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From: copus@pa621a.inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: more beginner problems HELP
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:01:00 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
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In article <6916@motcsd.csd.mot.com>, rds@motcsd.csd.mot.com (Richard Schaal) writes:
> 
> First, I should describe my installation.  I have a 1200 gallon in-ground pond.
> It is approx 10' long and about 5' wide - water depth is 3'.  There is a
> "filter" associated with it - it is about 3' cubed, with approximately two feet
> of it filled with 3/4" lava rock.  The pump is rated at about 600 GPH.  The
> water flows from the pump into the bottom of the filter, out a waterfall, and
> back to the pond.  The pump intake is close to the bottom of the pond at the
> far end away from the waterfall.  The pond receives full sun from 10AM until
> sunset.
> 
 
I don't have any experience with in-ground ponds but the problem with water
clarity that you describes sounds very familiar to a problem that I 
experienced with my swimming pool a few years ago.  I just could not get the
water to clear up despite adding all of the chemicals that the pool store
people recommended.  As it turned out I had a problem with my filter.  The
filter was one of the old sand type filters.  Dirty water from the pool
was transported through the filter and the filter media (sand) by a 
plastic pipe to the bottom of the filter were it was discharged to flow
upward through the filter media (thus cleaning the water) and back into the
pool.  What I discovered was that the plastic pipe had a hairline crack in
it that apparently opened up very large under pressure and thereby
allowed the dirty water to be discharged on top of the filter media in the
filter tank, by-passing the filter media altogether.

Perhaps you have a similar problem with you filter.  Hope this helps.
Good luck.

Len 


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From: ahughes@arch386.hyperdesk.com (Arch Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Glass Top Option
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:03:58 GMT
Reply-To: arch@hyperdesk.com
Organization: HyperDesk Corporation

Here's an idea I had this morning I thought I'd seek opinion on.  I
was preparing a template to take to the glass company so I could have
a glass top made for my 35 gallon hex.

Because of the set of hardware that I have, the placement of the tank
(which is not in my control), and the shape of the tank, I have a very
limited amount of "edge space" available for additional hardware.   If
I go to a custom glass top, I'll be able to get some light into the
tank (finally!), but if I need to add a new piece of equipment (or go
to something larger) I'll run into a problem with getting it into the
tank and through the top.

With the plastic top that I have, this is less of a problem.  I can
always get the coping saw out and cut whatever size opening I need.

Idea!  How about cutting out a larger square of the plastic top and
putting a regular piece of 1/4" glass from the hardware store over the
new hole?  Then I can set my new light(s) on the glass.  I can stick
the glass the the plastic top with some silicone (aquarium safe, of
course). 

What do I loose with this option?  I'll have less total top glass
space, and the top will be "mixed composition" (an aesthetic issue).
In fact the hinged area in the front is pretty large, and I'd have no
choice but to leave it and the attachment area in tact.

What do I gain?  Flexibility for the hardware issue noted above.  A
nearly water tight top that I can set lights on with little concern
about salt or water penetration.  A cheaper solution.  A DIY
satisfaction!

Comments?

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From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:50:51 GMT
Subject: Re: North American Crayfish - Info please
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria


From: lee@ace.syr.edu (Lee C Brink)
Date-Received: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:51:21 GMT
Subject: North American Crayfish - Info please
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria

*  I'd like some information on the standard crayfish.

Me too.

*	1) Very territorial - I've had several killed this way

Yep.  One per tank.

*	3) Coldwater - And with that, messy.

I don't have a heater, but in the summer it can get "warm" (I don't have 
a thermometer either).  It has slowed down considerably since I got it
last spring.  I don't know if it due to the temperature or some other
prolblem. 

Does anyone know if they are sensitive to salt in the water?  I use 
1/4 teaspoon per gallon in my other tanks, but I know that some 
invertibras (like snails, but they aren't very similar) don't like
salt.  I have been using no salt in this tank.

I went to the local library, but they had nothing on Crayfish.
The local fish stores don't seem to know anything either.

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From: grendal@iat.holonet.net (Grendal)
Subject: [M] Nocturnal spawner (egg sac found)
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:33:00 GMT

I'm a bit stumped by this.
Something has been spawning in my tank. One night two
weeks ago and last night, something created a large
(about 3 cm diameter) gelatinous egg sac full of little
white eggs. The sac was attached to a rock that gets
a fair amount of light and good water turbulance.

I don't have snails (at least none that
I've seen) in my tank. I do have:

2 strawberry crabs
2 frogspawn coral  (Euphyllia divisa)
2 Elegence coral (Euphyllia picteti)
1 Caribbean anenome (Condylactis gigantea)
1 Sebae anenome (heck if I know)
1 Carpet anenome
1 Bubble coral
1 Giant Clam (Tridacna maxima)
  Some mushroom coral
  Major feather duster infestation
  
1 tang
1 clownfish
1 blenny

All of these, except for the blenny, have been
with me for the past two years. This is the first
"spawn" I've seen. Anyone have any ideas ?
From: gt6441c@prism.gatech.EDU (Jon Edwards )
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Additive Shelf Lives (was: Thiel's KSM)
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:48:39 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  Does anyone know the shelf life of any additives used in the aquarium?
I've got "reef" type additives (Iodine, Molyb/Stront, Macro Algae...) that
have been sitting around for over 8 months....

Jon

Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: brian@picasso.icd.teradyne.com (Brian Hunter)
Subject: Re: External Pump Transfers TOO much heat. (M)
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:29:18 GMT

In article <2800188@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> booth@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (George Booth) writes:
>In rec.aquaria, brian@picasso.icd.teradyne.com (Brian Hunter) writes:
>
>    Recently I changed from an 802 power head to a quiet one pump.
>    I immediately found my tank temp to be much higher.
>
>    I am now considering buying another pump which I hope will
>    avoid this problem.  I am considering either an IWAKI or
>
>Brian,
>
>When you change, please note the noise difference between the Quiet
>One and whatever you buy.  I think more people would be interested
>in the quietest pump and are not concerned about heat. 
>
>------
>George
>
I bought an IWAKI (30rlxt) which I have just installed so it's too early
to comment on heat yet.  

The IWAKI does move more water that the quietone but not a lot more
I will meaasure this when I get time. 

On this issue of noise however both the quiet one and the IWAKI 
have no chance of being heard over the rest of the noise.

For those who are thinking of adding a sump or TF/sump which
I think is a good idea be warned that the prefilter gurgling
and the sump bubbleing are loud even with noise mitigation.

My pump and such are in a cabinet under the tank which has doors
on the front, this helps a lot.  I also made a lid for the prefilter
which also helped a lot.  I rank noise sources from worst to least
as:
. 2 cooling fans in hood (only on when lights are on) but this is
  about 12 hours per day.
. Prefilter noise.
. cooling fan in cabinet so the balasts don't fry.  I reduced this by
  using a 6 inch fan and running it on 100v using a transformer.
. sump noise.
. tetra luft g air pump on most of the way.
. ball rattling in check valve.
. water pump.
. ehiem canister filter.

Basiclly if I put my ear next to it I can hear the pump.  I did recieve
one response the this was not true of the old little giant, the new
series are supposed to be better but they have no track record yet.

I will post something on the heat issue after I have time to evalute
the two pumps.

Brian



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From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: What kind of cichlid is this?
Keywords: cichlids
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:12:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.aquaria
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Hi all, 
	go a question for you cichlidiots...

	I just setup a 10 gal with two cichlids (African, sp acii) and I
am unsure whether or not they are actually called acii or what.  They are
both the same coloring (therefore I might have just two females - two males
won't tolerate each other will they? - BTW - they are young, so the gender
is indistiguishable as of yet.) i.e. yellow fins all around - dorsal, tail, 
caudal etc.  Body is kinda grey (chages according to what angle light comes
in at) to kinda tan.  It has fluorescent/iridescent blue spots all over
the body which also are visible only at some angles of light.

So, here's what I need help with.  In addition to the cichlids, I put a 
kuhli loach in and immediately it buried itself in the gravel and disappeared
to parts unknown.  Oh well, it's done that for the past year in another tank - 
maybe I'll see it again sometime ;).  Should I get some dithers to get my
cichlids  to spawn?  Oh, wait, I don't know if they are sexually able to -
being both female? :)  So, how old should they be to be able to tell the sex,
and how can I go about doing it.  What are obvious signs of males/females?
Right now they play and follow each other everywhere around the tank.  I
put in a large group of big barnacles which they hide in occasionally.  There
is also some elodea, java moss and a banana plant which came from my 20 gal.
which are doing ok.  The filter is old (hasn't had a new sponge in many months
and came froma a friends' tank.) so is ok.

Thanks.

-andy
	
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From: tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Fish people
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:25:26 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Labratory, Washington, DC

In article <1992Aug12.212520.17324@javelin.sim.es.com= krogers@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
=tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse) writes:
=
=>>As a reef keeper, I have a different definition for those who keep
=>>marines: people with too much spare money and time plus no sense.  Oh,
=>>and we read too much as well.  In short, we need a life!
=>>Of course the above applies to "Dupla" tank types as well, eh?  (you
=>>know who you are)
=>
=>	Well, I was torn between a reef and a Dupla tank.  The reef won
=>because I think it is prettier.  They both require a great deal of
=>learning, which is why I enjoy it so much, it's the joy of learning
=>something completely new, I never had a salt tank before my reef.
=
=Ooooh, oooooh, Dem's fightin' words in some parts.  I think I'll stand
=back for a bit - I can see George reaching for the flame thrower
=now...  ;^)
=
=>>I won't even mention discus keepers.
=>
=>	What do you mean?  Discus are easy.
=
=Ooooh, oooooh more fightin' words!  Besides, easy or hard, purrrrty or
=uuuuuugly, big or small, has nothing to do with the various forms of
=fish keeping insanity.  It's just what floats your boat as near as I
=can tell.

Luckly, I'll be out of the country for 2 months, so go ahead, make my
day, send on flame, I won't see any of it.  :)

-Anthony
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From: PLai@cup.portal.com (Patrick L Faith)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Summertime overheating
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:31:12 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Well its getting perty hot around hera (California) and I decided
to save some money by running my lights at night (when it is cooler),
so my cooler won't have to run all day long.  For people without
coolers that are having overheating problems, running the lights
at night instead of thru the day should drop the temperature atleast
a few degrees. (not sure what this would do to you reef spawners).

PLai
From: booth@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (George Booth)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:39:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Tanks and Filters
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria

In rec.aquaria, craigm@chateau-rouge.ics.uci.edu (Craig MacFarlane) writes:

    Could somebody please advise what the best filter media is to put inside
    the cannister filters like Fluval?  I am trying to develop a plant aquarium
    and have read that an UGF is destrimental because they upset the roots.
    Therefore all of my biological filtration must be handled by the cannister
    filter.

Don't believe every aquarium myth you read.

------
George
From: gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Coral safe for Freshwater tanks?
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:22:48 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Aug18.002836.14328@socrates.umd.edu> nick@socrates.umd.edu (Nick Lemberos) writes:
>Is it safe to add coral to a freshwater tank...assuming that i wash
>things out very good?
Generally it is not a really good idea to add coral to a FW tank.  The coral
will drive the PH and hardness up, and most fish do not like it.  If you 
happen to be keeping some of those FW fish that need hard, alkaline water, 
you could be OK.
					-- GDD

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From: tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Fish people
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:28:19 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Labratory, Washington, DC

In article <1992Aug13.051242.16749@Veritas.COM> oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
>tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse) writes:
>>	What do you mean?  Discus are easy.
>
>Yes, they are easy.  But have you ever seen a serious discus breeding set up?
>It makes the killifishers' fish farms look tame.

	No, but one of these days, I am going to go up to Gywen Brook Farm
in Baltimore and take a look for myself :)

-Anthony
From: watts@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (Christopher Watts)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Black Ghost
Keywords: black ghost
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:52:13 GMT
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science


I just became the owner of a 6" black ghost and I was wondering what is a 
good food to feed this thing.  I was told that it really likes guppies but
I can't feed it guppies everyday.  Any suggestions?

						Chris Watts
From: gt6441c@prism.gatech.EDU (Jon Edwards )
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: [M][R] Small Reef Tanks: SUMMARY
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:19:29 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  I have recieved all of the responses to my original post that I think
I will get.  I have compiled all of them into one file, but I feel it is
too large to post to the newsgroup.  If anyone wants a copy, please send
me email, and I will reply as soon as possible.  

(My original post asked for experiences with small (less than 20g) 
 reef tanks)

Jon

Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and clueless old white boy)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Aquarium Backings
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:05:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23459
Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, curmudgeon and clueless old white boy)
Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals

In article <1992Aug13.204815.14200@watson.ibm.com> @watson.ibm.com writes:
>Has anyone come up with ideas for home-made backings that look nice?

Rustoleum dark blue, and Rustoleum black.
Seriously.

But don't get it INTO the tank.  Lead is nasty stuff.
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From: whaley@jazz.concert.net (Jonathan Whaley)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: top quality discus?
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:22:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Center for Communications, MCNC; RTP, NC


Posted for Mark Hortman (hort@ems.cdc.com) 

I am planning on setting up a 90 gallon planted discus tank.  
I will be using two 4 foot tritons for light, and a wet/dry filter.

  One of the books I have says that one way to start your tank is to plant
your plants in your new tank and finish filling the tank with water.
Leave them for a few days, put about 40 other fish in and
then wait a month to add your discus.  It says about 120 plants for a
75 gal. tank, so I am going with about the same configuration for my 90.

My question is what should I do to get top quality discus?  I
have seen several ads for mail order discus.  Should I choose one that
is close and advertises Watley or Shmitt-Focke discus and just mail order 
them, or should I get them from a local dealer where I can look at
them and make sure they look healthy? 

I want to get 6-8 discus in the tank, all the same variety, should I
get them all at once or in groups of two or what? 

Thanks for any and all advice.
Mark Hortman

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From: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com (K. Rogers)
Subject: Re: Fish people
Reply-To: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:25:20 GMT

tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse) writes:

>>As a reef keeper, I have a different definition for those who keep
>>marines: people with too much spare money and time plus no sense.  Oh,
>>and we read too much as well.  In short, we need a life!
>>Of course the above applies to "Dupla" tank types as well, eh?  (you
>>know who you are)
>
>	Well, I was torn between a reef and a Dupla tank.  The reef won
>because I think it is prettier.  They both require a great deal of
>learning, which is why I enjoy it so much, it's the joy of learning
>something completely new, I never had a salt tank before my reef.

Ooooh, oooooh, Dem's fightin' words in some parts.  I think I'll stand
back for a bit - I can see George reaching for the flame thrower
now...  ;^)

>>I won't even mention discus keepers.
>
>	What do you mean?  Discus are easy.

Ooooh, oooooh more fightin' words!  Besides, easy or hard, purrrrty or
uuuuuugly, big or small, has nothing to do with the various forms of
fish keeping insanity.  It's just what floats your boat as near as I
can tell.

Now, back to my regularly scheduled microcoding...
-- 
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krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
From: frazier@maxwell (Greg Frazier)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Fluval Filters
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:11:37 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

sf@saviour.UUCP (Sam howard) writes:
: Hi.
:  
: I currently have a 75 gal. with a couple of Oscars and 1/2 dozen
: Tin Foil barbs, and ...well...they're kinda messy eatters...  ;)
: 
: right now, I am running two Wisper 3 power filters, but those darn
: fish are going to run me broke just changing the filter pads!!!

I hope you rinse and re-use those filter pads.  A single pad
should last you at least 3 mo's!
 
: So, I am contemplating a canister filter -- the Fluval 303 (about
: $60US mail order)...any comments about said filter?  is it too big?
: is it too small

Why are you going with a cannister filter?  I think you will have
to clean it out just as often as you do the Whisper, and it is
much more painful to deal with.  I would only recommend the
cannister filter if your Whisper 3 is not keeping up with
ammonia/nitrite production (the cannister's big advantage is
the large bio-filter).

Note that I have a strong anti-cannister prejudice - I found them
to be too much work.

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From: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Black Ghost
Keywords: black ghost
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:09:52 GMT
Reply-To: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

I have trained my black ghost to eat duro-min from my hand at the surface.
But, it really likes dried or frozen blood worms!
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From: mstephens.520@postman.gsfc.nasa.gov (mark stephens)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: POWER FILTERS
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:32:36 GMT
Organization: nasa/gsfc

After suffering thru maintaining the old dynaflow filters, the one
with a 'real' moter at the base, I thought that the Whisper filters
were the best thing since sliced bread.  They were self starting!!!
Wow, what a concept.  They also are fairly whimpy filtration wise
and the water fall effect can be a nuisence.  Then I got an Ehiem canister
and have never look at another Whisper/aquaclear again.  The canister
allowed me to keep a tank in the living room (and my sig other!).

One problem with the Aquaclear is the sponge, when it gets cloged, tends to 
float up and have caused water to get out of the filter.  

         mark

In article <1992Aug19.202218.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>, ig30@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
> 
> I am considering purchasing several power filters and would like to hear your
> opinions and experiences with WHISPER power filters and AQUA CLEAR power
> filters. I am particularly interested about reliabily, ease of use and
> maintainance, regarding these brands. I am also interested in other brands you
> feel are superior to the above mentioned.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 
> Ruvan
> 
> IG30@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
> 
> 
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