HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Prices of bikes in Europe?
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:28:22 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
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jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) says:
> 
> Secondly, rumor has it that the K75 is a loss-leader in the States. Apparently
> it's as expensive to build a K75 as a K100 but the market just won't bear the
> cost of a >$10K 750.

The K75 (bare K75) is a loss leader. The K75S is not; you pay over $2,000
for the fairing, which is the only difference between the two.

Some more prices:

model	german price	in US$		us price	%diff
R100R	13,950 DM	$9,486		$8,240		15%
R100GS	15,350 DM	$10,438		$7,790		34%
R100RT	18,500 DM	$12,580		$9,340		35%
K1100LT	23,500 DM	$15,980		$14,890		7%
K1	26,950 DM	$18,326		$14,290		28%
K75	14,700 DM	$10,300		$6,590		56%
K75S	17,300 DM	$11,764		$9,290		27%

....paul

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Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:56:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan04.154258.29515@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <602.2B45761A@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Nelson) writes:
>>Personally, I find children to be *un*attractive nuisances.
>You just haven't met the right one yet...

I think James Small might be the man to talk to about this one ....

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From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Attn Jody!! Your bra for...
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 21:51:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.054547.3358@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>
>Curtis "My mother was an Abernethy, and my father was a MacShane" Jackson*
>
>* MacShane sounded Irish enough to get a lot of my family persecuted back
>  when the Irish were being trod upon, so the name was changed to protect
>  the innocent (or at least us Scots).

    Ye can always tell an Irishman from as Scot by the 'A' in the 'Mac.
Irishmen dinna use it.


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 
doh # 000069.000 
      000074  (Panhead displacement)
      3 15/32 (Panhead bore)
'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)

 
#insert std.getas 
    ed geta bike
    ravi geta shift key
    (as required) 
           geta life 
           Getajob
        Etc.
 
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    tonicht ye're alrrright I ken"
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From: n8643084@henson.cc.wwu.edu (owings matthew)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: SEATTLE MOTORCYCLE SHOW
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:15:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan13.001514.23416
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Washington University

So, is anybody going to the Seattle Motorcycle show at the Convention Center?
Should be big, after all, it's sponsored by Cycle World.  Me and  my brother
Matt are going Saturday afternoon.  Should arrive about 3p.m.  I'll be wearing
my 250 ninja shirt by K-Mart.   My brother looks exactly like me so we
should be easy to spot if you want to say hello.

By the way, the Ninja decals are the best part of the bike!  Styling IS
everything.  My 87 250 is just about the best looking bike ever made
and therefore has more character than just about any other bike on 
the road.  Not to mention I don't see a whole lot of them around.
Of course, this is all my very humble opinion:)

Marty and Matt Owings
87' 250 ninja type riders
85' Dodge Charger Shelby Turbo.

"It's a freedom that we all wanna know
and it's an obsession to some
to keep the world in your rearview mirror
while you try to run down the sun"

"Wheels" by Rhestless Heart.
From: mstoller@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu (Matthew E. Stoller)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: I finally got a Concours
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:47:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Social Science Computing, University of Pennsylvania

Hi all,

Thanks to all of you who have sent me info about Kawasaki Concours pricing 
and advice on a few Concours' which I located. 

When I went to my parents house in Rochester, NY, I called up the local Kawi 
dealers and found a 1986 Concours.  The dealer was asking $2998, the bike 
had 5200 miles on it, and was in great shape.  I went to the dealer, looked 
over the bike, and the only problems I found were; the rubber boots
surrounding the mirror stems needed to be reattached, and there was a small 
amount (2 sq. cm.) of paint flaking off one of the muffler mounts.  The 
dealer de-winterized the bike, took it for a test run, and then I took it 
out for a test ride.  I wasn't able to really open it up, as it was raining 
heavily, and very foggy.  But, I was hooked.  I said "let's talk", the 
dealer (Bill - the owner of the dealership) said he wouldn't be able to come 
down very much on the price if I wanted to pick it up in the spring.  I said 
that I wanted it the next day,  he said "$2750", just for fun I said I would 
prefer to pay "around $2500" and he said "$2650" was the least he could let 
it go for.  I shook his hand and we filled out the paperwork.

Warning: unsolicited glowing review of dealer follows
The next day I went to pick up the bike and he said it was being prepped and 
was taking a little longer than expected as he had noticed that the idle 
sound was funny.  He had the carbs taken apart and cleaned, as well as going 
over cables, brakes, tires, etc. at no charge to me.  I expected that the 
bike would be in running order, but I didn't expect he would have a problem 
fixed which I didn't even notice (the carbs).  He also spent about 45 
minutes going over the bike with me.  All this and I don't live anywhere 
near the dealership, and he knew it.  The dealer was Hollink Motor Sports in 
Spencerport NY.  The person I dealt with was Bill Hollink.  Maybe it was the 
fact that it was late Dec. in the snow belt, maybe he just couldn't get rid 
of the bike, but I never been treated so well in any other m/c dealership.

I rode the bike down to Philly/Wilmington DE on Sunday 1/3 and Monday 1/4 (
we took a break in Binghamton as the roads were getting a bit too icy for my 
tastes.  Just rode it from home (Wilmington) to work (Philly) and I don't 
think I have stopped smiling.  Now all I have to do is enjoy the bike and 
the 36 months to pay off the personal loan I took out to pay for it (I wish 
I was wealthy^H^H^H^H^H^H^H filthy rich)

Thanks again.

			Matt Stoller
			mstoller@mcneil.sas.upenn.edu
			DoD # -1
			1979 GS750L (which just ate it's second stator and 
				     regulator/rectifier)
			1986 Concours (which is wonderful)
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:14:39 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 23995@i88.isc.com, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.195227.3643@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>
>>Folks you will not believe this, but BMW has come up with a new
>>color scheme that is absolutely ugly IMHO.  The new paint jobs make my now
>
>The old paint job wasn't ugly?

There exists a paint job that will make the G/S non-ugly?!?

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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: V-4 Honda oil filters
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:01:25 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <BLEVE.93Jan11202037@hoggle2.uucp>, bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett
Lee Leve) wrote:

> If you only use Honda oil filters on your Honda V-4, you may be interested in this.
> 
> I have been using the oil filter from a 1986 Honda Accord instead of the motorcycle
> one.  They are basically the same.  The only defferences are:
> 
> 1) The car one is blue and the bike one is black.
> 2) The bike one is 3 dollars more here in Orlando.
> 3) The car one is made in USA and the bike one is made in Japan.
> 
> I have been using the car one for about a year, they are basically the same, and
> the car one is easier to get and cheaper.  I know that other Honda cars use the 
> same filter, but I always ask for one from a 1986 Accord, just because I know it
> fits.

Certain model oil filters, while physically compatible, don't necessarily
operate in exactly the same way. In previous years, this was true of the
original, single cam Honda 750 oil filter versus the newer double cam 
motor... the single cam filter did not flow adequate oil at high revs.

I don't know whether this difference in function is true for the Accord
versus V-Four motorcycle filter, but I for one will not risk a very 
expensive engine overhaul for the sake of $3.00.
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From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 19:10:55 GMT

In article <1810@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>	I was attempting to get my sig to post....but the damn thing
>	won't work....

I don't know about sig posts, probably depends what type of sig it is!
For example, STOP sigs won't work on this net.  However, here's a
mailbox post to give you the general idea ...


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio

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            O..............O---------------------------------
                                    M     M
                                    M     M
This is a mailbox post.             M     M
                                    M     M
                                    M     M
                                    M     M

                                      
            {  Friends don't let friends run out of mailbox posts  }
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bell Helmets
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:49:15 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <moseley.159.726520896@u.washington.edu>,
moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) wrote:
> 
> 
> Well gosh, the helmet probably saved me from a lot worse than a little 'ol 
> hematoma, so maybe I'll just write Bell and thank them instead. I know
> that's not exactly the American way, and if everybody felt that way, the 
> legal profession (racket?) would be in trouble.

_That's_ the spirit.  More.  More!
From: ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: New Fund/Conscience-Raising Idea
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:33:13 GMT
Reply-To: ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu ()
Organization: Image Analysis Center, Univ. Hospitals of Cleveland
NNTP-Posting-Host: max.uh.cwru.edu


WRT unauthorized playing on bikes (that whole Dear Abbey thing), I liked the
idea of the magnetic warning label, although somebody thought they might get
stolen.  Anyway, here's the idea:  official DoD warning labels, possibly
magnetic, featuring the DoD Geek Freak and an appropriate warning.  Maybe
the warning could feature clever plays on the DoD initialism: "Death or
Dismemberment".

I'm too busy reading news to be able to undertake this project.

Ed Ellert
ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu
DoD #1110
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain prematurely worn out?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 02:00:12 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <1ia7o0INNnav@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>Is it possible I got a defective chain? 
>
>Possible, not likely.  I suspect the QA on such as critical part is
>pretty strict, for liability.

So did I.  Before spending half this weekend trying to put the *wrong* 
(which is to say, someone at the factory put the wrong one in the box)
master link on my new chain, and the other half trying to get it back 
off again.

ARGHHH!!!!!

Serves me right for trying to follow the directions.

Oh, and FYI, the holes in side plates shrink when they get cold.


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Subject: Cager comments from nz.general
From: dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:14:34 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

In article <1993Jan7.221101.1905@gaya.gp.co.nz>, mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
[stuff about bad driving deleted]
> However, I will make a couple of observations of general bad 
> driving I have seen loads of times:
> 
> 1. Why do people have to come over the centre line when the road curves to 
> the right? Drivers seem to particularly like to do this on blind corners. 
> There should be no need for this unless the road is too narrow to keep to 
> your own side (actually this is a good reason to be even more careful, as 
> the driver coming the other way probably doesn't have any more room for 
> getting out of the way). The centre line is there for a reason. With the 
> number of times I have seen this (both on open road and in the suburbs) it 
> is amazing that there are not any more head-on collisions. Often it is not 
> just a matter of a wheel over the line, but half the car.

> Also, motorcyclists do not seem to realise how far their body is over the
> line with their wheels on the correct side.

Remember, this is posted in New Zealand where we drive on the left.

This is what the average cager thinks of some motorcyclists. I reckon
it must have been quite a tight road for him to be complaining about a
m/cyclist being in his way with their wheels on the correct side of the centre
line. The rest of what he says is true - cagers do cut corners too often.

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From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: I hate snow.
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:58:11 GMT

In article <Stafford-040193162527@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.203814.15439@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>,
>groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh) wrote:
>> 
>[...]
>>  By the
>> way, what is this snow y'all keep talkin about.  <Sneerrrkkk>
>
>I'll tell you if you tell us what a Hurricane is. 
 
Ex-National Champs?!? <giggle>

-- 
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: open
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:57:43 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1993Jan8.083149.2735@news.columbia.edu>, twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang) writes:
>
> { Tony Wang relates long story about suing insurance scum}
> 
> "allowance" of $150 for 14 monthes. My second case is still in
> process, going on 31 monthes now, but the lowest payoff goal my lawyer
> has set for the case is $125K of which I can easily net $25K+ after he
                          ^^^^^
> gets his share and for all my bills. If you can repair it yourself, do
> it and sue for everything you can. If they're willing to settle with
> you now, they may be willing to settle for a little more once they
> know you have a lawyer. Don't know the laws out in CA, but in NY,
> payment for pain and suffering is non-taxable State-wise.  Federally,
> Uncle Sam can't touch a cent. I now this is why the insurance company
> is charging so much, but you're entitled if you can establish fault. I
> say milk it for all you can, and get a new bike later.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  
> Tony Wang
> twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu

I disagree. $125K is a fair number of bucks. If you were put in the hospital
for several days and end up with a huge medical bill, fine. $125K - $25K = 
$100K for lawyer's fees & bills, so I assume you had said huge medical bill.

Your note, however, *implies* (and I apologize if I'm wrong) that your 
attitude is "let's screw the guy over for everything he has."

1) This raises my insurance rates. I don't like this.
2) People who sue others to make big $$$ are parasites. I don't like this
either.

Insurance is for protection, not profiteering. If you have a legitimate claim
for injuries or property damage, go right ahead and sue. If you have no such
claim and sue, then you are a leech.

BC
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hip@a.cs.okstate.edu (HUFFMAN BRADLEY SP)
Subject: Re: ? about RD series of motorcycles
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 04:04:51 GMT

From article <1993Jan4.222041.7057@tcsi.com>, by markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer):
> In article <1993Jan4.155935.53990@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, f005@ns1 writes:
>>A friend was recently telling me about a motorcycle that I believe Yamaha put
>>out, the RD 125, 200, 250, 350, 400.  It might have been Honda but I'm pretty
>>sure that it was Yamaha.  Any information that I could get would be helpful.
>>Thanks in advance.
> 
> Yamaha RD400:
> 400 cc two-stroke twin.
> Easily modifiable to 50+ hp at the wheel, 39 stock.
> 342 lb dry in stock form.

Speaking of modifications, a friend of my has a article about replacing
the RD's coil with 2 Volkswagen (?) coils strap to the frame, as I remember
the factory coil just plain sucked.  Just some information for those who
don't remember the RD's.

Personally, if I see a RD 350 or 400 in runable condition for a few 
hundred dollars I'd buy it, they're just to much fun.

Just don't be fooled by the displacement.
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Attn Jody!! Your bra for...
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:09:04 GMT

james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
: In article <1782@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
: >
: >	Your bra for my Kilt...Its Wool, its made in Scotland...Its
: >	made out of the hair of little Scottish Sheep...It was walked
: >	by real Scotswomen (the wool)...the wool was dyed by Real
: >	Scotsman...The Dyed wool was woven by real Scotsweavers and the
: >	kilt was made by a real Scots Tailors....it is in Short
: >	Scottish...Through and through...Would you care for some haggis
: >	as well?? Perhaps a Blamonge?
: >
: >				Ryan the Scot...
:  
: My drawers where probably made in Korea, by real Koreans. They where dyed
: white by real Koreans. The hole for Junior was cut and sown by dyed in the
: wool authentic Koreans. The skid marks are 100% Kimmshee. No artificial
: flavors and certainly no preservatives (as the holes and waste band will attest
: to). They are in short American.
: Remember this isn't any old empty kilt. These are AMERICAN drawers, loaded
: by an AMERICAN for an AMERICAN (unless M'lud should take up this bidding
: frenzy).


:  
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