From: M.Titahmboh@lut.ac.uk (Mana TitahMboh)
Subject: Re: SADF Purge
Organization: Loughborough University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 13:41:23 GMT

In article <Dec.21.17.36.54.1992.27639@andromeda.rutgers.edu>,
detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio) writes:
|> llk@kepler.unh.edu (Local Genius) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <Dec.20.19.33.27.1992.8310@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
|> detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio) [commenting on Gavan's post]
|> writes:
|> 
|> >[...]
|> >>
|> >>into retirement when SA seems to be at a crossroads.  I am sure the
|> >>SA Press is having a field day with this news, and that the ANC in all
|> >>of its arrogance will call for more and call for the State President to
|> >>step aside.
|> 
|> >David, I suggest you refrain from commenting on stuff you know nothing
|> >about...the SADF has been accused of killing people opposed to the
|> >current system of the way things are run in SA...how can you call it
|> >arrogant when people call for accountability of the govt to things like
|> >these?
|> 
|> I have studied and consider myself above average with my knowledge of
|> the situation in SA, and will offer my opinions and banter with the
|> rest here on the network for as long as the situation presents itself.
|> 

This is what you would point to, to illustrate arrogance!
[But it is arrogant of me to point it out]

|> It is arrogant of the ANC or ANY, repeat ANY organization to call for
|> the removal of the State President at such a critical time in the
|> history of South Africa.
|> 

The ANC or ANY other **political organisation opposed to the present system**
has the right, nay the duty, to take every opportunity to exploit weaknesses in
the administration [ de Klerk]. For someone who "has studied and is above
average intelligence", I am amazed you think the ANC should be propping up a
gov't which was "elected" by a small-very small- minority of the population of
SA!

|> Those responsible for the improper action should be removed, and a
|> complete investigation and report should be conducted.  This is going
|> to be one of the stepping stones to reform you are going to have to deal
|> with, nothing is easy in politics, especially when it is caught up with
|> police and military forces used for more than defence and protection.
|> 

Yes, like the cia in the seventies and early eighties? So what do you do, just
let them "get on with it"?

|> As for comments about my .signature, I am a Republican, a supporter of
|> both President Reagan and President Bush, and am concerned about the
|> next four years under Bill Clinton and Al Gore.  I did not support
|> sanctions against SA, I feel the American and foreign companies who
|> left will never return and the job loss and trade loss will hurt the
|> SA economy for years to come.
|> 

Personnally i have no opinion, one way or the other, on your signature file -
though it might explain some of your outlandish ideas- and I am sure the
majority of SA citizens will  appreciate your concern for their economy. Being a
bvsh-man, you should look at your man's perfomance on the american economy
first.

|> My political direction here in the United States does not preclude me
|> from engaging in these discussions, and all Republicans and all
|> Democrats should not be lumped together and be considered like-minded.
|> 
|> No matter if we agree or not here, at least we are talking, which is
|> more than what is occurring in many places.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
|> --------------------------------------------------
|> Reagan-Bush 1981-1988 + Bush-Quayle 1989-1992
|> An Era of Strong American Leadership

joyeux noel et bonne annee/merry Christmas and a happy new year.
mana