeat 2 and 3 until tube is seated.

5. Inflate tire to desired preassure.

6. Ride bike.

>shallow and leaving less room for the tire.  The rim strip is a Velox Fond de 
>Jante (or something like that).  

The Velox rim tape is great.  I use to use a plastic rim tape but
discovered high preassure pushed it far enough into the spoke holes to
fracture the rim tape length wise and create a sharp edge on the tape
that actually sliced the tube.

lars
-- 
Ron Larson                       |   If pro is the opposite of con,
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From: gs7413@noah.sbc.com (Bert Soto)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Greg L. and TdF helment usage
Summary: ITT
Keywords: helmet (sp, sorry) not a flame war please!!!!
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:09:34 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell - Arkansas

In article <1992Jul21.122835.540@b15.b15.ingr.com>, saj@b15.b15.ingr.com (Steve Jernigan) writes:
> Does anyone know why Greg Lemond was not wearing a helmet in a large number
> of his last stages of this years TdF?  In the first major ITT, he seemed
> to be the only contender to not be wearing a helmet.  Even if we forget the
> saftey issue, what about aerodynamics?  Greg is known as a detail man, so
> why did he go less-aero than his co-riders? I also saw Chiapucci (sp?) wearing
> a helmet more often than most.  It seems a strange turn of events.  Does
> anyone have any insight into this?

I had similar thoughts on LeMond's time trial.  First, he was not wearing a 
helmet, as you  mentioned.  Second, he was not on a time trialing bike like 
the majority of the riders were.  His affinity toward the latest technology 
was, for some reason, ignored (other than the aerobars) in the first ITT.

If he did have a secret weapon to unveil in the second ITT, I guess I can 
see the strategy in this but beyond that, I can't see why a rider would put 
himself at a disadvantage for no reason.
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From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Cleaning Water Bottles
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:25:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul24.115714.13401@linus.mitre.org> GKLEIN@MITRE.ORG (Gary L. Klein) writes:
>I prefer hydrogen peroxide (as sold in markets and pharmacies in weak 
>(3%?) solution as an antiseptic cleanser).  It is not as toxic as chlorine 
>(you can use it as a mouthwash afterall), it does the job, and it doesn't 
>leave that chlorine smell.

Chlorine Bleach kills _everything_. All bateria, all viruses -- everything.

It doesn't work immediately of course. What I do is to put a couple of
teaspoons full in a bottle of hot water and close the cap. I spray a
little out of the top. I then leave it overnight. The next day I rinse
the bottle out with warm water and then refill it with hot water and
leave that another night, drain and let dry. There is then no odor or
taste of any sort. 

It only takes a couple of minutes and the only negative is that you
need a couple of sets of water bottles. I can handle that. And I 
don't want any replay of the stomache problems from warm water
bateria blooms (try stopping behind every bush!)

BTW, How's the weather up there this year Gary? What's the riding 
like around, say, Stevens Pass?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: RONEAL@lexmark.com
Subject: Re: CHEAP, SAFE tires????
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:11:52 GMT

In article <9240@alvin.mcnc.org>
ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek) writes:
 
>
>I had already decided not to buy any more Performance  basic tires
>because of sidewall cuts, but one was still on the bike.  Coming down a
>rather steep hill Sun, a pedestrian caused a hurried brake application,
>locking up the rear wheel, which instantly flatted, after wearing
>through the rubber, cord and tube.   Is this a normal disaster I just
>haven't read about yet?
>
>Is there an inexpensive, heavy, cheap tire  for someone who wants
>it to last at least a couple low mileage years?   Something in a
>27x1 1/4?
 
I have a pair of Panaracer Tour Guards that I bought from Nashbar for $7.90
(on sale, of course).  They're kevlar-belted and I love em.  They're
27 x 1 1/8, though were available in 1 1/4 as well.  Nashbar also carries
their own kevlar-belted 27 x 1 1/4 or 27 x 1 1/8 tires too, though I think
they are more like $12 or so each.  My brother has a pair of them, though
he only has a couple of hundred miles on them, so the opinions are still out.
Your mileage may vary...
 
 
Randy O'Neal  RONEAL@lexmark.com     Printer Attach Software Development
                                     Lexmark International, Inc.
-- Weinberg's Law --                 Lexington, Ky.
'If builders built buildings like
 programmers wrote programs, then                                     __o
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 along would destroy civilization.'   of my employer... just mine."  O/ O
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From: pan@math.psu.edu (Garth Payne)
Subject: Spontaneous blow-outs
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Pennsylvania State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:02:09 GMT

I just bought new tires and rims, but I haven't been able to use them since  
the tire blows out before I can get the wheel back on the bike.  The rims are 
Campy Omega clinchers (700 x 25c) and the tires are Michelin Hi-Lite Super 
Comp HD (700 x23c).  The tire was partially off the rim after each of two blow- 
outs before I gave up and decided to post a plea for help, so I thought the 
tire might be popping off the rim and causing the tube to explode. The tubes
are Nashbar butyl: "small presta tube, fits 700x23,25c."

I had the impression the tire and rim were compatible, but tire and rim sizes
are mysterious to me, so maybe I goofed.  For what it's worth, the tire seems to
be a tight fit.  Another possibility is that the rim strip is two wide.
It touches both sides of the rim, effectively making the rim more
shallow and leaving less room for the tire.  The rim strip is a Velox Fond de 
Jante (or something like that).  

I'm trying to leave for a vacation (with bike) so I am desperate.

Thanks for your attention.

Garth Payne
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: US Media Coverage [ was Re: LEMOND - No More!]In article <1992Jul21.201331.5018@javelin.sim.es.com>, bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer) writes:
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:48:44 GMT
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble

|> Bryan Jones <BEJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

|> > You don't here people like Roche or Chiapucci complaining.
|> 
|> I've only seen a typical American TV "sound bite" (or is that byte or
|> bight) of a Lemond interview; 

This seems to be typical of all American T.V. Coverage of anything.

French T.V. interviewed Chiapucci, Roche and Hampsten quite a lot over the
last few days.  Chiapucci was just pleased to win in Sestriere and had no
complaints.  Roche was asked about his health problems and said that he had
"a long term problem with his back, but that's well known"  and that he thought
the remaining 2 days in the Alpes would be tough, he also made the point that
he wasn't the teams no 1. rider and would have to do some work on his own.
Hampsten said that he didn't like taking the initiative in races and just followed the break on the Crois de Fer - he then didn't attack but rather wound
up the pace a little to see if the rest would crack.

Lemond seemed to continually hark back to the Trucker's strike, the strike
on Air Inter and the Train delays - although who can blame him, I expect he
had a lousy start to this years tour.

David.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: ams@watson.ibm.com (Aaron Shtromas)
Subject: Missing subject header
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:06:23 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Jul30.054512.24684@panix.com>, paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
|> 
|>  NBC must have deliberately "conspired" to add extremely annoying "color" to
|> their coverage. Their motive, of course, to get viewers to spend the money
|> for the triplecast.
|> 
|>  The Olympics occur once every four years. NBC buys the right to show the
|> events on tv. Instead of showing mostly sport, they add music videos, scripted
|> pseduo docu-dramas, stories of personal tragedies of athletes, and my favorite
|> to hate (only because it is their newest attrocity), a 5+ minute film of the
|> architect/artist Antoni Gaudi. The film (tolerable) was followed by the "sports"
|> commentators "critiquing" the artist.

i thought the story on gaudi was superior to everything else nbc has done.
agreed, the nbc'ers should have kept their opinions of him off the air.
wouldn't hurt if they kept *all* their opinions to themselves.

|> 
|>  Right now the idiots on nbc are going "out on the town" checking out the
|> Broadway of Barcellona. I cannot beleive this! As I write this they keep on 
|> compounding the tragedy. Over and over.
|> 
|>  Once in four years and they insult us with this crap.
|> 
|>  The tv listing said there will be cycling on. Still waiting................
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> *******************************************************************
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|> brooklyn, ny, usa                         Design & Consultation
|> *********************************************************************

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From: feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Helmet Safety: any reliable evidence?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:41:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Several Canadian provinces seem about to require bicyclists to wear
approved helmets.  Aside from the civil liberties issues, the idea may
be a good one -- certainly retailers will like it -- but I'd welcome
something like scientific evidence that helmet wearing really does
reduce death or serious injury.  So far the only non-anecdotal
evidence I've encountered related exclusively to small kids.

Anyone have, or know where I might otherwise find, statistical or
other hard data on bicycle helmet safety?
-- 
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Dept. of Philosophy                  | FAX:     (204) 261-0021
University of Manitoba               | Voice:   (204) 474-9136
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: MTB Touring (was: Touring bicycles -- an extict breed?)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 01:34:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

I don't think there is anything wrong with showing that there
is a bike for every conceivable purpose. Youleft out the freight
and mail carriers, the police bikes, the army bikes and many more.

Real observed trials bikes are built on a custom basis and I'm
not too suprised that the picture wasn't too helpful.

You have to see really good observed trials riders to believe
what they're doing is possible. Any one of them can easily ride
a bike over a standard full sized american car. They can jump up
on top of rocks and balance for long periods of time while doing
other things, like looking at the next position they want to jump
to. Really incredable stuff.

Maybe the book got carried away and was confuing rather than informing
about the types of bikes.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: jpringle@den.mmc.com (James E. Pringle)
Subject: Replacement Cogs for Shimano Uniglide Cassettes
Originator: jpringle@everest
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Distribution: co
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:31:08 GMT


Does anyone know if it is possible to buy replacement cogs for
a Shimano 600 Ultegra Uniglide (not Hyperglide) cassette, or am I
forced to buy an entire cassette?  

I've called several local shops who have recommended buying a new
cassette.  I even called "Colorado Cyclist" but they don't carry any 
non-hyperglide Shimano cassettes.

I am looking for a "non locking" 13 cog.  My cassette is currently 
	12-14-15-17-19-21-24
and I was wanting the option of removing the 24 and inserting the 13 to get a 
	12-13-14-15-17-18-21.

It seems to me that the whole point of a cassette system would
be that you can create your own gear setups without having to
buy a new cassette everytime you want to change gearing.

Is it just a matter of finding the right bike shop (Denver/Boulder area),
or should I breakdown and buy a new cassette?

Thanks for the help.
Jim
From: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Tdf - 11th Stage
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:35:39 GMT
Reply-To: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
Distribution: world
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu (Jeff E Mandel) writes:
> >Has LeMond ever had the cojones to break away like this, or has he ALWAYS
> >been the tired, patient, (boring) strategist.

In 1990, on the St. Etienne stage, a sleeper leg with moderate but
sustained climbs entering the Massif Central, Lemond led an unexpected
break away at the beginning of the climb and gained significant time
on that stage as a result.  I don't believe he won the stage, but he
clearly instigated the break away.  It was a brilliant tactical move.

Dennis
From: sjk@strl.labs.tek.com (Steven King)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: LeMond is officially gone.
Keywords: ha-ha-ha
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:39:48 GMT
Reply-To: sjk@strl.labs.tek.com (Steven King)
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: Software Technology Research Lab, Tektronix, Inc.

In article <1992Jul21.100156.9714@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, as789@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Francisco J. Diaz) writes:

|> 
|> Ok Mr LoudMouth, since you are talking sooo much, I would like to
|> see you go all the way up that climb then I'll go right behind...
|> I just hope that Andy (Hampsten not Hamster!) gets the place he
|> deserves in the podium and makes you eat your words! (You called
|> him a fake didn't you?) And it better drop it here because I know
|> this is not the place to do this...If you want to talk to me 
|> maybe we can send E-Mails...

Francisco (and anyone others who didn't read the ENTIRE post),

It was a joke!  I was poking fun at people such as ftgcdj@vax.oxford.ac.uk:

|> Well, Greg Lemond has quit the Tour, and I for one will not miss him. I was
|> getting a bit fed up with all his whinging about not feeling to good on one
|> day, then saying he felt great the next (the day he and Chiapucci stole just
|> over a minute). You don't here people like Roche or Chiapucci complaining.

|> As for Zulle retiring because he is to young: that is sensible. The lad is only
|> 24 and not at his physical peak as far as strength goes. The mountains would
|> have finished him, both mentally and physically.

(Yes, and Greg only placed third when he was 24 years of age.  I'd say that
Zulle is the wimp.)

Anyway, it was all a joke -- including the mis-spelling of Hampsten's name.
Just poking some fun at the annual crop of Lemond bashers!  And no, I don't
think Andy is a fake.  A little under-confident, yes.  A fake, never.

I, for one, have a large framed poster of Lemond making the last turn for
home on the Champs-Ellyses in the 89' tour.  What a spine-tingler that
TT was!  He definitely rose into the realm of the greats with that ride.

Steven (sjk@strl.labs.tek.com)

"Sometimes if you have a cappuccino and then try again it will work OK."
(Dr. Brian Reid)  "Sometimes one cappuccino isn't enough." (Marcus Ranum)
"A double vanilla latte always works."  (Me)
From: varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Signalling right turns
Date: 29 Jul 1992 16:00:57 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: bovina.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Jul29.200551.21348@cas.org> kxh26@cas.org (Kenneth D. Huffman) writes:
>rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis) wrote this about Signalling right turns:
>>There is a push in this province (Alberta) to change the right turn 
>>hand signal from one done with the left hand pointing upward with 
>>the arm bent at the elbow to a right turn hand signal done with the 
>>right hand pointed straight out to the right.  I would like to know 
>>which is the legally recognized right turn hand signal in your area.

>I believe the bent left arm is preferred.

[Explanation of how he signals, and correct attribution of origin to
 motorists before electric turn signals being able to reach only one
 window.]

Wonderful use of the passive voice.  It leaves us with the unanswerable
questions of who it is preferred by and for what reasons, if any.

In Texas, and I think in most US jurisdictions, both signals are allowed.
I'm old enough to have been taught the hand signals in Driver's Training.
Most people these days aren't taught them.  Such people may not find it
at all obvious that raising the arm and opening the palm toward the front 
is a right-turn signal.  Pointing to the right with the right arm seems
much more natural.  At least there's a chance the signal will be
understood.  I'm less sure why motorists need to know that I'm turning
from the right side of one street to the right side of another, but I
still give the signal.

-- Don Varvel (varvel@cs.utexas.edu)
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From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:32:16 GMT
	<2A73255D.3B80@telly.on.ca>

awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca (Majik) writes:
>I do think that you are nuts. There are times (emergencies.. illness etc) when
>a driver's license is essential. I do not think that you are nuts for not 
>driving every day.. or even for discouraging others.. but to purposfully 
>limit your options?? 

  So, you are going to own a car, pay for all that insurance, upkeeping
/etc/etc for that once-a-year occurance that you need it? 

To coin the phrase again: "I think you ar NUTS!" :-)

 I'm a young 24 years, and I've not yet had a case where I couln't 
'do without' a car.  Yes, when I'm 'Married with Children' <grin> things will
be different, but while I'm single I can't see the purpose of an Auto.
(except maybe to 'pick up women' - It's hard to pick them up on a cycle
to go to a bar/etc - Then again, I'll just have to marry another cyclist ;-)

>Andrew Williams

>|              ( awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca )                            | 
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