HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: rec.moto.harley
Summary: believe it or not ...
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:23:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Jul24.230314.11199@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
+ randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
+ >In article <1992Jul24.041423.4731@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
+ 
+ >|Brucer, you need to buy another cranky, unreliable bike so we can get
+ >|some more prose out of you. I'll even volunteer to come over and drop
+ >|screws in your crankcase. :-)
+ 
+ >  No, no, no... Wasn't that Tom that *didn't* drop the screw in the crankcase?
+ 
+ Yep, you're quite right, Tom *didn't* drop the screw in Brucer's
+ crankcase. However, I'm willing to act as the scapegoat if necessary.
+ It's for a good cause isn't it?
+ -- 
+ Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
+ blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
+ Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200

	Believe it or not, the Tom himself is going to be in this
	very office working with me for the week.  If you have anything
	to say to him, say it now   :-)   (((he'll hate me for this :->  ))

	Obmoto: I saw two identical paso 750's in Louisville on friday;
	god, the things are getting as common as hondas.

-- 
    66
     >
     ^ .................. brucer "demigod of the DoD's" (DoD #0002)
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:06:54 GMT
Subject: Re: two miles from home (was Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

This may get me flamed too but...  I've noticed that most male shitty drivers
are basically assholes, and that most female shitty drivers are basically
clueless.  I'm not sure which makes me more nervous on the road.

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
----------
  Well, since you put it that way, I have to admit that a woman driver
  with a severe case of PMS would make *me* pretty nervous!

  Graeme Harrison, DoD#0649
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: wheel weights
Summary: tire balancing goo
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:57:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.160527.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
tmockler@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> Try using "Tire Balance Plus" instead of lead wheel weights. This stuff works
>extremely well. Some bike shops in the CT area are using liquid balancing
>exclusively. It costs about $7 per bottle (one wheel), and is very easy to use.

On the other hand,

  - The stuff settles to the bottom of the tire when you
    park the bike, so the wheel is out of balance until
    the tire warms up the next time you ride.

  - The pint of goo weighs more than lead balancing
    weights, increasing the bike's unsprung weight.

  - When you get a flat tire, the goo will make it
    unrepairable.

  - It costs about $7 a bottle.  Wheel weights cost
    a few cents apiece, and many kinds are reusable.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
From: ssuhouns@SUMA1.RDG.AC.UK (Paul Marshall Hounslow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Aerostich Crash Test
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:47:50 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Aerostich Crash Test
Distribution: rec

jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito) writes:
 

>This is the crash test resulting for the 1st Annual RCR crash.

You mean you're going to do this *EVERY YEAR* ;-)

Sorry couldn't resist.

Also sorry to hear about the K, I hope you get it sorted out soon, and
that you get at least as much enjoyment out of yours that I have had out of
mine.  I get it back on the road tomorrow ;-)  I hope :-)

Paranoid, of course!  Thats why I've lived for so long.



Paul

----
73's de Paul                         The smelling pistakes are all my own.
Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk  1985 K100RT                 DoD #0573
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Minimalist biking (was: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:50:41 GMT

dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:

>-> The FJ has spedo, tach, gas gauge, and idjut lights.

> You got short-changed. 

Only on brain cells!

>My XJ900 came with a clock, which is quite
>handy when your watch is buried under the sleeve of your jacket.

Yep, dunno how I forgot the clock on the FJ. It's a very handy gadget
indeed. Yamaha seems to have given it a pretty hefty backup capacitor
too. I've had the battery disconnected for a few minutes on a couple of
different occasions, and the clock kept the right time.

Another gadget that seems like it could be pretty useful is the ZX-11's
dual tripmeters.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:15:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Ducati For Sale
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Oops! They actually made a '80 900SS Ducati! I thought that the
900SS was a fairly recent model...my error so color me crimson

Graeme Harrison
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price)
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:06:41 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

>> The number of people who assert they drive better than average is
>> amazing.  Just curious, has anyone ever known any person to say, "I
>> drive worse than the average person?"  Half of us do, you know...
>> 
>i'm probably about an average driver (mixing too aggressive with  

I'm a sucky cage driver. It's too easy, and too boring; I get playful.
I'm good about other traffic, but as far as handling the machine well,
forget it. And I don't do it very much anyway.

I'm a crummy rider. Most of my skill is spent on traffic and lane position.
I don't get anywhere near the capabilities of the bike. I ride like an
old lady. Safe and fun and slow.

There. Oh, and I'm a below-average athlete, too.

Good thing I'm so much smarter than average. And better looking.

Tom

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  tp0x@cs.cmu.edu   |   Mr Ethical   |     Tom Price, Obscure Dropout
  1981 KZ440LTD     |    DoD #518    |  	  I'm the DoD.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Italian HD's in rec.mot.HD
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:01:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.205245.13397@microunity.com> jeff@MicroUnity.com (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.182727.1049@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>|> In article <sallyg.61@oregon.uoregon.edu> sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
>|> >In article <1992Jul20.195146.12030@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>
>|> >>Gee, I kinda wanted an 883 Sporty, Spousal Unit willing. I 'spoze this
>|> >>means I can't post to rec.motorcycles.harley, providing the vote passes.
>
>|> >A Harley, is a Harley, is a Harley!  You will be more than welcome!!!
>|> >
>|> >Sal
>
>|> Even the horizontal single Italian type Harleys?  I know a guy
>|> who keeps his running just to go to the local rides and piss off
>|> the regional HOG chapter... :')
>
>No body can be kept out.  If his only purpose to joining rec.moto.HD
>would be to piss people off, then no, his presence would likely be 
>less than appreciated.  If on the other hand he wants to talk about
>his Harley then bring him on in.
>
>tfk

The Italian Harley is enough to allow them to join the Harley Owners
Group!


--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: szirin@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (seth.zirin)
Subject: Roid is charged!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:12:53 GMT

A week elapsed since my complaints against the cager and I hadn't heard
anything, so I called the clerk of the court for news.  It seems that
Babe must have herself a slick lawyer because she filed multiple
complaints against meek little me.  I filed reckless driving and tailgating
charges against her for cutting me off and tailgating.  She responded
with the "abusive language" charge and also filed reckless driving and
tailgating against me!

I can't imagine what I did that would be considered reckless and I
certainly didn't tailgate because of the fear she would slam on the
brakes and I'd get wadded.  Although this is obvious to anyone that
rides, it may not be obvious to the judge that decides...

My lawyer (he rides a NightHawk) plans to postpone the original 8/12
court date because of a schedule conflict.  He thinks I'll have "fun"
with this one because each ticket is worth 5 points and she has witnesses
and I don't.  Her past driving record will not be admissible because past
behavior does not prove current behavior.  Maybe my ERC completion a month
earlier will help.

He thinks it will become a pissing match where both sides negotiate
dropping the charges.  Pretty slick.  "Drop those charges Roid or risk
10 points, insurance surcharges and fines."  She may even try hardball
since she has some girlfriends as witnesses.

A (soon-to-be) downed bro...
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:32:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <RAIBLE.92Jul22131402@wk43.nas.nasa.gov> raible@nas.nasa.gov writes:
>That's nonsense.  I occasionally touch my feet down at speed to check
>for gravel on the road, and just to get used to the sensation of my
>boots touching.
>Once you realize that a light touch is no big deal, it's a lot less
>scary when you occasionally drag the boot in a turn.

>Eric "No nickname yet" Raible

if your gonna ride in the 'yabba-dabba-do' style, perhaps

eric "barney" raible

would best apply.

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<       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   >
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<                               -- Evelyn                                  >
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From: slndw@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:21:49 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Jul23.132451.13179@hemlock.cray.com>, frankb@willow41.cray.com (Frank Barriuso) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul22.211400.28153@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>                ...I routinely come to full stops at stop signs, and start
>> up again, without my feet ever leaving the pegs at all, and with no loss
>> of directional control.  Folks, it's not hard.  Hell, it's even fun!
>>
> 
>   Someone once told me that the cops have an easy time deciding whether or
> not a motorcycle has come to a complete stop at a stop sign. If the rider
> had to put their feet down to keep from falling over then they did, if not
> then they didn't.  Is there any validity to this?
> 
>       Frank
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Frank Barriuso
> Cray Research, Inc.
> Multiprocessing Software Section
> 655F Lone Oak Drive                  ARPA: frankb@cray.com
> Eagan, MN 55121                      UUCP: uunet!cray!frankb
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------



When I took my motorcycle road test (in Georgia) the
tester told me "I am supposed to fail you"
I aske "Why?"
He said "You didn't put your foot down at the stop sign"

He passed me anyhow because it was the only screw up I made
(he gave me the lowest possible grade).  When I ride my
bicycle, I can stop at a stoplight and _NOT_ remove my
feet from my toe clips.  In fact, at a road destruction
site, the guy with the slow/stop sign asked me "how long
can you stay up like that?"
I said "How long are you going to keep me here?"

To be sure, it is much more difficult to keep a motorcycle
(much heavier) upright at stop for that long, it can
be done for short periods.

However... you _CAN_ get a ticket for not putting your foot
down.  Funny thing is, it is possible to touch your foot
to the ground while still traveling 
forward.

So the validity is this...  You don't have to put your foot
down to "stop" (of course nothing ever stops completely
except at 0 kelvin), but it is advisable to keep
your insurance rates down!

-Tootarat
USU Watershed Science
750 Shadow
From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:52:58 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In article <+tfmna-.edg@netcom.com> edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.200402.2792@news.columbia.edu> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>>	Consumer Reports rated emergency lights/flares/triangles recently and 
>>	found that those big emergency triangles were by far the best. Much
>
>One big downside about triangles is that you have to pick them up.
>This means you can't stop at a scene, light up the scene, and leave
>after things are secure.    Flares, at least, are disposable.  

Has anyone seen these flares for sale in the UK?  

(The fireworks ... not the flares you get in Oxfam)


Andrew  Henry
bspahh@uk.ac.bath.gdr
From: ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Minimalist biking (was: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:14:14 GMT
	<154dacINNh6@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,

[ed asks what gauges/lights you need on a bike]

A tach is nice, almost a need.
temp guage is needed (esp. water cooled bikes)
oil pressure gauage/light (4 strokes)

That's it.  Maybe a horn in addition.  You want to keep down the
amount of stuff you need to strip before it's track ready.  Speedo's
are pretty much useless.  The speedo on my RZ isn't working, and I
found that it didn't bother me at all, I never really look at the
speedo anyway.

Psycho fuel guages, clocks, 8-zillion idiot lights, tape players,
cb's, reverse, etc, etc do NOT belong on real (tm) bikes.  Now, keep
in mind that I don't consider the yaught-bikes "real bikes" and would
want all that if I were to cross the US on one...

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Announcing the...

           !!! LASZLO's KIDNEY YOU LOVE TO HATE RAFFLE !!!

Once again, for those of you that missed it the first 50 times, here is a 
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jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
I'm OK, you're inflatable.  
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:36:41 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
	<1992Jul20.210331.3012@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>

>Maybe you ought to learn more about the Harley culture before voting against
>the subgroup this time...
> 
>- Roid

1.  see my reply to Lawrence Clark under this subject line.

2.  i would not vote against the subgroup. while
netnews.rec.motorcycles.harley was in existence i read it faithfully. 
it was full of really good stuff unique to harleys of all kinds.  i
receive the regular postings from harley-request@Thinkage.On.CA which is
addressed to the  hogaholics@Thinkage.On.CAit mailing list, so i guess i
am a hogaholic.  a number of people, i noticed, posted on both
nets--general m'cycle things to r.m., harley thingsg to r.m.h.  this
makes very good sense to me.

thing is, i don't know how to vote.  would you care to come out of your
usually negative shell and post something constructive for once?  thanks.

-peter

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From: zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Confirmation of what we already knew
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:52:26 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:


>-> From the report of the Victorian Social Development Committee
>-> on Motorcycle Safety *

> What the fuck do *they* know?

Don't bad mouth them - they're on *our* side!



>->      - Likely to label motorcycle riders as deviant; andd

> From the country which brought us "Mad Max" and "The Road Warrior?"
>I thought *all* Australians drove like that?

Yes, but maybe they are referring to all the leather?

>->      - Ignorant of the opinions of motorcycle riders

> Well, I don't care for deviants either.

And having a XJ900 turbo isn't deviant?  
-- 
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     Adelaide City Council       |  - you merely have the privilege 
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From: loki@nazgul.physics.mcgill.ca (Loki Jorgenson)
Subject: Renting in Scotland/(Europe)
Organization: Centre for the Physics of Materials
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:33:46 GMT

	I will be in Edinburgh, Scotland for three months, starting January.
Subsequently, I will be in Marsielles, France for a few days for a seminar
before returning to the then-thawing Canadian frontier (any place you can't
drive 12 months of the year is a frontier IMHO).

	My question(s) is this:

	What is the possiblity that I might be able to rent (gulp, buy?)
a bike in Scotland and then actually enjoy riding it around in the dead
of winter?  Rental companies?  Insurance?

	What about making some or all of the trip to/from Marsielles?
Rent in England, ferry across, drive?  Rental companies?  Insurance?

	Anybody want that I should go pick up their beemer for them
at the factory? :o)

	I recall a list of rental companies 'round the world being
sent out sometime last month.  I thought that I kept a copy (I guess
not).  If someone has a copy that they can send me ....
Note that I don't have major cash to outlay (I'm still a student,
don't you know).  Thanks for the tips (and the use of your new beemer)...

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Reasonable highway displacment 
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:26:23 GMT

In article <21754@sybase.sybase.com> leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster) writes:
>Yah, well, you gotta point there.  It was an unashamed pure soapbox
>rant.  So here's a topic that's apt to generate as many flam - er,
>opinions, and IS about bikes.
>
>What do you all consider the minimum reasonable displacement for highway
>riding?
>
>- Leigh Ann


Well I dunno about anything smaller, but 
before I got my Duc i used to ride my Yamaha
SRX250 (4 valve 4 stroke single, 17hp, 300lbs)
on the highway.  I have even taken it on a 350 mile
weekend two-up trip using highway roads.  It will
cruise all day at 80+ mph without a problem.

Of course at those speeds I'm using up 7500-8000rpm of 
a 9000rpm redline so I wouldn't want to take bets on how 
long the engine will last :-) :-)

Steve


-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want 2B DoD #1428
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:40:33 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>>I would like to be ordained as Do #1428.
>>Keeper of the List, Hear my prayers.

>Ok folks, lets do this right. The line forms to the right, single file
>please (don't want to get anyone caught in a cross-flame).

Careful folks, remember what happened last time I sparked this baby
up... 

Lessee..... "Ignite"... ffaaaWHUMP!! (Ahhh that's it...) Now, "light
toast? naaaw.. "Singe?" yes, I think that's about right... remember
Pooder...

*Snarl* You *&%#&%@! NEWBIES!!! Can't you *READ*?!?!? Go back, look
at the FAQ, or at least lurk for a while before you trip over yourself
being such a *JOINER*!!! Fer Chrissake, you don't even know what sort
of a life sentance you're letting yourself in for!!!

Sssssssssttt *POP*... Hmmm a little rich still. Did anyone get hurt??


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