HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bnell@siemens.com. (Bill Nell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: problems with gcc/g++
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:31:14 GMT

bnell@siemens.com. (Bill Nell) writes:

>First I'd like to thank everyone for mailing me the crt0 & gcrt0 files.
>I've got a new problem now!  I'm writing some C++ code and I'm having
>problems with one file.  Whenever I compile it  (using gcc -c file.cc)
>the result file comes out to be like 95 bytes.  gcc doesn't report any
>errors or anything and if I try to link file.o into something it just
>complains that it can't find any of the functions in that file (obviously
>since it is only 95 bytes!)  All my other files come out correct.  The
>only difference in this file is that it is a class that uses templates.
>So, can anyone tell me what's wrong???
>						Many thanks,
>						Bill


I just tried to compile the same file I tried before here at work (on a SUN)
and it seems gcc does the same thing here!  I guess I am screwed, does
gcc 2.1 totally support templates or what??

						Bill
--
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From: mikael@terapin.com (Mikael Andersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Forbes Magazine article
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:55:18 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Jul26.193920.13519@cheshire.oxy.edu>, leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu
(Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:
>I'm sorry... A3000 and Falcon are not comparable machines.  Targeted for
>different markets.  The 3000 is clearly a superior machine.  The Falcon
>is a midrange machine targeted for a specific market... it looks like
>the perfect sound synthesis MIDI machine.  Especially if the Falcon is
>packaged in a 1040 type enclosure, the machine certainly is not targeted
>at a general market, and is not expandable for specialized hardware (not 
>that it needs much expanding... Jesus, TWO hard disk controllers built in!).
>
>Thom
>
On the Falcon the ACSI interface is removed and there's only SCSI harddisk
interface left.
 
Mikael
From: uhura.aston.ac.uk!wrighttj@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: SM125 For Sale (UK)
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:57:00 GMT
Organization: Aston University
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

Hi - Since I just purchased my friends ST, he now has a mono
monitor for sale which I didn't need. So...

SM 125 12" Hi Res monitor - 75 UK Pounds.

Birmingham area. Phone 021-779-3399 and ask for Adam.

Cheers...

-- 
Tim Wright.
wrighttj@cs.aston.ac.uk
From: ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Setting up MiNT on a TT??
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:28:16 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

In article <1992Jul20.111135.3503@arizona.edu> paul@jupiter.noname writes:
>I've been trying to get MiNT 0.94 working on my TT, but without much luck.
>In one documentation file, it says to put mint.prg in the auto folder, but
>in another file it says this doesn't work on a TT--mint has to be started
>after GEM.  But when I start it after GEM, it simply locks up the system.
>And when I run it from the auto folder, it seems to work all right (i.e., it
>runs), but then it messes up certain programs (c-kermit won't dial out and
>Gulam goes nuts).

On the TT you put mint.prg in the auto directory and the config file
(mint.cnf) in the root directory. This works fine for me. Make sure that the
config file is correct for your system.

Both Gulam and C-kermit (version 5A-Beta) work fine for me. (By the way, yet
another of my ongoing projects is a port of C-Kermit for MiNT without it
being as (unnecessarily) emasculated as the TOS version from Columbia.)

>
>Is there something I'm doing wrong?  I think I've heard of another version
>of MiNT running on a TT, but I can't find it anywhere.  Any suggestions?
>
>-Paul Harris
>paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
>

I hope this is helpful.

Steve

PS. Most of the time I don't run GEM under MiNT, I just run MiNT with my
init(8) package... my machine looks more like a Unix-box than an a Atari
ST/TT :-).
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From: adrian@robots.ox.ac.uk (Adrian Cox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mint & Gemini
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:33:52 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Oxford University
In-reply-to: malay@sae.com's message of 22 Jul 92 15:13:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.151311.12148@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:

   Is it possible (has anybody tried this?) to use Mint and Gemini at the same time??
   Can Mint startup Gemini?? 

   Bob Malay

I've experimented with this, and it works fine.  I have MiNT in \etc,
using MINT_IT.  MiNT starts up GEM, then I have Gemini installed under
the TOS 1.4 desktop to auto start.

I now use init and login, but the setup with Gemini worked fine.  The
only problem was the inability to use the job control keys with bgacc,
and of course that MiNT's debugging output trashes a GEM screen if you
use it.

- Adrian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ca806@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roger M. Selby)
Subject: dmj software
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 01:33:17 GMT


Does anyone know any kind of internet/bitnet/fnet address
for Damien M. Jones of dmj software?

-- 
Roger Selby
Selbyrog@max.cc.uregina.ca   Selbyr@meena.cc.uregina.ca
ca806@freenet
From: mike@hermes1.uucp (Mike Stramba)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Just my private little system
Subject: compressing news posts in HERMES
Summary: How do I compress my news posts using HERMES?
Reply-To: mike@hermes1.uucp
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:30:28 MET

Well I'm slowly getting my HERMES system up on its feet, with the
help of quite a few of you out there !

My question is how do I get my posts to be compressed?

Is is something I have to setup in the 'mailmode' file?

I'm receiving compressed news and it's gettig automatically decompressed ok,
so the 'compress program IS in my path.

Not that I'm uploading a lot of news, but every little bit helps save some
transmission time.

Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: f90-jos@nada.kth.se (Johan Sm}ros)
Subject: NVDI
Originator: f90-jos@byse.nada.kth.se
Reply-To: f90-jos@nada.kth.se (Johan Sm}ros)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:24:15 GMT

I would like to know about the NVDI package. Is it the best?
What does it do besides screen speed-up? Is it better than Warp 9/Quick ST and
Turbo ST?

Thanks!

Johan    f90-jos@nada.kth.se
From: prevot@smr.slb.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Trouble with MiNT 0.94 and GEM.PRG
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:48:51 GMT
Reply-To: prevot@smr.slb.com
Organization: SMR Montrouge, France.

In article <86010041@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com>, jensk@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Jens Kilian) writes:
>What INIT program are you using ? What's in your MINT.CNF file ?
>If your answers are `none' and `nothing', why are you using GEM.PRG ?
>
>	Jens.
>--

My setup seems pretty normal, since I had managed to use it for quite a time
before GEM.PRG started acting weird. Anyway, I normally start on tcsh (but I
have the same problem with the MiNT vanilla shell). In fact I'm quite happy
with not using GEM at all (although if I ever see a MiNT aware Gemini, I'm
gonna use it like hell :-), but once in a while I do need to start it in 
the middle of a session. So, I'm not starting GEM twice as it was sugested in
another posting. I cleaned up both the /auto and *.acc files, but it's still
no good.

Well, thanks to those who answered my posting. For the time being my ST is
at the doctor's: last week I had frequent bus errors out of the blue, and
the blitter died on me :-( . When I get it back I think I'll re-install
everything, including MiNT - perhaps that'll take care of my problems...
(l'espoir fait vivre!).

By the way, someone suggested here the creation of a MiNT FAQ. I most
emphanticaly support this :-). Items could be: installation, links & the
universal drive, MGR, GNUstuff, etc.


Greetings from France,

Nicolas Spengos   (aka. Zorbec le Gras)
spengos@germinal.ibp.fr
spengos@envvx1.SINet.SLB.COM (expires August 14th)
From: Chuck.Grimsby@p1.f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Chuck Grimsby)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Passing parameters?????? 8^)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:14:56 -0600

In a message of 28 Jul 92  19:42:31, Paul Harris wrote:
PH> A week or two ago I posted what I thought was a rather simple qustion, but
PH> maybe it's
PH> more complicated than I thought, being as I got no replies.  I just wanted
PH> to know how to pass parameters to a .TTP program, specifially using GFA
PH> Basic, if possible.

Sorry, I must of missed your post.  Normally, I answer what GFA questions I can
as soon as I can.

Assuming your program is named "OPPS.TTP" and is in the current directory, you
can pass the command string "Hi There" this way:

a%=EXEC(0,"OPPS.TTP","Hi There","")

a% will contain a 0 if everything went all right, or a TOS error code if TOS had
a problem, like finding the OPPS.TTP program.  If the program you ran returns an
error code, a% will contain that.

If "OPPS.TTP" isn't in the current directory, simply add in the appropriate
drive and path inbetween the quote marks (i.e "C:\OPPS\OPPS.TTP").

The third set of quote marks in the above example are for setting enviornment
strings.  Personally, I've never had much luck with that though, so I generally
just leave them as empty quotes as I did above.


Re-reading your message, I see that you might be asking how a GFA program can
read in a command line passed to it, rather then having GFA pass a command line
to another program which the above discribes.  This too is rather easy:

command$=STRING$(0,255)
BMOVE BASEPAGE+128,VARPTR(command$),255

command$ will now hold whatever commands were passed to your GFA program. The
command line, if less then 255 characters long, will be null filled (CHR$(0)s)
in command$, so you will probably want to 'trim' it to just what the user
entered by using:

command$=LEFT$(command$,INSTR(command$,CHR$(0))-1)

Hope this helps, sorry for the delay.

 * Origin: FlightLine PointNet Point 1 (1:282/47.1)
From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Difference between SCSI and SCSI 2?
Date: 28 Jul 1992 12:58:49 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul27.122717.20063@crc.ac.uk> naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what the difference between SCSI (1) and SCSI 2 is?
>Or for that matter the difference between SCSI and for example IDE?
>(apart from the fact that they use different connectors)

	Sure.

	SCSI-1:  First SCSI standard - specified an 8-bit bus that has a peak
throughput of 4MB/s, with a maximum of 8 SCSI devices possible (though one is
designated controller with the other 7 slave devices).  It uses a 50-pin ribbon
cable or a 50-pin Centronics style cable, or Apple uses a 25 pin cable.

	SCSI-2:  Next major release of the SCSI standard.  Specifies 16-bit bus
(but can handle 8-bit devices for backward compatibility) and, between two 
fully SCSI-2 compliant devices, can reach peak transfer rates of 16MB/s, with a
sustained transfer rate of up to 10MB/s.  SCSI-2 provides for multiple acces-
sing of devices on the SCSI bus - data can be written from one device to up to
7 other devices (SCSI-2 maintains the 8 device limit) simultaneously, but they
all get the same info.  I believe (not sure about this one) that each SCSI-2
device can become bus master, so DMA between SCSI-2 devices is possible.
SCSI-2 uses the same cabling as SCSI-1.

	IDE:  This is the successor to the MFM/RLL drives.  It can pretend to
be any MFM/RLL device of the same (or lesser) size, and will automatically 
translate the heads/sec.per track/cylinders to the correct values of the media
transparently to the computer.   It is an 8-bit bus, with maximum 4MB/s (I 
think, but never saw it of course) with a maximum of 2 devices that can be
connected to the same controller.  Their primary advantage is the cheap cost
of manufacture (and the subsequent cheap resale price).  IDE uses a 40pin
ribbon connector (I have yet to see an external IDE drive, so that may be the
only valid type of cable).

>Thanks
>Phil
>(E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc)

	No prob.

-Mike
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Falcon
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:42:00 GMT

Umm... we should see working models of the Falcon on sale in the next
two or three weeks.  I know of few dealers who would be telling their 
customers, Oh yeah, I'm gonna be carrying that if the machine was really
vapor.  Besides, the most recent stats I've seen are too consistent and
realistic to not be believed.

Thom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon price
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:11:22 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Jul21.145122.665@news2.cis.umn.edu>, davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.025646.6776@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>>My next machine will be a PC clone, it is a simple as that...
>>Roger..............              sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
>
>Anyone else willing to kick in a buck to get Mr. Sheppard an Intel-clone
>machine?  I'd just as soon he left this newsgroup permanently, given the tone
>of his postings.
>
>The Falcon hasn't even been OFFICIALLY announced yet, and he's complaining
>about the price and the lack of documentation and software!!
>
>-- David Paschall-Zimbel

No I am refering to that Dirty word Atari here, NO SUPPORT AT ALL,
No Sotware no Books, zilch...

Take your head out of the sand and live, Atari is Dead...!!!


Roger..............            sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: euro@eurobs.bs.open.de (Eugen-Roland Rohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: BJ10ex installed in desktop?
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: euro@eurobs.bs.open.de
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992

In <9445@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, Warwick Allison writes:
|naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
|
|>Just a quick question this time.
|>Is there any way to install a Canon BJ10ex on the desktop?
|>The menu only has dot matrix or daisy wheel printers on.
|
|Setting the BJ to Epson mode (see the manual - it's a DIP switch) may
|make the built-in "Epson, Final, Dot Matrix..." set-up work.
|
Why?
BJ normaly 'imitates' an old IBM-Mode, that's enough to emulate a
dot matrix printer. You just have to switch the atari-internal set-up
to Epson, not more, when you have a big BJ (for A3-Papier), there is
no change nessesary!

     Euro



-- 
Eugen-Roland Rohn
euro@eurobs.bs.open.de
Tel: +49 531 342517 (voice)
From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mouse creep.....
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:09:22 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <4561@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> woocm@essex.ac.uk (Chris Wood) writes:
>	I have a problem that started some time ago but is getting
>more frequent. My mouse creeps around the screen! I have changed
>my mouse lately, but it did it before that.

How old is your ST? If it's a 520ST (no F,M or E) then it probably has a
revision 1 keyboard chip which suffers from mouse 'drift'.

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From: Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: NVDI
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:26:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: MS.A44499
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Frank Dahncke wrote:

>Well, as a speeder it is a waste of money, but if you need a decent GDOS, go
>for it. I used THEIR OWN BENCHMARKS, and Turbo ST 1.8 beat each and every
>one of them (there are over 20) with and without Blitter (I own a 4MB 1040
>STe). If anyone is interested, I can post the result files. Mind you, these
>benchmarks are supplied *with* NVDI ! Needless to say, I was very
>dissapointed as I hate GDOS in all forms.

1st: Did you ever try to run Turbo ST on non-standard resolutions like
Overscan? It doesn't work  --> put it into the shredder.
NVDI replaces the vdi screen driver, which is the one and _only_ (!!!) clean
way of implementing a screen speeder. Unfortunately, NVDI is the only of 'em
that does it the right way, as I know.

Additionally: There's no reason to hate GDOS if you don't mind working with an
ATARI, generally.

Regards
 Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: brayl@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Rayl)
Subject: Re: Falcon
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:19:22 GMT


Ed,

:) ....Since you asked... the software I'd want to see o the Falcon that
we dont have are products like PhotoShop and ColorStudio.  Retouche Color&
Design comes kinda close, but costs $2,000, and doesn'thave al the
features of PhotoShop of Colorstudio, and they sell for between $350-500,
depending on where youbuy the packages from.

I'd also like to see the CD ROM references available on the ST/Falcon
line.  I'd like to see something like the Mac CD FunHouse available
for Atari owners.  I'd liketo see the EPS clip art colletions available
on the new computer.  I'd like to see a more flexible database than we
have ow with SuperBase Pro and Tracker.  Anew spreadsheet program would
be nice.

Finally, I'd liketo see some of thw wiz-bang new ames available for the
IBM and Amiga platforms come over to the Falcon -- after all, Atari is
suppsed to be a game system, and we aren't even getting new games. :(

(don't blame me..Ed asked :) )
                                Pattie Rayl
From: MEBEB@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ST cartridges?
Date: 20 Jul 92 09:04:37 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

In article <BrEq3K.7GI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, wmagro@uiuc.edu (William Magro) says:
>RAM disk cartridges,

Really? Any idea where I can get one of these from? Also, what size are they,
and how well do they perform given they have to get round the problem of
writing to the cartridge port?

Kev
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rrk@vixen.uucp (24115-kutz)
Subject: Re: ST Format Fire and Ice demo 
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:03:10 GMT
Summary: things do work

In article <92204.113001MEBEB@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>, MEBEB@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:
> To be fair, I guess that many of the people who write these programs aren't
> aware that the US has a different video setup...
and some good points about US sources of software.

I just wanted to mention again that Fire and Ice works when you
change the video to 50 hz (and the program to do that is included
in that same issue of ST Format.)

Also, I went back to the April? issue of ST Format to try
to extract the Penguins game, and experienced the same problem on my
STe (would not extract - it claimed the diskette was write protected);
however, it DID work on my STfm (tos 1.0), and the game extracted
successfully on the first try on the older machine.  Its an STe or tos
problem.

I am actually quite pleased with ST Format, but I am a general user,
not a power user.  

Randy Kutz

Randy Kutz    Bellcore       ..!bellcore!vixen!rrk
                            or rrk@vixen.cc.bellcore.com
From: yonder.equinox.gen.!shore@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari ST -> Commie 1084 monitor
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:23:00 GMT
Organization: Equinox Networks, ChCh, New Zealand * Private Node: Yonder
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In <1992Jun25.061910.11708@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 writes:
>In article <1992Jun22.163013.26809@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, 
cs902117@juno.ariel.yorku.ca (ToneSTer) writes:
>>Hi all!  Thanks to Ben Gilbert, and some spare time on my hands, I managed 
to 
>>put together a monitor cable to hook up the ST to my Commodore 1084 
monitor.
>>I have run into a small problem with it...  I hooked up everything the way 
it 
>>should be, and there was nothing on the screen.  Then I accidentally wired 
up
>>a pin labelled "monochrome" to a color pin (Blue) and the cable now works, 
BUT,
>>I don't have BLUE!!!!
>>
>>   ____
>>    / o n y.
>
>You can't do this, you must use the Scart if it has one, or go though
>23 pin 'D' type Amiga monitor connector..
>
>Do you have the pin outs for this..??
>
>You can't use the RGBI input...

Hmm, your reply is very confusing Roger... and i'm using the setup!!!

All you need to do is to use the cable that goes to the monitors
 9 pin D connector, which, I believe, on the other end of it, has
 the 23 pin connector to go into an Amiga.

I guess all you need to do is chop off the Amiga 23-pin D connector,
 and wire up a plug for the ST/E

The Monitor itself, can run in digital or analog RGB mode, it has a 
 switch on the back of it for that, *only the one input socket*

It also has an RCA video input, and a chroma one as well, and
 of course, the audio RCA jack/s.
Neat for hooking your video into to watch TV on your monitor!!! :-)

 Craig.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ca806@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roger M. Selby)
Subject: Re: Weekly Posting of New Stuff
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 05:04:08 GMT


Pretty pathetic list. Does anyone know when the tons of stuff
in the new directory at umich.edu will get processed?
-- 
Roger Selby
Selbyrog@max.cc.uregina.ca   Selbyr@meena.cc.uregina.ca
ca806@freenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: brayl@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Rayl)
Subject: Re: Atari Something (?) Magazine
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Atari, Advantage, magazine, ST Informer
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 14:42:05 GMT


Hiya Mike! :)

Well, you may get your wish soon! Apparently, Jack's back with a vengeanc
,
Everyone seems to parallel this with '77 and 

when Jack was at Commodore.  The basic gist f the article is that Atari
was once a Forbes 400 company, and now it's stock is bumping along at
$1.50.  The article  also spells out how Atari doesn't have enough
money to launch the Falcon and Jaguar.  So, my feeling is that unless

Jack is willing to dip into his millions to keep Atari afloat, game over.
Jack can still pull it off, but he's got t be willing  to spend some of
his own personal fortune to do it.

               Pattie Rayl (Atari Interface)