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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:10:25 -0500
From:         James Nash <ccx020@CCH.COVENTRY.AC.UK>
Subject:      Excel startup... hmmm?

So I used the -p option in Excel 3.0, as in
	g:\excel\excel -p i:\exceldat
from my Windows menu program (Saber). I start Excel, File Open OR
File Save shows me in the correct directory (i:\exceldat). If I
now switch to another drive, say f:, and switch back to i: (all
this in the File Open/Save dialogue box), I am in i:\windows.

So Excel is happy starting in the directory I tell it to but as
soon as I switch to another drive it decides to switch to where
my WIN.INI is!

I suspect the only workaround will be to map (this is Novell, folks)
another drive (j:\) to the EXCELDAT driectory under my home (i:\) so
	g:\excel\excel -p j:\exceldat
or somesuch will work.

I would like to think Microsoft has a bugfix instead. Am I a
drooling optimist?
--
James Nash, Computing Services, Coventry University, England
ccx020@uk.ac.cov.cch
--That's forward slash (bottom left to top right) 'user', spelt u-s-r...
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:05:41 BST
From:         A.S.Booth@DURHAM.AC.UK
Subject:      ET4000 drivers recently put on CICA

Do these drivers supercede the Orchid ProDes IIs v1.5 drivers?

Will they allow us IIs users to run a E/VGA DOS app in a window?

Andy Booth
Durham UK
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From: IANR009@UNLVM.UNL.EDU
Subject: ATI Crystal Fonts and Graphics Drivers for 3.1
Organization: University of Nebraska
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:42:37 CST

Can anyone tell me where I can get the ATI drivers for windows 3.1 for
the graphics ultra and crystal fonts on the net?  The ultra drivers
have been available for some time but the crystal fonts drivers were
just released (to my knowledge).  If someone could put them on the net
or let me know where they are, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks...


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From: loescher@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stephan Loescher)
Subject: TSeng ET4000 - Thanks for answers!
Originator: loescher@hphalle2c.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:01:15 GMT


Manny thanks to all who answered!

S.L.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:00:38 -0700
From:         ANDERSOS@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU
Subject:      Re: 5.25" on a PS/2

>    I have a model 70 which has an external 5.25" drive. There is no room for
> aninternal one on the PS/2's.  The user wants the 5.25" as a drive B, but when
> the driver is loaded for the drive in the config.sys it assigns the next
> logical
>drive which is D.  Anyone have any ideas?


Is using the subst command too obvious or too inelegant?


Stan Anderson
The Claremont Graduate School
Institute for Antiquity and Christianity
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Subject: Re: Amiga Bashing(?)
From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:11:13 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <WIN3-L%92072416120799@UICVM.BITNET>, CHEESE B-} <CHEESE%ETDAI2.decnet@ETD88A.MDC.COM> writes:
> *----- Text of attached message -----*
> We don't need to get into the Amiga's...They are internally timed for
> video production and do not have the business software support
> necessary to be considered an engine.... Yes they do brilliant video
> work, as PCs are not internally timed correctly for video, but they
> are terrible business machines....
> 
> Sarah Bush
> Consultant, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
> *----- Text of attached message -----*

	Sarah, you have just shown your lack of knowledge for this machine.
You have been the victim of bad marketing on the part of commodore.
 This perception is unfourtunate. The Amiga is a much superior machine than
 IBMs. (Though this is not the place for this discussion, I don't think.)
 This DOES NOT mean that IBM's are bad, just different. Amiga has the chips
 (motorola) and the others angus, denise etc.. that make it simply a
 better machine. However, others are catching up. If ya pickup any recent issue
of AMIGA WORLD you will see the gripes about Amiga's  strategies. Sure it's 
internal design make it the top choice for sound and graphics, but
unfourtunately your attitude is just what Amiga is fighting against. Not your
fault, it's theirs. They have had chances to change this perception. 
	You have an excellent point that they don't have the business software 
support to be considered an 'engine', this is a far far cry from it being 
potentially a poor business machine. Considering it's internal capabilities,
it would be execellent. But Amiga has marketed themselves into a corner,
in most peoples' opinon to being a specialized machine. This will be hard
to get out of, considering they have blown some opportunities. I have an Amiga
but got a 486/33 cause (just as you correctly said) they don't have the 
software support that I need. If I were into digitizing, out of this world
animations, sound, etc. I would have stuck with it. I am not.
	Hopefully someday all platforms will be compatable, if and when
that day comes, I will check out the Amiga again. Besides Amiga like Macs
are pricey. Some would say, you have more to pay for.

	Who knows when that day comes, there will be more powerful machines
out there. Heck, I am kinda excited bout this parallel processing, pC-5
risk based stuff.  Technology is always changin.............
Eric Dowdy
University of Missouri
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:37:40 EDT
From:         "Kris Beatty" <krisb@WESTFORD.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      Re: C/C++/Windows Internals Training
              23 Jul 92 11:14:00 -0500.
              <9207231318.aa28962@masscomp.westford.ccur.com>

> Greetings!

> Well, it looks like I will soon be embarking on a Windows programming project
,
> and will require some training.  I will be using MS C/C++ 7.0 and I have no
> experience with C or Windows internals.  Does anyone out there have any
> recommendations of or experience with companies that offer classes or trainin
g
> in these areas?  I am in central Arkansas and would prefer not to travel too
> far if possible, so training in surrounding states like Texas or Tennessee
> would be preferable.  However, any information or recommendations would be
> helpful.  Thanks!

> .......
> :  o/ : Bruce Hulsey
> : <|  : Univ. of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
> : / > : internet: bbhulsey@life.uams.edu
> :.....: bitnet:   bbhulsey@uams

Bruce,
	I agree with Vance it takes a lot of practice to become a good
C programmer and even more time to be a good C++ programmer.  When
dealing with any Object Orientated Language, I have found the following
book to be a good reference when doing OOP programming.

	 Introduction to Object Oriented Programming
	 By Timoth Budd
	 From Addison Wesley

You may want to look at all the available tool boxes that are on the
market for C++ environment.  This will reduce the time of developement
extremely.

HTH,
Kris Beatty
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:25:08 +0800
From:         PostSales-Dean Tan <dtan@SG.ORACLE.COM>
Subject:      Mail-server

Can someone please tell met the mail-server id for simtel20?
or wuarchive's, cica's ? Or any other mail-archive. Thanks.

Any other ftp-mail-server other then the one at ftpmail@decwel?

Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:09:37 CDT
From:         Moore <moore@EMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Amiga Bashing(?) on the Win list
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              92 8:50 am

>
> Amiga has never run 'Windows x.x' and will never need to. Amiga's Workbench is
> as far ahead of Windows in system/software integration as is GEOS/GeoWorks,
> Macintosh, etc.  That Micro$$$oft is attempting to paint the world into a
> Windows corner is no excuse for not mentioning other things in contrast on
> occasion.
>

You, like many of the posters to this group, miss the point of the original
writer's sarcasm: this distribution is meant for Windows discussions only.
This past week there have been numerous ridiculous posts about Amigas, about
stupid "do you remember THIS programming language?" queries, about anything BUT
Windows stuff. Post to the appropriate place or don't post at all.

This kind of crap is probably the chief reason why most subscribers to this
group "lurk" instead of openly participating. Pardon to the rest of the group,
but this needs to be said. Flame to /dev/null.

--
Jim (moore@email.ncsc.navy.mil)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:43:00 CDT
From:         SJBUSH@UAMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Problem with Windows and Novell

If for some reason setting the card to C800 doesn't work try D800 also
That seems to be the best one to use with a Western Digital card and
Windows, in MOST (not all) cases this will fix any problems that
Novell and Windows are having working together..........
Just a thought

Sarah Bush
Consultant, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:31:00 CST
From:         Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Apple Imagewriter support
              21 Jul 1992 07:38:06 EDT from <wjanis@BIOSTATS.HMC.PSU.EDU>

I've been told that the C-Itoh driver will work with the connection
set to LPT1.OS2 or LPT2.OS2 but I haven't tried it.

Gaynor Kybett                                   kybett@max.cc.uregina.ca
University of Regina, REGINA, Saskatchewan, Canada
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From: moar@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Christoph Moar)
Subject: Re: TRIDENT T8900 - Driver for Win 3.0 / 3.1
Keywords: Graphic card, driver
Originator: moar@hphalle6a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:52:08 GMT


Hi folks!

Well, I didn't believe it would go as fast as that... after a couple hours
past my yesterday posting I already got as much as 20 mails of you guys
offering me the drivers... shortly, I'd just like to thank you all.. 
especially
Kreuels (who mailed me the UUENCODED drivers)
and to  Richard Franz, Jim Nelson, Jeffrey R Kell, Pat Hayes, Eric Dowen, Kreuels
Chee Woo Leong, Robert Fuhge and many others...

thanx

(Christoph Moar)
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:33:00 EST
From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Anyone out there with WordStar for Win
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Is there anyone out there in Win land who has WordStar for Windows?!?

I recently edited some documents with WordStar for Win, couldn't stand
it, packed up the software and sent it back.  I have one or two documents
that I REALLY need back.  I forgot to convert the files to text. :-(

Anyone still have WS4Win?  Or does anyone know where I can find a file
converter for W4W 2.0a to convert WS4Win to another format?

ANY help is greatly appreciated!  I hate WS4Win more than anything right now!

Joe Morris, undergraduate & Assoc. Data Analyst in Raleigh, NC
Western Carolina Univerity                               Practice safe hex,
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From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Windows and EMS
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 09:25:14 -0600
From: PHIL%MASH.COLORADO.EDU@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu

> Would it help to use the smartdrv that comes with Windows 3.1?  I've read in
> this forum that it supercedes the DOS 5.0 smartdrv.

The version of Smart Drive that comes with Win 3.1 does supercede the version
that came with DOS.  You should use the new one.  The new version has a few
more features.  The old version will work okay too.

Joe Morris, undergraduate & Assoc. Data Analyst in Raleigh, NC
Western Carolina Univerity                               Practice safe hex,
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From:         KARGRA@GBA930.ZAMG.AC.AT
Subject:      Reply to Printing EXCEL 4.0 spreadsheets on HP LJ II
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Why not print them to a file and get the real papers out during the night ?
HTH, ALfred
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:11:51 CDT
From:         "Chet Farmer, Asst. Dir., Project IDEALS" <CFARMER1@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lotus Organizer
              22 Jul 1992 20:53:22 GMT from <mfprf@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU>

On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:53:22 GMT Paul R. Falzer said:
>I'm still interested in getting information, but at this point I'm not sure
>whether the organizer is more like an electronic Day Timer or more like
>Packrat.  Apparently, it's not a Windows version of Agenda.

That's a shame -- Agenda is one of the finest programs I've ever seen; I
use it every day.  I'd love to see a windows version, but I don't see Lotus
spending the time or the money.  Agenda owners are apparantly a rare breed.
As I understand it, the product basically went over lots of peoples' heads.

-c


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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:37:24 EDT
From:         Jeff Cohen <JC924@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Microsoft DBMS product

Does anyone know anything about the progress and possible arrival time of
a Microsoft Windows DBMS product?  We are very anxious to begin developing
some database applications in Windows.  I know that Paradox for Windows is
coming out, but this place is highly committed to Microsoft products.
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From:         "Jan Q. Janssens" <jqjansse@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: DOSMGR Message and Windows 3.1
              9

Mike Martin writes:
>
>  I received the following dialog message:
>
>    Application Stopped by DOSMGR ...
>
>  The description said to close all applications, close windows and restart
>  the PC. I looked into Window's documentation and could not find the message
>  described. I also called Microsoft Window's support and only received the
>  statement that the message related to DOS translation????
>
>  Does anyone have addition information about this message and/or DOSMGR?
>
>  The error occurred invoking DOS to start CC:Mail session. This was a Monday
>  and I had left the system up all weekend. In all possibility, the Novell
>  server was restarted during this period. When this would happen with
>  Windows 3.0, I would receive a message that the application had violated
>  system security and to close all applications, close windows and restart
>  the PC.
>

If the server was really "downed" during the weekend, then all references
to it will have been lost (for NetWare 2.15c at least) by the NetWare DOS
shells running on your PC.  Any application that was running (including
Windows and cc:Mail in a DOS window) and that needs to access a network
drive won't be able to reach those drives.  Rebooting your PC will enable
you to login again after having established a valid (new) connection.

Jan.

--

Jan Q. Janssens

Brussels Free University (V.U.B.)            Tel.: + 32 2 3590289 (voice)
Sciences Faculty                                   + 32 2 3590399 (fax)
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:29:26 PDT
From:         "Vance M. Gloster" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Problem with Windows and Novell
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

We bought a group of new 486 machines with modern video cards and are
now having problems running Windows in super VGA modes when Novell is
installed.  The odd thing is that it does not seem to depend on the
hardware.

We have both IsoLAN and Western Digital Ethernet cards, and
both Stealth VRAM and Video7 video cards, and two different
motherboard manufacturers.  Using any combination of the above
hardware, when you run Windows in 1024x768 or 1280x960 modes the
signal is scrambled if previously the Novell software was installed.
If you start Windows with Novell not installed, everything is fine.
If you start Windows with Novell installed but with Windows using the
standard VGA driver, everything is fine.

We are using the latest version of Novell client software, and have
tried both IPX and ODS drivers.  We have tried both the Diamond
Stealth video drivers and the Microsoft S3 drivers on the Stealth
(both Windows 3.1 versions).  We are using NEC 5FG monitors.  We are
running DOS 5, and have tried commenting out the DOS HIGH line.  We
have also tried excluding A000-EFFF in the SYSTEM.INI.

This is a tough one, and we would be eternally grateful for any advise
you could provide.  Thanks!

-Vance Gloster
 gloster@inference.com
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:59:00 PDT
From:         Will Harmon <WHARMON@OREGON.BITNET>
Subject:      Getting a Handle on WIN.INI

So, in that I read a good deal of sage advice on how to handle WIN.INI are
there books that discuss it?  I see nothing in the Windows manual.  "WININI.
TXT" seems to describe it, but is that all there is?

Thanks

Will
From: jahb@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JENNIFER A. HEISE)
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Subject: Windows 3.1 Communications question
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:56:32 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

HELP!
I had 2 communications programs running under Windows 3.0 (Non-windows
programs).  When I installed Windows 3.1, both of them still worked, but they
wouldn't connect anymore. If it matters, I'm running communications out of the
com2 port on a Async Data Box (no modem); the programs are Lexis/Nexis
communications software & a homegrown (local computer center) variation on
Kermit. No help from computer center, Gateway (my Windows 3.1 is a license
from them), etc. Any ideas?


-- 
Jennifer Heise                           Net: jahb@lehigh.edu
Reference Dept.,                         Phone: (215) 758-3072
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:13:16 MST
From:         Dirk Brewer <BREWER@MC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Visual Basic forum wanted

>Dear reader,
>Do you know if any forums exist with Visual Basic as topic.
>
>Thanks Chips

This information might be useful for some people on this list...

>>VISBAS-L on LISTSERV@TAMVM1.BITNET   Visual Basic Discussion List
>>
>>   Title describes it all.  A list to discuss the Visual Basic software
>>   for PCs.
>>
>>   To subscribe send a message or e-mail to LISTSERV@TAMVM1.BITNET
>>   with the following in the BODY:
>>
>>       SUB VISBAS-L yourfirstname yourlastname
>>
>>   Owner:  Chris Barnes  <x005cb@tamvm1.tamu.edu>

The list is new, so kinda slow. But any questions will try to be
answered.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:07:00 CDT
From:         SJBUSH@UAMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: DOSMGR Message and Windows 3.1

Yes, I do beleive that you are correct I did the same thing one night
and I'm pretty sure that the message you saw was the same one that I
received...........It is also true that Windows is extremely
sensitive to any connection changes after startup---maybe Microsoft
or some other company can fix this for us--But, just for reference,
we use Netware tools for windows that allows us to a great many Novell
functions without having to exit to a dos prompt or a dos app--
unfortunately it won't solve a connection problem once the link has
been broken but it will offer you a lot more flexibility in your work.
I do not remember from where it was downloaded, but maybe someone else
out there might remember!!!!!!!!!?????????????

Sarah Bush
Consultant, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:02:00 CST
From:         "LIU, CHENGWEN" <STU023@TWNCU865.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Help: File in Win3

Dear Sir :

 Please do not mail me, thank you.