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From: lwb@cs.utexas.edu (Lance W. Bledsoe)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Query: Document on AIDS as a biotech mistake?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:48:18 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

In article <C0M0sJ.M8q@iat.holonet.net> timper@iat.holonet.net (Tim Perkis) writes:
>I'm looking for a document which I've heard exists but never have seen.
>Supposedly an(East) German biochemist wrote a technical report on why
>he thought HIV was a synthetic virus. 

I have a transcript of a talk by Dr. Struecker (sp) that is similar to 
this.  I will re-post it sometime soon (I posted it appx. 1 year ago).

Lance


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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer)
Subject: Re: The Blessings of MULTICULTURALISM
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:10:35 GMT

> U19807@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <93004.154249U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
> Posted: Monday, 4 Jan 1993 15:42
>
> Org.  : University of Illinois at Chicago
>
> In article <C0C66B.96w@ddsw1.mcs.com>, arf@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling)
> says:
> .
> > I frequently get called all sorts of names for being less
> > than enthusiastic about our so-called "multicultural
> > society".  Here is a good example of the blessing it brings
> > to our once peaceful country.....
>
> > (supposed "example" of "multiculturalism" deleted)
>
> > To believe that multiculturalism somehow improves our
> > society is just plain liberal mush.  What sort of blessing
> > is it to force our police officers to hide from "Hispanic"
> > barbarians when they should be out on the streets?
>
> Well,Jack,I had you pegged wrongly as a racist. You can now feel safe
> from that charge. You're a racist _idiot_.


ALL racists are idiots.

I have yet to hear or read anything from a racist that defended racism with
any hint of intelligence, thought or even sanity.  Read _Mein Kampf_ and tell
me it isn't just the moronic ravings of a pathetic failed painter languishing
around in a jail cell.

I have yet to see a post from ARF that makes the slightest bit of sense and
isn't filled to the brim with spelling, grammar and logic errors.  (I am not
one to flame occasional errors of this type, but one sentence of his had five
spelling mistakes and two grammatical errors, yet was only seven words long!)

If anyone is interested I have quite a collection of some of ARF's most
ludicrous net.quotes.  Now that Dan Quayle is gone, we need someone to laugh
at and ridicule.


--
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---------------| unemployed former James Bond villains enraged at the fall
aka THE JAGUAR!| of Communism in the Soviet Union."
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic,new.age,at.alien.visitors
From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
Subject: Stalinist Attack!
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:16:19 GMT





Jan 7, 1993

Jack Sarfatti
2000 Broadway
Apt 406
San Francisco, CA 94126
(415) 885 5194


Letters to the Editor
Chronicle

Logical Confusion

I wish to respond to Zalmon Oberstein's ridiculous charge that I am an
anti-Semite that you published under "Moral Confusion" in today's
Chronicle.

Stalinist propaganda may be fast disappearing in Russia but it is evidently
alive and well in San Francisco in the hands of Mr. Oberstein who displays
the predictable communist Orwellian disregard for truth and logic.

It is clear from the context of my Dec 31 letter "Applause for Bush" that I
deplore the Nazi racial laws as "unjust" and that I am defending "justice"
and the Constitution's "balance of power". I compare Judge Walsh to the
Grand Inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition who persecuted my ancestors,
the cultured Jews of Toledo and Granada.  I call Walsh a "dangerous
fanatic" which Mr.Oberstein maliciously twists into anti-Semitism!

For the record: the name "Sarfatti" is a well known Italian-Jewish name
meaning "France" with a Family Crest given by the Doge on a wall of the
Synagogue in Venice, Italy.  Samuel Sarfatti was personal physician to Pope
Julius II and a friend and teacher to Michelangelo.

Sincerely


Jack Sarfatti
From: pmckenna@unix1.tcd.ie (P.J. McKenna)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Safeguards in the use of Nuclear Weapons
Keywords: Nuclear, Fail-Safe
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:35:56 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (student)

In <C0o9II.I86@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> kirby@pyramid.cs.unr.edu (Stephen Kirby) writes:

>From Stephen Kirby <kirby@pyramid.cs.unr.edu>



>	I was curious as to how the military, in ALL nuclear powers,
>prevents individuals from firing nuclear tipped missiles. I am asking
>for my own piece of mind because for every deterent I can think of, I
>can also think of a way to circumvent it.

>Steve

>[mod note -- at least in the USAF, it is impossible for a crew to launch an
>ICBM without certain steps are taken.  These are from memory, and may be
>slightly different than actually listed.
 [Moderator lists delailed steps, deleted here.]

>Much design went into the design of the safeguards of SAC's nuclear force
>to prevent an accidental release.  Movies such as _War Games_, _Twilight's
>Last Gleaming_, and _Dr. Strangelove_ are fiction, and don't bear much
>resemblance to the real thing.

>Steve]
>act

Did you see _Fail-safe_? An error in the SAC computer ( such as it
was at the time ) caused the B52s to be sent to attack their targets
but they were later recalled when the fault is discovered. However
one of the bombers is damaged by a near miss by a nuclear SAM and
cannot receive the recall orders. Moscow, and then New York in
atonement, is nuked by the U.S.

Is this senario possible with the safeguards now in place? There was a
message from the Govt. to the effect that there was no possability of it 
happening.
	
	Yours,
	      P.J. Mc Kenna
--
  I, alone, am personally responsible for the opinions expressed above, except 
      where indicated otherwise. (Then again I may have been brainwashed.)
		     P.J. Mc Kenna - pmckenna@unix1.tcd.ie  
	  The voices in my head told me to come over and talk to you.
--
  I, alone, am personally responsible for the opinions expressed above, except 
      where indicated otherwise. (Then again I may have been brainwashed.)
		     P.J. Mc Kenna - pmckenna@unix1.tcd.ie  
	  The voices in my head told me to come over and talk to you.
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
From: squirrel@world.std.com (Publius)
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:21:44 GMT

In article <C0G7Lo.4GE.1@cs.cmu.edu> tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price) writes:
>
>Matthew 27:24-25
>
>	When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather 
>	a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the 
>	multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person:
>	see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be
>	on us, and on our children.

I don't understand your purpose of quoting this passage ...
But, anyway, the crowd mentioned in this passage must be the pro-Roman
partisans of the Roman-appointed high priest.   The fact they could
shout in unison is indicative of two things:

(1) The crowd wasn't very large, probabily not beyond several hundreds,
    if not smaller.  A large crowd can NOT shout in unison.

(2) The crowd was highly organized.   Only a highly organized crowd can
    shout in unison.

All evidences point to the Roman-appointed high priest as the organizer
of this small band of pro-Roman partisans (i.e. traitors to the Jewish
nation), who wanted to do away with Jesus simply because Jesus inspired
so much nationalistic sentiment, as evidenced by His triumphant entry
into the city of Jerusalem.  In this sense, Jesus died a nationalistic
hero of the Hebrews.  The nationalistic fever among the earliest
followers of Jesus is evident in the pages of the New Testament and
did not escape the notice of the scholars.  Some scholars, such as
Prof. Robert Eisenman (Cal. State U.) and Prof. Michael Wise (U.
Chicago), would even try to speculate on the link between the earliest
followers of Jesus and the Zealots (Reference: Biblical Archaeology
Review, January/Feburary 1993, pp. 60-61).  I would not go that far,
and in my view, the Divine Mission of Jesus was certainly misunderstood
by His nationalistic followers before His Crucifixion and Resurrection.
It was gradual process that His followers came to realize and comprehend
the significance of His Work and Person, and that His goal was beyond
just the restoration of the nation of Israel.  Anyway, my point is
that the earliest followers of Jesus exhibited strong nationalistic
fever, and it was this nationalistic fever, especially that outpouring
at His entry into Jerusalem, which greatly troubled the Roman-appointed
high priest and his pro-Roman partisans, who recognized the _potential_
of this nationalistic sentiment inspired by Jesus' messianic claim.
And I might add that Pilate, being a person who only recognized the
power of the sword, did not fully comprehend the _potential_ of the
messianic claim in the Jewish context, and thus did not treat Jesus
as a real threat.


Regards,
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13859 talk.politics.misc:66834 alt.president.clinton:1452
From: lwb@cs.utexas.edu (Lance W. Bledsoe)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: Execute Amy Fisher!!!
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:14:00 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

Why is it that when we have a government infested with tyrants and crooks,
all I hear is Amy Fisher, Amy Fisher, Amy Fisher...

Ok, I feel sorry for Mrs. Buttafoowhatever, but we're all going to get shot
in the head if we don't restore some order back to our Republic. (That's right
I said Republic, as in "...and to the Republic for which it stands, one 
nation under...").

Lance

PS - Do any of you guys remember voting to support the UN?  I can't
find the "UN" part in my copy of the Constitution...


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From: lggidden@eos.ncsu.edu (LARRY GRANT GIDDENS)
Subject: Re: MKULTRA and Lee Harvey Oswald
Originator: lggidden@c00525-106ps.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: MKULTRA JFK Lee Harvey Oswald
Reply-To: lggidden@eos.ncsu.edu (LARRY GRANT GIDDENS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:37:40 GMT


From the facts about the number of shots Lee Harvey Oswald and the type of gun
he was using, it is impossible to fire that many shots in a row a gun
that would have been required to stop a reload.
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: MK-ULTRA
Date: 5 Jan 1993 09:47:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


There is info on MK Ultra in the book "The Search for the Manchurian 
Candidate" by (Richard?) Marks. I recommend it highly.

-Steve
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:14007 alt.activism:20520 talk.religion.misc:26080 talk.politics.theory:5636 talk.politics.guns:26580
From: kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.religion.misc,talk.politics.theory,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: BOOK: "The Insiders" - part 3 of 4
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:53:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1ispuaINNcuu@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> lwb@cs.utexas.edu (Lance W. Bledsoe) writes:

> Clearly, George Bush may have resigned formal memberships in the CFR
> and TC in 1979, but his heart was still with both organizations.  On
> March 29,1981, only nine weeks after he took the oath of office as
> Vice President, he addressed a Trilateral Commission meeting held in
> Washington.  The next day was to have been the occasion of a meeting
> of Trilateral officials with President Reagan in the Oval Office.  But
> it had to be canceled because of John Hinckley's attempt on the
> President's life that very morning.

In fact, the assassination attempt on Reagan by Hinckley took place in
the afternoon (at around 2:30 PM EST if memory serves).
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Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13992 alt.atheism:25859 talk.politics.misc:67385
From: bungle@cellar.org (Sir Charles of Manson)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: CROP CIRCLES
Date: 4 Jan 93 04:11:25 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system


Can anyone tell me about Crop Circles?
Don't be shy.  Flood my box with mail.
I am ready.

Thank you.



------
Sir Charles of Manson               "I can never be in Love,
bungle@cellar.org                     because I am Love."

                   The Cellar BBS (215) 539-3043
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13737 talk.politics.misc:66291
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 15:32:59 GMT

In article <root.726159955@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:

>[alt.conspiracy removed, as I can't see how that group has anything to do ]
>[with the current conversation...                                         ]

Is this the start of another coverup? :-) 

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Subject: Re: Part 3,  LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell]
Keywords: LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell]
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:40:07 GMT


Be sure to include how Bush "lured" the Iraqi forces into Kuwait the last
couple of days..

What an idiot you appear to be...


Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism.d,misc.legal,alt.politics.bush,alt.president.clinton
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: Weinberger's Pardon
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:12:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.165342@IASTATE.EDU>, dickw@IASTATE.EDU (Richard
Wallingford) writes:

|>In article <1993Jan7.044609.23372@Princeton.EDU>, niepornt@bird.Princeton.EDU
|>(David Marc Nieporent) writes:
|>> In article <markp.725749195@dragonfly.wri.com> markp@dragonfly.wri.com
|>(Mark
|>Pundurs) writes:
|>
|>> >Charge #2. Bull! It's not clear that PROFITS from arms sales are
|>"government
|>> >	   funds; and the money was LEGALLY spent furthering foreign policy 
|>> >	   goals. (The much-ballyhooed Boland Amendment didn't apply to
|>> >	   the NSC -- and didn't enact any penalties for infractions.)
|>> 
|>> Whose funds could they possibly be besides the owners of the arms?  
|>
|>We weren't the owners anymore.  An intermediary was.  It was *their*
|>funds.
|>
|>>You mean, if I take your car and sell it, I can keep some of the money I
|>>sold it for?  How interesting.
|>
|>Wrong analogy.
|>
|>What the iran-contra trasaction means is that if I sell your car to
|>Ahmed, I have to give you *all* of the profits.  Now the car belongs 
|>to Ahmed.  Ahmed is now free to sell the car to a third world country
|>for 100 times what you got for it.  You may not like the fact that he
|>got rich while you didn't, but tough cookies. 

But that is not the correct annalogy. If I acting as an agent for another person
deliberately sell the car at a low price to an intermediary with the intention
that the intermediary use the profit in a certain way (eg give some back to me)
that is fraud. In the Iran-Contra scam, Ahmed was not acting as a free agent but
on instructions.

The introduction of an intermediary does not change the situation at all because
the intermediary was involved only to obscure the transaction, not as a genuine
third party.

Selling goods through dummy companies in order to misappropriate bogus "profits"
is a standard method used by fraudsters.




|>Last year I bought an AK-47 for $300 from a dealer and later re-sold it 
|>for $550 to a stranger at a gun show.  Neither the dealer, myself, nor
|>the stranger feel like anything fishy happened.

Arms dealer.


--

Phill Hallam-Baker
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.bush,alt.president.clinton
From: michael@neuron6.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Rivero)
Subject: Re: Execute Amy Fisher!!!
Organization: JPL Pasadena CA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:40:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.162320.17278@news.acns.nwu.edu> dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.150808.6452@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu
>(Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>
>>Need I say more?  We've got to do something about murderers!
>>
>She didn't actually kill anybody, but I must agree.  The punishment should fit
>the crime, and the fact that it seldom does in this country is the sole reason
>crime is now running rampant here.  Ferchrissakes!  Fisher beats a woman over
>the head with a gun, shoots her, and she's going to spend a few scant years in
>a cell and come out MAKING MONEY on the deal. 
>
>And who says crime doesn't pay......
>
  Even more bizarre is the fact that Mr. Buttufuco, the husband of
the woman who was shot, is facing statutory rape charges for having sex with Amy while Amy was underage. Because of the rape sheield laws, in which
a woman's past sexual activities are not admissable, the fact that Amy is 
a call girl with beeper and ads in the adult magazines doesn't count.
Even more bizarre is that Amy's reduced sentence is predicated on her promise
to testify against her former lover who, if convicted, will spend MORE time
in prison than will Amy.

  If you want a conspiracy to dissect, check out the 10 year media
camepeign, paid for my NOW and other feminist groups, to portray the
American male as a jerk who deserves little respect. The end result
can be seen on the current TIME magazine cover in
which the question is aksed why women should have to go to jail for killing abusive
husbands. 

  Anyone here recall the idea of presumption of innocence and a trial
by ones peers BEFORE being summarily executed?


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From: lwb@cs.utexas.edu (Lance W. Bledsoe)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: jbs
Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:44:26 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

In article <H9H2wB1w164w@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>Anybody who has claim to even the most rudimentary comprehension
>of the world know that that people such as the JBS, however much
>they may try to dress up their insane frothings, are to be, at best
>pitied, at worst, if we are to have violence in this world, then
>let it be used to rid the planet of such malignant ugliness as 
>they represent.

With all due respect; Obviously you don't understand what the JBS stands for.
Many of us just can't sit on the sidelines and watch our freedoms slowly
erroded by evil people and well-meaning zelots.  I would dare you to
take some time and read their message before you condem them.  I have
never met anyone that honestly studies their message, that thinks they
are like you claim.  Sometimes these people choose not to beleive, but
most all of them think that the JBSers hearts are in the right place.

Lance


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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.perot
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Gritz again
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:46:40 GMT

In article <1ime12INNoh0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
>
>NLG Civil Liberties Committee <cberlet@igc.apc.org> (Chip Berlet) writes:
>>I have several concerns regarding Gritz. He is a self-promoting 
>>huckster. He peddles theories that promote anti-Jewish bigotry 
>>and create fear of immigrants. He misrepresents his ties to 
>>fascist and race-hate groups and his support for Christian 
>>Identity. He promotes lunatic theories about government 
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>misconduct which undermine and discredit serious research and 
> ^^^^^^^^^
>>criticism of government misconduct.
>
>[Crocker's repetition of one of Gritz's loony conspiracy theories deleted.]

Of course, Ross Perot used this information from Gritz as an excuse to
have Richard Armitage followed, and harass him for his relationship with
his Asian girlfriend.

Anything Gritz says about POW's is bound to be suspect, given the
amount of money he has ripped off from families of MIA's in efforts
to "infiltrate" Cambodia across non-existent rivers to bring back
boxes of pig bones that he claims are those of American soldiers.

Steve should be much more skeptical.  
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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