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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:03:47 IST
From:         "PETER JUST, ANTHROPOLOGY,
              WILLIAMS COLLEGE" <PJUST@WILLIAMS.BITNET>
Subject:      NB4.0 and Windows 3.1
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

I have just upgraded to NB4.0, which I am trying to run under Windows 3.1
Nota Bene ran fine at first, but when I set the symbol set to "ASCII and
italics" the screen goes blank when I run it from Windows, though it's
still fine when I run NB from DOS.  I deeply suspect there is something
I should do to a .PIF file.  Any suggestions?

Peter Just
Anthropology, Williams College
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:34:47 IST
Comments:     Resent-From: "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: "Ranon Katzoff"
              <F21003@BARILAN.BITNET>
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      sublinear dot
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

Can anybody help? __ IEZ

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi,
  While working with Nota Bene 3 (Shapirit) + SLS and an
HP Laserjet IIIp, it is important for me to be able to produce
Greek text with a dot under any letter. This is used in
papyrological publications to indicate letters that are not
read unambiguously on the papyrus. Colleagues abroad using NB,
which variety I do not know, have this ability as a print-mode
function, CNTL-0. Have you ever run into this problem? Can
you suggest any solution?
  I, and two of my graduate students as well, will be very
grateful for any advise you can give.

Sincerely,
Ranon Katzoff
Dept. of Classical Studies
Bar Ilan University
Ramat Gan 52900

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:40:33 GMT
From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Note extract/reinsert--SOLUTION
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
              938:20 am

Allan Needell wrote........
>
>
> From: Allan Needell
>
> >>>>>>>>> the nertwork mailer does not
> like lines that begin with periods**

I like it, I like it! Clearly, a "nertwork" is a perjorative term for
a network which has sustained a serious disprovement, and is in need
of some vigorous Devon-style bodging!?


> ...................................................The only one
> I found is that I had occasionally ended a note with a paragraph
> marker, which leaves and extra line in the *.fn1 file when viewed in
> expanded mode.  I removed all such instances and lo and behold, the
> notes reinserted without a problem.
>
> I hope this will prove workable for other problem chapters.  I wonder
> why the program doesn't like extra blank lines?
>

I am aware of problems in NB3 with labels or footnotes which contained
a -> as the last character (in expanded mode, thus, immediately before
the closing >>). This seems to be a problem with NB4, huh?

Sorry, that with this knowledge, I did not make the suggestion to
Allan. It never occurred to me; it was the sort of situation where the
answer would be immediately obvious if one could have seen the file.
One hopes......

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 Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
 Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
 Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
 JANET: M.E.Bennun@uk.ac.exeter; Internet: M.E.Bennun@exeter.ac.uk
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 93 09:09:33 EST
From:         Rip Lhamon <wlhamon@GARNET.ACNS.FSU.EDU>
Subject:      save input window
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This is a follow-up to a message I sent yesterday asking for help with an
xpl program.  I needed a program to be able to assign to a key that would
allow me to save a file from within an input window (footnote or label),
then return the cursor to where it was before the automatic save function
started beeping at me.
This morning, after sleeping on it, I managed this string:
<<SX01,<<CP>>>>OV efDX XD OV saBK OV bkDO XL OV efBC JMP <<PV01>>XC
    [with programming brackets replaced here with signs for them]
This works fine the first time.  But unless I manually close the window and
re-enter it, I cannot run the program a second time successfully.  On
subsequent invokings (without the manual closing and opening), the program
stops after closing the window and does not reopen it or return the cursor
to the spot.

Any advice?
Rip Lhamon
wlhamon@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 11:49:39 CET
From:         Harry Falk <FALK@IBM.RUF.UNI-FREIBURG.DE>
Subject:      fonts deblocking
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

still working with NB3 cum SLS I wonder if someone out there had the same
problem and solved it:
the HP-fonts which come with SLS, like TA..., TG..., TC...8rp, have an
inbuild blocking system which prevents any sort of manipulation, like
altering characters, bolding them, enlarging etc. I would like to toy
around with these fonts, and therefore have to circumvent the blocking
system. How to do it?
The EGA-screen for SLS is likewise blocked (unlike the Herc+ batch, which
behaves properly). Who knows how to break the lock?
The regular NB-screen fonts are also blocked, but here the system is easy:
the very first character should be a dot, ".", which is replaced by the
tiny middle dot, Alt-space (NB3). Change this to a dot and the font is open.
Harry Falk
falk@ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de
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From:         Austin Kerr <akerr@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      wonder
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I wonder if the new owners of Nota Bene are monitoring the traffic on this list
and keeping track of the problems we are encountering (and solving)?
--
K. Austin Kerr                    direct line to office 614-292-2613
Professor of History              department line           292-2674
Ohio State University             fax                       292-2282
Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA          e mail           kerr.6@osu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 09:31:33 EST
From:         dave reimer f <dreimer4@MACH1.WLU.CA>
Subject:      DEFAULT.SET? (Was: Re: Unchangeable minimum page length)
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              from"@vm.utcs.utoronto.ca:NOTABENE@TAUNIVM.BITNET" at Jan 21,
              93 1:05 pm

>
> I still think that Peter Parisi's problems are due to default.set not
> loading or not loading properly, and thus the system not doing what
> default.set tells it to do. The fact that more than one setting fails
> seems to support this. I am totally un-"pace-ed"!!!
>
I think, Mervyn, that the "pace" has to do with the fact NB 4.0 does
not *have* a DEFAULT.SET file! (If yours does, well . . . .) NB 4.0
has two SET files: NBCUSTOM.SET, and NBFORMAT.SET. I can't recall if
Peter said he was working with 3.0/3.1 (if so, forgive me!). Sometimes
the pace is just too much....

David.
--
David J. Reimer, Religion & Culture                  Fax: (519) 886-9351
Wilfrid Laurier University                   Phone: (519) 884-1970 x2680
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:10:55 EST
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: input window save
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From: Allan Needell

J-P's notesave.run does work, but only if the cursor is at a place that really
is inside the note. If the cursor is at the end of a note, because of some
quirks in the way the program calculates cursor position, the program thinks
it is outside. If you move the cursor a few space inside the note,
notesave.runwill do the trick every time.

I know J-P has lots of work to do, and I'm not trying to get him to go on and
create another gold-plated xpl program (like nb4clean.run). I feel more than a
little responsible for all of the time he devoted to the email programs, while
I got back to the job for which I am being paid. Notesave.run is useable as it
currently stands.

Regards,
Allan A. Needell (NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU)
Dept. of Space History, National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC 20560  (202/357-2828)
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:23:54 -0500
From:         "Robert A. Kelly" <rkelly3@MACH1.WLU.CA>
Subject:      Re: scholarly authors as compositors
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1993, Ada_W.Finifter wrote:

> Although I agree the publisher should do it, as a practical solution,
> it seems to me Peter's friend could avoid all these annoying typesetting
> issues by hiring someone familiar with his word processor to do it.  Someone
> who was more expert with the word processor could probably do the job very
> quickly; it might involve nothing more than inserting a few commands.
> If the friend is using a standard package like WP, it's hard to imagine the
> publisher would not find it easier to do it in-house rather than going through
> this back and forth process with the author.

This is an excellent suggestion if one has the money or gets a grant.  As
a footnote, though, I recently received a grant where the grantors were
perfectly willing to have me use the money to pay the university computing
dept. to scan texts and hire a student to proofread the files so that I
can Textbase or Orbis (I still like Format 6 the best and Orbis won't)
them, but the grant specifically stated that I was not to use any of the
money for "word processing costs" (Thank goodness none of the granting
committee had ever heard of NB or they might have said that Textbasing is
the same as word processing).  I'm not sure of their rationale, but such a
rule would seem to preclude Ada's wise recommendation.

We should also be aware that some scholarly publishing houses these days
are not "houses" at all, but one dedicated scholar who makes deals with
printers, designers, binders, etc., so there is no real "in-house" to do
such work.  Some of these people do an amazing service to scholarship.
_______

Robert A. Kelly
Waterloo Lutheran Seminary/Wilfrid Laurier University
75 University Ave. W.
Waterloo, Ontario N2L 5K5                 519-884-1970, ext. 2853
Canada                                          Fax: 519-725-2434
Internet: rkelly3@mach1.wlu.ca


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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:54:36 GMT
From:         FP103@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: :Note extract/reinsert:
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

Allan:

I have reported the problem to NB UK, but I was under the impression that it
related to my machine only. I have complained about it before--It is a very
early Zenith Supersport SX which has a known problem with its motherboard (a
new motherboard will cost me more than a new compaq contura, so I have decided
to live with it until either it dies or I have 2000 dollars left over for a
Northgate ZXPortable--which incidentally is identical to the 2800 dollar-Zenith
Z-NOTE). However, the fact that you report the same problem, and the fact that
the Viglen machines at work have the same problem gives some hope for a
solution.

The programs that follow in XXENCODED format are very simple and do not contain
any kind of error-checking. Although they will not destroy anything they will
not work properly unless they are run from the window with the extracted notes
and unless ALT-F10 brings you to the window with the main text file (without
notes). There  are three programs (REINS1.RUN, REINS2.RUN and REINS3.RUN).
Reins1.run works on level1 notes, reins2.run on level 2 notes, etc.


I hope you will find that they fill the gap until NBI get their act together.

Frederik Pedersen, Carlsberg Fellow, Cambridge
----------------------------------------

section 1 of xxencode 5.15 of file notes.zip    by R.E.M.

begin 644 notes.zip
hI2g1-+c++++4+4ZsSFYySijXvU+++5U-+++8++++IYJ7HZAl9Z7JHUw+2UAY
h3HMbC1ZeSomRPVw7-U2HBCLqZjTz-ksWTCjzU7QU6k552rvBwVy8Pnir92Wi
hfcT0BCfoBFTc2kUT6Zg-Fqyco1JHcKbRR0yLvajLI8J89PBA3LwKdBCrRCNX
hxfFZts8A0R73A5z3h-SRsdnET3HK6AAY0h7pKfCiu5zJx2SNgUovZuuPcjpJ
hqMPpftNWRzgKjGZbBXEktT-9l05+Xk5C+JzGhf+h9u96f4oIDawGBDsAGSnx
hk1y2TkIpTkIpHFNYIOUxOM7EAbjKg48K2KBq4AnwVl2d9Gr5GM8YtM0792g4
hn7T34mBjpkVEGkA20U++++M+8Ldt4JUQ0IPi++++S+2+++c+++-GFIZCIn6i
hIZJC1k+G+mEJBWQsCKdvH7pi5kY4+FAotTOKxzw51W7wuzy+Zm+X+QQHTgrm
h5sdjCvQgG8uiVw6oujEp3yUH0-wWKk35PuXEBJCVORpo9tTiOxREdIchgokJ
hTlOYovRotaDqh4LbUck7oYIkTwKo3trWbB-wJBMUkmE8obJOguvcTxLoFtam
h1HiLfdiWzJLNVjKjZa7rylOx8KQqB11Zw2j26Q0L+Qs-Lx8qg0ojcgWgPFEy
hPl6ozUl7vDr+DsFz-HJz-HJB3aFFe1pdUZ+mSxOkMdMFMrMMnDm52GYh9QR7
hUeHZU6YgGkPAZwIP6qzL03-9+kE8++++-U+NSbYNSXtL7Ss+++-s+E++0U++
h+373GItHAmtGJIsD+-617-Iq7nUtObhAbKsT0EM-2nHZxdPrzkQC6bnfzs0L
h60A-llBynT6TWawvhml6feu5kXHex1ILu-A65m7P+IRjeB+pIu3drLEjZytf
hpp0ZGWqnH-Jz3eHHhrHaMzOoNSS0X+bGFH-zlPELbS8Qo5lIpW117+fGRJen
hfiVzpTF5aP6BCtSiau9xJRa4xOyKMbTv3fodNnMoACLkGwEVk7w-nU3TofOk
h9GyWm8lh31tj2XHy12bgzQ+zV5w3BLw3BIoKN34cDKa0I17vpf-WZV3XRVXA
hz6QF8Gohloa0dCK+WGl9-gmLlFgXPxQ6I2g-+Ug+0U++++M+OLVt4HtuuyDi
h++++S+2+++c++++++++++++U+++++++++373GItHAGtGJItEGk200k+8++++
h-U+dSbYNK-k7Fis+++-s+E++0U+++++++++++0+++++K+E++IYJ7HZAm9Z7J
hHZ-9+E69++c++++4+-ZuSFZuDZQZvU+++5U-+++8++++++++++++6++++0k0
W++-GFIZCInAiIZJCI2g3-U+++++1++A+e++++261++++++++
+
end
sum -r/size 35241/1440 section (from "begin" to "end")
sum -r/size 8113/1024 entire input file
From: M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
Subject: Re: DUPLICATES
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:06:34 GMT
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              93 10:28 am

David H. Hesla wrote........
>
>
> Many duplicate postings arrived today--five copies of M. Bennun's penitential
> compensation.  A true instance of supererogation.
>

Not my fault - nothing to do with me. And Mark Szuchman's either
chicken or takes foolish risks.....
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           _
 Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
 Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
 Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
 JANET: M.E.Bennun@uk.ac.exeter; Internet: M.E.Bennun@exeter.ac.uk
From: M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
Subject: Re: saving ibid items
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:33:27 GMT
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              93 8:52 pm

Joseph Tzelgov wrote........
>
>
> could one save an ibid item   on floppy and in order to save it latter
> in another computer?

Having just made a fool of myself, let me do penance!

Yes, you can. You can add it on to the nbbibnnn.dat file provided you
do it carefully so that it is correctly structured. Then update the
bibliography.

The simplest thing might be, instead, to use the same nbbibnnn.dat
file in all the computers you are working on; then the new data will
be added correctly, and I think one should have a backup copy of this
file on another disk anyway. Just copy it across from one machine to
the other and use the update procedures.  I take my laptop into the
Law library, work on Ibid, save the file onto a disk, copy it across
to my desktop machine; then before I work again on Ibid on my laptop,
I make sure that the file is copied across from the desk machine. So
there is always a backup on a floppy too. I believe in backups with
passion; I wear a belt and braces, and would push a skewer through my
navel if I could......

Do others agree with this advice?

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 Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
 Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
 Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
 JANET: M.E.Bennun@uk.ac.exeter; Internet: M.E.Bennun@exeter.ac.uk
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:14:02 SET
From:         Peter Resch <UETX01@UNIDOZR.HRZ.UNI-DORTMUND.DE>
Subject:      Who gives me more information about NB ?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene




I'm interesting in using NB and I'm looking for more information about
NB (Who sell it ?  Is it PD ?  Where can I find documentation ? etc.)




Thanks,


Peter R.
University Dortmund
Germany

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From:         ROBERT A ROTHSTEIN <rar@TITAN.UCS.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      Thanks
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A belated "thank-you" to all those who were kind enough to reply
to my request for installation advice.

Bob Rothstein
University of Massachusetts at Amherst
rar@titan.ucs.umass.edu
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU>
Subject:      strange
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From: Allan Needell

Austin,

I have no experience with 486's or drdos, but now many, many hours of using
nb4 on a 386 with dos5. There are a few quirks, all I know have been worked
through or around with the help of list members. All in all, nb4 is no less
stable in the sense you mean than nb3.1 or the other programs I regularly use.
The problems you describe appear to my electronic ear more likely artifacts of
the data transfer process. Are you going from double to high density drives?
Have you run a disk test program on the floppies ot "revived" with a program
like Morton Utilties?

Regards,
Allan A. Needell (NASSH100@SIVM.SI.EDU)
Dept. of Space History, National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC 20560  (202/357-2828)
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From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Note extract/reinsert--SOLUTION
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              9310:01 am

Allan Needell wrote........
>
> OK Mervyn, what is it? (I mean your attempt at ascii art)

The view across Table Bay from Bloubergstrand. Cape Town. Home.

     Devil's    The "Table"      Lions's
      Peak                Upper   Head
       |             |    Cable     |
                           St'n
                            |

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 Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
                                                 (Where I live. Not home)
 Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
 Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
 JANET: M.E.Bennun@uk.ac.exeter; Internet: M.E.Bennun@exeter.ac.uk
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:34:56 -0500
From:         "M. Roy Harris" <mrh3b@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      SLIP
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Is anyone on this list using SLIP (the Serial Line Internet
Protocol) with a high-speed modem? If so, I would like to hear
from you -- privately would probably be better since there may be
no general interest in the subject.

Roy Harris - University of Virginia
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU, mrh3b@Virginia.Bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:33:00 EST
From:         Rip Lhamon <wlhamon@GARNET.ACNS.FSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: input window save
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

Greetings:
J-P Takala sent me a short xpl string that he says solves the problem I had
described as below.
>
>> I have tried to create a program, that I could assign to a key, that
>> would close the input window, save the file, reopen the input
>> window, and return me to the spot where I was composing.
>>this works at least for my 4.0 (uppercased pairs of letters stand for
>program functions, lowercase for regular text)
>
><<sx01,<<cp>>>>BC saXC BC jmp <<pv01>>XC OV efXC
>
>------------------------- Start of *.XXE --------------------
>begin 644 notesave.run
>gfbBsA12gfaBkfuzzUFxnMTy-0Ty-5qdhQ00iQ5MkAOzzUEbzUfZZNjy-0Fch
>+
>end
This does not work on my 4.0.  What happens is that when the string saves
the file, it closes the input window and leaves the cursor outside the note.

The following string that I worked out works better for me, but it still
does not do the job I want because although it works the first time it is
invoked, if I continue to work in the window and then try to save when the
annoying beep begins, then the window closes and I am left outside it, as
with J-P's string. Here's my program:

<<SX01,<<CP>>>>OV efBC saXC XL OV efBC JMP <<PV01>>XC

I really don't understand why the thing behaves differently the second
time.  And I'm puzzled, too, by why J-P's program doesn't work for me.

I am pursuing this issue partly because it annoys me and partly because I
know at least one former NB user who switched to a competitor partly because
this particular annoyance was the straw that . . . .
Rip Lhamon
wlhamon@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
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Subject:      Editors
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I too am the editor of a journal, and, rather than give in to the superior
marketing effects of WP, I require submissions in either NB, XyWrite or
ASCII on disk.  It makes my job of editing somewhat easier, shocks some
(a good thing from my perspective), and fights hegimony.

--Ken Salzberg
ksalzber@hamline.edu
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