HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: correction on New Biker
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:02:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 3877@megatek.com, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.152613.25437@athena.mit.edu> madhatta@plume.mit.edu (Tom Yates) writes:
>|In article <BzErFq.DJ9@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>|>And in future years, these "firemen" will move on from cars and take to
>|>burning books.
>|
>|too late, blaine, it's already documented.
>|
>|the book?  Interstate 451.
>
>  Uh... Tom...  Wasn't that _Fahrenheit 451_?  Or did I miss some subtle joke?

Good one, Randy!  You both identified and missed the joke in the same
line!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: tjohnson@anyway.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:12:58 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@anyway.UUCP
Organization: Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1992Dec22.195442.18021@colorado.edu> laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>In article <carlp.725046075@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>>cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>>>$24, ditto, but *plus* shipping. I won't pay for handling, though,
>>>unless I also receive videotape of same.
>
>>Now bidding $25, Jody can decide whether that includes shipping or
>>not, other conditions as previously specified.
>now bidding $26
>
>laz

All;

	This thread easily dominates the most deplorable, immature, sexist, senseless,
childish, moronic, useless, waste-of-bandwidth, and anal-retentive category here at
rec.motorcycles. Don't you people have better things to do than fantise about owning
some womans brazier?? Get a grip on your sexuality will you?? This is ridiculous.

I bid $29;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol"

P.S. Is this brazier black??

P.S. Front or back Snaps??
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Active Noise Cancellation (was Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list))
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:55:32 GMT

In article <75856@apple.apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:
>fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>
>>a gizmo that they can hook a string to. After it is set up
>>they remove them and connect them with a nylon string. From
>>reading about them they are in the $40.00 range (I think).
>>Someone over on rec.guns got a pair made. Said they are
>>comfortable as can be 
>
>I'd think it would take a while to get used to a nylon string
>running between my ears...

Yeah, but my mom always said I should use mental floss daily.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
                Celebrate the winter holiday of your choice by
                  offering your hand to someone who needs it.
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:51:20 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1992Dec27.000527.7718@cerritos.edu> tanner@cerritos.edu writes:

>How many motorcycles have a sensor that detects horizontality and shuts
>off the fuel and ignition?

>The one on my bike is set to activate at 49 degrees.  I assume at that point
>the designers said "you lost it, buddy".

This seems to me to be one of those things that, at first glance, sound like
a good idea, but further thought reveals potential problems.  For example,
can this sensor be fooled by sudden and vigorous banking, so that if one is
"throwing it around" in the canyon, one might suddenly find that one's bike
decides that you've "lost it", thus causing a needless incident due to an
unanticipated loss of power.  Or, perhaps this sensor has a failure mode that
makes it appear that the bike is constantly on its side, and refuse to start.

I suppose it just brands me as an old geezer, but I still prefer bikes that
don't try to outguess me with systems such as this, vacuum activated petcocks,
and etc.

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Application for DoD Membership
Summary: Pfhtphtphtpht!
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 13:30:07 GMT

In article <1723@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>		I would like to make a formal request for DoD
>		membership....
>					Ryan...

Pfhtphtphtphtpht <!!>

And if cows could fly, you'd have it made!

	I would like to make a formal request that Ryan be awarded 
	the newbie question of the week (NQotW) award.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Application for DoD Membership
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 21:16:53 GMT

In article <1767@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>
>	Please No more FAQs...I am getting my mail reader filled...well
>	not really, but I have received sufficient info concerning the
>	DoD. 
>			
>							Thanks...
>
>								Ryan

Your next task grasshopper, is to find the one character change in each of
the FAQ's that were sent to you.  Find these changes and report back to the
KotC, identifying each change with the person who sent that copy of the FAQ
to you.  Please include the DoD# for each sender.

Upon successfully completing this task, you will be given your next 
assignment.

You have until midnight tonight.

Good luck.

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC 
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 3 
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Guilt is the love of staying stuck.

                                          Hugh Prather
From: wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Update: Them winter woes and blues...
Date: 31 Dec 92 08:30:59 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Well, I caught the varmit ! ! ! I set out one of these traps that pins the
animal in a cage. Was it a rat ? No, it was a oppussum ! ! ! The little sucker
had ate the rat poison and it didn't kill him (or her or it or who knows ;-) It
seems I had a rather large hole behind a workbench in the garage that it was
coming and going out of. So the hole is sealed and the Wing is safe, or at
least I hope she's safe as I hadn't checked on the wiring. Oppussums....it
still looked like a rat with a thyroid problem ;-)

-=-= Wes =-=-
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:38:43 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <1992Dec20.203146.20705@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
}Without getting into a discussion of the biochemicalmechanics of yeast 
}infections, that's like vacuuming your office chair to avoid catching
}a cold. Who dreams up these ideas....

Why, a licensed medical doctor from our beloved and much-admired
American Medical Association, of course! What better source could
there be for such silliness?

Obmoto: I'm going to try to check out a Hawk GT (NT650) for the hell
of it tomorrow, but unless I get compelling arguments otherwise I'm
going for the Seca II. Cast your votes/give your advice soon!
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Them winter woes and blues
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:43:20 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

> Well, I guess that's what I get for parking the bike for the winter (yeah, ye
> I know, who parks the bike for the winter ;-) Anyway, I went out to check on
> her last week and a damn rat (I say rat because the amount and size of the
> turds around the center stand had to be a rat, not mouse) had chewed up my
> cover over the bike. So I check around the garage for tell tale signs of a ra
> nest and find zip, nada, nothing ! ! So I figure, ok, I'll get those nice
> blocks of rat poison and place all eight of them around the bike. So last nig
> I went to check on the bike and found more rat turds, but ALL eight of the
> poison blocks were gone ! Now what gives ? ? This sucker immune to rat poison
> or some super rat ? So now my plan of attack is another type of poison and a
> large varmit trap. If I catch that sucker, he will wish he had never seen a
> goldwing ! If it's not the cagers trying to kill ya, it's the varmits eating 
> your wiring. No justice for the winter blues !
> 
> -=-=- Wes =-=-


At least you've got a real "rat-bike", unlike some of those H-D copycats 
I've seen................



Robert Smits Ladysmith BC  | Why do Englishmen drink warm beer?
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca      | They all have Lucas refrigerators.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: The Hooter Holder Challenge
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:36:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.191848.4663@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <carlp.725509903@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>>rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
>>
>>>Enough of this penny ante crap. $50. That's right, the big 5-0. Enough
>>>to take somebody out to dinner at a place where they might even like you
>>>to wear a long sleeve shirt. Enough to see the movies, twice, with a
>>>friend. Enough to buy the oil for a change on your bike. 
>>
>>>Uh - hey guys? What did I just buy? And is the money going to some good
>>>charity? I haven't exactly been keeping up with this thread.....
>>
>>If Mr. Lawrence is making a sincere bid here, I concede and bid no further.
>>
>>If he's joshing, posing, or otherwise not serious, my bid is now $39.
>>
>>
>
>He's trying to intimidate you Carl. Bid $51. Bid $51.
>Go big C. Go big C. L-E-T-S-G-O GGGgggggooooOOOOOOOOOO big C.
>You can do it Carl. I'm rootin fer ya.
>Don't be a mamby pamby.

Okay, time for everyone else to kick in.

This is, after all, a fundraiser, not a lingerie sale.

So, I'm offering a challenge:
	I will match, dollar for dollar, anything bid in excess of $50,
	up to $20 total.  In other words, if the winning bid is $51,
	I'll kick in another $1 towards the cause.  If the winning bid
	is $70, I'll send Jody a check for $20US.
	Note that the matching challenge does _not_ apply towards your bid;
	it is a contribution _after_ the winner is determined.

	In addition, if the winning bid exceeds $100, I'll add another $10.

I challenge all bidders to reach these levels, and all non-bidders who
don't want to buy a bra to add to the matching fund, with whatever
obscure rules or formulae you wish to devise.

To the bidders:  Remember, the winner gets not one, but two loving cups!  :')


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
                Celebrate the winter holiday of your choice by
                  offering your hand to someone who needs it.
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Date: 29 Dec 1992 22:13:46 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <RTsiwB1w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>And the courts have held for decades (centuries, probably) that you're 
>legally responsible for taking reasonable steps to prevent children (who 
>are not legally competent to make decisions) from access to an 
>"attractive nuisance". 

Fine.

But the original letter to Dear Abby was directed toward parents (who 
probably aren't legally competent to have children) who let their 
children play around on parked Gold Wings, or even get in on the act 
themselves.

Dear Abby instead used this opportunity to pontificate about the tremendous
social responsibility of owning a motorcycle.  (After all, anyone who has
seen _The Wild One_ knows they're all a bunch of troublemakers anyway.)


-- 
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                                        INTERNET: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu
From: kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Keith Chu)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast. Why? What is your experience?
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:00:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Metzeler suggested 33 front and 35 rear for my EX500 with 33laser
front and a 99 rear.

Keith
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 14:37:13 GMT

In article <1hbnu7INNoib@agate.berkeley.edu> delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:
>In article <1h5n4vINNneu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant) writes:
>>In a previous article, delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) says:
>>
>>>I do not wish to be involved in this in any way, thank you
>>>-- 
>>>Lisa DeLorme                            
>>
>>
>>	Aha - I a knew some of them would get embarassed sooner or later.
>>Why would anybody be ashamed of having their hooter holder closely inspected
>>by some biker goon they've never met?
>>-- 
>>Go fast. Take chances.
>>
>>	Mike S.
>
>No, it's not embarassment, it just became painfully obvious that if this 
>were to go on much longer, I was going to have to hear about stuff like
>"hooter holders"
>Guess I'm too late.....

And you expect them to stop with that, huh?


>Lisa
>Denizen with the delicate ears

Ectually, Lisa - in deference to your plainly spoken sensibilities, the
item being auctioned in this thread has been changed, the auction is now
for Jody's backyard charcoal grill.

Haven't you noticed?


>Lisa DeLorme                            
>delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
>DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
>                    Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff

            {  Friends don't let friends [add comment of choice]  }

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:18:47 GMT

>> 
>> There was no smiley.  My question was serious.  How come he
>> falls down so much?
>> 
>> If the answer is "he races a lot, pushes the outer edge a lot,
>> and he crashes a couple of times a year" then I'll pay more
>> attention to him than if the answer is "he drinks a lot, and
>> can't handle the bike he rides".
>
>I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
>There is a saying from my other sport:
>"It takes seven falls to make a rider."

    Granny said it all, note sig. below.


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        "Sony, if you don't fall on yer ass once in a while,
         you aint ridin' fast enough"
                        Grandmother, to Ed Kretz, 1946
================================================================


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:21:23 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <C03DzF.DB7@cs.uiuc.edu>, ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward) writes:
|> FRAHM@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU (Joel A. Frahm) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <1992Dec19.021153.14804@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell) writes:
|> >>From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
|> >>Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide?
|> >>Date: 19 Dec 92 02:11:53 GMT
|> >>In article <BzB0BH.51K@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> crmoorle@napier.uwaterloo.ca writes:
|> >>
|> >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|> >>	"The only substitute for cubic inches is more cubic inches"
|> >>			Racer Brown  1954
|> >>=====================================================================
|> 
|> I thought it was: "There's no replacement for displacment."
|> 
|> -- 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Chris T. Ward  DoD#0710   "Don't take life too seriously, you can never come
|>                            out of it alive."  -?
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------  

i thought it was "inches are everything".

axel
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sport Bikes
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:44:45 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	Spout and sport confused...hmmm any job openings for Spout
	Casters??  Spouts Illustrated...the news magazine for Gutter
	repairmen and roofers.  Hmmm...  ABC's Wide World of Spouts...

	I guess this could go on for a while...

				Ryan
				I want a Spout Bike...yea...


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:49:05 GMT

crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston) writes:

>Another case where just one warning would suffice: this device should not be
>used by anyone stupid.


  The only problem with this (which I think is great) is that I have never met
a stupid person who know's (s)he is stupid.

  'Duh, I'm an idiot, so's I better not use this high speed chain thingy to
   clear those big 'ol trees away from the 'lectircal line...'

  :-) :-) :-) :-)

-Matth
--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Nice Quote
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 14:06:23 GMT

_Obsessions Die Hard - Motorcycling the Pan American Highway's Darien Gap_
by Ed Culbertson (~250p)
ISBN 0-937281-04-2 	$11.95
TeakWood Press, Kissimmee, Florida
order desk: 800/654-0403

A most excellent adventure book about the first motorcycle crossing of the
dreaded Darien Gap of the Pan American Highway in the swamps of Panama and
Columbia.  Ed did it with (and often ON) an R80G/S.  I recommend the book
highly.  I received and read it all on Christmas Day.  It contained the
following quote which I felt worthy of sharing with my fellow Doers of Deeds:


"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.  The credit 
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust
and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and
again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself
in a worthy cause, who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of great 
achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring
greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who
know neither victory nor defeat." - T. Roosevelt (Panama, 1906)
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Paint
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.151554.21321@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>I am doing a minimum-dollar restoration of my RZ350, which
>suffers from some crash-induced plastic damage.  I have
>fiberglassed, filled, sanded, and primed all of the damaged
>parts, but am having a bit of trouble finding appropriate
>paint for the job.  I want to use acrylic lacquer, and
>I would rather mask and paint the decal areas than try to
>find replacement decals.  Which means I need to find a
>particular shade of metallic red, pearl white, and dark
>blue.  
>
>None of the paint stores in the area have the exact colors 
>stocked, and for some reason, as soon as they see motorcycle 
>parts, they decide they are too busy to mix me some colors.
>
>Would anyone have a clue as to where I could get the right
>colors?  I like the stock appearance, else I would just 
>repaint the whole thing a new color, and besides, some of
>the peices only need touch-up; a total repainting would be
>WAY more work.)  Yamaha can't sell me the stock paint, and
>anyway they wouldn't have the blue, as that's a decal.
>
>I have access to a spray outfit and booth, and have some
>experience, so I'm just looking for the paint.
>
>Clues?
>

If it's a true pearl, it's done with a pearl additive. Very expensive 
stuff, about $75 for a couple ounces last time I checked. Spot painting and
blending metallics, if a fairly large flake, doesn't work very well. I
suggest you repaint at least to a natural break in contour, such as a sharp
crease or edge of a panel. This break in continuity helps disguise the 
touched up area. Find a supplier for House of Color or Metalflake products.
They can get what you need, but be prepared for sticker shock.

Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles