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From: buzz@toxicavenger.bear.com (Buzz Moschetti)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Xview and process blocking?
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: buzz@fsrg.bear.com
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc.
In-reply-to: fgreco@shearson.com's message of 20 Aug 92 22:16:51 GMT

1.  Set up the command line, e.g. char *cmd = "cc src1.c src2.c -o a.out";
2.  Set the parent frames to busy as follows:
      xv_set(<base wins or popup wins>, FRAME_BUSY, TRUE, NULL);
3.  Use my xrun package to run and reap the command.  
4.  In the child reaper function, reset frames to not-busy.

This will in effect do what you want without actually locking up the
parent process.

Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3451 comp.text.frame:2585
From: era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.text.frame
Subject: ps->raster conversion under OW3.0?
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:00:54 GMT
Reply-To: era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold)
Organization: Nat'l Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR); Boulder, CO

We have a user here who has been using a script he got off the net,
along with OpenWindows, to convert postscript files to raster.  When
we changed from OW2.0 to  OW3.0 (both under SunOS 4.1.1), the script
would no longer work.  Specifically, it calls xnews, which issues the
error message "dlopen: stub interception failed", then dumps core.

Anyone know why the script fails, or can anyone suggest another
reliable way to do this?  The user would rather not use ghostscript.
Please email to me, I will summarize if there is any response.

Here's the script that has started failing under OW3.0.  Thanks
in advance for your help ...
---->8-----cut here----->8-----cut here----->8-----cut here----->8----
#! /bin/sh
# @(#)ps2bits 1.2 89/12/12
# ps2bits - PostScript to Rasterfile converter.
#

USAGE="Usage: `basename ${0}` [-in s] [-out s] [-dpi x y] [-size w h] [-color]"
OUT="pspage"
IN="%stdin"
DPIX=72
DPIY=72
XSIZE=8.5
YSIZE=11
DEPTH=1

export OPENWINHOME XNEWSHOME LD_LIBRARY_PATH

OPENWINHOME="${OPENWINHOME-/usr/local/OpenWindows}"
XNEWSHOME=${OPENWINHOME}
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${OPENWINHOME}/lib:/lib

if [ ! -f $OPENWINHOME/etc/NeWS/redbook.ps ]; then
    echo "`basename $0`: xnews is not installed correctly in $OPENWINHOME" 1>&2
    echo "	(set \$OPENWINHOME to where it is installed...)" 1>&2
    exit 1
fi

while [ ${#} -gt 0 ]; do
    case "${1}" in
	-color)	shift;
		DEPTH=8
	;;
	-out)	shift;
		OUT=${1} shift
	;;
	-in)	shift;
		IN=${1} shift
	;;
	-size)	shift;
		XSIZE=${1} shift;
		YSIZE=${1} shift
	;;
	-dpi)	shift;
		DPIX=${1} shift;
		DPIY=${1} shift
	;;
	*)	echo ${USAGE};
		exit 0
	;;
    esac
done

$OPENWINHOME/bin/xnews -init "
    /currentpacking false def
    /setpacking { pop } def
    (NeWS/basics.ps) (r) file cvx exec
    (NeWS/redbook.ps) (r) file cvx exec

    500 dict begin	% start userdict
	false setautobind
	/bind {} def

	/showpage { copypage erasepage initgraphics } def
	/_pageno 0 def
	/copypage {
	    /_pageno _pageno 1 add store
	    (${OUT})
	    clippath writecanvas
	} def

	${DPIX} ${XSIZE} mul ${DPIY} ${YSIZE} mul ${DEPTH}
	[ ${DPIX} 72 div 0 0 ${DPIY} 72 div neg 0 7 index ]
	null buildimage setcanvas
	erasepage initgraphics

	% hack for bug in folio initialization code.
	/Courier findfont 10 scalefont setfont () stringwidth pop pop

	(${IN}) (r) file cvx exec
    shutdownserver
"
---->8-----cut here----->8-----cut here----->8-----cut here----->8----
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: asnyder@artorg.hmc.psu.edu (Alan J. Snyder)
Subject: Re: List of Open Look tools available
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:55:29 GMT

>bibcard	(v 1.01)	LaTeX Bibliography Manager	???

bibcard, according to a recent post by the authors, is on ftp.eunet.ch
in software/text/TeX/bibcard-1.0.tar.Z

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From: hempatel@bailly.rutgers.edu (Hemanshu Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Help what is OpenLook/OpenWindows
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:40:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: bailly.Aug.19.15.40.43.1992.7951
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	Help,
	
	I'm kind of new to unix and work mostly with X and 
	was wondering what OpenLook is and if it is public
	domain. If so where can I FTP the source from. Any
	help would be appreciated. Thanx...

	Hemanshu
From: greg@agog (Greg Cockroft)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Question on XView  scrolling list display
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:38:24 GMT
Organization: Agog, Inc.


Is there anyway to control where a scroll list is scrolled to under XView?

I want to add a sorted item and then have the scroll list scrolled to the  
newly add item.

	-greg.




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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: How do I get NeWS/NeWS applications to run on TEktronixs'
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:15:36 GMT

Hellow,

how do I get NeWs applications like the menu demos to work on the
tektronix xp27 and xp330. What code can be hacked? Would this be diffuclut
or overly time-consuming??

thanx for answering,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: Help: bimaps and image file use
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:40:49 GMT

Hellow,
 How do I replace the icons in my openlook windows? I tried to use
define mailtool.iconImage: <path>/nautilus.icon to get a nautilus shelheshell, no luck.

I tried something like mailtool.newMailBitmap: <path>/flagup, in my .Xdefaults,
no good.  

How do I use these bitmaps, *.icon files?

Also, is there a resource I can define in my .Xdefaults for the paths for the
bitmaps and icons, so that if I say xsetroot -bitmaps <bitmapname> it doesn't
come back with a "can't find file " error.  Now, I either have to explicitly
use the directory path or be in the bitmap directory.

is there something like BITMAPPATH AND ICONPATH that can be put in .Xdefaults?

thanx for answering,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
From: mcfong@sybase.com (Martin C. Fong)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: XView from Sun vs. XView from 'export'
Date: 10 Aug 92 23:03:54 GMT
Reply-To: mcfong@sybase.com (Martin C. Fong)
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

Which version of 'libxview.a' is more reliable:

1)	The version which Sun ships as part of OpenWindows 3.0

2)      The version which can be built from sources and patches
	available under:

		export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib/xview3

Building programs like 'olvwm' and 'xdtm' with the 'libxview.a' sources
from 'export' certainly has advantages since I can debug problems
myself.  However, I am more interested in which version will give me
the least amount of trouble.

I have no control (or idea) how OpenWindows is obtained or maintained
at my site.  So if Sun has sent out revisions on OpenWindows, I have no
idea if they have been installed at my site.  (Hmm... Maybe for that
reason alone I should use the 'export' sources).

Thanks.



Martin C. Fong
Sybase Inc.
6475 Christie Ave.
Emeryville, CA  94607
(510)596-3822
mcfong@sybase.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Mailtool and .signature
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:23:58 GMT

Is there perhaps a way to tell Mailtool to create compose windows with
a default template?

I have another mailtool question as well.  It APPEARS that there are two
ways of looking at mail msgs - full or abbreviated headers.  AND , it 
appears that if one views msgs with abbreviated headers, they are saved
off into mailboxes with abbreviated headers.

Has anyone been able to confirm this ?  If so, is there something that
I can set to tell mailtool I always want to view full headers?
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: levanon@browneyes.ucs.indiana.edu (Jacob Levanon)
Subject: A question about .DISPLAY file
Reply-To: levanon@browneyes.ucs.indiana.edu (Jacob Levanon)
Organization: University Computing Services/Indiana University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:46:21 GMT


--
Greetings:
        I know very little about open-look.  I need to know how does one
override the display indicated by the value in the .DISPLAY file?  I
need to be able to set this value dynamically, at login time.

Thanks.

 /====================================================================\
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|| University Computing Services   ||             levanon@indiana.edu ||
|| Indiana University              ||                  (812) 855-2598 ||
|| 750 N. State Road 46-Bypass     ||  ...reserved for                ||
|| Bloomington, IN  47405          \/                   future use... ||
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Help: customized .openwin-menu don't work
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 11:19:56 GMT

In article <vc7m99j.kemnitz@netcom.com> kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz) writes:
:In article <1992Aug15.032006.12284@tin.monsanto.com> nghoff@albert.monsanto.com (Norman G. Hoffman) writes:
:=sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse) writes:
:=:     I copied the openwin-menu from $OPENWINHOME/lib (?) to $HOME/.openwin-menu
:=: and added a "MENU" category for games and xterm" per manual instructions.
:=: 
:
:
:Add another button in your olwm menu, if you change .openwin-menu
:a lot.
:
:        "Rread Menu File"               REREAD_MENU_FILE
:

I THINK this is an OpenWindows 3.0 feature of olwm.  Just one of many
which make moving to OW 3.0 a pleasure.  Of course, if you cannot move yet,
you might consider looking at olvwm 3.2 (or newer) which could be configured
to look like olwm (turning off all those features which now make using X
much more enjoyable) if you wanted to slip it in quietly.
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From: nghoff@albert.monsanto.com (Norman G. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Help: customized .openwin-menu don't work
Organization: Monsanto Company
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:20:06 GMT

sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse) writes:
:     I copied the openwin-menu from $OPENWINHOME/lib (?) to $HOME/.openwin-menu
: and added a "MENU" category for games and xterm" per manual instructions.
: 
: seems preety straight forward. But My mouse still run the system's openwin-menu.I tried to define OLWMMENU, OPENWINMENU, MENU in .cshrc to my $HOME/.openwin-menu
: nothing, no error messages--it keeps using the system's menu.
: 
: 
: what am I doing wrong???
: 
: thanx for anwering,
: 
: sue@byron.u.washington.edu
: 

When I first created $HOME/.openwin-menu, I needed to exit and 
restart OpenWindows to have the file recognized.  Apparently 
OpenWindows won't automatically switch from the system file to 
the personal file.  Once I made the switch, however, any changes 
to the personal file were reflected on-screen.

nghoff@bb1t.monsanto.com
From: Chip.Brewster@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Chip Brewster)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Mailtool and .signature
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:33:01 GMT
Reply-To: Chip.Brewster@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division


In article <1992Aug15.114827.25770@ucthpx.uct.ac.za>,
fred@dip1.ee.uct.ac.za (Fred Hoare) writes:
|> Hi
|> 
|> I'm sure that I've seen a post like this before but I can't remember
|> the answer to the question - Is there a FAQ list for this group and
if so where
|> can I find it?
|> 
|> I am running OW 3.0 and would like to get the mailtool to automatically
|> append a signature to my mail. I had a look at the manual entry for mailtool
|> and for mail and tried to set up my .mailrc file.  The option I tried
was the
|> following
|> 	set sign=`~/.signature'
|> which is what would be used in mail to aappend a signature when the
~a command
|> was entered into a file.
|> 
|> Is there a way to do this or will mailtool source code have to be modified?
|> 

One way to do this is to create the file $HOME/.text_extras_menu or copy
it from /usr/lib.  Then  add the line:

    "Signature"             cat $HOME/.signature

You will also need to add the following resource to your $HOME/.Xdefaults:

    Text.ExtrasMenuFilename:        /<your_home_path>/.text_extras_menu

Then you simply pop-up the menu in any XView text window and select
Extras->Signature.  The advantage with this method is it works with
other XView apps, not just mailtool.

Chip Brewster
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Subject: Re: xrealfishdb [was: Worthless question...]
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 21:34:20 GMT

zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
>Anyone out there get the program openwin/demo/realxfishdb (bundled with
>OW3.0) to be able to display more than one fish at a time?  Sorry to waste
>the bandwith, but it would make my bosses day if it worked....  :-)

You need a new version of the binary for xrealfishdb.

I have a copy, but sinc it needs OpenWindows 3 and 8-bit (or better?) colour,
I don't feel it appropriate to put it on export.lcs.mit.edu -- does anyone
want to offer an ftp site?  I shal then put it into the FAQ for this group!

Lee

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Help: customized .openwin-menu don't work
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:28:50 GMT

One thing I found about Restart was that if I let the window manager decide
where to put my icons, when I did a restart it decided again where to put
them.  That was disconcerting at first, but it is normal, since restart
means that the window manager re-exec'd itself.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
From: dvanderr@oracle.com (Danny Vanderryn)
Subject: xview paste from xterm SOLUTION
Organization: Oracle Corporation.  Redwood City, CA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:29:01 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


thanks to farrell mckay (fbm@ptcburp.oz.au) and his 'xcb' program, i
have been able to come up with an easy way to paste into xview apps
from an xterm, or other non-xview app.  (the other way already works
for me....)  i'm looking for people to beta test my changes before i
put them into xcb-2.0 for wide distribution.  

i'm especially interested in users of xview 3.0 or OLIT, neither of
which i've tested against.  if you're interested, send me mail, and
i'll send you xcb-1.1.1.tar.Z.uu (about 30K).  i'm hoping for a decent
response, but not so large that i can't deal with it in free time.
please bear with me if that becomes the case.

danny vanderryn (dvanderr@oracle.com)
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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Worthless question...
Keywords: n
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:09:57 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

Anyone out there get the program openwin/demo/realxfishdb (bundled with
OW3.0) to be able to display more than one fish at a time?  Sorry to waste
the bandwith, but it would make my bosses day if it worked....  :-)

cjohn mace
zcjm0f@hou.amoco.com

ps- the symptom is...  it works fine with one fish, you add a second, and 
    you wind up getting no fish at all... just the tank..  
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Subject: Re: Why is the File Manager in OW 3.0 so buggy?
Keywords: OW3 FileManager bugs
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 18:39:29 GMT

marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron) writes:
> I've not been terribly impressed with the new v3 deskset applications. 
> They might have a pile of new features, but they also have a somewhat
> larger pile of new bugs.


dec@s-strat.co.uk writes:
> I agree with these assesments of FM and binder (I believe there are
> patches available form Sun for some of the bugs). 
>
For me, the cd player demo sums it up.
On the Intergraph, it's big and clunky, it doesn't even have a volume
control let alone auto-play, and I have never seen it go wrong in any way.

The Sun demo has more features than my $1200 Cambridge Audio CD player at
home [maybe that's not surprising, though; they go for minimalist quality],
but it also dumped core the first time I tried it, because the Version string
was too long to fit into the buffer provided...

> I must say, though, that not all the tools are this buggy. I use
> Calendar Manager and the mailtool daily and have had no problems at
> all with either of them, and in fact find them very useful and
> productive.

Mailtool doesn't work with over 1750 or so messages - it won't let you see
any more.  I have no idea why this totally pointless and arbitrary limit is
there.  It also rewrites aliases that contain quotes incorrectly.

On the other hand, Intergraph don't ship a mailtool at all, and the RS/6000
has an abomination of a thing that lets you click on a sort icon, type lines
to be sorted and view the results in a window with no `save' option (I kid you
not, it's a whole new kind of pathetic).  Log on to an Ultrix machine and
do `size /usr/bin/dxclock' if it's there.  A 3 MByte clock??

Me, I'll stick with Sun any day.  The icons might not be quite as pretty the
IBM ones, the baroque fantasies of Intergraph Environ V are missing,
but I can get work done.

The OPEN LOOK UI could be one of the best things that's happened to Unix
workstations since NeWS.  Let's hope it doesn't have the same fate.

Lee


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From: afv@eng.cam.ac.uk (Frans Volschenk)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: dbxtool  / xvdbx / xdbx question
Keywords: dbxtool
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:12:04 GMT
Reply-To: afv@eng.cam.ac.uk
Organization: cam.eng

Hi,
	I am trying to get hold of dbxtool under OW3.  Is such a thing
	available.  The only one that comes up is the old SunView
	dbxtool and I am almost sure that there should be one for
	OW3.   I installed xdbx, but still prefer the OL interface to
	that of std X. Is xvdbx around ?

Frans Volschenk
afv@eng.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: drc@coelho.COM (david r coelho)
Subject: changing keyboard focus
Organization: Coelho Publications, Fremont, CA USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:06:51 GMT

I'm trying to explicitly control the keyboard input focus in an
xview application and am having trouble figuring out how to do this. 
I'm trying to override the TAB functionality in a frame that contains
a bunch of text panels. I want the caret to move in a different
order. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks in advance...
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From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Can the menu and button colors be changed?
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:20:58 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hellow,

could anybody tell me if it's possible to change the background colors
or the various menus and the buttons that go with it in workspace and
openwindow tools, etc idependently of the windowo border color??

I can't seem to get it to any color except what I set the window border color
to. I've tried various permutations of *menu*Color*background and *button*
Color*background--- no luck-- all menus and buttons come up to the color of
the window borders. Is what I'm trying to do possible??

thanks for ansering,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Subject: Re: Initial mouse/window
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 10:32:15 GMT

In article <+6_n5m-.kemnitz@netcom.com> kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.141122.16771@lth.se> kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson) writes:
>=I have a problem whereupon I start up OW, I have a shelltool in the
>=middle of the screen, at the initial mouse position.  I then begin to
>=type, and only get beeps, until I touch the mouse, i.e. move 1 pixel.
>=Is there any way that I can fix things such that I wouldn't have to
>=touch the mouse initially?
>=
>You can change properties(in OW) or resources(in X) focus
>from "focus-follows-mouse" to "click-to-focus".
>
>Read 'man olwm' for more information.

Yes, yes, I did this.  You don't seem to understand.  When I start up
ow, the mouse lies in a window, and I shouldn't have to touch the
mouse at all (either movement or button click) to have this window
selected for typing.  I am in focus-follows-mouse mode, but the focus
isn't initially set to where the mouse lies.  That is the problem.
And the solution is certainly not to switch to click-to-focus,
whereupon I would *always* have to click the mouse to get into a window.

Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se