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Organization: Penn State University
Organization-][: The Calcium Cult
X-Subliminal-Message: oomogswoc rules!!!!
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:39:32 EDT
From: Doug Morack <DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Tuition Increases (WAS Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions

     The fee is used for administrative purposes only....  The CAC (Penn State
Center for Academic Computing) gets few if any funds form this fee.  The fee is
used for registration and other admionistrative purposes (which we will most
likely never know).   That is the only point I was trying to make....  whether
that fee also entitles a student access to the mainframe is left to the opinion
of each student at PSU....  For the record, I don't think that it does entitle
use of the mainframe....  [the rest of this discussion was taken to private
e-mail and personal messages....  and for the most part solved.  =)]

-Doug
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: polly@iastate.edu (Paula Puffer)
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:36:59 GMT

I couple nicks i've heard for ISU:

Moo U 
and Silo tech

naw we're not the big ag college in  the state are we 
*tongue very firmly in cheek*
Paula
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: New logos (was Re: Iowa State University Towers)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:34:31 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Oct5.130412.23933@athena.cs.uga.edu>, wells@athena (Scott Wells) writes:
>came here in 1988 and had since given U.Ga. a
>new logo (which we paid gobs for

A few years ago, the U of A decided it needed a new logo, reportedly
because the old one was too "associated with sports".  (Gee -- ya don't
suppose that's because most people saw it on football helmets and
basketball jerseys?)

Anyway, they hire this guy to come out from New Jersey, and design for
us a nice new academic-looking `A', and charge us $30,000 for it.
('course, it was actually 2-for-1, since he also did the `U').

Needless to say, this caused no small uproar, since this took place in
a time of ever-increasing tuition and ever tightening department
budgets.  

>, and a graphic design prof graded a "C."

Yah.  Nobody much liked our new logo, either.

Now their considering a $25/semester tuition increase for "computer fees".
Apparently there was a campus-wide student vote on it last week, but of
course it's not the least bit binding on the university...

-- 
Dave Schaumann			dave@cs.arizona.edu
From: err001@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Dorm Food
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:49:58 GMT
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA

Hiya all;

When I was in attendence at SOSC (Southern Oregon State College) we had a
cafeteria named the commons.

However, we refered to it as BUTT-FOOD!!!

This was for two very valid reasons

1)  It was in the basement of the dorms and we often wondered if the plumbing
was routed into the kitchen

2)  After about 3 to 4 weeks of eating in the cafeteria all of the HOT babes
would start to have HUGE asses!!!!  Hence BUTT-FOOD!!!

Another bit of info:
After eating at this place... when you took a dump... you had to flush like 8
times to get the OIL SLICK outta the toilet!!!


			Eric (Master of FORD, Worshiper of Mustang!)
			
			Unhappily stranded in the mid-west;
			missing the West Coast fun!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:58:02 GMT

I was in SFU's Mac Lab once when the system crashed, and everybody's 3.5's
were trapped in their Mac. I saved the day by going around with the
straightened-out paper clip, ejecting everyone's precious disks for them.

Guess I should have made it out to be a piece of esoteric knowledge, rather
than something that's described right in the pages of the Mac manuals. I did
the whole thing in a ho-hum, matter-of-fact way, but if only I had pretended
that it was very difficult, that there was some trick to it, or that the
skill/technique took years to perfect and lots of practice and ruined disks/
computers, perhaps I could have had everyone in that Mac Lab kowtowing me.

A lost opportunity. Should have thought of that at the time. Sigh.

-- 
Keith_Lim@sfu.ca   Simon Fraser University, Burnaby B.C., V5A 1S6, Canada
Hon Cog Sci; Min Psyc; Forum; Senate; CDSU; URC; ASC; FARSIDE; LEAD; CCCS
I officially represent each and every one of the above bodies--NOT!

"Perhaps you're just different. It's not a sin, you know--though you may
 have heard otherwise."                     --Tam Elbrun, ST:TNG "Tin Man"
From: ccohen+@pitt.edu (Caleb N Cohen)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer Operators
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:07:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: ccohen@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


  Anyone who has worked as a computer operator, consultant, etc will have
loads of stories to tell.  I write this as I am working... 

  Here at Pitt, the operators (2 or 3) are required, as part of their job, 
to file output.  We take it off the printers and put it into bags (yes
plastic bags.  Do any other u's do this?).  I work in the engineering
building and we get backed up quite often with our 2 mainframe and 1 IBM
printers running non-stop.  Well, last Friday, there were only 2 mainframe
printers working on campus - neither anywehre Benedum Hall. For us operators, 
it was to be a boon - very little output to file, only wordperfect print outs
from the little HP laserjet.  NOT to be the case!

  We quickly put up signs around the lab explaining the situation.  One sign
said, in very big letters, "All mainframe printing is down!  IBM printing
(wordperfect, lotus, dbase, etc) is normal."  Can you actually believe
that people still had to gall to ask what was going on.  

	"When will you be filing output?"
	"Where is my print out?"
	
  We had a ton of them - and it really did tick us off.  But the best one
came from (an obvious) freshman.  He says to me, "Can I still print from
wordperfect?"  I just stare him down, trying to scare him into leaving.  He
asks the question again.  I look him directly in the eye, then turn
my head towards the sign a meer 12 inches in front of his face.  I say to
him, "Did you read the sign?"  he replies in the affirmitive.  I asked him
if he remembered what it said.  He replied in the affirmitive once again. I 
politely asked him to read the sign to me.  "All mainframe printing is dowm!
IBM printing (wordperfect, lotus, dbase, etc) is normal."  I asked him
if he understood the sign.   He replied that he was still not sure if he 
could print and, "I just wanted to make sure."  I snapped at him saying, "If
I wanted everyone to ask me if they could print from the IBM's, i wouldn't
have put the sign up!  What would I put a sign up explicitly saying
that you could do something which you could not do?"  He walked out of the
lab in a complete daze, not knowing what had just happened.

  There are zillions of stories, but I will let others post away...

Caleb
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer centers, leaving oneself logged in
Keywords: heh
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:56:57 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <Oct.6.22.58.14.1992.14680@pilot.njin.net> mancuso@pilot.njin.net (Tina Mancuso) writes:
>
>The stories from people who have dealt with and worked in computer
>centers are really amusing.  Here are a few of my own:
>
>
>And finally, before I end this entirely-too-long post...this is to the
>person who thought that checking the direction of the watermark on
>bond paper was "weird"...believe it or not, some employers DO look for
>that!  I run the laser printing service for my school's computer
>center, and once when I was printing my boss came out of his office 
>and asked me, "Is the watermark on that paper [in the printer's tray] 
>going the right way?"  I gave him a funny look and thought he was
>picking on me again (he seems to enjoy it, as he says I react so well
>to it :), but he told me that there are employers who notice things 
>like that.  So ever since then, I always make sure the watermark is 
>going the same way as the print -- it's not difficult to check, and 
>I'd much rather do it than risk dealing with the anal employer who 
>notices it (or losing a prospective job because of it).  And I
>certainly wouldn't want to give a less-than-perfect resume to a
>customer.
>
I'm the one who posted this.

Well, if a student wants the resume printed oriented to the watermark, fine.
It still seems stupid to me.  Why?  Well I got a call that wanted me to
come in and interview for a job.  I didn't remember sending them a resume
and asked them how they got one of mine.  They said the college career office
had faxed them one of mine.  I thought that was hilarious as my resume had
been printed on a dot-matrix printer, and then faxed.  A none-too impressive
resume, but the company obviously was more concerned with content then 
format.


-- 
<<                                                               >>
<< Michael R. Brown    CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ >>
<< Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu                            >>
<< BitNet: m_brown@fauvax                                        >>
From: v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL S. PRESTON, ESQ.)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: computer employees
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

in my job as a printer operator, i get to meet some of the dumbest people
God ever created. just a few minutes ago, a student came in and stood at the
desk for about 15 minutes. when he finally asked for his printout, it turned 
out to be on the rack right behind him. one of the most frequently asked 
questions is "do you work here?". most people don't seem to realize that the
yellow badge with my driver's-license-quality picture on it symbolize a position
of quasi-authority.......never mind the fact that i'm sitting in fron of four
printers :)

people also assume that i know all sorts of programming languages and know
how to help them with any problem imaginable. in reality i'm a psychology major,
i can barely spell fortran, let alone know what it is, and all i ever really do
is take printouts from the printer and put them on a shelf.... :)

tough job.

:)
From: john@newave.newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Security (Moroons!)
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:34:03 GMT
Organization: Newave Communications, Ltd, Lake Wobegon, MN

In <1992Oct2.213633.4014@spcvxb.spc.edu> pereira_f@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
> ...and they said.."How did you open the door..after they realized 
> they left the door opened overnight they said-" your still not supposed to 
> be here" so they wanted to give me a ticket!!($50)for traspass!!!
> I said f**k you and called my professor and got it straightened out...

Perhaps you should sue the university for creating a safty hazard by leaving
the door unlocked and allowing you to enter an unsupervised science lab.
Who knows, you could have caught a dangerous computer virus.  The stress of
"what could have happened" alone should be worth $30,000 in damages.

If you had gotten the ticket, you could have used "irresistable hazard"
as a defense (the same precedent that makes you put up a fence around
a swimming pool).  For computer people, an open terminal room cannot be
passed up.

-john-

-- 
==============================================================================
John A. Weeks III		(612) 942-6969		    john@newave.mn.org
Newave Communications, Ltd.			    ..!uunet!tcnet!newave!john
From: spice@convex.csd.uwm.edu (James G Spice)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: dorm traditions
Date: 1 Oct 1992 05:32:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30

>as for dorm cafeteria names we had one in the UDA called the Dungeon 8-)
>it was rather dark and dank hence the name 8-).  Although they did remodel
>it, but it didn't help much. 
>
At Carroll College in Waukesha, WI, there was a fast food/snack bar
located in the basement of the Union called "The Pit" -- appropriately
so since it was a rather dank, dark, scummy place with greasy food
and loud, obnoxious music: in other words, great atmosphere.  Anyway,
the administration, in an effort to attract summer convention business
(that's my theory at least) decided to renovate the place.  After
about two years of snail-paced construction, the result was a pastel,
indirect lighted, fern infested, formica-table-topped, brass-railed
snack bar from yuppy hell.  There was a contest to name the new
eatery, since obviously, "The Pit" just wouldn't do.  To make a long
story short, the winner was "The Pioneer Indoor Terrace" (Pioneer being
the name of the school's sprorts teams).  We were all very pleased when
the new neon sign was hung, with the initials in overemphasized capitals --
The P.I.T.  Old hell holes never die.

Jim "ballot box stuffer" Spice


-- 
--------------------------------------     Jim Spice
And we're off, like a dirty shirt!         U. of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee
		--Lester Earnest Spice     Dept. of Political Science
======================================     spice@convex.csd.uwm.edu
From: jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: how to identify a freshman
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:36:42 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Did cisc124@jeff-lab.queensu.ca really type:
   > 
   > At Queen's, we call them Frosh and have for years.  
   > Good ways to identify Frosh:
   > -They have Daddy's credit card.

Oh how I miss those days of having the folks' card.  I damn well hate
having to pay my Visa bill.
-- 
John Adams - Sysadmin - Beachside BBS.  (Amiga/Chateau/Fido)     _
Internet: jma@cis.ufl.edu  -or-   jadams@coral.senod.uwf.edu  _ // Amiga
ChateauNet:  100:4301/107.0       MaBELLnet: +1-904-492-2305  \X/ Forever
Fidonet:  1:3612/57.0    John.Adams@f57.n3612.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 19:35:28 -0400 
From: "Jonathan R. Ferro" <jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: permanent temporary buildings.
	<BvID35.J4o@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Building 20 at MIT was built during WWII to house the MIT Radiation
Laboratory (translation: top-secret RADAR research, the "radiation" was
centimeter-band radio) and was slated to disappear when the lab did.  If
they don't start demolition soon it'll be eligible for National Landmark
status and they'll never get rid of it....

-- Jon Ferro               Einsprachigkeit ist heilbar
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: bgunzy@iastate.edu (Robert A Gunzenhauser)
Subject: dorm traditions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:39:56 GMT

Are there any good dorm floor traditions at other colleges/universities?  We
have one we started about a year and a half ago.  During dead week, the week
before finals, some unlucky Wolf House member is put in a chair, saran-wrapped
or duct taped to it, have shampoo and shaving cream applied liberally over
his body, and then carried to the female dorm next door, so he can ride the
elevators.  I know, because it happened to me....

Bob Gunzenhauser
Ag Systems Technology
Iowa State University
bgunzy@iastate.edu

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone)
Subject: Re: silly frosh and computers
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:36:37 GMT


In article <0bszsgq@rpi.edu> cougar@acm.rpi.edu (Erik Collin) writes:

> The new workstations at RPI are somewhat slow, alright veeery sloww, when
> it comes to getting someone all signed on and their window managers going.
> It takes a few minutes for the system to process a login and while that's
> happening the monitor screen just sits there doing lots of nothing.

	This is a real shame.  You would think that at RPI where they
have Sun Sparcstation IPC's that blow the crap outta anything I've
seen schools grace students with elsewhere (like they give us (gasp!)
vt320's here at UMass to use) they could at least not make them slow!
I swear, there is no reason for them to be that slow.  The overhead is
ENORMOUS the way they have it set up.  I forget exactly what they do,
but I remember 2nd semester my freshman year (the semester before they
set up everything as it is now), when they had JUST gotten the Suns
they were quick, quick, quick.  I was watching a friend use the RCS
systems on a visit to Troy recently, and the machines are slothful.



--
Tig Stone 
(oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: jonesr2@jec315.its.rpi.edu (Kazrak)
Subject: Re: How to identify a senior
Keywords: senior
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:26:42 GMT

chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim) writes:

>darknite@camelot.bradley.edu (John S. Novak III) writes:
>>In <chil.717297601@sfu.ca> chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim) writes:
>ObSenior: Seniors never refer to rooms by their room numbers, they refer to
>them, e.g., "that second classroom just inside from the pond area between
>the Classroom Complex and the MPX", despite such method of reference being
>way longer than the number. (But easier to identify the room being referred
>to. Freshies talk about "CC7101"; like *who* knows where that is!?)

Not true here at RPI...most rooms are referred to by number, like CC308
(the big lecture hall for frosh physics, chem, etc.) or Sage3303.  However,
some rooms have been given names based on the design (The Star Trek Room,
also known as the UN Room, depending who you talk to.  It gives a wonderful
feeling of being on the Enterprise bridge.)  But, in most cases, you learn
the common room numbers quickly enough that they're common knowledge.

OnSenior:  Is willing to wait in huge lines at placement just to find out
how far back on the waiting lists they are for all the companies they didn't
get interviews with.
-- 
jonesr2@rpi.edu, userham1@rpitsmts.bitnet|"Due to circumstances beyond my
"I disagree with what you say, but I     | control, I am master of my fate
will defend to the death your right      | and captain of my soul."
to say it."  -Voltaire                   |   -Ashleigh Brilliant
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: lat1553@venus.tamu.edu (TEDESCO, LAUREEN ANN)
Subject: class rivalries at colleges
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:02:00 GMT

These distinctions haven't entirely died out.  Here at Texas A&M,
the Corps of Cadets is still the tradition-keeping body on campus.
So, the sophomores each get assigned a freshman to make miserable.
Aside from corporate freshman-heckling, these sophomores monitor
the length of freshie showers (96 seconds each for this year's
Class of '96), take away their watches, tell them they can't bring
their books to classes (this particular restriction is not
officially sanctioned), and find millions of ways to abase, humiliate,
shame the latest additions to their ranks.  Pleasant custom.
Laureen T.

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone)
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
	<Oct.2.23.20.34.1992.9424@remus.rutgers.edu>
	<1992Oct5.055021.17001@news.Hawaii.Edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:45:21 GMT


In article <1992Oct5.055021.17001@news.Hawaii.Edu> gkomatsu@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Galen Tatsuo Komatsu) writes:

> 	Even I've had to answer a couple of "where's the power switch" and
> "how do I eject the disk" questions.  And I don't work in the computer
> labs (maybe I sould ask to be paid... =^)
> --
>          Galen Komatsu           !     Apple//e     !      XTC
> gkomatsu@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu  !  Sega MegaDrive  !  Sakai Noriko
>   ar592@cleveland.freenet.edu    !    Atari 7800    !    Checkers

	I don't know what it is, but whenever I'm in a computer lab,
SOMEONE asks me a "stupid user question".  I don't even WORK in a
computer lab.  I guess I just LOOK like I know what I'm doing (which I
do :).
--
Tig Stone 
(oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
From: jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:54:07 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Did michaelb@cse.fau.edu really type:
}  I didn't know college presidents were politicians.  Ours signs himself as
}  "President and Professor".  Heck, I was aware of this article 'cause the
}  chair of our department make copies and put them in all the profs mailboxes.

*ALL* college presidents are politicians.
-- 
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 _ //   Where:  jma@cis.ufl.edu -or- jadams@coral.senod.uwf.edu
 \X/    Why:    "Every moment of pleasure in life has to be
                   purchased by an equal amount of pain."
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.college:2346 alt.folklore.urban:24291
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Class distinction in colleges
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:34:21 GMT

gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:

>I'm wondering...this sort of distinction between academic classes at
>American colleges no longer exists.  When did it die out?  What was
>the social factor that caused it to disappear?  Certainly this sort
>of thing isn't endemic to Columbia...

At William and Mary, freshman used to be required to list the
college "priorities" (things in which William and Mary was first
in America) upon request, and to bow to a statue of Lord Botetourt,
a noble personage from colonial times.  In the Insider's Guide,
in the late 80's, this got garbled into a statement that freshmen
*currently* had to bow to "Oliver," a hideous abstract sculpture on
Barksdale Field.  I was interviewed as a source by the Insider's Guide
after this was printed, and I corrected the mistake, but they didn't
listen to me!  For all I know it's still in there.
 
I don't know how the real customs died.  These days freshmen are
treated rather nicely-- they get guaranteed housing, and they're allowed
to preregister by mail (when I was a freshman there, they made us all
stampede into the big sports arena, in an hour determined by Social 
Security number, a scramble for disappearing seats in the classes
we wanted).
n
-- 
Matt McIrvin, posting nonsense again
From: ewn@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Naming Hallowed Institutions-to-be
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:04:24 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

In article <chil.718101811@sfu.ca>,
chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim) writes: 
> c3zx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
> 
>>Today at Cornell we had the dedication of the Kroch Library, paid for
>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Now there's a hallowed institution that doesn't need renaming! Its official
> name sounds just fine as it is.
> 
> -- 
> Keith_Lim@sfu.ca   Simon Fraser University, Burnaby B.C., V5A 1S6, Canada
> Hon Cog Sci; Min Psyc; Forum; Senate; CDSU; URC; ASC; FARSIDE; LEAD; CCCS
> I officially represent each and every one of the above bodies--NOT!
> 
> "Perhaps you're just different. It's not a sin, you know--though you may
>  have heard otherwise."                     --Tam Elbrun, ST:TNG "Tin Man"

Its like my jeans, actually, only different.  My jeans have a hole in the
crotch.... At cornell, we now have a Krotch in our hole.
(They've been building the thing in a hole that they dug up before I was a
frosh.)