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From: rogerv@sco.COM (Roger Vortman)
Subject: Re: plumber wanted for gas work
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:57:31 GMT
Keywords: gas/propane fridge; San Lorenzo Valley


>>We will soon be moving to a house in Boulder Creek that has a propane
>>stove and furnace.  We're considering buying a gas refrigerator, and
>>we'll need someone to convert the gas burner to a propane burner.  Can
>>you recommend a plumber or someone who will do a good job?  
>>
>>We'll also need to add some extra gas line from the stove to the area
>>where we'll put the fridge.  Is that a "do it yourself" kind of task?

>Personally, our PG&E bill for electricity has only been about $25.00 a month
>so I would't  bother with a gas refridge. It might end up costing you more 
>to purchase a gas refridge than it does to pay the PG&E bill.

There is also the issue of power outages...over the 10+ years that I
lived in Boulder Creek we emptied the refrigerator and freezer several
times.  I would have been glad to have a propane refrigerator.  The only
thing that stopped me was doubt about the availability of spare parts.  At
this point I might do it, since most major appliances that I have
purchased (after research) have been reliable over several years, much more
reliable than the electric power in Boulder Creek.

We originally had the all-electric house...over the years we gradually
converted everything over to propane due to the power outages.  It was
especially nice to convert the stove and water heater, since there is nothing
like a hot shower or hot food when the power was out.  We had fairly
frequent power outages when someone hit a power pole, or tree branches dropped
on a line, lasting anywhere from an hour to 12 hours.  And then there were
of course the ones that went along with major storms, where the power could
be out for more than a day.  But everyone's power is out, it is nice and
quiet and you go to bed early.  But the more of your appliances that were
pas, the more you enjoyed the power outages.

-Roger
From: kathryn@Apple.COM (Kathryn Vandiver)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: plumber wanted for gas work
Keywords: gas/propane fridge; San Lorenzo Valley
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:49:38 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <Nov.18.12.28.46.1992.16567@presto.ig.com> steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse) writes:
>
>We will soon be moving to a house in Boulder Creek that has a propane
>stove and furnace.  We're considering buying a gas refrigerator, and
>we'll need someone to convert the gas burner to a propane burner.  Can
>you recommend a plumber or someone who will do a good job?  
>
>We'll also need to add some extra gas line from the stove to the area
>where we'll put the fridge.  Is that a "do it yourself" kind of task?
>
>Thanks,
>--steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com


Personally, our PG&E bill for electricity has only been about $25.00 a month
so I would't  bother with a gas refridge. It might end up costing you more 
to purchase a gas refridge than it does to pay the PG&E bill.

As for the stove, Circuit City can order you an expansion valve for you to
install.  Also, Surburban propane offers it's customers these kind of
services. If your not with suburban, then call your propane company, they can
probably help you. 

good luck,
kc.
From: steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: plumber wanted for gas work
Keywords: gas/propane fridge; San Lorenzo Valley
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:28:47 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: IntelliGenetics Inc., Mtn. View, Ca.


We will soon be moving to a house in Boulder Creek that has a propane
stove and furnace.  We're considering buying a gas refrigerator, and
we'll need someone to convert the gas burner to a propane burner.  Can
you recommend a plumber or someone who will do a good job?  

We'll also need to add some extra gas line from the stove to the area
where we'll put the fridge.  Is that a "do it yourself" kind of task?

Thanks,
--steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
From: allied@sco.COM (Allie D.)
Subject: Free Chiropractic for food!
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:34:08 GMT





Boulder Creek Chiropractic is having a Thanksgiving food drive in

assiciation with Valley Churches.

		HELP THEM HELP OTHERS LESS FORTUNATE

During the month of November, Dr. Rogers will be donating initial exams
and consultations (normally $46-$64) AT NO CHARGE in exchange for
canned foods.

These donated foods will be given to the Valley Churches United Thanksgiving
Project 1992.

For appointments and details call

			338-2555


PLEASE HELP!  I have.  He is a wonderful doctor and has given back my health
where no one else could help.




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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: ba.news.config
Subject: momenta?
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:54:37 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

Will whoever is running momenta please send me email? (does the site still
exist?) -- our uucp link is evidently broken and has been since about August.

Until this is resolved, sites should mark apple->momenta as DEAD.

All mail sent via that link is dropping into a black hole, and evidently has
been for months.


-- 
            Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX)
                      Member, SFWA =+= Editor, OtherRealms
                chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ 

    I wanna drive the zamboni! I wanna drive the zamboni, yes I do.
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From: gstory@netcom.com (Glenn Story)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: "Most Music Allowed By Law"
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:14:15 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Nov12.095314@kuttner.sfc.sony.com> weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver) writes:
>
>In article <1dshfjINNpu4@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com>, mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov9.101717@kuttner.sfc.sony.com> I wrote:
>|> 
>|> >                  They could play test-tones all day pausing only for
>|> >top-of-the-hour legal IDs if they wanted to.
>|> 
>|> But I doubt that this is true.  The justification for the FCC and station
>|> liscensing is that the airwaves are a publicly held scarce resource that
>|> needs to be administered so as to ensure that the public interest is well
>|> served.  While there are no regulations of which I am aware that prohibit
>|> the broadcast of continuous tones to the exclusion of any other programming,
>|> I beleive that doing so for any extended period of time would result in
>|> complaints that could eventually lead, in the extreme, to a liscense
>|> revokation.
>
>As a matter of theoretical policy, the above is correct.  
>
>As a matter of practice today, the FCC doesn't give a hoot what the programming
>is like unless there's a renewal challenge, at which point they'll go in
>and look at the licensee's "public affairs" record.  If it REALLY STINKS,
>the challenge may be considered.  
>
>Radio programming has been de-regulated for YEARS now.  It is commission policy
>that formats are a matter for the market.  If the licensee can keep funding
>the station to play alternative-country music, fusion jazz, comedy, or test
>tones, the FCC doesn't care until renewal time and THEN only if there's a
>challenge.

>Eric

It is my understanding that KQED lost its license for channel 32 because 
it left its transmitter off the air for several months (in some ways worse
than just sending tone;  in some ways equivalent.)  There was a license 
challenge involved (as well as some labor/management politics) but the 
fundamental reason they lost their license was failure to make use of 
the "scare, publically owned resource" their license represented.



-- 
Glenn Story                             
story_glenn@tandem.com                   gstory@netcom.com
glenn_a_story@cup.portal.com             70135.756@compuserve.com
---
"I *never* do anything I don't want to do.  Nor does anyone, but in my case I
am always aware of it."  -- Robert Heinlein
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From: donh@shakala.com (Don Hackler)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,alt.radio.pirate
Subject: Re: pirate radio in the south bay
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 20:26:41 PST
Organization: Shakala BBS- (Clan Zen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 1-408-734-2289

pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) writes:

>     I'm sure a number of folks would have happily freely given you
> consultaion regarding engineering and prepared your apps.  I have done that
> for a number of community and college stations.  I am a very big supporter
> of community and college stations.  When this all blows over, give me a
> ring and I will try to help you get a legit station license.
> 
>    Give me a call, I certainly don't want to look like I was aiding an
> illegal operation.  :-)
> 
>              Tim
> 

Tim, Steve ...
   Drop me a note (donh@shakala.com) when you want to get serious
about helping these guys set up something legal.  I'm a broadcast
engineer (currently working in the computer industry... the pay
is better) that would be happy to help any non commercial station
with this sort of thing.

- don

------------------------------------------------------------------
Don Hackler  - donh@shakala.com 
Shakala BBS- (Clan Zen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 1-408-734-2289
From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: pirate radio in the south bay
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:08:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

From article <44000@zygot.ati.com>, by john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon):

> Attitude? You bet. As a broadcast engineer I am painfully aware of the
> line my clients must tow to keep from getting fines and worse from the
> FCC. When a bunch of radio wannabees just short-circuit the process
> claiming poverty, and then whine when someone finally blows the whistle
> after one of my REAL stations is gigged because of a simple logging error,
> you can bet I cop an attitude.

John, there are many of us radio wannabees out here
who could use a lot of advice.  I'm just another Joe
Blow with a Ramsey FM-10.  Instead of making you and
other knowledgable folks repeat themselves endlessly,
is there a book or publication that you (or anybody
else out there) could recommend that describes the
entire licensing process?  A lot of people don't have
a clue how to begin, so they look up the FCC in the
phone book, call the FCC, and get a bunch of mumbo-
jumbo that they interpret to mean "Absolutely no."
Surely there is a better way.  BTW, I run about ten
milliwatts into a discone that's out in the boonies.
Rural radio 88.1...
-- 
Mark Walsh (walsh@optilink) -- UUCP: uunet!optilink!walsh
AOL: BigCookie -- Amateur Radio: KM6XU@WX3K -- USCF: L10861
"What, me worry?" - William M. Gaines, 1922-1992
From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: pirate radio in the south bay
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:49:11 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Green Hills and Cows

In article <1992Nov21.191134.6963@netcom.com> ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin) writes:

>We (the students of KJCC..) have been busting our ass's for years trying
>to get the district to apply for a license.  And they wont budge.  So 
>basicly this is what they had us do.  They were FULLY aware of it, and
>if you look in the SJCC schedule of classes in the middle of it, there is
>an add for the station.  They are too cheap (or dont have the cash) to
>fork out for some $$$$$ to apply/maintain a licensed station...  

Is San Jose City College full of a bunch of unenlightened morons or
what? Have you ever heard of KCEA (formerly KMAH) in Menlo Park? This
is a fully-licensed station in the educational band operating out of
Menlo-Atherton High School. Money? The district has not spent one
single dime supporting the station. The students and faculty advisor
hustled grants, donations, and even put in a little of their own money.

The station is now equipped with emergency power, has a very nice
studio facility, and owns quite a bit of RPU equipment (for which it
also holds licenses). Now I look at it this way: If a bunch of high
school students can get an act together and create a real, FCC-licensed
FM station from nothing, there is no excuse for "KJCC", an uninspired
bootleg attempt if there ever was one.

Attitude? You bet. As a broadcast engineer I am painfully aware of the
line my clients must tow to keep from getting fines and worse from the
FCC. When a bunch of radio wannabees just short-circuit the process
claiming poverty, and then whine when someone finally blows the whistle
after one of my REAL stations is gigged because of a simple logging error,
you can bet I cop an attitude.

What's the matter over at SJCC? No creativity? No inventiveness? No
inspiration? So no one wants to bother with the formalities of a
broadcast license. Do they teach courses in embezzlement over there for
those who do not want to bother to learn how to work?

You might also be interested to know that I and other area engineers
have given assistance and old equipment to KCEA. It is fun to see an
enterprizing group of young people in action. But you would not get the
time of day out of me for a blatantly illegal bootleg operation.

>oh and btw.... what frequency do you suggest?

Whatever it is, license it. Or don't you have the powers and abilities
of a bunch of high school students?
-- 
 John Higdon  |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115     |       FAX:
 john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407
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From: ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin)
Subject: Re: pirate radio in the south bay
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 06:58:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.000512.8082@kumr.lns.com> pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) writes:
>ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin) writes:
>   I would think this is so.  Unfortunatly, we can't tell the folks that
>have Arbitron diaries to get better receivers. :-)
>
Well you could..  But dont expect to get a good share... :)

>    I'm sure a number of folks would have happily freely given you
>consultaion regarding engineering and prepared your apps.  I have done that
>for a number of community and college stations.  I am a very big supporter
>of community and college stations.  When this all blows over, give me a
>ring and I will try to help you get a legit station license.

Acually.  Free advice, and stuff isnt the problem at this point.  Its the
"we are a beurcracy and we do things slow".  Also, they dont have the money
to do "stuff" that would be required to have it.  Frankly, I think if we
had a license that it could be worked out.... But thats the way it happens.
thanks for the offer though.>

>>oh and btw.... what frequency do you suggest?
>   Give me a call, I certainly don't want to look like I was aiding an
>illegal operation.  :-)
>
Heheheh...  I will give you a ring.

>             Tim
>
>-- 
>Internet: pozar@kumr.lns.com               FidoNet:  Tim Pozar @ 1:125/555
>UUCP:     ...!uunet!kumr.lns.com!pozar
>Snail:    Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA
>Voice:    +1 415 788 2022


-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
Steve Rubin			    ser@netcom.com
KARA/KLIV, KJCC		            In search of a job.....
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,alt.radio.pirate
From: ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin)
Subject: Re: pirate radio in the south bay
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:00:19 GMT

In article <77HmuB1w165w@shakala.com> donh@shakala.com (Don Hackler) writes:
>
>Tim, Steve ...
>   Drop me a note (donh@shakala.com) when you want to get serious
>about helping these guys set up something legal.  I'm a broadcast
>engineer (currently working in the computer industry... the pay
>is better) that would be happy to help any non commercial station
>with this sort of thing.

Thanks for the offer.  Can you do me a favor (both you and Tim). 
Can you call our advisor at 408-298-2181 x3929, and leave him
a message.  Maybe if enough people call (including the guy that
we thought was on the other side, so to speak) he might be a 
little more tougher with the guys on the board.>

-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
Steve Rubin			    ser@netcom.com
KARA/KLIV, KJCC		            In search of a job.....
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From: weaver@sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,rec.music.misc,ba.music,ba.general
Subject: Join KFJC  -  Winter Quarter Enrollment
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:11:28 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sony Advanced Video Technology Center



The broadcasting program at Foothill College - which operates KFJC,
the raddest college radio station west of New Jersey - is open to
everyone.  Quite a number of people have passed thru KFJC to jobs in
commercial radio and the music biz.  Lots of people do shows for fun.


KFJC always needs: Music programmers, News people, Sports people,
Production whizzes, Engineers of various kinds, Salesfolk (really!),
Shmoozers-of-promoters, and on and on.  Actually 93% of the station
business goes on "off-mic" so there's no need to be shy of the public
if you think you might want to learn radio.

For those without radio experience, the intro course Radio 80 covers
the radio business and concepts.  It can be taken concurrently with...

Radio 90 is the station operation course, in which is taught How We Do
It Here, including some hands-on writing and recording assignments.
This course can be passed early by completing all the assignments and
taking the exam.

After Radio 90, the station is your lab.  8 or so weeks of
apprenticeship as a DJ (quicker for the experienced) gets you on the
air by yourself.  And there's NEVER a shortage of stuff to do.

-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
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