From: Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Looking for NON-trackers...
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:40:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: agwbbs.Paul_Trauth.0bkg
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Tue  7 Apr 92 12:53, Clldomps@cs.ruu.nl (louis Van Domps
wrote:
 CVD> Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth) writes:
>     Ok. I've been playing around with 'trackers for quite a while, and
>have slowly become sick to death of the whole 'tracker piano-roll like
>metaphor. Can anyone point me to a GOOD music routine that:
>- comes with replay routine source
>- lets you sequence each voice SEPERATELY
>- has flexibility in possible effects (for instance, it would be nice to
be
>able to do things like arpeggiate and slide at the same time)
>- doesn't hog the CPU like almost all 'trackers do
>- comes with reasonable docs
>- is PD or of dubious ownership (like the 'trackers... SoundTracker was
>originally commercial, but it's been so re-written and modified by an
>endless list of hackers that it's close to PD now)
>
>Having something similar to the PLST the 'trackers use would also be nice,
>i don't want to wait for it to load the directory of an instrument disk
>from floppy!
>
 CVD> Ironically, what comes closest to this is a tracker clone, MED v3.11
 CVD> or higher.
Several people (including you :-)) have written me mail telling me that MED
is the solution to my woes. It isn't.
MED has the same problems, conceptually, that every other tracker does, as
well as its OWN set of problems, not the least of which is a very
awkward-feeling interface.
Note that I classify MED as another 'tracker. For that matter, Oktalyzer is
at its heart a 'tracker; it just has eight voices and slightly different
commands. Basically, if you're presented with several (one for each voice)
columns of notes and hex data, it's JAFT. [Just Another Darned Tracker]

What I'd *really* like to find, but am afraid i'm probably going to have to
code myself, is a player that'll let me do stuff like this:
voice 0 sequence: patt 0 patt 2 patt 2 patt 7 ...
voice 1 sequence: patt 1 patt 5 patt 6 patt 1 ...
voice 2 sequence: patt 9 patt 9 patt 9 patt 9 ...
voice 3 sequence: patt 8 patt A patt B patt B ...
where each pattern is for -one voice only-.

This is my Holy Grail of internal music routines (i don't give a fig about
MIDI; don't have the money at all for even a cheap keyboard). Something
like this would be *wonderful*. I'm seriously thinking about giving up my
search and gritting my teeth and starting to code.

Sometimes i wonder about all those oddly-named music routines that you
never see modules from, just support in mod players with too many formats,
such as Delitracker or Multiplayer. Surely they can't ALL be using the same
tracker approach!


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