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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:16:49 EDT
From:         Don <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Oh no! The CDs are falling!!!

There are ways to help *slow down* the process, just atke care of your CD's
dont let them sit out, unprotected, don't throw them around, put them away
when your done using them, something I am sure most people who care about
there CD collection do every time. And of course don't leave them anywhere
near moisture!!!
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:42:11 EDT
From:         CPS0701@TURBO.KEAN.EDU
Subject:      RE: exotic scales
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Who ever was going to mail the modes built of the harmonic minor scale,
could you please post them, or if you have already can you please do it again
because I must have missed them.

                                         Desperately waiting
                                             John
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:43:39 PDT
From:         James Hedberg <hedberg@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Metal
X-To:         Music Discussion <allmusic@auvm.american.edu>

My fab five are:


Zep.		Heartbreaker

Aerosmith	Toys

Sabbath		Iron Man

Keaggy		Sunday School

Hendrix 	Purple Haze


-Headbanger
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:25:35 MDT
From:         "not waving but drowning..." <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: Weird Al/Nirvana
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>I just saw the Weird Al "Smells Like Nirvana" video on EmptyV. (I'm home sick
 fr
>   om
>work today--bored as hell). It's funny as hell. Check it out.
>        --PC

ah... so you DO have a sense of humor...  :*)

i agree, i saw it on the weekend... the lyrics are hilarious...

- Carol
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:21:13 EDT
From:         Don <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Oh no! The CDs are falling!!!

That is a major problem. No one really knows about it. All everybody
knows is that the CD is the *best media for music* and how great
it is. The Cd has not been around quite long enough for a full blown
attack on it by the media, it is just beginning to surface slowly.
We will just have to wait and see, hope for the best.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:40:50 EDT
From:         woj@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      cd abuse
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MHB@MITVMA.BITNET (Michael H. Bloom) writes:
>There's a guy who calls himself the Evolution Control Committee, in
>Columbus OH, who has done performances based on deliberately damaged CD's,
>and if there's interest I'll report on some of his investigations.

soon soon soon, mark will be releasing a recording of that show that show-
cased the cd mutilations. the title? _cdestruction_. i haven't heard what
he is up to as far as releases are concerned lately (not to mention that
he owes me four or five tapes...) so i don't know when it will be avail-
able.

one of the more interesting ideas that he did was microwaving a cd. i think
i've mentioned this here before - mark was the person who brought the tech-
nique to my attention. basically, the nuker oxidizes the aluminum on the
substrate *without* shattering the plastic. end result: a funky lightning
bolt pattern throughout the cd that looks like it should be rough, but
since it's encased in the plastic can not be felt. sometimes, the cd can
be made to track, but not always. when it does though, the sound i more
industrial than even zeni geva.
--
woj - we danced in graveyards with vampires till dawn - one potato two potato
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:58:21 EDT
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS

Has it ever occurred to any of you budding young economists
that the record company must not only pay for the CDs, but
for the artists as well?  How do you think Michael Jackson
can afford his hyperbaric bed?  It's coming out of the
difference between the costs of plastic and aluminum and the
costs of an album.

                        duh.

                           -Tim"grumpy old guy"J
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:05:00 EST
From:         T9014170@PHILLIP.EDU.AU
Subject:      GIANT
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	DOES ANYONE OUT THERE  KNOW IF THE NEW GIANT ALBUM
		"TIME TO BURN" HAS BEEN RELEASED. IF SO COULD
     			SOMEONE GIVE US A REVIEW AND THE LIST OF SONGS
		 ON THE ALBUM!!!!!!


				The DOC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 10:59:00 EST
From:         Air-Major <FORTIN@FORDMRH1.BITNET>
Subject:      billy joel, elton john

      Billy Joel's main song in Piano Man.  Elton John has a song named The
Entertainer.  But to me at least, Billy Joel IS the Entertainer and Elton John,
the Piano Man.  Just a thought.
                                                Eddie (Wharf)
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:24:20 EDT
From:         Bond <tbont@IEEEPUB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Songs of the west - 1860-1890
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Eddie,

For a theme park I would think the important
goal would be illusion. You don't have to be
historically precise, you have to satisfy the
park-goer's imagination. Watch westerns. For
instance, in "High Noon," the greatest of all
time, the tune "Come on ladies won't you come
out tonight" pervades the soundtrack. Ragtime
also seems completely appropriate.

Bont

ZAMFIR RULES
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:08:00 CST
From:         GDLAC@CANAL.CRC.UNO.EDU
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>BTW, anybody want to buy a copy? I promise not to send in 362-line posts
 listing
>how many copies I have left :-) but the temptation will be easier to resist if
>we can sell a few...

	What kind of music is it? (Not that I have a CD player yet :-) )

Gerald D. Ladmirault
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:18:18 EST
From:         CW06GST <CW06GST@SJUMUSIC.BITNET>
Subject:      fear of music

Why do we call anything what we call it?  Why is something that we sit
on called a chair.  Spooky is a word we use for things that scare us.
We could have easily have used the word blaxivug for spooky but we
didn't.  I guess the real question should be why do things scare us?
Things that we are unfamiliar with generally seem to scare us.  Is this
an instinct?  I was always taught that humans really have no instincts;
that we have reflexes, such as breathing, or we are taught things.
Actually i think we have two instincts.  One is to procreate, and the
other is to survive.  Thinking that something is "spooky" is an offshoot
of our survival instinct.  I should know. I'm in marketing.

The real EZ
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:06:00 EST
From:         ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: LPS FROM HELL FOR SALE
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For those with sensitive eyes hit CTRL-C or forever hold your pizza...



Turbo flamethrower ignition ON!

SEWALL@MAINE.MAINE.EDU  sez (A FEW TOO MANY FRIGGIN TIMES!):
>
>       MANY RESPONDED TO MY VINYL INQUIRY, SO HERE'S A LIST.
>
>       SINGLE LPs - $3.00 each,DOUBLE LPs - $5.00 each (MARKES WITH 2)  B
>.....ad nauseum, regurgitum, pukum, retchum, hurlum...

ENOUGH! I had at least seven copies of this thing sent to me in the last 24
hours! I'm going to start forwarding this crap back to you! There is a list
for selling stuff take it there! You're killing our disk quotas!

MANY PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING TO YOU TO CEASE AND DESIST


Flame OFF
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:10:40 EDT
From:         SHERRY@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      Black Crowes

Please, could someone send me the complete lyrics for _Shake Your Money

Maker_.  I can't seem to get into the ftp.  You can e-mail me.

Sherry@morekypr

Thanks.  Thanks.  Thaks

Never trust a bald barber.  He has no respect for your hair.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 10:36:00 EST
From:         Air-Major <FORTIN@FORDMRH1.BITNET>
Subject:      billy joel

      If Billy Joel made another greatest hits album, how many more songs would
be on it?  Also what songs should have been on his greatest hits that were not?
Being a big Billy Joel fan I would have like to have seen Sometimes A Fantasy
on his greatest hits.

                                                Eddie (Wharf)
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:51:16 EDT
From:         Don <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SIGEP!

I go to Marist up in Poughkeepsie and you guys have a chapter here.
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Subject: re: Metal (reprise w/ album titles)
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:20:02 GMT
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my $0.05:

   ozzy/randy     crazy train               blizzard of oz
   trouble        assasin                   psalm 9
   metallica      master of puppets         master of puppets
   stryper        soldiers under command    soldiers under command
   rush           yyz                       moving pictures

lee
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:30:42 PDT
From:         The Lion of Symmetry <John.McCartney@EBAY.SUN.COM>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS
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Here's a followup -

I have a catalog from an outfit called AVL Disc Makers, out of
Philadelphia, New York, and Puerto Rico. It's last year's catalog,
so prices are probably a bit different, but I wouldn't expect a
big difference.


Here's some sample costs:   (order quantity of 1000 unless otherwise noted)

Studio Series - $2.99 each, $2990 total  -  initial order
                $2.09 each, $2090 total  -  reorder

                full color 1 panel insert (front only), 1 color tray card,
                typesetting & color separations, jewel box & blister pack.
                Add $95 for 1 color printing on back of insert.

Professional Series - $3.29 each, $3290 total  -  initial order
                      $2.09 each, $2090 total  -  reorder

                full color deluxe 1 panel insert with dropouts & tints
                (front only), 2 color deluxe tray card, deluxe typesetting
                & color separations, jewel box & blister pack.
                Add $95/panel for 1 color printing on back of insert.

Deluxe Series - $3.29 each, $3290 total  -  initial order
                      $2.09 each, $2090 total  -  reorder

                full color deluxe 4 page insert with dropouts & tints (outside
                only), deluxe 2 color tray card, deluxe typesetting & color
                separations, jewel box & blister pack.
                Add $95/panel for 1 color printing on inside of folder.


Lots of options are available; 1-8 page folders, 8-28 page booklets, printed
longboxes, custom printing on the CD, etc.

They also do cassettes, *vinyl*, and video. Accessory stuff as well (packaging,
mailers, posters, logos.

If anyone wants to check them out, get a catalog, etc - call 800-468-9353
(215-232-4140 in PA)



scorch
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:10:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject: Re: Sony, Alpine, Kenwood
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>> My Sony CD player keeps f'in up so the stereo store is going to let me trade
>> it in for a new one. I'm not gettin' another Sony. I can get an Alpine or a
>> Kenwood. I've owned Alpine stuff before and had problems...never owned a
>> Kenwood. Any suggestions from you all would be appreciated. Thanks.

>I'm very happy with my Alpine stuff.  Kenwood..... I had a tuner by them that
>I wasn't too happy with.  But that was a rack system, not for a car.

>How about CD players?  I'm thinking about getting one for my car.  However,
>it's a VW Scirocco with non-existent shocks.  Any players known for not
>skipping?  I'm really interested in the multi-disc players.

My Sony was model CDX-5040, it skipped 3 times, believe me I was counting. I've
 had it since last May. But I haven't been able to get a CD in it for a month.
 The times it did skip, were justified, I hit large bumps on the road. I am
 really surprised, I thought it would be much worse. I have been over
 some very rough roads with no problems. Whether the CD player skipped or not
 was my biggest concern when I first bought it. I thought about getting a
 multi-disc player but couldn't afford it at the time.  Also, I did not like
 the idea of having to open my trunk (showing the world where my stereo was) to
 change CDs or leaving CDs in my trunk when it got real hot out.

 I owned two Alpine cassette decks. The first one was great until it
 mysteriously left my car one evening :-) The second one malfunctioned and
 later got practically destroyed when someone tried to steal it. Luckily I have
 insurance to cover it. Once again, call Crutchfield for more details. They
 have a chart that will tell you what stereos can fit in what cars. I had some
 trouble finding one to fit my Nissan 240SX, seems I can't fit a removable
 stereo in my car, which is fine because they are more trouble than they are
 worth.

          Seeya,
          GaryM
          "Never do a drug that is named after a part of your ass"
          -- Guy on MTV
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:43:43 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: fear of music (fwd)
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>You said you were working with a processor. Were you doing something to add
>artificial echo and maybe mess with her perception of space, creating some
>sort of virtual abyss?

I was running the cheesy pre-midi "pan flute" (HA!) patch through the
multitap patch of a Quadraverb+.  I played this simple 5 or 6 note
repetitious piece, and the multitap added a bunch of notes each time.
No echo, no reverb.  It made a "confusing" sound, but not one of an
impending abyss.

>I once saw Pierre Boulez speak to a Harvard music class.

I think *he's* the guy that Phil Lesh hangs out/studies with.

Russ
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From: mikelle@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Eddie Mikell)
Subject: Songs of the west - 1860-1890
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:50:42 GMT

Greetings:

I will be playing for a "Western" theme park this summer, so I'm trying to 
do my homework for music during the 1860-1890 time period.

I'm having discouraging luck.  Like most people who watched Gunsmoke too 
much, I imagined a the piano player in the saloon slamming out ragtime on a 
detuned upright.  I have found no books that support this.  The songs I've 
found that were penned during that time are (this is pretty bad folks):

Sweet Betsy from Pike 
Red River Valley

So you see the stuff I've found so far.

Does anyone have some other suggestions, or has anyone done research for 
songs during this time period?

Thanks!
Eddie
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:13:06 PDT
From:         James Hedberg <hedberg@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Being "Free"
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>
> Here's a good quote:
>
> "The amateur is perhaps the only free agent in our musical culture"
>
> 				- Sergius Kagen.
>
> Ross-c
>

Just a thought!

-Hbanger
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:59:18 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      larry welk
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  Speaking of ol' "An a one-ah an a two-ah", he's showing up in
syndication lately.  Mostly "special theme" shows.  Funny stuff.  Some
good music too, believe it or not.  The Hawaiian show had a slack key
slide guitarist playing some means licks.  Unfortunately, he was
playing background to bonehead singers, you know, that Mickey Mouse guy.
Larry's band members occasionally step out for a decent solo too.  And
of course, watching Larry get into it is the best part.

  Just so you don't think I'm losing it, I don't really *watch* the show,
I just stop grazing channels for a while if it looks good.

Russ
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Oh no! The CDs are falling!!!

        There was a sort of false alarm about CDs a few years ago: someone
started the gossip that the ink used in printing the non-recorded side would
slowly ooze in and ruin the whole thing. Quite funny, since one would expect
the ink to flow *across* the metallic disc itself.
        Anyway, I would wait before declaring that the whole CD world is
bound to get ruined by complicated oxidation processes. If this may reassure
you, I bought my first CDs in 1985 - that is 7 years ago - and I've been
enjoying their full sound quality so far.

        Ciao, Marco
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From:         "TJ Lardner - Student Consultant Seton Hall U."
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Subject:      Paranoia

Experimental evidence
(Seton Hall University Chem Dept.)
Call off the McCarthy hearings about this CD scam!  In order
to oxidize the thin layer of aluminum sandwiched between the
two acrylic layers, you must VIOLATE these outer layers.  There
is a thicker layer on the bottom (about two micrometers thicker),
from where the data is written.  While fingerprints can "confuse"
the laser, they can be wiped clean (and DON't have to be from
the top or label side).  However, a scratch (deep) on either
side is enough to cause oxidation, especially in at warm
temperatures, with large amounts of free electons being catalyzed.
If these things are going to oxidize, you'll know it rather soon.
Violate the outer coating and you'll find out - take care of
them and they'll last (experimentally at least) a lifetime.
TJ
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Date: 12 Apr 92 16:00:32 GMT
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    I was listening to some Van Halen this morning, and I was
thinking about the differences in David Lee Roth VH and Sammy Hagar
VH. I've never seen them in concert, but I wondered how much of the
"old" VH they do. Do they do any of the old stuff (1984 and earlier)?

    Response to whoever wrote back about "what's wrong with asking if
someone is a brother in the geek, oops, greek system?" Nothing, on
an appropriate list, but this is a MUSIC list, and I subscribed to
read and post music messages, not read fraternal cheers (ATO! Sig
Eps! etc.)

    --PC
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:33:00 EST
From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET
Subject:      T'PAU,

Did y'all get my message about T'pau??? I really want to find the CD because
it has sentimental meaning!!!!  Does anyone out there listen to them?????



                                        Stephanie(supsfran@stetson)
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: The Sun Ra mailing list is back - with a LISTSERV no less!!!
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:52:00 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92041510402627@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET writes:
>from Jazz-L:
>Well, I finally found one. The new address of the Sun Ra mailing list
>is <SATURN@HEARN.BITNET>. To subscribe, just send a piece of mail to
><LISTSERV@HEARN.BITNET> with the following in the body:

good going.

Sun Ra will be playing in Chicago sometime soon.  At the new place run
by the former Cubby Bear booker.  I hope he doesn't try to duplicate the
ambiance of the Cubby Bear, it sucks.  But he did get some good things,
like Sun, Cherry, Lacy, Scofield, and a few others I didn't get to see.

Jeff
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:54:51 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      re: "Metal Rules" (revised)
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shouldn't there be a rule 6 about drums?  i've heard some metal bands with
great guitars and vocals, but the drums were aweful, making the whole band
little better than mediocre.  having a bad (or even not-very-good) drummer can
really break a metal band's sound.

that's my rule 6.  phrase it however it sounds best, but drums are important.

lee
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:33:36 PDT
From:         James Hedberg <hedberg@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Clapton/Cream
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To quote E.C.


"Cream didn't have a full set.  We had maybe three quarters of an
hour's worth of material.  And when it became clear that we needed more
than that, we just stretched the numbers out-and then that became
VOGUE!  It was purely accidental.  We went on the road and battered
out the same material for the last year and a half or so without
taking into consideration thaty the world was changing.  Good evidence
of that was Music from Big Pink, by the Band.  When I heard that, I
felt we were dinosaurs and what we were doing was rapidly becoming
outdated and boring.  I've always been a bit of an extremist , and if
something's not right, I just want to stop and get out.  So I wanted
to end the band and leave."

				-Eric Clapton  6/86
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:35:52 EDT
From:         Jon <JEPSTEIN@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LPS FOR SALE!
              7 Apr 1992 16:03:58 EDT from <SEWALL@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

This lp sale is beginning to remind me of "the home shopping network."
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