From: bufalini@gis.psu.edu (Bruce A Bufalini)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Bruce and ken, 'Rap-Heads'
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:49:47 GMT
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In article <1992Oct13.200459.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <!7&vH4194a@atlantis.psu.edu>, Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@gis.psu.edu> writes:
>> In article <1992Oct13.124134.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>>In article <!n*vHjp83a@atlantis.psu.edu>, bufalini@gis.psu.edu (Bruce A Bufalini) writes:
>>>> In article <1992Oct12.102506.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>>>>     I'd definately say that recent rush is didactic, simplistic, and
>>>>>pretentions, but Rush up until signals was amazing.  Hemispheres is
>>>>>one of the greatest rock albums ever recorded.  And any true rush fan
>>>> 
>>>> I agree; _Hemispheres_ is one of my all-time favorites, also.
>>>> 
>>>>>would see how these pathetic "songs" they pump out today are cheap 
>>>>>rehashes of the old great pieces of music.  All the themes they use
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe they're not as great as they were in the '70s, but can you point to any
>>>> other bands whose members are in their 40's that are as great as they were in
>>>> their early 20's?
>>>
>>>     1. Pink Floyd
>> 
>> Agreed.  I hope they come out with a new album soon; They've been rumored to
>> for some time.
>> 
>>>     2. Rolling Stones (I didn't like 'em then or now, but they are
>>>                        one of the biggest)
>>>     3. Aerosmith (They still use at least one syncopated[sp?] song/album
>>>                   but the riffs are good and vocals are powerful)
>>>     4. The Grateful Dead (Will they ever stop?)
>> 
>> They should have stopped a long time ago.
>> 
>>>     5. Peter Frampton (Simply because I saw him this summer and he played
>>>                        'Frampton Comes Alive' *fantastic* along w/ new stuff)
>> 
>> He hasn't done anything that has been anywhere near as good as in the
>> _Frampton Comes Alive_ era.
>> 
>>>     6. Who (They'll be back...)
>> 
>> I hope so.  Saw 'em in '89 and were as great as ever, although most people
>> don't care much for them.
>> 
>>>     7. Steely Dan (There's only two real members anyway)
>> 
>> And they haven't done anything together for 10-12 years.
>
>Ahhhhh, but they have.  That's what the joke is.  Some shit head
>every once in a while creams in his jeans saying 'Stealy Dan is
>gonna jam together!'.  Sure, Fagen goes to 'Baker'(?)'s house and
>the band *is* back together.
>
>>>>>these days they used in the 70's.  They're dried up and only hang around
>>>>>because there's a group of people who know how good they were and naturally
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, and that is still a rather large number of fans.
>>>
>>>You seem to like to put importance on popularity.  Is this a complex
>>>from not being popular?
>> 
>> It means that popularity or no popularity, there are still many, many people
>> who love Rush's music, and I am one of them.
>
>I am not denying that, what is a bunch of crap is that you tried
>to use popularity as a gauge of talent.  That's like saying the
>best American is always president.

I never used popularity as a gauge of talent.  You're trying to say that they
can be talented or popular, but never both.

>>>>>consider them as good now without actually listening and hearing the
>>>>>blatant ripp off.  Hence, someone with the intelligence necessary to 
>>>>>print one word three to four hundred times is a typical rush fan today.
>>>> 
>>>> Not quite.  Individuals who print one word 300-400 times a day would typically
>>>> be classified as 'Rap-Heads'.
>>>
>>>Read my statement clearly, 'rap-head'.  Not only did I not write 'a day',
>>>but it describes what you and ken, the mental midget, think is a good
>>>dose of information.  You have aptly named your little clan.
>> 
>> It more accurately describes rap music and rap musicians' lack of creativity.
>
>Once again you completely miss the target!  How uninformed can you be?
>Not only did you botch the quote from a Rush song, but you missed the

I didn't botch it; I quoted it to Neil to refer to _2112_ and not some trivial
source that most people won't care about.

>above point completely!  You and your butt-boy ken print that fuckin'
>O**LE word hundreds of times and think it is intellectual.  By your

OGGLEs are very informative.  Perhaps you need a dose of them.  Just ask K e n
for some.

>own definition, you're rap-heads.  And BTW, if you're serious about
>your last statement about rap, I hope you don't mean *ALL* rap.  Shit,

No, I don't mean all, but rather a large chunk of it.  I like Tone Loc, Young
MC, and LL Cool J, to name a few, but on the whole, I don't care for much rap
music.

>I don't like it either, but remember when they said rock-n-roll was
>a fad?  Rap musicians rip off rock musicians and it is well known.  But
>not too many people know about all the r&b and jazz musicians that were
>ripped by the 'original rockers'.  It's just commin' in full circle.
>But back to the main point, you are full of shit!  :^)

And you are misinformed.  =)
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