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Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: WSD: "Get your hands off me!"
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:47:55 EST
Followup-To: rec.folk-dancing
 <1iutrcINN5ku@life.ai.mit.edu> <Jan.12.11.35.22.1993.13723@net.bio.net>
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Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <Jan.12.11.35.22.1993.13723@net.bio.net>, charleen@net.bio.net
(Charleen Bunjiovianna) wrote:
> Many of the people we get in our classes are husband and wife.  These
> couples are hardly ever matched in skill level and learning ability,
> though.  I don't know what happens when the wife is better at it than
> the husband, but all too often when the husband is the fast learner,
> he ends up pushing his wife around.

Charleen-

The problem you described about couples in class is extremely common.  In
the beginner class I went through, the caller split everyone up just for
that reason.  You had a different partner every tip during the class.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: dpepper@thumper.bellcore.com (David J. Pepper)
Subject: Madison Country Dancers (NJ) Schedule -- Jan - Apr, 1993
Reply-To: dpepper@thumper.bellcore.com (David J. Pepper)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Distribution: nj,ny,md,del,pa,conn,mass,ri
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 00:16:04 GMT

Now on Sunday Afternoon
-----------------------
		Madison Country Dancers
	A Non-Profit Organization Run by Volunteers

		EXPERIENCED CONTRA DANCE

	      Sponsored by The Folk Project
	   Last Sunday of the Month 2:30 - 5:30pm
		Madison Community House
	      25 Cook Avenue, Madison, NJ

Dances for people who love to dance and already know the 
basic steps such as contra corners, hey for four, and
California twirl.  Some dances may not be taught.

A partner is not necessary	        Bring Clean Dance Shoes
	Admission $6.00 includes refreshments

Jan 31		Donna Hunt		Four Potato Stew
			Paula Entin-Bayer, Kris Lamb, Mark Schaffer, Jim West

Feb 28		Eric Hollman		Stokoe, Polansky, Deane
			Helen Stokoe, Roger Polansky, Susie Deane

Mar 28		Paul Rosenberg		Teenage Dinosaurs
			David Luarance, Scott Marshall, Richard Smith

Apr 18		Kathryn Wedderburn	Please & Thankyou String Band
			Bill Wallach, Will Welling, Dave Howard
   Note:  Not last Sunday, Neffa on April 23-25


Directions:  From NJ-TPK (Exit 14) or GSP (Exit 142) take Route 78 West
to Route 24 West to Route 124 West (exit 7B-A, Chatham).  Continue through 
Chatham to the center of Madison.  Right onto Central Avenue and first left 
onto Cook Avenue.  Madison Community House is on the left side of street.  
Park in the adjacent municipal lot or on the street.

Directions:  From 287 (exit 31) Route 124 East (Exit 35) to the center of 
Madison.  Left onto Central Ave.  First left onto Cook Avenue.

By Train:  Path to Hoboken.  Morristown line to Madison.  Walk West
1/2 block; Right onto Central Ave., 2 blocks then Left onto Cook Ave.
Dance is 1/2 block on left.

Information:  (908) 271-0459
	Folk Phone (201) 822-1313

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	David J. Pepper        dpepper@bellcore.com
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: dmcnamar@netcom.com (Dennis McMamara)
Subject: Re: BACDS: Is there an e-mail directory of BACDS members?
Organization: Composer's WorkBench
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:31:44 GMT

In article <goodill_eric-070193160701@ericg.cpd.tandem.com> goodill_eric@tandem.com (Eric Goodill) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Just curious if e-mail addresses have been collected for BACDS members.  If
>not perhaps we should.
>
>Cheers, Eric
>Eric Goodill, goodill_eric@tandem.com, Tandem Computers, Cupertino, Calif.

Sounds good to me. Also is there an email directory for the San
Francisco Folk Music Club. If not, there should be.

-- 
Dennis McNamara dmcnamar@netcom.com
Purveyor of Fine Software: Composer's WorkBench
From: mmcohen@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael M Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: Shoes, etc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:08:50 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Just visiting the group, but you may want to try
ballroom dance shoes. These have soft suede soles
which you keep clean with a wire brush.

Men's ballroom shoes come in a variety of stiffnesses -
reletively stiff for "modern" dances like foxtrot,
and somewhat more flexible for latin dances like rumba.
I especially like the "GIBSON ULTRALIGHT" from
Ballroom Dance Supply in San Jose CA. Stiffer
than a jazz shoe (has steel shank) but fit like a glove - and no blisters
wearing all 1st night after purchase...

For a very lightweight shoe I like FREED jazz shoes. 

You can get a catalog from BDS by writing or calling:
BDS, 372 Bird Ave, San Jose CA 95126, 408-293-1727.

Or you can get a slightly old catalog by anonymous FTP
from fuzzy.ucsc.edu which is file pub/a85.Z
switch to binary mode "bin", get a85.Z, uncompress a85

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From: jsivier@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jonathon Sivier )
Subject: Re: Footwear for dancing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:43:43 GMT

   A friend of mine, whom I shall refer to as the Goddess of Dance (GOD), has
similar problems with no arch support in her dance shoes.  GOD has tried many
different shoes (I think her collection is second only to Imelda's).  One
thing that GOD had great success with was to take a pair of athletic shoes,
which have plenty of support, to a shoe repair shop and have them bond on a
leather sole.  This sole was originally hard, smooth leather, but she had them
grind it to roughen it up and give it a suede like texture.

   My personal solution so far has been to have more than one pair of dance
shoes.  By switching shoes during the course of a long dance I can reduce the
amount of rubbing any part of my foot gets.  I also switch to athletic shoes
later in the evening for their support and cushioning.  This requires a slightly
modified dance style since they don't slide as well, but it seems to work for
me.

   Good luck and good dancing.

Jonathan

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From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: New cleats for Time pedals??
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:35:38 GMT

spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
>In one of the bicycling mags, there was a snippet on new, improved cleats for
>Time pedals. I think they are supposed to be rounded on both sides to make
>it easier to lock into the pedal. 
>Are they any better than the original ones? Does Performance or Nashbar carry
>them?

I think they're worth the $10 or so they cost.  They are lighter and easier
to get in and out of.  I know Colorado Cyclist has them but I don't know
if the other places do.
-Terry
-- 
-Terry
From: o.zechlin@link-njd.nbg.sub.org (Oliver Zechlin)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Sorry, *Blades again
Reply-To: o.zechlin@link-njd.nbg.sub.org
Date: 03 Jan 93 10:58:00 MET
Distribution: world
Organization: Mailboxsystem LINK-NJD, FRG
X-Version: ZerUU V6.43a

Sorry, but this is the closest forum I can get over here, so I have to bother
you guys...  I was wondering how much AeroBlades from Rollerblades (tm) cost
over at Gods Great Country (the AeroBlades with the long wheelbase, I guess
black boot w/ purple wheels).  Are there any similar blades around?  Would be
great if you could include a faxnumber of the store you saw 'em at.  And yeah
I also am looking for the faxnumber of Rollerblade (tm) itself.  Many thanx!

Oliver

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From: kc@core.rose.hp.com (Kurt Chan)
Subject: Re: Avocet 50 rear wheel speed/cadence system
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:45:09 GMT
Organization: HP, Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

| It doesn't seem like it's really that easy.  The flange on a rear hub
| is larger so the magnet ring is not going attach with the 3 or 4 little
| barbed prongs that hold it onto a front hub.  The ring may not even
| slide over the rear hub body between dustcap and flange at all.  

Right.  Avocet says to cut off the prongs and use tie-wraps.  Problem with
this is it's a semi-permanent setup.

| Even
| if this works there will be some dificulty attaching the pickup so that
| it is close enough to the ring.  

| I'm sure it would be possible to modify the standard
| setup for rear wheel use, but I don't think you're going to switch back
| and forth that easily.

Yeah - if I did this I would just leave the rear wheel pickup on all the
time, like the Cateye Micro (both cadence and rear wheel pickup mount
on the left chainstay).

Good luck,
Kurt.
From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Advice on Light Parts
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:42:49 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I found out the weight (manufacturer's) of the Dirt Research post (thanks
Nick) and we appear to have a new winner (if you don't need the absolute
lightest)

  Name            Weight  Cost    Cost/Weight      Cost/grams saved
  EXTREEM Ti      170     $104.99         0.62         .62
  Lightspeed Ti   183     $140.00         0.77         .89
  Dean Ti 360mm   195     $175.00         0.90        1.21
  Syncros Ti      207     $150.00         0.72        1.13
  MRC Ti          216     $170.00         0.79        1.37
  Fast Feather    220     $71.99          0.33         .60
->Dirt Research   235     $30.00          0.13         .29 <----- !!!
  Kingsbury Ti    241     $100.00         0.41        1.01
  Sakae T C O     290     $22.64          0.08         .45
  Control Post    290     $39.88          0.14         .80
  XC PRO 300mm    290     $19.99          0.07         .40
  XT 330          296     $33.00          0.11         .75
  Kalloy 300mm    340     $13.95          0.04

I've seen this post at a local store for $22 which makes it even better.
Now if my Kingsberry Al post would just bend a little more or break,
I could pick one up and test it out.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ljohnson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Lance Johnson)
Subject: "Schwinns are rad"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:57:30 GMT


I guess that my non-flattering remarks concerning Schwinns really
offended some cyclists across the net.  Here is an example:

I said:


I always wondered who would actually buy a Paramount. I also used to wonder
who bought Trek forks. It seems that there is a tribe of folks in kansas
that are buying both :)


There are some good reasons why Schwinn (not Schwing) is filing for
bankruptcy protection. Building over-priced/lower quality bicycles is just one
them. 



And one typical, college educated cyclist replied:


>From ma155fau@sdcc14.UCSD.EDU Tue Jan  5 16:08:07 1993
>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 14:07:58 PST
>From: ma155fau@sdcc14.UCSD.EDU (Boo Radley)
>To: ljohnson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
>Subject: Re: DS2 replacements
>Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
>In-Reply-To: <C0969G.91o@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
>References: <1993Jan2.122216.46037@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
>Organization: University of California, San Diego
>
>Fuck you, you pig.
>
>Schwinns are rad.
>
>j
>


I now have much more respect for schwinns and those who buy them.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.tech
From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
Subject: Re: Nashbar US-13 Rims (27x1)
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 00:10:28 GMT

>I'm preparing to build a set of wheels for my Schwinn World and I'm
>contemplating using the Nashbar US-13 27x1's.  They're supposed to be
>hard anodized with brushed sidewalls for braking and offset spoke
>holes.  As I've never done this before (though am convinced by Jobst
>and others that I should be capable of building a good pair of wheels)
>I am not sure of the quality of these rims.  My choices seem quite
>limited as I must rebuild a set of 27 inch wheels.  Opinions?
>Alternatives?  Feel free to email me offline if this subject has
>been beaten to death in recent weeks.  Thanks!

I bought one of these rims recently (about 400 miles ago) and am fairly
pleased, I'll be ordering a couple more soon.  The hard anodized finish
started out something like the `no-stick' on a frying pan but roughened
up a bit after a few miles.

The rims have only single eyelets so they may not be quite as strong as
a Mavic MA-2 but they are cheaper and easier to get.  (If anyone knows
where to buy MA-2s via mail-order please let me know.)  The US-13 is a
bit heavier than the MA-2.  The seam on the Nashbar rim is a little
smoother than the one on the MA-2 I have.

Lacing your first wheel is not hard, just time consuming.  If you are
careful you'll do a good job.

I followed the instructions in Bicycling Magazine's Complete Guide to
Bicycle Maintenance And Repair.  I found their description to be much
better than that given in The Bicycle Wheel.

-- 
Richard Foulk		richard@pegasus.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jjprior@athena.mit.edu (Jack Prior)
Subject: Avocet 50 rear wheel speed/cadence system
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:17:24 GMT

Does Avocet make a wiring setup that allows cadence measurement and
rear wheel speed measurement?  If so, who carries it?  I have a
cadence attachment but it will only work if the front wheel is
spinning and thus doesn't work on a trainer.

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: border@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Ryan A. Border)
Subject: Looking for Handlebars
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:23:53 GMT

Does anybody know of handlebars that:

1) Have a "track" bend on the tops
2) "Anatomic" flats would be nice- but not necessary...
3) "Drop-in" like extensions at the ends
4) Are made of steel (or are at least *very* stiff)
5) Come in ~40cm width

Does anybody custom bend bars?

Thanks-
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.tech
From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
Subject: Re: Nashbar US-13 Rims (27x1)
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 15:59:07 GMT

>>>I'm preparing to build a set of wheels for my Schwinn World and I'm
>>>contemplating using the Nashbar US-13 27x1's.  They're supposed to be
>>
>>The rims have only single eyelets so they may not be quite as strong as
>>a Mavic MA-2 but they are cheaper and easier to get.  (If anyone knows
>
>I would use the UC13 rims instead.  Both are 19mm wide (exterior) but the 
>UC rims are double wall with eyeletts.  You would have a rim that is 100g
>lighter, perhaps a bit more durable (due to eyelets).  The nice thing about
>the US13 was that there was an unanodized version (S13) that was $12.85
>instead of $19.75.

My Nashbar catalog says the UC13's are only available in 700c ... so
they won't do at all, unfortunately.

-- 
Richard Foulk		richard@pegasus.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Dura-Ace SPD price.
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:04:37 GMT

webel@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>I have seen the pedals in a local shop for $250, so mail ordering them 
>would be a savings.  Of course, I am also told that you need shimano 
>shoes to use the pedals, which I am sure are very expensive as well.
>Baird
>webel@guvax.georgetown.edu

There is supposed to be a whole slew of shoes coming out this year
that are SPD-compatible.  According to Bicycle Retailer SPD is
expected to be a big deal this year.      
-Terry
-- 
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: Re: Do bike stores mark up or mark down?
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo / Object Technology International
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:13:11 GMT
X-Bytes: 608

In article <C0KAqo.Ezt@cs.uiuc.edu> tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:

 >I'm not a bike dealer but I play one on TV.

Ok, so the first time I saw a post like this I thought "hey, there's a
guy who plays a XXX on TV on the net. Cool...".  The second time (XXX
was presumably different) I thought "hey, there's a guy who plays a
XXX on TV on the net. Deja vu?  Dream?  Who's in the shower?".

Now I think I'm catching on.  You don't actually play anything on TV
right?

ja ne, |m

p.s.  you will of course excuse the world wide broadcast of my mental
revelations.

--
ato de, |m        -- gad!  winter!
From: rlk@underprize.think.com (Robert Krawitz)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: clipless pedals-RFC
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:09:42
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge Mass., USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: underprize.think.com

I'm looking for a set of clipless pedals for my new road bike
(Specialized Allez Sport).  What I'm looking for:

1) Ability to walk, maybe play volleyball even (so I don't need to carry
panniers to go play volleyball).

2) Have some free rotation, so I don't bust my knees (I have a toe out,
which can be corrected for in the cleat, but I still think it's safer to
have rotation).

3) Have shoes size 14 (US) or 49 (European), or at worst very large 48.

The two choices I've seen that fit (1) are the Time TWT and Shimano SPD
pedals.  The Time seems to be better in (2), but the range of shoes is
very limited.  While the Time Start shoe fits, it doesn't look like a
very good shoe (all vinyl outer among other things), and it seems to be
the only shoe that takes Time TWT cleats.  Given this, I worry whether
Time is going to carry TWT for any length of time, or simply license
SPD.

I've heard rumors that Shimano has new SPD cleats that do have rotation,
but I haven't seen them.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Do bike stores mark up or mark down?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:44:04 GMT

Do most bicycle stores sell complete name-brand bicycles for more or less than
the manufacturer's suggested price? I've read some reviews of bicycles that
seem good, and the prices listed in the articles are in my range. Should I
expect the bikestore prices to be above or below the reported prices? Will
there be a lot of variation in price from sore to store?

Also, how good an idea is it to mailorder complete bicycles? Are the prices
low enough to offset shipping and handling charges?


Thanks in advance for any help-
Matt
From: dps@delhi.esd.sgi.com (D.P. Suresh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: used light
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:00:35 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


I am interested in buying used lighting equipment for
bicycles.

Sellers can:
	Email: dps@esd.sgi.com
	Call: (415) 949 5303 (R)
	      (415) 390 4059 (O)

--
Mr. D.P.Suresh
Never try to figure out the sex of a person from the name.
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From: sstrand@u.washington.edu (Stuart E. Strand)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Huffy Revolution comments
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:56:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: 128.sstrand-040193100151
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Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.95.36.218

I am considering buying a Revolution by Huffy from a local warehouse store
for my 13 yr old daughter.  This is a pretty well equipped bike with a
chrome moly frame, shimano 200GS derailleur, sealed bottom bracket.  They
want $200 for it.  Any comments or experiences?

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From: aaron@eecs.nwu.edu (Aaron Feigelson)
Subject: Unicycle, anyone?
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University, Evanston, Il., USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:30:54 GMT


Does anyone know of a supplier of an (inexpensive) unicycle for
an aspiring beginner?  It can be new from the factory or old from
someone's basement.  As long as it works.

aaron

arf@nwu.edu
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From: peter@helix.ObjecTime.on.ca (Peter Epstein)
Subject: Re: Nashbar US-13 Rims (27x1)
Organization: ObjecTime Limited
Distribution: bnr
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 21:16:19 GMT

Having just built my first set of wheels, Id just like to add that
the better the truing stand, the easier the job.  Also, if you have
some wheels with the same spoke count and lacing pattern (typically
cross 3), then you can just copy the lacing of the existing wheel.
Of course, you still need to determine correct spoke lengths.  I
used butted DT spokes and greased the threads to avoid twisting up
the spokes.  A truly relaxing and enjoyable experience.
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