HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: One more reason to hate "Cost of Living"?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:00:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.090712.5005@gw.wmich.edu> adamsf@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.212603.12359@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, andy@ice.stx.com (Andy Moore) writes:
>> Matt Hicks writes:

>> }I just saw "Cost of Living" for the first time (all the way through
>> }that is) last night, and I agree with everyone who has said that it
>> }sucks. I also think that maybe the writing sucked on multiple levels;


[...]

>I understand the COL is up for Emmy(s).  I am stunned.  If Northern Exp.


Only for costumes and hairstyling!  What's next?  Emmys for nail
buffing?



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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Tasha Yar mystery
Keywords: Tasha, Denise Crosby
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:42:26 GMT

In article <11AUG199217242704@reg.triumf.ca> lahaye@reg.triumf.ca (RAYMOND GABIN , TRIUMF OPERATIONS) writes:
>
>	I heard a rumour, and just that, and I would like to know if it is
>true: in the first episode involving the Klingon civil war, when Worf is about
>to leave the Enterprise and join his Klingon Brethens, he walks to the
>transporter room with the entire crew present in the corridor; now I heard that
>Denise Crosby is actually standing somewhere in the crowd, specifically in the
>back.  Can anyone confirm, or not, this rumour. I do not have the episode on
>tape, and therefore cannot check this myself.  Thanks.

Yes, and Yeoman Rand was in that crowd too.



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From: blanche@diana.cair.du.edu (Blanche Cohen)
Subject: Cast changes on TNG 
Summary: editor problems 
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:56:32 GMT

The previous empty message discussed Grace Murray Hopper in relation to
Shelby.When I list the note, its fine. When I send it, only the header
appears. Bummer.


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From: marknew@hydro.rosemount.com (Mark Newman)
Subject: Re: The Warp Scale (was star trek vi: the und)
Reply-To: marknew@hydro.rosemount.com (Mark Newman)
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:04:05 GMT

Greetings,

I've been following the FTL debate here and decided to offer
my two bits. A few years back I read a book by a noted British 
astronomer in which he stated that Einstein's laws only state
that travel *at* the speed of light is impossible; speeds faster
than light are possible under his equations. The author did 
add that the mathematics required to prove this were somewhat
involved, and that a way would have to be found to make the 
jump from .99c to 1.01c without passing 1.0c.  

Any physicists or mathematicians care to field this? 

If anyone is interested I can dig up the book and provide 
more information.


Regards, 

Mark Newman
Rosemount, Inc.
marknew@rosevax.rosemount.com

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From: tvf@cci632.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer)
Subject: Re: DS9
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:23:26 GMT

In article <8274@orbit.cts.com> dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Stephen Dowling) writes:
>I read in Broadcasting magazine that the "Commander" or "Governor," what have
>you, of Deep Space Nine will likely be played by an African-American actor. 

So guesses?  My first choice would be Paul Winfield, of "STII:TWOK" and
"Darmok" fame.  He fits the bill of a well-respected African-American
actor, and he's pretty darn good.  Besides, it beats playing a mirror like
he did in the TV series "The Charmings."

> 
>stephen dowling jr
>dowling@pnet51.orb.mn.org

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Mandlebratwurst: The Meal that Eats Itself!
From: rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Crew Eccentricities
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:59:06 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati, ECE Dept

CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY writes:
>Have you also noticed how Riker goes to sit in a chair?  He always comes
>from behind the chair, and lift a leg to pass over it...

I think maybe this is how he marks territory.  Oh, never mind - I was
accidentally thinking of Cat from "Red Dwarf."

Bob Davis	rbd@thor.ece.uc.edu
Organization: Senior, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:57:37 -0400 
From: Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: USA Article: Scotty


Possible spoiler warning left intact...
>suspended in molecular limbo for 75 years

     Oh, Puh-LEASE! That's bad. Real bad. I guess any and all attempts to
maintain technical consistency are in the toilet.

     Quoth the Tech Manual: "A transport subject that has not yet begun the
                             materialization cycle can be held in the pattern
                             buffer without image degradation for up to 420
                             seconds,"   NOT 75 YEARS!                  ^^^
                             ^^^^^^^
     I guess the Tech Manual needs a better disclaimer: "We try to get it
right, unless we're not creative enough to think up a way to bring in TOS
characters and stay within our own guidelines." Not to mention sounding nearly
as hokey as the rejuvenation drug idea.

     C'mon people! If you're using the transporter, have it power surge during
an ion storm or something and beam him through time. Heck, the same thing
beamed them across dimensions in "Mirror, Mirror", then why not time? Plus,
it's REVERSIBLE (theoretically). Sheesh, they wouldn't even have to be creative
with that one. ARGH.

                                                      -Robb Timlin
                                                       rt16@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Season Premiere - Riker admits hes gay
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:37:33 GMT

its true, i swear it, hes coming out of the closet!!
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From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cause & Effect (*SPOILERS*) possible explaination
    <1992Aug12.132244.7902@rtsg.mot.com>
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:16:09 EST
Organization: None

Quoted from <1992Aug12.132244.7902@rtsg.mot.com> by bringman@rtsg.mot.com (Bill Bringman):

> The question I have is how did the other ship get in the loop?
> If the loop included the big E crashing with it, and was finally broken by
> avoiding the crash, what kept the other ship waiting in the loop
> for 80 years?  If something else did keep the other ship in the loop,
> where is it during the crash and near crash with the big E?
> 

	You have to think about it this way.  The other ship entered the
space anomoly on 8/12/1992 , the Enterprise discovers a space anomoly on
8/12/2072 and goes to investigate.  While approaching the space annomoly,
the other ship suddenly appears from the space annomoly.  Only a few
seconds have passed for the other ship from the point it entered the space
anomoly, until it exited it.  It has travelled 80 years into the future in
a matter of seconds.  It crashes into the Big E.  The Plasma Displacement
causes the Space anomoly to Burp, and the whole episode is repeated once
again.  How is that?

Carlos
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 16:31:01 MST
From: Brian C. Berg <AUBRI@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- Geordi Dies!!!

In article <1992Aug19.070812.21689@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu
(Jonathan Sheir) says:
>I just recently found out from a reliable source that Geordi will be killed
>in the premiere in an attempt to save Data's life.

My god, have you ever considered the possibility that some people might
want to be suprised by the season premiere?

Here I am browsing the titles of messages to find the air date for the
premiere episode and I see a message header blaring spoiler information.
Now that you've spoiled the episode for some, please consider leaving the
content of your message out of the header, and instead warn the reader of
incoming spoilers.

Thank you.
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From: zzekka@unislc.uucp (Zeke Zecca)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG gifs
Reply-To: zzekka@unislc.UUCP (Zeke Zecca,B2C10,4827)
Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:29:47 GMT
Keywords: gif pictures 

I am looking for a news group and/or a/an ftp site for ST gifs.
Planets, the big E, crew, etc..

Feel free to post and/or email.
Thanx,  Zekers!
From: das@cci632.cci.com (David Stumme (co-op))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: What is the 25th Anniversary game?
Keywords: version, romulan, cloak
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:27:34 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <BsvI9K.61z@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> bradleyt@caesar.ucs.indiana.edu (T.C. Bradley) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.063012.27840@news.iastate.edu> wity@iastate.edu (Wity Ganda) writes:
>>In some of the episodes, you have to manuever the Enterprise to have a dogfight
>>with Romulan, and Enterprise duplicate.  Yes, the Romulan ship has a cloaking
>>device!
>>
>What version did YOU play?  Mine didn't have any Romulan ships, much
>less cloaked ones...

Ummm, the third "episode" starts with a duel with a cloaking ROmulan
Bird of Prey.  This is the "Ark-7" episode.  (No spoilers in saying
that, anyway).

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 "If I speak, I am condemned.		David Stumme 
  If I stay silent, I am DAMNED!"	das@sunsrvr1.cci.com
      -- Jean Valjean a.k.a. "24601" 	das1417@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
         "Who am I?", Les Miserables 	D.STUMME @ GEnie
From: "robert sartain" <robert.sartain@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: new tng schedule?
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:33:36 EST
Reply-To: "robert sartain" <robert.sartain@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Hiya!
   This is usually the time of year when spoilers and new season
schedules seem to leak out.  I, for one, *love* to read spoilers, or at
least two-sentence blurbs listing episode title and general topic, as
well as advance schedule listings.  If  anyone has any news on the
upcominge season (beyond the airdate of the conclusion to "Time's
Arrow", of course) please email it to me or post.  If you do post
spoiler info, please observe the usual spoiler courtesies.
   Thanks much!
   -Rob.
   robert.sartain@channel1.com
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

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From: VOELS@usmv01.usm.uni-muenchen.de (Stephen A. Voels)
Subject: Re: USA Article: Scotty
Organization: University Observatory Munich, FRG 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:20:51 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <cole.713935707@lea> cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu writes:

> gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach) writes:
> 
> >In article <AeX7_Va00VAt1B14V_@andrew.cmu.edu> rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu
> >(Robert Edward Timlin) writes:
> 
> >>C'mon people! If you're using the transporter, have it power surge during
> >>an ion storm or something and beam him through time. Heck, the same thing
> >>beamed them across dimensions in "Mirror, Mirror", then why not time? Plus,
> >>it's REVERSIBLE (theoretically). Sheesh, they wouldn't even have to be 
> >>creative with that one. ARGH.
> 
> >I agree, your suggestion is more plausible than being held in
> >molecular stasis for 70+ years.
> 
> I disagree.  If you accept the idea of a transporter and that your
> "pattern" can be stored, then I see no reason why you can't be stored
> for an indefinte period of time.  In TOS, didn't they store some
> Klingons for a rather long time until they figured out what they were
> going to do with them (I may be off here, it's been quite a bit of time
> since I've seen this one).
> 
> I think 70+ years in transporter storage is far more plausible than
> accidental time transport (which would certianly cause them to duplicate
> the accident and send Scotty back).
>

The time transport idea already existed in TOS.  In ASSIGNMENT EARTH, some
one comments that the powerful transport beam carrying Gary Seven could have
come across great distances or time.

> 
> I for one will be very disappointed if they somehow manage to return him
> to his proper time.  If an accident like this happens (regardless of the
> specifics) then they should be stuck without an answer on how to reverse
> it for once.
> 
> Robert Cole


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From: cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Picard's mistake
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:55:19 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <92226.084951ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>PERHAPS "THE MISTAKE" WAS PICARD HAVING SEX WITH BEVERLY CRUSHER, AND HAVING
>WESLEY, CAUSING JACK CRUSHER (A MUTUAL FRIEND) TO MARRY HER, IN AN EMOTIONALLY-
>CHARGED FLASH-BACK EPISODE.

I would expect birth control to be foolproof by that century.
--
Constantinos A. Caroutas

"It's easy to make mistakes when others will be held responsible."
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From: bussink@trucks.enet.dec.com (Erik Bussink)
Subject: Arnold Schwarzenegger in STTNG ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:21:18 GMT


	In the UK newspaper 'The Independent' of the 
	Wednesday 19 august 1992 is the following text :

	Tabloid TV:
		"Those tabloid TV `scoops` in short: Arnold Schwarzenegger
	has signed on to boldly go where no one has gone before in an 
	upcoming episode of Star Trek:The Next Generation." 
                                                 	Page 24

	Courtesy to Steve Beaton, who spotted the text in the newspaper.

								Erik Bussink
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From: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Picard's mistake
Reply-To: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:39:25 GMT


Personally, I think Picard was having severe doubts about his sexuality.
These doubts led him to late night romps through campus in a slinky
evening gown singing "I gotta be me" at the top of his lungs.  His
friend Boothbe managed to talk him out of it and seek counseling.
-- 
"What do you mean Star Trek isn't real!?" - anonymous
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From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Smithsonian
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:47:33 GMT

Catherine Miller writes:
> Does anyone know if the ST exhibit is still going on at the
> Smithsonian?  If so, how does one go about getting tickets?

Yes, the exhibit is still on. The tickets are free, and are given
out in the main hall of the museum, first come first served.
The day I went, I was able to get a ticket for about 2 hours
later in the afternoon.  The exhibit is well worth seeing, with
lots and lots of props, actual scripts, costumes from the show,
ship models, pictures, film clips, etc.  There's a transporter
stage with lifesize cutouts of Kirk, Spock, and the boys; you 
can stand next to them and have someone take your picture.
There's also a captain's chair for photos, and of course, 
Spock's ears.  Enjoy...

************************
* These are my opinions only.*
************************
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- (CENSORED) - - Whatever happened to !SPOLERS*!
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:32:35 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Virginia
Keywords: 

In article <1992Aug19.070812.21689@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:
>
ID
D


Dear Mister Jonathan Sheir,
	Assuming your information on the season premiere is correct......
	

	WHY THE BLOODY HELL DIDN'T YOU SPOILER PROTECT IT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!


	JUST *maybe* I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW THIS AHEAD OF TIME........

	Or just *maybe* this is a trick to see how angry people can
get at unprotected info or to flame somebody who's account you are using?
Well, if it is, then I've fallen for it, becuase trick or no, I certainly
don't want to see *any* such stuff without protection.

	Clear?
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From: smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon)
Subject: Re: Picard's mistake
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 12 Aug 1992 10:01 EST  

In article <scrotch.713581231@milton>, scrotch@milton.u.washington.edu (Lou Ciphre) writes...
>rtwall@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD TODD WALL) writes:
> 
> 
>>	In a receint re-broadcast of the ST-TNG episode where Wesley Crusher
>>and his flight team had their big crash around Saturn, Picard thanks the
>>grounds keeper at the academy for his help when he made some big mistake.
> 
>>	Does anyone know what that big mistake was ?????
> 
>someone else may have posted this before, since i can't recall thinking it
>up myself (so apologies if i'm plagarizing you), but didn't it seem
>suspicious that as soon as geordi told picard about wes's something-or-another
>valve being open before the accident, picard knew right away what wes and
>the rest of the flight team had been up to?  doesn't it sound as though
>picard is REALLY familiar with that particular outlawed manuever?
> 
Ah, no.  Im pretty sure that Picard never had any flight training.  Second,
when the manuever was tried before, all 5 pilots died. Picard wasnt probably
part of that group :)

I think the problem refered to is of the female variety.  Remember from 
previous episodes when he refers to his academy days that he fell in love
once or twice during that time, and his grades suffered for that 
('I failed Organic Chemistry because of A.F.')  I believe that the grounds-
keeper had helped him steer straight and to get the grades, but had also 
made Picard look good in the girl's eyes.  For examples, if Picard had to 
miss a date in the park due to class conflicts, the groundskeeper would
come around  to the metting place, and tell the waiting girl a romantic
reason why Picard couldnt make it.

In any case, it NOTHING on the scale of what Wesley's team did.  Picards
problems sounds very very minor compared to the trouble that the team got
into....


Michael Neylon   aka Masem the Great and Almighty Thermodynamics GOD!
      //         | Senoir, Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Toledo
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From: ac1@cec2.wustl.edu (Anuj Chandra)
Subject: Season Premiere ?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:19:02 GMT

Does anyone know when isd the season Premiere  of SNG
Also does anyone have the listing of the episodes that
will be shown ?
Thanks

Anuj
From: twc87@isuvax.iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Season 6 Schedule/Info
Date: 17 Aug 92 00:42:08 GMT
Reply-To: twc87@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa

Hi...as do a lot of other people, I'd really like any and all info ANYONE
has on season 6 of TNG...rumors, hard, concrete fact, whatever...

PLEASE e-mail anything you find to clangst@iastate.edu.....

Thanks a bunch!
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From: vincent@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong)
Subject: Who SAYS  ______'s gonna buy it in Times Arrow 2?
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 00:27:01 EDT

That recent posting about ________ getting killed in next year's TNG
premiere sounds at best like a poorly managed trial balloon and at worst
like irresponsible rumour mongering.

First of all there would have been SOME notice in the mainstream media
if any of the cast members was going to go.  TNG is popular enough that
Entertainment Tonight, TV Guide, People, Liz Smith, etc. would surely 
have said something if a cast member were leaving.  (They did announce
when Denise Crosby and Wil Wheaton left; why break precedent now?)

Second the phrase "reliable source" is perhaps the most abused term
in the journalism business.  We don't know on what basis this so-called
source can be said to be reliable--does (s)he work on the show? is (s)he
a friend of the crew?  Or is (s)he a friend of a friend of a sibling of
the hairdresser for an extra on the show?  This is a real sloppy 
attribution.

What do I think?  I think someone's trying to stir up trouble in this
newsgroup.  Trying to identify the _______-haters for the sake of 
talk, to establish credentials as a serious Trekker.  (As if anyone
NEEDED this ...)

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