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From: dorin@ksr.com (Bob Dorin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: X-man to Boston
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:50:51 EDT
Organization: Kendall Square Research Corp.

In article <BuDH3y.67B@ora.com> ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler) writes:
>conference this morning.  He will wear #31 (of ML Carr fame), and


A minor nit, Ellie - ML wore #30, Max wore #31 (though Max also wore
#30 for a while).  Bias had been assigned #30.  And, yeah, the great
Fred Roberts also wore #31.  To my knowledge, ML never wore #31.

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From: gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Shaquille O'Neal interview
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:07:07 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <5044@news.duke.edu> radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.224059.18177@Princeton.EDU>, hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
>>> He has absolutely no right to whine about this!  If Shaq had made himself
>>>available for the world championships, Pan Am games, etc, when USA Basketball
>>>really needed him, then maybe he would have a case.  Laettner had put in his
>>>time, and deserved the slot.  Jimmy Jackson would have been another worthy
>>>choice.
>>Cut this crap please !! Being chosen for the Olympics is a prestigious
>>issue and the BEST player should be given a chance (things such as availability
>>for other tourneys should not count).. And most certainly Shaq is a few
>>levels better than Laettner as a player.
>
>   If they wanted the BEST player, they shouldn't have gone to the college
>ranks.  They should have gotten _________ (fill in your favorite NBA player
>who got robbed here).  However, they wanted a college player, one who has
>international experience, one who can play on the perimeter, someone with
>some versatility.  Shaq is a dominant shot-blocker and rebounder but he is
>nowhere near as versatile as Laettner or JJ.

Let's here your real legitimate argument as to why it should have been
Laettner not JJ.

>And Shaq is certainly not a 
>better shooter (especially on those free throws!) than CL. And tell, me why
>*shouldn't* "availability for other tourneys" count?

I bet that you couldn't get the Dream Team to go to those tourneys.  I can
really see Jordan/Bird/Magic playing in those.  They were never available
for those games, and they wouldn't go if asked.  Also those games are
a waste of one's time, I sure he and most others would rather spend it
with their families.

>  Shaq blew off USA 
>basketball for two years, and then he expects them to come begging for him?  
>It would have been a slap in the face to those players who had served on these
>teams.  USA Basketball wanted the best **college** player (as evidenced by all
>those POY awards) and they got him.  

The most over-hyped we hope he's the next Larry Bird player is what they
wanted and got.  POY awards only go to guys who are on teams good enough
to make them look good.  Switch Shaq with Jordan/Magic and its unlikely
that they would win the POY awards though they are far far better players.
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From: cs169061@cs.brown.edu (Michael Kalman)
Subject: Re: bulls draft info?
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:56:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.203538.24085@hubcap.clemson.edu>, dstanzi@eng.clemson.edu (daniel stanzione) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 	Though the Bulls did trade Litterial Green, they also drafted 
|> Corey Williams, a guard from O.K. State, and they did give him a multi-year
|> deal.  I watche him play once or twice, but can't remember much about
|> him-- which tells you something about either Williams or my memory. I'm
|> pretty sure he was the PG.  He did, however, play with Byron Houston for
|>  a few years, so they can talk to each other on the bench.
|> 
|> 				-Dan
|> 

        I remember Corey Williams as the third guard at Okl. St.,  playing
alongside Darwyn Alexander & Sean Sutton.  Williams has incredible quickness;
he gets lots of steals, is fun to watch on the break, and can dribble 
around most defenders.  Surprisingly though, I don't think he was a big scorer.
The Cowboys' physical, halfcourt style of play no doubt had something to do 
with that, but I'm also not sure he has NBA range on his jumper. 

                                                 Michael K.
From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Knicks get Tony Campbell
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:08:16 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.

In article <1992Sep15@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>Well, just a week after the Knicks lost XMan, they trade for Tony Campbell
>from the Timberwolves.  Campbell is the TWolves all-time leading scorer,
>and should be a solid starter for the Knicks, as they know have a quality
>small forward again.  So, even after all the wheelings and dealings, their
>starting lineup looks like this (Probable, that is)
>
>PG : Mark Jackson
>SG : Rolando Blackman
>SF : Tony Campbell
>PF : Charles Oakley
>C  : Patrick Ewing.
>
>Campbell is not that much of an improvement over the X, but Ro is a very 
>good addition, and adds another real scoring threat.  

I'm not sold that Campbell is an improvement over X at all.  Granted the 
Knicks need scoring more than rebounds (who the hell needs rebounds when
you have Oakley grabbing 700+ and Ewing grabbing 900+), but is Campbell a
reliable scorer?  I remember him going off on Detroit in the finals a 
couple years back, but he only averaged 17ppg for Minnesota and was the
goto guy there.  He shoots about 46% and is generally a black hole-of-sorts,
although not as bad as McDaniel.  McDaniel seemed to give the Knicks 
that rough edge they needed to challenge the Bulls, and since that's who
everyone must be shooting for, I think the loss of McDaniel and addition
of Tony isn't a step in the wrong direction.  Pippen in front of McDaniel was 
a tough matchup, but Pippen will run circles around Campbell and when 
Pippen runs circles, the Bulls are UNTOUCHA-BULLS. 

I'm also not sure that McDaniel fit in real well with the Celts.

It's too bad that McDaniel is all about money, 'cause the Knicks were looking
pretty tough...

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Bird's farewell?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:36:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.090614.8796@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10122@nusunix3.nus.sg (ER HAN KOON) writes:
>isc10122@nusunix3.nus.sg (ER HAN KOON) writes:
>:     To ER is human.
>    Is there going to be a farewell tour for Bird?Just like the one
>    Kareem and Dr J. had.

No.  Bird made it very clear at his press conference that his playing career
is officially over.  There will be no farewell tour, and Bird wants it that
way.  Personally, I hope there won't be one for Magic, either, not because I
don't want to see him play, but rather because I don't want to see him make a
foolish mistake and end his life too soon.

>    Damned i hate vi. 

Try emacs.  :)


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From: martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara)
Subject: Rodman
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 10:59:20 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

I saw a headline in the Detroit News this morning that mentioned
that Rodman will NOT be back with the Pistons next year....

No Salley...No Rodman....The Pistons are in for it....

					Marty

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Celtic Roster -- Who is on ...
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:52:43 GMT

davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>[...] rumors that the Cs might go after either Cadillac 
>Anderson or Charles Smith, though I doubt they can without a big trade.

I thought Greg Anderson was a free agent?  Didn't Denver release
him?


--Gidi
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Pacers "bad" trade
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:10:14 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Sep10.142829.13959@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>Well, the biggest ego is gone, and at least the Pacers will have more 
>offensive balance, not just guys chucking it up from outside.

This reminds me of something that Dale Davis said when finally signed with
the Pacers.  Person was chewing him out saying, "You'll never get to shoot
the ball, rookie.  I'm the man here and I take all the shots."  Davis
replied, "Well, I guess I'd better get ready to go after all those rebounds."
!!
--Rob Clough
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Godzilla Vs Barkley (w/ Spoiler)
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:09:37 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Sep14.131509.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>>>spot.  Actually what really caught my eye was the commercial right before it,
>>>an MTV spot where they edited the videos of Rodney King and Reginald Denny
>>>and replaced the people with animated paper sculptures.  Now _that_ was
>>>an excellent commercial.
>> 
>> What was this a commercial for?
>
>Oh dear.  Then it _wasn't_ such an excellent commercial after all.  :-)


Well the commercial ends with a phrase something like, "paper is recyclable,
people aren't".

So I guess the commercial is promoting recycling and saving the earth :-)

Or it could be a stop the violence message, naah.




Russ Smith
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From: dolsen@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (David Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BEST POINT GUARD IN NBA
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:57:00 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep15.171158.8074@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser) writes...
> 
>>
>>In article <1992Sep14.193318.11715@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser) writes:
>>> 
>>> Now that Magic is gone, Hardaway and KJ share the throne.  Stockton doesn't
>>> share the dimensions (assists & defense only) that the other two do.
>>> --
>>
>>
>>Yup, you're right Mike. Stockton's lifetime 50+ FG%, 80+ FT%, and 
>>32% 3PT% really s*cks! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
>>
>>	Ok, Ok, so he's only good at offense, defense, and passing..... :-)
>>
>>
>>-- 
>!	Jim  Halpin
> 
>Jim, in head-to-head meetings, Tim and KJ severely school the poor boy.

You must be on something man.  The games I watched last year the schooling
went the other way.  Hardaway has even said that he would rather play
against many other people than Stockton.  Where do people come up with this
stuff.  KJ had some great games against Stock two years ago but not before
or since.


David Olsen

> 
>--
> 
>    Mike
>    
>    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
>       - wilde silas tomkyn
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Hakeem Olajuwon trade rumors
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:40:08 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Sep11.224014.18361@leland.Stanford.EDU>, terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
>I read last week that 
>Olajuwon definitely wants to be traded and that Miami was interested in
>exchanging Sekeilay, Harold Miner, and one other player. Today's report

I had not heard about these rumors.  But they are interesting.  Who would
the third player that they would give up be?  I would guess Brian Shaw, 
although Bimbo Coles and Kevin Edwards are possiblities.  I think this
would be an incredible trade for the Heat.  With the acquisition of Salley,
they would suddenly have an imposing front line.  The backcourt would still
have Steve Smith, Shaw/Edwards/Coles and sometimes Glen Rice.  Long and 
Burton could come in quite capably as backups.  An instant Atlantic conference
threat.  Houston would get rid of a someone who doesn't want to play there
and get a lot of young talent.  I have a feeling that the Heat would regret
giving up Mr. Miner, but I got the impression that he might have been drafted
with a trade in mind.  But the shrewd Heat management will only make a trade
when it's to their advantage, with as little compromise as possible.

--Rob Clough
From: dwj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID W. JONES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: straighter flying paintballs
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:31:17 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <lafvrbINNmd6@cash.cs.utexas.edu>, bmich@cs.utexas.edu (Brian Keith M
ichalk) writes:
>In the pursuit of ever increasing accuracy, I would like to keep my paintballs
>from curving.  I have a 16 inch barrell on order now, but havn't seen the
>improvement, if any that that will make.  I talked to a dealer about rifling
>and all, and he said that he could hardly tell the difference between an
>internally rifled barrel, an external rifled, or a barrel with a muzzle
>break.
>
>Once a long time ago I read somewhere of a guy who put something on the end
>of his barrel to make the ball always spin in the same direction.  It had
>a wierd name, and it broke a lot of balls.  It was really simple too, like
>a piece of metal attached to the top side which would put an underspin on
>the ball.
>
>Anyway, I figured the noise here was getting too quiet, so if anyone is
>achieving at least %80 reliability, let me know what you did to get it,
>or are all these 50 yard shots a myth?
>
To improve the accuracy of my Budorr for Long Ball games I use a 18" barrel
with a muzzle break. I feel the paint is the key to an accurate shot
Tumbling helps a great deal to revive old paint. I try to only buy enough paint
to play for the day, because it seems to cause more problems such as hooking
and breaking. I also found with my gun that greater accuracy is achieved by
chroning in at 270fps to 280fps.
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                 Lehigh University (215-758-6990)
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From: sh666@selway.umt.edu (Wolverine)
Subject: A Discussion of Tactics
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:22:43 GMT

I would like to open a forum of the tactics of paintball... here is
some observations I have made over my two year career...

When planning team tactics they're one two things you can do.
Total Attack or total Defense.  I have NEVER had a succesful combination
I personally opt for total attack.  If you've ever played the Ironmen
you will agree....

Right at the bell my team is running.  At the first sign of contact,
the point elements go down at start spraying a blistering cover fire.
When you have 3 - 4 autos bearing down on you there is just about
nothing you can do.  Our side elements then begin a pinching move.
This only works if the point elements keep up a huge covering fire.
Usually our flanking teams get little to no resistance when moving in.

Another thing I have noticed:  NEVER RUN.  This just might be me,
but whenever I flee I get taken out.  Its best just to hole up and
return fire anyway you can (that mystery gun sticking up from behind
a stump :)

Another item.. always keep the team together.  When we first started
out we had a big problem of people chasing down 'rabbits' and getting
taken out in the process.  I usually prefer to let people running go.
You will catch up with them sooner or later.

And one of the absolute best ways to improve your team is to play
teams that are better than you.  This is the ultimate training tool!
If you find you aren't winning games its either time to change your
tactics or change your personnel.  Thanks to the Rangers in Spokane
for this valuable lesson...

Anyone else have anything to add?  I would very much like to hear what
other teams out there do to get their wins..

							W O L V E R I N E

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From: harlan@oberon.cs.wisc.edu (Harlan Harris)
Subject: Re: Non-paint toys in Paintball games
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:33:41 GMT

In article <2404@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> billc@zippy.UUCP (Bill Carter) writes:
>   I think paint grenades are fairly useless as well.  If you are close
>   enough to throw one at some guys you might as well use your paintgun
>   to mark them.  The radius of elimination is very small when you
>   use them in underbrush.  I could see using them to route out people
>   defending a fortified position, maybe, but you usually have to be able
>   to throw with great accuracy.  Anybody have a story about using
>   smoke or paint grenades?

Well, I was blown to shreds by one in a game I played. Another guy and I 
were defending the second story of a fort(8'x8', 4' walls, 4' open to a roof.)
I think we were surrounded, so we were only able to deal with part of the 
perimiter. Anyway, someone tossed a grenade into the fort, and it blew within 
a second, completely covering me and my codefender. (they won) 
It was a 20-30 foot shot, but the target was pretty big too.

I suspect that in general grenades would be useful in clearing any sort
of structure or bunker where there wasn't a clear shot, but being a "newbie" 
I haven't had much experience in using them. I would agree that in wooded
areas that it would be pretty useless.

 -Harlan Harris
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 05:07:05 EST
From: Tad Simmons <SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Non-paint toys in Paintball games
 <1992Sep10.003742.7189@cs.rose-hulman.edu>

The paint grenade design I'm familiar with is a length of black rubber
tubing.  You bend over one end of it, fill a BIG syringe with paint, stick the
syringe in the other end and put the paint in the tube.  You then bend over the
end and fold it in half so that the two folded ends are together.  You put a
plastic cap over the end with a pin stuck through it under to bend in the tube
ends.
  Hmm, that doesn't seem to be at all clear...  ASCII graphics time!  ;)
Cross section of cap area:
             _________    | and - are the cap
             | ##### |    # is the tube
             | # o # |    o is the pin
             | #   # |
               #   #
               #
              ###
             #####
            #######
To use it, you pull the pin so that the only thing keeping the ends crimped
is the plastic cap (voice of experience: hook a finger over the cap to hold
it on) then throw!  The impact should dislodge the cap (if the throw didn't)
and the pressurized paint will come shooting out the ends of the tube, which
is bouncing around just like a deflating balloon.  It can coat a LARGE area.

  There are refill kits available with the Syringe and a powder to mix with
water for your paint.

Hope this helps,
Tad
From: vanichth@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mitri Van)
Subject: Re: PMI-3 winter question
Keywords: PMI-3, winterized
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:30:25 GMT

henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:


>Question about the PMI-3.
>Knowing that the PMi-3 doesn't perform well in colder climates, what are the
>viable solution to overcome this problem?  A friend of mine is considering
>PMI-3 as his first gun and with fall and winter coming up, he wants to make
>sure it won't let him down.  What are the practical solutions to get a PMI-3
>to function in winter climates?  A siphon tank?  A separate set of winter
>s and bolt?  
>Any responses would be appreciative.

Ooh, I've heard that you never want to put a siphon tank on a PMI-3.
Anyway, it's been awhile since I posted, eh?  As an owner of a clunky,
old PMI and probably one of the first models (Or so I've been told) I guess
I have some experience with PMI-3's and cold.  The thing I found the best was
to move the bottle down to the grip or to the back.  This gives the CO2 more
time to change from liquid to gas.  I also hear the Black Rain(I think that's
what it's called) adaptor works well too, but I've never seen it in action or
tried it.


Mitri Van
From: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: IPPA Address
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:44:26 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/27 - Int'l Public Emerge, San Jose CA

Hello Bill!

 BC>    Well, no flame but I can't agree with you on this.  The IPPA may
 BC>    not have much money to spend on organizational trappings, but at
 BC>    least they are a visible group which stands up for our rights to
 BC>    play paintball.  They do publish some valuable safety standards,
 BC>    and Jessica Sparks has been known to provide legal assistance.
 BC>    You can get a one-year membership plus a magazine subscription for
 BC>    $25, does that seem like a lot?  See what it costs you to "get a
 BC>    good lawyer for any paintball litigation you may run into".

What is their mailing address?

Todd

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From: stedee@auto-trol.com (Steve Deemer)
Subject: Re: winter games
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:57:56 GMT

In article <javirtan.716139110@vipunen.hut.fi> javirtan@vipunen.hut.fi (Jukka A Virtanen) writes:
>In <1992Sep10.130522.24593@bmw.mayo.edu> stan@sabaac.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Andrew Staniszewski) writes:
>
>>does anyone out there have experience with winter games??
>>are there any special problems with the paint, etc in winter conditions?
>
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> 
>There is one problem though: In cold weather, the CO2-tank freezes down
>very easily. This will lead to the air growing denser in the tank, and
>eventually you will run out of air quicker. Sustained firing is thus not
>recommended. Using a 3.5 oz tank, you might not be able to shoot more
>than 70-90 rounds without a refill. This can be prevented by shooting
>less at a time and keeping the gun in a warm place when not using it.
> 
One solution to prevent the CA tank from freezing up is to wrap one of
those chemical hand-warmer pads around it.  The pads don't get hot
enough to worry about over-heating the CO2, but they warm the tank
enough to offset the cold external temperature.

Steve Deemer
stedee@auto-trol.com

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