HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ag885@yfn.ysu.edu (Charles Gibbs)
Subject: The Bowl Picture??
Reply-To: ag885@yfn.ysu.edu (Charles Gibbs)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:05:01 GMT


Can anyone provide a semi-clear picture of who's going to what bowls,
or at least who has been offered to go to a bowl.?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kollur@jec330.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri)
Subject: Question: Alabama-Kentucky 1988
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:00:30 GMT

 I have a question for anyone who remembers the '88 Alabama-Kentucky game
In that game Alabama was down by a whole bunch of points with about
10 minutes to go in the game. Alabama then scored 28 (?) points in the
last 10 minutes to win the game. My question is about the fake field goal
that won the game for Bama. Who was the ball holder who threw (or ran)
for a touchdown on the fake field goal attempt. I remember at that time he
was the most talked about person in Tuscaloosa atleast for the week
following the game. I think he was recruited as a QB but did not quite live
up to earlier expectations and it was his last season at Bama. It was a
great story at that time and I cannot recall his name. Anyone out there
know who I am talking about? Guy? Jim? Jeff?......
Ramana
Roll Tide!
From: tunal@mizar.usc.edu (Tamer Unal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FIRE COOPER!
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:36:56 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Keywords: like, right now!

mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:

>tOSU should can John Cooper!  What a sorry excuse 
>of a coach.  He is leading tOSU into mediocrity
>fast!

>My gawd, he's only won *8* games this year!  Only eight!

>What a loser.

Yeah, fire him and hire Earl Bruce who was just fired in
Colorado State for 'begin abusive' with his players
and risking lawsuits against CSU.

>BTW, do you think Cooper would like it in Blacksburg, VA?

Even Columbus is better than Blacksburg!

>Michael Nelson

-- 
Serdar Boztas
posting from someone else's account with their permission
normally at serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au
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From: th9708@meibm8.cen.uiuc.edu (Todd Lee Henderson)
Subject: Re: TEXAS aTm - got screwed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:59:13 GMT

jeffq@bang.sps.mot.com (Jeff Quinn) writes:

>In article <1992Nov19.152500.26712@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>>K. S. Manu (manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
>>: You talked about FSU squeaking by.. How about A&M. They seueaked
>>: by a Texas Tech by 1 point, the same team which was beaten by
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^             
>>: 35 pts by a not-so-hot OU. They squeaked past a not-so-hot
>>: stanford by 3 points. They defeated Baylor by 3-points at
>>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>: home, the same baylor which lost by 20 pts to Colorado.
>>: Then recently, they defeated a Houston team by 4 pts which
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>: was beaten 63-3 by Michigan! Yes, A&M is sure playing like
>>: a champion.
>>-- 
>>Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
>>scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
>>(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081

>FYI: Texas A&M 19 Texas Tech 17
>     Texas A&M 19 Baylor 13
>     Texas A&M 38 Houston 30

>Check your math Scott!

You should watch who posted what a little bitter I think.  Of course
I could have who said what screwed up, but I don't think so, unless of
course there were 2 Scott's?

Todd
From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Oldest Rivalry in the South (was Re: Georgia 14, Auburn 10)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:50:18 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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Keywords: tiguzz
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In article <1992Nov18.180501.19133@nntpserver.chevron.com> hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>(Scott Barman) writes:
>>>Georgia 14
>>>Auburn 10
>>
>>How Bout Them Dawgs.
>>
>>BTW: This was the 100th Anniversary of the first meeting between the two
>>schools.  At 100 years, this is the oldest rivalry in the South.
>

In terms of games, the Virginia-North Carolina rivalry is older - 97
meetings, I believe. Also, William and Mary-Richmond is billed as
the "oldest rivalry in the south" with the series record standing 
at 49-47-5 in Richmond's favor. (This Saturday will be the 102nd
meeting). 

-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Nebraska Wheel Cover wanted
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:59:02 GMT
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)

--
>Does anyone know where I can get wheel cover for a Jeep
>that says "Nebraska Cornhuskers" on it?

>Thanks for any help, in advance.

Try a retail store in Omaha, NE called "Husker Heaven" - (402)572-8013

It's a store for people without a life- LIKE ME!   ;^)

Husker Henderson

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 M_Henderson               | "Could you please continue the petty bickering?
 Marty Henderson           |  I find it most intriguing."   ---    Data, 
 Woodland Park, Colorado   |  Star Trek, The Next Generation, "Haven"
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Koontz Computer Prediction Answers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Hey Tanner!
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Nov 1992 09:25 EST  

In article <1280@fozzy.UUCP>, ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com writes...
>I have been flooded with questions regarding the origin of my algorithm
>and the output of "questionable" results.
> 
>Let me say that my algorithm considers things beyond strength of schedule
>and margin of victory.  I ran regressions on past data with dummy variables
>such as whether or not it is homecoming, whether or not the team won or
>lost last week, color of uniforms, etc.
> 
>I feel you can not ignore variables such as jersey color and homecoming
>in the college football environment.
> 

Ya gotta love this.  Does USA Today know about this guy?

Carl, do you consider game location (especially for psuedo-neutral sites), 
time of day, time of year, forecasted weather, place in the schedule (e.g. 
is Miami looking past creampuff Arizona?), injuries, and whether it's on TV 
or not?  What about off-field distractions (arrests and such)?

These factors cannot be ignored either (though I understand jersey color 
and TV are usually related).

R Dendy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford 40, WSU 3
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:16:47 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <aelman.721875721@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>
>>In article <aelman.721810498@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>>Yes, during the first half WSU moved the ball OK.  And the defense
>>was doing a pretty good job.  It didn't help that WSU gave away
>>two touchdowns---Bledsoe's fumble on the 4.  And did you see that
>>amazing pass?  Bledsoe was being sacked, and he heave the ball
>>about 50 yards.  It went right to CJ Davis, who is a great receiver
>>and was 10+ yards past his coverage, but CJ let it go through his
>>hands.  
>
>I did see that -- it was the specific incident I had in mind when I
>made the comment that Bledsoe is a great quarterback, but doesn't have
>the receivers to match...:-)

Actually, WSU has some pretty good receivers, though CJ made one of
the biggest boners of his life there.  Some pre-season rags rated
their receiver corps in the top 10 nationally, and they do have
good talent.  And most pre-season rags I saw rated Clarence Williams
as the #1 tight end (he has been slow to come off a spring injury,
though, and his backup Carolen has done quite well).

So the receivers have been doing pretty well; it is hard for me to
know, though, if the front line gave protection better how much greater
or more spectacular they'd be doing.  Certainly Bledsoe has had a
few inconsistent days as have the receivers, though. 
--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4098      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
From: lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten Should Withdraw was (Penn State Should Withdraw
Date: 21 Nov 1992 06:27:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


While the football programs in the Big Ten have dwindled, the
basketball programs have swelled to make it the toughest conference
in the nation (see 50% of final four).
That's beside the point.  The Big Ten was the original, and still the
best.  Look at the Ohio State-Michigan game.  When one game commands
more attention from a team than the rest of the season, you have to
look at tradition - something embedded in the Big Ten, and teams such
as Penn State and Notre Dame.  Florida et al have nothing on them - they
get away with whatever they want, but nothing that they do can change
the things that the teams of the Big Ten have done for football.
Sure they have perennial losers, but they also have perennial contenders.
The thing is today, if you can play football inside or in the sun, why
not get the most out of your abilities.  Uh-uh.  Football was MEANT
to be polayed in the snow and rain of the northeast. Too bad, I usually
like "progress".
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I-AA Playoff Picture
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:14:54 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Nov17.050642.28148@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>PDunn's picks:
>
>NE Louisiana        Idaho               Eastern Kentucky  Eastern Washington
>The Citadel         Western Carolina    Samford           Western Illinois
>Delaware            Richmond            Youngstown St.    Massachusetts
>Marshall            Middle Tennessee    McNeese St.       Villanova
>
Well, I'll disagree.  Northern Iowa should get in ahead of W.Ill
(especially since either SWMoSt or N.Iowa will win the conference),
McNeeseSt, Richmond, Villanova, and/or E.Wash.  
--
Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Things to be THANKFUL for
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:08:13 GMT

In article <By6rz4.8r9@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.142708.13010@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>>
>>Well, Its been a long hard disappointing season for the Wahoos. From #10 to
>>not even going to a bowl game.
>
>	Why?  If these ridiculous Big Ten teams were considered for
>	bowls at 6-5 (or 6-4-1), why isn't 7-4 Virginia?
>

Big ten media bias, obviously.

:-)

actually, to be honest, I dont think UVA deserves a bowl bid. 7-4 doesnt
sound that bad till you consider they were 5-0 and up by 28 before
skidding to 6-4. I mean, (god, this sounds ridiculous) the only good
team the hoos beat was WAKE FOREST.
From: mrm70@diag.amdahl.com (Mike McAllister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Buff Bits
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:26:37 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <92318.124623C31801AG@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, C31801AG@WUVMD (Bapi Gupta) writes:
|>... 
|> I vowed not to enter this stupid flame war and lower myself to the Njan
|> like levels of most of your fellow Buff supporters, but this has just
|> pissed me off.  When we got pounded by Washington and Miami last year
|> we admitted they were better and complimented the achievements of their
|> programs.  You were better than us two years ago, about even with us
|> last year, but please admit this year, we are a level above you.

I, and many other Buff fans, *DO* admit that! I mean, it's pretty 
freaking obvious when NU pounds CU by as much as they did, that
one team is better than the other.

But let people discuss what their team did wrong or right,
without jumping down their throat. I think this thread has
made some people a little trigger-happy, and mis-interpreting
some posts (just the way I see it).

|> Bapi

Mike 'the peace-and-love guy' McAllister
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From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Illinois 22  Michigan 22 (sigh)
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:18:15 GMT


In article <1992Nov14.155810.5601@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!decwrl!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!hyperion!desire.wright.edu!demon
|> From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|> Subject: Illinois 22  Michigan 22 (sigh)
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov14.155810.5601@desire.wright.edu>
|> Date: 14 Nov 92 15:58:10 EST
|> References: <1992Nov14.155658.5600@desire.wright.edu>
|> Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.
|> Lines: 10
|> 
|>  	A few less seconds on the clock....
|>  
|>  	OSU needs to play sharp against IU.  They've been up for the game the
|>  past five years while OSU has attempted to look past them every time.
|>  
|> Brett
|> ===============================================================================
|> 80s: 18 million new jobs, deficits down (%GNP), tax rates down, tax revenues up
|> GNP up, inflation down, unemployment down, interest rates down, cold war won
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Although I would have preferred to beat Michigan, it is payback to the Bucks
for not coming through for 89 and 90.  Especially in 90, when a TIE was needed
to send Illinois to Pasadena, and the Wolves untied the game with 2 seconds left,
after the worst 4th donw play call in history by John Cooper.

Murph
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (William P. Jones)
Subject: Michigan - National Championship - Not with Moeller
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Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:23:32 GMT

As a UM alumnus, I was very disheartened to hear Gary Moeller say that 
guaranteeing a spot in the Rose Bowl was more important than having a chance to 
win the National Championship. With an attitude like that he'll never win one. 
How is he going to sell recruits on coming to Michigan with a goal of going to 
the Rose Bowl when other coaches are talking about winning the National 
Championship. This was the second tie he was happy to take this year. Lest we 
forget he was running down the sidelines waving his arms at the officials to 
start the clock after the penalty against ND rather than using his timeouts to 
try and stop ND deep in their territory and try to win on a field goal. Worst 
of all, had they tried to win Saturday and come up short, the Rose Bowl was 
still available to them. Or doesn't he think that Michigan can beat OSU?

Hail to those who tie. Gary you're going to make people forget about Pat Dye.
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:46:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov20.043716.29445@guinness.idbsu.edu> betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz) writes:
>In article <26805@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>>Wazzu beat Arizona, which if course almost beat Miami and did beat
>>the UW.  It has also beaten UCLA, Fresno State, and Arizona State.
>>It lost a close game to USC (lost in the last few minutes),
>>and not so close to Oregon and Stanford.
>
>Time for a fallacy check.  The bowl people do *not* sit down and
>say to themselves, "Gee, I wonder what two of the most-deserving
>teams we can round up for our bowl this year?"  Its more like,
>"Gee, I wonder how we can maximize our t.v. audience and make
>as much money as possible?"  [ more analysis deleted. ]

I understand this; I was replying to someone's question as to
who or merit Wazzu had won and lost to.

I guess we Pac10 types (at least Wazzu fans like myself)
will have to hope and pray that Iowa loses to mighty
Minnesota, thus throwing an incredible moneky wrench
into the disgusting Copper Bowl contingencies.
--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4098      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: Tounging Your Sister
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:05:56 GMT

  I wrote:
>>     Ohio State and Michigan have tied this year, leaving both sides with the
>>unfortunate duty of kissing their sisters. I've noticed that Michigan fans
>>seem to be enjoying it, though, as this is their third time.

  Ho Sun Pang (Louis) replied:
>Hey Steve, is that what you *think* or what you *hear* or what you *see*?
>For God's sake, I am yet to see a Michigan fan cheers for the tie in this
>newsgroup!  For all I know, Michigan fans *tease* Moeller for the tie.

     Louis, it was a joke! Your excerpt of my post left out the smileys, which,
IMO, was rather unfair.
     For any other humor-impaired Wolverine fans out there, I want to assure 
you that I was just kidding about the sister-tounging thing. I'm sure you guys 
are in shock right now, and you need someone to beat on, but I would suggest 
you pick on the Huskie football team, and not on a sort of jubilant Buckeye.

                                        Steve
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan vs.  OSU
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:19:58 EST

In article <Af3cdke00WBNA2VEZa@andrew.cmu.edu>, William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> It's now 13:32 left in the 3rd quarter with UM ahead 6-3.  I'm wondering
> if Moeller will have enough faith in Collins to allow him to pass the
> ball atleast a few time.  
> We shall see...............
> 
> Will

GUT CHECK! Buckeyes come storming back to show WHO KNOWS HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL.

I have never in my life seen a crowd as fired up as at _THE GAME_.

Hey Moeller, get a life. Michigan State is your rival? Well, maybe that's
the level of competition that you deserve. Totally outclassed!

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


-Garrett
From: cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA)
Subject: Re: TRIPLE PLAYS (was Re: Help with a trivia question)
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 08:04:22 GMT

>Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Arkansas finish #3 in the country 
>in all   three one year? 
>I believe that the year was 1977. In this year they went to the Orange 
>Bowl and shocked Oklahoma. I don't remember them being in the Final 
>Four that year ( I doremember UNC, UNCC, and Marquette - don't remember
>the fourth).
>This could have happened in the late 1960's. I don't know when, but 
>my dad      brings it up once in a while.

1977 Final Four:  Marquette, UNC, UNLV, UNCC
1978 Final Four:  Kentucky, Duke, Arkansas, Notre Dame

1977 NCAA World Series:  Arizona STate, South Carolina
1978 NCAA World Series:  USC, Arizona State
1979 NCAA World Series:  Cal-St Fullerton, Arkansas

1-2-78 Orange Bowl:  Arkansas 31, Oklahoma 6


>-- 
> The 1040 Income Tax form under the           *   The Rickster
> President Bill Clinton Administration        *   milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu
> 1) How much income did you earn last year?   *
> 2) Send it in.                               * 

The 1040 Income Tax form under the
Bush Adminstration
1)  Did you make more than 70,000 last year?
2)  You did?  Shoot you don't owe any taxes then


Bryan Cooper, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu
ps. peace
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From: weyland@sn.jsc.nasa.gov (WEYLAND,MARK)
Subject: Re: Best looking cheerleaders in college
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:02 CST  

In article <1eraubINNp6r@eagle.natinst.com>, larrya@natinst.com (Larry Anglin) writes...
>In article <23NOV199210425756@sn.jsc.nasa.gov> weyland@sn.jsc.nasa.gov (WEYLAND,MARK) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov23.153502.10489@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The One and Only) writes...
>>>Well, it's that time of year again.  We all know that Ohio State has the
>>>best marching band (I believe it was empirically proven here a few weeks
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>The Fightn' Texas Aggie Band has NEVER lost a halftime!!!
>>
>>
>>GIG'EM  AGS!!!
>>
>>Mark Weyland
>>Texas A&M University - Class of '88
> 
>Mark:
>Although I was a member of the University of Texas Longhorn Band, the Showband
>of the Southwest, for 4 years, and did march at two victories over the Aggies
>in College Station, I will not start a flame war by saying "My band is better 
>than your band."  But I will make two observations:
> 
>1.  There is a trophy for the best collegiate band program in the country
>called the Sousa trophy.  When it was presented to UT three years ago,
>only Michigan and Ohio State had previously won it.  I don't think it has
>since been presented to A&M.
> 

1.  The two bands are of two totally different styles, t.u.'s (or my high 
school), and A&M's.  I'm not sure how one would *judge* if a good apple was 
better than a good orange. 

2.  I wouldn't Woof too loud that I was a *band geek*, even at A&M they're 
considered BQ's (band queers).


>2.  In 1981 at the A&M-Rice game, the Aggie Band became confused in the 
>middle of the show.  Half of the famous 'flying T' wound up at the wrong
>end of the field while the rest of the band looked like the not-so-famous
>'flying gamma'.  Shortly thereafter, the entire band left the field without
>even finishing the show.  When a football team leaves the field without
>finishing the game, it is called a forfeit.  I don't know how a band could
>call that a victory.

I'm not privy to the incident in question, so no comment.

Good luck thursday!  I love these games, there's never a favorite.

GIG'EM  AGS!!!

Mark Weyland
Texas A&M University - Class of '88


> 
>Regards,
>Larry Anglin
>Engineering Manager
>National Instruments 
> 
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