From: vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:14:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Aug26.181448.29403
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <1992Aug26.152443.5240@brtph560.bnr.ca>, markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:

[... more arguments, with a few annoying personal insults/flames deleted ...]

|> As for who gets the edge where, my vote goes like this..
|> 
|> Scoring:              Jordan (Bird's a scorer, too)
|> Shooting:             Bird (Magic and Jordan are shooters, too)
|> Passing:              Magic (Jordan and Bird can pass, too)
|> Rebounding:           Bird (Magic and Jordan can rebound, too)
|> Playmaking(team):     Magic (Bird is a team playmaker, too)
|> Playmaking(individ):  Jordan (Magic is an individ playmaker, too)
|> 
|> (*flame retardant suit on*)
|> 
|> Defense:              Jordan (Magic is fair, Bird flat out sucks)
|> Elevating Teammates:  Jordan/Bird/Magic (Bird with 3 Championships on teams
|>                       with a pretty high average of talent, Magic with 5 
|>                       Championships with the *highest* average of talent, 
|>                       and Jordan with 2 Championships ***SO FAR*** with a 
|>                       decent average of talent on the team)
|> 
|> (*flame retardant suit off*)
|> 


OK... here finally is where I pretty much agree with you, and let's put it
all together in a rahter simple point system:

	3pts for the best, 2pts for the middle, 1 pt for the weakest...

		Category	Bird	Magic	Jordan

		Passing		2	3	1
		Scoring		2	1	3
		Shooting	3	1	2
		Rebounding	3	1	2
		Playmaking(T)	2	3	1
		Playmaking(I)	1	2	3
		Elevating Team	2	3	1
		Defense		1	2	3

		Total		16	16	16

IMHO, it is a dead heat between the three.. the best is up for grabs...
That is, the best is a personal opinion, and I realize you didn't mean
to belittle Bird or Magic by supporting Jordan vehemently... My flames
these days are against those who choose to belittle them, and consciously
do so. Perhpas I SOUND "ignorant" by supporting these guys, but I also
thought you were prolly one of those who were trashing Bird and Magic. You
weren't... my mistake. But, enjoy your opinion, and I'll enjoy mine... :)

And my overall ranking goes:
				1) Magic
				2) Bird
				3) Jordan

This is MY OPINION... NO FLAMES. But, considering the careers, and the fact 
that I can't stand Jordan, here is MY opinion... but as Jordan continues to
dominate the NBA, he will most definitely rise in this ranking... :)

[...]

|> On an unrelated note, I'm also tired of hearing the Larry's good because he's 
|> white comments, but I've taken a different approach.  
|> 
|> The people that think Larry is good only because he's white are probably the 
|> same people that think blacks are faster and can jump higher because they
|> are black.  If this is true, does that mean that they are suggesting that if 
|> you give Larry Bird quicker legs and a higher vertical leap (by making him
|> a black person -- obvious right?), he wouldn't be that good by NBA standards?
|> 
|> Yeah, right.

Once again (shocked!) we agree.. :)

|> 
|> -- 
|> Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
|> Bell Northern Research, Inc.


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