From: hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch)
Subject: Re: CY, MVP, ROY
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.193940.16825@tamsun.tamu.edu>, rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez) writes...
> 
>I see the following still in the race...comments/suggestions
>welcomed.   go flame someone else.
> 
>American League
>---------------
> 
>Cy Young
>1. Strong candidates: McDowell, Clemens, Morris(?!?), Eck

Rocket's still a good possibility--he pitches tonight versus the Angels

McDowell seems to be coming on strong--if the Rocket falters and the Eck
show that he's human, he should get it.

The Eck has been almost perfect, but if a couple of starters win 20, I don't
think he'll win.

I know he's 17-5, but any sportswriter who votes Jack "4.22 ERA" Morris for
Cy Young should be shot.  Even if the Blue Jays win.  If you want to use the
"Cy Young winner should be on a winning team" argument-vote for the Eck.

>2. Fading: Brown, Mussina

I'm afraid so.  Mussina's arm is tired, and hasn't been at all effective his
last few starts.  Brown always struggles in the second half, and this is no
exception :-( (Got him on my Strat team)

>3. Next Year: Nagy, Appier

Yes!! Both have had very good seasons for lame teams.  I think Nagy is more
likely to win within the next few years--the Indians are rapidly improving, 
while I'm not impressed with the direction the Royals are taking (IMHO).

WHAT!!? You forgot about Jim Acker!!!  :-)

>***Note: What's up with Melido Perez this year?  Too bad the Yanks
>         are so dismal.

That's the truth.  Now, honestly, how many of you thought the Yanks got
rooked in that Sax deal?? C'mon raise your hands... :-)

> 
>MVP
>I need suggestions here.  I'm personally gonna stick with Eck.
>McGwire was falling off, then got hurt.

If McGwire comes back, he's got a good shot.

If not, anyone could win it (except, of course, Bill Ripken :-) )
:  the Jays, O's, and Brewers don't have any one
player who is having an AWESOME year (although Alomar and [gack!] Brady 
Anderson have been quite good).  Puckett's having a solid year, and since
sportswriters don't pay any attention to OBP, his lack of walks won't hurt
him.  The Eck is a possibility, too.

If you don't subscribe to the "MVP must be on a winner" philosophy, you
could go with Edgar Martinez or Frank Thomas (I think you can ALWAYS go
with Frank Thomas--amazing, isn't he...)

Cecil Fielder won't win.  

> 
>ROY
>1. Strong: Listach, Lofton

I'd go with Listach over Lofton any day.  His stats are slightly better than
Lofton's, and he plays a much more demanding position.  He's on a pennant
contending team, too.

>2. Fading: Fleming

Fading?  Didn't he just throw a two-hit shutout against the Indians Monday?
Or had he been getting bashed before then? 

>3. Next Year: now that wouldn't make any sense, would it?

Sure it would.  I'll go with Roger Salkeld, if he regains his arm strength.


>National League
>---------------
> 
>Cy Young
>1. Tom Glavine
>2. That's it

Probably correct, sportswriters will see his 23 or so wins and it'll be all
over.  A lot of the other candidates having good years in the stats department
are getting no run support (Maddux, Drabek), so they don't have good W-L 
records, which seems to be the major criteria for determining the Cy winner.

>MVP
>1. Strong: Sheffield, McGriff

I've got to go with Sheffield here.  

>2. Dark Horses (asbestos suit time): Bonds, Pendleton

Bonds IS having a super year--he deserves consideration.  Pendleton shouldn't
finish higher than fifth (IMHO)--behind Sheffield, Bonds, McGriff, and Daulton.

>3. Next Year: Daulton.  The Phillies can be just as crappy without him.

But my God, would they be BRUTAL without him...

> 
>ROY
>Help again...Karros is a candidate.  There are others, but I can't
>seem to pull names right now.  Cianfrocco is fading/has faded.

Cianfrocco is back in the minors, and his OBP sucked toads anyway.

I'd go with Reggie Sanders--but only by a hair over Moises Alou or Karros.
I can't think of anyone else deserving.

> 
>I'm interested in hearing people opine away.

Well, here's my two cents worth.

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