HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: CALLING ALL SUPPORTERS OF LEGAL ABORTION.
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:32:44 GMT
Distribution: talk.abortion
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Labs, Livermore CA

In article <1992Apr15.223605.28771@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer) writes:
>gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:

::And what are those consequences?  Come on, list them.  And they better be
::actually linked, not just coincidental.  the only consequence I can think
::of is nosy people like you are upset that others are doing things that you
::find distasteful.

:Increased rates of child abuse.  
	REPORTING of child abuse.
:Increased violence towards women.  
	AWARENESS of violence toward women.
:Increased rates of men abandoning women and the children they helped create.
	Where's the figures?
:Increasing acceptance of misogyny in the work place.
	A big fat lie.
:Decreased self-esteem for women as any failure to reach high stature in
:the male-defined business environment can now be labelled a "women's
:failure" since she wouldn't have had those kids if she REALLY wanted to
:succeed, and success, by male definition, can come ONLY from the 
:boardroom, never from the kitchen or the family.
	Bullpoop, pure and simple. Feminism is NOT about that at all.

	Steven Kellmeyer has yet to demonstrate cause and efect.

:IN short, abortion is not only misogyny in action, it breeds more as it goes.

	The pro-choice women on this net would disagree, and there are
a LOT more of them here in this newsgroup than on the "anti" side, I
may add.

	Steven Kellmeyer is beginning to compete with David Rasmussen.
From: chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Isaac Asimov gone?  Oh no!
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:57:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: pwcs.1992Apr15.175729.22171
Organization: City of Saint Paul Public Works

bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) writes:
> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
>> From article by tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch):

>>> R.I.P. Isaac Asimov, 1920-1992.  You will be missed.

>> Well, I guess he's not an atheist anymore.

> And if there is anything to come back from, he would do it if possible,
> to tell us all we're wrong and give an accurrate portrayal of what exists
> after life.

I wonder if those who have joined the Choir Invisible are holding back on
what they know 'cause they want to surprise us... :-)

-- 
Chris Lyman  /  email: chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov  /  #include standard_disclaimers
             /  "If you tell the truth, you never have to remember anything."
T.S.A.K.C.   /                                      -- Mark Twain
From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Sanity of discussion
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:26:46 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In talk.abortion, root@devl3.UUCP (Super user) writes:

[...]

>it was gratifying to me to recognize once again that the Christ I
>serve is not the condemnatory bigot that some "christians" seem to follow.
>I feel that it will not be long before these so-called "christians" will
>find a way to force each of us into their perfect little belief boxes

This is something I would actually fight to avoid, if it became that
necessary. Hopefully logic and reason will prevail. Generally, I've
felt that if anyone were undecided, a look at the rantings af a majority
of the pro-life side as reflected in here would cure them of ever trying
to push their beliefs on others and make them pro-choice.

[...]

>am anti-abortion/pro-choice.  The whole kingdom of God is based on the
>element of free-will.  Each individual is guaranteed by God the privilege
>to choose for themselves whether or not they will follow Him.  That being
>the case, I cannot in good conscience make any effort to remove from my
>fellow humans the freedom of choice that my God has given them.  Those

As said before, pro-choice only insists that everyone is free to make
their own choice, that's all I personally ask. Your position is one
I don't have any problem accepting.

Ron
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)
Subject: Re: Mommy! They Called Me Names! (Was: Implications of Abortion...)
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:38:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.000542.3288@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>
>In a previous article, kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran) says:
>
>>This from somebody who has just admitted he's 19.  Hire a teenage while they
>>still know everything...
>>
>>Somebody who is 19 and trying to tell women how to run their lives?  The one
>>who "can see the fetus as the child"???
>>
>
>
>
>gee......all you "much wiser" adults have shown everyone that YOU 
>know everything.
>
>Please, name one problem besides fixing the lawn mower that you have
>fixed in you lifetime?

Gee, MaThiEu, I don't claim to have any answers except those that work
===========FOR ME, AND ME ALONE=======================================

While I certainly think this would be a better world if everybody thought
like I do, I don't see any feasible way of doing this.

So, just because I would never have an abortion is no reason to try and tell
other women that that they can't have them.
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From: bmc@mayo.edu (Bruce Cameron)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: RE: The March in D.C.
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:35:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: bmw.1992Apr9.133530.5548
Reply-To: bmc@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Biomedical Imaging Resource

In article <9APR92.02500272@vax.clarku.edu>, lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:

|> 
|> We are trying to stop the termination of children.
|> 
|> 					Loren Finkelstein

According to the figure provided by the Pro-life faction on
the net there are 1,500,000 abortions each year.

According to WHO, in the same period of time, 10,950,000
children die of starvation.

Even if we assume a large round off error, are you sure
you are trying to solve the correct problem?  After all,
you want to prevent the deaths of children.

-- 
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"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
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Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)
Subject: Re: Clarifications, further comments (LONG)
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 13:21:48 GMT

In article <10170039@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> lief@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Lief Sorensen) writes:
>> 
>> I think our families experience bears out what Bill says.  We are not
>> divorced, we are not having any discord.  However I have been working
>> in Tennessee since November while my wife and son are still in Atlanta.
>> I go home on weekends, but I am still separated from them 5 days a week,
>> and we have seen a significant degradation in our sons academic per-
>> formance.  BTW, he's in the eight grade.  It makes sense that a stable
>> two-parent family is better than a stable one-parent family.

Hmm...Interesting conclusion there...

I'd be willing to bet that you've also seen a degredation in your relationship
with your wife and kid(s).  I bet your wife has seen a degredation in her
relationship with you and your kid(s).

Which means that youre relationship at the moment is becoming unstable, and
nothing more.  It means that stable relationships are better then unstable
ones.  Not that two parent anythings are better then one parent anythings...
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Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: The March in D.C.
Organization: Clark University
Date: 15 APR 92 05:03:37 GMT

In a previous article, decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) wrote:
>In article <14APR92.03201184@vax.clarku.edu> lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>> 
>> When someone is pregnant we say that she is "With Child?"  Hmmm.
> 
>We also refer to a "bun in the oven."  So, is my friend
>Melissa expecting cinnamon rolls?
> 
>Dean Kaflowitz
> 
>And if she doesn't get a yeast infection, will they still rise?

"bun in the oven" is a metaphore.

"with child" is not.
From: keegan@ukulele.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: a new net.vendetta?: darcy vs kathi mills (was Re: Kevin Welch: ethics)
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:56:52 GMT
Reply-To: james g keegan jr <keegan@crd.ge.com>
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.

kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
-> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
-> >kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
-> >> Well, Welch has not responded to this, so I will:
-> >I'm sure nobody could sleep until you did.
-> >
-> >> As I understand it, now it's up to Kathi Mills to either
-> >> retract her allegation, or to prove it.

perhaps this is a procedure you can demonstrate for readers.

-> >Actually, it's up to you to get a clue before charging in
-> >like a White Knight to defend all and sundry against those
-> >who have flamed you for an stuffy little martinette in the
-> >past.
-> >
-> >When Kathi described Kevin Welch as a rapist, she also
-> >supplied her definition of "rapist," which was non-standard,
-> >but in the situation, applied.
-> 
-> She made no attempt to redefine "rapist"; 

didn't you read the preceeding paragraph. try it again. no wonder
linda birmingham once wrote:

        'Mr. Darcy may I suggest that you enroll yourself
        posthaste in a remedial english programme, your lack of
        reading comprehension is astounding.  However, until you
        are able to secure such a class, I recommend that in the
        future you read very slowly, saying each word out loud as
        you come to it.  It is possible that this method will
        help to override your megalomaniacal, paranoid, "there's
        a sychophant behind every bush", thought process and
        maybe, just maybe, you will stop presenting yourself as
        such a complete and utter imbecile.'
				Linda Birmingham
				<91147.150725ADMN8647@Ryerson.CA>

-> I certainly think a retraction and/or apology is in order.
-> Kathi clearly got carried away and didn't realize what she was
-> saying. Let's see if she's big enough to admit her mistake.

practice what you preach kebbie. for example, why don't you
apologize and admit your mistake (lie) for writing this:

        'Is this the same James Keegan who donned his net.cop
        badge and uniform, and told me to get "my" [sic]
        child-support threads out of t.a this past December??'
		kevin@cfctech (Kevin Darcy)
		<1992Feb26.002308.5595@cfctech.cfc.com>


or, if it would bother you too much to deal with one of your lies
about me, why don't you deal with this one abour susan garvin


        'The "original author" is a lying bitch who would say
        anything to try and salve her gargantuan bruised ego.'
		 <1992Mar14.103300.12979@rotag.mi.org>

is susan garvin "a lying bitch," kevin?

practice what you preach, kebbie.

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Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: cj@eno.corp.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABORTION ON OUR SOCIETY
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:10:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.1992Apr13.221053.11054
Reply-To: cj@eno.corp.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Organization: SGI TechPubs

In article <1992Apr12.022746.7956@liebe.uucp>, Kevin Brawley writes:
|hahahahahaha.  Don't I detect a tiny little FLAME here?  BTW
|Political Correctness is unbecoming in all it's forms.  
|Condescending to woman appears theses days to mean 
|"you don't agree with my Pro-Death stance.".  tsk tsk.

What incoherent nonsense!  Have you anything to say
about the issues, Brawley?  So far you only seem 
interested in insulting as many people as possible.

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things.  This is so sorry I can hardly believe it."  --Roger Lustig,
in rec.arts.books
From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: Kathi, please be careful
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:31:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.002252.20643@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
>In  <1992Apr15.230111.26101@midway.uchicago.edu>  rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes:
>>
>> And I thought I was going to get a chance to acquire another net.ex-
>> boyfriend... ;-{
>
>Looking for volunteers?

Well, not as a general rule, Larry, but of course if *you're* volunteering,
I'd be delighted...

>Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

	-Nora
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From: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Nazi Comparisons (was Re: Yea, SURE IT'S VERBATIM!
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:10:49 GMT
Reply-To: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Apr12.224259.16123@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> 
           slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer) writes:

> If anyone had bothered to read the original post, I was RESPONDING to
> someone who attempted, yet again, to label pro-lifers Nazis.  

I did read the original post, in fact I saved it. Here's what you said:

----------------
From: slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer)
Date: 2 Apr 92 22:47:55 GMT

Matthew, pro-choice and nazi fit together much better.  See the short
history provided below.  The articles are included for your  
edification and delight.
----------------

You could have simply said "here's the article, you decide what it means".
I would have had no problem with that. Instead you made the comparison 
yourself ("pro-choice and nazi fit together much better"). 

> In fact, the article which I supplied as a reply was created specifically 
> because this charge was so common from the supporters of legal abortion.

So two wrongs make a right, eh? 

If you feel the need to respond to every pro-choicer in this manner,
then how about just posting the article by itself without your commentary?
I think you'd get a lot more respect if you presented the article
as a historical summary of Nazi abortion laws and let people decide 
for themselves whether it means anything. 
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: purdon@cons1.mit.edu (James Purdon)
Subject: The explanation for it all!
Organization: .
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:02:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.174258.7024@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>
>and say it huh? Jee, I should be offended, but some little part of me doen't
>seem to give a shi*.

So you're telling us that it's constipation which is making you act this way?

If that's the case, perhaps you should conult a physician.

-- 
Jim

Once I was single.  Now I am married.
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: A question for Welch and any prolifer
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 07:27:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Apr9.160808.251@ncsu.edu>  dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>
> How does that justify a law which allows parents to actively kill
> their own offspring?

We have no such laws.  (Hint for those who don't understand English too well:
a fetus ain't been sprung yet.)

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak  #3000  x2110 )
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Dennis Hall posts private E-mail!
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:50:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: advtech.1992Apr17.175015.28286
Distribution: na
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

>  Dennis "Dingleberry" Hall lies:

>	Steve Chaney and I worked together because both of us were
>badly insulted by him,....

The *nerve* of this asshole!  Two days ago he insinuated he'd never MET
Chaney!

>...and we carried out our threats to him, and got Mr. Roby severely punished.

Juuuust like ol' Propeller Prick Chaney did to Dan Bredy!  (Hey, "Hall"
- *still* bullshitting us with that "Who IS this Bredy guy" lie?



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steven@jaynes.USWest.Com
From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak  #3000  x2110 )
Subject: Re: The March in D.C.
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:14:25 GMT

> = (Kevin Brawley) writes:
>> = (Alison Rebecca Colman) writes:

>>I went to the "We Won't Go Back" march yesterday, and I had a terrific
>>time. It was quite incredible. I have never seen so many folks in one
>>place at once. The speakers were inspiring, I met lots of friendly
>>people, and I am more dedicated to the cause than ever.

>"...never seen so many folks in one place..."
>
>You obviously missed last years Pro-Life march on D.C. where they out-
>numbered the Pro-Death 2:1.  I don't have this years figures (yet).

Apparently your dislike of and ineptitude with "mathematical symbology"
is your personal smokescreen for the facts:

  Estimates put your Pro-Life rally at 70,000 for, and (by your 2-1
  ratio) 35,000 against.

  The Pro-Choice rally's most CONSERVATIVE figures are 350,000, with
  approximately 10,000 pro-lifers.      

Guess which anti-abortionists are disgusting mainstream America and
losing support?

Oops.  I gave away the answer.



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steven@jaynes.USWest.Com
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: The March in D.C. (NEW SIGNATURE!)
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:43:25 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In <kum5n8INNslo@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.115914.20256@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>>In <kuk4hlINNlac@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:

>>>Well, well, well. It looks like we have a new candidate for the David
>>>Rasmussen look-alike contest. 
>>   WHo the hell is david rasmussen? 
>The only person on usenet to behave so badly that he has had a boycott
>of his postings. For more information see the attached.

>Looks like a sign of Rasmussenitus to me.

   look eric, I don't want your crap okay? Sure, that guy had a lot
of questionable posts that you know I wouldn't approve of. If 
I get enough (any?) requests, I'll get the hell off of this newsgroup.
However, I have had some good discourse on email with some members, and
haven't gotten much of those insinuations that I get from you. If you
think I'm another Rasmussen, then go ahead and start your little petition
to boycott Steve Franklin! I think you must know I don't really get
offended by your (insignificant) opinion.
   steve
so... mail emarsh@sun.com if you'd like to join the boycott for
Steve Franklin. But, mail franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca if you think eric is
a total anus... 8) (hopefully neither of us gets any mail?)
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From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: The March in D.C.
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:35:59 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Apr07.072555.8447@liebe.uucp> kevin@liebe.uucp (Kevin Brawley) writes:
#ac10+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alison Rebecca Colman) writes:
#
##Hi everybody,
#
##I went to the "We Won't Go Back" march yesterday, and I had a terrific
##time. It was quite incredible. I have never seen so many folks in one
##place at once. The speakers were inspiring, I met lots of friendly
##people, and I am more dedicated to the cause than ever.
#
##Cheers,
##Big Al  
#
#"...never seen so many folks in one place..."
#
#You obviously missed last years Pro-Life march on D.C. where they out-
#numbered the Pro-Death 2:1.  I don't have this years figures (yet).

You obviously can't count.  Not even the National Right to
Life Committee claims 500,000 at this year's march.  They 
might claim that many for the 1989 rally, but then they were
only claiming to equal the numbers at that year's abortion
rights march.

Maybe you're referring to counter-protesters at one of
the anti-abortion marches.  So, what did you think about the
(official Park Police count) 2500:1 ratio on Sunday?

On the other hand, maybe you referring to something
else entirely.  By pro-death, were you referring to
the Desert Storm parade?  In that case, the numbers
were much larger than any anti-abortion rally also.

Susan
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.flame
From: kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)
Subject: Re: The Value of a Man (repost)
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 16:58:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.154047.7856@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>In article <k85tvzl@rpi.edu> cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker) writes:
>>
>>... I have seen many pro-"life" males on this
>>    group smugly assert that they believe in the sanctity of ALL
>>    life.  In that case, why should they balk at the opportunity
>>    to help a stranger?  It couldn't be that they feel that donating
>>    a kidney is INCONVENIENT?  How horrible, not to physically
>>    support someone else because of one's own CONVENIENCE!
>
>Gee, the pro-choice Peanut Gallery keeps ripping up Kellmeyer for telling
>them what they think. Aren't you doing EXACTLY the same thing here wrt
>"pro-life logic", Cathi?
>
>Double delicious, double-standard...

Kevin, what kind of drugs are you on?  Rocker's post has absolutly *NO*
similarities to Steven's lies.  Please re-post the article where Rocker
said, "The Following People Approve Of My 'Value Of Man' Ideas".

Or are you trying to enlarge your net.vendetta to include not only Susan, but
Rocker and Kathi as well?
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