From: SCW112@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: More Money than Votes
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:12:28 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <BxGzp7.IFv@acsu.buffalo.edu>, dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T
Wei) says:
>Taiwan [mostly residents]: overwhelmingly clinton (65%?)
>Hong Kong [some residents]: overwhelmingly bush (85%?)
>Mainland [mostly non-residents]: bush, but margin not that large
>
>
>Personally, as a Chinese, I believe Bush will be more beneficial to us than
>Clinton because Bush will probably maintain a better relationship with China
>than Clinton.. People often ask me "but you're in America, what do you care
>about China?" This is true in a sense, but look at the Japanese-Americans
>during WWII.. The truth is: the U.S. must pay respect to your homeland if
>you want to live happily in the U.S.A.
>
Why should we give a damn about China? Why should we give a government that
killed hundreds (thousands?) of peacefully protesting students in cold blood
most favored nation status? At least until they go democratic or at least admit
and apologize for what they did (and release the political prisoners from that
episode that are in jail today, still -- and making plenty of the goods we buy
from there through forced labor).

>
>I think the biggest split between the minority groups is "who wants what."
>Most Africans want a "united colored race" stand together against those
>"white slave owner" while most Asians do not care that much, and would much
>rather prefer personal wealth.
>
>The biggest joke here is the NAACP: they believe they represent all minority
>groups, and thus include an Asian chapter.. But most Asians do not endorse it.
>Also, the NAACP supports blacks everywhere (l.a. riots), and thus many Asians
>feel NAACP is only an organization for THEM..
>
Oh yeah. The NAACP is for "you people." Sure.

Rich, white, old-money, Republicans are not going to accept Asian Americans, Af
there's so much tension between the races today (blacks-Koreans/whites-blacks)

>Let's look at the facts: blacks mostly support clinton, asians mostly
>support bush.. blacks like educational quotas (how else can they get people
>into top schools?) and asians despise them (25% seems to be the ceiling at

Oh yeah, right. African-Americans as a whole are too stupid to get into schools
like that...they should just stick to selling crack and robbing jewelry
stores.

>Chinese immigrants should learn English before immigrating instead of coming
>here with no english and trying to change things here..

So lets not let anyone into the United States unless they speak fluent English.
That's another bias against the poor. Are you familiar with the school system
in Taiwan? (I dunno if it's similar in China) First of all, I don't think any
regional elementary school teaches English (unless it's a magnet school with
entrance examinations). The normal high schools - nope. At the universities,
sure, but you need money to go. Where is a common farmer who wants to go to the
United States going to learn English? If we had that kind of law a couple years
back, would YOU even be here?

> Something here about blacks-Asians never being able to work together deleted
  by mistake

You're right. With racist attitudes like that we'll never get along.

To have a voice in the way the United States goes today, Asian-Americans need
to align with a party that is for unity of all ethnic groups/sexual orientation
/economic status. We're not going to get ahead by trying to cuddle up to the
people with the power right now. They have the same attitudes you showed in
your post -- a drive to protect their money/power and a callousness to "others"
The people in power right now (well, not anymore, thankfully) don't care about
Asian-Americans. And even if you get ahead, other Asians won't. It's like that
old house-ni--er. He gets to sleep next door to the master and shine his shoes.
And for this ass-kissing he'll get some crumbs off the table...while the rest
of his people sweat for nothing.

Am I generalizing here -- surely. I like some Republicans. It's the old-boy,
old-money ones in power that I hate. Like our unemployed buddy Bush.

Steve Wei