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From: mukherje@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Amit Mukherjee)
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:28:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.041645.11894@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training) writes:
> This is an age old question that still needs an answer:
> 
> If the dating-->romantic love marriage system SO SUPERIOR
> to the arranged marriage system then how come:
> 
> 	(1)  About 50% of US marriages end up in divorce (didn't
> 		the couple KNOW their partner pretty well?).  Why
> 		are so many love marriages still together but
> 		devoid of love and caring?  (Can it be that
> 		romantic love is NOT permanent?  Can it be that
> 		the success of failure of a marriage has nothing to
> 		with how the two "met"?)
> 
> 	(2)  So many wives in the US are controlled, beaten, emotionally
> 		abused and raped if they were so WISE as to CHOOSE and KNOW
> 		their mate before marriage.
> 
> Either the above two remarks are false, or the above two remarks
> are much stronger for arranged marriages.  I say that they are
> not.  If the profile of the resulting marriages from each system
> is not different, then how can using either method be of any consequence?
> 
> Perhaps some intelligent IIWs can enlighten my simple "MCP" mind with
> some concrete facts/argument as opposed to spewing feminist rhetoric.
> 
> Come on, I dare yas!
> 
> --Surajit Mukheree (a.k.a. O.P., the Original Poster)

You must have received a lot of standard answers to your questions mostly to 
the effect that the lack of financial independence and lifelong submissive
conditioning force Indian women to accept bad marriages. This accounts for
the seemingly better statistics for arranged marriages. Since you have asked
for an insight on this issue, IMHO, the success of a marriage depends almost
entirely on the personalities of the people involved. If the partners are
caring, considerate and understanding people, the marriage will work out
in most cases, irrespective of how it is setup. On the other hand abrasive
and egotistical people will have problems sooner or later. Love marriages
have the advantage that the couple know each other and also have some affection
for each other. This provides a good starting point, a foundation, to build a
happy marriage because the couple are more tolerant of each other's shortcomingsbut then there are no guarantees as you have observed. The success of a marriagerequires a lot of effort from both the partners and that holds true for both
love and arranged marriages.

Amit Mukherjee
From: nadusume@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Nagendra Adusumelli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:35:43 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

This is a test.Ignore it.
  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: umgopal@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Arun Gopal)
Subject: Hindi wordprocessor
Keywords: Hindi Wordprocessor
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:04:02 GMT


Does anyone know where I can find a Hindi wordprocessor?
From: vnk5651@tamsun.tamu.edu (K V N Gopal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Vedic Math
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:25:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Apr11.090106.11701@wpi.WPI.EDU> udumudi@maxine.wpi.edu (u v babu srinivas) writes:
>In his article <> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>=> 
>=>     I had read a few pages of this book at IIT(B). The author of the 
>=> book is one Mr. Shankaracharya. The book had some really fundoo methods
>=> for divison, multiplication,root-extraction,etc. It also gave the 
>=> original Sanskrit verses which described the method.
>
>I read the book when I was in Intermediate II yr. It's a great book
>and was just a part of the real vedic mathematics book (which the

 (some interseting examples deleted)
 I also 'studied' the book during my Intermediate(XI and XII classes) and
even tried to apply some of the sutras(not slokas) to calculus and I was
successful.But I did not spend time on it after that.I still have it right
here in my office room.The author is not some 'Mr Sankaracharya'(Please 
show more respect even if you do not believe in it as it is a title rather
than a name for the present incumbents) but Bharati Krishna Tirtha who was first
the Peetadhipati of Sringeri Math and then Puri(vastly different in his views
from the present one).His premonastic name was Venkatraman Saraswati.He was not
just a ordinary religious teacher but was a brilliant student and was well 
educated before he took sanyasa and was involved for a while in the freedom 
movement.                 

Gopal

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kumar@ditsydh.syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Happy Tamil New Year
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:46:51 GMT

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HAPPY TAMIL NEW YEAR !!

Tamilzhukku amuthaendru paeyar, ath tamilzh
inbath tamilzh engal uyirukku naer !

Vaazhga Tamil, Vaazhga vaiyagam, Vaazhga valamudan

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Anbudan,

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14052 soc.culture.pakistan:6297
From: trivedi@curie.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Kashmir:some questions?
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:05:46 GMT
Organization: Enrico Fermi Institute, University of Chicago.

In article <1992Apr11.213611.26148@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:

>My personal preference is an economic fedaration of all the South-asian
>nations with transparent boundaries.

Sounds like pre-partition situation to me. Do you have your flame-retardent
suit on? :-)

Also, screw real-life economic considerations. It's so much better when
each little group seeks its "identity" through separateness and conflict.  :-)
From: fpa@thedog.cis.ufl.edu (Francis Augustine)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H-1 visa query
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:18:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: uflorida.34988
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Hi netters

I am posting this for my friend who is thinking of applying for a H-1
visa by himself. He would like to get suggestions and answers to the 
following questions from persons who have obtained H-1 under the new rules.
 
Responses may be sent directly to my friend at nangia@stat.ufl.edu

1. Details on the labour certification required for H-1. 
What form need to be filed with the department of labour ?
Is it necessary to advertise the post ?
If it needs to be advertised then the correct procedure to do so 

2. How much time does the labour certification and the H-1 visa takes ?


Information may pl.be sent to nangia@stat.ufl.edu or I can forward replies
sent to my account.

Thanks

Francis
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: More on TN chief
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:23:33 GMT
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Need facts. There were these quisling Tamil groups funded by RAW doung all
they can do descredit LTTE in Tamil Nadu. It meant lootings, showing off with
AK-47's and some shootings. All got blamed on LTTE by the media. 
Just think for while. Does LTTE stands to gain anything by improper
bahavior in Madras or anywhere? Then again, you are not aware if
the disciplinary code followed by ALL members.  They could teach the
meaning of discipline to the ill-behaved Indian Army.  If you still
think the Tigers are just another one of those 'terrorist groups,' you
need a shock therapy on hard reality.  They have fought 2 armies and
continue to fight the SL's combined armed focrces(70,000 soldiers,
sailors & airmen).  You think they need to derail a train in India to
score browny point in the war in SL? It would make sense only to an
idiot box. LTTE is more or less an army of its own now. I'll enlighten
you on this:
the only thing thay still can't have or don't posses is air power and
heavy armor & artillery.   
The other group members for their anti-social behavior in Northeast Sri
Lanka had to bite LTTE bullets! They robbed banks and were flasing
around their AK-47's. in the wrong places.
Also, you  are ignorant of how much the Delhi is involved in this situation.

You and your puny knowledge of what has been going on and still goes on.
Don't display you ignorance like an illiterate who believes everything
the media dishes out. Or, are you an American who is literate yet
ignorant anyway- see no evil & hear no evil attitude.

Suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chandrab@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu (Chandramouli Banerjee)
Subject: Test
Summary: Test 
Keywords: ---
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:48:28 GMT

Twas brillig and the slithy toves 
did gyre and gimble in the wabe
....
....
From: ravindra@PANGEA.STANFORD.EDU (Niranjan Ravindran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:34:15 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: naveen@ms.uky.edu (Naveen Goud)
Subject: CITY OF JOY ( Movie with Indian Actors )
Keywords: Movie, indian
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:36:13 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Computer Sciences
X-Bytes: 

Hi Guys,

Yesterday I saw the commercial of the movie , CITY OF JOY on the FOX television
network. I think it is supposed to release soon probably next week or so.

The reason I am interested in is there are some indian actors in it.
The main character is Patrick Swayze, and among the Indian actors I saw (in the
commercial) Ms. Shabana Azmi, Mr. Amrish Puri. I think this film may have been
shot in India or in indian sub-continent. 

If any of you guys have known anything about this movie please post it on the 
net for me and others who may want to know about it.

Thanks ,

- Naveen



-- 
Naveen Goud         --- naveen@ms.uky.edu, naveen@ukma.BITNET 
Dept. of Computer Science , University of Kentucky , Lexington, KY 40506
From: arunk@cs.utexas.edu (Arun Kandappan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Date: 17 Apr 1992 13:27:44 -0500
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu

In article <9204171802.AA02818@cec1.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>In article <92107.215156U15297@uicvm.uic.edu> you write:
>>

	........
	........

	Would someone interested in starting the newsgroup 
	soc.culture.tamil please post an RFD and a charter.

	Without an RFD it leads nowhere for a soc.* group.
	Hopefully it will clear up what the sponsors would like to
	have on the newsgroup.

-- 
Arun Kandappan                                  arunk@cs.utexas.edu
512+345-1616   EE Dept, UT at Austin TX 78712   uunet!cs.utexas.edu!arunk
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14297 soc.culture.pakistan:6463 soc.culture.bangladesh:2395
From: vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: THE LIGHT OF MY LIFE......
Keywords: WOMEN, WOMEN AND WOMEN (NO WINE/SONG !!)
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:25:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsa.1992Apr15.212551.5020
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Originator: vijay@picard.ncsa.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Apr15.184236.13889@ncsu.edu> ascidamb@unity.ncsu.edu (Aruna Cidambi) writes:
>	
>	BTW, could it be that some IW are too intelligent to waste their "TIME,
> ENERGY & EMOTIONS" over sci?:-) A possible reason could also be that,  

Ooh, what does that tell us about IW who post in sci ! :-)
(c'mon, spare me the sexist jive and read the smiley, please)

>aruna.
 
(let's be fair here)

>    Imagination was given to a man to compensate him for what he is not,
>                               ^^^               ^^^          ^^ ^^
                                person            them         they are
>
>       and a sense of humor provided to console him for what he is.
                                                 ^^^          ^^ ^^
>
                                                 them         they are.

Vijay.
From: sl9zf@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Advise for the Tamil net
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:51:43 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hi guys'
	What on earth  are u talking about "A New tamil net"? This is very 
weird we are staying in a country which doesnot believe in language barriers 
etc.  You guys I guess don't understand the meaning of being united.  
I thought older people like you are supposed to set an example for younger
people like me that we need to believe and respect India.  With all this new 
news net you atleast have convinced me that India is divided.  When I was
young I was told that India is a country which has UNITY IN DIVERSITY this 
looks like DIVERSITY IN DIVERSITY..
	This news net as far as I know is for people in UNITED STATES to know
whats going on  in India.  The question of diplomatic relations doesnot even
arise here we are just trying to let the people know what is going on with
politics etc not what Tamilians think of other Indians... 
	Its okay if you have a net for Music, a net for Sports but a net for a
separate language sounds rediculous.  If you really want to discuss about the
language please call people and talk to them on the phone why waste time to put
up a new news net?

-Keep Smiling:)
PS: No Offense Intended here, living here for so long has made me realize that
India is a beautiful country which should not be destroyed by language
barriers.


Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: mustaq@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Mustaq Hassan Moosa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Seeking Zubin Jacob Verghese (Bombay)
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:44:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


I am looking for one Zubin Jacob Verghese. He is somewhere in New Jersey
or New Havens. If anyone reading this knows his whereabouts, please
send me his address/email add./phone no.

Thank you,
Mustaq.

--
mustaq@matt.ksu.ksu.edu 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Netiquette
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:26:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.161811.17212@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sidnag@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (siddhartha.nag) writes:

>You want to go first, because I have some masterpieces, I would like
>to share with the netters too, including a few from individuals
>you might know. :^) :^) :^)

I have no intentions of playing 'follow the leader' with anyone.

George
From: rmv@ukc.ac.uk (RAJ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: thamiL_sangam
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:28:39 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


 Vanakkam 



     Before  we look at the thamiL  words   , let me give you some feedback .


      I received fair number of mail suggesting that we should not waste
time in trying    to coin thamiL words for trivial  non_thamiL  words
like "chocolate"  . Instead , should concentrate  more  on technical
terms .
         Secondly , I did not receive any response for the word/phrase
 "lead in"  . The reason may be that  the exact context  was not known .
Although I posted the mail I received from the person who suggested the
phrase , I think it was a bit too late  . Or  , is there anyother reason ?

 
  ammendments 
   ----------
 1) Technical terms will be prefered to other words / phrases

 2) I think we  should collectively spend more time on this .
    So in future we should deal with one word per month  .
    ( This is open to change  --- like others) 

 3)  But if you have a GOOD word , you can always send it to me .
    I will store it & use it later .

 4)  As we have to restrict  it  to one word per month , I will have to
    choose  a "good"  word , rather than "simple" 1st come 1st chosen basis .

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REQUEST
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I will be going home for summer  . So I want someone else to manage
our sangam   from  june  - september (inclusive)  . 
 Please  respond as soon as possible , as I have inform the other netters .

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ELECTION
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  After reading  the   new thamiL words  , send me the  a  mail of the following form .

  1st choice   xxxxx
  2nd choice   yyyyyy
  3rd  ......
  .....  

 The results will be posted on the last day of this month  .

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    new thamiL words 
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Contact lens: KaNukul-Kannadi.


contact lens : kannaga_aadi [kan + agam + aadi]


contact lense : vizhiyadi  (vizhi=eyelid + adi=mirror/glass)


contact lense  :   oli_siTPi (  oli = light   ;  siTPi  sculptor )

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                            anbudan ,
                             raj                           


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thamiLitku  amudhendru pEr.
andha thaiL  inbath thamiL  engal  uyiritku  nEr .
From: vnk5651@tamsun.tamu.edu (K V N Gopal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Vedic Maths, Cobra Patel
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:40:35 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <12251@tamsun.tamu.edu> gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.071117.26260@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>>
>>*Anyone who has done some reading on the book called `Vedic Mathematics'?
>>
>>    I had read a few pages of this book at IIT(B). The author of the book is
>>one Mr. Shankaracharya. The book had some really fundoo methods for divison,
>
>I'm not sure, but I think you are reffering to the book compiled by 
>Mr. Puri Shankaracharya (a prof in the mathematics dept. at the Univversity
>of Roorkee,UP).  I had read some part of that book and though I found the\
>initial stuff like multiplication/division/etc. very fundoo, the later
>stuff like differentiation and integration seemed to me to be almost as 
>hard as the methods in our high school text books. Perhaps it was just 
>a problem of thinking using the new terminology and non-standard methods.
>
>I believe this proffessor can still be contacted at the Univ. of Roorkee.
>

The book intially referred to and the book/author that Fafat refers to
if they exist are not the same.As I have written in an earlier posting the
book originally referred to was by Bharati Krishna Tirtha(1884-1960).He was
the head of the Saradapeetam at Sringeri before he went to Govardhana Math,
Puri.He did his M.A. securing the highest honours.He was the Principal of
the national College at Rajamahendri(Rajahmundry) before he took sannyasa
He also appeared in court as a witness in a trial of some Muslim leaders 
around 1921 and defended them.He also went on a tour of USA and UK where
he gave lectures on Vedic Mathematics in addition to spiritual talks.
He was a sage of the highest order and the book was infact written just 
two years before his death in failing eye-sight when he was nearly 73.
For people who need more info the book is published by
      Motilal Banarsidass

Gopal



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From: chansze@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (CHAN  Sze Keong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Keywords: citizenship
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:30:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: helios.1992Apr17.203042.1826
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility

In article <1992Apr16.200216.6306@watson.ibm.com> jitendra@kaiser.watson.ibm.com (Jitendra Telang) writes:
>
>I never understand why southies, (the ones I've met in this category are usually
>from Madras) have such an attitude problem regarding Hindi. First you have to accept
>the fact that Hindi is the national language of India. That itself is
>sufficient for Indian government to assume that all INDIAns understand Hindi.

Thus Speaketh God! Follow it.

srini
email:srini@comm.toronto.edu
From: manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: sci oscar nominations
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:29:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr6.182932.18996
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr5.192148.9145@acsu.buffalo.edu> acsossc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Samir Chaudhari) writes:
>
>	In light of the proceedings in Hollywood, sci has come up with
>it's own version of oscar nominations. 
>Ofcourse, people are welcome to alter these. Last but not least, no hard 
>feelings and nothing personal. Here we go..
>
>Other regional nominations:		Njan, "Ajay"

Yeah!!! I knew it!

Njan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian