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From: akif@sequent.com (Aki Fleshler)
Subject: Re: Aikido in Ann Arbor
Followup-To:  Bidlackhw@falcon.usafa.af.mil (Harold W. Bidlack)
Summary:  Is there an Aikido Dojo in Ann Arbor, Mich?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:56:23 GMT

Bidlackhw@falcon.usafa.af.mil writes:
> Does anyone know if there is an active Aikido group in Ann Arbor, Michigan?

I recommend: 

		Great Lakes Aikikai
		212 S 4th Ave, Suite 209
		Ann Arbor MI 48104

		Sensei Tsuyoshi Okuyama, Chief Instructor

				4th Dan, Shidoin, Aikido 
				(US Aikido Federation, Western Region)

				5th Dan, Iaido
				(Chief Instructor, Tesso-Kai (= Muso Shinden Ryu))


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From: acharya@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Karate Kata question: tekki series
Date: 5 Jan 1993 15:51:29 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: acharya@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
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i have a question about shotokan tekki shodan, nidan and sandan.

the movement for tekki shodan is more or less left/right. is that the 
same for tekki nidan as well as tekki sandan?

(by left/right i mean if i were facing north, all my movement would be
along east-west).

also, if this is any help i think that the okinawa version of the tekki
series is called naihanchi.

thanks,

mukund
From: pierre@Autodesk.COM (Pierre Malraison)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: TaiChi in cambridge England
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:14:24 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

I will be in 
Cambridge England 1/31 to 2/5.
I have been studying Chen Man Ching style Yang 
Taichi for about 2 years. Any classes/practice groups/
interested individuals. I'm gonna be mostly busy
but early morning or evenings should be free.

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Pierre Malraison
U.S. Snail: Autodesk ,Inc. 2320 Marinship Way,Sausalito CA 94965
e-mail:         pierre@autodesk.com
Opinions expressed above purely personal.
From: gkahn@anagld.analytics.com (Gary Kahn)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Taiji question - long form versus short forms
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:37:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation - Systems Engineering Division

sc1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Chan) writes:

>	Given that you could get equivalent instruction, is the long
>form better for practice or would it be better to have a short form,
>so that you can concentrate on basics?

In my opinion, either a long form or a short form is only a means
to the end of beginning to master the movements and principles.
Taiji does not end with the form, but BEGINS with the form.  The
length of the form, whether short or long, is not an impediment to
concentrating on the basics.  An hour of proper practice with proper
instruction can give the same benefit whether the form is short or
long.  Also, learning the short followed by the long, or the long
followed by the short form, is fairly easy.  A serious student often
ends up doing both at one point or another, but it's not necessary.
All in my opinion, of course, as a beginner who's been practicing
it for about 12 years.  The important thing is to do the form that
your current teacher does.

Gary Kahn
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Subject: Re: Anyone practice Gracie?
From: jlockha@eis.calstate.edu (Jame A Lockhart)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:58:42 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

ap932@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Larry Cuy) writes:
> 
> 
> Having watched some Gracie videos (Action 2 and instructional
> tapes) I'm wondering if anyone on the net actually has been
> trained in Gracie and if it is as effective as claimed. The
> tapes which seem to show actual street fighting are somewhat
> convincing. I know, all of you that believe in keeping on your
> feet distain going to the ground or that possibility but htat
> seems to be the reality in many real life situations. Gracie
> seems to have a straightforward method of dealing with that
> eventuality. Comments from those that have practiced Gracie?
>

There is a guy in my complex that claims to have been neighbors to the
Gracie Family in Brazil.  He also claims to have trained with them for 9
years.

He says that their system is rough and rugged and that the Gracies are
psycho's that are out to hurt people.  He also says that they are
unbeaten.  According to this person, their training and diet are
unconventional (fruits and veggies only - no sheduled meals - and they
train (strength) solely with body weight).

Any other info?
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From: gperkins@netcom.com (Glen C. Perkins)
Subject: Re: Transliterating Chinese (was Re: Well, well, well...)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:27:41 GMT

The choice of the letter "e" in pinyin isn't arbitrary. When a
native Mandarin speaker pronounces my name "Glen", it usually
comes out as "Glun" (rhymes with "fun"). This is whether they
are familiar with hanyu pinyin or not, so "e" seems appropriate
to me. (It doesn't always represent the same sound, but the
native speakers seem to consider all those different "e"
sounds to be the same unless they are trained linguists and can
stand back and listen with a non-native ear.
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From: ftit@potomac.engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Subject: Re: Kicking someone's xxx.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 18:10:41 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ftit@potomac.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Dec28.045618.4646@athena.mit.edu>, ras@athena.mit.edu (Richard A Shandross) writes:
|In article <ckuan.725358275@sfu.ca> ckuan@fraser.sfu.ca (Chiow Min Kuan) writes:
|
|As someone (H.G. Wells?) once said:  "Violence is the last refuge of the
|incompetant."

Asimov, I believe, in one of the Foundation novels.  Not that it has
anything to do with martial arts, but hey, it looks like I'm going to be
deprived of a life here at Engin school for another year and I don't
care who knows it.

|        Rich

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From: jmitten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James A Mitten)
Subject: Ho-I Grand Opening & Chinese New Year
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:34:43 GMT

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From: jmeyers@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jeff Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Aikido - udekimenage
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:29:19 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: psycho.ecst.csuchico.edu

In <1993Jan5.165234.3309@cs.brown.edu> tac@cs.brown.edu (Ted A. Camus) writes:


>   I would like a translation of the throw udekimenage - 
>   "arm focus throw" is the best I can come up with, but I think 
>   that "kime" might mean something else in this context.

It has been my experience that it is dificult to get an accurate
translation without the original kanji.  Since there are so many
homonyms (sp?) in Japanese, without the kanji you can just look
through all the meanings and pick the ones that fit.

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From: gints@prophet.esd.sgi.com (Gints Klimanis)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Re: MOTHER PICKS UP CAR
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:10:42 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: prophet.esd.sgi.com

In article <C0E5CM.6GJ@newcastle.ac.uk>, N.C.Thomas@newcastle.ac.uk (N C
Thomas) writes:
|> In the replies to the above posting a few people state that
|> the muscles of the body have more strength than they are
|> allowed to exert. This is said to occur by unconcious control
|> which swithches off the muscle to prevent injury through exertion.
|> 
|> Is the unconcious control, alledged to be affected by PCP, not the
|> same control as that exploited by martial artists when using PNF for
|> stretching exercises? The technique fools the muscle that it is over
|> stretched by triggering the proprioceptors, causing it to relax and
|> allowing further streching to take place. Does PCP affect the
|> Proprio-
|> ceptors and could it assist in a stretching programme (not that I'm
|> willing to try it!)    

What is P.N.F?

Please tell me.   Sounds interesting.
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: moore@esseye.si.com (David Moore)
Subject: Re: Karate Kata question: tekki series
Organization: Smiths Industries
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:01:41 GMT

I have seen the stance of tekki (or naifanchi or naihanchi) take on
at least two different variations. There appears to be a naihanchi-dachi
stance which some refer to as an hour glass stance or modified sanchin
stance. The other variation is kibidachi or horse stance. In the former,
the knees are slightly bent inward and the feet are angled inward, whereas
the latter has a stance with the feet parallel and pointed forward with
the knees slightly inward (as if trying to press the neck/back of a 
horse)

-- 
David Moore                    | moore@si.com
Smiths Industries              |
Grand Rapids Michigan          | my comments are my own -- not my employers'.
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: cf@fokus.gmd.de (C. Fuhrhop)
Subject: Videos on Aikido  
   
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:34:13 GMT

Thanks a lot in advance,
Wolfgang Wuerz

Please send your replies to wuerz-w@vax.hmi.dbp.de, because I'm
posting that from a friend, who's not subscribing martial-arts
(and so wouldn't notice any REPLIES on my letter).
 
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: leos@wolf.cs.washington.edu (Leo Salemann)
Subject: SEMINAR @ Seattle Aikikai
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 10:20:59 GMT

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           Saturday, Jan. 30 & Sunday, Jan. 31, 1993

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From: wut@acf3.NYU.EDU (Tom Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Car Jack
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:45:00 GMT
Organization: New York University



	I've heard that here in N.Y. they have tried some sort of
electrical seat mat for yellow cab. At the press of a button, the
cab driver would be able to jolt his passenger(supposedly robbers)
with enough electricity to partially paralyze him/her. But they
scratched that idea very quickly, due to accidental discharge.
AOOOHCH.... I don't want to sit in one of those cabs.

	I guess the same goes for the spring loaded shot gun.



				---Tom
 
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM (David Scheid)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: pinyin
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:06:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Reply-To: scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: danzan.ebay.sun.com

In article 6x1@CAM.ORG, renault@CAM.ORG (Pierre Renault) writes:
>OK, this should be fun...
>
>an "x" is a mediolingual mute fricative consonant.
>
>a "j" is a postligual mute non-aspired occlusive and non aspired fricative.
>
>Easy, no?
>
>Of course, that only applies in Beijing mandarin...

Is this the beginning of a new flame war? 

Was someone just insulted?

What language is the above - (sorry, any suggestions come out
derogative).

---
Dave Scheid - All Disclaimers Apply
From: scottb@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Scott Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Building a Aikido dojo
Keywords: Aikido dojo
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:11:50 GMT
Reply-To: scottb@sail.LABS.TEK.COM
Followup-To: sender
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

My Aikido club is in the planning stages of building a new
dojo in a building which currently has a concrete floor.

My question is about construction of a floor/mat suitable
for Aikido break-falls.  Probably some sort of framework/
plywood structure over a shock-absorbing underlayment.

I'd like any advice from anyone with practical knowledge of
building aikido dojo floors.

Thanks:
Scott Baker                                   scottb@sail.labs.tek.com
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From: Seth.Morris@launchpad.unc.edu (Seth Morris)
Subject: I am looking for exercises on relaxation, comcentration, etc.
Summary: I am looking for brain and relaxation exercises of all types.
Keywords: autogenics, relaxation, yoga, exercises
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:02:33 GMT

 
 I am compiling a collection of exercises for relaxation, concentration, 
memory, perception, creativity, etc. My material covers a wide range of
matter, and I am looking for more. 
 I posted a lengthy request to several groups and someone suggested I ask
here.
 
 My request is for comments, suggestions, advice, caveats, and especially
exercises and sources relating to relaxations, affirmation, visualization
(which I prefer to call "virtualization" unles the focus is on visual stimuli)
and other Intelligence Increase components of the SMIILE formula.
 My material currently reflects my bias towards the Leary/Wilson/Hyatt/Falcon
Press/Alli school of thought, although I would appreciate material from any
source.
 
 I mark the exercises as working Visualization Technique, Memory, 
Concentration, "Multitasking" (the mental aptitude 
for doing more than one thing at once), Perception, Self-Awareness/Emotion, 
Set-Breaking/Dis-associating,Association-Making/Imprinting (learning how to
learn), Creativity, and Somatic Control (currently, this relates to breathing,
but I'm open).
 
 My sources range from _Superlearning_ by Ostrander and Schroeder to _Angel
Tech_ by Alli to _Psychological Exercises and Essays_ by Orage.
 I'm always looking for more.
 
 I am especially interested in the exercises from Raja Yoga I have, and would
like pointers to more information.
 
 I would appreciate any contact by mail (preferred) and will continue to
read these groups.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Seth Morris (seth.morris@launchpad.unc.edu)
 
 



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From: todd@deepspace.ucsb.edu (Todd Gaier)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Gracie
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:15:43 GMT
Organization: Astophysics-UCSB

I posted a summary of the Gracie Jujutsu here a few months ago, but nobody 
seemed to be interested in it... So, here we go again. I practiced it for 2 
years, and participated in 2 tournaments. If you want to see how it (more or 
less) looks like, and how it is to confront someone skilled in this style, 
watch the final fight of the movie "Lethal Weapon I". Carson (is it his 
first name?) Gracie coreographed it, and Mel Gibson fights pretty much like 
three of my old dojo mates. I've seen (and "joined" some street fights in 
Rio ending like that. The final movement, with a scissors lock (I don't know 
how someone would call that position...) using both legs and choking his 
oponent is quite simple, and one learns it after leaving the white belt 
level.

From what I learned, the Gracie students are trained to be really agressive 
when fighting. They learn to resist to pain and "bridge the gap" to the 
oponent very quickly. Although it's not the state-of-art in upstanding 
fight, in the sense that it doesn't feature a lot of different kicks, or 
different hand techniques - there are more effective styles if you don't 
want fight on the ground - when it comes to fight on the ground, as far as I 
know, there's nothing compared to Gracie Jujutsu. I come from a judo 
background myself, and after studying the Gracie jujutsu, I had to move to 
another town, and went back to judo. Well, I was an orange belt at that 
time, and I went to a famous dojo in Brazil, featuring 2 Olimpic 
participants (one silver medalist), an Army Forces World Champion, and 2 Pan-
American champions. Lots of good judokas, 95% brown and black belts, and 
actively participating in all kinds of competitions and tournaments. Well, I 
was allowed to train along with them because few of them were able to keep up
with me in a ne-waza (ground training).

The bottom line is: if you fall during a street fight, nothing can help you 
better than some knowledge of Gracie tecniques... Well, maybe a Magnum 9mm 
in your hands and ready to shoot :-) .

If you want to send mails to my personal address, feel free to do it!

Alex Wuensche.
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: gperkins@netcom.com (Glen C. Perkins)
Subject: Re: T'ai Chi or Pa Kua in Palo Alto area
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:41:20 GMT

poore@dirac.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.083528.10132@netcom.com> gperkins@netcom.com (Glen C. Perkins) writes:
>>Maybe I should just become independently wealthy and move to Beijing
>>to study for a decade or so. NOT.

>Right.

>I think you'd be better off in Taipei instead.

>David Poore
>poore@dirac.scri.fsu.edu

In fact, there is some possibility of my going to either
Taipei or Beijing in the future. If I could manage it, who
would I want to study with? (xingyi, bagua) (I speak
Chinese, BTW, so language is not an issue.)
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|--- Glen C. Perkins ---|                                                   |
| <gperkins@netcom.com> |             "Don't forget, your mind              |
| Native Guide Software |              only *simulates* logic."             |
| Palo Alto, California |                                                   |
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