From: mahin@reg.triumf.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: We all fall down...(woman to woman)
Date: 13 Oct 1992 17:34 PDT
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In article <1992Oct13.173149.21320@athena.mit.edu>, nsohrabi@athena.mit.edu (Naghmeh Sohrabi) writes...
> 
>Hello Everyone.
>I remember the first time I found out about SCI, I was so psyched.  Here was a
>forum where I could get to discuss things with other people, mostly Iranians on
>issues related to Iran.  Something that I can't normally do here and in Iran.  
>I remember I would take most things written seriously and try to give my real
>reaction to it.  Now it cracks me up that I actually took the Salman
>Rushdie articles seriously and answered them!
> 
>I don't know if it's me, or the general way Iranian societies tend to create
>apathy in people, but now, all the discussions on SCI just make me laugh.  I
>mean, c'mon, we have two people insulting each other back and forth because they
>don't agree on a probability question, a question that's being discussed in
>academic communities for some time now.  If everyone was gonna react like they did,
>we'd have as many world wars as we have math problems.
>Then we have "jokes" asking people why they're polite to each other.
>Then people "discussing" the existence of God while they're actually practicing
>how many sexual slurs they can make in one posting.  
>Then we have people congratulating others for bombing a tomb.
>Of course let's not forget the ones not allowed to make spelling mistakes if
>they follow a certain ideological creed.
>Then we have others putting up dance shows for other people on the net in their
>ghahveh khouneh.
>Then others who get all upset if you make a sexist remark (not that it stops
>anyone mind you.) (I had to fit myself in there somehow!)
>And you can add anything else to the list.
> 
>Don't you feel there's something wrong with us?  Is this the only way we can
>waste our time?  Can't we do it in a better way?
>I am aware (for those who are going to attack me) that I have a choice to
>subscribe to SCI or not, and if I don't like it, I can just not read it anymore.
>But what if I do like it, but in a different, more reasonable format?
> 
>It's hard to read the recent articles on SCI and think that these are the
>supposedly "intellectuals" and "elite" of the Iranian immigrant community.
> 
>Sincerely,
>Naghmeh.

It's pretty sad, isn't it, Naghmeh jaan?  (no, I'm not trying to marry you
either.:-))  Yes, this is the way it is and you can't do much about.  I mean
what do you about that one new airhead, what's his name, Ali something?
He's a classic joojeh.  I don't know, Naghmeh, but it seems the more fanatic
they are the more sexually disturbed they are.  Tell me, when you were in Iran
were they as bad there as they are here on sci?  

This religion of theirs seems to have screwed the hell out of them somehow.
This sexual complex they have is unreal but I must say, it is amusing.:-)
It was funny, first the first two joojehs, must have been zafar
and Seyyed joon, *wink*wink*,:-) try to intimidate me by calling me names
like little kids.  They couldn't answer my questions about God so they 
thought this would shut me up.  No luck, Seyyed then tries to set me up with
with Sharokh M. and that was supposed to shut me up, don't ask me how.*laugh*
Somehow getting married to people is supposed to be embarrassing, don't ask
me why.*laugh*  It's part of Seyyed's Funny Logic.:-)
oh, and his last desparate attempt was just a masterpiece. And Lorne King,
I hope you're reading this.  This guy *laugh* he gets excited cuz I refer to
him as Seyyed joon or dear Seyyed.  I'm afraid to send him email, he might
get an orgasm.*laugh*  

oh, what a pity. I really feel sorry for these boys.  I mean, not only are they
making fools of themselves, as you can see by the replies they have been
receiving, but they are also revealing the negative effects of Islam, making
my job easier.:-) But you know Naghmeh, moslems are not the only ones with this
problem.  Lately they have been prosecuting priests for child mollestation(sp?)
up here in Canada and it's been a real blow to Christianity.  Well, that's
what happens when religion/culture has hangups about sex.  Here in North
America a woman's bare breast is considered indecent exposure, harmful to the
society, yet the same woman getting blown apart is considered normal, and they
wonder about the high rate of murder and rape. *sigh*sigh* It's too bad they
don't learn from the Europeans.  The other day I was talking to a Danish guy
and he said he hadn't heard of rape until he came to good ol' U S of A.

Getting back to sci and its sexual problems among others, well, Naghmeh joon
all I can suggest is positive criticism with much patience, although it's hard 
when you're dealing with eyerainian joojehs.  It's a very deeply rooted problem
and won't be solved overnight or with a couple of articles here and there.  
But I think a few of them are starting to realize their hangups, even though
they won't admit it.  I have noticed that they do have an ego problem as well.
I mean at the beginning of all this all I asked was a few question and all they
had to do was to say "I don't know".  *shaking my head in sorrow* The male
ego and it's after shocks.

patiently waiting for God, or a stimulating article to read, whichever comes
first,


Mahin      
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