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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: FREE 1-YEAR NRA MEMBERSHIPS (Not Here!)
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:55:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

zane@infopls.chi.il.us (Sameer Parekh) writes:
: 
:         The NRA sure as hell SHOULDN'T work for making "cop killer" 
: bullets illegal. That's what I don't like the NRA.  They don't take a 
: full stand for gun rights.  (Some people say its better than doing 
: nothing, granted, but still. . .)

Isn't anyone going to answer my question from an earlier response on
this thread?  I asked for documentation that the NRA promoted the
making and sale of Teflon "cop killer" bullets.  Is the silence to
be interpreted as meaning that no such promotion existed? 

As far as the bullets themselves go. They would not be any more effective
than a normal bullet at penetrating body armor. They were designed for
penetrating windshields of automobiles from an angle.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: orange@alfred.carleton.ca (Paul Vallee)
Subject: Post-trip free association problems -- is this normal?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:22:06 GMT

After a very mild, enjoyable half-hit trip, (drop + 9 hours), my
friend and I, wracked with insomnia, tried to play a game.

The object was to find words beginning with the first two letter of
numbers in sequence.

ex. one - only
    two - twilight
    three - thrush

etc.

This was astonishingly difficult.  I had never noticed any post-trip
mental problems whatever, but my skills at picking words out of the
blue based only on their first two letters were horrible.  I actually
said, while sober, 'there aren't any th words in english!'.  This was
before I got the, then, this, that (see how easy this is now?)

Any comments?  Is this normal?


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From: jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: AA (Was Re: Definition of an addict.)
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:05:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

A minor quibble about an otherwise very good post:

In <1992Aug11.170311.4118@mits.mdata.fi> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes

>   I have not heard of people being forced into AA.

Unfortunately, many people are being sentenced to go to AA or go to
jail, which, given the unpleasantness of jail, isn't much of a choice
to be offerred. I do not know if this occurs in Australia, but it
definitely occurs in Canada and some jurisdictions in the US. In my
opinion, they should just be sentenced to jail, and can attend AA 
there if they wish.

-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   61+3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: FREE 1-YEAR NRA MEMBERSHIPS (Not Here!
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Aug14.060415.7626@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:53:00 GMT

<In article <1992Aug14.060415.7626@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> andre@vifp.monash.edu.au (Andre Ambrose) writes:

<   If you believe guns dont kill youre a idiot.

	Huh? I thought that inanimate objects have no will of
	their own. 

	It's always struck me as odd that people who want 
	one kind of inanimate object legalized are often
	quite keen to criminalize a different object.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:56:24 GMT
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

rand@smartstar.com (Rand McKinney) writes:
: I'm going to Amsterdam in a few weeks, and I was wondering:
: 
: 1) What is the attitude there now towards drugs?  Is it still as mellow
:    as it used to be? 

It's quite mellow.  You can wander into places like the Grasshopper
(recommended), go downstairs and buy some hash, pot, etc.  Then you
can take it upstairs to the cafe, roll a joint, hang out and smoke
it in knowledge that you're someplace where people have some common
sense when it comes to letting others do what they like.

: 3) I've heard of a place called the Milk Weg (Milky Way) Club.  
:    Is it still around and what's it like now?

The Melkveg is still around; it's basically just a big old place
with a theater, club, bar, and so on.  Nothing all that special
really, but worth a trip to see if anything of interest to you is
going on.


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From: ibarrett@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (I G Barrett)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.psychoactives,sci.med,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: WANTED: INFO/DATA ON STIMULANTS
Summary: Looking for a definite comparison of stimulants currently available
Keywords: stimulants amphetamine data
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:30:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: casper.BtADMz.HKt
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town



Is there anyone who could give me a comparison of the relative potencies
of legal (prescription or not) stimulants (those sold as stimulants as well as
those sold as appetite suppressants)?  Concrete data would be great, but
otherwise qualitative approximations (e.g. diethylpropion is half as
potent/strong as dextroamphetamine etc.) would suffice.  Any references where I
could find this sort of comparison information (perhaps for other classes of
pharmaceutical as well)?  I haven't seen anything like this in Merck.

Thanks
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						A Season in Hell

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	Alcohol is a Drug	Caffeine is a Drug 	Nicotine is a Drug

				Are you Anti-Drugs?
From: djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Subject: Re: Dosing and vodka
Originator: djs6015@ultb
Organization: R.I.T.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:37:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.144237.8863@pellns.alleg.edu> iain@ttel.ling writes:
>Is it dangerous to mix LSD with alcohol? I ask this because when mixing  
>someone's drink, I decided to dose her (she was talking about the mother  
>trip she was goning to take after the party and I wanted to help her  
>along). However I didn't know if it's safe to mix LSD and vodka. In case  
>the chance shows itself again, is it? Please post because the address is  
>an alias.

I'm not sure about mixing LSD with Vodka.... but I have drank quite
a lot of beer while tripping. I usually wait a couple of hours, after
you peak. Its a cool feeling getting really smashed after tripping
because you don't feel drowsy at all. It does take almost everything 
away from the acid though... just imagine getting really drunk, but you
aren't tired in the least bit.        

"like taking an upper and then taking a downer... going sideways"

-- 
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From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:01:52 GMT
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
In-reply-to: jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au's message of Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:52:26 GMT

In article <jamesp.714099146@bison> jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis) writes:

   I'm currently about one third of the way through a Burroughs biography called
   "Literary Outlaw" (it's over 600 pages long!) and have just gotten to the
   bit where he shoots his wife.  It's an entertaining book and I recommend it
   to anyone who wants to know more about the man.  I'll hopefully have finished
   it by the time the movie starts here on Sept. 11 (we really are in the
   antipodes over here...).

The other books worth reading, if you want to read the works that are
most represented in the movie _Naked Lunch_, are Burroughs' own:

_Junkie_
_Queer_
_Naked Lunch_
_Exterminator_

(I believe that that's roughly the chronological order they were
written in.)

Selected passages from each of these appear in _Naked Lunch_, either
in the form of stories (e.g. the story of Bobo's ``sticky fate'' comes
from _Queer_ (and also appears in modified version in _Naked Lunch_);
the ``talking asshole'' is from _Naked Lunch_ (told by Dr. Benway in
the novel)) or acted out (e.g. the discussion of pyrethrum vs.
fluoride, from _Exterminator_; Mugwumps appear in _Naked Lunch_, but
there is a proto-type of them in _Junkie_).  There are lots of
in-jokes in the film, such as breaking off dialogue at page breaks in
the novel, calling the typewriter make Clark-Nova (``mythic
resonance'', indeed, for a reader of Burroughs), etc.  After the film
came out, I went back to the Burroughs novels, and discovered that
much that I thought was merely Burroughs-like in the film was, in
fact, a direct quote from Burroughs.

Incidentally, the organization William Lee is pitted against is
Interzone, Incorporated in the film; in the first version of the
script, it was Islam, Inc., just as in the novel _Naked Lunch_.
Presumably Cronenberg changed it because the movie was being filmed
during the Iraq weeinie-roast, and the original name could have led to
all sorts of unintended conclusions.

-30-
Bob

``I studied neurology under Professor Fingerbottom in Vienna...and he
knew every nerve in your body.  Magnificent old thing...Came to a
sticky end....His falling piles blew out the Duc de Ventre's
Hispano-Suiza and wrapped around the rear wheel.  He was completely
gutted, leaving an empty shell sitting there on the giraffe-skin
upholstery....  Even the eyes and the brain went with a horrible
shlupping sound.  The Duc de Ventre says he will carry that ghastly
shlup to his mausoleum.''
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bagg@quads.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch (Joan Vollmer)
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:45:38 GMT

In article <Bt74qI.DA@well.sf.ca.us> wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene) writes:

>Um, as usual when the subject of WSB comes up a lot of
>misinformation gets passed around...
> [Specific corrections deleted.]

>It looks like the movie of "Naked Lunch" is rewriting history
>just as I expected it would. 

Of course, this is fair game since WSB constantly fictionalizes
himself, or rather constantly has characters who superficially
resemble him and his consciously-constructed "bad ass" persona.
The movie is consistent with WSB's writing practices, as his
approval of the script might suggest.

>                                     All the followups give the
>impression either explicity or implicitly that Burroughs was
>responsible for the shooting episode.  Although they both liked
>to perform this William Tell routine, in the fatal episode his
>wife, Joan Vollmer, goaded him into it. 

Is this corrrect?  I recently read that they had never performed
the "routine" before the fatal event.  Admittedly, this claim
was in a popular media article and is therefore suspect.  

  --Matt
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: AA (Was Re: Definition of an addict.)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:38:39 GMT

In <c57m!lf.enigma@netcom.com> enigma@netcom.com (Enigma) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.184354.1122@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>>AA is certainly an immediate way to deal with the immediate problems of
>>alcoholism.  Most of my negative comments about AA as a program focus
>>on its use as a *long term* solution, where the addict never goes on
>>to try deeper levels of cure that make use of their own will power.
>Are you familiar with the 12-steps?  I ask, because it's very common
>for people not in the program (and even quite a few who are!) to
>focus exclusively on the first three steps and ignore steps 4 through
>12.  These steps are a long term solution, which many people have
>found to provide the deeper level of cure that you refer to. 

Someone listed them early on in this discussion/argument.  I read them
at the time, though I didn't memorize them :-).  I didn't see anything
in them that indicated a more effacious long term solution than "avoid
the substance and pray for guidance", though I will confess to enough
bias that you could prove me wrong.  If you think so, go ahead and repost
the steps.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
  That's why I like this machine:  it's stupid, it doesn't believe, it doesn't
   make me believe, it just does what I tell it.  Stupid me, stupid machine.
                            An honest relationship.
From: tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Yohimbe
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:42:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


Scott writes:
===========================================================================
Question: Yohimbine (from the yohimbe bark) is supposedly a potent MAO
inhibitor. It is commonly available through health food stores as a natural
stimulant/diet pill. Would this make a good mix with oral DMT or is it the
beta-carbolines (i.e. Harmaline & related stuff) that are necessary to 
activate DMT orally?
 Thanx in Adv.
================================================================================

	The yohimbe in health food stores is reported to be
	unbelievably impotent for psychedelic purposes (as 
	for its indication: male impotence I'm unsure.)  If
	you could find the bark you'd be much better off.

	"Ayahuasca" is a name applied to as many drugs as there
	are tribes in meso and south America.  The common ingredient
	is supposed to be the beta-carbolines (harmala alkaloids.)
	However, "ayahuasca" is noted as a hodge-podgery of
	things including Datura saveaolens, leaves containing DMT,
	and other possibly inert ingredients like certain frogs
	(no bufotenine), blood (did you see Altered States :-) ?)
	etc.  What I'm getting at is that an ayahuasca recipe 
	printed is an ayahuasca recipe fabricated which may or may
	not resemble closely a drink consumed by a certain Meso
	or SOuth American people.

	Perhaps Jeremy or Bob could give you more information
	on what particular combinations would yield the best
	possible result.  

	BTW, harmala alkaloids are neurotoxic.  I don't know
	if yohimbine is... perhaps it might be better than
	the harmala alks.     


Trevor Cederquist
From: mhergert@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Mark Ivan Hergert)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Manufacture of LSD
Keywords: WEEKLY ANSWER TO alt.drug's FAVORITE QUESTION!!! REAL FACTS!!!
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:33:54 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston

In article <1992Aug10.201712.15893@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, ppennane@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Petrus Pennanen) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug10.183216.29707@ms.uky.edu> sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes:
>>Just post the answer in chemistry nomenclature. If people can't make
>>it, where's the harm in providing a complete answer?
>
>Here's the beginning of the total synthesis of LSD from Psychedelic
>Chemistry by M.V. Smith. I found this lying in my dir, I haven't checked
>it for typos (in addition to typos already in Psychedelic Chem), and I'm
>not going to type the whole thing in. Have fun. 
>
	Great!. Thanks for the information Petrus. I will now store this info
away, just in case i wake up one morning and find myself with a huge source
knowledge about organic chemistry (Most people study it!).  At the very least
my curiosity has been satisfied, as i'm sure are many others.  It's a hell 
of a lot easier to tell someone something is too complicated for them to
understand, than to attempt to explain it. I do it all the time and i shouldn't.

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From: ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Post-trip free association problems -- is this normal?
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:34:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

zippy@cs.mcgill.ca (Fotis XIPOLITAKIS) writes:
>
>	Correct ne if I'm wrong but I've heard of LSD being stored in
>	body fat for long periods of time... When the fat is used the
>	LSD is released  back into the system... This gives some people
>	LSD flash backs... I've heard it also happens with PCP.

	Zippy, you need to get a copy of the FAQ file!


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
Subject: Re: Extraction of opiates from prescription tablets
Reply-To: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:19:35 GMT


In a previous article, gary@nexnix.demon.co.uk (Gary Howland) says:

>Two questions:
>
>1) How do I extract morphine sulphate from "MST Continus" tablets?  What is
>   it that makes these tablets "slow release"?  Is it some sort of chemical
>   binding that can be broken down by another chemical (perhaps some sort of
>   solvent)? (or would just hot water do the trick?)
>
>2) Is there a simple procedure for extracting codeine phosphate from codeine
>   and aspirin tablets?
>
>Thanking you in advance.
>
>Gary (@nexnix.demon.co.uk)
>
 If you're talking about those big orange morphine tablets...be
careful.  I don't know the dose of the one I took but I almost
didn't wake up the next day.  a FOAF took 2 and wound up on the
bathroom floor...he got through it OK but was pretty close to
calling an ambulance.  I think crushed up I'd try taking maybe
1/2.... Just an opinion.
P.

-- 
"We're desperate, Get used to it,
  It's kiss or kill" - X
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: MDMA neurotoxicity
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:33:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.232829.3210@midway.uchicago.edu> bagg@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>I have a professional interest in this, having done research on
>neurotoxicity at U of Chicago, so I'd be very interested if anyone
>sends you private e-mail claiming that fluoxetine helped.  On the
>other hand, fluoxetine has its own subjective effects and I think
>it might be slightly euphoric.

It is not euphoric.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: zippy@cs.mcgill.ca (Fotis XIPOLITAKIS)
Subject: Re: Post-trip free association problems -- is this normal?
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:29:46 GMT

>
>I agree with this, though much of it might be a psychological reaction to
>the intensity and mind-bendingness of the trip. For example, some people I know 
>note a major slow-down and peacefulness sometimes a few weeks after a trip.
>However, it cannot be the drug itself, since it is completely gone from the
>body in roughly 4 days (and no residual effects in the brain are known yet).
>

	Correct ne if I'm wrong but I've heard of LSD being stored in
	body fat for long periods of time... When the fat is used the
	LSD is released  back into the system... This gives some people
	LSD flash backs... I've heard it also happens with PCP.


Zip.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: Manufacture of LSD
Keywords: WEEKLY ANSWER TO alt.drug's FAVORITE QUESTION!!! REAL FACTS!!!
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 04:08:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.123354.11742@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> mhergert@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Mark Ivan Hergert) writes:
>>
>>Here's the beginning of the total synthesis of LSD from Psychedelic
>>Chemistry by M.V. Smith. I found this lying in my dir, I haven't checked

i realized just a few minutes ago that Michael Valentine Smith is a 
character in Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land - i thought it 
worth sharing, if you didn't know.

tim

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: markm@wri.com
Subject: Re: Mail interception
Reply-To: markm@wri.com
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:15:18 GMT

In article <yy4m1lj.bprofane@netcom.com> bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)  
writes:
> In article <frank2.12@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za> frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za  
(FRANK D N) writes:
> I've heard that if you tightly seal dope in an impermeable
> enclosure (polyethylene, say), thoroughly wash and deodorize the
> package, and then pack it with coffee to further mask the smell,
> that you have a good chance of fooling the dogs.  Any truth to
> this?

I've always heard a hollowed-out bar of smelly soap works well.  I've also  
heard (and this may just be an alt.drugs.urban.legend) that the DEA is training  
some of its drug-sniffing dogs to go after the smell of coffee too.

You mileage may vary.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,rec.arts.books
From: ccx009@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley)
Subject: Books on MJ Cultivation?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:03:58 GMT


Can anyone give me some details of good books on MJ cultivation which are
available, preferably from a Book Store in NYC, as I'll be there sometime
during September.

Thanks.
			
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