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From: short@asf.com (Lee Short)
Subject: Re: another .emacs problem
Organization: ASF
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:04:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.193157.15462@engage.pko.dec.com> ewanco@kalvin.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>I discovered why my .emacs file was functioning correctly when evaluated in a
>buffer but not upon startup.  Well, I take that back, I discovered how to fix
>it, I'm not sure I understand why it did fix it, though.
>
>Someone mailed me this suggestion: 
>----------
>From:	DECWRL::"ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com" "Andy Norman"  2-SEP-1992 05:00:10.94
>...
>My guess is that you are doing something that is either terminal or
>window-system specific.
>
>Look for any lines that attempt to access X11, mouse, termianl-specific
>variables.  Wrap them in a function, then assign that function to either
>term-setup-hook or window-setup-hook... for example:
> ...
>-----------------
>This worked perfectly.  ...


My educated guess is that this has to do with the *order* of execution
of the three files Emacs loads upon startup.  Your local .emacs is
loaded first.  Next is loaded the terminal init file.  Last is loaded
the local default init file (default.el or .elc or some such name).
It is likely that your .emacs contains code which is dependent upon
the loading of the local default init file or the terminal init file.
What the above code likely does is to delay the execution of the
functions in question until these init files are loaded.  There is
another, more direct way to do this (and its also useful if you have
other reasons for wanting your .emacs loaded after these two files, as
I do -- specifically, because I want to override some definitions made
in default.el):

-----
(load "./term/vt100.el") 		; first load the terminal file
(load "default")	 		; next load the default init
(load "~/.my_emacs")
(setq inhibit-default-init t)		; inhibit loading of default init
(setq term-file-prefix nil)		; inhibit loading of terminal file
-----

This is a nearly exact clone of my .emacs.  There may be a way to specify
the terminal file in a generic way, but I don't know it offhand.  

Lee
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From: mjk@greisen.physics.utah.edu (Matthew J. Kidd)
Subject: Can I have more than one initialization file?
Keywords: .emacs, bindings
Organization: Cosmic Ray Physics Group, University of Utah
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:04:03 GMT

I use emacs on two different terminals. In each case I have customized
the key bindings to correspond with some of the special keys in obvious
ways. 

I would like to create a couple of aliases that invoke emacs with different
initialization files. However, I don't see any way of getting emacs to use a
different initialization file (other than .emacs) save for that of another
user via the -u command line option. I could probably get around this
problems using soft links, but it would be more elegant if emacs could handle
it directly.

Even better, would be if the code in the initialization file could pick
out the TERM enviroment variable and execute different code on that 
basis. If this is possible, I would appreciate advice and code. My lisp
experience goes little further than changing keybindings.
From: bruce@supr.scm.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: Dired & Ange-Ftp
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:14:06 GMT
	<MARCA.92Sep13034822@wintermu.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: gnu.emacs.help
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

>>>>> On 13 Sep 92 08:48:22 GMT, marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen) said:

> You don't have to backspace over the existing path.  Just append:

>         '/~/myfilename'

You don't even need the initial '/'.  It *would* be nice, however, if
it prompted with the directory of another dired window, if one were
opened on the screen.  Often I want to copy or move a bunch of files,
and I have a dired for each directory, so this would be convenient.

--
Bruce Stephens.  Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Liverpool Univ.
Internet: bruce@uxb.liv.ac.uk     JANET: bruce@uk.ac.liv.uxb
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From: aed@netcom.com (Andrew Davidson)
Subject: Re: etags -t bug on typedef struct ?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 17:30:28 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


while we are on the topic of etags, I know there are aleast three
version of etags out there. the one distributed with emacs, the one
distributed with tags++. Tags++ is supposed to support c++. and the
final version is distributed with c++_browse. As anyone tried to
intergrate these? 

I was going to try to play around with these a bit today. for example
find-tag  in tag.el is easier to use than find-tag in browse.el. If
anyone is intereseted I will post any changes I make

Andy


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From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Rev
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:32:48 GMT

Is there a command that will reverse the order of characters in a
region line by line

e.g


acgt
tgca
tgcc

should read

tgca
acgt
ccgt

after execution.


Thanks

George

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From: ATAE@spva.PHysics.imperial.ac.UK (The Maverick)
Subject: Elisp Fortran2C anyone ??
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:18:00 GMT

G'Day

Can anyone point me toward an f2c converter in Elisp ? 
The f2c S/W from AT&T is very good, but you can't really
edit the code it produces. Any help, advice, or pointers 
to hackable source will be much appreciated.

	best regards
		Ata <(|)>.

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From: jaeho@engin.umich.edu (Jaeho Lee)
Subject: load-libray
Reply-To: jaeho@caen.engin.umich.edu
Organization: Distributed Intelligent Agents Group (UM-DIAG)
Distribution: gnu
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:11:10 GMT

How can I find exactly which file (full-path name) is loaded when I
'load-libray'?
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From: dsg@blackbird.mitre.org (David S. Goldberg)
Subject: Re: set environment variables within emacs
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:44:13 GMT


>>>>> In article <9209110054.AA12527@accura_nc.aisg.com>,
>>>>> keith@aisg.COM (Keith B. Kee {AISG} ) writes:

Keith> How can I do a setenv operation in emacs? For instance, I want
Keith> to do a "setenv LD_OPTIONS '-y_test' " before I compile a
Keith> program.

The easiest thing to do is rebuild emacs with MAINTAIN_ENVIRONMENT
defined in your src/config.h.  This provides you with a setenv
command.
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From: scott@statsci.com (Scott Blachowicz)
Subject: Re: sendmail.el: flags to /usr/lib/sendmail wrong?
Reply-To: scott@statsci.com
Organization: Statistical Sciences, Inc., Seattle, WA USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:24:08 GMT

>>>>> "me" == Scott Blachowicz <scott@statsci.com>

 me> When I send mail (C-x m: mail) to a particular user, I get a message back
 me> that looks like this:

 me>     Subject: returned mail for "| /usr/local/bin/filter"

 me>     Mail error was: 554 <"| /usr/local/bin/filter">... Cannot mail directly to programs

 me>     --- returned mail follows ---

 me> He has a .forward file that runs the filter program from the elm
 me> distribution.

 me> Any clues as to what might need changing in the SPARC's sendmail.cf file?
 me> or other ways to work around this?
Right after I posted that I remembered a possible cause (commenting out the OR
option line out of Sun's sendmail.cf file). That seems to have fixed the
problem. After perusing Per Hedeland's list of problems with the OR option, it
seems that it is a good idea to leave it commented out.

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From: krishna@shamu.csd.sgi.com (Krishna Sethuraman)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: What's a prefix argument?
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:53:55 GMT
	<1992Sep1.044936.10073@digi.lonestar.org>
Organization: /usr/people/krishna/.organization


I felt that the Glossary section in the emacs info browser was very useful.  If
you ever come across a term you don't understand (as a beginner), have this
handy to look it up in.  It's a lot less frustrating when you understand the
terms that the rest of the manual is using without having to do a complete
diversion just to get a definition.

Krishna
From: tdt@epx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Partial redraw-display
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:27:21 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: University of Minnesota

Greetings.  I'm trying to write a lisp function which automatically
sets the variable 'tab-width to 4.  This works, but the display does
not update.  When I add the (redraw-display) line of code, the ENTIRE
display gets updated, not just the affected window.
Where is the redraw-window command? (Or how do you fool emacs?)

thanks,
tim

CODE:
(defun tabstop-to-four ()
  "Sets the tab-width variable to 4 in this buffer"
  (interactive)
  (set-variable 'tab-width 4)
; i can't for the life of me find out how to redraw a single window
; instead of the whole ??FKJWEFIOJ?? display!!!  9/9/92 tdt
;  (redraw-display)
)
From: kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: 132 characters wide
Date: 13 Sep 92 06:23:17 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1992Sep12.132431.12327@topaz.ucq.edu.au> faggk@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>I would appreciate assistance on how I might setup emacs for a 132 character
>line width. 

How you do it depends upon the kind of terminal/workstation you are using.


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From: gusset@ntb.ch (Thomas Gusset)
Subject: PostScript Doku for emacs
Reply-To: gusset@ntb.ch
Organization: Neu-Technikum Buchs, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:51:41 GMT

Is there a PostScript Version of the Emacs Dokumentations and if yes, where can I find it ?

Thomas 


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Subject: Spell checker
From: Paul.OConnor@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Pubie)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:54:01 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.


I use the ispell in emacs for all my spelling checks. What I don't like about
it is that very often I have managed to spell the word in question
so wrong that emacs comes up with no replacement words. 

Is there a better spelling checker for emacs or can the present ispell be
adapted such that if it find no replacements then it widens its search for
applicable words?

Also while on the subject, how do you end a ispell session in flight.
nothing seems to work

Cheers

Paul O'Connor                          Phone: +64 4 472-1000
Institute of Statistics and              FAX: +64 4 495-5118
Operations Research,                   Email: oconnor@isor.vuw.ac.nz
Victoria University of Wellington      Snail: PO Box 600,Wellington,New Zealand



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From: khera@cs.duke.edu (Vivek Khera)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: ispell.el on iris
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:38:59 GMT
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: jason@news.larc.nasa.gov's message of 10 Sep 92 17:19:25 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 30e1c068f3cf363204a56ce44cd4b981

In article <BuDHGE.Ity@news.larc.nasa.gov> jason@news.larc.nasa.gov (Jason Austin) writes:

	   Ispell.el does not seem to work right on an Iris running
   Irix4.0.4.  In works fine on the same emacs compiled for a Sun Sparc.
   It looks like it's trying to check an entire line at a time instead of
   just a single word.  Anyone have any idea why this is happening?

the SGI is a SYSV box, so you need to change the default
ispell-filter-hook-args.  from the ispell.el file:

; For TeX users, try "detex -iw" or "detex -iw | tr -cs A-Za-z \012".  Note
; that the output of the filter must be one word per line.

(defvar ispell-filter-hook "tr"
  "Filter to pass a region through before sending it to ispell.
Must produce output one word per line.  Typically this is set to tr,
deroff, detex, etc.")
(make-variable-buffer-local 'ispell-filter-hook)

(defvar ispell-filter-hook-args '("-cs" "A-Za-z" "\012")
  "Argument LIST to pass to ispell-filter-hook")
(make-variable-buffer-local 'ispell-filter-hook-args)


note that the default options to tr work for BSD style tr, and this
needs to be changed for sysv style tr.  i don't know the proper
incantation myself, but it should be evident from the man pages.
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From: partain@dcs.gla.ac.UK (partain)
Subject: handling .mailrc aliases w/ quotes?
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:52:31 GMT

Does someone have some bits to handle .mailrc aliases of the form

    alias myself "Will Partain <partain>"

(as well as the usual "alias myself partain"...)?  My experience, and
casual perusal of mailalias.el (18.57), is that it blindly chops at
whitespace.  Thanks.

Will
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From:  (Dave Wodelet)
Subject: Re: 132 characters wide
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.help
Organization: Planning & Data Services
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:26:20 GMT

Although there is now clean way to do this (i.e. solutions tend to be
highly terminal specific) I have a solution for DEC VTxxx terminals if
that's what your interested in....

In article <1992Sep12.132431.12327@topaz.ucq.edu.au>,
faggk@topaz.ucq.edu.au wrote:
> 
> I would appreciate assistance on how I might setup emacs for a 132 character
> line width. 
> 
> --
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From: les@IDA.LiU.SE (Lennart Staflin)
Subject: Re: Can I expand an abbrev without the space getting added on the end ?
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden
	<WMESARD.92Sep4121833@tofu.oracle.com>
	<JBW.92Sep5124720@bigbird.bu.edu>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:12:05 GMT

You can also bind the space-key to something that expands an eventual
abbreviation but doesn't insert a space.

In tex-mode i use the following function:

(defun TeX-insert-space (arg)
  (interactive "p")
  (expand-abbrev)
  (if (and (= arg 1)
	   skip-space)
      nil
    (if (and last-abbrev last-abbrev-location
	     (< last-abbrev-location (point))
	     (< (- (point) last-abbrev-location) 200))
	(let ((here (point)))
	  (goto-char last-abbrev-location)
	  (if (search-forward "\C-b" here 'noerr)
	      (delete-char -1)
	    (self-insert-command arg)))
      (self-insert-command arg)))
  (setq skip-space nil))

[Ignore the skip-space variable, its an old left-over.]

With this function bound to space, the abbreviations expansion can
contain a C-b, if it does the point will be moved to the C-b and no
space will be inserted.  If the expansion does not contain a C-b a
normal space will be inserted.

Some typical abbreviations:

"csref"	       14   "\\ref{}"
"setof"	       3    "\\setof{}{}"

-- Lennart Staflin
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From: slangley@constant.demon.co.uk (Simon Langley)
Subject: Using <ALT> as meta key
Organization: Home
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 08:52:49 GMT

On my SVR4 486 I am using emacs 18.56.  I am largely very happy with it but
a couple of things irritate me.  It is set up to use <ESC> as the meta key
which I find unnatural; is it possible to change this to the <ALT> key?  

I am also having problems with the arrow keys at my console.  I use a PC with
a VT100 emulator (under DOS) as well as the console and the arrow keys work
perfectly on this without any intervention from me.  However they do not work
with the console (the arrow keys send ^[[OA, ^[[OB &c.) and I have been unable
to bind the movement functions to these sequences (using global-set-key).

Can anyone help?

PS ISTR that about six months ago there was some discussion about how to show
   the current line # in the status line; did anyone ever get this to work
   safely?


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From: rudis+@cs.cmu.edu (Rujith S DeSilva)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: TAB characters (was Re: Need help with TABith TABS)
Keywords: emacs, TABS, PASCAL
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:32:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BuCHyu.GzG.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Sep10.002725.562@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan)
writes:
>I am just learning emacs now but as soon as my proficiency picks
>up a bit here is what I am going to do:
>o set tab-width to whatever I prefer.
>o hook into reading in a file a function which automatically
>  tabifies the file.  This means assuming that the file was
>  written with a tabstop of eight.
>o hook into writing out a file (write-file-hooks) a function 
>  which, depending on the type of file, either:
>  o untabifies the file completely or
>  o untabifies the file, resets the tab-width to eight, and
>    then tabifies the file again.
>
>And then I'll never have to worry about tab-widths again!

Does this mean that you want saved files to have TAB characters, but want
spaces while editing?  If so, why bother to have TABs at all?  The TAB
character is a historical accident that (IMHO) should be wiped out.  It was
originally intended to save file-space by a simple compression mechanism for
multiple spaces, but:

(a) Given current disk sizes, who cares?
(b) There are much more effective compression methods available now.

Rujith de Silva.
Carnegie Mellon.
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From: scullyl@prism.cs.orst.edu (Lyle Scully)
Subject: Re: Dired & Ange-Ftp
Reply-To: scullyl@prism.cs.orst.edu
Organization: Oregon State University
Distribution: gnu.emacs.help
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:28:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.091913.23760@cs.ruu.nl> piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) writes:


>   When I translate this to English :=), I think you mean the DWIM feature.
>
>   (defvar dired-dwim-target nil
>     "*If non-nil, dired tries to guess a default target directory:
>   If there is a dired buffer displayed in the next window, use
>   its current subdir, instead of the current subdir of this dired
>   buffer.
>
>   The target is used in the prompt for file copy, move etc.")

Okay this is kind of what I am talking about. What is the next window
and how do you get it to come up? This is what I thought I needed so I
could put files up. Right now I am not even sure how to do that. I
thought that you had your current ftp session and could pop up a
second buffer that had say a directory in your home path. That way you
could put and get files from either directory as you needed. 

Lyle

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From: qili@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (qiang li)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Customize a WP-like Emacs
Keywords: Customization, Word Processor
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:51:49 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

Hi,

I am pretty new to Emacs. Used to PC Keyboard, I would like to know
if there are ways out there so that my personalized Emacs would 
behave like a WP. For instance, <Home> moves cursor to beginning of line,
<F10> saves a file, <F7> saves a file before prompting for exit, and
of course, <F1> invokes help, etc.

Here in Indiana University, we do have a customized version of Emacs which
allows use of arrow keys. I know there is something to do with the .emacs
file, but I would rather use a thoroughly tested package, or a one that 
does most of what I want and need just a few minor modifications. If anyone
out there has such a package, or knows where to get, please, please let
me know.

Your help appreciated.

Kenneth Li
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From: ehgasm2@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Marshall)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: RMAIL questions
Date: 13 Sep 92 11:57:23 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <BuFGwv.K0K.2@cs.cmu.edu> jkr+@CS.CMU.EDU (Ken Rosenblatt) writes:
>There are a couple of default behaviors I would like to add or modify:
>
>(2) I would like to be able to reply to just the sender.

If you are using rmail, then "r" (rmail-reply) will do this for you:

rmail-reply:
Reply to the current message.
Normally include CC: to all other recipients of original message;
prefix argument means ignore them.
While composing the reply, use M-x mail-yank-original to yank the
original message into it.

Enjoy, Simon.
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