From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:01:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.183229.3893@ms.uky.edu> gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li) writes:
> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> 
> >Oh, boy! Apperently you are trying to convince me that Yue Fei was/is a  
hero.  
> >But, the point is different people have different standards towards hero. To  
me  
> >Yue Fei was/is not. I don't even think there was such a general Yue Fei in  
the  
> >history as glorious as the one in the legend. He was another Lei Feng. In  
fact,  
> >giving the situation in later Song Dynasty, it was not a very good idea to  
> >spend all the money on military to drive Nuu Zhen out of northern China. It  
> >would have been a better idea to make tempory peace with Nuu Zhen while gain  
> >more strength. I am not saying Qing Kui was good. But, blindly saying all  
> >people to show or pretend to show patriotism are good. Sometimes, on the  
> >contrary, blind patriotism ruins a country.
> 
> >Again, things happened in the history are really difficult to judge. It is  
just  
> >like you walk on a road and meet a cross (or two branches of roads), you  
choose  
> >one branch and continue walking. Your decision to choose one branch also  
means  
> >your decision to abandon the other branch. Maybe the other branch is much  
> >flater, wider, with much more beautiful scenery. But you forever miss the  
> >chance to see the scenery along that branch. It's just like "an old man lost  
a  
> >horse, how do you know that it is not fortune". If you realize this, than it  
is  
> >not difficult to think that Yue Fei is not more than Wang2 Po3 (old lady  
Wang).
> 
> >What is important is now, not the past. As long as you are free and happy  
now,  
> >why bother think that your father or grandfather may be beggars (which was  
not  
> >very uncommon to those who later became communists).
> 
> 
> >Carl
> 
> Sounds to me that Mr. Carl trys to imply if Chinese did not fight against  
Japan,
> then today a united Japan (or China which name you like to use) would be...
> you know...

You are not clever enough. Give you another hint (some pupils usually are not  
intelligent enough and depend on others' hint to do homeworks). You might know  
Qu1 Yuan2. Oh, you must know. He has been praised as the great patriot poet in  
Chinese history. I remember there was a movie about this great poet QU. The  
movie praised him so hard and it reminded me of some CCP propaganda (in fact,  
the movie was made in Hongkang). Apperently, to some people include you, Mr.  
Li, he was a great patriot who deserved whatever honors for his patriotism.  
However, one thing that puzzle me for many years: if Qu had had realized his  
glorious dream, then there would have been no China. Instead, there would have  
been People's Republic of Qing2, Republic of Qi, Kingdom of Chu, United States  
of Manchuria, United Islamic States of East Turkstan, etc. Think about this.  
Don't get drowned in the ocean of history. If you really want to praise  
somebody in the history, praise Wang Po and Pan1 Lin1lian2 please. At least  
they were the front-runners and martyrs for the current women liberation.

Carl