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From: Kevin.Dodsworth@f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Dodsworth)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: atacc.geography
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 15:51:08 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

Dear Don
    I logged onto the envoy system today and saw your message that I had logged on successfully but today I had nothing but trouble on that system.  The cursor kept moving by itself and leaving these brackets {{{ all over the place yet it is working quite well here on the K-12 network. Does Envoy 100 have some quirks I should know about.  I also went to check the bulletin board and the system told me that it wasn't available. I was glad to hear that everything was going well except for your message about t

he clue tomorrow.  We are starting next week aren't we, I hope so because my clue is not quite ready yet!  I hope this message gets through to you all right and that you can reply before too long.
Thanks from Kevin(Fort McMurray)


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From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Anyone teaching structure/physics/architecture?
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 21:07:42 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi Steve.....

25 Sep 92, Steve Druker writes to All:


 SD> I am interested in communicating with anyone who is teaching
 SD> a unit on structures, physical science, and/or
 SD> architecture at K-6 grade level.

 SD> Such a unit might include building with various
 SD> materials to explore concepts such as forces, tension, compression,
 SD> loads, function and design, strength of various shapes, etc.

 SD> If anyone out there knows of teachers or schools that
 SD> employ such a unit I'd love to talk.

 SD> Steve Druker                    druker@edstar.gse.ucsb.edu
 SD> Graduate School of Education
 SD> University of California
 SD> Santa Barbara, CA 93103

 SD> (805) 893-7144

        All Alberta, Canada Grade 7 Science Teachers have this unit as part of the mandatory science curriculum.  I don't currently teach it, but this may give you a target audience.  There are two excellent resources from Alberta Ed. available.  One is called Directions in Science 7 (by Addison Wesley or Ginn Publishing, I'm not sure which).

        Hope this helps.

Chow for now ....

James.....


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From: Joel.Helton@p1.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Helton)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: NEWBIE!
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 15:24:33 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.1 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

In a message dated 9/28/92, Jay Gaines wrote to All about NEWBIE! . . . 

  JG> BBS America/3 R's BBS, in Dallas, is now carrying this echo.
  JG> 
  JG> We are very happy to now be a part of this network. BBS America is a
  JG> 6-line TBBS operation in Richardson (suburb of Dallas)operated by Jay
  JG> Gaines and Ron Ellis.  We have 9 BBS'es operating on our system and
  JG> the most exciting one is our newest:  The 3 R's BBS with over 600
  JG> educational files online for D/L, 50+ educational echoes from Fido and
  JG> now K-12, And a ton of local message areas.  We also provide online
  JG> chat for students, parents, teachers, and tutors.
  JG> 
  JG> Our users are eagerly awaiting participation in K12.
  JG> 
  JG> Our thanks to Edward Dunagin for his assistance in getting us online
  JG> with K12net.
  JG> 
  JG> Let the messages begin!
  JG> 
  JG> -  Jay Gaines / Ron Ellis -


Ok, 

Here is a message to take up your disk space.  Welcome aboard!

Joel Helton from Nashville, TN




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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Help For First Timers
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 12:14:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

From: warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Kennedy)

JK>-->  Teachers (and sysops) should discourage the use of "handles" or
JK>-->  pseudonames for individuals when there is no legitimate reason for
JK>-->  doing so. ...

JK>  Do I even WANT to know what my email address/from line looks
like over JK>there? JK>(:  "Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org
(Jack Crawford)" is what your JK>address looks like over here, mine
should show as "warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu JK>(John Kennedy)".  UNIX

The key word here is "legitimate reason".... What we want to avoid is
creating a situation where kids will think that it's ok to hide
behind a "cutesy" pseudonym such as "the Shadow" or "NetRunner"
which becomes an invitation for abuse. Obviously, we run into some
technical problems is this respect with UNIX machines, etc.

All I can ask is for you to use your best judgement on this.....
Thanks.

=jack=


 * SLMR 2.1a * 

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From: Sue.Woodruff@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Sue Woodruff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Apple Problems
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 21:08:34 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

Help!!!  I get so frustrated when I try to hook up an Apple IIc to a modem.  I've had better luck with IIgs's, but today I couldn't even get that one to work.  I had several problems - if anyone has any suggestions on what I may have overlooked, please let me know!

1st - The Apple IIe had a Super Serial Card placed in it.  It had suggested switch settings in the Booklet that came with it.  The software I was using (TIC - Talk Is Cheap) suggested different settings.  We tried both.....neither worked.

2nd - A few times the "TR" light on the modem would flicker, but it wouldn't ever stay on.  

3rd - I was able to change settings in the software, but not manually enter any commands to the modem.  When I typed in "ATDT", nothing would appear on the screen.  The modem never initialized as far as I could tell.  This was the same on both the GS and IIe.

I'd appreciate any and all suggestions.  Thanks.

Sue Woodruff


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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: HELLO
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 21:28:59 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Carol,
 
> I dearly love working with my students one on one and seeing
them make improvements.

It must be nice to work one-on-one!  I feel like I am going in a million
directions when my students are around!  

Are your students pretty motivated?

I teach in an alternative high school where we are supposed to give
individualized instruction but we are funded on the same student-teacher ratio 
as the regular school program, so we usually have 20-25 students assigned per
class.  

Welcome aboard to K12Net!  I enjoy reading messages from people in other parts 
of the country.

By the way, did you know that a recent news magazine listed the two best
liberal arts colleges in the WEST as being located in Texas and Oklahoma? 
Since I consider where I live to be in the west, I was rather intrigued by
their classification.

Texas is a huge state, and the western border is quite a ways over.  What
geographical category do you consider Texas?  South? West?  Southwest? West?

I'd love to know!
Julie Rosenoff in Spokane, WA


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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Telecommunication in Seco
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 12:52:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Excuse me for interrupting Donna, I couldn't help thinking that the
change in mangement at *THAT* bank is certainly not for the better!
                         vv

DR> We are currently partners with a bank. We're seeking another
DR> partner, however, since the bank support is dropping due to change
DR> in management.

Peace.....Ed

 * SLMR 2.1a #1852 * A diamond is a chunk of coal made good under pressure.



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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Ozone Hole
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 15:09:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

Robin-

I've heard that the ozone depletion arount Tasmania is so bad that
kids are required to wear hats as part of their school uniform.

I was just wondering if you had a similar situation there in New
Zealand.....

Thanks

=jack=

 * SLMR 2.1a * 

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From: Gary.Smith@f5.n394.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Smith)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: sysop application
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 11:58:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:394/5 - Ch A D D/K12net BBS, Hammond LA

     Dear Mr. Crawford:

     I read recently of your search for interested moderators on K-12.  If 
you are still looking, perhaps you will consider notifying me.

     I got access to K-12 about a year ago through one of the students here 
at Hammond High.  Since then, I have tried to gain more familiarity and 
authority via our local sysop.  Mr. Ken Blystone directed me to correspond 
with you on this echo or via Netmail.

     Despite an elementary knowledge of computerese, I do have a desire to 
spread K-12 access to interested and responsible students, here or in other 
areas of the world.  I was instrumental in inputing my Spanish I class last 
year and encouraging them to expand their language use by writing to pen 
pals in this country.

     Please let me know what qualities and abilities you are looking for in 
a moderator.  I can assemble a resume' perhaps, if that is a requisite.

     Thank you for your consideration.

            Gary Smith 
 

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From: Carol.Hooper@f90.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: 2nd  class
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 07:43:24 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/90 - Stallion K12 Net BB, El Paso TX

I have found my Resource students more able....not sure I know why, 
but the reduced pressure from answering #1-15, page 200 (the typical 
assignment) must be reflected in just worrying about one problem.  My 
Resource kids seem to really "glow" when solving these problems.  Good 
luck!


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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Montana news
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:04:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

Hi Jeff, Saw your note inquiring about Montana BBSs.  In case you haven't
seen it, Here's the excerpt from the latest K12net global members list:
         *Montana
Silver Bow BBS             Butte                406-723-5870    1:3400/4
Tiny Sky BBS               Dillon               406-683-7696    1:3400/3
The Russell Country BBS    Hobson               406-423-5433    1:3400/7
Pioneer Telegraph          Miles City           406-232-4602    1:3400/14

  Hope you find a contact you can use.  By the way, the numbers following
the modem phone numbers are Fido addresses.
  I'm trying to get someone in Japan hooked into K12net.  If your wife
could look into that at CA, it would be fantastic!  I'll write ASIJ too,
but if she sees anyone from ASIJ at the conference, maybe she could put in
a plug.  Now, how about Hong Kong?  Know anyone there?  A good friend just
moved to an international school there, so I'll write him and see what I
can find out.  As for messages for CA, I don't think I know anyone there
any more.  A good friend and classmate, Mr. Komei Go, still lives in Kobe.
He's of Formosan descent, and is taking a sabbatical (from his job as head
of the Eng. Dept at Kyoto Seika) to do some studies in Taiwan this year.
He may be interested in either telecomm or other education-oriented
discussions.  Ciao for now.  ...Tom



 * Freddie 1.2 * So why CAN'T we have the best education system in the world?



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From: Rosemary.Gillespie@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Rosemary Gillespie)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Primary Teaching
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:33:54 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155.3 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Dear Jim,
       Thank-you for your reply.  Yes my students and I would be interested in communicating with your students.  We are visiting Healesville Sanctuary on the 5th of November with other grades from our school.  Healesville especially features Australian animals, so we will be doing work relating to this.  It would be interesting to compare and contrast animals from both countries.
       I have a small Grade 1 class of 14 students.  I teach at

               Glendal Primary School
               Medina Road
               Glen Waverley 3150
               Victoria  Australia

       I look forward to hearing from you again,
                               Rosemary Gillespie


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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Primary Penpals - Australia
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 18:04:53 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of < 3 Oct 92 10:01:02 >, Phil Spooner (1:105/23) writes:

 PS>Hello!  In reference to your question, that is the Fido address for the 
 PS>BBS I access.  I suppose If you put my name on it, it will reach me.  
 PS>I'd really like to hear from you.
 PS> 
This is the Teacher Chat conference in K12net.   Any message addressed to you  
in this area will reach you, if you access this area, or if the system you  
call has a do you want to check for mail option.

You can also receive direct private mail in the netmail area of the BBS you  
call.  At least that is possible if you have access to the netmail area.  Not  
all users of all bbs have such access.

 



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From: James.Bannan@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (James Bannan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Calling England/Europe
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 21:10:16 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

Hello,  is anyone in England or Europe picking up this message.  If you are it would be nice you receive an acknowledging message/note that it does reach into the Continent.  Is anyone their interested in joining in an informal Global Environmental Watch.  All you do is add your "diary" of whats outside in your backyard, street, park.  I am trying to link up interested teachers and/or students around the world in a little enviro watch for the only reason of looking at nature under our feet and in our immed






iate little worlds.  It would be great to compare things that are similar and other things that are different.  If you like to join in please. please just drop me a line.   Cheers Jimbo down under.  Melbourne Australia.


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Boat race stopped by rain
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 19:12:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

Some little while ago, one of the boards I was reading mentioned the
Henley-on-Todd boat races in Alice Springs, central Australia.  For the
benefit of overseas readers, may I record that this year's event was
almost cancelled the other day, when rain fell, causing the dry river
bed to be damp?

Tradition requires that all "boats" be carried, although surfboards are
fitted with wheels, and the slippery moist conditions almost caused the
cancellation of the event.  It was, I think the first year in which
there was more water than beer (and no snide and nasty comments about
Kiwi beer either!).

When Sydney gets the Olympics, we are going to make sure that the
boating events are held in Alice, so that we can be assured of a wide
range of gold -- a friendly tip to our North American colleagues who are
paddle-persons: set up your training camp in Nevada!

 # SLMR 2.1 # It's hard to play a straight bat when you're a bentwing.



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From: Brian.Bridal@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Bridal)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Teacher's day
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 17:09:16 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

hello Jeff,
 We have a couple of students from taiwan in our school. I will have to ask them more about Sept. 28 (if they show up for school that day
:-}  )
 
brian


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From: Holly.Wolf@f615.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Holly Wolf)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Company
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 07:36:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/615 - Scolasticom, Palmyra NY

Thank you!  That is just what I wanted to hear about.  I'll ask for the
 library echo and hope they have room.  The question was really just a
 door-opener, though I am sold on the ideal that as a group we have a lot to
 offer each other. 

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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: K12 Net Library
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 19:56:50 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

  ZG> Do you have anything available that I could use on my Apple IIGS at
  ZG> school to let the kids read & reply to messages on one machine &
  ZG> upload at a latter time on another machine actually hooked up to a
  ZG> modem? 

  Hi Zelma,

     What you need is an  off line reader and to the best of my knowledge, there
is none for the IIgs UNFORTUNATELY!!  If you can get your hands on a MAC (any
Mac) then all you'll need is MacWoof and you'll be all set.  Let me know if
you need additional info.

Regards,


Joel Orleck

  

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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: K12 Net Library
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 21:09:31 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

  TW> ^AEID:8E98 84510001
  JO> 
  JO> What you need is an  off line reader and to the best of my knowledge,
  JO> there is none for the IIgs UNFORTUNATELY!!  If you can get your hands
  JO> on a MAC (any Mac) then all you'll need is MacWoof and you'll be all
  JO> set.
  TW> Joel, Can MacWoof be used by several users (using different names)?  I
  TW> assumed it was an individual thing. (I've ordered a copy but haven't
  TW> gotten it yet)  What Zelma is asking for is just what would fit the
  TW> bill for classrooms everywhere.  Kind of a mini-BBS, in effect. 
 

  Tom, the answer to your question is YES!  However, I'd prefer to discuss this
topic voice.  Either send me your work/home phone number or give me a holler
at (615) 885-2007 between 6-8:00 PM CST.  

    Regards,

    Joel Orleck



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From: warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Kennedy)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Help For First Timers...
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:07:11 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: amber.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <3718.2AC6BCDD@puddle.fidonet.org> Jack Crawford writes:

-->  Teachers (and sysops) should discourage the use of "handles" or
-->  pseudonames for individuals when there is no legitimate reason for
-->  doing so. ...

  Do I even WANT to know what my email address/from line looks like over there?
(:  "Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)" is what your
address looks like over here, mine should show as "warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu
(John Kennedy)".  UNIX sites, at least, are going to have a limitation of eight
characters on the name part (in my case, "warlock") while some of the other
mailers we have on the net here (Microsoft mail for one, I believe) will happily
take address like "Jack.Crawford" or "Jack_Crawford".  Setting up reply-to
fields would probably be a pain and I have no idea how your gateway would deal
with them (IE, accept them over the "from" address or ignore them).

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From: Janis.Bruwelheide@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Janis Bruwelheide)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Montana news
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:45:02 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT


 > Scanning this conference, I just happened to see your message
 > concerning CNN Newsroom.  It sounds interesting but living
 > here in Taiwan I don't think we can participate. (If you have
 > any information concerning its use overseas I'd appreciate
 > it.)

 > However, the words Bozeman, MT caught my attention.  My wife
 > grew up in Missoula (I'm a transplant from WI) and we return
 > to Montana every summer.  I have been hoping to find someone
 > who might be able to provide me with any information
 > concerning BBSes around MT in hopes of establishing some
 > contacts.  Any information you can provide would be
 > appreciated.

 > Living here in the crowded surroundings of Taipei, we
 > certainly miss the "Big Sky" views.


 > --- TosScan 1.00
 >  * Origin: World Data Exchange * Educational Exchange *
 > Taipei, R.O.C. (6:720/921)
Hi! Nice to hear from you.  CNN Newsroom has gone international but I am unsure about the coverage.  The base is London.  It's sent over the CNN new network by satellite so you might check around if you receive the station.  Here the program is broadcast at 1:45 AM Montana time (4:45 AM Georgia time) over the cnn news channel.  a teachers'' guide is also available but I doubt its availability overseas at this time.  I'll inquire for you if you want to check back with me later.  I'm on their advisory panel 




so getting the info should be easy--I'll try!  Montanaa has another bbs of interest to you and it's available internationally.  It's based in Dillon at WMC and called big sky telegraph.  Neat source.  It's a unix system. Try  the inet address bigsky!franko@csn.org.  Frank O'Dasz is the director.  His us address is:Big Sky Telegraph, Western Montana College, Dillon, MT  59725.  Modem # is 406-683-7680.  He has great files.  What do you teach in Taipai?  I teach instructional technology courses and school me




dia courses at MSU.  Keep in touch! Janis Bruwelheide  (don't forget to contact me again about CNN Newsroom)  I'll mail info if you want to send an address.  Dept. of Education, 213 Reid Hall, MSU, Bozeman, MT  59717  Bye!

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