From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Subject: Re: A Technical Request
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:18:42 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1992Oct7.020617.4255@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, by madkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Martin L. Adkins):
> It never fails to amaze me to see the frustration that liberals will
> demonstrate almost on cue when someone dares to disagree with their drivel.
> The intelligent will notice that no substantial issues were raised.  Simply
> irrelevant name calling and mindless personal attacks on people that the
> attacker only vaguely knows.  Also noteworthy is the lapse into vulgarity
> which is of course the last refuge of a limited vocabulary. As to the charge
> that all these people that have the "gall" to disagree with the politically
> correct are "near fascist", is that like being sorta pregnant?  Make your
> points.  Take your shots.  But please try and keep the discussion a notch
> above gutteral ramblings.   P.S leave your address, I'll send you a dollar
> so you can buy a clue.

1. Pointless enclusion of multi-page previous postings seems to be a trait
   of the conservatives whose posts wander into alt.fan.dan-quayle.  If
   you cross post here (here being a.f.dq) please keep it succinct.  The
   include-the-post-you're replying to is supposed to be pared down to just
   what's needed to provide context for your post.

2. Mindless inclusion of groups for cross posting ist streng verboten.
   It wastes net bandwidth, and annoys people for no good purpose.
   The post to which I'm replying was posted to

	talk.abortion
	talk.politics.guns
	alt.conspiracy
	alt.fan.dan-quayle
	alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
	talk.bizarre

   What do any of the constituencies of these groups have in common?

3. Fans of Rush Limbaugh have no right to ask for a raising of the level of
   discourse.  I actually forced myself to sit through an hour of that boil
   on the ass of Humanity yesterday, and it confirmed my opinion of him.

   a. He is a self serving egotist who has no real agenda other than baiting
      liberals and making money.
   b. He preys upon people who are overwhelmed by a complicated, scary ugly
      world, giving them simplistic answers and validation for their
      prejudices.  Most of his diatribes are completely uncontaminated by
      any sort of facts.
   c. If you grant conservatives the illusion that their ideology and
      opinions have something to do with traditional Christian values
	  (not something I'm willing to do), then to be consistent, they'll
      banish this guy to the outer darkness.  The man has about as much
      charity in his heart as a mud shark.

Not only that, I looked at his book the other day, and it's even worse.  If
there are any thoughtful rational conservatives out there, they should be
embarrassed as hell that this guy calls himself a conservative.

Now I am a liberal, in the broad sense, but I don't feel like ANY of
these 'conservative' guys have any idea what I really think.  From the
president on down, I hear a lot of whining and complaining about what
the 'Liberals' have done to the country.  Never mind that
'conservatives' have been in power for 20 of the last 24 years.  Never
mind that they've perverted the concept of free enterprise into
welfare for the rich. Never mind that they've done what they can to
gut our educational system, and then blamed it on the teachers and
administrators who've tried to do more and more with less and less.
Never mind that they've tried to undo 50 years of progress in civil
rights.  Never mind that they've propped up scumbag dictators, and
then started wars with them when they got too uppity.

The matter of fact is that the American 'conservative' movement is
morally, economically, and politically bankrupt.  They will go down in
flames this year.  Bill Clinton wasn't my first choice for President,
but I think his decisions will be informed by two questions: 1. What
is the right thing to do? 2. How do implement it effectively?  George
Bush's decision making is informed by nothing but greed, distrust and
hatred, and an overweening desire to maintain his own power and
position.  It makes me want to vomit.
--
Kent Williams -- williams@cs.uiowa.edu Work(335-4496) Home(338-6053)
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