HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:57:00 GMT

lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
: 
: Sounds like you might want to do candyflip (X+L) sometime and commune with
: nature.  I've got a tip that its the ultimate tree-hugging experience. 
: 

Candyflip is the biggest misnomer for this experience I can imagine.
Lamont, tree-hugging is perfect.  You have all heard of the fabled
"peak experience".  It is guaranteed.  One hit, 100 ug of L first.
When the escalator is most certainly taking you to the top, you know,
the scary part, but you are not quite at peak, somewhere between an
hour and a half to two hours in then 100 mg X.  The point is to reach
both peaks simultaneously.  Hang on.  For two hours you will be in
such awe that you will not wish to speak (not much like X or L huh?)
You will never see the world the same again.  It is not anxious, except
for the ride up on the L if you are so inclined as I am.  When the X
kicks in *all is well*.  A nature setting has seemed best to me.  We
call this XL and it is XLent.  You can't do this more than a few times
a year and expect the experience.  Keep it a secret. :-)

Bob

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Ephadrine
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:29:36 GMT


 Justr a little anecdote of mine:

 I've heard of ephedrine  being used as an appetite suppressant. At times
when I'm too busy to eat, I've taken ephedrine to keep what I'm doing on
my mind. I've gotten very sick a few times from this and the cause I've
now deduced is hypoglycemia that I assume is induced by the ephedrine and
compounded by not eating. It has at times, made me sick for more than a
day, and not very pleasant with terriblt headache and general ill-feeling.

St. Anthony


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         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: coke..
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:09:58 GMT

cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti) writes:

>No...I'll try to make this easier...  How much coke per day
>would someone have to use to make their nose collapse/disolve?
>A half ounce?  At a cost of *at least* $3500 a week?

   Are you really too stupid to realise that not everyone is paying street
prices for their drugs? And since you seem to be such an expert, would you
tell me the exact amount of cocaine that is needed to rot one's nose away
in daily nasal use? In milligrams, please.

>In fact, could they even do enough to have this happen without ODing?

   Cocaine has a fast metabolism. Of course they would OD, if they took all
of it *at once*.
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		  Religion is the DMT of the masses.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: diviney@milton.u.washington.edu (Pat Diviney)
Subject: Re: Ephadrine
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:51:55 GMT

Can anyone tell me the difference between natural ephedrines and
pseudoephedrine hydrochloride?  I have a box of Sudafed plus and a box
of herbal teabags containing natural ephedrines.  The Sudafeds contain
60 mg of pseudoephedrine while brewing the tea is supposed to provide
1.5 mg of natural ephedrine.  Does anyone know whether the effect would
be comparable due to the difference in efficacy of natural vs. artificial?

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: djohnsen@netcom.com (Don "nod" Johnsen)
Subject: Sodium Pentatol - availability
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:24:52 GMT

My wife and I were having a debate regarding the recently defeated measure 161
in California, the right-to-die bill. I stated that methods of suicide, 
including effective medical ones, are already available to those who wish to
look hard enough.

I suggested sodium pentatol (not sure if I'm spelling that correctly) as an 
appropriate vehicle for demise, noting that I'd seen it listed as a drug of
choice for lethal injections administered to condemmed people in some states.
She challenged me as to its availability, and suggested I try and find some.

As I'm not actually interested in commiting suicide, this is an academic
pursuit - but is it possible to purchase it, or its precursors, on the open
market? Is it tightly controlled? Can one make it at home?

Ideas regarding other appropriate methods of demise would be welcomed.

Sorry that it's not much of a recreational substance (or topic for that matter.)



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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Sodium Pentatol - availability
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:15:48 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Nov18.032452.22798@netcom.com> djohnsen@netcom.com (Don "nod" Johnsen) writes:

    [the topic is sodium pentothal]

>As I'm not actually interested in commiting suicide, this is an academic
>pursuit - but is it possible to purchase it, or its precursors, on the open
>market? Is it tightly controlled? Can one make it at home?

    Sodium pentothal is a Schedule II controlled substance, which means it
is as tightly controlled as is morphine.  Its precursors are difficult to
buy, especially for an individual, and its synthesis (if one could obtain
the precursors) is not trivial.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: RFD?:  alt.drugs.lsd
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:07:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.181219.13422@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (non-carbonated) writes:

>Considering a healthy portion of alt.drugs is now currently devoted to
>the discussion of LSD, and often times debates arise between proponents of
>so-called "consciousness-expanding" drugs likes LSD and proponents of
>"hard drugs" such as cocaine or heroin, it seems to me logical that a
>group specifically devoted to LSD would save a lot of time and a lot
>of bandwidth for a lot of people.

I tend to be skeptical of groups so narrowly focused, because I begin
to wonder, "Will we soon be seeing alt.drugs.marijuana?
alt.drugs.hash? alt.drugs.methadone? alt.drugs.banana-peels?"  After a
while it seems to me that people clamor for new groups in this vein
not because the topic dominates the general newsgroup, but because of
the perceived glamour of a topic-specific group.

Splitting alt.drugs based on classes of drugs, such as
alt.drugs.depressants, alt.drugs.stimulants, alt.drugs.hallucinogens,
and so on, might make more sense, but I doubt that they'd improve the
traffic much.  People tend to crosspost wildly if they're not sure
what they're talking about.

>If there were a seperate group for LSD, a FAQ could
>easily be created to supplement the familiar alt.drugs LSD faq
>available at sites like ftp.u.washington.edu to answer these
>questions.

If people aren't reading the alt.drugs LSD FAQ, it's doubtful that
they'd read the FAQ for alt.drugs.lsd.  There's a fundamental problem
in communication here.

-- 
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 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: faps2901@blurt.oswego.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Shroom advice needed...
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:46:52 GMT
Organization: SUNY College at Oswego, Oswego, NY



In article <billie.722049091@camelot>, billie@camelot.bradley.edu (Eliot Frick) writes:
> 
> My question is simple:  What should one expect when using shrooms?
> I have heard that there is vomiting involved.  True?
> Is there anything else one should be wary of?
> Danke.
> 
> --
>                 INTERNATIONAL COCAINE IMPORTERS INCORPORATED
> 		      LIMA --  SAN DIEGO  -- VANCOUVER
> 		        "THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE"
>                          billie@camelot.bradley.edu






    In experiences conveyed to me by a VERY close fiend you certainly shouldn't
expect vomitting though i have heard of some instancesof this.  some
suggestions include eating them on an empty stomach with something such as
peanut butter to mask the taste but nothing that might upset your stomach all
by itself.  I understand that if they are good mushrooms 1 gram is an effective
dose especially for your first time.  it may not look like a lot but this isn't
a meal you are eating.  and if you have everthing under controll you can always
eat more.  caps or stems? both get you off from what I've heard.  My close
friend ate stems only on halloween and had a great time.  enjoy!!!

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: Is WOSD being won?
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:34:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.071946.6355@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
}guido@island.COM (Guido Marx) writes:
}>Actually, I don't think the increase in the age of our population is
}>the cause of the decrease in marijuana use.  In fact, this decrease
}>in marijuana use is about the only "bright spot" in the war on drugs.
}>The government has been quite efficient in reducing the street supply
}>of marijuana, thus drastically increasing its price (around here, I
}>understand that good bud goes for $800/oz.).  Of course, people have
}>quit using pot and switched to alcohol, crack, and heroin.  Isn't
}>that terrific !!?
}
}True, but if you look at past statistics this trend started well over a
}decade ago at least...

This overlooks the fact that growers have bred for increased potency.  Most
smoking hemp is about 6 times more potent than it was during the 1960s, if
memory serves me correctly.

How to factor this in is unclear, because people like my mother no longer
smoke hemp for the very reason that it's now too strong for them.  According
to her the trouble all started when the Nixon administration had the mexican
hemp fields sprayed with Paraquat.

}  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
}                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson

Another fine quote from one of my favorite Libertarians!

Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Voltaire
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dmh@world.std.com (David M Harmon)
Subject: Re: Jell-O Killer Gets Life Term (LSD-related)
Summary: Life term for more sexist than drug-war reasons
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:40:23 GMT

Very long or life terms are typical for women killing (often
abusive) male companions or husbands.  By contrast, wife-killers
tend to get comparatively light sentences.  Hmph.

	Dave H.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:48:34 GMT

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:

> That's funny. Does the same thing to me. Always has. I could never
>understand the big deal made about it.

   Perhaps it's all just a mass delusion? It does help with relieving tension
and combatting some forms of anxiety. It also sometimes makes the surroundings
seem a little more interesting and occasionally induces funny thoughts.
However, it is neither as demonic or glorious as it is often claimed to be.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
		  Religion is the DMT of the masses.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config
From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Re: RFD?:  alt.drugs splitting (was alt.drugs.lsd)
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:41:34 GMT

In article <Bxz7G8.KKG@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.145827.8788@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>
>>I think a better split would be something like
>
>Oh, boy.  Here it comes.
>
>>alt.drugs.pharm(acology)
>>alt.drugs.use
>>alt.drugs.misc
>>alt.drugs.culture
>>alt.drugs.international
>
>How about alt.drugs.newgroup.happy.happy.happy?

 Joy! Joy!

>I think that would make *much* more sense.

:-)


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From: kg1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin Paul Goldman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Vaporizer Design
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:08:49 GMT
Organization: Senior, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Can someone repost the vaporizer design? ( Or send me a copy ) Sounds neat..

Mongo
From: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Methadone
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:07:21 GMT
Reply-To: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: antizen.ebay.sun.com

Do any of you `brains` out there no the history and philosophical intent
behind methadone? I have to give an oral lecture Monday and any background
would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!

Greg
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:34:38 -0500 
From: Seth Malcolm Redmore <sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Poppers

Hi Folks!

I was under the impression that poppers were nitrites, not
nitrates.

Am I deluded?  Have I been lied to?  Am I just too tired of trying
to stick a Rhodium in my ligand that I am hallucinating and
dreaming all of this?

--Seth
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:07:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.185036.4481@uvm.edu> fduross@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (frank duross) writes:

>Similar story here, I smoked for about a year untill my junior year of high
>and then I just quit.  I guess it just got boring.  I feel like I outgrew it
>sort of a phase. 

"Boring" is the exact opposite of the problem some people have.
Paranoia, for all its faults, is not boring!  But I can easily imagine
boredom setting in too.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: what is too much...
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 23:47:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.081512.8860@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile) writes:
>>When would you say that a person has gone too far on a PARANOIA trip...
>>	I mean if it's to be effective it should be believable, but where
>>do you set the barrier, and say that you've gone too far..????
>
>Are you talking about making someone else paranoid?
>
>Well, personally, I'd probably beat the living shit out of a friend if they
>did that to me at all...  I don't enjoy it...

I hate it too when people make me paranoid.  I wish they'd all stop.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (the bladerunner)
Subject: ULTIMATE-ULTIMATE ACID MOVIES AND MUSIC!!!
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 15:39:06 GMT


to each his/her own.

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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: St. Anthony lost his home dir on nyx...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: has any body seen it?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 04:58:42 GMT


 Password file is fixed now. So I panicked... Sue me...


St. Anthony

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          / N \   O         Laszt uns're Seelen vom Schimmel befreien!
         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH     Im Aas sielen! (correct my German!)
          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: malcolm@cltr.uq.oz.au (Malcolm Gillies)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Need info on X and Nitrate
Keywords: X and Nitrates
Date: 21 Nov 92 05:19:17 GMT
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.

In article <1992Nov20.075552.8004@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>lygariba@unix.amherst.edu (LISA YVONNE GARIBAY) writes:
>>"poppers":  I have heard that these are great to use, with no side-effects
>>or long-term effects to worry about.  They were very popular in the sort
>>of underground subculture of the 70's and early 80's (some referred to it
>>as the drug of the sexual deviants), and I know they are still in existence
>>today though under a new formula (that has not been made illegal yet).
>>If anyone can tell me where and how to procure a few pills, it would be
>>much appreciated.
>
>Got me.  I haven't heard of anything except N2O being used around here.

The chemicals in question are amyl nitrite (isoamyl nitrite), butyl nitrite
and related organic nitrites (not to be confused with isoamyl *nitrate* et
al). These were previously sold in the US unders such names as "Rush" and
"Locker Room". They are now illegal in all states, as far as I know, though
apparently Ethyl Chloride (a far nastier compound) is being sold as a
substitute in some areas.

In Australia, there are no real restrictions on their sale, so products
such as "Ram Gold", "Heavy Duty Aroma", and "Action Aroma" are on sale more
or less openly from sex-shops (rather amusingly, the bottles generally
warn: "Do not inhale contents" :-)

"Poppers", which are small glass vials containing amyl nitrite, were
previously sold as an OTC medication for angina, but this use has been more
or less superceded by drugs such as nitroglycerin. The only currently
accepted medical use for amyl nitrite which I know of is in the treatment
of cyanide inhalation.

Amyl (as it's know in Australia) is pretty much omnipresent in the club and
rave scene in Australia; it's an effective pick-me-up which seems to
intensify the sensations of other drugs, as well as have a unique effect on
hearing (sort of like surround sound). It's relatively safe, though it can
be lethal if ingested, and leaves nasty burns on your skin in you spill it.
It's also quite flammable, which can lead to nasty accidents. The most
common side-effect is headache (one of its major actions is as a
vasodilator).

To quote my pharmacology text book: "Except for an occasional instance of
methemoglobinemia associated with excessive use of nitrites, few
significant adverse effects have been reported despite extensive use of
this drug".

Malcolm
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billie@camelot.bradley.edu (Eliot Frick)
Subject: Shroom advice needed...
Organization: The Alexander Skryabin Society
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:11:31 GMT


My question is simple:  What should one expect when using shrooms?
I have heard that there is vomiting involved.  True?
Is there anything else one should be wary of?
Danke.

--
                INTERNATIONAL COCAINE IMPORTERS INCORPORATED
		      LIMA --  SAN DIEGO  -- VANCOUVER
		        "THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE"
                         billie@camelot.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Jell-O Killer Gets Life Term (LSD-related)
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:07:15 GMT

honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig) writes:

>You *can't* kill someone with lsd.

   Gee, I guess the Sandoz people just made up the LDs when they did the tests.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
		  Religion is the DMT of the masses.
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From: mstemper@ems.cdc.com (Michael Stemper)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.psychoactives,alt.sci.physics.new-theories
Subject: Re: Blurb for McKenna's "Timewave Zero"
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:37:34 GMT
Reply-To: mstemper@ems.cdc.com
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of Ceridian

In article <1992Nov14.054146.19208@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mporter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mitchell Porter) writes:
>This is some information on the software "Timewave Zero", which is
>meant to demonstrate Terence McKenna's theory of time (which was in
>turn inspired, in part, by his psychedelic experimentation).

>As related by McKenna in his talking book, True Hallucinations, the
>theory of Timewave Zero was revealed to him by an alien intelligence
>in the wake of a bizarre quasi-psychedelic experiment conducted by him
>and his brother in the Amazon jungle in Colombia in 1971.

Was McElwre with him?

>                                  If his theory is confirmed then we
>can look forward to a rough ride (but a highly interesting one) in the
>twenty-three years leading up to the climactic end- point of history
 ??????????????????
>in December, 2012.
              ????

I suppose the psychedelics explain the three year gap?

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Power Systems Consultant
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