From: msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis)
Subject: Re: Continuation on CYPRUS, Palikaria Terrorists and Makarios!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:02:47 GMT
Keywords: Palikaria, Enosis, PKK, Troodos Mts, South Cyprus

baysan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Okan Baysan) has again
very conviniently deleted my request for giving us the references for his
previous postings regarding the Greek Cypriot plan of ethnic cleansing 
against the Turkish Cypriots.

We are also told:

>>Where do you see greed in all this? 
>>So you want us just to say ok what you've taken is gone, let's forget
>>about it and start with what you let us have......

>And you will have to return the rights of Turkish Cypriots that you have
>barbarically grasped from 1963 until 1974 in order to start a peaceful 
>basis for a possible solution.

So the basis for any settlement will be today's statu quo.
I guess the means employed for the establisment and all the violations
that occured in the process are just details.

The rights of the Turkish Cypriot people were not barbarically grasped
by anyone, they were irresponsibly abandoned by them, under the 
influence of Denktash.

>>When Mr. Denktash asked Mr. Vassiliou to "forget MORFOU" in
>>New York, he was basically asking him to deny the right of the
>>people from MORFOU (Morfites) to return.

>Of course there will be mutual sacrifices from both sides in  order to reach
>for a solution. If you don't want to sacrifce anything, the history will
>repeat itself again and it will be the Turkish Cypriots who will suffer.
>Not a chance any more!

And what are the sacrifices that you are making?

>>No, I donot have Turkophobia, I got over it after the first months of my
>>military service, during which i had to see the shining bayonets and
>>the hundreds of tanks beyond the Green Line for two years.

>Oh, you mean  you have gained so much confidence from the bayonets,
>missiles, tanks and helicopters that Aloneftis bought you that you have
>the guts to challenge the Turkish Peace keepers. Fine, go ahead...

Oh.  Has Turkey decided to join the UNFICYP force now that Denmark and
Canada are pulling their forces out? Strange, I haven't heard anyting
in the news?

You understood right. A few points to note:  
Aloneftis is not the one who bought the weapons.  It is the 3% contribution
by every Cypriot who has been buying them.  Finally, we do not buy 
bayonets we make them ourselves.

>>EOKA.  What has really fasinated me about those people was their character.

>If the Palikaria character fascinates you, why don't you adopt it ? Or are
>you one?

I wish I could?  Think about it:  
It takes a lot to decide to stay in a hole and be burned alive,
and it doesn't take less to face the gallows when you are only
17 years old.


>>How can any country recognize independence and sovereignty of a state 
>>which was set up by military force, and in doing so it has violated
>>every single international law.

>Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is an independent and sovereign 
>country unlike the greek cypriot sector in Southern Cyprus. If TRNC
>has not received any more recognition than what it has now, it is simply
>due to the relentless propaganda of the Greek/Greek Cypriot governments.
>Turkish Cypriot people are patient and Turkiye's recognition is very
>much appreciated any time. 

Veru nice answer and to the point.  I really have nothing to debate it
with.......Try to be relevant.

>Good Luck, Michali!
Appreciate your wishes.


>Cheers,
>Okan Baysan

Eiba,
-- 
Michalis Syrimis
University of Illinois
Urbana-Champaign

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