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From: devs@netcom.com
Subject: Software contracts for Devsoft
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:58:50 GMT


Devsoft Corporation is looking for software contracts in the following
areas:

1. Device drivers for HP700 and Sun platforms.
2. X-Windows/MOTIF/Open Windows GUI for applications.
3. Software projects in document imaging area.


Devsoft has developed and ported several device drivers on HP 700 and
Sun platforms. Devsoft is presently porting device drivers for a
major VAR. Devsoft has more bandwidth to take up other software
development contracts in the areas listed above.


Devsoft Corporation is a value-added reseller of Sun Microsystems and
Hewlett-Packard. Devsoft has its own image scanning product called
XpertScan. Devsoft has developed device drivers for Ricoh/Panasonic
optical disk drives and Exabyte tape drives on HP9000 series 700
workstations.


Here are the particulars about Devsoft:

        Devsoft Corporation
        1010 West Fremont Avenue
        Sunnyvale, CA 94087

        Phone: (408) 736-7650
        Fax  : (408) 736-7696
        Email: devs@netcom.com

From: pi@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Paul Ilgenfritz)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:13:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Old HP Workstations
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp


That is the HP Integral Personal Computer

Here is information from the 1987 HP catalog, page 81:

Model number:  HP9807A

List Price:  $4995

Motorola 68000, 8MHz
16 bit graphics processor
512K - 2.5M RAM, 7M with expanders
712K 3.5" drive
Built in Think-jet printer [!]
9" Amber electroluminescent display
25 pounds, 7x13x16 inches


The OS was an early version of HP-UX which I think was mainly based on
whatever AT&T had at the time.  The GUI was HP Windows with PAM.

The catalog text says:  "HP-UX is a genuine UNIX operating system product,
which lets the Integral PC transcend the architectural barriers of such
systems as MS-DOS (TM) and PC-DOS (TM) for powerful software development
programs."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mellema@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl (Garrelt Mellema)
Subject: DAT tape rescueing
Keywords: DAT, tar, mt
Organization: CRI, institute for telecommunication and computerservices.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:13:19 GMT

Hello,

I have the following problem. By accident I started writing (with tar) at
the beginning of a DAt tape which already had several tar archives on it.
Is there any way of getting the tape positioned after the new end of tape
mark, so that I can access the data that is still on there somewhere?

Tar, mt, and dd will not let you do this. I have also tried to break off
a tar process to stop an end of tape being written, but this doesn't work
either: the error handling will always place two tapemarks at the end of 
the tar archive.

Are there any programs to position the tape a specified position or will
that not help me?

Please mail me any suggestions.

Technical details: HP 9000/720, HP-UX8.05,
                   DAT: HP6400 1300S (devices /dev/rmt/0m[n]) 
                        (on the back it says model: C1512A)

P.S. I have also access to a DAT unit in a DEC outfit:
        DEC3100, Ultrix4.2 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Bug in fbackup when using graph files
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:09:15 GMT

For the last six months I've been pretty happy with the way fbackup has
been performing on our 8mm drive and doing backups across the net via
NFS.  I believe I just found a bug however.  It seems that the first
machine (alphabetically) in the graph file is completely missed.  I have
a graph file that looks something like this:

i ictest1/hp3070/boards
i ictest1/hp3070/boardsa
i ictest1/hp3070/boardsb
i ictest2/hp3070/boards
i ictest2/users
i spock/users

The command being used is:

/etc/fbackup -f /dev/8mm -0uvn -g fbackup.graph -c fbackup.config

It doesn't matter how you arrange those directory names - fbackup will
not get ictest1 because it is alphabetically first.  I have created a
bogus directory "ictest0" and put a dummy directory and junk file in
that directory to see what will happen to ictest1...  The results are
flashing past me on the screen now.  It seems that ictest0 is backed up
because it is local (even though it exists in the /nfs directory which I
shouldn't have done.)  It also appears that ictest1 is now being backed
up as well.  I want to see how long it takes for fbackup to do
ictest0/ and ictest1/hp3070/boards.

Is anyone aware of this problem with fbackup?  A "what" command on
/etc/fbackup reveals that I'm using Rev 70.29 from PATCH_8.0X_1
(installed in the last couple months.)  Is there yet another patch for
fbackup/frecover?
-- 
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chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |    decide to go bowling together..."
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |             -Data "The Outrageous Okana"
------<Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton Wisconsin>------
From: gcr@pacific.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,jpl.hpapollo.managers
Subject: Seagate Elite II Disktab entry
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:30:31 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Does anyone have a disktab entry for a Seagate Elite II ?

Greg Ramos

gcr@pacific.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ml-bkm@jordan.utah.edu (Barada K Mishra)
Subject: PHIGS help needed
Organization: University of Utah
Distribution: comp.graphics
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:00:37 GMT

I have developed a small graphics package that renders 3d objects on a
gray scale HP730 monitor. This particular application needs a "hidden
s/ce hidden line" routine which is not supported on a GRX type
monitor. I have written this in HP-PHIGS. There is very little time in
hand before I make a presentation. I would like to know if there are
routines available for this job on any of the ftp sites or I could
borrow it from someone. Lastly. I am also willing to write a routine
if some body can let me know how to do it!
Any help will be appreciated.

B. K. Mishra
Department of Metallurgy
University of Utah

From: stevewi@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:39:52 GMT
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0 compatibility questions.
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> Can applications built under 8.07 run under 9.0 without needing
> relinking or recompilation?  I recall that for the 7.0 to 8.0 upgrade
> on the Series 300/400 you had the choice of recompiling the entire
> application or running the 7.0 executable under 8.0, but you
> absolutely were not supposed to relink 7.0 object files under 8.0.
> Are there any such restrictions for the 8.07 vs 9.0?

Contrary to popular belief, not all of us in HP have access to the
latest and greatest stuff.  I downloaded a copy of the 9.0 release
notes (kindly posted by someone at Mentor Graphics) from this very
notes group.  I believe I read that applications compiled on HP-UX
8.0x can be run on HP-UX 9.0 without recompiling.  This seems to be
confirmed by some folks in Fort Collins but... (and this is a BIG BUT!)

I don't speak for HP and they don't speak for me.

===============================================================================
Steve Witten                    stevewi%hpspd@hplabs.hp.com
Network Test Division           ...!hplabs!hpspd!stevewi
Hewlett-Packard Co.             stevewi@hpspd.spd.hp.com


From: kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:12:02 GMT
Subject: Re: compiling groff on HP730 -> alloca problem
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, matt@ace3.sps.mot.com (matthew noell) writes:

> I am trying to compile groff-1.06 on my HP730 and I am having trouble with
> pic, eqn and refer which require the include file alloca.h (alloca is defined
> in libPW.a but where is the header info?).  I get the following message,
> 
> Making all in pic
>         CC -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H
> =1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_CC_UNISTD_H=
> 1 -DSTDLIB_H_DECLARES_GETOPT=1 -DSTDLIB_H_DECLARES_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_MMAP=1 -DHAVE
> _RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1 -DWCOREFLAG=0200 -g  -c pic.cc
> param.h: 417: warning- Redefinition of macro MIN.
> param.h: 418: warning- Redefinition of macro MAX.
> CC: "/usr2/gnu/lib/bison.simple", line 278: error: undefined function alloca cal
> led (1286)
> 
> Would someone please tell me what to do to get around this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> --
> Matthew Noell   matt@caladan.sps.mot.com             Motorola, Inc.
> APRDL Technology Simulation Group                    3501 Ed Bluestein Blvd.
> Phone (512) 928-5013, Fax (512) 928-6687             Austin, Texas 78721
> --
> Matthew Noell   matt@ace4.sps.mot.com                Motorola, Inc.
> APRDL Technology Simulation Group                    3501 Ed Bluestein Blvd.
> Phone (512) 928-5013, Fax (512) 928-6687             Austin, Texas 78721

You must have C++ 2.0 because with C++ 3.0 that problem went away.
( I don't remember how I fixed it, but I can probably dig out
old versions if you are desparate :-) )

Anyhow,
groff binaries for s700/s300 are available via anon. ftp from
iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu-- 128.255.18.10, in comp.hp

kk@hpkronos.hpl.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: "John Morey" <p00103@mail.psi.net>
Subject: WordPerfect vs Island Write
Organization: Hitachi Telecom
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:10:49 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.11)

What to buy???  Was just needing some feelings on wordprocessors for HP 
workstations.  Please let me know what you think about the wordprocessors
that are available for the HP's.  This is for doing documination, we will
be using EMACS for programing.

Thanks for any ideas.

John Morey

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bsb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Brett Baumberger)
Subject: Re: Does SoftPC run, walk or step on an HP7xx?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:57:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta

In <1992Nov5.050537.20276@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> nholford@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Nick Holford) writes:

>I executed a PC number crunching program on a Mac II using SoftPC and
>discovered a single step debugging tool :-)
>Can anyone tell me what numeric co-pro intensive DOS progs do on an
>HP730?
>Is it like an 8086 (no co-pro 4.77 Mhz) or an 80486 (66 Mhz)?
>-- 

>Nick Holford, Dept Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology
>University of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
>INTERNET: n.holford@aukuni.ac.nz

On an HP 720 and an HP 750, I have executed a fortran program that was 
compiled to take advantage of the presence of an 8087 math co-proc.
So, minimally, it does 8087 instruction emulation.  Since SoftPC emulates
an 80826, I expect that it would do 80287 emulation as well. 

SoftPC does floating point very fast.  The fortran program I ran used to
take 4 minutes on a PC XT (4.77 MHz).  On SoftPC, it took 2 seconds.
However, graphics performance leaves much to be desired.

Brett Baumberger
SoftPC Support

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: houten@prso.pttnwb.nl (K. van Houten)
Subject: Re: VUE Analog Clock -> Digital Clock Replacement
Organization: PTT Telecom b.v. The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:04:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.093539.1@pa621a.inland.com>, solomon@pa621a.inland.com (Paul J. Solomon) writes:
|> Does anyone out there know how to replace the VUE Analog clock (in
|> the control panel) with a Digital clock?
|> 

In my vuewmrc file:

FrontPanel LargeFrontPanel
{
    Row Top
    {
        vuewmdclock     =180x70+4+4   <-- THIS LINE IS FOR THE CLOCK
        vueload         =88x70+8+8
        vuewmtacho      =88x70+4+4
   ......
    }
   ....
}

$ dclock -name vuewmdclock &
$ ps -ef
  houten  1317  1273  0 07:55:40 ?        0:00 dclock -name vuewmdclock
$

Voila, now the dclock, as found in comp.sources.x (long ago), will be
displayed in the Vue bar.

See also Vue admin guide.

-- 
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From: tpl@eng.cam.ac.uk (Tim Love)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: SUN <-> HP and sockets
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:14:26 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

We have been trying to get HP 9000/3xx machines running hpux8 and Suns 
to talk to each other using BSD datagram sockets over UDP/IP.

HP client sockets are bound as -
	memset ((char *) &cli_addr, 0, sizeof(cli_addr));
	cli_addr.sin_family 		= AF_INET;
	cli_addr.sin_addr.s_addr	= htonl(INADDR_ANY); 
	cli_addr.sin_port 		= htons(0);

	if (bind(sockfd, (struct sockaddr_in  *) &cli_addr, 
			sizeof(cli_addr)) < 0) {
		printf("\nCan't bind socket\n");
		return(-1);
	}

Sun server addresses are specified by -
	serv_addr.sin_family 		= AF_INET;
	serv_addr.sin_addr.s_addr	= inet_addr(SERV_HOST_ADDR);
	serv_addr.sin_port		= htons((u_short) dstkey);
where SERV_HOST_ADDR and dstkey are hardwired at present. 

Messages are sent and received using the sendto and recvfrom calls -

	if (sendto(sockfd, buf, nbytes, 0, 
			(struct sockaddr *) &serv_addr, svrlen) != nbytes)
		syserr("Unable to send datagram to BB server");
	.
	.
	.

	n = recvfrom(sockfd, inbuf, nbytes, 0, 
				(struct sockaddr *) 0, (int *) 0);
	if (n < 0) {
			.
		[retranmission code]
			.

The problem is that the HP client can send to the Sun server o.k but does not 
receive acknowledgements. The Sun definitely receives HP messages and replies
to them though.

This code works fine when both client and server are Sun m/cs running SunOs 
4.1.1. We haven't tried installing the server on an HP yet.

Any known problems in this area? 


Tim Love (tpl@eng.cam.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rjohns@brtph46.BNR.CA (Richard Johns P205)
Subject: Turning off icon box under VUE?
Reply-To: rjohns@brtph46.BNR.CA (Richard Johns P205)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:30:08 GMT

I prefer not to use the icon box under HP VUE, but setting 

 Vuewm*useIconBox: False

in my current resources has no effect, even after logging out and in again.
I always get the icon box.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
 Rick Johns
 BNR
 (919)991-7191

Disclaimer: I said it, BNR didn't.
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From: tobi@pcmp.caltech.edu (Tobi Delbruck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: compressed-header SLIP in ppl?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 04:49:39 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: panther.pcmp.caltech.edu

does anyone know if HP-UX supports compressed-header
SLIP?  i can only get the normal slip to work, and
i don't know what the meaning of ASLIPC and ASLIPS are in the
HP serial-line interface manual.  SLIP by itself
works ok, but integration into the rest of HP-UX is
awful, and the 40:1 overhead of normal (not compressed
header) SLIP makes interactive sessions a pain.
-tobi delbruck (tdelbruck@caltech.edu)
Caltech, Pasadena
From: tim@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Tim Pointing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Starbase and 9000/720 with HPA1659A graphics
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:23:19 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

Greetings. I have some software which seems to want to use the Starbase
graphics package on my 9000/720 system running 8.05. Alas, I don't seem to
have a /usr/lib/libdd* for the HPA1659A graphics subsystem. "/etc/dmesg"
describes this as a

	"HPA1659A Bit-Mapped Display (revision 8.02/10) in GSC slot 1"

The libdd*.a's that I seem to have are:

libdd98704.a    libdd98766.a    libdddl.a       libddhpcgm.a    libddsbv.a
libdd98705.a    libddCADplt.a   libddgcrx.a     libddhpgl.a     libddsox11.a
libdd98735.a    libddSMDpix.a   libddgks.kbd.a  libddhpterm.a
libdd98736.a    libddSMDpln.a   libddgksm.a     libddkbd.a
libdd98765.a    libddbyte.a     libddhil.a      libddlkbd.a

I tried to see if, maybe, there was a "libddA1659A.a" (or even libdd*1659*.a)
on the distribution CD-ROM but couldn't find one.

Is it possible to use Starbase graphics with this beastie? Is it going
to emulate something else?

E-mail responses preferred as I don't always get to this group before
the articles expire. If there seems to be interest, I will post a summary
back here. Many thanks in advance.
-- 
	  Tim Pointing, DCIEM
Internet: tim@dciem.dnd.ca or tim@ben.dciem.dnd.ca
UUCP:	  ...!utzoo!dciem!tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: wk@cup.hp.com (Wayne Krone)
Subject: Re: Does "monitor" run under HP-UX 9.0?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:03:28 GMT
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Doug Siebert (dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know if the unsupported tool "monitor" runs under HP-UX 9.0?  I

Yes.  Of course you have to install the 9.0 version out of the USRCONTRB
file set.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect vs Island Write
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:57:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.081007.24895@resonex.com> michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan) writes:

>I would change that to "Forget IslandWrite."  Period, no qualifiers as
>to what you need.  Unless, of course, you *want* a product which has an
>awkward user interface, hard-to-read font rendering, unstable mouse-cursor
>positioning, occassional lockups and crashes, and other various problems.

  I have had no bad experiences with IslandWrite on my HP 730 with
HPUX 8.09 -- in particular it has never locked up or crashed or had
mouse problems or bad font rendering.  The menu structure of
FrameMaker was much harder for me to learn than that of IslandWrite.
There is a very minor window sizing problem with the toolpallette of
IslandDraw on my system, but it appears to be a problem with the way
my system Xresources are setup and it has been minor enough that I
haven't spent much time trying to figure out which resource I need to
tweak.

  Island Write is just fine.  It doesn't have all the features of
FrameMaker but it is faster and much cheaper.  It all depends on what
you need.

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: elmar@knipp.en.open.de (Elmar Knipp)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:17:33 GMT
Organization: Private/FRG
Subject: Problem with HP-Drive C3010

I got a 2 Giga-Byte-Drive HP C3010 on a
HP 9000/720 (HP-UX 8.07). It works fine
about 3 days. After this, the drive
crached and is not reachable (SCSI at
boot-time works, but /dev/dsk/... cannot open).
I got a new one from my distributor. But
some days later, the same problem occured.
The SCIS-Bus is terminated correctly.
There are only original HP products on the
bus.

Now a have the 3rd drive on my desk.
Are there any hints to built in the
drive in the tower?

The drive is built in a original 
HP Tower, called "storage system". Other
drives (HP 97560, 1,6 MB) and a DAT-drive
worked without any problem.
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From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How do I mount from HP to OS/2 drive D:?
Summary: Remote mounts
Keywords: nfs
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:57:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.41189
Organization: Arete Associates, San Diego

In article <1992Nov18.015606.21156@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> nholford@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Nick Holford) writes:
>I have an HP730 and an OS/2 machine. I have used SAM to mount drive C:
>from the OS/2 machine by simply specifying \ as the OS/2 file system.
>SAM will not let me specify D:\ so how do I mount my OS/2 D: drive?

We always use the convention for NFS mounts /machine/diskx
everywhere, even on the local machine.  For example, if your machine
was called fred, the first disk on fred would be /fred/disk1.  No
matter where you log in, the path would be the same.  In your case,
the disk path for your OS/2 disks would always be /fred/d/

Hope this helps...

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: tcsh, emacs, rlogin and termcap support
In-reply-to: whiles@nswc.navy.mil's message of 23 Nov 92 15:32:42 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:49:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp

I STRONGLY disagree with Scott Hiles misstatement of fact.
Tcsh, emacs, and rlogins all work perfectly for me. I have 
logged in from my NeXT at home, some Sparcstations in Paris, 
Apollos in Israel, Dec machines all over, IBM RS600 in NYC, without
any problems.  The only minor problem I had was with a vt100 emulator
on the NeXT (called Stuart), which did not like the terminfo entry for
vt100 in HP-UX (it did not backspace correctly).  Changing one entry
fixed everything.

It seems we get more complaints from the Navy than from the other
services. Maybe too much exposure to sun ;-).
--
Hardy 
-----
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: conte@oprah.ece.scarolina.edu (Tom Conte)
Subject: Re: New to HPs...Thinking about buying one...need advice...
Keywords: pa-risc, clones, 486/586
Organization: ECE Department, University of South Carolina
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 03:41:26 GMT

In article <RXHyTB1w163w@gcarter>, gcarter!gcarter (George Carter) writes:
> It no longer makes any sense to buy computer systems 
> hardware from Sun, HP or Next for new applications.  Very 
> shortly it will be possible buy the Sun OS, the Next OS, 
> Windows NT and a variety of other UNIX systems that run 
> on the 486/586 platform.  Some of these are already 
> available.  Only a small performance difference, if any, exists 
> between the reported speed of the 586 and traditional UNIX 
> platforms. 

Bunk.

For my code, a 486DX2 is about 1/16th the speed of my 9000/720.

> George
> gcarter@infoserv.com


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