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From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit,,,)
Subject: Re: What is she thinking?
Reply-To: pandit@ssd.intel.com
Organization: SSD Intel Corp.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:02:09 GMT

In article 15531@news.cs.indiana.edu, angela allen <angie@moose.cs.indiana.edu> () writes:

>My friend used to joke that one day the cat will perk up and shout,
>"Eureka! Einstein was all wrong!" and then return to his thinking
>pose and never speak again.
>
>I suppose I could drive my (computer science grad student) hubby nuts
>by saying that one of our cats did that, only he shouted "It is true!
>P does equal NP!"

Indeed, my brother says Manu has proven Fermat's Last Theorem.  When I gave my brother 
a stereo, Manu bit the box a couple of times.  The proof was encoded in the bites, but 
the saliva dried by the time I delivered it, so it was indecipherable.  ;-)

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pjohnso@triton.unm.edu (Paddy Johnson CIRT)
Subject: What is she thinking? (was Re: What does he DO in there???
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:20:27 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico

My cat Hilda Marie Mae Mupovitch, loves to get outside.  She has been known
to run headfirst into the hose turned on full blast to get loose, so she
manages to get outside frequently.  When I get home from work, she is 
almost always sitting in the same position in the same place on the 
shed roof.  The position is somewhat sphinx-like, with the ears erect,
but the eyes are half-closed.  Her tail is either curled around her feet
or straight out in back depending on the temperature.  She can sit this
way for hours.  My question is: What is she thinking about when she is
doing this?  The shed roof overlooks a small enclosed patio where nothing
much ever seems to happen.  We live some distance from the street so
she can't see it either.
ZoeJ 


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: What IS Pounce???
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:21:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.231219.4505@syacus.acus.oz.au> brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies) writes:
>crb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ruth) writes:
>>I've been reading the thread on "What IS is with Pounce" - maybe my question
>>is simpler - What actually IS Pounce? 

>They're cat treats sold in the States--little softish tan-coloured nibbles
>that come in a little pull-top tin about four inches high.  I wish I could
>get them in Australia--they send wild any cat I've ever tried them on!  :-)
>


You should probably be grateful that you *can't* get them.  I haven't
studied the list of ingredients on Pounce, but I have on Tender
Vittles (which are essentially the same product and to which my dear
old Abigail is woefully addicted).  The list of chemicals is
astonishing, the taste makes (some) cats wolf them down and display
almost doglike :-) eating behavior, and if Abigail gets too many at
once, she gets a digestive upset.  I keep the opened package in the
refrigerator and dole them out a few at a time because I worry about
all those chemicals (but I don't want to deny her her favorite treat,
either).  I often take 4 or 5 of them and throw them into the living
room.  It takes her a while to find them all, and it's one of her
favorite hobbies.  :-)






--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: a breaking horror story
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:20:08 GMT

In article <22866@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick) writes:
>My son and daughter-in-law live in Santa Barbara, so I know they will keep
>their Alex in the house after this.

Again, not to in any way discourage anyone from taking the best care of
their cats they possibly can, but the cat-hanging incidents are taking
place in and around the city of San Jose.  Santa Barbara is a six-hour
drive from San Jose.  This is a really nasty and horrible series of
crimes, but so far there doesn't seem to be any justification for a
geographically wide-spread panic.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   -__ __ /_   Jon Berger              "If you push something hard enough,
  //_// //_/   jonb@ingres.com          it will fall over."
_/ ---------                              - Fudd's First Law of Opposition
From: ai257@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda L. McConnell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Wierd Cat?
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:28:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Jul26.182815.24663
Reply-To: ai257@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda L. McConnell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, jim@sun0.elon.edu (Jim Murphy CS Faculty) says:

>Our adopted cat has a real love of getting under a piece of newspaper.
>We can cover him with a single sheet of newspaper and he can lie there
>and behave himself for quite a long time. He sometimes plays "chase"
>and runs back under his sheet of paper. Is this normal? He now expects
>his newspaper each night!
>
>
The word normal does not seem to apply to cats.  The Panther
loves paper.  He loves to chew it, rip it, shred it, paw it,
burrow under it, scoot it around, etc.  Leave a paper bag open
on the floor and he'll be in it.  Your cat sounds like a perfectly
'normal', ie. weird, cat.  The Panther also loves to help me do
paperwork.  When I am adding figures with my calculator that has
a tape on it, he is right there, batting at the paper as it comes
out, and trying to see inside the calculator.
>
-- 
"I don't know much about being a millionaire,
 but I'll bet I'd be _darling_ at it."
                                      Dorothy Parker
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:29:13 GMT

In article <14h0pdINNl5l@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> jocha@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Marianne S. Jocha) writes:
>In article <14gvs6INNso3@early-bird.think.com> fuhry@think.com (Debbie Fuhry) writes:
>>Oh, no!  In our house it's definitely "fetch"!  I throw the little ball (or
>>whatever), and the cat(s) chase it and play with it, batting it around for
>>a while.  Then of course they give me THAT LOOK, and like a good girl I hop
>>right up, fetch the ball, and throw it again!
>
>Of course, only Sheba prefers elastic coated hair rubber bands (the
>very wide ones).  Sheba has a variation, though.  The first couple of
>throws, she'll fetch and bring it right back to me, but then will
>fetch and return it progressively further away from me, until I have
>to finally go fetch it for her!  I think she just wants to make sure
>that I'm still her servant and that she's still in charge! :-)
>                        --marianne--
>

Penny is very good about fetching and bringing it back, often dropping
her foil ball into my hand. However, if I don't throw it far enough,
preferably bouncing off several things in the process, she won't
bring it back. She gives me a look that says, "Is that the best you
can do?"

Shoelaces are still in demand after 6 months, altho she gets bored/tired
quicker. Another favourite is a leather bookmark. I shall have to
try some of the other odds and ends mentioned.

Carol Denehy

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: irene@wotan.cns.nyu.edu (Irene Martin)
Subject: Re: Thyroidectomy
Keywords: Thyroid
Organization: Center for Neural Science,New York University,New York
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:53:41 GMT

The place in NY is the Animal Medical Center on on East 62 (212 838-7053).
They are a world renowned hospital and research center.

Anyway, about 1 1/2 years ago my (then) 16 yr. old girl was diagnosed
with the same problem.  However, she also has a deteriorating kidney
(unrelated).  We went to AMC to talk to a specialist.  The treatment
will actually take closer to 3 weeks and cost (I don't really remember)
$1000 to $2000.  Because of her age (and kidney condition) they didn't
recommend it.  Anyway, he said that it was completely controllable
with Tapazol.  She started out on 1 pill a day and was tested only every
3 months for 6 months (twice).  Now she is tested every 6 months
and is up to 2 pills a day.  I could tell that she needed more, because
she was getting lethargic.  The pills are 40 cents each, so it would
take a long time before the radiation was cheaper.  She's gotten
used to the pills.  I always give them to her right before meals,
so she knows there will be a reward after.

The age of the cat is obviously a consideration. I don't think
Kally (or I) would have survived the seperation.  By the way,
my mom also has thyroid problems and when she visits she takes
her pills at the same time as Kally.

As a side note, my girl is a real fighter. A year and half ago her
kidney had deteriorated 25%.  I was told it was either weeks or
hopefully months.  A month ago, her tests revealed that it was
still only 25% gone!  She also had FIP when she was 5 and I was
told she had almost no chance of surviving (12 years ago!).
I love her so much!
				-irene &
				 kally &
				 cheese & crackers
From: HXKPY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Diana Gregory)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: a breaking horror story
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:01:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I only heard a part of this story - I couldn't
listen to the rest.  It seems to be local to the
Bay Area - right now - but I'm sending it out
in case it's not going to prove local.

The bit I heard on the radio coming in to work
today was:

The Santa Clara County Humane Society (I think
that's who they said) is offerring a reward
for information leading to the arrest of whoever
was responsible for hanging 7 cats.

It was at this point the news announcer said
that the story was "going to get graphic", and I
turned off the radio - so I don't know any further
details.  Any local Bay Area folks who have stronger
stomachs than I do and wants to provide details,
please do - just warn me.  All I want to do is
keep my cats inside, and warn others to do so as
well.

Diana
(shaking, sick, concerned, and PISSED OFF!)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jkl@evolving.com (Jennifer Longstaff)
Subject: Re: Cat and Ferret
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:41:19 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

My next-door-neighbor runs (in her home) the "Colorado Ferret Rescue Society."
When animal shelters in the Denver/Boulder area have ferrets brought to them,
or find strays or litters, they call her and she comes and picks them up.  She
also has many of her own as pets.  There's probably about 10-20 of those little
weasels running around her house.  She also has 5 cats, a great-pyranese (sp?)
dog and 2 horses (everyone except the horses gets to be inside).  Anyway she has
no trouble at all with the cats and the ferrets; for the most part the cats
ignore the ferrets but every now and then the ferrets will chase or wrestle with
the cats.  It seems to be a very co-operative arrangement; and the cats will
catch mice and snakes but they never seem to consider that the ferrets are rodents
or potential prey.

Anyway, for the person that wanted more information on ferrets, if you'll email
me I can send you my neighbor's phone number (303 area code); if you really want
to know everything there is to know about ferrets and/or ferrets and cats, I'm
sure she'll help you out.  She can probably also recommend the best ferret books.

- Jennifer
  jkl@evolving.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner)
Subject: Marbles!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:35:02 GMT


The most popular cat toy in our house right now is a small
bowl filled with marbles.  This is a substitute for the
nice little brass bowl filled with earrings, etc. that Zoe
used to get into.  She-- and sometimes Phoebe-- love to dig
out little sparkly things with one paw, then carry them
carefully down several flights of stairs to the one room
without a rug.  Then we hear all kinds of kitty hockey noises
in the kitchen, as the they roll  the marbles around.
 
One of these days, some dumb two-legger is going to slip and
fall, but right now, marbles are IT!  They outclass milk
jug rings and ponytail holders.
--
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: blocked tear ducts
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:05:02 GMT
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA

In article <1992Jul27.193131.16893@ast.saic.com> hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com writes:
>
>Anyway, the vet described the procedure and then went on to say that it
>was only successful about 50% of the time and some of the successful ones
>ended up re-blocking.  He also said that the only real problem for the cat
>was appearence.  If I was willing to clear away the goop around the
>edges of his eyes on a daily basis that would be all that was really 
>necessary.  He personally did not recommend the surgery (at least for
>my cat).
>
>Is anyone aware of possible problems due to blocked tear ducts?  My cat
>eventually died a few years ago but he never had any problems related to
>this.
>
My 10 year old orphan, Oreo, arrived 2 years ago with blocked tear ducts.
My vet said it wouldn't hurt anything, just to clean away the goop, and
there haven't been any other problems with his eyes yet.

Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.boeing.com  // or uunet!bcstec!voodoo!das
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: update on kitty's condition
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:01:29 GMT
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <1992Jul22.161545.1@max.u.washington.edu> maji@max.u.washington.edu writes:
> I think kitty is on the way recovering.
>restraining him from eating too much. he is drinkng water now. and demand
>going out again. (of course I wouldn't do that for a long time.)

Thanks for letting us know!

You may be surprised how quickly he recovers once he's really going. I was
amazed at both our cats, first Boots who, under anaesthetic, had to have a 
cactus thorn (which was embedded under the skin of her belly) removed, and 
then Abby, who on July 4th got clipped on the head by a car (the only way we 
can account for her injuries is if she was in the middle of the road, the car 
drove above her, she stuck her head up and got clipped and rolled). 

Boots was running around by the next morning (less than 24 hours after 
surgery) and Abby was asking - no, you're right, demanding :-) - to go out 
in three days. We didn't let her out unsupervised until the following weekend.

Does anyone else's usually-independent cat go through a complete character
transformation when it isn't feeling well? Abby likes a cuddle now and then
when *she* feels like it; sometimes during the night she will come and lie 
down next to me purring, and she usually sleeps between my knees. But, except 
for the first 24 hours, when she was very dazed and sore and didn't want to 
eat or move, Abby was extraordinarily affectionate for several days afterwards. 
During this time she was asking to be cuddled and petted whenever she got the 
chance, she slept on my chest or beside me the whole night, and she even went 
so far as to crawl onto my husband's chest once, which was unheard-of before
then. By about 4-5 days later, she was back to her usual self. 
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rob@apache.dtcc.edu (Rob Jarman)
Subject: Re: flea control
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:59:25 GMT


I've been reading here about using Borax. 

Can any other powder bleach be used? Is there any chance of ruining a carpet 
from this?

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wood-smithc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Chrissi Wood-Smith)
Subject: Telephoning the Kitty
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:32:27 GMT

Funny this should show up here, the rec.pet.birds had a similar post.  I 
call my two parrots and kitty all the time.  The cat, a two year old 
Himalayan, sleep under her "friend's" cage to guard them.  She actually does 
love her bird friends, and can differntiate between them and the birds at 
the bird feeder on the porch (which she intently eyes).  Of course, there is 
no actual interaction between birds and cat, but they don't seem to mind one 
another and love to play telephone when I'm at work!!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg)
Subject: pens and pencils (was: Re: cat toys ideas)
Summary: my cat hides pens and pencils
Keywords: cat hide pencil pen write
Organization: U of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 01:10:57 GMT

In article <3518@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rm55+@pitt.edu
(Rudolph T Maceyko) writes:
 [ ...]
>Milgen would be happy in a room full of tables and desks with hundreds of
>pens and pencils on them, just waiting to be batted around the room.

Ah, another writing-implement-attacking cat!  Mortina II is very
fond of absconding with the pen(s) and pencil(s) from my desk and
batting them around for a while.  They invariably end up hidden
inaccessably underneath/behind something immovable, at which point
she looses interest.

I think she's getting a commision from the Bic company...

- Jonathan Thornburg and Mortina II (resident on Thetis Island, BC, Canada)
  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
  University of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Rituals
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:19:54 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

>In article <16903@autodesk.COM> dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith) writes:
>>
>>  Here's a followup question:  what rituals do you have with your cats? 
>>

Roo has got a ritual game that has to be played every time I arrive
home - (I live away from home, so the only time I see her is when
I visit).  She likes being chased around the house, although now
she is getting on in years, the chase has turned into a slow
wander around the house.  She always follows the same route starting
at the bottom of the stairs under the telephone table.  Once I've
flushed her out from there (usually by rubbing her stomach), she
races up the stairs into one of the bedrooms and goes to ground
in a wardrobe.  I'm then meant to put my hand in, and she'll bat
it about a bit (no claws though), and then she comes out, and wanders
into the next bedroom.  I've got to follow her, or she will stop
and look at me as if to say "well, come on!".  She then wanders
around under the bed, and there's more hand batting, and then goes
back to the first bedroom, and jumps on the bed, where I am meant
to push her over, and give her a good stroking.
  By this time she's purring like a little engine.
  Strange the things that amuse cats!!

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies)
Subject: Re: Spots on Kitty's Chin??- HELP!!
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:41:11 GMT

cwilliams@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:

>My cat seems to have a problem with tiny "sores" on her chin.  I
>notice  a few spots where the fur is gone and sometimes there
>seems to be just a dot of blood on the spot.  The missing
>patches of fur are really tiny spots but noticeable.  The spots
>are not necessarily near her gum line and I didn't notice any
>problems with her gums when I looked.

>Does anyone have any idea what this could be?  

What you describe is called Feline Acne.  It is caused by a subcutaneous
microbe and is quite common; two of my three kitties have had it at one
time or another.

It's painful and should be treated straightaway.  It's easy, though; the
usual course is about a week's work of Amoxycillin.  See your vet for it.

--Brent

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Subject: Re: Why do I do this to myself????
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:08:03 GMT

klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:


>I gotta have "cat sucker" written all over me in letters 2 ft high...


Kay-

It's a chromosomal disorder -- suckeris felis, and there is not a *damn*
thing you can do about it.

Same thing exists in the dog world, too (suckeris caninis), except that a 
certain level of mental retardation exists with that disorder.

(-;  (-:   (-:


Lauren

Who *this very morning*  talked her landlord into letting her keep Albert
the orpan kitten.

Yup, I got it too.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg)
Subject: Re: Suddenly lazy cat? HELP!
Summary: this may be serious -- get George to a vet right away
Organization: U of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 06:47:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.125030.6357@athena.mit.edu> cid@athena.mit.edu
(Derek H Cedillo) writes:
>I have a long haired cat named george, who has a short haired sis
>named gracie. Both of them are very active and always wrestling around.
>This is the way they were yesterday when I left for work.
>When I came home, Gracie came up and greeted me like usual, but
>george just laid on the bed and did not move.  He scratched me when
>I tried to pet him.  The whole rest of the evening he ignored everything,
>hasnt really eaten, just laid in a ball (he always sprawls out, never 
>really laying in a ball like that)  He doesnt even budge when his brush
>comes out, which he always brushes himself, with us just holding the
>brush out.  Please help.  Can cats get the flu like this?  Could it be
>something serious.  I have a feeling its somethhing like the flu, but
>I am worried none the less.  Please respond ASAP

This could be serious.  Get George to a vet AT ONCE!  If you can't
make contact with your vet, it's better to take him to a substitute
vet than to delay.

Please tell us what the outcome is.

Good luck,

- Jonathan Thornburg
  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
  University of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}