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From: ron@wayden.b11.ingr.com (Ron Wayden)
Subject: Landscaping recommendations
Reply-To: ron@wayden.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:40:52 GMT

Thinking of getting some landscaping done and wondered if anyone had
experience with any of the local landscaping companies that they would
recommend (or suggest to avoid).

Thanks,
Ron
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From: puttk@b11.b11.ingr.com (Ken Putt)
Subject: Car Shoppers Beware!
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:22:40 GMT


My  wife and I had an interesting day of car shopping today,

Think twice before "You come and see us!" If you are looking for a
salesman who can honestly work with you, this is not the place to go.The
salesman we spoke to at Performance Toyota wasn't "allowed" to "quote"
any prices on anything.  He said he didn't know and couldn't quote the
pricing on any option's, said that he could find out for us only after
we told him that we would require that information but then made no
effort to follow through.  It seems that the salesman there are not
allowed to negotiate terms of pricing.The managers even took calculators
away from salesmen to aid in that effort.  When asked to see the invoice
on the car we chose the salesman actually laughed at us and said that
his boss would not allow it and that we were the first to ever ask for
it.Finaly the manager came down to speak to us and said that he didn't
think 800.00 over the invoice was unfair to either himself or to us and
quoted a figure to us but still the invoice was never presented. 


A note for the ladies: During the several hours that we were there the
salesman never acknowledged my wifes presence or significance in the
negotiations. During all the "Let me check with my manager" phone calls
the salesman only mentioned he had Mr. Putt in front of him looking at
buying a car and in fact never asked my wifes name. Over the several
hours that we were there my wife asked numerous questions that the
salesman would only reply to when re-asked by myself. 

Needless to say we tired of the whole routine they have	and decided to
seek a car elsewhere. I would appreciate any reccomdation of good
service from other surronding Toyota dealerships in my quest for truth
and justice for all.      

Ken

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From: mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com ( Phil Mueller )
Subject: Re: Disney Tickets
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:14:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.151850.8191@infonode.ingr.com> wilson@infonode.ingr.com (Barry Wilson) writes:
>In article <6847.2B5CD62A@umagic.FIDONET.ORG> Jim.McCullars@f1.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim McCullars) writes:
>>In a message of <Jan 19 11:12>, Barry Wilson (1:373/12) writes: 
>>
>> BW>I am planning on taking the family down to Disney next weekend.
>> BW>Does anyone have any leftover days on multiple day passes that 
>> BW>they would like to salvage for some extra lunch cash ???  Let me know.
>>
>>   No, but I have a couple of extra Sugar Bowl tickets if you're interested.
>>
>>Jim
>> 
>Actually, I would like those tickets.  I would like to make a framed
>picture of a collection of Sugar Bowl junk for the office wall.  Send
>them to me - or are they still $200.  Scalper.
>

If you can find a pair that weren't used.  
Did you go to the game?
Thought not.


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From: mike@b30.ingr.com (Mike Mathis)
Subject: Re: Car Shoppers Beware!
Organization: Intergraph Mechanical
	<1993Jan27.153717.24256@b30.b30.ingr.com>
Distribution: hsv
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:36:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.153717.24256@b30.b30.ingr.com> crack@fermat.b17a.ingr.com (H. Bret Young) writes:

>   I think I need to be educated about some things. How do I know for
>   sure that the invoice I'm shown is 100% legit? I mean, I wouldn't
>   know what to look for or verify. What information is on the invoice?
>   Is there anything I can read to further educate myself on the traps
>   and pitfalls of car buying? There seems to be a lot to know in order
>   to not get taken.

I believed it because the costs were the same as those published in the
Consumer's Guide New Car Price Book, as well as several other
publications.  Check in any bookstore.  Even if there has been a factory
price increase since the book was published, this gives you a better
place to start negotiating than the window sticker.

I also read a book written by a former car salesman.  I think it was
"How to Buy a Car" or something like that, by, uh, James Robinson?  It
was informative.  It warned not to be convinced by invoices alone -
unscrupulous dealers (oxymoron?) can fake them.  Anyone with a laser
printer could fake the invoice I saw, but the independent prices were
what I was working from anyway.

My negotiating technique in this case was simple - take dealer cost, add
a fair (IMHO) profit, tell the dealer how I arrived at the figure, and
offer to buy.  If they don't take it, walk away.

Of course, I've only bought 2 new cars in my life, so what do I know?

--
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Intergraph Mechanical		(205)730-3291 Office
Mailstop GD3001			(205)730-3453 FAX
Huntsville, AL 35894-0001	mrmathis@mathis.b30.ingr.com
From: Matt.Midboe@f20.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Midboe)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: virus chat
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 14:24:00 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/20 - The Post Offis, Huntsville AL

KF>Drop by hsv.tech or H_TECH and put in your two cents about virus issues.
KF>I'm collecting some public opinion on the topic.

        Is hsv.tech a usenet newsgroup that I can pick up. I certainly
hope so, viruses are something that I am avidly interested in. Is their
any virus source code, I have around 350-400 viruses for MS-DOS. Well I
vanish onto internet and look for it there.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Black holes are what happens when God divides by zero.



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From: dcwalter@dcw.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Christian Walters)
Subject: Re: tire/brake recommendations
Reply-To: dcwalter@dcw.b23b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Electronics
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:12:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.153557.5014@b30.b30.ingr.com>, cherokee@gators.b30.ingr.com (Lori Ludick) writes:
|> does any one have a recommendation or criticism of places to have brakes and
|> balancing done?
|> 

I've had good experiences both with Montgomery Ward's at Pkwy City Mall,
and with the Kelley Tires place just south of the Weatherly Road/Bailey
Cove intersection in south Huntsville.  (If you're looking at a place
in Madison, then Kelley may be a bit out of the way.)

Can't say for sure, but I've been told that if you want to spend a lot
of money, pop into a Firestone place.

My roommate's father owns the B&G Goodyear place in the Kroger parking
lot on South Parkway.  Never been there, but I should at least put in a
plug for 'em :)

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From: jeff@frodo.b30.ingr.com (Jeffrey Adam Johnson)
Subject: Yesterday's Computers in Madison
Organization: myself
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:10:19 GMT

    Has anyone had any experience dealing with Yesterday's Computers
on Hwy 72 in Madison ?

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Jeffrey Adam Johnson              Internet:  jeff@frodo.b30.ingr.com
("I speak only for myself.")          UUCP:  uunet!ingr!b30!frodo!jeff
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"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably
by the Prohibition law.  For nothing is more destructive of respect
for the government and the law of the land than passing laws
which cannot be enforced.  It is an open secret that the dangerous 
increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
 - Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921
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From: alfa@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Laura Walker)
Subject: Re: Snowy Channel 2?
Keywords: cable, snow
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: hsv
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:01:39 GMT

Channel 2 is snowy on my television as well.  I've called to complain,
so far to no avail.  Perhaps we could come up with a forceful plan to
get our message across?? (We all call at the same time -- something like
that.)

Has anyone out there had problems with the sound on Channel 8?  Most
of the time, it's as if the sound is coming out of a cave. . . particularly
during sports events when the crowd is loud.


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From: puttk@b11.b11.ingr.com (Ken Putt)
Subject: Caveat Emptor
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:38:12 GMT

Regarding my bad experience at Performance, I should add to the
note that the salesman was not allowed to have a calculator the fact
that they performed all their financial calculations fast and loose off
the tops of their heads without getting trivial details like the pay-off
on my trade. They "estimated" the pay-off of my lease and worked all
their figures around that. We tried to get them to pick up the phone and
call the local dealer we had leased from for an exact payoff, but they
insisted they knew "The Formula" and came up with a figure. Then they
badmouthed the value of my trade and tried to sell me on an exorbitant
down payment and monthly payments to "get me out of it". (What pals!)

Oh by the way, I called this morning and got the REAL payoff figure...it
was about $3000.00 less than they "calculated". 

I hear of others who have fared well at this dealer. Maybe it has a lot
to do with the day of the week, the salesman you get, the manager on
duty, the phase of the moon,...who knows?

Ken

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Ken

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From: cherokee@gators.b30.ingr.com (Lori Ludick)
Subject: brakes done
Reply-To: cherokee@gators.b30.ingr.com.
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:52:17 GMT

Thanks for the input from everyone, both on the net and through mail.
I went to NTW in Madison and I received excellent service. The people
I talked with were very friendly and didn't mind me watching their work and
asking questions. It turned out the squeeking noise I heards was the
breaks going bad, when the disc breaks wear down to a certain point they
give off an annoying noise, and they were both worn very far down.
They pointed out that I needed new tires but never tried to push them on me.
Labor was very cheap  about $14 but parts were high $70 for each disc.
My rear breaks needed adjusting and they did that in with the above charges.

So far I have no complaints, I would recommend them to others.

Lori

Newsgroups: ingr.general,hsv.general
From: bmr@gonzo.b15.ingr.com (Bruce Reagan)
Subject: How long to Starkville?
Reply-To: reagan@fedsrus.b15.ingr.com
Organization: unknown
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:13:07 GMT

	Could someone give me a good idea of how long it takes to get from
Huntsville to Starkville, MS?  I know about how far it is, but since it's not
interstate, I don't know what to expect time-wise.  Any hints about routes would
be appreciated as well.  Thanks.

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From: cherokee@gators.b30.ingr.com (Lori Ludick)
Subject: tire/brake recommendations
Reply-To: cherokee@gators.b30.ingr.com.
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:35:57 GMT

does any one have a recommendation or criticism of places to have brakes and
balancing done?

I have one recommendation for ntw in madison...any comments?


Lori
Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: fordke@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Ford)
Subject: Re: virus chat
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:22:12 GMT

>        Is hsv.tech a usenet newsgroup that I can pick up. I certainly

It is also a local Fidonet echo.  Jim doesn't pick it up from me any
longer due to lack of interest.  If you want it, let him know or
mention it in the sysop echo so it can be discussed.  Anyway, you
can read it on Micro Magic 830-2362.
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From: Timothy.Tate@p0.f8.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Timothy Tate)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: The New ZYP?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:32:17 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/8.0 - The Inferno, Huntsville AL

Well, Then don't listen to The Zit. Turn to 105.7 WKDF for your real
Rock&Roll music...

             105.7 WKDF with Ian Case and The Duke in the morning...

                                      -Tim Tate
                                   Co-SysOp of Timelords BBS
                                      and
                              A Member of the  City Council of SAGA Keep


*FSED91j*

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From: gt8741b@prism.gatech.EDU (Chris Adams)
Subject: Re: Snowy Channel 2?
Organization: GTMB: The $1.98 Noise of the Southland
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:55:08 GMT
X-Posted-From: sundial.gatech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <6878.2B6045DD@umagic.FIDONET.ORG> John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer) writes:
>>Is anyone getting a nice sharp picture?
> 
>I know of no one who has a good picture of WZDX, from cable Alabama. 

Gee, that's funny.  I am at school right now, so I haven't looked in the last
couple of weeks, but when I am home, WZDX comes in fine on Cable Alabama.  What
part of Huntsville are you in?  I live down south, not to far from Mountain Gap
school.
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From: John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Snowy Channel 2?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 06:12:51 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

>Is anyone getting a nice sharp picture?
 
 
I know of no one who has a good picture of WZDX, from cable Alabama. 
My experience with them has been that they refuse to respond to customer 
complaints. Altough I only called and complained twice, both times 
they the receptionist (hmm I wonder what kind of technical 
background she has<grin>)said it wasn't their problem, even when 
it obviously was.
Although if enough people complain, instead of only one or two, they 
might fix it. So how about it, everyone on Cable Alabama call in and 
complain about WZDX picture quality. 



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From: ellen@wiley.b11.ingr.com (Ellen Wilkin)
Subject: Possible  Tech Writing Job
Summary: Writer with background in remote sensing, GIS-mapping, or geography wan
Keywords: job technical writing computers image processing
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:05:51 GMT

Imaging Systems Technical Communications Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, is
always looking for experienced technical writers with backgrounds in
remote sensing, GIS-mapping, or geography.

Please contact:

Jim Taniyama
Human Resources
Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, Al  35807
(205)730-7875
Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: ron@wayden.Berkeley.EDU (Ron Wayden)
Subject: Re: New Taxes (suprise, suprise)
Reply-To: wayden@b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp.
Distribution: hsv
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:52:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.133218.29755@b11.b11.ingr.com>, lehughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes) writes:
|> It appears that Clinton's new cabinet has disavowed any knowledge of his

	.....whining deleted (nothing here I disagree with)

|> return for the LAST big tax hike (i.e. none at all). Business as usual.

Now don't tell us that any of Slick Willy's waffling and broken promises
come as a suprise????  Not to worry.  In 4 years we can get someone new
feed us lies and take our money.

|> Furthermore, there is lots of talk that they will crank up the magic INFLATION
|> monster used so effectively by Carter (he is responsible for about half the
|> total devaluation of our currency in the last two decades) to pay off (well,
|> to APPEAR to pay off) the deficit. 

Now let's be fair.  Carter cannot be held personally responsible for the
inflation during his term.  He can take some of the blame (just like Reagan and Bush deserve SOME for their 12 years) but Congress is the real monster here. IMHO
We have got to stop pointing our finger straight at the president
any time something in this country goes wrong.  The president has far less
control over the economy than we give him credit for.....unless of course
congress gives him everything he asks for.  Then you're in for some rough times.

|> I've had it with these jokers. I'm going to take MY national defense and
|> judicial business to their competitor. Oh damn, that's right - they HAVE
|> no competitors. *Sigh*.

Oh contrare!!  It's not a matter of competition.  Perhaps the competition
(Canada, Mexico etc.) are not up to your standards.  Or maybe it's just not
worth the trouble to renounce your U.S. citizenship and settle down somewhere
else.  It's not that there are not alternatives, it's that ALL of them are
worse than what we've got here and now.  ( of course, I'll bet Slick Willy can do 
a lot of damage in 4 years..... ).

|> Petition to recall/impeach ALL elected federal officials! Leave no survivors.
Here here!!.....Term Limits! Term Limits! Term Limits! Term Limits ....


Ron
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From: bond@a102n.b24a.ingr.com (Nelson K. Bond)
Subject: WHERE to buy a Nissan? 
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:34:05 GMT

For anyone who is considering buying a Nissan product, I recommend
driving to Albertville to Moultrie Nissan.  Among the reasons:

1) Only ONE sticker, no dealer-added second sticker
2) 2.5 percent sales tax
3) they WILL show you the invoice and work up from that price

They beat the Decatur dealership by a thousand dollars on our new car
(an Altima), and were much more cordial to boot.  After reading things
about Regal Nissan (negative things that is), we did not even go
there. At Decatur, they would not show the invoice, and they claimed they
had 500 more in the car than the Consumer Reports numbers.

Anyway, just thought I would post a positive experience on buying a
car locally.

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From: Ed.Peddycoart@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Peddycoart)
Newsgroups: hsv.jobs
Subject: Optical Engineer Seeks Position
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 19:15:00 CST
Organization: Micro Magic

I am currently seeking employment in the Huntsville, AL area.  Below 
Is a BRIEF description of my abilities and experience.  Although I 
am seeking employment in the Huntsville area I would consider relocating. 
If anyone has any information which they think might be of use to 
be please leave a message for me here.
 
OPTICAL ENGINEER.  B.S. Optical Sciences, Magna Cum Laude, 1989, The 
University of Alabama-Huntsville.  Minor in Mathematics.  3 + years 
experience in prototype development.  Strongly hardware oriented byut 
very capable in analysis.  Experience includes UV/VIS/IR Polarimetry, 
UV Polarized reflectance measurements, and Optical System Analysis. 
 Also experience in use of CODE V optical design and analysis software 

and LOWTRAN Code.  Very strong computer skills.  Experienced in use 
of VAX, Convex, MS-DOS, Macintosh, Silicon Graphics, and Sun computer 
systems.  Experienced in C, Pascal, and FORTRAN programming lanuages. 
 Currently learning ADA.   Have held Secret/WNTEL/CNWDI clearances. 

Ed Peddycoart. 772-0546.
/s
 



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