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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.places
Subject: Handel's "Israel in Egypt" 15 Nov
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:09:24 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL


The Elgin Choral Union Presents:

G.F. Handel's "Israel in Egypt", a sacred oratorio based upon
scriptures from the book of Exodus and the book of Psalms.

	Hemmens Auditorium, Elgin, Illinois
	Sunday, November 15, 1992
	4:00 p.m.

Performed by the Elgin Choral Union, assisted by members of
the Elgin Symphony Orchestra, under the direction of Dr. John G. Slawson,
and featuring countertenor soloist Mark Crayton.

	Adult tickets $15
	Student/Senior $12
	Choice seats are still available.  For ticket information,
	call (708) 697-1000 extension 7225.

This concert is presented in conjunction with the centennial year
celebration of Elgin's Congregation Kneseth Israel.


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Subject: Re: Changes at WLUP (was What happened to Brandmier?)
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:00:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.072302.20797@gagme.chi.il.us> wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer) writes:
>I think that S&G's style is much more atuned to the afternoon drive than
>the mornings

This is interesting considering that Steve and Garry became a
team working the morning drive on WLUP-FM (before AM-1000 was
WLUP-AM).  At the time, Garry Meier was to Steve Dahl what Buzz
is to Johnny B; the person who read the news and made a good
straight man.  If they are more suited to the PM drive it's only
because they've adapted to it.

>S&G helped put AM-1000 on the map, and indeed,
>helped put AM in general on the map in this city.

This needs to be qualified a bit; Steve and Garry put AM-1000 on
the map to the younger crowd which had abandoned it in favor of
FM.  WGN was and is the most listened to station in Chicago but
their demographics lean quite heavily toward an older audience.
I give more credit to Kevin Matthews than Steve Dahl for making
the AM loop as popular as it is.  After all, WLS-FM did quite a
fizzle when Steve and Garry were there.

Trivia time for the true Steve and Garry fan: who is Garry
parodying when he does 'Cliff'?

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
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e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
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From: ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us (Dave Ihnat)
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Summary: Actually, three candidates remain for this term...
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:43:10 GMT

In article <lfgrsmINNli@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.093336.22818@ils.nwu.edu> mccoy@ils.nwu.edu writes:
>
>>...and we will probably have the supreme court locked solid in a couple
>>of years.  Double ha.) 
>
>Sadly, no.  Reagan/Bush spent 12 years putting conservative *young*
>judges on the court.  (I think 7 out of 9.)  How many of these will
>Clinton get to replace?

Actually, three remaining "older" non-Reagan/Bush justices have been
waiting to retire until after the elections; and they are the most liberal
remaining of the current Supreme Court.  It now appears that at least
we'll be able to get a more reasonably balanced Supreme Court mix, rather
than the terrifying vision of a packed, young (relatively) court for the next
30-40 years.

One of the most terrifying things about the last 12 years--beyond the
unbelievable deficit spending practices--has been the incredible attack on
individual freedoms and privacy, mostly in the name of the so-called war on
drugs.  I mean, think of it--we actually condone seizure of property on
*arrest* and *charges*, before the accused ever has a chance to go to court!
Mandatory drug testing of individuals with no prior criminal record or history
of even suspicion of drug use, for jobs in which the question of drug use is
totally irrelevant to their job description!

No matter how bad Clinton can be, his views can't be as divorced from
reality and day-to-day rational perception of life in this country as George
after 12 years in that 300-odd square miles of unreality known as Washington.

		Dave Ihnat
		ignatz@homebru.chi.il.us (preferred return address)
		ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: Changes at WLUP (was What happened to Brandmier?)
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:35:27 GMT

In article <BxMFzH.1Dw@ddsw1.mcs.com> barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart) writes:
>mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews) wrote:
>:In article <1992Nov9.220053.12897@sdc.com> kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:
>:>
>:>Trivia time for the true Steve and Garry fan: who is Garry
>:>parodying when he does 'Cliff'?
>:
>:Cliff Mercer of WGN radio/TV.  He was a staff announcer who for a while did the
>:"The Bozo Show."
>:
>:Actually they will deny that Cliff is Cliff Mercer since the character evolved into
>:the sponsor of "Cliff's Radio Camp for Boys" and friend of "Andre the Chef."
>:
>:Jack Taylor almost Ka-boshed the bit when he told Steve that the real Cliff was
>:having a bad time with his personal life.
>:
>
>Oh yeah ... I remember this now.  Say, where did Jack Taylor wind up
>after his beautiful music stint went away?
>
>Aaron
>

Just saw him today. He's on Channel 26's Stock Market Observer all day. He is
a bit of a geek. I saw him once running new Wrigley Field with his tongue
wrapped around his cheek.  To think that he was once THE main news anchor on
a VHF TV station in the country's third largest market. Those were the days-
when WGN had a news staff that looked like it escaped from Skid Row.
-- 
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Mike Andrews                                             VideOcart, Inc.
mandrews@hq.videocart.com                                300 South Wacker Drive
Network Administrator                                    Chicago, IL 60606 USA
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From: bill@ixcim.att.com (Bill Duncan)
Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:18:01 GMT
Organization: AT&T
Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com


In article <Bx8s7q.1Cw@gator.rn.com>, larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
|> We are really screwed with Clinton.  
|> 
|> His home state is on the bottom of the pile for average salary,
|> education, teachers salary, insurance claims, lawsuits, etc.
|> 
|> We're screwed.

This is pretty simplistic. His state was on the bottom when he took 
office. 

I think the question is whether it's moving up or down. With most of
the rest of the states going down the toilet, just keeping Arkansas
level wouldn't have been a bad accomplishment.

-- 
+----------------------------------------------------+
| Bill Duncan                        AT&T Bell Labs  |
| bill@ixcim.att.com                 Naperville IL   |
+----------------------------------------------------+
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From: jnoh@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jay W. Noh)
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:58:24 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL


Thank you Pennsylvania!

Thank you veto proof Illinois!

-- 
Internet:   jnoh@ddsw1.mcs.com
CIS:  72437.1040@compuserve.com
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:13:08 CST
From: Francine Cannarozzi <U58664@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Off-Leash Area for Dog Owners


This has obviously been dragged into some sort of personal flame war
between you two.  It no longer has anything to do with the subject line,
nor does it belong in this news group.  Why don't you two carry this
on personally and keep it off this group?  Thanks.
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: tarr@finndo.uchicago.edu (Doug Tarr)
Subject: Re: Changes at WLUP (was What happened to Brandmier?)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:45:19 GMT

In article <BxBC6A.1z0@portal.hq.videocart.com>  
mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews) writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.072302.20797@gagme.chi.il.us> wdp@gagme.chi.il.us  
(Bill Pfeiffer) writes:
> >
> Brian are just 2nd rate Steve & Garry clones.  And Stern himself has  
been
> ripping them off for years.  I predict that Stern will have the same 
> longevity as Morton Downey, Jr. and those before him.  Those one-trick  
pony
> acts don't have staying power.
> 
> --Mike Andrews

I've been listening to Stern for a few years now, and I'm glad that he's  
finally in Chicago  (I'm from Jersey...don't hold it against me)  Anyway,  
I'm sure that Steve & Garry (as well as everyone else) spew the same  
garbage that Stern has about people ripping him off blah blah blah.  If I  
were from Chicago, I don't think that I would like Stern either, though,  
because, as someone said in a previous post, he yaps too much about places  
and things that happen back east.  However, I don't consider him to be a  
"one-trick pony act", and contrary to popular belief, he doesn't always  
talk about genitals.  He is actually fairly intelligent (a resource  
desperately lacking in a lot of morning radio) and he often discusses  
issues and things which many or most announcers refuse to even touch.   
Thus, he is controversial, and a lot of people hate him.  But I think that  
that just adds to his popularity.   I think Stern is entertaining, but  
then again, I started listening to him during puberty....  (I don't care,  
I think most of his penis jokes are funny)  Besides, I don't see a  
newsgroup labeled "alt.fan.steve&garry"  And we all know that having a  
newsgroup named after oneself is the ultimate achievement for a radio  
personality ;)
					Doug
					(tarr@midway.uchicago.edu)


				
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Changes at WLUP (was What happened to Brandmier?)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:37:06 GMT

In article <BxMpn4.19J@portal.hq.videocart.com> mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews) writes:
>In article <BxMFzH.1Dw@ddsw1.mcs.com> barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart) writes:
>>Oh yeah ... I remember this now.  Say, where did Jack Taylor wind up
>>after his beautiful music stint went away?

>Just saw him today. He's on Channel 26's Stock Market Observer all day. He is
>a bit of a geek. I saw him once running new Wrigley Field with his tongue
                                         ?????????????????
>wrapped around his cheek.  To think that he was once THE main news anchor on
>a VHF TV station in the country's third largest market. Those were the days-
>when WGN had a news staff that looked like it escaped from Skid Row.

Yeah, what _did_ happen to Len O'Connor?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: Off-Leash Area for Dog Owners
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:36:07 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

vandezande@inland.com writes:
: In article <Bx761J.12D@ddsw1.mcs.com>, arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
: > peed@rtsg.mot.com (Andrew Peed) writes:
: > : In article <BwzqrC.Kw3@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
: > : >I do pay property taxes that the government pisses away on enough unnecessary
: > : >rubbish.  We don't need taxpayer supported pets trashing up the environment.
: > : 
: > :I justify my right to generate rubbish by paying taxes.  
: 
: First you whine about the goverment generating rubbish with your taxes,
: then you insist you have the right to generate rubbish by paying taxes.
: Your logic escapes me.
: 
: >Dogs have no rights
: > other than to be left alone 
: 
: Well, it never occurred to me to grant dogs the right to generate rubbish by
: paying taxes.  Perhaps you have a point.
: 
: >and if they were left alone, they would be gone
: > just like most wild life.... 
: 
: In Lincoln park, both squirrels and pigeons outnumber dogs hundreds to one, 
: and nobody cleans up after them.  This is another urban crisis the government 
: absolutely refuses to confront.  Filthy liberal cowards.
 

You seem to forget that squirrels and pigeons (rock doves) are indigineous,
native species which are being crowded to what little "wild" land is left.
They were here first and the ecosystem was capable of deailing with their
deposits.  Only a pooper scooper can deal with domestic pet waste where
the land must be share with humans.
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: Changes at WLUP (was What happened to Brandmier?)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:50:02 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

This is in reply to wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer), who wrote:
:
:Howard Stern is on FM stations in every market except this one.  Why
:did't the LOOP put HIM on the FM, where he is everywhere else, and
:leave S&G on the AM?  After all that these men (S&G) have meant to so many
:Chicagoans, it looks like the station is just putting them on the FM
:to fade away.  With all their flaws and ego-battles, S&G have consistantly
:delivered a top 5 and usually top 3 rating in their afternoon slot.
:Brandmeier has also delivered big numbers.  

[attempts Michael Frankel impersonation]

So what!!   So your fat slob friends *used* to deliver big ratings !!
Anybody can do that after 3 pm!!   So they moved!!  BOO HOOOOOOO.

[puts clothes back on again, removes pacifier from mouth]

Actually, Bill, I don't think this was done to accommodate Stern,
it was done to accommodate Brandmeier.  Mid-career crisis, you
might call it, as opposed to the end-of-career crisis that Wally
Phillips and then Larry Lujack went through.

If management was telling S&G to take a hike, believe me, you
would be hearing about it nonstop during their radio show.

:AM-1000 is nationally famous for their innovative programming.  FM
:97.9 is, after all, just another album rock station in a sea of album
:rock stations.  Steve and Garry deserve more exposure, they deserve a
:better shake and I think LOOP management has made a grave error in
:favoring the satellite fed Howard Stern over our local broadcast
:treasures.  But, *they* run the station, not I, and only time will tell
:what will happen next.  
:

Again, this is the most pessimistic scenario possible, and I just
don't buy it.  The *Loop* is also nationally famous for their rock
programming -- not a format that they invented from scratch, unlike
AM 1000's, but still, give credit where it's due.

Having said this, Steve and Garry are the only two folx I regularly
catch on either Loop AM or FM.  They will be sorely tested by this
change.  However, after years of censorship and stupid formats, they
have come to respect their bosses at WLUP and are willing to join
them in risk-taking.  Competition can only do them good, IMO, and
after about a year or so of Stern, trust me, they will have AM 1000
for the asking if they so choose.

S&G, it should also be noted, were reluctant pioneers, taking the
WLS-AM show only after management forced them to, and making it work
despite incompetent if not malevolent treatment from above.  Seven
years later, they may genuinely want to be back on the FM in which
case I say, you earned it guys.  If they want to be on AM, I say,
earn it back, guys, I know you can.

Aaron


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From: e91petmo@odalix.ida.liu.se (Peter /\/\odin)
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:26:30 GMT

>In article <1992Nov4.161616.21762@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>I hope you're a big fan of deficit spending, censorship and all the
>>other things that made this country so great.

I can see why Republicans expect deficit spending. But how do you mean,
censorship? Are you referring to Tipper Gore?

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Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism
From: res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt)
Subject: Re: Short-Term notes (Was Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:52:40 GMT
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance, short-term notes

In article <BxIKI0.161@chinet.chi.il.us>, ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us (Dave Ihnat) writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.010923.26989@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael
> Zimmers) writes:
> >I don't remember what amount of the debt is kept in short-term notes,
> 
> Interestingly enough, Perot brought this up just before the election.  I
> believe some 70% of the debt is in notes that come due in 7 years or less.
> When it comes to business figures like this, I'm willing to believe Perot.

Based on a segment I saw on one of the cable news stations, I would
have a hard time believing anything Perot said unless I could read the
original source information myself.  The pointed out a number of GROSS
inaccuracies in the "facts and figures" he quoted.  No, in my opinion
Perot was on one magnificent ego trip and the media and a small number
of fools played right into his hands!

					Rich Strebendt
					...!att!ihlpb!res
					r.strebendt@att.com

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt)
Subject: Re: C. Braun
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:02:55 GMT

In article <721374172.0.p00056@mail.psi.net>, "Faustus" <p00056@mail.psi.net> writes:
> >DATE:   Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:11:06 GMT
> >FROM:   Matt Crawford <crawdad@fncent>
> >"Faustus" <p00056@mail.psi.net> writes:
> > >The NRA doesnt support the criminal use of firearms or wish to see
> > >anyone use a firearm in a unlawful manner.
> >
> >Of course.  It's just that so damn many deer are wearing those kevlar
> >vests these days, that simple, innocent hunters *need* teflon-jacketed
> >bullets.
> Sorry buddy, but I think an adult human being has a right to self-defense
> of body as well as nation..

Sounds great to me.  As soon as they become legal, I would like to buy
a 50 caliber machine gun to mount on the hood of my car (just for
defense, of course).  On either side of the front end of the car I
would also like to mount a pair of recoilless rifles in case the
slowpoke in front of me can't take a hint from the tracers from the
machine gun (just for defense, of course).

Remember: Guns do not kill people -- they just make the job a hell of
a lot easier.

					Rich Strebendt
					...!att!ihlpb!res
					r.strebendt@att.com
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From: "Faustus" <p00056@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Carol M. Braun
Organization: INFERNO
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 13:41:26 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

Jesus!

	I was listening to the LOOP while doing my morning trek and 
heard this long litany of lies about the National Rifle Association
during a election diatribe on the behalf of Carol M. Braun.
The NRA doesnt support the criminal use of firearms or wish to see
anyone use a firearm in a unlawful manner. If you really want to know
the truth call the NRA at 202-828-6000.

Faustus
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From: rubis@gagme.chi.il.us (Dave Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Off-Leash Area for Dog Owners
Originator: rubis@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:22:59 GMT

In article <BxIE20.9ur@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
|rubis@gagme.chi.il.us (Dave Svoboda) writes:
|: 
|: |Perhaps you missed the news this week...
|: |
|: |American Israel Public Affairs Committee...
|: |is in total control of Clinton's transition team.
|: 
|
|Nice selective editing.  You left out the part where the head of
|AIPAC was forced to resign for having bragged about it.

Wasn't the part that I left the basic idea of your article?  I thought I
pretty well delineated your paranoid fantasies.  Anyone who is crazy 
enough to believe that you have a point certainly can read the previous
article, or contact you.

Again, what I quoted was your point, wasn't it?

|: |If it is not bad enough that a foreign country is dictation the makeup of
|: |the next administration, it is even worse that this story was not reported
|: |on a single evening TV news show, weekend news or anywhere other than
|: |the VOA and a few obscure newspapers.
|: |
|: |Fantasy my ASS!
|: 
|: Boy, am I relieved!  I thought you might NOT prove my point.  But, I should've
|: known you'd come through in the end.
|
|Yes, it makes more sense when you do not edit out the details.

Paranoid delusions rarely make sense to sane people.

(Oh, and I fully expect you made up the whole article.)

		Svoboda 
Xref: sparky chi.general:1477 rec.pets.dogs:13276
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Newsgroups: chi.general,rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Off-Leash Area for Dog Owners
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:37:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ddsw1.BxAwr2.21L
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

rubis@gagme.chi.il.us (Dave Svoboda) writes:
: In article <Bx761J.12D@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
: |I really dislike domestic dogs 
: 
: News flash, Jack.  Few if any dogs are practicing Jews.  You don't
: have to hate them, too.
: 
 

Thank you Mr Chutzpanazi.

js
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