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From: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: oil change question
Date: 14 Oct 1992 23:54:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer) says:

>@ (Nico Tranquilli) writes:
>>The time between oil changes vary from car to car. 
>>Why some cars need it after 7500 Km, others after 15.000 and so
>>on ? 
>>
>>--nico.
>
>RTFM! All manufacturers require that oil be changed _more_ often than 
>7500 miles _or_ kilometers, probably half of that in severe service. 
>severe service also being defined in your friendly service manual.
>
>-- Dan
>
>Remember: " Buffalo never Oink " Seen on a South Dakota travel brocure.
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>

I have a Nissan Sentra SER and Nissan suggests that the oil be changed
every 7500miles or every 6 months.  I'd like to try out Mobil 1 and is it
therefore safe to assume that my oil changes can now come every 15,000miles
or once a year?
-- 
A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA
Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

"The mind is the forerunner of all states."
From: behera@cse.unl.edu (Siddharth Behera)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Starting Problem in Mercury Lynx  Help
Date: 14 Oct 1992 12:52:54 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu
Summary: Suggestion required for repairing or selling off the car
Keywords: Starter, Flywheel

Hi,

    I am gard. student in University of Nebraska, Lincoln.  I own a 1983
Mercury Lynx wagon and has 90,000 miles.  For about a month or so the car
started giving me starting problems.  Sometimes (about once every 4 times I
start) when I try to start I get a vague sound and it won't start.  I realized
that it was the problem with the starter and hence I move it a little bit and
on cranking it will start.  Yesterday I showed to a mechanic and he said that
the problem is with the flywheel and not with the starter motor.  He will give
me an estimate for it today but he said that it will expensive as whole
transmission etc. has to be taken out.

Hence I am debating whether to spend the money in repairing the car or sell it
and buy another one.  The question is on an average when does Mercury Lynx or
Ford Escots need rebuilding of engine.  My engine is burning small amount of
oil.  Again will it need a clutch repair in near future!!

Other than this the car is great.  The pick up is good and no rusts in the car
and looks good from outside.  The other question I would like to ask is how
much should I expect from this car if I sell it.


Thanks.

-siddharth behera
email: behera@cse.unl.ed
       behera@hoss.unl.edu

--
			Siddharth  Behera
			115, Ferguson Hall
			Dept. of Computer Science
			Lincoln, NE - 68588-0115
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Pontiac Fiero problems?
Keywords: Fiero, problems
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:53:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct8.235330.11522
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <BvtDtB.2Lx@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>In article <1aqs7sINNllp@bigboote.WPI.EDU> damong@hongkong.WPI.EDU (Damon Francis Gentile) writes:
>>---When Bertone made a new proposal for Fiat, they came up with the X1/10.
>>   Fiat sent it to Lancia and they produced it as the MonteCarlo, called
>>   Scorpion here in the US. If you have ever seen a Scoprion (they were
>>   only imported to the US in '76 and '77, and only 177 were imported in
>>   '76.) If you have ever seen a Scorpion/MonteCarlo, you will notice an
>>   incredible coincidence that it looks stunningly similar to the '92
>>   Fiero....
>
>The last year model of the Pontiac Fiero was 1989. 

Actually, the last Fieros were part of the 1988 model year.  I was going to
refute a good deal of what damong@hongkong.wpi.edu wrote, but, from the
tone of his response, I believe he is a pinhead and not worth my time.

-- 
-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry                      | "e-mail is wrecking my life"
esprit@netcom.com                  |              - someone standing in SF
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Subject: Ergonomics (Was: Saab stories ...)
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems	
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:45:27 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-25621]: invader.navo.navy.mil

In article <147520028@hplsla.hp.com>, andyc@hplsla.hp.com (Andy Cassino) writes:
|> scvax@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
|> 
|> > ...I can surely understand the attraction that people
|> > have for these machines.  Find a mid-70's Sabb 99 some time and take a
|> > good look at the ergonomics.  Just wonderful!  High comfortable seats,
|> > a nicely curved dash with large white on black VDO guages, everything
|> > where it should be (OK, so the key is between the seats).
|> 
|> ...right the heck where it's 'spozed to be, by golly!
|> 
|> :-) :-) :-) 

No smilies necessary, IMHO.  The ignition switch between the
seats is a wonderful placement.  Think about it.  This is a
control that you use EVERY TIME you drive the car.  So we
must stop to ask ourselves, "Why the hell do the manufacturers
hide it behind the steering wheel?"

Good ergos IMHO:  Audi VW Saab Late.Model.Fords Alfa BMW Honda

Bad ergos IMHO:   Volvo GM Chrysler 

I'm too poor to know anything about Lexus or Infiniti.  I think
Honda does the best job of lighting guages that I've EVER seen.

Kenneth 
finnegan@navo.navy.mil


"Not everyone in New York would pay to see Andrew Lloyd Webber,
 May his trousers fall down as he bows to the queen and the crown...."

                              Neil & Tim Finn
                              Crowded House
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:45:20 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article <BvrGqF.31s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> (Khan) writes:

>>>On the other hand, there's something to be said for small, light cars in the
>>>snow.  Best 2WD snow car I ever had was a 77 Corolla, when they were still RWD.
>>>It "floated" over the snow,

>That sounds great, as long as you don't want to stop or make any
>direction changes! ;-)


>You seem to be equating "sinking in" with "bad handling in snow." This
>is incorrect. As a general rule of thumb, the more weight you have over
>your drive wheels, the better your traction will be. Compare the
>traction of a semi to that of a Geo Metro. Why do you think people with
>RWD cars put 100 lbs. of kitty litter in their trunks in the winter? So
>they can sink in and get stuck in the snow? ;-)

	Think of a snowmobile scudding quickly over a ten-foot deep snowbank.
	Then think of an M60 tank trying to plow through the same snowbank.
	Extreme examples, same principal, if you catch my drift.

		Dave
From: smorris@sumax.seattleu.edu (Steven A. Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: subtle question on Nissan ALTIMA
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:57:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Addiction Studies Program, Seattle University

Does the new ALTIMA have a small badge on the rear that says STANZA ?
(I thought I saw something that looked like this in a TV ad.)  I know
the Altima is a "new" model and I thought I had heard that it was
officially introduced as the STANZA ALTIMA so that it would have
favorable insurance ratings right from the start (using the STANZA
model experience, rather than having to establish it's own history.)

Still with the identity problem NISSAN has had I was surprised that
they would label the car with the STANZA name.... or did they?
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer)
Subject: Re: Canadian names for U.S. Cars
Reply-To: dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:23:39 GMT

In article <92282.111012WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> Hello,
|> On my last trip to Canada a few months ago, I was amazed to see just how
|> many different names there were for "American" models sold in Canada...
|> [...]

It's not just American cars.  For example, I own a Honda Civic EX-V.
                                                               ^^^^
Try finding one of those in the U.S.  

There are even differences in models with the same names.  For example,
All Civics in the U.S. have air bags due to the government making "passive" 
restraints mandatory.  Of all the Civic models available in Canada
(VX, CX, DX -- Hatchbacks and LX, EX, EX-V -- 4-door sedans and Del Sol)
only the Del Sol and the EX-V have air bags.  

You must also remember that Canada now has adopted the California emissions 
standards, so many cars here have different emissions systems.  We also have
daytime running lights (which many Americans find ridiculous) and all of
our instrumentation must be bilingual (English/French) or pictographs and
must be in metric units.

Those awful mouse-belts have not caught on in Canada, fortunately, except
for the Saturns.  Instead of legislating the car companies to provide
"passive" restraints to protect boneheads who refuse to buckle up, the
American government should get some guts and legislate mandatory seatbelt
use (ohh, but that's an unnecessary restriction of your civil rights).  

|>   Since the U.S. and Canada are so similar (except for French speaking Quebec),
|>   wouldn't it be easier and cheaper in marketing/advertising to use the same
|>   names for similar cars in the U.S. and Canada?

Americans and Canadians (and especially French Canadians) don't always react 
the same way to advertising.  There are enough cultural differences between
the two countries that, for example, a name that works in the U.S. may 
bomb fatally in Canada.

An example is the glossy ad for Saturn cars.  Much of the advertising 
shows pictures of the good ol' boys and girls who designed and built the 
car.  This is supposed to play on my patriotism - to make me feel proud 
that I'm helping these folks out by purchasing a designed and made in 
America product.  Outright patriotism like that does not work in Canada.

-- 
dwjz@bnr.ca  Voice: +1 613 763-8217  Disclaimer: my opinions only
From: stecz@pencom.com (John Steczkowski)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Im going to be sick...
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:20:55 GMT
Reply-To: stecz@pencom.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <DP00RB4w164w@cellar.org> blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
> In (todays) USA today (Oct, 7th) on page 3A, there is a small article, "No 
> Foreign Cars".
> 
> Drivers of foreign-made cars in the Flint. Mich., beware.  Begeining Monday 
> only US made cars will be allowed in the City Hall Basement garage.  Flint 
> Mayor Woodrow Stanley said he issued the order to send a message to buy 
> American.  And he says he might designate other city lots for US only cars.  
> General Motors is the city's largest employer with 50,000 local workers, 
> whose taxes, Satnley says, help pay city workers' salaries.

So you're safe if you drive a Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Mitsubishi Eclipse,  
Toyota Corolla...And a few others I can't remember.  The mayor better not see  
you parked in there with your LTD Crown Vic' (made in Mexico), Chrysler Minivan  
(made in Canada), Jeep Wrangler (made in Canada), Geo Sprint (made in  
Japan)....

--
  John Steczkowski                        stecz@pencom.com
Are you truly willing to take the risk of being severely
or even fatally injured just for the thrill of roadracing?
- As Quoted from New Rider Information Booklet of the CMRA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Why not a Taurus SHO Wagon??
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:12:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.021821.18261@leland.Stanford.EDU> tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
>In article <15010@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
>>In article <22030057@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com>, maurice@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Maurice 
>>Liang) writes:
>>>  I even went as far as investigating buying a SHO engine from a junkyard
>>>   to put in our Sable wagon, but I spoke with the Project Manager on the 
>>>   Taurus @ Ford, and he said it would be major surgery to convert the
>>>   Sable to take the SHO drivetrain.  Apparently, mounting points, radiator
>>>   supports, etc. have to be moved.  
>>Ford produced several Sable SHOs for Bob Bondurant I believe -- must not
>>have been too difficult. :-)
>
>no, not at all.  just slap on some mercury badges instead of ford.
>or did you mean sable SHO wagons?  why would bob bondurant want station
>wagons?
>-teddy

maybe, like me, he _likes_ them....B-)

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: sho limits
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:25:55 GMT

In article <3904@unisql.UUCP>, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
|> In article <3359@isgtec.isgtec.com> karl@isgtec.com <Karl Sewlochan> writes:
|> >I believe that any car will tend to have its rear end break loose
|> >if you brake (lifting off the throttle can be thought of as slight
|> 
|> 	With cars like the SHO or an air-cooled VW the problem is
|> magnified because of the very biased weight distribution.

The problem can also be aggravated by too little weight distribution
with poorly portioned brakes.  The rear lightens up, the wheels can
lock (due to braking, or engine drag on slippery surface).  Then
wham, there goes the tailend.

Mark
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist))
Subject: Re: top ten sellers of '92
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 18:45:20 GMT

In article <1at066INN3tr@gap.caltech.edu> hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) writes:
>1992 auto sales (from LA Times)
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>12.9 million total sales
>
>1) Honda Accord       387,881
>

So, it means Honda sold about 90,000 more Accords in U.S. than last year's 
total auto sales in Japan...

(Last year, about 300,000 cars were sold in Japan.  The majority of cars sold
there were sub 660-cc minitures.  So, you think Japan is a big market, huh?)

-- 
Ken Iisaka               \ NEXT RECITAL  |12:00 pm, Thursday, January 7th, 1993
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From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: So you want to buy a HUMMER?!
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:33:50 GMT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

Well I was watching Arts & Entertainment last night (Oct. 14) and saw two ads 
for the HUMMER!!! They claim they are coming to a dealer near you and you can 
get more information by calling 1-800-REAL-4WD.

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Kenneth K.F. Lui)
Subject: Re: Best type of Oil? (Re: Engine additives)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:46:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.134515.12325@midway.uchicago.edu> epc1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <Bvu4Dw.83v@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sabg2063@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott A. Butzin) writes:
>>Here's some advice for all you people who think you need Slick 50,
>>DuraLube, et al.  Change you oil and filter every 3000 miles, more
>>in the winter if you live in the north, use a quality oil and filter,
>>and forget the $25 can of garbage.
>So what is the best type of oil and filter.  Mobil?

From most of the posts in rec.autos*, the trend suggests that if
oil changes occur around every 3000 miles, it doesn't matter what
kinds of motor oil is used.  Fossil or synthetic will give you
about the same protection because of the frequency of the change.
The key really is oil _and_ filter.


Ken
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: esc@ulysses.att.com (E. Steve Crandall)
Subject: Ford Probe mailing list?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:54:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill

Does a Probe mailing list exist?  If not, is anyone interested?

Steve Crandall
evan.crandall@att.com

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Exotic Cars
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:52:26 GMT

This thread on exotic cars prompted me to do a quick inventory
of the test cars I've had since last May, each of which have
adorned my driveway for at least a week at a time.  Sure keeps
the neighbors guessing :-)

1.  Mazda RX7-R1            2.  Beretta GTZ
3.  Subaru SVX              4.  Subaru Legend wagon
5.  Corrado SLC             6.  Acura NSX
7.  Saab 900T Convertible   8.  Mazda Miata (sunburst yellow)
9.  Miata (black/tan)       10. Mazda MX6 LS
11. Mazda 626               12. Mitsu 3000GT VR4
13. Audi 100CS Quattro      14. Volvo 850GLT
15. Chev Suburban           16. Chev CrewCab
17. Grand Prix SSEi         18. BMW 318i

(there may have also been some others that don't come to
mind right now).

Also driven for shorter periods of time:  Geo Prizm, Nissan 300ZXT,
Porsche 968, another RX7 Touring, Mitsu Eclipse GSX, Cad Allante,
Integra GS-R, Honda Prelude, Bonneville SSE-I, Infiniti J30t, Nissan
240SX, Infiniti G20.  Hopefully sometime soon I'll get my hands on
a 40th anniversay Corvette.

Please don't ask me which one I liked best.  Impossible to answer.
Apples and Oranges.
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ford Probe GT, 240 SX, Acura GS (not R) any recos?
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:25:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848

smn@netcom.com (Subodh Nijsure) writes:
>	Well, I have narrowed down my choices to Ford Probe GT,
>Nissan 240 SX, Acura Intergra GS or Saturn SL2.  Can anyone recommend

I have an 89 Probe with 82K miles on it.  I didn't have to do anything
to it until it hit 70K ... then I had to do brakes and exhaust.  Shortly
afterwards, the AC condensor and drier went (still not replaced, it's
over $600).  Anyway, my point is it went for quite a while trouble-free.

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From: nbucknor@rpwmadhu.gmr.com (Norman Bucknor)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: top ten sellers of '92
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:24:09 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs, Warren, MI

In article <1992Oct13.135547.27054@csi.uottawa.ca> kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist)) writes:
>Note that Honda sold more Accords in U.S. than every automakers in the world
>sold cars in Japan...
>
>I mean, if the American big three managed to have 10% market share in Japan,
						   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that's only 30,000 cars.  They should be worried about selling cars in the
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't know where you get your info but the Japanese market is about half 
the size of the U.S. market (more or less). That's about 6 MILLION cars and
trucks.  Toyota,Nissan, Honda etc., wouldn't have gotten to
where they are today if the Japanese market were as small as you think it is.  

That said, it is true that the domestics' primary focus should be (and is)
the U.S. 

>U.S., the world's largest automobile market by far.
>
>However, fewer and fewer cars are being sold in the rest of the world.  Cars
>don't make sense in many countries.
>-- 
>Ken Iisaka               \ NEXT RECITAL  |12:00 pm, Thursday, January 7th, 1993
>kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca     \ Produced by |National Gallery of Canada, Ottawa
>AI Lab, University of Ottawa \ CBC Stereo|Berg        Sonata, b minor, op. 1
>H: +1 613 237 6642 W: 564 8155 \ 103.3 FM|Mussorgsky  Pictures at an Exhibition

Norman Bucknor
From: humpty@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Daniel Ong)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Corrado SLC or 325is?
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:12:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: uniwa.1bh9saINNkvg
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes:

>In article <12110060@nmitd4.sr.hp.com> jcf@nmitd4.sr.hp.com (Jim Fuller) writes:
>>   Let's see... The VW is faster, handles better, is more distinctive and
>>   costs $10,000 less.  I don't see where there's much of a choice.  Buy
>>   the Corrado.

>Today I saw what I thought was a 4 door maroon colored BMW 325i.  It
>wasn't until I came up close that I realized it was the latest Honda
>Civic.  This is the side view that I'm talking about.  Has this
>happened to anybody else?


>eliot

Hey Elliot,
        wake up and smell the coffee! It occured to me that a 4-dr BMW
looks like a 2-dr BMW, but a civic to a BMW, GET REAL! Not anyone from
Australia or even Germany would beleive you that or is it some eye
problem? ASK FOR A GOOD DOCTOR! YOU NEED A GOOD ONE! 
        In fact I also need a GOOD DOCTOR, I spelt your name wrongly!
Sorry! Eliot!
                                             JASON
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