From: ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: sridhar and wpi
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:52:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:
|> 
|> Nonsense. It suffices to say that you are plain wrong. Take it to
|> comp.mail.sendmail and the same expert who answered me over email will
|> be happy to answer it for you there. Don't insult the intelligence of
|> other people just because you don't know.

and then says:
|> You can even try breaking
|> a TV or VCR you know. Ofcourse that is not what it is meant for. This
|> doesn't change the fact that our machines are firmly protected against
|> such a childish thing.

	well i guess i dont need to reply. anyone familiar with
	family life will be aware that TVs and VCRs get broken
	all the time by children. now this (or previous articles)
	does not imply any such intention on my part. i have no
	desire to play with your system. whether this establishes
	the lack of adoloscence in me is another question!

|> Please post the definitions of humour, individual etc. from your lexicon for
|> everyone's benefit. Thanks.

	ok. i will say this once for your benefit. you posted a
	kill file for killing all articles from wpi.edu overlooking
	the fact that there are 3500 students who go to school
	here (of which there are > 100 indian students) who you
	essentially advocate to boycott. you chose not to provide
	reasons behind your policing intentions (however limited
	their success may be). let me try and guess: you are
	affected by:

	1. the politically incorrect use of language in suresh
	   doki's posts.
	2. your failure to appreciate any attempts at humour on my
	   part.

	the first one is a question of netiquette and how you
	interpret it or how to handle unmoderated newsgroups. the
	second point, as a justification for your efforts, stands
	on even weaker grounds. (udumudi, the only other person who
	posts from wpi,  does not seem to enter the picture since
	he has been succesful in avoiding controversy). with such
	justification behind you (or other undisclosed ones maybe)
	you choose to advice people to kill all articles from wpi,
	where it would be trivial for you to construct an author
	kill for the two of us, if *you* did not want to read our
	articles.

	i really do not care a hoot if people read my articles or
	not. but your behaviour above smacks of:

	1. a total lack of a sense of humour and tolerance.
	2. a sad lack of the ability to differentiate between
	   individuals and organizations, and use of such in
	   generalizations.
	3. attempted policing of an unmoderated newsgroup.

	while at the best you could state that the kill file was
	a suggestion that people are free to take or leave, that
	still does not absolve you of such trivial intentions.
	whether people do take your "advice" or not is a matter
	of little relevance. you have time and again demonstrated
	your desire to be considered a benign godfather for this
	newsgroup, and i guess you have every right to success
	along that line... just apply some common sense in such
	endeavours.

|> Disclaimer: Sure, I learned a lot more about you from this discussion
|> which confirmed my opinion about your postings on comp.unix.questions,
|> alt.fractals and not the least of it all, news.groups. Thanks. I am
|> very much enlightened. Goodbye to all *.wpi.edu postings.

	very interesting... the good ol' "i know you from other
	newsgroups" ploy! lets see, i posted one article on
	alt.fractals suggesting an interesting book on fractals
	(hardly controversial.... in fact good enough to elicit
	a response from the author clifford pickover). i posted
	an answer to comp.unix.questions which was partially
	incorrect (and works fine on some implementations of
	unix). hardly anything to provide you ammunition to
	address snide commentary at me... that leaves us with
	news.groups where i participated in two wars: one of
	them the famous s.c.i.a war where i argued against the
	altruistic motives of mr.martinez (who later lost his
	calm, called me a dog, and seemed to be getting along
	well into making a fool of himself when i last involved
	myself in the issue), and also argued against the concept
	that the name was wrong: i am indian and if columbus made
	a mistake that does not take away from my identity. if
	people find the name indian.american confusing they
	better go read their history again!!! (or geography for
	that matter). that some people chose to believe that i
	was arguing alongside alok vijayvargia is a misconception
	that i had no part in perpetrating. that leaves me with
	one more war on news.groups: the rec.motorcycles.harley
	war, of which, i would venture to guess, you have no
	understanding.

	next time you try slinging mud, try some substantiation.

	peace,

	- ravi

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