HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tosca@crispin_sun.cs.adfa.oz.au (Crispin Russell)
Subject: aus.motor sounds better
Keywords: aus.cars, aus.driving, aus.motor
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:08:22 GMT

>In response to the proposal to create a 'motoring' newsgroup for 'aus', I also
>think aus.cars is the go. aus.autos is too American, and aus.cars.driving can
>be created later to deal with drivers issues if the traffic (no pun intended)
>on aus.cars warrants it.

Paul Heuer said it all but he didn't know it.  Aus.motor sounds like a more
general but all encompassing group name from which could then perhaps grow
other groups if necessary.   This takes in driving as well as "hardware"

My 2 cents.




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Newsgroups: aus.news
From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Subject: aus.driving
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:50:58 GMT

I agree with Ian Sincalir in his proposal to newgroup aus.driving, however,
similat to Scott Fischer (scott@psy.uwa.oz.au) in his suggesting that
the name is maybe not the best.

He (Scott) suggests...

> aus.autos.tech
> aus.autos.driving
> aus.cars
> aus.cars.tech
> aus.cars.driving
> aus.student-bomb
> aus.money-pits-on-wheels :-)

Methinks cars rather than autos is more appropriate for aus, given autos
is an american term, cars is the local equiv...

I'd like to see aus.cars created, followed by aus.cars.tech and .driving
if demand is sufficient...

stuartb

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From: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: Minor bug in VMS NEWS ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:26:38 CST
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

Apologies if this is the wrong group, but it seems appropriate.  I have 
identified a small bug in VMS NEWS V6.0-3 (on our system at least).  

I have set a profile of line mode (UP & DOWN arrow keys do line editing, PF 5
& 2 do UP & DOWN pointer).  This does not work on entering News (ie UP & DOWN
arrows still do UP & DOWN pointer), but does work after an UPDATE command. 

Has anyone else observed this on VMS NEWS ?

> NEWS PROFILE for user: bennett
> 
> LINE mode - cursor keys perform line edit functions
> etc
> 
> NEWS>
> <End of Display>
> VMS News - V6.0-3 (14-Mar-1991)

Regards,

John Bennett                                   bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Xref: sparky aus.news:216 aus.aarnet:1104
From: chs@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (SILVA C)
Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.aarnet
Subject: News Disk space
Keywords: news space
Date: 19 Nov 92 07:27:36 GMT
Followup-To: aus.news
Distribution: aus
Organization: Comp. Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia



We are currently fantasising about running a full AARNET news 
feed but need someone to disabuse us of the belief that its 
within our capability so could someone please answer these questions:

1)What sort of diskspace would be required

2) Would running it on a fast Intel 486 box with a scsi hard drive
running SCO Unix be a reasonable proposition

We already have access to the campus fibre backbone
so that's not an issue.

Oh and if you have any tips on running SCO unix and its
capabilities/limitations then please feel free to throw those in.

thanks

Craig
From: robert@cs.anu.edu.au (Robert Cohen)
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: Re: News Disk space
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:50:58 +1100
Organization: Computer Science Department, ANU, Australia
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: barnard.anu.edu.au
Keywords: news space

chs@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (SILVA C) writes:
>We are currently fantasising about running a full AARNET news 
>feed but need someone to disabuse us of the belief that its 
>within our capability so could someone please answer these questions:

>1)What sort of diskspace would be required

Something around 100-150 Meg for each day of backlog you want to keep seems
to be a reasonable rule of thumb. I wouldnt recommend keeping
less than 3 days or you lose news if you dont read over 
a long weekend. Of course the news feed is always growing in size.
Doubling every two to three years or so is a fair guess.

Good luck.

Robert
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Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general
From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Followup-To: aus.news,aus.general
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:34:36 GMT

Phillip Herring (ph@cs.uow.edu.au) wrote:
: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage) writes:
: >I am reliably told that most sites will not honour an aus.* newsgroup
: >unless it is created by kre.
: 
: I have created two newsgroups (aus.books and aus.photo). Iain Sinclair
: has created a newsgroup (aus.cars). I recall Brent Curtis created
: aus.motorcycles. 
: 
: None of us are 'K.' Robert Elz, nor did we ask for his approval
: before issuing a newgroup message. The newsgroups are widely honoured.
: 
: There are two salient facts to bear in mind: one, kre cares less about
: this sort of thing than is popularly supposed; and two, most sites will
: honour any sensible newsgroup.
: 
: I'd suggest you get used to this situation.
: 
: -- Phil.

Now herein lies my problem. For the last month I've been following the
advice of my local newsadmin. I started the discussion thread, I kept a
record of who voted how, AND I'VE BEEN WASTING MY TIME?!?!?!?!?!

OK, I give up. How is it done? One slight hiccup is that there are several
interested parties in the US, Canada, Singapore and Switzerland who can't
get aus.* newsgroups. How can a news->mail feed be set up?

Kind regards to you all
David *sob*
Xref: sparky aus.news:195 aus.general:2211 soc.culture.australian:4827
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general,soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:46:43 GMT
Followup-To: aus.news,aus.general,soc.culture.australian
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

In article <1992Nov13.082213.28010@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>,
    eoliver@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Eddie Oliver) writes:

| A number of people have communicated with me also (more than on your list).
| Needless to say, they have been opponents. Don't you think your sampling
| process is somewhat biased?

Why the heck should anyone communicate with you?

| Anyway, when will you formally put it to the vote by whatever the
| approved route is for getting new aus groups set up? 

He won't, because there isn't one.

| Does it have to be done by the normal usenet rules (in which case the
| number of respondents is likely to be far below the minimum needed) or is
| there some local protocol?

Must be a newbie.  Listen, newbie, the time-honoured convention (as formally
established by Mackin/Roberts back in the dreaded aus.bizarre wars) is that
a group gets to exist if the newgroup messages outnumber the rmgroups.

-- 
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dave@esi.COM.AU                ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave
           Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general,soc.culture.australian
From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:41:41 GMT

Dave Horsfall (dave@eram.esi.COM.AU) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov13.082213.28010@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>,
:     eoliver@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Eddie Oliver) writes:
: 
: | Anyway, when will you formally put it to the vote by whatever the
: | approved route is for getting new aus groups set up? 
: 
: He won't, because there isn't one.
: 
Well, actually there is but I won't go into that now.

David Bromage
Xref: sparky aus.news:207 aus.general:2243 soc.culture.australian:4854
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general,soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:33:08 GMT
Followup-To: aus.news
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

In article <1992Nov18.054114.3492@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>,
    brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage) writes:

| Rev Dr Phil Herring (phil_herring@info-gw.uow.edu.au) wrote:
| : In article <1992Nov16.064141.3289@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> David Bromage,
| : brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
| : >Dave Horsfall (dave@eram.esi.COM.AU) wrote:
| : >: In article <1992Nov13.082213.28010@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>,
| : >:     eoliver@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Eddie Oliver) writes:
| : >: 
| : >: | Anyway, when will you formally put it to the vote by whatever the
| : >: | approved route is for getting new aus groups set up? 
| : >: 
| : >: He won't, because there isn't one.
| : >: 
| : >Well, actually there is but I won't go into that now.
| : 
| : Well, actually there isn't, but I'd like to know what you think it is,
| : anyway.
| : 
| I am reliably told that most sites will not honour an aus.* newsgroup
| unless it is created by kre.

Actually, KRE hasn't created (or caused to be created) any aus.* groups
for ages, yet groups exist.  Who's feeding you this information?

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Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general
From: ph@cs.uow.edu.au (Phillip Herring)
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:10:59 GMT

brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage) writes:
>I am reliably told that most sites will not honour an aus.* newsgroup
>unless it is created by kre.

I have created two newsgroups (aus.books and aus.photo). Iain Sinclair
has created a newsgroup (aus.cars). I recall Brent Curtis created
aus.motorcycles. 

None of us are 'K.' Robert Elz, nor did we ask for his approval
before issuing a newgroup message. The newsgroups are widely honoured.

There are two salient facts to bear in mind: one, kre cares less about
this sort of thing than is popularly supposed; and two, most sites will
honour any sensible newsgroup.

I'd suggest you get used to this situation.
-- 

-- Phil.
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Xref: sparky aus.news:202 aus.general:2227 soc.culture.australian:4835 rec.railroad:8951 rec.models.railroad:2317 rec.models.scale:411 alt.models:1372 fj.rec.rail:4472 misc.misc:3811
From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:25:57 GMT

Dave Horsfall (dave@eram.esi.COM.AU) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov18.054114.3492@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>,
:     brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage) writes:
: 
: | Rev Dr Phil Herring (phil_herring@info-gw.uow.edu.au) wrote:
: | : In article <1992Nov16.064141.3289@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> David Bromage,
: | : brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
: | : >Dave Horsfall (dave@eram.esi.COM.AU) wrote:
: | : >: In article <1992Nov13.082213.28010@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>,
: | : >:     eoliver@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Eddie Oliver) writes:
: | : >: 
: | : >: | Anyway, when will you formally put it to the vote by whatever the
: | : >: | approved route is for getting new aus groups set up? 
: | : >: 
: | : >: He won't, because there isn't one.
: | : >: 
: | : >Well, actually there is but I won't go into that now.
: | : 
: | : Well, actually there isn't, but I'd like to know what you think it is,
: | : anyway.
: | : 
: | I am reliably told that most sites will not honour an aus.* newsgroup
: | unless it is created by kre.
: 
: Actually, KRE hasn't created (or caused to be created) any aus.* groups
: for ages, yet groups exist.  Who's feeding you this information?
: 
My newsadmin. I shall have words.............

David
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: aus.cars sounds good
From: pzh@albatross.dsto.gov.au (Paul Heuer)
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:58:55 CST
Distribution: aus
Keywords: aus.cars aus.driving

In response to the proposal to create a 'motoring' newsgroup for 'aus', I also
think aus.cars is the go. aus.autos is too American, and aus.cars.driving can
be created later to deal with drivers issues if the traffic (no pun intended)
on aus.cars warrants it.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Cheers,
Paul Heuer (pzh@aeg.dsto.gov.au)

Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general,soc.culture.australian,rec.railroad,rec.models.railroad,rec.models.scale,alt.models,fj.rec.rail,misc.misc,tecc.circle.railway
From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Followup-To: aus.news,aus.general,soc.culture.australian,rec.railroad,rec.models.railroad,rec.models.scale,alt.models,fj.rec.rail,misc.misc,tecc.circle.railway
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:18:59 GMT

Eddie Oliver (eoliver@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au) wrote:
: 
: A number of people have communicated with me also (more than on your list).
: Needless to say, they have been opponents. Don't you think your sampling
: process is somewhat biased?
: 

Absolutely not. That list was compiled from all replies by mail and
followups on the various newsgroups. I would like to know why they
communicated with you and not me. YOU did not propose this newsgroup, I
did. If your correspondants indicate the true feeling out there then let
them say it to me directly, or better still in public.

I can't see what you're so worried about. If you don't want to read
aus.rail when it is created then don't, nobody's forcing you.


David Bromage
Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: aus.rail update
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:07:37 GMT

andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut) writes:

 >While we are on the subject, you can add me to the list of those
 >against the creation of this newsgroup.  

I'm not sure if an American's opinion is valid for the creation of an 
aus group. I certainly wouldn't count it. Please note that I'm not 
a rec.railroad reader and I don't care whether aus.rail is created 
or not.

 >It seems that the content
 >of this group will essentially be the same as rec.railroad.  The only 
 >difference is that of geography.

With rec.motorcycles the newsgroup was filled with US-specific 
content. Furthermore the newsgroup was impossible to follow
since it was huge. Aus.motorcycles lets me keep in contact with
the local motorcycle community and has a much better signal/noise ratio.
A much better service, I would say. Rec.rail may not have the same
problems, of course.

                          Brent.

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     Naughty.            |   School of CompSci
     Very                |   UTS
     Naughty."           |   New South Wales
Newsgroups: aus.followup,aus.politics
From: john@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Mackin)
Subject: Re: 11-11-92
Followup-To: aus.politics
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:18:03 GMT

In article <BxzuvC.H68@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU>,
	stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Kerr's Cur) writes:

[diatribe elided]

Well may we say `God save the Queen'...

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Knox's box is hard to fix.           To fix poor Knox's box for kicks.
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: peter@ncrpda.curtin.edu.au (Peter N Lewis)
Subject: Thoughts on plaza
Followup-To: aus.aarnet
Organization: NCRPDA, Curtin University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:56:39 GMT

Hi All,

Well, I think we discussed this before, but since nothing seems to have
been done, I may as well bring it up again :-)

The name archie.au is getting more and more abused as time goes on (mainly
cuz no one can remember plaza's name I expect :-).  How about adding
cname's for ftp.au and gopher.au?  (of course, they probably should be
*.aarnet.edu.au or perhaps *.aarnet.au, but thats a different matter
altogether).

Just a thought...
   Peter.

_______________________________________________________________________
Peter N Lewis <peter@ncrpda.curtin.edu.au>           Ph: +61 9 368 2055
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: davidw@its.CSIRO.AU (David Woodgate)
Subject: Leading Edge link down
Originator: davidw@steps
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:10:43 GMT


The link to Leading Edge is down, and has been since last night's
storm in Melbourne. More information as it comes to hand.

CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and Division of Mineral
Products will be unavailable while this link is down.

						davidw
From: phil@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Where is netfind in Australia?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 11:33:46 GMT
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Adelaide
Distribution: world
Reply-To: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au

I know this came up some time ago, but I forgot to save the message.  Could
someone e-mail/post where netfind is in Australia and how to access it.


Thanks,
Phil.

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From: sgreen@neumann.une.edu.au (Stephen Green)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Net access in Brisbane?
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:48:17 GMT


What possabilities of net access are there in Brisbane?
A friend is moving there and needs access and was wondering how to obtain it
there....
Any help is welcome
Thank you
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Weather Forecasts?
From: sysprgd@roads.sa.gov.au
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:09:30 CST
Organization: DEPARTMENT of ROAD TRANSPORT

Is there anywhere on AARNet where I can pick up weather forecaasts similar to 
the service provided by US National Weather Service?

Thanks,


	Mike.
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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp)
Subject: Re: Keylink Address, Help on format needed.
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:43:18 GMT


I have a Keylink address to which I would like to send mail.  I gather
that this is possible from AARNET from the preceeding discussion.  What
then would be the format to send mail to a keylink address of, say,
A.PERSON? 

Thanking you in advance to save clogging the net!

John

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Xref: sparky aus.aarnet:1105 aus.acs:71 aus.archives:210 aus.auug:329 aus.comms:447 aus.computers:432 aus.computers.amiga:1117 aus.computers.ibm-pc:706 aus.forsale:1929 aus.general:2264 aus.mac:1275 aus.mail:200 aus.news:217 aus.radio.packet:156 aus.wanted:1001
From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.acs,aus.archives,aus.auug,aus.comms,aus.computers,aus.computers.amiga,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.forsale,aus.general,aus.mac,aus.mail,aus.news,aus.radio.packet,aus.wanted
Subject: PAX - Adelaide Public Access Unix - coming soon
Date: 22 Nov 1992 22:28:36 GMT
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au


I am posting this now so that those about to disappear for their summer
vacation won't miss out when "PAX - Public Access Unix" in Adelaide,
South Australia, comes on line in 2nd or 3rd week of December. The goal
of this system is to provide access to the joys(!) of unix, email, and
usenet for those who can't normally afford it, can't convince anyone to
give it to them, or are about to loose it when they graduate or go home
for vacation, or change jobs or locations.

The phone number will be 235-9010 with 4 lines up to V32bis.

The system offers:

 - email and a full news feed (in the Australian sense of the word full)
 - source archives on a 6 CDROM multichanger and more on hard disk
 - full Unix shell access for all users (SunOS 4.1.2 on a Sparcstation 1)
 - as many shells, mail & news readers, compilers, etc. as you care to ask for
 - anonymous & privacy enhanced email & posting
 - access for a flat monthly fee with no connection time charges or limits
 - online registration by credit card
 - slip or ppp connections can be arranged

Unfortunately it doesn't offer tcpip access to AARNet (yet) due to the high
cost of this option, but the usual archie-by-mail and ftp-by-mail options
available to any email user are present.

It is not available quite yet but be patient and watch this space.

david
From: gih900@cruskit.aarnet.edu.au (Geoff Huston)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Where is netfind in Australia?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:39:35 GMT
Organization: AARNet
Distribution: world
Reply-To: G.Huston@aarnet.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.130.204.2

Phil Kernick writes:
|> I know this came up some time ago, but I forgot to save the message.  Could
|> someone e-mail/post where netfind is in Australia and how to access it.

telnet to archie.au with the username "netfind"

i.e.:

$ telnet archie.au
Connected to archie.au.
Escape character is '^]'.


SunOS UNIX (plaza.aarnet.EDU.AU)

login: netfind

=======================================================
Welcome to the University of Colorado Netfind server,
running on AARNet's archie.au, in Melbourne, Australia.
=======================================================


I think that your terminal can display 24 lines.  If this is wrong,
please enter the "Options" menu and set the correct number of lines.

Top level choices:
        1. Help
        2. Search
        3. Seed database lookup
        4. Options
        5. Quit (exit server)
--> 


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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet