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From: pnori@lsi-j.co.jp (Pochi NORIMATSU)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Song (Not)
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:51:42 GMT
	<1992Dec30.210303.25510@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Organization: LSI Japan Co. Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

In article <1992Dec30.210303.25510@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
|   In article <n122dt@ofa123.fidonet.org>, Jay.Majer@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
|   > 
|   > MY>   > Could someone please help me translate the following Japanese song?
|   > MY>   >
|   > MY>   >      doungan kasakuyan
|   > MY>   >      indou mu'u
|   > MY>   >      rusato uila-doa
|   [...]
|   > MY>        Is this really Japanease song?
|   > MY>        I native Japanease can't understand even a sigle sentense.
|   > 
|   > Oh really? I'm sorry then. I thought it was Japanese because it was in a
|   > Japanese movie. I guess it's not.
|
|   Maybe it is.  It sounds close enough to Japanese, even if it isn't.
|
|   The big question is:  how did you transcribe it?  If you did so by ear,
|   then mistakes *could* have been made.
|
|   Care to tell us the title of the film?  Maybe someone here recognizes
|   the song...

I think that the title of the film is 'Godzilla vs. Mothla'. (I'm not
sure about spelling of Mothla. It's a monster of moth.) The song is
sang by twin little beauties in island called Infant. It is a Japanese
movie but the song is a pseudo-foreign-language-song and we Japanese
can't understand :-)
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Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: anil@CS.TITECH.AC.JP
Subject: Re: akemashite omedetou gozaimasu
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:17:10 GMT

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From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Cases in Japanese (Was: Re: THE QUICK AND DIRTY ...)
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:00:49 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <1993Jan11.222615.22077@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
>I can think of
>simple ways to achieve the proper connotation of "sakana wa unagi ga
>ii" by changing the stress on the English sentence "fish like eel".

This is fascinating.  You have assigned a meaning to this sentence which is
nothing like what I has in mind (but which is not necessarily any less valid).
The meaning I had in mind was something like: "Among all varieties of fish,
eel is a good variety."  This is a long way from "Fish like eel."

>So, as for me, these "as for me" sentences do
>not sound smooth or very proper either. Take a sampling of native
>English speaker writing found on USENET outside this thread on this
>newsgroup and I doubt you'll find many sentences starting with "as for
>me"

As for me, you are agreed with.  My comment was limited to this particular
example.  What suggestions do you have for expressing the given idea
naturally in English ("Fish like eel" disqualified for reasons stated above)?
Feel free to specify patterns of stress and intonation.
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From: mgn@cup.portal.com (Mike G Newman)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Japanese For Everyone CD (MAC)
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 01:21:17 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

When I called Educorp to order the Japanese For Everyone CD-ROM
I was informed that it is not compatible with System 7.  This
doesn't bother me, but for folks running system 7 who don't want to
deal with System Switcher, it is a major consideration.

Can anyone comment on this?  What happens under System 7.0?  How
could anyone develop CD-ROM software not caompatible with Sys 7?

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From: knowles@FNALNM.FNAL.GOV
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Company Information
Date: 9 Jan 1993 19:59:06 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Reply-To: knowles@FNALNM.FNAL.GOV
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalnm.fnal.gov

AKEMASHITE OMEDETOU GOZIAMASU:

Hello all and Happy New Year:

Can anyone give me information regarding AEON Corporation?  They
advertised locally looking for english teachers to live in Japan.
I wonder (a) What sort of organization are they? (Solidity)
(b) Do they pay reasonably or would a prospective teacher need
to live like a church-mouse. (c) any other comments.

Please reply to E-Mail to keep the net traffic down.

DOMO ARIGATOU

"KANE AREBA BAKA MO DANNA"        | Rich Knowles/Fermilab
            - Kotowaza            | knowles@fnalo.fnal.gov
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From: nakano@suncom1.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp (NAKANO Yasuaki)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Informations
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:56:41 GMT
Reply-To: nakano@suncom1.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp (NAKANO Yasuaki)
Organization: Dept. of Information Engineering, Shinshu Univ.,500 wakasato, Nagano, Japan

In article <9212281547.AA12037@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> JKICHIOK@BRFUEM.BITNET (Jorge Prado) writes:
> HI, I GOT A TABLE OF MEASUREMENTS BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
> IS THAT CORRECT? HOW ABOUT THE CONVERTION IN AMERICAN MEASURE?

First, I want to point the following fact to you. Japan has adopted metric
system for more than one hundred years. The units you cited are traditional
units, but it is illegal to use them in trade. Many units become obsolete.

> 1) MEASURE OF LENGTH (FOR CLOTH, ETC)
>    1 BU =
>    10 BU = 1 SUN
>    10 SUN = 1 SHAKU
>    10 SHAKU = 1 JO

Correct. 1 SYAKU = 0.303 meters, or about one foot. For you information,
10 MOU = 1 RIN and 10 RIN = 1 BU. 
There were two standards for length. The value for SYAKU above is so-called
KANEZYAKU (carpenter's SYAKU), and the other is KUZIRAZYAKU (whale SYAKU).
I remember that 1 KUZIRAZYAKU = 1.25 KANEZYAKU.

>    1 TAN = VARIES FROM 2 JO 8 SHAKU UP TO 4 JO
>    1 HIKI = 2 TAN (50 TO 80 SHAKU)
>    1 RYO = 1 HIKI OR 2 TAN

I am not sure regarding them.

> 2) CAPACITY
>    1 TSUBU (OR KA) =
>    1 SATSU =
>    10 SATSU = 1 SAI

I have not heard of these units.

>    10 SAI = 1 SHAKU
>    10 SHAKU = 1 GO
>    10 GO = 1 SHO
>    10 SHO = 1 TO
>    10 TO = 1 KOKU

Correct. 1 SYOU = 1.8 litre.

>    1 WA (OR TABA) =
>    1 SOKU (OR TSUKA) =

I think they were related to rice, but I am not sure.

>    1 HYO =

1 HYOU = 0.4 KOKU (when used to measure rice).

>   VARIABLES
>    1 TAN =
>    1 I =
>    1 KAGO =

I have not heard of these units.

> 3) WEIGHT
>    12 BU = 1 SHU
>    24 SHU = 1 RYO
>    16 RYO = 1 KIN
>    1 MOCHI = 10 RYO
>    1 KO =

I have not heard of these units. BU, SYU and RYOU were used as the units
of coinage (see below). These units might have come from weight units.

> 4) LINEAR MEASURE
>    1 CHO = 60 KEN
>    1 RI = 36 CHO

Correct. Since 1 KEN = 6 SYAKU (about 1.8 meters), 1 RI = 4 kilometers. 

> 5) AREA
>    1 TAN =
>    1 CHO =

1 TUBO = 1 KEN SQUARE, or 3.3 square meters. 30 TUBO = 1 SE, 10 SE = 1 TAN,
and 10 TAN = 1 TYOU (10,000 square meters).

> 6) COINAGE
>    1 MON
>    1 KAN

In Edo era (1600-1867), three coinage systems were used; gold, silver
and cupper ones. Since the values of these metals had been changing day
by day, the exchange rates were established in the market.

MON and KAN were cupper coinage units and were used in Kamakuara, Muromati
and Edo periods (about 1200 - 1867). 1000 MON = 1 KAN. They were also used
as weight units, where 1000 MONME = 1 KAN, and 1 KAN = 3.75 kilogrammes.
The weight of 1 KAN corresponded to one thousand cupper coins.

BU, SYU and RYOU were the units of gold coinage, where 4 SYU = 1 BU,
4 BU = 1 RYOU. I don't know the value of 1 RYOU.

I forget about the silver coinage.

Yasuaki NAKANO
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: AXJLC@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU (Jared Gedlaman)
Subject: RE: Japanese baseball (fwd)
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01: 54:37 TZONE
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:55:18 GMT

The Suns lost to the Spurs.  You should have heard what Sir Charles
had to say!!!

Jared Gedlaman
Finance/Japanese Major
Arizona State University
Tempe, Arizona, USA
From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: Anyone know of a JIS reader/displayer program for Amiga?
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:43:49 GMT

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    I find it hard to read any of the fj.* newsgroups without a JIS reader.
However, I only have an Amiga.  Is there any kind of JIS display/editing
program out there I can get?

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From: mduerst@IFI.UNIZH.CH ("Martin J. Duerst")
Subject: Re: Mac system 7.1
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:42:34 GMT

In article <9301050411.AA04822@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>, you write:
> Can anyone answer this question:  Using system 7.1, and writing on Microsoft
> Word 5.1 in English, how would it be possible to enter Japanenese text
> directly into the document (and have it print correctly) -- for example, if
> one would typing a Japanese/English dictionary and needed to have both.
> Also, what happens with "styles" when one shifts from one language to another
> in MS Word?

In some cases (just two or three kanji in an English text or so), a
workaround for the problem that most word processors don't get the length
of kanji correctly is to use graphics. You take any graphical editor, write
your kanji, and copy/paste them into your text as graphics.
For this to work, there are several conditions:
1) The graphics editor has to be kanji-proof (not all are, but more
   than word processors). The builtin graphics editor of MSWord is!
2) The word processor has to permit inline graphics (MSWord does).
3) The size of the graphics with your kanji and their font size has to
   be adjusted carefully to make English and Kanji fit together and line
   widths stay as they are. Needs some trial and error.
Not a perfect solution, but more than nothing and a good workaroud in many
cases.

Martin.

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From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Cases in Japanese (Was: Re: THE QUICK AND DIRTY ...)
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:38:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: gibdo.1993Jan11.222615.22077
Organization: unaffiliated
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In article <2623@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.124944.25230@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>
>>BTW: does "As for fish, eel is good." count as a proper or good
>>English sentence?
>
>It actually doesn't sound too bad to me.  Offhand I can't think a smoother
>way to express this idea.

I have to mildly disagree. This entire discussion is taking place in
the context of written language. In Japanese language pitch accent
rarely, if ever, affects the connotation of a sentence. In English
stress accent can greatly affect the connotation. I can think of
simple ways to achieve the proper connotation of "sakana wa unagi ga
ii" by changing the stress on the English sentence "fish like eel". In
fact, it is very common for Japanese language to use particles and
other explicit hints as to connotation where in English only the
stress would change.  So, as for me, these "as for me" sentences do
not sound smooth or very proper either. Take a sampling of native
English speaker writing found on USENET outside this thread on this
newsgroup and I doubt you'll find many sentences starting with "as for
me"

In a discussion taken place in written form we should be indicating
English stress accent or we are losing one important component of the
language that is necessary for a successful rendering into English.
And rendering "wa" into English is often a matter of stress accent,
so it is particularly necessary when discussing this particle.


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From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: The Quick and Dirty Guide to Japanese
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:46:00 GMT
Organization: unaffiliated
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan5.161738.7584@elsevier.nl> nico@elsevier.nl (Nico Poppelier) writes:
>Christmas holiday gave me ample time to read "The Quick and
>Dirty Guide to Japanese" by Tad Perry. Please find my
>comments below.
>
>First, some minor points:
>- The "X kara Y made" construction is missing.
>- Sentence-final "ka" is normally used for questions.
>  In this Guide it looks as if rising intonation is implied.
>- There is no explanation (at least: I couldn't find it)
>  of "no". There are, however, examples, with "no":
>  "Sono ato no eiga wa?".
>
>Second, the stylization of the sentences in this Guide is 
>normal, not polite, i.e. sentences end in "iku", "ikanai",
>etc. In my opinion, every foreigner who wants to learn
>Japanese and use it in conversation, should use the polite
>stylization with "masu", "masen", "mashita" etc. 
>The style advocated in this Guide is maybe OK among friends
>but not in a shop, in a job interview, in the street asking
>for directions, ...

The information needed to conjugate any of the simulated conversations
can be found at the back. Style was perfectly correct for the context
in which those discussions took place so it wouldn't make sense to
change them. The best thing I could do is add a short note on when
-masu forms should be preferred over informal ones. And lastly, you
may be able to rattle off a long *list* of situations in which formal
speech is more common, but informal speech (if you're speaking
correctly) will take up 90% of your daily *production* if you live in
Japan for any considerable length of time and lead a lifestyle similar
to a typical Japanese person.


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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: MTV; strange sign
Keywords: tv, japan, lang
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:56:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.225520.22310@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>In article <sjoerd.725794992@freyr> sjoerd@eri.research.ptt.nl (Sjoerd Roorda) writes:
>>The commercial is by Nike and stars 'Air' Jordan and some monster, playing 
>>basket ball. In the very first part there is a greenisch neon sign with a
>>japanese text on it. The commercial is shown very regularely on MTV (europe), 
>>but I guess it will be shown on a lot of other networks as well.

>It's not Jordan, but Charles Bigmouth Barkley blown up 50 times in size.
>The monster, of course, is Godzilla (with sunglasses on).
>Barkley elbows Godzilla and scores a basket, though he should be
>clearly ruled of a charging foul.

Ha! Shows what you know. Elbowing in the low post is NOT a foul in the NBA if 
you are averaging over 20 points and 10 rebounds a game.

>>Will, PLEASE, anybody help me to find out what this message says?
>
>Message? What message?
># OK, I'll try looking it up the next time.

A little off track, but this is not the first commercial venture for ol' 
Godzilla. When I was in Japan, there was a clip of Godzilla smashing downtown
Tokyo, wreaking havoc among the tanks and jets, then lumbering off to the sea.
Final scene: an obviously well-satisfied Godzilla quaffing an ice-cold Suntory
beer after a hard day's work.

(BTW, I remember reading the sign, but it wasn't memorable enough to bear 
remembering)

Mike
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one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
From: tk81348@cs.tut.fi (Kauro Taina Kaarina)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: to all who have been in Japan
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:18:40
Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland.
Distribution: sci
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Hello,

I am making a seminar on Japanese (business) customs and
etiquette. Because I have never been in Japan, I have to
take all my information from books. Therefore I would like
to have opinions from those who have been in Japan.

I have written below some questions, and I hope that
you would answer to them and mail the answers to me 
to address
	tk81348@cs.tut.fi

You don't have to answer all the questions. If I get good answers,
I'll maybe send a summary of them into this newsgroup later on.

Some background information:
- what is your nationality?
- are you a male or a female?
- were you a tourist, a student or on a business trip to Japan?
- could you speak Japanese before you went to Japan? If not, did
  you study/learn it during your stay?

The actual questions:
- was Japan a culture shock to you? In what way?
- what was the most surprising/strangest/most awful/nicest thing
- did something funny happen, about which you could tell me? (something
  related to behaviour and customs or language)
- did your knowledge in the Japanese language help you? How much?
- what was your first impression of the Japanese people/culture/customs?
  Did it change after some time?

- did you have difficulties in trying to behave the "right way"?
- is there something good in Japan/in the Japanese people (your opinion)
- is there something bad in Japan/ in the Japanese people
- what is the most important thing you would like to tell to persons who
  are planning to go to Japan for the first time (a warning or an advice etc)

Thank you for your answers!

Taina Kauro
tk81348@cs.tut.fi

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From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Kterm--Chotto sabishii yo
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:34:55 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

In article <1993Jan9.225003.20076@leland.Stanford.EDU> , 
	underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes 
>   kterm -fl '-sony-fixed-medium-r-normal-*'

first try
   xlsfonts -fl '-sony-fixed-medium-r-normal-*'
and check fonts are there.

>   more file

Many "more" implementation strip out 8th bit or Escape. Try cat.
It may not work on EUC / Shift JIS in some work stations. Then try
JIS code.

BTW. In stanford there must be a lot of Japanese...
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Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: ryoichi@athena.mit.edu (Ryoichi Hashimoto)
Subject: Re: Informations
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:37:21 GMT

Oh! nakano san explained so well!  Did you know all of them!?

BTW,
>> 1) MEASURE OF LENGTH (FOR CLOTH, ETC)
>>    1 BU =
>>    10 BU = 1 SUN
     ......
>10 MOU = 1 RIN and 10 RIN = 1 BU. 

MOU, RIN, and BU are not units of measure.  They are the names of
dicimal orders smaller than one.
... HYAKU(100), JUU(10), ICHI(1), BU(0.1), RIN(0.01), MOU(0.001),...
e.g.,"The odds is  5BU-5BU (50-50)."

In Yedo era, some people began to use WARI to mean 0.1.  And they
used BU for 0.01, RIN for 0.001, MOU for 0.0001, ....
This caused a big confusion.  Thus Japanese gave up to use these 
decimal order names of small numbers.  However, they are still 
used as a substitute of percentage.
e.g., "You can enjoy 2 WARI 5 BU (=25%) discount!"

>4 BU = 1 RYOU. I don't know the value of 1 RYOU.

At the Maiji restoration, 1 RYOU became 1 YEN, and the exchange rate
was 1YEN = US$1.  I once heard that in Yedo era (probably the beginning
of 19th c.), a good carpenter earned 10 RYOs a month.  So, I guess
1 RYO (19th c.) ~~ several hundred US$ (1993). 

-- ryoichi
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: xinjin@athena.mit.edu (Xinjin Zhao)
Subject: Japanese Dictionary
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:54:35 GMT

I am looking for a good set of Japanese/Chinese and Chinese/Japanese
dictionaries, preferentially published in Japan.  The one I know of is called
Iwanome(?) Japanese/Chinese and Chinese/Japanese dictionary.  An alternative
would be an intermediate level Japanese/Japanese dictionary.  I would really
appreciate it if someone could tell me the addresses of some Japanese publishers
or bookstores.  Addresses at either USA or Japan would be fine, though american
distributors would be better.  

You can reply either to the net or me personally.  If I get enough responses, I
will certainly compile and post them on the net.



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From: yy@cbnews.cb.att.com (alan.j.lapenn)
Subject: Re: Japanese For Everyone - CD
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:07:37 GMT

> In article <72798@cup.portal.com> mgn@cup.portal.com (Mike G Newman) writes:
> 
>   >A recent issue of 'MangaJin' recommends the CD Japanese For Everyone
>   >as the best CAI material for Japanese.  Any comments on this or
>   >other recommendations?
> 

Please note that this CD is only available for the MAC,not the PC. They 
don't seem to have any plans to support the PC.

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