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Organization: Sloppy, little to none
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:14:05 EDT
From: Joy Haftel <JKH107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: credit card peeve

A few weeks ago, I took my parents out for their anniversary, and for the
special occasion, I splurged and got dinner theatre tickets.  The show & dinner
were fine

But the BDIs that inhabit box offices somehow managed to charge me *twice* for
the tickets.  And they are taking their sweet time about refunding me for
their error.  grr.

Peeve:  when you are just about to get out of the car, after listening
to asssorted crap and really brain-dead commercials on the radio, the dj
puts in one of your favorite songs.  This happens when you are in a hurry,
and don't have time to sit in the car to listen to all 5 minutes of
"The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" (which has been my favorite song
since childbirth).

Peeve:  this happened to me both when I *arrived* at the library and
when I got back home.

Peeve:  I can't remember whether Janis Joplin did a cut of "Me and Bobby
McGee"  or not; all I can figure out was that just about everyone sang
it.  I even inadvertently heard Waylon Jennings doing it when flipping
through channels when a country music show was on.

Joy Haftel               "A thing of beauty is a joy for ever."
JKH107@PSUVM                        --Keats
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Human sheep
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:46:22 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1ab9ifINNa7g@agate.berkeley.edu> henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken) writes:
=>No, this isn't the product of the typical Newfie sexual union, this is the
=>product of the Volvo-and-headlight generation.  I just saw a spot on the
=>tube the theme (and slogan) of which was "It's cool to follow the rules"
=>or some such nonsense.  The most insidious thing about it is the fact that 
=>there are all these kids (5 years old or so) who are mouthing these afraid
=>of the world PTA sponsors of the commercial.  One little boy tells us that
=>it's important to do what your told.  I'm going to be ill.

Abserfuckinlootely. There's a bumper sticker in Norway that reads:
"Det aer proff at koerer mjuk" (ok, Cindy, I spelled it wrong, sorry)
which roughly translated means "It's cool to drive calmly". Bollocks.

I'm no Holmesesque libertarian, but I've had it with campaigns to stop
stupid people from doing stupid things. A prime example is all the
consumer affairs TV shows. "We dropped this large book from fifty feet
onto someone's head and laid the sucker out cold. This shows that there
should be government regulation of the number of pages in books, in order
to prevent this kind of tragic accident. Horseshit, I say, horseshit.


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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Rewriting History
Organization: peevish, at best
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:09:48 GMT

In article <19u66mINNhe5@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> carolo@cse.ucsc.edu
(Carol Osterbrock) writes:

>"The copies of _Fahrenheit 451_ passed out in Irvine (CA)'s Venado
>Middle School had scores of words blacked out -- words like 'hell'
>and 'damn'.  The teacher felt such words didn't belong in the book
>and weren't essential to the story."

Worse yet, the paperback publisher of Fahrenheit 451 progressively
censored the book over a number of printings, in order to make it more
acceptable to high schools.  This ended rather rapidly when somebody
informed Bradbury (the author, for you illiterates out there) that it
was happening.

Anti-Peeve: Asbestos-bound copies of Fahrenheit 451.

Peeve: I don't have one.

++++++++++++++++++++Seth        sethb@fid.morgan.com++++++++++++++++++++++
Figure skating? Yeah, very useful that. Being able to spin around in tiny
circles with a woman sitting on your head while wearing purple lame flares
to Ravel's "Bolero" isn't exactly a state-of-the-art survival skill unless
you're into extremely kinky sex. -- Not Al Crawford
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.politics.correct,talk.religion.misc
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor (Was stuff about Mac D's)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:16:06 GMT

In <1asgoaINNfkl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:

>I couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't care less what Joan Jett has to
>say about abortion, what the Go-Go's have to say about fur, or what John
>Cusack has to say about George Bush. 

These things happened?  I hadn't heard.

On a different note, a few years back I was hanging out in LA at a place
on Sunset called The Central.  Cool place back then, but I haven't been
back since.  Anyway, as I became dulled and dazed by the blaring music
and alcohol, I noticed some cripple (guy in a full leg cast, with
crutches) heading my way.  This guy hobbles up to my table (one of those
teeny-tiny, round and tall bar tables you see a lot in bars, where else?)
with some stoned-looking chick and he asks if I mind if he and his babe
sit with me.  I said it'd be just fine.  So far, so good.

Well, my buddy had been up dancing with some dogface metal-head bimbo
and he came back looking for a place to sit.  No problem, he just dragged
another chair over.  So, my buddy tells me that our companion at the table
is some guy named John Cusack.  "Who the hell is John Cusack?" I ask in a
drunken shout.  Ol' John, not missing a beat, turns around and says, "Hey,
that's me!  Why?"  Came to find out later that he was a bit actor.

About that time my buddy and I decided to go up the street to the Rainbow.
I, in spite of my stumbling drunkeness, stumbled up to the Rainbow and was
waved past the line of prospective patrons outside immediately through to
the front.  Why, I do not know.  Once inside the Rainbow my memories
become a blur.  All I know is that I woke up the next morning in the
company of a strange, but quite attractive woman.  She was as hung-over as
I was, so we each showered and went our own way.  Apparently, according
to my buddy, we (the strange, attractive woman and I, NOT my buddy and
I) had gotten to heavy petting at the Rainbow before we disappeared.

That was the last that I ever saw of that strange, attractive woman.  It
is just as well since it was obviously just a wild fling for both of us
and I was only visiting from out-of-town.

Peeve:  When something quite pleasant apparently happens, but the memories
        of it are a drunken blur.
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"Yes, he really said that!"
From: logan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Rewriting History
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:12:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep24.085705.7038@iscsvax.uni.edu> hosch2263@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>        Related Peeve: Jackassses trying to ban books on the basis of offensive
>language or questionable family values.  Who are these people to decide?  Don't
>they think their children will be exposed to this when they get out in the
>world?  Or are they going to create a Utopia for their ideals?

Well, that *was* essentially the main reason for colonizing most of North
America.  You've heard of the Puritans, right?  (The other reason was,
of course, greed.)

Adios,
  Logan
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From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: credit card peeve
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 19:36:37 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes: 
| In article <1992Oct2.025041.457@mel.dit.csiro.au> jen187@mis.csiro.au 
| (Graham Jenkins +61 6 276 6812) writes:
| In article <92273.181405JKH107@psuvm.psu.edu> Joy Haftel <JKH107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
| 
| >>Peeve:  I can't remember whether Janis Joplin did a cut of "Me and Bobby
| >>McGee"  or not; 
| 
| >Yes she did, but I can't remember the name of the album. If you're
| >interested, let me know and I'll look it up, I have it at home.
| >I happens to be the best version IMHO.
| 
| The name of the album is "Pearl," and it contrary to what somebody else
| wrote earlier, it came out in 1970, not 1971.

And it's a classic.  Few people could put more heart and soul into a song
than Janis could. She was ugly. She had a nasty voice. I could listen to
her for hours because she put everything she had into every song she did.

"Pearl" also contains the old standard "Mercedes Benz".

Peeve: Janis is dead.  So is Jimi.  What a waste.

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Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.tasteless
From: potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC))
Subject: Re: Woe is Me
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:46:53 GMT

In article <Tqc7RB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> johnw@bluemoon.rn.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.) writes:
>     Guy walks down an aisle, blows this greasy vomit, consisting of 
>greasy slime and cube-shaped chunks of meat, approx 1.5 Cubic cm.
>     He does not stop while doing this, but walks on, spewing forth for 
>approximately 30 feet.

peeve: crossposts from alt.tasteless. criminy.
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From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: My proofreading skills ( Was Re: Booter Visits the Interzone
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:26:08 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <17732@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>
>!Peeve: It was so colorful, that it became humorous. 100 cabs all parked
>with earnest me asking, "Taxi?" "Uh, no thanks, I just ate."


Damn. I meant "earnest men" asking. I did not need a cab, they needed
passengers. Sheesh.

ER
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From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Subject: Re: *Virtual* Reality
Originator: yarvin@cathy.CS.Yale.Edu
Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:05:12 GMT

henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken) writes:
>>The way to "understand" quantum mechanics is to learn how the math works,
>>not to indulge in intellectual masturbation.  And spare me the crap about
>>"there's more to it than the math."  The only _hard_ part is the math.
>
>The only hard part is the math.  Heh, again.  The math is well understood,
>by philosophers and physicist both.

What I mean by "hard" is that it is a subject that, in the best of
circumstances, takes several years to learn properly.  Of course one can
learn it well enough to lie about it in a month.

> Frege was a philosopher and at the same time
>developed first order predicate calculus and FOPC was useful

Finally you have given me an actual example.  Let me point out first that it
is your choice of example, and that you had the whole of philosophy to
choose from.

And your example is extremely weak at best.  Frege merely gave names and
symbols to certain types of statements which were already extremely well
known in mathematics.  Now, notation can be quite useful.  But in this case
mathematicians had been using these statements for hundreds of years,
without needing notation for them.  I have used this notation.  There is
very little manipulation that you can do with it; its symbols are basically
just abbreviations.  So perhaps these abbreviations were invented by
philosophers.  (I happen to doubt it.  They certainly weren't invented by
Frege, who used a monstrous and unwieldy system of notation.)  Making
abbreviations is a trivial achievement.

One example down.  NEXT!

>I'm a philosopher-in-training (i.e., a graduate student in philosophy). I
>am a logician, my work is in logic.  The people who invented and developed
>logic were philosophers and they do the bulk of boundary pushing in that
>field today.  How much more centrally philosophical can it get, dork?

If you claim that philosophers invented Boolean logic, which is so useful in
building computers, you are quite incorrect.  Boole was a mathematician to
the core.

The rest of what you call "logic" is either bullshit or is trivial.  Fine,
philosophers invented it.  Let them keep it.


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 "Do you know what an unrecognized genius is?  It is an idiot who thinks
  highly of himself." -- Vladimir Rokhlin
From: logan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: on men
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:23:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <BuzLMy.Kyw@nic.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>Guys are also more likely to die at birth, in infancy, during childhood, etc.
>So you're liable to miss the whole party, baby.
>
>Of course, more boy babies are conceived and born than girls.  So if the
>trauma of birth is your standard for living a good life, you've got us
>beat.
>
>Living a full long life and loving ever minute of it,


Top 10 Ways guys' lives are easier than girls' lives:

	10. Dress clothes are more comfortable (no makeup, no high heels).
	9.  Clothes are cheaper.
	8.  No PMS.
	7.  No childbirth.
	6.  Typically greater interest in geeky things like computers
		tends to raise our average income dramatically.
	5.  Taller - can reach things on high shelves more easily.
	4.  Men's public restrooms less crowded.
	3.  Most of our names don't end in '-ie' or '-y'.  (e.g. 'Amy', 'Cindy',
		'Candi', 'Julie', 'Jenny', 'Mary', 'Wendy').
	2.  English personal pronouns conveniently refer to males.

And the number one reason guy's lives are easier than girls' lives is...

	
	We're in charge of *everything* (at least that's what the feminists
		tell us).



Adios,
  Logan
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From: sec@otter.hpl.hp.com (Simon Crouch)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Satanic Death Toddlers From Hell
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:23:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.

In alt.peeves, The_Tea_Which_Will_Drink_You@ed.ac.uk (The Official Hot Drink) writes:


> I was cleaning my desk, when ...

Good grief! Whatever came over you?!
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Rewriting History
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:17:46 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide writes:
>Peeve: Religious Fanatics. 

Peeve:  Fanatics in general.  Specifically, people who feel able, nay,
obligated to run my life for me...who feel more than obligated to tell
me what I can safely own or how to life safely.  From George's insane
War on Drugs to Sarah Brady's War on Guns, from Floyd/Wilson's decision
that I need them to tell me to wear a motorcycle helmet, to my dear
ex-representatives back in NY who feel they have to mandate when car
lights must be turned on.  

Bah, they'll all be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

MegaPeeve:  People who fuck up and cause problems, giving the safety
fanatics an opening to exploit by making more idiotic laws.

ObInsaneLaw:  Supposedly, some state back East has banned flashlights
taking more than 3 batteries because they can be used as weapons.

ObWeapon:  12 gauge loaded with Dragon's Breath.

   don
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From: potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC))
Subject: falling behind
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:42:04 GMT

peeve: i seem to have missed something. geoff makes reference to a nasty
	crack about me by banta and banta himself sends mail to apologize
	and yet i can't remember seeing the original post. hmmm... 

peeve: not knowing how to spell...

-l "alzheimers" p

pspeeve: that if i've gotten it wrong, someone, perhaps russ "i live for
	these things" kepler will correct me.



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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Commercials-on-the-brain
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:08:58 +1000
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <1992Oct2.061125.18964@cs.umb.edu>, mzraly@ra.cs.umb.edu (Your Pedal Extremities Are Colossal) writes:

> It's as if (fed)UpWithPeople were performing in my brain, with all this

Are you talking about the group of schoolkids touring around the
world performing?

If so they were here in Canberra a couple of years ago and
performed at the Canberra Festival Finale Concert.

MegaPeeve: Overt sponsorship messages.
The concert mentioned above was sponsored by "Medibank Private",
a health fund.  Every place you looked was a sign or poster
saying "Sponsored by Medibank Private" including a huge sign
across the front of the stage, and as a final insult the last
"song" in the concert was the "Medibank Private" jingle.

One of the kids in UpWithPeople asked me who wrote the "I feel
better" song they had to sing and so I took great delight in
telling him it was just a jingle.

It's been getting worse lately.  Now we have "sponsored news
breaks" 
<FX male voice of someone with 6ft diameter balls and 44 gallons
of testosterone> 
"This news PROUDLY brought to you by National Mutual.  Insurance
you can trust."
<insert pissy and parochial roundup of daily news>
"This newsbreak was PROUDLY brought to you by National Mutual."

"Tonight's movie is PROUDLY brought to you by the following local
businesses;"
<reel off list of local businesses which usually includes the
Venus Adult shop (a local porn shop), at least 5 engine
specialists (all now proudly members of the Engine Rebuilder's
Association (*)), a local fruit market chain (with somewhat
"shady" associations), etc.>
"All PROUDLY supporting the Canberra Region!"

"Tonight's neighbourhood watch program is PROUDLY brought to you
by Lockwood, maker of fine locks."

and so it goes on.

Another new tactic locally is the top and tail commercial.
This is where at the start of the TV ad break they play the 30
second version of commercial "X", play a few more commercials and
then end the ad break with the 15 second version of commercial
"X".

(*) RelatedPeeve:  Every business is now a member of some
"Industry Association".  We have the Housing Industry
Association, The Engine Rebuilder's Association, the Wrecking
Industry Association, etc.  This is flaunted as proof of how good
the company is!  Walk into a local business and the wallpaper is
usually membership certificates for a dozen associations you've
never heard of who all promise that membership means the company
is as solid as BHP (giant Aus. mining corp.) and is simply
incapable of shafting you.  This is obviously bullshit when you
realise the number of car mechanics that belong to associations.


Carl.
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From: banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Boss Peeve
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:00:09 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: blagg

(Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>For Chist's sake, Banta, surely you are intelligent & imaginative to
>find domething else to pick on me about.  

Go suck an ice cube.  I picked on you because you're guilty of doing
something I find quite peevesome: using "service" when you mean
"serve."  This certainly wasn't the first time I used some trite
vehicle of delivery in an effort to make slightly more interesting
reading.

>*I* am sick of this thread.
>You said sometime back that *you* were sick of this thread.  

I don't remember bringing up this thread before.  The point wasn't a
general attack on your overall wholesomeness.  The point is you
misused the word.

(Dare I say it?)

Sheesh.

andy
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From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: *Virtual* Reality
Date: 28 Sep 1992 17:24:00 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
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In article <Bv9DKq.DK2@nic.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>
>Incidentally, Newton considered himself a philosopher as well as a scientist.
>He studied philosophy before he ever go interested in math, reading all
>of Platos dialogs before the age of 11.

He was also an alchemist, who spent the last half of his life in pursuit
of the "philosopher's stone," and eventually poisoned himself on mercury.

In addition, he was a vicious cad who got his rocks off on ruining others'
careers and taking credit for their discoveries.

Peeve: people who conflate creation with creator, and idolize both.

c
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: *Virtual* Reality
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:42:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.200720.20823@cs.yale.edu> yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) writes:
>jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:

>>As I said, Newton developed the calculus in response to Leibniz' attacks
>>on Newton's world view.
>
>You do realize, I hope, that what you have just said could be used as a
>description of just about any conversation?  And that therefore it says
>almost nothing?
>

You know, you're right.  Just the other day I was having a conversation
about my favorite Rhythm and Blues singers, and someone came up and said
"Hey, what you guys talking about?"  I didn't realize it, but the perfect
description of our conversation would have been: "Newton developed the
calculus in response to Leibniz' attacks on Newton's world view."

CoherencePeeve:  If I had given that response, people would have looked
at me funny.  Some people just got no sense non sequitur.

BonusPeeve:  People who try to relate what I've just said to the previous
conversation when I've gone out of my way to make a large leap in order
to get off an extremely boring topic.




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