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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: closed-caption subtitles
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:14:50 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Jul20.072518.7598@wam.umd.edu> dododge@wam.umd.edu writes:
 > Not as much of a pipe dream as you might think. Consider this:
 > 
 >    analog tracks:   dubbed English soundtrack
 >    digital tracks:  original Japanese soundtrack
 >    closed captions: English subtitles
 > 
 > It's possible, but I don't think anyone's tried it yet...

Ummm, I think there's one major problem that the distributor would have
to account for (correct me if I'm wrong, Robert).

He'd be selling THREE versions of the one feature. He may therefore be
required to buy the rights for the original (unsub/undub) version, the
subtitled one, AND the dubbed one. I think that might add up quite a
bit of money. I think that's one of the main reasons why the Criterion
LD is going to be so expensive, because it's two-in-one.

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From: ae561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Wong)
Subject: Re: moving the Expo
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:15:05 GMT


	Not a good idea...personal bias against So-Cal.  Northern
California or Southern California...the armed portion and the 
UN-armed portion of California.


also, other reasons too long for NOT splitting this CON/EXPO
I would like to see it join, like everyone else.

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From: chadwick@world.std.com (Chadwick Ngan)
Subject: Re: triva
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:01:12 GMT

In article <5200@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> LINC%DUVM.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (City Hunter) writes:
>hi there,
>
>here is a trivia for your animes buffs.
>
>Is Yellow Dancer the only male singer in animes?

	Of course not.  In the KOR OVA, "A star is born" there is a male
pop singer.  He even got his song, "Giri giri love" included in the Mogitate
Special CD.


						Chadwick
						Sheeta "the Elf"
From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: moving the Expo
Date: 26 Jul 92 05:08:06 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <1992Jul25.231505.23215@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ae561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Wong) writes:
>also, other reasons too long for NOT splitting this CON/EXPO
>I would like to see it join, like everyone else.

Who said anything about splitting Expo and Con?

I'm suggesting a rotating convention, not one in the North and one in
the South.

Agitator
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From: kilpatri@nextnet.csus.edu (Joseph Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: VP Miyu query
Organization: California State University: Sacramento
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:19:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.092558.9057@doug.cae.wisc.edu> winata@cae.wisc.edu (Charles Winata) writes:
>Hi everyone... well.. I'm sorta new here.... so I don't really know
>if what I'm asking has been battered to death... well.. here i goes
>anyway..
>
>I just watch the VP Miyu that is released by AnimEigo... both of the
>volumes... and my q is.. is that it???? any follow up??? or it's just
>that??? Man... I kinda grow to like Larva (sp?) Am kinda hoping there
>will be more to this series....
 
There are 4 Miyu stories...I am not sure if Animego put two on an LD
but if you have seen two separate stories then there are two left...
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From: ez000939@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Squid)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Where do I find them?
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:20:23 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

I'm someone who is not too familiar with anime.  My memory of it
is a badly dubbed version of Star Blazers when I was a kid.  Some
of my attitudes changed when I saw Akira.  The animation was great.
But it was a bootleg copy a guy I know had.  And it was in Japanese.
Does anyone know where I can get a hold of a copy that is 
subtitled?  After seeing enough foreign films in a film history
class I suddenly understood why foreign film freaks (I.e. "I just
love everything Ingmar ever did!") hate overdubbing.  You loose
the original emotion of the voices.  But I wax poetic.  Or something
like that.  Anyway, where can I get a hold of a copy that is 
subtitled in Northern california.  I prefer to drive not mail order.
Sacramento and the Bay area are the closest places.

On the same note, I was told that Robotech is not as stupid and mindless
as it seemed at the time, but the result of Americanization
by Harmony Gold.  (I love how people assume Americans can't handle
anything with a plot.  Just blow up shit and we'll love it!)
The guy said Robotech is actually something called Macross, Southern
Cross, and some third series that were badly edited, rewritten, and
awfully overdubbed.   Where could I get subtitled copies of these
three series.  I liked the designs they came up with visually for
certan things and am interested in the original stories.
The guy also recommended shows called Gundam, Platibor, and
something called Creme Lemon about which all he would say is,
"It's, well, adult."               

Please mail me about where I can get copies of these things.

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From: daotran@ada.seas.ucla.edu (Dao H. Tran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: WHERE CAN I GET THESE GAMES?! (was Re: Anime Games on IBM: Princess Maker and Ranma
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:14:52 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

I would also like to know where I can get these games.  Please mail me the 
info.  Thanks

daotran@seas.ucla.edu
From: hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hiroshi Haga)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: KOR Questions.
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:08:47 GMT
	<1992Jul22.013111.176@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> In article <14JUL199215565716@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> brandon@aardvark.u\
cs.u
> >Damn. What a fine series.
> 
> Am I the only person who does NOT like Kimagure Orange Road?
> 
> Should I classify myself as an endangered species? :-)

Don't worry, my three friends and I'm with you.  KOR sucks.  Death to
Kyousuke!!

Hiroshi "Death to all Otakus" Haga 
$@K'2l(J $@Bg;V(J(hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu)

"It's not true unless it makes you laugh, but you don't understand until it
 makes you weep" - a quote from Illuminatus!
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From: genef@netcom.com (Eugene Fornario)
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 07:37:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Well now, you got me curious.  You said 'otaku' has a feminine quality to
it.  What is the meaning and origin of this word?

Gene--
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Barefoot Gen, a different opinion
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:08:42 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Most of the Japanese films I have seen (or anime, at least) that deal
with war tend not to deal solely with Japanese suffering, but with the
futility of war in general...that no side seems to "win" a war for
very long.  Movies that have this pacifist angle include Wings of
Honneamise, Windaria, and even escapist fare such as Macross.
 
-RJ

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From: P0LU000 <P0LU@UNB.CA>
Subject: re: Akira Laserdisk, 3x3 eyes questions
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:56:56 GMT

I just want to thank everyone who answered
my questions.

And now, we will return to the present
insanity already in progress.... ;-)

Leslie Mills
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From: psy9kja@cabell.vcu.edu (Keith J. Andreano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: I need some Sol Bianca TIFF/GIF's
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:32:17 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
 at Jul 20, 92 3:25 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]


	PUMA want tooo!!!!!!!!!!! April is BABE&1/2!!!
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Lip-sync (Was Re: Carl's theatrical "subtitling")
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 10:59:02 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Jul21.062008.10007@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
 > >>I'm in agreement with you.  Although, it would only work during stationary
 > >>talk scenes.
 > >Nope, it wouldn't work.  If you put some stationary frames, it looks like
 > >the character is frozen while he's talking.  Trust me, it looks cheezy.
 > 
 > Who said anything about putting in *stationary* frames?  I was thinking
 > about repeating frame sequences to make the mouth open and close a few
 > more times.

Ever seen Gallforce Earth: Chapter 1? That's a pretty good indication
of what it would turn out like. (And they weren't even trying to change
the language!!!)

Alternatively, see BGCRash for some wonderful (NOT) examples of
horrible repeating... Especially when the mouth movements get mirrored
in another part of the picture (like the glass someone is holding
moving in time to the speech)... Urgh!

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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Metaljack
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:12:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.210723.21185@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
# 
# Does anyone know when this wwill be out OVA or something like that?

The TV series ended a while ago.
There has been no news of a new OVA series coming out.
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From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: VP Miyu LD
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:26:45 GMT

jfritz@amiganet.chi.il.us (John Fritz) writes:

>I just received my copy of the Vampire Princess Miyu LD and I just skimmed
>parts of it to see how good the transfer is.  The transfer came out very good.
>The picture is very clear.  However, I have two questions.

Thanks.

>1. (very minor point) Why didn't the disc have a Table of Contents? I like
>knowing the number of chapters and how long the side is when the disc spins up.
> Is it much more expensive to add a TOC?

It is not more expensive to add a TOC, but given that we list all of
the chapter marks on the jacket, and the fact that everyone I talked
to said they hated having to press PLAY for a second time...

If there is a huge outcry from the fans, we will TOC up any future
discs we do.

>2. (major point) On my equipment at least, the subtitles came out with a slight
>'ghost' to the right of the subtitle characters of almost a full character. 
>Possibly the yellow of the subtitles transfered a little 'hot'?
>Maybe someone else with the LD could check this for me.

No, the video is totally within the standards for LD, and on my LD
player (I got the disc yesterday) and TV, it looks perfect.  The
titles should be a slightly pale yellow.  That problem sounds like
there is a mismatch or problem in the cables between the VCR and the
TV, so that the signal is bouncing back and forth, causing a ghost.
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: DP auxiliary character
Keywords: Nanmo
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:40:59 GMT

In article <mumble> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:

>So, I'm scanning through Animag's synops for the DP TV eps, and I come
>across the name:  Nanmo.  Now, I don't remember seeing that name in
>Takachiho's book, nor in the OAV synops.  Who (or what) is Nanmo?  What is his
>position in the WWWA?

I think thats the robot that appeared only in the TV series (at least
as far as I know it hasn't appeared elsewhere).  It's kind of an R2-D2
sidekick to Mughi from what I've seen.

I always thought it was Namo; is it really Nanmo?

>Also, did Tsukasa Dokite also do the character designs for the TV
>series?

Can't help you there, sorry.



-- 
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From: deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Deitrich)
Subject: Re: two questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:45:51 GMT

xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet) writes:

>In article <1992Jul24.170232.23227@bnr.ca> thao@bnr.ca (Anthony Murtagh) writes:
>>In article <9207240253.AA27337@wissel.stern.nyu.edu> jmctigue@wissel.stern.nyu.edu (J C. McTigue) writes:
>>>
>>>Q1:
>>>As long is everyone is remebering poorly dubbed anime of the past, I was
>>>wonderingif anyone could help me with this one.  I think it May be
>>>Gatchaman/G-force/whatever, but I am not sure.
>>>It was a Saturday morning cartoon.  I think it was the basic team of 5 (or
>>>6) fighting against the evil enemy (aliens?).  Anyway, I think their ships
>>>joined together to form one big robot.  The one part I DO remember clearly
>>>is that there was a robot who was in a flying-saucer-like ship who entered
>>>the robots chest and was moved up to the head.  I think he was required to
>>>activate the ship.
>>>I'm not even sure this one came from Japan...

Sounds like "Mighty Orbots," which if I remember right did NOT come from 
Japan.  Five oddball robots banded together to form one BIG robot, but a 
sixth robot with a built-in key was needed to start the thing.  It used to
be one of my favorite Saturday morning shows, along with "Dungeons & Dragons"
and "Galaxy Rangers."

Ah, memories...


Dave Deitrich
One o' the Guys in charge of JACK
deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

Still desperately looking for a used VCR...
From: jwp@panix.com (JongWoo Park)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:14:14 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <Jul.27.17.42.32.1992.12155@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) writes:

>In article <712091718snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:

> > Macross/SC/Mospeada is japanese animation, Robotech is not. (Let's
> > start THAT argument again. :)

>The storyline may have been heavily Macekered (I love that phrase),
>but if it isn't Japanese Animation, what is it?

>100% animated in Japan for Japanese audiences.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Ummmm.... I would think you are wrong slightly....
HG deleted a whole bunch of sceans and added some sceans that was
not in original Macross.  These sceans were animated in Japan, but
but not for Japanese audiences.  Anyway, that's what I heard ( or
read? ) .... I never had the pleasure ( heh heh ) of watching
Robotech. 

>Steve
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From: cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Conty asked me to post this.....
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: cwagner@mickey.cc.utexas.edu

Conty appears to be "experiencing technical difficulties". This is the tail
end of some E-mail.

                            -------------


P.S.  Could you post the following for me on r.a.a.?  My server is acting
funny (can't post!! AARGH!!):
---------- cut here ----------
Some notes from the latest ADVANCE COMICS (full list as soon as I can
post):

- Sun Comics is putting ouy yet another biweekly title:  COSMOS THE CAT.
  Who ARE these people?

- AC finally got to show the "Tokuma Magical Adventures Series" of children's
  books based on Hayao Miyazaki anime.  An intriguing line in the entry for
  TOTORO (caps mine):

	Not only was the film voted best animation movie, but also
	best movie in Japan in 1988.  THE ENGLISH-LANGUAGE VERSION
	WILL BE RELEASED IN NORTH AMERICA IN THE FALL OF 1992.

  Now, I don't think the above statement refers to the book itself (the
  release date is already listed as October 6).  I can only think that
  this refers to the much-praised dubbed version of TOTORO which has been
  in the can for some time now.  Anyone know anything else about it?
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Subject: Re: Lip-sync (Was Re: Carl's theatrical "subtitling")
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:30:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.062008.10007@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
> In a previous article, conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2) says:
> >In article <1992Jul20.072018.26745@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
> >> In a previous article, shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) says: 
> >> >I am probably being naive, but why is lip-sync such a big problem when
> >> >dubbing? Why not simply put in a few more frames?
> >Nope, it wouldn't work.  If you put some stationary frames, it looks like
> >the character is frozen while he's talking.  Trust me, it looks cheezy.
> Who said anything about putting in *stationary* frames?  I was thinking
> about repeating frame sequences to make the mouth open and close a few
> more times.

Ah, but that only works in some specific cases, and I'm still not convinced
it wouldn't look choppy as compared to the rest of the animation.  Why not
do what the original animators did?  Damn the lip synching, and concentrate
on getting the ACTING right.

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