HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: neal@writer.yorku.ca (Neal Stephenson)
Subject: What happens to Senator Gore's term as Senator now VP?
Keywords: 
	1)no longer a senator and there must be an election to
	2)able sit in a dual role on both sides of the Senate floor?
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: alt.politics.use.misc
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:46:10 GMT

	3)none of the above.

I have had an extensive historical and political teachings in US
governmental process.  This question just popped into my head and i
didn't know how to answer it, so i put it to YOU on the net.
Show me your wisdom and wit....
Cheers....
Neal Stephenson
neal@writer.yorku.ca
"Don't worry dear, he can't find the gun..."
"The Best I Can" -Queensryche..._Empire_



Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: A Copper Balloon
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:49:51 GMT

In article uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us, jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel)  writes:
> [in response to Jyrki's rant]
>
>     I surely  hope your post was  'tongue in cheek' [...etc...]

For those of you who don't get out much, Jyrki Kuoppala is one of the
most hardcore fanatical libertarians on the net.  For him to post a
SERIOUS bigoted racist etc tirade would require nothing less than a
complete brain transplant.

If you'll read his article again, you'll notice (I hope) that he's
merely parroting the excuses our government uses to rationalize their
increasing stranglehold on our personal lives.  THEY are the bigoted
racist etc pigs you should be angry at.

Get a clue, folks.

thx
gak

---
Richard Stueven       AHA# 22584 |----------| He has erected a multitude of new
Internet:            gak@wrs.com |----GO----| offices, and sent hither swarms
ATTMAIL: ...!attmail!gakhaus!gak |---SHARX--| of officers to harass our people,
Cow Palace:            107/H/3-4 |----------| and eat out their substance.

Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com (Chris Terwilliger)
Subject: FDA
Organization: Motorola
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:53:06 GMT

Since this seems to be the forum to attack overfunded and mis-utilized federal
agencies, I thought I'd bring up the issue of the latest in the FDA's attempt
(or mis-attempt) to regulate food labels.  From the news reports I saw yester-
day, meat producers have been excepted from the label requirements because of
their intense lobbying efforts.  They obviously don't want labels telling us
how much saturated fat is contained in their products.  This means that a
frozen cheese pizza at your grocery store has to have a label declaring its
nutrient values and contents, but a sausage pizza made by the same company
does not!  What the hell are we paying these bozo bureaucrats for?  This 
agency exists to protect and serve the people, not the mega-corporations!  Of
course, this kind of agency attitude has been condoned and even encouraged
during the last 12 years...another benefit of the Reagan-Bush legacy I guess...




* Chris Terwilliger, KB7PPT                rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com *
* Motorola                        "And now, the sequence of events, *
* 2100 E. Elliot Rd. EL374         in no particular order."         *
* Tempe, AZ  85284                                     - Dan Rather *

Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: ah210@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeremy Gottlieb)
Subject: Re: What happens to Senator Gore's term as Senator now VP?
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:45:42 GMT


The Tennessee Governor will appoint someone to serve the next two
years, and then a special election will be held to fill out the
last two years of his term. (He was re-elected last in 90)
-- 
Jeremy Gottlieb				jgott@imsa.edu

Go hard or go home.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber)
Subject: Re: What happens to Senator Gore's term as Senator now VP?
Keywords: 1)no longer a senator and there must be an election to 2)able sit in a dual role on both sides of the Senate floor?
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Distribution: alt.politics.use.misc
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:40:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.044610.14505@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> neal@writer.yorku.ca (Neal Stephenson) writes:
>	3)none of the above.
>
>I have had an extensive historical and political teachings in US
>governmental process.  This question just popped into my head and i
>didn't know how to answer it, so i put it to YOU on the net.
>Show me your wisdom and wit....
>Cheers....

Tipper takes it!?!

I'm not sure if this varies by state or not, but my guess is that it
becomes a political appointment of the governor, subject to approval
by the state legislature.

Scott

Scott Barber	  "I voted for the crazy, bozo, ozone men."
barber@jazz.concert.net		"What is the freedom of the most
MCNC, RTP, NC, BVD 	 	 free?  To act rightly!" --Goethe
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  10-Nov-1992 0918)
Subject: Supreme Court?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 06:49:09 PST
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What would be the consequences of President Clinton nominating Anita Hill
to the Supreme Court?

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Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: pehe@electrum.kth.se (Peder Hedlund)
Subject: Land of the free ?
Organization: /home/electrum/elda91/pehe/.organization
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:04:01 GMT


         Are we having fun yet ?
        =========================

   Americans (politicians included) usually claim USA to be the finest
among countries, with 'liberty and justice for all'. When Russians are oppres-
sed, enslaved and under censorchip form their couvernment, the American man
stands free and able to speek his mind openly. Pheuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuw !
I've been watching some consert-clips and other stuff from the US of A and 
something that  has stricken me as somewhat funny is the fact that a word 
spelled F-U-C-K in most cases is pronounced "Bleeeep".
Here follows some comments on this :
   How can people in a country that has "Freedom of speech" as it's first 
amendment allow censors to delete and add 'bleeps' to their messages ?
Remember this ain't Russia folks ! If I'm not paying my full attention to the
TV it's most likely that the "F-word" will slip through my mind. However, if
the conversation suddenly is abrupted by a strong "Bleeeep" I sure as hell 
will notice that 'sumptins gwain on' and (since I'm not stupid) I prob'ly will
understand that there originaly was a (you guessed right) "fuck" or maybe
"fucking".
   People ! Swearwords will not (repeat NOT !) kill or in any way harm you.
They are merely vibrations of the air-molecules. You will not recieve an invi-
tation from the horned one for uttering a swearword (You may have to wash your
mouth with soap but that's as bad as it can be).

Stand up folks ! Unite ! Demand your right to yell "FUCK !", even on public 
radio or TV. If anyone finds that offensive remind them of the fantastic litte
button marked "OFF" on their TV or radio. Demand that Bill Clinton allows you
to say whatever you want. Demand an ending to the FCC control over the ether.


Peder Hedlund             |"Heaven would be a place where bullshit exists only
pehe@electrum.kth.se      | on television.(Hallelujah ! We's half way there !)"
Royal Technical Highscool |          Frank Zappa
Stockholm                 |
Sweden                    |
   
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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: [alt.society.civil-liberty] IRC or DEA & local police share the loot
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:37:09 GMT

A repost from alt.society.civil-liberty:

From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: Innocent until proven guilty?
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:59:50 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Let me preface my remarks by saying that I am the last person to
think that we free a hoodlum.
But the following news report seems to me to be a little unfair.
A person is caught bypassing the toll at a subway station.
He has over $10,000 on him.  The police are saying that if
the person with the money cannot prove that he earned it legally,
that they can take it.  (This seems to me to be opposed to our
system which presumes a person innocent until proven guilty.)

The complete text of the story follows:  
	NEW YORK (UPI) -- A subway fare-beating suspect from North Carolina
might wish he sprung for a cab Saturday, when Transit police stopped him
at a Midtown station and found he was carrying more than $10,000 in
cash.
	William Felix, 22, of 1206 Arlee St. in Greensboro, N.C., was
arrested for fare evasion about 11:55 a.m. after he slipped through a
turnstile without paying the $1.25 fare at the 42nd Street and Eighth
Avenue station, near the Port Authority bus terminal, said Transit
police spokesman Sgt. Luis Medina.
	``The gentleman was observed by two officers, who detained and
questioned him,'' Medina said.
	``He gave evasive answers and the officers subsequently arrested him.
When he was searched, they found he had stuffed in his two front trouser
pockets $10,187.96,'' the sergeant said.
	Officers Richard Fischer and James O'Connor of Transit Police
District 1 were working undercover on a fare evasion detail when they
stopped the North Carolina visitor, who did not resist and carried no
drugs or weapons.
	Asked the source of the money, Felix explained he saved it over the
last six months while working at a Burger King and Holiday Inn, Medina
said.
	A one-way bus ticket from Greensboro also was found in the man's
pockets, but the officers later discovered he was wanted by Nassau
County authorities on an outstanding warrant for criminal mischief,
Medina said.
	While carrying large sums of cash is not illegal, Felix was held
while the Long Island warrant and the source of the money was
investigated.
	``We do have an obligation to investigate whether this money was
legally obtained,'' Medina said.
	Meanwhile, unless Felix or someone else legitimately can claim the
money, investigators from the Drug Enforcement Administration or the
Internal Revenue Service are expected to share the funds with the
arresting agency.


-- 
 Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
 From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Congradulations to Clinton
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:05:10 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <1992Nov4.080506.4880@ousrvr.oulu.fi> dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas) writes:
]Well, we got rid of George Bush.  Now we just need to work on Clinton
]so that he impliments a progressive agenda, restores a progressive tax
]system, and slashes the military.
]
]The focus must be on rebuilding a country that started decaying by
]spending too much on weaponry and on aiding the rich, with no
]consideration of those of us who must work for a living.

Gee... does anyone suppose that this guy is a member of the new left?

A "progressive agenda" is a modern code word for socialism. A "progressive"
tax system is already in place, so presumably Mr. Foxvog Douglas really 
wants one that just confiscates all earnings above some level. The military
has already been slashed, and will soon be at its lowest level since
before the Korean War. This IMHO is pretty damned dumb, since the world
is actually more unstable now that the USSR has been replaced by a bunch
of unpredictable, economically hurting, nuclear armed countries.

But hey, some people thought we shouldn't have a military when the
USSR WAS a big threat, and I'll bet Mr. Douglas was one of those.

-- 
John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
"Government is the agent of those who are too refined to do their own mugging."
  Joseph Sobran
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: total votes for all candidates
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:42:03 GMT


---
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        I'm always more outspoken after a few pints of Guinness.
                - Mrs. E. Slocombe

Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: ah210@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeremy Gottlieb)
Subject: Re: Supreme Court?
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:46:52 GMT


And a big blow to his reelection campaign.
As well as him becoming the biggest presidential joke on Capitol
Hill since Carter.
-- 
Jeremy Gottlieb				jgott@imsa.edu

Go hard or go home.
From: peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
Subject: Re: FDA
Date: 11 Nov 1992 18:06:11 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cairo.crhc.uiuc.edu

rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com (Chris Terwilliger) writes:

| Since this seems to be the forum to attack overfunded and mis-utilized federal
| agencies, I thought I'd bring up the issue of the latest in the FDA's attempt
| (or mis-attempt) to regulate food labels.  From the news reports I saw yester-
| day, meat producers have been excepted from the label requirements because of
| their intense lobbying efforts.  They obviously don't want labels telling us
| how much saturated fat is contained in their products.  This means that a
| frozen cheese pizza at your grocery store has to have a label declaring its
| nutrient values and contents, but a sausage pizza made by the same company
| does not!  What the hell are we paying these bozo bureaucrats for?  This 
| agency exists to protect and serve the people, not the mega-corporations!

Actually these agencies exist to serve and protect the mega-corporations
from (a) state regulation and (b) competition from smaller and foreign
corporations.

Ask yourself whose is the louder voice in the ear of the FDA--the
consumer or the producer.  Ask yourself who comprises the "experts"
the FDA turns to to figure out its regulations--the consumer or the
producer.  Ask yourself who has a hundred and one excuses why this
or that proposal or regulation would be terribly harmful to it--the
consumer or the producer.

It is an ironic (but _inevitable_) result of politics that the people
we trust with our most important decisions are the most insulated from
pressures to succeed.  There is nothing you or I can do about anyone in
the FDA save get the President to fire him.  The President is the only
one in the chain of command accountable to the public at all, and her
election will rarely be contingent on what or how the FDA regulates.

| Of
| course, this kind of agency attitude has been condoned and even encouraged
| during the last 12 years...another benefit of the Reagan-Bush legacy I guess..

I think you're confusing your villains here.  Blame Teddy Roosevelt
for the FDA.  It was the attitude "condoned and even encouraged"
first during his administration that brought the detente between
mega-corporations and federal agencies and, in fact, government
regulation considered highly desireable by mega-corporations.

Mike Peercy
peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu

(Incidentally, it's the Dept. of Agriculture that is putting the stop
on the FDA's attempt to label all foods the same way.)
From: msheldon@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Marti Sheldon)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
Subject: Re: Does Bill Clinton have an e-mail address ?
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:32:05 GMT


That's supposed to be: 75300.3115@compuserve.com
					   ^
But wait a few days. The mailbox is full, as the proprietor
is on vacation.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: ah210@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeremy Gottlieb)
Subject: Re: Does Bill Clinton have an e-mail address ?
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:45:26 GMT


Clinton-HQ@campaign92.org

After he's inaugurated, of course.
-- 
Jeremy Gottlieb				jgott@imsa.edu

Go hard or go home.
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From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Disenfranchising the Minor Party Voters
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:22:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.usa.misc
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung) writes:

> Ixnay.  They do NOT allocate votes.  They simply remove them from the 
> calculations.

In the old Soviet Union they didn't count minor party votes either.
When I lived in Guatemala during the 1986 election, results were shown
for all serious candidates simultaneously (there were about 8 serious
candidates).  I guess that means that as far as disenfranchising minor
party voters, the US is somewhat less democratic than Guatemala but
somewhat more democratic than the Soviet Union.

Most minor party voters vote as they do as a form of protest.  But if
their votes aren't even counted (until long after media interest has
moved elsewhere), how can they express their opinions at the ballot
box?

--Scott
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill)
Subject: Re: Results for other than Demopublicans or Perot?
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:24:47 GMT

In article <aelman.720861320@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>, aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>jkp@cs.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>>
>>Why aren't results from the U.S. presidential election for others than
>>the governing party and the court jester told?
>
>Frankly, the reason is simply that there are no other candidates
>receiving significant portions of the vote.

And the reason no other candidates receive significant portions of the vote is
that they don't receive adequate press coverage.

And the reason they don't receive adequate press coverage is that they don't
receive significant portions of the vote and don't have $billions to spend.

-- 
Dave Sill (de5@ornl.gov)           For every Bill Joy there is a Kirk McKusick.
Martin Marietta Energy Systems     For every Bill Gates there is a Richard
Workstation Support                Stallman.                     --Paul Graham
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: cgladwish@trentu.ca (Colin Gladwish)
Subject: Health Care Info.!!!!! HELP!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:45:00 GMT


	I am a fourth year economics student who is working on an honours 
thesis on the american health care system.  I have been spending time 
looking in our library for info. on my topic, but my school's library 
leaves much to be desired.  Could anyone help me by posting the address(or 
e-mailing it to me) where I could get a copy of Bill Clinton's proposed 
changes to the health insurance system?

	I am also searching for stuff on the proposed changes in Oregon.  I 
beleive that the state legislature was wanting to place limits on HMO (or 
something like that) so that only the absolutely necessary stuff was 
covered.  Sound right??

	If anyone could help me they would have my undying gratitude and 
thanks for ever and ever.....

	Colin Gladwish
	e-mail at: cgladwish@trentu.ca
From: peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
Subject: Re: Supreme Court?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:33:15 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: cairo.crhc.uiuc.edu

d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  10-Nov-1992 0918) writes:

| What would be the consequences of President Clinton nominating Anita Hill
| to the Supreme Court?

A Constitutional amendment which states that any nomination to the
Supreme Court must be drawn from an immediately inferior federal
court or from the supreme court of one of the States.

Mike Peercy
peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: eks@daimi.aau.dk (Eigil Krogh S|rensen)
Subject: Does Bill Clinton have an e-mail address ?
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 02:44:54 GMT

If Bill Clinton has an e-mail address I'd like to hear about it.


thank you


  --- Eigil
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc
From: sxj@cs.bham.ac.uk (Sharon A Jones)
Subject: Re: Does Bill Clinton have an e-mail address ?
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:56:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.024454.9646@daimi.aau.dk> eks@daimi.aau.dk (Eigil Krogh S|rensen) writes:
>If Bill Clinton has an e-mail address I'd like to hear about it.
>
>
>thank you
>
>
>  --- Eigil


Dear Eigil,
	Someone sent me this address as Bill Clinton's, I haven't
tried it so I don't know if its right. It is

           75300.3115@compuserv.com

If it works please let me know.

Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.society.civil-liberty