From: urwaleck@eaeps1.tuwien.ac.at (Martin Urwaleck)
Subject: Re: Help with Novell to TCP/IP-SMTP
Organization: Inst. for General Electrics & Electronics, TU Vienna
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:08:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.174405.5187@mathcs.sjsu.edu> rick@mathcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.143222.15740@ohnews.hydro.on.ca> harold.w.asmis@hydro.on.ca writes:
>>In article <1992Apr06.204659.26405@ka3ovk> albers@ka3ovk.UUCP (Jon Albers) writes:
>>>
>>>Hello.  I am a systems admin on UNIX minis, and we have a TCP/IP network
>>>that includes several minis and micros running UNIX.  We are adding
>>>an internet connection to the mini network, and wish to be able to pass
>>>e-mail in and out.  Now I've got the UNIX end covered, but part of
>>>this project is a Novell LAN of PCs.  We have the hardware to connect
>>>the Novell lan to the TCP/IP LAN, but I don't think we have the right
>>>software on the Novell LAN to send and receive SMTP mail.  I know very 
>>>little about Novell, so I am not even sure what questions to ask, and the
>>>SA of the Novell LAN is just as much in the dark about TCP/IP. 
>>>
>>>So, how can I get SMTP mail going between these two networks?  I'm sure
>>>someone out there has done it: how?
>>>
>>>                                             Jon
>>
>>Hi, we're in the same boat, re. Novell and Unix mail.  We have over
>>150 servers running ms-mail on the novell side, and the only 
>>immediate way to connect them to smtp is to buy a very expensive
>>conversion package for each server-postoffice! (they don't talk
>>directly to each other, but work through a mess of pc "shuttlers").
>>I think they're working on a x.400 hub, but that could take forever.

>You should not need to buy much of anything.  If your MS-MAIL is the
>new MS-MAIL (Network Courier, renamed and slightly altered), it should be
>an MHS mail client (Network Courier was, so, unless MS decided to castrate
>yet another product then it still should be an MHS client).
>Then all you need is a MHS<->SMTP gateway, and 
>Charon is a 'free' MHS-SMTP gateway product.  Get Charon, get an
>old PC, and install your own gateway to get you from UNIX to Novell and
>back again.

As far as I know Charon is NO MHS-SMTP gateway, but together with Pmail it's 
a complete solution for your problems. I'm using it for over one year now, 
and I really like it. If you have set up Charon correctly, you can simply 
forget the gateway, it runs very stable (at least V3.5beta2, 3.4 has a bug 
which takes the gateway down now and then). Charon and Pmail are free 
software. With charon you can even time-sync your Netware servers with your 
local time server or any other host you like as a reference.

>>IMHO, if I were starting from scratch, I would forget putting the
>>e-mail on novell, much the same way that we're dropping it for 
>>heavy database work (using Unix database servers).  Users would then
>>just log onto a unix mail server, like they'll have to log onto
>>a unix database server anyways.
        Martin Urwaleck

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