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From: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doc)
Subject: Re: Top 50 Killers (12/7/92-19/7/92)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:07:35 GMT

avalon@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:

>Some things to avoid in #twilight_zone are asking:

>*	"can I ask a question ?"
>*	"is anyone here ?"
>*	"how does irc work ?"
>*	"i want to learn about irc, can anyone help me ?"
>*	"i want to setup a server,  ''     ''    '' '' ?"

>and so on.  Some of them will make the channel so quiet, you would think
>everyone was asleep :-) 

Pity us, O great gods of the #twilight_zone, if we displease you with our
trite questions.  Remember that we are mere mortal fools.

...shessh, Gwyd was right, tz is full of a bunch of elitist snobs.
From: geurin@flounder.nosc.mil (Chance C. Geurin)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Client for MSDOS?
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:08:14 GMT
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E (NRaD)

Is there a client program that works through the Clarkson packet drivers (
over Ethernet) for MSDOS?

Thanks for any info/leads,

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From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Useless Bots
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:55:05 GMT
Organization: Aston University

dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman) writes:
: 
: As a side note, I do agree that all moronic Baloo style bots should be shot
: on site.  (nothing personal baloo)

Don't worry, from what I hear he would probably agree with you.
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Owl)
Subject: wanted: user's guide to irc love
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:08:32 GMT


hi! after so much fun with irc, i want to start something new..
can someone tell me if there;s any doc for irc love and flirt?
this is gonna be one exciting project.. hope i don't get into trouble again.
thanks..


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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Subject: Re: IRC STATS ?
Organization: Doug's House of Disco
Originator: dougmc@dopey.cc.utexas.edu
Reply-To: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:09:53 GMT
X-Posted-From: dopey.cc.utexas.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hmmm ... ratios of incoming bytes to outgoing bytes ?

It seems to me that the best way to measure a server's usage would be to just
report it's average number of connections, to both servers and clients.  If
we want to be fair to hubs, we could say that a server connection is worth
twice (an arbitrary number ...) as much as a client connection.

This wouldn't even be terribly difficult to measure, as a bot could be written
that just does a /lusers <servername> for every server every, say 10 minutes,
and writes this information to a file, which we then analyze ... Maybe if I
get bored I'll write such a bot ... (kudos to the ircII writers, for making
such a versatile little client/language ...)

Or, I could be wrong ...

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: oysteint@ifi.uio.no (\ystein Tvedten)
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:56:05 GMT
Originator: oysteint@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


In article <14lh99INNpms@network.ucsd.edu>, adean@weber.ucsd.edu (Anthony V. Dean) writes:
> gja@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Grenville Armitage) wrote :
> >>gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) wrote :
> >>  >On behalf of all Americans who agree with me, I'd like to apologise
> >>  >for this bozo.
> >	[..]
> >>ps: I'd be pretty stupid to let you speak on my behalf anyway, so
> >>apologize for yourself.
> >
> >It would appear that you are, in fact, pretty stupid.
> >Given that you disagree with Greg, he has already excluded you from
> >his apology. Your knee-jerk is functional, how about your reading?
> >gja
> 
> My reading is fine, is yours? If you read it again the post script
> is conditional. Now, who's stupid?
> 
You are, dorkhead

/OT
From: irc@weber.ucsd.edu (WEBER:IRC)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRC Rules: All Newbies listen up !
Date: 22 Jul 1992 09:55:24 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

  stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf) writes:
  >*THIS IS A FLAME*
  >And maybe it's because most of them think US is the best and US rules the
  >world and they do not recognize that there are other, which find their
  >behaviour boring (in the best case) or annoying (in the standard case)!

*SIGH* I'm really sick and tired of the type of people like yourself (who 
in this instance, happen to be from Europe ) resorting to all sorts of 
ethnic stereotypings and slanderings in order to convey what can only be 
termed as uninformed, uneducated and bias "arguments."  Not only that, you 
people have the nerves to tell the people you're bashing not to retaliate 
and then go on to call them names when they do.  What's the matter?
Does it hurt your feeling when someone say something less flattering
about your country?  

Now, can we say " hyprocrite " ?

And then there are brilliant stunts like this:

 ->But maybe it's only because most of them are a little insane and have
 ->psychic problems!
 ->Think of it and consult your psychiater! [sic]

Really!! Can't you do any better than that? If not, try to control
yourself. You really look foolish in the eyes of reasonable people.

Every patriot is proud of his/her country. Be prepared to get what's coming 
your way if you demean it. Just as you would if the same happens to you.
If you're not prepared for retaliation, then think before you shoot
your mouth with "psychic problems" remarks such as the above.

*noticing the trend*
-avd
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Re: Top 50 Killers (12/7/92-19/7/92)
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 25 Jul 92 12:23:02 GMT

asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:

>avalon@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) was telling me...
>>asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>>
>>>hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) was telling me...
>>>>IRC knowledge isn't documented in books. To learn more, stop by
>>>>#Twilight_Zone -- I wouldn't suggest talking, tho. Just sit back and see
>>>>what goes on.
>>>>
>>
>>>This is highly debatable.  I wouldn't suggest it.
>>>But that's just my opinion.
>>
>>If you go there expecting to be lectured on IRC in a couple of hour /
>>half-hour sessions, then forget it.  The combined knowledge of those on
>>#twilight_zone about IRC is quite easily greater than that of all those who
>>are not on it.  This is more a reflection of who is on that channel, not
>>who isnt.  The amount of bugs that discussed or brought up on #twilight_zone
>>is quite astonishing (mainly for IrcII but hey ;) and I doubt there is any
>>other channel on IRC which has a similar content.
>>Some things to avoid in #twilight_zone are asking:

>No, Just expect #TZ to have the same content as operlist...and im not too
>thrilled with that.  If anything it's most people just sitting there 
>idling or /away until someone says something to start bickering about.

Actually, there is little (none) bickering on #tz like that on operlist.

Vanity-ops are usually more interested in their pet-channels like #hottub
or #hotsex and not so much the business of being an operator.

av
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: cyeh@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca (Woody)
Subject: installserv???
Originator: cyeh@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:19:07 GMT

		     INSTALLATION INSTRUCTION FOR IRCII

6.  If you wish to install the ircflush program as well,
    type "make installserv".
                      ^^^^
   *** I think it should have been "make installflush"

    See the Makefile about using ircserv and ircflush.

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: cschin@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (I am Photon)
Subject: Is there any FAQ on alt.irc@???
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:54:54 GMT

Hi! The Subject express that I want to say!!

cschin@uz.nthu.edu.tw

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: root@Heaven.COM
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.fan.warlord,alt.sex,alt.slack
Subject: Re: The great IRC SUICIDE CHALLENGE!
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:51:14 GMT
 <1992Jul9.141645.15942@cltr.uq.OZ.AU> <Br4v2K.D4s@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <Br5Bd6.IJ9@cs.dal.ca>
Organization: The Hereafter
X-Newsreader: GNUS 3.14.1

In article <Br5BD6.IJ9@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve "edified" Franklin) writes:

   Well, whether you guys know a lot about sex or not, you sure don't know much
   about UNIX! Doesn't anyone use God's newsreader, "nn"?

No.

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: wright@aesc.cs.odu.edu (GENTLEMAN)
Subject: Re: Problems with certain people ...
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:28:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.202858.2936@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:

   This doesn't make sense. You might as well say it: the person who is
   doing this is Scott Yelich, and he's been doing this sort of thing for
   years. I had an agreement from his boss at ODU that Scott was not
   going to do this again, and indeed he stopped at ODU, but now is
   elsewhere. Since he is a repeat offender, I'd advise calling his boss
   on the phone and explaining exactly what he does. The logfile should
   be sufficient proof.

Hmmm.....let me correct this story as I recall it:  Scott sent
you an ascii file of a middle finger.  You got upset, Greg, and
pulled links.  I recall UVA admin being upset with 
the manner that you conducted yourself.  Wasn't it
Scott's boss that called your boss at UVA and made sure
that you no longer cut ODU's link?

THOR
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.sleaze,alt.irc.recovery
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:27:32 -0400 
From: Douglas Allen Luce <dl2p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: US IRC EXTRAVAGANZA 1992: all invited

   LOCATION: Sheraton Premiere Hotel, Vienna VA (near Washington DC)
      START: August 6th, 1992, 8pm
        END: When the Earth Stands Still

	   ANNOUNCING THE 3rd Annual Pittsburgh IRC party!

(Due to police action and political pressure, the festivities have been
relocated to a suburb of Washington DC.)

You've scanned the nicks, now scan the people!  Meet the old, the new,
the famous, the infamous, the unknown, the desirable, the undesirable,
and the unplacable!  (A terminal and modem will be provided for those
dealing with their addiction.)

			   BYOB, BYOF, BYOD
		   (and be sure to bring yourself!)

Make Sure to RSVP today!  Email to dl2p+party92@andrew.cmu.edu
Mail to the same address for travel&hotel information and location
details.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jwoods@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Jeff Woods)
Subject: Re: IRC information
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:17:36 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX


Personally, I'd settle for an explanation of just what IRCs are about.

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: IRC Rules: All Newbies listen up !
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:13:04 GMT

In article <14kc2qINN9of@network.ucsd.edu> irc@weber.ucsd.edu (WEBER:IRC) writes:

>Somehow I think only you damn Finns have nothing better to do than going 
>around bashing other ethnics. How do you like me now?

On behalf of all Americans who agree with me, I'd like to apologise
for this bozo. I have yet to meet a Finn who has bashed anyone without
being sorely provoked, and I have met many Americans who provoke.

Maybe we'll grow up someday, maybe not.

[ p.s. for those of you who missed the history on this, this argument
is related to the reason why channel 42 (#42 now) is the way it is. ]
Xref: sparky alt.irc:2470 alt.stupidity:2463 alt.flame:11321
From: humor@gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Ever-Mirthful Man of Mayhem)
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.stupidity,alt.flame
Subject: Re: WANTED: USER'S GUIDE TO IRC LOVE
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:04:18 GMT
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: /etc/organization
Originator: humor@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


Steve,
	hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
	*sniff* waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh


I laughed, i cried....that post was GREAT! :-)


Amusedly,

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From: adean@weber.ucsd.edu (Anthony V. Dean)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:06:02 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) wrote :
>
>being an American and as such, identified with you.

You identify with me? I can take your name calling, but dont insult
me by saying you identify with me. Dream on, boy!
>> then you havent read this group very carefully
>Yes, I have. 
Sure you have. Then I suppose you recall my saying that I was not
American? Or was it an oversight?

hehehe You're mildly amusing, wumpuss.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: Top 50 Killers (12/7/92-19/7/92)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:17:32 GMT
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) was telling me...
>IRC knowledge isn't documented in books. To learn more, stop by
>#Twilight_Zone -- I wouldn't suggest talking, tho. Just sit back and see
>what goes on.
>

This is highly debatable.  I wouldn't suggest it.
But that's just my opinion.


>Helen Trillian Rose             	email eff@eff.org for EFF info
>Systems and Networks Administration	Flames to: 
><hrose@eff.org, hrose@cs.bu.edu>	women-not-to-be-messed-with@eff.org
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hmm.  I'm gonna mail that and see if it works...<grin>


-Alex

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Re: Call for submission on layout of stats.
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:04:57 GMT

the cure writes:

>
>                        Server Name [ Outgoing/s] [ Incoming/s]
>                                    [Byte] [Pckt] [Byte] [Pckt]
>
>                    CSULX.Weber.EDU [0283] [0007] [0089] [0002]

In such stat you must have the following:

Servername Days+hours:min:sec-open  outgoingBytes incomingBytes

Just to have the Bytes there is not much. I want how long the
server has been open, not open since. And a total number of bytes.
And TotNumberOfBytes / SecondsSinceStartup, that is bytes/sec.
I think you can forget the packets. Either that or bytes/packets.

You should also indicate if a server is a hub or a leaf. This is 
easy for Europe. I dunno about the US, Japan and AU.

\Ruben.
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Re: Useless Bots
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:22:21 GMT

StarWatcher@uiuc.edu (StarWatcher) writes:

>asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>: oren@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Oren Kastner) was telling me...

>:>That wasn't my point.  My point was that someone such as Avalon (and Trillian)
>:>have an process running and logged into IRC 24 hrs/day.  You can't say a bot
>:>wastes CPU cycles and bandwidth because more than likely a bot generates less
>:>traffic than say Avalon's process!
>: 
>:Not really, considering when they are /away their connections don't do
>:anything.  They don't make any mode changes, they don't spew out files
>:or anything.  Sounds like a lot less traffic to me.

>Hmmmm....wouldn't regular /notify checks use CPU cycles, and isn't there
>a little effort required by the /away person's host machine to "display"
>incoming messages, or sever messages (if usermode is +s)?  I really doubt
>that many of the bots out there are usermode +s, or have /notify files
>(but I could be wrong...), while many of the /away real people are/do....

Objection: I never use notify.

And your problem with away's being sent back when a person is away is
probably going to be a problem when people arent there and you get an
error back instead.

avalon
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Useless Bots
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:39:12 GMT
Organization: Aston University

masdough@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Dough the Demented) writes:
: There are 2 types of bots - the ones where the owners are assholes.. then there
: are the rest.. Don't get rid of the the bots.. Get rid of the assholes :)

The problem is how does one tell the differance.

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Re: Top 50 Killers (12/7/92-19/7/92)
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:19:55 GMT

asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:

>hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) was telling me...
>>IRC knowledge isn't documented in books. To learn more, stop by
>>#Twilight_Zone -- I wouldn't suggest talking, tho. Just sit back and see
>>what goes on.
>>

>This is highly debatable.  I wouldn't suggest it.
>But that's just my opinion.

If you go there expecting to be lectured on IRC in a couple of hour /
half-hour sessions, then forget it.  The combined knowledge of those on
#twilight_zone about IRC is quite easily greater than that of all those who
are not on it.  This is more a reflection of who is on that channel, not
who isnt.  The amount of bugs that discussed or brought up on #twilight_zone
is quite astonishing (mainly for IrcII but hey ;) and I doubt there is any
other channel on IRC which has a similar content.
Some things to avoid in #twilight_zone are asking:

*	"can I ask a question ?"
*	"is anyone here ?"
*	"how does irc work ?"
*	"i want to learn about irc, can anyone help me ?"
*	"i want to setup a server,  ''     ''    '' '' ?"

and so on.  Some of them will make the channel so quiet, you would think
everyone was asleep :-) These are also listed in the FAQ (which appears not
often enough :) and are constantly brought up when people complain about
lack of help on that channel.

>>Helen Trillian Rose             	email eff@eff.org for EFF info
>>Systems and Networks Administration	Flames to: 
>><hrose@eff.org, hrose@cs.bu.edu>	women-not-to-be-messed-with@eff.org
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Hmm.  I'm gonna mail that and see if it works...<grin>

It does exist and I'd be careful with what you send it. They do mean
business :-)

av
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: Re: Useless Bots
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:44:52 GMT

In article <avalon.712334082@coombs> avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
>frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:
>>BTW.. if you were to ask me if we needed NickServ, or NoteServ, I'd say they
>>could go away and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
>Maybe, but Nickserv does more than 'reserve' nicks.
>The best feature I find is doing "whois <nick>" on NickServ and getting

Yes yes.. I knew I should have clarified this.  As a database nickserv is 
useful.  However since I have to tell people MANY MANY MANY more times that
nicknames are NOT fucking owned in spite of what nickserv implies it just
ends up getting on my nevers after a while.  If I ran nickserv I think I'd
add an option to make a chosen nickname unregisterable.  Meaning, anyone
could use it and not get harrased by nickserv but it might still have 
the database information, or it might just be blank.  I'd use it on 
such names as  'root' and 'irc'.

So, even with the usefulness of the database, I have to say that I'd probably
be happier without nickserv to confuse the world.

	ian
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: IRC Rules: All Newbies listen up !
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:59:01 GMT


In article <1992Jul21.113447.5421@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf) writes:
>
> And maybe it's because most of them think US is the best and US rules
> the world and [...]

Fuck off.  Take your national bigotry elsewhere.


(I agree with most of the other sentiments expressed in the referenced
article.)

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