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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:08:51 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Nerve of steel
              21 Dec 1992 13:56:46 -0600 from <harwell@TENET.EDU>

If someone isn't connected to the Emergency Listserver, does that mean that
that person isn't a BWP?

Evelyn
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:57:20 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Alle ein glueckliches Neujahr!
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As the clock tolls midnight here in ESTland, I will borrow some verse
from Roger Angell:

    We come at last to our envoi,
    Which wishes you a year of joy,
    From painful change a brief surcease,
    And on this earth a lot more peace.
    May trees of lights and cheerful rooms
    Intrude upon our winter glooms,
    And festive thoughts, we pray, remind us,
    Spring one day will come and find us.

--brad
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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Subject: Online Shakespeare
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:34:46 GMT
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This is odd.  I can't find any mention of Shakespeare in the ftp holdings
at mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu.  I must be overlooking them somehow.  I ftp'ed
a bunch of Shakespeare's plays a while back, but I can't remember now where
I got them.

I used to have a much better sense of where to find things on the net than
I have now.  Why are the contents of my brain draining out so rapidly these
days??
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:18:54 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What's in a name?
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Posted on 22 Dec 1992 at 12:07:58 by Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik

>Honest-to-goodness real names and occupations:

>Mr. Thomas Crapper of Crapper, Ltd. Toilets
>(although I think this is a retroactive thing, crap being called that
>*after* Mr. Crapper's invention rather than before)

>The others come from _The Best Baby Name Book in the Whole Wide World_,
>and I tried to include just the ones that could be verified.

And if you believe that Thomas Crapper really invented the flush toilet
you'll also believe the other 'biography' by the same author of Otto Titzling,
the inventor of the brassiere.

Tony H.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:38:57 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Nerve of steel
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> miatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiata.....

mieve.  When we gonna get together?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:40:30 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Happy Holidays
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Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy New Year, Happy Solstice, Happy
whatever you celebrate. Today's the last day of work for the year. My
access will less reliable until mid-January. Hold it together, y'all!

Yours in bandwidth,
-abh
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:58:41 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Boyfriend from hell!
              23 Dec 1992 02:57:33 GMT from <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>

>(eg Misery: Fan From Hell; Babysitter From Hell; Murdering Bi Bitch from Hell
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>G

*Now* I know what to ask Santa for.

* Alt-Brad *
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:21:05 GMT

Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK> writes:

>On Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:28:05 LCL, "Anne Haycock" <haycock@MARLEY.THINK.COM>
> wrote:
>> I'm certainly not qualified to speak from a man's perspective, but I
>> wouldn't doubt it is somewhat similar.  Although, I would have to insist

>Neither is Aaron.

>G

I hardly think you're qualified to be making such accusations, Graham.

--Aaron

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From:         ll235nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: A Christmas memory....
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Posted on 23 Dec 1992 at 16:35:57 by ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
>wanted the money, or maybe I was trying extra-special-hard to flunk
>out of Hunter College.  I succeeded in both areas.  In any event, one

Yes! Ken, my soulmate!!!! :)

Karen
who worked in a department store after flunking out of college
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:04:28 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: More songs about buildings and food
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On Fri, 1 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> What do you know about the background of English peas, Graham?  Explain to
> him what they are, abh.  They don't strike me as Grahamesque food.  (I

How can I when I don't know what they are either?

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:24:57 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pizza Toppings
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I love feta cheese, Ruth, but have never tried it on pizza.  It is
delicious in/on salads.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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Date: 21 Dec 1992 22:15:31 GMT
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In a previous article, CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu () says:

>Greetings, Torkel,
>
>I usually see Ruth's messages only in quoted passages in other folks' posts.
>I prefer it that way.
>
So do I, Marty.  I can handle two cute-when-they're-rude guys at a time,
but three of you would be stretching even *me* a bit thin.[not tht I'd mind
the thin part....]  Better to keep those cute little insults elsewhere than
to tempt me past all control.
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: abh has perfect moment
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:30:19 GMT

In article <9301030523.AA08915@Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU> Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU> writes:

>Twelve days?  I thought you were going there next summer.  The Prado is at the
>top of my "Must-see-before-I-die" list.

	Nope those shoes I bought in a fit of panic yesterday are of
the comfy variety for roaming around the Spanish countryside gobbling
up paella and washing it down with sherry.




-- 
Rita Rouvalis                                Electronic Frontier Foundation
rita@eff.org                                                    eff@eff.org
CIS:70007,5621                                                (617)864-0665
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Pizza Toppings
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:31:02 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92122411490667@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:

>There is a restaurant in town called Gyro Wrap (pronounced Your-Oh).
>The best thing they serve is a falafel wrap with chunks of feta cheese.
>The "wrap" itself is pita bread.  Mmmmm.

	Sorry to be a nitpicker (not really), but "Gyro" is pronounced
more like "GYee-Ro".  It is hard to really explain the way the Greek
Gamma is pronounced without actually letting someone here it.  It is
somewhat guttural.  They "Y" is most definately NOT an "ou" sound.  It
is a long "e" -- like most Greek vowels.



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rita@eff.org                                                    eff@eff.org
CIS:70007,5621                                                (617)864-0665
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:14:18 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
              <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Hello
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        Extremely sorry, old egg, but I am back.

Got bored with alt.usage.english already, eh Mandar?

G
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Date: 27 Dec 1992 05:54:59 GMT
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In a previous article, MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery) says:

>> From: Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
>> Uh, where do I get a copy of this 'rotten Canadian Webster' ?
>>
Canada?:-)
>
>I'm not sure you'd want a copy of any Canadian dictionary.
>It's probably the American edition with a special appendix
>full of Newfie-ese.
>
Cheap shot, Peter; the Newfoundlanders have enough to put up with without
you jumping in.[I'd say that, just because they're Newfies, but they're
your minority, not mine]  Besides, it's probably printed in Japan!
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:02:32 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston Gathering
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> P.S.  Joan, the counterpart program to the Peace Corps that you were
>       thinking of is, I believe, VISTA (Volunteers In Service To America)

My mother was a VISTA volunteer in the 70s...my father, like Evelyn's, was
in the CCC in the 30s.
ndh
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:31:51 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: John's Geography Question
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>If correct you can move 3 spaces - choice of any of the remaining categories
>(anything except Science/Nature or Geography).
>
>Carolyn

The more astute of you will note that I didn't edit this part of the message.
It should have read:

If correct you can move 3 spaces - choice of Sport or Art/Literature.

Carolyn
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:07:03 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What A Quiet Bunch
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Natalie:
> The list seems strangely quiet this morning.  Is everybody hungover, or
> what?

I was just getting to bed when you wrote that, Natalie.  But, I spent all of
yesterday in airplanes and terminals, got in around 9pm local time, went out
to ring in the year and didn't get back until 5 am or so.  No hangover here,
though - I drink too little now for that to happen.

I'm not having any of the foods that are supposed to guarantee good fortune
during the year, hope the consequences aren't too bad.  No resolutions, either.

-rashmi
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:06:59 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Let the sniping begin!
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Posted on 21 Dec 1992 at 19:56:56 by Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)
>Too bad you have hope to give up ... he's from Hot Springs,
>remember?

What does *this* mean?  Anyway, I expect Hillary to keep him in line.:)

Karen
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:13:04 -0600
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (73)
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If this year is H.M. Elizabeth's 40th, then it would be 1952.  That would
make sense; I remember her silver jubilee in '77.


-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
-----amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu--------------The University of Texas @Austin---
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Date: 1 Jan 1993 04:42:21 GMT
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In a previous article, ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM () says:

>To my shock on New Year's Eve, AT&T has given me a present (besides
>letting me keep my job for another year):
>
Happy Chanukah a little late?

>version of IRC on the newsreaders, connecting automatically to
>fairhope.andrew.cmu.edu.  Which means if anyone plans to be over there
>to make a fool of him/her/itself, I can participate without going
>through telnet.
>
I have no idea where La Pig might be, but how does one get to fairhope,
and what is it?:-)

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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:32:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: cshow
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>         Please don't say something like "Run CSHOW"....  tell me *how*.
>
> Press the C key
> Press the S key
> Press the H key
> Press the O key
> Press the W key
> Press the big key at the right-hand-side called ENTER or RETURN.
> Press the appropriate cursor keys until the gif file you
> want is highlighted.
> Press a key to pick a suitable display and view the gif; say '/'.
>
> G

Very funny.  Very clever.  Doesn't work.  Please be kind to the
marginally disadvantaged.  Is this from a C-prompt or what?
What makes it run?
--ggs
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:30:31 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Football
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>   On the whole I'm inclined to suspect that American football is even more
> idiotic than other national sports found across the globe. Of course it's

I agree.  I was once called upon to justify American football to a group
of people in France who were from various parts of Europe, Asia, and Latin
America.  I told them they were asking the wrong person.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:16:40 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Michael Medved
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C-SPAN's Booknotes this week, is an involving interview with
Michael Medved on his latest book, _Hollywood_vs_America_.
Basic thesis is that Hollywook is distorting the US's self-
image into wrong headed negativity for the sake of the egoistical
desire of the Hollywookies' need to be seen as SERIOUS by each
other.

Is there merit in his argument? Is he well/poorly received as
a movie reviewer? &c? &c?

Pm
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 22:51:43 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Happy New Year
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          andy lester <alester@farpost.chi.il.us>,
          "Ms. Cinda The Architect" <lester912@snake.cs.uidaho.edu>,
          Liz Clayton <lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu>
              2 Jan 1993 10:14:16 CST from <u7941919@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW>

well, gail and dan in potatoland spent a pretty 'boring' newyears.  we stayed
at home, and actually went to sleep about 1030 pm.!!!  guess that PROVES
we're getting old.  I had taken my antibiotics for bronchitis and they
really knocked me out...and gail almost alwasy goes to sleep well before
midnight.  Anyhow, since I have to drink a lot with my bronchitis i woke up
to go to the bathroom....and that woke gail up....and she said 'me too'...
so as i was staggering towards the bathroom....i noticed the digital clock
said 1200.....and gail noticed it too....and we said happy new year to
each other.....and both staggered back to bed....and said happy new year
again....and went right back to sleep...

see what fun you kids can look forward to?        o-)

today we stayed inside all day (though gail did go outside to get
the paper, and to grill some salmon for supper on the gas grill, about three
feet outside the kitchen door)....it was very windy and cold....

we watched football and ate and watched football....and snoozed (at least
i did)......and gail did laundry....another exciting day....i haven't even
felt good enough to play with the HO trains....oh, well....

hugs all around

dan (and gail)
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nappy
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Posted on 25 Dec 1992 at 18:56:06 by torkel@SICS.SE

>  No, not that kind. What does "nappy" mean in the following description:

Hmmm... do most Americans know what 'that kind' of nappy is ?

Tony H.
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What's in a name?
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> Here's a nominee for the WORDS-L list of interesting names (is anybody
> actually keeping such a list?):
>
I imagine we could all contribute to such a list.  Here's my contribution:

Non Douglas

This was the name of my high school senior English teacher.  She was an
only child and her parents wanted a boy and were going to name him
Douglas. She was a girl and a Non Douglas.

I swear this is the absolute truth.  Her father was our family dentist for
many years and both she and he told the same story.

doris
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From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: inventing a label

>How is the respondent to know which intent the question had?

By using one's knowledge about the questioner gained through
acquaintance with the questioner. You can easily see that my
question really was `what is it that causes "e-addiction"?'
People have to use shorthand like I did in order to avoid
interminable cross-talk acts. If I ask what causes objects
more than 25 cms away from my eyes go blurry will you say
"myopia"?

Or more importantly, will you say "myopia" to everyone from a
three year old to a professor emeritus in opthalmology?


>Although I don't remember the details of that [native language] thread
>now, I believe that I was talking about what some people use the label
>"native language" for because you took issue with some people's use of
>that label.  What kinds of facts about language acquisition were you
>looking for?  I don't remember.

OK. Let me repeat what I said then. I was asking what a GOOD definition
of "native language" would be. You said that according to some people
it was the language spoken before the child was three years old. Dead
end. Or I have to spell out that I am asking for a good, useful definition
which is motivated by known facts about language acquisition, indirectly
asking for the facts themselves. So either I have to keep quiet or I have
to sound incredibly pompous explaining at length to YOU the accepted norms
of discourse. Either I don't get any answer or I sound insulting. And then
my major occupation becomes how to politely convey the fact that I don't
ask the naivest questions year after year. The topic at hand becomes
secondary.

This becomes wearying after a while.


>> if you stop assuming that the world is full of freshmen then a lot
>> of flip answers will stop too.
>
>Quite the contrary.  I give thorough answers to freshmen because their
>questions usually require and deserve thorough answers.  And their
>questions usually make sense.

I was talking about MY flip answers, like talking about Fords or
something instead of pursuing the topic further. When I mentioned
"freshmen" I wasn't talking about the depth of answers they demand.
This is just a question of assuming what the questioner intends. A
freshman might in fact ask about first principles - naiveness and
brightness are independent things. Now you are confusing lack of
knowledge with lack of intelligence, so what can I do?

tushar
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Hello
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> >The Listserver is back on and Giggles is back and Dan is posting again.
> >It will be a good last week of 1992.
> >
> >doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
>
> Extremely sorry, old egg, but I am back.
>
> tushar

Yeah, doris, sis, you just spoke too soon.
--ggs
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In a previous article, MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery) says:


>> [bounced = rubber checks  - insufficient funds in the back account to cover
>> the draft...]  This could be the same idea for an ATM, aka debit, card.
>
>Might we be talking here about what is some times called a line of
>credit, whereby a person can overdraw their account up to a preset
>amount, without recrimmination, and only a small interest charge?
>
It sure sounds like it.  I'm not a banker though, and don't have a tame
one on tap to ask.  Does anyone else have any clue?

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