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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 93 Ford Probe GT Doorlock Problem
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:24:09 GMT
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Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848

kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
>>I noticed that the car doorlock automatically unlocks whenever I pull on the
>>door latch (from inside the car), even while I was driving.  
>This must be a Ford thing, not your alarm. My Merkur unlocks the door

This seems to me to be a FEATURE, not a BUG!  I felt pretty paranoid
when I rent a GM product this summer and found the doors automatically
locked whenever the Gearshift was put in Drive.  In case of accident, 
this could be fatal .. I can see it now ... groping for the unlock
lever while maimed and hardly conscious.
:-(

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From: tedebear@leland.stanford.edu (Theodore Chen)
Subject: tires for rambo lambo
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 07:15:56 GMT


just saw an ad for tire rack where they advertise Pirelli Scorpion tires
for the Lamborghini LM002.
345/60VR17.... $1,255!  each!

you could buy a set of Eagle GS-Cs plus a spare for your corvette
and it would still cost less than one of those rambo lambo tires.
hey, exclusivity ain't cheap.

-teddy
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Paxon SCs for Chev 305
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:17:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

> kimnach@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH) writes:
>I'm not seriously considering a Paxon supercharger--yet!  But is it as easy 
>to install as the brochures claim?  Should other mods be made to the heads. 
>How about the frame, can my 88 IROC (T-tops) handle the extra torque without 
>a full frame?  The clutch (5-speed)?  Bottom line: is the Paxon worthwile?

I read a few articles on this in Hot Rod, and supposedly they put one of these
on an engine in one day. That is assuming, of course, that you have a 
good set of tools and some mechanical ability. Paxton claims that no other
mods are necessary. Coollin might be a problem, though. 

As for the cars strength, that is a definite question mark. GM did not 
put 350 TPI`s in Camaros and Firebirds with T-Tops at all. Why? The torque
was too much for the body. Actually, I think I remember my friend (an
F-body fanatic) saying that they put 350`s in T-topped F bodies for one model
year, but then quit doing it because of body torsion problems. As to the 
clutch, I wouldn`t be confident about that either. 

The people to call about this is Summit Racing Equipment in Akron, OH. They
are one of America`s largest distributors of hi-po parts, and I think
they carry the Paxtons. I don`t have a phone number, but I know that they 
have a tech line where experts will tell you in black and white what 
works and what does not. Whenever I have called them, they have been 
very honest and open with me. I would try to get a number (maybe 
information?) for them, and give them a call. They would probably know
best.


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From: shantanu@poseidon.oakhill.uucp (Shantanu Ganguly)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 92 or 93 Toyota Camry
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:50:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: poseidon.SHANTANU.92Sep29125013
Distribution: na
Organization: SPS CAD, Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas.

In article <Bv9yCA.8oH@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> ang@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Mikey) writes:

   I am considering buying either a 92 or 93 Toyota Camry (V6 LE, 5 spd + ABS)
   Could somebody tell me what is a fair price or best deal for this car? 
   (in Cdn$, if possible). Please mention if the price is PST, GST etc included. 

The previous Camry was not available with 5speed in LE form in the
U.S. -  an automatic was standard. As far as I remember, the new model
has the same kind of packaging. It may be possible to find a V6 Dx
with a 5 speed. The SE comes with a V6 and 5speed, that may be another
option.
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From: huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann)
Subject: Mustang GT vs. Mustang LX 5.0
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:55:08 GMT

Hello out there. I'm considering getting a 1988 Mustang, but I don't
know whether I should get a GT or a 5.0 LX. I've heard that the LX
is actually slightly faster than the GT (being lighter), but how does
the handling compare? Also, I've heard insurance rates are a lot
lower for LXs than for GTs... Any advice? Please e-mail. Thanks!

Joe

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From: endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi)
Subject: Honda Civic Problem List <Responses>
Organization: SCTC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:24:47 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Civic Engine Noise
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 23:17:25 GMT

In article 92Sep23135200@minnie.cc.utexas.edu, yenting@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Yen-Ting Shu) writes:
>
>My 89 Honda Civic developed some kind of annoying noise somewhere under
>the hood whenever the car is accelerating, under heavy load, or climbing
>a slope. The noise gets worse whenever the gas pedal is pressed down
>further, and there seems to be a loss of power when the noise is heard.
>Anyone knows what may cause such noise?


   Could it be detonation, pinging?
See the postings on fuel additives, They will tell you everything
you need to know. To get rid of this problem try a fuel with a
higher octane rating.

Andy.
From: johnl@pcx.ncd.com (John Light)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:05:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: pcx.1992Sep30.200520.7255
Organization: Graphic Software Systems, Beaverton, OR

In article <stuart.717817096@yacht> stuart@ee.fit.edu (William Stuart) writes:
>  Fashion?  No.
>
>  Bean Counters? Yes.
>
>  The fundamental reason cars are FWD these days are because it is cheaper to
>  manufacture the car, while prices remain high.  Ala higher profit margins.
>
Having watched the transition, I see it differently.  FWD cars were initially
more expensive to produce than RWD.  The impetus for FWD came from CAFE
standards in the 70s.  By mounting the engine and transaxle transversely
in the front between McPherson struts, you get the best volume to weight
ratio, which is nearly the same as the comfort to gas mileage ratio.

At first, FWD cars actually cost more than RWD cars of the same size, but
the FWD versions were lighter, therefore got better gas mileage, and people
cared about things like that back then.  The Japanese were quite slow
offering FWD because of the retooling required, but when they started, they
went into it in a big way.  The American manufacturers were even slower
to make the transition.

Given enough experience, lighter is cheaper, so now FWD is cheaper to
manufacture, but it wasn't always so.

John Light
johnl@gss.com
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From: m20051@mwunix (Bruce Carlson)
Subject: Re: Civic SI clutch chatter
Keywords: Civic
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:29:14 GMT

In article <Bv4BEz.3J9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mem28103@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marc E. Munoz ) writes:
>I have a 1990 Honda Civic HB std (no frills here) and I have both problems.
>The chatter started around 6000 miles, and the warping occurred about the same
>time.  I had the warping fixed when the rotors were turned (around 20k) but
>a hint of warping came back about 6k later.  I had the clutch checked and they ssaid it was fine. (hmmm...)
>
>I have also noticed that the chatter is more severe when the car is cold.  The cchatter seems to go away if I wash the underside of the car with a      
>high-pressure washer.  Right now I'm at 30k and the chatter gets annoying and
>kinda embarrassing when I'm w/ friends (esp the ones who can drive stick).
>
>If you anyone knows more please post.
>
>			-Marc
>

I have a 1990 Civic EX with a similar clutch problem.  I bought it with about 
36k miles on it and noticed that it had some clutch chatter when cold.  However,
it also has another bothersome characteristic.  The clutch engagement does
not seem linear throughout the travel of the pedal.  I get gradual engagement
as I release the clutch and then at about 75-80% of full travel I get a
much more positive engagement as the clutch suddenly grabs.  If I don't have
RPM up high enough I get a nice "lurch" as the clutch grabs, so I tend to
keep RPM up higher than necessary.

When I first took the car in to the dealer it had 36,300 miles on it and after
the mechanic and service manager drove it they offered to replace the clutch,
pressure plate and throughout bearing under warranty.  I asked them to also
resurface the flywheel and they assured me they would inspect it and resurface
it if necessary (they decided not to resurface it).

The clutch action was much bettter after they replaced it, but it is still
fairly "grabby".  I am suspicious that they should have resurfaced the flywheel
to fully cure the problem.  I have put about 7k miles on the new clutch and
plan to take it back soon to tell them that they really didn't solve the 
problem.  The new clutch is warranteed for 12k miles, but I don't know 
exactly what they will do to try and fix it.

I recently drove a friend's new Integra, which reinforced my resolve to take
my Civic back to the dealer and see if they can fix it "better".  The Integra
clutch also has a very positive engagement, but nothing comparable to the
grabby clutch in my Civic.

I also have warped brake rotors, but so far they are not irritating enough
to force me to get them turned.

Bruce Carlson
carlson@mitre.org
MITRE Corp.
Reston, VA
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From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: Tire width vs wheel width question
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:01:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.014330.2315@rosevax.rosemount.com> grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
>How do you know what tire sizes will fit on a given width wheel?  I've
>seen OEM arrangements with 185mm tires on both 5.5 and 6 inch wide
>wheels, and 185mm or 195mm tires on 6 inch wide wheels.  It appears
>that on some width wheels (6.5 inch?) you can use either 205mm or
>215mm tires.

the rule of thumb is generally this:  the wheel width should be at
least 70% of the tire section width.  in other words, to compute the
widest tire to fit a given wheel, use the following formula:

max-tire-width (mm) ~= 36.3 * wheel-width (inches)

for a 6 inch wheel, the max tire width comes out to about a 215,
for example.

cheers,
  richard
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From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:29:49 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems


>Handling might be the other factor. FWD handles better in the snow because
>of the weight from the engine and transaxle on the front end. RWD seem to
>handle badly in the snow because of less weight in the trunk area.
>RWD usual have one turning power wheel (posi has two). FWD has two turning
>wheels.


But couldn't a RWD neutralize the snow advantage simply by stacking a couple
hundred pounts of sand bags in the trunk (over the rear wheels)?

	Dave
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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Insurance Advice for Muscle Cars
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:14:45 GMT

In article 590002@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM, russ@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Russ Lown) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I have a friend who is ready to by a 1970 Roadrunner with a market
>value of $30,000 US.  He has a few questions about insurance:
>
>
>  o Does anyone have any insurance companies they can recommend
>    when buying such a car?

Try Condon and Skelly. If your friend is only using it for show/club
activities, it's a bargain. To find out about them get the latest 
issue of Cars&Parts. Their ad is in every issue.
>
>  o How does one go about dealing with the blue book/market value
>    mismatch?  Is an independent appraisal in order?  

Get it appraised and insure it for 10% more.

Andy.  




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From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:15:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.014422.14559@rosevax.rosemount.com> grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
>salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena) writes:

>: Additional RWD models still sold (please feel free to add to this list):
>[...]
>: 4.  Alfa Spider.

>This is the last year for "real" spiders.  I've read that 93 spiders
>are going to be based on the FWD alfa 164.  :(

actually, we're not getting the new spider in 1993; probably 1994.
the new spider will probably be based on the Lancia Dedra/Fiat Tipo
FWD platform; the 164 is too large to serve as a basis for the spider.

likely there will be a coupe and perhaps a targa based on the new
spider as well, some form of the V-6 motor, and an AWD top of the line
model, so the news is not _all_ bad.  just the loss of RWD.

richard
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From: zampicem@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mike Zampiceni)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:58:23 GMT
Subject: Re: BUGS .. THOSE DAMNED BUGS
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.autos

Use a good car cleaner/wax, such as Meguiars. Use a damp sponge and rub in
the cleaner until the bugs come  off, then buff. That's all.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ness@tc.fluke.COM (Jerry Ness)
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations: Sporty car for tall people?
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:31:11 GMT

I have a similar height problem. I 'cured' my head clearance by reclining
the back of the seat one notch and moving the seat foreward 'til it felt
right. I drive an 89 Probe a lot (70K miles now). We have friends visiting
who own a Mitsu VR-4. It 'fits' me just fine using the same tecnique for
seat adjustment. The 'V'car is absolutely awesome to drive!! Thank goodness
for cruise control. The major problem I would have with owning a 3000gt is
the speeding tickets! Not mine, mind you, but if I'm cruisin' along at just
under 60 and 2 kids in a '79 beat up Mustang are doin' 75 mph to catch up and take a look at the VR-4. Now the state patrol hits us with radar guess who
gets the ticket?? It's gotta be the swoopy, shiney sports car, couldn't
possible be that beat up black mustang!!
'nuf ramblin'
Jerry
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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Do you have a Sable?  What's your MPG?
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 17:14:24 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

>I am not sure if my 87 Sable Wagon consumes more fuel than average.  It's
>getting only 17 MPG, freeway and local combined(half and half).  I inflate the
>tires to 34 psi and keep the car in good condition.  Can someone own a similar
>car tell me your MPG?  Or maybe the ways to increase it?  Thanks a lot.
>
>- james

Do you have the 3.8 or the 3.0 V-6? I have a '90 Taurus Wagon with
the 3.0 V-6 and about 43,000 miles on the clock and I recently drove
from LA to Sacamento and back... lots of long boring Interstate
highway, a trip of appx 500 miles, and almost made it 1 way on one tank
of gas, putting the mileage for that trip in the high 20s I guess
since the tank holds about 17 gallons. Around town in stop'n'go
traffic thru the suburbs I get about what you're getting, perhaps
a couple mpg more. I'm sure it has to do with the time you can
spend in the automatic overdrive 4th gear versus not as to what kind
of overall mileage you're gonna see. By the way, I run it on 
"regular unleaded" 87 octane stuff (name brands) which it seems
to like just fine.

Harv
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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 23:43:25 GMT

In article 100805@usho21.hou281.chevron.com, hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:

>
>  I drove RWD through the 70's - performance and pedestrian.  In the 1981, 
>  I got my first FWD.  11 years later, I still drive FWD - Dodge Stealth RT.
>  The family car has been a Chevy Caprice and now a Chevy Surburban.  In my
>  experience, the FWD handled just as well as any RWD but, in the rain, ice,
>  and snow, the FWD handled better and I felt alot safer than in the RWD.
>
>  IMHO, as always.
>
>  TRAVIS

 Reply: I drove RWD from the beginning. By '88 or so, I finally switched to
FWD. Two years later, after two bad wipeouts (one of which started with a front-
wheel blowout on slush, the other losing rear wheel grip on snow just by 
using compression after downshifting) and a collision repair fiasco, I gladly
switched back. 

 Since then, I have had no problems. Since this is subjective, I am not 
trying to convert FWD devotees to my way of thinking. You are all entitled to your 
opinions and I respect them. I also have the right to disagree with those
opinions, and as an old friend once told me..."there's something really
quirky about steering with the driving wheels"...That I agree with.

Now what does IMHO mean...I hate jargon!

Andy.

PLEASE EXCUSE MY OBVIOUS IGNORANCE.





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From: norcott_bill@tandem.com (Bill Norcott)
Subject: Re: Want NISSAN Quest/ Mercury Villager Info....
Reply-To: norcott_bill@tandem.com  (Bill Norcott)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Distribution: rec.autos
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:49:47 GMT

The Mercury Villager is built by Ford in the U.S. and is a joint 
venture with Nissan.  The Mercury version has a full 3 year/36,000
mile warranty.  You can probably also get a better price from the
Mercury dealer.  I would talk to them and forget the Nissan dealer.


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From: wesf@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:38:20 GMT
Subject: Re: wrenches
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.autos

In <18505.2ac1a68e@ecs.umass.edu> mike sylvester writes:

>Obviously you have never used an impact wrench. 
  
Quite to the contrary.  I OWN an impact wrench, air wrench, air hammer, etc.
I also OWN several click type torque wrenches.  I have twisted studs off 
axle flanges with frozen nuts on them while using the impact wrench.  With
proper attention, a person COULD put wheel nuts on with an impact wrench
but if the slimeball is so lazy as to not do it ACCURATELY with a torque
wrench, then they shouldn't be touching the vehicle!

Show me a pneumatic impact wrench that is calibrated under all air pressures
to be even close to accurate and consistant and I will retract the bad things
that I have been saying!!!


Wes Fujii

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From: amin@doomsday.micro.umn.edu (Amin Kassem)
Subject: Re: Jeep mailing list?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:41:21 GMT

amin@rsvl.unisys.com

thanks

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From: g_stofko@kau100.enet.dec.com (George Stofko)
Subject: Re: Wanna be disgusted?
Reply-To: g_stofko@kau100.enet.dec.com (George Stofko)
Organization: Digital Equipment of Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:22:31 GMT


-In article <1992Sep28.123020.28685@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, seymour@bnr.ca 
|>(Jeffrey Seymour) writes:
|
|>
|>Those of us in Canada have been getting reamed with taxes lately- 
|>especially if you reside in Ontario.  Starting October 1st Ontario 
|>is not going to believe you when you try to get a second hand car registered - 
|>with respect to the purchase price.  On this date new legislation goes into 
|>affect whereby the tax paid on licencing will be computed on the sales 
|>agreement price or a value in some bullshit book -which ever is more.  
|>I'm serious.

I read about this and wondered if someone would have to pay book value
for a repairable wreck or, for a vehicle with a blown engine/tranny??

Do any other provinces have legislation like this.
(yes, I am disgusted)

-
  
  George Stofko        g_stofko@kau100.enet.dec.com    
  Digital Equipment of Canada
From: nathanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathan Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Aftermarket sunroofs - are they any good?
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:36:09 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

Hello netters:

I am interested in the new Nissan Altima. When I went to the dealer
and looked at the GXE model, he said that a factory sunroof was
not available, but that a company called "American Sunroof" could
put one in. (power tilt/slide with sunshade)
It would be done before I took delivery and would cost
about $1000. Has anyone out there had experience with this company
or with aftermarket sunroofs in general? Is the quality the same
as a factory-installed one? If I put one in, does that void any
part of the new-car warranty? Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Nathan Chan
(nathanc@leland.stanford.edu)
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