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From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject:   Joke of the WEEK!  (FRESH FROM IRAN!)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:39:47 GMT

You know,  people live in glass houses, should not through rocks.

					     Bugs Bunny!  :-)

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  Iranian cleric invites Western women to take up Islamic veil

   ATHENS, Greece (UPI) -- Iranian religious leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei said Wednesday that women in the West were being exploited
economically and sexually, and invited them ``to chastity, to Hejab,''
or the Islamic veil, Tehran radio said.

   Khamenei was speaking to a hall full of Iranian women wearing the
chador -- a head-to-toe covering -- assembled on the occasion of the birth
anniversary of Fatima Zahra, a Muslim woman saint.

   A Tehran radio broadcast monitored in Athens said the Iranian cleric
lashed out at what he described as the exploitation of women in the
West.

   ``Not only in the workplace and factories, but also in art and
literature, women have been wronged,'' he said. This was ``reflected in
art works, novels, films and paintings,'' the Iranian leader said.

   He blasted Western societies for ``treating women as consumers,
playthings for men and cheap labor.'' In Western societies, ``women are
considered objects of pleasure for men...(and) they call this womens'
freedom,'' he said.

   ``I invite women to modesty, to chastity, to Hejab,'' Khamenei said.
Iranian women who strictly followed the rules of Hajab were a model for
others, he said.

   Islam agreed with the concept of working women, provided their work 
``does not clash with their basic and most important profession, which
is bringing up children'' and keeping the family together, the ayatollah
said.

   Women should not fall prey to those who enticed them into wearing
make-up and making themselves look attractive. He invited women to 
``keep their dignity'' by ``not making themselves attractive to strange
men, so that their eyes can take pleasure.''

   Iran has forced women to wear the veil since the 1979 revolution that
brought the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini to power. Islamic
revolutionary guards have since beaten women for breaking the rules
regarding veiling, and have carted hundreds to prison.

   Tuesday, Khamenei ordered that 76 women held in Iranian prisons
should be pardoned or have their prison terms reduced, the official
Islamic Republic News Agency said.

   The women were earlier convicted by Islamic revolutionary courts, the
agency said. It did not specify the types of offenses for which they
were jailed.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.rights.human
From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: AI: More execution and torture in Iran; Sunni leader executed
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:45:28 GMT


  
The Amnesty International released the following report a couple days
ago:

IRAN: Amnesty International Concerned at Continuing Political Executions

Amnesty International has received information that three members of the
Mojahedin Organization of Iran were executed in Iran approximately two
months ago. The Organization fears that at least 20 other prisoners, also
members of the Mojahedin Organization of Iran, may be at risk of
executions.

The three men- Ali Reza Hamidabad, 36; Hamid Kord, 32; and Gholam Reza
Sagvand, 37; were followers of Dr. Ali Shariati and had been arrested
about two years ago. They spent most of their imprisonment in Dezful
Prison, where their executions are believed to have taken place. They were
all reported to have been tried in secret ...

    An alleged Kurdish Democratic Party of Iran (KDPI) supporter, Hussein
Mouloudi, is reported to have been executed in public in Orumieh in October
1992. No information is available about his trial. He had reportedly been
imprisoned for two years in different prisons.

    Dr. Ali Mozaffarian, a well known surgeon and one of the leaders of the
Sunni Muslim community in Fars province in southern Iran, was executed in
Shiraz ... His video taped "confessions", which may have been obtained as a
result of physical or psychological pressure, were broadcast on television
in Shiraz and in the street of Kazerun and Lar.

    Dr. Mozaffarian was arrested in his office in late 1991, a day after he
and other Sunni leaders had attended a meeting in the house of Shiraz's
Friday Prayer cleric, Ayatollah Haeri, to discuss deteriorating Sunni/Shia
relations in Fars. Reportedly, his arrest was in connection with his
refusal to take part in a "unity prayer" and his outspoken opposition to
the government. He was executed following riots in Shiraz in August 1992.

    [more ...]

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From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: U.N. Decries the Khomeini regime again
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:55:56 GMT

In article <saied.724451152@cwis>, saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
|> 
|> [article deleted]
|>   

Saied*,

could you please give us the Resolution number.  I would like to 
request it from UN.

You know after your 5 hours meeting with President-elct Clinton and
AL-G including their wives. I am kinda hesitant to believe you.

-- 

   "Switch the computer off, wait 30 seconds and switch it on again
                            if nothing happens."

					"Stepping Up To OS/2 2.0"

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Salman Rushdie)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:49:36 GMT

In article <sehari.724625660@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>
>Rushdi's bounty is not being offered by the government, it is being offered
>by 1000,000s people world wide, which by free will paid  few dollars
>to this particular reason.  The government has nothing to do with it.
>
Where ever it came from don't you think there are muslims who need that money
Even if you follow Islamic ideology, it would be better to help the needy than
set up a bounty for the murder of a man who "expressed his opinions" (sound
familiar, I wonder who said that on SCI recently)

>Yugoslavia, and Lebanon's problem started when many groups in those countries
>started to gain the power by arm.  Rather then saving the economical problems
>these groups started to change the ideological set up their country.  That is
>instead of building factories, schools,... ; they start fighting over their
>own ideological differences with arm.
>
>                    With highest regards,
>                         Babak   Sehari.    
>
Kind of like what the akhoonds have done in Iran. Now I see the similarity.

>>-- 
>>Salman Rushdie 
>is an at large dog.  
>-- 
Khomeini was an illiterate bloodthirsty bastard, who, if there is a god, is 
burning in hell right now. He never read Satanic Verses and neither have you.
But I guess murdering people is quite normal in your "OPINION" which you seem
to value so much. I have another idea for improving Iran's chances of recovery,
Mr. Sehari stay here don't go back to Iran.
 


-- 
Salman Rushdie

"And I brought unto thee these Satanic Verses to quench thy thurst for truth in the form of fantacy. So go forth and live free."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:54:20 GMT

In <1992Dec17.052720.22100@wam.umd.edu> ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Salman Rushdie) writes:

>In article <sehari.724491107@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>
>>Hey man, this is nothing new.  Even in United States Single tax rate is higher
>>than married people.  The same way that they live right now they can continue
>>to live, that is the girl could stay with her parents and the boy with his

>First of all the US' single tax rate is not 90% and they don't take away your
>drivers lisence if you don't get married. No comparison there I'm affraid, so

The rate changes from year to year.  Do not worry, with Democrats in power
in Washington US rates might exceed that too. -:) Here, we are not arguing 
the exact rate.  %85, %90, %95 should be decided by many other factor.  Here,
what we are arguing is tax incentive for people to get married.

Regarding Drivers licenses, the insurance, which is required for driving
in the US, is much higher for single people than married ones.  In some
places more than %200 higher. For example, if you are 21 and single.

             [  Some irrelevant material deleted ]

>The economic disaster that has taken place in post revolution Iran is mind 
>boggling. To compare to the recession in the US is retarded. And if you want
>my suggestion for improvements, first and formost we have to get rid of the 
>akhoonds. That right there is half the solution. Now Mr. Sehari do you have
>any suggestions? Or do you believe that while are country is in economic
>devastation, it is right for the government to offer millions of dollars to
>any schmuck that murders Salman Rushdie. Finally, how you have managed to link
>this discussion to Lebanon and Yugoslavia beats me. I had no idea that the 
>reason for all the unrest in said countries was due to the large number of
>"cheshm sefid" kids over 21 that refused to get married because they could not
>afford it. And to think that all this time I thought the root of the problems 
>were ethnic differences. Silly me.

Rushdi's bounty is not being offered by the government, it is being offered
by 1000,000s people world wide, which by free will paid  few dollars
to this particular reason.  The government has nothing to do with it.

Yugoslavia, and Lebanon's problem started when many groups in those countries
started to gain the power by arm.  Rather then saving the economical problems
these groups started to change the ideological set up their country.  That is
instead of building factories, schools,... ; they start fighting over their
own ideological differences with arm.

                    With highest regards,
                         Babak   Sehari.    

>-- 
>Salman Rushdie 
is an at large dog.  
-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Iranian cleric invites Western women to take up Islamic veil
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:57:50 GMT


	ATHENS, Greece (UPI) -- Iranian religious leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei said Wednesday that women in the West were being exploited
economically and sexually, and invited them ``to chastity, to Hejab,''
or the Islamic veil, Tehran radio said.
	Khamenei was speaking to a hall full of Iranian women wearing the
chador -- a head-to-toe covering -- assembled on the occasion of the birth
anniversary of Fatima Zahra, a Muslim woman saint.
	A Tehran radio broadcast monitored in Athens said the Iranian cleric
lashed out at what he described as the exploitation of women in the
West.
	``Not only in the workplace and factories, but also in art and
literature, women have been wronged,'' he said. This was ``reflected in
art works, novels, films and paintings,'' the Iranian leader said.
	He blasted Western societies for ``treating women as consumers,
playthings for men and cheap labor.'' In Western societies, ``women are
considered objects of pleasure for men...(and) they call this womens'
freedom,'' he said.
	``I invite women to modesty, to chastity, to Hejab,'' Khamenei said.
Iranian women who strictly followed the rules of Hajab were a model for
others, he said.
	Islam agreed with the concept of working women, provided their work 
``does not clash with their basic and most important profession, which
is bringing up children'' and keeping the family together, the ayatollah
said.
	Women should not fall prey to those who enticed them into wearing
make-up and making themselves look attractive. He invited women to 
``keep their dignity'' by ``not making themselves attractive to strange
men, so that their eyes can take pleasure.''
	Iran has forced women to wear the veil since the 1979 revolution that
brought the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini to power. Islamic
revolutionary guards have since beaten women for breaking the rules
regarding veiling, and have carted hundreds to prison.
	Tuesday, Khamenei ordered that 76 women held in Iranian prisons
should be pardoned or have their prison terms reduced, the official
Islamic Republic News Agency said.
	The women were earlier convicted by Islamic revolutionary courts, the
agency said. It did not specify the types of offenses for which they
were jailed.


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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:17:42 EST
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Nobel prize
 <1992Dec11.230050.10717@unet.net.com>

In article <1992Dec11.230050.10717@unet.net.com>, mithra@iran.unet.com (Mithra
Lahsaie) says:
>
>In article <1992Dec11.153547.16667@eua.ericsson.se> euaamt@eua.ericsson.se    r
>(Ami
>Taheri) writes:
>>Last night I watched TV showing the ceremony where they give Nobel prizes to
>winners. Ofcourse
>>it was here in Stockholm like any other year. It was a very nice ceremony to
>watch. But the
>>best part was to see that the wife of winner of prize in economy (from USA)  s
>wa
>Persian.
>>
>>I think this is the closest we have ever got to a Nobel Prize or??
>
>
>As Churchill used to say: Behind every successful man is a very supportive
>wife! (or something along these lines)


  Hi Mithra,

    I am not sure about what Churchill said but a friend use to say
    "behind every successful man is an exhausted woman".
    Isn't that more to the point?

RezA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: sbog6936@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bin Ong)
Subject: arrest of Business Times journalists
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:01:17 GMT
Keywords: politics

Just read in the latest issue of SIFlash on the GOPHER - that 4 BT journalists
had been arrested for violation of the Official Secrets Act in releasing
Dept of Stats estimate that 2nd qtr economic growth rate in Singapore was
less than 5%. And now the kicker: of the 4 journalists, 2 had defence
attorneys from the bigies in law firms in town. Specifically, one 
has a defence attorney from Lee&Lee, and the other, from ShookLin&Bok. 
For the uninitiated, Lee&Lee is Snr Minister Lee and his wife's law
firm (hence Lee&Lee), while ShookLin&Bok (if I remember correctly), had
been a major source of the current High Court bench.

Personally I think this is interesting because:

1)   Why would this leak create a stink? A growth rate of 4.7% is not
     bad... bet Bush may have been re-elected if that had been the
     case. Also, I don't think this is such a big, unlike, for example,
     corruption cases, or military secrets. Is the arrest a result of
     the coming by-elections?

2)   Secondly, having attorneys from Lee&Lee to defend the defendants?
     HAdn't remembered any instances when they take on the govt in
     cases where there may not have been a conflict of interpretation 
     of the constitution. What if they win? Would that represent a
     rebuke against the GCK tenure? Or maybe that sets up the stage 
     for GCK to step down, and Lee Jr to succeed??



And the latest in offering himself up for re-election; is GCK committing
suicide? Or just another ploy to stop the erosion of PAP seats since it
is unlikely that voters will throw their PM out of office?? After all, GCK
said that it may create a crisis of sorts if he loses, and both DPMs
under treatment for cancer?    



Bin Ong
Univ of Illinois
INTERNET: bin-ong@uiuc.edu 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ong@cs.columbia.edu (Jueychong Ong)
Subject: Re: Email address for ITI
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: soc
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:41:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.191902.29331@borland.com> jtteh@borland.com (J.T. Teh) writes:
>Hi, does anyone have the email for ITI's Vax in Singapore?
>It should be something like itivax.com.sg? or itivax.edu.sg?
>Thanks.
>
>- JT

It's itivax.iti.gov.sg


--jc

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:09:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec7.202058.120295@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> wns1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (WANTYA NAJADI SAPARDAN) writes:

>
>
>Sorry, you aren't telling the whole truth.  I took this from
>alt.culture.indonesia:
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

STuff Deleted


    How do you suppose to confirm that Xanana was under pressure?  How does
    somebody outside that interview know that he was under pressure and
    threatened?  Why don't you and those people believe that Xanana was
    telling what he felt and the truth?  What reason do you have not to
    believe the intervie?  Were you and those Portuguese officials there at
    the interview?  I don't see why people can say that all these were lies
    without being there.


							       Sincerely Yours

							       W. Sapardan

This is a purely logical exercise for me: if Xanana was truly interested in
spreading the word that the guerrillas should surrender, why not free him to
spread the word personally to his people?  Why bother going through the easily
forged method of writing letters?  Or even televised interviews?  (Remember the
televised interviews of the US POWs in Vietname and Iraq?)  Unless, of course,
that Xanana was really not of the surrendering inclination and was "coerced so
severely" that letting his people see him would negate the whole idea that he
had actually wanted to give up of his own free will.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: yeap@alg2.eecs.nwu.edu (Kok-Hoo Yeap)
Subject: Re: Two Malaysian students from Southern Illinois U. killed in fire
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:22:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.113845.15255@news.ysu.edu> af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan) writes:
>What do y'all say if each of us were to make a pledge of, say,
>$10 as a donation to the victims of the fire??? 
>

I called the church that collect donations and talked to the church
secretary. She said the donations are coming in.
You can send your donations to:

        Our Saviour Lutheran Church
        700 S. University Ave
        Carbondale
        Illinois 62901
        USA

Make your check payable to the church and put "fire relieve victim" on it.

I asked about making donations to a particular victim but she said
"they haven't come across that".
So I guess if you like to donate to a particular person,
you can put that on your check but its no sure how they will handle it.

Once again, two Malaysian students killed in the fire were:

>>	Cheng Teck Wong, 23, of Johor, Malaysia , senior majoring EE.
>>	Mazlina Ab Wahid, 28, of Malaysia, freshman in vocational
>>		 education studies.

-- 
/  Gary (Kok-Hoo) Yeap       yeap@eecs.nwu.edu  \
\  Department of EECS, Northwestern University  /
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth  Australia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec7.202058.120295@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, wns1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (WANTYA NAJADI SAPARDAN) writes:
>     How do you suppose to confirm that Xanana was under pressure?  How does
>     somebody outside that interview know that he was under pressure and
>     threatened?  Why don't you and those people believe that Xanana was
>     telling what he felt and the truth?  What reason do you have not to
>     believe the intervie?  Were you and those Portuguese officials there at
>     the interview?  I don't see why people can say that all these were lies
>     without being there.

Read it and weep...  Summary from a story appearing on Australian Associated
Press' NewsTrack wire service.

Newspaper reports indicate that Xanana Gusmao has told a Portugese journalist
that he has not given up the struggle for East Timor, despite public state-
ments to the contrary.

The journalist, working for Portugal's "The Age" newspaper, held the interview
with Gusmao in heavily censored conditions.  At one point in the interview,
when both Gusmao and the journalist were out of earshot of the Indonesian
officials, Gusmao whispered to the journalist that he had not given up the
fight for East Timorese independence.

Meanwhile, the Portugese and Indonesian representatives at the UN are meeting
with UN secretary general Dr Boutros Boutros-Ghali to discuss the future of
East Timor.

Rod Swift
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: How come...
Reply-To: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:52:58 GMT

Tai, one question.

	I have an anon id. How can I abuse it? I tried to post to sca,
but my famous id came up.

	And, how exactly, or how far can one manipulate this id,
like, can I leave my foot track in the middle of Sahara, but
nobody knows it was me?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: suwandi@fraser.sfu.ca (Julian Suwandi)
Subject: Re: this is a biggggg test .... hit 'n' please
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:00:01 GMT

Why are tests being posted here? And repeatedly done so?! 
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