From: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,alt.news-media,soc.culture.iranian,soc.rights.human,talk.politics.mideast,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: PROMINENT IRANIAN BAHA'I EXECUTED
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:15:38 GMT
Reply-To: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of Molecular Genetics

In article <1992Apr16.184712.7419@cco.caltech.edu>, bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.222450.13460@cbfsb.cb.att.com> hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:
>
>There is only one way in which a restriction is placed on Jews: Not all
>members of a Jewish family can leave Iran simultaneously, at least one
>of them must remain in Iran.

Thank you for providing an example of discrimination against Jews.

>The reason for this law is the following:  Israel has this law that
>allows any Jew from any part of the world to obtain instant Israeli
>citizenship, even if he has never been in Israel.  

This is not a reason, but an excuse.  The apologists for the Syrian
government group tried this one to.  I called them on it, and they
don't post anymore.  I guess they really felt bad when I showed that
they defended holding the Syrain Jewish community hostage.    

Emigration is a right, not a privilege.
Iran is in violation of international agreements here. Everybody has
the right to leave the country they are a citizen of, as an individual
or a family, the former Eastern bloc, North Korea, and Syria are
examples of countries who deny their own citizens this right.  

And most who leave Iran don't go to Israel, but to Europe or America.
And I will claim you as a source for discrimination against Jews if 
someone asks for one that isn't part of the 'Zionist media conspiracy.'

>However, a
>Palestinian person who was born in and grew up in Palestine and whose
>ancestors lived in Palestine for hundreds of years... if such a
>person was driven away from his home during one of the wars,
>he can't return to his homeland.  The reason behind this "Law of
>Return" is to increase the Jewish population of Israel and to give more
>of Palestinian lands to them.  

No, it's to provide a place for Jews to go when they live under 
repressive regimes.  

>Because of this, Iran wants to discourage immigration of Jewish families
>to Israel. This can be done by requiring that at least one member of
>a Jewish family remain in Iran while the rest are abroad.  Normally,
>this condition is very easy to meet.

So it holds one member of the family hostage.
Now what was the Iranian justification for holding 52 Americans hostage?
And what is the justification for Iranian backed groups in Lebanon
to hold people hostage?
Maybe if half of the Jewish community didn't leave Iran following the
revolution, and others didn't want to leave, they wouldn't have to
'discourage immigration of Jewish families to Israel.'
Is the Iranian government trying to discourage Jewish families from
going to New York and Europe as well?

>There are no other restrictions on Jews.  Furthermore, as I said, they
>enjoy perfect religious freedom.  
Except the freedom to celebrate holidays with their family, or to
pray in Jerusalem as a family, etc.  Maybe you don't know that Jews
are supposed to go to Israel and Jerusalem on the 3 pilgrimage holidays.
And those who were executed on bogus charges really don't have the 
freedom to practice their religion.

And what about political freedom? Are they free to be Zionist? 
Or is that still a crime punishable by death?

>Behnam Sadeghi

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
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