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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:50:00 PST
From:         THOMPSON@UCRVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Roadside America
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

I haven't seen it mentioned on this list, so here goes:  if you want
to find really interesting and often odd places to visit in the US,
get a copy of ROADSIDE AMERICA, of which a new edition has just been
published.  It has almost every tourist attraction or trap in the
country, with a geographical index so you can be sure not to miss
any.  It has theme parks, pageants, religious shows, the first and
biggest of everything, the places with the worst taste, and all
the most extravagant and bizarre places to visit, including my
personal fave, House on the Rock in Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, it doesn't cover Canada, so except for Head Smashed
In Buffalo Jump, I have no suggestions up there.

Jim Thompson
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:01:25 +1100
From:         tmne@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: London after Christmas - any ideas?
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              <TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
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              14 Dec 92 12:17:25 -0500.
              <9212150502.AA18296@archsci.arch.su.EDU.AU>

> My wife and I will spend 10 days in London after Christmas.  We
> need advice on things to do there from 28 Dec through 05 Jan.

> It will be our third trip there - but the first one in the dead of
> winter.  We've done most of the standard tourist things (St Paul's,
> the Tower, Westminster Abby, Harrods) but maybe someone can sugggest
> something we would never get from guide books.

> We'll be staying at the Regent Marriott on King Henry Road and using
> the Swiss Cottage tube stop.  I know that's quite a distance from
> the action but we didn't have a choice.  Are there any good tea
> rooms, pubs, resturants around there?  Any places of interest
> nearby - besides the zoo?

I have two friends just back from London in the office with me as I
write. They suggest the Japanese Noodle Shop called Wagamama's at 4
Stretham Street off Bloomsbury Street WC1A 1JB.

I suggest that from Swiss Cottage you can get a 268 bus (called The
Hopper) to Hampstead where there are lots of lovely cafes and
restaurants. It is also a really nice place to walk around as the houses
are very pretty and there are lovely pubs. You are also next to
Hampstead Heath. If it is snowing you can watch the locals go crazy
tabogganing down the hills that they fly kites on in summer.

> Should we try to get tickets to "Phantom"?  What else?  Should we
> risk a late night visit to a "disco" in Soho?

I have been advised by my aforementioned friends that they got
threathened with a beating in a night club in Soho. Perhaps you should
go in a large group.

 -- Tmne
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Tmne Sperling                      Voice: +61-2-692 4031
Key Centre of Design Quality       Fax:   +61-2-692 3031
University of Sydney               Internet: tmne@archsci.arch.su.oz.au
NSW 2006 Australia                 Time: GMT + 10 hours
From: MOHD@PSY.GLASGOW.AC.UK
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Subject: Boston and Monteal
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:29:19 GMT
Organization: Psychology, Glasgow University
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Hi,
   I'm travelling to the States and Canada for 3 weeks in 4 days time.
   After family commitments in Ny and Toronto, I plan to spend 10
   days in Montreal and Boston. The info. I need is firstly how
   to spend New Years Eve in Montreal, best area to be in, nightlife
   etc.Also an area where I can find reasonably priced hotels.
   As for Boston, I also need to find reasonibly priced accomodation,
   so if someone out there can point me in the right direction I'll
   be much obliged.Where are the centres, alternative centres etc.
   Incidentally is somebody from Montreal called a Montrealite.


                        Thanks
                              Asgher(Glasgow,Scotland)
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:45:45 +1100
From:         fays@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Christmas in Oz
Comments: To: TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l


For those people travelling "down under" soon, you need to be
aware that Christmas is not quite the same as "up above".
Here's a version of "Jingle Bells" to give you the flavour
of Christmas in Oz (translation on request!).

Fay
fay@archsci.arch.su.edu.au

--------------------------

JINGLE BELLS
[Aussie version, words by Colin Buchanan, "Hard Times"]

Dashing through the bush
In a rusty Holden ute
Kicking up the dust
Esky in the boot
Kelpie by my side
Singing Christmas songs
It's summertime and I am in
My singlet, shorts and thongs.

     Chorus
     Jingle bells, jingle bells
     Jingle all the way
     Christmas in Australia on a scorching summer's day
     Hey
     Jingle bells, jingle bells
     Christmas time is beaut
     Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden ute

Engine's getting hot,
Dodge the kangaroos
Swaggie climbs aboard
He is welcome too
All the family's there
Sitting by the pool
Christmas day the Aussie way
By the BBQ

Come the afternoon
Grandpa has a doze
The kids and Uncle Bruce
Are swimming in their clothes
The time comes round to go
We take a family snap
Then pack the car and all shoot through
Before the washing up.

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From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma)
Subject: Re: World Travel
Reply-To: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:00:26 GMT


In a previous article, DEVBLGC@TCSTSO.BITNET (Louis Crispino) says:

>What is REC.TRAVEL and can it be accessed via BITNET or TELENET?

    rec.travel is one of many Usenet newsgroups.  The easiest way to read
it is if it is carried on the computer system you use.  There are other
ways to get to it for reading and posting, but they are not as convenient.
I assume you mean telnet for "TELENET" above?  Computers connected to both
the Internet and BITNET can carry Usenet news, as well as many other
computers.  All that must happen is that each group somehow get passed to
your computer.  How to subscribe to it will depend on your system and your
newsreader.
-- 
Hey, I didn't write this, some guy must have figured out my password.
Or else I forgot to sign off and some clown took over.  Yeah, that's it.
	Barry Bouwsma,     ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU [Internet]
                  Friends don't let friends read anything I post.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:49:17 EST
From:         ST801804@BROWNVM.BITNET
Subject:      Teaching in: Alaska or Hawaii
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l


This may be a bit off the wall, but anyone out there involved with
public education in Hawaii or Alaska?  I'm graduating in physics in May,
and I'm looking to teach in either of those states uncertified.  Anyone
know if it's possible? I hear they need science/math teachers in rural
parts of both states, but I'm not sure if they're desparate enough to
hire uncertified, unexperienced teachers.  I've written away, but all I
get is generic new teacher stuff, which assumes you are certified.

Thanks,
steve
From: ACARUSO@KENTVM.BITNET (Anthony Caruso)
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Subject: San Diego
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:33:29 GMT
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Hello Everyone:

I am planning a visit to the San Diego area during the first week
of January and I would like some information:

(1) Can anyone recommend accomodations in La Jolla--something
    near, though not necessarily on the beach?  Someone suggested
    the Colonial Inn--any of you ever stayed there?

(2) What are some "MUST SEE" things to do in the SD area (besides
    the SD Zoo?

(3)  What are the rules/what type of insurance for driving a rental
     can into Mexico...any recommendations for what to do/see in
     around TJ?


Thanks in advance...

Tony
ACARUSO@KENTVM
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:28:00 EDT
From:         HORVATH@DAEMON.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      Re: London after Christmas - any ideas?
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Forgot to mention, that Harrod's has an after-Christmas sale that's
unbelievable.  Even the Queen used to go (pre-opening hours, of course) before
the IRA got antsy.  Check BTA--it's supposed to be THE event of the year in
Knightsbridge.

Hilde
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 92 13:49:00 +0200
From:         TOMY_ACE@EGAUCACS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: EGYPT
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Tmne wrote,
>........however she is worried about whether all areas are safe for her to
>visit.

I think that Tmne stirred up a very important question. I would like to
stress on the point that it is perfectly safe for foreigners to travel
around here in Egypt. Generally the crime rate here in Egypt is much lower
than many other countries.

Perhaps someone will wonder about terrorism ,as there had been recently
a couple of attacks from fundamentalists against tourists. To this I would
answer that of more than two million tourists every year when two such sad
incidents happen it is an exception. Anyway after these incidents the public
opinion became very hard against religious fundamentalism and so the govern-
ment took strong measures resulting in the arrest of the vandals involved
in these attacks.

Any way , I think it is of worth to say that the people of the Middle East
by Nature are very hospitable and they usually treat tourists as guests
and hence are always very helpful.

Concerning places to visit in Egypt, there is actually a lot to see ,it
depends on the priorities and the amount of time available . If archelogical
sites and historical places are the primary intention then naturally first comes
Cairo where people can visit the Pyramids and the Sphinx, the step pyramid
of Saqqara , the Egyptian museum and the Salah-el-din Citadel , the old
Bazars in Khan El Khalili and a lot of other museums old churches and mosques.

The south of Egypt is full of archaelogical things that in Luxor alone there
are about one sixth of the world antiques and sites as there are lots of temples
and tombs (including the famous king Tut-Ankh-Amon tomb). As you travel more to
the south along the Nile there are many historical sites untill you come to
Aswan where also you can find a lot of phraonic temples . Further to the south
is the famous temple of AbuSimbel and the lake Nasser the world largest artifi-
cial lake which resulted from the building of the Aswan High dam in the sixties.

There are still lots to say about Egypt as there are more than 2000 Kms of
coast lines where you can visit for water sports and relaxation. Scuba diving
is very popular in the red sea as well as snorkling ,windsurfing etc......

Also wildlife lovers can go to see wildlife in the deserts in several pres-
ervations.

I already think I wrote too much so if anybody needs any clarification don't
hesitate to ask.

Best Regards to Everyone,
Hatem

******************************************************
* Hatem Dowidar            E-Mail:TOMY_ACE@EGAUCACS  *
* The American University In Cairo                   *
* P.O. BOX: 2511 Cairo - EGYPT * Tel: xx 20 2 3600700*
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:21:40 +1100
From:         tmne@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: I need your suggession
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              <TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
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              17 Dec 92 12:54:49 -0600.
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>
> I'm a junior student. I am come from Taiwan.(Taiwan is an island, in south
> of China. In this winter vacation, I have a travel's plan. I prepare about
> 1500 U.S. dollars and 7-10 days to play. I hope I have a good time. Can you
> suggest some place ,I want to tour.  Thank you very much .


You could see if there are any package deals to Fiji or Bali or southern
Thailand. There you can lie on the beach and relax to your heart's
content. Perhaps you could afford something all inclusive like Club Med,
Bali, where you dont have to think about food, sports equipment, meeting
people etc. Really that's all I can think of that's vaguely in the
region. Have a nice holiday!

 -- Tmne
_______________________________________________________________________

Tmne Sperling                      Voice: +61-2-692 4031
Key Centre of Design Quality       Fax:   +61-2-692 3031
University of Sydney               Internet: tmne@archsci.arch.su.oz.au
NSW 2006 Australia                 Time: GMT + 10 hours
From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l
Subject: Re: London after Christmas - any ideas?
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:36:30 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

David E. Miles (DEMILE01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) wrote:
: Database Analyst (305 HSC-B)
: Phone: (502) 588-8781
: 
: Dear Travel-lers,
: 
: My wife and I will spend 10 days in London after Christmas.  We
: need advice on things to do there from 28 Dec through 05 Jan.
: 
: We'll be staying at the Regent Marriott on King Henry Road and using
: the Swiss Cottage tube stop.  I know that's quite a distance from
: the action but we didn't have a choice.  Are there any good tea
: rooms, pubs, resturants around there?  Any places of interest
: nearby - besides the zoo?
: 

There is a big tourist trade around Canary Warf at the moment. Trips
up to the top of the buildings. It might be worth a look. And you
get to ride on the Docklands railway!

How about taking a trip out of town to see some really nice places like
Oxford, Cambridge or Shakespear's Startford. Coach tours are available
and these give you a very different (and better IMO) view of Britain.

Our heritage is our biggest asset, there are many stately homes
and castles which are worth a visit.

What about a trip to Brighton, or Hastings? They are only a train ride
away.

: We think we'll welcome in the New Year in Trafalger Sguare.  Is that
: asking for trouble or will it be a great experience?  (We are 50-
: something.)
: 

Trafalgar Square will be absolutely packed. If that's ok with you, then
no problem. It will be very well policed, and there is rarely any trouble,
but as I said, it will be packed. Also, go early as they shut off the square
when it is too packed I think.

: Will everything be closed on New Years Day and Sunday?  Even
: Highgate Cemetary and the zoo?
: 
: Will the Philharmonic be performing?  Will there be any special
: choral and/or organ "concerts" at any of the cathedrals?
: Should we try to get tickets to "Phantom"?  What else?  Should we
: risk a late night visit to a "disco" in Soho?
: 

I doubt very much that you will get tickets for West End shows, they are
normally booked up well in advance.
Dunno about the rest of the stuff.

[stuff deleted]
: David
: 
: David E. Miles             | Bitnet:   demile01@ulkuvm
: University of Louisville   | Internet: demile01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
: Louisville, Kentucky 40292 | Phone:    (502) 588-8781


Guy.

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| E-MAIL: G.PICKERING@uk.ac.bham | University of Birmingham,               |
| Tel: (021) 414 4340            | Edgbaston, Birmingham. B15 2TT.         |
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 13:52:00 CST
From:         Louis Crispino <DEVBLGC@TCSTSO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: area specialist listing
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Nancy,
     You can add me to the list for New Orleans, So. Louisiana area.
(I may be able to help with other areas of the Gulf Coast, but I
 havn't traveled much in Texas)

Thanks
Louis Crispino
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:04:00 N
From:         Wolfi <KNECHTEL@DULRUU51.BITNET>
Subject:      Caribbean
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l


Hi travellers!

I will be in the Caribbean from the 1.1.1993 up to the 15.1.1993. I am
interested in any informations especially from Antigua and St. Lucia.

Thanks in advance

Wolfgang




     +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
     |     Wolfgang Knechtel             Phone: +49 0731-502-3015             |
     |      Abt. Exp. Physik          Internet: KNECHTEL@RZMAIN.RZ.UNI-ULM.DE |
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     |      D-7900 Ulm (Germany)                                              |
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:51:46 +1100
From:         tmne@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: X-mas holiday
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              14 Dec 92 11:55:00 -0600.
              <9212150309.AA16087@archsci.arch.su.EDU.AU>

> Okan - The length of time that the faculty is gone during the semester break
> is entirely dependent on the particular faculty.  I am generally in my office
> daily, whether classes are in session or not, except for the period that I
> will be out of town.  As an example, Our Fall quarter ended, for me, on

> November 23.  I did not come to the office on the 26 or 27 for Thanksgiving,
> didn't come in on Dec. 7, and will not be in from Dec. 19 thru Dec. 28, and
> will miss January 1.  Classes begin January 4.  One the other hand, one of th
e
> other faculty here has not been in to his office but once since the quarter
> ended and I don't expect to see him until the week of December 28.
(More deleted...)


Forgive me if I missed something, but what has that got to do with
travel. Please try to remember that the Travel List is international,
and also not just limited to Academic institutions. Have a nice break
anyway. :-)
 -- Tmne
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Tmne Sperling                      Voice: +61-2-692 4031
Key Centre of Design Quality       Fax:   +61-2-692 3031
University of Sydney               Internet: tmne@archsci.arch.su.oz.au
NSW 2006 Australia                 Time: GMT + 10 hours
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From:         "ABHINAV TREHAN (TONY)" <ATREHAN@UMKCVAX1.BITNET>
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add
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From:         "Donna Foley (813) 974-4034 S/C 574-4034" <DBEABAK@CFRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Teaching in: Alaska or Hawaii
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l


If you are only interesting in teaching in Alaska or Hawaii try checking
with private schools they do not always require their teachers to be
certified according to the state rules.  Another option but you may not
have a choice of assignments is the Bureau of Indian Affairs.  My cousin
worked for BIA for many years and did not have certification upon
graduation from college.  She had assignments in Arizona, Mississippi, and
Alaska.  The BIA may have changed its rules since my cousin worked for
them.

Donna Foley   dbeabak@cfrvm
Tampa, Florida
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:18:00 MDT
From:         LDENNING@DUCAIR.BITNET
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Since the mainframe will be down tomorrow and I'll be out-of-town all of
next week, I want to wish everyone on the list a Happy Holiday and a
wonderful New Year today.  The conversations have been terrific.
                                Lloyd Dennington
                                University of Denver
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From:         nd26 <Nancy_R_DEUEL@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: San Diego
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Tony writes:

>I am planning a visit to the San Diego area during the first week
>of January and I would like some information:

>(3)  What are the rules/what type of insurance for driving a rental
>     can into Mexico...any recommendations for what to do/see in
>     around TJ?

My recommendation is:
Don't drive. My friends tell me numerous horror stories about being stopped
by Tijuana cops for basically no reason other than to extort "ticket" money.
The return lines for cars at the border are ALWAYS at the very least an hour
wait to re-enter the US. Instead,
take the famous Tijuana Trolley, local taxis, and some good walking shoes.
To be blunt: For
the most part, Tijuana is a pit and you probably won't want to stay for more
than a few hours. There's lots of merchandise for the gringos--Mexican
blankets and Kahlua are probably the best buys, unless you're into Crying
Elvis On Velvet.

Go south and get away from the border to see the real Mexico.

Nancy
nd26@umail.umd.edu

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:21:23 PST
Reply-To:     "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: TAN: Pat's Printer question

re; the postscript SIMM comment from Vlad, I think Jeff was saying that Single
Inline Memory Modules are what they are. There's no such thing as a "postscript"
SIMM that is designed strictly to hold Postscript data. Many postscript printers
take SIMMS for memory expansion. Though I've never installed any, to the best of
my knowledge, SIMMs for Postscript printers are pretty universal and will work
with any board that has a compatible slot. For instance, in computers Macs can
take IBM SIMMs.

If this is incorrect, please somebody flame it. (Geof are you listening? :-)).

Tx,

Monte
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Subject: Can PageMaker handle BIG tiff files?
From: bwong@csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 02:29:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

Has anyone had success dealing with large raster (i.e., TIFF) files
under Windows?  All of a sudden, I need to work with 3Mb+ TIFF files
and Ami Pro, Corel Draw and Photofinish are puking their guts out.
(This on a 486 with 20Mb RAM and 200+ Mb free space).

Anyone have any success with the Aldus tools -- Pagemaker, Photostyler
and Freehand?  Any hints or suggestions?

Thanks


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