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From: Ken Stineman <stineman@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: Sam Ash O.K.?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A77482ECA8026802@dnwalkerkip2.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
X-Xxdate: Sat, 9 Jan 93 18:26:04 GMT
Organization: Princeton Unveristy, Class of '93
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:26:09 GMT

     Sam Ash is my local music and synth equipment store (located in
White Plains, NY).  The mail order catalog comes from their New York, NY
store.

     Sam Ash is quite reputable, has a wide range of equipment, and in
general will give you a very fair price.
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers.synth:992 rec.music.synth:19717 misc.forsale:34504
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth,misc.forsale
Subject: Re: SALE!Mackie1202,CM-32L,rackstand,MPU-IMC
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:46:11 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <Fvb=Pt@engin.umich.edu>
                              malouin@engin.umich.edu (Curt Malouin) writes:

>$300 seems a bit high for a used 1202.
>I picked one up new in October for $325.

Someday, even engineering schools will require their students to learn enough
economics to know that the market value of an item has little to nothing to
do with what someone once bought one for, and everything to do with what the
market will bring.  The Mackie 1202 mixer is a relatively new breakthrough
product that is currently in high demand.  This means that, if the unit for
sale is still in very good to excellent condition, the seller has every reason
to expect that he can find a buyer willing to pay this relatively low discount
from its original sale price.

>Great mixer, BTW

Exactly.

P.S. Yeah, Nick.  I know.  But hey, at least I didn't threaten to kill
     somebody! ;-)

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Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler)
Subject: M1 PCM Cards 
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 18:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada

Is anyone aware of any company producing PCM cards for the M1 other than
Korg?  

...Jason
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (LAiRD j. NeLSoN)
Subject: Re: Patch Erase by Sysex?
Organization: large
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:49:55 GMT

On a related thread, is there any K4 editor out there for the 68000 Mac?
Probably not.  *Sigh*.

LAiRD

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: foster@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Kirk Foster)
Subject: Mackie 1202 prices
Keywords: Check New Gear Pricelist
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:49:38 GMT


One should check the new equipment price list when considering purchasing
used items also. I believe my purchase of a 1202 for $299 from Zinn Music
in Noblesville, Indiana is the low-buck winner. This was a first phone
call, no haggling, everyday price. Mackie has a surprising after the sale
customer support. Those warranty cards can be worth something.

As they say, your mileage may vary.

Kirk
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers.synth:1024 rec.music.synth:19746
From: phammond@cs.tcd.ie (Paul Hammond)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth
Subject: Midi patchbay
Summary: What's a good one to buy, how much, where does one order
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:49:04 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)

I'm looking to purchase a good Midi patchbay. It must have 8 Midi IN's,
8 Midi OUT's, and have full routing and Midi merging facilites, as well
as being configuration programmable via patch change messages.
Can anyone 

#1 recommend models that fit these requirements ?
#2 recommend somewhere to mail order one ?
#3 give me a rough idea on price ?

Also if anyone is interested in selling one then I am interested in
making a purchase.
Email me personally please.

Cheers

Paul

phammond@cs.tcd.ie
From: rosensta@spade.rutgers.edu (Michael "Trott" Rosenstark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Resistance Summing/Mixer Circuit
Summary: I have a postscript schematic of a simple mixer available for emailing
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:20:43 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.synth
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



I will mail anyone who wants it a schematic of a simple mixer that I
received a while back from Bob Davis of Viewlogic, Inc.  It's in
postscript format.

cheers,

mike
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rosensta@ace.rutgers.edu
rosensta@silvertone.princeton.edu


      "Domini caveat e smilium, diem e smilium, Corpus Christi e smilium."

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From: tmis1692@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: WANTED: Roland JUNO-60 Schematics
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:24:18 -0600
Keywords: Roland, JUNO, Synth
Distribution: world
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

Anybody have or know where I can get a schematic for a Roland JUNO-60?  Also,
do you know how to convert a JUNO-60 to MIDI?

Thanks, 

Kevin - TMIS1692@selu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: asc7556@u.cc.utah.edu (Andrew Corradini/SBDC)
Subject: WANTED: EPS (not EPS-16) samples
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 04:57:31 GMT

Hey ho,
 
I have a nice ol' EPS original with a 4X expander.  I have about 120 disks
full of samples -- maybe 3-400 samples in all -- mostly public domain but
pretty great quality.  The shop where I bought the EPS samples a bunch of
Fairlight, DX-series, CZ-series, Korg, E-mu, and Kurzweil sounds
analog-wise, and spent some good time formatting, adjusting, looping, and
what-noting them thereafter.  There are also a ton of "natural" sounds,
including an incredible stereo fly-by of a couple of jets at an airshow, a
toilet flushing in stereo (what a must!), and so on....
 
I have alchemy, so could provide samples over the internet if someone else
is so equipped to trade...  I'd really rather not go to the work of
uploading each sample, converting to a uuencoded format, and uploading
unless someone else is willing to exchange, so I'm sorry for not just
sticking them at some site...
 
If you would like to trade, please e-mail me at the address above. (Or if
you know of a site with EPS samples in any kind of format I can read with
my Mac, uudecode, etc., and Alchemy, I'd be only too happy to do the
aforementioned work....)
 
If this is all too much, I sure wouldn't mind trading samples by mail. 
I'm also very interested in good drum patterns, since I'm a lousy rhythm
programmer, and would love to ape Peter Gabriel or NIN rather than the
standard old boring 12/8 or shuffle patterns....
 
Later,
Andrew
From: freewill@carson.u.washington.edu (William Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: What are 303's and 808's?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:59:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu


I bought the TB303 and TR606 to accompany my Juno-6 and it was my first
introduction to modern music technology/digital control. You know, where
pushing one switch would change the function of another set of switches.
Now, this is kind of like the 'shift' key on a typewriter, but it was
ALIEN to me at the time. I never got very far, traded them back shortly
thereafter. Now, after a DX27, ESQ-M, D-10, Proteus, K4, MMT-8, SR-16,
numerous effects boxes and working with computers for a living, I've got
the jist of it, I think. And to finish up with a general life anecdote,
I didn't start playing music until age 20; didn't touch computers until
age 30, so don't let age stop you. A show about changing careers later
in life had a woman who said she didn't want to get a college degree,
because she'd be 40 by the time she got it. The response was, well, you
will still be 40 anyway, but you won't have the degree. The important 
thing is if you want it or not.       freewill





Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: billy@irvine.com ( Bouncer **)
Subject: Re: Wanted - a Mirage
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:39:19 GMT

> I would like to purchase a Mirage in good working order.  I do not need a 
> rack mount unit.

My Mirage works great and I'd be glad to sell it to you at the $275 (if you'd
cover the shipping) we had talked about before the year-end festivities.  I
have 80+ disks and the manual, its ready to go out the door (I've already
transfered the sounds I needed).  Write me back (billy@irvine.com) if you're
interested and we'll finalize any details.  Thanks.

P.S.

  Hey, remember me?  I had written you just before the holidays regarding
  selling you my Mirage.  Hope you had a good Christmas and happy New Year
  and all.

-- Billyb
From: doug@penny.telcom.arizona.edu (Doug Wellington USGS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Is $300 ok for Juno-106?
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Telecommunications
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

A local store has a Juno-106 for $299.  I took a quick look for the
used price list, but wanted to get people's opinions.  I know next
to nothing about these things.  I like the way it sounds, but want
to know if there are any gotchas with the sound/midi/keys/etc.

Thanks!
-Doug
From: Paco Ojeda <ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: REQUEST Good sources of blank cassettes
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:57:25 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: macdrf_43.dfci.harvard.edu
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X-XXMessage-ID: <A77347788E044F9B@macdrf_43.dfci.harvard.edu>
X-XXDate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 20:00:08 GMT

Greetings. I have had moderate success in finding good local sources of
bulk cassettes. I'm interested in good quality chrome C10's and C20's for
demo work. TDK now sells a "Master Series" cassette that I've had
excellent results with. It comes in C10, 15, and 20 configurations. The
problem is that I can only find it at local record stores, sold
individually, at prices that I'm sure can be beat.

So my request is:

1. For a good priced source of brand-name cassettes (mail order?)

2. For a good priced source of bulk cassettes.

Any information would be appreciated.

Paco

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Paco Ojeda-Gonzalez               |   ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu
Macintosh Consultant              |
FOG Midi Pre-Production and       |                      ffoogg@aol.com
Graphic Services                  |
Boston, MA - USA                  |
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From: mjkobb@media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: K2000 with WX-7
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:31:40 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory

Greetings!

  Anybody out there used a K-2000 with the Yamaha WX-7 wind
controller?  I seem to remember that the K1200 was one of the few
modules with enough flexibility to do a good job with this beastie,
and since I've sold my DX-7, I'd like my next synth to be able to
use it.

Thanks,
--Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (LAiRD j. NeLSoN)
Subject: Patch Erase by Sysex?
Keywords: sysex
Organization: large
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:52:06 GMT

Not being a Super Sysex Programming God, but possessing a daunting array of
pages devoted to nothing BUT my K4's midi implementation, I wonder if there's
an easy way to wipe all the patches...or a single patch...or a multi...by
a sysex dump.  Erasing everything through a 2 x 16 screen with 24 buttons
takes a *long* time.

LAiRD

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ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu           |
ljnelson@amh.amherst.edu            |          The Quintet-essential.
(413) 542-2932                      |
From: system@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: For Sale: FZ-1
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 13:03:35 PST
Reply-To: system@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

will.roch803@xerox.com (Will Weidman) writes:

> In article i0aZwB2w165w@cyberden.sf.ca.us, system@cyberden.sf.ca.us writes:
> >An FZ-1 for $1100? Hmmm... They've been averaging for around $300-$400
> >in the Recycler in LA and the Advertiser in SF - wow...
> >
> >__________________________________________________________________________
> >   |       /         |\
> >   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ system@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
>
>
> Are you sure you're talking about the right machine?  FZ-1...16-bit 8 voice s

Yup... The FZ-1, although a 16 bit sampler, was the first 16 bit sampler.
The envelopes are non-existant, the looping is confusing as hell and the
overall sound is not that great, although it is an impressive sampler for
it's time. I also believe it only goes up to 32Khz sampling rate.

<X>

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ system@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
From: geers@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (GGeers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: FOR SALE:  Ensoniq EPS 16+ Turbo
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:59:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Penn

One year old.  Perfect condition (minimal use).

"Turbo" features:
1MB Flashbank RAM
2MB sampling RAM
SCSI interface (includes unused 20mb hard drive)

Also:
Sound Source Waveform Construction disk set
Fairlight samples disk set
Waveboy Parallel Effects disk set
Lots of public-domain samples disks

All packing and manuals
$1850. obo  ($3500. invested)

Email or 215-898-0575 days.
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers.synth:1068 rec.music.makers.guitar:1161 alt.guitar:11152
From: sarisky@a.chem.upenn.edu (Mark J. Sarisky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar
Subject: Roland Guitar Synth and Amp For Sale
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:38:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.synth
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

For Sale:
 
Roland GR-300 Guitar Synth with G-202 Guitar
        -The Fripp/Belew/Metheny Guitar Synth
        -Strat Style Roland Controller with 2 humbuckers
        -Floor unit is dented but works great, guitar is in good condition
$350 OBO plus shipping
 
Michell Guitar Amplifier (great with above synth)
        -Solid State 50W amp, similar to a solid state Princeton
        -Great Clean Sound, sounds hot with distortion boxes.
        -Celestion Speaker
$150 OBO plus shipping
 
Contact: Mark at sarisky@a.chem.upenn.edu
         email me here or call 215-925-7372

-- 
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sarisky@a.chem.upenn.edu			Philadelphia, PA 19147
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From: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Q: Standard MIDI playback boxes.
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:25:44 GMT
Reply-To: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

>>(a la Sound Brush) that plays back Standard MIDI files?  I'd like to
>
>I think the Alesis Data Disk can also do this.



The Alesis has a proprietary?? disk format, so you could not take a
standard MIDI file written on an IBM disk and read it.



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800 Village Walk, Suite 122
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: jpl@world.std.com (John P Lamar)
Subject: Boston Computer Music concert at Mobius
Keywords: Computer Music Boston Mobius
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:35:57 GMT

I'm posting this for Neil Leonard
please don't Email me with reservations or questions call the number.
John Lamar 
                       New England Soundscapes:
                 Composers Performing with Computers
             Richard Boulanger, Ron Kuivila, Neil Leonard 
            and The Larry Polansky/Nick Didkovsky Ensemble
                        January 29 & 30 1993

Mobius presents New England Soundscapes, a weekend of live computer 
music by Richard Boulanger, Ron Kuivila, Neil Leonard and The Larry 
Polansky/Nick Didkovsky Ensemble.  These performances will present the 
vanguard of live computer music by composer/performers from New 
England.  Performances are January 29 & 30, Friday and Saturday at 
8:00 pm.  Tickets are $8 general admission and $6 for students and 
seniors.  Mobius is located at 354 Congress St. in Boston, near the 
South Station Stop on the red line, just two blocks past the 
Children's Museum.  For further information and reservations please 
call Mobius at (617) 542-7416.  Reservations are encouraged.

New England Soundscapes offers a weekend of live music by 
composer/performers who work with interactive computer music systems.  
Included in this group are composers who have played a leading roll in 
the development of interactive computer music systems.  The composers 
are known for their work with affordable technologies and artist 
designed software:  these factors contribute to the spontaneous, 
playful and innovative qualities of the music.  

Mobius is an artist-run center for experimental work in all media.  
Founded in 1983 by members of the Mobius Artists Group, Mobius 
operates as a laboratory for artists experimenting at the boundaries 
of their disciplines.  Presenting the work of over 100 artists each 
year, Mobius is unequaled in its commitment to the alternative arts.

Mobius, Inc. is funded by the National Endowment for the Arts, the 
Mass Cultural Council, and the Mass Cultural Council as administered 
by the Boston Arts Lottery Council, the Polaroid Foundation, and 
generous private support.

-End-


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: mjkobb@media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb)
Subject: Re: K2000 with WX-7
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
	<MJKOBB.93Jan7090716@media-lab.media.mit.edu>
	<1993Jan7.211242.6149@parc.xerox.com>
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:04:18 GMT

Greetings!

> As a public service, would your contact be willing to document the
> "major parameter adjustments" necessary to make the K2000 patches
> respond well to wind control?  It could save a lot of us a lot of
> startup time and frustration.

  Perhaps.  I'll ask (if he hasn't read this already).  I can
summarize though.  Basically, the problem comes in balancing the way
attack velocity affects timbre and volume:

  Example:  your patch may use attack velocity to alter the timbre.
(A stupid example is a softly-struck piano key vs. one struck hard,
or a plucked versus popped bass string.)

  The problem is that patches also use the velocity to determine
volume, and most patches will not let you increase the sustained
volume louder than the initial attack.  This makes it hard to softly
attack a note on the wind controller then perform a crescendo, since
you can't get louder than the initial volume.

  What the fellow who responded suggested was to set the K2000 to
ignore the velocity entirely, and play the note at full volume.
Then you map the WX's pressure parameter to volume, so you can start
soft and then crescendo to your heart's content.

  You can map the timbre filters to other controllers within the
K2000, although I don't know which one you'd use.

That's about it.
--Mike


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.makers,comp.music,alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: What are 303's and 808's?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: inet
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:54:34 GMT

In article <robg.726191470@citr.uq.oz.au> robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty) wri
tes:
>The later TR505 featured all the sounds of the TR808, 727, and other
>Roland machines as samples yet was cheaper and a fraction of the size.
>(anyone feel free to correct me on this one - I'm not sure about it).
>I think I am getting confused here with the Boss drum machine mentioned
>elsewhere (DR550?).

Right.  I have the Boss DR660, a step up from the 550, and it has most, but
not all of the 808 and 909 sounds.  It is particularly weak in hi-hats.  The
sounds are tunable in both pitch (very wide range!) and "nuance" which I
think has something to do with how much of the attack and decay portion of
the sample you hear.  You can make it sound like you're hitting a particular
part of the cymbal or give a kick drum a tighter punch, etc.  The 550 and
660 are digital, controlled by buttons, so while the snazzy effects (reverb,
chorus, tuning, etc) are nice, they are not a whole lot of fun to program
because the sounds cannot be changed by a twist of a knob.  I just got the
device a week ago so I hope I know what I am talking about.

Mike
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                                                            Mike Brown
_  _ _____________________________________I think, therefore I ambient
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: techno addicts and the DR-660
Summary: techno addicts and the DR-660 Drum Machine
Keywords: techno synth drums analog
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:15:57 GMT


Okay, some may say I was a little off my rocker, but I was in my Friendly
Neighborhood Music Store and as I walked out, I started banging on
anything in my path (like any two year old would do :). As I banged I hit
a pad on a drum machine and heard this familiar BOOm sound often made from
a TR-808.  Hhhhhhhuuummmm, I thought to myself, could it be, nnnnnaaaw.
Its just a little DR-660.  Well, I started tweeking the thing to see what
was in its guts, and I was quite astonished.  TR808, TR909, sound editing
capabilities, reverb and chorus effects, this thing was real COOL.  So, I
bought it, and for a lot less than my R5 cost me, with four times the
sounds.  

So, the point of this is, if your a techno/acidhouse/industrial-type
junkie (yes, I hate classifications as much as the next guy) then I would
recommend this little box. For the price, its one heck of a bang for the
buck, and although its memory is limited, I just hook it up to my
sequencer and let 'er rip. If anyone wants specs on it, I can get them to
you, although it can be found in the newest edition of Keyboard in the
comparisons of Drum machines. 

hey, it beats trying to order midi kits for TR808's, 909's, and other drum
machines  :).


me and my 'four-line' .sig

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