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From: boyd@phi.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.msdos,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: vi, the home row, and PC keyboards
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:25:55 GMT
Reply-To: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department

In article <1992Apr5.051847.26292@julian.uwo.ca>, crispin@csd.uwo.ca (Crispin Cowan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.012117.25191@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
>>>that takes my fingers from the home row--including mice, control-, and
>>If your keyboard doesn't have a control key on the home row, it's broken.
>
>Standard DOSy keyboard puts the control key down near the shift and alt
>keys.
>

PC keyboards can be purchased with switchable Ctr Alt CAP keys (I know, I 
just bought one).  Also, if you are using X, check out xmodmap and move 
the CTL key where it should be.  You should also be able to defeat the 
brain-dead placement of the <esc> key on most PC keyboards with this 
utility.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
From: cosc161m@menudo.uh.edu (92s07275)
Subject: URGENT: OS/multimedia papers needed as soon as possible
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:44:04 GMT

        I am writing a survey paper on "multi-structured I/O file systems that
use various techniques to provide higher data transfer rates for multimedia
applications on object-oriented distributed computing systems."  I would
appreciate it very much if anybody knows of any ftp sites for OS/multimedia
papers.  Also, if you have a copy of any of the papers (postscript format)
mentioned below or know how to contact the authors of the papers or have other
papers relating to OS/multimedia, could you please email the papers or any
information on how to obtain them or other papers to me as soon as possible.
My email address is:   cosc161m@menudo.uh.edu


I already have the three papers at the "icsi-ftp.Berkeley.EDU" site in the
directory "pub/dash".
********

        In particular, I am looking for the following papers:



"Designing file systems for digital audio and video"

Authors: P. Venkat Rangan & Harrick M. Vin
DEPTCSE., Univ. of California, San Diego
Proceedings of the 13th Symposium on Operating System Principles
ACM. SIGOPS 13 Oct. 1991



"Support for Continuous Media in the DASH systems"

Authors: David P. Anderson, Shin-Yuan Tzou & Robert Wahbe
Proc. 10th International Conference on Distributed Computing Systems
Paris, May 28-June 1, 1990.
IEEE



"Distributed processing of multimedia information"

Authors: E. Moeller, A. Schller & G. Shunmann
Proc. 10th International Conference on Distributed Computing Systems
Paris, May 28-June 1, 1990.
IEEE.

***************

      I am also trying to find any papers from the: 
Proceedings of the International Conference on Multimedia Information Systems,
Singapore, Jan. 1991.


"A Variable Rate Strategy for Retrieving Audio Data From Secondary Storage"

Authors: A. Park & P. English
Proceedings of the International Conference on Multimedia Information Systems,
Singapore, Jan. 1991, 135-146.



"Abstractions for Continuous Media in a Network Window System"

Authors: D.P. Anderson, R. Govindan and G. Homsy
Proceedings of the International Conference on Multimedia Information Systems,
Singapore, Jan. 1991.


*************
        And finally,


"A Testbed For Managing Digital Video and Audio Storage"

Authors: P.V. Rangan, W.A. Burkard, R.W. Bowdidge, H.M. Vin, H.W. Lindwall
         K. Chan, I.A. Aaberg, L.M Yamamoto & I.G. Harris
Proceedings of the 1991 Summer USENIX Conference, Nashville, TN, June 10-14,
1991, 199-208.



"Principles of Delay Sensitive Multi-media Data Storage and Retrieval"

Authors: J. Gemmell & S. Christodoulakis
ACM TOIS (to appear), 1991.

****************************************************************************
Rahul Aggarwal, Graduate Student at the University of Houston.

"Report Due at the end of this month, so PLEASE email replies soon"

                 !!!Resources at library are next to nothing!!!
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From: ganesan@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Ravikanth Ganesan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: SUN OS Reference
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:56:07 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: ganesan@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU

Subject: Referece request on SUN OS


I am a grad student and I have chosen SUN OS to give a term presentation on
the issues of Process Scheduling, Process Migration and Deadlock Detection.
Apart from the SUN Networkin Manual I have drawn a blank in locating informationon the above issues.

I am not looking for code. I am interested in the policy/mechanism of above
issues. (If you could provide info about an ftp site where I could get such
documentation it would greatly help me to complete this assignment). Please
let me know asap.

Ravi
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Newsgroups: comp.os.misc,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.misc,uk.general,eunet.general,can.general,bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.dcom.telecom,alt.cobol
Subject: mailing list about Stratus computers
Summary: how to subscribe
Keywords: Stratus, fault-tolerant, IBM, Olivetti, list, mail
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:44:06 GMT
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From: cseric@knuth.mtsu.edu (Mr. Eric Buckner)
Subject: Amiga MINIX
Summary: Does the newest version of AmigaMINIX Support HD's
Keywords: Minix, Amiga Harddrive
Organization: Dept. of CS, Middle TN State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 04:56:05 GMT

I realize that this is probably a FAQ, but since I do not get on the NET
much anymore I will take my chances.  

At the beginning of last year I saw the DEMO version of MINIX for the
Amiga.  I was impressed to say the least.  Then I learned that the
version that I was looking at did not support a harddrive.  Well at the
time I did not own a hard drive, but having worked with UNIX for a
number of years, I saw the need for a hard drive if one planned on
running any form of UNIX.  Well now I hear that there is a new release
of MINIX for the Amiga and am very curious if it now has hard drive 
support and if it does for which hard drive controllers.  I have a
Dataflyer + 100 Meg HD on my Amiga and would love to run MINIX since I 
am a UNIX dude at heart.  If anyone has any information for me then
please email it to me.  Thanks in advance.


Eric Buckner
Senior Programmer Analyst
Ingram Periodicals, Inc.

knuth!cseric     or     cseric@knuth

Thanks again for the information..
From: kap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu (Dietrich Kappe)
Subject: Compiling MacMinix with THINK_C
Organization: Center for Population Economics
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:16:11 GMT

Has anyone tried rebuilding MacMinix v1.5.10.7 (or any version for that matter)
with Think C? Do the #ifdef's for Think C still do the trick? How to compile the 
.s files (hmm, it can't be that simple)? Turn off the precompiled headers? Compile
the CODE segs first and stick them in the .rsrc file?

Most importantly, which gives you better code, Think C or
ACK? (Not obvious to me, given the different binary interfaces, etc.)

Just a pointer in the right direction would be great

--

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kap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu
Center for Population Economics
From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (michael a irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: termcap
Summary: I use the BSD termcap
Keywords: uunet BSD termcap
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:29:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: random.1992Apr16.222944.27712
Distribution: comp
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.


	Carl;

   I got the termcap library source from BSD via anonymous FTP off of 
ftp.uu.net:/systems/unix/bsd-sources/somethig-or-other. This compiles
and runs fin under v1.6.16 & the ANSI-C compiler. I didn't try the old
compiler. Give it a try, it's a full termcap implimentation.

					Mike Irons
				mirons@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: chinkao@boole.seas.ucla.edu (Chin C. Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: whereis.c
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:54:45 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

We use Minix 1.5 on IBM ATs here at UCLA for an Operating Systems course.
I'm trying to write a program that is functionally similar to the whereis
program that comes with Minix 1.5.  I thought I could take a look at the
source for whereis but apparently, it is not in /usr/src/commands in a
archive or compressed.  I was wondering if Minix had the source for whereis
and if it is public domain, if someone could mail it to me.  Thanks.


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From: mwm40@tony.ccc.amdahl.com (Marcelo W Mourier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: AST's New Book...
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:27:26 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I haven't been reading the news group lately, so I'm not sure if this has
already been announced: the prolific AST has a _new_ book on Operating
Systems out there.  If I remember correctly the title is "Modern Operating
Systems", the cover is blue, and has a drawing of a bunch of starving
phylosophers fighting for some spaghetti  :-)

The book is divided in two parts; Part I describes "conventional" OS's, and its
contents are pretty much the same material found in Minix's book, with the
addition of a couple of case studies.  The juicy part is Part II, where he
focuses on distributed OS's, with Amoeba and Mach as case studies.

With this one, the number of up-to-date books from AST is four: Computer
Architecture, Computer Networks, Operating Systems: Design and Implementation,
and Modern Operating Systems.  No doubt Suzanne must be really patient  :-)

----
Marcelo Mouirer
From: mdmec@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Pepe Coll)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Decrypt crypt()
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:43:59 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.minix
Organization: Polytechnic of Central London

Hello to all you MINIX'ers,

I am in the process of writing my final project report which happens to be
titled "Minix Security". About a year ago there was a small discussion on the
weakness of the standard MINIX 1.5 crypt() function. Various Usenet readers
claimed it was breakable (reversible ?) and went on to post various patches
which are supposed to strengthen the encryption algorithm. 
	
However, I still haven't come across the reversed algorithm, so I would
like to hear from all those who claim crypt() is breakable and for them to
produce a reversed algorithm which works something like :

printf("%s\n", decrypt (crypt("WORD","AA")) );  --> should print "WORD"
 
Thanks in advance to all and any replies,

PEPE (J.Coll)

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From: Tommi.Utriainen@f841.n220.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Tommi Utriainen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: I tested minix once..
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:51:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:220/841 - Hackers' Cave, Tuusula

I tested Minix (1.3?) in one computer, and when system has booted up, it 
asked "Login:", I didn't know any user-name, so what should I do?
I think that Minix was just installed to that computer, and there were not 
any users, how can I create one?

T. ToMpPa  
 
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From: jonathan@ukmug.uk.mugnet.org (Jonathan Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: %x only upper case
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:36:26 GMT
Organization: MUGNET UK Backbone (UKMUG)

On my out-of-the-box PH 1.5, whenever I use %x in printf/fprintf/sprintf,
I always get the hex letter digits in upper case, rather than lower.
Can anyone tell me why ... or how I can change this, since it is rather
annoying in some contexts.

Jonathan
From: tyrone@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (tyrone.shiu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Need Help to install MINIX with system running MSDOS 5.0
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:05:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T


Hi:

Over the weekend, I try to run the MINIX demo disk (PC version).
It all went quite well, it boots up nicely on my 386/25 with 180MB IDE drive.
In the reference maual of the demo disk, it mentioned MINIX can be installed
onto the hard disk but need an unused partition.  I am currently
running MSDOS 5.0 with 2 partitions, 70 MB primary and 80 MB extended.
According to the MSDOS 5.0 documentation, you can ONLY have two partitions.
I would like to install MINIX on the remaining 30 MB.

Is anyone out there has successfully install MINIX with MSDOS 5.0
running already?  What is the procedure or software that is needed to create
another partition.  This will influence whether I will buy MINIX at all.

Thank You!

-- Tyrone Shiu
From: Esa.Pulkkinen@f105.n221.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Esa Pulkkinen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: I tested minix once..
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:50:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:221/105 - SalPu, Lahti

TU>I tested Minix (1.3?) in one computer, and when system has
TU>booted up, it asked "Login:", I didn't know any user-name, so
TU>what should I do?
TU>I think that Minix was just installed to that computer, and
TU>there were not any users, how can I create one?
You should test user name 'Guest'. It works at least in our school's  Xenix-system. In that name, system asks no password.... But it might  be dependent on the installation of the system.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: awoodhull@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Minix demo w/o hard disk?
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:04:54 GMT

Subj: Minix demo w/o hard disk?

I replied to a request for help from someone else, and in my reply
noted that I had found that the demo version of Minix 1.5 (PC) refuses
to proceed when it can't locate the hard disk. 

Specifically, the demo displays: "Kernel panic: Can't read partition
table of winchester 0 / Type any key to reboot"

Is there a reason for this being part of the demo, I thought  that
Minix was still supposed to be  able to run w/o hard drives?  Is there
a way to patch the demo image or to recover from or to ignore the
"panic" message that is generated?

Albert S. Woodhull  
School of Natural Science, Hampshire College, Amherst, MA 01002
413-549-4600 ext 581 (office), 413-549-4740 (home)
awoodhull@hamp.hampshire.edu, woodhull@dawn.hampshire.edu
From: dmoffatt@peach.ucs.indiana.edu (David Moffatt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: klib386 mpx386 again
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:50:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

I earlyer posted an a note asking people for these files.  When I posted 
I forgot to give my e-mail address.  So ...

If you have or know where I can find klib386 and mpx386 for minix 1.5 could 
you please drop me a note.  Thanks

dmoffatt@silver.ucs.indiana.edU
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: source for od command
From: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
Date: 5 Apr 92 22:23:36 GMT
Reply-To: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

compare it with the unix od command. Would it be legal to get just od.c from
one of you minix users? I can`t find od.c on any anonymous ftp-site.

- Jan
From: gert@targon.UUCP (Gert Kanis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: alias in Minix 1.5
Summary: try sh function instead of aliases
Keywords: alias function shell
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:46:58 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informatiesystemen BV,dep.SWZ,Postbus 29, 4130 EA Vianen,The Netherlands

In article <6711@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> chinkao@boole.seas.ucla.edu (Chin C. Kao) writes:
>Since Minix is supposed to be compatible with System V Unix, how come

Who said that ?!?
As far as I know MINIX claims to be (user level) compatible with Unix version 7
which pre-dates System V by roughly 5 years.

>there is no "alias" command?  Would anyone know how to implement the
>equivalent of an "alias" command?  Thanks.
>--
Maybe because neither Version 7 nor System V have it :-)
What I think you mean is the alias command of the Korn shell (SysV Rel 4)
or the Csh (Berkeley). Well it is not available in the Bourne shell (/bin/sh).

What comes close though are (shell) functions, you might try something like:
foo()
{ thiscommand -thatoption $*
}
which would be equivalent to
alias foo "thiscommand -thatoption"

Disclaimer: Cannot try this in the Minix sh right now.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: carlb@hardy.u.washington.edu (Carl Boernecke)
Subject: Re: alias in Minix 1.5
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:10:00 GMT

chinkao@boole.seas.ucla.edu (Chin C. Kao) writes:
>Since Minix is supposed to be compatible with System V Unix, how come
>there is no "alias" command?  Would anyone know how to implement the
>equivalent of an "alias" command?  Thanks.

Try using either "ssh" or "clam".  I believe that both support aliases,
however I only use "sh" due to is compact size.

-- Carl Boernecke (carlb@u.washington.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: etnrwi@raptus.etn.ericsson.se (Raymond A. Wiker (9482))
Subject: Re: alias in Minix 1.5
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AS
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:48:25 GMT


	Maybe this is not too bright an idea, but:

$ alias (){
> aname=$1;shift
> eval "$aname(){
> $*
> }"
> }
$ alias m 'more $*'
$ m $HOME/.Xdefaults
OpenWindows.SetInput:   followmouse
OpenWindows.WorkspaceColor:     #40a0c0
OpenWindows.WindowColor:        #cccccc
OpenWindows.IconLocation:       bottom
OpenWindows.DragRightDistance:  50

...etc...

	What this does is to define a shell function 'alias' similar
to the built-ins in csh, bash, ksh, tcsh etc. It is probably a MUCH
better idea to use the shell functions directly.

	Note: It is necessary to quote parts of the alias definitions
as in the example above. Also:

$ alias echo2nd 'echo $2'
$ echo2nd Hi there
there

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From: bls@cis.ksu.edu (Bryan L. See)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Haardt lpd package problem
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:11:32 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: harry.cis.ksu.edu

odiug@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Guido Muesch) writes:

>bls@cis.ksu.edu (Bryan L. See) writes:

>>I've installed Michael Haardt's small lpd package.  Everything seems to

>Did you really start the program lpd. This one is the most important
>part of the printer spooler package the deamon itself. You normally
>put this in /usr/lib and start it in /etc/rc by just executing 'lpd'.
>It will put itself in the background....
>Hope that helps ....

Of course, I did.  I've tried rerunning it.  Get the I'm already here
message.  So I kill it and restart.  Same problem.  Could it be dying but
leaving the lockfile so other lp* programs think it's there?  Like I
said, lsig doesn't seem to work.  It hangs.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: tyrone@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (tyrone.shiu)
Subject: Summary of responses to MINIX w/MSDOS 5.0
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:51:04 GMT


Hi:

Thank You for all those responded to my mail about MINIX 1.5 and MINIX
w/MSDOS 5.0 especially to Paul Allen and Kees J. Bot.  Here is a summary
of the responses:

1. MSDOS 5.0 allows up to 4 partitions

2. MSDOS 5.0 's FDISK comand only allows setting up to 2 partitions:
   primary and extended.  Most of the people who has more than 2 partitions
   most likely is becaue they upgraded from 4.0 to 5.0.  When upgrading to
   MSDOS 5.0, the partition info is saved.  (MSDOS 4.0 or prior allows
   creating more than 2 partitions).

3. Good news is that MINIX's full working version has a FDISK utility to 
   add more partitions provided you have enough space.

Bad news is that I can't try out whehter my Fujitsu drive will work with MINIX
before I make a decision.

Anyway, once again thanks for your input.

-- Tyrone
From: lm03_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Larry Moss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: kermit on amiga MINIX 1.5.10.2
Summary: kermit isn't working for me
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:53:27 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I am currently running Amiga MINIX 1.5.10.2.  I have not been able to get
kermit to talk to my modem.  Under 1.5.10, I was unable to even start
kermit.  With the new boot disk that I downloaded I can start kermit and
issue all sorts of commands at the kermit prompt, but after connecting,
nothing happens.  The tty, baud, and parity are all set correctly for the
modem.  The connection between the computer and modem is good - I'm using
it from Amiga OS right now.  Is there a known problem with kermit on the
amiga?  I'd dig right into the sources but I'm still running off of
floppies and I'd rather not get into something else while I'm trying to
get minix to recognize my hard drive.

I was going to ignore this problem until I could get MINIX installed on
my hard drive, but it looks like getting kermit working might make my
life a bit easier.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Larry

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