HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: follow-up
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:30:36 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.



(edm)
/Oh give me a break!  This is the second time I've heard this analogy used.
/pnw.personals is _not_ tantamount to a church!  Frankly, pnw.personals is
/IMHO not much more than a street corner with a few evangelests on it.  If
/you don't like it, hit "n" or go to another street corner.

As has already been pointed out (and which you chose to ignore; another
Xtian characteristic) a newsgroup it is very much like a room with a sign 
on it. "In this room, the following topic is being discussed:  "

"Going to another street corner" doesn't help either; that is why this 
newsgroup was started in the first place.  The "evangelists" simply follow 
you to the next streetcorner, like overagressive panhandlers.  They don't
know when to take "fuck no" for an answer.



>PS:  No, I am not in favor of revoking this guy's posting privileges.  But in 
>the absence of a moderator, there is nothing wrong with exerting a little
>peer pressure to make someone see how their behavior is uncalled-for.

/(edm)
/Ah, net police.  I knew they existed somewhere...


Yeah, right.  

Any social disapproval = net police.  

Does this also mean that anytime a Xtian expresses disapproval on the net, 
that makes them the Net Nazis?  

Damn, you Xtians can dish out the rebuke and disapproval, but when it comes 
home to rest with you, all of a sudden you cry "foul".  

Hypocrisy is another Xtian characteristic; thanks for the illustration.



>It probably won't do any good; Xtians tend to view any opposition to their
>actions as "of the devil".  So when they are screwing up and being 
>offensive they never realize it because they discount all the 
>external signals they receive.

(edm)
/I think this remark is uncalled for, wrong and without significant basis.
/I know plenty of Christians that would not fit that pattern at all.

This remark has incredible basis; I was raised in a fundamental, evangelical
church in the South.  It was amazing to watch them close their eyes to
any facts (history, evolution, personal hygiene, etc.) just because
"God's word says so".

How does it feel to be consistently wrong?



-- 
Ed Morin
Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
"Serving the Usenet community since 1987."
edm@nwnexus.WA.COM
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Sin and Corrruption
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:51:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.714203514
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Aug19.033550.16466@cadreor.cadre.com> neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke) writes:

>monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan) writes:
>>Exactly what is this SIN and CORRUPTION which is suppose to exist on this
>>little piece of the net-world?
>>Any suggestions?  What's your favorite sin and corruption?

>There are so many to choose from.  You can earn bonus points for some of the
>more advanced forms, if you do them in a McDonald's during lunch hour.

>Neil

>-- 
>Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
>"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."

Can you do Wendy's in MacDonalds? Or does that require Colonel Sanders
as a chaperone?
From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:55:03 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

: >OK, then.  The game is strip BINGO.  Any takers?
: 
: I'm there......any time, any place...
: 
: Dave

  Dave, Dave, Dave.  It's up here Dave - not Orygun.  And you start with
  your clothes ON!  


  I hope your mother doesn't see you............



  

  
 
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are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America.  If you don't like it - get out of my country.   
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From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:52:23 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Tracy Monaghan (monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu) wrote:

: >Would this be considered ``Sin and Corruption'' (SACk)?
: >If so, I'm game!
 
: OK, then.  The game is strip BINGO.  Any takers?

  OK let me get this straight.  If you cover all then you uncover is that
  right?  Or - if you loose, you loose?  If you cover down vertically - 
  what then?  If you cover across horizontally, what then?  This is getting
  kinky!  (Hey, no fair adding extra clothing, either - I saw you!)

  OK - I'm ready to play.  Whose got the cards?  Whose got the balls?


  
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are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America.  If you don't like it - get out of my country.   
"Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous."
From: robd@shotgun.wv.tek.com
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Hurt
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:44:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1626
Reply-To: robd@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Reliability Engineering


> In article <u17TPB3w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com>
jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
> >
> >        I hurt for all of you.  I really do.

Perhaps if you were to stop being such a pain, the hurt would stop....

          +====================================================+
          | Robert Dixon, Reliability Engineering Proj. Leader |
          |         email - robd@shotgun.WV.TEK.COM            |
	  |              DoD #0176  AMA #640308                |
	  |             "I ride, therefore I am"               |
          +====================================================+
From: ace@eisley.wa.com (Ace of Death)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: SWM seeks sin and corruption
Keywords: sin and corruption
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 13:22:00 PDT
Organization: Mos Eisley Spaceport BBS

HEY!

I keep hearing(reading) these rumors that there is some serios sin and 
corruption on this board.  Even bad enough to attract attention of other 
"normal" people and make them want to "help" the people here.

Well....  I'm game(not gamey) to discuss some sin and corruption.  I 
haven't had a good dose in a while.  We could also talk about some good 
old fasion death and dismemberment.  My life gets boring without this 
stuff in it.

C YA

P.S. Someone should tell these other people about alt.evil.


Bye For Now...
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From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:24:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.tertium.713723068
Organization: University of Washington

keith@pdaxs.techbook.com (Keith) writes:


> WANTED:  just for curiosity's sake, I would like to hear from you if you 
>are a young girl, age 19-20, who is sold out for Jesus.  I haven't seen 


Ahem....

You've contradicted yourself here (you've really got that Xtian thing down,
don't you?)...

If she's 19-20, she's probably *not* a girl.  Most likely, she's a yong woman.
So which is it?
From: pnwp-423@onion.rain.com
Subject: Nature Oriented SWM seeks SWF (Seattle-Portland)
X-Posting-Software: afs 1.0a
Reply-To: pnwp-423@onion.rain.com
Organization: Anonymous Forwarding Service
Distribution: pnw
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:15:32 GMT

 Hi SWF's  I'm a Nature Oriented SWM living in the Rural Seattle area who is
seeking a penpal or possibly more if the shoe fits. 

 I'm a 32yo SWM who is very much in love with nature and the outdoors. I
enjoy hiking, camping, gardening, crafts, personal growth, arts, working
with my hands and playing guitar. I live in the woods, surrounded by deer,
trees, and wildlife, but am close enough to Seattle and Portland to enjoy
the arts, shopping and the chance to soak up some culture.

 I'm hoping to find a nature oriented woman, who like myself, finds peace,
inspiration, and even religion of some kind in the trees and mountains and
animals of the forests and wild places. Who may understand where I'm at and
can share inspiration, ideas, stories, adventures, travel, and maybe
romance. 

 I am most attracted to women who are feminine, adventurous, outdoorish and
happy with simple, natural living. I may have other preferences, but I won't
bore anyone with them here.

 I am 5'10" with dark hair, HWP, nearly vegetarian, childless and have never
been married. I am liberal and open minded about most things in life.

 All sincere replies will be answered. Picture upon request.

 Sincerely,
 Anonymous



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From: bbeer@milton.u.washington.edu (Bob Beer)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Staying and leaving
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:41:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug19.224112.16069
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug19.204942.12630@nntp.uoregon.edu> dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter) writes:
>THIS IS A MESSAGE wishing for all the people who are sick of reading the
>bible thumping batter-crap on this group and are think of leaving: STAY!!!
>
>The bible thumpoing ignoramouses have lost a crucial part of their lives to
>their misfounded believes. They will never experience some of the wonders
>which life is all about. So, take pity on these poor pitiful souls. AND
>IGNORE THEM... its not so hard. When you start reading a messgae and it
>mentions god or some other semi farcical entity; just bloody go on.

Right on...that's what kill files are for!
>
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
From: djvv@zlf.uucp (David van Veen)
Subject: Re: ad
Organization: daj Seattle
Distribution: pnw
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:15:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.024454.2102@leela.cs.orst.edu> hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway) writes:

Stuff deleted....

>ed in many criminal & civil cases (presonally & professionally) of racism and 
>discrimination & it always starts with "humor" - the classic defense.  e.g.,
>"I didn't mean to tell her her ass was gorgeous in a sexist or discriminatory 
>way, your honor."  "I was just kidding around."  "I didn't mean to hurt anyone,
>I was only following orders, mein heir."  Grow up, mate.  We are all judged 
>NOT by our intentions: we are judged objectively by our by our words in print 
>& orally.
>
>It has been my experience & training that humor is predicate to prejudice,
>discrimination & racism.  Racial, ethnic, religious intolerence is abhorant
>to me any disguise.  What matters are my perceptions & not yours or crystal's
>intentions.  That's it in a nutshell.  My intolerence is the same as though
>she were to respond to a african american's post by calling him or her a
>nigger. One person's meat is another's poison.  C'est la vie.
>
>Warm regards,
>
>R. Holloway

 What Matters, what matters??????


 What matters is you are to self rightous. If you can't take a simple joke
then you`d better go live in a cave. This world is not going to stop kidding
just to avoid a preponderence of an intent to predicate prejudice. 

  What matters is I don't think you get enough. You might try some drugs
just for the fun of it.  Stop and smell the roses. Go to a night club
or some thing. Make a crank call to some stranges and tell them a joke. 
Watch the women walk by and think nasty thoughts. Get a life! 


   Life is to short to take serioulsy. 
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
From: pnwp-459@onion.rain.com
Subject: Seattle DWM ISO S/D*F
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Distribution: pnw
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:15:28 GMT

 
There was an interesting post by Scotty a couple days ago.  I agree!
There has been entirely too much pro- anti- and painfully impartial
discussion about other things lately.  So, here is my contribution
towards getting things back on track in pnw.personals!


Me:  DWM, 53, honest, sharing, caring, "over-weight, outta shape, and
over 50" (I said "honest" didn't I?).  I am continually working on the
first two, can't do much about the third!  Two grown, independant
daughters, two cats, one dog, and a lot of unused love and affection.  I
have found that being alone is no fun, and the company of a nice lady
makes lots of things more enjoyable.  Things like an evening walk around
Greenlake, people watching at the Center, or flying kites and
beachcombing at Ocean Shores.  Even watching the 'Hawks on Sunday
afternoons!

You:  Divorced or single woman; age, height, weight, race not important,
it is the person inside that counts.  You live in Seattle, or close
enough to make travel convenient, and enjoy being out and about, as well
as inside and comfortably close.  You like walking, the zoo, aquarium,
ferry rides, simple meals in quiet places, good wine, cool beers on warm
afternoons, sharing and trusting.

Drop me a note, let's start a correspondence and see what comes about.




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From: monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Sin and Corrruption
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:10:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug19.151003.23143
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <crystal.714203514@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>In <1992Aug19.033550.16466@cadreor.cadre.com> neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke) writes:
>
>>monaghan@carson.u.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan) writes:
>>>Exactly what is this SIN and CORRUPTION which is suppose to exist on this
>>>little piece of the net-world?
>>>Any suggestions?  What's your favorite sin and corruption?
>
>>There are so many to choose from.  You can earn bonus points for some of the
>>more advanced forms, if you do them in a McDonald's during lunch hour.
>
>>Neil
>
>>-- 
>>Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
>>"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."
>
>Can you do Wendy's in MacDonalds? Or does that require Colonel Sanders
>as a chaperone?
>
>

Don't be chicken!  Get a pizza the action!
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
From: finneyk@seanews.akita.com (Ken Finney)
Subject: Re: ad
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:22:30 GMT

In article <tertium.713723068@milton> tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l
boyd) writes:
>keith@pdaxs.techbook.com (Keith) writes:
>
>
>> WANTED:  just for curiosity's sake, I would like to hear from you if
you 
>>are a young girl, age 19-20, who is sold out for Jesus.  I haven't
seen 
>
>
>Ahem....
>
>You've contradicted yourself here (you've really got that Xtian thing
down,
>don't you?)...
>
>If she's 19-20, she's probably *not* a girl.  Most likely, she's a yong
woman.
>So which is it?

Years ago in Seattle, a high school had the restrooms labeled "Men"
and "Girls".  This was judged by the administration to be sexist,
and the "Girls" was changed to "Women".  Within a couple of days
some of the girls had taken the "Women" sign down and handpainted
"Girls" in its place...
The moral of the story: don't get hung up on labels.
Historically, a female of less than 8 would be a girl, a girl of
between 8 and 14 a young woman, and 14 or over a wife or a spinster.
From: sanelson@milton.u.washington.edu (S. A. Nelson)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: goodbye all
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:40:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug17.054018.21759
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	Hi. I'm a 21 year old, attractive female math student at the UW, 
and I decided to read this group in the hopes of maybe finding cool people
to spend time with. However, I have been saddened to discover that nearly
everyone who posts does so with the sole intention of converting others
and/or calling them intolerant if they happen to have an opinion. Well, if
you were wondering "where are all the young women who might be reading this
group," here's your answer...YOU'VE CHASED THEM ALL AWAY.
From: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: goodbye all
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:44:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Aug19.104404.11838
Organization: Pseudopolis Yard

sanelson@milton.u.washington.edu (S. A. Nelson) writes:
>
>	Hi. I'm a 21 year old, attractive female math student at the UW, 

Alas.  Why weren't there such beings around when I was an undergrad?  
Is that what I get for going to WSU instead of the U?

>Well, if
>you were wondering "where are all the young women who might be reading this
>group," here's your answer...YOU'VE CHASED THEM ALL AWAY.

And they're coming close to chasing me away also.  Well, that plus the
lack of women posting articles ISO computer nerds.

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Newsgroups: pnw.personals
From: donita@scic.intel.com (Donita Thompson)
Subject: Boo hoo hoo...
Organization: Intel SCIC, Beaverton, OR
Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:10:45 GMT

> In article <u17TPB3w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com>
jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
> >
> >        I hurt for all of you.  I really do.

You keep asking for it. I think you must like it.
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Crystal
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:55:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.713800527
Organization: University of Washington

In <1992Aug14.025637.2214@leela.cs.orst.edu> hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway) writes:


>In article <crystal.713756527@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>In <s5LgPB1w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
>>
>>
>>>        I think you have some wires crossed Crystal.  You tell me that 
>>>I should not "preach" my beliefs on the personal thread, but then you 
>>>turn right around and do the same.  Don't say it's not preaching cause it 
>>>is, it's just not the same as mine.  If I were to say the Abortion is 
>>>great and that I encourage it, That would be preaching also, but since 
>>>it's not against it nobody would fight me.  Thant is exactly what is 
>>>happening here.  I only left a message that was personal to the one that 
>>>was interested.  This Keith guy did the same.  Your scared.  Your scared 
>>>of the truth.  I know you wont admit it, but their is something that your 
>>>so scared of - you have to fight it until the end.  Don't you see what is 
>>>happening to you.  Open your eyes and you'll see a little truth.  
>>
>>>---
>>>jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) (Public Access User)
>>>pdaxs gives free access to news & mail. (503) 644-8135 - 1200/2400, N81  
>>>Send to info@techbook.com for more information.
>>>Public access users are <NOT> affiliated with TECHbooks.  
>>
>>"Preaching" is the FORCING of one's views on another, repeatedly attempting
>>to drum something into someone that they don't care to listen to...
>>
>>Stating an OPINION is *NOT* preaching.
>>
>>I state my opinions. 
>>Nowhere have I preached.
>>
>>Nowhere have I suggested that one not believe in what they believe in. I
>>simply stated that I don't believe and I stated why with 2 simple quotations.s.
>>That is not preaching.
>>That is stating an opinion.
>>
>>Crystal

>Crystal:

>Then why do you ridicule someone else?  Why did you feel compelled to "poke
>fun" at another?  If you didn't care for what he wrote, why not just put it
>in you Kill file?  Your opinion is like assholes, everyone's got one, but
>few really want to become intimately aware of it.

>Warm regards,


I did not ridicule someone else...I ridiculed a PHRASE...

The words and the person are NOT the same thing...ie, just as one's behavior do   is not the person themselve, either.

If your behavior is bad (or your words) it does not mean that the person as a whole is bad, just that particular behavior, or choice of words.  And for some reason, net folk tend to attack the PERSON behind the words, rather than the words
or ideas themselves.  

Not sure why...

just humorless, stodgy, intolerant world I guess.
From: keith@pdaxs.techbook.com (Keith)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: job
Date: 12 Aug 92 02:57:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdaxs.N3HDPB1w165w
Organization: Portland Public Access sponsored by TECHbooks Bookstore


        WANTED:  lifetime job opportunity and possible career change 
available - to anyone willing to work under the authority of a Jewish 
Carpenter.  He currently employs millions of persons internationally and 
interculturally.  Wages are determined at life's end.  To send for 
information, write Keith through E-mail.

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From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: ad
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:03:17 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

: Neil and Crystal:
: 
: We are all judged NOT by our intentions: we are judged objectively by our
: words in print & orally.

  Neil, Crystal and a Nun - orally.  I'm going out into the audience and 
  watch this!

  


 
 
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From: hollowr@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (R. Holloway)
Newsgroups: pnw.personals
Subject: Re: Crystal
Summary: Yes, this is the point
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:51:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Aug14.025144.2157
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <s5LgPB1w165w@pdaxs.techbook.com> jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) writes:
>
>        I think you have some wires crossed Crystal.  You tell me that 
>I should not "preach" my beliefs on the personal thread, but then you 
>turn right around and do the same.  Don't say it's not preaching cause it 
>is, it's just not the same as mine.  If I were to say the Abortion is 
>great and that I encourage it, That would be preaching also, but since 
>it's not against it nobody would fight me.  Thant is exactly what is 
>happening here.  I only left a message that was personal to the one that 
>was interested.  This Keith guy did the same.  Your scared.  Your scared 
>of the truth.  I know you wont admit it, but their is something that your 
>so scared of - you have to fight it until the end.  Don't you see what is 
>happening to you.  Open your eyes and you'll see a little truth.  
>
>---
>jthompso@pdaxs.techbook.com (Ambassador) (Public Access User)
>pdaxs gives free access to news & mail. (503) 644-8135 - 1200/2400, N81  
>Send to info@techbook.com for more information.
>Public access users are <NOT> affiliated with TECHbooks.  

Ambassador:

You've now found out what politically correct speech is & how it works in the
REAL world.  It is used to stop you from saying what you feel or think, but
allows others (who are politically correct - especially with regard to 
religious prejudice) to say what they want.  Take not this is a rather
benign lesson, but in the world, the consequences are all too real & devastat-
ing.  Good luck & pax vobiscum.