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From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP Scanjet 2c -- HP 9000/700
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 15:32:26 GMT
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

In article <1992Sep29.154100.20796@cadsun.corp.mot.com> kniveton@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com (Andy Kniveton) writes:
>Can I connect a HP Scanjet 2c to a HP 9000/720 730, I'm getting conflicting
>info from HP and Tetra Systems Inc.
>
>HP are telling me the HP Scanjet 2c is a SCSI device and Tetra Systems Inc are
>telling me its a parallel device.

The ScanJet IIc is a SCSI device.  I've got one hooked to the scsi bus of a 720
right now.  The earlier ScanJet+ is a parallel device.
>
>Tetra Systems Inc supply the software to drive the scanner.
>
They supply _a_ driver for this scanner.  Before you buy, check out Pixel!FX
from Mentalix (214.423.9377).  I demo'd both, and found pfx to be much better
than TetraScan.  We are a beta site for pfx, but have no other ties w/Mentalix.

Regards-
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: houten@pttnwb.nl (K. van Houten)
Subject: Re: hpterm survey
Keywords: emulators
Organization: PTT Telecom b.v. The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:28:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct02.171407.24987@cadlab.sublink.org>, martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli) writes:
|> xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
|> 
|> :In article <1992Sep28.173159.22849@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> hpterm-feedback@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com writes:
|> :
|> :I don't use HPTERM, since it doesn't work on our Suns.  XTERM works
|> :everywhere, SUN DEC HP etc...
|> 
|> HEAR HEAR!!!  Down with proprietary unportable kludges!  Up with portable
|> kludges!-) [no, seriously, I answered the same way.  standard is better
|> than better, REALLY, for poor guys like us struggling to support/use/
|> administer a dozen different platforms...]

I fully agree, and just look to the memory use of hpterm vs. xterm!

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From: sjp@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Steve Phillips)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 15:39:50 GMT
Subject: Re: automount
Organization: the HP Response Center, Atlanta
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

This problem was submitted to the factory on Service Request #1653030551,
which was sent to the factory as a Critical problem on 92/09/10.
The SR is currently in Marketing Review status. (ie being worked on).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mcm@gorgon.unx.sas.com (Mike Mitchell)
Subject: UUCP across HPIB?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:57:50 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

I'm looking for software that transfers data across an HPIB connection.
I have a situation where I can't use ethernet, but I can use parallel
or HPIB interfaces.  I know that the parallel ports on the model 700's
are output only (at least under HP-UX 8.07), so I can't use them.

I'd really like something that multiplexes several pseudo-tty connections
on the same HPIB connection, like so:

pty                                                     pty
lines       +----------+              +----------+      lines
      <---->| software |              | software |<---->
      <---->| on HP750 |              | on HP750 |<---->
      <---->|          |  HPIB cable  |          |<---->
      <---->|          |<------------>|          |<---->
      <---->|          |              |          |<---->
      <---->| machine  |              | machine  |<---->
      <---->|    A     |              |    B     |<---->
      <---->|          |              |          |<---->
            +----------+              +----------+

I'd like to use this for UUCP traffic and logins.  We currently use 8 serial
ports between a model 300 and a model 800, but I'd like to switch this
application to a higher throughput if possible.  For reasons I don't want
to go into, we cannot use the ethernet ports.  Has anyone heard of anything
that might come close to this?  Does anyone have any ideas?

I'd be happy if someone knew how to use the HPIB port for UUCP transfers.
I could wait on the other login ports if the file transfers completed
quickly.

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From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: emacs on the 700
In-reply-to: rdg@fc.hp.com's message of 25 Sep 92 18:15:33 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 26 Sep 92 05:07:05 GMT

In article <Bv5C1x.33t@fc.hp.com> rdg@fc.hp.com (Rob Gardner - Pro Hacker) writes:

???
???   Steve Bennett (bennett@boilerbob.corp.mot.com) wrote:
???   > I am using  emacs on an hp700.  If I type emacs -nw it comes up with the
???   > buttons  much like mail or sam.  However, If I just type emacs it brings
???   > up a new window without the buttons.  Has anyone found a workaround  for
???   > this.
???
???   It's not clear which behavior you want a workaround for. If you don't
???   want emacs to create a new window, just unset your DISPLAY variable.
I think Rob misunderstood the question. As I understand it, Steve is
using an hpterm in the -nw mode, so the "HUGE HP-emacs" comes up with
a function key menu at the bottom. Under X, the menu does not appear
automatically. 
I assume that if he hits the Menu F-key, he will get it (at least I
do).
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Hardy 
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET

From: ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:48:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Bizarre swap error on Hp 750 running 8.0.7
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> If you need more swap space, you will have to remake the kernel, after
> changing maxswapchunks.

I wasn't aware of maxswapchunks either.

> Since I was unaware of this fact and hadn't changed maxswapchunks,
> swapinfo reported the swap space on the second disk to be 97% full.

That's weird, swapinfo doesn't use maxswapchunks.  It uses sw_nfpgs
(number of free pages) from the kernel, subtracting that value from the
total size of the swap area.  Well, perhaps sw_nfpgs was reduced due to
the cap, thus causing the computed value of USED to look large, and also
yielding a net negative hold value.

So the numbers "make sense", once you know there's a cap.  Still,
they're confusing if you don't know.  That's a bug, I'll report it.
Thanks.
From: gmh@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Hughes)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:48:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Converting HP300 to X terminal
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>I have an old HP 9000/320SRX system whose disk just crashed and burned. It's
>not worth spending the money to replace/fix it but I hate to just pitch the
>nice large color monitor. I was thinking about setting up an X11R5 server
>binary for the 300 architecture on a 720 I have and just have the 300
>download the server image just like it was an X terminal. The 300 would only
>be running the X server, not HP-UX. Is this possible? Has anyone else done
>this and have any suggestions or references? I've been told by an engineer
>at our local HP office that others are doing this but he didn't have any
>details. I called the Response Center but the guy they handed me off to had
>no idea about how to do this. I guess the crux of the problem is can a 300
>be configured as a diskless unit that can poll the network for an image
>to download?


I have done something like this, but it involves booting HP-UX, then starting
X from init.  Essentially all I did was modify /etc/inittab to not start a 
getty on the console and instead execute /usr/bin/X11/X. 

This solution may not be what you are looking for as you'd have to set up the 
720 to be a heterogeneous cluster server so the 320 can boot diskless 
(requires rev. B bootrom).

An alternative is to buy a 700/RX X-terminal base unit, re-use your monitor
(the X-terminal can be configured to support most 1024x768 to 1280x1024 60 to 72
Hz monitors).  This would give you MUCH better X performance than the SRX and
a small desktop package.

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From: steve-t@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Taylor)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:48:12 GMT
Subject: Re: IV3.1 beta3 build problems/HP750
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, fuad@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Turnando Fuad) writes:
| Has anybody ever encountered these error messages for the HP 9000/700 series 
| machines?  ...
| ../../../.././src/include/InterViews/_names.h: 75: too much defining

You need to give a -H option to cpp (see cpp(1) in the HP-UX Reference).
Usually, this takes the form -Wp,-H,<value> when it appears in a compiler
command line.  Note:  no spaces in the "p,-H,<value>" part.  <value> is
the number of bytes allocated for the macro symbol table, default is 128000;
so you'll need something bigger.
						Regards, Steve taylor

NOT A STATEMENT, OFFICIAL OR OTHERWISE, OF THE HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: houten@prso.pttnwb.nl (K. van Houten)
Subject: Re: Using laserromg300 with nfs-mounted CD-ROM
Keywords: CD-ROM, nfs-mount, laserrom
Organization: PTT Telecom b.v. The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:47:40 GMT

In article <3091@unieinf.UUCP>, mech@sparc2.ikb.uni-essen.de (Thomas Mechlinski) writes:
|> 
|> 			Hi netters,
|> 
|> I have a problem using the HP-UX online Manuals with the program
|> laserromg300. We have a CD-ROM-device mounted at a SUN-SPARC-Station.
|> This device is mounted via NFS from several HP-9000s300's. 
|> 
|> The files on the HPLaserRROM (HP-UX 8.0 + information) can be read
|> without problems on this computers. But, when I try to start 
|> laserromg300 (or laserromc300), there appears the message
|> 
|>           No databases could be found.
|>    Check the `dbloc' values in the .laserromrc file

This seems to me a difference in the translation of the HS (High Sierra) format
to the local filesystem.
HP keeps the upper case only names on the HS disk, while
SUN translates them to lower case only.
Now the Lrom software tries to open a UPPERCASE filename, and fails...

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PTT Telecom b.v.		UUCP:	uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!pttdis!houten
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: scott@statsci.com (Scott Blachowicz)
Subject: Re: HP and windows NT
Reply-To: scott@statsci.com
Organization: Statistical Sciences, Inc., Seattle, WA USA
	<JINX.92Sep21202001@chamarti.ai.mit.edu>
	<1992Sep28.090517.23905@fwi.uva.nl>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:14:27 GMT

>>>>> "Casper" == Casper H.S. Dik <casper@fwi.uva.nl>

 Casper> How can you implement case sensitivity on top of a case insensitive
 Casper> filesystem? You have a choice in the names you use. Programs like
 Casper> make can warn the user when both File and file exist. Sun make does.

Try AmigaDOS. Filename lookups are case INsensitive, but they are presented
and created as mixed case filenames. I believe they use whatever case the user
typed when the file was created. So, things can go something like this:

        % echo >AmigaDOS.File hi there
        % ls
        AmigaDOS.File
        % cat amigados.file
        hi there

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From: takay@pegasus.comp.Yokogawa.CO.JP (Taka Yuki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: What 524Kb of shared memory for each X clients ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:20:58 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation,Tokyo,Japan


I have some HP9000/7xx workstations as well as some 400s and an 834ch workstations.
Lately, I found that there were many shared memory entries of 524kb segment size
by the ipcs command.  It seems X has created them for each X clients like xclock,
datebook, hpterm, etc.  Strange things are that D flag is set and NATTCH is 0
for those entries.  I never see such shared memory entries for 400s or 834ch.
I have 32Mb of main memory, but I don't want to waste such much memory.

In my Japanese environment, an hpterm keeps 2 shared memory entries; one for
the hpterm itself and the other for an xj0input ( Japanese input server ).
Total is more than 1Mb for each hpterm !!

Do anyone know what they are and how to avoid the problem ?

Thanks in advance,

--
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Yokogawa Electric Corporation
Telephone: 81-422-52-5624	 Facsimile: 81-422-52-2540
From: ssouth@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Steve South)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP1000, HP9000 Model 720, and HPGL->PS conversion
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:23:23 GMT
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA

/ hpldsla:comp.sys.hp / mleech@bnr.ca (Marcus Leech) /  6:44 am  Sep 30, 1992 /


>When I had the misfortune of being an HP1000 system manager, I made it my
>  task to write an xmodem-like file transfer mechanism.  All I had was
>  FORTRAN, and FMGR.

>I met with absolutely zero success.  The system insisted on taking any amount
>  of typeahead as a request to suspend the currently-executing program and
>  prompt you for some debugging action.  This behaviour was so infuriating,
>  that I gave up in disgust.

Good grief, man, did you not know how to disable prompt? CN,LU,21B from
fmgr, or the equivalent EXEC 3 control request. That's one of the
fundamentals. Oh, and XMODEM has been around for the 1K for years, even on
the M-E-F series.

>Marcus Leech, 4Y11             Bell-Northern Research  |opinions expressed


Steve South.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: wk@cup.hp.com (Wayne Krone)
Subject: Re: 3rd party disks
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:59:25 GMT
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk wrote:
: We have WREN 7s, and a couple of times fsck has objected with a 
: I/O error in critical disk errors. The normal response is to reformat.
: However, mediainit cannot handle WREN 7s - giving an I/O error as
: soon as it hits the bad block. The only solution (it appears) is to

Without looking at the code, this doesn't sound right to me.  All
mediainit does is invoke the driver which in turn just issues a SCSI
"FORMAT UNIT" command to the drive.  It's up to the drive to do all the
work of formatting the media and handling any bad sectors.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: laubner@ipk.fhg.de (Guido Laubner)
Subject: Does HP support POSIX.1 ?
Keywords: HP POSIX
Organization: IPK Berlin, Inst. fuer Produktionsanlagen- und Konstruktionstechnik der FHG
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:19:25 GMT


Hi,
i'm working with different partners in a european r&d - project for
robot simulation. Currently, we are studying whether the POSIX.1 standard
fulfills our requirements as an independent interface layer to operating 
system-dependent funcionalities.  Because there's a lot of different machines
and operating systems involved, i (badly) need some information on POSIX
on certain platforms.
One plattform is  HP 433 ( HPUX ) and HP-700 series ( UNIX ).
Here are my questions :

1. Does HP support POSIX.1 ?

   I have to use the following system calls ( as specified in POSIX.1 ) :
      - creat     ( Creates a new file or rewrites an existing one )
      - unlink    ( Removes a directory entry )
      - open      ( Opens a file )
      - close     ( Closes a file )
      - read      ( Reads from a file )
      - write     ( Writes to a file )
      - fork      ( Creates a process )
      - execve    ( Executes a file )
      - wait      ( Waits for process termination )
      - waitpid   ( Waits for process termination too )
      - sigaction ( Examines and changes signal action )
      - kill      ( Send a signal to a process )
      - pipe      ( Creates an interprocess channel )

2. If HP does not support POSIX.1, is it possible to simulate
   POSIX.1 - systemcall behaviour with existing systemcalls ?

3. If HP does not support POSIX.1, do they want do to so ?
   Are there any anouncements ? When will they do ?

4. Is HP' os like sys5-style or bsd-style unix ?

I thank you for any help, hints or comments one this questions.
Please reply via email. Thanks a lot !!
                                                Guido
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From: fkam@sodium.EBay.Sun.COM (Francis Kam - Asia CS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP1000
Date: 29 Sep 1992 08:16:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sodium.asia.sun.com
Keywords: HP1000



If you have been using HP1000, pls see if you could share with
me its processor type and operating system name.  I know the 
HP9000 series is using HP-UX and M68K or PA RISC.  But HP1000???

Appreciate any info.

-- francis kam

--
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SUN Microsystems (Asia)         *Disclaimer: opinion is of my own, not my
Customer Service                             employer.
francis.kam@asia.sun.com  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bcripe@hpcvusc (Brian E. Cripe)
Subject: Re: X-Windows apps under VUE
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:17:51 GMT

> When installing X-Windows applications such as WordPerfect and xrolodex 
> under VUE, I've found it necessary to run the apps within an HPTERM.  If
> I try a straight invocation with NO-STDIO, the application window never
> appears.

I don't use either of the applications you mention, but we have lots
of X applications configured as NO-STDIO actions so I'm surprised by
your problem.  For debugging it is sometimes useful to edit
/usr/lib/X11/vue/Vuelogin/Xsesssion and change the line that reads:

    exec >/dev/null 2>/dev/null

If you point this at a file then you can see if the application
happens to be writing to stderr.  Alternatively you can make the
command string for your action something like:

	/bin/sh -c 'wordperfect > /tmp/wp.out 2>&1'

Hopefully this will help you find the problem.

	Brian Cripe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ugewa001@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de (0134)
Subject: /etc/disktab entry for FUJITSU M2623 FB
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 08:50:58 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld
Keywords: /etc/disktab, FUJITSU
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp

Hi everyone

The subjectline says it all.

I need information for a /etc/disktab entry for our new
FUJITSU M2623FB Drive.!!!!!!!

folker




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Universitaet Bielefeld            *  unless declared integer."
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: mediainit and large disks
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:52:04 GMT
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Labs

Is there a limit to the size of disk that mediainit can handle ?
We have just attempted to format a Seagate ST42400 2.1G disk. It seemed 
to be working - until approx 3hr into the format, it failed with
an initialize media command failed - I/O error.
Thanks in advance,
	Mark
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: klg0582@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken-Huang Lin)
Subject: problem with ispell in GNU emacs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:33:50 GMT


  Just upgraped the Unofficial HP GNU emacs from 18.57 to 18.58 on
9000/730.  Everything seems to be fine except for ispell.  The ispell
program has been installed on /usr/local/bin.  While it worked fine
for the old emacs, the "ispell-buffer" wouldn't work for this newer
version with the error message

"Args out of range: "1 6: upgraded", 14, 13"

appeared in the minubuffer.  Any fix would be appreciated.

Ken H. Lin
khlin@uiwpls.ece.uiuc.edu
From: campbelr@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:16:58 GMT
Subject: Re: BSD Compatible Library
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> I've got HP9000/710 with standard HP-UX8.07 installed at factory last
> week.
> BSD4.3 libc compatible library, /usr/lib/libBSD.a is missing,
> though it exists on HP9000/370(HP-UX8.0).
> Where can I find "killpg()" function on HP-UX8.07 ?
> Any help would be appreciated.

It should exist in the /usr/lib/libBSD.a library.  This library is
part of the PROG-AUX fileset, make sure that it has been loaded on
your system.
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Bob Campbell                Some times I wish that I could stop you from
campbelr@cup.hp.com         talking, when I hear the silly things you say.
Precision Risc Organization                        - Elvis Costello
From: deanc@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Dean Cashen)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:32:22 GMT
Subject: Re: HP and windows NT
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID