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From: jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Gad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:17:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:

>jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Gad) writes:


>But then *why* was he so please when Alex took a shot at Malice in San
>Francisco?

>			James Willer
>{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
> anyone at all}

Ummm... I don't recall SINISTER caring all that much one way or another, but 
MALICE was thrilled about it.  (I assume you're talking about that bit where
Polaris/Malice is flying away from Alcatraz, and she's daring Alex to blow 
her from the sky, And then goes away laughing when the bolt bounces off her 
shields?  The bit that ends with "...what matters is, you tried!" and Alex
kneeling in the dirt crying?)  I'm pretty sure that Mr. Sinister didn't express
any opinion of the event on-camera, but I could be wrong.  I thought that was
entirely MALICE'S doing.  If this is the wrong event that I'm thinking about, 
then could you perhaps provide a couple morre details of what YOU were thinking
about?


Jon Gad
jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Re: mutant???=mutate
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:39:35 GMT

	What about the character "Karma" from an early Spider-Man comic,
recently reprinted in Marvel Tales #250 (I think)?  She was from
Vietnam, and she and her brother were exposed to some sort of chemical
toxin/weapon thing.  She had the power to take over someone else's body
by remote control, as I recall.  Anyway, the thing is: it was suggested
by some other character (I should re-read this tonight) that she should
join the New Mutants or some such group.  Someone described her as a
mutant.  But she wasn't born with the power.
	What gives?

	- Gord Locke, a.k.a. glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:03:02 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <8epSHRm00iV0Q4ssQe@andrew.cmu.edu> mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael J. Keating) writes:
>Okay, how can anyone deny that Stryfe, at least, is Nathan Summers? 
>That scene with Jean all but proves it.  His references to a baby being
>taken from security and poked and terrified by machines has got to be a
>reference to Nathan's capture and subsequent torture by Apocalypse. 
>Also, when she asked "Why have you done this to me?" he says, "I was
>about to ask the same of you."  A little bit bitter, eh?  He must blame
>X-Factor for his past.  Who else could he blame?  They were supposed to
>have been protecting him!

How can anyone deny Stryfe (and/or Cable) is Nathan?  Easy.  So far,
we have nothing more than circumstantial evidence to prove that
they ARE Nathan.

And, about Stryfe blaming X-Factor (or just Jean) for his past:
why does everyone assume that Stryfe's (and Cable's) past is in
OUR past?  Maybe he's referring to events in our future (which, if
he is from the future - which seems rather obvious - could still
be HIS past).  Or, why does it have to be our RECENT past?  What if
he's referring to something from the early years of the X-Men?
(i.e., maybe he's really the future version of the Cobalt Man,
who has returned to get revenge on the X-Men for defeating him.
Note:  this is just an example.  I'm NOT serious on this.  Unless,
of course, it turns out to be true.  In that case, remember:  you
heard it from ME first!   :)    )

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Origins
Date: 9 Oct 1992 03:16:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3f.berkeley.edu

In article <BvtDBv.FG1@acsu.buffalo.edu> v083lmh8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Fred Otero @ UB) writes:
>
>	There are so many characters in the mutabt titles that have vague
>or non-existent origins.  Also, other characters have origins that are
>totally f**ked up (anyone come into mind).  IMHO, Marvel should take time
>from all these x-over to tighten up the loose ends and finally clear the air
>about many of those origins.  I think that it would make many of the characters
>more enjoyable and realistic.  Also, you'll be able to understand their actions
>and not be confused as to why they said a certain phrase or did a certain
>action.  I must admit, some of the origins can be better than ish. that deal
>with fighting.

I thought that the X-Men arc with Hazard could have been really good
if they had waited until after the X-cutioners Song.  The first issue
of that storyline was very good, IMHO, but the second one seemed like
the people at Marvel said "Hmmm, tie this one up quick, we got mo' money
to make." (Read: 12 polybagged w/ card cross-over from hell issues).
Oh well, who wants character development anyway?  Professor X was never 
a kid.  He's been an old guy in a wheelchair all his life.  Hazard must
have been psycho, thinking up that memory of him and Charles together.  He
was in a mental hospital for a reason you know.  Lets just throw in a fight
scene and leave it as a dangler for all eternity.  *sigh*

Coffee, now I'm depressed...
-- 
Welcome to the punchline .sig
   "Is it in?"	 "That's my belly button, how do you like my tie?"
   "So he takes his bowling ball and throws it in the sink!"
   "It's 10:00 do you know what time it is?"  "29... 29... 29..."
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From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Winding down on Babes...
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:59:20 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


	Ah, just one more day left on the Female Character Contest, huh?
Can I possibly give you folks out there that haven't voted any incentive 
to do so?
	How about some possible (can you have...) spoilers (... on a contest?)?



	1st place:  Can you say...   Deadlock?  Guess who between...
	2nd place:  Can you say...   Deadlock?  You'll NEVER guess who between!
	3rd place:  Still up for grabs!

And so on.  Come on -- cast yer yotes.  It's, uhm, an American Tradition!!!
	Haven't you always wanted to be a judge in the Miss America
pagent?  Well, so have I.  But this is kinda-sorta close (kinda).  Send me
mail -- if you're reading this, you've got the time!!!
	I know -- if YOU vote I'LL shut up about this whole thing until Monday!

		So, until the Catfight Battle-Royal ends,
			King Rat signing off!!!!!
From: jcowling@sol.UVic.CA (Jim (Dev-Null) Cowling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: New releases:  October 7 - 9
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:26:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada



These are the comics released by Capital City Distribution between October
7 and October 9, 1992.  Sorry it's late, but our books were late.

AC Comics

Femforce #53

Archie Comics

Archie Where Are You Digest #84
Betty & Veronica #59
TMNT Adventures Special #3

Dark Horse Comics

Dr. Giggles #1
Baseball Greats:  Jimmy Persall Story #1
Grendel:  War Child #3
Termintor:  Hunters & Killers #3

DC Comics

Action #683
Batman Adventures #2
Comet #17
Crusaders #7
Darkstars #2
Detective #653
Doom Patrol #61
Fly #16
Green Arrow #68
Guy Gardner #2
Justice League Europe #44
Justice Society #4
Legion of Super-Heroes #36
Lobo:  Infanticide #2
Timber Wolf #1

Disney Comics

Cartoon Tales (101 Dalmations, Ariel & Sebastian, Darkwing Duck,
	       Talespin, Beauty & The Beast)
Donald Duck Adventures #32

Eclipse Comics

Blood is the GHarvest #3
Retaliator #3
M #4

Malibu Comics

Cyberforce #1
Youngblood #3

Marvel Comics

Cage #9
Captain America #410
Daredevil #311
Darkhawk #22
Excalibur #58
Mutatis #1
Night Thrasher #3
Nightstalkers #2
Nomad #8
Original Ghost Rider #6
Punisher War Zone #9
Punisher/Captain AMerica:  Blood and Glory #2
She-Hulk #46
Speider-Man 2099 #2
Uncanny X-Men #295
Web of Spider-Man #95
X-Men #14

Rip-Off Press

Savage Henry #22

Valiant

Magnus Robot Fighter #20
Shadowman #9

Warp Graphics

Elfquest:  Hidden Years #2

Miscellaneous

Ray Bradbury Chronicles #3
Creepy #4
Flaming Carrot #29
Venus Wars II #4
Mad Super Special #87
Faust #9

VERY Miscellaneous

Marvel Super-Heroes Figures Assortment "B"
Marvel 1993 Super-Hero Calendar
X-Men Alert Adventure Game
Cinefantastique V 23 #4
Comic Relief #43
Ren & Stimpy Magazine (October)
Anime V (Oct)
B-Club (Sept)
Hobby Japan (Sept)
Model Graphix (Sept)
Wildcards Book XI:  Dealer's Choice
Punisher:  Guts and Gunpowder Cards
Hellraiser Trading Cards


-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria
-------



--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
From: jcowling@sol.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: New releases:  October 14 - October 16
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:42:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada


These are the highlights for new comics and related stuff released by one
distributor between October 14 and October 16.  Your mileage may vary.

Antarctic Press

Ninja High School Yearbook 1992

Archie Comics

Archie Story & Game Digest 59
Jughead 41
TMNT Adventures 40
Wild West C.O.W.Boys of Moo Mesa 2

Bantam

Ray Bradbury Chronicles 3

Dark Horse 

Deadline U.S.A. 6
Orion 1
Terminator: Endgame 2

DC Comics

Batman: Shadow of the Bat 7
Black Hood 12
Flash 71
Green Lantern: Mosaic 7
Hawkworld 29
Justice League Quarterly 9
Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt 4
Shade, the Changing Man 30
Star Trek 41
Superman: The Man of Steel 18
Valor 2
Wonder Woman 69
Batman: Prey TPB

Disney Comics

Walt DIsney's Comics and Stories 579

Fantagraphics

Cabinet of Dr. Caligari 3
Wildbrats 1
Usagi Yojimbo Book V

Friendly/Personality

Cyberfemmes 1
Original Crew 11
Spoof Comics 5
WildC.H.I.C.K.S. 1
Youngspud 1

Innovation

Quantum Leap 8

Kitchen Sink

Grateful Dead Comix 6

Malibu

Protectors 2
Shadowhawk 2
Tarzan: Love, Lies, and the Lost City 3

Marvel

Alpha Flight 115
Amazing Spider-Man 370
Avengers West Coast 89
Barbie 24
Darkhold 3
Ghost Rider 32
Guardians of the Galaxy 31
Marvel Comics Presents 117
Metropol A.D. 3
Namor, the Sub-Mariner 33
Knights of Pendragon 6
Quasar 41
Ravage 2099 1
Ren & Stimpy Show 1
Silver Sable 7
Sleepwalker 19
Terror Inc 6
Thor 455
Wolverine 64
Wonder Man 16
World Championship Wrestling 9

Millennium

Doc Savage: Devil's Thoughts 3

New England Comics

Man Eating Cow 2
Tales Too Terrible To Tell 6

Tundra

Legend of Sleepy Hollow
Maximortal 2
Lazarus Churchyard 2
Bratpack Collected Limited Hardcover

Valiant

Eternal Warrior 6
X-O Manowar 12

Viz

Battle Angel Alita 4
Macross II 2
Sanctuary 8

MISCELLANEOUS

Comic Book Marketplace 19
Comics Journal 153
Comics Buyers Guide 988 and 989
X-Force Figure Assortment "A" from Toybiz

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
-------



--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
			  -Admiral Stockdale-
From: garlick@cats.ucsc.edu (Tim Garlick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
Subject: comp.mulitmedia
Date: 16 Oct 1992 23:52:39 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cobweb.ucsc.edu


SJSU and various other groups are hosting the 'do what do' mulitmedia art
show in san jose, california, friday and saturday nights, beginning at
8:30 PDT.

one (and possibly two) cameras are being set up for access over the network
via a sun videopix board.  directions for connecting to the server are
included below.  since there is a limit of four simultaneous users, please
try to limit the length of time you are connected.

thanks, and enjoy.




-------------------
to view the video output of a video camera on location at the multimedia 
art show at SJSU friday and saturday nights (beginning at 8:30), do the 
following from your sun workstation:

your_machine% xhost + 130.65.60.1	(julia.sjsu.edu)
your_machine% telnet 130.65.60.1
login: video
(no password)

Enter DISPLAY IP number: [enter the ip address (not the name) of your 
			  workstation here]

at this point, a video window and then a control window will appear
on your screen.  

	click in the "connect" button in the control window 
		[new window appears]

	enter the ip address of the server, 130.65.60.1 

	click on the "connect" button.  [window disappears]

	click on "color" in the control window to switch to color [optional]

	click on "preview" in the control window

at this point, the video input should be displayed in the video window.
only four clients are allowed at any one time.  if there are four 
connected clients, you will not be able to connect.  this is a *very*
slow video board, so be patient.  when clicking on buttons, you may 
have to hold the button down for a while before a sub-menu appears (if
you are experimenting with some of the other options).

to view the (possible) second camera,click on 'props', then 'hardware' and
then choose input 2.

to exit from the program, type a control-c in your telnet-to-julia window.
-- 

Tim Garlick		Internet: garlick@cats.ucsc.edu
UCSC CATS		Bitnet:   garlick@cats.bitnet
PP-SEL, Calif EMT-1(a), KD6GLX
From: stryfe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Josh Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
Subject: DQ
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:18:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.81667
Reply-To: stryfe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Josh Geurink)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: stryfe@doc.cc.utexas.edu


	Dear lord, did anyone out there (since this evidently IS a political
subgroup, too!) watch the VP debates last night?  Quayle vs. Gore vs. Corpse.
And through the end of it all, one vp candidate came out looking the best,
summarized in one of his humorous remarks of the evening...

	"Mr. Gore speaks of 'personal negative attacks.'  Well, has anyone
been reading my press clippings for the past four years?"
			-V.P. Dan Quayle
Over and out!
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
Subject: Clinton World!
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:31:44 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


	Jeeez.  You'd think with all the postings this would be called
rec.arts.billclinton or something.  And what a proper name , REC.arts...
Get a perspective, people.  Watch some Rush Limbaugh.
From: kriss@mcl.ucsb.edu (Kriss Boyce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
Subject: wanted:ascii pictures of tiger from winnie the pooh
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:48:01 GMT

I am a winnie the pooh addict, and am looking for ascii pictures of tiger
the tiger....if you know where i can find some, or have one, please send it
to me at kriss@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu i would really appreciate your help...
thanks in advance!
kriss "bounce" boyce
From: gerry@keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
Subject: SANTA MONICA? - address of gallery wanted
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:27:42 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I just got a letter I wrote to Fred Hoffman Gallery, Santa Monica, Calif
"RETURNED TO SENDER - insufficient address". Does anyone know the address 
of this Art Gallery. I want to buy a catalogue they have for sale.
thanks,
gerry

--
gerry pratt  --  workstation support  --  university of keele
email:  gerry@seq1.keele.ac.uk   *   telephone :  0782 583072
"these opinions are mine, mine, Mine.....ALL MINE I TELL YOU!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.misc
From: Orakel@sarpih.no (Jens Kr. Kirkeb)
Subject: Politics
Summary: Quit Quit Quit
Keywords: quit! quit!
Organization: stfold Ingenirhyskole
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:35:27 GMT

Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaassssssse!  No politic discussions on rec.arts.....
Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaassssssse!  Some arts discussions on  rec.arts.....
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi)
Subject: Re: Night Club Two Step Query
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:56:14 GMT

From Jamie Hanrahan:

   In your first chart you're showing that a complete, er, cycle (S, Q-Q
   S, Q-Q) (or Q-Q S, Q-Q S; either way) in eight music beats, while in
   your second, you're doing it in just four.

I don't think so.  I think the second you referred to is:

>        check-step-forward      side- cross-side
>        one-  and- TWO          three- and- four

This covers 8 beats, not four.

From Henry J. Neeman:

   Buddy had us start on a rock step or check step in his
   routines, not on a side step.

One couple could start on the slow and do a side step;  another could
start on the quick-quick with a rock-step, and both would be in sync.
If they *didn't* end up in sync, then they are doing different things.
The real question is whether they do side-step on a strong beat, or
whether they do rock-step on a strong beat.  They should be doing
side-step on the strong beat.

   Here's where I disagree with Rahul:  I don't think that the
   strongest accent is on count 1 of the music, I think it's on count
   3.  See below.

   Nightclub two-step music -- and a lot of pop music in general -- is
   in 4/4 time with a strong accent on the third quarter note of each
   measure, like so:

   Slow/Quick:       Q    Q    S           Q    Q    S
   Beat:             7    8   1_2          3    4   5_6
   Dance Count:     One  and  TWO        Three and  FOUR
   Step:            Rock step SIDE        Rock step SIDE
             4 |                     |
             / |     !    !    !     |     !    !    !
             4 |    *    *    o      |    *    *    o
                              <                     <

See what I did to the second line?  Now we agree!  You can now begin on
the rock-step, but still do the side step on the strong beat.
-- 
Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@cirrus.com>
also: dhesi@rahul.net
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Laurie Brandt)
Subject: Dance Medieval/renissance
Organization: The Polyhedron Group
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 20:32:43 GMT

Looking for a bibliography and diskography fo Eurpoean medieval and
renissance dances.  I am also posting this on rec.org.sca. but I would like
to meet all like minded folk where ever they are.

Laurie E. W.
Brandt
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: c60c-2gx@web-2g.berkeley.edu (Charles Chiu)
Subject: Waltz - Form & Steps
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:29:54 GMT

	I have some questions for all of you dance experts out there.  I
see much variation in the waltz in both forms and steps, and would like
some clarifications:

(1)  My dance instructor told me to lead open left turns and open right 
turns with the heel.  With what waltz steps do you lead with the heel,
or the toe, or just the extended foot?  In general, what is the rule for
this?
(2)  I notice a lot of followers arch their backs, understandably to 
obtain the necessary "space".  Is this true for the leaders as well?
Does it look better for a man to bend away from his partner while
waltzing, or maintain a straight frame?  
(3)  In general, how far do we emphasize the "bend knee" and gliding
on toes aspects of the waltz (boom <bent knee> - cha - cha (on toes).
Should we keep this restrained (so as not to overdo it) or is it
more elegant to stress the up-down movement as much as possible?
(4)  does someone know exactly where the man's head should be during
waltz steps?  For example, during a spiral sequence, some leaders
turn their heads alternately towards and away from their partner, while others keep
their heads always away from partner's...  During turns, for example, is it always necessary to spot
with your head?

Thanks you very much.  Your answers are very much appreciated!
				--Charles Chiu
From: mt0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mary E. Tyler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: mailing list
Keywords: ballroom, mailing list
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:09:01 GMT
Reply-To: "Mary E. Tyler" <mt0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: None
Gatewayed-From: ballroom@athena.mit.edu

could you please add me to the mailing list

dejahvu@aol.com

thanks, meri
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Re: Night Club Two Step Query
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:01:27 PDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Oct7.201506.6794@cirrus.com>, dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi) writes:
> Buddy Schwimmer teaches quick-quick-slow as the *basic dance phrase*.
> But if I remember correctly, the slow in his quick-quick-slow occurs
> count 1 of the 8-count music phrase.

Um, that's not the way I remember him "calling" it at Dance Camp. 

But no matter... 

> So if you begin dancing on count 1, you would actually begin on the
> slow with a side step.
> 
> Here's a reacp of the way I recommend it, which I believe matches
> Buddy Schwimmer's way.
> 
> count:     1      2        3       4          5        6      7     8     1
> beat:      slow            quick-  quick      slow            quick-quick slow
> phrasing:  two             three-  and        four            one-  and   two
> 
> In almost every pattern in two-step, the strongest lead is on the
> one-and-TWO, which thus should fall on the strongest beat of music, which
> is on count 1.  For example, left turn for the man would be:
> 
>        check-step-forward      side- cross-side
>        one-  and- TWO          three- and- four
> -- 
> Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@cirrus.com>
> also: dhesi@rahul.net

You are alluding here to something else which needs to be mentioned:  In your
first chart you're showing that a complete, er, cycle (S, Q-Q S, Q-Q) (or Q-Q
S, Q-Q S; either way) in eight music beats, while in your second, you're doing
it in just four.  Indeed many slow songs lend themselves to the second timing.

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
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