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From: mgy@steele.ohsu.edu (Michael Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem adding WrkSta to netinfo
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:11:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Jul22.011120.23862
Distribution: na
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University


Help!

I have three workstation (slabs) I have been trying to add to
the netinfo network and I keep getting the following messages when
I try to boot the systems after they have been added to the
netinfo server:

      syslog: netinfo sleeping:RPC:Unable to receive;errno = connection
      reset by peer
      lookupd: netinfo sleeping:RPC:Unable to receive;errno = connection
      reset by peer

I have all of the correct ethernet/IP/hostname stuff right.  I tried
deleting and readding to the server.  I should mention that two of the
machines were not turned off when they were added to netinfo (which the
manual says to do...bad doggie!).  I have not experienced this problem
before.  Did the machines being up cause this problem? Is there a file
out there somewhere that needs to be nuked?  The server shows
the new entries as being added and correct.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.


Michael Young                        Internet: mgy@ohsu.edu
Networks & Technical Services     
Oregon Health Sciences University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: skrbec@tophat4.rtsg.mot.com (Brad Skrbec)
Subject: disappearing home icons?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:57:12 GMT

I've had this peculiar problem at home, and haven't
been able to figure it out.  For one account on my
NeXT, when I move the browser to other people's home
directories, I get a folder icon, rather than the
"multiple homes" icon.  All of the other accounts
seem to work correctly, just this one has the problem.

What gives?  Any ideas?

Thanks,
   Brad

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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Disk Quota Apps?
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:13:10 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

cdelay@inferno.uoregon.edu (Christian De Lay) writes:

>Can anyone point me in the general direction of disk quota type utilities?   
>I want to keep some users within a certain level and have the system mail  
>them and me when they go over that limit (or any other sort of  
>notification).

Try Marc Majka's package which should still be available on
sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/1.0-release/source/Quotas.tar.Z.
It's useable, and pretty easy to customize.  It does what you want.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: Can a Fax answer incoming UUCP calls?
Reply-To: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:08:36 GMT

Hi,

Is it possible to set up my fax modem (an Abaton Interfax) to answer both  
incoming Fax and UUCP calls?  If so, can someone give me a quick outline; my  
experiments seem to be failing.  Thanks in advance.  Please reply via email and  
I'll summarize.
-- 
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         900 High School Way - Suite 2106 - Mountain View - CA - 94041
 To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy... and dull
 fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. -- R. A. Heinlen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer)
Subject: Re: Is cron going to get better?
Organization: Metropolis Software, Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:59:10 GMT


This is a little bit off the subject, but...

We have a line in /etc/crontab that should do a uucico at noon and midnight

          0 0,12 * * * uucp /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -r1 -sfernwood

and instead, it does it at 1am and 1pm.

Both "Preferences" and the Unix "date" command show the correct time.

What's going on?

                                        Thanks,

                                        Robert Munyer
                                        robert@metropolis.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Re: disappearing home icons?
Reply-To: sanguish@digifix.com
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:18:48 GMT

Zenon Fortuna writes
> In article <1992Jul23.132804.15966@rtsg.mot.com> skrbec@tophat4.rtsg.mot.com  
(Brad Skrbec) writes:
> >Thanks to all who replied to my question.  The problem turned
> >out to be that I had "Large File System" checked.  My face is
> >red at how simple a question this was...
> 
> It was NOT a simple question. After August 31 it may cost 225$ to find the
> answer (calling NeXT) :-\
> 
> 	-Z.

	I think its important to remember that the NeXT developer support  
program and the NeXT systems support programs are two separate situations.

	The April 15th price list shows Pay-per-Call support is from $40 - $100  
per call.  Less than 10 minutes if $40, more is $100.

	The part numbers are different from the new programs as well.
-- 
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
From: bhead@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: disappearing home icons?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:01:09 GMT
Reply-To: bhead@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: Headfirst Software, Vancouver, BC, Canada

In article <1992Jul21.155712.5633@rtsg.mot.com>  
skrbec@tophat4.rtsg.mot.com (Brad Skrbec) writes:
> I've had this peculiar problem at home, and haven't
> been able to figure it out.  For one account on my
> NeXT, when I move the browser to other people's home
> directories, I get a folder icon, rather than the
> "multiple homes" icon.  All of the other accounts
> seem to work correctly, just this one has the problem.
> 
> What gives?  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,

I had this problem recently as well. It happens on a network when a  
network wide user's account has a user id that is the same as a local user  
id.  Check that the users id doesn't conflict with, say the localhost's  
"me" user, or other local (non-network wide) user.  Use UserManager to  
check this. I neighbourhood is now in order...

...brad
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Bradley Head, bhead@hfs.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail :-)
InStep Mobile Communications Inc., Vancouver, BC CANADA
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: /screens/NeXTdimension ???
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:37:18 GMT
Originator: matthews@oberon.umd.edu

As a followup to my woes about blowing away the /machines directory in
NetInfo via niload -d bootptab, I have another question. (By the way, I
forget if I mentioned this but just about the only recourse after hosing
NetInfo so bad it can't even find a database using machine/tag is to restore
from a backup)

After getting everything set up again, and bringing NetInfo back up to its
previous state (niunparse came in reeeal handy, although it needs to check
syntax more when dealing with NFS mounts in /mounts), I rebooted (after doing
a diff on a before niunparse and an after niunparse; they were identical).

Loginwindow didn't show up.  (I already mentioned that, didn't I?)

Anyway, I noticed when I was bringing NetInfo back up that the backups had a
/screens/NeXTdimension directory, while the standard NeXT one didn't.  The ND
was there, the process was running, things were working, which baffled me.  I
went singleuser, fired up NetInfo (again, /usr/etc/nmserver&;
/usr/etc/portmap; /usr/etc/nibindd) and deleted /screens/NeXTdimension.

All worked fine.

Before:

/screens/NeXTdimension
	slot 2
	unit 0
	bounds 0 1120 0 832
	active 1
/screens/MegaPixel
	slot 0
	unit 0
	bounds 1120 2240 0 832
	active 0

Now:

/screens/MegaPixel
	slot 0
	unit 0
	bounds 1120 2240 0 832
	active 0

<same as above>

*But no /screens/NeXTdimension*

Heeelp.  Anybody know what gives?  What does your NeXTdimension system give
when you do an niutil -list . /screens?  Nothing showed up in my queries to
NeXTanswers, online network and sysadmin, and FAQ.  And that little thing
that came with the Dimension card isn't much help at all.
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
The best thing about growing older is that it takes such a long time.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: /usr/spool/appkit
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:53:18 GMT

Tobias Hennerich writes
> What is this dir good for? I've here a 500k-psfile in it which is a 
> conversion of a TIFF-picture. I think this is left from a system-
> shutdown. Should I insert a cleanup-line in my /usr/adm/weekly for
> this dir?
> 
> Tobi

It seems to be used for spooled print files from applications.  

I would put it in daily, with a find that limits the search to ones over a day  
old.  I also added it to my rc.local, so that it gets cleared on bootup.
From: lga@sandman.stanford.edu (Laurent Amon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: DOS Drive is Slow!!!!!#%$@#&^#@$
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:28:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: leland.1992Jul26.192817.15954
Reply-To: amon@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University

In article <1992Jul26.172229.14177@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>  
sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis) writes:
>  Laurent Amon writes
>  > 	Well, the DOS filesystem on the NeXT *is* slow. So slow that you 
>  > shouldn't use the workspace to transfer files on DOS disks. You should  
grab 
>  > the mtools from the net. They are infinitely faster. 
>  
>    Hmmm...  What are these "mtools" you speak of?
>  
There are a set of tools to access a DOS floppy on a UNIX machine. They 
will give you a series of commands, named after the DOS equivalent, with
an added m in front (mdir, mcopy, mcd,...). They compile on any UNIX machine
and I don't remember having had to change anything to make them work, at
least with 1.44MB disks.

You can find them on any comp.sources.unix archive, like at usc.edu,
or gatekeeper.dec.com. the mtools are in the volume 11, the mtools2
(a newer version, I presume) in the volume 25. 

Hope it helps --- And to anybody who don't have them yet, get them.

Lga.
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       e-mail: amon@cs.stanford.edu    | a wizard. Something about following
           lga@sandman.stanford.edu    | a yellow sick toad. (Moving Pictures)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lga@sandman.stanford.edu(Laurent Amon)
Subject: Re: Syntax for .forward fils
Reply-To: amon@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 01:39:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.205930.27509@terminator.cc.umich.edu>  
jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason) writes:
>  
>  Can someone point me to documentation of the .forward file for rerouting  
mail?   
>  I've searched (with Digital Librarian) through the man pages, NeXT docs,  
FAQs  
>  and NeXTAnswers and find only one reference, in an example in the vacation  
man  
>  page.  I'd like to see a precise statement of what .forward can do, and the  
>  correct syntax.
>  
Simple. The syntax is one address per line, or separated by commas, I think.  
The format is the same as for aliases. See the aliases man page from Sun. 
When you receive a mail, it is send to each email address specified. If the 
line begins with '|', it is instead piped to the named program.

Here is an example: 3 lines. The first sends a copy of the mail to 
another address, the second processes another copy and the third is a call 
to vacation.

foo@bar.edu
"| ~/bin/procmail -d "
\me, "|/usr/ucb/vacation me"

Once again, look on a Sun (why do they have better man pages :-().

Hope it helps,

Lga.
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Laurent Amon                           | we're doing one about going to see 
       e-mail: amon@cs.stanford.edu    | a wizard. Something about following
           lga@sandman.stanford.edu    | a yellow sick toad. (Moving Pictures)
From: serge@dadofsam (Serge J. Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: re:  Mail.app not reading /usr/spool/mail directory...
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:23:21 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <1992Jul27.213307.351@fnbc.com> lemson@fnbc.com (David Lemson)  
writes:
> In article <1992Jul24.133416.2867@bmw.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff  
> Brunkhorst) writes:
> > I ran into this last week after blindly believing COPS which
> > told me write access to that directory is considered a security risk
> > (It probably is, but...)
> 
> It's not a risk as long as the sticky bit (that final 't' in the  
> permissions on the listing given by ls -lg) is set.  /tmp should be the  
> same way.  (mode 1777 for you octal fans)
> drwxrwxrwt  3 root     wheel        1024 Jul 27 15:56 mail
> --
> David Lemson                                           (312) 732-4741
> FNBC Sys Admin (Summer) UIUC NeXT Campus Consultant(rest of the time)
> E-mail to: lemson@fnbc.com                          NeXTMail accepted
I also ran into the problem of not making /usr/spool/mail world-writeable.   
What bothered me about this is that Mail did not issue any error messages  
anywhere --- not to the console, not to an Alert panel, not to  
/usr/adm/messages, nowhere.  Here is a premiere application that tries to write  
to  a directory, fails, aborts the requested function, and says nothing at all.  
A very poor show.  Also, adding the sticky bit will certainly prevent users  
from removing files (other than theirs) from the directory, but it will not  
prevent users from adding files to the directory ... in essence, what you've  
done is told your users "forget quotas, if you need disk space, just write to  
/usr/spool/mail".
--
Serge J. Goldstein
From: khera@cs.duke.edu (Vivek Khera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Is cron going to get better?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:11:58 GMT
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: oneill@cs.sfu.ca's message of 20 Jul 92 22:14:50 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 3cabf027795c513dde2cfe43309daa5d

In article <1992Jul20.221450.15442@cs.sfu.ca> oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Richard O'Neill) writes:

   I belive that NeXT implemented the standard BSD4.3 cron program, so either
   Sun chose to be different, or it is a SysVism that they've adopted. 
   Personally I have always believed that they re-wrote all the cron type code
   because the 'at' command didn't work in SunOS 3.5.

Sun adopted System V cron for SunOS 4.  the idea is good, but the
implementation leaves much to be desired.  there are problems with
cron not "doing the right thing" at the change to/from daylight
savings time.  there are also reports of cron executing some jobs
multiple times.  it also executes your cron jobs with a shell that
thinks it is interactive;  this causes no end of confusion for people
who have always had something like this in their .cshrc:

if (! $?prompt ) then
  exit
endif

to differentiate between interactive and non-interactive shell executions.

there are other cron implementations out there.  i believe that
someone mentioned Paul Vixie's as a viable alternative.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: Windowserver can't find port when SLIP is up
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:54:41 GMT


It sounds like the SLIP problem you are having is being caused by your
NeXT thinking it is on a "NetInfo Network" and it trying to bind to a
NetInfo master server which it will never find.

louie

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Turning off SCSI devices and Rel 2.1
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:33:20 GMT

brian@umbc4.umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie) writes:

>This is good advice if for no other reason than you may choose to power 
>up a device at the same time then NeXT decides to swap or something and
>who knows how well behaved a device going through power up is.

>Nothing personal, Alan, but is this the kind of answer I can expect from
>NeXT tech support at $225/Question ?

First of all, this was what I would consider a good answer.  You
said so above yourself, "This is good advice."  If anything, they
should 'err' on the side of safety.   Suggesting that all SCSI
devices be powered up and properly terminated is a safe way of doing
things, IMO.

Second, how much did this cost you?  I'm not saying that it should
have, I'm simply pointing out that the new pricing scheme is already
in place, and yet we still have a few NeXT people posting to the
net, helping out for free there.  Don't flame NeXT mercliessly when
they're the least of the evils of workstation support.

Ever call Sun tech support?  Every looked at how much AnswerLine
support costs?  Ever deal with their DAMN tech people on the other
end?   I had one lady who was actually what I could call mean to me.
I won't go into it here (this isn't alt.bash.sun, although I feel
that such a group should be created).
-- 
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.Virginia.EDU (David Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: strange console messages
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:16:07 GMT
Reply-To: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.Virginia.EDU (David Meyer)
Organization: University of Virginia

At boot time, I'm getting some strange error/warning messages on my console,  
such as

	Check-in service NetMessage
	Check-in port 13 for NetMessage
	Registering new service C library lookup
	Registering new port 102 for C library lookup
	Server midi linking /usr/lib/kernloader/Midi/midi_reloc against /mach
	Server midi loading executable "/mach" for linage base file

I get this stuff about the time when /etc/rc is loading biod and ntpd.  Also,  
in /tmp/console.log I get stuff like 

	Jul 30 11:04:28 rincewind mach_init[2]: bootstrap_subset new bootstrap  
839 unpriv 840
	Jul 30 11:04:28 rincewind mach_init[2]: Registered new service  
MailFetch_port
	Jul 30 11:04:28 rincewind mach_init[2]: Registering port 841 for  
service MailFetch_port

None of these things seems to have had horrible consequences, though  
occasionally my machine seems to have trouble associating IP addresses with  
machine names.  For instance, once my machine couldn't find my NNTP server  
based on it's name, but it worked fine when I gave it an IP address.  Another  
time .rhosts wasn't working because my machine couldn't figure out the name of  
the machine I was rlogining in from.  In both cases, /usr/etc/nslookup worked  
fine, so it wasn't the nameserver dying.

I have installed nident and the new finger and fingerd, but both of those  
packages worked fine for several weeks before this mess started.  I also  
recently installed a websterd package, but removing it doesn't fix the  
problem.

Anyone have any idea(s) what the problem(s) might be?

		Dave

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dmm0t@virginia.edu                         University of Virginia
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.Virginia.EDU (NeXTmail)
From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Networking Problem
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:33:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul26.063300.11492
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


Thanks for all your suggestions, folks.  Unfortunately, I'd considered most
possibilities in the two days I was tearing out my hair.  It turned out to 
be a faulty cable.  ARGGHHH.

In any case, everything is A-OK.

In article <1992Jul24.194800.7589@fnbc.com> lemson@fnbc.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.052741.77142@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar  
>Mohammed) writes:
>> 
>> I have the following problem getting a two station netinfo
>> network going:
>> 
>> 2> I then rewire (with the n&c server still on) to get the following  
>configuration
>> and power on the second machine:
>> 
>>         T----C--------------------------C----T
>>              |                          |
>>              |                          |
>>              N                          N
>> 
>>         T:  50 ohm thin ethernet terminator
>>         C:  ethernet "T" connector
>>         N:  NeXT machine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This works fine, but obviously, I shouldn't have to rewire the thing.
>> 
>> I should be able to use the following configuration, boot up the server,
>> then boot up the client:
>> 
>>         T----C--------------------------C----T
>>              |                          |
>>              |                          |
>>              N  (netinfo server)        N (netinfo client)
>> 
>>         T:  50 ohm thin ethernet terminator
>>         C:  ethernet "T" connector
>>         N:  NeXT machine
>> 
>> However, when I turn on the server, I get a "cannot find parent server"  
>message.
>
>These two look the same to me- I must be missing something.
>
>Anyhow, did you wait a while for the server to find itself?  See  
>NextAnswers netinfo.515.
>--
>David Lemson                                           (312) 732-4741
>FNBC Sys Admin (Summer) UIUC NeXT Campus Consultant(rest of the time)
>E-mail to: lemson@fnbc.com                          NeXTMail accepted


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From: christ@park.bu.edu (Christian Mannes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ColorPanel crashes Apps
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:56:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Information Technology, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: christ@park.bu.edu


I have a TurboColor Nextstation running NextStep 2.2, and an
annoying problem: everytime I try to get the color panel (from
any application), the application exits, i.e. crashes without
any messages or alarms. Then, the message

  Bad exit value 1.
  error: NXColorPanel does not recognize selector +allocFromZone:

appears in /tmp/console.log. Does anybody know a way to fix
this?


-- 

Christian Mannes
Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Boston University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Rebuilting the INTERNAL HD with 3.0
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 01:08:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.172118.23824@eecs.nwu.edu> garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary  
I. Chang) writes:
> 	Could someone tell me if I can rebuilt (including low-level  
format)
> my "INTERNAL" 426 Mgs HD from the CD-ROM, such that I get a complete 
> NS 3.0 from inside out. 

I don't think so. I recommend that you boot from a floppy or from a  
NetBoot server in order to do your low-level formatting. Then boot from  
the CD-ROM and install 3.0.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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