From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Aren't we forgetting something?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:24:57 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
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liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:

> erics@infoserv.com writes:

> >liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:

> >> It won't be long now until Pete Wilson, Bob Dole, Jack Kemp, Tom Kean,
> >> William Welds start to clean house remove the God-Fearing people
> >> from the leadership and revitalize the party to be what it should be -- 
> >> fiscally conservative, helping big businesses(which have its pros and cons)
> >> but moderate-liberal on social issues, and cut the mud slinging and
> >> do some real work!  

> >What you fail to realize is that people like these (who we'll pretend
> >for the moment are "moderate-liberal" on social issues; the truth is

> or they don't really care that much about it, interested in other things
> rather than having a moral outrage and waging a religious war, which is
> good enough for me, they are entitled to their own opinions and moral
> standards.  

My point is that if people like this want the support of the Republican
party, you're going see them have to start endorsing the Republican
"cultural agenda".

> >somewhat different), cannot rise to positions of power in the Republican
> >party without the support of the party's right wing. That's one of the
> >things that happened to Bush; he had to kowtow to the right so much
> >in order to secure his base that he lost most of the support of moderate
> >Democrats who had voted Republican since 1980. Those people now see
> >the Democrats as the best party to look out for their interests.

> I believe they are smart enough to do that, get rid of Pat Robertson et al.

Well, speaking of Wilson, this year he wasn't smart enough to keep his
hand-picked Senator, Seymour, from getting creamed by a moderate Democrat.
He wasn't smart enough to get his "crucial" initiative on emergency
budget powers passed (on which a lot of money was spent that could have
helped Republican candidates). He wasn't smart enough to get more Republicans
into the state legislature, even though 1990 reapportionment was very
favorable to them. I'm betting he won't be smart enough to even be re-elected
governor, let alone be considered for president.

> but at the same time pay lip service, throw some non-issues like prayers 
> at school to the God-fearing to get their votes but do little in reality 
> satisfy them(hell, like they will notice the difference)

Great, just like Bush tried to do. But neither side wants another Bush.
The Republican right wingers won't be satisfied with someone who just
gives lip service next time, and the majority of the country who just
rejected Bush aren't going to turn around and vote for a Bush clone.

>   The "liberal pinko-democrats" were never good at attract the redneck
> vote, so there's  little competition.  It's not like Mario Cuomo can
> attact votes from them.  ;->   
> 
> I think it's good to keep a viable Republican party to watch the democrats,
> otherwise, in case the demos screw up you might found yourself under
> one of the crazy right El Presidente.    

Well, I think that all the Republicans are going to be able to do for
a while *is* watch. As for being watchdogs, I don't trust either party
for that role. I'd prefer to see the American people take the responsibility.

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Eric Smith
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