HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dandrake@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel E. Drake)
Subject: Help!!! Need ideas on editors......
Keywords: editor 
Organization: CSO EWS
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:46:35 GMT

I know this has been posted many times, but I need some help on editors that
can be used with elm.  I need something (beides VI and ELM "NONE"), not using
emacs, for people who are not too anxious to learn a new editor and that
can actually edit a message (whooah, what a pipe dream!).  Any suggestions?
You can post it OR e-mail.  Thanks in advance....
						-Dan Drake

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From: ssanbeg@visual.spk.wa.us (Scott Sanbeg)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Help with using signatures...
Keywords: Elm
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:19:41 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market Public Access Site - Spokane, WA

In article <1992Apr9.121258.6167@iti.gov.sg> ronald@iti.gov.sg (Ronald Yap) writes:
>Hi everybody in netland,
>
>Could somebidy out there tell me how to add/include my own signature to the
>end of all of outgoing mails??

Certainly. In your ~/.elm directory, add the following (optional) lines
to your elmrc file:
remotesignature = ~/.signature
localsignature = ~/.localsig

The elmrc-sample shows this information.
Scott

 
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: grants@syacus.acus.oz.au (Grant Sayer)
Subject: Converting 'mh' folders to elm
Summary: converting mail folders
Keywords: mh, elm, conversion
Organization: ACUS, Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney AUST.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:34:19 GMT


Is there a utility to convert "mh" folders to elm format ?  I have a
user who previously used "mh" at another site and wishes to continue
with elm.  Any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks in Advance
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Ph : +61 2 390-1339         Internet : grants@syacus.acus.OZ.AU
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From: unterspa@novavax.UUCP (Diane Unterspan)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: still testing
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:48:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL


kay, let's get it right this time.
From: drisko@ics.com (Jason Drisko)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Aliasing the From field
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:35:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Integrated Computer Solutions, Inc.

Is there anyway to make it so you have an alias in your From:  field on the 
letters you send.  For example I don't want SOME of my letters to say that they
are from drisko@ics.com, but rather something like Raistlin or Raistlin@ics.com
Any suggestions?  

Thanks,

Jason
From: miles@athena.cs.uga.edu (Miles Meekhof)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: test
Summary: Semi-solution
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:52:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr14.195220.2415
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Instead of doing a test in a newsgroup for your signature, you could just send
mail to yourself.  It worked for me.
From: grdetil@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles Detillieux)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Configuring elm for a NeXT
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:45:42 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In article <1992Apr3.212900.22302@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>  
francisr@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
> 
> I've been trying to compile elm on my NeXT.  When I run Configure, I
> answer all the questions and everything seems fine.  So I do a make,
> and it starts compiling, but then chokes at:
>  
> cc  -o ../bin/elm addr_util.o    alias.o                 aliasdb.o
..
> syscall.o       utils.o                 validname.o -ltermlib  -lsys_s
> /bin/ld: multiple definitions of symbol _strpbrk
> opt_utils.o definition of _strpbrk in section (__TEXT,__text)
> /lib/libsys_s.a(strpbrk.o) definition of absolute _strpbrk (value
> 0x5003050)
> *** Exit 1
> Stop.
> *** Exit 1
> Stop.

I ran into the same problem.  What I did was add "-Dstrpbrk=mystrpbrk" to the
compiler options, so that elm's function doesn't conflict with the one in the
library.  I also used the "-bsd" and "-fwritable-strings" options, as had been
recommended here earlier by someone.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: moconnor@pms704.pms.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Aliasing the From field
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: "Fordz"
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:10:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.153527.8351@ics.com> drisko@ics.com (Jason Drisko) writes:
:Is there anyway to make it so you have an alias in your From:  field on the 
:letters you send.  For example I don't want SOME of my letters to say that they
:are from drisko@ics.com, but rather something like Raistlin or Raistlin@ics.com

Depending on your MTA, you can add a From: someaddress@somewhere line
in your .elm/elmheaders.  Please add a valid address if you pursue
this course of action.

-- 
 Mike O'Connor                     |  Ford Motor Company, USA
 Applications Systems Analyst      |  CPD P&MS ECC Core Software
 Phone #:  +1 (313) 390-4008       |  P.O. Box 2053, ECC MD-7
 Fax #:    +1 (313) 845-0576       |  Dearborn, MI  48121-2053
From: khafagi@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Help !!!! with Filter
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:04:33 GMT
Reply-To: khafagi@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Organization: Michigan State University
Originator: khafagi@frith.egr.msu.edu

I am a new user of the filter program.  My question has to do with the macro
feature (%d, %r,.....).  Are there any way to use these macros to record the
date and the time of the received mail in the filterlog file.  I need to be 
able to keep this information with the header that is saved in the filterlog.
Sorry if the question is FAQ

Bassem
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: skl@cs.sfu.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: filter in .forward file
Reply-To: skl@cs.sfu.ca (Samuel Lam)
Organization: Centre for Systems Science, Simon Fraser University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:25:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.203019.20435@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu>,
 berry@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu wrote:
>here is my .forward file...
>...
>berry@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu
>|"/usr/local/bin/filter -o animal/cpsa3/berry/.elm/filter.errors"
>...
>When someone sends me mail now, they get it bounced back with the message...
>
>!"/usr/local/bin/filter -o animal/cpsa3/berry/.elm/filter.errors"...unparsable
>address.  

Try starting the second line with

	"|/usr/local/bin/filter ...
	**
instead of

	|"/usr/local/bin/filter ...
	**
...Sam
-- 
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Network Support Group, Centre for Systems Science
Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: skl@cs.sfu.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: Help!!! Need ideas on editors......
Keywords: editor 
Reply-To: skl@cs.sfu.ca (Samuel Lam)
Organization: Centre for Systems Science, Simon Fraser University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:40:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.034635.7473@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, dandrake@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 (Daniel E. Drake) wrote:
>I know this has been posted many times, but I need some help on editors that
>can be used with elm.  I need something (beides VI and ELM "NONE"), not using
>emacs, for people who are not too anxious to learn a new editor and that
>can actually edit a message (whooah, what a pipe dream!).  Any suggestions?

JOE (Joe's Own Editor) would be a good candidate for this job.

It's available in for FTP in wpi.wpi.edu:stusrc/joe.tar.Z .

I have tried it out and found it to be quite an acceptable
replacement for vi as a text editor for people who are new
to UNIX and mainly use UNIX for mail and news.

...Sam
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Network Support Group, Centre for Systems Science
Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: guy@library.calpoly.edu (Guy Martin)
Subject: arepdaemon problems
Organization: Polycat/Systems Support - Kennedy Library, Cal Poly SLO
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:53:29 GMT

Hello networld.. I am hoping someone can point out what is going wrong here
with a minimum of effort..

I am trying to activate 'arepdaemon' so that staff here who go on vacation
can autoreply to mail they receive while they are gone.  I started up
arepdaemon, and from its logging file, everything seems to be just fine.
I then use autoreply to turn autoreplying on for me with a test file.  I
then sent mail to myself, expecting to eventually get two new mail messages..
(the original, and the autoreply)... Well, it never happened.. I get the
message I sent myself, but not the autoreply.. I checked the permissions on
the file I specified to autoreply and they were 644, so I have no idea what
is going wrong.. Ideas anyone?  Thanks.

P.S. - we are running ELM 2.3 PL11

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  My opinions are my own!  They do not reflect those of the Kennedy Library.
From: dsbarr@modula.cs.psu.edu (Dave Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: hidden feature in elm 2.3pl11 or do i need to RTFM or RTFS ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:18:36 GMT
Reply-To: dsbarr@cs.psu.edu
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <avalon.702565880@coombs> avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
>Just now my modem 'hung up' on elm under screen and when I came
>back, I found it in a screen I've never seen before and that I
>cant get to via any known key.
>
>It had a list of all pieces of mail, their size and their offset
>into the mailbox that were shown on the screen previously plus
>some other items. I couldnt see the 'key' under "?" that led to
>this.
>
>what was this and how do i see it again ??

Um, perhaps you mean the screen you get when you hit "@"?
It's a debug screen.  (Other debug keys are '%' and '#')

--Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: Message received?
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1992 07:06:58 GMT

feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
>can tell, short of asking him, whether:
>	1) he has received the message?
Add a Return-Receipt-To: <your address> header line.

>	2) he has read the message?
Try adding a Return-View-To: <your address> header line to your mail.
While the first (RRT) is evaluated by the MTA (smail, sendmail etc.),
the latter need not necessarily be evaluated by the MUA used.
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OVER the underpass!  UNDER the overpass!  Around the FUTURE
 and BEYOND REPAIR!!
Xref: sparky comp.mail.elm:1259 comp.sys.sun.misc:1834
From: yountm@gtephx.UUCP (Marvin Yount)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Building Elm on a Sun workstation
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:15:38 GMT
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona

I am trying to build Elm (2.3 PL11) on a Sun IPX workstation
[SunOS Release 4.1.2].  Configure didn't seem to have any problems,
but the make died while compiling domains.c with these messages:

acc  -O -I../hdrs    -target sun4 -c  domains.c
"domains.c", line 66: identifier redeclared: rewind
"domains.c", line 308: cannot recover from previous errors
Compilation failed
*** Error code 10

I'm using acc as the C compiler because I was told it's Sun's ANSI
compatible version.  I've been unable to track down this rewind
declaration problem so if anyone has any suggestions for building Elm
on the Sun I'd really appreciate them.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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From: aras@multix.no (Arne Asplem)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Problems with Elm filter and EMERGENCY_MBOX
Keywords: filter  EMERGENCY_MBOX
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:01:33 GMT
Organization: Multix A.S

I've tried to write some small rules for the Elm filter (using Elm
version 2.3 pl 11), to save away mailing-lists, etc. and keep the
other messages in the mailbox. BUT only the saving works ! The
other messages are placed in $HOME/EMERGENCY_MBOX ! Why ?

  -- Arne

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From: chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Redefine "local" for localsignature
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:59:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In my elmrc I have different signature files defined for remote signature
and local signature.  However as far as I'm concerned, "local" means any
of the dozens of machines on campus which are networked together here.
Is there a way to redefine "local" so that it means xxxx.upenn.edu where
xxxx is anything, so my .localsig file will be appended to any mail I send
on campus and my .sig file will be appended to mail I send off campus?

Currently my local signature is appended only to mail I send to other users
on my machine only.

chaim



Chaim R. Dworkin
chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu
From: das@trac3000.ueci.com (David Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: ELM on an R6000
Keywords: ELM R6000
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:53:14 GMT
Organization: UE&C - Catalytic in Philadelphia, PA

In article <62@mhinfo.UUCP>, jem@mhinfo.UUCP (John McCormack) writes:
> Can anyone tell me if ElM has been successfully installed on an 
> IBM R6000?  If yes, where can the distribution be found?

Yes, the distribution is nothing more than the standard one.  However,
when asked for additional CFLAGS... specify: -U__STR__

DAS
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UUCP:  ..!uunet!trac2000!das     INTERNET:  David.Snyder@ueci.com
From: unterspa@novavax.UUCP (Diane Unterspan)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: TEST
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:00:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL


 as you can tell, I am having trouble regaining the .signature I
created. it is working in elm, it is less than 4 lines long and what
else am I doing wrong. I will not sign this as a test that my
signature isn'y apapearring... if it does, IGNORE THIS!
unterspa@novavax.nova.edu (this isn't my sig)
From: sasdbh@fly.unx.sas.com (David Horne)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: FAQ and filter info
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:08:15 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasdbh@fly.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 369

I'd like to receive the FAQ and specifically the doc
on using the filter if anyone has a minute to e-mail
them to me.  Thanks.
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From: torsten@rnivh.rni.sub.org (Torsten Leibold)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Latest ELM Version/PL ??
Keywords: Version
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:37:54 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Rhein-Neckar-Informationsdienst Viernheim

zacherl@tuvie.UUCP (WANG Oesterreich GmbH) writes:

>PLS tell me what's the latest (current) Version of elm.
>I'm running Rel.2,.3/PL11 on SCO ODT 1.1

That's the actual version.

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From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: elm in a distributed filesystem crossing domain boundaries
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:14:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: DSI.1992Apr16.231411.11696
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA

kneuper@chpc.utexas.edu (Stephen Kneuper) writes:
>Elm was installed and configured within the chpc.utexas.edu domain,
>and it works fine.

>On the machine (shreddar) in the uta.edu domain, the "r" (reply)
>command insists on appending ".chpc.utexas.edu" to the reply address,
>if the mail was local (i.e., a user on shreddar emailing to another
>user on shreddar).  The email bounces, since the machine
>"shreddar.chpc.utexas.edu" does not exist.  Elm should have
>constructed the address "shreddar.uta.edu".

>Can I configure Elm to read some type of config file -or- use some
>type of system/DNS call to figure out the domain name?
2.3 is not set up for that, 2.4 can.  2.3 compiles in the domain name.
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Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 2.4 Release: Mid?? 1992
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd      Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235
From: banner@spock ( banner@semi.mitel.com )
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: "Hard-Copy" option in elm23 ??
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:42:43 GMT
Followup-To: banner@semi.mitel.com
Organization: Mitel Semiconductor, Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

Is there a compile/user setup option that will enable a "hard-copy"
like feature for the elm speed keys. ie to change folders one would
press c <enter>.

THis is required to correct an apparent time out error over a rather
lengthy dial up connection.

Any pointers would be appreciated... Email or post, yer choice...

Thanks muchly....
 
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MITEL Corp. Kanata, Ont. | "It was like that when I got here..."
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: schieb@isis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Subject: PC ELM
Organization: NASA Code 971, Oceans & Ice Branch
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:14:57 GMT

HO!
 I have a friend who wants to join the ELM world.
Is ELM available for the PC? Sorry if this is a 
stupid question but I don't use PC's anymore and
don't know :)

 Please flood Eric directly with e-mail
(or me if you prefer):

 e.brody@omnet.nasa.gov

Thanks,
 Brian
From: grdetil@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles R. Detillieux)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Configuring elm for a NeXT
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:29:49 GMT
Organization: Physiology Dept., University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In article <1992Apr10.153901.8751@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org>, hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp) writes:
> grdetil@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles Detillieux) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr3.212900.22302@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>  
> >francisr@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
> 
> >> I've been trying to compile elm on my NeXT.  When I run Configure, I
> >> [trouble]
> 
> >I ran into the same problem.  What I did was add "-Dstrpbrk=mystrpbrk" to the
> > [also trouble]
> 
> Hm, when I installed Elm 2.3Pl11, I didn't have such Problems - I don't know
> anymore, how I did it, so don't ask.
> Are you sure, you correctly answered all questions?

Fairly sure.  This happened on NextStep release 2.1.  Is that the release you
were running when you compiled elm?  Maybe 2.0 didn't have that problem.

-- 
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Spinal Cord Research Centre		or <grdetil@larry.scrc.UManitoba.CA>
Dept. of Physiology, U. of Manitoba
770 Bannatyne Avenue, BMSB 401		Phone:  (204)788-6766
Winnipeg, MB  R3E 0W3  (Canada)		Fax:    (204)786-0932
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - System Admin)
Subject: problems with elm
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX System (416-636-2026) - 24hrs.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 07:42:28 GMT

Hi...

	I think someone posted a fix to this awhile ago, but I 
overlooked it :(

	Incoming mail has a 'remote from...' in the From line of the
header and elm seems to disregard the message and add it to the
end of the previous message.  If I use a program like 'mailx',
it reads the folder properly.  Is there a way to fix this in
elm?

Marc

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: ronald@iti.gov.sg (Ronald Yap)
Subject: Help with using signatures...
Keywords: Elm
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:12:58 GMT

Hi everybody in netland,

Could somebidy out there tell me how to add/include my own signature to the
end of all of outgoing mails??

Thanks.

>> ronald@iti.gov.sg
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: pullin@mail.physics.utah.edu (Jorge Pullin)
Subject: Erratically bouncing outgoing mail
Organization: University of Utah - Physics Department
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 15:07:12 GMT

Hello

Our machine (IBM RS 6000 AIX 3.1.5 3005) has been erratically bouncing
outgoing mail. An example of the kind of error it gives is:


From: MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
Message-Id: <9203202251.AA30570@mail.physics.utah.edu>
To: pullin
Status: RO

  --- The transcript of the session follows ---
554 asterix.eng.buffalo.edu.tcp... 554 Service unavailable
554 arg-net@asterix.eng.buffalo.edu... Service unavailable



That is, it seems that for some reason it decides not to use the name
server and it tries to open a tcp/ip direct connection with the mail
destination. If the connection cannot be opened (network temporarily
unreachable, or if it is a foreign address with no direct connection)
it bounces the message. It should be noticed that usually re-sending
the message immediately does not cause any problem (the message goes
through OK). Sometimes maybe it has to be re-sent twice (it bounces
also the second time). The IBM people could only suggest "try
rebooting the machine" which did not help. I am using ELM 2.3 PL11 as
mailer and sendmail. I had a look at sendmail.cf and seems configured
OK. For instance it usually accepts without trouble "difficult"
foreign internet addresses, which proves it is using name servers to
send the message.  Again I remind that the problem is only sporadical
and is not reproducible, it happens about once a day to me, and I
usually send 20/30 outgoing messages a day.


Anyone can give me any hint? As you may infer from the wording of the
above text I am no expert in sendmail, tcp/ip or nameservers, so any
suggestion is welcome. Please reply by email, I can summarize if there
is interest. Thanks in advance.

Regards.
Jorge


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