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From: Janet.Murray@f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Janet Murray)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel8
Subject: Notes on the Bangkok Project
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 11:27:11 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

In May, 1992, Terry Anderson wrote:

To give you a short history, the idea for this project arose upon 
my return from the XV World Congress of ICDE in Caracas in 1990. 
Having realized that as a newly impoverished grad student, I would 
not likely be able to afford to travel to Bangkok, I began thinking 
of alternate ways to participate. I approached CompuServe, Genie and 
some of the large information utilities regarding sponsorship, but 
soon realized that the costs would be prohibitive. I then began 
"discovering" the InterNet and realized that a distributed
conference would be cost effective and probably workable.

I then began a long set of discussions with Robin Mason, from the 
Open University, Morten Paulson from DEOS, Dave Godfrey from 
Softwords-CoSy and assorted other distance educators. We approached 
ICDE, who thought it was a great idea, but of course they had no 
funding. The Congress Program Chair, Bruce Scriven has however been 
encouraging and we moved forward. The Congress Organizing Committee 
in Bangkok managed to get 10 terminals and printers from IBM Thailand 
for use at the Conference and Softwords has volunteered to set
up a Unix machine and CoSy conferencing system in Bangkok, for the 
actual Congress.

Robin managed to twist the arms of some very impressive scholars to 
be "first speakers", Dave Godfrey has volunteered to coordinate the 
Bankgkok site, and I'm looking after "porting" and distribution.

INTRODUCTION: International Council for Distance Education Computer
     Conference (ICDECC) is an experimental project designed effort
     to link distance educators and students from across the globe
     in an interactive discussion related to the themes of the XVI
     World Congress on Distance Education.  The project is also
     intended as a demonstration project and an invitation to new
     users to participate in global computer conferencing. The key
     innovation of the project is the use of human "porters" to
     distribute, filter and format comments between a large number
     of sites, networks and mailing lists.

CONCLUSION: ICDECC will be a global experience uniting, in
     electronic space, distance educators from around the globe.
     For many the experience will be their first exposure to
     electronic networking.  The contribution of distance educators
     as participants and porters will insure that the experience
     profits each of us.
 



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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel5
Subject: Consensus.
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 17:07:14 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Donald,

DB>        Building Consensus:  A Leadership Decision

I don't know about the Building Concensus, but the General Concensus is
that you are in the wrong area. Goodbye.

ooroo

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From: Donald.Bear@f111.n213.z1.fidonet.org (Donald Bear)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel5
Subject: BUDGET
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 10:09:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:213/111 - The Daily Planet, Reno NV

Laura P.  - I just remembered:  Have we paid Sandy B.?  This needs to be budgeted.  Other concerns, proposals include:  What to pay Sharon Teets.  How to budget the remainder.  Entertain the Daily Planet fiscal needs.  


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Frog Watch and Keylink
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 11:52:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

John Feltham wrote:
JF>Nice to see The Australian Museum taking an interest in telecommunications
JF>for schools.

True enough, but what a pity schools in NSW are underwhelmed about
telecommunications.  I took up with Frog Watch on Keylink last year,
supplemented with SCI.MAG and SCI.Q on Keylink this year, and barely a
whisper have we heard -- what there has been has come from Queensland
and Victoria, by and large.

I did a stint teaching computer ed. as a casual in a Sydney school last
year -- there were 23 Macs, scores of Apple IIs, and not, so far as I
could see, a single modem, nor have I seen any sign of them around the
boards.  You will find the Oz Museum lurking now in Roger Buck's
PowerNet system in NSW.  Hopefully this time we will be able to stir
schools up a bit.  Meanwhile, I continue to support Keylink, but it's
like hanging onto a large anchor while wearing a leaking pair of
floaties -- it's only time till I go under or let go.  Is anybody else
out there using Keylink still?

(moved RB MMR 2.41#, was  9-13-92 #K12.CHANNEL 1...#) 



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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Pen Pals for kids in HAWAII wanted
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 12:12:37 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Richard,
Here is the letter from sherri Wagemann I said I would forward to you:
                                             August 22, 1992
 
 
To Any Interested Elementary Teacher:
 
My name is Mrs. Sherri Wagemann and I am a 4/5 elementary teacher in the West
Valley School District of Spokane, Washington.  I teach in a parent
involvement program called SPICE (student parent interactive classroom
environment).  It is a unique program serving classes of cross-aged students
in grades 1/2, 2/3, 4/5. Parents are an integral part of the program. Because
it is a choice program, parents are asked to sign a contract committing 90
hours of school involvement, 30 of those hours to be spent in direct contact
with children. It makes for an exciting, enriched learning atmosphere for all
who are involved.
 
My class and I are very interested in networking with children and teachers in 
other geographical areas of our nation. We are interested in writing pen pal
letters, or working on math problem solving activities etc. using the computer 
linkup as a communication tool.
 
If anyone is interested in working to set up a program such as this with my
class and your students, please contact me.
 
Thanks...Hope to hear from you in the future.
 
Sherri L. Wagemann
West Valley School District
Seth Woodard Elementary School
Spokane, Washington
 
P.S.  I am working through Julie Rosenoff, a teacher in another building who
has a modem.  So please send mail to Julie and address me in the body of the
letter.  Hope that's not too confusing!
 
Mahalo,
Julie


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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 22:39:45 EDT
From: Howard B. Vigneault <345J7OE@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Too Much Trash, Etc.

Jack

The Acid Rain project sounds great.  I believe their is someone (somewhere)
doing a telecommunications project like this already...is that what the
captured part of your message refered to? (I had a hard time following it,
probable time for me to get glasses  =-)  ).  Anyway, I teach high school
biology in central Michigan - and we would be excited to see such a data
base start.  Many projects could spin off the use of the data!

Bruce Vigneault
From: Mary.Darling@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Darling)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Alive and Well
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 07:58:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

-> G'day Mary,
->
-> MD>About 5 years ago Les Wexner (owner and founder of the Limited
-> MD>Clothing Stores, Victoria's Secret, Henry Bendel, etc.)decided he
-> MD>wanted to build "a house in the country".
->
-> MD>Our new high school (funded by guess who) will probably have a net
-> MD>system with tie in capabilities at each student desk in the buildi
->
-> Can you please tell Les, the next time that you see him, that North
-> Queensland is a great place in which to live. Right on the Great
-> Barrier Reef.
->
->
->     _--|\
->    /     \  ooroo
->    \.--._/
->         v
->
->
We feel VERY fortunate to have him as a neighbor!!!!!
  TNet 2.1U  ORIGIN-New Albany H/S Eagle's Echo BBS(New Albany, Ohio)



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From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: UUCP-fido bridge
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:29:26 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I'm in the process of setting up a BBS at school.  Here are my goals:

	Support for UUCP news/mail
	support for many users over ethernet lan
	fido-net support (?)

Since I can get all the K12 stuff through my uucp feed, fido-net
doesn't seem that important, but since most K12 people seem to be on
fido & getting personal mail in and out seems difficult (I don't think
I've gotten *any* replies to mail I've sent people.  I find the
abundance of personal messages posted to these groups annoying & make
it difficult to keep up with them when following a bunch of usenet
groups as well.

I'm currently running 10net, a peer-to-peer ethernet lan.  It's lack
of reasonable security is starting to be a problem & I'm looking at
Novell & PCNFS.

If a UUCP/fido bridge existed that would let me suck in news & mail
with UUCP & then run Wildcat as a reader, that might be a workable
solution. 

Ideas?

-- 
Jay Pfaffman, Computer Coordinator        pfaffman@pilot.njin.net
Dwight-Englewood School, 315 E. Palisade Ave.                      
Englewood, NJ  07631-0489                 201-569-9500
From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Want To Be A Moderator???
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:45:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

DK>I will wait for your reply.

Thanks for your "resume", Don. We'll be making the modrator
appointments toward the end of the month after everyone has had a
chance to send in their resume, too.

Thanks!

=jack=
Moderator Coordinator


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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Moderators Wanted!!!!!
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 11:00:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT!  IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT!

            +---------------------------------------+
            |   Would you like to be a moderator??  |
            +---------------------------------------+

September is the month when K12net considers new candidates to
moderate each of its non-Channel echoes. While our sysops provide an
effective yet amazingly inexpensive delivery system, it takes
skillfull, imaginative and energetic moderators to stimulate and
guide the creation of applicable curricular content in our echoes.
Do you have the "stuff" that it takes to be a good moderator?

K12net moderators assume a responsibility to assert a skillful and
continuous managerial *and* editorial presence in their echoes to
stimulate the posting of lively and appropriate conversation and
information of a curricular nature by and for our worldwide K-12
community.

Moderators are appointed by the K12net Council of Coordinators,
usually through the Moderator Coordinator, (currently Jack Crawford)
for a term of one year expiring at the end of September. This term
may be renewable. There may be more than one moderator in the larger
echoes.

If you would like to be considered for appointment as a moderator,
please send a "resume" to Jack Crawford at 1:260/620 by Sept 21st
with the following information:

1. Provide a "topic sentence" (not more than 25 words) which
   describes the curicular and/or professional educator focus you
   propose to give the echo. Also include your ideas on any specific
   projects you would like to implement.
2. Briefly describe your background and professional qualifications
   in the echoe's topic area.
3. Describe your experience with international telecommunications-
   based conferencing and collaboration.
4. Describe the extent of your commitment to "assert a continuous
   managerial and editorial presence" in the echo.
5. Current moderators should indicate their desire to be reappointed
   and reaffirm item #4.

IMPORTANT: Please limit the size of your "resume" to about 300 words!

=jack= Crawford
K12net Moderator Coordinator


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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: School preparation
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 22:58:08 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

 * Reply to msg originally in K12Net Sysop Echo

In a message <05 Sep 92  00:36:00> to <Steve Larson> about <School preparation>,
Ed Kwasniewski wrote:

 EK> Thankfully we  have a meeting in the afternoon and I'll be able to
 EK> catch a few winks  there.  Must remember not to nod though ... I could
 EK> end up with some  very interesting extra work this year! 

For the same reason, I won't deliberately MISS a staff meeting!  When one
is not around, one can get VOLUNTEERED for all kinds of wonderful things!
I arrived late to one staff meeting to find myself being considered for
Cheerleaders' advisor!  I wouldn't have minded, but I just can't find panty
hose long enough!  ;-]

 EK> By the way ... is there a moderator in this echo?  I think one of us
 EK> is  off topic!? 

Yeah...probably you!  I think you might have nodded off!

Our staff meeting was full of good news!  Primarily, our numbers were up
from 680 students last year to just over 800 this year.  This, of course,
ensures that we can run a fairly diverse timetable and satisfy the various
needs of our senior students.  It also means that we are full to the
rafters!  While some of the classes are rather large, the administrators
are doing all that they can...splitting classes and hiring extra staff.
The other two high schools in town also have higher numbers.  None of us
expected this kind of an increase (even though we all monitor our feeder
schools) but the numbers ensure that our funding is up.  I wonder where
they all came from?  I don't think they clone...or do they?

Regards,
Steve

... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.

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From: Linda.Klughart@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Klughart)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: msg #513
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 17:06:28 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Don: Clever deductive reasoning - obviously from someone above grade 2. Don't mind me, but have just finished working with my grade 2 class for the first complete week, and am acutely aware that reasoning isn't a strong point for some....
As for T.V. some of us don't like watching it even when there is nothing else to do. However, like any addiction, I do watch it occassionally so I can get new ammunition to gripe about. 


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From: simon@wagyl.ee.uwa.oz.au (Simon Glenister)
Subject: Re: Australia
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 13:19:53 GMT

In <20841.2AA5C7FD@puddle.fidonet.org> Charles.Burton@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Charles Burton) writes:

>I'm planning to teach a unit on Australia this fall to my 6th 
>graders.  I would like any  ideas floating around out there and I 
>would like to know how I might make contact with someone in 
>Australia.
Hi Charles contact is made!   I'm from Perth in Western Australia and
currently teach at a college here.  If I can be of any assistance please
feel free to ask.  My name is Sarah Glenister .
>wq
-wq
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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Alive and Well
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 17:31:20 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Mary,

MD>About 5 years ago Les Wexner (owner and founder of the Limited
MD>Clothing Stores, Victoria's Secret, Henry Bendel, etc.)decided he
MD>wanted to build "a house in the country".

MD>Our new high school (funded by guess who) will probably have a networked
MD>system with tie in capabilities at each student desk in the building.

Can you please tell Les, the next time that you see him, that North
Queensland is a great place in which to live. Right on the Great
Barrier Reef.


    _--|\
   /     \  ooroo
   \.--._/
        v


 * SLMR 2.1a * Coral Sea Views, Wulguru, Townsville, Australia


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From: Kevin.Mccluskey@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Mccluskey)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: PROPOSALS
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 23:21:26 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

For those of us that can not access #390, How about a repete.  I remenber a 
Masters Degree.  Are they still as painful as they were in the 80's?????? 
What university are you at?  What can we do for you???


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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: GVN/Ch 11
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 20:17:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

 CR> to Channel 11, so there should be quite a few messages there
 CR> already.  You might try asking your SysOp about it.
Hi Chris,  Well, I guess my note was a little premature.  The day after I
sent it off, Channel 11 did have something in it, and it's been growing
daily.  Thanks for the reply though.  Now to figure out the logistics of
getting twenty-eight kids on one modem....  I'll see you at Ch11. ..Tom


 * Freddie 1.2 * So why CAN'T we have the best education system in the world?



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From: Bev Taylor <BTAYLOR@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject: University Hub Concept for K12 Connectivity
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 22:33:51 GMT

I sent out a message earlier asking if anyone is reading this group.  The
problem was that our site was not picking up the messages.  We are doing
so now, so I will start off my discussion with what we are trying to do
here at California State University, Chico (Northern California) with our
local school district.  

I am the Telecomm Mgr for the campus and am pursuing a partnership
between ourselves and the 13 school district.  At this time, the school
district has no networking capabilities between schools and all
correspondce is sent via messenger service.  It can take as long as three
days for articles of mail to go from one site across town to another. 
There are workstations (mostly Apples/MACs).  I am hoping to connect all
school sites via ISDN lines fed through the phone company's central
office (AT&T 5ESS w/ISDN) and then back to our campus hub.  This will
give the K12 access to campus services and the Internet.  Hopefully, they
will then migrate to an e-mail based system eliminating time delays,
paper costs, staffing for messaging service.  

One step toward this objective is a partnership between one of the junior
high schools and campus to use our voice mail system.  They have
implemented the "Homework Hotline" concept.  They started with 7th grade
teachers only this year.  Parents can call in 24-hours a day, 7 days a
week, and find out what the homework is for the class their child is in. 
No more "I don't have any homework" lines.  We also initiated a voice
mail box for each faculty and staff in the school.  This is a pilot
project and I'll keep anyone who's interested posted on it's progress.  

It is still in its infancy stages, but the next step is to come up with
an overall plan, apply for grant money to connect all or part of the
school together.  Money would be for high-speed connectivity,
hardware/software, teacher education/training to integrate computer based
technology into classroom curriculum, etc.  

I have much more to share but I'm afraid I've gone on too long as it is. 
Please let me know if you want any further clarification and I will keep
posting to this newsgroup.  

Bev Taylor
From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Hello to a fellow
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 19:21:18 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Edward,

I noticed that you had a large ratio of computers for your school.
There is a school in Melbourne, (I think), Methodist ladies College.
there are around 700 computers in the school. Secret? All students,
starting at Grade 5 (I believe), must provide their own laptop
computer!

ooroo

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