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From: dexter@news.mr.med.ge.com.UUCP (Donald Dexter 4-6489)
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 14:12:51 GMT

From article <1992Jul23.154254.27557@wam.umd.edu>, by loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup):
> In article <1992Jul22.103011.1@urc.tue.nl> elmebm@urc.tue.nl (Bert Muller) writes:
>>OK, here are a few progressive alternative metal bands I haven't seen on this 
>>list yet:
>>
>>- Soundgarden
>>- Pearl Jam
>>- Prong
> 
> Didn't Soundgarden actually get a Grammy for one of their first albums
> in a heavy metal category?  I remember the uproar among alternative fans
> who didn't consider Soundgarden heavy metal. 

	.......
 
> It's also funny how Headbanger's Ball on MTV will play bands like Primus,
> Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Nirvana when most of their fans don't think
> their metal.  

they all have some elements of metal, but certainly don't fit into
the standard metal slot....hence the word "progressive".  taking
boring old formula 'metal' and bringing it somewhere new.


> In any case, I don't care what you call the music.  If I
> like it I like it, if I don't I don't.  But I guess if this newsgroup is
> going to discuss progressive metal it's really going to have to agree
> upon a definition because in my neck of the woods Soundgarden and Pearl Jam
> aren't considered metal.  
>

nor are they here.  they're "alternative metal" or "progressive metal"
this is a plus.  to be "considered metal" is to be stagnant and dead 
musically.  standard metal-slop has all been done a thousand times
before.

i've seen the other lists posted, but the one above is the only one i'd
agree with.  to me, the others are by far way too dull way too "standard"
(and hence not 'progressive').  since the readers here seem to be fixated
on the same old same old, and the soundgarden-type definition doesn't
hold here, i'll unsubscribe and go away now.  too bad really.

maybe Burt Muller (the original poster) and i can start 
alt.rock-n-roll.metal.interesting

-don.
From: fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: What do some bands sound like
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:06:37 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Just curious.  I've heard a lot about so-called industrial 
metal bands (Godsflesh).  Could anybody post a musical 
description of their sound and any good albums to buy to
get acquainted with.  

Also, though Primus is not metal, I think this is a good place to
talk about them.  They are kind of hard to classify, but if anything
they are definitely progressive.  I'm surprised there isn't more
talk about them on the net, considering that musically, they are
one of the better "rock" bands around.  Its too bad all groups
don't have the same amount of talent to work with as this band 
does.

--MeatHead
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Summary: Realm redux....
Keywords: Progressive Metal, Realm, Milwaukee, Metalfest
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:44:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.170616.27981@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.142257.24289@mr.med.ge.com> dexter@news.mr.med.ge.com.UUCP (Donald Dexter 4-6489) writes:
>
>>> 
>>> Seems to me that one of the better "progressive metal" bands around would have
>>> to be Milwaukee, Wisconsin's pride, Realm. 
>>
>>well, they're not our "pride" per se.  i mean they're cool and all, but
>>we do have a lot more here.  try die kreutzen, feck,  or my personal 
>>favorite arion black (email me if you're interested in getting their 
>>new tape _threejawchuck_). 
>though I'm from Milwaukee, I've never heard Realm--  how would you describe
>them.  
>

I would have to describe Realm as a progressive thrash band. Verging at times into
"Sword Metal" territory, they have excellent guitars, fine musicianship all around
, and a distinctive, highlighted vocalist. They rock, with more brains than 
most. 
BTW, I have heard Arion Black, they are excellent. But I wouldn't put them in
a contest with Realm. They are two very different bands. Haven't heard Feck,
I'll have to check them out. I have followed Die Kreuzen for years, even saw some
nasty audience injuries <a broken neck> at one of their shows. Great band, but
I think they have broken up, or gone into temporary retirement. Their last
album, "Concrete", can be politely described as "an acquired taste". I was
being a little sarcastic about "The Pride of Milwaukee", <everyone knows that
Milwaukees pride is Special Export beer!>. I first saw Realm as the 3rd band
at the 2nd Milwaukee Metalfest, and they blew me away! Good stuff!

Joe-Bob says "Check It Out!"


                                 -Judex
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: jjruohio@vipunen.hut.fi (Jaakko J Ruohio)
Subject: Dream Theater catalog # ?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: alt
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:12:48

Could someone post the catalog number for 'Images & Words'
Thanks.
--
Jaakko J Ruohio			/    Where's Howard, man?
Jaakko.Ruohio@hut.fi	       /
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: cassidy@indian.cps.msu.edu (John J Cassidy)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:17:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.040338.2002@wpi.WPI.EDU> martino@encore.WPI.EDU (Robert Paul Martino Jr) writes:
>One of the bands that got me from mainstream to progressive music was Iron 
>Maiden a few years ago.  I always thought they were different, a lot of
>meter changes and key modulations, does anyone think of them as progressive?
>
>My favorite album of theirs is probably the concept album Seventh Son of
>a Seventh Son, about the adventures of a guy with special powers.
>
>Somewhere in Time and the new one Fear of the Dark aren't bad, I don't listen
>to IM that much anymore though.
>
>Maybe the older stuff (first couple albums) were straigtforward metal but
>when you get into long pieces like Rime of the Ancient.. and Seventh Son...
>there seems to be more of a progressive element.
>
>They have a unique sound that isn't mainstream sounding at all to me, even
>more commercial oriented songs like Can I Play with Madness? sound good
>without that pop/poser sound.
>
>Enough babbling...
>
>Rob
>
>-- 
>Rob Martino                          |     (clever or particularly funny
>martino@wpi.wpi.edu                  |      philosophical quote here)
>

	I think a fair case can be made for Maiden bieng Progressive.  They list Genesis and Steve Hackett as influences.  And Genesis and Yes are big influences of Geoff Tate, as well.  I love the album "Powerslave".  And I think that the song "Powerslave" is one of their most "progressive".	

	John J Cassidy		Cassidy@indian.cps.msu.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: smiller@bgsu.edu (scott miller)
Subject: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:19:25 GMT

So what exactly do you mean by progressive metal?
Are these good examples?

Smashing Pumpkins
Agent Orange
Mudhoney (or would this be grunge instead?)
Skinny Puppy

If these are what you're talking about, then I'll post some.

			Scott

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Subject: Maiden/Voivod
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:06:38 GMT

Voivod: definitely progressive.  Weird stuff.  I only own 
_Angel Rat_, but I've heard _Nothingface_ a few times and
it's very cool.  They just keep changing albums.

Re: the Maiden post:  Maiden was definitely one of the
bands that *really* got me into metal.  Personally, I've
been disappointed with their last few albums, but I can
still put on _Piece of Mind_ or _Killers_ and just love it.  
Progressive?  Well, they do some cool stuff.  Cool harmony
solos, some neat bass/guitar stuff.  Certainly not 
progressive in the vein of Watchtower, but somewhat nonetheless.

Any musicians out there, by the way?  I play bass.


s
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: jrg@netcom.com (Parade)
Subject: Re: Essential prog metal albums
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 07:14:07 GMT
Organization: People's Popular Front for Revolutionary Darwinism
Reply-To: jrg@netcom.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


	King of Kings -- "King of Kings" --- DGC (DGCD-24368)

		Very heavy, very melodic, very mind entracing...
		Their music is made by 3 guys with a sound as
		full as the best.  Thickly layered musicianship,
		with talent and passion.  No close relatives,
		but some would think a cross between Dream Theater
		and Galactic Cowboys.  Replaced Galactic Cowboys
		as #1 in my CD playlist, and I never expected any
		other band to do that...

	Found it in the cheap CD bin... Maybe you can be so lucky...


						-russ.
-- 
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                     Parade says, "Evolution NOW!"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: randyb@calera.com (Randy Bias)
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Organization: Calera Recognition Systems
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:46:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.211359.7514@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans) writes:
>>So what exactly do you mean by progressive metal?
I second this.  What is "progressive metal"?  Alternative-ish?

>>Are these good examples?
>>
>>Smashing Pumpkins
>>Agent Orange
>>Mudhoney (or would this be grunge instead?)
>>Skinny Puppy
Except for Skinny Puppy I think these are good choices.

>I'd say that 1 & 3 are alternative grunge kind of stuff.
>I love Smashing Pumpkins.  Skinny Puppy--definitely industrial.
>I like all of them but wouldn't call them progressive metal.

>Some progressive metal bands:
>
>Fates Warning
>Dream Theater
>Queensryche
>Watchtower
>Toxik
>King Diamond
>Annihilator
>King's X
>Athiest

These are all normal thrash or metal bands.  Nothing really different about
most of them IMHO.  Does progressive just mean that they have special lyrics
or something?

Some bands that I think are less mainstream and have taken metal to a new
form:

Godflesh
Neurosis	(Arguably they are alternative-grungish, but . . .)

Whoops, my mind blanked.  I'll post some others in a bit.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: wcsvic@alfred.carleton.ca (Victor Kamutzki)
Subject: Re: New Dream Theatre album-- how is it??
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:22:36 GMT

jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:

>What do other folks think of it?

I wanted to like it, but I just couldn't.  It's _way_ too slick.  More
like pop/metal with a bit of progressiveness.  Kind of a let-down,
because all the guys in the band are fine musicians.

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From: fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:32:42 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

What about Voivod?  Yeah, there lyrics are kinda spacey but then
so is the music.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: kristy@dssdev.enet.dec.com (Kristy S. Gleason (Woobie's Dial-A-Hug Service))
Subject: Re: New Dream Theatre album--  how is it??
Reply-To: kristy@dssdev.enet.dec.com (Kristy S. Gleason (Woobie's Dial-A-Hug Service))
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:52:15 GMT


In my personal opinion, "Images & Words" is one of *THE* best albums/cds/cassettes to come out in several years.  The lead singer is quite impressive and has a good quality voice.  The time changes are amazing and quite intricate at certain times.  Overall, a *VERY* decent mixture of sounds (no instrument overwhelms the others)... 

-- Kristy
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: lrose@nestor.uucp (82370s-punskovsky)
Subject: Re: First post!
Reply-To: lrose@nestor.UUCP ()
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 20:28:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.192151.5389@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans) writes:
>Well, here it is...yet another newsgroup.  Yet another metal one,
>to boot.  I'd like to try and set the tone here while I can.
>It seems that there's way too much flaming and not enough
>discussing on most of the metal groups.  If this group can avoid
>that, it will be successful.  If not, it'll suck like the rest
>of them.

As long as we keep Maple and Sauron (spel?) off this newsgroup, we'll
be be just fine.  Let's take advantage while they're on break.

>
>So, come on, let's hear some stuff about state-of-the-art metal!
>
>My personal favorite prog metal bands:
>
>Fates Warning
>Dream Theater
>King's X
>Athiest
>Toxik
>King Diamond
>
>Anyone else?  I'd _love_ to see tons of activity on this group...
>
>
>scott


Okay, so you consider Fates Warning and King's X progressive metal.
Who else besides the 6 bands above, would you consider prog metal?


Lin
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: pee9901@ultb.isc.rit.edu (P.E. Erkkila )
Subject: progressive bands
Originator: pee9901@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:28:18 GMT


  How about PRONG !!!  I would definitly call them a "progressive band"
I hope that's what whoever created this silly thing is getting at.



damage
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Summary: Realm
Keywords: Realm
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:06:39 GMT


Seems to me that one of the better "progressive metal" bands around would have
to be Milwaukee, Wisconsin's pride, Realm. I have seen them live a few times and
I have their first album "Endless War". They can be pretty thrashy, but always 
with class, and style. Wild guitars, and great vocals, killer percussion, it is
all here. Can't remember the name of their second album, but the material
was awesome live. And they do a GREAT cover of "Eleanor Rigby"!!!!!
                
                                           Judex

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:54:11 GMT

>>standard metal-slop has all been done a thousand times before.
>
>Standard metal-slop, IMHO, is new stuff by:
>
>Judas Priest
>Iron Maiden
>Black Sabbath
>etc.
>
>All bands whose early material I *LOVE*.  Early Sabbath, Priest,
>and Maiden changed my life.  But those guys have stagnated like
>hell, and their new stuff is just boring, bad attempts at being
>as fresh as they used to be.  I can still put on "Killers"
>or "Back in the Village" or "Electric Eye" or "Snowblind" or
>"The Wizard" and love it.  But their new stuff, to me, blows.
>
>I don't think we've mentioned anything like that stuff.
>Have we?
>
You really think new Priest and Maiden is stagnant? I'll give you (to some
extent) TURBO, RAM IT DOWN, and NO PRAYER FOR THE DYING, although I enjoyed
those albums (but not as much as their other efforts). I still think they
have more energy than many new bands these days (PAINKILLER and FEAR OF THE
DARK are among my most favorite albums these days). True, I like their older
stuff more, but it's just different, not stagnant. But then I have a heavy
bias towards any UK band and usually like just about anything put out by any
NWOBHM band or related musicians (yes, I even like Adrenalize to a limited 
extent. I finally admit it).

Does anyone think Raven are progressive? I sort of think they do. Mark
Gallagher's guitar actually reminds me of Voivod's Piggy (can't remember the
name he uses now). I saw a bunch of Megaforce stuff today, and I notice that Wacko! was pretty heavy on the makeup as were the two Gallagher brothers. Did
they go into glamrock for a bit and broke up as a result (prior to the NOTHING
EXCEEDS LIKE EXCESS reunion)?

philip


"Inside the power cage, I can feel the music call my rage
It's paranoid, first degree. It's telling me that I'm not free.
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter)
Subject: Bad News 
Organization: Stellar Enterprises
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:22:21 GMT

For the discriminating metal Fan one must of course own the "bad News" cd.
It's cheap, they're shitty players, but truly some of the best listening in
quite a while. dann

_______________________________________________
"I know that one is left. And that once you 
figure out that, then the other hard is your right.
Then basically all you have to do is make a choice.
But the question is, how do you figure out that 
first part." dann
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:48:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.200252.3444@math.ucla.edu> jborzell@oak.math.ucla.edu (Joseph Borzellino) writes:

>In article <1992Jul22.012355.10376@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes:
>>randyb@calera.com  writes:
>>>>>So what exactly do you mean by progressive metal?
>>>I second this.  What is "progressive metal"?  Alternative-ish?
>>> 
>>>>Some progressive metal bands:
>>>>Fates Warning
>>>>Dream Theater
>>>>Queensryche
>>>>Watchtower
>>>>Toxik
>>>>King Diamond
>>>>King's X
>>>>Athiest
>>> 
>>
>>And anyone else, if you know of some progressive metal stuff
>>that's not on the list, PLEASE add to the list...there's not
>>much out there, and people like me are *dying* to hear more.

>Here's some off the top of my head:

>Iced Earth
>Xentrix
>Mercyful Fate
>Voivod
>Destruction (esp.  Release from agony)
>Revenant
>Despair

>There's more.  I have to pick my brain for them.

What about the German project band Mekong Delta? They had some pretty weird 
stuff back in 87-90...

Nomad

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Anti-Club in LA
From: sgenchi@neptune.uucp (Stacie Genchi 01-02-92)
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:27:32 PDT
Distribution: la
Organization: CSLA

I need input on the Anti-Club in LA?  What bands are playing this Friday
and how do you rate the bands?

sgenchi@calstatela
--Stacie :)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: Siddharth.Soni@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni)
Subject: Re: Exactly what is Prog Metal?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:50:55 GMT

In article <15393@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:
>What about Voivod?  Yeah, there lyrics are kinda spacey but then
>so is the music.

I used to really like this band.  What have they done after dimension hatross?

Sidd
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From: andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: after reading this shit...
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:37:00 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Jul20.213815.1@pomona.claremont.edu> cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>
>
>Well, after reading this, all I can say is taht most metal fans are still
>idiots...
>
>look, we have three newsgroups; we're not making good use of it simply because
>of our own ego.  fuck, we're all posers!  i say we cut it down to one newsgroup
>and voluntarily attempt to raise the level of posting around here...
>

Bloody hell, the voice of sense and reason at last. Rock is Rock is Rock, It
don't matter whether yopu consider it to be metal, heavy Metal, Thrash. Its all
the same, and it all should be discussed on one group. 

The only problem is the dickheads who won't use the n key but insist on flaming
anyone who likes something they don't like. Narrow minded arseholes with no
imagina

anyone who does'nt like the same music. Pathetic really, they claim to be
real fans, but spend more time producing flames than helping others with queries
and posting their opinions of albums, gigs etc.

	 Shame its not an ideal world.......

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Somewhere in Time
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:01:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.165418.15573@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

>You didn't like SEVENTH SON? Jeepers, that was a good recording. Not the 
>standard heavy metal album at all (as if anything Maiden ever did was 
>"standard" unless you say they set those "standards"). Very different kind of
>music from what they usually do, or anyone else for that matter.

At first I liked a lot of Seventh Son but not any more. It has only
one good song - one of the greatest Maiden songs - and the rest is
just poppish metal, IMHO (no flames=). That song is The Clairvoyant. I
love the Seventh Son lyrics, I love the story but I don't like the
songs, music and vocals. Far too commercial to me.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal