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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:06:12 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: VERSES FOR SMITH

>Ohmygod they are getting worse!  The powers/flowers rime is o.k., though
>somewhat hackeneyed (hackneyed).... but the appearance/nuance is
>defective....  try "fucking appearance/fancy-a-near-ance" for a clever
>turn of phrase.

Turns of phrases ah so clever
Are detrimental to poetic diction
'Cause although they are clever
They lack a lyrical sensation

Giggles, before giving a lecture
On the subject of poetic diction
Please make your fundas stricter
On the subject of lyrical sensation!

What are rhymes to the body poetic
Than meretricious face-farding?
If the gut holds not feelings authentic
What's the value of mere tuneful farting?

With this alimentary lesson on poetry
I humbly request thy leave
I hope that thou learnt that poetry
Is neither juggling nor a rhyming-bee!

For the greatest masters of poetry
Will agree with me to a T
That to write true poetry
Thou shouldst write spontaneously!

And use poetic diction
Like shortened 'ords and "thou" and "twain"
For a wondersome lyrical sensation.
Mere rhymes and meters are lame!

Yet I have tried to rhyme well
And I fancy I have much succeeded
So watch thine bloody mouth before thou tellst
Me how to bury the hackney unobstructed!

                                <dedicated to Gilbert Smith>

tushar
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shirt 1.1 under construction
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> Many thanks to the Words-L t-shirt beta test team.
> I've just sent So0p3r s3|<re+ instructions to the List Goddess regarding
> Shirt Design 1.1: now funnier and more hilarious than e\/3R b4! Stay

It's probably going to be a week or so before you get to see design 1.1.
That's because it will probably be four or five more days before I get
what I will then have to mail to abh.  Just thought I'd let you know so
that you won't be worrying about whether you might have missed file 1.1.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:45:14 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject: Re: Political Correctness Bullshot
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From: gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>

>
> I'm so happy when I find an ally....  it happens so seldom around here.
> And particularly delightful after all the nasty things <ts> has been
> saying about my enlightened point of view.
> --ggs

The official Canadian Gov't Document for language to do with
the handicapped is available via ANONYMOUS ftp from
camins.camosun.bc.ca  in the directory ANONYMOUS.MISC

I am interested in comments on it, if anyone cares so to do.

Peter
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:35:00 EST
From:         AYC3@NCH08A.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      WORDS-L TP: Anjani's Science/Nature Ques
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"When is the winter solstice in the Southern Hemisphere?"

Well, it's when the summer solstice is in the Northern Hemisphere, and I
believe that is June 21 or thereabouts.  Sport/Leisure next?

--Anjani
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:09:13 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Asians
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        > By way of wiley digression, what is the appropriate name for a
        > resident of the western hemisphere (North or South America) ?

        To me, the appropriate name is American.  I don't know why Europeans
        (and some Canadians) insist on using that term in a narrower sense.

We don't; if you read a wider range of Usenet groups you'd realise that
it's regularly USA people who talk about Americans in contexts that exclude
Canada and South American countries, and it's the Europeans and Canadians
who take them to task over it.  (We're also the ones who have to remind
you now and then about how little your precious Constitution has to do
with modern US politics since you guys seem to lose track of your own
civil liberties all too easily...)

G
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Posted on 24 Jan 1993 at 23:01:00 by samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
>One CAN
>see some kind of Indian "influence" into Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, but
>certainly not in China.

Huh?  What about Buddhism?  And a lot of Chinese art is Indian
influenced.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:21:19 -0500
From:         Enormes Rebajas <rita@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Hmm.
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              93 01:42:13 am

> But Rita, tens of thousands of people have seen eff make a public statement
> saying they wouldn't chop your accounts....  how come the world account?

        Because I don't work there anymore and I'd rather disassociate
myself from them virtually.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:57:48 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: au revoir
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> those times.  I've tried to work *and* play wordsler this week, and it's
> been awful.  I must give up something, and to my regret it's WORDS-L.
> [next message, to the listserv:  set words-l nomail]

Although not the answer to Carolyn's question of HOW we can do it, it's
the answer to WHY -- why some of us don't read all the list mail.  Those
unable to handle temperance must resort at times to total abstinence --
a tough price to pay for not being able to delete some list mail unread.

Hurry back, Neal!  I already miss you.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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              at Jan 27, 93 6:34 pm

> I'm about to add up the rankings received today and need some clarification.
> Am I correct in assuming that NC = No?

No Comment.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:44:50 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>I would not be surprised if this becomes a legal precedent, and that we
>see this euphemism <springing up> in future cases in place of the more
>clinically correct term <Johnson>.

"Johnson" sounds dated. If it's a matter of filling the blank in "pulling
a ..." nothing's better than "Clinton".

tushar
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:21:14 +1100
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Yet Another Holiday Report.
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>Kalamazoo, eh?  Hmm...not much like Oz as I remember it.  But there is
>a lot of snow.
>
>Karen
>Michigan native

Am I missing some piece of vital information? What's Oz got to do with it?

Carolyn
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G posts:

   I didn't pay attention to it, but lyrics quoted by Americans are generally
   by Bob Dylan.  Lyrics quoted by Brits are the Beatles.  Although in your
   case there's a small chance it could be the Greatful Dead.

There's no such thing as the Greatful Dead.

	//anne, who knows//
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:21:31 CST
From:         Bernard Chien Perro <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      My Rankings
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>_3__ Boone, NC
>_2__ Elsewhere in NC
>___ Edinburg, TX
>___ Galway, Ireland
>___ Elsewhere in Ireland
>___ Portland
>_1__ Starkville, MS
>___ Toronto
>
>Comments:  If I were going to a gathering in Ireland in early July, I
            would have had to have gotten there by now because of the
            six-month quarantine.  The introduction of the Ireland idea
            without six-months advance notice is clearly specist.
                        o/.\____/
         -- Bernard      \______|
                         / \  / \
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:41:02 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Torture, again.
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Well, last week in our undergraduate research group, we read an article
called "The Education of a Torturer" by Janice Gibson and Mika
Haritos-Fatouros.  The article was originally published in Psychology
Today in 1986, and was reprinted in a Comp II text under the section on
Obedience to Authority.  The article is truly chilling.  It mentions
several other studies I have known about, including Stanley Milgram's
experiments w/ shock treatments and Ronald Jones Third Wave experiment
w/ high school students.

The ultimately chilling conclusion is that torturer's MUST have normal
personalities--"Any of us, in a similar situation, might be capable of
the same cruelty.  One probably cannot train a deranged sadist to be an
effective torturer or killer.  He must be in complete control of himself
on the job."

The evidence for this is quite convincing, but I still want to deny it.
I guess that's just my American Optimism.

Karen
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Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:39:36 GMT
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In a previous article, samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU () says:

>>>You could at least have said "Thank you Wombat for making the subject headings
>>> so distinctive!" :-(
>>
>>But that is something I manage to say every time I comne across one of those
>>messages!
>
>Please, let's not have two people making Graham-type remarks here.
>
We already have two, so why not one more?  Afraid of the competition,
Tushie?

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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:00:59 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pot-bellied laughs
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> Big story on 'human interest' slot on news tonight: pot-bellied pigs
> bought during the craze a few years ago are all now turning into
> whopping 18-stone monsters...  most people are either having them put
> down, or paying big bucks to have them stay on a farm.  (The obvious
> solution isn't on, apparently, because they're inedible...)
>
Why are they inedible?
doris
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Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:32:18 GMT
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In a previous article, EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Tony Harminc) says:

>Posted on 25 Jan 1993 at 16:33:07 by Ruth M. Hanschka
>
>>out of its line of sight....  A Dodge Geezer, I am told, is better known as a
>>Dodge Dart, aka a more or less indestructible, and incredibly ugly, hunk of
>>Detroit iron, most commonly found in shades of olive drab, or puke green,
>>although they have been seen in red.
>
>A friend of mine used to have a Plymouth Vallium.
>
Named for its performance on highways and byways, no doubt.  Or did it have
that sopophoric an effect on the driver?  Ever try driving a '73 Toyota?
No acceleration [worse than Putt!] and no shocks to speak of; it was the
worst car I ever rode in....  At least I think it was a 73; it might have
been older.  A pure-d multihued rambling wreck it was....
[my mom borrowed it from a friend when her car died; I was about 10.
Haven't considered buying foreign since....:-) ]

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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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>    I concede.  Let's get this over with and start working on Double
>    Croning, 3/19/93.  (I will have a surprise for you and Kay.)

Ok.  How are we going to make a final decision on Bake '93?  How about
using a ranking system?  All those who might come to a list event July 4
should put 1 by first choice of site, 2 by second choice, etc. and should
leave blank (or write 'no') by sites that are out of the question for
them.  Am I correct in assuming that we're ruling out Oz for '93?

____ Boone, NC
____ Elsewhere in NC
____ Edinburg, TX
____ Galway, Ireland
____ Elsewhere in Ireland
____ Portland
____ Starkville, MS
____ Toronto

Comments: _______________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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In a previous article, WWCEM114%SIVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu () says:

>This is the Graham Toal Emergency Self-Absorption System. This is not a test.
>If Graham Toal deletes this post without responding, it will flood every
>network account in the .uk domain with the message "GRAHAM TOAL HAS A THREE-
>INCH JOHN HENRY", accompanied by a gif of the same.
>
>Further details forthcoming.
>
Fizzy, izzat you?   And where can we get that gif?
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: outerbanks prices
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 CROSEN@bgsuopie.bitnet wrote:

> the ocean, and lots of other cool features rents for 1,050 bucks
> in season.
> Hey, sounds like the big chill or something doesn't it?

<gulp>. That price chills me.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jan 1993 22:23:55 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Maya
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:G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK> writes:
: > :Maya's poem undoubtedly ensured her a place of honor in the annals of
: > :history.  It was wonderful.  I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for copies of
: > :the actual poem, but, it must be said that much of the brillance was in the
: > :reading.
: >
: > With so many people swooning over this marvellous poem, I wonder if
: > I should confidently predict it's going to turn out to be the usual
: > sicklingly cloying American mawkish sentimental trash?

:Oh Graham, nothing personal, but fuck you.

Does that mean I was right then?

Can't wait to see it now...

G
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Subject: Re: Inaugural Concert
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N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (gilbertsmith) writes:
> Michael Jackson was lipsynching, I'm sure.

He definitely lipsynched the second song.  The first one might have
been live - I didn't catch any mouth/music sychronization problems.

There was a distinct change in vocal tone between the first and
second songs, too.

CBS really bungled this show.  They cut away from several performers
in the middle of songs and didn't bother to show the signing translator
in the corner of the screen.

--karsten
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torkel@SICS.SE writes:
>   In this particular novel, perhaps the most unbearable aspect of the
> story itself is the suffocating cuteness of the little girl Alafair,
> who should have been strangled at birth.

Delete her from the story.  Who is going to notice?

--karsten
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: From the Annals of Poetry
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:Yeesh--that't the third time on this list alone. I wondered why usenet got
:so stinking slow in the last 24 hours. Tellya what: I'm gonna put that
:poem in my .plan, and anytime anyone wants to read it, they can finger
:harwell@tenet.edu.

Last time I finger you, that's for sure.

G
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
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>PS.  I forgot to add to my last post:
>        gray would look awesome with your eyes.
>'nuff said.
>        //anne//

Not so.  People have insulted me by commenting on my beautiful <gray> eyes at
such times.  I politely, but coldly, remind them that my eyes are <blue>, and
that anything that isn't <blue> is just a variation on mundane <brown>.

Signed, ol' blue eyes
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:07:51 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Oops Again
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I suddenly remembered that I'm on Isis, not Ra, so the machine talk I
sent was of Isis and Ra talking.  Thus, not relevant to the wombat situation.
I shouldn't try to talk on the phone and send postings at the same time.
I'll need to try the test from Ra to see the meaningful machine talk.  But
I can't seem to log onto Ra now because it keeps telling me something about
a pwdauth demon.  I think Frank is playing with the system again.  <sigh>
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Asians
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              26 Jan 93 05:56:05 -0600. <9301261411.AA06496@sics.se>

  >I thought Buddhist sutras were in Pali, not Sanskrit.

  Some of them, which are called something, are in Pali, and others,
which are also called something, are in Sanskrit.

  This demonstrates the exact depth of my knowledge of Buddhism.
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Uh, Neal, Pebbles is Barney's daughter-in-law; she's the daughter of
Fred and Wilma Flintstone.

Evelyn
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About the words-l t-shirt...

   I'll take two, too.

BettyZ (actually, I expected to see a pig on it somewhere)
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>>I politely, but coldly, remind them that my eyes are <blue>,

>Nonsense, they are grey. Who are you trying to con?

        I politely, but coldly, remind Tushar that my eyes are <blue>.

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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Bye for now
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        Ah, what a list. I dare say, itsebastian of intelectual acuity.

Enough!  Shoo, man!

G
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In a previous article, g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (G) says:

>:billowy, iridescent jelly fish...stings and a burning sensation were a
>:powerful reminder that what may look beautiful and harmless can often be
>:just the opposite.
>
>Ah, out of the mouths of <babes>...
>
How sharper than a serpent's tooth?....

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