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From: ntprlr@eskimo.com (NightProwler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: CNE certification question
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:45:40 GMT
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
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reppert@unixpop.ucs.indiana.edu wrote:
: I'm new to this group and I'm sure this has been discussed before, but what
: is the best and/or least expensive way to get CNE certification?  Any
: information would be greatly appreciated. 
: 

Get someone else to pay for it.

I'm not kidding.

The tests alone will set you back $490.  And that's assuming you pass each
test on the first try.  The study guides aren't cheap.  The computer based
tutorials are a rip off.  The courses are a complete racket.  Be prepared to
spend lots of time studying very esoteric commands (LISTDIR?  I've never even
*used* LISTDIR...), and all the possible add-on products (Netware FTAM?  You
gotta be freaking kidding me man...OSI is dead!).

I just failed Advanced System Manager 3.11 today.  For the second time.  I am
so mad I could chew the kneecaps off the nearest Novell representative.  I
studied for three days.  I've been working with 3.11 since 1990.  I'm a member
of the Professional Developers Program.  I've written programs that do
terrible things to the bindery.  I totally nailed the TCP/IP and NFS tests,
and I CAN'T PASS THIS GODDAM TEST!  

It's the last test I have left before I get my CNE, which makes it that much 
worse, y'know?

...so I'm having my company pay to send me to the Adv. Sys. Mgr. class and
just give in to the racket.  Such bullshit.
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From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: ODINSUP?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:26:19 -0500
Organization: Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis

In article <93028.155323P85025@BARILVM.BITNET>, Doron Shikmoni <P85025@BARILVM.BITNET> writes:
> I am trying to activate ODINSUP and am having only - ahm - limited
> luck.
>
> I am a former user of normal NDIS stack. What I did is to remove
> the MAC driver for my (SMC) Ethernet NIC, and change the bindings
> to it in PROTOCOL.INI to point at the ODI MLID name. I boot, then
> load:
>
> LSL
> SMC8000
> ODINSUP
> NETBIND
>
> All seems to be coming up fine. I even, just for the heck of it (and
> to test things, of course..), left DIS_PKT in the NDIS stack. I ran
> CUTCP on to of this tall pile - and it worked.
>
> That is the good news.
>
> The bad news is, that my "real" NDIS client, which is IBM's PC/3270
> running on top of LAN Support Program V1.23, just won't play ball.
> It does work (via DXME0MOD) with the older setup; it just won't connect
> in the new setup. Says something about connection failure (COMM 686).
>[rest deleted]

Protocol stacks that use an ODI driver typically register the packet types
they want to see with the LSL.  For example, IPXODI will ask to see IPX
packets.  A TCP/IP stack might want to see only IP, ARP, and RARP packets.
Protocol stacks that do this are called "bound protocol stacks."

Most "shim" interfaces don't register for particular packet types.  There
are two special ways to register a protocol stack with the LSL in ODI:

o   Prescan protocol stacks, or "show me ALL the packets and then pass
    them on to anyone else who wants them."  This is handy for implementing
    something like protocol analyzer application without disturbing the
    other protocol stacks that are running on the machine.

o   Default protocol stacks, or "give me all the packets that nobody else
    wants."  This is the ideal way to register a shim, because overhead in
    the shim is avoided if the packet is one for a protocol that is already
    being handled by a native ODI stack.

However, the LSL allows only one application or shim to register for each
of these special types for a given logical board.  Thus if you are already
running one shim (DIS_PKT), trying to load another (ODINSUP) will fail.

One way around the problem is to stack the shims.  For example, load a packet
driver that talks directly to your interface, then PDETHER to provide ODI
support, and then ODINSUP to provide NDIS support.  It's ugly, but it works.
If it was my machine I'd try to eliminate the need for one or more shims
by using software that talks directly to your favorite kind of driver.
--
James Harvey    IUPUI/OIT Technical Support/VMS & Networks
harvey@iupui.edu  uucp:iugate!harvey  bitnet:harvey@indyvax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: seedrom@netcom.com (Kenneth Lew)
Subject: How does Novell map Macintosh filenames to MS-DOS filenames?
Summary: Novell Mac->MS-DOS filename mapping?
Keywords: Macintosh, MS-DOS, filename, mapping
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:34:06 GMT

I use a Macintosh to create image files for processing by a PC.
Without having to rename the Macintosh up to 31 character filenames
to the MS-DOS's more restrictive 8.3 filename.filetype scheme, does
anyone know how Novell does it for the LAN? I want to just move a
selected subset of images from a photo archive into a Macintosh folder,
generate a report correlating Macintosh image filenames along with a
description of the selected images, and then use that report on the
PC connected to the same LAN as the Macintosh to process those images.
Anyone have an answer? Is there any documentation on how Novell does it?
Thanks in advance. I'm just a LAN novice, so don't flame me.
						seedrom@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: steve.herman%express@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Steve Herman)
Subject: Disappearing Macintosh Icons
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: BCSS
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:09:29 GMT

We have been having the following problem when running applications from a
Novell server. Actually we have a very large network with several Novell
servers and the problem occurs on most of them.

It seems that when the users run various commercial applications which
reside on a Novell file server (primarily the Microsoft Office suite) and
store their documents locally on their hard drive the documents
periodically, and fairly consistently lose their application specific
icons.

The documents on the users hard drive then begin displaying the generic
document icon (rather than the document icon associated with the
application).  Double-clicking the document gives the error which states
"the application which created the document could not be found".  The user
*IS* connected to the Novell file server when these errors occur.

The only fix we've found for the situation is to clear the initted bit on
the application and then double-click the application to cause it to be
re-read into the server's desktop database.  We've also tried completely
re-building the desktop on the servers.
Both of these fixes are only temporary and the problem seems to re-occur
after only a few days.

Does anyone know what could be causing this problem and if so is there a
more permanent fix?

----------------------------------------------------
- Steve Herman - BCSS
- Boeing Computer Support Services
- Huntsville, AL
----------------------------------------------------
From: vanwalle@ocpt.ccur.com (Van Wallendael)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: LWP 4.0/Win3.1/FILEXPRS.EXE
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:36:58 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation, Oceanport NJ
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


Hi,
     I would appreciate some assistance with Lan Workplace for DOS and 
Windows.  I keep getting FILEXPRS error messages when trying to run the
FILEXPRS.EXE program:   "FILEXPRS caused a general protection failure
in module FILEXPRS.EXE at 0010:019f."  The only option I have is to 
close the module.  
     I have tried getting an updated WLIBSOCK.DLL and the TCPIP driver,
but this did not seem to help.  Is there something wrong with the 
FILEXPRS program and are there updates to it without purchasing the
update to 4.1?  Also, does 4.1 fix the problems once and for all?

     Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: maniac@unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Subject: Re: Netware drivers For DOS 6.0  Where do I get it???
Organization: Too many
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:01:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.042244.3625@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mal2n@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Matt Leonard) writes:
>I am looking for ipx, netx etc... for DOS 6.0.
>Where is an ftp site where I can get this?
>Please specify directory also...
>	I tried ftp.novell.com  but couldn't find it.	
>
>	Thanks in advance!
>Please mail responses to my account.

IIf you're talking DR Dos 6.0, then you use your normal IPX, and the
NETX from the last DRDOS install disk (ViewMax).  If you're talking 
about a beta (pre-beta?) MS Dos 6.0, I have no idea.


-- 
Eric J. Schwertfeger, maniac@cs.unlv.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ajay@decster.uta.edu (Ajay Barve-273-3023.  System Administrator)
Subject: Alternative to PCONSOLE.EXE
Summary: New program to replace PCONSOLE
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:52:20 GMT

Are you tired of having to navigate through multiple levels of menus
when you just want to delete jobs, hold jobs, change the order of jobs and
move jobs from one queue to another.  This last feature is not available in
PCONSOLE.  

I Have written a simple utility that does all of this without having to 
navigate through pconsole.  Since this is the first version of the utility
I am willing to let people have it for free.  All I ask is you try it out
and give me some feedback as to its usefulness, bugs etc.

Finally please note that this is the first version so it may contain bugs.
I have tested it and its safe, it wont crash your server, or delete the wrong job etc.

To get it use anonymous ftp to login to acctlabv.uta.edu (129.107.16.11) and
download /pub/pcon.exe.

Have Fun.

Ajay Barve
Center for Accounitng Software Evaluation.
University of Texas at Arlington.
Arlington, Texas 76019.

P.S.  USE OF THIS SOFTWARE IS AT YOUR OWN RISK.  I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE
      IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG.  ALL I CAN SAY IS IT WORKS ON MY LAN.   
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kolar@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Kolar)
Subject: Re: Token Ring to 10BASET connection
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:47:29 GMT

	Is there any such ethernet controller that can use existing
IBM T1 token ring cabling? I would be suprised to find no such card...
Any information greatly appreciated.

-J
From: jacksond@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Richard Jackson (Bmg))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: CNE Justification
Summary: Wanting examples of CNE School justification
Keywords: CNE, NOVELL,
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:21:05 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

That time of year to give the powers that be a education wish list for 1993
(as always right on top of things)...I'm wishing to get examples of CNE school
cost justification.  Reason why with 9 diverse sites, fiber backbone project
in works, we need at least 2 people CNE trained.  Mail directly to me or post 
to this group.

Thanks in advance.


--
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   US Snail - PO Box 1216, Bloomington, IN 47402-1216 (812) 339-1444 x244
   Keep life simple..........................judge not and get on with it 
   All standard disclaimers apply, my employer wouldn't have it otherwise
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jh@fortec.tuwien.ac.at (Johann Haider)
Subject: Re: Netware nlm which gets time from bsd time server
Keywords: nlm
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:35:26 GMT

In <740@oscar.UUCP> sparker@oscar.UUCP (Sean Parker) writes:


>Is anyone out there aware of a nlm which allows a Netware client to set/sync
>its clock from a BSD Time Server?

Sean was so kind to mail the anwers he got to me, but he had lost the
message about the rdate NLM. As his suggestion to query archie failed
I ask the person who sent the answer to Sean, to post it to this group
too. I think the answer should go to the FAQ too.

I already know about the Charon solution

>Please respond via e-mail since I do not get the opportunity to read this
>newsgroup frequently.

Johann

--
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Institute of Electronics            University of Technology Vienna, Austria
Email: jh@fortec.tuwien.ac.at		             phone:  +431 58801 3967
From: villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: <Netware 3.11 and Windows 3.1
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:26:26 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: xanth.cs.orst.edu

In article <8940@news.duke.edu> mnugent@bio3.acpub.duke.edu (Mark A. Nugent) writes:
>	I need help using Novell Netware 3.11 with Windows 3.1.  I am the
>supervisor for several mathematics department labs which currently do
>not use Windows at all.  I would like to set things up as follows:

>	Students need to be able to login and logout within Windows.  Being

From everything I have read you are supposed to login and logout while you are
in DOS and NOT running Windows.  You login then run Windows.  Exit Windows then
Logout.  Now there maybe some third party utilities which allow you to login
and logout but I don't know of any.  Maybe someone else could tell you of some.

Later,
-- 
John Villalovos
Certified Netware Engineer
villalj@xanth.cs.orst.edu
(503) 753-7883
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: rdb1@herahera.cc.bellcore.com (bond,robert d)
Subject: IPX Frame Type Change
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: us
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:23:32 GMT
Keywords: IPX


We are about to convert the ethernet frame type that is
being used for the IPX protocol from the Novell default
of 802.3 to Ethernet-II.  I would like confirmation that
the following procedure is sufficient for changing the
ODI-based workstation's frame type configuration.

1.  In the Link Driver section of the workstation's "net.cfg"
    file, the Protocol section should be changed from

        Protocol IPX 0 Ethernet_802.3
 
                to read
 
        Protocol IPX 8137 Ethernet_II

2. "Frame Ethernet_II" must also be added to the Link Driver section
    of the workstation's ethernet card.

After making a similar change on the file server, the workstation can be
rebooted and very thing should work fine, right?  Are there any other
details that need attending to?

Thanks in Advance

Rob Bond
Bellcore
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: anneklin@acs.bu.edu (Patricia Anne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: What is this problem?
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:09:42 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

We've had an NE3200 in our server for about four weeks, and we were
wondering if anyone had any idea just what the number next to "Tx
queued because adapter Txing" indicates...

For us at least, it usually starts off as a high %age of the total
packets sent/received (roughtly 10%) and gradually accumulates slower
and slower to the point where it's about 1% of the total
transmissions.

In short, is this something we should worry about, or is it just
harmless information that we shouldn't concern us?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jjlink@netcom.com (John J. Link)
Subject: Re: Arcserve "Losing" tape Drive
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:45:17 GMT

You mention the Chyenne BBS for Arcserve updates. Could you send
me the phone number of the BBS. We havent gotten any updates since
we bought Arcserve.

Thanks
-- 
 /=========================================================\
 | John J. Link        Internet: JJLINK@NETCOM.COM         |
 | Lan Manager                   JJLINK@LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM  |
 | Lockheed                                                |
 | Sunnyvale, California, USA    72470.3300@COMPUSERVE.COM |
 \=========================================================/
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: my own suggestion: compress error logs...
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:31:10 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <jon.van.oast.23.0@med.umich.edu> jon.van.oast@med.umich.edu (UWI001) writes:
>this is a rather trivial point, but i thought i would bring it up while
>netware 4.0 was still in beta test and this MIGHT be able to get
>"sneaked" into the grand program (hint hint, novell!).
>
>today, the sys: volume on one of our servers ran out of space.  no big
>deal, but for a few minutes all the users couldnt print, etc.  turns out
>the error log file was 14 MEGABYTES large!  granted, we know now to be
>fairly liberal with our space given to the sys: volume, but we didnt know
>that back when we gen'ed this server.  anyway, i zipped away the error
>log file (being the anal-retentive type i am), then cleared it.  the 14
>meg free got things back on track.
>
>now, the amazing thing is that when i zipped the file, it save 92% !!!!
>of the space.  it ended up just over 1 Mb in size.  so, my two cents worth
>of suggestion for future reference is that maybe the error log be stored
>in a compressed format -- after all, when you have EVERY little activity
>being logged to it (like all the ATPS stuff) it can grow PRETTY fast!
>
>yeah, we should check and clear our error log regularily. yeah, we should
>give at least X meg to sys: volumes.  yeah, we should . . .  but we have
>10 servers and people forget and this was old.  and, the point is, it 
>happened, as things will.    
>
>just a thought... thanks for your time&trouble!  -jon

Hi,

Actually we have a mechanism that allows you to turn those error messages off
(as far as AppleTalk is concerned).  At the server, you can LOAD ATCON -L and
you will get an extra menu labled LOGGING BITS.  In this section you can set
which messages get put into your error log.  You will have to make some 
decisions when using this feature as you will be losing an informational 
resource when you turn off the error messages.  But the feature is useful.  Give
it a try.

Hope this helps...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: UNIXWARE...phone numbers..EDU rep?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:06:32 GMT

Can anyone from UNIVEL/NOVELL/USL post a contact for getting educational
pricing on UNIXWARE?

Thanks.. 
--
Ken Lam               \ (803)-884-7615 (H) \ "People who don't believe in
Systems Administrator   \ 803)-792-4969 (W)  \ miracles, don't belong in the
UNIX**Netware**Multimedia \ (803)-792-5446 (F) \ business."
Integrated Technical Systems\ lam@jove.cofc.edu  \ "Of course it works!" 
MultiMedia Works & Video Productions ======= Teaching the world in better ways
From: s_curtis@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Steve Curtis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Help with restrictions
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:55:43 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <1993Jan22.121636.22603@gdr.bath.ac.uk> ccsjaas@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Julian Sims) writes:
>Could someone please send me a quick answer to this one.  I want to actually
>restrict your average user on a 3.11 Network from access to running things like
>pconsole and syscon and similar files.  What is the easiest method of providing
>them with "bad command or filename" when they attempt this, obviously still
>keeping it available for supervisor and trusted users.
>
>I have not got into much file/directory masking in the past.

Simply restrict the file permissions in syscon so that the files are only
availible to supervisor and/or certain groups in sys:public

Check the Big red books for more details.
When a normal user runs syscon, they can't do any damage with it anyway !?

Steve.
-- 
Email: (JANET) : s_curtis@uwe.csd            
       (Inet)  : s_curtis@csd.uwe.ac.uk
From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: What happend to ftp.novell.com??
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:34:19 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1993Jan21.205829.28124@novell.com>, cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch) writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.140948.254@indyvax.iupui.edu> harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.192023.27292@cs.yale.edu>, mikef@som.yale.edu (Michael Fanara) writes:
>>> In article <Jan20.180249.29860@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> pruett@CS.ColoState.EDU (J. L. Pruett) writes:
>>>>Anyone know what happened to ftp.novell.com??
>>>
>>> Try ns.Novell.com (137.65.4.1). There was an anouncement about this the
>>> other day.
>>cd to the ~/netwire/novlib directory and all the usual stuff is there.
> 
> 	You can also still get to the machine that ftp.novell.com used
> 	to point to.  It's real name is ftp.is.sandy.novell.com, and
> 	ftp.novell.com was just an alias to it.
> 
> 	Chris
> ---
> Chris Ranch
> Internetworking Products Division
> Novell, Inc.  San Jose, CA
> (408)473-8667  cranch@novell.com
> I may work for Novell, but I don't speak for them...
-----------
	Small correction Chris, from out here in Utah. Ftp.novell.com is
indeed an alias name at the moment but not for ftp.is.sandy.novell.com.
The latter was a NW 3.11 server, but ftp.novell.com is a Unix box. Sandy
is becoming deceased at any moment now (old admin, new admin). A fallback
server is netlab2.usu.edu which maintains a daily image of ftp.novell.com
NetWire files and has plenty of bandwidth. Netlab2 is a NW 3.11 machine.
Yes I know, the musical names/machines game is confusing.
	Joe D.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: Novell-> unix printers
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:55:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.154322.19875@sci34hub.sci.com> gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
|In article <1993Jan21.171406.17078@mas.uucp> smarc@mas.uucp (Marc Siegel) writes:
|>What (commercial) options exist to solve the following problem:
|
|>Novell 3.11 network users need to print to 7 printers on an SCO
|>unix machine. Network will be 10BaseT. Apparently Charon will handle
|>this, however, I would prefer a commercially supported solution.
|
|I believe Crnwyr Software will provide commercial support for Charon.
           ^^^^^^
|Try russ@crnwyr.com to verify this; email is cheap.  :-)
     ^^^^^^^^^^^

That should be "Crynwr" and "nelson@crynwr" respectively. Oops.
(Sorry 'bout that, Russ!)


-- 
Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
Windows NT documentation: "Command to change password    CTL-ALT-DEL"
From: ch_s464@king.ac.uk (Peter Spearman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Macintosh VAP on 2.2 does it work?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:37:14 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Has anybody successfully installed the Macintosh VAP using Netware 2.2?
The installation goes fine until boot-up. When some of the resource and Apple Talk VAPS are NOT successfully loaded.
Any help will be much appreciated. 
I can give more details to any response.
thanks
Pete Spearman
ap_s427@crystal.kingston.ac.uk