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From: williamf@umbc5.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper)
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:30:35 GMT

In article <4840@prcrs.prc.com> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
>In article <25SEP199206280779@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>> There's no need for any average-sized male to fear mugging if he
>> projects a sense of being attentive to his surroundings. The
>
>Maybe so at the office, but lets drop you of on the eastern side of DC
>and see how well you do.    And even if your statement were true, it smacks
>of 'to hell with women or the elderly, I'm ok so there is no problem'.

 MOST violent crime in the city is directed against people who themselves 
 participate in criminal activities.  Your suggestion that the Eastern 
 side of DC is some sort of closed and armed section, immediately hostile
 to outsiders, is rather foolish.  It ain't so folks.  I don't live in the
 city any longer but I go thru. there regularly and your implication is
 far, far off the mark.  No one, male or female, living in the burbs or
 city, ought to take their security lightly.  Living in urban areas demands
 you set aside any naivete about potential crime.  The way you do that is
 just as Charles suggests and is true for males and females, old and young;
 be attentive to your surroundings and cautious at all times.  What this 
 doesn't mean is that you stop living and retreat to the bunker you call 
 home or sit in the warm confines of the far out suburbs and pontificate
 knowingly about someplace you may have never passed thru. ever.

  
>How about taking your head out of the sand to see what's going on.

  I wonder if you have bothered to look behind the sensationalist TV news
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From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: more on crime here
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:27:25 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <1992Sep30.173403.20268@relay.nswc.navy.mil>, bwallet@apssgi.nswc.navy.mil (Brad Wallet) writes:
> Know what?  I don't lock my car at night, and the lock to my front door
> hasn't worked in years.  Y'all don't even know the meaning of the word
> careless.  No, you keep the city.  Driving twenty minutes on the highway
> (in no traffic) is a small price to pay.

I dont know where the Naval Surface War Center is, but if it is anywhere in
DC, then I don't see how you can have a 20 (no traffic) drive to the country.
If it is the case then I envy you.

Terry


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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: eric@npri6.npri.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Summary: bang
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:38:47 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

[a bunch of accounts, complaints & insults in this thread not cited]

I do so hate fear & paranoia. Not to judge either side of the debate,
let me add my experiences:

o In the mid-1970s my mother's suburban house was burglarized.

o In the late 1970s I lived in DC. The (large) house in which I lived
	was burglarized twice, perhaps by the same (somewhat incompetent)
	burglar. The second time we walked in on him. Our conversation:

	Us:	Who are you?
	Him:	I'm the inspector. Who are you?
	Us:	Never mind. We're calling the police.
	Him:	Excuse me.

	He ran out the back. The police (to their credit) arrived w/in
	5 minutes, but were not able to track him and his accomplice
	(another guy out back).

	In the same period, my car was vandalized. I moved out of the
	District not because of crime, but because the neighborhood
	was too noisy.

o This year, a friend-of-a-friend who lives in North Arlington had
	his house broken into and heavily vandalized/damaged. These
	were not inner city youths, but middle-class boys from a
	nearby high school having "fun".

I list these events just to keep things in perspective. Crime has always
been present and may get periodically better or worse. It is misleading
to presume that all criminals reside in the city. Criminality
occurs everywhere in the US, though population density + poverty +
lack of education + lack of a good upbringing will concentrate
its effects.

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: olds@helix.nih.gov (James L. Olds)
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Organization: (National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD)
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:12:05 GMT

What about the aspect of randomness though. I grew up in LA, used
to live on Cap. Hill here. I've never had a problem w. common sense
avoidance of trouble. But how far would common sense get you in 
Bosnia where a mortar round could slam into you at any moment. It
seems to me that in the last 5 years there has been a *qualitative*
change in DC whereby the violence has become so common and at the
same time so random, that it gives one the impression of no longer
having the slightest control over one's personal safety (I'm not 
particularly concerned with property here). Does this make any
sense to y'all? 
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: liuxia@wam.umd.edu
Subject: computer book store in Gaithersburg area
Originator: liuxia@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:15:12 GMT

Could some one please suggest a computer book store in 
Gaithersburg area that has big collections? 

Many thanks.

Liu Xia
From: tjb@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: ROOM IN  Rockville, MD
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:17:42 GMT
Organization: NIST

A nice room in Rockville, MD
Near Congressional Plaza
Nice Nighbourhood
pls call Susan, (301) 770 4724
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: djmurphy@wam.umd.edu (David Murphy)
Subject: Re: "The Colony of Japan"???
Organization: Binford Tools
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:50:23 GMT

In article <4019@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>   I may be posting in a wrong group, but as I couldn't find a geographically
>more appropriate group...

This is as good as any.

>   We had a lab retreat at St. Michaels, MD, this week. When we were driving
>on Rt. 50 down to Easton, we found a huge advertisement (?) board saying
>"Americhuko - The Colony of Japan". It didn't have a phone number, address
>or direction. I've been wondering what it is. Is there any place in the
>Chesapeake Bay area where Japanese started investment? Or did someone
>build it just to make another target for Japan bashing?

I wouldn't rule out Japanese investment on the Eastern shore (I recall
a story about one of the seafood processors who ships most of his stuff
to Japan)--it is just as likely as any other investment. But I suspect the
sign is an attempt at Japan-bashing.  After Japan conquered Manchuria in the 
1930s they set up a puppet government  and named the "country" Manchukuo. 
They resonance with Americhuko is hard to miss. I'd also guess that the
sign was written by someone old enough to remember the Great Pacific War
and that much of the effect is lost on people my age. 

If anyone knows the story behind this sign I hope you'd post it.

---dave

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From: seiler@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ed Seiler)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Quote of the day: DC Dept. of Public Works
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:49:44 GMT
Followup-To: dc.general
Organization: Hughes/STX

From the 9/29/92 Washington Post Style section, in an article about
"Ticketbusters", quoting Richard Ebert, spokesman for the city's Department
of Public Works, which oversees parking and the 2 million tickets written
annually:

  "Ebert argues that 'the whole purpose of writing tickets is not to raise
revenue. It's to regulate the limited amount of public curb-side space so
that it can be used equitably by all who want to use it.'"

  "It is only incidental to this fact, he says, that the city takes in $50
million a year."


Ed Seiler
seiler@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov
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Newsgroups: dc.general,dc.forsale
Subject: Honda Civic SI for sale
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:34:26 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center


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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai)
Subject: Are there any places that accepts used/broken appliances?
Originator: lai@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:40:57 GMT

Does anyone knows of any non-profit org. that takes used/broekn appliances?
I have these used broken TVs, etc., that I hope somebody can recycle/reuse.
Info much appreciated.



William


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From: rusty@krishna.cs.umd.edu (Rusty Haddock)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: X-10 remote control
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:20:32 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In-reply-to: ray@cme.nist.gov's message of 29 Sep 92 13:55:34 GMT

In article <RAY.92Sep29095535@hawaii.cme.nist.gov> ray@cme.nist.gov (Steve Ray) writes:

   >I was looking to buy some X-10 remote control modules, and am having
   >one heck of a time finding any retailers in the area who carry them.
   >My ONLY hit at this point is Security Showcase way down toward

Haven't look very hard, have we? :-)

You friendly, neighborhood Radio Schlock sells 'em.  Two or three times a
year they put the critters on sale and that's when I usually stock up.

Sears used to sell the X-10 modules with their name years ago.  They were
usually 'tween the light fixtures and the hardware (Tim Allen) departments
in most stores I have been in.  Alas, Sears' prices were VERY retailish at
the time.  Unfortunately I don't know if you can still get anything X-10ish
from Sears anymore.  Check out their catalogs.

DAK Industries(?) sells most all of the modules and controllers via mail
order.

Dig up a copy of Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar Magazine (usually listed as
"The Computer Applications Journal") and you should find around a half-dozen
suppliers, some with full-page ads, in each issue.

Hope this is of some help to you fellow X-10'ers out there!

	-Rusty-
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: electro@access.digex.com (Gary Ehrlich)
Subject: Re: Quote of the day: DC Dept. of Public Works
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:08:03 GMT


>It's to regulate the limited amount of public curb-side space so
>that it can be used equitably by all who want to use it.'"

Gee, it seems to me that using "the boot" on those with lots of tickets
flies in the face of this principle.  Few things irk me more than seeing
a perfect parking space in front of my destination occupied by a booted
car.  I say TOW 'EM!  

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From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Warner Theatre
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:19:06 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division

Hi all,

I have tickets for the Rippingtons / Larry Carlton show at the
Warner Theatre on October 24th. I need advice as to best methods
of transportation/parking, etc. I have never been to the Warner,
but I believe it's only a couple of blocks away from the Metro
Center metro station. Is this correct?

Since the concert starts at 8:00 pm, I'm not sure it will be over
before the metros shut down. So my options are

1. Gamble and metro both ways
2. Drive down before the show and hunt for parking
3. Drive down earlier in the day, park as close as I can, then
   later on take the metro to the show and hope my car is still
   there afterwards.

Which is best? Is there parking available close to Warner Theater?

BTW, I might be having a Rippingtons concert party / BBQ beforehand,
so any netters who are also going to the show will certainly be
invited.

Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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From: forestel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (J. Lauren Forestell)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Where to purchases spices
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:25:22 GMT
Reply-To: forestel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (J. Lauren Forestell)
Distribution: dc
Organization: David Taylor Model Basin

Bulk spices are available at the Bethesda Coop on MacArthur Blvd. @
Seven Locks Road in Cabin John.
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:34:14 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <25SEP199206280779@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep23.190023.10821@metter.fmpmis.metter.com>, chris@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Chris Mathes) writes...
> 
> There's no need for any average-sized male to fear mugging if he
> projects a sense of being attentive to his surroundings. The

Maybe so at the office, but lets drop you of on the eastern side of DC
and see how well you do.    And even if your statement were true, it smacks
of 'to hell with women or the elderly, I'm ok so there is no problem'.

Punks with guns are spilling out of the city and into the surrounding burbs,
cars are hijacked from "average sized males" almost daily.   

How about taking your head out of the sand to see what's going on.

Terry


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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: X-10 remote control
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 02:12:49 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: dc

In article <RAY.92Sep29095535@hawaii.cme.nist.gov> ray@cme.nist.gov (Steve Ray) writes:
>I was looking to buy some X-10 remote control modules, and am having
>one heck of a time finding any retailers in the area who carry them.
>My ONLY hit at this point is Security Showcase way down toward
>Clinton, MD. Here I am way up in Gaithersburg, MD, just about as far
>away from there as I can get and still be in the same metropolitan
>area. Isn't there somewhere that sells these things?

Radio Shack and Sears both sell them, as does Hechingers (sometimes).

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From: 02h@oasys.dt.navy.mil (CDR Fred C. Wyse)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Looking for Carousels!
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:07:39 GMT
Reply-To: 02h@oasys.dt.navy.mil (CDR Fred C. Wyse)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

My young son (2 yo) has taken a fancy to riding on carousels.  He really
likes the "horseys" that "go up and down"! 8-)!!  We've found several
in the area -- the one at Glen Echo is really marvellous.

To add variety to weekend outings, can anyone recommend other parks
that have carousels and things like that?

Thanks in advance.  E-mail to me.  I'll forward a compilation to anyone
who expresses an interest.

						 Sincerely,
						 Fred Wyse
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:59:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.190023.10821@metter.fmpmis.metter.com> chris@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Chris Mathes) writes:
>packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>
>>That's it. My entire history as a victim.
>
>Hmmm.  I lived in DC from 1968 to 1988.  In that time:
>
>-I was beaten up several times by black kids for being white.
>-My family's apartment was burgularized three times.
>-My father's business was burgularized once.
>-The window on my father's new car was smashed with a rock.

I lived in Brunswick, Maine (pop. approx. 20,000) from 1970 to 1987.
In that time:

-I was beaten up several times by other white kids for being smaller than them.
-My family's house was burglarized once.
-My father's business was burglarized several times.
-The window on my car was shot out with a pellet gun.

Brunswick is a medium-sized coastal town in Maine.  It does not have a crime
problem by anyone's standards.

The point: putting DCs crime problem in perspective.  You can't expect
to live in DC for a long period of time without some kind of incident.
But this is true of any town.  Crime is everywhere.  If you are careful
you can probably live a rewarding and relatively safe life in the
district.  I do.

>>I'm amused at people's fears. 
>
>I'm not very fucking amused at all.

I don't let fears control my life.  That is no better than admitting that
the criminals have won.
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: schwartzman@envnet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Gene Schwartzman)
Subject: Re: Getting from DC to BWI
Originator: asdfjkl@rac2.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:05:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.031651.10759@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
>>In article 10281@asd.com, scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>>>I need to get from DC to BWI and I will not have access to a car.  I
>>>know Amtrak makes a stop at BWI.  Is there a commuter rail that makes
>>>that stop as well with more trains than Amtrak?  Are there busses that
>>>can get me from somewhere in the DC area to BWI (even if it means
>>>catching the bus from National Airport)?  All information is appreciated.
>
>On weekdays, you can take the MARC Penn Line.  It's a commuter rail
>system.  Trains leave Union Station in Washington at 6:30A, 7:05A,
>7:35A, 8:05A, 8:50A, 9:50A, 10:50A, 11:50A, 12:50P, 1:50P, 2:50P,
>3:40P, 4:10P, 4:32P, 4:50P, 5:10P, 5:25P, 5:55P, 6:45P, 7:45P and 
>9:50P.  It typically takes 30 minutes to the BWI rail station, give or
>take 5 minutes.  Call MARC at (800) 325-RAIL to confirm times.
>
>Again, note that the trains only run Monday thru Friday.

BWI runs a bus line from Greenbelt, MD.  The bus stops close to where
Route 295 (BW parkway) and 193 (Greenbelt Rd.) cross.  I believe the cost
1 way is $10-15 (not sure.. been a long time).  They will also send out
a van to pick you up from your home and drop you off at the bus and also
when you come back drop you off at your house.  This service has no charge.

You should call them to find out all of the details.  I don't have the number.


Gene
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: olds@helix.nih.gov (James L. Olds)
Subject: Re: Too many squirrels.  Not enough time
Organization: (National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:43:23 GMT

I agree, I've been noticing the same thing. Is this reflective
of the squirrel response to species overpopulation, or have
the squirrels of the area picked up the car- gene spontaneously....

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From: clark@cme.nist.gov (Steve Clark)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:28:45 GMT
	<19SEP199208112191@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>
	<1992Sep23.190023.10821@metter.fmpmis.metter.com>
	<25SEP199206280779@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Distribution: dc
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
In-reply-to: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of 25 Sep 92 10:28:00 GMT

>>>>> On 25 Sep 92 10:28:00 GMT, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) said:

Charles> There's no need for any average-sized male to fear mugging if
Charles> he projects a sense of being attentive to his surroundings.

Not!

My brother-in-law is a sturdy, 200 pound, reasonably streetwise Puerto
Rican who is virtually bald.  He wears a leather jacket.  Shall we say
he doesn't look to be an ideal target.  He and my sister were recently
mugged in Columbus, OH, which has a bit less of a crime problem than
DC.  Knowing my sister, I'm fairly confident that they were moving at
a good clip.  They were mugged by a group of 3, one acting as if he
had a gun.

Size, walking speed, appearance, attentiveness are not guarantees.
Groups and weapons can quickly overcome these seeming advantages.

-steve		clark@cme.nist.gov