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Newsgroups: comp.society
Subject: Re: Controversies about Computerized Work
From: momotaro@cwis.unomaha.edu (Bryan Stack)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:58:06 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

Rob Kling <kling@ics.uci.edu> writes:

> . . . By the early twentieth century, firms began to adopt
>telephones and typewriters, which were both invented in the late 10th
>century.

Begin :-) :
These played a pivotal role in the Norman conquest of England.
Among the cultural changes brought by the Normans was the introduction
of proofreading.
End :-).

No offense intended; I just couldn't resist.
Bryan Stack  (momotaro@cwis.unomaha.edu)
From: hussein@bora.inria.fr (Hussein Yahia)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Dance Music Samples
Keywords: Samples, Dance Music, SampleCell
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:07:54 GMT
Organization: Institut National de Recherche en Informatique et Automatique -- Rocquencourt, France





 Hi,


 I'm looking for dance music samples for my SampleCell sampler
card. Does anyone know an adress in the US or elsewhere where
they have such things either on CDRoms (i.e. pre-mapped as 
samplecell instruments) or on ordinary CDs ?


  Thankx,


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From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Music Computer News
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 03:50:15 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

There has been so much hype on this computer that I think it falls
under the, "Wait until it become reality" heading. $700? Maybe in
Germany. $1,700 here in the states... I would love it to come in at
$700 but the way the market is, that seems like an impossible price.
The other problem is software. I wanted to wait to get a digital
studio setup and get this Falcon, but I'm going to go Sound Tools
merely because it has a 3-4 year head start on the Falcon. Debugging
never ends, and it always is there...

Personally, I feel the Atari kicks the MAC's ass in MIDI sequencing
but not MIDI+DSP (ala Studio Vision), and so the second I see Sound Tools
ported on the Falcon for $700+software price, I'll drop my Mac in a
second...

<X>orcist

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Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth
From: pws@col.hp.com ()
Subject: Re: Help with FTP sites?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:29:14 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


I belive:

ftp.nevada.edu
ftp.ucsd.edu
and maybe the CICA machine...

-PWS
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From: thepsu@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Alec Flett)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Pink Floyd Sheet music needed...
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:56:33 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

I'm looking for any sheet music for any Pink Floyd music except for The Wall    and Dark side of the Moon. Please E-Mail thepsu@silver.lcs.mit.edu if you have  any information regarding such stuff...Thanks!

					Alec (Thepsu)
From: nl0242to@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Oscar van Eijk)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Looking for MusicTex for Vms
Keywords: MusicTex, Vms
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:32:29 GMT
Organization: Philips Centre For Technology, Eindhoven

Hi There,

I am looking for a Vms version of MusicTex. I know someone else asked
about MusicTex recently, but that can't help me. The problem is, I've
got no ftp access, so I'm looking for a mail-server that has this.

I already found musictex.tar (unix) and musictex.zip (dos), but the file
musictex.bck is not on mail-server@cs.ruu.nl where I found the other two.
Thanx in Advance,


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From: "gregory pleau" <gregory.pleau@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: ati stereo f/x card
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:44:49 EST
Reply-To: "gregory pleau" <gregory.pleau@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


I'm looking for any programming info (preferably in C or C++) to access
the ATI Stereo F/X audio card on the IBM PC , DOS platform.  It would
also be preferred that information be for programming >without<
Voyetra's MIDI drivers, as I am aiming to access digital samples in
stereo,, rather than Soundblaster compatibility.

It would be nice if someone has found a way to ram SoundBlaster PRO
instructions through the ATI card.

Thanks,

gregory.pleau@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: markb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Mark Bower)
Subject: Tascam MM1 Mixer
Originator: markb@sydrd14
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 05:19:23 GMT

Has anyone out in netland had experience with the Tascam MM-1 mixer.
It's 20 channel mixer with EQ, and it also allows paramters
to be stored via midi (e.g. Channel Mute etc). If anyone
has used one, has complaints, opinions, advice etc etc,
then I'd appreciate any info on this device.

Cheers,

Mark
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: lidz@quads.uchicago.edu (adam lidz)
Subject: CD-Rom and music
Reply-To: lidz@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:52:06 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a CD-Rom full of .MID files?  (Or any other MIDI
format?)  It doesn't matter if it plays through the CD-Rom or through a 
Roland Soundcard.  Any help is appreciated.
From: lclarke@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lee Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Call for ideas on new MIDI spec
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:41:19 GMT
Reply-To: lclarke@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lee Clarke)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


Look at some of the advances the major players in workstations
have made in the field of multimedia, such as IBM,  Next, SGI, to
name a few.

They integrate video, MIDI, sampled (digitized) audio, CD-ROM
into a multimedia environment. I believe AIFF-C sound file format
can be used by Sun, SGI, and Mac platforms.

You would probably want to see your spec take multimedia issues
into account, since multimedia will probably grow by leaps and bounds
over the next several years.

Hope that helps.

Lee Clarke
"opinions are my own"

lclarke@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: diarmuid@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Diarmuid Pigott)
Subject: Re: Why use a PC for Music?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:03:15 GMT

rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K. Wong) writes:
: 
: People go for GUI because they are pretty and easier to use.  But you still 
: need the control underneath it.   You don't want a SPARC station or a NeXT
: station with all these beautiful GUI without the power and control of UNIX.
: You don't want Windows or OS2's workshell without the command level.  But
: you can't get out of the Mac interface.  You get what you are given.  It's
: like giving you a beautiful house but you have no control over the pipes,
: the ground work....

Beautifully put. Exactly my point, thank you...
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Laptop MIDI interfaces
From: terr05@v9.vitro.com
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:35:20 -0500
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Nntp-Posting-User: terr05

In article <12137@ztivax.UUCP>, yip@ztivax.UUCP (Dr Yeung-Cho Ip) writes:
> rosensta@spade.rutgers.edu (Michael "Trott" Rosenstark) writes:
>> 
>> Does anyone out there know if there are any pc MIDI interfaces that
>> operate through the serial or parallel port of the host computer?
>> That way they could be used with a Laptop.
> 

There is a company in Texas which makes an item called the Midiator. It works
off of the serial port and I use it on my laptop Toshiba 1100. I found the
information in electronic musician.
						Jim
From: jpl@world.std.com (John P Lamar)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: MAX Concert in Boston at Berklee College of Music during MacWorld
Keywords: MAX, music, Berklee
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:21:15 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

**********Attention***********Attention********
 
There has been a small change in plan for the MAX Concert.
 
Resevations are not required!
 Seating will be first come first seated.
PLEASE DO NOT CALL BERKLEE
I repeat
PLEASE DO NOT CALL BERKLEE FOR RESEVATIONS OR TICKETS.
 
Do to a mis-communication the Music Synthesis Office is not set up
to handle reservations. Do not call them!
Just show up at the Concert.
 
Sorry for any inconvenience this might have caused.
 
John Lamar jpl@world.std.com
From: eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson)
Subject: Re: Automation music
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:00:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.173538.29677@jyu.fi> tola@jyu.fi (Teemu Olavi Lahteenmaki) writes:

> I believe it can be proofed that any note-sequences can be presented by the
> terms of automation (it may not be vice, but it can be done). So meaby by
> generating intellectually constructed automates, it would be possible to
> create any kind of music.
>
Assuming that what you are talking about is the construction of finite
automata, I don't believe that this will be particularly successful.
My reason for this is that, assuming that music is a language at all,
I doubt that it is a regular one.

> But again, much research has to be done before that can be archieved.
> Most of the music generated this way could be classified as 'repetitive music'
Yes, it could also be classified as "not particularly interesting."  I
think that systems that cannot take some global perspective into
account are doomed to compose wandering, non-thematically oriented,
non-correlated music.  Two examples are fractal music and Markov
chains.  In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think your
procedure can be simulated through Markov chains.  I may be wrong
about some of this.  These are just my initial impressions.

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From: rhyde@ucrmath.ucr.edu (randy hyde)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Why use a PC for Music?
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:56:24 GMT

In article <3842@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K. Wong)  
writes:
> People go for GUI because they are pretty and easier to use.  But you  
still 
> need the control underneath it.   You don't want a SPARC station or a  
NeXT
> station with all these beautiful GUI without the power and control of  
UNIX.
> You don't want Windows or OS2's workshell without the command level.   
But
> you can't get out of the Mac interface.  You get what you are given.  

Ever heard MPW??  It gives you the CLI you seem to be crying for...

> Anyone can use a Mac, but does that really make the Mac
> better?  

A lot of people sure think so!

I own several different computer systems including Macs and PCs.
I find that the set of applications I run on the two machines are
mutually exclusive.  If it runs on the Mac, I generally prefer that
software over that's available on the PC.  OTOH, programming the PC
is generally a much easier task than the Mac and it has more software
development tools than the Mac.
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: Why use a PC for Music?
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 92 15:42:24 GMT


In article <1415@grivel.une.edu.au> bscott3@metz.une.edu.au (Berenice
Scott) writes:
>
>Most _serious_ composers I know (that can't afford a fairlight) buy
>atari's.

May I quote a serious Fairlight user Boris Blank of Yello:

"Now I work with the Notator/Creator/Unitor on the Atari. Sometimes I
still use the sequencer page from the Fairlight, but usually I work
with more complex possibilities with the Unitor or Creator Notator. I
use the Fairlight for the sound editing and to do the multi-sampling -
it's still absolutely the best you can have. But most of the time I
use it just for a source of sound."


This is to say, that Fairlight is not the best *anymore*.
Also, I have heard this from other source, so there must be some truth
on this.

Hmm.. Synclavier could be better than Fairlight.


Juhana Kouhia
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: stevep@Cadence.COM (Steve Peterson)
Subject: Finale vs. Encore
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:41:19 GMT

Can anyone provide a reference to a review article that compares and/or
contrasts these two programs with any other comparible programs?  Perhaps
in Keyboard Magazine or Electronic Musician....

Thanks....

Steve Peterson
stevep@cadence.com

-- 
Best Regards......

Steve Peterson
From: yip@ztivax.UUCP (Dr Yeung-Cho Ip)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Laptop MIDI interfaces
Date: 15 Jul 92 05:46:29 GMT
Organization: Siemens AG, Munich, W-Germany

rosensta@spade.rutgers.edu (Michael "Trott" Rosenstark) writes:
> 
> Does anyone out there know if there are any pc MIDI interfaces that
> operate through the serial or parallel port of the host computer?
> That way they could be used with a Laptop.

The new Yamaha TG100 MIDI Expander has a so called "to host" port, which
is a serial port to which a PC can be connected. As I understand, the PC
is able to use the expanders MIDI interface this way.

However, this solution may be a little bit expensive.

Michael

Michael Franzen, michael@stack.zfe.siemens.de, Siemens AG, Munich
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia)
Subject: Re: HELP! Mac MIDI questions!!!
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:47:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.154854.22520@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> "Ms. Johanna Wise" <jmwise@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>
>ok....
>I will have a new Mac IIsi and a Kurtzweil EGP-K and Coda "Finale" .
>does ANYBODY know what kind of adaptor i have to get for my Mac??
>what about where I can get this adaptor???
>who i can call?? consult?
>

You'll need a midi interface which you can get anywhere synths and such are
sold. I'm surprised the dealer from whom you bought your other equiptment
didn't mention it. "MIDI for Musicians" by Craig Anderton is a pretty good
resource for learning MIDI, it's sort of out-dated in certain respects but
it is still a very sound basis for learning MIDI. It's written in a kind of
yahoo style that I find annoying but it doesn't seem to bother most people.
From: cjb+@pitt.edu (Christophe J Bogdon)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: DX7 Patch Librarian
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:56:02 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hello Networld!

     Is there any DX7 Patch librarian/editor availiable for the
Soundblaster Midi Adatper.  Everyone I've seen uses the MPU-401.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Chris


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From: mir@opera.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: .sng <-> .mid
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: mir@opera.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Organization: Chorus systemes, Saint Quentin en Yvelines, France

In article <1992Jul29.090255.28368@ugle.unit.no>, gautemyk@idt.unit.no (Gaute Myklebust) writes:

%% I am looking for a program to convert between .sng and .mid files.
%% 
%% Does anyone know a ftp site where I could find a program to do this bit 
%% of work for me.

The .sng extension is used by many music programs. You should
specify the one you think about.

-- 
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Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
From: cohen@cmu.unige.ch
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: DX11/TX81Z SysEx Commands ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:56:38 GMT
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

Does anybody know which SysEx commands are available
on the Yamaha DX-11 / TX81Z synth ?
I have tried to contact Yamaha in Japan, but they have
never answered ! (I wonder how they expect the users to make 
full use of their products then...).
Thanks,

Emmanuel Cohen-Laroque
University of Geneva, Switzerland
cohen@cmu.unige.ch
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: ucsd.edu FTP patches. Which format ?
From: cohen@cmu.unige.ch
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:12:41 +0200
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

I have found some patches for a TX81Z synth, that are GLIB librairies.
How can I upload them to the synth ?
Thanks in advance !
Emmanuel Cohen-Laroque
Univ. of Geneva
Switzerland
COHEN@CMU.UNIGE.CH

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: dcovell@intelhf.hf.intel.com (David Covell)
Subject: Re: MIDI Merge
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:16:37 GMT

feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke) writes:

>Does anyone know where I can get an inexpensive MIDI 2->1 merge box (or  
>bigger)?  Anatek is selling Pocket Merges for $100 apiece!  (We're talking  
>about $10-15 worth of parts here).

Perhaps, but you also pay for the code, which isn't as simple as you might
think. The merger must arbitrate the two inputs to decide which is more
time-critical. This is no easy task.   
I've seen them and Voyetra's box both advertised for about $85, also.

>Or:  does anyone have a schematic for a MIDI merge device?  Protoboards  
>aren't *that* bad,  ya know...  :)

I'm looking into building a MIDI processor for live work, and since merging
is one of the functions I'll implement, I'm interested in seeing how others
have done it. If you get some good responses, please forward them to me.
Thanks, and good luck.
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: smill@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Product-review group?!
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Distribution: ?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:29:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.022500.13078@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>I've been reading this group for a few months and it seems that
>the majority of the postings are either for sale notices or plug/reviews
>of various products. That's lame. Why don't people post discussions
>that pertain to computer applications to composition and/or analysis? Are
>there any composers out there? Theorists? Anybody actually compose
>computer/ electro-acoustic music out there ( I mean in the strictest 
>artistic sense, not like, you own a synth and are forming a band).
>  Are there people using Max who have any interesting ideas about
>how to construct fertile compositional algorithms? Any CSound, 
>CMusic users? I'd just like to see some new and more stimulating
>discourse besides "I just bought x-y-z software, how do I run it on
>a-b-c machine, is it better than p-q-r software?"
>


	Careful, you're getting into dangerous territory here.  I tried
to stear things (or at least nudge them) in that direction a while ago,
and met with heavy resistance from the "big guns". (Ouch, can you spell
FLAME???)  ;')

	In all seriousness, I heartily second that idea.  LET'S TALK ABOUT
MUSIC, ART, IDEAS, AESTHETICS...  or do computer-music composers even
think about those things???
-- 
Steven M. Miller		"The history of music evolution is
smill@polari.online.com		 not the history of nice guys"
smill@online.com			-- Anthony Braxton
smill%polari@online.com
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: rolfe@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher John Rolfe)
Subject: Re: What is this group for?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:04:16 GMT

miller@cs.rochester.edu (Brad Miller) writes:


>Not to be a weenie, but this group is looking more and more 
>like rec.music.synth every day. I thought it was about
>computer applications to music, not sales, looking for patches, etc.

	I'm in full agreement in regards not wanting to wade through platform-
specific/proprietary end-user traffic, but I suspect that's going even
farther than your complaint. 

	

Chris
rolfe@sfu.ca
From: fingerhu@ircam.fr (Michel Fingerhut)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: MAX Concert in Boston
Keywords: MAX, music, Berklee
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:04:56 GMT
Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France)

**** The Music Sythesis Department of Berklee College of Music Presents ****
 
				ALL MAX

                        A N  I N T E R A C T I V E  
 
          R E A L - T I M E  M U L T I M E D I A   C O N C E R T
 
 
             Featuring The MAX Development Group at Berklee 
              under the Direction of Dr. Richard Boulanger
                    
                        Special Guest Performers
                 *****David Zicarelli of Opcode Systems*****
               *****Neil Leonard of Mass College of Art******
                 
**Virtual Performance Instruments**
 
                           **DrumKat Controlled 3-D Graphics**
                               
**MIDI Glove Conducting & Editing**
 
                          **Interactive Fractal Music**
                            
**Synthentic Performing Agents**
                               
                                  **Acoustic Score Following**        
                                  
Experience the next generation of virtuoso performance.
 
Works by;
             John Benshop
            John Burkhardt
           Matthew Davidson
              Dan Keldsen
              John Lamar
 
**********************************************************************
* TWO SHOWS; 8 pm, Wendesday, August 5th & 8 pm, Thursday August 6th *  
**********************************************************************
 
          Berklee College of Music-Music Synthesis Recital Hall
                      22 The Fenway-Room F12
                      Boston, Massachusetts
  Adjacent to Boston Consevertory-Hynes/ICA subway stop on the Green Line
                     
If you are in Boston for MacWorld- Come over for a great musical experience.
Seating is limited-call for reservations. 617-266-1400 (Music Synthesis Dept.)
 
For more info: Email John Lamar (jpl@world.std.com)
Newsgroups: comp.music