HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Atari Corp. Scand. AB (Norway)
Subject: Re: Atari ST with 60Mhz 68040 on the Atari Messe
	<1992Aug25.125150.3387@aber.ac.uk> <tiemann.714777478@tardis61>
	<l9lhjkINN8i1@aludra.usc.edu>
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 12:26:30 MET

In <l9lhjkINN8i1@aludra.usc.edu>, Juxtaposer writes:

A lot of stuff deleted

>	That would be nice - but we'd have to bulk-order the 68040s to make
>it anywhere feasable.  They are _expensive_.  BTW, this overdriving of the
>'040 could have some potentially nasty effects - I believe that Motorola has
>only released 33MHz spec. chips.
>

The 68040 do have an internal clock doubler, although Motorola does'nt make 
such a big fuzz about it. But using the Intel terminology in advertisment, the
68040/33Mhz would be a 68040/66Mhz (DXII) processor! I guess this is what the 
maker of this 68040 ST enhancement project has done....

-- 
  _______________________________________________________
 / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
/ Oslo, Norway /  Any lack of opinion above is also mine! \
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Digital Stereo 10-Band Graphic Equalizer of the Falcon030 (Using DSP)
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:44:18 GMT


This is to all people who would like to connect a Digital Stereo 10-Band
Graphic Equalizer. Document number APR2/D by Motorola deals with this matter
and can be obtained free of charge from Motorola. You can either call them and
ask for the document number or you can write to:

Literature Distribution Centers:

USA: Motorola Literature Distribution, P.O. Box 20912; Phoenix, Arizona 85036;
     United States of America.
Europe: European Literature Center; 88 Tanners Drive. Blakelands Milton
        Keynes, MK145BP, England.
Asia Pacific: Motorola Semiconductors H.K. Ltd.; P.O. Box 80300;Cheung Sha Wan
              Post Office; Kowloon Hong Kong.

Most likely the document will be available from your local Motorola office
but if it is not, you can obtain if from the above addresses. The Equalizer
is build with the following components: 1-2716, 1-74LS374, 1-ADC0804, 
4-HC4051 and the source code is also included. The implementation into the
Falcon030 and future line of Falcon computers is rather straight forward.

Sincerely,
Mark Kovarski
Internet: kovarski@zooid.guild.org
IBMNet: Mark Kovarski@40:649/313





Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Falcon question:  is 640x480x8 mode memory-mapped?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:32:23 GMT


The Falcon030, as a machine, has some very unique features to offer. As far as
the company is concerned, it is run by very unprofessional staff members, to
say the least. Not only that, they are *very* affraid if someone voices an
opinion that does not correspond to theirs.

As I have stated many times before, the computer market in North America and
around the world has changed dramatically over the course of the last few
years. This is not 1985 but 1992. The PC market along with the Mac market
are the dominating force and will remain so unless something truly 
spectacular will happen. The amount of Atari dealers that are still 
supporting the Atari line of computers in North America is declining. Only a
very few are still selling Atari computers. There is vitually no support,
and if there is you will have to search for mail-order house. Not many
people like to use mail-order houses, I can tell you that much.

For whatever reason people are switching to other platforms, they are doing it
because they are not satisfied with the current one they own. After
contributing to the Atari community as much as I possibly could, I have
decided to move on but I still own lots of Atari equipment. Currently I
am running a 486/50 MHz, 16 MB Ram, ATI Graphics Ultra (Super Fast Graphics),
17 inch MAG Monitor etc. Sure the system costs quite a few $$ but it was well
worth it. Runnnig IBM's OS/2 2.0 allows me to multitask and multithread and
run Windows and DOS as well OS/2 programs at the same time. I must agree, 
when Atari Corporation initially released their ST line, PC computers could
not compete but today it is a totally different story. You can have the
fastest machine in the world but if there is almost no support it's not worth
one dime.

Forbes, a leading financial publication in the United States, summarized
Atari Corporations dealings very nicely - CHEAP DIDN'T SELL.

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Mark K.
E-Mail: kovarski@zooid.guild.org
UUCP: uunet.ca!zooid!kovarski
IBMNet: Mark Kovarski@44:613/13
AtariNet: Mark K @ Brewery BBS
Opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: looking for an assembler
From: ppospis@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:02:35 MDT
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

I am looking for a PD assembler/linker/debugger.  It would be
preferable to get an integrated entity, however, if necessary
I am willing to consider independent programs.  Any suggestions?

An ex-Atari ST person has indicated that there was a proprietary
assembler product out in the 80s by Metacomco or Techstar.  Has
anyone else used this and if so do you have the current phone/fax
number?

Please e-mail direct.  Thanks.

Paul
ppospis@mtroyal.ab.ca
From: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Paul Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Reading the system clock????
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:12:14 GMT
Reply-To: paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona

Is there some system call to get the system time to, say, a fraction of a
second?  All I've been able to find will only give me a two-second resolution,
which really isn't good enough for what I'm doing (a benchmark program).

-Thanks

-Paul Harris
paul@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
From: abaddon@supr.scm.liv.ac.uk (Kevin o donovan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GEM.. what needs to be fixed, and soon!
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:18:51 GMT
	<1992Aug28.095413.26495@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

>>>>> On 28 Aug 92 09:54:13 GMT, ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher) said:

> As to whether better interfaces appear on other machines, it doesn't really
> matter. As the Atari machines are a small minority the coding interface of
> the machine has to be addapted so that it looks like one of the big boys
> (however awful that may be) so as to persuade big time developers even to
> look in the direction of the Atari. (If all it needs is a quick recompile
> of, say, the PC code of a word processor, or anything, without any rewriting
> then a software house is more likely to support it.)

No, no, no, no! I didn't buy an ST so that I could run PC (for example) look
alike software on it. If having access to that software is important to you
then you should be using a PC. I don't think anyone here honestly sees atari 
taking on the likes of IBM, much as we'd like them too (more people using your
software means more people likely to pay for it), but to suggest that they 
should just attempt to blend in instead... They're are enough PC clones in the
world already, without Atari starting to churn them out.

Kev
From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Communications Software
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:36:06 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <36894@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> virus@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:
>Can anyone tell me where I can get communications software that will run on
>a 1040ST without a hard drive (just one floppy)?  If there is a shareware or
>public domain program available, please tell me where I can get it.  Please
>tell me if there is an FTP site or a phone number where I can download.
>
>If not, please tell me where I can get a catalog where I can order this
>program.  It has to be able to support Kermit and Xmodem.  Please help -
>I haven't found any place in Florida that sells anything for ST.  Please 
>respond by E-mail or post.

Try st_term.lzh at atari.archive.umich.edu in atari/telecomm/.  It's PD
and handles Kermit and Xmodem (not to mention Ymodem, Zmodem, Fmodem,
SEAlink, Compu$erve B, and perhaps a few others).  However, it's a fairly
old program and isn't at all GEM-based, if that's what you're looking 
for.  It *DOES* work, though.

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: usenet@atari.archive.umich.edu (Atari Archive Robot)
Subject: Weekly Posting of New Stuff
Organization: The Atari Posse @ Umich
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 07:03:07 GMT

  drwxrwxr-x atari	1024	Aug 23 03:01 .
From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Having problems with zoo21.ttp...
Date: 28 Aug 1992 13:40:14 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


 
	Well, I am about to give up.


	No, not because it doesn't work, but rather because now it works!  The
problem is, I don't know why, or how long it will last - and THAT really
pisses me off.  I'll use it when I have to, I just won't look forward to it.


	Thanks to all of you that tried to help.  I guess the TT was just being
stubborn...

-Mike




Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leridez@rpksun1.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Daniel Leridez)
Subject: Packet radio
Organization: Univerity of Karlsruhe (FRG)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:33:43 GMT

Keywords: 

Hi anybody !

Can anyone tell me where i can find programs for pocket radio with the ST.
FTP-Sites are prefered. Does anyone works with such programs ?

Please send Email.

Thank you

	Daniel
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From: daryl@piano.adept.ih.att.com (55000-Daryl Monge(ih1439)392)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari ST with 60Mhz 68040 on the Atari Messe
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:16:41 GMT
	<tiemann.714777478@tardis61>
Organization: 5ESS(TM)-US Release Management
In-reply-to: tiemann@iis.ethz.ch's message of 25 Aug 92 21:17:58 GMT

In article <tiemann.714777478@tardis61> tiemann@iis.ethz.ch (Bjoern Tiemann) writes:

   In my eyes it's not fair to sell this system as a '60 MHz 68040'.
   Maybe 60 MHz is the internal clock speed.

This is exactly how the cheap clones get away with advertising 50MHz processors.
They are using the clock doubler chips.  The external clock is 25MHz.

Even still, these clock doubled chips reportedly give a performance boost.

I sure wouldn't mind owning a 60MHz 68040 based atari!

Daryl Monge			AT&T Bell Labs
EMAIL: daryl@adept.att.com	VOICE: 708-713-4696
PAPER: Rm 2A-448   P.O. Box 3050, Naperville, Il 60566
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Need a good hard Drive backup program....
Summary: 'spelling flame'
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:33:47 GMT

In article <l9l78nINNfe1@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>
>	I hadn't heard about this product.  Does it check in memory for already
>resident viri?  Does it scan a hard-disk for file-infecting viri (as opposed to
>strictly boot-sector viri)?

I really thought we had settled the plural-of-virus question.  The English
language plural of 'virus' is 'viruses' (the word is not a standard Latin
masculine form).  The recommended plural within the Atari ST community is
(naturally enough) the German language plural 'viren.'  The form 'virii'
is an abomination, and 'viri' is only slightly less uglii.

                                  Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Subject: More TT030 help...
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:26:09 GMT

I just bought an 8 meg TT.  I have a hundred zillion questions, but I'll
start off with 2...

1)  How do you use the Fast RAM?  All memory tests show I only have 4,
which I can understand, but when I run Calamus and load all my 130 fonts
it says I'm out of memory (I know that's only 4 megs because I could load
most of my fonts on my 4 meg Mega STe).  Do I have to set a bit on the
programs I want to make use of Fast RAM?  How do I do that?

2)  Screen trouble(?).  My TT Medium res screen is supposed to be 640X400
16 colors, right?  Well...  mine's 640X480!  Don't ask me how!  No
graphics board; the VME slot is empty.  I have about an inch of extra
space at the bottom of my screen.  I'm not complaining..., except that the
desktop is shifted/squished a bit to the left of the white illuminated
area, making things look *slightly* skinnier.  (BTW that's NOT the source
of the extra room at the bottom of the screen; there are actually MORE
pixels!  The 640X480 only happens in TT Medium, but the shift is there in
all resolutions.)  Will a graphics board help this?  Are there any halfway
decent VME graphics boards that are less than Crazy Dots?

Thanks...

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: The REAL Falcon specs wanted!
Keywords: Falcon specs.
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:42:37 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

According to Bill Rehbock, Director of Application S/W @ Atari, the 
Falcon030 is in a light-grey case like the 1040ST's and that the
keys are a darker grey with white lettering.  I was pulling for the
black (very dark-grey) case, but I apparently lost.

Steve
From: lectro@milton.u.washington.edu (Jonathan E. Maier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Animated Icons with the Falcon030?
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:38:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep1.053812.6434
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug31.234149.21696@zooid.guild.org> Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>Animated icons with the new TOS, 256 colors as well. I can hear already IBM
>and Microsoft lawyers coming. ;-) 

After that case, they would probably then sue over the use of the
"double-click" feature. ;-)

  Jonathan E. Maier             # ## #                lectro@u.washington.edu
 -----------------------------  # ## #  --------------------------------------
  Weekend Operator             ## ## ##              University of Washington
  UCS Operations              ##  ##  ##                  Seattle, Washington
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Older ROMs ok in Mega STE ?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:15:31 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <u6X6PB2w165w@tsoft.sf-bay.org> bbs.ruscal@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Russel Mar) writes:

>I am having problems running the Hybrid Arts ADAP 1 software on a Mega 
>STE.  On a regular ST, I can zoom a window and then evelope a small 
>section of a waveform.  On a Mega STE, the window zooms back out.  I have 
>eliminated software as a varaible, and now look to the ROM routines as 
>the probable culprit.  So the question is, can I load TOS 1.x ROMS in 
>place of the 2.x ?  

As long as it's 1.6 (the only 512K 1.* TOS) I suppose. Wanna swap?

>
>Please E-Mail response direct;  I'll re-post appropriate info.
>
>Thanks!
>
>--
>Russel Mar (bbs.ruscal@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
-- 
________________________________________________________
    Annius Groenink|undergraduate student
Laan van Borgele 24|maths/computer science at the
   7415 DJ Deventer|University of Utrecht, Holland.
From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Problems with Connect and XYZ....
Date: 2 Sep 1992 23:19:02 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: It now works!

 
	Hi all!

	I just wanted to thank all those people who responded to my plea for
help with Connect and also with XYZ2.01.

	My problems with 8/none were solved by going to the "kompatibility"
menu and selecting "strip 8th bit".  Now emacs and normal terminal stuff is
very happy.

	By going to 8/none, it also solved my problem with XYZ - as a poster
noted earlier, XYZ only works with 8/none, so it now works within Connect.

	Now that XYZ works, it autosenses a zmodem download and that works
fine.

	Now all I have to do is get a screen accelerator and GDOS working, 
and my terminal stuff should be awsome (not to mention installing MiNt, but
I think that may have to wait awhile...:(  )

	I must admit though - it feels funny needing a screen accelerator
for my TT to get display speed to catch up with 14.4k (roughly) bps screen
updates.

	Again, BIG thanks to all who helped!

-Mike




Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 00:27:59 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: looking for an assembler

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 2-Sep-92 looking for an
assembler ppospis@mtroyal.ab.ca (453)

> I am looking for a PD assembler/linker/debugger.  It would be
> preferable to get an integrated entity, however, if necessary
> I am willing to consider independent programs.  Any suggestions?

> An ex-Atari ST person has indicated that there was a proprietary
> assembler product out in the 80s by Metacomco or Techstar.  Has
> anyone else used this and if so do you have the current phone/fax
> number?

> Please e-mail direct.  Thanks.

> Paul
> ppospis@mtroyal.ab.ca


Well, I don't know for the linker, but for the rest, TurboAss is
what you're looking for.

Else, you may try the gas with GDB all from GNU (with gcc and
the likes): it is much more powerful, but uses much more space
disk and memory. (and maybe less user-friendly)

Finally, just check in a.a.u.e for some others !

	Stefan Monnier

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-- On the average, people seem to be acting normal --
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Subject: Re: FALCON
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:31:10 GMT

In <1992Aug25.185043.13226@u.washington.edu> mpark@milton.u.washington.edu (Michael Park) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Strictly speaking, direct-to-disk recording doesn't even require D/A
>conversion, so this whole discussion is kinda pointless :^)
>Seriously, though, in addition to a big disk, you'll need a good
>(==expensive?) sound digitizer (I don't recall reading that the
>Falcon has 16-bit A/D on board...)

There definitely is a microphone jack at the back of the  Falcon.
It's  in  the  Falcon sheet that was available at the Atari Messe
and I saw it myself too. An Atari representative explained to  me
that all you need to digitize sound was a microphone to plug into
that jack and some software. Unfortunately, I  didn't  ask  about
technical details, but from what I heard I conclude there must be
an A/D converter of some sort already built in.

 +- Jan Kim -- X.400:    S=kim;OU=vax;O=mpiz-koeln;P=mpg;A=dbp;C=de -+
 |             Internet: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de               |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: alewis@vx9000.weber.edu (ALEWIS)
Subject: TT for sale
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 26 Aug 1992 18:39 MST  

TT with 2M RAM and 50M HD and NEC Multisync II monitor for  $1400.

E-mail  alewis@icarus.weber.edu if interested.
From: cable@crs.cl.msu.edu (Dan Cable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: what is toad's phone #
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:13:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University

ugafence@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (UB FENCING CLUB) writes:


>  Could somebody please tell me what the phone # is for toad?  Thank you..

1-800-448-8623 is for orders. 1-410-544-6943 if ya just wanna chat. You're 
welcome.

--
Dan Cable                            e-mail cable@crs.cl.msu.edu
Canton MI USA planet Earth           Compuserve 75266.353
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: New Guy, please help me!
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:50:54 GMT

C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:

> 
>Hello,  I am relativly new at the mainframe Atari ST scene, and I am wanting 
so
>me help.  things like ftp locations that have ST support, and maybe a few 
peopl
>e I can drop a line to and chat sometime.  Thanks!

The best known (and as far as I know the biggest) atari ftp-archive is
atari.archive.umich.edu. In the 'atari' directory you find tons of software.
And about chatting with fellow atariSTs: what about this newsgroup - lots of
expertise here (and, really, most of these guys are quite friendly :).

welcome to ST-land,
Hendrik Jan


--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra - Department of Philosophy
University of Utrecht - The Netherlands
USENET: hjv@phil.ruu.nl 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: d89-sla@dront.nada.kth.se (Stefan E Larsson)
Subject: Mouse Walk
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:37:22 GMT

My new mouse seems to have a will of its own:

Sometimes the pointer starts moving by itself in one direction: up,
down, left or right. 

I remember reading somewhere that this is a "classic" problem,
so I guess other people have experienced it. Does anyone know more 
about it such as a reasons, fixes, if it gets worse, if it is 
totally random or limited to specific kinds of mouses?  

(By the way, what is the preferred plural form of 'mouse'?)



-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: krakover@spot.Colorado.EDU (KRAKOVER JONATHAN DA)
Subject: For Sale:  Midi THRU BOX  (CASIO TB-1)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 06:58:21 GMT


		FOR SALE

MIDI THRU BOX  -  CASIO TB-1

-connects eight midi ports to 1 of 2 midi inputs
- has internal amplifiers
- can run off of batteries or A.C adapter

-  BEST OFFER in two weeks gets it.  I will ship UPS COD.

- contact me at (503)-666-8568, or here, however, I only log in once a week.

Jonathan
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:12943 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:4615
From: mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Michel Forget)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: ANSI/VT-100 Documentation
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:54:40 GMT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Hello.

I am looking for information on ANSI/VT-100 so that I can include it in 
the next version of ShadowTerm.  I have as yet not been able to locate 
ANY information on the subject.  I am mainly looking for a method to 
interpret the codes sent.  I can obtain a font fairly easily, but I need 
to know the codes.

(I have no access to mail-servers or FTP, so please do not respond with a 
suggestion to download the information from atari.archive or an FTP 
site...<Grin!>)

Any information would be appreciated.


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