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From: stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight)
Subject: Re: Would I be gammoned???
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:04:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.140257.9376@clark.dgim.doc.ca> dave@clark.dgim.doc.ca (Dave Thompson) writes:
>In article <1993Jan17.053532.15472@cunews.carleton.ca> wcstom@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Hamill) writes:
>>Interesting question arose this afternoon during a game on the server.
>>My opponent had her home table completely blocked, and still had 3
>>checkers in my home table.  I had borne off 6 checkers, was forced to
>>leave a blot, got hit(as I usually do of course), and couldn't get
>>back onto the board until she'd borne off 9.  I barely made it back to
>>my home table before she cleared hers and won the game.  And so we
>>wondered--would I have been gammoned(or backgammoned)if I hadn't made
>>it back home even though I'd already borne off checkers?

>>---tom

>I was taught that once you had borne off even one piece,you CANNOT be
>gammoned or backgammoned.

>Dave

I was taught a little different. Once you have borne off a piece you cannot
be gammoned. However, ANY time you were caught with a piece in your opponent's
back court when they remove their last piece---that is considered backgammon.
A local club I used to play at enforced this rule also. I never actually
checked to see if this was "offical" though.


Stan Knight

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From: arw@world.std.com (Anthony R Wuersch)
Subject: Re: Another X to play 5-2 situation......
Keywords: backgammon
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: rec.games.backgammon
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:00:43 GMT

>Here's a situation I had recently that had me befuddled.....

>     1  2  3  4  5  6        7  8  9 10 11 12
>   +------------------------------------------+ O: - score: 3
>   | X  O  O  O  O  O |   |                   |
>   | X  O  O  O  O  O |   |                   |
>   |       O  O  O    |   |                   |
>   |             O    |   |                   |
>   |                  |   |                   |
>   |                  |BAR|                   |v    5-point match
>   |                  |   |                   |
>   |                  |   |                   |
>   |                  |   |                   |
>   |    X  X  X     X |   |  X  X             |
>   | O  X  X  X     X |   |  X  X     X       |
>   +------------------------------------------+ X: - score: 0
>    24 23 22 21 20 19       18 17 16 15 14 13

>   BAR: O-0 X-0   OFF: O-0 X-0   Cube: 2 (owned by you)

>X to play 5-2.....I played 15-20 17-19 and got hit on 20, losing the game
>and match.  If I played 15-20 18-20, I still leave a point open.  Is there a
>better move here?

I vote with Igor for 17-22, 17-19.  Seven shots get out, four of the seven
allow another direct one or two shot.  O won't leave a blot next roll, so
the game doesn't hang on this one moment.

17-22, 17-19 keeps three builders on whichever point (20 or 24) O stays on.
15-22 leaves only two builders on the 24 point, so it's worse.

John Bazigos' 18-20, 15-20 makes O leave a blot on 4-5.  Not enough to
justify a direct shot.

Cheers,
toni

Toni Wuersch (arw@world.std.com)
-- 
Toni Wuersch
arw@world.std.com   {uunet,bu.edu,bloom-beacon}!world!arw
From: mdb@netcom.com (Mark Bisgeier)
Newsgroups: rec.games.backgammon
Subject: Re: Beginner needs help about double rule
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:50:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

m116180@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (M{{tt{ Arto) writes:


>X doubles, O accepts => that round and ALL ROUNDS AFTER THAT are doubled
>			until O doubles

No, if O accepts ONLY THAT GAME is affected. (If O accepts and later
redoubles, if X accepts the game is now redoubled, etc., but again only that
game is affected.) 

>X doubles, O rejects => X wins and gets one point.
>			Rounds after that are played as
>			normal until O doubles (X cannot double).
>			When O doubles points are multiplied only by 2
>			not 4 (assuming that Xs doubling was the first
>			one).

No, if O rejects X wins one point (assuming the X only doubled (i.e., hadn't
REdoubled after having accepted a previous double from O in that game) - but
as for subsequent games, there is NO further restriction on either player
doubling (excluding certain situations in money games which don't
apply to the beginner). If O doubles in a subsequent game, and it is the
first double of that game, the points will be multiplied by 2 and not 4,
since each game is INDEPENDENT of other games as far as doubling is
concerned.

-- 

                      """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
                       Mark Bisgeier   mdb@netcom.com
                        "Imagine the possibilities!"

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From: JOHNSSON@SARA.CC.UTU.FI (Mika Johnsson)
Newsgroups: rec.games.backgammon
Subject: Test message (ignore)
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:47:00 GMT
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From: peterh@tdb.uu.se (Peter Haegglund)
Subject: Re: Another X to play 5-2 situation......
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
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Distribution: rec.games.backgammon
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:38:28 GMT

 Mark Damish (damish@ll.mit.edu) wrote:
: 
: The cube is in an 'unusual' state as this position is posted!
: 
: Your oppenent is ahead 3-0 in a 5 point match and has offered a double
: which has been accepted. I Think that the immediate response after deciding
: to accept the double, is to throw it right back at him!

If there are no stakes there is no question about it. If you lose, you 
lose the match anyway. If you win, well,
tough luck for your opponent. If you play for big money/diff pts, then there
are other considerations, of course.

: 
: This raises a question for me: If I am 2 points away from winning a match
: and my oppenent has few points and is expected to redouble immediatly,
: under what conditions should I throw the initial double, if any?

I would be very careful. You have to be THE favourite when/if you double.
Not only you have the risk of losing 4 pts., but you also have the added
risk of losing a gammon. If the opponent accepts, you're 100% sure 
he/she will redouble. It's standard procedure.


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Dept. of Scientific Computing      opinions. Don't blame the dept.
Uppsala University
Sweden
From: m116180@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (M{{tt{ Arto)
Newsgroups: rec.games.backgammon
Subject: Thanks!! (Re: Beginner needs help about double rule)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:05:30 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cc.tut.fi

Thanks to all who answered my question about doubling!!
It is clear to me now.

--
| Arto Maatta     m116180@cc.tut.fi |				              |
| Orivedenkatu 8 D 86		    | 			"YES!"                |
| 33720  TAMPERE     		    |                -DelMonte Man 	      |
|      FINLAND 			    |					      |
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From: ghp@hyatt.com (Gregg Palmer)
Subject: Tournaments???
Organization: Hyatt Technical Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:31:38 GMT

 Does anyone out there ever play backgammon in tournaments? I know they 've beengiven bad raps from pro gammoners, but it seems like an interesting pursuit. I've only been to one, held at a local hotel. There were about three or four
hundred players there.
 What sort of experiences have you had? Let me know.

			Gregg Palmer
			Hyatt Technical
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From: am49469@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Mesin )
Subject: Gammon for PC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:35:20 GMT

I found a what I think is a backgammon game for a pc in wuarchive.wustl.edu

in  /mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/msdos/games/board 

called pcgammon.arc

I can't seem to unzip it though.  If anyone know how to do it, or has the
game somewhere, could you post something here or E-mail me?

thanks in advance.
 
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: weasel@fenris.claremont.edu (weasel)
Subject: Monopoly Trivia Question Of Doom!
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:28:33 GMT

Hi all!

I have a question, and I thought you guys might be the best ones to ask
about it...

I have a friend who loves Monopoly more than life itself.  About 8 years
ago, he read an article in a magazine on an overseas airline flight that
detailed the results of a guy writing a program which calculated the odds 
of about everything in the game.  Anyway, needless to say, he lost the 
article ;-)
He will probably give his soul to anyone who can discover what the article
is, and in fact, may well be willing to pay for hardcopy.  So I post this
message to you in hopes that someone out there may know of this...

Happy thinking!

-kal
weasel@fenris.claremont.edu (preferred)
shobaki@cse.ogi.edu (if you can't get to 'weasel')

PS...please e-mail any response, as i don't get too read too much net-news.

Thanksa million!
From: lightnin@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Reality's Comic Relief)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Lizzie and Lightnin's etc... Correction
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:38:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

I'd like to apologize for the error in the quiz.  In the bonus
question, the correct quotation should read:

O say can you see, my eyes?
If you can, then my hair's too short.


Many thanks to everyone out there who pointed out this error.  

-lightnin
From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu (*R*A*I*)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Murder Quiz Ans/Scores
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:46:48 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

TOP SCORES
1ST
dms!picard!ves@netcom.com		15
2ND
hammond@css.itd.umich.edu		14

	
			Murder Quiz

1. In "From the Hip" what was Lisa Willimas killed with.
A HAMMER
2. In "Dead Again" what was the murder weapon?
SCISSORS
3. Cleopatra was killed by a(n) ___________.
AN ASP
4. In "Reversal of Fortune" Claus Von Bulow (sp?) was accused of atemped murder
using this
drug.
ISULIN
5. In  "The Hobbit" Smog (the dragon) was killed by a(n) _________________.
BLACK ARROW
6. In the first "Terminator" movie the Terminator was killed in a(n)
_________________.
HYDROLIC PRESS
7. In "Basic Instict" the murder weapon was a(n) __________________.
ICE PICK
8. In "Return of the Jedi" Jabba is killed by (what method) __________________.
STRANGULATION
9. In "Pet Semetary" Gabe and the cat are killed by a(n) __________________.
TRUCK
10. In "Heathers" the Heather(No. 1) was killed by (what
method)_____________________.
POISON
11. In "Terminator 2" the T-1000 was killed how?
MELTED IN MOLTON STEEL
12. In "Who Framed Rodger Rabbit" Rodger was accused of killing Marvin Acme by
(How?)________________.
DROPING A SAFE ON  HIS HEAD
13. In "Weekend at Bernie's" Bernie was killed how?
INJECTED WITH NARCOTICS
A Classics:
14. In "The Wizard of OZ" the Wicked Witch of the East was killed
how____________________.
DOROTHY'S HOUSE FELL ON HER
15. In "The Wizard of OZ" the Wicked Witch of the West was killed how
___________________.
WATER
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you show, Sometimes you think you're gonna 
get it, But you don't and that's just the
way it goes."  _George Michael_              MCSWEINBERG@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU
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Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (C. K. Powell)
Subject: Re: Where do they get mercury from?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:39:28 GMT

ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  writes:
> 
> I'm too lazy to go to the library, and I hope someone out there can assist.
> 
> 	Where do they get liquid mercury from?  Where on earth does it 
> 	naturally exist and how?
> 
Well, this is without going to the library, so I may be slightly
wrong:

Liquid mercury is redundant--mercury is liquid (the only metal
that is liquid at normal temperatures).  Maybe you were trying to
avoid confusion with the planet Mercury? :)

Mercury does not, however, come from Mercury.  It occurs
naturally right here on Earth, as you suspected.  I think it's an
ore of cinnabar.  Or maybe cinnabar is the ore.

Sorry not to be too helpful.  Maybe you should go to the library
after all.

Chris
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: curtw@euler.jsc.nasa.gov (Curt Wiederhoeft)
Subject: Vincent Sartor's trivia quiz
Followup-To: rec.games.trivia
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co., Houston
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:25:13 GMT

Please pardon the posting, but I was unable to send mail to Vincent in 
response to his trivia quiz. I guess that takes me out of contention
unless there's another address. Vincent? Are you out there?

Curt Wiederhoeft

curtw@euler.jsc.nasa.gov              Norway's greatest acrobatic dwarf.
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: Where do they get mercury from?
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:45:43 GMT

David Edward Nangle (nangld@aix.rpi.edu) writes:
>Yes, but mercury and bromine are the only two elements that are liquid at
>room temperature, and standard atmospheric pressure

Well, depends on how warm your room is. :-) If memory serves gallium 
melts at 29 C. The alchalic metals has a falling meltining point with 
increasing number of electrons. Natrium melts at 98 C, whereas rubidium
has a melting point around 30 I believe, which would indicate that if
you isolate a suffiecient amount of francium in room temperature, it
might be a liquid. But since francium is strongly radioactive and not
stable enough, I don't think its melting point is known.



-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: tsolis@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: RE: TRIVIA BUSTERS (THE ANSWERS)
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:17:48 GMT
Organization: Clark University

I would guess that the Spin Docters played their first gigs at Univ. of
Rochester.  Just a guess but it might be right.  I know they're from New York
and they frequent Rochester now so give it a try.
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia,nlnet.misc
From: a3@rivm.nl (Adri Verhoef)
Subject: Filmquiz -- "Known phrases, sentences to remember"
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:06:59 GMT

This quiz was the idea of my colleague Nils.

The purpose of this quiz is to name the movie to which each quote belongs.
You'll receive 5 points for each correct answer.

Send your answers via E-mail to a3@rivm.nl before February 13th, 1993.

DON'T POST YOUR ANSWERS TO THE NEWSGROUP...

Good luck!

 1.  "I can't afford a four-door Ford"

 2.  "Fuck You Merrim!"

 3.  "Ditto!"

 4.  "It's logic"

 5.  "Is she worth dying for?"
BONUS (for 3 points) : Who's "she"?

 6.  "Play Salieri!"
BONUS (for 3 points) : Who'd asked "Play Salieri"?

 7.  "A message! Not a massage!"

 8.  "Hasta la Vista babe!"

 9.  "Mariaa!"

10. "Don't call me chicken!"

Ten questions, that's all, and remember,
DON'T POST YOUR ANSWERS TO THE NEWSGROUP...

Adri.Verhoef@rivm.nl
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: nittmo@camelot.bradley.edu (Christopher Taylor)
Subject: TRIVIA BUSTERS
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:49:42 GMT

The answer to who sang the National Anthem at the first game of the World
Series is Billy Ray Cyrus.  I don't know who did the Canadian anthem the
first game, but it wasn't Tom Cochrane (that was game 2 and he botched the
words the same night the Marines botched the Canadian flag). 

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From: madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster)
Subject: Re: TRIVIA BUSTERS (THE ANSWERS)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:23:22 GMT

I want to say it was Jon Secada who sang the first game's national anthem, 
but I could be wrong...

--
Felix "The Gangster of Love" Madera 		 madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
============================================================================
"I'm out."	   		-	 		Kramer	(Seinfeld)
				
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: cauchbri@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Buffalo Bruce)
Subject: Re: Trivia Busters (SPOILERS)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:05:17 GMT


Someone posted that the smurf caught always looking in the mirror was 
Smurfette.  Actually, I think his name was Vanity.

Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: cs3sd3ae@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Holly       KS)
Subject: Flintstones
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:41:09 GMT

Big kudos too all those that replied to my question about what planet the
Great Gazoo came from.

The answer is the planet Xetox

Kevin
From: mw4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Weinstock)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: ANSWERS - mark's music quiz
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:48:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfNgfZm00iUz44Dl8Q
	<ano.728061641@reading>
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 26-Jan-93 in Re: ANSWERS - mark's music ..
user Adrian Ogden@csug3.cs.re writes:
>mw4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Weinstock) writes:
> 
> 
>>7. "You're not sure what you want to do with your life,
>>       But you sure don't want me in it."
>> 
>>Heart/What About Love?
> 
>Wrong! This is from "Who will you run to?"
> 
>If (as I now assume, having seen the answers) the theme was
>"songs with a question for the title" it still fits.
> 
> 
><<  Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- ano@csres.cs.rdg.ac.uk  >>

OK, you got me. I posted the solutions from memory late at night, and
the only song that came to mind from Heart that was a question was "What
About Love?"

Give yourself and everyone an extra 10 points.


-Mark Weinstock  mw4j@andrew.cmu.edu

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them, but I wrote them. Ok, so I stole them, but you'll never prove
it....

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From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: TRIVIA BUSTERS (THE ANSWERS)
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:04:35 GMT
 <1993Jan27.111511.21320@bcrka451.bnr.ca>  
 <1993Jan27.223939.29651@walter.bellcore.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1993Jan27.223939.29651@walter.bellcore.com>
anish@ctt.bellcore.com (Anish Bhimani) writes:

> In article <1993Jan27.111511.21320@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson) writes:
> |> In article <1993Jan27.012723.26048@news.cs.indiana.edu> ssowder <ssowder@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
> |> >	Q3: Who sang the national anthem on the first night of last Ocotber's
> |> >		world series?
> |> >Rosanne Barr
> |> Are you *positive* about this one?  I'm not so sure.  I don't know who did,
> |> but Rosanne just doesn't seem right.  And, if you want to include extra
> |> information, you could tell him that Tom Cochrane sang the Canadian national
> |> anthem and the Marines flew our flag upside-down.  Heck, the way the question
> |> is worded, Cochrane is a correct response (then again, so is "50 000 people
> |> at Atlanta Fulton County Stadium"...
> |> 
> 
> Actually, I didn't think Roseanne sounded right either. The famous "crotch-grabbing" incident occurred nearly two months earlier in a game at San Diego's Jack Murphy stadium. I'm not sure who sang the anthem either, but it was definitely Tom Cochranw
> o sang the Canadian anthem with the flag flying upside down. 

Actually, it wasn't this past summer that it happened -- I believe it
was the summer of '90, because I seem to remember driving to Dartmouth
the next day, and I wasn't at Dartmouth at all the summer of '91.


--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."
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From: chow@edc.mast.queensu.ca (Ed Chow)
Subject: Who is Caskie Stinnett?
Reply-To: chow@edc.mast.queensu.ca
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:27:27 GMT

Help me out here, folks!  Here's a quote attributed to Caskie Stinnett:

  "A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in
  such a way that you actually look forward to the trip."

1.  Who is Caskie Stinnett?
2.  Has this quote been attributed to anyone else?  References, please.

-Ed
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