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From: mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: Recent Tagalog songs 2?
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:38:14 GMT

In article <BxFuL9.KwJ@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v128rsza@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
(Kage) wrote:
> 
> Anyway, I really wanted to know if anybody know of any recent artists, and 
> their albums whose songs are sung in tagalog.  Popular and recent songs in the
> Philippines right now, do we have any?  I have Jose M Chan's album, it is 
> really good, but it is in English.  I mean, I am really into those tagalog 
> lyrics.  There are some of the words in the songs that is better expressed 
> in tagalog than in english.  
> 

I recently posted a request in this newsgroup for Filipino artists and
here's repost of the summary.  I don't know specifically about songs, but
this is a start.

Filipino Folk Groups/Artists from
Mig Gomez,  Andy Means, Les Aquino, Joey Tuason, Jr.

Traditional folk music:

Bayanihan Troupe               - (Mig)
Mabuhay Singers                - (Andy)


Folk music:

Apo Hiking Society             - More on pop songs.  Some sound
folkish.(Les)
Freddie Aquilar                - (Andy)
Asin                           - "Kapaligiran", "Itanong mo sa mga bata"
(Mig)
                               - (Andy)
                               - 2 volumes of kundiman standards with a  
                                 different arrangement (Joey)
Joey Ayala at ang Bagong Lumad - Ethnic Music (you can't be more 'real'
                                 than that).  This is sometimes referred to

                                 as alternative music here in the Phils.
(Les)
                               - great band that played intense and
poignant 
                                 songs (Joey)
Banyuhay                       - Folk.(Les)
Coritha                        - Country Folk.        
                                 may SOUND too westernized though but
lyrics
                                 are ok (Les)
Florante                       - Now in L.A. (Andy)
Heber at ang Banyuhay          - (Andy, Joey)
Inang Laya                     - Protest(?) songs / pro-women issues. (Les)
                               - (Joey)
Sampaguita                     - Folk Rock.(Les)


Marcelino Bernardo
mbernar@erenj.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: pacs@leland.Stanford.EDU (Francisco Sandejas)
Subject: SFO: schedule of events from Nov 20 to Dec 6, 1992
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:53:01 GMT

SFO schedule of activities for the next few weeks.

Friday November 20
12 nn to 1:15pm at Stanford's Old Union Clubhouse
Ms. Marilyn Santiago, General Manager of Pocket Bell, Phil,
will talk about the Telecom industry and its future.
She will spend a good amount of time answering questions
from the audience.

Friday December 4
6:30 to 8:30 pm
Mr. Dado Banatao, co-founder of Chips and Technologies and
now CEO of S3, will speak on his experiences and how students and
entrepreneurs can assist technology transfer to the Philippines.
Again, we will an informal open forum afterwards.

So people, please mark your calendars.
Be there or be quadrilateral!
e

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: Filipino rhymes or songs
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:40:39 GMT

In article <92311.142530U52892@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U52892@uicvm.uic.edu>
wrote:
> 
> Since someone started posting Filipino rhymes, I can't help
> but be a little nostalgic.....
> 
> Do you guys remember Bahay kubo? What about leron, leron sinta? Or my
> personal favorite.. tok, tok, tok, tok
>                     palatok kikok (Am I right?)
>                     alimango sa dagat
>                     malaki at masarap
>                     mahirap hulihin
>                     sapagka't nangangagat
> 
>                           or
>                     amy, susie and tessie
>                     romeo, juancho and jose marie
>                     I want singko
>                     pambili ng puto
>                     sa mga tindero ng bitcho-bitcho
>                     tinga-ling-a-ling
>                     statue!!!!
> 

OK.  How about this rhyme which we used to select the "it" when playing
hide-and-seek.

              pen pen di sarapen
              di kutsilyo, di almasen
              how how, di karabaw, batuten
              sipit namamalipit
              ginto't pilak
              namumulaklak
              sa tabi ng dagat

Of course I don't know what it really means.  

>                           or the classic?
>                     where is pinky?
>                     where is pinky?
>                     here I am, here I am
>                     how are you today, sir
>                     very well I thank you
>                     run away, run away*
>      * We used to sing this in kindergarten.... when you sing with
> both of your hands at your back and pretending every finger is a
> person greeting each other
> 
>        Do you guys remember this?

I'm not sure if this is Filipino.  My kids learned this rhyme from a book
we got from the public library.

Marcelino Bernardo
mbernar@erenj.com
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Ramos Orders Release of Soldiers
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:13:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: microlab.-111192121351
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- President Fidel Ramos, moving to bolster
his peace efforts, Tuesday ordered the release of all jailed enlisted
soldiers involved in past coup attempts and suspended court martial
proceedings against all military rebels.
	``I believe that hastening the release of detained military
personnel...will have positive bearing on the peace process,'' Ramos
said in a statement.
	``Furthermore, I wish to address the plight of enlisted personnel,
who are the most directly effected by this state of continued detention.
''
	The order will affect 42 enlisted men who were members of the right-
wing military group, Reform The Armed Forces Movement.
	The RAM was behind at least four of the seven uprisings former
President Corazon Aquino crushed during her six-year term.
	Ramos, who succeeded Aquino June 30, has granted temporary freedom to
RAM members in the past, but most were officers.
	Ramos also directed armed forces chief Gen. Lisandro Abadia to
suspend court martial proceedings against detained RAM rebels. Among
those being tried by military courts were three generals and several
senior officers.
	The twin measures were recommended by the National Unification
Commission, a body tasked to broker peace with the country's three
insurgencies -- the RAM, communist rebels and Muslim separatists.
	NUC chief Haydee Yorac said peace talks with the RAM are progressing
faster than those with the two other insurgent groups because RAM
leaders are in the Philippines and have not demanded formal talks be
held in a neutral country.
	Communist guerrillas and the Muslim secessionists have both demanded
that talks be held in third countries. The government has rejected the
demands.
From: bernal@spss.com (Raoul Bernal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: which long distance carrier
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:39:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: spssig.bernal.721434418
Organization: SPSS Inc.

jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy) writes:


>which long distance carrier costs the cheapest for calls from
>US to Manila ?

>right now I have AT&T reach out world but I think it is not the cheapest.

>jerry

I have heard MCI rates are cheaper than AT&T, especially if you enroll in
the Pacific Plan (which has been expanded to Worldwide Plan or something).
The plan costs $3.00 a month, and the rate is 77 cents a minute/tax for
calls between the designated hours (10am to 2am next day on weekdays, anytime
during weekends).  My rates are Chicago-based - I don't know if they differ
across continental US.  Plus, if you designate your Phils. number as your
Friends/Family International number, the rate drops down to 66 cents/minute
+ tax.

AT&T advertises on TV that the difference in rates is not significant, but
believe me, when you talk 30 minutes and longer, it IS significant.

Somebody else who knows of better rates than above can probably inform us
scfers.  We all can gladly use the info.

-Raoul
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are those of the author and not of SPSS, Inc.
bernal@spss.com                                 Phone:(312)329-3370
Raoul A. Bernal                                 FAX  :(312)329-3657
From: amelito@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Amelito Enriquez)
Subject: Re: Pala-isipan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:13:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.140100.9718@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> cayabyab@apache.enet.dec.com (Willie Cayabyab) writes:
>
>
>    Let's get into a little brain boggler.
>
>    Isang Mama na may kasamang palay,isang manok,at isang kambing ay tatawid
> sa ilog. Pwedeng laman ng bangka ay dalawa lang. Papaano niya itatawid ang
> lahat ng mga ito ? May kasilanan ito dahil kung una niyang itatawid ang
> kambing, ang manok ay kakainin niya yung palay.
>
>    Isip ........
>
> Willie 

Sagot:
	Isakay ang manok at palay, tumawid ng ilog, at iwanan ang palay.  
Dalhin pabalik ang manok at kunin ang kambing.  Tumawid kasama ang kambing
at manok.

	Sandali.  Sabi mo puwedeng dalawa sa bangka, kasama ba iyong Mama
sa bilang ng dalawa?

Amelito
From: v128rsza@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Kage)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Recent tagalog songs?
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I hear a lot of songs from different Asian countries.  I am very fond 
of recent Chinese music.  Somehow, the melody reminds me of Filipino songs.  
I know I can't understand the words but the fact that the words are in Chinese 
gives it an appealing taste.  The Filipino songs I know are sung mostly in 
English.  It would be nice though if it was sung in tagalog.  At least, I can
feel and hear what I am listening to in a nationalistic sense.
	Does anybody know any Filipino artists and their albums, who sing
in tagalog?  I am basically interested in recent Tagalog love songs.  The 
only artist I can remember was Sharon Cuneta.  Are their more recent ones?

The most recent song from the Philippines that I heard was the tagalog version
of "Saigo No Iwake".  

Thanks a lot for your help.

						Kage
From: leon@garnet.berkeley.edu (Leon C. Salcedo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Filipino Club Networking, Bay Area
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Date: 12 Nov 1992 00:28:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov11.225343.21156@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c164-ad@po.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) writes:
>Did anyone ever think of networking with other clubs/organizations around
>the Bay Area?  Well here's a chance for all of us to start talking!
>
>
 That would be nice but how many Pinoys/Pinays out there have a Unix account
 and at the same time participate in social club?


 leon

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: u9211306@cc.uow.edu.au (Elpidio S Jabonete Jr)
Subject: Re: Pala-isipan
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 01:01:27 GMT

ROCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET 's reply to Willie's puzzle :

||
||    Let's get into a little brain boggler.
||
||    Isang Mama na may kasamang palay,isang manok,at isang kambing ay tatawid
|| sa ilog. Pwedeng laman ng bangka ay dalawa lang. Papaano niya itatawid ang
|| lahat ng mga ito ? May kasilanan ito dahil kung una niyang itatawid ang
|| kambing, ang manok ay kakainin niya yung palay.
||
||    Isip ........

|| Willie

|->     Tatawid ang Mama kasama ang manok, babalik ang Mama at kukunin ang
|->  kambing, tapos babalik na naman ang Mama at kukunin ang palay...tapos
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	E di naiwan ang manok at kambing sa kabila ?? 

	Naku, buti na lang kung di kumakain ng manok ang kambing (!!??? !!)

		Isip ... ;+} 
	SIRIT ....


-- 
            *******************************************************
	    * Elpidio S. Jabonete , Jr.  |  "Life is a hamburger" *
	    *   ----  o)) ((o ----       |     --Bread Baker      *
	    *******************************************************
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: "noli trivia"
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:12:59 GMT
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, albert@mathlab.sunysb.edu (Jose Ramon Albert) says:

>bonus :  what is the full name of our national hero? 

O sige na nga.  Dahil wala pang nakakasagot nang seryoso...

Jose Protacio Mercado Rizal y Alonzo Realonda.

Hmmm... parang may nakalimutan yata ako.  Kulang ba?

-- 
    Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., CWRU grad student & roboticist wannabee

   "Bullwinkle, that man's intimidating a referee!"    |    My boss is a 
   "Not very well.  He doesn't look like one at all."  |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa)
Subject: Re: Local Brown
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:33:51 GMT

In article <mbernar-091192102733@126.10.4.43>, mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo) writes:

|> From your internet address, I don't think you're in the Philippines.  So,
|> how were you able to watch a Filipino TV show?  Is there such a show in
|> your area?

Yup.  Starts at 10 am every Saturday and Sunday and ends at 1.  And then,
daily at 6:30pm, it's news from Manila.  This is on channel 26, although
this probably won't make any sense to you.

-- 
        ~
Aimee Manosa		aimee@wpd.sgi.com
			Silicon Graphics, Inc
From: MA.LCT@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lyn C Tadena)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Pilipino American Wareness Week at Stanford
Date: 10 Nov 1992 10:06:46 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu


To SCFers and friends in the neighboring area of Stanford
University, please join us.



      _________________________________
      Pilipino American Awareness Week
      _________________________________

          TODAY, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10
               Bario Fiesta

     White Plaza is the site for PASU version
     of the small town Pilipino festival.  Watch
     performances of the "Tinikling", enjoy lumpia,
     sotanghon, and bibingka at our food sale, and
     enjoy the music of Stanford's World Rhythm DJs.

     11:30am-1:00pm  White Plaza

Sponsored by the: PILIPINO AMERICAN STUDENTS UNION


Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa)
Subject: Re: know any filipino stereotypes?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:40:40 GMT

What about the 'save face' stereo-typical attitude.  This is probably
not a good one, but it's true.  Filipinos don't like to be put in an
embarassing situations in front of others.  They'll try to cover up
as much as they could; real pretentious.


Also, what about the 'utang na loob' attitude.  This is very pinoy.

Hey...what about 'filipino time'?  I'm sure *everybody* here knows 
about pinoy time!  You ask folks to come to a party an 7, and what time
will Filipinos come in?  ;-)

So, the above examples are a tad derogatory (well, sort of), but it
is true, isn't it?


-- 
        ~
Aimee Manosa		aimee@wpd.sgi.com		Opinions are mine
			Silicon Graphics, Inc
From: bernal@spss.com (Raoul Bernal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Pala-isipan
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:10:53 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

cayabyab@apache.enet.dec.com (Willie Cayabyab) writes:

>    Let's get into a little brain boggler.
>    Isang Mama na may kasamang palay,isang manok,at isang kambing ay tatawid
> sa ilog. Pwedeng laman ng bangka ay dalawa lang. Papaano niya itatawid ang
> lahat ng mga ito ? May kasilanan ito dahil kung una niyang itatawid ang
> kambing, ang manok ay kakainin niya yung palay.
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    

This is REALLY brain-boggling.   :)

-Raoul
From: abner@wente.llnl.gov (Abner F. Bello)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: know any filipino stereotypes?
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:22:51 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <BxFu0K.KLt@acsu.buffalo.edu> v586kcnz@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Tuuyen T Nguyen) writes:
>Hi, I'm writing a paper on filipino stereotypes and would appreciate any information
>ation on the topic. In addition, I'd also like everyone's response to this
>type of discrimination. Also, does anyone feel there is more or less racism
>towards a filipino as compared to the other asian races such as the Chinese
>or the Japanese? Thank-you for your time and cooperation.

Well, Filipinos are known to be witty, intelligent,
good-looking and charming.  These are just stereotypes, but I
generally find these to be true of Filipinos.  Anyone care to
disagree?

I believe that Filipinos have been subject to less discrimination than
the Japanese or Chinese because Filipinos tend to assmilate more so than these
Asian counterparts.  The Filipino community is weak (again, relatively),
is less visible, and hence more difficult to discriminate as a whole.

Of course you'll have to do your homework and discuss the Filipinos
who came here to the United States (especially Hawaii and California)
as farm workers in the 30's and 40's.  That wave of Filipino immigrants
probably experienced just as much discrimination as the Chinese and
Japanese of that time (well, maybe not as much as the Japanese 
because of WWII).


******************************************************************
Abner Farrales Bello
Department of Applied Science (it's really a physics department)
University of California, Davis/Livermore
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Livermore, California

abner@wente.llnl.gov
******************************************************************
From: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Subject: TV Shows was Re: Local Brown
Reply-To: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:19:38 GMT

While we're on this topic, I wonder if Ryan Ryan Musikahan
gets shown anywhere. I think of all the shows I know on
Filipino TV, this is the one I miss the most. When I went
home last Sept, I caught only 2 shows, with the Side-A
band (yup, I have the album now!), and another with the
pop stars of the 60's (the only one I recognized was Tirso
Cruz III, but my mom was hopping up and down with glee).

I miss the old episodes, when they had Rage and Martin Nievera,
or when they had the (pre) cast of Ms Saigon around.

A low budget show, but a stroke of genius!

-rich
rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu

"Tirso Cruz? kapatid ni Tom Cruise?"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: garces_ro@uswrsl.enet.dec.com (JRG)
Subject: Re: know any filipino stereotypes?
Organization:  WSLMC Sunnyvale
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:41:22 GMT

	Here's another good one that my girlfriend mentioned to me.
	Being from a different racial background she's wondering about
	it. Here it goes:

	Filipinos always have a "tabo" in their bathroom. We all know
	that we don't need them to take a bath right. So, Iknowyouknow
	whatImean. 

	

	---------
	JR Garces
From: ROCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Pala-isipan
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:43:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: CUNYVM.92316.114346ROCHC
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <1992Nov9.140100.9718@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>,
cayabyab@apache.enet.dec.com (Willie Cayabyab) says:
>
>    Let's get into a little brain boggler.
>
>    Isang Mama na may kasamang palay,isang manok,at isang kambing ay tatawid
> sa ilog. Pwedeng laman ng bangka ay dalawa lang. Papaano niya itatawid ang
> lahat ng mga ito ? May kasilanan ito dahil kung una niyang itatawid ang
> kambing, ang manok ay kakainin niya yung palay.
>
>    Isip ........
>
> Willie

     Tatawid ang Mama kasama ang manok, babalik ang Mama at kukunin ang
kambing, tapos babalik na naman ang Mama at kukunin ang palay...tapos
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ajpg1322@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Angelo J. Paguia)
Subject: Re: know any filipino stereotypes?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:15:27 GMT

aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa) writes:

>What about the 'save face' stereo-typical attitude.  This is probably
>not a good one, but it's true.  Filipinos don't like to be put in an
>embarassing situations in front of others.  They'll try to cover up
>as much as they could; real pretentious.

NO, NO ! That's not true at all ! I swear !  How can you say that in
front of all these people ?!!! I'll even sell my pig to prove my point !
Geez, I can't believe you'd say something like this !

Angelo

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: c164-ad@po.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero)
Subject: Celebration of Filipino American Heritage: CAL
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:00:16 GMT

Anyone in the area or willing to come here is invited!

This event is brought to you by U.C. Berkeley clubs:
  Kababayan			Pilipino Association for Health Careers
  Pilipino Academic Student Services
  Pilipino Association of Scientists, Architects, and Engineers
  Pilipino American Alliance
  Pilipino American Alumni Chapter
  Maganda
  Pilipino American Mentorship Program

   Date: Thursday, November 19
   Time: 7 pm to 9 pm
   Place: Foothill General Assembly Room (Hearst Ave. and LaLoma Ave, Berkeley)

Some of our acts will include:
  speaker from the Filipinop American National Historical Society
  Alex Esclamado
  Singing
  Folk Dances
  "The Science of Lumpia" (done by our Scientists & Engineers, of course)
  Filipino Game Workshop
  Original Filipino writing


But best of all, 
   It is FREE!!!

(and food will be served, too)

All who can make it are invited.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ajpg1322@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Angelo J. Paguia)
Subject: Re: Recent tagalog songs?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:32:54 GMT

On the topic of tagalog songs, I was in a Cantonese restaurant in
Chicago once that was playing Chinese music, or so I thought. Correct
me if I'm wrong, but I was pretty sure that the tune was "Anak"
by Freddie Aguilar (is that the right singer?) with Chinese lyrics,
singer, and some Chinese musical embellishments. Has anybody ever 
heard of this kind of musical exporting or trade to, say Hong Kong
or Japan, or was I just mistaking a similar tune ?

I seriously doubt that Aguilar copied a Chinese piece because the
tune didn't sound like regular Chinese music that I had heard before.
If I'm right, then it's nice to know that the Cantonese are listening
to our music, too.(It makes sense since most Chinese in RP are from
Hong Kong and can handle importing and exporting of dry goods as well
as music. Or is this the result of exporting Filipino singers abroad?)

Angelo
ajpg1322@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: v586kcnz@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Tuuyen T Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: know any filipino stereotypes?
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi, I'm writing a paper on filipino stereotypes and would appreciate any information
ation on the topic. In addition, I'd also like everyone's response to this
type of discrimination. Also, does anyone feel there is more or less racism
towards a filipino as compared to the other asian races such as the Chinese
or the Japanese? Thank-you for your time and cooperation.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino