HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mhk@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Mark Kaepplein x1517)
Subject: Re: EX500 For Sale
Reply-To: mhk@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Mark Kaepplein x1517)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 18:49:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.203151.16765@rchland.ibm.com> essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
> In article <1haf1iINNr66@mirror.digex.com>, wbrown@access.digex.com (William Brown) writes:
> |>           ******FORSALE******
> 
> |>   $2500/OBO - Must sell NOW - Divorce proceedings.
> |> 
> |> Respond to this account <wbrown@access.digex.com>
> |> 
> 
> now that's a switch.  usually it's "must sell now, getting married".
> 
He's just doesn't have a death wish any longer...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 01:39:13 GMT

In article <1hqiiqINNdjh@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU
(Michael Robinson) writes:
>Dear Abby instead used this opportunity to pontificate about the tremendous
>social responsibility of owning a motorcycle.

It sounded to me like Abby wondering to herself how
motorcyclists can deal with the potential liability
lawsuits.  I didn't notice any pontificating.

>(After all, anyone who has
>seen _The Wild One_ knows they're all a bunch of troublemakers anyway.)

This is totally gratuitous.  I've never seen Abby
write anything that tends to stereotype motorcyclists.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: ...oh those vile and evil deeds...
Summary: He got his!
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 13:44:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.215647.835@triage.UUCP> chris@triage.UUCP (Wheres my 650TT2 Ducati) writes:
>I used to like the mailman.  Well actually, _she_ was awefully cute.
>

  *** some useless drivel and lust-wish about his male-lady <!> deleted ***

>
>Suddenly, I froze.  Motionless.  My eyes scanned a horrid sight.  Whatever
>could the BMW Motorcycle (sic) Owners of America want with me?  I tore open
>the letter and cast my gaze upon the greatest injustices of all mankind!
>Someone had enrolled me in the ranks of the Great Unpassionate!!!
>
>Oh, what a vile thing this is!  Oh, what evil person could do such a thing?
>I knew of three.
>

   ***   lots more inane mouth frothing and blathering deleted   ***

>
>Shit!
>
>It has been said that the Vatican is tolerant.  And in this light, I should
>accept and receive the volumous propaganda that the bmw club puts out.  All
>I can say is, reading such things will only provide fodder for the Cannon!
>
>The guys and dolls that did this to me will pay.  And they will Pay again.
>Big Time.  They will not know when.  Nor where.  Nor at what hour.  But
>revenge WILL be mine!!!  NO ONE hoses my Christmas and gets away with it.
>

>Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
>The List ->  Ducatis: 650TT2, 500SL, 860GT   Yamaha: RD400F (for sale)
>


Now if wreck.moto just had his snail address, just think of the things
we could join for him !!!    :-)

Can somebody post this for the edification of the rest of us?


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: wolf@merlin.mt.att.com (Thomas Wolf)
Subject: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Reply-To: wolf@merlin.mt.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:25:16 GMT

Went to one of the local Honda dealers last night with thoughts of motorcycle
purchase on my mind, only to have my dreams shattered by the proverbial unmovable
object: the salesperson.  I thought I had it all figured out: take about $6K in
cash (well, a check anyway), mix in hopes of end-of-year bargains, add an '86
Nighthawk S for seasoning/trade-in (wholesale, according to the NADA bok = $1800),
and I thought I could walk away with a 1991 ST1100...but the sales dude wouldn't
move from his $7500 figure!  How can these guys take this position when the
bikes aren't selling all that well and, more importantly, they are last year's
models (actually, when the 93s come out in a few days/months, they'll be 2-year
old models.)

What's a fair selling price for a bike like this?

On a related subject: another dealer has had this black 1991 ST1100 sitting in
the showroom ever since the bike came out around the end of 1990 (or so it seems.)
I doubt whether a customer who was interested in that bike would be told this
tid-bit of information (who knows how many hands/butts have been on that
machine :-(...and that bike, too, has a sticker > $7500.

Any info is appreciated,
Tom

P.S.  I have been considering getting a BMW R100GS P-D, but that bike seems to
be an apparition: everyone has heard and seen it, but no dealer seems to have one :-)

---
+----------------------------------------+ ..I've been told my signature lacked
| Thomas Wolf   | (908) 957-3955         | originality...Of course it does!
| Bell Labs, NJ | wolf@merlin.mt.att.com | I'm a conservationist - and 
| MT 4D-213     | wolf@jolt.att.com      | originality, in my case,  is a
+----------------------------------------+ an extremely limited resource...
From: farid@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Hany Farid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Laws
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:48:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: /home/farid/.organization
In-reply-to: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp's message of 19 Dec 92 02:08:10 GMT


>Here's an interesting question (at least I think it is):  Why is the federal
>goverernment in the U.S. so intent on implementing helmet laws?  The federal
>government in the US certainly doesn't pay for the health care of most
>bike riders, so there goes that excuse.  They don't force seatbelt laws down
>people's throats, as far as I know,  
... [stuff delete]

I was under the impression that the federal government currently
threatens to reduce federal funding for highway repair and such if
states do not enact a mandatory seat-belt law.

Hany Farid
DoD #-2 (1986 Honda Shadow)
From: Neil@swamp.demon.co.uk (njb)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: using winter gloves for skiing
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:00:39 GMT
Organization: "Industrial EcoDeath Corp"


In article <726025853snz@morgan.demon.co.uk> tony@morgan.demon.co.uk writes:

>Hi Neil, You're a long way from cix!

But not from DIS :)  Hi tny, hows the ST ?

   Neil 

(One day, I *will* set up a sig file)
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:59:28 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:

>i bid $22, subject to previously-stated conditions.

I'm now bidding $23, same conditions, inclusive of shipping.
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG             |"The good news is that Clinton will have to
 Olivetti North America/Spokane,WA | work hard to do worse than Bush in terms
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439            | of economic policy.  The bad news is that
 Mail: carlp@mail.spk.olivetti.com | he will probably manage to do so"-Ed Ipser
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Application for DoD Membership
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:42:52 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
: In <1723@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
: 
: 
: >		I would like to make a formal request for DoD
: >		membership....
: 
: 	Isn't he cute?  A formal request in *THIS* newsgroup?  Hah!
: BTW: was it you who mailed me asking about membership?  Mail to you
: bounced, but a quick summary is to read the FAQ and ponder a bit.

	I've been accused of alot of things; polite, intorverted, other
	things I'd rather not say, but never cute. Which Address did
	you send to...I've got a bunch...VM, Vax, several Unix...an
	AOL...

: >	I've gone fast, I've dragged pegs and I've fallen.
: >		What else do  I need to do???
: 
: 	Reading the FAQ is a start.  A few decent flames might help, and
: then there is being a regular presence in this group.  You might also
: submit a bid for the bra auction, but this is certainly not required.
: A doctorate in physics might help in the flames, but won't be
: recognized here since we know all about phizziks here.

	well, lets see I've been reading since about last July. I think
	I've flamed one or two people...(I am generally pretty quiet
	about such things...I uped the ante to someone about my kilt
	having more init than his drawers (but I think that got cought
	by my system administrator...). I was a Physics major but
	decided I hated lots of Math...                 

			well???
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 18:55:35 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec22.042225.9174@elektro.cmhnet.org> charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>Who needs nitrous?  A current mag on the news stand has an article about a 
>turbocharged ZX-11, that did 215 MPH under test circumstances ...
[...]
>He did say that the turbo installation was only about another $5000 or so.
>How else can you go so fast for so little?

Yeah, did you catch the part about the thing pulling an unprovoked wheelie
on the editor at 100mph during the 1/4 mile?

Just what the world needs.  A $15k bike that can squash you flat like a bug
at DoD nominal+.


-- 
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  Michael Robinson                          UUCP:   ucbvax!cogsci!robinson
                                        INTERNET: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu
From: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: It's COLD, dammit!
Date: 2 Jan 93 09:43:49 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <ben.725957214@ipoint>, thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
> Yup.  Way cold.  I have no problems with this (hey, Santa left me nice
> new silk longjohns under the tree), and there wouldn't be any problem
> riding (roads are clear & dry), but I can't start my motorcycle!  (And
> groceries are getting low, so I need to start it soon!)


Cold??  You're griping about cold and you can still ride?  Let me tell
you about COLD . . .

<Much ranting deleted>
 
> Why won't it start?  Because my clutch cable is frozen.  Tomorrow I'll
> bring a hair dryer (and an extension cord) outside to thaw it :) , but
> of course it's going to happen again the next night.
> 
> So:
> 
>     a) This shouldn't happen, right?  Should I replace the cable?
>        (The ignition key is frozen too, but I know that's nothing
>         out of the ordinary, and I know how to deal with that.)
>

Frozen parts in the cold are usually from water condensing in them.  For
the cable, use WD-40 (WD stands for Water Displacement) followed by light
oil.  For the lock, DONT use anything but lock de-icer and powdered 
graphite.
 
>     b) How do I prevent it from happening every night?  Should I
>        resign myself to a hair dryer session every morning?
>
 
Once the water's gone, all you have to do is prevent it from coming back.
How did it get there in the first place?  Well, it depends on where your
motorcycle is stored.  If you don't have a sheltered, dry place to store
it, you're going to have more problems like this.  Even if it's in a 
garage, there tends to be more condensation problems in the cold. Keep 
all your parts well-lubricated and use WD-40 as needed.  Do the same for
your motorcycle *<;-)=

> Ben Cox, DoD#456
> thoth@uiuc.edu

Pooder - Rochester, MN - DoD #591 - LotN (Loser of the Number)
Sharing COLD garage space with: Gretchen - '86 K75 and Harvey - '72 CB500
"What Do *You* Care What Other People Think?" -- Richard Feynman
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:41:15 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

>$24, ditto, but *plus* shipping. I won't pay for handling, though,
>unless I also receive videotape of same.

Now bidding $25, Jody can decide whether that includes shipping or
not, other conditions as previously specified.
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG             |"The good news is that Clinton will have to
 Olivetti North America/Spokane,WA | work hard to do worse than Bush in terms
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439            | of economic policy.  The bad news is that
 Mail: carlp@mail.spk.olivetti.com | he will probably manage to do so"-Ed Ipser
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Re: Almost got me today, film at 11
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:26:16 GMT

charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
: 
: What do I see, but Bambi making a kamakaze streak for the van about 50 yards
: in front of me.  I hit the brakes, and look around because where there's
: one there may be five.  Not five, I only spot one more - just Bambi's buddy 
: Ralph (who clearly has been attack trained) headed straight for my bike!
: Hard on the brakes, with ABS cycling on the rear - just miss the critter!
: 
Whow! Dear stories. 

September. I'm riding south on Hwy 9 from Skyline to Santa Cruz when a
GSRX750 blows by me - and obvious challenge! So I downshift 2 gears to 
get the RGV250 into the powerband and follow catch up with 'The Fast One'

Now Hwy 9 is a FUN road winding down the Santa Cruz mountains. Snaking
through forests and Redwood trees. Going at considerable speed we're
enjoying ourselfs with the 750 leading most of the time. Coming out of a
fast turn I am trailing the 750 by about 10 meters when a suddenly a 
medium sized deer launches itself across the street. The 750 hits the 
deer dead center. I can see it's head snap back and dent the tank before
careening off the upper fairing and sliding into the ditch. To my
utter amazement, the 750 stayed upright. We pulled over and inspected
the bike, which had suffered serious damage to its fairing, tank and
headlight assembly, but was otherwise in good shape.

I can't even imagine what the outcome would have been if instead of the
400+ pound 750 I would have had the displeasure to impact with the deer
on the 300 pound RGV.

-- 

Roland Besserer
QUAD Systems
roland@quadsys.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 03:23:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.191329.14845@colorado.edu> laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>In article <carlp.725220586@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>>laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>>
>>>As my esteemed colleage Mr. Tod J. Johnson has upped the bid.
>>>I will follow through with another bid.
>>
>>Since my noted compatriot Mr. Laszxthlo Nemeth has failed to follow
>>through with another bid as promised, I now bid $31.
>>
>
>ok so i thought i had put in a bid but i forgot.
>my bid is now at $32 and if i get this job i am interviewing
>for i will be able to out bid all of you.
>
>laz

Not to let Laz get a bid in edgewise, at least one that stays,
I'll bid $38 with the previously stated conditions as specified ...

Oh Yea, Jody - does this have air circulation vents in the bottom and
top?  

Charlie Smith,   DoD #0709
From: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Honda CX500 Turbo
Date: 31 Dec 1992 01:01:02 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu
Originator: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU

About how much would one expect to pay for a CX500 Turbo (77hp, fuel-
injected turbocharged V-twin) with 1,800 miles in excellent condition?

Is this a bike worth owning?  (After all, how many factory-turbo V-twins
have the Japanese made?)

Does anyone have any personal experience with the performance/handling 
characteristics of the bike?

Thanks.

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                                        INTERNET: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Date: 24 Dec 1992 21:25:58 GMT
Organization: Woopie Tech
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ravi@cs.wpi.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu

prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange) writes:
= A"brazier" is something that holds a fire. Perhaps you mean to fire up
= your fantasies about the contents of a brassier? Whatever turns you on...

    the contents of a brassiere would, i assume, turn on men, but pray
    tell more about what this thing called "brassier" could possibly
    contain? ;-)

    speeling fiames suk!

=Happy Holidays

    and a wonderful new year to you,

    peace,

    - ravi

-- 
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.sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one  | Ravi Narayan, CS, WPI
          end and flames at the other. (C).   | 89 SuzukiGS500E - Phaedra ;)
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From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Protection for Your Bike
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:40:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1646@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM, hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo) writes:
>any suggestions for good bike alarm systems?  

The best bike alarm is one that is installed in your locked garage.

The kryptonite bar, a chain, etc. may keep joyriders off the bike, it
will only mildly annoy a professional bike thief.  All alarms can be
disconnected at leisure while the bike is in a van cruising down the
road, after the 2.3 seconds it takes to pick it up.  Since most of them
run off the battery, it ain't that hard to do anyway.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Tire gauges (Make your own)
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 14:17:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.190403.18244@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <959@bbkingMDC.unisys.COM> rmarks@MDC.Unisys.COM (Richard Marks) writes:
>>
>>MAKE your own gauge.
>>
>>Go to Sears or any plumbing shop and get a 0-60 pound pressure
>>gauge intended for a water well tank.  This will have a male pipe thread.
>>
>>Go to an auto parts store (Pep Boysstocks this stuff) and get a small
>>air chuck.  This will have a female pipe thread.  Also get a standard
>...
>
>Well, I _do_ have an old pressure guage from a convection-circulation hot
>water heater that used to be in our basement, that read up to about 50 pounds...
>The problem I have with most homebrew arrangements that have been
>suggested, though, is that the more internal volume you have in the system,
>the larger the incremental loss you have every time you check a tire.
>Not a big deal on truck tires; moreso on motorcycle or bicycle tires...
>plus, the whole thing must fit in the glove compartment, or it'll never
>get used.  I guess I'll just get one of the cheap Bourdon tube guages,
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>calibrate it against a pencil guage at the pressure of interest with a
>mark on the face, and tell my wife to ignore the numbers and inflate to
>the red line...  (All attempts to explain this wouldn't be a problem
>if I bought a compressor/regulator setup have been in vain - I think
>Karin figured out my ulterior motive... :')
>
>Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
>jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL

Cheap booze will get you every time.  Me, I'll go mooch the expensive stuff!
Besides, if you give cheap booze to your wife you'd better keep her off
your bike ... or was it your truck whe was going to use?
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 16:52:08 CET
From: Roy Jaques <RJAQUES@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: International motorcycle tours

Done it many times...

1. Get on bike and ride to docks
2. Ride bike on ferry
3. Enjoy nice ferry ride
4. Ride bike off ferry in next country.

This was when I lived in Britain. I now live in the Netherlands so I dont
need to worry about the ferry crossing unless I have the misfortune to be
going back to Britain. Hence on 24/12/92 the trip is Netherlands - Belgium -
France then on the hovercraft to England. International trips - No Problem

Roy Jaques
From: ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Beer in saddlebags (was Re: Fabulous DoD Babes For Jeff)
Keywords: Beer- (like you guys couldn't figure it out ?? sheesh)
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:56:07 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Dec22.174431.2513@spdc.ti.com> crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder) writes:

|>I'm not much of a wine drinker.  What I've been using for a couple of
|>years is a soft-sided cooler made by coleman.  It'll hold two six packs
|>of beer, a bag of ice and a water canteen quite nicely.  This neatly 
|>fits into one of the beemer's hard bags with room to spare.  It keeps
|>ice all day long even when it's really hot outside.  It has a zipper
|>closure,  but doesn't leak as long as you keep it upright.  Best of 
|>all, it cost < $20.  I think I got mine at K-Mart, but I've seen 
|>them at other discount stores as well.   Don't leave home without
|>it!

Also, these coolers fold up quite nicely and are great for going for a
run to the store after arriving at camp or the motel/hotel during those
long tours.  I have used my many times.  Be sure to check it out, you will
not be disappointed.  FYO, I've gotten 16 beers and ice in ojne and on
my bike with no trouble :-).


-- 
Mike Marler                        | "Saving every nickel to spend on my
Internet: ccastmm@prism.gatech.edu |  my next set of thrills..." -somebody
Disclaimer: These views are not and should not be viewed as those of OIT.
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From: gallant@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Gallant)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Tire gauges (was: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast...)
Date: 29 Dec 92 13:43:12 GMT
Reply-To: gallant@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Gallant)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I purchased a nice gauge from Racers Wholesale Warehouse.  It has 24"
hose, angled connector, bleed valve, and rubber boot. It cost $25.

I checked my el-cheapo pencil type gauge against the new gauge at various
pressures.  Both were identical.  The new gauge is easier to use but
the $0.99 cheapie is just as accurate

Rob
gallant@oasys.dt.navy.mil