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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: More Eagles Camp news...
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:15:20 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington


Okay... some more news...

Izel Jenkins is signed and practiced today (7/28)... looked a little
rusty, but it will come off.

Otis Smith is close to signing, they expect him to be in camp by
Thursday.

More fights today... attribute half of them to 'Mr. Fight' Brandon
Houston. There was a big one involving the starting D and second unit
offense, but cool heads eventually prevailed.

Sherman and Stacy still looked like slugs racing snails. Joseph and
Brooks appear to be homing in on the jobs. The Eagles 'Power Set' for
short yardage situations appears to be Joseph and Walker. On a side
note, Joseph looks bigger this year than he did last year...
Of course there are still several weeks of camp left...

They practiced that fake field goal to Pitts some more, which is
beginning to worry me some since Ruzek is my FFL kicker in two
different leagues...

Eagles are thinking of trading next years #2 to Chicago for Fridge...
dont be too surprised to see this happen soon. Negotiations are under
way... Chicago wants to dump him, and the Eagles want a another veteran
lineman. I just hope they can keep his weight down when he gets here.

Recievers looked better today... Barnett especially caught a few
beauties over the shoulder... #80 (Bouyer) is definately history...
this guy is worse than our last number 80 (Rod Harris). He is slow,
cant catch the ball, and cuts off all his routes...

Anyone know anything about Titus Dixson?  For a small guy, he looks
really good out there...

Oh well... today was the last live report until mid-August... I have
some travelling today over the next few weeks...
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From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak)
Subject: Re: Elway Slightly Injured (WAS Re: A little Broncos News)
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:59:22 GMT

> = ( Rob Yslas) writes:
>> = ( Steve Novak) writes:
>> > = (David Rex Wood) writes:

>> >First round pick Maddox (QB) still unsigned but says he will be here.

>> They better get him signed.  John Elway became the first player on the
>> Bronco's injury list, ten minutes into the first practice, when he strained a
>> hamstring in a 40 yard sprint.  Not serious this time, but the guy is coming
>> off of elbow surgery, and this is his 10th season.

>Elway should be back in pads today and he is throwing without pain.  Maddox will
>be a rookie and I think would be of little help to the broncos this year.

Usually.  But Steve Pelleur (sp?) is also sore-armed.  For these reasons, 
I think rookie QBs are forced into service due to the amazing amount of injuries 
these days in the NFL.

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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: PICKS - Preseason Week #1
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:59:06 GMT

In article <5102.47.uupcb@cccbbs.UUCP> mark.savey@cccbbs.UUCP (Mark Savey)  writes:
>TO:davewood@cs.colorado.edu
>DR>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
>DR>Subject: PICKS - Preseason Week #1
>DR>Message-ID: <1992Jul27.201232.21476@colorado.edu>
>DR>From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
>DR>Date: 27 Jul 92 20:12:32 GMT
>
>DR>Preseason Week 1
>DR>----------------
>DR> WT  Away              Home
>DR>*------------------------------------------------*
>DR>[ 7] [ ] NY Jets   [x] Philadelphia at Canton, OH
>DR>[ 7] [x] Washington            [ ] Miami at Orlando, FL
>DR>[ 7] [ ] Houston   [x] Dallas at Tokyo, Japan
>DR>[ 7] [ ] Denver                        [x] San Frnacisco
>
>DR>Initials: mes
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>
>Good luck,
>
>Mark E. Savey
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I quote from the rules/signup post:

" NOTE3: Don't post your picks to news and expect me to find them!"

Please resend these to me by mail.

Thanks.


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From: arika@cserver.plexus.COM (Arik Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packer signings
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:42:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: cserver.arika.711895375
Organization: none

As of Wednesday, Packers have signed all draft picks except the
first 2. First round pick Buckly and the Packers are far apart.

The rookies reported to St. Norbert College dorms on Wednesday.
Thurdsday, 2-a-day practices will begin. The first at 8:45, the
second at 2:15 (I think).

The veterans will report to camp this weekend.
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Rison looking at the NBA?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:02:07 GMT

Oh, please.  Andre will be "looking" at the NBA in one of two ways next
season: on TV or through the purchase of a ticket.
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:17:37 -0400 
From: "Steve D. Leu" <sl3w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Browns News - July 20th
	<19491@optima.cs.arizona.edu>

>What a joke!  You've got to be kidding.  HA! The Browns winning the division.
>Right, what a team they have, it is just full of total superstars.  They're
>so good, that last year they managed to lose to the Bengals once and the
>other time needed a last play field goal to win.  And you say that they
>will not lose to Houston this year!  They played their best game of the
>season at Houston last year, way over their heads, and STILL lost.  Houston
>typically loses one home game a year.  And that will be to the BROWNS???
>Give me a break.  I would not be surprised to see the Bengals beat the
>Browns once this year, and I expect the Steelers to beat the Browns at
>least once.  But of course, you give yourself a way out by saying it

From the sounds of this, you seem to want to start an Anti-Browns Club. 
The Browns have been, and always, will be my favorite team in any sport.
 

Most of your points are bias and lack any form of mental normality.  I
am not in over my head about where the Browns will finish next year, yet
I have hopeful optimism that they will make the playoffs.  As for the
Bengals and the Steelers, they pose a threat, but not like they did a
few years back.  The Browns are clearly on their way up, and the Bengals
and Steelers are too with their new coaches.  Houston is still the team
to beat, but slowly, they are aging in a number of positions including
quarterback and in the interior defense. Time will only tell if the
Browns are for real or not.  Predictions are only lies.

GO B R O W N S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  
Steve Leu                          Home: Garrettsville, OH
Internet: sl3w@andrew.cmu.edu         (Pre-College APEA 1992)
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                                     - Peter Cetera
From: mlp@uh.msc.edu (Mark Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:40:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN

In article <92203.103127BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu> <BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu> writes:
I am too a DIEHARD BUC fan.  Have been sice the beginning. I was at Tampa Stadi
um when they beat the Cardinals 17-7 for their first home win ever.  Gary Huff
was quarterbacking.  I remember sitting in the rain watching as they beat the C
heifs 3-0 to clinch the NFC central.  What memories.  I have taken shit about t
hem for years now. Every year a have great hopes.  This year i think they might
 be fulfilled.  I am really excited about Wyche.  I am much happier about him t
han I would have been about Bill 'Boring' Parcells.
Did you all know that this year Vinny is wearing contact lenses  designed to he
lp him see better?  He is colorblind.  Hopefully he will at least play okay thi
s year.

GO BUCS

Barry


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From: deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker)
Subject: Re: Idea for Pool (spreads)
Originator: deanb@pecan10
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:29:57 CDT



About the weighted pick point system:

I have used this system for years, and it works great. I like it.

Max Zener writes:
>    Personally, I dislike the idea.  For one thing, I don't think people have 14 
> different levels of confidence.  For another, when the bye weeks roll around,  
> would people suddenly lose the chance to get a game wirth 14 points?  To       
> prevent that, the non-bye weeks would have a game that is only worth half of   
> the lowest bye week game.

We worked around this by eliminating the lower weights. For example, if a week
only has 12 games, we weighted the picks 14 down to 3. That made 102 points 
possible. Then, for the sake of season standings, we gave everybody 3 points free
just to make all weeks worth the same.

In case you're thinking that would make the week easier, it didn't. It made it
harder (i.e. lower scores). It took away the choice of putting a 1 on a game
that you thought could go either way.

Peter Brown writes:

> The variable that determines success in football pools should be the
> ability to pick the outcome of football games accurately.  Weighted
> systems should not be necessary to determine this.

Using this weighted system is harder than it sounds. Until you've tried it,
I wouldn't knock it.

-Dean
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: McMahon (Re: Eagles Training Camp)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:40:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.175421.9191@encore.com>, kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius) writes:
> joseph.m.dakes writes:
> >Weldon is a project.  Goebel is most likely history.  Archer is going
> >to be in trouble if the Birds resign McMahon, which I wish they would
> >do soon.  Kemp is going to make the team if for no other reason than
> >for Braman to hang out with his dad, Jack Kemp, on Sunday afternoons.
> >Though he did perform very well off the bench last season.
> 
> Why McMahon?  I would rather see his salary go to up-and-coming QB.  I
> don't know what he does for the team off the field since I don't have
> access to the Philly press, but on the field, he does not impress me at 
> all.  He is just so battered that he doesn't have anything left to give.
> I respect his past achievements but he is just too unreliable...

McMahon was battered and bruised last season, no doubt about it.
But this is the start of a new season.  Last season was an unusual
circumstance.  Nobody expected Randall to go down for the entire
season.  But if Randall goes down for a half, or one game, or two
games, who would you rather have at QB?  An up-and-coming QB with
no NFL experience?  Jeff Kemp?  David Archer?  Or Jim McMahon?
You don't win with an up-and-comer.  Witness Brad Goebel at the
helm against Tampa Bay and New Orleans last season.  You could live
with Kemp or Archer, but in my opinion, McMahon is the best of the
three.  He reads defenses as well as any QB in the league and he is
a leader on and off the field.  And one or two games could be the
difference between making or missing the playoffs.

Coach Rich Kotite has already stated that the Eagles will keep four
QBs.  You start with Randall.  Sign McMahon as backup for the short
term.  Kemp and Archer battle it out for the third string job so you
still have experience at the position.  And of course you nurture
Casey Weldon for the future.

Keeping both Weldon and Goebel doesn't make much sense because you
wouldn't have an experienced third string QB.  So signing McMahon
does not take away from having an up-and-comer for the future.


Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
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Allentown, PA  18103
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: '49ers News
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:33:00 GMT

alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay) writes:
>[...] do you think the
>Niners would also view him [Darian Hagan] as back-up insurance [...] ?

They have Steve Young, Steve Bono and Bill Musgrave...  There would
have to be a major disaster before Hagan needs to take a snap.

Of course, it could be really neat if they had Hagan line up as WR and
then throw a pass in some complex trick play.  But Seifert just
doesn't look like the type to call this sort of thing.

(Do the Niners really tend to call trick plays less often than other
teams?  I have a very hazy recollection of Roger Craig throwing a
pass... did that really happen?)


--Gidi
From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys?
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:33:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

>Point well taken...I wasn't a COWBOY fan till after the JJ's took over.
>My overwhelming memory of DW was him running down the sideline with a wining 
>look on his face like "WHAT DO I DO TOM...WHAT DO I DO???". None the less, 
>you are very precise on your numbers, but who did the BOYS have to go 
>through to get to those NFC championship games?  I beleive that FRAN and 
>ROGER would have been in the SUPER B's that Tommy and Danny were on the 
>doorstep of.

Ummmmm, I'm not so sure about that, particularly that Tommy's Vikes
were ever really that close to a NFC championship.  Now, as much as I
like Roger, I don't think he could have covered Clark any better than
he was covered.  I don't think Roger could have directed the defense,
either.

That NFC title game was not unlike the Ice Bowl, and Meredith was
criticized for not being able to win the big game for the 'boys
(though I would contend he has been Dallas's best qb--anyone who can
sing "I didn't know God made honky tonk angels" in the huddle against
Green Bay has my respect for cool).

The 'boys were outmatched vs. the Redskins, maybe even the Eagles (oh,
as to whom Dallas had to go through, keep in mind that theyayed 2
title games vs. teams in their division--not all that easy a schedule;
and by being one of the top teams those years, Dallas had one of the
supposedly four most difficult schedules--so I don't think an easy
road to the title games was how Dallas made it there in spite of
Danny.)

I do have my doubts about Aikman--he looks like he still needs to work
on scanning his receivers better, but he does show great poise, a
trait that may have been lacking at times in Danny  (the game against
the Redskins for the NFC title was a definite instance, though not
necessarily typical).

Gary Beason
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu

Cowboy fan since '68  (I may have been 5, but I remember Dandy Don)
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys training camp [3. RB's]
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:19:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I'll appreciate it if the more informed fans inform us about the RB's at the
camp:

    (1) E. Smith... I do not have questions about him, but can any RB in camp
    produce if Smith is injured?

    (2) R. Blake... I read that his hip is 100%, is showing any flashes in
    camp?

    (3) C. Richards... heard that he is playing poorly.

    (4) D. Jonston... is he learning anything other than blocking?

    (5) T. Agee... can he do anything special?

Thanks.... AAA.....
From: wakankar@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rison looking at the NBA?
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:15:45 GMT
Reply-To: wakankar@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Organization: Michigan State University
Originator: wakankar@frith.egr.msu.edu

In article <1992Jul22.190601.25767@talon.ucs.orst.edu> curt@OCE.ORST.EDU (Curt Vandetta) writes:
>  offense.  They showed a clip of Rison playing Basketball at whatever
>  college he attended and mentioned that he was considering persueing



I think Andre Rison played for Michigan State.
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From: gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg )
Subject: Re: Most fascinating stadium?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:38:50 GMT

have you ever been to Soldier Field???

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From: josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Joshua (Summer student))
Subject: RE: ideas for pool
Reply-To: josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Joshua (Summer student))
Organization: National Inst. of Health, NINDS, LMCN
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:16:26 GMT

I don't think we should use a spread or confid thing.  Some of us don't have the
time or energy to try and scale our choices.  As others have said before it's
picking the winners, not being able to pick the order of the winners.

josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov
lush@uiuc.edu
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From: gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg )
Subject: REQUEST:  Bears' fight song
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:13:16 GMT

hi all!

i'd appreciate it if somebody could either post or mail me the words to
"Bear Down Chicago Bears".

thanks,


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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Washington Redskins - Feud over the new stadium
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:55:32 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

Condensed From the Washington Post, July 23, 1992:

D.C. Mayor Sharon Pratt Kelly said she will make no more concessions
to Jack Kent Cooke to keep the Washington Redskins in the District,
and she vowed to stand tough against a "billionaire bully." Cooke is 
threatening to move the Redskins to Alexandria in 1994.

Cooke and a gleeful Virginia Governor L. Douglas Wilder announced two
weeks ago that Cooke would build the team's new 78,600-seat stadium
at Potomac Yard in Alexandria rather than next to RFK (the Robert F.
Kennedy stadium).  The reason, he said, was a more generous offer from
Wilder.

Kelly said that she started negotiating "directly" with Cooke about
building the stadium "even before I was sworn in because everybody knows
about the unifying spirit and value of this team."

Kelly said the first thing she asked Cooke to do was give "first preference"
to D.C. residents for highly coveted Redskins season tickets.  That
request apparently died on arrival, Kelly said.

She said she then demanded that 51 percent of the jobs at the stadium
go to D.C. residents and that 35 percent of stadium construction go
to minority contractors in the District.  Cooke agreed.

In return, she said, the District agreed to spend $60 million for
improvements, such as parking and landscaping, and also offered him
escalating annual tax waivers starting at $3.5 million the first year.

In addition, in a statement released before the event, Kelly said the
District offered to Cooke $1.7 million in sales tax credits and a
"guaranteed stadium rental payment of $4.3 million."



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From: exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson)
Subject: Re: VIKINGS - Cut Joey Browner?
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:38:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.230041.20259@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfrbj@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Bob Jorstad) writes:
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
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>From: cfrbj@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Bob Jorstad)
>Subject: Re: VIKINGS - Cut Joey Browner?
>Message-ID: <1992Jul27.230041.20259@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:00:41 GMT
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>Organization: Eastern Illinois University
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>There are many of us Viking fans scattered all over the place; guess we
>moved since the glory days.  Anyway we thirst for detailed information
>about "our Vikes".  Just what are the Minnesota papers and sportscasters
>predicting for the Vikes this year - we need to know.
>        My own personal opinion is that we'll have to wait and see with
>all the changes the team has made this year.  Let's have som comments from
>you folks in the NorthStar state.
>                BOB

} I'm in TX, but the thought from the TALK RADIO shows here is that GREEN is 
another Jimmy Johnson...which would be GREAT....next year...*LOOK OUT*.  
Also, sports media down here seem to like Terry Allen...which I do to..I 
just hope they give him the ball more that 10 times a game and use Craig to 
spell him or for short yardage situations.  I feel for your desparate need 
of VIKINGS info also
}
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