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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:25:38 -0600
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From:         "David H. Hart" <HARTDH@VUCTRVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Netware for the Mac--can localtalk be used with Ethertalk?

>     I have a Quadra on our ethernet running Novell, so on the Mac, I have
> set the Network setting to Ethertalk.  Fine.  But now the two Appletalked
> printers on the Mac don't work because localtalk is no longer selected.
> I tried to put one of the Mac printers on the server, but never was
> successful--it always claimed the NEC Silentwriter was off-line or out
> of paper.  This didn't work with LPT2 or COm1.  IN any case, I have another
> Mac printer.
>     Is there any way for the Mac to use both networks?  After, it has two
> network interfaces--its Ethernet and appletalk ones.
>   We don't have a localtalk card in the server.
>   Sarah.Gray@um.cc.umich.edu

2 solutions (there are others):

1) Run the AppleTalk Internet Router on the Quadra and route between
Ethernet and LocalTalk segments (not recommended).
2) Buy a Dayna EtherPrint or similar device to convert EtherTalk to
LocalTalk.  The EtherPrint supports only 1 printer.  The EtherPrint Plus
supports up to 4, I believe.  We have 2 of the former and are pleased with
their performance.

Any PCs on the net will be able to access the printers if you load ATPS
with the proper configuration.
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From: tbc@netcom.com (Mike Garvey)
Subject: Re: "ATPS:  Printer unexpectedly not hidden"
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:36:21 GMT

In a prior missive, green@wharton.upenn.edu (Scott D. Green) eloquently
scribed this stuff:

>[...]
>
>So, anyone else ever see a printer unexpectedly not hide?  Any suggestions?  
>I'll pass them along to Company X, maybe its good for a Malcolm Baldridge 
>award or something :).

I have seen this message too, with a QMS-PS 825.  Rather than confuse the
users any more than necessary, I simply removed the -H switch from its
entry in ATPS.CFG.  This of course means that the print queue and the
printer itself show up in the chooser, but I figured this was better than
the alternative.  The five other AppleTalk printers in this zone all hide
normally.  I too would like to find out what's going on here.

(Wanders off mumbling something about the above using NetWare 3.11 and NWM
3.011 in a pretty straightforward installation)

Be seeing you...
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From:         Michael Bernardi <mike@CHILDSOC.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      IBM Token Ring 16/4 Adapter II

In article <NOVELL%93010719295613@SUVM.SYR.EDU> you write:

>Has anyone setup an IBM Token Ring 16/4 Adapter II card running TCP/IP and IPX
>via packet drivers and CUTCP?  We have set up the IBM Token Ring 16/4 Adapter c
>ard (without the II) like this:
>
>     Config.sys
>         device=c:\cutcp\dxma0mod.sys 001
>         device=c:\cutcp\dxmc0mod.sys
>         device=c:\cutcp\dxmt0mod.sys
>
>     Autoexec.bat
>         ibmtoken 0x60 0
>         pdipx (Intel's) (ver. 3.10)
>         netx  (ver. 3.26)
>
The problem is that pdipx assumes you are using genuine Ethernet_II protocol
type cards. BUT ibmtoken is a ethernet to token ring (LAN Support Program)
shim. The easiest thing to do is swap over to using the TOKEN ODI drive with
the ODITRPKT shim. FTP from datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu:/pub/oditrpkt/beta3.zip
(It may have got to beta4.zip by now :-)). I'm not 100% clear about frame
types etc BUT I do know that most TCP/IP software expects Ethernet netwaroks
:-(
MIke
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From:         KETCHUM@ASA.ORG
Subject:      Re: SystemPro questions...

Not to my knowledge.  We still have to buy the Compaq drive arrays.  They ARE
different animals.
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From:         Novell Mail Account <claris!novmail%kci.qed.cts.com@APPLE.COM>
Subject:      Tape Drive Question

        I have a question concerning the tape drive that we currently
use. Right now we have a CONTECH model M990 GCR tape unit with a model
TC4 controller.  The controller and tape unit are currently installed/
attached to a workstation that is attached to the network.  Right now
we are running Netware 2.2, but are probably going to be going to 3.11
soon.  The software that we use to do the backups right now is pretty
simple and I would like to use something better.  Will any of the
backup programs available for 3.11 (including the backups that come
with it - NBACKUP and SBACKUP it think) work with my current tape
drive, or do I have to get a new one.  We also use the tape drive
to cut mainframe tapes and would like to continue to use it for that
if possilbe.

Thanks
NiCK

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From:         "dfox3@monroe" <DFOX3@MONROE.BITNET>
Subject:      Problem Loading PS2OPT.DSK or PS2SCSI.DSK for PS/2 Model 57

Dear Folks,

I have read previous postings about the problems using a PS/2 Model 57
486SLC for a file server with interest because I had one on order for the
same mission.  I downloaded PS2OPT.DSK from Netwire in anticipation.
However, when trying to load it, I get:

     Supported Slot Values Are None
     All Supported Options Are Already In Use
         Module initialization failed
         Module PS2OPT.DSK not loaded

This disk is 216Mb.  For kicks, I tried the PS2SCSI driver as well.
If you have any ideas, I'd appreciate it.  TIA

Doug Fox
DFOX3@MONROE
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From:         Chris Teuben <CAT@RC.RUG.NL>
Subject:      TapeWare 4.0 - who?

Hello,

I'm looking for other users of TapeWare 4.0 who want to share their
experience with me.
- What is the current status of TW 4.0 (version 4.xx?)?
- Is there an Anonymous FTP site with patches and/or updates for TW 4.0?
- Any known problems with TW 4.0?

Cheers!
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From:         Feng-Chang Lu <760566@CCLD000.CCL.ITRI.ORG.TW>
Organization: CCL/ITRI, OA Dept.(Dept.# D000)
Subject:      Request a users control software for NetWare's applications

Fellow Netters,

Is there a public domain software to control the max users
concurrently running the application installed in NetWare file server?
Thanks for your idea in advance.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:09:29 -0800
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From:         Christine Moss <tmoss@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: INVALID COMMAND.COM

Is the correct command.com in one of the search paths.  We found some
software packages did not refer to comspec and by making sure that
command.com was in a search path our problems were cured.

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 074SAN@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA wrote:

> I have a problem with my command.com .If I run a package wordperfect without
> connecting to the network everything works fine and I'm able to exit the
> package normally.
> But the minute I connect to the network and then access the package I have
> the problem "INVALID COMMAND.COM SYSTEM HALTED" the instant I exit the
 package.
>
> I am  currently using msdos 5.00  and I have my comspec in my system login
 scri
> pt set to a directory on the network drive containing the same version of dos.
> Both the command.com sizes are exactly the same.
>
> Has anybody out there experienced a simalir problem and if so how did you
 solve
> it ??????
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From:         Brad Clements <BKC@DRACO.ERC.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject:      New TAGCHG.BIN for Charon 4.0

There is a new copy of tagchg.bin available via anonymous ftp from

    omnigate.clarkson.edu:pub/cutcp/charon/tagchg.bin

This one fixes a bug which caused tagchg to behave inconsistantly, ie:
not always disabling banners, etc. Be sure to download it in
binary mode.

Mirror sites -- please pick this up, omnigate won't take a crush
of folks, its just an MVax.

Many thanks to the folks at PSU who figured out what the problem
was.

---

What does your compiler do with the initialization of `ok', in this
example?

    for() {
        int ok;

        switch() {
            ok = 1;

            case 1:
                .... code ...
            default:
                .... code ...
        }
        if(ok)
            make_the_change();
    }

Sorry folks, asleep at the wheel!


|Brad Clements, CCP        bkc@draco.erc.clarkson.edu      (315)268-2292
|Sr. Network Engineer      Clarkson University             Potsdam, NY USA
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From:         JSSJ Jaroslav Bic <JSSJ@CVTNW.UPOL.CS>
Subject:      Set novell

      Dear novell friedns,
 I send to novell club this command for Listserv:

Set novell mail.


Excuse please my mistake.

      Thank you.

                       Jarda Bic

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              <SYS@ALBION.BITNET>
Subject:      Need help with Windows 3.1 on NetWare server..

Hello all,

        I'm trying to get Windows 3.1 up and running on my novell net, finally.

        Running into some problems, tho.  I'd like to know how other people
have handled them.  I'd prefer not to reinvent the whell if I don't have to.

        1)  Installing new applications:

                I need an easy way to notify users of new applications and a
        way of installing them into the user's personal configuration.

                As set up now, people have there windows file in their personal
        network directory.  This contains WIN.INI, SYSTEM.INI, etc.
        (Ala SETUP/N).  they also have their own copies of the .GRP files.

                I'm not quite sure how to go about modifying their personal
        configuration on the fly.

        2)  Using different workstations:

                We have a large (300 node +) installation.  We would like to
        give users the capability of running windows with their own
        configuration regardless of what workstation they login to.  We
        have a mix of 286, 386, and 486 machine swith monochrome and VGA
        graphics.

                I'd like to be able to load the appropiate display driver on
        startup, instead of using the one the SETUP installs.


Is any of this possible?

Any ideas are greatly appreicated.  Reply to me and I'll summarize to the net.

Thanks
Jason Ruiter
System/Network Manager
Albion College
Albion Michigan
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From:         Rick Ellis <rick@OFA123.FIDONET.ORG>
Subject:      re: dosup6.zip

On Jan 07 14:08, "Philip H. Kachelmyer" of phk@BOOMBOX.MICRO.UMN.EDU  wrote:

 > Is there REALLY a dosup6?  I find dosup5 and winup6, but I've
 > never seen a dosup6.  Jan, could you verify that the file
 > you're describing is really named dosup6?

dosup6.zip     418770  12-28-92  20:00
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:28:00 LCL
Reply-To:     Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@pcohio.wariat.org>
From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.WARIAT.ORG>
Subject:      Novell's Menu

D>From:         DDV5213@TNTECH.EDU
D>Subject:      Novell's Menu

D>I am having problems with the menu shipped with Novell 2.15.  It is trying to
D> eate a GO????.bat file and I can't control where it creates it.  I would app
D> iate any help in figuring out what these files do.

  The MENU program creates GO???.BAT and RESTART.BAT files in the
current directory when a selection is made.  If they are left all over,
this is an indication you are not being consistent in your MENU
programming.
  1.  Always start from a directory you can write and delete from
(naturally.)
  2.  Always get yourself BACK to the directory you started from so the
files can be deleted.  This is a reason to MAP ROOT a drive for each
user's personal directory.  Assuming MAP ROOT U:=SYS:USERS/%LOGIN_NAME
a snippit of a .MNU file might be:

1. WordPerfect
  F:
  CD \WP51
  WP
  CD \
  U:
2. dBase 4
  F:
  CD \DB4
  Q
  CD \
  U:
3. Quattro Pro
  U:
  Q
  U:

  Always be consistent in going to the drive, then directory, back to a
known directory, then back to the starting place.
  Of course there are many other variations on this.  You may have progs
with search drives mapped and no need to CD to program directory (No. 3
Quattro Pro) and it isn't always necessary to CD \ if you are changing
drives to execute a program, but you always know where you were left on
that drive.
  Also, if you have many search drives and are running out of letters,
dump some of them in favor of changing to the directory of the program
with the menu.

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From:         jharmer%uk.ac.ulcc.clus1@CLUS1.ULCC.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Ethernet over level 5 cable

>
>
> We are installing level 5 twisted pair cabling (100 mbit/sec) into
> a new building on our campus.  In the future we wish to run CDDI/CUDDI
>  (100 mbit/sec) protocol over this.  For now we will be using the Ethernet
> (10 mbit/sec) protocol over the level 5 cable.
> Is anyone out there running ethernet over level 5 right now??  How is it
> working?  What are common problems or patterns we should be aware of?
> On the level 5, do you need a repeater every 75 ft.?  Thanks for any info.
> Please send direct to schnepp@pepvax.pepperdine.edu      I will summarize
> for the list.
> .
>
We have a c. 200 node Ethernet mostly running on level 4 10baseT wiring. We
just put in some level 5 which performs fine. However it is less robust than
level 4 - we had a wire break caused by kak handed builders in the vicinity.
No one told me about needing a repeater every 75 feet!
John Harmer
jharmer@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk
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From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: NOT-LOGGED-IN - Getting rid of.

Ricard Wolf writes....
>
>
> All this is great, but what causes NOT-LOGGED-IN to appear in the first
> place?
>

1. Logging out (possibly)
2. Booting a diskless workstation (definately)

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
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Subject: 3C509 Packet Driver beta 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 14:24:27 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <dobbins.330.726248069@lan.ccit.arizona.edu> dobbins@lan.ccit.arizona.edu writes:

   Where is the "official" distribution and/or list where the Packet
   Driver for  the 3C509 card?  I'm using a copy of the 'f' version
   of the driver, which I  got from a location at Clarkson which no
   longer has the file.

The 'f' beta test version is still current.  I have a small fix that
I haven't published yet that lets it run on an ISA-configured 3c509
in an EISA machine.  The distribution point is now ftp.msen.com:
pub/vendor/crynwr.

The driver is still in beta test even though it has proven to be
reliable.  I want to get it working on the forthcoming 3c579, the
EISA-bus version of the card.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
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From:         DAVID CHAPMAN <ZN0CHAPMAN@NCTAMSLANT.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      RE: Windows for Workgroups

Let me put my two cents worth in on this:

About six and a half years ago, we were putting up our organization's
first BIG network and needed to evaluate the available NOS's.  (Naturally,
Novell won and for a lot of good reasons).

Anyway, we took a look at IBM's PC LAN program.  It had the ability to
let users share local disks and for some to be more "generous" than
others (e.g. being a server/client rather than just a client).  However,
the management of this thing (as well as relative speed) made it easy
to toss out as a contender.

Now we have WFW.  It is a more powerful "IBM PC LAN program", but part of
reason is due to the processors used now (80486/80386) rather than the
previous generation (80286/8088).  (Note: "we" means the LAN marketplace,
and certainly not me!)

Although WFW has MSMail and Schedule, I can get that now anyway and let them
run on my Novell server (where access is fairly easy controlled).  As a matter
of fact, as I type this, I'm in a DOS (full screen) session in WIN 3.1; in
this session I'm using Novell's async server and Procomm+.  In the background,
I've got another active task: Microsoft Mail!

Why oh why do we need WFW?  (Note: around Xmas, I was in our city's new
CompUSA store and overheard a guy complaining that there weren't any
books on WFW.  Since it was Xmas, I was charitable...)

David Chapman
NCTAMS LANT  Norfolk VA
zn0chapman@nctamslant.navy.mil
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