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From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Why is a Harley so easy to push?
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:14:34 GMT

In article <3880111@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:
|> / hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) /  3:12 am  Aug 12, 1992 /
|> 
|> Q: Why is a Harley so easy to push?
|> A: ?
|> ----------
|> Hey John!
|> 
|> Look at it this way, the harder it is to push, the less likely it is
|> to need pushing!
|> 
|> The easier it is to push, the more likely it is to need pushing!
|> 
|> Now for my question::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
|> 
|> Q: What's the longest distance anyone has pushed a Lead Wing?
|> A:

I pushed my BMW 2 miles when the condensor blew (luckly mostly
down hill).

laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Current Harlye Craze and Women
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:39:53 GMT

In article <Stafford-190892122049@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
> Yer right, Ed.  I don't know shit.  Tell me about it,
> oh Keeper of the 'tude.  (I appreciate your efforts,
> and your expertise in MC but women?  Ah, let's take
> it outside, OK?)

What's this crap?  I'm Keeper of the 'Tude and I'm not Ed Green.  Ed is
Keeper of the [flat line.................]

- Roid
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint
Date: 18 Aug 1992 13:21:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 25008@isc-br.isc-br.com, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
>
>Who wants to control reproductive freedom? Liberals? Conservatives?

Mostly conservatives.

>Who wants to control what you read and watch? Liberals? Conservatives? 

And listen to?  Tipper.

>Who claims exclusive commitment to "family values?" Liberals?
>Conservatives?

Yes.

>Who maintains American culture is under attack by those who are 
>different (e.g. Gays, Blacks, Single Mothers)? Liberals? Conservatives?

Yes.

>Who wants to be your mother? Liberals? Conservatives? 

Who wants to be your nurse and nanny? (national health care).

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Popping Them
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:19:27 GMT
Reply-To: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <16j79fINNogm@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>[talking about wheelies]
>
>Any R100GS or PD owners out there ever manage to wheelie?
>(Not that I'd ever try such a thing, but I'm trying to
>find out if my lack of success is due to technique or
>physical impossibility.)
>
>-
>-John H. Osborn
>-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
>-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar

At the last ERC I attended, the assistant instructor wheelied his GS several
times after class.  He braked a bit to compress the forks, then whacked it.
He told me that if he had enough room, he could keep it up clear through 2nd.
After that, the cumulative lean from the longitudinal crank caused him to
veer too far off course!
















--
David Wise	davewi@orca.wv.tek.com
DoD#427		1980 CX500C (Packy)	Guzzi T3: coming soon to a DW near you
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Photo Radar
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> two.  We can't be talking about anything too complicated.  Someone
-> should have an idea of how to defeat photo radar.

 Texas tried it in the mid '60s.  It didn't take long before angry
Texans found it was simple to smear a handful of dog shit or mud over
the lens of the camera.  Enterprising individuals just wrapped a chain
around the whole unit and ripped it off.

 The police wound up delegating one cop per machine (the machines were
called ORBIS) for security, then realized since they were paying the cop
anyway... he might as well just write the tickets.

 Several other companies have "invented" photo radar since, and sold
them in various places in the US and Germany.  Most of them met with the
same problems as ORBIS, not to mention the troubles with liability (in
most states, you're not liable for someone else's speeding ticket, even
if they're driving your car).


* DoD #978 * I'm a personal acquaintance of Jack Shit
From: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Automatics
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:26:21 GMT
Reply-To: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <92230.113055RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET (Robert Chambers) writes:
>Didn't Honda have an automatic?  CX-550 or something?  it was a V-twin..
>
>they probably didn't make too many of them tho
>
>Robert
>DoD191

I'm sure I'm going to miss a detail or two on this, since I only know
the US models, but the only CXs ever made were the 400 (Europe/Japan only),
the 500, and the 650, with turbo versions available for the latter two.

No automatics.

On the other hand, Moto Guzzi made a fairly successful 1000cc automatic,
the Convert (for Torque Converter), in the mid-'70s.



Thanks again to Robert for appraising the Guzzi T3 that's on a truck
bound for my town.
--
David Wise	davewi@orca.wv.tek.com
DoD#427		1980 CX500C (Packy)	Guzzi T3: coming soon to a DW near you
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Siddharth.Soni@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni)
Subject: deerskin gloves
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:33:22 GMT

There is a deerskin "trading post" nearby that sells many different things
including gloves.  

Are these generally good enough for motorcycling? (They are only $30)

Has anyone used (crash-tested) deerskin gloves that are 
not specifically made for motorcycling?

Sidd
EMAIL:ssoni@csnext.colgate.edu
9199

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
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From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:20:13 GMT

In <5676@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>   The same rule applies to drunks, let them pass then keep an eye on them 
>from behind, it is safer.

	I disagree.  If a drunk causes an accident and you're following,
guess where you are headed?  Yup, right towards the accident and the
other drivers swerving to stay out of the carnage.  I pass them and speed
on to the next exit, whereupon I find a pay phone and call in his plate,
speed, direction, and all that other nice stuff.  Then I head back onto
the road, secure in the knowledge that a state trooper will soon pass
me at 95mph intent on nailing this idiot.  When I then happen upon a
drink driver being cuffed and stuffed into the back of a patrol car, the
joy felt is worth the measly five minutes of time I spent.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >

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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Braking Distances (was Re: Scooters and a non-flame for RKOU)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:43:36 GMT

In article <5702@osc.COM> ben@osc.COM (Ben Sloss) writes:

>> Do motorcycles stop faster than cars?

>The question has also been raised, can a motorcycle stop faster than the
>*average* driver in the *average* car?  Well, sure, an expert on a 
>sportbike will stop faster the joe schmo in his (non-abs-equipped) 4-door
>sedan.  The result is meaningless, however.  The *average* motorcyclist
>on the *average* motorcycle will stop SLOWER than the aforementioned
>car driver.  It is easier to approach the limits of adhesion in a car.

you can't take the data from pro riders/drivers and apply it to the common
herd.  the average driver mashs the brake pedal in a panic stop, and he
doesn't go to a parking lot every other weekend to practice.  bikers are
acutely aware of what too much front brake will do, causing them to think
much more about avoiding "grabbing" and modulating instead.  assuming the
'average cager' to be the brain-dead volvo-passenger we've experienced, and
the 'average biker' to be .... just like us.

>grabbing a handful of front brake will result
>in a quick 'asphalt customization' of both bike and rider.

of the many "i dropped my bike" stories i've read here in the past year,
not one was caused by a rider locking the front brake (to the best of my
selective memory :-).

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|  "I twisted from between his knees.  We came on our feet together.       |
|  "The doorbell rang."                                                    |
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From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: what kind of oil needed for winter storage??
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:48:06 GMT

pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn) writes:

>In article <viking.714189157@vincent1.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu

>Please don't do this to your motorcycle.  Used oil *has* water and 
>acids in it.  That's not much of a problem when your motorcycle is 
>being used regularly, but when it's just sitting there those acids and
>water are doing bad things to the insides of the engine.  Firing it up
>once a month or so makes it worse.  If you don't run the engine long 
>enough to get it to operating temperature for a while (like riding it
>over 5-10 miles.) the combution products (acid and water and other
>nasty things) pollute the oil even more. 

	When I fire it up, I don't shut it off until I get oil temperature
of at least 280 degrees.  Does this help or hinder the problems you
and others have pointed out?

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Current Harlye Craze and Women
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:34:33 PDT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1992Aug16.000600.1017@msus1.msus.edu>, stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
> 
> Re: Current Harley Craze and Women
> 
> 	It is well known around the world that the typical
> 	American woman is a materialistic slut.  It only
> 	follows then that the Yuppie is another invention
> 	to please them.  Real Men build their own motorcycles
> 	and they don't include a passenger seat.

what you obviously don't know about women and yuppies does not
indicate to me that you necessarily know horsespit about anything
else important, including building a motorcycle.
 
-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
From: edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Reno Air Races
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:41:26 GMT
Reply-To: edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu ()
Distribution: na
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

It's September again, which means that it is time for the Reno Air
Races.  Can Rare Bear break it's own record for the fourth year in
a row?  Do those 18 Nitrous injected cylinders have what it takes
to hold off the Mustangs?  Yes, folks, the ground does shake when
Rare Bear goes by.  Will all the "big boys" go up in smoke and a
tiny 28 clyinder, 4360 cubic inch, 4000+ h.p. @ 1700 rpm
Super Sea Fury (go Dreadnaught!) be waiting in the wings (groan)
to take advantage of the situtation?

Who knows?  You'll all have to come and see for yourselves.  This
will, of course, involve drinking beer, eating good food, and
general social interaction.

The races are September 17-20, with the finals, which are by far
the best races on Sunday.  Qualifying takes place Monday through
Wednesday, at which time admission is free and the pits are open.
Air race days also include a comprehensive air show with both
military and civilian participants. 

We have access to a house on the back stretch of the course which
gives a wonderful view of the Unlimiteds and AT-6 races (better
than the grand stands), and a good view of most of the rest of the
activities.

Beer and soft drinks will be provided, and BBQs will be availiable.
We do this pot luck style, making runs to the store as required for
supplies.  I don't think anyone has gone away hungry!  There are a
couple of spare rooms and a large yard for tents and a camper or
two.  We may even try and scare up a hot tub. 

You will want to bring:  
Lawn chairs, binoculars, cameras, something to BBQ (there is shopping 
close), and a warm jacket.  The weather is quite unpredictable this
time of year.  It could be 90 degrees or snowing, maybe both on the
same weekend.

For info and "reservations" contact: 
Ed Hackett
15425 Callahan Ranch Road
Reno, NV   89511
(702) 849-1448 (H)
(702) 673-7380 (W)
Email:  edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu

Directions:
From I-80 East or West, take 395 North (freeway, toward Susanville)
to the Red Rock exit.  Turn right on Red Rock and go 3 miles to
Longhorn.  Turn right in Longhorn and follow until it dead-ends
into Osage Road.  Turn left onto Osage and go .6 mile to 11550
Osage Road.

 Ed Hackett   edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu     "Life is a sexually     
 DoD #0200  WMTC  BMWRA  DIOC             transmitted disease that
 KotLS  KotLE  KotD #0003                 is always fatal".     
 DUCATI 900SS  BMW K100RS
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 18 Aug 1992 13:17:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 9407@tcsi.com, skao@booboo.tcs.com (Simon Kao) writes:
>Dana writes:
>
>.... [David said] you simply need to push on the gas tank with your knee
>to make the bike steer. This doesn't sound like counter-steering at all.
>
>To which I say: Yes, it is, but it's hidden from the user. That is to
>say, if you use your left knee to push against the tank, in order to
>balance yourself, you will unconciously lessen your push on the left
>handlebar, which is equivalent to pushing the right handlebar, which 
>results in countersteering to instigate a turn to the right.

I concur.

And the fact that Reg Pridmore can sit astride a BMW on its centerstand
and rock the bike back and forth with his lower body means less than
nothing, in terms of steering it on the track.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters 
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:25:18 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Aug14.153146.16745@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
> 
> 	Last night while happily riding down the road, this cager comes up
> 	behind me.  Not just behind me, but practically up my arse... 

pasker's rule #37 of getting through traffic quickly : 

when approaching a light with cars already stopped in front of you,
get behind the vehicle which is most likely to move off the line
quickest. usually this means one driven by a high school- or
college-aged male. make sure you get close up behind him so that he
feels somewhat intimidated; this will increase his rate of
accelleration (you math. & physicists will know the "technical" term
for change in rate of accelleration) and you will be on your way in
no time.

> 	I felt like starting to put the sidestand down at the light, and make
> 	like I was going to approach the cage.  But, better judgement
> 	prevailed (arghh), and when the light went green, I left him 
> 	far-away-ville.  

see how well it worked?

> 	What would YOU do ?

flip the kill switch to "off" and then spend 5 minutes trying to
restart (or at least until he gets around you).  *that* will piss off
the driver more than anything else.  of course, blasting past him,
stopping in front of him at the next light and doing the same maneuver
will square his anger level. 

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cars-v-bikes
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:07:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug12.200710.13144
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug12.164902.6887@ncsu.edu> steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
>jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>
>Oh yeah?!!!  Well *my* bike does quarters in negative time!  And it stops
>before it starts, too!!!  So there! :-P

Try giving it a little more gas, and let the clutch out more slowly.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
Which is worse: using vast wealth to trounce a small country on the battlefield,
or using vast wealth to trounce several countries on the basketball court?
From: klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: windshields
Keywords: Cold weather sux but windshields help!
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:02:00 GMT
Distribution: rec


In Message <1992Aug19.121020.21691@rchland.ibm.com>
pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn) responds to Stefan thusly:

>In article <1992Aug18.171040@is.morgan.com>, spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) writes:
>|> . . . The commuter
>|> bike is an '82 KZ 550, and I was thinking of adding a windscreen to get out
>|> of the cold wind. So what's the net.wisdom on these things. How big a piece
>|> of plexiglass do I have to get before I get a good effect. Any brand name
>|> recommendations? Looks btw are seconday. I've resigned myself to looking
>|> goofy while it's cold.
>|> 
>|> Stef 
>
>Plexfairing II.  I had one on my '80 KZ440 and it worked well and didn't
>look any more goofy than the motorcycle.  It worked (and looked, in my 
>opinion) better than the Quicksilver fairing I tried first and had the 
>advantage of being easily removable in about 5 minutes without any tools. 
>
>      *********some stuff deleted here************

If you're interested in cold weather protection, I'd recommend the
Plexifairing III rather than the II.  It has all of the advantages
ot the II (quick, toolless removal) but is a bit higher, wider AND
it has little lowers which extent down the fork tubes about to the
point where the upper tube enters the lower.  These things work!
I had one on a Virago and noticed a BIG difference in the cold air blast
on my knees and thighs when I had by feet in the highway pegs, out of
the protected zone, and when they were on the standard pegs.  Also,
the III gives a little better protection for the hands.  

I now ride a Gold Wing and, except for the much better lower leg protection
of the Wing's fairing, the Plexifairing III provided nearly as good
an air envelope, particularly in the chest and head area.  Competition
Accessories has them for a good price.

--
Ken Franklin 	They say there's a heaven for people who wait
AMA #553197 	And some say it's better but I say it ain't
DoD # 0126      I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
		The sinners are lots more fun, Y'know only the good die young
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Current Harlye Craze and Women
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:20:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.201321.27877@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

>Of course, based on your .edu e-mail address, we could just all infer
>that you have insufficient experience to have a valid opinion on
>women anyhow.  (Ohoh!  Now I've done it!)

watch it!  i have a .edu mailpath, but i've dated literally three or four
shee-- oh, women?  forget it.

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
|       Don't look to me for proof that women get off easier than men.     |
|                               -- Evelyn                                  |
|                                                                          |
|       I've been doing OK lately with a hand pump.    -- Chuck Karish     |
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From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Silly Indian Question
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:21:22 GMT
Expires: 31 Aug 92 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

|In article <524@texbell.sbc.com> lm8637@tnessd.sbc.com (Lou Montgomery (214+464-1049)) writes:
|>In article <16a15sINNneu@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
|>>Not that I can afford to buy one, I'm just curious:
|>>How suitable is an old Indian for daily use these days?
|>
|>        Hey John, if you don't mind too much, could you please take
|>       this to alt.sex.bondage.geriatic? Sheesh, this *IS* rec.MC
|>       fer goodness sake.      ,
|>                             -(B-)=
|>                               '

Lou, what's the difference?  Old Indians, old Harley's, old scumbags - you 
of all people should be the most aware of this...BTW - glad you could drop
in from A.S.B.G to pay us a visit. (Or did you give that S.W. Bell News 
feed of yorn a dose of electronic Ex-Lax and all of a sudden find your system
bulging at the seams from old posts dating back to last Thanksgiving?)

 	Oh-lay

	Rich


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
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