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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: "The Last Days of Man On Earth" (aka) "The Final Programme"
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1992 18:51:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul15.140940.6011@infonode.ingr.com>  
fitz@infonode.ingr.com (Patrick Fitzgerald) writes:
> dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
> 
> ><92196.223932DXH107@psuvm.psu.edu> <DXH107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >>
> >>I'd love to see the movie, but it has eluded me for too long.
> >>Please offer any suggestions you can.
> 
> >You may be able to find the film on laserdisc (presuming you have
> >access to a player). I've seen it in bargain bins for about $15.00
> >(this may mean it's out of print).
> 
> I rented it from Ballbuster, uh Blockbuster.
> 
> Not bad, low budget, pretty faithful to the story.

Really? (SPOILERS).......



What about the ending? I tried to find something similar in the book, but  
it seemed totally different. The movie ends with Cornelius turning into a  
proto-human, and everybody else in the lab was killed. I didn't quite  
follow the meaning, so I tried to find a similar scene in the book.  
Instead, the book has him turning in a god-like hyper-human, with a bunch  
of crazed, inspired followers collecting around him, and I think he does  
away with them somehow...getting real hazy here. Anyway, not sure these  
endings compare, and wonder what that means for the rest of the treatment.  
I also thought the movie was only OK, but worth seeing since I've heard  
about it forever. I have the Laser Disc version. I'd be happy to lend it  
out to folks if they pay postage, or I could even sell it...

AK

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:13:39 EDT
From: <PAK114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Evil Dead

In article <1992Jul26.181321.19423@wri.com>, andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre
Kuzniarek) says:
>
>Just saw Evil Dead II (finally!) and loved it! Does Evil Dead (I) have the
>same tongue-in-cheek sensibility (and groovy camera work?). I realize it
>was probably done on a shoestring budget. Can't find it in my local video
>places. Is it hard to find? What else has Raimi done, besides Darkman? I
>look forward to seeing Evil Dead III.

1. THE EVIL DEAD (I) is definately worth seeking out (although you shouldn't
   have to look very far). Whether it's better or worse than the second depends
   on whether your after the scares or the slapstick. For pure 'jump-out-of-
   your-seat' thrills there is NO better flick than ED1 but it doesn't have
   exactly the same sense of humor as #2. Also, all video cassettes of ED that
   I have ever seen (especially the ones you find at K-mart for $10) are very
   dark and grainy, it's better to see it in the theatre or on SHOWTIME.
2. Raimi's movies include ED1, CRIMEWAVE (well worth a look), EDII, DARKMAN and
   ED3:ARMY OF DARKNESS (as well as cameo's in MILLER'S CROSSING and INTRUDER).


CHAINSAW
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: Re: Bucket of BLOOD -- video news?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 11:47:03 EDT

In article <1992Jul27.104850.4376@verifone.com>
ken_p1@verifone.com writes:
 
>
>Is BUCKET OF BLOOD available on video?  I believe it was made around 1959 -
>sourrounds them with plaster turning them into gruesome scultures)
 
BOB is available from several different companies ... Rhino ($19.95 ..
$9.95 when on sale), Sinister Cinema ($16.95 + $2.05 s&h), and many
other public domain distributors.
 
Pete.
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:01:28 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <92204.192858PAK114@psuvm.psu.edu>, <PAK114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...

} Just one more quick note to add here, last month's issue of PREMIERE
} magazine says that this 'remastered, director's cut' of Scott's classic
} will be released on video later this month.

Either you read it wrong, or PREMIERE is full of shit. The new video
release of BLADE RUNNER is *not* the director's cut. It's merely the
same European theatrical release (has a few minutes of extra footage
trimmed out of the American release) that's been on video since day one.

The director's cut of BLADE RUNNER is supposed to be released TO THEATERS
across the country this fall.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Fans of really bad movies...
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:56:08 GMT
Reply-To: ken@netmail.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin


I was thinking the other day - there was a major debate raging
in reac.arts.movies about _Batman Returns_. I don't want to
discuss _BR_ here, but the debate made me think that I must be
the most forgiving viewer in the world. While others sit there
while they watch the film and groan and moan and point out the
most trivial flaws ("The snow didn't melt when it hit the water
in the basket sequence!"), I'll happily watch USA Up All Night
until it's over, or tape Mystery Science Theater 3000 and re-
watch episodes, or rent really cheap, poor films.

Simply put, I'll watch anything.

I've noticed there are a lot of others (in this group especially)
that are the same way. People recommend "Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl-o-Rama," or "Bloodsucking Pharoahs in Pittsburgh,"
or Russ Meyer or Herschell Gordon Lewis films without hesitation.
Sure, some "cult" movies are really great films - "Blade Runner,"
"Terminator" (both films), etc. But we seem to watch some real
stinkers - and enjoy them.

I am curious - how many others will watch just about anything put
before them? That's doesn't mean it's not O.K. to laugh, or make
fun of the film, but I will watch just about any grade Z movie
and *enjoy* it somehow. Do others do this?


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From: rtpo@jyu.fi (Risto Tapani Pohjonen)
Subject: Re: SHOGUN ASASSIN
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:13:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.153405.8318@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sql.sybase.com writes:

>SHOGUN ASSASSIN is a dubbed and rescored version of 1 and 2, as you
>said.

 Little note: SHOGUN ASSASSIN was edited & dupped by Roger Corman's
New World, and in his book 'How I made hundred movies and never lost
a dime' Corman says he liked the movie - or at least that scene where
Itto makes his son to choose between the toy and sword.

>I really dislike SHOGUN ASSASSIN; I hate the voice-overs and the
>music.  See the originals.  (Makes for a good marathon viewing
>session!  You'll be humming the `Ogami Itto' song for days...)

 I would, but it's a little bit hard here in Finland because of our
'progressive' censorship (and the video recording act) :-(

 Well, I've seen one of those original movies, called 'Japango'. I
don't know which one it was. Anyway there was a nice little fight
at the very end of the movie: Itto vs. 100 sword men :-) 

-- 
- Risto 'Rise' Pohjonen (rtpo@jyu.fi): I hate signatures !
From: primeaux@alphard.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Nekromantik and title search
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:20:11 GMT
Reply-To: primeaux@alphard.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
NNTP-Posting-Host: alphard.cs.utk.edu

In article <16833859F.PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:
|> In article <gsparaco.51@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu>
|> gsparaco@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu writes:
|>  
|> >
|> >In article <1992Jul28.152711.14757@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
|> >
|> >>Has anyone seen this film by the German director Joerg Buttgereit?
|> >
|> >>It's quite a show.  Kind of a "Gore as Art" kind of thing.  Very very
|> >>offensive and disgusting.
|> >
|> >>The most annoying thing was that whoever did the subtitles for the American
|> >>video had their heads firmly imbedded in their asses.  The titles are very
|> >>very small, and it is as if they were strategically placed on the screen
|> >>against white scenery in as many places as possible so as to be completely
|> >>unreadable.
|> >
|> >>This is a must see, but not after eating a large meal.
|> >
|> >>There is a sequel as well that I have not yet seen.
|> >
|> The new video version has clearer subtitles.  NEKROMANTIK 2 is a little
|> too slow in places, but still very graphic.  I liked DER TODESKING
|> better than NEK 2 ... about seven gory suicides.  JB continues to link
|> sex and death.
|>  
|> Pete.

I saw a gory (German) vampire movie a long time ago (15-20 years).
As I remember, the movie was based on actual events concerning a mass
murderer.  I know this is not much to go on, but can anyone suggest 
possible titles?

-- David
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From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: Re: Dario Argento
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:40:42 EDT

In article <1992Jul22.054801.14530@athena.mit.edu>
wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley) writes:
 
>
>
>Also, VSoM has PHENOMENA (released as CREEPERS in the US) in what they
>claim is "uncut" form.  According to Maltin, CREEPERS is 82 min and
>PHENOMENA is 110 min -- a considerable difference.  I'm almost
>certainly going to order this one.
>
>VSoM's version of DEEP RED (PROFUNDO ROSSO) is described as a "Euro
>composite" (whatever that means) and runs 105 minutes, compared to the
>US release of 98 minutes and the original which is 112 minutes...
>According to a posting here a while back this version is really bad.
>
Ed,
Beware of Video Search of Miami ....  All of their product is duped,
and is very poor.  You would be far better off buying the original
factory-boxed videos.  DEEP RED's original running time is actually
121 minutes!! so VSoM's 105 minute release is no big deal ...
especially for $25.  The Media version runs 100 minutes and the
quality is excellent (cost $19.95).  Also Domovideo and Eccentri-
Cinema have the complete uncut 121 minutes versions for $29.95 ...
(letterboxed)
What VSoM tends to do is edit video versions themselves on their
poor equipment, so you may actually be getting only 2 mintues more
of extra footage.  Of the 21 additional minutes between Media's and
the uncut versions, about 15 minutes are what I'd call filler ....
David Hemmings playing in his band, extra useless dialogue ...
about 5 minutes 30+ seconds is further plot development (which may
clear up some of the holes in the 100 minute version) and 30 seconds
or less of extra gore.  Re: the extra gore ... I think that there
might be one more hatchet chop during the opening murder of the
parapsychologist (no big deal here), two or three extra shots
during the scene where the killer's son is dragged along the street
by a truck (the cut version edits out the part where is head cracks
the curb and an oncoming vehicle crushes his head), and maybe three
seconds are added to the final elevator decapitation.
 
Re: PHENOMENA, I know that a foreign video distributor has released
the uncut version.  I don't know if it is a significant improvement
over the cut version.  You might try to order it from Video Vault
in Washington, DC at 1-800-vault66.  Cost - ???
 
Please let me know about the quality of the videos you order.
 
Thanks.  Pete.
From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Name that Movie, Part II
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:23:03 GMT
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

bobv@spike.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Bob von Buelow) writes:

>In article <27JUL199214532454@jane.uh.edu> vpaf5@jane.uh.edu (Kal) writes:
>>Sean Connery is the administrator or a lunar colony, and the 'company' is trying
>>to kill him. The send an assasin to get him. Connery has the help of a scrappy
>>but kindly woman doctor. This is a recent movie (past 10 years, I guess.)
>>I saw it once a long time ago. WHAT IS IT CALLED?
>>Thanks.

>Outland.  Sean Connery is the law officer, not administrator.  It is on
>a mood of Jupiter or Saturn and therefore is not a lunar (luna = earth's
>moon).


Outland is really just a remake of High Noon starring Gary Cooper.

I can't remember if the High Noon script is credited, but it should
have been.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Nekromantik
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:27:11 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

Has anyone seen this film by the German director Joerg Buttgereit?

It's quite a show.  Kind of a "Gore as Art" kind of thing.  Very very
offensive and disgusting.

The most annoying thing was that whoever did the subtitles for the American
video had their heads firmly imbedded in their asses.  The titles are very
very small, and it is as if they were strategically placed on the screen
against white scenery in as many places as possible so as to be completely
unreadable.

The best thing is that the dialogue is completely unnecessary, and their is
very little of it.

This is a must see, but not after eating a large meal.

There is a sequel as well that I have not yet seen.


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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: goepping@msi-s20.msi.umn.edu (Jason Goeppinger [Math])
Subject: Re: Fans of really bad movies...
Organization: MSI
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:08:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.195608.13819@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ken@batman.austin.ibm.com writes:

   watch episodes, or rent really cheap, poor films.

   Simply put, I'll watch anything.

   . . . 

   I am curious - how many others will watch just about anything put
   before them? That's doesn't mean it's not O.K. to laugh, or make
   fun of the film, but I will watch just about any grade Z movie
   and *enjoy* it somehow. Do others do this?


It's o.k. ken.  There are others out there  just like you.  You don't have
to feel alone anymore. . .

I myself am a Video junkie.  I love a good bad movie every now and then.  I
love Up All Night and cheezy commercial-ridden 70's flicks metropolitan
independent stations play after the late feature.  I also sometimes enjoy
myself when I go to see a "Box Office Smash" that's terrible--I went to see
Prince of Thieves with my buddie and we laughed (MST3k style) the whole way
thru.  I'm sure I ruined the movie  for the poor folks in front of me, but
somehow I don't feel bad about it.
I'm especially bad because I can't peel  myself away from the television,
but that's not the subject of this newsgroup. . .
--

	Jason Goeppinger
	(goepping@s1.msi.umn.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: gorgeous@momth0.maths.monash.edu.au (Mr CP Dyt)
Subject: Re: Bloodbath At The House Of Death cult status????
Organization: Monash University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:58:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.142857.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au>, c9107143@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE KURGEN HAS FOUND YOU THERE IS NO ESCAPE) writes:
|> What are everyone's thoughts on the movie called
|>   "Bloodbath At The House Of Death" starring Kenny Everrett and Pamela 
|> Stephenson....
|> I think it's great fun...
|> is it deserving of a cult rating do you think???
|> later
|> Kurgen


This movie whilst being moderately funny is most definately worthy of cult status. Why I hear
you all scream? Because its bloody awful  thats why.
See Ya.
Chris
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From: fitz@infonode.ingr.com (Patrick Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: "The Last Days of Man On Earth" (aka) "The Final Programme"
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:07:49 GMT

andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:

>fitz@infonode.ingr.com (Patrick Fitzgerald) writes:
>> Not bad, low budget, pretty faithful to the story.
>Really? (SPOILERS).......

>What about the ending? I tried to find something similar in the book, but  
>it seemed totally different. The movie ends with Cornelius turning into a  
>proto-human, and everybody else in the lab was killed. I didn't quite  
>follow the meaning, so I tried to find a similar scene in the book.  
>Instead, the book has him turning in a god-like hyper-human,

And a hermaphrodite...

>with a bunch  
>of crazed, inspired followers collecting around him, and I think he does  
>away with them somehow...getting real hazy here.

If I remember correctly, he leads them to the ocean, and has them walk
in and drown themselves.  ???

>Anyway, not sure these  
>endings compare, and wonder what that means for the rest of the treatment.  

The movie ends as he is walking out of the lab, so I think it just
ended prematurely (before the crazed masses).  It seemed like the
whole movie had very few extras, so maybe they didn't want to spoil
the mood. ;-)

>I also thought the movie was only OK, but worth seeing since I've heard  
>about it forever.

Actually, I had never heard of it before I stumbled upon it at
Blockbuster.  I was expecting something worse than what I got, so I
was pleased.

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From: Rod_Rombauer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Rod Rombauer)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blues Brothers
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:41:19 GMT
Organization: The Village BBS

'Are you the police?'
'No, maam. we're misicians.'

'What kind of music do you usually have here?'
'Oh, we got both kinds. Country AND Western.'

'We're on a mission from God'
(Of course)

'Rollin' rollin' rollin'... keep them wagons rollin'....'

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: bahn@main.mndly.umn.edu (Christopher Bahn)
Subject: Re: does this qualify as a "cult" movie
Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:08:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.031543.11582@walter.cray.com> matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:

>In article <84109@netnews.upenn.edu> jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.173554.8297@cs.rose-hulman.edu> derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) writes:
>>>"A Boy And His Dog"   Don Johnson, ca 1974    Cult classic?
>>
>>Oh, yeah...a great one too...the only Don Johnson movie I have seen or will EVERsee... :-)
>>
>Coincidentally enough, I just got this out and watched it again last night.
>A fine, dark film. Probably the only Harlan Ellison story that's ever been
>done justice on the screen. The scenes in "New Topeka" were hilarious;
>"The Farm, immediately...And may God have mercy on your souls". Yes, Don
>can act and the actress who played Quilla June was superb as the power-crazed
>tramp cheerleader.

>Two questions come to mind:

>       What else has the director, L.Q. Jones, done since this film?

>       I noticed that the guy who did the voice of Blood also did the
>       music for the film. Anybody know if he's a professional musician
>       available on vinyl? (His name escapes me at the moment)

Jason Robards did the voice of Blood, and he DIDN'T do the music. He's a 
famous actor.

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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Bucket of BLOOD -- video news?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:15:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.104850.4376@verifone.com> ken_p1@verifone.com writes:
>Is BUCKET OF BLOOD available on video?  I believe it was made around 1959 -
>1963, stars Dick Miller, etc.  (about an artist who kills his subjects and then
>sourrounds them with plaster turning them into gruesome scultures)

I've seen "Bucket of Blood" in video stores before, so I'm sure it's
available in the US (presuming there aren't two different films with
this title).

                                         -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: machala@delphi.hc.ti.com (Chuck Machala )
Subject: Re: Blues Brothers
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:29:15 GMT

Rod_Rombauer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Rod Rombauer) writes:

>'Are you the police?'
>'No, maam. we're misicians.'

>'What kind of music do you usually have here?'
>'Oh, we got both kinds. Country AND Western.'

>'We're on a mission from God'
>(Of course)

"It wasn't wasn't my fault!"

--

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin/HGtotheG

Chuck Machala
From: castong@eos.ncsu.edu (CHARLES ARNOLD ST-ONGE)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Is Blues Brothers available on laserdisc?
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: castong@eos.ncsu.edu (CHARLES ARNOLD ST-ONGE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: castong@c00376-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <1992Jul23.150053.3813@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:

|> [Is Blues Brothers available on laserdisc?]
|>...and if so, is a letterboxed version available?
|>
|>Slim chance, I know, but I figure I'd ask...
|>
|>-- 
|>          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
|>

Yup, I have the disc. It's MCA if I remember correctly.
I don't think there is a ltbx version unfortunately.
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