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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:17:11 -0400 
From: Anish Bharat Bhimani <ab4n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: firsts in (US) government
Distribution: usa

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.trivia: 8-Oct-92 firsts in (US)
government Profess'nal Agitator@sdc (1470)


>I used to know who the first US congresswoman was, but I forgot.  So,
>I figured I'd ask here and supplement the thread as well.

>First woman Cabinet appointee - Frances Perkins, 193(?) - by FDR
>First woman governor? Nellie Tayloe Ross, Wyoming
>First US Congresswoman?		
	Jeanette Rankin(?) - She was the only member of Congress to vote
against both WWI and WWII, so she goes back at least to 1916.

Also, who was the first black congressman?

I believe this was Hiram Revels, elected in 1868, but I'm not sure.


- Anish

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From: ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chris Powell)
Subject: Re: Largest cities by area
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:59:16 GMT

blum@news.ils.nwu.edu  writes:
> Re: Virginia Beach - cities in Virginia don't have counties: the two
> are completely separate (which is not to say that VB didn't annex part
> of some county or other).
> 						Dan Blum
> 						16-year VA resident

Virginia Beach annexed ALL of Princess Anne county in 1963, I
believe it was.  They have been slugging it out with
Jacksonville, on and off, for World's Largest Resort City or some
such nonsense.

Chris Powell
25-year Virginia resident, 15 in Virginia Beach
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia,rec.equestrian
From: dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas)
Subject: Last President to ride horse at White House
Organization: VTT
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:38:46 GMT

I don't know the answer to this, but thought that someone here might
know:  Who was the last President to ride a horse on the White House
grounds.  My guess is Teddy Roosevelt, but does anyone know?

Thanks,

-- 
doug foxvog     
dfo@tko.vtt.fi
From: kartik@hls.com (Kartik Chandrasekhar)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: R.A. Millikan and the Noble Prize
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:12:47 GMT

Hi,

	Can somebody confirm/correct my impression that:

	" Albert Einstien and Robert A. Millikan got the Noble prize
for the Photoelectric effect in 1923. " 

	Thanks

kartik
(kartik@hls.com)

P.S. If not too inconvenient please copy responses to me directly also
     as I dont read this newsgroup very often. (Thanks)

	
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From: kappa@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Glenn Capuano)
Subject: Re: City with lowest population density
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:18:11 GMT

> 
> Of course, intelligent guesses for a question like this is almost
> impossible as the answer is to be some obscure place you never
> heard of, but if they city definition is broad down under, what
> about that place in the middle of nowhere, Alice Springs?

	Can't speak for Alice Springs offhand, but if it's like other
Australian cities of similar size (approx. 20,000), it's either one of two
things:
1. A relatively small municipality called `City', with largish population
density. (I only know examples for sure in Victoria, but one example of
this is the "City of Mildura")
2. A large rural municipality, called `Shire' which contains the town and
a lot of country besides, and in the case of Alice Springs, this would be
a LOT of space :-).

	Not quite sure but I think things work the same in the Northern
Territory as they do in Victoria, there are a couple of other categories,
like Borough and Rural City, but there's not many of these around. In any
case, I think `City' is defined by population density so in the
governmental sense there is no way you could have a city of v. low pop.
density here (not sure of the exact density but I could look it up). Also,
unlike cities in the US, which (as I understand from the folloups here)
have one government area for a whole city, and lines called `city limits',
large cities in Australia (Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide etc.) consist of a
number of `City' local government areas (eg. about 25 municipalities make
up the Melbourne metro area), which is why the governmental definition
discussed earlier won't work for melbourne. If you're interested,
Melbourne has an average density of 1400/sq.km, and a metro area of
about 2,400sq.km. The local government area `City of Melbourne',
encompasses just the CBD and inner suburbs, and has a population of about
100,000.

Regards,
	Glenn
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From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Cities, metropolitan areas, etc. (was: Largest cities by area)
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 19:34:32 GMT

> While Toronto's structure is indeed fascinating. I don't think there's
> much that distinguishes it in terms of two-level governments. Just that
> there are so many combinations of what is essentially the same thing.

That was my point in the first part of the article.  I gave the details
about Metro Toronto because they were asked for and because I thought
the details might interest trivia people.

> In Ontario, the top level is a county or regional municipality (Metro
> Toronto being, in essence, a regional municipality in function if not in
> name), and each of these bodies encompasses two or more cities, towns,
> boroughs or townships. ... The situation in the U.S. is similar, and
> simpler. There are counties which include cities and their suburbs.  The
> county population is usually referred to as the "Metro" area of the city.
> When I think of "greater Miami" I think of Dade County. ...

In Ontario, counties have little or no power within the cities contained
in them, whereas regional municipalities and Metro Toronto do have power;
I'd say this distinction is what defines two-level municipal government.
I have no idea about the relative powers of Dade County and the city
of Miami, to say whether it constitutes a two-level government or not.
Of course, the loosely defined metropolitan areas such as the census
metropolitan areas often cross not only county but state lines, and
as I said before, can even be defined to cross national borders.

Just to point out the existence of yet another terminological variation...
each of the 5 boroughs constituting the City of New York is also a county:

	Borough		County		Land mass*

	Manhattan	New York	Manhattan Island (occupies whole island)
	Queens		Queens		Long Island
	Brooklyn	Kings		Long Island
	(the) Bronx	Bronx		North America (mainland)
	Staten Island**	Richmond	Staten Island (occupies whole island)

		 *To a first approximation, anyway.
		**Formerly formally called Richmond.

As a postal address, "New York" still means Manhattan.
-- 
Mark Brader		"...the government is simply a bunch of people
SoftQuad Inc.		 we've hired to protect ourselves from thieves and
Toronto			 murderers and rapists and other governments..."
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com				-- Bill Stewart

This article is in the public domain.
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From: kappa@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Glenn Capuano)
Subject: Re: City with lowest population density
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:20:56 GMT

BTW: Mount Isa, Queensland is the largest `City' by governmental area, in
Australia. It is, as you suggested, in an outback area...

Regards,
	Glenn
From: lightnin@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Paraaaaaaaaade of Shoooooooooes)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: The Whole Nine Yards
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:45:47
Organization: DeityCo: Major and Minor Deities Placement Agency
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In-reply-to: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:12:46 GMT

>>>>> On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:12:46 GMT, ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet) said:

ask> Does anyone have any authoritative documentation or references to
ask> back up any of these explanations?  Or any other explanations?

Well, the explanation I've always heard was that in fabric stores, cloth
comes in 'bolts' that are nine yards long, so if one was going all out, 
they'd buy "the whole nine yards."

-lightnin

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From: barryg@hplsla.hp.com (Barry Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: Again: Answers to TV Theme Song Super-Quiz
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:19:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.5680007
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

>#59.      "Matched in New Orleans, livin' on Jackson Queens"
>
>Maverick
I always thought it was "Jacks & Queens"
Xref: sparky rec.games.trivia:3321 alt.folklore.urban:25694
From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: 7-Up
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:54:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Oct14.215448.3230
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories,  Columbus, Ohio

In article <1992Oct14.155949.25120@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>Ted "at least the steak sauce got it right the first time" Frank

Most non-UNIX people make that same misteak!


(Hint:  A raise?    Start counting  with Thoreau.)
-- 
Art Kamlet  a_s_kamlet@att.com  AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus
From: hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: WEEKLY QUIZ #23
Date: 9 Oct 1992 09:13:46 -0500
Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: uakari.primate.wisc.edu


     Welcome to the weekly trivia quiz.  I post the quizzes on
Friday mornings, and the answers will be due by the following
Thursday.  There are 5 questions in each quiz; each question is
worth one point.  For each quiz,  I will post the weekly scores
(and answers, of course) as well as an accumulative score, for a
total of 25 quizzes. 
     Send your answers to hamel@primate.wisc.edu.  Please do not
POST to the list.  Thank you. 
 
 
WEEKLY QUIZ #23  (Answers due by October 15.)
 
#1)  What cartoon character has a pet cat named Sam and a pet dog
named Fuzz?
 
#2)  What is the nickname of the Akron University football team?
 
#3)  What father and daughter combination hit the top 40 in 1982
with the song "Valley Girl"?
 
#4)  What secret message proposing a Germany-Mexico alliance in
1917 was intercepted by the British and shown to Woodrow Wilson,
influencing the United States to enter World War I?
 
#5)  In the 1966 movie, "The Bible", what were the first animals
to enter Noah's Ark?
 
 
Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
From: jil@donuts0.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: Golden Oldies Lyrics Quiz #33 -- lyric correction
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:02:11 GMT
Reply-To: jil@donuts0.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ

The lyric for the the 2nd tie-breaker should be as follows:

I'm like a one-eyed cat peepin' in a seafood store
I'm like a one-eyed cat peepin' in a seafood store
#TB2)

Evidently, when I wrote "one-eyed jack", I was in my blackjack mode :-)

Thanks to Chris Arnold for bringing it to my attention.
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From: horntho@eng.auburn.edu (Thomas J. Horn)
Subject: Re: Bloom County stuff
Reply-To: horntho@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:15:52 GMT

Real People: Gene Simmons.
(GENE SIMMONS NEVER HAD A COMPUTER AS A KID).....


---Tom
From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia,rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Last President to ride horse at White House
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:59:51 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Foxvog Douglas writes:
>I don't know the answer to this, but thought that someone here might
>know:  Who was the last President to ride a horse on the White House
>grounds.  My guess is Teddy Roosevelt, but does anyone know?

Don't know about presidents, but first ladies are a bit easier:  Eleanor
Roosevelt used to ride every day, of course (didn't she make some quip
about only falling off once in a while?).  Jackie Kennedy was quite an
equestrianne, riding with one of the big Virginia hunts. I'm not sure that
she kept a horse on the WH grounds, though.

I don't think he rode on the White House  grounds, but Ronald Reagan rode
western style (of course ;-) back on his ranch (where he probably spent 
more of his time).

I'd be inclined to think there have been some since Roosevelt (that was just
past the turn of the century, after all) but I couldn't say for sure.

Bush play horseshoes (and had a "court" set up on the WH grounds for that
very purpose); does that count ;-)?

Dave
-- 
Disclaimer: These opinions are not those of Informix Software, Inc.
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From: jefff@meaddata.com (Jeff Fleck)
Subject: Re: 7-Up
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.062822.20959@news.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
|> Anyone remember the Dr. Pepper item about "10 2 4" and what it meant?
|> 
|> cjl
|> 

Yes. 10, 2 and 4 were the times during the day that one should drink Dr.
Pepper.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque)
Subject: Bloom County stuff
Reply-To: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque,,,,)
Organization: Pseudopolis Yard
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:46:52 GMT


This Peanuts trivia reminds me of trivia from my favorite strip: Bloom
County.  Instead of all the characters, this is a list of those people
or characters who made cameo appearences.  Only people who he actually
drew a recognizable image of are included here.

I was surprised that I couldn't find a picture of Nancy Reagan.  There
also were drawings of some people who I felt I should have recognized,
but couldn't.  Any additions?


1. Real people 

Woody Allen
Julie Andrews
Yuri Andropov
Jim Bakker
Tammy Fae Bakker
Berkeley Breathed
Boy George
William F. Buckley
Anne Burford (former EPA administrator)
George Bush
William Casey
Fidel Castro
Prince Charles
Joe Clark (HS principal)
Gary Coleman
Joan Collins
Bill Cosby
Princess Diane
Emily Dickenson
Michael Dukakis
Albert Einstein
Jerry Falwell
Michael J. Fox
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Lee Iacocca
Jesse Jackson
Michael Jackson
Mick Jagger
Teddy Kennedy
Don King
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Henry Kissinger
C. Everett Koop
Laurel & Hardy
Lenin (labeled as Garry Trudeau)
George Lucas
Madonna
Walter Mondale
Madalyn Murray O'Hair
Tip O'Neil
Ozzy Osborne
Sean Penn
Elvis Presley
Dan Quayle  (in Outland)
Ronald Reagan
Lionel Ritchie
Geraldo Rivera
Carl Sagan
Brook Shields
Donald Trump
Ivana Trump
Van Halen
Judge Wapner
John Wayne (labeled as Berkeley Breathed)
Prince William

2. TV animals 

Benji
Mister Ed
Spuds MacKensie

3. Comic characters 

Bullwinkle
Care Bears
Charlie Brown (face obscured by black rectangle)
Dagwood (back of head)
Hagar
Jon (from Garfield)
Mickey Mouse (face obscured by black rectangle)
Nancy
Olive Oyl
Pogo
Snoopy
Thumper

4. Other fictional characters

Pugsley Addams 
ET
Scarlet O'Hara
Packman

---
Dan Tilque    --     dant@techbook.com
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From: fahic@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (f.a.hicinbothem)
Subject: Forbin Project Computer Names???
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:58:18 GMT

Does anybody remember the names of the two computers that tried to rule
the world in "The Forbin Project"?  Which was ours and which was theirs?
Please RSVP via email .... 
ADVthanksANCE

Fred Hicinbothem	homxa!fah	attmail!hicinbothem
From: hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: WEEKLY QUIZ #24
Date: 16 Oct 1992 09:11:43 -0500
Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: uakari.primate.wisc.edu


     Welcome to the weekly trivia quiz.  I post the quizzes on
Friday mornings, and the answers will be due by the following
Thursday.  There are 5 questions in each quiz; each question is
worth one point.  For each quiz,  I will post the weekly scores
(and answers, of course) as well as an accumulative score, for a
total of 25 quizzes. 
     Send your answers to hamel@primate.wisc.edu.  Please do not
POST to the list.  Thank you. 
 
 
WEEKLY QUIZ #24  (Answers due by October 22.)
 
#1)  What model turned actress had a hot career in films of the
1970s such as "The Man Who Fell To Earth", "When You Comin' Back,
Red Ryder?" and "American Graffiti"?
 
#2)  What type of candy is mentioned in the titles of hit songs by
Millie Small in 1964 and Lesley Gore in 1965?
 
#3)  What popular rock singer's backup group was called the
Candymen after his 1961 "Candy Man"?
 
#4)  What popular candy was named after the daughter of its
inventor, Leo Hirschfield?
 
#5)  Red M&Ms disappeared in 1976 when Red Dye #2 was determined to cause
cancer in laboratory rats, even though Red Dyes #3 and #4 were used
on M&Ms.  In what year did the red M&M return?
 
 
Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
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From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Last President to ride horse at White House
Reply-To: jpenovic@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:37:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.195951.2137@informix.com>, davek@informix.com
(David Kosenko) writes:
> Foxvog Douglas writes:
> >I don't know the answer to this, but thought that someone here might
> >know:  Who was the last President to ride a horse on the White House
> >grounds.  My guess is Teddy Roosevelt, but does anyone know?
> 
> Don't know about presidents, but first ladies are a bit easier:  Eleanor
> Roosevelt used to ride every day, of course (didn't she make some quip
> about only falling off once in a while?).  Jackie Kennedy was quite an
> equestrianne, riding with one of the big Virginia hunts. I'm not sure that
> she kept a horse on the WH grounds, though.
> 

  This probably dates me, but I remember seeing a Life
  magazine photo of John Kennedy, Caroline, and her paint pony
  Macaroni in front of the White House.

  While Jackie Kennedy was first lady, some head of a country
  gave her a horse as a gift.  Not sure where she kept it
  though I do remember seeing a photo of her riding it. (I was
  a horseless horse crazy kid in Brooklyn. Any pictures,
  stories, movies, tv shows, etc. containing horses caught my
  eye.)

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From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Re: Cities, metropolitan areas, etc. (was: Largest cities by area)
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:32:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.233736.15366@sq.sq.com>
	msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:

>> > > I prefer not to discuss suburbs,
>> > > etc., since they're impossible to define consistently.
>> > And so are cities. Some places are divided into a number of
>> > small cities and boroughs like London. Others takes the whole 
>> > and a lot of wasteland around it. You call that consistent?

>This "city proper" view actually makes a certain amount of sense, because
>typically cities are designated as having legal powers in certain areas,
>and so what we are comparing is the number of people or the amount of
>territory under a single government at that level.

>On the other hand, a number of urban areas have a formal two-level
>government, where the higher-level (metropolitan) government takes some
>of the "city" powers, and the lower-level (borough) government takes
>others.  In some places the term "city" is used for the metropolitan
>government; New York is an example.  In others, and I think this is
>more common, it is the borough-level entities, or maybe just some of
>them, that use the name "city"; Toronto works this way, and so did
>London (England, U.K.) before the metropolitan government was abolished
>for political reasons in 1986.

>> Another case like this, although I don't know
>> the exact details, is Toronto.  Any Ontarions want to fill us in?

[ lotsa Toronto metropolitan structural details omitted ]

While Toronto's structure is indeed fascinating. I don't think there's
much that distinguishes it in terms of two-level governments. Just that
there are so many combinations of what is essentially the same thing.

In Ontario, the top level is a county or regional municipality (Metro
Toronto being, in essence, a regional municipality in function if not in
name), and each of these bodies encompasses two or more cities, towns,
boroughs or townships. Amongst this lower level, there are often desires
to "upgrade" from one to the other. Just as boroughs (within Metro) and
towns (elsewhere) have upgraded to cities, so have townships upgraded
to towns.

The situation in the U.S. is similar, and simpler. There are counties
which include cities and their suburbs. The county population is usually
referred to as the "Metro" area of the city. When I think of "greater
Miami" I think of Dade County. When I think of "greater Chicago" I think
of Cook County. Etcetera. Seems pretty clear cut.

<mildly related tangent>

I was told, somewhere, that the largest city in Canada (in terms of land
area under a single municipal jurisdiction) was Timmins, Ont.
-- 
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Subject: subscribe
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:29:34 GMT

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From: wms@ssd.intel.com (William Shubert)
Subject: Re: More BUGS ???
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:42:56 GMT

gt7804b@prism.gatech.EDU (Wayne Edward Sheppard) asked:
>I've got another question about the evaluations.  Is the A-mode treated
>just like the B-mode?
>
>EX:
>
>MOV <1,4
>DAT #1
>
>If it is treated the same way, shouldn't DAT #1 be moved forward 4?
>
>Or will DAT #0 be moved forward?

   The A-mode is treated just like the B-mode.  So here is what happens:

1: Read in current instruction.  Instruction = "MOV <1,4".
2: Evaluate A operand.
   - Decrement address pointed to by A operand.  "DAT #1" -> "DAT #0".
   - Read in address pointed to by this decremented register. "DAT #0".
3: Evaluate B operand.
   - No action necessary since a MOV needs no input from the B operand.
4: Perform Calculation.
   - Result = "DAT #0"
5: Write result back to memory location referenced by B operand.
   - Write "DAT #0" to address 4.

You see, when the A operand has a predecrement, the value gets decremented
before it is read in.  If the B operand had had the predecrement, the
value would have gotten decremented in step 3.  Since the value was read in
during step 2, it would have gotten written back as it was BEFORE being
decremented.

This is really pretty simple once you just write out the five steps of
MARS evaluation and figure out what happens at each step.
				-Bill (wms@ssd.intel.com)