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From: "antares electronics" <antares.electronics@canrem.com>
Subject: associated record '0' lay
Reply-To: "antares electronics" <antares.electronics@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: bit
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:16:25 EST


Stephane,

Neet place to meet! I found this gateway to a Banyan conference. Where
are sending your mail from? I am on CRS in Toronto (a local BBS).

Who's things? Who's the Incognito business? have you ever heard back
from The Bank on the Unix to Vines printing? last I heard they had
passed it onto another department and I haven't heard from since.

Anyways, drop me a mail. I think you can use the address at the bottom
of the message or just use the reply. There are quite a few gateways to
go through!

        Allen Stowe......
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:47:30 -0500
From:         ROB CLARK <RCLARK@DMCS.DND.CA>
Subject:      RE: detecting inbound mail

Original post asked about products to test for inbound mail to
establish a mailserver.

Have you seen BeyondMail for Vines?  It was at the ABUI '92 Boston
expo.  It polls vines mail for new messages, and then extracts them
into the BeyondMail message store.  BeyondMail then acts as a very slick
mail user-interface, but most significantly uses a powerful rule-based
'expert system' to act on, or react to, messages.  For example, it's
pretty easy to generate some rules to act as a mail server.
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From: ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Subject: Technote 204 on how VINE adapts to changes 
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:50:36 GMT

I have found the above technote very useful for understanding the way
VINES works. The technote is dated 1/2/91 software version:4.0, so may 
I know how valid is the information in the technote? Is there a more
upto date version for VINES 5.0?

--
Wong Chee Heng
Systems Programmer
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:41:14 EST
From:         Elliott Coates <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject: re: Help: 4.11(1) -> (5), OS/2 doesn't print !

>We currently use IBM OS/2 2.0 with the service-pack applied.

John, what does the service-pack provide?

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:33:59 GMT
From:         ps@JET.UK
Subject:      re: adaptec 1542B in a Systempro

>Has anyone ever put an Adaptec 1542B in a Systempro to run the tape drive?
> I have this thing working but on boot up with BIOS enabled on the card,
>it sees the card, wants to boot off of SCSI LUN 0,0, then I have to press
>F1 for it to boot VINES off the disk.
>If I leave a backup tape in the tape drive, it will boot up without any
>operator intervention.
>
>If I disable the BIOS on the 1542, the system never boots up.  Is this the
>way it is supposed to work?

Yes, we have and it works!  we ran an Archive Python DAT from it for about two
months while we were waiting to the real Compaq DAT drives to arrive.  And
the tapes cross-read from Adaptec to Compaq!!  isn't DAT wonderful.

You need to make sure that the 1542 BIOS is DISABLED and the 1542 is set to
the Banyan specified defaults (in the manual) so that VINES "detects" the
card at boot time.   You also need to boot your server from cold up to
three times for VINES to find the 1542!

The tape drive should be set for SCSI ID 7 (works for us), why I don't know,
but this was the advice from the Banyan-l group when we set it up.

If you have any further questions fax / phone or E-Mail direct.

Regards

Paul Simmonds
VINES Network Manager

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From: "antares electronics" <antares.electronics@canrem.com>
Subject: printing with ps2/95
Reply-To: "antares electronics" <antares.electronics@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
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Date: 17 Dec 92 22:57:23 EST

Keith,

Could you supply more info on the configuration of the device drivers?
Have you tried to run diagnostics on the PP port? Are you running a VGA
as a console or a dumb mono card with a PP on it?

        Allen....
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From:         P Verheijen ICA <Peter.Verheijen@ICA.RULIMBURG.NL>
Subject:      Laserjet 4

Hello

Does anybody has good experiences with a HP laserjet 4M printer as
a PAP printer in a Vines environment.

Thanks in advance
Peter Verheijen
University of Limburg
The Netherlands
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:51:15 EST
From:         Keith Lally <lally@PMDB.SEP.BNL.GOV>
Subject:      re: Printing with ps2/95

Patrick,

Thanks for your response.  When I make the I/O address 378
I get printer2 as the only choice when defining the print
service.  When I use 3bc I get printer1.  Wang support has
told me that 3bc is the correct address for printer1.  They
have a call in to banyan so maybe they have some ideas.

Keith
From: johns@m.mscs.mu.edu (John Simms)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gutnberg
Subject: Re: Pi to a zillion places
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:52:04 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: m.mscs.mu.edu

In article <1992Dec14.145822.22010@nwnexus.WA.COM> 6sigma@halcyon.com (Six Sigma CASE (Brian L. Matthews)) writes:
>In article <1gi2hmINNei7@spool.mu.edu> johns@m.mscs.mu.edu (John Simms) writes:
>|In article <aldavi01.724232366@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> writes:
>|>A better (but not best) way to store pi (or any long number) would be in
>|>BCD nybbles.  This would reduce the waste from 246/256 to 6/256.
>|6/16 = 96/256
>
>Bzzt.  Next contestant please.  6 * 16 is only part of the waste.  You
>also have to count the ten decimal digits that never appear with the
>6 hex digits in the other nibble, for another 10 * 6 wasted numbers,
>or 156 total.  Another way to look at it is that you're using 100
>different bytes (00-99), so the remaining 156 go unused.
>
>If you want to maximize usage, express pi in base 256.  Then every
>possible value of each byte is used.

Just pointing out that the original poster meant 6/16.  The interesting
observation here is that the amount of "waste" depends on how many digits are
being stored and whether bits, nibbles, bytes, or whatever are being used.
Let's compare BCD to base 256 and store in bytes.  Suppose we want to store
the first x  decimal digits of pi.  Let `up' mean rounding up and `down' mean
rounding down.  Then BCD would require

up(x/2)

bytes, and base 256 would require

down(log_256 {down[pi * 10^(x - 1)]}) + 1

bytes.  The total waste would then be

up(x/2) - [down(log_256 {down[pi * 10^(x - 1)]}) + 1]

bytes, and the relative waste would be

{up(x/2) - [down(log_256 {down[pi * 10^(x - 1)]}) + 1]}/up(x/2)

bytes.  Note that the "waste" for storing 1 to 8 digits is 0.  Also note that
in the limit as x -> oo, the waste goes to

1 - 2 log_256 10,

which is about

17%,

which is not too bad.  And this should be no surprise, because

2 log_256 10 = log_256 100,

which is the "number" of bytes it takes to store two decimal digits, and

2 log_256 10 = log_16 10,

which is the "number" of nibbles it takes to store a decimal digit.

Now, the ratio between the (limiting) relative BCD and ASCII storage wastes is

(1 - log_256 100) / (1 - log_256 10),

which is about

29%,

and this is closer to 96/246 (about 39%) than to 156/246 (about 63%).

Bzzzt.
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Subject:      Tolkien

If any of our Tolkien fans are interested, he credited
the works of William Morris (1834-96) as inspiration.

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:10:10 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Hardcore Users

For you hardcore users out there who are not gone for the holidays:

We have opened up a test version of the etext93 directory which now
contains the latest World Factbook.  Have at it and let me know.

We have acquired 250 million digits of Pi and are thinking about an
assortment of compression and search techniques.  Suggestions are a
sound Christmas present.  We should have the whole billion digits--
from two separate sources--and will need to compare them.  This may
be more fun than one might think.  We also need to determine a best
way to present the file for users (line numbers?  spaces?  how long
should lines be?  etc.)

Keep looking in etext93 for Pi, Surfing the Internet or Anne of the
Island, which along with the Factbook should be our four etexts for
January 1993.  Stay tuned for more requests for volunteers, as this
coming year will require us to get twice as productive once again.

Happy Holidays!

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:28:12 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Christmas Releases

As soon as some of you have downloaded the following files:

magi10.txt              Gift of the Magi
carol10.txt and .zip    Dicken's Christmas Carol
avon10.txt and .zip     Anne of Avonlea

please let me know and I will post an official announcement shortly.

Thank you and Happy Holidays!!


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From: johns@m.mscs.mu.edu (John Simms)
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Subject: Re: Pi to a zillion places
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:34:46 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: m.mscs.mu.edu

In article <aldavi01.724232366@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> writes:
>
>A better (but not best) way to store pi (or any long number) would be in
>BCD nybbles.  This would reduce the waste from 246/256 to 6/256.
>
6/16 = 96/256
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From: xexeo@hplaa02.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo)
Subject: Re:      Pi to a zillion places
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:52:35 GMT

This bring a interesting question: how much compression it will be
possible in a file with pi with zillion places?

My best result with files containing numbers in ASCII where achieved
with zip, although compress was not bad. With a simple C program that
converts ascii to other code (for example, 4 bits numbers), even
better results are achieved.

But, Pi should be (virtually) random and give VERY LOW compression rates...

Does someone has tryed it already?

Cheers,
                    Jerry                       
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From: 6sigma@halcyon.com (Six Sigma CASE (Brian L. Matthews))
Subject: Re: Pi to a zillion places
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:58:22 GMT

In article <1gi2hmINNei7@spool.mu.edu> johns@m.mscs.mu.edu (John Simms) writes:
|In article <aldavi01.724232366@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> writes:
|>A better (but not best) way to store pi (or any long number) would be in
|>BCD nybbles.  This would reduce the waste from 246/256 to 6/256.
|6/16 = 96/256

Bzzt.  Next contestant please.  6 * 16 is only part of the waste.  You
also have to count the ten decimal digits that never appear with the
6 hex digits in the other nibble, for another 10 * 6 wasted numbers,
or 156 total.  Another way to look at it is that you're using 100
different bytes (00-99), so the remaining 156 go unused.

If you want to maximize usage, express pi in base 256.  Then every
possible value of each byte is used.

Of course, depending on how smart your decompressor is, the compressed
file can just be a formula for pi.  An infinite number of digits of pi
compressed to a finite and small number of characters!  Of course
decompression time is a killer :-)

-- 
Brian L. Matthews
blm@6sigma.UUCP
From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
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Subject: Re: Pi to a zillion places
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:39:26 GMT
Reply-To: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
Organization: University of Louisville

In <1992Dec12.005235.22443@dxcern.cern.ch> xexeo@hplaa02.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo) writes:

> This bring a interesting question: how much compression it will be
> possible in a file with pi with zillion places?

> My best result with files containing numbers in ASCII where achieved
> with zip, although compress was not bad. With a simple C program that
> converts ascii to other code (for example, 4 bits numbers), even
> better results are achieved.

> But, Pi should be (virtually) random and give VERY LOW compression rates...

Storing pi in ASCII in its decimal representation is suboptimal in the extreme.
Consider that, except for the single decimal point, only 10 of 256 possible
combinations are being used.  Nearly any well-known compression algorithm will
give at least 50% compression on a random stream of numerals in ASCII.

A better (but not best) way to store pi (or any long number) would be in
BCD nybbles.  This would reduce the waste from 246/256 to 6/256.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:37:52 CST
From:         Jan Piskorski <PSKRSKI%KSUVM@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      need missing shipping lists

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Could someone please send me copies of the following shipping lists:

                  92-0577-P
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I have received the separates for these lists but did not receive the lists
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was several weeks ago.

Please mail the shipping lists to my address below, or fax them to me at
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Thank you.

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Subject:      Thanks

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"Thanks" to those who responded to my query on becoming a
U.N. Documents Depository.  Your information was very helpful.

Jimmie Nell Williams
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        As the new compiler of the "News Notes" column in _Documents to the
People_ (DTTP), I would like to solicit from GOVDOC-L subscribers topical
items to be included in the March 1993 issue.  My submission deadline is
January 15, 1993.  All contributions would be credited.  In doing this, I
wish to provide a forum by which newsworthy documents issues not covered
elsewhere in the DTTP (such as the "Washington Report" column) can be
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        With this posting I am also asking that anyone with ideas or
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Subject:      Fiche conversion formula

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Does anyone know a a formula for converting pieces of microfiche to titles
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is five pieces of microfiche = 1 title, but that seems a little high
for documents.  Is there a formula??

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articles he needs are:

      July 8 92 43...Lacalle Views Results of Privatization Referendum

      July 23 92 28...Lacalle Discusses Privatization Special Policies

Please respond to my Bitnet address below:

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Am missing page 2 for HE 20.9408:Ad 7  A MANUAL ON ADOLESCENTS
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Students here have discovered that the tables on the NTDB can be printed to fit
   an 8.5 x 11 page if the printer is set on "condensed".  Hey, saved us from
having to buy a new printer!

Stuart Hinds
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Univ. of Missouri

-  Kansas City
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