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From: dcg@mogun.UUCP (David Gunsul)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: IT'S YOUR FAULT!
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:30:12 GMT
Organization: Hotrods `R' Us, Montgomery, IL

In article <1992Jul24.121303.19416@bnr.ca>, ericy@crchh435.bnr.ca (Eric Youngblood) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.174231.160@lrc.edu>, blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
> |> You filthy money-grubbing, rich capitalist pigs driving fast sports cars and
> 
> so.....
> 
> What's your point.
> 
> Ericy

8^)

I think the point is on his head Eric.

 
                      
                                          
                     
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From: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: RE: BMW (OR ANY) DRIVING
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 

  Well, I've never taking one of those driving schools, but have read
alot about them.  I suppose you are talking about the Skip Barber
Driving School.  Hey, you get to drive M3's!!!  There is also another
one in at the  Firebird International Raceway near Phoenix, AZ.  It's
the Bob Boundrant School of High Performance Driving.  Their fleet
consist of 90 cars, all  being Ford's.  They use SHO Taurses and 5.0 HO
Mustangs with  SVO modifications.  Also useed are Probe GT's and T-Bird
SC's.  I think the prices are like $300 for 1 day or $600 for a weekend.
 Something like that.

 Erich Lim
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From: drt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Robert Toreki)
Subject: Re: Power of a Blow Out
Summary: Here's an impressive one
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:52:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.101505@troi.UCSD.Edu> dlou@ece.ucsd.edu writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul30.231327.9484@apex.com>, deanc@apex.com (Dean Crane) writes:
>|> In article <1992Jul28.125600.3684@linus.mitre.org>, rajiv@hilltop.mitre.org (Rajiv Kohli) writes:
>|> > What is the power of a blow out on a running car? Has anybody had this unfortunate
>|> > experience? Does the car just go out of control or overturn? What is the safe speed
>|> > number to be?
>
>No loss of control and no incidents.  I just pulled over and changed the tire.
>

	I've never had a blowout, but I've seen two.  The first was a car, and
it was loud, but the driver didn't lose control and just pulled over like the
previous poster.

	The other one was most impressive and quite spectacular.  I was
heading east on the Mass Pike.  Three lanes each way with a small grass median
and metal guard rail in the middle.  As I came over a hill and saw the highway
stretched out before me, I saw a huge cloud of what looked like smoke starting
to cover all 6 lanes of the highway, and in the middle of this was a huge semi
slowly coasting to a stop along the guard rail (heading west).  The huge cloud
of "smoke" was actually dirt from the median strip.  We both rolled to a stop
at about the same moment --large chunks of dirt and grass were strewn over a
several hundred foot area.  The whole side of the truck had chewed along the
guard rail and the side gas tank was split wide open with fuel spilling out
quite rapidly (gallons per minute). 
	When the driver jumped out of the cab I asked if he was OK.  He said
he was.  And said he had a blowout when he was in the middle lane, lost
control and was quite lucky that there was no car between him and the rail. 
Then he glanced down at the growing puddle of diesel and suggested I'd better
leave, which I did quite quickly.  Needless to say, it gave me a little more to
think about the next time I passed a semi.

						Rob
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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: ++WHAT ARE BEST OILS FOR CAR/BIKE??++
Organization: Bit Herders International
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:39:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.064326.3695@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:
+cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
+: 
+: Uh, does your engine ever get warmer that 212 Deg. F??  I would be it does.
+
+I installed an oil temperature gauge, it NEVER gets above 180 Deg. F (the 
+temperature of the thermostat for the oil cooler)

The Motorcyclist that just got delivered has an article on oil that 
mentions that when the oil hits the real hot parts of the engine, it
gets much hotter than a temperature gauge further from that area would
indicate.

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From: IAEXP000@BLURT.OSWEGO.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Neeeded - Name of Car
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:25:00 GMT

I'm not sure if this is the right newsgroup for this, and if it's not then
please point me in the right direction.
 
In a new Burger King commercial (for fish sandwiches or some such) a young
couple is stranded in the desert with a flat tire in a classic blue 
convertable.  Can someone identify for me the name and year of this car?
 
Please reply through e-mail as I don't regularly read this group.
      
Thanks!
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From: hvozda@wilbur.psu.edu (Eric Hvozda)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: MAZDA DEALER RIP OFF
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:11:28 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing

In article <1992Jul30.181914.2532@mips2.ma30.bull.com> K.Buck@ma30.bull.com writes:
>i'll believe that _dealerships_ will agree to just about anything.
>but is Mazda aware of this practice and do they approve?
>(the same question applies to any other brands you may choose as well)

Ah, but I said nothing of Mazda sepecially (tho thread does imply it).  These
are Ford, VW, Mazda, etc, etc...

While I agree it may be helpful to tell the comapny about it, I have seen
situation will not/can not improve after that.

Either way the dealship is basically the business end of the stick.

In that case I take my business elsewhere.  My $$ is my voting power and I
will not support such things.  It's nice that Reading, Easton and Bethelhem is
near by :-)

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From: mascot@bnr.ca (Scott Mason)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: MOBIL OIL NO. 1
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:23:10 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

In article <92205.153107CJOHNSON@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> CJOHNSON@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>I HAVE BEEN USEING MOBIL ONE SYNT. 20/50  FOR ABOUT TEN THOUSAND MILES GIVE OR
>TAKE A THOUSAND. IF I SWITCH BACK TO A REGULAR TYPE OF 20/50 OIL WILL IT HURT
>THE ENGINE ?

No. This was discussed in a technical question in a recent
issue of Road & Track. Their technical editor replied that
you can even mix organic oil in the crankcase at the same
time.

PS. Is there any reason why you were shouting?

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From: mfugazzo@resdgs1.er.usgs.gov (Mark Fugazzotto)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: vega parts wanted
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:43:49 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: United States Geological Survey
Originator: mfugazzo@resdgs1.er.usgs.gov


  I am looking for any 71-77 Chevy Vega hatchback parts.
However, I do need the interior peices to be black.
If it's not running and the parts are worth it, I'll 
tow it away. Please send e-mail if you or someone
you know has one of these old precious gems, and
include a list of what you think might be usable
parts.
                                   Thanks...
                                             M F
From: lokhorst@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Pricing/Opinions on 92 Civic LX
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:48:50 CST
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.




I am considering purchasing a 92 Civic LX with A/C added.  The price I
was quoted was $12,100 (includes that $500 "appearence garauntee").  How 
does that compare with prices others have seen.  Also, what do new Civic
owners think of their cars?

Thanks,

Mark.

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From: garyh@sco.COM (< Gary H >)
Subject: Re: Sentra E vs. Saturn SL (SE-R & SC)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:02:43 GMT


In article <Jul.27.17.02.44.1992.10971@dartagnan.rutgers.edu> trudel@dartagnan.rutgers.edu (Jonathan) writes:
>
>I don't own a Saturn, and I won't consider buying one until they redo
>the way the coupe looks.

That's for sure! It _may_ be a good car, but it's ugly in MY OPINION.

Gary
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From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Oregon Microwave's Radar Jammer
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:20:09 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Jul29.171518.19568@natinst.com>, davoli@natinst.com (Russell 
J. Davoli) writes:
> Regardless of whether a radar jammer is bought or built, isn't it illegal to
> actually use one in your car while driving on the road?  I'm pretty sure 
that
> I heard from somewhere that use of such devices is against the law and that
> a cop can pull you over if his radar unit gives unusual results when you 
drive
> by, esp. if you look like you're speeding.  I can't remember what the 
penalty
> is supposed to be, but I'm sure that would depend on the state.

As I understand it, it is a Federal offense (FCC) because if you use a radar
jammer, you are transmiting without a license.  That's good for five years 
and $10,000 fine I think.

A policeman cannot pull you over because his radar unit is not working,
but if he pulled you over for another reason and discovered the jammer,
I'm not sure what kinda trouble you'd be in...

Of course first he has to know it's a radar jammer.

Please understand, I'm not suggesting the use of a radar jammer! 8-)
That would be illegal.  But the plans are interesting from a hobby
point of view.  Car and Driver tested same at the time it was offered,
and determined it didn't work anyway.


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ceng@mdd.comm.mot.com (Curtis Eng)
Subject: Re: Re: Sentra E vs. Saturn SL (SE-R & SC)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:54:59 GMT

In article <Brwoty.KI@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v368ucgd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (TOM STEEGMANN) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul24.115340.14292@news.unomaha.edu>, ELHAZIN@Zeus.unomaha.edu (Issa Elhazin) writes...
|> >I happen to own a Nissan that I'm totally in love to death with. Every time
|> >I get behind it's wheel I feel as if I just won the lottery. I can never
|> >wait until I can drive it again. No American car ever made me feel this
|> >way including a 69 GT350 Mustang.
|> 
|> 	Than you need help. Either you are not a very good driver and
|> cannot handle driving at the limit, or you are fun-impared. Unless you
|> are talking about a 300zx, there is no Nissan that can even begin to 
|> approach the abilities of a 69 350GT. Do yourself a favor and drive a
|> real car sometime.

That's what I was thinking.  How the hell can a gutless Nissan give you a better
feeling than a good old fashion American muscle car?  Especially one with that
size of an engine and that much horsepower.  I drive a Stealth R/T and I would
never even think of taking on a 69 GT350 Mustang.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: s5umam@fnma.COM (Mike Mohar)
Subject: Re: Passport Wideband Radar Detectors
Reply-To: s5umam@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:09:51 GMT


August issue of Automobile magazine does a review
of the Valentine (one full page).  Review was ok
but didn't really leave me with a good impression.

quick review:

typical tests: radar in a ess curve and hill.

K band in 4756'
X band in 4836'
Stalker Ka Band in 3500'

Bogey counter worked perfectly, properly id'ing  all four
radar bands.  Valantine must to mounted HIGH. an option for
low profile mounting is hightly recommended, detector not 
perfect, takes several seconds of twicking to set it into logic
mode, no memory functions so they have to be set every power
up time. A complex piece, overkill for the avg driver.

Mike
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: American Behemoth Wagons
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:01:15 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Does anyone have any experience with the huge Chevy Caprice/
Olds Custom Cruiser/ Buick Roadmonster of 91 or 92 vintage,
specifically in the station wagon model?

Interested in any experience, good or bad... also, how bad
are these rear-wheel drive dinosaurs in the snow?

	Dave
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: shock tower bar for MX-3
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:26:36 GMT
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Folks:

	I was reading in a British mag. that the Euro. model of
	the Mazda MX-3 comes with a bar mounted across the shock towers
	under the hood.  Mazda decided not to put this bar on the N.A.
	models for some reason.  Is it worth trying to track one of
	these bars down?  

thanks
Barry
From: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: BMW Driving School????
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:56:19 GMT
Reply-To: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Does anyone know of anyone who has participated in
one of these BMW Advanced Driving School Sessions?  It seems to be
real interesting, and I'm really tempted to try one...It's a bit
costly...~$300 on stand-by, but what the heck, once in a lifetime
should be OK.  But the practical use of going to the class is what I'm
looking at: accident avoidance, skid control, performance driving,
etc, etc.  i.e., learn, practice, and experience how to handle a car
in a controlled environment instead of figuring it out in an adverse
situation--stuff they never teach in driver's-ed class.
From: jitloke@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Jit-Loke Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: New MBs
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:32:06 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <22030052@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com> johns@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (John Schubert) writes:
>I think the new S class is an exception. I own a W126 S class and IMHO it's
>the nicest S Mercedes made. I pulled up next to a new one recently. The
>pictures don't give a true reference to size. The new S class is a BARGE!!

I'm not that familiar with the W designation but I remember reading somewhere
that the previous generation S class is actually longer than the current S class.


Jit
From: gunther@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ed Gunther)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Urgent advice needed (MX-6 v/s Probe)
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:24:06 GMT
Reply-To: gunther@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ed Gunther)
Distribution: na
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Jul27.180052.6294@ucunix.san.uc.edu> koustubh@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Koustubh Jha) writes:
> 
>  My two finalists are the 1993 Mazda MX-6 (base model, not LS) and the
>  1993 Ford Probe (again, base model, not the GT).  I do know that both
>  these cars roll out of the same factory in Little Rock, Michigan, and
>  that they have the same 16-valve DOHC 4-cylinder engine (but a different
>  suspension).
> 
>  Since I don't favor either car very much, I am inclined to go with the
>  car with the cheaper price (that is the Probe).  The only hesitation I 
>  have is that the Ford resale value wont be as much as the Mazda (say 5
>  years from now).  Honestly, I have nothing against American cars, but
>  almost every person I meet says "If I were you, I would go for the Mazda",
>  which confuses me.  Also, is it true that the Ford would be cheaper to
>  maintain than the Mazda (for oil-changes, servicing, parts)?
> 
   I have been seriously considering the '93 Probe and MX-6.  I did an
   analysis of Blue Book resale values over the past 5 years.  I was
   surprised to find they tracked very closely, although you would expect
   this of cars with the same base platform.  In fact, the MX-6 depreciated
   a little faster over the first year or two(overpriced??).  This trend is
   likely to continue since these cars are assembled in the US with 75%
   domestic components.  Similarly, you can expect part prices for the Probe
   and MX-6 to be very close.  Dealer service and charges will vary as always
   from dealer to dealer.  Find a Ford or Mazda dealer with a good reputation
   for customer service if this is a major concern.
 
>  I would appreciate any/every comment you have - and please make it soon
>  'coz 3 days from now I might own one of these beauties.
> 
>  If you recently bought a '93 Probe or a '93 MX-6, could you also tell
>  me what a good price would be with the options I mentioned earlier, and
>  how much you paid for your car.

   Sorry, I priced the V6, and found the Probe significantly cheaper.
   When I test drove the Probe, the V6 was smooth as silk.  I did about 85MPH
   in third, and only knew it by looking at the Tach.  Nice Car!!

>  Thanx a ton.
>  Koustubh
> 


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From: kam@mprgate.mpr.ca (Danny Kam)
Subject: Wheels info. needed
Keywords: wheels, rims
Reply-To: kam@mprgate.mpr.ca (Danny Kam)
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:06:15 GMT

Hi;

     I am planning to buy a set of wheels for my new car.  I have been looking
around lately but it seems that most places that sell alloy wheels do not have
too many models in stock and that they will usually show you catalogues or
brochures and they will claim that they can order anything from catalogues for
you........but whether they actually fit your car remains unknown (I know this
because my friend has sure an experience).

     Can anyone tell me is there any magazine out there that has info. on 
wheels??  I want to have something that show at least the color pictures and
prices for the wheels, and NOT those black and white tiny ad. in car magazines.

     Any help is appreciated.

Danny
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From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Connolly Hide Food
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:20:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul29.101401.1@us.oracle.com>, eoates@us.oracle.com writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.155840.7084@dsd.es.com>, bjernfal@olin.dsd.es.com (Jan Bjernfalk) writes:
>> 
>> A while back I remember seeing some positive reviews of a treatment
>> for leather seats called "Connolly Hide Food", or something close to
>> that.
>> 
>> Does anyone know where to buy this stuff?
>> 
>> -- 
>> __________________________________________________________________________
>> Jan Bjernfalk                           Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
>> bjernfal@dsd.es.com                     Salt Lake City, Utah  801-582-5847
> 
> I use the stuff on my Ferrari.  It is available at the service department of
> any dealer which sells cars equiped with Connolly Leather: Ferrari,
> Rolls-Royce, Bently, Jaguar, Lotus, maybe some others.  I prefer it to Lexol.
> 
> Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle's)

Ed, I was just curious why you prefer this brand rather than the Lexol.  I am
restoring a 1969 Jaguar XKE and I was using Lexol on the leather.  I was just
wondering what the difference was between the two.

--Rob
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From: quadrun@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason G Velasco)
Subject: Re: IEEE Spectrum article on 'Improving on Police RADAR'
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:46:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.175121.24139@cco.caltech.edu> hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) writes:
>For anyone who is interested in the current state-of-the-art in police
>radar, there is a well written (though somewhat pious) article on
>police radar in the July 1992 issue of the Institute of Electrical and
>Electronics Engineers (IEEE) Spectrum magazine.  This magazine should
>be available in most public libraries.

I don't find it that believable.  They say LIDAR is pretty much undetectable
or at least hard to detect, while Escort (previously Cincinnati Microwave)
claims their LIDAR detector has a range of 2 miles.

Hmmmm....

Say, anyone have a list of states that use Ka and/or LIDAR?

Thanks,
Jason
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