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From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:23:07 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <BSON.92Aug17114146@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, bson@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) writes:
> In article <9208171437.AA03964@is1.vub.ac.be> dglaude@is1.bfu.vub.ac.BE (GLAUDE DAVID) writes:
> 
>  > It was not post to you because the moderator (Chris Spell) made his
>  > work like he must do.
> 
>    This makes me feel warm all over, knowing there is someone kind,
> friendly, and caring enough out there to make sure little nuclear
> families don't accidentally get to see anything naughty. I wish this
> were more true of life in general - the good news is that we have much
> to hope for in the future from our very own government. I just had to
> post this to express how inspirational and stimulating it is to be an
> active participant of The Network; it is such a model society.
> 
> 
> 						-- Jan Brittenson
> 						   bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu
> --
> 						-- Jan Brittenson
> 						   bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu


     Man,i thought i was a cynic!!!







 
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From: mgn00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Matt Noel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:22:05 GMT
Reply-To: mgn00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Matt Noel)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I too noticed this about his editor, QED.  That was his, wasn't it?
Anyway, that thing ate everything on my calulator several times (new
version too) till I learned my lesson and erased it.

I mailed something to him to ask about this, he never responded.

I think it was Lutz who did QED.  If not I have wrongly slandered him.
Oh well.
From: catto@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Erin S Catto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:00:55 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Hey, who cares anymore if their calc bombs?  Just use
the new X-YModem program ( by Westphal & Alou ).
This puppy is fast!!!  It also has automated archiving
of the HOME directory.

Have Fun,

[Zoom]
From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:40:03 GMT
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Message-ID: <2a95215a.1591.19comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

To all (including Erik Naggum):

I sincerely apologize for getting out of hand on this thread...it's been
a bad week.  I won't be around here for a while and wanted to clear this
up on a positive note.

I use QED and to a lesser extent, RF.  While I have experienced som
unusual behavior in QED when I tried it as a lilbrary, both have
performed well and I find them useful.  I would like to hear from you
people who said they had problems.  What was happening or what were you
doing when these problems cropped up son that perhaps I may avoid such
pitfalls?

I posted my problem with QED here a few months ago and Lutz Veiweg
responded.  If you'd like more about my problems with QED, let me know.

"DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY"

Bill Levenson
From: detlef@dmhh.hanse.de (Detlef Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: XLIB headers???
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:02:01 GMT
Organization: Who is Organized ?


Hi all,

I havn't had access to the net the last two weeks, so sorry in the delay
of the followup (especially to Mika :-)

mheiskan@.vipunen.hut.fi writes in article <MHEISKAN.92Aug12010216@vipunen.hut.fi>:
> [...]
> What I can tell is that if:
> id=8	XLIB is a command, ie not usable in algebraics
> 	This id seems to be the only one RPL library produces. (??)
> id=000	XLIB is usable in algebraics, derivation not defined, braces needed
> 	for arguments, no argument count implied.
> 	This is what usrlib seems to give for some programs.
> 	Works on prgs starting with << -> a b c ...>> or with CK<n>&Dispatch
> is=080	Constant (?)   See ABS!!! (Used by derivation????)
> [...]
> Personally, I have usage atleast for the 000 id since I program new algebraic
> functions. Atleast ^ has a program in front of it too, so using pointers
> may not be a restriction either. (Detlef! Time for a new RPL library :)
> 
> --
> --> mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi

In v1.5 of <-LIB->, D->LIB checks any visible command if it's starting with
'\<< \->' or '\->' (user-RPL). If so, the command is preceeded by 000 instead
of 8 in the resulting library.

I'm thinking about a method to give the user greater control over these
attributes, any suggestions are wellcome.

Bye,
	8-Detlef
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
|`What a depressingly stupid machine'|             Detlef Mueller           |
| -- Marvin                          |          detlef@dmhh.hanse.de        |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: fluet@ee.ualberta.ca (Kevin Blaine Fluet)
Subject: HP48 <-- IR --> PC    Help!
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:42:48 GMT

Well, after having a copy of the HP48 I/O Technical Interfacing Guide for
almost a year, I finally got around to trying to build an Infra-Red interface
for my Mac so that I don't have to mess with cables.  Unfortunately, I
can't seem to get the thing to work properly, and I was just wondering if
anyone had successfully used the schematics in the I/O guide for the IR TX/RX
circuits.   

----------------------
Kevin Fluet
fluet@ee.ualberta.ca
----------------------

P.S.:  Before I get a huge pile of mail from people wanting plans:      
       I got the I/O guide from the sysop at the Corvallis Hewlett Packard
       BBS.  If you telnet to hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com and send some nice mail
       to the sysop, he may send them to you as well.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: dglaude@is1.bfu.vub.ac.BE (GLAUDE DAVID)
Subject: unpostable sex48pos
Organization: UNCW news/mail gateway service
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:37:37 GMT

I am happy to tell you that the
     UNPOSTABLE SEX48POS
is now available in hp48/graphics !!!

It was not post to you because the moderator (Chris Spell)
 made his work like he must do.

It is a packtage of 48 sex position in 131*64 form.
Take a look at it if you are intersted in.

----END----OF-----MESSAGE------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth)
Subject: Re: RPLMAN - Mac formatted copy
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:52:19 GMT

In article <2a8d4de6.1579.3comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.spacecadet@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (David Cho) writes:
>I have downloaded the rplman.ps.Z file and have successfully
>uncompressed it.  Unfortunately, I'm having a heckuva time
>trying to open the postscript document.  What programs is
>everyone using to read and print the document?
>Much help is appreciated...

the program I'm using to print it with is the Adobe PostScript interpreter
version 15.x inside of an HP LaserJet III Si (PS option).

Seriously, this is about all you can do: print it. If you don't have ANY
access to a PostScript printer (Ie, you have no friends, noone will accept
your money to print it for you etc) you'll have to get GNU GhostScript
(and all the crud that comes with it) or another PostScript viewer/emulator.

Too bad noone uploaded the original MS word file.
>
>dcho@engin.umich.edu
>


-- 
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                                                      Insert VapourFeature ^^^
From: smithsh@sumax.seattleu.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: External input to HP48 (question)
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:25:25 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA


Has anyone experimented with utilizing the hp48 as a collection instrument
to gather data in the field, store the data to a ram card, and then
download that data to a larger computer. Specifically, an application
where the hp would read data from an external sensor (e.g. thermometer,
light sensor, pressure transducer, etc.) and save the data for later
analysis. If so, any assistance or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Scott H. Smith
smithsh@sumax.seattleu.edu

From: akcs.sfm@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (S.F.Mauser)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:40:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Flight Software from HPCVBBS
Message-ID: <2a8a6a44.1571.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Steve, I've been trying to post the flight software on this BBS, but have
been unsuccessful in attaching files through the Corvallis BBS.  If
interested, please send me a blank floppy and I'll put the new library on
the floppy and mail it to you.  On the condition .... that you post it on
your BBS.  I'll send you HP PC files, as well as the UUENCODED files.

My address is:

Steve Mauser
c/o Vicotoria Designs
377 Nature Trail Lane
Murrysville, PA  USA  15668

Happy Flying, wish I could fly over your beautiful landscape!

Steve Mauser
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: spell@seq.uncwil.edu (Chris Spell)
Subject: Re: RPLMAN - Mac formatted copy
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:33:07 GMT

In <2a8d4de6.1579.3comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.spacecadet@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (David Cho) writes:

>I have downloaded the rplman.ps.Z file and have successfully
>uncompressed it.  Unfortunately, I'm having a heckuva time
>trying to open the postscript document.  What programs is
>everyone using to read and print the document?
>Much help is appreciated...

All I did was to copy rplman.ps directly to a HP IIP with the hp
postscript cartrage installed.  If this printer prints it out, I
would think any postscript printer would print the doc.

The title page has not been uploaded, so it starts with the
table of contents (I think).

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Thanks to All who sent me poly LIB
From: Steve_Grant@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Grant)
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:26:48 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

THANK YOU if you sent me a copy of poly LIB, the response was over whelming, 
I now have 25 odd copys of it!!! Thanks again. BTW does any one have 
the prog for making it play music? Or that circuit program called Csim? 
Oh and the reason I can't get these my self is because I don't have 
ftp access unfortunatly.

Thanks again
Steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:33:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.121407.2793@ryn.mro4.dec.com> ervin@pinbot.enet.dec.com (Joseph James Ervin) writes:
>Lutz has spent a lot of time and has written a lot of code that a lot
>of people appreciate.  Please use a little discretion when commenting
>on the quality of free software.

This isn't a flame or my opinion either way, but I thought I'd mention that 
not all of Lutz's software is free.  I hate to say it, but I had the calc 
blow chunks after using Lutz's editor the first time.  I haven't had time
to learn hp48 assembly so I can't say what caused it, but I know when it
happened.

>>>>Joe

	ian
From: ervin@pinbot.enet.dec.com (Joseph James Ervin)
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Reply-To: ervin@pinbot.enet.dec.com (Joseph James Ervin)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:14:07 GMT


In article <23310C@erik.naggum.no>, enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum) writes:

|>I found this thing extremely offensive, but that has nothing to do with
|>the graphics, which were kind of entertaining.  (Good work to cram so
|>much into so few pixels, Glu.)  It has to do with Lutz Vieweg's lazy
|>programming style, which caused my '48 to lock up when I tried to figure
|>out how this picture compression thing worked, and it deleted the entire
|>"null" directory, with alarms and user key assignments, and made it
|>impossible for me to add new alarms or user key assignments: the '48
|>cleared memory when I tried to re-install user key assignments (STOK).
|>

(...flames deleted )

Erik,

I can understand being frustrated, but rather than flaming the author of
the software, who incidentally provided it free of charge and with no 
warranty, I feel that you should make the deficiencies of the software
known on the net so other people are spared a repeat of your experiences,
and then work with the developer to fix the problem.

Lutz has spent a lot of time and has written a lot of code that a lot
of people appreciate.  Please use a little discretion when commenting
on the quality of free software.

>>>Joe
From: akcs.spacecadet@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (David Cho)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: RPLMAN - Mac formatted copy
Message-ID: <2a8d4de6.1579.3comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

I have downloaded the rplman.ps.Z file and have successfully
uncompressed it.  Unfortunately, I'm having a heckuva time
trying to open the postscript document.  What programs is
everyone using to read and print the document?
Much help is appreciated...

dcho@engin.umich.edu
From: terst1+@pitt.edu (Timothy E. Rapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Midnight Engineering 800 number (was Re: 48 Developer's Story)
Keywords: article, hp 48, adcm-48
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:05:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

To get a subscription of Midnight Engineering, call
800-783-4624 or FAX 714-632-3041.

-just a subscriber...

------------------------
Timothy Rapp
terst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
------------------------
From: akcs.n2kyw@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:40:01 GMT
Subject: Re: how do i open my 48?
Message-ID: <2a8d98a3.1561.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

In response to a request for info on how to open the hp48 up...

Tim -
I have e-mailed some info to you at ten@engr.uark.edu on that subject.  I
would post it here, but I already did that some time ago, and it's pretty
big (couple hundred lines, I think).  Let me know if you have any
questions.

Paul Smith
v055qmd6@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: COHEN@cmu.unige.CH
Subject: Scrn utility :last version
Organization: UNCW news/mail gateway service
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:50:00 GMT

Hello all,
This is just to confirm my last version of
Scrn (Viewer Utility) posted on comp.sources.hp48
This should be the last version since it seems
working properly now.

P.S. I put it in my tool library, so it is
	 safe to use... (What? Who said no?!)
Bye.
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:20:11 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores

In article <199208202355.AA23208@seq.uncwil.edu>
BOBEA@kgnvmz.vnet.ibm.COM (Bob Easton) writes:

   Does anyone know where I can find routines which will handle symbolic
   matrices and subscripted variables?  Are there any on the goodies disks?

Bill Wickes's excellent books "HP 48 Insights" vols. I and II
have some symbolic matrix routines.

A little-known fact is that in algebraics you can subscript
variables with a syntax similar to array access in FORTRAN or
BASIC.  If a variable A contains a vector or list, then 'A(n)'
refers to the nth element of A (1-based, so 'A(1)' is the first
element).  If a variable A contains a matrix, then you can use
'A(i,j)' to access the (i,j) element.

   Another thing, why does my HP48 give 1_1/s for the UBASE of the cube root
   of 1_N?

1_N UBASE -> 1_kg*m/s^2

So that implies that

1_kg*m/s^2 3 XROOT -> 1_kg^(1/3)*m^(1/3)/s^(2/3),

right?

Not quite.  For reasons of efficiency, units can have only
integral powers in the range -128..127.  Therefore the 1/3s are
rounded to 0 and the 2/3 is rounded to 1, giving units of 1_1/s.

HP 48 Insights recommends using UBASE on units before raising
them to fractional powers so that you can see whether fractional
unit powers might result, giving you incorrect units after the
operation.

More interesting unit anomalies:

1_s 128 ^ -> 1_s^128 UBASE -> 1_1/s^128
1_s 256 ^ -> 1_s^256 UBASE -> 1
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:44:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway

Chris Spell <spell@seq.uncwil.edu> writes:
|
|   If everyone doesn't care about things like this, then fine, i'll
|   post anything that comes down the wire.  But you will have to let me
|   know.  Personally his post didn't bother me a bit, but I sent it to
|   one of our readers and that person told me that it was a little
|   offensive to them.  So I decided not to post it.  Be it right or be
|   it wrong.

I found this thing extremely offensive, but that has nothing to do with
the graphics, which were kind of entertaining.  (Good work to cram so
much into so few pixels, Glu.)  It has to do with Lutz Vieweg's lazy
programming style, which caused my '48 to lock up when I tried to figure
out how this picture compression thing worked, and it deleted the entire
"null" directory, with alarms and user key assignments, and made it
impossible for me to add new alarms or user key assignments: the '48
cleared memory when I tried to re-install user key assignments (STOK).

This is the third time I have to restore from backups, all of them after
I've used a program written by Lutz Vieweg, all of which did incredibly
stupid things to completely unrelated parts of the system.  I'm not
happy with this, of course, and I'm not going to use software written by
Lutz Vieweg for the next decade or so, or until somebody can give some
evidence of his improving his programming style to include sanity checks
on arguments and input, so as not to blow up the system on bad input.

If you don't heed this advice, please heed another: always take a full
backup before you download Lutz Vieweg code to your '48.  Think of it as
safe sex.

Best regards,
</Erik>
--
Erik Naggum             |  ISO  8879 SGML     |      +47 295 0313
                        |  ISO 10744 HyTime   |
<erik@naggum.no>        |  ISO 10646 UCS      |      Memento, terrigena.
<enag@ifi.uio.no>       |  ISO  9899 C        |      Memento, vita brevis.
From: stevewi@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:33:25 GMT
Subject: HP 16c card for HP 48sx?
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Does anyone know if there is a ROM card that has HP16c-like functions
on it.  I know I can write programs to do the shifts, rotates and such
but I'm looking for something that has the carry/overflow bit and
1's/2's-complement arithmetic as well.

Pointers appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

===============================================================================
Steve Witten                    stevewi%hpspd@hplabs.hp.com
Network Test Division           ...!hplabs!hpspd!stevewi
Hewlett-Packard Co.             stevewi@hpspd.spd.hp.com
From: Jan_Filter@hh2.maus.de (Jan Filter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: RAMCARDS 128 KB FOR SELL
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:37:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

e>I'm waiting for my HP 128K RAM card to arrive in the mail, and it hasn't
e>cost me much more than you demand, either.

How did you get it that cheap ? Would you tell us the address ?

Besides, I have one of these home-made cards. It was really worth the money
(even if on my card the write-protect is still missing - but I don't really
miss it, used RAM-Areas shouldn't be protected :-)
The card is operating well! I never had any functional problems with it. Sure
it doesn't look really professional but who minds ? I don't take it out of my
calculator every day...

Greetings
Jan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: FTP mail
From: Steve_Grant@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Grant)
Date: 15 Aug 92 11:14:08 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Does anyone know if you can get ftp mil for seq.uncwil.edu from a ftp 
mail site - ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com? If so what are the commands to change 
to seq.uncwil.edu? I got the general commands but it did'nt include 
anything about how to change ftp sites.

Cheers Steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: spell@seq.uncwil.edu (Chris Spell)
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:43:19 GMT

In <BSON.92Aug17114146@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu> bson@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson) writes:

>In article <9208171437.AA03964@is1.vub.ac.be> dglaude@is1.bfu.vub.ac.BE (GLAUDE DAVID) writes:

> > It was not post to you because the moderator (Chris Spell) made his
> > work like he must do.

>   This makes me feel warm all over, knowing there is someone kind,
>friendly, and caring enough out there to make sure little nuclear
>families don't accidentally get to see anything naughty. I wish this
>were more true of life in general - the good news is that we have much
>to hope for in the future from our very own government. I just had to
>post this to express how inspirational and stimulating it is to be an
>active participant of The Network; it is such a model society.


>						-- Jan Brittenson

Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

His posting in the original form would have offended some of the
readers of this group.  I felt that it shouldn't be posted, but
I in no way censored it.  If I was that kind of person I
wouldn't have put it in the archives which everyone who reads
the group can access.

If everyone doesn't care about things like this, then fine, i'll post
anything that comes down the wire.  But you will have to let me know.
Personally his post didn't bother me a bit, but I sent it to one of our
readers and that person told me that it was a little offensive to
them.  So I decided not to post it.  Be it right or be it wrong.

Chris
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 11:01:40 +0200
From: Wolfram_Sauerteig@hippo.fido.de (Wolfram Sauerteig)
Subject: Re: Different displays?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
X-Comment-To: Michael_Hoppe@k2.maus.de (Michael Hoppe)
Organization: SauerSoft 

MH> of
MH> my SX is less than the S's one, i.e, the background is darker (green).  If
MH> they are off the SX's display is significantly darker than the S's one.  Is
MH> this due to the age of my SX, or due to comparing it to an S, or because my
MH> SX
MH> is made at A and the S is made at S?
MH>
The age does something to LCD displays; the effects are not totally researched, 
but one reason is, that the moisture of the liquid (with the Crystals in it) 
vanishes while becoming older.

bye
    Wolfram

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48