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From: lgy@landau.phys.washington.edu (Laurence Yaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Problems booting miniroot on R4K Indigo
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:36:27 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
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olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:

>In <lgy.727572456@landau> lgy@landau.phys.washington.edu (Laurence Yaffe) writes:
>|     I have not been able to get the miniroot booted on my new R4000 Indigo.
>| I am attempting to install the system on an external 3rd party disk
>| (HP C2247 1Gb) which worked fine on a demo Indigo, using a local CDrom drive.

	[details omitted]

>Probably SCSI bus errors or timeouts (the latter more likely, given
>the timing).  This prevents root from being mounted, hence the final
>failure.

>I'd recommend running a full exercise with fx (wr-cmp).  I'll
>bet you'll see some errors.  Cabling, termination, and drive
>firmware problems are the likely causes, in that order.

>Since the drive worked on an Indigo, I'd definitely suspect cabling
>or termination.

Once again, Dave is correct.  Actually, it wasn't cabling or termination,
it was both cabling and termination problems!  An old cable that worked
fine with SCSI-1 drives just didn't cut it with a new SCSI-2 drive.

Thanks for the help
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Laurence G. Yaffe		Internet: lgy@newton.phys.washington.edu
University of Washington	Bitnet:   yaffe@uwaphast.bitnet
From: ccoprrm@prism.gatech.EDU (Robert E. Minsk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Shell script problem
Summary: rm not removing directories
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:52:40 GMT
Organization: Information Technology - High Performace Computing


  I have a shell script that creates a temporary directory writes some files
to the directory then does a rm -rf "directory".  The files are removed but
the directory remains.  If I try to do a rmdir in the shell script it 
return "Directory not empty".  Parts of the shell script is listed below.

#!/bin/sh
SLATEDIR=/usr/tmp/slate.$$
trap "rm -rf $SLATEDIR" 0 1 2 3 15
mkdir $SLATEDIR
"write some stuff in $SLATEDIR"
exit 0

  The files are removed but not the directory.  So I tried changing the trap to
trap "rm -rf $SLATEDIR;rmdir $SLATEDIR" 0 1 2 3 15, but then it returns
Directory not empty.  Is this a problem with my shell script or with 4.0.5a?
-- 
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ARPA: ccoprrm@prism.gatech.edu	| Fridays at 10pm WREK Atlanta 91.1 |
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: troff and nroff
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:30:38 GMT

In article <vcakma4@twilight.wpd.sgi.com>, story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story) writes:

- I hope that we are doing a good job prioritizing the needs.  If you
- really consider having DWB for free a top priority over new compilers,
- graphics, hardware, O/S fixes, etc., please let us know.  And please
- do continue to tell us what you want, in any event.  We do listen!

There is awf (the amazingly workable formatter) on many archive sites.
It is an nroff equivalent written in awk. It is good enough for most 
manual pages, although the newer GNU and X man pages sometimes through up
some missing macros. Is very easy to install - no compilation required,
but you need awk to use it. It also uses a lot of processing time (a minute
or so for a 20 page man page on my 4D/25). It might be useful to have an
inst'able image, but it is not really necessary. It may also be useful to
the tar set forr awk on sgi.com - it is ca. 30 kbytes.

There is also groff, and that is efficient and a fully acceptable surrogate
for nroff, but is not small, nor is it easy to build for many people.
It would be useful to have an inst'able image for groff on sgi.com, 
similar to that for ghost. Maybe some kind soul would oblige ....

                                  Thomas
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*** This is the operative statement, all previous statements are inoperative.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: pebi@aem.umn.edu (Peter A. Bidian)
Subject: colrm
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:14:44 GMT


Hi!

I have a quick question. Maybe that hasn't to do with the IRIS itself
but it occurs on an Iris, so maybe someone can help. 

On a Sun I have a command colrm, that allows me to delete the characters
up to a certain position. On the Iris this doesn't work. It says
'Command not found'. Do you know what an equivalent command would be?

The concrete example is:

	set prompt="`hostname|colrm 3`> "

I want to have only the first two characters from the hostname as a prompt.

Thanks,

Peter

PS Please answer by mail!


		                                                               
==========================================================================
Peter Bidian					Internet: pebi@aem.umn.edu
Dept. of Aerospace Eng.				Bitnet:    AE02022@UMNACVX
University of Minnesota				phone:      (612) 625-1346
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From: scotth@oniboshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: SGI FILE FORMAT
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:56:24 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA


>>>>> In article <1993Jan22.145252.17916@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, mbersohn@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (M. Bersohn) writes:

mbersohn>     Does anyone know where I can find a detailed description of the
mbersohn> file format of the SGI image files? This appears to be a closely
mbersohn> guarded secret. Plenty of books will tell you about TIFF, PCX

Ahh, but will they ship source code on your machine?

mbersohn> etc. but the SGI hot line will not divulge the format of
mbersohn> something.rgb. I have full support on my machine but all the
mbersohn> support line could do was point me to some source code examples
mbersohn> in 4Dgifts. With a few weeks time, many of the routines call
mbersohn> each other, I might finally deduce what is the meaning of byte
mbersohn> 0, what is stored at the four byte field beginning at byte 12
mbersohn> etc. etc. It sure would be nice to have an explicit description
mbersohn> so I could begin my real work today!

Just load dev.sw.giftsfull from your inst media, and look in the
directory ~4$difts/ (darn, I removed it to make space, oh well, source
to the imglib utilities and libraries is somewhere under there).

=-=-=-=
--
 Scott Henry <scotth@sgi.com> / Help! My disclaimer is missing!
 Networking Services,        / GIGO *really* means: Garbage in, Gospel Out
 Silicon Graphics, Inc      /
From: beyer@bflsgu.fl.bs.dlr.de (Ralf Beyer DLR)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: DMA transfers between machines
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:12:02 GMT


	| we would like to DMA transfer data from a SGI machine to another
	| machine (DEC LSI11). Both machines are connected by Ethernet and
	| have Ethernet controllers.
	| On the LSI11 there is no room for the overhead required by TCP/IP
	| or UDP. The LSI11 initiates a DMA request (memory address, block
	| size etc.) and expects the SGI machine to listen and to respond
	| with a DMA transfer.
	
	As stated, it sounds impossible.  You could certainly write
	some simple protocol and try it out, using raw sockets on the
	SGI side (see man 7 raw), but then you still have to add
	all kinds of error checking and retry stuff if you want it at
	all reliable...
	
Thanks, Dave, for the hint. This could be a way to do it.

In fact, both machines are single user and not connected to
any net. They are, however, connected via Ethernet controllers
on both machines and the Ethernet cable. On the LSI-11 side
we are controlling the Ethernet controller directly by
accessing its registers and buffer and using its instruction
set. We are looking now for an opportunity to do the same on
the SGI machine. The 4D35 has controllers ec0 and ENP-10 (one
of each). They need not be configured for TCP/IP or other
protocols, they are available only for the low level protocol
connection to the LSI-11.

Is there a handbook available for the ec0 and ENP-10
controllers with information on registers, buffers and the
instruction set ?

By the way, the whole set-up is going to fly in a test jet
aircraft ...

Thanks for any help and best regards.

Ralf Beyer

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Ralf Beyer
German Aerospace Research Establishment (DLR), Institute for Flight
Guidance, Flughafen, D-3300 Braunschweig, Fed. Rep. of Germany
Internet: beyer@bflsgu.fl.bs.dlr.de (EARN/BITNET: fl17@dlrvmbs.bitnet) 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: scotty@eos-prog.whoi.edu (Scott J. McCue)
Subject: Recommendations for scheduler/reminder program?
Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 17:07:09 GMT

  I've been missing some appointments, and I'd like to have a program that will
rudely interrupt what I'm doing and tell me to get there. I've seen this on
Suns under OpenLook, and like it. The stuff that comes with IRIX as
well as the programs listed in the archive list don't seem to have this feature.
Will anyone point me to one?

  Another query: Now that larc is no longer an archive site, the one depository
of which I was aware that has Tex3.14 is gone. Is there another that isn't on the
list but welcomes plunderers?


-- 
Scott McCue
Dept of Chemistry                     <no favorite quotation yet>
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
scotty@eos.whoi.edu
From: grege@chopin.asd.sgi.com (Greg Estes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: video in & out - crimson
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:08:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: chopin.asd.sgi.com

In article <1993Jan21.154310.6741@uc.msc.edu>, wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris) writes:
|> In article <1jl834INNasn@fido.asd.sgi.com>, grege@chopin.asd.sgi.com (Greg Estes) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> * VideoLab
|> |> 	Real-time video in/out/through. RGB/YUV/D1. Video in a window,
|> |> 	video effects, video output, scan conversion, alpha blending,
|> |> 	transcoding, etc. Also does some neat-o effects like taking an
|> |> 	incoming, say Betacam, signal and pixel replicating it up to
|> |> 	HDTV resolution without losing frames. Does *not*, however, have
|> |> 	an encoder or decoder built-in, so get your own Faroudja for 
|> |> 	NTSC/PAL :-)
|> |>   Works on Crimson/VGX or Crimson/VGXT only
|> 
|> Does the VideoLab have its own frame buffer?  

Yes, two of them. An input buffer and an output buffer.

Can it be used to send a
|> series of image files out its D1 port like the VideoFramer?  

Yes.

Or must
|> this be done using its scan conversion capabilities?  

No, but you could if you wanted to.

Does it include
|> an onboard animation controller like the Video Framer?

No, but the V-LAN library is included so it's "software-ready"
to hook up to an external RS-232 VLAN box.

Greg Estes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: yaron@aristo.tau.ac.il (Yaron Zabary)
Subject: Re: scsi disk install proble
Organization: Tel-Aviv University Computation Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:52:06 GMT

alan kennedy (alan.kennedy@canrem.com) wrote:
> I had to rebuild one of our machines from scratch this week, and
> everything is fine but one thing.

> I reinstalled a SCSI drive in both the mtab and fstab;

> fstab and mtab additions were;
> /dev/dsk/dks0d4s7   /usr8   efs   rw,raw=/dev/rdsk/dks0d4s7  0  0

> The drive seems to work fine, but when I launched the SystemChest and ran
> System Manager, Disktools, I got the following warning;

> "These following entries are invalid or inconsistent:"
> "File Sys: /dev/dsk/dks0d4s7  Mount dir: /usr8  File: /etc/mtab"

> Did I do something wrong with the mtab? Like I said the drive seems to be
> operation just fine. I have looked at data that was there prior to the
> rebuild, moved stuff, etc. and no problems. I didn't get that warning
> before, so I must have screwed something up.


  You are not supposed to put anything in /etc/mtab by yourself. mount(1m)
should deal with it. You should only update /etc/fstab . Your fstab entry
seems fine to me.

--

-- Yaron.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: huad@acf3.NYU.EDU (Hua Deng)
Subject: dump need more than one tapes
Organization: New York University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:38:00 GMT

	I am using "dump 0cbsdf 256 6000 31000 /dev/rmt/tps0d2nsv filesystem"
	to backup one file system. But I need 1.7 tapes to hold the files.
	Could someone tell me which option I should give beside the above.
	Thanks,

	Hua
	ACF NYU
From: mannel@vaquero.csd.sgi.com (Bill Mannel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Logical volumes as swap
Keywords: lv logical-volumes efs
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:08:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: vaquero.csd.sgi.com

In <1993Jan25.225415.13319@eos.arc.nasa.gov> ssmith@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Stephen Smith) writes:

>Hi,
>	Has anyone used logical volumes for swap under IRIX 4.05x?
>We've an interest in combining two smaller devices into one large swap
>area.

>-Thanks,
>	-Steve
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>ssmith@eos.arc.nasa.gov                  (415) 604-1381  
>NASA Ames Research Center                Moffett Field, Ca. 94035


	what you want to do is use the swap -a command to add additional swap spaces,
	and make them known to the O/S.

	logical volumes are intended for EFS - that is, UNIX, filesystems only. 

--
Bill Mannel
Technical Instructor/Course Developer - Customer Education
Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
Phone : 415-390-1867             Internet : mannel@csd.sgi.com
From: jparker@aurora.msfc.nasa.gov (John V. Parker (NASA/MSFC/ES44)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Abekas Control Panel program
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:54:23 GMT

I tried making this post over the weekend, but my mailer decided that it was
a good day to die.  I don't think this made it, but if it did, my apologies
for the repeat:
_____________________________________________________________________________
I've noticed that the Abekas Control Panel software provided in
4Dgifts/iristools bombs under 4.0.X.  It worked great under 3.x, and it
compiles without any (serious) problems under 4.0.X.  However, when you try
to run it, you get an "Illegal instruction" message and then it dumps core.
I assume this is related to the move to X-Windows in 4.0, but before I dig
into it, has anyone out there already made the necessary hacks?  If the
collective answer is "No" and I finally get around to fixing it, would anyone
be interested in the updated version? (Dave? Vernon? Calvin? Sam? Anybody?)
Thanks in advance for any (helpful) info!
+------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| John V. Parker                     | Phone:  (205) 544-1526              |
| NASA-Marshall Space Flight Center  |                                     |
| Earth Science and Applications Div.| e-mail: jparker@pcjvp.msfc.nasa.gov |
| ES44/Information Systems Branch    |         jparker@nasamail.nasa.gov   |
| MSFC, AL 35812                     |         storm::parker (NSI/SPAN)    |
+------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
From: efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu (Evelyn Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Showcase text capabilities (they need improvement)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:55 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I'm using Showcase 2.0.3, and I'm not very happy with the text 
capabilities it offers.  Why can't the fonts be antialiased?
Why can't you choose ANY font size (instead of selecting from 
only a few set sizes)?  Please, please tell me this will be
fixed soon....  

Evelyn 
efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu
From: dbailey@wk49.nas.nasa.gov (David H. Bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Inquiry on new high-end products from SGI
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:06:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California

Today in the San Jose Mercury News was an article about some new
products from SGI.  Included was mention of some high-end
"supercomputer" products, including one that is to sell for nearly $1
million.  Could someone post either the "official" news release from
SGI or otherwise give the details (number of processors, individual
processor characteristics, memory, peak and sustained performance,
etc.)?

David H. Bailey
dbailey@nas.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: amg8408@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Avijit  Moitra)
Subject: How to know how much memory needed to run executable(a.out)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:46:07 GMT

I am interested to know how much memory (core) will be needed to run
my executable.  It does not run on a 16MB m/c but runs on a 32-64 MB
m/c.  It must be between 16-32 MB.  How can I know exactly howmuch
memory is needed ?  
I tried the size command but don't know what it means.  On CRAY-2 this
command tells in somany words, which is to be specified while submitting
the job.  Anyway, the values the CRAY-2 returns to "size" command is 
different from that of my SGI PI 4D25G m/c.  Can some one help me on that.
Thanks in advance. Send an e-mail please.
From: mfolenta@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Michael Folenta (FSA) <mfolenta>)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Mailbox program
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:38:34 GMT
Reply-To: mfolenta@pica.army.mil
Organization: US Army Armament, Research, & Development Center


In article , carlson@support.newport.sgi.com (Chris Carlson) writes:
> In schuman@kaweah.esd.sgi.com (Aaron Schuman) writes:
> 
> >Bob P>  whenever I exit mail, causing the mailbox to zip back to its
> >Bob P>  closed picture, I get: "mailbox: Error 0" in my console window.
> 
> >Yeah, it bothered me too.  Now I launch mailbox with standard error
> >redirected to /dev/null.  I'm a happy man again.
> 
> 
> That's strange.  I've been using mailbox on all the releases and never get
> a mailbox error.  Is there something you're doing differently?
> 
> I run mailbox from .login with the following command:
> 
> 	    /usr/sbin/mailbox -b -L34 -M120 -S $USER -m "Mail -n"
> 	
> Hope this helps.


     OK, for what it's worth, I also irregularly get the  "mailbox: Error 0" 
 in my console window.

     And it's all running on a 4D35TG with IRIX 4.0.5 and is fired up from
 my ".sgisession" using the following:

/usr/sbin/mailbox -L 41 -M 74 -S MIKE -m "/usr/sbin/winterm -f
-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--20-140-100-100-m-110-iso8859-1 -t MikeMail  -c
/usr/sbin/Mail"

     What is really happening here SGI?  Not one of the biggies as bugs go, but why
 is it happening?

-- 
       ***** These are my opinions.  Get your own. :-) *****
      Michael Folenta          | U.S. Army ARDEC
   Future Weapons Branch       | Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000
  email mfolenta@pica.army.mil | (201) 724-3880  [AV 880-3880]
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: Re: Severe speed hit when windows clip polygons
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:17:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <1993Jan20.190707.28040@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, mancus@carla.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
> 
>   We are presently attempted to develop a real-time application
> that must run at a 30 Hz graphical update rate.  We are finding
> that a serious slowdown occurs when the displayed models are too
> large to fit in the display window.  As soon as ANY clipping occurs,
> we lose as much as 10 Hz!  (Test case: 3000 polygon flat-shaded
> sphere, no tmeshes, monocolored, 340VGX, no accumulation buffer,
> window is 1024x768.  The final product will run on a RealityEngine,
> CPU unspecified.)
>   What can we do to avoid this speed hit?  Our simulation will
> have to show polygons that are cut by the window borders, but
> we just can't live with this kind of penalty.  Are there GL
> calls we are omitting?
> 
> -- 
> | Keith Mancus    <mancus@cheers.jsc.nasa.gov>                           |
> |                 N5WVR                                                  |
> | "Money is never *mere*.  It separates the feasible                     |
> |    from the infeasible."                                               |

   Clipping does require work. It can slow you down. However, the Reality
Engine was engineered to handle this problem. You should benchmark your
app on a RealityEngine before you get too worried. Secondly, there is
some work afoot which allows spheres to be drawn extremely quickly on
a RealityEngine. You might try e-mailing srf@sgi.com with questions about
spheres on RealityEngine.

john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248
                   M/S 7U-553 Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division
                   2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: jody@shell.com (Jody Winston)
Subject: ImageVision and g++
Organization: Shell Development Company, Bellaire Research Center, Houston, TX
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:03:01 GMT

Gordon>	....ermmm, isn't the language specification for C++ fairly strict? If I were to take pieces of C code from my SGI and attempt to compile them elsewhere, I'd like to think that I wouldn't experience too much trouble :-) (also,for example, I can compile GL programs with gcc)

Gordon>	Incidentally, the trouble is in the linking stage. With the options, -traditional-cpp and -x c++, all is OK until link, when I get :

The problem is that C++ does NOT define how name mangling should be
done, how structures are laid out in memory, nor the lifespan of
temporary objects.  Therefore you can't mix libraries generated by
different C++ compilers.

--
Joseph Winston		jody@shell.com
...!{sun,psuvax1,bcm,rice,decwrl,cs.utexas.edu}!shell!jody
Consultant to:
Shell Development Company, Bellaire Research Center
P.O. Box 481, Room 4205, Houston, TX 77001	(Voice: 713 245-7574)
From: blean@rwb.esd.sgi.com (Bob Blean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: Re: 24-bit Motif visual?
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:04:15 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics

In article <uoeeoas@zola.esd.sgi.com>, joel@jellotrees.esd.sgi.com (Joel Tesler) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1993Jan10.191012.6213@bitrot.in-berlin.de>, thomas@bitrot.in-berlin.de writes:
|> > Maybe I am just too dense to see the obvious, but how can I have a Motif
|> > application come up with a 24-bit shell? I need a 24-bit DrawingArea, and
|> > I can't use a GLX widget because that would be nonportable.
|> > 
|> 
|> install the Motif overlay demos and then look at
|> /usr/src/X11/motif/overlay_demos/README.  While it concentrates on
|> overlays, what it says applies to all non-default visuals.  
|> 
|> Joel Tesler
|> joel@sgi.com
|> 415-390-3048

Also:
	* Pay attention to the README that will be installed when you follow
	  Joel's advice.  It is quite useful for understanding dealing with
	  non-standard visulas in general from Xt, not just Motif.

	* see Section 4.8 "Programming with Nondefault Visuals" in the
	  IRIX/Motif Programming Notes pamphlet.