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From: eerke@sci.kun.nl (Eerke Boiten)
Subject: CHART: Dutch Singles
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Originator: recmusic@galaxy
Reply-To: eerke@sci.kun.nl
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:36:04 GMT

Dutch Top 10 (singles) 1-8-1992

1	1	I'LL BE THERE - mariah carey
2	4	POING - rotterdam termination source (NL)
3	5	IT'S MY LIFE - dr alban
4	2	KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR - guns n' roses
5	3	ON A RAGGA TIP - sl 2
6	9	SEXY MF - prince and the new power generation
7	8	ABBA ESQUE - erasure
8	6	DON'T YOU WORRY 'BOUT A THING - incognito
9	13	THIS USED TO BE MY PLAYGROUND - madonna
10	12	LIBERA L'ANIMA - jovanotti
--- movers up in the rest of the top 40 ---
11	21	STEPPIN' OUT TONIGHT - beckie bell
12	15	INSTANT KARMA - john lennon
14	26	IT'S PROBABLY ME - sting with eric clapton
15	17	WHO IS IT - michael jackson
16	32	JESUS HE KNOWS ME - genesis
20	36	WE ALL NEED LOVE - double you
24	--	LITHIUM - nirvana
25	--	HOW DO YOU DO! - roxette
27	-R	BARCELONA - freddie mercury & m. caballe
28	34	THE BEST THINGS - vandross & jackson
29	33	57 CHANNELS - bruce springsteen
31	--	JUST ANOTHER DAY - john secada
34	--	ACHY BREAKY HEART - billy ray cyrus
39	--	LIEFDE VOOR HET LEVEN - bennie neyman (NL)
-- Comments --
NL = Dutch production; B = Belgian production
-- Expected in chart soon: --
OOCHIE COOCHIE - mc brains, HEAVEN SENT - inxs, WARM IT UP - kris kross,
FIESTA - banda blanca, TENNESSEE - arrested development,
AMIGOS PARA .. - j. carreras & s. brightman, L.S.I. - shamen,
WIJ ZIJN DE JONGENS .. - bertus staigerpaip (NL)
--
Eerke Boiten (eerke@cs.kun.nl)
Dept. of Informatics (STOP Project)
University of Nijmegen, NL

Newsgroups: rec.music.info
From: opus@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Lisa Goldstein)
Subject: CONCERT: Concert schedule for Hypnotic Clambake [USA]
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Originator: recmusic@galaxy
Reply-To: opus@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:15:44 GMT


Hypnotic Clambake is a klezmer-reggae-cajun-rock band that has been
getting airplay and a loyal following in the Boston area. They play
music that both deadheads and your mother would love. Their music is
lyrical, funny, hopping, and you can even understand the words when
they sing! They are also great to watch. The lead vocalist and
accordianist seems to be having a great time up there, the violinist
and clarinetist are technically amazing, and the lead guitarist looks
like a refugee from a punk rock band.

This is their summer tour scedule as gotten from the band leader,
Maury Rosenberg. However you should always call before going to
confirm times, etc. 


Day     Date    Time    Club                    City
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sun	July 26	10pm	B. J.'s			Freedonia, NY

Tues	July 28	8pm	Shank Hall        	Milwaukee, WI

Wed	July 29 10pm	Biddy Mulligan's 	Chicago, IL

Tues	July 30 7pm     Lucas County Fair	Toledo, OH

Fri	July 31 10pm	Calumet Arts Cafe	Buffalo, NY

Sat	Aug 1 10pm	Calumet Arts Cafe	Buffalo, NY

Sun	Aug 2 8pm	The Curve		Buffalo, NY

Tues	Aug 4 8pm	Beer Mug 		Erie, PA

Wed	Aug 5 10pm      Hicky Tower		Aleghany, NY

Thurs	Aug 6 10pm	The Nines		Ithaca, NY


Newsgroups: rec.music.info
From: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au (Robert Pearson)
Subject: CHART: Australian Top 20 Singles
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Originator: recmusic@galaxy
Reply-To: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:33:27 GMT

        Australian Top 20 Singles - Week Ending 26 July 1992
as compiled by ARIA ( The Australian Record Industry Association Ltd.)
                (* denotes bullet performer)
              (AUS denotes Australian performer)
              (NZ denotes New Zealand performer)               
                  (p denotes platinum status)
                    (g denotes gold status)

   TW   LW   TI      Title/Artist
   --   --   --      ------------
    1    2   10      Hazard - Richard Marx       
    2    1   10      Save The Best For Last - Vanessa Williams (g)   
*   3    6    4      Please Don't Go - K.W.S.   
    4    3    9      Jump - Kris Kross (g)     
*   5   25    2      Sexy M.F. - Prince   
    6    4    6      Too Funky - George Michael  
    7    5    9      Cry - Lisa Edwards (AUS)     
    8   11   10      As Ugly As They Wanna Be - Ugly Kid Joe    
    9    8    4      Heaven Knows - Rick Price (AUS)     
   10   12    7      Damn, I Wish I Was Your Lover - Sophie B. Hawkins   
*  11   NEW          Jam - Michael Jackson
   12    9    9      I Can Feel It - Radio Freedom (AUS)      
*  13   50    2      This Used To Be My Playground - Madonna   
   14    7   13      Ordinary Angels (Clunk EP) - Frente (AUS) (g)     
   15   15    4      Abba-esque (EP) - Erasure
   16   14    3      Even Better Than The Real Thing - U2     
   17   18    6      Beauty And The Beast - Celine Dion and Peabo Bryson   
   18   13   14      That Word (L.O.V.E.) - Rockmelons (AUS) (g)     
   19   10   14      Take It From Me - Girlfriend (AUS) (g)          
   20   22    7      God Gave Rock N' Roll To You - Kiss  

Big Movers
--- ------                                   
   24   30    4      I'll Be There - Mariah Carey
*  26   NEW          Rhythm Is A Dancer - Snap
*  28   42    2      I Can't Help Myself - Teen Queens (AUS)
*  32   NEW          Warm It Up - Kris Kross
*  33   NEW          Girl's Life - Girlfriend (AUS)
   37   46    3      Workaholic - 2 Unlimited
*  40   NEW          Life Is A Highway - Tom Cochrane
   43   NEW          Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg - T.L.C.
   44   NEW          Knockin' On Heaven's Door - Guns n' Roses
*  46   NEW          Everything's Alright - John Farnham, Kate Ceberano and
                                            Jon Stevens (AUS)
*  49   NEW          Four Seasons In One Day - Crowded House (AUS/NZ)
   50   NEW          My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It) - En Vogue

Predictions
-----------                                                          
                     Deeply Dippy - Right Said Fred
                     Lithium - Nirvana
                     Walk The Dinosaur - The Tin Lids (AUS)
                     Pretend We're Dead - L7
                     Gonna Get High - The Dukes

Newsgroups: rec.music.info
From: rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro)
Subject: MAILINGLIST: MOODY BLUES MAILING LIST FORMED
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Originator: recmusic@galaxy
Reply-To: rlcarr@athena.mit.edu
Organization: Digitopolitan Embassy to the US
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:33:11 GMT

I am pleased to announce the creation of a (unmoderated) Moody Blues
mailing list.  The addresses:

lost-chords@athena.mit.edu -- the actual list
lost-chords-request@athena.mit.edu -- where requests to be added, removed, and
                                      other such admin-type things should be
                                      sent

I figure that once things get rolling, if the list desires to switch to
a moderated form (a la the Jethro Tull list), that can be done at the list's
discretion.  But for now, I just want to get this moving.

Looking forward to hearing from you!



--
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Newsgroups: rec.music.info
From: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au (Robert Pearson)
Subject: CHART: Australian Top 20 Albums
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Originator: recmusic@galaxy
Reply-To: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:32:59 GMT

        Australian Top 20 Albums - Week Ending 26 July 1992
as compiled by ARIA ( The Australian Record Industry Association Ltd.)
                (* denotes bullet performer)
              (AUS denotes Australian performer)
              (NZ denotes New Zealand performer)
                  (p denotes platinum status)
                    (g denotes gold status)  

   TW   LW   TI      Title/Artist
   --   --   --      ------------
    1    1    6      Back To Front - Lionel Richie (p)     
    2    2   13      Greatest Hits - ZZ Top (p)     
*   3   NEW          Heaven Knows - Rick Price (AUS) 
    4    3    4      The One - Elton John    
    5    4    3      Angel Dust - Faith No More    
*   6   20    3      My Girl (Movie Soundtrack)      
    7   10   16      Adrenalize - Def Leppard (p)     
    8    8   27      The Tribal Voice Album - Yothu Yindi (AUS) (p)      
*   9   21   35      We Can't Dance - Genesis (p)
   10    7    6      Totally Krossed Out - Kris Kross    
   11   11    3      Unplugged - Mariah Carey
   12    6   35      Blood Sugar Sex Magik - Red Hot Chili Peppers (pp)    
   13   17    5      Rush Street - Richard Marx        
   14   13   20      Hepfidelity - Diesel (AUS) (pp)            
   15    5   21      Michael Crawford Performs Andrew Lloyd Webber 
                           - Michael Crawford (p)
   16   15   12      This Road - James Blundell (AUS) (p)       
*  17   27    2      Wayne's World (Movie Soundtrack)
   18   12   10      From Time To Time - Paul Young (g)      
   19   23    4      Beauty And The Beast (Movie Soundtrack)   
   20   16   35      Dangerous - Michael Jackson (ppppp)  

Big Movers
--- ------
*  25   37    8      Get Ready - 2 Unlimited
*  28   40   12      Diva - Annie Lennox (g)
*  39   NEW          Up - Right Said Fred
   42   48    6      Night Calls - Joe Cocker
   49   R/E          The Very Best Of Elton John - Elton John (pppp)
   50   NEW          Tongues And Tails - Sophie B. Hawkins

Compilations
------------
    1    2    4      Can't Beat The Music Vol. 2 - Various (g)   
    2    1   10      100% Hits Volume 4 - Various (pp)   
    3   NEW          The Rebirth Of Cool - Various    
    4    3    7      Rhythm & Soul - Various      
    5   R/E          100% Hits '92 - Various (p)

Predictions 
-----------                                     
                     No Fences - Garth Brooks
                     Honey Lingers - Voice Of The Beehive
                     Beth Nielsen Chapman - Beth Nielsen Chapman
                     Phantom Unmasked - Michael Crawford
                     Sense - The Lightning Seeds
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Where is best place to buy Steadicam JR?
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:01:48 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

Subject line says it.  Please respond via email.
Thanks in advance.


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========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Edit Switch on Sony VCR's and Camcorders
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:25:07 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


>>I have a SLV-686 HF VCR and a Fuji H80 camcorder (TR-81 clone) and they both
>>have edit switches.  The manuals for both say that the switch should be turned
>>on when editing but they really do not go into any detail about the purpose
>>of the switch.  The manuals seem to imply that using the edit switch improves
>>the quality of the edited tape.  Does anyone know if this is true and how it
>>works?  (I'm about to edit my first tape and this puzzled me.)
>> 

My own experience is that when you edit with the edit switch on, the
resulting pictures quality tend to be "softer" while not having it
on make the picture sharper, with a more visible white outline.
The best way is to experience with it yourself and see the difference.


Brandon
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" It's up to YOU... "  - Kevin Costner as Jim Garrison, "JFK"
From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Image jerkiness, NBC Olympics, etc
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:05:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Jul29.201500.4621@tc.fluke.COM>, snojob@tc.fluke.COM (Dan Wright) writes:
> 
> I noticed a similar jerky image last Sunday watching CBS's NASCAR
> coverage from Talladega.  Their "speed shot" camera is mounted low
> on the track looking straight down the back stretch.  When the cars
> approach the camera they go by in a hell of a hurry.  As they exited
> the right side of the screen I noticed something other than just fast,
> blurry images, almost like there was some animation effect in play.  I
> know that wasn't it, but it was definitely something I hadn't seen
> before from the "speed shot."  in other races.
> 
> I don't pretend to know what caused it.  I'll let the rest of the net
> argue about it.
> 
> Dan Wright
> snojob@fluke.tc.

I didn't see that particular race, but I suspect a high speed shutter is being
used to give better stop action replays.  I have a Sony CDV-99 with a 1/10,000
shutter.  It's great for freezing action - shot a race at Laguna Seca a couple
of years ago with some 1/10,000 segments.  Even the wheel spokes on CART cars
going 160MPH are sharp!  But when viewed a full speed, there is a wierd stop
action appearance.  I only recommend these high speeds when you know you want
to view something a frame at a time - like my golf swing (har har har).

Ed Oates (my opinions,not Oracle's)
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Help 75ohm to RCA...
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:06:08 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul28.194954.23289@uceng.UC.EDU> rabagley@uceng.UC.EDU (Ross A Bagley) writes:
<I need a converter (cheap) from the 75ohm cable of cable to the RCA video/audio
<inputs on the Sony 8mm Watchman.  The watchman is not the Hi-Fi version, so
<stereo is not essential, though might be useful in the future.  Having the
<other cenversion (RCA video/mono sound to 75ohm) would be great too.

Go to your local Radio Shack and look through their wide variety of adapters.
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From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Building a Hi8 compatible system
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:36:15 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

[Original posting deleted - described wish to edit from hi8 camcorder
to another format.  Camcorder is Sony TR-101 clone.]

The Sony hi8 camcorders and VCRs haave an interface called Control-L
or LANC; stands for "local application control code."  It is a serial
digital interface that allow machines to talk to each other.  Only drawback
is that it does not pass frame position info, so edits will only be
accurate to the nearest second - +/- 15 frames.  (Control -L can also
be used for some nifty camera remotes, since it talks zoom and focus
too.)

I recommend an SVHS vcr for editing.  If yyou get the sony SLRV5, then
you can hook the camcorder and eck together via control L for sychro
editing, or put one of their controllers in between.  You can also buy
the Future Video controller (500-800 bucks) and talk to either a sony
or Pansonic VCR, such as the AG-1960.  Some of their contollers allow
for time code use of frame interpolation to improve the accuracy.
You can edit directly to hi8 using the Sony EVS-3000.
   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
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========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: WANTED: Dead VCR
Keywords: Broken VCR
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:19:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

aaronb@suhana.analog.ingr.com (Aaron B.) writes:
>I need a VHF tuner for my project.  Someone suggested me salvaging it
>from a broken VCR.  Anybody that have such a thing or know of how to
>get them please respond by e-mail.  Any other suggestions are welcome too.
*----
Try your local TV service shop.  Around here, $ 15 is a typical
price for a broken VCR with working tuner, and it's a cheap way
to get a cable converter.  Remote control may be extra.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: D3 video
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 28 Jul 1992 15:28 EST  

I'm curious: what is D3?  I'm familiar with the D1 and D2 formats.  Is this 
system based on MII?  What distinguishes it from the other two formats?

Just like to be informed....

Greg
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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: PRoposal to split up rec.video
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:23:55 GMT

In article <5XXRoB3w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>
>This seems to get a lot of publishing volume rec.video, and many of the
>articles could take on life in a whole forum of their own.
>
>Proposal to be debated:
>
>  Be It Resolved That  rec.video be split up into
>     a) rec.video.hdtv
>     b) rec.video.laser-disc
>     c) rec.video.vcr
>     d) rec.video.technology
>     e) rec.video.television
>     f) rec.video.movie
>      and the creation of other relevant groups
>
>     and remove rec.video?

Opposed.  Volume is not so high that scanning of the subjects is 
impossible every few days (compare this to rec.arts.movies!).

There is also the problem that it takes some sites/persons a long time
to get used to new newsgroups.  When they are closely related there is
a lot of cross-posting to be sure everyone sees a post or mis-posting.
This is still a frequent problem with 'rec.video.releases' - at least
I see postings in rec.video that properly should be in rec.video.releases.
It would get maddening if rec.video were any further subdivided at this
time.



-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Is This Laser Rot?
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:56:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <BrwACr.1tJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes...

} I just picked up an older used LD from ca. 1981. When I play the disc,
} the picture has colored snow all throughout the side (it's CLV, one
} sided).  [...]  Is this what Laser Rot looks like?

Yes.

-- 

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	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

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    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: PRoposal to split up rec.video
Date: 31 Jul 1992 19:10:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hernes-sun

In article <5XXRoB3w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

>This seems to get a lot of publishing volume rec.video, and many of the
>articles could take on life in a whole forum of their own.

>Proposal to be debated:

>  Be It Resolved That  rec.video be split up into
>     a) rec.video.hdtv
>     b) rec.video.laser-disc
>     c) rec.video.vcr
>     d) rec.video.technology
>     e) rec.video.television
>     f) rec.video.movie
>      and the creation of other relevant groups

>     and remove rec.video?

>Someone else if they would like, or would want to expand on the resolution
>should call the debate and the votes.

>Takers? opinions? nuke?

I don't feel that this is necessary. If the group had more volume
then it would be different. As is, I use my killfile to delete the
material I'm not interested in, but I do like to see an assortment of
other subjects beyond the one topic I'm most interested in.

Eric
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jhodges@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Jack Hodges)
Subject: Digital effects mixer/editor experience needed
Originator: jhodges@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:32:30 GMT

I am looking around for a digital effects mixer/editor. I
am green at the mixer business and have been suffering with
one deck until recently and now a second deck (sony SLVR5 and
sony SLV696 and sony CCDV101). I cannot do neat scene fades,
and I cannot do anything nifty like wipes. Sound recording
sucks. I have some information on the panasonic line of
digital editors (the WJ-AVE10, the WJ-MX12 and the WJ-MX50).
I have no idea what they cost, but the last one is starting
to look like a nice machine.

If anyone out there has the patience to educate me on mixers
and controllers before I make a fool of myself I would
greatly appreciated the assistance. If anyone knows of places
that sell this kind of equipment for less than the extremities
I currently have, that would also be helpful. Thanks for
any and all...

Jack Hodges,
San Francisco State University
<hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest)
Subject: Yet another L1 question
Organization: Houston Public Access UNIX
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:02:21 GMT

 
 I've recently decided to purchase a Canon L1 after reading up on it and
 being able to use one a few times. It seems to be the best suited camera
 for what I am currently doing video wise (as compared to say.. mutant 
 peanut butter Jell-O wrestling wise).

 But... I just realised something last night while actually doing some 
 thinking for once. I know the L1 uses it's interchangeable lense system,
 I've gotten that far. Does this mean that my collection of video lenses
 will be totally unuseable with the L1? Will I be stuck with only the 
 L1 lenses available and the adapter+EOS lenses? A great deal of what I 
 will be filming will require a fisheye lense, or at least a super wide
 angle. I'd really prefer the fisheye. If my other lenses are useless, 
 does anyone know what it will cost to get a fisheye on the L1? I've been
 quoted $240 for the adapter, and have heard that there is an EOS fisheye
 but that it costs around $650. Can anybody canfirm this or give any 
 suggestions?