From: tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: BACK TO LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NONAGENDA
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:01:46 GMT
Organization: "The Private site of Manfredo Tichauer"


In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug17122711@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
           (Jim Eggert) writes

>
> I do not believe that Israel is a terrorist country, and have never
> claimed that it is.  This slur was due to Jake Livni, who prefers to
> attack straw men rather than real arguments.

> Certainly the LEHI and Irgun terrorism is _not_ an example of Israeli
> terrorism, as they were not Israeli institutions (but rather Zionist
> ones).

> Israel has, however, engaged in certain practices that I would have to
> characterize as terrorism, in part against the US.  These include the
> bombing of the US information center libraries in Cairo and
> Alexandria, along with the Alexandria central post office.

> Such attacks clearly constitute terrorism.  The geographical size or
> lack of petro-dollars of Israel does not change their nature.
--
 
  Jim, you write LEHI (and Irgun) were not Israeli but rather Zionist institu-
  tions. That means that Zionist institutions  ARE  terrorist institutions and 
  as Israel IS a Zionist creation, ergo Israel must be terrorist. How naive do
  you think are the readers of this board?
  You accuse Israel of being engaged in terrorist practices. May be the Mossad,
  Shin Beth or any other israeli intelligence agency did something like that,
  and personally I would criticize it. But Jim, you must stay with your feet on
  the earth, or do you still believe in Santa Claus? Even Peter Pan grew to a
  man.
  Every democratic country has done the same and even worse than Israel, with
  the difference that no one of them was in danger to be wiped out of the world
  map (what do you think the arab countries and Iran mean by throwing the jews
  to the sea?). France was not endangerd when they layed a mine in the RAINBOW-
  WARRIOR, a ship belonging to GREANPEACE which was anchored in New Zealand,
  protesting against the french nuclear explosions done in the Mururoa atoll:
  a Portuguese photographer that worked for GREANPEACE was killed and the ship
  sunk. USA was not endangered when they organized a military coup to destitute
  Salvador Allende, the democratic elected president of Chile, causing later
  the death of thousands of civilians, and it was also not in danger when they 
  decided to overthrow Noriega in Panama, causing the death of hunderts of 
  Panamenians; and what about Dominican Republic and  Grenada?  EVERY country 
  follows ONLY  their own interests. These interests are mostly economi-
  cal ,like ITT in the case of Chile. Why do you think that USA engaged in a
  war with Irak? Do you think that it was to help Kuwait and Israel? You know,
  I know only ONE country in the world that needs heroes like Rambo, John
  Wayne, Arnold Schwarzenegger: guess which country it is. Israel has no such
  heroes, doesn't need them and doesn't want them. Every man has to do his 
  military service during THREE YEARS (women TWO YEARS) and a man has to go to
  the Army at least SIX WEEKS a year until he is 50 years old. DO you think
  they love to do it? They do it because they know they have to do it, because
  they know that nobody in the world (beside the Jews living outside Israel)
  will move a finger to help them in case of a war. USA engages in wars that
  fits its interests. What about helping croats, bosnians, kurds, shiites in
  Irak?. Do you think that the CIA is morally cleaner than all the other in-
  telligence institutions, including Mossad? If you think like that, then I
  will give you an advice: switch your TV on and look whats happening in the
  world. If you still think USA is the Utopia you made in your mind, then
  look better Walt Disney's films and forget USENET, Israel and all Zionists,
  including me.
  
 
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