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From: pgallant@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnant and wedding rings too tight
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:34:38 GMT

From article <1992Sep6.231728.14576@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, by cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes):
> OK, here's a question for you moms and moms-to-be:
> Rings.  Especially wedding/engagment/bridal sets.  I am 20
> weeks pregnant and much to my dismay, just had to take off my
> bridal set......it was getting tighter and tighter
> 
[rest of story deleted]
> Christine
> mom-2-b in Jan. '93
> 
> attme!alcmd   or   alcmd@attme.att.com


Don't worry, all of my friends and family have had to take off their
rings.  I remember taking off mine and not liking it.  The reason that
your fingers get big is from water retention more than weight gain.
I also had to give up some of my favorite shoes for a while since they
were getting too tight.  I would wait at least 6 months after the baby
is born before you do anything drastic to your rings because you may
not have to.  I debated on getting my rings loosened and I'm glad I
didn't.  My rings fit fine in a few months.  Even if you have trouble
losing weight right away, you fingers will probably go back to their
original size sooner than you think.


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From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: 2YO wakes early for milk bottle
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:17:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Davis

We now give Sean, our 2 year old (3 in Dec.), his milk bottle once a day, 
when he wakes up in the morning. Lately he has been waking up at 5 AM 
wanting it, and we, spineless parents that we are, have just been giving it
to him. But it's wearing us down. So, should we (a) tough it out and let him
cry for it (maybe visit him once or twice) and then give it to him at a more
reasonable hour, say 6, (b) eliminate the morning milk bottle altogether 
(he gets water in a bottle when he goes to bed), (c) insert suggestion 
of your choice here.

Constructive comments welcome.

Richard
From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pacifiers
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:16:58 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson


 reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland) writes:

|>  (By the way, pacifiers aren't recommended for very
|> young breastfeeding kids; supposedly, very young infants don't really grok
|> the difference between eating and just sucking, and may not get enough milk
|> if their sucking instinct is satisfied non-nutritively.

I guess someone forgot to tell Jordan this.  He likes his pacifier,
and he _loves_ to eat.  I think he's pushing 14 pounds--and he was 8
weeks old yesterday.  I can't believe how big he's getting.

Big question: when do you stop offering the pacifier?  I hate to see
an older child with one--and don't even like the way it hides Jordan's
mouth now.   I don't want it to turn into his "lovey", but I don't
want to take it from him if he still needs non-nutritive sucking.

--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu
(who is a super-mom-cow)   (hi tigger!)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: choi@wk59.nas.nasa.gov (Diana Choi)
Subject: Re: in vitro, or not in vitro?
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:56:26 GMT

(Curt Kolovson) writes:
>Pardon me if this is a FAQ, but we have been told to consider in vitro 
>fertilization by my wife's OB/GYN.  Does anyone have any experience with 
>this?  I've read about it, and heard things second-hand -- all of which leads
>me not to want to try it.  It costs about $10K a pop (so to speak), and the
>odds are only about 1/3, so the avg cost for a pregnancy is likely to be $30K.

Ours cost $5,000 at UCSF (4/91).  Their success rate is around 25%, and
varies substantially, depending on the age of the mother and number of
embryos transferred.  I was very fortunate - we conceived and delivered
on the first try. (I was 38 and we transferred 4 "good" embryos and 2
"okay" ones.)

(Curt Kolovson) writes:
>There's also a lot of nasty things to be prepared for, like having them go 
>in and terminate some of the developing embryos if too many are making it 
>in the early stages.  

This is probably only applicable if 3 or more embryos implant.  They quoted
the probability of triplets or greater as 2%.  The probability of twins
is quite high, though - 25%. (I wanted twins...but happily settled for one.)

(Clare Chu) writes:
>  One of my coworkers is going through this process and she said there were
>  all these legal forms and lawyers to consult, about what to do with
>  the frozen embryos, and whose property it was, etc., etc., etc.
>  In her case I think her tubes are blown so she has to go this route.

Nope, we had none of this ...i dunno - maybe this is new?

(Curt Kolovson) writes:
>My wife is 41, I'm 35, and we've been trying to have children for about a 
>year (since we've been married).  My wife did get pregnant last December, but
>unfortunately it ended in a miscarriage.  We've been trying since then, but 
>no luck so far.  I know this is fairly "normal", and that we should probably 
>just keep trying and not resort to in vitro, which is my inclination anyway.
>We have been trying lesser things up till now (we do the BBT charts, tried
>the "ovulation predictor kits", she's been taking clomed for several months, 
>and we tried artificial insemination the last 2 months, all to no avail).  
 
Yep, sounds like everythings working.....why would you need invitro?.  Given
your wife's age, you really haven't been trying very long (9 months since 
her miscarriage).  You could consider switching to Pergonal and AI...I 
know a couple of women who got pregnant that way after failing with clomed.

(Curt Kolovson) writes:
>Personally, I have very little faith in "medical technology" and "infertility 
>specialists" in general.

Really?  After trying for 5 years and then going to UCSF and getting pregnant
the first time, I think they're great.

diana
From: howie@cfarer.boeing.com (Howie Modell)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: You know you're a parent ....
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:38:44 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group

... when you find yourself holding perfectly calm, perfectly serious
conversations re things to do after you die, conversations that only make
sense when you're talking to your child during a Nintendo session.

... when the idea of changing a child's diaper in public stops being an
activity you would rather die than perform, and becomes instead something
you do without thinking.

... when you find that you still perform "rocking" motions while standing
in line at a store, even though it has been years since your child needed a
stroller or carriage.

+----All opinions expressed are mine and *NOT* my employers!----+
   howard modell, Boeing Defense & Space group, Seattle, WA
         howie@cfarer.boeing.com, h.modell@online.com,
         h.modell@ieee.org,   72376.252@compuserve.com
From: hancock@Aero.org (Melody F. Hancock)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Caffeine during Pregnancy
Date: 9 Sep 1992 20:26:02 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lotus.aero.org
Keywords: how much?

<stuff deleted>
|> 
|> I too was worried about caffeine.  I have read that up to three cups of coffee
|> (or the equivilant) is ok.  Still coffee is one of those things that the mere
|> smell of it makes me want to heave so I have had no trouble skipping it
|> totally.  Diet soda, on the other hand, I haven't been able to do without.
|> Everyone I've talked to in the health care office says one or two servings of
|> Nutrasweet is ok, but saccarhine is OUT totally.  That is what I've followed.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^

Just a quick note to let you know that fountain diet sodas contain saccarhine.
So be careful about ordering diet sodas from fast food restaurants etc.  
Apparently, it's difficult to stabilize nutrasweet in the syrup, so they
go with saccarhine.  I read this in a consumer reports.  Sorry, can't remember
the exact issue


Melody
hancock@aero.org
From: skejriwa@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Sangita Kejriwal)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: "Missing out" (was. re:  Justin...)
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:37:13 GMT
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS

<1992Sep3.173500.15193@cbnewse.cb.att.com> <3498@master.CNA.TEK.COM>
<1992Sep4.131221.12409@afit.af.mil>
Reply-To: skejriwa@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Sangita Kejriwal)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS
Keywords: 

In article <1992Sep4.131221.12409@afit.af.mil> mgaudrea@afit.af.mil (Michele
L.D. Gaudreault) writes:
>In article <3498@master.CNA.TEK.COM> judyd@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E. Drake)
writes:
>>
>>I still don't understand why so many people choose pain over
>>no pain when the health of the baby is not affected. 
>
>Because a lot of people feel that pain medication is a risk to the
>health of the baby and the mother.
>
>>I've
>>had two birth experiences--one unmedicated (except for pitocin,
>>that is), and one epidural, and the painless one was way more
>>enjoyable and exhilarating than the painful one, for everyone
>>involved (just ask my husband).
>>
>Pitocin induced labors are usually a *lot* more painful than "natural"
>labors.
>
>I've had two birth experiences--one medicated and one unmedicated.
>The "painful" one was way more enjoyable and exhilarating than the medicated 
>one, for everyone involved (just ask my husband).
>
>Everyone has to find what's best for them.
>
>Michele

"DITTO!"... I had a "painless" birth(epidural), in 1991 & had a natural
childbirth 2 weeks back... The second experience was definitely
more enjoyable, exhilerating, & I felt myself participating
all the way... 
BUT...though my first labor experience was "painless", the feeling
of seing my firstborn make his appearance & cry loudly had the 
same "undescribe-able" feelings on me as this time when I was
under no medication!!!
                                Sangita.
-- 

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****************     Sangita.Kejriwal@WichitaKs.NCR.COM     ****************
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From: des@esl.com (Dorothy Shreve)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Breast feeding difficulties
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:44:12 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: ESL Inc., Sunnyvale CA


Hi.  I'm reading this group for the first time, and I'd like to ask
about this:

I have a 5.5-week old son who I would like to continue breast-feeding,
but he seems to be gradually weaning himself from the breast.  Usually
when I try to breast-feed him, he cries until I give him a bottle.  He
will sometimes breast-feed, but usually only when he's very sleepy,
eg. at night.  I think my mistake was giving him a bottle in the first
place.  I seem to have an ample supply of milk as I'm keeping it up by
pumping and giving it to him in a bottle, but I would really like him
to breast-feed.

Has anyone had this problem?  or can offer solutions?

Thanks -- Dorothy

PS.  If this is a FAQ, please direct me at the FAQ file.
From: dlin@weber.ucsd.edu (Diane Lin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Folic Acid prevents spinabifida!
Date: 15 Sep 1992 19:41:44 GMT
Organization: At home mother who is rarely at home
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu
Summary: newspaper article on announcement

From the 9/15/92 Los Angeles Times:

"All women of child-bearing age should take folic acid, a B vitamin,
to reduce the chances of having a baby with neural tube defects,
particulary spina bifida and anencephaly, federal health officials
recommended Monday.

The announcement is believed to be the first time the federal
governement has recommended the widespread use of vitamins other
than during pregnancy.

All female adolescents and women who could become pregnant should
consume 0.4 milligrams (sometimes also listed as 400 micrograms) of
folic acid daily, but should be careful to restrict their intake to
less than 1 milligram because an overdose could cause health
problems, said the federal Centers for Disease Control, which
initiated the proposal...

Good sources of folic acid in the diet include leafy, dark green
vegetables, citrus fruits and juices, yeast, bread and beans and
fortified breakfast cereals.  Folic acid supplements and daily
multivitamin preparations containing 0.4 milligrams of folic acid
also are widely available...

The average woman gets about 0.2 or 0.3 milligrams in a regular
diet, 'so if you add a supplement to that with 0.4 milligram, you're
still way under the concern level,' said William Grigg, a spokesman
for the Public Health Service...

The recommendation applies to all women--not just those trying to
become pregnant--because '50% of pregnancies are unplanned...'"

[quoted without permission]


-- 
Diane C. Lin			"Live now; make *now* always the
dlin@weber.ucsd.edu	         most precious time.  Now will 
(Dylan's mom, 21 months)	 never come again." (ST:TNG)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: akins@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (kay.a.akins)
Subject: Cub Scout skit needed
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:17:21 GMT
Keywords: HELP


Help - I'm a new den leader and I need to come up with a 
skit for the next Pack meeting.  Any den leaders out there
who could pass on a really silly skit on fire prevention?  I'm
desperate - no skits, how about a song?  
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jbrindle@halcyon.com (Jennifer Brindle)
Subject: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:45:21 GMT


Hi, I'm the one who started this thread.  I've discovered quite a few
Thomas-parents out there!  (We have an email list if you'd like to join,
email me.)

Mavis is not being manufactured at this time by ERTL.  That's the
quote I heard from them directly.

BTW, I understand there's a Thomas discussion on rec.model.railroad....

Jennifer
From: mh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mary Hart)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: ER room visit- funny
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:21:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wegzQTu00VB44D02QQ
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

The other night my 4 year old fell outside.   Hit his head on the
concrete.  He laid down on the couch and moaned that he felt sick and
dizzy.  When he continued to compain of nausea and dizziness, I grabbed
my other son and went to the emergency room.

Of course by the time we waited 45 minutes, he was feeling fine.   When
the nurse came in to see us, she amazed all of us by guessing each of
our middle names on the first try.   She also correctly guessed the
kids' father's middle name, though she messed up on his first name and
just got the first letter right.  (Weird- the middle names weren't
included in our insurance info or anything.)  

Next, some unidentified person in scrubs danced in with a two foot long
Q-tip with a face painted on it, and introduced the kids to her
"friend".   They were in stitches.

Then the doctor came in.  He examined my son, and then *gave* him his
doctor's flashlight (whatever you call it, that they use when looking at
your eyes and ears and so on.)    You can imagine how thrilled the
patient was!

Anyway, Paul was perfectly okay.  They just told me to check him every
two hours and there weren't any problems.   But the boys and I agreed
that the next time we had an emergency, we'd try to have it near Forbes
Metro Hospital.

Mary Hart
mh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 2YO wakes early for milk bottle
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:29:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

In article <17061@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie) writes:
>We now give Sean, our 2 year old (3 in Dec.), his milk bottle once a day, 
>when he wakes up in the morning. Lately he has been waking up at 5 AM 
>wanting it, and we, spineless parents that we are, have just been giving it
>to him. But it's wearing us down. So, should we (a) tough it out and let him
>cry for it (maybe visit him once or twice) and then give it to him at a more
>reasonable hour, say 6, (b) eliminate the morning milk bottle altogether 
>(he gets water in a bottle when he goes to bed), (c) insert suggestion 
>of your choice here.
>
>Constructive comments welcome.

My son (3 months younger then yours) recently went thru an annoying time of 
climbing into bed with us at earlier and earlier times. It would be fine
if he wanted to sleep, but he wanted to play. That gets old at 5am! I think
it was hard for him to understand when it is OK to come into bed, and when it
isnt. I finally told him that he couldnt come into bed with us until it was
light outside. We had a couple of days of taking him back to bed, until he
realized we meant it. Now he will come in about 6:15 with the proud 
annoucement that it was light outside, and then hop into bed. 

Maybe you can try using the same tactics with your son? it iwll work unti
summer ;-)

Laura Floom
From: rollo@xylogics.com (Dena Rollo)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Sex & Children
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:06:22 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Laura Taylor pointed out that part of my
reply to her post is potentially confusing.
I wrote, in part:

>> So I wouldn't make a big deal of either thing-the
>> play with her uncle, or the potential play with
>> her new sibling.


Just to clarify: that *doesn't* mean that I think
sex play between a 10 year old and an infant is
ok. What I meant is that I didn't think the fact
that a 10 year old engages in sexual play with
a peer means that she'd be interested in sexual
play with an infant, so I wouldn't worry about
it because I don't think it will happen.

OK?

-Dena
From: kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: differences between boys and girls
Keywords: Boys Girls
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 09:38:15 CDT
Organization: Vermi-net, Houston, Tx. 77098

> Sorry, Keith, this is admirable but with thinking like this, what you're
> sure to get is a little girl who wants _dresses_ and _Barbies_.
> (Take it from someone who's been there--my mother dispaired with me
> because I was such a tomboy; my daughter is the child my mother
> always wanted).
>
> Sue

This is not always guaranteed. My daughter and I are both tomboys, who
enjoy dressing up occasionally.


* * email address: nuchat!xcluud!glnserv!kati * Houston, Texas, USA, Earth * *
From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Cornmeal for baby powder???
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:57:03 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

> equacken@encore.com (Eric E. Quackenbush) writes:
>Talc based powders have been linked to respiratory problems in some babies.

Talc has also been linked to cervical cancer in women (from use as an
adult).  There has been no link (to date) that using talc when
diapering baby girls leads to cervical cancer as an adult, but I
wouldn't be willing to risk it.



--
--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu
From: jbrindle@halcyon.com (Jennifer Brindle)
Subject: Re: Pregnant and wedding rings too tight
Keywords: what did you do?
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:42:35 GMT

For my first pregnancy, I removed my wedding rings around the 7th month
because of water retention.  They fit about two-three weeks after delivery.
For the second, I had a different ring: my husband gave me a new ring for
our 15th anniversary and that one is slightly bigger in diameter.  This
time, I could wear it until the 9th month!  

I didn't care what people thought if I wasn't wearing a ring.  I figured
that anyone who didn't know that pregnant women sometimes retain water and
can't wear rings were too ignorant to deal with anyway.


Jennifer
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: donna@vogon.att.com (Donna J. Dixon)
Subject: Re: Caffeine during Pregnancy
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:13:10 GMT

From article <BuBJKr.1uH@acsu.buffalo.edu>, by oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown):
> In article <1992Sep8.172737.14557@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, hildin@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (kathleen.a.hildin) writes...
>> 
>>What I was wondering was how much caffeine would/would not
>>be considered safe during pregnancy?  I've consulted 
> 
> My doctor told me *no* caffeine, *no* alchohol (of course), and 
> to cut down on my sinus medication as much as possible - now I
> only take tavis D, one pill 3-4 times per week.
> 
  My doctor also told me no caffeine.  I never heard of being able to
  have 3 helpings of caffeine a day when pregnant.


-- 
--
Donna J. Dixon
Naperville, Illinois
{ ...!att!vogon!donna, donna@vogon.att.com }
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: 6310550@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: CROUP - best way to treat it ?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 20:53:42 GMT


I would appreciate any advice/wisdom on CROUP.  My 11 month old came
down with it on Friday.  I had a miserable weekend jumping up about
once an hour to check on her every time I heard that nasty "barking"
sound. (I think it bothers me more than it does Megan.)  I keep the
vaporizer on for naps & night time.  I've tried the steamy shower
followed by some cool outside air.  This is my first experience with
croup...  What's the most effective medication ?  Her doctor said
don't give her anything during the day.  About how long does it take
to clear up ?  When I dropped Megan off at daycare this morning, the
place sounded like a kennel with about 1/2 the kids coughing.:(

Thanks,
Deb