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From: jtkung@netcom.com (Joseph T. Kung)
Subject: Re: 57 strat
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:52:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.184157.13566@verity.com> dnj@kauai.verity.com (Dave Johansen) writes:
>
>In article <C15szK.JI2@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
>(L'Angelo Misterioso) writes:
>> 
>> 	I tried out a 57 strat (Reissue) at Jackson Music (Grand Island, NY) 
>> on Monday, and I'm looking for opinions on others who have tried them or who 
>> own one. The one I played seemed to have a problem with the ground -
>it hummed
>> until I touched the strings. The neck also felt very slow and sticky. Has
>> anyone else encountered these problems? Has anyone else dealt with Jackson 
>> before? 
>> 
>> mike
>
>
>Howdy, yes I have experience with them: I have two japanese reissues
>two American reissues and two SRVs (both used) there are pluses to
>all, basically for me, breaks down to, I like the neck shapes on the
>japanese models, but hate the finish (polyurethane), love the hardware
>on the Am. Reissues, but hate the neck shapes.. Sho I bought more 
>Am. Reissue parts and had all the necks either reshaped/refinished
>or just had them refinished (nitro-celluose lacquer). So I ended up
>with four great guitars to my tastes. Now I know this is an EXPENSIVE
>path that you may or may not want to go thru all this hassle.. So
>if you like the aesthetics of the '57, I would say go with the Am reissue,
>but if you want the lower cost, go with the Japanese reissue...
>If you go the way I did, they will end up costing about the same..
>
>Manny's had some nice '62 reissues when I was out in NYC a couple of
>months ago....
>
>-dnj


It might be easier to just order from Fender's Custom shop.
They even make reissue custom '54 strats, and if you fork out
enough dough, they'll probably make anything you want, with custom
woods, finishes, etc. Cost will probably be $2K+.

- Joe


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: jtkung@netcom.com (Joseph T. Kung)
Subject: Fender Strats -- List Prices
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:09:13 GMT

Fender now makes a dizzying array of Stratocasters. The top of the
line Strats are the Signature Series which include two Yngwie
Malmsteen series, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Robert Cray, and Stevie Ray
Vaughan models. The're all in the $1400 range (list). There's also the
Robben Ford and D'Aquisto models (non-Strat) which are the most
expensive at $1599.99 and $1799.99 list. 

After these models, there's the U.S. Vintage Stratocasters -- '57 and
'62 models, both at $1249.99 list with tweed case. Following these are
the reissue series, probably made in Japan. There's the 50's Strat
(rosewood fingerboard and maple fingerboard) [$579.99] and the 50's
Stratocaster (Non-tremolo) [$499.99]. 

There's also the Floyd Rose Classic Series with a maple neck, 22
frets, vintage styling, and the original Floyd Rose double locking
tremolo. They run $1099.99. They also have the Floyd Rose HRR Series,
50's and 60's style Strats at $849.99.

The newer Strats include the US Strat Ultra with nice finishes, ebony
fingerboard, special features, etc. It runs $1549.99. The next 
one is the Deluxe Strat Plus [$1099.99] in either rosewood or maple
necks and the Strat Plus [$999.99]. 

Next up is the American Standard Strat, both rosewood and maple
versions [$849.99], and also left-handed models [$949.99]. Following
this is the Standard Strat (rosewood and maple necks) [$399.99] and
left-handed models [$559.99].

Finally, there's the H.M. (Heavy Metal) versions. Sorry, but I don't
have list prices, but my best guess is that they're in the $800 list
range. 

There a few versions that aren't even advertised. These are the
"set-neck" Stats which feature Honduras Mahogany with bookmatched
highly figured maple bodies, ebony fretboard, 22 std frets, etc.
There's two versions -- a standard and a Floyd Rose version. Then
there's the Custom Classic Series, a custom order 1954 Stratocaster, a
1960 Strat, and shop versions of the American Standard.

From what I can see, the best stuff looks like the signature series,
the US vintage reissues, the set-neck Strats, the Strat Ultra, and of
course the Custom Classic Series. And they happen to be the most
expensive. :-)


- Joe









Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: mada@electrum.kth.se (Marcus Davidsson)
Subject: REQ:Robben Ford
Organization: The Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:51:56 GMT

Hej!

I'm wondering what sort of guitar Robben Ford is using on the "Talk to your
daughter" album. Is it hard to get, how much does it cost? From wich year?

Thanks.

Marcus Davidsson
mada@it.kth.se
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson)
Subject: Re: breaking high e
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:51:28 GMT

In article <C14I0L.858@ccu.umanitoba.ca> snewman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (S. Newman) writes:
>Anyone have any ideas on how to stop this string from breaking?
>It seems to be breaking about 5 times as often as any other string.
>Oh by the way it's a 0.010".

  Once or twice a year I seem to have a night where the high E string breaks
no matter what I do.  After restringing it for about the third time I
either stop playing, switch guitars, or play without it.  I attribute
the cause of this to "bad vibes" or whatever else you want to call the
nasty sh*t.

  I've found that having a locking tremelo system seems to help.  Perhaps
its the springs that help cushion the string from the sudden tension
changes when playing hard.
  A thicker string would be harder to break of course but then it will also
sound different.
  Does anyone make strings out of some super alloy with a tensile strength
much stronger than the steel normally used in strings?  Seems like a
market opportunity.  Has anyone ever strung their guitar with something
other than guitar strings (like steel wire from the hardware store or
piano wire or strands from a steel cable)?  The tradeoff is probably
brittleness vs tensile strength.  The stronger the steel the less it
likes being bent.  At some critical point brittleness will become the
more likely source of breaking instead of strength.  Anyone who's
industrial out there who can tell us about metal fatigue?
  Pulling or plucking hard on the string is the most obvious cause of it
breaking.  So you can play softer, but again it doesn't quite sound the
same.  Often this is because by plucking the string harder you get a
higher output from it and this causes some of your effects devices
and amps to start to distort which adds a unique crunch to the sound.
If this is what is happening then by amplifying the output from your
guitar slightly you should be able to reproduce this effect without
having to strain your strings as much.
  On the other hand, whanging on the string creates a unique sound
regardless of what the effects and amps are doing and if it is this
sound you are after (ala Fred Frith) then you would do well to learn
just how hard you can whang without breaking the string.  To do this
buy a lot of high E strings and proceed to break them while paying
careful attention to when they break.  (You may want to wear safety
glasses while doing this.)
  One other thing you might try is to look closely at the bridge and
head of the guitar to see if the string is rubbing against a sharp
edge or being bent at an angle.  If it is, this would contribute to
early breakage.
ron@vicorp.com or uunet!vicorp!ron
From: gd@nobska.er.usgs.gov (George Driscoll)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Req: Blues Advice
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:27:28 GMT
Organization: U.S.Geological Survey


	Someone showed me this 'A' chord. It looks like a handy 
	moveable chord, but what about the B-NOTE on the 3rd 
	string? Whats a major chord with the second addded? 

	||---|---|---|---|---|---|
	||---|---|---|---|-X-|---|
	||---|---|---|-X-|---|---|
	||---|---|---|---|-X-|---|
	||---|---|---|-X-|---|---|
	||---|---|---|---|---|---|
	           
	It was also suggested I try a 1-6-2-5 progression as a 
	blues turnaround. I thought a turnaround used the 11th
	and 12th bars of a 12 bar blues. Can anybody shed some 
	light on this for me? Do I play these 4 chords 2 beats
	each? Thanks.

	Lastly, I learned that taking the basic pentatonic box
	on say the 5th fret (key of A) and instead of just 
	running throught the box to bend (2 frets) the notes found
	on the 7th and 8th frets and tremello like a madman the
	notes on the 5th fret. This has certainly been a revelation
	to me. Is this right/wrong advise? It seems like a big step in
	the right direction to me. Anyway I'd appreciate and input
	flames or not on this thread. Givin' it my best shot.
From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Thumb chords
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:07:39 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpcslb1.col.hp.com

mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
> 
> Take a look at a couple of more recent successes: Joe Satriani and Eric
> Johnson.  I feel that both of them have achieved their heights by combining
> their ability to express and excellent technique.  Do you disagree?

If you check out the Eric Johnson video, you'll see that he's a big
fan of the "thumb over the top" style for playing chords.  It's not
what most people consider "excellent technique", but it's a very
effective tool and Eric explains it and shows it's usefulness.

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
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From: mada@electrum.kth.se (Marcus Davidsson)
Subject: Fender Strat
Organization: The Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:58:30 GMT


Hej!
I tried a very nice Fender yesterday. It was called Fender STRAT and was
from the early eighties. It was made in USA and had brass mechanics and
phase-shift pickups. Does anybody know anything more about it? Price etc.

Thanks.

Marcus Davidsson
mada@it.kth.se
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From: hsu22@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: HELP:remote switchable efx loop for rockman octopus
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:20:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I have a Rockman MIDI octopus and want to be able to use it to control
a foot pedal.  I know they have the remote loop accessory, but this is 
virtually impossible to find in any store I've been to.  Does anyone
know how those loop thingies work?  Does anyone know how to build one?
The basic concept is that the accessory is a remote controlled loop.
In other words, it has an input, send, return, and output.  The signal
either goes directly through to output or through the efx send and then
the output.  This is controlled by an external switch (in the Octopus) of
the ground- to- switch type.  Any ideas?  Much appreciated if you could
send a schematic...

hsu22@wilma.wharton.upenn.edu
Calvin Hsu
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From: plyall@teal.csn.org (Pete Lyall)
Subject: Re: Fret buzz & whammy bars
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:29:26 GMT

Oddly enough, my guitar tech had a fix for the droopy (pop in)
whammy bars: a hammer!

Take the hammer and _slightly_ deform the part that pops into
the socket. Making it a bit out of round will cause it to fit more firmly
in the socket. Worked on my Steinberger clone.


Pete Lyall

-- 
Pete Lyall                Video King Systems                     plyall@csn.org
===============================================================================
Updated quote in development... ;^}

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: jle@cfm.brown.edu (Jon Elion)
Subject: Re: Strat Plus  
Organization: Brown University / Cardiac Image Processing Lab
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:12:48 GMT

wolski@bnr.ca (Will Wolski) writes:
>I have a solid coloured Strat Plus (1989 model) and was wondering if anyone out
>there knows what type of wood is used for the BODY of this model.

Alder.

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: mbl@media.mit.edu (Marc LoCascio)
Subject: Re: The Best Midi Foot Controller
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:09:15 GMT

In article <C15tK1.8yu@csn.org> plyall@teal.csn.org (Pete Lyall) writes:
>I too use and love the Lake Butler RFC-1 MIDIGator...
>
>The only thing I don't like is that sometimes the rubber-bumper/mebrane
>footswitches are a bit tough to register. I have thought about replacing
>them with conventional stomp switches.

ditto.  and ditto.

Lake Butler has a "mechanical footswitch mod" that you can get for around
$100 if you send it back to them (or before you order one direct).  it
replaces the membrane switches with nice, rubber enclosed mechanical switches
that have about a quarter-inch throw.  i have this mod done on mine and it's
great.  i even use it in MIDI keyboard mode to trigger samples and synth hits
on stage.

Marc LoCascio		(mbl@media-lab.media.mit.edu)
From: drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu (Derek Suzuki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: BOSS ME-10 Guitar Multiple Effects Processor
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:53:47 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu

	How much do these run?  What are your opinions of it?

	Derek Suzuki
	drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: borst@cs.utexas.edu (Christoph W. Borst)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: **** Digital Delay For Sale ****
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:12:08 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: saltillo.cs.utexas.edu


For Salew:

Digitech PDS1002 2-second Digital delay, with infinite repeat also.
This is the blue pedal with two foot switches.
It has dry and regular outs;

How about $75 or best offer?  It's in great condition.
From: indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (indigo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: rattling in neck of guitar
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:17:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In <1jnru0INN34i@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> shaffer-wendy@yale.edu (Wendy Shaffer) writes:

>Last night I noticed this strange rattling sound in my guitar...It sounds like 
>it is coming from the neck, near the headstock.  The only thing that I can
>figure is that part of the truss rod or something came loose and is rattling
>around or something.  Can anybody tell me what this is, if it is a serious  
>problem, and what the best way to get it fixed is?  
>Thanks..

When I first got my guitar and brought it home, I had a very similar
problem.  It sounded like something inside the neck was buzzing,
especially when I hit one particular note.  So I took it back to the 
shop, and it turned out that the nut on one of the tuning mechanisms
was a little bit loose (the hexagonal thing under where the string
wraps around).  The guitar guy said that this sometimes happens with
new guitars as the varnish "settles" under the screws and stuff.

Adam

==-=--=---=----=-----=-------=---------=---------=-------=-----=----=---=--=-==
Adam Schneider               indigo@ucscb.ucsc.edu              U.C. Santa Cruz 
              Your actions will follow you full circle 'round...
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From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Thumb chords
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:58:26 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1jkrmjINNa83@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
                                        cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:

>Michael R. Kesti (mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com) wrote:

>I suppose it becomes a matter of how good one wishes to become.

>	dont confuse "good" with "technical profecency"

I assure you that I don't.  What I think you are missing is that I never
said, nor meant to imply, that technique is the end all of playing guitar
(or any other instrument) well.  Expressiveness, that ability to actually
say something, and evoke emotion with one's playing, is certainly important,
too.  But its importance in no way diminishes the importance of good
technique.

>	a friend of mine learnt good technique from age of 8 and is 
>extremely compitent - can play any named scale at an in audible speed.
>	i started when i was 20ish and ignored well meant advise.
>	now he is more jealous of my ability (which may be playing
>two notes ruffly for a whole song)...

So, you have a wonderful talent, that being the ability to play expressively,
that is lacking in your friend.  That's great, Collin.  I am truely glad for
you!

>                                ...than i of his (he cannot play a simple
>riff with the subtle variation (character) that defective playing brings on).
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Here is where I think you are wrong.  I see no reason why your expressive
talent would be in any way diminished by good technique, and can only imagine
that you would be a much better player if you had the benefit of both your
talent and good technique.

>	have a look at Jimi some day 

I assure you that I have, perhaps for longer than you've been alive. ;-)
Jimi was a one in a million guitarist; he had such an incredible gift of
expressiveness that his lousy technique did not detract from his playing
and his career.  The other 999,999 of us are, I think, fooling ourselves
if we think that we can achieve similar heights using only the expressive
talents we possess.

Take a look at a couple of more recent successes: Joe Satriani and Eric
Johnson.  I feel that both of them have achieved their heights by combining
their ability to express and excellent technique.  Do you disagree?

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Subject: Guitar repairs (cheap?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:47:13 GMT


	Ok, here's the deal. About four years ago, I bought
	a *really* shitty guitar for $50. It's a semi-acoustic
	hollow body with the f holes. You know, the Roy Orbison
	look. Well, it needs a new neck etc...

	I need some advice.

	1) The current neck has a really thick butt end. ie/ the end
	that is connected to the body is *really* thick. like 3 inches.
	It sticks up from the body quite a bit.

	Do I need to get the new neck to do this also?

	2) I bought a new bridge for it a while back, but it seems to
	be too wide, the strings are right at the edge of
	the neck near the body, and any bend causes one of the E's to
	slide off the neck, making a really horrid noise.

	Is this a bridge problem or a neck problem?

	3) I have new pickups in there (From Christmas) so I'm really
	ready to get this baby cookin' . How much should I expect
	to spend for a decent neck/tuners (the tuners on it are shot).

	4) I have a cordless screwdriver, and I want to make an
	attachment for it that turns the tuner knobs so I can
	speed up my string changing process (especially at gigs!)

	Has anyone ever done this? How did you make the attachment?


	Thanks!


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: kenl@kenl.mentorg.com (Ken Luke)
Subject: Re: breaking high e
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:44:50 GMT
Organization: mentor
Followup-To: 

In article <C14I0L.858@ccu.umanitoba.ca> snewman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (S. Newman) writes:
>Anyone have any ideas on how to stop this string from breaking?
>It seems to be breaking about 5 times as often as any other string.
>Oh by the way it's a 0.010".

The lead guitarist in our band had a massive string breakage problem. We finally
put graphite saddles on the bridge. The guitar is a Strat. That stopped the
problem immediately, it was _AMAZING_. He was breaking all the strings though,
and they were consistently snapping where they bend over the saddle. The
company was called something like "GraphTech" (the info's at home). They
advertise in GP though.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: For Sale: Boss ME-5
From: fresa@tardis.mdcorp.ksc.nasa.gov
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:17:39 -0500
Organization: MDSSC-KSC

For Sale: Boss ME-5 Multiple Guitar Effects box includes: compression,
overdrive, two types of distortion, equalizer, chorus, flanger, reverb (5
types) delay, loops for external effects such as wah-wah pedals, volume pedals,
step pedals, etc. Also has phone jack for practice. Barely used condition - has
never seen a gig or traveled outside my house. Will consider offers over
$250.Reply to this posting or call me at 407-868-1735 after 6pm EST. 
Thanks
Mark
From: frankc@tgf.tc.faa.gov (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: breaking high e
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:56:58 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: offserv2.faa.gov

kenl@kenl.mentorg.com (Ken Luke) writes:

>In article <C14I0L.858@ccu.umanitoba.ca> snewman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (S. Newman) writes:
>>Anyone have any ideas on how to stop this string from breaking?
>>It seems to be breaking about 5 times as often as any other string.
>>Oh by the way it's a 0.010".

>The lead guitarist in our band had a massive string breakage problem. We finally
>put graphite saddles on the bridge. The guitar is a Strat. That stopped the
>problem immediately, it was _AMAZING_. He was breaking all the strings though,
>and they were consistently snapping where they bend over the saddle. The
>company was called something like "GraphTech" (the info's at home). They
>advertise in GP though.

I had the same experience and agree completely.


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From: sonny@novell.com (Rosanno "Sonny" DeLara)
Subject: Re: New Amp from Mesa!
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:33:23 GMT

>: amp - a 2x12 DUAL RECTIFIER Combo!  To my knowledge this is their first 
>
>	I saw some preliminary specs in dec '92 about 19" rack mountable
>	Dual Rectifier head...
>

I like the sound of this amp too but can't afford it at the moment.

What do you guys think of the rack mountable all tube Mesa Boogie Fifty/Fifty?

Thanks,
Sonny
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