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From: wchucky@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chuck Woo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MOD newsgroup debate: PLEASE READ!
Date: 15 Apr 1992 01:01:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Overloaded Computing Facility
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In article <1992Apr14.214844.8600@athena.cs.uga.edu> hazen@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mark Hazen) writes:
>I believe Tad was keeping archives of comp.sys.amiga.sources and
>binaries... but AB20 is gone gone gone. No more uploads, even...
>::sigh::
>
>There has to be a grand solution somewhere in here...

there's a guy who posted to comp.sys.amiga.announce saying he would be able
to set up a net site if 200 people sent him $10 each so he can get a one
gigabyte HD...

could that be the solution?

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From: E_BRIGGS@unhh.unh.edu ((Zack) Briggs)
Subject: Re:      MOD files on the Mac
Organization: U.N.H(olodec)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 04:02:40 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

In <92093.214804C09615NL@wuvmd.wustl.edu> Nick writes:

>  I'm sorry to intrude on your newsgroup here. Yes, I'm an outsider; I
> own a Macintosh, but it's a very good Macintosh. More importantly, I
> just picked up a program that let's me play Amiga MOD files. Those things
> are awesome!


Yeah, I am also a (semi) Mac user....
	By the way, where did you find the program?
	What's the program's name?
	I am also interested... PLEASE!!

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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: New Group--fuel for the fire..
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:01:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: templar.jbickers.05y5
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Apr15.074334.4381@ens.fr> by espie@basilic.ens.fr (Marc Espie):
> In article <jbickers.05tl@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:

> >    I'd prefer PowerPacked files. Or XPKed files, if someone can write
> >    an XPK module that does decent compression of samples.

> No, please! Right now, this is not advisable. There are lots of machines
> out there able to play modules---IBMs, MACs, sparc stations, indigos, NeXts

    Size is everything. If there was an XPK module that worked well with
    samples, I'd want XPK. Otherwise, go with whatever people have got, I
    suppose.

> a bad mistake at this time, especially since it costs very little to amiga
> people (like myself, BTW) to uncompress lharc and recompress it using their
> favorite method.

    Not with PowerPacker, that wants to clickety-click its way through
    everything. But then, it doesn't over size advantages over lharc, so
    it can be ruled out.

>      Marc Espie (espie@ens.fr)
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From: bmaple@burner.UUCP (Bob Maple)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: His Master's Noise
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:14:22 GMT
Organization: The Back Burner BBS, Lakewood CO (via C-Net Amiga)

Does anyone know if any of the songs on the 'His Master's Noise collection' (I think?) by Mahoney and Kaktus are available in module form?

In particular I'm looking for 'Crystal City'..

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From: whites@tardis.union.edu (Shayne White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MIDI Programs
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:35:14 GMT
Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY

linton@bbs.orion.bison.mb.ca (Michael Linton) writes:

>I'm considering buying some MIDI gear for my A3000.  What I would like to 
>know is:
> 

>1)  How good is KCS?
	
	Can't really say..

>2)  How good is P&P Pro?

	B&P Pro is fantastic!  A great product.  Blue Ribbon Softworks are
really innovative and pro-amiga.  They always seem to be looking to support
new amiga technologies like the Sunrize card, etc.


>3)  Is there a MIDI card for the Amiga that'd work on the 3000?
>4)  Which is a better patch editor?  X-Or, MIDI Quest, or Patch Meister?
>5)  Can you use internal sounds (samples) in B&P and KCS?  If I'm not
>    mistaken, you need an internal sounds kit for B&P.  Which of the two
			   ^this is true (and it comes with some good samples)

>    has better support/options for internal sounds?  And can these 
>    internal sounds be sequenced with MIDI external sounds?

>6)  Is there a MIDI program that has block style notation for drum 
>    programming?

	B&P allows pretty much ANY style of notation.

>7)  Are there better programs than KCS or B&P Pro?  Or are they the best
>    packages?  There doesn't seem to be too many to choose from (at least
>    via mail order)
> 
>I'd appreciate it if all comments, opinions, and answer were mailed to the 
>address at the end of this message.  Thanks in advance.
> 

>Mike

Sure...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Subject: Re: A New Newsgroup for MODS
    <1992Apr9.172314.1911@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:46:06 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
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umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) writes:

>>  ...why don't we start a new newsgroup called comp.sys.amiga.mods...

>Maybe to slightly change things to reflect that while almost all modules
>are made on the Amiga, they are not used exclusively on the Amiga, we should
>go along the lines of just comp.modules and comp.modules.d

>comp.modules would be for the posting of uuencoded mods.
>comp.modules.d would be for the discussion of mods in general.

First of all, a group for *discussing* mods is probably a good idea.
Unless there's a strong opinion that it shouldn't be anchored to
a particular system, "comp.sys.amiga.audio.modules" should do
fine.

On the other hand, you'll never get a comp group for *distributing*
these things without the following:

1)	Any group for distributing these things will have to be moderated.
	One of the things this implies is that volume will be limited
	and a particular mod will typically only be published once.
	You'd still need an archive site for access to existing mods.

2)	The charter of the group must ban mods which contain commercial 
	material (ie samples from other songs).  The copyright problem 
	is too large to be ignored.

3)	You put it under comp.binaries and give it a truly descriptive 
	name.  After all, if you don't already know the music connection, 
	"mods" or "modules" could mean a lot of things.

Even then, I doubt it would fly.  The main complaint about the pictures
groups is that it's a tremendous amount of bandwidth, but of almost no
practical value and of interest to a very select group of people.  Here, 
the moderator should be able to keep the volume down, but mods are still 
pretty useless in any practical sense.

Let me suggest that you try to find another site willing to archive mods.  
If you must have a newsgroup, an alt.binaries group is much more likely
to work out (but won't get around as well as a comp group).  Keep
in mind that with either an FTP site or a newsgroup you're asking the
net to store and transmit gigabytes of low-value data for you.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: dtiberio@csws6.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: A New Newsgroup for MODS
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:23:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr07.200343.28812@CS.ORST.EDU> divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney) writes:
>
>  
>  Since A) ab20.larc.nasa.gov is shutting down,
>	B) People are clamoring for a place to post MODS,
>    and C) This newsgroup is called c.s.a.AUDIO (not c.s.a.MODS),
>
>  ...why don't we start a new newsgroup called comp.sys.amiga.mods and keep
>  comp.sys.amiga.audio open for discussion of topics like amiga music 
>  composition, reviews, hardware and software updates, etc. like it is now?
>
>  I have no idea what it takes to get a new newsgroup started, but since
>  we really shouldn't depend on a single FTP site for the entire MOD 
>  community, and some people have no FTP access anyway, wouldn't c.s.a.mods
>  be a logical choice?
>

	I believe you have to get a certain number of votes
in favor of the group. Should be 150 or so. 

	With me, that makes two votes.


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From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: MOD newsgroup debate: PLEASE READ!
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:35:24 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1992Apr14.051525.6914@athena.cs.uga.edu> hazen@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mark Hazen) writes:
>One point here. A newsgroup devoted to MOD binaries is a nice thought,
>but it would also require that there be a comp.sys.(insert name option
>here).mods post archive set up. Think about it, most newsgroups do NOT
>keep articles for very long on most systems. I have trouble finding
>something over 3 days old sometimes.
>
>Ergo, BEFORE people decide on a newsgroup for mod binaries, SOMEONE
>MUST BE WILLING TO SET UP A NET ARCHIVE OF POSTED MODS, to make it
>worth anything at all.
>
>Anyone want to volunteer their time and disk space?
>
>
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I don't want to argue with my own group members.......BUT =8*)
What is the point of having a storage of MODS from usenet if the main point
of setting this up was that there were people who couldn't use ftp in the
first place???!!

Seems as though its a circle to me!!

Sorry Reverb, but i just can't understand storing modules that are already
available on the networks!!

Or have i got it wrong again.

My friend

U4ia of Megawatts......who else????
From: hpverwei@cs.ruu.nl (Dick Verweij)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: st-xx to st-zz
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:41:49 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

Is there a FTP-site where I can find ST-XX soundsamples??

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From: srs5960@venus.tamu.edu (STUDEBAKER, SHANNON RAY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Ghouls & Ghost?
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:35:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I have read that this has some really great music. If anybody has
figured out how to rip the music off of it, will you please post it on ab20.
I would really like to hear it!


			"THE MUSIC WARRIOR"
From: Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Looking for NON-trackers...
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:33:24 GMT
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Thu  9 Apr 92 02:17, Jhsa@cc.tut.fi (janne Salmij{rvi)
wrote:
 JS> In <Paul_Trauth.0bkg@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-
 JS> orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth) writes:

>What I'd *really* like to find, but am afraid i'm probably going to have
to
>code myself, is a player that'll let me do stuff like this:
>voice 0 sequence: patt 0 patt 2 patt 2 patt 7 ...
>voice 1 sequence: patt 1 patt 5 patt 6 patt 1 ...
>voice 2 sequence: patt 9 patt 9 patt 9 patt 9 ...
>voice 3 sequence: patt 8 patt A patt B patt B ...
>where each pattern is for -one voice only-.

 JS> What you want is called Future Composer or Digital Mugician or
 JS> various
 JS> incarnations of SidMon or SoundMonitor (just like the one on C64 by
 JS> Chris H.).
 JS> Digital Mugician is commercial and I think SidMons are too, but
 JS> Future Composer
 JS> is PD at least it was when I last saw it. In all these each pattern
 JS> has only
 JS> 1 track (1 voice as you wanted).
Thanks! Now, the next big question... where can i find these? Perhaps on an
FTP site, perhaps otherwise...
 JS> There you have it. There are more than 'just-another-tracker-clone's
 JS> you know..
 JS> Just dig deep enough...
I was *hoping* they weren't all JAFT out there... i knew that most of the
European music routines on the C64 worked like this (though very few
filtered down here to the intellectual backwater of New Orleans), i figured
*someone* had to have re-worked them on the Amiga upon upgrading.

 JS> - You can hear the sound of two hands clapping. + Janne Salmij{rvi
 JS> - Now how does one hand sound ?          + jhsa@cc.tut.fi
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From: dac@dacami.UUCP (David Culberson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re:  MOD to MIDI ?
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:09:40 EST
Organization: My home system.

In article <-aljyw=@lynx.unm.edu> kholland@hydra.unm.edu (Kiernan Holland) writes:

>Of course, we would need 16-bit audio capabilities first. 
>It is pretty hard to impress some musicians with 8-bit sound. 
>Now if you add a MIDIVERB II, then you could impress the heck out of 
>them. ;-)

  But that's the beauty of MIDI...  You don't need 16 bit audio on the
computer; it's all in the midi device, so you take the MIDI file to the
music store, and play it through some awesome MIDI sound module, and...

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From: jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: A New Newsgroup for MODS
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:14:43 GMT
Reply-To: jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

From article <920407.172941.CDT.C503719@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU>, by C503719@UMCVMB.missouri.edu (Baird McIntosh):
> In Message-ID: <1992Apr07.200343.28812@CS.ORST.EDU>
>           divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney) said:
> |  ...why don't we start a new newsgroup called comp.sys.amiga.mods and keep
> |  comp.sys.amiga.audio open for discussion of topics like amiga music
> |  composition, reviews, hardware and software updates, etc. like it is now?
> |
> MODS would have to be uuencoded to be sent thru the mail (newsgroups).  The
> size of MODS ranges easily up to 300K, and there are certainly bigger ones
> around.  When you uuencode 300K of binary data, you generally get a larger
> file (always?).  I'm concerned with message size, bandwidth, etc...

Yes, you could expect a megabyte a day (a guess) from such a newsgroup, and
thats a lot of data to inflict on everyone in usenet.

Maybe it would be a better idea to find e-mail 'pen pals' to swap mods with.
If you are lucky enought to find someone with few or no gateways between
you systems you can send big files easily without worrying anyone else.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Looking for MODS
From: lundman@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (L Lundman)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:25:36 GMT
Organization: Disorganised.

I belive he also write the song 'rainynight' which IMHO is very good.

I got my version of it from ab20 but that was a loooong time ago.

Kef
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From: miranda@mozart.amd.com (Paul Miranda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: A New Newsgroup for MODS
Summary: great idea !
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:02:00 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

Great idea... it would be nice to not wade through the mod discussions
in order to talk about AUDIO things..
From: hazen@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mark Hazen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: SITES FOR MODS? (now that ab20 is shutting down)
Summary: Boy meets girl, Boy finds Amiga, Boy dumps girl.
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:08:21 GMT
Organization: The Hell If I Know

In article <920406.171129.CDT.C503719@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU> C503719@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU (Baird McIntosh) writes:

>So, where do you all post Tracker/MED Mods?  What are the other big sites for
>Amiga music?  All of the Mods musicians/collectors will need a new site(s) for
>distribution/source of Mods.

I was looking around for sites, it seems that plaza.aarnet.edu.au has
all of the MODs online that AB20 does. Either the admin is a real
modfreak or plaza is a mirror of AB20. I propose we MOD it there... a
little slower time up and down than AB20, but hey... it's there.


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From: hazen@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mark Hazen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: MOD newsgroup debate: PLEASE READ!
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:15:25 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

One point here. A newsgroup devoted to MOD binaries is a nice thought,
but it would also require that there be a comp.sys.(insert name option
here).mods post archive set up. Think about it, most newsgroups do NOT
keep articles for very long on most systems. I have trouble finding
something over 3 days old sometimes.

Ergo, BEFORE people decide on a newsgroup for mod binaries, SOMEONE
MUST BE WILLING TO SET UP A NET ARCHIVE OF POSTED MODS, to make it
worth anything at all.

Anyone want to volunteer their time and disk space?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: sboutwel@sandbox.kenn.wa.us (Scott Boutwell)
Subject: UPD Author...
Organization: The Sandbox, Public Access HP-UX
Distribution: World
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:46:33 GMT

I'm looking for the Author Of the UPD sound daemon that was released with ARQ
(Animated Reqestor)...  I have some questions I'd like to ask about the ID
file once again... I spoke with you awhile back about this and would
appreciate if you would contact me via E-Mail sometime soon...

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From: Mark_Rippa@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Mark Rippa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Looking for MODS
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:13:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: agwbbs.Mark_Rippa.0brk
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Hi. I am looking for MODS written by Moby (Frederic Motte) who apparently
lives in France. I have "Progressive-Funk" & "Dragons-Funk" and really am
interested in hearing more of his work. Any names of ftp sites with his
MODS would be appreciated. Additionally, if someone knows his Internet
email address (if he has one), that info would also be very helpful.
Thanks.


                            Mark


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