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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: art packages for a ST?
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:28:46 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <2327976@overmind.citadel> undermind!Steve_Johnson@overmind.mind.org writes:
>HiSoft (I believe) and a few other companies have developed or are developing
> 65,536-color paint programs for the Falcon.  Lexicor also has a new program 
>called Phoenix512 (or something like that) which will, I believe, do Spectrum
> pics on normal ST's and up to 16-bit color painting on a Falcon030. 

To add to what Steve said, HiSoft is developing a package called True Paint,
which will allow 16-bit color painting on the Falcon.  This product will
be distributed in North America by Oregon Research Associates, who distributes
and supports the other HiSoft products here as well as their own Diamond Back,
Diamond Edge, and Ultimate Virus Killer (actually UVK is imported too
I believe).

As I understand it, Lexicor's Phoenix512 will render Chronos' ANM animation
files in 512-color Spectrum512-compatible files.  This will allow users to
use their software on low-end ST, STE, MegaST, and MegaSTE machines that 
don't have graphics cards.  They are also developing MonaLisa, a true-color
(everyone's favorite term :^) paint package for the Falcon.  I believe that
they are also developing it for the Silicon Graphics machines already; 
Lee Seiler actually showed it running on an Indigo at the Glendale show.

Finally, for those interested in graphics cards, George Richardson, the 
designer of Gadgets by Small's SST board, is going to be finally developing
his Chromax card.  It will be available the MegaST, MegaSTE/TT (VME), SST,
and Falcon.  If you have a 520 or 1040 and want one, you must speak up. :^)
He hasn't ruled them out, but he needs to see sufficient demand for them.
He's assembling a mailing list now.  I know his address on GEnie is 
G.RICHARDSO1, but I don't know if he has a CompuServe address.  For more info,
check out this weekend's Z*Net (hopefully it will be released this weekend! :^).

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From: ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari TT - Question
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:37:39 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

In article <1992Nov4.145057.10928@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> reich@winx06.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Stefan Reich) writes:
>
>Hi!
>
>I have some questions concerning the ATARI TT. I want to use MiNT and GCC and
>I am a bit confused about ST/FAST -RAM.
>
>1) Has anyone experience using TT and MiNT? 

Yes, I use MiNT on my TT all the time.. they were made for each other :-).

>
>2) What memory configuration do I need to compile with GCC ? 

As the minimum memory on a TT is 2MBytes, any TT will be able to run GCC,
but I would recommend at least 4MBytes to do anything worthwhile.

>
>3) How much faster than the usual RAM is the FAST-RAM ?

With a compute intensive task it can be up to 1.5 time faster than "ST-RAM".
Programs compiled with GCC with the -m68020 option usually get a doubling of
speed relitive to the same code compiled on an ST.

>
>Thanks in advance...
>      
>        Stefan (reich@winx06.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de )
>
> 

Steve
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From: runehy@dhhalden.no (RUNE HYLDMO)
Subject: Atari spokesmen where are you?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:46:35 GMT

Could someone from ATARI s staff please respond to all the questions about 
the delay of the FALCONS!!!

I know the chance of anything like that to happen is as big as if I got rich 
over night, but please give us SOME info. It does not take 4 months to 
produce 3-4000 machines unless something is redesigned or the company lack 
money. I just hope the latter is not the problem.

Anyway get the Falcon for sale soon or just forget it. The same senario 
happend to the TT and it took over a year from it s first public 
demonstration to it was available in the shops. Lets just hope and pray 
this is not the fact with the FALCON030.

Rune H. 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rrk@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (kutz,randolph r)
Subject: WARP 9 and CAD 3D 2.0
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:10:15 GMT
Keywords: CAD

Earlier I had lamented the fact that Quick ST 3, and later WARP 9,
did not work with CAD 3D.  A version 3.6 patch sent to me by the
Codeheads fixes the problem.  

One problem left:  has anyone successfully gotten the CAD 3D hardcopy
routine to work with G+plus replacing GDOS?

Is Tom Hudson still writing software somewhere?  This CYBER series
is just incredible.


Randy Kutz    Bellcore       ..!bellcore!vixen!rrk
                            or rrk@vixen.cc.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sergio@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Sergio)
Subject: ST FORMAT DO IT AGAIN..
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:33:28 GMT

Hi ,I have just recently been to the Future Entertainment show {in England
in London} where I bought a show programme, and in the part where the ST
 FORMAT {re Future Publishing} lot where talking about the new Falcon
I happened upon some rather interesting specs..


qoute {as far as I can remember}
 "...the standard Amiga and ST run at around0.25 MIPS whereas the new 
          Falcon will be running at 30 to 35 MIPS..." 



I thought these spec rather dubious ( as they also said that the Falcon was
a 16Mhz '030 ...  *8-) {I understand that it also has a 16 bit address bus ?}
                                  ****
 I repeat ,these are not my specs but ones I read in ST Format 
show columns                      ****
 
please all flames by email to stformat only { if they have any such thing }
or by snail mail well thats all I had to say except that yet again ST Format 
confuse the public   


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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Which comms package?  Flash 2 ???
Keywords: Telecomm program STalker
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:00:19 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <3627@isgtec.isgtec.com> ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman) writes:
>Anyway, about STalker3, from what I've seen of it, it runs the terminal
>session in a GEM window. I have two questions about this:
>      1) can it display a full 80 columns on screen?

Yes.

>      2) how fast does it scroll incoming text through a fast (v32bis)
>         modem? Is it real fast like Flash 1.6, i.e. can it keep up
>         with the data without handshaking constantly?

I have a Supra V.32bis modem and STalker works great with it.  Text scrolls
quite smoothly and quickly.  I'm sure Warp 9 helps a bit as well.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: danieldr@ecr.mu.oz.au (Daniel_Romulus CUCINELLI)
Subject: Falcon Lands in Australia.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:24:01 GMT

	The Falcon 030 was seen for the first time in Australia at the home 
computer show in Melbourne.  Coincidentally,  next door (in the same building)
to where I am doing exams at the moment.
	They had two Falcons on display, one in a darker than
usual atari ST case, the other in a lighter shade.  Both seemed to be still 
very early development machines.  They had some nice hi-res colour pics...
which they unrolled and faded in different ways.  The machine was equipped
with a 65 mB internal drive and 4 meg ram.
	 Unfortunately,  no multi TOS was present on the falcons displayed
After questioning the rep, (who seemed to know what he was talking
about with regards to the specs etc....ie he didn't talk vapour ), said that
multi-tos was nearly ready and would be shipped with the initial release of
the machine. 
	Tos 4.0, with its colour icons, was the system it was using.  What
I forgot to tell the rep was whether this desktop, was the NEWDESK, or
just the TT's desktop.  I get the feeling it was the TT's desktop, as the
icons didn't have sound assocaited with them,  and the overall desktop stilll
had a very GEM'ish look and feel to it. ( thoough visibly quicker in window 
updates ).
	They didn't really have any decent software to show.  Probably the
most impressive thing, was a little public domain program (no flashy colours
on screen, just GEM text and icon boxes, afraid to say) which did real time
sound manipulation.....I particuliar like the Wemberly stadium effect....
When you spoke into the microphone,  you would get back instantaneusly your
voice as if in the stadium......great stuff.....boy could I have some fun with that.  The rep, confirmed that a virtual modem could be possible, but wasn't sure
whether TELECOMM would approve such a device....
	As for the price.....well I was told under $2000 (AUS) for the 4mb,
65 Mb HD version........pretty impressive.
	Overall, I thought the machine really just wasn't displayed as well as
it should have.  If I it was up to me to display....I'd look at doing a hyped
up karaoke......with full on video clip graphics etc....You need that type
of thing to attract the morons.....Oh well,  you have to realize that they
were struggling for availability of software.
	Release date.........January-February ....

	I think I'll buy one.....great for a sampler alongside my synthesiser.

Daniel.

danieldr@ecr.mu.oz.au  @ee.mu.oz.au  @cs.mu.oz.au
University of Melbourne
Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mndell@cs.ruu.nl (Mike Dell)
Subject: How should I read RS232 in Turbo-C on 1040ST-f
Summary: I want to know how to read data from rs232 in turbo C
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:43:02 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: rs232, C, atari, question, 1040ST


Is there anyone who could tell me how I can read data using
an atari 1040ST from the RS232 port at 9600 baud, in turbo C?

I played around with Rsconf, Bconstat/in, Cauxis/in but 
nothing seems to work properly (with B there is always data
even when there isn't and with C never even when there is)
Could be I'm doing something wrong but I don't want to waste
too much time on figuring out, so I'm asking you :-)

If you know how it works, have some examples, please E-mail me..

thanks in advance!!


Mike



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From: undermind!Steve_Johnson@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Is Atari going bust..??
Date: 03 Nov 92 15:46:00 EDT
Organization: Fortress R&D 404/521-0445 v.32bis TurboPEP
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In fact, 
Eric Smith was just HIRED by Atari to help work on MultiTOS.
From: jan@janhh.hanse.de (Jan Willamowius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Eiffel
Distribution: world
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:08:06 GMT


Is the programming language Eiffel available for the ST ?
Where can I get it ?

- Jan


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From: otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: English Sagrotan????
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:04:01 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research

In article <1689410EAB.C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu>, C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:
|>   Where may I find Sagrotan (what's the newest version) in english?
|> Thanks!!!
|>  
|> Jeoff Hines                                    c556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu
|>  

I think the newest version of Sagrotan is a commercial one (5.x?). I don't know
where to get it. One of the last noncommercial versions (4.14 or 4.17) was
translated to english by a norwegian. He is running a norwegian ST usergroup
and a PD-library based on floppies and (snail) mail. Name, adress and telephone
as follows:
	
	Stein Arne Jensen
	STUG Norway
	Skogenfeltet
	N-3630 Roedberg
	Norway
	Tl.f. +47 3 741473

I am not sure if I remember the details correctly (version numbers etc.) but he
can give you all the details.

- Oddvar Tveito (oddvar.tveito@nta.no)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mike Stramba <stramba@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: How do I cancel Dialing with Uniterm?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:11:01 GMT
Summary: It just keeps going, and going, and going


When I use the popup dialer (right mouse click) and select a number for
Uniterm to dial, it dials ok, but how do I get it to STOP ?

If the line is busy it just keeps going forever !!!

I've pressed every #$@!#%^$#^$ key on the keyboard, and pressed both mouse
buttons !

I'm using version 2.0e

Mike


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: gordonf@monashee.sfu.ca (Gordon Farrell)
Subject: Re: A little Falcon Math
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:23:14 GMT

In article <69153@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>The most believable reports are that there are about 50 "Atari dealers"
>left in the United States...
> 
>So if the "official allocation" is 2 Falcons per dealer, that means
>that the Atari production pipeline (whatever THAT means these days)
>is 100 units TOTAL..
> 
>So..  how hard is it to build 100 computers..?
>
>Must be pretty hard, I guess...
> 
>BobR

Oh, come on Bob.  According to a reader verified survey in AtariUser magazine
earlier this year, there are over 200 Atari dealers in the US.  Add to that
the number of Canadian dealers (I'd guess about 50, considering there are
about 6 or 7 in Vancouver alone), and you've got about 500 machines for dealers
in North America alone.  I presume there are at least that many dealers in
Europe and Australia & New Zealand combined, so you're looking at over 1000
machines for dealer demo units.

Albeit this still isn't a lot of machines, but it's much more than 100.

(In case you doubt the survey, these are dealers that actually answered the
phone and had machines for sale on the premises.  Also, this does not include
mail-order houses)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jmillar@thomas.helios.nd.edu (jay millar)
Subject: SPX's
Keywords: spectrum SPX
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:50:20 GMT


Does anyone know where to acquire .SPX format extended spectrum pictures
through anon. ftp?  I got the SPXV_18 prog from a.a and wondered if I was
simply being stupid in not being able to find any pictures to use with the
program itself.  Or does this require a seperate conversion program for
.GIF's?  Just wondering...thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sjg@phwoof.ph.kcl.ac.uk (Simon Gornall)
Subject: Re: How to Backup Mint partitions
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:17:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Posted-From: dogmatix.ph.kcl.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Nov5.064005.11733@ads.com>, pdel@ADS.COM (Peter Delevoryas) writes:
|> 
|> Howdy all, since installing Mint, I've been wondering how to back up
|> the partition. Simon Gornall's readme from his distribution says that
|> if you access the Mint partition from GEM, you'll corrupt it. Does
|> this mean that if I use a GEM backup program, I'll trash the Mint
|> partition? Should I tar it or use a .ttp backup program instead?
|> 

Oh dear, does it really ?   I'll have to make a few changes there.

What I was trying to say in my readme was to paraphrase the documentation
that comes with minixfs. It is supposedly possible to trash the partition, but
as it stands the distribution applies as many of the 'fool TOS into thinking
nothing is here' bits of 'minit' as it can. I must say that I have accessed my
drive under conditions where TOS "should" have corrupted data and nothing
was lost. Still, I don't advise it. (So I'm paranoid... :-)

Also, (maybe I didn't make this clear), when MiNT/minixfs are running, you can
run TOS programs to your hearts content. When minixfs isn't loaded, you should
NOT be able to see anything on the partition. So if you can see the files, you
should be able to use any method you wish to.

I use zoo to back up my partition (it compresses as well as backs up), then
a GFA program to split it into 720k chunks. A decent 'cat' program (NOT the
gnu utils one) will then put it all back together. This has the drawback that
you have to have enough free space for the intermediate large .zoo file.

========

On a slightly different note, I've been away for a while, but now, hopefully, I
can begin to bring the distribution set up to date (gcc 2.2.2 etc.). You might
all have noted that on a minixfs system, the /tmp directory is not set +sticky
either.

Simon.
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GEMULATOR for sale in Australia ???
Date: 6 Nov 1992 23:23:59 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Nov6.183907.2274@newshost.lanl.gov>, hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
>In article 1dajthINNjh@golem.wcc.govt.nz, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz () writes:
>>>>Roger.............           sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
>>
>Fred, try Paragon Computers in Perth, WA.  Sorry, no phone number but you should

>>___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
>_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
>________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
>____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________

Well its not in there lastest catalogue that came in the mail to-day..

But here are PARAGON WA. phone No.'s   (09) 221 3216  , fax = (09) 325 8251
and there BBS is (09) 325 5160......


Roger..............          sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: be824@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Selick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: C-lab gone under?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 14:07:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be824@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Selick)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Is it true that C-Lab, the developer of Notator, has gone under? What
is the last version of the Notator program? Will it go into the public
domain?

-Steve selick@csa.bu.edu
From: baffoni@phakt.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: How do I cancel Dialing with Uniterm?
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:03:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: phakt.1dsvkmINN6qe
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov11.061101.11967@zooid.guild.org> stramba@zooid.guild.org (Mike Stramba) writes:

>When I use the popup dialer (right mouse click) and select a number for
>Uniterm to dial, it dials ok, but how do I get it to STOP ?

>If the line is busy it just keeps going forever !!!

>I've pressed every #$@!#%^$#^$ key on the keyboard, and pressed both mouse
>buttons !

>I'm using version 2.0e

	This is  a bug that appeared in all 2.0e versions prior to (I believe)
015.  What you need to do is put a 1 in the redial section of the dialer menu
as a blank or a 0 will cause the symptoms you describe.

	Or use the newer (>=015) version...I don't know where you can get it
though.  (If I remember the new version fixed a bug (a feature IMHO) having
to do with the mouse edit...its been so long since I've used Uniterm that I've 
forgotten tho. I think it had to do with not inserting cariage returns. :)

>Mike

-MikeB
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:16518 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:5588
From: michael@dime.cs.umass.edu (Michael Kieras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: MiNT 0.95 / MultiDesk Deluxe incompatibility
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:32:03 GMT
Reply-To: michael@dime.cs.umass.edu (Michael Kieras)
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Does anyone out there have MiNT 0.95 working with Codehead's
MultiDesk Deluxe?  I can't get it working, even with a virgin
copy of MDD.  Unfortunately, I don't know off the top of my
head which version of MDD I'm currently running.  I'll check
on it in the event that it's important.

It _does_ work with MiNT 0.94, however.

Thanks for any info.


Michael Kieras
michael@cs.umass.edu
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Floptical Drive Price
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:08:55 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:

>>    In response to a request for the price of the Infinity Floptical Drive
>> by PLI that I purchased at the WAACE show from Joppa Computers, the show
>> price was:
>>             Drive and cable (one 21 Mbyte floppy included) 435 dollars
>>             Same as above with ICD Link                    535 dollars


>And you said the 21mByte disks are supposed to be how much???  That
>sounds like a killer deal! 

Don't forget that a Floptical is NOT superior to a hard drive.  They give
one 1/4 of the transfer speed, and the seek-time is MUCH worse.  The biggest
advantage is the cheap and removable media.  It is DEFINATELY the successor
to the floppy drive (as NeXT has concluded).  NeXT machines generally
transfer files to the hard disk for any work.


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From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: How to convert .PI1 files to any IBM format??
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:07:03 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1dbcruINNbg2@crcnis1.unl.edu>, by ganderso@unlinfo.unl.edu (gary anderson):
> 
> Subject line pretty much says it all, if rather tersely:  I'm looking
> for some way to convert some Degas-type .PI1 pictures into any 
> IBM-readable format, like .GIF or .BMP.
> 
> Can it be done?

Yes, it can.
Save the files in an IFF format - use Picsitch or similar.
I believe the NeoChrome Master allows direct IFF saves.

You can now load these onto the PC using Graphic Workshop.
GW supports GIF, BMP, IFF and many other formats.

I've done it this way, but sometimes the colour converter doesn't
quite match the colours properly.

Antony.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st