HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: umueller@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (mueller u)
Subject: Re: xpkmaster.library -- out soon!
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:26:44 GMT

>>  [xpk problems with multiplayer]
>
>Actually, I've used MultiPlayer V1.31 with XPKMaster.library on MODs compressed
>with XDrop but I haven't been able to get PowerPacked mods to decompress.  Since
>there's a compressor that does as good as a job as PowerPaker with the
>XPKMaster.library archive I found on a local BBS, I just compress everything
>with XDrop.  No problems so far.

The XPK package could not be distributed yet publicly since a mag
had the rights to it. These have ended now, so I'll soon upload a new
version to amiga.physik (check comp.sys.amiga.announce). The problem
with MultiPlayer and PowerPacker has been fixed in the meantime.

  -Dominik
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:35:57 EDT
From: Norman St. John Polevaulter <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: What is so special about Amiga

What's so special? Hmm, ask us again after the September World of Commodore
show. :-) :-)

[Your blood pressure just went up.]       Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
       DISCLAIMER: If it ain't money, Penn State doesn't care about it.
   "Ladies and gentlemen, I've suffered for my music! Now it's your turn!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eickler@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Andre Eickler)
Subject: Access to KCS Power-PC partitions from AmigaDOS?
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:39:58 GMT

Hi there!

Does anyone know if it is possible to access partitions of KCS Power-PC
from AmigaDOS, e.g. for doing backups?
We tried fiddling with mountlist entries a bit but they did not work 
(CrossDos). Can it be done with msh?
The drive in discussion is a Supra-Drive (Quantum 105LPS) with 
supradirect.device.

Thanks,
Andre

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kjelli@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjell Irgens)
Subject: Re: Reqtools V38 ??
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:05:40 GMT

In article <monster.04rq@mbear.apana.org.au>, monster@mbear.apana.org.au (Martin Ozolins) writes:
|> 
|> HHmm, I have tried a few versions of 38 and none of them work.
|> Anything that uses it crashes, evem PPMore V2. Even the library from 
|> the latest reqtools20c.lha package does not work for me.

Strange... I've had no problems what so ever with the library and PPmore 2.0
work flawlessly.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sanford@ee.mu.OZ.AU (sanford tong)
Subject: Re: AA Chipset compatibility
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:00:25 GMT

	Hi!

		I've been reading this newsgroup recently about the concerns
about whether or not the AA chipset will work with their machines. I'm not
claiming to be an expert in this area, but the argument about 16-bit->32-bit.
Going by this logic, then doesn't that mean '030 accelerators should never
have existed on the A500?

	If the Chip RAM/bus is too slow, then what's stopping third party (maybe
even Commodore themselves (giggle giggle)) people from putting all the chips
onto a daughterboard with memory slots, like in those accelerators?

	I think that even though data passing from between CPU and the graphics/
sound 'subsystem' may slow down things a little in the 16-bit A500/A2000 systems
i think that AA compatibility shouldn't be dismissed immediately....besides, if
chip RAM was big enough, such transfers can be minimised to just instructions
to the custom chips, no? (ideally, of course)

		Just a few observations out of the blue......


				sanford@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
From: Mike_Noreen%cave@sweden.eu.net (Mike Noreen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A3000 with ROM -> A3000 superkickstart?
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:12:12 GMT
Organization: The Misty Cave BBS +46 753 33132

Is it possible to modify an A3000 with kick37.175 in ROM to behave like a
Superkickstart machine, and load the kick from disk?
This would be real handy, since I quite often run kick1.3 programs, and
kick1.3 doesn't survive reboot if you have the kick in ROM.
(the fact that it would be much easier to upgrade kickstart when a new one
becomes available doesn't hurt either...)

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Mike_Noreen%cave@sweden.eu.net
cave!Mike_Noreen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: AA chipset in the A3000 -> I expect it!
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:16:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.103749.18984@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>
>If there is no upgrade policy here, I'll buy a 486.

What sort of upgrade could you expect in an A2000?  The only way of getting the
4x speedup needed to take advantage of AA would be a new motherboard with
32-bit data bus, and hence a 32-bit cpu.  I wouldn't expect Commodore to supply
one, but that doesn't mean that one won't become available - look at the
Pheonix board for the A1000.  That could be quite viable for someone to produce
(assuming C= won't) - there's all those Toaster users to sell to.

In any case, an upgrade for an A2000 won't be cheap.  Whether or not it's
worth it depends on the price of the new machine(s).

>Why should the States
>get all the upgrade policies when they aren't even the people keeping
>the Amiga alive?!  :-(

Probably because we buy too many Amigas here - there's no incentive for C=
to offer special deals.  Anyway, getting a trade-in on an old machine is a
bit of a gimmick; it's not as if they can use the old one for anything.
That's why they've only required a manual cover or whatever.  All it is
really is a price reduction.  So, how do you know that C= Australia aren't
selling at what's effectively a reduction anyway?  The prices of A3000's
here aren't really that much higher than in the US, as far as I can tell.

What I'm saying is that it's just marketing.  You should look at the price
of the new machine, what you can get for the old one (not much in a couple
of weeks, probably!  ;-) and see whether the cost of trading up is worth it
compared to buying a 486.  Whether is happens to be called an "upgrade"
price, as part of a C= promotion, is irrelevant.


>Colin Adams       Honours Student - James Cook University of North Queensland
>  "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths 


-- 

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From: G.Roberts@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Graham Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A600 price cut
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:27:34 GMT


Some good news?
Commodore UK have officially cut the price of the A600 to 299 pounds
(was 399 pounds). The A600 HD stays at 499 pounds. It is claimed that 
65,000 A600 machines have been sold in the first 3 months of sales
(in the UK). A reason given for the price cut was the high reliability
of the machine, with less than 1% returned.
(Tough luck if you were one of the 65,000 who bought an A600 at the
old price though?)

Also, the A570 is now supposed to be available, although I've yet to
see one in the shops myself - anyone? Apparently, it has an IDE hard
drive connector (not SCSI), comes with the Fred Fish CD and costs 399
pounds. 

Graham
G.Roberts@uk.ac.ucl.cs
From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Wrong diskfont.library (36.??)
Summary: Look on AmigaFonts disk
Keywords: diskfont library version fountain
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:41:25 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <tomme.715299643@Minsk> tomme@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Thomas Holmstr|m) writes:
>When I try to run Fountain it says I need v37 of diskfont library. The
>version command says my diskfont.lib is v36.?? (I'm not at home now).
>I got all libs with my 2.0 rom upgrade and it's the same on both the
>systems and install disks. Is there a more recent version of the lib and
>why isn't it supplied with the upgrade? Or is it something else that's
>wrong. I don't think anything in my configuration would matter...
>
>_/_/_/_/_/   _/    _/         Thomas  Holmstr|m
>   _/       _/_/_/_/        tomme@Student.docs.uu.se

Thomas, if you look on your AmigaFonts disk, I believe you'll find another
diskfont.library.  This is the v37 one that supports outline fonts.  Check
the size of the file: the v37 diskfont.library is much larger than the
v36 one that is on your Workbench disk.  (In this case this is a better
way to tell the difference between the two, since using the VERSION command
can be deceptive.)

Copy the V37 library to your LIBS: directory.  If this is a Workbench floppy,
you will first need to delete some little-needed utilities or other files
from the disk, so the new library will fit.  The library-size vs. disk-space
problem is the main reason the newer diskfont wasn't on the WB disk by 
default.

This subject is covered in the second and third paragraphs in the Floppy
Based Systems section of the _Amiga Release 2 Getting Started_ manual.

-- 
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employed by, not speaking for:              Commodore Business Machines Inc.
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Help! My amiga can't walk! (Lost its feet)
Date: 3 Sep 92 07:22:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep3.002254.1501
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > All the feet on my A3000 are still there, so that makes 2.  :-)

Wow... we must be on a roll!  ;-)

Or maybe it's just that we don't scoot our A3000s around on the desk, which
tends to pull those sticky little feet right off?  Hmmm....



        -=- Ed


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phillip Dietz)
Subject: ideas for Newlist7
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:34:38 GMT


This letter is to let all newlist users of my new UNIX account: 
pdietz@cse.unl.edu

Newlist is an 'ls' type program.  I am currently writting newlist7, so now
I am looking for intersting ideas that users would like to see.  Odds are
more than likely that your feature will be added.

You can pick up my most recent 'world' distributed version on Fred Fish 597.

Please mail me if you want to send new options/bug reports/need a UUencoded
version.

--
                                                              Phil Dietz
         I love Math ..... Not!                       pdietz@cse.unl.edu
                                                  University Of Nebraska
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: Amiga Function Plotter?!?
Keywords: I need one!
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:22:57 GMT

In article <BttAM3.H42@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> doerrhb@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Heath Doerr) writes:
>Is there a public domain amiga function plotter?
>As in I enter "f(x)=x^2" and it gives me the graph?
>I am in desperate need of such a program.  Any help
>would be greatly appreciated.

Get gnuplot.  It is good stuff!

-- 
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  "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: *NEED* a real-time animation player, i.e. from HD
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:13:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Sam Hulick (shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:

: I need a from-the-HD ANIM player.  I produce huge virtual reality animations,
: and some of them can't be loaded into RAM.  However, the player must NOT slow
: down the animation, i.e. a jerkiness as the frames load.  Thanks in advance.

Hmm, well, you can try RTAP.  It plays directly from HD.  There are
several others.

As for not slowing down the animation, that really isn't a function of
the program so much as your hardware.  If you have, say, a differential
SCSI controller with a really fast HD, you'll be OK for most delta
sizes.  If you only have a 500 Kb/sec controller which causes a lot of
bus contention and your HD is slow, you won't be able to play the anims
from HD as fast as you want.

   - steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: hpesonen@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Subject: Re: AA chipset in the A3000 -> I expect it!
Reply-To: hpesonen@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:16:01 GMT

In article <talan.02w7@tension.UUCP> talan@tension.UUCP (Dave Bicking) writes:
>Why?  (you ask incredulously :).  Well, some time ago, I was a brief intern
>at C= Westchester, and specifically asked about this (long before I purchased
>the A3000).  At _that_ time, they were expecting it to fit in the A3000
>motherboard.  They said that the Motherboard's chip socket had a 32-bit
>bandwidth, while the ECS still only used 16 (eg: they thought ahead).  

Thanks for encouraging my Faith!  :->

Another happy A3000 owner...
-- 
Harri Pesonen, Helsinki, Finland, Europe?
From: cat@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Catherine and occasionally Dan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: SF Amiga BBSs, etc.
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:42:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu



As I find myself about to move to San Francisco and lose my
internet access, can anybody out there let me know of any good
SF Amiga BBSs or ways to connect to the internet (cheaply...) 

Thanks!

Dan Osher
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:36:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep1.213644.1446
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > The 040's main advantage is that it's got a lot more registers so
 > doesn't require as much memory traffic as the 486.


No, the 040's main advantage is that it doesn't run MS-DOG.  ;-)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (The Code Slinger)
Subject: Re: FTP SITE w/ FISH DISKS??? <-----------
Summary:  fish archives ftp
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:19:00 GMT

In article <mtpins.715201568@icaen.uiowa.edu>, mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins) writes...
>billw+@pitt.edu (William R Wilkinson) writes:
> 
> 
>>  Okay, the sites are (US,  those are the ones I know! :-) ):
>>                     ux1.cso.uiuc.edu   This is a 24 hour 7-day site with disks 
>>from about number 91 or so up to current.
>>                      grind.isca.uiowa.edu  I'm not sure about the hours of
>>availability of this one, so it's probably better to wait for evenings and
>>weekends.  This also has an amiga/Read.These directory with aquarium and 
>>fishcat entries.
> 
>While grind is up 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, it is normally considered 
>polite to not ftp large quantities of files during business hours from any
>site due to more important traffic being on the nets at that time.  Of 
>course, if you only need one file, go for it.
> 

I get the following (as part of a larger message) mailed to me from
Mike Schwager whenever there's an update to the ux1 archive:

Fish Archive Spot:
128.174.5.59	ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (disks 100-current)
Lower Fish Available at:
grind.isca.uiowa.edu has FF #1-current,
gatekeeper.dec.com has FF #1-current in /pub/micro/amiga/fish
130.194.1.106 monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Australia) has the last 40 or so

P.S. If you were on the Fishdisks mailing list, you'd already know this.
Send mail to schwager@cs.uiuc.edu to get put onto the list.

Fish Archive Spots: (updated 7/1/92)
128.174.5.59    ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (disks 100-690 and counting.. GO, Fred, GO!)
        Maintained by Mike Schwager (schwager@cs.uiuc.edu)
128.255.19.233 grind.isca.uiowa.edu  has FF #1-current,
        Maintained by Michael T. Pins (amigapd@isca.uiowa.edu)
16.1.0.2 gatekeeper.dec.com has FF #1-600 or so in /pub/micro/amiga/fish
       Maintained by vixie@pa.dec.com   ... does not appear to be current
128.252.135.4 wuarchive.wustl.edu  has the newest in systems/amiga/fish/fish
        (not many disks are there...)
IN AUSTRALIA:
139.130.4.6     archie.au
     a mirror of wuarchive.wustl.edu?  Maintained by ???
IN EUROPE:
128.214.6.100 ftp.funet.fi  carries all Fish disks in /pub/amiga/fish.
        Maintained by Pertti Lehtinen <pl@ftp.funet.fi> and
                   Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@ftp.funet.fi>
137.226.112.31 ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de /pub/amiga/fish
     Maintained by Stefan Becker
<stefanb@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

You're welcome!
Chris
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From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Bad block mapper?
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:46:58 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>The drawback here is that you can't optimize a disk
>using this kind of protection (but it beats not using it at all, eh?).

Is this an absolute?  Or are you saying all current software chokes
when it sees an immutable block?
-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
    "I wonder what's taking Guybrush so long..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: alb@ais.org (Alan Brushaber)
Subject: Looking for MPS or Epson MX-80F/T printer driver
Organization: UMCC - Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:33:35 GMT



Greetings,

  Anyone know where I can find either/both of these drivers? Many
thanks.

Al - alb@ais.org
From: jeannet@meduse.enst.fr (Olivier Jeannet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Wrong diskfont.library (36.??)
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:03:04 GMT
Organization: Telecom Paris, France

In article <tomme.715299643@Minsk>, tomme@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Thomas Holmstr|m) writes:
-> When I try to run Fountain it says I need v37 of diskfont library. The
-> version command says my diskfont.lib is v36.?? (I'm not at home now).
-> I got all libs with my 2.0 rom upgrade and it's the same on both the
-> systems and install disks. Is there a more recent version of the lib and

Yes, there is a v37 diskfont.library, which is about 50 K and can handle
the CG (CompuGraphics) fonts. I don't know how to get it if you already have
your 2.0 update.
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Speculation about A3000T-040 and AA Chipset
Date: 2 Sep 92 05:07:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep1.220724.1446
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Perhaps this is why C=> has not released an 040 card for the desktop
 > 3000 ?

Perhaps so.  In 10 days, we may just find out.  Sure hope so.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: CBM/Amiga vs NewTek/Toaster
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:55:25 GMT

In <1992Aug29.004900.1329@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:


> > And what about BOSE corp (loudspeakers) who refuse to renew your
> > authorized status if you sell the AM5-II below $749?

>So much for "suggested retail price".  This is not the first time I've
>heard of manufacturers having a *minimum* price on something they make. 
>It's very tempting to want this practice made illegal and with sufficient
>penalties to promote compliance.  :-/

 This is not new.  I believe Oakley also does this with their sunglasses.
And I often wonder why one never see's the VCR Plus for less than $59.

 In the local K-Mart there was a display set up where they wanted people
to sign a petition in support of a bill in Congress that would make
this price fixing illegal.  K-Mart feels that they should be able to sell
a product for whatever price they think they can afford to sell it at.

I would tend to agree.  If anybody's interested I'll see if I can't
find the bill number.

Otherwise I'm sure there is a more appropriate newsgroup for such
discussion...

-- 
Steve Sheldon         sheldon@iastate.edu
Iowa Cooperative Soil Survey Resource Unit
2142 Agronomy, Iowa State University  (515) 294-5429

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: MessyDOS....
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:07:24 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

cramer@vivaldi.psu.edu (Michael R. Cramer) writes:

>Does anyone know where I cna find MessyDOS or some other 2.04 compatible
>MS-DOS disk reader thing? I used MSH with 1.3 but it doesn't seem to work
>in 2.04. I had MessyDOS and that seemed to work fine, but I accidentally
>deleted it, and the person I got it from is gone...so I guess, what I'm 
>asking, is...is there an FTP site around with MessyDOS?

MessyDOS and MSH generally refer to the same thing....
The original version of MSH didn't quite work properly with 2.0, but a patch
is available to fix it.
Grab the file MSH1.30p.lzh from grind.isca.uiowa.edu
It contains both the original, and the patch.

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