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From: sun-barr!west.West.Sun.COM!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!ttsi!agerhardt@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Alan Gerhardt)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Anyone Have Domain OS Crypt?
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:54:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc. Plano, Tx.
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

Does anyone have a version of the unix-style file encryption program  
"crypt" that will run under Domain OS 10.4?

I realize it probably can't be posted on the net because of the 
idiotic government regulations about exports, but I would appreciate
it if someone would email it to me directly.

For some reason HP provides the program with HP-UX, but not with 
Domain.

Thanks in Advance,
Alan
From: root@mip.lasc.lockheed.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: New Interworks SIG
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:50:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

ATTENTION:  ALL INTERWORKS MEMBERS......................

This is an open invitation to form a new Special Interest Group (SIG).


NAME:  Interoperability

PURPOSE:  To promote and report on system interoperability between 
          HP/Apollo workstations and other computing platforms.

TOPICS OF DISCUSSION: To be determined by our first meeting. 
		      (Interworks Conference - Phoenix, Arizona, April 26)

ACTING CO-CHAIRS: Charles Hebert	
		  charles_hebert@mip.lasc.lockheed.com	
		  Phone: 404-494-0496

		  Randy Hill		
		  randy_hill@mip.lasc.lockheed.com
		  Phone: 404-494-0629


Any interested people please respond to the acting Co-chairs via E-Mail 
by March 15,1993 with the following information:

Name
Company Name
Company Address
Phone Number
E-Mail Address
Topics of Discussion for first meeting
From: sun24!pvdmey@hgl.signaal.nl (P.v.d.Meij)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5 op Solaris 2.1
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:24:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:07:44 +0100
Message-Id: <9301250807.AA01859@sun24.signaal>

 

							Unclassified
I am trying to generate X11R5 on Solaris 2.1 using the gnu-C compiler.

Do I need any fixes, c.q. what changes in the config environment are
recommended.

Problems I have seen so far are:
	- no need for .sa libraries
	- lots of warnings from the gnu-C compiler
	- use of bsd socket library
	- use of bsd routines 'bcopy' end 'bzero' despite setting SVR4 parameter
	  in 'config' files
	- core-dump's

any suggestions are welcome.

			Paul van der Meij
			Hollandse Signaal apparaten B.V.
			P.O.Box 42
			Hengelo
			NL-7550GD  The Netherlands
From: jncoco@jumbo.Read.TASC.COM (Joe Coco)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Doug Young's C++ Class Defaults
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:38:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:46:18 EST
Message-Id: <9301212046.AA22507@jumbo.Read.TASC.COM>

Has anyone tried using the code in Doug Young's Motif/C++ book that merges
class defaults into the resource database?  I am referring to the function
setDefaultResources() on page 99 (in my version anyway).  Class resources is
a very useful concept, but I am having sporadic problems with it.  
Sometimes it works, other times it does not work at all, and still other
times the code dumps core trying to create widgets immediately after the call
to setDefaultResources().  Also, does anyone have Doug's email address?

Thanks,
Joe Coco

TASC
55 Walkers Brook Drive
Reading MA  01867

email : jncoco@tasc.com
From: adrian@ora.com (Adrian Nye)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Athena widget set
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:12:54 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:16:42 -0500
Message-Id: <199301211816.AA26186@ora.com>


> : ... and first of all, where are the aw widgets documented?
> 
> Actually, this is a good question. Of course there are the man pages,
> but is there a book in the O'Reilly vein about the Athena widgets?

There are man pages for the Athena widgets in the Standard edition of
Volume Four, Xt Intrinsics Programming Manual.
However, the R5 version is not quite out.  It will be in March.

As for a tutorial for how to use them, vol 4 covers some of the
widgets, but not all of them, and not to the depth of Vol 6.
The R5 version will have a little more coverage of some common
issues, such as how to make a Text widget operate as a TextField.
But as far as I know, there is no tutorial available that really
goes into detail about how to use each Athena widget effectively.
From: jacks@worms-emh2.army.mil (Mike Jackson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: SQL and X - How do I get started?
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:53:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9301260951.AA29919@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Date:     Tue, 26 Jan 93 9:47:13 GMT


I have an INFORMIX database and want to start writing 
simple X programs to extract data using SQL. 

Any advice on references, libraries, or sample programs? 


Thanks in Advance!

Mike Jackson
From: CCBR13@UCVAX.ULSTER.AC.UK (Gareth McAleese)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Text editor
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:53:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9301261625.AA02178@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Via: uk.ac.ulster.ucvax; Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:54:53 +0000
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:52 GMT


I am starting to develop software to run under OpenWindows and would like
to get my hands on a good text editor for programming, this must be fully
windowed and be easy to use.

Gareth McAleese
CCBR13@UK.AC.ULSTER.UCVAX

P.S.  Source code would also be a benefit
From: mark@bhanu.andyne.on.ca (Mark Levison)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Conferences
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:39:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:43:59 EST
Message-Id: <9301251543.AA18156@bhanu.andyne.on.ca>


In the next couple of days I have to choose between going to XWorld and
Xhibition.  I would like to hear about any comments people have about these
conferences.  Could you please email replies directly as I am unable to read
this group.

Cheers
Mark Levison
mark@bhanu.andyne.on.ca
From: Leif.Schumacher@sto.mchp.sni.de (Leif Schumacher)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Multiple-Click Multiple-Action
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:56:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9301210732.AA22078@athen.sto.mchp.sni.de>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:32:10  +0100

Chris Wood  (USA: wood.muc@sni-usa.com) asked me to send
the following query.
  #######  Multiple-Click Multiple-Action  #######

New to MOTIF and X-protocol, I see a general defect of
some GUIs. Our (SNI) experts say that the X-protocol
does not provide a solution. Can anybody help?

 If I click multiply on a "button", it is usually
actioned once for each click. This is not good.
Often the action produced by the first click changes
the window so that the second click becomes impossible,
or at least difficult to do. So it is silly to action
the second click just because it comes fast.
The user should be protected against shakey fingers,
(or perhaps he thinks double click is needed).

The widget can be programmed to avoid this, by ignoring
some clicks. But the "right" solution is surely to set
a window asynchronous in most cases.  The X-server would
not send to the widget, further interrupts generated
before the widget responds. Does a window need asynchronous
handling for type-ahead, when the keyboard is being used?

Chris Wood  (USA: wood.muc@sni-usa.com) (other: wood.muc@sni.de)
From: swalton@huey.csun.edu (stephen walton)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Setting up PC X servers?
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:32:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9301211750.AA16126@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 09:46:54 -0800

(I'm sending this to the xpert mailing list because we receive USENET
at our site, but posting is broken at present.)

I am in the process of configuring some systems as X terminals here
(PC-class machines and Sun-3 workstations running Seth Robertson's
Xkernel setup).  I'd like some help with this, as I'm just an
astronomer trying to get some work done, not a systems guru.

Basically, I'd like xdm (or chooser) on our file/compute server to put
up its window essentially automatically when the X servers are
started.  I see that on the Sun-3 "X terminals" I can do this with the
"-indirect" or "-query" switch on the server, but I assume I need an
entry in /etc/services to enable XDMCP.  What might this be?  How do
I specify the path to the xdm and chooser binaries?

The PC-class machines are harder.  The X server I use most, the
GfxBase one for the Amiga, doesn't have the -interactive switch.  Is
there some safe way to essentially do an "anonymous rsh" to start xdm
(or chooser) on the file server pointed at the X server on the Amiga
(and other PC-class machines to arrive soon)?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Stephen Walton, Cal State Northridge
"Talking about my generation/Hope we grow up before we get old"
			--Loudon Wainwright III
From: nosmo@ximage.com (Vince Kraemer)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Error handler flow control
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:46:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:54:22 PST
Message-Id: <9301260154.AA15744@ximage.com>
Reply-To: nosmo@ximage.com

I am writing a simple set of copy/paste routines for a form based
application.  I have gotten the "simple" error free case to work fine.
Now I want to deal with Alloc errors in XChangeProperty "correctly" by
using an incremental transfer scheme for large selections.

Since I cannot tell how big a property is "too big", it seems that the
only way to do this is to change strategies in an error handler.

(Is there a way to tell what "too big" is?  That could make this whole
question moot, which I wouldn't mind a bit.)

My problem is fairly simple, where does the error handler return to, if
I say return in it? Does it return to the place where I set it (similar
to longjmp), to the line after the request which generated the error, or
someplace else completely?

Thanks
vbk
From: gildea@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Stephen Gildea)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xterm termcap question
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:16:27 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9301260049.AA03510@alex.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:49:20 EST

[complaint that the xterm termcap does not have "cs" capability]

You don't say what system you are working on, but the X Consortium has
shipped an xterm termcap with "cs" since R3.  In other words, since 1988.

 < Stephen
   MIT X Consortium
From: libert@citi.umich.edu (Tom Libert)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Hourglass cursor?
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:39:53 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9301251845.AA21313@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:44:40 EST

I'd like to change the cursor to an hourglass when the display is
unavailable.  However, there is no hourglass icon in the standard X
cursor font.  Does anyone know where I can get a public-domain bitmap
in the shape of an hourglass?
From: devuns@alsys.fr (Olivier Devuns)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Modality, Motif & the Intrinsics
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:54:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:59:21 +0100
Message-Id: <9301261259.AA01789@venus.alsys_sa>

Hi xperts,

Thanks to jcb@hal.com (Joe Beall) who answered my previous modality
question. I think I finally found the answer in the Intrinsics. The
problem was to allow access to a permanent help in its own topLevelShell
while the rest of the application is blocked on a modal dialog, such as
a MOTIF MessageDialog instance.

The solution I found is to add the help window to the modal cascade
by just calling :
   XtAddGrab (HelpWidget, False, False);
in the modal dialog's help callback; this allows input to be sent to
the help window and to the modal dialog as well.

When the modal is dismissed, don't forget to remove the grab if it
has been added :
   if (grab_added)
      XtRemoveGrab (HelpWidget);

and you'll want to do that usually in the modal dialog's unmap callback.

Maybe that solution was known-to-everybody-for-years, but since nobody
but Joe answered, I guess broadcasting it again can be useful to others...

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From: gangrene!rread@seq.csuhayward.edu (robert m read)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: A prob with Trident 8900C
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:53:44 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: CyberTigger

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:16:06 -0800 (PST)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL3]
Content-Type: text
Content-Length: 456       
Message-Id:  <9301210116.aa00908@morbus.diogenes.UUCP>

I am having a problem with my trident 8900C card.
I've got SCO 3.2.4, and their release of X11R4.  
Does anyone know for sure whether or not these modes:
trident.tvga.svga.*-256				     
are broken?  --or is it just me?

I think I just need tvga.xgi file that works, anybody 
got one, or know where I can get it?

Thanks ahead of time...

-- 
 * rm read
 * Software Engineer, CyberTigger
 * rread%gangrene.uucp@mcs.csuhayward.edu
 * "Reality is relative."
From: gildea@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Stephen Gildea)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Why X libraries are not reentrant?
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:40:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

Message-Id: <9301260044.AA03477@alex.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:44:12 EST

Kaleb's summary is good, but I do want to add one small point.
Multi-threading allows you to handle re-entrancy, but it is not
the same thing.

With a threads environment which allows per-thread signal handling,
you can have a different thread from any threads already in Xlib
safely call Xlib from a signal handler.

 < Stephen
   MIT X Consortium
From: gildea@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Stephen Gildea)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: What happened to the X Color Management System?
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:45:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

Message-Id: <9301272331.AA06608@alex.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:31:45 EST

Xcms and its device-independent color support is part of X11R5.  It is
described in Chapter 6 of the book "X Window System," Third Edition,
by Scheifler and Gettys, pub by Digital Press, 1992.

Xcms is not a protocol extension; it is enhancements to Xlib.  It is
also not related to XIE, a proposed extension to do imaging that is
currently in public review.

 < Stephen
   MIT X Consortium
From: rvy1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Rao V Yelamarti)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Unsubscribe ..
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:01:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 14:48:02 CST
Message-Id: <9301232048.AA16017@Ra.MsState.Edu>


Please unsubscribe me,	rvy1@Ra.MsState.Edu
			-----------------------------

Thanks,

Rao Hanu Yelmarti
From: uhler@xsoft.xerox.com (Chris Uhler)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: A Multi-Threaded Xlib 1.1
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:55:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: XSoft/Xerox, Palo Alto, Calif.

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:42:48 -0500
Message-Id: <9301260042.AA24997@expo.lcs.mit.edu>

A multi-threaded version of Xlib (1.1) based on X11R5 patch 12 is now
available for anonymous FTP from:
        DEC on gatekeeper.dec.com (16.1.0.2) in /pub/X11/contrib/mt-xlib-1.1
        MIT on export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12) in /contrib/mt-xlib-1.1

This version, 1.1, contains many improvements over the 1.0 version,
including the fixes to several race conditions and deadlock bugs.  Also,
a few major performance improvements were put in this version.

The necessary files are:
   3 -rw-r--r--  1 ftp          3046 Jan 21 19:02 README
 112 -rw-r--r--  1 ftp        106235 Jan 21 19:02 mt-xlib-xhib92.ps.Z
1632 -rw-r--r--  1 ftp       1658123 Jan 21 19:03 mt-xlib.tar.Z

And they contain:
README                  - how to unpack and build the library
mt-xlib-xhib92.ps.Z     - the MT Xlib paper presented at Xhibition '92
mt-xlib.tar.Z           - the source code tree

Note:  Another paper was published at the USENIX Winter 1993 Technical
Conference.  It describes, in addition to the technical detail of
this library, the performance improvement and measurement that were
done since the 1.0 release.  The paper is copyrighted by the USENIX
and can be found under the title "Design and Implementation of a
Multi-Threaded Xlib" in the USENIX Winter 1993 Technical Conference
proceedings.

Currently the library supports Pthreads on OSF/1 from DEC and PCR on SunOS.

A mailing list is set up for discussion and development of this
implementation of multi-threaded Xlib:
        mt-xlib@xsoft.xerox.com

Send your add/remove request to/from the mailing list to:
        mt-xlib-request@xsoft.xerox.com

Please e-mail any feedback (good or bad) to:
        mt-xlib-comment@xsoft.xerox.com
From: amir@matis.ingr.com (Amir J Katz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: SUMMARY: mwm 1.2 and sticky pop-ups
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:18:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: This Mortal Coil & Spring Factory

Message-Id: <9301210816.AA26256@simpson.ingr.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:16:16 EET
Reply-To: amir@matis.ingr.com
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I have recently posted the following:

Amir> Xperts,
Amir> We have recently received Motif 1.2 (from ICS). I've noticed that the
Amir> long-promised sticky menus do work. However, the documentation for mwm that
Amir> comes with the release does not hint that it is even possible to make mwm's
Amir> popup menus stick around.
Amir> 
Amir> Anyone?

The only net response came from Skip Montanaro (montnaro@ausable.crd.ge.com) 
which thought it was doable. Alas, his suggestion did not work. So I called ICS
Tech Support and here's their official response:

ICS> After speaking with OSF, tear-off menu functionality  is unavailable
ICS> for pop-up menus (defined in your app) or for the root menus (defined in
ICS> .mwmrc or system.mwmrc ). This functionality is planned for the next
ICS> major release of Motif which doesn't have a date or release number yet.
ICS> However both ICS and OSF appreciate this question as we feel it is excellent
ICS> as well as interesting.

-- 
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From: vamsee@abgen.tamu.edu (Vamsee Lakamsani)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: =======  The Free Widget Foundation(FWF) ======
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:30:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Center for Macromolecular Design, Texas A&M University.

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 11:00:13 -0500
Message-Id: <9301221600.AA24847@expo.lcs.mit.edu>


WHAT IS FWF?
~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Free Widget Foundation (FWF) commenced in the summer of 1990.  We
began as an ad hoc, volunteer effort, to generate a publically
accessible repository for X graphical user-interface modules
(widgets).  Over time, many people have contributed widgets of varying
degrees of complexity, and having application across a wide range of
program domains.  

The 'Free Widget Foundation' is an obvious play on the 'Free Software
Foundation', but we are not related to that organization in any way,
apart from sharing the goal of having high-quality software available
to the public at no cost.  

JOINING FWF
~~~~~~~~~~~
The success of this project depends solely on the work of the FWF volunteers.  
Help us to develop the best, least expensive widget set for the X community!
Joining the FWF is simple. Just send mail to,

free-widgets-request@kazoo.cs.uiuc.edu

WHAT WIDGETS ARE AVAILABLE?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FileSelector,Histogram, ImageSelector, MultiList, PixelEditor, Rheostat, 
ScrolledList, Slider are some of the widgets available in our growing
collection.

HOW TO GET OUR WIDGETS?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The latest version (3.4) of the FWF widget library can be obtained via 
anonymous ftp from, 

a.cs.uiuc.edu(128.174.252.1):pub/fwf.shar.Z 
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/X11/contrib/lib/fwf/fwf.tar.Z
(131.159.0.110)

You can also send E-mail to,

ftp-mailer@ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de 

with the command, 'GET /pub/comp/X11/contrib/lib/fwf/fwf.tar.Z' in the body of 
the message. FWF widgets are also available on the ICS "Widget Databook" CD ROM.

CURRENT WORK
~~~~~~~~~~~~
We are  trying to construct a much-improved, much-extended version (4.0) of the
free widget set. This version is tentatively scheduled for relase by the end of April,1993. You know where to find it then!!

If you like the Free Widgets concept, please tell other people about it. 
We can't save people any effort if they don't know about us!  


----
Volunteers of the Free Widget Foundation
From: srinivas@camelot.mcs.utulsa.edu (Palepu Srinivas)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Subcription to e-mail newsletter about X
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:20:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:41:29 -0600
Message-Id: <199301210441.AA06760@camelot.mcs.utulsa.edu>


Please send me the above newsletter.
My e-mail address is  :

srinivas@euler.mcs.utulsa.edu

Thanks
srinivas
From: devuns@alsys.fr (Olivier Devuns)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: patch program wanted
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:58:19 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 11:21:14 +0100
Message-Id: <9301221021.AA06675@venus.alsys_sa>

Hi xperts,
being in the situation where I have to apply a lot of patches, I realize
that the "patch" utility is not distributed on my machine. Could someone
tell me a ftp site and directory where one can find it ? Direct Email
answers please, I'm no more on xpert.

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ALSYS          -- 29 Ave. LR Duchesne, 78170 La Celle St Cloud - FRANCE

Email          : devuns@alsys.fr       Voice          : (1)30781727

                     "Views expressed are my own."
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