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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:33:49 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      re: sins and sinners
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The reason I made the comment in the first place was that some singers like
Hank Williams Jr. are being treated like groups like Guns n' Roses.  Like the
song "All my rowdy friends have settled down" saids some of the Country Music
Groups of the 70's used to get drunk and get wild but now have settled down.
I remember once in Roanoke during a Hank Williams Jr. concert there were
riots at the concert that they had to get the police over to break it up.

So the meaning is in every bushel of apples; there is always one that is
rotton.
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From:         "In a world gone crazy...." <QUINTAINE@TKM.BRANDONU.CA>
Subject:      Re: Country music issue is not resolved!
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 > Billy Rae Cyrus;like I stated in an earlier message; is likely to become the
 > next Elvis and have a dance that will be more famous than Chubby Checker's
 > Twist. In other words;Achy Breaky will be the #1 dance craze in America's
 > dance halls.

The Lambada, Vogueing, and countless other dances were also supposed to
be the #1 dance craze in America, and last "forever."  Where are they now?
As for the Lambada, it's mostly practiced horizontally in private bedrooms
across the country.  Vogueing, although still done, is rarely seen done
in mass numbers.  I think the only "lasting" dance craze is the
"I'm too shy to do anything wild, so I'll just shift back & forth from
one foot to the other" dance.

 > So to keep with the times; learn the Achy Breaky and get down and dance.

It is mandatory for people who enjoy, say, country music, to learn how to
headbang if they hear a heavy metal song?

Corey
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From:         alva moore stevenson <ECZ5AMS@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "David M. Geoghegan" Reggae

Hi Dave, you're absolutely right that one of the antecedents of US rap is
Jamaican dancehall.  You'll also be interested to know that two US rap
artists (Heavy D and Chubb Rock) are originally from Jamaica.  Heavy D, in
particular, has incorporated reggae into some of his music and recently did
a cover of Third World's "Now That We've Found Love."  I like the energy
of the Jamaican dancehall style as much as I like more traditional reggae
such as Tosh and Marley.   Do you also listen to some of the veterans such
as the Mighty Diamonds?  I know you'll enjoy the Sunsplash.  I'll be
interested to hear all about it upon your return.

What reggae radio shows do you listen to in your neck of the woods and do
you have a reggae publication?  In Los Angeles/Southern California one of
the better radio shows is "Sounds of Jamaica" with Miss Wirewaist on KPFK
FM (90.7) on Saturdays 2:30-5:30.  The Reggae and African Beat is a great
magazine for a comprehensive overview of the music and of African, soca,
Middle Eastern, salsa etc. etc.  A subscription is well worth it.

Alva Moore Stevenson
From: larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence)
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Date: 29 Jul 92 22:42:39 GMT
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In article <9207290829.AA16397@is1.vub.ac.be> philstas@VUB.AC.BE (Stas Philippe) writes:
>Let's keep a minute of silence for dear old Frank Zappa, who died
>due to a cancer problem

This rumor was spread on usenet recently, and was false as of a couple 
weeks ago (as verified by calling 1-800-PUMPKIN).  If you have any facts,
please state exactly where you heard/read this, and not "I think I heard
it on TV" or "someone posted..."

Frank is not in great health, but it's far from obvious that he's going 
to lose the battle.  He has prostate cancer, which is often _not_ fatal.

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry or sun!texsun!csccat!larry
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From:         "Philip R. Lucasse" <s0000162@CALVIN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Testing
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Yes, I received your notice and you should receive this in your mail soon.
Lois Smits
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:10:09 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Country Music
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              "Leonard Watkins" at Jul 28, 92 10:51 am

>
> I'm into some country music like Son House, Skip James just kidding.
> I do like older country (cline,williams,tubb,...etc) but the newer
> slick polished manufactured stuff be it blues country pop rap
> just doesn't do anything it sounds fake and gives me a fake feeling,
> but if you like it that's great.
>
If you would count this as country, Low-Down Eddie, then I love: Hazel and
Alice (mountain girls, recorded about 15 years ago)--really strong voices,
cut right through you. Also I love that some of that OLD country, like Great
Speckled Bird (?) (I'm really bad on remembering titles.)  Also there was a
woman (Marguerite McC....) on the net not long ago asking about country, but I
haven't seen any posts lately from her.  See, if people would just stick
it out and keep
posting on what they like,  you'd drum up some business.  Hang in.  Let's hear
what you think is good...
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:45:00 CDT
From:         DS_GILKESON@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      Country Singin'

Howdy! Now, I LIKE country music but the quickest way I've found to dim
anyones' fondest for it is to spend an evening in a Karaoke bar listening to
Garth Brooks' "The Dance" sung over and over interchangeably with Cline's
"Crazy."  Eeeeeyyyyuuuuuu....

Susan
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:04:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      deja vu

>>From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>

>> It would be good, as Jeff says, to see someone take rap music to a new
>> level, with good musicians. However, I think one of the defining
>> features of rap is its essential democracy: anyone with a boombox and
>> some tape can be a rapper. 'Course, some of 'em SOUND like that, too...
>> :-)

>From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>

>Part of the charm of rap is supposed to be this democratic, street-level thing,
>right? I would like to propose that as soon as you get your hit and make your
>pile, you should be forbidden to do another rap, because now you've become the
>elite, the money and fame have removed you from the grass roots. Now you have
>to learn to sing :-)

I swear I've heard this before.  Back in 1977 or so.  Only then it was
"punk" rather than "rap". 8-)

Of course, before that someone was probably saying the same thing about
"folk singers".

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:13:05 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Lonnie Brooks

Lonnie does have an album called Bayou Lighting Strikes which is live
and also Bayou Lighting. I'm also curious to how the Lonnie Mack album
that SRV is on, is it any good ?, anyone have an opinion
(what a question to ask this group)
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:48:35 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      mainstream merde musicians in the news

From today's Buffalo News (summarized):
  1. BILLY JOEL gets fined $250 for fishing striped bass illegally.
  2. MOODY BLUES get sent back to England. Their visas expired 1 day before a
        Ft. Lauderdale concert, which got cancelled.
  3. MICHAEL JACKSON gets countersued by the paper who said he's disfigured.
  4. WHITNEY HOUSTON sues her condo owners for water damage to her condo.
        She's steamed!

        W O W !! 4 schlockmeisters in the news on the same day !!

With mouth agape,
Rick
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:17:53 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: They're creepy and they're kooky
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              at Jul 21, 92 8:46 am

>Also, where did you find Urban Ambience? Newbury Comics?

	Mike, I tried to ask you the same thing, but I kept getting
rejected mail when I tried to ask you directly. I'd like to get a
copy of that cassette if possible (i.e. without searching high and
low for it). I'm probably going to be in the Harvard Square area on
Friday afternoon, so if you can suggest where I can find it, I'd
appreciate it.

--
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    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:47:29 EST
From:         "W. John Weber" <WWEBER@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Country when Country wasn't cool
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Date sent: 30-JUL-1992

>I have been in country music for a long time and I can say that Country Music
>is more cooler than Rock n' Roll was in the 60's.  The reason for this is
>because of singers like Billy Rae and Travis Trent.
>
>By the way; what ever happen to the guy who said that he singed with Billy Rae
>Cyrus?  I want a response on his address.

     Who's this Travis Trent fella, any relation to Travis Tritt?

                                           - W. John Weber

Email: wweber@ucs.indiana.edu          | It'd be nice if we could set all this
P.O. Box 22, Bloomington, IN 47402     | [sound equipment] up and look at it
Phone: (812)330-4965 (touch-tone pager)| for a while, then tear it down, and
                                       | not have to deal with the performers.
                                       |                          - Anon.
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Thanks for your response, Bob; no, no more buckz, tho' I WOULD appreciate
any feedback yos\44S.
}u you may have on either I.N. or the tape.  If you're interested enuff,
let me know & if I didn't send a copy of my catalog, I'll send that on too.

ROTCOD ZZAJ
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:56:05 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      re: sins and sinners
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              "AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU" at Jul 30, 92 9:33 am

>
> The reason I made the comment in the first place was that some singers like
> Hank Williams Jr. are being treated like groups like Guns n' Roses.  Like the
> song "All my rowdy friends have settled down" saids some of the Country Music
> Groups of the 70's used to get drunk and get wild but now have settled down.
> I remember once in Roanoke during a Hank Williams Jr. concert there were
> riots at the concert that they had to get the police over to break it up.
>
Hey, I think I read (or made up) that there used to be riots at performances of
tragedies back in Ancient Greece.... we're talking about the human creetchur
and the Power of Art, right on, Hank!
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:55:11 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: B.B.
              27 Jul 1992 14:50:20 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

irritates me severely i play sweet little angel but my voice just can't
touch it.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:07:00 -0500
From:         T9014170@PHILLIP.EDU.AU
Subject:      Bill Champlin
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Does anyone out there know if Bill Champlin has released another solo
album in Japan after "No Wasted Moments" can someone in japan or anywhere
please varify this. reply to me or the news.


                                DOc!!!!

                        <t9014170@phillip.edu.au>
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:53:35 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
              27 Jul 1992 12:45:28 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

I was not much of a Buddy Guy fan, although i knew there had to be
something i wasn't hearing ,he just didn't move me, however
i recently got to see him at a fest in town and was i ever wrong
he was incredible and without question one of the best blues guitarist
and entertainer i've ever seen.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:57:59 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: country blues
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              "Leonard Watkins" at Jul 29, 92 7:54 am

>
> strike like...etc i believe is lonnie mack
>
I knew I was wrong on that...but there's lightning in the title (I'll probably
go home and discover there isn't)... anyway, I am definitely talking about
Lonnie Brooks (not Mack--which we also own) and I'll find out which one is the
good one.
From: elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Eber Lambert)
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Subject: Re: Rory Gallagher
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:43:20 GMT
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Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU> writes:

>Anybody know any news onGallagher?  I was listening to his Irish Tour 74 and
>StageStruck (live in Europe 79-80) last night, and thinking (not for the first
>time) that this is
>mindbogglingly great stuff.  That Irish boy has soul.  What's he up to?

I saw Rory in a small club in San Diego last year. He had just put out a 
new album (name?). He still totally rocks. Same bass player that he
had in 79 too...

el   
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:11:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      please buy me 8-)

>From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>

>Yup, lotsa deserving folks right here on this very list. Beer's on a CD, John
>McIntyre's band has a cassette (plus there's a solo cassette, is that right?),
>I'm in two bands that have product to peddle, ROTCOD ZZAJ has a whole catalog
>of underground productions... and I bet we all thank our lucky stars for day
>jobs that allow us to finance these grossly unprofitable activities.

And we thank our lucky stars that the day-job provides net access. 8-)
Just to clarify, I do not have a solo cassette out, rather there are
two bands I play in that each have one cassette out: "On Beyond Music"
by Totentanz and "Ambient Genocide" by Mutually Assured Destruction.
The music is similar on both cassettes, electronic improv with a few
composed bits, recorded in real time without any overdubs.  In fact,
most of the Totentanz tape was recorded in concert.  "Ambient Genocide"
is the more recent of the two and is denser sounding due to the additional
equipment collected since Totentanz.

For ordering information, contact Marco at olivotto@itncisca

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Tunnel hearing

>Apparently some French anthropologists in New Guinea brought along some Edith
>Piaf and played it for some aborigines who had never heard
>Western music--they couldn't stand the sound of it and ran away screaming.

        Edith Piaf? Yuck, I sympathise with the aborigines! :) :) :)

        Ciao, Marco "starving at the desk and therefore hopefully forgivable
                     for one of the crappiest postings of the year"
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:34:50 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      B.B.
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  Well, maybe if B.B. King got back to local bars, etc. he might see
more blacks.  If he keeps playing his upscale Vegas type of places, he's
gonna keep crying.  Makes me wonder if he's crying for himself.  Pretty
harsh, I know, but it seems to me he's made his own bed.....

Russ
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      What do we HEAR? [was: RE: The Lamb...]

Sonia Kovitz writes:

>re: Peter Gabriel--what seems to me most interesting (rather than my epithet)
>is that I just can't "hear" what's going on in that stuff... so it seems
>without even recognizing what the music was (since I'm obviously not into that
>type of music), I could never attach it to a particular name to remember who
>was playing... My only memory of having heard it (beyond my husband's remark,
>reminding me) is of frustration... it was lots of sound that seemed very
>"empty" to me,

        This is something I actually experienced when I first heard Steve
Reich's "drumming". It's strange, mostly because one things "how come I
spend my money on such stuff?". But, simply, it took me some N passes (N
is an integer, relatively large) to appreciate that minimalism. Gabriel
is far less minimalist than Reich, though he is surely as empty as he can
possibly be if you compare him to, say, Chuck Berry.
        Anyway, one of the most intelligent things ever said in music was
said by Chester Thompson, a black drummer who played with several headlining
acts, included Frank Zappa: "in the Zappa period I learned that NOT to play
is as important as to play". To put it differently, music has rests and empty
spaces too (one of the reasons why I don't feel that comfortable with some
"wall-of-sound" thrash-metal acts, but it's just my taste).
        Simply, and this is probably the MOST beautiful thing in music, there
are as many kinds of music as pebbles in a river. When I was a kid, around 12,
I was a total Rolling Stones head, and I would never have believed that I may
buy Steve Reich one day. Probably, if I had kicked the friend who first played
me some Genesis and King Crimson out of the room I'd still be Jagger-dependent,
so I guess it's a sort of open-mindedness that one builds up in time - as long
as he wants to.

>certain types of people are "supposed" to listen to...  We can get stuck in our
>own little boxes...but it's sometimes hard to break out.

        It's very worth trying, anyway. My playlist at home yesterday night
was Muddy Waters, the Spent Poets (psychedelic rock), Now (a Belgian progres-
sive band) and some Tchaikowski... :)
        And a great evening it was!

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:44:18 PST
From:         FRANK@LAW.UCLA.EDU
Subject: RE: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
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------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
<Does anyone know if there exists movie footage from the
<Genesis' "Lamb Lies Down" tour?  I have the Genesis: a History
<on videotape, and it shows a little bit of stuff from the concerts.
<I would love to see that tour if it was captured on celluloid.

<Also, does anyone know if Peter Gabriel plans to tour for his next
<album?  And when is his next album supposed to come out?
<It's been over a year since his first official release date for it.

<Just wondering.

< 3M


      Funny you should mention "The Lamb".  I just listened to it
last night for the first time in about six months.  I don't know
but everytime I hear "Hairless Heart"  I get a tingle.

      Anyway, yes, there is footage of "the Lamb".  However, it will
never see the light of day.  Genesis has the tapes squirrled away.
Peter Gabriel sometime back in the mid-eighties had the idea of
making a film, with all the original members of the band (excluding
Ant Phillips & John Mayhew) of "the Lamb" with a re- recorded
soundtrack, but the darned thing never got off the ground.

      I have seen some very bad home movies of the tour and they are
just good enough to bring back the memories.

      God and Peter Gabriel only know when a new recording will be
out.  Hopefully soon.  If so he usually tours within six months of
release.

Frank
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:56:42 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      country blues
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What do you think of Lonnie Brooks?  I think he has a great country edge to his
mean ol blues.

No one ever told me who James McMurtry is.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:57:32 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: santana phish
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              Jul 22, 92 9:39 am

Russ say:

>   Re. Santana:  Read an interview with him where he says he wasn't really
>into recording in the late 70's and early 80's; he would just show up and
>put down his guitar parts.  Says he was just into jamming with people.  But
>that changed about the time of Blues for Salvador (which, btw, has some
>great music), and now he's back into it again.  As far as I know, Santana
>doesn't have a new album, so I'm not sure what Carlos is up to.

	Actually, Santana does have a new album out. It's called
_Milagro_ on the Polydor label. A quote from the newsletter
"Progression" says:

	"...with more than 70 minutes of music, it represents somewhat
of a return to the band's early '70s style of hot Latin fusion. Four
cuts exceed seven minutes, and the lyrical themes are very positive
and spiritual."

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:34:55 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Rory Gallagher
              23 Jul 1992 09:45:01 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

I know he has some recent stuff out, but i can't recall the name. I
picked up a new Albert King Live on Charly label (Masterworks) and
Rory plays on As The Years Go Passing By , it's a very good cd and
R.G. plays well, but Albert is Albert so R.G. has to take a back
seat excellent cd.
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