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From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: PM & ICON Title manipulation
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:16:05 GMT

<MARK@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> writes:

>I have mulitple versions of IBM"S TN3270.EXE program running concurrently
>which are logged on to several systems with different userid's. I do not
>always use the same userids day in and day out, thus
>I am looking for a way to dynamically change the PM title bar and ICON
>title from a ReXX or C program.

Assuming that from the command line you are doing something like:

[c:\] tn3270 host1

You can write a .CMD file that looks like:

start "TN3270 Logged on host: %1" /win -b -h tn3270.exe

In .CMD files (the OS/2 version of .BAT files), %1 expands to the first arg.,
%2 the second, etc. If you only have one id per host, you could use check
the hostname and also insert the userid automatically.

Take a look at the online command reference for more help.


______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Borland Objectvision for OS/2 - Comments?
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:39:25 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

Having very little understanding of what this package actually does,
I would really like to hear comments from anyone who's familiar with
the package. Thanks.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
---
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Drug Warrior? - 3 centuries.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: skagos@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (panagiotis skagos (187802923))
Subject: PSPM (works for 2.0????)
Reply-To: skagos@hercules.uregina.ca (panagiotis skagos (187802923))
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Distribution: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:18:24 GMT

I remember reading a message that pointed out that there is a version
of PSPM that works under OS/2 2.0.  Could someone please direct me
towards a copy of the program.  I grabbed the one from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu
(hobbes) and it is the old version that causes OS/2 to flip out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

 P. Takis Skagos
 (skagos@hercules.cs.uregina.ca)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: 32bit Shareware backup program.
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 10:08:19 GMT

My desire for a backup utility for OS/2 is primarily motivated by the following
scenario.
I have the problem of transporting my work to and from uni. I have OS/2 
running at both locations, but my programming/working environment are
constantly changing. What I need is a utility which (at the end of the day)
will update a set of disks which I can take home/to uni. Obviously to save
time only those files which have been updated which be backed-up / restored,
but all files should exist in the set in their latest revision.
I think the Shareware idea is good - the author of such a package can
almost certainly count on a contribution from myself.


-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 26 Jul 1992 23:24:24 CDT
From: <U28661@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Describe Demo Margin Woes


Why is it that drastic changes in the upper margin setting (as seen on
the screen) appear only slight when printed?  FYI, my printer is an
Epson LQ-510.

Is this a bug (feature) in Describe, or OS/2?  I also use AmiPro 1.2 in
seamless WIN-OS2, but at least my margins print to whatever setting I
give.

Also, does this problem go away with the full-blown version of Describe?

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Window sizes for Emacs
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:13:28 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <MATTES.92Jul22132958@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> mattes@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Eberhard Mattes) writes:
>Ray Toy writes:
>
>> I'm just wondering how to change the size of the emacs window
>> to something else besides 25 lines.
>
>Use
>
>  mode co80,32
>
>before starting Emacs to get 32 lines, for instance.

Minor correction: leave out the "co".  Just do a "mode 80,32".

In text mode, you can choose from 25, 32, 43, 50, and 60 lines (on a
VGA).  In a window, you can choose any number of lines from (I think)
10 to 102.  If the number of lines is too big for the window size,
scroll bars will appear.

Anyhow, if you shell out of emacs (^Z) and do a "mode" command, and
later "exit" back to emacs, you'll find that emacs adjusts to the new
screen size.

On my ATI VGA-1024 card, I normally run my OS/2 full screen sessions
in 132x44 text mode, and emacs works just fine that way.  I just do a
"mode 132,44" before starting emacs.

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From: keyser@oliver.sun.ac.za (Keyser W MSC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: TeX for OS/2?
Keywords: TeX, OS/2
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:28:50 GMT
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Can anyone tell me if there is a TeX for OS/2 and perhaps where I
can find it?

Thanks in advance.

--
  Wouter

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From: bking@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Barry King)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:45:14 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

> Actually, both used to deelop for OS/2.  Lotus was one of the first
> vendors to release OS/2 apps.  Remember 1-2-3/G?  Well, they now have
> 1-2-3, AmiPro, Freelance Graphics, and cc:Mail for OS/2.  They've been
> available for over a year.  How do I know?  A Lotus rep told me at an
> advertising seminar.
> 
 
Ami Pro is available as an OS/2 app?  That's news to me (good news if 
it's true).  My understanding was that they were still working on it.  
And, Lotus just took over AmiPro within the last year...I question this 
information but will check it out.  123/G, of course, has been around for 
some time and was a good product, IMHO.  Borland really showed their 
colours about OS/2 way back when Paradox 3.5 was released for DOS with no 
plans to bring Paradox OS/2 up to that release level, nor port the 
Paradox engine for retail distribution.
 
If you have concrete evidence of the existence of AmiPro at the retail 
level, please let me know.  In the interim I'll do some checking on my 
own. 

Regards,
 
Barry

Barry King              bking@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta
From: merrill@optima.UUCP (Darren Merrill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: EPM - 2 views of file?
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:36:25 GMT

From article <21JUL199212141207@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, by smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup):
> Is it possible to get two windows of the same file using EPM?.  I want to 
> be able to see column headings even when I'm at the bottom of a long file.  
> EPM won't let me open two windows of the same file.  I know I could make a 

Hmmm... works for me.  Are you possibly hitting 'add' instead of 'open'?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:35:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.204446.26578@njitgw.njit.edu>
 dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>The official word is "fall".  Unofficially, rumors that supposedly
>came from IBM say "september".  I don't believe such rumors (much),
>though.  To me, "fall" means anywhere from September to November.

To some others in North America, "fall" refers to Autumn, that season that 
begins this year on September 22 and goes until Winter begins on December 21.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: ark1@cec2.wustl.edu (Alson Remington Kemp)
Subject: OS/2 2.0 + Vision-X + X00.sys
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:49:58 GMT

	I was hoping some of y'all could give me some advice on
configuring a BBS system to run OS/2 2.0.  The system is a 
486/33 8Meg with a SCSI drive system (500+Meg..).  SVGA, etc.  
	It's running Vision-X and using the Fossil Driver X00.SYS
and XU.EXE for communications.  The problem is, is that the system
is nearly unusable during uploads.  During downloads, it's fine.
It has a 16550 with OS/2's mode BUFFER=ON.  Should IDLESensiticy
be turned down, to reduce key-polling?  Suggestions?  
	Also, what does the DOS setting HW-COM mean?  It doesn't have
a little description.

	Thanx,
	 Al Kemp
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rky57514@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tall Cool One )
Subject: An Intel SnapIn386 and installing OS/2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:01:48 GMT

Hello Again!

	I just got OS/2, and installed it.  Looks good, but it wont boot.  All Isee is a blank screen.  My computer has a SnapIn386, which is a microprocessor 
	upgrade for the IBM PS/2 model 50, turning it into a 386SX-20.  Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!  PLease email me.

Raymond Yeung
Nimbus@uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: ralf@ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ralf Grohmann)
Subject: Re: GNU Make for OS/2?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:22:40 GMT

Where did you get GCC2.1 for OS/2 from? There you will most likely
also find a file called gnumk362.zoo, which contains the gnu-make 
for OS/2.

It's also available at ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (in Germany, directory
pub/os2/os2_2.0/emx) and, of course, at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in /pub/os2/2.0/gnu.

Ralf


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From: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: os/2 2.0 bbs-software
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:14:05 EST
Reply-To: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

07-21-92  04:59 - Jari Niemel wrote to All re: Os/2 2.0 bbs-software ? 

 JNT> Is there (any BBS-software to OS/2 ?
 JNT> I am looking shareware or PD !!!!

Offhand I'd suggest looking at Maximus and Oberon/2.  There is 
rumoured to be a native OS/2 version of PCBoard coming out,
but that'll definitely not be shareware or PD.
 
kenneth.tam@canrem.com

 
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From: ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: OS/2-The User's View
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:17:55 GMT
Organization: The Hacker Conference

I used to have lots of time to play around with my new programs.
When I first got windows i moded that thing until no one, sometimes
not even me, recognized it. But now I actually (gasp) work and don't
have time to spend hours hacking through my programs (I'm too busy
writting new ones). So when I got os/2 I didn't have time to mod,
tweak, change, and kick the tires. I wanted to install it and start
running, but no such luck. The question I have for everyone reading
this post is:How much trouble have you had with os/2? My own
problems including:Having applications sit in my print queue
refusing to print (even though the printer is on and connected
correctly). Having the entire system freeze up (the mouse still
works but after an hour (and repeated ctrl-esc attempts) the system
REFUSES to allow me to do ANYTHING. Lost disk drive, the system, for
some reason, couldn't find my d drive (which is a virtual drive
whose 'E' section is where os/2 boots) and gave me 'this application
is not responding do you wish to kill' I repeatedly said yes with
the pop up disapearing, nothing happening and then it appeared
again. This type of freezing is MUCH rarer than windows, but never
the less I can expect SOME type of problem at least once a day. Am I
alone? I'm trying to determine if I'm doing something wrong or if
others are also experiencing various problems of a similar sort.
		Thank you for your time,
				The Jester
--
 	The Jester-President of the Hacker Conference
"Freedom isn't Free"-The U.S. Army
"Nothing is too wonderful to be true"-Faraday
"If I knew it all, what would I be doing HERE?"-The Jester
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Jul 1992 16:18 EST  

In article <1992Jul25.011538.5133@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes...

>(3)  Wait until September for the Win-OS/2 3.1 update.

Hey Tim - where'd you get the date from?  Is it official?

Jim Dorcey
From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:04:04 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii

Jason O'Rourke writes:

> Where's Borland?  Come on, give them a little time...the reason that Lotus
> and Microsoft have new versions of their software for os/2 is that they have 
> already have PM versions and one of them used to develop os/2.  That gives
> them a hell of a head start on someone like Borland, that waited until real
> sales developed.

Do recall that one of the first PM applications out there was Borland's
Sidekick for PM, which came bundled with OS/2 version 1.1 during it's initial
promotional stage.  Borland is not new to PM programming.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: <None>
From: regy106@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (John, Registry)
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:41:06 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Summary: Title should be: key redefining

Hi,
	I am looking for a key definition program.  I use borland's superkey
on dos but I want one for os2 applications.
Any about?
John
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:23:00 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <14k3p0INNb1i@agate.berkeley.edu> jorourke@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jason O'Rourke) writes:
>Where's Borland?  Come on, give them a little time...the reason that Lotus and
>Microsoft have new versions of their software for os/2 is that they have 
>already have PM versions and one of them used to develop os/2.

Actually, both used to deelop for OS/2.  Lotus was one of the first
vendors to release OS/2 apps.  Remember 1-2-3/G?  Well, they now have
1-2-3, AmiPro, Freelance Graphics, and cc:Mail for OS/2.  They've been
available for over a year.  How do I know?  A Lotus rep told me at an
advertising seminar.

In my opinion, Borland probably stayed out until now, because of
Micosoft's presence in the compiler market.  For a small system, two
compiler vendors is too many.  (IBM's C/2 was really Microsoft C in
another package) Now that MS has removed themselves from the picture,
Borland now can step in with a relative margin of safety.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 03:15:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul22.005601.16136@odin.diku.dk> joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) writes:
>smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup) writes:
>
>>A few months ago, Borland seemed to be promising that they were heavily 
>>committed to supplying applications for OS/2:  The trade rags quoted 
>>Phillipe Khan (sp?) saying how important OS/2 would be, etc.
>
>>TODAY, the picture looks different!  While Lotus and Microsoft advertise
>>OS/2 spreadsheets, Borland is shipping an "upgrade" from Quattro 3.0 to 4.0
>>which is _less_compatible_ with OS/2 than the previous version.  Borland
>>technical support has no solutions, and they won't even refund the
>>"upgrade" price because they "don't support OS/2".  Nothing about upcoming
>>Borland OS/2 releases has been in the rags for weeks. 
>
>If Borland have deserted OS/2 I think I'll say "Bye bye Borland" and sell
>my Borland C++ ...
>
>They cannot be serious about this, can they???
>
>Christian
>-- 
>M. Christian Holmgreen / joker@diku.dk / mochmch@uts.uni-c.dk
>student, University of Copenhagen, Dept. of Computer Science
>"Human errors can only be avoided if one can avoid the use of humans"


Hey folks lets not getover excited. Oh lets dump Borland now. Borland are 
commited to OS/2 the OS/2 version of their C++ compiler ( Beta ) was on public
view at Object World. They have already shipped Object Vision. What the hell
do you want blood. 

As far as I am aware Borland are the only major software developer to ship a 
product that was written with OS/2 2.0 in mind. The rest are still talking
about it.   


Martin Smith
msmith@netcom.com
From: mattes@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Eberhard Mattes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Window sizes for Emacs
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:29:57 GMT
Organization: /azu/mattes/.organization
In-reply-to: toy@soho.crd.ge.com's message of 16 Jul 92 19:51:48 GMT

Ray Toy writes:

> I'm just wondering how to change the size of the emacs window
> to something else besides 25 lines.

Use

  mode co80,32

before starting Emacs to get 32 lines, for instance.

--
    Eberhard Mattes (mattes@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de)
From: rfs0838@summa.tamu.edu (SCHAFFTER, RODNEY FRANK, JR)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:22:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: summa.21JUL199215225595
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <21JUL199215024239@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup) writes...
>TODAY, the picture looks different!  While Lotus and Microsoft advertise
>OS/2 spreadsheets, Borland is shipping an "upgrade" from Quattro 3.0 to 4.0
>which is _less_compatible_ with OS/2 than the previous version.  Borland
>technical support has no solutions, and they won't even refund the
>"upgrade" price because they "don't support OS/2".  

	What specific problems are you having?  We installed Q.P. 4 under 
OS/2 just yesterday, and have had no problems so far(although we haven't 
tried to print anything yet).

Rod Schaffter                                 	
Laboratory for Molecular Structure and Bonding	|Who cares if windows is or 
Texas A&M University Dept. of Chemistry		|isn't an opperating system-
Bitnet:   SCHAFFTER@TAMLMSB			|it barely operates at all!
INTERNET: SCHAFFTER@LMSBVX.TAMU.EDU		|
	"Standard Disclaimer, etc."		|An OOPerating system, maybe?
From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: is there an OS/2 version of QEdit?
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:12:31 GMT
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

ccusekh@prism.gatech.EDU (Kevin Hodge) writes:

> Does anyone know if SemWare has released a version of QEdit for OS/2?
> I searched ftp-os2, but to no avail.  Thanks.
> 
> -- 
Semware always had an OS/2 version of Qedit. I don't know if an upgraded
OS/2 2.0 version is available, but it should be easy enough for you to
find. Call Semware BBS at 404-641-8968, which must be local to you.

GeSS
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs under OS/2 2.0
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:52:16 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <GHENNIGA.92Jul29114627@ampere.ampere> ghenniga@NMSU.Edu writes:
>
>	You can indeed run Emacs in greater than 80x25. Here's how I do it:
>
>	1) I changed the font for all my OS/2 command windows to 10x6, this
>	can be done by choosing "Font Size" from the system menu of any OS/2
>	command Window, i.e., click the button in the top left-hand corner
>	with the left mouse button.

You don't need to change the font size, but if the window gets too
big, you'll get scroll bars.  

>	2) Now from the command line in such a Window type the following:
>
>		MODE CO80 45
>
>	this means 80 columns 45 rows.

Shouldn't that be
                    MODE 80,45
???

>	3) Start up emacs and voila!

Yep.  And if you shell out (CTRL-Z) and change the screen size before
exitting back to emacs, emacs will work with the new screen size.
It'll even use 132-column modes if you're in full-screen mode and have
a video adapter that supports the mode.  I normally use
       MODE 132,44
for my full-screen OS/2 sessions.
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From: mmtl@hobson.cc.flinders.edu.au (T.Lampre)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:29:36 GMT
Organization: Flinders University

In article <bagmsda.msmith@netcom.com> msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.144409.1611@gacvx2.gac.edu> logic@gacvx2.gac.edu writes:
>>> Really in betatest ?! - where did you get this information from ?
>>from a betatester
>>
>>al hart
>
>I was at the Object World conference in S.F. today and the had the C++ Beta
>there for all to see.
>

So what is it like? Does it look stable enough to be available soon to
the rest of us? Or can we expect Godot before then? :-)

Trevor Lampre
MIS Unit
Flinders University of South Australia