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Subject:      Re: REGIONAL MOVIES

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                                        Date:     18-Nov-1992 08:34am EST
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Subject: RE: REGIONAL MOVIES

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I thought My Blue Heaven was one of
the worst movies I had ever seen.  It was overacted, misused the talents of
Steve Martin and Rick Moranis (?), and generally a bore.  By the way, it was
the trailers and promos that made me want to see that movie.  Unfortunately,
the few truly funny scenes from the movie were in the trailer (S. Martin doing
the Mambo is hilarious) making the movie a disappointment.  I thought My Cousin
Vinny was pretty funny.  But you know, now that I think of it, the scenes that
I found so funny were scenes the poked fun at Pesci's accent - "these two
yutes," his girlfriend's clothing - "yeah, and you blend," - both ethnic and
regional references.  Maybe I found them so funny because, being an urban to
rural transplant, people have made fun of my own accent, yes, I say dawg and
wawda.  Maybe to someone else, those references would not be so funny.  Ellen
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:20:56 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Laserdiscs

Jim,

Those are a lot of great recommendations for gift-discs of older movies.
Would've made at least most of them myself.  Can I add any other others?
Here are just a few off the top of my head right now--without much in the
way of notes or dates, but taking into account video quality.

Journey into Fear and Touch of Evil (both O. Welles)
Greed (the truncated von Stoheim film is still strong stuff and amazingly
  well preserved film)
Love Me or Leave Me (Doris Day and James Cagney; a terrific letterboxed
  disc and an adult love story from Hollywood around 1955)
Sweet Smell of Success (director Alec Mackendrick's splendid realization
  of Clifford Odet's New York showbiz heartlessness, circa late 50s)

... I don't know.  I'll think some more when I have time and perhaps make
a further posting.

Jeff Clark
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Subject:      A discussion on low forms of cinema

So I'm flipping through cable the other night and I see
that The Movie Channel is going to show Chuck Norris'
The Hitman.  I remembered reading the box in a video shop,
and I was tempted to rent it.  It had some three and half star
review from somebody, something about "Norris in a completely
different type of role."  Well to make a long story short,
I watched it on cable.  So what was the big deal?  It was
the same as any other cop/kung-fu movie.  Drugs, crooked cops,
the mob, lots of automatic gun spray, an innocent victim, etc. etc.

Poor old Chuck, I always kinda hoped that after Code of Silence
he'ld see the light and continue to put some thought into the
roles he would pick.  Apparently not.

Next week Joe will share his thoughts on Puppet Master III.

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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From:         Nero <CC017221@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Bodyguard

Yes, I must agree that "The Bodyguard" is a sad excuse for a film. But hey!
Hollywood is out to make money. There are a precious few concerned about making
 good films. For example, "A Few Good Men" is an excellent screenplay (having
seen the stage version) but in order to make money, they producers have to
insert big auidence actors like Cruise and Moore. It's an unfortunate world we
live in....


        -Nero
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From:         Becky Albitz 5-5931 <CADALBTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cruise

I think those who live in Johnstown PA (where all the right moves was
filmed and where it took place) might not want their town considered
"nowhere," although it is economically depressed.  Taps was also
filmed in PA at a military academy whose name escapes me--my
cousin was a student there.

Just some trivia...
Becky Albitz
University of Iowa Libraries
(former PA resident)
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:55:10 -0600
From:         JACKSOSM@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Dracula

>By the way, all this talk about Dracula got me thinking about the version
>starring Frank Langella that came out around 15 years ago.  I remember it as
>a sexy, scary film that delivered on its promise to entertain.  I think
>Laurence Olivier played Van Helsing.  Basically, I'm bringing all this up be-
>cause I read somewhere that Coppola said he wanted to present a _sexy_ movie
>and I remember that Dracula being *sehr* sexy.  I know my sister was so
>enamored of Frank Langella (whatever happened to...) that she was first in line
>to see Sphinx and Vagabond King.
>
>Just thought I'd bring that out.
>
>                                                Alex

I saw this one on TBS a couple of weeks ago.  It was surprisingly
effective.  Darkly romantic, with great sets.  Dracula's sexuality
was emphasized in a way that I do not recall earlier versions doing.

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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re:      Alladin
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:54:09 GMT

Check the Disney newsgroup for a whole bunch of stuff about Aladdin.

Siskel and Ebert liked it (two thumbs up).

The soundtrack is fantastic!

There was a sneak preview November 13, and the film has opened in Los 
Angeles and New York.  It open nationwide November 25th (day before 
Thanksgiving).  The two theaters showing Aladdin made $900,000 the first week.

Enjoy!

Torsten at Omaha
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:42:16 CST
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Ellen L. Gfroehrer said:

> I have a vague rememberence of Dracula being a broadway play and Frank
> Langella playing the lead.  Does this ring a bell with anyone else?

You're correct.  It was a wonderful production, made even more memorable
with the sets designed by Edward Gorey.  Can't remember the years, but
it ran at least two before the Badham film.

AND, when Langella left the production to star in the film, Jeremy Brett
(of PBS Sherlock Holmes fame) took over.

                                --Garrie
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Subject:      Film Noir comedies

And don't forget SOMETHING WILD.

Jim Thompson
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From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Dracula

Whatever happened to Frank Langella, anyway?
                              Alex
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:35:04 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Restored THE ABYSS coming out on LD!

Liam,

Here is some probable explanation for why a revised ABYSS (or revised
ALIENS or any other such film) won't be released on tape or the theatre.

First, theatrical re-release.  This is usually a matter of hard economics.
Unless a film has had a very large following, or at least a devoted cult
following and prestigious reputation, even a limited re-release isn't likely.
BLADERUNNER at least fit the devoted cult part of the formula, and now the
revised director's cut will be in circulation for future rentals to reportory
cinema's, etc.  THE ABYSS, alas, has neither the reputation nor really the
visible cult... though Cameron's revision may make it available years from
now for the repertory circuit.  --At any rate, that's one man's somewhat
informed opinion on this matter.

Now, the tape issue.  On this matter, a bit more conjecture on my part, some
personal opinion that may incite some flaming... but probably not far off the
mark.  Especially since we're taking here Cameron as the example, about whom
I know a few things related to his views on his films and home video.  Just
recently, Cameron said in an interview that it would be wonderful to have THE
ABYSS re-released theatrically, but the realities of the movie business leave
such revised films as his a second-best option, usually--an ideal presentation
in the home video format.  The format he's devoted to is laserdisc.  Because it'
   s best able to handle interactivelly the added features to a film (commentary
   ,
production footage and stills, etc), and--probably most important--quality of
the visual and audio presentation.  A director such as Cameron (who recently,
remember, got a studio contract to own his own negatives from now on) would
probably not settle for anything less.  The quality of VHS video just doesn't
cut it, even on a smaller screen, especially when the filmmaker may've gone to
the trouble to personally supervise a digital video transfer. And of course
Cameron's gone beyond that with his transfers, working on compiling the addi-
tional materials on the disc, even finishing production on scenes that have
been added and using alternate takes of ones already in the film because they'll
   now cut better with what's being added.  There may of course be other reasons
not related to a filmmaker's personal artistic concerns, such as marketing
strategy to build the laser market (which isn't really mass yet, though it's
a growing success) by withholding the new version from tape.  Think about CD's:
the same thing was done to LP records (and even cassettes, sometimes), when
musical groups added "bonus songs" to the CD versions of their albums.

--Anyway, that's the best I can make in terms of explanation on these issues.
Jeff Clark
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 09:39:46 -0500
From:         Gary Graffagnino <ACCGSG@HOFSTRA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Certificates?

>You were 16 and couldn't pretend to the ticket man that you were 17? Do
>you have to prove your ID in the States? I got into a 15 cert film here
>when I was 12 (The Supergrass I remember) and an 18 cert when I was 15.

I look very young for my age.

                           ______
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:42:51 -0600
From:         CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      The Prisoner (was RE: Help!)

Comic books on the Prisoner tv show have also been published.  There
was a Prisoner "Graphic Novel" about 2 or 3 years ago (if memory serves).

I have seen interviews with Patrick, stating that the Prisoner was not
based on his Drake character from DangerMan (sold to the United States\
as Secret Agent).  But then Patrick did not answer all of questions
about The Prisoner. Or at least the ones most people would have
liked an answer for. :) :) :)

Carol Doms
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:19:00 EST
From:         AMBLY@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU
Subject:      Re: Alladin

As a matter of interest, in their infinite wisdom, Disney chose Peabo
Bryson as the male half of the duo that's singing the signature song for
ALLADIN.  Regina Bell, a songstress also known for singing wonderful ballards
will be doing the female part.  I heard it on ET a while back and it's
great!  It's sure to be a hit on the pop charts, which we all know often
contributes to the success of a film.

Another point of interest...A friend of mine just told me that Bryson also
singing on a new album of songs from THE KING AND I.  Other singers include
Julie Andrews as Anna and Ben Kingsley as the King.  She says the soundtrack
was highlighted on NPR recently and was outstanding!  I think it's one we
lover of musicals will definitely have to add to our collections.

Adrian
Clemson
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:53:13 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Dracula

One further point of trivia about the Frank Langella/John Badham (dir.)
Dracula.  Badham originally pushed to have the film done almost in B&W,
so that it looked mostly flesh-tone-tinted, like an Edward Gorey illus-
tration.  Studio wouldn't go for it, but he managed to have it transferred
that way to laserdisc this past year (don't know whether a re-release of the
tape came out that way).  I saw it, and it's intriguingly effective, though it's
   been too long since I originally saw it in color to compare impressions now.
Don't own the disc however: I tried, but couldn't get a decent copy (a bad
pressing run, apparently).  Jeff Clark
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Subject:      Re: The Lawnmower Man

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                                        Date:     23-Nov-1992 09:47am EST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
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Subject: RE: The Lawnmower Man

Michael:

You're back!
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Subject:      The Lawnmower Man

Last night I watched the "unrated director's cut" videotape of _The Lawnmower
Man_ which I had previously seen during it's first theatre run.  Now that
first theatre run was a while ago, so it could just be my fading memory,
but I think I remember the scientist's wife leaving him fairly early in
the movie while she doesn't run off in the videotape version.  Can anyone
who saw the original cut in the theatre confirm or refute my memory?

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         "NAME \"Helen Eberle\"" <EBERLEHB@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Re:Waits

"Underwritten and Overproduced"
How true!  The story got lost early on and little was done to find it.
Dracula was beautiful to watch but had no substance.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:30:34 -0400
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: tumbleweeds are tumbleweeds

>...when Top Gun came out, we got a lot of people here who joined up
>so they could live that dream....When The Hunt for Red October came out,
>...people signed up based on what they saw in the picture.  If you
>really believe that anyone who measures his life against the movies
>is too innocent to live,...you have a lot of work ahead of you.


Alex-

You're reinforcing my point, even if inadvertantly. Anyone who chooses
military life on the basis of TOP GUN or RED OCTOBER might very well be,
quite literally, too innocent to live.

kjf-
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:56:01 -0500
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Just et cetera

Bert,
        Thanks for the tip on Toidori Yenshi.  We don't have it in my
department video library (where the price is right), so I'll have to go
commercial.  Think I'll make it a double feature with The Icycle Thief.

BTW, everyone, please allow me to eat my hat on my comments about Dead Again's
score.  I watched it yet again last night & must agree that, yes, it is re-
petitive.  But it works, nonetheless.

                                                        Alex
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:11:47 -0600
From:         JACKSOSM@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Detective parody films

Rick,

Have you invented some new form of agitprop in a signature?

j-man

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Subject: Help!
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:42:00 GMT
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Cinema-L'ers:  I have a friend whose has very strange tastes in movies and
often succumbs to bouts of nostalgia.  This week he remembered that there
are two movies he saw as a youngsters and enjoyed very much and would like
to see again.  The movies are: ACROSS THE WIDE MISSOURI, an epic western,
and "WIND ACROSS THE EVERGLADES," what he describes as an action-adventure
film set in the everglades with Burle Ives and Christopher Plummer in the
lead roles.  He says he's been having trouble finding them in his regular
video stores.  Have you guys heard of these movies, and if so, do you have
any idea where he might be able to order, or at least view them?

Adrian
Clemson

P.S., my friend is also an avid fan of an old British TV series called THE
PRISONERS starring Patrick McGoogan.  I caught a couple of episodes and it
wasn't too bad.  My friend is gaa-gaa over it.  He wants to know were there
ever any plans to make the series into a movie?  I believe he told me the
series was based on a book.  Do you guys know the name of the book and the
author?
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From:         smmat@UKC.AC.UK
Subject:      Re:The Lawnmower Man

>Last night I watched the "unrated director's cut" videotape of _The Lawnmower
>Man_ which I had previously seen during it's first theatre run.  Now that
>first theatre run was a while ago, so it could just be my fading memory,
>but I think I remember the scientist's wife leaving him fairly early in
>the movie while she doesn't run off in the videotape version.  Can anyone
>who saw the original cut in the theatre confirm or refute my memory?
>
>John McIntyre
>Physics - Astronomy Dept
>Michigan State University

The Lawnmower man was released on video here in the UK only a few days ago
and just watched it last night (I haven't seen it in the theatre though),
but in the video version the wife does leave early in the movie.
I am intersted to see how (if at all) her not leaving has affected the
events of the movie in this version you saw?!

Sami.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:47:21 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: vampire movies

Carol,
The Lance Henrickson film was NEAR DARK, by director Kathryn Bigelow, who
did POINT BREAK most recently.  One I've been meaning to see for a long time.

Also a favorite of mine--and not just for sentimental reasons--is the Hammer
original remake, HORROR OF DRACULA with Cushing and Lee.  Still holds up
very well.  Jeff Clark
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:40:10 +0100
From:         "BERT DEIVERT - FILM - UNIV. OF KARLSTAD,
              SWEDEN" <bert@KSTAD2.SUNET.SE>
Subject:      RE: Ikiru et cetera

Alex,
I suggested IKIRU, and can suggest another interesting Kurosawa film
called YOIDORE TENSHI made in 1947. I believe the English title is
 or MIGHT BE something like the SWEDISH title which translates to
THE DRUNKEN ANGEL.  Hope you can find it.  Somebody can probably
suggest the correct title.  My own little database is done on
Swedish titles and original titles.
Cheers,
Bert
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