From: uajg@pool.sunyit.edu (Andrew Germaine)
Subject: Very Little Dead content, cops harrass youths.
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:12:06 GMT


I felt compelled to post abot this cause it just pisses me off and the fact
that at the time I was wearing a "dead" shirt may not have helped...

See, last night myself and 2 friends were riding our mountain bikes
on the trails in the woods by our house...
when it started getting dark we took to the streets for a while and
stopped at a corner to rest and drink from our water bottles...
(what corner i could not tell you, i wasnt looking and wasnt familiar
with that section of my neighborhood)...
wel my friend noticed a bunh of eople sorta standing around in the dark on
a corner so he rode by to look and just came back to us, then he and my other
friend were riding around in circles waiting for us when a man appeared in the shadows, a large man smoking a cigarette, and said "nice shot huh?" to me...
i went a bit closer to him and said "what are you talking about?" and when we
started approaching me, seemingly upset at something,we just rode away...
we went to a park not more than 2 blocks from any of our homes.
10 minutes later unmarked cops come in, call us over. harass us a bit,
search for something, and tell us its cool, we`'re not "them".. them is
 a bunch of kids, 3 on 10-speeds who reportedly shot out some car
windows with a b.b. gun....
after the cops left us, we realized that the man asking us "nice shot"
probably thought WE were the ones who did it, since the undercover cops
mentioned a corner which could have been where we were...
we were satisfied to have realized what the man meant and didnt think
anything of it. we hadnt done anything and the undercover cops
seemed to know it. not more than 5 minutes later a regular police cruiser
comes in with his lights a shinin and calls us over to the car,
off the bikes, and hands on the hood.. frisk.. attitude... rudeness..
the usual. then he tells us. "3 guys fitting your description just 
shout out some car windows with a b.b. gun".. we told him the other
cop already talked to us.. we had no gun.. w lived 2 blocks away.. blah blah..
he didnt care. in somes another cruiser with a large scary looking man/
he gets out of the car and charges towards us ready to beat us up.
cops relax hinm, we shit our opants. the cops believe him not us.
they search the fied (its 11pm by now).. find nothing but are convinced
we ditched our gun. "what gun?"...
then he sees my shirt. "oh you follow the dead?" and quite happily i admit
"yes, as much as i can" when he returns with "yeah so do we, on a regular basis" real sarcasticly.. then isee the steelie on the back of his unmarked police
car. i get nautious. then he opens my bike sack and confiscates my empty
pipe after giving me a speech on how when im 35 i wont be able to
remember anything... this didnt help matters.
so after an hour of burning my hands on the police car hood and
lots of questions they take the mans statement and arrest my friend cause
he fit the description. no gun, no other witnesses besides this man,
no skateboard (which he said my other friend had) and no motive..
wel hes out now eithe ron bail or with a ticket, i dot know which...
and it seems, unfairly, that he will simply pay for a broken window
rather than pay court fees and lawyer fees to prove his innocence..

moral of the story?

So much for the "innocent until proven guilty" theme of our legal system...
and so much for feeling safe in your own neighborhood...

oh, and of course before leaving, the arresting officer came up to me and
said "dont fuck with us.. remember i still have this pipe of yours. we know whats goin on here... we know you did it"
hows that for injustice?
i simply said to him "though its not admittable in a court, i wish i could
take a polygraph right now to end this whole thing" and said to him
"peace..."

Those wondering, these are Nassau County police on long island...
the same wonderful cops from nassau coliseum shows...

sorry for rambling. i had to get this out and share an injustice of the
system... look out for yourselves brothers and sisters...


-- 
Andrew Germaine                      -=<*>=-                     uajg@sunyit.edu
                  SUNY Institute of Technology, Utica NY 13502
               "If You Get Confused, Listen To The Music Play...."
"I believe in a long,prolonged derangement of the senses to obtain the unknown."
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