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From: LYNN@MD-MKW.Prime.COM (Lynn Charnitz, 414-797-8512 Voicemail #3)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Full screen editor
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:43:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.9209302240.AA22344
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Greetings all,

I have a 50 Series customer who is looking for a full screen editor for
use under PRIMOS.  Their developers are using a variety of PCs running
PROCOMM VT100 emulation.  Keyboard styles vary.  They feel EMACS is a bit
too pricey.

Any recommendations for them?

Regards,

Lynn Charnitz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: leonard@aix3090b.uky.edu (Leonard Lauria)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Upgrade problems.
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:04:47 GMT

JCROSS_PUBMAIL@prime.mhsl.uab.edu writes:

>Thanks for the reply Leonard;

>I have only one LHC and its address is 56.  Yes I do have a
>GATEWAYS_56 file in my TCP/IP* directory.  Yes I did run the
>TCP/IPHTU.RUN program to re-write the config files.

>As I said, the PrimeService analyst couldn't find anything wrong
>with my setup, and the identical setup works just fine at revision
>2.3.xx.

>Prehaps a more concise questions are:

>1) Are there any changes to be made in the config files when
>   upgrading from TCP/IP Revision 2.3.xx to Revision 2.4.xx?

I don't remember anything special when I went from 2.3 to 2.4, but it
has been awhile.

>2) Does TCP/IP Revision 2.4.xx require:
>   a) any special revision of the LHC download files?

new DLL would have come with 2.4

>   b) any special revision of the network management server software, etc.?

new networm mgt software would have also come with 2.4

>   c) any special revision of the microcode?

no changes for us

>   d) any special revision of the LHC hardware?

no changes for us

>I appreciate your help Leonard.  If any of PrimeService's TCP/IP
>guru's wish to jump in and join this conversation, please do so!

If you want I can get revs of software, dll, and hardware and send them
to you.  Also, if you want my config files to compare with let me know.
I've not had problems with the network mgt stuff, so I am more inclined
to believe that it is a config problem.  

Leonard

>-Jesse-

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From: YODERS@prime.wittenberg.edu
Subject: re: Re: TCP/IP Upgrade problems.
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:43:48 GMT

Jesse,

There was some idiosyncracy with COMM_CONTROLLER back at Rev. 22.  If you
used the Primos version of it, things wouldn't work right.  What this meant
was that if you re-loaded Primos (or installed an 'R' release that re-loaded
COMM_CONROLLER), you had to lay the copy of COMM_CONTROLLER that came with
TCP/IP 2.3... on top of the Primos version.  This seems to have gone away
at Rev 23.2.  I am using the Primos version now and have not had any problem.

If this message is a little fuzzy, it's because this was a while ago and I
can't remember all of the specifics.  I reached a point where no matter what
I did to Primos, I always re-installed TCP/IP afterwards (I went through a
rash of 22.1.4 R releases and did this once every couple of weeks).

I don't know if this has anything to do with your problem or not.  It's just
a possibility.

Kevin Yoders
Wittenberg University

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: HENDER@morekypr
Subject: Parallel printer
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 20:11:44 GMT


. Hi
.
. As we are on the subject of printing maybe someone could help me with the
. following problem.
.
. Hardware :-
. P4150 with URC
. Fujitsu M3043D 1200lpm printer with dataproducts interface
. Black Box 'Serial-Parrallel converter for Dataproducts'
.
. I am trying to use this printer on a Unix box and was told that there wasn't
. a serial interface available for the printer. One of my suppliers got hold
. of the Black Box equipment and we tried connecting the printer through a
. serial port on the Prime through the BB to the printer. Kept getting a
. "NOCHNL" error.
.
. The problem I think is the fact that the Prime doesn't use the 8th data bit
. from the URC. But then how come it works with the URC? Up to now I cannot
. get any info on the Fujitsu Dataproducts interface.
.
. Please help - the Prime might be given the death sentence in a few months
. and I don't want to get rid of a very reliable (and expensive) printer.
.
. Regards
. --
.                 _________________________________________
.                |  Mark Stobbs    ccsmcs@cd4380.ufh.ac.za |
.                |          Computer Centre                |
.                |  University of Fort Hare, South Africa  |
.                |_________________________________________|
Mark,

An alternative solution (maybe) would be to get a Centronics parallel
interface card for your Unix box, then do the same for your printer (assuming
both have the capabilities for Centronics interface cards!!!)

If you do get the printer running using an serial line, don't be surprised if
the printer pauses a lot, waiting for input.  In order to make full use of
a 1200 lpm printer, you'll have to be running over 19200 baud (a lot over!!)

I tried several years ago using a p-s converter to connect a Printonix P600
printer to our Prime, and could never get it to work.  Could have been the
converter, though.  The person who bought it got it from a discount house for
$15-20 (or something like that).

Good Luck,
Drew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: AL@TURBO.Kean.EDU
Subject: News
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:34:12 GMT

Hello Everyone,

I shall shortly be leaving Kean Colleges employ.

Regards to all,

Al Costanzo
From: JCROSS_PUBMAIL@prime.mhsl.uab.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Still problems with TCP/IP Rev 2.4.
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:02:49 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Leonard,

    I accept.  Please send me revs of software, dll, and hardware.
And yes, please send me copies of your config files so I can compare
mine to them.

    Here is a complete list of all config files I have for TCP/IP
and/or any related product:

TCP/IP>HOSTS.TXT
TCP/IP*>THISHOST
TCP/IP*>RESOLV.CONF
MAILER*>DB>CONFIGURATION
NTS*>NTS.CONFIG

If there are any other configuration files that have to be in place, I don't
know them.  According to my manual that cam with TCP/IP Revision 2.3
these are the only necessary configuration files.  Is this correct?

Also, what is the latest release of the TCP/IP manual?

Should I have received an update and/or a new manual with TCP/IP
release 2.4?

Leonard, thanks much for your help, any help from anyone is greatly
appreciated.


-Jesse-
From: sys_admin@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au (Bob Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: (none)
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:32:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.9210060628.AA16987
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: University of Western Sydney,Nepean,New South Wales,Australia.


Good-bye, Al



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: a.0013@VCC3.VCC.BC.CA (Jim Chivas  Vancouver Community College)
Subject: re: Full screen editor
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:05:51 GMT

I would also concur
Jim

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From: Ted W. Flory <Ted@CESCC.Bridgewater.EDU>
Subject: re: Full screen editor
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:27:19 EDT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

We have been using the PMED full-screen editor for nearly 10 years.  PMED
is written and maintained by the University of Sheffield (UK).  If memory
serves me, it is marketed here in the US by OTG systems.  PMED is very
reasonably priced, is a compatible superset of Prime's ED with many nice
extensions including, of course, full screen capability, and is *very*
fast.  I recommend it highly.  

Ted Flory
Bridgewater College


BTW, I have no connection to the University of Sheffield or OTG Systems
other than being a satisfied PMED user.
From: gerry@well.sf.ca.us (Gerald Feeney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Re: WATCH command in Primos
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:56:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: well.199209302056.AA27415
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

I'm not sure what a WATCH group is, but I'd guess it may refer to having
defined a group of users who you want to be able to use WATCH, and then
placing the WATCH command under an ACL that only that particular group can
access.  That way, no one other than the members of that group can execute
the WATCH command.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: michelle@sunloop.Central.Sun.COM (Michelle Donat SE Chicago Loop )
Subject: the hammer falls
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:32:27 GMT

Well...
The hammer fell for PrimeService recently.  I'm not sure about the exact numbers nationwide, but the branch where I (formerly) worked, we lost 5 out of 16!

If you think that I'm bitter, and a little angry, well, I am.  Unfortunately, 
PrimeService does'nt realize that the people that they just laid off were the 
ones that cared, the ones who stayed with the company through hostile takeovers,
both given and received, white knight takeovers, and any number of previous 
RIF's.

Computervision (Prime)(whatever!) also fails to realize that the service part of
the business is the ONLY part of the business making any kind of $$, and without
P/S, Computervision would not exist at all. I have a pretty good idea of the 
attrition going on within my branch, and it certainly was not 1/3 the branch's 
total revenue (at least it wasnt before the layoff).

These layoffs, which include software support in Bedford, also put into question
the avowed new mission of P/S, which (was) going to support the 50 series the
way it always was, and add new business in the form of Sun, and Wellfleet, et
al.  How do the geniuses in Bedford think that they are going to be able to do
this, when the remaining CSE's arent really going to have enough time to 
properly service the remaining accounts that they have, in addition to the 
remaining accounts of the laid off CSE's?

If I were a Prime end user, I think that I would first, if the cse is one minute
over the 2 or 4 or whatever limit is on your contract, I would demand my rebate.
I would also move off the Prime platform as quick as I could.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: ccsmcs@cd4380.ufh.ac.za (Mark Stobbs)
Subject: Re: fuji printer
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 08:11:01 GMT

> 
> Mark,
> 
> According to the FUJITSU manual, the following interfaces are available
> for the 3280 printer
> 
> Dataproducts, Centronics, RS232-C, and other available options.  This is
> in the vendor manual we get when we start servicing a new piece of
> equipment.  The only thing that I can think of is to get hold of Fujitsu,
> and see if you can get the kit you want.  I have addresses for most areas,
> unfortunately the African continent is not one of them...
> 
> 
> John
> 
John

We have an M3043 printer. I'm pretty sure a serial interface is available
internationaly, but the local agents say there isn't one.

Thanks for your reply
-- 
                _________________________________________
               |  Mark Stobbs    ccsmcs@cd4380.ufh.ac.za |
               |          Computer Centre                |
               |  University of Fort Hare, South Africa  | 
               |_________________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: tabo@hitech.com (Tony Abo)
Subject: messing messages
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:49:27 GMT

Has anyone noticed that there has been no activity on this list
between 2 Oct and 4 Oct?  I know that a message I sent myself never
got posted.  It seems that messages sent in this period may have been
lost.  There's nothing in the info-prime.archive9210 within this time
period either.

Anyone who sent mail in this period may want to re-send it.

------------------------------------------------------------

Tony Abo
Hitech Systems, Inc.
1964 Westwood Blvd. # 435
Los Angeles, CA 90025

Internet: tabo@hitech.com
Voice:    (310) 475 3210
Fax:      (310) 474 0655

This is may clever little saying at the end of my mail messages
because everyone else seems to have one.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: SYS_ADMIN@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:11:01 GMT

         >>> Porting PRIMOS reports to UNIX print server - any ideas? <<<<
X-Mailer: Pr1me Mailer 2.00 (C) 1991, 1992 Michel Pollet & Jac Goudsmit
From:     Bob Thomas <sys_admin@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Organization: University of Western Sydney,Nepean,New South Wales,Australia.

         We have installed an AXIS AX-5 Print Server in one of our student
labs and have a request from the Academic Computing Liason Officer as to
whether PRIMOS reports can be directed to this server.

         He is currently FTPing reports there from PRIMOS to be printed,
but he would like some meaningful banner pages.

         UNIX machines are able to send reports to this server using LPTR.

         Does anyone have some clever procedure to redirect PRIMOS reports to
this type of print server?



____             ____                       Systems Administrator
 /__)  _   /_     /   /_   _   _ _   _   _  University of Western Sydney,
/__)  (_) /__)   /   /  ) (_) / ) ) (_( `-, Nepean, New South Wales, Australia.
------------------------------------------  Tel.: 047 360845 Fax: 047 360846
                                            E-mail: R.Thomas@uws.edu.au
From: YODERS@Prime.Wittenberg.EDU (Kevin Yoders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: CHANGE_PROJECT
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:23:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.9209302226.AA22172
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Hi all,

    Does anybody know exactly what happens when you issue a
CHANGE_PROJECT?  I would like to be able to issue it from inside
INFORMATION as a way to let people switch from one project to
another without logging out/in.  Each INFORMATION account that
servers as an IAP for our projects has a LOGIN.CPL that, among other
things, starts up INFORMATION.  Once the user is in, many many
things end up stored in COMMON variables, especially open files that
may use the same common variable, but have entirely different paths.

    Does issuing a CHANGE_PROJECT inside INFORMATION clean
everything up like a LOGOUT does?  Will I be compromising the
integrity of INFORMATION's lock tables, etc.?  Are files closed
properly?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Thanks

Kevin Yoders
Wittenberg University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: YODERS@Prime.Wittenberg.EDU (Kevin Yoders)
Subject: Re: WATCH command in Primos
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:04:44 GMT

Ash,

    You need to look in the Rev. 23.1 Software Release Document
(DOC10001-8PA).  The "watch group" is a Primos ACL named ".WATCH".
Under certain (controllable) circumstances, users that belong to this
group can watch other users.  The system administrator can also
watch, even without this ACL.

Kevin Yoders
Wittenberg University


--- Your original message :

Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 15:32:40 CDT
From: Ash H. Pirwani <apirwani@csc.bcm.tmc.edu>
To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Subject: Re: WATCH command in Primos
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

> Yes, there is a way if you are logged in as the system administrator and
> are in the watch group. The user being watched doesn't know he/she is
> being watched. If a regular user, other than the sys admin, is a member of
> the watch group and tries to watch a user, a message is sent to the
> terminal/user being watched that he/she is being watched.

Excuse me for my inexperience with Primos as I mostly work at the Information Level, but what is a WATCH group?  Our system admisitrator has gone throuth the manuals and did not find any thing that would explain enough about the WATCH command.

Thanks.

Ash.

P.S.  I am at Primos 23.1.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: Eric@CCCC.CC.Colorado.Edu (Eric Ross)
Subject: An Interesting Piece of Mail
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: Colorado College, Colorado Springs Colorado
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:27:11 GMT

I just received an interesting piece of mail from PrimeService.  A nice,
semi-glossy summary of services, etc.  I was delighted to see that
"TCP/IP Revision 3 is targeted for Q4/92 and on schedule."  and
"X WINDOWS support on PRIMOS is currently targeted for Q4/92."  Kind of
encouraging.

On the other hand, I'm looking for encouraging signs.  I just bought 100
shares of ComputerVision (at 6 1/8).  Not a huge investment, but I sure
hope it works out....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Ross  (eric@cccc.cc.colorado.edu)        Colorado College
Administrative Computing                      14 E. Cache la Poudre
(719) 389-6452                                Colorado Springs, CO  80903
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: apirwani@csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Ash H. Pirwani)
Subject: Re: WATCH command in Primos
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:32:40 GMT

> Yes, there is a way if you are logged in as the system administrator and
> are in the watch group. The user being watched doesn't know he/she is
> being watched. If a regular user, other than the sys admin, is a member of
> the watch group and tries to watch a user, a message is sent to the
> terminal/user being watched that he/she is being watched.

Excuse me for my inexperience with Primos as I mostly work at the Information Level, but what is a WATCH group?  Our system admisitrator has gone throuth the manuals and did not find any thing that would explain enough about the WATCH command.

Thanks.

Ash.

P.S.  I am at Primos 23.1.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gorton@tiger1.prime.com (Scott Gorton)
Subject: Re: An Interesting Piece of Mail
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:03:05 GMT

In article <1as6jrINN3j7@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>, mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) writes:
> :"TCP/IP Revision 3 is targeted for Q4/92 and on schedule."  and
> :"X WINDOWS support on PRIMOS is currently targeted for Q4/92."  Kind of
> :encouraging.
> 
> Out of a sense of morbid curiosity, what revision of X11 is to be
> supported, and does Motif support come along with this?
> 

We're working on X11R5.  Currently, there are no plans for Motif but that may change in the future!  ;^)

Scott Gorton     <gorton@s35.prime.com>
Senior Software Engineer, Prime Service    

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: R.KITTREDGE@MD-B.Prime.COM (Roland Kittredge - Marketing 508-620-2800 x4666)
Subject: Prime/Primos Analysts & Coders Wanted
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:13:20 GMT

          Boston Sunday Globe, September 28, 1992

                         PRIME/PRIMOS

Aspen Systems Corporation is a large national and international
organization rapidly expanding in the information systems consulting
arena. Immediate openings exist for Prime/Primos analysts and coders
with knowledge of CPL, Midas and COBOL. Functional design experience is
also required.
                  MAKE A GREAT CAREER MOVE!!!
Send your resume to the attention of ISS at:
ASPEN SYSTEMS
962 Wayne Avenue
Silver Springs, MD 20910
(301)585-8181
FAX: (301)495-8655

Equal Opportunity Employer/Affirmative Action


Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: leonard@aix3090b.uky.edu (Leonard Lauria)
Subject: Re: (none)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:40:17 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime

In comp.sys.prime you write:

>         >>> Porting PRIMOS reports to UNIX print server - any ideas? <<<<
>X-Mailer: Pr1me Mailer 2.00 (C) 1991, 1992 Michel Pollet & Jac Goudsmit
>From:     Bob Thomas <sys_admin@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au>
>Organization: University of Western Sydney,Nepean,New South Wales,Australia.

>         We have installed an AXIS AX-5 Print Server in one of our student
>labs and have a request from the Academic Computing Liason Officer as to
>whether PRIMOS reports can be directed to this server.

>         He is currently FTPing reports there from PRIMOS to be printed,
>but he would like some meaningful banner pages.

>         UNIX machines are able to send reports to this server using LPTR.

>         Does anyone have some clever procedure to redirect PRIMOS reports to
>this type of print server?



>____             ____                       Systems Administrator
> /__)  _   /_     /   /_   _   _ _   _   _  University of Western Sydney,
>/__)  (_) /__)   /   /  ) (_) / ) ) (_( `-, Nepean, New South Wales, Australia.
>------------------------------------------  Tel.: 047 360845 Fax: 047 360846
>                                            E-mail: R.Thomas@uws.edu.au

If you have tcp/ip on the Prime machine, and PRIMOS 23.2 or later, then
you can set up a spooler on the Prime to print to a printer attached to 
a terminal server.  So if you can get an IP number and port number for 
this printer server you should be able to make it work.

Leonard
 

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From: burhans@teal.csn.org (Jackie Burhans)
Subject: Unidata Day
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:21:32 GMT

Hope this is ok...

Coming to Denver in October? Don't miss Unidata Day. Unidata is sponsoring
a day of information and education. The date is Wednesday, October 21
from 8am to 6pm. Its free and lunch is included! This informative day-long
seminar will be held at the Embassy Suites Hotel, adjoining Unidata
corporate headquarters located in downtown Denver, only 20 minutes
from the Denver Technological Center.

To register, so we know how many people to expect, call Laura Stern by
October 12 at (303)294-0800.

The presentations will include:

TRACK ONE - INTEROPERABILITY AND THE NEW COMPUTER PARADIGM

Enterprise Application Architecture "Find out how to 'rightsize' your
entire business enterprise." 

Open File System: "UniData's advanced file interfaces allow you to
import and export files from different machines, over networks, and
between other databases"

Decision Support/EIS Systems "Disover how more than 100 MS Windows tools
can access UniData files." "Learn the power of networked decision support
solutions to bring executive management to the "buy" decision."

TRACK TWO -  UNIDATA CORE PRODUCTS AND IMPROVED PERFORMANCE

Dynamic Files/Indexed Files "Consider how little maintenance UniData's
dynamic files need (and they are fast!)"

Enhanced Debugger "Our new debugger was worth the wait...find out why."

UniData Systmes Administration Manager (USAM) "Find out why system
administration is a breeze with mainframe-grade utilities. See why
thousands of UNIX system administrators have chosen these tools."

Conversion Tools... "See working proof that conversions aren't difficult."

Benchmarking and Performance Monitoring "Tools for tracking UniData &
UNIX performance gains."
-------

Anyway that's what the flyer sez...see ya!

Jackie Burhans
Technical Trainer




-- 
Jackie Burhans
Technical Trainer

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: citmlr@hanley.ccit.arizona.edu (Mike Randle)
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:00:10 GMT

HELP



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