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From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: Medication
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:02:07 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <BvDBuL.M16@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v064myby@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christophe J Quaranta) writes:
> 	On the subject of medication & flying, didn't astronaut Wally Schirra
> used to advertise Actifed?  It's a cold medication - he suffered a cold on the
> Apollo 7 mission, and said he used it during space travel.
> 	Well I've taken the stuff - I won't even run the dishwasher when 
> I'm on the stuff - makes you very hyper indeed.

Odd. I've used Actifed from back when I was a child, and it was a prescription
medication. 

It doesn't affect me this way. Drixoral is more effective overall, while
Actifed seems to focus narrowly on nasal congestion (for me, anyway). 

Drixoral makes me noticably sleepy. Actifed doesn't seem to have any such
affect. Niquil (or generic substitutes) knock me out (but that's what they
are supposed to do). 

Of course, they are different medicines. Actifed is a nasal decongestant /
antihistimine, Drixoral is a long-lasting decongestant / antihistimine,
and Niquil adds analgesic (acetominophin) and a near expectorant (alcohol). 

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From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Subject: SJC -> Wichita, KS in 172, advice? 
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 07:50:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

A pilot friend and I are going to fly from San Jose to Wichita, KS in 
a 172.  Does anyone has any exprience flying from and to the same region?

How long does it take in a 172 with standard fuel tank, considering stopping
for fuel, etc, in good weather?  At what power setting? 

Is direct route possible?  The airport elevations along that way don't
seem to go beyond 6000'. 

The trip is within this month, what kind of hazard to look out for?  
Wind?  Snow?  F16's? 

Where best to stop for fuel? 

Did I leave out anything?

Thanks in advance.
From: dth@reef.cis.ufl.edu (David Hightower)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: gear-down check
Keywords: gear-down, FAA
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:32:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

When I was going through Air Traffic Control school, we were taught
several acronyms to help us remember what to tell the pilots.  Among
them were:

	To a pilot on initial contact, inbound for landing: DR. WAR

	D - traffic Direction
	R - Runway
	W - Wind
	A - Altimeter
	R - Reporting point (i.e. downwind)

 	To a pilot that had entered the pattern, asking 
	for landing clearance: AWWC

	A - Advisories (ground obstructions, etc)
	W - check Wheels down 
	W - Wind
	C - Cleared to land

Liability my foot.  A controller is no more liable than a policeman
telling you to "have a safe trip" when you later have an accident.  It's
a courtesy, nothing more, nothing less.  I always did it, since it
sounds professional; most of those I worked with did too.

_________________________________________________________________________
Dave Hightower		|    opinion? I'm allowed to have an opinion?
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From: landry@solvit.enet.dec.com (Chris Landry)
Subject: Re: AUDIO TAPE GROUND SCHOOL: ANY AVAILABLE?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:47:49 GMT


>In article <1992Sep24.192234.9062@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>
>tostan@bert.lerc.nasa.gov (Stan Mohler) writes:
>> There used to be a set of audio tapes with a workbook you could buy from a
>> Denver-based company called ATC which contained a complete ground school for
>> the Private Pilot exam.  They also had one for instrument rating.  I don't
>> think ATC exists anymore.  Does anyone know where I can get an up-to-date
>> set of audio tapes like this?  Mind you, I'm looking for COMPLETE ground
>> schools.  Not "review" tapes.
> 
I used an audio tape set from Flight Tech, Inc., 936 South Indian Bend,
Pueblo West, CO  81007.  I have no idea if they are still in business but
you can try at 800-221-0348.  I bought the tapes used (and cheap) 'cause
they were one test cycle out of date.   They came with a workbook of
maybe 200 pages that is full of test questions, charts & graphs, chart
samples, etc.  I think there's 20 tapes or so.

I didn't go to a formal ground school 'causse I had a conflict on the 
night it was offered.  I studied from the Jepp book, used the Gleim book
for test review, and listened to the tapes driving to and from work for
review.  I'd look over the workbook when I got home for the stuff I'd
heard that day.  Of course, they say to listen to the tapes with the
book open in front of you, but I would have been bored stiff.

I don't think I'd recommend the tapes for your primary means of learning,
but I thought they were fine as I used them.  The narrator, "Larry Lassiter"
has a bit of a southern accent and is easy enough to listen to.  I thought
the material was covered quite slowly and even fast forwarded through some
sections.  (but then I didn't find much of the private material difficult
to learn - just that there was a lot of it!)  He's full of silly mnemonics
(like the two Sweedish fellows - SWEVEN and NEODD for VFR cruising
altitudes).

If anyone wants the tapes I have, you can have them for the price of 
shipping.  First come, first served.  However, they are based on the 
1986-1988 test and any differences between then and now are your
responsibility.  There's 20 tapes, but there's supposed to be 21.
Looks like I'm missing the last one.

chris

Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: bark@ns.network.com (Steven D. Barkley)
Subject: Re: Beginner needs advice...badly!
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 20:17:02 GMT

In article <122140255@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> jle@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jer/ Eberhard) writes:
>>  I've never heard of anyone doing it in 40 hours.
>
>Now you have!  Private Pilot, ASEL, Part 141, 37.2 hours.
>
>Jer/ Eberhard, (SLASH), HAM = N0FZD     | Hewlett-Packard - MS99, 1UP10,15'East

Now hear from another. I did it under Part 61 in 40.x hours.  I also got my 
Instrument in the minimum req'd 40 hours. Don't take this as bragging, just
proof that an average person can do it.  Fly frequently and study!

Steve Barkley  PP,ASEL,MEL,IA
bark@network.com
Network Systems Corp
Minneapolis, MN
(612)424-4888

"Fly, because you can't beat fun for a good time"

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Subject: Re: Beginner needs advice...badly!
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From: mark@sscvx1.ssc.gov (MARK HALL)
Subject: Genave avionics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:48:00 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) 
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: FAA literature
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) 

DB> .I am trying to learn about air tracffic control (ATC). Is their a set
  > .of books and/or periodicals that I can get information from? I will be
  > .getting an FAA manual from a pilot friend of a friend. Are there many FAA
  > .volumes? Are there specific ones on ATC?

The ATC "bible" is FAA document 7110.65, which is at Rev. G now, I
believe.  It's available on subscription from SuptDoc.  There is also a
Journal of ATC.  I'll try to resurrect the subs. information for this
one.

There are a few Tower and Center types that hang around here, so you
should be able to get your questions answered...

        D/

 * OLX 2.2 * Real Pilots enjoy NDB approaches to minimums!
From: jaw10@amdahl.com (Jim Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: help -- I've joined the Moonies!
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:18:48 GMT
Reply-To: jaw10@amdahl.com (Jim Williams)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <BvBBtw.DA3.2@cs.cmu.edu> dst+@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) writes:
> 1) One of the birds we're flying is a 1978 model with a Piper Arrow-style
throttle quadrant.

1977 and some 1978 Moonies had the throttle quadrant you speak of. All newer 201s have the Cessna 
style controls. Personally, I prefer the throttle quadrant, IMHO.

 > 2) What's the story with the gear horn?  Sometimes it sounds a continuous
tone; other times it's a regular on-off-on-off beeping pattern.

The gear horn is supposed to make an on-off-on beeping pattern to distinguish it from the stall horn.
It seems that the gear horn failing in that fashion is a common failure mode. My 1977 201
gear horn failed in the same way. It should be repaired.

>  3) The 201 has a Lycoming IO-360 engine.  Do you ever lean this for taxi to
prevent plug fouling?

I always leaned my 201 during taxi to about half the lean travel. Every Mooney driver I know
does as well.

 > 4) For touch and goes, we've been doing our best to raise the flaps to the
take-off position after adding full throttle but before rotating.

I don't do touch and goes in complex aircraft. I feel it's too easy to have a gear mishap while
reconfiguring on the go. I couldn't recommend having a student doing touch and goes
who is transitioning to a complex aircraft. 

Jim @ jaw10@amdahl.com
From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: How about:  Too cold to fly?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 01:14:31 GMT
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
NNTP-Posting-Host: skybridge.scl.cwru.edu

Wish I could recall the name of the book on the war in the
Aleution {ok, YOU spell it..} Islands. 

It was full of stories on what happened to ordinary processes
under such conditions.
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Newsgroups: rec.aviation,rec.aviation.misc
From: venky@sas.arc.nasa.gov (Venky Srinivasan)
Subject: qu. on bay tour on 10/10
Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:11:49 GMT

I was planning on taking some visitors on a bay tour this
saturday -- 10/10/92. Someone told me that there were
supposed to be some show  near SF (not the Moffett field
Airshow) scheduled for that weekend, and therefore that Bay
Tours may not be allowed. Does anyone have any info on this?

This is the first time I will be flying the tour, so any tips on
the tour (proper procedures,  no-nos to watch out for) would be much 
appreciated.

E-mail replies  to: venky@sas.arc.nasa.gov appreciated 

Thanks


Venky
Newsgroups: rec.aviation,rec.aviation.homebuilt
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: New Denver TCA NPRM Published
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:45:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: lib.7455
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <69211@hydra.gatech.EDU> randy@khan.gatech.edu (Randal T. Abler) writes:
>The same is true at Atlanta, four parallel runways, orientated east-west.
>The main airport (Hartsfield) is at 1026 MSL, and the highest MEF
>(terrian/obstacle height) under the TCA is 2200 MSL.  The TCA still
>goes up to 12500 MSL.

This is almost true of the new (effective 15 October) Houston TCA. Both IAH
and HOU are in inner circles; IAH has two 14/32s, a 9/27, and an 8/26, while
HOU has two 12/30s, a 4/22, and a 17/35. HOU is about 20 miles southeast of
IAH. The highest obstacles in the area are under the far southwest edge of the
TCA, about 20 miles from HOU, at 2050 MSL. IAH is about 100 MSL, and HOU is 40
or so MSL. Guess what? The TCA goes up to 10,500. Ouch.

>Going under 
>the TCA is fairly easy, since the terrain is relatively flat, although
>the TCA boundaries are not based on any visual landmarks.  VFR clearances
>through the TCA are pretty much restricted to one N-S corridor at
>5000 MSL over ATL.

There's not much around Houston except for the steel mountains I mentioned a
few lines back, and downtown Houston itself (tallest building is about 1100
MSL). Going under the TCA, especially around the north, is a piece of cake.
The south is a bit more crowded, as EFD is about 6 miles southeast of HOU. 
There's an unofficial VFR corridor down I-10 below 2000; it's presently not in
either the IAH TCA or the HOU ARSA (which turns into the new TCA). One nice
thing about the current system is that you can do pretty much anything you
want as long as you do it at 4500; I hope that survives the new TCA.
-- 
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jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    Vote for a REAL change on 3 November: Throw out the check-bouncing,
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Newsgroups: rec.aviation,sgi.rec.pilots
From: lmcgee@bondo.corp.sgi.com (Lee McGee)
Subject: How do I get new rec.aviation newsgroups?
Reply-To: lmcgee@sgi.com	
Organization: Silicon Graphics Corp IS 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:43:45 GMT

When I add the various subgroups (e.g. rec.aviation.announce) that
I want to subscribe to in my .newsrc, I get "bogus newsgroup".

So I can't get to the new groups.

I use an xrn-motif newreader under unix.

Any help would be mucho appreciated!

-- 
________________________________________________________________

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PHONE (415) 390-2403	        
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From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:30:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Helicopter abuses (?)
Organization: What, me? Organized?
Newsgroups: rec.aviation

In rec.aviation, jlong@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (John Long) writes:

>    QUESTION: Is this kind of flying *legal*? I KNOW it is not safe, and
>    I KNOW that the only thing that kept anybody from being killed was
>    luck. 

 Sigh. Here we go again. Somebody who already "KNOW"s the answers. 
 Certainly the skill of the pilot and the familiarity of the crew with
 the procedures have nothing to do with it...it's just pure luck that
 nobody got killed.

 ..glen



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From: richards@owl.nstn.ns.ca (Mark Richardson)
Subject: Christavia MK IV  Homebuilt
Keywords: Homebuilt Christavia
Organization: Software Kinetics Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:40:10 GMT

Hi ya, Folks

Quite a while back I noticed there was a guy posting some articles on 
building his Christavia MK IV.  Had I any functioning brain cells at the
time, I would have noted his name and, yes, even saved the articles.  If
any one knows how to contact him through E-mail, please drop me a line ,
(please use E-mail rather than the group.  Our feeder has been a little
flaky lately).

Taking the big plunge

Mark

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Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: barriost@gtephx.UUCP (Tim Barrios)
Subject: Re: sailplane picture posted in alt.binaries.pictures.misc
Summary: more general aviation pictures (and request for more)
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:37:04 GMT

In article <122140252@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, rjc@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rich Carr) writes:
> I have posted some glider photos from calendars to 
> alt.binaries.pictures.misc.  Look for "glider" in the title.

I've allways wanted more pictures of general aviation aircraft.  Could
others post pictures to alt.binaries.pictures.misc for us all to see?

To help keep things going, I've posted a picture of my Cherokee 180 to 
alt.binaries.pictures.misc also.  The plane happens to be for sale
(1965 Cherokee 180, 1700 TT, IFR, $25k).

-- 
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From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: Flying for the Environment: Legal opinion
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:31:19 EDT
Followup-To: rec.aviation
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

Margaret,

I for one, enjoy reading about your flying activities. Please don't interpret
this as a response against them, or for conscientious citizens reporting
questionable activities to the authorities.

In article <1992Sep30.162917.3302@leela.cs.orst.edu>, mpucket@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Margaret Puckette) writes:
> At a recent conference, I met an attorney for the Sierra
> Club Legal Defence Fund who said he could provide me with a legal
> opinion based on precendent pertaining to sighting (and reporting)
> illegal activities from my airplane.
> 
> There are basically two kinds of aerial search activities, according
> to this attorney:  those conducted as an operative of the U. S.
> Government, and those conducted by private individuals.  Both fall
> under the Plain View Doctrine which (as the name implies) states that
> an illegal operation in plain view is subject to a search or investigation
> *without* a warrant.  

If, indeed, illegal activities are taking place, such action is warranted.

The question in my mind is -- is it legal to search a *LEGAL* operation
without a warrant, even if such an operation has a similar appearance to
an illegal operation?

In this case, we're not talking about the rights of people involved in 
illegal activities, but the rights of citizens whose sole crime is the
appearance of illegal activity. 

> One precaution:  it is illegal to make *false* reports.

Under Civil or Criminal law? And what happens in the situation where someone
makes a truthful report, but no illegal activities are involved?

Happy Landings!

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Newsgroups: rec.aviation.homebuilt
From: hugh@ipc11.gvl.unisys.com (Hugh Pepper)
Subject: Re: ultralights
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:41:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.212259.4331@wam.umd.edu> buffalo@wam.umd.edu (Duncan D. Sterling) writes:
>The U S Ultralight foundation of Mount Airy, Maryland is probably the
>premier source of ultralight information currently available.  They
>publish a bimonthly newspaper called "Ultralight Flying".
>
>USUF's phone number can probably be obtained from information, and your
>local library can probably direct you to a reference work that'll have
>an address for Ultralight Flying.
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Duncan Sterling          buffalo@wam.umd.edu   GT750L, KH500A8, CA175K3
>University of Maryland    "Yeeehaaa!" - Slim Pickens in "Dr. Strangelove"   
>College Park, Md.         "2 strokes are quicker than 4" - anonymous 


The address for Ultralight Flying Magazine is :

PO Box 6009
Chattanooga, TN 37401-9981

Just received my second issue!!

Have fun, 

Hugh - Hugh@ivy.unisys.com - KE3BI


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Newsgroups: rec.aviation.homebuilt
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: BD10
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:20:20 GMT


The BD 10 is considered a homebuilt, right?

Where can I get more info...I don't want one..just more info!
--
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                    ***** perlman@zach.fit.edu ***** 
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Newsgroups: rec.aviation.homebuilt
From: eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello)
Subject: Re: Subaru Power??
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 23:31:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.095615.25245@actrix.gen.nz> Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.014336.14004@leland.Stanford.EDU> eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello) writes:
>> 
>> The problem is that it can't tell how many molecules it "counts"
>> are oxygen, and how many are nitrogen.
>
>
>That would only matter if the proportion of O2 to N2 (well, to the
>total composition, really) varied with altitude.
>
>Does it?
>
>I wouldn't have thought so, since O2 and N2 are such similar molecules
>with only a 14% difference in molecular weight and therefore a 7% difference
>in molecular velocities.
>-- 

I know of at least one auto manufacturer who thought it was significant.
They put a small altimeter on a MAF equipt FI engine to compensate for
oxygen depletion in high altitude driving.


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