From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Subject: Re: To all you weenies....
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:59:40 GMT

In article <92098.172257BEUBB@CUNYVM.BITNET> BEUBB@CUNYVM.BITNET (Beng L. Ung) writes:
>
>In article <1992Apr7.194329.1683@athena.mit.edu>, zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor
>Aazizam Mohd Aasif) says:
>>
>>In article <1992Apr7.225752.4575@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
>>chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr6.203940.7622@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor
>>Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>>
>>>>      My advice to these people: go to a library and get yourself a
>>>>book, and read!  The largest contributors of CO2 are the developed
>>>>nations.  Try to see whether they are doing everything they can to
>>>>reduce their own CO2 emissions.  Easiest case: the US.  Is Bush doing
>>>>anything in his power to curb this problem?  Then, ask yourself
>>>>whether the ocean or the jungle is the primary oxygen-resupplier.
>>>
>>>This is the same ignorance as that exhibited by the PM in his speech.
>>>The main topic seems to be global warming due to CO2 etc.  However,
>>>the real issue here is the loss of the rain forrest.
>>
>>        You have shown your naiveness by the above statement.  Why
>>should the world be concerned with *our* rain-forests?  Why?  There
>>must be a reason to it.  Yes, because according to these people,
>
>Unless someone like you can patch the hole in the ozone layer getting
>as big as Alaska.


	Could you tell me what our rain-forest has got to do with the
ozone depletion?  Nothing!!  There might be some relation between the
ozone depletion and the acid rain problem, (Science News, 12/6/1986,
p. 362) but we are talking about global warming here!!.

	Tell me how CFC relate to CO2, which is the main pollutant
responsible for the global warming problem.


>Best solution is definitely curbing CO2.  But that isn't the only
>cause of global warming.  You know how to give a solution and you
>should learn how to accept a solution, too.  Reducing logging
>is a solution.

	We can always argue what kinds of pollutants are responsible
for the global warming problem, but I am only interested in the major
pollutant, CO2 because that is the only pollutant that has anything to
do with our rain-forest.  People want our rain-forest for the purpose
of converting the CO2 into oxygen.  I say limit the production of CO2
and we will not have to take our rain-forest into this argument
anymore.  But you know what?  Even the "Environmental President" has
refused to curb the CO2 emissions even though it is at an all-time
high.  Why should we bear the burden of the developed world?

	See my point?

>>on the other hand, has alleged that these countries are concerned
>>about our rain-forests because they hate losing them, and not having
>>them in this world.  If this is the case, why not they replant the
>>rain-forests somewhere and treat it like an endangered species?
>>
>>        You can include yourself as another totally clueless guy who
>>jumps on the bandwagon without knowing the issue at hand.
>
>Plant a rain-forest somewhere else?  You must be kidding me.
>Maybe I can do it in my backyard someday.

	Why not?  What is the purpose of replanting then?  Rain-forest
can be replaced, and since we need the income, we might as well let
the developed nations take care of their own CO2 problem.  We are not
a charity basketball, willing to restrict our income so that the
developed world can continue to emit CO2...

>>        Who is more important: animals or humans?  Logging is the
>>third biggest money-earner for our country.  If that means we should
>>lose a couple of animal species, I don't think there is anything wrong
>>with it.  Unless you are one of those people who values animals more
>>than you value humans...
>>
>
>Both.  Loosing animals isn't important huh, you egotistical a**hole.
>I bet some rat bit you when you were a child.  Be aware that curbing
>both CO2 emmision and logging will have long term benefits to our
>little planet.  Be nice.

	I am more interested in developing the country and seeing it
turn into a developed nation, than saving our rain-forest for the
amusement of the developed nations.  We should not bear their burden!!
They create the mess, they should clean it up themselves....
>
>Not only our rain forest, but all rain forests still alive today is a
>good supplier of oxygen.  If you curb logging, don't you save the animals
>too, at the same time?  Therefore, the three concerns of curbing logging
>are to save the world, the natives, and the animals.

	But the ocean is a much better ecosystem as an oxygen
resupplier.  

>>        Not when you are telling the truth....
>
>But no one here believes you.  So it's still a lie.

	I don't care if you guys believe me or not.  What matters is
that my friends believe that I am telling the truth, which I am, and
that all that matters to me...

>Everybody makes mistakes and now they are paying for it.  I hope we,
>Malaysian don't have to do that in future.
>
>ps. It's not nice to tell someone to go to Hong Kong, Singapore or Taiwan.
>    You would want someone to critize you too, right?

	I only told racist-pigs to go to hell, not nice people...

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NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud