HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sachse@owlnet.rice.edu (Eric Christopher Sachs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: XFree386-1.1 with Trident 9000
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:50:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.BvtAsJ.J2L
Organization: Rice University

Well now that XFree386 works with the 8900c, how about the
9000? The drivers I have in dos that were written a while
ago to work with an 8900 Trident chip work fine with my
9000 so I don't see why XFree386 shouldn't.  Unfortunately,
I think that XFree386 detects the type of chip I have and
says that since it is not an 8900c it won't work.  I have
tried to force it to use the 8900 chipset by including
a line in the Xconfig but it does not work nor report any
errors.  What is even wierder is that if I use the mono
version of XFree386 it detects that I have a trident chip
and uses that chipset even if I do not tell it to.  If I
do tell it to use the 8900 chipset for the mono version
in my Xconfig then it reacts in the same manner as the
color version and does not come up.

I realize that this is probably not the news group that could
best answer these questions so I was hoping someone could
mail me to tell me what newsgroups could answer this question
for me.  Thanks in advance!


Starting X386mono with Chipset not set
----------------------------------------------------------
Creating TCP socket: Invalid argument

XFree86 Version 1.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
Configured drivers:
  VGA2 (monochrome VGA):
      et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, tvga8900, generic
Trident chipset version: 0x23
VGA2: tvga8900 (mem: 512k (using 64k) numclocks: 8)
VGA2:   clocks: 25 28 45 36 57 65 51 40

< This next line only comes after the working Xsession is
  killed >
xinit:  Interrupted system call (errno 4):  Client error.
----------------------------------------------------------

Starting X386color with Chipset not set
----------------------------------------------------------
Creating TCP socket: Invalid argument
XFree86 Version 1.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
Configured drivers:
  VGA256 (256 colour SVGA):
      et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, ati, tvga8900
Trident chipset version: 0x23
Trident driver only supports TVGA8900C

	*** None of the configured devices was detected.***


Fatal server error:
no screens found


waiting for X server to begin accepting connections 
giving up.
xinit:  Interrupted system call (errno 4):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
----------------------------------------------------------

Starting X386mono or X386color with Chipset="tvga8900"
----------------------------------------------------------
Creating TCP socket: Invalid argument

waiting for X server to begin accepting connections 
giving up.
xinit:  Interrupted system call (errno 4):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
----------------------------------------------------------
From: s.telford@ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Great Groff/Nroff subsitute - only 58k (AWF)
Keywords: GROFF NROFF AWF
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:29:31 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, UK.

In article <badger.718177283@phylo>, badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu
(Jonathan Badger) writes:

> I have only a 15 MB Linux partition right now, so I have not
> installed groff (over 1MB!). Just today, however, I discovered
> AWF - The AMAZINGLY WORKABLE FORMATTER! AWF is an awk script
> that mimicks "nroff -man". Yes, I know nroff does other things

awf was ported to C by somebody else (can't remember) shortly after it
was released. This version (cawf) is (understandably) a lot faster,
still runs under DOS too and adds some extra nroff commands. I think
it was posted to comp.sources.misc or similar last year. Btw, neither
awf nor cawf were inherently limited to -man macros, but I think
tmac.an was the only macro library that came with the source.

-- 
Scott Telford, Dept of Computer Science,      electric mail: s.telford@ed.ac.uk
University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK.
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From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Compiling TIN doesn't work
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 21:55:52 PDT
Reply-To: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC, Federal Way WA

kkk@field.ichaos.nullnet.fi (Kristo Kaarlo Matias) writes:

> My porting saga continues... Now it's TIN 1.1 PL1. "make sysv" produces
> this:
> 
> signal.c: In function 'set_signal_handlers':
> signal.c:45: 'SIGBUS' undeclared (first use this function)
> [...]
> signal.c: In function 'signal_handler':
> signal.c:102: 'SIGBUS' undeclared (first use this function)
> 
> What the heck is this 'SIGBUS'? I didn't found it at /usr/include/*.
> I have Linux 0.98 and GCC 2.2.2d. I compiled TIN with -DPOSIX_JOB_CONTROL,
> is this ok?

all you have to do to get TIN to compile is to comment the SIGBUS stuff
out everywhere you see it and then 'make sysv'.  Take the defaults for
everything else.

also, you have a VERY old version of tin.  I have 1.1p4 running here and
I know there's a copy on tsx-11 and the other sites.  I think it's up to
patch 6 or 7 now.

to compile c-news it's pretty simple if you haven't gotten that far yet.
You have to do a 'bison -y' at one point, and you have to edit one file
to #include <stdio.h> to get a variable 'NOFILE' that it expects in a
different include file...other than that no problem.


     .......... Vince Skahan ..... vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ..........
    Every time that man [George Bush] opens his mouth, the price goes up.
                            - local talk-radio caller about Mr 'read my lips'
                               and his budgets

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rob@netcom.com (Robert Rogers)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:04:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.123003.14688@nobeltech.se> ppan@nobeltech.nobeltech.se (Per Andersson) writes:
>>	My college looked into geting Oracal. It alone cost more then their 
>>ENTIRE software budget FOR THE WHOLE YEAR!! Not the kind of thing I'll
>>be buying soon. 

>Serious software cost money. Oracle is a real database system, and as other 
>real systems such as VMS:s rdb, Ingres, Sybase etc. has a large development
>budget which needs to be coverred. Oh, so Dbase is not expensive? Well, try
>to use it with clients from VMS,MVS and Unix, at the same time....
>
>Oh, well, for a cheap database facility under Unix, try dbm/gdbm.
>

Another one is /rdb (a better dbm). They also have a cool X version called
 /rdbX V2.0 that can do anything = $495 for 1, $2495 for 8. 

Mail rdb@rsw.com for info.

I just use the stuff

Rob
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: Question about 4.1 Jump Table
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:29:20 GMT

Eric J. Schwertfeger (maniac@hammond.cs.unlv.edu) wrote:
: First of all, what is it? :-)  I noticed that the HJ root system
: mentioned that it had been compiled with it, but I don't know what
: it is.  Is it a standard feature that all future linux versions 
: will have, or is it a derivation of the current linux?
: 
: What are the pros and cons of using it?

Jump table refers to the way the shared libraries (libc and libm)
work.  Functions in the libraries are called indirectly through a
'jump-table'.  It is intended to achieve the same results as dynamic
linking but is not as complex (some might say sophisticated).

The advantages are that library bugs are automagically fixed in all
programs when a new library is installed and you don't have to keep
multiple versions of the same library around.  The disadvantages are
slight run-time overhead because of the indirect calls and the library
is more complicated to build and maintain.

The 4.1 means that it is the first update to the fourth major version
of the libraries.

David
-- 
David Engel                        Optical Data Systems, Inc.
david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 16:37:28 CET
From: BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New SLS is on tsx-11.mit.edu

ok fine.. but where to look on tsx-11 for this new SLS..
for me its a real pain in the A#$21  to keep doing ftp via a mail server.
please tell where you post things to.. makes my life easier and others.
barry.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: enewton@uucp (Eric Newton x2092)
Subject: WIZARD question: 3rd party object files under linux?
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!srg!enewton
Organization: means "in a rut"
Distribution: comp
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:23:09


Q: Is it possible get 3rd party object files (and libraries) to work
   under linux?

Background:

I work for a company that develops desktop applications with Motif and
Oracle on SCO Unix.  I would like to use linux for initial development
and port over to SCO near delivery.  If you've ever tried to configure
Emacs with X windows for SCO, you know that the GNU programs don't
work very nicely under SCO.

We have a source license for Motif, so I have that available for
Linux.  We only have the vendor supplied Oracle libraries, however.
Is there any way I can get these libs to work on Linux?

I do not need or want the Oracle SERVER under Linux, just the client
libraries.

I have several possibilities:

	1) Use the Xenix emulation and get Xenix libs from Oracle

	2) Use the Xenix emulation approach and develop a SCO emulation.

	3) Use a "robotussin" type program from the old gnu binutils
	   to convert the COFF files into Linux a.out files.  Modify
	   ld to link in COFF files into Linux a.out files.  This is
	   bound *NOT* to work, since it is too easy.

	4) Disassemble the .o files and re-assemble them on Linux.
	   Since the function call interface is probably different, I
	   will have to massage the function interfaces with awk/perl.
	   Since the assemblers are different, I will have to translate
	   the differences.

Anyone have any other hacks/kludges that might work?  From the list I
have, you can see that nothing is too silly.

-Eric
--
Remember to mail to: 	uunet.uu.net!srg!enewton    "The more you complain,
<or>			enewton@oswego.oswego.edu    the longer God lets you
<or>			enewton@access.digex.com     live."
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: PETM@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de
Subject: NE2000 device driver ?
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU CLAUSTHAL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:53:29 GMT

Hello,
I've heard that somebody is working on a device driver for Novell's
NE2000 Ethernet cards. I'm strongly interested in this because an WD8013
doesn't seem to work along with my SPEEDSTAR 24.
 
So, where are the cracks?
 
Thomas Mueller (petm@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "11-OCT-1992 23:22:10.46" <nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
Subject: Problem with XFree86 v1.1
Reply-To: nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:20:22 GMT


Since I have updated to XFree86 v. 1.1 imake sometimes failed to generate
Makefiles. Here's an example of the xmkmf's output after calling it in
/usr/src/X11/xlyap:
|
|In file included from /usr/X386/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl:892, from :3:
|/tmp/IIf.a04009:9: invalid preprocessor directive name
|imake: Exit code 33.  Stop.
|
I can't say anything about the invalid preprocessor directive name because
the temporary file always is deleted.
This error occurs with several other Imakefiles (e.g. Tgif 2.12) but with the
betatest version all worked fine.
So, what's wrong with the new imake (or configuration files)?

Any ideas?

Please answer to: nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de

Andreas
From: jhelberg@nl.oracle.com (Joost Helberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: I'd really like a *COMPRESSED* backup...
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:23:40 GMT
Organization: Oracle Europe
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

haible@ma2s2.uucp (Bruno Haible) writes:
: > I managed to get the multi-volume tar business to work under Linux.
: > To back everything up, I do:    tar -cMvpf /dev/fd0 +same-owner +totals /
: > I just can't seem to get the -Z option to work along with the -M option.
: 
: Try using tar twice: once for compressing, once for putting the stuff onto
: your disks. For example:
: 
:      tar cvfz /tmp/usr.bin.tar.Z /usr/bin
:      tar cvfM /dev/fd0 /tmp/usr.bin.tar.Z
This will work, but you need temp. space when creating the archive, but
when restoring it too! The last thing is not what you want!

try:

tar cvfz - <files> | fdio w /dev/fd0H1440

and

fdio r /dev/fd0H1440 | tar xvfz - <files> 


fdio is a simple tool, just read/writes from/to the device
mentioned and writes/read to standard output. It asks for
floppies on /dev/tty.
Someone posted the source a while ago, I will post it again if anybody
wants too.


--  
   Joost Helberg                                Rijnzathe 6
   jhelberg@oracle.nl                           NL-3454 PV De Meern
   jhelberg@nl.oracle.com                       The Netherlands

   Oracle Europe BV                             Product Line Development	
   Phone: +31 3406 94211                        Fax:   +31 3406 65609
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kenney@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Kenney)
Subject: Re: Backing Up Linux
Keywords: backups, disk, multi-volume, tar
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:03:33 GMT

The following gnu tar command has always worked for me (your mileage 
may vary :-)

	tar -c -v -L 1440 -f /dev/fd1  file ...

/dev/fd1 is my 3.5" drive.  You will be prompted for the next volume
once 1440 blocks have been written.

Hope this helps.

----
Mike Kenney
UW Applied Physics Lab
mikek@apl.washington.edu
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ANSWER: Re: Fixing mount.
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:59:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct11.185903.16082
Distribution: na
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

Try my bootable rootdisk on tsx-11 under pub/linux/GCC/rootdisk.

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave)
ReplyTo: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: unexpected interrupt?
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.18 $
Organization: None
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:09:38 +0000


In article <1992Oct4.080658.24234@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:

> >Sorry if I missed it, but is the fix to the "unexpected interrupt"
> >problem in .98 just to bump up the HD_DELAY?
> 
> No, the fix is this one-line "patch" to linux/kernel/blk_drv/hd.c (at
> the end of the read_intr() function):
> 
> ----- "patch" -----
>   	if (i > 0) {
>   		SET_INTR(&read_intr);
>   		sti();
>   		return;
>   	}
> + 	(void) inb_p(HD_STATUS);
>   #if (HD_DELAY > 0)
>   	last_req = read_timer();
>   #endif
>   	do_hd_request();
>   	return;
>   }
> ----- "patch" -----
> 
> That is, add the "(void) inb_p(HD_STATUS)" line.  Don't try to run the
> above through patch - do it by hand, or wait for the first "official"
> patch to 0.98 which has this and some other patches (possibly out later
> today). 
> 
> In case somebody wonders what happened to the hd-driver between 0.97.pl6
> and 0.98: I removed the status-checking after reading the controller RAM
> buffer.  Reading the status could (on some hardware with a fast disk)
> result in an acknowledge of the *next* interrupt, which linux would then
> wait in vain for.

On IDE drives, there is an alternate status register (0x3f6 I think, though
my manuals are at work). It's provided for just this problem - reading the
alternate status register will not ack pending interrupts.
 
> The above patch does read the HD_STATUS register - but it does so only
> after we have gotten all the interrupts we expect from the current
> read-request.  So the above should (and does) fix the drives that need
> the inb() while not breaking anything else. 
> 
> 0.98 also has some other changes to hd.c, but those are mostly minor
> reorganizations of the read/write interrupt handlers.
> 
> 		Linus
> 
> 
--
Jim Segrave (Segrave Software Services)     jes@grendel.demon.co.uk

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: csh for Linux (pardon my innocence!)
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:54:37 GMT


Greetings Linuxland!

I'd bet money that this is a FAQ but I've just been involved in a
tiresome flame war in alt.politics.democrats.d so I'm a little 
battle weary... it's also 2:00am (be kind).

Can anyone refer me to a csh clone for Linux?  I like the sh version
but csh is better suited to my style of computing.  Whatever the
reasons, I'd very much appreciate any information on this matter.

C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: Linux on disc
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:03:42 GMT

   From: wmitchel@fergie.dnet.ge.com (Bill Mitchell)
   Date: 9 Oct 92 12:18:36 GMT

   QUESTION: I do not have FTP access, what can I do to get linux?

   ANSWER: Try to contact a friend on the net with those access, or try
   mailserver/ftpmail server otherwise contact tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU......

Gee.... I didn't realize I had been listed in the Linux FAQ this way.  
You can send me mail if you like, but I get so much mail and I am so
busy these days that I may put your mail my "to deal with later" folder,
and so it may quite a while (in extreme cases, weeks) before I get to
your request.  Even then, I will probably just point you to an ftp
server, since I simply don't have the time to help all people who want
Linux and who don't have FTP access.  Sorry about that, but that's just
way it goes.....

						- Ted
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Chicken and egg: How was the first linux gcc binary created??
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:57:20 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Keywords: gcc linux egg chicken soup

In article <1992Oct10.145501.1695@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.124926.12423@engr.uark.edu> tep@engr.uark.edu writes:
>>
>>   As I was standing in the shower this morning I was thinking (I do
>>my best thinking in the shower) "How did Linus generate that first
>>gcc binary?"  This was prompted by a newbie question about compilers
>>where he said something like "I can't compile a compiler until I have
>>a compiler to compile it."
>>
>>   I guess Linus is the only one who can answer this but I figured it
>>would also be of general interest.  So Linus, how'd ya do it???
>
>I think I can answer this for Linus. The answer is cross-compiling.
>After you decided the format of a.out and the system call interface,
>you had to choose a compiler to port. Linus chose gcc, of course.
>Linus only uses the best. Then you wrote the C library. You now could
>cross-compile gcc from another machine. First build gas, gld, gar
>and granlib running on host machine for Linux. Then
>
>1. build gcc for host machine.
>2. build gcc running on host machine but generating codes for Linux.
>3. use the cross-compiling gcc to build gcc for Linux.
>
>gcc 1.xx doesn't support those. You have to modify the gcc source
>code. Before gcc 2.2.2, there is only some limited support. In gcc
>2.3, you will get the full support for this purpose.
>
>Hope I have made myself clear.

Since he was using MINIX as his development base, it seems to me that he
could have brought up a first pass of gcc using the MINIX compiler.  The
kinkiest part of it would have been the makefiles, but he could have also
brought up gnu make under MINIX.  I believe that he was running the 386
32 bit patches for MINIX, so I would think that he would have had an ld
that could build a 386 protected mode image, since he built Linux kernels
that way.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: can i erase lib*2.* in /lib
Date: 7 Oct 1992 16:27:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu



 i just install jump table 4.1 and all the new system binaries
so kindly provided by Hlu. 

My question now is, can i erase all the old libraries????
Should I make links from the old 2 libraries to the new 4's
so that if an old application goes looking for them in will
look in the new jump libs???

thanx for your help.....and all the great work you guys do :)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: tin2.0pl2 porting guide for linux
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:10:12 GMT

I screwed up...the Subject should say 'trn' (ie...threaded rn).

-- 
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    vince@atc.boeing.com (work)		    vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (home)
             *** Oxymoron of the day - "decision in progress" ***
From: bobh@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Bob Headrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need Xconfig for Toshiba 4400SXC
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:32:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino


I have just installed the SLS release 0.98.1 and am trying to get x
working on my Toshiba 4400SXC.  I've read throught the docs, but can't
seem to figure out what the xconfig file should look like for this
machine.  Any pointers would be appreciated - a working xconfig for the
T4400SXC would be appreciated even more!

Thanks in advance.

Bob Headrick
bobh@cup.hp.com