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From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Need info on telecast of WI cricket.
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:19:50 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <PLM.92Nov13092028@reggae.bellcore.com>, plm@reggae.bellcore.com (Paul L. Mowatt) writes:
> Cliff,
> 
> If you get any cricket telecast info could you please pass it on to me.
> I'll be in Jamaica from 12/13/92 to 1/9/93.  I'm sure commentary will be on
> the radio, but I would like to watch some of it.
> 
> Thanx,
> Paul.
> --

I know that cricket is usually on Westar 5 (?) or one of the G? (i.e G2 or G3
or whatever the # is.. I've forgotten).  If you check out rec.sport.cricket,
you might find something posted there over the next few days.

If I see it, I'll cross-post.  Enjoy yard!

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McBean
From: Steve Frampton <frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Dragon Stout (was: Re: Jumbies, Duppies...)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 07:09:54 EST
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
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fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) writes:

> As for staying too long in backra country, mi jus come back fram
> dung a yaad -- di lan a di $500 dollar taxi ride -- an fi mi belly
> fill up wid plenty patty and Dragon!
                               ^^^^^^^
No offence man, but how can you drink that stuff!?

Now RED STRIPE, ah she goes down nice!

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From: wcaw@juliet.caltech.edu (Wilisch, Wolf C. A.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Caribbean stores/restaurants in L.A. area ?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:43 PST
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: la
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hi!

My wife is from Trinidad and is currently pregnant with our second child.
She's having some awful cravings for food from home, so I was wondering if 
anybody knows about any Caribbean (I'm afraid Trinidadian is too much to ask
for) stores or restaurants in the L.A. area (more specifically the San Gabriel
valley).

Any advice would be appreciated

Thanks a lot

Chris W

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: bbe001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Dragon Stout (was: Re: Jumbies, Duppies...)
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:46:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.145632.29847@nntp.hut.fi>, f34151k@taltta.hut.fi (Juha A. 
Kurkela) writes:
 
> Dragon is GOOD, especially with patties. But could you guys tell me why
> Rastamen usually drink Dragon instead of Red Stripe? All Rastas which
> me know choose that stout stuff. They say it tastes better, but me know
> these beers are both very good - and Red Stripe is a little bit cheaper!

Okay hold up...I didn't think Rastamen were supposed to drink- anything! Not
part of the Ital diet- is this just bullshit? But then I bust out w/ Bunny
Wailer's 'Liberation' :
"Nuh follow mystery babylon rastaman/for she's drunken already/don't pollute
your brains with no drugs of cocaine......for wine is a mocker, strong drink is
raging.........step upon the DRAGON rastaman/for he's a fallen angel"
-Dash Wey The Vial

I admit I don't know many rastamen, so is the whole Ital thing just said and
not practised? Or am I right to assume that some do, some don't; sort of like
some Jews are Kosher, some aren't, and some are in the middle...........
Inform me. Thanks.

 

> Juha
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com (Anthony Maillard)
Subject: Sunshine Music Awards (if Yuh int'rested)
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:24:47 GMT

Sunshine Music Awards


Calypso & Steelband Music Award Inc. announced that the 4th Annual Calypso
& Steelband Music Sunshine Award Program held in New York city on 
October 31st. was a huge success. 

The Award Program is designed to recognize, honour and pay tribute to the
artist, writer, producer and arranger of Calypso & Steelband music for
their talents and contributions to the art form. 
Gil Figaro, Founder and Chairman of the program was pleased with the
execution of this years program. Unfortu-nately scheduled hostess, Roberta
Flack canceled due to laryngitis. 

The evenings entertainment included performances by Second Imij, Robert
Greenidge, Boogsie Sharpe, Arddin Herbert, Earl Brooks, Valentino,
Chalkdust, Colin Lucas, David Rudder, Luta, Sugar Aloes, Chaimaine Yates,
Natasha Wilson, Designer, Soca Kid, Marie Brooks Dance Theater, Raf
Robertson, Ellsworth James and Casym Steel Orchestra. 

Results:

Best New Male Artist: 
	Colin Lucas 	- Dollar

Female Vocalist of the Year:	
	Natasha Wilson 	- Demons in T & T

Male Vocalist of the Year:	
	David Rudder 	- Calypso Rising

Best Social Commentary:	
	David Rudder     - Hoosay

Best Creative Humour:	
	Colin Lucas 	- Dollar

Best Engineered Record:	
	Errol Sookradge	- This Melody Sweet

Best Supporting Artists:	
	X-Press Band	- Cant Find Me Woman.



Best Political Commentary:
	King Progress 	- Heaven Help Us All

Best Party Calypso:
	Colin Lucas 	- Dollar

Producer of the Year:
	Errol Ince 	- Demons in T & T

Arranger of the Year:
	Pelham Goddard - Get Smtg & Wave

Calypso of the Year:
	David Rudder 	- Hoosay

Special Awards:

	Hollis Chalkdust Liverpool
	Exodus Steel Orch.
	Andre Tanker

Hall of Fame Inductees:

	Patrick Chinee Patrick Jones
	Theophilus Mighty Spoiler Phillip
	Norman King Radio Spann
	Lord and Lady Iere
	Frankie Francis
	Anthony Williams.



Anthony Maillard
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:53:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1e8u78INNhnv
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1992Nov13.165754.10129@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1dufnhINNctn@network.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) writes:
>> 
>> Rivah Mumma (or Myamaid)
>> Anansi (how you leave him out?)
>> Takooma
>
>Anancy is a jinnal, not a duppy.. As Mutaburaka says "It no good fi stay in a
>white man country too long" -:)  You're losing it Ledgister, time to go back
>home-:)
>

Anansi is a god, remember; the god of stories. In any case, a
mythical being.

As for staying too long in backra country, mi jus come back fram
dung a yaad -- di lan a di $500 dollar taxi ride -- an fi mi belly
fill up wid plenty patty and Dragon!

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She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: buckmr@vccsouth14.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: UWI email addresses
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:02:43 GMT

cscullion@trentu.ca (Chris D. Scullion) writes:

>Does anyone have internet email addresses for any of the campuses for the 
>University of the West Indies that work?  If you have uptodate addresses or 
>one you know that works, please reply to the addresses below.

Try contacting people at the University of Puerto Rico. I know they are trying
to get some kind of UWInet going...


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From: rfrance@umiacs.umd.edu (Robert B France)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spiritsy
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:07:57 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <1992Nov16.204230.12473@ultb.isc.rit.edu> lnm5844@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Hey, are they any Jamacians out there who have heard of Mauby?

The mauby I know is a drink made from the bark of a tree. I had my first
taste of it in Guyana and have since drank it in other Eastern Caribbean
islands. Not sure about Jamaica though.

Robert
From: AGL1@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:40:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92323.174021AGL1
 <17NOV199219102204@trentu.ca>
Organization: Penn State University

There is another Jamaican spirit that was around when I was in primary school
in St. Elizabeth:

           The 3-wheel coffin with 3 johncrows ( vultures ) on each corner

This took away little children in the late evening.  I think this was intended
 to frighten children so that they would not linger after school until dusk.

Arlene Laing
____________________________________________________________________
                        l "Ranny, where yu is?
agl1@psuvm.psu.edu      l "Leaning up aghence a banana tree"
Penn State University   l "Which banana tree?"
University Park PA 16802l "The banana tree dat is leaning aghence me"
                        l           Louise Bennett and Ranny Williams
________________________l___________________________________________
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: cscullion@trentu.ca (Chris D. Scullion)
Subject: UWI email addresses
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:14:00 GMT


Greetings....

Does anyone have internet email addresses for any of the campuses for the 
University of the West Indies that work?  If you have uptodate addresses or 
one you know that works, please reply to the addresses below.

Thanks in advance!!

				chris scullion
				cscullion@trentu.ca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com (Anthony Maillard)
Subject: INS Deportations (if Yuh int'rested)
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:38:19 GMT

Jamaica & D.R.  High in Deportations

The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) deported a record 35,390
aliens after formal proceedings in the latest fiscal year, nearly half of
them because of criminal or drug convictions in the United States, Gene
McNary, commissioner, announced today.
McNary said, "The increased criminal deportations demonstrate the
administration's commitment to the war on drugs and crime.  By removing
alien criminals under formal deportation proceedings we can ensure they no
longer pose a threat in this country, and if they attempt re-entry they can
be prosecuted for that violation."
Mexico remains the country to which more aliens are deported than any
other, with 25,411 Mexicans (including 12,657 criminals) being returned.
Other countries to which the U.S. returned substantial numbers of criminal
aliens included Columbia (664), El Salvador (648), the Dominican Republic
(642), and Jamaica (607).  No other country accounted for more than 300
deported criminals.

(Editted version).
Source - IPS. Copyright reserved.

Anthony Maillard
From: Steve Frampton <frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Caribbean Food (was: Re: Dragon Stout)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 13:29:46 EST
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
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ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis) writes:

> Back home (Nicaragua's east coast) we make something called (hot) patty.
> They are like little croisants (?) with ground meat inside and baked to 
> a crisp.  Are we talking the same thing here?  Of course it's 'hot' 
> because the meat has gourd (goat?) pepper in it.

Yes, you're talking about the same thing.

Trouble is, around here, I've never had one I could consider HOT!  :-(
> 
> We also have something called plantain tart, which is similar but larger 
> and sweet instead.  Do you folks know this?

Never heard about it...sounds delicious!  Please -- post the recipe!

+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
| (Don't forget both email and mailing address) | CANADA   K7L 1C3   |
+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.african.american
From: ronaldd@cbnewse.cb.att.com (ronald.h.davis)
Subject: news from trinadad & tobago: resumption of executions
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:13:06 GMT

newsfeed from igc peacenet:


Topic 328       TRINIDAD & TOBAGO: Executions
hrcoord reg.carib       11:48 am  Nov 15, 1992

From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: TRINIDAD & TOBAGO: Executions

/* Written 10:52 pm  Nov 14, 1992 by aiusala@igc.apc.org in igc:ai.general */
Amnesty International
International Secretariat
1 Easton Street
London WC1X 8DJ
United Kingdom

9 November 1992

TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO: AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNS RESUMPTION OF EXECUTIONS 

Three men, Gayman Jurisingh, Peter Matthews and Faizal Mohammed, are scheduled
to be executed in the early morning of Tuesday 10 November 1992.  They have
been on death row since June 1982, February 1984 and February 1982
respectively. 

      "We strongly condemn this attempt to resume executions in Trinidad and
Tobago after 13 years," said Amnesty International.  "We are also concerned
that the three men may have not been informed of their right to petition the
United Nations Human Rights Committee".

      "Furthermore, we have serious concerns that international standards
requiring fair trial within a reasonable time were not respected in the case
of Peter Matthews.  Although sentenced in February 1984, he was reportedly
charged in August 1978, which would indicate a delay of nearly six years in
the proceedings".

      As Trinidad and Tobago is a party to the International Covenant on Civil
and Political Rights and its Optional Protocol, prisoners can submit their
cases to the United Nations Human Rights Committee for their consideration. 
Although prisoners in Trinidad and Tobago have done this in the past, none of
the three men due to be executed have done so.

      In 1990 a Commission of Inquiry into Capital Punishment submitted a
report to President Noor Hassanali which recommended among other things that
prisoners sentenced to death over 10 years ago should have their sentences
commuted to life imprisonment.  "It is very disappointing that the government
has decided to execute these men, is spite of this recommendation", said
Amnesty International.

      These recommendations were reportedly accepted by both the government
then in power and the new government, elected in December 1992. 

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From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:32:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Nov17.154432.10197@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1e8u78INNhnv@network.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov13.165754.10129@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>>In article <1dufnhINNctn@network.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> Rivah Mumma (or Myamaid)
>>>> Anansi (how you leave him out?)
>>>> Takooma
>>>
>>>Anancy is a jinnal, not a duppy.. As Mutaburaka says "It no good fi stay in a
>>>white man country too long" -:)  You're losing it Ledgister, time to go back
>>>home-:)
>>>
>> 
>> Anansi is a god, remember; the god of stories. In any case, a
>> mythical being.
>
>Nope.  Let me hit you with an Anancy story from memory.  Anancy goes out to
>gather food, and comes back with a several bunches of bananas.  Being greedy he
>wants to eat it all, but he will look bad.  So, jinnal that he is, he gives all
>the bananas to his family leaving none for himself.  Everybody feels sorry for
>him and gives him half of what he gave them.  So Anansi ends up with half of
>the food.  Anansi is a supposed to be a spider.  

I've been assured by several Ghanaians I've known that Anansi is a
god (the god of Wednesday, at that).

>
>On a side, this is supposed to be one of the things which established the
>Ashanti origins of many Jamaicans (same Anancy tradition), as well as names
>like Cudjoe.
>
>> 
>> As for staying too long in backra country, mi jus come back fram
>> dung a yaad -- di lan a di $500 dollar taxi ride -- an fi mi belly
>> fill up wid plenty patty and Dragon!
>
>Look forward to my permanent return in February or so.   $500 taxi ride you
>said?  Damn, mus juk down the bossman fi more dollars den..

Inflation has turned the J'can dollar into decorative paper. It
isn't funny, alas, to buy the Gleaner for $5 and lunch (two patties
and a soda) for $28.

>McBean
>
>Nah live a foreign and tun shoeshine,
>Prefer do some hustling on the front line.
> 	--	Junior Reid


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: lnm5844@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spiritsy
Reply-To: lnm5844@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:42:30 GMT

Hey, are they any Jamacians out there who have heard of Mauby?
I have a jamacian friend here who claims that there is either
no such thing, or that it must be called by a different name.
If you are Jamacian, and you know what I am talking adout, then
please reply. This matter mut be cleared up immediately! There
are just somethings that every Caribbean person should know!!!

						 Thanks
							Moose.
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:23:04 -0500 
From: "Tahmin O. Clarke" <tc37+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: VIP

 Everyday I read this b-board wondering if there is anyone from the
Virgin Islands out there.  I am still looking for someone to write to
and talk about all the latest happenings down there.  If you are from
there or even know of any recent news please write this b-board.  If I
hear of anything I will be sure to post it.

Thanks,

Virgin Islands Posse
in Pittsburgh,  CMU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com (Anthony Maillard)
Subject: Caribbean Tourism (if Yuh intr'ested)
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:27:28 GMT

Caribbean Tourism Down

Tourism in the Caribbean fell in 1991, the first decrease in ten years and
that trend continued in the first half of 1992, reports Jean Holder, the
secretary general of the Caribbean Tourism Association. 
Holder speaking to the Grenada Board of Tourism, said that the downturn was
caused, in part, by the war in the Persian Gulf, recessions in many regular
tourist-generating markets and the demise of PanAmerican Airways and
several large tour operators.
....It now appears that 1992 will probably continue to be a year of little
or no overall growth in travel to the Caribbean from North America, Holder
concluded.

Source - Class Magazine

Anthony Maillard
From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: good book
Date: 17 Nov 1992 16:47:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world, rec, usa, all
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo

In article <BxM4nM.K5n@acsu.buffalo.edu> simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon) writes:
>	I was looking for any good books you may know of about Caribbean (in 
>general); esp. history, economy, and the political situation...Just read 
>_A Continent of Islands_, which was up to date and comprehensive...check it
>out.

I'd recommend Michael Manley's "Struggle In The Periphery". The book
was written in the early '80s after Manley was forced out as Prime
Minister of Jamaica by a combination of International Monetary Fund
machinations, purported CIA dirty tricks (in support of the JLP
and its leader Seaga, hence the derisive rename CIAga), and Manley's
own admitted political and economic mistakes.

Rather than being just about Jamaica, this books analyses Manley's
vision of an independent grouping of third world countries, the
non-aligned movement, struggling to free themselves of first and
second world manipulation. He also talks at length about the
Jamaican economy, and his attempts to make it autonomous, free
of multi-national corporate control.

More than anything though, the feeling which one gets from the
book is of Manley's love for the people and country of Jamaica,
and his hopes for their future.


....
jimh@west.sun.com