HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dhanda@skorpio.usask.ca (Madhuri Dhanda)
Subject: Identification of singer
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:40:27 GMT


Hello netters,
                I am not able to recognize the singers in the 
song "Aap se humko bichde hue ek zamana beet gaya ..."
Can someone please identify the singers. I believe it's an old song.

Thanks.

Madhuri

(P.S : Thanks to all those who clarified the meanings of the urdu 
words commonly used in film songs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: gopal@tamsun.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday to Lata Mangeshkar
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:19:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.150145.21191@wuecl.wustl.edu> gokhale@wucs1.wustl.edu (Aniruddha Gokhale) writes:
>Today is Lata Mangeshkar's Birthday. She has completed 50 years of
                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^
>playback singing. A grand function is being held at the Shivaji Park
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>ground in Bombay to honor her for achieving this. In fact the function
>must be on its way while I am posting this news. There is going to be
>a live telecast of this function.

 Just a little nitpicking.There seems to be something wrong with the above
information.Lata started her 'playback career' only in 1946-47.As a child she
sang in the radio programmes and might have also sung in some public functions.
But I cannot understand how that counts as part of her 'playback career'.

She was born in 1927(or28) if I am right and in 1942 she would have been just
14 and I am sure you will know that is not the age when a singer might start
her 'playback career'.

  Maybe they just need an excuse to hold a function :-)

gopal
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Urmila in Chamatkaar
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:55:19 GMT
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL

Hi!

Was watching a movie named Chamatkaar, which had a young lady named
Urmila along with Shukkur Khan and Naseeruddin Shah.  Can anybody
confirm whether she was the elder sister in Masoom also with Naseer...
and Shabana Azmi?  Also why did Naseer... agree to do a shaky movie
like that?

Thanks,
Sanjoy Ghosh
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: ashishsb@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ashish Bokil)
Subject: Re: O Meri Zoraazabi, Tujhe Maloom Nahin...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:19:59 GMT

rajiv@me.uta.edu (Rajiv Chakravarti) writes:

>In article <1992Sep26.034521.3750@access.usask.ca> dhanda@skorpio.usask.ca (Madhuri Dhanda) writes:
>   There are some other words used very commonly in film songs but I do not
>   know their meaning.

>   Some such words are:

>   1. Khudai (I know what khuda is - God)

>   2. Rusva

>   3. Hamnasheen

>   4. Sahid

>   5. Saaqi

>   6. Takrar


>   Can the knowledgeable netters please post their meanings.
>   Thanks in advance.

>   Madhuri.

>----------------------

>Hello Madhuri,

>	Maybe I can be of some help .... 

>	1. khudaai = strangely enough does not have anything
>			to do with GOD, it means "madness".
>	2. ruswaa = be-izzati.
>        3. Hamnasheen = a companion.
>        4. Sahid = never heard this one , perhaps you mean one of the 
>		following: (?)
>		shaheed = martyr
>		shahad = honey
>		saahil = shore 
>	5. Saaqi = a person who serves wine (usually a lady)
>	6. Takraar = a clash/disturbance/dispute

>Hope that helps.....

>Regards.

>--
>=====================================================================
>Rajiv Chakravarti
>Dept. of Aerospace Engineering
>University of Texas at Arlington

>rajiv@utacfd.uta.edu                             rajiv@me.uta.edu
>---------------


 Madhuri & Rajiv,
        Namaskar !
  
It seems some of the above meanings do require corrections which are as follows

           Khudai incidently has to do something,as Madhiri rightly
points out , with Khuda and means God's work.

           Rusva means causing embarassment and not be-izzati which
can actually be translated to insult or `Apmaan'.
  
           Hope these corrections prove to be sufficient.


Ashish S Bokil
Dept. of Textiles
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

---- (ashishsb@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)-------

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: ani@ms.uky.edu (Anirudha B. Deglurkar)
Subject: Ijaazat Songs
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:52:34 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

	I am looking for songs from the movie 'Ijaazat'. If anyone has
	them, please let me know.... and I can send a cassette over for
	the recording. I hope the R.D--Gulzar fans will surely have it.

	Thanx,
	Aniruddha.
	(ani@ms.uky.edu)
-- 

To iterate is human, to recurse, divine.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: jasjit@cc.gatech.edu (Jasjit Singh)
Subject: Re: A SEXIST QUERY !!
Reply-To: jasjit@cc.gatech.edu (Jasjit Singh)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.225719.18949@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> aksimha@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Gerd Von Rundstedt) writes:
>In article <1akld4INN26k@bigboote.WPI.EDU> suren@ee.WPI.EDU (Surender Mohan) writes:
>>In article <80960@ut-emx.uucp> sumeet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sumeet) writes:
>>>Hi, netgurus. I have a question. We have so many songs in which the male extols
>>>the virtues of the female, and makes lofty comparisons of her to the
>>>elements of nature etc. Are there any songs in which the female does the
>>>same for her guy ? Sure would be interesting to know. I am not referring to
>>>duets in which both praise each other. I want to know if there are any female
>>>solos in which the lady eulogizes her lover. Seems a bit sexist to me.(But then
>>>hasn't the Indian society traditionally been so ?!)
>>>
>>>Cheerio.
>>>Sumeet Hingorani
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Right now I can remember some songs : -
>>
>>1. Mere mehboob mein kya nahin ,
>>   Vo to lakhon mein hain ek hasin. ( This is fron an old movie )
>>
>>2. Mera sanam sabse pyaara hai, sabse pyaara hai ("Dil Ka Kya Kusoor")
>> (Female version - Sadhna Sargam or Alka Yagnik)
>> P.S. : this was sung separately by male (K. Shanu) too.
>>
>>
>>Surender.
>
>
>
>
>
>   1. Na Jao Siayan Chuddha ke baiyan,
>      Kasam tumhari, mein ro padongi - Sahib Biwi aur Ghulam.
>
>   
>   2. Mere Mehboob na ja, aaj ki raat na ja,
>
>   
>   3. Hansta huan Noorani Chehra,
>      Kali Zulfein Rang Sunehra,
>      Teri Jawani Toba Toba Re,
>      Dilrub Dilruba
>
>
>  etc., etc.,
>
>
>  Arun Simha
> 
>>
>
>


How about -

1] Too mera janu hai...

2] Karte hain ham pyar Mr. India se...

-Jasjit
---------------------------------------------------------------
Jasjit Singh              jasjit@cc.gatech.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: vs@cs.brown.edu (Vinay H. Srihari)
Subject: Re: A SEXIST QUERY !!
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:30:55 GMT

In article <80960@ut-emx.uucp>, sumeet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sumeet) writes:
|> Hi, netgurus. I have a question. We have so many songs in which the male extols
|> the virtues of the female, and makes lofty comparisons of her to the
|> elements of nature etc. Are there any songs in which the female does the
|> same for her guy ? Sure would be interesting to know. I am not referring to
|> duets in which both praise each other. I want to know if there are any female
|> solos in which the lady eulogizes her lover. Seems a bit sexist to me.(But then
|> hasn't the Indian society traditionally been so ?!)
|> 

A couple of songs come to mind, but they don't exactly extol any male virtues - it's more
a description of the "traditional" relationship between a 'pativrata' and her husband! 
"Tumhi meri manzil, tumhi meri puja" (Milan), "Aapki nazron ne samjha", "Aji rooth kar
ab kahan jaayeyega" to name a few. The second one mentioned has some particularly
interesting lyrics:

Aapki nazron ne samjhaa, pyaar ke kaabil mujhe
Dil ki yeh dhadkan thaher jaa, mil gayee manzil mujhe....

Jee humay manzoor hai, aapka yeh faisla
Kah raha hai har taraf, banda parvar shukriya...

-Vinay
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: konkar@bimini.stanford.edu (Ranjit Konkar)
Subject: Re: Help
Reply-To: Ranjit Konkar <konkar@sunrise.stanford.edu>
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:41:15


   |> 1) Sooraj ki garmi se, jalte hue tan se,
   |>    Mil jaaye taruvar ki chhaya
   |> 
   Film: Parinay
   Singer(s): Sharma Bandhu
   Music: Jaidev

Can someone post the lyrics of this song, too?

Ranjit
From: partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Old Tamil Song recordings needed
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:23:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.43476
Distribution: na
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering


Does anyone have the recordings of the following songs? These are
quite old and I haven't been successful in getting them recorded
in Madras.

(1) Vasantha Kaalam Varumo, Nilai Maarumo ... - P Susheela, Jesudoss

(2) Unnai Enni Ennai Maranthen .............. - P Susheela

(3) Naan Unnai Serntha Selvam, Nee Ennai Aalum Deivam - PB Srinivas

(4) Nejathile Nee Netru Vanthaai............. - P Susheela

If some one has either one or all of these songs, I'd like
to have a copy for me. I'll send the tape and pay for the postage.

Pl. contact me at partha@mse.ogi.edu

Partha sarathy
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: Help
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:01:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.005901.29501@cs.wisc.edu> gopala@cs.wisc.edu (Venkatasubramanian Gopalakrishnan) writes:
<Superb verses of "Sooraj ki garmi se" deleted>

Could we also have the lyrics of yet another Sharma Bros gem?:
"Tera mera mera tera mera tera tera mera yahin Prabhu ki maaya"

Rajan Parrikar
==============
email: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu


>
>==========================================================================
>Venkatasubramanian Killukudi Gopalakrishnan	Email: gopala@cs.wisc.edu
>Graduate Student				Ph: Res: (608) 259-1228
>Computer Sciences Department			    Off: (608) 262-9822
>Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
>			    "Be yourself, you can't do it wrong!"
>==========================================================================


Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: ramamani@engr.UVic.CA (Subramanian  Ramamani)
Subject: Raga Vs Film Songs
Reply-To: ramamani@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:40:14 GMT


Could anyone please identify the ragas for the following Malayalam film songs.
	Song			Movie
	1. Pularkalam		Neethipeetham
	2. Rithumathiyay	Mazhanilav
	3. kallippalakal	Panchavankad
	5. Kalpantha kalatholam	Udayam Kizhaku Thanne

Thanks in advance
Subu(ramamani@sirius.uvic.ca)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: kulki@cs.toronto.edu (Dattatraya Kulkarni)
Subject: Dr. L Subramaniam in Toronto
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: usa, canada
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:39:01 GMT




				   SPIC-MACAY
                          University of TORONTO Chapter

				   presents a

			      LECTURE DEMONSTRATION
				       by

				Dr L. SUBRAMANIAM
           	    accompanied by Prakash Rao on the Miridangam

				on Oct 6th, 1992 ( 6pm )
					at
			     Debate Hall, Hart House
		              University of Toronto 


	For further info contact :
		kulki@cs.toronto.edu, or
		guptar@civ.toronto.edu

        Or call: Shashi Kant (416) 972-0638
                 Padam Prakash (416) 963-9490

(Keeping in mind numerous postings on Dr. Subramanim, and inability to 
describe a phenomenon that can only be experienced, I make the intro. short)


We are delighted to inaugurate the University of Toronto chapter of SPIC-MACAY
with Dr. L Subramaniam's violin concert. We are indeed very lucky and honoured 
to have Dr. Subramaniam for our opening concert. New York Time's description 
as "One of the best violinists of our time" sums it all. His mastery of the 
instrument and the creative genius are better witnessed than desribed in words.
His unquenchable thirst, and boundless creativity leads him to a synthesis 
of eastern and western music. 

	Prakash Rao, a disciple of Sudarshanacharylu, Vellore Ramabadran, 
and Ummayalpuram Sivaraman, has accompanied several artists including Ravikiran.

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: rsaripa@poe.cs.clemson.edu (Saripalli Ramakrishna)
Subject: Stop cluttering my personal mail!..............
Organization: Clemson University Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:48:13 GMT

Hi,


	If anybody is annoyed at my posting on this newsgroup for QB
	for AGRE,I must say that I posted it because I thought I could
	reach a potential audience.

		This is a question which I believe interests many people
	and judging by the replies I got,I think it is appropriate.

	
	Also I put my apologies to anyone who feels that it is
	inappropriate.

	So please stop sending me mail that it is inappropriate and
	for heavens sake stop cluttering my personal mail.


	My apologies if inappropriate.
Man is a beast and usually has no control over his passions.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: taravade@mueller.ecn.purdue.edu (Kunal N Taravade)
Subject: Re: Lyrics : Ye nayan dare dare
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date:  5 Oct 92 12:17:38 GMT

atul@epcc.ed.ac.uk (A Varshneya) writes:


>Could someone please post the lyrics of the song "Ye nayan dare dare".
>Also who is the singer ( Hemant Kumar ? ) and Music director ?

>Thanks,

>Atul

Film: Kohra
Singer: Hemant Kumar
Music: Hemant Kumar
Lyrics: Kaifi Azmi


-Kunal


Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: suneeta@tss.com (Suneeta Aggarwal (415)617-2428)
Subject: Thanks for condolences
Reply-To: suneeta@tss.COM
Organization: Teknekron Software Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:41:54 GMT

 

Thank you all for your sympathies.

I've received so many condolences regarding the sudden
passing away of my father-in-law that I'm not able to
respond to each one individually. 

/Suneeta

===============================================================
Suneeta Aggarwal

email:  suneeta@tss.com 
	uunet!tekbspa!suneeta

Teknekron Software Systems
Palo Alto, CA 
415-617-2428

=============================================================== 
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: pradeep@watson.ibm.com (Pradeep K. Dubey)
Subject: Re: Lyrics of "Phir kaheen koi phool khilaa"
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 19:38:07 GMT
Reply-To: pradeep@calcutta.watson.ibm.com (Pradeep K. Dubey)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Keywords: lyrics posted, manna dey, anubhav

In article <97551@bu.edu>, raj@cs.bu.edu (Rajagopalan) writes:
|> i saw a request for this song some time back and i have not seen it
posted yet.
|> so, here goes.
|> 
|> --------------------------------------------------------
|> Film: anubhav
|> Lyrics: kapil kumar
|> music: kanu roy
|> singer: manna dey
|> 
|> phir kaheen koi phool khilaa, chaahat naa kaho usko
|> phir kaheen koi deep jalaa, mandir naa kaho usko
|> 
|> man kaa samundar jaataa hua, kyon kisee se maange duaa
                    ^^^^^^^
I think "jaataa" should read "pyaasa"

|> lahron lagaa jo melaa, toofaan na kaho usko
|>                                             ...phir kaheen
|> 
|> 
|> dekhen kyon sab voh sapne, khud hee sajaaye jo hamne
|> dil usase bahal jaae to, raahat naa kaho usko
       ^^^^^
unse

|>                                              ...phir kaheen
|> 
|> -----------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> some comments:
|> 
|> corrections are welcome and appreciated. i think there should another
stanza to 
|> it but the cassette that i have only has these. i could not
understand the first   
|> "antara" (man kaa samundar...) very well. perhaps there is an error
in the transcription. if anyone has more of this song, kindly post or email me.
|> 
|> this is one of those potentially great lyrics which somehow did not
measure up 
|> to its own standards, imho. the refrain is great but the verses
(especially the first one) are not up to that level. the music is good
though. any comments on 
|> my comments?
|> 
|> i do not know anything else about the movie. what are the other
songs? are there 
|> any superlative scores from kanu roy? 
|> 
|> on another string: anybody want to post the lyrics or otherwise
comment on outlandish but great music of "kaanhaa bole naa" from sangat?
(the music 
|> director was salil chaudhari).
|> 
|> -rajagopalan (raj@cs.bu.edu)
From: gopala@cs.wisc.edu (Venkatasubramanian Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Help
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:59:01 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In article <KONKAR.92Oct5114115@bimini.stanford.edu>, konkar@bimini.stanford.edu
 (Ranjit Konkar) writes:
|> 
|>    |> 1) Sooraj ki garmi se, jalte hue tan se,
|>    |>    Mil jaaye taruvar ki chhaya
|>    |> 
|>    Film: Parinay
|>    Singer(s): Sharma Bandhu
|>    Music: Jaidev
|> 
|> Can someone post the lyrics of this song, too?
|> 
|> Ranjit

Here goes,

Jaise sooraj ki garmi se, jalte hue tan ko <-- the jaise is defly. there and the
					       last word is ko and not se
Mil jaaye taruvar ki chhaaya
Aisa hi sukh mere man ko mila hai,
Main jabse sharan teri aaya Mere Raam
Sooraj ki ... chaaya

Bhatka hua mera man tha koyi,
Mil na raha thha sahaara
Lahron se ladti hui naav ko
Jaise Mil na raha ho kinaara, mil na raha ho kinaara
Us ladkhadati hui naav ko jo
Kisi ne kinaara dikhhaaya,
Aisa hi sukh .... sooraj...chaaya

Sheetal bane aag chandan ke jaisi
Raaghav krupa ho jo teri
Ujiyaali poonam ki ho jaayen raaten
Jo thhin amaavas andheri, jo thhin amaavas andheri
Yug-yug se pyaasi maro bhoomi ne
Jaise saavan ka sandes paaya
Aisa hi sukh .... sooraj...chaaya

Jis raah ki manzil teraa milan ho
Us par kadam main badhhaaoon
Phoolon mein khaaron mein, pathjadh bahaaron mein,
Main na kabhi dagmagaaoon, main na kabhi dagmagaaoon
Paani ke pyaase ko taqdeer ne	  <--
Jaise jeebhhar ke amrit pilaayaa  <-- excellent lines
Aisa hi sukh .... sooraj...chaaya


Bye
KGB
(also KGV, Venkat, etc)

==========================================================================
Venkatasubramanian Killukudi Gopalakrishnan	Email: gopala@cs.wisc.edu
Graduate Student				Ph: Res: (608) 259-1228
Computer Sciences Department			    Off: (608) 262-9822
Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
			    "Be yourself, you can't do it wrong!"
==========================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Subject: Re: O Meri Zoraazabi, Tujhe Maloom Nahin...
Reply-To: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:52:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.034521.3750@access.usask.ca>, dhanda@skorpio.usask.ca (Madhuri Dhanda) writes:
|> 
|> There are some other words used very commonly in film songs but I do not
|> know their meaning.
|> 
|> Some such words are:
|> 
|> 1. Khudai (I know what khuda is - God)

Khudai means the creations of God, i.e., this world.

|> 
|> 2. Rusva

It's like "roothna." Cannot think of a suitable English word though.
It's like being angry at your lover, but it's more passive than active.
Am I making sense? :-)

|> 
|> 3. Hamnasheen

Literally, one who is as drunk as myself. Or one who can make me
feel drunk or high (due to her beauty or whatever)?

|> 
|> 4. Sahid

Fellow traveller? Pure guess really. "Shahid" is martyr.

|> 
|> 5. Saaqi

The person who serves the drinks.

|> 
|> 6. Takrar

Argument.

|> Madhuri.

Cheers,

-Prince

-- 
pkohli@cc.gatech.edu      | "What's so unpleasant about getting drunk?" 
Distributed Systems Group,| "Ask a glass of water."   Hitchhikers'....
College of Computing, Georgia Tech.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: vallury@mesun2.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Vallury Prabhakar)
Subject: Band-name suggestions invited
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:22:58 GMT

I'm looking for an imaginative name for a band that performs
Indian film and light tunes.  I need a name that suggests 
power and/or vitality.  We tend to pack in strong percussion
and rock-like rhythms, so I find names such as Sur-sangeet,
Jhankaar, Geetmala, etc. uninteresting and not relevant in
our case.

Would be nice to find a Hindi or Urdu thesaurus for this
purpose.  Does such a thing exist?

Anyway, I look forward to some creative suggestions.  

Enjoy.

-- Vallury Prabhakar
-- rustcat@sunrise.stanford.edu
-- [415] 725-0163
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: rgshenoi@athena.mit.edu (Rajesh G Shenoi)
Subject: Re: Lyrics request: hum honge kaamyaab
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:57:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.154521.23851@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Sujatha writes

>Hum Honge Kamyaab 
>honge kaamyaab
>hum honge kaamyaab ek din
>O man mein hai vishwas
>pura hai vishwas
>hum honge kaamyaab ek din
>
>1. nahin dar kisi ka aaj
>   bhay kisi ka aaj
>   nahin dar kisi ka aaj din ke din
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	This should be "nahin dar kisi ka aaj ke din"

>   O man mein hai vishwas
>   pura hai vishwas
>   hum honge kaamyaab ek din
>  
>2. hogi shaanti chaaron oar
>   shanti charon oar
>   hogi shaanti chaaron oar ek din
>   O man mein hai vishwas
>   pura hai vishwas
>   hum honge kaamyaab ek din
 
Another verse is

	Hum chalenge saath saath
	daal haathon mein haath
	hum chalenge saath saath ek din
	O man me hai vishwas
	pura hai vishwas
	hum chalenge saath saath ek din

Have fun,
Shenoi

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: baindur@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Satyen G Baindur)
Subject: Re: Lyrics request: hum honge kaamyaab
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:42:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.154521.23851@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> sujatha@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Sujatha Nagarajan) posts lyrics of 'Hum Honge Kamyaab'

I just thought I'd mention as a trivia tidbit that this song is a direct 
translation of 'We Shall Overcome ...some day' - some say a not very 
good translation. The latter was used  extensively to inspire activists 
during the US Civil Rights movement during the 1960s. The former, on the 
other hand, served as a propaganda song during the Emergency (1975-77) 
in India, and has some unpleasant connotations for a few people. 
An earlier version of 'We Shall Overcome' was used by union organizers 
in the early decades of this century in the US to inspire workers to 
stand up to the hoods, goons and toughs employed by factory owners to 
cow them down.

Satyen
-- 
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Satyen Baindur  (baindur@eta.pha.jhu.edu)
Physics and Astronomy
Johns Hopkins University
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: tirumala@cae.wisc.edu (Vadakpat Tirumalai)
Subject: Hindi translation of Rubaiyat
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:22:56 CDT

I am reading the translation of Rubaiyat into english by Edward Fitzgerald,
and was wondering if there is any Hindi translation of the same.
The 'philosophy' of the peot is pretty close to a lot of Indian poets.
Especially Ghalib.  

Thanks for any info.

cheers
-V.C.Tirumalai
tirumala@cae.wisc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc