HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: greg@Quotron.COM (Greg "Maddog" Knauss)
Subject: Re: art packages for a ST?
Organization: Quotron System, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:56:56 GMT

neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes:

>Actually there has never really been a Deluxe Paint for the ST. Electronic
>Arts renamed a package called Da Vinci to Deluxe Paint just to get sales
>based on the fame of the Amiga package of the same name. The two programs are
>nothing like eachother.

True, the ST Deluxe Paint shouldn't be mistaken for the Amiga/PC version, but
it's still a great package.  I was a dyed-in-the-wool NeoChrome fan (and not
even the final release -- the one they sent with my computer way back when)
until I tried Da Vinci/Deluxe Paint ST.
--
Greg Knauss (greg@duke.quotron.com)                  "Llamas, dammit!  Llamas!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: What are the Falcon's capabilities?
From: <KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:53:15 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Just as the title says, I would like to know more about the Falcon computer.

Ken
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: WARP 9 and CAD 3D 2.0
Keywords: CAD
Date: 14 Nov 92 00:53:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Nov13.141015.3457@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> rrk@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (kutz,randolph r) writes:
>One problem left:  has anyone successfully gotten the CAD 3D hardcopy
>routine to work with G+plus replacing GDOS?

Have you talked to the CodeHeads about it?

>Is Tom Hudson still writing software somewhere?  This CYBER series
>is just incredible.

Tom Hudson was writing software for Autodesk; I'm pretty sure he worked on
Studio 3D.  You can see some of the similarities between it and the Cyber
stuff.  It even supports the Cyber format.

If you're looking for more 3D stuff for the ST, I'd highly recommend that
you contact Lexicor Software.  Their stuff is much easier to use than the
Cyber series, while still remaining compatible for the most part.

Lee Seiler
Lexicor Software Corp.
58 Redwood Road
Fairfax, CA  94930
Work phone: 415-453-0271
Fax line: 415-453-0533

(Address and phone numbers courtesy of Cardfile. :^) 


-- 
   |||    Ed Krimen
   |||    ekrimen@wet.uucp
  / | \   E.KRIMEN (GEnie)
From: Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk (Craig Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ANA-Systems Modula 2
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:32:31 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


Also note that the ANA Systems Modula 2 compiler has to many bugs to make it
a viable system for developing under. Try using the Modula 2 system marketed by
HiSoft in the UK. It's much more reliable, even if the enviroment (at least in
the version I run) isn't as good as HiSoft's other products (Lattice C, HiSoft
Basic 2, Devpac 3, etc).

Craig Graham       | E-mail:Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk
BAe Space Systems  | Phone : (UK) 091 2737650
Stevenage, England.| Snail-mail: 38 Brighton Grove, Fenham, Newcastle, England.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: d09c@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Juergen Lock)
Subject: Re: Elvis 1.6Beta2 & Mint & Minix & Gemini
Organization: Univ. Bremen, Informatik
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:28:52 GMT

malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:

>Something strange has been happening - I'm running Gemini/Mint 0.95/MINIX_XFS - if I
>open up the console window and "cd" to a TOS directory and "elvis" some file
>then elvis runs normally - if I "cd" to a MINIX partition and "elvis" some file
>then "elvis" spits out the message "Unknown Terminal Type" and closes down.

>If I just run MINIT/MINIX_XFS/TOSWIN and "cd" to a MINIX partition and "elvis"
>some file then "elvis" runs normally.

>It appears that Gemini has a problem with MINIX partitions and Elvis 1.6Beta2 - I 
>didn't have this problem with "elvis 1.4" but "elvis 1.4" doesn't work with 
>Mint/Toswin.

 sorry if it sounds stupid, but did you set $TERM and have an entry for
that in /etc/termcap?  (i have put mine into the readme.)

 or maybe it couldn't find the /etc directory... i think the termcap
library looks for it on the `current disk' i.e. in /etc not u:/etc.
if its that try setting $TERMCAP to either the `absolute' filename like
e.g. /dev/u/etc/termcap (u:/etc/termcap wont't work) or to the
description itself (thats why u:/etc... doesn't work, then it thinks
its a description).  or set the rootdir in $UNIXMODE, e.g. with
UNIXMODE=ru all filenames starting with / get translated to u:/ thanks
to the MiNT libs.

 oh and with toswin it probably works because toswin sets $TERMCAP
to its own description itself... (unless you turn that off.)

>Bob Malay
 hope that helps (and my english wasn't too strange :-)
	Juergen
From: heraud@boole (HERAUD pascal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GEMULATOR?
Date: 4 Nov 92 16:57:17 GMT
Organization: University of Grenoble (France)

Don't say oops!This emulator exist!!!
It an contained in a plug in card...I've read it in a magazine
but don't afraid in this zine they said thaT:
"With a 386 25Mhz we try to have a gem but it was very slow
We think that with a 486 33 the emulator is as fast as a st 8Mhz"
Hehe what a PC joke !!!!

-- 
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
////HERAUD|SELDON|CAPTAIN BUG//heraud@ufrima.imag.fr////
//Falcon soon....///////////////////////////////////////
//C=Mips eater+brain blaster////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez)
Subject: Re: The FALCON - too slow ??
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:01:49 GMT

In article <1dprp3INN9rg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
|> 
|> In a previous article, cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Christopher Walton) says:
|> 
|> >A friend yesturday said he'd seen the FALCON in Dusseldoff and the screen scrolling
|> >in 'true colour' mode was like glue.   I haven't actually seen a falcon yet but I 
|> >have read most articles on it and this wasn't mentioned.   Since he owns a TT
|> >and is likely to be biased, can anyone else set my mind at rest ???
|> >
|> >Thanks - Chris (cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk)
|> 
|> Maybe the software made it slow?
|> 
   It shall be slow... it is more memory to move + CPU memory contention
since the video bus is the same as the cpu bus to memory.

- Raist
From: weiner@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mail server at atari.archive?
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:46:55 GMT
Organization: Umich Atari Posse, In Full Effect
NNTP-Posting-Host: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov7.211654.27943@prime.mdata.fi> paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau) writes:
>
>Does the mail-server at atari.archive work yet? If it doesn't, can
>anybody give me a hunch when it's going to be working?
>--

Not yet and not really.  Actually, Jon is working with the people that
maintain the machine the archive is on to get something going.  
I'd imagine it should be up within a week or so.



-- 
 -  Jeff Weiner  -  weiner@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu  -  Umich Atari Posse  -
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Ghost Virus
Keywords: Virus
Date: 4 Nov 92 18:17:29 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1273@se.alcbel.be> cgra@se.alcbel.be writes:
>
>I have been foolish enough to get my ST hard disc infected with the Ghost
>virus - and lived with the symptoms for several weeks before I suddenly

I thought the ghost virus would only infect the boot sectors of floppies.
I don't think it's on your hard drive (although I could be wrong).

What you should do is get a copy of Virus Killer 3.84 from atari.archive.
That should get rid of it.

-- 
   |||    Ed Krimen
   |||    ekrimen@wet.uucp
  / | \   E.KRIMEN (GEnie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: late Falcons...
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:45:14 GMT

Hey, think about the state Atari is in right now - restructuring etc. Users 
have also expressed their feelings about another machine in the ST/STe 
casing. I think it might be wise for Atari to wait until January to 
introduce the Falcon and then in a new casing. There is no software 
available right now which takes specific advantage of the machine and would 
it really be such a Christmas hit?? Maybe it is better for Atari to get 
their cash from LYNX sales this Christmas so that they can back a real 
Falcon campaign early next year???

Just thoughts...

Nomad

Jon Lovstad                |   Sorry, but this part of my .sig file has been
jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no    |   retconned by DeFalco...
                           |
SnailMail: Hjortsbergvn 7  |
N-1784 HALDEN, NORWAY      |   OOOPS! He took the other part as well...
Voice: +47 9 18 49 38      |
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: PC screen Saver
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:12:12 -0700

In <1dnnd1INNh39@golem.wcc.govt.nz> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>Well does any one know of a good PD, screen saver for a 286 PC running
>DRDOS 6.0..

>One that can be customised with a name/logo in it, etc...

	Don't they get the comp.sys.ibm.pc.* groups in New Zealand either,
Roger? 


-- 
 John Henders      " Only _my_ words are relevant to the issue " 
  T.K.O.O.C.            <1992May11.073237.14684@rotag.mi.org>
                kevin@rotag.mi.org(Kevin "I'm not a net cop" Darcy)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: edik@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Ed Sternin)
Subject: Low-res mode emulator for hi-res ?
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:05:46 GMT


I am in need of a low-res mode emulator, I heard there used to be
one.  I have a Mega4+SM124, TOS 1.2, hard disk.  I bought a few
games that will not run except in the low-res mode.  Any way to
emulate the low-res mode (dither patterns, simply b/w, or even
using a portion of the screen) ?

I would appreciate a direct email to edik@brocku.ca, rarely find
the time to read this high-volume list. I will summarize, if
appropriate.

Thanks for your help.  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: thanatos@titan.ucc.umass.edu (MATTHEW D SCHMILL)
Subject: selling stuff
Summary: Atari 520STfm, GTS100 ext, VIDI-ST
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:23:27 GMT

Hey, I know you really want this stuff, so look at what I've got :

Atari520STFm.....base system, 1-2yrs old low useage, no problems 
  bunches of shareware/commercial software (100+ discs)
  paid $375....asking $225

VIDI ST 16 color greyscale video digitiser...full colour with
  VIDIChrome, 50 frames per secon ! paid $175....asking $80

GTS 100 external 3.5" drive. very quiet NEC mechanism. mech replaced
  by NEC ~1 year ago. has a digital LED track readout
  paid $175....asking $85

please respond via this net to ensure hasty communication
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: How do I cancel Dialing with Uniterm?
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:11:27 MDT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <1992Nov11.061101.11967@zooid.guild.org>, Mike Stramba <stramba@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>When I use the popup dialer (right mouse click) and select a number for
>Uniterm to dial, it dials ok, but how do I get it to STOP ?
>
>If the line is busy it just keeps going forever !!!
>
>I've pressed every #$@!#%^$#^$ key on the keyboard, and pressed both mouse
>buttons !
>
>I'm using version 2.0e
>

Well Mike I think it's ALT H...I'm sure it's on the help screen.

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: kslate@MtHolyoke.edu (Kevin D. Slate)
Subject: Re: How to convert .PI1 files to any IBM format??
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:47:43 GMT

	Degas's block save, saves in IFF or Seurat will save in several
formats including MacPaint, and PCX? (not sure on this one).



kevin
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: UMICH FTP not working ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:35:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Nov11.163537.28247
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls

In article <1dr3poINN22r@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>, trs@doc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas R Stiemerling) writes:
>I just tried to ftp something from the umich ftp archive. It would let
>me browse the directories, but when I tried to get something it said
>there was something wrong with the directory structure..

This is an example of a highly detailed trouble-call. NOT!

If you're going to post such 'requests for information', please be a bit more
specific with the details.  As an example:

"I just tried to FTP something from the atari.archive site.  I could browse
the New directory, but when I tried to get something from that directory it
gave the following error:

        'You are not authorized to get files from this directory'

How come?"

To which, of course, Jeff Weiner (and I, as surrogate in this particular
USENET newsgroup posting) would reply:

"Send me an e-mail message rather than attempting to get answers from a large
group of people who 

(a) don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about;

(b) don't have the access to answer your question if they DO know what
you are talking about;

(c) don't have the means to correct a problem in the first place."

-----------

Of course, there could be something wrong with the directory structure, but
without quoting the actual error message you received, and without information
about the file you were attempting to retreive and what directory you were
attempting to retrieve it from, your posting isn't going to get you the answers
you want.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jat@cch.coventry.ac.uk (STBW)
Subject: Mono Mon (was Re: late Falcons...)
Organization: ASHTRAY(Against Short Hair That Really Annoys You)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:33:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.132640.14986@crc.ac.uk> naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
>BTW I have tried to get a SM146 mono monitor from Evesham Micros (the only
>semi-Atari dealer here in Cambridge (UK) but they said that Atari hasn't 
>shipped any yet.

Yeah I've had an order with them for about 4 weeks now, and they still
claim they have no idea when the SM146 will actually reach them !

>Is this true or is it that only this shop hasn't got any?

Yes I would like to know too, I have lots of work lined up that really
needs a decent monitor, and if someone actually has them in stock I'd
be very willing to transfer my order!!!!

>(what's the difference between SM124,125,144,146 etc?)

Well from what I've managed to find out (thanks to all those that sent me
the information), 24&25 are the old 12inch monitors, I've used them before
and they're pritty good, the 144 is the later 14 (more like 13) inch monitor
with horizontal & vertical controls to allow you to fill the entire screen
area(no border), it has all controls at the frount. And the 146 is basicly
like the 144 but has been improved to get rid of some display flicker problem
that the 144 had, the horiz & vert controls are missing, but the factory
settings fill most of the screen area anyway. 

All of them have mono sound and the 144&146 have tilt&swivel bases (excellent!)
:-)

Hope that helps.


-- 
   \  /     "Me, the artist, has produced all this with my own imagination
   /\/\     and skill... Oi!! Yes, you at the back, stop laughing !"  8~}
 \/ -- \  <jat@uk.ac.cov.cch> is (Mirrir, Skippy, Jase, Slarts... Pick 1 :-)
From: knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org (Frank Bartels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: English Sagrotan????
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:03:32 GMT
Organization: Knarf's UUCP-Center, Munich, West-Germany
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:


>  Where may I find Sagrotan (what's the newest version) in english?
>Thanks!!!

As I know the newest version is the 4.17 and there will be no newer
version because it got a commercial product. I don't remember the new
name of it, but that doesn't matter because I think it's silly to sell a
commercial viruskiller.
I don't know if there is an english version of sagrotan.

I've heard something about sakrotan (instead of sagrotan). Does anybody
know more about it? What is your favourite Viruskiller? Did you ever
get a virus? I normally don't use disks and I never had problems. I
always boot from the same write protected disk.

>Jeoff Hines                                    c556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu

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+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Frank Bartels - knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org - Munich - West-Germany |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Re: C-lab gone under?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:24:28 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands

Reprinted From Z*NET 92-17:

 C-LAB FOLDS, EMAGIC TAKES OVER
 Internal company unrest and division has brought C-Lab, developers and
 manufacturers of the most successful Atari MIDI sequencing programs,
 Creator and Notator, to an end.  C-Lab products will be taken over by a
 new company formed by Ensoniq, the US distributors of C-Lab as well as a
 line of electronic hardware for the music industry.  EMAGIC will
 maintain support and development of the Atari platform, and includes
 some of the same people who were C-Lab.  Notator 3.1 was recently hailed
 in Keyboard magazine as the best MIDI sequencing program available for
 any computer.  Announcements from Ensoniq about Emagic include news of
 "Notator Logic" for the Macintosh, to be released before the end of
 1992.  Emagic joins Steinberg/Jones and Barefoot Software as the major
 remaining MIDI developers for Atari computers.  Barefoot formed from the
 Hybrid Arts takeover this summer, and Dr. T's stopped developing for the
 Atari in 1992.  Contact Emagic through Ensoniq Corp, attention David
 Netting, 155 Great Valley Parkway, Malvern, CT  19355, 213-647-3930,
 extension 297.
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
From: "Grupp , Andreas" <JG05@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Wanted: Statistics packages for the ST
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:52:25 GMT



> Hi Atari folks,
>
> a friend of mine is looking for good statistics packages for  his
> ST  computer.  Since the main use will be standard deviations and
> such, extreme  sophistication  is  not  necessary.  However,  the
> package  should  be  easy  to  use  and  have  possibilities  for
> producing graphical  output,  or  at  least  an  interface  to  a
> standard tool for this purpose, e.g. to spreadsheets.
> Of course, PD software is preferred, but pointers  to  commercial
> packages are also welcome.
>
> Thanx in advance
>
> Greetinx, Jan
>
>  +- Jan Kim -- X.400:    S=kim;OU=vax;O=mpiz-koeln;P=mpg;A=dbp;C=de -+
>  |             Internet: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de               |
>  |                                                                   |
>  *----=<  hierarchical systems are for files, not for humans  >=-----*

I would try OPUS. A shareware package with graphic part.
Available for german users per ftp in Stuttgart (rusmv1/129.69.1.12)
After some troubles with GDOS it works very fine.

Andreas
JG05@DKAUNI2.BITNET
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From: cs161fgp@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Adam Tilghman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: Atari 520STe & stuff for sale - $450
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:47:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.40592
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego



For Sale:

  Atari 520STe (8Mhz 68000, stereo sound, etc.)
  4MB RAM
  TOS 2.06 (latest version as of Sept.)
  DEKA unit - use an AT keyboard with the STe
  Atari SC1224 color monitor
  Assorted stuff:  STalker (excellent term program), lots
	of games, Magic Sac (the original Mac emulator w/ ROMs)
	Anything else Atari that I can cull up.

$450 will take everything - other offers will be entertained
    at my leisure :-)

  -- adam

Adam G. Tilghman - atilghma@ucsd.edu - Voice +1 619 622 1944
"Two birds killed with the same stone gather no moss."
From: jeff.molofee@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Jeff Molofee) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 68060
Date: 4 Nov 92 07:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: jeff.molofee@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Jeff Molofee) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

I saw an ad in ST Format for an accelerated 68030 running at 50mhz for
just over $1000 dollars.  It is for upgrading ST's... I think at $1000+
though, it is kind of rediculous.
                                                                               
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: kfason@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kevin Fason)
Subject: Looking for Hz generator
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:07:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I am looking for a ST program that will generate tones, like I give it a 
Certain Hz, and it'll play it through the sound.  Preferbly the STEreo 
hardware of the STE and up. thank, you, any help is appreciated.
-KF
\    /     /--
 \/\/hite /-ang

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: word on US falcons???
Summary: You heard me right, and the reason is obvious
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:54:19 GMT

In article <68916@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>Stephen Jacobs writes:
>
>>To the best of my
>>knowledge, the only official spokesman for Atari in public discussions is
>>Bob Brodie.
>
>Say what...??
> 
>You mean to tell us that if Lee Iacocca tells the world in a
>Press Conference that Chrysler will be bringing out a new model
>car in November that will get 200 mpg and cost $500, that it
>ISN'T an "official" announcement, and we have to wait for
>"Joe Nobody" in the Chrysler marketing department to give us
>the "real" scoop..?
> 
>I'm sorry... that's just B.S...
>
The reason high officers are essentially never official spokespeople is
that nobody controls them.  I hope you don't remember what company I work
for.....I can't tell you how many times our chairman has bragged in public
about new products which never got introduced.  Rank has its privileges, and
one of them is being allowed to mouth off.  The reason a statement Bob Brodie
makes as Atari's spokesman is believable is that his responsibilities include
checking the accuracy of his statements up and down the line.  My employer
makes most of its official announcements in advertising, but we also have
about 2 official spokespeople, and they check their statements VERY carefully
because that's what they're employed for.  

                                       Steve        saj@chinet.chi.il.us
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