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From: lehughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes)
Subject: New Taxes (suprise, suprise)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: hsv
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:32:18 GMT

It appears that Clinton's new cabinet has disavowed any knowledge of his
"middle income tax cut" already (that didn't take long). Furthermore, they
are going full blast on a national sales/VAT ("consumption") type tax.
And since with such a tax you can't really soak/rob/pillage/rape the "rich"
as effectively as you can with an income tax (it is not "progressive" enough),
they are considering ELIMINATING income tax for folks making less than $25K,
but leaving it IN PLACE for everyone else. My guess is if you make $50K or
over, you will probably be paying as much OR MORE income tax as before, PLUS
a very large "consumption" tax (hint: YOU are what is being consumed). And
I'll just bet that they will cut every bit as much spending as they did in
return for the LAST big tax hike (i.e. none at all). Business as usual.

Furthermore, there is lots of talk that they will crank up the magic INFLATION
monster used so effectively by Carter (he is responsible for about half the
total devaluation of our currency in the last two decades) to pay off (well,
to APPEAR to pay off) the deficit. Hear that sucking sound in the vicinity of
your wallet? That's Slick Willy at work. Anyone willing to wager how long it
will take before inflation is above 10% again?

I've had it with these jokers. I'm going to take MY national defense and
judicial business to their competitor. Oh damn, that's right - they HAVE
no competitors. *Sigh*.

Petition to recall/impeach ALL elected federal officials! Leave no survivors.
Especially Hillary (gee - I don't REMEMBER seeing her on the ballot...)

lehughes@b11.b11.ingr.com
From: jim@doink.b23b.ingr.com (James B. Reed)
Subject: Re: Your expeirences with Breland Homes and Brian Homes
Reply-To: jimreed@b23b.b23b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: hsv
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:43:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.153137.5671@b30.b30.ingr.com>, sreed@b30.b30.ingr.com (Sreedhar Barakam) writes:
|> I am considerings homes by Breland Homes, and Brian Homes in the Madison
|> area and would appreciate your comments and suggestions.

You don't say if you're looking at existing pre-owned houses, existing
new houses, or having a house built, so my comments may or may not apply.

In January '92 we closed on a house we had Brian Homes build for us.
Mike Lawson (owner) was very friendly and seemed helpful at first,
but once we signed a contract and construction started, it was very
difficult to actually get in touch with him and his employees tended
to give us the runaround.

We ended up having to send a threatening letter (mentioning a lawyer)
before they would fix a problem we had with water coming into the
garage.  Before sending the letter, we had hasseled with them for
about six months during which they kept telling us that they would
have to regrade part of our lot to fix the problem.  Everytime men
came out for the work, they "sealed" the foundation instead of
regrading.  The work was completed within a couple of weeks of the
letter.

Their workers (or subcontractors) rarely did more than a barely adequate
job.  They slopped over simple details frequently, especially the paint.
We finally gave up on getting them to finish a couple of minor items
on the punch list when we realized that they wouldn't (or couldn't)
do it right.

It may sound like I'm being harsh on Brian Homes, but there are
plenty of builders around who are worse.  Still, if we build another
house we won't use Brian Homes because they're too difficult to deal
with.

My advice for dealing with Brian Homes is to get an inspection done
(don't use anyone recommended by Brian Homes) and refuse to close
until every little detail on the punchlist is completely fixed.
Don't move in before closing unless they agree to let you live there
rent free until closing.  (Once you start paying rent, you're covering
their interest expenses on their building loan for the house.)

I can share more details by email if you're interested.

	Jim
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From: Dan.Walther@f20.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dan Walther)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Prisoner Episodes...
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 22:34:39 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/20 - The Post Offis, Huntsville AL

->     I don't know how many people out their watch The Prisoner on the
-> SciFi channel, but I think that this is a great show. I really do lov

  I sent you a message on it, but I guess either you never got it or
something..  The thing I don't understand about the episode I saw ('Once
Upon a Time') was that #6, the main guy, defeated #2 in his search for
information.  This other guy walks in and says 'Congratulations' to #6!
Whose side is everybody on?

-> this show and try to tape every episode. However, in the interest of
-> saving _cones_(?) from their horrible desmise I sometimes miss a few
-> of the episodes. Does anyone out their have the episodes on tape?

  I only have 'Once Upon a Time'.

    Muad'dib



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From: guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com (Guy D. McConnell)
Subject: Re: The New ZYP?
Reply-To: guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:53:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.141321.3859@infonode.ingr.com>, knightf@infonode.ingr.com (Frank Knight) writes:
|> In article <6851.2B5D0B83@umagic.FIDONET.ORG> Dane.Walther@f20.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dane Walther) writes:
|> >JM>   I don't listen to WZYP, but the scuttlebut I've heard is that they have
|> >...
|> >JM>   Apparently, they are conceding the over-35 market, and are going after t
|> >JM>teenyboppers with a vengeance.
|> >
|> >   106.1 is the best..although I can't think of the name (WAM?), I
|> > listen to it constantly, but then again, I'm not a picky music person
|> > (not implying you are), so I guess any music is good music to me
|> > (except Country and Heavy-Metal! <G>)..
|> >
|> >Dane
|> >
|> Try also 106.9 and 99.5 for "classic rock" both in Birmingham.

    Hmmm, SUX, er, KICKS 106 must have changed their format since I moved to 
Huntsville.  When I lived in Bessemer, they were roughly the equivalent to what
the ZIT is now.  In high school, we used to take several of their bumperstickers:

		KICKS 106

cut them up, and "reformat" them to say:

		KICKS SUX

It looked like it came that way until you got really close.  Still had their
colors, etc.  Of course, the stickers had block-style letters which made the
alteration easy.  I used to listen to K-99, "Birmingham's Finest Rock" in those
days.  Now *that* was a rock and roll station!

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From: John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Car Shoppers Beware!
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:59:05 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Sounds like your experince with the local Toyota dealer matches mine. 
They were rude and refused to deal. It amazes me they are still in 
business.
ok 



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From: Matthew.Perrino@f17.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matthew Perrino)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: For Sale
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 21:09:08 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/17 - NASAU Beach CBIS, Huntsville AL

I didn't see a local "For Sale" base.. so I just put this here....
 
For Sale: 
          Amiga 500. 
                    1 Meg
                    RF adaptor
                    All manuals and box
                    About 15 games including:
                              Powermonger
                              Populous
                              Damocles
                              Thunderhawk
                              Neuromancer
                              Gunship
                              Federation
                              Starflight
                              Starglider II
                            And others...
                    This machine has a brand NEW power supply
                    and was repaired around Oct-Nov. 92 at                     Alabama Computers for a loose power port.


Asking $140 but will negotiate.

Also selling:
          Atari Lynx with California Games and Roadblaster
          $55

          "Realistic" CD-3200 CD player with AC adaptor and Car
          Adaptor. Functions include: Memory, Repeat, and others.
          Asking $75.

          Perfect Sound Audio Digitizer with all manuals and           support disk. 
          asking $35.

For More Information call: Matthew or Amanda at 205-830-4108.

Thanks.



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From: lehughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes)
Subject: Re: Car Shoppers Beware!
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: hsv
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:03:40 GMT

In article <MIKE.93Jan27113651@mathis.b30.ingr.com>, mike@b30.ingr.com (Mike Mathis) writes:
> In article <1993Jan27.153717.24256@b30.b30.ingr.com> crack@fermat.b17a.ingr.com (H. Bret Young) writes:
> 
> >   I think I need to be educated about some things. How do I know for
> >   sure that the invoice I'm shown is 100% legit?

I thought everyone was aware of the "dealer invoice" con - sure the dealer
pays the vendor that amount, but the vendor then turns around and pays the
dealer a fee for selling the car... the dealer could sell at "invoice + 0"
and still make a handsome profit... anything they get above "invoice" is
additional gravy. Ever wonder how they sometimes sell "at invoice", or even
"below invoice" and still stay in business? My favorite line item on a
"dealer invoice" was one that read "Additional Dealer Markup"... jeeze....

> unscrupulous dealers (oxymoron?) can fake them.  Anyone with a laser

no, "scrupulous dealers" would be an oxymoron, as in "military intelligence".
What you have here is a case of redundantly repetitive redundancy.

> Mike Mathis

lehughes@b11.b11.ingr.com 

"Legal at Last, Legal at Last, Cthulu Almighty, Ize Legal at Last!"
(or would have been if I could have resisted this closing - missed by THAT much)
From: Jim.McCullars@f1.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim McCullars)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: A puzzle
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:34:26 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/1 - Net 373 Echomail Hu, Huntsville AL

In a message of <Jan 19 15:43>, Norman Frederick (1:373/32) writes: 
 NF>Solution:

   You're RIGHT!  You win the prize, which is free admission to the electronics 
sale that Keith Ford is having at his house on Jan 30.
   Congratulations again...

Jim
 



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From: mike@b30.ingr.com (Mike Mathis)
Subject: Re: Car Shoppers Beware!
Organization: Intergraph Mechanical
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:31:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.052240.20776@b11.b11.ingr.com> puttk@b11.b11.ingr.com (Ken Putt) writes:

   Newsgroups: hsv.general
Path: b30news!ingr!b11!puttk
   From: puttk@b11.b11.ingr.com (Ken Putt)
   Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
   Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:22:40 GMT


> ...Ken's bad experience deleted...

This seems to me to be an example of differences between salesmen.  I
walked into Performance last week with my wife, talked to a salesman I
have met a couple of months ago while "just shopping," told him I was
serious about buying, and drove out in a new Toyota.  The salesman was
polite, friendly, and professional to me and my wife and restless
toddler (and believe me, I worked him hard for hours on the trade).  As
far as price, I whipped out my Consumer's Guide pricing information and
offered a $500 profit if he would take it.  He and the finance guy took
it to the sales manager and he accepted it, even though they had to work
a swap with a dealership in Georgia that had the exact model/options I
was looking for.  To quote the sales manager "$500 is nothing to jump up
and down over, but some one will give it to you; it might as well be
us."  BTW, I asked, and they showed me the invoice.

Their setup did seem strange, though.  As Ken mentioned, the salesman
didn't do much once negotiations started.  A finance guy did most of the
legwork from that point on, even though I didn't use any of their
financing.

On the other hand, I had a poor experience at Bill Penney just days
before the Performance deal.  The salesman was OK (although relatively
ignorant about the car), but when the sales manager was an condescending
jerk who wouldn't budge from his markup.  However, a friend in the
office bought a Toyota there a couple of months ago and is perfectly
happy.

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From: dcwalter@dcw.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Christian Walters)
Subject: What's the difference? 
Reply-To: dcwalter@dcw.b23b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Electronics
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:35:05 GMT

Hmmm....

I admit I don't follow politics as much as I should..

And I admit that I didn't vote this time around -- not out of any sort
of irresponsibility or lack of interest, though.  (The deadline snuck
up on me, and I was too busy at work.)

And I admit that I didn't particularly like the thought of ANY of
those jerks in office...

And having said all that, I have a question for those of you who have
the heart/guts to keep up with national politics as much as I should:

Has Clinton's first week been worse than, say, Bush's first week?
Has Clinton reneged on more promises?  I'm not being facetious,
I'm honestly looking for a comparison.  I didn't follow Bush when he
started out, and I'm trying to keep up with Bill now.  How do Bill's
lies stack up against George's lies?

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From: mike@mathis.b30.ingr.com (Mike Mathis)
Subject: Re: Furniture Stripping/Refinishing
Reply-To: mike@mathis.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Mechanical
Distribution: hsv.general ingr.general
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:16:28 GMT

pjs@b11.b11.ingr.com (Peter J. Smith) writes:
>    I'd appreciate any happy/horror stories anyone can relate from
>    businesses in the Huntsville area dealing with this subject.

Ed Sevigne has been in the business for many years in Athens/East
Limestone.  Recommended.  Give him a call at 233-1637.
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or uunet!ingr!b30!mathis					Mark Knopfler
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From: gja@b11.ingr.com (Gerry Attilio)
Subject: Gas Powered Chipper/Shredders
Keywords: Chipper/Shredder
Organization: System Tools Development
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:08:46 GMT


   I am in the market for a gas powered chipper/shredder.  I have seen 
the consumer reports article in which the Sears and MTD models were rated
a "Best Buy" but I have come across a newer model from "DUERR" located in
Tacoma Washington.  These models were not covered in the report. 
Has anyone had any experience with these machines.  It has some unique 
features such as a hose for vacuuming and blowing.

   I would greatly appreciate any information regarding reliability, 
experience or comparisons.  Please email me directly.

   Also thes models come in 5 and 8 hp.  Is the extra horsepower (8) really
needed.

Thanks,
   Gerry 



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From: Robert.Wood@f17.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robert Wood)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: RE: How long to Starkville?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 00:13:07 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/17 - NASAU Beach CBIS, Huntsville AL



     Oops... I meant Louisville was 30 Miles SouthWEST.  Not that it matters.

REW



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From: Norman.Frederick@f32.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Norman Frederick)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: A puzzle
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 15:43:50 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/32

JM says ENJOY!
 JM>    The personnel listed here work in one office.  The personnel 
 JM>  are:  Mr. Cartwright, Mr. Seely, Miss Anderson, Mrs. Jones, 
 JM>  Mr. Fields, and Miss Welch. Although not listed in respective 
 JM>  order, these persons fill the following positions:  Manager, 
 JM>  Assistant Manager, Cashier, Stenographer, Teller, and Clerk.
     
Solution:
Manager = Mrs. Jones
Asst Mgr = Mr. Cartwright
Cashier = Mr. Fields
Steno = Mr. Seely
Teller = Miss Welch
Clerk = Miss Anderson


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From: Robert.Wood@f17.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robert Wood)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: RE: How long to Starkville?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 23:59:24 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/17 - NASAU Beach CBIS, Huntsville AL

-> Could someone give me a good idea of how long it takes to get from 
-> Huntsville to Starkville, MS?  I know about how far it is, but 
-> since it's not interstate, I don't know what to expect time-wise.  
-> Any hints about routes would be appreciated as well.  Thanks.


     I'm from Louisville, MS (30 Miles SE of Starkville) and I tend to use the simple route (I-65 to Bham, Whatever the Interstate is to Tuscolusa, then Highway 82 to Columbus, MS then to Starkville).  This is pretty much the longest possilble way to go, but is mostly interstate and a fairly enjoyable ride.  If you are only going there once you may want to take this route (it is, above all, an easy ride).  Travel time is about 4.5 hours or so (at legal speeds, and a lunch stop).

     There are shorter routes, of course.  The shortest time I've heard of is about 2.5 hours.  I don't know the exact route, but that was driving (in the driver's own words) "like a bat out of hell."  

     If I may ask, why are you going there?  Visiting Mississippi State University (about the only reason I know of for going there! :-) )?  Nice place.  Small, but I liked it.

REW




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From: Matt.Midboe@f20.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Midboe)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Prisoner Episodes...
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 20:18:22 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/20 - The Post Offis, Huntsville AL

    I don't know how many people out their watch The Prisoner on the
SciFi channel, but I think that this is a great show. I really do love
this show and try to tape every episode. However, in the interest of
saving cones from their horrible desmise I sometimes miss a few of the
episodes. Does anyone out their have the episodes on tape?

                                                      matt midboe



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From: jerry@lambda.b23b.ingr.com (Jerry Suiter)
Subject: New Cars
Reply-To: jerry@lambda.b23b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:31:00 GMT

When I purchased by 1991 RS Caviler, I used a monthly "Black Book"
used car buying guide which showed dealer invoice on all 1990-1991
cars.  The sticker price was 10,700 the dealer invoice was 10,000.  
Beware, most dealer invoice's are marked up %20 for all options.  
Therefore, if the dealer is selling the car at dealer invoice, they
are making %20 on all options.  I offered the dealer 10,050 for the car
and they accepted.  Then I showed them the 1,100 worth of rebates I
was entitled too.  So I was able to purchase this 10,700 car for
8,950.

If you are willing to spend time working dealers against each other,
you can save alot of money.

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From: Lynn.Hollerman@f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Lynn Hollerman)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Your expeirences with 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:48:00 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

TO: sreed@b30.b30.ingr.com

SB>I am considerings homes by Breland Homes, and Brian Homes in the Madison
SB>area and would appreciate your comments and suggestions.

 A friend of mine owns a home in Breland's Autumn Ridge
 development...it's a little on the small side, but he was satisfied
 with the construction. I'd advise staying away from Autumn Ridge, as
 the proposed Southern Bypass is supposed to cut pretty close to that
 development, and to get to the development on the main road, you have
 to pass thru another subdivision of older, less well kept homes...we
 looked into buying a home there, and Autumn Ridge has all kinds of
 restrictions on what you can have in your front yard, the size of any
 buildings, etc., and all that seems kinda stupid when your neighbors in
 the older subdivision have the skeleton of a car on their front
 lawn...back in 1988, the Breland salesman told us that they were
 planning on building another road to have access to the Parkway without
 going thru the older subdivision...I don't know if that's completed.
 I'm not sure of their homes in Madison and the county, tho...

Lynn.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * I'm lost, but I'm still making pretty good time!

 

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From: knightf@infonode.ingr.com (Frank Knight)
Subject: Re: The New ZYP?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:10:20 GMT

In article <Z2oLXB3w161w@cdthq.UUCP> gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston) writes:
>random@presto.UUCP (Jeff W. Hyche) writes:
>
>> Well now what do we have here?  Foster and Grant are gone from
>> ZYP morning show and now they say they are the New 104.3, The New
>> ZYP.  
>
>I see Foster doing weather on Channel 19 in the mornings, in their
>"back yard". No idea what Grant is up to; maybe I should call 19
>some morning and ask her.  :-)
>

Also, what ever happened to Brooks, the guy that pre-dated Grant?

Frank

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