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From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:20:52 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


In article <1993Jan25.233113.28250@netcom.com>, ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan25.101346@kuttner.sfc.sony.com> weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver) writes:
|> >
|> >Santa Clara County has its own organization.  KSJX 1500 is the lead station,
|> >followed by KEEN and KLOK.  
|> >
|> 
|> This is interesting... Who is taking KEEN's place now that they are 
|> not on the air?

Good point!  I expect that KLOK is now the level 2 ("CPCS-2") but don;t
know for sure.  Lemme ask Dave Williams at KSJO/SJX...
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:56:13 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


In article <1993Jan26.170202.8013@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
|> 
|> Question for broadcasters:  when a station runs an EBS test, do you
|> actually do more than what it sounds like to a listener:
|> which is play a cart that announces the test, and play a tone for
|> a few seconds, and make another announcement?

Nope, that's all it is.  23 seconds, actually.

|> 
|> Because all it sounds like to the listener is a test to see if
|> the cart marked "eBS test" works! 

AND the annoying tone - gotta make sure that works too.

|>  Does anything make a listener
|> tune out faster than hearing "this is a test" (besides maybe
|> hearing Whitney Houston sing "If..." and you know it's that
|> song for the one millionth time)?

They tune back in eventually.  Gotta do 'em, it's the rules.

-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:13:46 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


KCBS is the lead EBS station these days (KNBR got kicked WAY down the chain
after the earthquake), in the "North Bay".

Santa Clara County has its own organization.  KSJX 1500 is the lead station,
followed by KEEN and KLOK.  

In state/local activations, stations are not REQUIRED to repeat the lead
station, but damn well better get the information out.
 
In a missiles-are-in-the-air national emergency, non-participating stations
will sign off, and everybody else will repeat the lead station.

In the recent FCC Bureaucracy Check, we discovered that we are considered
a "primary" (participating) station, when we had thought we were non-
participating.  Well whaddaya know...

-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,rec.radio.noncomm
From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: WARNING: FCC inspections
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:46:29 GMT


In article <N62PXB7w164w@tweekco.uucp>, alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes:

|> Noncommercial stations often present worldviews disliked by conservative
|> Republicans. Look at this as the last gasp of the George Bush 
|> Administration, doing the very last bit of damage they can before Clinton
|> appoints his own person to run the FCC.
|> A.Lizard

Well now.  I really must beg to differ.

Conspiratorially minded though I am (and for that matter, my station is!), 
I have a hard time with the above assertion, due to the behavior of the
inspectress.  It was a very bland, ordinary bureaucracy check.  She even
let us handwave past a few little deficiencies.

If they had wanted
to roast us for our views, they (i.e. several people) would have come in
armed with tapes of people playing "fuck songs" during drive time, 20
plays per week of "Detachable Penis" and so on.  There would also have
been a tech inspection, finding who knows what deficiencies in our
transmission system (shudder).

I also understand that this was a local-office initiative, not a nationwide
sweep. 
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Singing EBS test
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:36:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

Oh Yeah!  

I remember WLIR-FM (at 92.7 FM in stereo -- The Radio Station) in Garden
City, Long Island, running the Singing EBS Test.  My recollection is
that the FCC wasn't amused. 

Anybody out there have some more WLIR lore to share?

-- 
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1600 Stokes St. #24  | Work: +1 408 764 5305 | DoD#: 0357
San Jose, CA  95126  | Fax:  +1 408 764 5003 | KM6CG (ex WB2GOH)
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 29 Jan 93 02:05:03 GMT
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Distribution: ba
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1993Jan29.004826.22281@netcom.com> ser@netcom.com
	(Steve Rubin) writes:
>I wasnt born yesterday...

No such accusation implied or intended.  However, you can't
assume that everyone reading this newsgroup has your wealth of
experience or knowledge, and it doesn't hurt to explain the less-
than-obvious on occasion.

Think like a newscaster.  :-)

					-=EPS=-
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:24:28 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1993Jan26.170202.8013@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
>
>Question for broadcasters:  when a station runs an EBS test, do you
>actually do more than what it sounds like to a listener:
>which is play a cart that announces the test, and play a tone for
>a few seconds, and make another announcement?

Yes, and no.  

The station plays an announcement tape, and then engages the EBS two-tone
generator, and once the tone ends, the station plays the "This has been a
test" cart.  The tones MUST come from the EBS device, and may not be played
back on tape because the tones must be pure, and within a few cps of the
intened frequencies, because.....

Any station, who has their EBS monitor set to the station running the
test, should hear their EBS monitor trip.  

The two-tone system is not only to perk the ears up of the listening
public, but to trigger other devices at other stations.

It's been quite a few years since I've been involved in radio, but I
do believe that all EBS tests (sent and received) need to be entered 
into the station logs.  

Keep in mind... If the ebs tests don't trip remote receivers during a
test, then the most likely won't work in a real emergency... and you'll
be listening to Live105 (or any other station) and you won't hear about
the nuclear bomb dropping till Laurie Thompson (or any other newscaster)
sees it in the morning Chron.

There is also the top level distribution system that is in place to
relay EBS activations to the top level stations.  I don't know what
the distribution medium is now, but at one time at least, it was
(at least partially) via teletype.

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:16:49 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

The EBS failed completely after the 1989 earthquake.  I never heard
so much as one tone.  KCBS returned to the air a few minutes after 
the quake, but there was no EBS announcement.  (Although they did make 
some of their own emergency announcements, such as "please turn off your 
gas if you smell something" etc.)

There was also a lot of false news being broadcast.  Channel
7 (KGO) reported that the Valley Fair Mall in San Jose had collapsed,
as well as collapses of the 280/Magdalena and 101/University overpasses.
After an entire evening of watching TV, I heard nothing of the EBS.

I guess we all learned a lesson about what happens when major
communications systems are disrupted.  I'm glad I have my
2 meter ham radio in my car.


-- 

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Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin)
Subject: Re: Current EBS procedures?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:41:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.170202.8013@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
>
>Question for broadcasters:  when a station runs an EBS test, do you
>actually do more than what it sounds like to a listener:
>which is play a cart that announces the test, and play a tone for
>a few seconds, and make another announcement?
>
>Because all it sounds like to the listener is a test to see if
>the cart marked "eBS test" works!  Does anything make a listener
>tune out faster than hearing "this is a test" (besides maybe
>hearing Whitney Houston sing "If..." and you know it's that
>song for the one millionth time)?
>
At KARA & KLIV, we play the annoucement cart, then hit the EBS tone
generator, then play the announcement cart again.  >


-- 
Steve Rubin				ser@netcom.com
KARA/KLIV, KJCC - San Jose		spam@anarky.tch.org
From: mcole@sub-40 (Mary Cole)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: domestic violence & the super bowl
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:59:21 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Here's a message I received today. Please add your support to it and help  
others:


|>From POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU!JRYCENGA Wed Jan 20 11:52:44 1993
|
|For political activists, or media watchdogs, or just concerned
|women, here's a quick something you can do to help prevent
|and stop domestic violence.
|
|Super Bowl Sunday - which this year is January 31, here in southern
|California at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena - is the single worst day
|for domestic violence in the USA.  There is an increase of as much as 40%  
in the volume handled by domestic violence shelters on this
|day.
|
|To try to stem this tide of violence, the Women's Action Coalition
(WAC) of Los Angeles is supporting the campaign by Fairness and Accuracy  
in Reporting (FAIR) to convince NBC (the network carrying the game) to  
carry two Public Service Announcements on domestic violence during the  
Super Bowl this year.  Anna Quindlen of the New York Times wrote a fine  
editorial in the 1/17/93 edition of the Times supporting this effort as  
well.
|
|What I am asking of you - and all your friends (please PLEASE
cross-post this to _any_ lists you can think of) - is to help us with a  
FAX/LETTER blitz on NBC, asking for these PSA's.  Here is a sample letter:
|
|Dick Ebersol
|President, NBC Sports
|NBC
|30 Rockefeller Plaza
|New York, NY  10112
|
|Dear Mr. Ebersol:
|
|We (I) support FAIR's request that you air two Public Service
Announcements on domestic violence during the Super Bowl game.  The Super  
Bowl is one of the most widely viewed television events of the year; it is  
also the day, according to women's shelters, when calls for help increase  
by as much as 40%.
|
|Your broadcast of the Super Bowl will reach a huge audience.  By your  
airing PSAs, NBC will be bringing to a national audience the critical and  
important issue of domestic violence.
|
|Sincerely,
|
|
|   You can rephrase or rewrite this letter to your liking, but please FAX  
or write them immediately.
|
|To reach NBC by FAX:  212-664-5835.
|
|   Thanks for helping - you may save someone's life, or skeletal
structure, or eyesight.
|
From: cook@bebop.esd.sgi.com (Doug Cook)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: OK, where's the Greek food?
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:40:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

I have yet to find a Greek restaurant in the South Bay. There 
was Mama Toula's in Redwood City, but they seem to have disappeared
off the face of the planet (why? or am I just insane?). I cannot
imagine such a large geographic area without Greek food, so 
I must be wrong; there must be thousands of such restaurants around
that I just happened to have missed. Please, suggestions? I know of
some in the City, but that's (sometimes) too far.

	-Doug

Doug Cook, cook@sgi.com		Software Engineer	 Silicon Graphics, Inc.

"...Men ought to be treated well or crushed, because they can avenge themselves
of lighter injuries, of more serious ones they cannot..."	-Machiavelli
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: chasi@netcom.com (Charles Inman)
Subject: REQUEST: Rest. that serves Toasted Pesto Ravioli
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:20:34 GMT

I was wondering if there is anyone out there that knows of a Restaurant that
has Toasted Pesto Ravioli on their menu.

I'll take any recomendations, but if you know of a really nice restaurant that
has a particularly good dish I would appreciate it if you would mention it.

Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated it.

Thanks in advance,

Chas

-- 


Charles Inman
chasi@netcom.com

"If the phone doesn't ring, it's me"
		- Jimmy Buffett
From: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM (elaine 'beano' leffler)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Greek Food
Keywords: yiassoo ROCKS...
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:51:36 GMT
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.eng.sun.com

In article 29929@acuson.com, galey@acuson.com (James Galey) writes:
>There's a restaurant named 'Yiassou' on Bascom just south of
>Hamilton that has excellent Greek food.  I think they also
>have another store in the Cupertino area but have not personally
>tried that location.

yiassoo's gyros are excelllent, and i've also enjoyed their moussaka.
the yiassoo in campbell is the original, and the other location is on
saratoga-sunnyvale road near bollinger, the food is equally good at
both locations, but the ambiance is a little better in campbell (the
campbell location seems to be in an old house, while the cupertino
one appears to be an old taco bell building).

elef
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: royg@netcom.com (Roy H. Gordon)
Subject: Re: Oakland Rockridge!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:51:57 GMT

Robert Chao (rchao@netcom.com) wrote:
> I eat in the Oakland Rockridge area all the time. I'd like to hear people's
> comments on:
> 
> Hunan Garden, Eve's Hunan
> - I've never taken someone there and they didn't love it

	Hunan Garden - Good food, but sometimes variable (both ways).
		Cops eat there so much my kids call it the police place.

	Eve's Hunan - I've always thought it overpriced with smallish portions,
		but I haven't eaten there in quite a while.

> Cactus Tacqeria
> - best cheaper place in the area

	Still OK, but used to be much better with larger portions (before
	they moved to their current location).

> Rockridge Cafe
> - great burgers and fries, great service - more expensive food kind of 
>   pricey.

	I'd say good, not great.

	In (stereo) typical fashion, we worked out the real estate deal
	for our house here one afternoon around a small table, so it has
	sentimental value to me.

> Pearl of Siam
> - great Thai place, generally more expensive than the Chinese two

	Just OK in my book.  There are a number of Thai places in
	Berkelely that are *much* better, to my taste, anyway.

Now my recommendation:

	Hudson Bay Cafe - best lattes on the whole of College Ave., not
		just in Rockridge.

				-- Roy
From: ed@weir.pa.dec.com (Ed Gould)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: East Bay Breakfast...
Date: 23 Jan 1993 06:21:26 GMT
Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab, Palo Alto
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: ed@pa.dec.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: weir.pa.dec.com

I wrote:
> The Brick Hut (Adeline, a block or two south of Alcatraz)

Actually, it's two blocks *north* of Alcatraz, in the block south of the
Adeline/MLK convergence just south of the Ashby BART station, on the
west side of the street.

--
Ed Gould	  ed@pa.dec.com		Digital Equipment Corporation
+1 415 688 1309	  Network Systems Lab	181 Lytton Ave, Palo Alto, CA  94301

"Unison is only one form of harmony." -- LW
From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: The most romantic BA restaurant
Date: 29 Jan 93 01:34:51 GMT
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences

In article <Marcy-270193155640@90.133.45.17> Marcy@Applelink.Apple.Com (M. Robb) writes:
>As a newcomer to the Bay Area about to plan a very special romantic night
>on the town for my husband's birthday, I find myself hard-pressed to find
>that extremely special spot.  Money is no object.  Any suggestions would be
>greatly appreciated.

I vote for Beau Sejour in Los Altos.  Quiet, elegant, gracious, and
imaginative without being outre'.  The food is better at Le Mouton
Noir in Saratoga, but it's a bit more casual and noisier.  My husband
and I have had very romantic dinners at both, though.


-- 
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From: LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Lois White)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: OK, where's the Greek food?
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:15:45 GMT
 <1993Jan27.230739.24179@cylink.COM>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Yup, Zorba's food isn't the greatest, but it IS the only place in the
South Bay to find real Greek bouzouki music!  and real (good) belly dancers!
...every night that they're open.
From: georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: East Bay Breakfast...
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:04:30 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Meta - Software

-
     Oh, I just remembered another place for breakfast: the Gilman Grill.  It's
only good, but it's very convenient when the wait at Bette's is 90 minutes.
The location is Fourth and Gilman.

     Their portions are absolutely monstrous.  I suggest splitting one entree
between two people if you're both light eaters.

							George

-- 
----
George J Wu,  Superior Maker of Technical Snafus,  georgew@metasw.com
Meta-Software,  1300 White Oaks Road,  Campbell, CA 95008,  (408) 369-5400
Never be the first to believe.  Never be the last to deceive.  ---  Chess
From: sievertl@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lisa Sieverts)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Re: Gualala (was East Bay Breakfast...)
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:46:03 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

I think the Tea Spot is great! the blueberry brown rice pancakes are
to die for.  

Lisa
From: mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Great International Ice Cream Place
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:00:49 GMT
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: venice.pa.dec.com


Ok, Ok, Ok, I'm leaving the Bay Area but I won't go without a fight.
As regards Mohan Gopalikrishnan's directions to this "REAL ICE
CREAM" place:

> at the corner of El Camino Real and Callabazas Blvd(half a block N of 
> Bowers/Kiely and about 2 locks S of Lawrence). It is behind the TACO
> Bell in the shopping Plaza.

I won't quibble about the Taco Bell, though I'm mighty suspicious because
I think that the only Taco Bell in the area---inexplicably patronized
chronically by my wife---is at Lawrence and Camino in front of the K-Mart,
but I must point out that in that area Camino runs *undeniably* East-West.

Sigh.  Maybe in Austin, with all their other foibles and deficiencies,
the residents will *at least* be familiar with direction.

(Just so's I don't sound like a complete jerk, I do appreciate the tip and
plan to try the place ASAP.  It's close to where I live, that being *South*
of Camino and *West* of Lawrence.)



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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Crow's Friend Timmy)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Monterey to San Simeon: food & lodging
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:44:31 GMT
Organization: Next Thursday A.D.

In San Simeon there is a very nice restaurant called Europa. The food is
European (in San Jose, it'd be a coat-and-tie stuffy place, but down there,
it's just good food).

-- 
            Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX)
                      Member, SFWA =+= Editor, OtherRealms
                chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ 

          I'm history! No! I'm mythology! Whatever, I'm outta here!
From: spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: EastBay Burgers
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:53:23 GMT
Organization: UCB
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: yocomputo.berkeley.edu

In response to the previous postings on Mo's Burgers in
Berkeley: Bring a fresh shirt if you have one of their
hamburgers.  They are very juicy. Took a bite out of one of
their tasty burgers, and juice squirted all over my white shirt
and the table.  Lucky that I was solo!! Bon appetit!

Dan Landis  spanga@athena.berkeley.edu