From: swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren)
Subject: Re: Judaizers in Colossians
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:06:22 GMT
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In article <Hw6TRB2w165w@topcat> topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht) writes:
>Regarding "strange fire," none of the MJs have never answered one, simple
>question:  where specifically did God change His law to allow the
>celebration of the Levitical feasts without the shedding of blood?

Where specifically did God change His law to permit David to eat the
show bread?  Yet Yeshua spoke approvingly of this action by David.

>Bruce or Harvey or Bill, show us all where the Bible says that the MJ
>version of Yom Kippur or Passover is a biblical celebration.  Show us how
>the MJ version is any different than the rabbinic version, i.e., relying on
>the traditions of men.  Anyone care to try?  Until you can, my comment
>about "strange fire" (unsanctioned worship) stands.

Yet God is certainly more pleased with the heart that seeks to worship
Him through these types and symbols than the heart that is filled with
bitterness against the Lord's servants, as you seem to be.

Where do you get this concept of unsanctioned worship?  Do you think
that MJs are worshipping the Father on the basis of the old covenant?
They approach Him on the same basis that you do.  It is through the
blood of Yeshua, which they acknowledge in all of their worship and
observances, that they enter into worship of Him.  For this to be
strange fire you would have to prove that they attempted to approach
God on some other basis than through the blood of Yeshua.

The MJ version is absolutely different at its heart (because of
relationship with Yeshua) from the rabbinic version, but it is not
necessary to prove that to you.  In the passage of Romans where Paul
is warning the church to stop passing judgement on those who celebrate
the feasts or restrict their diets, he says, "Who are you to judge
someone else's servant?  To his own master he stands or falls.  And he
will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.  One man considers
one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day
alike.  Each one should be convinced in his own mind." (Romans 14:4-5)

You are in direct violation of this command of scripture to stop
passing judgement on your brothers for their observance of holy days.
(Romans 14:13) They (the MJs) have never said that your faith is of
less value because you do not observe the days.  But you continue to
accuse them of offering "strange fire" (a solemn charge, since God
destroyed those who did this).

You should repent of passing judgement in this area that is forbidden
by scripture, Tom.  In the long run this attitude will harden your
heart and destroy your usefulness in the kingdom, which will be a loss
to us all, and not just to you.
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