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From: dir2@gte.com (Dean Radin)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: Updated LOST-NO-MORE LIST!
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:44:21 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

Richard S. Guse has listed some psi laboratories.  
A more up-to-date list for sources of information 
would include:

Rhea White
Parapsychology Sources of Information
2 Plane Tree Lane
Dix Hills, NY  11746
{A nearly complete archive of anything and
everything to do with psi and beyond.  Highly
recommended.}

American Society for Psychical Research
5 West 73rd Street
New York, NY   10023
212-799-5050
{One of the oldest US organizations for the
scientific study of psychic phenomena.}
  
Institute for Parapsychology
Foundation for the Research on the Nature of Man
P.O. Box 6847, Duke Station
Durham, NC   27708
919-688-8241
{The lab started by J. B. Rhine at Duke Univ.  Now
an independent organization.  Offers an excellent
summer study program.}
 
Mind Science Foundation
8301 Broadway, Suite 100
San Antonio, TX  78209
512-821-6094
{Independently funded lab involved in psi and other
frontier-science applications.}

Active researchers can be found at many universities
and colleges, including:
 
St. John's University, Jamaica, NY
Univ of California at Davis, CA
Univ of Virginia Med School, Charlottesville, VA
Univ of Idaho, Moscow, ID
Princeton University, Princeton, NJ
MIT, Cambridge, MA
Cornell, Ithaca, NY
Univ. of Utrecht, Netherlands
Univ. of Edinburgh, Scotland

Organizations with overlapping scientific and medical-related interests
include the Society for Scientific Exploration (annual meeting at 
Princeton U this year in June), and the International Society for the 
Study of Subtle Energy and Energy Medicine (annual meeting in 
Boulder in June). 

The main scientific society for the study of parapsychological
phenomena is the Parapsychological Association, an affiliate of
the AAAS since 1969, and the only AAAS-affiliate specifically devoted
to the scholarly and scientific study of anomalous perceptual and
energetic phenomena.

Many active researchers have internet (or bitnet) email paths,
and many read this newsgroup. For more info, email directly
to me (radin@gte.com).
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Dr. Puthoff: Information Wanted About His Past Work in PSI
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:00:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.f#qjsqk.noring
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Hello,

Dr. Puthoff has recently published several papers in Stochastic Electrodynamics
in several refereed physics journals.  His work is very interesting and may
lead to new methods of energy storage and conversion.

However, several physicists have commented to me that Dr. Puthoff also was
involved in PSI research several years ago while he was at SRI, and alluded to
the possibility that he (or his associates) may have faked data.  Whatever
happened, it sure must have been controversial.

Anyway, I'd like to get more information about what happened from both sides of
the issue.  References to magazine and journal articles about this controversy
would be most appreciated.

Jon Noring


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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 20:14:02 EDT
From: The Xanadian <IO10081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: Fire Starting

On the preceeding article:  please POST! :)  Or you can email me too.
There, I said it.  No more wasting of bandwidth for me... for now, ennyways.
*grin*
From: campbell3789@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Paranormal Video Phenomenon
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:49:31 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON PARANORMAL VIDEO PHENOMENON.  I SAW A SHOW
PRODUCED BY HENRY (THE FONZ) WINKLER.  MY FRIEND HAD TAPED IT OFF THE ARTS AND
ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL I THINK.  ANYWAY, THEY SAID THE LEADING EXPERT WAS A
GERMAN NAMED KLAUS SCHREIBER.  I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION ON BOOKS OR
ANYTHING OF INFORMATIVE VALUE ON THIS SUBJECT.  

KRIS CAMPBELL
From: EEMA092@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Fire Starting
Date: 4 Apr 92 03:39:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92094.223918EEMA092
Organization: University of Maine System

A new thread: has anyone here heard of incidents of "fire starting"??
I refer to the type of event where an individual thinks of a certain kind
of fire, and that fire mysteriously, spontaneously (so it would seem) starts
of its own accord.

I know of someone to whom this supposedly happened. The event took place in
the company of two witnesses. A certain (female, if you're curious) indiv-
idual had been considering lighting a candle on the table at a night club
for several hours when the candle suddenly came to life.

I would be extremely interested in any theories as to how this may have
happened, whether of the skeptical scientific sort, or of the far-out
paranormal sort. (I've learned to exclude *nothing*). Email is fine, but
post if you want...

Anyone, anyone?
jeff, eema092@maine
From: hawleylm@apple.com (Lorin Hawley)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: paranormal experiences?!
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:01:36 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer

I had two normal experiences yesterday.

Does that qualify as a paranormal experience?


- Lorin Hawley
From: Rick.Moen@f207.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Rick Moen)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Studying Psi in the us
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:48:16 GMT

In article <7APR199209532141@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu>,
lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) writes as follows:

JJL>  Doesn't John F. Kennedy University still have a parapsychology program?
   >  And didn't Jeffrey Mishlove get a parapsychology Ph.D. from Berkeley?

Correct on both counts.  Mishlove got his degree through some variety
of interdisciplinary study, if memory serves, and he currently helps
put together a program, somewhat related to the subject, on public
radio.

Best Regards,              "In the struggle between you and the world,
Rick Moen                   back the world."
Vice-Chair, Bay Area Skeptics                 -- Frank Zappa

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From: dir2@gte.com (Dean Radin)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: Dr. Puthoff: Information Wanted About His Past Work in PSI
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:26:09 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <e6sViB4w164w@cellar.org>, revpk@cellar.org (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano) writes:
> 
> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
> > 
> > However, several physicists have commented to me that Dr. Puthoff also was
> > involved in PSI research several years ago while he was at SRI, and alluded t
> > the possibility that he (or his associates) may have faked data.  Whatever
> > happened, it sure must have been controversial.
> > 
>         Well, having 'faked' data is a pretty strong charge; let's just say 
> that Puthoff was a little less than forthcoming when critics requested 
> material regarding his experiments.
> 
Flame on...

It is fascinating to watch revisionist history in the making.  
Normally I don't comment on things that appear in sci.skeptics or 
alt.paranormal because email is the worst possible medium in which
to discuss controversial topics.  However, as I am well acquainted 
with Hal Puthoff and his psi research (I worked with Hal at SRI), it
pains me to read such distortions.  I will not repeat what I know
about this research because no one is likely to believe me anyway.  

Instead I will simply assert that Marks and Kammann's style of
"investigation," which nicely reflects the standard CSICOP mentality, is an 
**extreme position** and should be recognized as acknowledged as such.  The 
extremist view of the world is about as far as one can get from a neutral 
or balanced position, and re-interpretations of history and science 
methodology are as susceptible to extremist revisions as anything else.

Some day I may be enticed into setting the record straight, but I have
better things to do.

Flame off.
From: M..Stirner@f207.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (M. Stirner)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Ouija
Date: 5 Apr 92 03:15:30 GMT

RM>|> Following the anti-Ouija trend of alt.magick, let me start by saying IF
RM>|> YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, Ouija is dangerous.

Well I dunno, or particularly care, for that matter, but I _do_ hope
the assembled witnessed Letterman getting a professional Ouijaist to
advise him on paving his driveway last night [3-IV-92].  It was also
humorous that the "spirits" dissed Dave with a "QUEER" response. 8-)
.   A particularly entertaining Ouija interlude came in a TV interview
with NWA [rap group, "Niggahs With Attitudes"] in the home of one of
their members.  Seems the boys had been playing with a Ouija board & had
managed to get themselves good & scared.  It was hilarious.
.   I got a Ouija board as a gift when I was a kid.  I still have it,
but was never able to get it to do anything more dynamic than gather
dust.  Believers of all stripes have become exasperated with my
spirit-repelling qualities.  Darn us skeptics, anyway... 8-)
.   ~
.   M.

   
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From: wjames@cse.ucsc.edu (John Amenta)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Normal Experiences being Paranormal
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:28:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
Originator: wjames@spica



>I had two normal experiences yesterday.
>
>Does that qualify as a paranormal experience?
>
>
>- Lorin Hawley
 
 I have seen it written that "Nature, without nature's source, would
 not last a moment."

 Don't you think just existing, and there being an actual reality is
 pretty damn incredible in itself??  I mean, where did all this come
 from?? :)  

 Your thoughts come to you but how?  Reality exists but what makes it
 so?  The sun rises but who can really tell why it exists and does so?
 You smile and you laugh when you see old photographs of forgotten
 lovers or forgotten picnics on the beach, but how did such emotions 
 come to be? I believe that every breath you take is paranormal.

 Of course your scientists will explain there is a reason for the
 sun, or there is a chemical reaction for your emotion.  They speak
 of causality, and accidental evolution.  But tell me, what caused
 the Big Bang, and what do you think are the chances that something
 as incredible complex as our brain just happened to evolve accidently?
 If you believe that a tornado could go through a junk-yard and create
 a jumbo-jet, then maybe you might believe we ourselves are the products
 of pure accidental conglamerations of chemicals and molecules.

 Nah.  Occult blood runs through are veins.  Unless you really do
 believe
 all of this is accidental.  But maybe it is.  I hope with all hope
 it is not.
From: fsrsg@acad3.alaska.edu (Richard S. Guse)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: LOST-NO-MORE LIST!  *smirk*
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:19:48 GMT
Organization: Psi INc.

I know about system purging!  that's for sure...it's handy to have
a few accounts as backup!  mine was actually displaced, but it's
still on the local next...still haven't found monroe's citations...*ick*


PSI LABORATORIES:                                       1978(old...I know...)

Chester E. Carlson Research Laboratoery
American Society for Psychical Research
5 West 73rd Street
New York, NY   10023

Center for Parapsychological Research
P.O. Box 5591
Austin, TX   78763

Institute for Parapsychology
Foundation for the Research on the Nature of Man
P.O. Box 6847, Duke Station
Durham, NC   27708

Division of Parapsychology and Psychophysics
Department of Psychiatry
Maimonides Medical Center
4802-10th Street
Brooklyn, NY   11219

Mind Science Foundation
102 West Rector, #209
San Antonio, TX   78216

Psychical Research Foundation
Duke Station
Durham, NC   27706


PSI RESEARCHERS MAY ALSO BE FOUND AT:


Department of Psychology
City College of the City of New York
New York, NY   10010

Psi Communications Project
Newark College of Engineering
323 High Street
Newark, NJ   07102

Parapsychology Laboratory
Saint Joseph's College
54th Street and City Line
Philadelphia, PA   19131

Department of Psychology
University of California
Davis, CA   95616

Radiation Field Photography Laboratory
Neuropsychiatric Institute
University of California
Los Angeles, CA   90024

Tutorial Program
University of California
Santa Barbara, CA   93106

Division of Parapsychology
Department of Psychiatry
University of Virginia Medical School
Charlottesville, VA   22904

Electronics and Bioengineering Laboratory
Stanford Research Institute
333 Ravenswood Avenue
Menlo Park, CA   94025


INFORMATIONAL SOUCES

American Society of Psychical Research
5 West 73rd Street
New York, NY   10023

Central Premonitions Registry
Box 482 Times Square Station
New York, NY   10036

Council of Nurse-Healers
33 Ora Way
San Francisco, CA   94131

Parapsychology Foundation
29 West 57th Street
New York, NY   10019

The Parapsychological Association
P.O. Box 7503
Alexandria, VA   22307


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From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Alcor Nevada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 14:50:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Alcor Nevada will be meeting Sunday April 12th at 5 PM at the 
Riverside Casino owned by Don Laughlin in Laughlin, Nevada.  Don 
Laughlin will be attending our meeting.  The effect of cryonic 
suspension on the soul will be discussed.  For more info call Eric 
Klien at (702) 255-1355.  
 
Note that opinions of this discussion group do not necessarily 
reflect the views of the non profit organization Alcor.
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 18:03:44 CDT
From: <K317370@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: Cyberspace Dimensions
 <1992Apr3.135650.716@doug.cae.wisc.edu> <watpod62.702569920@cunews>
 <sbuckley.702625588@sfu.ca> <mortel.00b5@chose.cam.org>

We do seem to, in general, take the Gibsonian point of view
in the cspace thing, and I feel that one peice of terminology
from "Burning Chrome", the story, is highly relevent. The use
of a "Matrix Simulator" in the same room as the people interfacing.
That is, the representation of the space is defined by the user,
possibly, even probably, in some nice natural 3D way, probably in
a highly uniform way, since the unit would most often be a mass-
produced Nintendo or something, but the essential idea is that we
each get to define our own particular interpretation of the net.
No standards whatsoever. Which is cool.

There would probably be a whole pile of "standards", like a little
file called "what my node looks like in 3D" that almost everyone
would access, but I would not have to, I could decide that every
"node" or whatever, could look like a white box, or a penis, or whatever
I wanted.

Choice, always lots of choice.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: degroff@tricorder.IntelliCorp.COM (Les Degroff)
Subject: Re: Cyberspace Dimensions
Keywords: 
  In terms of math, advanced computer and network designs we can talk
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:48:44 GMT

about "dimensions" higher than 3... perhaps the appropriate thinking
tools is to tranfer to considering "degree's of freedom"  and/or
connective topology.  Several of the advanced parallel computing systems
are discussed and analyzed as hyper cube "connected".... a given
processor had immediate access (for communications and computation) to
more than 6 (cube faces) or 14 (cube faces +corners) other processors.
  Conching in terms of "hyperspace", degree's of freedom greater than
4 is required for almost all problems.  Even simply considering
objects in our normal 4 space has additional degree's of freedom over
simply considering points. 
  Asking the question is a good sign, as I say convert to "degree's
of freedom in system" and its no problem... serious contemplation
is futile, DOF's can be increased with out limit...:) How many angels
can dance on the head of a pin? :) How many modes, nodes and odes can
exsist? :) 
Les DeGroff
From: chmilar@Apple.COM (Michael Chmilar)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: Cyberspace Dimensions
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:54:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65050
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Cyberspace is based on the following:

    typedef struct { double x, y, z; } point;

Beyond the range of a double precision floating point number is "NaN".

Stop watching Star Trek.

Mike
From: 900377c@aucs.acadiau.ca (Robert Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Fusion
Summary: Groovy interface, seen it?
Keywords: GUI
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:29:19 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

Hi there. Awhile back someone mentioned a beta version of something
called Fusion, an FTP similar program that displayed directories
graphically. Has anyone seen it or tried it? What kind of memory does
this thing take? Just curious...

Rob Campbell, or 900377c@aucs.acadiau.ca
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: sourada@iastate.edu (Steven D Ourada)
Subject: Cyberspace and mindspace (Was Re: Cyberspace Dimensions)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:21:34 GMT

In <CTDONATH.92Apr8130745@rodan.syr.EDU> ctdonath@rodan.syr.EDU (Carl T. Donath) writes:

>You're focusing on the _physical_ aspects of cyberspace (wires, monitor, etc).

>Cyberspace is more a realm of ideas organized into software and presented
>to our limited senses. Its dimensions are arbitrary - just as long as it
>finally gets mapped onto one's rentas and/or eardrums (and hopefully other
>senses soon). When we observe fractals, that fractional dimension object
>is mapped onto a two-dimensional screen or page. Ditto with cyberspace.
>It's just an image mapping problem - make as many dimensions as you want.
>Fractional, even.

You're _still_ focusing on the physical aspects. The real mapping is one
from the ideas in the software to the ideas in our heads. I agree that the
dimensions are arbitrary, since our minds impose no dimensional barriers on
our thoughts.

That brings me to my main point:

The most enticing aspect of computers in an aesthetic sense is that they
are a so nearly perfect physical implementation of the metaphysical
world of logic. The only difference between programs running in a physical
computer and the abstract thoughts they represent is that the programs 
take nonzero time to execute. In the perfection of the thought-scape,
we think of 4*4 being 16 instantly. In a computer, though, there is a
transition time from 4*4 to 16.

This transition time is sometimes significant. For example, in the
abstract mathematical world, the hundred trillionth digit of pi exists
right now, at the same time all the infinity of other digits do. But 
in cyberspace, inside a computer, it takes a long time to get to the
hundred trillionth digit of pi.

So is cyberspace just mindspace with the restriction that nothing
is instantaneous and time comes in discreet bundles?


                     Later,
                       Steven Ourada
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: act31797@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Procrastinator  P1000)
Subject: Re: Cyberspace Query
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:26:00 GMT

chmilar@Apple.COM (Michael Chmilar) writes:
>schradwh@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>>What are the uses of VR? What is the extent of our abilites in this
>>feild right now.
>The state of existing, real VR technology is small.  Equipment consists of:
>- Eyephone:  a massive, heavy piece of headgear.  It creates a stereo
>  display by having a screen for each eye, on which images are displayed.
>  The screen resolution is really crappy.

Has anyone here heard of the "Private Eye", and could it find applications
in VR?  For those who don't know, the Private Eye is a device that has a
rapidly shifting mirror in front of your eye.  A LED light flashes at just
the right time so as to reflect off the mirror to form images (e.g. text)
on your eye--sort of like an inverse electron-beam TV.  The image appears
to be hovering in space in fron of you, kinda like a heads-up display.
Because it doesn't use pixels like the LCD's, resolution isn't a problem.
I first saw this product on the show "Beyond 2000" and later heard about it
on the Extropians email list.  On Beyond 2000 they said that it is currently
only available in 1 color (the LED they showed was red) but that the maker
was working on a color version.  I got the impression that the Private Eye
is mainly intended as a replacement to screens on laptops, and the version
shown was only for 1 eye (to leave the other one free).  If a color version
of the Private Eye were available and two were put together in a good VR
helmet, then it would seem you've got yourself an excellent visual system
with only a moderate increase in technology.
Anyone have more info on the Private Eye?

>- Datesuit:  like the glove, but for the whole body.

You mean Datasuit, don't you?  Datesuit would be for soc.singles and 
rec.arts.erotica.  :-)
Seriously, though, I didn't know we had come that far.  Do they have force
feedback like some gloves?  I imagine they'd cost a bundle too.
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