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From: masoud@pokey.hi.com (Masoud Sadrolashrafi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Any Iranians with U.S. citizenships
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:23:57 -0000
Organization: Hitachi Computer Products, OSSD division
NNTP-Posting-Host: pokey.hi.com

In article <71DsXB1w165w@halcyon.com> death@halcyon.com (jelly belly) writes:
>
> This is really sad to me to see someone who turned his back on his own 
>country by throwing away his Iranian citizenship, something I am proud to 
>say I still have even though I have lived here for over 18 years, now cry 
>about not being able to go back! Bo hu, bo hu hu hu! You may think that 
>your not a sell out, but you are. What made you do? A stupid American ho? 
>Your Jewish boss? Who, who! If you want to go back to Iran tear up your 
>worthless American citizenship and get your original Iranian one. Trust 
>me, then you won't have any problem going back.
>
>P.s. 

Just shut the f*** up if you have nothing useful to say.

Nobody threw away his Iranian citizenship, have and will always be proud
of being Iranian, always defended my heritage against idiots who speak
without knowing the facts and circumstances, and always disassociated myself
from idiots such as yourself.

About the rest of the garbage in your article, you know what to do with it.

Masoud Sadrol-ashrafi, (the poster of the original article)
masoud@hicomb.hi.com
Work Tel: (617)890-0444

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: Re; A few pure Persian words from Shah-Nama [sci-poster]
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 14:43:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.204318.28297@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM> zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz) writes:
>
>Agha Behzad Drood bar Shoma:  
>
>I guess it was almost a few years ago, that somebody (I think it was it
>was Mr. Shamloo) who tried to say the Shahnameh is bunch of lies and now
>today he is back in Iran.  I finally could not understand such a
>character as Shamloo could do such a thing to his people.

i can see that you among many other iranians didn't get the main point
of shamloo's argument. he wasn't particularly talking about shahnaame,
god forbid, he was trying to show to us our dogmatic approach to
history, and was encouraging us to look at history objectively. another
words, not to make imams out of ordinary human beings. i wonder if
people such as yourself ever read the text of his speech before reaching
to any conclusions?

>
>
>Anyway, Rooz Khoosh.
>
>Zamie

behzad


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,talk.politics.mideast
From: nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca (Navid Badie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Re; Unreadable poems [sci-anon-poster] [sci-poster]
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:06:31 GMT
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"

etxmajz@solsta.ericsson.se (Majid Zolfaghari  TX/DKG) writes:
: 
: I think really that this (aarash) is one of (few) good works of Kasraai.

Well, of course when it comes to poetry, "goodness" is in the mind of
the beholder, but for the sake of generating some interesting discussion
("yeah, right!" say the sci pundits) let me disagree with you. I think
aarash-e kamaangir is the masterpiece of Kasraaii, and among the
masterpieces of modern persian poetry, but I also happen to like
quite a few other poems of Kasraaii. You seem to have read Kasraaii, 
so what is your opinion of poems such as "raghse iraani", "ensaan",
"pas az man shaa'eri aayad" or "baavar"?

Of course Kasraaii is a political poet, but if you manage to
be non-judgemental about his political views, his poetry is quite
wonderful. I especially like it because it is simple in style, it
is not "dark poetry", and he is not constantly moaning that his love 
has left him, and the blood of his liver is going to come out of his
eyes (khoone jegar az dide nemifeshaanad!).

Anyway, just my 2 cents' worth. 

Cheers,
Navid Badie
nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca
From: cca218@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("J.S.Jafari-Sisi")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: khar to khar
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:48:31 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

In article <93025.213130RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> RMODARR@auvm.american.edu (Reza Modarres) writes:
>Trying to traslate the concept of khar-to-khar to a friend, I found myself
>very much in confusion. Is there an English phrase convaying the same
>concept?
>
>RezA

Agha Reza

I think in English the word for  khar-to-khar is Paisly Pattern.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: wjhrc@rc.rit.edu (Bill Hoagland)
Subject: Re: On the Iranian calendar and its base (Was Re: A Subjective Point of Reference)
Followup-To: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: RIT Research Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:49:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.163654.2752@fmg.bt.co.uk>, ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein
Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) wrote:

> And it matters not a bit.  Napoleon tried something to change the
> calendar and failed.  The soviets even with their stronger atheistic
> and anti-religious policies did not even bother.

Two small points.
  
Napoleon returned the French to using the Gregorian calendar after the
French Revolutionary government installed their an anti-religious 
calendar.  He was not the one who attempted to change it.

The Soviet Union did try to install two variations or their own 
anti-religious calendar between 1929 and 1940.  This did fail miserably 
because they complicated peoples lives, ran contrary to the Christian,
Jewish, and Islamic traditions of almost all the citizens of the Soviet
Union, and people in remote areas ignored them the entire time they were
in effect anyway.

Bill Hoagland
wjhrc@rc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Iranian/American culture (Re: .. translator in the house)
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Keywords: followup on Aref/Ala discussion, Iranian/American cultural diff.
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:06:35 GMT

In <1993Jan27.231700.2068@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:
>>

>Couldn't you say the same thing about an Iranian?

You should read more carefully.  You can find the answer in the origional
article.

                  /*  Babak(); */

--
From: jazz@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Farhad Jazayeri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Just testing
Date: 26 Jan 1993 07:38:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: none
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

This is just a test..
From: hamid@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Hamio Reza Mohammadi Daniali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Economic news from Iran [sci-poster]
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:49:39 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Originator: hamid@celeborn.mcrcim.mcgill.edu


In article <1993Jan25.221859.22691@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
|> In article <lm8dq7INNje3@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, Mohamad Ebrahimi <ebrahim@ee.UManitoba.CA> writes:
|> |> 
|> |>   From Kayhan Havai #1015 - Jan. 13,1993
|> |> 
|> |> 
|> |>   Ahvaz(IRNA)- About 400,000 tones will be added to Iran's annual output of
|> |>   sponge iron with the opening Sunday of direct processing unit 1 of the
|> 
|> Thanks for the info but what is "sponge iron" ?

In Farsi we call it AAHANE ESFANGY



|> 
|> For a second I thought it was a  
|> 
|> make up kit for mAdare folAd-zereh!
|> 
|> 
|> :-)
|> 
|> -- 
|> Farhad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Why Tashdid?
Organization: Inquiry
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:50:06 GMT

In article <8705@charon.cwi.nl> farhad@cwi.nl (Farhad Arbab) writes:
>Hi folks,  I am back after five weeks of business and vacation.

Welcome back Farhad khAn and thanks for your fine points.  They just
prompted me to ask two questions from you, if I may.

>The story of "yekom" is rather interesting.  It is in fact a
>recent invention that defies the semantics of Persian.  The
>credit or the blame for "yekom" goes to the modern military
>establishment of the Pahlavis.

Can you tell us more about 'yek' and its origin?  I mean if somebody or
an institution coined 'yekom,' where does 'yek' itself come from?

>NOT "yekom", as I mentioned above.

No, you really didn't cover it.  :-)

>Let's be careful here: "tashdid" and its rule are NOT part of the
>grammar of Arabic or Persian; they are part of the alphabet and the
>writing system presently used to record them on paper!

Good catch!  I was wrong in implying it was a grammer rule.  Thanks for
the correction.  So the rule is just a convention to write words in the
sentence.  I hope I am right here because I am setting the stage to launch
my second question from you.

>Now for "dovvom" and "sevvom".  Let's start from the beginning:
>"do"+"om" and "se"+"om".  What is special about these, you ask?
>It just happens that "do" and "se" are the only two cardinal
>numbers that (when pronounced) end in a vowel.  Therefore, when
>you add the "om" suffix, the vowels contract.

>The end result is then: "dov"+"vom" and "sev"+"vom", and hence
>the tashdid.

I thought tashdid is applied (at least in Arabic words [I didn't say
language this time - HFN]) when two of the SAME characters appear in the
word whereby one of them is consonant and the other a vowel.  Of course
with Arabic words we use / under a chr, / above a chr, and 9 [this is my
version of zameh, beware! - HFN] above a chr to show vowels e, a, o
respectively, and a small circle above the chr to show a consonant.

Examples: mosal-lAm becomes mosalam with tashdid above 'lAm,' or monas-sef
becomes monasef with tashdid above the 'sin.'  Your rule to add tashdid
was different as your explanation above.  Are there more than one rule for
tashdid?  Or tashdid rule changes once we are dealing with Persian words?

>Satisfied?

If you elaborate about 'yek' and the "interesting" story of 'yekom.  :-)

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Ash-e reshteh [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:51:27 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel
To: sci-anon-poster 
Originator: daemon@handel


Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>	...
>  Hey man, How can I schedual something on the net. Are you putting me on
>  or what. Mail me directly and I'll let you know what my schedual is.
>
>RezA

RezA jAn:

	I am not putting you on. I just wanted to see if talking about 
Ash-e reshteh would make hAji to post the recipe. I guess Ash-e reshteh
doesn't have many "tarafdAr"s.

ShahrAm






 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Important note to sci-anon-poster's
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:34:26 GMT

In <1993Jan22.192229.446@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> shahrokh@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Shahrokh M.) writes:

>In article <sehari.727678255@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>
>>Off course, there is no difference between them just wanted to see
>>what you say. Hee hee hee hee

>'off course' there is a difference boobak joon. one is a *subset* of the
                                   ^^^^^^^^
>other.  that doesnt make them same.  the general term parallel-computing 
>nowadays refers primarily to single machines with multiple cpus, such as 
>the MP SS-10's, cm5, ncube, paragon, ksr1, etc.  distributed-computing refers 
>to physically separate machines, cooperating to perform a task (obviously
>in parallel). 

Well, I guess we have start name calling once again, Ok. ShashKhor we enter
this phase as you wish.  Van Numan machines, which some example of them
have been mentioned by you are fathers of current idea of distributed 
processing. Do not worry continue reading and askig your friends about these
stuff, you'll learn eventually.

>>what you say. Hee hee hee hee
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>so *you* were the inspiration behind the brand of fancy cheese we used to 
>have back in iran called 'la vash ki ri' (the laughing cow).


>>>void __Babak( void );
>>>
>>>and what an appropriate use of the 'void' type-specifier it is!!!
>>
>>I guess this is a compliment. 

>you guess wrong Babcock.

OK you may enjoy your great status, here I modified your calling so best
represent you:

union shashkhor_type
      {
      float shit;
      float shash;
      }in_take;

shashkhor_type __Shahrokh(in_take);
   {
    :
    :
    }

void __Babak(void)
    {
     :
     :
     }
void main(void)
    {
    :
    :
    }


                     /*   __Babak();   */
-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz)
Subject: Haji Firoz in Denver
Summary: Denver's kaboby 
Keywords: Haji she_ka_moo 
Organization: Snow and kabob 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:09:58 GMT


Haji is in Denver Colorado and I have been able to use the system here to
read the news. Haji is going to find out if there is a CHELOKABOBY
around Denver or Boulder but if you know of it send Haji the address.
CHA_KE_RAM
Haji in Denver in Ramada inn hotel without Chelokabob.
From: jazz@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Farhad Jazayeri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Haji's KABOB KOBIDE
Date: 26 Jan 1993 07:27:14 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
    TEST
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:38:39 EST
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Is there an interpreter in the house?
 <1993Jan21.231629.29977@EE.Stanford.EDU> <C18AKL.3xt@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
 <1993Jan22.001744.16790@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>

In article <1993Jan22.001744.16790@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) says:
>
>In article <C18AKL.3xt@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>>
>>I do not think that we are here to provide with Americans the way
>>to date Iranian girls.  I just do not think this media should be
>>used in this manner.  This is only one person's opinion.  I've
>>
>>I do think that IRANI girls ARE too good for Americans.
>>But again I am talking about IRANI and not so called Persian-Americans.
>>In general I am against dating and casual relationships.
>>It seriusly contradicts our culture.
>>This, I know, is not only MY opinion.
>>
>>Ala
>
>
>Attitudes as such, judging people and generalizing about them because of
>the color of their passport are as old as all other forms of bigotry and
>prejudice. There are certain characteristics shared by people from certain
>ethnic backgrounds; such characteristics are mainly physical and external;
>color of hair or skin. Even then, there are many exceptions. But trying to
>label people and predict how their heart and mind works solely based on their
>Iranian-ness or American-ness is absolutely and totally immaterial, ignorant
>and uneducated.
>
>Thank you SCI. Now I know we not only have rednecks but major redneck-vatani's
>as well. How sad.
>
>Aref
>


   Take it ez Aref jAn. Ala only expressed his own opinion. Weren't you the one
   who once said "express yourself". In his second posting, Ala brought in
   another, more general, issue all together. That is an issue we can sink
   our teeth into. For the record, I am not for what has has mentioned
   regarding non-Iranians dating Iranians. Matters of heart do not know
   physical boundries. I light of the second issue he mentions, I think he
   sees no objection in non-Iranians marrying Iranians. It's the process that
   he is objecting to. And that my dear Aref, is very much cultural. It's
   not uneducated, hickish, or whatever else you tried to label it. It's
   only a man's opinion of his culture.

RezA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sharam@ole.cdac.com (Sean Namazi)
Subject: Re: Is there an interpreter in the house?
Organization: Cascade Design Automation, Bellevue, WA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:26:29 GMT

In article <C17J8w.C3C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>
>Are you sure this will be used for GOOD USE.
>I do not think helping Americans date an Iranian girl is justified.
>
>Ala


I think it will be highly justified if you get a life.

Shahram
-- 
Sean Namazi                     | UUCP:      ...!uunet!ole!sharam
Cascade Design Automation Corp. | Internet:  sharam@ole.cdac.com
3650 131st Ave SE, Suite 650    | 
Bellevue, WA  98006             |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic
From: ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira)
Subject: U.S's Alibi (Re: US Cruise missile's accuracy)
Organization: ECE - Concordia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:21:15 GMT

I am not surprised that the reason that the defenders of the U.S 
imperialism in the middle east and elsewhere advance for refusing
to believe that the U.S would bomb a hotel intentionally is "It just
can't happen, the U.S is just not that stupid or evil to do it"
Well folks, that is exactly the U.S's alibi.

In the sixties, when the FBI "used to be" a criminal organization that
falsifies documents and sabotages civil rights leaders, not to mention
killing a few presidents (possibly), at the time, nobody believed that the
U.S government could do such a thing, well that is the reason they close
some of those files for sixty years.

Every new generation is raised on the myth that you can trust the government
because we elected it... then somebody in 60mins will bring a scandal after
a new generation has been raised on that myth, i.e, when it is just too late.
just an entertainment value, national enquire kind of thing..
The media is just another part of the whole equation.

No conspiracy theory here, just the survival of the richest, the most wicked, 
and the most motivated.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Re; Unreadable poems [sci-anon-poster] [sci-poster]
Originator: sehari@vincent2.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:16:22 GMT

In <1k23hoINNhvr@spim.mti.sgi.com> cheragh@alborz.mti.sgi.com (Mash Cheragh-Ali) writes:

>In article <93025.174120RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>, RMODARR@auvm.american.edu (Reza Modarres) writes:

>|> 
>|>   You must be new around here. Let me first welcome you to the zoo.
>|>   Second, as you may be already surmised, we have all kinds of creatures
>|>   in residence. So, be careful as some of them bite.
>|>   Third, You should never argue with some of us. We simply don't have what
>|>   it takes to engage in a constructive conversation.
>|>   And finally, this is a great place to visit but you don't want to live
>|>   here.
>|> 
>|> RezA

>                                                         =      |  .     | : ~
>                                                    ,  |_)      |,_p     |_o |
>                                                      (|    (_S      /        


>              |   c     /        .             ||   :    |        |  .    / c 
>              |_o_w   4_)   |_7q  _c   q      _||_e_,_   |_       |]_7   _)_w 
>                           (|. / /     /   (_S       : /  .   (_S       /     

>            ~  ..         |        .     :             :   | |         |      
>    o >   q |  __,_w ]_   |    > q_7   |_o_c   q      _,_o |_|_w   o   |_ q > 
>        / /           .    /     /    (|       /   (_S               /  . /   

>                                         : c =           |        |           
>                                   . ]_,_,_w_) _       > |_c    | |_7  4_   q 
>                                       :      /.   (_S         (|       .   / 

>    ..               /     |  .     .   .     |       |   c   ..              
>    __,_ q_8   __,_w_)   | |_,_ >     q_,_8   |_o   , |_o_w   __,_o_7 _o   4_ 
>       : /     .        (|   .      / /                              /      . 

>                                                      |     |    ..        . |
>                                                !  o_ | o > |>   __,_w >     |
>                                                  ( :                      /  
>                  c          .                                                
>             ,    w_,_    _,_7                                                
>               (_/  :c   / :                                                  

>           |   . |        c                                                   
>          _|_e_c | _7     w_o                                                 
>       (_S        /c   (_/                                                    

This sound more like a poem than the Kasravi's work! 

                     With highest regards,
                          Babak    Sehari.
--
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:29:41 CST
From: <U60001@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Wierd jokes!

many wierd (bee-mazeh) jokes one can see in SCI these days about the
recent application of computer technology by religious scholars in Qhom.

well tell me that,

whatevert this be, it is better than some assholes who come to this world
as a kore-khar and leave as a khar.

willing to elaborate this for anyone who needs it!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian