HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jvh@cs.vu.nl (Hamel van J)
Subject: Re: Ministry concert in Amsterdam
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:20:06 GMT

mcsdc1gm@dct.ac.uk writes:
: In article <1992Nov8.215123.29378@fwi.uva.nl>, heederik@fwi.uva.nl (Robbert Heederik) writes:
: > 
: > 
: > Hi,
: > 
: > Last friday, Ministry and Helmet played in the Paradiso in Amsterdam, The
: > Netherlands. The place was totally sold out and people were offering 100
: > guilders for the 20 guilder ticket. 
 			:::
			:::
			:::
: > Noticed that "Jesus built my hotrod" wasn't played?? Strange.
: > 
: > Robbert.
: 
:               JESUS BUILT MY HOTROD WASNT PLAYED COS GIBBY
:               FROM THE BUTTHOLE SURFERS WASNT THERE TO DO THE VOCALS.
: 
: 
"Jesus built my hotrod" was on the playlist for the people who did 
sound&light, though. 
(Just after Scarecrow, which was the last song they played)

By the way, isn't Gibby just doing the intro?

Joost.





Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:25:38 GMT
Originator: berntr@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Nov18.233309.24940@rtsg.mot.com>, houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) writes:
> >
> >JAA>don't  see  what all the fuss is about. I just bought a  really great
> >JAA>yamaha keyboard, and if anyone can tell me how to get in touch with WAX
> >JAA>STACKS, I'd really like it, because I want to get signed. I'm going to call
> >
> >     OH GOD.  That's WAX TRACKS.  And throw out your Yamaha and go
> 
> Try again.
> 
> It's Wax Trax.
> 

What about Wax Trax! Records
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Re: KMFDM
Followup-To: alt.newbie,rec.music.industrial,alt.geek,alt.test,misc.test
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:18:45 GMT

In article <Bxxzqv.1uv@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> koppi@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Jeffrey Alan Koppi) writes:
>
>
>What does KMFDM stand for...if it's an acronym.
>
>


This is _not_ funny, Jeff.
Try again.



Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.fisherman.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: rec.music.noise??????
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:46:48 GMT
Keywords: fuck that shit

In article <1992Nov20.044435.29834@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
>
> I propose rec.music.silence. Either we can post endlessly about Crumb's
>4'33" or just not post there at all. RMI would be fine if the trying to

Umm...Crumb's "4:33"...uh, don't you mean John Cage's "Songs, Drones and
Refrains of Death"? :)

>
>St. Anthony
>
>t
>--
>          / N \   O         Laszt uns're Seelen vom Schimmel befreien!
>         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
>         |   | |_O-C-C-OH     Im Aas sielen! (correct my German!)
>          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)


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From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: Re: THAT NIN FELLA IS ALIVE/I HAVE PROOF
Keywords: TRENT RENZOR IS ALIVE/ I HAVE PROOF
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:16:43 GMT

Thanks Willy,

We would never had guessed.


(Oh, god.......a saint?!?!?!?!?!).Now thats sad.



R. Martin
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From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Subject: Re: NIN hidden tracks- names?
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:59:33 GMT

In article <By0Eop.GHs@cck.coventry.ac.uk> mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru) writes:
>a friend of mine has the CD of "Broken" and knows about the extra tracks
>hidden at the end.
>
>Thing is, he doesn't know what they're called- can anyone help?

Here we go again!

The tracks are "Suck" and "Physical (You're So)"

Gee and while we're at it in case everyone forgot or another bunch of people
just joined the net NO KMFDM doesn't stand for Kill Mother Fucking Depeche
Mode YES Ain't It Dead Yet is only supposed to be one track YES With
Sympathy is really Ministry YES Trent Reznor is a dick YES there are two
unlisted tracks on the end of Tyranny For You NO Trent Reznor, Al
Jourgensen, Ogre and everyone else are not dead any other reoccuring
questions I did not answer can be found in the FAQ more than likely.

							-Lee
From: u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: delerium
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:25:30 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <721795892.1@ninejacknine.FidoNet.Org>, Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Mark Wagner) writes:
> Does anybody know if any delerium cds besides "euphoric" have been
> released in the US?  I am not rich, and the imports i have seen cost
> $20 each.
> 
> Also, are there any other groups that make songs similar to "grave
> mentor" and "sorrow" on "euphoric"?  I find those songs amazing.

I am not familiar with the exact songs you are refering to but...you may want
to give a listen to "In Slaughter Natives", especially thier latest album
(sorry i've forgotten the name.)  ISN has a gothic-industrial feel - sort of a
cross between delerium and Laibach. (i assume youve heard of Laibach...).
"Borgesia" (sp?) may also be worth a listen. (I object to their politics and
consequently will not buy thier albums, but i respect that other people may
feel differently about this...)

For more 'ambient' industro/gothic/gloom you should try "Lustmord".

then, of course, there is Skinny Puppy, which has little to do with what you
were asking for, but after all...they _are_ the Greatest Band In The World 
("GBITW")



check ya


drew.

> 
> 
> mark wagner
> 
> wagner@macc.wisc.edu
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From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Re: Negativland makes eggs....
X-Xxdate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:41:57 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:41:26 GMT

In article <3127@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> Cerebus the Aardvark, front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
writes:
>Hey gang....
>
>You know that "Perfect Scrambled Eggs" song that Negativland does on their cur-
>rent tour?  Well, I know for a fact that it IS somewhere on record(or CD even),
>since I heard it this summer on a college station.  The DJ at the time said it
>was on a Ralph Records comp.  Well, I have 3 questions about it:
>

A question for you: is this the 'song' which explains how to make 'perfect
scrambled eggs' - something like '4 eggs, 1/4 cup milk' and so on?  Is it the
same?  (Gawd, what a odd subject in the r.m.i...)

I remember playing it while DJing in Chico, Ca. and have been wondering
recently who did it.  I forgot who it was - I wasn't into Negativland (or much
industrial) then.
--
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From: u0a38@seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk (LJ Barton)
Subject: NIN and interminable whinings on R.M.I.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:04:11 WET
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HIGH THERE...
	     For once I feel motivated to writing to this group rather
than just reading it.

   For weeks now people have been writing in to slag off anyone who
dares to admit to liking NIN...Reznor's a spoilt rich kid...He doesn't 
have anything to say, he's just whining etc., etc., yawn, etc.

   Who gives a fuck who Reznor is, where he comes from, whether he is
incredibly subtle and profound, or whether he IS just whining ??? 

   People listen to music because it resonates with something in THEM.
If a piece, or style, of music doesn't resonate they don't like it...so
they don't listen to it...If it DOES they DO. 

   That's IT !

   It doesn't matter why someone does or doesn't like NIN...they just
DO or they DON'T. It doesn't matter how good the music is, how crap the
lyrics, they still like it and flaming them for their taste isn't going
to change it one iota. SOME people like Bon Jovi, for God's sake !!! Or
even Cabaret Voltaire (Yeuch) or Dead Can Dance (Yawn). Does my slagging
those groups off make YOU stop liking them ?

   So get off everyone's backs !!! It's pointless...It doesn't change
anyone's musical taste and all it does is result in general bitchiness
(I won't credit this sort of posting with the term 'nasty', because I
LIKE nasty...bitchy just has no redeeming qualities...the Bananarama of
nasty), and endless zero-semantic-content postings to wade through in
the hope of finding something new.

   So let's just get on with something else and leave those people who
like NIN to talk about it if they want to.


			Cheers,
				Lol

--

Freedom is wearing your coat in the rain, even if your mother says you should.
From: mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (IM Overlord)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Interview with Front Line Assembly
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:04:50 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana



	Yeah, looks like those ^M things are still there. If you have to have
a copy without them, mail me, and I'll send you one. Sorry.


mike
mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
mtressle@lovelace.bsu.edu
00MBTRESSLER@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu

_I_ want a piece of MEAT!
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Crumb's 4'33"
Summary: "Get away from me, you're a loser." - Tom Vu
Keywords:  Crumb's 4'33"
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:36:47 GMT

sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>> I propose rec.music.silence. Either we can post endlessly about Crumb's
>>4'33" or just not post there at all. 

>Crumb's 4'33" ?

>Is this some sort of variant on Cage's piece by the same title,
>or just an error?

Actually, it's a little known fact that R.Crumb, the famous underground
comix artist of the 60's, had a brilliant career as a young composer. It
was really Crumb who came up with the idea of 4'33" shortly after his 
Zen" comic book that contained only blank pages. Crumb never recorded
or performed his version, and he claims that Cage ripped off the idea. 
Legend has it that Cage and Crumb used to hang out together eating 
mushrooms and drinking. Supposedly one night Crumb got shitfaced and 
showed Cage his score for 4'33", and a week later Cage presented it as 
his own piece. Crumb was crushed, and he quit composing music and focused 
entirely on his art, except for occasional weekend jams with friends and 
a one-shot lp he recorded years later.  

  - malcolm@wrs.com
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: The election
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:46:01 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Sharp) writes:
>It is unrealistic to expect the Federal government to allow anyone
>who says they are a "musician" to have a work visa; a very coveted
>item which it took my ex-SO three years to get (as a "non-musician").
 
>I don't think (and feel free to prove me wrong) that Immigration
>and Naturalization makes aesthetic judgements pertaining to the
>ideology of a band wanting to play in the U.S.

It's indeed unrealistic on the face of it; however, in this case, I
believe that the "work visa" in question is only for a limited 
duration - as opposed to what your ex-SO was after.

Actually, it did seem rather clear (particularly during the Reagan
presidency) - even to me - that the filters used to exclude performers
had some strong ideological components to them. This extended from
the Mekons' early attempts at touring to a number of "Nueva Cancion"
groups from South American, and even included public health nurses
and "people's clinics" folks trying to get visas for medical conferences
in Los Angeles that my friend Lois the public health nurse attended,
along with (this has traditionally been a problem) a bunch of Irish
folks. It's not necessarily all "dangerous" (choke. chuckle.) music
like Industrial stuff that does it. The ascendant Right in the early
1980s used *precisely* that sort of immigration nonsense when it suited
their purposes. Heck, they'd use *anything*. I think that at this point,
there's perhaps more of a problem in determining what counts as a group
in said foreign country which might "pass judgement." Now that I'm
thinking about it, I think that there were some cases in the late 1970s
when some of the great improvisers of Persian music (that Dastgah stuff)
were not allowed to leave Iran in the years following the revolution 
because the "local" group which judged artistic integrity was composed
of Mullahs instead of performers, whose views ah...disagreed rather
violently with the "experts" on the other side of the Iranian border.
That's a slightly different case, I guess.
--
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world/begun before I was born. In the far corner/the dead woman bows off stage
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train, is announced/I lived in one place. I want to die in another 608-828-3385
From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Clubs in Seattle
Keywords: club seattle industrial
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 18:11:35 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

dsimon@informix.com (Don Simon) writes:
> I'm going to be in Seattle for an entire week, starting Saturday morning.
> Does anyone have some recommendations as to good clubs to go to for
> industrial music?  Or any other suggestions for places to go while I'm
> there...

I remember a club called the ColourBox. Don't remember exactly the address,
but it's in the downtown area where the underground tours are.

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From: edklein@well.sf.ca.us (Ed Klein)
Subject: Pigface in Bay Area
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:22:16 GMT


The Bay Area Pigface dates are:

Wednesday, Dec. 2 - The Bridge, San Francisco
Sunday, Dec. 6 - The Oasis, San Jose

No word on opening bands or anything like that yet.  It's possible that I
will be the DJ at the San Jose show.  It's very probable (I heard this from
Martin himself) that one of the people on stage out here will be Genesis
P'Orridge.  Matt Schultz of Lab Report will be doing some solo ambient/noise
stuff as well.  Throw in the rest of the Pigface regulars doing the
industrial sludge-rock thing, and you have the potential for a very diverse
kind of show.

--------
Ed Klein
edklein@well.sf.ca.us
From: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (Corinne A. Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Test..
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:56:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (Corinne A. Kelly)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung) says:

>Test..  sorry for the inconvienience. (11/20 14:30 MST)
>
>jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca      |  "It's better than bad,it's good!"
>                           |             - Log(tm) by Blammo!
>
fuck you.

-- 
cori a kelly
"You all think i'm mad.  I'm just a sane man fighting for his soul."
				 Renfield(as played by Tom Waits in Dracula)
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata)
Subject: Re: Apocalypse Culture
Organization: ::AOAIOXXYSZ::
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:31:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.200139.29483@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Misquamicus) writes:
>In article <Bxt1qn.9Bu@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> rrkeuche@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Rainer Keuchel) writes:
>>I recently bought "The worst of Monte Cazazza" where is mentioned
>>the book Apocalypse Culture 2 on the sleeve.Can anyone tell me
>>who else appears in this book,if it's woth buying it and where
>>I can get it?  What about Apocalypse Culture 1?

	It's printed by Feral House Press, and is edited by Adam
Parfrey. I don't have the other publication data at the moment, as my
copy is about 500 miles away. Sorry. And it's not really a sequel.
It's a heavily edited, expanded, and revised edition of the original
Apocalypse Culture.

>The only other "industrial" writer in this book was Paul Lemmos, who
>interviewed Peter Sotos, publisher of a rather nasty pornographic
>magazine called "Pure".

	What about Hermann Nitsch (sp?). He released a CD earlier this
year that was a soundtrack for one of his "aktions". Actually, I'd say
that everything in the book is at least tangentially related to
industrial culture.

>The article by Cazazza was among the more boring in this book(IMHO)
>which features articles on self-mutilation, conspiracy theories galore,
>necrophillia, performance art, magick & lycanthropy among other things...

	Yeah, Monte's a total grandstanding wanker. He's never done
anything that I find to be especially shocking or disturbing. In fact,
I get the distinct feeling that he's some sort of cheesy hanger on
that would never have gotten any notoriety at all if it hadn't been
for his connection to Throbbing Gristle.
	Especially good articles are the ones on the case for
self-castration, Charles De Grimston's cult (I can remember his name,
but can I remember the incredibly simple name of the cult? NOOOO), and
Annubis's fractured journal entries. And the one on performance art is
pretty damn good. If you were ever wondering about Nurse With Wound's
oblique reference to "Rudolf Schwarzkogler, who killed himself in the
name of art by successive acts of self-mutilation", here's your
answer.

>I recommend it myself...

	Me too, and highly. It's worth getting simply for Joe
Coleman's deranged cover painting, which is the end of the universe
writ large on canvas.

>-Misquamicus

ozymandias G desiderata
(ogd@selway.umt.edu)


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From: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: MINISTRY AT LOLLA
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:21:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114 2200+ conferences
Reply-To: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 

-> >They didn't play it here this summer, either. It probably wouldn't
-> be >the same without Gibby. :-)
->
-> Just a note...
-> Gibby Hanes showed up at the Lollapalooza at Molson park(near
-> Toronto), and they did in fact do J.B.M.H..

Hello??
        I was at Lollapalooza this summer and
                1) Gibby Haynes was NOT there...
                2) Ministry did NOT play Jesus Built My Hotrod.

        You must have been on a bad acid trip...

        john @ slumber cottage...
From: u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: doubting thomas
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:50:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <Qf0NC9K00WBOA7i_8u@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Brendan P. McFeely" <bm2e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> On 11-Nov-92 in doubting thomas + FTP stuff  
> user u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unime writes:
>>What does the name "Doubting Thomas" mean?  it has a familiar ring to it...
> 
> Thomas was, I think, the apostle who doubted that Jesus had risen from
> the grave on Easter.  Hence, "Doubting Thomas," which is an appellation
> applied to people who have a tendency to disbelieve what they are told
> by others. 

Ah, common! yer pullin my leg!



drew.
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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: cassandra complex (Was: re: ...whinings...)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:05:35 GMT

In article <168A589A8.MSZABO@kentvm.kent.edu> MSZABO@kentvm.kent.edu writes:
>OK, Rune.   You want something _I_ think is better than NIN?
>Have you (or anyone else) ever heard of a Belgian band called
>Cassandra Complex?
>They have been around for a long time now, and must have about 10 records.
>Many of the latest releases have been distributed by Play it Again Sam (USA)
>but since they went down, I don't know if any other label has picked them up.
> 
>The singer, Rodney Orpheus, has a voice you can't soon forget.  Check it out.
><<POINT>>


One of the guys in the Utah Saints was in the Cassandra Complex.  CC
is better IMHO.

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From: Shane.Vander@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Shane Vander)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Nin
Date: 15 Nov 92 05:00:00 GMT

JAA>I'm just getting into "industiral" style music, and I think Trent's just
JAA>about the coolest! I just got Broken. Does anyone out there have any of his

     Trent should have changed his band's name when he released Broken.
It sounds NOTHING like Pretty Hate Machine, which is true NIN
industrial.  Broken sounds like Ministry's last 2 albums.

JAA>other records? I just got Ministry's album, With Sympathy, and I really

     (Should I really even *try* and explain this to you?)  With
Sympathy is one of M's earliest albums (if not the 1st).  It even
pre-dates M's techno-pop phase.  It's one of the WORST albums I've ever
heard (or owned), and is in NO WAY industrial, nor representative of
what people in this decade mean when they refer to the Ministry sound.

JAA>don't  see  what all the fuss is about. I just bought a  really great
JAA>yamaha keyboard, and if anyone can tell me how to get in touch with WAX
JAA>STACKS, I'd really like it, because I want to get signed. I'm going to call

     OH GOD.  That's WAX TRACKS.  And throw out your Yamaha and go
Roland all the way.

JAA>my band  "Factory Decoder X". Any input would be greaylt appreciated.

     Corny.  Try and say something, don't veil yourself in a cool drape.

JAA>    - tom "tommy hell" cooper

     I'm not a music industry mogul, but as an avid consumer, I think I
can speak for the rest that we want some SUBSTANCE, not COOL SHIT.  Your
text above just comes off so loaded, man; well-hung and snow-white tan
that i'd avoid listening to it if someone handed me a free tape to
promote it.  Try and get anyone to take you seriously; $11.95 seriously
with a name and cause and awareness like yours!

     Stacks...  Yeeeez!  With Sympathy...... Vomit!    $factory$.X  DAX!

     Shane

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