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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Guys from TNG/DS9
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:56:30 GMT

In article <C1EEH4.FE4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> dormrec@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Halter ) writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.165210.10522@ac.dal.ca> novanet@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>Here is my top ten guys list: (10 worst, 1 best)
>>10) Devenani Ral
>> 9) Aaron from "Masterpiece Society"
>> 8) Worf 
>> 7) Okona from "The Outrageous Okona"
>> 6) Data
>> 5) Capt. Picard
>> 4) Wyatt Miller from "Haven"
>> 3) Ensign Lucky from "Man of the People"
>> 2) Dr. Bashir
>> 1) Cmdr. Riker
>
>	Where's Wesley???

Not on the list... where he belongs!

ICK... Wesley-lovers...grumble

Jay (=

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From: poblete@ie.utoronto.ca (Ferdie Poblete)
Subject: Re: DS9: Kira Fans
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:00:05 GMT

>Gregory O. Harp			Bernie Luger
>Thor Iverson			Neil Buesing
>Ellison Chan			John A. Burns
>Louis Ting			Sarah Simons
>Christian Gadeken		Danny Barnes
>Ken Papai			Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg
>Johnny Piscitello		Jeff Hochberg
>Gayle Gamble			Vicki Holzhauer
>Rick Gualtieri			Teebu Philip
>Cameron Williams		Ferdie Poblete	
>Han-Young Huang			
>Mary Ellen Foster		

>Reason given for liking her are:

>- she is one of the first strong, non-nurturing role (doctor, counsellor) 
>  female regular on the show
>- I like her hair
>- any woman that throws that much attitude is funky by me
>- I like her acting, AND she's a babe
>- the most interesting character on DS9
>- ...the one about Kira not taking any sh*t from anybody, including Sisko
>- she's just fine, as feisty and annoying as I would expect a Bajoran to be
>-- 
>Ellison Chan, Comp. Sys. Analyst 

I agree to the above wholeheartedly !..
I happen to like Bajorans (despite the mandatory latex that all alien 
races must have...) and despite being disappointed that they dropped
ensign Ro from the roster, I must admit that Nan Visitor is a more
than adequate replacement... (Hubba-hubba!)

Ferdie


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From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
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Subject: Re: Who plays Tarshara Yar?
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:24:28 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I don't know the actress's name, but the character is Ishara Yar. 
						      ^^^^^^

				Just my $0.02,	
				ALF
From: Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield)
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Subject: RE: DSN Deep Sixed?
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:51:37 GMT
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  I'm sure that Paramount is making more money selling it to station
then they will ever make otherwise. DS9 will be here for a while.

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From: villard@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca (EXCUSE ME????)
Subject: Re: Kira and her scale on the babe-o-meter
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:54:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.124432.10382@Virginia.EDU>, qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes...
> 
>	For what it's worth, I think Kira is a lot more
>attractive than Dax.  For starters, I dislike the way Dax's
>hair is pulled straight back.  It makes her head look huge!
>Although Dax *is* nice to look at, she simply looks to much
>like a model for my tastes.  Incidentally, I liked Kira's first
>hair style, as opposed to this really short one.  On a scale
>from 1 to 10, I would rate them:
> 
>Kira:	10
>Ro:	9.8
>Crusher 9.5
>Troi:	9.4
>Dax:	8.5
>					-Quinn

GET A LIFE MAN

Chuckie
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:35:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.rawdon.727986916
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Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <74181@cup.portal.com> BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn) writes:
>    Geez, don't you folks have a sense of humor?

Sure I do.  I just didn't have much cause to exercise it when watching "Qpid".

>						   QPid was clearly
>    meant for laughs. Not to thrill, not for drama, not to preach
>    (any episode that doesn't preach should earn bonus points)
>    just to make us laugh. And it did that very well.

I disagree.  The ONLY thing in the episode I laughed at was "I am not a merry
man".  Otherwise, I thought the thing was a complete waste of time.

>    *Picard trying to hide his relationship with Vash
>    *Vash and Beverly going off to exchange Picard notes

Both of these were trite sitcom-level stuff.  Not funny.

>    *Picard: "Number One, I've just had a visit from Q"
>     Riker: "I'll alert the crew..."

A rather cliche gag.

>    *Q's enticing Picard with the archaelogical dig of a lifetime

Snooze.

>    *Deanna's very bad aim with an arrow

Snooze.

>    *Worf's final solution to Geordi's lire playing

Shades of Animal House!

>    *Picard's difficulties climbing in the window
>    *Picard's arguing with Vash in mid-escape    

Was all of this supposed to be funny?  It seemed to me that it was all just
embarrassing.  99% of the humor misfired, and the episode ended up being
pointless.

>    All in all, the funniest TREK since "The Voyage Home".

I thought "The Voyage Home" was a pretty awful movie, too.  It certainly
wasn't very funny.  Stories which make fun OF the characters, and whose humor
is based in making them look absurd, almost never work.  Neither of these two
did.

Now, "The Royale" was a funny episode.  If they'd gotten rid of the character
of "Texas", it would have been much better, but at least the humor was on
track the rest of the time.

-- 
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"Where they went."
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: Attack of the Creeping Accent
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:27:55 GMT

I knwo this may sound bizarre, but I happen to know lots
of middle-eastern people with british accents.

It's utterly plausable to me.  Maybe in the 24th century
London is *still* the best place to get good indian take-away food?

LJC, an american with a british accent (I'm not giving you my family
tree, so there!)


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From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
Subject: Re: Clones
Organization: University of Miami, School Of Medicine
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:00:22 GMT

In article <C1IwF9.H32@cup.hp.com> runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:
>Daniel Brown (dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu) wrote:
>>> hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg) writes:
>>>>From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
>>>>In the recent DS9 episode "A Man Alone", or something like that,
>>>>Sisko and Odo allow the villian's clone to live.  Why?  What would
>>>>prevent this clone (or, rather, save him) from doing the same thing
>>>>his original did?
>>>...
>>>Who says that criminal tendencies are implanted in one's DNA?
>>...
>>STTNG basically assumed that cloning would reproduce enough recent memories
>>to fool Odo into thinking the clone was the original criminal.  Otherwise,
>>the clone wouldn't have recognize Odo at all.  
>
>I believe the assumption that the person Odo accosted in Bar is the clone
>is not founded.  That could very well have been Ibudaan, afterall, the
>accosted person planted the rumors about being afraid Odo would kill him.
>The clone could have been a trusting idiot enjoying the Holo-suite and
>still have served the same purposes (since Odo was kind enough not to
>break anything while tossing Ibudaan around).
>

If I recall correctly, the man with the hood (criminal masquarading as
someone else) watched the bar scene.


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From: hardinhk@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Harvard Harding)
Subject: Re: DS9: "Babel" - Comments **SPOILERS**
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:16:46 GMT

randall-joshua@yale.edu (Joshua E. Randall) writes:

>Spoilers for DS9 episode "Babel"

>Also, someone was complaining that no one died in this
>episode.  Well, maybe.  But in one scene we say some
>orderlies wheeling a body out on a gurney...is this guy dead
>or what?  Also, the panicky ship captain says that he *and*
>his crew are leaving, yet we only see Odo drag the captain
>off the ship.  I guess the rest of the crew got vaporized?

The rest of the crew was not vaporized, if you recall, the captain said that
his entire crew was sick on the space station.  He said that "he *and* his 
crew were leaving" earlier in the show, but Sisko ordered him not to, and it 
wasn't until his crew was sick with the virus that he actually tried to leave.


>-- 
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From: mcook@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com (Michael Cook)
Subject: Re: TNG Companion
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, Massachusetts
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:03:16 GMT

dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:

>In article <4812@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>>In article <mcook.727407595@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com> mcook@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com (Michael Cook) writes:
>><brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>><
>><>In article <9301141436.AA17400@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  14-Jan-1993 0937) writes:
>><><annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com (Brenda Molina) asks:
>><><
>><><> What is this TNG Companion?
>><...
>><
>><>Like Tim and I, Nemecek started out doing fan produced guides.  But, unlike
>><>Tim and I, he got the book deal :-) :-(
>><
>><Perhaps because Nemecek knows when to say "Tim and I" and when to say "Tim and
>><me"?  :-)
>>
>>You must be a Quayle lover, since the correct term is indeed "Tim and I"  Me
>>is not supposed to be used in that context.

>Vidiot is correct. To test the phrase (or any like it) remove the other person
>so it's only about yourself. Instead of "like Tim and I," it becomes
>"Like I" which is obviously incorrect. In this case "Tim and me" is correct
>("Like me...")

You say Vidiot is correct, and then you go on to explain why he is wrong.
He argued for "Like I".

Michael.
From: sh09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEVEN HIGGINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No Vulcans!
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:40:44 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <kbrill.008o@GACSTL.UUCP>, kbrill@GACSTL.UUCP (Kenneth Brill) writes:
>In an article, abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
>>>Has anyone noticed that there are no Vulcans as regular characters in
>>
>>
>>I dunno about that. Spock was supposedly the first Vulcan to join
>>Starfleet and was given a pretty bad rap for doing by his fellow Vulcans
>>(especially his Romulan Commander Father) so it isn't that unreasonable
>>that there shouldn't be that many Vulcans.
>
>Romulan Commander Father??????? I know it's 4 in the morning but I just can't
>get a grip on that one.

    The same actor played Sarek and the captain of the Romulan bird of
    prey in "Balance of Terror"  TOS.  They are _NOT_ the same character,
    in fact the captain of the bird of prey self destructed his ship at
    the end of that episode rather than let it fall into Federation hands.

    
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From: timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee)
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Subject: Sulu Re: English as Earth's standard language in the 24th Cent.?
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:28:34 GMT
Reply-To: timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current

hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg) writes:
|- Chekov is obviously a Russian native and Sulu a Japanese.

Hmmm, wasn't Sulu supposed to have met a 20th century ancestor in
San Francisco in ST4, but that scene got edited out?

That would mean that he's supposed to be American.

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From: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet)
Subject: Kill Troi fan club
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:34:47 GMT

Many people feel TNG is starting to go downhill, and I'm one of them. I think
the crew needs to be shaken up a bit and some new blood added to the show,
plus some more 'dark' plots. For everyone in agreement with me, here's
a proposal. Kill Troi!!!! So I hereby start the official 'Kill Troi fan
club', I plan to break the club down into several sub-committees that
will research and plan future scripts to be sent to the writers, here
are the suggested first committees:

1. The "I just want Troi brutally hurt, but she can stay in the show"
   committee.

2. The "I want Troi brutally hurt and written out of the show, but she can
   make guest appearances" committee.

3. The "I want Troi written out of the show without pain, and she can
   come back for guest apperances" committee. 
   (For wimps and/or the kids and/or retired TNG writers)

4. The "I want Troi killed and she can never come back" committee.
   (For slightly better then wimps and/or fired TNG writers)

5. The "I want Troi killed but she can come back for occasional guest
   apperances as a Romulian or other alien" committee.
   (Restricted to fired/retired TNG writers)

6. The "I want Picard to tell Troi off and maybe punch her in the mouth,
   but she can stay in the show if she keeps her mouth shut" committee.
   Note: Tie's in with committee 1.

7. The "I want Troi tortured, beaten, abused, killed and cut up into little
   pieces that get ejected onto some planet to be eaten but the local vermin
   and have Troi never make guest apperances" commitee.

8. The "I want Troi and Wesley to both get brutally killed, and never get
   to make guest apperances again" committee. 
   Note: Tie's in with another fan club.

OK! So let's start organizing, first we'll start a mailing list (we'll
beat that Damn Kira one too). So let's get going and remember to mention
what committee(s) you want to be on (or suggest a new one NOTE: Tie in's
with DS9 are allowed, but don't pick on Dax!). :-)

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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: troi
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:38:27 GMT


sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet) writes:
 >Dean Adams (dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
 >> Dax and Kira are also very good!  Star Trek already lost one of their
 >> women characters, and Ro seems to be on hiatus, so the last thing they 
 >> need to do is lose another female.  The show is VASTLY more interesting 
 >> with them that it would be without them.  Troi especially provides a very 
 >> unique point of view.  People who are intimidated by her body or her 
 >> relationship and authority with Picard would probably just be better off
 >> watching Space Rangers.  :->

 >"Growth potential"..... Maybe she packed on a few pounds, but that's
 >the only growth I ever seen from Sirtis. 

Come on, what show have you been watching?  You have it totally backwards.
Marina started out with a few extra pounds, but she has lost a LOT of weight
since then.  She is now probably at about her idea weight.  I don't know
what "pounds" you could be seeing...

 >The Troi character is totally useless,
Blah, blah, blah...  That line is more tired and cliche than ANYTHING
Troi has *ever* said.  It really amounts to the mark of someone with 
a totally closed mind when it comes to this character.

 >I'd like to see a little more of this exploration of space they keep
 >talking about instead of the current trend of exploration of deep 
 >emotional issues. 
Sorry, guy...  Star Trek is about *characters* and the "human condition".
If thats not for you, then might I suggest the aforementioned Space Rangers?

 >As for being intimidated by her body, I think only the wrestlers
 >you mentioned would be intimidated by her body. 
Indeed?

 >Her good/poor looks have nothing to do with why I and others would like 
 >to see Troi gone
I seem to see almost more "body" references from the rabid Troi-haters than 
from the people who LIKE her.  This obsession with a non-existant "weight" 
problem is a very good example.

 >Now my choice for a good Startrek women to lust over is Dax, at least she 
 >doesn't have to have the transporter beam set to "wide spread" to get her 
 >hips down to the surface. :-)
Whoops!  There you go again...<heh>   So you hate the character 
because of her skeletal structure?  Oh, yea... that makes sense.

 >As for Space Rangers I still haven't seen it yet, but I always
 >liked Battlestar Galatica so who knows if I'll like it.
In that case i'd say you should really *LOVE* Space Rangers!

 > You sound like a *shutter* Wesley lover to me! 
Ugh, excuse me while I hurl!!  Perhaps you should open your "shutter" and 
consult with Mr. Logic before making comments like that?   BTW, it just so
happens that I have seen many a troi-hater who DO seem to like that weasley
quite a bit.  Oh, well. I've never understood anyone preferring a ridiculous
and repulsive teenager, over an attractive and intelligent woman like Troi,
but that's just me I guess...  :->

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From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
Subject: Q's departurs vs. Enterprise's warp
Organization: University of Miami, School Of Medicine
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:13:42 GMT

Anybody notice that when Q departs, his "flash" is the same as the
Enterpise's when it warps away to the "horizon"?  

Another thing: if warp is supposed to at c+ speeds, why doesn't the
Enterpise show red and blue shifts when we see it going away from us
and coming towards us (respectively)?

Dan

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From: gvelden@ccs.northeastern.edu (George E Van Dervelden)
Subject: Babel - DS9's overlooked solution
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:40:35 GMT



I find it a little strange that the station had so much trouble with the
virus. So the virus generator bypassed the replicator's biofilter. Just put
the person that is infected, in the transporter and then that biofilter would
filter out the virus. Everyone would be back to normal. For the time being
anayway.


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From: hmoran@nswc-wo.? (Howard Moran)
Subject: Re: DS9 Grade Report: "A Man Alone"
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: NSWC White Oak
	<william.johnson-250193160805@tibia.engin.umich.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:21:28 GMT

In article <william.johnson-250193160805@tibia.engin.umich.edu> william.johnson@um.cc.umich.edu (William Johnson) writes:

   > 
   > Got a question/thought - we know that Odo can morph rather quickly (the first
   > time we see this in "Emissary" he's morphed to allow a weapon/fist to pass
   > through his head.) so - what does Odo have to fear from a mob?  He can morph
   > to evade physical violence or to escape through a grating or...  See?
   > 
   > hmoran@nswc-wo.nswc.navy.mil

   I think that the problem in facing a mob, is that if he is at all like
   Iman's character in STVI, then there would be a limit to the amount of 
   times that he could split open his head.  He might tire out from repeated
   morphings.

   Just my $.02

True enough in _facing_ a mob but he could still use the ability to _evade_
a mob until he found an _escape_ from the mob - a grating, f'r instance.
I wouldn't think much of his brains if all he (or the writers) could think
of is to try to face-down a mob, particularly in a confined space such as
the space station.  I hope that Odo is reasonably free of "heroic" or
"noble" traits that get people killed.

hmoran@nswc-wo.nswc.navy.mil
From: accsah@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No room at the bar !
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:31:32 EST

In article <930119.154053@ia.ph.bham.ac.uk>, HR-5@ia.ph.bham.ac.uk (Connor MacLeod (of the Clan MacLeod)) writes:
> If the Enterprise-D carries thousands of people (I'm sure someone
> out there will give me the exact number) then how come they have only
> one small bar (seating capacity approximately 30) and one bar maid  ?
> Isn't there a large queue on New Year's Eve ???

Its might not be the only true "Bar" with a view, but I assume that there would
be regular mess halls, and smaller dining room/bars onboard ship that do not
offer such a view.  Remember that the Enterprise-D in my view is more 
in line to catering toward the "family" so, they would have more than one
place to eat.

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