From: peteo@Ingres.COM (THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I USED TO BE)
Subject: Re:  Drum Corps Alias?
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Date: 9 Nov 92 21:50:34 GMT

Couple of things that I would add, being a SCV alum.

There is an alumni association for SCV.  I think it's headed by George Brown
who may have marched in 1980 (he certainly marched with me in 81).
They have periodic get-togethers as well as having a tailgate party at 
PP and reserving a block of seats at finals.  It's pretty new as alum
associations go (compared to all the others I've read about), been around 
for 2 years, I think.

Secondly, the new director of SCV is Dr Len Kruszecki (sp?) who taught
Star's (?) guard before returning home to lead SCV.  Len was the head
guard instructor for SCV in 81 and probably 80,82, and 83 though I'm
not certain.  That's it..

\\peteo
SCV '81 

In article <17187180@um.cc.umich.edu>, R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu                          writes...
> 
>In an article in alt.drumcorps, Gregory.Dilley@EBay.Sun.COM wrote (Re:  Drum Corps 
>Alias?):
> 
>|>I had no idea the alias existed, and I've been at Sun for 6 years....
> 
>Well, alt.drumcorps has existed for less than a year, so you're excused for your 
>ignorance :-).  I believe that Michael Fath (fath1@husc.harvard.edu) started it late 
>last winter (Correct me if I'm wrong, Michael).
> 
>|>>You SCV alums don't talk to each other :-)?
> 
>|>Don't smile, it's not a funny subject. The Santa Clara Vanguard, though
>|>having fielded a few good corps and some cosmic drumlines is a very
>|>poor alumni oriented organization.
>|> 
>|>Once you've aged out, you're gone. Period.
>|> 
>|>Also, some things happened in 1980 which were not so pleasant.
>|> 
>|>I was in the snare line, and anchored in 1980. I remember.....
> 
>Sorry to hear that SCV discourages strong ties among its alumni.
>Such is not the case with with many other corps.  On a DCI broadcast was a
>segment about the Cavaliers having strong traditions that unite the members
>with the alumni.  Boston Crusaders have a good alumni organization (at least they can 
>play softball well!).  Even my main corps (North Star) has a strong alumni 
>organization with a newsletter, activities, and a reunion every 5 years.
>(It helps to be dead and have only alumni :-).
> 
>I think that your juxtaposition of weak alumni with the unpleasant things that
>happened in 1980 (Great show!  I raved about it as so far ahead of its
>time that no one got it--see later in the article) indicates a common cause--
>Gail Royer's need to strongly control the corps.  A strong alumni group with an active 
>corps may have been a threat to such a director.  Perhaps you and
>other alumni could get together and convince the new director now
>that Royer has retired.
> 
>When Greg read that in an earlier version sent as email, he replied:
> 
>|>Oh yeah? sheesh, it has been awhile. Seems like yesterday to me.
>|> 
>|>Who's directing? Bring me up-to-date!
> 
>I have no clue.  In the late, lamented moderated electronic newletter "Off-the-Line", 
>I started a rumor that Gordon Henderson (UCLA's Marching Band Director) might take 
>over.  This was only flame bait designed to cause trouble for El Gordo, as he had 
>already been booted off SCV's staff.  He is now with Cavies, where he is doing 
>wonderful things for their horn line.  Any other SCV alums or members heard anything? 
>Anyone who is monitoring the drum corps discussions on Prodigy read anything?
> 
>Back to Greg's original posting:
> 
>|>It's been a long long time. Great to talk with somneone from back
>|>then. Practically another lifetime ago for me.
> 
>Good to read from you, even though you're almost a complete stranger.
> 
>I think you'll enjoy reading this newsgroup and its likely successor 
>rec.arts.marching.drumcorps (do your virtual community civic duty and vote!).  I think 
>it's wonderful to log on any time and "talk" corps.  Next to smelling diesel fumes on 
>a muggy summer evening, it's the most satisfying fix for my addiction.
> 
>|>Do you still see shows? Do you teach?
> 
>I don't teach drum corps--I'm too busy with grad school and my family.  I certainly do 
>watch shows.  My children and I have gone to two shows each summer since I've moved to 
>Michigan, the DCM show in Wyandotte and the DCI show in Ypsilanti and I report on both 
>to alt.drumcorps.  This coming summer I'll be at Preview of Champions at Ypsi at the 
>end of July.
> 
>In response to article <1992Oct30.031511.6643@vela.acs.oakland.edu> by Brad Halls, 
>greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM () wrote (in article <1crupaINN33m@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM>):
> 
>|>Brad,
>|>
><snip!>
>|> 
>|>I'm 33 tomorrow, and up to a few years ago, I still have drum corps
>|>dreams about this....
> 
>A belated happy birthday to you, Greg, from someone who also turned 33 this year!  I'm 
>sorry I didn't see this until I printed out your postings and read them today. 
>Otherwise, I'd have sent you this wish earlier.  How did you like having a scary 
>birthday growing up?
> 
>|>...the printer guy <alas..sigh>
> 
>What's this about?
> 
>|>I remember all of '78's opener, 
> 
>So do I, from a spectator's standpoint.  I was in Anaheim Kingsmen during 1978 and 
>thought that "Fanfare for a New Era" was killer.  I never got tired of it, even after 
>hearing it at nearly every show.  Great soprano/mellophone run near the end!
> 
>Speaking of 1978, do you remember Shari Horn?  She was in the guard and was short, 
>with freckles and long wavy black hair.  She was also a mime.  I was her guard 
>instructor at UCLA in 1980.  She took over the job in 1982.
> 
>|>but have inadvertantly blocked out
>|>*all* of 1980's book, including Stone Ground Seven and in fact had not
>|>even remembered it's name until you mentioned it.
>|>
>|>We were jamming with alot of different lines that year and everyone
>|>was sooooo amazed at that solo. Some Scouts took us out into the
>|>corn fields to get wasted and we played and played that damn solo
>|>for them over and over again (actually just me and Jeff, another snare).
> 
>There was a thread on this group about how groundbreaking the 1980 SCV show was and 
>how Gail Royer sabotaged it so that he could wrest creative control from the staff. 
>The story was that he pointed out all the flaws to the judges during critique, leading 
>them to ticks and performance problems they otherwise wouldn't have seen.  Those of us 
>who saw it thought that without Gail's interference it was really a 3rd-5th place 
>show, proving that history judged the 1980 show better than the judges.
> 
>|>Sorry for the long e-mail, hope you don't regret asking!
> 
>Hey, I enjoyed reading every line of it!
> 
>Vince
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