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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: CRICKETS and CRICKET mailing lists
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:05:38 GMT
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       As I have already said in an earlier post, CRICKET na CRICKETS will not
be distributed from the usual machine vm1.nodak.edu starting 6:00pm on 25 the
November till 8:00 am on 30th November (both times being CST). Those two lists
will ba handled by a volunteer. The subscription to those lists will be
suspended by 12:01 am CST of 25 th Nov so that I can pass on the list of the
subscribers. If any body wants to subscribe to either/both of those lists,
please send your requests as per the notes below. 
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            As most of you are aware there is a mailing list CRICKETS in which
there will be update, possibly as frequently as every hour on the games that
are in progress. We have some contributors from South Africa to send these
update on the Indian tour and some from Australia for the WI tour and the WSC
triagular matches. If you want to subscribe to this please send mail to:

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The mail message should be:

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ps. There have been a number of persons subscribing to CRICKET (a mailing list
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CRICKETS as well.


K. Sankara Rao, Coordinator for CRICKETS mailing list.

            As most of you are aware there is a mailing list CRICKET in which
there will be postings on the daily happenings, if we get enough contributors.
This mailing list will have 'genuine' scorecards posted by the contributors. Of
late, this list did not have many postings as the scorecards from the
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:19:33 EST
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: 199, 299, 499 !

In article <6779@otc.otca.oz>, brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) says:
>
>OK... here's a teriffic trivia question:
>
>What is the *lowest* score that has *never* been scored in a Test match for
>a completed innings?
>
is it 198?

Stay cool,
Sunil.

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From: amal@mel.dit.csiro.au (Amal De Silva)
Subject: NZ in SL
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:02:24 GMT


I have returned to Australia after a four week stay in SRI LANKA and let me give
my opinion about the controversy created by the bomb in front of the new zealand
players hotel.

Having lived in Colombo when number of bombs have gone off, the chances that
a bomb will harm any one of the New Zealand players is minimal. It is highly
unlikely that the Tamil Tigers would target the new zealand players as they would 
have nothing to gain, but a lot to lose in international sympathy to their cause
by doing this. But I could not claim with out doubt that this will not happen as
there are instances that the Tigers have attacked forigners. ( As the bombing of
the Air Lanka plane in which number of forigners died.). Even so the Sri Lankan
government probably will provide a high level of security that this will be
difficult.


The next possible thing that could happen is that players may get hurt
accidently. The possibilitiy that this happening is even less. Over 500,000
people live in colombo and in the last three years three bombs have gone off,
either a cabinet minister or a miltary person were  the targets. For the vast
majority of people that live colombo, getting hurt by a bomb is least of their
worries. I think NZ players have a higher chance getting killed by a motor car
accident in NZ than accidently being killed by a bomb in colombo.

Next  I would like to make another important point which nobody
has mentioned so far. All the new zealand players will be probably know that this
tour is going to be very difficult. NZ could not beat SL in NZ last time SL
toured NZ. If my memory is correct SL always had the upperhand in the first 3
days of both the tests. If NZ could not beat SL in NZ they must realize that it
is going to be even more difficult in SL. The Australian side which is better
than the NZ side also found it difficult. The prospect of being in the sweltering
heat and high humidity for three days in a row would not be attractive for a
person who is not used to it. I believe that this also a factor when some of the
players decided to use the bomb to get out of the tour.

Amal de Silva

The opinions expressed here are mine and mine only ( to my opinion, which may be
wrong )

YOU CAN GET IT WRONG AND STILL THINK THAT ITS ALL RIGHT.

John Lennon and Paul McCartney from We can work it out(1965).


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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 11:33:40 CST
From: <U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: The Patil Files (+ Srikkant,Siddhu)- was Re: In the defense
 <1992Nov13.215646.19621@infonode.ingr.com> <karnik.721707232@myria>
 <1992Nov17.030958.21472@news.acns.nwu.edu>

Like you said, it's just stats maan.
Srikkanth's test career can definitely not be considered more than moderate
and neither can Patil's.  But the reason Srikkanth is usually considered
to be a success is his fielding, attitude (and stance ?), and his one day
internationals.  Don't count the centuries, Srik at one time had the
highest # of 90+ scores in ODI (or just behind Richards or Haynes).
Even Siddhu whose average is definitely higher (and he had an amazing rate
of scoring 50s) pales before Srik (both are openers in this case) again
because of style and shots (only shot of Siddhu's I will remember is his
lofted shot over long on), and also the number of games Srik won for India
or made them lose gracefully.
People remember shots not stats.
(I do remember Patil's 24 run blitz of Willis)
From: vs@duke.cs.duke.edu (Vijay Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Cricket Quiz
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:12:59 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Nov23.210958.10588@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> nadeem@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu (Mohammed Nadeem  ISE-GRAD) writes:
>
>	Here's a small quiz for X-mas break.
>
>	In the first innings of a test match, only two balls have
>	been bowled by a bowler and the score board shows a total
>	of 12 runs with no extras. (No no-balls, no wides, etc.)
>	Both the batsmen have scored 6 runs apiece.
>	
>	Good luck
>


The fielding team has placed the helmet for the close-in fielder behind the
wicketkeeper.  The first ball is bowled, the opener edges it, but More drops
the catch.  The batsmen scurry across for a single, but More, in his haste,
kicks the ball into the helmet behind him, giving the batsman 5 more runs.

Remarkably, on the next ball, the same thing happens again, this time the
ball flying to Shastri at first slip, who promptly deflects it into the
helmet, as the batsmen cross over for a single.

12 for no loss.

Disclaimer: All names used in this article are purely fictitious, and any
resemblance to any characters, living or otherwise, is coincidental.

	Vijay
-- 
Department of Computer Science, Duke University, Durham, NC 27706
Internet:	vs@cs.duke.edu
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From: 000087384@ucis.vill.edu (GUNNA, SANDEEP)
Subject: Re: Cricket Quiz
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Villanova University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:45:00 GMT

In article <722560378@thames.cs.duke.edu>, vs@duke.cs.duke.edu (Vijay Srinivasan) writes...
>In article <1992Nov23.210958.10588@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> nadeem@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu (Mohammed Nadeem  ISE-GRAD) writes:
>>
   [ question deleted ....]

> 
>The fielding team has placed the helmet for the close-in fielder behind the
>wicketkeeper.  The first ball is bowled, the opener edges it, but More drops
>the catch.  The batsmen scurry across for a single, but More, in his haste,
>kicks the ball into the helmet behind him, giving the batsman 5 more runs.
> 
>Remarkably, on the next ball, the same thing happens again, this time the
>ball flying to Shastri at first slip, who promptly deflects it into the
>helmet, as the batsmen cross over for a single.
> 
>12 for no loss.
Well certainly the best one I have seen in rsc for a long time,
Well done.....
> 
>Disclaimer: All names used in this article are purely fictitious, and any
>resemblance to any characters, living or otherwise, is coincidental.
> 
>	Vijay
>-- 
>Department of Computer Science, Duke University, Durham, NC 27706
>Internet:	vs@cs.duke.edu
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From: karnik@pico.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Chinese bowling
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:55:38 GMT

In <1992Nov20.085627@is.morgan.com> andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad) writes:

>|> So in summary a chinaman is bowled exactly like a RH leg break delivery. 
>|> 
>|> --shamim

>First, let's clear up an area of confusion: A RH bowler's style is determined as
>if he was bowling to a RH batsman. a LH bowler's style is determined as if he is
>bowling to a LH batsman. A bowler's style does NOT change when the batsman
>changes. Therefore:

>A RH off-break bowler moves the ball LtoR.
>A LH off-break bowler moves the ball RtoL.
>A RH leg-break bowler moves the ball RtoL.
>A LH leg-break bowler moves the ball LtoR.


	I disagree!! An "off-break" or "off-spin" is a ball which "breaks" 
from the BATSMAN's "off" side to his leg side. Similarly a "leg-break" is one
which spins from the BATSMAN's "leg" side to his off side. That is to say,
the kind of spin depends upon whether the BATSMAN is LH or RH, NOT the BOWLER.
So a bowler's *style* may not change, but the resulting spin may be termed
differently. After all, why then does the off-side of an RH batsman become
the leg-side of an LH batsman ??

	As I mentioned in an earlier article, I always thought a chinaman
was the mirror image of a RH googly (and Shamim seems to agree). 


>And finally, the bottom line: "A chinaman is a left handed googly" tells us that
>a chinaman is an off-break with a leg-break action which means the ball moves
>RtoL but the batsman expects it to move LtoR (again, w.r.t. the bowler).


	Well, a chinaman IS an off-break for a RH batsman, bowled with the
usual leg-break (for RH) action. So it moves INTO the RH batsman from the 
off side, i.e. it moves L to R from the bowler's perspective.

>All pretty confusing stuff

	Yeah. But I think I've got it right *this* time :-> :->

>AC


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: rgajendr@cisco.com (I. Rajeev Gajendran)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: NZ v Zim T2 D3 Tea
Date: 16 Nov 1992 23:37:05 GMT
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In article <1992Nov16.145733.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov12.101717.12383@lut.ac.uk>, D.I.Patel@lut.ac.uk writes:
|> > Actually, Zimbabwe has had absolutely no rain for a few months now;  it has 
|> > only started raining since they started playing the current test series 
|> > against NZ.
|> 
|> We often have that effect on the weather :-).
|> 
|> Alan

The Today show is broadcasting a two-week special from various 
places in Africa.  There has been a severe drought in Zimbabwe 
lasting (I believe) two years until the recent rain. Co-host 
Katy Couric was trying to take credit for it - nice try, Katy. 
Every RSC reader knows that the best way to produce torrential 
monsoons is to schedule cricket accordingly...
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From: raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: Chinaman Delivery
Organization: DA&MRL, Engineering, UWO, London Ont. CA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:31:00 GMT

In article <1edts3INNitt@nyquist.usc.edu>, shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov18.163325.4111@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov writes:
|> >Could anyone explain the chinaman delivery (bowler's) ? Thanks.
|> 
|> 	It is the "wrong one" bowled by a left arm spinner.

'wrong un' i.e., i think.  Basically its a incoming delivery bowled by left arm legbreak 
bowler, similar to googley by right arm legbreak bowler. I would also like to know
different techniques of bowling it i usually bowl(try to) a straight ball by using the
crease.....
|> 
|> 	Shivanand Bhajekar
|> 
|> 
|> >
|> >Pradip Shah General Electric 
|> >
|> 
|> 

-- 

S.R.Raza.
raza@surya.engrg.uwo.ca
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: SA vs India (2nd Test)
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:26:54 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Nov22.180343.6745@samba.oit.unc.edu> Sanjay.Naik@launchpad.unc.edu (Sanjay Naik) writes:
>As for Donald, he's good but he's no Curtly Ambrose or the two W's from
>Pak.The trouble with Donald is that he's too erratic and more
>importantly, inconsistent.

	   A [white lightening] Donald may have the lightening speed, but
he can't do things with the ball like IB, CA, WA, WY, et al.

Salman [cuts both ways] Azhar

-- 
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 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
 I must, in flood of tears, drown or cleanse myself
 I must! I must! I must! For my people and myself -- D. Salman [Q] Azhar
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From: hafeez@vxcrna.cern.ch (Syed Mohammad Ali)
Subject: Re: First ball dismissal
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:18:00 GMT

In article <6778@otc.otca.oz>, brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes...
>Way back when, zorl@hippo.ru.ac.za (Mr RK Laubscher) wrote:
>> ...first time a batsman has been dismissed first ball of the match on debut
>                                                                        ***** 
>Then others contributed:
>>>If I remember right, Gavaskar was out first ball to Imran Khan. That
>>>was Gavaskar's last series. May be I am wrong. Can anyone clarify.

        Yes, it was in 1987 when Pakistan toured India. It was the 
        fourth test match at Ahmedabad before the decisive one in
        Bangalore.

        Imran bowled an inswinger that got a thick edge off the bat
        and went to the second slip where Javed Minadad took a 
        difficult catch low on his right to get rid of Gavaskar.

        By the way that pitch was a dull placid one and the test
        match ended in a tame draw with high scores from both sides.
        That match also saw Ijaz Faqih , who was called from Pakistan

>>>...
        specially as an additional bowler, scoring a century.
>> If I am not mistaken Boycott was also out once on the first ball by Rodney 
>> Hogg during the Packer years in Australia.
> 
>For crying out loud... read what the topic is about!!
> 
>FIRST BALL IN TEST DUCK ON DEBUT.  Not anything else.  OK?
> 
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From: SHARIQ@charlie.usd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Cricket Matches
Date: 19 Nov 1992 21:49:37 -0600
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I believe the WSC matches will be shown live along with the Pakistan_West Indiesseries in the Caribbean next spring now thatt we have access to sattelite 
vision.What do you guys think?

shariq@charlie.usd.edu
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Subject: Re: century on debut
From: pujara@kiwi.acs.csulb.edu (Dipen Pujara)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:47:49 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <1992Nov17.202417.17784@news.uakron.edu>  writes:
> Keywords: 
> 
> did azhar score century on debut -- ? could someone clarify for me please
> cotah

Oh yes! Also Azhar scored 3 centuries in his first three tests. His debut was  
in Calcutta.
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From: murali@stretch.polymer.uakron.edu (Murali Cotah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: vishy's stats
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:55:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov17.205525.19104
Organization: Institute of Polymer Science, University of Akron

Keywords: 

> Or Vishy between
his debut series in '69 and his superb performance against WI in '74-75.
A few fifties at the most.
>
could somebody send me (at my email adds) or post vishy's stats between 69 and 74.
i am also curious to know about his performance in his last 15 tests. I thought he got a double 
break -- i could be wrong
COTAH
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From: allister@gphs.vuw.ac.nz (Allister J. Gorman)
Subject: Re: NZ in SL
Organization: Institute of Geophysics, Victoria University of Wellington, NZ
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.130034.12274@waikato.ac.nz>, hist1261@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.204538.16656@ncar.ucar.edu>, amanning@acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
> > In article <9211161202.AA08500@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
> >>    NZ team is now in Sri Lanka and there is a scare today. There was a bomb
> >>explosion in Colombo which killed a naval commander. 
> > 
> > Didn't a very similar thing happen the last time NZ toured Sri Lanka? Maybe
> > they don't like Kiwis?
> > 
> 
> Exactly my thoughts.  Trying to blow up one's opposition must be the very
> highest compliment one could pay them (and we don't even have Hadlee this
> time!).
> 
> A few reports have drawn a comparision with the New Zealand Netball team's
> decision to stay on in Britain after IRA bomb threats, suggesting that the
> netballs have a little more intestinal fortitude than our cricketers!
> Personal opinion will no doubt dictate how one responds to such parallels,
> but all I can say is that I hope we never have to fight another war if
> the current controversy is an accurate measure of the nation's courage.
> 
> Looking forward to politically correct flames.

O.K. I'll bite:  I hope we don't have to fight another war, but for
different reasons than measuring a nation's courage.  Back to cricket,
I don't think courage is very useful of you are dead.  Sure no-one is
trying to intensionally kill the cricketers or netballers, but I don't
think the extra two or three people killed with the Navy commander
expected to be targets either.  They were in the wrong place at the
wrong time, and now the New Zealanders have to decide what is the
chance that they will be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  In
many ways it is hard to compare the situation in England with Sri
Lanka, especially from this distance.  But remember the conflict
in Ireland has claimed fewer lives in the last few years (although
with more sensational reporting) than the Sri Lankan one, and Ireland
and England are on different islands, while this conflict is in the
same island (although it tends to be confined mainly to one corner).

After all that, I feel the NZers have to make up their own minds,
based on how they see the situation, and we should stand behind them
whatever they choose.

Allister J. Gorman, <allister.gorman@vuw.ac.nz>.
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From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: 199, 299, 499 !
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:50:51 GMT

In article <92317.230423U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U58582@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|> 199 - I think Mudassar (vs India) and Azhar (vs SL) (i don't know if
|> anyone scored 199 after Azhar did.
	Dean Jones was run out going for 200 in a shield game (first class aust)
	(ie run out 199)

|> 299 - Sir DOn had one, (other than his 4 300s), I am not sure if he was
|> not out
	vrs Sth Africa, at Adelaide I think.

|> 499 - Hanif Mohammed in first class match (he I think was definitely n.o.)
|> 
	The story I heard, he was 499, and on the last ball of the day
	he was run out going for 500. This could well be mythology,
	but it'd be a good story!

|> I don't know of anyone who scored 199 and 299 in test cricket, unless someone
|> did it in the last couple of years (I don't think so).  When Azhar was out
|> for 199, he was only the second player to do that.

	Of course 99 is fairly popular, I think G. Boycott was once
	99* as an opener when the innings finished.

	tom
From: SHARIQ@charlie.usd.edu
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Subject: Azhar and 100's and victories
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:04:49 -0600
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India has never womn a match in which Azhar has scored a hundred.I am pretty
sure of that.

Shariq
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From: "manish khettry" <mkhettry@mako.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Rest day?
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:56:10 EST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

	Is there a day of rest between D3 and D4. 
	
	------
	Manish

	PS: I hope not, this could be such an exciting game.
From: ysm@engin.umich.edu (Yawar Shahzad Murad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA vs India
Date: 15 Nov 1992 20:54:11 -0600
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Could you send me an up-to-date scorecard of the play till the end of the 
third day? Thanks!

Yawar
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Ind v SAI and WI v NSW
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:42:50 -0600
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India v SA Invitational XI

      India lost the first three wickets by the time the score was 21. But Amre
and Manjrekar put up one hundred in 140 minutes before Manjrekar was stumped at
the score of 134. At the same score Prabhakar was also out. The latest score
is: India 156 for 5 with Amre at 75.

WI v NSW

     At stumps on the first day, NSW were 349 for 4. Mark Waugh with 104 and
Mark Taylor with 101 are the leading run getters.

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