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From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Out of print imports?
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:11:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshub.1992Sep30.171154.19159
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences

mdcolby@OCTAVO writes:
> Doubtless, this is asking the impossible, but . . .
> 
> Does anyone know of any way to attempt to obtain out of print, import
> CDs?  I have dealt with three different import cd firms (one of which
> I will never send another penny again, but none of them will make any
> attempt to locate discs considered "out-of-print."  Now, just because
> a disc is no longer active in the label's catalog doesn't mean that it
> isn't sitting on a shelf somewhere in that country, it seems to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael Colby

This is a very frustrating problem.  The only way I have found is to ask
any net contacts in those countries where the disc used to be in print to
scour the stores in their locale to see if it is "sitting on a shelf".  
Offering appropriate compensation is of course a must. I have had little
luck though with discs that have been out of print for more than a few months.

Or, you can make a request in rec.music.marketplace.  I wouldn't build your
hopes up though.  

BTW if anyone has a CD copy of the UK release "Uh! Tears Baby" by Win please
contact me, especially if you might be willing to sell it.  This was deleted
some 2 or 3 years ago and I only discovered how good it was a year or so
ago.  

Derek Langsford
 
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From: gts@gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Evil Microwizard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
Subject: Import CD-5 all-clear jewel box source?
Date: 27 Sep 92 07:44:15 GMT
Reply-To: gts@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Distribution: usa

hey, does anyone have a source for the CD boxes that import CD singles
(and a few domestic) come in?  they're all clear plastic, very thin,
and they're made to hold the disc label side down so you can see it
out the back side.

i've had a few of these broken, and i don't want to just replace them
with plain jewel cases, as the labels won't fit properly.

thanks for your attention!  e-mail replies appreciated.

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From: andrew_abernathy@wire.gwinnett.com (andrew abernathy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Pink Floyd - When The Tigers Broke Free
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:48:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: wire.1992Oct1.014816.7004
Organization: or lack thereof


	Several months ago I finally got hold of the Pink Floyd 7"
single "When the Tigers Broke Free" from the movie "The
Wall."  Some guy told me that the song is available on one of
the Pink Floyd albums... I no longer remember which
album, but I checked the CD at the time and it wasn't there. 
Does anyone know of a cd with this track on it, or if it was on
the vinyl and/or cassette versions of some album, but
dropped from the cd?  Thanks. 

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From: dlucy@sandr.COM (Douglas Lucy)
Subject: FIREFALL: New Rhino releases?
Organization: S&R Software, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:41:21 GMT

I just saw Firefall (late '70's rock group) last night at Virginia's
State Fair. They are back together and are working on a new album for
release in Jan '93.

They also announced their previous albums were being re-released as
CD's on the RHINO label. Anyone know which are available now and which
will be available soon?

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From: daz@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Dazza Primm)
Subject: Re: Conan soundtrack on CD yet?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:15:29 GMT

mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop) writes:

>I'm still looking for the original motion picture soundtrack album to
>_Conan The Barbarian_ on CD.  Music composed by Basil Poledouris,
>released on LP and Cassette by MCA.
>Has anyone ever found a copy of this on CD?  Thanx.

Conan will be releases on CD in the states on 13th October, on the
Varese Sarabande label. (VSD 5390)

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From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Soundtrack
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:04:23 GMT

I called Polygram and they have no plans to release the album and
Warner has no plans to release the real soundtrack either.
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and I can pay someone else to make your mistakes. 
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From: bearcub@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Husky Cub)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: FIREFALL: New Rhino releases?
Date: 27 Sep 1992 20:27:07 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Sep27.184121.5762@sandr.COM> dlucy@sandr.COM (Douglas Lucy) writes:
>I just saw Firefall (late '70's rock group) last night at Virginia's
>State Fair. They are back together and are working on a new album for
>release in Jan '93.
>
>They also announced their previous albums were being re-released as
>CD's on the RHINO label. Anyone know which are available now and which
>will be available soon?

The ones I've seen are "Firefall's Greatest Hits" and Firefall's First album.
Both were re-issues on Rhino.

Bearcub


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From: brody@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Adam R. Brody )
Subject: Columbia House
Summary: A good story about Col. House
Keywords: Columbia House
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:43:37 GMT

I just received my free disks after signing up a friend.  Because
one of the disks was double, they kept the double and gave me a
credit for one disk.  I called them and told them I would prefer to
send them the credit and one of the disks in exchange for the double.
They are sending the double and the mailing label right now.
No fuss, no muss!!
Thought you would all like to know!
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: green markers (was Re: Do CD's degrade?, and DCC questions)
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:10:19 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep28.210351.27815@ultb.isc.rit.edu> eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story) writes:
>What is this Green Pen stuff?  I've never heard of this.. do we mark all
>over the CD with green pen? (hehe).. seriously, what is it?  Is there a
>FAQ for this group, anyway?
Supposedly, if you take a green marker and color around the edge of the
disc, it improves the sound.  Supposedly, the green helps reflect the
laser or keeps it from "leaking" or something.  Some people swear by
it.  Personally, I think it's a conspiracy by green marker manufacturers!

:)

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From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD packaging
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:47:32 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

VETTERS@vax1.elon.edu (Steve Vetter  ) writes:

>Peter Gabriel's new disc is shipped to record stores shrink wrapped
>with just a special metal foil label over the opening.
>The guy at the record store said that the'll all be like that
>next year...

Yes, but was it in a jewel box?

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
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From: mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka)
Subject: Re: Green Ink Hoax
Organization: NRaD
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:13:19 GMT

	We thrashed this out thoughly a few years ago in my INFOCD mailing list,
it seems that only the "fringe tweaks" beleived in the ink, the guys who can hear
"notch distortion" and have to adjust their wood cartridges for each LP. The
mainstream publications such as Stereo Review and Audio all debunked the myth,
but Stereophile and the like claimed fabulous results.

	Wayne Green of CD Review had the best article, he claimed to have a new
substance, "Balonium", with all kinds of remarkable properties and wanted to sell
it to the guys who believed in green ink.

						Mike
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From: kiniry@giane.cs.umass.edu (Joe Kiniry)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: Welcome to the Pleasuredome by Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Summary: Original version of CD wanted only
Keywords: Frankie, Hollywood, CD, Pleasuredome
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:53:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
   I will pay good money for the CD _Welcome to the Pleasuredome_ by
Frankie Goes to Hollywood.  I am looking for the _ORIGINAL_ version of 
the CD distributed by Island Records ZTT.  

This version can be identified with the following information:
     1. The ID # for the CD starts with a 9, I believe.
     2. On the song listing on the back of the CD song #2 is labeled
        Welcome to the Pleasuredome (on the newer CDs that line is blank)
     3. The CD has the long versions of Two Tribes.
     4. The CD includes the entire segment repeating the words 
        "Mine is the last voice you will ever hear, do not be alarmed." and 
        "If you mother, or any other member of your family dies due to 
        radiation, put them outside, but remember to tag them first for 
        decomtamination purposes.".   This entire segement of voices is NOT 
        on the new CD.  
     5. There is NO voice overlay during the jungle sounds at the beginning of
        the CD on the old version.

If you would like to sell this CD, please email me at kiniry@cs.umass.edu
and I will make it worth your while.

---joe
kiniry@cs.umass.edu
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From: VETTERS@vax1.elon.edu (Steve Vetter  )
Subject: BMG's Phone #
Organization: Elon College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:32:38 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

After I got thankfully got the phone number for BMG
a couple of people asked me for it.  Here it is...

1 800 WAMADEU(s) numbers...

1 800 926 2338.

Steve Vetter
vetters@vax1.elon.edu

or if you prefer numbers

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From: bob@medrcw.b17b.ingr.com (Robert Whitehead)
Subject: RTZ - review needed
Reply-To: bob@medrcw.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Vulcan Science Academy Foreign Student Union
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 19:45:54 GMT

Frustrated former Boston fan needs review of RTZ's first CD; anybody got
it?
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From: mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 04:22:09 GMT
Subject: Conan soundtrack on CD yet?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd

I'm still looking for the original motion picture soundtrack album to
_Conan The Barbarian_ on CD.  Music composed by Basil Poledouris,
released on LP and Cassette by MCA.

Has anyone ever found a copy of this on CD?  Thanx.

Michael Bishop
Hewlett-Packard Company
Internet: mike-b@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: andy@ice.stx.com (Andy Moore)
Subject: The first CD that wouldn't play...
Reply-To: andy@ian.stx.com
Organization: Hughes STX, Lanham, MD
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:32:31 GMT

I recently bought Mike Oldfield's _Tubular Bells 2_ on CD, took it
home, and popped it in my Panasonic SL-NP500 portable CD player, and
not only did it not play, it made my player act weird: it apparently
could read the basic "directory" info because I could display the
total time and number of tracks when I pressed STOP, but as it tried
to play track 1 (or any other track for that matter) the head would
move to a position, the disc would *speed up* (I could both see and
hear this), and after a few seconds the head would reposition and the
whole thing would happen again.  Even when I finally gave up and
pressed STOP the display would shut off, but the disk wouldn't be
stopped as it usually is, but would spin down by friction.  Weird!

I should note that I've played over 60 CDs on this player and never
had a single problem.  I brought the _TB2_ CD back to Tower and asked
them to try it on one of their players, and the salesperson did try
it (on a fancy laserdisk job), and it played fine.  Any thoughts on
what happened here?

p.s.  I bought _TB2_ on tape and it is excellent, esp. for fans of the
original _Tubular Bells_...
-- 
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From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Just Say Yesterday, Laid Back
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:39:12 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

In article <38620@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> miliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (zaphod beeblebrox) writes:
>10 minutes less and almost twice the cost compared to previous CDs
>in the Just Say XXX series.  BLAH!
>			Zaphod


Okay, go find "Nowhere Girl", "One Step Beyond", "Pop Muzik", and 
"Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" somewhere else for $15 !!!

This isn't a flame...for me, I was overjoyed to pay full price to
get these songs...I feared I'd *never* locate the above on CD.  I
like the rest of 'em too.

I just hope that this doesn't mean they've run out of new stuff
to put on the Just Say Yes series...I've collected it religiously
since the first disc.  Few other samplers are so pleasing right
out of the box.

Clint :)
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From: buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby)
Subject: Re: Help with BST?
Keywords: Blood, sweat, tears, bass
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 18:46:23 EDT

mlaurenc@world.std.com (Matt Laurence) writes:

> I'm looking DESPERATELY for Blood Sweat and Tears on CD, particularly
> the albums Nuclear Blues and Brand New Day. Neither are terribly
> easy to find even on vinyl or cassette, but I was wondering if
> perhaps anyone knows if they've been reissued on CD anywhere,
> anyhow? Actually, any other of BSTs albums would be nice too.
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> Matt

 Obviously, the first three BST records are on CD, as well as their 
greatest hits album and "Live And Improvised," a concert recording from 
1975.  Any decent record store should have these.
  Unfortunately, you can pretty much forget about seeing any of the other 
BST albums on CD, as they've all been out of print for a long time even on 
vinyl.  Some of the Columbia records might be released eventually (might 
already have been released in Japan, in fact), but the two albums you 
mention were recorded for other labels and are almost certainly gone for 
good.  Sorry if this post isn't very uplifting- I'm not the world's 
biggest BST fan, and I could be wrong.

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From: jjjbokma@cs.ruu.nl (John Bokma)
Subject: Lyrics, Stranglers and Toy Dolls
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:00:35 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: lyrics

Can somebody please mail me lyrics from Toy Dolls and the Stranglers??
(I have no ftp access)

Please mail: jjjbokma@cs.ruu.nl

Thanks,

       John
From: bamn@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: BMG Club Membership info>>?
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:45:52 GMT
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)

Hi,
This is for you BMG club members out there-
is it possible to join the club through one 
of their 9-10 CD's for the price of one again 
after fulfilling yur requirement to purchase the
one CD at their regular price and discontinuing the
membership???
i.e. Can you keep getting 9-10 cd's for the price of one
again and again?!!
Thanks
Naren
Dept. of Chemical Engr.
Yale University
I>I>
From: vick@Sofia.docs.uu.se (Mikael Lundgren)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Old portable CD-player repair.
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:23:31 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sofia.docs.uu.se

A while ago I bought a JVC portable CD player almost for
free from a friend. He claimed that he'd dropped it once
to the ground, and it's been non-reliable since then.

The problem: It works just fine whenever it manages to read
the directory of the disk, but if it doesn't, the head
oscillates with a sort of humming sound. The way to 'fix'
this, as my friend indicated' was to give the unit a quick
and hard poke on the side. 
Upon studying the units' behavior, it seems to change the
RPM after each poke slightly, so my guesses are:

* There's something wrong with the speed regulation.
  (Probably mechanical)
* The read-head is off-target slightly.

Inside the lid is a magnetic 'wheel' which attaches to
the wheel which gives motion to the disc, via magnetic
means when the lid is closed, and perhaps the friction
becomes too high if it's off target.

Suggestions? Thanks in advance,


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From: bamn@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Do CD's degrade?
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:27:59 GMT
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)

In article <1230@grun.is>, gardar@grun.is (Gardar Runolfsson) writes:
> rtsumn01@ulkyvx03.louisville.edu (Shaitan) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Sep23.165253.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, pols051@csc.canterbury.ac.nz               writes...
>>>A month or so ago I read a claim in a student newspaper here in New Zealand
>>>that CD's may begin to degrade after perhaps 7-8 years.   Is there any
>>>foundation to this, or is it just a baseless rumour?
> 
>>I don't know if CDs degrade, but I've heard the rumor also.  I have been told
>>this:  CDs do warp after a period of time if they aren't stored upright.  This
>>makes sense to me, since storage horizontally puts weight towards the outer
>>regions of the CD.  The result is supposedly "warped digital."
> 
> I have never heard about this storage problem. I however read in a local
> newpaper (qouting Financial Times) warning against usage of CD-roms as
> a long term storage (archive) media because they would only last 10-12 years.
> After that time the error correction system could not cope with the 
> deterioration. They however claimed that as a music storage system they
> should last longer because of better error correction (don't ask me>-}).
> I think they last longer as music storage because the music buying public
> will not detect the deterioration until the CD player refuses to play the
> disc.
> 
> I believe that this deterioration has something to do with oxigen
> getting through the plastic of the CD.
> 
> I for one have not yet heard a CD player which outperforms my analog
> hi-fi system and have therefore not bothered to jump on the "BUY CD"
> wagon. The only problem with that attitude is the limited availability
> of vinil today. I would however prefer to stop buying new music than
> buy something which lasts 12-20 years.

these are unsubstantiated rumours that refuse to die. the only way a cd
can "go bad" is if it was not sealed properly during manufacture and
/or the seal was later punctured causing the reflective layer of aluminium to
oxidize. ( very very rare). i dont think that there is any doubt
as to the life of a cd outlasting any of the previous recording formats.
if properly maintained, it should last forever! (for all practical purposes)

naren
dept. of chemical engr.
yale university

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From: jjyyjj@mixcom.com (Thomas Mueller)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Soundtrack
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 00:49:37 GMT

In article <Oct.5.18.17.26.1992.5260@andromeda.rutgers.edu> detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio) writes:
>The soundtrack by Vangelis has NEVER been released to the best
>of my knowledge, I have been looking for it for years.  I do not
>even think it is on import.

I have in my hands, and in my CD player, "Themes" by Vangelis.  It was
put out by Polydor, number 839 518-2.  It contains the following tracks,
some of which may be of interest to Bladerunner fans.

 1. End titles from "Bladerunner"
 2. Main theme from "Missing"
 3. L'enfant
 4. Hymn
 5. Chung Kuo
 6. The Tao of Love
 7. Theme from "Antarctica"
 8. Love theme from "Bladerunner"
 9. Opening titles from "The Bounty"
10. Closing titles from "The Bounty"
11. Memories of Green
12. La Petite Fille de la Mer
13. Five Circles
14. Chariots of Fire

Obviously, tracks one and eight are in Bladerunner.  I think track 11 is
also used in the movie, but I haven't seen the movie in a while and I can't
remember for sure.  I used to own, but seem to have misplaced, a CD of the
New American Orchestra (?) performing some of the pieces Vangelis wrote.
The versions on the Vangelis CD are far superior, in my opinion.  And the
other "themes" aren't all that horrible either, if you're trying to justify
picking up this CD for just two or three songs.

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