HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: HELP!! Numeric Internet Addresses...
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <1dm1crINNd16@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> by785@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robin Gibson) writes:
>
>HELP!!!  The machine at my site apparently has no conversion capability
>when it comes to accepting ALPHABETIC versus NUMERIC addresses.  In
>other words, I must enter all telnet/ftp addresses in their NUMERIC
>formats because my machine doesn't recognize alphabetic ones.  I have
>inquired of my systems people about this and have yet to receive an
>answer.
>
>Does anyone know of a source for finding the NUMERIC telnet/ftp
>addresses to various sites?  This is really getting me down...
>

Here is a little C code that will convert hostnames to their ip addresses.

-------------------------CUT HERE--------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/socket.h>
#include <netdb.h>

/*
  struct    hostent    (from <netdb.h>)
  {
   char *h_name;   official name of host
   char **h_aliases;    alias list
   int  h_addrtype;     address type
   int  h_length;  length of address
   char **h_addr_list;  list of addresses from name server
  };
*/

main(argc,argv)  int  argc;  char *argv[];
{
 struct hostent *g;
 int i;
 
 if ((g = gethostbyname(*++argv))== 0)
  printf("lookup failure\n");
 else
  {
   printf("h_name: %s\n",g->h_name);
 
   for (i = 0; g->h_aliases[i]; i++)
    printf("alias %d: %s\n",i,g->h_aliases[i]);
 
   printf("h_addrtype: %d\n",g->h_addrtype);
 
   printf("h_length: %d\n",g->h_length);
 
   /*  should probably use 'h_length' to determine how many bytes
    *  to print for each address. I assume 4, since 'h_addrtype'
    *  is always AF_INET.
    */
 
   for (i = 0; g->h_addr_list[i]; i++)
    printf("address %d: %d.%d.%d.%d \n",i,
     (unsigned char) g->h_addr_list[i][0],
     (unsigned char) g->h_addr_list[i][1],
     (unsigned char) g->h_addr_list[i][2],
     (unsigned char) g->h_addr_list[i][3]);
  }
}

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Sami.

--
| Sami M AL-Taher                |                                 | 
| Electronic Engineering Labs.   |                                 |
| University of Kent,            | E-mail: smmat@ukc.ac.uk         |
| Canterbury, Kent, UK.          | Tel: + 44 227 769303            |
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: RIME gateway wanted (Forval modem support conference)
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:23:21 GMT

bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:

>Does anyone know of a RIME<==>Internet mail gateway?

Use the IDS World Network. That's idsvax.ids.risc.net with the login 
name gust.

I don't always login there, so don't expect me to know much about it.

-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
$@EDJU>08<!wKL%F%-%5%9=#N)Bg(J
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Computer crime archive
Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:11:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

psr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Paul S Randal) writes:

>Now, the question:
>Does anyone know where there's an archive of computer crime
>related articles/papers/stories et al ??? (if one exists)

The Australian Computer Abuse Research Bureau maintains a book of case
studies of Computer Abuse.  I don't know whether or not it is available on
line.  If it was someone would probably vandalise it :-)

One thing to note though.  The number of case studies they have is far less
than the number that occur because companies are very sensitive about the
bad public relations of letting the public know that their computers have
been compromised or are in any way unsafe.

For information on computer security, you could also try the
comp.security FAQ.

Craig
--
Craig Richmond.  Computer Officer -  Dept of Economics (morning) 380 3860
  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
craig@ecel.uwa.edu.au Dvorak Keyboards RULE!  "Messes are only acceptable
if users make them.  Applications aren't allowed this freedom" I.M.VI 2-4
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: alexb@minerva1.bull.it (Alessandro Bottonelli)
Subject: Re: electronics post office (e-mail to us-mail conversion)?
Organization: Bull Italia SpA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:23:28 GMT

jim@neb (Jim Hood) writes:

>>Does the following Internet service exist?

>no!

>>I want to send email to someone who doesn't have email, doesn't even
>>have a computer.  What I want is an email-to-usmail service that I
>>envision works something like this:  I send a message (which presumably
>>contains all the necessary U.S. mail addressing information in a
>>suitable format) to some special address that routes my message to a
>>geographically-proximate Internet node where my email message and an
>>addressed envelope is printed, the letter is folded and placed in the
>>envelope, and the envelope is sealed, stamped, and delivered to the
>>U.S. Postal Service.  And somehow I get charged for the service and
>>postage.
>>
>>Whaddaya think?

>Ya, right.  Since it costs the same to mail it from anywhere in the
>U.S. to anywhere else in the U.S. (29 cents for the average env.)
>I don't see the point in having the mail go to a 
>"geographically-proximate" location.  (unless you are thinking of speed).

>Since you can FAX your message via zillions of different services
>or Fed Ex. or use one of several other "fast" carriers......
>I would have to conclude that the above idea is not cost effective, 
>practical or necessary.

Probably not in the US. Actually I have though a couple of times to start
a business like that myself, especially for overseas mail (Most
european mail services are slower and far less efficient that the US
one, I don't know about other continents). The real problem is 'privacy'
(who will guarantee that I don't 'peek' before putting the letter
in the envelope) and 'sender authentication' (most EC countries oppose
electronic mailing as 'legally binding' contracts and that would cut
out most of the money-making commercial/trade traffic).

For your information, the Italian Mail Service, being unable to speed
up the service and due to the very high cost of labour in this country
has started something similar since two years ago. The service, called
POSTEL, is specially marketed on high volume customers. They produce
electronic mail (I think X400 stuff) and that is routed to the nearest
Post Office. There it is printed on a Laser Printer, sealed in an envelope,
and locally delivered. The process is completely automatic (or so the
Post Office claims), but still it makes me nervous when I receive every
month my Salary Slip via POSTEL (and so does most people I know).



-- 
== Alex Bottonelli / Bull Italia BSP  | FAX  : +39-(0)2-6779/8463          ==
== I.S./W.S./Network Security Officer | PHONE: +39-(0)2-6779/8324          ==
== E-MAIL: A.Bottonelli@it12.bull.it  | (BullCom users dial 260+extension) ==
== BULLTX: /BULLX/IT12X/BOTTONELLI A. |                                    ==
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: merklin@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ed Kemo)
Subject: cc mail
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: alt.internet.services
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:52:17 GMT

Does anyone know how to mail people who use cc mail?
I myself dont know that much about cc mail except that it might
be part of novell...
thanks
you can reach me at merklin@gnu.ai.mit.edu
ed
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: saake@netcom.com (Mark Saake)
Subject: Internet services in Frankfurt
Organization: None
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:12:50 GMT

Does anyone out there know of anyone offering internet connectivity in
Frankfurt Germany?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: lbrahm@denver.cba.du.edu (Lans Brahmantyo)
Subject: Time server?
Organization: University of Denver
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 20:24:05 GMT


Is there such thing as a global time server on the internet?
--

...................... Brahm ....................................
                        Q. Image & Advertising
			Mama & Leon, Inc.
                        Lans_Brahmantyo@denver.cba.du.edu
                        NeXTmail Preferred
From: dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (WiseGuy)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: cc mail
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:21:00 GMT
Distribution: alt.internet.services
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Nov12.195217.5575@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, merklin@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ed Kemo) writes...
%Does anyone know how to mail people who use cc mail?
%I myself dont know that much about cc mail except that it might
%be part of novell...

IIEEEEEEEE!  Don't let Lotus hear that!

From the Internet side, any SMTP gateway should appear as a host, with
the cc:Mail userid as the username:

  ccmail_userid@ccmail_smtp_gateway.domain

in other words, there is no 'set' way to address a cc:Mail user that is
different from any other internet host.
================================================================================
Dave Weissman - Corporate WAN/LAN Networking

Allied-Signal Aerospace - BFEC    Internet#1 - dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov
One Bendix Road, Dept. 976        Internet#2 - sysdhw@bfec2.gsfc.nasa.gov
Columbia, Maryland 21045-1897     Telenet/SPRINTnet's X.400 -
(410) 964-7909                    (C:USA,A:TELEMAIL,P:GSFC,FN:DAVID,SN:WEISSMAN)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Re: Automatic FTP get?
Reply-To: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert)
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:07:40 GMT

In <BxLu3H.F1z@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:

>> I patched a version of ftp so that
>>it automatically logs in as anonymous.. 

>.netrc's are much more convenient and modifiable...

>sample:

and check whether your ftp software supports the default keyword:

default login anonymous password silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca

at the end of my .netrc file does an anonymous login unless I have a
specific entry earlier in the file.
-- 
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,ne.politics,alt.politics.elections
From: tel1568@tamaix.tamu.edu (Tom Landrum)
Subject: Re: Election finger post-mortem
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:55:08 GMT

In article <Bx7rGq.43x@world.std.com> adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin) writes:
>
[...]
> 
>All told, it looks as if at least 50,000 queries came into the World 
>and EFF machines.  My thanks to all who accessed the service!
>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wrong. My thanks FROM all who accessed the service. I had to work until
2 am Eastern yesterday, at a defense contractor's computer room that has
no TV, radio not allowed (and the room's too well shielded to pick up
anything anyway :-). My ONLY source of timely election coverage was
fingering you (hmmm, don't think I like the way that sounds...), and
calling some increasingly more irritated friends at home. Internet 
access proves its worth again. Let's hope that Gore follows up on some
of his grandiose upgrade and expansion schemes. I can see it already....
Sumatran Little League scores, Georgian bowling highlights, Costa Rican
chili cook-off results and real-time Freudian analysis of Dick Clark's
Celebrity bloopers....Utopia, here we come...


****  Tom Landrum
****  tel1568@tamsun.tamu.edu
****
****  The perversity of the universe tends toward a maximum. - Niven
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,can.general
From: jstewart@alfred.carleton.ca (John Stewart)
Subject: Re: FREE worldwide network access in Canada??
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:50:40 GMT

In <1dqfjfINNhrc@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:


>Hello all. I just got an email from someone I used to know on a local
>BBS who said that he just heard about a service that will be starting up
>in Canada called "Free Net". It's supposed to give "anyone with a
>computer and a modem" "free worldwide network access and services".... 
>by this I take it means internet access. Supposedly, the government and
>private industry is putting up 200 grands to get this going and it's
>FREE? This service is going to start off in BC, then it'll slowly be
>available across Canada... supposedly. So can anyone confirm this? Can
>anyone provide more details? Has anyone heard of this "Free Net" before?
>Sounds too good to be true??

Attempts are being made in several Canadian cities to setup Freenets based
on the model of the Freenet systems currently operating in several American
cities.  Victoria and Ottawa are likely to be the first cities that put a
Freenet into full operation.

I must emphasis that the Freenet is not intended to provide full Internet
access.  The goal is to provide a useful resource to the entire community
and so Internet access is limited to things which contribute to that goal.
Typically this would include electronic mail (to anywhere in the Internet),
Usenet news and limited telnet capability (generally only to other Freenet
systems).  Services like ftp are unlikely to be provided.
-- 
John Stewart -- Computing and Communications Services, Carleton University
Internet: jstewart@ccs.carleton.ca or Mr.Canoehead@algonquin.carleton.ca  
"The average middle income family with two parents and children pays $2,945
more in Federal taxes than they would have under the tax policies in place
before the Tories first came to power in 1984."
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: jimw@hfglobe.intel.com (Jim Williams)
Subject: email to MCI mail
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:24:51 GMT

how do I access users of MCI mail through the Internet ??

Please mail me at jim_williams@ccm.hf.intel.com
From: hsieh@Sun.COM (Richard Hsieh)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Need Info on "Nexus"
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:27:22 GMT
Reply-To: richard.hsieh@sun.com
Organization: Super Sparc Entertainment Systems (SSEC) Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gismo.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Nov4.134713.307@news.uwyo.edu>, rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
|> I have a user who is interested in finding out more information 
|> on an Internet service called "Nexus". Apparently it's supposed
|> to be something like the Wall Street Journal on-line.
|> 
|> Any pointers / info will be greatly appreciated!  
|> 
|> Richard Travsky
|> Division of Information Technology     RTRAVSKY @ CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
|> University of Wyoming                  (307) 766 - 3663 / 3668

you can get lexus/nexus services from mead data central located in dayton,
ohio. 

it is a private, commercial, and very expensive services.

-- 
richard hsieh                     |                                        
1.415.688.9079                    |    Too bad, I can only speak for myself.
hsieh@gismo.Corp.sun.com          |
--                                                                        
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: pjh@mccc.edu (P. J. Holsberg)
Subject: Volgograd Civil Engineering Institute (VCEI)
Organization: The College on the Other Side of U. S. 1
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:13:56 GMT

Is VCEI on the net?

Thanks,
Pete
From: aet@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Jack)
Subject: Internet>UK FidoNet
Keywords: FIDONET, UK, INTERNET
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:58:08 GMT

Hi - someone please help!

I want to know if it's possible to send a message through the Internet
into the UK FidoNet, without relaying through US boards.  I'm sure
it's possible, and I have the address and everything, but can't work
it out.

Are there any BBs with Internet access in the UK reading this that provide
a service similar?  I want to send to 2:258/38

Kind Regards,
Jack     ______________________________
         \                             \          ___        ______ |
          \     Jumpin' Jack Flash      \        /   \___-=0`/|0`/__|
           \    Coventry University      \_______\          / | /    )
           /    West Midlands, U.K.      /        `/-==__ _/__|/__=-|
          /   aet@cck.coventry.ac.uk    /         *             \ | |
         /_____________________________/                        (o)

         Why can't I pay my VISA bill with my American Express card?
From: davecole@cie.uoregon.edu (Dave Cole)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Mail to genie
Date: 6 Nov 1992 02:12:30 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Gregory Giagnocavo (neta@iat.holonet.net) wrote:
: Mailing to GEnie via Internet
: 
: GEnie's internet address is genie.com
: 
: 
: So a user on genie is user@genie.com
: Careful, though your friend will be charged.
: Your freind should ask the GEnie bulletin board online exactly what to
: tellothers to do, but the genie username is the prefix before the@genie.com
: Greg
: NETA, publishers of the NetPower Resource GUide 460 pages of info on BBS
: and teh Internet.
: neta@holonet.net
: 
: credit cards accepted

  Just a short addition to this note:  The GEnie user MUST be signed up first
in order to receive mail from the internet.  If the user has not signed up
with GEnie, then he/she will not receive your mail.  You will get back a 
reply from the internet indicating this.
--
Name:     David C. Cole
E-MAIL:   Internet: davecole@cie.uoregon.edu
          GEnie:    ASTRONOMY

==Astrophotography Forever==
From: br652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Okky M. Hutapea)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Simtel archives
Date: 9 Nov 1992 13:41:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Okky M. Hutapea)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler) says:

>There is a file on the simtel archives that I would like to access.  I
>have FTP capability though and have heard that there is a way to
>access these via ftp.  Could someone please tell me how to do this?
>Thank you very much,
>  Matthew Appler
>--
>Matthew Appler - University of Massachusetts, Amherst
>-----
>You can only be young once, but you can always be immature.
>-----
>You can get it through ftp 'grind.isca.uiowa.edu' without '. login as
anonymous and give your id address as password. type msdos/simtel/.....
maybe you can find the file you looking for.
hope it is help you ...
or if you have telnet access, you can telnet to 128.255.19.233
login : iscabbs, don't have to give your id as password.
Both of them are the same site

okky

Xref: sparky alt.internet.services:1490 can.general:5368 bc.general:464
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,can.general,bc.general,ubc.general
Subject: Re: FREE worldwide network access in Canada??
Date: 13 Nov 1992 23:54:55 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <1992Nov13.013646.1577@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
>Not quite - as noted in an earlier post, my site provides free bbs access to
>validated users, and, although a small fee is charged for machine-machine
>feeds, the policy is simple: no site will have its feed terminated,
>regardless of the state of the "account", so long as the B.C. Tel bills
>remain paid. In short, any site wanting a free feed can have one, although
>I'd prefer they helped out with the phone bills.
>
>Although I haven't checked the lower mainland scene for a long time, I know
>there were once serveral sites offering at least free bbs access, and
>suspect that there still are (Questor, for instance?).
>

Hhmm... I wonder... free feed? A free feed with the only charge being the
charge of the phone bill. Sounds fair enough.

But back into the subject of Free Net....

Does anyone know if Free Net is being considered in the B.C.'s main
land? I realize that Victoria is our capital, but the bulk of our
population is in the mainland. 

Thanks in advance.

Thomas.

Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: klockner@hardy.u.washington.edu (John Klockner)
Subject: Congressional Budget Data Source
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:45:02 GMT

Are there on-line sources for currently updated and/or historical
data from the Congressional Budget Office?  I am looking for as
detailed of information as possible as I am trying to construct
tables outlining the funding for various programs over time --
particularly as individual programs move through the budget process.

Any pointers to data or associated analytical tools would be
appreciated.  

John Klockner
klockner@u.washington.edu

Xref: sparky alt.internet.services:1375 ne.politics:2732 alt.politics.elections:22773 alt.religion.kibology:4517 alt.politics.kibo:249
From: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,ne.politics,alt.politics.elections,alt.religion.kibology,alt.politics.kibo
Subject: Re: Election finger post-mortem
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:26:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu

In article <FRANL.92Nov5174802@draco.centerline.com> franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio) writes:
>csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
>
>> adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin) writes:
>
>> > Bill Clinton, Dem 43,688,671 - 43 percent
>> > George Bush, GOP (i) 38,109,410 - 37 percent
>
>> These numbers can't be complete.  I know for a fact that this line should be
>> here somewhere:
>> 
>>   James "Kibo" Parry, Oth at least 1 - at least 0 percent (I voted for him)
>
>If you didn't include his current mailing address and correct full
>name along with your write-in vote, your vote was discarded by your
>local election officials.

But I did.  James "Kibo" Parry  T*****t St. Boston MA 02116

OK, maybe the zip code is wrong.  Maybe thats not even the zip I put, I don't
remember. And I didn't put a street number.  But that *should* have been
enough.  I think it's a conspiracy.

C Squared           |          No, I didn't actually write T*****t
From: tvangod@ecst.csuchico.edu (Skud the Great)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: University of California Library Directoryh
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:34:17 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: dysfunctional-relationship.ecst.csuchico.edu

Hello, im trying to access the University of California Library Directory,
does anyone out there have the address to it?


thanks in advance.

Tyler Van Gorder
Csuchico
tvangod@ecst.csuchico.edu