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From: kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (KOTSINES  THOMAS ANT)
Subject: Re: NITZER EBB QUESTI0N...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:31:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.131919.6549@gw.wmich.edu> x92reed5@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>COULD SOMEBODY SEND ME A LIST OF NITZER EBB CD TITLES?
>
LP's: Ebbhead
      Showtime
      Belief
      That Total Age
      So Bright, So Strong
...and a plethora of singles.

[/]
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry Lyrics
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:25:47 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND) writes:

> Two things with So what.
> 1st line:  Scum sucking definitive debauch...anal fuckfest thrill olympics...
> Later in the song:  A screaming headache of the promised fate(or maybe 'that'
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


	I always thought it was....

	"A screaming headache on the proud estate"


	I have a couple of lyrics files. Someday I'll see what others say.





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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk
From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Robocopulation Thread - An Abridged History
Followup-To: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu
Summary: Deth's Head. Nyx Posts. Evidence.
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: World
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:24:37 GMT

I'm a comptuer consultant at Jarthur. I've been doing some investigations
about some of the problems originating from Nyx. 

Could anyone who has any finger logs or Deth Head's posts please send
them to me.

If I have enough date/time combinations and if the person is a user
of our computer system, I will be able to figure out who it is from
our system logs. So if you ever typed finger dhedd@nyx.cs.du.edu
and saved the output or captured any of his posts, please send
them to ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu.

Thanks for the help.
From: u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:53:02 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <1992Nov20.201847.16640@athena.mit.edu>, lcwu@athena.mit.edu (Lawren C Wu) writes:
> Anyone know of other groups out there that sound like the last tracks off of
> Skinny Puppy's "Last Rights" album (tracks 6-12)?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Lawren
> lcwu@athena.mit.edu

I think you will be hard pressed to find a group which sounds like/is as good
as the end of the Last Rights album.  

But...if you are willing to try something in a similar vien, but quite
different in feel to Skinny Puppy you should taste the following...

Johannes Schmoeling (sp?! I have no idea how to spell his name, but this should 
give you a start) "White Out" - Ambient-ish, dark, sound-scape (like the end of 
LRights). Try the first track and the "Antarctica" track.   

On the Extreme Label (Australian label, distributed by Cargo in the US) there
is an artist (whose name escapes me, but if you get a hold of a catalogue
shouldn't be too hard to find - there are only about 20 albums on Extreme at the
moment) who produced an album "Music for Bondage" or some such thing...it is
quite violent and prone to similar noisy sounds as found on the end of LRights. 
So if you like the sounds rather than the (incredible) structure of those
tracks you may like this.

Also on Extreme, but in a different direction, is Paul Schutze.  His works are
'film-soundtrack-like' but have some very interesting moments in them.  oh, and
the first 'sounds' you hear on his new album "New Maps of Hell" is of a
recording done in a car park underneath a bowling alley.(!) well worth a
listen.  

And, speaking of soundtracks, the music to Alien 3 is quite industrial
streangth good.

I could mention other productions, but i am not sure in which direction to go
without digressing too much from Last Rights. what an album. i've programed my
CD player to skip tracks 1-4.  I am afraid that Skinny Puppy are treading new
ground when it comes to electronic-noise-soundscape recordings of this quality
and i think it will be some time before other groups emerge which will produce
similar work.  


check ya

drew.



Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:17:29 -0500 
From: Jason Nathaniel Cohen <jcas+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Who's the first?

Just curious on opinions out there on who had the first industrial as we
know it now sound?????  Was Sp the first to really synthesize voice?  Im
sure groups had done it somewhat before but I mean completely like SP
did does and is copied.THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OF WHO WAS FIRST
'INDUSTRIAL' BAND. E......N..... whatever way you say it I guess would
be the answer for that one.  Just who started the fucked voice
thing??????


THis
    is

        my
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        If we could fly away on wings
        To a place where all could be true
        And the skies were blue
        And Love was true
        And me and YOU
        How I wish the sun would shine
        How I wish the the sun would shine!!!!


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+

DOWD:book of the bone volume V track XII
       x    x
x    x   x    x   x
  xx     x      x 
              x
     xx  xx   
     xx  xx 
    
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    SPOO!
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Al, Commercial manipulation, and attitude
Keywords: Al manipulation indutrial music pighead
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 13:23:36 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

	I just saw on CNN that grandpa Al left his wife and kid,
and is moving in with Madonna. Apparently they met while he was
producing Madonna's last EP.




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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Nurse With Wound, "Thunder Perfect Mind"
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:04:52 GMT

In article <Bxsq43.A5y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
>Late in the week before last, I ordered both "Thunder Perfect Mind"
>albums (Current 93 and Nurse With Wound); they came in early last week.
>
>My only previous exposure to Nurse With Wound is "The Sylvie and Babs
>Hi-Fi Companion".
>
>There are two tracks on NWW's "Thunder Perfect Mind":  "Cold" and
>"Colder Still".
>
> (review of album deleted)
>
>You should buy this album (and its Current 93 companion).
>

I would tend to disagree.  Not because the music is bad.  I found "Cold"
to be a little TOO tedious, but "Colder Still" is excellent.

I feel however that considering it may only be available as an import (which
is how *I* purchased it), it cost 30 dollars.  Hardly worth THAT much.

Nevertheless, it was my first NWW purchase (and only to date), and it did
picque my curiousity.  Perhaps, judging from some other posts, I ought to
get some Current 93...if indeed the "Colder Still" was more reminiscent of
them.

Mad Poo

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: synergy@hardy.u.washington.edu (The Bob next door)
Subject: Re: soleilmoon
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:14:12 GMT

Soleilmoon is (or was anyway) run through Ooze records of Portland
through which you can also get a monthly listing of new releases.
I have found their listing to be very complete and of great use.
(their mail order and special order depts have NEVER let me down!)
Here I was about to give you their store address, but I seem to 
have lost it!  Sigh...  Well, call 1-503-555-1212 and they
should be able to give you the store phone and fax numbers.
From: aclaasse@nyx.cs.du.edu (Arne Claassen)
Subject: RE: KMFDM
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Crumb's 4'33"
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 03:07:37 GMT


Ok, this came from a KMFDM newletter given out by the band (or their
T-shirt selling workers) at the Atlanta Concert, the name, they call their
untranslatable meaning of KMFDM is "Keine Mehrheit fuer die Mitleid",
which is rather poor German grammar and translates to something like "No
Majority for the Pity". Properly (that is to make some sense) it should be
"Kein Mitleid fuer die Mehrheit", ie "No Pity for the Majority"

It also listed some of the speculative names people have sent to them in
Fan mail. 

So much for my fuenfzig Pfennige.

-Arne

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Subject: Re: Chicago Ministry Tix For Sale
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:51:11 GMT


What a fucking nightmare.  For some reason when I read this subject line
I thought it said "Chicago/Ministry Tix for Sale"... what a scary billing
combo for a concert!

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From: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: ZENI GEVA
Date: 23 Nov 1992 06:15:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu




No the song "Godflesh" is not a cover.
ZENI GEVA rules live and on album....

"STONE..... CRUSHER"

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: cs422coll@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Ken Collins)
Subject: Re: PTV for sale
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:11:00 GMT

Let me try this again,

If you have questions about the disks, please mail me.  I didn't want to
take up everyone's time describing minutes detail of each one.  Again, if
you are interested in any of the albums, please ask, and we can discuss the
price or possible trades.  As I said before, I am not the person selling
the various albums, I am not a collector, etc.  I'm just doing this for a
friend.  I assure you that none of the albums have ever been used as
coasters.  Enough said.

Ken Collins

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Meat Beat Cancelling Shows
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:09:01 GMT

Has anyone in the United States actually SEEN Meat Beat
Manifesto on this raveorama that is the Communion tour?
They just postponed a show scheduled for theis past Friday
in Chicago to December 5.  The good old Immigration and 
Naturalization Service is at fault for this one, and you
all thought all the INS did was give Mexican migrant 
workers shit.  They should have been in the U.S. a while
ago.  Since they are postponing and not cancelling, do
they have the visa stuff essentially sorted out?  Does
anyone know.  Thank Congress for this one, kids.  That
new "artistic merit" law really hits where it hurts.


				   Ramona

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: Voice Distortion?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 09:07:54 GMT

joe@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Question Authority) writes:

>	I am feeling the need for some really cool voice distortion on my radio show, so my ? is this: What is the best way to do it?  Best brand of f/x box? etc...	

I really liked the Art SGE Mach II.  It is really good for studio work, but
it sometimes proved difficult in live performance.


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From: xine@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (the strawberry girl)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Big Catholic Guilt Concert
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:00:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1e959uINNhen@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mute@penny.WPI.EDU (The Amazing Immolating Man) writes:

>
>And the opening band, Canister, was pretty cool too...

	i don't know... they seemed more to be more concerned with 
	females than with music... maybe i'm silly, but i think a
	band should get together to make music, not to worry about
	which of them is getting the chicks... 

							--xine


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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: read alt.overlords
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:15:35 GMT

Join the Omnipotent Overlords of the Omniverse today. Add to intelligent    	
political, environmental, and social discussions. Buck the growing trend of 
apathy in the world today, and most importantly have some well earned fun.  
Read all about us on alt.overlords or e-mail : jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu    
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political, environmental, and social discussions. Buck the growing trend of 
apathy in the world today, and most importantly have some well earned fun.  
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Subject: Re: Meat Beat Man.
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:36:23 GMT

Meat Beat Manifesto/Orbital tour:

>17th	Boulder
>18th	Salt Lake City
>19th	San Francisco
>21st	Los Angeles
>22nd	Tuscon
>25th	Houston
>26th	Dallas?

I got these dates off r.m.i. or alt.rave last week:

24 Dallas
25 Houston

28 Orlando

N.B. No shows in Portland, Seattle or Vancouver, apparently. God bless
Nirvana. 

Richard

how do you work that 'sig' thing?


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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: MSZABO@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Re: NIN does too sound like Ministry and what's this about Foetus?
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:05:50 GMT

  I think that Ministry is rather boring in its continuous monotonous buzzings
and whirrings...  It's great driving music, yes...  It's great moshing music,
yes...  It's great stage diving music, yes...  It's great "wake me up with
a headache" music, yes...
   BUT... Is it GREAT music?   Not really.
 
If you can possibly believe that Al Jourgensen is a dedicated innovator
in industrial music, then the Go-Go's wrote Anne Franc's diary.
 
Ministry (include also other Ministry related projects i.e., PigFace, Lead
Into Gold, Acid Horse, RevCo...) could probably put out 5 albums a year
considering the time they must spend on writing and recording material.
I still love all that music anyway, but I will never put them on the same
level as NIN or, say Nitzer Ebb, or perhaps even an un-industrial band
like     U2, simply because I think Ministry is "lazy" music whereas the others
are not.  I wonder how much longer the current Ministry trend of "louder and
harder" can continue before they actually have to start working again.
 
-=> POINT <=-
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Chicago Ministry Tix For Sale
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:42:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.185111.29704@cs.brown.edu> dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>
>What a fucking nightmare.  For some reason when I read this subject line
>I thought it said "Chicago/Ministry Tix for Sale"... what a scary billing
>combo for a concert!

No...you read that right...and just _wait_ 'til you hear this hot new duet
that they've got worked up! Yep, Peter Cetera's back, and if you thought the
song with Amy Grant was a mega-smash, just stand back and _groove_ on his
collaboration with Unca Al!!!
	And as soon as Al gets those squeaky-clean jazz-rockers hooked on
China White, well, you won't believe your ears! Can we say "Terry Kath lives",
everyone? Ooooooh...

>
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: CHICAGO - MINISTRY TIX FOR SALE
Followup-To: rec.music.industrial
Organization: Chicago IL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:56:23 GMT

Yes I'm posting again. I have to get rid of these things. I have two tix
for 11/27 Chicago -- Ministry with Sepultra and Helmet. If you're planning
to go but don't have tix yet, get these, because they're quite a bit
better than what you'll end up with at the door. I don't want to have
to deal with selling them outside the venue, so I'll probably take an
offer for less than the cover price (which is $22.50). I have two tix,
section 106.

Respond by email or call 312-508-0375.

__________________________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen         petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          jp@darkstar.com

                If mercy's in business I wish it for you-        
             More than just ashes when your dreams come true.
From: rht3@po.CWRU.Edu (Randall H. Thatcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Voice Distortion?
Date: 21 Nov 1992 07:36:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: rht3@po.CWRU.Edu (Randall H. Thatcher)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, joe@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Question Authority) says:

>	I am feeling the need for some really cool voice distortion on my radio show, so my ? is this: What is the best way to do it?  Best brand of f/x box? etc...	
>
>	Any help would be way cool,
>
>		 Thanx, 
>
>		  jOe...
>
>		        
>
>			
>				"I only hurt the ones I love."
>
>					   -- Madonna
>

I have played around with a yamaha spx-90 at my school's radio station.  I
also ran that signal through a reverb box (which can be bypassed).  I
haven't used it on the air though.  Give one a try...
-- 
Randall H. Thatcher                                  Uebung macht
rht3@po.CWRU.edu                                     den Meister!
tel/fax 216.754.1349
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: Re: Stein/Einsturzende NeubautenSELECT
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:38:12 GMT

u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:

>i think you are referng to F.M.Einhiet's (sp?) album. maybe not. BUT IF YOU
>ARE...That album is FANTASTIC!  I have been collecting FM's stuff for a couple
>of years and i have yet to be even slightly let down.   Highly recommended (by
>me!)  if you like EN you should like the FM stuff. 

I have nothing to add; I'd just like to say that I'm bitter because I
met him before the 1991 Chicago show (he walked up to me out of the
blue and asked a question) and I didn't realize who he was until he
started beating things on the stage...

--
Ben Cox
thoth@uiuc.edu
ok, so he doesn't look much like his SAA2 picture...
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay)
Subject: Re: rec.music.noise??????
Keywords: just checking
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:43:03 GMT

> In article <1992Nov20.044435.29834@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
> > I propose rec.music.silence. Either we can post endlessly about Crumb's
> >4'33" or just not post there at all. 


BWAHAHAHAHAAAA!

Crumb's 4'33'"?  Is that the one where they have a strange voice
saying "Don't mean sheeeeit" repeatedly for the length of the piece?

Snort.  Snicker.  Grin.


This has not been a flame.  If you think its a flame, you're far too
sensitive.



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