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From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
Subject: Re: The Mac is not ideal (was Re: Amiga OS weaknesses and strengths)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:24:54 GMT

 Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams) writes:
>
>To be fair here, it should be noted that PageMaker on the Mac also 
>includes it's own Postscript printer drivers and does not use Apple's 
>standard driver (although you can if you want).  I'm not sure about Quark 
>XPress.  On the other hand, PageMaker is the only Mac program I know of
>that does this - every other application I'm familiar with (inlcuding
>a wide variety of graphics and word processing programs) uses the standard
>Apple Postscript drivers.
>

     Up until 2.1, AmigaOS unfortunately didn't even _have_ a postscript
driver of its own.  I haven't really messed around with the one that's
included now enough to comment on its performance, but i was definitely
long overdue, and its lack is part of what made a lot of WP/DTP apps
require drivers of their own.  A lot of these programs include custom
drivers but will work with the standard system drivers.

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From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: No BS at all
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:15:33 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

[Marc writes]
|>>...I get around [the limitations of PrintMonitor] by using a
|>>third-party package called PowerPrint that comes with a VERY nice print
|>>spooler.

|In article <58243@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
|>	I thought we were talking about the supplied OS only.  Several of
|>the Amiga problems you mentioned in your original post are also easily
|>solved using 3rd party programs.  For example, there are a half dozen
|>excellent cut/paste programs that work across all applications.

In article <C0Cyp3.29w@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
|   Anothe Macintosh nicety is that ALL Macintosh paint programs support 
|structured graphics.  Is there a third-party utility that will allow me to
|use IFF DR2D structured graphics with DPaint IV without converting the
|images to bitmaps?

	Sheesh.  And you accused *me* of changing the subject.

                                                        Dan

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From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: To VM or not to VM?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:44:51 GMT

In <C0GpzB.34v@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   As standard software, as OS/2 and the Macintosh does?  No.  Does the Amiga
>have an unsupported third-party VM system available for it?  Yes.

Wonder how you can praise any application software... as it is
'unsupported third-party' too.

On the Mac you are happy to use programs from anyone, on the Amiga C=
has to do it all.

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From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: Will PC Makers Survive Mutimedia?? 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:14:13 GMT

>Everyone knows that choosing an IBM (Regardless of wether youre running OS/2,
>Windows, or DOS) is the absolute WORST choice of platforms to develop
>multimedia on, simply because its architecture is so weak and slow..
>
>Hell, even Byte magazine admits the PC is the worst platform for multimedia.
>Guess which one they chose as the best? :)

Let's differentiate multimedia for display, and export to T.V. (which
the Amiga excels at) from multimedia for education, training,
productivity and fun, which the PC excels at.  

If I were buying a computer for a child today, I would without doubt
buy an MPC.  You would be foolish to buy a CDTV with a fraction of the
titles, and less power.  A non-CD IBM or Amiga is similarly
unacceptable because it is not an efficient knowledge delivery system.
From: Steve_Halliburton@naraltd.raider.net (Steve Halliburton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: The Marc-meister!
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Date: 4 Jan 93 23:49:12 CST
Organization: Narabedla Limited BBS

OK, granted that Mr. Barrett shoots his mouth off sometimes without
thinking first. I've done that a couple of times myself.

But we should try to separate the wheat from the chaff, and mobilize in
action on some of his more valid points.

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From: bill@west.msi.com (Bill Poitras)
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Reply-To: bill@west.msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:16:15 GMT

Jerry Shekhel (jerry@msi.com) wrote:
: But while we're at it, perhaps YOU'd sound less dumb if you could tell me
: what an OS is good for without applications.

Demos?

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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: 1200/4000 pricing
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:35:04 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
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'>Finaly,  I think some developers will come back / look at the Amiga for the
'>first  time  when they see how many A1200's and A4000's there are.  If they
'>continue  selling  the way they are now, there should be at least a million
'>of  them  in a year (OK, its not that much compared to IBM's, but it should

     They're dropping Amiga support right now with 4 million Amigas out there.
   What makes you think they are going to come back for 1 million AGA Amigas?
   I think a million is a little bit optimistic by the way.
 
'>be  enough  to  get  some attention).  Since they will all support the same
'>graphics  modes,  with  at  least  256 colours in hi-res and 2 megs ram and
'>accelerated  speed,  it  should  make it a lot easier to port those VGA and
'>SVGA  games  over;  especialy  things like the Sim-series (god, I hope they
'>re-release AGA versions!).

      Whether its easy to do or not, you still have to convince the software
   developers that there is a viable Amiga market out there.  If you call 
   a lot of these software companies asking about Amiga versions they all seem
   to say the same thing.  They are cutting back or dropping Amiga support
   because of lack of sales.

							Greg Greene
                                                        ggg@kepler.unh.edu


'> -Dances With Coyotes-EMAIL: dances@qed.cts.com-At the begining of the movie-
'> --AKA Dances V2.0/Coyote/Critter/Magnet/Major--they know they  have to find-
'> -Former Net-Lurker - A-M-I-G-A! NOT AMEOBA%#$!-each other.... but they ride-
'> -World's slower programer and cursed with 1.3!-off in  opposite  directions-
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From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: RISC Amiga?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:46:28 GMT

In article <C0LMIx.2Iv@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.152234.28078@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>>
>>	With everyone else fleeing Motorola's 68k, does anyone know
>>	if commodore plans to get away from the 68k line to a new
>>	chipset?
>
>Who's fleeing the 68k line?  Apple?  Not likely, it'll be a while
>for the PowerPC, and even then they'll keep the 68k line up to
>see of the PowerPC sells.


	Yes, Apple.  Their commitment to the PowerPC is evidence enough.
	Who else?  Sun.  How many more?  Most companies making MC68k
	based machines are taking steps to move elsewhere (or have
	already done so).  

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From: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Comdex/Quicktime released for the PC
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:29:55 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <1993Jan5.235654.18056@lth.se> d91ds@efd.lth.se (David 
Sundqvist) writes:
> When I last looked at a Mac advertisement (december) they were still 
> selling MacClassic wich has a 68000 processor. And for twice the price
> of an a600. So the claim wasnt that far off i think. 
> - David

A number of Mac dealers have some overstock of the old Classic they're 
trying to sell.  Apple no longer manufactures the Classic (and hasn't for 
a number of months).  As I stated before, all current Macintosh computers
have at least a 16 MHz '030.  By the way, does that A600 you're price-
comparing have a hard disk (how big?) and a monitor?  (And how much RAM 
does it have?)  I've seen 4 MB Classics with 40 MB hard disks advertised 
for well under $800.

- Dale Adams
From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:41:03 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <73061@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>Oops...there goes all that self-modifying code.

The Amiga community has been warned against using self-modifying code
for a long time, it screws up everything.  :)  Less of a problem than
one would think.

Greg
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From: ccb8m@onyx.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy)
Subject: Re: Should I get an A4000 or wait
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:53:29 GMT

In article <C0p0os.DIr@dcs.ed.ac.uk> jaxh@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Jon Hanson) writes:
>I definitely want to get one the AGA Amigas, but which one ? 
>The A1200 seems like a deadend once WB4.0+RTG etc appears, and 

So does the A4000, yes?  Why not grab a 3000/IV24 since you are anticipating
DIG/RTG :)  See you in '94 :)

Seriously, the A1200 is going to be third party heaven.  My anticipation
for peripherals is : 

   1) Zorro III bus extender  (A1200 tower, here I come :)
   2) 68030> /SCSI accelerator boards w/ 16Meg Memory.
   3) PCMCIA Network adapter/driver combo
      PCMCIA Hard drives
      PCMCIA Battery backed SCRAM drives :) :)
      etc...

>the A4000 costs a bomb. Is it worth waiting for an AGA Amiga with 
>a '030 ? If so, how long am I likely to be waiting ?

Not as long as you will be waiting on DIG/RTG :)

>
>By the way, to all the PCvsAMIGA people, who gives a ****? If you 
>don't like the Amiga then why are you posting in this group. The 
>Amiga was never intended to be a PC competitor, so why compare them...
>

It takes all kinds to make an advocacy group.  Let 'em stay, they are
fun to banter with :)  Every once in a while an intelligent thread
pops up from their frothing...


Charles C. Bundy IV
ccb8m@virginia.edu
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More BS from -DB-
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:04:55 GMT
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie

In <C0CGtC.z9@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   Yes, the Macintosh's multitasking is almost completely broken.  But that is
>a problem with what's "under the hood".

That might be the cause. But the _problem_ is all the annoyance for the
user when multitasking doesn't work 60% of the time. This _is_ a surface
problem.

Regards,
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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Will PC Makers Survive Multimedia?? 
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:42:13 GMT

In article <C0Hrrr.77I@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod) writes:

>If I were buying a computer for a child today, I would without doubt
>buy an MPC.  You would be foolish to buy a CDTV with a fraction of the
>titles, and less power.  A non-CD IBM or Amiga is similarly
>unacceptable because it is not an efficient knowledge delivery system.
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And an MPC is? Care to elaborate on this one?
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: clone prices & doom & gloom
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:46:25 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:

>	Really?  You can get an A1200 for the same price as an A500?  Not
>   around here. 

Well in the UK you can.  Or at least you would if C= still made A500's
anymore :-)  The A1200 was introduced at the same price A500+'s used to
be sold at just a few short months ago.

	Mark
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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: clone prices & doom & gloom
Date: 7 Jan 1993 01:52:18 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

'>Sure, an A1200 goes for around $600 and includes 2M Chip RAM, 68020,
'>IDE interface, AGA chipset, AmigaDOS 3.0, PCMCIA slot, etc.  An A500
'>can be had for as little as $300, if you can find one for sale, but
'>you give up all of the features listed above.  You can add accelerators,
'>2M boards, HD controllers, etc., but the AGA chipset is for all practical
'>purposes impossible to add.

	Well, you just proved my point.  You can't get an A1200 for the same
   price as an A500.  Anyways, originally you said that upgrading to an A1200
   was similar to me upgrading to a Diamond Speedstar 24X.  Doesn't this seem
   a little drastic to you?  I mean, all I do is replace a graphics board, you
   have to go out and buy another Amiga. 

							Greg Greene
                                                        ggg@kepler.unh.edu
'>Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Amiga OS weaknesses and strengths
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:00:59 GMT
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie

In <C0CJnH.4DL@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   What happens if you give a text file a project icon, enter "c:more" in
>the tooltypes for the icon, and "more" is not in the "c:" directory?  Do
>you get an "Unanble to open your tool 'c:more'" requester?  This does not
>happen on the Macintosh.

Sure. On the Macintosh it is impossible to tell Finder what program
should be used. And if you are too smart and specify a complete path
then you of course run into problems.

>   That would not fix any of the archives on the nearly 800 Fish disks, that
>already have projects with hard-coded paths for the needed utilities.  

Correct. Someone should invent a tool to restore icons to plain tool
names.

>Soething needs to be added to the OS so that the OS can go searching for a
>utility if it isn't found in the hard-coded path in a project's tooltypes.

Sure. But that's not what the Mac does. The Mac stores with each document
an ID of the creating program and the Mac finder keeps a record of all
programs and their corresponding IDs. The Mac does not _search_ for
a utility and it is hardly possible to remove any trails of the creating
program.

I'm not sure about system 7, but the double-click feature is 'broken'
(to stay in your terminology) on the Mac as well. Try to open a document
by double clicking on it when the program is already loaded into memory.
A nice requester appears which tells you that "the program isn't found
or is already loaded". You have to use the program's menu to load the
file (and have to search for the directory first since the file requester
is no AppWindow).

>this is a discussion of the problems of the Amiga OS.  Besides, Apple manages
>to sell three times as many Macintoshes as Commodore sells Amigas, every
>year, in spite of the inelegance of the underlying Mac OS.  This shows how
>much Commodore needs to shift their priorities from the underlying OS to
>what's on the surface.

Hmm. There are more people buying PC clones which even run MSDOS. It
is probably because of the slick interface that shows up at the surface.
(Well, compared to the underlying code it _is_ slick.)

Regards,
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From: rayhann@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Rayhann CHEE)
Subject: A1200 : What's Good About It ??
Originator: rayhann@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU
Organization: Department of Computer Sci, University of Melbourne
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:15:49 GMT

Dear People..

	I just want to find out, what's the concensus on the A1200?
	Haven't seen any reviews of it yet but lacking the $$$$ for
	the A4000, I was debating to trade in my old but loved A500
	and buy one of these.. thing is how is it expansion wise?

	I mean like when I get a job I'll probably get an A4000 but
	I would like to be able to soup up the A1200 and use it as a 
	portable.. * Hey who cares if I need a Power Brick but I can
	plug it into any TV  :) *

	SO how about some help fellas... btw other PC's do not hold
	any interest for me, especially the *** and A**** F*****. So
	users of those please do not suggest I switch... even though
	I'm jealous of the 3rd party hacks/upgrades that are soooooo
	CHEAP for them... Well I suppose one has to pay for quality..

	Thanks in advance,

	Rayhann
From: mbrown@legend.akron.oh.us (MARK BROWN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: RISC Amiga?
Reply-To: mbrown@legend.akron.oh.us
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C= has Already PUBICLY stated that the Amiga is made RISCable(look at 
the 200 pin CPU slot, the Paths are 64 bit wide). I talked to Mr. 
Eggenbretch at WOC in Canada about this.
     Mark

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From: dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us (Bowie Poag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Will PC Makers Survive Mutimedia?? 
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:10:17 CST
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network


Everyone knows that choosing an IBM (Regardless of wether youre running OS/2,
Windows, or DOS) is the absolute WORST choice of platforms to develop
multimedia on, simply because its architecture is so weak and slow..

Hell, even Byte magazine admits the PC is the worst platform for multimedia.
Guess which one they chose as the best? :)

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From: jm39s70@sycom.mi.org (Jim Mallory)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does reading this group make you depressed? The story of a victim.
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>I have always wondered where all those 68k-chips go as Apple and
>Commodore and all those laser printers can't be the only ones using
>68k as 68k-series sells a lot more than those combined. Anyone have
>any idea (excluding MB)?
>

Well Wellfleet Routers use 68020's and 030's in their Communications Engine.  
And they use 68040's in their Routing Engines.
From: marv@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Marv Gordon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Amiga OS weaknesses and strengths
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:05:00 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

And what about Mark's raving about AmigaVision being dead? Having been an
AmigaVision Pro beta tester I laughed hysterically at that one!!!

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From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: HELP--AMIGA OR IBM PC CLONE?
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:02:48 GMT
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Andreas Stenmark (c92andst@odalix.ida.liu.se) wrote:
:
: In fact, his statement should be very much true. The '040 uses the same
: "double clock" technique that exists in 486DX2's. So, to be fair,
: the '040/25 should be compared with 486DX2/50 (and '040/33-486DX2/66).
: But even then, the '040 is probably faster than the 486 (depending
: on application).
:

What BS.  The benchmarks posted here showed that a 486DX is slightly
*faster* at integer performance than a 68040 running at the same MHz.  A
486DX2 is *much* faster.  If you're going to flame me for trusting benchmarks,
please provide a better measurement.

:
: The 486 is not much more than an optimized 386 with
: embedded FPU. The '040 on the other hand is quite an upgrade from '030.
: In my opinion, the 680x0 series is much more modern than the Intel CPU's.
:

You've been reading too much Motorola PR.  At least the 486 contains
a complete implementation of the FPU and MMU; the same cannot be said of
the '040.  What an upgrade.

:
:      /// Andreas Stenmark - Computer Science at LiTH, Sweden
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