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From: forrest@nobozo.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Jon Forrest)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Under Windows NT
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:35:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

Date: 7 Oct 92 18:29:27 GMT
Message-Id: <1avaa7INNrs@agate.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec

The research group I'm in here at UC Berkeley is interested in running
Windows NT on DEC Alpha's. I've done some preliminary investigation
and I've found something that troubles me. This is that it appears that
it will be difficult to run an X-server in "native mode" under WNT.
(By "native mode" I mean an X-server that has complete control
of the display and that isn't running as some kind of subwindow under
Windows, which is the way the several current products work).

If you look at the block diagrams of WNT you see that there are a
number of "protected subsystems" that run on top of the WNT
Executive. Examples of these are the Win32 and POSIX subsystems.
The diagrams I've seen make it appear that these subsystems are
all equal. At first glance, I though it would be possible to run
an X-server (and Xlib) under the POSIX protected subsystem, or maybe
to even create a new protected subsystem that I'd call the X-server
protected subsystem.

It turns out that these assumptions are wrong, according to people
I've talked to at DEC. What appears to be true is that the Win32
subsystem is more equal than others and always controls the display
for all protected subsystems. Also, the POSIX subsystem does its I/O
through a tty emulator, which is under the control of the Win32 subsystem.
Furthermore, Microsoft hasn't released the API necessary to implement
a protected subsystem.

For a group like ours, which is actually looking favorably at WNT,
these details are very disappointing. It appears that the X community
will be ignored when Windows NT for Alpha comes out, assuming the
eXcursion product isn't acceptable (which may or may not be true).
People who tend to look for the negative may start accusing DEC of
another flip-flop since the X-based environment that DEC has been
promoting so heavily will be a second-class citizen under WNT.

I'd enjoy hearing people's comments about this, especially any corrections
to the way I've interpreted the facts.

-- 
Anything you read here is my opinion and in no way represents the Univ. of Cal.
Jon Forrest WB6EDM	 forrest@postgres.berkeley.edu	 510-643-6764
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XLoad/UnloadFont problems
Date: 12 Oct 92 07:28:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

Date: 9 Oct 92 18:22:08 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct9.182208.19750@miki.pictel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9210071553.AA29435@crc.sofkin.ca> jgraham@crc.sofkin.ca (Jay Graham) writes:

>   .... When
>I am finished with the remote display for a while, I free the
>GC, unload the font, destroy the window and then close the
>remote display.  

>I have discovered  that if I do the above more than once, the 
>X server on the remote grows by 2 UNIX pages (8k) each time,
>specifically after loading the font on the remote (determined by
>using "ps" and a source debugger). 

One is always on thin ice making assumptions about a server's
behavior by observing it with "ps."

But, you are doing everything correctly (unless you are messing
around with XSetCloseDownMode) so any problem is a server problem.
From: lora@askinc.ASK.COM (Lora Shirley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: OSF/Motif Meeting : October 21
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:45:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

Date: 10 Oct 92 02:52:38 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct10.025238.15956@askinc.Ingres.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


              OSF/Motif Developers Meeting: October 21

  Please join us at a jointly sponsored meeting of the OSF/Motif
  Developers Group and Drinking Society and the BayCHI OSF/Motif BOF.
  The meeting is at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, October 21

  For this meeting we welcome Luke Teyssier, who will present "Using
  ADA with the X11 Windowing System ".  Luke is a software engineer
  at ESL, a subsidiary of TRW, where he has been tasked with developing 
  GRAMMI, Generated Reusable Ada Man Machine Interface.  GRAMMI is used
  for creating X11 based Graphical User Interfaces in Ada.

  In use at ESL since 1989,  GRAMMI has been adopted as the user interface
  tool of choice by over 30 software engineers.  While the cost to
  train all of these engineers in X11 would be prohibitive, GRAMMI
  allows Ada programmers with only a cursory knowledge of X11 to
  create powerful user interfaces with  minimal coding.  GRAMMI is
  scheduled to be released commercially by the end of 1992.
  
  The meeting location is at NCD's facilities, 339 N. Bernardo in 
  Mountain View, directly off of the Central Expressway.
 


  About the Santa Clara Valley OSF/Motif groups:
  *********************************************

  The Silicon Valley OSF/Motif Developers and Drinking Society and
  BayCHI's OSF/Motif BOF (Birds-of-a-Feather) group are two Bay
  area groups that hold monthly meetings to discuss Motif
  development issues.  The topics discussed include: releases and
  features of the Motif toolkit, X11, UI builders, and products
  developed using Motif.

  Meetings are held on the third Wednesday of the month, at 7pm at
  NCD's facility at 339 N. Bernardo St. in Mountain View.  North
  Bernardo Street is located on the Central Expressway, between
  Mary and Castro Streets.

  The meetings are open to the public.  There are no membership or
  admission fees.

  A joint planning committee schedules the meetings.  If you would like to
  discuss a topic of interest to this group, please contact Lora Shirley
  415-335-5288.


  Upcoming Meeting Dates:
  ********************************************

  Wednesday, October 21:  "Using ADA with the X11 Windowing System"

  Wednesday, November 18:  OSF/Motif Developers and Drinking Revival!!
                           (Location TBA)

  December:   No meeting
  
  Wednesday, January 20, 1993
From: thorsen@stc.nato.int (Einar C. Thorsen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Sharing read/write colorcells
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:28:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL

Date: 7 Oct 92 15:11:05 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.151105.27492@stc.nato.int>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

We have an application that allocates the top half of the color table (128
to 256) for read/write color access.  We would like to be able to share some 
of these color cells with another application running on the same server 
that also uses these colors. So far, we have only been able to display the 
same color by having duplicate entries in the color table.  Does anybody
know how we can force the applications to share the same read/write entries?

Thanks, 

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From: goodrich@qdeck.com (Steve Goodrich)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Anyone ever port to Desq/X?
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:55:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA

Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 21:21:57 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct04.212157.14055@qdeck.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.os.msdos.desqview

In article <iwc4RB1w165w@gizmonic.UUCP> csthomas@gizmonic.UUCP (shane thomas) writes:
>Has anyone ever ported any existing X program of significant size 
>to Desqview/X? My boss thinks he might wanny try it with our Sparc-based
>system, and it's got me worried.
>
>thanks -
>shane

I don't know what you'd consider "significant size".  I've ported some
X programs to DESQview/X (including such programs as CBzone (battlezone), 
XConq, POV-Ray, XTrek, and XV 2.21).  I've seen or heard of other people 
porting apps like XGrasp, Xfractint, and the PMBPlus utilities.  It is 
very much "do-able".  The problems I've had have mostly been either file
name length problems (DOS allows 8 character filenames with a 3 character
extension, whereas many UNIX files are longer than that) or problems with
C code not being "clean" (such as ASSUMing that ints are 32 bits in all
cases).  Your experience will vary with the app and the C compiler you
select.

Since I work for Quarterdeck, I can't make recommendations on compilers
and such (of course we want to remain friends with the compiler vendors).
This subject of X-apps being ported to DV/X sometimes appears in the 
comp.os.msdos.desqview newsgroup, so I'm cross-posting there.

  -- Steve G.
  Quarterdeck Office Systems
  goodrich@qdeck.com


P.S.  Netters: Our Internet mail machine crashed the other day, so if you 
emailed anything to me within a week before Oct 1 you may wish to resend 
it.  Also, I'll be out of town for a couple of weeks and it may take a 
while for me to get back to you (but I try to personally answer each 
request that comes to me).
From: alpa@tsunami.mbari.org (Patrick Allen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Creating 35mm slides from screen dumps
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:47:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute

Date: 7 Oct 92 01:09:52 GMT
Message-Id: <6533@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.hp

A number of people here at the Institute have expressed a strong desire to be
able to create 35mm color slides from screen images. These could be used in
seminars, presentations, etc. The platform which would be used is an HP
7XX workstations with 19" monitors.

I guess the first question is - "Is this possible?" Is there any type of a
"camera" which would produce a slide given a postscript file or bitmap or 
some other graphic format file.

Is it more practical to use software such as xv to display the image on the
full monitor and then use an actual camera to take a picture of the display?

Does anybody out there have any experience in evaluating or using this type
of hardware / software? Any help would certainly be appreciated. Please
respond via email.

-- 
Patrick Allen (alpa@mbari.org)
Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute	  Voice:  408-647-3724
160 Central Ave, Pacific Grove, CA  93950         FAX: 408-649-8587
From: grape@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (Mike Grapevine)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Diamond Stealth & X-Window System
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:30:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 07:56:40 PDT
Message-Id: <9210151456.AA16497@spc1ed3>

HEllo,
	I am considering a video board for a PC UNIX,
and I am seriously considering the Diamond Stealth
board. Has anybody used it for running the X-Window
Systems? If so, how does it perform ?
From: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: POV raytracer - display options ?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:57:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: K.U.Leuven - Applied Economic Sciences Department

Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 11:35:57 +01
Message-Id: <1992Oct6.113109@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.graphics,comp.windows.x


When I run povray (the Persistence of Vision raytracer, V1.0) on my
RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.1, I get the following error when I specify the
'+d' display option:

% povray -ichess.pov -ochess +d

...

POV-Ray Options in effect: +d03 +fr +p -q9 -w640 -h480 -s0 -e480
-ichess.pov -ochess -l/usr/local/lib/X11/pov/include -l/usr/local/lib/X11/pov/sc
enes -l/usr/local/lib/X11/pov/samples/level1 -l/usr/local/lib/X11/pov/samples/le
vel2 -l/usr/local/lib/X11/pov/samples/level3 -l/usr/local/lib/X11/pov/samples/ma
th
Parsing...........
Displaying...
X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  72 (X_PutImage)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0xa00001
  Serial number of failed request:  231
  Current serial number in output stream:  234


I guess this happens because the xy parameters in the 'd' option are incorrect.
However, I can't find any information related to this subject in the unix docs
provided. Can somebody help me on this one ?


Thanks,


Wim Van Holder
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven          Tel: ++32 (0)16/28.57.16
Departement T.E.W.                      FAX: ++32 (0)16/28.57.99
Dekenstraat 2
B-3000 Leuven                           E-mail: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be
BELGIUM                                         fdbaq03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be
From: tim@appenzell.cs.wisc.edu (Tim Theisen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Initializing an Xaw viewport's child geometry
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:30:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

Date: 13 Oct 92 14:23:31 GMT
Message-Id: <tim.718986211@appenzell>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

halvers@procyon.crd.ge.com (peter c halverson) writes:
> I've got a graphic application that creates a "magnified" view of another
> window's contents by using a scrolling Athena viewport on an enlarged copy
> of the original window.  Unfortunately, I can't find a way to set things up
> such that the scrolling region is located anywhere other than the upper
> left corner of the underlying child, making it impossible to default to
> showing a particular region of the original window.  Peeks at the Viewport
> code seem to indicate that the Realize method is explicitly setting the
> child's position to (0,0), so explicitly setting the child's x and y
> resources are ignored.
>
> Any suggestions?  Is there some sort of callback I can set up that could do
> an explicit geometry request after the viewport is realized?

You can see any portion of the window by calling to jumpProc of the scroll
bars.  Here is a code fragment from ghostview that centers the viewport on
the page.

    Arg args[2];
    Widget pageview;	/* viewport widget */
    Widget scroll;
    float top, shown;

    scroll = XtNameToWidget(pageview, "vertical");
    if (scroll) {
	XtSetArg(args[0], XtNshown, &shown);
	XtSetArg(args[1], XtNtopOfThumb, &top);
	XtGetValues(scroll, args, TWO);

	top = (1.0 - shown) / 2.0;
	XtCallCallbacks(scroll, XtNjumpProc, &top);
    }

    scroll = XtNameToWidget(pageview, "horizontal");
    if (scroll) {
	XtSetArg(args[0], XtNshown, &shown);
	XtSetArg(args[1], XtNtopOfThumb, &top);
	XtGetValues(scroll, args, TWO);

	top = (1.0 - shown) / 2.0;
	XtCallCallbacks(scroll, XtNjumpProc, &top);
    }

Hope this helps,  ...Tim

          Tim Theisen           Systems Programmer
Internet: tim@cs.wisc.edu       Department of Computer Sciences
    UUCP: uwvax!tim             University of Wisconsin-Madison
   Phone: (608)262-0438         1210 West Dayton Street
     FAX: (608)262-9777         Madison, WI   53706
From: loo@gdwest.gd.com (Matt Loo)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Looking for shareware X-based Unix System Admin utility
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:14:27 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:09:20 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.220920.2252@gdwest.gd.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

   We're looking for a good, shareware utility for X Window based Unix system
administration.  There are alot of clients at export.lcs.mit.edu but it's
hard to distinguish which one is which performing a directory listing.
Please respond via email.

			- ThanX.

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From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5 on SGI/IRIX 4.0.5D
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:29:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Date: 8 Oct 92 18:42:58 GMT
Message-Id: <5261@bacon.IMSI.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.windows.x

Just got a new Indigo, and I need to bring up X11R5 (our software needs
it) and I'm having a bunch of problems.  I'm not familiar with the
shared library mechanism enough to know how to build the *.spec files,
and the sgiLib.rules file looks out of date (X11R4?) ...

Could someone who has done this drop me a note about what you had to do
to get things to work correctly?  Thanks.

/jordan
From: meo@hostname.austin.ibm.com (Miles O'Neal)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: IMAKE on DEC
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:49:27 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: IBM AWD

Date: 6 Oct 92 23:35:18 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct6.233518.21193@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

yuri@physics.heriot-watt.ac.UK (Yuri Rzhanov) writes:
| 
| The problem is: I need to link some unusual libraries (like
| libXpm.a, my own, etc.). On Sun, I defined them as LOCAL_LIBRARIES
| and everything was fine. But on DEC, the target depends not only
| on $(SRCS) but also on $(DEPLIBS) which are defined to be equal
| to $(LOCAL_LIBRARIES).

You can just put a line like

DEPLIB =

in your Imakefiles.

Or, if you control the Imake configuration, look at the end of the
Project.tmpl file and comment out the lines where 'NeedDefaultDepLibs'
gets defined.  You could as easily add a -DDEPLIBS to the xmkmf
command, but either of these latter approaches, while more elegant
at first glance, mean othesr will run into the same problem.  So
just add the line to the Imakefiles.
From: djgray@rodan.acs.syr.edu (David James Gray)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XtAppInitialize??
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:54:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 09:16:34 EDT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.091634.15713@newstand.syr.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hello,

	I'm having trouble with Xt[Va]AppInitialize. It doesn't seem
to honor the XmNx or XmNy values I give it.  It sets them correctly
for the shell widget but the position is not reflected on the display.
All other resources are set correctly. I _must_ be missing something very
basic here.

	Currently, each time I start up my application the toplevel
shell is placed roughly 10 pixels lower and 10 pixels further right than
it was the previous time I brought it up. I don't have trouble setting
other shell or dialog coordinates.

I'm using Motif 1.1.3 with X11R4 (NOT the OpenWindows X server) on
a SparcStation 2 with a standard 19 inch SONY (via Sun) monitor. 

Here is what I've been trying:
===============
  top_shell_w = XtVaAppInitialize( &app, APP_NAME, NULL, 0,
                                     &argc, argv, My_Fallbacks,
                                     XmNiconName, "My Icon Name",
                                     XmNtitle, title,
                                     XmNminWidth,  355, 
                                     XmNmaxWidth,  455,
                                     XmNminHeight, 355,
                                     XmNmaxHeight, 355,
                                     XmNx, 0,
                                     XmNy, 0,
                                     NULL ) ;
===============


Please reply to djgray@rodan.acs.syr.edu.

Thanks in Advance!!

Dave Gray
djgray@rodan.acs.syr.edu
From: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: MIT X11 under OpenWindows 3.0
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:48:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Date: 9 Oct 92 22:12:19 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct9.221219.8656@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.openlook,comp.windows.open-look

Usenetters,

I have a requirement for two X11 files:

/usr/local/lib/X11/libX11.a
/usr/include/X11/X.h


I need them to compile free "SUIT" software (a GUI front-end),
which requires these two X11 files.

Does anyone know where I can get them?  (I do have FTP access).

I have SunOS 4.1.2 with OpenWindows v3 which has its own
implementation of X.  I cannot find the associated X11 files
in OpenWindows v3.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

I will post the results if there is any interest.

Steve Davidson
steved@cfcl.com
From: handeli@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (David I Handeli)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: window behavior
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:29:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Date: 12 Oct 92 15:57:03 GMT
Message-Id: <138733@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am running a Sun SPARC station with an X-server. I experience
a problem when I run either twm or mwm. I have both a color
and monochrome monitor on my Sun. When I have the mouse on the color
monitor, everything is fine. When I put the mouse on the monochrome
monitor, the color screen whites out. Does anyone have any insight
on what is the difficulty? thanks in advance.
From: ftms!brown@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: OW 3.0 ce_db_build problem
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:54:29 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

Date: 6 Oct 92 19:50:31 GMT
Message-Id: <360@ftms.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.open-look


Thanks to Larry Virden for supplying the ce_db_{build,merge}.1 man pages.

With info in hand, I started to experiment.  So, I did the following:

ftms.BRN <72> ce_db_build user -to_ascii cetables.ascii -db_file cetables
ftms.BRN <73> ce_db_build user -from_ascii cetables.ascii -db_file cetables
YYERROR:syntax error, line 4, symbol NS_ENTRIES

Yep, I made as ASCII file and turned right around to put it back.  Have I
found yet-another-OW3.0_bug?

The ASCII file that was built sure looks like the example in the man page.

Actually, my original cetables got destroyed (I made a backup) and what I
now have is:

{
NS_NAME=Types
NS_ATTR=
NS_ENTRIES=()
}

Needless to say, ce_db_build doesn't even like that.  Do I need a new
ce_db_build or is the ASCII file that ce_db_build creates in error, and if
so, what do I need to do to fix it.

Thanks in advance.
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From: quekck@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Chwee Kong QUEK)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Wanted: "bitmap gallery" utility
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:41:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:25:12 GMT
Message-Id: <53620002@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Sender: xpert-request@expo.lcs.mit.edu
From: chet@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Chet Ramey)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Xlib-based menu package?
Date: 11 Oct 92 12:33:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Case Western Reserve University

Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:52:12 GMT
Message-Id: <1b1eedINNrse@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm looking for a (small) Xlib-only popup menu library suitable for
dropping into another application.  For various reasons, I cannot
use the plethora of Xt-based menu libraries available -- mostly
because of the body of existing code using Xlib in the aforementioned
application.

Mail to chet@po.cwru.edu, please.  If there are requests to do so,
I will summarize.

Chet Ramey
-- 
``The use of history as therapy means the corruption of history as history.''
	-- Arthur Schlesinger

Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University	Internet: chet@po.CWRU.Edu
From: adams@pooh.sdd.trw.com (allen Adams)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Ada, VAX/VMS, X, PHIGS, Motif
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:45:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:03:15 GMT
Message-Id: <2AD5AD43.1174@deneva.sdd.trw.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.pex

I do not know if the following is FAQ, but I am looking for any information,
experiences, etc. using Ada, VAX/VMS, X, PHIGS, and Motif in some/any 
combination of these.  Any tidbits of wisdom, whether they be good, bad, or
indifferent, would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Allen Adams