HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Camden `Snake-Oil' Parks)
Subject: BOXSCORE: phi07njn09.21nov92
Reply-To: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:47:30 GMT

phi 104, njn 95   21nov92

phi ( 3- 4)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
weatherspoon,clar 35   6  16   0  0   2  2   5  8   3  3  0  1  1  0  0  0   14
gilliam,armon     35   5  15   0  0   5  6   2 16   0  2  1  3  1  0  0  0   15
lang,andrew       36   2   5   0  0   1  2   5 14   1  5  1  2  2  0  0  0    5
hornacek,jeff     37   8  16   0  1   3  4   1  3   5  1  2  4  0  0  0  0   19
hawkins,hersey    39  14  24   1  3  10 11   3  5   1  3  2  1  0  0  0  0   39
grant,greg        15   0   3   0  0   0  0   0  0   6  1  1  1  0  0  0  0    0
bol,manute         7   0   1   0  0   0  0   1  2   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
anderson,ron       5   0   3   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  2  1  0  0  0  0    0
perry,tim         15   1   3   0  0   4  4   2  3   1  2  0  0  0  0  0  0    6
payne,kenny       11   3   5   0  0   0  0   0  1   1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    6
dawkins,johnny     5   0   2   0  1   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
phi totals       240  39  93   1  5  25 29  19 52  18 18  9 13  4  0  0  0  104
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .419   .200   .862       team rebs  5
procedure technicals 1

njn ( 4- 5)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
addison,rafael     7   0   2   0  0   0  0   0  3   0  0  1  1  0  0  0  0    0
coleman,derrick   38   6  14   0  0   4  5   5 14   4  5  0  5  2  0  0  0   16
bowie,sam         22   2   9   0  0   2  4   5  8   1  0  0  2  1  0  0  0    6
petrovic,drazen   33  10  13   2  3   7  8   1  4   3  4  2  4  0  0  0  0   29
anderson,kenny    30   2  10   0  0   0  0   0  1   7  2  1  1  0  0  0  0    4
morris,chris      25   5  11   0  0   0  0   2  4   1  3  1  1  1  0  0  0   10
robinson,rumeal   20   4   7   0  0   1  2   0  1   3  2  1  2  0  0  0  0    9
williams,jayson   17   4   7   0  0   1  4   2  7   0  4  0  0  1  0  0  1    9
dudley,chris      16   0   2   0  0   0  2   4  8   1  3  0  1  1  0  0  0    0
brown,chucky      19   3   8   0  0   2  2   3  7   2  1  1  1  0  0  0  0    8
george,tate       13   2   7   0  0   0  0   0  0   1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    4
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
njn totals       240  38  90   2  3  17 27  22 57  23 24  7 18  6  0  0  1   95
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .422   .667   .630       team rebs  6

phi   22  19  25  38  -  104
njn   22  29  19  25  -   95

attendance 11515, time 2:00, officials: HHollins,DStafford,GToliver
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From: greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Green)
Subject: Re: Pippen Overrated? (was Suns Report: Phoenix dominates Jazz)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:21:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.165920.16045@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>
>You're right about one thing, those stats don't prove anything at all.
>Rodman is depressed

For which he has my sympathy and a box of tissues.  If a migrane is a lame
excuse, what about depression?

>Dominique Wilkins?  Last I heard, 'Nique was averaging over 30 ppg and
>shooting better than 50%.  Not as well rounded as Pippen, but a good notch
>or two ahead of him in scoring and a slightly better rebounder.

Just a reminder, the Bulls have the (IMO) greatest scorer of all time in #23.
Were it not for Mike, Pippen's scoring average would probably be comperable to
Wilkins.  And Scottie has a left hand!


Shawn Green
greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
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From: bidlack@eecs.umich.edu (Clint Bidlack)
Subject: pistons schedule off net ?
Organization: University of Michigan AI Lab
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:12:56 GMT



Looking to get pistons schedule (and others) off net. Anyone know where
I may get such stuff. Also, are team/player stats located at some ftp site?

Thanks in advance. Please reply via email.

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From: ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bullets over Boston
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:55:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: ora.Bxwx7t.20M
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.


                Bullets 101 - Celtics 97
                ------------------------

With Pervis Ellison on the bench, the C's couldn't take advantage of
their frontcourt and drifted off into the loss column for good in the
final 30 seconds. Boston trailed most of the way, and spent the better
part of the evening settling for outside jumpers which were not
falling.  Reggie Lewis went something like 8-21.  McHale showed some of
his former offensive self, but the Bullets, particularly Tom Gugliotta,
ran circles around him at the other end.  Actually, Washington ran
circles around everyone but Sherman Douglas for most of the night.

Gugliotta is the real McCoy - I'd put him up against Laettner any day.
I wish wish wish the C's could've made a deal for him.  The other
Bullet that impressed me was guard Doug Overton (late of Australia and
the CBA).  Good ball handler, shooter, hustler.  Young Brent Price is
the spitting image of his brother, and saw a fair number of minutes.

Other Celtic lowlights:  Gamble guarded Tom Gugliotta and Don McLean,
giving up 4 inches and plenty of points.  He couldn't get free for his
jumper all night.  Fox had 2-3 stupid turnovers, Lewis didn't pass his
way out of paper bag. Boston slips further towards the cellar of the
Atlantic division.  Pinckney has a left calf strain, and Lewis is said to
be suffering from a couple a sore quads.  

Marcus Webb was at big man's practice the other day - waiting in the
wings. C's host the Jazz tonight.  Utah has never won a regular season
game at the garden.
-- 
        Ellie Cutler

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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: What's wrong w/ Dikembe?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:49:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Nov16.194909.4650
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <wf1noxu00iUyQ6oXU2@andrew.cmu.edu> mc83+@andrew.cmu.edu (Myung Joon Choi) writes:
>I am in a fantasy basketball league and am interested in trading for
>Dikembe Mutombo.  Could anybody who has seen some Denver games this year
>tell me why his numbers are down so far, and if there is hope for
>improvement later on.

Well, with Chris Jackson gunning away, Mutombo has not gotten any shots this
year.  Reminiscent of the effect Jackson had on Shaquille at LSU.  Not good.
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Why Golden State will be the next dynasty.
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:40:01 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <102524@bu.edu> kpho@acs.bu.edu (Kevin Pho) writes:
>Reasons why Golden State will be THE basketball team of the 90's.
>  
>1. Ability to Score at Will.

As a Warrior fan here are some reasons they won't be the team of the 90's
if they don't do something.

Rebounding: Plain and simple they can't rebound. Owens leads the team in
rebounds, Hill is their best rebounder, but offensive liabilities and 
foul trouble limit his minutes. The rest of the "big" guys are not 
great rebounders. Mullin is currently averaging ~3 rebounds a game, including
2 games where he played 44 and 38 minutes respectively without getting
ONE rebound. 

Defense: Sprewell can play defense, but Mullin and Sarunas can't, Owens
is just average(note Laettner taking him apart in the first half so they
had to take Billy off him), no center on defense, and Hardaway is not
playing defense nearly as well as he did his first 2 years(Nellie needs
to get on Timmy a bit, he's my favorite player on the team, but his head
is too big right now).

They are an exciting team and will win game and make the playoffs again but
if they stay pat, they will never get better.

In this morning SJ Mercury, Bud Geracie addressed this issue saying essentially
what I said last year, they are stuck, not good enough to get over the other
teams in the West, but too good to get a high enough draft pick to get the 
big man they need. He says only Owens and Hardaway should be untouchable in
a trade. This is interesting because last year, like the rest of the media
here, he was calling Mullin the franchise and a poor man's Bird. Apparently 
people are starting to realize that Chris is not a franchise player, and never
will be and his value might be best used in a trade. Geracie is talking Hakeem
of course, and it would take a bit more than Mullin to get him, but they
really ought to make a deal.

One last Mullin rip, he's averaging under 3 assists a game with 2 games all
ready with 0 assists! How can a man who is that good of a passer get so few
assists in a wide open full court offense? Answer, he has become a selfish
player on the court, I said it last year and I'll say it again, he is not
incapable of passing the ball, he's unwilling.




Russ Smith
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Subject: Re: Fixed amount of paint per player..
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:24:50 -0600

In article <1992Nov18.230823.2416@gacvx2.gac.edu>  writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.040045.879@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>  writes:
>>In article <1992Nov17.142001.2373@gacvx2.gac.edu> emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp) writes:
>>>What do you all think of this? I think it would make the game more fun to
>>>...
>>I just read in one of the magazines that some tournament gave each team an
>>allotment for the first round and then another (different) allotment for
>>...
>>As for regular weekend fun playing, I'd like to see something similar but I
>>don't see as how you'd be able to enforce it effectively.  From my
>>experience, there's just too many people who like to hose.
>
>It would have to be by concensus, I guess.
>The reason I asked is that I have only played once (one 3-hour day with about 15-20 friends)
>and we had limited amounts of $$. The result seems to be different from what I hear about
>"hose-ball." I played with a semi-auto, so I did get to spray a few times.. But the risk
>of doing so made it all the more exciting, I think.

Let me add that nothing matched the joy of watching members of the other team sneak
through the forest and then killing them with one "splat." I managed this at least twice
that day.. It was great.
From: d2jo@dtek.chalmers.se (Johnny Johanson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: PMI-III or a pump?
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:12:27 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

agillum@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Aaron C Gillum) writes:

>I've found the stock Sl-68 to be horrid. I played with one at a field (rental)
>and I was amazed to watch paint come out of the barrel and make 45 degree 
>turns.

The accuracy of the SL68-II is far from good, but if it worked as poorly as
you described, there was something wrong with that gun. Properly maintained
they work ok.
I would say that the accuracy of the SL68-II is probably similair to that of
a Trracer gun...


// Johnny



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From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Opinion of various paintguns
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:45:38 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Monday November 16 1992 16:33, Geoffrey Heller wrote to All:

 GH> Automag
 GH> =======
 GH> Probably the best semi I have seen to date.  Very high rate of fire, and
 GH> overall a nice feel.  I recommend that you don't get the drilled-hole
 GH> rifled barrel if at all possible though.  The holes are a pain in the
 GH> butt.  (more on this later)  Also, the Armson (sp?) barrel is available
 GH> (although not to the general public yet) for this gun.  For those of you
 GH> who don't know, the Armson barrel is a micro-tolerance lathed rifled
 GH> barrel.  There seems to be a bit of accuracy improvement, but not really
 GH> a whole lot.

The automag doesn't break balls if you keep the nubbin wire adjusted to the
size paint you are using (yes, Virginia, not all paint is the same diameter).
Last Saturday I shot 800 rounds through mine with a Smart Parts barrel, and
didn't get a single broken ball. I've also found, from using the SP barrel
on a PMI-3, which does break balls, that holding my hand over the end of the
barrel muzzle to close it off, with no ball in the chamber of course, and
firing a few bursts of CO2 will clean it out if you swab it first. The Armson
barrel is available for the 'mag now. It is not as much an improvement on the
'mag as it is on other markers that are less accurate to start with. But, it
is an excellant and accurate barrel, as you write, no doubt about it.

John

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From: hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Your Opinions on Paint.
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:20:24 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY



I just wanted to get some opinions on Paint brands. I will be
purchasing some paint locally,(Sorry John!) and I wander what will
work best with my new Trracer (Thanks, John!). Trracer paint, RP
Scherer,etc. Which is best? Under what weather conditions?

Thanks,

Joey Hargis
Hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet


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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Fixed amount of paint per player..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:07:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.015450.16317@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.195141.9273@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>[...]
>>What's there to enforce?  After frisking players (at the chrono) and
>>lketting them onto the field.  If they wanna hose their 40 rounds, let 'em.
>>After that they can play decoy. ^_^
>
>Frisking?  I don't THINK so!  We are (at least I was :-) talking about
>recreational playing.  Frisking as part of playing in a tournament is one

Well, if you are playing with your own group of buddies, you can probably
forego the frisking part. ^_^  For the walk-on game...who know's what evil
lurks on the minds of men... ^_^



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From: bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith)
Subject: Re: How do you like your semiauto?
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:41:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.004133.2116@panix.com> henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:
>
>Can you tell me a little bit more about the smart parts barrel for the
>Pro-Am?  

I don't own a Pro/Am but I just got on a team here in Florida (P.O.S.S.E)
that basically only shoot Pro/Am's.  The difference between the stock barrel
and the Smart Parts barrel is worth 100 bucks.  Lets say if you aim at the
head of a human sized target at 100 feet with the stock barrel, you will hit
the kneecaps.  With the Smart Parts you will hit the neck.  It really brings
the ball up.  PRO/AM + SMARTPARTS = GOOD BUY.... On a side note, AutoMag +
Smart Parts = Nochange.  I am kinda pissed about this I could have gotten
a Ultra Dot.

>As for the foregrip, send Tippmann $8 to cover shipping and handling and
>they'll send out the aluminium alloy forearms.  I'm not sure, but I think
>Tippmann switched back to the aluminium forear because some of the
>Pro Am I see on the field (with a serial # later than mine) have the aluminium
>ones instead.

Yes, order the aluminum foregrip, the guys on my team have blown 7 of these
foregrips, before they all converted over to aluminium.

>On Prodigy, someone annouced that Paintball Sport of Maryland came out with
>a powerfeed (just like Auto-Mag, and approved by AGD) for the Pro-Am.

Ya, It would be interesting, don't know if it really helps though, the slow
part of the Pro/Am is it cycling.  BTW how did you like that honest 
recommendation from one of the employees of PSofM.

Bjs (MJPC20E) on Prodigy











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From: bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith)
Subject: Re: How do you like your semiauto?
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:55:30 GMT

>I am in the market for a cheaper and less "targetable" alternative to shelling
>out 70 bucks.  Any suggestions?  (I can deal with loseing a little capacity if
>it's a good product, but I still want to keep the capacity over a 100 or so)
> 

Well I hated the VL-90 that came with the AutoMag (What a joke) but better
than the 40 round stuff you get from everybody else, at least it is useable.

So I bought a 15 dollar Dominator 230 it's front profile is about 20% larger
than the VL-90.  Heck at 15 bucks I will try anything once.  I am very happy
with it.  Yes you have the problem of the balls not falling down with the 
AutoMag, but that just makes you stop shooting.  I have about 9 balls lined
up before I have to worry about shaking.  

On a side note, don't PACK your loaders, leave some breathing room, otherwise
they will not feed.

Bjs



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From: petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz)
Subject: Re: How to refill air bottles
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:16:41 GMT

In article <Bxv1KI.7qq@world.std.com> kovar@world.std.com (David C Kovar) writes:
>  Ok, really silly question, but it's not entirely obvious. You own your 
>own gun and you're running out of air at the field. Do you keep spare bottles
>on you, or in the car, or will all the good fields refill it for you. If
>so, how much do they charge? Or do they swap out the bottles? Or .....
>Inquiring minds want to know.
>
all of our players have at least 2 bottles. heavy users have 4.
some use 12 oz on low gas guns


cu
-pete



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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Price Lists
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:56:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.121140.4152@wkuvx1.bitnet> hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>
>Let's keep this group away from becoming "Commercialized."
>This group is already commercialized! We talk about different
>products, what we like, dislike, etc. If you dont want to read John's
>posts about Hamiliton Hobbies then put them in your kill file, or
>don't read them.

Talking about the different products for paintball does not make this group
commercialized.  That's what this newgroup is about.  The exchange of
paintball information from players/professionals et al.

To have someone, who owns a store, post his price list, would be like Sears
charging you, me, "the guy down the block" money to distribute Sears
advertisments.  So, Hamilton Hobbies or whoever are free to post news,
reviews on new products, but please if you're goin to advertise, take out
an ad in APG or something.
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From: mas@sbctri.tri.sbc.com (Marc A. Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Fixed amount of paint per player..
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:48:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.195141.9273@netcom.com>, albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:

|> What's there to enforce?  After frisking players (at the chrono) and
|> lketting them onto the field.  If they wanna hose their 40 rounds, let 'em.
|> After that they can play decoy. ^_^
|> 

or you could just rely on the honor system.  Load 40 rounds into your
hopper and don't reload.  If anyone is consistently cheating it will be
real obvious.  (Heh, that guy just fired 50 rounds at me!)
Xref: sparky rec.sport.paintball:1611 alt.sport.paintball:1220
From: hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Repost:Paint, Which?
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:16:37 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY


This is a repost from a previous post I tried and got no response.

Zander, or Anyone for that matter,

What do you all think is the best brand of paint for summer and
winter play? Is there a difference? 

Which brands do you use? why? Any problems, Pluses,etc.?

Sorry for all the questions. 

Joey Hargis
A "Very Excited" Newbie
at Hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet
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