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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: small block heads
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 10:42:25 GMT

Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971 (bednarek@picard.med.ge.com) wrote:
: Michael A Kreiberg (kreibema@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu) wrote:
: : Hi there,
: : 
: : I'm looking for a pair of small block chevy fuelie heads.
: : Either 1.94x1.5 or 2.02x1.6 the 461 or 462 casting with the 64cc  
: : combustion chambers.
: : 
: : 	Thanks
: Mike I think your really looking for something that today is a
: rarity.  GM did not make loads of these heads and what they did 
: make was quickly scarfed up by the speed enthusiasts like your
: truly in the later 60's and early 70's.
: 
: Dennis

Mike,

Just to make you weep....

I'm a fireman in a small rural Wisconsin town.  We have a '57 Chevy
firetruck, with the fuelie engine, and the heads you want.  The truck
has 12,500 miles on it.  Oil gets changed every few months, or 25 miles,
whichever comes first!

You can't have it though, I asked about that a while ago.  It sure runs
nice, though, and has decent power considering it's hauling a firetruck 
around. 

Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971 (bednarek@picard.med.ge.com) wrote:

: 	A GM man for 27 years nor stuck with a Ford on the
: 	street, but still GM on the track.

Dennis,

HUH?

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From: Frank.Mallory@f417.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Mallory)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: 1969 Ford T-Bird
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:44:36 -0500

 AA> The '64 would be more expensive than the '69, but is hardly a rarity. 
 AA> Check Hemmings or the classifieds in a convenient big-city paper, or 
 AA> maybe
 AA> one of those "Hoss Trader Clyde's" giveaway papers.  In the mid-80s, I 
 AA> had
 AA> to pass up a fairly nice '69 offered to me for less than $1k and have
 AA> kicked myself periodically ever since.  A convertible version of either 
 AA> one
 AA> would be a lot more costly, of course.  

I don't believe there _was_ a convertible version of the '69 T-Bird; only the
Landaus and Hardtops.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 19 Dec 1992 03:53:50 EST
From: Merv <IO10702@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Movie Cars
Distribution: usa
 <1992Dec16.192410.15986@MorningStar.Com> <8958@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>
 <1992Dec18.142336.2925@cbnews.cb.att.com>

Now that this topic is active yet again, being a Moparite, I must
bring up the Steve McQween movie  "Bullit"

I know this always gets run into the ground but the Charger scene
was a travesty of justice.  Even if they didn't really blow up the
car in the climax of the chase, they managed to beat the piss out
of it during the chase.

Just my $0.02 worth.
-Merv
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From: gordon@halcyon.com (Gordon Baldwin)
Subject: Mercedes overheating
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:55:46 GMT

I have a '66 Mercedes 200D that is having some thermal problems and I
wonder if anyone out there can shed some light on the subject. Here is
the senario: The car usually runs at right about 180 deg F and it has
the overheat redline at 250 deg F. When I take off when it is cold the
temp gauge runs up to anywhere from just over 180 to the redline, then
drops down to normal operating temperature. While it is hot is blows
coolant out the overpressre valve. I replaced the thermostat, and it
helped for about a month, but now it is doing it again. It seems to be
better if I make sure to fill the coolant every time before I take off.
I suspect I got a bad thermostat, but at $40 a pop I am a little
reluctant to start swapping thermostats. Once it is up to operating
temperature it seems to be just fine. Is it possible to run this car
without a thermostat? I am tempted to try this to see if it still blows
coolant.

Gordon Baldwin
gordon@halcyon.com
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From: jayj@fc.hp.com (Jay Johannes (Lvld))
Subject: Re: Thelma & Louise
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:07:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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: Dean Schell (dean@MorningStar.Com) wrote:
: : I've always wondered about what they use in a movie when a really nice
: : classic car gets destroyed.  Tom mentions a duplicate - is this a
: : mock-up that just looks like the real thing?  Do they ever really
: : destroy a classic just to make sure that the movie seems authentic?
: 
As a data point, I have a CAV laserdisc copy of American Graffitti.  We
have stepped frame by frame through the scene where the 55 Chevy gets
destroyed. The closeup shots with Harrison Ford show a very nice 55, but
the one which rolls is in black primer and has rust holes in the
fenders. I believe it also had stock steel wheels painted silver.  They
didn't spend a penny more than they had to in order to achieve the
effect. 

Since the final scene in Thelma and Louise was shown in slow motion, I
suspect they needed a better car, but they had no reason to trash the
concours car used for the close ups.  They probably used the same car
for the final scene that they used for the stunts.

  Jay
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From: tom@athena.cs.uga.edu (Tom Root)
Subject: Thelma & Louise
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:26:07 GMT

Article 291 (8 more) in rec.autos.antique:
From: paisley@iastate.edu (Dr. Martin Paisley)
Subject: 1969 Ford T-Bird
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:31:21 GMT

        I am looking for a car to restore, in particular a 1969 Ford
Thunderbird, like the one in Thelma & Louise.  Can anyone give me
an idea of where to start, or perhaps how much I will have to pay
to acquire one of these autos?  I am planning on restoring it myself


thanks!
paisley@iastate.edu
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The T-bird in Thelma & Louise is probably a '66 with a 390, but someone
will correct me if I'm wrong.  A friend with a '65 told me that the
movie car was a '66.   I'll bet it was a duplicate that went over the
cliff... If you watch closely you'll see that the car was disintegrating
as it went through the air.
Tom Root
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From: brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg)
Subject: Re: '73  Austin Marina
Originator: brad@buck
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:34:23 GMT


In article <1gmr1oINNi3k@coral.bucknell.edu>, (Rich Dionne) writes:
|> I know that my austin doesn't qualify as an official antique.  I personally
|> feel its as close as I'll ever get.  I have two questions.  First, does
|> anyone know where in New Hampshire/Massachusetts I can get parts for this
|> beaut?  If I get no response, I have to sell.  If there's anyone
|> interested, post for me, huh?

Try calling Moss Motors at 805-968-1041. They're in California, but
if they can get you parts, you can mail order anything from them.

There is also a guy in Westminster (or Putney), Vermont who runs a shop 
called Sports Car Services (at least I think that's the name). He specializes
in Brtish cars, and he might be able to help you. Call 1-802-555-1212
(informaton) to get the number.

While I'm at it, there is another British car specialist on Cape Cod,
in the town of Brewster. I don't recall the name, but I have their card
somewhere. You might call the Brewster chamber of commerce.

Also, Burnett's Garage in Wenham, Mass. might be a source. They buy and
sell alot of MG's, but they deal in other British cars as well.

And, you could contact Hull Associates in North Attleboro, Mass. They
publish a newspaper called British Marque, and they are in touch with
every British car club, restorer, and parts dealer you could imagine.
If you want to sell a British car, this is a good place to advertise.

I hope this helps.

- BK
From: zalzala@mpd.tandem.com (Linda Zalzala)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: 1969 Ford T-Bird
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:28:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.



By the way, the car in "Thelma and Louise" was a 1966 Thunderbird.  To shop
for any condition Thunderbird or any other model Antique/Classic car,
I would suggest you get a copy of "Hemmings Motor News". It is published 
monthly.  You can find it at most bookstores or libraries.  The issue
I am looking at is 1000 pages of car ads and car event announcements.

You can call Hemmings directly to order a single copy or to get a subscription.
Their phone number is 802-442-3101.  Their mailing address is
      HMN Subscriptions
      P.O. Box 100, Rt.9 W
      Bennington, Vermont 05201

They will send you a copy airmail for about $15-20.

Even if you don't find the exact car you are looking for listed in a particular
month, you will be able to get the names of car dealerships that specialize in
classic cars.  Plus, you'll get an idea of the price range you can expect, even
though Hemmings ads are typically inflated.

Happy car hunting.

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From: dje@mail.bellcore.com (Don Eilenberger)
Subject: Marcos??
Reply-To: dje@mail.bellcore.com (Don Eilenberger)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:56:50 GMT


Dear Netters (and old/vintage/collectable car nuts)..

Does anyone remember the english car the "Marcos" from about
the late '60s, early '70s?

I had a great lust for this car back then, but somehow never
managed to get my act together (still haven't) and chase one
down.

The facts as I remember:

Was a small English car manaufacturer (sorta a garage operation) making
the cars from bits and pieces of other cars. The body was fiberglass
over plywood (later models may have had steel subframes), along the
lines of TVR's.

I know for quite a while, they came with Volvo P1800 running gear
(engine, transmission).. the 1.8L engine with the 4sp/overdrive
tranny. I believe at one point they went to the Volvo 164 driveline..
a 3L in-line pushrod 6, with the same transmission.

I do know the car went.. gross weight was about 1600 pounds, so the
power to weight ratio was excellent.

The appearance of the car was mostly tires.. I think it used 15" rims,
and the tires were 70% of the height of the car (total height was
something like 36").. a Road and Track article on it at the time
was titled "Lock up your daughters.. here comes the Marcos!" and
implied that it was one of the sexiest looking cars around (I agree).

I saw a number in "real life".. one at a used exotic car dealer in 
Philadelphia about 1973, and another at an upholstery shop in
Beverly Hills about 1970.. being reupholstered in zebra skins (yukk!).

Any info anyone has on them would be appreciated.. especially if you
happen to know of any for sale at a reasonable price. I don't think
they'll rate as one of the great collectables.. but it would be fun
to satisfy a youthful lust (isn't this what the group is REALLY about?)!

Don Eilenberger [with an empty space in the garage, and a wallet to
match] {dje@mail.bellcore.com}
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From: ribeiro@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Romeo Ribeiro)
Subject: 265/50 15 tires&rims
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:28:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

	I don't know what YOU consider an antique to be.
	Something that is 100 years old?
	Maybe! Maybe it does not have to be that old.
	These tires came off a 1970 vett.But that's not the point.
	The point is..If this group was to be posted by articles that
	only talk about antiques,a lot of articles would not be here in
	rec.autos.antique.


	P.S. If these tires were "Redlines", I would not put them for sale.



	Romeo.
	ribeiro@hplrbr.hpl.hp.com


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From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Subject: Re: DONT FLAME ME< FUTURE ANTIQUE?
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:17:22 GMT

In article <Bz8EBx.55H@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Real Life?!?! HA!!) writes:
>mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN) writes:
>
>>Also what about the classic chances for the L6 and the 735i?  As you can tell
>
>Not worth the trouble.  Look at the old BMW coupes from the late '60s - early
>'70s (one of which I am a proud owner).  They command a pretty high value (up
>to $30K for a REALLY pristine one) UNLESS it's an automatic.  The L6, if I re-
>member right, was only available as an automatic, which pretty much destroys
>its possible collector status.

Although I can't speak to the future value of this specific car, I do take
exception with the argument here.

Although the standard transmission model may be far less desireable now, the
fact that a straight-drive is escalating nicely is a VERY good sign that the
other model will eventually follow.  It may not ever be THE car to have, but
it could easily go up in value.

In the early 1960s, a Model A Ford sedan was far less sought after than a
rumble-seat coupe or roadster (and it still is), but there are PLENTY of
people kicking themselves in the butt for not picking up that sedan that
they "coulda gotten one for a song back then."  Some sedans have brought pretty
impressive prices over the years and, because so many of them were parted
out to keep coupes and roadsters going, certain sedan models (like the
slant-windshield 1931 fordor) have become hard to come by.

More recently (and more personally) I bought a '55 Porsche 356 Cabriolet
about ten years ago.  It wasn't a Speedster -- the most desireable of the
lot -- and some of the folks told me I'd made a mistake by buying it.  The
last offer that I turned down for it was over 14 times what I paid for it
back then.  Sure, if it had been a Speedster it would probably be worth
30 times what I paid for it, but I couldn't afford a speedster then (and
DAMNED sure can't now!).  I can't afford the Cabriolet now, either, but I
*have* it. :)

Don't judge tomorrow by today . . . judge it by yesterday.

Bill Robie (Historian)


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From: wesf@boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii)
Subject: Re: 265/50 15 tires&rims
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:25:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Romeo Ribeiro (ribeiro@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com) wrote:
: 	I have a set of four tires and rims for sale.
: 	              
: 
: 	Tires: 265/50 15" BFGoodrich T/A radials
: 	Rims:  American Racing (mags) 15x7.75" five bolts GM pattern (white). 
: 
: 	Two of these tires are almost new(less then 500 miles on them),
: 	and the other two are fairly good.
: 	The rims are OK but they need to be painted. 
: 
: 	$350.00 obo
: 	 
: 	email any questions to:
: 	ribeiro@hplrbr.hpl.hp.com
: 	Romeo Ribeiro

Doesn't sound like "antique" material to me, unless they are Goodyear "Redline"
replacements but I don't recall any stock "antique" applications for this size..

Please don't cross-post into this group unless the stuff applies...

Wes Fujii

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From: wesf@boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii)
Subject: Re: Thelma & Louise
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:52:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Dean Schell (dean@MorningStar.Com) wrote:
: I've always wondered about what they use in a movie when a really nice
: classic car gets destroyed.  Tom mentions a duplicate - is this a
: mock-up that just looks like the real thing?  Do they ever really
: destroy a classic just to make sure that the movie seems authentic?

I would think that if it was a "common" car, then it would be cheap
enough that they would toast "one" of the several that they undoubtably
have.  The one that goes over the cliff doesn't have to be great up
close...

For stationary front shots (like the MB 450SL that got "Blown" in 
Used Cars) they can probably get rear-ended cars from accidents if
the movie budget is a small one.

All just speculation, of course...

Wes Fujii
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From: brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks)
Subject: Christmas wish list - the 12 days of Christmas
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:41:22 GMT

As I was listening to the radio this morning, I heard another one of
those takeoffs on "The 12 Days of Christmas". Being in a rather creative
mood this morning (don't ask me how that happened :-)  ) I decided to
adapt these verses to my favorite hobby, and come up with the ultimate
car head's Christmas list. Adapt the car in verse 1 to your personal
favorite, and see how much it sounds like _your_ Christmas list. :-)

On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me - a '57 Chevy
hardtop.

2nd day - 2 chromed bumpers

3rd day - 3 shop manuals ("shop books" fits better in the song)

4th day - 4 shocks and springs

5th day - 5 wide whitewalls (remember to sing this slowly & broadly)

6th day - 6 piece exhaust kit

7th day - 7 piece interior (upholstery kit)

8th day - 8 "AC" spark plugs

9th day - 9 overhaul kits (engine, transmission, rear axle, front axle...)

10th day - 10 tons of tools

11th day - 11 NOS trim parts

12th day - 12 days of painting


Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukka, or Season's Greetings (your choice, 
depending on your religious beliefs) to everyone!
 
Ted Brooks
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From: knightf@infonode.ingr.com (Frank Knight)
Subject: Re: Tepco EV
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:45:15 GMT

In article <97.1461.uupcb@spacebbs.com> howard.smith@spacebbs.com (Howard Smith)  writes:
>Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1992 14:42:02 -0600
>From: Mike Sheumaker <mikes@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
>To: howard.smith@spacebbs.com
>
>
>Can I ask a silly question? Just what in the FUCK does some stupid ass Jap
>electric car story have to do with rec.autos.antique?
>
>That's why the group was created- to not be subjected to this kind of crap.
>
>Have a nice day
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Date: Wed, 9 Dec 92 14:39:44 CST
>From: drogers@spdc.ti.com (Daty Rogers)
>To: howard.smith@spacebbs.com
>Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
>
>KEEP THIS CRAP OUT OF THE ANTIQUE GROUPS S***HEAD!!!!!!
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Well, the posting was a mistake due to the short comings of the way the
>conference is listed on the BBS I use. The listing was "recAutoa". It
>certainly won't happen again.
>
>BTW, the day the last gasoline powered car is melted down will not
>be soon enough. I'm sick and tired of breathing all that crap.
>Please let me know when you have your next show, and I will bring my
>spray cans, five pound mall and a bag of sugar cubes. (g)
>
>Have a pleasant day yourself!
>
>hhs
>---

Check some day how that nice clean electricity is generated and
what happens when the batteries are charged!

Frank
From: dave@coombs.anu.edu.au (David G. White)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Thinking of buying a 1959 Austin Lancer
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:23:16 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

I have the opportunity to buy a 1959 Austin Lancer for $350AUS.  I've driven it
and the only thing I can find wrong with it is that the gear crunch going from
3 -> 2 -> 1 but I'm told that is normal for cars of that vintage.  It'll cost
me another $300AUS to get it registered if nothing is wrong with it.

My question is.. is it worth it?  The man selling it to me said that they only
thing that needs replacing are some sort of rubber seals on the suspension.  Is
this major ?  It's a really cute car but I don't have money to throw around if
youknow what I mean.

Any correspondence welcome.

David.
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From: bcw2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (BRIAN CHESTER WISNESKI)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: looking for an A-Title
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:58:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <724406416.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP>, Frank.Mallory@f417.n109.z1.fidonet.o
rg (Frank Mallory) writes:
>
> BC> My father actually had to get a title for a car that was sitting around
> BC> for a
> BC> long time.  If I remember, you had the car checked to see if was
> BC> stolen.  Well
> BC> you're on the right track.  That was the first step.  The next is to go
> BC> to a JC
> BC> and verify that the car was not stolen.  He should then give you an
> BC> address to
> BC> Harrisburg,(we not longer have it) and they will issue you a new title.
>
>Was the car originally titled in your father's name? It's a lot easier to get a
>duplicate title than to have a car re-titled in a different name.
>
No, the car was not in my fathers name.  We actually bought it in NY, and
brought it back to PA.  As I recall, he did not have any trouble.  If my
information does not work I'll double check with him.
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