From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Newsgroups: alt.abortion.inequity
Subject: cold/strep?
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:43:25 GMT
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa

Robert W. Hatcher rights
->How about this proposal:  Men who feel they have a "right" to veto a
->woman's choice to an abortion ONLY have sex with women who also feal
->this way.

I do not see how having an equil say in wether a being is born or aborted
that both had an equil say in creating is vetoing her rights. If he has
no right to veto her decision then she shouldnt have a right to veto his.
By this reasoning then she has no right to have a chid that he doesnt want
because she would be vetoing his decision so if ether decides that  they
do not want a child then that fetuse should not be carried to term.
so noone should have sex with someone who has difrin political vews at all.

I CAN SEE IT NOW!

kiss kiss, darling how do you feal about equil rights in the abortion issue?
what not the same as mine? well thats just to bad we can not have an iament
relationship. by. How you feal or think you feal about me doesnt mater one
little bit if we dont agree about how much say in this issue sarry.

GET REAL!!!

->Maybe make, no strike "make" since that implies compulsion, have both
->parties sign a legally binding contract (if such a thing is possable?)
->stating that said provider of any sperm that develops into a fetyse 
->(side step the "father" issue) gets equil say in any decision.....

oh boy we get to go threw a hell of a lot of paper work befor we can go out
with someone, after all you can never tell what a date might lead to. Then
if the outher just happens to decide to renige on the contract by taking you 
to court in order to absolve said contract and get a judge (or whoever 
decides legality) who doesnt feal that the man should have an equil say then
your scrued (no pun intended). any contracted that is not witnessed by a 
lawyer is not leagal to begin with (this goufes up estates at times>he wrote
a will but it wasnt witnesed right so its invalide). In cass you dont 
realize this->lowyers coust quit a bit of money. money that most people can
not aforded to dish out when they want to go out with someone and/or have
sex with them after all if they go on a date and it goes farther then they 
expected, she gets pregnite and they dont have a contract then that too damed
bad.

->Hmmm, time for another *analogy*?  Two people agree to consentual kissing,
->person A has a cold/strep.  Person B becomes infected and decides to
->combat the infection with medicine.  Does person A have the "fight" to
->prevent this?  Is this a choice that must be made by the couple?  Can
->person A claim are right to the continued welfare of the infection;
->what if A's beliefs exclude the use of an intervention such as antibiotics?
->(Just a thought senario)

BAD ANALOGY!! comparing having a cold or strep. to being pragnit, 
antibiotics to an abortion? person A coufes in a room, leaves. person Z 
eneters the room and catches what person A had. person A has never met
person Z. what rights does person A have concerning person Z's illness?
one does not have to be intament with someone to catch there cold or strep.
you dont even have to know them. as far as that goes a person isnt neaded as
a vecter for ether desese (in micro-biology you work with a lot of culters
including streplecocus. the person or what ever the original sample came 
from could be dead but you are still working with living cells that could
culter them selves in to your system if your resistence is low->does your 
culter have a right to determin wether you use antibiotics?) how ever for
a her to git pregnit a him is very much necessary no mater how it happens.
if this were not so then there would be no him and/or her we would all be
the sam sex or sexless->however you wish to see it.

ELF-KIN