From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Kathi, please be careful
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:15:47 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In <1992Apr14.122104.24950@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.020335.28843@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>> In <1992Apr13.201437.2232@cco.caltech.edu> anne@cco.caltech.edu (Anneliese Lilje) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <1992Apr12.203855.28178@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>> >>In <1992Apr12.190500.918@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran) writes:
>> >>>In article <1992Apr12.165452.17782@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>> >>>>In a previous article, gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) says:

>You remember?  Sounds like you were there.
  I guess I have to have been there to be any sort of authority huh?
Hmmm, I guess there are more doubting Thomases in this world than
I would like to acknowledge...

>Now, document this claim of "thousands and thousands."  I know
>of no text that supports such a claim.  Furthermore, you seem,
>from your statements, to be extremely ignorant of the Spanish
>conquest of Native Americans.
   How silly of you. The deaths of the missionaries is well known
and factual. The men that died in the line of religiou sacrificie was
not in the name of plunder but enlightenment...


>Frankly, considering the circumstances of the arival of
^^^^^^^^^^ GOOD CHOICE IN WORDS!!!

>You said in a separate posting, Steve, that you are 19 and
>made some strange boasts about your experience.  You are,
>in fact, very young and very inexperienced.  I base this
   Inexperienced in which ways? I wager that my eyes have seen
more than you are ready to admit. In any case, whether you feel
I am inexperienced or not oh great and wise one, I dont' give a
care. Until I feel I am outclassed by your arguments I wont' really
pay much attention to your little stabs.

>The priests generally behaved as agents of those who would rape
>and destroy the native culture.  They were not, generally, agents
>of the Light of the World, or somesuch.  Really, Steve, the
>horrible levels of corruption, ignorance, hatred, and brutality
>that accompanied the coming of European culture to North
>America seem to have escaped you. 
   I do not agree with you here. the level of corruptibility and plunder
rests in the majority towards the upper hierarchical levels of 
the church. The peons or the missionaries who left their homes to
educate the "blind" were heros in my mind, and nothing less. It's 
cool that you're telling me they died ofr nothing, and almost 
deserved it though...

>Ah, if only Red Cloud were here today.
   Ah, if only Jesus could visit the earth every generation so that
there weren't so many damn disbelievers... (quoted from some sci-fi
but I can't attribute the source...)

steve
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