HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dwu@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Daniel Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.text.desktop
Subject: Which publishing tool uses Chinese characters?
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:45:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Sep10.174552.17816
Followup-To: comp.text.desktop
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


I need a desktop publishing tool to put together a newsletter 
that includes Chinese (Hanzi) characters. Can someone please tell me
which of the popular packages (Ventura Pagemaker, Framemaker, Ami Pro, ...)
for the PC is the best choice for this.  If none of them have this
capability, can you please recommend a package.  The newsletter will be
written in both English and Mandarin.

Thank you,

Daniel
dwu@eesof.com
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: palmerp@math.orst.edu (Paul A Palmer)
Subject: Re: Touch typing
Reply-To: palmerp@math.orst.edu
Organization: Dept. of Math, Oregon State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:44:28 GMT

In article <lan57pINNqe7@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:

   dma@cs.bham.ac.uk (Denis Martin Anthony) writes:

   >Is there a touch typing course for Unix, along the lines of Mavis
   >Beacon?

   Dunno what is Mavis Beacon, but I know of two programs which are
   available: they are named "letters" and "ttype".  Letters is a game
   where words (/usr/words/dict) fall down the screen.

   Archie for 'em.

"letters" was posted to alt.sources a few months ago, so should be in the
archives for that group.

There is another tutorial program called "typist".  Get the file
"typist.tar.Z" on cs.rochester.edu in /pub.

--
Paul Palmer
Department of Mathematics     	E-mail: palmerp@math.orst.edu
Kidder Hall 368
Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon 97331-4605
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: loft@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: getting dvi2lj w/o ftp.
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:41:56 GMT

Where can I get the dvi2lj driver for groff 1.05?  The FAQ seems to say
it is in the gnu archives, but unfortunately I no longer have ftp acess
at my (former) university.  Is there an archive-served site which carries
it?  Or is it (or the entire Psroff package) small enough to be e-mailed
feasibly?  
 
Please reply via e-mail if this is not of general interest.

Thank You
Bob
loft@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us

Newsgroups: comp.text
From: dma@cs.bham.ac.uk (Denis Martin Anthony)
Subject: Touch typing
Organization: School of Computer Science, Birmingham University. Great Britain
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:54:01 GMT

Is there a touch typing course for Unix, along the lines of Mavis
Beacon?


-- 
Denis
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Subject: HOW TO: Get special characters (german letters)
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:46:19 GMT

     Can anyone tell me how to get German characters 
(a, o, u with two dots above them)?  They are not in any fonts
that I could find.

Thanks
Mark
mrr1@ra.cs.msstate.edu


Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Node-locked licensing GOING AWAY?
Keywords: node-locked
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 20:09:18 GMT

An Interleaf employee asked me if there was still a need for node-locked
licenses, since network licensing can be configured to reserve a license
for a particular node.

Interleaf would like to do away with node-locked licenses, since it's just
one more thing to support.

I don't see any reason to keep node-locked licensing, but maybe some of
you do.  If you would not be able to solve your problems with network
licensing, now is your chance to be heard!

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: 6243590@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: HOW TO: Get special characters (german letters)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:13:28 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

>    Can anyone tell me how to get German characters
>(a, o, u with two dots above them)?  They are not in any fonts
>that I could find.

 To get the international character set (not foreign languages) your
system administrator must select the interenational character set from
the installation tapes when installing the software.  If your software
has been loaded without the international character set, your sys admin.
needs only to choose "add" feature instead of a full install to get just
these characters. Have your sys. administrator refer to the Install
book. If you have futher questions, please give me an email jiggle.

G/M Barbara
From: 6243590@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: default color
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:29:11 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: default color
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:35:58 GMT

>How can I make ileaf 5 come up to a default color sceme(ie. Canyon) when
>I call it up the next time. I saw nothing in "Interleaf 5 Defaults"
>
>Thanks, Wm
>
>--
>Bill Madden
>wpmadden@eos.ncsu.edu
>No icon tact

Bill --

It's really easy to add auto color. Place the UI Painter icon of your
choice in the profile drawer of your Custom cabinet. It will automatically
load when you bring up your desktop.

Interleaf documentation is a challenge (although I have to say it's much
better than most!) in that while all the information you need, or 98% of
it is in the books, the index has only about 25% of the needed entries.
Causes lots of "I can't find ANY info on this topic!" screams from most
users. I normally go back to the basic data and quickly skim through the
appropriate section. I find what I need about 80% of the time.

Hope this helps.

Gretchen's mom.
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Frame2Interleaf converter
From: rothe@teksun1.mdcbbs.com (Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr)
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:30:59 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA

In article <1992Sep8.211813.6763@draco.macsch.com>, todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:
|> 
|> You haven't used it extensively.
|> We have, and we've had lots of problems.
|> I hope you don't want to convert any *equations* :-(


	Does Anybody make a filter that converts equations???
	If so, I haven't heard of it.  I only hope that SGML will
	standardize some of the Publishing Babel.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Colorful leaves at best
Organization: AC Nielsen Co., Bannockburn IL
Distribution: us
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:57:08 GMT


To the leaf watchers out there, I've a few off-color fall-leaf questions:

(i)   Is Interleaf a public domain software?
(ii)  I have some questions about licensing. What's the number  
      to call? 
(iv)  Can I define my own fonts and include them in the Interleaf
      font table? So when I type k on the key-board, I see "&*$%"
      instead of the English alphabet "k."
(iii) Why is it called Interleaf? 



Many thanks and don't miss those early fall colors; please reply
by e-mail if you can.


Murthy
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: jfc@salmon.sea.macsch.com (Jack Castro)
Subject: A search for an Interleaf Instruction Manual
Originator: jfc@salmon.sea.macsch.com
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. (MSC) Seattle Technical Office
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:51:17 GMT


I recently received Interleaf on my Sun Sparcstation due to some sort of
network licensing agreement that my company has with Interleaf. Unfortunately,
the only documentation that I can get is the "Getting Started With
Interleaf 5" guide.  There is online documentation, but I have not explored 
this yet.

Does anyone know of a good Interleaf book that can be purchased at a bookstore?
I will not be a sophistcated user who publishes large documents. I will mostly
be using the software for presentation where I need to incorporate text with
graphics and equations. Any recommendations or book reviews will be appreciated.

-- 
 
Jack Castro                  E-MAIL: j_castro@macsch.com
(All opinions expressed are my own and not my employers.)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: upcoming releases
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 19:54:03 GMT

A thoughtful, attentive Interleaf employee just called me to follow up on
my not-so-recent posting which asked for the status of the OpenLook version
of ileaf.

There will be a patch tape for 5.3 coming out this month.  This has nothing
to do with the OpenLook version, but will include over 100 bug fixes.

The OpenLook version of Interleaf is now in Beta Test, at over 25 sites.
The deadline for comments was August 31.  The expected release date is
probably Late November.

It is unknown how the OpenLook release will affect the numbering schemes.

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN)
Subject: Help!!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Southern Connecticut State University - Computer Center
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:23:00 GMT

Does anyone know of anywhere I can get a filter from Interleaf 5.2 on a 
Sun Sparc2 so I may filter the files to an image I can view on my PC at
home? Thanks!~

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: pszemkow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Paul Szemkow)
Subject: Equations
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 05:55:43 EDT

Is there a easy way of producing and managing mathematical equations?  I 
looked through the manuals and could not find a good reference.  Where
should I look?

Thanks for your reply.


--
Paul J. Szemkow
College of Environmetal Science and Forestry
Mapping Sciences Lab
Syracuse, New York 13210-2778
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ishantha Lokuge)
Subject: How to open a ileaf5 file in tps (older version of interleaf)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:20:11 GMT

Organization: Brandeis University
Keywords: 




Hello!

I am trying to open a file that was created in ileaf5 under the older
version of interleaf (tps). It says that this version cannot be read.
Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Ishantha Lokuge
email: slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: 6243590@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: How to open a ileaf5 file in tps (older version of interleaf)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:06:56 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
<Iam trying to open a file that was created in ileaf5 under the older
<version of interleaf (tps). It says that this version cannot be read.

To open an Interleaf 5 doc. in an earlier version of the software you
must use the Interleaf 5 Save-As feature.

In your Interleaf 5 environment, on your document name menu (where
SAVE is located), slid off on the "miscellaneous" menu to the "convert"
submenu. Slid off on convert and you'll find the options to save as
release 4 ascii or release 3 ascii. You will be prompted for a new
document name, it doesn't overwrite your ileaf 5 doc.

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: bouillin@ntc.nokia.com (Claude Bouillin)
Subject: automatic ref to chapter #
Reply-To: bouillin@ntc.nokia.com
Organization: kpd
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:45:55 GMT

I'd like to create *fully* automatic references to chapters, along
with an automatic number in the following way:

	Figure 12-1: This is the first figure of chapter 12.

I can easilly create a simple autonumber with a stream in a
microdocument like:

	Figure 1: This is the first figure of the whole document.

But my problem is to automatically insert an automatic reference to an
other autonumber, like a chapter number.

Has anybody ideas on how possible it is in Interleaf 5?
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Claude Bouillin - (Internet: bouillin@ntc.nokia.com)      Phone 358-0-511 7736
         (X.400:   C=FI,A=Elisa,P=Nokia Telecom,S=Bouillin,Gi=Claude)
 Nokia Telecommunications, PO box 12, 02611 Espoo, Finland   Fax 358-0-511 7432
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: mjamesb@bnr.ca (M. James Bartley on bmerh468)
Subject: Re: automatic ref to chapter #
Followup-To: comp.text.interleaf
Reply-To: mjamesb@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:06:45 GMT

In comp.text.interleaf bouillin@ntc.nokia.com writes:

> I'd like to create *fully* automatic references to chapters, along
> with an automatic number in the following way:
> 
> 	Figure 12-1: This is the first figure of chapter 12.
> 
> I can easilly create a simple autonumber with a stream in a
> microdocument like:
> 
> 	Figure 1: This is the first figure of the whole document.
> 
> But my problem is to automatically insert an automatic reference to an
> other autonumber, like a chapter number.
> 
> Has anybody ideas on how possible it is in Interleaf 5?

You're headed in the right direction and you need to do two more
things:

 1 - Make the first level of your figure autonumber stream invisible
     and put these first level tokens into the prefix of the component
     that contains the first level tokens of the chapter autonumber
     stream.

 2 - Use (visible) second level tokens from the figure autonumber
     stream in the figure captions.

This means that every time your chapter number increases, the first
part of your figure number increases also (and also resets the second
part of the figure number to 1).

E.g.,  Ch 11                     Ch 12                   Ch 13
        Fig 11-1, Fig 11-2        Fig 12-1, Fig 12-2      ...

That's how I did it in TPS 4 (now I have to use FrameMaker - sigh).

P.S. - Just add another autonumber stream for tables (etc.).

-- 
M. James Bartley, TransportNode Documentation \ Internet: mjamesb@bnr.ca
Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Dept 1A12, MER 003 \ BNR ESN:     393-3556
P.O. Box 3511, Station C, Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 \ Phone: 613-763-3556
** Opinions expressed are mine, not BNR's. - MJB ** \ Fax: 613-763-5048
   "They're either going to fire her or arrest me." - Opus :)
From: arte@inmet.camb.inmet.com
Date: 10 Sep 1992 08:18 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: automatic ref to chapter #
Message-ID: <729400005@inmet>
Nf-ID: #R:<BOUILLIN:92:inmet:729400005:000:933
Nf-From: inmet.camb.inmet.com!arte    Sep 10 08:18:00 1992


You can always make the "chapter number" and "figure number" autonumbers the 
same type (a two-level autonumber). On the first page of the chapter, put a
level one autonumber in a title or something (i.e., Chapter 5 -- Systems 
Issues). Then make the figure number a level two reference and put it in a
one-line label under each figure (i.e., Figure 5-2 -- System Configuration).
The "figure number" autonumber will automatically pick up the chapter number 
from the level one autonumber in the beginning of the chapter.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                               			Arte Kenyon
                                                Intermetrics, Inc.
                                                Cambridge, MA
                                               	(arte@inmet.camb.inmet.com)

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: ryan@yoyodyne.WPI.EDU (Mr. Guy)
Subject: colors at startup
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:32:43 GMT

place the Canyon or other color scheme into the

	profile drawer, in the Custom cabinet, in the System5 cabinet

it should load up automatically.

the docs on this are a bit lacking..it is sort of buried within one of
release notes or new faetures docs or something.


-ryan

p.s. I am currently working on a project that might invovle
interleaf... any an all info on writing one's own filters or document
importing would be greatly appreciated
From: djg@genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Equations
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:31:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: GenRad, Inc.

In article <1992Sep4.055543.18493@newstand.syr.edu> pszemkow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Paul Szemkow) writes:
>Is there a easy way of producing and managing mathematical equations?  I 
>looked through the manuals and could not find a good reference.  Where
>should I look?
>
>Thanks for your reply.

Well, it depends on which version you have (tps or ileaf - that is, 4
or 5).

For 4, my Master Index says alot of infoprmation about Equations is in
Volume 3, around the 230 - 240 range.

For 5, the Master Index says Unit 10, which is called Equation Editor.

The on-line help is very useful. Look towards the bottom, sine the
hard-copy documentation is suppose to be the printing of the on-line
stuff, and Unit 10 is the last of it.

In a nutshell, to create an equation, create a frame. Open the frame
and select Create->Misac->equation. You should see E=mc2 show up.
Select it and select Edit->Content. You have a choice of Interaqctive
and batch mode. I use batch mode since I find it easier to create
levels and group terms. Interactive allows you to create levels and
groups with the menus and batch mode does it in a language similar to
eqn.

If you Edit->Props on the E=mc2 and then you enter Batch, you see "E =
m c sup 2"

There are a lot of function keywords. They are documented.

If you have any specific questions, let me know.

deb
(djg@genrad.com)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wpmadden@c00810-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu (WILLIAM PATRICK MADDEN)
Subject: default color
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:35:58 GMT

How can I make ileaf 5 come up to a default color sceme(ie. Canyon) when
I call it up the next time. I saw nothing in "Interleaf 5 Defaults"

Thanks, Wm

--
Bill Madden
wpmadden@eos.ncsu.edu
No icon tact
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Michael Wollborn)
Subject: Re: Equations
Reply-To: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:16:28 GMT

In article 18493@newstand.syr.edu, pszemkow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Paul Szemkow) writes:
>Is there a easy way of producing and managing mathematical equations?  I 
>looked through the manuals and could not find a good reference.  Where
>should I look?
>

There is an easy way, but only if you have the Interleaf equation
editor. Ask your system manager. 

Michael
From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: new BSD man macros
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:47:51 GMT
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego

As we all know, the BSD man macros are now quite different from
any previous variety.  I am sitting here in the midst of a bunch
of Sun workstations, and an occasional NeXT, and wondering how to
create manual pages for the new BSD software which turns up on
archive sites.

Does someone have a recipe for choosing the various "tmac.andoc"
pieces and putting them in some compatible place on a system which
otherwise uses all the older tmac.* stuff?  

	carl

        carl lowenstein         marine physical lab     u.c. san diego
        {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl                 cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu
                                                  clowenstein@ucsd.edu
--
From: hardiman@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Paul Hardiman)
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
Subject: SGML query program
Keywords: SGML
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:41:13 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle


I am interested in knowing of any:
1) software that can do ad hoc queries for data from
ASCII SGML files

2) query and manipulation languages
that might be suitable for ASCII SGML files.

3) Indexers for elements and attributes.


I do not recall much discussion on using ASCII SGML documents
as data bases, so this might be new territory.


I know that there are a few systems that handle query
capability, but they all seem to want to convert the
file into a database.  That is no bueno for me - the
files must stay ASCII files.


If proprietary interests are involved, please advise.


I have thrown a few query examples together to help explain
my interest:
(pardon the SQL look-alike, I don't get out often enough)

> select content from 321.memo
>   where gi = "subject";
SGML query program

> select attr from 321.memo
>   where gi = "memo" and attr = "nbr";
pmh1223

to retrieve the subject and id from a memo.
   
   OR

> select memo.subject, "\t", memo[nbr] from 321.memo;
SGML query program     pmh1223

where content is implied if the item specified is a GI
and attribute value is implied if the item is an attribute.

The DTD for memo might look like

<!ELEMENT   memo    - -  (date,to, from, subject) >
<!ATTLIST   memo         nbr  CDATA  #IMPLIED     >
<!ELEMENT   subject - -  (#PCDATA)                >
.
.
.


Thanks.

BTW, my email has been a little dull lately, so even
flames are welcome.


Ciao 4 Now.

-- 
Ciao 4 Now ---
  Paul Hardiman  (206) 728-8843  hardiman@bcstec.boeing.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
From: angelino@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (flavio angelino)
Subject: TEI P2
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:26:03 GMT




I just got the file P222 P2X from this ListServ, but I still nedd the
following files:
	tiny.dtd
	oddexdos.dtd
	p2x.dtd
in order to parse the previous file.
Would anybody please tell me if these files are present in this
ListServ, if so, would anybody tell me where I can find them from?

Thanks a lot

		Flavio.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
From: bloomfld@stat.ncsu.edu (Peter Bloomfield)
Subject: SGML and mathematics
Originator: bloomfld@essspb.stat.ncsu.edu
Organization: Statistics, NCSU
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:38:49 GMT



I read in BYTE (June 92) that ``The Eelctronic Publishing Special
Interest Group has begun to refine its SGML application for markup
of complex mathematics and tables.''  Where can I find out more about
this?

Thanks in advance, Peter Bloomfield
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