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From: tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: LA Surfers
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:46:13 GMT
Organization: TRW Financial Systems

In article <1992Aug11.195054.2435@nic.csu.net> mtemple@calstatela.edu writes:
>   I live  10 min south of Pa sa da na  
>   and go to the oc beaches. 45 min to goldenwest and pch. free parking
>   decent beach break, relatively uncrowded and low key
>   the piers attract the dudes w/ tudes but who cares? there are miles
>   of break.  
>   and for a really good time, make the effort for trestles,churches,
>   and old mans down at san `nof nuke.  
>   
>    there are about 5 of us here at cal state la who surf,
>    most of us are spongers with a couple of hard boards for fun
>     
>      usually go play on thurs mornings @ 8:00 till ?
> 
>         e-mail mtemple@calstatela.edu
>
>         stay wet 
>                         mark temple
>

Bolsa Chica is also a fun break, mostly for long boarders and spongers.
Down at the end, around station 17. 
The surfers there are mellow and are used to beginning flailers. But it's
6$ to get in to park, unless you get there before 7am, which is usually
when the gate people get there. I just get a year pass to all the state
parks. Gets me into SanO, Bolsa, etc. I think they're about $70/year now.

Your sign off "stay wet" reminds me of a personalized licence plate
I wanted to get 4evrWet.... appropriate for me since I've spent most
of me life in pools all over the world, and lately, in oceans. But,
being female, I figured someone would interpret it wrong. So, I chickened out.

	-T
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Telnet Weather Service
From: mtemple@calstatela.edu (Mark Temple 12-10-90)
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:08:58 PDT
Reply-To: mtemple@calstatela.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles

 Aug 20  saw a posting from Brian K  re: telnet weather setup

 i tried the service but was stopped by the passwd
  kept getting  somthin' to the effect of 
        "login # 3004-07,  entered bad acct# or passwd" 

  didn't have time to try to hack it, ( besides, don`t want to annoy`
  such a nice resource). is it public or private?

   am interested in usin this service, can you post/send more info?

  LA sponger                       mtemple@calstatela.edu
                       
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: rvele@ctp.com (Raymond Velez)
Subject: when to surf
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:59:08 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners


I was just wondering when is a good time to surf on the east coast.
Thank.  I mean the time of day.
                   ray
.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest)
Subject: Re: Worst Wipeouts
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:55:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.185412.24456@nas.nasa.gov> leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
>As far as worst wipeouts go, mine was on a sponge.  It was at Francis
>state beach (in Half Moon Bay) the day of the big fire in Oakland last
>October.  The waves were really clean and hollow (I suspect there was
>a really good offshore because of the fires), maybe head high,
>but closing out, and it was getting towards low tide so they were 
>churning up the bottom.
Wrong causality.  The fire got out of control largely due to the hot
dry winds coming in from the Central Valley.  The firestorm would have
created an onshore wind as it sucked wind into the fire.  I live near
that beach and noticed the wind that day (even before I heard about the
fire).  An offshore isn't rare, but a very hot strong one is.  Too bad
I was with relatives that day, didn't know the surf got real good.

On another topic: Just got my first newsletter from Surfrider Foundation.
Lots of interesting articles in it.  One neat point was from an Indonesian
official about why they like surfing tourists.  The basic point was that
surfers are willing to stay in the local hotels and eat the local food
so their money goes directly into the local economy where it is most
needed.  The richer tourists stay in the big resorts which provides some
help to the economy but the profits go overseas.

Andy
From: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surf Reports
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:48:56 GMT
Reply-To: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, muettert@husc10.harvard.edu (Mark Muetterties) says:

>	Surfing the Beltway:  I'm going to Washington soon for a conference
>		and was wondering about surf spots near there and how long
>		a drive it would be. 
>
>-Mark
>


Mark, first off thanks for the East Coast report.  I think any (all?) surfers
here appreciate hearing about your excursions, whether it's a one dayer 
of for a whole month!  I know I enjoy hearing about east coast surfers and
their sessions.
 
As far as surf by the Beltway.  I usually hit Ocean City, MD which is approx.
a 3 hour drive.  Virginia Beach is aobut 3 1/2 hours away.  Southern Jersey
about 3 3/4 to 4 hour drive.  A long haul, but definitely worth it for surf!
So be sure to call before you go (1900976SURF) #6 in REPORTS/FORECASTS
for MD/DEL/VA.  I could leave you some surf shop numbers from the shore also.
 
 
As far as bodyboarders:  I think they should be welcomed to this group.  It's
not like it's too crowded here on the net (although sometimes it is in
the water!)  Surfers have so much in common with bodyboarders, why let 
the standup/laydown controversy ruin our common love for the ocean?  I love 
to hear some surf reports from them.  I'm sure lots of surfers enjoy
bodyboarding also.
 
				L8tr,
					Derek
					wojciech@ossek.nrl.navy.mil
 
	----- Pray for Surf! -----
From: hayes@valkris.aero.org (Brian Hayes 74-35 x65129)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: LA Surfers
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:04:34 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, EDSG

In article <1992Aug15.230007.122@massey.ac.nz> P.B.Halverson@massey.ac.nz (P.B. Halverson) writes:

>I'm surprised you don't know that many (all?) the coastal cities in 
>SoCal dispose a portion (up to 100%) of treated sewage into the sea.  If 
>rains threaten the treatment plants, raw sewage is dumped into the sea.  
>Usually beaches are closed for a time, but how long does it take for it 
>to be "safe" again?

I'd say it only takes a couple of days.

BTW, the water was off limits from Dockwiler (sp?) to Venice this last 
weekend (at least on Sat).  High bacteria counts.  Source: Balona Creek
(but, suposidly not due to known treatment plants).

The Santa Monica bay is notoreous for sewage spills.  The Hyperion (between,
Dockwiler and El Porto) sewage treatment plant overflows atleast once a
year due to rain.

Well, who knows...maybe I'll catch a sinus infection this afternoon. :(

Brian

-- 
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| (310) 616-5129	|  person's design." - I.A.Pirbahi	|
| hayes@hac2arpa.hac.com| <standard disclaimer here>		|
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Worst Wipeouts
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:00:54 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

I saw a guy get a skeg up his ass one. 

"No shit !"

Mike

Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: P.B.Halverson@massey.ac.nz (P.B. Halverson)
Subject: Re: LA Surfers
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:00:07 GMT

clp,

I'm surprised you don't know that many (all?) the coastal cities in 
SoCal dispose a portion (up to 100%) of treated sewage into the sea.  If 
rains threaten the treatment plants, raw sewage is dumped into the sea.  
Usually beaches are closed for a time, but how long does it take for it 
to be "safe" again?

Nose and ear plugs look kookish, but can prevent considerable 
discomfort.

Cheers,

Phil
From: mtemple@calstatela.edu (Mark Temple)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Callin' all Zen Surf Masters
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:05:08 GMT
Reply-To: mtemple@calstatela.edu
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles

> About a month ago I rented "Point Break" 

Midwest boy rides two-up on an overhead tube at night two weeks after learning 
to surf. yah right,  for a kick, time the freefall sequence and figure
out how high they would have to have started from, (Hint, some where above 
oxygen mask range).  Rent a real surf movie like wave warriors, rolling thunder

> Is surfing truly different from other sports?  Is there Something More to it
> than just paddlin' out into the surf and ridin' back in?

nope, that's it. paddle out ride in paddle out ride in, eat sleep paddle out ...

> Is it possible to dump your sappy eastern US, software designer job, go out
> to surf mecca and live like a native for the rest of you life?

oh, yah. in these economic times it`s a real possibility that you man get 
dumped from your job and end up being a bum anyway. why not be a surf bum.

> Bottom line.  How does surfing affect the inner man?  Or does it at all?

 gennerally it affects the inner ear and sinuses

LA sponger
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Worst Wipeouts
Summary: My own sad tale!!!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:13:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.185412.24456@nas.nasa.gov>, leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
> In article <rozental.26.713713899@cc.und.ac.za> rozental@cc.und.ac.za (Nathan Rosentals) writes:
> >So what was your worst wipeout ?  Anybody read the article, and know what 

I was down at Blacks on a big, cold, winter day.  Beautiful sunshine
disquised the fact that the some pretty mean sets were rising up
to meat the canyon wall and come crashing in.  Actually
it was a pretty typical winter day at Blacks, lots and lots of
fun! =>  
	Truth be told this isn't a wipe out story, but a near death
experience.  I had just caught a wave in and as I was paddling
back out a large set came through.  
I had a hood stuffed in the back of my wetsuit in case I 
started to get cold and when I ducked under the first wave
my wetsuit decided to cut off the blood flow to my brain.
No kidding, my carotids were constricted.
I'm not really sure what happened then as I blacked out.
I imagine I was tumbled around and around, through the ol'
washin' machine.  The first thing I remember was coming up
to the surface and thinking.  
"Why is the horizon sideways?"
My legs and arms didn't work and my board was what seemed
like miles away(about three feet at that point).
I remember thinking I better get that board before
that next, huge, crashing wall of water gets here.
The fact that I am telling this tale today answers 
that thought.  I made it to my board.  Thankfully.
Fool that I was, as soon as the set was over I
paddled back out and caught a few more waves.
I guess I was in some sort of shock, cause I didn't
realize how close I came to ending it all until later
that day.

Any how that's my sad tale.
tod
ps no time to spell check as the waves are calling.


-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
Tod Critchlow(tcritchl@ucsd.edu)      |  What the Hell is a
Univ of Calif, San Diego              |  Signature anyways??
Scripps Institution of Oceanography   |
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: surfing on TV
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:03:50 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Aug20.203420.2492@nic.csu.net> mtemple@calstatela.edu writes:
(Stuff about gnarly wipeouts deleted)

Aparently they cover the concrete in rubber matting to lessen
the pain of a wipe out (Yeah, right).

The LA Times had an article on the guy who invented the thing. I was
going so summarize it, but I think it has been recycled by now.

Mike
"A Brit in Yank land"
From: wamb@aifh.ed.ac.uk (W W Vasconcelos)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: surfer magazine address
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:10:55 GMT
Reply-To: wamb@aifh.ed.ac.uk (W W Vasconcelos)
Followup-To: wamb@aisb.ed.ac.uk
Organization: Dept of AI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland


Is there any good soul who could send me the address of Surfer 
Magazine (for some voyeurism :-). 

Thanks in advance and ciao

W

PS Maybe it would be better to reply to my e-address instead of 
using the news group.
From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf report for Bells
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:51:24 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia


Date:		Thursday 20th Aug.
Time:		7:45 am
Area:		Bell's Beach area, Torquay, Australia 
Weather:	Fine & sunny but cccollld
Winds:		Offshore 15,20 knots
Air temp:	about 8 C
Water temp:	about 10 C
Surf:		Sets from 1.5 overhead to around 2.5 overhead,
		swell is a bit uneven, but perfect faces, not too
		crowded yet, about 15 guys at Winkie, and 3 at Bells

Forecast:	Wind may go sideshore -onshore later in the day

Comments:	I'm posting reports instead of surfing :-(.

Cheer's all, keep surfing
Lud.
From: kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: On Zen and bad movies ...
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:01:58 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP

Man I got alot of feedback on 'Callin' all Zen Surf masters'.  Thanx to all
who responded.  There seem to be several re-occuring themes:

1) 'Point Break' sux as a surfing movie.

Yeah well, I grew up on the Gulf Coast.  Spent tons of time on the beach but
I've never seem true surfing.  To me 'Point Break' struck a cord.  Maybe it
wasn't all that realistic but I still liked it.  The tragedy of the story I
quess.  Anyway thanx for the other movie suggestions.

2) Surfing is different from other sports.  Maybe not really a 'sport' at all.

Almost everybody agreed on this one.  The general feeling I got was that the
natural aspects of the ocean coupled with infinite variety are the keys to that
difference.  Makes sense.

3) There are things about surfing that ain't real positive.  Pollution, crowd-
   ing, aggressive surfers, health problems with EN&T etc.

Well, three of the four are concerns.  As for aggressive surfers ... I'm 6'2''
225 lbs and generally folks don't try me and I don't try them.  But for those
who do, once is ALWAYS enough.

4) It is possible to dump everything and take up a life of surfing.  But it
   ain't easy.

Yeah, I figured.  Really I was hopin' to get a response from someone who had
done something like that.  You know, flushed his (her) old UMC life and
turned to a life of following the waves.

5) Surfing affects different people differently.  But it does affect ya.

The answers here were interesting.  This was the most important question that
I posed.  I got enough hobbies.  I'm looking for something more.  I'm 29
years old.  I'm at a point where I either have to stop wearin' lycra shorts,
T-shirts and sunglasses to work, and put on a suit and tie, or change what
I do for a living.  I mean the Machine wants you to grow up and take on
responsibility, but the consequences are ugly.  I know, cause I tried it.
Recked my relationship with my lady, affected my health, everything.  I just
can't feature it.  It's like I'm on a runaway train and I gotta get off.
Maybe surfin' could be part of the answer.  It's still unclear in my mind.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanx again for all the response.

KimmyD
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Vid's.
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:00:44 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

mtemple@calstatela.edu (Mark Temple) writes:

>> About a month ago I rented "Point Break" 
>oxygen mask range).  Rent a real surf movie like wave warriors, rolling thunder

Rolling Thunder:
That's the one we watched at Torquay Pub(remember it Lud?) .It has Rob Page ,
who's a character from this area.(I actually met him once (for what it's worth)


Bunyip Dreaming is one I really and truly like and reccomend.
Mainly because I won it in a competition.
Get it out if you see it

Bye,
N.
-- 
Women need to find the right partner to have sex (and sometimes the right
excuse),Men just need to find the right place.
From: g9023690@cc.uow.edu.au (Philip Secker)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Dropping in
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:07:13 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

danny@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (Danny Z Clark) writes:

>Sure, you can try to get us (bodyborders) off of alt.surfing, but it will
>never work! There are too many of us. If you try to move us we will all
>drop in on you at once!!!

>                                Danny

Actually, stand-up surfers are as much at fault in the dropping in department
as bodyboarders.  I seem to get dropped in on by stand-up surfers fairly
regularly.  This seems to be due to the surfers not believing I will make
the wave, so they take it and I'm left with the garden hose in the face, if
you fellow bbder's know what I mean.

From a body-BOREDER

PS

PPS.  Not much happening in Wollongong - a Southerly low failed to produce
anything other than chest high waves on Sunday (East Corrimal).

-- 
=============================================================================
Philip Secker, Elec & Comp Eng. University of Wollongong, NSW 2500, Australia
EMAIL:	secker@uow.edu.au
PH:     +61 42 213785
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: P.B.Halverson@massey.ac.nz (P.B. Halverson)
Subject: Re: surfing on TV
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:21:08 GMT

There was a write-up in a recent (for new zealand) "Tracks" magazine 
about the artificial wave you're talking about.  A big pump shoots water 
up a specially sculpted incline to form the wave.  The article stated 
that the size and shape of the "surf" could be varied with pump 
pressure.

I surfed the wave pool in Phoenix, Arizona some years (12!) ago and 
found that bailing off your board can be a painful experience - 12 
inches of water over a concrete bottom near the shore.  Think of the 
wipeout possibilities with just a few inches of water.

Cheers,

Phil
From: hayes@valkris.aero.org (Brian Hayes 74-35 x65129)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: LA Surfers
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:10:10 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, EDSG

In article <1992Aug11.195054.2435@nic.csu.net> mtemple@calstatela.edu writes:

>Up here in Pasadena, there aren't a whole lot of people who surf,
>or at least, who know how to surf. And we're only 30 minutes away 
>from Topanga or the south bay. (when there's no traffic!) That's 

It has been great working and living only 5 to 15 minutes away from
El Porto and Venice.  I tell you, it is a rough life when I can easily
put in 30-45 minutes of surf during my lunch break.  So far I haven't 
mutated :^) and no sinus infections .... yet! :(

Brian

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| Brian Hayes		| "One person's requirement is another	|
| (310) 616-5129	|  person's design." - I.A.Pirbahi	|
| hayes@hac2arpa.hac.com| <standard disclaimer here>		|
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: mxl38@po.CWRU.Edu (Michel Labrousse)
Subject: Who sings "no surf in Cleveland, USA"?
Reply-To: mxl38@po.CWRU.Edu (Michel Labrousse)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 16:55:31 GMT


Hey, don't kill me, I'm not a surfer (I'm a windsurfer), but I'm stuck in
Cleveland and I'd really like to get this song that I've heard on radio
released in 1979. The problem is I didn't catch the name of the band.

	If any dudu knows about it... Thanks!
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz)
Subject: Re: Callin' all Zen Surf Masters
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:33:19 GMT

In <3771@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.174807.5322@brtph560.bnr.ca> kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Is it possible to dump your sappy eastern US, software designer job, go out
>>to surf mecca and live like a native for the rest of you life?
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

>Can't speak for USA but in Oz it's definitely possible, the
>unemployment benefit's are sufficient for a group to get together,
>rent a house and do nothing else but surf, well almost nothing else,
>Nigel could probably elaborate on that :-).

YES! Please elaborate. This sounds like the ideal life for me. Ireland's
a bit cold though so I'll have to get my degree first and then leave.

Thanks,

Judge Raz

redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie  |    ~~~    |  You got my body now you want my soul 
Donncha Redmond        |    o-o    |  Now can't have none of that 
National Swim Team     |     ^     |  Tell her whatta say Mace 
Ireland		       |    `-'    |  Say no go		-- De La Soul
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: surfing on TV
From: mtemple@calstatela.edu (Mark Temple 12-10-90)
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:34:19 PDT
Reply-To: mtemple@calstatela.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles

In article 10139@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au, s1139457@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (ERLS (Erland Briggs)) writes:
> Yo guys/gals,
>   > 
>  >         This was when I noticed it was an ARTIFICIAL WAVE.  I'm not sure how
>         it was done, but it looked stationary.  It appeared that there was a
>         downhill run of water (over concrete) which bounced off a wall or
>         something similar.  The water bouncing off the wall formed the barrel.
>         It looked really cool, but would have been a hell wipeout!!
> 
>         Didn't anybody else see this???? It didn't catch the name of the video
>         it was from, but I think it would be cool to find out how it was
>         actually done!
>         Check-ya L8r.
>         Erls.
> 
> 
  It sounds like you got a glimps of Schlitterbahn in Tejas, near San Antonio

  It is just what you described, water washing up a wall to generate an 8 ft.
   wave.  It's in the current issue of BIM, (bodyboarding intermational mag.)

    Mike Stewert (who else) managed to be the  first to launch 
      an off the lip rollo and land in 4 inches of water. 
    
      LA sponger
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: Re: alt.waves
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:16:15 GMT

In article <23674@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian  
Kiviat) writes:
> In alt.surfing, Axman writes:
> >Hi guys,
> >
> >Can anyone out there tell me what the alt.waves newsgroup is
> >all about? There is no information available on it, and
> >it seems that no one has ever posted anything on it. At least
> >not in the area.
> >
> >A-propos waves, how come doesn't anybody post surf reports?
> 
> Yo Axman, I have never seen anthing there either, it is a great unknown.
> 

I posted a similiar question a few months back, got no responses, and kept  
an eye on the group to see what it's for... You're gonna love this...I  
think the group is for people who want to "wave" to eachother.  As in "to  
wave hello"... pretty stupid, huh?  I say we make a hostile takeover, and  
start cross-posting there <Evil grin>! ... 'maybe turn it into a group for  
the sponge-boarders, body surfers, and wind-surfers!

Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Callin' all Zen Surf Masters
From: P.B.Halverson@massey.ac.nz (P.B. Halverson)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:07:11 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

One good wave makes me incredibly, stupidly happy for days.

Cheers,

Phil