HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rick@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Fredrick Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: New rule proposal
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:53:52 GMT

I just read the Rules of Boomerang Competition used by the
Mudgeeraba Creek Emu Racing and Boomerang Throwing Association.
There is a rule in there that would really be useful at IJA
competitions, and could solve lots of problems.
It reads as follows:

 The decisions of the judges are final unless shouted down by a really
 overwhelming majority of the crowd present.

Well, now that I think about it, inviting riotous behaviour as part
of the judging process might cause a few new problems, but at
least Doubble Troubble would have a gold medal if this rule were
in effect.

There is another rule which would have only rare applications in
juggling contests, but should probably be ammended to the constitutions
of many countries:

 Any underhanded trick or legalistic use of loopholes in these rules
 by a contestant to gain an unfair advantage over other contestants
 is expressly forbidden.

Makes sense.


I'm afraid none of my phone numbers are valid site swaps, with or without
area code or long distance access.  Darn. :-(
I can do the operator's phone number though.


      Rick   Wilson             Rick Wilson       Cross-eyed STEREO
      --------------           --------------
     |       O      |         |      O       |
     |    O         |         |     O        |    rick@sable.pen.tek.com
     |              |         |              |    Tektronix
     \    _     O   |         |\    _  O     |    Beaverton, Orygun
     |\  /      _   |         | \  /   _     |
     | \/   \  /    |         |  \/\  /      | 
      --------------           --------------      
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: ecarsten@next1.cs.umr.edu (Edward Carstens)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: 4 6 1 2 6 1  2 4 1
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:14:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: umr.1992Aug27.151446.29043
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

In article <1992Aug26.105703.514@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>  writes:
> Peter Mckenzie, of Christchurch, has got into developing long word 
> length siteswaps, possibly because Computer Science is driving him 
> to distraction. 4 6 1 2 6 1 2 4 1 is his latest arrangement. I 
> tried it last night, as a side interest to 5 5 5 1 and 1 2 3 4 5. 
> It is a bit like trying to remember a 9-digit phone number, until 
> the pattern sinks in. Interesting, but not spectacular.
> GAM

Hmmm...  Interesting!  I wonder what the probability is that any 9-digit phone  
number is a valid siteswap?  Mine is 3143647536.  So let's test it.

3143647536
+
123456789A
__________
4377BAEDCG  (A=10,...G=16)

Uh, oh.  There are two 7's.  Therefore it is not valid.

Also the average of the numbers is 42/9 which is not an integer.

Let me illustrate the process just for fun:

461261241  (pattern in question)
+
123456789  (position indices)
_________
5846B79CA*  -good; no repeats so far but we really should check

each number mod 9** due to periodicity:
584627931  -excellent;  all numbers  1-9 are represented.

Note that 4+6+1+2+6+1+2+4+1 = 27/9 = 3 -ball siteswap

But we could have saved ourselves having to calculate the average to find the  
number of balls.  When we transformed the sequence to 584627931 we in effect  
subtracted 3*9 from the sum of the numbers.  (B,C, and A were changed to 2, 3,  
and 1 resp.)  Therefore, we know that there are 3 balls being juggled.***

*Here A,B,C are actually 10,11,12

** x mod 9 = the remainder after dividing x by 9
   Here, though, the exception is when x=9.  x mod 9 = 0 but I change the zero  
to a 9.

*** the proof is left as an exercise ;-) i.e. I can't do it so I'll let you!

Anybody have any phone numbers that are valid siteswaps?

-Ed Carstens
Creator of JugglePro
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: IP95420@portland.BITNET
Subject: Things 'n' stuff
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date:    Fri, 28 Aug 92 15:46:20 EDT

The best I can do as far as a valid site swap phone# is my area code: 207
I keep myself busy on the highway looking for site swaps on liscense plates.
Mine, being "JUGLER" is probably not a possibility.  Bill Giduz, I almost

forgot you were with us hereon the net.  If you're still looking for
juggler plates for JW, this is Rod Kimball, and I live in Portland, ME.

My latest tricks:  561 and 6671     Try 'em.  You'll like 'em!
Rod
From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: 4 6 1 2 6 1 2 4 1
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:26:39 EDT
	<1992Aug27.144138.1350@news.cs.indiana.edu> <kleber.714959168@husc10>
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: kleber@husc10.harvard.edu's message of 27 Aug 92 19:46:08 EDT

In article <kleber.714959168@husc10> kleber@husc10.harvard.edu (Gwydden) writes:


   Well, someone's gotta do it...

   > Hmmm...  Interesting!  I wonder what the probability is that any 9-digit 
   > phone number is a valid siteswap?

   Actually, phone numbers with area codes are *ten* digits, each 0-9, which
   makes the problem one helluvalot easier--

Huh?  well, because mod 10 is easy :-) but Ed has his secret notation
for digits greater than 9 ;-)

   > There's no reason why you should break between each digit...
   > 31436 47536
   > is a valid site swap, also (marginally easier?)
   > 314 364 7536
   > is a nice 3 ball pattern, though hard to perform indoors.

   Hmm?  Isn't that a 2,738-ball pattern?  I don't think it's legal, though...

Nope, it's not.  Throw 2 (a 364) and throw 52 (a 314) both land in the
second (R?) hand at time 366.

That would qualify as a very excited site swap - the startup pattern
would be over 2500 throws!

I bet Fergie would either salivate mightily or resign from the
business at the thought of a 2,738-bag order...
--
/jr, aka John Robinson                       Place stamps here
internet: jr@ksr.com                    Post Office will not deliver
uucp: {world,harvard,uunet}!ksr!jr      mail without correct postage
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: emp@xgml.com (Eric Promislow)
Subject: Re: Hello hello hello hello hello!   : )
Summary: Unmistaken identity
Organization: Clutter & Vine
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:56:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.072834.5088@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> trebor@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Robert Harris) writes:
>Dear Mr. Bear (if that is your real name),
>
>Please keep network traffic newsworthy, and noise to a minimum.
[sig deleted]

No man, you've got it all wrong!  Mr. Harris, if that is _your_ real
name, many of us here know Travis as the organizer of several U. Mass
conventions, including the Feb. '91 one that featured the best convention
T-shirt I have in my drawer.  Welcome aboard, Travis.


-- 
-- Eric Promislow--emp@xgml.com--Exoterica Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: S092217@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU
Subject:      314-469-3136 (4-ball siteswap)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:15:29 CDT

No.. I don't know who's phone number it is.  But maybe I'll go ahead and
try it and see who I get at the other end.  Won't they be surprised to
find out how special their phone number is!!  BTW, I found Kleber's
last article very interesting... it looks like the probability is very
low.  Good work!

How did I come up with the number?  I looked at my number and changed it
a little bit to make it valid.  I decided to keep the 314 area code and
just fiddle with the exchange.

-Ed Carstens
Creator of JugglePro
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: me@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Martin Frost)
Subject: Re: 10 ball record
Reply-To: me@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:54:25

In article <9208212208.aa02440@nullset.UUCP> day!nullset!rick@uwm.edu (Richard J. Moll) writes:

   From: day!nullset!rick@uwm.edu (Richard J. Moll)
   Date: 22 Aug 92 03:08:05 GMT

	   Obviously Guinness has their own rules, but I'm just wondering
   if the following is correct:

	   By IJA competition rules, 20 throws of 10 balls would *not*
   be a qualifying juggle, since the 13th catch would break the pattern.
   A 10 ball juggle would require at least 28 throws to have 20 in-pattern
   catches.

No, the IJA requires 2N catches but counts all collections at the end
without a drop.  So you can make 20 throws and then just collect them all
(well, you could if you were good) and that would qualify as juggling 10
balls for the IJA competition.  You don't even have to catch them in your
hands, as long as they don't hit the floor (or ground or whatever).
--
------------------
Martin Frost		Computer Science Department, Computer Facilities
Systems Programmer	Stanford University, Stanford, CA  94305-2140
me@CS.Stanford.EDU	(or decwrl!labrea!me or mfrost@stanford.bitnet)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: day!nullset!rick@uwm.edu (Richard J. Moll)
Subject: Numbers competition rules
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 8:48:54 CDT
X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2)

Martin Frost (me@CS.Stanford.EDU) writes, in answer to my question about
the IJA numbers competition:

> No, the IJA requires 2N catches but counts all collections at the end
> without a drop.  So you can make 20 throws and then just collect them all
> (well, you could if you were good) and that would qualify as juggling 10
> balls for the IJA competition.  You don't even have to catch them in your
> hands, as long as they don't hit the floor (or ground or whatever).

Thanks for the setting me straight.  That may put me just years away
from 9 balls, rather than decades.

Does anyone know how I could get a copy of the IJA numbers competition
rules?  Perhaps some industrious soul could post the rules for the
various competitions?

--Rick Moll  (technician, not artist)
rick@nullset.UUCP
From: miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu (PHILLIP_SANMIGUEL)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Directions to Purdue Jugglefest
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:45:59 GMT
Reply-To: miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University AIDS Center

As previously announced, the Purdue Labor Day Weekend Fall Jugglefest is this 
Saturday (8am-8pm) and Sunday (9am-5pm).  I've been asked to re-post 
directions.

Take Interstate 65 (North from Indianapolis, South from Chicago). Near
Lafayette, take the exit for State Road 26 West.  Stay on 26 all the way
through downtown Lafayette and cross the Wabash River into West Lafayette.
26 is called State Street in West Lafayette.  When it is obvious that you
are on campus, start looking for University Avenue. (The first light on
campus is Grant St, the next light is Circle Drive, and the next light will
be University Avenue).  Turn right on University Ave.  The Armory is the
huge building on the right after the traffic light.  You can park in the
lot just past the Armory on the right. 

We look forward to seeing you on Saturday! 

[Sandy Amass asks me to announce she will have hand-painted combat shirts 
for sale at the juggle fest for $10.  This is a new design.]

                                    _            _
__________________________  _      (_)  ________(_)________________________
Phillip SanMiguel        _/  \     /  \  Purdue University Juggling Club
miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu (_)   \   /    |   *Juggling*Unicycling*COMBAT*
         _               |      x    _ | 1001 Stewart Center, Box 665
________(_)______________ \_ _ / \ _(_) _West_Lafayette,_Indiana__47907-1001   
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson)
Subject: Re: Combining balancing with juggling?
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:21:18 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 35ff4ae69b298ce96ad923acc3787222

In article <92239.184228NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>It's a slow news day, so here goes:
>
>I've been trying to learn to juggle while balancing
>a club on my chin and I haven't been having lot of success.
>(Although, I must admit that I haven't put very many hours
>into it, _yet_.) Does anyone out there have some helpful tips?
>

One tip that I can offer is this:  Balance the club on your chin and, with a
club in each hand, make big alternating circles with your forearms as if you
were actually juggling (but you aren't releasing the clubs).  This allows you
to concentrate on the balance while adjusting the movement of the arms and the
body.

>
>Someone suggested it might help to practise juggling
>three clubs with my head tilted back looking at the
>ceiling - then try to combine it with the balance.
>Has anyone had success with this method?
>

This is a tip that I have heard as well.

Balancing combined with juggling, so someone mentioned back in the listserver
days (or was it the early usenet days, my how time has flown...), is ~very~
difficult.  But it is one of the ~coolest~ tricks that a juggler can do.
Someday I hope to be able to do it...
-- 
Mark Olson  || marko@IMD.Sterling.COM -or- uunet!sparky!marko
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: terry@santafe.edu (Terry Jones)
Subject: JugglePro 2.3 INFO
Resent-Message-Id: <920827.123503.CDT.S092217@UMRVMA>
Resent-Date:  Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:35:03 CDT
Resent-To: juggling@piggy.cogsci.indiana.edu
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Resent-From: S092217@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 17:38:11 MDT

*******************************************************
*            J u g g l e P r o    2 . 3               *
*******************************************************

Here is some helpful info on downloading (thank you Terry)...

All the following directories live under /pub/juggling/programs on
moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu. For detailed instructions on how to
retrieve files via ftp or mail, send mail to
    juggling-request@moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu
with the command
    send FAQ.1
in the body of the mail. This will get you part one of the Frequently
Asked Questions file. Requesting FAQ.2 will get you the second part.
If this does not seem to work, also include a line like
    from your-email-address-here
in your mail to tell the mail server on moocow how to reply to you.

##########
1) If you have ftp, tar and compress:
       ibm-pc/jugglepro-2.3.tar.Z
   This file contains the whole thing.

##########
2) If you have ftp but not both of tar and compress:
       ibm-pc/jugglepro-2.3
   A directory with everthing unpacked.

##########
3) If you can receive a 290K file in the mail and you have
   tar, compress and uudecode.
       ibm-pc-uuencoded/jugglepro-2.3.tar.Z.uu
   A file with whole thing, tarred, compressed and uuencocded.

##########
4) If you can only get small (24K) files in the mail and you have
   tar, compress and uudecode.
       ibm-pc-uuencoded/jugglepro-2.3.tar.Z.uu.aa
   through
       ibm-pc-uuencoded/jugglepro-2.3.tar.Z.uu.al
   As above, but in 12 small pieces.

##########
5) If you don't have ftp or tar or compress, but you do have uudecode.
       ibm-pc-uuencoded/jugglepro-2.3
   The whole thing, unpacked, with binary files uuencoded.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: yking@cs.ubc.ca (Yossarian Yggy King)
Subject: SSS problem -- "-p" option
Keywords: bug fix
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:45:30 GMT


I just got email from someone who has made me realize that I
owe an apology to whoever (sorry, I forget) said that the -p
option wasn't working for them. There is actually a conflict
between "-p" and other options that start with a "p" (like
-pagesize etc.) The reason I didn't notice it before is that
if the number of cycles for a pattern segment is specified,
as in the four cycles of "-p4" then there's no problem, and
I guess this is the only testing I did (oops).
	Anyways, the fix (one fix, other work too) is to use the
following in the read_comline() procedure:

		/* Read a pattern if the switch is either
		   exactly "-p" or "-p" followed by a digit
		   or just a digit */
	else if (
	   (mystrnicmp(av[arg],"-p",2) == 0 && strlen(av[arg]) == 2)
	|| (mystrnicmp(av[arg],"-p",2) == 0 && ISDIGIT(av[arg][2]))
	|| ISDIGIT(av[arg][0]))

which just makes sure that the "-p" is not matched if there
is more to the word. (Another solution is to move the check
for -p below the check for other "p" options, but the order-
dependency is a little ugly.)
	If you're worried about making the change yourself,
then hold off a couple days and get a new copy of sss.c from
the ftp site ... I'll put it there soon and report when it's
ready. The other alternative is just to use -p1 (or whatever)
in place of -p.
	Again, I apologize to the person who's complaint I
dismissed last time, and thanks to Mike Hatalski for pointing
out the problem in a way that my feeble mind managed to comprehend.
--
Yggy King	| "Outside of a dog, a book is a person's best friend;	
UBC Comp Sci	|     inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
B.C., Canada	|		    --Groucho Marx
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: nextug@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Juggling with PIN's
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:57:09 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

To cdw10@ liverpool.ac.uk:

Methinks you miss the jest. Juggling a credit card number . . . ?
	
Viz PIN: it is quite true that the 'N' in PIN stands for 'number' as the 'V' in HIV 
stands for 'virus.' Nevertheless usage in the English language is such that people say 
(for instance) "my PIN  number" and "the HIV virus" rather than "my PI number" or "the 
HI virus." It may, strictly speaking,  be redundant but such are the conventions of 
usage as they apply to acronyms. Factor 'cringe' into it, if you so desire.

Duane Starcher writes:
 
> Would you please also post your Visa, MasterCard and PIN numbers 
> for those of us who would like to test them out for telephone orders,    
>etc.  Have you tried Expiry Dates yet?  Perhaps you could include those too.

 Hmm, let's see here, where are they . . .  ahh yes:
 
 Visa 2307 888 103 900    expiry 01/91
 Mastercard 7071 6738 5089 9376    expiry 05/89
 
 Haven't had much success with them recently for some reason. Can't figure it out.
 
 By the way I have a bunch of blank cheques here that I don't need. If anyone wants
 my autograph I can sign one and send it along . . . Just drop me a line . . .
 
 Fiducially yours,
 Christopher Majka
 nextug@ac.dal.ca
From: EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans)
Subject: Re: Recomend good LORAN ???
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:12:20 GMT

In article <STEPH.92Aug31160435@candide.uchicago.edu>
steph@cs.uchicago.edu (Stephen Wilson Bailey) writes:
 
          ...most of the useful stuff deleted...
 
>Also, its ``time to go'' function seems brain dead, inasmuch as it
>just divides the distance by your speed over ground, ignoring your
>course over ground.  You could be heading directly away from the
>waypoint at it would still give you a non-infinite time to go.
 
As long as the earth is still round, the answer SHOULD be non-infinite.
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: billp@voyager.chm.clarkson.edu (Bill Plunkett)
Subject: streching a tarp (was Re: re: Winter Boat Storage)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:21:10 GMT

From article <1992Aug27.185116.9345@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>, by dbyrne@ldgo.columbia.edu (deidre byrne):
> 
> clears the highest point on deck by a few inches.  The tarp drapes over this
> like a boom tent and is lashed down all around to your cradle or trailer.  

I saw a clever arrangement once:  A sailboat stored like this, except
that the tarp was not tied down to the cradle.  Instead, weights were
hung (gallon plastic milk jugs filled with water) from the eyelets
along each side of the tarp.  The tarp was probably tied somewhere (to
the apex of the tent - the mast - at each end) just to keep it from
shifting or disappearing in a storm.  This is very nice, if you think
about it.  Tied to something solid, the lines and tarp would
eventually slacken and start to flog in the wind.  This could hasten
the deterioration and further loosening.  Wrinkles would form and might
hold moisture, freezing and causing eventual cracks.  If the tarp can
be kept taught, with a constant tension, all of this can be prevented;
it should last much longer.  You might even get respectable milage out
of one of those blue plastic ones.  Bungees would work instead of
weights, but the jugs of water are free, won't loose their strech (who
cares if they freeze) and you don't need a place to hook the other end.

-billp
From: steph@cs.uchicago.edu (Stephen Wilson Bailey)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Awesome sailing last weekend, huh?
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:49:37 GMT
	<la9lthINN2ls@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> <24478@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Chicago Computer Science

It _howled_ under a clear sky in Chicago this past weekend.  Sunday we
raced in 25-35 knot winds.  Blew up our blooper and tore our main, but
we finished second, so that took some of the sting out of it.  A
Beneteau 1 ton lost her rig, and there was all manner of other
carnage---broaches spinouts, etc..

It's great fun with a full crew, but a little scary, since it ain't
what we're used to.  Having a chicken chute (2.2 oz) was a big
advantage to us 'cause we could fly it when other boats were unwilling
to fly chutes.

Hopefully there'll be more days like that.

Steph
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: rbaist@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (robert.t.baist)
Subject: Re: Bayliner myths: a challenge
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:21:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.194942.21346@cbfsb.cb.att.com> heon@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (garry.j.heon) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.190840.26391@cs.ubc.ca>, goldberg@cs.ubc.ca (Murray W. Goldberg) writes:
>> >Very well said.  ......
>> [and goes on to say....]
>> > ....  I must admit it's [the ferry's] wake is
>> > very large (broke an arm of a passenger jumping it myself),
>> 
>  So NO I was not even near the ferry or any
>other boat.  I NEVER operate my boat at high speeds or in a dangerous
>manor when other boats are in the area! 
>        NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!  Get the point. 
>  Some people bungee jump, sky dive, scuba dive with sharks.....whatever.
>I perfer to go out in the middle of the ocean and beat the living shit
>
Gary---
At least you go out to the ocean to do this! I sail on Barnegat Bay and when  
I'm out there I get 40' cigarette boats going flat out (80mph+) buzzing me 
by 20 - 30 feet. I guess "a safe distance" is a relative thing, but I'll tell 
you that my 4 yr old son doesn't appreciate the noise of these a@@holes and 
I don't either. Let alone the safety factor...If they sneeze, they could cut 
my boat in half. I think they should put a speed limit on the bay to force all 
the speed freaks out to the ocean for their fun. I have no problem with 
speed in the right place. 

Bob B.
"Sheer Delight"
Disclaimer - my thought's - not AT&T's
From: jeffh@nonsuch.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Huntington)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Bayliner Boats
Date: 28 Aug 1992 21:35:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jeffh@nonsuch.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: nonsuch.ebay.sun.com

In article 1283@niktow.canisius.edu, pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov) writes:
> In article <1992Aug19.025924.6577@phx.mcd.mot.com>, dbk@phx.mcd.mot.com (Dave Kinzer) writes:
> > 
> > He mentioned that I should have no problems with the hull,
> > as his, a 21 foot Sea Ray, has up to eight inches of layed up fiberglass
> > in stratigic areas.



I think the old adage "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what
you see" applies here.  :-)

Jeff Huntington
From: David.Greenberg@f764.n153.z1.fido.zeta.org.au (David Greenberg)
Sender: UUCP@ship.UUCP