From: xm1@cec1.wustl.edu (Xingdong Ma)
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in China - more Info
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:26:39 GMT


In article <CMM.0.90.2.714171297.jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu> jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou) writes:
>Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu wrote:
>
>
>>	   2.  Qin2: Liu Bang cooked his father (or intended to) and
>>	   shared with xiang4 yu3;
>
>XiangYu wanted Liu to surrender and told Liu, "Surrender, or I'll
>cook your father." LiuBang replied, "We once swore to the Heaven
>that we would be brothers. Therefore, my father is also your
>father. If you want to cook our father, make sure that you also
>give me a bowl of the meat soup."  Xiang found out that his
>threatening did not work and eventually let LiuBang's father go.
>Anther famous event during this period of time was "steaming" of
>"Li2 Shi2 Qi2". He was sent by Liu2 Bang1 to convince "Zhao4"
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>state to surrender. While Li2 was in Zhao4, Han2 Xin4 attacked
>Zhao state. Therefore, Li2 was steamed (Peng1) in a big wok
>(Ding3) by Zhao people.

    Should his name be "Li4 Yi1 Ji1"? I don't remember very clearly
but I'm quite sure it not " Shi2 Qi2 ". 


>
>>	   6.  Tang:  The son cut part of his leg to give to his father
>>	   as zhong1 yao4;  This tradition lasted until late Qing1;
>>	   Many xiao4 zi3 would do the same when their fathers are ill;
>
>I don't know about this one. However, during the Spring-Autumn
>period of time, when "Jin4 Wen2 Gong1" Chong2 Er3 was on the run
>and in hunger, his loyal friend "Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1" cut a piece of
>meat from his own leg to feed Chong2 Er3. Years later after
>ChongEr became the head of Jin4 state, he burned Jie to death by
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>accident. From that on, ChongEr did not allow people to cook on
^^^^^^^^^
>that particular day and it was called the "Han2 Shi2 Jie2" (the
>cold food festival). ChongEr also made a piece of tree under
>which Jie died into a slipper. From that on, the term "Zhu2[foot]
>Xia4[beneath]" became a respectful term for calling a person.
>

 The fact is in << Zuo3 Zhuan4 >> ( Xi3 Gong1 24th year )

    Jin4 Hou2 shang3(award) cong2 wang2 zhe3 (those who followed him flee
   (refer to Chong2 Er3)
before),  Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1 bu4 (not)  yan2 (speak) lu4 ( How is "lu4"

translated? it's "Fu2 Lu4 Shou4" de Lu4, means high official salary ), 

lu4  (same with the previous "lu4") yi4 (also) fu2 (not) ji2 (come up to him).

    Tui1 yue1 (say) : "*Xian4 Gong1*  zhi1 zi3(son) jiu3 (9)  ren2, wei2 (only)

jun1 (you) zai4 (is here) yi3. *Hui4*, *Huai2* wu2(no) qin1(beloved), 

wai4(outside) nei4 (inside) qi4 (abandon) zhi1. Tian1(heaven) wei4(not)

 jue2 (cut off)  Jin4, bi4(must) jiang1(will) you3(have) zhu3(the head).

 Zhu3(host) Jin4 si4(refer to "She4 Ji4") zhe3, fei1(not) jun1(you) er2 

 shui2(who)?  Tian1  shi2 zhi4(place) zhi1, er2(but) er4(two) san1(three)

 zi3(man) yi3(consider) wei2(as) ji3(himself) li4(strength), bu4 yi4

 wu1(cheating) hu1?  Qie4(steal) ren2 zhi1 cai2(things), you2 wei4(say) 

zhi1(him) dao4(robber), kuang4(besides) tan1(covet) tian1 zhi1 gong1(merit)

 yi3(think)  wei2(as) ji3(himself) li4(strength) hu1?  Xia4 yi4 qi2 zui4(think

their crime as justice), shang4(up) shang3(grant) qi2(their) jian1(crafty), 

shang4 xia4  xiang1 meng2, nan2(hard) yu3(with) chu3(stay) yi3." Qi2(his) 

mu3(mother) yue1 : " He2(why not) yi4 qiu2(ask) zhi1 ? Yi3  si3(dead), 

shui2(who) dui4(emity)? " Dui4(answer) yue1 :" You2(guilt) er2 xiao4(follow) 

zhi1, zui4(crime) you4 shen4(more than) yan1. Qie3 chu1(have) yuan4 yan2,

 bu4(not) shi2(eat) qi2(his) shi2(food) ." Qi2 mu3 yue1 :" Yi4 shi3(let) 

zhi1 (know)  zhi1, ruo4 he2 (how about that)?"  Dui4 yue1 :" Yan2(words), 

shen1(body) zhi1 wen2(veins) ye3, shen1(body) jiang1(will) yin3(hidden),

yan1 yong4(use) wen2 zhi1? Shi4(this is) qiu2(asking) xian3(influential) ye3 ."

 Qi2 mu3 yue1 :" Neng2(can) ru2(like) sh14(this)  hu1, yu3(with) ru3(you) 

xie2(together) yin3(hide) ." Sui4(this way) yin3 er2 si3(died).

    Jin4 Hou2 qiu2(look for) zhi1 bu4 huo4(get), yi3(use) Mian2 shang4 wei2(as)i

 zhi1(his) tian2(field), yue1 :" Yi3 zhi4(remember) wu2(my) guo4(mistake), 

qie3(and) jing1(cite) shan4(good) ren2(man) ."



*** Xian4 Gong1 ***: Jin4 Xian4 Gong1
*** Hui4, Huai2 ****: Jin4 Hui4 Gong1 and Jin4 Huai2 Gong1
*** Chong2 Er3 *** : Jin4 Wen2 Gong1

    Sorry for the mistakes in the translations, some words are just
difficult to say in English.

    Jin4 Wen2 Gong1 (Chong2 Er3) looked for Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1 but could not
find him, he heard Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1 fled to Moutain Mian2. Wen2 Gong1 set fire
to the mountain to force Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1 to come out. But finally, he found
Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1 and his mother sat under a tree and died because of the fire.
So Wen2 Gong1 was very regretful, and so, there comes the "Han2 Shi2 Jie2".
(Is is lunar calender "zheng1 yue4 chu1 wu3" or some other time? )