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Subject:      Re: Advance tape to OCLC
              92 9:57 pm

On 9/28/92 Matt Goldner said:

>
> We are currently involved with a test tape at OCLC, so I have to wait for the
> results on that.  However, since we have a distributive system, we have used
> the 852 to take holdings both directions repeatedly with no problems.
>
> Matt Goldner
> Coastal Plain Regional Library
> Tifton, Georgia
> mgoldne%uscn.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu
>
Matt - my question is:  are you doing this for the UNION LISTING module
and/or SERIALS module (in OCLC and Geac, respectively)?  If so, I am
very interested in the details.

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REMEMBER!!!   It's Still Not Too Late!  REGISTRATION DEADLINE IS APPROACHING!!!
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The Library Paraprofessional Development Group of the University of Florida are
holding their First Annual Paraprofessional Development Conference, February
20-21, 1993 at the Holiday Inn - University Center in Gainesville, Florida and
wants to welcome all interested paraprofessionals.

              REGISTRATION DEADLINE IS POSTMARK OF NOVEMBER 4, 1992

The registration fee of $90 includes:  Conference introductory kit, breakfast
and lunch buffets Saturday and Sunday, banquet Saturday, attendance at all
lectures and panel discussions and two roundtables (from a choice of twelve,
including all aspects of library work -- circulation, reference, cataloging,
acquisitions, interlibrary loan, reserve, children's services, adult services,
documents, periodicals/serials, administrative services, and preservation).

The Conference is designed to include information on all types of libraries
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Seeking NOMINATIONS for 1992 (Esther J.) PIERCY AWARD

Piercy Award:  To librarian with fewer than ten years experince
for contributions and leadership in the field of library
collections and technical services (acquistions, cataloging;
serials).  Nominations and letters of endorsement should be sent
to the chair of the award jury no later than NOVEMBER 15, 1992.

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              92 11:03 am

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From: turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU (Mitch Turitz)
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>
> Mitch,
>
> After I read different replies, I realized union listing is what was needed
> and not just monographic tape loads.  We have added our serials holdings
> direct to OCLC and are only tape loading monographs.  I realize this is of
> no help with the current issue.  However, several of these issues were
> raised at the focus group in Dallas, though that centered more on loading
> publication patterns from another system to a local Advance system.  I think
> these issues need to be funneled into that group as it develops and into this
> fall's enhancement process.  Sorry for the false alarm on relevant info.
>
>
> Matt Goldner
> mgoldne%uscn.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu
>
Matt - thanks for the reply.  I am posting this on the list so that
others interested in union listing can see it.  Please keep me posted of
the issue of union listing as it is discussed with the focus group(s).

p.s.  We don't get any kind of Advance newsletter sent here.  Is there
one being done anymore?  Marjorie isn't here anymore so maybe she was
the one being sent the newsletters?

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Subject:      Questionnaire from AIP

In today's mail, we received a questionnaire that is intended for
members of NASIG to respond to (voluntarily, if you choose).  It is
from the American Institute of Physics, who are deciding whether or not
to imprint machine-readable bar codes on the cover of their journals.
They seek customer input.

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David Schaeffer
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Ann Okerson/ARL
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Bar Code Questions for North American Serials Interest Group

Please note: in all these questions, when we refer to "journals," we mean
scientific or scholarly journals.

1.  When journals arrive with bar codes on their covers, do most of your
libraries have computer systems to scan those codes and use the information
they contain?



2.  If so, what format are the bar code in?  For example, do you know if
most of the bar codes that you see conform to the SISAC standard?  If not,
what standard to they follow?



3.  About what percentage of the journals that your libraries receive
have bar codes on their covers?  Please check one:

less than 25%

25-50%

50-75%

over 75%



4.  Do your libraries prefer one type of bar code over another?  Please tell
us any preferences you have regarding the content, format, location, size or
other qualities of bar codes.  If appropriate, tell us not only what you like
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From:         Lezlie Shell <lshell@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Justification

Texas Instruments' Corporate Library Council has been looking for automation
software for the last year.  The software search hasn't been the problem.
We have four finalists (GEAC Advance is one). The problem is how to get
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We've been relying on the "time is money" approach: an engineer saves
xxx amount of time at $$$$ an hour for a savings of $$$$.... BORING!
Our other approach has been what I call the Wilford Brimley argument:
Automation is the right thing to do.  Equally unconvining.

We need to show up on the bottom line.  Can anyone out there share any
tips/tricks/strategies/studies about proving the worth of such a system?

I can be reached at:  lshell@lobby.ti.com

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Lezlie Shel
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From:         hye_ok_park@CSUFRESNO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Statistics
              "jdunklee@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU" at Oct 2, 92 9:54 am

>
> Subject: Statistics
>
>      Has anyone gotten meaningful statistics from ADVANCE for
> collection management uses?  We need statistics for accreditation
> reports and want to migrate from keeping collection size statistics
> manually.  Any details you have about this please send to JDUNKLEE
> @ DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU. or 800 E. Victoria Street, Carson, CA 90747
>
> Subject: New Acquisitions Lists
>
>      Does anyone use ADVANCE to get lists of new acquisitions by
> HEGIS code?  Please send "how to" information to J. Dunklee
> @DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
>

We would like to find out if anyone has come up with a sensible
circulation statistical report by LC Classification.  We have recently
migrated from CLSI, which gave a list by statistical categories (in
finely broken-down class number ranges) defined by the library.
ADVANCE does have a report by call numbers in very rough categories
which is not very useful.  Short of entering the entire LC Class.
scheme by hand, we are at a loss.  -- Hye Ok Park, CSU Fresno
     	       	    	      	      hye_ok_park@CSUFresno.edu
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Reply-To:     Ronan M Conroy <RCONROY@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
From:         Ronan M Conroy <RCONROY@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      L'uomo e mobile

Fascinating! Karl Wuensch found that women's classroom performance was
related to a whole bunch of logically-linked predictor variables
such as aptitude, general intelligence. Well, I've been analysing
dietary change in the community, and the same thing's true: in women
there are strong links between health knowledge, beliefs, attitudes
and changing dietary habits. In men these links are weak or absent.
I put this down to the control exercised over diet by women, but maybe
we're onto something more essential here. Certainly, if consistency
is the criterion, Piave and Verdi were wrong, la donna is far from
mobile!

ronan
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From:         BERGERD@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU
Subject:      interactive graphics-oriented statistics programs

Dear Colleagues,

I am interested in learning about experiences that you may have had
teaching interactive graphics-oriented statistical analysis.  My
students are mostly Psychology graduate students in a program with an emphasis
on applied research.  Currently we use SPSSx and BMDP for most of our
statistics courses, but I plan to incorporate applications of some
interactive graphics software.

I would like to hear about experiences with specific programs, especially
S-PLUS and SPSSx for Windows, and recommendations you may have.

How does interactive graphics capability affect the way researchers approach
data analysis, compared to analysis with standard packages like SPSSx or BMDP?
Did you find differences in the way data are conceptualized?

You can respond to me at BERGERD@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU or to the LIST.  If
there is enough interest, I will compile responses that come to me and post
them to the LIST.  Thanks.  Dale Berger

Psychology Department, The Claremont Graduate School, Claremont, CA  91711
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Reply-To:     William Kahn <71020.1025@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         William Kahn <71020.1025@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Be there in the morning

Gary Bowden has asked me to "Come and teach my courses."  I've been waiting
for the invite.  In my Porshe now.  Be there in the morning.

-Cher
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From:         PERRYLM@ALF.APPSTATE.EDU
Subject:      survey

This is a survey and I am seeking a response from all who are interested.

Data analysis , in particular using boxplots, is gradually finding its place in
introductory  courses. This includes the new curriculum for kids in U.S. grades
7-12 as well as in first undergraduate courses.

There are a variety of ways of defining "quartiles" or "fourths" or "hinges"
 for the quarter summary and different books and software use different
 definitions. We at least need to be conscious that not everybody is using the
same definitions.
For a beginner, including teachers in the schools, this can be an additional
source of confusion.

There appear to be two favorite definitions used at the intro level and both are
appearing in the teaching literature.

Definition A:

The Tukey "hinge"

 the lower hinge is the median of all of the values <= median,
upper hinge is the median of the values >= median.

in particular when n odd, the middle data value is included in both the upper
and lower halves, the hinges being the medians of these halves.

Definition B:

the lower fourth is the median of all of the values < median, the upper
fourth is the median of all of the values > median.

 for n odd does not include the middle
value in either half. Again the "quartiles" are the medians of the halves.

This, for instance, is the definition used in the QLP
materials(U.S. grades 7-12) and also Jeff Witmer's recent book.




For n even, the two definitions agree because the median is not a data value.
In both, the median is defined as the middle value when n is odd and the mean of
the two values in the middle when n is even.

Articles in The american Statistician, Feb 89 and Aug 87 discuss these and other
definitions and issues.

The choice of definition may be for "technical" reasons, or when teaching intro
students, all of whom are not statistical wizards, the choice may be made on
"pedagogical" grounds.

+++++++++++++

Question:

At the introductory undergraduate level(or the precollege level),
 which definition do you prefer, if any,
and why?

Definition A?

Definition B?

Other Definition? If so, which?

Doesn't make any difference.

Why?

For grades 7-12 , is it important to have a standard
definition?  Should we have standard definition for intro undergrad course?
Should the two agree?


etc.


If you have read this far, I hope you will respond.

I will summarize results and post on edstat-l.

Mike Perry
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC  28608
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From:         "Paul A. Thompson" <pat@PO.CWRU.EDU>
Subject:      Teaching stat: new walls?

Biology    Chemistry   Physics
   Biochemistry   Physical chemistry

Biology    Physics
   Biophysics

If all these disciplines required that only pure persons engage in
them, many important collaborative ideas and research probably would
not have been done.  Too many walls = incestuous inbred research.


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Reply-To:     GILBERT KLAJMAN <KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
From:         GILBERT KLAJMAN <KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
Subject:      Query re Envelope Problem

I feel somewhat out of my depth... particularly since I've looked in vain
for the beginning of the thread on the problem.  I wonder whether anyone
has tried a Monte Carlo approach to the problem, and if so, what results
were obtained.

I ask because I once came across another vos Savant problem (I remember it
as the Monte Hall prize-behind-one-of-three doors problem).  It was only after
I had repeatedly gone through several thousand computer simulations of the
problem that I understood what had initially been (for me only) a very
counter-intuitive solution.

I would try this again... but I think I don't quite grasp the premise of the
problem.

Cheers,

Gil Klajman, Sociology, Montclair State, Upper Montclair, NJ  07043
KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU
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From:         Walt Pirie <WLTPIRIE@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Where Stat is learned.

In a recent note Andy Taylor raises an interesting issue; one I wish there were
 some hard data on: namely where are students learning what statistics they use
? He says a lot at his school just seem to "pick it up" since it's not required
 in most departments. My experience is much different, probably because we've h
ad a Statistics Dept. for over 40 years. Here almost every department in the un
iversity that does quantitative research requires some statistics coursework, a
t the undergraduate, graduate, or both levels. Often a general course in the St
at Dept., followed by a "Research Methodology Course in ----" taught in the sub
ject matter dept. Sometimes a cross-listed course, designed cooperatively and t
aught by members of either faculty. Sometimes a course in the Stat Dept. design
ed as a methods course for a group of departments with similar interests (e.g.
social sciences, engineering,...) in cooperation with those departments. We als
o have a large general intro course that many students take to satisfy general
education requirements in the math sciences. Walt Pirie, Stat, Va Tech.
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Reply-To:     Lee <WOLFLE@VTVM1.BITNET>
From:         Lee <WOLFLE@VTVM1.BITNET>

   With regard to factor analysis, one might also want to read
Stephen Jay Gould, _The Mismeasure of Man_, W.W. Norton & Co.,
1981.

   For a historical perspective, one might read Dael Wolfle,
_Factor Analysis to 1940_, Psychometric Momographs Number 3,
The University of Chicago Press.

   With regard to Sir Cyril Burt, who also, of course, had a
hand in factor analysis, not to mention multiplying numbers of
subjects of identical twins reared apart, I believe the first
reference to this episode can be found in Leon Kamin, _The
Science and Politics of IQ_, Lawrence Erlbaum, 1974.

                                Lee Wolfle
                                WOLFLE at VTVM1
                                wolfle@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
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