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From: patrickd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer)
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Subject: DS9: The virus...
Date: 25 Jan 1993 06:14:49 GMT
Organization: Deep Space Eight (Damn...some people have all the luck!)
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Summary: Coolness

SPOILER!!!



















Quark at ops was a cool idea.  Kind of like when Crusher or Troi was left
commanding the Enterprise.
 
That's all I have to comment on.

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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: DSN Deep Sixed?
Organization: Clark University
Date: 26 JAN 93 02:20:44 GMT

In a previous article, gpotts@hebb.uoregon.edu wrote:
>Help!!  Someone out there has started a nasty rumor that DSN is soon to be
>deep sixed.  Two possible reasons why have been postulated.  1) This allows
>the powers that be to withhold all remaining episodes to be shown only at
>conventions for lots of dinero to those who are prone to addictive
>personalities and will flock like sheep to pay to see what happens to Garek
>and the dear Dr.  2)  This allows the powers that be to put the remaining
>episodes on video tape to be released through video stores, again, for
>boodles of bucks.  PLEASE!! Say it isn't so!!!!  I still haven't recovered
>from the shock of losing Max Headroom!
> 
>Ex Africa Semper Aliquid Novi - Pliny the Elder

Well, let's see...DS9 is a good show, has amazing ratings, and has a core 
audience that would watch sixty minutes of white noise if the title "Star 
Trek" were attached.  I could see why Paramount would cancel the show.  
Surprised they didn't just finance ten seasons of episodes and burn the film 
without releasing it, release the six Star Trek movies into the public domain, 
and pay off the national debts of all industrial countries...

(please consider this in the poor taste and humor under which I mean it.)

..Elvis Presley, sharing an account with JFK and Jimmy Hoffa

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From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
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Subject: Rec.Arts.DS9.Kira.Dax.Babes :)
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:44:57 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's





Must really lower ourselves to call women "babes".....

The answer is yes!

Like Kira is a total "Come Ye Faithful" chic babe!
Like love those aliens .....

Like sign me up for the "We want Daxs Slug Fan List" also dudes!


signed,
Spots World
Spots World
Totally looking for pussy!
From: st1lv@rosie.uh.edu (McLeod, Stephen)
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Subject: Re: Who's Worse--Bashir or Crusher?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:06 CST
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In article <RL7oXB1w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca>, vincent@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong) writes...
>Having seen two episodes of DS9 so far, I'm fairly certain that the
>Star Trek writing crew MUST see this newsgroup on a semi-regular
>basis.
>Why?  Because I'm sure their reaction was: "You're complaining about
>Wesley Crusher being the worst ST regular character?  No way--we can
>top that!"  :)

Both actors are doing a good job of portraying their characters.  However, the
early Wesley character was much more 'one note' that the early Bashir.  Bashir
is being portrayed as a complex character IMO.
I like the characters on DS9 because they are not perfect.  Bashir may be 
dorky at times but to be honest he reminds me a lot of Michael York as 
D'Artenyon (horribly spelled-- sorry) in the Four Musketeers.  Rather than
calling him 'dorky', I think earnest would be more appropriate.  The character,
not the actor, trys too hard and has to many false romantic ideas about the 
'wild' frontier.
Bashir does a good job of rounding out an ensemble cast.  If he was competant
like Sisco or angry like Kira or etc... he would be redundant.  Finally, the
medical scene from the first episode (won't say more to avoid spoilers) showed
he does not lack steel and courage.
---
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From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Subject: DEEP SPACE NINE MUSIC.
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:36:36 PST
Keywords: music

	I am compelled to express my relief that many of you have,
as have I, identified the musical theme and accompaniment of _Deep
Space Nine_ as very poor.  I enjoy reading Usenet Trek posts in
general, but overly zealous postings have retained significant
space here (and in any other Trek forum I've attended) and I feel
that this excessive enthusiasm tends to blind some Trek aficionados
to non-technical aspects of the show, in favor of attention to
scientific detail.
	I devalue the music of _Deep Space Nine_ as I do for more
than one reason, but the outstanding reason is this: the Star Trek
legacy is extremely distinctive, and the music of this new series
possesses no unique personality in the slightest.
	The theme disappoints me the most.  It is appalingly nonde-
script, even when not compared to the easily recognizable themes of
the first two series.  Shows like _The A-Team_, _Gilligan's Island_,
_Three's Company_, and even _Jeopardy!_ and _The Price is Right_
boast more definitive and appropriate theme music.  The incredible
success, agenda, creativity, complexity, meticulosity, and fan fol-
lowing of Star Trek certainly warrants a theme score with at least
as much personality as any of those aforementioned programs.  Den-
nis McCarthy's _Next Generation_ incidental compositions are
shamefully chicken-shite and lacking in creativity and emotiveness.
I am not certain that he continues to hold the musical reigns with
_Deep Space Nine_, but it certainly seems that way, and unfortu-
nately, he also seems to have been assigned the task of creating a
worthy theme song, one which he failed to accomplish.  Who _did_ write
this tripe, anyhow, and who writes the deplorable incidental music?
Whoever s/he is, s/he is as untalented as McCarthy ever was.
	To those of you holding threadbare proponent positions in
favor of _Deeps Space Nine_'s music, I pose these questions: is 
there not a relative correspondence between the greatness of a
musical work and its distinctiveness?  Isn't a television show bet-
ter served by unique labels, both visual and aural?  Please answer.
I realize that someone like Jerry Goldsmith, one of the greatest
film composers ever to compose, is a tough act to succeed, but this...
this... SHITE music for _Deep Space Nine_ is unexcusable and no one
involved in its inclusion in the show is to be exonerated.

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From: semele@oscar.belcore.com (Semele Halkedis)
Subject: Re: Hippo Underpants Orange Desk
Reply-To: semele@oscar.bellcore.com (Semele Halkedis)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 20:21:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.170548.9930@mercury.cair.du.edu>, mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN) writes:
|> Got hit with the Babel virus, sorry.  For those of you
|> who haven't seen it you might want to hit "n" now
|> to avoid infection.  For those of you who have, I've
|> got a couple of questions:
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|> First off, I loved this episode.  Very well written.
|> But some qustions:
|> 
|> 1.  When Bakshir gets the virus, he is talking to the
|> computer.  I noted that what he said was not what
|> the computer printed on the screen.  Did the computer
|> also have the virus in it's system?  Is that silly?
|> Did he say more than what was said and the computer
|> picked that up?  

I think we were seeing the computer from Bashir's perspective -
that was when he realized he had the virus - when the
computer looked like mumbo-jumbo.

|> 2.  Did anybody think that the wonderful Quark/Odo
|> scenes were reminiscent of Spock/McCoy on sort
|> of a darker level?

Yes - I enjoyed their interaction - I hope they continue it.

|> 3.  It struck me as odd that Kira got infected too.
|> Why didn't the Bajorans, if they made the virus to
|> infect the Cardassians, make absolutely sure the
|> Bajorans themselves were immune, especially if it
|> was airborne and the Cardassians were nearby?

Good question.

|> Marc

Semele
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What do they do for restrooms on enterprise?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:05:51 GMT

HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:

>In <16B644EA.R3DRS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R3DRS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:

>> This may be a subject already covered at one time or another, but with my many
>> years of star trek original and next generation, i have never seen any
>> reference to what the crew does for showers and restroom facilities.  Do you
>> suppose transporter technology is used to obselete these bodily functions?

I seem to remember something in the plans about a head on the bridge.
There are definitely heads in the novels.  They just haven't botehred on the
show.

They figure we wouldn't think about it.

Go figure.



LJC

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From: dwj@iedv6.acd.com ( Dan Johnson         )
Subject: Re: First Impressions Review -- ST: DS9: "Babel" ** SPOILERS GALORE**
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:34:13 GMT

more spoilers:

In article <1993Jan25.055912.29545@athena.mit.edu> jen@athena.mit.edu (Jennifer Hawthorne) writes:
>(they didn't show if it hit the other Ferengi.)  They were a trifle
>inconsistent with what exactly the virus' effects on the victim were,
>though -- for example, when O'Brien typed the gibberish into the padd,
>he didn't seem to realize it was gibberish, but when Bashir saw the
>computer spitting back his gibberish at him, he caught on.

Actually, I think they showed us what the normal computer display
looked like to Bashir at that point.

>even if it sounded okay to him.  If he didn't hear her clearly, why
>wasn't he trying to drag _her_ to the infirmary?  

I think the aphasia was unstable at first for O'Brien.  Later, it was
pretty obvious to both of them that the other people around were only
understanding Kira.
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From: davidm@consilium.com (David S. Masterson)
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Subject: Re: English as Earth's standard language in the 24th Cent.?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:24:39 GMT
Organization: Consilium Inc., Mountain View, California
In-reply-to: hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU's message of 24 Jan 93 07:43:34 GMT
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>>>>> On 24 Jan 93 07:43:34 GMT, hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas
>>>>> Kenneth Janberg) said:

> Somebody mentioned that English was supposed to be the standard language
> in the 24th century (on Earth at least).

There is a difference between standard language and native tongue.  Having a
standard language means that pretty much everyone understands that language
whereas speaking your native tongue might be something only understood by the
few people living in local area where you were born.  Kind of like (I believe)
how Mandarin is the standard Chinese language while there are many different
Chinese languages.

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From: BARNESD@vax1.elon.edu (Danny Barnes  )
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Subject: Space Rangers
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:51:44 GMT
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Well, I did it.  I actually broke down and watched Space Rangers, and I have
only one comment:

DO YOU THINK THE SPECIAL EFFECTS AND SHIPS COULD BE ANY MORE OBVIOUSLY
COMPUTER GENERATED?!?????!!!!!!!

Hopefully SR will die soon so we can get back to concentrating on the REAL SF
shows, namely TNG and DS9.

--Danny Barnes
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From: frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell)
Subject: Nana Visitor's acting (was Re: Avery Brooks's acting)
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:13:34 GMT

In article <ewright.728083824@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V.  
Wright) writes:
> In <C1F7Es.4us@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J  
Gorcey) writes:
> 
> >     flat, believability breaks down.  I'd say Brooks should look to
> >     Nana Visitor for a bit of nuance -- "There's your wormhole!" "...
> >     since I was old enough to pick up a phaser."  Etc.  
> 
> Nana Visitor is capable of nuances?
> ...  There's nothing wrong with a character being angry,
> but to be realistic, a character has to be capable of *some*
> emotions besides anger.

You haven't seen "Past Prologue" yet?

Granted, she hasn't let her guard down in any episode since.  (The scene in  
"Babel" of Dax and Kira walking together captures this perfectly: Dax was  
amused and curious, and Kira stalked beside her with an an expression of "Just  
TRY messing with me.")

--
Frank Mitchell,	Business Systems Analyst, First National Bank of Chicago
email:frank@fnbc.com (NeXTmail)

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From: ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Subject: Re: troi
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:40:19 GMT

I would have liked to have seen more done with Troi's psi powers.  E.g.,
in (I think the show was called) TIMASIN--the one about the scientist whose
people took poison sometime in late middle age, and Luaxana fell in love with
him and wanted to go down to the planet and stop it--if in the scene in which
she was attempting to bully O'Brien into beaming her down . . . .
 
If she had attempted to overwhelm his will and take over his body--and I think
a Full Betazoid could, if she tried--and Deana were to come in at the last
moment and throw a psychic shield over O'B.--that would be something.
 
There have been events in which Troi has been involved in hand-to-hand combat,
but when she got into such a situation, couldn't she have sent an emotional
blast--she is a projective empath, as well as a receptive, is she not?--
that would cause her opponent to have at least a nasty headache, or would
perhaps throw the image of his worst nightmare in front of his eyes?
 
In short, I really think that the writers were given a VERY useful set of
potential plot-devices which they have not fully exploited.
 
 
 
Another Rust-Belt Yankee Exile in Charlotte!
 
Any opinions expressed are mine, not those of the Atkins Library.
 
Bruce Alan Wilson ali00baw@unccvm.uncc.edu
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From: meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky)
Subject: Re: Jean-Luc & Beverly
Reply-To: mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:08:31 GMT

In article <gwendoly.728208139@sfu.ca> gwendoly@fraser.sfu.ca (Gwendolyne  
Chua) writes:
> I guess I've missed lots of earlier episodes of ST:TNG, and probably 
> crucial ones, too.  However, it seems to me that there's some chemistry
> between Jean-Luc and Beverly (for instance, there was a lot of discomfort
> in two episodes, one where Beverly meets Vash, and the other where 
> Jean-Luc hears about Odon's (the trill) feelings towards Beverly). I also
> seem to remember hearing that the two characters have been romantically
> linked before, but then again, I could be mistaken.  Does anybody know
> for sure what the deal is between Jean-Luc and Beverly?
> 
> GC
They've been teasing us with this one since season one. The exact nature of  
the Pickard-Crusher relationship has never been compleatly fleshed out. All  
we do know is that, whenever they are about to die, Beverly has "somthing"  
she wants to tell Pickard. Nobody knows what secret she wishes to devulge to  
Jean-Luc. My guess "Weasly is really YOUR son." :)

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"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not  
sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
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From: jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K Ness)
Subject:  Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Reply-To: jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K Ness)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:23:56 GMT

I just saw Manhunt, the episode where Lwaxanna had her
sights on Picard during her midlife sexual crisis.  When
Troi informs Picard of her mothers intensions of marrying
him, Riker blurts in laughing, "congratulations sir".
Picard wasn't amused.

Not one of the all timers, but I made me laugh last night.
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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Hormones
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:01:34 GMT
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Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1993Jan22.172527.11252@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>
>       Until rec.arts.startrek.sex is created, I'll post
>whatever I please, thank you very much.  You have no right to
>tell us that we can't comment on the aesthetics of Kira and Dax
>anymore than I have the right to tell you not to comment on
>O'Brien's rank, Worf's spine, Odo's nose, or the design of
>Nebula class starships.
>       Incidentally, I'm somewhat disappointed that actual
>Trekkies (Trekkers, whatever) have no problem telling others to
>"get a life."  Considering how many people have spoken those
>same words to *us* (including William Shatner) you would think
>that we would not turn around and do it to others.  To be honest,
>my first impression when I hear anyone say, "get a life", is that
>the speaker himself is in need of one.
>                                                       -Quinn

Yeah, you tell him, Mighty Quinn.  :-)

How dare they tell us to get a life and how dare they tell us to
stop talking about Dax and Kira?  Hey, when you live with your Mom
and are a 34 year old computer nerd, where else but STNG and DSN
are you going to see babes.  :-)

Note the smiley!   :-)

Regards,
Tom Rogers
roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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From: ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko)
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Subject: Re: Star Trek info. requested.
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:34:43 -0500
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The name of the ensign that spilled the hot chocolate is Ensign Sonya Gomez.
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
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Subject: Re: DS9: "Babel" - Comments **SPOILERS**
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:11:15 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1k18nhINNobe@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> randall-joshua@yale.edu (Joshua E. Randall) writes:

>Also, the panicky ship captain says that he *and*
>his crew are leaving, yet we only see Odo drag the captain
>off the ship.  I guess the rest of the crew got vaporized?

Actually, he said "The rest of my crew is in your sickbay, so I have to
leave to get my cargo delivered" right before he tried to get the hell
out of Dodge.  It was just him by then.

Rob T
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"Shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have all of this,
 and, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, from you?"
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