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From: earlsie@think.com (Mike Earls)
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace,rec.music.makers.bass,rec.music.makers.guitar,ne.forsale,
Subject: FOR SALE: AMPEG V-48 HEAD, MARSHALL VALVESTATE,
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:13:01 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: quicksilver.think.com


========================== AMPEG V-48 BASS HEAD =============================
		   Tube. 100 Watts into 8, 4, or 2 Ohms

=========================== $125 or best offer ==============================


======================== MARSHALL 8080 VALVESTATE ===========================
	      80 Watt, 1x12 Combo. Tube Preamp, two channels,
	      effects loop, reverb. Barely used -a great amp,
		       but I no longer play guitar!

=========================== $400 or best offer ==============================

Call Mike at:	(617) 234-3242 --days
		(617) 254-7571 --eves

or just email me.  I live in the Boston area and would prefer to not to
have to mail these.  Thanks.				     
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: mjk31124@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mikester )
Subject: WANTED:  Naked Eyes CD...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:53:30 GMT


Looking for "Naked Eyes" the first album on CD or
the hard-to-get-now "Greatest Hits Vol 1 &/or 2...

Specifically looking for songs: "Always something there
to remind me"... and "Promises Promises"...

Will settle for singles if on cd or cd3...
Info or actual item will be appriciated...

---Mike
(mjk31124@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace,ba.forsale,ba.market.misc,ba.music
From: caesar@leland.Stanford.EDU (christopher perez)
Subject: DRUMS FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 21:04:47 GMT



For Sale: drum set, complete with hardware and cymbals, $500 obo

It's a 5-piece Tama SwingStar, great condition, cool shiny metalic
color, three toms (two plus one floor tom), one Zildjian crash cymbal,
one great-sounding Paiste heavy ride cymbal, high-hat, snare, and kick.

Everything's working and ready to play.  The set has a really full sound.
Great deal for the money.

Please reply via e-mail to drum@mensch.stanford.edu






Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: millia@athena.cs.uga.edu (David W. Millians)
Subject: Shostakovich Boxed Set. Brodsky quartet. Great sound. 
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:37:54 GMT

It's a 5 disc set of all of his quartets. One of my favorite recordings.
However, I bought the Manhattan SQ recordings, and I don't really need
both. $50+shipping of say, $4.00. These are in perfect condition, too.
Thanks. Reply via e-mail, please.
-- 
David W. Millians. millia@athena.cs.uga.edu or @moe.coe.uga.edu
87 more days until the Braves get to kick some more NL butt.
[Baseball] is a game with increasingly heightened anticipation of
increasingly limited action. John Updike, "A Prayer for Owen Meany"
From: connelly@key.amdahl.com (John Connelly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
Subject: DAT & Music Equip For Sale
Keywords: DAT, Mixer, mics
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:42:46 GMT
Reply-To: connelly@key.amdahl.com
Followup-To: connelly@key.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

FOR SALE:       - Tascam DA-30 Digital Audio Tape recorder
                  full industrial DAT machine: 32, 44.1, 48KHz
                  AES/EBU, coaxial digital ins/outs
                  RCA, XLR analog ins/out
                  6 months old, hardly used
                  wired remote control
                  Bought new for $1100. Selling for $750 obo.
              
                - Peavey 12 channel mixer
                  XLR inputs on all 12 channels
                  Gain, 3 band EQ, 4 aux sends per channel
                  Like new, $300

                - Various mics: Shure SM58s - $60
                                shure SM57s - $40
                - Cables, accessories, etc $3 ea.

I'd prefer not to ship anything, but will if necessary. San Jose CA location.

                email connelly@key.amdahl.com
                phone (510) 623-2153 days
                      (408) 926-9264 eves
From: system@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Re: [* Columbia House stuff *]
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 04:01:44 PST
Reply-To: system@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari) writes:

>
>         Just out of curiosity... what happens when you've expired your 3
> year contract, and you still have to perchase some albums, and haven't,
> AND don't pay the balance...???
>
>                         just out of curiosity, of course...

'Day send down Vinnie, and he breaka's your legs!'

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ system@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
From: lg20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Linda C. Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Billie Holiday CDs
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:38:55 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I have the 2 CD set "Billie Holiday: The Complete Decca Recordings".  I
listened to 1 CD once.  Columbia charged about $24 for the set.  I'd
like to sell it for $12.

Thanks for your interest.

Linda
lg20@andrew
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Subject: FOR SALE:  Music Videos
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:13:17 GMT

i have the following music videos for sale:

duran duran - decade - $15
adam ant - antics in the forbidden zone - $15
ultravox - the collection - $25

leave e-mail

yours,m

Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: happy@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Rusty Soots)
Subject: Cd for sale
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:09:46 GMT

  I'm selling the motion picture soundtrack for "Ghostbusters II" on cd.
This is a good album including some stuff by Bobby Brown and others.
First request, first sell.  Buyer pays shipping...should be fairly cheap.

							Rusty
"People often have more determination in their eyes than energy in
 their bodies."  R. Soots
NCSU - SED+SMB+GN - *********************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Subject: Re: Columbia House & BMG numbers
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:31:40 GMT

In article <Jan.6.17.06.14.1993.2639@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu> boubez@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu (Toufic Boubez) writes:
>Hi There. I'm looking for the 800 numbers of the BMG and Columbia House CD
>clubs. I know the BMG number was (800) WAMADEU, but it's not there anymore.
>I tried calling (800) 555-1212 but there are no listings of either places.
>Does anybody have phone numbers for them? Thanks.

I got these numbers from the rec.music.cd newsgroup: 
 
	Columbia House
	Orders:           (800) 328-4100
	Customer service: (800) 457-0500
	                  (812) 466-8125
 
	BMG
	Orders and customer service: (317) 542-0414

Your welcome.
-Roy

Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: wwc56110@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Techno Disciple)
Subject: TECHNO CD'S FOR SALE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:40:40 GMT

Various       Mental Detergent     Techno CD compilation   $13+postage
Church of Extacy   Devil Beats     Techno CD single        $7 +postage
Transformer 2 Pacific Symphony     Techno CD single        $7 +postage

If interested in any of the above, e-mail me.

					Techno Disciple
					wwc56110@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Subject: Dave Clark 5
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:03:48 GMT

I'll pay for copies of all Dave Clark 5 albums on a
tape.....Anybody???????

-- 
Thank You Very Much  
Joel 
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: orbe@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za (Ana Orbe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
Subject: FOR SALE - DRUM MACHINE
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:08:33 GMT
Organization: University of Natal
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc026.cc.unp.ac.za

ROLAND CR80 HUMAN RYTHM PLAYER
R1500 NEG.
EXCELLENT PRESETS
GOOD SAMPLED DRUM SOUNDS

ANA
Newsgroups: rec.music.marketplace
From: constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino)
Subject: Discs for Sale
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 02:08:51 GMT


$7 a piece, 3 for $20. Shipping included.

Area
         Fragments Of The Morning                       CD
                on C'est la Mort records. very 4ad-ish.

Bel Canto
         Birds Of Passage                               CD
                on Nettwerk. also very Cocteau Twins/4ad-like

Holst
         The Planets/The Perfect Fool                   CD
                classical...

David J
         Songs From Another Season                      CD
                the guy from Bauhaus/Love and Rockets

LaTour
         LaTour                                         CD
                shameless top 40 techno.

Pankow
         Gisela                                         CD
                Wax Trax industrial.

Various
         Don't Techno for an Answer                     CD
                techno compilation.

Darryl Way
         Under The Soft                                 CD
                ambient stuff.

Tino
-- 
     "Here are the young men, the weight on their shoulders..." - J.D.
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From: drmljg@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
Subject: Piano Litterature
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:48:26 EST

	
	I was just walking past the Music Department building on campus
and chanced to hear a young student practicing his Chopin. If I hear
Chopin one more time I will scream! It is truly abhorent that in 1993
piano performance majors must still plod through the same old stuff that
their teachers did, and their teacher's teacher, ad infinatum. Do you mean
to tell me that in the last 100 years no on has written anything that is
equally valuable? I think not.

	Yes, Chopin knew the piano, but I am sure that many composers in 
this century know the piano and write for it beautifully...so why then the
almost pathological emphasis on music from 1750 to 1900? And the same goes
for the "classical" music played on the radio and in concert halls. What this
amounts to is a wholesale conspiracy to ignore music that has been
composed this century!

	And one would think that if anyone would appreciate contemporary
classical music, it would be the college music professor; yet what do they
force their students to learn...the same tired, old selection of a handful
of pieces!

	Yes, a great work of art will stand the test of time, and there is
much great beauty in Chopin; yet I think there is something else going on
here, a kind of sick preoccupation/obsession with music from the 1800's. 
Which preoccupation in turn denies the value of contemporary musical ex-
pression. How can the performer of today call themselves artists? The music
they play isn't art; it's a strange cult that worships a dead art form.

        Music departments that teach young musicians to participate in this
cult are a sham!

Laurence Galian


	
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From: alasnik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik)
Subject: Finale IBM version 2.2 here!!!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 08:21:42 GMT


Hi folks!

I just read off of a Prodigy bulletin board that Finale version 2.2 is here!
Apparently, the main differences are that the Sound Blaster is now supported
for playback, and secondly, Midi is active in Enhanced Mode of Windows.

It's my understanding that this upgrade is free if downloaded from Compu$erve,
and costs $10 if ordered direct from Coda music software.

Supposedly, all registered owners of the software have or will have received
letters noting this upgrade.  Has anyone gotten one of these letters?  Since
the Evanston Post Office manages to lose about 10% of my mail, I always worry
about what I'm not getting <sigh>

But anyways, I apologize that I really know no more than what I've posted here
about the Finale version 2.2, but I thought many of you would appreciate even
that basic news :-)

If anyone hears anymore details, kindly drop me a note, or if you feel it's of
public interest, post it :-)

Thanks.

--ADAM "KEYS" LASNIK from Northwestern University
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
Subject: Re: Music Copying
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:25:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.compose
 <1993Jan11.204915.11062@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> <1993Jan11.213728.11312@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <1993Jan11.213728.11312@zip.eecs.umich.edu>,
fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields) wrote:
> 
> Lots of computer programs make neat graphics, but few make useable music
> notation. 

				I have very little experience with anything except the VERY limited
capabilities of DMCS, but I'm interested in getting to know a better
program, and have been resigned to sitting down and plowing through
the Finale tutorials BUT! Last week I was at the Macworld Expo and picked
up a copy of the latest edition (just out in fact) of the "Mac Music &
Sound Bible" by Christopher Yavelow (a massive tome, cost me about $40,
but looks to be worth it). I haven't had time to go through much of the
book yet, but the chapter on music notation contains a fairly thorough
review of many (if not all) music notation programs for the mac, listing
strong points, weak points, special features, hard-coded notation errors,
and presents a number of nice charts showing a comparison of features
at a glance. The most interesting part was the review of the soon-to-be
released Nightengale program - according to the review, it's supposed to
be nearly as powerful as Finale and much easier to use - I hope this is
true, as last I heard we're supposed to get a beta test version here very
soon. Anybody else have any info/experience/opinions on Nightengale?

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From: fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields)
Subject: Re: academia, power, priveledge...
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:50:11 GMT

In article <1i5i0oINN96n@mozz.unh.edu> dvf@kepler.unh.edu (David V Feldman) writes:
>In a sketch, this is what I would mean by ``teaching composition.''
>Taken literally, this may be a category error - the actual scene of
>composition is usually very remote from the lesson.

And the actual scene of proving a new, exciting theorem, or
designing a new painting or sculpture, or writing a new poem
may be quite remote from the respective lesson.

I don't think your linguistic apologies are needed at all.
From: dvf@kepler.unh.edu (David V Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
Subject: Re: Advances in composition
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:15:32 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <1993Jan4.175808.13140@zip.eecs.umich.edu> fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields) writes:
>In article <1i5kbfINN9qs@mozz.unh.edu> dvf@kepler.unh.edu (David V Feldman) writes:
>>In article <1hvr6oINNkf@calvin.usc.edu> alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves) writes:
>>>David V. Feldman writes:
>>>>(William Alves) writes:
>
>This is one of those tricky notions.  If I work out a 4-part
>harmonization by the drudgery of deafly following rules, but have no
>idea how it will sound, or if I choose some pitches based on a
>symmetry that I discussed with an algebraicist when we met in the
>hall--with no concept of sound in my mind, in either of these cases
>the concept of something "outside" the music might be appropriate.

Here is my view:  Perhaps what the algebraist had in mind was
``extra-musical'' because it simply wasn't music at all *in her mind*.
But as soon as you start organizing musical materials by means of
those algebraic ideas, those algebraic ideas become musical ideas.
(Indeed they may be the sole determininant of the sound structure
you produce.)  The point revolves around your phrase ``concept of sound
in my mind.''  In the narrow sense, this would me that the music you
are producing has been preaudited - this would exclude much indeterminate
music from the category *music*, and that seems unacceptable.

David



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From: xxrich@alliant1.lerc.nasa.gov (Rich Rinehart)
Subject: Re: Finale IBM version 2.2 here!!!
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:36:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.082142.4810@news.acns.nwu.edu> alasnik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik) writes:
>I just read off of a Prodigy bulletin board that Finale version 2.2 is here!
>Apparently, the main differences are that the Sound Blaster is now supported
>for playback, and secondly, Midi is active in Enhanced Mode of Windows.
>
>Supposedly, all registered owners of the software have or will have received
>letters noting this upgrade.  Has anyone gotten one of these letters?  Since
>the Evanston Post Office manages to lose about 10% of my mail, I always worry
>about what I'm not getting <sigh>
>
>But anyways, I apologize that I really know no more than what I've posted here
>about the Finale version 2.2, but I thought many of you would appreciate even
>that basic news :-)
>
>If anyone hears anymore details, kindly drop me a note, or if you feel it's of
>public interest, post it :-)


Haven't gotten the letter but I called them last Friday.  The only new stuff
is as you stated, Sound Blaster and Enhanced Mode midi support.  Hopefully,
version 3.X will be out soon with much more (I know I'm counting on it toast
bread and mix bloody mary's...).
-rich

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From: dvf@kepler.unh.edu (David V Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
Subject: Re: academia, power, priveledge...
Date: 3 Jan 1993 02:11:36 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Concerning the subject of whether composing can be taught:
The student composer is already composing - the issue, if any, is how well.
The composition teacher - if competent and serious of purpose - listens to
and thinks hard about what the student is doing and then uses her or his
experience to deepen the student's process.  This may mean pointing out
missed opportunities, systematically opening up realms of possibility,
forcing the student to confront weaknesses, in her or his music, in the
students musical abilities, in the concentration and self-criticism that the
student is bringing to her or his work.  The student, for her or his part,
selectively synthesizes aspects of the teacher's sensibility with her or
his own, thereby expanding her or his range, deepening her or his standards,
shedding her or his prejudices.

In a sketch, this is what I would mean by ``teaching composition.''
Taken literally, this may be a category error - the actual scene of
composition is usually very remote from the lesson. (By constract, 
if one is learning to play an instrument, playing usually goes on at the 
lesson.)  So if I want to be pedantic, I would say that what can be taught
is a (hopefully deep) understanding of music from a generative viewpoint.

David
From: gpg@astrix.Eng.Sun.COM (GP Grewal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
Subject: Music Theory?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:44:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: gpg@astrix.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: astrix
Keywords: Music, Text

I know a little bit about music but have never read a text
on music theory. I tried reading a translation of Fux's book
on counterpoint and realized that I need to know more about
basics.

Could someone recommend a book on music theory that explains 
all the basic concepts. 
 
Thanks,
---

GP Grewal
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
Subject: Voice Leading Software (was Re: Music Theory)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 10:10:46 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.sdsu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


Do you know of any public domain software which will provide
melody harmonization which is within the constraints imposed
by traditional voice leading principles?


Larry
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Double Bass for Sale
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:57:00 +0000

Subject: Double Bass for Sale
=============================

[For UK post only: Sorry my mailer can't automatically do UK 
distribution posts.]


3/4 size Double Bass for sale. Blonde, carved Zeller model, includes 
soft case. A-mazing sound, but sadly I'm moving to smaller premises 
that only allow for my bass guitars.

Two years old, never gigged, never left my house and it's in 
absolutely pristine condition. Cost #670. Want to sell for #550 
o.n.o.

Please don't follow up in this newsgroup, please Email me for more 
information and I'll post you my telephone number if you';re 
interested.

Thank you

Clive Grace
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Matt's GEMs?
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:54:47 GMT

I've been reading this group for quite a while now and every now and then
I encounter references to "Matt's GEMS serie".  From the contexts I've
understood that this is a supposedly interesting series of articles
on composing, etc. (correct?).
I reckon we're talking about a series of _electronic_ documents here...
Are they archived soemwhere, or would anyone be willing to send me his/her
copies of the GEMS?
Any info is appreciated, either thru email or in this group (which I read
daily).

And (a bit late, but what the heck :) : a very happy, healthy,
inspiring and musically satisfying 1993 to y'all.


--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
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