HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: CO in Nova Scotia
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:52:44 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <lnewton.79@pvec.bridgewater.ns.ca> lnewton@pvec.bridgewater.ns.ca (LEE NEWTON) writes:
>	Previously someone posted something here for me about clubs in Nova 
>Scotia. I got hardly any info back, so I am trying again. I would like to n\
>know of clubs in the Halifax area, or beyond. Doesn't matter. I already know 
>about Crystal Cresent. I was nude in the snow before, and while 
>exhilerating, I really don't want to do it for relaxation!


The Canadian Guide lists:
  Crystal Crescent Beach
  Kelly's Beach, NB
and 2 travel clubs:
  Bluenose Naturist Club / PO Box 2841 Dartmouth, NS, B2W 4Y2. (902) 883-1262.
  Maritime Organized Naturist Assoc / Emsdale, NS. B0N 1M0. (902) 883-1354.

[no PO box is listed for the latter, butif (as I suspect) it is a really small
town, maybe the box number isn't necessary....]

The World Guide lists:
  Crystal Crescent Beach
  Gaspereau River
  Suzie's Lake
  Annapolis River Island
  Inverness Beach

Refer to the FAQ for info on ordering these books.

Bill.
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From: scridd@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JEFF)
Subject: Re: Christian nudes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Nov 1992 10:06 EST  

In article <VCW1.92Nov12141913@Isis.MsState.Edu>, vcw1@Isis.MsState.Edu (Vince Worbington) writes...
> 
>> I have to wonder about that.  What is lust?  A desire to have sex?  Is
>> that sin?
> 
>No, that is not at all what lust is.  Lust is a conscious decision
>to have sex or fanticize about having sex with someone who is not
>your spouse.

Not necessarily.  Just look in any dictionary.  Lust originally meant
pleasure.  Later it came to mean sexual desire in general.  However,
more recently pejorative usage of the word (especially by Christians of
a certain persuasion) has caused lust to mean *illicit* sexual desire.

>  Note that by the Biblical definition you cannot lust after
>your wife, because "if a man looks at a woman to lust after her, he
>has commited adultry with her in his heart."  Thus since you cannot
>commit adultry with your wife, by this verse you cannot lust after her.

Remember that you read this in translation.  In fact this wording comes
from the outdated KJV.  What exactly does the original Greek say?

Jeff
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Sigh.  Why do I think this is going to be full of snickers, puns, and
inuendo.  Last time Hard Copy did a segment related to nudism, it
was "Murder in the Nudist Colony".  It was pretty trashy.  They took
an incident that happened at Paradise Lakes in Florida and sensationalized
it because it happened in a "nudist colony".  The fact that it happened
there was only incidental to the murder story but they milked it
for what it was worth.  We'll see what they do this time.

Ales Fiala
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Testing
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:35:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.nude
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov20.161919.6812@newsgate.sps.mot.com>,  (Norman Petersen)
writes:

> Testing new software I just recieved.

NORM!  Have a beer on me, buddy.

Terry
From: thiggins@ttsi.lonestar.org (Thomas Higgins)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: France
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:33:02 GMT
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc. Plano, Tx.


    I have an opportunity to purchase a couple, very inexpensive, R/T
  tickets to France.  The only restriction is that I stay at a Hilton,
  Sheraton or Hyatt hotel.  I want to stay somewhere in Cap D'Agde.
  Does anyone know if these two requirements are compatable?

  Thanx in Advance

  Tom Higgins
  Plano, Texas
  (214) 516-6246
From: nikita@russia (John R. Hardy)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: nude-utah?
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:15:16 GMT
Organization: Hardy & Assoc.

Is there anywhere in Utah, besides my apartment that is for nudists?                          
Finding such a place could really help my tan... :)

                       email:  russia!nikita
From: Richard.Mathews@West.Sun.COM (Richard M. Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Yet another FAQ
Date: 20 Nov 1992 06:22:25 GMT
Organization: Sunsoft Inc., Los Angeles, CA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: astro
Originator: richard@astro.West.Sun.COM

One more bit of feedback I wanted to request on these FAQs: what should
the posting schedule be?  While it stays 2 volumes, does posting one
about the middle of each month and the other around the beginning of
each month sound reasonable?  Or should they be posted together?

    Richard M. Mathews			 Freedom for Lithuania
Richard.Mathews@West.Sun.COM		        Laisve!
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Driving without shoes
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:42:37 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
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In article <> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton) writes:
>It should be further noted that we do have rec.nude police who monitor
>people posting to rec.nude to insure that you are indeed nude while posting.

Gee, I left off the smiley faces.  I wonder if people in alt.folklore.urban
are going to think I am serious about this? :-)

You all in rec.nude know I am kidding, right?

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From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Pfeiffer State Beach -- a lovely afternoon!
Summary: Naked people win beach
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:12:10


Last Thursday, after pulling one too many all nighters, I and two friends left
Stanford for Big Sur.  This was the first big expedition of my VW camper bus
since rebuilding the carburetors with a guitar string (see rec.autos.vw); and
we stopped to hike along the way, so we arrived pretty late at the park.  We
ended up just parking and sleeping in the bus.  

After the requisite hike through the park in the morning, we followed the
directions at the lodge, about 3/4 mile S from the park entrance on hwy 1, to
the first (well, second) turnoff to the right.  [The first turn is someone's
driveway, with an electronic gate.]  

The beach is about another 3/4 mile down a twisty, one lane road with 
turnouts -- a bit of an adventure.   But it's well worth the trip.

The part of the beach we saw was divided into two large coves, with a 
sanstone outcropping below the high-tide mark, forming a promontory between
them.  Islands with beautiful, sunlit channels through them were just offshore.
The water was very clear, and blue-green.  Amazingly for November, the water
temperature was about 68F -- just right!  The first cove is the mouth of the
Big Sur river, and very populous.  We headed to the right, behind the 
promontory, to find a more secluded spot.  

At first, I was disappointed to find lots of (well, OK, ~10 - 20) people
there, all of whom were clothed.  But we set up our stuff and took off our
clothes anyway.  I went out in the water to bodysurf -- the waves were 
beautiful, and coming in as regular as clockwork in four minute sets.  

The main island was about 100 yards offshore; I swam out to it, and almost 
climbed up on it, but chickened out when the next set started coming in.

When I finally came back on the beach, I was happily surprised to see that
most of the people on the beach were nude; I guess they'd been waiting 
for a cue that it was OK, or maybe we scared off all the squares :-).

At sunset, we walked back to the car.  My two companions got dressed, but 
I didn't.  Why get sand in my clothes?  No-one commented on the way back,
not even the ranger in the parking lot.  

In short, a wonderful trip was had by all (and especially me); I heartily
recommend the place for us fellow freaks!

--
Craig DeForest -- astrophysicist for hire.  

Beat cal - Beat cal - Beat cal - Beat cal - Beat cal - Beat cal - Beat cal 
               [sort-a mindless, eh? That's pac-10 for you.]

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From: stas@netcom.com (Stanislav Malyshev)
Subject: Re: Driving without shoes
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:55:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.140651.5886@cbnews.cb.att.com> ran@cbnews.cb.att.com (Robert A. Neinast) writes:
>In article <32100002@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>, adamb@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Adam Barnett) writes:
>> I hate to put a damper on this particular "Urban Legend,"
>> but the fact of the matter is that it is illegal to drive
>> without shoes in the state of Arizona.  
>
>I hate to start a flame war, but do you (and the others
>claiming that it is illegal) really know of what
>you speak?  As I posted in an earlier article, I looked it
>up (what? look something up--this is netnews) in the
>AAA Digest of Driving Laws, and they claim it is permitted.
>
>I've also specifically looked at Ohio (where I live) Laws,
>and found no such law.
>

A few weeks ago an instructor at a traffic school ;) mentioned that
driving w/o shoes is indeed LEGAL here in California.

Stan
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From: amirza@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Anmar Caves)
Subject: Re: Help Preserve Civil Rights in Colorado
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:07:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.201703.11628@ultb.isc.rit.edu> noid@nick.csh.rit.edu (i live in the dark) writes:

>  there is a beautifull poem 
>written in hitler's germany about a man who did nothing, when they came for the
>jews.  he did nothing when they came for the poles.  he did nothing when they
>came for the blacks... ect.  and when they came for him.... there was no one
>left to help him.   wish i could remember the exact poem....

"In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak
up because I wasn't a Communist.  Then they came for the Jews, and I
didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.  Then they came for the trade
unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was
a protestant.  Then they came for me, and by that time there was nobody
left to speak up."
		-- Reverend Martin Niemoller

That line in there, "Then they came for me" is especially
chilling, and should be remembered by those who practice intolerance.


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From: loki@netcom.com (James E Myers)
Subject: Re: TV's Hard Copy reports on nudism
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:11:14 GMT

galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster) writes:

>The US TV program "Hard Copy" (ABC?) is adversing a segment tomorrow
>(Thursday, 11/19/92) billed as "Everything you never wanted to know
>about American nudism".  I may not get to watch it.  I hope somebody
>posts a report! (Doesn't sound good)
>
It was less horrible than I was expecting.  They actually interviewed real
people, and did so with considerably less sniggering than they could have
done. (of course, it's possible they did snigger, and I was just too pure
of heart to really notice....)
From: hwt@bcarh11a.BNR.CA (Henry Troup)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Christian nudes
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:50:27 GMT
Reply-To: Henry.Troup@BNR.CA
Distribution: na
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

In article <BxAtI1.6p5.2@cs.cmu.edu>, Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes:
|>gchatham@cats.ucsc.edu writes:

|>      "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust
|>      after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

|>Aside from that detail, the clothed-or-not state of the member of the
|>opposite sex in question has little bearing on whether the individual
|>sins in this manner.

A most valid point.  My most frequent exposure to public CO situations
is at the annual "war" in Pennslyvania of the Society for Creative
Anachronism (SCA) a medieval recreation organization.  By long standing
tradition (16 years at the same site) the swimming hole is CO.  This
introduced me to the paradox that a woman who is covered from neck to
toes may be far more alluring than the same woman nude.

So, to reiterate, lust and clothing have little to do with each other.
                             

Henry Troup - H.Troup@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
	"It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for."
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From: dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker)
Subject: nude beaches in LA?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:56:29 GMT

Anyone know of any good nudist beaches in Los Angeles?
There's got to be at least one.
Thanks for your time.

Jeff
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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Nude Police?
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:33:59 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1ebp0dINNaq2@network.ucsd.edu>, middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:

> In article <> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton) writes:

>>It should be further noted that we do have rec.nude police who monitor
>>people posting to rec.nude to insure that you are indeed nude while posting.

> Gee, I left off the smiley faces.  I wonder if people in alt.folklore.urban
> are going to think I am serious about this? :-)

> You all in rec.nude know I am kidding, right?

NUDE POLICE!  NUDE POLICE!  ARREST THAT MAN!


I wouldn't worry about AFU.  They have refused to move to the "main" heirarchy
because they like the way it sounds when you say "AFU!" real fast.  They
don't take anything seriously.  Of course, most of them probably don't wear
clothes when posting to AFU either, but that has more to do with being
non-conformists than with being Nudists!

Terry "Nude while reading this" Wood
From: bell@aussie.dec.com (Peter Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nude beaches near Wollongong
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:47:02 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Nov14.143814.7330@cc.uow.edu.au>, u9227164@cc.uow.edu.au (Neil P Dillon) writes...
>but I have been unsuccessful in my search here.  I am in Wollongong, so
>someplace near would be ideal!!

"Bare Facts" lists:

from North to South.

Werrong Beach, in Royal National Park near Stanwell Tops. (Official)

Scarborough Wombarra Beach, between those towns there are many small beaches,
find a suitable one.

East Corrimal Beach, Turn left from the car park and walk about one kilometre.

Fairy Meadow Beach, access from Fairy Meadow Surf Club, walk north, or south
away from the club and picnic area.

North Windang Beach, South of Port Kembla, head south towards Shell Harbour,
and turn left between the golf course and the radio masts. Park at the end of
the road, and walk through to the beach.

Thats all the next ones are near Nowra.

Peter.
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Berkeley's Naked Guy
Date: 23 Nov 1992 22:51:10 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <1992Nov22.080603.15330@netcom.com> stas@netcom.com (Stanislav Malyshev) writes:
>Altough I haven't seen TNG in person on campus, the impression he gave
>during an interview on local news was that of a dimwit.  Perhaps he
>had smoked some Bill Clinton and was unable to handle the duress of
>the braindead interview.

Reporters could make Albert Einstein look like a dimwit if they wanted.
He seemed reasonably intelligent on Povich's show.

Bill.
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From: scridd@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JEFF)
Subject: Re: TV's Hard Copy reports on nudism
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:44 EST  

In article <1992Nov20.101114.4424@netcom.com>, loki@netcom.com (James E Myers) writes...
>galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster) writes:
> 
>>The US TV program "Hard Copy" (ABC?) is adversing a segment tomorrow
>>(Thursday, 11/19/92) billed as "Everything you never wanted to know
>>about American nudism".  I may not get to watch it.  I hope somebody
>>posts a report! (Doesn't sound good)
>>
>It was less horrible than I was expecting.  They actually interviewed real
>people, and did so with considerably less sniggering than they could have
>done. (of course, it's possible they did snigger, and I was just too pure
>of heart to really notice....)
> 
I managed to tape it.  I suppose that it could have been worse given the
program's past record.  They gave a number of brief items about such as
the Nudist Apartments of Las Vegas, Elysium and its legal battles, Laguna
del Sol, and the Slugs (a naturist hiking club in the Northwest).  They
treated these items somewhat superficially (it was maybe a 10 minute
segment).  There were the usual black boxes and blurs to blot out genitals,
breasts, and buttocks; also a few bad puns (did I detect sniggering?).
They gave no indication as to how to get more information on nudism or
how to contact its organizations.

One interesting note that relates to the ongoing religious discussion.
They had a preacher who was opposed to nudism who said that Jesus had
commanded his disciples to clothe the naked, an out-of-context quote if 
I ever heard one.  If I remember correctly, the passage in question
refers to providing for the needs of those who are unable to do so
for themselves and doesn't say anything about voluntary nudity being
wrong.

Jeff
From: jwlx_ss@tribble.cc.rochester.edu (Jeff Wilcox)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Topless at U of R
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:56:15 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I just thought I would write in to let everyone know that the NY law allowing
women to go topless has been now come out of the closet.  In yesterday's
school newspaper at the University of Rochester, there is the security report
describing a woman walking around Wilson Commons (the student union) without
her shirt on.  Security was called, but she refused to put on her shirt
saying that if she were a man, they wouldn't be bothering her.  A male student
also took off his shirt when security came.  This took place at 6:20pm. This is
Primetime.  I guess it really shook up a lot of people.  Great.

					Jeff Wilcox
					jwlx_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu
	
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From: etmhjvt@acrosby25.ericsson.se (Henk-Jan van Tuyl)
Subject: Three Nude Guys
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Rijen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:25:24 GMT


The Nude Guy From Berkeley even made the TV news here at the Netherlands.
In my opinion it is surprising, that such a news item reaches Dutch TV. 
The case reminds me of an event of one or two years ago, which only 
reached a small local newspaper. The story is about as follows:

Rotterdam, Three male students were arrested last weekend. Somebody phoned
the police because the students were naked and walking over a car. 
The students denied having walked over the car. They were put in cell (naked),
allowing all (male and female) police officers to have a look
at them. After a short period they were released; they had to walk back home.
In the nude.
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From:  (Norman Petersen)
Subject: Testing
Followup-To: rec.nude
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:19:19 GMT

Testing new software I just recieved.
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id <m0mrHwh-0001GuC@crash.cts.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 92 17: 41 PST
	id <kg60826@pro-harold.cts.com>; Mon, 16 Nov 92 16: 53 PST
From: leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick)
Subject: Re: Christian nudists
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:51:17 PST

>While you're digging around on your disks, don't lose sight of the fact
that
nudism has only existed for a few decades (compared with a couple of
thousand
years' worth of biblical tradition).<

Bibical tradition is a few thousan years old! New fangled religions! Give
me that old time religion, Taoism. As to nudity being only a few decades
old, get real. Clothing became compulsory due to Queen Victoria and her
anal-retentive hang-ups. Nudity has been a lifestyle since day one or which
ever day your God is supposed to have created "Man" If one was cold they
wore something, if not they bared skin as necessary to be comfortable.

>IMHO the Bible doesn't
say anything about nudists, feminists, lesbians & gays or a number of
groups of
people who are a sociological product of the modern world, therefore the
whole
argument needs to be re-interpreted.<

It's been a long time since I read the bible but I remeber passages about
homosexual practices. In my opinion (not humble) homosexuality is a God
given since God is the ultimate source of all creation. Sorry to stray from
the topic of nudity.

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From: mike@wang.com (Mike Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Nude Police?
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:38:07 GMT

tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:

>NUDE POLICE!  NUDE POLICE!  ARREST THAT MAN!

Hmmm!  Where do they keep their handcuffs? 

The New England Naturists Association will be having their November swim
this saturday at a Health club in Revere Massachusetts.  The cost is $15 for
non-members, and $10 for members and members of affiliated groups.  The 
facilities include indoor heated swimming pool, two hottubs, saunas, 
steam rooms, Walleyball, basketball courts, weights and nautilus, etc.  A very
friendly group of people.  First timers welcome.  Reply for more information.

mike
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From: lnewton@pvec.bridgewater.ns.ca (LEE NEWTON)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: CO in Nova Scotia
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:28:45 GMT
Organization: Parkview Education Centre, N.S. Canada


	Previously someone posted something here for me about clubs in Nova 
Scotia. I got hardly any info back, so I am trying again. I would like to n\
know of clubs in the Halifax area, or beyond. Doesn't matter. I already know 
about Crystal Cresent. I was nude in the snow before, and while 
exhilerating, I really don't want to do it for relaxation!
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