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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:26:23 EDT
Reply-To:     Dick and Jill Miller <dmiller@IM.LCS.MIT.EDU>
From:         Dick and Jill Miller <dmiller@IM.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Who to give genealogy data to
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

> paul@ms.uky.edu (Paul Eakin) writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a new reader of this group and unfortunately don't
> know if this querry has been answered many times before.
> The question is this:
>
> An elderly friend of mine is the last survivor of her
> family. Her late husband was the last of his. Apparently
> she has extensive geneological records of both and has
> no logical place to leave them. She would like to
> contribute them to a geneological archive where they
> might be of value to others in lines that continue.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any information on the
> proper disposition of such archives which might assist her.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>                                 Paul Eakin

The New England Historical & Genalogical Society may well be interested in
this material if no better place is found.  They do not confine their
information to New England.

--Jill
A. Richard & Jill A. Miller            | Miller Microcomputer Services |
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 13:29:49 PDT
Reply-To:     Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      Experienced netters in Frederick Co. Maryland?
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

I need local help Looking back for the origins of Methodists from
Frederick County Maryland:

James Peck (d. 1832) and Eunice Knight (d. 1832) died in
Maysville KY, presumably in the cholera epidemic of that
year leaving numerous orphan children, my g.g.g.grandmother
Sarah Peck among them.

Eunice Knight was the daughter of Joshua and Sophia
(Phillips) Knight , who were married 23 Jul 1790 in Frederick
Co. MD . Joshua was a member of the large family of William
and Sarah Knight, whose numerous children were born and raised
in Frederick Co. The children married there, but most removed
to Putnam County. In about 1800, some apparently stopping in
Maysville. This is traced out by LDS records. I would like to
go further.

1) A find no records for James Peck or his family. I have
asked in Maryland and have found no record in the Methodist
archives of their marriage.

2) The Knights may have been in Frederick Co. for a
long time. A William Knight was born there on 3 Mar1720. I
do not know if these Kinghts are related to the Knights
of Cecil Co. MD.

3) There is a Nicholas Philipps, immigrant from Germany to
Frederick Co. MD, member of the Lutheran Church, who became a
naturalized subject of Britain by an Oath of Abjuration on 13
Jul 1760. I have not been able to find direct Phillips
antecedants.

Does anyone have any thoughts? any reference material?

a little time (with compensation) to help?

Tom
From: mbh@sdphu3.ucsd.edu (Matt Harrington)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Need "Clute's History of Staten Island"
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:23:14 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdphu3.ucsd.edu

The Munsell's Index points me to a book called "Clute's History
of Staten Island", which I can't find at my library (Univ. of
California).

Perhaps there is a reader out there who has this book or knows
of it.  Any information is greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance.

					Regards,

					Matt Harrington
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From: suzanne@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Suzanne Barrett)
Subject: New User
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:31:06 GMT

I've just logged on here for the first time.  I have a lot of info. on 
several of my lines (CLARK, GOVE, DICKINSON, THOMAS, ALDEN, WOOD) but no 
experience in cataloguing this data.  Would someone please suggest a user-
friendly program for me.  Unfortunately, I'm fairly computer illiterate and 
I use a 20mb xt (8086 card, I think - Anyway, it's an AT&T PC6300).

Thanks, in advance.
Suzanne in CA
-----
suzanne@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
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From: jrobinso@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Judith L Robinson)
Subject: Re: Who to give genealogy data to
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:26:45 GMT


I put the question to my Mother who is a genealogist and also publishes the 
"Union Echoes".  Her first response was  Newberry Library of Chicago.  And then
she wondered if anyone had suggested those folks in Utah.

Judy
      Robinson.19@osu.edu    (not a genealogist - one in the family is enough)
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From: tswift@well.sf.ca.us (Theodore John Swift)
Subject: Re: Wall Chart
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 09:10:10 GMT


> Has anyone ever seen a program that will allow you to print a wall
> chart of _everyone_ in your DOS version PAF database?  A few months ago
> I found one that the author stated was pretty buggy, but that it was
> just a first cut.  I couldn't get it to run at all.

Hmmm... I don't know the details of how it works, or what you have in mind
with "everyone", but Banner Blue recently came out with a DOS application
that does this.  I'm spacing the name just now.  Will try to find it and
write back.
-Ted
-- 
----------------------
Ted Swift tswift@well.sf.ca.us or, better yet, Ted_Swift@qm.sri.com
"You bally well are informed, Jeeves!  Do you know everything?"
"I don't know, sir"    ~P.G. Wodehouse
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:29:32 -0500
Reply-To:     MELODIE SANDERS <MES@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU>
From:         MELODIE SANDERS <MES@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Civil War records
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Some more sources of Civil War records to add to Tom Lincoln's list...

	Arkansas 1911 census of Confederate veterans / transcribed and
	  edited by Bobbie J. McLane and Capitola Glazner. [Hot Springs
	  National Park, AR?] : Authors, 1977-1981. 3 vol.

	Arkansas Confederate veterans and widows pensions applications
	  / compiled by Frances T. Inguire.  St. Louis, MO : Author,
	  1985.

	Arkansas' damned yankees : an index to Union soldiers in
	  Arkansas regiments / By Desmond Walls Allen. (P.O. Box
	  303, Conway, AR 72032), 1987.  LC 87-70797.

	Index to application for pensions from the State of Oklahoma,
	  submitted by Confederate soldiers, sailors, and their
	  widows / sponsored by the Oklahoma Genealogical Society.
	  Oklahoma City, OK : OGS Projects Committee, 1969.
	  LC 83-150290.

	Index to applications for Texas Confederate pensions /
	  compiled by John M. Kinney. Rev. ed.  Austin, TX :
	  Archives Division, Texas State Library, 1977.  LC
	  84-142723.

	Republic of Texas pension application abstracts / by John
	  C. Brown ... [et al.].  (Box 1507, Austin, TX 78767 :
	  Austin Genealogical Society Publications, 1987. $40.00.
	  Review in: Genealogical Helper 41:6(Nov-Dec 1987):149.

I suspect there are more, but I haven't looked.  These citations
came from my files.

	Melodie Sanders		Internet: MES@VAX2.UTULSA.EDU
	Reference Librarian/Cataloger
	University of Tulsa
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Subject: copying old pictures
From: dkortenk@UWSPMAIL.UWSP.EDU
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:32:31 -0500
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        Susan White asked about making copies of old pictures and old
tintypes.
        I have had very good results copying old pictures using a 35mm SLR
camera with B&W Kodak film (ASA 100 or less) bought from any store. Most
colleges and universities have a "Media Center" or "Instructional Materials
Center" (usually in the library) for student and public use.  They will have
a photo copy stand with lights that you can use.  I either use my camera, or
put my film in their camera.  There are supervisors at these centers who are
very helpful.  I use no special filters.  Then I just have the film processed
at any film drop.
        Copying tintypes requires special film (high contrast film, I
think).  I have this done professionally, with excellent results -- e.g.,
being able to see each whisker on the person's face.
        If you only want a copy of a picture, and not a negative, take your
picture to a copy center with a laser color copier.  For a couple of
dollars (while you wait), they can make copies any size you want.  The
copies will be exact copies of the original.  These places are especially
useful when you are visiting a relative with pictures, but he or she will not
let you take the pictures for any length of time to copy.  You both can go to
the copy center and get laser printer copies while you wait.  And the
pictures are never out of your sight.
        Good luck!

        Daniel


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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 10:38:39 -0400
Reply-To:     Eugene E Rosen <eer@WORLD.STD.COM>
From:         Eugene E Rosen <eer@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rochester, NY
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try bruce kahn at bkahn@kodak.com.  He is the new president of the Jewish
genealogy society of rochester and should know the area and be able to
perhaps give you some leads. Hope this helps.
gene

Eugene E. Rosen                                           GENIE: erosen
22 Riverside Road                                       COMPUSERVE:74066,3444
Sandy Hook, Ct. 06482-1213                              AOL: Gene Rosen

______________________
         Internet:eer@world.std.com


On Tue, 21 Jul 1992, dkortenk@UWSPMAIL.UWSP.EDU wrote:

>         Could someone familiar with Rochester, NY, please tell me the county
> and township (or ward) for St. Joseph's Church, 108 Franklin St., Rochester,
> NY 14604.  I am interested in the period from 1849 to 1856.
>         Also, an ancestor married in this church is thought to have worked in
> an organ factory during this time.  Would anyone be able to identify
> an organ factory in this area of Rochester during this time?
>         Thanks!
>
>         Daniel
>
>
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From: us291442@mmm.serc.3m.com (Mark B. Mizen)
Subject: US census information
Organization: 3M Company
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:15:31 GMT

I would like to know where complete copies of the US census that have
have been released are available.  I have not seen this information 
posted to soc.roots recently and did not see it in the FAQ lists.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:44:35 BST
Reply-To:     Alastair_Kinross <alastair@GEC-EPL.CO.UK>
From:         Alastair_Kinross <alastair@GEC-EPL.CO.UK>
Subject:      scanners
Comments: To: Sally Kenney <AMCAST06@YSUB.YSU.EDU>
Comments: cc: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU
              29 Jul 1992 10:50:52 EDT <9207291714.AA06084@cuthbert.bashstreet>

Brother's Keeper Version 6 supports .PCX files and is very good -
download it from hall1.
Can't reccomend a scanner though - too dear for me!

Thanks
       Alastair Kinross

Alastair_Kinross%uk.co.gec-epl@uk.ac.uknet
Rugby, Warwickshire, UK

Researching KINROSS and SANG in Scotland
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From: paul@ms.uky.edu (Paul Eakin)
Subject: Family Records of Sole Survivor
Keywords: family geneology, last survivor
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:38:22 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Hello,

I am a new reader of this group and unfortunately don't
know if this querry has been answered many times before.
The question is this:

An elderly friend of mine is the last survivor of her
family. Her late husband was the last of his. Apparently
she has extensive geneological records of both and has
no logical place to leave them. She would like to
contribute them to a geneological archive where they
might be of value to others in lines that continue.

I would greatly appreciate any information on the
proper disposition of such archives which might assist her.

Thanks in advance.

				Paul Eakin
-- 

Paul M. Eakin ---- paul@ms.uky.edu, {uunet,rutgers}!ukma!paul, paul@ukma.BITNET
---- Dept. of Math., University of Kentucky, Lexington KY 40506
---- (606)257-6798 (office), (606)276-1048 (home)
From: lhe@dash.udev.cdc.com (lh erickson 913-469-9264)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: scanners
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:06:22 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


 > Can anyone tell me if they are currently using a scanner? ...

I use (from time to time) a Scanman 256 hand scanner on a 16Mhz 80360SX
machine, with Ansel software.  My comments follow:

1) The basic process has significant appeal, and potential.  I.e., I can
scan in a photograph, make significant enhancements, and print it out in
half-tone format.  With my HP-II (300 x 300 dpi) printer, the pictures
are almost equal to newspaper quality.  With Ansel, (and probably many
other packages too), I can remove stains, scratches etc., improve contrast,
crop excess background, zoom in on faces, etc..  The concept is good, and
the potential is there.

But, there is a downside:
2) Speed.  The 16Mhz 80386 processor is painfully slow.  The scanner will
overrun the computer memory speed at 300 and 400 dpi with a gray scale of
256!  This causes the entire machine to die!  Additionally, to perform a
simple rotation, contrast equalization, or other functions on a 3" x 5"
picture can take as long as 20 minutes.  And with larger pictures, the
time becomes much longer.  My patience soon expires.

3) Disk storage.  At 256 gray scale, with 200 dpi, a 3" x 5" picture requires
3 x 5 x 200 x 200 = 600K of memory, and without compression, each picture 
will require that much disk space.  Fortunately it can be compressed on disk,
but at 50 to 60% compression, this single picture will still require 360K of
disk space!  If you use a higher resolution, or more gray scales, then the
space will increase accordingly.  Similarly for larger pictures!  For example,
an 8" x 10" at 256 gray scales and 400 dpi (max for some scanners) will
require 8 x 8 x 400 x 400 = 12.8M (12,800,000 bytes) of memory!  Processing
will be very slow indeed, especially if it has to be swapped onto disk (this 
will occur if you computer memory is less than 16M)!

4) Print speed.  Sending my 3 x 5 picture to my HP printer over ethernet in
Adobe Postscript format required 45 minutes to 1 hour before I received
output.  This seems very excessive to me.  Perhaps your experience will be
happier!

5) Quality.  The quality does not meet my expectations.  I had hoped that
I would attain quality close to that of a newspaper picture.  This didn't
happen.  With more expensive equipment, and more patience, I think I could
easily exceed newsprint quality, but at this point in time, I can't justify
the additional investment.

Overall:  I would encourage you to try, provided you proceed knowing the 
potential areas that need further attention and improvement.  The basic
technology and tools are available.  However, utilizing them to meet your
particular budget and expectations will be a challenge.

Good luck.

Ron Erickson
lhe@hare.udev.cdc.com

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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:42:50 -0400
Reply-To:     astoner@MCIS.MESSIAH.EDU
From:         astoner@MCIS.MESSIAH.EDU
Subject:      Scanners & Old pictures
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Fellow Rooters,
   Sally asked in her message about using a scanner to save old pictures.  This
was somewhat surprising because I have just started doing this and was planning
to post a message about it.  Part of the reason that I am doing this is because
a great-aunt is having me type up the descendants of her parents.  I had played
around with the scanner at work and thought it might make the document more
interesting to add some pictures of the earlier generations.  This will also
give me a copy of all of the old pictures that my great-aunt has.

Hardware/Software
   I will state right up front that I am using equipment available at work and
not person (it's great to have nice toys).  The software that I am using is
Omni-Page, used to scan an image.  It won't scan a color picture, like some
other software available to me, but I can get it to scan at 300 dpi (dots per
inch) unlike the other software.  This may actually be a bit of a blessing in
disguise because a color picture scanned as black and white (256 shades) prints
much nicer from Word Perfect than a picture with 256 colors.
   The scanner is a HP Scanjet IIc, a large platform scanner.  It is attached
to an Everex 386/25 because the software does require windows.  The one
limitation of the configuration is that the machine only has 4 meg of memory,
which is not enough for large pictures at 300 dpi.  The printer I print the
pictures on is a HP Laserjet IIIsi.

If there are any questions, feel free to ask.

.......................................................................

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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:38:10 PDT
Reply-To:     Joni Ciarletta <ciarlett@MIZAR.USC.EDU>
From:         Joni Ciarletta <ciarlett@MIZAR.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Vital Records Summary
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

I received many responses to my question about obtaining vital records.
I thought this information would help others, so I am posting a
summary of what I received.  Thanks to all who replied!!!

1. Formal vital record keeping at the state and local level generally starts
about the time of the civil war, with some areas not getting started until
the early 1900's.  (Although a few go back to around 1880 or so).
Many genealogy books have tables which break this
out, since it varies from state to state and county to county.
Books mentioned over and over again in the responses I received were
"Red Book"  and "The Handy Book for
Genealogists".  Both books list when the state/county began keeping
vital records, where they are stored, and how to contact the facility.
"Red Book" also has state/county maps. "Red Book" is available from
Ancestry's Research Club, PO Box 475, Salt Lake City, UT  84110,
1-800-531-1790 for around $35. (The respondent was not affiliated
with this company in any way).  Both books are most likely available
at your local LDS branch library or public library.

2. Church Records in the US fill in the gaps.  Many church records of the
1630-1850 period have been published.  Many more are available on microfilm
at major genealogy libraries.  The most complete collection is at the
Family History Library in Salt Lake City.  This is run by the Mormon Church
but records are available to the public.  Branch libraries around the country
have the index, and most microfilms can be borrowed by the branch library
for a small fee.  To find a library, look up Church of Jesus Christ and
Later Day Saints in your phone book.

3. Massachusetts had each locality publish the 1630-1850 records around
1915.  Some towns not only published official data, but included tombstones
inscription data, and even  information from hand
stitched samplers.

4.  Census records, tax records, wills, deeds, and property transfers
sometimes list helpful information as well.



Hope this helps everyone!

Joni Ciarletta
ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:56:24 SST
Reply-To:     HISCRP@NUSVM.BITNET
From:         HISCRP@NUSVM.BITNET
Subject:      BK6

Alistair Ross refers in his mail to BK6 [six]. WHen did release 6 come out
and how is it different from BK5. How does one get it?
From: EUREKA@BRLNCC.BITNET
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Subject: SUBSCRIPTION
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:38:42 GMT
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SUBSCRIPTION ROOTS-L Eduardo Haddad Filho EUREKA@BRLNCC
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:24:35 -0900
Reply-To:     "ACAD2A::AHMJT" <AHMJT@ALASKA.BITNET>
From:         "ACAD2A::AHMJT" <AHMJT@ALASKA.BITNET>

SUBJECT:  Re: National Archives
An addition to National Archives branches:
ANCHORAGE, AK
654 West 3rd Ave.
Anchorage, Ak. 99501
(907)271-2441
Hours: 8a.m. - 4p.m., Monday-Friday, +one Saturday/month.
Areas: records related to Alaska were moved from their previous home at the
       National Archives-Pacific Northwest Region in Seattle to the Alaska
       Region during the summer of 1991 (also censuses for all states 1790-
       1920).
Peg Thompson
Technical Services Librarian
OSPIC
Anchorage
AHMJT@ALASKA.BITNET
From: sophia.brown@travel.uucp (Sophia Brown) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Specifications for Tiny T
Date: 20 Jul 92 14:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO, USA
Reply-To: sophia.brown@travel.uucp (Sophia Brown) 

BM>Date: 19 Jul 92 18:10:51 GMT

BM>     TITLE:         Tiny Tafel Specification

BM>     VERSION:       1.7 (Version 2 of TMS)

        Brian,

        This is a great deed you have performed, for all of us, who are
        not as knowledgeable in computer genealogy, as we hope to be.
        You were very kind to write this lengthy and most helpful
        message. Many thanks, Brian.  I, among others, do appreciate
        your assistance.

        Kindest regards,
        Sophia

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:54:00 EST
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From:         ACCNEWS@HOFSTRA.BITNET
Subject:      adoptee search

From: drmljg@hofstra.bitnet
Subject: adoptee search


Hello. This is my first posting on this list. I am an adoptee who is
looking for some fellow adoptees who would like to share their common
experiences, and provide moral support in our search for our birth
parents. If you are interested in corresponding with me please contact:
Laurence Galian
IN%"DRMLJG@VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU"
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