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From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.noncomm
Subject: reporting to CMJ
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:23:54 GMT
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In theory, WUMD reports its Top 35 to the College
 Music Journal.  We haven't recently, because it's
 my job now + I have no idea where to begin.

Problem being, in a typical week, the most popular
 song might get played a half dozen times.  In 
 order to get a Top 35 or so, I have to dig down
 to any song played twice that week.  So now I've
 got a list of about 50 songs.  What do I do with
 it?  How do I choose which one is #24 and which
 is #25?  More importantly, which are #35 + #36?

Also, I get the impression that I should have a
 lot of ulterior motives in my selections.  That
 is, I should butter up record labels by playing
 their bands, thereby enticing them to send us
 more music.  Is this good or bad?  Who does it
 work best on?  

Also, ack shutdown imminent.  More later.
-- 
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Program Director, WUMD		ISO part time job to pay the rent.
From: lee@pranny.uucp (Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.noncomm
Subject: NPR mugs...
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:23:29 GMT
Organization: Pranny International, Incorporated.

....I know this is nuts, but I collect mugs....nothing special, but I
have a number of NPR station mugs.  

   Would anyone out there have any similar mugs they'd be willing to part 
with?  Hey, some go for QSL cards - try drinking coffee out of those!!!

  All resonable offers and pricing entertained.

                      regards,
                               Lee.
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From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Subject: Re: AM stereo
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Green Hills and Cows
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:47:05 GMT

steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:

> There was great discussion here early on about AM stereo radio.  In
> setting the radio buttons in my wife's new 92 Taurus, I discovered
> several AM stereo stations -- two were in Fresno, as I recall (we get
> Fresno AM with regularity here in San Jose).  And...these WERE stereo
> stations.
> 
> So...it appears that, at least, Ford is putting AM stereo receivers in
> some of their automobiles.

And with a heavy emphasis on the WERE. This morning I decided to take
my Sansui multi-mode radio and see how many stations were still making
the valient attempt. Please sit down. There are exactly two AM stations in
the SF Bay Area that are still broadcasting in stereo. From memory,
here is a list of stations that once did but no longer have a stereo
signal: KFRC, KNBR, KABL, KOFY, KOIT, and KKHI. The two remaining? KSFO
and KEEN.

KEEN is in the process of relocating its towers. This would be a
perfect time to can the stereo--if one can even buy the stereo
generating equipment anymore!

So car manufacturers are finally installing AM stereo radios? IMHO, it
is a day late and a dollar short. This might have meant something
seven or eight years ago when AM really needed the boost, but now that
AMs are all going talk, foreign language, brokered time, or even dark,
the stereo issue appears to be moot.

Oh, don't take my word for it; tune across the dial. The marketplace
speaks.


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From: prmount@attmail.att.com (Paul R Mount)
Subject: Re: WLUP shuffles superstars, Howard Stern to join.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:07:43 GMT

As was pointed out elsewhere, even when the morning man has a 10 share
(as Howard has in Philadelphia these days) that still means 9 out of 10

people DON'T listen to him.  (even if I'd been the 1).

It will be great in Chicago if Dahl & Meier, and Stern go to commercials
at different times.  (except for the advertisers, it'd be great).

[Moderator's Note:  I just wish they had left Steve & Garry on the AM, and
put Stern on the FM.  Steve & Garry have been veterans of Chicago radio for
over 15 years.  Many listeners of their show are outside the limited range of
the FM (the FM is short-spaced with a co-channel in Grand Rapids Mich just
over Lake Michigan).  Moving them to mornings is not so bad, but the band
change will favor newcomer Stern and (IMHO) hinder Steve & Garry.  Besides,
Stern's show is far less mature and interestig than S&G. Shame.]
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From: klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein)
Subject: Re: AM stereo 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:43:34 GMT

steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:
> So...it appears that, at least, Ford is putting AM stereo receivers in
> some of their automobiles.
> 

GM did this with Delco, I believe.  I did some research on the subject
of AM stereo, and the manufacturers leaned hard on car manufacturers
to install it.  I also understand that there is a real incentive for
car manufacturers to put the AM stereo radio in....the list price is
far above the actual cost.

Bruce Klopfenstein

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From: johnsonc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Chris Johnson)
Subject: Seeking College Station List
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:52:21 GMT

Hello everyone.

I had been an avid reader of this group last spring, but have been away for
a while.  While I had been here, there was talk of creating a database of
College Stations.  I am wondering where I can get a hold of this list.

Also, while I am taking up net-space, I suppose I could introduce myself.
I am a part of the University of Colorado at Boulder's Campus station KUCB.
We are presently a carrier current/cable FM station that is trying to 
convince people to give us LOTS of money to purchase a full power licence.
We are concorruntly looking for a new licence from the FCC, but the Boulder-
Denver market is jam packed, and it does not look good.  

Have any stations out there been involved in similar undertakings recently?
I would like to speak (or perhaps 'tap' :-]) with others who may be of
assistance.

e-mail me at johnsonc@spot.colorado.edu
phone to (303) 492-5031
fax to (303) 492-5105
snail mail to KUCB
              attn: Chris Johnson
              Campus Box 207
              Boulder, CO 80309

Thank you,

Chris Johnson
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From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Commercials and listener station hopping
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:53:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.205329.10559@gagme.chi.il.us> seb@draper.com (Steve
Bacher) writes:
>
>Barry points out that commercial radio is doing a lousy job of delivering
>even its bottom-line reason for existence - income for its advertisers.
>Similarly, I contend that commercial radio is doing an equally lousy job
>at another of its traditional functions - stimulating record sales.

This is absolutely true, and it's part of the increasing conservatism of
programming these days.  Stations won't play a song unless it's popular.
Songs won't become popular until stations play them.  Thus, fewer and fewer
new pieces of music make it on to the playlists.

And no, the solution isn't to compress and clip the music so hard that
listeners can't tell what they are listening to.
--scott

(By the way, I am still looking for any transcriptions of old Reagan 
 speeches mentioning Star Wars, preferably audio tapes.  State of the
 Union speeches are fine.)


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From: devmail!pr@pegasus.att.com  (Paul  Richards)
Subject: Alternative radio in Philly
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: att
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:22:55 GMT

In reply to Michael Cornell's posting about alternative outlet in Philly:d.

First of all, what's wrong with WXPN-88.5 at U of PA?                        

      
The commercial station rumored to go alternative is WIBF-103.9 Jenkintown,
currentlywith ethnic and/or religious programming. They were recently sold 
to Jarad Broadcasting, owners of WDRE Garden City NY (formerly WLIR).

With an owner committed to modern rock, it's a good bet for Philly
so if you're within range of there, let us know what's happening
(I see you have one of those Case wEstern Reserve accts - how do you
go about getting one of those?)

Paul Richards
pegasus!devmail!pr
or pegasus!testnet!pr

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From: barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind)
Subject: Re: Commercials and listener station hopping
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:49:05 GMT

jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas) writes:

> I have been in radio for 15+ years and the station I'm at now, I think 
> has the right idea.  We play two clusters an hour just before 15 and 45 
> and play 6 units in each so the sets can be and frequently are 6 minutes 

I'd have to differ with you, unless you think the purpose of radio 
broadcasting is to make the teens happy. 

Broadcasting as operated in this country is designed to present an audience 
to an advertiser, who in turn pays the bills. The "product" is not the 
music, it is the audience...

If I were an advertiser, I would intentionally shy away from any station 
that tried to convince me that being fourth of six spots is not being 
"buried" and nearly worthless.

Far too many advertising agencies buy raw numbers, and rarely learn a lesson 
a good local agency does ... numbers of non-responsive children do not bring 
in the income for the business to continue existing. That leads to less 
income for the station. That leads, quite often, to format changes.

Somewhat simplistic, I'll admit. But six spots in a row is NOT what radio 
should be about.


==================================================================
Barry Mishkind
barry@jab.tucson.az.us

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From: seb@draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Subject: Re: Commercials and listener station hopping
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: __
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:53:29 GMT

I'd like to add to Barry Mishkind's and Jim McNicholas's recent comments
about commercial radio broadcasting.

Barry points out that commercial radio is doing a lousy job of delivering
even its bottom-line reason for existence - income for its advertisers.
Similarly, I contend that commercial radio is doing an equally lousy job
at another of its traditional functions - stimulating record sales.

If radio announcers simply fill the airwaves withear candy and neglect
to identify what they are playing, as seems to be the rule rather than
the exception these days (esp. in the Boston area), then how can the
listeners be expected to rush out and spend their allowances on the
latest groovy teenybopper hit?  If I were a record company, I'd start
a class action suit.

Even by Wall Street standards of focusing on the short term, this seems
self-destructive in the extreme.  No wonder the economy is in such bad
shape, if American business has even lost the ability to collude with
itself to extract dollars from the consumer's wallet.
 
 - seb

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From: barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind)
Subject: Re: Commercials and listener station hopping
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:52:36 GMT

seb@draper.com (Steve Bacher) writes:

> Barry points out that commercial radio is doing a lousy job of delivering
> even its bottom-line reason for existence - income for its advertisers.
> Similarly, I contend that commercial radio is doing an equally lousy job
> at another of its traditional functions - stimulating record sales.
> 
Traditional, yes. But not an actual purpose, or the record companies would 
be operating the stations, and playing only their artists around the clock!

> If radio announcers simply fill the airwaves withear candy and neglect
> to identify what they are playing, as seems to be the rule rather than
> the exception these days (esp. in the Boston area), then how can the
> listeners be expected to rush out and spend their allowances on the
> latest groovy teenybopper hit?  If I were a record company, I'd start
> a class action suit.
> 

One of the recurrent battles in history is between the record companies and 
the broadcasters over payment for playing the music. ASCAP/BMI/SESAC are all 
in there with their hands out, and the broadcasters hate paying anything at 
all... so there is a fight every time the contracts run out.

The record companies say they are providing radio with raw material to get 
their audiences, and ought be compensated. Radio says they are helping the 
record companies.

Meanwhile politicians and ex-politicians are all geting rich consulting the 
industries they used to regulate. It's all over money and power... nothing 
more.


==================================================================
Barry Mishkind
barry@jab.tucson.az.us

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From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Subject: Re: Call Letter Meanings 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The Tiny Software Co., via APK Public Access Unix, Cleveland
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:48:23 GMT

>>In/around Ft. Lauderdale/Miami:
>>WCIX - channel 6
>
>Or channel 109?  :-)

:o)

Also in Miami:

WSVN, Channel 7

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From: bily@cwis.unomaha.edu (Bily J Foster)
Subject: KBLZ NEEDS HELP
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:10:54 GMT



First About Me: I'm Bily J a Disc Jockey at a college radio station dubbed
		KBLZ.  I'm a freshman here at Universty of Nebraska in Omaha
		I'm in the mists of become production manager.

About KBLZ: 	We used to broadcast on the local cable company channel 53.
		Since the arivail of the Sci Fi channel we got the boot.
		We're despratly trying to get a transmitter and liecence
		We receive NO FINACIAL AID (as far as I know) from UNO

What We Need:	We'd like to find out as much as we can about what we need.
		I know it sounds like we're just a bunch of college kids
		trying to broadcast our mishaps, but we're not, most of us
		REALLY want to turn KBLZ into something more than on campus
		Radio but we're not sure how, or what we need.  Any assistance
		would be greatly appreciated.

What We Have:  	We have the equipement as far as the studio goes, two CD
		players 2 cart players, two turntables, phone, Mutual News,
		and we're allowed to use the production studio's of the BIG
		campus radio classical station, KVNO.

		We have the following postions and are wondering what else
		we need.

		General Manager
		Program Director
		Production Manager
		Sales Director

	We could also use alot of information on things to do to get the 
	public to notice us.  Here's an example of what we've did.  We had
	10 tickets to give away and we gave away 2.  Not a big crowd.  Ideas
	please.  Unless of course you just want to offer me a job and I'll
	just head out there.

Bily J.

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From: yag@eng.umd.edu (Eric Funk)
Subject: Re: Alternative radio in Philly 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:46:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.072255.694@gagme.chi.il.us>, devmail!pr@pegasus.att.com
 (Paul  Richards) writes:
>In reply to Michael Cornell's posting about alternative outlet in Philly:d.
>
>First of all, what's wrong with WXPN-88.5 at U of PA?  

Reminds me, I've been looking for a list of stations which carry the
"World Cafe'" program which is produced at XPN. I grew up listening to
David Die(sp?) on WIOQ and was gald to hear that he's still in Philly on
the radio. I'm also interested in the very alternative overnight program from
APR (whatever it is called). Does anyone know which stations carry these programs?
(I'm in the Washington, DC area looking for something other than a Jazz or
 Classical non-com)

>      
>The commercial station rumored to go alternative is WIBF-103.9 Jenkintown,
>currentlywith ethnic and/or religious programming. They were recently sold 
>to Jarad Broadcasting, owners of WDRE Garden City NY (formerly WLIR).
>
Looks like WIBF will need a great deal of technical improvements before any
switch which
might occur. It is currently a low-power (probably apx 2-5 kW) mono station
with terrible
fidelity. My guess is that phone lines are used for the studio transmitter
link.
By the way,  if I were Jarad broadcasting I'd just simulcast WDRE programming



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From: sjones@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: **SUMMARY** Call Letter Meanings
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:35:08 GMT

Many call letters are abbreviations of the home town's name.  usually
the K (or the W) has to be omitted to make the abbreviation, as in

  KSMO   Salem, MO
  KMMO   Marshall, MO

But in Kansas City, the K stays:

  KCMO   in Kansas City, MO
  KCKN   in Kansas City, Kansas


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From: sjones@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: Compiling list of station positioners
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:40:29 GMT

In <1992Sep26.074815.1431@gagme.chi.il.us> lhpalter\@nexus.yorku.ca (Laurence
Palter) writes:

>Some Canadian radio 'positioners'

>Energy108 - CING-FM 107.9 Burlington, Ontario.

I think this is used by all of Rawlco's top hits format stations.  In
Ottawa we have Energy 1200. (AM 1200)

Rawlco has also has bought into the 'Magic' format.  In Ottawa it
is Magic 100 (CJMJ 100.7).  There are others all across Canada with
the same format and the same woman on TV telling you about them.  

This is the midle of rado ratings in Ottawa (maybe elsewhere, too).
Lots of junky contests and big bucks for the TV stations carrying all
the ads (there is no cross ownership any more in Ottawa, except for
the CBC).

We also have Sunny 1310 (an oldies station.)  Just what 'sunny' has to
do with a radio format - especially one in Ottawa - is not clear.

Ottawa's long time elevator music station CFMO packed in the Mantovani
recently for an oldies format (new call letters, too, CKKL), caling
itself KOOL-FM.  (Is there no on ewith any imagination runing private
radio in Canada?)  The change came despite the fact the station had
been 2nd or 3rd in al the recent ratings.  But, so say the small
brains in charge, it wasn't delivering the highly regarded 25-45
audience.


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From: ed.hopper@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Ed Hopper) 
Subject: Re: NBC Chimes 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:02:49 GMT


In article, 1992Sep23.000620.17352@gagme.chi.il.us, blair@obdient.chi.il.us
(pri=-10-Doug Blair) writes:
-> As long as we're discussing the NBC Chimes, how many remember that there
-> were <FOUR> notes on the xylophone?  The first three, G-E-C, were struck at
-> various cue times to signal breaks for locally
-> inserted commercials and occasional news breaks. The fourth note,
-> a bit higher than the others, was added when the network was returning
-> control to the local stations and would supply no further programming for a
-> while.

Not so, the fourth note was used to declare an emergency.  All hands were
supposed to report to NBC when these gongs were heard.  It was used on December
7, 1941, among other times.
                   

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From: netxcom!jwc%netex.netx.com@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Comer)
Subject: Re: Call Letter Meanings
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: NetExpress 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:50:40 GMT

barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind) wrote,
>
>KFOG  San Francisco     ....where else???? 

How about KOIT? It doesn't stand for anything, but isn't it near the Coit
Tower in SFO? I always got a kick out of their name, thinking perhaps they
had left off a couple of letters....

Oh, here's another call sign "fit":

WGOE   Richmond VA       We Gross Out Everybody. (and they did from time
			 to time)

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From: netxcom!jwc%netex.netx.com@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Comer)
Subject: More station positioners
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: NetExpress
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:06:53 GMT


Here are some from the DC market...

"Less music by dead guys" - WHFS 99.1 Alternative
"Howard Stern all morning, Don and Mike all afternoon, and G. Gordon Liddy
  midday, 106.7 FM, WJFK" 
"Deep Cuts" - WCXR 105.9 Classic Rock

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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Subject: AM stereo
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The GRAFex Company
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:37:56 GMT

There was great discussion here early on about AM stereo radio.  In
setting the radio buttons in my wife's new 92 Taurus, I discovered
several AM stereo stations -- two were in Fresno, as I recall (we get
Fresno AM with regularity here in San Jose).  And...these WERE stereo
stations.

So...it appears that, at least, Ford is putting AM stereo receivers in
some of their automobiles.

steve

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