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From: mccd@rosie.uh.edu (Reza Golshan(RA) (713)-743-1540)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Status of the Iranian Sub(DoD News Briefing)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:35 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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DoD News Briefing
Tuesday, November 17, 1992 - Noon
Mr. Pete Williams, ASD (Public Affairs)


[stuff deleted]

     Q:  Just a check on the Iranian submarine.  Is it docked in Bandar Abas?
Has it remained there?
     A:  It is in port at Bandar Abas, and as far as I know, it has stayed
there since it got in there late last week.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: slotfi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sherveen Lotfi)
Subject: Re: GM won't hire Iranians! [sci-poster]
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:29:49 GMT

In article <lgh7eqINNcir@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> F. H. Miandoab <farid@mem.odu.edu>
 writes:
>A file suit has been filed against a subsidiary of General Motors (Electonic D
a
>Data Systems) for refusing to hire fat people, gays, Iraqis and Iranians with
>less than 7 years of US citizenship history!
>(Iranians wouldn't want to be working for a company that can't make a car righ
t
>anyway. What do you expect from a failing company?)
>

bzzzzt.  wrong answer! one of my good iranian friends graduated with a ee
degree from penn state was hired on with eds in 1989.  sir, or madam, please
don't start pulling excuses just becase you don't qualify for the job.

either way, maybe they saw your overwhelming professional talents, and didn't
want to drag you down with them in a sinking ship.  you should deem that a
favor to you from them.

btw, as far as i can know, the peikAns that we build haven't broken the
world-class design barrier yet.  i guess the iranian engineers that made
those sorry excuses for motor transportation were actually british spies!

oh, also, i'm going to detroit next week for my third interview with gm's
advanced engineering group.  you think i should take the job?  i'd better
lose some weight- i wouldn't want them to think i'm obese.  i wonder if
they know that i'm not even a us citizen.  now that's not quite seven year
citizenship status, now is it, my confused friend?

so, i guess what i'm basically telling you is to quit 'yer whining and get
a life, eh?   8)
-- 
 * Sherveen Lotfi, lotfi.1@osu.edu * 'oonga ga galoonga' *
 * Life-Cycle Engineering Group    * -carl               *
 * Ohio State Dept of Mech Eng     *  asst. greenskeeper *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mhz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mariam Hakim-Zargar)
Subject: Re: Faal-e Hafez
Reply-To: MHz@nwu.edu (Mariam Hakim-Zargar)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:35:17 GMT

In article <Bxtxpw.Gy7@acsu.buffalo.edu> of soc.culture.iranian,
  bashir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Noushin Bashir) writes:
> Hello All,
> 
> I would like to learn more about Faal-e Hafez geeree... Any thoughts?
> 
> 						Thank you,
> 						Noushin
> -- 
> From the pain come the dream. From the dream come the vision. From the
> vision come the people. And from the people come the power. From this
> power come the change. 
> 					- Peter Gabriel

SalAm Noushin KhAnom,

	You would not believe how many wonderful memories you brought back to
me...  I used to remember every winter my grandmother would sit us under the
Korsi, and she would take Faal-e-Hafez for each of us (My Parents included). 
We'd just sit around, and drink _chaii_ and eat _tokhmeh_ and _tooteh
khosk_... *sigh* memories... anyway about _faale-d Hafez_ I seem to remember,
my grandmother would just say:  okay, Mariam, this one is for you.  and she
would open the book at random and read the poem on the left page.  Sometimes
she would ask if we wanted any questions answered, and if so, the poem read
would be the answer.  It was actually quite fun.  I really miss that... :(

May your manghal sard nagardad,

				MHz



Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: DEEP THOUGHTS & RACISM [sci-anonymous-poster]
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:54:56 GMT

In <lgqqf2INNhcq@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:



><saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)> writes:


>>>mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi), an apologist
>>>for the terrorist Khomeini regime expresses his deep thought:
>>>[stuff deleted]

>>Arabs...... the world would be a safer place without them. Just the deep 
>>thought.....

>I am not racist, nor am I pro-Khomeini or pro-MKO. But UNFORTUNATELY I have to


>Probably if your boss was not shaking hands with our long time enemy,
>Saddam, the beast whose soldiers raped Iranian women and girls, you sir
>wouldn't be objecting to what Amir said.

I agree with you on this part of your comments. However, I have a problem 
with this statement:

>Long live our Persian homeland
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>shahrAm

There is nothing as "Persian homeland". My motherland is Iran, not any other 
place.  Could you tell us where are you referring to?  As I understand Mr. 
Taghavi also did not had any bad feeling about Arabs.  He just pointed out 
that if the problems that faces Arab countries do not resolve, soon. The world 
might become a dangerous place to live.  I believe that this observation
is correct as well.  

                       With highest regards,
                            Babak   Sehari.

P.S.  Stupid friend is worse than intelligent enemy. -:)
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From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: TESTING WATERS [sci-poster]
Date: 16 Nov 1992 04:22:13 GMT
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To: sci-anon-poster 


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: d5babak@dtek.chalmers.se (Babak Rostamzadeh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: (chAleh meydoon), Another example of pure fArsi
Keywords: pure fArsi, geometri
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:52:30 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <7940@charon.cwi.nl> farhad@cwi.nl (Farhad Arbab) writes:
>In article <amoojoon.158@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh>, amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed) writes:
> 
> <stuff deleted>
>
>|> 
>|> The late Dr. Shokri who taught amoo "adabiyAteh FArsi" was also a member of 
>|> "farhangestAneh zabAneh IrAn". Once he told amoo (who at that time was 
>|> religiously trying to speak pure FArsi) that not all phrases would make 
>|> sense if we tried to convert it to FArsi; he then gave me an example 
>|> involving the word "gerdAli" which to this date brings smile to my face. He 
>|> said: "bebin pedar jAn agar shomA beri edAreh dArAyee ghesmati hast beh 
>|> nAmeh dAyereh mAliyAteh mostagheem". He then explained that the government
>|> (that of ShAh) had asked them to transliterate whatever Arabic terms they 
>|> found into FArsi. According to the late Dr. a group of "tAzeh kAr" liguists 
>|> came up with the following FArsi substitute: "gerdAliyeh bAjeh sikhaki", 
>|> which is technically correct but at the same time it's absolutely hilarious.
>|> 
>
>Actually the (in)famous Farhangestan was not during the Shah's
>years, but during his father's, Reza Shah.  There are many such
>stories, most of which are pure fiction, but, of course, they
>are entertaining.  Another famous one is the following.
>
>Here is a (partial) list of allegedly official Farhangestan "pure
>Persian" equivalents for some of the concepts in geometry.
>
>	Circle		dAyereh		gerdekAn
>	Line		khat		derAzi
>	Point		noghte		bi hame chiz (without anything)
>	Tangent		momAs		mAlidan
>
>Consequently, the statement "We make a tangent line from a point to
>a circle."  which is "az noghte-i khatti bar dAyereh-i momAs
>mikonim." becomes "az bi hame chizi derAzi bar gerdekAni mimAlim."
>
>(Check with someone fluent in Persian slang to find the double
>meaning here.)  Imagine the fun that the immature "hungry" teen-agers
>used to have with this statement (and the like) in sexually
>segregated high-schools back then.
>
>Cheers,
>

Another example of "Arabic" to "pure fArsi" conversion is the following 
geometrical statement that was told by Mr. Bigdeli, One of my teachers
in "adabiyAteh fArsi" in alborz highschool. 
The statement "amoodi bar ghAedeye mosallas rasm mikonim." becomes 
"gorzi bar neshimangAhe sebar forod miAvarim."

ba dorood,
Babak Rostamzadeh.
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: test , ignore it. [sci-poster]
Date: 16 Nov 1992 12:26:38 GMT
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To: sci-anon-poster 

test from mehdi
 
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From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Gerd (Re: chAleh meydoon)
Date: 22 Nov 1992 00:43:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
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In article <1992Nov20.000953.27266@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> slotfi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sherveen Lotfi) writes:
>     i think the reason sewer manholes are round, as opposed to square,
>     points back to improve the "assembleability" (sp?).  

hmmm.  i wonder if thats the primary reason... from what ive heard
(and it seems plausible) the reason is that a round manhole cover
cannot fall into the sewer hole.  this is critical especially at
the moment of removing the heavy manhole cover!

other hypotheses: 

a round, heavy metal manhole cover is easier to transport (that
is, roll).  other shapes like squares would have to be lifted and
carried... one must be considerate to manhole cover theives!

a round manhole/manhole cover can resist horizontal surface tensions
caused by temprature changes and other phenomena better than other
shapes.  ie, a square-shaped cover would lose its squaredness (and
become a lowzee) faster than a circular cover would lose its roundness
(and become a beyzee).

a missing manhole cover can be temporarily replaced by a 'tasht' in
emergencies...

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi)
Subject: Re: Rafsanjani defends purchase of submarine from Russia
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:10:40 GMT


In article: <1992Nov18.172935.18134@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com
(Agha Javad) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.012123.15857@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:


>>	During the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, Iranian revolutionary guards used
>>fast-moving boats in the Gulf to attack oil tankers calling at Arab
>>ports. U.S. naval forces subsequently entered the Gulf to protect
>>Kuwaiti tankers flying the U.S. flag.

>I would just like to remind everyone that most of the attacks against
>commercial shipping were carried out by Iraq against ships at Kharg,
>Lavan, and Sirri, and most of the damage came from those attacks.
>If the U.S. was truly interested in freedom of navigation in the Gulf,
>it should have retaliated against or defended against Iraqi aggressions
>as well.


     Nice. The reality couldn't be expressed in any better way.

>Agha Javad


Mohammad
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Test & Thanx [sci-poster]
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:53:04 GMT
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To: sci-anon-poster 
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3e PL11]

This is not just a test, so don't ignore it!
I wanted to thank ShAhrokh for his idea and work to forward anonymous
postings to SCI. This is a great opportunity for those who do not have
direct access to the NET

as well as

those Iranians who are neither US citizens nor permanent residents and don't
want to get "pas gardani" [(c) Seyyed, 1992] upon their arrival to Mehrabad.
Thanks to ShAhrokh and the rest of you, including ..., who keep this forum
ALIVE. It is much better than being scattered. Don't lose your patience
and don't stop posting in this news group because of some person's criticism
or even fohsh. We never had the chance to PRACTICE free expressing and
exchanging of ideas and personal beliefs the way we have it in SCI. Time,
practice and experience will change everyone. Hoping for the day when all
Iranians, whether back HOME or abroad, can freely express their religious and
political beliefs in any kind of forum. With many thanks.

Long live our Persian homeland (not under IRI)

ShahrAm



 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mks9e@amsun26.apma.Virginia.EDU (Mustafa Kemal Husein Saiyid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Mosque in CHARLOTTESVILLE VA
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:29:44 GMT
Reply-To: mks9e@amsun26.apma.Virginia.EDU (Mustafa Kemal Husein Saiyid)
Organization: University of Virginia

Dear Muslims,

I'm posting this letter to the net on behalf of the Islamic Society
of Albemarle County and Charlottesville in Virginia.

In recent years we have been blessed by a growing muslim presence on
and around the University of Virginia. Each year more muslims arrive,
a few stay and more faces appear regularly at Friday prayers and at
lectures and activities sponsored by the UVA Muslim Student
Association. Although this growth is a wonderful gift of Allah, it
makes all too obvious our need for a place to call our own.

Traditionally, the masjid formed a nucleus about which a town or
city revolved. We here in Charlottesville find ourselves with no
permanent presence and no base for Islamic practice, education or
propagation. Out jumma prayers are in a church, and although to
the ignorant or naive university administrator it is "non-
denominational," the UVA chapel is all-too-Christian. Many of
us find worshipping in a place surrounded by crucifixes and
depictions of a supposed son of God revolting_if not just
plain haram.

Some concerned Muslims in the area met to discuss this issue
on the first of the month. They made a tentative plan for
establishing an Islamic organization with a permanent facility
within the town and near the University. The result was the
Islamic Society of Albemarle County and Charlottesville.

ISAAC has set a goal of $150,000  for the purchase and
establishment of house for Muslims. This money would come
from Islamic and corporate organizational donations, parents of
students, Muslim families and individuals and organized not for
profit ventures. Our secretary is pursuing formal documentation
of ISAAC as a religious and legal corporation/association as well
as the appropriate tax exempt status.

We welcome all suggestions, assistance and participation.
Please contact:
Inayat von Briesen
ISAAC Acting President
109 Woodrow Street #36
Charlottesville, VA 22903
(804)296-7854

or
Mustafa K. Saiyid
837-6 Copeley III
Station 2
Charlottesville, VA 22904
(804)979-7850
mks9e@amsun.apma.virginia.edu

Finally, please remember that of the myriad activities that take our time
and energy, in the end there are only a few that we can proudly hold
forth before God when our time comes.

                                    Thank you,
                                    Mustafa Saiyid
From: F. H. Miandoab <farid@mem.odu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Ex-candidate for President is a Murderer! [sci-poster]
Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:14:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
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To: sci-poster@handel.Sun.COM

Ex-candidate for presidency of Iran, Jalaledin Farsi (who was disqualified from
the race because of his Afghani roots) has shot and killed a father of two kidsOC
who had objected to Farsi's killing of birds for hunting purposes.
The victim is Reza-khani. His brother apparently lives in US.
(J. Farsi must be a low life.)
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Deep Racism (was Re: Sale of Spy Satellite to ...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:06:47 GMT

In article <4453@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) writes:

>
>That is just your opinion, Nabeel.  Khomeini established an
>Islamic state with Islamic values.

Well, I do not call executions of hundereds of thousands, raping
of virgin girls prior to execution, repression of women,
repression of minorities (e.g., Baha'is), terrorism, kidnapping,
hostage-taking, warmongering, suppression of individual freedoms,
etc., Islamic values.

> He was opposed from day
>one, while the Devil in Iraq (aided and supported by his-then
>advocates and associates, the U.S. and Sheikdoms), Saddam
>Hussein, waged a long and extremely bloody and unmerciful war
>on not only the Islamic Republic, but also, and namely, against
>innocent women and children.

Get your facts straight. It was the Khomeini regime that 
prolonged the war. It was Khomeini who referred to war as
a "divine blessing" and referred to peace as "posion." So
it was your buddies in Tehran who prolonged an extremely
bloody and unmerciful war for 6-7 years.

And from day one, it was Israelis who rushed to support
of the Khomeini regime. There is a large volume of
literature on the extensive deals between the Khomeini
regime and Israelis. And all started from 1981.

> No, there is no comparison Nabeel.
>
>Anisa
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: bahman@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bahman Khamneian)
Subject: include English translitration code generated bu gerdsooz
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:28:12 GMT

In article <By0pMw.9EB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>
>>              ..   .              | /           /    .        . /            =
>>              __,_w_ q  _,_    .  |_)_o    .  q_)  __9 ],_p    _)       _8 q_)
>>                     / / :.   (_)         (_) /               /    (_S /   /  
>
>Could you please also post the input file for this?
>The reason I need it is to try to write a program to
>convert the input file to an ARIA (Farsi WP) document.
>That way all the Gerdsooz input text can also be used in
>any Farsi WP for printing or later use.

I think it is an excellent idea to always include the English
translitration that is generated by gerdsooz (includes ==Begin and end). 
This will allow some of us to take advantage of graphics
environments such as (x or ms windows) to display the info in 
farsi fonts available for such systems (vs using mikhi-10 
fixed length English fonts).

Bahman Khamneian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: Gerdsooz, good job guys
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:58:19 GMT


Drood Bar Ali Agha Gol:

Just wanted to appreciate your effort for developing such a tool for our
usage here.  With such a development, we can have more poems and
cultural notes here on SCI.

Your superb effort is greatly appreciated.

Kindly Reagrds

Zamie
From: menhaj@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Subject: Reply to all the poems
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:32:50 GMT

Mr. Sehari and all other friends that post poems (specially by HAFEZ)
thank you for going through the trouble of copying down the poem in
gerdsooz format there by refreshing one's soul with the beautiful, soothing
and soft words of HAFEZ and all other poets from the contry which has the
greatest wealth in literature and heritage.(not to mention oil)!
thank you and god bless
long live Iran
A joyous fellow countryman
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: !!!!!!!!!!Satan!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:06:24 GMT

In article <19NOV199214154214@elroy.uh.edu>, cosc186y@elroy.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:
|> 
|>  Ya'll gotta check out what they have at tehran.stanford.edu!
|> They got everything! Just now I got like 15 recipes, this really
|> helps me, because I'll be going back to U.T. and won't be able 
|> to get that great Iranian food that my mom makes everyday.
|> 
|> Satan.


I am very sorry you were able to access Tehran Satan,

You are not welcomed at Tehran.Stanford.EDU
As of now the entire University of Houston will not be allowed
to access Tehran.Stanford.EDU .


-- 
Farhad Shakeri
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian