From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: CONTRADICTIONS
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:39:47 GMT

In article <C04qqt.56D@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu> ctrcsa@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris S. Arnold) writes:
>
>>>In article..(Re: Long Haired Man)...sco@aero.org (Stacey C. O'Brien) writes:
>....DELETED......
>>>The stuff about Samson is good (silly that you would even have to talk
>>>to people about this - it's really none of their business how you wear
>>>your hair. People like that are just trying to be controlling and
>>>manipulative. Next thing you know they'll be telling you what career
>>>to have and who to marry! sheesh!).......I REALLY hope you don't get 
>>>pushed around by these people becasue GOD has a plan for your life and 
>>>it's probably nothing like what they assume it "should" be. We're each 
>>>unique and created with certain talents and tastes, and instead of 
>>>fighting that and trying to be what someone else is comfortable with - 
>>>we should be who we really are, reach people we can really reach, 
>>>express what we can really express, and live fully and freely in the 
>>>light of God's love and truth. All this nitpicking is for the birds.....
>
>	I think the above is very well stated, but look at an earlier reply.
>IS THIS THE SAME PERSON???????????????/
>
>In article <1hsl3mINNo1f@news.aero.org> sco@aero.org (Stacey C. O'Brien) also writes:
>>>>HA! Are you guys nuts or something? Obviously we shouldn't even be
>>>READING a bible, since we have leaders who should disciple us in
>>>all authority - we'd better submit too, or we have a spirit of
>>>rebellion! - ?
>>>ANYTHING about scripture? If a person comes up to you and declares
>>>him/her self to have authority over you and says "You'd better submit!"
>>>then, You'd Better Submit! Forget this Bible stuff and do what that
>>>person tells you to do, like wash their car to learn servanthood,
>>>stuff like that. Sheesh! Also, Our Leaders can tell us who to marry,
>>>how to worship, but most importantly, how to serve them better and
>>>be more pleasing to them. So the main goal of Christianity, as I see
>>>it, isn't all this Bible and prayer balderdash. It's really about
>>>making our leaders feel good about themselves....
>
>	What's wrong with this picture.  You can't tell this guy with 
>long-hair not to pay attention to what the people in the church say about
>his hair and then on the other side say "...If a person comes up to you and declares
>him/her self to have authority over you and says "You'd better submit!"
>then, You'd Better Submit!  This isn't right.  This is a contradiction if I ever
>seen one!!

I agree with you!!!  I hate it when people talk out of both sides of 
their mouth!!!!!!

You appear to be a newbie here, Chris.  A lot of us have worked out
a set of very painstaking guidelines to help in interpreting articles
on this newsgroup.  Maybe this will help in interpreting Stacey's
articles:

1) Assume that every word written here is intended to be taken absolutely
seriously.  If somebody writes, "Jesus was a blue, three-headed native 
of Jupiter," assume that they're theologically and astronomically
deficient, and correct their errors.

2) Condemn humor, sarcasm, satire, hyperbole, and irony wherever you
find it.  This subtle form of heresy has crept into the church, and
occasionally manifests itself on this newsgroup.  Exhort the 
wiseacres to repent, and pray for them.  They need it.

3) Continually point out the poor witness of Christians who disagree
with one another.   This happens all the time on this newsgroup, and
man, it can drive you crazy.  Imagine how sad Jesus must feel when
He sees people who have different opinions.  Rebuke those who think 
differently than you, and pray that they might come to the knowledge
of The Truth.  These people need to be convicted and become one in
Christ.

4) Be sure to mention Amy Grant, George Bush, Bill Clinton, gays,
U2, Bill Gothard, the King James Version (the only True Bible) and Carman, 
preferably all in the same posting.  Mentioning all 8 in a single
paragraph earns you the coveted "Net Saint" (or "Net God," on the
secular newsgroups) award.  Five or more gets you a free subscription
to "The Watchtower."  Three or more gets you two free subscriptions to 
"Awake."

5) Remember that rec.music.christian is made up of people from every
Christian denomination.  Most of these denominations are in error, and quite 
a few qualify as cults.  You can't be too careful.  If you feel that
constant exposure to heretical thinking may damage your walk with
God, don't read.  Instead, just post little salvos every few
weeks or so, exhorting people to be baptized backwards in the name
of Jesus *only* and to avoid music played on brass instruments.  
They may not listen, but it won't be your fault.  Remember, Satan
has blinded the eyes of this world.  Don't cast your pearls before
swine.  Shake the dust off your feet.  Extend to them the right foot 
of disfellowship.  Twirl around three times, then turn off your computer.  
You'll feel better, and it will be good for your cardiovascular system
too.

If you keep these ideas in mind, I'm sure you'll fit right in.  Welcome
aboard.  

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