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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Future Movies
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:55:01 GMT
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In article <1992Dec11.090236.16737@anasazi.com>, rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes...
>Okay, I have one question and a wish for the future movies.  My question is
>does anyone know of any reference besides the Ewoks and C3PO to there being
>a god/gods in the Star Wars Trilogy?  It seems to me that the Jedi are
>religious in nature, much like a monk or druid, and they would have a purpose
>to go out and defend civilization.  Any thoughts?  Off the top of my head,
>I cannot think of any references though ...

There's a book called "The Force of Star Wars," which strives to find 
religious meaning in the first movie (since it was published before the 
sequels came out).  It was written by Frank Allnutt and published by the 
Bible Voice.  Although I'm sure it's out of print now, you may be able to 
find it used somewhere.

I believe there's also an updated version by the same author, encompassing 
all three movies, but I'm not sure about this.

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
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From: cs125d36@dcl-nxt55.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student)
Subject: Re: Classic Star Wars #4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:02:08 GMT

In article <SS.92Dec11113458@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)  
writes:
> >>>>> On 11 Dec 1992 16:23:39 GMT, mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne  
Martin) said:
> 
> mmartin> Does anyone know when Classic SW #4 is coming out....or has it
> mmartin> come out already?
> 
> Well #3 came out about 2 weeks ago.....
> 
> --
>  Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive  
at
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130.215.24.1


Sorry to sound stupid, but could someone tell me what Classic SW is?
Is it related to the six issue comic book series put out by Dark Horse,
or is it something else?

Thanks,
Jeff Barcalow
jcb55284@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:24:40 EST
From: <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: What in the galaxy were we thinking?!

How many times now have we speculated on the plotlines of the next (first)
trilogy?  Oh boy, the training of Anakin!  His turn to the dark side!  The
adventures of Obi-Wan!

But have we forgotten Lucas's statement that the droids are the ONLY characters
constant in all 9 films?  Sure Darth and Obi would be played by new actors, but
they are still the same characters.  If Lucas sticks to this, there is no
telling what the new trilogy will be about.

Considering all the back history that has been told in the movies and other
sources to these events, it is probably a good idea not to base the movies on
this plot anyway.  What good will it be to watch the new trilogy if we already
know half the stuff that is going on, and also know how it will end up.  Plus
the writing could easily become contrived point A to point B fill-in-the-blank
storytelling.

I'm beginning to believe that these 3 films will be vastly different from
anything anybody has come up with yet.
                                                  ---Eric
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
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Subject: Re: LucasArts Games
Date: 19 Dec 1992 22:17:48 -0600
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  What those people are saying is that a whole new industry is going to
waste. Maybe what they are saying is that some enterprizing person can be
come a three digit millionare.
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From: wggray@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Wild Bill)
Subject: Re: Ben Kenobi's lightsabre
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:01:36 EST

>
>
>As I recall, Luke didn't have a LS in the gerbage compactor - can anyone
>correct me?
>
>
	Well, Luke had the LS with him, but I don't think he hacked his way
	out with it. I remember R2D2 getting the thing to stop and then
	open. They couldn't use blasters to shoot the door open, as, when
	Han Solo tried to shoot that whatsit attcking Luke, he almost
	added an extra hole to everyone's head with that bouncing blaster
	bolt(like that?). Probably the same reason why the LS couldn't
	be used to cut the door open, because it would be repelled by the
	magnetic field--this could also explain why LS's bounce blaster fire
	off 'em. :-)

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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
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Subject: Re: trivia buffs... :-)
Date: 19 Dec 1992 04:28:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, lebeld@JSP.UMontreal.CA (David Lebel) says:

>
>	Name the place(s) where we can see english words (not only letters
>and numbers, but actual words) in ANH... This not that easy, I can assure you
>:->...
>
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>


I can think of three, from memory.  No, four:

1)  Inside Luke's macrobinoculars.
2)  The tractor beam control screens
3)  The Death Star battle breifing screen (I think)
and
4)  Inside Luke's targeting computer

Well, how far off am I?

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From: dl91@ecs.soton.ac.uk (D Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vaders TIE
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:49:37 GMT

Whoops. That'll teach me to read all the way through my RPG books.
In the Death Star Technical Manual there is a vehicle list which 
gives the stats for Vaders TIE fighter. And no, it doesn't have a
hyperdrive. Which leads to the question: what does a bored Dark Lord
do to pass the time? 

Oh, and that line from Threepio in RotJ mentioned only Lando in the  
novelisation. Ain't seen the film for ages. 
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From: bammerla@cs.ruu.nl (Boris Ammerlaan)
Subject: Re: What is 'letterbox'?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:41:47 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <1992Dec14.065406.14055@cc.umontreal.ca> lebeld@JSP.UMontreal.CA (David Lebel) writes:


>	Sorry to bump in, but this is not in the FAQ, and as a new user
>of this group, I'm wondering on what is exactly the much-talked about
>'letterbox' thingie? (maybe it's due to the fact that I'm french-speaking
>to...). 

Well, a theater screen is about 1x2.5, a TV screen is about 1x1.5, so they
decided to do this: to show the full theatre picture on TV screen with the
rest of the screen (above and/or below) black.

B.A.
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Answers to questions (Greedo, Hobby)
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:42:41 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

julie@alaska.et.byu.edu (Julie Gritton) writes:

>"You could use a good kiss!"		JULIE

Hey, where have you been Julie - I've been missing that .sig :-)

	Mark

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From: HDW@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (H D WALDEN)
Subject: Re: Star Wars MUD
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:41:58 GMT
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In <1992Dec15.045350.17317@njitgw.njit.edu> jlv3566@hertz.njit.edu writes:

> 
> does anyone knoiw the adress where i can get a Mud program as well as a telnet site for mudding.... I believe it was 130.161.144.22 but i am not sure can someone verify this for me thanx

 	The Star Wars MUD is located at 130.161.144.22.
-dave

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From: julie@alaska.et.byu.edu (Julie Gritton)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW Mud
Reply-To: julie@bones.et.byu.edu

KoBra mud is at 130.161.144.22 8888.  Now is a good time to start
playing, too, because so many of the players are gone for Christmas
break.  You can get a head start before they all return.  I'm a jedi
there.  It's a very popular mud.  But be warned!  It's very addictive
and has led to high dropout and kick-out rates among many college
students I know.  (Surgeon General's warning...)

"You could use a good kiss!"		JULIE
(Eldora on KoBra mud)
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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:08:28 GMT

Samuel Penn writes:
>
> And while on the subject on physics, has anyone ever come up with a really 
> good
> quasi-believable reason why all the air in the docking bays of the Death 
> Star doesn't
> escape into space (considering they are wide open to a vacuum, and ships 
> fly in and
> out of them all the time). Whenever I'm GMing Star Wars my players always 
> seem to find
> a way of coming up with this question. Of course, I just ramble on about 
> air being
> made up of 'diggle' particles, and special diggle repulser fields...
>
>
>Sam (aka The Eternal Halfling).  

Because they open and close a magnetic field prior to and after a ship 
comes in?  This comes from memory in ANH.  Now do they ever show a ship
landing in the bay when people are in the bay also?  I don't remember 
thet ever occurring in the movies.  So based off that assumption ( I'm sure
someone will prove me wrong if they do show people&ship together ), they
probably pump out most of the air prior to a ship coming in, open the
magnetic field that previouslt held the air in the bay, ship lands, magnetic
field is closed, air is let back in, people come back into the bay.


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From: lcaselli@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa A Caselli)
Subject: SW comics
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:57:24 GMT


I have the entire set of Star Wars comics by Marvel to sell, including
Return of the Jedi mini-series.  Issues #1 and #8 are reprints.  If interested
please respond to--

   lcaselli@en.ecn.purdue.edu
From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:29:17 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

Do you *WANT* to try to dock a star destroyer with the Death Star?
Just think what happens if you miss the approach. :)

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From: hagerman@ece.cmu.edu (John Hagerman)
Subject: Re: A long time ago...
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:36:23 GMT

rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) writes:
>
> I just read a post about the "A long time ago..." phrase saying that,
> follwoing the idea that it is not a long time ago to US, but that it was
> a long time ago to the narrator.  The poster also said that the narrator
> would probably be long lived.  Well, just for the sake of discussion,
> combine this with the idea that C3PO and R2D2 are supposed to be the
> only constant characters in the adventures (according to some in this
> newsgroup).  Well, shouldn't it logically follow that and old C3PO may
> be the "mystery" narrator.

I agree, but for a slightly different reason.  Consider the important
role that R2D2 plays throughout the series.  Of course, the two are a
pair, because C3PO must play the interpreter.  (Actually, one thing I
found irritating about RotJ is how well C3PO tells their story, much
to the delight of the Ewoks, byt contrary to his claim in ANH that
"I'm not much more than an interpreter, and not very good at telling
stories.  Well, not at making them interesting, anyways.")  But R2D2
is far more important from a plot point of view.  Also consider R2's
nonchalant attitude; R2 never worries about how things will turn out.
I think the force is strong with him; in fact, very strong...

- John
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From: caine@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dark Lord of the Sith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Imperial Shuttles
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:23:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bz9Hs0.733
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

>Well since X-wing (actually all Rebel fighters) have hyperspace
>capability, equiping the shuttle would seem reasonable. It was also
>fully armed too. If you notice (easier seen on the model kit) there
>are laser turrets on the front, and back. Carrying top level personel
>like the Emperor and Vader would demand the Shuttle to take on
>offensive and defensive tactics, if attacked.

Correction---> X-Wing fighters do not have hyperspace capabilities.  However,
they can be fitted with the hyperdrive engines.  As far as I know, Luke's
X-Wing is the only one with hyperdrive.  It's in the Star Wars Sourcebook
and in the Timothy Zahn books Star Wars: "Heir To The Empire" and "Dark Force 
Rising."

Caine Schneider
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From: redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick)
Subject: Re:  Favorite moments from the Trilogy
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:58:49 GMT

	Here's a bit of my favorite dialogue from ANH.

VADER: "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan; we meet again at last.
	The circle is now complete; when I left you, I was but the
	learner; now I am the master."
BEN: "Only a master of evil, Darth."
		(they fight)
VADER: "Your powers are weak, old man."
BEN: "You can't win, Darth.  If you strike me down, I shall only
	become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
VADER: "You should not have come back."

|=================================================================|
|         A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away . . . .       |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| - Josef Douglas Stremick    | "They were in the wrong place     |
|    (Just Call Me Joe)       |     at the wrong time;            |
|                             |  Naturally, they became heroes."  |
|   redrum@u.washington.edu   |         -Princess Leia Organa     |
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|                  May the Force be with you.                     |
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From: kachun@spot.Colorado.EDU (Ka Chun Yu)
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:00:10 GMT

In article <2kBoVB4w166w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us> lone@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (John Hale) writes:
>Oh, it's gotta be that grat scene in ANH in which Luke walks up on top of 
>his uncle's farm, looking away towards "Adventure & Excitement", towards 
>the twin suns setting, with "Luke's theme" playing in the backgroud. 
>Almost as moving as when he come back to a destroyed homestead. That 
>scene always makes me, a callous teenager, cry.
>"If they traced the robots here they might have found out who they sold 
>them to and that would lead them back--home."
>"Wait Luke, its TOO DANGEROUS!"                         -Lone Wolf

Yep.  That's definitely the best scene in the whole trilogy for me.  It
basically also touches subtly on many of the archetypal themes in Star
Wars:  the yearning for "Adventure & Excitement;" the whole alien universe
that the movie-goer has immersed him/herself in (can't beat a view of two
suns setting!).  The music is not Luke's theme but Ben's theme, and is also
one of the best set of bars in the first album too.  The theme is played
grandly and heroically, but is not overwhelming like it appears in the Throne
Room sequence (although I like it in the Throne Room sequence too).  


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From: mkend@cs.monash.edu.au (Michael Kend)
Subject: Star Trek : NG Toys
Summary: Need a list
Keywords: Toys
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:57:06 GMT

	Recently playmates released a new series of Star Trek : Next
Generation figures. Can somebody please e-mail me a list of all figures
released which they know or have seen released, and include in list any 
vehicles, or accessories (ie. die-cast stuff, or phasers) that have been
released or which may be released.

Cheers...

	e-mail : mkend@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:25:00 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Cool questions (was: why don't all you star wars fans get a life)
 <1g9q81INNr62@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> <Bz7H3G.1Iq@mach1.wlu.ca>
 <SS.92Dec13144047@wpi.WPI.EDU>

>
>lars4752> In TESB, who is this Hobby that Luke keeps referring to
>lars4752> during the snowspeeder scenes?  He's obviously must be a
>lars4752> pilot, but why is he cut from the film?
>
>I was another speeder pilot. He was mentioned in the script.

   You were another speeder pilot? That's amazing!

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From: k138836@cc.tut.fi (Korhonen Tommi)
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 19:08:54 GMT



>redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick) writes:

>> 
>> 	Here's a question:
>> 	What is your favorite Star Wars moments?
>> 	Like a scene, a line, a situation, etc. that you find
>> particularly appealing or meaningful.

For me it is definitely in A New Hope when the X-wings attack the 
Death Star, and when they dive into the trench for the very first time.
Oh, when the camera zooms into the trench!I get 'tremors' every time.

It isn't particularily meaningful, but so keen. It really affects me.

Other than that: all the three movies.

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From: brylowdw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Dennis W Brylow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:27:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
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In article <N8CVB116@cc.swarthmore.edu> kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu (Sean  
Kennedy) writes:
> > (Stuff about docking with Death Star deleted)
> 	I was leafing through a Star Wars book in a bookstore the other  
day
> (it was some book about the creation of Star Wars) and it mentioned that
> star destroyers were supposed to be about 6 miles long!
> 
> 			--Sean
> 			  kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu

I think that the Super Star Destroyers were about 6 miles long (8 km).
The *Imperial* class Star Destroyers were supposed to be about a fifth as  
large, around 1.6 kilometers.  (Between one and two miles long.)
Still extremely large, but still very small compared to a Death Star.

I agree with the general speculation that a Death Star could probably act  
as a dry-dock facility for large-scale repairs of Star Destroyers.
It was definately big enough.
Too bad none of them were around long enough for the Empire to try it!
:)

"Red Leader"
D. Brylow
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From: assaf@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Army of "Boba Fetts" in Clone Wars?
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:25:46 GMT

In article <92346.210351GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>, GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> A passage from TESB novelizatio, p.125
> 
> "A human bounty hunter, Fett was known for his extremely ruthless methods.
> He was dressed in a weapon-covered, armored spacesuit, the kind worn by a group
> of evil warriors defeated by the Jedi Knights during the Clone Wars."
> 
> This sounds like a piece of history pulled from Lucas' secret notes, like the
> history of Han rescuing Chewie from slavery.  If this is the case, then it
> leaves open the possibility for these characters to be in the next trilogy.
> It would obe too unbelievably cool to have a group dressed in this classic
> battle guise battle the Jedis, don't you think?  Okay, so there is only one
> "true" Fett, but maybe his origin could be told, as he obtains one of these
> rare uniforms.  Perhaps, by the third film, Vader could even wind up being a
> frequent customer to Fett's unsavory services as he might need someone to do
> the dirty work he hasn't time for in the imperial hierarchy...
> 
> It's massive speculation, but I want Fett or pseu-Fetts in the Clone Wars     n
> no matter how it's done!
> 
>                                             ---Eric
Supposedly the warriors that Fett was a member of were not bad guys at all just
him.

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