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From: burd@hydra.unm.edu (Stephen Burd ASM)
Subject: Re: Expanding polyphony
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:47:20 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <5569@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
>> 
>> Since one of your main considerations is piano, try to find a used Kurzweil
>> 1000 Px, 1000 Px+, or Pro-1.  I have seen Pxs selling in the $450 range.
>> This will extend your polyphony bu 24 voices and give you access to the
>> best piano sample playback unit known to man/woman. 
>
>Sorry, but than honor is owned by the JD-800. Take off your Kurz
>team jacket for a few minutes and try to be UNBIASED. A few minutes spent
                                             ^^^^^^^^
>tweaking the JD's piano sound (which is of course easy, because the JD has a 
>REAL programming interface :-)) gives a clear, dynamic, expressive piano sound
>far superior to any primitive Kurz 12 bit sample player. This is especially
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, as long as we're being UNBIASED let's also be ACCURATE.  Quoting from
the Kurzweil PX+ manual (p.4.) - "...with up to 120 Programs based on 16-bit
                                                                      ^^^^^^
floating-point digitally-sampled sounds."

I can't attest to the comparison between a Kurzweil and a JD-800 since
I've never heard a JD-800.  I can attest to the comparison between the
Kurzweil piano sample and a good grand piano - pretty impressive.  And
not very 'thin' at the high end to my ears.

Anyone know where I can audition a JD-800 in Albuquerque?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Charlie)
Subject: Anyone out there with an R-8,R-8M Drum machine?
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:46:56 GMT

I'm interested in getting an Roland R-8,R-8M drum machine, and in particular,
a card I'd like to get for it would be the jazz brush cards. Does anyone know
a little more about these machines? What's the polyphony (simultaneous drums)?
How're the samples (in particualr hi-hats, crash cymbals)? Easy to program?
Hard? Velocity sensitive pads?

			Thanks in Advance - 
			Chuck
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: New specs of Atari Falcon (500 Pounds)
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:44:29 GMT

.ac.uk> The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:

   Does anyone know if the 56001 will be user programmable. If so, wouldn't
   the Falcon be about the cheapest 56001 standalone development system on
   the market?

You'd still need a compiler, assembler, linker and loader...
Not to mention editor and debugger.

Isn't the 56001 old, outdated, no more hot? I had the feeling
it's the 80286 of DSPs these days. Maybe Atari got them cheap.

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  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
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From: amir@mack (Amir Bakhtiar)
Subject: Re: Info on Yamaha QY10
Reply-To: amir@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:21:04 GMT

Apologies to those helpful people that tried to reply to my post.
Unfortunately a new installation of my news program clobbered my
previous, correct, Reply-To: address.

Kind souls, please try again.

--Amir
From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Proph VS v Wave >> Arpegiators?
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:36:19 GMT
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

>>The arpeggiator is what I love most! That was one of the main reasons for my
>>Emulator purchase! My JP-8 is used heavily, with the arpeggiator clocked off
>>my JamBox interface!
>
>What is an arpeggiator, how is it used, and most importantly what does it
>sound like?
>

well, basically it play singles notes from a chord... (an arpeggio) you
can adjust the speed and also the order of notes hit...  listen to throbbing
gristle or even Chorus by Erasure for arpeggiator
work

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier)
Subject: Re: list of synth names/descriptions
Organization: Communication Networks
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:21:28 GMT

This year to Frankfurter Musikmesse a book is published called "Key Report"
which contains all important synths and samplers since 1972.

Frank

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From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Expanding polyphony
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:49:00 GMT


Since one of your main considerations is piano, try to find a used Kurzweil
1000 Px, 1000 Px+, or Pro-1.  I have seen Pxs selling in the $450 range.
This will extend your polyphony bu 24 voices and give you access to the
best piano sample playback unit known to man/woman.  In addition, the other
3 MB of samples in the box are incredible as well.  When taken in its
totality, the Kurz box makes the Proteus look like the cheap plastic toy
it really is (:-)... just kidding Proteus owners... I like the Proteus, but
is sound isn't in the same league with the Px for practical things like
piano, choirs, acoustic bass, trumpet, and synth effects).

John
From: lclarke@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lee Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Expanding polyphony
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:11:32 GMT
Reply-To: lclarke@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lee Clarke)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

If you are going to audition the Roland JD800's piano sounds,
make sure you get the salesperson to plug in the SL-JD80-04
Strings Ensemble.

Then select patch (card, not internal) C-13.

Deselect Layer A (the strings) and just listen to the concert grand
piano samples.

It is SUPERB.


Then compare that sound with the internal grand piano patch/sample
AC Piano 1 (53).

Use those as reference sounds to compare your other vendor's piano
samples with.

Hope it helps.

Lee Clarke
"Opinions are my own"
lclarke@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: jrblack@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Black)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Mac Upgrade Brings Success?!?
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:57:02 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University


	I recently decided to take the plunge and upgrade my Mac Plus which
has been chugging along, choking on Performer 3.42.  When the price of the
IIsi dropped to $1,200 at the campus store - I made my move.  I figured I
could live with 1 slot and $2355 for a ci stripped was a little too much.

	After upgrading the memory to 5meg (which BTW was a pleasure - I
snapped open the cover and 60 seconds later I was finished... now if DOS
machines were so easy...) and was able to load Performer.  My DA for the
MTP was a version or so..  behind, but that has been taken care of with a
quick call to MOTU. 

	Now for the first time in 2-3 years, sequencing is again a pleasure.
No more waiting for event lists to pop-up or scrolling that takes forever or
graphic editing pains.  When I think of the time saved, I kick myself for
not INVESTING in a machine faster than 8MHz *long* ago.  My advice to anyone
with a 'slow' machine - if you feel your time is worth saving atleast 50% -
do it.  I consider my time extremely valuable and the time saved - somewhere
around 100-150% in actual sequence editing - this was the ticket.  Now if I
can find a sample editor, synth ed/lib that will recognize the MTP in FAST
mode (so I don't have to keep flipping that little switch) and be System 7
savvy, this shit might be better than beating my meat.

  
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From: bbs.cement@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Christopher Clement)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Mackie Mixers
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:10:33 GMT
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238

I know that I just posted something like this, but the need for info is 
pressing.

The Mackie 1604 Mixer has a phase problem, this I know. But, does the 
1202 model share this same _wonderful_ artifact?

Please e-mail me if anybody knows.

Christopher Clement

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Myles Wakeham <mylesw@amgen.com>
Subject: Re: Sample CD's??
Organization: Amgen Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:56:06 GMT

>Howdy! I would like receive a copy of this newsletter.  And any
>other sample sources you may know of.  Thanks

Leave me your mailing address and I will send you a copy of
the International Samplers Co-op's Newsletter, LOOP

Myles
From: etsang@skat.usc.edu (Eric Tsang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: ensoniq SD1-32 vs. the other workstations
Date: 20 Aug 1992 11:20:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <20AUG92.15584631@sklib.usask.ca> supplies@sklib.usask.ca writes:
>If you have had bad experiences with the new SD1-32 please let me know.
>If you have lots of experience with both the SD1-32 and another workstation
>that you like better, let me know why.
>

I use the SD-1/32 as my main controller/sound module.  I do have some
bad experiences using the sequencer, it sometimes gives me unknown error.
e.g. Hesitation between sequences, cannot trigger the drum machine correct,
cannot follow the sync signal from my 4-track, etc....  For me, I never
use it for any live performance, so for only studio recording purpose,
the error is not that annoying, I simply re-load the system and do it
again(sure I got angry/crazy sometimes!!)  However, if you consider 
the price vs. performance ratio, the SD-1/32 can give you so much.
Sure if I have the money, I will buy other dream machine.  But at this
time SD-1/32 already fulfills my dream with only a little investment. 
I do consider the Yamaha SY77 before, the built-in functions are so
much powerful than SD-1, however, the sounds are pretty poor(IMHO), they
are too bloomy, flat, dim, liveless.  I guess it is because of the
effect processor.  Some people may like this kind of sound, but not
me, I am looking for sharp, bright, hit, punchy sound.  As you all
know, you buy the syn. because you like the SOUND, the functions are
not that important in some senses.

Anyway, I am not totally FOR SD-1/32 or AGAINST it. 

Eric  
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Subject: Re: DX7-to-SY77 patch converter?
Reply-To: koelman@stc.nato.int
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:29:02 GMT

I> > 
> > I did this manually for 2 patches. There is however a non-linear
> > relationship between some of the (envelope?) parameters.
> > It sounded similar on my TG77 but not quite as good
> > as on my DX7II.
> > 
> > Most commercial SY/TG 77 editors have a converter built in.
> > Please keep me posted on the availability of a free one...
> > 
>   For those on this thread who are interested(or desperate), I have
>  a program for the Mac (MIDI manager required) which was written in 
> HMSL Forth two years ago. It is a turnkeyed application ( you dont need
> HMSL to run it). It will convert DX voices to SY format with 
> reasonable accuracy..The main source of errors lie in the differences
> in operator level scaling(dx has linear OR exp curves) and parameter 
> scaling (ie  0 - 127 in sy: 0-99 in dx) ..
> email me and I will upload the file to ftp

Is it possible to reveal/describe the conversion
algorithm. I could consider doing a version in C...
I've already figured out the sysex voice dump formats.

TK

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From: jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Shaggy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream Equipment on this tour
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:28:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I heard Rockoon! ( Puke! ) Now that the group is down to Froese and
his Son, many of the great elements that are in their older stuff (
mid 80's and ealier ) are long gone!  Make that two votes for a
reunion tour!


Bye the way Chris Franke (I think ... came out just a few months ago
with his first (?) solo album "West Coast Highway" (anyone heard it?
)

And to what happened to Peter Baumann? Well he founded Private
Music...The label that the late 80's TD released under.  And also
not to mention the talented Patrick O'Hearn ( Both Peter and Patrick
produced "Indigo", O'Hearns latest ablum, which, I might add has
some TD flavor to it.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cc@cowan.fishkill.ibm.com (Chris Cowan)
Subject: Yamaha FX500 Schematics and Parts 
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:21:27 GMT
Reply-To: cc@cowan.fishkill.ibm.com (Chris Cowan)
Organization: Pough, NY

I have a Yamaha FX500 Multi-effect Unit, which has a bad power switch.   
Does anyone know whether you can obtain schematics and possibly parts for 
this beast?

If so, where?  Or how?

Chris Cowan
From: etsang@skat.usc.edu (Eric Tsang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Flaming problem (was Re: ensoniq SD1-32 vs.....)
Date: 21 Aug 1992 11:21:12 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <NICK.92Aug21121343@vaila.ed.ac.uk> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:
>In article <l97oj4INNi6p@skat.usc.edu> etsang@skat.usc.edu (Eric Tsang) writes:
>
>   As you all
>   know, you buy the syn. because you like the SOUND, the functions are
>   not that important in some senses.
>
>Never has a falser word been spoken.
>
>Nick.
>--
  First of all, I don't want to start a flame on this, but just want
to clarify.  I should not say "not that important".  Actually, all I
mean is "it is very important but not as important as the SOUND".  
I guess no one will buy a synth. just by looking at its specification
and never hearing the sounds.  Also, even the functions are so impressive
if the sounds are bad, you will not buy it either.  This is the reason why
some people still keep/buy some old analog synth which have good sound but
not enough  functions(e.g. no MIDI).  
  One more thing before I go.  There is a very serious FLAMING problem 
all around NEWS groups.  People are keep flaming others without any
respect.  This happens in many groups !  Actually I really don't mind
people say "You are wrong!!" or "This is not TRUE!!" but as least
you say why it is wrong.  By just putting a sentence here has no
respect to the poster.  If people are keep doing that, eventaully
no beginner or novice(like me) will have the courage to post.  My 
words are not always true(especially because I am a beginner), but
I would like to know and learn more, I guess no one will ever think
he is the greatest and no need to learn anymore .
  Anyway, I really wish people can keep a good atitude here and enjoy
others ideas.
P.S.  If I am wrong again, feel free to correct me. thanx
Eric
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: kasainio@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: HELP! Best MIDI Cables (20 ft.)???
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:37:27 GMT

In article <skipa.713387098@milton>, skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson) writes:
> I've followed the thread regarding HOSA cables and since
> that's what my local store carries, wondered what other
> brands I should consider.
> 
> I want to get some new 20 ft. MIDI cables.  What is the best
> brand to buy and where can I mail order them?  Price info
> would also help.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> skipa@milton.acs.washington.edu

If you want the very best cables, you should have fiber optics cables.
There are converters which use optical cables to transport MIDI signals.

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From: huston@mksol.dseg.ti.com (william a huston)
Subject: Re: synth lists  (Korg 01W family)
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Keywords: korg 01/W 01W mailing list
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:58:38 GMT

In article <714321341.420000.D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>, D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby) writes:
|> I've heard of an Ensoniq EPS list mentioned here several times,
|> but without an address. I've also heard that there's a list for
|> Korg T owners. I'm looking for a list for M1 owners. Does someone
|> have a list of these specialized synth mailing lists? 
|> If you know of any, can you please post their addresses here?
|> Everyone will benefit. Why keep these lists secret?
|>  
|>    Pax,
|> 
|>     Dana

I have just started a list for Korg 01W family synths (01/W 01/Wfd
Pro, ProX, 03R/W etc.)  Right now I collect questions, comments,
etc and compile newsletter style; soon I'll have a "mail reflector"
for immediate rebroadcast to the entire list.

If anyone is interested, send me email.


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From: jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Shaggy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream Equipment on this tour
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:18:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Tangerine Dream? I have yet to see them in concert ( I have about 30
of their albums ) Can anyone tell when and where they are touring???

Thanks.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: darrin@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Darrin P Cardani)
Subject: Re: Pointer to Mark Mothersbaugh
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 11:15:57 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: darrin@arrakis.engin.umich.edu


He did a song I saw a video for on MTV once. I taped it, but it has since
been erased. The song was called "Trilobites." I remeber thinking it was`
pretty funny. Anyone know of this song?

						DArrin Cardani
darrin@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Subject: Re: Portamento...
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:50:04 GMT

mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) writes:

>In rec.music.synth, scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>> Portamento seemed to disappear when sample players started to take over.
>> Perhaps it is a little more difficult to do with sample playback (although
>> I don't see why).

>Perhaps it is because, with the exception of the pennywhistle and slide
>trombone, acoustic instruments generally don't have this feature either, so
>the manufacturers figured why bother adding it to a machine intended to
>reproduce acoustic sounds.  Of course, they are trying to market some of the
>sample players as "real synthesizers", so you'd expect portamento there.  But
>I imagine most U-20/Sound Canvas/Proteus owners couldn't care less.

The EPS 16 Plus does portamento.

Scott.
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From: craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.multimedia
Subject: multimedia question
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:19:40 GMT
Reply-To: craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson)
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia, SC


We are looking at putting together a multimedia PC and I have a 
question about the MIDI side of it.  Should we be getting a General
MIDI sound module or does that really matter?  We like the sound and
flexability of a sampler and are looking at the EPS 16+ Turbo.  If 
we were looking for General MIDI we would be looking at the Sound Canvas
or 03R/W.  Would General MIDI be a better choiceand easier to integrate?
This will be for a Product Center to showcase our new machines and we want
to be able to give a good presentation.  Any advice will be appreciated.

Craig

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 11:14:45 ADT
From:         Alan Edwards <aedwards@JUPITER.CSD.UNB.CA>
Subject:      Last word on cooking with gas

I did not have anything to contribute to the earlier thread on methods of
cooking, but have recently come across the ultimate reference book,
recommended by: Robert Moog
                Kieth Emerson
                John Cage
                W. Carlos

The book is Moog's Musical Eatery by Shirleigh Moog, Bob's wife, and she states:

  "..a stove with gas burners and two built in electric ovens. I like the
  immediate response of a gas flame and have noticed that electric ovens
  produce jucier meats than gas ovens."

So there.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: 092133@adpdp2.lanl.gov (092133)
Subject: Wanted: Kurzweil K-250(B)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, EMVAX
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:11:00 GMT

A friend of mine who does not have access to the net asked me to post the
following request.  Please respond directly to him and NOT to my em address.

Dinosaur Wanted: Kurzweil K-250(B) fully loaded or rack version or sound
modules.  Proteus sound modules.  Will pay cash and COD.

Thank You.
Paul-David Fletcher
832 East Palace, Suite D
Santa Fe, NM 87501
Evenings: (505) 982-2015


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