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From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Subject: Re:      Re: A4000 and A1200 (!!)
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 17:59:12 GMT

In article <9209130742.AA123603@eagle.TC.CORNELL.EDU> Calvin Chu <ngk@EAGLE.TC.CORNELL.EDU> writes:
>
>Also, the thing with Kickstart 3.0, what bologna!!!!! Kickstart 3.0 should
>be 2.2 for all the new features they put in!! Geez!! If anything deserved
>an integral version upgrade it was 1.x to 2.x, the purpose of Kickstart 3.0?
>What is this commodore's way of making its operating system comparable to
>Windows 3.0 or something? GEeez.

   Understand before you flame, grasshopper.
   Workbench 2.1 has several improvements over Workbench 2.04. It is the
normal upgrade you generally see from any Operating System. It does not
require a new ROM(s). Kickstart 37.xxx (Workbench 2.1) does not support the
new AGA chips.
   Workbench 3.0 is essentially Workbench 2.1 with AGA compatability full
integrated into the Operating System. Workbench 3.0 is what lets you take
full advantage of the 256,000 color modes. Workbench 3.0 will require new
ROM(s). 


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Subject:      Cheap memory

On Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:35:19, Daniel Roman <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM> writes

> ps Anyone know where I can find a cheap memory expansion for a 1000 or
> do you know if I can use a memory expansion for a 500 (only put it on
> backwards)?

Daniel, I've _heard_ that it is possible to hook up an A590 to an A1000 by
putting it on top of a book (or something) and plugging it in backwards.
If this works, then I guess a RAM expansion should work.

Another suggestion is there was a really neat hardware project on
wuarchive called 8meg.lha. It was a VERY simple circuit, which could give
you up to 8Meg of ram very cheaply. I'm going to try it out as soon as I
get time. Has anyone already had a go at it?


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Subject:      Re: A4000

>I'm tired of Commodore never releasing any information to the public, and
>also all the wild romours about A4000 and such, so here is some information
>for all of you.

I am tired of people deciding what is the best for Commodore and acting in
place of them.

I have nothing to do with dreams and mood of other people about future Amigas.
Mine are sufficient ;-)

If Commodore is ready to release information at WOC why do you not wait one
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From:         Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Window Startup

>Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:17:00 EDT
>From: Jim Loomis <LOOMIS%ITHACA.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
>Subject: Window Startup
>
>I wonder if anyone knows if or how there is a way to have the startup-sequence
>go directly into a particular drawer, rather than opening to the Workbench?
>
>Even though it seems silly to anyone who uses an Amiga regularly, I have video
>production people who either regard our machines as video prompters or paintbox
>workstations.  Unbelievably, they find it difficult to select the correct
>drawer (sub-dir) for the applications programs.
>

You mean you want workbench to come up, but with the proper drawer already
open, correct?  This way your users would not have to go through the disk>
drawer>...>application selections.  The drawers would already be open, and
all the user would have to do is click on the icon for the proper application.
Is this a more correct summary of your problem?

(The first step to the solution is properly defining the problem.)  :)

>Yes, I know how to do a script with a menu which will run various applications,
>but we want to retain the other workbench features, such as selecting file
>icons, etc.
>
>Thanks for any response,
>
>Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
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From: ecarroll@maths.tcd.ie (Eddy Carroll)
Subject: Re: A4000 and A1200 (!!)
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:02:49 GMT

uel111r2a%tferi4@UNI-LJ.AC.MAIL.YU writes:
>The Amiga 4000 is real. Not that I don't trust the guys on GEnie, but
>seeing is believing :-). The german Amiga Magazine has published photos
>of A4000. The tech data that has been posted here recently is ok.

Someone scanned the pictures and uploaded them to wuarchive.wustl.edu.
Having just looked at them, I notice a new, previously unheard of, chip
called Ramona on the 68040 daughter card. It has what _appears_ to be
an AT&T logo in the upper left corner (though this could well be just
wishful thinking on my part, particularly since the first reports from
WOC say there is no DSP included).

So, does anyone know what Ramona does? Maybe the magazine article
mentions it?

Eddy
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From:         "Matt White" <whitem@JESTER.USASK.CA>
Subject:      Re: Window Startup

Maybe I'm missing the point, but if you want to have a particular program
showing on the screen (or even a directory) on boot, just select the
program or directory and then select LEAVE OUT from the menu (I am
assuming that you have WB2.04).  Also, the program TOOLMANAGER can provide
icons for programs to put on the workbench screen as well as adding items
to the Tools menu.  I also provides a 'dock' where you can set up programs
to start with just one click.

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From:         RenderMan <GILL@IPFWCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A4000 and A1200 (!!)

> Also, the thing with Kickstart 3.0, what bologna!!!!! Kickstart 3.0 should
> be 2.2 for all the new features they put in!! Geez!! If anything deserved
> an integral version upgrade it was 1.x to 2.x, the purpose of Kickstart 3.0?
> What is this commodore's way of making its operating system comparable to
> Windows 3.0 or something? GEeez.


KS 3.0 has other features that they did not list in the press release, I can't
say what they are, but I think it DID deserve to be up'ed to 3.0.

You will be suprised!

Andrew
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Jim,

The leave out option if used, writes to the disk. So the next time you
boot up the icon is where you left it.

I don't know the Qed editor so I can't help with that.

You could also try to 'cd progdir' and 'prog' in the startup-sequence.

Yet another option is to put the application in the WBstartup, but I
don't know if the directory is set right.

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Subject:      Help with iff 2 gif

        Hello,

        I need a simple to use picture format converter to create gifs from
iffs.  I have tried the latest hamlab demo, but it does not export the gif
format, just inports it.  I also have the pbmplus utils.  They work, but can
be a hassle to use.

        If this is a FAQ, please accept my apology in advance..

        Reply either to the list, or my address (below)... thanx


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Sorry, I'm new to C...I need ANSI C.
                                                        Kevin Shafer
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cShell a Shell replacement program allows the use of the pipes you describe.
It is shareware I believe.

Brad Collins [collins_b@niehs.bitnet]
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In article <overlord.0agr@megalith.miami.fl.us>, (Carlos Amezaga) writes:

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Hi,

I would like to know if someone can tell me where can I get information about DC
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I once upon a time had a very good vi-like editor for the Amiga...I have
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Where can I find Fish 727 that has the latest release of vertex on it??

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From:         Fernando da Silveira Montenegro <silveira@INF.UFRGS.BR>
Subject:      A4000 (yawn)

Hi!
For the past two days we have kept ear-to-ear smiles about the
A4000. Now it is time to "get serious" about it. One big question:
WHAT WILL AND WHAT WON'T WORK IN THE A4000? (hardware & software)
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Subject:      Re: FastFileSystem is haunting me........!
              92 02:16:40 pm

>
> Hi all!
>
> Does anyone know how to use the FastFileSystem on KS1.3 (A500) with floppies?
>
>
> Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Mark.
>
> I have 1.3 A500, SupraRam 500RX (2Mb), and a second drive (all not mine!)
>
> I'm trying to get this working for a friend...
>
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 You can't under 1.3
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From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      Moving to the A4000

This is my own thought:
Well, I think that it's too bad if we can't use the new chips
on our 500/2000/3000. I can understand the 500/2000, but I would
have thought that the A3000 would have had the possibility. (It seemed
to me that CBM marketed the A3000 as a gateway for future developments..)
Anyway, I have a feeling that CBM will have some kind of Power-up
program for A3000 users (Hopefully A500/2000 users too! ;-)
I really want to know if 3.0 will support other display cards. So,
sure maybe I can't get the 'new' chips, but maybe I could use a
3rd party board to get similiar results via 3.0.
It seems like we have some new great technology... I'm excited
about all of the news. However, I keep thinking about the A600.
Even redesigned and with a HD, it still doesn't have graphics
on par with other machines in it's price range. It's too bad CBM
didn't release a 'AGAjr' chip set for the rest of us 500/2000/600
so that we could have at least some more color... ;-) I guess
I'll just have to wait for the so called 'A1200' which would be
more of what I could afford.. and most likely, alot of other people.. ;-)

Carlos
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>I get a TON of them per day.....and sick of em

        Don't tell me you're reading all of them?!?  (Just joking).  Seriously
though, who/what is creating these and how do we stop it?

        ->dave
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