From: claire@wixer.cactus.org (Claire Benedikt)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Re: Space Madness pins down Furries
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:47:31 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <1992Oct13.191051.22814@wixer.cactus.org> rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo) writes:
>
>Well, you could try space madness.  If you degrade a female character there,
>you get brutally slaughtered, your client is reconnected to ChargenMUD, your
>root password is hacked and your credit rating mysteriously falls through the
>floor.
>

 If you do *anything* on Space Madness, you get brutally slaughtered, your
client is reconnected to ChargenMUD, etc etc.  But hey, it's fun. 


[Jason Bellew writes...]
>> I offer AfterFive as a point.  Around 40% of the 
>>people I see on there have no description.

 Actually, AfterFive now has an online training session that newbies walk
 through that tells them how to set their description, lock themselves, etc,
 and has them do it right then and there.  It's sort of 'required' -- you
 certainly can't walk ten feet with something missing without someone telling
 you to go back through training and get it all done.  It's effective.

[Jason Bellew writes...]
>>  How do you interact with someone
>>if you don't know anything about them?
>

 We can go a little deeper here can't we?   You never know who you're dealing
 with on a MUD.  You only know what that person gives you to know.  If they
 tell you that they're female and a sophomore at Duke, you have to accept that.
 You have to go along with it, don't you.  If they tell you nothing but what
 is given in their description, whatever it may be, you have to deal with
 *that* -- that is the reality you are offered, and that therefore becomes your
 only choice for reality.  Sure, you can ask them more about who they are, 
 you can even get an email address and finger them, but anyone can borrow an 
 account, or get one that is anonymous.  The disguises comes in the thousands.
 Believe me, I know.  (grin)

 So, Jason Bellew, MUDs are always interacting with a population
 you don't know anything about. 

[Back to Felix...] 
>You...interact with them in the attempt to learn something about them.  What
>does having six melon-sized breasts tell you about the guy who plays Hervystia?
>I mean, besides the bit about falling on head as child, etc.
>

 Hervystia doesn't have six melon sized breasts.  That's squeak.  Geeeez.


>>>Tater says "and they have these page-long descriptions that have lots of
>> references to "sleek thighs" and "firm, rosy-nippled breasts" and stuff. 
>> hence of course you know that 99 of furries are guys"
>

 I think I stopped reading FurryMUCK descriptions late '91.  ;)


>
>>>Tater says "most RL females play MALE furries so as not to get constantly hit
>> on by RL guys playing VR males and RL guys playing VR lesbians."
>>
>>Umm...mind giving me an example? As in a character name, and the players name,
>>phone number, and address? Don't believe everything you are told.  It's not 
>>good.  And another point.  Virtual reality does not equal real life, no 
>>matter how much we might wish it at times.
>
>There isn't any way in hell I'm giving you my phone number and address,
>Mr. Sharon D. Clark, but I happen to live with one of the more famous furry
>players (she's recovering nicely, thank you); she often plays male characters
>for just that reason.
>

  Ahem.


>>>Tater hates furries
>>
>>Yes, so I've noted.  You're also a little twerp who can't handle someone
>>being different.
>
>There's 'different' and there's 'lobotomized'.
>

 Daringly, I still maintain that Furry people are merely 'different.'


>>>Randomness has nothing against furries, but does mind being harassed for
>> being insufficiently cute.
>>

  Randomness, are you serious?   The only person I've ever seen harrass anyone
 for not being cute is, funnily enough, Hervystia.  And he was trying to be
 funny.  Huh.




>Funny, I don't remember being surveyed for your statement on _most_ users
>on the Internet.  I find your naivete refreshing, however.  I'm sure everyone
>at the various large commercial organizations and military and bureaucratic
>installations who started the network itself are somewhat surprised to hear
>that they learned about it when they were in college at the age of 22; I'm
>also astounded that you have the idea that the Internet is a plaything for
>college freshmen and sophomores.
>
  
 Hear hear.

>>>[dirque makes some howling comment about teasing hervestia(sic) about
>>>her six melon sized breasts, "ahahahahahah"]
>>
>>And now the truth comes out.  You like to be a twit. 

 And now the truth comes out.  You can't see that dirque was being
 funny and sarcastic.  I know he was addressing something personal and 
 special to you, and I know that you are immediately put on the 
 defensive therefore, but be careful.


>And just to clear it up, Hervyestia is female.

 Sorry, Jason, he's not.  I've met him, face to face.  I have photos.
 I have his RL name.  I have his phone number.  Etc etc etc.  :)



>>Jason Ballew
>>Bregalad/FurryMuck
>>Brianna/FurryMuck
>>Zarkon/TimeTraveller
>>Briana/TimeTraveller
>>Jason/AfterFive
>>Brianna/AfterFive
>>Z'kon/PernMush
>>Bregalad/TinyTim (if it comes up)
>>Auzmen/PernMush
>>Jayson/Soucon
>>Erych/DragonsFire
>

 
 Be glad I don't sign my posts like the above,
 Claire