From: rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Die! NASTY-Pens
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:06:53 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Sep4.145709.2808@cs.rochester.edu>, ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep3.203348.1705@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>>Well, I have seen your work before and I truly thank you for monitoring the 
>>newsgroup for us.
>>[... b.s. ...]
>>[... shit ...]
>>[... assholeX2 ...]
>>some guy with no name 
> 
> Kirk: Spock, how *do* you explain this strange behaviour?
> Spock: Fascinating, Captain. It would seem that each year at the
>   beginning of the semester, anti-social children return to the
>   net and spew trash. Apparently the number of graduates is exactly
>   balanced by the number of new accounts with "Freshman" in their
>   address. I find it quite illogical to say things from behind the
>   security of a terminal that you wouldn't even think of saying to
>   someone's face.
> Kirk: But Spock, this guy's from Cincinnati, not from CMU or PSU.
>   Speculation?
> Spock: Perhaps Captain the world is full of anti-social little twerps
>   who are getting a taste of what they think is power, when in fact
>   all they're doing is proving how silly they are.
> Kirk: Thank you, Spock. I'll watch for them at the Academy.
> 
> George
> -- 
Thanx, George, for popping into the middle of the argument. Had you
read all the posts, then you would realize that I was repeating what was
indirectly pointed at me. Anyway, you certainly are right. Sitting in front of
this terminal sure gives me a feeling of power. And since I dont have much
of that here at work, I really get a rush from posting to this newsgroup??????
Nice try.

Tom, I agree that this is about enough non hockey talk for one discussion.
I still completely disagree with your posts, and your approach, but will
not disagree with your right to post them. There are Pittsburgh fans out
here who have endured a lot of hassling, as I have said before, since
the late 60's. When you win the CUP, you expect it to get a little better.
On the ice in Pittsburgh last year skated one of the greatest teams of all time.
We probably should have argued it on statistics and accomplishments. You would
have won one point on the fact that they had not won the regular season but
would have lost on other important evaluative criterion. And to suggest, as you
did, that there is one criterion that determines whether or not a team is 
"great" (or perhaps it would be better thought of as one of the best teams of
all time) is simply preposterous.

You wonder when people will be satisfied. Some people here take well
constructed arguments, with facts, and react to them with ridiculous "I think"
posts. In this case, that is what both of us are doing. I got sick and tired of
reading it from others and I am reacting out of disgust. Most of my arguments 
have been off the cuff and reacting to what I read above. I take none of it 
back, still disagree with your argument and its premise, but agree that it 
is time to move on and stop wasting bandwidth. 


!eric!


ps Tom, feel free to email me on this: if you'd like, pick three teams that 
you consider great, come up with what you think is a realistic formula for 
making that determination, and I'll show you that the Pens of 1991-1992 
compare very favorably to at least one of them....

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