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From: rse8135@dewie.tamu.edu (R.S. Etheredge)
Subject: Yamaha Clavinova
Keywords: yamaha, clavinova
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:27:08 GMT

In article <92225.093748RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET> Robert Haskins  
<RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET> writes:
> From: rayc@tara.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Ray Cole)
> Subject: Re: Acoustic/digital pianos
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 01:37:12 GMT
> 
> In the above-referenced message, Ray < Ray.Cole@SanDiego.NCR.COM >  
corrects
> several of my misconceptions about the nature of digital pianos.   
However,
> when I said:
> 
> "[...] I'd recommend the digital instrument -- not necesary
> to tune, nice timbre (generally), reasonable touch responsiveness, and
> extreme portability (in many cases)," he responded:
> 
> "Hmm. The first point is true (not necessary to tune), and the touch
> responsiveness is usually ok, but the timbre, even on the best digital
> pianos is really no match for the real item and my Yamaha Clavinova is  
only
> "extremely portable" compared to an acustic piano -- getting the thing up
> the stairs to my apartment was an excersize I don't want to perform again
> any time soon!"
> 
> I submit that, even given the drawbacks, the timbre of a digital piano
> is more pleasing to a non-professional musician than that of a  
perpetually
> out-of-tune upright.  I don't know about you, but most people I know
> with pianos who are not serious musicians don't usually tune them very
> often -- and it was in that spirit and my (perhaps mistaken) impression
> that Mike's girlfriend doesn't want a career on the concert stage, or
> even has plans to go to music school, that I suggested the digital was
> more appropriate.  I didn't mean to imply, of course, that the timbre
> could _ever_ compete with the real thing.
> 
> Bob
Howdee,
We are anticipating the purchase of one of those Yamaha Clavinova in the  
near future. Have you suggestions, observations, testimonials? Thanks, and  
have a happy day...
Rusty Etheredge
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Subject: Re: Die Meistersinger
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Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:03:18 GMT

In article <27990089@otter.hpl.hp.com>, sec@otter.hpl.hp.com (Simon Crouch) writes...
>Hello all,
>	  I would greatly appreciate your recommendations for recordings
>	  (available on CD) of Wagners "Die Meistersinger". 
> 
>	  thanks,
>		  Simon.

Well, to put it simply, Simon, I don't think the definitive Meistersinger 
has been made yet, but here are some you may enjoy anyhoo:

Karajan/Kollo/Donath/Adam/Schrier on Angel -

Many have quarreled over the fact that Adam is just too light for the part, 
and they may be right.  I like this recording the best.  If they could have 
gotten Norman Bailey (from Solti's set) this may have been the dream 
Meistersinger.

Jochum/Domingo/Fischer-Dieskau et al on DGG -

A bold stroke to have Domingo sing von Stolzing.  Also a great recording

Solti/Bailey/Kollo on Decca (London) -

Although a big Solti fan, I was sorely disappointed by this set.  Kollo is 
in poor voice as von Stolzing, Eva is nothing at all special, BUT what a
great Sachs Bailey is.  I had a chance to see him perform this in Los 
Angeles (in '73 I think).  He was incredible.  Then this recording came out 
about 2 years later, and I think he was even better (maybe a reflection of 
Solti?).  The overall effect is such that this shouldn't be anyone's first 
choice, but when you're familiar with the opera and want to hear another 
Sachs - get this one.

And then there was (I don't know if you can get it now) a great live 
recording conducted by Knappersbush on Decca's Stereo Treasury Series.
I must say that the singing is a bit variable (and so is the sound), but 
what conducting!


Ron
Organization: University of Maryland at Baltimore
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 08:17:12 EST
From: Robert Haskins <RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: John Cage
 <1992Aug14.003043.25458@nuscc.nus.sg> <1992Aug14.033736.19292@dgbt.doc.ca>

In article <1992Aug14.033736.19292@dgbt.doc.ca>, ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec)
writes:

In article <1992Aug14.003043.25458@nuscc.nus.sg> smoliar@iss.nus.sg (stephen
smoliar) writes:
>In article <92226.081455RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET> Robert Haskins
><RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET> writes:
>> National coverage has been miniscule (a piece on National
>>Public Radio, someone told me), but nothing on networks that I saw.
>>
>I took my usual half-hour dose of CNN International when I came home yesterday
>afternoon.  There was no mention at all.

     In fact, I later discovered that the American version of CNN did carry
what folks told me was a pretty good piece on Cage -- I doubt that much music
was played, but it was extremely visible, national coverage nonetheless.

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: kmh@leland.Stanford.EDU (khanhmy hoang)
Subject: Does anyone know the phone number for Classic CD?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:27:08 GMT

	Or Phoenix Publications in Ocean, NJ?
	I've just received my first issue of Classic CD and the CD was missing
	from the package. I already tried 908-555-1212 but neither
	name was found. 
	Thank you for your help.
Organization: University of Maryland at Baltimore
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 21:47:34 EST
From: Robert Haskins <RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: WANTED: Franz Liszt, Petrarch Sonnets.
Distribution: world,local

There are a number of recordings -- they are part of the Italian section of
Liszt's Annes de Pelerinage.  Among the most highly recommended: Alfred
Brendel and Claudio Arrau, both on Phillips, both on CD, I believe.

Bob.
From: mgresham@dscatl.UUCP (Mark Gresham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Who is Peter Tiboris, anyway?
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:11:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Systems Co., Atlanta GA

In article <1992Aug9.170926.2518@fid.morgan.com> steve@fid.morgan.com (Steve Apter) writes:
>In article <46710@dscatl.UUCP> mgresham@dscatl.UUCP (Mark Gresham) writes:
>>In <1992Aug6.160941.1842@fid.morgan.com> steve@morgan.com (Steve Apter) writes:
>>}Funny you should ask.  I heard him conduct Berlioz' _Te Deum_ at
>>}Carnegie a few years ago.  I thought he did a splendid job, as
>>}did the amateur chorus, and orchestra of unknown provenance.
>>}The antiphonal effects, in particular, were stunningly rendered.
>>}I recall that the audience consisted largely of relatives and
>>}friends of the performers.
>>
>>Seriously, were you friend or family, or just happened to
>>otherwise attend the concert?
>
>Frankly, it didn't matter who the performers were.  I'm sure you'd
>agree that performances of the work are so rare (outside of France?)
>that it's silly to pick over who the performers are.  Judging from
>the attendance at that concert, this is not a view widely shared.

No, but [no flame] I didn't ask that, I just asked if *you* were
a friend of family of some of the performers (i.e., your reason
for attending) or if you otherwise happened to be in the audience
(i.e., that you did not know any of the performers, yet went to
hear the music).
  (Or are you a friend of Tiboris? :-))
  On two other points, with tickets to Tiboris' concerts being
reasonably competitive in price to many other NY concerts, I would
think that the average concertgoer *would* care about who the
performers are.
  Also I don't think performances in the U.S. of the "Te Deum"
are all that rare -- the work isn't performed as frequently as
"Messiah," Brahms' "Requiem," Beethoven's Ninth, or the Faure
"Requiem," but it is hardly absent from the concert stage of major
orchestras with resident choral ensembles.  (It certainly is
performed much more than Hindemith's "When Lilacs Last in the
Dooryard Bloom'd" and even much more than Beethoven's "Calm Sea
and Prosperous Voyage.")  Berlioz work *is* part of at least a
secondary cycle of works that gets passed through the
choral/symphonic subscription mill every so often.


Cheers,

--Mark Gresham

dscatl!mgresham@gatech.edu

==========================
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical,rec.music.early,soc.history,rec.arts.books
From: stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold)
Subject: CDs,books... about antique greek music
Followup-To: rec.music.classical
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 10:51:26 GMT
Organization: Delos Stuttgart, Germany

Hi !

I'm interested in any material about antique greek music.
What I'm looking for are CDs,records..., books (about musiclife
and theory) etc.

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx,
Stefan

-- 
+ Stefan Bechtold # stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org # Voice +49 711 813240 +
++++++++sed nemo potuit tangere: merda fuit ! (Martial III 17)+++++++++
From: bobs@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bob Sutton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Wedding music suggestions?
Date: 22 Aug 92 12:21:24 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

In article <1992Aug15.173924.19765@usenet.ins.cwru.edu) ac220@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Szabo) writes:

> Anyone have some suggestions for good wedding ceremony music?
> I would like to solicit your ideas.  The ceremony is a Catholic
> mass and I am slated to appear as the groom.

Widor's Toccata is a great choice.  First of all, any decent organist can
play it; second, the music is easy to find (I have it |-> ); third, it is
well-known in the church crowd because it is frequently played by church
organists, and, lastly, it is a terriffic piece.  I'd use it in my own
wedding (if it ever happens) except for one small hitch:  there is a 
better piece.

This better piece is an arrangement done by the late, great Virgil Fox of
the Toccata from Joseph Jongen's "Symphony Concertante" for ORgan and 
orchestra.  Fox used to play this piece at his concerts and are several 
recordings of him playing it as well as a recent recording on a Telarc
organ sampler.  There are also at least two recordings of it, one with Fox 
as organist, of the complete symphony with orchestra.  I have both of 
these, the organ only version on a terriffic direct-to-disk LP from 1977.

I'm sure Fox published his arrangement so it should be available from
some library somewhere.  The problem is finding an organist who can
play it.  It's very difficult.

-- 
Bob Sutton                        Love, most bitterly and fiercely oppresses
bobs@gnu.ai.mit.edu		  those who fight it than those who offer
al876@cleveland.freenet.edu       their servitude.    -- Ovid (Amores)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: steve@fid.morgan.com (Steve Apter)
Subject: Re: Orff: a few facts
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:32:35 GMT


From _The Musical Times_, July 92:

	The lost music
	--------------
	An effort to reinstate operas and other music
	banned by the Nazis after 1933 is to be made
	by Decca in a series of recordings called
	"Entartete Musik ("Perverted Music").  Operas
	by Krenek, Korngold, and Goldschmidt will be
	amongst the first releases next year.
From: k@west.darkside.com (K)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Bulent Arel
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:24:12 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

Hello, I am rather new to this Usenet thing...
I shall come straight to the point:  I am a composer interested in 
finding other composers who appreciate the music of Bulent Arel.  Has 
anyone here even HEARD or Arel??
Help.
.k.
!apple!uuwest!k
or
<k@west.darkside.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: inr@eccles.caltech.edu (I. Neill Reid)
Subject: re: a Monteverdi Cuenod
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Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:24:00 GMT

Well, query really - are we talking about the same Hugues Cuenod?
Who performed with Nadia Boulanger in the 1937 recordings (EMI) of
various Monteverdi Scherzi Musicali (isn't the performance of
Zefiro Torna the most stunningly musical non-authentic Monteverdi 
around?).  I don't know the details of
his biography - although I remember a BBC radio 3 programme on him perhaps
15 years ago, and I know he recorded the part of Don Basilio in The
Marriage of Figaro in the late 60s or early 70s - but I don't think
he'd record Monteverdi at age 85+ ! 1967 looks like the best bet so far.

 As to the recording itself, since I've had a couple of queries, I'm sure 
a modern, pure authenticist (I'm not sure if there are any of those) would 
baulk (quayle?) at the style - but the performances have a lot of panache
and there are some marvellously beautiful moments. But, malheureusement,
the notes give no clue as to who's singing what.

 Neill Reid, inr@eccles.caltech.edu
From: inr@eccles.caltech.edu (I. Neill Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: a Monteverdi query
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:43:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 Perhaps somebody in this group may be able to help satisfy
 my idle curiousity:-

 I just purchased an el cheapo cd on the Project 3 label of
Monteverdi's Scherzi Musicali. The vocal soloists are
Hugues Cuenod (who was one of the Monteverdi pioneers in Nadia
Boulanger's chamber group - marvellously unauthentic performances
recently re-issued on EMI), Charles Bressler, Louis-Jacques Rondeleux
with Albert Fuller (harpsichord), Joseph Iadoni (lute) and
the New York Chamber soloists (or a selection of same). 

The blurb with the disc contains almost no information of any
relevance but implies that the disc was recorded (or compiled) 
on the 400th anniversary of Monteverdi's birth (1967 - although
this would have been very much towards the end of Cuenod's career); 
the disc is dated 1989 (obviously impossible) but is called a 40th 
Anniversary disc (1949?). So - does anybody have any information about 
when the recording? It sounds post-Gyndebourne L'Incoronazione de 
Poppea, but not by much. 

 Thanks for any info.,
   Neill Reid  - inr@eccles.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Stravinsky's Le Nos
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:45:30 GMT

In article <2521@news.cerf.net> jonesm@nic.cerf.net (Matthew Jones) writes:
>My brother (who should know these things) said that Orffs's Carmina
>Burana is a some what of a rip off of Stravinsky's Le Nos (I might not
>have the spelling right). Does anyone care to comment on this?

Stravinsky's _The Wedding_/Les Noces/Svyadebka (pick a language!) was
written almost 2 decades before CB, and has a lot in common with it.  In
fact, much of Orff's mature style seems to relate to Stravinsky's music
from the 15 years or so beginning with Les Noces.  _Les Noces_, however,
is far more complicated in its construction (especially in matters of
rhythm).

btw, you spelled it phonetically!

Get a good recording of Les Noces, and a libretto.  It's great fun, and
the ending brings tears to my eyes every time; it's the one wedding I
cry at.

Roger

Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: steve@fid.morgan.com (Steve Apter)
Subject: Re: Record Collectors Alert
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:21:53 GMT


In article <1992Aug17.164402.1335@fid.morgan.com> 

I wrote, regarding the current sale at Record Hunter:

>  (No, I don't have the telephone number handy;
>  NY information is 212 555 1212, and it's free.)

I am informed that long-distance information is no
longer free.  So, the number is:

	212 697 8970

The fax number is:

	212 533 1649

They accept international orders.
From: kevin@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Kevin Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Wedding music suggestions?
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 12:03:06 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

ac220@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Szabo) writes:

> 
> Anyone have some suggestions for good wedding ceremony music?
> I would like to solicit your ideas.  The ceremony is a Catholic
> mass and I am slated to appear as the groom.  Please post
> suggestions here or e-mail to ac220@cleveland.freenet.edu.
> Thanks!
> Rich Szabo 
> -- 

 
I play weddings quite a bit in the summer. In my experience these are 
some of the songs couples seem to like:

Kanon in D (Pachelbel)
Sheep May Safely Graze (Bach)
Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring (Bach)
Trumpet Voluntary (Purcell or Clarke) (anyone know who REALLY wrote this? 
         every edition seems to differ!)
Trumpet Tune (as above)
Air (from the Water Music) (Handel)
Hornpipe (from the Water Music) (Handel)
Ode to Joy (Beethoven)
Adagio in D (Vivaldi)
My Heart Ever Faithful (Bach)

There are others, but these in particular seem to be requested the most 
often. Being Catholic myself, I wasn't aware the "Ave Maria" would be 
offensive in a Lutheran church, but it is, since they don't deify the 
Virgin Mary (OOPS!). It's totally silly, however, since no one was 
actually going to sing it, and the tune is beautiful.
 
Hope that helps.
KS

;--- (Kevin Scott) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
;E-mail: kevin@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: cbuckley@unix1.tcd.ie (Colm Buckley)
Subject: Re: DG's "Mozart's Masterpieces" series
Keywords: DG, Mozart
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:25:18 GMT

> ==  eb11@quads.uchicago.edu (Ernest Barreto)

>Does anyone have any opinions they would like to share regarding
>Deutsche Grammophone's "Mozart's Masterpieces" series? This is
>a set of 25 CD's, budget priced, that shows a picture of a cardboard
>upright with a profile of mozart on each CD cover.

Well, I like them (principally because they're good value - here in Ireland
they're six pounds, while many other classical CDs come in at eight, ten or
twelve). I find the recordings themselves to be good, competent
performances - nothing to shout from the rooftops about, but certainly not
bad. The presentation (each has a couple of paragraphs giving a little
background to the work in question) is also pretty good. My favourites are
the wind concertos and quartets.

And when you have twenty or so of them on a shelf, they look good!

-- 
Colm.
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From: rtut@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Raymond Tuttle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Leroy Anderson's good kitsch - CD review
Date: 17 Aug 92 01:10:12 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

There have been some good collections of his music over the years
(Fiedler, Abravanel and Kunzel come to mind), but my favorites are with
Frederick Fennell and the Eastman-Rochester "Pops" Orchestra.  A new
mid-priced Mercury Living Presence CD (432 013) contains 14 Anderson
selections with this team, and 9 more with Fennell conducting an
English studio orchestra.  The Eastman-Rochester selections were
recorded in 1956 and 1958, and the rest were recorded in 1964. 

The sound coming from the Eastman Theatre is a little dry, but the
English recordings open right up.  As for the performances, the studio
orchestra wears an extra layer of polish on their sound, but I love the
Eastman-Rochester group more for their unaffected, obvious enjoyment
of the music.  

All that remains to be said is "Where's Volume 2?"  The present disc
omits two of my favorites ("Bugler's Holiday" and "A Trumpeter's
Holiday").  I believe these were available on an earlier CD, but it is now
out of the Opus catalog.  And a reminder to Anderson fans: his fine
score for the musical "Goldilocks" was recently reissued on SONY
Classical, and it's also worth having, not least for the presence of
Elaine Stritch as the female lead. 





--
****************************************   Raymond S. Tuttle
"Dunkel ist das Leben, ist der Tod,"       University of Rochester
but it's nothing to get depressed about!   (still with his two little 
****************************************   white mice).
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: crcc6@Rosie.UH.EDU (Message from the Starship Enterprise)
Subject: Met's Opera Guide --- Need Address
Reply-To: crcc6@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:15:52 GMT


 Does anybody out there has the address for the Met Opera Broadcast Guide
-I lost my old copy and I wanted to get the schedule for the new season ...
thanks


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Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
From: roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Beethoven - overvalued?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:02:16 GMT

In article <7072@charon.cwi.nl> vanloon@cwi.nl (Maarten van Loon) writes:

>If I had to make of my favorite Van Beethovens, it certainly would be
>
>    1. Van Beethoven (early period)
>    2. Van Beethoven (middle period)
>    3. Van Beethoven (late period)

Ludwig or Camper?

Roger
From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Bach and religious feelings
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:21:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I think this thread has unravelled itself sufficiently from the
classical music realm, and maybe the contestants in this
puerile game should insult each other by email.

Ron >8^\
From: chrisi@lloyd.Camex.COM (Chris Ischay)
Subject: Re: Mail order CDs?
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:57:16 EDT

In article <1992Aug10.204649.8165@vax.oxford.ac.uk> ams@vax.oxford.ac.uk
writes:

>        I posted a message to rec.music.classical a few days ago, asking in
>passing whether anybody knew of any American companies selling CDs by mail 
>order who would be willing to export to Britain.

>Since then, I haven't seen any suggestions (my apologies if you posted and
>I missed it), but my email has been full of requests that I forward any
>replies that do arrive. There's clearly a market; somebody must be equipped
>to take advantage of it.

When I see such questions, I sometimes think, "Oh, someone else is bound to
answer.  So I won't."  Thanks for asking again.  I just called Record
Masters in Baltimore, Maryland.  I don't use mail order myself, but this
organization is frequently named in this newsgroup as among the best.

The person at Record Masters says they frequently mail to foreign
countries.  Ways to contact them include:

800-727-3472  (toll-free number that probably only works inside the US)

410-366-1250  regular phone number, now called their "voice line"

410-235-0534  fax line

If you wish to use the postal service, write to:

ATTN:  Classics
Record Masters
Baltimore, MD  21211

--
Chris Ischay
chrisi@camex.com