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From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: housing question: avoiding suburbia in Silicon Valley
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:40:46 GMT

In article <4681@bacon.IMSI.COM> jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
>Charleen Bunjiovianna <charleen@ADS.COM> writes:
>
>	Of course, those of us who live in the suburban sprawl do so
>	because we're hopelessly addicted to double knit polyester
>	slacks, Wonder bread and strip malls.  That it's convenient to
>	our jobs is just an added blessing, ya know?
>
>What you're really saying is that you just don't care enough about your
>quality of life to do anything constructive about it, right?  I'm
>assuming that you're trying to imply that you don't live in suburbia
>because you *like* it but rather you see time-to-work as more important
>than what-else-besides-work, right?

As John Sybalsky says, "Don't think about this too hard."

What I was trying to say in my inimitable smartassed fashion is that
hey, we'd all like to live somewhere away from the smelly masses.  I
just bought a condo in Sunnyvale.  Now, Sunnyvale wasn't always home to
Jiffy Lubes, Pizza Huts and a dozen Superfund sites, ya know; it used
to be farmland and orchards, which sounds to me like a pretty nice
place to live.  Not surprising, since I grew up in such a place.

Unfortunately, it sounded like a nice place to live to hundreds of thousands
of other people, too.  Boom!  No more farmland, precious few orchards.
Look at the californication of Seattle, if you need another example.

The original poster's query sounds a lot like the plaint we often get
in rec.travel:  "Where can I go on my vacation where I won't have to
be around lots of tourists?"  when what they really mean is "Where can
I go so I don't have to deal with thousands of other people like me?"

Charleen

--
"I'm in it for the endolphins."
From: LJ03933@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: SJ to JAX tix
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:46:05 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

These tickets are no longer available...
Thanks to those folks who showed interest.
TKJ
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

Posting for a friend - E-mail replies to:
                     L620732@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
                     (Note: He's off for the day, responses to
                      your e-mail will be on Mon. 8/10 earliest)

FOR SALE: 2 Roundtrip tickets  --> $420
          San Jose, CA -> Jacksonville, FLA
          1 male name, 1 female

          (Prefer to sell as a pair but
            will consider otherwise)

(mail accidently sent to me will be forwarded)
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: Cable-TV Sci-Fi channel
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:06:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <JET.92Aug19105637@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>          Neither carry any of the "new" channels, but Warner
>manages to find space for multiple shopping channels and 3+
>pay-per-view channels. ;-(

Yes, I'm always amazed when Heritage announces these great new
channels, which turn out to be nothing but shopping channels
(which I assume they get paid to carry, then charge us for),
and channels which seem to consist of nothing but "paid
advertisement" programs selling everything to 'Get Rich in
Real Estate' to 'Make Your Zits Go Away Forever.'
 
Greg
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Where are the wind-propellers?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:21:56 GMT
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

I580/Altamont Pass, 2 miles E of Livermore and the two passes
on either side (N or S).  Also S of 152 and the San Luis Reservoir.
US Wind Power.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
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From: rhockins@enrico.tmc.edu (Russell Hockins)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Heritage Cablevision
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:08:18 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <16b6lfINN714@hal.com> howard@hal.com (Howard Gayle) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.164324.16717@88opensi.88open.ORG>, ferg@88opensi (John Ferguson) writes:
>>Heritage Cablevision (and parent TCI) is just another example of the greed
>>which seems to be all pervasive in this country these days.  Without
>>regulation, these slimebags will rip you for whatever they can get away with.
>>No, they really don't have *any* excuse for being as expensive as they are or
>>being any more expensive than any other cable provider.  60 channels is the
>>same as zero, when the cable is out of order.
>
>Cable TV is an excellent opportunity for the formation of a
>buyers' cartel.  The seller has lots of capital invested in
>physical plant that it would be very expensive or infeasible to
>remove, e.g. cable on poles.  The product is a luxury: people
>can survive for days or even weeks without it.  If a substantial
>minority (maybe 20-30%) of the customers worked together, they
>could issue an ultimatum: meet our demands or we all cancel.
>--
>Howard Gayle
>HAL Computer Systems, Inc.
>1315 Dell Avenue
>Campbell, California 95008
>howard@hal.com
>Phone: 408-379-7000 ext. 1080
>FAX  : 408-379-5022

I am writing my cable company and complaining about the loss of service caused
by their carrying the Olpmpics.  Their cable box ( Zenith as most systems use )
goes up to channel 78 ( the highest currently used is 41 ) and they STILL had
to drop channels 3 10 and 13 to carry the Olympics. I did not pay to watch the
Olympics ( my choice ) and I STILL had a loss of service.  They will say they
had to use those channels because some of their subscribers do not have the 
cable box,  well too bad.  Why should I have to be deprived of services I am
paying for?

In light of this, I am deducting from my next bill an amount of 10 percent
of the total bill pro-rated for the time frame of the Olympics for the 10
percent loss of services ( 3 is 10 percent of 30, the number of channels I
am paying for) as a breech of contract for failure to provide services I have
paid for.  Life is expensive enough without having to pay for something I do
not recieve.

Now, I may or may not get anything out of this, BUT if everyone who lost
service did this they would be liable for a LOT of money. Say it was only
one dollar, but they has 3 MILLION customers.

How is that for an ultimatum?
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: lkvarda@sgi.com (Lisa Kvarda)
Subject: Re: speeding ticket ..... how to limit the damage?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:02:30 GMT

GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN) writes:
>
>how fast you were going.  The only thing you can do is go to traffic
>school and that will keep it off you driving record.  The only
>stipulations involved with traffic school is that you have not been
>and here is where I lose a bit of my memory, I think you can't have
>been 2 times in the last 2 or 3 years, but as I said I am not sure
>of this so maybe you can get this from someone else.  You pay a

  I believe it depends on the county/city.  Some places will let
  you go once a year, some once every other year, and others not
  at all (some place near Santa Barbara is like this)


Lisa
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: housing question: avoiding suburbia in Silicon Valley
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:06:50 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Charleen Bunjiovianna <charleen@ADS.COM> writes:

	Of course, those of us who live in the suburban sprawl do so
	because we're hopelessly addicted to double knit polyester
	slacks, Wonder bread and strip malls.  That it's convenient to
	our jobs is just an added blessing, ya know?

What you're really saying is that you just don't care enough about your
quality of life to do anything constructive about it, right?  I'm
assuming that you're trying to imply that you don't live in suburbia
because you *like* it but rather you see time-to-work as more important
than what-else-besides-work, right?

To the original poster: get yerself a comfy car with a nice stereo and
get used to sitting in traffic.  I did it for almost 2 years (Rockridge
to Mountain View), and would do it again (in fact I did it Berkeley ->
Manhattan for a while, and probably will again at some point).

Or: look *harder* for a job outside of Sillycon Valley ...

/jordan
From: dbagchi@HP-UX (Debasish Bagchi)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Roommate in the Bay Area
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:37:40 GMT

Hi..
This posting is from a friend of mine - you can either reply to this email account (dbagchi@mtview.consilium.com) or leave a message at (415) 969-0194
Thanks...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi there netters!

I have recently moved in to Northern California after getting a job and I am
looking for a roomie to share a two-bedroom apartment with me in Mountain View  area. looking forward to some fun company, hopefully this person should have some interest in movies, music and going out. It's ok if this person is alittle bit territorial but it's great if (s)he has more creative interests in life other than splitting grocerry bills ;-)  with me. I mean I need a reason to get away from work before 8 pm!

If you think I don't have too unreasonable expectations, please reply to this   email account ( dbagchi@mtview.consilium.com) or leave a message at             (415) 969-0194, I'll get back to you ASAP.

Thanks much for your interest!

Sincerely,
    Ashish Ray
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Houseplant followup
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:44:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

A few weeks ago I posted a note looking for houseplant wholesalers
who deal with the public.

I still haven't gotten to Zen in Gilroy, but I have gotten good prices
on plants by shopping the sales at Cost Plus Nursery and Green World
Nursery, in Mountain View and Palo Alto, respectively.  And now my office
looks like a jungle.  Beautiful.  All I need now are a couple of parrots
and a monkey to complete the effect.

I would recommend Cost Plus for the larger (10 inch and up pots) plants
like dracaena, ficus benjamina, corn plant, dieffenbachia, rubber plant,
schefflera, etc.  They're a little pricey at Green World, but GW has an
excellent selection of hanging and flowering plants like gloxinia, impatiens,
Persian violet, and so on.

Kudos to Tanya Davis, who posted the tip about Interior Plant Designs
of San Jose and their plant blowout sale on the first Saturday of each
month.

Charleen
--
Ideofermentation: what happens to good ideas when they go to Congress.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: housing question: avoiding suburbia in Silicon Valley
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:49:20 GMT

sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell) wrote: 
->My wife and I live in lovely Berkely, but employment may make it necessary  
->for us to move close to Mountain View or Cupertino.  I don't mean to  
->insult anyone, but the kind of suburbia that is sprawled all over the  
->place around there is the very stuff I've been trying to get away from all  
->my life!  
->
->Can anybody suggest places we can look at that are less mainstream, and  
->maybe just a bit backwoodsy, but would be closer to somewhere like  
->Mountain View than Berkeley is?

lessee: you could commute from berkeley.  yes, it is a major schlep
... but, when all is said and done, you're back home in berkeley.  i
know people who commute to mountain view from the east bay ... i
commute from mountain view from san francisco.

you could always live in palo alto, which has enough bits of
university culture to be comfortable.  

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: bguest9@bsg9.Corp.Sun.COM (Kristian Skrinak)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: speeding ticket ..... how to limit the damage?
Date: 18 Aug 1992 01:19:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bguest9@bsg9.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bsg9.corp.sun.com


In article 29119@odin.corp.sgi.com, lkvarda@sgi.com (Lisa Kvarda) writes:
>GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN) writes:
>>
>>how fast you were going.  The only thing you can do is go to traffic
>>school and that will keep it off you driving record.  The only
>>stipulations involved with traffic school is that you have not been
>>and here is where I lose a bit of my memory, I think you can't have
>>been 2 times in the last 2 or 3 years, but as I said I am not sure
>>of this so maybe you can get this from someone else.  You pay a
>
>  I believe it depends on the county/city.  Some places will let
>  you go once a year, some once every other year, and others not
>  at all (some place near Santa Barbara is like this)
>

It's even better than that. You can attend trafic school in the state
of California up to 54 times a year, if you recieved a speeding ticket
in each county.

The traffic school laws are 'per county' so an attendance in Santa
Clara does not apply to one in San Mateo. It a loophole I hope they
never close.

The trick is presenting your case. The judge will ask "Have you
attended trafic school in the last (county specific) months?" You say,
"Not in this county."

I am not a laywer and take no responsibility whatsoever if you or
anyone else follows my advice!
From: jfg@spiderman.bu.edu (John F. Gibbon)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: No taxes on scholarships
Keywords: taxes, scholarships
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:32:12 GMT
Organization: Information Technology, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: jfg@spiderman.bu.edu



	While you may have heard, it is worth repeating that the
current U.S. Congress is considering a bill which would make scholarships
and fellowships once again exempt from taxes.  This bill also allows
for all taxes that have been paid on scholarships and fellowships
since 1987 (when they were first taxed) to be refunded.  

	This is obviously beneficial to the entire academic community,
especially graduated students.  Please write or call your representative and
even senators to voice your support for this bill.

It has been introduced in the House of Representatives as HR 4418 by
Rep. Lewis of Florida.


You can call 1-800-347-1997 to get information to find out who is your federal
representative.  Otherwise, you can call the House of Representatives directly
at 202-224-3121.

Spread the word.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: johana!tsw@apple.com (Tom Watson)
Subject: Re: Cable-TV Sci-Fi channel
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:21:57 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: FBN/GRQ Ink.

In article <sv9mbkg.bob@netcom.com>, bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
> 
> Something has been driving me nuts.  Apparently Mt. View and Sunnyvale
> are both rewiring their cable systems, and all over the roads are 
> written - in spray paint - USA - with little arrows pointing up and
> down the street.  Does anybody know what USA means?
> 
USA is for 'Underground Service Alert'.  Being in an area of underground
utilities, if you do any digging, you call them (its an 800 number) and
FOR FREE everyone concerned will come out and tell you where things are
put under the soil (PG&E, Pacific Bell, Cable TV, Water, Sewer).  If you
don't call them and break something, its your bill, if you do call them,
the markings tell you that you are two feet from the pipe/wire, and if
you dig outside that area, its their ticket.  On major construction any
utility has the power to SHUT DOWN digging if it is unmarked.  Even if you
do things in your back yard, they will come out and mark things, its very
nice.  Note that this applies only in California, other states probably
have similar things.
Obviously near a 'USA' marking (that is where the contractor wants to dig)
a utility or someone wants to tear up the street.
------
Tom Watson
johana!tsw@apple.com
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Cable-TV Sci-Fi channel
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:25:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <+54m01_.marv@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
 
|Rumor has it that the Sci-Fi channel will begin broadcasting on 9/24.
|I just called SouthBay Cablevision (my carrier) and they are NOT
|planning on carrying it.
|
|I told them I could get thousands of people in the Bay Area to request
|it and they said "that would help"....
 
A few years ago I got a call from the cable carrier in my area.  They wanted
me to subscribe.  I asked them if they planned on carrying the sports channel.
They didn't.  I told them to give me a call when the did.  

The difference here is they might have gained a customer if they carried the
channel.  So if you do call your local carrier, you might just tell them
that you are not a customer (even if you are), and that you'll subscribe if
they carry the channel.  Their incentive isn't so great if current customers
ask for something.  That is, unless a current customer tells them they will
drop the service if they don't carry the program. 

Marvin,  did you post this to the rec.arts.sf groups with a ba distribution?
 


-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN)
Subject: Re: Cable-TV Sci-Fi channel
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:02:20 GMT

In article <sv9mbkg.bob@netcom.com>,
bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>>>I called South Bay Cablevision and was told they they're in the process
>>>of re-wiring all of Mountain View to use fiber optic lines, and that no
>>>channels will be added to the city's cable lineup until the process is
>>>finished.  I was told it should be done by "this time next year."
>>
>Something has been driving me nuts.  Apparently Mt. View and Sunnyvale
>are both rewiring their cable systems, and all over the roads are
>written - in spray paint - USA - with little arrows pointing up and
>down the street.  Does anybody know what USA means?
>
>

Yes, it stands for underground service alert-what it is is a company that
locates all underground facilities, cable, telephone lines, etc then whenever
anyone digs in that area they send you a print of all the places where you have
plant that are having digging done.  That keeps your lines from being cut.
There is quite a large fine for digging without notifying them and hitting
something.  When I first started with TCI that is all I did was call in USA's
and make sure all our offices were notified of the digging.  We had 9 branch
offices and all the USA's came to our division office.


********************************************************************
*  Alma Woolf          * Woody, you must be an idiot savant.       *
*  Stanford University * Yea, but I cover it well by smiling a lot.*
********************************************************************
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Cable-TV Sci-Fi channel
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:05:30 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <=j0mgyd.calving@netcom.com> calving@netcom.com
(The Lindsay-Geyer Corp) writes:
>"Weeeeeeee'rrreeee co(u?)ooming for youuuuuu..... <names witheld>"
>I saw this on another's TV.  Is this what cable TV has diminished to?   
>The Sci-fi Channel?????  How many good movies are they going to saturate us
>with?

Like an old favorite program began:

	WE control the horizontal.
	WE control the vertical....

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: Lab destroyed film - lost photos
Keywords: film photos lost destroyed Ritz Longs Drugs
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:11:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Jul13.052057.11999@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>The Stoneridge Mall in Pleasanton has a "Express 1 Hour"
>photo lab and I have found them to do excellent work.  I
>took my grandson's birthday party pictures there (5 rolls)

Seems like photo developing in US is still very primitive.
1 hour service in Hong Kong is considered to be the
standard for at least 5 years.  Express service is about 
20 minutes.  Quality is very good too.

George
From: wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: phone # for Southbay Cablevision
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:23:36 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Trailing Edge Technologies, Mountain View, CA

And while you're at it, ask for Comedy Central.

w.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: bala@indetech.com ()
Subject: Furniture for sale:
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:05:16 GMT


Double bed(almost new) $115
Chest of drawers (6' long by 2.5' high by 2' deep) $45
Round kitchen type table $25

Call (415) 813-7053 for information. Offers will be considered.
From: marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: phone # for Southbay Cablevision
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:57:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: user of Netcom Public Access Unix, SF Bay Area


Ooops...forgot to post the phone number (as pointed out by a quick
reader);

   It's 408-727-3900


     -marvin



-- 
Marvin Raab                                  
marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Cable-TV Sci-Fi channel
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:15:53 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <+54m01_.marv@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>
>Rumor has it that the Sci-Fi channel will begin broadcasting on 9/24.
>I just called SouthBay Cablevision (my carrier) and they are NOT
>planning on carrying it.

Heh.  Well, as luck would have it, I got a call last night from a woman
who was doing some marketing research for a local cable company.  (Don't
remember which one; which serves Campbell?)

Anyway, I told her that I personally did not have a TV set, but that all
my friends wanted the SF Channel.  She asked me for phone numbers, and I
told her to look on the Net......
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"