From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC BROTERHOOD - BOSNIA V/S SOMALIA
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:10:07 GMT

Do you want ALL muslims to die?
By your statement you consider anyone who uses Islam as a rally is
a fundamentalist, or was it a confused statement, contradicting each
other. 
	Iraq was once a non-muslim fundamentalist because it fought against
Iran, Saudi Arabia was a fundamentalist. The whole thing reversed when Iraq
attacked Kuwait.

B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:
: 
: On all culture news groups flag bearer of islam have posted
: messages after messages deploring sitaution in Bosnia.  Who 
: is  helping   in    Bosnia?   Muslims states - NO.   Muslim 
: Fundamentalists all around the world are getting hoarse crying 
: for Bosnia and Islam. Islam is in DANGER once more (it was 
: in Gulf war before) for these fundamentlists. Who are they 
: cursing for not helping - WEST? Why the hell should WEST help 
: these fundamentlists who will go tomorrow planting bombs in 
: western planes and threatening Salman Rushdie and likes

So you call Libya a fundamentalist, as well as Algeria. Why did the army in
algeria suppressed the muslim fundamentalists. Maybe they have changed over-
night.

: with death threats at flimsiest grounds? West is under

Was it really flimsy? Salman, being a  former muslim, should know the
penalty for "mocking Islam" while doing apostasy?
	Do you know the penalty for desertion in an army? Usually death.

: no obligation to help. It SHOULD NOT get involved. But
: west is still helping out of goodwill.

Has it? It has spent 10 billion to "destroy" the industrial capacity of
raq, for what? Was it really oil they are after? Imagine that a lathe is 
considered as a weapon. Soon a PC will be a weapon as well because a Sun
Workstaion was considered as a weapon, and now 486 is just as fast and powerful
as a Sun workstation, the ones that Iraq bought.

: 
: But what is happening to Somalia which has 99 percent
They were starving because the have no crops to harvest. The rival bands
destroy each other's crops. However there is no "ethnic cleansing".
In an "ethnic cleansing", in just one day, the entire population can be killed.

: (compared just 30 percent population in Bosnia) *BLACK* 
: MUSLIMS who are dying by THOUSANDS every day (compared

Bosnians do not need money. They only need weapons. Their leader have said that
so many times. I'm surprised that you are not aware of it. Have you actually
listened to his statements and watch those holocaust films?

: to less than few hundred in a war for which Bosnian themselves
: are equally responsible) with most cruel death caused by 

"equally responsible": for wanting for a separate Nation, it is justifiable
for the entire Muslim population in Pakistan to be exterminated by Indians,
and Pakistan is "equally" responsible for the massacre.
	Or when the south USA wants to be independent, it is justifiable for
the North to "exterminate" the confederates, and the "confederates" are
equally responsible for any atrocities commintted by the "north".

: starvation and hunger.  Who is helping them? Muslim States - NO.

Are you saying that the death of the Indians due to starvation is more cruel
than the massacre of any "muslim".

: It is the west that is helping in Somalia once again
: even though they are under no obligation to do.
: What happended to Islamic "Red Crescent"? Or Black
: muslims are disposable commodity? Why don't these islamic 
: fundamentlists collect money for Somalia which is more in 
: despearte need than any one else on this earth?. Why are
: the islamic governments of IRAN ,Pakistan, Bangladesh who
: are all very vocal on Bosnia supply food and medicine
: to Somalia or Islamic Brotherhood just stops at the gate
: of Africa.
Are you saying that we should ignore Bosnia entirely?
Food is cheap. In fact there is an abundance of food at the capital. Millions
had already been donated to Somalia for food.

: 
: That only tells about total HYPOCRACY Of ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD
: and ISLAMIC Equality.

Do you know what Islam is? If you have studied Islam, do you think the current
muslim governments are Islamic, for being hypocritical? That includes IRAN.

What prevented them from being Islamic? Wasn't it the west, or rather the 
journalist/editors?
Who stopped the Somalian disaster from being publicised? Wasn't it the 
western editors?

Given your shallow view of Islam, the western journalism is responsible for
it. We can say that they are responsible for the atrocities directly or
indirectly. I do not blame the journalists on the field. They have done
marvelous jobs for world peace by just capturing the facts, and not giving
their opinions.

You view is unfortunately common and I suspect even the USA planners are
affected by their own journalism and inbreeding knowledge acquisition.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
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