From: brunner@telebit.com (Eric Brunner)
Subject: Re: growing number of contract-seekers depricated
Followup-To: misc.jobs.misc
Keywords: don't post unless you are buying, not selling, services
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:40:09 GMT


Appology follows. Clue at end.

In article <1992Oct7.184759.969@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
>In article <BvrA7F.4Dw@world.std.com> jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct7.052616.29395@telebit.com> brunner@telebit.com (Eric Brunner) writes:
>>>The subject line _should_ say it all, but dollars to doughnuts it needs to
>>>be spelled out. Misc.jobs.contract is for solicitation of offers to under
>>>take non-employee work -- this means that someone with money wants to buy
>>>temporary time and/or talent, they post here.
>>
>>This is certainly one proper use of the group.
>>
>>>Misc.jobs.contract is _not_ a cheap way to advertize one's availability
>>>to do work, though it is a _very_ effective way to make it known that one
>>>is without a clue.
>>
>>I don't remember any restriction like that in the group charter.  Anyone
>>have a copy handy?
>>
>>People post their availability here regularly.  It probably doesn't
>>get them replies from anyone but headhunters and body shops, but I
>>don't see any reason to stop them.
>
>If Eric had bothered to read the charter of misc.jobs.contract, he would have
>noticed that it is intended for discussion of *all* aspects of contracting,
>including both offers of contracting work and solicitation of such offers.
>If he'd like to change the organization of the newsgroup, he's certainly
>welcome to initiate it through the usual mechanism (RFD, CFV, etc.). 
>Otherwise, he's welcome to purchase the clue he gratuitously offered
>for everyone else's consumption.

Well, occasionally I find that I'm the party with a deficit in relevent
clues. When we urged a head-hunter "offering" finders-fees as "employment",
but actually engaging in frequent, self-congradulatory posts, the m.j.o
text applied, in m.j.o.  What I've done is failed to read all the way down
to the section specific to m.j.c. Having now done so, and replied to several
email messages with my previous less-than-correct-reading of the charter
which Snoopy is kind enough to post monthly, I'm now happy to mention that
I've posted in error.

Do I want to change the existing charter? No thanks. To much noise and
hassel, I'll just use rn's j key to weed out a larger class of posts
than has been my habit, and those who use the newsgroup to advertize
without cost may continue to do so. With any luck, it will be a long time
until there are heaps of non-contract-lettors automatically posting to
this newgroup because it is free and it might get them a nibble, or get
them captive-hire candidates.

>BTW: I know of several individuals who've been moderately successful in
>     obtaining work via postings in this group.
>
>Steve

Great, I guess Steve, but wouldn't it be more effective if there really was
a newsgroup that contract-lettors were interested in reading, with some
form of key-word keyed FAQ-like thingee, so they could finger their way
through the yellow pages? I have the impression that not a whole lot of
potential labor or services buyers know to look, when I did and informal
survay of the frequently posting brokers, few read though all posted, and
these people are "closer" to m.j.c than the occasional contract-lettor.

I promised a clue at the end, the best one that I can come up with is the
Commercial Use policy of the old (D)ARPA Internet, as modified by the CIX
agreement, and applied to nntp-transported news. I hope that suffices.

Note follow-ups, $.02 retracted.

-- 
Eric Brunner Tule Network Services
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