HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague)
Subject: Re: Restoration of out-of-focus images
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:37:14 GMT

From article <41581@pprg.eece.unm.edu.pprg.unm.edu>, by "Mario Errico" <errico@staff.tc.umn.edu>:
> Hello Mathew, khorosers,
> 
> speaking of Image Restoration, are RLAB or other khoros routines usable for 
> improving the quality of images degraded by out-of-focus: for example obtained 
> with a video or still camera not foucused correctly (or just because of shallow 
> depth-of-field)?
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Mario
> 
>

I am also interested in answers to this question. Please post replies.

Thanks in advance.

Keith Teague
From: rasure@borris.eece.unm.edu (John Rasure)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: DLG2VIFF
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:30:56 GMT


In "DLG2VIFF", Chris Blasband writes:
+ I have received over 900 DLG files from USGS and I am
+ trying to use the dlg2viff command to transform them
+ into viff files. When I type in the command, Khoros
+ just sits there and does nothing (it does not even
+ open up the output file).
+ 
+ Has anyone successfully read in the optional formatted
+ DLG files, and if so, what's the trick.

It has been awhile since this has come up.  About 9 months ago, we
considered rewriting the dlg2viff code for a Khoros 1.0 patch - but
we did not.  It was implemented poorly.

What prompted us to look at it in detail was that there was a bug on SUNS
that did not show up on DEC machines .... in trying to track it down we
decided the best thing to do was leave it alone and rewrite it when we
get resources to do so - it may or may not be in Khoros 2.0.

John Rasure

+ 
+ - -Chris Blasband
+  Photon Research Associates, Inc.
End of message from Chris Blasband
From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Problem displaying a classification
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:44:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.41620

On Nov 10, 12:55, Luis A. Ruiz - res. assoc wrote:
} Subject: Problem displaying a classification
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> 	I am trying to classify some images using cantata and, when I want to display them, I get an error message with the routine xvd_initialize_colormap:
>> "Can only display images with a map storage type of byte".
>> 
>> 	The steps I follow are:
>> 
>> 	- CONVERT raw > VIFF (short)
>> 	- CONVERT type float
>> 	- IMG ANALYS classif K-means, getting a cluster image and stats file.
>> 	- CONVERT- map & LUT's- Map data thru map.
>> 	- OUTPUT - display images, using input img, colormap img.
>> 	(I also tried converting the colormap image file to type byte).
>> 
>> I'm just starting with Khoros and I'd appreciate any advise to solve this problem.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Luis
>> Dept Agricultural Engineering, LSU
}-- End of excerpt from Luis A. Ruiz - res. assoc


The kmeans program saves the cluster center values in the map data. This
allows that application "spectrum" to work correctly. You can ge the classify
toolbox from pprg.eece.unm.edu in the pub/khoros/toolbox/classify directory.
This is an interactive classifaction application that takes its input from
the output of the clustering routines.

If you just want to display the cluster number image (the result from vkmeans)
then use vremmap to remove the map so that the image can be displayed. You do
not want the Map data thru map before displaying.

I hope this helps,

Tom

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From: kelly@c3serve.c3.lanl.gov (Patrick M. Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Patched lvextract () routine available
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:40:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Nov13.174033.4814
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Originator: kelly@wienerdog.c3.lanl.gov


Hi Everyone,
 
Khoros 1.5 has a small bug in the lvextract () routine  When extracting
portions of a BIT image, it always extracts data on even byte boundaries.
For instance, if you try to extract an image using something like...
 
     % vextract -x 245 -y 250 -w 128 -c 128 -i infile.xv -o outfile.viff
 
you will acutually get an identical result as if you had performed
 
     % vextract -x 248 -y 250 -w 128 -c 128 -i infile.xv -o outfile.viff
 
The file lvextract.new.c holds a modified lvextract () routine which
correctly handles extracting BIT data from arbitrary positions within
an image.
 
Of course, a standard disclaimer applies to this code.  Neither the 
author, the Government, nor the University of California makes any warranty, 
express or implied, or assumes any liability responsibility for the use of 
this software.
 
     Pat
 
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Los Alamos, NM  87545                    Email:    kelly@lanl.gov
From: wes@ux6.lbl.gov (Wes Bethel)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: 4-D data plot needed
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:09:55 GMT

>A friend of mine has data a file in X Y Z E-value format.  
>The E-value is the energy value at X Y Z.
>He wants a 3D contour plot of this data.  I had no problem getting
>xprism3 to plot a cube of X Y Z values, but thats not what he wants.
>I guess this could be consider a 4-dimensional data set.
>How do I approach this problem?  Will Khoros do it?  If not,
>can anybody recommend anything what will?  
>We have DECstations running X-Windows under Ultrix 4.2A.

This is 3D, not 4D data.  You have a bunch of scalars in space, and
want a 3d contour, aka, isosurface.

Visualization techniques such as isosurface computation along with
support for rendering the resulting geometry will be available in
Khoros 2.0.

As far as I know, there is no readily available "freeware" paackage
that will do this for you.

There are numerous packages, not for free, that will do this.
From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: printing manuals
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:08:12 GMT


> 1. I am using Ultrix R4.2, the roff processor here are "roffbib" and
> "nroff". I don't know how to chose which one.
> 
Neither. You need a roff formatter for print output, such as
eroff, psroff, groff, ditroff, troff, etc.. I am using groff 
(a free version from the GNU stuff) and am quite happy with it.
groff can be obtained from your favourite ftp server or from
prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/groff-1.06.tar.Z. Be prepared that
groff needs a C++ compiler, such as gcc.

> 2. The printer available here is "DEClaser 1100", I don't know the
> printer name of it. because when I run "prnmanual" program, it ask for
> a printer name.
> 
Look at the file /etc/printcap. There should be an entry saying
something similar to your printer name. This line consists of words
separated by vertical bars. Use the leftmost of these words as the
printer name. In case of a standard Postscript setup, 'ps' should suffice.

> 3. I haven't found the "charpter.ps.Z" file in "manual" directory, now
> I use the files in "hardcopy" directory. what is the difference between
> these two diretories?
> 
If you use prnmanual, you don't need to worry where files are.
The files in the "hardcopy" directory have been already brought to
a printable postscript form. prnmanual takes your actual manual information
and typesets it. By this you are shure to get the latest&greatest version
and have the ability to format for different output, e.g. over here 
people use A4 paper, not B5.


 Peter Averkamp


Peter Averkamp,                      | email:
Physics Department E20               | petav@radon.e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Techn. Univ. of Munich               | Phone: ++49 (89) 3209-2408 and -2814
D-8046 Garching, Germany             | Fax:   ++49 (89) 3209-2338
From: kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:34:13 GMT
Subject: Re: (none)
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros

In comp.soft-sys.khoros, ercila%TRBOUN.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu writes:

> I would like to obtain a copy of the khoros software. I have a HP 710 and
> Vaxstation 3100 and DEC5500 running under Unix.(or ultrix in the case of VAX)
> I would appreciate some information as to in which of these environments
> khoros works on and how to obtain it.
> Thanks
> Aytul Erci
> Aytul Ercil
> Bogazici University
> Istanbul Turkey

Khoros works on the HP 710 and the DeC machines you mention.
Khoros binaries for the HP machines should be available soon
via anonymous ftp from a site in England.

K. Konstantinides
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: donna@peabody.eece.unm.edu (Donna Koechner-G)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Preserving ASCII file header
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:09:00 GMT

On Nov 2,  8:36pm, The Maverick wrote:
} Subject: Preserving ASCII file headers (asc2viff)
} Hi
}
} I am trying to convert some plain ASCII images to viff format and
} preserve the information contained in the image headers. I tried
} putting a "#" symbol before each of the header lines in my images
} so that asc2viff considers them as comment fields. However the output
} image comment header only contains:
}
}       created by lasc2viff
}
} I know that I can add in the headers as comment fields using vcomment,
} but I hope there is a better way since I have hundreds of images to
} process.
}
}       best regards
}
} | Mail          Dr Ata Etemadi, Blackett Laboratory,                       |
} |               Space and Atmospheric Physics Group,                       |
} |               Imperial College of Science, Technology, and Medicine,     |
} |               Prince Consort Road, London SW7 2BZ, ENGLAND               |
} | Phone      +44 (0)71 589 5111 Ext 6751 or 6752 (secretary/answer phone)  |
} | Fax           +44 (0)71 823 8250 Attn. Dr Ata Etemadi,                   |
} | Telex         929484 (IMPCOL G)  Attn. Dr Ata Etemadi,                   |
} | Janet         atae@uk.ac.ic.ph.spva  Earn/Bitnet  atae@spva.ph.ic.ac.uk  |
} | Internet/Arpanet atae%spva.ph.ic.ac.uk  Span         SPVA::atae          |
} | UUCP/Usenet      atae%spva.ph.ic@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk                      |
}-- End of excerpt from The Maverick

Unfortunately, the generic conversion routines in khoros do not retain
header information (it comes in so many forms).  I think the easiest
thing to do would be to take the existing asc2viff program and modify
it to save you header information into the VIFF comment field.  (Just
what you wanted to hear, right?)  Note that in the current version of 
VIFF, the comment field can only be 512 bytes.

(If you do modify the asc2viff program, I imagine that several users 
would happy if you posted it to the net.)

Donna
From: abadmota@yoko.rutgers.edu (Soraya Abad Mota)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Routine to put imagedata in an array?
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:14:00 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hello there!
  I have some code I have to install in Khoros. This code treats
images as a 256 x 256 array of intensity values, I have converted
the images used by this software into the viff format using raw2viff. 
My question is, is there a routine for grabbing the data part of the
viff file and put it into an array? I know I can do it by hand but
was just wondering if this was done already as part of the main 
libraries in Khoros.

Thanks in advance,
Soraya Abad-Mota (abadmota@paul.rutgers.edu)
From: young@chama.eece.unm.edu (Mark Young)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: funny extract ROI
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:35:53 GMT

Hi,

On Nov 5,  9:59pm, Henry Katz wrote:
} Subject: funny extract ROI
} From hkatz@nucmed.med.nyu.edu  Thu Nov  5 19:40:50 1992
} 
} Hi Khoros people,
} 
} While I was minding my own business I encountered a weirdness using
} one of the features of the editimage utility (from within cantata). I
} had put up someone's MRI and had used the ROI panel under the image
} utilities button in order to perform a Sobel filter on the cerebellum. So
} I moved the lines for the extract ROI then clicked on the extract button and
} had a popup warn me that it could't find find the sobel kernel in:
} 
} ${KHOROS_HOME}/data/kernels/sobel_x.

This looks strange to me.  Why are there {} around the $KHOROS_HOME?  This
should have looked for $KHOROS_HOME/data/kernels/sobel_x.  Also, how did
you the vsobel operation within editimage?  This is not one of the default
roi operations.  Did you type this into the optional command widget?  Or
was the vsobel done thru cantata and you were just trying to extract
a region into the cantata pipeline?

} 
} So obviously, I checked my path, my env var and then the directory and
} all was present and in order. Where did I goof? Anyone...
} 
} Henry Katz
} Dir. Computational Facilities
} Neuroscience Pet LAB
} Mt. Sinai Medical Center
} 
} hkatz@nucmed10.med.nyu.edu
} 
}-- End of excerpt from Henry Katz


If you can mail back some more details we can try and take a look, but
i'm a little confused as to where to start looking for the problem.

			thanks in advance,
				Mark

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Mark Young                         young@chama.eece.unm.edu
 
Khoros Group                       (505) 277-6563  (work)
University of New Mexico           Albuquerque,    NM 87131
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: hkatz@nucmed.med.nyu.edu (Henry Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: funny extract ROI
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:55:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.41490

Hi Khoros people,

While I was minding my own business I encountered a weirdness using
one of the features of the editimage utility (from within cantata). I
had put up someone's MRI and had used the ROI panel under the image
utilities button in order to perform a Sobel filter on the cerebellum. So
I moved the lines for the extract ROI then clicked on the extract button and
had a popup warn me that it could't find find the sobel kernel in:

${KHOROS_HOME}/data/kernels/sobel_x.

So obviously, I checked my path, my env var and then the directory and
all was present and in order. Where did I goof? Anyone...

Henry Katz
Dir. Computational Facilities
Neuroscience Pet LAB
Mt. Sinai Medical Center

hkatz@nucmed10.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
From: dmcquaid@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Devin McQuaid)
Subject: Re: AN INFORMATION SYSTEMS CAREER
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:48:22 GMT

In article <92310.190820HK3599A@auvm.american.edu> Hussain M. Kanaan <HK3599A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>HI, I AM A GRATUATE STUDENT AT AU. I AM MAJORING IN INFORMATION SYSTEMS. THIS
>IS MY FIRST SEMESTER IN THIS FIELD OF STUDY. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE YOUR EXPERI-
>ENCE BY ASKING THE FOLLOWING QUESTION.
>1- DOES SYSTEMS ANALYSTS WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO
>   SUPPORT INFORMATION SYSTEMS?
>2-DO I NEED THE AKNOWLEDGE OF COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY TO BECOME AN EFFECTIVE SYSTEM
>  ANALYSTS?.
>3- DO INFORMATION SYSTEMS REALLY HANDLE INFORMATION?.
>
>                                  ANY RESPONSE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.....
>                                       THANK YOU
>                                       KANAAN

	Why are you SHOUTING?
-Devin


Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
From: lashlepi@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Phillip Lashley)
Subject: Help needed on OUTSOURCING
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:31:03 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Keywords: outsourcing

Hello,
I realise that this may not be the most approprite forum for this request, and apologise for any inconvenience caused.
My area of interest is MIS, with a particular focus on outsourcing as a  
valid method of providing an organisation with its Information Services.
I have noted that a lot of the material in this area is based on the practical
experience of IT executives.  I would sincerly appreciate any assistance you or your organisation might be able to offer in terms of identifying research work
readings, documented experience (good or bad), in this relatively new area.  Looking foward to hearing from you.

Phil Lashley
Technical University of Nova Scotia
Tel:(902)-4207892
Fax:(902)-4207858
From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Announcing the new GOPHER server at HENSA/micros
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:14:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.


Announcing the new GOPHER server at HENSA/micros
================================================

HENSA/micros would like to announce the opening of their new Internet 
GOPHER service.  


If you have a gopher client program then you can access the HENSA/micros
archive by issuing the command:

	gopher micros.hensa.ac.uk

Since all the files on the HENSA/micros archive are encoded into ASCII
format, they can all be transferred via the Internet Gopher document
delivery service.

Martin Kalugin.

email:   hensa@uk.ac.hensa.micros
From: rhughes@ucsd.edu (Richard J. Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: More people would use gopher if ...
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:51:12 GMT
Organization: ucsd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-slip24.ucsd.edu

In article <BxMJLI.n0B@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lnosek@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Luke Nosek) writes:
>From: lnosek@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Luke Nosek)
>Subject: More people would use gopher if ...
>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:24:52 GMT
>	... IT DIDN'T HAVE SUCH A STUPID NAME!!!
>
>	Who is the idiot who named it GOPHER? I almost have to say it with
>"stupid" sounding tone in my voice.
>
>	I really like gopher - the access to information in such a format
>is a great idea - but they oughta call it something that people can feel proud
>about when they use it!

You're the idiot.  Gopher is a cute and clever name.

Richard J. Hughes
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: "Gopherwalk", anyone?  
From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:36:35 GMT
Reply-To: doelz@urz.unibas.ch
Organization: EMBnet Switzerland [BASEL]   


I need a tool which takes a list of adresses and walks down their trees 
in GOPHER. Is such a tool or a silmilar software existent, please let
me know. 

Regards 
Reinhard 


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From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Help with execing shell scripts
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:22:01 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Roger Brockie) writes:


>Tonight I was playing around with executing a shell script via gopher.
>But I can't get any output displayed.  I know the scripts being run,
>I've traced the code through printfile to the writestring back to the
>client and the data is getting through.  But the client always comes
>back with nothing happened.

>I'm using a DECsystem (Ultrix v4.2a) gopher 1.1abeta (but 1.03 gives the same
>result) with the 1.1abeta client, and a VMS client (0.6 I think).

>Has anyone any ideas ?

>Roger
>-- 
>brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz

You're doing better than me... I can't get it to execute the script at
all... what is the secret?

I'm coming from a SunOS 4.1.2 environment so maybe this advice is not
valid, but it might be that Gopher is trapping the stdout from your
script.  IN that case, you could try redirecting your output directly to
the tty (it would be /dev/tty under SunOS).

--
Larry Broda
Systems Administration
Department of Psychology,
University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana
email: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: kemp@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (John Kemp)
Subject: ftp links?
Organization: University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:57:23 GMT

I tested UMinn's ftp link to NCSA.  It worked perfectly.
So I looked at UMinn's link to NCSA with "=".  I copied it
to my server, and tried it.  The command returns

Nothing Available.

In fact!!! I notice that even the UIUC gopher server 
(at "gopher.uiuc.edu") also bombs out in the same way.  
Is there some secret about making ftp links?

Thanks in advance,
JohnKemp@uiuc.edu
From: tplabuza@staff.tc.umn.edu ("Ted Labuza")
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: news
Date: 6 Nov 92 10:54:36 GMT
Reply-To: "Ted Labuza" <tplabuza@staff.tc.umn.edu>
Distribution: comp
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu

Since I am going to Europe for twp weeks I would like to sign-off so I dont get 
piling up. I would take my modem but the cost of connections is too much for lon
there some way to make a local call eg in Valencia Spain or in The Hague and sig
network? I use McSlip from home. Is there a way to modify the Hayes semigeneric 
case sign me off until Nov 20.

Dr Ted Labuza <tplabuza@epx.cis.umn.edu>
Department of Food Science and Nutrition 136 ABLMS
University of Minnesota
St. Paul MN 55108
Voice 612-624-9701 or Home 612-633-8928
Fax 612-625-5272 or Home Fax 612-633-0627

There is no such thing as a poverty of time, rather there is a poverty of being 
"NO".
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Re: Help with execing shell scripts
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:30:23 GMT

brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Roger Brockie) writes:

>Tonight I was playing around with executing a shell script via gopher.
>But I can't get any output displayed.  I know the scripts being run,
>I've traced the code through printfile to the writestring back to the
>client and the data is getting through.  But the client always comes
>back with nothing happened.

I'm using an SGI.  This is what I have, to get the script to go.

The link is:

Name=Test Exec
Type=0
Path=exec:"foo" "bar":/bin/exec
Port=+
Host=+

I am running gopherd -Cc, so I am not chroot(2)ing.  Script /bin/exec
is:

#!/bin/sh
echo "Argument one: $1\n"
echo "Argument two: $2\n"
exit 0

I don't have sh in the gopher directories, as I'm not chroot(2)ing.
If you are running chroot, you would need to have /bin/sh present.

The exec script has protections set so that the user which gopher is
running under can execute it.

The key points, as far as I know, are:
 * get the Path and Type set properly
 * make the script executable by the gopherd owner
 * have #! present (it's needed)
 * have sh in the gopherd directories if running chroot(2)ed.  

Cheers;

Nat
(Nathan.Torkington@vuw.ac.nz)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Subject: MVS Gopher client and server availability update
Organization: Draper Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:16:00 GMT

The latest edition of the MVS Gopher client and server is now available
via anonymous FTP from boombox.micro.umn.edu, in the directory
/pub/gopher/mvs.

As previously announced, it is also available via the MVS Network Server
at USC.

Information on how to get the boombox version is available in the FAQ,
which was recently posted here.

Information on how to get the SERVICE version was posted previously.

If you missed that info, or have more questions, feel free to drop me
a note at seb@draper.com or seb1525@mvs.draper.com.

---

Steve Bacher (Batchman)                 Draper Laboratory
Internet: seb@draper.com                Cambridge, MA, USA