HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Hybrid Arts Digital Master (Direct Disk Recording)
From: fabrizio@deis65.cineca.it (Fabrizio Lugli)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:51:48 GMT

My opinion having tried all the systems currently available for the Atari is
don't buy Hybrid Arts, instead wait for the new Yamaha CBX-D5 (prewieved in
Frankfurt). It's a 4-track hard disk recording system all in one box that
connects into the DMA port of the computer. It contains an internal DSP for
mixing, equalizing, reverb, chorus and other effects. It fully multitasks with
the Atari and allows use of other sequencers (like the forthcoming Cubase
Audio... really powerful).

Definitely it's worth waiting some months.

			Fabrizio Lugli
		fabrizio@deis64.cineca.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Word Processors
From: Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:58:54 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <12159@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> twright@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Tom Wright) writes:
> 
>   I've been looking for a decent word processor for my ST.  Right now I'm still
> using (gasp!) ST-Writer and it's okay, but I'd like to get something better.  
> I'm a real fan of Microsoft Word for the Mac, so something similar would be 
> nice.
>   Features I would want are:  automatic footnoting, style sheets or equivalent,
> ability to import graphics and flow text, variety of font sizes and styles,
> and Postscript-to-disk output.
>   Note that I DON'T want a page-layout program, just a word processor.  I read
> a review of 1st Word Plus some time back and it seemed to have most of these
> features.  Can anyone comment?  Plug your favorite program, here's your chance.
> 

Well it looks like you had better start writing one, this is one
Platform that the Atari lacks...
-- 
***  Roger W. Sheppard      *      Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz  ***
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From: ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Is there any public domain gdos fonts?
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:27:06 GMT
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France
In-reply-to: kjackson@cix.compulink.co.uk's message of 31 Mar 92 17:13:07 GMT

And what about public domain GDOS printer fonts for a standard Epson
FX-80? 

Thanks in advance,

--
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Ralph.Sobek@laas.fr			   Addresses are ordered by importance.
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ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph	      sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
Phone: (+33-)61-33-62-66  FAX-1: (+33-)61-33-64-55  FAX-2: (+33-)61-55-35-77
===============================================================================
Got a Mega 4 ST. Wish it was a Mega STe? :-|  Do I *really* want a TT/Next? ;~#
From: muts@fysap.fys.ruu.nl (Peter Mutsaers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Zoo 2.1 binary which works with Mint with Minix partition wanted
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:09:53 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Rijks Universiteit Utrecht


Just as the title says I am looking for such a binary. My current one
(from atari.archive) gives bus error, does not do well with
upper/lower case distinction etc.
Does a better (i.e. more original) zoo2.1 exist?
--
_________________________________________________________________________
Peter Mutsaers.         |================================================ 
muts@fysap.fys.ruu.nl   |              Memento Mori
From: reeuwijk@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl (C. van Reeuwijk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Problems with a HD drive in a Mega STe
Keywords: HD, Mega STe
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:26:21 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

This is a warning to all people considering installing a HD drive
in a Mega STe: not all Mega STes are suitable for this.

The dutch company 'ATIN' sells a 'HD upgrade kit' for the Mega STe
which consists of a HD drive and an instruction leaflet.  According to
the text in and on the box, it fits in all Mega STes, although
some might require a replacement disk controller. This did not work
for me, and ATIN now tells me that they have discovered recently that some
Mega STes require a more extensive modification.

The man from ATIN could tell that my Mega STe requires modification from the
first part of the serial number on the bottom. For my computer this is 'A1 13'
(these characters are stamped, not printed like the rest of the serial number).

According to him, the modification was too difficult to describe easily,
so he did not tell me what is was; he told me to bring my computer to
them. Since I don't want modifications like that in my computer, I did
not insist, but I am curious.

I have given up on the HD drive for now.

Conclusion: even for a Mega STe, changing to a HD drive might be complicated.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
C. van Reeuwijk                  e-mail: reeuwijk@et.tudelft.nl
Delft University of Technology   Phone: +15-781429
Dep. of Electronic Engineering   Telefax: +15-785922
Mekelweg 4
2628 CD  Delft, The Netherlands
From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Atari 1040STe STILL for sale...
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:04:16 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


    =================================================================
   | FOR SALE - FOR SALE - FOR SALE - FOR SALE - FOR SALE - FOR SALE |
    =================================================================

    - Atari 1040STe with 4mb ram (about 2 months old...)
    	Great home computer.
    - 115 megs of HD space:
        Seagate ST296N and Seagate ST138N w/ICD ADSCI+ Host Adapter
        both mounted in a dual width, half height custom case (still
        room for another 5 1/4" mechanism...I mounted the 138N behind
        the 296 to leave room for a Syquest which I never ended up
        buying)...powered by a 150watt XT power supply...
    - SC1224 Color Monitor:  640x200 (Med and Low res)
    - SM124 Mono Monitor:  640x400 (High res)
    - Monitor Master switcher
    - Spectre 128 w/Spectre v3.0 software
        In case you don't know what this is, it's a Macintosh
        emulator.  Runs 20% faster than a Plus (actually it feels
        more like a Mac II since the HD access is about 500% faster
        and Macs rely heavily on disk access).  30 megs of HD are
        dedicated to Spectre, with all the best Mac Apps running
        flawlessly in Mac mode.
    - LOTS AND LOTS of software...installed on the HD and on about
      200 disks.  Great apps (current versions) and great games (new
      and old).

I am selling because I have to convert over to the PC platform due to
the nature of my job.  I'll be sad to see it go.

Everything above for $1200 + COD charges (negotiable)
                     -----

Email me at adhir@cygnus.umd.edu or call me at (301) 441-2634.

                    ------------------------------
From: yegerleh@magellan.ecn.purdue.edu (James D Yegerlehner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Who sells FSM GDOS?
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:05:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr6.190504.18411
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Hello,
Wasn't there an announcement months back from Atari that FSM GDOS
was ready to ship?  Does anyone know of someplace that sells it?
Is it still being packaged with Word Flair II? 
Jim
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Rumours about new releases....
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA  90041
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:22:05 GMT

Well, what about the SHARP/APPLE PDA thingy, that is supposed to give
you '040 performance on it's applications, with a Mac-like non-compatible
interface for under $600 retail?

Thom

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Jim.Kung@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Jim Kung)
Subject: HD Drive?
Reply-To: Jim.Kung@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Jim Kung)
Organization: The Magic BBS (Debug Computer Services)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:35:33 GMT
Keywords: 
 
 

Hi, I'm sure this must be a FAQ, but I'm wondering about connecting a
3.5" HD External Drive to my ST(f).  Here's the criteria :
 
1. Works completely with GEM/TOS.
2. Fairly inexpensive/quick set-up.
 
Please reply via net-mail, as I don't read this group very closely.
 
Thanks.
 
                             |            - Ministry of Taxation
Jim.Kung@debug.cuc.ab.ca     |    "I only bill to know I'm alive..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ac999108@umbc5.umbc.edu (ac999108)
Subject: OverScan Mod
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing 
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:47:51 GMT

Hey all out there is Hardware Modding land.  I was considering playing with 
the Overscan mod due to its incredible complexity (A couple of components.. :)
but don't know if its worth it.  Has anyone out there put it in?  Is it worth
it?  Any tips or comments about it?  If so, drop me a line...  thanks..


-- 
   /------------/ Paul Danckaert /---------------------------------------/
   /----------------------/ Ac999108@Umbc5.Umbc.Edu /--------------------/
   /----/ Fnet#500 /-------------------/ GEnie: P.Danckaert /------------/

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dinsmm@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Michael John Dinsmore)
Subject: Help with Moria and ZOO
Summary: help with moria and zoo
Keywords: moria, zoo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:45:26 GMT

Greetings.
I have been trying to get moria for my ST this weekend.  I tried
getting ti from atari.archive.umich.edu and the kukalba (whatever)
site where it originates from.  First my deARCer didn;t work.  So
I got myself the newest and latest version.  Still no dice.  I couldn't
even get the arc shell program to work.  Then I got the ZOOed version
of moria and treid deZOOing it.  No dice.  I always get bombs wheneverr
I try running ZOO.  Is it a buggy version? How many different versions
are there going around? I had two ZOO programs and each of them had a 
diffenerent filesize. Weird.
Well, I'd like to get moria and hopefully a working version of ZOO
soon.  I usually know what I am doing but this is a bad weekend for me or
something....
Regards,

    ___  ___    
   /  |\/  |\  Michael Dinsmore
  /   |/   ||  dinsmm@rpi.edu
 / /|   /| ||  Michael_Dinsmore@MTS.RPI.EDU
/_/ |__/ |_||  Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
\_\/\__\/\_\|  Computer and Systems Engineering
From: cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Word Processors
Keywords: word processor dtp
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:14:48 GMT
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada

The only word processor I have for my ST is what came with it:  1st Word.
The funny thing is that I also got a program called 1st Word to Postscript.
So, type up your stuff using 1st word, then run it through 1stWord to PS and
you have the post script version of your file on the disk, then send it some-
where where you can send the file to the laser...  Although the file only sets
the font up as courier, you can always edit the post script file so that you
can change the font.  
 
   ____
    / o n y.
 
P.S - Are there any PD word processors that are better than 1st Word.  It's 
the only WP I have and use.  I wouldn't mind buying a copy of Word Perfect for
the ST...
From: fs21@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de (Thomas Walter Neser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: need pd-btx-decoder
Date: 9 Apr 1992 07:46:57 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello,
i search for a pd-btx-decoder dor atari st, has anyone seen such a beastie?
Thanks
--
Thomas Neser
Zeus im MZES, Universitaet Mannheim, Steubenstr. 46, D-6800 Mannheim, Germany
BITNET: m75 at dhdurz1 INTERNET: fs21@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de
X400: C=de; A=dbp ; P=uni-mannheim; OU=rz; OU=munix; S=neser;
FIDO: Thomas Neser 2:247/13 MAGICNET: Mannheim@garfield
UUCP: unima!fs21 ZERBERUS: T_Neser@jokl.zer PC-NET: Mannheim;pc-info
FAX: +49-621-292-8435 TEL: +49-621-292-8473 SEVEN: Mannheim@nirvana
From: aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TOS 1.0 => 1.4
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:45:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr16.004516.3866
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


It sounds like your friend has EPROMS instead of the standard
masked ROMs.  In that case, he'll have to do some wiring to make
them work.  I'm not sure exactly what you do, as there are two
versions of the EPROMS, each one requiring something different.
I suggest you call Bob Puff at Computer Software Services, or
Brad at Best Electronics.  They can tell you how to wire the
EPROMS.
 
There is a way to convert a serial mouse from a PC to the ST.
There was an article in a past ST Report (or was it Z*Net?)
that shows how.  Maybe someone knows exactly which one, as most
of the issues are available on atari.archive.
 
ROb
-- 
| Robert Glover                               GEnie:  R.GLOVER3 |
| Internet:           rg@turing.acs.virginia.edu                |
| Cleveland Freenet:  aq115@cleveland.freenet.edu               |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Making the screen one line
Message-Id: <A38651@MS.maus.de>
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 00:43:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.04

mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, 07.04.92:

>space.  Instead of 25 lines (24 with a status bar) you would have 23
>lines and be forced to put the status bar at the top of the screen.

Use the right GDOS fonts!

Regards,
 Patrick
From: reeuwijk@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl (C. van Reeuwijk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Arabesque
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:08:37 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

In <1992Apr10.111523.18281@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:

>I [saw] someone mentioned Arabesque. As far as drawing packages go (i.e not
>painting ones) has anybody had any experiences with it? I am particularly
>looking for something that can draw arrows on the ends of arbitrary curves.

I have 'Arabesque professional'. It has a vector graphics part and a
bitmap graphics part. The 'professional' in the name indicates that it
supports splines and has a few other improvements over the original
program. It does support arrows on line ends, although I am not entirely 
sure this is also true for splines.

The program does have some disadvantages, though:
- input and editing of splines is clumsy (strange commands, double
  clicking necessary, etc).
- It may crash on more obscure constructs (bitmap graphics in
  vector drawings).
- Clicking on an object point may mean movement of that point, or
  movement of the entire object. This is not done properly and
  can get very annoying.
- Minor bug: before printing, you can position the output box on
  the page, but after that it is ignored.

All in all, I am not entirely satisfied with the program. You
may want to look at alternatives like Becker CAD (I haveits predecessor,
Leonardo, and it had an enormous amount of bugs, but perhaps this one
is better), or one of the MegaPaint versions. As far as I know,
both have splines. 

I suggest that if at all possible, you try the program yourself, as
opposed to let someone demonstrate it, before you buy.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
C. van Reeuwijk                  e-mail: reeuwijk@et.tudelft.nl
Delft University of Technology   Phone: +15-781429
Dep. of Electronic Engineering   Telefax: +15-785922
Mekelweg 4
2628 CD  Delft, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: schwager@arctecserv-2.informatik.uni-kl.de (Johannes Schwagereit)
Subject: Re: Word Processors
Reply-To: schwager@arctecserv-2.informatik.uni-kl.de (Johannes Schwagereit)
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:18:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.085854.6299@actrix.gen.nz>, Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> In <12159@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> twright@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Tom Wright) writes:
> > 
> > I've been looking for a decent word processor for my ST.  Right now I'm still
> > using (gasp!) ST-Writer and it's okay, but I'd like to get something better.  
> > I'm a real fan of Microsoft Word for the Mac, so something similar would be 
> > nice.
> > Features I would want are:  automatic footnoting, style sheets or equivalent,
> > ability to import graphics and flow text, variety of font sizes and styles,
> > and Postscript-to-disk output.
> > Note that I DON'T want a page-layout program, just a word processor.  I read
> > a review of 1st Word Plus some time back and it seemed to have most of these
> > features.  Can anyone comment?  Plug your favorite program, here's your chance.
> > 
> 
> Well it looks like you had better start writing one, this is one
> Platform that the Atari lacks...

This is definitely not true!
I don't know the international (english-speaking) market, but here (in Germany)
there are at least four or five excellent programs available:

SCRIPT
SIGNUM II
SIGNUM III
CyPress
That's Write

Each of these programs has the features you are asking for (exception:
That's Write is the only one with PS-Output), is better than 1st Word+,
has WYSIWYG, is fast and reliable, has nice outputs (on many printers),
and is still supported.

(I'm using SCRIPT)

Tschuess,
   Johannes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: davidm@NeoSoft.com (David Martin)
Subject: Apple Mac ROMS
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:29:43 GMT
Keywords: roms,apple,mac,128k,emulation,atari,st,amiga

ALL:
I am selling a pair of 128k mac roms useful in both Amiga and
Atari hardware macintosh emulators. If you are interested
they are $150.00 plus shipping in the US. Phone me at 713-326-3877
and leave a voice message if you are interesed.
David

-- 
 
David W. Martin c/o The OpCode Factory tm League City, Texas, USA
Commodore might make the Amiga, but the Amiga makes it possible!
PORTAL: DAVIDM CIS: 72510,3232 UUCP: davidm@sugar.neosoft.com
From: micro@imada.ou.dk (Klaus Pedersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Crack Art: ENGLISH! manual
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:35:59 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark

cse0507@desire.wright.edu writes:
>   Finally, a little off the SUBJECT:  Who know of a good PD multi-window
>editor?  Should be a GEM program, able to take names from argv[], but still
>be a GEM text editor.  EMAIL names, and/or FTP locations.

7UP seems to be a very good and clean GEM editor, it even support monospaced FSM
fonts ;-)

'archie -s 7UP' gave the following:

|Host athene.uni-paderborn.de
|
|    Location: /pcsoft/atari/tools/edit
|           FILE -rw-r-----     126483  Oct  9 09:30  7up201.lzh
|           FILE -rw-r--r--     125185  Oct 27 21:36  7up207.lzh


-Klaus
From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Yikes!
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:24:26 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands

>>>>> boyd@phi.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (MB) writes:


MB> If you have a hard disk, gcc is the way to go.  If you don't, I understand 
                           ^ AND at least 2 MB RAM. 
You can't do very much with gcc in 1MB.
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
From: doucet@ripolin.laas.fr (Jean-Etienne Doucet,149,6323)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: File number limit ?
Date: 2 Apr 92 13:49:08 GMT
Reply-To: doucet@ripolin.laas.fr
Organization: LAAS-CNRS, Toulouse (France)


Yesterday, when grouping fonts collections on one floppy,
the copy stopped with the message  "invalid copy operation".
When looking at what have been copied on the floppy, I noticed
it contained 128 files, and had much free space left.
This is a too familiar number to not remark it.

So, the question is:
  - is 128 a limit for the number of files that can fit on a floppy ?
  - or is this a limit for just one directory ?
  - or have I problems with my machine ?
  
TOS version is 1.62, comp is a 520STE.

Thanks for every information.

_____________________________________________________ 
 
   \_  \_\_\_  \_\_            Jean-Etienne DOUCET
    \_  \_      \_  \_                   LAAS-CNRS
     \_  \_\_    \_  \_           Toulouse, FRANCE
      \_  \_      \_  \_  
   \_\_    \_\_\_  \_\_        doucet@laas.laas.fr
_____________________________________________________
From: azog@thoth.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Yikes!
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:31:13 GMT
Organization: Cranial Construction Corp

boyd@phi.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes:

>I thought that all versions of Flash could do vt100 (try <alt>-m, and select
>ansi), but I jumped on the wagon at version 1.5.  There do exist patches
>to bring older versions of Flash up to 1.6 on atari.archive.umich.edu.  You 
>should get a copy of Uniterm, considered widely to be the best terminal 
>program for the ST (and it's free, no less).  It is also available from 
>the above mentioned site.

I use UniTerm (2somethingE), due to the fact when logging into my VAX,
doing a $ SET TERM/INQ and then a $ SHOW TERM, it is indeed a VT220!
(execpt for the fact that I have to use the delete key). Ive never used
Flash, is it true VT1xx-2xx also? This is very important to a person 
who spends 90% of his time logged into VMS...

>             Mickey R. Boyd          |  "Come to your senses professor  
>          FSU Computer Science       |     Fernberg.  You did not transcend 
>        Technical Support Group      |     the time-space continuum.  You  
>       email:  boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu    |     got drunk in a topless bar."
>    ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
-- 
Billy D'Augustine                | "Wish I had some goddamned milk!
...rutgers!bobsbox!thoth!azog    | "Cheerieos just aint the same!"
azog@thoth.rent.com              | - Stormtroopers of Death (SOD)
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: mega ste price
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:57:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: wet.3804
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <8duTny200VICI3HX1V@andrew.cmu.edu> mc4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Choi) writes:
>Actually, the GEM interface, as implemented by a lot of developers, is
>far from standard. Look at LDW and tell me where the Quit option is.
>This is a shame, and the perpetraotrs should be shot:)

I know what you mean, but LDW Power is a poor example.  LDW Power tries to 
emulate the Lotus 123 menus, not conform to what standards GEM has now.

It seems, on the same note, that Atari is now only starting to enforce 
standards.  Clipboard implementation, Control Panel guidelines; there was
some discussion a while ago on GEnie about ALT-X,C,V versus CTRL.  Apparently,
the programmers at Atari wanted CTRL -- everyone else wanted ALT.  I don't
know what the result is.

-- 
   |||    Ed Krimen
   |||    ekrimen@wet.UUCP or hoptoad!wet!ekrimen
  / | \   E.KRIMEN (GEnie)
From: gjh@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Graham Higgins)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:36:05 GMT
Subject: Re: GCC 2.0 or higher for Atari ST
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.