From: mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Subject: Re: RJB
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:17:13 GMT

In article <F43703A.93Jan23193419@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp> f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA) writes:
>In article <llp0vrINNb06@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> naga@sparcbiz2.Eng.Sun.COM (NAGA) writes:
>
> |
> |
> |    With a lot of talk on the net as to how Kashmir is going to be
> | "liberated" soon, let's pause for a moment and take a look at the reality:
> |
> |	  1) Anyone that have  aspirations with regard to "liberating" Kashmir,
> |	     might have to face full brunt of a  nuclear war in the region. Anybody,
> |	     that thinks India is going to let go of Kashmir after a conventional war,
> |	     must be living in a "fool's paradise".                                        
> |
> |	  2) The development of indigenous advanced missile technology in India, would only
> |	     make delivering the above weapons anywhere in south Asia much easier.
> |
> |	  3) With a BJP run GOI (it is just a matter of time before they take power),
> |	     swift and appropriate decisive response would be the order of the day to such aspirations,
> |	     as supposed to spineless and gutless indecisive reactions from the current GOI.
> |	     Moreover, BJP openly favors manufacturing nuclear weapons and would model the nation's
> |	     security similar to Israel. 
> |
> | 
> |  The best chance that anyone had of "liberating" Kashmir was in the sixties and seventies. We all
> | know how it turned out when it was tried at that time. It is the recognition of these facts that
> | have made US to consider labelling Pakistan as a "terrorist" state to de-escalate the crisis in
> | Kashmir.
> |
> | Also, continuing ethnic strife in India due to the cohort meddling from outside forces in the internal
> | affairs of India, might also lead to the eventual use of nuclear weapons on them.               
> |
> | Under these circumstances, the "status quo" is probably the best solution with regard to Kashmir. 
> | It is in the best interests of both, India and Pakistan, to maintain just that.
> |	      
>
>
>I agree to all these feeling writen by you. One more thing is very clear.
>Congress apeasing Muslim population for vote is not going to pay long .
>enough.  
>
>Maintaining status quo is a temporary solution, cannot be a lasting one.
>
>
>I personally feel that boths sides have done and are doing grave mistakes.
>On one side Muslim population is not joining the main stream and trying to
>develop it self. Irrespective of the religion they should join good schools
>for education. I remember a article that some news paper organisation had
>done a survey on muslim populationn and foumd that muslim population lad
>the highest level of school drop outs. This is not a purely economical
>point of view.
>
>I still remember that I had only very few muslim friends (according to
>my knowledge only 1 in my batch 1990 IITM) and was from a well to do
>family and is in US now. It does not represent the 12% population
>of Islam. This is not a minority problem or economic problem. This is
>a clear problem in mentality of muslim population in India. Atleast I
>can say that IIT entrance does not have any Bias. Niether can it be 
>true that economical situation in India between Hidus and Muslims are 330:1.
>
>
>Some muslims may argue that, how can we send our children to Hindu
>oriented schools. I can strongly say that IIT is not such a institution.
>There will be many arround to back me on this point. 
>
>How can muslims expect that Hindu people will leave there traditions.
>
>This is all against Muslims. 
>
>Now I want to say on mistakes of Hindu society. It still embaraces
>caste system. Till the reservation was implemented, all jobs were
>granted seeing the family names. Here I am not talking of Highly 
>technical jobs. Here I am talking of the general jobs. 
>Again speaking, If This caste system is not broken, NO BJP can stop
>problems between comuunities by use of Neuclear weapon. YYou can use
>neuclear weapon against Pakistan, the real enemy of India, but how can 
>you usse it against your own people? Say like Assam?  I am from Assam.
>I am a bengali. My family was fucked out of bangladesh. We moved into
>Assam, because of economic reason. And what India gave us? A second
>class citizenship? Why?
>
>IS IT THE MISTAKE OF ASSMESE POPULATION? No it is again the problem with 
>congress? They tried to appease minority vote bank. Their old divide 
>and rule concept? 
>
>CONGRESS/INDIA NEVER BOTHERED ABOUT THE DEVELOPEMENT OF ASSAM. Really
>speaking Assam has the capacity of becoming a OIL RICH/ TEA RICH country
>if left alone. You can ask how about technology? There is a saying that
>DHAN CHITALE KAKER ABHAB HAY NA. There no scarcity of crows if you spread
>rice.
>
>So don't say that INDIA is laways the good fellow arround.
>
>Take for example the case of Srilankan Tamils. They were in problem
>in their country. So They were becoming a refugee problem in India.
>We trained them. CAN YOU DISAGREE THAT INDIA TRAINED LTTE? You can defend
>Training MUKTI BAHINI saying that Pakis were buthering Bengalis. So we
>liberated them. But what did we gave them? First train them, then send
>Indian army to stop them, (INdian army did rape women there, I can bet on it.
>Because they did the same in ASSAM. there are proof of it. But all Indians
>are not to be blamed for it.)  
>
>So EK HATE TALI BAJE NA. You cannot clap with one hand.
>
>So like Pakistan and muslim society has to come to reality and accept us,
>and Hindu society and walk along with it, simillarly we have also to
>understand our mistakes and come to reality. 
>
>NORTH INDIA CANNOT RULE INDIA ANY MORE.

Prime Minister of India : South India
Finance Minister of India : North India
Home Minister of India : South west India
Defence Minister of India : South west India.

Out of the four most important positions in India only one is from
the North, and that too he is a Sikh, which as you know is a minority
group.  You have been away from India too long South India has taken
over.

>
>--
>With regards
> 
>SUPRATIC GUPTA

Manoj