HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: roe2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Cave Newt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: New Zip and UnZip for VMS soon....
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:36:02 GMT
Reply-To: roe2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:

>UnZip v4.2 was released about three weeks ago.  Zip v2.0 was supposed
>to be released the first week of April, but that has been delayed.  I
>still plan to package the two together and post them to vmsnet.sources
>(as well as make them available from my file server) as soon as the
>new version of Zip is released.

Hunter, Zip 2.0 won't be released for several more weeks, probably, 
and when it is, UnZip 5.0 will be released, too.  So you may as well
make UnZip 4.2 available now--it fixes a lot of the VMS problems which 
exist in 4.1.

Greg Roelofs
From: yoly@vax2.concordia.ca (YOLY YOUNG, MANAGER SOFTWARE GROUP)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: need ROSS RDB site
Keywords: ROSS, RDB
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:43:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I would like to contact other ROSS sites with the RDB version of their 
software.  The intention is basically to compare notes and possibly get a
few answers to some of our questions.  If you are such a site, then I would 
very much like to talk to you.  I may be contacted in any form 
indicated in my signature, after which I will contact you by phone.
Thank you in advance.
===========================================================================
Yoly Young                        e-mail: yoly@vax2.concordia.ca
Concordia University              voice:  (514) 848-7620
Computing Services                fax:    (514) 848-7622
1440 St. Catherine Str.
Montreal, Quebec
From: Wenker@dcal.unine.ch (Laurent Wenker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: FLIGHT for VMS ftp site ?
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:56:26 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

Hi !

I've downlaod the new version of FLIGHT from wuarchive.wustl.edu and install
it without any problem. (it's very nice to have all the DECUS tapes there,
thank you !)

I've read somewhere that this version of FLIGHT comes with a lot of world.
But I don't find them in this distribution. As I come from Switzerland, I'm
very interessed by "flighing" on my own contry. I'm sure that map for
Switzerland exist, I saw it at DECUS last year.

So, can someone write me where I can find it ?

-- 
Laurent Wenker                      +-----+
University of Neuchatel            /     /
Chantemerle 20                    /     /
2007 Neuchatel                   /     /   +---+   +   +---+----
Switzerland                     /     /     \   \ / \ /   /
E-Mail : wenker@dcal.unine.ch  /     /       \   \   /   /
                              +-----+---------+---+-+---+---------
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: brett@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Brett Morrow at University of Oklahoma)
Subject: DecWindows and Mac X
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:57:00 GMT

Sorry is this has been asked before, I am new to this group.

I am running Mac x to attach to a VLC 4000 running Decwindows.  I remember
there was a problem with fonts.  I am having a problem with not the right
fronts.  Does anyone have any suggestion or info on font mathing with 
Macx  and Decwindows?


  Any help appretiated.



  Thank you
    Brett Morrow

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Internet=>   Brett@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu      +     Brett Morrow
Bitnet  =>   Brett@uokucsvx                     +Computer Lab Specialist     
            University Of Oklahoma - University Computing Services 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: horn@shsu.edu (James T. Horn)
Subject: Using UCX to NFS MOUNT internet drive
Organization: Sam Houston State University, Huntsville, Texas
Reply-To: horn@shsu.edu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:52:43 GMT

    I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of how
    I might mount an NFS drive remotely using UCX. 

    The situation is we want to mount some NFS drives on a remote
    system on our VAXstation 4000/VLS using UCX. I cannot find any
    information in the manuals for doing such a thing.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
James T. Horn                                     =        _   /| 
Coordinator, VMS Systems                          =        \'o.O`  
Sam Houston State University                      =        =(___)= 
Internet : horn@Oliver.shsu.edu                   =           U   
                                                  =     Bill The Cat     
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From: sedrez@icad.puc-rio.br (Paulo F. Sedrez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re:  Tek window under DECwindows?
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:20:20 GMT
Organization: The Internet

In article Tue, 7 Apr 1992, Bilal A. Bhutta
<ulowell!woods.ulowell.edu!bhuttam@UUNET.UU.NET> writes :

>    Is there a way to open a Tektronix 4010/4014 window in DECwindows? I looked
> through the help utility but to no avail. Now a dump question: A program which
> draws in a Tek window, can it be fooled into drawing in a VT340 window, without
> changing the program? I know that the drawing in done by escape codes, but don't
> know if the codes for the two terminals are different.

You can try the xterm program: press CONTROL and click the middle button of the
mouse, then select 'Switch to Tek mode'; it opens a larger window that
emulates the Tektronix 4014 terminal.
You can't use the same program in a VT340 window: the escape codes are
complettely diferent, altought the actual VT340 terminal can emulate the
Tektronix 4014.


				Paulo F. Sedrez
				Rio, 09/04/1992

-------
Paulo Francisco Sedrez				sedrez@icad.puc-rio.br
TeCGraf/PUC-Rio
Rua Marques de Sao Vicente 225, Anexo RDC
22453 Rio de Janeiro RJ, Brasil			(021) 529-9424
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From: DAN@OJC.Colorado.EDU (The kook!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMS viruses/trojan horses
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:34:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Has anybody heard of any VMS viruses or trojan horses infecting anybody's
system??  Does anybody know of any VMS anti-viral programs??  The reason I'm
asking is because I've been pulling programs off of some of the servers out
there and one says:  "...users should be aware of potential trojan horses - DO
NOT TEST SOFTWARE ON PRIVILEGED ACCOUNTS!", but some of the programs I received
can only be run with privileged accounts and I really don't want to mess up our
system.  Just thought I'd ask before I ran anything.  Any help would be
appreciated.


vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
 \ Dan Hartless                          | "Three degrees proved too much   /
   \ Student Programmer                  | for John Dillon.  He got the   /
    \ Otero Junior College               | first degree at Harvard, the  /
      \ La Junta, CO                     | second degree at Yale, and  /
       \ Internet:  Dan@OJC.Colorado.edu | the third degree at the    /
         \                               | police station."         /
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: tapp@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca (Bob Tapp)
Subject: Re: Phone number for PRINTRONIX??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: tapp@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca
Organization: UVic, Physics & Astronomy, Victoria, BC
Distribution:  world
Date: 14 APR 92 12:56:05    

In article <6E7BDE86A37FC012D5@ALBION.BITNET>, SYS@ALBION.BITNET ("I haven't lost my mind....its backed up on tape somewhere") writes...

>        Does anyone have a current phone # for PRINTRONIX?  All I have is a
>manual with a 10 year old number.

I reached them in 1989 at (714) 863-1900.
From: lobssuth@fig.citib.com (Lou Obssuth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: exe$epid_to_pcb
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:15:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: fig.1992Apr9.151500.3999
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Originator: lobssuth@swcdev


   Does exe$epid_to_pcb still exist?

   Can it be called from vax c.


	thanks
From: greenie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: DECWindows/X-Windows/Speeds
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:56:55 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Say there folks!

Can anyone tell me how "interchangeable" DECWindows is with regular X-Windows?
I'm new to the entire concept of X-Windows, but I'm under the impression that
I can run DECWindows stuff on an X-Terminal and also Unix stuff on the same
terminal?  The processing is done on the other machine but the output shows up
remote terminal?

For non-graphics intensive applications, how does the speed rate over standard
Ethernet lines?  I mean, say we just wanted to have a few text windows to allow
folks to tyupe things in, etc (IE, we're not doing 3-d soild modeling or
anything :-)  Would that be bearable?  How about if it were over 256kb lines?

Any RFC's that folks could point me to to further educate me, as well?

Thanks for the info, it's much appreciated...!

Andy, greenie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
From: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Dumping DECserver disses Doug
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:27:06 GMT
Reply-To: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu
Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park

It's Friday, it's a pay day, it's 70 degrees outside, the coeds are...

ANYways, I come in to find that the power cycled last night. And both my
LAT terminal servers spitting out messsages every minute and a half like
this:
****************************************************************
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  10-APR-1992 14:22:01.29  %%%%%%%%%%%    (from node KING  
at
 10-APR-1992 14:22:01.07)
Message from user DECNET on KING
DECnet event 0.3, automatic line service
From node 1.1 (KING), 10-APR-1992 14:22:01.05
Circuit QNA-0, Dump, Requested, Node = 1.12 (PAGE2)
File = SYS$COMMON:[DECSERVER]PSDMP7168.SYS, Ethernet address =
08-00-2B-04-71-68

%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  10-APR-1992 14:22:06.29  %%%%%%%%%%%    (from node KING  
at
 10-APR-1992 14:22:06.07)
Message from user DECNET on KING
DECnet event 0.3, automatic line service
From node 1.1 (KING), 10-APR-1992 14:22:05.58
Circuit QNA-0, Dump, Successful, Node = 1.12 (PAGE2)
File = SYS$COMMON:[DECSERVER]PSDMP7168.SYS, Ethernet address =
08-00-2B-04-71-68
*********************************************************

It also requests a: 
**************************************************************************
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  10-APR-1992 14:22:25.87  %%%%%%%%%%%    (from node KING  
at
 10-APR-1992 14:22:25.65)
Message from user DECNET on KING
DECnet event 0.3, automatic line service
From node 1.1 (KING), 10-APR-1992 14:22:21.50
Circuit QNA-0, Load, Successful, Node = 1.12 (PAGE2)
File = MOM$SYSTEM_SOFTID:PS0801ENG, Operating system
Ethernet address = 08-00-2B-04-71-68
************************************************************************

I've tried my usual bag of power-cycle tricks (unplug DECserver. Plug DECserver
back in. Reboot boot server) and no dice. 

I don't know that much about NCP, so I guess I'll turn in my VMS System
Manager's Union card back to Ehud...

Any suggestions? I find it difficult to believe that both DECservers fried at
once, so I suspect it's a software thing. I also had to do some NCP stuff to
get one of my satellites recognized....

				In search of a clue,
				wishing this had happened on MONDAY...
		
					Doug

	
  For a country which has exported more comedians to the States than any
  other place on earth, the Canadians have very humorless grad students.
  -- >                  SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU                        < --
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From: lhotka@abel.incstar.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sysmgt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Computer Integrated Manufacturing mailing list
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:33:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: abel.2792.29eb0952
Organization: INCSTAR Corp, Stillwater MN

Announcing a new mailing list for discussions about

		COMPUTER INTEGRATED MANUFACTURING


The list's purpose is to provide a forum for discussion about topics
related to the use of computers in manufacturing.  Discussions may cover
hardware, software, process flow and control, MRP, JIT, cost accounting,
scheduling, etc.

INCSTAR Corp is a manufacturer of medical test kits and is a user of ASK's
MANMAN software running on VAX/VMS.  As host for this mailing list, INCSTAR
hopes to foster discussions about the use of computers in manufacturing on
all levels, from the manufacturer's viewpoint as well as from the MIS
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To subscribe to this mailing list, send a one line message with the word
'SUBSCRIBE' in the body of the message to:

	l-cim-request@adam.incstar.com

or send a one line message with the words 'SUBSCRIBE L-CIM' in the body of
the message to:

	LISTSERV@adam.incstar.com

Please direct any correspondence dealing with the list to 
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 Rockford Lhotka                                INCSTAR Corp
 Applications Project Leader                    1990 Industrial Blvd
 lhotka@incstar.com                             PO Box 285
 612/779-1701                                   Stillwater, MN 55082
From: mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMS5.4 and X11R4
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:53:55 GMT
Reply-To: mvbr@se.alcbel.be
Organization: Alcatel Bell Telephone


--
VMS 5.5 is shipped with X11 release 4. Can I run the DECWINDOWS and MOTIF 
release of VMS 5.5 on VMS 5.4 ? It is because we need X11R4 on VMS but are 
worried about the rumours that VMS 5.5 is not yet bug free in order to run 
safely. The configurations I am talking about are LAVC with 1 and 2 bootmembers.
If someone can confirm that VMS 5.5 does not causes serious troubles, we are 
happy too, and will upgrade.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Marc Verbruggen                 tel : 03.240.94.19
Alcatel Bell Telephone          fax : 03.240.99.50
F. Wellesplein 1                email : mvbr@se.alcbel.be
B-2018 Antwerp
Belgium
 
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:8212 vmsnet.sources.d:308
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sources.d
Subject: Once more: Supervisor Series V5.1-1 available now
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:46:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: wkuvx1.1992Apr11.114630.1305
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

OK, last post on this for a while! 8-)

I've just made v5.1-1 of the Supervisor Series available from
FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET and from ftp.spc.edu.  This package of terminal
monitoring utilities includes ADVISOR, OBSERVER, and PHOTO (not the
same PHOTO that uses pseudo-terminal drivers).

This version fixes the problems I posted about the other day: the
OBSERVE CLD file has been fixed, ADVISOR and OBSERVER look for
SECURITY as an *enabled* privilege, not just authorized, and the
images are installed with the correct privs.

The *main* reason I released v5.1-1 is because Dan Shoop informed me
that Security Pacific had actually released a v5.1 to some customers
before placing the product in the public domain.  Their v5.1 is *not*
the same as the one I'm supporting now, so I'm calling mine v5.1-1 to
avoid any possible confusion.

If you picked up SUPERVISOR from FILESERV, I mailed you an upgrade kit
that will upgrade you from v5.1 to v5.1-1.  If you picked it up via
anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu, you can get SUPSER_UPGRADE1051.BCK_Z
from there to upgrade.

The v5.1 SUPERVISOR kit in both places has been replaced with the new
version.  *IF* you haven't already picked it up, requesting SUPERVISOR
or getting SUPERVISOR.BCK_Z will get you v5.1-1 and no upgrade kit is
necessary.

NOTE: THE UPGRADE KIT REPLACES ALL THE FILES NECESSARY TO BRING YOU TO
V5.1-1.  IF YOU'VE ALREADY REQUESTED SUPERVISOR FROM MY FILESERV, IT
IS NOT NECESSARY TO GET IT AGAIN.

I would also like to point out that MultiNet NTY devices can be
advised, in addition to the others named in the release notes.

SUPERVISOR v5.1-1 can be retrieved by sending the following command in
the body of a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

SEND SUPERVISOR
SEND FILESERV_TOOLS

If you have access to ftp, it's available from ftp.spc.edu in
directory [.MACRO32.SAVESETS]SUPERVISOR.BCK_Z.  Note that you'll need
the LZDCMP.EXE program in [.MACRO32] to decompress the saveset.

Thanks for your patience during all of this!  If you want to join the
Supervisor Series mailing list, send the following command in the
body of a mail message to LISTSERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

SUBSCRIBE SUPSER-L "Your real name"

Hunter
------
Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University
goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
From: rand@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Request for EWS v1.1 software
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:03:04 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA

In article <1992Apr2.163323.7933@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, rarback@bnlux1.bnl.gov (harvey rarback) writes:
> In reading the Release Notes for DECwindows Motif, I discover that my VT1300
> will break unless I first upgrade to EWS 1.1.   My salesperson is hiding again,
> so I wonder if anybody knows where I can get the media for EWS v1.1 in a hurry?

Call DEC Direct and order one of the following v1 -> v1.1 update kits:

QA-YWRAA-H5	EWS/VMS		TK50
QA-YWRAA-HM	EWS/VMS		MAGTAPE
QA-YWRAB-H5	EWS/ULTRIX	TK50
QA-YWRAB-HM	EWS/ULTRIX	MAGTAPE

Rand P. Hall, System Janitor, Merrimack College, North Andover, Massachusetts
Internet: rand@merrimack.edu, rand@lucy.merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Using non-Decwindows Debugger on Decwindows/Motif Terminal Window
From: sands@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Greg Sands)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:07:12 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.
Keywords: VMS

yates@wctdpv.gd.com (Jeff Yates (619)547-4726) writes:

>Does anyone know how to force VMS to use the Non-Decwindows/Motif Debugger 
>while being started from a such a terminal window?  

If you define the logical dbg$decw$display such that it is null i.e.

    DEFINE DBG$DECW$DISPLAY " "

then the ordinary text mode debugger will be started.


Greg
-- 

Greg Sands.
-----------
Department of Engineering Science
From: GUDURU@TSU.BITNET (Mahesh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: MAIL PROBLEM WITH BITNET
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:25:45 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:29 MULTINET_TIMEZONE

HI
we have two users on our system with usernames taylor001, taylor002,
the problem is whenever user taylor002 receives mail from other site
it is received by taylor001 but NOT vice versa.
I would appreciate if somebody have any suggestions or idea's about
this problem.
please e-mail your respones to guduru@tsu.bitnet
thanks in advance.
mahesh
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Command line with VMS C
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:32:20 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany

Hi everyone,

I have recently compiled, linked and run a little C program under VMS:

$ CC program
$ LINK program
$ RUN program

Since I do not normally program under VMS, I did this following some
instructions from a friend of mine. Everything seems to work ok, but
I can't figure how to pass a command line to my program. The "RUN"
command obviously cannot be persuaded into accepting anyting like a
command line.
So my question is: What do I have to do in order to enable a user to
run my program and give it a command line at the same time?

Thanx in advance and apologies if this is a silly question,

 +- Jan Kim ----------- X.400:    S=kim;OU=vax;O=mpiz-koeln;P=mpg;A=dbp;C=de -+
 |                      Internet: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de               |
 |                                                                            |
 *-------=<  hierarchical systems are for files, not for humans  >=-----------*
From: holliday@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Glenn Holliday)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMS Profiling (Summary)
Summary: VAXset suggested
Keywords: VAX VMS profile
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:21:54 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA


	Thanks for the responses to my query about profiling on VMS.  Many
people suggested PCA, part of VAXset.  The powers that be tell me we aren't
likely to have the money for VAXset, but I'm pursuing that possibility.
	I also got suggestions for IMON, by Bear Computer Systems.

Glenn Holliday             ghollid@access.nswc.navy.mil
Computer Sciences Corporation
From: rolff@vms.eurokom.ie (Anders Rolff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: IOEXPRESS & VMS 5.4-3 mem mgr conflicts
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:41:18 GMT
Organization: EuroKom Conferencing Service

Netlanders,

After upgrading VMS 5.4 to VMS 5.4-3 on a machine with a lot of memory
and running IOEXPRESS 1.2c, and enabling the proactive memory reclaim 
algorithms in VMS 5.4-3 I notice that eventhough the free list is in the 
region of 14000 pages, VMS 5.4-3 trims large processes working set.

After reading the release notes to VMS 5.4-3 I gather that VMS will shrink
processes when the size of the free list is less than FREEGOAL * 2,
on my machine 8192 * 2 = 16384.

The IOEXPRESS parameter to control the minimum free list size before it
starts trimming it's cache, MEMORY_CRISES, is by default set to
FREEGOAL + MPW_HILIM + 1024. FREEGOAL on my machine is 8192, and 
MPW_HILIM is 4915. MEMORY_CRISES will be set to 14131.

Now, IOEXPRESS will grab memory as long as there is 14131 pages of
available memory left. At the same time, VMS will try to keep
16384 pages free. So, to give IOEXPRESS the memory VMS will start
trimming processes. When VMS starts trimming processes, IOEXPRESS
will use more memory, etc, etc, etc.

So, to avoid unnecessary paging on your machine I would recommend
you to adjust IOEXPRESS parameters MEMORY_CRISES, ALLOCATION_LIMIT,
and TRIM_GOAL to values above FREEGOAL * 2, or decrease SYSGEN
parameter FREEGOAL to achieve the same thing.

Anders.
From: haddad@vaxwrk.enet.dec.com (Bruce E. Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Using non-Decwindows Debugger on Decwindows/Motif Terminal Window
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:13:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <8APR199209263207@wctdpv.gd.com>, yates@wctdpv.gd.com (Jeff Yates (619)547-4726) writes...
>Does anyone know how to force VMS to use the Non-Decwindows/Motif Debugger 
>while being started from a such a terminal window?  I use a VT-1200 which 


Jeff,

Define DBG$DECW$DISPLAY to " ".  That is - define it to be a space and you
should avoid the windows debugger.

Bruce
From: dongray@cdclu1.genrad.com (Derek Dongray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to make a disk unbootable?
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:27:16 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>  Problem  : Had VMS 5.3 running on DUA3. Built VMS 5.5 on DUB5. Now when
>             I do a "b" to boot I always boot from DUA3. I want to keep
>             DUA3 around for a while so I can't take it offline.
>
>  Question : How do I make DUA3 "unbootable"? I spent all morning with
>             TFM and could only find out how to make it bootable.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Ed Herderick (eeh+@osu.edu)

The simple answer is, you can't unless you delete/rename the system
directories. The Boot ROM in the MVII searches for a bootable system on
removable disk devices, then non-removable, then tape, then PROM. It always
searches in ascending controller/unit order so will find a bootable DUA3 before
it finds DUB5.

You can force a boot from DUB5 by typing "B DUB5" and the console prompt
(">>>")  but any automatic reboot will go to DUA3 unless you delete/rename the
directories DUA3:[000000]SYS0.DIR and DUA3:[000000]SYSEXE.DIR. This, of course,
renders it *totally* unbootable. You can't then do "B DUA3".

Derek Dongray, Systems Manager,     InterNet:   Dongray@cdclu1.GenRad.com
GenRad Ltd,                         UKnet:      Derek.Dongray@GenRad.co.uk
Monmouth House, Monmouth Road,      PSS:        234261600119::Dongray
Cheadle Hulme,                      CompuServe: 70374,2745
Cheshire, SK8 7AY, UK.              Voice:      +44 (61) 486 1511