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From: Liza_Weissler@rand.ORG (Liza Weissler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Marching in the Michigan Band
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:54:18 GMT
Organization: The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, California

In article <ShT=jG#@engin.umich.edu>, raistlin@macavity.engin.umich.edu (Douglas Treder ) writes:
>  Highstepping and playing at the same time is a true art, and
>  one that is learned through a lot of bruises, cuts and 
>  splinters if you play an instrument with a reed.

I'll say.  The director of the USC Band is a Michigan alum and presumably
he tried to import the UM marching style to USC.  I think the USC band
did a reasonable job of the style, oh, for a few years there in the
mid-70's.  :-)  But then I saw the Michigan band in person at the
Rose Bowl (1980? methinks...it was a year we didn't go and I worked there
as an usher instead) and they were pretty awesome.


        ---  __o          Liza Weissler
     ----  _`\<,_         The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, CA
      --- (*)/ (*)        liza@rand.org
			  Piccolo, 'SC Band 1977-1981
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From: twomblyk@next01csc.wam.umd.edu (Kristian Twombly)
Subject: Re:Cheezeleaders
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:59:58 GMT

We have a rich tradition of *bad* cheerleaders here at the U of Maryland  
as well...We have an announcer (as most schools do nowadays) that leads  
cheers (hence - a cheerleader in disguise) and last years installment,  
while spelling out T-E-R-P-S, spelled T-R-E-P-S...This went on for a few  
minutes...
We also have control of them..In Pep Band, we always start some cheer that  
*we* make up..The cheerleaders catch on, and do a little routine...THEN we  
always yell (really LOUD) "LET'S GO!!!!"...Let's go!!! is actaully the  
ending for 99% of ALL cheers...This ALWAYS causes them to stop...

Kristian "Waldo" Twombly
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: greetings all
From: bthomas@dumaine.gac.edu (Barbara L Thomas)
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:08:38 -0600

In article <1992Dec14.023223.15766@Virginia.EDU>  writes:
> Funny you mention it, but a guy asked us to propose for him in
> the middle of the game.  We were already to, but then he
> chickened out.  What we had come up with was to do the standard
> proposal, "I love you, blah blah, mush, mush, mush", but close
> with.. "Remember the deal, Bob.  She says yes and WE get to keep
> the first kid."
> 
> 	Mick Stone

A good friend of mine proposed to his girlfriend during a show.  He's in  
Minnesota Brass and had an in with the announcer so after a very clever  
ruse to get her out of the stands and on to the field, the announcer then  
explained the ruse and the real reason she had been called to the  
audience.  She said, "yes," but if you were close enough, I think you also  
were able to overhear, "I'm never going to forgive you for this."  :)

--
Barbara L. Thomas
"The World may never know."
bthomas@nic.gac.edu
From: swain@aludra.usc.edu (Ronnie Swain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley) Band)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:34:27 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Oh, and you guys are any better.  Whenever we visit your stadium, we always get
pelted with some food object.  Let's face it, neither school's like each other
very much, and the bands, even less.  So don't expext us to make like we're
friends when we're out there on the field.  Only when (not gonna happen) both
schools respect each other (yeah, right) will our supposed arrogance disappear.
You might be interested to know that we consider you people as arrogant as you 
probably consider ourselves.  BTW, calling the marching band arrogant is a
compliment to us so, Thank you! :-)

Ronnie Swain
swain@scf.usc.edu
Trojans Rule!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: curtis@sporty.col.oh.us (Curtis Hunter)
Subject: Re: Indoor drumlines and guards
Organization: J.A. Anderson & Company, Columbus, OH US
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:52:42 GMT

In article <1g9dpcINNk3f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cf123@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher Leigh Putnam) writes:
>
>Well, if you mean winter guard competitions, then I am SURE there
>are some in Ohio.  You'd have to ask around a bit, but you can
>find 'em.  Probably starting in February or so, and continuing through
>March.  A group called Winter Guard International (WGI) is the main
>governing body for winter guard competitions aon a national or
>international scale.  They hold their Championships on the first
>weekend in April in Dayton, Ohio.  This is a must see for any
>guard oriented or musically inclined person.
>
>If you want more info on WGI, I'd be happy to give it to you, or
>put you in contact with someone who can.  Just email me.
>
>Star in '93????????
>Baritone
>-- 
>Please send all mail to cputnam@vax1.umkc.edu
>
>IRC nick-BlueDevil         FurryMuck name-WolfBlitzer
>

  Yes, there are several winter guard show around Ohio.  They run from
January up through championships April 4-6.  I will be posting the
contest schedule for OCGC (Ohio Color Guard Circuit) sometime this week.
It you want more info, email me or check out r.a.m.drumcorps or
alt.colorguard.

______________________________________________________________________________
|                                          |                                  |
|  Curtis Hunter                           |  curtis@sporty.col.oh.us         | 
|  Columbus, OH                            |  hch@oclc.org                    |
|  B4.5 w- cd g+ k+ s+ e r+ m              |  CIS  76040,2605                 |
|__________________________________________|__________________________________|
From: swain@aludra.usc.edu (Ronnie Swain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Section rivalries
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:13:07 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

"Fight On!" uses more than two cords.  You obviously must be refering to 
"Tribute to Troy."  We love that song!

dum da da da da dum dum da da dum da da da da da dum dum da da da-a-a-!

Fight On!

Ronnie Swain
swain@scf.usc.edu
Trojans Rule!

Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: WHFELT01@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Bill Felty)
Subject: I don't wanna post WGI here
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:52:59 GMT

Sorry, I don't want to be difficult but I don't think it's fair for me to have
to sort through 90, that's 90 posts on college bands this morning to get to
the WGI posts in which I'm interested!  Everyone keeps saying the WGI posts are
few.  Of course!!!  Who want to wade though tons of stuff they don't care about
to get to the things they do.  At least when I'm searching through DCI posts,
it's related and I read them!!!!  And marching.misc posts outnumber the DCI
list about 3 to 1.
 
I don't want to "wait it out" to see what happens.  In fact, I'm unsubscribing
from the marching.misc list ASAP!  I'll continue to look at the drumcorps list
and hope that other WGI folks find a welcome home there.
 
When alt.colorguard existed, low traffic or not, there was not this problem.
Knowing all this, I wish I could go back and change my vote.  Until all this
is corrected, I'll still feel that WGI got the shaft.  Sorry, just being honest
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly)
Subject: Re: Marching Bands
Keywords: Marching
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:54:33 GMT

knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites) writes:
If you want entertainment, come watch the ISUCF"V"MB play some great music and
a drill that moves!

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Gee, I wish I were in a band that swings their feet out and goes "Whoop,
Whoop" all the time.

And I don't want to start a flame war, just because they get tiresome, but
I will say that I like ISU's band better than some others which I won't
mention *cough*WISCONSIN*cough*
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: raistlin@macavity.engin.umich.edu (Douglas Treder )
Subject: Marching in the Michigan Band
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:04:54 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: raistlin@macavity.engin.umich.edu


This was given to me (Tenor Sax Section Leader, U of Mich
Marching Band) by one of my members:


 
 Highstepping and playing at the same time is a true art, and
 one that is learned through a lot of bruises, cuts and 
 splinters if you play an instrument with a reed.  I think what 
 Doug is referring to is the fact the the MMB seems to be in 
 the best shape of any band I've seen (granted, I've never seen
 Florida A & M) mostly because if you want to march and play in the 
 performance block, you have to be in pretty good shape.  I also
 performed the 1990 UM vs UI game, and I remember thinking that the
 Illini band was pretty good, but just like most other Big Ten bands,
 we're pretty high on ourselves.  After all, we have the privledge
 of playing "The Victors"  ("The greatest college march ever written"
 -John P. Sousa), doing pregame at the Big House, and an almost annual
 Rose Bowl trip.  I will say though, that the self satisfaction is
 a result of placing and meeting goals of perfection in rehersal and
 performance.  If you made the trip to Ann Arbor in 1990, you're probably
 a junior or senior by now, so good luck, and be sure to watch us
 on January 1st
 
 -Rohit Bery 
  Tenor Saxaphone
  Michigan Marching Band
 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: hbawl@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (Wilber L. Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Presidential Inauguration Parade
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:08:01 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <Bz5rKM.BzA@nic.umass.edu> jthomson@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John A Thomson) writes:
>Hi!  Just a curious question to all:  Has anyone out there ever marched in the
>Presidential Inauguration?  The UMMB has a chance at going - they've been
>before, but I wasn't in school.  What's it like?  It should be one of the most
>incredible parades ever!

   Yep,    I marched in George Bush's Inauguration Parade with the Texas
   A&M Band.....the Univ.of Texas Band was there too....sort of a 
   'TEXAS' theme that year don'cha know...

   It was pretty neet to go roaming around DC and Maryland (where our
   hotel was) on the preceeding two days.... standard tours...
   Smithsonian Museums...   The weather was great the first two days....
   all you needed was a good jacket.   Then, the day of the parade,
   it dropped 20 degrees F.  We stood around in the F*CK*NG cold for
   nearly 8 hours while the groups got in line and Secret Service walked
   around looking...   The actual parade wasn't that bad (except for cold)
   and the photographers (std media and our own) got some AWESOME
   pictures of us marching up Pennsylvania Ave. with the Capital Bldg
   in the background.

   Any Longhorns care to comment....back me up on that weather thing??

>
>-John
>
>Epsilon Nu - Kappa Kappa Psi says hello!


-Wilber L. Baker              hbawl@[usmi02.]midland.chevron.com
    UNIX/VAX                Chevron Petroleum Technology Company
     Admin.                Midland, TX   79705    (915) 687-7241
From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: cheerleaders: kill them or just disembowel?
Followup-To: rec.arts.marching.misc
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:21:14 GMT
Organization: Systems Support Center, BCM
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: j.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Dec15.031629.186@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford) wrote:
> 
> I just want to hear how people from other bands get along with their
> cheerleading squads.[bunch more stuff...]

At Rice the cheerleaders used to be fairly strange and thoroughly
enjoyable.  Not anymore.  They used to be voted upon by the students, but
not anymore.  They're very athletic and reasonably attractive and we might
as well have eight mice squeaking out cheers.  No one pays any attention to
them - as far as cheering goes.  The MOB used to do most of the cheers that
were heard, and I was leading them for many years until my tolerance for
personal embarrassment diminished below the threshhold.  We had some pretty
ridiculous cheers and some that were an awful lot of fun.

embarrassing:  Oatmeal, oatmeal, salt and butter too
               All for the Rice Owls hold up your shoe!

Fun:  the spellout cheer (letter by letter) T-H-E W-I-L-L-I-A-M M-A-R-S-H 
R-I-C-E I-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-E F-O-R T-H-E A-D-V-A-N-C-E-M-E-N-T O-F
L-E-T-T-E-R-S S-C-I-E-N-C-E A-N-D A-R-T . (period)

The football team has been doing too well to possibly distract them with
our usual ridiculous cheers - ain't it a shame...

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu) MOBster
Systems Support Center -- Baylor College of Medicine
INTERNET: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu  | VOICE: (713)798-7370
 US MAIL:  One Baylor Plaza, Houston, Texas  77030
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford)
Subject: Re: The Ocean of Soul
Keywords: (remember distribution usa)
Organization: none whatsoever
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 07:09:34 GMT

In article <uh oh> chinchilla!niel@cars.com writes:

>Heard this morning on NPR:
>
>The Texas Southern University Ocean of Soul has been disbanded.  Some
>dozen members were caught shop-lifting in Japan whileli they were
>there playing for the Coca-Cola bowl.

So now what do we do?  You've probably seen my previous post.
Individuals should be punished, and MAYBE the band itself, but
disbanding seems ludicrous.  As I've said, I've seen one too many
bands cut entirely (usually for budget reasons, but any excuse will
do) and it would be nice if we could DO something.  Any suggestions?
Perhaps a nationwide band boycott of TSU?  Dunno.  Let's throw around
some ideas.

Scott
-- 
Scott Stanford                 |)  Eenie meenie miney moe.
stanford@leland.stanford.edu  /|   Catch a tiger by the toe.
                             ((|,) If he hollers...yeah whatEVER.
"MORE Doctah Peppah!!"        ~|~  He's EATIN' your ass.  Run, you idiot.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Subject: Re: Marching Bands
Keywords: Marching
Reply-To: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:04:29 GMT

In article <Bz667z.G66@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, kab33254@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hard Harry
) writes:
> dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly) writes:
> 
> >And I don't want to start a flame war, just because they get tiresome, but
> >I will say that I like ISU's band better than some others which I won't
> >mention *cough*WISCONSIN*cough*
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Yep, how in the hell can you stand to play with a 
> band that simply blares as loud as possible yet
> sounds like crap?  I saw them in october and just
> couldn't believe their sound.  It bordered on
> painful.  But, their crowd seems to enjoy it!?
> It was amazing the way our pregame got booed there,
> though.  We played with a little taste and style
> yet they didn't seem to like it...kinda strange.
> 
> Kevin Butler - MI SAXES
> -- 
> {----------------------------------------------------------}
> {        .. __o     Kevin A. Butler                        }   
> {      ... -\<,     kab33254@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu              }                 
> {___.....(_)/(_).._________________________________________}

That is a typical Wisconsin Cheese-Head attitude for you.  They love loud and
obnoxious up there.

Happy Holidays and good luck on Finals!
Andy Combites
ISUCF"V"MB T-Bone
From: KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Joe Paterno
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:02:20 GMT
 <92351.175859KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <14937@cis.rand.org>

In article <14937@cis.rand.org>, Liza_Weissler@rand.ORG (Liza Weissler) says:

>Hey, good ol' Joe was a jerk at the 1981 Fiesta Bowl, too.  Good to see
>some things don't change.

How so?  Just curious.
(Just so you know, there's now a warrant out for the death of anyone who
 dares blaspheme the Great JoePa.  Just so you know how we PennStaters feel
 about it... :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: twomblyk@next12csc.wam.umd.edu (Kristian Twombly)
Subject: Virgina
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:51:13 GMT


Hee Hee...

So,
It boils down to THAT, does it?

Well...I'm sure that the Wah-Hoos are good (for that level)
But you just can't get up to The Mighty Sound Of Maryland's level.
_WE_ got a standing O at FSU this year....
_YOU_ can come to our school anytime you want.....
(we need a good laugh now and then)

A wet-willie back at you,
Kristian "Waldo" Twombly

P.S. - If anal-rot is a problem, you should look in the mirror!

*giggle*
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Presidential Inauguration Parade
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:17:55 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

>jthomson@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John A Thomson) writes:
>Hi!  Just a curious question to all:  Has anyone out there ever marched in the
>Presidential Inauguration?  The UMMB has a chance at going - they've been
>before, but I wasn't in school.  What's it like?  It should be one of the most
>incredible parades ever!

We sent a couple of people to the 1984 Inauguration (I couldn't make it,
unfortunately). One of the tuba players told me his valves froze solid just
getting to the bus.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: 1993 WGI REGIONALS
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:16:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



Here are the WGI Regionals for 1993:


   January 30/31    New England           Salem, MA

   February 6       European              [call WGI office]
   February 6/7     Mid- South            Nashville, TN

   February 13/14   Atlantic Coast        Emmaus, PA
   February 13      South Florida         Pompano Beach, FL
   February 13      Great Plains          Kansas City, MO

   February 20/21   Midwest               OakLawn, IL
   February 20/21   So. California        Riverside, CA

   February 27      Southwest             Houston, TX
   February 27      Canadian              Quebec, CA
   February 27      Northwest             Ferndale, WA

   March 6          South                 Pensacola, FL
   March 6          Rocky Mountain        Greenwood Village, CO
   March 6/7        Northeast             Liverpool, NY

   March 13/14      Mideast               Centerville, OH
   March 13/14      Mid-Atlantic          Downington, PA
   March 13/14      West                  San Jose, CA

   April 2/3/4      WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP    Dayton, OH


If anyone would like the phone number(s) for a regional, let me know,
either post of e-mail.


                                Ken


    dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: sasmith@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Four)
Subject: Re: Piccolo's or so :-)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:47:58 EST

In article <1992Dec9.70650.27594@ms.uky.edu> wills@nx06.mik.uky.edu (will s young) writes:
>Ok, asking about something to do with people who play piccolos on here.   
>Most of the time, marching bands would rather have piccolo players than  
>flute players right? (Wanting to know this since I don't know this because  
>of lack of membership in a marching band group).  I know that lots of them  
>use metal piccolos (which sound more or less like a cat was drugged threw  
>a fence against its will) but what I am wanting to know is about plastic  
>piccolos also.  Anyone on here ever played one?  How do you like it and  
>how does it compare to a wooden piccolo?
>
>Will
>Young
>
>wills@mik.uky.edu
>
>
>
Okay, so, you want to know about a piccolo player....weeeellll....that's
where I'm coming from.  I'm actually a new tuba player...yeah that's me..
but, I did march piccolo and I still play it in the Sour Sitrus Society, the
Su basketball pep band!

Okay, I march a silver piccolo, but I've experimented with the wooden
ones.  I personally like the metal ones because of the ability to get out
the higher pitch notes--of course, it seems impossible to tune them, BUT,
sometimes you just have to hit those high notes to annoy the silly 
trumpets!  Yes, you heard me right SILLY TRUMPETS!!!!  Yes, here at SU
they are silly....well...that's the nicest adjective for them!  Silly
silly trumpets.  Okay, don't kill me.  But!!!!  About piccs, I also like
the feel of the silver ones....the tend to keep their pads in longer 
and don't tend to fall apart as quickly...of course, there are advantages
to wooden ones...obviously..price and, especially up here, march over and
then running into the Dome (carrier that is) will simple cool down and change
the pitch of a metal one faster than anything.  But hey, I have had
my piccolo for 5 years, and, like with my flute, and maybe other instruments,
you develop a relationship and attitude with it, and that's why I wouldn't
give mine up.  But anyway...that's my feeling....anyone else???

From the piccolo in the snow....

Sally Smith

sasmith@mailbox.syr.edu
From: timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: College/HS Marching Band Quickie Survey
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:21:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec11.232601.8651@leland.Stanford.EDU> aelman@cs.stanford.edu writes:
>lsjumb@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stanford Band) writes:

>: OK, hold on a sec - this could be a big disorganized netmess.  Tim
>: Castro at Berkeley seems to be making a list of bands and their
>: marching style; perhaps it would be best to email (not post) responses
>: to him (but let's get the go-ahead from him first, since this could be
>: a time-consuming task depending on how much info goes in).  He would
>: post the results later.

E-mail is just fine for me.  I just thought that we all would like
to get a sense of the different styles performed by the bands represented
on this group.  I'm actually asking for 1) my own curiousity and
2) a history project I'm doing for my band.

Seems like Donald and I are interested in similar things and that we
sent off our surveys at the same time.  Obviously his is far more thorough
than mine.  I'm just looking for short one-line definitions.

Donald, I'm more than willing to send you the information that people
have e-mail me.  So that work isn't doubled, I suggest that people answer
Donald's survey, and then he could you either post or upload the
responses to a ftp site.  How does that sound?

>/afs/ir.stanford.edu/users/l/lsjumb/Public
>
>To sum up:  Right now, LSJUMB public directory available via AFS.
>	    Near future, LSJUMB public directory available via Gopher
>(hopefully).
>	    For various reasons, anonymous FTP access here unlikely
>for near future.
>

I think this is a great idea.  Too bad we can't get to it
via anonymous ftp, but the gopher might be okay for the time
being (Never heard of AFS).  Anybody out there want to volunteer
a ftp site?

I'll be more than happy to send my responses to Stanford so they
can be included on the archive.

>Adam Elman
>LSJUMB Bonz Roolz
>aelman@cs.stanford.edu

--Tim
Cal Band '86-'90


-- 
Tim Castro		    *   "When the air becomes uranious
U.C. Berkeley               *    We will all go simultaneous
timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU      *    Yes we all will go together when we go." 
timc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU       *           --Tom Lehrer, 1958