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From: leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Date: 27 Jan 1993 10:59:07 -0600
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Middle Tenn State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: knuth.mtsu.edu
Keywords: nails

>>  - Formaldeyde.  Swab it on once a week and it supposedly hardens
>>your nails.  One of my students does this, but the increased hardness
>>is apparently accompanied by increased brittleness, so although
>>day-to-day wear is reduced, the nail chips more easily.
 
>This is a really bad idea.  While it will probably work, formaldehyde
>is poisonous and carcinogenic.  Better to take up the flute.
 
Yikes.  Thanx for pointing this out.
 
Stuart LeBlanc
Guitar Instructor
MTSU Dept. of Music
leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu
From: leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: String Recommendations? (No Augustines, please...)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 11:04:49 -0600
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Middle Tenn State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: knuth.mtsu.edu

>This should go into the FAQ when one is prepared. To recapitulate one
>of the earliest threads in this group, the following strings were
>advocated by at least one poster.
>Hannabach (my favorite)
>D'Addario (Mark Basinski's choice)
>Savarez Alliance (M.B. especially likes their trebles).
 
Someone else recommended LaBella as well (the smoothwound "recording"
strings; the 10PH are pretty good also).
 
Anyways, I was at the GFA Festival in New Orleans this November, and the
Savarez representative was handing out the "New Concept" Alliance
strings.  I tried the set out and the basses are much improved, and have
their own merits apart from the D'Addario (and Augustine in fact, whose
basses are actually consistently very good and are poorly represented by
their trebles).  The "New Concept" trebles have pretty much the same
characteristics as before - unprecedented sustain and clarity, with a 
*lot* of high end on the tone, to the point of annoyance for some.  I
left the set on my instrument (cedar Ruck) for about ten weeks, and by
the end of it I was well adapted to what had at first seemed the
intractably nasty, almost scratchy sound of the strings.  I put a
regular D'Addario set back on last week, and found that I'm having to
readapt; the D'Addario trebles seem flat and unresponsive.  I think I'm
going to go with the Alliance strings for a while (and make sure my
nails are kept buffed *very* smooth...)

Stuart LeBlanc
Guitar Instructor
MTSU Dept. of Music
leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: block@dxlaa.cern.ch (Frank Block)
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Keywords: nails
Reply-To: block@dxlaa.cern.ch (Frank Block)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:05:46 GMT


In article <C1CIrA.HA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda) writes:
|> A while back somebody mentioned the possible use of the product "Hoof
|> Flex", apparently intending to protect horse's hoofs from cracking, as
|> a nail strengthener.  I've come across this product and am considering
|> trying it.  Has anybody else tried this or heard of anybody trying it?
|> Mainly I don't want to try anything that might turn out to be harmful.
|> 
|> I'm thinking I'll put it in my left hand or maybe even my toenails
|> first for a week or so before risking my right hand nails.
|> 
--

I really hope this stuff doesn't make you grow hoofs on your fingers...

	Frank

===============================================================================
Frank Block
Div. PPE
European Laboratory for Particle Physics - CERN
CH-1211 Geneve 23					BLOCKF@cernvm.cern.ch
Switzerland						BLOCKF@vxcern.cern.ch
===============================================================================
From: wack@ariel.ncsl.nist.gov (John Wack)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: REQUEST: Barrueco concert schedule
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:17:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology

>In <1j7brmINNp68@shelley.u.washington.edu> kint@rio.engr.washington.edu (Rick Kint) writes:
>
>>	Also, would any of the people who have been to his master
>>classes care to post any pearls of wisdom gained therein?  Someone
>>posted a really good point on legato playing some time ago.
>

From one class I attended, which was billed as a master class but was open
to the public so guys like me got in, I remember a Peabody Institute
student playing Bach's Prelude from the series for Cello (sorry, can't
remember exact title but most should know the popular piece I'm referring
to).  The student was near the end of the piece where you're playing some
ascending notes that culminate in a G (8th fret on B string) while droning
on the open high E string, just before the finale where you start the
ascension up to that final high D chord.  This student was doing it the
Segovia way, avoiding notes played on open strings and, if he could,
choosing a high fret on a lower string as opposed to a lower fret on a
higher string, to play a particular note.  Barrueco said, simply, "Just
use the open strings and the easier positions - it's a lot easier!"  My
instructor, who was instructed somewhat by Barrueco, mentioned that he
didn't think the effort Segovia went to in his transcriptions to use
higher frets for notes was worth it - made the pieces too hard and the
tone produced was not worth it.  Like an earlier poster said, he also
favors a straight right wrist.  I think he also told the class to dance
to the pieces they were learning to get a better feel for the music.

-John Wack
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 11:59:17 EST
From: John Hassler <HASSLER@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Recuerdos de la Alhambra (Was Re: Yepes)
 <15448.2b5425e0@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
 <1993Jan13.171417.7745@cerritos.edu> <1j4l74INN5nf@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
 <basinski-190193130825@lully.biosci.arizona.edu>
 <1jhtngINNm4m@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
 <basinski-210193133402@lully.biosci.arizona.edu>

In article <basinski-210193133402@lully.biosci.arizona.edu>,
basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski) says:
>>
>  It was not my intention to hurt anybody's feelings, but
     .......  [ rest deleted ] .............

 Re-read what you wrote.  You come off sounding rather (you should excuse the
expression) _young_.
    I have also heard that Segovia said something to the effect that, "the
melody is in the thumb".   Whatever you think of his style, Segovia was a
fine musician.  I'm sure that he knew as well as anybody the "Music
Appreciation I" definition of a melody, so he was probably trying to make
a point by hyperbole.
   Because of the circumstances, I can still remember the first time I
ever really listened to Requerdos.  The bass line was what caught my
attention; the "melody" was not in the foreground.  Since this was well
before I ever put fingerprints on a guitar, I suspect that this is a
common response.  (Supported somewhat by comments from listeners when
I have played the piece.)  Perhaps this is what Segovia had in mind.
   It would be nice if we could avoid the, "Nyaa, nyaa, I'm a better
musician than you are" mini-flamefests that occur in the group next
door.
==================================================================
john hassler        chem eng                 u of maine
From: mpaul@unl.edu (marxhausen paul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: String Recommendations?  (No Augustines, please...)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:33:17 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu

I already went through this over on r.m.m.guitar, not thinking to post
it here where it would do me more good, but to open a huge can of worms:

What do you like for strings on your classical guitar?  For some unfathomable
reason, what used to be a fair selection of classical strings in the music
stores here in Lincoln has dwindled to Augustines or nothing.

My opinion: I've used a lot of Augustines.  When they're good, they're great.
When they're not, they are WRETCHED.  I got real tired of hoping that the
next set I bought would play in tune.  (Also don't have much respect for
manufacturers who think that listing string gauges on packages is somehow
beneath the dignity of classical guitar strings.)

I was able to cop a set of Adamas strings recently that, while the tone did
not leave me speechless in wonderment, was very consistent and reliable.
Of course the music store stopped stocking them immediately thereafter.


--
paul marxhausen .... ....... ............. ............ ............ .......... 
 .. . .  . . . university of nebraska - lincoln .  . . .. . .  .. . . . . . . .
 .     .    .  .   .     .   .  .    .   .  .   .    .   .  grace .   .    .  . 
   .         .       .      .        .        .      .        .   happens .     
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Keywords: nails
Organization: Networks & Communications Consulting
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:05:41 GMT

In article <leblanc.727902627@knuth.mtsu.edu>, leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc) writes:
> 
>   - Acrylic nail surfacing.  This is done either by a manicurist
> (better, but more expensive) or by yourself with a home kit.  Basically
> it consists of coating the entire surface of the nail with an acrylic
> solution which hardens and is nearly indestructible.  since the entire
> nail is coated, it grows out with the nail itself and need be redone
> only periodically.  Although this will definitely solve your wear
> problems, many have found the playing characteristics of this to be
> unsatisfactory, both from the "cumbersome" feeling of the increased nail
> thickness and the "clacky" tone that is produced by the *very* hard
> acrylic surface.
> 

I use this regularly. It has to be re-done about every 4-6 weeks, but I
find it absolutely WONDERFUL. Until I started this, my nails would
constantly crack and be generally worthless. I have been able to stop
focusing on my hands, and start focusing on playing and music. It's
a lot more fun that way.



-- 
Rich Seifert                    Networks and Communications Consulting
seifert@netcom.com              (408) 996-0922
                                (408) 996-2860 FAX
"... specialists in Local Area Networks and Data Communications systems"
From: leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Banned from the repertoire (Was Re: Recuerdos de la Alhambra)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:36:41 -0600
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Middle Tenn State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: knuth.mtsu.edu

>radio broadcast, half seriously suggests the Recuerdos should be banned
>from the repetoire for at least 20 years! I think this is wrong. It
> should be 50 years. Another friend who is a teacher and performer,

My selection for this honor would be Leyenda.  Although I love the
piece, it is certainly the quintessential guitar piece, and all that
other great stuff, every time it gets played it reinforces the popular
notion of classical guitar as being the sole province of sombrero-wearing
enchilada eaters.  Indeed, I have received calls asking to have Leyenda
performed whilst strolling in a mariachi outfit.  

Stuart LeBlanc
Guitar Instructor
MTSU Dept. of Music
leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu
From: leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Name this tune:
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:58:36 -0600
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Middle Tenn State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: knuth.mtsu.edu

>What is the piece in the recent Lexus radio advertisement (I think it
>is Lexus)  that goes something like
>AEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDECEBEAEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDEBE...
>etc? All the notes are the same length and the piece is in the minor.
>It probably isn't written in A minor, but it's easier to write it out
>that way.
 
   DON'T TELL HIM!!!   PLEASE!!!!
 
Stuart LeBlanc
Guitar Instructor
MTSU Dept. of Music
leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans(acrylic)
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:08:30 GMT

leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc) writes:

>Sorry, but the acrylic is pretty obvious.  When properly applied and
>finished (buffed), it looks like milky-gray wax.  And if you do it
>yourself at home and don't bother buffing it, it looks truly awful.


Where is the acrylic stuff obtained, is there a brand name, etc?  I
might like to try that on my thumbnail, which otherwise seems to wear
at about the same rate (or a little it faster) as it grows, making it
impossible to get it to a usable length.
From: clopton5107@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Questions about Woods/Thank You
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:16:40 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        I would like to give hearty thanks to the people who responded to my
questions about the history of the guitar, tunings, and strings.  
        I recieved a request for a posting of the compiled answers, and intend
to satisfy it, although I can't specify a time.
        
        I have more questions.
        I recently took a 1945 Harmony Cremona (steel string arch-top) that I
inherited from my mother to a craftsman so I could find out how much some
repairs would cost.  He began discussing the various woods that the guitar was
made of. It was all lost on me.
        What are the basic woods for various parts of classical (or other)
guitars?  What are the functional and sonic differences between alternate woods
for a given part of the instrument.
               
 E-mail answers are still preferable.
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Subject: Re: Recuerdos de la Alhambra (Was Re: Yepes)
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:51:13 GMT

markc@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:

>Am I alone here in thinking the Recuerdos de la Alahambra is one
>of the most boring pieces of music ever written for the guitar? My own
>teacher, who is also a performer and has played this piece in an ABC
>radio broadcast, half seriously suggests the Recuerdos should be banned
>from the repetoire for at least 20 years! I think this is wrong. It 
>should be 50 years. Another friend who is a teacher and performer, and
>who is doing a PhD on twenteth century guitar music, once remarked that
>playing of this piece in public should be punishable by death. Perhaps
>a slight overreaction. The root of the problem is that there is much

I think this is too harsh, but I'd vote for a ban on *recording* the
piece.  It suffers horribly from overexposure, and I think Tarrega's
music, while often beautiful and very guitaristic, isn`t of such
caliber that it can be played that often and still hold your interest,
compared with, say, Bach or even the better music of Sor and Guiliani.
In the romantic idiom, I think Barrios provides some nice alternatives
to the overplayed Tarrega stuff, though perhaps Barrios will become
(if he hasn't already) equally overexposed.

But then, I have a very low boredom threshold when it comes to
romantic music in general.  I much prefer Baroque and 20th century
music to the periods between.  

While I do wince when I hear Alhambra now, and even will avoid
recordings simply because they contain it, I do remember how much I
liked it when I first heard it.

However, I think the piece requires a very good interpretation to
overcome the monotony of the rhythm and tremelo.  For example, in the
hands of somebody like Yepes, I'd say your right... it is one of the
most boring pieces imaginable.

--
Larry Broda
Dept. of Psychology
Univ. of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana
lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu
From: leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu (Stuart LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Date: 27 Jan 1993 10:57:23 -0600
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Middle Tenn State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: knuth.mtsu.edu
Keywords: nails

>There is a new hand lotion on the market from Vaseline Intensive Care
>called Hand & Nail Formula.  It is supposed to harden nails 30%
>stronger with regular use.  I just started using it 2 weeks ago so 
>I don't know whether it does or doesn't.
 
I have it on pretty good authority (they used it for a month and a half
straight) that this stuff doesn't work.  Of course, there are always
individual disparities in how effective any preparation will be, so you
may find this stuff to be *somewhat* helpful.

Stuart LeBlanc
Guitar Instructor
MTSU Dept. of Music
leblanc@knuth.mtsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Subject: Re: GFA membership
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:33:43 GMT

Jim McGehee writes:

>Please, anyone, could you comment on what, if anything, this organization
>provides to players or teachers?  I posted this note a week ago and had hoped
>for some insight.  Let me broaden the question:  Is there, in the US or Canada,
>an active organization for classical guitarists which would provide news,
>information, contacts with teachers, and leads on workshops or other events? 
>Or are we all just laboring in solitude...?

I find the biggest benefit is that every few months the Soudboard
magazine arrives, usually so late that it is full of advertisements
for events that are already past.  However, it always inspires me to
get off my procrastinating rear pick up my guitar (and sit back down
on my procrastinating rear, which will be quite sore in a few hours)
and practice.

The magazine does not list teachers, and is not really very helpful in
finding them.  However, I did find my teacher in soundboard.  The
magazine contained a brief announcement of his appointment as head of
the guitar department at a university sixty miles away, and in
desperation I called him up and was very fortunate to find that he was
able to fit me in once every three or four weeks, which is about as
often as I'd want to make the drive anyway.  

The magazine contains news, interviews and articles which are
sometimes interesting, but often not very.  There are music and
recording reviews, and some music; always one facsimile pieif easy or
intermediate difficulty and sometimes some modern mus

They also list guitar societies sometimes, which might be helpful if
there is one near you.  There are adds for schools and conservatories
which might be helpful in finding a teacher.

Becoming a member will also get you on mailing lists for
guitar-related adds, which is nice.  Once such mailing let me to
discover "Notes from Tom", which is a guy named Tom who sells guitar
strings dirt cheap through the mail.

They also publish a member directory (also containing societies) each
year.
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Recuerdos de la Alhambra -- another view
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:36:15 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.classical.guitar
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <1993Jan21.000013.29063@iconix.oz.au>, ajm@iconix.oz.au (Andrew
Mack) wrote:
> 
> I'm a rock guitarist trying to play Recuerdos de la Alhambra.
> 
> Anyway ... all this talk about accompaniment vs. melody and so on I
> think is a furphy. I think each part is equally important and
> highlights the other. Neither part stands on its own -- each needs the
> other part to bring out its own beauty.
> I don't even think of either one as being "melody" or "accompaniment".
> Nor do I think either one should be "highlighted" over the other. At
> various times in the piece, the thumb part is more melodic than the
> tremolo part, and vice versa.
> 
  If you have any concept of what musical style is about, you want
to view the piece in the context of what the composer intended. The
piece is an evocation of a song, typical of the Romantic period. You 
could give a quite convincing performance by playing the lower
(accompaniment)
part on guitar and having a singer sing the top part - it would be very
beautiful, and this melody is a typical lyric tune with spanish
style ornamentation. If you did the opposite, and played the top part
on guitar and had your singer sing the lower part, it would sound
RIDICULOUS!! I don't mean to belabor the point, but let's have a little
musical awareness here, OK?

> Take the long view. Does it really matter which part you emphasise?
  
     Yes it does.

> Remember, you're not trying to be dogmatic -- you're trying to make
> music. If it sounds good, it is good.
> 
    Depends on what you want out of music. How good is good? If it sounds
good to you, well, be happy. If you're interested in learning more
about music, you need to constantly be listening and thinking about what
makes music good, what makes one thing better than another. Musical
style is a VERY important issue. Put it another way - I Iike to use food
as a metaphor. You can get spaghetti out of a can, and if that's the 
only kind of italian food you've ever had, you might like quite well.
If ever you get some REAL italian food, you won't be quite so happy
with the canned stuff (but someone else might be). This is precisely
why the term "taste" is applied to the arts - one's taste develops with
experience, and there are certain styles to taste, etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Basinski      Internet: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: prichard@mksol.dseg.ti.com (John C Prichard III)
Subject: Re: hoof-flex for humans
Keywords: nails
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:38:10 GMT

There is a new hand lotion on the market from Vaseline Intensive Care
called Hand & Nail Formula.  It is supposed to harden nails 30% stronger
with regular use.  I just started using it 2 weeks ago so I don't know
whether it does or doesn't.
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
 	John Prichard			prichard@mksol.dseg.ti.com	       
 	Texas Instruments		Voice: (214)575-6268
From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: String Recommendations?  (No Augustines, please...)
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:30:31 GMT
Reply-To: mark@delfin.com
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale CA

This should go into the FAQ when one is prepared. To recapitulate one
of the earliest threads in this group, the following strings were
advocated by at least one poster.

Hannabach (my favorite)
D'Addario (Mark Basinski's choice)
Savarez Alliance (M.B. especially likes their trebles).

-- 
Mark Rosenberg
internet:mark@delfin.com
phone: (408) 562-1126	fax: (408) 748-1140
snail: Delfin Systems, 3000 Patrick Henry Drive, Santa Clara, CA 95054-1814
From: blom@husc15.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Name this tune:
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:17:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc15.1993Jan24.131712.19746
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

What is the piece in the recent Lexus radio advertisement (I think it is Lexus) 
that goes something like AEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDECEBEAEEEFEDEEEFEDEEEFEDEBE... etc?
All the notes are the same length and the piece is in the minor.  It probably
isn't written in A minor, but it's easier to write it out that way.

Eric Blom
Harvard U
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
Subject: Re: Copyright (Was: Tab to Vivaldi's Concerti)
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
	<1993Jan12.194857.20873@news.columbia.edu>
	<14JAN199309464786@meena.cc.uregina.ca>
	<1993Jan14.223700.2652@news.columbia.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:02:46 GMT

Every posting of a tab, score or lyric to a song is a copyright
infringement, as long as the music is not public domain or is posted
by the author.

Olav Torvund
University of Oslo
Norway
Olavt@jus.uio.no