HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: NHL preseason
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:45:57 GMT

>I don't know about all of you out there, but has anybody watched an exhibition
>game this season?  I got an opportunity to watch my first one tonight and it
>was a game between the Penguins and Red Wings -- well, it was like every :30
>seconds - penalty coming up against the Red Wings.  Detroit got a penalty 13
>seconds into the game!!!!  Penalty coming up against the Penguins...it was so
>boring!!!!  If this is the way hockey is going to be this season, the Penguins

Well, you see, a lot of people said we should make hockey more like
basketball, since basketball was doing well on TV and hockey wasn't.
So, of course, what the NHL chose to copy was basketball's habit of
spending most of the game time on foul calls :-).  Seriously, though,
I think that after the first month or two of the regular season, the
new rules should work themselves out.  Besides, wasn't the
high-sticking rule an experimental rule for the pre-season only, or am
I misremembering?
	-Steve
From: am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens Roster moves/Gang coaching?
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:43:03 GMT
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Lori Iannamico writes:

>It is rumored that the Pens will be coached by all the assistant coaches,
>with each coach playing a specific role.  Goaltending coach Gilles Meloche
>is also expected to take part.  GM Craig Patrick will also have input.
> 
>Does anyone know of anything like this being done before?  It seems really odd
>to me.

Yes.  During the Pierre Creamer/Gene Ubriaco years, the Penguins had a
coaching staff of 20.

You might also remember that they had a long-distance coach (Rick Ley).

Mom.
From: RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: First Female in Hockey
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:10:29 GMT
 <1992Sep25.230837.24998@leland.Stanford.EDU>
 <92269.231022RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <1a31irINNbcd@girtab.usc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

In regard to your response David, if you can LOGICALLY prove that my statements
 were wrong on the net, than I encourage a response so we can debate about it
 but don't ever say something that I didn't say - that me and the Pittsburgh
fans are glad that Gretzky is hurt.  That is totally illogical and an insane
remark.  Now, all the net knows that you're the one who is embarrassing
yourself in front of the world.
                               -Rob
                     GO PENGUINS - DID IT!  DID IT!  DO IT AGAIN!!!
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Manon not drafted, right?
Date: 27 Sep 1992 01:25:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Manon hasn't been drafted.  So, she can't play for the lightning on the
NHL level.  However, they could sign her to an ihl contract, but they
still dcouldn't bring her up to play on the NHL level, right?

So, next year, she could be drafted by another team.
-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
From: shayne@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia MANCINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: CBC. What's up with that?
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:59:25 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Oct5.153850.7136@cs.rochester.edu> ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson) writes:
>
>It strikes me as kinda sad that CBC isn't showing any games on opening
>day. It's even sadder because ESPN is. What kind of national network
>doesn't cover the opening game of the national pastime? I guess the
>resident Canadians may finally understand what we're talking about
>when they have to go find bars that will show hockey off the
>satellite! At least they won't be competing with college football and
>those godawful sprint cars...

Not likely. I cannot speak for any other city, but here in Montreal we
have 3 TV Stations that broadcast games, and I'm pretty sure at least one
of them will have it. If not there's always radio.


-- Lydia
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Subject: Re: First Female in Hockey
Reply-To: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:51:33 GMT

In article <92272.153326RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>, RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

|>to write dumb articles on the net.  So therefore, the next time you read a
|>stupid article, consider the source before complaining about it.  If it's
|>somebody who's been on here a zillion times, they probably know their hockey.

I'm sure you will find many people here who disagree with THAT statement. 
There are many people who post here quite frequently who obviously don't 
have a clue.

|> If it's a stranger, let them establish their credibility.  

Like yourself, for example...
 
|>If they don't
|>establish their credibility, then just ignore the letter.  They probably
|>won't write anything again.  

Maybe I should have heeded this instead of responding.



-lisa
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ESPN Schedule for Oct.-Dec.
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:27:32 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Distribution: na
Organization: The Bates Motel

popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich) writes:
>Hmmm.  Think ESPN favors the Patrick division a bit?
>
>Fri. 10/30-New York Islanders at New Jersey (Toronto at Detroit) 

Hey, it just dawned on me ...

NO -- Rangers-Islanders or Rangers-Devils games ...

NO -- Oilers-Flames or Canadiens-Nordiques games ...

Well, there's the second half of the season, yet ...

gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare				
> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			(Let's worry about the economy!)
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: BOSTON NEWS: Waiver Draft
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:24:31 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Apparently, the Bruins selected Troy Gamble (G) from the Vancouver Canucks;
however, the selection was voided after it was realized that the Canucks
already had Igor Larionov selected in a previous round.

Does anyone know why this happened? Did Sinden try to pull a fast one just to
liven up the waiver draft?
From: arsenaul@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Arsenault Michel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Strat-O-Matic Hockey
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:57:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Universite de Montreal


                    MONTREAL STRAT-O-MATIC HOCKEY LEAGUE
                          FINAL STANDINGS 1991-92
       (Based on the 1990-91 NHL statistics-so San Jose not in there)
                     (Graciously formatted by Steven Dufour)

                       PRINCE-OF-WALES CONFERENCE

                             ADAMS DIVISION

              GP   W   L   D   GF   GA   PTS   OA   10 LAST   SEQ
			
Boston        56  32  19   5  169  148    69    5    5-4-1     L1
Montreal      56  29  21   6  166  150    64    7    7-2-1     W1
Buffalo       56  23  26   7  151  144    53   14    4-5-1     W2
Hartford      56  19  30   7  134  166    45   15    5-5-0     W2
Quebec        56  12  41   3  128  214    27   21    1-9-0     L6


                            PATRICK DIVISION

              GP   W   L   D   GF   GA   PTS   OA   10 LAST   SEQ

Pittsburgh    56  33  19   4  190  155    70    4    4-4-2     W2
Rangers       56  31  18   7  188  134    69    6    5-2-3     L1
Philadelphia  56  27  22   7  153  148    61    9    4-4-2     L3
New Jersey    56  25  26   5  156  156    55   11    5-5-0     W2
Islanders     56  25  26   5  147  149    55   12    5-4-1     L2
Washington    56  19  32   5  129  186    43   19    5-4-1     W1


                           CAMPBELL CONFERENCE

                             NORRIS DIVISION

              GP   W   L   D   GF   GA   PTS   OA   10 LAST   SEQ

Chicago	      56  33  19   4  163  122    70    3    6-3-1     L1
St.Louis      56  26  22   8  180  140    60   10    5-3-2     W3
Detroit       56  25  28   3  168  183    53   13    5-3-2     W2
Minnesota     56  21  33   2  138  170    44   16    4-6-0     W1
Toronto       56  18  30   8  112  170    44   18    3-7-0     L4

                             SMYTHE DIVISION

              GP   W   L   D   GF   GA   PTS   OA   10 LAST   SEQ

Edmonton      56  38  15   3  182  115    79    1    9-1-0     L1
Los Angeles   56  35  18   3  208  161    73    2    5-5-0     W1
Winnipeg      56  27  21   8  157  145    62    8    5-4-1     L1
Calgary       56  18  30   8  160  180    44    17   2-7-1     W1
Vancouver     56  17  37   2  157  200    36    20   2-8-0     W1



P.S.:  Sorry for Caps' fans but I was Washington this
         season and have not been able to do anything good...

				
			Michel Arsenault
			arsenaul@ere.umontreal.ca
From: RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Must be fun being a Bruins fan!!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:12:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92276.151235RAP115
 <Sep.11.00.38.06.1992.16015@remus.rutgers.edu>
 <1992Sep11.110810.1033@dragon.acadiau.ca>
 <1992Sep14.183632.17172@cc.umontreal.ca> <5330@balrog.ctron.com>
 <RICH.92Oct2105358@quik.clearpoint.com>
Organization: Penn State University

Yes, SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP - PENS 4, Bruins 0!!!!!!!!!!!!
-The Badger.
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Berthiaume
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:30:21 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Oct4.012219.28710@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umoster0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sean K. Ostermann) writes:
>Mr. Berthiaume is now, again, a member of the Winnipeg Jets (well at least the
>farm team).  Apparently his contract has been terminated.  Daryl Turner, maybe
>you can help us out being the internal contact with the Jets.

Berthiaume was released by the Jets after being the exposed goalie in the
expansion draft.

(I'm not any kind of 'internal' contact...I get my info the same way everyone
else does, by reading the paper, and listening to the radio.)
>

Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca -or- daryl.turner@mailbox.bison.mb.ca 
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4  (please route through 348/700)
Ulanov up to Davydov, over to Zhamnov, he shoots, he scores! 
The Jets win the Cup!  The Jets win the Cup!
Essensa for Vezina!  Housley for Norris!  Selanne for Calder!
From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: JETS News: Two trades, three wins in a row
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:42:44 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) writes:

>In article <1992Oct3.211124.10489@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct3.182010.19899@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Is Zhamnov playing center?  and how happy or unhappy is he?
>>>
>>>Alexei has been centering a line with Selanne and Tkachuk on the wings.
>>>As the team has been on the road since Tuesday, and he only joined them
>>>Wednesday in Edmonton, I guess he's happy to be playing, though as far as
>>>I know, he's still suing the team.
>>
>>Has the line got a name yet...? 

>Not yet.  Paddock is not into 'set lines' as much as other coaches.  So it's
>not a guarantee that they'll always play together.

Hmmm, how about the 'Rookie Line'?  The 'UN Line' (all 3 from
different countries)?  The 'Foreigner Line'?  (all 3 non-Canadian).
The 'Olympic Line'?  (they did all play in the Olympics didn't they?
if so, maybe the 'Albertville Line')  Possibilities, Possibilities.  

>>Being an Oiler fan...I have a bad feeling about this!   

I always like things that give Oiler fans bad feelings.  :-) 

>You should.  As a Jets fan, these three guys remind me of the ol' WHA days,
>with Hedberg, Nilsson and Hull.  (They haven't proven that they deserve that
>high of praise, but they do have that potential.)
>>
>>Gerald
>>

>Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 

Hedberg-Nilsson-Hull?  Cool!  

=================== 
Evan Pritchard ---- Waiting for the hockey season to begin  

epritcha@psych.uiuc.edu  [alternatively  EVAN33@uiucvmd.bitnet ]
From: htakeda@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: SEGA hockey
Date: 3 Oct 92 05:38:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: Bonnie.9210022238.aa02109

Is there any distinctions with the rinks?  As in a lot of the
baseball games do (Boston's Green Monster, Waterfall at KC,
Two tier bleachers at Detroit, etc.) which add a little bit of
authenticity to the game, I was wondering if the new SEGA game
let's you pick where you play.  Does Chicago's noise level come
into play, Boston Garden's small rink (maybe even the fog???
nahhh it can't be that real...can it?), or maybe it just has
the rink patterns?  THanks
===============================================================
htakeda@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

HIRO "The HAB" Takeda
GO Montreal Canadiens, Kokudo Keikaku Bunnies, Taiyo Whales,
Montreal Expos, and the Dallas Cowboys.
UC Irvine, Electrical and Comp. Engin., Info. and Comp. Science.
"What good is a used up world and how can it be worth having?"
ALL THIS TIME - STING
===============================================================
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:03:13 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: It's on KBL (was Re: ESPN Schedule for Oct.-Dec.)
Distribution: na
 <BvEMqz.2yD.1@cs.cmu.edu> <1992Sep30.210536.19332@adobe.com>

  This ESPN blackout restriction for the Penguins-Flyers game is stupid.
It should be like football.  If the game's a sellout, then it should be
televised.  Pittsburgh fans have no worry though.  The home opener and many
home games are televised because the home attendance is quite frequently
"16,164 - a sellout.  That's 16,164 - a sellout.  The Penguins and Flyers
thank you for attending." to quote a famous voice!!!!  See ya at the game!!!
                                                     -Rob
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
             GO PENGUINS!!!!  DID IT!  DID IT!  DO IT AGAIN!!!!!
             "There's A New Face In The Building"
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    P.S. I'm happy for Lemieux, but his new contract is going to hurt us, the
 fans the most.  Expect Bladwin to raise tickets another $10.00 next year.
 No need for a bank account anymore!!!!!!
From: tiok_jtk@tac.fi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Who is Selanne
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:24:40 +0300
Distribution: world
Organization: Finnish Ice-Hockey League

In article <maube.3@emr.ca>, maube@emr.ca (Martin Aub (CPB)) writes:
> I'd like to get some info on this guy
> 
> Where did he play?  What are his stats like

Teemu Sel{nne is the next great Finnish ice hockey player in NHL (I expect
so), like Jari Kurri in LA Kings has been. Teemu Sel{nne played last three
years in Finnish Ice Hockey League ("SM-liiga"), in Jokerit, Helsinki.
 In 1989-90 he got his leg
broken and his season was quite poor, he made in 11 matches 4+8=12 points (0
minutes penalties). 
But in 1990-91 he made a breakthrough by making in 42 matches 33+25=58 points
(12 minutes penalties) and in 1991-1992 he made 44 matches 39+23=62 points
(20 minutes penalties) and in play offs he made 10+7=17 points in 10 matches
(18 minutes penalties)...and Jokerit was the Finnish Chmapion 1992.
Few years ago the Jets drafted Teemu and in this summer, a couple more NHL-
teams were interested in Teemu. Calgary almost got him in team, but in the 
last moment the Jets made a bigger offer and a lot better contract and then
Teemu decided to play for the Jets (he got about 1.5 million canadian dollars
for signaturing the contract!!) and his first NHL-season wage will be about
400000 dollars. 
Teemu is very good skater (fast and he has very good acceleration!!) and he
can shoot well in full  speed. He also doesn't like t go into the fistfights, 
he is ratherly gentleman player. For these reasons it is said that he will
be the another Jari Kurri, but better one.
I'm a great Teemu Sel{nne fan and I read everything about him in the newspapers
and internet. I hope he will get in shape soon and make a lots of points in
NHL.

   Jonne Siren / FIHL


-- 
-
SM-LIIGA tulospalvelu / Finnish Ice-Hockey League Results Service
"Living isn't necessary; icehockey is..."
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: ESPN Hockey
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:33:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HMS

Bill Clement became STUDIO analyst yesterday(Monday,10/5) and just in
time for Flyers-Penguins opener at 7:30 tonight.

Some changes in ESPN's 1992-93 coverage include 10-minute pre-games
and fewer but longer sponsor breaks - four(4) 70-second stoppages per
period instead of seven(7) 30-second spots.

-PPV Mark
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 08:08:56 -0400 
From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ESPN vs. SCA


On 30-Sep-92 in ESPN vs. SCA                 
user Pavel Nikiforovitch@UMSL writes:
>I can't understand, folks, why all of you are so crazy about ESPN. Last year,
>I could watch a lot on SCA, and those who didn't have SCA could go to sports
>bar and watch a lot of hochey, too. Now we all will get miserable 1-2
games per
>week from those ESPN idiots, who, unlike SCA, don't seem to respect hockey at
>all.
> 
>Down with ESPN ! Long live SCA !

I have mixed feelings on this.

As one of the "handful" of Americans who gets SportsChannel, I'll be seeing
less televised games this season than last season.  Last year, I could easily
watch 3-4-5 games a week on SCA, and that doesn't include all the SCA games
I missed by being a Pens season ticket holder.

However, since well over 50% of Americans get ESPN, and since many Americans
in hockey hotbeds and hockey cities could not get SCA, I'm glad that the NHL
is back with ESPN.

So, for me, I'm happy for the greater exposure, but will miss those extra
games (but I won't miss Jiggs & Eddie).

====================================================================
    Jim Murawski
    Sr. Data Base Analyst               (412) 268-2650  [office]
    Administrative Systems              (412) 268-6868  [fax]
    Carnegie Mellon University          jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu
    4910 Forbes Avenue                  Office: UCC 155
    Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Pens News 10/1
Keywords: Errey out, 18 cuts, Ulf back
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:52:39 GMT

Pens winger Bob Errey suffered a sprained left ankle in the Pens-Whalers
game Tuesday night.  He is expected to be out 4 weeks.

And thanks to Kevin Slate, who informed me that Ulf is indeed back in the
lineup.

----------------------------------------

The Pens have assigned 18 players to Cleveland.  Among those sent down:
Ken Priestlay, Jamie Heward, Todd Nelson.  I hope to have a complete list
tomorrow.

Lori
Contact for the Penguins
lli+@cs.cmu.edu
From: gn@mdavcr.mda.ca (Greg Niven)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Want video from 1987 Canada Cup
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:20:06 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

I was interested in getting a copy of the videos from the 1987 Canada Cup
series (the final 3 games with the Soviets).  I rememebered them being
advertised in The Hockey News, but they no longer are (at least they
weren't this past week).  Any idea as to where I can get them from?
I know that there was an official release of them -- was it from the
NHLPA or what?

Thanks for the help,

Greg Niven

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: First Female in Hockey
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:21:59 GMT

In article 24998@leland.Stanford.EDU, claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.175342.7033@dragon.acadiau.ca> 890491g@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Graves) writes:
>
>>	Probably because this doesn't happen very often, if at all.
>>Has it happened in the NHL?  I can't think of such a case...
>			      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>BRETT HULL???  MARK HOWE???  Maybe KEN HODGE Jr???
>
>Because it happens all the time but the players, since they aren't that good,
>never make it.  One example would be the Sharks drafting Chuck Grillo's son
>(whose name I forgot).

I forget his name too, but I believe he's on the Sharks' scouting staff now.

---
Richard Stueven        gak@wrs.com         attmail!gakhaus!gak        107/H/3&4
          To sight it must ring clear as a bell, it must snap
          in the ear, feel pleasantly sticky between the fingers,
          smell fresh and tempting and taste heavenly.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: gretzky/hart/ross
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 22:15:56 GMT

In article <92276.151533RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>can do.  And I certainly haven't given Lemieux the ross/hart trophies.  All I
>said is that if Gretzky misses the entire season, he can't win those awards,
>it's true..that's a fact...why are all you buttheads trying to attack this

Hmmm.  I don't think that is what you wrote in your original article.  If
he misses the *entire* season, he certainly can't win those awards, but you
said that if he misses *part* of the season, he can't win those awards, which
is certainly absurd.

>fact?  Is it because you think Gretzky is God, and you just can't stand to see
>your idol out for an extended period of time?  I don't know for sure, you
>haven't come out and said it, but it sure seems like it to me.

But that is not the problem.  You can say that you don't think that Gretzky
will not win the awards, but you came out *attacking* me ("think before you
write") for something that I wrote.  I certainly wouldn't bet on Gretzky
winning the Ross and Hart trophies, but that is nothing to be flamed about.
Instead, you came out with a very obnoxious message.

>    My point - if you don't know a damn thing about me, which obviously you
>don't, then don't complain about what I write.  I'm myself - not every Penguins

I don't know enough about you.  All I know is that you wrote a very obnoxious
message.

> fan or every Penn State student.  I'm entitled to my opinions.  If I think
>that Larry Murphy is the third best defenseman in the NHL, that's my opinion,
>I'm entitled today.  If I think that Lemieux is the best player in the game
>today, followed by Messier, Gretzky, and Hull, that's my OPINION - I'm

*You* are entitled to that opinion.  So am I.  So why did you come out
implying that I am an idiot for having "Gretzky for Ross and Hart" in my
*.sig*, of all places?

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Wayne Gretzky for Ross and Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Dean Evason for Selke!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Norris!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks