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From: masuda@lachesis.rokugo.co.jp (Yoshihiro Masuda)
Newsgroups: fj.os.386bsd
Subject: Re: Tiny boot problem.
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:13:19 GMT
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From: nakashim@etl.go.jp (Hideyuki Nakashima)
Newsgroups: fj.followup
Subject: Re: Yes. Kono Iinkai
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:26:03 GMT
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From: adachin@KENYON.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE: HELP
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:34:16 GMT
Distribution: fj


	I guess I have a really short memery...I skipped something in my
username...This IS the correct one: adachin@KENYON.EDU.
From: ASH733@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE: word play
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:13:37 GMT
Distribution: fj


   Word Play contintues ....

   I don't know if this episode is a true story or not, but in
  Fu Xing, China (if such place ever exists..), the largest hotel
  in the city was forced to change its name because American
  tourists had complained that the name of the hotel, "Hotel Fuxing"
  was obscene.  Incidentally, the hotel's huge supply of china, which
  also bore the name of the hotel, were shipped to Hong Kong and
  sold to American tourists at bargain prices.

   Akiko

     If you see "ATOYOT" in your rear view mirror, someone behind you
    is driving a TOYOTA.
From: GLWARNER%SAMFORD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: senseless gaikokugo T-shaatsu
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:52:12 GMT
Distribution: fj

>I know that "senseless" English language T-shirts are common in Japan (my
>personal favorite, seen when I was last over there, was a cornucopia with
>the phrase "Flesh Fruits" plastered over a young woman's mammaries) but I
>have cringed sometimes at T-shirts or caps in the U.S. with kanji/kana all
>over them.  I wonder if it rattles the sensibilities of veterans to know that
>so many young people wear "kamikaze" T shirts without knowing it?

Or an even better one that a friend in World Languages told me about was
several elderly women returning from a tour of the orient with Kanji medallions
hanging around their neck proclaiming them to be "licensed prostitutes"!


 /++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\
!  Later        +   Systems Programmer                                 !
!  Gary Warner  +   Samford University Computer Services               !
!               +   II TIMOTHY 2:15                                    !
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From: GLWARNER%SAMFORD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Nihongo See Spot Run books wanted
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:46:00 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi -
  I am struggling terribly trying to learn the first 881 Kanji
characters.  These, I am told, would be roughly the 6th grade
reader in a Japanese school.

  My greatest difficulty is that I have no reading material that
is written at this level that would allow me to practice reading.
The only things I have are newspapers, which use considerably more
characters, most of which are in my dictionary, and literature/poetry
which uses MANY more characters, many of which are NOT in my dictionary.

  In America we grew up with readers for first and second grade children
called the "Dick and Jane" books, which had such charming stories as
"See Spot.  See Spot run.  Look, Jane.  Look at Spot.  Look at Spot run."
The point being that the handful of words that the child knows are used
in a "real" way by reading stories that use them.  Gradually new words
were added, and each story used most of the new words, as well as reinforcing
the first words.

  I don't necessarily want See Spot Run, but if anyone could recommend
some very basic reading material, or a text book that teaches Kanji
in such a fashion, I would be grateful.  My work schedule does not
allow me to attend classes at this time, although I am still hoping
to do so in the not so distant future.

Thanks very much.


 /++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\
!  Later        +   Systems Programmer                                 !
!  Gary Warner  +   Samford University Computer Services               !
!               +   II TIMOTHY 2:15                                    !
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From: REKLIN01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Request for subscription
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:22:09 GMT
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Dept. of Family Therapy and Clinical Psychpathology
Phone: 588-6055
     I would like to subscribe to your interest group.  Thank you.
     my address is REKLIN01@ULKYVM, --Rob Klinglesmith .

If you're looking for someone to just be there, chances are you
will end end up with someone who's not where you want to be.
From: fngoh@TIASIC.SC.TI.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:58:24 GMT
Distribution: fj

Please unsubscribe from your mailing list.
Thanks
francis@dadd.ti.com
From: eroche@RND.STERN.NYU.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Japanese baseball (fwd)
Date: 19 Dec 92 23:59:20 GMT
Distribution: fj

Does anyone know if there is a SUMO interest group or discussion list on the
internet?
From: 89419032%KRSNUCC1.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: jwp (kanji for Windows) word processor <free>
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:42:52 GMT
Distribution: fj

Additional info on FUNET:

Internet address is 128.214.6.100

Younghong CHO
Seoul National University, Seoul, Korea
89419032@KRSNUCC1.BITNET
From: GLWARNER%SAMFORD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Haiku Anthology
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:42:07 GMT
Distribution: fj

A while back I posted a query about starting a Haiku list, but there
was an insufficient response to start the list.  However there were
many people from THIS list that were interested, so to them I direct
this posting.

I just received (via Inter-library loan) a fabulous work that I wanted
to share with you all.  I love to read Haiku, but my knowledge of
nihongo SUCKs right now, so I have a very difficult time, even with
dictionary in hand.  The book that I just received is:

 _An Anthology of Haiku Ancient and Modern_
  Translated and annotated by Asataro Miyamori
  Published by Greenwood Press Publishers
  Westport, CT, 1970.

The book contains over 1000 Haiku, with the text in Kanji, Romanji,
and English (as Translated by Miyamori-san) and several beautiful
illustrations by Mr. Hyakusui Hirafuku.  The works are arranged
in chronological sections, the first being devoted to Basho, then
to his greatest students, and then others of that period, and similar
sections for Buson, Issa, and Shiki, with the final section being
on contemporary (as of 1930!) poets.  This clearly illustrates
the progression (or degression depending on your thoughts on the
subject) of the Haiku form of poetry.  It is interesting to see how
the students' work so complimented the master they followed, and
how other poets of that period either copied the school, or rebelled
from it.

By arranging each work in Kanji, Romanji, and English it allows the
student of nihongo to enjoy poetry that is "out of reach" at his
current level, while including the original language, which is the
sad fact about most English Haiku collections.  For this reason I
strongly recommend this book to those who find themselves in my predicament.


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!  Gary Warner  +   Samford University Computer Services               !
!               +   II TIMOTHY 2:15                                    !
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From: DMROARK%TWSUVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Nihongo Books
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:46:47 GMT
Distribution: fj


   I saw your note on the books, and have no info on that. Your address at Yoko
ta got my attention.  Do you perchance know of a Major Bradford who was the env
ironmental impact office for that area about 5 years ago.  I do not know if he
is still around,but I would like to get in touch with him.

    Dallas M. Roark, (DMRoark@TWSUVM)
From: adachin@KENYON.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE: HELP
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:27:55 GMT
Distribution: fj


	Oi, Jorge.  It's me again, Naomi...I just memorized my usrname for this
internet.  It's the following: adachin@KENYON EDU.  Got it?

                                         Naomi
From: det15wx@OSAN-EMH.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Nihongo Books
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:39:54 GMT
Distribution: fj


                   I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:      18-Dec-1992 11:33am KST
                                        From:      Maj Ken Waters
                                                   DET15WX
                                        Dept:      CC
                                        Tel No:    784-6332

TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( _NIHONGO@MITVMA.MIT.EDU )


Subject: Nihongo Books

Gary Warner (THE GAR <GLWARNER%SAMFORD.BITNET) writes:
>  I don't necessarily want See Spot Run, but if anyone could recommend
>some very basic reading material, or a text book that teaches Kanji
>in such a fashion, I would be grateful.  My work schedule does not

Gary,
   I asked similar questions here also.  There are some really fine
school workbooks that teach the kanji.  Unfortunately, they seem to be
difficult to get ahold of.  I finally found a few of them that were
discards from primary school.  They have one page per kanji and go into
the various readings, show pictures, and compounds as well.  They are
NOT available for sale.  What happens is that schoolage kids are issued
them as part of their education and then when the year is over they can
discard them or whatever.  What I've seen in bookstores is definitely
not as good and tend to be rather expensive.  I wish I could help you
more.
    Ken
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Ken Waters    USAF, Maj, Staff Weather Officer, Yokota AB, Japan (Fussa-shi)
Internet:  DET15WX@osan-emh.af.mil     or  374OSSDOW@yokota-emh.af.mil
Compuserve: 73307,131 (checked once a yr!)       N4PBY/HL9PIT/J71???
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From: attme!djlgb@ATTME.ATTMAIL.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: word play
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:57:32 GMT
Distribution: fj

Re: TOYOTA/ATOYOT
Here in texas some folk paint out the TO..TA to match the color of
their truck, so all you can see is YO.   YO is a good macho way to say
hello, and hides the embarrasment of having bought Japanese.
From: REINECKE%UKANVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: word play
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:03:04 GMT
Distribution: fj


  One of the best ones I have heard of was the problem Chrysler
had when it started selling cars in China.  Depending on how
the company name is said, it can mean "to die a tortuous death".

Coca Cola had a problem also.  Apparently, if said correctly/
incorrectly it could mean "bite the wax turtle.

C. Reinecke
From: adachin@KENYON.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE: HELP
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:31:07 GMT
Distribution: fj


	Hi, Jorge!  Although the subject of this e-mail says, "re:help" that's
not the reason I'm sending you this.  Remember you wrote, "Feliz natal e
prospero ano novo"?  That's Portuguese, right?  How do I know?  Because I've
lived in Brazil for nine years.  Wow!  This is great!!  I'd never imagined I
would get to know someone who knows Portuguese in this internet...

	It would be really great if you would send me an e-mail...then I can
write you back with my experience in Brazil and about Japanese, too!!  Oh,
shoot!  I don't remember my username for this internet!  Well...if you feel
like writing to me, just type RE after this e-mail.  Or I can get back to you
with my username this time.

	Anyway I'll be looking forward to hear from you.

	Tchau!

                                                 Naomi Adachi

                                                 Kenyon College, Ohio
From: thalawyn@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: forwarded request
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:03:09 GMT
Distribution: fj


   Mina-san;
   I recently received email from someone asking about a listserver where they
can talk with Japanese students or youth about their lives.  If you know of
such a list or anyone who fits that category and is willing to correspond email
please write to Marc LaChaise at lachaise@cc.ec-lyon.fr
   Thalawyn
From: DMROARK%TWSUVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE:       Nihongo Books
Date: 20 Dec 92 09:46:59 GMT
Distribution: fj


    I don't remember any other information about him that would be useful in
trying to locate Major Bradford. I was introduced to him by a retired Colonel
and met him a couple of times at the New Sano hotel. Thanks for your trying.

    Dallas M. Roark, (DMRoark@TWSUVM)
From: lachaise@CC.EC-LYON.FR
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Info
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:37:17 GMT
Distribution: fj


 May I have Info about your list?
From: masseyj@NOVAVAX.NOVA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re:  Nihongo See Spot Run books wanted
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:53:52 GMT
Distribution: fj

it's a little old, but "Reading Japanese" by Yale U Press is a good way
to feel comfortable with 425 kanji.  I just wish they had gone on to do
the rest of the 881 the same way.

Jim Massey
Nova University
From: REINECKE%UKANVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: forwarded request
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:56:23 GMT
Distribution: fj


  I would also be interested in hearing of any students/schools
in Japan that would like to set up some type of pen-pal
program.  I am currently teaching Japanese to some high
school students who I am sure would love to have someone to
write.

C. Reinecke
reinecke@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu
From: fngoh@ASIC.SC.TI.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: re:RE: japanese Dept. Store in Paris...
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:29:17 GMT
Distribution: fj

This is probably late as my mail got backed up quite a bit. Anyway,
I once saw an obese woman wearing a T-shirt with the Hanzi for pig
(Kanji for wild boar?). When asked, she didn't know what it meant; and
I didn't want to offend her so I said I don't either. She remark that
it's such a pretty pattern. I agree with Kenneth that the longing for
worldly appearance is fairly universal characteristic. I guess people
doen't like the ubiquituous, mundane stuff they see everyday (except
bigotted racists, which is another creature anyways).
From: eroche@RND.STERN.NYU.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE: Nihongo Books
Date: 19 Dec 92 23:48:45 GMT
Distribution: fj

Kanji of the Day

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From: det15wx@OSAN-EMH.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE:       Nihongo Books
Date: 18 Dec 92 05:16:48 GMT
Distribution: fj


                   I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:      18-Dec-1992 02:11pm KST
                                        From:      Maj Ken Waters
                                                   DET15WX
                                        Dept:      CC
                                        Tel No:    784-6332

TO:  "Dallas Roark, Emporia State U       ( _NIHONGO@MITVMA.MIT.EDU )


Subject: RE:       Nihongo Books

Dallas,
   No, I'm afraid I've never heard of him.  I checked our phone book
and didn't see a Bradford in there.  Also, I have only been here for
6 months.  If you have more info, however (like office symbol) I can look into
it and maybe find out where he is now.
   Ken
From: JKICHIOK%BRFUEM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: HELP
Date: 19 Dec 92 05:31:47 GMT
Distribution: fj

HI, I GOT A TABLE OF MEASUREMENTS BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
IS THAT CORRECT? HOW ABOUT THE CONVERTION IN AMERICAN MEASURE?
ANYONE COULD HELP ME??
THANKS IN ADVANCE

PS: MERRY XMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR
    FELIZ NATAL E  PROSPERO ANO NOVO

*******************************************************************
                   TABLE OF MEASUREMENTS


1) MEASURE OF LENGTH (FOR CLOTH, ETC)
   1 BU =
   10 BU = 1 SUN
   10 SUN = 1 SHAKU
   10 SHAKU = 1 JO
   1 TAN = VARIES FROM 2 JO 8 SHAKU UP TO 4 JO
   1 HIKI = 2 TAN (50 TO 80 SHAKU)
   1 RYO = 1 HIKI OR 2 TAN


2) CAPACITY
   1 TSUBU (OR KA) =
   1 SATSU =
   10 SATSU = 1 SAI
   10 SAI = 1 SHAKU
   10 SHAKU = 1 GO
   10 GO = 1 SHO
   10 SHO = 1 TO
   10 TO = 1 KOKU
   1 WA (OR TABA) =
   1 SOKU (OR TSUKA) =
   1 HYO =

  VARIABLES
   1 TAN =
   1 I =
   1 KAGO =


3) WEIGHT
   12 BU = 1 SHU
   24 SHU = 1 RYO
   16 RYO = 1 KIN
   1 MOCHI = 10 RYO
   1 KO =


4) LINEAR MEASURE
   1 CHO = 60 KEN
   1 RI = 36 CHO


5) AREA
   1 TAN =
   1 CHO =


6) COINAGE
   1 MON
   1 KAN
From: anil@CS.TITECH.AC.jp
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Technical Japanese at MIT
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:38:53 GMT
Distribution: fj

Susan, please coudl you send me an pplication form
along wit hdetails of
how to secure some of the generous financial aid.
Thank you very much.
Anil Bhatia
249 Kizukigion cho
Nakahara ku
Kawasaki Shi
Kanagawa Ken
Japan 211
From: ASH733@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: jwp (kanji for Windows) word processor <free>
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:45:30 GMT
Distribution: fj


   To Steve Dwyer;

   jwp (Japanese word processor for Windows 3.1) does work in
  386SX environment.   I experimented with Zenith 386SX as well as
  Dell 396SX.

  Akiko
From: 89419032%KRSNUCC1.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: jwp (kanji for Windows) word processor <free>
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:46:27 GMT
Distribution: fj

Additional info for FUNET site:

Internet address is 128.214.6.100

Younghong CHO
89419032@KRSNUCC1.BITNET
hongcho@snuecc.snu.ac.kr
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
From: panther!mothost!lmpsbbs!shuky@uunet.uu.net  (Joshua Beinhorn)
Subject: Development tools for 68302 and HC11
Organization: Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1992 09:48:07 GMT
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>


Our department develops embedded systems using HC11 and 68302 micros.

Till now we have been using Apollo Domain workstations as our
development environment.

We are considering transfer to a UNIX development platform.
The alternatives we consider are either HP/UX or SUN.

What development tools are available for HC11 and 68302 micros on
HP/UX? and what on SUN? Where can I find references to such tools?
-- 
[ name:   Joshua (Shuky) Beinhorn | Motorola Communications Israel |  ___  | 
[ e-mail: shuky@mcil.comm.mot.com | Fixed Products Division        |   | ) | 
[ Phone: +972 (3) 565 8355        | 3 Kremenetski Street           |   |<  | 
[ Fax:   +972 (3) 565 8356        | 61 250  Tel-Aviv, ISRAEL       | \_|_) |
From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!usenet@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: QIC Drive DN4000 -> DN5500
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:47:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Motorola SPS

I am stripping down a DN4000 that I traded in to Sun.  I moved
16MB of memory to a needy DN5500, and now I'm trying to move
the QIC tape.  The DN4000 has a special adapter cable in line
with the normal power supply cable which appears to change the
pin order.  I've tried leaving it in and taking it out on the
5500, but the 5500 still claims "no tape controller in the system".
(Yes, I did run CONFIG.)

For reference, a DN4500 with a tape drive that I also have doesn't
use the adapter cable.

What is even more strange is that the drive whirrs when I insert a 
tape, so it is in fact getting power.

Any ideas?

====== Scott Barvian ========== barvian@email.sps.mot.com =========
====== Motorola SPS =========== Tempe, AZ =========================
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
From: destroyer!news.itd.umich.edu!pisa.citi.umich.edu!rees@gumby.wisc.edu  (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: printing
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:00:46 GMT
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In article <1805@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl>, wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) writes:

  It was at: 
  	archive.umich.edu:/pub/apollo/printing
  
  Note that the're a lot of goodies here. It is/was Jim Rees' archive
  and it's wirthwile to check it out. 

That's apollo/printing (no silly /pub here).

A lot of the stuff in there is pretty old.  I don't really maintain it any
more.  It's part of a larger UM archive that includes lots of Mac stuff and
other interesting things.

By the way, that ftp site is sometimes an Apollo running the Berkeley ftpd
hacked to do anonymous ftp without chroot(), and further hacked by Willem
and by me.  The files are actually stored in afs.  The Apollo afs port was
done by me at the Center for Information Technology Integration of the
University of Michigan.  If you have afs, you can get at the files at
/afs/umich.edu/group/itd/archive.  If you are a Transarc afs licensee, you
can get the Apollo client for free from Transarc.
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From: destroyer!news.itd.umich.edu!pisa.citi.umich.edu!rees@gumby.wisc.edu  (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: Gdb on apollos (was Re: What gcc-release for Domain/OS and where???)
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: fj
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1992 15:28:57 GMT
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In article <MALCOLMP.92Dec8150259@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU>, malcolmp@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU (malcolmp) writes:

  I've been
  trying (on and off) to modify gas to generate read only text segments (which
  involved creating .aptv sections and modifying function calls)

I briefly thought about doing this once (when we were doing the Mach port
here) and decided the easy way would be to leave the function calls alone,
but have them call through a stub in a r/w section where the actual external
references would be located.  Then the loader would be able to fix up the
references, but most of the text would be in the .text section where it
belongs.

But then I figured, why bother...
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