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From: cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary)
Subject: Losing icons one restart after rebuilding desktop
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:06:58 GMT

The machine: a Mac II that had the ROM upgraded when a Superdirve was installed.

The system 7.0.1, with NO Control Devices and NO extensions (though at first
there were many).

The symptoms:  upon startup, many, but not all, icons are missing.  Everthing
still works, but,e.g., MacMoney docs are dogeared blank pages.  NCSA Telnet
icon is that of a generic app.

I restart and rebuild the desktop.  All is fine.  But if I restart again 
without holding down opt-cmd keys, icons are lost.  REbuilding again
restores.  Another restart without rebuilding and many are lost.
Ideas?

Thanks....john Cary
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Department of Astrophysical, Planetary and Atmospheric Sciences
University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309-0391
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs)
Subject: Re: Set startup in 7.0?
Originator: hshubs@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:41:38 GMT

long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:


> Does anyone know of a way in System 7 to mimic System 6's Set Startup of
> running applications and DAs?

> Here's why: I often have several applications running on my Mac. Sometimes I
> need to reboot. So I'd like an easy way to get back to where I was, or at
> least a reasonable approximation. 

Make an alias of the applications (or files) that you want opened at system
startup.  Place the alias(es) in the Startup Items (I'm not sure of the name
but it's something like that) folder in the System Folder.  I've got Word
and a sound file in there myself.
-- 
Howard S Shubs      hshubs@eff.org      I don't represent the EFF,
The Denim Adept     hshubs@BIX.com      but I do agree with them.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: probulf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Frank Probul)
Subject: Re: -108, -192
Originator: probulf@hphalle0f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:31:59 GMT


In article <1992Aug13.122941.6406@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, peterhi@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Peter Hickman) writes:
|> I have an LC with 10 meg ram and 40 meg disk. This has been running without
|> fault for months now with the same init/cdev setup. Then yesterday I got a
|> message about not enough memory/too many windows open when using the finder.
|> Infact from a cold boot I only have to select the "About this Macintosh..."
|> from the apple menu 7 times in a row to get the error (is this why they call
|> it system 7?). Oh yes its S7 plus tuneup 1.1. As Ive said this particular set
|> up has worked for months. What do these errors mean?
|> 

-192: This error often occurs, when SAM 2.0 is running or was running while
installing System 7. 
- You MUST NOT use SAM 2.0 with System 7 !
- Do not disable SAM 2.0. DELETE SAM. Use SAM 3.0.x.

If you don't use SAM, then there are some other problems

Frankie
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Frank Probul
Emanuelstr. 17, D-8000 Munich 40, Germany

AppleLink: Probul.F
internet:  probulf@informatik.tu-muenchen.de

Munich University of Technology
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From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MacTCP -- Cannot lock address W Admin TCP
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:00:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bt8sp2.Bo4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>We have found that we cannot lock up the IP address box on the
>first screen of MacTCP even using AdminTCP.  We can lock up
>the parameters of the second screen, however.

Locking the second screen locks the first. You cannot lock the LAP
choice, but the address is locked just fine.

pr
--
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bear@netcom.Netcom.COM (Blair M. Burtan)
Subject: Looking for UNIX bar utility for Mac
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:12:01 GMT
Organization: Mattel Toys, Inc.
Reply-To: bear@netcom.com (Blair M. Burtan)
Distribution: comp

Greetings,  I need a Mac version of the Sun utility bar.  If anyone
know where I can find it or source code, I'd appreciate it.  BTW
Archie isn't very much help so far.
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+ Blair M. Burtan:  bear@netcom.com bear@csa.bu.edu bear@bu-pub.bu.edu +
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+ "If it's not baroque, don't fix it."  - Beauty and The Beast         +
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:46:27 MDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Icon Problem
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (john r park)

In article <1992Aug20.065059.1098@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
>gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (# Texas Stalker #) writes:
>
>>I'm having a small problem with icons.  I've upgraded PageMaker from 4.01
>>to 4.2, and MS Word from 4.0 to 5.0, but the old icons keep showing up.
>>I've tried rebuilding the desktop and they will fix it for a day or two,
>>but then they will go back to the old icons again.  I have deleted the old
>>versions already.
>
>Try rebuilding the Desktops of all 4 volumes.

And also make sure you don't have another copy of MS Word 4.0 on
ANY of the four disks.

-- 
#include <std_disclaimer.h>

John R Park                |  Dept of Mech. Engineering
parkj@bones.et.byu.edu     |  Brigham Young University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Approaching the Japanese market
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:41:04 GMT

I am interested in gathering opinions of those currently producing applications
for the Macintosh platform on the following questions.

1) If a product does not work under the Japanese operating system (KanjiTalk -
KT) how difficult is it to adapt the product so that it is 100% compatible? I
realize this will vary with the purpose of the application; I am interested in
all aspects. I am also interested in any all references available on the
process of localizing a product to the Japanese market (or any Asian market).

2) Is compatibility with KT the most significant problem in approaching the
Japanese market? If it is not, what is?

3) If approached by a Japanese company with the proposition that they could
successfully market your product in Japan and would like an exclusion marketing
agreement to do so, what reservations, fears, or problems do you think would be
most significant in closing such a deal? If the company was represented by an
American how would that affect your decision?

Since I doubt that this is of general interest please reply email. If anyone is
interested email me and I'll send you the responses or, if there is enough
interest, I'll summarize and post.

smittie
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smittie@beach.csulb.edu |  current world problems would be yesterday's news.
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From: jrh@de.deere.com (John R. Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Novell Printing with Mac 7.1 LW Driver
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:02:34 GMT
Organization: Deere & Company

We now print from our Macs through our Novell file server (Tricord).
The server forwards the print jobs to Apple LaserWriters on a LocalTalk
section of cable.  It all worked fine until we tried to use the new
LaserWriter drivers 7.1 and 7.1.1 on the TuneUp disks.  These cause
an error with the print server not recognizing a particular PostSCript
command.

Anyone able to make this work?

Thanks.

John


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Subject: Re: font AFMs
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 19:48:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.110315.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> jlawrence@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>This may be a very basic question (FAQ?) but I am clueless.  I just got ATM and
>want postscript fonts with my Stylewriter.  SOmeone told my yopu have to use
>the font AFM's with them, but did not know what to do with them.  
>What is a font AFM?
>and what do you do to/with them to use them with a stylewriter?

AFM = Adobe Font Metrics files.

As to what you do with them to use them on a StyleWriter, well, you
throw them in the garbage.

What you *do* have to have, however, is the actual PostScript font (i.e.
the "printer" font) for whichever faces you wish to use via ATM. These
are the standalone files (extensions in Sys 7.0) that have weird names
and are usually somewhere between 35 and 60+ K.

That's the way I've seen it work, at least.

--Purp, glad to have a real laserprinter.
-- 
+---------------+------------------------------+-----------------------+
| Jim Meyer     | If I express an opinion, you | purp@wixer.cactus.org |
| Austin, Tejas | can bet no one else agrees.  | aka jimpurp@pro-lep   |
+---------------+------------------------------+-----------------------+
From: jenks@usc.edu (Stephen Jenks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: IIsi Startup problem solved!
Date: 19 Aug 1992 17:57:21 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu


Thanks to all who replied about my lack of a color Mac icon at startup!
As suggested by several people, I simply switched to Black & White in the 
Monitors Control Panel, then back to 256 colors. That unconfused the system 
and everything is working perfectly again!

Thanks again,

Steve Jenks
From: Dan.Hughes@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Hughes)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: IISI SOUND PROBLEM
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:20:02 -0500

Give the IIsi and firm thump on the left side of the CPU. Seems to work for me.
Try it, you'll like it.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: smith@pell.anu.edu.au (Michael Smith)
Subject: Wish List
Organization: Australian National University
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:15:18


This is indeed a very brief wish list. 

 (1)  I wish "Dropple Menu" (allows you to drop files onto items in the Apple
      menu to open them) and "BeHierarchic" (hierarchical Apple menu) would
      work together.

If they do (and hence I'm doing something wrong) please inform me.

Cheers,
	Michael.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: matsb@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 - an overview
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:32:28 GMT

jerry@planck (Gerald Siek) writes:
: Hello networld,
: 
: Here's a short summary of the new features and enhancements of system 
: software 7.1.   The text is quoted from the introduction document  on 
: the 7.1 beta release CD.

[text deleted]

I'm not sure, but aren't you violating the license agreement for the CD
by posting this?

/Mats
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Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
Department of medical systems                  Ph:  +46 18 187817
Sweden                                         Fax: +46 18 187825
From: Rick.Zeman@p943.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Zeman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Tuneup from Apple
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:09:14 -0500

Is Tuneup 1.1.1 available for purchase from Apple?  Before the net thinks that
I'm nuts, we need to have an 'official' Apple copy for a classified contract.
I see that it's not on the 8/17/92 price list.
Anyone of y'all guys that hang out here know what I should do or whom I should
contact at Apple?  Much thanks.
From: mppu3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Conor McMenamin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How to use TeX previewer?
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

Thanks for the many responses on this one. To summarise, TeX previewer
_is_ out of date, it uses a different dvi standard than that currently
in use. Most replies advised me to get hold of OZTeX, available from
sumex-aim.stanford.edu and midway.uchicago.edu amongst others. But you
need a LOT of disk space to install it, so beware!

	Many thanks again to all TeXsperts (heave) who replied...
			Conor
From: ifstadelmann@cnedcu51.bitnet (Patrick Stadelmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How to replace Chicago 12 in menu bar ?
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:46:30 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

 Hi

 Is there a way to change the MBDF and/or the MDEF in the system (7.01) to
 have the menu bar displayed in another font ? What I'm trying to do is
 having the menu bar displayed in "Menu 12". Menu is a Chicago compressed
 font, created with ResEdit by changing the space between the letters in a
 copy of Chicago 12. I know that CramBar will do the job, but I would prefer
 avoiding any INIT/cdev solution.

         Thank you very much for any ideas or suggestions

PS : The "Menu" font should appear in the menu bar only, NOT in dialog boxes.

-- 

                 Patrick Stadelmann, Neuchatel, Switzerland                   
  e-mail : Patrick.Stadelmann@info.unine.ch                                   
   X-400 : C=CH;ADMD=ARCOM;PRMD=SWITCH;O=unine;OU=info;S=Stadelmann;G=Patrick
From: king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: rebuilding desktop under Sys 7?
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:42:16 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


From king Fri Aug 21 12:42:13 1992
To: /afs/acpub/users5/king/.article

Yes, command-option does still work, but you need to keep them held down longer.
King
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Ian Catlin <catlin@iosg.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: SuperBoomerang + CE Toolbox conflict
Organization: digital
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:16:07 GMT

>When I try to turn on SuperBoomerang 3.0.2 in Startup Manager, I get this
>message: 
>"Sorry, you can't turn on that INIT, because the links to it conflict
about
>'CE Toolbox'. "
>
>I don't even know what the CE Toolbox is much less how to fix the
problem.
>I like SuperBoomerang when it used to run before I got version 3. Any
>suggestions or explanations?

I believe CE Toolbox is REQUIRED for Superboomerang 3.0.2...   In fact It
came as part of
my Now Utilities...

You may have a clash with another init, you'll just have to experiment.

I have a II ci System 7.0.1 CEToolbox 1.6.5 and Now Utils 3.0.2 and no
(real) problems...

Ian.


All my views are my own and not those of my company, wife, friends,
relations and dog.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cole@nepenthe.unx.sas.com (Tom Cole)
Subject: Current (best) HP Deskwriter driver(was:Bus errors with HP3.1)
Originator: cole@nepenthe.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:37:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Aug17.205246.16082@riscsm.scripps.edu>, 
      collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet) writes:

|> There was a thread here a while ago on mysterious errors
|> in the bus (?) caused by the HP Printmonitor in the HP
|> printer software 3.1 for the Deskwriter.

Sorry if this is on a thread I missed (REAL short "retention span"
on our news system), but what is the current version of the HP
Deskwriter driver that I should have?  The version of the driver
that came with my Deskwriter last Christmas is "A.02.00", copyright
1989.

Sounds like this ain't the current beast, since I have no PrintMonitor
capability for this printer.... how do I go about getting an upgrade?
And as an aside, should I have gotten notification from HP about the
new drivers, or is news of the new drivers found here in net-dom...?

Feel free to e-mail me any answers you might have if this is too
obvious to clutter the net with followups.  Many thanks in advance...



-- 
Tom Cole, SAS Institute Inc. VMS R&D  cole@nepenthe.unx.sas.com
From: gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: At Ease
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:30:38 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Computer Training & Support Services, Colorado State University

At Ease has the potential to be a terrific security solution for the
Mac, but it does have two holes that could stand to be fixed.

1)  There is currently no way to prevent a user from getting around it
by booting from a floppy.  This can be a serious problem if you are
protecting the drive from more experienced users.

2)  The write-protection is an all-or-nothing form of protection.
There is no way to define specific folders to which a user would have
write privileges;  either they can write to the disk or they can't.

I realize that the original purpose of At Ease is to prevent damage
caused by inexperienced users, but in many lab situations it's the
more experienced users that cause the real damage to a machine's
setup.

--
Disclaimer: My opinions don't necessarily reflect those of my school or
my employer, but it's great when they do.

************************************************************************
* Scott Gerlach                   | gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu *
*								       *
* "No, I'm from Iowa... I only work in space." -James T. Kirk (ST:TVH) *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: FileGuard Interest Group
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:25:41 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <wall-170892145726@elvis.swarthmore.edu>, wall@cc.swarthmore.edu
(Matthew Wall) wrote:
>
> For University/College users of FileGuard (tm) disk protection software
> from ASD/Highware Development...
> 
> A FileGuard Interest Group (fig ?!?) for University/College lab managers
> ONLY is being established. This will be an unmoderated
> immediate-mail-forwarding group with a SMALL and PRIVATE membership for the
> discussion and exchange of information on specific technical problems and
> solutions with using FileGuard in University lab management situations.
> Please, educational or like institutions only; we want to keep this
> focussed.
> 

IMHO, File Guard is a waste of time and money and produces more problems
than it addresses.  It also ties you into a commercial product which
cannot be as current as Disinfectant.  File Guard has hosed more systems
here than I wish to recall. Why in the world would anyone want to use
it, I don't know.
From: fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 in Beta???
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:03:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Aug14.163558.26566@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> dave@nakiska.ucs.ualberta.ca (David Ross) writes:
>That's great, but are Sounds done the same way?  Seems like a really good  
>idea.  In fact, why the heck is the System File a suitcase - that doesn't  
>really make sense.  All changeable pieces should be separated from the  
>System.  Kinda like a microkernel I guess!!  

I agree.  I had a system crash once.  It seems that some unruly
application I was using left a sound resource open.  I had to completely
reinstall the system. Unfortunately, I had too kill the old system
and couldn't save the fonts or sounds.  Luckily I had backups, but
if I hadn't....  

It sounds like this architecture will prevent problems like this
from occuring.

-MeatHead
From: howie@cfarer.boeing.com (Howie Modell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Filesharing won't startup .. help!
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:18:32 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group

In article <howie-130892145254@134.52.54.217>, howie@cfarer.boeing.com
(Howie Modell) wrote:
> 
> HELP!!!
> 
> Thanx in advance.

We've isolated the culprit (?) as SAM 3.0.2.  I vaguely recall some thread
on this a while back???  Could anybody supply information?

howie
+----All opinions expressed are mine and *NOT* my employers!----+
   howard modell, Boeing Defense & Space group, Seattle, WA
         howie@cfarer.boeing.com, h.modell@online.com,
         h.modell@ieee.org,   72376.252@compuserve.com
From: landwebe@math.rutgers.edu (Peter Landweber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 in Beta???
Summary: ATM & Mode32
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:09:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug15.153017.16081@tdb.uu.se>, matsb@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:
> maynard@tamar.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
> : 
> : 1) Can you settle the ATM question: is it part of 7.1? In what way or
> : form?
> 
> The documentation says you can put Adobe Type 1 fonts into the fonts folder.

Actually, ATM is NOT part of 7.1, or at least it isn't in 7.1b7.  Yes,
you can put your Adobe Type 1 fonts in the fonts folder, but that's
only for downloading to your PostScript laser printer.  They won't be
rendered on the screen.  MODE32 isn't included in 7.1, either.  I just
tried it out on my IIcx, and I still needed to use MODE32 for 32-bit
addressing.  Oh well.  Perhaps in the next system release...

-- Greg Landweber  (PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT!!!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Steve Roth <Steve.Roth@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Sys 6.0.8 Net Install
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 17:09:36 EDT
Organization: U-M Hospital Dept. Surgery Technology Services
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

System 6.08 can be net-installed off a System 7 machine.  Here's how:
1) Copy the Install DISKS to your HD, each in seperate folders
2) Share each folder
3) On the machine to be installed on, have a network-ready floppy which
automounts your computer.  Then run the installer.

I think the Installer simply expects to find volumes with name xxxx.  If
they are shared items under System 7, then they appear as volumes under
System 6

-Steve Roth