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From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sholay was original...not!
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:52:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 Dear Arindam:

  I am only `picking' up the portion(s) of your statement here.

In article <1992Jul30.044538.3150@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes...
>........ (stuff deleted) ....... 
>In spite of being a fanatic art film lover and commercial film hater I must
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ?????????????????????
                         (O.K !!)                     (Why ???)

>say Sholay had a magic of its own. As Satyajit Ray said in "Our films their
>films": I cannot think of making a movie with eight songs .........
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          This is the major reason why Satyajit Ray's films have never produced
          box-office hits. 
>Arindam

 IMHO, your comment on films is really surprising ! Not that I hate art-films.
 But, you are a real sick case. Strangely enough, Seven Samurai, directed by
 Kurosawa, remains one of the masterpieces of film history. If you go thru'
 Pauline Kael's comments in " I lost it in the movies ", you will come across
 the remark that Kurosawa made the movie for commercial success. BTW, arrogance 
 of Ray is admissable, but, not acceptable. 

 In fact, if Ramesh Sippy had not copied Sholay fro Mag. Seven, and R.D.Burman
 had not copied from Zorba the Greek and the fantsatic belly-dancing of Helen -
 that probably descended upon us from our Moslem conquerors :-), then Bombay
 film industry would be begging on the streets of Chowpatty. There has been too
 much copying from Western sources. I am not debating god or bad of it. Just for
 your reminder: Tagore's " Purano sei diner kotha ... " is a DITTO copy from an
 Irish song, and, Yeats helped him with it. This does not undermine Tagore. IMO
 I remain grateful to him for enriching our culture. 

 Moreover, elitist attitudes such as yours, amongst actors have often lead them
 to remain isloated. Robert de Niro - the Goodfellas/ Untouchables etc. guy is a
 superb actor in art films like Brazil. Thus, here (West) an actor is just 
 taught to act in terms of money. He does not necessarily bring his ego into the
 whole matter. A director who makes garbage (full of lies) like " Indiana Jones
 and Temple of Doom ",  may also make very good art films. While I would ban the
 garbage, I would patronize the art films he made.

 FYI, I see both art films and commerical films.

 Your elitist attitude is really unfortunate. 

 - deb chatterjee
(A GOOD SAMARITAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: arao@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: test
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:47:44 GMT

Hi
	I am just testing a new NEWS that has been installed. Sorry.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hitesh@b30.ingr.com (Hitesh Pateo)
Subject: Computer Oriented News of India (Highlights)
Keywords: news,computer,industry
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:54:07 GMT

Computer-Industry News of India
Un-edited from "Computers and Communications" May 1992

1. Technova ties-up with Norwegian firm to market CAD/CAM software.

2. NPC-SPR announce special schema for software industry.

3. NIIT betters previous year's performance by 41%.

4. DEIL's CIM solutions rake in over Rs. 20 crores.

5. TCS bags Rs. 20 crore off-shore software development contract from Sun Life
   Insurance.

6. DOEACC accrediatation for C level course goes to Orissa Computer Application
   Centre.

7. Microcode offers unique correspondence course on computer hardware and
   maintenance.

8. Global Tele-Systems pulls off two major tie-ups for telecom products.

9. NIIT spreads its wings to Thailand.

10. TCS purchases shares in USL.

11. Modi Group ties-up with Australian Company for cellular mobile telephone
    services.

12. Canara Bank orders 20 copies of Turbo Analyst.

13. Total Exports gets into flexible disk manufacturing market with Atlantic
    Magnetics.

14. Datamatics's ISR secures software contract from French bank.

15. Infosys planning to go public.

16. Apple to expand operations with Establishment of research centres.

17. PSI to set up joint venture in US with Bull.

18. U&I software to be ported to Samsung platform.

19. BEL signs MoU with SGS Thomson.

20. DEIL opens India's first 'Metals Expertise Center'.

21. BEL closes its books at Rs. 724 crores.

22. NIC to be VAR for Oracle.

23. Wipro Infotech posts Rs. 190 crores for '91-92.

hitesh@realt.b30.ingr.com
From: shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Degrading social and political life.
Date: 23 Jul 1992 22:57:39 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Austin, CS Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: oporto.cs.utexas.edu
In-reply-to: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca's message of 23 Jul 92 22:30:00 GMT

>>>>> In article <23JUL199217301118@vax2.concordia.ca>, debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
DC> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

DC> In article <1992Jul22.163215.29895@engr.uark.edu>, me@comstore.uark.edu 
DC> (My Account) writes...
>.... (stuff deleted) ....
>Your solution to the problems are so superficial..... (stuff deleted) ....
DC> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
DC> Really !!!! I am amazed to see a Lady Without the Lamp amongst her raped
DC> gender (women) ! I have proposed the solution as DE-STABILIZING the CPI(M)
DC> government RIGHT NOW. I see no other alternative !!!! I feel that Cong(I)
DC> did not rape women on duty (Bantala, May 27 1990) and then burn them to death.
DC> Your vague answer is based on what happened in the past and what are the most
DC> general characteristics of politicians in India. Anybody can parrot out that
DC> from any book. YOU ARE IGNORANT AND NAIVE. Please tell me, why ONLY in West
DC> Bengal the police are allowed to go on strike ???? Why Kalimuddin Shams, a 
DC> Forward Bloc MLA - backed by CPI(M) after masterminding the brutal murder of
DC> Deputy Commissioner Vinod Mehta, was allowed to go scot free ? What action did
DC> CPI(M) take in the name of democracy ????? Idris, the alleged (by CPI(M)) died
DC> in police custody in Lalbazzar !!! How can this happen when CPI(M) has TOTAL
DC> control over the police by methodical infiltratation in its ranks ????????? 
If Aditi is basing her judgment on what happened in the past, aren't you 
too Mr. Chatterjee?  What you are saying about Cong(I) is when they were in
power a long time back.  What guarantee do you have that Cong(I) is not 
going to do the same NOW if they are back in power?  What guarantee do you 
that a Cong(I) activist (well, you can't call them cadres, can you?) 
won't rape my neighbor's sister?  What gurantee do you have that these
hooligans won't change color and work for Cong(I)?  I have seen a million
times party workers changing over to the party rising to power.

Luck!
-Shubu

P.S.: The above is not to suggest that I support any particular political 
      party.



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Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee       University of Texas @ Austin, C.Sc.
Net:shubu@cs.{utexas,wisc}.edu   [W]:(512) 471-9856 [H]:(512) 450-1756
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From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: US National Debt
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:19:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.225454.8254@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@scrapie.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>Like most Indian technology, this one is fairly simple.  It avoids the use of
>complicated probes that are fluorescent or radioactive.  The Eastern blot
>uses a visible-wavelength detector.  Simply observe the sample for the 
>yellow stains on the front of his garment.  That is considered a positive
>result.  The brown stains on the lower rear of the garment are artefacts
>that can be eliminated by high-stringency washes in a denaturing buffer.

This assay seems to offer many attractions. Simple, specific and
frequently cited and used by first world sophisticates. I see some
potential false positives. Barfed up buffalo wings and Budweiser for
example. 

George

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shishir@chpcchpc.org (Shishir Gundavaram)
Subject: Indian Sports Agency?
Keywords: Sports, Track
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:01:02 GMT

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would know how I would be able to get in contact
with someone from the Indian Olympic Committee, or the Indian Head Track and
Field coach?

Thanks,

--Shishir

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bajpai@watson.ibm.com (Dhruv H. Bajpai)
Subject: Software packages:SYSTAT,MINITAB,IDA or LINDO
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:15:41 GMT
Reply-To: bajpai@watson.ibm.com (Dhruv H. Bajpai)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Home for Tired Hackers

Hi, 
I am looking for the following packages Systat, MInitab, IDA or LINDO
they are I believe PC based software packages for statistics. I would 
appreciate if anyone had any info about where I could find them.

Thanks 
Dhruv Bajpai

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chepan@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Parthasarathy Nambi)
Subject: Re: Response to NEWS posting
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:28:48 GMT

 I for one will be very skeptical of anything from UPI.

 I thought UPI was recently purchased by a Saudi coporation. Don't expect
 fair and accurate reporting on any news about India from either AP or
 UPI.  

 Nambi
From: rkrithiv@pima.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Regarding RAW-Mossad Nexus to Fight Terrorism
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:20:32 GMT
Organization: ----------------------------

From: abdutta@icaen.uiowa.edu (Abhijit Dutta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.jewish
>|* RAW-Mossad Nexus Fights Terrorism  
>|*   It is a very heartening news!  Specially, in view of my  
>|*   prediction, in the wake of resumption of diplomatic ties
>|*   between the two countries, about the impending cooperation in
>|*   the domain of counter-terrorism activities.  

>I'd hope that countries like Pakistan and India would settle their
>outstanding disputes in the spirit of friendship and respect for the 
>territorial integrity of each country with the understanding that 
>war and revenge don't pay, it just goes to weaken the economy and 
>progress of the countries and the real victims are the common people 
>and the future generations.
>-jit

  India has acted quite responsibly, and  therefore does not deserve 
  the sermon that "respect territorial integrity ... war and revenge
  does not pay". It is Pakistan and its  army in particular, that is 
  frothing to settle the score of its defeat/surrender of 1971. 

  Perhaps Pakistan can start displaying some goodwill to India by :: 

   1] Dismantling all terrorists training camps within Pakistan. 
   2] Stop arming/recruting Afgan mujahdeen and sending them to Kashmir.
      [* And if it does not do so, India with the help of Mossad 
         should take appropriate action to PURGE those camps *] 

   3] Changing their history text books, that contain miserably contorted 
      facts of the past/Hindus/India. 
      [* Source: India Today *]
   4] Realizing that 1971 episode was NOT something instigated by India, 
      but a result of its(Pak's) own action [Genocide]. 
      [* Unless 3 and 4 are immediately addressed to, Pakistan is going 
         to churn out generations of poisoned citizens *]

   5] Returning to India the occupied portion of Kashmir[POK]. 

  
   Till then there is nothing India needs to do special, to extend a 
   hand  of friendship to Pakistan. It is Pakistan that has to learn 
   to respect India and understand all the economic fundas, that Mr. 
   Dutta has suggested in all good intention. 

Krithi. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thai@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Sankaran Thayumanavan)
Subject: fitness humor
Summary: humor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:50:35 GMT
Keywords: humor

i am just typing this in from the recent C&EN NEWS.

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recent reports on fitness:

News from fitness frnot has been passed on by Jim Mitrano of Cross Lanes
W.Va., and Rosemary Antel of Seattle.

Mitrano supplied an item from VITALITY that had been picked up from MUSCLE &
FITNESS.  To wit: "It's good to sweat when you excercise. It means you're 
burning calories and excreting toxins from the body including cadmium, lead,
zinc, nickel, sodium and sulfuric acid."  Pretty soon, says Mitrano, you won't
be able to excercise without a hazardous-waste permit.

Antel's contribution comes from the ADRENALINE, published by the Seattle  
Atheletic Club.  It says, "for every liter of sweat evaporated on the skin, 
approximately 580kg of heat are given off."  The club is n't air conditioned,
and many leters of sweat are driping from fitness freaks during Antel's recent 
visits.  However, she saw no piles of heat.  With all that mass and nothing
visible, she says, "I think the club must be generating black holes."

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

hope you liked it as i did.

THAI
From: srikanth@brahman.sun (Srikanth Nadhamuni)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RFI: Sending old clothes to India
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:47:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brahman


Greetings,

This is a request for information.

I am part of an organization "Seva USA" based in the SF bay area, 
that does social work projects in India. We are presently planning 
a project that involves shipping of old, usable clothes to various 
parts in India. 

It is rather unfortunate that while we are able to collect large
quantities of usable clothes here in the US, we are not able to 
ship it to India due to the prohibitive cost of shipping.

We need info on the following:  

 1) We were told that there are a couple of organisations in the
    East coast (NJ, Wash DC areas ??) that are already doing this.
    Which are these organizations? what is there modus operandi ?

 2) Do you know of shipping agencies, airlines etc, that would 
    do this for free or at a nominal cost. It would help to have
    names of people, If you have friends, "contacts" that are in 
    this line of work that would help immensely. People in the
    fabric industry should also be able to help.

 3) Any ideas you can come up with to achieve the above are most 
    welcome.


I'm looking forward to your input, thanks in advance,

(For Seva USA)
Srikanth Nadhamuni



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From: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU (C Nagappa - behind the scenes)
Subject: Olympics: India in the eyes of the world
Reply-To: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:33:29 GMT

The Olympics is an opportunity to prove your mettle to the rest of the world.

"What has sports to do with a nation's well being and competitiveness ?", you 
ask. Well consider China (pop. 1.2 billion, per capita GNP $600). China has the
highest medal tally (10, as of this morning) so far in Barcelona. India (pop.
900 million, per capita GNP $400) has yet to capture a single one.

China got the gold in women's diving, while the rest of the world looked in
awe. An elegant, physically fit, graceful young woman took the plunge, causing
a great deal of surprise and envy. No more does one view China as an 
impovrished, under-developed country. 

Now they want to invest in sexy lingerie in China!

"What has this to do with economics ?", you ask. Well, when a foreign company 
wants to invest overseas, it does so for a variety of reasons. Labor cost is 
just one of several factors. More important is a country's infrastructure and
potential for growth. Granted, many foreign companies have recognized India's
potential and are investing millions. However, in areas where India and
China could compete for foreign investment, India is never the first choice.
India gets only a small fraction of the billions of dollars foreign companies
are pouring into Asia.

Sadly, India is still viewed as an impovrished, under-developed country, even
though you and I know that it is really not so - for the most part. The rest of 
the world is not going to view us in a better light unless we make the changes
ourselves. 

The NBC commentator may be wrong in the exact facts, but he is probably 
conveying, correctly, the impression the world has about us. 

Chetan Nagappa

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: exurgo@exu.ericsson.se (Ramesh Gondi)
Subject: Cellular Bidders in India
Reply-To: exurgo@exu.ericsson.se (Ramesh Gondi)
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:01:11 GMT

30  consortia have signed up for the tender for the cellular service in 
the 4 cities - B`bay, Madras, Delhi and Calcutta.

Some of the bidders and their foriegn patners are:


Mekastar and VSNL  with Singapore Telecom

Ashok Leyland with C&W

B.K. Modi Group with Australian Telecom

RPG with Vodaphone

Modi Rubber with NYNEX

Escorts with Hughes

Cromton Greaves with BellSouth

Tatas with Bell Canada

TCIL with Vanguard Cellular

Vikas Hybrid with NTT


The above list is the providers i.e. they will be like the baby bells in US
and the DOT will be more or less like FCC.

The equipment providers include

Ericsson of Sweden,
Alcatel of France,
Motorola and ATT of US,
Nokia of Finland,
Seimens of Germany

The technology chosen was the GSM (The digital Standard of Europe) and
hence TDMA standard.


Happy Reading,


Ramesh Gondi
Ericsson Network Systems
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Subject: Re: Testing how the poster can be untraceable!
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:34:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.001804.14579@menudo.uh.edu> desi@someuniv.edu writes:

> No flames, please. Is it possible now to find the poster?

Yes, you twit. All I have to do is to send the message id (above) to
your system admin at menudo.uh.edu for you to get into some pretty
warm water (not too hot for discomfort, yet - but if you try anything
more nefarious, I wouldn't give two pennies for your chances).

(Arrgh, I think I just gave you enough clues to proceed to step 2 of
the deception. But never mind, you need to be a lot cleverer to mask
yourself. Just ask BIFF@BIFFVM (THE C00L D00D)).

--
Shankar Unni				E-Mail:	shankar@sgi.com
Silicon Graphics Inc.			Phone:	+1-415-390-2072
From: x92nath@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: This is for Upen from Haryana.
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:15:08 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi Upen,
  I am shambhu at western. Please contact me at this number.

616 387 7809
Thanks.
sam.
From: un023335@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR POST DOCS./M.S
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:32:02 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


	Looking for a M.S. or a Ph.D. (Post-Doc) candidate with a 

background in Alcohol Fuels/I.C. Engine Combustion.  Forward your

resumes to Dr. M. Gautam, Dept. of Mechanical and Aerosapce Engg.,

West Virginia University, Morgantown, WV, 26506, ASAP.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: arao@andy.bgsu.edu (avinash rao)
Subject: H-1 at Canada
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:08:16 GMT

Hello everybody,
	I am in need of some info. very urgently. I want to know how the scene
for H-1 at Canada is? If anybody has some info. as to what papers to take,
which city to go, and other useful tips please mail to me immediately
at 'arao@andy.bgsu.edu'.
	This is extremely urgent.
Avinash Rao

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rpendse@velveeta.mfg.hou.compaq.com (Raju Pendse)
Subject: Astro Turf surface and India
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:27:49 GMT

I don't know why everybody is so worked up about Bob Costas' remarks during the
opening ceremonies regarding India not able to afford astro turf surfaces for
hockey. It is tru that India cannot afford to put this surface for regular 
hockey matches. A recent article I read (I don't remember the name of the paper
some UK paper) mentions some statistics. There are about 5-10 astroturf surfacesin Pakistan and about 15-20 in India compared to 300 in a small country like theUK. If practicing on astro turf really makes a big difference to the quality of
ones game then the European countries certainly have a distinct advantage over
the Indian players since just 15-20 surfaces is not going to be enough to lift 
the quality of hockey in India.
As far as Bob Costas' comments go I did not see the opening ceremonies hence cannot comment about the racial or other wise overtones. Judging from comments that other netters have put ascribed to him about third world countries he is full  of hot air, but the comments about astro turf in India certainly is true. By theway an interesting number it costs $700,000 to lay an astro turf according to   the above mentioned article
Raju Pendse 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rot@mickie.id.macsch.com (Rohit Thukral)
Subject: Re: Canada versus U.S.A.
Reply-To: rot@mickie.id.macsch.com
Organization: MSC, Los Angeles
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 16:17:21 GMT

In article <23JUL92.20593290@skyfox.usask.ca>, lakhanpal@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
|> 
|>         I think that the quality of life in Canada is much better than
|> 
|>         in the USA.  Our health care system in Canada is far better
|> 
|>         than the health care system in the USA.  Everyone in Canada is
|> 
|>         almost covered for health care.  But in the USA, there are people
|> 
|>         who are not  covered at all.  If anyone has any comments, that would
|> 
|>         be helpful.
|> 
|>                 Deepak Lakhanpal

I don't understand how this subject belongs in soc.culture.indian
unless you're talking about an Indian immigrant's experience in 
Canada vs the US. If so, be specific. Otherwise, I suggest that you 
subscribe to soc.culture.usa and join the other US bashers.

Rohit Thukral
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