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Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:37:44 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard molests small children! SLAYER RULZ!
 <1992Apr12.223722.26714@seas.gwu.edu> <1992Apr13.214108.27406@nevada.edu>


In article <1992Apr13.214108.27406@nevada.edu>, jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
>>: group alt.Sauron.loser.wack.off.faggot.virgin.POSER

>The only rock n cock you know anything about is Sauron's that goes up your
>ass every night! You and Sauron can stay here, but take the metal someplace
>else.
>
>                                        so there!
>                                        James B

A wee bit homophobic, are we James?

"so there!" ???

Wotta power flame!
No wonder I haven't seen Suaron post in awhile, he's been scared off!

I guess no one has ever heard of an opinion, right?
Mine is that Def Leppard went downhill after Pyromania.  You'd think they
could make a good album after 8 years of waiting, or however long it was...

 Sime

 "If there's a new way,
  I'll be the first in line"        "Now there is a school that
                                     self-destructed not because
 "A couple grains of powder,         society didn't care, but
  A couple grams of lead,            because the school _was_
  A touch against the trigger,       society.  Pretty deep, huh?"
  A touch inside your head"                   -J.D.
         -Megadeth                             in "Heathers"
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: Def Leppard molests small children! SLAYER RULZ!
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:10:14 GMT



>Yeah! Phil Collen is just the greatest guitarist ever...NOT!  You
>can't even compare him to somebody with Kerry King's skill!  Look
>at Pour Some Sugar on Me 

	Look at Stagefright, look at Women, look at Rock of Ages, look at
Foolin, look at Animal...(I could go on)  There is more to being a good
guitar palyer that knocking off 100 notes a second. 

>Jimi Hendrix...Not!  Hell Phil is such a sad guitar player he couldn't
>even come up with some new riffs for Adrenalize.

	That's your sorry opinion. What do you know anyway. You wouldn't
know a tasty, fresh guitar riff if it came up and stuck it's dick up your ass!

>
>So all you Def Leppard fucks quit Making Love to a Man and baptize
>yourself in the Raining Blood.  Not only do slayer kick Leppards
>ass in guitar playing but also in drum playing, vocals, and lyrics.
>Every other Def Leppard song contains the word 'rock.'  Plus
>def leppard have such sad lines like 'I just had to be a man and
>you just had to be a woman,' really kick out on that intellectual
>level.

	Again, what do you know about being an intellectual? It's real 
intelectuall to spout satanic, anti-social dribble........NOT!


>
>Dave Lombardo could play drums without using any arms and even


	What does he do, smash his face into the drums? It's the right 
palace for it, that or a toilet I mean.


		Go back to alt.r-n-r.metal, and your other noise (err..news)
group alt.Sauron.loser.wack.off.faggot.virgin.POSER

					you disgust me,
					James B.
From: stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (needs changing)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Firehouse fan also
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:34:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45656
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr13.192243.27740@acsu.buffalo.edu> v071qhek@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MR. RIGHT) writes:
>
>Oh also released info. I believe, is that Slaughter is also releasing their
>second next month as well.

	April 21 is the date.

>Can someone tell me- Where's WINGER?

	Well, knowing I'll be accused of poser-lover and such, I'm
still going to reply.   I am a huge Winger fan, not cause they're 
hairspray guys, but cause they're awesome musicians.  Reb is a kick-ass
guitarist (whether or not he plays Top 40) and Rod is one hell
of a drummer (one of the best in mainstream rock).  Kip is okay
when he isn't dancing around.
	Anyway, Paul left to pursue songwriting.  So, most of the
next albumn is written, but they aren't really recording yet.
Reb had a cut on 'Guitars that Rule the World.'
	Say what you want, but the fuckers CAN PLAY.

Alex Stevens
stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: kjmcrae@trillium.waterloo.edu (Who wants to know?!?)
Subject: Sort of a 'Mainstream' version of Lollapolooza ???
Keywords: this summer
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:10:57 GMT

Recently I read (& heard on the radio) that this concert tour would include:

	Bryan Adams
	Extreme
	Steve Miller Band
	(+ more bands to be announced)

	[...I know, it's kind of an odd combination, but it's true]

Has anyone else heard about this?  Can anyone provide more info??      

thanx
km
From: v119r7hr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sir)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: top 100
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:06:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

can anybody tell me where i can get a recent top 100 rock songs list??  There
was one on here but i want one from this counrty!!  Either post it or tell me
where i can get it. thanx
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: ian christian rogers <irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: David Bowie and Bowie/Stevie Ray Vaughan bootleg track listings
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:25:10 -0500



	This is a track listing for a couple of David Bowie bootlegs
that I have.  Someone asked for them a while back and I have neglected
to get them on here until now.  My apologies.

	NOTE:  This _informative_ type of posting is the kind I wish we
could see more of here on the rock-n-roll newsgroup.  What a waste of
bandwidth all the "Def Lepard is better than SLAYER" shit is.          

---------------------------------------------------------------
_Moonage Daydream_
David Bowie

 Recorded live at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium
	October 20, 1972

Track Listing:
	Hang On To Yourself
	Ziggy Stardust
	Changes
	Supermen
	Is There Life On Mars?
	Five Years
	Space Oddity
	Andy Warhol
	My Death Waits There
	Width Of A Circle
	Queen Bitch
	Moonage Daydream
	John, I'm Only Dancing
	Waiting For The Man
	Jean Genie
	Suffragette City

The address listed on the back is:
	Musique Sabot
	299 King Street
	Toronto, Ontario
	Canado 2m5 5z2


----------------------------------------------------------------------

_The Duke and the Hawk_
David Bowie/Stevie Ray Vaughan

 Recorded live at "Las Calinas" April 27, 1983 Dallas Texas

Note:  Some of the songs listed are incorrectly named (ie"Stay" is
called "I really meant to say").  I will write what is listed on the
disc and next to it, in parenthesis, I will include the correct title.

CD 1
	TVC 15
	I Really Meant to Say (Stay)
	Jean Genie
	Modern Love
	Rock'n'Roll Star (Star)
	Heroes
	Wait Until the Crowd Goes (What in the World)
	Look Back in Anger
	Liar (Joe the Lion)
	Wild is the Wind
	Golden Years
	Fashion
	Let's Dance
	Hinterland (Red Sails)
CD 2
	Breaking Glass
	Life on Mars
	Sorrow
	Putting out Fire
	China Girl
	Scary Monsters
	Rebel Rebel
	I Can't Explain
	White Light/White Heat
	Station to Station
	Back Baby Back
	Ashes to Ashes
	Space Oddity
	Young Americans


--------------------------------------------

Hope this is helpful or interesting or whatever.

Those interesting in trading bootlegs or anything my E-mail at:
irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

ian
	



-- 

Ian Rogers
irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: For all you Sinead fans
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:00:01 GMT
	<RJC.92Apr13183840@brodie.cstr.ed.ac.uk> <45373@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research

In article <45373@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, needs changing (nc) writes:

rjc> Perhaps the greatest proof that S O C is saying something worthwhile
rjc> is that she manages to so piss off so many worthless cretins such as,
rjc> for instance, the sad cases on the above thread. 

nc> That also says that Maple and Suaron are something worthwhile
nc> too!

Have they ever actually _said_ anything? Just making noises doesn't
count, you can piss people off by farting in a public place and that's
what I thought they were doing.

Additionally, the rule runs the other way too, SoC irritates _only_
the airheads.

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk		Hey farmer! you don't know much do ya!
				Nope, but I ain't lost....
					Old Joke, used by Michelle Shocked.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Re: RUSH and RAP
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  8 Apr 92 14:29:16 GMT

In <92099.014857BMK112@psuvm.psu.edu> <BMK112@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.050550.7715@cs.rose-hulman.edu>,
>patterjd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeffrey D Patterson) says:

>>Some asked who did the rap on RTB.  Believe it or not, it was
>>                GEDDY LEE!!!!

>Are you sure it was Geddy who did the rap? I thought Alex usually did that kind
>of stuff. Besides, I really don't think it sounds like Geddy at all, but I
>could be mistaken, and please don't flame me if I'm wrong.

According to Neil Peart on his Rockline interview of 12-2-91, it was
indeed Geddy. They used some electronic gizmo to change the pitchof his
voice.
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll:10142 alt.rock-n-roll.metal:6742
From: sh_strawn@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: ATTENTION IRONMAIDEN FANS (Janick Gers)
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:11:06 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Apr16.063754.13999@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
> In article <1992Apr15.231032.11005@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
> ggregori@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (Greg "Killing Fingers" Gregoriou)
> writes:
> 
>>  In my belief, Adrian's playing is great, and he wrote some great material.
>>   Otherwise he wouldn't be in Maiden for so many years (I think he joined the
>>   same time Dave did, in fact I think Dave introdused him.) Janick is as good,
>>   if it makes you feel better...
> 
> actually, dave has been with the band from their veritable start (and
> on all of their company released recordings) adrian joined in 1980
> following dennis stratton's departure from the band. dave and adrian
> were childhood friends in london's east end. dave sold his very first
> guitar to adrian (which was then adrian's first guitar) after a fight
> with den wilcock (and older maiden guitarist) murray briefly quit the
> band and joined another called urchin, starring, you guessed it, adrian
> smith. btw several members of urchin played in adrian's solo project,
> a.s.a.p. he evern released two singles (which flopped) with urchin, and
> then played a gig or two with a band called secret before returning to
> maiden. after stratton left, murray and harris finally persuaded smith
> to leave urchin and join maiden...until the summer of 1990, all was go.
> then adrian decided not to return because of a different musical
> direction.
> 
> -kev.

Thank you Kev for a helpful history of maiden's guitar situation.  

i agree that the loss of adrian was a big blow to maiden, not to take anything
away from janick.  his decision to go 'pop' was unfortunate.  so what is
a.s.a.p.?  i never knew he actually had come out with something.  from the talk
of it, it sounds like it may be unsuitable for discussion on the .metal board,
but i would appreciate a little info.

i believe dave murray wrote 22 acacia avenue, not adrian.  but the point about
smith's songwriting is well taken.  without him, it's almost to the point where
if it's not from steve harris, it's not maiden on the new album (although in
the past dave murray and bruce dickinson have done some fine maiden
collaborations).  i would imagine that we will see some janick gers offerings
on the new release, unless he just cannot write.  most musicians can adapt
their songwriting styles to go along with the style of a longstanding
successful band like maiden from listening to their music and how it has
progressed, and iron maiden is the type of band that would encourage janick to
contribute.  so the jury is still out until may 12 on the real janick gers.

back in the village is my favorite adrian smith riff.  that's on powerslave.

peace, -shane s.-
 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: dana@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Carl Erickson)
Subject: Re: BEST LIVE ALBUMS
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:42:34 GMT


In article <pdlemass.703416011@unix2.tcd.ie> pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie  
(Something original) writes:
> my favourite live album is "Weld" by Neil Young and Crazy Horse .
> Any opinions?
> Peter


Being a guitar player and a RUSH idolizer, I would have to include both
 All The Worlds A Stage
 Exit Stage Left
 A Show of Hands

Carl

dana@wam.umd.edu
From: lindaman4833@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.music.rush
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:55:10 -0500
Summary: Rush newsnet idea ROCKS!!!
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I may only be a recently converted Rush fan, but the idea of a Rush newsnet is
awesome.  It would be a great idea to get in contact with Rush fans of all ages
and places so that new fans like me can learn from those who have felt the true
musical genius of Neil (god), Alex (god), and Geddy (god).

RUSH RULES!!!!

The man who has adopted "Presto" as his theme song,

Tom Lindaman

"I'm not one to believe in magic,
        But I sometimes have a second sight."
                        ---from "Presto" by Rush
From: v063nrxx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael J Wohlgemuth)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Three Greatest Consecutive Albums
Summary: VH
Keywords: VH
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <kukqedINN5lc@chort.usc.edu>, rone@chort.usc.edu (Ron A. Echeverri) writes...
>In article <24114@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU> sminsk@.stern.nyu.edu (Seth Minsk) writes:
> 
>	Van Halen: 1984, 5150, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
>		(Yes, i am blatantly ignoring OU812 since it wasn't up
>			to par... sigh. Ok)
> 
>	Scratch it - use either 1984 ~ OU812 or 5150 ~ F.U.C.K. 
>		(what can i say, i'm a VH "fanatic")
> 
	My nomination is for Diver Down, 1984, and 5150.
	Maybe VH (the first album) is better than D.D., but since we've
	got to play by the rules...
	You're right, though, OU812 just isn't up to par.
>-- 
>..signature: defunct due to sig virus
>Reconstruction in process

-Woogmeister (v063nrxx@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu)
"Jugglers throw up with style."
From: mzickar@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Mike Zickar)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Best live albums (was Re: Monsters of Rock 1992)
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:54:35 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology



Speaking of live albums, I just bought Al Green's "Tokyo Live" on CD yesterday.
For all who don't know Al's stuff (and I suspect there are quite a few out
there since this group tends to focus Metal), he's a Mowtown stalwart execpt
not in the original Detroit sound, ala Smokey and Four Tops.  He's from
Memphis, real smooooottttthhhh.  Anyway this album was recorded in 1978
and includes great versions of "Tired of Being Alone," "Belle," and yes,
a great cover of the Gibb's "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart."  It's
hard to imagine any version of a Gibb's song sounding good but hey it works.

Anyway, this album catches Al Green at his best which is pretty damn good.
There is great interplay with the audience but not pandering and definately`
not interfering with the music and overall listening pleasure.

If you have any fascination with soul music, get this disc.

Respectively,
Mike


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From: TZELGOV@vm.bgu.ac.il
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Gentle Giant - where are they now?
Date: 5 Apr 92 23:35:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: vm.167C11677.TZELGOV
Organization: Bgu University

>2)  Are there more albums abailable on CD other than
>    a) Gentle Giant
>    b) Acquiring the Taste
>    c) Three Friends
>    d) Octopus
>    e) Gentle Giant "the official" Live?
>    available?

    Well, I have "Power and the Glory" on CD (or, rather, a recording from a
CD). Kind of similar to Octopus, I think...
    As to their breaking up, I have absolutely no idea. When did this happen?
I don't s'ppose you could give any info as to how, why, etc...
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll:9731 rec.music.misc:14198
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: YESYEARS Question
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:48:35 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Apr13.173748.23702@acsu.buffalo.edu> v056rcrx@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Chuck, the Fencing God) writes:
>> 
>>I seem to recall an interview with Rick Wakeman (was it _Rolling_Stone?)
>>in which he complained about how the album was overproduced.  Who is this
>>Jon Elias person anyway and how much damage did he do?  I thought ABWH was
>>supposed to be a four-sided band with no dominant frontman.  Did Anderson
>>sieze control?  If it's all politics I might lose respect for the little guy.

Jon Elias did not produce the ABWH album.  He DID work with Anderson
in some solo-career work, and moved in to ABWH in time for Union.  I
don't know what to think of him.  I heard Elias' solo album
(collection?) "Requiem For The Americas" and wasn't impressed, aside
from Anderson's track "Far Far Cry", which I bought the single of.

>All i know is that Wakeman complained that the new Yes (Rabin-era) producers
>not only OVERPRODUCED, but went as far as to digitally change the actual 
>notes and instruments that Wakeman had already recorded!!!!

If that's true, I'd be outraged.  I'm amazed Wakeman is willing to
perform with those producers/managers/whatever.  If anything would be
a catalyst to change labels, lawyers, producers, etc., this would be
it.  And I wouldn't wait.

Let's see...  What do you think about Yes moving to Rhino Records? :-)

>P.S.- Check out DISCIPLINE by KING CRIMSON (Bruford on drums, Levin on Stick)

PPS: Check out some of Peter Gabriel's works (like Security) where
     Levin plays stick and bass.


-- 
David Charlap                   Q:"Where do these stairs go?"
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu          A:"They go up"
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Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:48:53 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: No Taste... (was Re: Def Leppard)
 <u8V3iB2w164w@bluemoon.rn.com>

In article <u8V3iB2w164w@bluemoon.rn.com>, thane@bluemoon.rn.com (Aron Gamman)
says:
>
>sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka) writes:
>
>>
>> _Hysteria_ killed DL?  Please.
>>
>>       1)      It was in the top 5 best selling hard rock albums of
>>               the decade.
>>               (heard from "Top 100 of 1980-1990", WZOU, Boston MA
>>       2)      There were SEVEN separate single releases from _Hysteria_
>>               (the whole first side, and "Hysteria" from the 2nd)
>>       3)      There could have been 3 or 4 more cuts released as singles
>>               that would have done as well as the existing 7 singles.
>>       4)      "Pour Some Sugar On Me" was the NUMBER ONE song of the
>>               decade 1980-1990 (according to the forementioned top 100 list)
>
>
>He expresses his personal tastes and you quote back to him statistics. WHO
>CARES!
>
>I personally think Def Leppard lost it with _Hysteria_. _Pyromania_ was an
>enjoyable enough album, but once I heard _Hysteria_ I could no longer
>listen to it.
>
>I admit that when I first heard, "Pour Some Sugar On Me", I really thuoght
>it was a good tune. But after I had become sick of it, (way before it
>become the huge single) I then started hearing it on the radio and on MTV
>every half an hour. Grew to hate the song...
>
>Sorry, sir, but if a twice as many copies of _Adrenilize_ are sold as
>_Hysteria_, it still won't make me like the band. Popularity does not mean
>quality to me.

Amen!  It's all opinions, and I agree that Def Leppard went way downhill after
Pyromania.  Hysteria was mega-overplayed, and really wasn't very good when
compared to High n Dry or Pyromania. (Of course, this is just my opinion.)
Also my opinion is that from what I've heard of the new album it really sucks.
I don't care if it sells 100 billion copies in 3 minutes.

It doesn't matter how many copies of an album a band sells, it's whether or not
you like them.  I don't like Michael Jackson and he's one of the richest people
on the face of the planet thanx to his music.

The new album is darn catchy, however. But to me this is just annoying.
(I hate to admit it now, but I loved Hysteria when it first came out. Ick.)

 Sime

 "If there's a new way,
  I'll be the first in line"        "Now there is a school that
                                     self-destructed not because
 "A couple grains of powder,         society didn't care, but
  A couple grams of lead,            because the school _was_
  A touch against the trigger,       society.  Pretty deep, huh?"
  A touch inside your head"                   -J.D.
         -Megadeth                             in "Heathers"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
From: aschi@silver.lcs.mit.edu (aschi)
Subject: Re: Lush concert dates??
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 10:45:08 GMT

I saw Lush about 2 weeks ago in Boston... They were great although the set
was extremely short, possibly ending due to technical difficulties. It would
have been nice if the opening band was the Flaming Lips, but here Babes In
Toyland opened-- what a mismatch!! Originally Poster Children were supposed
to open, but for some reason it was changed... I think BIT was chosen because
they're a "girl group" and whoever was picking the bands was not paying
attention to the sound, but just the fact that there was at least one woman
in them... But as i mentioned, it was just too short.

--aschi
From: les@brahms.udel.edu (Matthew Re Templeton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: sort of Rush lyrics
Keywords: rush mobile homes giants in the earth etc etc etc
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:53:06 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware


Howdy folks!  I guy who lives in my dorm said he found (was mailed/wrote???)
alternate, humorous lyrics to some Rush songs.  One he mentioned was a take off
(pun intended ;-) on "Roll the Bones" entitled "Mobile Homes."  Has anybody
heard of them/seen them/have them?  If they've already been posted could some-
one repost?  Thanks.

-Matt


-- 
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