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From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Spain-Poland discussion
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:27:01 GMT
	<1992Aug15.015200.120@morrow.stanford.edu>
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Angel" == Angel Puerta (puerta@mcs)

Angel> I know that in your mind it is impossible to envision how your
Angel> Polish Adonis could possibly be beaten in an athletic event by
Angel> Spanish Quasimodos without a worldwide conspiracy, but believe
Angel> me, it happens. Jusk ask Hitler.

OK, folks, the nazi word is out. Everybody go home -- clear the
street, clear the street.  There nothing more happening here, time to
go home. On your way, ladies and gentlemen.


Now, for those who are not familiar with the more peculiar sides of
news: It is a fact of life the from time to time (all the time?) a
debate will degenerate into a flamewar, where all parties seems to
have long since forgotten what it was all about, where the idea is
simply to prove superiority to the other participants, and where
no-one gives a damn about fact or fiction. It is at times difficult to
know in the heat of the moment when we are merely having a lively but
heated discussion and when we have a senseless flame. There are,
though, a few well-known indicators. 

One of the best of these is the "nazi" word. At some point in a true
flamewar it is inevitable that someone will pull some kind of
reference to Nazi {ideas, persons, methods, whatever} -- always out of
the blue and always in order to somehow make someone else look bad.
This is a clear sign that the flamewar has long since moved past the
realms of reason, logic, and argument. There is, therefore, no point
at all in continuing. You cannot argue, since there is no way to argue
with nonsense, and you cannot point out the unreasonable behaviour of
the poster since it will just allow the flamer to sidestep into more
senseless drivel. It has been proved many times over that the only
sensible thing to do is -- *STOP*.


Everybody go home -- clear the street, clear the street.  There
nothing more happening here, time to go home. On your way, ladies and
gentlemen.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Belgian League. round 2
Originator: collins@prl.philips.nl
Organization: Philips Research Labs (Nat Lab), Eindhoven, The Netherlands.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:19:21 GMT

League round 2
Games played 14/8, 15/8 and 16/8.

 Germinal Ekeren   0 Club Brugge       3
		     Staelens (2)
		     Verheyen

 Standard Luik     2 Boom              1
 Asselman            Lukaku
 Bettagno

 SK Beveren        2 Royal Antwerp FC  0
 Lodders
 Nwanu

 Cercle Brugge     2 FC Luik           2
 Karacic(2)          Machiels
		     Arnold

 Racing Genk       1 Lokeren SK        2
 Goots               Meszaros
		     Myyry
 
 RSC Anderlecht    3 RWD Molenbeek     2
 Versavel(2)         Lorincz
 Degryse             Wawa

 AA Gent           1 Lommel            0
 Vandenbergh

 Lierse SK         1 Charleroi         2
 Rekdal              Marciniak
		     Zetterberg

 Waregem SV        0 KV Mechelen       1
		     Eijkelkamp

First League table after next week's games.


League Scorers (as per 16-8-92).
1. Versavel (KV Mechelen)       3 goals;


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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: Supercup of the Netherlands
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:06:36 GMT

In <1992Aug13.150500.29547@fel.tno.nl> leeh7@fel.tno.nl (E.w.a. van Leeuwen) writes:
>The Supercup of the Netherlands has been won by Philips SV
>(former PSV) by a 1-0 victory over Feyenoord. The goal
>was scored in the 25th minute by a shot from Erwin Koeman.

In the Netherlands it's still PSV(for the time being), it's only in Europe that 
PSV will be known as Philips SV.

Why can't they just leave it as PSV ?.



-- 
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                  | Eindhoven. The Netherlands.
 /    /     /     | Dept : CAD Support. Building : WAY. Tel : +31-40-744091. 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,rec.sport.olympics
From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Man City 1 QPR 1
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:30:09 GMT
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia


In article <seanb.714154167@cs.man.ac.uk> seanb@cs.man.ac.uk (Sean Bechhofer) writes:
>
>
>	MAN CITY 1		Q.P.R. 1
>	White			Sinton
>

* match report deleted *


Yes I KNOW I've done it too now, but you did it first ...


*PLEASE*

*DO*

*NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT !!!!*

*POST*

*RESULTS*

*IN*

*SUBJECT*

*LINES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * 


Honestly, it's been condemned by all and sundry on this newsgroup and, if
you continue to do it, you'll be crucified.

Enough said.


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EX-University of Sydney /      \ |  Lord more clearly seen than in the  
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ak530@po.cwru.edu             v  |  still oppose him." Haldir, Lord Of The Rings
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: weymouth@percpt.enet.dec.com (Don Weymouth)
Subject: Re: FIFA Rule for USA Colleges
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:46:30 GMT


In article <1992Aug18.200947.21243@cas.org>, dci57@cas.org () writes...
>	Can someone please tell me if the "FIFA backpass rule" will be enforced
>this fall for Division 1 colleges, particularly the Big Ten Conference (Ohio
>State, Penn State, Michigan State, Indiana and Wisconsin)?
> 
>	What about Division 1 high schools?
> 
We're told in Massachusetts that this rule is for EVERYONE.

Don

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From: ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Dundee (Was Re:Scottish Champions Match-Up 15-8-92)
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:04:42 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Aug19.082854.4160@rdg.dec.com> spain@galvia.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>Religious differences in English football are also a thing of the past.
>

Recently a friend of mine who works in Wales informed me that after meeting
a Liverpudlian recently he asked, as he thought, the relatively innocent
question about which team he supported.  The Scouser looking disturbed
denied supporting Liverpool because he was Catholic.  My friend was
puzzled, as was I when I heard, because in Ireland neither of us had
ever heard anything about there being religious differences between 
Liverpool and Everton fans.


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+    born in the holy land of Indiana,      + Dept of Chemical Engineering, +
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+      B'fhearr liom bheith ag eitilt.      +    ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu   +
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From: sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Maidstone United
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:42:14 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <0095F459.DB89DE00@vax.nott.ac.uk> ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot) writes:
>Maidstone United yesterday (17th Aug) resigned from the football league
>with debts of 650,000 +  The football league says they are going to re-draw
>the 3rd division fixture list, which should cause plenty of chaos, and render
>all printed fixture lists useless. I'm sure there is someone in a better
>posistion on the net to give Maidstone a proper send-off, but here's a full
>list of clubs that have left the football league for one reason or another.

I used to be an avid Stones fan for many years and I think its sad after the
years of effort trying to get into the league and failing because "Kent
couldn't support two league teams" have served no purpose apart from, I dare say it, bring back a case for election into the league. 
I still think something fishy was going on, who in their right mind would give the managers job to someone who actively campaigned against them joining the league in the first place.

Does this mean me dads copy of the single "Stones, stones, come on you stones" will rocket it value?

ho-hum, calv
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From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: *** MARADONA (present & future) ***
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:38:34 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

From: Antonio Maiuolo  20, 1992 4:41PM

Hello World! It's really time to say stop to Maradona. he thinks he's god
because all the money he has. He's been trated like a king from napoli s.s.c.
and, in spite of that, he's been behaving like a jerk outside the field.
So I think Napoli has every right to keep maradona outside the field for all
the time that the contract allows them to do. He's has to understand that
he also has to respect the rules. OK napoli, keep him out!!!!
Antonio

================================================================

Agreed!

This behavior only lessens what little respect soccer fans have for him.

He must return to the sport for the sport.  Not to fullfill selfish goals.

Francis.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: World Cups 1930-1990 (was Wanted)
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:39:26 GMT

In article <9208171355.aa26406@ingate.microsoft.COM> t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci) writes:
>List of the...
>
>1.  Sites of past WC finals.
>2.  Years.
>3.  Countries in the final.
>4.  Scores.
>5.  Winner.
>
>Also, if not asking too much, respective info for 3rd and 4th place finishers.
>
>Thanks.
>Francis.



1930 (in Uruguay, Final in Montevideo, Attendance 90,000):
	1st	Uruguay		4
	2nd	Argentina	2

	3rd	-
	4th	-

	(No third-place game.  Semi-finals were:
	 Argentina 6, USA 1   and   Uruguay 6, Yugoslavia 1)


1934 (in Italy, Final in Rome, Attendance 55,000):
	1st	Italy		(1) 2	[after extra time]
	2nd	Czecholovakia	(1) 1

	3rd	Germany		3
	4th	Austria		2


1938 (in France, Final in Paris, Attendance 65,000):
	1st	Italy		4
	2nd	Hungary		2

	3rd	Brasil		4
	4th	Sweden		2


1950 (in Brasil)
	Final Pool
                        P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
	Uruguay		3  2  1  0  7  5  5
	Brasil		3  2  0  1 14  4  4
	Sweden		3  1  0  2  6 11  2
	Spain		3  0  1  2  4 11  1

	(Sweden 3, Spain 1 in penultimate Final Pool game and
	 Uruguay 2, Brasil 1 in ultimate Final Pool game, attendance
	 199,850 at Maracana Stadium)


1954 (in Switzerland, Final in Berne, Attendance 55,000):
	1st	West Germany	3
	2nd	Hungary		2

	3rd	Austria		3
	4th	Uruguay		1


1958 (in Sweden, Final in Stockholm, Attendance 49,737):
	1st	Brasil		5
	2nd	Sweden		2

	3rd	France		6
	4th	West Germany	3


1962 (in Chile, Final in Santiago, Attendance 69,068):
	1st	Brasil		3
	2nd	Czechoslovakia	1

	3rd	Chile		1
	4th	Yugoslavia	0


1966 (in England, Final in London, Attendance 93,000):
	1st	England		(2) 4	[after extra time]
	2nd	West Germany	(2) 2

	3rd	Portugal	2
	4th	Soviet Union	1


1970 (in Mexico, Final in Mexico City, Attendance 110,000):
	1st	Brasil		4
	2nd	Italy		1

	3rd	West Germany	1
	4th	Uruguay		0


1974 (in West Germany, Final in Munich, Attendance 80,000):
	1st	West Germany	2
	2nd	Netherlands	1

	3rd	Poland		1
	4th	Brasil		0


1978 (in Argentina, Final in Buenos Aires, Attendance 77,000):
	1st	Argentina	(1) 3	[after extra time]
	2nd	Netherlands	(1) 1

	3rd	Brasil		2
	4th	Italy		1


1982 (in Spain, Final in Madrid, Attendance ?):
	1st	Italy		3
	2nd	West Germany	1

	3rd	Poland		3
	4th	France		2


1986 (in Mexico, Final in Mexico City, Attendance ?):
	1st	Argentina	3
	2nd	West Germany	2

	3rd	France		(?) 4	[after extra time]
	4th	Belgium		(?) 2


1990 (in Italy, Final in Rome, Attendance ?):
	1st	West Germany	1
	2nd	Argentina	0

	3rd	Italy		2
	4th	England		1



Hope this helps.  Cheers!


-- 
Garry Archer Esq.	archer@hsi.com
3M Health Information Systems,	Wallingford, Connecticut, U.S.A.

"An Englishman never enjoys himself, except for a noble purpose." - A.P.Herbert
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Backpass tested on u17 world championships
Date: 14 Aug 1992 18:08:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I read that a similar rule was tested, however, FIFA was going to allow 
backpasses to be made *inside*  the penalty box.

I think I would have prefered this approach.  This would force a 
defender to carry the ball all the way to the penatly box.

Of course if the existing law doesn't work they can always downgrade it 
slightly to the originaly proposed idea above.

Francis.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cczcole@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Subject: Re: Dundee (Was Re:Scottish Champions Match-Up 15-8-92)
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 11:26:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.080448.13825@rdg.dec.com> spain@galvia.enet.dec.com () writes:
>--
>
>....  Everton
>were considered a "Catholic" side.  Both sign players irrespective of
>religion and both have many protestant and Catholic supporters now.  I
>would like to see Everton see a black player though.
>

Me too - though it seems they're at least trying these days - they equalled
the offer for Dion Dublin apparently, but he chose, perhaps unwisely following
last Wednesday evening :-) to go elsewhere....

Cheers,
		Marlon
From: EC33@lafibm.lafayette.edu (EC33)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: reply to Carlos (long, 1.5 pages)
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:18:38 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <1992Aug19.155525.24349@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
>In article <2A91DF8B.20361@ics.uci.edu> fkhoury@ics.uci.edu (Diego A. Maradona) writes:
>>
>>Stop posting wrong and misleading information, Francis, Will ya?
>>
>>Argentina was in the FIRST final of the FIRST WORLD CUP ever when they
>>lost to Urguay in 1932.  Adding that to 1978, 1982, 1986 and 1990 will give
>>a result of 5 times (Assuming you know how to add).
>>Maybe it is a better idea for people to familiarize themselves with soccer
>>before they do any posting.  This network is for those who are familiare
>>and know, if not too much, at least something about soccer.
>>
>>
>>           Have a good time looking up correct info., Francis
>>
>>                                Fuad
>>
Come on Fuad, don't accuse people of posting wrong information when you
do the same thing.
For your info, the first worldcup was in 1930 and not in 1932.  Also
Argentina did not reach the World Cup final in 1982.  They went to
Spain '82 and lost in the 2nd round.
Instead of posting articles this long, spend some time looking up
correct info.
**********************************************************************
Carlos Escobar
E-MAIL:EC33@LAFAYACS.BITNET

>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: FIFA propoesed changes to (OCEANIA) Southern America
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:59:38 GMT

In article <16r5phINN4nd@agate.berkeley.edu> 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
>Well, I vaguely remember Cubillas' Peru making the playoffs once; ...
> ...
>As for Paraguay, I do not think they ever quali-
>fied to the finals in recent history; ...
> ...
>-- 
>Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley


Peru last played in 1982:

        Group 1 (finished 4th):
                Peru            0,      Cameroon        0
                Italy           1,      Peru            1
                Poland          5,      Peru            1

Peru also played in the 1930, 1970 and 1978 finals - results provided 
on request.  Cubillas played in the 1970, 1978 and 1982 finals.  Impressive!


Paraguay played as recently as 1986 (i.e. only 2 WCs ago):

        Group B (finished 2nd):
                Paraguay        1,      Iraq            0
                Mexico          1,      Paraguay        1
                Belgium         2,      Paraguay        2

        Second Round (round of 16):
                England         3,      Paraguay        0

Paraguay also played in the 1930, 1950 and 1958 finals - results provided 
on request.

I'm not taking sides in any argument :-)  Just giving the facts!

	Cheers!


-- 
Garry Archer Esq.	archer@hsi.com
3M Health Information Systems,	Wallingford, Connecticut, U.S.A.

"An Englishman never enjoys himself, except for a noble purpose." - A.P.Herbert
From: csfraw@vehka.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Polska liga, round 3
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:34:04 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@vehka.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <1992Aug21.070756.29624@fuw.edu.pl> michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper) writes:
>In article <6399@kielouta.fi> csfraw@vehka.uta.fi (Francis Akoto) writes:
>>
>>>P.S. Does anybody read this? Waiting for your answer.
>>
>>Yes and No. Are there any foreign players in the Polish league. I may read it
>>if there are, otherwise  ............ :-(
>
>Sorry, Francis. There are no Finnish players in the Polish league

Boy, you sure do make false conclusions. I never said i was a Finn. The fact 
that the node i use is in Finland does not mean i am a Finn.

>(unless somewhere in 3rd. division). :->

I wonder if even the first division clubs have enough money to pay them ;-)
eat your words.



--
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From: EC33@lafibm.lafayette.edu (EC33000)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FIFA proposed changes to (OCEANIA) Southern America
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:31:25 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <FISCHER.92Aug18053107@steiner.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
>
>>>>>> "Ken" == shadlin  (shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu)
>
>Ken> It is hardly a "free" spot for the holder-- they won the World Cup.
>
>Whatever. I used "free" to refer to the fact that this spot is not
>counted when deciding should go to Europe, S.America, etc., as far as
>I know. You can say "extra" or "bonus" if you like that better.
>
>/Lars
>--
>.
 The champion seems to count  when determining how many teams will go to
 to the World Cup.  I am not very familiar with how it works in Europe
 but in South America it has worked like this:
       In Mexico '86 when Italy was defending champion Argentina, Brazil
Uruguay and Paraguay went for South America.
       In Italy '90 when Argentina was the defending champion Colombia,
Brazil and Uruguay went for South America.
  I'm not sure if this happened because FIFA changed the Number of
representatives from each continent, or that the Champion spot is
considered as a spot for the continent.  If the Champion spot had
been a bonus then South america should have had 5 teams in the World
Cup (which seems excessive to me anyway).
***********************************************************************
 Carlos Escobar
 E-MAIL:EC33@LAFAYACS.BITNET
>.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: leeh7@fel.tno.nl (E.w.a. van Leeuwen)
Subject: Supercup of the Netherlands
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:05:00 GMT

The Supercup of the Netherlands has been won by Philips SV
(former PSV) by a 1-0 victory over Feyenoord. The goal
was scored in the 25th minute by a shot from Erwin Koeman.


						Regards,
						
						Ed.

						
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Ed van Leeuwen                        |  Ed W.A. van Leeuwen
FEL-TNO                               |  TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
's-Gravenhage                         |  The Hague, the Netherlands
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Geographical reference:
	Ajax		-	Amsterdam
	Feyenoord	-	Rotterdam
	P(hilips) SV	-	Eindhoven
	TNO-FEL		-	in the centre of these locations
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: LA Friendship Cup
Date: 3 Aug 92 19:19:34 GMT
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <9208031854.AA26621@garnet.berkeley.edu> shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:
>
>A brief report on the four-team cup played this past weekend
>in Los Angeles.
>
>Friday:  Colombia 1- USA 0
>The Colombians thoroughly dominated the game, but (surprise, surprise)
>had a great deal of trouble scoring.
  The goal came in the first half
>on a nice individual run and finish by Valencia (not Valenciano), who
>actually was pretty disapointing throughout.  This was as bad as I can
>remember seeing a US team look: disorganized, lethargic, unconfident.

>Brazil 1- USA 0
>Not a very good game either.  USA played hard and usually had nine players
>behind the ball.  Quite a difference for Brazil than against Mexico!  Bebeto
>scored after a nice pass by Rai with about 15 minutes left.  The US players,
>clearly frustrated to lose twice in a row without scoring, started to 
>attack more after the goal and perhaps should have been awarded a 
>penalty when Hugo Perez was taken down in the last few minutes.
>
To use a tired cliche, I think this shows you "what a funny old game
soccer is". 1-0 defeats by Colombia and Brasil don't look too bad on
paper, but the reality was rather different. In both games, the U.S.
was totally outclassed by the opposition and never looked like scoring
in a month of Sundays. I can only remember one clear-cut scoring chance 
over the two games. Meola can be the only US player to come out of
these games with much satisfaction over their performance. I've always
been a Meola critic, but he played very solidly in both games,
particularly against Brasil. Looks like Snow's going to get his chance
soon if the US's goal drought continues. And, of course, the only goal in the
Brasil game was during a SportsChannel commercial break...

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: craa26@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( J.McAllister)
Subject: Re: Did New Zealand really beat Scotland in 1982 ???
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:25:49 GMT


No.

The score was Scotland 5 New Zealand 2.

John McAllister