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From: esposito@hamlet.uncg.edu (Andrew Joseph Esposito)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: sex in a lucid dream.
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:43:33 GMT
Organization: not affliated with any

>In article <z2dpm_=@lynx.unm.edu> preiser@cancer.unm.edu (Doug Preiser) 
writes:
>>In article <gj156879.718309868@cunews>, gj156879@prince.carleton.ca 
  (gj student 156879) writes:

>>In one dream, after realizing it was a dream, I went around
>>questioning dream characters about who they were and what they were
>>doing there.  It struck me that the dream is ME as a whole, where the
>>dream character ME is my conscious ME, my EGO, or whatever.  When I
>>went around asking the characters who they were and what they were
>>doing there, they seemed scared.  It was very bizarre.  I've also had
>>a dream where I went lucid and someone was bothering me, so I decided
>>to fly away.  He said "I can fly after you" and hoverred above the
>>ground.  I woke up after that.
>> 
>>And has anyone ever flown through solid matter?
>
>I flew through a glass picture window once.  Felt kind of weird, but the glass
>didn't break.  I've had less success going through walls. I seem to get stuck.

I flew through a floor once.  It was very hard and it bent like latex rubber 
where I touched it.  I was thinking of a technique used in the old Superman 
TV series, where Superman walks through a wall to catch a criminal encased 
in a lead lined room for 6 years, 364.75 days.  (Almost declared legally 
dead, and therefore not eligable to be tried for previous crimes.)  

The dream was really funky.
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From: 0695cs14@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Silicon Vulture)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Lucidity and me.
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:59:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A
X-Lunar-Date: 2 days, 3 hours, 10 minutes since the first quarter of the moon

In article <8eoddbe00WB0M4HFZH@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jack Liu
<jl9d+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...

>	I'm sure this has happened to some people.  When I take naps at around
>6P.M. and wake up at 9P.M. to do whatever and then go back to sleep
>again after a few hours, I find that I can always know when I'm dreaming
>once I've entered one.  They're usually nightmares, and though I can't
>control them, I can exit myself from them at anytime by finding
>inconsistencies in reality (i.e. "I could never be there" or "That could
>not happen").  The creepy part comes after I wake.  I find that I can't
>move any part of my body on awakening but my eyes.  No matter how hard I
>try, I can't even get my fingers to wiggle.  I eventually break out of
>this in about ten seconds, but when it happens, even though I know that
>I'll break out, it freaks me out.  Maybe if someone would tell me that
>this is natural or explain the "physics" of it to me, I can rest more
>assuredly that my eyes aren't looking out from a lifeless body.  

I've never been aware that I was dreaming until I woke up.  Even if the
circumstances are absolutely unrealistic.

I do know why you can't move, though.  Your body has a safety mechanism
that shuts off motor control when you dream.  This keeps you from running
around your house when your dreaming.  Your body is just taking a couple
seconds before turning off the safety.  Ten seconds does seem a little
long (for me it's fractions of a second), but it doesn't seem to be
something to get worried about.

  |  Silicon Vulture         |  "Pardon me.  Am I dreaming or do you  |
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From: sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth Malcolm Redmore)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Nightmares and familiar places...
Date: 12 Oct 92 07:19:52 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi y'all,

The above two subjects aren't really connected, I just didn't feel
like writingtwo posts  :) (well, they might be connected for
some people, so no flaming me... :) )

Anyhow, I thought that I would relate my experiences of the past 4 or 5 days.
Last week, I had a horrible night dream-wise, in and out of nightmares
_all_ night. no joke, kept looking at the clock each time.  However,
despite the fact that i didn't get much sleep, I did get to use
one of my "dream-defense" techniques...  In many of my dreams, I realize
that I am dreaming, but don't get to control the dream (kindof an
inbetween state....)  Anyways, in these dreams, once they would start
to go bad, I would immediatly start _pounding_ on my thigh to wake
myself up.  I half expected to find a huge bruise the next morning, but not
a mark on me.  I guess that it just kinda bothers me that I can pop myself
out of a dream, but I can't take control of it.  I have had this happen many
many times before, but never to the extent of that night.  Bleach...
Even had a double-layerd one... Now that was interesting.  My dream
self, as soon as it realized that I wasn't totally awake, and was sunk into
another nightmare, literally sighed and began pounding on my thigh again. :)

Now for familiar places...  There are a few places that I tend to return
to over the years.  One is a mansion (incredibly convoluted, but I know
my way around it  (I could probably draw a map...)) This tends to
be the site of nightmares (involving ghosts/forces/bad things) but they
have become miler and milder over time, and occasionally I will
triumph over some fear that I have over a room in the mansion... this
dream happens about once or twice a year.
The other place I return to is sort of an underground hideout.  Some
thing out of a spy-movie.  But, it is just people my own age. (they
have grown older with time...)  And the cool part is that it's
always the same people...  When I have this dream it's like remnewing
old aquaintances..  Its almost like there are a bunch of us who get
together in "dreamland" every few years, and report in to eachother...
A truly cool dreeam, but one that involves no lucidity whatsoever,
but one in which i don't do anything I normally wouldn't do..
(like, say, forgetting to wear my pants to school... :) )

I just thought I share this with y'all, see if you had any insights.

--Seth
From: aph016@cch.coventry.ac.uk (ozzy)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Why you can't move when you wake
Keywords: waking up is hard to do.
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:31:27 GMT
Organization: none

In article <gj156879.718484739@cunews> gj156879@prince.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879) writes:
>I have read and heard in various places that the body is shut off
>(USUALLY!) when you are dreaming, so that you won't leap out a window,
>or move about while in a dream.  The only exception would be your
>eyes.  As stated in one book called LUCID DREAMING (I forget the
>author) he proved that REM is actually you moving your eyes around to
>"see" what's going on in the dream.
> 
>(In case you're interested...)
>He showed this by having people go into a lucid dream and then move
>their eyes in a specific pattern (back and forth six times) to send a
>signal.
> 
>Anyway, back to not being able to move, I suspect that what is
>happening is you are only half awake, and your body is still in the
>state of motionless dream sleep.  Sorry, but I don't know any more
>than that.  I'd be interested in the neurochemical/biological nature
>of the matter, myself.  


When I was younger I often had dreams about being paralysed while something
was chasing me. One vivid dream involved a vampire type creature chasing me,
and my legs turning to stone in a big hall. I was, much later on, told that
parts of the body are prone to paralysis during the transition from one stage
of sleep to another, and this is represented in the dream in such manners as
turning to stone.
 Could someone back this up, or offer another explanation please?




>                              Nik
>                              Dreaming a BIG dream...
> 
>


 ozzy.
 
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: The dream that won't die. . .
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:02:38 GMT

Karleenus Schwartz Davis writes:

>Any thoughts on how I can kill this guy?  As soon as it
>turns into a lucid dream, I lose it, so can't just warp the
>reality of the dream at will.  I must remain "unconscious".

  Perhaps the solution is *not* to try killing the guy, but to either
  (1) Let him advance and see what he does, or
  (2) Try to make friends with him.

  These might not sound like good alternatives, but don't forget we're talking
about a dream here and any new angle might generate surprising results.  Since
you are obviously afraid of this guy, demonstrating in some way that you are
not afraid of him might help...

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From: ljz57640@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Laura0003 )
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: tornado dreams
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:47:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I have also had an interesting experience with a tornado dream.  A few years
ago, I was deathly afraid of our home getting hit by a tornado (I live in
Illinois), to the point where I would get hysterical whenever there was a
thunderstorm.  Well, then I had a dream that my family and I were getting
chased by a tornado while driving on a deserted freeway.  It was very vivid 
and real, and I can still remember just about every detail. I can remember
not feeling any fear at all as we were being chased by this tornado.  And
ever since, I have not been afraid of getting hit by a tornado, in fact, I
actually kind of want to see one now...

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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: Juhana.Rasanen@hut.fi (Juhana R{s{nen)
Subject: Re: Fear of God
Organization: /u/opi/t/justus/.organization
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:58:18


[Dream about God deleted]

  This reminds me of a dream I had years ago. Sorry if this is more or
less vague, but I was 14 or 15 by then, 7 or 8 years ago that is.

  I was home, in my room and there was a storm outside. Anxiety grew in
my mind, and I tried to look out of the window. For some reason I couldn't
see through my window and I startled and started to run around the house
trying to find a window from which I could see out. Finally I came back
to my room, looked out of the window again and somehow it had cleared and
it could take a look. What I saw was very frightening at first: in the
middle of the clouds floated God himself _and_ beside him the Devil. They
just floated there, quite far away, didn't move, no voices booming out or
anything. I started to calm down and finally a kind of tranquility flowed
into my mind and I woke up.

  Now I'd like to point out that I'm by no means religious, actually more
or less atheist. Nevertheless I felt afterwards (and still do) that this
was the most remarkable and meaningful dream of my life. I think I saw
this dream because I had solved (probably unconsciously) some problem of
Life (TM). You know, at your teens you are very sensitive and ponder a
lot of things in your mind: religion, life and such. Maybe this was a
message from my subconsciousness: Congratulations! We made it!

Well, at least that's what I'd like to think - any comments?


	Juhana
--
	"Never argue with a six-year-old who shaves."

		-- Calvin
From: ronni@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Taisia)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: What to do about Claustrophic dreams?
Keywords: Lucid, dreams
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:31:11 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

I've been having a problem with a lucid dream of mine, working
out claustrophobic issues.  I can't seem to manage to
maintain a decent lucid state if my fear level kicks up above
a normal level.  Has anyone else had this problem and what
have you done about it.
From: ssaf+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sreyas Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Do the blind dream?
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:21:13 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   Do the blind (those who are born-blind) dream?
    If they do, what kind of dreams do they have (visual?)?

                        Thanks,
                            Sreyas Srinivasan
                            Over the Hills and Far Away
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: rcrane@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Robert Crane - OTHER)
Subject: Re: dream lover
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 06:37:04 GMT

People including myself often dream of their "soul mates."
My own soul mates in my dreams often would take different physical
forms (but always female).  The feeling of closeness
was intense and surpassed ectasy and sublime.
I believe that these dreams, along with Carl Jung, represent
an archetype--your otherself of the opposite sex, the anima/animus.
I personally do not subscribe to the theory that your soul mate
resides in a material form on this world.  There are many celeberties
that claim that they have met their soul mate only to divorce a few years
later.  I believe your soul mate resides in yourself along with everything
else (of course :0).

Of course, there was that one time with a girl that I felt ONE...but
I never married her...I wonder if she was?
-- 
-bob crane
rcrane@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
"Ah Limbo!"
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Subject: Re: Lucidity and me.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:08:20 GMT

Ever since I can remember, I've has this conscious nightmare
just before I fall asleep.  It is the only dream of mine that
I have ever called a nightmare.

The whole dream is fraught with visual, tactile, and aural
extremes.  What I can see is an extremely bright darkness,
in the form of a gigantic sphere, behind which I see a dim 
brightness.  It seems like a planet, and I can faintly hear
voices shouting and talking animatedly on the other side.
Overpowering me, however, is crushingly loud whispering, so
loud that I can't even breathe.  The more I strain to make
out the words on the other side of the planet and the faster
I fly toward the dim brightness where they are, the more
insistent the whispering becomes and the harder the noise
seems to press down on my breastbone.  

The whispering finally overcomes me, and I close my eyes.  
I feel my body suddenly expand beyond imaginable size, almost
as if I were inflated, and then in an instant every part of 
me loses its "air" and I am squeezed as thin as a Euclidean
line.  The process repeats itself, faster and faster, drawing
air into my lungs and squeezing it out faster than I can make
use of the oxygen.  

Since my eyes are closed, I am no longer being "punished" by 
the whispering for seeking the light and the voices.  I am no 
longer terrified -- in fact, the tactile feeling of this
expansion and contraction is intensely pleasureable.  My skin
is tingling over my entire body in much the same manner as
one's face does when one gets an unusually sudden and intense
headrush.  A natural high, like an orgasm, but it is not a
sexual feeling at all.  

Summary: sheer terror, followed by intense pleasure, and every
	time I dream this, it is exactly the same.  Is it still 
	a nightmare if one wishes for it?

-sz  (I know what it means; do you?)
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 01:11:21 -0400 
From: "Robert W. Jordan" <rj25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Lucid Dreaming - What Is It?

"What is lucid dreaming?
 
But anyways, I have been able to control my dreams completely since 
I was about 6 years old, and can still do it. I refined the ability
to the point where in the bottom of the 'screen' for lack of a better term
or the visual that i see, at the bottom is a control box. In it are
digital displays, including elapsed time and such. I can at will stop
a dream and replay it, edit it if i am unhappy, or even erase it and
start over. I can on the fly switch the entire dream to something else
and this is easy.... would this be considered lucid dreaming?
 
-Tom Fox"

Tom:

Sounds to me like you've got your own Lucid-Dream brand personal Virtual
Reality Center in your head!  With editing capabilities and everything! 
How cool!  But the next step might be to figure out how to dream with
somebody else (a real person who is also dreaming).  Wouldn't that be
fun!

Rob Jordan
From: zcapd49@ucl.ac.uk (Mr C Jomaron)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Sex Dreams
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:15:18 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

Kathryn writes:

>Can anyone help me understand why I always wake up when I have
>a dream which involves having sex?  Every dream is the same.  I'm
>kissing and getting closer to the man and when we are about to 
>have sex, I wake up! (bummer).

>What is your interpretation.

>Kay



Hmm. Never had this problem myself, but then I'd always considered it
a bit of a bummer *not* to wake up --- it's just sooo messy cleaning up
the sheets afterwards!  :-) ;-)

Chris 'I don't want my flatmates getting the wrong idea'
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: dream lover
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:39:34 GMT

>550 <bolakk@citrus.citr.uq.oz.au>... User unknown

Oh rats.  Bad mail addressing strikes again.  OK, I'll post it
instead...

-------------------
In alt.dreams you write:

>I have a seemingly silly question.  For two and a half years now I keep
>dreaming about someone whom, in my dreams, I love very much.
>If I ask him
>his name, he says he can't tell me because it would ruin our future  
>together.  I can't remember anything about him except basically the
>feel  
>of his presence.  Is this possibly a precognative dream or just
>fantasy?

Interesting!  This is the first post I can recall seeing about this sort
of thing.  I recently bought a book called "Dream Lovers" - I can find
out the author's name if you like.  From what the author is saying,
there are a couple of explanations (which sound reasonable to me).

1.  A dream lover represents integration of the other side of your
personality (in your case the masculine).  Having these dreams helps you
come to terms with the masculine aspects of yourself.

2.  You may actually be dreaming *with* someone you will have as a lover
in the future (or *could* have...).  ie. They are sleeping, like you,
and you are both sharing the dream.  You won't necessarily know them yet
in RL!

So - it *could* be precog, or it may just be a nice dream about getting
closer to yourself :-)

Rob
Official Journeyman-Harper of the RFA


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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: gj156879@prince.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879)
Subject: nightmares, blood, death, and ick.
Summary: a bad dream.
Keywords: nightmares.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:12:28 GMT

My worst nightmare was pretty terrifying, although it was
(fortunately) me watching a movie like dream as opposed to actually
being involved in it.  A man was in a bathtub, completely coverred in
wounds, bleeding from everyone.  The blood was filling up the bathtub,
and the man was screaming so hard that his cheeks were torn.  Doctors
were standing around in white coats, and one of them explained that it
was "just a skin condition".  It was pretty horrifying.
 
The other nightmare I had was of a man asking for directions, and then
coming back and yelling at me that I'd given him the wrong directions
and that he was going to kill me.  He yelled so loud that it woke me
up, and I was convinced he was in the room.  I woke up punching and
freaking out.
 
Thankfully, I haven't had a nightmare in a long time.



Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: 0695cs14@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Silicon Vulture)
Subject: Re: The dream that won't die. . .
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
X-Lunar-Date: 5 days, 20 hours, 23 minutes since the first quarter of the moon
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:19:00 GMT

In article <Bvs45p.Dw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(Karleenus Schwartz Davis) writes...

>At some point in the dream, I am faced with the enemy:
>always a crazed-killer type, preparing to kill either me
>or a member of my dream family.  I grab the handiest
>instrument of death, *always* a bludgeoning weapon (last
>night it was a baseball bat), and start beating the hell
>out of this guy, right over the head.

Do you never have anything but a bludgeoning weapon at hand,
or is it your personal preference?

>He never dies.  I can tell I've broken his nose, cracked
>his skull, and frankly, I'm about to retch, but he just
>keeps brandishing his weapon (*always* a knifelike weapon)
>and advancing, grinning evilly.  He never actually attacks 
>me back, even as I bash his brains in, but he scares the
>hell out of me.

Try a slightly different tactic.  Don't strike to kill; strike
to incapacitate.  My personal choice would be the knees.  They
are extremely vulnerable to baseball bats (just ask your local
mob enforcer).  Once you break someone's knees, they move much
slower.  Other options are pounding his knife hand into jelly
(depending on his knife, it might break too), and knocking out
his teeth (to wipe that silly grin off his face).

>At this point, when I can *tell* he can't be a real person
>(because real people fall down and whimper when you beat 
>them over the head with a baseball bat), the dream fades
>and I return the dreamless sleep.

Another suggestion:  pick up the floor and hit him with it.
The floor is big and hard and has several other advantages
as a weapon (most people don't expect to get hit with it).

>-sz  (Apparently not cool enough to bludgeon someone to death.)

Not for lack of trying, I'd say.  For me, victory in dreams seems
to be tied in with self-confidence in real life.  This might apply
to your situation too.

  |  Silicon Vulture         |  "I've been dead before ... it gives you  |
  |  0695cs14@dt3.dt.uh.edu  |   a whole new outlook on life."  -joker   |
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: fis@evil.demon.co.uk (fis)
Subject: Dreamlight
X-BBS-Msg-Type: E
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:39:12 +0000



I have bought a dreamlight and it does exactly what it says.

From day 1 I had a lucid dream with it - although I have had quite a few
lucid dreams in the past.

It has loads of features and settings to give you the desired cue i.e.
brighteness,frequency, and sound if you want it. The manual is very good
and it comes with a lot of literature which is very useful.

You don't instantly have lucid dreams. you must first get into the habit
of testing reality etc.

I haven't had a dream yet which the dreamlight's cue hasn't entered the dream
whilst I was using it - thats not to say I haven't mistaken it for something
else sometimes.

fis