HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jrobi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jim Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Anasthetics and piercing
Summary: lidocaine can be your friend
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:19:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I think the pain question is much more complex than the 
like/dislike dichotomy suggests.  I personally like the way a 
needle feels sliding through my flesh.  (This puts me, I think, into 
a rather small minority.)  Other people like pain in a bewildering 
variety of complex ways, under a similar variety of circumstances.  
Some people don't like pain at all, and so want to minimize the 
pain between themselves and their goals.  Be true to yourself, I 
say (rather tritely) and you can't go wrong.
 
I was a medic in the army and a diving medic in the navy reserves.
I've used LOTS of Xylocaine (lidocaine) on a bunch of different 
body parts.  It's not terribly difficult to administer nor is it
particularly unsafe (after all, they let enlisted men use it.)  It 
is very effective.  It's the same stuff dentists use in your mouth, 
so most of you know what it feels like, though in the soft tissues 
at issue here it is considerably less painful to administer.  For 
those of you into pain minimization (see, we're all `into' pain 
one way or another ;-)) here are my recomendations (assumes good 
technique for both the anesthesia and the pierce.)  As always, 
your milage may vary.  
 
Ears, no local.  Nostril, septum, either way, probably no 
local.  Lip, tongue, cheek, no local.  Eyebrow, with local.  
Nipple, either way, probably with local (women are more likely 
to benefit from the lidocaine).  Naval, with local. Prince Albert, 
no local.  Ampallang, apadravya, with local.  Frenum, no local.  
Haffada, no local (very difficult to anesthetise anyway.)  Guiche, 
I don't know.  Labia minora, no local.  Labia majora, either way, 
probably no local.  Clit hood, no local.  Clitoris, either way, 
probably with local.  Perineum, no local.
 
Generaly, benefits of local anesthesia will vary proportionaly 
with the diameter of the piercing needle, the fleshiness of the 
location, the length of the pierce, and the skill of the 
anesthetist.  Benefits will vary inversely with the skill of the 
piercer and the ease of the pierce.


-- 
Jim Robinson                       I've never quibbled, if it was ribbald,
jrobi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu       I would devour where others merely nibbled.
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From: crispin@csd.uwo.ca (Crispin Cowan)
Subject: Piercers in Pittsburgh?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:51:09 GMT

(posted for a friend.  Replies to address below, please)

And I'm posting on the behalf of yet _another_ friend....

This may have been discussed recently, but I didn't know I needed to
know until just now, so if it was, could it go around one more time?
I'm looking (well, my friend is) for a piercer to do nipples (female) in
Pittsburgh.  If you know of one, please post and/or email details to

	35011_2644@uwovax.uwo.ca

Thanx poodles.

K.
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From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: MORE NIPPLE QUESTIONS
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center And Storm Door Company
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:46:48 GMT

>If you ever climb down off your childish "College Net" and get on RIME
>or FIDOnet or anywhere where a TRUE cross-section of America hangs out,

Has this newsgroup recently been gatewayed to FIDONET or some such thing?
That would explain the recent jump in volume and drop in S/N.
--scott
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From: barb@sgi.com (Barbara MacRae)
Subject: Re: septum retainer
Reply-To: barb@lenny.esd.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:55:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.164906.3022@mercury.cair.du.edu> tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:
>has anyone ever worn or known someone who's worn a septum retainer?

mmm, I live with someone who has one. Does that count? 

>are they really completely out of sight, in normal conversation?

I'm taller than he is, so I don't usually see up his nose. If we're
sitting down across from each other, though, it's completely
invisible. I don't even notice it when he's *over* me, but then,
I'm usually concentrating on other things in this circumstance.

>assuming one doesn't throw one's head back, nostrils flared :\8)

Even then , I don't think you'd really notice it.

-Barb


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From: shomer@Cadence.COM (Steve Homer)
Subject: Re: Left/Right standards AGAIN (Was Re: info please)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:02:05 GMT

In article <hurd.702340742@sfu.ca> hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd) writes:
>rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
>>But it does seem that, among men who have only one pierced ear,
>>the vast majority are pierced on the left.  And it's probably
>>safe to say that many of them chose to be pierced on the left
>>because of a widespread perception that right == gay...
> I've peirced my right ear a dozen or so times, I'm left handed, and thus
>can oply really reach the right ear to push the thing through.  I suspect
>that this is how the majority of first peirces woulnd up on the left.
>Leaving people to wonder why.....?

When I had my ear pierced in a shopping mall jewelry store in 1980, 
the clerk told me, "I HOPE you want it in your left ear!" Maybe 
homophobic jewelry store clerks are the explanation for a lot of 
those men's-left-ear piercings...?
-- 
________________
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		If you want to send me email, please use my "home"
		address: shomer@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
From: hnb5164@tamuts.tamu.edu (Heather Noel Bobbie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: calf tats  was Re: foot tattoos
Keywords: n
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:45:32 GMT
Organization: ~/lib/organization

>>In article <1992Apr12.152824.15630@mercury.cair.du.edu> tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:
>>
>>>if my leg were shaved for a tat, would hair still grow there normally?
>>>that would kinda look funny i htink.

i have 3 or 4 male friends who have in the past few months
all gotten ankle tattoos.  their legs were shaved when they
were inked but after that the hair grew back quite normally.

they look pretty good even under the hair.

hnb
who may or may not have a sig
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Subject: PA GAUGE
From: buck.nekkid@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Buck Nekkid) 
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: buck.nekkid@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Buck Nekkid) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

Steve Schochet says
>When I originally got my PA, I got 2 tit pierces and the PA the
sameevening,
>all
> 14 ga. Eventually I abandoned the tits because the rings
>seemed to get in the way of the heavy tit play I enjoy. But the
>PA

I have a question. What's a PA? Is there a MA too?
From: caveat@emptier.Corp.Sun.COM (Agent Double-O Soul)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: TATS AND CHLORINE
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:00:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: emptier.corp.sun.com

bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent) writes:
>|> If you're drunk
>|>when you have it done, it's end up blurred.

batman@batcave.Sun.COM (Karl MacRae - Burnin' with Optimism's Flames)
writes:
>|	This is utter horseshit. Get a clue. There's no direct
>|	relationship between blurring and drunkenness at the time
>|	one is tattooed. 


This is a pile of doo-doo.  Karl's right.  While living in Hong Kong, I was
tattooed while incredibly liquored-up.  I don't remember getting the tattoo,
but what I woke up with is definately not blurred.  In fact, it is quite crisp
and clear.



Emily


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not Sun Microsystems
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From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: piercing in pittsburgh?
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:58:46 GMT

Walter Allen Young, III (wy09+@andrew.cmu.edu) writes:
: does anyone know of any reliable piercers in the pittsburgh area?  i
: called a local tatoo shop, and when i asked them if they did body
: piercings they reacted as if i had just admitted that i liked shoving
: yams into my ears or something malignant like that.

One of the tattoo shops in Pgh does piercing, but I didn't like the
attitude of the fellow that answered the phone.  Further, unless I
misunderstood him, he said "four hundred dollars" for a Prince Albert.
That's about 4-5x what the Gauntlet and other respected places charges.
I didn't bother inquiring whether he actually said 'for a hundred 
dollars' instead, because I wasn't impressed.

Doug
-- 
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
We've had 4 years of domestic policy failure.  Fire Bush this November.
From: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (sugar and spice and puppydog tails)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re:    Anasthetics and piercing
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:58:34 GMT
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.corp.sun.com

i still say laughing gas would be an interesting anaesthetic to
try with a piercing.  it certainly takes care of the 'hurts more
than the piercing itself' argument, but would still need to be
administered (legally) by a medical personage.    anyone tried
nitrous oxide with a piercing?

elef

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From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: Questions o'tattoos-Indiana
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:13:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.224925.28654@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>  
be125@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Waller) writes:
>I know how it sounds and everything...but I am serious....
>I have been looking into it for a while.....
>But, it does matter about the cost because, I don't have a job
>right now and my income this summer will not be that much...

apologies, it did sound like you wanted a tattoo for the sake of a tattoo. 
you say that was a mistaken impression, good -- i'm glad you are serious, it
took me 9 years to get my first tattoo. As money is a problem, then a tiny good
piece is *much* better than a half-baked larger one.

--
Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute
     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: 519.663.3789                   P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
            vox: 519.663.3787 ext. 4108         London, Canada N6A 5K8
         Gaelic: Tha me leatsa ma cheannaicheas tu mi. Thoir dhomh earbsa.
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From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: several postings from buck.nekkid
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:10:09 GMT

In article <604.86.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us>  writes:
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Jeff Sumler writes to Ben (Wave?)
>JS>Since (presumably) anyone who reads and/or posts in this newsgroup
>JS>...I am being clear ??
>Hey, man, I dunno the dangers. What dangers? I'm new here, man. My girl
>friend's got a bunch of those piercing thing... in her nipples and other
>areas, and I did most of them myself. I've got some, too, and I did them
>myself, or she did them, and except for a little pus and some ocasional
>festering in some of them it's okay.

and then he writes:

>About tatooing feet, I one time took a regular ink pen (fountain pen)
>and some ink and tatooed my own foot. It was real easy an now I've got a
>picture of a pussy between my big and next-to-big toes. It didn't start
>out to be a pussy, but it came out that way, cause it was a doodle.
>Everybody who sees it thinks its cool.
    
and then he writes:
>I have a question. What's a PA? Is there a MA too?

it is just me, or is this familiar? check the from line  on "buck's"
articles...

just picking up on an observation made to me.... sigh.
--
Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute
     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
         Gaelic: Tha me leatsa ma cheannaicheas tu mi. Thoir dhomh earbsa.
From: dk24+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Jason Kyle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: The BEN SANSING Phenomenon
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:09:00 GMT
Organization: Office of the Provost, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


sorry sorry to drag this out...

>>Who is Ben Sansing?  A mild-mannered psychotic bastard who dares to
>>differ from the "Party Line" on some issues.

"dares to differ"...Doesn't it seem like this is always the half-assed
logic of people who show up on bboards to post things just to piss
people off...

-= DvRs
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From: be125@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Waller)
Subject: Re: Questions o'tattoos-Indiana
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:49:25 GMT


Lance,
I know how it sounds and everything...but I am serious....
I have been looking into it for a while.....
But, it does matter about the cost because, I don't have a job
right now and my income this summer will not be that much...
sorry if it sounded bad but thats the way it is....
I will only make 5.25 an hour...so it does matter
-- 
Rob Waller                 Internet: be125@cleveland.freenet.edu
Ball State University      Bitnet: be125%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
"The Captain"                      00rswaller@bsuvax1.bitnet
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Subject: RE: MORE NIPPLE QUESTIONS
From: ben.sansing@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Ben Sansing) 
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:08:00 GMT
Reply-To: ben.sansing@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Ben Sansing) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) raves...

>Learn something, twit.  Most of us are posting from work.

Okay, freak. I've "learned something". You're posting from work. Big
deal. You don't have a PC at home, you're wasting your boss' time... no
skin off MY nose...
                                                                                                                            
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From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: MORE NIPPLE QUESTIONS
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:51:55 GMT

In article <587.86.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> ben.sansing@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Ben Sansing)  writes:

>Usenet: ancient mainframe conventions. Unix. People accessing via
>terminals at school or the department PC at work. Cornball.


Learn something, twit.  Most of us are posting from work.


FWA
From: clements@stone.Princeton.EDU (John B. Clements)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: TATS AND CHLORINE
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:54:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Apr11.205428.20387
Organization: Princeton University

In article <496.86.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> ben.sansing@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Ben Sansing)  writes:
>F*** YOU AND EVERYBODY WHO LOOKS LIKE YOU.
>YOU EAT S***.
>F*** YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON.
>GO F*** A SKUNK.
>YOU ARE FULL OF S***.
>YOU F*** S***.
>F*** YOUR S***, A**HOLE.
>

  This group didn't used to be like this.

  Can someone publicly post re: how to implement an "author kill" in rn
(trn, etc.)?

thanks,

john clements
20.
From: ap32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Aimee Jessica Placas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: AFTERCARE
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:10:20 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

i had a tattoo done on my hip over 6 months ago, and parts of it are
_still_ raised. (the design is made up mainly of solid black lines
several milimeters thick).  am i scarred?  does anyone know if this will
eventually go away?  (what if i get touch up work done on the lines, as
i plan to do to even them out.  will that make it better or worse?)
much appreciated.
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Subject: A FEW QUESTIONS
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> Can a sunscreen or sunblock be added to tattoo ink, providing
-> built-in sun protection?

 No.  Unfortunately.


-> Why are nipples never tattooed?

 They sometimes are, it's just not very common.  There've been a (very)
few photos in Tattoo Magazine.


-> Can acne damage tattoos?

 Good question.  I dunno either.
                                                                
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From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: foot tattoos
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:27:59 GMT

I have seen a lot of feet that are tattooed.  Aside from the
fact that it is excrutiating to get and to heal, there seems
to be no problem.  That is, as long as you stick to the top of
the feet.


FWA
From: razer@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (The Artful Dodger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Maori, Inuit tattooing (Was Re: Home tattoo? Scarification?)
Keywords: nn
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:07:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: tiamat.12APR92160708
 <1992Apr11.134908.19892@julian.uwo.ca> <s74vmINN9le@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> <1992Apr12.195150.8721@julian.uwo.ca>
Reply-To: razer@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Big Bright Green Pleasure Machines, Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <1992Apr12.195150.8721@julian.uwo.ca>, lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes...
>In article <s74vmINN9le@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> batman@batcave.Sun.COM (Karl MacRae - Burnin' with Optimism's Flames) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr11.134908.19892@julian.uwo.ca> lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:
>>>i really enjoyed my recent readings on moari tattooing.
>>	The Maoris did some of THE coolest of all the primitive 
>>	tattoo cultures, and I've read less about it than about,
>>	say, Samoan and Borneo cultures. Can you point me to some
>>	source for info on it?
> 
>i'll look up the callnumbers, titles and ISBN of the books on next
>saturday's trek to the public library. even the statues they made had
>the appearence of being tattooed. unfortunatly for me, the inuit books
>at the library had no mention of tattooing. sigh.

	According to the National Geographic Society's _Indians
of North America_, Inuit tattooing was done with a needle
and sooty thread.

The Artful Dodger P65331727@CCIT.Arizona.Edu|Razer@Hacks.Arizona.EDU
"Can you imagine us years from today, sharing a park bench quietly?
  How terribly strange to be seventy!"
		-Paul Simon & Art Garfunkle "Old Friends" _Bookends_
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From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: the sounds of big ben
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:09:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.200830.3540@thelema.uucp> STella@thelema.uucp (STella) writes:
>In article <460.86.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> ben.sansing@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Ben Sansing) writes:
>>>barb@sgi.com (Barbara MacRae) writes...
>>>Well, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that to have Ben not
>>>like us is a good thing. I mean, would you want this guy for a
>>>*friend*? %^)
>
>Not relevant -- I'm too young for him.  Maybe someday....
>
>>Dear barb,
>>  My message to whatever-his-name-was used something called "sarcasm".
>>It was NOT intended to be taken SERIOUSLY. I forget that you folks are
>>all college kids who are still locked in the "take everything at
>>absolute face value" stage of life. I apologize. I'm used to dealing
>>with adults.
>
>Well, I understand that, and I do apologize with appropriate sincerity
>for not having realized that Ben was an adult, and we folks are
>college kids.
>
>STella@xanadu.com	1016 E. El Camino Real, #302, Sunnyvale, CA 94087


you folks are kruel !
to me that is.
twice in the last few articles i almost sprayed my keyboard with my drink

the full moon is, what? 1 day?, nearby.
i eagerly await my newsreading tomorrow. :-)

his own words have in the last while provided me with great mirth too,
dont scare him off, every group needs its comic relief...

  -ken, unmodified since august/90 -- far too long.  and spring will soon
          be here (why it's up to -4C right now)

               If I don't drive around the park,
               I'm pretty sure to make my mark.
               If I'm in bed each night by ten,
               I may get back my looks again.
               If I abstain from fun and such,
               I'll probably amount to much;
               But I shall stay the way I am,
               Because I do not give a damn.
                       -- Dorothy Parker
          

-- 
   - Ken Dykes, Thinkage Ltd., Kitchener, Ontario, Canada    [43.47N 80.52W]
         kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca  postmaster@thinkage.on.ca  thinkage!kgdykes
         harley-request@thinkage.on.ca          kgdykes@watmath.waterloo.edu
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: MORE NIPPLE QUESTIONS
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:21:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr10.162121.8069
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>If you ever climb down off your childish "College Net" and get on RIME
>or FIDOnet or anywhere where a TRUE cross-section of America hangs out,

Numeric hostnames.  MS-DOS.  Oh boy.


-- 


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From: lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: foot tattoos
Organization: Robarts Research Institute, London Canada.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:08:14 GMT
Keywords: nn

In article <sclu2INNc5q@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> batman@batcave.Sun.COM (Karl MacRae - Burnin' with Optimism's Flames) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.194721.8282@julian.uwo.ca> lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:
>	Oh, and I can't resist this stupid joke.
>	Gee, Lance, what kind of racing WAS that...
>		DRAG racing maybe?

mmmmmmmmmmmmm, cycling actually, (as we used to say:"bicycling --put some
fun between your legs")

>		(Sorry....)

no you're not. hee hee.

--
Lance
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