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From: daver@felix.filenet.com (Dave Richards)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Brazil (WS) LD
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:01:33 GMT
Reply-To: daver@fritz.filenet.com (Dave Richards)
Organization: Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Sep1.152630.4803@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>In article <19835@fritz.filenet.com>, daver@felix.filenet.com (Dave Richards) writes:
>> That would be my guess.  The only reason for a "letterboxed" (actually mat-
>> ted) version would be to jump on the letterbox bandwagon.  Unnecessary in my
>> opinion.
>
>Lets hope the jump on the bandwagon-ing continues!  I for one want to see
>it in the proper aspect ratio, be it 1.66:1 or whatever.  I don't think you
>can make any judgements on a films cinematography unless you are seeing it
>with the framing that the director and camera-people were shooting with
>(they try to minimize the impact of going to a different aspect ratio, but
>doing so is still not what they really framed in.)

You missed my point.  All that they have done by matting a properly composed
and protected 1.85 film is to cover up the top and bottom of the picture for
you.  There is no reason that they couldn't simply transfer the entire frame.
Then a user that didn't like letterboxing and didn't care about correct as-
pect ratios could watch it without doing anything, and letterbox-loving,
aspect ratio purists like us could watch THE SAME SOFTWARE by simply covering
up the top and bottom of the frame ourselves, either with black masking, or
with a relatively simple little electronic device.  The benfits would be
only one version, and no waiting for the letterboxed version to be released.

Dave
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: So Long, Columbia House!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:48:19 GMT


In article <BuC34y.I6L@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>
>Which part do you object to: 1) having to pay for a stamp every month, or
>2) being bothered with the chance to purchase LD's every month?

Neither sums up my reasoning entirely.

>If 1), then why don't you call the 800 number instead of mailing the card?

Because I have to actively remember to do that, just like I have to
actively remember to send in the stupid postcard.

>If 2), then what difference does positive/negative response make?
>Just wondering.

Tell me, why do you think Columbia House uses negative response in the
first place? Obviously, they have determined that forcing people to send
in a reply card every month will result in more sales for them. If that
were not true, then they would be like Sight&Sound, who sends me a
catalog in positive response mode.

Clearly, CH makes a great deal of money from people who forget to mail in
their cards, receive the selection of the month, and then decide not to
bother with the hassle of returning it, or perhaps some people keep
their unwanted selections out of guilt ("Gee, I really should have
returned my card on time, but since I didn't I guess I'll have to keep
this disc.") I'm sure CH has some pretty accurate statistics on this
stuff.

As for me, I have enough to think about without having to keep track of
whether or not I sent off a little card by the due date. It's part of an
ongoing campaign to remove small hassles from my life that, while they
are small when considered individually, combine to form a much bigger
hassle. I don't think this is an unreasonable request, especially
considering the fact that they've done it for many other people and are
obviously capable of doing so again.

I'm curious about their sudden hard line. Does "June" really speak for
the company policy? Is she misinformed? Was she simply in a pissy mood,
and decided to take it out on a customer by jerking him around? I'm sure
we've all come across customer service reps who were more like
customer DISservice reps.

In hindsight, I should have hung up, called back, and asked a different
rep to switch me, just to see if she would do it. Ah, well. No big loss!
;-)

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Seeking info on a 10 year old video disk player
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:29:51 GMT

In article <4057@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.031807.27148@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
><In article <4032@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
><>In article <1992Sep8.153900.28030@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
><
><The 'needle' concept in the CED, and JVC's capacitance system VHD
><really took a drumming from the laser crowd.  "Needlevision" was one
><name.

><But actually the concept was good.  And the needle didn't wear
><significantly because it was not used to pickup information the same
><was a phonograph record does.

>As I understand it, if a freeze frame/field was held for a long period of time,
>the disc would wear out at that point on the disc.  Not exactly a good idea
>in my mind.  I remember reading this in the press.

Yes - I could see that happening.    Only in the last models produced
was there a way to freeze the fields.  Actually on the properly
designed disks - it was a freeze frameS - because the disk rotated at
450 rpm max - there were 4 frames per rotation - and properly designed
interactive disks had to be encoded with 4 identical frames.

I don't recall reading anything about this - eg holding a freeze frame
for a long time.    And again what is a long time.   One of the
interactive disks - the same one released on LD with a murder mystery
should have been a trouble maker.  

The VHD should have had no problems as it's disk surface was perfectly
smooth.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: egp41980@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M)
Subject: Cable tv question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:56:17 GMT

We recently got cable tv installed in our apartment and I noticed that some
of the premium channels that we didn't order almost come in; on one there's
pretty much full sound and an image as if we were on the edge of a reception
area, with color and once every 5 or 6 seconds a normal image. I was wondering
if someone could explain to me how this happens-is this signal bleed or some-
thing? If I were to purchase one of those signal boosters at Radio Shack,
would I be able to get a stable picture on these channel? (<- The bottom line)

Thanks for the info.


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From: steed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary Steed)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:18:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: VCR Maintenance Advice Wanted. Head Cleaners Any Good?
Organization: Corporate Computing & Services
Newsgroups: rec.video


First I'd like to say that I agree with most of this discussion.
Especially about not using an un-covered cotton swab on the video
head. It's easy for the cotton fibers to extend into the opening
around the head and get snagged. I haven't broken one yet (knock on
wood) but I hear that they are fragile. 

With that said;

gkwan@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Greg Kwan) writes;

>Finally, do you have a separate rewinder? Rewinding/fast-forwarding 
>takes a lot out of the VCR and should be minimized.
>
>greg

THIS IS NOT A FLAME, Just an inquiry. 

Is this really true?  I've heard this many times but I haven't heard of
a good explanation on why it so bad. In REWIND/FAST-FORWARD  mode the motor 
is running wide open with only the drag from the tape itself for 2 to 3 minutes
vs. PLAY mode where the motor is running with lottsa drag from the capstan 
holding back the take-up reel for up to two hours. In most VCR's that I've
seen there is no contact with the heads during REWIND/FAST-FORWARD, so there's
no head wear. From this it seems that the REWIND/FAST-FORWARD function would
be alot easier on the VCR that PLAYing tapes. This is why I haven't bought
a rewinder. Although one could be handy if you want to start watching the 
next movie without waiting for the other one to rewind. For me I need that 
time to go to the bathroom anyway. ;')



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From: walton@stat.fsu.edu (Bill Walton)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: want info on CHLDC and Image Entertainment
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:37:55 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, Florida State University

I've just started out with LD's and called CH to get a catalog (as
suggested on the net).  When joining CHLDC I would like to get the 
best bang for my buck, what I received was the "red tag" catalog.
Is there a more comprehensive catalog or is this it?

Does anyone have the number for Image Entertainment?

Is there any other advice for someone starting out?

Thanks in advance....Bill

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Bill Walton                                        walton@stat.fsu.edu
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Explain this effect?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:06:10 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <920907093437.1266@tiger.hsc.edu> JOHNN@TIGER.HSC.EDU writes:
<I always thought the visible cutouts on these films were coused by incorrect 
<continuity.  Someone forgot to add a roll of film containing the missing item 
<and the final print shows the matte cutout.  Sloppy matte work and poor 
<oversight by the director.

Afraid not.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Letterbox versus P&S
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:15:20 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Sep9.131843.3787@exu.ericsson.se> ebupaf@ebu.ericsson.se writes:
<After reading this group for some time, I noticed that
<most favor the widescreen or letterbox format, and that
<more and more movies on LD are coming out in this format.
<Maybe I'm alone, but I do not like letterbox. I have
<a 53 inch Sony, and it bothers when watching a strip of
<video in the middle of my screen. I just purchased
<Black Rain, and of my 40 inch vertical screen, there is a
<20 inch strip of picture. Sure, the broad scenes are better,
<but the rest of the movie looks like their heads are sliced off.
<Do all of you really love this effect? I have seen the Black
<Rain P&S, and the feeling of being in the movie is enormously
<improved from letterbox. Isn't this effect more important
<than getting the fringes? As a director, doesn't most of what
<you want the people to see, get put in the middle of the 
<screen? Oh well, just my thoughts....

To answer you last question first...no.  Directors that shoot real widescreen
movies use all of the area.  The Indiana Jones movies are a prime example.
Black Rain is a poor example.  It was shot full frame and played in the
theaters at 1.85:1.  The "letterbox" version is how it was seen in the theaters.

Compare the P&S and letterbox editions of Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom's
opening sequence and you will become a believer.  The rest of the movie is just
like that.  A true widescreen movie is just meant to be seen..COMPLETE.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: d10ckt@ilx129 (Yizraeli Yehuda)
Subject: try of the test
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 09:48:12 GMT
Organization: Intel
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Keywords: try test


Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dyang@mynah.bellcore.com (Danny Yang)
Subject: How many different introductory deals does CHLDC offer?
Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:15:48 GMT

Besides, get 3 discs for just $1 each and buy 2 more in one year,
are there other deals that CHLDC offer?


-- 
Kun-Min Yang
Bellcore, MRE2A260
(908)829-4417
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: So Long, Columbia House!
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:05:23 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <1992Sep12.234922.6912@csus.edu> hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu (Jack &) writes:
>In article <BuC34y.I6L@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A.  
>Martin) writes:
>> 
>> Which part do you object to: 1) having to pay for a stamp every month, or
>> 2) being bothered with the chance to purchase LD's every month?
>
>My postcards come postage paid, so I wonder even at this!

Your monthly postcards from Columbia House Laser Disc Club come RETURN POSTAGE
PAID?

Whose butt did you have to kiss to get that??? ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Two questions - Matrix switcher, Sharp projector
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 22:10:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.150801.3803@spcvxb.spc.edu> killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:
>
>All the high end consumer switchers on the market today have S-video jacks.
>Unless Sony has introduced a new model their high end model (3000) is only 6x6.
>I strongly recommend you take a look at the JVC JX-S900.  (That is coming from
>a known Sony Bigot and someone who does not hold a high opinion of many other
>JVC products.)  The 900 has separate audio and video loops.  It also allows you
>switch in a seperate audio source like a CD player or cassette deck. It is 7x7
>but it really is 7x8 switch there is an "8th" channel for the monitor that can
>switch to any of the 7 incoming paths.  The really neat feature it has is what
>I will call "bus spilt".  You can press a button and your 7x7 switcher becomes
>two independent switchers - one 4x4 and the other 3x3.  There hasn't been a
>case yet where I have said gee I wish I could do "X" and "X" wasn't possible. 

I like the JVC JX-S900 also ... but it is not what I believe is called
a true 7x7 (or 7x8) matrix switcher.  You can only select one source at
a time (or two if in split mode).  And I have had a few times where I
was recording two different sources to two different recorders at the
same time but both sources were together in one of the split sections.
A little rearranging of plugs solved that one :-).  Otherwise it is a
very versatile switcher, very high quality (no deterioration of the image
that I can see), and you can switch everything with the remote!


-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
From: kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kip Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Advent Video Beam 1000A Service Manual?
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:00:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Hi.  I'm looking for the service manual (or any documentation at all, for that
matter) for the Advent Video Beam 1000A front projection television unit.  If
anyone out there has this or knows where to find it your help will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Kip Ingram
kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: TV with scan rate much greater than 15kHz?
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:11:36 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

> andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner) writes:
> I need a TV or a video monitor whose fundamental scan rate is much
> greater than 15kHz

Some hi-end consumer sets (possibly the Sony XBR-Pro) may have non-interlaced
RGB inputs, although you're more likely to need an industrial or
broadcast monitor.   Try the Sony PVM and BVM lines.  The other
alternative is a "data grade" projector.

> nothing to do with picture quality.)  I want a room-sized screen, 25"
> or more, so a VGA adapter won't do it.

VGA is 640x480.  What NTSC signal source do you have that has more content
than 400x482?

> A couple of years ago, somebody tried to make a big splash with "IDTV"
> (not to be confused with HDTV), in which the system would capture and
> display two fields at once.  It painted a double scan rate,
> non-interlaced picture.  Contemporary reviews suggested that the minute
> improvement in picture quality didn't justify the price.  Is any
> manufacturer still making IDTV units?  Or does anybody know of a
> non-15kHz system on the market?

There are a number of "line doublers" on the market (and probably a few
IDTVs left).  The Faroudja LD-100 might be worth a look ($15K).
I'll send along my archival IDTV article.

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From: boylan@sw.stratus.com (Richard Boylan)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.production
Subject: camcorder microphone advice
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:05:02 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I'm looking to upgrade the sound quality I get with my stereo camcorder
(A1 Digital, since you asked).  But while most people are looking for
more directionality, I'm looking for less.  I want to capture the whole
sound environment, ambient noise and all.

In my previous set-up, I used a pair of Teac omnidirectional electret
condensor mikes fastened to the top of the camera.  Great stereo image,
because the mics were almost a foot apart, and nice bass response too.
But they're too big and clunky for the A1.  So I'm shopping.

Who has the JVC GZ-707, the external microphone made for the JVC 707?
How about Canon's own mixing microphone?  How about the microphone
that comes with the Canon L1?  Something from the world of professional
video?

Thanks,

Richard Boylan
Stratus Computer
Marlboro, Mass
boylan@sw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: What PC program To Catalog Videos (Laserdiscs)?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:48:31 GMT


In article <92253.051400CHUNTER@UMAB.BITNET> CHUNTER@UMAB.BITNET writes:
>
>I also collect ST:TNG episodes.  I tape using ED-Beta II on BCT 30M
>cassettes (the equivalent of L-750s for Beta and SuperBeta) yet I get
>4 episodes per cassette, with a minute or two left over.  Blank L-750s
>in my experience always have about 5-6 extra minutes and if you pause
>during commercials there shoudl be enough room for an extra episode
>per cassette.  Of course, if you only tape using teh timer then this is
>all moot.

I usually don't like to squeeze things onto a tape. I always record an
"expendable" program on the very beginning of the tape, since this is
the area that's going to wear out first and whatever is recorded there
will end up with noise and dropouts. I'd rather this area contain a
cartoon or an MTV video than the beginning of a TNG episode. Also, while
MOST tapes might contain the extra minutes you need, I'd hate to miss
the ending of an episode each time I run across a tape which doesn't.

With ED-Beta tapes, which are expensive, I can understand why you'd want
to cram as much onto each one as possible, but tapes for my SuperBeta
deck are cheap enough that I can "afford" to only fit three TNG shows per
tape.

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: damon@osf.org (Damon Poole)
Subject: Re: LD quality disappointing
Reply-To: damon@nomad.osf.org
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:49:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.180633.6543@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep14.132105.3962@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
|> > 
|> > 	My reasons are letterboxing, durability and longer
|> > lifetime, and better audio. I've noticed that, although the front
|> > channels are clear with VHS, the surround channel is fuzzy. Not
|> > so with laserdiscs.
|> > 
|> 
|> I second this opinion -- if you get into laser discs expecting dramatically
|> better picture quality, you will be dissapointed.  However, the other
|> benifits (as listed above and there are others too) definitely make it
|> worth the expense in my opinion.  One point I want to make is that I've
|> yet to see a laser disc that looked worse then VHS, so I think your (that
|> is, Steinar's) particular case (the Freejack disc) is an unusual one.
|> Definitely not typical.
|> 
|> Steve

-- 

Hmm. Just MHO, but I find that there is a dramatic difference between
VHS and Laser Disc on my 20" Mitsubishi. I don't know what the average TV
has for horizontal resolution, but mine advertises 425. Does anybody know
what a 'standard' TV supports? Since broadcast is 330, I imagine that most
TVs are close to that.

In any case, if your TV only supports 330 lines, you will only notice a small
improvement over VHS. If it supports >= 425, you will notice a much bigger
improvement.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Seeking info on a 10 year old video disk player
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:27:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:

> As I understand it, if a freeze frame/field was held for a long period of
> time, the disc would wear out at that point on the disc.  Not exactly a
> good idea in my mind.  I remember reading this in the press.

What wore out was the grove wall at the point where the one-track backpush
occurred.  The lack of grooves on VHD must have been a significant advantage
in this regard.