From: maillet@tls-cs.cert.fr (Luc Maillet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Responding to the Nick and Jon challenge (Re: challenge to DSY...Was
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:25:38 GMT
Organization: CERT Toulouse Dept of Computer Science, FRANCE

In article <k7TmsB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
|> nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) writes:
|> Staring at Revelation 12, verses 1 and 2 describe Israel.
|> 
|> Quoting verse 3 "Suddenly a red Dragon appeared, with 7 heads, and ten horns,
|>                  and 7 crowns on his heads"
|> 
|>  The 10 horns represent 10 nations that will fuse the Revived Roman Empire,
|> and the 7 Crowns representing 7 nations that were fully willing to go along,
|> and the other 3, reluctant partners.  My counter to your b).  The Dragon,
|> certainly the Son of Perdition will lead an attack on Israel.  A similar
|> description is found in Revelation 13:1-2.

  Ca me rappelle les explications de textes foireuses de mes profs de francais.
Mais j'avoue que la, ca bat des records. Combien de kilometres de cone lui a-t-
il fallu pour atteindre un nirvana intellectuel lui permettant de pondre ca ?

    [...]

|> Rome is the only city that I know of that has 7 hills.
|> 
|> In reference to the 6th now reigns, that was the 1ST Roman Empire.
|> 
|> Final defence, given the above, only nations that were under the Roman Empire
|> will forge this power into being, most likely the EEC after, in all
|> probability, the departure of Denmark and Germany.

  QUOI ? Le danemark, passe encore (quoiqu'ils sont certainement plus pro-euro
peens que les anglais), mais l'allemagne ? La, j'attends des preuves plus soli-
-des que les Revelations d'un pretendu Texte Sacre  (Les Memoires des Saints).

|> 
|> >Now for the main course:
|> >
|> >   What I am against, from a political, national, religious, moral and
|> >   historical point of view is that Maastricht is the key to letting
|> >   the Anti-Christ come to power.
|> >
|> >What a load of old cobblers.
|> 
|>   See above arguments.  I have to intention of repeating an argument made
|> earlier.

  Tu n'as demontre que le point religieux. Il n'a strictement aucune valeur.
Tu peux eventuellement le ressortir a l'eglise, et voir ce que les paroissiens
en feront...

|> >   Politically, historically and nationally, attempts to unite Europe
|> >   have ended in a major botch.
|> >
|> >Hey, lots of people (including Napoleon) wanted to dig a channel
|> >tunnel. Did that stop the current effort succeeding? Analogies with
|> >Napoleon and Hitler are completely bogus, as both _conquered_ Europe
|> >by force of arms. There is no possibility of such an event within the
|> >context of the EC.  Indeed, by unifying Europe economically, the EC
|> >acts _against_ the possibility of such a repetition by binding Germany
|> >and France (and the rest) together: neither can now afford to wage war
|> >against the other.
|> >
|>  On point 1, about conquest, right and wrong!! RIGHT that they did conquer
|> Europe by force, but these dictators used the course of democracy and populism
|> to rise to power, in their own country. Let us remember the wise words of Sir
|> Winston Churchill and remember history.  As for Europe today, the USE or RRE,
|> don't count your chickens before they hatch.  What if this time, inflation
|> skyrockets, unemployment his Depression scale level, all because the full-
|> fledged idea of USE didn't work.  Who will Europe turn to ??

  And what if the construction succeeds, the inflation is contained ( as it is
in both France and Germany ), the economy and industries regain vigor due to
both the European Market (without barriers) and a increased weight and power
on the international scene ? Whatifs are NOT proofs. I can counter any whatif
you make. Objection rejected.

|> 
|> >   Religiously and morally, it is written in the Revelation according
|> >   to John, that Rome is going to be the seat of this Empire.
|> >
|> >No it is not. This claim is nonsense. Put up a serious exegesis to
|> >defend it or shut up. I do hope that nobody out there takes your posts
|> >as representative of real bible study.
|> 
|>   Defended above.  If you want , I could go through the Old Testament with
|> you.

  Pour la derniere fois, virez les references aux Textes Sacres de ce genre de
discussion. Ou alors, citez aussi le Coran, les textes Hindous, Bouddhistes
et Shintoistes, et tous les autres Textes Sacres ayant pu exister.

|> >
|> >   Brussels I do believe will get lose to Rome, thus completing this
|> >   prohecy.
|> >
|> >Translating this sentence into English changes it from syntactic
|> >nonsense to semantic nonsense.
|> 
|>  Read above statement.

  And have a good laugh. Then be serious.

|>   Now we Europeans know why we can't STAND the USA, myself included.
|> With so many Pharisee-like Christians, it is no wonder they are being exposed.
|> I try not to be so pious myself, HOWEVER I will confess to defects.
|> 
|> >
|> >   What scares me my fellow Britons is that we are being blinded by a
|> dangerous
|> >   offer of power that would sacrifice the British identity!!
|> >
|> >No it wouldn't. How would it? Cobblers.
|> >
|> >   Despite the corruption that was the British Empire, Britain would be better
|> >   off going her own trying for a national alliance with the countires that
|> >   retain her majesty as Head of State.

  Personne ne les empeche de le faire. Laissons les anglais quitter la CE et
tenter de ranimer le Commonwealth (ce nom m'a toujours fait rire : common-
wealth. Mais surtout British-wealth). On ne s'en portera pas plus mal. Quant a
eux... Bon, evidemment, c'est dommage pour ceux qui veulent rester dans l'EC.
Ils pourront peut-etre s'installer en europe comme refugies politiques ?


|>      Your in the Name of God, Queen and Country.

  Impressionnant : il parle au nom de trois entites qui ne lui demandent rien.

|> 
|> DSY
|> 
|> Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
|> userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
|> God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
|> Canadians: send a clear message to the government!  ON Oct. 26, Abstain


  Bon, esperons que ce sera la derniere fois...

   When you speak like that, I know it's lunchtime,

							- Z -

  L'ordinateur est fou. L'ordinateur est heureux. L'ordinateur fera tout pour
vous rendre heureux. Cela vous rendra fou.