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From: a1v@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Literary competition
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:30:56 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University



	Announcement of literary competitions
			by
	The Telugu Association of the Greater Delaware Valley

***************************************************************

	Our association is sponsoring a writing competetion in Telugu
to coincide with the special anniversary (Sankranthi) issue of Telugu Vani.
A number of advertisements have already been placed in A.P. press. This 
competition is also open to people currently residing in the U.S. The details
are given below:

This competition has 5 parts. Writers may take part in any one or as many
as they wish.

1. Katha

2. Naatika (Ekaankika kaani, anekaankika kaani, aadhunika samaajaaniki 
 sandesa poorithamaina haasya naatika.)

3. Telugu samaajamulo saanghika samasyalu - vaati prabhaavamu, parishkaara
 maargamulu.

4. Telugu navala - Kutumba jeevithamu pai daani prabhaavam.

5. Telugu lalitha kalala prathyekatha.



Conditions:
1)   All literary works should be in Telugu.
2)   Entries in any section should not exceed four printed (masapatrika) pages. 
3)   Each entry should be accompanied by the author's signed assurance that 
     it hasn't been published anywhere else.
4)   Two prizes will be awarded in each category. 
          First prize    :    Rs. 1116
          Second prize   :    Rs.  558
     If the winning entry comes from writers residing in America, cash awards 
     will be given in dollars equivalent to the above prize values.
     Authors of the award winning entries will be notified by mail.  Committee's
     decision will be final in selecting the winning entries.  
5)   The committee reserves the right to publish the winning entries in the 
     news letter of the Telugu Association of the Greater Delaware Valley  
     (Delaware Valley Telugu Vani).
6)   Unpublished entries will not be returned to the authors.
7)   Last date for submitting entries is September 15, 1992.

Send your entries to the following address:

     Literary Competition,
     Telugu Association of the Greater Delaware Valley,
     2466, Jodi Sue Lane,
     Colmar,  PA 18915.
From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
Keywords: satti
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:36:41 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <16bg48INN8jp@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu>, sngattan@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Sanjay N Gattani) writes:
> prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Aug12.035438.2679@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, vedati@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Keshavprasad Vedati  ECE-GRAD) writes:
> >> In article <1992Aug11.142009.12725@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth) writes:
> >> 
> >> Just because I happen to be a hindu does not necessarily mean that 
> >> whatever I practice constitutes a hindu practice. 
> >  ^^^^^^^^
> 
> >Sure. Not everything that you practice are Hindu customs. Aren't
> >somethings that you practice Hindu practices ?
>   
>    < stuff deleted >
> 
> >Applying the same yard stick, caste system is not a Hindu practice
> >but a personal act. 
> >Can you give me an example of a heinious Hindu practice ? There
> >is none, because we can always say that any practice is a personal 
> >act.
> 
> >> Using the same yard stick can you say having five husbands is also a 
> >> hindu practice.(DRAUPADI).
> >>
> 
> >I was merely trying to point out that Sati was prevalent during 
> >the time of Vyasa, contrary to the other claims that were posted.
> >If the practices of his time were not Hindu practices, I dont
> >know what they are. 
> 
> >>                           With regards 
> >>                         Vedati K.P.
> >>   
> 
> >RKP
> 
> I see what you are saying is that whatever we practice as Hindus can         
> be termed as Hindu practice.  Agreed.  Now, out of 650 million Hindus in
> India, how many practice Sati?  From your argument it looks likes it is 
> a big number for you to classify this act as Hindu practice.  Or even
> if a small number in some part of India is good enough for it to be called
> as Hindu practice, I guess the practice of killing a daughter at the time 
> of birth (which by the way is done in many villages) also is a Hindu
> practice.
>

IMO, all the rites and rituals mentioned in the Puranas, good or 
bad, are Hindu practices. They dont account for all the Hindu
practices (ie. there are Hindu practices not mentioned in the
puranas). There can be practices that nobody practices. So the
number of people is unimportant.

If the practice of killing daughters at the time of birth is
mentioned in the Puranas or other hindu religious texts, or
if it is done by Hindus alone, then it is a condemnable Hindu 
practice.

> sanjay 

RKP
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.Indian or Islam or Hinduism??
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:09:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Aug13.200933.10478
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

>>---raj
>RAJ ! YOU HAVE REALLY TAKEN THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH!!! 'AM WITH YOU.
>AS I KNOW LOTS OF SILENT OTHERS ARE.
>
>>> Sankar

MAJORITY IS ALWAYS UNDER DELUSION

LAW #1 OF SCIENTIFIC RELIGION

Arindam
From: raghavan@wk21.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:54:39 GMT
Organization: -

In article <susanc.714331397@keckiris> susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko) writes:

[...]

  >Men all over India wear trousers. Trousers and shirts have become
  >very much a part of the Indian landscape, sometimes merged comfortably
  >with traditional clothing (for e.g., shirts and mundus in Kerala).
  >If you don't doubt the ethnic identity of an Indian man in a t-shirt,
  >why can you not accept that an Indian woman in jeans is still
  >undoubtedly Indian?
If the 'cats' don't accept it, take appropriate action.  First, women
should convince themselves it is perfectly okay to make a choice in
clothing even if it is different from what 'mom wears'. 

  >Like Uma, I don't like wearing Indian clothes if it's demanded or
  >expected, but I love wearing them when *I* feel like it. 
There is no reason for compulsion what-so-ever. This is true of women's 
hairstyles too. Yes, *you* should choose whatever pleases you or
someone you love.

  >As for androgynous clothing, women already wear most forms of male
  >clothing. The ball seems to be in your court, guys :-).
Personally, I am happy that men and women have pants, shirts, tshirts,
lungis, pajamas, suits, and coats, as common clothing. If you are 
suggesting men should try wearing a sari or churidar, thanks, but
no thanks.

  >Susan.
Regards,
Raghavan, V.

P.S.: Reminds me of an old 'Cheers' episode I was watching a few days ago.
Lilith is standing outside Rebecca's office teaching her how to dress for 
success. Carla goes to her and asks, "What does this successful business
woman look like?".  Lilith proudly points to Rebecca coming out her office.  
Carla looks at Rebecca and answers her own question saying, "Oh, a man". :-)
Don't flame me, flame NBC and Bob "Costner", if you want. :-)
From: bkannan@ha06.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Curious observation
Date: 20 Aug 1992 18:02:35 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


>>  There is more to life than covering up :-)

>Perhaps Mr. Kannan would care to elucidate?


   Covering up as in "munding" up. :-)


>Was it because he was half naked?


   I thought my first statement answered that.


   bk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ahsyed@icaen.uiowa.edu (Abdul Hafeez Syed)
Subject: First Step Towards Forming BMS Engg College (Bangalore) Network
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:44:08 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

hi,
   I and my friends are planning to form a network of all Bangalore 
University students ( especially BMS college students).  Please send
your name, address, email and other details to :
ahsyed@icaen.uiowa.edu.  I, Srinidhi, Pramod and Suresh have already 
got together in this network.  We are all 1985 IPE students from 
BMSCE.  Forming a network would also help in informing each other 
about the job oppurtunites and also to arrange for get together sometime
in future.  This will also help the new students to contact us and we 
could be of some help to them, whenever time permits.  This network
can be named BMS Network.  It will also provide information about the
others, which would help you to keep in touch with everyone on either
email or phone, whichever is convenient.
   Please send your name and address to ahsyed@icaen.uiowa.edu  
Hope to hear from all BMS ites as soon as possible.

Syed Abdul Hafeez   
(1985 to 1990 IPE student)
620 N.Linn Street,  Iowa City, Iowa 52245
Phone 319/354-4541 (H)
      319/335-5932 (o)


bye
syed
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From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Contradictions in Secularism
Date: 13 Aug 1992 13:02:39 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug12.172943.21294@cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
:In article <l8ia1hINNapu@pageboy.cs.utexas.edu: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder) writes:
:
::This brings us to the fundamental basic of secularism. Religion of
::secularism decrees that henceforth life of man has been divided
::between "personal" and "collective" spheres. It has further
::been ordained that henceforth any thing to do with god or religion
::will be constrained to fit into the "personal" sphere!!!!!!
::
::Would any one illuminate us as to which god or gods have made this
::demarkation? Is this god the god of logic, rationalism or 
::utilitarianism?
:
:   You are asking a rhetorical question whose import is that i. secularism
:is as much a religion as any other religion, and ii. that its separation
:of the personal from social is open to question.  Actually, I agree in
:some ways with part ii. but I will argue that it is necessary for us
:to live in peace with each other.

:	[rest deleted. Let's go step by step]

Who has decreed that "to live in peace" is such a wonderful
idea? After all, the concept of "evolution" predicates that
we wouldn't have reached this level of "learning" and 
"intelligence" unless we had overcome all the "weaklings"
on the way. May be there is even higher level of "intelligence"
waiting for us, if we only allow the "fittest" to survive?




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Olympics
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:39:21 GMT

In article <86532@netnews.upenn.edu> sanjay@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Sanjay Kumar) writes:
>powerhouses - in sports or economy, and are not even 50 million strong.
>On the other hand, "Mera Mahaan Bharat" with more than 800 million

CORRECTION  85 CRORES (A.K.A 850 MILLION).


>cannot even buy a place on any event final, leave alone a medal.  Where
>are all our athletes from the Armed forces? Too busy quelling secession
>in the corners of the country, we guess. We are totally ashamed to say
>that I am from a country which is so "impoverished that it cannot buy
>astroturf" for its athletes to acclimate themselves.

You havent accounted for guys like you me and the others
on this net, who ran away from india.


>    Being ashamed, however, is not the answer.  At this point in time,
>asking why and how this scenario has arisen is irrelevant? In our humble
>opinion, the pertinent question is - How can this problem be resolved?
>Suresh Annavarapu
>Subhash Khatri


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Mr.Ed Crick
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:45:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <17AUG199202452810@vax2.concordia.ca> debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
>
> This is addressed to Mr.Crick (Mr.Crack ?).
>
>  If you are n Indian, then you should not have been born. You are full of shit
>  and will remain malodorous that way - throughout your life. 
>
>  Sorry for being so blatantly straight forward. (No hard feelings !)
>
> - deb chatterjee
>(a good samaritan)
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ah yes, once again Mr. Chatterjee you offer the net your profuse verbal 
defecation.  As if being a good samaritan isn't enough for you, you have given
yourself an even loftier position, that of God.  You can determine who may
or may not be born.  There may be a career for you in pre-natal DNA testing
for birth defects.  Just think though, had that technology existed when you
were in utero your parents may have denied us all the pleasure of reading
your absolutely brainless ideas.  By your logic Muslims should also be 
aborted.  Mr. Chatterjee, are you sure that you aren't the architect of the
Serbian "ethnic cleansing" operation?

How strange indeed it is for a "good samaritan" to decide who should exist.
Perhaps you should retitle yourself the "narrow-minded, malevolent hate-
monger."

Unlike "Chatterjeestan," the US (and I assume Canada) allows freedom of 
speech and thought.  If you cannot tolerate the ideas of others, no matter
how offensive to you, then you shouldn't live in this part of the globe.
Go back to India, and join that Hindu-fanatic religious party.  You are
well qulaified to be their "Grand Wizard."

Ed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uttamma@i88.isc.com (Uttam Majumdar)
Subject: IMMIGRATION and BIRTH CERTIFICATE
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:11:56 GMT

Hello netters::

  I have some queries about the following issues:

 a) Birth certificate from any government body (sub divisional office) or only
    the certificate collected from municipality  is valid ?


 b) Format of the affidavit in case the birth certificate is not available.


   Please send your responses to the following id
                              .. thanks ..(uttam)
                                    (uttamma@i88.isc.com)
From: patp@Auspex.COM (Pat Patwardhan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Suggestions needed regarding F1/H4 visa
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:56:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara




Hi Netters,

I am posting this message on behalf of a friend who is in India and needs your suggestions 
in a visa matter. Although the situation is pretty complex, I will try to describe 
his problem as briefly as possible.

My friend who was doing his Master's in EE went to India to get married to his fiancee. 
Since he is about to graduate in three months and his I-20 too is expiring in December, he 
decided not to bring his wife here on an F-2 visa but to get her here on a F-1 visa (she 
has secured admission in the M.S program of EE). At the time of applying for the visa, 
my friend's fiancee was not assured of any assistantship and so showed the visa officer 
some large X amount of bank statement as the source of funding. Unfortunately she was 
rejected a visa on the grounds that her family could not have acquired that kind of money 
on the sole basis of their salaries. Now there is a possiblity of her getting an 
assistantship which would probably cover 80-90% of her living + school expenses here. 
			
	After my friend's fiancee's visa was rejected, they got married and the question 
now is whether she should declare herself as married or single when she applies for a 
F-1 visa for the second time?  
	What are chances that the consulate/visa officer will reject her application again if she 
declares herself as married?  A suggestion given to my friend was that he should try 
to bring his fiancee here on a H-4 visa once he gets a job, but given the current hiring situation 
it could be months before she finally arrives here.


I would welcome any suggestions that you may have or any experiences that you would like to share.

Thanks in advance

-Chintamani Patwardhan

Please send your replies to "patp@auspex.com"
--------------------------------------------
From: dawar@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Justice Bains Released on Bail
Keywords: Justice Bains, Human Rights, Punjab
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:35:02 GMT


				PRESS RELEASE
Committee for the Release of Justice Ajit Singh Bains        August 18, 1992


JUSTICE BAINS RELEASED ON BAIL ON AUGUST 18, 1992

After four and a half months of detention, Justice Ajit Singh Bains was
released on bail today, August 18, by the Designated Court at Ropar in
Punjab.  No stipulations have been put on the bail order.

The decision followed from the Supreme Court's advice to the Punjab
Government not to oppose the application for bail.  During the hearing of
the petition, on August 14, alleging mala fide intent against the Chief
Minister of Punjab, Mr. Beant Singh, a proposal was made by the Attorney
General of India to the effect that the Government would agree to release
Justice Bains of the case against Beant Singh was dropped.  Justice
Venkatachelliah, on behalf of the bench, strongly opposed the linking of the
two cases and said that the petition would continue to be heard in the
Supreme Court.  Hardev Singh, Counsel for Mrs. Bains, agreed with the
judge's decision not to compromise the hearing of the petition.  The next
hearing of the mala fide case against the Punjab Government will be held on
September 8.  As of today the Government has still not brought a case
against Justice Bains.

Justice Bains spoke with a member of the Committee for hsi release and said
that his health was fine.  He asked that his deepest gratitude be conveyed
to all those who had worked on the campaign for his release and that the
struggle for the restoration of human rights would carry on.


For further information or background, please contact:

Dr. Jeffrey Goodman - Canadian Coordinator
Committee for the Release of Justice Ajit Singh Bains.
	  76 Rusholme Rd., Toronto, Ontario M6J 3H5
	  Tele/Fax Number: (416) 537-8142
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.sex
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Re: Is it correct that ...
Followup-To: alt.sex
Summary: Cross-posted for some authoritative comments
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:40:46 GMT

[Cross-posted to alt.sex; considering the number of follow-ups
on this subject without substance some cross-pollination can't
hurt. Hope the original poster understands. Note follow-up.]

In article <1992Aug22.220104.16648@udel.edu> godura@daffy.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.195644.28162@jade.tufts.edu> slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri) writes:
>>I do not know whether this is true or not, but there seems to 
>>be a strong belief that masterbation lowers a person's 
>>intelligence level. In our student life this belief was so 
>>widespread that guys used to suffer a kind of mental depression
>>after doing it (just before exams) and as a result their 
>>performance in the exams happened to be less than satisfactory.
>>IMHO the mental depression was the killing factor and not
>>the "thing". That masterbation lowers person's mental faculties
>>is very strongly preached by the "religious books" published by
>>Chaitanya Math. It also describes the persons doing this as "of
>>a lower strata". Is there any scientific explanation of this ?
>>IMHO this is BS. I have my personal records to refute this.
>>
>>Flames, ideas, logic, and plain bs most welcome.
>>
>>-Sandip
>
>  Yanking reducing u'r intelligence ?!! Gimmie another one.
>  I know a guy with an average of thrice a day, and he got a triple
>  eight in GRE.
>  I hate to brag, but the correlation works well in my case too (almost
>  exactly ) -- yours truly got a 2340.
>
>  luv,
>
>  Shaggy, D.A.


--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: elee42d@elroy.uh.edu (Sudipto Sen)
Subject: Request to Arindam.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:00:00 GMT
From: arun@pyramid.unr.edu (Saravanan Arunachalam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Student Visa-Madras Urgent.
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:48:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

Hi,

This is regarding student visa at Madras for my friend. He has got an
admission in M.B.A program. He has now gotin to a problem in getting the
F-1 Visa. Applied first time and was turned down by the now infamous women
at Madras consulate. Reason quoted is that he has not enough evidence
that he will maintain his Non-Immigrant status at the U.S.

He has got a Bank Loan to support his studies. 
Anybody through this before and got through in the second attempt,
Please give your suggestions for him to make a successful second attempt.

Please reply by E-mail to arun@pyramid.unr.edu.
Thanx in advance.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bimal@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (Bimal Parikh)
Subject: Is there e-mail and news systems in India?
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, JCUNQ
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:38:34 GMT

Dear friends,
   If you have answer of my question, could you please inform me? I am also 
interested to know, are those, there in IIT colleges?
   Thanks for your interest.

Bimal.
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: New airline -- (NOT TWA)
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:28:00 GMT
Followup-To: giand@opencon.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.

In article <Aug.13.12.00.08.1992.7624@remus.rutgers.edu> basu@remus.rutgers.edu (sid-darth vader) writes:
>
>It was in the papers today that United Airlines will
>start operating To New Delhi starting in February. It
>is also introducing a round-the-world air ticket since
>so far only the Indian subcontinent was outside its
>global link.
>
>This brings to three the number of US airlines operating
>flights to/from India the others being TWA and Delta.
                                        ^^^

	Sorry, but I don't beleive that TWA files to INDIA directly,
it uses its flying partner Air-India to do that out of LONDON.

	Deepak
From: polina@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Sivaramakrishna Polina)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: NEED INFO. ON OPNET AND INTELLIGENT NETWORKS.
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:15:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens
Originator: polina@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu

Hai,

I would like to know how good is OPNET software used to stimulate mobile 
networks.

Also, I should be very greatful if somebody can inform me how good is the topic
intelligent networks, for a thesis topic. I mean from the job point of view. I 
hope somebody working in AT&T could answer me well.

I need quick response, please.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Bye,

Sivaramakrishna polina
-- 
*********Be never a leader of men, I'd rather be a flower of women.***********
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bala@iastate.edu (M.K.Balasubramanya)
Subject: Air India and terra-cotta
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:55:43 GMT



The discussion on Air India reminded me of an incident that I had almost
forgotten. I was flying Air India four years ago - the flight was pleasant and
the food quite good. During a dinner I bit into something hard and it turned
out to be a piece of broken china. I said to the stewardess "Madam, I seem to
have a piece of china in the meal". She peered hard at the white thing and 
said, "No, no - it is terra-cotta".
						b a l a
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian