HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hatter@cs.utexas.edu (John Eichenseer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Kurzweil 1000 PX - sounding thin over upper middle range.
Date: 11 Sep 1992 10:33:45 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu

In article <=8tnd1f@lynx.unm.edu> burd@hydra.unm.edu (Stephen Burd ASM) writes:
>I think Young Chang (Kurzweil) simply contracted with somebody else to
>manufacture the sound blocks.  I doubt that your problem is
>caused by either the A or B block since I don't think these
>contain the piano sample.  This conjencture is based on the fact
>that the original PX (8 button, no A or B ROMs) has the same
>piano programs as the upgraded PX's.  Thus, I would assume that
>the piano samples aren't contained in either of the expansion blocks.

Right; there are no acoustic piano samples in the sound blocks. Greg's
trouble is with the stock piano sample, and does not seem to be
particular to his 1000...

>The velocity variability is probably related to the fact that many of the
>base samples are dual samples.  One sample is used for low velocity values
>and the other is used for high velocity values.  For the grand piano, there 
>is a 'soft strike' and 'hard strike' sample.  I assume this is the same
>for the extended stereo piano due to the fact that the bad sound only
>occurs at low velocity values.

I believe the extended piano sample actually uses three different
samples at various velocity levels. As I recall, you can access
these separately as soundfiles Mellow Piano, Bright Piano, and...
er... i forget what the third one was. 

Greg's trouble isn't due to "corrupted" samples - just "bad" samples.
A couple of the piano ranges just weren't integrated as skillfully as
the rest. It is, in my opinion, a relatively minor fault; I still
find the Kurz piano to be one of the most realistic and useable. 
The Rolands have better (smoother) dynamic response and frequency
spectrum, but the Kurz is warmer and more realistic, I think. Each
has its advantages, as do the rest. 

I still use the Kurzweil incessantly, and often swear by it. Then again,
I don't use it for classical music very much, which is more demanding. 
No substitute for the real thing....

regards,

jhno
hatter@cs.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jjh@col.hp.com (Jeff Haeffele-x3570)
Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:25:04 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Is there a rack mount version of the sound canvas combined with a
hw sequencer?  What is an MV-30?

Thanks,
Jeff
From: vagif.abilov@thcave.no (Vagif Abilov) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Thunderball Cave BBS - Oslo, Norway  (47 2) 56 70 18
Reply-To: vagif.abilov@thcave.no (Vagif Abilov) 

RE: Message 5039 entered on Sep 3,92 by TONY R. BELTRAN to ALL


TR I use an MV-30 (Studio-M) by Roland. ...

Hi, Tony!

Thanks for your comprehensive report on MV-30. I've also started using this
unit, and I'm really happy with it. I managed to buy it for 9,950 NOK, which
is equivalent to US$ 1,700. It is extremely user-friendly.

But since I'm new to MV-30 (and basically I'm new to MIDI, because I used
to have D-20 which had everything inside), I'm not quite sure if I use all
advantages of MV-30. I bought Roland JV-30 to use as a keyboard controller
keeping in mind that it has built-in Sound Canvas and I will be able to
use those sounds as well. So now I can mix MV-30 and JV-30 sounds. Using
internal MV-30 sounds I can program everything (program change, pan, effects).
But can I do the same with JV-30? Of course, I've learned how to set program
numbers, volume and pan settings. But each synth module has some extra
functions which are unique for it. For example, JV-30 has 4 buttons for
sound variations: Fat, Dual, Split and Octave. Can I control them from MV-30
instead of striking them manually? Is it what is called SysEx messages, or
there is no way to access such buttons using MIDI. So the basic question is
the following: using just MV-30 I can make everything automatic - just push
Start/Stop key and the song will be played. Is this also true for devices
controlled by MV-30, or I have to make some settings during the performance?
I realize that you may not have JV-30 keyboard, but I will appreciate if you
can share some of your experience in this area.

Best regards

Vagif.
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From: airpreet@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Sunny Singh or Airpreet)
Subject: WANTED: AKAI mcp 60
Originator: airpreet@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, WI
	looking 4 used mcp 60
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:20:38 GMT




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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: schabtac@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Adam Schabtach)
Subject: Re: cheap acid bass drum
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:37:07 GMT

In article <18jo5hINNfk6@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) writes:
>
>I was lead to beleive that the term "acid" in "acid-house" comes from
>a slang term for "sampling".  Comments?

I was led to believe, by an interview with Genesis P. Orridge, that
"acid" came from "acid-burning" which was a slang term for sampling
(particularly sampling bits of music, rather than individual sounds).
However, when US house-music recordings with references to "acid"
arrived in the UK, people assumed LSD was being talked about (they
weren't familiar with Chicago-area DJ slang, y'see). So on that side of
the ocean, "acid house" did come to imply LSD rather than PCM, so
to speak.

Of course, Genesis P. could have made all that up... 

--
--Adam                          |   I'm looking for a 16-bit sample of
schabtac@stout.ucar.edu         |     the sound of one hand clapping.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Wanted: FTP sites for standard MIDI files
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:17:46 GMT

The subject basically says it all.  I'd be especially interested in any sites
with MIDI files of Rush songs, but I'll listen to anything once :)  I don't
normally read this group, so please Email and I'll summarize if anyone cares.

Thanks!!!!


-- 
   _IanSchmidt(oINet+irsman@iastate.edu,oBITNET+twbv4@isuvax,$C000,Data)
     Data  dc i'Apple IIgs,Rush,Tiny Toons,Dave Barry,David Letterman'
 "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will" - Neil Peart
From: gt3281c@prism.gatech.EDU (TABLER,JOHN ALEXANDER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Win3.1 review in Keyboard(????)
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:29:43 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


   Someone recently metioneed a review of Win3.1 based sequencers which was
published in this months (?) issue of Keyboard.
   I would like to read the article, but can not find it.
   Please e-mail me the details of the issue (month, number, exact title)

Thank You,

John T.
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:14732 sdnet.forsale:412
From: rand@muttley.ucsd.edu (Rand Steiger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,sdnet.forsale,ucsd.buy+sell
Subject: TX16W FOR SALE (follow up)
Date: 11 Sep 1992 18:19:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: muttley.ucsd.edu

I have received a lot of interest in the TX16W's that I posted on the net, far
more then I had anticipated. Thanks to all those who inquired, and my apologies
for taking so long with my responses.

The standard model is no longer available (I am trading it for a powerbook 100).
The unit with upgraded memory (4.5 mb) is still available, and I wanted to give
everyone a chance to bid on it now that I have some sense of its value. 

Here's the deal:

Yamaha TX16W sampler, perfect condition, with all documentation

2 Yamaha 1.5 mb memory modules (expands sample time to 162 seconds @ 16.7khz)
(already installed)

plus the entire Yamaha sample library (about 100 disks)

shipped C.O.D. by UPS - buyer pays postage

opening bid $1000

Bids accepted via email (to rand@ucsd.edu) through Tuesday, Sept. 15

Thanks for your interest.

-RS
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:14521 news.groups:17642
From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
Subject: Re: rec.music.synth renaming discussion in news.groups
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 18:00:27 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Sep4.212946.8390@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> (rec.music.synth), nsw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Neil Weinstock) writes:
> 
> There is currently a discussion underway in news.groups to reorganize the
> rec.music.makers hierarchy.  Among the newsgroups under discussion is
> rec.music.synth.  The name "synth" is being questioned ("electronic" has
> been suggested as an alternative), as is the possibility of splitting into
> "synth" and "keyboard" groups (they seem to have been talked out of renaming
> "synth" to "keyboard" for now.)
> 
> Anyway, I suggest that those who have an interest in this should go check
> it out.
> 
>                                 - Neil
No more discussion is needed on it.  Leave rec.music.synth the way
it is and tell the net nerds to mind their own business.

David
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:14532 alt.rap:4383 alt.rave:2909
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,alt.rap,alt.rave
Subject: Re: Roland DJ70 sampler workstation
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:56:39 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: mcarlsso@sdcc13.ucsd.edu's message of 5 Sep 92 00:43:27 GMT

In article <37704@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> mcarlsso@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mars) writes:

   Has anyone out there tried out Rolands DJ70??

Yeah. It's dead brill. Great fun.

   Also what's up with that ridiculous 'scratch'
   platter??

Oh, the scratch wheel? It's brill. Pure dead brill.

   That's gotta sound like crap, right!?!?!?

No, it sounds great.

The DJ70 is the only synth/sampling product on the market that can bring
smiles to the faces of the entire assembled membership of Team Metlay,
and reduce a major Pittsburgh music store to a state of near-anarchy.

Don't knock it.

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
From: ngse18@castle.ed.ac.uk (J R Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Grand Piano Advice Wanted
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:51:36 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


rdm@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Bob Morrison) quotes someone unnamed:

>>I'm interested in buying one of the smaller grand pianos (under 6ft), and would

I'm not sure that r.m.s is the best place for this discussion, but in the
absence of any other followup ...

My upright (Knight K10 -- fully recommended) has been taking a bashing
lately (too many Cecil Taylor imitations!) and I put my head into my dealer's
shop to ask him to call in and move me up in his tuning rota.  I took the
opportunity to drool over the grands he had in stock.  Last time I looked,
I had been quite impressed with the Yamaha Conservertoire, in terms of its
price/quality ratio, but on the example he had on this occasion, I was less
than happy with the action.  He tells me that Yamaha use their own design
rather than the classic Renner (sp?) mechanism.  He persuaded me (OK, so I 
didn't need a lot of persuading!) to try a Seiler he has just started to stock
as a midpoint between the Yamahas and the Bechsteins.  I was very impressed.
The repetition was very fast, and the tone as bright as a Steinway (to my
ear, anyway -- he didn't have one to compare against).  Are these pianos
sold in the States?  Anyone have any experiences?  [Although I might be
able to afford a Yamaha soon, the price of the Seiler will beggar me!]

Russ
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: glennd@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Glen Deardorff GDP)
Subject: Re: New Korg 03R/W For Sale ($800)
Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:03:47 GMT

Sorry to beat the proverbial dead horse, but I must correct my last post on this subject.

I had said that my brother was now asking $750, when in fact the figure is $800 (so much
for rushed phone calls).  I believe he will still attempt to sell it within town for more, but feel free to make an offer.

my brother George:	(408) 479-4490

or me:			(415) 604-3169

			glennd@george.arc.nasa.gov

Apologies for the doublespeak.

- Glenn
From: cgreen@acsu.buffalo.edu (Charles W Green)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Need suggestions for k1000 midi hard/softwear
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:25:06 GMT
Followup-To: cgreen@acus.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB


I am getting ready to purchase hardware and softwear for my Kurzweil  K1000
to be used with a 486/33.  Can anyone suggest a good card and program for me
I basically want to compose and sequence.  Or if you know of a good resource
I can contact,it would be most appreciated.


Charlie Green
cgreen@acus.buffalo.edu
From: sbranson@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Tigger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: PG200 Controller for Roland
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:03:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Hello out there:

Is there anyone in the US that has or has seen the PG200 Synthesis
controller for the ancient (yet midi) Roland JX-3P keyboard? I
really really want one. Any info, feedback would be much
appreciated.

Also, has anyone found a way to Bulk Dump the JX-3P via midi. Am am
interested in using it with Opcode's Galaxy. Any suggestions?

Tigger

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,alt.cyberpunk
From: coan@griffin (Brian M Coan)
Subject: MIDI stobe lights??
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:22:37 GMT

MIDI lights?

I was thinking the other day about how it would be cool to have a light
system, even a single strobe which could be mounted on my keyboard
stand or whatever, which could respond to MIDI input. For example, I
have a stobe mounted on stage, it receives on channel 16, and channel 16
has, say, the same notes as the bass-drum track of my song. Ergo, strobe
to the bpm. Sounds cool!

I'm sure these gadgets exist. Am I right? If not, they should!! Anyone know
where to find them?

--
BRIAN M COAN
coan@emba.uvm.edu
--

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jay@cmn3.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis)
Subject: Re: EMG CONTROLLERS
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 17:41:10 GMT

In article <9209121639.AA00307@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>  
JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
> 
> I have never used EMG as a control source but in the lat 70s I designed  
an
> EEG controller for voltage controlled synths [Mind-Meld (TM)].  Although  
the
> actual signals are different, I would guess that what you do with them  
is
> probably more important anyway.  So, send me direct e-mail comcerning  
your
> specific application and I might be able to help you on the signal  
conditioning
> end.
> 
> John

I didn't see the original post, but I am guessing that what is desired is  
a way of using EMG signals as MIDI controllers.  The BioMuse is a  
commercially available product developed at Stanford by Ben Knapp and Hugh  
Lusted.  It allows EOG and EMG signals to be acquired and sent out as MIDI  
controllers.  We have been using the BioMuse in live performance control  
situations with good results.  E-mail me if you want to get in touch with  
Ben and Hugh.

Jay Kadis
jay@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Info wanted on Super Jupiter/JX10
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:14:00 GMT

rga@rti.rti.org writes
 Seriously, I am in need of a description of the sound producing
> capability of the Roland Super Jupiter/JX10 keyboard. I have a line on
> one.
> 
> My understanding is that the Super JX is in some way comparable to the
> MKS70 rack unit, no ?
> 	- Does it have any master controller capability ?
> 	- Does it have the same synthesis architecture ?
> 
> Any help much appreciated.
> Randy Alley
> rga@rti.rti.org

The Super JX and the MKS-70 are exactly the same thing (regarding sound  
generation, of course).  They can share data carts, they use the same  
remote programmer (PG-800) and sysex dumps from one can be loaded into the  
other (I believe).  I have both and enjoy them immensely.  The JX can  
transmit on two channels simultaneously so it is semi-flexible but not  
very much. The only real differences in the software is the MIDI setup  
available on a per patch basis on the SuperJX enabling each patch to  
transmit on a different channel(s). If you would like any more detailed  
information let me know.  

Alex
NeXTmail preferred

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,soc.culture.celtic
From: dmcnamar@netcom.com (Dennis McManara)
Subject: Product Announcement: Composer's WorkBench
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 19:15:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Composer's WorkBench is a full featured notator/sequencer for the IBM PC.
CWB's "computing metaphor" is the composer's score, not a recording engineer's
control panel, and is optimized for celtic music, with true bagpipe drone and
grace notes.

CWB requires an 80286 ( AT) or better, MSDOS 3.3, 256K ram, and a 360K
floppy.

CWB is archived and can be downloaded by anonymous ftp from
oak.oakland.edu
in .../msdos/music/cwb13.zip
or email me.

The archived version has all features enabled except that new music you
create is limited to 16 bars. A full license, enabling you to create music
whose length is limited only by the amount of ram you have, is $100 U.S.
and is not copy protected.

-- 
Dennis McNamara dmcnamar@netcom.com
Purveyor of Fine Software: Composer's WorkBench
From: gt3281c@prism.gatech.EDU (TABLER,JOHN ALEXANDER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Help with Master Tracks Pro Problems...PLEASE!
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:45:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

The following is a note from a friend of mine.  We are both interested in
resolving the problems he describes... 

.....................
 I am using Master Tracks Pro with a Music Quest 32-M MIDI card.  My computer
is a 386-20SX and I have Windows version 3.1.  I am experiencing two major
problems with the software.  
   
   The first problem occurs when there is a MIDI
input connected to the computer and the software is sending playback
information to the keyboard.  If you play along with the music on the same
keyboard, the computer will lock up and automatically reboot after a few
minutes.  I am assuming that the output data from the keyboard is filling up
some kind of record buffer, but I am not sure.  I am almost certain that it is
not a MIDI feedback loop, because the 'thru' feature on the interface card can
be turned on and off from the software.

The second problem occurs when recording from multiple sources, especially drum
machines.  When the recording is played back, notes that originally occurred on
the same beat are skewed slightly, producing an effect similar to flanging. 
This problem makes the sequencer useless for critical recordings.

If anyone has experienced these same problems and has some insight on the
subject, please let me know.
.....................

Thank you

From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:19:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Time compression/expansion of samples
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

In rec.music.synth, The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:

>Does anyone know of a good way of performing pitch-invariant time compression/
>expansion of samples?

This is a perfect use for phase-vocoder algorithms.  The first method you
describe is pretty much the idea.  Let's see what references I can dig up
here:
  Portnoff, Michael R., "Implementation of the Digital Phase Vocoder Using
  the Fast Fourier Transform," IEEE Transactions on Acoustics, Speech,
  and Signal Processing, Vol. ASSP-24, No. 3, June 1976

  (that one is probably the best reference.)

  Moorer, James A., "The Use of the Phase Vocoder in Computer
  Music Applications," Journal of the Audio Engineering Society,
  Jan/Feb 1978, Vol. 26, Number 1/2

  Dolson, Mark, "The Phase Vocoder: A Tutorial," Computer Music Journal,
  Vol. 10, No.4, winter 1986

Good luck,
	  
                 - Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
            Yupatupata da yupadupa chickida, Icktang icktang, 
            Ickitack tangdow, Rickitickatar ticka chingtar da.
From: 87141167@BRUFSC.BITNET (Flavio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Help!!! Comparison between prices at BRAZIL
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:18:45 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Hello fellows,

    Brazil is getting into the MIDI ERA (commercially talking)!!!
    With the opening of the doors to free commerce international,
a company here is releasing/distributing MUSIC/MIDI software.
    I'd like a help from you, saying if the following prices are too
high.

PASSPORT:

   For IBM PC and MacIntosh
      Master Tracks for PC : $527.00
      Master Tracks for Mac: $660.00
      Encore               : $794
      Trax                 : $200
      Music Time           : $332
      MIDI Interface       : $159

   For MacIntosh
      Audio Tracks         : $400
      Alchemy              : $926


OPCODE:

   For MacIntosh
      Vision               : $659
      Studio Vision        : $1327
      Galaxy Plus Editor   : $507
      Easy Vision          : $200
      MAX                  : $500
      MIDI Interface       : $159

    Thanks in advance,
Flavio

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From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Musicians Friend
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:11:38 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

In article <1992Sep4.055034.13503@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bob.Weigel@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bob Weigel) writes:
>        I have had mostly good experiences with this company, which
>runs out of my home state.  I had one very interesting problem which
>they did no cope with in a professional manner.  I ordered a mike
>stand so that I could check out the quality to see if it would serve
>the purposes of a campus group I was helping  outfit.  They sent me
>a very satisfactory mike stand, so I ordered two for this group.  Guess
>what?  They sent me a totally different model which was totally unsatis-
>factory!  They did not find themselves able to send the  other type, so I
>had to find another supplier.  I won't go into detail, except to say that
>the three times I have had this type of problem, they  have CONSISTANTLY
>dropped the ball, and covered up for each others mistakes.  I wind up with
>a bunch of wasted time and nothing to show for it.

This is surprising since over the years I've bought numerous things from
them and have always been satisfied.  You were able to return the items
using their 14 day return policy, right?

David.
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