HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: obscurity and 8-track cartridges...
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:45:50 GMT

In article <1ivm14INN7mp@golem.wcc.govt.nz> meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>re _Pranks - fun to try at home...
>
>NON -
>
>Easy Listening for Iron Youth - this was perfect for the unsuspecting
>bogan flatmate who would leave a mess trailed everywhere, he got yep
>"Cleanliness and Disorder", played to him 10 times a day to get the
>message across.

"As you lie there and listen to the sound of my voice, you will know that I
am your friend..." I love it! _That_ track alone (a collaboration w/ Daniel
Miller, btw; I have the original release of it on the "Darker Scratcher"
LAFMS comp LP) is well-worth the price of admission on that CD. I think that
on a recent show on WEFT here in Shampoo-Banana that Ben Cox and I sub-DJed
on, we played that puppy and followed it up with The Boredoms "Okinawa in
Hawaii on Saturn"...sort of an example in what happens when one doesn't
"pick up after yourself, and always keep yourself clean...". :)

Of course, also on the same insane show, we kept playing Coil's _several_
versions of the University of Illinois Alma Mater, as well as the National
Anthem of Furrymuck (Velvet Underground's "Venus in Furs"). Maybe Ben and I
should not do radio shows together. Maybe Ben and I should not even be 
allowed around radios, too...:)

There's probably a playlist of that nightmare at the WEFT studios, but I think
the repeated listings of the Muzak record we kept doing our backannouncing
over would scare readers of the newsgroup too badly. :)

D.A.C. Crowell/IvoAttauzh@Furrymuck, et al.
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)
From: lupo@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Lutz Bauer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Review: K.Bartos New Project - Electric Music
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:47:19 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de



	Electric Music	- Crosstalk (CD)


	Crosstalk		3:33
	Intercomix		4:08
	Baby come back		4:14


  O.K. this one is not quite a Record you can
  call industrial style.
  But I think there are many people reading this newsgroup
  who like Kraftwerk.
  As the most of you might know: Kraftwerk is now
  only Florian Schneider and Ralf Huetter.
  Karl Bartos and Wolfgang Fluer left the Group some
  time ago.
  This Record was produced & written by Karl Bartos
  doing his new Project called "Electric Music".

  Now to the record itself:
  It is very short - so it's cheap also.
  The first time of listening I was puzzeled because
  the sound is so different to what I expected.
  There are MANY old Kraftwerk instruments/samples
  in it. Voice is almost Computer-Voice only
  (Like the one you know from Kraftwerk "The Mix").
  I wonder if Bartos has all the Copyright for all
  that Kraftwerk stuff.
  The style is quite a mixture of "Electric Cafe",
  "Radio Activity" and a pretty big amount of own style.
  It has a quite good Rythm but different to "The Mix" -
  and you can't dance to it too.
  "Baby come back" is the "Reggae" song by E.Grant.
  This one is a parody - with computer voice but fun
  to listen to.

  I can really tell that I had to grow on the record.
  I listened to it ~12 times and start to like it.
  I like the 3 tracks because its an alternative way
  to develope the Kraftwerk idea of music (I personally
  don't like "The Mix" too much - though I did like the
  concert).

  Conclusion: I don't know how to rate this one.
  All I can say: It's surely not a must have.
  I'd rather suggest purchase if you are a collector
  or Kraftwerk-maniac.
  But you should watch out for Electric Music in the
  future.

  Some facts:
  Track 1 & 2 written by "Bartos/Bartos - Manteuffel
  - Schult"
  Produced by Karl Bartos.
  Cover Art: Emil Schult. (The cover quite remembers
  me of "Autobahn" )
  The CD is LIMITED !! (Mine is 5000/3914)
  So it might be hard to get it outside of Germania.
  The Label is SPV. Number is SPV 056-110363.
  Have fun.



  Lutz Bauer, lupo@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
Subject: Al Jourgensen
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:56:36 MET

Hi,

I wonder what projects exept Ministry and Revolting Cocks that
Al Jourgenson is involved in and if there is anything worth listening
too.

And is there any plans for Ministry to come to Sweden in a near future?
If there is.. I guess I will have to go :-)
I also heard a cover of Skinny Puppys Assimilate when I was at at a concert
with Pouppe Fabrikk, Cat Rapes Dog, PAGE and some others.. I recomend all of
them.. PAGE sings in Swedish, so it might be alittle hard for people outside
Sweden to understand. Anyway.. on what CD with Ministry does Assmilate appear
on?


-- 
Christer H. Jansson, Solace, Hogskolan Sundsvall/Harnosand, Sweden
E-mail: svarten@solace.hsh.se, lysator.liu.se or abacus.hgs.se
"Elks are the most beautiful animals on this earth"
From: xorcist@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: My Trent, you look so, umm....
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 19:25:08 PST
Reply-To: xorcist@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

"Ken Rawlings" <krawling@mango.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

>    Okay, I finally get to see the video for "Wish" and what I get
> is basically a cheaper version of the "Head like a Hole" vid. Cool, I
> can cope.
>
>    But will someone clue me into why excatly Trent is doing the
> cross dressing thing? I mean, ok, wear the long black gloves, but
> aren't fishnet stockings a bit much?

Actually, I thought the video was pretty cool... and the song is great.
(This is a milestone for me as I hated PHM and most his other stuff), but
it's not as much as the cross-dressing, I don't think fishnets are cross
dressings as much, but the thing that got me was that there were a few
people that really looked like they were trying to look ruff and tuff and
ended up looking like pretty boys lost and really trying hard to act...
seemed more like they were sitting on an ice cube... unfortunately, Trent
looked like one of those people...

But the song is fucking great... I'll play it.

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ xorcist@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ashall@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew S Hall)
Subject: Ministry Question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:10:04 GMT

My apologies if this was answered long ago, but a question
is really bugging me.

How is the Ministry album entitle Psalm 69? I just bought it
(finally) and it has a Greek characters for a title. They roughly
translate as "head" + two nonsense characters. I may be missing
some element of Greek idiom, but no Greek word for chapter, psalm, etc
comes close to the title.

If this has been answered before, a simple E-mail with the
explanation is fine.


Thanks, Andrew Hall
From: st1qb@Jane.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: NEW Revolting Cocks?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 20:07:05 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: st1qb@Jane.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

When in the HELL is a new RevCo album being released?  I remeber reading
an article about 6 months ago on Ministry and the new ablum soon to be
released and Al said something about a new RevCo shortly after the
release of the new Ministry.  He also said something to the extend
that they had new material it just wasnt quite finished.  Anyway if
anyone has any info I would like to know!

Thanks....

David
st1qb@jetson.uh.edu
From: midnite@milton.u.washington.edu (Midnite Wombat)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Pigface
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:38:46 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan4.181751.19492@usl.edu> jkd2886@usl.edu (Davis Jason K) writes:
>	One good thing about Fook though, there is absolutely NO MENTION of
>Trent Reznor ANYWHERE in the list of artists on the album!!  Thank you Pigface!
>I'm sorry, Trent just seemed to really lessen the music.  His version of Suck
>on both the live Pigface version (the other live version, with Ogre I think is
>SO SO SO SO SO much more intense!) and on the NIN album are really weak!    
>He just seems to have the same singing pattern and whimpy voice in everything.
>Like he's trying to be seductive.  Cosey Fanny Tutti...now THAT's seductive!
>
>
>						Isenguard
>

I dunno, I like the live Pigface version of Suck with Trent better than any
other. Ogre does an OK job, but Trent's is just so much more emotional. He
does sorta whine, but that's just Trent. One thing that sorta pisses me off
is that I've seen Pigface 3 times, yet not once has Trent bothered showing
up. I dunno if TVT won't let him, or if it's just some big ego thing.

I have to agree that the 'Broken' version of Suck is kinda cheesy..

-Midnite
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: My Trent, you look so, umm....
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 09:58:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.002159.20053@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Ken Rawlings" <krawling@mango.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>	But will someone clue me into why excatly Trent is doing the
>cross dressing thing? I mean, ok, wear the long black gloves, but
>aren't fishnet stockings a bit much?
                          ^^^^^^^^^^    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>:  Ken Rawlings                     |  Everything in excess,                  :
>:  CompSci / Indiana University     |  Moderation is for monks...             :
>:  krawling@silver.ucs.indiana.edu  |                             - L. Long   :


Seems that your own .sig file answers your question.

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
 ...More than just ashes                                 Jim Petersen
When your dreams come true               petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Just One Fix
Keywords: any tapes
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:18:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University

Is a boot available of the recent Ministry tour?
I'd appreciate any info...

====================================================================
Vijay Pai        | "Whether you be glad sad or bad ...
Rice University  |    you've gotta know that there's fun to be had"
Houston, TX      | 		-- Nitzer Ebb, "Fun To Be Had"
From: jaw@pyramid.unr.edu (James A Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Date: 10 Jan 93 07:30:33 GMT
Reply-To: jaw@pyramid.unr.edu (James A Wilson)
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

In article <1993Jan10.011932.22392@leland.Stanford.EDU> blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden) writes:
>In article <51a3wB3w165w@sizone.UUCP> sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra) writes:
>>Re:  Can life get any worse than having to sit through Hank Williams Sr. 
>>at a Ministry concert.
>>
>>Not really. The same thing happened here.  I, too, was overcome with that 
>>introspective 'get-me-back-in-the-womb' feeling.  I asked a friend why 
>>this sort of thing is done.  He didn't know, but I've assumed it's either 
>>to 1) Ca everyone down a bit, or 2) make the next band sound _that_ much 
>>better.  And when you have a band like Sepeltura playing, you'll want as 
>>much assistance as possible.  Holy.  

>But it is true that most bands play real cheesy music between sets.  Probably
>because of reason (2) above.  It's just filler music, remember...

  I saw the Ministry/Hel/Sep show up in Seattle a few weeks back and they
played the same crap.  While it was on a security guard approached my
companions and myself and asked if we liked the country music that was on.
After receiving various snotty responses, he said he talked to some of the
band during the sound-check and they said they played it to get the crowd
pissed off.
  Take it for what it's worth.  I couldn't help but think of the Chris
Farley security guard character from Wayne's World after the guy left.  He
seemed a little too informed.

  Later,

  Jimbo 

I was trying to get somewhere but now I'm following
The traces of your fingernails that run along the windshield
On the boat of car.
						 < jaw@pyramid.cs.unr.edu >
From: usul@mcl.ucsb.edu (Matt Staroscik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: front-line-assembly vid
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:20:19 GMT

In <1993Jan4.122642.2732@fuug.fi> an3682@anon.penet.fi (jak) writes:

>i recently saw a front-line-assembly video on the box,
>a really amazing production, like mega-bucks spent.  So 
>i guess it's from an upcoming sci-fi/cyber/tekno type movie,
>but i've heard nothing about it.  Does anyone out there know
>anything about it?? it looks pretty damn incredible ........
>   

>jak

I've not seen this FLA vid, but if it's the same one I've heard about it's got
footage from the japanese film "Gunhead" in it. I've seen the movie, and there are good parts, but it's pretty lame overall.
(Tho the Gunhead manga is pretty decent.)
From: dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: front-line-assembly vid
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:54:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari) says:

>> That sounds to me like the "Mindphaser" video. I saw it and it looked
>> pretty amazing to me. Except for the title of the song and the album
>> (Tactical Neural Implant), I don't know much more than you do about it.
>> I didn't get the impression it was from any upcoming movie, however; it
>> just looks to me like they had a lot of money and free time and nothing
>> better to do.
>> 
>                Yeah, I saw that one too, and as you guys have said, I 
>too thought that the clips used were for some massive sci-fi movie.  I 
>mean it's compairable to T2 almost.
>        For a Vancouver group.... all the power to 'em... (& $$$, I 
>guess).
> 
     In case no one has said this yet, the clips in Mindphaser (I believe
that footage was used in other FLA TacNeuImp vids as well) are from one of
those super-duper "Anime!" (Japanese animation) films.  FLA apparently
bought the rights to use the clips from the filmmakers or whomever.  I
don't know the title of the film, does anyone else?  Anybody have more
details?

...Babbitt
-- 
David Caldwell (Babbitt on IRC)  E-mail:  CALDWELL@CWBIO.BIOC.CWRU.EDU)
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 16:24:09 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: front-line-assembly vid
 <1993Jan6.053350.12633@athena.mit.edu> <1ii1q1INN4vs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
 <1993Jan8.061214.26840@ennews.eas.asu.edu>

I haven't checked a recent FAQ, but this sure should be on there.

The clips in "Mindphaser" are from the Japanese live-action movie GUNHED.
The movie is based on a manga called, remarkably, GUNHED.  I know the
HED stands for "Heavy Elimination Device", and GUN may stand for something
else but probably just stands for GUN.  The movie is not available
(officially) in the United States, but I could run down to my local
laserdisc store and order the disc tonight (actually they have one copy
sitting on the shelf).  I have seen the movie, it's a little confusing,
but half of it is in English, which helps. It's very impressive visually,
and although I was disappointed by it, it seems to haunt me in some way
(much like when I saw Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, disliked it, yet
kept remembering things from it for weeks after).  From the discussions
I've seen here, the FLA boys bought the North American rights to the
movie for an outrageously low sum of money, then re-edited select
footage, inserting shots of themselves, to complete the video.
Now, that's all I know. If any of this information is inaccurate, please
correct me.

Steve Hill                                       SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET
Data Communications Technician           William Rainey Harper College
Information Systems department         1200 W Algonquin Rd Palatine IL
-------"No one in power taking blame."-----Skinny Puppy---------------
"You asked for nothing. That's what I gave you."---Legendary Pink Dots
From: h9s@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: KMFDM Sucks
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:39:50 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

	I just saw the new KMFDM single -Sucks- in the record store a week or
so ago.  I would like to here some comments before I rush out to get this thing
since $10 is a little steep for one song even if it's redone 5 or 6 times.

		Jeff Ng.
		jn14@cornell.edu
From: sunshine@cco.caltech.edu (Tom Renner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: CDs for sale
Date: 9 Jan 1993 07:08:20 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I have the following CDs for sale:

Negativland - Escape From Noise	 	$7.00
Coil - Scatology 			$10.00
Coil - Horse Rotorvator 		$12.00 ($17 new at Virgin Records)
Complex - This is Alien 		$4.00
nitzer ebb - warsaw ghetto/		$5.00
	     so bright so strong
	     (remixes)


Or all five for $30.00

Buyer pays shipping.  Or make an offer.  Both of the Coil CDs are new, played
once.

Tom
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From: jkd2886@usl.edu (Davis Jason K)
Subject: Re: Pigface
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:12:48 GMT

	Has anyone else gotten the new (or newest) Pigface, "Fook"?
I bought it a couple of weeks ago, and have come to the conclusion that they
are better live.  I didn't get a chance to see them live (DAMMIT, everyone was
rattling on about Ministry, and Pigface was playing an hour away the next day
for less than HALF the price!!!).  From what I've heard off of "Welcome to
Mexico..." they are incredible live.  I'm not incredibly impressed with 
Fook, though.  Almost seems as if the recording quality didn't cut it.
Anyone else have any comments?

							Isenguard
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thf@sizone.uucp (Jason Kalra)
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-966-9906
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:40:04 GMT

To: thf
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
From: thf@sizone.UUCP (Jason Kalra)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:48:39 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-966-9906
From: sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:31:51 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-966-9906

> Not just in the suburbs either. Check out some urban art students...
> 
> I was recently at a gathering where I was met with an icy stare
> when I mentioned  Soundgarden's (excellent) album; a short while
> later the same people were raving about an Indie (underproduced)
> Mudhoney album with terrible sound quality. Seems to me if they
> really liked the *music* on that album, and not the just the
> *concept* of Mudhoney (the 'hip' Seattle band to be into, don't
> you know...), then they ought to REALLY dig Badmotorfinger. But
> they're not going to put a hit album into their collection....
> 

.. Yes, the urban art students.  The unconforming conformists, with 
beret's, and Camus Fan Club cards flailing about, drudging on with 
pcho-babble about how things make them 'feeeeeeeeeeeeel'.  

  Interesting that you mentioned Soundgarden.  I was talking to a few 
friends about generally redundant things (It's wonderfully mind-numbing), 
and Nirvana came up (don't ask me how).  I remember one fellow saying 
that Nirvana had become too popular, and thus adding a 'This should make 
you not want to buy it' overtone to it.  Now, although Nirvana did a 
horrible hack job of Sideways with SLTS, the album isn't bad at all.  It 
might be suspect, but hey.. look at Broken (Next to Broken, a Mr. 
Rogers/Raffi compilation would be more appealing to me)... Oh well.  I 
suppose it's all a matter of perspective, really.

(Now who's less Alternative!)
> Or am I being 'more un-alternative than thou' now... ;-)

Jason Kalra - Sonic Interzone BBS, Toronto
Inet: thf%sizone@ee.ryerson.ca
From: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: KMFDM Sucks
Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:08:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, h9s@vax5.cit.cornell.edu () says:

>	I just saw the new KMFDM single -Sucks- in the record store a week or
>so ago.  I would like to here some comments before I rush out to get this thing
>since $10 is a little steep for one song even if it's redone 5 or 6 times.

What the hell kinda record store you in?

--
From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: front-line-assembly vid
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 11:48:47 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

> 
> They got the footage from a Japanese Live action movie called GUNHED. 
> Apparenlt, the producers of the Mindphazer video made a deal with the 
> producers GUNHED to use some of their footage...
> 
           Would you know if the flick is in town somewhere... looks like 
it would be good, no?
 
> msimla@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Michael Simla)
> The Draco Unix System [BBS]
 
        As for Draco.... is it up now??? Ph# ???
 
                        Thanks.
        >>Baden<<                       (remember me, (I think?))
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thf@sizone.uucp (Jason Kalra)
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:01:43 GMT

To: thf
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
From: thf@sizone.UUCP (Jason Kalra)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 09:23:08 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
From: sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 09:11:23 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

> 
> Well, I'll try Skinny Puppy but as far as Ministry goes, I would consider it 
> more heavy metal then anything.  But thats my opinion... Does SKinny Puppy 
> sound like Ministry??  
> 
> 

.. Well, I couldn't exactly tell you what the general classification for 
Ministry is, right now.  Ever since the release of Psalm 69, there have 
been varying terms for them... I've heard heavy metal, death metal, and 
by far the most hilarious one, Country and Western hick, which seems to 
fit just about as well as anything would.  Still, I tend to use 
classifications such as Indusrial/Metal as a means of conveinence only, 
so you're most likely find Ministry in the Industrial section of your 
favourite music store (wether or not they really are Industrial).

.. As for Skinny Puppy.. well, no, they don't sound a hell of a lot like 
Ministry.  A fun stereotype that I see fly around every so often goes 
something like "Oh, it's the type of crowd that listens to Ministry,  
Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, wear black, and headbang a lot".  So, 
there's either some corrolation that I'm unaware of, or Ministry and 
Puppy are enough to make enough people feel Alternative.  I only started 
listening to them about a year ago, and thus joined all my fellow 
suburban wannabe punks who wanted to get high atop the 'I'm more obscure 
than you" Alternative Attitude Ladder, and thus impress the plebeian 
masses who think that Michael Bolton and Mariah Carey have revolutionized 
the way music 'should' be.
Good luck.

Jason Kalra - Sonic Interzone BBS, Toronto
Inet: thf%sizone@ee.ryerson.ca

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