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From: tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tammy Jo Eckhart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Help!  Earring won't go through!
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:46:06 GMT
Organization: Columbia University

I need immediate help with a very strange problem.  I have had my ears
pierced for ten years.  I cannot wear the earrings two days in a row
because they tend to get infected even though I sterilize them before
and after use.  Now my one ear will not let the earring through.  My
husband can see it right under the skin but even though he pushes very
hard, the ear just bleeds and the post will not go through.  The other
ear is fine, the earring goes through easily.  Anyway, it hurts alot
and I'm afraid that it might mean something is very wrong with the one
ear.  If you have any ideas or have had similiar experiences please
write directly to me.  Thank you very much.

Tammy Jo
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed)
Subject: Re: Akbar & Jeff's Piercing Hut
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart
Summary: Trendies
Organization: Gainfully unemployed
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:58:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.041249.28672@selway.umt.edu> ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata) writes:
>HEY KIDS! YOU'VE TRIED THE REST-- NOW TRY RITUALISTIC BODY
>MUTILATION!!
>
>	From last week's "Life in Hell," penned by that traitor to
>mankind and creator of "The Simpsons," Matt Groening.  If you haven't
>already read it, check it out. Matt manages to nail it right on the
>head while pretty mercilessly mocking bodyart fans at the same time.
...
>	I didn't know whether to be amused or offended, to tell the
>truth. Of course, the fact that my dad sent me the article probably
>didn't help at all ;-)

I thought it was hilarious.

Of course, being in Montana, you have to realize that Matt G.'s penning
"Life in Hell" from down here in good ol' Hell Lay, where piercing
one's self in every conceivable place (as well as tattooing) has become
The Biggest Fad/Trend to hit these parts (along with wearing Doc Martens,
of course ... ) since, well, since Harley Davidsons & Urban Bikers.

In the circles I travel in (when I can actually get myself out of the house :-)
the vast majority of the people I see have at least one tattoo and one
piercing; and usually it's multiple (of both types).  Revolt into Style,
indeed.  (Tongues - ouch! - and lower lips seem to be the leading edge of the
piercing trend these days, for those of you playing along at home ... )

I liked the Good Ol Daze when I could admire Jeff Dauber's impressive back
tattoos and be jealous of the fact that he had more earrings than me (-: ;
nowadays it seems like everyone and his mother here in L.A. is a walking
Gauntlet advertisement.  I'm not so sure this is a Good Thing anymore ...

	- Greg
	  *UWA

(*UWA - Unemployed With Attitude :-)

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: hannibal@iastate.edu (Morgan Toal)
Subject: Jewelry in Des Moines?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:16:36 GMT

We've decided to make an impromptu trip to Des Moines, can anyone recommend
a place with a selection of jewelry for sale suitable for my girlfriends
nostril pierce? E-mail to my account is fine.

Thanks a lot.

							Hannibal@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: PA jewelry preferences?
Organization: UCCSNCS
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:37:53 GMT

johnf@cislabs.pitt.edu (Jack Faley) writes:
>  I have a captive bead in my PA and I prefer a very large bead.  It keeps
>it from sliding into the urethra accidently and I think just generally
>gives more to the piercing.

I used to worry about the beads getting in my urethra but when it
finally happened, I found it rather enjoyable.

>A few of you have been talking about taking out your jewelry for sex.
>How easy is it to get back in?

Very easy.  I swapped rings one week after I got my PA and I had no
trouble at all.  I don't recommend doing it that soon, though.

>I've had mine for about 8 months now, if I remove my ring will I need
>a blunt needle to put it back in?

You shouldn't need anything but your ring and a little saliva (lubricant).

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p

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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: Tired of seeing the same tat!
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:23:45 GMT

I have a dolphin tat on my left shoulder blade that I got 4 years ago.
It signified a change in my life (break-up and subsequent freedom from
a loving but unhappy 6-year relationship), which symbolized my love of
the ocean, the freedom to be able to swim where I pleased, and to
be in harmony with the ocean as a diver.

Granted, I work in an oceanarium and I also live in Hawaii. But it's
getting pretty ridiculous--I personally know of six (count 'em--SIX)
women who have dolphin tats! Of course they're all smaller than a 3
inch square (like mine), and they're either on shoulder blades or on
the pelvic bone. It was a pretty personal decision to get inked at the
time, and I put it on my shoulder blade because I chose not to show it
when I wore regular clothes.

However I am tired of hearing "Oh, I've got one too!" I am very, very
seriously considering getting inked over the area with something to
cover it up. Jilara has some nice owl work--I'm seriously considering
getting a very realistic wildlife tat of some sort (I was thinking
about it anyway, but now I want it to cover the stupid dolphin thing).

What do you guys think? I hate being part of a crowd, but it looks
like this dolphin is the cherry and rose of the 90s. Opinions?
Suggestions? Any suggestions for a wildlife species? (I also want to
get a gecko or salamander wrapping my wrist or ankle--but I'll save
that for later).

Aloha-- 
--
A. Lani Teshima (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu)       o | /_/_/ "Sea Hare"
Student, UH School of Library & Information Studies     o|<0_0>--------*
A small mind is easily filled with faith.                 \=^-| |____| | 
Blessed is a mind too small for doubt.                        \_}B   \_}B
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: See ya!
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:19:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> My company has decided, in the light of complaints from some
-> employees about offensve posts in some groups, to limit all news to
-> work-related only (whatever that is defined as).

 The Thought Police strike again...
              
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:37:29 GMT

I agree.  You should wait a while longer.  It must be awfully irritating to be
one of a bunch.  What does IMHO mean?
-- 
BCorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
The stylin' chick with an attitude. I'm studying video/LBGS/Women's stu.
"Honey there's plastic in the bed." - Heather
"I just might die with a smile on my face afterall." - Morrissey
"I've got more than one membership to more than one club." - Ani Difrancoz
From: dheisler@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Dave Heisler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Neophyte / lurker question.
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:10:03 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

I have seen with fair frequency, small roses, or
butterflies, on ladies.

Is there any special siginificance to this type of
tattoo? Or is it a "generic" and "safe" kind of 
design?

thanks
dave
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart,alt.pagan,rec.boats,talk.politics.misc
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: See ya!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:25:57 GMT

dfpedro@uswnvg.uswnvg.com (Donn Pedro) writes:
: My company has decided, in the light of complaints from some
: employees about offensve posts in some groups, to limit all news 
: to work-related only (whatever that is defined as).  This means 
: I will no longer be particiating in these groups.

Too bad they are not enlightened enough to just suggest that the
complainers simply do not read the offensive groups.

Bill
From: troyer@cgl.ucsf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: PA == bleed like a pig
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:59:20 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
Originator: troyer@celeste.mmwb.ucsf.edu

How come I've been reading this group since it has started, read all sorts
of stuff like PFIQ's, etc., and somehow never realized that

When you get a Prince Albert, you bleed like a pig for a day.

I mean, I realized the penis is ... extremely vascular (quote from 1st
year med student: "Yeah, we're still squeezing blood out of our cadaver's
dick"), but man, the next morning my bathroom looked like I'd just killed 
somebody.

Since bleeding all over the bathroom at work is considered somewhat 
antisocial these days, I decided to stay home.

I called Gauntlet, and they reassured me with "Oh yeah, you can get
copious bleeding for 2-4 days." Gee, thanks. Of course it stopped right 
after that. Now I'm a happy man.

(if pierced in the 90's == poseur, I guess I'd better go sign up for my
Celtic armband tatoo right away!)

john, slave to fashion
troyer@cgl.ucsf.edu
From: thebo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael Thebo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: nosepiercing in Indiana
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:18:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Does anyone here know of places in Indiana, preferably near Lafayette, that do
nose-piercing.  I've called around and the only place I could find was in Chicago which is quite a haul.  Thanx in advance.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Pubic hair bleaching
From: JMEYERS@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Jim)
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:24:29 -0600
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart
Distribution: world

In article <22835@galaxy.ucr.edu>, mmaloney@watnxt06.ucr.edu (Michael
Maloney) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I'm interesting in dying my pubic hair....any recommendations on what I should
> use to bleach it???
> 
> 				Thanks,
> 
> 					manly

Try using a commercial hair-bleaching agent such as Clairol Ultra-Blue.  A
couple of applications should remove most of the natural pigment and leave
your hair a pale straw-yellow.  From there, you can use a variety of blonde
hair coloring applications, including silver shades.  Just be careful about
contact with sensitive tissue.
From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Hickeys Illegal In Britain?
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:46:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.kbennett.718922815
Organization: University of Washington

I was reading an article in the music magazine Option, which
concerned body modification and discussed the trouble that
the British authorities have been giving Genesis P-Orridge
and family for their involvmenet therein.  The article
mentioned in passing that hickeys are illegal in Britain.
I assume they're not joking but this is such a ridiculous
law that I have to find out more about it, its history, and
if it is ever actually enforced -- are high school kids running
around in fear of being thrown into jail for the same reason
as body piercers or -- gasp -- sodomites?!?  :)

Just curious,

Lena
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: RE:RE:Tired of seeing the same...
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:39:34 GMT

That's a really great alternative to getting the "dolphin thing" inked over. 
I'd go with that plan.-- 
BCorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
The stylin' chick with an attitude. I'm studying video/LBGS/Women's stu.
"Honey there's plastic in the bed." - Heather
"I just might die with a smile on my face afterall." - Morrissey
"I've got more than one membership to more than one club." - Ani Difrancoz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: Academic tattoos
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:44:25 GMT

In article <3924@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>
>Oh, great.  How long til people start getting Noam Chomsky back pieces?

hmmm, Escher might be nice. the mobius ants as an arm band? hmmmm. or the
flying ducks turning into geese? HMMMMMMMM.

--
Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute
     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
            vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: where to get tattoo?
From: JMEYERS@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Jim)
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:08:20 -0600
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart
Distribution: world

In article <3923@unisql.UUCP>, ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) wrote:

> 
> The best way is via recommendation, and I can't help you with
> that.  You want to find someone who's good at the kind of work
> you want done.  Visit the studio and take a look at photographs
> of work he's done before; he should have a photo album, or photos on the
> wall (if he doesn't, then avoid him).  Check his sanitary practices;
> does he sterilize all equipment?


Ray, 

Not to be too picky, but all those "he's" in your response suggest that all
tattoo artists are male.  Many excellent female artists work in different
artistic styles that are alternatives to the many fine male artists.

Jim
From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: incarceration
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:10:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: martiniq.MARY.92Oct15161015
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu's message of 15 Oct 92 19:20:35 GMT


In article <1992Oct15.152035.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

   This is gross.  Can't people find better things to do with thier brains.-- 
   BCorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
   The stylin' chick with an attitude. I'm studying video/LBGS/Women's stu.
   "Honey there's plastic in the bed." - Heather
   "I just might die with a smile on my face afterall." - Morrissey
   "I've got more than one membership to more than one club." - Ani Difrancoz

So speaks she of the one line post, devoid of content or reference, and 
the five-line sig.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Mary Malmros     | Cayman Systems Inc, 26 Landsdowne St, Cambridge, MA 02139
 mary@cayman.com  | Phone 617-494-1999  Fax 617-494-5167  AppleLink CAYMAN.TECH
From: rice@scws7.harvard.edu (Ken Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Prince Albert problems
Keywords: Prince Albert problems healing infections
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:29:10 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct13.160147.9627@Princeton.EDU> clements@burst.Princeton.EDU (John Brinckerhoff Clements) writes:
>In article <Bw0qH9.7Bu@umassd.edu> lambda@cis.umassd.edu (David G. Beals) writes:
>>Hi there,
>>
>>     About six weeks ago I had a Prince Albert piercing done at Innovations in
>>Leather up in Boston. I had a 12-gauge stainless steel circular barbell put
>>into the pierce since I thought it would be the best idea healing-wise. Un-
>>fortunately, my P.A. is being rather stubborn about healing up.
>>
>
>  Obviously, you know your body better than anyone else (particularly
>me), but it seems to me that in this case you might be best off letting
>your body do its stuff.  A few tips: this was all hashed/rehashed ad
>inf. a few months ago, but neosporin (and _any_ thick cream) probably
>doesn't help the healing process as it blocks the air supply (All Out of
>Love... just kidding).  Furthermore, it sounds to me as though what
>you're describing is not an infection, per se, but simply an irritation
>(keloid? anybody?).  I used Hydrocortisone with great success on a
>guiche that had formed little bumpy rings, but once again, I'm no
>doctor.  Listen to your body.
>
>john clements
>21, don't touch me there

We have it from Dave that this piercing was infected two weeks ago,
that an antibiotic was prescribed, and that the infection subsequently
subsided.  The antibiotic was stopped, and now the piercing is becoming
inflamed again.  We don't know for sure, but it's certainly possible 
that the piercing is becoming infected again.  If the piercing is 
becoming infected, and if hydrocortisone is used, it will suppress 
inflammation without stopping the infection, and the infection will be 
free to spread (perhaps asymptomatically) to the surrounding tissues.  

Corticosteroids inhibit cicatrization, which is a late manifestation 
of inflammation.   This can be a good thing, as it can prevent
the formation of little bumpy rings, as John Clements notes.  

But they also inhibit *early* manifestations of inflammation such 
as phagocytosis and migration of leukocytes into the inflamed area,
and these are critical responses in fighting an infection.  
Suppressing them in the presence of an infection has a bad effect.

I'm not an MD either.  Just my opinion.

Ken

-- 
----
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  bitnet: rice@husc.bitnet
From: metzlers@spot.Colorado.EDU (METZLER SANDRA TAIMI)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Another Cutting Question
Summary: reaching the outside of my ankle
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:51:43 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

After a break of a couple weeks, I'm back reading rab.  I loved the
discussion on cutting, and have started trying things out, but found
I have a question: is there an easy (or easier) way to reach the
outer ankle?  It seems a bit convoluted for me to do it myself, but
I don't really have much choice (most of the people I know think I'm
a bit odd for having 8 ear piercings and a tattoo--and can't understand
why I'd want other piercings or more tattoos.  *sigh*)(actually, this
is my main reason for being interested in cuttings--i'd REALLY like
another tattoo, but i have a compromise with my husband: i will neither
get any more nor take any off. fair deal.).

whoops, that got a bit parenthetical.  still, any advice you guys have
for someone attempting temporary tat's is much appreciated.

thks

taimi

=========================================================================
How do you know but ev'ry Bird that cuts the airy way
Is an immense delight, closed by your senses five?

---- Wm Blake
======================
===
metzlers@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: c164-cs@po.berkeley.edu (Alexander Pakter)
Subject: Re: temporary piercing question
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:30:58 GMT

In article <1bi8n4INN8tn@cs.utexas.edu> russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams) writes:
>Hi folks,
>I'm looking for advice and thoughts on temporary piercings.  If you
>pierce an ear lobe or nipple and wear a ring for about 12 hours, are
>there likely to be any infections to worry about (assuming everything's
>been sterilized first)?  I'm mulling this over for Halloween, but don't
>want to end up crusty and oozy (even though that might be appropriate
>for Halloween :-).  The actual process of piercing is no problem, I've
>done it before, just never left it in for long.

I have left temporary piercings in for several days (just didn't pull the
needle out!), and had no problems at all.  No crusties, no pain, no redness.
However, these were very small (23 Ga) needles, so if you put in
thick jewelry, you might have a different experience.

Alex
----
From: fredj@wang.com (Fast Freddie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: The first tattoo
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:16:04 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea) writes:

>jbeason@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Joseph E. Beason) writes:

>> What happens to hair growth in the area of the tattoo?  Are the follicles
>> destroyed?  Any guidelines for shaving the intended site?  Do you have to sha
>> the tattoo???

>Looking at a 10-year-old tat on my arm, the skin that it's on is as
>hairy as the area surrounding it, including the heavily shaded areas.
>Guess they manage to sirvive the process.

>Now that I think of it, there's a woman I saw out in LA who had her
>entire scalp tatooed. with a very interesting geometric design. Had a
>short, but healthy and full, head of hair.

I got a tattoo on my forearm mid june and by august the hair came back in.


fast freddie
fredj@wang.com

>--
>"A leopard never changes his stripes" 
>           -- Al Gore, candidate for vice-president
From: paulh@coos.dartmouth.edu (The Incubus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: nipple piercing,should I...
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:30:20 GMT
Organization: Anarchist Bikers from Hell

if you are asking others if you should or shouldn't then
NO WAY!
perhaps it is not as permanent as a tat...but I think
you should be sure you want something before going for it...
it sounds to me like the people saying they want a tattoo,
but ask about removal...if you are asking how to remove 
one before getting one, then wait

just MHO
The Incubus
The.Incubus@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart,alt.pagan,rec.boats,talk.politics.misc
From: deborahz@titan.ucc.umass.edu (DEBORAH L ZANDELL)
Subject: Re: See ya!
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:44:18 GMT

Your company has decided to limit all posts to "work-related?"

I wonder: do they also limit all travel in company cars to
"work-related" trips?  

Debbie.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Prince Albert problems
Keywords: Prince Albert problems healing infections
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:31:08 GMT

rice@scws7.harvard.edu (Ken Rice) writes:

>>>Leather up in Boston. I had a 12-gauge stainless steel circular barbell put
>>>into the pierce since I thought it would be the best idea healing-wise. Un-
>>>fortunately, my P.A. is being rather stubborn about healing up.

I'd suggest soaking your glans in a cup of warm to hot salted water as
often as possible.  Piss a lot too, drink a lot of american barley coolers
(they call it beer down there, what a laugh!).  Give it some air, if it's 
not a serious infection don't pull out the big artillery.  Don't touch it
without having washed your hands!  Use soap and water often, keep it clean.
Good Luck,
-P.

-- 
-- Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca|"We have heard that you are enlightened, is this true?
Behavioural Ecology      |"It is" Kyogen replied
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.     |"Tell us," said a friend, "How do you feel?"
Burnaby B.C. V5A 1S6 Canada|"As miserable as ever" replied the enlightend Kyogen
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: lambda@cis.umassd.edu (David G. Beals)
Subject: Re: Prince Albert problems
Keywords: Prince Albert problems healing infections
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:01:06 GMT

w.r.t. to the question about whether I completed the course of antibiotics 
given to me by my doctor:

The answer is yes, I took the full course of medication for the infection. 

As a side note, I've been using Cortisone-5 for several days now, and the marks
are fading quickly. It was definitely some sort of skin irritation and not
an infection.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Nipple Piercing = pos or neg change in sensitivity?
From: JMEYERS@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Jim)
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:33:42 -0600
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart
Distribution: world

In article <QepsmMi00WB60ny=AK@andrew.cmu.edu>, Seth Malcolm Redmore
<sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> I am worried about losing the sensitivity.
> 
> Any opinions? 

Seth, The sensitivity will only increase, and if you retain the piercings
for a long time, and enlarge the gague periodically (say,a couple of times
a year), the size of your nipples will also increase.

Jim
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart