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From: reece@eco.twg.com (Reece R. Pollack)
Subject: Re: U.S. Naval Observatory and AtomClock
Reply-To: reece@eco.twg.com (Reece R. Pollack)
Organization: The Wollongong Group (East Coast Operations)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:54:12 GMT


In article <8574@hq.hq.af.mil>, snolan@marge.hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan) writes:
|>There was an application named "AtomClock" that would
|>use you modem to dial a number in DC that once belonged
|>to the US Naval Observatory in NW DC.  Their number
|>would answer the phone with a 1200 or 2400 baud modem
|>transmitting the exact time according to the Earth Clock.
|>
|>The application would capture this time, and reset your
|>computer's system clock to the exact time.
|>
|>Overkill? Perhaps.  Fun? definitely.
|>Does anyone know if this service is still being provided?
|>If so what number do we have to ring?
|>I have lost the application that did this little wonder.
|>
|>I am also curious about using a similar technique to
|>get the date from port 13 of a TCP/IP box (if there is
|>one hooked up to the Earth Clock).... how would I
|>find out the IP address to connect to?

Take a look at the NTP protocol before you start playing with
the daytime service. NTP will allow extremely accurate time
synchronization even across wide area networks. There are a
couple of NTP servers on the net which are synchronized by
atomic clocks, and quite a few synched to WWVB.

--
Reece R. Pollack
Senior Software Engineer
The Wollongong Group, Inc.
From: lubell@mimsy.umd.edu (Josh Lubell)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Think C 5 For Sale
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:45:57 GMT
Distribution: md
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

I'm selling Think C Version 5.02 for the Macintosh.  The price is $150
(I paid $200 when I bought it).  The price includes the original
floppies and all documentation.

If interested, email me at lubell@cs.umd.edu or call evenings  before
10 PM at 410-381-6532 (Columbia, MD).

Josh Lubell

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Weather forecasts etc. via telephone
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:48:52 GMT

In article <Bu0Fo8.BwL@netnews.jhuapl.edu> collins@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Skip Collins) writes:
>I recently searched the "blue pages" without success for a U.S. gummit
>official source for weather forcasts.  936 1212 connects one to the 
>phone company's recording.  Does anyone have a number for a NOAA or 
>National Weather Service forecast?

UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT-
  Commerce Department Of-
    National Oceanic And Atmospheric Administration-
      National Weather Service-
        Local & Extended Forecasts  301 899-3240

Page 12 of the current DC blue pages.  There are other numbers for 
recreational and river stages forecasts.

>Speaking of official government phone information services, the only ones
>of which I am aware are the Naval Observatory's time service, 202 653 1800,
>and the Smithsonian star gazer line, 202 357 2000.  Can anyone contribute
>other free, official phone numbers to the cause?

The Smithsonian's Dial-A-Museum number is 202 357-2020.

-- Herb Huston


From: Bruce.Feist@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Bruce Feist)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Disk parameters?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 01:40:26 -0500

 MKH> I need to know how many heads and how many cylinders the ST-225 has; 

If all else fails, you can call Seagate's tech support at 408 438 8222.
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:10:04 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <715903221.F00001@blkcat.UUCP> David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:

>  JA> That's nice.  You're saying that car-pooling makes economic sense. 
>  JA> But what does this have to do with the desirablility of an HOV lane on
>  JA> the Toll Road?
>
>An HOV lane makes car-pooling improves the convenience of car-pooling by
>increasing the time required to go from A-to-B by oneself.

It improves the relative convenience of carpooling over driving
oneself.  It's an open question as to whether carpooling is easier now
than it was before, and if it is, by how much.

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: akerson@deimos.srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp)
Subject: Re: Director's cut of Bladerunner ?
Organization: ARINC Research, Corp.
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 14:52:06 GMT



What is this ?
How does it differ from the original movie ?
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From: cfhammer@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Council for Excellence in Government Criticizes Bush Proposal
Date: 13 Sep 92 09:12:55 -0400
Summary: query
Distribution: dc
Organization: Georgetown University

i wonder if the proposed 5% cut would include bush? anyone know?

-ming
From: neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: HOV and why it should be!
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:57:09 GMT
Reply-To: neve@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine

In article 6810@monster.saic.com, robert@monster.saic.com (Robert W Mangum II) writes:
>Maybe we should have a couple of
>lanes that can only be used by American made cars to encourage
>people to buy American.

Exsqueeze-me?  What exactly is an "American made car"? I'm not sure if
such a creature exists any longer.

Leif Neve
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: Missing the point (was Re: Dulles Toll Road, HOV, and Air Pollution)
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:58:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.134253.22715@linus.mitre.org> woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke) writes:
>The point of the HOV lane is to reduce the number of cars on the road
>by giving carpoolers somewhere to go. I think it is serving that
>purpose. Those people who ride in carpools are now able to get to work

What do you base this conclusion on?

>I don't think the government should be spending money to build roads
>encouraging irresponsible transit habits.  The government should be
>spending money on improving the mass transit system in this area and
>also encouraging bicycling. I biked to work this morning. My 15 mile
>drive from Sterling to the Tysons area turns into a 24 mile bike ride
>in order to find a safer route. (I was almost killed on Rt. 7 last
>Janurary.) If there was a bike lane or path paralleling Rt. 7, or
>connecting to the W&OD, and perhaps one paralleling 123 I would be
>happy. I think more people would ride too. I had to spend about a two
>hours scouting around for a safer (note, it is not safe) route to
>work.

Dan, I might only point out that what might be irresponsible to
you might be a necessity to other people. And your alternatives
which suit your lifestyle might not be an alternative for someone
else.

>
>The government should not encourage polluters in industry, why should
>it encourage polluting commuters? The government is not responsible
>for our behavior, but they should avoid encouraging wrong behavior.

The government regulates pollution in the commercial world by
capping the amounts that are dumped into the air.  It does NOT
penalize the existence of the factories themselves.  Using the
same analogy, it should then put a cap on the amounts of
pollutants that a car can expel.  Perhaps the current limits should
be adjusted?

>Daniel W. Woycke             |"I went out drinking with Thomas 


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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 17:27:24 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <716108512.F00009@blkcat.UUCP> David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:
>
>Okay, let's look at this differently.  Other than reserving sections of highways
>for HOV use, what else do you suggest that Federal, State, and Local governments
>do to further encourage carpooling?

That's begging the question.  The governments should give up and
accept the inevitable: HOV-3 isn't going to work, because the
resistance to three-person carpooling is too strong.  A look at the
Dulles Toll Road should be sufficient to prove that.  If people are
willing to put up with that rather than carpool, 'encouraging'
carpooling isn't going to work-- pure force will be necessary.  If the
governments really want to encourage carpooling, they at least have to
fall back one step, to HOV-2.
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From: David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: HOV - I vote Yea.
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 22:19:59 -0500

  JA is ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
 
  JA> The question should be: Does reserving 1/3 lanes as an HOV-3 lane on
  JA> the Dulles Toll Road have the desired effect of substantially raising
  JA> the number of people who carpool in groups of 3?  If not, the HOV lane
  JA> has nothing to do with the advantages of car pooling.  I have not seen
  JA> any evidence to answer yes to the above question

Okay, let's look at this differently.  Other than reserving sections of highways
for HOV use, what else do you suggest that Federal, State, and Local governments
do to further encourage carpooling?
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: Dulles Toll Road, HOV, and Air Pollution
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:08:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.141012.23501@linus.mitre.org> woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke) writes:

>HOV lane. The main reason for the big backup last tuesday was the
>accident (I remember those happening even before the toll road was
>built) not the lack of a third lane. 

Tuesday, the toll road was backed up at 6:30 AM.  When did the
accident occur?  Wednesday, at 6:30 the toll road was better but
Route 7 was backed up.  Same for Thursday.  Friday, the Toll Road
was again backed up on my way hone, so I took Route 7 which was
also clogged.  If these are all a result of an "accident", then
this must be one heckava coincidence! Even the Loudoun Board of
Supervisors have called on a rethinking of the HOV precisely
because of the traffic flow problems that are spilling over onto
Route 7.  Should we tell then not to worry, since these are a
result of accidents only? :) Also, with shoulders on both sides of
the Toll Road, accidents should not stop traffic flow like they
used to. 

>Thank You,
>
>Daniel W. Woycke             |"I went out drinking with Thomas 

You're welcome.
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From: m1pkd00@fed.frb.gov (Prasad K. Dharmasena)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Director's cut of Bladerunner
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:48:25 GMT
Reply-To: m1pkd00@fed.frb.gov (Prasad K. Dharmasena)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC


All the talk of differences and when it's playing in Chicago 
and Mann Westwood are crossposts coming from other news
groupls such as alt.cult-movies and rec.arts.sf.movies where
the original query was posted (or I should say crossposted).
Check the newsgroup line.

Yes, it starts at Cineplex Odeon Uptown theater (Conn & Porter,
close to Cleveland Park metro station in DC) this Friday the 11th.
The theater has a wide screen (70mm movie) and a nice balcony.

As has been pointed out, this version of BR doesn't have a
narration.  I've heard that the ending is different too.

prasad
From: woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Dulles Toll Road, HOV, and Air Pollution
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:10:12 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Sep5.010524.21295@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.134142.10645@linus.mitre.org> woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke) writes:
<<<<<Stuff deleted!>>>>>
>
>Let's assume, for a minute, that you're right and 95% of the
>people driving down the Toll Road are imagining some reason not to
>carpool.  Does this imagined reasoning go away after sitting in
>traffic for a while?  Or does the commuter end up on Route 7
>clogging up more an already clogged up road?  If carpooling does
>not increase to the point where it makes up for the extra pollution
>generated on the Toll Road due to cars idling, etc.  then it makes
>*no* difference.  It is at best a bad idea with noble intentions
>which should be canned. 
>
>
>You're welcome.
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John, we seem to have elminated the $400 savings to drivers as a way
to encourage carpooling in another thread, and obviously HOV lanes
done't work. And that wonderful "Kalaka" comercial from years ago
didn't do it.. How would you encourage carpooling? Is carpooling
something that should be encouraged? If everyone carpooled wouldn't
that ruin our economy by putting gas stations out of business? I guess
I feel that the HOV lane would not be a problem if it had never been
opened to abnormal traffic. The HOV lane should always have been an
HOV lane. The main reason for the big backup last tuesday was the
accident (I remember those happening even before the toll road was
built) not the lack of a third lane. 

Thank You,

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: don@helix.nih.gov (donald seto)
Subject: Re: Director's cut of Bladerunner: When?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:43:08 GMT

In article <716108512.F00007@blkcat.UUCP> David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:
>  PK> For you Info:
>  PK> 
>  PK> Blade Runner Director's Cut is playing at the Mann Theatre in
>  PK> Westwood.  Rumor has it it will open at the Rialto in South Pasadena
>  PK> (a much better theatre for BR, IMHO).
>  PK> 
>  PK> - Pieter
>  PK> 
>  PK> -- Pieter Kallemeyn                     |   phk@aristotle.jpl.nasa.gov
>  PK> Jet Propulsion Laboratory            |          - or - California
>  PK> Institute of Technology   |   phk@charybdis.jpl.nasa.gov
>
>All very interesting, but somehow I doubt many people in the Washington, DC area
>will be venturing out to either Westwood or South Pasadena CA to see Blade
>Runner, Director's Cut or otherwise.
>
>Just one person's thoughts...

yeah, but it's nice to know the Rialto has survived the quakes and is still
operational!!
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: Baxevanis@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (Andy)
Subject: Re: Freedom of Choice
Followup-To: dc.general,um.general
Organization: NIH
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:57:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.144335.6384@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu
(cs202144) wrote:
> 
> The Comcast Cable company I have just found out is not going to be carrying
> the new Sci-Fi channel that is comming out or already is out. I have called
> them voice and was told there is a chance they will get it next year, but will
> not be carrying it this year. To say the least I am pissed! I have been seeing
> advertisements for a long time for this and got excited and then I hear my
> local cable company will not be carrying it. For a company with a motto like,
> "Variety, Quality, and Choice" they sure don't live up to it when it comes down
> it to. 
> 
> If you get Comcast Cable or are just pissed in general about what I have said
> please give them a call and tell them you want the Sci-Fi channel as a part
> of your service you're paying good money for.
> 
> Their phone number is 252-1000...

Let's face it -- Comcast sucks, and nothing will change until there's some
competition in the market.  Funny how they've been running all those
commercials and stuffing all of our bills with inserts urging defeat of the
cable bill -- if they were doing business the right way, they'd have
nothing to worry about.

Call early, call often.
From: rusty@krishna.cs.umd.edu (Rusty Haddock)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Confirm a rumor of a computer faire?
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:47:57 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

I believe your best bet would be to bypass that very small computer faire in
Tysons and check out the HAM/computerFEST at the fairgrounds in Gaithersburg
on Sunday.  The HAMfest is about the same price to get in (maybe $1 more)
but you've got a lot more to see in terms of vendors plus you've got one of
the larger tailgating areas in the area HAMfests.  It also tends to have
more space to move about inside the vendor buildings.

	-Rusty-
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From: jim@options.uujobs.com (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Homeless in DC
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 17:29:13 EDT
Distribution: dc,md,va
Organization: Options Unltd., Silver Spring, MD

pnh@fcsparc6.ncifcrf.gov (Paul N Hengen) writes:

> Hello. I'm interested to find out the number of homeless
> people in the D.C. area. Does anyone have statistics or
> numbers for this? Where do these people go for say a free
> meal or clean clothes, etc.? Is there an organization that
> attends to the specific needs of these people in D.C.?
> Thanks for comments. -Paul

Your email is bouncing, Paul, so I'm posting this here....

The Community for Creative Non-violence is probably the nation's
foremost advocacy group for the homeless; they have tended to represent
the dissident side of homeless activists, always criticizing the
government for not doing enough, etc. I think Carol Fenley runs them,
now that Mitch Snyder is gone. You can find them in the phone book, in
DC; they use to operate out of 1345 Euclid St, NW; they also operate a
big shelter at 2nd & D St, NW.

On the establishment side, there's the DC Coalition for the Homeless,
also in the book, I think. I get the impression that CCNV, and others,
consider them to be little more than apologists for DC's homeless
policy; they may be right, I don't know.

Feel free to contact me if you have trouble finding either of these
organizations.

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From: gary@maestro.mitre.org (Gary Bisaga)
Newsgroups: dc.redskins
Subject: Re: Isn't it time to change the name 'Redskins'?
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:53:54 GMT
Reply-To: gary@maestro.mitre.org (Gary Bisaga)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va

In article <1992Sep11.201259.10167@umbc3.umbc.edu>, williamf@umbc4.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper) writes:
|>   Well, I don't know how to respond to this other than to say I don't think
|>   native americans want to be viewed like circus animals.  They're looking 
|>   for their place in the American pantheon like every other etnic group in
|>   America...
I used to feel like Mr. Bopper does but I am not so sure anymore.  Rather than
speak of the group of Native Americans in the third person and guess what they
must be thinking, let me relate an anecdote that doesn't prove anything but is
interesting nonetheless.  Recently we made a trip down to Albuquerque, NM and
visited a few Indian areas (BTW they call themselves "Indians" down there, not
Native Americans) as well as seeing quite a few Indians on the streets and in
the markets around town.  I saw maybe 20-30 of them wearing some kind of sports
paraphernalia (shirts, hats, etc.)  All but a couple of them had the Redskins
name and/or logo on them.  Granted, they won the Super Bowl, but I certainly
didn't get the impression that anybody felt negatively about the name.  Actually,
I didn't ask but if I had I expect they would have answered "Hell, I don't
care about that - get us some jobs, a decent place to live, and we'll talk."

-- 
Gary Bisaga (gbisaga@mitre.org)
Newsgroups: dc.redskins
From: williamf@umbc4.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper)
Subject: Re: pre-season
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:36:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.185541.23208@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>In article <BtzL2F.CGy@gtsi.com>, rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
>>In article <31AUG92.13595273@umbc1.umbc.edu> williamf@umbc1.umbc.edu writes:
>>
>>>  *peeling on my asbestos suit*...Its DALLAS over WASHINGTON in a real setback 
>>>   for Washington's chances of repeating.
>>
>>I am a huge Redskins fan, but a pick is a pick. I'm taking Dallas unless the
>>spread is something ridiculous.
>
>You guys must have short memories.  Every Redskins season opener, the
>sportscasters always say "Wow!  They didn't play with this intensity in the
>preseason."

 True.  But, usually you can see Gibbs' strategies in pre-season.  He
plays the starters for parts of the first half and then substitutes
freely.  Only rarely will he deviate from this.  In the last pre-season
game Rypien played into the third quarter and the starting offensive
line stayed in for most of that time.  Both they and Rypien played
spottily and it doesn't take much to see that they were tentative.
Sure, usually they improve when the game plan is put in but I was
doubtful and the MNF game demonstrated that I was right.   
 As for the defensive play.  That I believe you can't hide unless you
 have great players aplenty and how many teams do?  Intensity and
special teams play is hard to fabricate in pre-season...you either have
it or you don't.  

>Also, I fail to see how any self-respecting Redskins fan can pick the other
>team straight up.  Don't you root for the teams you pick (to win the
>just-for-fun pool)?
>
>I say Redskins 24, Cowboys 17.

  Well, sure I root for Washington...thats an emotional thing.  But, if
  you're a serious fan of football you ought to make a serious pick and
  hope you're wrong if its against your favorite team..