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From: ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Oh, COME OFF IT! Re: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWA
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:39:05 GMT

rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:

>In article <62958@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>>...the acting was fairly
>>up to par and, in Basinger's case, way above par...

>Really?!  What I'd heard from everyone I know who's seen it is that her 
>acting is much better as a cel than in the flesh...

I thought there were several scenes where she did a very good job of
moving like a doodle (as they called them).  It can't be that easy to
act like a cartoon character (in motion, not words), but she did.  I
was impressed.

I thought the movie as a whole was fair.  I don't think it was nearly
as bad as some people are suggesting; I think they were expecting
Roger Rabbit rather than Ralph Bakshi.
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From: derrick@cs.athabascau.ca (Derrick Rowlandson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Little Nemo in Slumberland
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:47:27 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Athabasca University


Hi. I have taken an interest in the Little Nemo reprint books. I would
appreciatte recommendations of what to buy. I have the Fantagraphics
catalogue, and I see that they have 5 hardcover volumes so far. Was
there another company doing this series also? Is there a large varience
in quality of the stories from one volume to the next? I guess that
the stories are all in color? Are there more inexpensive softcover
books available?

THanks in advance for any suggestions

Derrick
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From: tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: LSH #33 -- spoilers
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:01:29 GMT

In article <geS7N9_00VAx82G4xQ@andrew.cmu.edu> "David M. Pahnos" <dp0q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I thought the asian kid was Karate Kid II at first.  Crystal Kid was an
>Academy student, so probably very young at the time.  How long he was in

Nope, Myg was listed in the pod rosters as having sonic projection abilities,
not dragon based magic. Also, Crystal Kid did make it to the Legion as shown
in the Sun Boy spotlight issue.

"What do I care for the C.I.A. Director's tawdry affairs? I'm on the trail of
Satan himself!" --Deadman
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: LSH #33 -- spoilers
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:39:15 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        Remarks on LSH #33:

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!

        Finally, at least for an issue, they got Pearson of this book.  My vote
is in for David A. Williams to take over permanantly.  Sprouse is another good
choice, but I know he's going to be tied up over on LEGIONARES.  Willaims is
exactly what this book needs, artistically speaking.  The faces, (oh those
wonderful faces he draws) were extraordinary and the pacing was fantastic. 
Just goes to show that an artist need not follow Giffen's layouts if that
artist chooses not to.
        As far as the story goes, well, that's another matter entirely.  Poor
story again on the parts of Giff and T&M B.  They seemed to have been building
up to this issue for quite awhile, and this ending (sort of) seems to be
anticlimatic.  Not even the appearance of the Emerald Eye saved it for me. 
But, then maybe now we'll get some answers about what's happening with
Celeste.  
        A question for those that have read.  Are Crystal Kid, Danelle Foccart 
and those other two mystery kids slated to be part of the LEGIONARES series?  
Who is the Asain kid that was standing there?  And if Crystal Kid is supposed 
to be a member, isn't he in his thirties like everyone else.  Or at least the 
age of Grev Mallor (Shadow Lad)?
        Oh, and one last thing.  I never really remembered Kid Quantum from the
last three incarnations of this book, so maybe he never really existed 
before.  But, if so, was he always black?  For some strange reason I was under 
the impression that he was white...is it a retcon?  

        S H Y L O C K


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From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: JLA
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:28:03 GMT


	After picking up this weeks JLA, I say it
has gotten alot better. ( Guy's back :). Will we
be seeing a kinder, gentler Guy? (hope not.) I
personally think Ice will have a better time
straighting out Guy than Superman! And is you
don't want to know who else joined the team 
hit N now

(spolier)


	The Atom is now a member of the JLA!
I wounder is Captain Atom will be back with
the JLE, and if so who leads the Team!


				James Dusek
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From: efj1@quads.uchicago.edu (The Crafty Trilobite)
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Reply-To: efj1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:11:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.195435.29622@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
>
>Remember when she fought Dracula?  The cross had no influence, and
>Drac gave with the "the holder must believe!!!", and then burnt himself
>on Kitty's Star of David.
>
Actually, that one always confused me: if Nightcrawler holding a cross could 
make Dracula scream and stagger back weakly, why didn't touching a Jewish star hurt him at least as much? Is it a matter of level of belief?

Kitty herself thought "Around my neck, the silver star of David.  Thank God!"
Which might mean that it was the _silver_ that burned his hand. Especially 
since the star of David is not nearly as religious a symbol as the cross - it's
more of a nationalistic thing, really - Jews aren't supposed to have physical
symbols of God, unless you count the Torah scrolls. Graven images and all 
that, y'know.

--Manny

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From: wtn1@ra.msstate.edu (Todd Newkirk)
Subject: Reality Gem.
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:10:49 GMT

I've got a question.
I've been keeping up with the Infinity Watch, Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War,
and such, and I pretty much understand what's going on. I do have a question
about one thing, though. I was wondering, who did Adam Strange give the reality
gem to? I once thought that it was Thanos, because of his failure of obtaining
omnipotence 3 times, but now with the Inifinty War, I know that he hasn't got
the gem. Does anyone have a clue? Thanks. :)

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* I'm also known as Grandpa. :)                    wtn1@ra.msstate.edu        *
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From: patlin_s@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: LSH
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:17:44 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Hey, there used to be a fairly lively legion of super heroes discussion
here.  Haven't  seen an item for months.

Did it move, or just die?

If it moved, what's the name of the new newsgroup?

Thanks,

Scott Patlin
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Infinity War...Geez...
Keywords: Reality, Gem, whereabouts, turkey, ham, cheese, killer-nazi-clowns
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:16:56 GMT
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

I write:

>goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:


>>	Hm. Perhaps the Watcher? I don't believe we've seen him yet,
>>which is a bit odd considering how cosmic it's all been getting.

>Maybe, perhaps... it's Franklin ;)

No... I got it... the old Thor :)
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           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
From: bob.calbridge@u2u.lonestar.org (Bob Calbridge) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Reality Gem.
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:43:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)
Reply-To: bob.calbridge@u2u.lonestar.org (Bob Calbridge) 

To:ALL

JBS>Ssssssuuuurrrrrreeeee!  And why don't they make Dr. Doom leader of the free
   >world, too, since they're feeling so suicidal?  I think the guy that predic
   >that the "good Warlock" would get the reality gem was right on.

If Warlock knew of the existance of his "good" half then he should have
anticipated the existance of Magus.  If he could locate the good half he
could locate the bad half.
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From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: XMEN: Forge is not an inventor
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:19:43 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean VA

In article <13629@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:
}In article <Bs2wDp.2nB@cs.psu.edu> antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes) writes:
}>Hello.
}>So, reading a back issue of X-Men, Forge pulls the amazingly lame line
}>"since my mutant power is the ability to invent litererly anything given
}>enough time..." and it starts me thinking about the nature of his power.
}>
}>I don't think he actually has the ability as a mutant power to invent things.
}>Instead, I think he makes devices which work because he made them.  If or
}>when he forgets about them, they  probably become disfunctional.  So, his
}
}	Except that when Forge first appeared, Val Cooper or Mystique
}called him the government's new exotic weapons manufacturer since Tony
}Stark was out of it.  Also, Henry Gyrich and the Scarlet Witch have each used

Check the WILDCARDS series.  They have a discussion in the first on psionic
"inventors" who make fantastic gadgets.  That work.  If THE INVENTOR makes
them.  But they cannot be mass produced.  Same thing?
From: Montague_Kevin @Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Flash vs Superman (was Re: <mumble>)
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:12:57 GMT
Organization: In Effect Enterprises

In article <Bs2vyq.2FA@cs.psu.edu>, antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes) writes:
> 
> Hello.
> 
>   Well, someone brought up the "Buried Alien" appearance in the Quasar
> road race as homage to the Flash being the fastest, and also the issue
> of all the Superman Vs Flash races has been mentioned in another post.
> 
> It is true that Superman either tied or won far too many of these races.
> However, given the hints in Flash recently (recently = months ago, I'm
> a bit behind), it seems Jay Garrick and Wally West both ran faster when
> with Barry, and Barry himself was a self-fulfilling origin (i.e. he was
> the lightning bolt that made him, from Crisis).
> 
> So, clearly, the only reason Superman won some of the races was because he
> was racing the Flash, and the Flash automatically made him faster.  Perhaps
> it's subconscious, "Gee, he's Superman, he's probably as fast as me!", or
> perhaps it's just a proximity effect, but it can be explained as the same
> effect that boosted Wally and Jay.
> 
> There, that was easy.
> 
> sandy
> alex@astro.isas.ac.jp
> que sera c'est la vie

Sorry. . .

But the pre-Crisis Superman was absurdly fast whether Barry was around or not.
If you remember, he moved so fast he could go back in Time, for yike's sake.
Great try, though.  This is one of the (MANY) parts of the DC continuity that
is still hopelessly muddled.  A Superman that tied Barry in a race (and yes,
Clark remembers this) would beat Wally with laughable ease.  I've written 
letters to the Supes titles as well as Flash. You guessed it. . .no answer yet.

Kevvy Kev

* Prediction: In 19?? the Anti-Monitor will reappear.  However, *
* Superman will trick him into saying "Rotinom-Itna" and every- *
* thing will go back to where it was before the CRISIS.         *
*  -Bruce T. Smith                                              *
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From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Subject: Re: Warlock and the Infinity Gems
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:19:38 GMT

In article <visser.711670631@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
>In <1992Jul20.121507.1@skcla.monsanto.com> jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>
>
>+>That brings up a good point:  How did the High "Handle-Head" Evolutionary get
>+>the Soul Gem in the first place?  Can't ask him now, he's got gorgonzola for
>+>brains.
>
>	I would have to look at Marvel Premire #1 to be sure, but I think
>it was either left unexplained or he got it in his godlike one-with-the
>-universe phase before he became mortal again to construct counter-earth.
>

  I just bought and read _Marvel Premiere_ #1 and #2 a few months ago.  Near the
end of MP #1, the High Evolutionary sends Warlock down to Counter-Earth so that
he can deal with the Man-Beast (that was the wolf-man's name, right?). Anyway,
as he sends Warlock hurtling down through space like a humanoid meteor, there's
a balloon or two of dialogue reading something like this:\
     By the way, Warlock, here's a mystical Gem which will help you on your
   mission.
  It pops onto Warlock's forehead, and that's it.
  As I recall, it's not called the Soul Gem anywhere in MP #1 or #2; it's just a
magical device which provides Warlock with some extra energy and powers.

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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Reality Gem.
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:10:30 GMT

pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Victor VonDoom) writes:

>                                              Well, the one character
>I can think of who is big enough that most Marvel readers would 
>recognize him is the Beyonder/Molecule Man team. They haven't been
>around since FF #319, and I think I saw them in a panel in a recent
>issue of Quasar where he is looking in at different realities at
>different times or something goofy like that. Of course the Beyonder
>and Molecule Man were supposed to become one being and lose their
>individuality in that FF issue, but I am sure that is merely an
>insignificant detail!

The Beyonder/MM "fusion" is now a being called Kosmic, which appears
to be a female version of Kubik (who, along with the Shaper, is also
an "evolved" Cosmic Cube)
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           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
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From: sousa_dab@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: An alternative theory on GL and yellow
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:09:22 GMT

Concerning the whole Green Lantern Debate

I believe that the "Yellow Light" vulnerability exists in the mind of the GL,
rather than the ring itself.  It makes sense because:

A: The "original" GL, Alan Scott, had a ring which was vulnerable to wood
rather than yellow.  This is explained in a GL quarterly as a reprogramming of
the ring, because of a GL who abused the yellow vulnerability.

B:  We have seen on numerous occasions that the will of the ring-bearer has an
effect on its strength.  My favorite instance of this is where a weak-willed
G'nort fails to restrain a strong-willed Lobo

C: It has been established that the Guardians are manipulative BASTARDS who I
wouldn't trust to do my laundry (...although if they offered me a ring I
wouldn't turn it down B-).)  Those Guardians could have decided that it was
better to let Sinestro (and Guy) trash them than to destroy the illusion of
vulnerability in the GL's mind.

Therefore, it is at least plausible that the invulnerability to yellow depends
on the wielder's perspective.  Maybe the ring imparts this suggestion into the
bearer's mind when he/she/it puts it on.

NEXT POST: ARE SUPERMAN'S POWERS PSYCHIC IN NATURE?

David B. Sousa
AKA Champions Characters: Revenant(1992)  Johnny Angel(1958)
From: derrick@cs.athabascau.ca (Derrick Rowlandson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Bummer comics
Keywords: JR. Williams
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:50:38 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Athabasca University


CVan someone help me find out who published this comic, and when?

thanks

Derrick
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From: jhitch@crash.cts.com (Jeffrey Hitchin)
Subject: The murals are BACK! Human Target...
Reply-To: jhitch@crash.cts.com (Jeffrey Hitchin)
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:18:13 GMT

	Bilson and De Meo have done it again!

	Their new series from Pet Fly productions, the Human Target,
based on the DC comics character, has all the earmarks of a Pet
Fly production.  Moody theme music, interesting plots, so-so acting
in places and cute humor in places.

	But most importantly:  MURALS!!!!!!  I just finished watching
tonight's show (July 25th) and like in the Flash, there were murals
all over the place.  The doctor's office had one, the general's
room had one, the CIA office had one, they're EVERYWHERE!  You can't
get away from them!

	I also liked the fact that the CIA agent had The Flash playing
on the TV, not to mention the fact that John Wesley Shipp will be on
next week's Human Target (he played the Flash for those of you who don't
know.)

	Well, I hope THIS Pet Fly production hangs around longer than
The Flash.
From: kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marvel Continuity
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:50:44 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Jul25.135712.11188@anasazi.com> rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:
>An interesting rework of the origin of the Fantastic Four themselves will
>have to be made someday, because the main reason for thier being the 
>Fantastic Four was Reed Richard's push to have the Americans be the first
>country in to put people in space.  In Marvel history, the FF were the
>first humans on the planet Earth in space.  This definitely dates the
>FF in the real world to the 60s.  Right now, this is a believable feat,
>but in 40 to 50 years, this won't be such a believable feat to the 
>comic reader.  A possible solution to this problem would be to de-emphasize 
>the idea that the FF were the first humans in space, and maybe make it
>seem as if their flight was more out of some other sort of emergency.
>But, the FF will not be able to claim to be the first humans in space!
>

I believe Marvel has reworked the explanation so that the FF was not the
first people in space, but were the first to attempt a voyage to another
star system via some kind of hyperdrive.

>
>I hope everyone sees what I was trying to get at here.  It would be 
>interesting to see what other people think of this and to give examples
>of characters that are 'dated' by thier origin and to pose a possible 
>solution to the problem.  It is interesting to note that Crisis on
>Infinite Earths was a definitive way for DC to solve this problem for
>its universe.  It was hard for a current comic reader to believe that 
>Superman and his cast of characters existed during World War II and have
>yet aged little themselves in the 40+ years since the war.
>
>					Ron


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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Subject: Re: Selina Kyle / Wonder Woman confusion in "Dark Knight Returns" ?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 04:52:38 GMT

In article <OTTO.92Jul26040009@gawain.jyu.fi>, otto@gawain.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
> All thru "Dark Knight Returns" we keep seeing these familiar figures from
> Batmans past.  The one I haven't really figured out is why the proprietor
> of Kyle Escorts, Selina Kyle, who as far as I know used to be the Catwoman,
> ends up hogtied dressed up as Wonder Woman by Joker.

That's the Joker's sick sense of humor for you.  Tie her up, and dress her
as a super-heroine.

> At another point of the story supes is thinking something like "Diana went
> back to her people and Hal went to the stars".  I thought this referred to
> WW going back to the amazons or whatever (would Hal be Green Lantern) ?

Yes to both points.  And "Ollie" is, of course, Green Arrow.

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From: balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC--Crisis Inconsistencies
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:34:15 EDT
Distribution: na

In article <13511@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, sf034281@owl.cellb.bcm.tmc.edu (Shurron M. Farmer) writes:
> I'll attempt to answer this using the History of the DC Universe (Marv Wolfman and
> George Perez) as a reference, but I question whether this is consistent with the
> retcons that took place after it.  Anyway, according to Harbinger who recorded the
> history, Krona created the anti-matter universe when he pierced the Great Barrier
> into the dawn of time.  The Anit-Monitor tried to take over the positive matter
> universe, and the heroes rallied against him.  Besides Barry Allen, the original 
> Green Arrow, a Japanese hero (not the Rising Sun, but the other male who died in
> the Pre-Crisis and whose name I can't remember), Kole, Aquagirl, and Lori Lemaris, and the original Dove died in the conflict.

I believe that DC decided retroactively to make the golden age Green 
Arrow to have never existed, like the GA Superman and Batman.

					Mark Balbes
From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: INDY: M (was Jon J. Muth)
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:29:04 GMT

BLEASE@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:

>When is the third book of M due to be published?

Book 3 came out last year.  (I think cat gave me a copy in August.)

Book 4 is scheduled to be published (according to Eclipse Extra! #78) in
April of 1991.  Same time as Tales of the Beanworld #20.  (Hey, I fully
expect them to show in the same month!)

------------------------------
                             |    "Ron!" I said.  "What are you doing here?"
Jim Drew                     |    "This is the afterlife, Marc," he said.
jrd@frame.com                | "I'm dead, remember?  I'm just waiting for Val
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | to show up, and catching some great music in
"Innocent, but not naive."   | the meantime.  Peter, Paul, and Patsy are
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    | next."  He pointed out a concert poster.
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  |      "Bill Graham productions presents... Peter
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | Tschaikovsky and Paul McCartney, with special
			     | guest Patsy Cline!"
			     |		- Marc Lynx, "A Conventional Death"
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