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From: lewchuk@cs.UAlberta.CA (Michael Lewchuk)
Subject: Re: COVOX: Do NOT buy their products!!!
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:46:59 GMT

savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia) writes:
>I believe, John, that this constitutes false advertising.
>You bought a product that was advertised to have a certain
>feature that it didn't have.  You were not misinformed.
>I'd get every organization possible after them meaning
>the Better Business Bureau, the company you bought it from,
>the magazine you might have bought it out of and if you got
>through the mail, you could even try mail fraud.  >Rick

I agree.  The operative word here is "fraud" or "false advertising".
Don't know the legal definition of fraud.  To me, they're the same, just
different names.

The better business bureau, should be interested.  The company you bought
it from could itself be under flack if it fails to act in SOME responsible
way once they are notified that this is in fact the case, since they are
selling a product and if they knew it was not up to specs, they should do
something like send the stuff back or put big signs nearby and have sales
people tell the customers that the product is not what it is supposed to be.
I believe the former would be easier since apologizing reduces power of sales
techniques and would probably discourage the user from dealing with the store
in the future.

Hmm... mail fraud... do I see an FBI rerun coming on?  
<Two guys lurking in car>... "Yeah, they've got the Covox sound packs, let's
nail 'em" ... "Freeze, FBI"....

Anyways, thought you guys could use a laugh with all this seriousness here.

Or am I mixed up in who handles these cases (I know little of US legal
jurisdiction).

You could also try "the press" if these techniques fail.  I'm sure they'd
be as much or more interested than we would.

					Michael Lewchuk
					lewchuk@cs.UAlberta.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: ivarh@mynet.no (Ivar E. Hosteng)
Subject: Elite plus on a PC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:11:12 GMT
Organization: Mynet A/S. Oslo, Norway Tel: +47 2 68 11 50

I have bougth the PC version of elite + and have been playing it for a
while now. This game is a winner! I first played it on my Cbm64 for
about a halt year before i got tired of it. I then played it on my
brothers Amiga and learned about a cheat mode (or game editor) that
was activated by appending SARA to the word from the manual that is
requierd to start the game. I just wonder if there is a simular cheat
on the PC version. It's not the method with typeing SARA as it is in
the Amiga version.



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From: Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay)
Subject: Re: How do I SLAY Lord British in U7?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:41:23 GMT

ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG) writes:

>I read the clue in the book I found at Skara Brae, but I don't understand it.
>I've finished the game already so I want to mess around. Origin supposibly
>included an 'official' way to kill LB. Since the blackrock sword doesn't
>exist, then there must be another way. Anybody got a clue? Thanks!

Got to LB's castle courtyard.  For an hour every morning, LB lounges about in
the entrance to his throne room.  While he's doing so, look at the plaque
over his head...

Remember to search the body!  :-)

Alexx

Alexx@world.std.com
"It was a mutual parting of the ways.  We gave him the freedom to
 do what he wanted to do."
"What was that?"
"Drink himself to death."
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From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: Darkland ?????
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:03:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep09.124704.11777@srg.srg.af.mil> dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes x4552) writes:

)In article <1992Sep9.025820.29482@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
)>(Darklands has...) annoying
)>anti-piracy messages at install time (call 1-800-rat-on-those-evil-pirates
)>and do the right thing, a reward is hinted at but not actually promised,
)>actually I wonder just what will happen to those stu - umm moral - enough to
)>call it) copy protection  system will halt game with no chance
)>to save if you drop a book on the keyboard at wrong time looking up those
)>alchemical copy-protection symbols (found this out the hard way.)
)
)Sorry, you didn't read this.  It says that if you did not buy it, they suggest
)"doing the right thing" and purchasing it.  The number they give is for their
)800 order line.  Not a rat on the pirate line.  No reward is hinted at or
)promised.
)
)BTW, if you are "stu - umm moral - enough to call" the number, you'll get
)a nice person asking you want you want to buy.  Simple enough?  Next time
)read what's in front of you before you try to ignite another idiotic flamefest.
)
)		David Pipes

Thanks for your concern, but if you are actually _not_ interested in igniting
a flamefest, you might consider moderating the tone of your own posts.  BTW,
since I usually post from work, it would be rather difficult to 'read what
is in front of me' - the message wasn't in front of me.  In fact, I read it
a couple of days ago, back when I was installing the package.  I thought it
was worth commenting on, even though I couldn't quote it exactly and
precisely in true exacting Usenet(tm) style.

I thought the anti-piracy message was rather inappropriate and vague, and
I felt insulted by it.  I also thought their concern was rather misplaced
considering the size of the package (17+ megs on 10 disks).  I'd suggest that
if they wanted to be more clear about the purpose of the 800 number (thanks
for the info on what it was, BTW) they could have mentioned that it was
their order number rather than nattering on about 'doing the right thing'.
I think they were being deliberately vague, but perhaps it simply was very
poor writing on their part.

I found the copy protection system more aggravating than the anti-piracy
message, though.  Having one lookup at the beginning of the game isn't too
bad if it's not hard to find, but having the game boot you out when you drop
the manual on the keyboard because you're pulling it off the top of the
computer to look up the codes is defintely aggravating.  However, since the
game crashed several times on me since then in the middle of play, :-(, 
there are other more serious problems.  I'd still suggest that more concern
for the customer and less concern for piracy would be in MPS's best
interests.
From: DSVOWE01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (DAVID S. VOWELS/HSC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Kyrandia: Fixing the Bridge, help needed
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:16:10 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

Hi,

	I've just starting playing Kyrandia and I am stumped. Krynn is gone, I
have the amulet, and I can not get across the broken bridge. The bridge I'm
assuming leads to the timbermist woods, where Dram is. Where do you find the
planks to fix it? The only thing I've found that was close to it, was the sign
on Brandons home, but I can't pick that up! Any help would be greatly
appreciated, as I'm tired of watching a tight rope walking Brandon take a swim.
:)

						Scott.
Organization: Ministry of Education, Computer Center NETNEWS system V2.3
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 23:58:00 EST
From: <PTYWANG@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Can't run CD-ROM INTERACTICE STORYTIME 1&2

When I run CD-ROM INTERACTIVE STORYTIME 1 or 2, nothing showed up on the
screen at all.  When I run lwr.exe instead of go.bat,  I will be told
that"no folder is open".  What should I do now?  I have no problems running
other CD-ROM DOS version games but these two and LOOM.   Help!


Philip      PTYWANG@TWNMOE10
From: ronr@ateami2.EBay.Sun.COM (RON RICHARDSON WCO PM x34577 BPR: 415-940-8055)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: SQ4: help wanted for Roger in tulnnel wit
Date: 14 Sep 1992 17:02:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ronr@ateami2.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: ateami2.ebay.sun.com

It's based on a 360degree circle.  

Ron

In article FgqyqB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, pjb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul Bolle) writes:
mdewinter@vms.eurokom.ie writes:

- hi,
- Roger Wilco in trouble.
- After blowing the cigar smoke in the tunnel
- he sees the laser beams (?) guarding the tunner
- There is a kind of a security type-in-the correct-number thing
- in the tunnel, but RW hasn't got any number to type in.
- What am I missing???
- Regards,
- Guy.

        Click the eye cursor on the keypad next to Rog (on the wall). 
Key in "128", then enter, "24"(and enter), and then "256" (and enter 
again). This should line the beams up so you can walk thru 'em.
        'S been awhile, so the numbers may be off. The numbers are 

Whoops, disregard that last piece o' sentence. :)
If you punch in the numbers, and the beams still don't line up, just keep 
entering the number 12. Sooner or later you can get thru.

        Later...

Paul Bolle              pjb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: Ian_Upright@mindlink.bc.ca (Ian Upright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Network or Modem games?  Wanted!
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:53:13 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Does anyone know if there are any good network or modem games available?
Commercial or Shareware?  I know there is Falcon 3.0 or something.. Is it
any good?   What other commercial games can you play over the modem that
were made recently?  (I'm not talking about Heilcoper Simulator or some
dumb chess game over the modem..)  Is there any good shareware games out
there?  I'd like to play a cool tank game over the network/modem.. I heard
there might be some.. Any ideas?


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From: jwilbur@iat.holonet.net (Jay Wilbur)
Subject: Re: WOLF3d - Joystick trimming!
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:13:26 GMT

day_c@cs.uwa.oz.au (Dead nose!) writes:
: 	I know there are a lot of Wolf3D players out there, so does
: anybody know if there is some way to adjust the sensitivity of the
: joystick. The default movements is just too huge too target accurately.
: 	Another thing, sometimes the joystick backwards direction will
: not work, varies between reloads.
: 	HELP PLEASE!

We;ll have a joystick calibration routine built into thesoon to be
released  v1.4 update.
 
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From: tad2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Terry A. Donaghe)
Subject: Spear of Destiny??
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:16:36 GMT

I've got a list of games and when they're supposed to be out, and
one of the games is called Spear of Destiny.  It's supposed to be
an Apogee game, and the release date is today (Sept. 15).  Does
anyone have any information about it?  If someone gets it from the
Apogee BBS, PLEASE upload it to wuarchive or ftp.ulowell.edu!!!


THANKS

TAD
tad2@ra.msstate.edu

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From: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick)
Subject: Re: Leisure Suit Larry 5: Major Dissapointment!!!
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:07:41 GMT

rlwst8+@pitt.edu (Robert L Williamson) writes:

>I recently finished Leisure Suit Larry 5 and I think it was a MAJOR dissapointment!  Yes the graphics were good but I expected more from it.  I think Larry 3
>was much better!


>				Rob   

Is the VGA version of LSL1 worth buying if
you know the EGA/CGA version of by heart

Most importantly :-

Do they take advantage of VGA when you die of the
atomic clap.

Can you still drown in the toilet

Do they still use the censored boxes

What happens when you eat the Spanish fly

Do they still have the inflatable doll.


What else do they add.  I spent 3 to 6 months when
it first came out, looking at every nook
and cranny of the program.
(And I can almost type in every command line in sequence
from memory.)
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From: masten@beta.lanl.gov (David A. Masten)
Subject: Re: Chuck Yeager Rating
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 05:38:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.014026.22249@cos.com> cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper) writes:
>>>I liked CYAC a lot.  Great for medium machines like 12-20 mhz.  Gets you
>>>up and flying in no time.  Very nice plane graphics.  Great dogfighting
>>>fun.  More than acceptable flight model (I'll let others differ).  Easy
>>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I have to agree with this also.  I think its better that Falcon 3.0 for
>>just a plain flight sim, and 'feel' of the plane.
>
>I must disagree totally ( and I feel Dave will too) the flight model
>in CYAC comes nowhere NEAR being as accurate as F3 (The only one
>that does is FS4).  There was absolutely NO angle-of-attack representation
>in CYAC, and AoA is the heart of flying.  AoA is, in the most basic

OK, Dave responds:
Yep, F3 has the best flight model of all combat sims.  I have FS4, but
got F3 about 3 weeks later, so you can guess how much I've used it!  The
main thing I liked about CYAC's models were that they were so different
for each plane (well, at least each era).  Whilst in F3, the only
difference I see between a MIG29 and MIG19 is the armament (and MIG10
:-)).

Just got Birds of Prey today.  First impressions are not very positive.
Really brings home how good F3 is.  Start expecting too much from F3,
then see that it is light years ahead of these new releases.  BoP may
still be decent as a beer and pretzels sim.

>Back to the original question - the only sims which have kept my 
>attention for more than, say, one hour for every dollar I've spent
>on them are FS4, Red Baron, and Falcon 3.0 (which is rapidly approaching
>pennies per hour! :>) 

Hmm, I'd put it at about @0.20/hr for me, maybe less.

Dave Masten
From: 890560p@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trevor Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Links386 putting?
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:09:12 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

tozz@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Bob Tausworthe) writes:

>>>used SuperVGA. ie greater than 640x480
>>>Is this correct?
>>
>>Yes, it requires SVGA. The default mode is 640x480, but it will go
>>up to 1024x768.

>How do you get the higher modes? Does it actually fill the screen at 1024x768
>or do you get a 640x480 portion of your screen filled?

The default mode is actually 640x400, not 640x480.  The game does not fill
the screen at modes higher than 640x480, it tiles the unused portion of the
screen with a links 386 pro logo.  You can force the game to use the higher
resolution modes by issuing a parameter at load time.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: cl129502@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: WC2 Info Needed
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:22:04 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Does anyone know how to rescue pilots who have ejected in Wing Commander 2? 
Any help would be appreciated.

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From: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com (Ross Erickson)
Subject: Re: X-Wing Sneak Preview
Reply-To: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:27:36 GMT

We (Game Bytes) just received some screen shots of X-Wing yesterday
and it looks HOT!  We'll be doing a full preview of it, with screen
shots, in Game Bytes #6.

>Anyway the news:
>Unlike Lawrence Holland's other games (SWOTL, BoB, BH1942) this one uses
>polygon graphics, yeah!  I don't like the way the bit-mapped planes in
>SWOTL, WC, etc can have only a few orientations.
>It will apparently take the simulation term more seriously than WC,
>though still somewhat non-Newtonian in nature.  
>The Death Star attack forms the basis of the last of 3 tours of duty.
>You don't meet Han, Luke, etc.
>Will have a 96 page novella, and 'Clawmarks" like docs.
>You only fly the Rebel fighters (A, X, Y wings).
>No mission designer, boo.  Though the reviewer envisions add-ons like
>SWotL's.
>
>If you want to know more, get the mag!  It's worth it.  Once more I plug
>CGW.  Its so intelligently done, I almost don't get embarrassed if
>someone sees it on my shelves.  Almost.

Aw c'mon Dave, Game Bytes is cheaper!! :-)

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From: mch0@harvey.gte.com (Michael Hatz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Falcon3.0 Joystick Problems
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:48:44 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

I just installed the 3.0d upgrade in Falcon 3.0.  The problem I am having is
that my joystick is not working.  I have a CH Flightstick hooked to a Gravis
Elminator game card.  The joystick does work on my other games.  What is
happening is when I go to instant action and the flight starts my F16 is
spinning out of control.  The fire buttons seem to work but the plane
corkscrews and eventually augres into the ground.  YES the config is setup for
joystick input.  Thanks for any help.

==============================
         Mike Hatz
   GTE Government Systems
 Colorado Springs, Colorado
       :Internet:
 hatzm%venus.dnet@GTE.COM
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: csandrew@uxmail.ust.hk (Andrew Wat)
Subject: Re: Out of this World (HELP needed + Possible SPOILERS)
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:07:56 GMT

In article <BALTES.92Sep7093333@fsc.cpsc.UCalgary.ca> baltes@cpsc.UCalgary.ca (Hansjorg Baltes) writes:
>Hi,
>is there a hint list for out of this world? I am stuck on the
>level after the one where you empty the water tank.
>
>I drop down on the floor. My blocky friend is in the tunnel below
>me. I run to the right, shoot down one guard, go right, take care of 
>the guy behind the doors, continue right until I shoot down a 
>green ball from the ceiling. I go back, down the stairs, take care
>of the guy to my left, shoot down the lights, so that my blocky
>friend can go on, go to the right, take care of the guard that
>only comes out when you try to go right from the stairs.
>
>So far so good, but now, I am trying to go further right and
>when I enter the corridor, two guards attack me from both sides,
>guns blasting. WHAT DO I DO?
>
>Thanks,
>	Jacky

It is the most difficult part in the game. You have to run to the right side
guard and just after he has put his shield on. Knee down and let your hand 
just pass thru the shield and shoot. Then RUN right! Don't care about the
left side guard. You jump down the pour of water and down and ....


Andrew Wat

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: cs125b64@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student)
Subject: Re: LINKS 386 PRO
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:24:26 GMT

rmg53668@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ryan M. Grant) writes:

>>you can force links 386 into 1024X768 and 800X600 mode.
>                         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>the upgrade instructions tell you all.

>What does this mean.  Are only 640x480 pixels used, or is res enhanced?

I have since heard that only 640x480 pixels are used.  Does this mean you see
a small(er) box of graphics with a black border?  Is this information correct?
Does anyone know of plans for full screen 800x600+ mode?

	- Ryan Grant
From: dougw@ks25.chi.il.us (Doug Waldron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: WIZARDY 7 INFO HERE!
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:04:04 GMT
Organization: R. R. Donnelley & Sons

>From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
>	Gee, thats nice.  Software Etc. says 9-17.  Now you tell us its the
>   end of the month.  F**king Sir-Tech, when are they ever going to actually
>   release Wiz 7 on time?  All I've got to say is, Wiz 7 had better be the
>   greatest adventure/rpg game of all time.  They had over a year in endless
>   delays.

Mr. Greene, you are so right.  Absolutely. Like everyone else,
you probably have a project that depends on this software, RIGHT!
Sure, this is the final piece to a software package you must
deliver by the end of September.  Tell us all, what sort of
project would desperately need Wizardry VII?

Or... is Wizardry VII the final part of your therapy.  I assume
the Frontal-Lobotomy was a success.  Does your therapy include
pulling your eyelids open with clamps while you play computer games?

I would think a UNH student would need more time for things
like, ahem, studying?  Even if college courses and studying
is not high on your priority list, your school is overloaded with 
females, surely you can find something better to do then wait for
a computer game to ship.

If you are looking for a good adventure/RPG game, I've heard that
games like Dungeons and Dragons are much better than computer games.
Of course this implys interaction with other people, the choice is yours.


]R

Just my attempt to stop ANOTHER College student from throwing his
grades to the wind.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Links 386 v1.05
From: cvetp036@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:23:40 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvetp036

> Look, the folks at ACCESS can be reached at 1-800-800-4880, and they will
> gladly give you the BBS to call. Its a 38.4k BBS in UTAH, and the files
> are about 400k long.

There is no such thing as a 38.4K BBS.

The max. right now is 16.8K, unless you count PEP which is 19.2K, but nobody
uses that anyway.

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