HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: on killing and newsreaders [was Re: Lord Doki and his compatriots]
Reply-To: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:18:14 GMT

udumudi@gingko (u v babu srinivas)
writes on soc.culture.indian:

)sridhar,
)
)if your kill file et al indeed works, you wouldn't be lucky enough to
)see this:

It kills without any exceptions. Since you changed the subject, I was
curious to know what was going on! Don't worry, tin's author gives a
weekly dose of what tin's features are, on news.software.readers.

)use rtin or tin. it has an elm-like screen based front end for the
)basic trn. much easier to use. killing the whole thread or just an
)article, or all articles from a particular address is very easy in
)it -- everything is menu based.

Assumptions ...
1. Everyone likes the elm-like interfaces.
2. Everyone likes tin's Subject threading which is quite similar to rn's
   gnus' and nn's.
3. Everyone likes menu-based newsreaders.

FYI, I use vi, sed and procmail among many others. Does that explain
my ability and my preferences? 

For ed(1)/shell hackers, gnus, tin or nn comes nowhere near the rn interface
and trn's intelligent threading (see below) is unique among
newsreaders. Flames to alt.religion.computers, serious queries to
news.software.readers, drivel to <wherever people like>, questions to
your resident software guru (well, probably Surendar C. @ WPI).

)						-- srinivas

If tin comes anywhere near displaying the following tree-ordered
structure, let me know. If you asked for the fundamental difference
between trn and tin on news.software.readers, you might even get a 
reply from Iain Lea (tin's author). Be assured that I always make
informed decisions. And might I suggest RTFM to all of you people if
you decide to use easy in a comparitive sense. Oh BTW, please plug
your return address.

T42620:

[1] Lord Doki and Compatriots
[2] NET POLICE and flame-tease
[3] on killing and newsreaders [was Re: Lord Doki and his compatriots]

  ( )+-(1)+-(1)+-(1)+-(1)
     |    |    |    \-(1)
     |    |    |-(1)
     |    |    \-( )--(1)
     |    \-(1)
     |-(1)
     \-(1)
 -(1)
 -(1)
 -(1)--(1)--(1)+-(1)
               \-(1)+-(1)
                    |-(2)
                    \-(3)
 -(1)
 -(1)

The following line is more than enough for a trn KILL file (for my
news server).  As easy as typing 'T' from trn.

T42620 

Sridhar.

PS: Ofcourse, I know I should take this topic elsewhere. But having
seen replies on this thread which seem to have a religious tint to
them rather than an informed advice, I can guess how much people know
what they speak about.  tin has its merits and trn has its merits. Try
not comparing apples with oranges.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Subject: Re: Name changes ( mis-understood objective)
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Keywords: Of the People
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:33:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov04.180325.19011@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM writes:
>To: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu
>In article <1992Nov3.163356.11587@csrd.uiuc.edu> you write:
>>(Virendra Verma) writes:
>>>	Why are we carrying their tradition and solving their problem if 
>>>      they can't speak the way we want them to? 
>>Quite simply because we don't have one single Indian language that
>>we can all speak and write in.  And Hindi is not a candidate, for
>>obvious reasons.  My conjecture is that every language has words,
>>letters, phonemes, whatever that cannot be rendered in any other
>>language.  As as example, my own name should probably be spelt
>>Shonjoy, (even that is not quite right),  If I spelt it that way 
>>anybody who didn't know me would wonder if I was from Lapland or 
>>some such place.  Instead of recognizing my name as the Bengali 
>>variant of Sanjay.  
>
> I accept. Status-quo-ists always exist. But some times convenience alone
> will not  be criteria. As for what  is trivial and what is not trivial - 
> Sanjay  babu - THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE IN INDIA. And there are governments
> elected by them, of them, for them. They know what is trivial and what is 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> not trivial. YOUR SAYING THAT THIS MATTER IS A TRIVIAL MATTER, is another 
> example of your ..... (like not sticking to SHONJOY).

>... Much of Personal Basning removed 


	Of the people, by the people and for the People, wait a minute
					 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What Country are we talking about? India? I think YOU have crossed
into, what is know by American's as, the Twilight Zone. India
Might have been a long long time ago, something close to that. 
	Stop representing India as you like it to be. May be you 
(and others) would like it that way, but then again that is another story.
The only way we can make Hindustan, the way we want it to be, is to
correct it's problems and deal realistically, not dream as you like to
do, and get ALL EXCITED.



-- 
____________________   .    .   __         .       | Deepak S. Gianchandani
\___________________|) .____.--"--"---._____       | E-mail:giand@opencon.com
     .      ||       /_____/  NCC_1701  __/ .  . . | 
.       .   ||      /--/--._________.----/   .     | To Boldly Go Where
From: patel@key.amdahl.com (Chandresh Patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: " S E X "
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:06:21 GMT
Reply-To: patel@key.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced System Division

In article 25598@unx.ucc.okstate.edu, u931004@unx.ucc.okstate.edu (u931004) writes:
> 
> "SEX" is banned in the land of Kama Sutra ????
> 
> any comments ?

Kama Sutra is Oooold. Society changes its views.
Nobody says "SEX" is banned. (Our population speaks for itself. :)
Just more reserved about its expression in public.


---
Chandresh Patel			
patel@key.amdahl.com
From: vidynath@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyarath K Rao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: South asians and conservatism
Date: 8 Nov 1992 18:11:59 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

In article <Nov03.195129.52452@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
  kannan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kannan Subramanian) writes:

>I vote that we don't worry too much about Pat Buchanan in this conversation. 
>B Chandrasekharan has just informed us that he spoke at the Convention to 
>keep fishing enthusiasts chained to their seats and I'm perfectly willing to 
>buy that. (Besides, his "Christian Nation" and "religious war" stuff really 
>gets on my nerves and soon after, my objectivity fails me in that quarter.)

I would not ignore Buchanan and his ilk. IMHO, their actions are only a 
start. A recent issue of Readers Digest has an article that supports
instruction in christian religion at public schools, posting of the Ten
Commandments etc. Ignoring this for short term monetary benefits (low taxes)
is just plain stupid.

1996 will see a struggle for the sould of the republican party. Till that
gets played out, we shouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. After that
we will see what republican party really stands for.

-- 
Vidhyanath Rao			It is the man, not the method, that solves
nathrao+@osu.edu		the problem. - Henri Poincare
(614)-366-9341			[as paraphrased by E. T. Bell]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: akash@sol.berkeley.edu (Akash R. Deshpande)
Subject: Re: On Indian Civilization being the oldest...
Reply-To: akash@sol.berkeley.edu (Akash R. Deshpande)
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:37:20 GMT

Again, only using following as an occasion for discourse:

>Vedanta you do not need if your purpose is material; life.

This is clear. Europe did well materially without Vedanta. However,
this does not imply that Vedanta ignores material well-being. For example:
in Taittiriya Upanishad, when the disciple commences his spiritual quest,
he is told "Annam na nindyaat, tad vratam" - thou shalt not ignore food,
this is your commandment unto action, where in Vedantic Sanskrit, food
means matter (annamaya kosha - material sheath, etc). Bhrigu goes on to
discover as Brahman, in order, the self of vastness, the self of mind,
the self of life and finally, the self of matter. His ultimate realisation
was of Brahman in matter. At the end, his teacher agains reminds him:
"Annam na nindyaat." In Isha Upanishad we are told to live a 100 years
doing verily works: "karmanyeveha karmani jijivishechchatam samaha."
Yagnavalkya was told to take a 100 lean cows and return
to the teacher when they grow to 1000. The Gita is a commandment to action
in the face of moral difficulties. And so on ...

>                                                           But if
>your objective is to liberate yourself from your bondage
>and seek the Brahman, then that is a plausible way. It is precisely
>that aspect that has kept the civilization looking upto the vedas,
>in spite of consistent attempts to defile them.

And it is precisely because our civilisation has kept going to the Veda
and Vedanta only for liberation and moksha, that we have grown weaker.
Here, in this world, while doing works, one has to attain such liberation
as possible. Moksha and nirvana are but an escape from or postponement of a
more complete realisation which is possible concretely only in the material.

>...kt
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: None
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:45:51 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:
: >
: >         Hey just b'cause hitler was born on the same day don't mean
: >         you need to
: >                   be sad. Actually he was one of the best leaders the
: >                   world has had, the
: >                                       Daniel.
: >
: >************************************************************************
: 
:                  OH yes. Earth is full of idiots. 

	  OH yes!! Are you No. One?? 
: 
: >
: >
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Ancient Indian History
Keywords: Dravidians, Aryans
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:36:17 GMT


In article <3788@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (S.Ramakrishnan) writes:
> In article <BxH5Iu.4Fw@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) writes:
>   >
>   >     There was an omission of a word 'NOT' in my article and this is
>   >      to correct the error. Sorry 
> 
> And I was so pleasantly surprised to see such a brief article by 
> "C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering". He was merely correcting 
> a word !
> 
> Reminds me of the following joke:
> 
> A woman had this nasty habit of talking regularly to her friends
> over the phone for hours at length. One day she pleasantly surprised her
> husband when she hung up after merely 15 minutes of conversation.
> 
> And the husband learnt later that she had called a wrong number.
> 

     That was GOOD !  I enjoyed , thanks.

     Now, reading your response I am reminded of this 'joke':

       A guy was attending a series of lectures on the attrocities
       comitted by Hitler and vivid video clips were used to support
       and in comprehending the gruesome nature of those attrocities
       ( truck loadful of skeleton-like live human beings, gas chambers,
        torturous medical experiments done on jews....).
      
       At the end, this guy was asked what he thought of the series; 
       his reply was:

                   I think Mr.Hitler's mustache was a bit short !
> 
> S Ramakrishnan

        Regards,
        Selva Selvakumar
From: bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: <None>[in which i am honey].....
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:53:27 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1992Nov8.151550.49854@ccvax.ucd.ie>, bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
> In article <1992Nov5.072455.29725@colorado.edu>, paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov4.114050.49827@ccvax.ucd.ie> bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
>>>
>>>Honey,
>>>animal sex films are still the biggest craze in the same hostel...
>>>
>>>Yeah... this could be food for you thoughts ;-)
>>>
>>>-vibgyor
>> 
>> 1] Sweet bharathi,
>> 
>>    I am sure you are doing your part to uphold the animal tradition
>>    at the old hostel. No sacrifice is too great for a worthy cause.
>>    The fact that you are the only known specimen of the Jackelope,
>>    the accidental progeny of a wandering mad hare and an antelope
>>    in heat, blessed with all the wit of the former and the thick skin
>>    of the latter, grown to full adulthood in the trauma of this stifling 
>>    recession, must have aided you in this noble task.
>> 
>>    About providing food for my thoughts I can only thank you for your kindness
>>    good madam, and remind you that when you get lost in thought they 
>>    are forced to send out a search party. 
>> 
>>    Or to fall back on the old classic: It would take two of you to make
>>    one idiot.
>> 
>>    Sweet bharathi, sing low. :-)
>> 
>>    But more seriously:
>>    It could be of course that the animals in question were politicians,
>>    for has it not been said that politics makes strange bedfellows ?
>> 
>>    Or was this hostel of yours a metaphor for the donkey and the
>>    elephant of the republicans and the democrats  and how they both
>>    screw the people ?
>> 
>>    Are the sex films just an expression of post-modern rage, 
>>    a howl of insane horror, an overflowing of angst ? Or is it just the
>>    last sad mewl of the lost post-world-war-II generation paying
>>    desparate homage to what is left by way of the coccyx of a once flowing, 
>>    perhaps even pre-hensile tail ? Deep questions.
>>    
>>    P.S. Still, since no one has given any answer to your original question:
>>         My advice: Let sleeping dogs lie.
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> .   Rain makes me remember,                                                .
>> .   The sunset of that golden hour,                                        .
>> .   When my eyes were first opened,                     Paul Chemmanoor    .
>> .   And I saw your eyes, No longer blind.                   Boulder.       .
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Honey,
> 
> Your crap is full of high-sounding-meaningless-stupid-awaful-ambiguious-junk-
> foolish-....ad infi. words.
> 
> Never mind, it happens when you have nothing meaningful to say, you 
> start throwing jargons. God bless you with common sense ......honey.
> 
> -vibgyor the Pindari
>
----------------------------------------------------------
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: test
Date: 8 Nov 1992 04:40:53 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

rajain@sml12.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain) writes:
>|> this is a test.
>   Reallllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ??????????
>    ;-) ;-)
>   Test for what ?????

>   rAjAt :-)

lets say my sys. admins. patience  ;-)


suresh


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kpm@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kaushik Mehta)
Subject: DON BOSCO HIGH School Alumni
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:14:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
Keywords: DON BOSCO Alumni

Don Bosco High School (Matunga, Bombay) alumni association has been formed.
Please contact:

     Kaushik Mehta
     4009 Paloverde Dr.
     Kennesaw, GA 30144
     USA

     phone: 404.424.8475
	    404.850.2086 (work)

     email: kpm@hpuerca.atl.hp.com

Thanks !

Kaushik Mehta 
Class of '72

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: damania@src.honeywell.com (Bhavesh Damania)
Subject: Best way to take dollars officially to India so as to get best rates
Organization: Honeywell Systems and Research Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:06:06 GMT


I am interested in determining the best way to take money to India officially
so that you get the best possible rates. I know there must have been several
discussions on this newsgroup and somebody must have saved a copy of the 
responses.

One of my friends long time back had mentioned that if you take a cheque 
or draft and deposit it into an NRI account you can get the rate of Rs 30.xx
and don't have to get 40% of money converted at the RBI rate which is 
around Rs 25.xx, 

Can someone confirm this

TIA
-- 
Bhavesh Damania                          Phone: (612) 951-7324
Honeywell Systems and Research Center    Fax:   (612) 951-7438
3660 Technology Drive, MN 65-2100        Internet: damania@src.honeywell.com
Minneapolis, MN 55418.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,ba.market.housing,ba.market.misc,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu,alt.culture.karnataka,alt.culture.kerala,alt.culture.tamil
From: gundala@cirrus.com (Lakshmikanth Gundala)
Subject: Room available for rent near San Jose
Originator: gundala@ss2127
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.  Fremont, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:14:42 GMT

Looking for a roommate to share a well furnished 2 bed, 2 bath appartment in Sunnyvale.
The appartment is close to most of the major silicon valley companies.  The rent will 
be $400 + utilities and is available for immediate occupancy. 

If interested pliase e-mail me at gundala@cirrus.com or call me at (408) 554-6355.

Lakhmikanth

From: murali_k@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Murali Krishna (temp))
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:48:11 GMT
Subject: Looking for P Seshaiah(SP Kanti)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian

Hi,

        I am looking for a friend.  I came to know that he is doing
        Ph. D here in US.  Here I have his details.  If anybody happens
        to know his whereabouts pl. send me that info.  He has done some
        course in England and came to US a few months back

        Here are his details

                P. Seshaiah (or S P Kanti)
                Master of Engineering in Electronics from
                Madras Institute of Technology, Madras, India.

        Thanks,
                                                Murali Krishna

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:58:09 GMT


In article <Bx7Eus.7Lt@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca 
(Harpreet Singh) writes:
>In article <1992Nov1.104649.3083@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rroy@magnus.acs.o
hio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:
>> 
>> In article <Bx07B1.n4A@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.
ca 
>> (Harpreet Singh) writes:
>> >What's wrong in asking for KHALISTAN?
>> >
>> >Harpreet Singh
>> 
>>      What is wrong with chopping someone's arm ? A nation is a man, living
>>  and breathing. You will feel the pain only if you were a part of this 
>>  nation. So don't bother asking. You will never understand it.
>> 
>>  Raja
>> 
>> >
>
>What about the pain of killing 10,000 Sikhs during the 1984 riots.?
>Did u ever feel any pain for them??. 

          Ofcourse I felt the pain and I still feel it. I didn't kill
 them, nor any sane person killed them. The goondas, the opportunists
 killed them. It happens everywhere. It happens here in U.S.A. in L.A.
You just remember this. Do you remember anything beyond ? How many 
 innocent hindus, sikhs and Nirankaris did Bhinderawale and his allies
 killed before operation blue star. How many thousands the terrorists
 have killed afterwards.

> I really felt that i was part
>of the nation before those riots that were arranged by Rajiv Gandu and
>his M.P's, many of whom are still in power.  That's what u call a 
>nation who just kill their own people.  I was there in New Delhi during 
>the riots and I know how i feel.

     If you understand this much, then how can you blame the PEOPLE of
 India for all this.

>  So u should stop acting so patriotic
>and shut up.  What were u doing during those Riots of 1984??

    What were you doing before 1984. What are you doing now ? On 31st
october,92 your freedom-fighters have killed 30 innocent bus-passengers.
Who will pay for this?

>
>There is nothing wrong in asking for KHALISTAN, and God willing we we'll
>get it in my life time.  Why stay in India where u never know when u can
>be killed by the people in power.  Why were there no riots when Rajiv
>Gandu died.???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

     So you like to have riots, everytime someone dies ? 
 You are already living in Khalistan in Canada. Don't worry about your
 Indian counterparts, they will either come to join you in Canadian
 Khalistan or they will understand your empty rhetoric and be happy in
 their motherland, India. 
    And by what right you are asking for khalistan. 48 % are not sikhs,
 so they don't want it and you don't even know whether even 2 % of sikhs
 want khalistan. Sikhs in India will be very happy , if you people left
 them in peace. You , people from outside are creating problems for
 them. Let them live happily if you want their happiness. Do you really
 care for them? You live happily here, while they are bearing the bullets?

Raja  
>
>Harpreet Singh
>  
>
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:36815 news.groups:21435
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,news.groups
Subject: Re: RESULT correction: rec.arts.poems.urdu passes
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:54:20 GMT
Reply-To: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

sthiruna@HP-UX (Srinivas Thirunagari)
writes on soc.culture.indian:

)I was surprised as I was going through this article to find
)that most of the people who gave negative vote for urdu
)are Non-Urdu(American) speakers. In fact they must have not had a 
)hair breadth of knowledge about urdu, forget about its rich
)poetry. 

)I wish I could understand the reason for that ?

It was better that you asked instead of jumping into wrong
conclusions! Most of the people who voted 'no' were in some sense
'namespace purists' and hardly any concern was given by the votetaker
towards the suggestions given on news.groups regarding the name for
the group. Not even a summary in the CFV of those suggestions/rebuttals.

Followups to news.groups where the question really belongs. Beware of
the high volume news.groups is carrying nowadays.

)Srinivas.

Sridhar.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
From: akk@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Arvind Kukreja 202-219-7396)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why does India always miss the bus, YOUR COMMENTS PLEASE.
Keywords: India, Nehru, Socialism, Economy.
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:00:52 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs

It is very easy to see why India always miss the bus. Look at all the
postings on this conference. See how much hate and intolerance is there.
See how much confused we all are about each other and as a matter of
fact about humanity too. See how divided we are as a community. See
how we have failed to learn from our past 1000 years of history. 
A community never grows unless it learns from its mistakes. 

You make a mistake once, it is probably not a big deal.
You make the same mistake again, it could be a coincidence or just
a case rotten luck.
                                                    
You make the same mistake again and again, You are just plain stupid.

Best of luck

Arvind

A
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: C11810@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Manisha Patel)
Subject: LUDICROUS POSTINGS
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:14:38 CST

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