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From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Rubber ducky FAQs?
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 19:47:21 GMT


I have a few questions regarding rubber ducky antennas as applied to portable
scanners and/or general coverage receivers in general.  Maybe this is a FAQ.
If so, I'd really appreciate it if some kind soul out there would send me a
copy.

I have a Uniden 100xlt scanner.  Is the supplied antenna that comes with this
thing the best I can do short of some exotic external monster mounted on the
roof of my condo?  Are there other ducks on the market that are better than
what Uniden supplied me with?  (Note that for mobile use, I just use an
external magnetic base that goes on the roof of my car.  The rubber duck
that came with the scanner just screws into the BNC jack of the magnetic
base.  This works much better than keeping the scanner (with antenna) in
the car.)

Regarding the general theory behind all this, I think I read in Police Call
that to make your own duck, you calculate the wave length (or some fraction
thereof) of the highest freq you want to receive and make the duck that length.
If so, what effect does that have on freqs significantly below that?

As an example, my scanner does just fine above 137 MHz.  The aircraft band
is marginal and I here virtually NOTHING between 29 and 54 MHz.  How can I
improve PORTABLE performance in the lower (longer wavelength) freqs?  Must
I buy a rubber duck optimized to each band I want to receive??

Please send Email or post to the net if you think other people could benefit.
Thanks.

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
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From: mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Re: Making Scanners Illegal
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:32:14 GMT

In article <66685@cup.portal.com> VasRat@cup.portal.com (John F Braun) writes:
>The so-called 'scan ban' bill, HR1674 which passed the House 9/24/91,
>does have a provision to ban certain reveivers, but the working of one
>of the sections is a little different than what has been posted here.
>The bill proposes to ban:
>
>1) reveiving transmissions in the frequencies allocated to the domestic
>   CELLULAR radio telecommunications
>
>I took the above clause straight from a letter from my senator, so I
>assume it is accurate.  The above proposal is annoying, but certainly
>no need to proclaim that the sky is falling.  It's an annoyance like
>the ECPA.  But please write your friends in congress.  I wrote all
>mine and got responses ranging from grudging admission that there is
>a problem to a belief that the right to listen to the airwaves is not
>an absolute.  Yikes!  PS : The senate bill is S1132.

Keep in mind that most (if not all) members of Congress use cellular
phones to discuss their deals. The cellular lobby is very intelligiently
using these Congressman's worst fears to push this legislation. In other
words, congressmen have a vested interest in protecting their own
communications. Don't expect them to rally around a bunch of fanatical
radio/electronics nerds who want their right to eavesdrop protected...
We all need to see things from this (their) perspective and make calm,
logical arguments against legislated privacy and unenforceable laws.
- Mike

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From: kingpin@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Joe Smooth)
Subject: Icom 2SRA
Organization: /home/fsg/kingpin/.organization
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:41:06 GMT

Does anyone know of any MODS for the Icom 2SRA? (other than the 3 key mod and the extended transmit?) 
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: horak@convex.com (David Horak)
Subject: Re: Pro-37 for sale (2 days old!!)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:07:50 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1asbloINNd0j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith) writes:


>I live in Parma Hts Ohio. (a suburb of Cleveland).  There is another
>suburb, two cities away, Strongsville, who uses 851.0125 for all there
>police/fire stuff.  The unit starts at 551.1125.  Just misses it by .1!
>ok, no problem, restore full 800 Mhz band, and that will do it, right?
>WRONG!!  The step rate is not set right, and when you enter in 851.0125, it
>automatically switches to 851.0100 or something close. 

Since I don't have my Pro34 with me, I'll trust that you are correct.  But,
even if you could pick up that frequency, it probably wouldn't do you much
good. The greater Cleveland cellular network images will blow away most of
the business/police/fire band anyway. I know a fireman who bought a Pro34
so he could monitor 851.whatever and he kept getting cellular images on 
those frequencies. Of course, if you would have bought the Pro2006, you
wouldn't have to worry about cell images ;')  At any rate, if you're close
to the transmitter and you are only .0025 off center, you should still hear
the channel just fine.

David

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From: larry@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Hero)
Subject: Re: Scanner Mail Order Catalogs
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:06:06 GMT

drawson@sagehen.Tymnet.COM (Dick Rawson) writes:

>>Does anyone know of any mail order companies or other electronic companies
>>(that are reputable) that sell scanners through the mail?  

>518-436-9606 Scanner World
>313-996-8888 Communications Electronics Inc.

I assume these are normal telephone numbers? You don't happen to
have FAX numbers for those companies?

--
Lasse Hero  -  larry@mits.mdata.fi
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From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Subject: Re: USAF callsigns
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:00:45 GMT

In article <Bvoq75.pA@ais.org> tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler) writes:
> 
>   REACH ##### are Air Materiel Command (formerly MAC) aircraft.
>
    I've got some sort of mental block concerning A,M,C,  It actually is the
Air Movement Command.

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P.O. Box 443     Packet: KA8VIR @KA8UNZ.#SEMI.MI.USA.NA
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48197-0443                  PADI, USPA, AFCEA, INEOA, P226, VFR700, etc.
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From: jclarke@teal.csn.org (J Christopher Clarke)
Subject: ICOM-2SRA: 2m and Scanner: How is it?
Keywords: ICOM
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:57:40 GMT

	I am currently in the market for both a full range scanner and
a new 2m HT.  In this months QST, there was a review of the availble 2m
radios.  Among them is the ICOM-2SRA, which got good review.  I seem to
the exact person that the unit was designed for.  I am looking for any 
comments users have with this unit, both as a HT and a scanner.  For 
example, would it make more sense to buy a KENWOOD TH-28A and RADIO 
SHACK Pro 38 (?), there 200 channel desk unit.  Does the '2-SRA have
a seek mode?  How fast is the scanning of programmed channels?  Any insight
that someone may have, both the amateur world and the scanner world would
be appreciated.

Thanks,

J. Christopher Clarke
jclarke@taf.atmos.colostate.edu
From: VasRat@cup.portal.com (John F Braun)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Making Scanners Illegal
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 23:06:28 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Sep25.133147.21001@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
  <1992Sep26.025539.28007@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>

The so-called 'scan ban' bill, HR1674 which passed the House 9/24/91,
does have a provision to ban certain reveivers, but the working of one
of the sections is a little different than what has been posted here.
The bill proposes to ban:

1) reveiving transmissions in the frequencies allocated to the domestic
   CELLULAR radio telecommunications

I took the above clause straight from a letter from my senator, so I
assume it is accurate.  The above proposal is annoying, but certainly
no need to proclaim that the sky is falling.  It's an annoyance like
the ECPA.  But please write your friends in congress.  I wrote all
mine and got responses ranging from grudging admission that there is
a problem to a belief that the right to listen to the airwaves is not
an absolute.  Yikes!  PS : The senate bill is S1132.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: Cellular between 440 and 450 MHz?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:10:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.021603.13225@bert.eecs.uic.edu> rorem@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Doug Rorem) writes:
>kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>>I was scanning the HAM band between 440 and 450 MHz.  I found some HAM
>>repeater freqs in my area (Milwaukee) which is exactly what I was looking
>>for.  I also found a bunch of what appeared to be cellular phone freqs
>>comming in very clear.  I heard the whole bit: dial tones, DTMF, ring tones
>>and a whole lot of conversations.  Why was I hearing this stuff in that freq
>>range (440 MHz to 450 MHz)?.........
>
>   Some hams have phone-patch setups through their repeaters which
>allow them to make telephone calls from their mobile rigs.  They are half
>duplex, meaning that they need to push a button to talk and then release
>to listen.  Many radios have touch-tone keypads built in for just this
>purpose.  My recollection is that these are much more prevalent on the
>2 meter band ~140 MHz, however.

While the possibility of hearing a "phone patch" was there, it would seem that
Kevin's description of hearing "a whole lot of conversations" would be
most inconsistent with ham phone patches.  Generally, ham's use of
phone patches is fairly limited to emergency communications or other
communications that could not otherwise be completed by simply stopping
at a telephone booth.  The use of phone patches for routine telephoning
is highly discouraged (although it does happen).

So, I'd suspect that what was heard was indeed cellular from the 880-900
megahertz range that was being picked up because of some type of
design quirk of the scanner being used.

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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From: ket@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Keller Taylor at AT&T GM&E in N. Andover, MA)
Subject: UNIDEN MR8100 800 Mhz ACCESS
Organization: AT&T - Global Management & Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:16:12 GMT
Keywords: MR8100

I have been using the MR8100 scanner for about a year now with great results
but have still not found anyone who has discovered a way to enable 800 Mhz
access directly from the keyboard of the radio.  The access password on
the software works just fine, but has anyone found a way to permanently
enable it so that they can be entered directly from the radio?  I do not
know if this is a software or hardware controlled feature.  Anyone have
any ideas or thoughts?

Keller - WA3YSU

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From: PLAWS@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU (Peter Laws)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Negligent Dispatcher in MA?
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:08:20 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Anyone in Mass. have info on a Lexington (?) FD Fire Alarm Operator that didn't
dispatch EMS when he should have and "caused" a woman's death???

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From: scott@Cadence.COM (Scott Gustafson)
Subject: What scanner to pourchase?
Reply-To: scott@cadence.com
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:17:27 GMT

I've outgrown my old scanner (RS 20-channel model without air or 800). So,
what is the best scanner for purchase?  I would like to be able to monitor
all bands including air and 800+.  I would also like it to interface to
my Macintosh and be modifiable for any locked out freqs.  How about also
being able to store about 50+ freq.

Any Suggestions welcome.

scott
--
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Cadence Design Systems, 555 River Oaks Pkwy., San Jose, CA  95134
Internet:	scott@cadence.com
From: sprouse@n3igw.pgh.pa.us (Ken Sprouse)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cellular between 440 and 450 MHz?
Summary: Might also be UHF MTS telephone
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:57:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sprouse Consulting, Oakmont, Pa.


Stuff about hearing phone calls on UHF frequencies and speculation about
it being ham radio autopatch trafic deleted.
> 
Bill Sohl writes:
> So, I'd suspect that what was heard was indeed cellular from the 880-900
> megahertz range that was being picked up because of some type of
> design quirk of the scanner being used.
> 

Prior to the arrival of cellular there was a LOT of mobile
phone activity between 152.51 and 152.84 with 30 kHz channel
spacing that was supplied by "the phone company".  With the
limited number of channels available the system filled rapidly
and a person could spend months (years) waiting for a mobile
phone.  There were also a block of frequencies assigned in
the UHF band that in my area were used by third party service
providers and took some of the overflow.  I would be inclined
to think that this is what you are hearing based on the 
volume of calls that you heard.  By the way, most of the
hi-band channels in my area are now used by Bell of PA for 
their service reps and cable installation people.  I haven't
listened to the UHF channels for a number of years so I don't
know if they are still active on not.  Just another "could be".
 
	73's

-- 

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GEnie mail KSPROUSE /  Packet radio n3igw@w2xo.pa.usa.noam
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mladair@mtu.edu (MATTHEW L. ADAIR)
Subject: BC 200XLT mods?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:12:08 GMT

Does anybody know where I can find any sort of modifications for
the Uniden BC 200 XLT scanner?

Thanks!   Matt Adair      mladair@mtu.edu
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Re: National Standard of Time Broadcast
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:15:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> The broadcasts that the RS TimeCube received were those from WWV in
> Boulder, Colorado, on frequencies of 5000, 10000, and 15000 kHz.
> 
> Allan Courtney, DMD <> Shortwave Topic Leader <> GEnie Radio & Electronics RT 



Beg pardon, but WWV is located north of Ft. Collins, Colorado. 
(Well, it looks more like Wellington, Colo. and it's really in 
 unincorporated Larimer County.)
 
The National Bureau of Standards offices are located in the People's Republic
of Boulder.

We try to keep the fruits and nuts and socialists corraled in one place
(Boulder) so we can keep an eye on them! 

Ron Miller
NW0U
Ft. Collins, Colo. 
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From: araichel@cser.encore.com (Alan Raichel)
Subject: ICOM 7000, 7100 - what is difference?
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:46:43 GMT

	What is the difference between the ICOM 7000, and the 7100?  I
have seen the EEB catalog, and they say that the ICOM 7100 is about
$50 cheaper than the 7000, but has more memories, etc.  Has anyone played
with either and has any comments?  I am most concerned with selectivity,
and sensitivity.

thanks

alan
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From: xdemsv@pds006.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (mark s vozar)
Subject: Signal codes	
Organization: Oryx Energy Company
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:15:47 GMT

The local Bedford, Texas police use a code when dispatching officers.
The terminology goes somthing like " We have a signal 21 in progress at
... ". This does not appear to relate to the normal 10 codes that are
used. Does anyone have a list of what the various signal codes are?

thanks in advance
mark
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: rorem@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Doug Rorem)
Subject: Re: Cellular between 440 and 450 MHz?
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:16:03 GMT

kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:

>I was scanning the HAM band between 440 and 450 MHz.  I found some HAM
>repeater freqs in my area (Milwaukee) which is exactly what I was looking
>for.  I also found a bunch of what appeared to be cellular phone freqs
>comming in very clear.  I heard the whole bit: dial tones, DTMF, ring tones
>and a whole lot of conversations.  Why was I hearing this stuff in that freq
>range (440 MHz to 450 MHz)?.........

   Some hams have phone-patch setups through their repeaters which
allow them to make telephone calls from their mobile rigs.  They are half
duplex, meaning that they need to push a button to talk and then release
to listen.  Many radios have touch-tone keypads built in for just this
purpose.  My recollection is that these are much more prevalent on the
2 meter band ~140 MHz, however.

Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: fireman@wam.umd.edu (Aaron Joseph Peterson)
Subject: Re: Cellular between 440 and 450 MHz?SCUP
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:00:46 GMT




Ok, I can buy the fact that he may be hearing phone conversations in the 400
mhz band that belong there, but what about the ones that don't. I have a
Regency TS-2 scanner with cellular and I have noticed that I routinely pick
up cellular phone conversations on fire and police frequencies that I have
entered into it (around 460-480 mhz). I thought it was just poor filtering
on the front end of the scanner until I started picking up cellular conversations on my Motorola Minitor II pager (F.D. issued) which is set at 460.600 by
a crystal. I am now starting to beleive that cheap car phones emit frequencies
near the 460-480 band when you are close to them (ie. driving on the interstate).      
It's just a theory.
(If this is true, does this make my pager and myself in violation of the
ECPA act of 1986?) I shudder to think of the implications.....

Amatuer radio operater (N3JVP) Firefighter/EMT Aaron Peterson
(I own 6 scanners)
From: drw@esl.com (Dave Waters)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Mail Order Catalogs
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:43:17 GMT
Followup-To: alt.radio.scanner
Distribution: usa
Organization: ESL Inc.

In article <92270.131922RSWANSO@auvm.american.edu>,
RSWANSO@auvm.american.edu wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of any mail order companies or other electronic companies
> (that are reputable) that sell scanners through the mail?  Please post the
> names of the companies and the phone numbers and addresses please.  Thank
> you very much for your help.
> 
>   ----Reid Swanson             E-Mail:  RSwanso@AUVM.American.edu

More:

Galaxy Electronics    (216) 376-2402 < ham, SWL, scanners
Universal Radio Inc.  (800) 431-3939 < ham, SWL, scanners
Marymac Industries    (800) 231-3680 < Radio Shack dealer, discount prices


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From: mab3474@zeus.tamu.edu (Myles Barkman-KG5AI Tx A&M Univ.)
Subject: Re: Motorola's 'Secure-Clear' Cordless Phones
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:16:00 GMT

In article <Bv9p9F.Iqr@ais.org>, tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler) writes...
>           "Why A Motorola Cordless Phone?"   
> 
>Products Division (telephone # 800/331-645)iriit cogimtsolhlpnadsln cr
>ie&aastm,rmV Et uet'ACNO'oimfrcaiidmlay&eda ormn er oc   
>     Q. What are security codes dh  ed ere number.
>     White-noise like tha  dila rmRiaog
>which they stopped markfrhi oera w-a doga bt dcd ottrinrn
>eri gisl  hmtc o knfrom scratch, a ctfbt5 Aet eriCommunications Privacy Act
>  ei i snosinb tm htoooawho surely knows better-- would produce the slick
>that by using,one nei lt ra  a might be attributable to
>        Neseh partnclb
>        convenience with voice scrmi r        added [emphasis theirs]
Looks like someone was doing quite a lot of scrambling in that message. :)
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From: ajg@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (anthony.j.gaeta)
Subject: PRO-2000
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:20:15 GMT
Keywords: Cellular Mods

Greetings!

First I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question
regarding Disney World frequencies. I now have another question.
Can the PRO-2000 be modified for the cellular band? If so, how?

Thanks again,

Tony Gaeta
hocpa!n2nkc
From: sch@getafix (Simon Hamner)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: pro-35 mods
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:06:24 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi,
   I seem to remember someone mentioning mods to the pro-35 scanner.
If someone could mail a description of these to me they would be
appreciated. 


      Thanks
         Simon.

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