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From: marshall@seas.gwu.edu (Christopher Marshall)
Subject: Re: HARD TRUTHS FOR PETER CAPELL
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:31:00 GMT

Ali Eslami writes:

>Dear Peter;
>
>Technically,   neither  this  system  nor the one in  Iran  has  democratic
>mechanism.   In  a  true  democratic  system  people  have  referendum  for
>everything  government  decides  to do.  When was the  last  time  American
>people have referendum on how to spend their tax money? Even though both of

Not true.  Majoritarianism means referendum on everything, democracy means
rule of the people.  Rule of the people means that power is exercised by the
people, but does not imply that everything is decided by majority vote.
For example, the bill of rights guarantees the people the freedom of speech
and assembly, and when individuals exercise that right, they are exercising
their power.  This the very essence of democracy. It is a very far cry from
a referendum on everything.

Chris Marshall
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi)
Subject: TAKING AN AUTO TO IRAN
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:56:12 GMT


SalAm DoostAn:

A friend of mine is looking into the possibility of taking his car with him to
Iran.  I know people with at least a master degree are allowed to do this, but 
don't know the detail.  He would very much appreciate any information and 
especially if someone has already done this and doesn't mind sharing the
experience.  He has alot of questions, such as the duty, the best way to ship
(i.e. is it cheaper to ship directly to Iran, or to Europe and drive the rest of
the way), what kind of cars are not allowed (if any), ... .


BA SepAs


Hossien Amehdi
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From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: UNHRC condemns the Khomeini regime AGAIN--Victory for the Resistance
Keywords: Yet another victory for the Resistance
Date: 26 Sep 92 04:02:41 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:

>In article <nabeel.717391081@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:
>>   You claim that MAKING women wear hijab hurts them and so it is haram?
>>The restrictions on the Islamic leadership authority is violating Islam.
>>Therefore, regardless of Islamic dress codes, if the leadership believed
                                     --------  
>>that dressing women head to toe is |better| then it is up to the leadership
                                     --------
>>to make it a law. (Koran does NOT say do NOT cover x, y, z.) You may
>>prove me wrong if you can. The leader DOES have authority over citizens.
>>

>The fundamental difference in opinion I believe is how one views a government
>or leader of a nation.  Nabeel states above that as long as the law does
>not violate Islam, the government can make a law.  Now to extend this, I
>would expect that the government may decree that all people must use blue
>toothbrushes or that (halal) chicken may only be roasted but not fried, etc.
>The silly examples are given to illustrate laws which are perfectly within
>the boundaries of Islam but impose restrictions on individuals without
>yielding socially benefical results.

   There is a little problem here, you seemed to have failed to notice that
I said if the leadership believed it was ***better,*** it is emphasized above. I
also do not mean they elect a moron or a crazy guy to be the leader.

**
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mmm@philabs.philips.com (Mehran Moshfeghi)
Subject: Re: Professor HesAbi is dead
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:06:11 GMT

In article <hf7.gqcuq@lab.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:
>
>
>Professor HesAbi, the most famous Iranian physicist and the only
>Iranian student of Einstein is dead. He was the founder of Tehran
>University and the Atomic Energy center of Iran among other
>institutions. He lived in and served Iran after completing his
>studies. PaymAn once posted an informative article about Professor
>HesAbi. I think this is a good occasion to re-post it (or perhaps
>you have a more recent one).
>         
> - Farzin
>                      
>            

I was in Tehran early September, where I was attending the Physical
Society of Iran conference. On the last day of the conference,
September 3, the conference committee gave  the yearly "Professor
Hessabi" awards to three students who had carried out outstanding
projects in Iran. However, prior to the ceremony the sad news was
announced that doctors in Switzerland had lost hope for Professor
Hessabi. His death was announced later.


Mehran

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bahman@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bahman Khamneian)
Subject: Boeing 737-400 purchase
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:23:48 GMT


From Aviation Week & Space Technology (9/28/92):

Iran Air has signed a contract with Boeing for 16 
Boeing 737-400s powered by CFM56-3C engines, subject to the 
lifting of export restrictions by U.S. government,
according to Iran Air documents in the U.S. Court of Appeals,
Washington. Lawyers for Iran Air have been attempting
to clear legal obstacles  to the sale.

From Aviation Week & Space Technology (10/5/92): 

Iran Air has eliminated one court obstacle to its
planned acquisition of 20 Boeing 737-400s, four 
on option. The airline obtained an indefinite stay against the
levy of a $100,000 fine and a trade embargo related to
a U.S. Commerce Dept. case. U.S. court of Appeals, Washington,
D.C., issued the stay, pending the outcome of a
federal court case stemming from an alleged 1985 violation of 
U.S. export laws. Commerce alleged Iran Air imported
a U.S.-made Fluke signal generator from Germany. The U.S.
has prohibited export of civil aircraft to Iran since 1979.
From: scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk (M.G)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: MKO and their positions
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:11:54 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
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From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: What is MKO position on the Islands?

Ala writes:

I was wondering what is the position of Mujaahedin
with regard to the 3 Iranian islands now being claimed
by different Arab states?  Usually our resident MKO supporters
are very quick in declaring their positions on national and international
issues, whoever, I have not heard anything regarding this issue.
-----------------------------------------------------------

They never declare their positions because they do not want
to upset their master SADDAM and they do not want FAHAD 
to be angry and cut their fund.


M.G.
Cardiff,Wales,U.K.
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From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Iran J's in Jail Paper banned
Date: 26 Sep 92 01:45:01 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <1473400014@igc.apc.org>, pnmideast@igc.apc.org writes:
> the sentencing of M. Karimzadeh and Naser Arabha, who appear to have been
> arrested and tried for having exercised their right to free expression.
> 
> According to our information "Farad" cartoonist, Mr. M. Karimzadeh, and the
> director of the magazine, Mr. Naser Arabha, were arrested on April 11,
> 1992.  They were both sentenced by a special tribunal to one year and six
> months imprisonment because of a cartoon that was published in the
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> magazine.  All copies of the  publication were pulled from news-stands and
> the Minister of Culture and Islamic Orientation suspended the publication
> in April and on September 16 permanently banned "Farad".
> 

What was that cartoon about? What is the opposite version of  these events?

Asad.
From: suzi@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Suzan Ehdaie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan :  Abadan, Shush, Dezful...
Keywords: Re: What to talk about -- Nun Baaghsaami...
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:35:24 GMT
Followup-To: Konar
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

In article <1992Oct6.043437.12129@netcom.com> bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>
>bengesht ---> gonjeshk?
>konar    ---> these tehrani people call it 'zAl-zAlak'
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>tonokah  ---> I remember tonekeh, it meant underwear!
>balam    ---> special boat
>
>May I add the ones I vividly remember:  'seyko' and of course 'volek.'
>
>
>Regrads,
>Hooshyar F. Naraghi  still infactuated with Abadan!
>bavafa@netcom.com
>(415) 322-8056

Hello,

Konar is not zAl-zAlak.  They are different fruits.  Infact, I remember that 
Tehranis didn't know what Konar is and once I give some konar to my friends 
in Tehran and they didn't like the taste.  Perhaps, they weren't used to such
taste.  The konar subject reminds me of my childhood where we always became 
excited seeing a konar tree and then collecting a handfull of konars with 
our shirts!!!!  And eating them with pleasure :-)


-Suzan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian.indian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: India wants permanent U.N. Security Council seat
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:39:28 GMT


	NEW DELHI, India (UPI) -- A foreign ministry official said Saturday
that India has formally staked its claim to a permanent seat in the
United Nations Security Council, contending the present membership
structure is unfair.
	The spokesman said the claim was made by Indian Minister of State for
Foreign Affairs Eduardo Faleiro Friday while addressing the U.N. General
Assembly in New York.
	Faleiro departed from his prepared text to demand an expansion of the
Security Council's permanent membership, the spokesman said.
	Japan and Germany also have staked their claim to a permanent seat in
the council on the basis of their economic power.
	India has demanded a change in council membership criteria, arguing
that at present nuclear might appeared to be the sole determinant of
permanent membership. All the five acknowledged nuclear-weapon states
have permanent seats on the council.
	India, which has demonstrated its nuclear-weapons capability by
detonating an atomic device, has contended that as home to more than
one-seventh of the global population it had a right to be represented
permanently on the council.


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From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Victim Responsibility
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 10:57:09 GMT
Organization: Humanity

In article <28600015@hplred.HP.COM> moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi) 
writes:
>fardoun_a@cubldr.colorado.edu has the gall to write:
>
>
>>In article <1992Sep23.022904.11857@athena.mit.edu>, nsohrabi@athena.mit.edu
(Naghmeh Sohrabi) writes: 
>>> My question is that why is it that I was harrassed more in Iran, covered
>>> up from
>
>
>(stuff deleted)....
>
>>> be and try to somehow touch or rub anywhere close to it.  Of course this is aside
>>> from those who attack from behind.  I actually had to ask a guy to take his hand
>>> out from under me in a taxi. 
>>
>>> Either my hijab was "defective" and thus not "doing
>>> the job well" or something else is wrong with your reasoning behind what hijab
>>> does or does not do in society.
>>> Anyway, I'd appreciate an answer very much.
>>
>>I know others who were in Iran recently; all has complains but none has any 
>>complains like the one you stated above. in the above story I would think that 
>>the only problem might be yourself. you should check that.
>
>You have quite a nerve, mister!
>
>How can you so blindly and arbitratily shift blame for the harrassment
>this lady is speaking of to herself?

I tell you how, AghA javAd.  It's called "victim responsibility."  First
we victimize innocent people.  When they complained, we would blame them
for their shortcomings.

Mayor Koch (?) explained it the same way when there was a racial incident
in New York where few blacks were beaten to death by bunch of whites who
argued their neighborhood was _traditionally_ a white one and had no room 
for blacks.

Mayor said (I am paraphrasing):  One should understand that Blacks knew
in advance that this was a white area, and that if they crossed the
neighborhood 'khAhi nakhAhi' they would face some problems.  It was the
responsibility of the victims to make sure that they didn't come to this
white neighborhood.  You see discrimination originates from one and only one
basic source that it preys from.  It seems they all read and implement their 
victimizing operation from the same text book, although the packaging
apparantly seems different.

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: perwaiz@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Jim Perwaiz)
Subject: Physics Problem - nice change
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:31:58 GMT

Concerning the problem: which one will freeze first
the warmer or cooler water. 

Why don't you guys just TRY IT ?

BTW, see Heat Transfer by Holman or Convectiopn Heat Transfer
by Bejan.  This problem and some similar ones are listed there.

Heat transfer (rate) really depends on the temperature
GRADIENT - that's is the key !  Make two cups of tea/coffee 
and put milk in one of them and come back and drink both
cups - guess which one is cooler ?


With Best wishes.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.german
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Germany to commemorate launch of first Nazi rocket despite protests
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:07:15 GMT

	BERLIN (UPI) -- German aerospace interests said Saturday they were
planning to celebrate the 50th anniversary of first rocket launch in
Nazi Germany despite international criticism.
	Scientists working for the Nazi German government sucessfully tested
an A-4 rocket which flew for 2.5 miles at a research center in the
Baltic city of Peenemuende on Oct. 3, 1942.
	The A-4 was the precursor to the V-2 rocket, which carried a ton of
explosives, used by the Germans against Britain during the World War II.
	The Nazis launched 1,120 V-2s against Britain between September 1944
and April 1945, killing 2,855 civilians.
	``We are not celebrating the creation of miracle weapon or a weapon
of war,'' said Folkhard Oelwein, speaker for Germany's Federal
Association of Aerospace Industrial Suppliers.
	Oelwein said the ceremony at Peenemuende was to commemorate the birth
of manned and un-manned space travel. The anniversary celebration is
being organized by his association under the auspices of the Federal
Economics Ministry in Bonn.
	He said the Oct. 3, 1942 rocket test had been aimed at ``free space
and not against England'' and the test rocket did not carry any
explosives.
	International criticism of the celebration at the Peenemuende
rocketry center -- now a museum on the Baltic island of Usedom -- has come
especially from Britain and Italy.
	In Britain, Conservative member of Parliament Winston Churchill,
grandson of the wartime prime minister, told the Mirror newspaper: ``I
urge them to think again.
	``The very idea that anyone could commemorate a wepaon system which
terrorized and killed civilians I find incredible,'' he said.
	The planned celebration at Peenemuende will take place on Germany's
Day of Unity national vacation. East and West Germany were unified on
Oct. 3, 1990, after which the East German state ceased to exist.


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From: lbs@tkmhp2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Lech Borkowski)
Subject: Re: Germany to commemorate launch of first Nazi rocket despite protests
Reply-To: lbs@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: soc.culture.german
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:29:46 GMT

In article <ALTI.92Oct1153627@tanera.dcs.ed.ac.uk> alti@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Thorsten Altenkirch) writes:

>The use of the V2 against was a crime as well, however it was much
>less effective (about 2.000 civilians got killed by it). One could
		       ^^^^^ 	
>argue that the successful launch of the V2 was a breakthrough in
>rocket technology which got used for good and for bad things later. In

 Why don't you count the 20000 slave workers who perished during
their work in Peenemuende? 

>Thorsten Altenkirch		LFCS, Edinburgh

 Lech Borkowski
lbs@neptune.phys.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Iranian Women Names After Marriage
Keywords: Family names of women
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 23:40:28 GMT

sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>American girls are thought to honor and love their husbands.

Disagree. In my opinion American women (ON AVERAGE) have less family
values than Iraniam women and do not "love and honor" their husbands
as much.

>Whereas,
>Iranian girls are thought to break their husbands and put a saddle behind
>their husband's back!

I have never met nor do I know of such a woman.

>This is one of the most important reasons that many
>Iranian man usually escape from Iranian women.

Those men must be nuts!

>I believe, this fact
>even has contributed to more than %40 single rate in Iran.

This is a fallacy.

>The problem
>is that the potential mother-in-laws, while teaching their daughter how to
>correctly saddle their future husbands, have forgotten to tell their daughters
>that you should catch a horse first, then you could saddle him.  Therefore,
>you see these amateur horse trainers approach the Iranian men with saddle in
>hand! -:)

Speaking from self experience, eh?

So you finally confessed how you got your nickname. Congratulations
Mr. Sehari.

>                             With highest regards,
>                                  Babak   Sehari.

In my humble opinion, Iranian women are unmatched on this planet.

    --mack

--
She's closing her eyes, then she takes me away,
and she's pulling the strings, when she's playing with love.
She's playing with love.                       --Alphaville
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Another Poem by : Ramin Sepehr
Date: 26 Sep 92 05:51:50 GMT
Organization: UB

DoostAn , 

Here is another poem. I didn't bother putting the english translation
because it's 2:00 in the morning and I really think I can use some sleep. I
hope you enjoy it(send me mail if you need translation):

az Ayeeneh cheh Entezari dAram ...
Joz inkeh chehreyeh palideh marA zeebA neshan dahad
Joz inkeh sad chehreyeha-yeh marA dar yek kalAm efshA makonad

dar jarfayeh Ayeeneh andishidam 
beh roozy keh khodam rah yaftam
Angah beh khod Amadam vah daryAftam
Keh An jarfA faghat chand angoshti door nist 
vah Ancheh keh YAftam, man nabood , 
balkeh chehreyeh palideh man keh bA
kimiyaye kheradmandAn ArAyesh shodeh bood
Vah An Arayesh hamee barAyeh chand sabAhee omr nakhAhad kard

Az Toe cheh entezari dAram ...
Joz inkeh Eshgheh marA bepazeery 
vah dar khAterateh mAh shareek shavi
vah dar Ash-Areh mAh, Jadeyeh Ghafyeh-hA rA bAz koni
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.italian,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.korean
From: bernd@cc.uow.edu.au (Bernd Wechner)
Subject: Make a friend today, send a postcard to Oz ...
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 04:33:33 GMT

I just started to stick some old postcards on the wall at home and found
it growing into a very interesting collage, or wallpaper of sorts even. A 
great deal of interest value and a dash of nostalgia for me personally as 
well. Now although I had a fair stack, I was a little surprised at how small 
a postcard is and how large a wall is. 

So, I'd like to invite you to send me a postcard for which I will:

a) be eternally grateful
b) send one back (if desired)
c) invite you around for a cup of tea, a chat and even to stay a few days 
   (if you like ...)

Just think, you'll make your mark on my wall, and my life, and maybe
even make a friend for life. Or then again, maybe just a postcard for
your own wall ;-).

To join the revolution, just mail a postcard to me here:

Bernd Wechner
5 Charles Avenue
Minnamurra 2532
Australia

Remembering to include your own name and address if you like and see
what interesting things you can add to that. 

All the best then, and here's hoping we have some friendly people with
some motivation in the audience tonight ;-).

Ciao,

Bernd.
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Desert man's opinions about me...
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:07:07 GMT
Organization: UB

desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:

>All the years I have read, posted, etc. to this newsgroup I have seen many
>come and go... And I must confess that you are a rare one, Mr. Sepehr!  You're
>so involved in yourself and your mighty ego (perhaps due to your young age and
>lack of knowledge of yourself and the world around you) that you have 
>completely lost the sense who you are indeed communicating with in this 
>medium!

You come up with the advice that I jump to conclusion too fast and all of 
a sudden you, yourself, conclude your philosphical opinion about me. 
What do you know about me?? From one article you conclude that I have 
lost myself? Is that fair? 
You better fix yourself before you give someone else an advice.

>Hmmm... You're entitle to your opinion... My suggestion is to read the same
>quote a few more times with attention, and then make a conclusion...

I suggest you to stop reading "years of articles" of this newsgroup. Because
neither that nor Einstein's quotes makes you or me a scientist or a 
philosopher. 

>Best wishes...

Same here ...

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