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Subject: Re: Get a Sabre!
From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:27:45 GMT
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)
Distribution: na
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU

In article <1992Nov12.202533.14742@ncar.ucar.edu> jan@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Jan Stewart) writes:


   In response to : gogo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Mark Gogolewski)

   "Now, if only I could get a canopy that would make the ride down as
   much fun as the free-fall :^).....sigh...."


   Get a SABRE!  You'll see.  You don't have to do swoop hook turns landings to
   have fun with your canopy. 

Though doing hookturns is a wonderful way to see your local hospital
and get to try all sort of exciting pain releiving narcotics! Trust
me! :-).

	 Just after opening I like to hold a riser turn
   (dive) for a couple seconds, then as fast as I can, let up on the riser and
   pull the opposite toggle with all my might.  You easily get yourself level or
   above the canopy.  I haven't yet given myself line twist, but I haven't pulled
   the brake toggle with both hands yet.  With that kind of speed, I can't pull
   it all the way down with one hand.  I am a little scared to try it.  Does
   anyone have a story of a radical move collapsing or malfunctioning a canopy?

I caused a 'function once by releasing one break instead of both
(just missed when I grabbed) when the canopy wasn't quite open, and
ended up spinning into line twists very very very deepy, with a
radically spinning canopy... too many G's to try to take care of it...
So, I supposed it *might* be possible with massively bad luck to trash
a canopy... let me know if you succeed!


However, I think I'll try your front-riser, rear riser move... in a
few months.

I have given myself line twists, though... just with one toggle, a
fast hard turn let up quickly... quite surprising when it happens!

Barry
ps. No one has any opinion on what canopy would be best for returnign
to jumping after an injury? Hmph! Or did that message not make it off
of this site?






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From: gogo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Mark Gogolewski)
Subject: Dinner on the Penninsula!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:06:12 GMT


Announcing the 2nd Bi-Monthly Pizza and Skydiving Stories
Extravaganza!!  Once again, we are going to have
a skydiving dinner in the Penninsula area.  Last time,
eight of us met at Round Table Pizza in Palo Alto for plenty
of pizza (Barbeque Chicken Supreme - it was weird), beer
and stories - past, present, and future.

This week:

     THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12
     6 PM TILL ??
     THE OASIS ON EL CAMINO IN PALO ALTO
     (Beer, burgers, pizza, ... )

If you are interested - please come by.  Consider it the
zoo load of dinners.

Blue Skies,

Mark Gogolewski


P.S.  I did my first night jump at Lodi this past Saturday,
and I must say that the jump goes on my list of incredible
things I've done in my life.  The jump consisted of a few
simple points during a 3-Way with John McAllister and Tina
Something (Mad John's wife for those who know him.)  It was
quite intense.
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Whuffo Q&A
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:30:46 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

Here's two that I use quite a lot

Q. Is it dangerous?
A. If it's done right.

Q. How often do skydivers die?
A. Just once.

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From: bill.farrant@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Farrant) 
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: CANPARA MAGAZINE
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:52:00 GMT
Reply-To: bill.farrant@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Farrant) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - (604)291-0800

   Hi Wayne, I have some info for you on our Canadian magazine, titled
Canpara.
   If you're interested you can get ahold of the editor as below.

   PJ Perdue
   #205, 2814 Pratt Cres.,
   Abbotsford, BC
   Canada
   V2S 4A7

   And you can fax or talk voice to her at 604-854-1426.

   I don't know for sure what a subscription rate would be for you, but
the subscription rate for the United States is $35 a year.
   It's certainly not as big a magazine as the U.S.P.A. has, but I think
it is quite good for the number of jumpers we have in Canada and there's
a higher content of humour in our magazine than most. PJ does a good job
with it.
   If you do talk to her tell her it was me that let you know about it,
she's a good friend of mine.

   ttul
   "Broken" Bill
                                                                                                                             
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From: fbm@ptcburp.ptcbu.oz.au (Farrell McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: nationals 92
Keywords: fun
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:41:14 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

kroon@alice.att.com (Peter Kroon) writes:

>Some results:

>10-way   As usual Carl Dauherties  (sp?) team won
>20-way   The team with the Golden Knigts, and Airmoves and Juggernaut won
>4-way    Deland vertical speed with Jack Jeffries won
>8-way    Golden Knights took the first place as usual.

Would someone be so kind as to post the competition draw and the round
by round scores for the 4-way and 8-way?  Or at least the 8-way?

ThanADVANCEks.
Farrell.
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From: matt@ra.oc.com (Matthew Lyle)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Rigs on airline
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:29:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Nov7.042944.8084
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX

jld@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Jeffrey DeMent) writes:
>I've taken my rig on Continental a number of times with absolutely
>no problems (it's in a black bag that looks like a back-pack).  I've
>gotten a few strange looks from the people running the scanners but
>they have never stopped the belt and asked me what was in the bag :)

I've been asked... at one of the American Airlines terminals at DFW.  He
laughed and told me I'd better not use it in one of Americans planes...

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                                                       matt@utdallas.bitnet
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From: kcameron@erc.cat.syr.edu (Ken Cameron)
Subject: Re: Rigs on Airlines?
Organization: Electronic Resource Center, Syracuse
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 13:12:52 EST

Someone at our DZ just got a Cypres and it included a little card for
use at airports to explain what the device is and what it should look
like on the X-ray. I don't know if it will help but it seems heads-up
by the vendor. I still think the best way is gear bag and carry-on
and offer as little info as posible.

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From: mark@vti.com (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Subscription to Parachutist
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:42:33 GMT

cowieson@brandonu.ca wrote:
: I too would be interested in the address for "Parachutist" - PLEASE!

USPA + Parachutist
1440 Duke Street
Alexandria, VA  22314
703-836-3495

Skydiving Magazine
PO Box 1520
DeLand, FL  32721
904-736-9779
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From: mstack@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu (Martin Stack)
Subject: Re: Skybound Schedule (The Discovery Channel)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:11:43 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

>*** FORWARDED MESSAGE BEGIN ***
>From: Vannevar Yu
>Date: November 9, 1992
>Subj: Skybound Schedule (The Discovery Channel)
>----------
>According to The New York Times Television guide 11/9/92:
>Skybound: The Discovery Channel (TDC)
>     11/12 Thursday 10:30 pm    VCR Plus+ 659541
>     11/13 Friday    1:30 am    VCR Plus+ 294416
>
>According to the Washington Post TV Week guide 11/9/92:
>Skybound: The Discovery Channel (TDC)
>     11/12 Thursday 10:30 pm
>
    Well now,  Since it is going to be showing again.  I am still going
to make those copies if you  want them.  With Materials and postage It is
going to be 7.75.   I will not send any tapes out until I hear from you via
e-mail.   So If you don't want it then you need not reply.  If you do
then state so. By Friday if you can.  :)

    Oh ... thanks for reminding me I have to call about my D.  I sent them
20 buck about a month ago and I haven't received my license yet  or my C!.



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From: drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Doug Puchalski)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Whuffo Q&A
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:11:19 GMT
Reply-To: drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Nov11.181351.13500@u.washington.edu>, taylor@hardy.u.washington.edu (Allen D. Taylor) writes:
>
>However, Scratch had dumped at 2.5.  He had a partial inflation (Oh, did I
>forget, we were all jumping Paracommander Competions, the hotest chute
>around &-} ) Which he fought down to 700 where it finally blossomed.  When
>Scratch got down and figured out how long he had fought with the PC and
>where he would have been had he pulled low (something like minus 800 feet)
>he sat down on the club house steps and smoked a pack of cigarettes. 
>Refused to talk to anyone.  Finally, he thanked Butch and never pulled low
>again. 

Didn't he realize it's that damn thin air above 1k that causes malfunctions?

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From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Subject: Re: International Freestyle Convention
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)
Cc: shibuya@chute.bl.cad.slb.com
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:05:05 GMT

Hiroto writes:
> You'll see them on ESPN next January, but I think it worth buying $25
> video from SkyHi Visual Productions.

Any address or phone # for them yet? Rumor (DanB?) said  that it
wouldn't be available til after January... any change in that status?

Barry

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From: robert.wilkins@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Robert Wilkins) 
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: DO CONTAINERS/RISERS WEAR
Date: 8 Nov 92 09:24:00 GMT
Reply-To: robert.wilkins@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Robert Wilkins) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - (604)291-0800

Risers do not wear out thank God. The tensil strength on most is over
5000 lbs and you have 4 of them. Good thing to as is major
reconstruction job to replace if one gets cut. BOB!!
                                                                          
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From: glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Subject: Re: Rigs on airplanes
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:55:27 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD - MWTD) - Santa Rosa, Ca.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

> Is the crew going to let walk you over to an exit, open the door, and
> jump?

 I've always wondered...is this even possible? Can the doors be opened
 in flight (not talking about the rear door on the 727)? Somehow I expect
 that you wouldn't be provided with the option of departing the aircraft.

 ..glen
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Bungee ban/ sport questioned
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:14:47 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Nov10.223015.5376@engage.pko.dec.com> koning@koning.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov10.192652.21754@cascade.Stanford.EDU>, eap@everest.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello) writes:
>|>	TRENTON, N.J. (UPI) -- New Jersey's labor commissioner said Monday he
>|>is considering a total ban on commercial bungee operations in the state.
>|>...
>
>I have no particular interest in doing bungee jumping.  And I would classify
>it as an amusement ride, not a sport -- but I don't see what relevance that
>question has to anything.
>
>In any case, this sounds like potential bad news.  What's to prevent some
>bureaucrat chairwarmer from trying to stomp on skydiving next?  Regulators
>need to find new things to regulate all the time, how else to justify their
>useless existence? 
>
>I'd say this is something to oppose both on principle and on self-interest
>(we might be next).

I don't think this is likely. It wasn't bungee jumping that came under the gun
but bungee jumping being marketed as an amusement park ride. Now (assuming for
the sake of argument that the FAA didn't regulate skydiving) if you were to
get a couple of tandem masters and a helicopter and go to county fairs etc.
selling first jumps then you would have a problem. It's one thing to decide
to go to a skydiving center or bungee club to get into the sport. Doing it on
an impulse and assuming that it's safe (after all, waiver or not it *must* be
safe since it's sitting there between the ferris wheel and the snow cone tent)
is quite another thing.



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From: geoffc@zebedee.UUCP (Geoffrey Coan)
Subject: Re: Skydiving GIF's
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Reply-To: uunet!ibmpcug!jshark!zebedee!geoffc
Date: 3 Nov 92 21:59:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Geoffrey Coan (disorganisation)
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

In article <1992Oct15.210400.1493@newsgate.sps.mot.com> beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
> My turn, 
> Some else so graciously gave me the following ftp
> site, so I thought I should pass it on...!
> 
> skydive.eng.ufl.edu
> 
Is there a mail-server here ?  Or, is there is a mail server at any other
sites that hold skydiving GIF's ?  Some of us poor people on the other
side of the pond don't have FTP and I would really like some good pictures

Cheers

Geoffrey

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From: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jim Beutel)
Subject: Re: Rigs on airplanes
Reply-To: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:50:37 GMT

>In article FB7@vti.com, mark@vti.com (Mark Smith) writes:
>hleaves@gems.vcu.edu wrote:
>: So, your plane's going down, but you've got your rig with you
>: under the seat.  What would you do? Jump or ride it down? Is
>: the crew going to let walk you over to an exit, open the door,
>: and jump?
>
>I don't imagine that that would ever happen.  



Not mention the fact that if you have your rig, (probably
the only one back with the passengers) you most like would
get killed from the others attempting to relieve you of it..!


Jim

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From: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jim Beutel)
Subject: Re: Skybound Schedule (The Discovery Channel)
Reply-To: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:31:50 GMT

Skybound is the program name. Be sure that the segment
you reference is called Body Pilots, I have seen several
Skybounds segments and they all vary. Sometimes they are 
vintage aircraft, homebuilts, acro, etc.....! The episode 
from last week showing Skydiving was called Body Pilots.
Very good if you happened to catch it.

Regards,
Jim

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From: dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs)
Subject: Re: Rigs on Airlines?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 08:48:27 GMT

Well, it's comforting to hear that most US carriers cooperate in this
regard.  Certainly the two times I've tried it I never had any problem.
But what about non-US carriers?  In particular, I've got a trip to Sydney,
Australia coming up in a few months, and I'll be taking my rig.  Just yet,
I don't know what carrier I'll be flying, so I can't call and ask.  But
what experiences have people had on international flights?

And why are people so allergic to checking bags?  I've never had, or even
seen a bag end up in the wrong place.  At worst, when I've had a last
minute flight chance, I've arrived a few hours later than my bags did.
When was the last time you heard of a bag being lost for good, or even
delayed more than a few hours?  As to the baggage handlers, I'll admit that
it might be a good idea to carry your altimeter and dytter.  But a rig in a
sturdy gear bag is really pretty rugged, especially when protected by a
layer or two of jumpsuits.  I know that they can get rough with bags, but I
don't think they get *that* rough.

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From: mark@vti.com (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Rigs on airplanes
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:57:25 GMT

hleaves@gems.vcu.edu wrote:
: So, your plane's going down, but you've got your rig with you
: under the seat.  What would you do? Jump or ride it down? Is
: the crew going to let walk you over to an exit, open the door,
: and jump?

I don't imagine that that would ever happen.  I can't even imagine
of an instance where a parachute would ever come in handy in a
commercial airline.  Does that mean I lack a sufficient imagination
to make up such a scenario:

1.	Uhm, attention folks, this is your pilot, we are in
	pretty pickle up here.  All of our instruments are dead
	and we're dangerously low on fuel, if you have a parachute
	I suggest you put it on...

2.	Picture this... the plane has just cracked in half, and there
	are pieces of plane all over the sky, I unbuckle my seat belt
	and fly over to where my parachute is.  I hurry because I know
	I only have about 2 minutes.  I ignore the woozyness I feel
	from the thin air and hope that my lungs won't fail me yet.
	As I track towards safety, I know I'll remember the scene of
	all the people flailing around in the sky around me for a
	long time...

Either scenario is highly unlikely.

Does anyone out there remember, the "Odd Couple" episode where felix
and oscar get a really cheap air fare, but find out that the reason
that the fare is really cheap is because the plane drops you out over
the city instead of landing?
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Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 10:31:28 -0500 
From: Gina Ly <gl0z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Skybound Schedule (The Discovery Channel)


*** FORWARDED MESSAGE BEGIN ***
From: Vannevar Yu
Date: November 9, 1992
Subj: Skybound Schedule (The Discovery Channel)
----------
Yahoo!  The Discovery Channel (cable station) will be showing "Skybound"
this week again.  "Skybound" is a thirty minute feature on our favorite
sport, buying cases of beer ... uhhh ... I mean Skydiving.

According to The New York Times Television guide 11/9/92:
Skybound: The Discovery Channel (TDC)
     11/12 Thursday 10:30 pm    VCR Plus+ 659541
     11/13 Friday    1:30 am    VCR Plus+ 294416

According to the Washington Post TV Week guide 11/9/92:
Skybound: The Discovery Channel (TDC)
     11/12 Thursday 10:30 pm

These are the only two Sunday papers I read.  Scanned through the ESPN
schedule and didn't see the FreeStyle matches yet.
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From: maawg@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Andrew Gill)
Subject: Mags/Publications/Videos
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:20:24 GMT

Hi.  I imagine this is frequently asked, so excuse my ignorance, but are
there any skydiving mags/publications/vidoes available in Australia ? 
If so, where oh where can I get it/them ?

Prefer email, to limit any further embarrassment.

T
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From: egyed@LNS62.TN.CORNELL.EDU (zoltan egyed)
Subject: Re: Restraints for Skydivers
Nntp-Posting-User: ze10@cornell.edu
Reply-To: EGYED@lns62.tn.cornell.edu
Organization: Wilson Lab, Cornell U., Ithaca, NY, 14853
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:56:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.023507.6184@mercury.cair.du.edu>, tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (five left and cut!) writes:

>In the latest USPA Parachutist, there is mention of easy to use 
>restraints for use in the perfectly serviceable airplane. Easy 
>to use, built into the harness types.

On the last Boogie-Til-Ya-Puke, Mike Mullins was trying out the setup
with benches in the King Air, to be used with restraints connected
to the harness. The people's response was positive to the bench, he's
probably going ahead with it.

  Zoltan

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