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From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Unix vs. DOS version...
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 18:09:32 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

Ok, I've been running Waffle for about two months, so it's put up or shut up
time when it comes to registering shareware.  The problem is that I'm ready to
convert this thing to *nix, so I'm concerned about getting the same features
under some flavor of *nix that I've got under DOS.  Specifically:

VMS -- is there a *nix version of the mail server, or one of the other ones?  I
like the fact that VMS handles both file server and mailing list functions.  If
no *nix version, I'd like some suggestions on a replacement.

WafMail -- I've got lots of users who like the convenience of using QWK
packets.  Back when I was a fidonet node, I didn't bother with the offline
readers, and just told everyone who wanted that luxury to become a point
system.  I suppose I could do something similar, but if there's a *nix version,
I'd like to retain the feature.

My problem here is that I'm familiar with *nix as an OS, but not as a medium
for news/mail.  All of the sites I've worked on have never bothered with mail,
so this is a new world for me.  TIA for any advice, suggestions.




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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: shroom
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 04:18:54 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

bo836@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard D. Mccombs) writes:
> 
> I found out that have version 1.6 but if there is a later version then I
> probably should get it.

I've got SHROOM 2.0a. You can get it from
'mail-server@giraffe.in-berlin.de'

/GET modem/waffle/shroom20.zip


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From: zot@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Chris Boebel)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Gate local newsgroups to mail
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:57:47 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)691-3865

Several of my users have gone away to school this year but would like to 
participate in the local groups. How can I get my local groups to mail so 
they can read and post remotely?

Thanks,
Chris

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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Shroom and Waffle
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:43:04 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:

> What good is it REALLY?  Will it disconnect my communications links to the
> modem for the duration of the command that was "shroomed"?
> 
> If you're using "SHROOM WAFFLE....." what are your parameters?  Or how
> are you using Shroom?
I love it.  I haven't had a problem yet. What shroom does is to detect any
drops-to-dos, and interecepts them. It first unloads the entire ram of the
machine onto the hard drive, and then calls up the command interpreter
you've specified. The net effect is to give you as much free room as your
machine will have, within certain limits. My parameters:
From my run.bat:

c:\util\shroom -q -sc:\waffle\temp c:\waffle\bin\waffle %1
[^^^^^^1^^^^^^ ^2 ^^^^^^^^3^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^4^^^^^^^^^^^]

1: Path to shroom
2: Quiet mode (no messages)
3: Path to temp directory to store contents of memory
4: commands

     You only use shroom "wrapped around" the program you want to trap the
command calls of. The reason it appears to break links to comm programs is
that while shroom is running actively (IE: it swapped memory onto the HD),
there *IS* no communications software-- it's on the hd in the temp file.

     What I would is this: I would try using shroom in your run.bat. At
first, I would not specify the -q(uiet mode), so that you can see what
it's doing. Then type RUN to execute the batch file. I would *manually*
poll one of your neighbors (via "P"), and see how shroom/waffle reacts.
You can always strip it out of your RUN.BAT file. Also, try this: (it
amazed the snot out of me!) Log into Waffle, with both shroom loaded and a
privied account. Type MEM to see how much memory is free. Then hit ALT-J
to J(ump to dos). Then do a checkdisk (chkdsk) to see how much memory is
free. I'll bet dollars to donuts that chkdsk reports about 200-300K more
than MEM did-- This accounts for waffle, and its allocated memory. Type
EXIT to get back to Waffle.

     All in all, I've been running SHROOM for about a year now, with NO
problems whatsoever. I can't gaurauntee you'll have the same results, but
here's a look at both machines I've run it on:

8086/10, 640K, 20mb HD   Dos 3.30, Waffle 1.64/1.65
80386/16,2MB, 130MB HD   Dos 5.01, Waffle 1.65

Hope this helps! Also, feel free to mail me, or post, if you have any
questions about shroom with waffle. I've had nothing but success with it!
Two thumbs up! :-)

                                   Jeff


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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Looking for 1.65 -> 1.64 mail exploder
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 07:36:42 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) writes:

| Someone had mentioned they were using a 1.65 -> 1.64 mail exploder with
| the 1.64 version of WafMail.  Anyone know where I can find the exploder
| program?

I have a program called Jenna which does this and then some!  I was
writing a fax gateway which used it - I've been almost losing my
mind over that one!  The fax gateway was written entirely using 4DOS batch
files.

I can send Jenna to you if you like - the fax gateway is not exactly done,
but...  Just give the word, I'll send you a copy.


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From: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problem with write-command ?
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:03:42 GMT
Reply-To: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <9sJ4qB3w165w@jybox.jyu.fi>, otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
>Anyone else noticed problems with the write command ?  I just got the
>wcp161.zip uuencoded from a mail server, and when I saved it I twice
>got uuencode file interrupted by ^A's.  Perhaps a length limitation ?
>I ended up taking the whole mailbox.f into emacs and munging it there.

I've had a problem similar to that .. if you mail someone a message
with a single ^M in it somewhere (instead of ^M^J or ^J) then when
they read the message Waffle displays that message, the ^A's and then
the next message.  It also seems to happen when mailing large files
to people.  I've never tried Writing the message so not sure if it
would save the ^A's to a file.



Pat.
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problem with write-command ?
Summary: Not at this DOS Waffle site
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:49:53 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:

> Anyone else noticed problems with the write command ?  I just got the
> wcp161.zip uuencoded from a mail server, and when I saved it I twice
> got uuencode file interrupted by ^A's.  Perhaps a length limitation ?
> I ended up taking the whole mailbox.f into emacs and munging it there.

I just processed that yesterday and had no trouble with the
W)rite command.  I write to a RAM drive appending the parts, then
use QED to delete the header and clean up the space between the pieces.
Most times this is un-necessary but sometimes the uudecode barfs on
the trash in a raw W)rite file.  I dezip it off the RAM drive now
too.  Very speedy for this disk intensive stuff.

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From: chorn@eastwind.mcds.com (Christopher Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Cookie Press 1.61 available
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:10:44 EDT
Organization: The East Wind  +1 201 875 7063


   I've just finished up version 1.61 of the Waffle Cookie press and
am now making it available to anyone that is interested. The program
is a replacement cookie command for DOS based versions of Waffle,
and offers the following :

- Multiline cookies. Anywhere from one to eighteen lines are supported.
- Anonymous signatures. Cookies are no longer stamped if you so choose.
  If you want stamping, the date is also optional.
- Log file. In case you need to know who's turning in bad cookies.
- Some Zippy file support. You can now use the cookie file for short
  cookies, and the zippy file for longer quotes. Thus you have better
  control over where long verses might appear.
- Full support for the LIST extension. The last version I widely
  released didn't recognize the COOKIE LIST command, or COOKIE 5 to
  show the last five entered.
- A new HELP extension will display a help file about the command.
  The file is customizable, of course.
- Almost fully configurable. Almost all the parameters are specified in
  an external config file, now including any paths the program
  needs to use. Hopefully will eliminate problems some people had
  with earlier versions that made assumptions about your directory
  structure.

   The file name should be WCP161.ZIP I've asked someone to hatch
it into the southern california uucp file echo on fidonet, and
plan on uploading it within the next day or two to Halcyon.
It is also available on The East Wind +1 201 875 7063, or from
mail-server@eastwind.mcds.com with the line /GET waffle/wcp161.zip


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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Can Waffle read news from nntp?
Keywords: nntp
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:54:43 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

>GeraldR@sunfish.ratsys.com (Gerald Ruderman) writes:

>>Does the latest Waffle have the ability to read news via NNTP?

>It most certainly can.  What we don't have via our NFS-mounted news
>spools is read and posted remotely.

I'm just about to set up Waffle and NFS. I thought maybe it would
be enough to just NFS-mount the spool directory for Waffle. Do
you think that's going to work OK?

Dave

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 16:48:42 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes:

> Also, I wasn't sure if I should be saving the original message or
> the message with bounce text included. I opted for original message,
> so that it could be forwarded without looking like a bounce. But
> maybe with bounce text should be the correct solution.

I would have to agree that including the bounce text is the way to go. A
message forwarded to a user that does not look like a bounce won't alert
the user there is a problem at all. At least with bounce text, he/she
will know the original went back to the sender, and why. Would help the
users clear up routing problems themselves rather than having the
sending party just get a bounced message back.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Disabling autoanswer
From: bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:34:43 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: 1776 Enterprises, Sudbury MA

otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
> Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org> writes:
> > AUTO-ATA is wonderful.  I had my batch files all hacked up to turn
> > off auto-answer each time I left waffle, such as to run cron stuff
> > or poll.  But every so often the modem would answer just after exiting
> > Waffle but just before my batch file could turn off auto-answer.  
> 
> The other alternative is what I use, set up the modem to reset when DTR is
> deasserted.  This will also keep it from answering when DTR is held down,
> as it is while Waffle waffles around with cron events.

Hmmm...  I see that part of my modem's default response to loss of DTR is to
disable auto-answer.  (It also hangs up and goes to the command state.)  So
I guess that's the answer to my original question: auto-answer gets turned
off when Waffle lets go of the modem.  A related question: Does Waffle de-
assert DTR when a local login occurs?  (Maybe not, since it would seem to
make the OFFHOOK option in the STATIC file unnecessary.)

> Works like a charm, but of course there is the possibility that Waffle may 
> crash leaving DTR up (has happened a couple of times, though quite rare).

But neither AUTO-ATA nor any other user-controllable setting can prevent
that, right?

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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Cookie Press 1.61 available and online!
Summary: I do a back-up dance around the issues.  Is it good?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:06:29 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> In article <6Fm4qB2w165w@slic.cts.com> mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writ
> |I added Zippy also.  This is great because I had combined the
> |zippy and cookie files as there was no way to get to the Zippy
> |file from waffle.
> 
> Since when?
> 
> Echo %Z, or put ~%Z in a text file.  My extern /waffle/extern/zippy is:
> /command="echo %Z" /waffle

Those 3 methods work nicely.

I should have said there is no way (known to me) to view/enter a
Zippy quote.  A double cop-out for me.   :-)

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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: rn question
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 11:08:51 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253


Is there any way to go back into rn and RE-read old messages?

Right now, I keep having to revert to "read" (ugh!) to read old messages -
I know there is a "/fast" or some-such option which is causing rn to skip
groups with read messages, but I don't relish the thought of going through
my 20 or so newsgroups (some of which are VERY quiet) every time I want to
read.

I tried "rn <group>" but that didn't do it.

The reason for all this is because I might read all the messages, then
want (later) to reply to one of them.  A new post is no prob; "post <group>"
does the job.


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From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waf1.64-XT-HST/DS- only getting 350cps
Keywords: s l o w
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 09:01:31 EDT
Organization: Whoever you vote for, the government still gets elected.

rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld) writes:

> > cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (Darin Cowan (root)) writes:
> >
> > Last time I tried to get one I was quoted nz$75 ( about US$40 )
> > and that was from a wholesaler.
> > 
> > I wouldn't mind finding out a cheap source in the US who take Visa....
> > 

Try JDR Microdevices at +1 408 559 1200 (18003660260 in US).  They take
Visa/MC/Discover.  They have the NS16550AFN for $14.95, although when I ordered
a couple the salesdroid insisted there was no "AFN" on it.  But, nonetheless, I
got the AFN..



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From: donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: sig length in waffle
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:44:05 GMT
Organization: The Brewer's Witch BBS, +1 713 272 7350, Brewich.Hou.TX.US

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:
> 
> >> Keep in mind, also, that the '--' is in actuality a '-- ' and that
> 
> >I wasnt aware there was a space in there. Regardless, who ever listens to
> >the purists? ;-)
> 
> Rule No. 6:  There is no Rule No. 6
> 

Rule No. 7: No Pooftas!

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From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The Moderator's Assistant is available
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:50:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Sep8.095000.21674
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505

bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick (Spokane)) writes:

>roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

>: The Moderator's Assistant, version 1.12, is available from halcyon.com
>: or (soon) SIMTEL20 and its mirror sites.  The filename is TMA112.ZIP.
>: (SIMTEL20 should have it under <msdos.waffle>)

>Uh, Roy --where on halcyon is it? I went hunting for it and it wasn't
>there. 

~/pub/waffle.  We took a nap and things got behind.  Also, our files
index is out of synch with what's there.  We'll work on that this week.
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Amazing ADMIN entries!
Summary: How are THESE admin options accessed!?
Keywords: dos waffle 165
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 19:30:45 EDT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

Hi everyone!

I was looking through the WAFFLE.EXE binary (DOS 1.65 version) looking 
for header lines so I would know what kinds of headers can be altered 
(using the ALTER static option, of course) when I came across some very 
strange text strings that really piqued my interest.

They appear to be related to ADMIN functions.  Here are a few:
  - Most excellent.
  - Leave no traces (permanent poof)
  - Generate fake line noise
  - Access to SHELL
  - Monitor this user (Big Brother)
  - Permanent account
  - User may call during primetime hours
  - Enforce file transfer hours
  - File section manager
  - Include signature on messages
  - Can post anonymously
  - Use of JOIN or KILL files
  - Allow batch (multifile) transfers
  - Feedback accepted
  - User can create PLAN file

Wow!  Some of these could be *very* helpful -- such as "Leave no traces", 
"Enforce file transfer hours", and, of course, "Generate line noise". :-)

Are these available in some way or are they just unfinished business for 
1.66?!?

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From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 10:55:10 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org> writes:
> system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> 
> > Why not just add the following lines to the end of your POLLing batch
> > file?
> > 
> > if exist \user\system\orphan.f copy \user\system\orphan.* \user\{your dir}
> > if exist \user\system\orphan.f del \user\system\orphan.*
> > 
> > This will move the orphan folder into your user directory where you
> > can access it easily.
> 
> Because bounces from one poll will be overwritten by bounces from a 
> later poll.  You need to append the files and re-index.

I knew I was missing something... The following should work better.

  if not exist \user\system\orphan.f goto end
  cd\user\{your dir}
  if exist orphan.f ren orphan.f orphan.bak
  copy orphan.bak+\user\system\orphan.f orphan.f
  del \user\system\orphan.*
  makebox -i orphan.f
  :end

This will append new messages to any existing ones, then re-indexes the
file.



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From: dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 1.65 for Xenix - where is it?
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:07:10 GMT
Organization: I mistook my BBS for a hat

In article <y7aTqB10w164w@qed.cts.com> tim@qed.cts.com (Tim Capps) writes:

>I have sent off a couple of letters to Uncle Tom, but I guess he's
>busy or something.

I have not received any mail from you recently.

>So... does anybody else know how I am supposed to get 1.65 for Xenix?
>I am running 1.64 now.  I was hoping that it would just show up in
>my mailbox at some point.  Apparently, I'm sadly mistaken in this
>assumption.

>What IS the procedure?

Anyone who purchased a Unix Waffle, or DOS source, can notify me of
their current address to get a copy. I will generally only send an upgrade
once or twice in the postal mail, after which direct downloads must
suffice (or reimbusement for postage & materials). The upgrades themselves
cost nothing. Since the DOS version registration is only $30, those people 
will receive only a disk once. 

Long ago, in 1989 and early 1990, disks weren't sent to DOS registers,
since none was promised. If any of those people now want a disk, I will 
be happy to send one.

...Tom

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell