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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: BOXSCORE mia36orl33.22jan93
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:44:55 GMT


mia 110, orl 104   22jan93

dnp: orl - catledge,terry(cd)
flagrant fouls: salley,john(7:17 3rd)
                tolbert,tom(6:14 4th)
ejections: salley,john(7:17 3rd)
illegal defense warning: orl

mia (11-25)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
salley,john       15   0   1   0  0   4  4   0  1   0  2  0  3  2  0  1  1    4
rice,glen         41  10  19   1  3  10 10   5 10   0  3  1  3  2  0  0  0   31
seikaly,rony      38   4  17   0  1  10 12   3  8   1  5  2  2  0  0  0  0   18
edwards,kevin     31   2   8   0  0   4  4   2  4   5  1  2  1  1  0  0  0    8
coles,bimbo       30   2   7   1  1   6  7   1  2   4  5  1  0  0  0  0  0   11
long,grant        33   4   9   0  1   6  8   2  8   2  2  1  2  2  0  0  0   14
smith,steve       27   8  12   2  2   4  7   1  7   2  2  0  1  1  0  0  0   22
askins,keith       7   0   2   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
miner,harold       8   1   4   0  0   0  0   1  1   2  2  0  1  0  0  0  0    2
geiger,matt       10   0   0   0  0   0  0   2  3   0  2  0  0  1  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
mia totals       240  31  79   4  8  44 52  17 44  16 25  7 13  9  0  1  1  110
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .392   .500   .846       team rebs  9, team TO's 1

orl (16-17)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
tolbert,tom       27   2   9   0  0   6  7   2  8   1  4  1  1  0  0  0  1   10
bowie,anthony     35   6  13   0  2   6  7   0  5   1  3  0  2  0  0  0  0   18
o'neal,shaquille  24   6   8   0  0   3  6   4 11   0  5  3  2  5  0  0  0   15
anderson,nick     33   6  12   0  0   0  2   0  0   2  6  2  2  0  0  0  0   12
skiles,scott      39   7  14   0  3   2  2   0  2  13  4  2  4  0  0  0  0   16
turner,jeff       25   4   7   0  0   2  2   0  1   2  2  0  1  0  0  0  0   10
kite,greg         18   1   3   0  0   0  0   3  6   0  2  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
green,litterial   10   3   6   0  0   0  0   1  2   4  2  0  1  0  0  0  0    6
royal,donald      28   3   8   0  0   9  9   0  6   1  3  0  3  0  0  0  0   15
kerr,steve         1   0   0   0  0   0  0   1  1   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
orl totals       240  38  80   0  5  28 35  11 42  24 31  8 16  5  0  0  1  104
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .475   .000   .800       team rebs 10

mia   25  20  31  34  -  110
orl   26  26  25  27  -  104

attendance 15151, time 2:27, officials: TBernhardt,GBenson,JKersey
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Manning vs Lewis (was: Proposed Celts trade)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:29:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan27.223113.23402@cheshire.oxy.edu> tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.210208.6886@tc.fluke.COM> mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel) writes:
>
>
>>Are you serious? I thought that Lewis was the only reason that the
>>Celts weren't submerged in the toilet. Is Manning better than Lewis?
>>IMHO I don't think so. Lewis is a clutch player, Manning is good, but
>>not a clutch player.
>
>     Well, this is a very tough comparison (unlike Manning vs Laettner
>:) ).  Lewis' performances in the playoffs, especially last year, speak
>for themselves.  Manning hasn't approached that level.
>     On the pro-Manning side, however, I think his regular season 
>performance this year is better than Lewis'.  Manning wasn't chopped
>liver in the playoffs last year either, 22.6 points on *57%* shooting.
>Also, he hasn't, so to speak, had as many chances to shine as Lewis
>-- it was only last spring that Manning finally began to play at his
>current All-star level.  But, it must be admitted that Manning has
>never accomplished what Lewis has in the playoffs.


However, I am a HUGE Reggie Lewis fan, but would LOVE to see this trade.
Manning is one of the better players in the league, as is Lewis.  However,
Manning fills a need in that he can play the power forward spot or the
small forward spot.  With him in the PF spot, you could put McDaniel or
Gamble at the SF, Fox at SG, and Brown/Douglas at the point.  Dee could also
play the SG spot very well.   The Celtics have a lot of bodies that can play 
in the smaller positions, but are weaker up front.  McHale and Parish still
get the job done, but aren't as consistent as they used to be, and need the
rest.

Anyway, I would love to see this trade...
-- 
David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: cheese@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Charles Alpert)
Subject: Some Warriors jokes
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 01:56:30 GMT


Nobody should take offense here, but I'd like to see a
little true sports humor in its basest form.  now I'm a
Sixers fan, and I'm sure people could write books on 
Armon Gilliam jokes.  But for starters:

What do Chris Mullin and I have in common ?

Tim Hardaway won't pass either one of us the ball.

(or an alternative form.
What do Scottie Pippen and I have in common ?

Neither one of us deserved to be on the Olympic team.


How many Warriors does it take to screw in a light bulb?

They can't.  Hardaway`s too short, but he won't give up the bulb.


How many Don Nelson's does it take to screw in a light bulb?

One.  Just because he can't coach, that doesn't mean he's not handy
around the house.


What do earthquakes and Warriors first round playoff losses have in
common?

Both are relatively frequent Bay Area occurrences but everyone
seems surprised when they happened.


Also, what do Don Nelson and I have in common?

Neither one of us has been to an NBA finals.




Chuck Alpert
From: goedde@math.ohio-state.edu (Chris Goedde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Pacific division dominates
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:44:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: ellipse.1k3t91INNb7u
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ellipse.mps.ohio-state.edu

In article <1993Jan26.171355.8792@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

[ Note: these are last year's stats.]

>HOME RECORDS:
>                     Pacific   Central   Atlantic  Midwest   
>Pacific (134-48)     ----      31-18     35-14     68-16     
>Central (131-58)     26-23     ----      69-29     36-6      
>Atlantic (104-85)    23-26     52-46     ----      29-13     
>Midwest (92-76)      43-41     23-19     26-16     ----      
>
>
>ROAD RECORDS:
>                     Pacific   Central   Atlantic  Midwest   
>Pacific (90-92)      ----      23-26     26-23     41-43     
>Central (83-106)     18-31     ----      46-52     19-23     
>Atlantic (59-130)    14-35     29-69     ----      16-26     
>Midwest (35-133)     16-68     6-36      13-29     ----      
>
>
>(The most amazing number to me is that Pacific teams had a winning
>record ON THE ROAD vs Atlantic teams!  Now who's the baddest ocean?!)

Actually, the Pacific did very well everywhere on the road last year,
for a combined record of 90-92 (0.495).  On the other hand, the rest
of the league went 48-134 (0.264, ugh!) when playing on the Pacific
division's home floors.  The same seems to be happening this year,
too, with only the Central being anywhere near 0.500 on the road
against the Pacific division.

This makes me wonder if there's more to this than just the relative
strength of the divisions.  For instance, the East coast teams are
on the "wrong" end of the time change---when they play and 8pm west
coast game, that's like playing from 11pm until 2 am their time.  I
can see how a few days of that could get tiresome.  On the other hand,
a west coast team playing at 8pm on the east coast is playing from 5pm
to 8pm their time.

Does anybody know if this kind of thing shows up in other sports, like
baseball?

chris
goedde@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper)
Subject: Re: If draft were today .... ?
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:39:08 GMT

janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude) writes:


>hi !,
>	I was wondering if draft day were today who the top 5 picks would be ?
>	Will be glad to hear from U folks out there.

My bets:

1. Chris Webber, Michigan
2. Anfernee Hardaway, Memphis State
3. Jamal Mashburn, Kentucky
4. Eric Montross, North Carolina
5. Calbert Cheaney, Indiana

Other high picks: The Hills and Hurley of Duke, Terry Dehere, Adonis Jordan,
and A.C. Earl. It's hard to guess without knowing what teams have what
picks. I don't think there's a single standout like the Shaq this year.
Either Hardaway or Webber could be the first pick depending on wha the team
needs.

-Brian Harper
n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu

>J Anand.


>-- 
>!!!!!!!!!%-----+++++=====/**##!!!!!!!!!!!!!/**##=====+++++-----%!!!!!!!!
>When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried.
>!!!!!!!!!%-----+++++=====/**##!!!!!!!!!!!!/**##=====+++++-----%!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: BOXSCORE dal35orl34.23jan93
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:17:12 GMT


dal 106, orl 127   23jan93

illegal defense warning: dal
technical fouls: illegal defense(5:00 2nd)
                 davis,terry(4:19 3rd)
                 white,randy(9:30 4th)
flagrant foul: davis,terry(11:11 1st)
ejection: white,randy(9:30 4th)

dal ( 3-32)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
smith,doug        20   4   8   0  0   0  0   2  5   1  5  0  1  0  0  0  0    8
davis,terry       30   5  15   0  0   0  0   4  8   0  2  0  2  0  1  0  1   10
rooks,sean        24   5  11   0  0   3  4   1  1   0  3  2  1  0  0  0  0   13
harper,derek      28   7  14   2  3   2  4   1  2  10  1  0  0  1  0  0  0   18
bond,walter       21   2   7   0  1   3  3   1  1   1  3  2  1  0  0  0  0    7
white,randy       20   2   6   0  0   4  4   4  8   0  5  0  0  0  1  1  0    8
hodge,donald      18   2   8   0  0   0  0   1  3   0  3  0  0  0  0  0  0    4
moore,tracy       16   4   8   1  2   2  2   2  3   2  3  0  2  0  0  0  0   11
iuzzolino,mike    21   3   7   0  1   0  0   2  4   6  0  2  2  0  0  0  0    6
cambridge,dexter  12   3   7   0  0   2  2   1  4   0  3  0  0  0  0  0  0    8
howard,brian      16   5   7   0  0   2  2   0  2   0  3  0  2  0  0  0  0   12
curcic,radisav    14   0   4   0  0   1  2   3  5   3  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
dal totals       240  42 102   3  7  19 23  22 46  23 32  6 11  1  2  1  1  106
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .412   .429   .826       team rebs  9, team TO's 1
procedure technicals 1

orl (17-17)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
bowie,anthony     26   4   8   0  0   0  2   0  3   5  2  0  2  1  0  0  0    8
tolbert,tom       23   3   5   0  1   4  4   2  3   1  5  0  0  0  0  0  0   10
o'neal,shaquille  40  14  16   0  0  10 14   4 13   2  0  0  3  7  0  0  0   38
skiles,scott      25   2   6   0  2   5  7   1  2   9  2  0  3  0  0  0  0    9
anderson,nick     31   6  11   0  0   3  6   1  6   4  2  2  0  2  0  0  0   15
turner,jeff       15   4   7   0  0   1  1   1  4   1  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    9
royal,donald      35   9  15   0  0  10 11   1  6   4  3  1  1  1  0  0  0   28
kite,greg          8   1   3   0  0   2  4   2  4   0  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    4
green,litterial   23   1   4   0  0   0  2   1  1   4  3  2  1  0  0  0  0    2
catledge,terry    10   2   4   0  0   0  0   1  1   0  1  1  1  1  0  0  0    4
kerr,steve         4   0   2   0  1   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
orl totals       240  46  81   0  4  35 51  14 43  30 20  6 13 12  0  0  0  127
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .568   .000   .686       team rebs 17

dal   28  21  26  31  -  106
orl   38  29  33  27  -  127

attendance 15151, time 2:28, officials: BDelaney,DJones,JMadden
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: pet1@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter E Thorson)
Subject: Re: Some Warriors jokes
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:04:29 GMT


It seems everyone who posts on this topic is a jerk.  Which makes me...oops!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: rambis@iastate.edu (Paul L Pearson)
Subject: Re: Sac Kings mini-report
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:32:31 GMT

In <GFINK.93Jan21123337@ent.eecs.ucdavis.edu> gfink@ent.eecs.ucdavis.edu (George Fink) writes: 

>(Side note:  Simmons has a deep thigh bruise and should be back soon.
>Tisdale turned an ankle and pulled a groin muscle, the latter of which
>is a habitual problem for Tis, and so is worrisome, but it looks like
>he could be back in a week or so.  Williams broke a finger in his
>shooting hand, and it'll be 3-4 weeks for him, unfortunately.)

There was earlier talk on the net about Rambis having back problems.  Do you
have any info. about that?

>--George

>P.S.  If I get lots of positive feedback on this post I might be 
>inclined to post more of these updates.  Hint, hint.

Post away, George!!

I would appreciate it if anyone can regularly post the stats from all the
Kings games-our lousy local paper (Des Moines Register) only has the 
abbreviated statistics.  


Paul L. "I'm an unstable intermediate with a long half-life at 37oC"
"Pro" Pearson
President, Kurt Rambis Fan Club-Ames, IA Chapter (unofficial)

"A pro, Dan?  A pro is how you think of yourself."
-Jim Belushi as Bernie, "About Last Night"
From: jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: John Williams (LAC)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:01:55 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo71

In article <1j6rvsINNgvs@news.aero.org> robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
>In article <1j6pkcINNnv4@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>|And Vlade reportedly smokes 2 packs of Marlboros a day.
>Are you bullshitting? Or have you actually heard this from a source
>that you trust?

Sorry, I couldn't respond sooner, mailer problems. I went to the game
and some friends coincidentally were sitting next to me. They mentioned
hearing a radio interview with Vlade where he talked about this. Also,
some other fans near us were yelling "hey, Marlboro man" at him when
he was called for a foul. None of this is evidence however. That is
why I used the word "reportedly".


....
jimh@pongo.west.Sun.COM
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Smokers in the NBA?
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:29:48 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC


 >>Any other known smokers in the league?

Lloyd Daniels?

--R.Clough
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: roper@halcyon.com (Michael Roper)
Subject: Craig Hodges and the 3-pt competition
Organization: Amaze Inc., Kirkland WA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:49:31 GMT

>>Also where's Craig Hodges??
>>Can someone complete in 3-pt competition if they are not on an NBA
>>roster,even if they are the current champion??
> 
> I hope not.

According to the USAT this morning, Hodges has been invited to compete.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: icsu0182@cs.montana.edu (Sean)
Subject: Re: If draft were today .... ?
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:25:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.233230.25863@vela.acs.oakland.edu> janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude) writes:

>	I was wondering if draft day were today who the top 5 picks would be ?
>	Will be glad to hear from U folks out there.

Well, depending on whether or not Chris Webber is coming out this year, I think
that with Webber, the draft will look something like this:

		1.  Chris Webber - Michigan
		2.  Jamal Mashburn - Kentucky
		3.  Anfernee Hardaway - Memphis State
		4.  Terry Dehere - Seton Hall
		5.  Lawrence Funderburke - Ohio State


	I think that Booby Hurley, and the two Hills from Duke will be in the 
first round...However, with most likely the teams that will pick one and two
being Dallas and Minnesota, they need scorers, and not point guards, and so
that is why Webber and Mashburn are at the top because they could both play the 
Power forward (4) spot, or the small forward(3) spot with ease...and would 
greatly help out any of these DIRE STRAITS teams...

Just my 0.02!
Any Comments welcome!

Sean


-- 
Sean Reid                     |"Baseball is a rather simple game. You throw the 
Dept. of Computer Science     | ball, you hit the ball, you catch the ball...  
Montana State University      | Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes
icsu0182@caesar@cs.montana.edu| it rains."    --  Eppy Calvin "NUKE" LaLouche
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 14:13:16 MST
From: zimms@newt.ee.byu.edu (Stephen H. Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: BLAZER SEX SCANDAL


In article <1k6mkvINNon8@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, curt@oce.orst.edu (Curt Vandetta) writes:
>In article <jjonsson.349@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
>>
>>>jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
>>
>>>>The local news stations in Salt Lake City are reporting tonight that some 
>>>>Portland Trailblazers have been connected with the sexual abuse of some 
>>>>local teenage girls in their hotel during their recent stay here. They didnt 
>>>>say which team members were involved, only that there is an investigation 
>>>>going on.
>>
>>Okay, here's the story. 
>
>  [ The Rest of the Story - deleted ]
>
>  I hate to even make a post on this subject, but before you run off and
>  linch the Blazers, lets concider.
>
>  1) These are aligations.
>  2) They are aligations from run-a-way girls who gave this story to the
>     police after they were caught shoplifting.
>  3) Some of the players mentioned don't play for the Blazers any more.
>  4) It's highly unprofessional of the Salt Lake police officers to release
>     any of this story before any charges are filed.
>  5) The media eats this kind of stuff up.  A portland news show had a 
>     special segment on what the Utah sexual abuse laws are...
>  6) All the Blazer players consider it ludicrous.
>  7) Won't anyone in Utah recognize any of the Blazers if they were crusing
>     the Mall(s) looking for chicks?  I know that if any of the Utah players
>     were running around Malls in Portland, they would be noticed.  I mean
>     it's not everyday NBA players go the Mall (without police escorts to
>     get them to the autograph table).
>
Actually, in answer to number 7, YES, people will recognize them, and most players
HOPE they do.  According to at least one Salt Lake City News Station, it is quite
COMMON for NBA players to hang out in the mall and [converse with] women.  The news
station interviewed quite a few women who work in Crossroads Mall who said that they'd
been "picked up on" several times by NBA players.  These women said that they see lots
of girls who come to the mall on game-night waiting to get picked up.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: Smokers in the NBA?
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Sasquatch, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:17:23 GMT



robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
>Any other known cigarette smokers in the league?

Can't say about currently, but the ABA used to have their fair
share.  Guys like George McGinnis and Darnell Hillman would
get to the locker room at halftime really fast so they could
indulge themselves.  Read about it in "Loose Balls."

-- 
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
"I'm a thin mint man myself."  -Al Albert
From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: Free Agents
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:02:44 GMT

In article <43964@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, cs161fir@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
|> In article <C19Gt2.IBF@hpchase.rose.hp.com>,
|> bruceh@mothra.rose.hp.com (Bruce Hendler) writes:
|> >Anyone know a list of the free agents, both restricted and unrestricted at
|> >the end of this season.  I'm curious who is going to be involved in the 
|> >bidding wars.
|> 
|> I don't have a complete list, but here are two notables:
|> 
|> Danny Manning.  RFA at the end of this season.  Has the option to
|> sign with the Clippers and become an UFA at the end of next season.
|> 
|> Ron Harper.  Unless the Clippers raise his salary to $4 million, he
|> becomes an UFA at the end of this season.  Speculation in the LA
|> media is that the Clippers will *not* give him the $4 mil.

Add Ken Norman, Mark Jackson, Kiki Vandeweghe to the list of Clippers
who will be unrestricted free agents and Gary Grant to the list of
restricted free agents.  Consider that if Charles Smith was still
around, he would have also been an unrestriced free agent.
It sure doesn't look like anybody wants to play for the poor Clippers.

				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Re: Trade rumor: B.Benjamin/K.McHale
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:36:33 GMT

In article <1k4ip9INNikp@shelley.u.washington.edu> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>gregs@eskimo.com (Greg Sumner) writes:
>
>Let's think about this one :
>
>1. Does McHale fill a need for the Sonics?  No
>2. Does McHale play Karl's type of game?  No
>3. Does this allow them to cut payroll significantly?  No
>

are you sure about #3?  How many years would they have to swallow up on 
McHale's contract compared to how many on Benjamin's?  Sort of similar to the
JR Reid / sideny Green trade?

I really think that Benjamin should be used more in half-court offense (if 
anyone saw the Clippers game, the Sonics do neet to work on their half-court 
offense).  However, Karl does not like Benjamin's work ethic and therefore
benches him (alhtough from GAMES i have seen, Benjamin does really well).
so that's why he is not used in the half court offense.

So then it comes down to this:  Will McHale be any better in the half-court
offense then Benjamin?  Who has better post moves?

McHale definitely would not be a starter.. He'd probably be a sixth man or 
something or whenever the opposing team's defense is forcing the Sonics to
play half-court offense.

Also, I am sure Karl has a reason for waiting McHale if there is any truth
to the rumor. You never know what the mad scientist is thinking.

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