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From: maraman@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jason J Maraman)
Subject: Re: Still more XFree86 problems
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 08:41:49 GMT

In article <51098@shamash.cdc.com> pbd@runyon.cim.cdc.com (Paul Dokas) writes:
>I'm still having problems with XFree86.  When ever I run 'startx'
>or 'xinit' or 'X386 :0' the X server starts up, puts the screen
>into graphics mode (not clear) and just hangs.
>

>BTW, my problems might be due to the com ports that I have in my system.
>Here is a section of my config file:
>
>  device          com1    at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector comintr
>  device          com2    at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector comintr
>  device          com3    at isa? port 0x3e8 tty irq 4 vector comintr
>  device          com4    at isa? port 0x2e8 tty irq 3 vector comintr
>
>com1 and com2 are on a multi-io board (ide, fd, 2serial, 1parallel, 1game)
>and com3 and com4 are on a serial io card.  Com3 is a 16450, and com4 is
>a 16550.  They are all found and configured correctly at boot time.  My mouse
>is on com1 and my ascii terminal is on com3.

Because of the way ISA handles interrupts, it is not possible to 
reliably share interrupts among multiple cards.  However, if all the ports 
are on the same card and the card is designed properly, then the ports can 
be shared (this assumes the device driver knows how to deal with this).

If you want to use all your com ports, there is no reason why you can't
use interrupts other than 3 and 4 by cutting the leader to the appropriate
pin and soldering a wire from there to the interrupt line you want to use.
It's really quite simple and I have it working on my machine.  If you
want more information on this then please email.  Also, if you decide
to do this and fry your board then don't blame me.

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Purdue University                                   
Xref: sparky comp.unix.bsd:11084 fj.os.386bsd:248
From: mhiroshi@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (H. Murakami)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,fj.os.386bsd
Subject: A potential danger bug with vfprintf in 386bsd.
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:28:28 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd
Organization: Hokkaido Univ. However I am subject to tansei for JUNET.

To: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: A potential danger bug with vfprintf in 386bsd.


% cat a.c
/*
 *  There is potential danger of vfprintf rountine
 *  used in 386bsd.
 *
 *  This is somewhat extraordinal code, since
 *  the format  %50.40le  or like are rather cray 
 *  man's request. However the system  shouldn't 
 *  put the wrong result without error, 
 *  since most computation is carried out 
 *  in the black box manner.
 *  PS. How this could be fixed gracefully?
 */

main()
{
	double x = 1e10;

	printf("%50.37le\n", x);
	printf("%50.38le\n", x);
	printf("%50.39le\n", x);
	printf("%50.40le\n", x);
	printf("%50.41le\n", x);
	printf("%50.42le\n", x);
	printf("%50.43le\n", x);

}


% gcc a.c
% a.out
       1.0000000000000000000000000000000000000e+10
      1.00000000000000000000000000000000000000e+10
     1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000e+10
    1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000e+100   <<< LOOK  !
   1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000e+1000   <<< LOOK  !
  1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000e+10000   <<< LOOK  !
 1.000000000000000000000000000000000000000e+100000   <<< LOOK  !
%
%
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
Followup-To: comp.std.internat
Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:46:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.090747.29232@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
> >>or
> >>"pollutes" the files (all files except those stored in US-ASCII have file
> >>sizes which no longer reflect true character counts on the file).

> Destruction of this information is basically unacceptable for Western users

Gee, since this information is already non-existant for anything but computer
source (computer programs and other data intended to be read by a compiler
or other plain text parser), and even there information is hidden in white
space (is that a tab or 8 spaces?), I find it hard to understand this
statement.

> Consider for a moment, if you will, changing the first character of a
> field in a 1M file.  Not only does this cause the record size ot become
> variant on the data within it (thus rendering a computed lseek() useless,
> since the records are no longer fixed size), but it requires that the entire
> file contents be shifted to accomodate what used to be ther rewrite of a
> single block.

Files containing fixed sized fields will be unable to contain runic data within
the fields, or the feilds will have to be padded, just as they are now. The
occasions you can do this sort of meddling in a plaintext file are pretty
limited already.
-- 
Peter da Silva                                            `-_-'
Ferranti International Controls Corporation                'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012 USA
+1 713 274 5180                            "Zure otsoa besarkatu al duzu gaur?"
From: dfox@quack.sac.ca.us (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Locate/fast-find (Was: Re: Shared lib X for 386bsd?)
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 11 Jan 1993 03:07:58 UTC

In article <EWERLID.93Jan8222423@ida.docs.uu.se> you write:

I tried mailing this, but it bounced.

>A very useful command is `locate' or `fast find'.
>Just run `updatedb' at regular intervalls.

I have something similar, but probably not in the same format that
locate can use.  It's part of a 386bsd program 'fs' that shows all
open files.  There's a program 'fsmakedb' that makes a database of
all files in the filesystem, and I run it as part of /etc/rc.

>Anyway, rather than asking the net where a file in my own filessytem
>is I'd run a brute force 'find / -print | grep xterm'. :-)

Actually, the '-print' is superflous, just ' find . | grep xterm' should
work.  And, that's pretty fast in finding files, too.

--
David Fox
dfox@quack.sac.ca.us
From: mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Ohta enpitsu inke desu
Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:34:41 GMT
Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology

This article is for rec.humor, maybe, with no technical content.

In article <1993Jan7.222423.899@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
	terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:

>>I changed the subject to reflect the content better.
>
>I changed the subject as you did, to be insulting rather than useful.

Sorry, but, could you teach me in which language the subject is written?

First, I assumed Japanese (in Romaji). But, even trying to do full error
corrections on possible misspellings and other errors, I can't make
the subject meaningful. Yes, "Ohta" is my name and "enpitsu" is pencil.
But that's all I can recognize.

..... Aha! Yes, your meaningless subject reflects the content of your
article better than mine.

>I expect you to change the
>topic again, but hopefully to something germane to the content of the
>posting rather than another insult.

I can't make the subject more insulting to you. You are the real genius.

>>You are dumb.
>
>I can speak just fine, thank you, not that a handicap of that nature, were
>I to have it, would make me any less of a person.

You are mentally handicapped. That's all what I wanted to say.

>>Do you know what HASHING is? If not, read Knuth. 
>
>Hashing involves a loss of information (read Knuth yourself).

Are there any new book of Knuth published on April 1?

>Thinking that, since you did not suggest that the ouput would be other than
>the default for cat, I made the mistake of taking your words to mean what
>they meant.  To which you intentionally misinterpreted:

"default for cat"? Have you checked your dictionary? A cat is an animal,
a mamal.

Oh! You are talking about computers, then "cat" should be a name of a command.
Yes, on OS/9, "cat" means "catalog", something like "ls" of UNIX. Or, on
UNIX, "cat" means something different. It is a name of a photo typesetter.
But, it should have been obvious from the context that "cat" is "catalog".

The default for "cat" is the current drive.

Now, I admit that I can't make my article more laughable than yours.
So, I discontinue. You have finally won.

						Masataka Ohta
From: duplain@rtf.bt.co.uk (Andy Duplain)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386BSD] patch for UK keyboard
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:35:03 GMT
Organization: BT Customer Systems, Brighton, UK


	Here is a patch to /sys/i386/isa/pccons.c to produce the correct
	keys for a UK keyboard.

*** pccons.c.ORIG	Sat Jan  4 11:53:20 1992
--- pccons.c	Mon Jan  4 12:22:44 1993
***************
*** 1153,1159 ****
  	NONE,	"",		"",		"",		/* 0 unused */
  	ASCII,	"\033",		"\033",		"\033",		/* 1 ESCape */
  	ASCII,	"1",		"!",		"!",		/* 2 1 */
! 	ASCII,	"2",		"@",		"\000",		/* 3 2 */
  	ASCII,	"3",		"#",		"#",		/* 4 3 */
  	ASCII,	"4",		"$",		"$",		/* 5 4 */
  	ASCII,	"5",		"%",		"%",		/* 6 5 */
--- 1153,1159 ----
  	NONE,	"",		"",		"",		/* 0 unused */
  	ASCII,	"\033",		"\033",		"\033",		/* 1 ESCape */
  	ASCII,	"1",		"!",		"!",		/* 2 1 */
! 	ASCII,	"2",		"\"",		"\000",		/* 3 2 */
  	ASCII,	"3",		"#",		"#",		/* 4 3 */
  	ASCII,	"4",		"$",		"$",		/* 5 4 */
  	ASCII,	"5",		"%",		"%",		/* 6 5 */
***************
*** 1190,1199 ****
  	ASCII,	"k",		"K",		"\013",		/* 37 k */
  	ASCII,	"l",		"L",		"\014",		/* 38 l */
  	ASCII,	";",		":",		";",		/* 39 ; */
! 	ASCII,	"'",		"\"",		"'",		/* 40 ' */
! 	ASCII,	"`",		"~",		"`",		/* 41 ` */
  	SHIFT,	"",		"",		"",		/* 42 shift */
! 	ASCII,	"\\",		"|",		"\034",		/* 43 \ */
  	ASCII,	"z",		"Z",		"\032",		/* 44 z */
  	ASCII,	"x",		"X",		"\030",		/* 45 x */
  	ASCII,	"c",		"C",		"\003",		/* 46 c */
--- 1190,1199 ----
  	ASCII,	"k",		"K",		"\013",		/* 37 k */
  	ASCII,	"l",		"L",		"\014",		/* 38 l */
  	ASCII,	";",		":",		";",		/* 39 ; */
! 	ASCII,	"'",		"@",		"'",		/* 40 ' */
! 	ASCII,	"`",		"|",		"`",		/* 41 ` */
  	SHIFT,	"",		"",		"",		/* 42 shift */
! 	ASCII,	"#",		"~",		"#",		/* 43 \ */
  	ASCII,	"z",		"Z",		"\032",		/* 44 z */
  	ASCII,	"x",		"X",		"\030",		/* 45 x */
  	ASCII,	"c",		"C",		"\003",		/* 46 c */
***************
*** 1236,1242 ****
  	KP,	".",		"\177",		".",		/* 83 kp . */
  	NONE,	"",		"",		"",		/* 84 0 */
  	NONE,	"100",		"",		"",		/* 85 0 */
! 	NONE,	"101",		"",		"",		/* 86 0 */
  	FUNC,	"\033[W",	"\033[i",	"\033[u",	/* 87 f11 */
  	FUNC,	"\033[X",	"\033[j",	"\033[v",	/* 88 f12 */
  	NONE,	"102",		"",		"",		/* 89 0 */
--- 1236,1242 ----
  	KP,	".",		"\177",		".",		/* 83 kp . */
  	NONE,	"",		"",		"",		/* 84 0 */
  	NONE,	"100",		"",		"",		/* 85 0 */
! 	NONE, 	"\\",		"|",		"\\",		/* 86 \ */
  	FUNC,	"\033[W",	"\033[i",	"\033[u",	/* 87 f11 */
  	FUNC,	"\033[X",	"\033[j",	"\033[v",	/* 88 f12 */
  	NONE,	"102",		"",		"",		/* 89 0 */


-- 
Andy Duplain, BT Customer Systems, Brighton, UK.           duplain@rtf.bt.co.uk
#define	DISCLAIMER      My views and opinions are my own, and not my company's
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C)
Subject: Re: INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST
Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages
Organization: Weber State University  (Ogden, UT)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 01:57:45 GMT

In article <1iksfhINN4s0@rodan.UU.NET> avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:
>In article <"our.bsdi.clip".1993Jan8.072720.9554@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
>
>>[stuff deleted]
>
>I admit that i'm giving up. It is useless to argue against a person who
>makes illogical statements. My life philoshophy includes a point on not
>preventing people from learning on their own mistakes if they're unable
>to learn on past mistakes of other people.
>
>Go on, Terry. Prove the that you're wizard you claim to be. I have a
>better ways of killing my time than arguing with you.

This is too bad; you, at least, did not resort to ad-hominim attacks, and
had several good points in favor of your arguments (even though you weren't
willing to discuss your arguments pro your approach, and instead focussed
almost entirely on trashing the idea of Unicode).

I would still like to hear more about your proposals.  I am already well
aware of the pitfalls in mine, and did not need you or anyone else to point
them out to me -- although you did make me consider several points I had
not taken into account, and I am the better for it.

I wish that you would allow me to make constructive comments on your approach,
but other than the fact that you have one and it involves a unified set of
character sets rather than a unified character set (as in Unicode), you have
told me very little that would allow me to implement anything (while Unicode
is not optimal for your proposed applications, at least it can be implemented
from publicly available information).

It is lamentable that you have been so focused on the bad points of Unicode
that you could not discuss the technical aspects of your approach in
sufficient detail to make it a viable alternative.

					Regards,
					Terry Lambert
					terry@icarus.weber.edu
					terry_lambert@novell.com
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.
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 Get the 386bsd FAQ from agate.berkeley.edu:/pub/386BSD/386bsd-0.1/unofficial
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From: mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:16:41 GMT
Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec30.010216.2550@nobeltech.se>
	ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson) writes:

>>The reason is that, with Unicode, we can't achieve internationalization.
>
>But, what has Unicode got to do with ISO-10646 ? Has the promised (very much
>needed IMHO) revision of Unicode arrived ? (1.1). Unicode is a 16bit character-
>set which I know did ugly things with asiatic languages. I thought 10646,
>which is a 32bit standard (by ISO !) did not, except for doing something
>the turks didn't like, don't remember what it was. Enlighten me !

Once upon a time, DIS 10646 was a 32 bit usable standard.

Later, it was transformed into unusable DIS 10646-1.2, an equivalent of
Unicode.

While DIS 10646-1.2 theoretically allows for 31 bit representation, it's
only theoretically.

							Masataka Ohta
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Subject: Re: #9GXe (S3 86C928)???
Reply-To: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Organization: CEBAF (Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:13:08 GMT

--
In article <1993Jan4.164727.17973@netcom.com>, hasty@netcom.com (Amancio
Hasty Jr) writes:

|>
|>Does anyone has #9 phone number?
|>

It's 1-800-GET-NINE,  617-674-0009 or 617-674-2919 (FAX).

Adrian
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4))
Subject: Re: [386bsd] The install program (again)
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:25:47 GMT

Tonny Madsen (tm@mentor.dk) wrote:
: I have just been asked to install 386bsd on 30+ machines, and would
: like some advise on this.
: 
: My idea is to make a 386bsd partition, that is as small as possible,
: and then NFS mount everything else from a fast server (probably a
: DEC/5000). In theory this partition can be as small as 2-3 Mb (plus
: swap!), but it doesn't necessarily have to be this small :->

I believe you can run this on a floppy but my main problems now
are the difficulty in NFS mounting.

Good luck to you.
: 
: To do this I would like to have a single disk, like the tiny 386bsd
: boot disk, that a potential user can use to make his local 386bsd
: environment. And for this I need something like the install program
: from the tiny 386bsd boot disk. I haven't been able to find this
: program in my (full) distribution, and from a posting just before
: christmas I understand this program isn't in the public domain. The
: questions then is:
: 
: - can I get the sources for the install program anyhow? :-> :->
: 
: - does anybody have an install-like program I can use? :->
: 
: - does anybody have some of the code fragments, that is needed to get
:   the disk geometry from the CMOS, make the initial disk label, and
:   change the master boot block to use 386bsd or one of the multiple OS
:   booters, that are available? :-|
: 
: - does anybody know how to get the disk geometry from the CMOS? :-<

ideconf will do what you wnat.

sources for ideconf is only for dos C compilers.


--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386bsd] Installing from SCSI tape
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:32:49 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.bsd
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

I'm reposting this becuase I neglected to use the [386BSD] notation
in the header, so I suspect a lot of people never saw my posting (people
using 386BSD probably scan for that string).

Anyway, on my 486/33 ISA, 128kb cache, 16mb, Maxtor 8760S, CDC 94171-307,
Archive Viper 2150S, I have booted and installed from floppy.  Now I want
to isntall the full system.  I have the files on 1/4" tape - however when
I try to access the tape device (scsi id 4), I get an "error 9".  I have
no clue what "error 9" means.  Does anyone out here know?  Anyone know
how to fix the problem?

Someone suggested changing the /dev/ras4a minor device to "16" (decimal)
which I ahve done.  The same thing occurs.

Thanks in advance,
Bill




-- 
Bill Heiser
heiser@bu.acs.edu, heiser@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: tuttlem@meg.uncg.edu (Matthew Tuttle)
Subject: [386BSD] Too many files open. 
Organization: University of North Carolina at Greensboro 
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:33:44 GMT
X-Posted-From: meg.uncg.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hello,
	I am a first time user of 386bsd and newsfeed services.  My installation problem occurs after the distribution floppy has finished "install" and the hard drive is settled.
	I can "loadfd" all of the bin.xx, src.xx, etc.xx files from 3.5" stiffies.  And I can even "extract" the bin.xx files, but I cannot "extract" the src.xx or etc.xx files.  After file number 60 "cat" reports the following error, "cat: too many files open.", and as you can imagine "extract" doesn't like to take NO for an answer.  I tried to cat them all into one big file but then, of course, "extract" can't find the rest of the files.

	Thanx,
	Matt.

ps: As my access to a newsreader is *somewhat* limited, could anyone please reply in the form
    of email directed to one of these internet addresses:

	"tuttlem@meg.uncg.edu"
	"tuttle@meg.uncg.edu".
From: thomasg@akela.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Gellekum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: does bsd g++ work.
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:54:44 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: akela.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

kovelan@wizards.austin.ibm.com writes:

>Fellow bsd'ers:	
>  
>     I tried to use the g++ compiler and found that it was giving me a
>"ld" error.  This is not the	
>whole error message, I did'nt have it with me at the time of this note. 
> Has any one had this same
>problem??  Has anyone got g++ to work at all (or is this a configuration
>issue)????   

i assume, ld complains about missing symbol _eprintf. just add -lgnulib 
to your linker flags. libgnulib.a should be checked twice for the symbols.

hope this helps.


>Thanks,  kovelan@wizards.austin.ibm.com 

tsch"o wa 

thomas
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dq060ge@dacth11.bitnet	     |      thomasg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
"why stop now, just when i'm hating it?" - marvin 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: rayt@rtsl.demon.co.uk (Ray Turner)
Subject: [386BSD] Install fp exception
Distribution: world
Organization: Ray Turner Systems Ltd
Reply-To: rayt@rtsl.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:16:34 +0000

I just tried to install command from the 386BSD 0.1 boot disk onto
a oldish 40Mb disk and it dies with a floating point exception after
printing the disk details. Is this a know problem?

The machine is a Dell 300 (16Mhs 386 with 287 FPU).

Ray.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: g88d4938@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR GE DOYLE)
Subject: [386bsd] swap space?
Keywords: swap, space, 386bsd
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:09:46 GMT

Hi all
 A question: How large must the swap space be on a 386bsd system?
 I know that the size is probably indicated by the X window system. So what 
 I want to know is what is the minimum size needed and what is a comfortable
 size (if the 2 differ).
 Any feedback on this would be much appreciated.

 Thanx
  Greg