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From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: cat food fights!
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:45:05 GMT

Now that Slinky and Nerfball the new kitten are settling down into
something of a routine, it's becoming apparent that we're having a
problem with food.  Nerfball is less than 5 months old and is supposed
to still be eating kitten chow, but he keeps trying to raid Slinky's
bowl of meow mix instead.  (I guess it tastes better.  Slinky shows
absolutely no interest in eating kitten chow.)  Slinky's used to
picking at her food on and off all day long but the little guy is
coming along when her back's turned and eating it all, and then she
complains about her dish being empty.  And besides the fact that he's
eating the wrong thing, Nerfball is probably eating too much.

Anybody have any suggestions on how to deal with this?  I've tried
moving Slinky's food dish to a less accessible place (the counter in
the utility room) but it appears the kitten can still get at it if he
tries hard enough.  Would it be possible to train Slinky to eat
regular "meals" at times when I'm there to supervise and make sure
that both cats are eating from their own bowls?  Or should I do
nothing and force Slinky to be more assertive about protecting her 
food if she doesn't want to go hungry?

-Sandra
From: ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: what do you think?
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:08:21 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes:

> 
> Okay..second of all:
> You know that cute little thing that kitty's do with their paws -n-
> claws when they are content? Well, I was just curoius as to what 
> everyone else called it. I have refered to it (since a little girl)
> as "makin' muffin's", and I have heard it called, "kneading bread"
> and "that-happy-cat-thing". Any others?
> 
my favorite terrm for that is "starfish paws," which may sarton uses in 
_the fur person_.  highly recommended reading, btw...

                                        -ailsa

p.s. i always just called it "kneading," but i like 'starfish paws' much 
better..

                ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com
 
"If it has tires or testicles, you're going to have trouble with it."
                            _Ohio state Senator Linda Furney
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield)
Subject: Re: Suddenly lazy cat? HELP!
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:11:30 GMT

Something I forgot to mention in my earlier post is the possibiligy
of some sort of intestinal obstruction -- like a piece of bone or 
similar object.  An animal will become very lethargic, stop eating,
stop going to the bathroom, everything.  This really does require
professional help -- so, again, I would check with your vet.

Anne

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lekberg@screwdriver.Prime.COM (Paul Lekberg)
Subject: Re: URGENT! my cat stoped eating for 4 days now!
Reply-To: lekberg@screwdriver.Prime.COM (Paul Lekberg)
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:05:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.164437.1@max.u.washington.edu>,
maji@max.u.washington.edu writes:
|> My cat kitty lost interest in food for four days now.
|> 
|> It started Saturday morning, he vomited the dry food he had before.
since
|> he sometimes did that and resumed eating in few hours. I didn't worry
|> too much. Then that night I gave him some cat treats. he seems like
it.
|> But few hours later he vomited again.(you can see it is the cat
treats.)
|> He didn't want to eat anything. if you put the canned food under his
nose.
|> he will just walk away. Sunday night I forced a little bit raw eff
yolk
|> into his mouth.
|> 
|> On monday morning, before we took him to the vet, he vomitted again,
this
|> time no food, only white foam(his stomache fluid?). After the check
up,
|> the vet gave him several shots(vitamin, antibiotics and nutrient
fluid.)
|> She gave me two kind of pills: Reglan and Amoxi. also she gave us
several
|> cans of A/D and Science Diet. But kitty refused to eat anything. we
forced
|> a little bit of A/D into his mouth. But this process is really a
pain. He
|> struggled violently.
|> 

   This happened to our grey(blue) tabby, Twinkles Lee about 3 
   years ago.  After 2-3 days of vomiting, we brought her to the vet.
   The vet took an x-ray and discovered a small dark mass near
   her intestine.   The vet said it might be a tumor but wouldn't know
   unless he operated.  Being a cautious vet, he wanted to wait a few
   days, put her on an IV and see if she gained any strength before
   operating.   Two days later, he took another x-ray, and it showed
   that the mass (which was a fur ball) had moved.   Twinkles came
   home the next day.   To prevent this from ever happining again, 
   Twinkles Lee and our other two cats,  Mistyann (8 lb grey tabby),
   and Snowflake alias the Flakester, (17 lb pseudo white Persian-
   his mother was a purebreed and his father came from a good neighbor-
   hood), all get laxatone (furball medicine) at least once a week.


   Also, Twinkles Lee just had another problem with eating.  This time,
   she wasn't vomiting, but she was losing her appetite.  This is very
   unusual because she and the other two spoiled babies, are pigs
   when eating.   Well as it turned out, I discovered that Twinkles 
   had a bottom tooth that was very loose and obviously causing her
   great pain.  As soon as the tooth was removed, she regained her
   appetite.

   Paul
   -----



   
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From:  (Stephannie M. Piro)
Subject: Re: bald spot
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:07:23 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats

In article <1992Jul16.190606.1362@ncsu.edu>, echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD
CRAIG HYATT) wrote:
> 
> About six months ago, my orange tabby
> developed an irregularly-shaped bald
> spot on his side.  The spot is about
> the size of nickels placed side-by-side.
> 
> I recall that the spot looked slightly
> irritated when I first noticed it (I
> believe it appeared suddenly--within a
> day).  After all this time, no hair
> has grown in to cover the spot.  It
> isn't too noticeable, since the hair
> around it covers it up somewhat.
> 
> It doesn't appear to bother him in any
> way, but I don't like my beautiful
> kitty looking like a hobo. My first impression
> was that he was burned or got something
> spilled on him.
> 
> At his last checkup, the vet took a culture
> (negative) and gave me a ringworm treatment
> to use.  The medicine had no effect.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas about this?  I've
> sort of given up hope that he'll get his
> hair back, but I'm still curious about it.
> 
> -Craig
> -- 
> --------------------
> Craig Hyatt
> NCSU@Raleigh, NC USA
> echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu
> --------------------

I have a friend  whose cat had this problem and they also were diagnosed as
ringworm related baldspots.  Not only did the vet give "Maggie" some 
medicine, but my friend had to medicate her three times a day for 6 weeks.
During this time, both my friend and his girlfriend contracted the parasite
from the cat and had to be medicated.  They also had to change bedsheets
every
couple days, vaccuum and clean frequently.  Maggie is fine and fabuloous
now.

Stephannie Piro
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: isc40041@nusunix3.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: why do cats....
Organization: National University of Singapore
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:28:30 GMT

edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington) writes:
: In article <14kc91INN3oh@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> tmp@eb2lobby.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
: >In article 28058@linus.mitre.org, pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:
: >>ideas on why she does it.  During the early am (4am or so) she rubs her face
: >
: >
: >My cat does the same thing! He wakes up every morning right before dawn and
: >either nuzzles his nose against our faces or lick right under our nose.  If he
: >doesn't get the attention right away, he'll proceed to take his paw and tap
: >at my face.  Usually I hide my head under the covers and and he will leave, but
:  
:   Both of mine do this too. (rubbing, and tapping, x 2)
:   I was told that cats have a scent gland on the side of their face, and by 
:   rubbing you with the side of their face they are marking you as their 
:   property.

well ... it is ok with me ... my 2 cats always wake me up 
at about 6am ... they are my personal 'alarm' clock ...
except on Sunday ! ( i really hope they know it's Sunday !)


George from Singapore
From: feldman@flash.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: what do you think?
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:44:28 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

ref discussion of cat who appeared to have blood in stool.  Turns out cat 
sometimes bleeds when pooping.

My cat also just developed this problem.  I took him to the vet, he got the worm
medicine and things seemed to clear up.  When the problem recurred I took him
to a different vet (the trouble with the vet is another long story).  Both vets
said not to worry, since Pepper is in no obvious discomfort.  They said that
diagnosing the problem would be much too traumatic, particularly since it seems
to come and go.  I'm also interested in finding out if anyone knows why this
happens, and if there are any long term consequences or things we should look for.

Thanks,
 Sandy
From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Colorblindness in cats
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:27:14 GMT
Reply-To: moss@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)
In-reply-to: adw@cci632.cci.com's message of 23 Jul 92 20:31:06 GMT

Concerning a little more about cat vision:

1) Yes, mammals that see better in dim light generally have more rods than
cones, and thus have less color perception (from the cones) and more low level
sensitivity (from the rods).

2) Cats have a reflective surface behind the retina, as do many mammals that
are out at night. This gives the photons two chances to interact with the dyes
in the rods, and also enhances low level vision. (I don't know how it affects
color vision.) It is why cat eyes are so bright in the headlight beam of a
car. Deer have the same kind of reflective mechanism. People do not. If you
get a reflection from the inside of our eyes, as happens from flash
photography where the angle between the flash and the camera lens is too
shallow, you see red -- the blood vessels of our retina -- rather than the
bright reflection of a cat's eye.
--

		J. Eliot B. Moss, Associate Professor
		Department of Computer Science
		Lederle Graduate Research Center
		University of Massachusetts
		Amherst, MA  01003
		(413) 545-4206, 545-1249 (fax); Moss@cs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: thesman@natinst.com (Josephine Kwan)
Subject: Re: What's Michael?
Keywords: Publisher
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:47:33 GMT


Just thought you cat-fanatics (like me) may want to know:

	         What's Michael?      created by a Japanese
                 English Version
       
                 Eclipse Books
                 P.O. Box 1099
                 Forestville, CA 95436
                 1-800-468-6828 

Jo
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.pets
From: dikig@ddsw1.mcs.com (Diki Gust)
Subject: Re: Leeches was Maggot-eating cat
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:19:44 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

STella@thelema.uucp (STella) writes:
: In article <1992Jul16.025554.2684@news.Hawaii.Edu> teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
: >In article <1992Jul13.180231.26781@sco.COM> maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes) writes:
: >>A doctor in Quebec is experimenting with leeches
: him: "European Leeches: One Gross".
    
     I wouldda tho't they ALL were!  ; - ) )
D.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies)
Subject: Re: What IS Pounce???
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:12:19 GMT

crb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ruth) writes:

>I've been reading the thread on "What IS is with Pounce" - maybe my question
>is simpler - What actually IS Pounce? 

They're cat treats sold in the States--little softish tan-coloured nibbles
that come in a little pull-top tin about four inches high.  I wish I could
get them in Australia--they send wild any cat I've ever tried them on!  :-)

--Brent
From: reyes@buphyd.bu.edu (Jinara Reyes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Tapeworms (yuck!)...
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:16:04 GMT

Greetings everyone!...I adopted a stray cat last December, and just 
noticed that she has tapeworms. (Yuck!--talk about gross!)
The vet gave me a small pill to give her, and I was just wondering if anyone else has had a problem with worms. Does this 
small pill really work??? (It had better--it took me half an hour to get
my cat to swallow it!)....My cat (BC) is an indoor cat, but she was
about a year old when I found her. I am assuming that she had the worms from 
then. Fortunately, she shows no ill effects from them.

Just looking for advice!....

thanks!

Jinara
From: berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What does he DO in there???
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:10:49 GMT
Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Organization: Universite de Montreal

crb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ruth) writes:

>Every night now, while I'm in the lounge watching TV, Geno disappears into
>the kitchen.  He's very quiet in there, but as soon as I make a move, I hear 
>a thud, and he lands on the floor near the door, poking his head round as
>if to say "who me? I wasn't doing anything".

>Now, I don't leave any food out on the surfaces, so he can't be after that - 
>and since I've not yet managed to catch him in the act, I'm not sure what
>he is acutally climbing on.  I only seem to get there when he's in mid thud.

>Any suggestions????????

>Roo

Well, before we managed to get them out of the habit of getting on top 
of places where they shouldn't be (like the dining table, the dresser
and countertops), Kinski had a habit of getting on top of the kitchen
counter (ok, so I will admit that I tend to leave the evening's dinner
dishes til the next day, but we do rid them of any foodstuff stuck to
them) and scrounging around the sink (after someone posted something
about their cat licking a meat encrusted knife and slicing its tongue
I make sure no knives were accessible).  One time we had physical 
evidence that she was there on the kitchen counter and sink, somehow
she slipped and splashed some spaghetti sauce infested water all over 
her (this was noticeable since she's white with calico markings).

Finster is another story.. I thought I had cured him of getting on the
counter way back when he was a kitten (after a tipping a pot full of 
from the top of the fridge incident) but NOOOOOOooo, every once in a 
while I WILL catch him lounging on top of the fridge, and the minute I 
see him he'll let out a minor complaint "Aw rats!" and reluctantly
climb down.  

My guess is that since the counter is there, why not explore it?  But 
in Finster's case I think it's because of the height.  he occasionally
likes to meow at me to put him on top of the bookcase (which, when it 
used to be positioned next to the TV he'd be able to leap on top of it
from the TV).

Hope that might give you some idea =)  Else dust the counters with flour
before he goes up there next if you want to know what he's up to! :D


Eva
bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu (note new email address) :)



(pls ignore following .sig)
--
	Andre Berthiaume 	 |  "Sometimes you're the windshield,
				 |   Sometimes you're the bug"
    berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca    |			
				 |	       Dire Straits, The Bug
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Brooke Leaton <bleaton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: spots on chin
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:47:51 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

cwilliams@guvax.georgetown.edu asked about small sores on her cat's chin.  Yes,
I spent many bucks looking into the food allergies-plastic dishes-flea 
allergies-route, but so far my two cats seem to get these nasty little things 
from time to time no matter what I do with respect to their environment.  It 
may be autoimmune.  I don't know.  The latest vet report is that no one knows 
for sure.  Except that these can _really_ get nasty if these sores occur on the
mouth or near the nose and are left unattended.  One vet claimed that the only 
way to treat them is with corticosteroid injections (nice and expensive!).  
Some call them "rodent ulcers" or "indolent ulcers".  I've had the best luck 
by treating them with a prednisone-type pill that I get from my vet, and just 
dose them for a few days when they begin to appear.  The treatment is cheap.  
Check with you vet first, of course.  I could be way off base about the nature 
of your cat's problem.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ceci@lysator.liu.se (Ceci Henningsson)
Subject: Re: cat food fights!
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Club, Linkoping University, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:15:12 GMT

loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:

[about Nerfball (what a name!) eating the adult cat's food instead of]
[his own kitten food]

>Anybody have any suggestions on how to deal with this?  I've tried
>moving Slinky's food dish to a less accessible place (the counter in
>the utility room) but it appears the kitten can still get at it if he
>tries hard enough.  Would it be possible to train Slinky to eat
>regular "meals" at times when I'm there to supervise and make sure
>that both cats are eating from their own bowls?  Or should I do
>nothing and force Slinky to be more assertive about protecting her 
>food if she doesn't want to go hungry?

You could stop feeding the kitten food and start giving both of the
cats the adult cat food. Naturally, kitten food is better for a kitten
(if the manufacturer's claims are vaild), but if he doesn't want it,
what's the point of forcing him to eat it? In the dark old ages (i.e.
a couple of years ago) when there was no special kitten food, cats
still didn't grow up to be more deranged than they are anyway. :)

While kitten food is probably a very fine idea, I wouldn't bother
with it if the cat doesn't appreciate it. Maybe, just maybe, kitten
food has more to do with manufacturer's profit and human guilt, than
with kitten health.

--Ceci, being blasphemous today

--
=====ceci@lysator.liu.se===========================================
"Where is the mythic archetype who will save us from ecological
catastrophe or credit card debt?" 
Ian McDonald in King of Morning, Queen of Day
From: mmf@evolving.com (Mark Frazier)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:51:04 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


They were selling these for $50 (US) at the Colorado Craft show last
December.

You take a box (wooden) about 12" x 12" x2", and put a naugahyde cover on it
(staple it on). Cut out the corners, and make the opening just big
enough that the cat can get it's entire front leg through. Now put inside
the box a pastic ball (ping pong ball) or some light ball that makes
lots of noise.

Based on the video tape they were showing, the cats spend hours batting
around and trying to get the little ball.


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MMF
From: ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake")
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Perching (was Re: What does he DO in there???)
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:01:51 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>In article <p2nm!2@lynx.unm.edu> pjohnso@triton.unm.edu (Paddy Johnson CIRT) wr
>ites:
>>...(story of cat getting out deleted...)  When I get home from work, she is
>>almost always sitting in the same position in the same place on the
>>shed roof.  The position is somewhat sphinx-like, with the ears erect,
>>but the eyes are half-closed.  Her tail is either curled around her feet
>>or straight out in back depending on the temperature.  She can sit this
>>way for hours.  

My neighbors' calico manx shorthair perches on the post at the end of
their back porch railing in much this same position, even though it is
usually in the shade both winter and summer. I think she's just waiting
for someone to open the back door, and up on the post she's more visible
to people in the house, and safer from dogs. BTW her name is Flopsie
because when anyone (anyone at all) walks up to her she just flops over
on her back to have her tummy rubbed.
--
|  Didi Pancake         |     ESTJs know the answer...                   |
|  ehp@virginia.edu     |              ...the question is irrelevant.    |
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|  All the usual disclaimers about the origins of these opinions apply.  |
From: iadt3mk@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Kustermann)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: A must read for cat allergy sufferers
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:23:38 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul20.144945.29730@evolving.com>, judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger) writes:
> 
> >draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com writes:
> 
> > The August issue of Cat Fancy has a great article on cats and allergies.
> 
> This got me thinking... I saw an ad in a home improvement magazine
> (don't remember which) about special furnace filters for allergy 
> sufferers.  They're made by 3M and are meant to replace the
> cardboard ones you buy in the grocery store.  I guess they're semi-
> permanent, as all you have to do is rinse them periodically.  They claim
> to clean tons more gunk out of the air than the regular kind.  I've since
> seen them at places like Hugh M. Woods.
> 
> Has anybody tried them?
> -- 
> Judy Bettinger (judy@evolving.com)            < |/
> Evolving Systems, Inc.                         :o<)
> Denver, Colorado                              < |\

  Yes, I have. I seem to have a lot less dust in my
  house.  You have to remember to clean the filter
  about once a month.
  As far as allergies against cats are concerned :
  I read that if you bathe your car once a week for
  four weeks all the dandruff will be gone.  I have
  not tried that so I don't know if that claim is
  true.
















-- 
Michael Kustermann - Georgia Institute of Technology - Atlanta, GA 30332
iadt3mk@prism.gatech.edu -----------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart)
Subject: Re: cat food fights!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:44:33 GMT

>While kitten food is probably a very fine idea, I wouldn't bother
>with it if the cat doesn't appreciate it. Maybe, just maybe, kitten
>food has more to do with manufacturer's profit and human guilt, than
>with kitten health.
>
>--Ceci, being blasphemous today

Kittens should have a greater percentage of their caloric intake from fat
and protein than an adult cat.  So, kitten food SHOULD provide for these
requirements (which doesn't mean that they do).
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Re: Pesky Mockingbird bugs Cat
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:19:16 GMT


I'd bet very much that the bird has a nest and eggs; they sing all night
until they mate, and come back to the same location year after year.

My experience suggests --strongly -- that if you relax and enjoy the
spectacle, they'll settle down to a standoff.  The bird is going to
learn that Dexter is just not gonna get excited and active, nor going to
leave.  Once the eggs hatch, the bird won't have time to hassle Dexter
much.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats