From: gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Debunking the standard myth was Re: Couple of thoughts..
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:25:29 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <M1WCC00.92Aug14105944@mcfss2.fed.frb.gov> m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook) writes:
>In article <XJAM.92Aug13172345@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>
>   >>>>> "Wayne" == Wayne C. Cook <m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov> writes:
>     Wayne> Me: Say what you will about cultural and peer pressures - they're valid, just not the
>     Wayne>     biggest reason for black dominance.  Basketball requires
>		many abilities.  All of them
>     Wayne>     can be improved upon except for jumping ability, and quicknes
>		.  Blacks can jump higher
>     Wayne>     than whites. Period.  They're also quicker.  Period.  You can
>		cite examples of Majerle
>     Wayne>     and Chapman and maybe some others but they're not the norm.
>		High skying blacks are the
>     Wayne>     norm in the NBA, NCAA, and even high school.  There is

	This is so much bull.  It's not the norm.  There are far more
	blacks who aren't leapers, than there are blacks who are leapers
	in any of the three that you have mentioned.  It's not the norm.
	They often aren't in the limelight as though who are high flying.
	They aren't in the slam dunk competition and so on.

>		something genetic here.  Why can't

Yeah, genetic stupidity on the part of people like you.  You often
pass it to your kids.  It also seems to be contagious.  Other
stupid uneducated people seem to catch it.  If you are
going to tell me, "I have a degree in foo".  Just remember that
trigger could count also, but he wasn't capable of intelligent
thought.

>     Wayne>     it be swallowed and accepted?

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>Blow me with the ultimatum.  A scientific study isn't necessary to
>see the obvious.  All other factors being equal, the player who jumps
>higher and is quicker is better.

This is a rather stupid statement.  Of course if all other factors
are equal the player who jumps higher and is quicker is better.
It's like saying if A and B have $0, and I give person A $5 dollars.
Person A is richer.  Of course he is, you just made him richer, or
in your argument, better.

>I responded to posts that heatedly stated that differences in ability
>among races do not exist and that it is harmful to believe that there

Very few differenes in races exist.  What you see is often
differences in ethnic group.  Often that difference is taken to
represent every member of that racial group.  There are different
ethnic black groups just as there are different ethnic white
Asian and so on.

>is a difference.  Wake up.  Here's a theory.  Some white people in
>Indiana love basketball and have as much desire as blacks in say, DC.
>It was stated that the only reason blacks are better is because
>they have more peer pressure and more time devotion.  Take 10, 100,
>1000 guys from the two regions who would all tell you that bball
>means everything to them.  You'll find a handful of whites under
>6'5" who can dunk.  You'll find loads of blacks who can do it easily.

Bullshit.  Prove it to me.  Stop making guessing on your own racial
bigotry.  Funny, I've met more whites under 6'5" who can dunk or
are close than and desperately trying to dunk.

I'm 6'4" (and 1/4",a little 4" nurse though I could get that quarter
inch in) with long arms, can hold on to the net flat footed, but
can't dunk.  18 measly inches.  Now why was I left out of the
loads of blacks under 6'5" who can.  Oh, I know.  Because I've
played so much ball with white guys, I've caught the white mans
disease.  Tell me, is there a black mans cure/potion, maybe I
should go to Harlem.

Stop breathing the fumes from your rear
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