HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hoekstra@cs.utwente.nl (Aarnoud Hoekstra)
Subject: FLA discography
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:17:47 GMT

Hi to you all,

Is there anyone out there who can e-mail me a Front Line Assembly discography ?

Thanx in advance,

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(hoekstra@cs.utwente.nl)
From: blakesle@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Charles D Blakeslee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN PHM cover
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:11:05 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

The cover of land of rape and honey appears to be a desicated head from the side view. Face down with something stuffed in the mouth...the ear seems half rotted off...no hair remaining.
 
 Glad to be of help.

Squid-Toad
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From: terry@rod.mitre.org (Terry Reed)
Subject: Re: Anybody knows THUD?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:59:39 GMT

I saw Thud open for Godflesh at the 9:30 club in Wash, DC last year & wasn't that impressed 
with them.  It was just the run of the mill growling/screaming vocals with loud guitars.  I like
this style of music, but just didn't think they were that good.  Godflesh on the other hand,
put on a good show - does the bass player ever move or change expressions?  What I
thought was particularly cool was watching (& listening) to J. Broderick build his "wall
of sound" at the end of each set.  

           Terry

"War & courage have done more great things than love of the neighbor " - Nietzsche
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From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: pigface members
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:47:59 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <hopson.728081918@sfu.ca> hopson@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher H.G. Hopson) writes:

>B

>>Come on now, Pigface was probably the worst show I had ever seen save
>>  My Life with the Thrill Kill Cult's last tour. Plus there's also the
>>  fact that they refuse to use opening bands with drummers as was the
>>  case with us getting nixed from the show with them here in SF.
>>  Anyways...

>Are you sure you aren't letting bitterness affect your judgement ? When I saw
>them I thought they were fantastic, as did many other people I'm sure.

>Anyways... Why do they refuse to use opening bands with drummers ?

At the Dallas show, the Evil Mothers opened for Pigface. The Evil
Mothers (from Satan Antonio) include two drummers (one on a stand 
up regular kit and the other on steel drums).

--Rob   spray@convex.com


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From: irving@halcyon.com (Larry Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Its in my brain now
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:51:47 GMT

"Roger, copy" could be any one of a number of transmissions to an Apollo
moon mission from mission control in Houston.  Most likely it is part of
Apollo XI, because they used a lot of samples from that in songs on
"Armed Audio Warfare" and "Storm the Studio".

Seems to me that NASA is the singular most popular source of sampled
sounds, second only to James Brown records.  (I wouldn't be at all
surprised if MBM has sampled those, too.)

-- 
Larry Gilbert       |  		"Try psychoactive drugs!"
irving@halcyon.com  | 
finger for PGP key  | 						E B N
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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Ministry samples Nine Inch Nails !
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 23:39:52 GMT

I've seen the new Ministry single in us domestic digipak
in Peoria, IL.  Certainly not a rarity.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
        There are always connections; you have only to want to find them
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From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Ministry samples Nine Inch Nails !
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:44:01 GMT

In article <C1H316.E59@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis) writes:
>
>>Listen to Track 2, 'Quick Fix' on the 'Just One Fix' single, and at 3:28,
>>guess what that is...  yup, Al sampled the very end of 'Gave Up' from Broken
>>by NIN.
>
>>By the way, the Just One Fix single is great.  Anything with Burroughs is
>>great anyway, but the mixes are really interesting...
>
>Hmm...is this single available easily, or is it an import or what.  I haven't
>seen any Ministry singles anywhere, and I would like to buy some :)
>
>					the man

Well, I found it in the musical wasteland of Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario...so
it can't be that hard to find. I think its a German import, but it was still
pretty cheap, 10 bucks or so (that's Canadian $). Al & co. did a much better
job on this single than "N.W.O.". The extended version of "Just One Fix" is
actually significantly different than the album version. "Quick Fix" I like
a lot. Besided the NIN sampling, there's a bunch of samples of dance music
that I don't recognize (gladly).
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From: marc@csi.on.ca (Marc Sherman)
Subject: Re: LPD Mailing list
Reply-To: msherman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: Carp Systems International
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:32:49 GMT

In <C1693p.7AE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> erwin@helsinki.ks.uiuc.edu (Edgar Erwin) writes:

>> Does anyone know the status of the Legendary Pink Dots mailing list?

>It still exists.  However, whoever is in charge of adding/removing names from  
>the list seems to be away or neglecting his/her duties.  If you've sent a  
>subscribe message, just sit tight.  Eventually you will probably be added.   

Well, I've been sitting tight for the last 3 months, after having sent
about five subscribe messages.  Shouldn't that kind of thing be
handled by a daemon of some sort?  I thought that list servers were
automated.

I tried writing to postmaster@stolaf.edu, and he told me that the
owner of the list has graduated, and is now at a site without telnet
access.  Thusly, (s)he cannot get at the computer at stolaf to update
the list.  (S)he also has not returned the mail I sent to the new
address listed in the stolaf .plan file.

Is there anyone out there (preferably also located at stolaf.edu, to
minimize the transfer headaches) who can take over the list?  I'd
really like to get on, and I know of at least a couple of people who'd
really like OFF the list, but are also being ignored.
-- 
Marc Sherman - 3A? SD Eng. | Gemutlich, gemutlich, GEMUTLICH!
msherman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca | Die Welt ist gemutlich mit die Kasewaffe!
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From: mhaitkin@scott.skidmore.edu (meredith haitkin)
Subject: SID... WHERE ARE YOU?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:17:47 GMT



well, where are you...I'm so concerned!!!
			Love, Meri
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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Dave Kendell
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 17:07:03 GMT

In <1898.67.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew)  writes:
>EK>Excuse me?  I'm certainly not a fan of Dave, but I can't imagine how you
>EK>find their subsequent line-up of "guest hosts" to be an improvement.  Except
>EK>for the two guys in Soul Asylum, who seemed like they were stoned, all the
>EK>others just sat there and read the cue cards in a nice flat monotone,
>EK>without much emotion at all.  At least Dave looked like he was enjoying
>EK>himself most of the time, though he couldn't interview his way out of a
>EK>paper bag.  But he was fun to watch.
>Since all the videos on 120 Minutes are now either 60's retro or
>suburban punk crap, as if it weren't this way in the past... The most
>entertaining thing about the show is counting how many times the guest
>hosts plug thier band's... the guy from The The, last Sunday, came quite
>close to passing the century mark! Anyways...

Th' Th' is what they really ought to call his band, since that's how
he pronounces it. :-)


I did hear that they played an Orb video a few weeks ago, so I've been
hoplessly taping the damn thing in the chance of catching it again.

No such luck.  Not much else of note either.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
             "See you guys ar--see you.  Er.  Great.  Fine.  Ciao."
     As the Bently skidded off into the darkness Ligur said, "Wossat mean?"
            "It's Italian," said Hastur.  "I think it means 'food'."
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From: a.norrish@trl.oz.au (Mark E. Smith's speech therapist-ah)
Subject: Re: J.G. Thirlwell
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:43:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.011520.26820@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> wgns@troi.cc.rochester.edu (C. Wiggins) writes:

>Could someone give me a list of everything that J.G. Thirlwell had a hand
>in?  I want to own everything he's touched.

Ms. Lunch may not be very keen on this.

Andrew Norrish.

'Free James Brown so he can run me down'
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From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Cabaret Voltaire--opinions?
Organization: Charnel House
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:29:46 GMT

awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
: And lo, cnc@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Christopher Christensen) spake unto the
: masses saying:
: >
: > I just picked up CV/'The Living Legends' on CD and I was wondering
: > if any CV afficianados out there could give me their opinions of
: > this disc..  basically, does this give me a good sampling of their
: > best earlier work?
: 
: As for what the best overview of early material is...hmm, well _The Golden
: Moments Of Cabaret Voltaire_ on Rough Trade is, if it's still available, a
: step up on _Living Legends_ and it's a reasonable sweep over their early
: material including some album tracks.

I don't think that one's available any more. I haven't seen it in years.
I've got it and "Living Legends" and they make a good combination.

: The one I'd really recommend though
: is the _Listen Up_ double disc set. Now while this is notionally a set of
: rarities and previously unreleased material, it's got some really good
: stuff on it, gives a broad overview of pretty much their entire output from
: 1978 or so right up to, oh, I'd guess about 1985, and manages to really
: capture the feel of the band without actually duplicating material. So
: unlike _The Golden Moments_, which becomes redundant as soon as you've
: bought all the albums, it's one you can keep and cherish until death :-)

I dunno; I had it and decided to sell it back because there wasn't much
reason to keep it. I like their older stuff, which the two above CDs
covers well. I've got the other early LPs, and over half of "Listen Up"
is somewhat later stuff after the disco feeling started to creep into
their work.

For someone who's interested in an overview of their sound I suppose
it might do, but you're likely to find it redundant if you begin to
pick up the albums.


<====================================================================>
   Mason Jones               Charnel House Productions
   mason@netcom.com          P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco, CA
                             94117-0277    Phone/fax (415) 255-8554
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From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Videos (was Re: SPVideos)
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:06:30 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> Having seen the video, how can something be banned that takes its material
> from R-rated horror flicks?

Erm, because they took the material from the horror flicks without
asking??? Given what I've heard of the Worlock vid, copyright problems with
the clips used seem as/more likely to be the source of a ban than gore
content.

What's always puzzled me is why Cabaret Voltaire have never had problems
with *their* videos being banned. Here in the UK the _Cabaret Voltaire
Presents_ video has an E (exemption) certificate because it's a music
video, yet some of the stuff hidden away in those videos just couldn't be
shown in the UK except in the sort of cinema whose clientele wears dirty
macs and has hairy palms :-)

-- 
			Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
	  Department Of Computer Science, The University of Edinburgh
   Rm 1410, JCMB, Kings Buildings, Mayfield Rd, EDINBURGH, EH9 3JZ, Scotland
	     Tel: +44 (0) 31 650 5165  Fax: +44 (0) 31 667 7209
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From: jasonh@cae.wisc.edu (Hager Jason)
Subject: Re: pigface members
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Date: 24 Jan 93 05:17:29 CST


 Martin Atkins: Killing Joke, Murder Inc., played with ministry, etc.
     According to the liner notes on `Gub', Pigface IS Atkins and Bill
     Rieflin, with everybody else.
 Chris Connely: RevCo, Ministry, Murder Inc., plus solo work 
 William Tucker: My Life With The Thrill Kill Cult (I believe that he also   
     played with Ministry)
 Ogre:  Skinny Puppy
 EnEsch: KMFDM
 Mary Byker: Gaye Bykers on Acid
 Barbara Hunter: Although I know of no other releases she is on, she is one
     of the regular touring members of pigface.  She is a cellist.  (The cello
     goddess)  She played the electric cello on tour with Pigface and she is
     a gorgeous woman.
 Matt Schultz: Lab Report
 Andrew Weiss: Rollins Band

 I saw them live in Madison, WI and they were incredible.  The regular touring 
members were: En Esch, Atkins, Tucker, the cello goddess, and Hope Nichols, of 
Fetchin' Bones and some other band (She is also great looking.  I haven't seen
too many beautiful women with purple hair).  Schultz was also present, as the 
show was "Pigface, with Lab Report".  Connelly and Rieflin are currently on tour
with Ministry.  David? Yow of the Jesus Lizard also may appear with them, in
addition to Genesis P-Orridge and Paul Raven.
  Flour plays with: Flour

                           -I

                            Necrophage/Feast

 
      
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From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Subject: Re: where'd she go?
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:29:44 GMT

H5FK <H5FK@UNB.CA> writes:
}   i was directed here by a person named ramona.  at the risk of
} sounding really lame, i assume that's a girls name or the name of an
} extremely unfortunate guy.  my point is that whoever it was they
} were neat and i want them to write me again if they don't mind.
} maybe we could get a friendship going here.

take this to alt.personals


-- 
   Alexander Feygin           "Tell me something I don't know"
  a-feygin@uiuc.edu                      --Ministry

The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO
From: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: CDs For Sale
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:51:00 GMT
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Reply-To: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew) 

LCW>Plateau, Iao Core, and Turbo Messiah)

Iao Core, ugh! (sorry John & Luz). Probably the worst band that's opened
  for us so far. Anyways...

T$ / KF
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From: etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Carl JF Ekstrom)
Subject: Re: techno - industrial?
Reply-To: etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Burgess Hill, England
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:44:31 GMT

In article 1k8q5mINN6ij@jhunix6.hcf.jhu.edu, illmade@jhunix6.hcf.jhu.edu (Tracey M Burroughs) writes:
> In article <30289@oasys.dt.navy.mil> sgrant@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sally Grant) writes:
> 
> >Is there a difference between techno and industrial? Can anyone recommend
> >some good examples of either one or both (ie bands).
> 
> a major difference.  I think most'll agree when I say that industrial
> includes bands like skinny puppy, older ministry (twitch), cyberaktif,
> and leatherstrip.  Some would consider this stuff to be 'industial lite',
> and consider Einstuzende Neubauten, throbbing gristle, test dept and 
> current 93 are more _truly_ industrial. 
> 
> Techno music, on the other hand seems to be a more clinical, grinding
> version of house music.  Techno appropriated a lot of 'industrial sounds',
> but is much less more obviously produced by technology than say skinny pup
> who'll at least pull out some guitars and bleed when you see them live.
> 
> 
Try Steel Porn Rhino for "industrial" on the border of techno or Sheep On Drugs
for Techno on the border of "industrial".

Steel Porn is brilliant!

Much later / Carl
From: cmoore@lab3.smcm.edu (Christopher Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SPVideos (was:Re: chris & cosey)
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:24:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.054413.16557@doug.cae.wisc.edu> jasonh@cae.wisc.edu  
(Hager Jason) writes:
> 
> As far as I know, the only song off of `Last Rights' to have a video was 
> "Killing Game".
>                    --I
> 
>                      Necrophage/Picnic
on the topic of skinny puppy videos, they're supposedly releasing them all  
sometime this spring....i believe there are videos of smothered hope, far  
too frail, testure, dig it, warlock, and killing game, and probably  
others....i've only seen dig it and killing game.  it will be difficult to  
find this video if warlock is on it, it's banned everywhere.  my friend  
saw it in england, and it consists mostly of violent scenes such as  
people's throats being slit and blood pouring down drains....tast-y!!
c.morpheus
"he was here before christ...rawhead!!!"
From: blakesle@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Charles D Blakeslee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy tour?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:09:02 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

A Spuppy tour of the US? wheee.....I missed the last one because the only played a 21 and over bar in phoenix...I certainly hope they can do better this time around, as I've still a year to go before the 21st birthday.
 
 Squid-Toad
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From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: pigface members
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:11:52 GMT

The (shitty local) band that opened for them in denver had a 
drummer.
 The show was incredible, and everyone who was there that I've
spoken with agrees...


 coprophiliac


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From: vidarh@cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative,rec.music.alternative
Subject: Consolidated mix Bel Canto!
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:43:46 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway

I just talked to Anneli,the singer in Bel Canto, and she had some news:

Consolidated have mixed Shimmering Warm & Bright for a possible future  US 
release. She didn't know wether it was planned as a club 12" or for inclusion
on the normal CD-single. 

Bye,
Vidar

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From: ls36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louis Frank Smolenski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: pigface in pittsburgh
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:58:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8fMnh_W00Uh_03a444
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Pigface is coming on February 1st with the opening band Lab Report. 
Ticket can be purchased at the usually locations,  Ticketmaster, NRM's,
Oasis, and Kaufmann's.  Phone charging is 323-1919.  Graffiti's phone
number is 682-4210 if you need more information.

-SLouis
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:47:39 -0500 
From: Edward Pak <ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ministry's "Hisbulla"?

it's available on the CD of LAND OF RAPE AND HONEY.... track number 6...
called HIZBOLLAH......


...............................................................................
.

                           EDDIE....

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From: kuschel@ecf.toronto.edu (KUSCHEL BORIS)
Subject: LAIBACH
Summary: General information
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: World
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:25:15 GMT

Does anyone know when laibach will tour again. What are the names of the group members anyways. I only know that they like to be called "members of Laibach" but that doesn't help. I have Kapital, Opus Dei, and Symapathy for the Devil. I was woundering what other releases are good?



Unrelated to the above, what CD is Temple of Love on by Sister's?
From: pa_aml@dec17.coe.northeastern.edu (Andrew Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: what i've heard from alien.
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:11:05 GMT
	<1993Jan17.232953.29142@selway.umt.edu> <mikef.0pev@amiganet.chi.il.us>
	<C1FAC3.966@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University

Is'nt it _The Book of The Law_ not _The Book of Lies_???

(that Psalm 69 refers too....)
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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: what i've heard from alien.
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:36:02 GMT

In article <mikef.0pev@amiganet.chi.il.us> mikef@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mike Fleming) writes:
>>well, on a mtv interveiw with alien jourgensen during the lolla' tour the
>>name was explained to be either 'psalm, chapter or verse'.  al also said
>>that was unimportant.  it's the 69 that matters.  i'll talk to my classical
>>mythology prof about a translation.  he's the local expert on greek.
>
>I believe I've stated this before, but no one quite seems to catch it.
>
>Psalm 69 is a "Chapter" in Aleister Crowley's _Book Of Lies_.  (Jourgenson,
>apparently, is a real big mage/magik fan...in fact one of the songs on _The
>Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste_ contains a chant which is supposed to summon
>an angel apparently....  A friend of mine who is a mage/magik freak told me
>this, so...)
>
>Anyway, the chapter "Psalm 69" in _The Book Of Lies_ is about oral sex rituals
>(big surprise here).  Apparently, Crowley believed that human sexual secretions
>were a path to eternal life.  I did read the first paragraph of the chapter,
>and it was so inexplicably twisted that even I had to put the book down.

Ummm...excuse me? (pulls out his nice, hardbound copy of _The Book of Lies_)
Chapters in _The Book of Lies_ are all short _verses_. They don't have
paragraphs. Are you sure you're talking about _The Book of Lies_ by Aleister
Crowley, or is the book you're consulting just lying to you? :)
	I'm not one to whole-hog defend Thelemic philosophy, but I do think
if you're going to cite something, you oughta cite it correctly.

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)


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