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Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Baby Monitor recommendations
From: abel@vax.sonoma.edu (dan abel)
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:37:56 -0800
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <1992Aug11.123457.6080@linus.mitre.org>, kvt@willow.mitre.org writes:
> Are there any other baby monitor users out there that have
> noticed that you can sometimes pick up the signal of other
> users in your area on your monitor?
> 
> I remember a couple of mornings (when we still used the monitors)
> when I could hear a newborn crying, older children playing, and
> adults discussing this and that on my monitor when I had my very
> much asleep daughter in my arms.  This really bothered me because
> I felt if was an invasion of privacy and wondered how many other
> people in my neighborhood were listening in on our conversations.
> Then I figured out that the only time we were picking up someone
> else's signal was when our base unit was turned off but the
> receiver was mistakenly left on.  Is this common?  Does it only
> happen if the same brands of monitors are used in close range? 
> (The other users turned out to be the neighbors behind us).
> 
> 
> Kathy T.

You know those scanners that people have in their homes and cars for 
eavesdropping on police and fire calls?  They can pick up *your* baby 
monitor also!  Think of it.  Everything you do in your house, while 
the base unit is on and within range, is public.
From: dcs@witsend.tnet.com (D. C. Sessions)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Turnips?????
Date: 16 Aug 92 06:07:10 GMT
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.03

In <16f98kINN8ui@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, nola@cats.ucsc.edu (Nola Van Vugt)  wrote:
# No surprise at all--my kids LOVE brussel sprouts (blanched in lots of
# boiling water, pot uncovered, just until they are barely tender and
# still bright green).  What's really funny is when friends come for
# dinner who have never heard of the brussel sprouts, are told by my
# kids that they are great, try them, like them, all kids end up in a
# brussel sprout eating contest, leaving none for me, and then bug their
# shocked parents to serve brussel sprouts!

  Yes, but can you imagine what would happen if YOU suggested such
  obviously yucky stuff?  (BTW, Alaric and Ryan also likes Brussel
  sprouts, but sister and coparent are less enthusiastic.  Try them
  baked with chestnuts -- seriously different!)
---
--- D. C. Sessions                            Speaking for myself ---
--- Note new network address:                    dcs@witsend.uucp ---
--- And if that doesn't work:                dcs@witsend.tnet.com ---
--- There never was any correspondence between my views and SCI's ---
From: cah@pdx.csd.mot.com (Chris Huey)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How to have a smarter baby?
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:44:07 GMT
Organization: Motorola CSD, Beaverton, OR
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Laura Floom (lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov) wrote:
: In article <71320@apple.Apple.COM> scott@Apple.COM (scott douglass) writes:
: >I already have a smarter baby, but thanks anyway.  >;)
: >
: >Seriously, I think that stuff's a waste of money.  Babies are
: >supposed to be carried and cuddled and that's how they learn
: >what they're supposed to learn.
: 
: Someone gave me the book when I was a few months pregnant. I have to admit
: that I didnt really bother to read it, but at onepoint I sort of browsed 
: thru it. I wasnt terribly earth shattering. Basically it was a routine for
: interacting with your baby. 

[deleted to save space]

: 
: Save your money, or check out the local Salvation Army store - that is where
: my copy ended up ;-).
: 

Hmmm.... We're already doing the stimulation stuff (yes, in addition to lots
of cuddling, etc.) but I feel that it is pertinent to note that the latest
Scientific American (Sept issue?) has the whole magazine devoted to the brain
with one article discussing this one subject (visual, auditory, taste, etc.
stimulation) in infants.  I just barely got a chance to glance through the 
article this morning (you know, diapers, feeding, etc.) but it seems that 
this stimulation increases the number of synapse connections which is 
supposed to make your baby smarter.  If you want more details, E-mail and 
I will send/post the gist of the article.  

-- 
Chris Huey                             Motorola Inc., Computer Systems Division
cah@pdx.csd.mot.com                                                            
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From: mikem@rgb.com (Mike Mages)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: test - please ignore
Summary: testing
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:00:27 GMT
Organization: RGB Spectrum

We are having some trouble posting, so I'll try this group
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 12:44:31 EDT
From: Ailsa N.T. Murphy <IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: What to do with a late talker?

well, katy was a late talker, and i was nervous as anything about
it, as my mother-in-law was constantly "humorously" implying that
she was retarded, and it began to get to me.  she talks fine now,
has a vocabulary well beyond her years, and these days the
trick is to get her to STOP talking.  could be your daughter doesn't
want to talk unless she can do it RIGHT.

                                           -ailsa
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: birth announcement
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:58:59 MDT
Organization: United Order of Non-joiners

Sarah Magda Clark
18 August 1992 at 1:14 p.m.
8 lb. 8.5 oz., 19.5"
Apgars 8 & 9

     Mother and baby are doing well.  Michael (2yo) is happy to be a
big brother, and sometimes whines when he can't hold the baby.  Mother
is quite relieved to have the little furnace on the outside in this
hot weather.
-- 
Patrick S. Clark |  "Pizza's OK."  -- Splinter, in   
Email is life!   | _Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_II_
Usual disclaimer |     _The_Secret_of_the_Ooze_
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Subject: Re: Witches (was Re: you know you are a parent when)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:00:05 GMT
Reply-To: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA

In article <1992Aug20.151049.9340@lotus.com>, phil@lotatg.lotus.com (Phil 
Ritari) writes:
> I missed the beginning of this, but I thought I'd add how this is a special  

> problem for us living as we do in Salem, Mass., and particularly as this is 
the  
> 300th anniversary of the Salem witchcraft trials. It is very wierd that  
> although the witchcraft trials bring up the issues of tolerance, social  
> hysteria, etc., the popular appeal of Salem to most tourists is the  
> witch-on-a-broomstick motif.

That must be a real problem explaining to kids!  How old are your children?  
If you don't mind my asking, do you also explain to them how none of these 
people that were killed were really witches?  Just curious.
From: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Choking - What to do?
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:53:44 GMT
Reply-To: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CDNSWC

(I think the attributes are messed up so I deleted them)
>>Yes, that's the first step, the back slap. The "finger sweep"
>>should NEVER be done unless you can see the object, the danger

>It's my understanding that the backslap should also never be done.
>It can move the obstruction DOWN rather than UP.  With little ones,
>I prefer the "hold them upside down and shake technique."
>It also works to rest them face down on your lap and then slap the back.
>There are lots of variations involving

One technique I have not seen mentioned, that my mother taught me:
Raise the child's arms above their head rather suddenly.
This apparently can cause the diaphragm to contract, forcing the object
up and out.  She has even taught my nephew to do this to himself, and
it works.  (Of course, we have only ever had to deal with minor choking,
not something really serious.)

Diane Segelhorst
dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: michelle@cs.utk.edu (Michelle)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Somewhat wierd Ultrasound Experience
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:49:03 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

We were able to have our ultrasound today and while I wouldn't
trade it for much of anything, I don't know that I will rush
to do it again (this pregnancy).

The whole thing lasted about 45 minutes because it was part of a
conference where they had one terribly experienced doctor running
the exam (he was _good_) and two people observing.

I am guessing that about halfway through the exam I broke out in
cold sweats, felt like I was going to throw up and the baby went
ballistic.  She was kicking and moving around like nothing I had
ever felt before. 

It was not at all pleasant - I'm guessing - for either of us.

Anyhow, it went away as soon as it appeared and I only felt bad
for about 5 minutes.

Anyone have anything like this happen?

michelle
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 09:02:58 EDT
From: <34LI6RE@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: You know your a parent when...

...you're visiting with your m-in-law and your 8 yr. old son is sqeeling
and making so much noise you can't think or hear.  So, you turn around and say
"enough already" and it's your f-in-law who's making the noises while
playing with your son!

Holly Whitehead
Central Michigan University
34li6re@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mrp@world.std.com (Marjorie R Peskin)
Subject: IUGR/Hostile environment
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:37:49 GMT

As many of you know, I am expecting twins any day now.  I had a biophysical
profile today, (as I have been having twice a week for 3 weeks now) and 
the doctor told me that the top baby is now regarded as having IUGR
(Intrauterine growth retardation).  he said that I was now considered
a hostile environment for the baby.  Besides the cruelty of the actual
words (up there with clomid failure, products of conception, etc) I was
really upset with the anti-climatic end to this long and difficult pregnancy.

This was not my regular doctor, in fact I have never even seen him before.
But he suggested that when I see my regular OB on Thursday that she would
schedule either an induction or a C-section for next week.  He did stress
that this was not an emergency situation, but one that required intervention
to ensure that the smaller baby would be able to grow outside the womb.

The weight difference is becoming striking between the two babies.  The 
presenting baby (boy) is 6 lbs, and the top baby (supposed girl) is
4 lbs 8 oz.  Her weight has not changed in 3 weeks.  I can literally see
the difference is size on the ultrasound.  Both babies get 8/8 on the 
biophysical profiles.

My question is:  has this happened to anyone else, and what exactly happened
to the babies once they were born.  This doctor seemed to think that she
would not be going home with me, but that he would.  That seems to be an
impossible situation for nursing.  Would I have to pump every time I nursed
to have enough milk for the hospitalized baby?  How does this work?

Has anyone had a baby that small at 37 weeks?  One that was breathing and
was basically healthy if not very small?  What was this like?  

Did your doctor induce you or just schedule a C-section?  Is a vaginal 
delivery more difficult for an IUGR baby?

Has anyone had a transverse baby that actually measured significantly
lower on the ultrasound that in actual life?  How accurate are the
biophysical profile measurements, especially if I am having them twice
a week?

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Marjorie	mrp@world.std.com
From: Lynn Gazis-Sax <lgsax@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:29 PDT
Subject: Re: Re; Farrow and Allen
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug21.155959.9379@nsscmail.a:-12490696:cdp:1427100033:000:660
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!lgsax    Aug 22 22:29:00 1992


I'm happy to consider Allen innocent until proven
guilty as far as the daughter is concerned.  A man
who would cross boundaries in adult sexual relationships
isn't necessarily a man who would molest a child,
and there isn't proof so far.

But I don't see how the child of the mother of
his children can be anything other than his
stepdaughter.  The fact that they didn't marry
doesn't matter, since they were parents together.
Legally, it isn't incest, but morally, it has
all the same repercussions as any stepparent/stepchild
relationship, and so qualifies as incest.  Why would
the legal formality of a marriage license make
any difference?

Lynn Gazis-Sax

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: GeraldR@sunfish.ratsys.com (Gerald Ruderman)
Subject: Re: Only Kids
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:05:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.211038.10020@sq.com> barb@sq.com (Barbara Burrows) writes:

>So.  What's the problem?  I'm worried that Jordan is going to be raised 
>virtually as an only child.  Sure he has sisters.....but much older....and
>completely doting.  How will he learn to share?  How will he keep from being
>lonely when there are no playmates around his age (and there are, in fact, 
>no playmates around his age.)?  How will he learn to develop relationships?
>How will he learn perspective on his importance in the scheme of things when
>he is an "only"......the only grandchild.....the only boy......and everyone
>is nuts about him....and only him?

I can't predict the future, so I can only tell you what happened to use 8 
years further on without the older share-sisters Jordan has.

We have a 9 year old only child girl. There have never been enough playmates 
around in the current neighborhood or the previous one. She spends a lot 
more time with adults that most kids her age. I can't see that she has any 
problems developing relationships (compared to those I had as older of 2 
children.) She learned how to share (probably in pre-school). She is slowly 
learning to use reading as an outlet for relieving loneliness, doing 
things with her parents is another outlet and TV a third (but we try to keep 
that ver limited.) 

There are certainly more potential problems in store for us. Up to now the 
most important thing I think we did was start her in pre-school at 2.5 to 
get her lots of contact with children and limited attention from adults.

I'd like to hear from adult only children more on what parents of only-
children should try to do. Also from parents of only teenagers.

Gerald Ruderman                                   geraldr@ratsys.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Subject: Re: duplicate baby blankets
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:57:00 GMT

After reading all these posts, all I can say is, boy, lots of you
are really lucky! My daughter (6) has a bunny that is her 'lovey'.
This bunny has seen it all, done it all, and been stitched together
by me numerous times. He is also mostly nude, due to a (thankfully
short lived) period when she started pulling out her own hair. I
gave her 'Bunny' to pull hair out of, and it save her hair. But,
poor 'Bunny' needs a winter coat! 8-) She has other animals and dolls
she takes places too, but whne it comes down to it, 'Bunny' is the
one. In fact, her newest worry is what if the house burns down while
we are gone - 'Bunny' cannot be replaced! Guess I need to get a fire-
proof safe. My son (3, almost 4) has gone through a succession
of 'loveys', but all animals of some sort. His biggest thing 
seems to be the tag on the thing. In fact, he abandoned his
Bert doll when he wore the tag off, and it has now also happened
to his Ernie doll. Anyway, those of you with blanket 'loveys' are
very lucky!!
                              Patti Twigg
From: joanne@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Joanne Petersen)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:20:55 GMT
Subject: Re: duplicate baby blankets
Organization: Hewlett-Packard PAITC Data Center
Newsgroups: misc.kids

What age do children select a lovey?  My daughter is 2-1/2 and I've yet to
find anything that she simply HAS to have -- except her pacifier when she
goes to sleep!  Does that count?!  She'll play with all her different toys
and books and sleeps with any blankets..... no special ones there!
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Subject: Re: God's family values
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:57:51 GMT
Reply-To: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA

In article <aidler.714030781@sanjuan>, aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) 
writes:
> It would be negligent for us as parents to not
> teach our children the truth to they may 
> choose happiness throughout their lives.

Here we go again.  Prejudicial, judgmental, and calling non-xtian parents 
negligent.  And yet some still wonder what non-xtians find offensive in this 
type of stuff.




Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine)
Subject: Re: "Love" Triangle
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:13:21 GMT

I had yet another idea on this one.  Why not offer to start a babysitting
coop-type thing with your neighbors.  Make out coupons, etc., and have
the kids bring over the coupons when they come over.  Similarly, when 
your daughter goes over, she brings a coupon.  At the very least, when
your neighbors run out of coupons they may notice that you are watching
their kids far more often than they are watching yours.  And you don't
have to be obnoxious about it, just mention that you noticed that
sometimes they wanted some time to themselves without the kids, and
that is true of you too, and how would they like to start this 
arrangement ...

-- Misty
From: sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: microwaving breast milk
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:40:35 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <5664@transfer.stratus.com> amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Amy McNulty) writes:
>I saw this in the September '92 issue of "Health" magazine
>and thought it might be of interest to misc.kidders....
>
>
>Keep Baby's Milk out of the Microwave
>
>So gastroenterologist Richard Quan, who's now at the University of  
>Texas Southwestern Medical Center, and his colleagues used a microwave  
>to warm 22 samples of milk to temperatures averaging just 92.3 degrees  
>F, close to body temperature. They found that the activity of one type  
>of immunoglobulin-A antibody dropped by 79 percent. The activity of  
>lysozymes, which help break down bacteria, diminished 19 percent.

Well, I use formula these days, but I never heat the bottle anywhere near
92 degrees.  I take it from the fridge, microwave on half power for
30 seconds, shake, microwave on half power for 30 more seconds.  The
bottle ends up at about 60 degrees, I guess (not cold, but barely warm).
I don't think I get much in the way of hot spots.  Sure, if you heat
the whole bottle 60 seconds at full power with no shaking, you'll end
up with some pretty hot spots.  I would be interested to hear
HOW they used the microwave, not just THAT they used the microwave.
I would guess that my technique is pretty effective at avoiding hot
spots and would be fine for breast milk.  Besides, if you feed directly
from the breast 5 times a day, and heat frozen breast milk once or
twice, the baby is still going to get a lot of immuoglobulin-A etc.

My baby SCREAMS and arches his back the whole time the bottle is warming.
Even walking/rocking/jiggling doesn't calm him when he wants his bottle.
I can't imagine waiting any longer.
Of course, as other posters have mentioned, with powdered formula you can heat
the water and then mix in the formula.  This isn't a great idea at 3:00 am,
but would work at other times.

-- 
Susan Gauch
sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: dudding@sallyride.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kate Dudding)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Tom Chapin Review
Keywords: very enjoyable kids and parents singer/song writer
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:02:23 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

My family saw Tom Chapin perform for 40 minutes at Children's Day in Albany, NY
this past weekend.  We all enjoyed him tremendously (despite it being held
inside because of rain and the area was very noisy).  IMHO he has a wonderful
sense of humor, and he and his partner create very singable music.  Most of
the songs he did had a chorus that he taught to the crowd.  Here are two of
them (copyright by John Forster & Tom Chapin, Limousine Music Co. & The Last
Music Co. (ASCAP)):

Good garbage breaks down as it goes,
That's why it smells bad to your nose.
Bad garbage grows and grows and grows!
Garbage is supposed to decompose.

Cousins! Cousins! Here come the boys!     << Inspired by how his aunts and uncles
Bedlam, meyham, noise, noise, noise!      << must have felt when his family came
Blow up the air mattresses,               << to visit when he was a kid -- sung
Hide the breakable toys!                  << to a lively Irish-sounding tune
Cousins! Cousins! Here come the boys!

He also wrote this very lovely song (wish I could send the music out somehow):

This pretty planet,                        Golden sun coming down,
Spinning in space.                         Gentle blue giant spin us around,
You're a garden, you're a harbor,          All through the night,
You're a holy place.                       Safe till the morning light.

I hadn't heard of him, other than his appearances at Children's Day, so I thought
I'd share this info.  I've been listening and singing to one of his tapes on
the way to work yesterday and today -- great fun for me.

-- 
Kate Dudding                                   dudding@crd.ge.com
GE Corporate Research and Development
Bldg. KW, Room C315
PO Box 8, Schenectady, NY 12301                (518) 387-7164
From: lcp@uhifa.ifa.hawaii.edu (Lisa Paton)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: tipped uterus & getting pregnant
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:22:35 GMT
Reply-To: lcp@uhifa.ifa.hawaii.edu (Lisa Paton)
Organization: Institute For Astronomy, Hawaii


In article <1992Aug14.191906.2026@hern.stonemarche.org>,
brighid@hern.stonemarche.org writes:
> There's a lot of collective experience out there
> so I thought I'd ask for some net.advice. 
> 
> I've got a tipped uterus. (Luckily, not from
> endometreois.) And I want to have a child.
> Does anyone have any advice on getting pregnant
> quickly despite a tipped uterus?
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
> Brighid
> 
> brighid@hern.stonemarche.org
> 
I've got a tipped uterus and so does my mother.  I got pregnant on the very
first try (this was after being on the pill for ten years, no less).

My mother claims to have gotten pregnant in the first month of trying all
three times, even though the doctors told her she'd have a tough time.

Maybe a tipped uterus HELP's!!

Good Luck.

Lisa
Newsgroups: misc.kids