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From: sherman@ecadsr.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: 1992 Fall Music Conference
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:30:40 GMT


			1992 Fall Music Conference
			--------------------------

Well, boys and girls, it's getting to be that time again.  It has not yet been
formally announced, but this year's FMC is tentatively scheduled for November
15 at the Waltham Vista (same place as last time) from about noon to 7PM.  It 
will probably be *even cheaper* this time around.  Rumor has it that it could 
be as low as $25 to participate.  I don't know what group rates will be but, 
as before, I'll handle a sign-up list for folks who want to get in even 
cheaper.  Some of the panel discussions will probably include:

	- College Radio
	- Production
	- Vocals
	- Producers on Cutting the Record Deal

As usual, they will be bringing in more folks from the industry to make short
presentations, have discussion and field questions from the audience.  Stay 
tuned for a more formal announcement (when I get it).

For those that are unaware, these music conferences are not to be missed for 
New England Area folks that are serious about the music business.  Last time 
the place was packed and it was very exciting.  Lots of opportunity to meet 
and mingle with the people who are succeeding in the industry here.  Again,
I plan to post a review, but (as before) I expect it to hardly do the 
conference justice.

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: admahale@titan.Princeton.EDU (Anant D. Mahale)
Subject: Roland D-20 synthesizer for sale
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:53:35 GMT


Hi,

  I have a Roland D-20 keyboard that I would like to sell. It is about
2 years old, but has been rarely used.  I am asking for
$1000 or best offer (including FOSTEX headphones and a
stand.)  

The details of the keyboard are given below :

Description:
  The D-20 is a Digital synthesizer/sample player with built-in 
sequencer, drum machine and disk drive. It covers 5 octaves,
C to C, with velocity sensing, Layer and split modes and
variable split point.  There are 16 two-partial voices,
eight four-partial voices, and dynamic voice allocation in
multi-timbral mode. 

Memory: 
128 patches, 128 timbres, 128 preset tones, 64 programmable
tones, 63 preset rhythm sounds. Sequencer: 16,000 notes.
Rhythm section: 85-key drum-kit, 32 preset patterns, 32
programmable patterns, 96 notes per pattern. Optional memory
card (M-256D); 128 patches, 128 timbres, 64 tones, 32 rhythm
patterns, one rhythm track sequence, one rhythm setup.

Interfacing:
MIDI in, out, thru. Stereo 1/4'' audio outs and headphone
out. Three foot switch inputs (sustain, sequencer start/stop,
and punch in/out). Memory card slot. PG-10: MIDI in, out,
thru, parameter in.

Features: 
Eight-voice multi-timbral operation. Eight-track sequencer. 
PCM drum sounds and rhythm sequencer. Built-in 3.5'' disk
drive. Digital reverb with eight presets. 

Dimensions: 
40 in x 11 7/8 in x 4 1/4 in, 22 lbs, 4 oz. 

Excellent reviews from KEYBOARD magazine. List price is
$1800. 


If you are interested, please contact me at

Anant Mahale
admahale.eng@phoenix.princeton.edu

Tel:  (609) 921-2113 (H) 
      (609) 924-3150 (O) 

(You can leave a message at either number.)
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: What about "classical" sounds?
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:06:00 GMT


I suggest that you consider a synthesizer instead of a sample player.  It is
likely that yoy really don't know what the instruments you describe really
sound like out of context.  With a synthesizer you would be able to customize
your sounds so they sound correct to you.  Your descriptions of the boxes
you have previewed suggest that you might have heard the Emu Proformance.
While the piano in the proformance is not the greatest of those available in
MIDIdom, they aren't that bad, and they should be capable of decieving a
trained ear for well over half second.  If you specifically asked for
orchestral sounds, I would be surprised if you weren't shown a Proteus II.
The Proteus II has some incredibly good samples of solo orchestral instruments
in it.  In as much as they are 16 bit, 40KHz+ samples of 'real' instruments,
they should (and do, BTW) sound like 'real' instruments.  Unfortunately,
when a 'real' instrument sounds out of context, it sounds artificial.  Also,
when, say, a violin is played with rock-piano technique, it doesn't sound
much like a violin.  So, assuming you have heard a reasonably high quality
sample player, your choices are few.  Either you can go out and get yourself
some experience listening to orchestral instruments play out of context so
that you can be satisfied that sample players really do faithfully produce
the instrument they sampled, or you can get yourself a synthesizer and
make the sounds available fit your personal idea of their sounds.

John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: wb@tornado.kodak.com (wb@tornado.kodak.com)
Subject: FOR SALE: Stereo Dynamics Controller
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (Telstar), Rochester, N.Y. 14653
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:06:01 GMT

Hello,

I have an A.R.T. audio signal processor for sale.
I will pay all shipping!

Master Dynamics Controller(MDC) 2001, Stereo Dyanmics Processor which has:
Compressor/Limiter/De-esser/Exciter/Expander.

=====> $250

This unit is NOT dual channel! It is best served in a stereo processing
situation. I use one in conjunction w/ mastering to DAT (with a BBE
Sonic Maximizer in the chaing) and another one with my stereo TV!
The difference on the TV is amazing! Especially considering I have
NAD and Dalquist equipment! 

The unit is *very* quiet with studio quality 120db S/N ratio. Very
sensitive noise gate and compression capabilities.

Help me pay for my studio remodeling!

Thanks for considering this post.

If you decide to respond to this post, please note that you must
"SEND" to wb@tornado.kodak.com rather than "REPLY" 'cause the "REPLY TO"
address is "nobody@kodak.com," irrepairably so...


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: Re: Korg DSS1 keyboard/sampler/synthesizer
Summary: Opinions
Organization: Atomic City
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:02:31 GMT

In article <wiley.718053455@crooks> wiley@wiley.b11.ingr.com writes:
>I have a friend who wants to sell a Korg DSS1.  Both he and I were
>wondering what a fair market price for this would be today.  He thinks
>it was about $2000 new (a few years ago).

Hmf. Try about five years ago, which is forever in emusic terms. The DSS-1
sells for between $600 and $900 now, depending on its condition and the
size of the sound library included with it. If your friend has one of the
rare units with the RAM upgrade and built-in SCSI port, it will be worth
considerably more.

>I am wondering what other people's opinions on this synthesizer are?  Is
>there a significant difference between 12 bit and 16 bit sampling for
>home use?  I like the idea of sampler output fed into a synthesizer.  Are
>there any other sound modules which do this?

Many people like the added dynamic range and clarity of 16 bit sampling
over 12 bit, not to mention that fact that the newer 16-bit machines have
other advantages over the older units besides their resolution, like more
RAM and better features. However, the DSS-1 is the only sampler I have
ever really been tempted to buy more than once (I came within 24 hours
of buying one at least three times over the past three years), and it's
likely that I will eventually break down and get one. The reason is the
machine's architecture, that of a slightly enhanced DW-8000 with sampling
oscillators, is very familiar to me and very easy to learn to use. I have
always regarded the DSS-1 as a synthesizer with an expanded set of waveforms
rather than a traditional sampler-- it has nice features for creating 
single-cycle waves for use in synthesis, and has the delightfully retro 
ability to turn sample resolution down to 8, 7, or even 6 bits, introducing
all sorts of lovely cruft into the sound. What stopped me? Well, primarily
two things: one is its inability to load sounds from a hard disk, and its
paltry onboard memory. The other is its sheer size; it's a big-ass board,
and requires a sturdy stand to hold it up. I just don't have the room, alas.

>"Sniff.  Sniff.  Smells like a newbie to me!"
>
>You're right.

The cure for newbiedom is to stick around and contribute. Welcome to r.m.s.!




-- 
metlay            | and she's a master of return hitting          
atomic city       | giving rhythm to her posts
                  | so you read her and think hey it sounds good
metlay@netcom.com | and wish her posts had a soundtrack too    (f. ercolessi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: Re: Sam Ash Email?
Organization: Atomic City
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:05:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.112106.17555@stc.nato.int> koelman@stc.nato.int writes:
>In article <92272.135438MRLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>  writes:
>>  Is there any email address for Sam Ash Music in N.Y. or anywhere else?
>> Could you please mail me the number or post it. Thank you.
>
>Is there *any* music store on e-mail?
>(just curious)

72130.1746@compuserve.com gets you to Jamie Robertson at Music Services,
Birmingham AL, the best allaround store for people who prefer buying 
gear via mail order that I've come across so far. Tell him Metlay sent you.

(No, I don't get a cut. But Jamie likes to track how his customers learn 
about his store.)



-- 
metlay            | "It's the probability of some Perf/X box being dead or
                  |  wedged that I have to worry about. This week, it's the
                  |  Systemizer that's pining for the fjords."
metlay@netcom.com |                                       (e. hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: Re: TECHNO Samples...
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Summary: Eek!
Organization: Atomic City
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:18:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.014704.23677@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:

>Every sound you could ever need has already been made; you just have to
>find them.

Am I just old and humorless, or is anyone else out here as disturbed
by this statement as I am? I'm sorry, Mike, but every sound *I* need
is buried in the circuits of some synthesizer or another, waiting for
my imagination to bring it out. I won't argue that it takes ingenuity
and skill to turn sampled beats into worthwhile techno, but you should
note that just about anyone who's made it in the business so far
utilizes original synthesizer programs in addition to the stuff they
sample. Neither Cybotron, 808 State, Nine Inch Nails, nor Front 242
has gotten to where they are with no sounds of their own....

BTW, anyone have a copy of Negativland's "U2" that I could bootleg?

-- 
metlay            | and she's a master of return hitting          
atomic city       | giving rhythm to her posts
                  | so you read her and think hey it sounds good
metlay@netcom.com | and wish her posts had a soundtrack too    (f. ercolessi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: hector@cs.toronto.edu (Hector Levesque)
Subject: Re: U-20/U-220 patch editors...hmmmmm.
Keywords: PCM, U220
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:10:42 GMT

In article <67046@cup.portal.com> Randomizer@cup.portal.com (Aron Fingers Nelson) writes:
>So a PATCH editor exists because the U-220 refers to PATCHES as a collection
>of parameters which reference TIMBRES to channels etc...
>You are correct in saying that there is no program available to edit
>the PCM samples or original tones.

That's what I thought too until I saw something advertised in KEYBOARD
(Valhala?) that allows U-220 compatible PCM samples to be created and dumped
onto blank cards.  Sounds like magic to me.  Anybody know more about this?

Hector Levesque
U. of Toronto


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: morty@midips.in-berlin.de (Martin Poetter)
Subject: Germany: Who sells TX-802?
Organization: Private Organisation fuer angewandte Informagie
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 15:11:56 GMT

Hi,

I'm searching for a used TX-802. Who wants to sell his one?

Greetings from Berlin,
Martin.

-- 
morty@midips.in-berlin.de
Martin Poetter / W1000 Berlin 20 / Germany
Student d. E-Technik, TU Berlin, 6. Sem.
From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Midi song - "Borderline - Madonna"
Date: 4 Oct 1992 17:52:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles) says:

>

>If you take a photograph of a cd, is that breaking copyright ?
>
>Davei 
>

Interesting question... and it would depend on the use to which it was put.
If it's just used as a prop, then, no, it wouldn't break any copyright. 
HOWEVER, if the picture was taken in such a way and with sufficient resolution
that it could be used as a master/mask to PRODUCE copies, then yes, it _would_
be a violation. You would also have to consider the presence of any graphics 
printed on the disk, and the possibility that, while the photo might not
violate the copyright on the MUSIC, it might well violate that on the graphic!
-- 
 Joe Ellis  o/~ The Synthetic Filker o/~    |     TesserAct Studios
     Internet:   usr6184a@tso.uc.edu        |       P.O. Box 18577
        GEnie:   J.ELLIS22                  |     Fairfield, OH 45018
    All filked up and no place to sing!     |   New Dimensions In Filk!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.audio.pro
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:08:40 CST
From:         Rod Lemcke <LEMCKERO@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Please read this if you sended material for my radio show
              1 Oct 1992 10:40:52 BSC from <87141167@BRUFSC.BITNET>

Hi, it's good to hear from you again.  The song that I recorded for the CD is
not being relesed until next month and I will send you copies of my songs as
soon as I can.    Thanks, Talk to you later...
                                               Rod L.
From: rjt2@bnr.co.uk (Richard J. Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Request for SY55 Info
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:11:02 GMT
Reply-To: rjt2@bnr.co.uk (Richard J. Thomas)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

Hello!

I am considering buying a 2nd-hand SY55, but as these are now discontinued it
is very difficult to get information on it, let alone to see the beast! I have
been trying out the new SY35 and found its voices of pretty good quality and
variety for the money ( ..love that slap-bass sound ). The prospect of better
quality samples and a rudimentary sequencer on the SY55 appeals to me.

Any answers on the following appreciated:

1. Is the SY55 the same as a TG55, plus a keyboard and sequencer?

2. Are the SY55 AWM2 samples much better than the SY35 AWM ones?

3. Do the on-board filters, envelopes and voice mixing produce much useful
   variation in sound?

4. What is the spec of the on-board sequencer?  (Saying just "Basic" doesn't
   really help me :-) Can I download sequences to an external sequencer via
   MIDI?

5. I hear the Modulation & Pitch Bend wheels are in an odd position - true? Is
   this awkward?

Any general feedback from SY55 users is MOST welcome.


Thanks in advance!

Richard Thomas
From: kentaro@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Wanted:D-50 Manual.
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:54:03 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I
 just bought a used Roland D-50 and I was wondering if any body
could send me a copy of the manual.

I will pay the copying fee and shipping and handeling.


Please reply to
kentaro@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
kentaro@cadlab.engr.ukans.edu

thanx in advance.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:09:10 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Keyboard feel (was: Re: CZ101 for sale)
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@ada3.ca.boeing.com

"(Neil Weinstock)" <nsw@CBNEWSM.CB.ATT.COM> sez:

>Which only goes to prove one thing, and I don't know what it is...

Ah, yes.  "There was a lingering smell of cologne.  Peppermint Patchouli.
There was only one man in Los Angeles sensitive enough to wear Peppermint
Patchouli, and I had to find out who it was." -- Nick Danger
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: 4MBx9-80ns SIMMs for sale
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:36:00 GMT


Yes, I realized you posted the (or best offer disclaimer).  I wasn't trying
to suggest you were being improper.  Ah, I see that you are looking at GSA
pricing as your basis.  Like the $400 toilet seats, GSA pricing is no
guarantee of any kind of deal.  I, too, was talking about 9-bit wide SIMMs.
I was also talking about 70ns and faster SIMMs. Last week, I ordered two
SIMMs Sabina (4X9 70ns) and paid $92.50/SIMM.  A quick look at the chip
section in PC-Week od Sep 21, reveals that the average price for 70ns 4x9
SIMMs is $102.  The average price for 60ns parts is $103.  Prices are going
down constantly.  I wouldn't be surprised if you could find 80ns 4x9s
for about $78 if you tried hard enough.

John
From: rjt2@bnr.co.uk (Richard J. Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sources for CEM VCOs? (Fixing a Roland SH101)
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:11:09 GMT
Reply-To: rjt2@bnr.co.uk (Richard J. Thomas)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

Greetings netters!

Seeing all this resurgence in interest in Roland SH101s spurred me on to try
to fix one I acquired from a friend a while back. I have traced the problem to
the VCO which quite happily sits buzzing away at 40kHz and not much else. The
device is as follows:

CEM 3340 (Curtis Electromusic Specialities)

I have the full data sheet on it and it appears the circuit around it is OK.
Hence I need a source for a new one.

Anybody know where I can get them? Preferably, but not solely, within the UK.
I know a company called DIGISOUND used to distribute them, but that was 10
years ago and I don't know if they are still in business.

Any help welcomed!

Richard Thomas
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: arendi@loke.soo.dec.com 
Subject: Re: Cubeat and Cubase files
Reply-To: arendi@loke.soo.dec.com  (Jaak A)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:41:45 GMT



	I suspect that the file format is not downward compatible
	but You can always try using the midifiles.


		Jack
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ochikubo@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Craig F. Ochikubo)
Subject: Re: Microphone Help Recieved So Far
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:49:47 GMT

In article <BvCyy4.DEt@unccsun.uncc.edu> mpdavis@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael Parker Davis) writes:
>  pedestrian priced (at $52)
>      Radio Shack PZM  (rumoured to be identical to a Crown PZM)
>

I have heard of some hot rods that can be done to a Radio Shack PZM
to make it sound even better (in addition to changing to a higher
voltage battery).  Can anyone provide details on how to perform such
magic?????

craig
ochikubo@desperado.etdesg.trw.com
.
From: ptl@cs.tut.fi (Launiainen Petri)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: DATs with both SCSI and audio I/O ???
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:16:45 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: naakka.cs.tut.fi
Originator: ptl@naakka.cs.tut.fi

Are there DATs that have both SCSI (and act as standard SCSI tape
units) *and* audio I/O in a single machine ??  Am I asking too much ???

I'll make a compilation of replies if something shows up.

/petri
---
Petri Launiainen # "Everything takes more time than you can ever imagine"
Tampere          # 
Finland          #                     - Murphy's second corollary
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: more Come Together
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:01:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Oct2.170125.27239
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement) writes:

>[Come Together discussion deleted]
>>"Shoot" sounded like the first turn of the dial and
>>Ringo's fill immediately afterward sounded like the

>Shouldn't that be "Paul's fill"???

No. Ringo's cymbal riff. (sounds like dial clicking off
the numbers)

I know this is a silly bit, I just thought I'd share
it with everyone.

PS I don't usually think of the song in those terms anymore,
either... (ah, lost youth...)

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Scott J. Kleper)
Subject: Re: remakes
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:24:54 GMT

I didn't realize that this topic was generating replies. I haven't
checked the group in a while. I'm the guy who posted originally.
I've been talking with somebody else about this, and we've come
up with a few others that are OK. Neither of us liked U2's HSkelter,
but he kind of apologized for remaking a Beatles song before it
on Rattle n' Hum, so I guess that's OK. I just can't stand things
like "I saw HIM standing there." That's where I draw the line. We
also got to discussing M. Jackson owning the rights. What do you
think? Is he protecting them, or should nobody own the Beatles?
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: takamay@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Yui Takamatsu)
Subject: Paul's Southend
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:39:19 GMT

This may be a bit old but I heard that Paul played the harmonica on a song  
called "Down to the River" at his Southend concert(did he do it in  
Cornwall too?).  If he did, what is the song like?  Is it his song?  Is it  
likely to be on the new album?   
Anything about the song is welcome.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: remakes
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:42:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.144641.20386@ncsu.edu> jadillin@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ANTHON DILLINGHAM) writes:
>
>Maybe some of you loyal rmb'ers can help with something.  I recently heard
>a remake of 'I've got a feeling' on the local college radio station.  It 
>actually wasn't all that bad, not even close to the original, but tolerable.
>

Actually, if it is the Pearl Jam version, it is indeed fairly close to the
original.  Eddie whatsisname does change up the lyrics considerably
(plenty of in-jokes, and bizarre stuff only a PJ fan would understand, so says
a friend who is one)  But then, the lyrics to the song were always rather 
stream-of-consciousness anyway.

>Anyway, does anyone know who sings it?  It sorta sounded like Pearl Jam or
>Soundgarden or someone along those lines.  Your help is appriciated!
>

For the record, (and totally unrelated to this topic)  Joe Walsh is back out
on tour *again*.  His venue in Houston is a 1000 - 1500 capacity *bar*.   Guess
this makes me feel a bit better about the smallish venues Ringo played a couple
months back...


<ESC>
-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)