HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME)
Subject: Re: looking for an assembler
Reply-To: evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME)
Organization: Digital Equipment Service Industries Solutions Company Ltd
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:54:12 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.134200.7860@a.cs.okstate.edu>,
cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI) writes:
>
>An early version of DevPak by HiSoft was distributed on a magazine disk,
>I recon it's available.  It has an Assembler/Debugger and (I think) an
>editor!
>

  Just to clarify a little... It's available if you bought the magazine or
presumably a back-issue. It's _not_ PD just because it's appeared on a
magazine disk.

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| DESISCo - Digital Equipment Service Industries Solutions Company Ltd |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Subject: Postscript to Image ???
Summary: etc etc etc
Keywords: Postscript Conversion
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:49:43 GMT

Greetings

I seem to recall somewhere that a program exists to convert a postscript file
to an image file of sorts.

I believe its public domain.

If anybode can shed light on this, please Email me directly.

Thanks

 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: vombruch@quando.quantum.de (Stefan vom Bruch)
Subject: Re: Atari marketing was: ding dong.. who's there ? Dr who..
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:55:18 GMT

In <oliver.714758617@damabus> oliver@damabus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Meyer) writes:
[...]
>And if you have seen the fair in Duesseldorf (as I did) you would
>know, that Atari hasn't learnd anything about marketing. It was a 
>desaster in my eyes. A little show with lots of pauses and a 
>guy doing the speech, who wasn't a seller, but a grandpa. He told
>us, what could be done in the future, but not now. You don't sell
>anything this way.

There wasn't much he could do apart from telling us what might be possible
and what could be done - not because the Falcon isn't able to handle it at the
moment but simply because the software isn't available yet. That's hardly
surprising however, considering the fact that the Falcon has just been
released.
Apart from that, when he was talking about image processing for instance, 
he mentioned the photo-CD - a medium which itself isn't available yet.
The few demos they had showed real potential - a demo says more than 
1000 words.

Jan T. Kim (aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de) wrote:
: Who cares how "professional" a presentation show is  done?  Would
: you  have been more impressed if the Falcon had been presented by
: Claudia Schiffer?? ;-)
Probably not - but I think I would have enjoyed it more :-)

See ya, Stefan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: V22. V32....?????
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:49:25 GMT



Could someone tell me what all the diferent 'v' protocols and the MNP
protocols on modems do?

(such as)

V22, V32, V32bis, V42 etc.  and MNP 1 to 10 (if available)
there are other V-protocols, like another 'bis' type (what does that
stand for!?)

Any information would be much appreciated!  In E-Mail would be good,
so save on band-width, but there may be other users out there who may
find this information useful?!?!
-- 
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                   $$$$$$$$ Nil Mortifi Sine Lucre $$$$$$$$
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: os@IKP.Uni-Koeln.DE (Oliver Stuch)
Subject: Re: Falcon and A/D
Organization: Institute of Nuclear Physics, University of Cologne, Germany
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 09:25:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.155705.264@athena.cs.uga.edu>, kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug27.081037.19661@hsr.no> leikvoll@hsr.no (Morten Leikvoll) writes:
|> >There is much talk about if the Falcon has an A/D. It doesn't need one!
|> >If they have build in a comparator (probably already in the DSP), the DPS can
|> >emulate an A/D with the help of successive approximation...
|> >
|> >-Morten Leikvoll (Is it short enough?)
|> 
|> The Falcon has a built-in stereo 16-bit CODEC (A/D COder & D/A DECoder).

What does this CODEC code/decode ? Sorta S/P-DIF decoder ?
Or is it just a plain A/D-D/A converter ?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se
Subject: Re: JAGUAR - graphics, could it be?
Originator: etxansk@garbod20
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:15:14 GMT

baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>> [Len Stys writes: ...]
>> ...
>> ... It will most likely used interlace since it can be displayed on
>> a television.
>> ...
>> Video Gaming should be pretty exciting in the future where
>> Atari products are concerned.

>	It might use Interlace.... and you are excited about it?  

>	Yuck!   That sounds like a nasty form of torture, or perhaps it will
>be like those products you buy to kick the smoking habit, only this one will
>kick the video game habit.  You see, these great games will come out for it
>with awsome sound and kick-butt graphics, but everytime you play the game, it
>gives you this splitting headache.  Since everything eles would be nothing
>compared to it, and since you wouldn't be able to stand playing the Jaguar,
>you'd eventually kick the habit, go blind, or go nuts.

 I would say: It depends. If you use interlaced graphics to display, say,
a word processor's text and take advantage of the improved detail, it
will flicker badly.

 If you, on the other hand, use interlaced video to display computer
game screens with smooth shading between adjacent screen lines, you
won't notice the flicker any more than while watching TV.

 Generally, the flicker in interlaced video modes is noticeable only
when bright and dark screen lines are displayed next to each other, only
then the low frame rate becomes obvious.

 Anders Skelander, Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mac Portable vs. ST Portable
From: morris@divsun.unige.ch (mike morris)
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:21:16 +0200
Reply-To: morris@divsun.unige.ch
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

In article 224620SML108@psuvm.psu.edu, SML108@psuvm.psu.edu () writes:
>I have a friend who wants a laptop Macintosh.  This much is locked in stone.
>Since the mac portable costs ^$5000, I would like to hear from people who
>have experience with ST portables running Spectre GCR.  How much can
>one get one for and how good are they compared to the mac portable?
>
>Scott


A year or so ago, I used Stacey (2 Mb RAM) very happily with Spectre GCR 3.0. 
I didn't have any problems, except the lump sticking out of the side!

Mike M.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: New operating systems (OS/2-TOS)
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:29:07 GMT

In article <H.JHXj&6Ouz4Y@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org writes:
>In <92232.114652RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>, Julian F. Reschke writes:
>> >What is the fastest Motorola processor?
>> 
>> 68040/33 Mhz. Seems to be comparable to a Sparc chip.
>
>That was yesterday, guys. Coming from Atari fair I can
>tell you that I've seen a ST/TT-Compatible with a
>68040 CPU running at 60 (= sixty!) MHz.
>The GEM_TEST.PRG benchmark was finished in about
>three seconds...

More likely the 040 is running at 30MHz externally and 60MHz internally.
Intel is using this scam in their 50MHz 486DX2 chips and it sounds like
this same trick is being used by the company whose product you saw.  
Don`t worry though, the 040 is faster at any clock speed than the 486
and such deceptions really are not needed.  However, they may be running
a 25MHz chip at 30MHz and there could be problems.

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu




Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Is UMich Archive Still Around?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: 27 AUG 92 08:36:43    

The same sad story again...I've been unable to get contact with the archive at
UMich via ftp the last couple of weeks, are they still there?  Also been unable
to get ahold of the Panarthea archive.

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Excuse my ignorance...
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:00:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug27.053458.17951@u.washington.edu> mpark@u.washington.edu writes:
>
>...but did somebody say there's going to be an Atari show
>in California next month?  I gotta start paying attention.
>Where can I find out more?  Will a Falcon be there?
>
>-- 
>Ciao-abunga!           +-------------------------------------+
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>mpark@u.washington.edu +-------------------------------------+

The Southern California Computer Faire is Sept. 12-13 at the Glendale Civic
Auditorium (in Glendale, CA of course).  General admission is $6 per person
per day (or $10/person for both days).  For more info, contact:

          John King Tarpinian
          c/o H.A.C.K.S.
          249 N. Brand Blvd., #321
          Glendale, CA  91203
          (818)246-7276
          GEnie: JOHN.KING.T

A showing of the Falcon030 at the Glendale show is expected, but not promised.



For some of the rest of you interested in the digital audio abilities of the
Falcon030, for what it's worth, the output uses a bitstream 1-bit D/A 
converter w/ 80 times oversampling.  Since the D/A converter is on the same
chip as the A/D converter, the input may be the same.


Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jhurwitz@access.digex.com (j. hurwitz)
Subject: New BBS w/ ST support!
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:12:58 GMT

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 12:32:11 GMT

In <Bu1Dyu.IA0@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> gbcusg@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (I. Barnett) writes:

>In your post, you say that the latest Mac LC (the LCII) is better that the
>Falcon.  Where do you get this from?  The LCII is a 16 Mhz '030 : tie.  It will
>support 16-bit graphics but only up to a 13" monitor...for mor color/resolution
>you need a graphics card.  The Falcon's sound just kill the LCII.  The LCII is
>in direct comptetion with the Falcon, not the Classic II, plus the Falcon is
>cheaper.  The only thing that the LCII has is a superior O/S but TOS is
>getting better.

It's in the eye of the beholder whether TOS  or  the  Mac  OS  is
better.  I  just  don't  understand why so many beholders in this
group deem the Mac OS better...

Greetinx, Jan

 +- Jan Kim -- X.400:    S=kim;OU=vax;O=mpiz-koeln;P=mpg;A=dbp;C=de -+
 |             Internet: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de               |
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From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: jpg format converter
Date: 2 Sep 1992 22:17:05 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

	Sure there is.  Get djpeg off of atari.archive.  It is a freeware
(I think) program that will convert .jpg to .gif.

-Mike

BTW:  Gemview 1.1l and greater will view .jpg files.
From: timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Bug in Ghostscript 2.41 ?
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:16:38 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Center for Relativity

In article <H.4dPV2w2&y5c@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org writes:
>In <1992Aug20.130047.18037@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>, REISSENAUER BERNHARD writes:

>Who ported this 2.41 to the Atari?
>Perhaps he should concentrate on 2.5, which is the current version.

I did. GS 2.5 had not been released when the original article was
posted. I am working on the 2.5 port now, but will probably not
post anything until 2.51, which is promised soon. Regarding the
possible bug in 2.41, I believe the poster was using setup files
from 2.31 with 2.41, which most certainly causes a crash.

>BTW: I'd like to have a color TT-VDI-driver implemented !!

The current screen driver does work in TT medium res (4 color), although
the color mapping is messed up. I may add 8 bit color and try to fix the
color mapping some in 2.51.

>> The program gemgs seems to have a bug, too. Together with NVDI version
>> 2.03 the program bombs, without NVDI it works, but the mouse pointer
>> looks like a busy bee all the time.

>What does gemgs do? Never heard about it. Sounds interesting!
>If these bugs are fixed, someone should upload it to a.a.

GemGS is a GEM shell for ghostscript.  I know of at least one person who
is using gemGS with NVDI, although I do not know which version. I have
no way to investigate this problem (I have no NVDI), but source is
included, and anyone who experiences difficulties is welcome to look for
themselves (I would appreciate knowing if any problems are found).

One busy bee bug is fixed (but there is apparently another), and a
couple of bugs not mentioned in the previous post have been repaired
also.  I plan to fix the remaining known bugs this weekend and will put
the new program on lifshitz.ph.utexas.edu. As soon as atari.archive is
back in working order (i.e. you can see what you want to download), I
will upload all the latest ghostscript stuff there.

-Tim Gallivan
timg@landau.ph.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: uace0@menudo.uh.edu (Enthusiasts)
Subject: More beta testers
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:18:56 GMT

Double Click Software is in need of more qualified beta testers.  We can't tell
you what we are beta testing, but if you can read this, you should be qualified.
<grin>  If you are interested, you will be required to sign a non-disclosure in
order to begin testing.  You do not need to have any programming experience or
technical expertise to test this new, unyet named product.  You will need to
have some time on your hands and a seriously fun attitude, but be committed to
doing your part in helping us complete our product.

The last beta-testing we did on the internet went so well, we wish to do it
again.  Kudos to all of you netters!  Keep up the Atari spirit.

Thanks,

Michael B. Vederman / president / Double Click Software
-- 
Signature?  Signature?  We don't need no stinkin' signature!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Craig Shore)
Subject: Re: ARJ compression utilities?
Reply-To: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:49:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.200534.18322@mits.mdata.fi>, paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau) writes:
>
>I've been seeing a lot of .ARJ packages lately, but I haven't seen any
>ARJ compression utility for the ST. Are there such utilities? Where
>can I get them from? (I do have an ARJ unpacker, but I'm curious where
>all thes .ARJ packages come from).

They come from the IBM and Archimedies(sp?). Dunno about the Arch,
 but on the IBM, ARJ is slow... whereas on the ST, it's the fastest
 best compression one around...and still we don't have a program to 
 compress arj files :-(

Any of you programers want to write one? :-)

 Craig.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Subject: Re: GEM.. what needs to be fixed, and soon!
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 12:19:52 GMT

In <1992Sep04.085511.23890@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher) writes:

>Secondly, for the Atari non-intel based machines to be taken seriously at
>all they have to run a set of de facto standard software. It doesn't really
>matter if the Atari specific software is more powerful or even cheaper, it's
>just a fact of life.

If it doesn't really matter, then why should anyone  have  an  ST
instead  of  a  PC  or  Mac?  The  software  for the 680x0 Ataris
generally has a much  better  performance/price  ratio  than  the
software  for  any other platform. Some pieces of ST software are
without counterparts on any other  system,  and  the  best  thing
about  it  is  that  some of that stuff is even free! To me, that
makes a big difference.
If you want to use "de facto standard software", get  yourself  a
"de  facto  standard machine". If you want something better, have
an Atari. But don't expect that  to  be  100%  problem  free.  As
someone  has once stated: "Many who have been ahead of their time
had to wait for it in uncomfortable shelters."

>The only way I can see for this to happen is to produce
>and release to developers an interface library which will allow them to just
>compile and sell their code from another machine. Maybe the interface
>library could emulate the MAC-OS system calls (though I guess Apple would
>have something to say about that).

Creating libraries is usually something  the  developers  do  for
themselves.  If they program in a too system-specific, unportable
way, this is their problem. Atari for developing  their  own  OS,
not for emulating others.

 +- Jan Kim -- X.400:    S=kim;OU=vax;O=mpiz-koeln;P=mpg;A=dbp;C=de -+
 |             Internet: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de               |
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From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Snork demo, last session :
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:51:22 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <7777@laas.laas.fr> doucet@ripolin.laas.fr writes:
>
>The real names are snork_1a.msa and so on...
>(Underline characters are missing in the Samos post).
>
>This demo is worth looking at...

Speak for yourself!  Personally, I'm sick to death of all these lame
demos.  They're not good for anything.  I wish the people who did
some of these things would do something productive and useful with
their talents rather than all this demo crap.  I wouldn't even mind
if they were just graphics and sound demos as long as they didn't
have all those stupid, boring, useless, immature, and annoying 
scrolltexts/greetings/credits.  The SNORK demo claims to be 2 years
in the making -- what a waste of time!!!  If everyone's seen at 
least one demo, there's nothing new to see here, so save your time
getting the 1.5MB of files for this yet-another-lame demo.  I 
downloaded it because of the hype it was getting, so I thought it
was different.  My mistake!  It's the same damn crap that's in 
every other demo disk.

Steve "No mail! -- This ain't my account!" Johnson
GEnie: S.JOHNSON10
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: churchm@gov.on.ca (Mike Churchward)
Subject: Toppings for plain Vanilla
Organization: Government of Ontario
Distribution: global
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:39:39 GMT

Hi.  I'm new to this group so hopefully this is a good place to start.

I've had my good old 1040 ST for a number of years, and I've recently
just upgraded to a Mega-4 STe.  Up until now, I've really done nothing
serious with it; but I'd like to start.

My machine is "plain Vanilla".  I'm using almost no extra software; just
the stuff that came with it (excluding things such as word processors,
programming languages, etc.).

Can someone advise me on what I need to "spice it up". I've seen that
people seem to be using different file selectors, GUI's, multi-tasking
shells, etc.  Where should I start, and where should I look?

Thanks in advance,

	Mike.
-- 
churchm@ndm.gov.on.ca (Mike Churchward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: Need info of EtherNet card for TT
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:30:44 GMT

I received the following request from a user at Concordia University.
If any netter has info, please E-mail a message to me. Thanks.
===================================================================

I have a TT that I would like to connect to an
Ethernet network.  In May, Atari Canada told me that they had an
ethernet card (the Riebl-Card plus) along with ST/X-windows that
would do very nicely. I would very much appreciate any information you can 
give me about this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,rec.music.marketplace
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: DX-Android (ed/lib) for sale
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:27:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I have Hybrid Arts DX-7 (and TX) editor/librarian.  It has some interesting
features such as randomizing patches, combining, etc.  Original disk and manual,
asking $25 including shipping or best offer.

Regards.
-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com