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From: teague@Apple.COM (Terry Teague)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: BBS Census '92
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:11:50 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

I recently received a piece of US Mail that maybe of interest to the BBS
community - some of you will probably receive the same mail.

I was sent a "BBS Census '92 form" by a entity that runs a BBS called
ModemNews EXPRESS!. It is a professional looking survey modelled along
the lines of the US census, and asks for the census to be filled in to
reflect the state of a BBS as of 1st September 1992. It is an attempt
to gather information about the state of telecommunications, online
services, and BBS's to give a better picture of the industry.

As well as being a printed piece, a machine-readable ASCII file is
available from their BBS, at (203) 359-2299, located in Stamford, CT, USA.

I encourage anyone that runs a BBS or is involved in telecommunications
in any way, to obtain a copy of the census (personal information will be
held in confidence, and I suggest if you have any doubts, simple don't
fill in the personal information area etc), and return it filled in.
I believe the industry can only benefit.

If someone located in Stamford would like to download that ASCII file
and make it available on the Internet, it would be appreciated.
Unfortunately at this time, it does not appear that these people are
on the Internet, and so you won't be able to contact them directly.
However if necessary, I or others may be willing to act as middle men.

Thank you for your time.
Regards, Terry Teague

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,alt.bbs.internet
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Major-BBS and TCP/IP ??
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:53:32 GMT

dhuber@autelca.ascom.ch (Daniel Huber) writes:

>Hi there

hello

>Is it possible to run TCP/IP (Telnet and FTP) concurrently (for login and
>data transfer) with the BBS?

I would assume that telnet would work fine -- ftp isn't used for
interactive bbs transfers -- it is used for connecting to a machine
running ftp in the server mode - so your ftp would be connected to
a ftp deamon on the other end

>What's about NCSA-Telnet?

that is a public domain telnet/ftp for DOS which 
works well

-- 
Larry Snyder
larry@gator.rn.com
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: shari@room.Princeton.EDU (Shari L. Landes)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:15:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.190628.3908@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>My guess is that they will standardize on rfc822 as a message format,
>with perhaps a few mods the way that rfc1036 modifies that standard.
>I think that's a positive move.

Standardizing message formats is a good idea...  but it's also impractical.
Standardizing just about anything regarding BBSs is pretty much impractical.
There are THOUSANDS of BBS writers, writing THOUSANDS of BBS programs.
Standardizing something on that scale is a pretty tough job.  When ANSI made
its standards, there were less 'un-standards' that had to 'convert.'  And still,
ANSI terminal emulation is not standard.  Many BBS programs - especially UNIX ones -
do not support ANSI graphics.

I'm half-writing my own BBS software, and if someone gives me a standard,  I'll
use it.  But until then, I'm making it configurable to fit certain formats that
are in my own and my user's needs.

Harlan Landes
Gates of Dawn BBS
609-426-1618

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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:20:27 GMT

From article <rdippold.714467855@cancun>, by rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold):
>>But they certainly DO represent BBS-for-profit, which I am ENTIRELY AGAINST.
> 
> The TBBS (eSoft) people and the PC-Board people, Mustang, and
> Galacticomm certainly, but all the rest?  Certainly not Mr.
> Searchlight.  Apple Computer?  Resnova?  Magee?  Datastorm?  All
> BBS-for-profiters?  I suspect that the reason all the big for-profit
> BBS companies were there because they were wanting to push their
> software at the BBSCON and could afford to send some people.  Mr.
> Amber has given an address at which anyone, including the non-profit
> types, can join.

	Speaking as a TBBS SysOp, I don't see the purpose of lumping them
into the "BBS for profit" catagory.  Yes you have to pay a pretty penny
for the software, and yes the capability for using credit cards and limiting
access to areas based on "billing classes" is there, but that doesn't mean
you have to use them.  In Vermont, there are 3 TBBS systems (I run 2 of them)
and none of them charge.  Of the TBBS systems I've called around the country,
maybe 50% ask for money (either in the form of a donation or actual
subscription service).

> 
 TTYL
 Chris

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From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:22:44 GMT
Organization: Fantasy, Incorporated: Reality None of Our Business.

70465.203@compuserve.com recently informed us:
>brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>
>Seriously, this looks suspiciously like an attempt to define a 
>standard to get rid of Fidonet and Usenet as competition to these
>*commercial* BBS's. 

Au contraire, as messaging gateways under development now are based
on, and fully compliant with RFC822 & 1036. 

-- 
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dream, you may be taken as mad. |                          | (805) 54-FUBAR
  I like my dream.              | Because all you of       | 3/12/24, MNP5, 8N1
Then you *are* mad!             | Earth are IDIOTS!!       | FSBBS 2/FSUUCP 1.3
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committ
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:21:00 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

bell@teal.csn.org (Bell Scott) writes:

>In article <1992Aug21.173208.3878@uvm.edu> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
...
>>	What about multi line systems as well?  I would say that DOS
>>and Unix based multi-line systems are pretty much equal in terms of raw
>>numbers...

>	Chris:  I have to disagree.  Nearly ALL Unix systems are multi-line.  If
>Unix systems outnumber MS-DOS su=ystems, then the same would logically apply to
>multi-line systems.

And IMHO, equality in numbers, doesn't mean equality in power. 

As I just said in another post, UNIX is based upon Dennis Ritchies
philosophy that the power of a system comes more from the
relationships amoung it's parts that the parts themselves. 

Even if there were 2 X more DOS multi-line systems, I doubt
they would have as much power as a network of UNIX systems (and I
mean hosts, not the users on those systems). 

But, IMHO, the OS is irrelevant. If you're providing communication
services, how well your machine is connected to others is important.
How many people it can support at the same time is important. And
how many tasks it can be running at the same time is important. 

Dave

--
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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: mwang@netcom.com ( )
Subject: help! how to set up a bbs?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 06:42:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

Hi folks! I am thinking of setting up a bbs and need some help
with :
           What are the laws regulating a bbs?
           What are the recommended software?
           What are the recommended hardware/speed/etc?
	   How do I get a multi-line phone #?
          
Any info/suggestions/help from any bbs hackers/guru/wiz
would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
Mike
From: root@dreaml.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: TEST
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:11:15 EDT

Re: TEST
By: jga #0 @wariat.org (Jon Anhold) USEnet      
 
> I apologize for this message, but it is necessary.
> -j (jga@dreaml.wariat.org)
> -- 
> * Jon Anhold * (jga@wariat.org) (...{uunet|backbone}!wariat!jga)

I also apologize for this message. Again, necessary. Please ignore.

-j
From: slewis@whitebase.ukp.com (Scott Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Wanted!
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 02:48:38 EDT
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

Can anybody email me a list of all UNIX BBS software that can be run under 
Coherant?  A list is good enough for starters, but if you have 
addresses/prices/features, and the like, I'd appreciate that as well.
 
Thanks in advance.

<< Scott Lewis >>

=================================================================
Internet Mail: slewis@whitebase.ukp.com | Captain, a Klingon does
 Fidonet Mail: Scott Lewis@1:107/407    | NOT play Tetris!
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From: boyd.naron@citylit.sac.ca.us (Boyd Naron)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: PCBFILER NEEDS
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: boyd.naron@citylit.sac.ca.us (Boyd Naron)
Organization: The City Lights PCBoard - Sacramento, CA - (916) 427-0324

In response to Eric Deal regarding his PCBfiler Clone:

Eric,

I'd like to see an intelligent Master File list maker which provides a
table of contents and clean printout.  This would be made even better if
it could build this list from within an event!

The .DIZ extraction would be great if you can ask that it check the
ENTIRE file collection or an individual file directory or just an
individual file.

Further, your filer would need file VIEW and re-ZIP capabilities.  In
other words, be able to take an .ARJ file and convert it to ZIP, add
your BBS comments etc.  The conversion would also need to support from
ZIP to other formats just in case a Sysop is using another compression
program other than ZIP as the standard for their BBS.

Testing for VIRUSs would also be a requirement of the re-ZIP utility
and would be nice as a stand-alone independent of the re-ZIP pgm.

Hope this helps.

        Boyd Naron
        boyd.naron@citylit.sac.ca.us
From: hmackln@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Hartley Macklin)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: RE: Attn PCBoard Sysops
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 10:30:27 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

A feature I would like to see in a PCBfiler program is, if there ISN'T a 
DIZ in the archive, but PCBOARD has a description for the uploader, to 
place the description into a DIZ inside the archive.

;--- (Hartley Macklin) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
;E-mail: hmackln@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: moran@lourie.und.ac.za (Craig Moran)
Subject: Seeking info on ViSiON BBS
Organization: Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:12:58 GMT

I have recently obtained a copy of the ViSiON BBS system. Unfortunately I have a rather old dubious version, It was distributed as Pascal source code, and seems unfinished. Does anybody have any information at all on this BBS system as it came without any documentation whatsoever. Any information reguarding this system would be appreciated. 
Thanks in advance.
Craig.

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Major-BBS and TCP/IP ??
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 10:42:11 GMT
Organization: Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

> dhuber@autelca.ascom.ch (Daniel Huber) writes:
> 
> >Hi there
> 
> hello
> 
> >Is it possible to run TCP/IP (Telnet and FTP) concurrently (for login and
> >data transfer) with the BBS?
> 
> I would assume that telnet would work fine -- ftp isn't used for
> interactive bbs transfers -- it is used for connecting to a machine
> running ftp in the server mode - so your ftp would be connected to
> a ftp deamon on the other end
> 
> >What's about NCSA-Telnet?
> 
> that is a public domain telnet/ftp for DOS which 
> works well
> 
 
 Chaps maybe you can help me here. I have ncsa-telnet here and have
 not been able to get it to work.  Can some-one suggest what is wrong
 here..
 
 The Hardware 
 
 Box one  : 40mhz 386dx   Mono-Vga
            Novell NE2000 ethernet card  Interupt : 9
                                         Address  : 0d5c
                                         i/o addr : 300

 Box two :  turbo xt  colour ega
            Novell NE1000 ethernet card  Interupt : 3
                                         Address  : 0d8b
                                         i/o addr : 300

 I can get not get either of these to even come up with the
 nsca menu let alone ALT-H for help.
 
 In config.tel I have redone the ne1000 and ne2000 line to
 match the above but when it runs telnet.bat it runs telbin
 gets to my ip line and then bounces the video off to nowhere.
 
 I tried changing the video lines, I have used setver on 386 to
 3.30 in order to make both box's os the same for telnet.
 
 After 4 hours yesterday I give up has anyone else had this problem
 with the _NE1000 and _NE2000 cards ? As I  suspect this is where
 the problem lies. I use the clarkson packet drives for these cards.
 
 Regards,

                                                  _
 Jon Clarke                                     o( )       
 jonc@status.gen.nz                            /  /\        GE: J.CLARKE6
 The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand      HSBC NZM  EBD
From: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: UUPCB
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:01:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Underground - PRIVATE
Reply-To: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 

Can some kind sole PLEASE email me the number/address/etc of
Ed Hopper's BBS.  The site for uuPCB.  Since he moved to atlanta
I lost the number.

Chris Nalley / copernicus%digund@coplex.com
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 . SLMR 2.1 . For A Hobby -- This SURE Is Getting EXPENSIVE!
 
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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Seeking information on BBSes dealing with Progressive Metal
Summary: I'm going to make a list for my digest readers...
Keywords: Queensryche, in particular
Date: 24 Aug 92 04:12:13 GMT
Reply-To: birchall@pilot.njin.net
Followup-To: alt.bbs
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

Greetings.

	I'm looking for information on [standard dial-in] bulletin board
systems [BBSes] which have discussion or file areas dedicated to progressive
metal music, in particular Queensryche.

	As the editor of the Queensryche net-digest, I'm already aware of a
few of these, but I'd like to find out whether there are more out there, as
many of my [500+] readers are avid BBS users.

	If you run a BBS which has such areas, run such areas on someone
else's BBS, or enter [yourself] materials into such areas, please send me
some e-mail.

	Thanks,
		'Ryche on,
				Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committ
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:32:08 GMT

From article <BtB38u.4y2@gator.rn.com>, by larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder):
> mr.mike@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Mr Mike)  writes:
> 
>>You would be in the minority then.  As far as the PC industry and
>>BBSing and Communications go...these are, in fact, the top in the
>>industry.
> 
> for DOS machines, maybe -- but DOS machines don't rule the
> world.  DOS machines make up the majority of single line BBS
> systems -- yes -- 
> 

	What about multi line systems as well?  I would say that DOS
and Unix based multi-line systems are pretty much equal in terms of raw
numbers...
 
 TTYL
 Chris
From: mtalbot@physics.adelaide.edu.au (David Bowman)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: BBS in Australia
Keywords: BBS Australia
Date: 15 Aug 92 06:45:01 GMT


	Could someone please, either e-mail me a list bbs in Australia, or
post such a list to the net?

	Thanks in advance.

		David Bowman

			1:4:9
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr)
Subject: Re: Amiga software
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:01:09 CDT


In article <1992Aug20.154257.29943@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 900377c@dragon.acadiau.ca (Robert Campbell) writes:
> Hi there. I'm trying to set up a BBS that will support multiple lines,
> FidoNet/Internet, and aliases on an Amiga. Do any of you have any suggestions
> for me? I have been using Falcon for the time being but I seem to ba having
> some problems with it. Thanks!
> 


    DLG Professional from TeleproTechnologies.  It can do ALL you wanted 
 above and MORE.  I switch to DLG from StarNet/Paragon and have been VERY
 HAPPY since.

    The Telepro people have Usenet and post to comp.sys.amiga.datacom on
 a regular basis.  I can give you the uucp address of Telelpro 
 Technologies if you are interested.

  Daniel Baehr

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:28:54 GMT

From article <1992Aug19.172645.21380@godzilla.quotron.com>, by sandy@godzilla.quotron.com (Sanford Zelkovitz):
> I know that I only "give" my XBBS code away; however, it sure would have been
> nice to be told that this "meeting" was even going to be held!

	Actually, until I read the original message last night, I didn't know
about either.  But the ONE con just got over Sunday, so....

>>>>14th at the ONE BBSCON in Denver, Colorado, in an unprecidented cooperative
>>> 
>>> 	Ahem, its 'unprecedented', and it's not.
>>
>>	Then where else has so many in the BBS industry agreed to this sort
>>of thing?  We're talking about the *BBS Industry*, not *Communications Industry*
>>as a whole.
> 
> What/which agreement????

	The agreement to form a "standards" commitee.

> 
> I am sure that I am not the only "bbs author" around that has not heard of
> ONE BBSCON. If I am, well........................

	Well, it has been heavily touted in Boardwatch magazine and also
in the Fidonet.  However, I'll admit I didn't see much mention of it on
the Usenet side of things...
 
 TTYL
 Chris

Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: mbarry@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshall Barry)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committee Formed
Organization: IBECC - A Non-Profit Educational/Scientific Corporation
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 11:21:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.053157.22062@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>And I really don't care what format people use internally on the BBSs.
>The prime interest is to get an exchange format.
>
>Though I would strong encourage BBS authors to get away from the
>concept of fixed fields with fixed-width values, if they want to
>do meaningful message exchange.

	Of course, being an OLD (grin) mainframer... I understand the
	"need" to feel like things are "fixed".  The amazing difference
	is that 5 years ago, people proposing variable length fields,
	requiring scanning and interpretation of contents and context
	, would have been shot for "excessive overhead" - i.e. slowing
	the damned thing down to a crawl.
	
	Now, most systems can handle the "overhead" without whimpering
	too much ... a couple of years from now, and who knows???
	
	Then again, I remember being involved in the original "telnet"
	protocols for arpa ... and wondering why in the blazes people 
	would worry about sending 9 bit data across a 24 bit link 
	to a machine that only handled it in chunks of 7 bits (grin).
 
// Mb // (wanna go kick an "IMP"?)
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Binkleyterm and Dallas Fax 14.4k modem...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:42:51 GMT

I'm having a problem running Binkleyterm (2.50) with a Dallas Fax 14.4k 
modem.  When in unattended mode, BT will not recognize the "ring" signals
sent by the modem, and will therefore never answer the phone... but in
Terminal mode, the "ring"s appear onscreen.  When exiting unattended mode
(into terminal mode) after the phone has been ringing, all the "ring"s will
appear onscreen at once... as if they BT was ignoring the modem before.

Has anyone else had this problem?  And if you solved it, could you please 
send me a config file?
-- 
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   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: shari@room.Princeton.EDU (Shari L. Landes)
Subject: Re: Netsex.
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:35:41 GMT

In article <Bt5B5y.LqD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>Is there an anon ftp site that has a recent version of netsex on it?  The one
>I have now (2 years old) locks up... i'm assuming it doesn't like my
>config.dat.
>
>Netsex is a program that translates mail and posts between WWIV and Fidonet 
>formats.

I believe the latest version of Net Sex is 1.00 ... I might be wrong.
Contact 1@5252 WWIVnet (Filo)...  He seems to be the resident expert on
WWIV <-> Fidonet software including "How to run Front Door with WWIV"...
and Net Sex.

Harlan Landes
Gates of Dawn BBS  -- Automatic SysOp Validation
+1 609 426 1618
1@6916 WWIVnet / 1@1 Trinet / 1@6900 Icenet (forthcoming)

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