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From: mwasson@minnie.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: roseanne
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:13:03 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii

>kitten takes a drink of her beer...."to a time when having gay
>characters on t.v. won't be a big enough deal to mention!"
>
>and the glass goes into the fireplace with a satisfying crash.

Gecko-boy adds an enthused "I second that toast," and promptly
dashes off several shots of JD. <crash!> <crash!> <crash!>

"And," he adds, "earlier this year Phyllis Schlafly's son came out
of the closet ... and took Dan Quayle to task for his 'family
values' nonsense.  Maybe, just maybe, things are changing."

Gecko-boy aka Mike        (hi Spacey!)
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Mike Wasson    ---   U.Hawai'i, Manoa   ---   Fat Messiah Games
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"At the beginning of the movie, they know they have to find each
other, but they head off -- in opposite directions" (Laurie Anderson)
"Iko-o, iko-o, isshoni iko-o-oh..." (Shonen Knife)
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From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re: Science and goose-hugs:  Are they compatible?  If so, which way?
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:46:00 +0000


goose-hugs? I think they're all feathery and a bit tickly. No goosing 
today - but certainly hugs.
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| Ommmmmm, said the lift                    |maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk |
| Organisation: Me? You're joking, right?   |maryb@cix.compulink.uucp  |
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Democracy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:20:34 GMT


>>"email your [StM's] address to me....i am going to chambanacon this
>>weekend...i will get a copy and send it to you...."
>>
>>kitten is ever helpful when it comes to dispersing information.
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^
>Frood wonders, "Is that like dispersing a crowd? ... 'O.K. now.  The
>show's over, there's nothing for you information here.  Go home.'"

>*chuckle*

>"Or beaming it out into space, widest dispersion?"  :-)


"yep!  beam me out, scottie...we need some intelligent life out here!
i also dispens information....come and take your knowledge pill...."

kitten grins at frood and gives him a hug.
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Subject:  Pizza pty report
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:49:43 GMT

 A festive group of Callahanians and friends gathered at Gypsy's 
for a Pizza Feast!  Rowan (Gypsy), Beth, Aahz, Stef, Gary, 
Henry, Russell, Mandelbear, Colleen, Lynn, Jilara and Alaric 
ate the following delicious pizzas representing various sacred 
toppings.  

1. mushrooms, olives and onions  (Gypsy and Beth got hungry 
before anyone arrived with toppings)

2. half  pineapple, ham and almond (Gary) and the other half  
hot italian sausage, garlic and artichoke (Aahz).  Gary brought 
mango nectar to drink with his Hawaiian as the appropriate 
sacred drink.

3. homemade pesto with mozzarella and feta pizza.  (Gypsy. I 
told you this was a California party after all!)

4. Sausage, mushrooms, garlic, pepperoni, anchovies, cheese 
next appeared as devotees combined their ingredients.  (various)

5. a modified Hawaiian with Canadian bacon, olives, pineapple 
and almonds. (Jilara and Alaric)  (Hmm, did this one have 
anchovies as well?)

6. Yuppie pizza.  The toppings were sun-dried tomatoes, fresh 
basil, garlic and oregano and tomato-basil sauce on whole wheat 
crust.  (Lynn)

7. dessert pizza.  Chocolate topped with white chocolate and 
marzipan!  (Henry) 

Much visiting and silliness, good music and comradarie were 
had by those able to attend.  We missed some friends, especially 
SEA who couldn't come after having helped plan the affair.  This 
is a sure sign that we will have to do it again sometime!  Also, no 
one came up with a Weber so the mysteries of barbeque pizza 
were not experienced.  (Robbie where are you!)

This report written by Rowan (Gypsy Woman) and any mistakes 
are my own.  Thanks to everyone who came and advanced the 
debate of the one-true-pizza with such amiable good humour.

Rowan Fairgrove
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Where does the time go?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:28:04 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <9211181940.AA02379@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM>, dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David) writes:
=     I'm signing up for an astronomy class with my wife at the local college.
=It will be fun to find out what's new since I was in University....  And the
=professor is a gentleman named Fraknoi, who I'm told has some connection to
=NASA's SETI project, something I wouldn't mind knowing a lot more about.

StM points out, "Er, NASA no longer HAS a `SETI' project.  SETI disappeared in
the last round of budget proposals.  No great loss since something that looks
to be identical showed up under a different name.  Can't remember what the new
name is offhand, though."
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: A tiny problem, welcome back, and cake report!
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:06:09 GMT

Danger Mouse sighs. "I thought the problem was getting better, but it
just seems to have slipped again. Today I am reading posts from yesterday,
mixed with posts up to ten days old... all mixed in totally random order.
I've _finally_ seen /*'s introduction, two days after e-mailing him a
somewhat bemused welcome message.

"Also, welcome back Velvet! Good to know you're here again, even though
all I've seen are some replies to your return message...

"Anyway, if people are wondering why I'm so disoriented, or are awaiting
replies from me for any reason, please be patient! I'm currently smeared
out over almost two weeks of time.

"Lastly for now, but not least, thanks to everyone who wrote to inform me
what a bundt pan is! Someone got in early enough that I realised I actually
own one of the things before I started baking. And Merri, where are you?"

DM spots the provider of yummy recipes and gives her a big hug. "Thanks
for posting that recipe! I now have lots of black death cake to feed
people. It turned out beautifully, and tastes delicious! The yoghurt gives
it a nice tang."

- Danger Mouse.
From: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another introduction...
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:08:59 GMT
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing

In article <Mf2R8Hi00awS07DF5q@andrew.cmu.edu> ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively) writes:

>	Relgion again...  Oh well it was bound to show up.  
>	I am a Christian and I do my best to live up to the ideals and
>teachings.  I do my best to love everyone and to my knowledge I hate
>noone.  I am not perfect and I often wind up hurting people almost never
>through conscious intent(I am not perfect)  But usually through
>thoughtless.

"I can definitely appreciate what you say." /* puts down his purply
Grape Crush.  "Although I am not a Christian, you sound like the
type of person who is more capable of showing understanding and
acknowledgement of 'being human.'  I, too, can make mistakes, 
although I do *my* best to live up to my life principles - which
for me, are mostly Buddhist or humanist in nature."

[deletions - a thoughtful discussion of his personal religious belief - 
  deleted for space]

>	I'll leave on this thought.  Fundamental Christianity and Buddhism are
>very similar in one respect.  Fundamental Christians believe that all
>people deserve to go to hell for eternity.  Buddhist belive this has
>already happened(Well not quite for eternity just for a very very very
>long time)

"I just want to point out that Buddhism, like Christianity, has
developed a lot of 'flavors' over the years.  Also, a lot of people
in 'Western Cultures' are introduced to Buddhism (or Taoism, or
Confucianism, etc) through the writings of translators - and some
of these may not quite have gotten the full idea"

"From what I have read, learned, and discussed, I haven't really
encountered the idea that Buddhists believe we are already in hell.
In fact, their concepts of heavens, earth, hells, and nirvana are
not really comparable to Christianity."

"Many Westerners get a little confused with the idea of 'dukkha'
which I have often seen translated as 'suffering' - maybe that's
where people get the idea that Buddhists think we're already in
'hell' - but the concept is not the same."

"But there are similarities in Christianity, Buddhism, and many
other religions - emphasis on striving to be a better person, on
caring for others, on making the world a better place because of
what you do, rather than in spite of it.  Although not all 
religions state this explicitly, they seem to be inherent in
them, and in the way many believers practice them."

/* pauses.  "I am *no* expert in Buddhism, or Christianity; so
I may have made some misinterpretations.  But I do have some
experience or background in both religions, and that is what
I base my previous words on."

"But I appreciate your thougthfulness.  Mike, his next drink
-- 
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Mike Holmes       mjmh@crsa.bu.edu           "Happiness Will Prevail!"
Boston University Department of Geography (a truly GREAT place to work!)
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: An Introduction
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:39:03 GMT


Hi Wave!  (Wave Hi - ? ... sorry!)

I'm Splash - not really navy, but marine oriented (a biology postgrad
actually).  Welcome to the Place!  BTW, this _is_ VR, so you only get VR
drunk (if you're so inclined) - age limit?  What age limit?  The next
drink's on my tab, Mike!

Ciao!

Splash!

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***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
Subject: Of Jack Daniels & UNIX Manuals...
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:59:31 GMT

Gecko-boy wakes up hungover.  He has a throbbing headache and only
a dim recollection of the events of the previous evening.  However,
stumbling out of bed he finds several kind notes that have been
left for him, assuring him that all is well at the Place.  Oh
well, it must be something up with the uhunix spooler.

Hope all's well with y'all...

Gecko-boy aka Mike             (hi Spacey!)
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Mike Wasson    ---   U.Hawai'i, Manoa   ---   Fat Messiah Games
mwasson@uhunx.uhcc.hawaii.edu
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"Fool! Do you think I would fight you alone?!?" -- Skeletor
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From: randolph@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: The Nightstalker explains--and Caithelin has her say...
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:42:13 GMT
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
NNTP-Posting-Host: cognito.ebay.sun.com
In-reply-to: li@Data-IO.COM's message of Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:28:41 GMT

Randolph looks a Liralen with surprise and delight.  "Did you
know--your idea of right is very much like what might be called a
loving attitude?" and smiles.

"That's all folks--see you next week!"

__R
From: pechever@phakt.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:30:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <9702@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP] seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
]	"Those who think Reality is a matter of opinion are invited to
]debate the matter with an oncoming bullet. The bullet's answer will be
]swift, decisive, and utterly final."
[deletia]

Impu-Sebek grins maniacally, pulls out a large gun, and shoots himself in the
temple.  He then pulls a pearl from his hair at the aiming point and offers
it to Sea Wasp amidst boos and catcalling.
"Ok, so I was cheating :)"
"Seriously, tho, I regard that retort as rather absolutist.  Fictons are an
amusing concept for me to play with, but I certainly would hesitate to trust
/use them in the physical world.  But that reason alone is not enough for me
to believe in a rigid, bound-by-laws-of-physics universe.  There's always
something else, something beyond the current model; that's what I like about
science.  But sometimes people take Ockham's Razor too seriously...some of
us like a little stubble hyar and thar :)"
Impu-Sebek bends to his baliset, and streamers of light issue along with
sound, weaving a cloak of light that surrounds the Sea Wasp for a lingering
moment.
As the light fades, the Sea Wasp finds a steaming mug of something murky
in front of him.
Impu-Sebek smiles quietly and declines to say exactly what is in the mug, but
-- 
"They robbed from the rich...and gave to the CRIMINALLY INSANE!!" -Ren & Stimpy
"Necro-Bestial Anal Buttsex!?" -GWAR  /   Two suns in the sunset... -Pink Floyd
"She was SO sensitive...so I squicked her."                    DikuMUDs forever
Stop the War on Rights...legalize drugs           Email: pechever@chaph.usc.edu
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From: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum)
Subject: Re: An Introduction
Reply-To: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:03:37 GMT

Grinning Hugely, the Troll scutters out from under the table--

Salutations, son, and as usual the answer to most of your questions, 
in no particular order, are:

1. Be your usual polite self.

2. You bring them with you with you.

3. Yes.

4. No, this is a sanctuary of sorts.

BTW, rest of the gang, The Troll will be at the Caltech realspace
for several hours starting around 2:00 PM on 25 November.  Hopefully
The Wave can arrange for space, dinner, and a full tank of gas for the 
yellow beastie so we can get to R/C in reasonably good order---

Hopefully we can warm up some roast beast and toast for the holiday.

--troll
 
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From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another introduction...
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:31:47 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
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>/* has always been a bit unhappy about the fact that he discovered
>Heinlein so late in life.
>"I didn't even *know* about RAH until I picked up 'Stranger' in college.
>I'd been reading sf for a long time, so I don't have a clue as to what
>took me so long."

"You poor soul ...  well, I hope you read some of RAH's good novels
eventually?"  Abner slyly looks over at Kitten, waiting for the explosion.

>"The first science fiction book I remember picking up was a trilogy
>by John Christopher - I think the first book was 'THe City of Gold
>and Lead' or something like that.  This was sometime in early grade
>school.  I was fascinated by it, though, and picked up everything of
>his the library had - then moved on to Bradbury, then Asimov... 
>by then I was hooked!"

The books of the trilogy were "The White Mountains", "The City of Lead and
Gold", and ...  hmmm ... I forget the third.  I have it at home, and will
check later.  This was an early favorite of mine as well!

"You wouldn't happen to have read 'The Rains of Eridan' by H. M. Hoover,
would you?  One of my favorites ... I've been looking for a copy for years."

>>>"Thanks, Abner!  I think I need another drink after that Purple-People
>>>Eater scare!!"

>>Here you go.  I'm sure it'll taste mauvelous!

>"AUGH!  What an awful pun!"

>/* gets a sly grin on his face.

>"Many more that bad and I'll get violetly ill!!"

"Say many more like that and you'll get purple upset at you!"

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From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: superman
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:21:58 GMT

[Michael Schiffer talks about evocation of emotion on the deaths of Supergirl
and Superboy, and on the earlier "death" of Superman]

"One of my favourite mags is Love And Rockets, after which the band named
themselves...it's written and drawn by two brothers, Jaime and Gilberto
Hernandez.  And it's extraordinarily well-done.

"A few years back they did the 'Death of Speedy' storyline.  Speedy was just a
normal person, as most of the characters are in L&R these days.  By that I
mean, he didn't have superpowers or superhuman abilities of any kind.  Although
he did only have one eyebrow that went all the way across his forehead.

"His death was led up to, as he was rejected by more and more of his friends,
but how exactly it happened was never elucidated--the actual death was done in
a very understated way.

"Around this time, Doug Ramsey of the New Mutants(Marvel Comics)also died.
Apparently(I wasn't reading a whole lot of Marvel right then), it was a very
dramatically-done death, everyone weeping, a big funeral, etc.  I know of this
because one reader of L&R wrote in and said that he hated the pathos of the
Marvel Comics version, and appreciated the death of Speed more than that of
Doug Ramsey, because it was more realistic to him.  And I still think that the
Hernandez Brothers are unequalled in some aspects of storytelling in the 'comic
book' medium.

"It doesn't particularly affect me at all that Superman 'died'.  Whoopee ding.
I've never had faith in comic book character deaths since they brought back
Jean Grey, who had one of the best deaths in comic history, and one or two
false resurrections.  Or maybe it happened even earlier.  Although I must admit
that one of the best 'resurrections' was in Alpha Flight, after Guardian died
and then came back with an outlandish story of being saved by aliens from
Jupiter and replaced with mechanical parts--and then he turned out to be an
android built to take his place and betray them from within.  An obvious spoof
on all those stupid miraculous saviour stories.

"Feel free to disagree with me, though.  But the above probably contains the
seeds of most of the reasons why I stopped, by and large, reading standard
comics, and now stick to L&R, Sandman, and a few others.  (Grimjack, when it
gets back into publication...now he's died three times now, and we'll know he
will come back, but more because he's doomed to live than because he can
miraculously survive.)"

--
---Alfvaen(Looking for "October's Baby")
"Lucille was secretly thrilled when Norman sucked her toaster."
   ---B. Kliban
Current Album--The Replacements:Don't Tell A Soul
Current Read--Karen Wehrstein:Lion's Heart
From: randolph@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Democracy
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:17:12 GMT
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	<1992Nov15.103947.29082@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
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In-reply-to: mss2@quads.uchicago.edu's message of Sun, 15 Nov 1992 10:39:47 GMT

"Heinline had an enormous impact on politics through his writing.  He
did make a difference.  I think Heinline started out believing that
our democratic government could express the best of the USA.  As you
say, Michael, he became disillusioned, yet secretly, I think, he went
on hoping that our government could express the best of us, even while
watching it do no such thing.

"A number of groups have been organizing modern summaries and methods
of politics.  The League of Women Voters even ran a 'take back the
system' drive.  On the liberal side I know of the League, Public
Citizen (led by Ralph Nader), and Common Cause.  There's a
conservative group whose name escapes me--their leader was interviewed
on Fresh Air with Ralph Nader--politics still makes strange
bedfellows!  And there's the neutral Center for National Independence
in Politics--Project Vote Smart."

__Randolph Fritz  sun!cognito.ebay!randolph || randolph@ebay.sun.com