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From: khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON DC PARKING TICKET Limit before been booted or towed ?
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:48:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bt2zsJ.8ws
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

agupta@agupta.enet.dec.com (Abhijit Gupta) writes:


>I received two parking tickets on separate occasion while visiting Washington
>DC in the last one year. I am planning to take my car again this week and I
>was wondering after how many tickets do the authorities start putting the
>boot or start towing the car.

>If two tickets are too many then I would rather rent a car rather
>than risk my car. 

I don't know what the threshold is in D.C., but have you ever considered simply
parking LEGALLY? I've been to D.C. and it doesn't seem too terribly hard to
do. Not a flame, merely curiosity.

--
Scott Coleman                                                    tmkk@uiuc.edu

Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush's lips at an official banquet.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: fitchitt@wam.umd.edu ()
Subject: Re: Consequences of getting a ticket
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:25:50 GMT

In article <Bt2zJz.8tK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
>jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) writes:
>
>This reminds me of the only TV commercial that actually had me laughing out
>loud in recent memory. I think it might have been a Western Union commercial.
>There is a guy wearing a suit standing in a courtroom before a judge. She
>bangs her gavel and says "the fine is $10 for every MPH over the speed limit."
>Immediately the guy responds "but that's $300!!" to which the judge responds
>"Ah, I see you can ADD fast, too!"
>
>I had to laugh in spite of myself. ;-)
>
>--
>Scott Coleman                                                    tmkk@uiuc.edu
>
>Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush's lips at an official banquet.

Yea... I laughed too, since my only speeding ticket was 4 years ago and 83 mph
only mabybe $80 dollars... not $300 for 2 mph more...!

Of course he could have been in a 15mph zone... ! 
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From: sknapp@iastate.edu (Steven M. Knapp)
Subject: Re: What is a "jake brake"?
Keywords: brake
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:31:12 GMT


The Jake brake intrigues me, could someone Email me more info on exactly how
it works?
Thanks!
________________________________________________________________________ 
Steven M. Knapp@	                 Iowa State University; Ames, IA
sknapp@iastate.edu	                    Computer Engineering Student
KA9QOA@N0AN.IA		            President Cyclone Amateur Radio Club
From: Stuart_Laing@kcbbs.gen.nz (Stuart Laing)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Traffic limitations
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:46:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: kcbbs.9979.2259224777
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

At least we do not all live in Tokyo where before you can buy a car you
have to prove that you have off street parking for it . As you will all
know land prices in Tokyo are out of this world and big sister made some
good tax free yen with her car park at her house before she bought her 
car.
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: What is a "jake brake"?
Keywords: brake
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:14:16 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

>In article <1992Aug20.164527.24423@gtephx.UUCP> romanenkod@gtephx.UUCP (Dan Romanenko) writes:
>>While traveling through Fredonia, Arizona earlier this month, I
>>saw a sign stating "NO JAKE BRAKES ALLOWED IN TOWN". None of
>>us in the vehicle could guess, so... what is a "jake brake"?

I believe the reason they don't want them used in town is because they're
very loud. If you've ever spent any time around highways or interstates
you may have noticed a sudden loud noise that sounds like a Diamond Reo just
lost it's muffler.
From: msl30@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Lucash)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:50:36 GMT
Reply-To: msl30@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Lucash)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <14098@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
>What I wonder is why long strings of cars collect in the left lane doing
>70 MPH when the right lane is wide open for large distances.  Seems to
>me that people ought to drive in the right lane unless the car in front
>of them is going slower and they need to pass.  if everyone did this on
>two lane freeways, I think things would move much more efficiently.
>
>In my view you would pass in the left lane but cruise in the right lane.
>
>Tom Pickett 
>tpickett@auspex.com
>SHO  GOZE

When I used to drive from Ohio to New Jersey I found that the left lane was
usually the smoothest and in the best condition.  I do drive fast so I wasn't
holding anyone up but if a faster car did approach me, I would move into
the slow lane for them to pass then return back to the left.


I know that I should stay in the slow lane but I usually travelled at night
and was considerate of others.  Even now that I live in California I do the
same thing.  This probably has nothing to do with the long chains of cars
that would follow the leader over a cliff but just thought I would mention it.


                    Mike
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Subject: Re: What is a "jake brake"?
Keywords: brake
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.164527.24423@gtephx.UUCP> romanenkod@gtephx.UUCP (Dan Romanenko) writes:
>While traveling through Fredonia, Arizona earlier this month, I
>saw a sign stating "NO JAKE BRAKES ALLOWED IN TOWN". None of
>us in the vehicle could guess, so... what is a "jake brake"?

They should outlaw those damn things EVERYWHERE...

Jake brakes are devices typically used (by my observation) by large
dump trucks (and others of that size, like cement trucks.)

I'm not sure exactly, but I believe they use the engine compression
to assist in slowing down the vehicle.  Unfortunately, when engaged,
the things make an obnoxious zillion-decibel truck type sound.  

I think the truckers think they're "cool" or something.  Where I live
in Maryland, it seems like they ALL have them, and they try to hop
up their trucks by adding chrome and painting stupid things on the
back like: "Flights of Fancy", "U N V Me", and the like.  (Not kidding.)
Never fails to elicit tons of laughter when I see a new slogan.

--
jimb@access.digex.com  | (Cage) 1998 323se     (ZCP-710) |     Comus Road
Merry Land (MD) U.S.A. | (Bike) 1986 GSXR750    (sold)   |     ClarksBURG
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But of course, I have three eyes.  I have clairvoyant paranoia.  -King Missile
From: stecz@pencom.com (John Steczkowski)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Driving 55
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:29:59 GMT
Reply-To: stecz@pencom.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Aug14.222031.7419@informix.com> neilw@informix.com (Neil  
Williams) writes:
> 
> So this idea occurred to me the other day - what if you actually
> started a nationwide movement to drive exactly 55, or less,
> actually, since 55 is a "limit".  Let's assume for the sake
>
> The extra beauty is that even cops and government officials
> can't speed when there's 4 lanes of bumper to bumper traffic
> all going 55.  They'd get frustrated pretty fast, I think.


Wasnt' there an organization in the 70's to do this exact thing?  Basically,  
everyone in the org had a sticker on the rear window of their car identifying  
them as a member of said org.  If another member saw them on the highway, they  
would drive next to each other at exactly 55, causing a (semi-)legal roadblock  
for the purpose of irritating the other motorists and hopefully policemen, etc.


--
  John Steczkowski                            stecz@pencom.com
       "It's not what you fling...It's the fling itself."
                                     Chris - Northern Exposure
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Copnsequences of getting a ticket
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:55:58 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

>I think that the cyclist _is_ required to carry a drivers license.

As far as I know, there is no such requirement in any state.

Nor, in fact, is one required to carry any form of identification
in public places here in the precariously free United States. Under 
some circumstances, such as operating a motor vehicle, one is 
required to carry and present on demand a license or permit that
happens to constitute identification.  Most people find it convenient 
to have official photographic ID issued by the state, meaning either 
a driver's license or the nonlicense ID card they'll issue to you if 
you don't drive. And most people are perfectly willing to show this
to the police upon request.  But if, for whatever reason, you don't have 
ID on you and a cop wants to know who you are, you tell him, and he just 
takes it at face value, the penalty being a charge of making a false 
statement to a police officer. Big civil liberties issue here.

>I agree that the cyclist should get a ticket for running the stop sign.  
>And $300 is _incredible_ for running a stop sign. 

Agreed -- on both counts. (Note that To Run or Not to Run a Stop Sign
is one of the eternal flames of rec.bicycles.)  I do wish my fellow
cyclists would have a better sense of the danger of ignoring traffic
regulations. (Can you say "road pizza," boys and girls?)  But the 
penalty in this alleged case seems far out of just proportion.

Disclaimer:  I'm not a lawyer and don't even play one on netnews,
so any or all of the above could be mistaken.

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
From: gthome@dss1.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:39:35 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In  <16p1fcINNohr@agate.berkeley.edu>  shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:
> >Another thing I have noticed for many years now, especially on I-5,
> >is that the left lane of traffic is the cruising lane, while the passing
> >lane has become the right lane.  It's more prevalent on weekends and
> >holidays when there aren't a lot of professional drivers on the road.
> >Very weird.
>
> I travel on the I-5 quite a bit this past year, and I noticed that the
> people who usually do this in the left lane think that they ARE going
> fast.  There are signs all over the I-5 saying that the max. speed
> limit is 65 MPH.  In addition, there are also signs which say
> slow traffic move to the right... or something like that.  Since most
> of these people cruise at around 70 or 75, they naturally think that
> they are the "faster" traffic, thus deserving the left lane.  However,
> they seem to forget that there are people who go even faster.  I usually
> go around 80 or 85, (but I don't think I will this weekend, since a friend
> who just recently drove on the freeway tipped me about an unusually amount
> of police activity...)  But even at this speed, I've been "blown away"
> a couple times.
> Another observation:  the right lane appears to be more bumpy than
> the left lane.  anyone know why?
>
> david shy
> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu

About the right lane always being more bumpy -- in all my thousands of miles
driving on interstates, the right lane is always more bumpy.  The reason for
this (I think) is that heavy trucks (18 wheelers) usually spend most of
there time in the right lane, and generally being good drivers. (I know
some truckers have terrible driving manners) Becuase of this use of the
right lane, I feel it "wears out" faster.  Anyone concur ? Disagree ?

==============================================================================
Gerry Thome
gthome@dss1.austin.ibm.com
Disclaimer: These opinions and thoughts expressed are my own, and in no way
            represent the views of IBM.
==============================================================================
From: ircgroup@cs.olemiss.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Date: 16 Aug 92 02:10:27 GMT
Organization: University of Mississippi

In article <1992Aug15.061724.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> dreuben@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>cars behind him trying to pass, and eventually giving up and [dangerously and
>illegally] passing in the right lane.

Is it dangerous and/or illegal to pass in the right
only on single lane.
From: neilw@informix.com (Neil Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Driving 55
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:20:31 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.


So this idea occurred to me the other day - what if you actually
started a nationwide movement to drive exactly 55, or less,
actually, since 55 is a "limit".  Let's assume for the sake
of argument that we get 90% compliance - which would actually
force 100% compliance since the other 10% would be stuck in
traffic.

Would the resulting traffic jams and congestion, and loss
of revenue cause government to wake up and raise the limit?

The extra beauty is that even cops and government officials
can't speed when there's 4 lanes of bumper to bumper traffic
all going 55.  They'd get frustrated pretty fast, I think.

Oh, the beauty of it - commuters, vacationers, cops, ambulances,
the President, judges, we'd *all* be stuck in traffic!  How
long would the situation last, I wonder?

--Neil

-- 
Neil Williams: neilw@informix.com

Seen on my last trip on United: "If you are seated in an exit row 
and can not (sic) read this card... please notify a crew member."
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Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:06:52 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Aug15.053956.14051@sarah.albany.edu> pv9955@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
>TAILGATING!
>I forgot what the accepted distance between cars is, that I learned in Driver
>Education.  I think it is "three seconds" from a fixed point on the side
>of the road.  

"Only a fool breaks the TWO second rule".  It rhymes, it fits it's easily
rememberable.  

I would be interested to know if the original poster actually drives at a 
three second interval.  Driving correctly at a 2 second interval seems like
an enormous distance.  Three seconds would be a _very_ long distance 
(although undoubtedly safe).

Try it sometime.  If you get to say "Only a fool" then you are.
If all you can say is "only" you're paramedic fodder.

It works too.  If you do this every day for a couple of months you tend to
drop back to a safer distance.  

Derek "Only a fool breaks the two se" Tearne

-- 

Derek Tearne. -- derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz --  Fujitsu/ICL New Zealand -- 

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From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter)
Subject: Re: Driving 55
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:40:01 GMT

>The ONLY hope, if there is a hope, is to VOTE out the people who
>created this mess and VOTE in people who are interested in safe,
>sane highways.

Anyone have a list of people for/against the current highway speed
limits?

mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
-- 
mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
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From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:44:38 GMT

In article <14200@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
>In article <23936@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) 
>writes:
>> In the DC area, there's somewhere between 5-8 million, *plus the north-south
>> traffic of I-95. On any night, when they close one lane of the freeway
>> (or 2, if they're really being pains-in-the-butt) you could have 5-20
>> mile backups at 11 or midnight. Rush hour on I-95 south of DC starts
>> somewhere around 4:30 - 5 AM, at least the earliest bumper to bumper
>> back-up I've seen on it was 20 miles long by 5 AM. I-66, the only other
>> freeway, isn't much better, nor is the beltway.

plus there's always some idiot who manages to have himself a little
accident on the beltway.  of course, people stop to rubberneck and
traffic gets backed up for miles.  the beltway is the real reason
i started biking to work instead of driving (actually takes a little
less time to bike, and much less aggravation).

>My gosh!  I didn't think there was worse traffic than what we've got!
>Ya got the Bay area beat, except when we get a backup over the mountains
>into Santa Cruz for the requisite daily crash on Highway 17.

well, i've also done a daily commute from palo alto to IBM san jose
(a little over 30 miles each way) on 101.  my d.c. commute via the
beltway is about 15 miles.  beltway traffic is definitely worse.

-teddy
p.s. i bet traffic would move a lot faster if the drivers got
zapped every time they touched the brake.
From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Date: 19 Aug 1992 21:40:39 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

>that when in heavy traffic moving near the speed limit, if I leave the
>"three-second" distance in front of me, someone will pull in and now
>we are way too close together.  Is this a possible reason for tailgating?

This is why I get into an argument with my father everytime I drive
in LA during the part of the day when this happens.  (He balks at my
tailgating...)  However, I guess he has a point.  What happens if traffic
stops all of a sudden? I guess we'll see just how much energy those energy
absorbing plastics can absorb....  :*)

David Shy
shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu
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From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:20:06 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <jimf.714081370@centerline.com>, jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
> In article @rpi.edu, johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
>>I have wondered about acceleration and the law.  Could I possibly be
>>breaking some inane law by accelerating up to, but not exceeding, the
>>posted speed limit very rapidly?  For example, using the full 0 to 45
>>potential of my car?  
> 
> In NH these actions are prosecuted by two different laws.  The obvious
> one is reckless driving, which would certainly apply to full
> accelleration at an intersection for no reason -- if something
> appeared in your path (a likely thing at an intersection) you'd have a
> hard time avoiding it.  The other law is misuse of power, which is
> usually used to prosecute people for burning out.
> 
> I always thought they ought to prosecute tire-burners for air
> pollution, but whatever works :-).
> 
> jim frost
> jimf@centerline.com

Can't cite the code sections, but in California, you can accelerate as fast as
you want to the limit provided your tires don't squeel.  If you smoke 'em up,
then it is exhibition of speed (racing...) or reckless driving depending upon
the opinion of the arresting officer.

Interesting side note on full throttle acceleration: the drivers manual for the
911 Turbo (1989, not sure of others) requires that you accelerate at full
throttle in first gear to 5000RPM once the car is warm EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE IT. 
The reason: to clean out the wastegate.  Now, 5000RPM is 35MPH, but you get
there in about 1 second :) with a lot of noice when the turbo cuts in.

Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle's)
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Kenneth K.F. Lui)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:19:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

In article <1992Aug15.061724.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> dreuben@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>tailgated on such a road - Flashing is rude as you technically have
>no place to go at the moment, and can be confusing or ambiguous. 
>
I agree with the above; and as a general rule, I usually don't
flash people if they have no place to go and they're on the
left-most lane.  Interestingly, I find that people will see me
and do actually pull over on I-280 within San Francisco (i.e.
within the city).  This is during weekdays at ~9:00-9:30am.
Usually, either people on the fast lane would pull over or I
would pass them (my car has popup headlights and there's a
delayed effect if I flash anyway).  After several cars pass the
one "hogging" the road, the hogger will usually wake up and move
over.  Sadly, things aren't this way during the weekends and
there will be those who hog the fast lane going 50mph and won't
give a damn if a steam roller is flashing them from behind.


Ken
From: mxl@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (marc.a.levy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: National Motorist Association
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:53:09 GMT
Organization: AT&T


For any of you that remember, a few months ago, I complained
that I joined the NMA, and did not receive anything from them.

I am happy to say that the situation was cleared up, and I am
now getting my news letter on a regular basis.

I received a call from a Nancy Mills from the NMA to check up,
and make sure that everything was now OK. (I was impressed)


SO, if anyone did NOT join because of my post here, feel free
to join, my case was a isolated error, most likley the US
mail's fault.. 

I would also like to question a article written in the New
Jersey newsletter about Bill S-513 that ALLOW'S insurance
company's to base insurance rates on Age, Sex, and marital
status.  I disagree with this, so why am I being asked to call
the governor and tell him to sign it?  If anything, I will
call telling him NOT to sign it.  It is unfair to assume
someone is a bad driver because of their age or sex.  I
thought that sterotyping was illegal!  

Marc.          
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