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From: amorgan@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Questions for Kiwisclo
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:44:00 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep27.225925.16423@wetware.com>, hellcat@wetware.com (HellQat) writes:
> 
> 3.  Somebody posted recently that speedo swimsuits are NOT cool
>     beachwear.  Does that go for svelte nordic females as well?  ;-)


I think that svelte nordic female bods in speedos would be drooled over.!!! 

The original tip was actually directed at culturally-sensitive males (ie ones 
that don't want to be laughed at by our culture :-).

As for NZers' attitudes to 'a la nude' - if you really want to get skin cancer 
in unmentionable places then go for it!!! B-)

Morgy.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Subject: Re: What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:38:59 GMT

In article <BvD9Ao.AE0@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> cree@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Michael Cree) writes:
>
>However the content of NZ TV is indeed rubbish (and that's being nice).
>

I get the impression you haven't been subjected to American TV, so as to
put that above statement in it's appropriate comparative context.

Andrew


QUIT


Andrew


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From: desilva@ee.tamu.edu (Buveneka K Desilva)
Subject: To contact the NZ Embassy in USA
Organization: Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:52:07 GMT

Hi Netters,

I need to obtain the Address and phone # of the NZ Embassy in USA and/or the
the Consulate in Texas. I would appreciate if any person who could provide this
information to e-mail it to me. Thank you in advance

Kanishka deSilva
(desilva@ee.tamu.edu)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: paul@ecpdstea.cern.ch (Paul Burkimsher)
Subject: Re: Questions for Kiwis
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:50:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.225925.16423@wetware.com>, hellcat@wetware.com (HellQat) writes:
> 
> 
> 1.  Are there any good places to rent bicycles for touring around
>     town?  (I have bad feet and prefer riding to walking, but thrive
>     on exercise) Any information about this would be GREATLY appreciated.
> 
The Youth Hostel in Rotorua had bikes for rent when we were there.
(BTW the Youth hostel itself was very comfy with family rooms too.)

> 
> 3.  Somebody posted recently that speedo swimsuits are NOT cool
>     beachwear.
Hmm. Can someone summarise the prevailing attitude a la "rec.nude" in NZ?
I had always thought that there were nude sections tolerated at the ends of most beaches (ie away from the parking lot.)

Paul
---------------

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European Laboratory for Particle Physics,
CERN
CH-1211 Geneva 23
Switzerland

Tel: +41-22-767-4915
Fax: +41-22-767-3900

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From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Otago dies on the field
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:45:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: csc.1992Oct7.084555.1
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Oct6.151938.11248@waikato.ac.nz>, jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> 	Glad I wasn't crucified on the net,  I highlight the sin-binning of
> Richard Loe to point out that a great many Waikato supporters particularly
> dislike Loe.

Errummm - The Waikato captain who was sin-binned is John Mitchell. Richard Loe
stopped being the Waikato captain after he complained about his players
committment in a game against Canterbury a couple of years ago.

Alan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
From: mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       )
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:28:51 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

>However the content of NZ TV is indeed rubbish (and that's being nice).

As compared to what?? It may be rubbish but it's a collection of the best
rubbish from around the world. I've watched TV in a fair number of countries
and I wouldn't be complaining if I were you. So we need more cable stations.
It's not THAT bad, really.

>: Paul

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Michael Cree                              Gold there is
>cree@elec.canterbury.ac.nz                 and rubies in abundance;
>                                          But lips that speak knowledge
>                                           are a rare jewel. (Prov 20:15)
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

later, Matt.
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From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Otago dies on the field
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:28:38 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

For the benefit of ex-pats who will otherwise miss out on such brilliant
news,  the following should be made known to all...

After momentarily scaring the world in a fanatastic game against North 
Harbour last Saturday,  the Otago rugby team came back to earth with
a thump that broke the richter scale.  

Foolishly thinking the plane trip was warranted in the face of such an 
obvious defeat, the Otago team ventured north to do battle with the
mighty Waikato team who had just given Ranfurly Sheild holders Auckland
a clever beating.  

And thus the Otago team found itself wishing it could all quit the team
as Mike Brewer was planning to do...

Waikato 40
Otago 5 (yes you read that right)

Jonathan (I make every apology for a ridiculous display of gloating and
testesterone-induced macho lunacy at the result of such an over-rated,
over-promoted sport,  but,  what the heck,  it's fun!)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: paul@dxcern.cern.ch (Paul Burkimsher)
Subject: What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 07:40:16 GMT

What's the situation re bringing in "foreign" TVs?
What standard is NZ broadcasting? (ie technical, 
don't just say "great or rubbish"!)   ;-)

Is all TV transmission domestic, or are there any
satellites hovering over there? What do they carry?

Many thanks,

Paul

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Paul Burkimsher
European Laboratory for Particle Physics,
CERN
CH-1211 Geneva 23
Switzerland

Tel: +41-22-767-4915
Fax: +41-22-767-3900

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Having a Kiwi party in Urbana, IL
From: pete@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (cantua)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:02:22 GMT
Reply-To: pete@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand.

From article <1992Sep29.132016.12193@dxcern.cern.ch>, by paul@ecpdstea.cern.ch (Paul Burkimsher):
> 
> Subnodes
> ========
> canterbury.ac.. cosc: kinetics
>                 elec: stargate (Electronic & Elec. Eng. Dept)
>                 geog: fish, sky (Geography Dept)
>                 mech: ken_pn (Mechanical Engineering)
>                 phys: maxwell
>                 other: cantua, cantva, cantsc, csc, cosc, einstein,
>                        geog, huia, math, phys, ruru, tete, whio
From the point of view of the Computer science department, This is wrong

The "machine" kinetics is a kinetics bridge and is no longer used
(You would never have been able to mail or telnet to it anyway)

Mail is set up at our university such that you can mail to departments
and not need to know any of the machine names.
Mail to machine names within that department MAY work but probably will
fail. (Either way -- it is not a good idea to depend on it)

canterbury.ac.nz
		cosc: (Computer Science department)
		math: (Mathematics department)
		csc:  (Computer Services centre - other mail users who 
				don't have a department mail machine)
		phys: (Physics department)
		elec: (Electronic & Elec. Eng. Dept)
		mech: (Mechanical Engineering Dept)
		civl: (Civil Eng department)
		chem: (Chemistry department)
		chen: (Chemical Engineering Department)
		geog: (Geography Department)
		accy: (Accountancy Department)
		blds: (Buildings - Registry)
		laws: (Law Department)

To find out a name (for staff and postgrads at least) you should be able
to connect to the WHOIS server using the following command
	whois -h cantsc.canterbury.ac.nz "some name"

Pete


Peter Glassenbury			Computer Science dept.
pete@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz		University of Canterbury
					New Zealand
--
Peter Glassenbury			Computer Science dept.
pete@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz		University of Canterbury
					New Zealand
From: hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Questions for Kiwis
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:55:37 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Sep29.165042.27133@dxcern.cern.ch> paul@ecpdstea.cern.ch (Paul Burkimsher) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.225925.16423@wetware.com>, hellcat@wetware.com (HellQat) writes:
>> 3.  Somebody posted recently that speedo swimsuits are NOT cool
>>     beachwear.
>Hmm. Can someone summarise the prevailing attitude a la "rec.nude" in NZ?
>I had always thought that there were nude sections tolerated at the ends of most beaches (ie away from the parking lot.)

I don't know about the rest of the country, but in Auckland topless sunbathing
is common and accepted on most beaches (I can't actually think of any
exceptions).  Nude bathing seems to be generally restricted to a few
secluded beaches, often a short walk around the rocks from the popular ones.

>Paul

-- 
Hugh Grierson          Fujitsu/ICL New Zealand - Software Development Centre
hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz                Speaking for myself only.  See figure 1.
I'm a masochist -- I like a cold shower in the morning, so I take a hot one.
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From: lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood)
Subject: Re: What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:40:20 GMT

slang@waikato.ac.nz writes:

>I beleive that there are two different versions of PAL, namely PAL B and PAL G.
>SECAM is reasonably close, but not quite. NTSC (Never Twice the Same Colour) has
>at least the two variations 3.something and 4.43 (I think.) Maybee the type of
>PAL transmission is subtly different between what is sold in britain and here?

Australia and New Zealand use PAL system B & G.
The only difference between system B and System G is the channel spacing.
In system B, the channels are 7 Mhz apart, whereas in system G, they are 8
Mhz apart.  Other aspects of the systems are identical (I'll check this tonight
and if necessary, post corrections tomorrow).

System B is used on the VHF band, whereas system G is used on the UHF band.
However, in Australia (don't know about NZ), system B is also used on the 
UHF band, but the transmitted signal is the same anyway, so it doesn't
really matter.

PAL system B & G are also used in continental Western Europe (except for France)
and in some middle Eastern (eg. Israel and Jordan), Asian (eg. Singapore,
Malaysia, Thailand) and African countries.

PAL system I has a different audio/video frequency separation to PAL system
B & G, and is used in the UK, Ireland, South Africa, Hong Kong, and (I think)
Macau.

There is also a PAL System N used in parts of South America.

Video tapes recorded using PAL system B, G & I are interchangeable.  Don't
know about PAL System N though.

>It shouldn't matter with a good TV, it should be able to handle the differences.

There are multi-standard TV's available which will receive them all.

Hope this helps.

Liron Lightwood                     Internet : r.lightwood@trl.oz.au
Telecom Research Laboratories       Phone : +61 3 253 6535
770 Blackburn Road                  Snail : P.O. Box 249 Clayton 3168 Australia
Clayton  Vic. 3168 Australia        Disclaimer : My views are not my company's
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: eagor@cix.compulink.co.uk (Darren Bird)
Subject: E-mail friends
Reply-To: eagor@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:04:12 +0000

To all

  Would anybody outside of england like to correspond with
  someone  namely me ?

  I am new to the world of email and find it all fasinating

  Thanks

    Darren   London England
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Questions for Kiwis
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:36:42 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep30.212341.7652@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
> In article <60768@mimsy.umd.edu> moir@cs.umd.edu (Mark Moir) writes:
>>
>>Seriously, watch out for sunburn.  The amount of damaging UV that makes it
>>through our nice clean air, is a lot (44%) higher than similar latitudes
>>in the northen hemishpere.  Hope you enjoy your visit.
> 
> Be careful out there in the sun.  You can get very sunburnt on a cloudy day
> (believe it - I didn't and learned the hard way).  Be especially careful 
> of those 'sensitive' little places if you find one of the nudist beaches....
> -- 
> Derek Tearne.

	He's so right. When I cycle toured around the Coromandel a few years
back in January,  I met a lot of very red and uncomfortable Germans,  Swedes
(no jokes please),  and even a pom who had to ride in a full track-suit to
keep the sun off - in 26 degrees!  They just blistered after a day.  
	Photographers also note the clarity of our air.  I know of a very
experienced British photographer who had so much experience in the north he
stopped using a light-meter.  All his photos in New Zealand came out over-
exposed.
	Jonathan.
From: mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:06:33 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Oct1.220112.28098@massey.ac.nz>, D.Burns@massey.ac.nz (David Burns) writes:
> The evaluation of NZ television programmes as rubbish is clearly within a
> comparative context.  What the amerikans couldn't accomplish with their 
> ecomomic and military big stick they are now achieving through the cultural
> imperialism of television.  The sad part is that as viewers we have meekly
> allowed it to happen, and to continue.  While many countries are sensitivity 
> to the dumping of consumer goods at below production costs, the same concerns 
> don't seem to apply to the dumping of mind numbing garbage.  There seems to
> be an irony here in that the anti-pornography/nudity/violence groups will jump
> up and down and spend large sums of money trying to control what people are not 
> allowed to view without the slightest concern that what is permitted will soon 
> undermine everyones ability to distinguish between quality and mediocrity or
> important and trivial.  Rubbish and more rubbish and most of it from the folks
> that spoon fed us the fifteen second segments of Desert Storm.
> 
> -- 
> /-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-\
> /     David Burns, Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand     \
> /`We can never truly know the path we have not walked.' (G.G.Kay,Tigana)\
> /-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-\
I'm a Kiwi currently living in the U.S. and I returned to N.Z. in 
January for a couple of months.  It's clear where you get your opinion 
of U.S. TV from - N.Z. imports the worst of all possible shows.  
Hilariously enough, "Married with Children" was assessed by a N.Z. 
reviewer as being a bold and innovative show that is daring and 
provocative.  So I find it hard to believe that the U.S. forces this 
stuff on N.Z. in any way.  I've just finished watching the PBS series 
on the Kennedies - is TVNZ buying that?  How about The Civil War 
series?  There *is* quality programming available in the U.S. but it 
does require some viewer discrimination (correction: * a lot* of 
viewer discrimination) and this tactic of blaming the producer because 
the viewer does not have the backbone to make his/her own choices is 
pretty shoddy.  Is the irony of your final quote intentional?  You 
certainly don't know the path you haven't walked.  Still, easier to 
blame the U.S. than admit that people actually like what you consider 
to be mindless programming (I consider it that, too, but I'm not 
willing to impose that judgement on others.)  One final note: 
certainly the worst television show I saw in N.Z. and perhaps the 
worst I've seen anywhere, was "Holmes" but I'm sure the U.S. is 
responsible for that too, somehow?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: cook@barleywine.atd.ucar.edu (Forrest Cook)
Subject: Re: What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:16:41 GMT

In article <3o48RB4w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:
>If the info I have on South American TV is correct, PAL N is a modified
>version of NTSC.
...

This discussion wouldn't be complete
without mentioning that
NTSC means "Never Twice the Same Colo(u)r"

:-) :-)

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From: s897279@otto (Buck YEO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Travel advice on NZ
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:19:52 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au

My friend and I are planning on a trip to NZ in December.  However we have got
no information on the places of interest in NZ.  Therefore we hope someone
could provide us with some information.
(We are from Australia and have only 10 days to spend in NZ)

All information is welcome.  Thank you.



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From: hellcat@wetware.com (HellQat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Questions for Kiwis
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:59:25 GMT
Organization: Castle Wetware SemiResident TroubleMaker


Greetings, Kiwis!

My fiance and I will be in New Zealand for three weeks in late
October - early November, and we are restricting our stay to the
North Island (this time around) so we can relax and get to know
your beautiful country at a leisurely pace.  We plan to stay at
a couple of places for several days, namely the Bay of Islands and
Rotorua, (and Auckland, of course) with possible side trips.  We
thot that maybe you all might have some suggestions for us on
the following items:

1.  Are there any good places to rent bicycles for touring around
    town?  (I have bad feet and prefer riding to walking, but thrive
    on exercise) Any information about this would be GREATLY appreciated.

2.  Can anyone give me information on traditional Maori wedding
    ceremonies?  Are foreigners allowed to participate?  We're
    thinking about getting married Maori style, but we don't know
    anything about it as of yet, or if it would even be possible.
    Of course we wouldn't even attempt it if the concept is taboo.
    We don't want to step on anyone's toes! 

3.  Somebody posted recently that speedo swimsuits are NOT cool
    beachwear.  Does that go for svelte nordic females as well?  ;-)

Thanks in advance!

      HellQat
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From: vere@netcom.com (Steven Vere)
Subject: Fiji Information
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:03:37 GMT

   Thanks to  everyone for the responses to my request for information
about living  in  Fiji.   After  discussing it with   my wife,  I have
decided not to  apply for a  job there,  since it sounded a little too
adventurous for a middle aged couple with a small child.
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From: desilva@ee.tamu.edu (Buveneka K Desilva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: To contact the NZ embassy in USA
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:37:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Oct6.183720.10328
Organization: Texas A&M University

Hi Netters,

I need to find the address and phone # of the NZ Embassy in USA or the consulatein Texas. I would appreciate if any person who has this info to send it to me by E-mail. Thanks in advance,

- Kanishka deSilva
From: fernandon@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Inquiry about migration(Community Sponsor)
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:03:18 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia



Community Sponsor  (In Migration Application Form)
*****************

Could somebody explain the following questiones which were arised
after reading the information leaflet for migration (Residence Visa) under 
General Catagory
       1. What type of Organisations could be Community Sponsors?

       2. How can one would make sure whether their group/Orgn.
          is eligible to be a Community Sponsor?

       3. What are the responsibilities if an Organisation would become
          a community sponsor for an individual?

Nilupa Fernando
                E_Mail Add:  fernandon.topaz.ucq.edu.au
From: slang@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: What is NZ TV? NTSC? PAL? SECAM
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:02:10 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

> N.Z. uses a PAL system.  Don't know if you can directly import a British 
> TV and expect it to work though.  My mothers video camera required some
> tweaking before we (succesfully) got a picture.  There was a specific setting
> for this part of the world so I suspect some subtle differences in the 
> standard.  

I beleive that there are two different versions of PAL, namely PAL B and PAL G.
SECAM is reasonably close, but not quite. NTSC (Never Twice the Same Colour) has
at least the two variations 3.something and 4.43 (I think.) Maybee the type of
PAL transmission is subtly different between what is sold in britain and here?

It shouldn't matter with a good TV, it should be able to handle the differences.

Cheers -

	   Drink is the curse		Steve Lang
	of the working class man	Systems Programmer Analyst
	Work is the curse of the	University of Waikato
	   Drinking class man		Hamilton
					NEW ZEALAND
					<slang@waikato.ac.nz>
					Ph	+64-7-856 2889 Ext 8341
					Fax	+64-7-838 4066

I am not responsible for my employers opinion (thank heavens,) and neither are
they for mine.

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