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From: cary@carina.unm.edu (Ithlial the Archer)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ley Lines
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:47:55 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <63861@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Deep Thinkers: Please let me throw in a few occult facts here
>to stretch your brains. It has been said that the human life consists
>of 2,700,000,000 heatbeats. People with slower heartbeats usually live
>longer. I figured mine out and it came to 75 years. Turtles and elephants
>live longer because their hearts beat slower. Planets heartbeat (they vary of
>course) is about 27,000 years. The earth's heart beat is about 24 to 26
>thousand years so how long will it last. It's been around for 4.5 billion
>years already.

So what happens when a planet 'dies,' does is spontaneously disintegrate
or what?  What about stars?  How about some references for these
claims of planetary 'heartbeats'?

>The next item is the fact that our scientists many years ago
>proved by putting bronze stakes in the earth and measuring the depth of 
>earth around the stakes that cosmic dust and other things are settleing
>on the earth at a rate of one foot every thousand years.-----JW

This is hardly a startling revelation, any decent astronomy text/book
will point this out.

Ithlial

My opinions, mine, mine, mine!

I bet the main reason the police keep people away from a plane crash 
is they don't want anybody walking in and lying down in the crash 
stuff, then, when some comes up, act like they just woke up and go, 
"What, was THAT?!"
  
  
 
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From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mysterious Happening
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:43:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <16sgtaINNpl@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> dangaio@cats.ucsc.edu (The One Who 
Mu
st Be Kept) writes:
>
>
>about two weeks ago, my father and i had an interesting encounter...

Verrry interesting...

>i had woken up, something highly unusual unto itself, and gone in search of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sign #1

>these big windows on the wall facing ne/e ish direction.. the windows are
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sign #2
>
>anywho- we met there and were standing there near the windows.
						
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sign #3 - I remember mentioning elsewhere here, they really do
prefer the windows.
						
.. half dazed in that state when you wkae up that you're awake 
but not really concious...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sign #4 
 an intense light shining in on us.. the angle it was coming in at
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sign #5 - and really the thing that makes this experience something
out of the ordinary. Yet for some people, over a million in the US
 in fact, these are things they have encountered as well...

You know, I'm not going to interprete your experience for you, and 
I assume you are telling the truth, so I'm not going to question you
veracity...

I have been reading Secret Life (about abductions)
 for the last few days, and had a heavy dose of Deja Vu just now...
 I don't think I have to say much more than that. 

You have all the classic signs, and this is about as much as
most people remember until they are hypnotised, according to over 60
cases recounted in this book.

You may want to remember the rest and you may not. But you should consider
the possibility that there was much more to this than you remember right
now.

Jeff-
From: Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: MEN IN BLACK
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:07:42 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Forrie Aldrich writes:
> |          Our U.S. government is now cooperating with the Sirians; and the
> |      question was asked,  what is the power that the entire government has
> |      to go along with them? They have weapon sources, (I must
> |      circumspect...) that are believed by the powers on this planet, to be
> |      absolutely dominating. In other words, the government believes they
> |      are looking down the barrel  of a very big gun. The Sirians are in the
> |      second dimension soon to go into the third.  We are in the third, soon
> |      to go into the fourth. The sirians are trying to prevent us from going
> |      into the fourth dimension.
> [ ... ]


Wow, those are pretty stupid aliens if they can't get out of the second
dimension.  Amazing, secret FLAT aliens!  Two-dimensional!  Let's hope they get
some height to go along with their width and length soon, they must get annoyed
when everyone steps on them all the time.

Jeremy "My SIG can't get out of the second dimension either, so it got cut off"


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From: Michael.Blackwell@f869.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Michael Blackwell)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: execute the messenge
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:30:00 +1000

 RS> In article <1992Jul31.154025.12809@odin.corp.sgi.com> 
 RS> rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith) writes:
 >to
 >>dominate over  the darkness.Well like I said , I never wake up but that
 >>morning I woke out of a dead sleep & sat strait UP! Looked out of the
 >>screen door to see to my amazement
 >>7-10' creature standing about 5-6' away......staring at me.I could not
 
 >speculation. I was fully awake genius. I can tell the difference between
 >reality & a dream,although I don't think you will wake up from your
 >personal nightmare!
 >
 >From the evidence I have seen sir,you are not a skeptic.......but a person
 >who will deny anything that does not fit into the glass house you call
 >reality.The day might come where a rock might be thrown in your general
 >direction.....are you ready? As the glass shatters & crumbles around you,
 >will you hold together or put a gun to your head? Only time will
 >tell...........
                 [stuff deleted]
 RS> the insolence to suggest that you may have experienced a
 RS> perfectly-normal physiological effect, i.e. dream imagery lingering a
 RS> brief while into wakefulness. Before you go off threatening those who
                 [stuff deleted]
 RS> any reliable book on Lucid Dreaming for more on the hypnogogic and
 RS> hypnopompic states. You do not seem to realize that distinguishing the
 RS> "dream state" from "reality" is a continuing challenge in Lucid Dream
 RS> research. 

 RS> Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com

Agree in total there with you. Having experienced very _heavy_ trips the
blurry line between dream & non dream is very wide. Of course the classic
answer is .....as you mind was freed from earthly bonds the Aliens(tm) could
comunicate with you easier.

Seems it is easier to believe in Santa than accept that presents are
put at the end of your bed by mummy & daddy.

Michael

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From: dfs30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Denise Solis)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ley Lines
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:55:57 GMT
Reply-To: dfs30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Denise Solis)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <64357@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>             I'll leave you with this saying; A pessimist is a woman
>     who thinks she'll be unable to fit her car into a certain
>     space.  An optimist is a man who thinks she won't try.


OK John, I can out up with your weird stories but now you're getting
sexist.
By the way, how many times is the show with Gloria and Al going to
repeat? What an embarassment! Al is not an alien and Gloria is not
a channel. I know these people and IMHO they are phoney.

For those of you in the bay area who get Heritage cable, John hosts
a tv show called Science Faction. Its on channel 2B (community channel)
on Tuesdays at 5:30pm and Thursdays at 9:30pm. Gloria and Al are mother
and son who came to two of my UFO Group meetings and decided to become
overnight authorities. Al claims to be an incarnate alien. And Gloria
suddenly started channeling all my info and saying an alien gave it to
her.She even told the veiwers it was her group and gave out her home
number. Well, our group unanimously decided not to invite them back.
Just filling you in so I don't get verbally beat up for sending
personal mail.

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From: Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:01:21 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <64290@cup.portal.com>
> Posted: 19 Aug 92 13:33:19 GMT
> 
> Org.  : The Portal System (TM)
> 
> Dear Kibo K. or whoever you are: I read the information about Kibo and it
> doesn't make much sense to me. Sometimes I think things are getting away from
> me. Please be advised that today (wednesday 1100) is the fourth or
> fifth running of the weekly Astral OOBE Sweepstakes. It's got to where
> you can't identify anyone without a scorecard. Happy travels to you.
> John Winston.


I don't think anything makes much sense to you.  It was nice of you to take my
suggestion and stop posting each message in little chunks, but did you have to
mail me back five times???

(EVIL .SIG MUTILATION FOLLOWS)

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Moon Activities?y
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 20:44:27 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <35063.226927623@kcbbs.gen.nz> <1992Aug14.130443.23583@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>

---One of the places that Buck was taken was a ten mile long bridge
on the Moon. There is a crater near Mare Crisium and Mare Illium that
can be seen by telescope best during the first 3 days of a new moon.
At this time the shadows are just right so the bridge can be seen
using a refractor type telescope using from 60 to 120 power. Many 
people like to mine rock from the moon because it has not broken down
into gravel and soil as it has on most other planets. This bridge covers
a crater 10 miles across and the people doing the mining use vehicles 
that hover about 3 feet or less off the ground, so it is better for them
to go over the bridge to get from one side to the  other. A shift of work
is about 3 hours.  That is why the lights come on and then off. John Winston
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From: swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren)
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:22:41 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: aliens,invasion,stollman
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <jg0m+la.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
                             ...
>downtown, and started speaking to someone...She was right in the middle of
>the conversation, when suddenly, she looked right at me and shouted, "Do
>you know Carol Lewis!!??"...I was startled and told her no...Then she
                             ...
I think that Gary is trying to tell us that he has gone through the
looking glass.  And it's all the fault of Carol Lewis.

Are these postings riddles, Gary?
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From: dangaio@cats.ucsc.edu (The One Who Must Be Kept)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Mysterious Happening
Date: 19 Aug 1992 03:58:34 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



about two weeks ago, my father and i had an interesting encounter...

i had woken up, something highly unusual unto itself, and gone in search of
some food.. my dad had woken up and headed for the... hell i dont know where
he was headed, doesnt matter... anyway we met in the living room. and we have
these big windows on the wall facing ne/e ish direction.. the windows are
on an outside wall of the house and there is a small clearing outside it.. 
about 50 feet from the window on the other side the cleaing is a tall stnad
of redwood trees. (seqouia) note that there was no moon that night.. i checked.
no moon that could have done this anyway.

anywho- we met there and were standing there near the windows... half dazed in
that state when you wkae up that you're awake but not really concious...
there was an intense light shining in on us.. the angle it was coming in at 
placed the light source below the tops of the trees so it had to be between the 
house and the the trees. from the angle i calculated later that the object was
probably about 15 ft off the ground, about 25-30 ft away.. we saw no visible
source or object that emitted the light.. and it was far too bright ot be a 
flashlight or headlight... (we live in the middle of nowhere).. and there was
no noise that would identify a helicopter or such... then after i began to
seriously wonder what the hell it was, it vanished.. just *poof* gone...

without a trace... nothing on the ground, no marks. nothing... pretty fucking
weird if you ask me... i'm wondering if anything similar has happened to
anyone else or if anyone has some explanations for this..

 - Tom Fox

    - Searching for female vmapire, if you are one or know one. let me know
From: ma1248378@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Moon Activities?
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:05:10 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore

In article <139502.2A79E0E1@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>, Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) writes:
> 
>  > Someone posted earlier about lights on the moon and a bridge thing
>  > happening
>  > about 30 years ago.  Even though this is about 10 years before my time,
>  > I
>  > still read about it.  I also heard, about little 'domes' appearing upon
>  > the
>  > moon's face around Plato, around this time.  Does anyone have any
>  > further
>  > info, ie. was any reason found for these sightings?
> 
> I believe you are referring to what is known as Lunar Transient Anomalies 
> (LTA).  NASA compiled a paper about this listing the various observations 
> that go back a couple of hundred years about people observing strange light 
> activity on the moon.  However, it has been theorized that the light 
> phenomena seen there may be volcanic activity.  The report from NASA is 
> interesting.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --  
> Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
> UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
> INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG




    Well if NASA said that, then NASA certainly has a good sense of humor

    Volcanic activity on moon? Hah! How about this for a change. 

  
    An oasis in the middle of a huge crater where there are beautiful

    women welcoming the arrival of our astronauts.




                                                  Tickle Me Pink!!!!!!!!
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From: kivaman@milton.u.washington.edu (Mark Hammergren)
Subject: Re: THE NATURE OF REALITY
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:11:14 GMT

jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau) writes:

>...
>If it was the work of the US government, why wouldn't they raise the cattel
>themselves? Much cheaper than flying multimillion dollar helicopters
>around, which is the ONLY possible "other" explaination for all of this.
>...

If it IS the work of aliens, why don't they raise the cattle THEMSELVES?
Much cheaper than flying spacecraft dozens of light years...

Just my 2 credits worth...
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From: rmwaugh@nyx.cs.du.edu (go on go on)
Subject: Re: Gary Stollman For President...
Summary: jst w0ndering 
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Keywords: sex sex sex sex kibo sex sex job sex sex sex enema
Organization: The Fondation For the Elimination of the letter ' '.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 06:30:27 GMT

ThIs Is my formaL reqesT for The posITIon of MInsTer of Enema's...
If yo wILL noTIce I am very weLL qaLIfIed, I keep my LeGs crossed,
I remap my keys when I feeL sexaLLy arosed, and I am proTesTInG The
se of The LeTTer ...  I am aLso a memBer of The fondaTIon for The eLImInaTIon
of The LeTTer ' '... Thank yo very mch for yor TIme and fInGernaIL cLIppInGs,
They wILL Go on my refrIGeraTor once I fIGre oT where IT ran off To... I Gess
I shoLd have LIsTened when They ToLd me To Go caTch IT... 


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From: kivaman@milton.u.washington.edu (Mark Hammergren)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Happening
Keywords: military helicopters lights
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:52:33 GMT

In a previous article  hal@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Hal Wadleigh) writes:

>The descriptions all sound like they were in California, and they all sound
>like incidents involving helicopters.  The newer generation of military
>helicopters are so quiet in "whisper" mode that you simply would not believe
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>it without seeing a demonstration.  Some police agencies have similar
>"civilianized" equipment.  It's even spreading to "normal" civilian systems
>who have to deal with noise complaints.

Methinks someone has been watching too much "Blue Thunder" lately.

All right, here's the damn smiley..  :-)

Mark Hammergren
kivaman@u.washington.edu

I can't believe I'm posting to alt.alien.visitors AGAIN!
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From: timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Moon Activities?y
Reply-To: timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:04:43 GMT


In article <35063.226927623@kcbbs.gen.nz>, Robert_Sutton@kcbbs.gen.nz (Robert Sutton) writes:

|>randolph@est.enet.dec.com(Tom Randolph) 10 AUG 92 10:31:28GMT  types...
|>>It's widely believed that the monks did in fact witness a large meteor 
|>>impacting the moon.Is that so unbelievable?.I'll post references if 
|>>you like.
|>
|>Well it pretty much doesexpand the horizon of my boggle threshold
|>as I wonder if the Apollo LEVAs wore those suits because the air was 
|>toxic to humans.Maybe it was a kind of Total Recall in reverse.
|>

	HUH!  "wore those suits because the air was toxic to humans"

	what the hell are you talking about.  the way I read the above 
	is that you think the moon has an atmosphere!!!!  How old are you?
	
	Steve Food_for_the_Grays



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From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Crop Circles?
Date: 17 Aug 92 06:49:29 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <1992Aug14.231649.21560@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> arpowell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Aimee Powell) writes:
>
>Before I go, one more thing:  Why is it up to me to prove
>the more plausible of the two explanations?  Should we *not*
>believe more easily that the circles are hoaxes, when we have
>evidence to support that claim, rather than believe that an alien
>(or other) force is at work, when we have absolutely NO evidence
>for that at all?
>

That's the point.  You jump on the assertation that some, if not
all of the circles are hoaxes.  Then, you jump to the conclusion that
since you can safely rule out some of them, they must all be the same.

That's the kind of 'scientific' logic that created spontaneous generation,
vital spirits, and bleeding with leeches.

I'm not saying that they weren't all created by fraudulent means.
I'm saying that I'm keeping my options open.  I'm not going to
make a judgement here.  I don't 'believe' that some of the crop circles
were created by aliens in spaceships.  I have read statements that
distinguish between the circles created by two men confessing to a hoax
and circles with entirely different characteristics.  I have read
of circles created in the '50's, well before the confessing hoaxters
were to have started their games...

I'm not ready to lay my money down on the table.

Rick


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From: Rickie.A.Slater@dartmouth.edu (Rickie A. Slater)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Crop Circles?
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:26:50 GMT
 <1992Aug7.181652.26139@acd4.acd.com> 
 <1992Aug8.065811.3941@cco.caltech.edu> <3246@bcstec.ca.boeing.com>  
 <1992Aug10.070053.22751@cco.caltech.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

>kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek) writes:

>I doubt that any aliens or government people would have created such >circles. There is no reason for it.  

Try realizing that there is more that you don't know than there is that
you do know. Most reasons are beyond our comprehension.

>Why land in the middle of crops, making a stange formation that will get >people suspicious when you could easily land in some other place that would >leave no such "evidence."

If you had work to do in a place where no one could overpower or
influence you would you really care what kind of impression you made,
on the planet surface or on the inhabitants lives?
  
>Come on, there is much more convicing evidence than these hozx formations.

Evidence shmevidence, I want the air ship I saw flying along power
lines one night with no lights on and without making a sound.

Rick
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