From: dbm@ssd.intel.com (David Minturn)
Subject: Re: Request for show info/experiences
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:15:18 GMT

>> OK, I'm trying to correct my little explanation on the points received
>> in a show in the FAQ.  Does this chart look right now?  How about the
>> explanation?  Where do the best-in-show's fit in? Do they get points?
>> Why would specials compete for points when they already have their CH?
>> All comments welcomed, thank you.

Once a dog obtains a Championship, the dog may be shown to obtain a 
national rating in its breed, group or all groups.  Many national breed
clubs keep track of the top ten show dogs and bitches in the breed.
This rating is done by adding up all of the dogs of the same breed
that a dog has won over for a given calendar year.  Each breed club
is a little different in the way they compute it, the one for my breed 
for instance, (American Rottweiler Club), computes it by the Best of Breed
getting the total # of Rottweilers defeated -1 and Best of Opposite getting
the total number of Rottweilers of the same sex defeated - 1 , (unless the
dog of the same sex went Best of Winners, then the BOS winner gets to add
all the class dogs of the same sex).

Along with the breed club rankings, there are several other all breed systems
that deal with number of dogs defeated in the same group and total number of
dogs defeated.  This is why you see dogs rated differently depending on what
system they are talking about, i.e. Canine Chronicle, Kal Kan, ...

>> BEGIN EXCERPT
>>
>> A Champion must obtain 15 points.  Of those 15 points, two majors (a
>> show where 3, 4, or 5 points are won) must be obtained under two
>> different judges.  The remaining points can come from 1 or 2 (or
>> more!) point shows; at least one of these must be from a third judge.
>> A dog must win at least the Winners Dog (WD) or Winners Bitch (WB) to
>> get points.  So even if your dog wins a class, you don't necessarily
>> get points.  It's only the top two dogs within a breed in competition
				     ^ Non Champion
>> that get points.  You don't get anything for second place, but a
>> ribbon, some recognition as an upcoming hopeful, and some experience.
>>
>>Best of Breed (BOB) or Best of Opposite Sex (BOS) may *add* points for
						
Or Best of Winners, where the dog or bitch gets the higher of the dog or
bitch points.

>> the dog or bitch that win them, as the total dogs to consider for
>> points is now the *greater* of either dogs or bitches with the special
>> dogs/bitches added in as well.

This is only true for Best of Breed.  It is possible to go Best of Opposite
but not Best of Winners in which case you add the number of specials of 
the same sex to the number of class dogs or bitches to compute the points.

>>  This can turn a 2 point win into a
>> major.  (Special dogs are dogs with their CH; they do not compete in
>> the classes.)
>> 
>> The number of points obtained at a particular show is dependent on the
>> number of dogs or bitches present, the breed, and the geographical
>> location of the sho.  There is a point schedule that determines the
>> ranges: rarer breeds require fewer dogs for points whereas popular
>> breeds must have more dogs present for the same points.
>> 
>> 
>> A short chart:
>> 
>>                     Best of Breed (points toward CH from largest group,
>>                                 incl. specials)
>>                           |
>>                   Best of Opposite Sex (points toward CH from largest group,
>>                                         plus specials of same sex)
>>                           |
>>                     Best of Winners
					 (points toward CH from largest class
					  of either sex of class dogs.)
>>                     /           \
>>             Winner's dog    Winner's bitch   (points towards CH from
>>                                               same sex group)
>>               /                           \
>>   (first in each class advances to Winner's competition; specials
>>    compete for Winner's dog or Winner's bitch directly)
>>           Open class                  Open class
>>           American Bred               American Bred
>>           Bred by Exhibitor           Bred by Exhibitor
>>           Novice                      Novice

	     (12 to 18 month class)

>>
>>           Puppy dogs (9 - 12mo.)      Puppy bitches (9 - 12mo.)
>>           Puppy dogs (6 - 9 mo.)      Puppy bitches (6 - 9mo.)


Dave.

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