HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tundra@eskimo.chi.il.us (Tundra Tim Daneliuk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs
Date: 20 Dec 92 05:08:37 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: TundraWare

>
> tundra@eskimo.chi.il.us (Tundra Tim Daneliuk) writes:
>
> >If anyone has taken a shot at porting GNU Emacs to COH 4.0, please contact
> >me.  I'd like to get it working and would be interested in collaborating
> >with anyone else working on this.
>
> I have it running (18.57) and have been using it for 4-5 weeks now and it is
> quite reliable (is that "fully tested" :-).
>
> It was quite a simple task to port it, basically coming up with the
> appropriate config file. Undump doesn't work yet but it doesn't take
> to long to load up the lisp (15-20 seconds on a 25Mhz 386) so that's
> not a real problem.
>
> This was my test of Coherent. If I couldn't get GNU emacs going, I would have
> ditched Coherent!
>
> If there is interest I could try to retrive the original 18.57 source and do
> diffs.
> --
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> Brian Wallis <brianw@philips.oz.au>          Phone: +61 3 8813576
> Philips Public Telecommunications Systems      Fax: +61 3 8813577
> Melbourne, Australia
>

Wonderful!  I have another person sending me disks of his 18.57 port, but
I'd really like a look at your diffs and config information.  I'd like to
take a shot at 18.59.

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: missing system calls
Keywords: 
Summary: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 11:59:24 GMT

I would like to collect a list of system calls which are missing in
COHERENT 4.0, but are available under System V.3. This list may
help a lot while porting programs from SV.3 to COHERENT. So if you
know about some missing system calls please mail me about them.
I'll collect all the stuff and post a collected list of what I get.
Thanks for your help!
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From: bfornshe@s850.mwc.edu (Ben John Fornshell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: I'm looking for a good UNIX ystem for my PC, is Minix any good?
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:17:05 -0500
Organization: Mary Washington College, CPSC Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: s850.mwc.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

     I would like to put up a machine that will run as a multi-user
system into which I can port GNU C code and use for general purposes on
on ethernet.  I was wondering what, if any OS's support these features,
and that will not cost a fortune (I'm a student) or that have educational
discounts.  Also, if I could find out any information on how well they
work, and how hard they are to install I would be most gratefull.

					 Thanks in advance,

					 bfornhse@s850.mwc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker)
Subject: Running f2c under Coh. 4.01
Distribution: world
Organization: Mallard Independent Mail and News, Leeds, UK
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:06:22 +0000

I'm keen to run Fortran 77 programs under Coherent 4.01 so I've
obtained and installed f2c (fortran to C converter) from raven.
However, although the program seems to convert f77 to C without
problems, the resulting C code won't compile - I get the message
"libF77.a: undefined symbol 'onexit' in module main.o", or
something similar.

I've recompiled both libF77.a and libI77.a on my machine without
problems, but the problem still remains. The person who ported
f2c to Coherent obviously had it running - what am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance,

Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: yav (yet another version) of f2c uploaded to raven
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:54:22 GMT

Mike Zanker found some bugs with PRINT *.  I have fixed them (very small, but 
important changes) and uploaded a new copy of f2c.coh.tar.Z to raven.

Hopefully this was the last bug.  It was related to the last bug I fixed in 
WRITEs to FORMATS.  I had forgotten that PRINT * generates its own format and I
needed to change that the same way that I changed fixed format statements.

Harry
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From: news@rvrcoh.UUCP (Cnews)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: test posting for to.dumbcat
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:44:47 GMT
Organization: RVRegucera
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Test post for to.dumbcat
From: root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Problems with cpio ?
Date: 13 Dec 92 06:14:34 GMT
Organization: RWSYS Exporter BBS system

dfilip@cathena.colornet.com () writes:
> 
> I rebooted (somehow the kernel became corrupt in memory ?), went into
> maintenance mode, ran the backup, and got some wierd filenames again ...
> only this time filenames that looked like C code that I had been writing !
> 
> Has anyone else seen anything like this ?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dave.
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> =   David E. Filip                UUCP   : dfilip@cathena.colornet.com      =
> =   ColorNet Information Systems  CIS    : 76430,3111                       =
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> =    If David Cutler had been a heavy drug user in the 60's, he probably    =
> =                    would have written Unix instead ...                    =
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> =   David E. Filip                UUCP   : dfilip@cathena.colornet.com      =
> =   ColorNet Information Systems  CIS    : 76430,3111                       =
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> =    If David Cutler had been a heavy drug user in the 60's, he probably    =
> =                    would have written Unix instead ...                    =
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> 
I used to get problems like this with tar. It would open up a directory
and write files into the directory. I got very bazarre. The newly created
directories became recursive and I got quite disturbed to find myself
doing a cd .. over and over and just going in a circle. It took hours
to repair such absurdities. Ustar worked out better.

The Coherent directory is very similar to a file, and it is quite possible
to totaly corrupt a directory by writting a files contents into it.
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root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Randy Wright)      | Exporter BBS     2400 bps
                or                          | (604) 581-0518     8N1
    Randy_Wright@Mindlink.bc.ca             | uucp         ogin: uguest
                                            | interactive login: guest
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: pred@iitmax.iit.edu (Predrag S. Bundalo)
Subject: JPEG release 3 ported and uploaded to Raven.
Organization: IIT--Institute of Increasing Tuition.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 09:42:42 GMT

(From my .info file at raven.)

This is the free JPEG compression/decompression suite.  It compresses
and decompresses graphics files, most notably, GIFs.

Even though COHERENT doesn't support graphics yet, the DDK is out and
this suite doesn't actually require any graphics.  All it does is compress
and uncompress GIFs and other graphics formats.

Regards,

Pred Bundalo
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From: shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU (Charles Shannon Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Colorado Systems - Conversation
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:17:30 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>
> >In article <1992Dec14.175700.22691@netcom.com> messina@netcom.com (Tony
>  Porczyk) writes:
>
> >>That's a noble intention.  Just show me a tape drive first that's as
> >>inexpensive as Colorado and as proven as Colorado.
> >>I think we should try to convince them first.
> >
> >The real answer is SCSI tape.
> >Tape drives that connect to floppy controllers suck.
>
> Agreed.  That still doesn't answer my question, though.  Have you compared
> the prices for SCSI tapes vs. floppy tapes lately?  Also, for many small
> businesses floppy tape solutions are more than sufficient (if a bit slow).
>
> t.
>
        No kidding.  SCSI is great but a little steep.  I just expanded my
hard drive space by 212megs with an IDE drive.  Its true that I might have
found a 170 or so meg SCSI drive for nearly the same price but why?  It just
makes no sense to abandon my IDE stuff.  My WD Caviar does over 2 megs/sec
transfer rate and I know people with SCSI that don't get that good (unless
they paid out the nose for it).

        But, floppy tape control does suck bigtime.  What we need is some
decent QIC-02 controller boards for the minitape drives at a decent price.
Chances are, a lot of UNIX QIC-02 software would work fine with them.

        Also, don't you have to format a floppy tape before using it?  Seems
like it lacks the ability to write to unformatted tapes... or is that a
characteristic of DOS tape software?  I was always used to just writing to
tapes under UNIX and couldn't believe it the first time I saw a DOS tape
system in use and the guy had to do a 1.5 hour format first!!!

=====================================================
Shannon Hendrix                |shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu
Christopher Newport University |---------------------
Newport News, VA               |** space for rent **
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Additional library directories
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:43:18 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <921212259@fcshome.UUCP> fredex@fcshome.UUCP (fred smith) writes:
>Thomas Essex (ringgold@netcom.com) wrote:
>:   I am currently working on a project, and want to build my own library.
>: However, whenever I specify the -L directive to indicate the additional
>: library path, I get an error indicating it can't find my library.
>:   Here's an example of how my command line looks:
>: 
>:   cc -o program program.c -L/usr/local/lib -lmylib
>: 
>: The error I get indicates it is unable to locate library libmylib.a. And
>: looking withing the /usr/local/lib directory I have the file libmylib.a.
>: Also, if I link /usr/local/lib/libmylib.a to /usr/lib the command line works
>: perfectly.
>:   Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? 
>
>Back a few months ago when I was trying (spent a LOT of time on this) to
>get the "performance release" of cnews going on 4.0, I found the
>same problem. I sent e-mail to support@mwc.com but they apparently didn't
>think it was a sufficiently important problem to waste their time
>replying.
>
>The only workaround I found was to actually put the library in /lib or
>/usr/lib.
>
>Even trying this didn't work:
>
>	cc -o progname foo.o bar.o mylib.a
>
>didn't work. The linker gives a cutesey message (almost nauseatingly
>cutesey, IMHO) about  an "unlikely name" for an object file and refuses
>to link it.


Did you get the Cnews performance release running?  Do you have diffs?

I haven't had any linker problems like the ones that you describe.

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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: installation help
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:51:46 GMT
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Christopher Mauritz (ritz@ritz.mordor.com) wrote:
: In a nutshell....you are fucked.  I have had this ongoing problem with

Yeah, well basically, he is fucked (there is no other word that could
describe it better).  I did the same thing not with coherent, but
with a DOS partition.  OS/2 is a mean SOB that likes to have everything
to itself.  Once you get it clicking, it works fine, but have plenty
of backups before you start.

: Eventually, OS/2 will decide that your Coherent parition is really
: a wayward OS/2 partiion and chkdsk will "fix" it.  I do not know why
: this happens.  The good news is that in my limited testing of linux,
: I have not seen this behavior.  Try them both and choose the one
: that works best for you.

It's probably the whatchamacallits -- you know, the hex signature that
tells what OS is running on that partition.  Linux uses the old Minix
signature, I belive, and that may be in the OS/2 tables while Coherent's
is not, and it looks just like a messed up partition to OS/2.  My guess.

-Louis
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: cs4gp6au@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Lockie      RJ)
Subject: graphics for COH
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:02:17 GMT

	I have heard about a graphics shell for Coherent. A friend
saw an ad in 'Open Systems Journal?' or something like that. I can't
find any magazines even close to that name in the local coles bookstore,
so I would like to know if anyone has seen anything about this product?
It's commercial, I don't know if it's some sort of X-Windows or something
else... Any help appreciated.

	Bob Lockie: cs4gp6au@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca


Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: dans@panix.com (Dan Simoes)
Subject: Bison and tin
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:15:18 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

My make of tin 117 fails because of a yacc error.
In the makefile, YACC=bison, both in 117 and 116 versions.
What I don't understand is why 116 compiled without a hitch,
but now 117 is complaining.

On a separate note, has anyone been able to port pico?
I am running into a couple of problems and could use some help...

Thanks,

| Dan |

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: New mirror of MWCBBS in Germany
Date: 21 Dec 92 03:55:46 GMT
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Well, now rigth for Christmas I've installed a mirror of MWCBBS on my
system. It also contains updates for COHERENT 3.x and 4.0, which are
only available to registered user because I'm not willing to support
users with illegal copys of COHERENT.
Also I've installed a Zyxel modem with 16.400 bps at a serial line
with a NS16550AFN and I'm running now Taylor uucp 1.04-gamma
(thanks Bob!). So I think I've done all what is possible to get
the best uucp performance and bring communication charges down
to an affordable value.
To get informations how to access the system see the signature.

MANY THANKS TO THE CREW OF MWC, WHICH MADE THIS ALL POSSIBLE!

I wish all users and the crew of MWC a

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Questions regarding swapping and memory
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:54:55 GMT

Christopher White (cwhite@triad.win.net) wrote:
: I am new to PC's and have a couple of questions regarding
: swapping and memeory managment.  First is there such a thing
: as swapping with coherent.  Also could any one tell me how

No, COHERENT doesn't have swapping yet, but MWC is working on that.

: coherent manages the PC's memory, and if you need to tell it
: about extended/expanded memory. What are the limitations

COHERENT 4.0 uses a flat 32 bit memory model, there is nothing
like extended/expanded memory. You've linear access to the whole
memory available in your system.

: to memory usage within the coherent operating environment?

The limitation is that COHERENT supports a maximum of 16 MB memory
yet, because of the DMA controllers with only 24 bit addresses.
This is for ISA bus systems, maybe later it supports more memory
with EISA bus systems.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: patbob@sequent.com (Patrick White)
Subject: game port driver code?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:52:04 GMT

	Does anyone have any code for reading joysticks from the gameport under
Coherent?  A device driver or program code would be fine.

	I've got info on what needs to be done and don't want to reimplement it
if I can avoid it.  Any ideas on how to implement it would be welcome too (eg.
how to turn off task switching while in the busy wait loop, timers and the ilk
I might be able to use, more efficient ways to access the I/O port than
/dev/kmem, etc.)

	If I decide it's too much for me to do, I'll summarize if there is
interest.

thanks,
Pat White (patbob)
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From: fredex@fcshome.UUCP (fred smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: how many open files in 4.0.1?
Keywords: open creat fd
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:15:37 GMT
Organization: What?!? Absolutely none!

I've been running a test program on many systems latey, to see how many
files each system allows a single process to oopen. I was astonished
to find that I could open 2000 files on AIX 3.2 on an RS/6000.

I was further astonished to see that the program thought it failed after
opening 13 files on Coherent 4.0.1. 

Here's the program:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

#include <stdio.h>
#include <fcntl.h>

#define NUMFILES 5000
main ()
	{
	int fds[NUMFILES];
	char fname[50];
	int index;
	
	for ( index = 0 ; index < NUMFILES ; index++ )
		{
		sprintf (fname, "file.%d", index);
		fds[index] = creat (fname, 0666);
		printf ("%d\n", fds[index]);
		if (fds[index] == -1)
			{
			fprintf (stderr, "Failure opening file %s\n", fname);
			break;
			}
		printf ("opened file handle %d, filename %s\n", fds[index], fname);
		sleep (1);
		}

	getchar();
	for ( --index ; index >= 0 ; index-- )
		{
		close (fds[index]);
		sprintf (fname, "file.%d", index);
		printf ("unlinking %s\n", fname);
		unlink (fname);
		}
	}

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, another thing that's interesting, is that even though the creat call
returns -1 when opening file.13, IT STILL CREATES THE FILE. If I hack it
up a bit so that it loops 20 times without regard to the return from 
creat() IT CREATES 20 FILES. The same thing happens when using open()
rather than creat().

Firstly, isn't this an unusually low limit on how many files a process
can have open ?? (especially on a 4mb machine!?!??), and secondly,
isn't this bizarre behavior of creating the file even though the
returned file handle indicates an error rather BIZARRE?  Is this
a bug (or two) or what?

Fred

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: installation help
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 10:19:10 GMT

dfilip@colornet.com wrote:
: Christopher Mauritz writes:
: >Richard Warwick (WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU) wrote:
[...]
: If Coherent is your 'active' partition, and the MWC boot program is installed,
: you should simply be able to turn on your system and Coherent will come up.
: 
: If you want to boot OS/2, and the MWC boot program is still there, right after
: the floppies reset and the system 'beeps' type in the # of the partition that
: the OS/2 Boot Manager resides in, and then boot OS/2 (partition # is 1-4 (i.e.,
: NOT zero offset)).
: 
: Personally, I have done the opposite : my active parition is the OS/2 Boot
: Manager, and therefore if I do nothing it starts up and gives me a choice
: of either DOS or OS/2. If I type the partition # of Coherent, then the MWC
: boot program starts up Coherent (I have done this because my wife occasionally
: uses DOS on my PC, and I don't want her booting up Coherent without knowing
: how to cleanly shut it down).
[...]
Just to remember: if no partition is active COHERENT's master boot
outputs a prompt and lets you enter the partition to boot, without
the need to type in the # at the right time.
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