From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Re: Perot's spine
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:42:02 GMT

In article <168716403.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:

> In article <1992Sep28.223517.23482@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
> jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (Jeff Heilner) writes:
>>Speaking of brainwashing.....how long have you worked for GM?
>>I expect the upper tier management there is not composed of people with
>>nice things to say about Mr. Perot....have they been talking to you?
> 
> Nice ad hominem.

Thank you. Judging from your attacks on the personalities of Perot and his  
supporters, you seem an expert at "ad hominem"

> I suspect, since you work at Motorola, that you can't
> believe this.  Do the views of upper management at Motorola control
> your thoughts?  I didn't think so.

Unfortunately, I've only been at Motorola for a couple of months so I  
guess they haven't gotten around to me yet. :)


[ Enlightening (really, I'm not being facetious) GM employee perspective  
of Perot's tenure there deleted. Go back and read it. ]


> He could have stayed the course,
> fought the good fight, taken some hits, but influenced the improvement
> of GM.  But he chose to quit and flee.  Nothing changed, except Ross
> got richer.
> 
> He will do the same with his political evanescence.  I like the man's
> homespun style, but he has never had to influence anyone - he orders
> them.  That will not work in government.  Congress will not buckle. 

Perot has answered this criticism many times, saying he understands this,  
and will work for a consensus. I guess if you don't believe him however,  
it doesn't really matter what he says.


> Voting for him will be wasted.

If I don't think George Bush or Bill Clinton are worthy of my vote,  
therefore, how is a vote for Perot anymore of a "waste" than voting for  
someone I don't want to give my vote to?


> Of course, his image is of utmost importance to him.

I don't really care about Ross' ego, image, or any other part of his  
personality. All I care about is how he'll do as a President. Some people  
are trying to convince me that his personality makes him a poor choice for  
President. I'm willing to take the chance that his ideas are more  
important. If you are not...well, that's why we all get to vote.

Did ya notice that yesterday the only issues addressed were the deficit,  
the economy, and how to solve the country's growing economic problems.

No "Family Values"
No "Murphy Brown"
No "Draft Record"
No "Iran Contra"

Just Republicans, Democrats, Perot supporters, AND THE PRESS! talking  
about real problems.....it was very refreshing. 


 
> As for the popular myth that "his" ideas are now instituted at GM,
> I think a GM person might be in better position to comment than a
> Motorola person. 

You are right....but, as far as determining how Perot will do as  
president, I don't really care what he did at GM. 

Like you said, you can't run government like a business. 
His actions at GM are nonsequitur.


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Jeff Heilner
Motorola SPS - Tempe, AZ 
Email: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (NeXT)
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