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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 03:04:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <9223212.11090@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma) writes:
>jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
>
>>Anyone see any problems with this sceme?
>
>1) The Sulaco was a military transport. I can (just) by Weyland-Yutani tapping
>into its telemetry in the third film, but I certainly don't buy them being
>able to issue orders to the military hardware.

Good point. I was under the impression that WY (1) owned the
colony, and (2) pretty much owned most colonies, and likely
owned, in a sense, the USCMC. I doubt that governments are more
than figureheads in a world run by megacorps.

>2) Even if they could, by the time they realised what was happening and issued
>the orders, the Sulaco would be two weeks closer to home at FTL speeds. The
>Marine Corps might notice if one of their ships started acting strangely.

I figured it was planned - part of the programming from the
beginning, not tacked on afterwards. If the logs indicated the
marines encountered resistance from xenophobes, send down a dropship.

>3) The Derelict is just that - a derelict. The dropship can sit outside with its
>doors open till the cows come home, and nothing will wander on board. Both Kane
>and Jorden were grabbed when they went into the egg chamber and started poking 
>at eggs.

I also assumed that Jorden's mission was followed up by
subsequent excursion to the Derilect. As a source of eggs, the
hatched Aliens might start transporting eggs back to the colony
until there were enough warriors to sustain a queen (who's pretty
dependent). Some warriors might remain at the derilect. Also, why
didn't the crew just take one of the colony's transports and
drive away from the colony site, wait for rescue? They had plenty
of time to get past the 20km blast radius, and likely well over
the horizon, even at 20 kph. "They mostly come at night...
mostly," I think, indicates the Aliens do leave the complex...
they might retreat back to the Derilect to protect the eggs if
the queen was killed.

Failing all of that, any helpful suggestions for either this
theory, or any others?

Joshua
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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: alien(s)^n, a theory
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:40:47 GMT
Keywords: alien, movies, corporate shenanigans

rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof) writes:

>I hope and pray that in Aliens^4, Ripley wakes up from her bad dream
>in mid-flight and wrestles with this issue.

Oh, please not! It didn't save Dallas, it won't save the Aliens plot.


May the Cool Shower Be not with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Godzilla tiple bill info update
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:05:23 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)


   I am please to inform that the Godzilla triple bill video I reported
was recently released in the UK from Polygram (Invasion of the Astro
Monster, Ebirah, Destroy All Monsters) IS in Widescreen (same ratio as
the 2 previous double bills), despite me saying it wasn't in the
original article. I now own it, so I know this for a fact, though there
is absolutely no indication on the packaging that this is the case.

+---------------------+------------------------------------------+
| Gary Bradley        |   "You receive a love letter from me and |
| ORACLE Corp, UK     |                  you're f*cked forever!" |
| Edinburgh, SCOTLAND |        - Frank Booth ("Blue Velvet")     |
+---------------------+------------------------------------------+
| "God damn the censor man"                                      |
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Aliens the Special Edition
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:23:50 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <xz2mlw#@lynx.unm.edu>, by lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble):
> kdontas@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( ) writes:
 
>> One question, where did the facehugger come from that was to impregnate
>> Dallas ? 

There is NOTHING in Alien to suggest the Alien can't lay new eggs.  No
scene, no remark, no hint.

Therefore, the solution, simple, straightforward, and without holes:
The Alien himself laid the egg that produced the facehugger that
impregnated Dallas.  This clearly is the intended meaning.

> I don't remember how Foster's novelization explained that [...]
> All three movies have used slightly different versions of how
> the aliens work -- even if the novelization did come up with something
> it's not necessarily going to be consistent with Cameron's queen-and-hive
> explanation. 

"Come up with something."  I really like that.  Face it, it simply is
Aliens that is inconsistent with both Alien and its novelization, both
of which came out much earlier.  Since they cut those scenes out of
the final version of Alien, it doesn't show up too glaringly, but it's
all Cameron's fault, since he imposed that queen-and-hive-botch on the
Aliens.
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From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: Vasquez in Terminator2
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:16:47 GMT

In article <2649@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.110944.7378@sun.pcl.ac.uk> chrisc@sun.pcl.ac.uk
>(Chris Chamberlain) writes:
>>I noticed the actress who plays John Connors foster mother is none other than
>>one Jenette Goldstien (sp?), whom we all know and love as Vasquez in Aliens.
>>Even rewinding the film and watching the bits with her in again I couldn't
>>really believe it. She looks so different, where've the muscles gone? Has she
>>been in anything else? 
> 
>    Near Dark (Hudson and Bishop are in this too) - a great film
>
>+---------------------+------------------------------------------+
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>| ORACLE Corp, UK     |                  you're f*cked forever!" |
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She was also in Lethal Weapon 2 as the lady cop who get blown up in her pool.

Serge
From: chrisc@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Chris Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Vasquez in Terminator2
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:32:40 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic of Central London

In article <1992Aug11.121854.12647@mips2.ma30.bull.com> moscatel@granite.ma30.bull.com (Joseph Moscatelli) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.110944.7378@sun.pcl.ac.uk> chrisc@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Chris Chamberlain) writes:
>>I noticed the actress who plays John Connors foster mother is none other than
>>one Jenette Goldstien (sp?), whom we all know and love as Vasquez in Aliens.
>>Even rewinding the film and watching the bits with her in again I couldn't
>>really believe it. She looks so different, where've the muscles gone? Has she
>>been in anything else? 
>        
>Predator II
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> 

I think you're thinking of Maria Conchita Alonso, who was also in Running Man.

Chris.
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:09:30 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <4871@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, by seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp):
> 	That's the point. LIFE has some un-nice points. If you're CREATING an
> entire universe, why make things as badly constructed as real life?

If you don't want to confront the un-nicety of the Universe, why do
you watch films like Alien?

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From: cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Alien-buster)
Subject: Re: Naming Alien 4
Reply-To: cjb3701@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:29:15 GMT

In article <92Aug12.040045.32004@acs.ucalgary.ca>, jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
>
>My vote:
>                       _           _       _
>                      | |  |   |  |   | | | |    /|
>                      |_|  |  :|: |-  |\|  \    | |
>                      | |  |  :|: |   | |   |   |_|_
>                      | |  |_  |  |_  | | |_|     |
>                     
>                             THE AWAKENING
>
>Or, we could always go for Aliens' (on the homeworld), A Fistfull
>of Aliens (set in the old west), 7 Hosts for 7 Aliens (a few
>sequels down the line...)... sigh, I remember the speculation for
>III - Three Aliens and a Little Lady, The Three Aliens,
>Alienses... :)


How about "ALIENS 4: THE ALIENS INFEST URANUS" ?
From: seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: 16 Aug 92 11:53:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: seawasp@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

In article <66108@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>In article <4723@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>>	Nope. The nearly universal impression of those I know (that is, the
>>impression of 34 out of 35) who have seen the movie is:
>>	1) Alien^3 sucked the big one.

>This is bullshit (either that, or you have just started reading this
>newsgroup, or you have a very selective memory).  I've read opinions on
>this newsgroup and r.a.m about the film since the day the film opened,
>and they seemed to be split pretty evenly. 

	Please read carefully the lines quoted above:

	...THOSE I KNOW...

	I don't KNOW the people on these newsgroups. 

	I KNOW people that I talk with fairly often, face to face, or perhaps
that I have very long and varied EMail correspondences with.

                                 Sea Wasp
                                   /^\
                                   ;;;
From: trent@mailhost.hsas.washington.edu (Sigfried Trent)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: What's wrong with Alien^3?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:26:22 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: Academic Services, UW

> 
> (1) The Alien doesn't want to kill or hurt me because I'm carrying a
>     queen embryo.
> (2) I hate this Alien, and I want to kill it.
> (3) Because of (1), if I try to kill it, it won't fight back.
> (4) If I get doused with acid trying to kill it, I'll die, but I'll die
>     anyway when the embryo "hatches", so who cares?  If I die this way,
>     I might kill the embryo in the process.
> 
> At that point, I'd pick up a heavy iron bar, go down into the tunnels,
> find the Alien, and whack the living shit out of it.
> 
> This would've been the logical end to Ripley's story. If they'd done it
> this way, I don't think it could've salvaged the film as a whole, but
> it would've resulted in a better film than what we got.
> 
Keep dreaming.
Like the alien is just going to sit there and take it.  Sure riply hit me
with the big iron bar again.  I dont mind.  Do it some more I like it when
your angry.
No chance, the alien would either take the bar away or skedadle of and kill
someone less dangeous.
If riply had used logic like that whe wouldent have made it past the first
half of the first film.
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From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: Naming Alien 4
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:51:36 GMT

How about Naked Aliens 4 1/2?
Might get an X rating though...

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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:32:25 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <4830@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, by seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp):
> 	I actually found Burke at least shocking, and his behavior chilling.

I found him painful to watch, he was so stereotypical and predictable.

> 	And we didn't KNOW anything about The Company in the first movie.

Yes, and that was good.  Especially since Ridley Scott spared us the
information (revealed by James Cameron) that the future striped-tie
yuppies were the real villains.

> I assumed when I watched it that it was just a big megacorp, rather like
> those in Neuromancer, and there were plenty of others out there.

In Alien, you can still assume that.  In Aliens, the society is a
carbon copy of the 1980s, right down to the neckties and the Marines
with US flags on their suits.

> 	As it happened, my guess after seeing the first movie was implemented
> almost exactly by Cameron:

> 	Cameron paid quite close attention to the first movie, even putting
> in little things like characters that behaved very much like their parallels
> in the first...

Yes, he kept themes from the first, repeating it in parts, in a dull,
unoriginal manner.

[some valid criticisms of Alien 3 plot holes deleted]

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From: moscatel@granite.ma30.bull.com (Joseph Moscatelli)
Subject: Re: Psycho (was Re: Directors cuts in general)
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:26:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.184137.27426@cunews.carleton.ca> wcstom@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Hamill) writes:
>>
>Or, perhaps, because in 'Psycho 2', Vera Miles portrayed the sister of the
>Janet Leigh character who was murdered in the original movie.  Was Martin
>Balsam the police detective in the original?
>
Yes for Balsam. However, I believe Vera Miles played the sister in the
original. I think she and John Gavin were the ones involved in the cellar
scene with Perkins (opps, Norman) at the end of the movie.

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From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: 20 Aug 1992 23:37:52 GMT
Organization: sio
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu



>     Who ever said that The Colonial Marines wasn't a DIVISION of The Company?
>     Not a separate entity, but a connected arm.  Not a national, but a 
>     corporate, defense mechanism.  

Good point.  
I wonder what sort of "bug hunts" the Marines get sent out on, besides
the one we're privy to.
Do the Corporations fight each other?
Will the Colonial Marines eventually be able to incorporate the Alien
into its arsenal?  Adopt it as a mascot?

Jeff Bytof
rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu

>     -Scott Gorcey
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: 20 Aug 1992 19:41:50 GMT
Organization: sio
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu


>     I see Weyland-Yutani as being quite similar. Although they have a large
>degree of autonomy, and even some direct influence with whatever earthly 
>government (U.S., U.N., whatever) controls the Colonial Marines, they are
>by no means immune to prosecution and regulation by that government if they
>exceed certain guidelines (like smuggling a hostile e.t. through quarantine).

Questions:  Who would Weyland-Yutani sell Alien-derived weapons to?
Are there wars on Earth, where the combatants would use 
biomechanical weapons that could propagate out of control?  Are 
they fighting scruffy colonists?  A threatening civilization in deep space?  

Jeff Bytof
rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu


>     Dayne Miller
>       daynem@u.washington.edu
From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Directors cuts in general
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:12:06 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug11.151017.4120@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:
> I meant cuts as in cutting from one scene to another, or cutting up a
> scene to give it impact; for example, the shower scene in PSYCHO, with
> a lot of quick cuts from Vera Miles screaming and thrashing around to
> the knife plunging down and back again is an example of an editor doing
> a great job -- whether to use sweeping dissolves or lap dissolves, etc.,
> etc.

Dear Mr. Man from Another Place:
	In our place it was Janet Leigh, not Vera Miles.

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From: disaacs@pietrzak.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs)
Subject: Re: Memoirs of an Invisible Man
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:51:24 GMT

In <1729hfINNlf3@ensta.ensta.fr> corwin@ensta.ensta.fr (Gilles Gravier) writes:


>	Anyone notice the GREAT special effects in this movie? Just so
>bluffing! They thought just about everything... Even up to searching for
>him using 2 coupled cameras, one Infra Red, on Visual, to spot the guy who
>appears on one, but not the other... But...

>	- If he is Invisible, meaning light just flows through him... Why
>doesn't Infra Red (just adjacent to plain Red on the light spectrum) also
>flow through him?

I could be wrong, but I think that Infra-Red is the spectrum that transmits
heat energy (or something like that) so a person would not be a reflector
of IR but an actual source of IR.  That's why you could see him in IR.

I, of course, reserve the right to be wrong at all times!

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From: val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner)
Subject: Re: Nightfall & Isaac Asimov
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:16:28 GMT

eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
: In article <0eTGaOy00Uh7E1Kc5S@andrew.cmu.edu>, bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bill
: Thomas) writes:
: > 
: > The movie was lame -- but I always like to see the film version of
: > books/short stories that I like. 
: > 
: > How was the Asimov/Silverberg novel? 
: 
: It was great!  I loved it.  IMHO, the expansion on the origional story made
: it just that much more interesting.

Ditto and ditto.  The novilization of the story, however, seemed incomplete.
I hope that Asimov was able to finish (or at least get a significant start)
on the rest of the story.  I want to know what happens.  Who knows, if he
had lived longer, he might have even been able to weave it into his
Foundation/Robot series.

On a related note, have you noticed that Asimov has included more sex in
his later novels?  Clark in the Rama series also seemed to add gratuitous
sex.  I've also heard about "Cradle" which is sex with a little bit of
story for the SF fans.  Do you think that this is an effect of the authors
aging or just a general symptom of authors in our time?  (Followups to
this paragraph should change the subject line.)

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From: rob@watney.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rob Carriere)
Subject: Re: Laser and tape questions
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:12:19 GMT

In article <16ar5jINN8va@ensta.ensta.fr> corwin@ensta.ensta.fr (Gilles
Gravier) writes: 
>	- Also, the people in UK have a different TV standard, called PAL, 
>which uses a refresh rate of 50 Hz - European standards, versus 60 Hz - US.

Just a quick note: 50 vs 60 Hz is by no means the only difference between PAL
and NTSC.  You couldn't get an NTSC TV to display PAL by hacking the refresh
rate. 

SR
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:55:13 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

Just a few nitpicks.

From article <9223300.27213@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, by jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma):
> An AI sophisticated enough to do this on its own is inconsistent with Aliens. 

No, it's not.  If you can build a brain like Ash's and Bishop's and
fit it into a person's head, then they can also put it into a ship.
"Mother" on the Nostromo was a bit like that, but very weak.

>If
> the computers on the Sulaco could do this, they could easily have sent down the
> second dropship to pick up the team once radio contact was lost. 

It could be that the military doesn't trust artificial brains to run
its ships.
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From: flalbert@lascar.puc.cl (L.Alberti IIC.FUN)
Subject: 2001, 2010 and David Bowman
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 17:19:10 GMT

I've got a question and I think this is the most proper place to ask it
(tell me if I'm wrong):

As you know, 2001 movie was made in 1968 (more or less) and there is one
character called "David Bowman". In 1986 was made 2010; in this movie
appears again David Bowman ... and he looks identical to 2001's Bowman:
not just look-alike, but IDENTICAL.

In 2010 credits, Bowman is performed by Keir Bullea.
In 2001 credits, there is no reference to anyone (just a "A Stanley
Kubrick Release" message). Well... here is my question: does anyone know
who performed Bowman in 2001????

Thanks in advance. MIGUEL FARAH

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