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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US Open - General Observations
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:03:00 GMT
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In article <18nj0cINNh4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ananth@universe.som.cwru.edu (Ananth Srinivasan) writes:
> This 11:30pm shift from USA to CBS is a real pain in the rear
> end. What is worse is that here in the Cleveland area, CBS
> has chosen to show the Newhart show at 11:30 followed by
> Arsenio! No amount of calls to the local station have made
> a lick of a difference. We missed the end of the Lendl/Becker
> match, the Courier/Agassi match and probably will tonight
> as well. Does any other city in the US have this problem?

Here in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area (in Minnesota), the local CBS affiliate
(WCCO TV) shows a half-hour tabloid show called "Inside Edition" (I _think_ the
host is Connie Chung's husband) from 10:35-11:05 CDT.  Then they revert to the
CBS Sports coverage of the US Open with a 35 min shift delay.  So we don't miss
anything, but the rest of the match definitely has a weird feeling, because
when CBS Sports says, "We're LIVE at <so-and-so-time>..." they're not!  For
example, they keep showing the real time quite frequently (when referring to
how long the match has been going on), and it feels strange to see the time off
by 35-40 mins.  One big pain is that now you've gotta stick with CBS, even
though USA comes back on line at midnight, because if you flipped to USA from
CBS, you would miss half an hour of action!  I know all this is as clear as
mud, and probably important only to me, but I just had to vent...

What really bugs me is that we're not informed about this shift tactic, and
WCCO carries on as if this is really what's happening live :-(  The local ABC
affiliate is also inviting the wrath of the Gods by shifting Nightline to make
way for -- get this -- "Married With Children" reruns!

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
From: tao@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Eric Yihching Tao)
Subject: Any information about YAMAHA copper 110?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:27:13 GMT

I own a YAMAHA copper 110 I bougt about 1 year ago, I think YAMAHA has droped
the line. I like the feel of it, but it seemed lack of power, I got a Wilson
hammer lately, it is POWERFUL but I could not play well using it. Any comment?
From: tt@swamp.cacs.usl.edu (Thitipong Tanprasert)
Subject: Carillo
Organization: The Center for Advanced Computer Studies
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:01:54 GMT

I heard you folks once named Mary Carillo the "Gossip Queen" about
a couple months ago.
I used to think that word is too strong for her (although she really
is).
But now I think it's too kind!
Too many of her words are both non-sense, and just simply garbage.

TT
From: lhamre@mbl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: US Open Questions
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:31:06 GMT
Organization: MBL/WHOI Library

I have two questions concerning this years US Open. 

First,  Does anyone know the meaning behind the yellow ribbons all the
players and announcers wore? 

Second,  what's the scoop with Andre Agassi and Barbara Streisand?  I seemed
to miss all the gossip.  I guess Iwas too busy enjoying all the great tennis 
to keep up on the other stuff.

Thanks for the info.
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From: giri@sun2.Berkeley.EDU (Giridhar Rao)
Subject: Re: Ivan Lendl! (Jimmy, for once why don't you quit whinning?
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Reply-To: giri@sun2.Berkeley.EDU (Giridhar Rao)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:57:50 GMT
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Seems a little unfair not to mention edberg when talking about players that
don't whine and get on with it after a bad call ... a violent argument from
edberg is a stare at where he thought the ball landed ... 

Giri (Hooray for Edberg defending his title and regaining #1 ranking) Rao
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Today's Matchups
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:28:36 GMT

In article <Eef_LS200WDKIAWZVk@andrew.cmu.edu> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>My PICKS (which mean absolutely *nothing* :D):

Well, let's see....

>
>NOTE THESE ARE NOT RESULTS!!
>
>Men's 4th Round
>---------------
>Edberg(2) over Krajicek(15) in 4
>Becker(7) over Lendl(9) in 3
>Washington(14) over Chang(4) in 5
>Emilio Sanchez over Ferriera(12) in 5

So, Becker will have the easiest time among the men.
Result: Ivan Lendl def. Boris Becker 6-7(4-7),6-2,6-7(4-7),6-3,6-4, breaking
Becker's serve 6 times versus only 2 breaks for Becker. The usual win for
Lendl over Becker in a grand slam event.  :-)

The second easiest time will be had by Edberg.
Result: Edberg wins in 5.  Trailing by a break in the 5th set, he reaches
30-40 against Krajicek and has a chance to break back. Krajicek puts in a
fast first serve and comes to the net. Edberg sticks his racket out in
desperation and barely gets it on the ball; his service return turns into
a crazily sidespinning lob that Krajicek thinks is headed out, but which
slices in and lands inside the baseline by about a foot for the service
break.  Then, at 4-4, Edberg has to fight back from 15-40 to keep Krajicek
from serving for the match. At 4-5, Krajicek hits a few volleys into the
net and loses.  Yes, not much trouble for Edberg.  :-)

Having the hardest time will be Washington and Sanchez, who will win in 5.
Results: Both lose.

Now, let's hear some more of your typical anti-Lendl picks before the
next round.  And your impersonation of Lendl endorsing Snapple soft
drinks or whatever.
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From: guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US Open - General Observations
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:19:53 GMT
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ananth@universe.som.cwru.edu (Ananth Srinivasan) writes:
>At the post match interview, Agassi is reported to have said
>that Sampras will take Courier easily in the semis. Taken together
>with the comments of Connors and that unknown fool who got
>beaten by Lendl, this year's grapes served in the locker
>room must have come from a bad batch!!

I guess Aggasi got a good batch, he was right. Courier wasn't even
their. 

>Onward with great tennis!

I must confess that I am intrigued about what kind of
final it will be?!? Two S.&V.s! Well, it won't last 5
hours and 26 minutes, that for sure.

>--Ananth


STan
From: bose@femto.cs.umn.edu (Ashim Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US Open Final
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:01:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <95943@bu.edu> robrod@csa.bu.edu (Roberto Rodriguez) writes:
>From: robrod@csa.bu.edu
>Newsgroups: rec.sports.tennis
>Subject: US Open Final
>Summary: 
>Followup-To: 
>Distribution: usa
>Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
>Keywords: 
>
>
>I think people have down-played Sampras's ill-condition entering the
>final.  He started having trouble since his match with Courier.  He
>commented after the match that he had gotten sick the night before.
>Also, he was being troubled by his left leg (it wasn't mentioned for
>sure which part was it).  
>
>Sampras must have done his best to come out and give a good
>performance.  He was able to mantain a good condition in the first set,
>but in the second his condition started to act up.  By the third it was
>clear that he wasn't moving well and not being able to chase down balls.
>In the forth, if a ball wasn't hit directly at him, he couldn't hit it.
>
>I think that if Sampras had not gotten sick he would have ended it in
>three sets just like in '90.  I would expect something like 6-3, 6-3, 6-2.
>
>It is sad when great players get unhealthy like this.  IMHO
>Sampras would be the #1 player in the world if he could keep himself
>healthy.  Other players like Krickstein (sp?) would be great contenders
>if they were not so injury prone.
>

What utter rubbish!  While it is true that Sampras would have played better
had he been at 100%, it is meaningless to conjecture on the outcome of
the match by making statements like you have done.  Remember that Edberg
is a fighter as he has amply demonstrated in this tournament.  Most 
excellent players crack under the tremendous pressure he is able to put
on his opponents.  It is sad that Sampras was unable to sustain his
excellent performance, but such is life ...

Ashim
From: jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Lendl, Connors, etc
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:13:18
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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In-reply-to: donna@bae.bellcore.com's message of Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:10:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.181017.22464@walter.bellcore.com> donna@bae.bellcore.com (Donna Feliciano) writes:


   **This is my first "opinion" post here (probably not my last!!)**


   The Lendl-Becker match was great to watch!!!  I have very sleepy
   eyes today after staying up until the end.  Becker looked completely
   worn out by the end and seemed to have to summon extra energy for
   every shot.  Lendl seemed extraordinarily fresh.  I'm glad Lendl
   won, not because I don't like Becker, because of everything else.

Err?  You don't like Becker, because of *everything else*.  Please explain.

In my limited contact with Becker he has been very easy to deal with and a
quite good sport.

   Connors is a sore sport.  Yes, it is amazing that he is still
   playing (funny, though, he complains about the high tech racquets,
   yet he is one of the very few men who actually uses a wide-body!).
   I'm sick of defending why I am not a Connors fan (and never was).
   He wasn't "man" enough to say "Lendl beat me - he outplayed me
   today".  Instead he has to come up with some bull excuse.  Lendl
   might not be the most exciting, but let's not forget that
   he is a great player with the smarts to play the players to 
   win, not to prove something to the world.

I have read several posts that alluded to Connor's remarks about Lendl
after this loss.  What were they?

During one changeover, after Connors had just lost a game, I heard him say
"...faggot pusher."  At this point [while it merely reinforces by feelings
that Connors is quite vulgar] I had assumed he was talking to himself about
himself.  Those with as much machismo as Jimmy has sometimes use what they
consider to be a put-down, directed at themselves, to pump themselves up.
Indeed, in that game, he had been very non-agressive and had been pushing.
Now it dawns on me that he might have been directing that remark at Lendl.

While this reinforces my opinion of Connor's vulgarity, I am sorry that he
is spewing this type of venom on national TV, no matter who it is directed
at.  It is made worse when CBS builds him up because he is good for the
ratings.
 
jim taylor Thinking Machines Corporation       jpt@think.com
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From: faa@artemis.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Pete's current ranking.
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:46:41 GMT

I was torn apart yesterday, by who to support. I am a big fan of both
Edberg and Sampras. I ended up supporting Edberg since I've been his fan
for much longer. If Edberg is now No. 1, is Pete now #2, or has Courier
now obtained that position.
From: pa15+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pratima Adhikari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US OPEN Women's Singles Draw, round of 16
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:27:03 GMT
	<1992Sep6.141426.7068@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


 
         1992 US Open Women's Singles Draw, round of 16
 
               Seles (1) --------+
                                 |--------+
            G. Fernandez --------+        |
                                          |--------+
             Sukova (13) --------+        |        |
                                 |--------+        |
                      Hy --------+                 |
                                                   |--------+
            Sabatini (4) --------+                 |        |
                                 |--------+        |        |
               Appelmans --------+        |        |        |
                                          |--------+        |
             Pierce (16) --------+        |                 |
                                 |--------+                 |
      M.J. Fernandez (7) --------+                          |
                                                            +--------> Champion
              Cunningham --------+                          |
                                 |--------+                 |
   Maleeva-Fragniere (9) --------+        |                 |
                                          |--------+        |
                   Rubin --------+        |        |        |
                                 |--------+        |        |
       Magdalena Maleeva --------+                 |        |
                                                   |--------+
     Sanchez-Vicario (5) --------+                 |
                                 |--------+        |
           Garrison (14) --------+        |        |
                                          |--------+
                   Labat --------+        |
                                 |--------+
                Graf (2) --------+
 
 
Only 9 out of the 16 seeds are left at this stage. That is quite
unusual for the more "predictable" women's tennis. However, recall
that only 8 seeds were left in the round of 16 at Wimbledon this year.
-- 
-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
 
True, but 2 of the top 6 seeds had not been eliminated by this stage at
Wimbledon! That is the real distinction, here.
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US Open Observations
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:35:23 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <15312@borg.cs.unc.edu>, ponamgi@cs.unc.edu (Madhav Ponamgi) writes:
> 
> 
> Is it true Arthur Ashe had another heart attack recently?

  That's what they say.  It was supposed to have been a
minor heart attack.

> Also, why don't the let-callers wear helmets?  Twice I saw them
> being nailed on the head by a Becker shot.  It seems to be a very
> dangerous location.
> 

   John McEnroe commented that he felt they should get rid of
the let.   While it is a relatively small change, I thought it
wasn't such a bad idea.  I think this has been debated before,
but the advantages would be relieving the net judge of injury,
removing complaints about when a let has occurred, and most
important, stopping Bud Collins infatuation with making every net
judge's middle name "Fortesque".

   Any opinions?

   Oh, yes, it was mentioned that the court was slower this
year than last year, supposedly because they wanted more
rallies.  This seemed in evidence with plenty of five
set matches, and two matches exceeding the longest match
at the US Open (Lendl-Becker and Edberg-Chang) prior to
this year (Wilander-Lendl).

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: knarayan@netplan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Pat Summerall
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:28:21 GMT
Reply-To: knarayan@netplan
Organization: British Telecom North America, Inc.

In article eyu2qB1w165w@knex.Gwinnett.COM, gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar) writes:
> CBS TV announcing team has Pat Summerall. I cannot understand why he is
> there. He does not seem to know much about the game, nor does he provide
> any color. Other than repeating scores, agreeing with comments by others,
> he does not appear to contribute much. Just why is he there?
> 
> GeSS
> --
> Gess Shankar      |<><>|Internet: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM                |<><>|
> Knowledge Exchange|<><>|{rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!gwinnett!knex!gess|<><>|

I suspect he was probably *drunk* during the telecast; his comments sometimes bordered
on the bizarre. In my opinion, he should be fired.

Krish Narayan
BT North America (knarayan@orchid.tymnet.com)




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From: tt@cajun06.cacs.usl.edu (Thitipong Tanprasert)
Subject: Latest Edberg/Lendl update for Thursday night (SPOILER)
Organization: The Center for Advanced Computer Studies
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:03:29 GMT

Edberg  6  6  3  5  2
Lendl   3  3  6  7  1

Edberg seemed to be a little flat at the end of the 4th set and
look a little sharper in the 5th. He held both service games anyway.
Lendl came back very strong when he served for the 4th set. Because 
it rained again, the match is postponed to be played after men's double
final on Friday.

TT
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Women's Doubles
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:15:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Does anyone have women's doubles results from start to present?
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From: robrod@csa.bu.edu (Roberto Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: US Open Final
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:30:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: robrod@csa

From: robrod@csa.bu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sports.tennis
Subject: US Open Final
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Keywords: 


I think people have down-played Sampras's ill-condition entering the
final.  He started having trouble since his match with Courier.  He
commented after the match that he had gotten sick the night before.
Also, he was being troubled by his left leg (it wasn't mentioned for
sure which part was it).  

Sampras must have done his best to come out and give a good
performance.  He was able to mantain a good condition in the first set,
but in the second his condition started to act up.  By the third it was
clear that he wasn't moving well and not being able to chase down balls.
In the forth, if a ball wasn't hit directly at him, he couldn't hit it.

I think that if Sampras had not gotten sick he would have ended it in
three sets just like in '90.  I would expect something like 6-3, 6-3, 6-2.

It is sad when great players get unhealthy like this.  IMHO
Sampras would be the #1 player in the world if he could keep himself
healthy.  Other players like Krickstein (sp?) would be great contenders
if they were not so injury prone.
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From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: Re: US Open - General Observations
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:47:37 GMT

In article <10SEP199216034680@moose.cccs.umn.edu> rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu writes:
] Here in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area (in Minnesota), the local CBS affiliate
] (WCCO TV) shows a half-hour tabloid show called "Inside Edition" (I _think_ the
] host is Connie Chung's husband) from 10:35-11:05 CDT.  Then they revert to the
] CBS Sports coverage of the US Open with a 35 min shift delay.  So we don't miss
] anything, but the rest of the match definitely has a weird feeling, because
] when CBS Sports says, "We're LIVE at <so-and-so-time>..." they're not!  For
] example, they keep showing the real time quite frequently (when referring to
] how long the match has been going on), and it feels strange to see the time off
] by 35-40 mins.  One big pain is that now you've gotta stick with CBS, even
] though USA comes back on line at midnight, because if you flipped to USA from
] CBS, you would miss half an hour of action!  I know all this is as clear as

They do the exact same thing here in St. Louis. But we get an hour of
the Love Connection, which really isn't what you want to watch when it's
close in the fourth or fifth set of an incredible match!

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From: arijeet@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Arijit Das)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: 1992 US OPEN observations
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:52:04 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, ECE Department, Philadelphia, PA

After watching this year's US open I feel my tennis appetite
has been satisfied to the full. I feel since most of the men's seeds
were not eliminated early there was a high level of tennis played.

What is the deal with Stich, being a fan of his it was dissapointing to see him
loose early, seems like Gilbert is a German killer, I remember he also beat 
Becker couple of times at the Open. 

Also was hoping to see Mac/Stich  in the doubles finals.
I am just curious, since Mac is a local (I assume his parents live in NY)
do they invite Stich over for some German gourmet delicacies to make
this foreign kid feel at home ? 

While on the topic of food Ivanesivic complained about the burgers
and how one feels sick eating them, even though this may sound
ridicilous to American fans, I quite understand the sentiments of having
to deal with food across continents, maybe he should eat at some
immigrant Croatian resturant in NY next time.

On the flip side the US dream team in Barcelona pretty much kept the 
MacDonalds there in business during their trip.

Also Lendl commutes from his home in Conn., but does he have to drive
especially after a long match ?

Did Volkov have another tournament to play or what, I have never seen a more
half-hearted effort, he is ranked #20, and this is his best showing in the 
Open so I guess loosing to Sampras does not hurt his rankings.

By the thursday of week 2 USA wraps up it's coverage and I know it is
time to contend with frustation, now that CBS takes over, I feel CBS 
should not get in till the men's finals since it is the only event they 
will show live and in it's entirety. USA did go off the air for part of two
interesting matchups Sampras vs Forget and the Mac/Stich vs Sanchez/Casal
doubles match, which was a bit dissapointing.

My prediction for the player to watch is Richard Krajicek, he has a great 
game and inspite of being over 6' he does bend his knees to get those volleys.
--
arijit