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Subject:      Sympathy and praise for EFF
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This came over PACS-L yesterday.         --brad

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Subject:  recent EFF announcement

I'd like to add a note of sympathy and encouragement to the EFF's
recent announcement of bloodletting, donning-of-neckties, and move-
to-within-the-Beltway. One of the great hopes which Clinton's
presidency carries for libraries and information networkers is the
influence that Vice President Al Gore and CEA chair Laura Tyson now
will have in hi-tech policy. EFF, and Mitch Kapor personally, have
an opportunity -- an obligation, I think -- to represent all of us
there now with their intelligent, articulate, and responsible views
on telecommunications policy and the National Public Network.

It is too bad that the legal end of EFF's previous concerns may get
neglected for a bit. Policy is more important, though: Clinton-
Gore-Tyson, and Kapor-EFF, have an opportunity now to write the
laws which will govern the rest of us in telecommunications and
networking for the next several decades. I personally welcome EFF's
decision to focus its primary attention on that formidable job.

Jack Kessler

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Subject:      Re: Asians

>Sutras are generally transliterated into Chinese--at least, that is
>my very imperfect understanding.  But they are in Sanskrit.

I thought Buddhist sutras were in Pali, not Sanskrit.

tushar
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: Inauguration
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On Wed, 20 Jan 1993, G wrote:

>         Dan Rather's hard-on was full-(ahem)blown.
>
> To Harwell, that's <half-hearted>...

Don't call me Harwell!

-abh
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      SeaWaspBake '94
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>  No, can't forsake my native soil.  But I wouldn't mind visiting.
>  Say for SeaWaspBake '94.
>
>  brad

I don't recommend that we bake any box jellyfish..... they're further north
from here, but a Lake cruise on one of our floating restaurants might be able
to be arranged followed the next night by a typical Aussie backyard barbie.
Speaking of barbecues, have you heard that Tooheys are planning the World's
Biggest Barbecue for October 13th to be held at Darling Harbour in Sydney?
They are anticipating that more than a million people will attend. I think
I'll just sit at home and watch it on TV. :-)

Carolyn
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's Sport/Leisure Question
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> Gilbert, I ftped your response but then inadvertently deleted it... I thought
> "oh well, I'll be able to pick it up in netnews" but it wasn't there either.:-
> Fortunately I remembered that your answer was Lyndon Baines Johnson and that
> was indeed correct..... so onto Sport/Leisure.
>
I am really *hot* now!  I can hear everyone pulling for me.  The
roar of the crowd is deafening!!!!!
.
> "What's the highest city to have hosted the Summer Olympics?"
> Answer correctly and you will also be in the lead with Mka and Brad, but you
> will need to roll a 2 in Round 5 to have a chance of winning.
>
> Carolyn
>
This is too funny.  I keep guessing and guessing and now I have
to admit that I don't know.  This *must* be Denver or Mexico City.
I am going to guess:
          *MEXICO CITY*
and if that is correct I'll take a roll of 2 on the dice.
And if that is wrong, and MC never hosted the Summer Olympics, then
that just shows that I never paid much attention.
.
--ggs
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Subject:      a cup, a cup,a cup, a cup, a cup. Ahhhhh!

This was given to me by a friend. I'm sorry I don't know the
source , other that the single line "A handbill in the British
Museum"
       Br Paul
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
THE NEW DRINK, COFFEE, FIRST OFFERED IN ENGLAND BY PASQUA ROSEE
1652

   The grain or berry called coffee groweth upon little trees only
in the deserts of Arabia. It is brought from thence and drunk
generally throughout the Grand Seignour's dominions.  It is a simple
innocent thing, composed in a drink, by being dried in an oven and
ground to a powder, and boiled up with spring water, and about half
a pint of it to be drunk, fasting an hour before and not eating an
hour after, and to be taken as hot as can possibly be endured...
    It much quickens the spirits and makes the heart lightsome; it
is good against sore eyes, and the better if you hold your head
over it and take in the steam that way.  It suppresseth fumes
exceedingly, and is therefore good against the headache... It is
excellent to prevent and cure the dropsy, gout, and scurvy. It is
known by experience to be better than any other drying drink for
people in years, or children... It will prevent drowsiness, and
make one fit for business, if one have occasion to watch, and
therefore you are not to drink of it after supper, unless you
intend to be watchful, for it will hinder sleep.
     It is observed that in Turkey, where this is generally drunk,
that they are not troubled with the stone, gout, dropsy, or scurvy,
and that their skins are exceedingly clear and white.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:26:37 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bye for now
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              Jan 25, 93 7:58 am

> > > Well, to quote a certain musician,
> > > I'm orf. See you Thurs. eve.
>
> >Just don't go into haydn.
> >
> Don't worry.  He'll be bach.

Has he gone chopin?  (And didn't we do this on the liszt recently?)

-rashmi

> Chris
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Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> How about voting?  All in favor of Portland?  All in favor of NC?
> Write-ins?

One vote from me for Portland. And, Natalie, where's my .gif for Shirt v.1.1?

-abh
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Harwell's Mordant Humour
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              27 Jan 1993 10:13:00 EST from <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>

On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:13:00 EST gilbertsmith said:
>>
>> > Comments: I love the new shrimp combo basket but wish there were more
>> french fries. Also, the waitress was rude and didn't bring me enough tea
>> refills. Overall, I would recommend this place to my friends.
>>
>> -abh
>
>There are *some* wordslers who might be considered expendable for a
>successful clambake/event....  but if -abh is not coming, we might as
>well <call the whole thing off>....
>I can't stop laughing.

I know; it's lightened my mood this morning.  Thanks, -abh!

>--ggs (of the ABHAS)

Evelyn
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: pinafores, jumpers, sweaters
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:55:38 GMT
Organization: nope


In my lexicon, a pinafore is a sort of overgrown apron: One puts it on
over a complete dress (or, less often, over a blouse-and-skirt).

A jumper is a more substantial overdress: one wears it over a blouse or 
sweater.  some are designed (with appropriately sized armholes) so they 
may also be worn without a blouse or sweater.

A sweater may be either a cardigan (open/buttoned in front) or a 
"pullover".  Although it may be longish, it's considered the top part
of one's clothes, and calls for pants, shorts, skirt, or equiv.

Sweaters are always knitted, either from wool or other yarn.

In the bad old days, if I didn't pluck my eyebrows, I'd get teased
about being a werewolf.  Somehow, no matter how hard I tried, I always
was teased about -something-.  BAD old days! :-(

--bayla



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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Maya's poem
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:08:49 GMT

>Glass of milk,
>Stands between extinction in the cold and explosive radiating growth.
>And the warm blood flows through the large four-chambered heart,
>Maintaining the very high metabolism rate they have.
>
>[And how many recognize it?]

 Brad> Could we get closure on this challenge from Chris Davis?
 Brad> Who is the poet and what is the poem?

Geez, only one nibble on the bait; everyone else went off talking about
Tyrannosaur pooper-scoopers and whatnot.  I should let you suffer.
--
 * Christopher Davis * <ckd@eff.org> * <ckd@kei.com> * [CKD1] * MIME * RIPEM *
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Anything but what was here.
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:46:06 GMT

In article <9301142101.AA26275@Ra.MsState.Edu> Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU> writes:

>How about Mississippi?  As far as I know, there are no internet providers
>of that kind.  You could start a dog-care service on the side.

	I'd probably hate the heat, but I did work as a dog groomer
and travelled some of the dog-show circuit as a teenager.

Rita



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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:55:00 EST
From:         AYC3@NCH08A.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      WORDS-L TP: Anjani's History Question
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>>Now for History:

>>"What year was the Berlin Wall erected?"

    Darn!  Ignorance must again rear its ugly head.  I will say 1945.

>>You have the choice of Sport/Leisure or Science/Nature if you know this one.
>>Otherwise you can proceed straight into your round 4 turn which means that
>>you will probably have another chance at a History question or any of the
>>others that you haven't already answered correctly.

    On the 0.001% chance that I'm right, I pick Science/Nature next.
Otherwise, I guess I wait for my Round 4 turn.

    --Anjani Chandra
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:10:04 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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> while they're here, I think.  The only way that I *might* be able to make
> it is if it's held in Toronto.  We'll be going there anyway and I might be
> able to work in Bake'93 into the schedule.

I had already been thinking that Toronto might be a good compromise choice.
It's cold enough for the cold-lovers (and those of us who are heat-lovers
don't mind being cold once in a while because it makes us better appreciate
coming home).  It's east enough to be sort of east but is far enough west
to be not really east -- well, sort of anyway...  It's got sights for those
seeking sights.  It's got bookstores.  Etc.  I like the Toronto idea.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 11:06:48 by Natalie Maynor
>> This is the ATLANTIC OCEAN, Natalie--I'm not sure it's ever warm enough
>> to swim.
>Huh?  My Piscean body has spent many hours in the Atlantic Ocean through
>the years.

The Northern Atlantic Ocean is always cold.  I guess I was thinking in
particular, though, of the chances of survival in a shipwreck in various
oceans.  The Northern Atlantic is terrible--even in summer, I don't think
the survival time is more than a few hours because the water temperature
is so cold.

Karen
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:29:48 +0000
From:         Adrian Hall <adrian@DOROTHY.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Yet Another Holiday Report
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              "LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU" at Jan 25, 93 07:40:18 pm

> Have you been mumbling then or am I getting hard of hearing?

If I posted my mutterings to every post on this list, it would
douvble in volume overnight.

Adrian
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:59:50 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Where were you 15 years ago today?
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> >Does anyone remember the Big Blizzard of 1978?
> Oh boy, another round of Where Were You When...?

I must've missed that one, but what about the Big Blizzard of Jan. 30, 1951?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 07:01:20 by Natalie Maynor
> NO__ Boone, NC
> NO__ Elsewhere in NC
> NO__ Edinburg, TX
> NO__ Galway, Ireland
> NO__ Elsewhere in Ireland
> 1___ Portland
> NO__ Starkville, MS
> NO__ Toronto
>
> Comments: _I can't afford to go if it's anywhere other than the _
> West Coast.______________________________________________________

Karen
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Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 04:01:47 by LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU

>The sea wasp underwent a name change a few years ago and is now known as
>the Box Jellyfish.

Aha!  I just read a New Scientist article that mentioned the Box Jellyfish.
I was about to post some excerpts, but if it's just the same old Sea
Wasp we know already...

Tony H.
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Graham's Entertainment Question
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        Fizzy, izzat you?   And where can we get that gif?

I doubt it's fizzy; Fizzy knows better...

G
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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Maya's poem
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:07:08 GMT

DS> == Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>

 DS> Here is the text of Maya Angelou's Inaugural poem.  I'm not positive
 DS> about the stanza breaks.

 DS> A Rock, A River, A Tree
 DS> Hosts to species long since departed,
 DS> Marked the mastodon.
 DS> The dinosaur, who left dry tokens
 DS> Of their sojourn here
 DS> On our planet floor,
 DS> Any broad alarm of their hastening doom
 DS> Is lost in the gloom of dust and ages.

Am I the only one who immediately started thinking

Glass of milk,
Stands between extinction in the cold and explosive radiating growth.
And the warm blood flows through the large four-chambered heart,
Maintaining the very high metabolism rate they have.

[And how many recognize it?]
--
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gleanings (76
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Posted on 26 Jan 1993 at 09:09:53 by samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU

>> 9) Roger Penrose (Tushar)
>
>Physicist at Oxford. Did work in relativity, cosmology etc,
>also interested in silly math problems and games. Succesfully
>conned (I think) the public by writing "The Emperor's New
>Mind".

Was probably the first to draw the 'impossible triangle', on which
several of Escher's works (e.g. Waterfall) are based.

>                                  Escher was famous as a graphic
>artist who produced weird pictures, like drawing hands, mobius
>ant, belvedere, and other pictures which you can see on the T-
>shirt of every well-dressed geek. I think I was referring to the
>never-ending staircase (or some such name), which by an odd co-
>incidence was suggested to Escher by Penrose.

A number of Escher's works are based, notwithstanding his self-
proclaimed ignorance of mathematics, on suggestions by well known
mathematicians.  H.S.M. Coxeter evidently explained how to do the
circle limit stuff.

Tony H.
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From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: WORDS-L TP: Evelyn's Sport/Leisure Question

>OK, Smart Aleck - who was the poster from SIVM.BITNET the other day, hmmm???
>
>G

I haven't been reading everything carefully lately. And I read cutesy talk
involving Graham Toal very cursorily.

Now that I remember, you were with "abh" on the Santa fiasco.

tushar
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From:         BillMerrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Maya's poem
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> DS> The dinosaur, who left dry tokens
> DS> Of their sojourn here
> DS> On our planet floor,
>
>Am I the only one who immediately started thinking . . .

. . . of dinosaur doo-doo on the planet floor?

Bill
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 23 Jan 93 03:48:18 GMT
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harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:

>On Fri, 22 Jan 1993, Peter Montgomery wrote:

>> On the other hand, supposing it wasn't a person on words-l, but a former
>> words-ler on another list, or even one of our system managers? We are

>I have noticed that an ex-whore is almost always the first to speak out
>against prostitution.

You obviously don't know a) many ex-whores or b) folks who speak out
against prostitution.
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Asians
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              26 Jan 93 11:57:00 -0600. <9301261841.AA17115@sics.se>

  >Now I realize that there was a confusion. By "sutra" I didn't mean just
  >any scriptural writing, but a "sutra". Although of course, if you ask me
  >what a sutra is, I have no answer to give except "something which is called
  >a sutra".

  Conze:

   "Another important division is that between Sutra and Shastra. A sutra
is a text which claims to have been spoken by the Buddha himself. It always
begins with the words, Thus have I heard at one Time. The Lord dwelt at...
The 'I' here means the disciple Ananda, who recited the entire Buddha-word
immediately after the Buddha's death. Many sutras were composed centuries
after the death of the Buddha. The actual authors of the sutras which were
not spoken by the historical Buddha himself are, of course, unknown."

  Elsewhere, Conze states that we have no way of knowing which sutras
(whether preserved in Pali or in Sanskrit) were spoken by the
historical Buddha himself.
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From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Shirt.gif
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>About the words-l t-shirt...
>
>   I'll take two, too.
>
>BettyZ (actually, I expected to see a pig on it somewhere)

Speaking of tshirts...how about one for the salmonbake...

SalmonBake 93...When Pigs Fly...

jenna
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Cloudy skies over Portland

>
>How about voting?  All in favor of Portland?  All in favor of NC?
>Write-ins?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Where in North Carolina?
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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        (Hmm.  I wonder what I'd find if I had the OED on CD-ROM...)

Dunno.  Want me to look it up on mine?

G
(It'll probably say the same as the paper version though...)
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:52:16 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Birthday
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> H A P P Y   B I R T H D A Y   T O   N A N C Y !
>
> doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)

Thank you. :-)
ndh (wondering if I have time this to go take advantage of the special "55 and
older" bargain day at Cloth World this afternoon0
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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              25 Jan 1993 18:35:33 EST from <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

Happy Birthday, Entropy Warrior!

Happy Republic Day, you Indians!

Happy Australia Day again, you Aussies (in the states of Queensland,
                                        N.S.W., A.C.T, and N.T.)!

Einen guten Rutsch ins NeuJahr wuensche ich Euch allen!

brad
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