HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: c188-cr@po.berkeley.edu (Chua Hak Lien)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: BAH! HUMBUG!
Date: 16 Oct 1992 13:47:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: po.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct13.152753.5779@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c188-cr@po.berkeley.edu (Chua Hak Lien) writes:
>
>"Even harder to believe, my neighbours are playing Frank Sinatra Christmas
>songs at 7:00 in the morning. They're at 'I'll be home for Christmas' now
>....", says a very tired C.
>
>C
>+
>
* SOB * 
"They're doing it again. Yesterday, it was the Carpenters.. ( "Such a
feewing comin' over me, there is wonder is most everything I see, not 
a cloud in the sky, not a tear in my eye.. " etc PUKE PUKE PUKE Skin
crawling muzik.... ), right now it's Sinatra again! Silent Night,
would u believe it???? Played so loud the walls are shaking...."
* SOB *

C
+
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Colorful Phrases
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:15:27 GMT

     "Hmmm. Here a few i have heard:

           'The lights are on, but nobody is at home.'

           'His elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.'

           'His tool box has alot of pictures, but nothing usable.'

     I think thats all of the ones I know. Later, " DJ.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Callahan's is for everyone
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:22:41 GMT


aahz quoting doug:

>>
>>My point is that for some types of problems, callahans is not
>>only useless, but it is counterproductive, as it can tend to lead
>>to obsessive behavior and avoidance of solutions that might really
>>help.
>>
>>People, keep your perspective, and admit to yourselves that callahans
>>is not qualified to be a hospital for emotionally disordered 
>>people.

aahz:

>I'll agree with what you've said, as far as it goes.  However, "peer
>counseling" is a highly effective form of therapy.  The various 12-step
>programs rely on this technique.

>Because the Net forces a certain amount of detachment (in most people),
>I believe that in many ways alt.callahans is better suited for dealing
>with people's problems than a face-to-face peer counseling group.
>There's a flip side, of course, in that we can't *see* if someone is
>physically ill or something like that.

>I think that in general we speak correctly, when we call a.c a *support* 
>group -- we do very well at that, but we're not qualified to do more.
>-- 

kitten:

in all seriousness, i must agree with both aahz and doug...there are
some things that can only be helped by professional assistance...(my
year long bout of pms and assorted problems is now being correctly
treated.  the pms was in actuality clinical depression and (non)
hypoglycemia. i am eating properly (most of the time) and taking an
anti-depressant.  it works.

however, i became a regular in callahans shortly after i realized that
12 step was NOT going to work for me...and i have found, in callahans,
what i did not find in a "recovery" group.  

so, six of one -- half dozen of another...

i am just grateful for the Place...and the shared joy and pain...

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders)
Subject: Re: great land
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:25:09 GMT

u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders) writes:

>aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey) writes:

>>Jennifer A Cabbage (fsjac3@cthor.acf-lab.alaska.edu) wrote:
>>: A figure appears out of nowhere, momentarily obscured by swirling snow. A  
>>: blast of bitter wind rips through the Place and vanishes in the blink of  
>>: an eye.
>>:     Patch stomps her feet and shakes the snow out of her hair.
>>: "Well, hello.  I guess I'm another 'lurker', come to light.
>>: "Are there any other lurkers out there from Alaska ?"

>>Alfvaen bounces up to Patch.  "Hello there!  Can't reckon as I've seen any
>>Alaskans here afore.  At least, none of them came to light a while ago when
>>Damien arrived(our current Southernmost Callahanian)and the discussion of the
>>other cardinal points arose.  Because you are, without a doubt, now the
>>Northernmost Patron in the Bar!  And maybe even the Westernmost North American
>>Patron.
>HELLO PATCH (I had better shout so that what I say gets to the northern reaches)Welcome to the place.
>Mike give Patch her next drink on me.
>Now a long distance hug from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia.
>Alfvaen did say that I was the southernmost member of the bar.
Quoting myself is silly but I think I didn't change the distruibution for
this post.
Appologies,
Damien.
--
"The best defence against the atom bomb is not to be there when it goes off."
                British Army Journal 1949
Damien Saunders (Gunnar Njalsson SCA) Email:u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au
From: rcb33483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ArchTeryx)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Coming in for a landing, ArchTeryx!
Date: 11 Oct 92 15:22:02 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra)) writes:


><And as Archteryx gapes at the bevy of beauties on that side, Thyra and
>several of the other women in the Place pounce on him from behind, with
>more hugs.>

ArchTeryx gigglewarbles.  Gapes?  He's seen enough mammals to be used to
them by now.  Only thing he gapes at these days is his bloodmate SynTeryx,
and that just to keep her happy. :>

>"Happy Birthday Archteryx!", giggles Thyra. "Congrats on your big 21st!
>Even if we are a bit late." <and she gives him a quick kiss on the side of
>his beak.>

ArchTeryx awwwws and blushes a rather pretty lavender about the cheeks (yes
he has cheeks) and neck.  He nibblekisses Thyra back gently.  "Thank you!
It's never too late to say you remember..."

><Jason and several of the men in the bar also come forward to offer their
>congratulations.>

>"Happy Birthday Archeterix!" says Jason. "When I had my 21st, I was in the
>Navy, several hundred miles from shore in the middle of the Atlantic ocean.
>No way to party there. When we finally hit land, it was in a state where
>the legal age was 18. I didn't really get to appreciate turning 21 for
>another month or two, when we hit port in a different state. Normally I
>offer a birthday person a bottle of their favorite potent beverage, or at
>least a drink, for a 21st birthday. But given your past comments about how
>alcohol affests you, and the more recent comment about the barrage of
>peanuts, can I buy you something to eat, rather than a drink?"

>Thyra and
>Jason

"Actually, once in a while I do enjoy an alcoholic beverage.  But right now,
you are correct, I am quite hungry.  The peanuts helped a little but I am
a rather large bird.

"I can eat just about anything, even garbage.." [this draws a dirty look from
Mike and a giggle from Arch, who then continues], "So whatever you want to 
buy me, I'll probably find quite edible.  Thank you for the kind offer!"

ArchTeryx sits near the group assembled around to him, a beaky smile on his
face, as he gets ready for a decent meal.

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R. Cody Buchmann                             ^.^  
  "ArchTeryx"                          "Of *course* I understand you--I speak 
email: rcb33483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu       1406 intergalactic avian dialects!"  
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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <keulen.718894975@possum>, keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen) writes:
>Wow ... maybe Texans are closer to Aussies than other Americans ...

Well, sure they are.  They're further south.
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Problems of Recognition (was Re: Words)
Date: 15 Oct 1992 03:50:10 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct14.211800.25085@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum) writes:
>Since my family is rather a bright bunch, active, healthy, and a bit crazy in
>a nice way, I also think the genetic mix has been favorable--

StM suggests, "Hybrid vigor?   It's a well-known (though, to the best of my
knowledge, unexplained) phenomenon."
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum)
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Reply-To: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:46:02 GMT

STEREOTYPE ALERT---STEREOTYPE ALERT---STEREOTYPE ALERT------

Please note that both the Troll and the Dragon Lady scramble names
regularly--like going through all our kid's names to get it right--

Uh--Before the kid libbers light a single match--

Dyslexia takes several form--The Dragon Lady is, in fact, left handed.
The Chinese culture does not allow left-handedness.  Therefore, she
was FORCED to be right handed.  That conflict causes massive problems--
(and we don't dare laugh) like twisting things the wrong way--

The Troll has another problem--being a resident of codgerspace (neat book, BTW)
He is in the first stages of senility--

     Stage 1:  You lose names.
     Stage 2:  You forget faces.
     Stage 3:  You forget to pull your zip up.
     Stage 4:  You forget to pull your zip down. 

Thank the powers that I am only in stage 1!

BTW, my Grandpappy never got past Stage 1--he died before he hit any
other stages (at age 96).  (I'll decide later if thats a brag or complain)

END OF STEREOTYPE ALERT-----

Troll Philosophy--When I have trouble laughing at myself, kindly kick the dirt
over me--I musta died and not noticed--

--rich AKA The Boss Troll
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 I may say, do, or be otherwise associated with outside of work for them.
 -- Use at your own risk, your mileage may vary, no news is good news."

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From: gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu (Jonathan Gardner)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Colorful Phrases
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:27:04 GMT
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii

I have two brothers and two sisters. Before the 7 of us would pile into
the car (VW microbus, actually) for a long trip my father would say,

"Has everyone used the bathroom? Speak now, or forever hold your piss."

The Space Cadet
Durham, England
--
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Jon Gardner                                gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu
Institute for Astronomy                           University of Hawaii
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: regan1016@bestsd.sdsu.edu (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY)
Subject: Re: visiting LA at the end of February (was Re: In honor of...)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:13:00 GMT

Lizzy, Elizabeth's VR persona, steps out from the shadows and hugs Snark!
"Hi there! One of my favourite wizards! (OK, they're all my favourites, 
your point being ;) ?)
Snark adds:
>Snark is talking...
>>>"...and decided that I'll most likely check out the warmest of the
>>> Left Coast climes at that time."
> 
>In article <1beh2uINNi35@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>>StM looks (what else?) confused.  "You mean you're going to visit
>>Grant down in San Diego?" he asks.
> 
>Snark chuckles.  "No, though I suppose I may wind up taking a day trip
>there, or something.  Beats me.  Is the weather signficantly different
>in SD vs. LA?  I'd assume they're pretty much identical, though
>quite different from Bay area weather."
Not exactly identical ... SD & LA are a couple hundred miles apart, after 
all.  It can be rainy in SD and sunny in LA on any given day ...

>>[STM] turns serious for a moment and cautions, "Los Angeles in late
>>February can get pretty chilly (well, not compared to Chicago [or is
>>it Michigan?  Your sig and your return address don't match], of
>>course). 
>"Michigan, most of the time, although my old Chicago account (likely to
>be killed with extreme prejudice soon) is better for reading and posting.
>I suspect LA will be significantly warmer than here at that time, yes!"
Yes!  Definitely.  After all, it doesn't snow in LA (no, I don't consider 
the Grapevine part of LA, so don't mention Antelope Valley or Lancaster ... 
thank you ...)

>>Be prepared for temperatures in the 40s, or, better still, ask about
>>the weather just before setting out." 
>"Hmmm... guess my friends lied to me then.  They promised at least 50s. :)"
No, they didn't ... average temps in years past during the winter here is 
in the low to mid-50s ... then again, with El Nino, and the ozone, and 
whatall, it's not safe to guarantee that sort of thing anymore.
For instance, last year, it actually rained during the rainy season!! So 
much so that parts of the San Fernando Valley got seriously flooded ... 
some fatalities, too ...

Assume nothing till mid-January ... and bring an umbrella anyway. :)

>-----
>"Being an adult is a drag, but the orgasms are terrific."
>	- toms@masscomp.UUCP (Tom Scola)

---<--<-{@ | "I believe that before all else, I am a reasonable human being,
Elizabeth  | just as you are -- or, at all events, that I must try and 
	   | become one." _A Doll's House_, Henrik Ibsen
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: click!
Date: 11 Oct 1992 20:29:56 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct11.161737.708@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>Habit?  You mean that there are people who actually expect you to
>>use that phrase?  Yikes...
>
>Yup.  Depending on your physical location and your social/work group, it
>can be easy to forget that many other people lie under the shadow of
>Political Correctness.  I don't want to start a debate on the subject,
>but PCness definitely exists, although the threat of it is usually worse
>than the reality.

StM agrees, "Aahz is right.  There are actually folks out there who will damn
near go ballistic if they hear you use the term `handicapped' or `disabled.'
The amazing thing is that none of the people whom I've met who *INSIST* that
you use the phrase `differently abled' were actually `differently abled'
themselves.  Of course, the ridiculous thing about it is that the term
`differently abled' will almost certainly, like its predecessors `handicapped'
(which replaced `crippled') and `disabled' (which replaced handicapped, or
maybe it was the other way around) be considered a pejorative before the end of
the decade.  It's similar to the whole silly negro/black/afro-american/person
of color/african-american thing.  You can make up new words all you want.  They
still  refer to the same thing, and changing the words won't change the
underlying reality.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Subject: Re: Cultural Exchange (was Re: Schooling)
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:10:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.234255.11264@waikato.ac.nz> rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.062507.3135@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar) writes:
>> Still, I
>> think a decent rugby team could run circles around any NFL team, provided
>> they don't have to wear all that damned armour."
>
>  "A rugby league team should do especially well since the scrimmage is 
>fairly close to the concept of the dummy half." Stumpy grins... "And if 
>the Aussies start to lose their supremacy (which they inevitably will 
>eventually) the Kiwi teams will take all comers until the Aussies knock 'em
>off the top spot again."
>
>  He turns and performs the international gesture of 'invitation to 
>high-five' to DM and Nightstalker...
>
"What is this rubarb about the Aussies loosing supremacy??  Hand me my
trident!"



--
The Nightstalker....



"To be responsive at this time, though I will simply say, and therefore
this is a repeat of what I said previously, that which I am unable to
offer in response is based on information available to make no such
statement."

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: A test
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:52:58 GMT
Keywords: test,ignore



>   A test for all seasons.  I've been told that now I should be able to 
>direct post to the newsgroup.  This test is just to confirm that.  If it
>works you may well be seeing alot more of me soon.

>    The (Hopeful) Wolf.



kitten bounces up to wolf..."you made it...and we are certainly happy
to see you...."and hugs the large and furry critter...

--
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conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Re: A Use of the Danger Room
Organization: The Polyhedron Group
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 03:38:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.000815.3721@data-io.com>, li@Data-IO.COM (Liralen Li)
writes:
> 
>    As the party wound slowly to a close, Liralen sneaked off, on her own,
> carrying the black and silvered blue parcel with her.  She disappeared for
> a moment, in the bathroom labelled "Folks" and came out in shorts, flat
> soled tennis shoes, neon green socks, and a black tank top.  The tank top
> showed surprising muscles on Liralen's upper arms, for a girl.  The shorts
> revealed ugly looking bruises on her right thigh, her right ankle, and her
> left shin as well as a string of three scars on her right knee and leg. A
> long time Patron, when asked about them said, reassuringly, "Soccer player."
> 
>    Liralen was smiling as she opened the door to the Danger Room.
> 
>    The door closed behind her and her new toy, and there were no sounds.

Jason, a martial artist himself, follows quitely. He bows on entering, as
if he just entered a dojo. For that is what the danger room has become
today. He goes to one wall, and assumes a comfortable kneeling position,
sitting on his feet. His hands are drawn back to his hips, palms up, the
fingers loosely curled. A small smile crosses his lips, as he ralaxes and
settles in to observe Liralen and her new toy.

He watches their practice exercise, as Liralen commands the droid to
execute "Tai chi chuan, short Yang form." and "Sword Form.  Yang, again."
The style is one Jason has not learned as yet, and he gazes in rapt
facination as the pair move through the graceful exercizes.

>    Liralen's concentrations shatters.  

Jason blinks at this, but says nothing. Yet.

>    "Can I call you by a name instead of just 'it'?"
> 
>    The neutral voice says calmly, "Entering Naming status...  Please repeat
> name and spelling twice to confirm."
> 
>    "Argent." Liralen says without hesitation, "A-R-G-E-N-T.  Argent.  
> A-R-G-E-N-T"
> 
>    It cocks its head at the instruction, and then nods, "Confirmed.  You
> may now call me Argent."  

Jason smiles, and says -very- quietly, in less than a whisper, "So Ka? Ah,
so desu." He thinks of another Argent, whom Liralen has reason to have
known, in another time and place, and believes he understands the
signifigance of the choice. Not that Jason's opinion on it really matters
much, but he approves wholeheartedly. Jason smiles warmly.

Liralen and Argent now practice Fencing. Jason is at least somewhat
familiar with this art, and concentrates on their techniques, learning what
he can.

>    And the Danger Room is filled with the ringing of steel on steel...

Jason continues to observe, and is glad that Liralen has acquired such a
superb training partner. He muses to himself, 'Might she share?', but says
nothing. Yet.

Jason
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: >Song of sixpence
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:42:49 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

Jilara blinks as the Place starts to shimmer back into
existance before her eyes.  Somehow, she feels rather like Rip
Van Winkle.  "I missed the Party!" she wails.  (You just
thought you saw me here---through the miracle of transmission
in from other dimensions.)  It's now October 12th, and she
shakes her head, feeling a bit dizzy.  This is the aftereffect
of having wandered through newsgroups without number, lost
amid the likes of comp.ai.philosophy, having to tell each imp
she met along the way "yes" or "no" when it asked if she
wanted to subscribe, always questing for the doorway that
would take her back to Callahans Place.  

She feels at home, here, now, having encountered a crowd of
belated welwishers, she feels at home.  With a sigh of relief,
she goes over and gives Liralen a hug.  "Hope it was happy!"
she says, and ponders what libation from Mike is the best
medicine for net.lag.

--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out."  --Einstein,
by way of Barry Shein on the net
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Grrr...
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:13:00 GMT

Danger Mouse grumbles as he types away at a keyboard in a corner of the
Place.

"...mumblemumblemumblediskspacemumblemumblestupidfilesystemmumblemumble..."

He looks up. "Oh, sorry. Just rebuilding my .newsrc file. I tried reading
news last night, not realising that the disk on this machine was full.
When I quit news, it tried to save the changes to my .newsrc, failed, and
for some reason erased the old version as well. Now somebody has deleted
some stuff, so we have almost 3 megs of space - not much when thirty-odd
users are regularly generating 2-meg postscript files and core dumps. And
the Head of School still thinks we don't need more disk space..."

- Danger Mouse.
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