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From: mike@struad.uucp (Michael Cianflone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Amiga 4000/Atari Falc
Distribution: world
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:49:54 PST
Organization: Structured Applications & Designs, Inc. R&D Institute.

<Jerry Shekhel writes>                                                       
>>>No, I just think that a computer grafted on top of another computer is    
>>>a kludge.  It has nothing to do with the Intel CPU.                       
                                                                             
<Andy Finkel writes>                                                         
>>Then, by obvious implication, an operating system grafted on top           
>>of another operating system is also a kludge.  Therefore, the              
>>DOS box grafted to OS/2 is a kludge.                                       
                                                                             
<Jerry Shekhel writes>                                                       
>I don't see where you got this "obvious implication".  Software is different
>from hardware.  There's nothing kludgy about software layers; that's the way
>software is designed.                                                       
                                                                             
So if I run a software PeeCee emulator then this is not a kludge, but if I   
run the emulator on a bridgeboard this is? You did say that the bridgeboard  
is a kludge, and to add to that now you're saying the software DOS emulator  
in OS/2 is not a kludge. How neat, if I run a hardware PeeCee emulator in a  
window it's a kludge, but if I close it and start up a software PeeCee       
emulator in another window it's not. Or better yet, keep both the hardware
and software PeeCee emulator windows open. Even though they both look the
same to the casual observer, the keen PeeCee advocate can clearly see
that the hardware emulator window is a kludge but the software emulator
window is not kludgey at all.
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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: A4000 - Early Impressions = Personal Attacks now....
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:47:58 GMT

In <1992Sep15.054216.23872@uni-paderborn.de> laire@uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) writes:
>Skip, you can think about MB what you want but i think it's not
>fair to attack him in such personal way.....

Who cares ? MB probably does not.

Regards,
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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:14:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep08.035110.6968@pdnfido.fidonet.org> dtiberio@pdnfido.fidonet.org (David Tiberio) writes:
>TEST test

See also: alt.tests
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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: Critical mass getting bigger?
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:03:47 GMT

>Microprose, a rather favorite game maker of mine, is coming out/will
>come out with their OWN RPG.  It will be an 'angled-overhead' view,
>sorta like Zaxxon was.  The review I saw in a magazine was favorable,

	I hope you're not talking about Darklands, Dan.  I had the game for
   1 day and took it back.  The graphics are OK at best. It does have an
   angled-overhead view by the way.  I wasn't all that impressed with it, 
   especially considering it took over 17 meg of HD space.  Ultima Underworld
   took only 13 meg and was WAY, WAY better IMHO.

							G.Greene


>Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
>" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
>        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech
From: mrz50957@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Matthew Robert Zeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Defaul tool (was Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.)
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:26:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BuA0ry.7EK
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

raymondu@terapin.com (Raymond Ulibarri) writes:
>   But what about Public Domain and Shareware?  The README files invariably are
>in unique locations for every Amiga user.  I'd estimate that 90% or more of the
>README files I go through have a Default Tool that doesn't work properly on my
>machine.  Sure, it might work for the programmer, but the ONLY universal
>location of a textreader _ON EVERY AMIGA_ is Sys:Utilities/More.
>   Exceptions to this might be:
> >Floppy only users who have stipped down their WB Disk;
> > Users who have deleted More thinking they don't need it;
> > Users who have removed the Utilities drawer from Sys:.

>   Mac README files are all TeachText -- click on it and it runs.  I'd hate to
>have to load README files into Clipboard; my FONTS: is so large it takes almost
>forever for Clipboard to load.  Sys:Utilities/More is the only universal
>option.

Just make it easier on yourself, and use the CLI when you go through the
readme files.  Much weasier to looks at all the README files, and simply type
'more readme', since more is in my path.  
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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Interlace video (Was Re: PC (OS/2) / Amiga debate)
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:54:47 GMT

In <18dp4mINNf33@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou) writes:
>other half repainted 60 times the next cycle.  So you have 60 frames every
>2 seconds, or 30 frames per second, compare that with a non-interlaced 60Hz
>display which gives 60 frames per second, isn't that what we'are talking
>about?

This is the point of misunderstanding. You said that an _interlace_ display
flickers. My point is that _interlace_ isn't the cause for the flicker
but the reduced refresh rate. The _interlace_ itself actually reduces
flicker (when comparing two systems with the same refresh rate).

Regards,
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From: storm@uriel (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Subject: Re: SCSI Vs. IDE?
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:51:00 GMT

In article <BuFHLn.JGA@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose) writes:
>storm@uriel (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:
>
>>	A truly interesting and fact filled debat,e considering that my 340MB
>>IDE Maxtor Drive pulls 1.5MB per second with no caching enabled whatsoever.
>
>>	My other 82MB Maxtor disk pulss off 900KB/sec.
>
>>	Toodlepip.
>>	Marc 'em.
>>-- 
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>>  Marc Wandschneider           Montreal, CANADA          Program run! PLEASE!
>>      "When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not." - Yoda
>
>I'm more concerned with the fact that you can't daisy-chain IDE drives.  1
>controller per drive.  I enjoy the fact that I can plug up to six drives into
>my Amiga, as well as other devices (assuming I can get drivers) like scanners,
>slide-shooters, printers, etcetera, etcetera.  IDE is a dumb drive controller,
>which makes it cheap and sometimes faster.  I'd rather pay a few more bucks and
>get something I can expand on easily.

	Well, I've got two drives in here right now connected to one IDE
controller and I really don't have any space for anything else.

	However, given the need, a tower case, and a lot of cash, then 
I'd probably go with the 8 device SCSI.

	Toodlepip!
	Marc 'em.

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From: simon@ivem.uucp (Simon Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Some random thoughts on the A4000
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:50:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivem.ucsd.edu

In article <amuser.716550285@marsh> amuser@cs.curtin.edu.au (Bill Sharp-Smith AUG) writes:
>The 33Mhz Quadra 950 is shipping. I've seen one here in West Oz, and if
>its here, its everywhere !

Not true.  We've got one ordered a while back, and they're delayed.  Something
about missing parts or lack of sufficient quantity in a certain part.

-Simon

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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:03:08 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <mbs.0ypi@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
> In article <mykes.0dg9@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
> > This is my ovservation, based upon 2 months of owning my PC clone...  Word
> > for windows, which is bundled WITH windows, is functionally identical to
> > ProWrite 3.2 with the following differences:
> >
> > 1.    ProWrite has a spell checker and thesaurus.
> > 2.    ProWrite supports multicolumns
> >
> > That's IT.
>
> Word for Windows does not come bundled with Windows (it costs $208 even with
> our site license discount).
>
> Write for Windows, does come bundled.
>
> Word definitely has a spell-checker and support for multi-columns. I've never
> had a need for a thesaurus, so I don't know if it is there or not.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  I meant Write, not Word.  Get off my case folks :)

> --
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From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:41:35 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:

> Here we have a problem - just what _is_ SVGA?  Anyone care to define it?

SVGA is *not* a standard, but most people expect atleast 640x800-256 is 
it's called SVGA.

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces CD Solution Promotion
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:40:11 GMT

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
:    Some prophet you are.  When Commodore makes a bad decision like this, of
: course I am going to flame it.  This policy sucks.

You're wrong again, Marc.

It blows.

How ever can you deal with being so...  wrong?

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From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: Random tidbits regarding WOC & A4000
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 06:29:25 GMT

In article <1627@lysator.liu.se> boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg) writes:
>peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>  I didn't mean you in particular, but the general reaction on the A4000 
>from  most people here on UseNet appears to be `WHAT? I cannot use the 
>AGA Chipset in my A3000/A2000/whatever !???? Screw Commodore'. Very 
>annoying to say the least. 

I'll say.  I could go and buy a 486/50 today and in a few months
the superior P5 will come out.  Should I cry if it isn't a drop-in
replacement or if Intel don't offer a "power-up" deal?

>To me at least the A4000 seems to be an excellent machine and 
>I'm sure  getting one. I'll keep my old A3000 for debugging programs - 
>Enforcer doesn't work on a 68040 right now :-)

I'm getting one too!  (got the full-time job!!)

btw, I bet Enforcer will work RSN :-)

>Stefan Boberg - AP & EE student at Linkoping Institute of Technology, Sweden

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From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: WOC - A4000 - sunga rattef
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:46:44 GMT

In article <18qt50INNlla@phakt.usc.edu> dleslie@phakt.usc.edu (David Leslie) writes:
> 25mhz 040 (processor module)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^--- Explain. This sounds like an A3000 with a card

> IDE HD interface  (Boo!)
No, couldn't be. They wouldn't pull the SCSI on the MB. Would they?

I'd REALLY like to see some GOOD justification for this, though. CATS?
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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Things that make you go hmm...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 05:49:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.010744.2669@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan) writes:
>There is an interesting tidbit in the latest AW contained within
>the article "Small Talk: The New Amiga 600 Revealed" (p. 44-45).
>
>On page 45, in a discussion of the PCMIA connector, the author mentions
>that Commodore will introduce a 386 PC emulator that fits into the
>A601 slot. 
>
>Any comments?

   Sounds like Commodore's management is just sick and tired of being
repeatedly upstaged by small Amiga hardware developers, such as the
makers of the ATonce and PowerPC.  I think that one of these companies 
will probably have their PC emulator ported to the A600 for the A601
slot long before tortoise Commodore finally gets theirs to the market,
so the issue is irrelevant.

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> = DCSS, McMaster University               rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca = 
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 92 17:45:12 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Sep4.034729.24084@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
  <1992Sep4.103331.21984@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>
  <mykes.0dg9@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>

>This is my ovservation, based upon 2 months of owning my PC clone...  Word
>for windows, which is bundled WITH windows, is functionally identical to
>ProWrite 3.2 with the following differences:

Uh, that's called *WRITE*, not Word. Word For Windows is considered one of the
best wordprocessors available for any platform. Available for about $300
for the unwashed. $130 for anyone who has owned a word processor at sometime
in the past and has a disk to prove it.

>1.      ProWrite has a spell checker and thesaurus.
>2.      ProWrite supports multicolumns
>
>That's IT.

Yet, "Write" manages to get decent output out of a laser printer. Something
that I've yet to see Prowrite do.


TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (LaMonte Koop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 at WOC
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:52:20 GMT
 <1992Sep12.193651.17020@cco.caltech.edu> <1992Sep12.162130.1197@msus1.msus.edu>,<1992Sep13.025524.16629@tronsbox.xei.com>
Reply-To: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Sep13.025524.16629@tronsbox.xei.com>, bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.162130.1197@msus1.msus.edu> lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU writes:
>>In article <1992Sep12.193651.17020@cco.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
>>>He wasn't using a second hand report.  He was using mine.  I tried one of the
>>>things out, and it was much slower (in 256 color mode) than my A3000 in
>>>16 color mode.
>>
>>Which is second hand from Marc's perspective.  It is a matter of opinion as
>>to the speed of the system in the 256 color mode.  Some feel it is faster than
>>you say, some slower.  This one point is highly subjective in this setting.
>>
>
>Wrong.  That report is second-hand data from Marc's perspective, but

Exactly what I said, please re-read before you post to flame.

>it was a first-hand report.  By the way you're trying to twist the
>language, the only way to use a first-hand report as data would be to
>write the report yourself, then refer to it.

Technically, that would be correct.

>Stop picking nits.  When Marc is right, he's right, and no semantic
>games will change that.

Well, in fact it is you who is playing semantic games, and in that respect
I am really not in the mood.  You missed the point of what I was saying and
chose to move on to attack language usage.  I was making the point that Marc
was making judgemental remarks when he himself has not even used the system
in question.  In that respect, what I have said is true.  Marc is not right
on that respect, and I am in no way playing 'games' as you put it.

> *         Bill Cavanaugh       bleys@tronsbox.xei.com          *

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From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:26:32 GMT

In article <13637@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.201819.27768@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO) writes:
>>
>>My recollection is that usually real-time OS's are time sensitive
>>and guaranteed to respond to an event by a certain time.  Having a
>>multi-tasking or multi-user OS with virtual memory makes this very
>>difficult to attain since the timing would depend totally on the
>>amount of disk I/O (paging) of other objects in relationship to
>>the object at hand.
>
>First, multitasking doesn't mean virtual memory.
>
>Second, multi-tasking is almost required to support a real-time OS unless you
>have few enough things to do that you can create an interrupt service routine

Please reread my post.  I said having a multi-tasking OS *WITH* virtual memory
the key phrase here being "with virtual memory".

>
>Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute

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From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:38:42 GMT

I agree absolutely with your assesment of Wing Commander II. The game, in itself,
is really nothing technologically spectacular. What is really impressive is the
sheer volume of material that went into it - most especially the incredible 
amount of man-hours that must have gone into this project. I suspect the true
limiting factor in creating the "killer game", "killer utility" or etc. will
always be user base, not technological advancement. The thing that always
impresses me about PC games in general is the amount of sheer "extraneous" detail
that goes into them... the "little touches" that make the game better. Things
like digitized explosions, which seem to be par-for-the-course on PC games (e.g:
Wing Commander, Nova 9, ad infinitum...) but have yet to appear on the Amiga. 

This does not apply, of course, to "killer demos", which are usually created by
one user or group with no thought given to "return on investment", the bottom
line (rightly) in all corporations. I'm not knocking Amiga corporations for
not spending $1 million to develop a game... that just wouldn't make sense. 
After all, look what happened to Cinemaware, a company that put entirely too
much of its resources into every game, with little hope of just breaking even.

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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Way to go Commodore! Yeah...right.
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:26:50 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

Well the news from the WOC just reached my site.
Glad to know my not yet paid for A3000 is an orphaned
machine.

Just who is going to develop software for the new AA chips?
Since none of the current machines can use them I see no reason to.

And what's the deal with the A600? And the A3000T/040? It makes
no sense at all! None! Two newly released machines that can't use
the new chips? Who's going to buy them? Especially the A600? And if
these machines (the A600...) do sell then why develop software for
the AA machines as there will what, maybe ten users out there with
A4000s?

Commodores "strategy" evades me. I'm totally confused. Somebody send over
the BLAZEMONGER Customer Service folks, I need to be put out of
my misery.

Ian "Huh? Say what?" Kennedy
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