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From: barnhill@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Pro 5 on a Classic?
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:45:33 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Jul29.164624.9089@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, nastasi@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joseph.l.nastasi) writes:
> Hello out there,
> 
> I have a Mac Classic 4/40 running system 6.0.7 and I've been using
> Passport's Master Tracks Pro 4, very happily for a couple of years.
> I want to upgrade to Pro 5, but I'm concerned that the additional
> features may have slowed performance to an unusable level on a Classic.
> (I'm praying that they didn't pull a Microsoft and changed Pro 
> into the "Word" of sequencers, feature-laden and useless on 68000's!)
> My music is not very dense (well, there aren't tons of notes played
> all at once, anyway :-) and I've never had problems with Pro 4.
> Anybody using Pro 5 on a Classic?  I'd even appreciate rumors!
> 
> Thank you, very very much!
> Joe Nastasi

On my Plus with 4Mb RAM I decidedly noticed when I upgraded from PRO4 to 5.
However, the feature set was well worth the trade-off in speed.  It is very
rare that I run into the processor speed being a problem, only on extremely
dense pieces (and I am extrememly dense sometimes, as no doubt others will
be quick to point out).  There has been a second release to correct a little
boo-boo in the original 5.0 release, I think they just called it 5.1.  Maybe
it was to correct a "feature."  Yeah, that's the ticket.  I guess the SMPTE
sync was pretty unstable, although I hadn't gotten around to doing a sync
yet, so I don't know what was wrong with it.  

For work which isn't really chock full of tempo changes and the like, I haven't
seen any problems at all, though I have crashed due to it's looking for a 
co-processor, but 4.0 would do that to one just as swiftly and irrevocably.
The main thing that you lose, by running it on a 68000 based machine, is the
ability to use the MIDIOT MANGER...er, I mean MIDI Manager, which is kind of
neat.  We're in the midst of reorganizing the area such that we can move our 
IIsi to where it can be used as the MIDI platform because of this.

It is a real improvement over 4.0, though, and well worth upgrading -- there
are features which *should* have been in the software from the get-go, like
volume sliders and librarian functions, the ability to store a bunch of 
"songs" and play them in order, which is only limited by RAM -- saves having
to make everyone in the band wait while you launch some file.

So it's a yin and yang, good and bad -- but, if as you say, there's not a
whole lot of information being processed, it's mostly note-on, note-off,
veloc., etc., you probably won't even notice the difference.

db
From: sk1y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shuntaro Kawakami)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Wanted:  mixer
Date: 26 Jul 92 05:59:00 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If some want to sell the mixer, please write me an email.
From: John.Kent@f5117.n124.z1.fidonet.org (John Kent)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: WANTED: KORG Wavesta
Date: 14 Jul 92 14:23:52 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5117 - The Nightfly, Dallas TX

SOR>In article <1992Jul1.114509.868@spider.co.uk>
   >stuartm@spider.co.uk (Stuart MacNeill) writes:
   >>   Are there any KORG Wavestation owners out there who have upgraded to 
th
   >>   Wavestation EX but *ALSO* have the *PIANO* PCM card. If so, I'd like
   >>   to buy this card, as it is probably of little or no use to you now 
that
   >>   you have upraded your Wavestation.

I would consider selling my Piano Card Set ssince I upgraded to the EX.
817-860-9415.
___
 * SLMR 2.0 * I'm looking for old Roland, Arp, Prophet, Moog, PPG ...


 

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Internet: John.Kent@f5117.n124.z1.fidonet.org
From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Attn:  MIDI Newcomers!
Summary: Two pieces of good advice
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:44:19 GMT
Organization: Atomic City

In article <1992Jul28.205333.1@acad2.alaska.edu> asrbb@acad2.alaska.edu writes:
>Don't post to this newsgroup if you need assistance or information about
>MIDI topics.  Speaking from experience, the people who post here are not
>interested in your problems or troubles...you're on your own!

Basically true. We've needed a monthly FAQ for a long time, but no one
is interested in making the effort to even determine what should be in 
it, least of all me. After the fiftieth question that, if rephrased in
terms of a field the newbie DID understand, would be OBVIOUSLY impossible
to answer ("Hi, I've gotten interested in computers. What kind should I
buy? I might want to do computer animation like Pixar does, and maybe
ray tracing, and nuclear Routhian surface calculations, but I don't
want to spend over $600 or so."), we get too tired to even tell people
to shut up and go away and learn something first.

>Sorry about that, but that's just the way it seems to go and I thought
>I'd save you some time.  Try the magazines and users groups in your area
>if you want support.

Don't apologize, kid. If you'd gone and done the months or years of reading
and studying that the mean, nasty old synth experts on this Net did before
rec.music.synth was even founded, you'd have discovered that the vast
majority of your answers are easily accessible through magazines, books,
and user groups, without your needing to come here to be fed knowledge
with an eye dropper. Your advice given here is sound: use the facilities
available to you and try to put together a decent knowledge base before
you ask questions on r.m.s, and you're far more likely to get answers
to the questions you DO end up asking. If that sounds too much like hard
work, then quit now before you spend any more money.

Hit the books; we'll see you soon.

--
dr. michael metlay          \  "Warning: This is not normal music.
atomic city                  \  This is heavily processed pain."  
                              \ 
metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu \                       (r. miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: htoyryla@ntc01.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: GLIB -> TX81Z
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:57:31 GMT


Here is a TURBO PASCAL program I have myself used to convert TX81Z patches
from ucsd.edu for loading into my TX81Z. This program inserts the
sysex header and adds a checksum at the end. The input file should
be without extension, and the result file will have an extension .get.
I have used getit30 to send this file to the TX81Z but there are other
programs which should work as well.

regards

Hannu


program senddump ;

const filesize = 4096 ;

var
   iname, oname : string[20] ;
   infile : file of byte ;
   outfile : file of byte ;
   counter : integer ;
   temp : byte ;
   checksum : byte ;

procedure putbyte(tavu:byte) ;

begin
  write(outfile, tavu) ;
end ;


begin
     write('input filename ') ; readln(iname) ;
     oname := iname+'.get' ;
     assign(infile,iname) ;
     assign(outfile,oname) ;
     reset(infile) ;
     rewrite(outfile) ;
     putbyte($f0) ;
     putbyte($43) ;
     putbyte(0) ;
     putbyte(4) ;
     putbyte($20) ;
     putbyte(0) ;
     checksum := 0 ;
     for counter := 1 to filesize do
       begin
         read(infile, temp) ;
         checksum := checksum + temp ;
         write(outfile, temp)
       end ;
     checksum := not(checksum) + 1 ;
     checksum := checksum and $7f ;
     write(outfile, checksum) ;
     putbyte($f7) ;
     close(infile) ;
     close(outfile) ;

end.
From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: NetJam is famous now! |->
Summary: EM article this month features C. Latta
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:36:15 GMT
Organization: Atomic City


Congratulations to Craig Latta and the folx at NetJam, who were featured
prominently in a recent article in Electronic Musician on long-distance
MIDI collaboration. Craig's comments were cogent and worthwhile; we can
expect to see a lot more novices on r.m.s seeking enlightenment in the
coming weeks, as our newsgroup gets "discovered" by the MI public at
large. (The rest of the article was nowhere near as practical; one way
to network that was described was intended for people who just happened
to have a couple of Lone Wolf MIDITaps lying around gathering dust....)

--
metlay@  | GRANULAR SYNTHESIS: Throwing an 01/W under a Conrail locomotive
minerva. |                     and sampling the "crunch" it makes.
phyast.  | 
pitt.edu |                                  (with thanks to John T. Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: htoyryla@ntc01.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: GLIB -> TX81Z
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:42:08 GMT

In article <1680231@hpsad.sad.hp.com>, smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith) writes:
> cfejm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (John Miller)  writes:
>>In article <GEORG.92Jul28150021@dali.nlp.physik.th-darmstadt.de> georg@dali.nlp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Georg Mueller) writes:
>>>In article <9207281217.AA00655@efftoo.boeing.com> crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM> writes:
>>>
>>>   >Here is a TURBO PASCAL program...
>>>
>>>   Nope, sorry Hannu, that's completely unacceptable.  Real musicians
>>>   don't write Pascal.
>>>
>>>Yeah, FORTRAN 77, that's the ticket, any volunteers for the
>>>translation. I'm on constant search for MPU stuff in FORTRAN.
>>>	
>>>	Georg.
>>
>>
>>Actually, I understand that the new guidelines of the International
>>Society for Electronic Music Computation suggest COBOL as the coming
>>language of choice for serious programming.
>>
>>John
> 
> Well, regardless of guidelines, I like to do ALL of my music programming in
> ADA.
>     - Jim
> 

Where did you all get the idea that my program had something to do
with music ? Oops, did I post to a wrong newsgroup. Should have been
to alt.file-conversions.exotic...

Hannu

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jtn@ADS.COM (John T. Nelson)
Subject: Re: SY99 has no peers?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:15:52 GMT

> metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay) writes:

>>Hello all.  I'm looking for my next megasynth [...]
>
>What, crushed harpsichords not good enough for you any more, John? |->

Oh... I don't want to PLAY the new mega synth... I want to record the
glorious sound of its plastic and silicon body being smashed to dust
under the merciless onslaught of a huge Conrail Locomotive!  Hee hee...
Talk about granular synthesis!

>appeals to me, for the sort of rhythmic synthesis that pushes my
>creative buttons. The other, which I plan to test out and evaluate
>heavily in the very near future, is the Kurzweil 2000. It has an

Yes, a couple net denizens have recommended looking at the Kurzweil 2000
and the SD-1/32.

Thanks for the recs.

- John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
From: darrin@engin.umich.edu (Darrin P Cardani)
Subject: Wanted: MIDImouse for the Mac
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:13:12 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Does anybody out there have or know where I can get the Mac program MIDImouse?
I used it at Berklee about 4 years ago and I haven't seen it since. It
basically takes mouse input and outputs a four part harmony in a given scale.
Anyone know who made this, where I can get a copy, etc.?
						Thanks,
						Darrin Cardani
darrin@engin.umich.edu
From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Ensoniq KS-32
Summary: Alas! How embarrassing!
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:30:54 GMT
Organization: Atomic City

In article <1992Jul28.215307.131421@cs.cmu.edu> sef@sef-pmax.slisp.cs.cmu.edu writes:
>    ...But did they do the same bogus
>    endplate design on this unit as they did with the SQ-2, adding useless
>    decorations that make the keyboard a half inch too wide to fit on a normal
>    --
>    dr. michael metlay
>
>Not a big problem for most of us.  In fact, I've seen no evidence that
>there is such a thing as "a normal dr. michael metlay".  The KS-32 would
>fit nicely onto the more familiar "not-very-normal dr. michael metlay," at
>least if dropped from a sufficent height.  But the T-8 would clearly be
>better for this purpose.

Watch it, Fahlman. I know where you live. |->

Sorry for the garbled post, folx. Minerva has been acting funny lately;
it dropped the last line, which was "...Keyboard stand?". The habit of
making 49-inch keyboards drives me nuts....


--
dr. michael metlay          \  "Warning: This is not normal music.
atomic city                  \  This is heavily processed pain."  
                              \ 
metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu \                       (r. miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,alt.music.progressive
From: bmaraldo@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Commander Brett Maraldo)
Subject: Re: Nash the Slash Rises Again!!! NEW RELEASE
Organization: Unit 36 Research
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:01:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.053308.19550@intacc.uucp> zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes:
>>                               Cut Throat Productions
>>                                 684 Younge Street
>>                                     PO Box 66
>>                                  Toronto, Ontario
>>                                   M4Y 2A6  Canada
>                     THat's 684 Yonge Street (not Younge)

	Oppps.  You're right.
>                                ----- 
>
>By the way, a friend of mine who has know Nash for 15 years said that he
>read in the newspaper that a downtown Toronto man with the exact same
>age and real name of Nash had been arrested for some fairly heinous
>assualt or sex crime.  I can't remember what his name is....something
>like Jeff Gl*****. 

	Two days ago I test drove some cars with Nash... he's looking.
After a chat last night I can assure you Nash is not affiliated in any way
with this sexual assualt crime, or any crime for that matter.  Unless you
have *real* information don't bother posting rumours.

Brett Maraldo
Plexus Productions
'Where analogue meets digital... and wins!'



-- 
               --------     Unit 36 Research     ---------
	                "Alien Technology Today"
  	 	      bmaraldo@watserv1.UWaterloo.ca
  	           {uunet!clyde!utai}!watserv1!bmaraldo
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bmaraldo@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Commander Brett Maraldo)
Subject: Nash the Slash LIVE!!! (and *not* in jail)
Organization: Unit 36 Research
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:29:10 GMT


	Ok, I just talked to Nash.  His CD has officially been released and
copies are being shipped.  Get them while their hot... see my previous post
for the mailing address.  Nash tells me that he had no clue about about
a sexual assault charge.  Topic ends here.

NASH THE SLASH, LIVE!  at  The Radisson Hotel, London, Ontario

	This is not the usual Nash gig.  You might very well consider driving
up for this event.  This is the deal:  Nash has not been performing live for
some time.  He has been spending his time writing movie sound tracks.  He has
little interest in performing in bars these days - he's grown out of that.

	Nash will be performing his sound tracks to _Lost World_ and
_The Casket of Dr. Caligari_ LIVE on Saturday 1 Aug 1992 and Sunday 2 Aug 1992
at 2200h at the science ficition convention being held at the Radisson Hotel
in London, Ontario.  The live performance will be held with a large video
screen presentation of the movies.  Nash's new CD will be on sale as will
other Nash-goodies.  There will be a special limited edition of signed and
number copies of the CD for sale.

	To get there:  Get on the Queen Elizabeth Way in Southern Ontario
(starts in Fort Erie).  Take the 403 from Burlington to the 401 West.
The 401 will take you directly to London.  It's about a 3h drive from the
Niagara Falls border.  The Radisson Hotel is on King & Wellington.
See you there.

Brett L Maraldo
Plexus Productions
'Where analogue meets digital... and wins!'
-- 
               --------     Unit 36 Research     ---------
	                "Alien Technology Today"
  	 	      bmaraldo@watserv1.UWaterloo.ca
  	           {uunet!clyde!utai}!watserv1!bmaraldo
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: PERFORMER v3.61 FOR SALE $73.95
Keywords: PERFORMER v3.61 FOR SALE $73.95
Organization: Sony Microsystems Corp, San Jose, CA
Distribution: rec.music.synth
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 14:34:21 GMT

In article <LJR-mM_@engin.umich.edu> darrin@slaw.engin.umich.edu (Darrin P Cardani) writes:
>Why do you think that? What's illegal about it?

In the original posting, Daniel was trying to sell his v3.61 diskettes
after upgrading to v4.0, which costs $73.95, and not selling a copy of
Performer, which typically sells for $350.

An upgrade is not a new purchase.  All it does is entitle you to use a
new version of software or a new product, and also includes new copies
of the product and possibly documentation.  It does not consititute a
sale of a new product, and thus doesn't result in a new "unit" of
customer support.

In other words, if I were to sell you my old diskettes and manuals, but
not transfer the license to you, you would not be able to upgrade or
get support.

Part of the problem here is that upgrades cost money, so it "feels"
like a new purchase.  If a software company sends you a free update
to a product (v1.0->v1.1), you'd probably never consider selling the
software because it's "the same software".  When it costs money, you
may feel that you are "buying a new copy at a discount".

The software companies definitely don't feel this way.  If you buy
an upgrade, it's the same as if you'd bought it in the first place
(and were given old diskettes and manuals just to clutter up your
workspace ;-).

Competitive upgrades, which often cost more, do generally entitle
you to full rights to both products.  These are, for the most part,
used to a) get you to start using a family of products and b) add
you to the roles of the active upgraders (aka upgrade fee-payers).
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
From: tuan@sequent.com (Tuan Nguyen)
Subject: WANTED: Patch bay, Effects boxes...
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:54:54 GMT

I'm in need of the following gears:
	- Patch bay 1/4 inch.
	- Reverb box (lxp-15)
	- Compressor (symetrix)
	- Delay (Digitech)
Is anyone know where to get them for a good pricer?

Also, if you have something similar and want to sell please contact me.

Thanks very much.

tuan.    ( tuan@sequent.com  )


From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:21:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy MIDI song files
Organization: no risk to you!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)  writes:
>...Especially the stereo Burroughs stuff, a nice touch.

Yeah, coupled with the Boss RA-la-r-NDL/E Realtime Arranger with the
Laurie Anderson personality card and non-deterministic looping, I think
you could even cover "Home Of the Brave."

"Listen to my heart beat..."


             Jim Smith                   smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
  I grabbed the Spike of Power from the ugly doodle, and there was a flash...
 I looked *cute as a button* as I thumped the forest floor.  Flower laughed.  
   There was smoke in the distance.  Man had come to the forest.  Bambi's 
    mother looked worried, even though the evil spirit was safely locked 
in a tree.  The men had a machine that ate trees.  And Godzilla was coming.
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:12603 comp.music:3803
From: mu299af@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (G. Y.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Best Price on Roland JV-80
Keywords: Price Roland JV-80
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:21:37 GMT
Followup-To: poster

I am getting Roland JV-80 as my first keyboard.  Can someone tell me
the best price for it and where I can get that price (i.e. name,
address, tel. #)  Thank you very much.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Original_To:  BITNET%"SYNTH-L@AUVM"
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:38:00 EDT
From:         CSHEW@SNYESCVA.BITNET
Subject:      Any BBS experts out there??

I have been charged with the task of setting up a BBS for a friend who
doesn't know the first thing about going about this. He has an IBM 286
system that he can dedicate to the task. He wants me to find some people
who have already set up and run BBS systems to help us figure out the
best software to use and how best to avoid problems in getting the thing
up and running.

If anybody out there can help us out with this, please E-mail me.

I know this question doesn't really fit this group, but it seems to me
there are a lot of knowledgeable people that frequent this discussion.

Thanks for your help,

Charlie Shew
"CSHEW@SNYESCVA.BITNET"
From: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com (Craig Barnes - Sun UK - IR  N + SW Group Region)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: The K2000 vs. SY99 debate - SY99 Owner
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:30:55 GMT
Reply-To: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: hadrian.uk.sun.com


A friend of mine purchased an SY99 from a store in London, he very soon realised that it didn't fill the roll of  a WORKSTATION . Since he has purchased an Ensoniq SD1, which besides it's 61 note limitation is a far better "WORKSTATION" for less money.

I spent some time with his SY99 trying to figure out how it worked. Eventually we decided that the designers of the machine were "brain dead" in there approach to what the SY99 should have been able to do.

Why have a 76 note keyboard with no master controller facilities, the SD1 can control 12 synths at once, whilst sequencing on it's other 12 tracks internally or externally. The memory can be expanded to 75,000 notes for about 42 UK pounds and it's very quick to load. 

The only good thing about the SY99 is it's sample RAM memory, but this costs a fortune to install the full complement of RAM.

Craig
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: re: Regarding Marc Webster's K2000/SY99 comments
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:57:00 GMT


Again, marc, you are missing the point.  You can't just go in and compare a
K2000 with an SY99, or anything else, for that matter.  The problem is that
for the most part, the ROM programs are not very illustrative of what a
K2000 can sound like.  So, unless you find a store which has someone who
can really program a K2000 (this is highly unlikely, but Sweetwater Sound
is one exception), you can't make a valid comparison.  Granted, if you
really like the Yamaha FM sound, and that's all you like, you cant beat an
SY99 (or SY77 for that matter).  However, the K2000 can produce some
remarkably Yamaha-like sounds, and a whole lot more.  I am willing to concede
that an FM synth (an SY99 or SY77, or even a TX-802 or DX7-II) may be a
niche platform (the way I view a WaveStation, or a MicroWave, or even a
EMS-VCS3 to be), however, that a K2000 does just about everything else, and
does it better than anything else, makes it a better choice non-niche
keyboard.  If I was in love with FM sounds, I would definately add a real
FM synth to my rig and not bother making the K2000 fill that role.  As it
is, the K2000 provides enough FM-like timbres to keep me satisfied.

One more thing about the K2000/FM issue.  Dean Swan will be intimately 
introduced to the K2000 next week.  Either Metlay or me will report his
reaction.  For those of you who may not remember Dean, he is one of the
great FM programmers and aficionados alive (and still playing with FM)
today.

John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth