HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cfb@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Charlie Brett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-IB communications
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:47:46 GMT
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO

In comp.sys.hp, martin@skyhawk.jsc.nasa.gov (Toby Martin 283-4268) writes:


                                           I speculate that HP 'rearranged'
the signals from GP-IB to HP-IB, so the standard cable won't do.  I also
speculate that this can be cleared up with a 'special' cable.

No special cable should be required. HP-IB is what HP calls IEEE-488.
(Or should it be the other way around :-)
If the plotter is truly HPGL compatible, and the analyzer supports HPGL
plotters, it should work. If it doesn't, the analyzer could be asking
for the ID of the plotter. It might be looking for specific HP models
(ie. 9872B, 7550A, ...) because of a limited graphics driver. Check
the analyzer manual to see if there is a list of "supported" plotters.
If there is, you might want to check to see if the plotter has an emulation
mode, where it identifies itself as something supported.


            Charlie Brett - HP Ft. Collins

All opinions are my own and in no way represent Hewlett Packard ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: aaronf@fc.sde.hp.com (Aaron Friesen)
Subject: Re: ~/.Xdefaults ignored by X11R4 and X11R5 under HPUX 08.07 ?
Reply-To: aaronf@fc.hp.com
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:18:32 GMT

Harlan Stenn (PFCS Corporation) (harlan@cms-stl.com) wrote:
: On our 9000/7xx machines running HPUX 08.07 using the stock X11R4 as
: well as the X11R5 stuff (from iworks) we have noticed that the
: ~/.Xdefaults file seems to be ignored.
: 
: Has anybody else noticed this?
: 
: Is a fix available?

Are you using VUE?  If so, then you have a couple of options.  VUE
manages its X resource database, and by default does not use
~/.Xdefaults.  If you want VUE to manage these X resources, then
do:

	$ xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xdefaults

and this will merge the .Xdefaults resources into those managed by
VUE.  They will be saved automatically at the end of your session
if VUE is set up to reload the "current" session on startup.  If
you have a "home" session saved, you will need to resave.

If you do not want VUE to manage these X resources, set the
XENVIRONMENT environment variable to point to $HOME/.Xdefaults.
This must be done in ~/.vueprofile.  For sh or ksh it would
look like

	XENVIRONMENT=$HOME/.Xdefaults
	export XENVIRONMENT

As a last alternative, you can set the *resources resource.  See
vuelogin(1x) for details.  Be careful with this option.  If you
do not have things set up properly, VUE may stop working for you.

If you are not using VUE, please provide more information about
your environment.

--

Aaron

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>     I have gotten myself a HP720 with a CRX24Z card.  
> 
>     This is my problem.  I need my X Windows visual to have 256 color cells,
>     but the default visual keeps returning a visual with 255 color cells.
>     The display information is as follows:
>
>   ...
>
>   So what do I need to do to change the default visual from 0x21 to 0x20?
>   I appreciate any help given.  Thanks in advance!

For 8.07, I believe you're stuck. For HP-UX 9.0, there is an environment
variable CRX24_COUNT_TRANSPARENT_IN_OVERLAY_VISUAL to control whether
the default visual (overlay) permananently allocates a transparent pixel.
Right now, it does, so the reported colormap size is 255 rather than
256.

Once you get 9.0, look for info in /etc/newconfig/90RelNotes/hpuxsystem.

Hmmm. Strangely enough, I just did a "strings" on my 8.07-based server
and that env variable showed up. So it might be possible to get this
functionality by getting the X server patch.

			-- Chan Benson
			HP Fort Collins
			chan@fc.hp.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jsm@fc.hp.com
 (John Marvin)
Subject: Re: mmap on HP-UX 9.0 on s700
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:01:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Workstation Kernel, Ft. Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

Fran Litterio (franl@centerline.com) wrote:
: jsm@fc.hp.com (John Marvin) writes:
: 
: > Fran Litterio (franl@centerline.com) wrote:
: > : If this is so, then how is dld.sl guaranteed to be able to map the
: > : text/data of mylib.sl at the same VM address for all programs which
: > : were linked against it?
: > 
: > It doesn't. The data is mapped into the second quadrant, which is private
: > (not shared with other processes). The text is mapped into the 3rd or 4th
: > quadrant, which is shared with all processes. But when it is mapped by
: > the first process that uses it, it can be placed anywhere within the 3rd
: > or 4th quadrant.
: 
: Don't you mean "anywhere within the 3rd or 4th quadrant that isn't
: already allocated to a shared library that another process has
: mapped"?
: 
: So if libfoo.sl's text pages are mapped for the very first time by any
: process, they will not be assigned virtual addresses that are used by
: libbar.sl's text pages in another process that was started a minute
: earlier?  Even if the program that maps libfoo.sl does not map
: libbar.sl?

Yes, exactly. But the point I was trying to make was that depending on the
order of invocation of various shared libraries, a shared library can be
mapped anywhere within the 3rd or 4th quadrant.

	John Marvin
	jsm@fc
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:48:26 EST
From: <DGB4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Problems with Deskwriter driver ver. 2.2 for Mac under 7.0.1?

Does anybody know of any problems with the DeskWriter 2.2 driver and
System 7.0.1 (no tune-up) and Word 5.0? A user is getting sporadic
output. Specifically, a singe inverted S is printed sidways in the upper
left hand corner and then the page is ejected. I have reinstalled the
print driver as well as checking for viruses. The only INIT running is
Disinfectant 2.9. The printer has not malfunctioned for me but I have
watched it malfunction for the user. It appears to be random but since
the user prints on university letterhead it is becoming increasingly
expensive.Help save a tree and many headaches for me. Help!

Thanks,
dgb4@psuvm.psu.edu
From: ec@fc.hp.com (Edgar_Circenis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Problems with regcomp() and regexec()
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:35:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.BxGM76.6Dp
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

cpearce@nemesis.acs.unt.edu wrote:
> I'm currently trying to use the regular expression routines newly provided
> in HPUX 8.0. As far as I can tell, I'm using the routines properly, but
> 
>     * I'm never able to get a full-line match and
>     * Subexpressions don't seem to be behaving properly.
> 
>         if (regexec (&r1, str, r1.re_nsub, rm, NULL))
>             printf ("Mathced.\n");
>         if (regexec (&r2, str, r2.re_nsub, rm, NULL))
>             printf (Matched. sp = %x; ep = %x\n", rm [1].sp, rm [2].ep);

Well, for one thing, regexec() returns zero upon success.  Your code expects
non-zero.

Edgar Circenis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jpittas@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.pittas)
Subject: 857 clock stops on shutdown?!?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:40:11 GMT


We have noticed that the clock on our 857 does not appear to run
when the OS (HP/UX 8.02) isn't up.  After a reboot, the time seems
lag by the amount of time the system was down.  Is this considered
normal behavior?  Is it a hardware problem?  If it's due to software,
is there a patch to correct it?  Or are we stuck with this?
Help!  Thanks in advance.

John Pittas
AT&T Bell Labs
Middletown, NJ
John.Pittas@att.com
From: fatima@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Fatima Yu)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:37:01 GMT
Subject: Re: HP750 and FDDI
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

The fddistat(1M) command to read the following attributes:

MAC_Address (in canonical or native format)
UNA (UpStreamNeighbor)
RMT (Ring Management state)
CF_State (Configuration state)
Frame_Ct (Frame Count)
Receive_Ct (Frame Receive Count)
Transmit_Ct (Frame Transmit Count)
Lost_Ct (Frame Lost Count)
Error_Ct (Frame Error Count)
LER_Estimate (Link Error Rate Estimate)
T_Req (TTRT, Requested Token Request Time)
T_Neg (Negotiated Token Request Time)

The linkloop(1M) command can be used to echo frames directly
via the driver skipping the upper layer protocols. 
This command takes the frame size as one of the parameters.
From: watsong@c2000.ukpoit.co.uk (Greg Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP Omniback Turbo + alternatives
Keywords: backup
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:20:53 GMT
Organization: iT - The IT Business of the Post Office
NNTP-Posting-Host: c2000us3.c2000.ukpoit.co.uk


Does anyone have any experience with HP Omniback Turbo or any [better]
alternatives ? We have a requirement to back up a system which includes
a 15GB Ingres database. To start with we anticipate backing up the system
each week (during the 28-hour weekend service interval), but this may cease
to be an option later on.

We are already investigating the options provided by Ingres for continuous
checkpointing and the like, but one way or another the whole lot has to
be backed up safely on tape !!

The planned system comprises two HP 9000/877 machines, running HPUX 8.02,
using HP Switchover and DataPair 800. I believe that the tape drives
under consideration are four Series 6400 Model 2000DC units, each capable
of storing up to 8 GB.

Omniback Turbo looks like it does support up to four parallel backup devices
and this could be useful. The backups can be attended if necessary.

One possibility might be on-line backups, but the Omniback manual says :

"Online backups with the high-speed component of HP Omniback/Turbo can only be
performed on HP-FL (FiberLink) disks, in combination with HP DataPair/800"

But I also saw a reference in the Laserrom documentation for HP Switchover
stating that tape devices for backup could not be attached to the
highly-available host group.

15 GB isn't that big - what's the usual approach for systems of this size ?

Any ideas / feedback ? E-mail or net, I don't mind.

-- 
Greg Watson, iT, Concept 2000, 250 Farnborough Rd, Farnborough, Hants GU14 7LU
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: mmap on HP-UX 9.0 on s700
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:09:01
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.116
In-reply-to: jsm@fc.hp.com's message of Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:59:18 GMT

jsm@fc.hp.com (John Marvin) writes:

> Fran Litterio (franl@centerline.com) wrote:
> : If this is so, then how is dld.sl guaranteed to be able to map the
> : text/data of mylib.sl at the same VM address for all programs which
> : were linked against it?
> 
> It doesn't. The data is mapped into the second quadrant, which is private
> (not shared with other processes). The text is mapped into the 3rd or 4th
> quadrant, which is shared with all processes. But when it is mapped by
> the first process that uses it, it can be placed anywhere within the 3rd
> or 4th quadrant.

Don't you mean "anywhere within the 3rd or 4th quadrant that isn't
already allocated to a shared library that another process has
mapped"?

So if libfoo.sl's text pages are mapped for the very first time by any
process, they will not be assigned virtual addresses that are used by
libbar.sl's text pages in another process that was started a minute
earlier?  Even if the program that maps libfoo.sl does not map
libbar.sl?
--
franl@centerline.com   || Fran Litterio, CenterLine Software R&D
617-498-3255           || 10 Fawcett St, Cambridge, MA, USA 02138-1110
"It's not the thing you fling, it's the fling itself."  -- Chris Stevens
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ron@topaz.bds.com (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Secure telnet wanted - no shell escapes.
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:59:09 GMT
Organization: BDS Systems
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.bds.com

If you start telnet up with a SHELL environment variable set to some
impossible string, the shell escape won't work.
From: gcarter!gcarter (George Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: New to HPs...Thinking about buying one...need advice...
Keywords: pa-risc, clones, 486/586
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 21:18:38 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: SFBAC

It no longer makes any sense to buy computer systems 
hardware from Sun, HP or Next for new applications.  Very 
shortly it will be possible buy the Sun OS, the Next OS, 
Windows NT and a variety of other UNIX systems that run 
on the 486/586 platform.  Some of these are already 
available.  Only a small performance difference, if any, exists 
between the reported speed of the 586 and traditional UNIX 
platforms.  The 486 (and soon 586)  "no-name" clones are 
very cheap, reliable and are custom-built exactly to the user's 
requirements within a day or two.  Over a dozen cabinets and 
a vast array of peripheral cards are available.  When running 
DOS and Windows, an infinite variety of usually 
inexpensive software is available.  The large cost savings that 
can be accrued in buying "no-name" clones can be invested 
in HP peripherals (if you wish)  such as the LaserJet that are 
still a very good value.

George
gcarter@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bhandarkar@wrksys.enet.dec.com (Dileep Bhandarkar)
Subject: Re: New HP Workstations
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 11 NOV 92 10:15:22    


In article <HARDY.92Nov10204059@golem.ps.uci.edu>, hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes...
>Would anyone who has the information care to post details on the new
>workstations announced by HP (and Sun and DEC) today?
>--
				SPECmark89 SPECint89 SPECfp89 SPECint92 SPECfp92
DEC 10000 Model 610 AXP @200 MHz  184.14    104.52    268.60    106.54   200.36

DEC 7000 Model 610 AXP  @182 MHz  167.43     95.06    244.18     96.58   182.11

DEC 4000 Model 610 AXP  @160 MHz  136.23     83.73    188.45     83.51   143.10

DEC 3000 Model 500 AXP  @150 MHz  121.50     73.47    169.89     74.30   126.0

DEC 3000 Model 400 AXP  @133 MHz  108.14     65.80    150.6      65.32   112.2

The DEC 3000 AXP workstations are priced starting at $15K for Model 400, and 
$39K for the Model 500. The DEC 4000, 7000, and 10000 AXP servers are priced
starting at about $75K, $150K, and $300K.
From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: sendmail.cf : Mether setting?
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:18:43 GMT

Hi, 

I have carved out a sendmail.cf on my HP710 HPUX8.07 that will give me
the right routing when I use sendmail in test (-bt) mode.  However,
on trying to use it I find the ether channel (Mether) doesn't work,
and I can find no hint of logs/errors.

My Mether line (I admit it's Sun based ;-) say:

  Mether, P=[IPC], F=nsmFDMRuXC, S=21, R=21, A=IPC $h
  S21
  R$+@$+                  $@$1@$2                 address ok
  R$+                     $@$1@$J                 add local hostname

I guess the HP has some alternate version of "P=[IPC]" ??

Any hints would be gratefully received!

Cheers,
	Tim		tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: wdm@world.std.com (Wayne D Michael)
Subject: Re: Where is regcmp on HP 9000/750?
Keywords: regular expression HP
Organization: The World, via PC Pursuit from Fullerton CA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:06:40 GMT

Thanks for answering my question everyone, here is one of the answers
I recieved via. e-mail.

=====================================================

) /lib/dld.sl: Unresolved symbol: regcmp(code) from /usr/lib/Motif1.1/libXm.sl

from man regcmp:

      regcmp and regex are kept in /lib/libPW.a, and are linked by using the
      -lc and -lPW options to the ld or cc command.  See WARNINGS below.

...

 WARNINGS
      regcmp and regex are kept in /lib/libPW.a.  Unfortunately,
      /lib/libPW.a also contains some functions that have the same names as
      functions contained in the default C library, /lib/libc.a.  To prevent
      unexpected results due to these name conflicts, always search libc
      before searching libPW.  This is done with the ld (or cc) command line
      option sequence -lc -lPW which satisifies all standard C functions
      from libc then searches libPW for the regcmp and regex functions
      (there is also an implied -lc following the explicit -lPW to satisfy
      any additional C functions required by regcmp and regex).

      User programs that use regcmp might run out of memory if regcmp is
      called iteratively without freeing vectors that are no longer
      required.


								-andre.

---
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Neurophysiology   :	If my employer knew that I expressed opinions, not
Children's Hosp.  :	only would they disavow knowledge that I had them,
andre@cs.pitt.edu :	but they would deny that I existed, just in case.

-- 
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wdm@world.std.com
From: hstroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Howard Stroyan)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:03:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Changing Default Visual
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, kevin@iti.gov.sg (Kevin Patt (SE)) writes:

> Hi,
> 
>     I have gotten myself a HP720 with a CRX24Z card.  
> 
>     This is my problem.  I need my X Windows visual to have 256 color cells,
>     but the default visual keeps returning a visual with 255 color cells.
>     The display information is as follows:
...
>   default number of colormap cells:    255

>   So what do I need to do to change the default visual from 0x21 to 0x20?
>   I appreciate any help given.  Thanks in advance!

For the moment there is no ways to change the default visual on a CRX24.
The default shows 255 colors because it is in the overlay planes and
the 256th color is reserved for transparency.  This is needed to see
through into the image planes.  We are looking at adding a way to 
redirect the overlay visual in the future.

For now there are a couple of things that can be done.

1st) consider using a non-default visual.  Of course this only is
	 possible if you have control of the source code or the code was
	 written to offer this functionality.

2nd) There is a method available to override the 255 entries and have the
	 server report 256 available, BUT the 256th entry (index 255) will
	 remain hardwired to transparent.  This may or may not be useful,
	 depending on whether you really need to use that cell, or if the
	 application is just stubborn about thinking that 8 bits must mean
	 256 colors.  To activate this override export the environment 
	 variable "CRX24_COUNT_TRANSPARENT_IN_OVERLAY_VISUAL=TRUE" in the
	 shell where X is started.  For VUE 2.0 you can place the following
	 entry in the "/usr/lib/X11/vue/Vuelogin/Xconfig": 

	 Vuelogin*environment: CRX24_COUNT_TRANSPARENT_IN_OVERLAY_VISUAL=TRUE

     For VUE 3.0 this file has moved to /usr/vue/config/Xconfig.

--
Howard Stroyan                                         
Hewlett-Packard                                        hstroyan@fc.hp.com
User Interface Technology Division
From: hurf@boa.graphics.cornell.edu (Hurf Sheldon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How is the VUE backdrop set?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 19:56:17 GMT
Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: boa.graphics.cornell.edu
Keywords: VueBackdrop CRX24 xsetroot transparent

This is all on an 8.07 CRX24-Z - I believe it will work on a TVRX-T4 as well:

xrdb -query >text
edit text to:
Vuewm*HighResHighColor*Four*backdrop*image:     none
	      	       ^^^
	       'room' number or name 
xrdb -merge text
restart vuewm by clicking right mouse button with cursor on backdrop
	and selecting 'restart vuewm'
xsetroot -bitmap bitmap.file Or what ever you want  - one of our students
	hacked xsetroot to set transparent - is there another way to do that?
	It doesn't work in all circumstances.


-- 
     Hurf Sheldon			 Network: hurf@graphics.cornell.edu
     Program of Computer Graphics	 Phone:   607 255 6713

     580 Eng. Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. 14853  
     
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From: wagnermi@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Wagner Michael)
Subject: cut,copy,paste buffersize
Originator: wagnermi@hpschlichter2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:57:09 GMT


Sorry if this is a FAQ, but how can I increase the size of the cut/copy/paste
buffer under HP-UX 8.0.7. I tried to locate something on that in the manuals
but no luck.
Any ideas ?

:-)	
	Mike

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From: sieler@shell.portal.com (Stan Sieler)
Subject: Re: ramdisc on HP9000 ???
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:33:18 GMT

bnadon@hpfcse.HP.COM (Benoit Nadon) writes:
: does someone knows how to setup a ramdisc on HP9000 systems.I found a ramdisc
: driver on my HP9000/350 running HP-UX 8.0 but no instruction or man pages on
: how to set it up.
: 
: Can this be done on a series 800 as well (HP9000/867 running HP-UX 8.02).

I don't know about any (unsupported?) ram disc from HP, but you can contact
Kelly Computer Systems at (415) 960-1010 for one for most 8xx and 7xx
9000s.  I don't know if they provide it separately, but they do bundle
it with their memory boards.

stan sieler
sieler@allegro.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: chuckc@fc.hp.com (Chuck Cairns)
Subject: Re: Datebook problems
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:14:07 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.6 PL6]

Mike Goss (goss@CS.ColoState.EDU) wrote:
..
: problems as on the 720.  Any ideas anyone?

 Hmmm. Have you looked for different app-defaults between the two
 systems. Has he tries datebook on your machine. If you are using 
 VUE then you need to update xrdb after modifying .Xdefaults.

 Good luck,
 cc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: Hendrik.Klompmaker@beheer.zod.wau.nl (<Hendrik Klompmaker>)
Subject: Programming problems
Keywords: X11, F77
Organization: Wageningen Agricultural University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:47:15 GMT

Hi,

We have a little problem while running a 120Mb fortran on our 730 with 128Mb 
of ram. The program crashes in a coredump with 'segmentation violation'. If 
we decrease the size of the program a little (20 Mb) it will run. Any idea 
why this problem occurs and what to do about it except decreasing the size 
of the program.

The next problem has to do with X11. I downloaded some files like xdaliclock 
and tried to compile them. The X11.h files are on the usr/include/X11R4/X11 
directory but while compiling they cannot be found. I'm new to C programming 
so don't know how to solve this problem.

Any hints will help.

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