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From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Re: Ferreting
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:48:08 GMT


In article <1992Dec8.051720.18607@netcom.com>, rcabrera@netcom.com (Raphael Cabrera) writes...
> 
>I just saw a commercial for the California lottery showing "ferreting"in the
>north of England. Do you guys really do that? Who would be crazy enough to 
>put a weasel down their trousers?(ouch). To think that you consider us
>Californians crazy! at least we keep our goolies safe!
> 
I used to keep and breed ferrets and go ferreting. Ferreting is putting
a ferret down a rabbit hole to chase out rabbits which you then kill and
eat or sell. Ferret legging is the activity you're talking about and is
completely different. I'm glad to say I never put a ferret down my
trousers - they have very sharp teeth! Our next door neighbour in Reading
kept ferrets and I came across an escaped one in our garden once. Even
picking it up wearing thick leather gloves, I could still feel the bite of
its teeth!

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From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:29:09 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <1739@lucifer.UUCP>, rob@liciren.li.co.uk (Rob Clive) writes:
> BTW has anyone noticed what the average length of a CD recording is?
> Given that the maximum possible length of a CD is about 80 minutes it
> seems a rip off to purchase ones that have only 40 - 45 minutes on them.
> We seem to be paying out not only for the support of the record company
> but also for a lot of nothing.  Does anyone else think the same?

Yes, I feel this way. I thought early CDs held 74 minutes - my CD player
can't play CDs with more than 74 mins of music on them, it freaks out
whilst playing the last track! My Fields OF the Nephilim 'Earth Inferno' CD
is about 76 mins long - I've never heard the end of DawnRazor cos it goes mad.
'Disintegration' by the Cure is 74 mins long on CD (I'm told), but I've
got the vinyl (I didn't have a CD player then, mine is secondhand #50).
I presume modern CD players are better at handling 'longer length' CDs than 
mine :-)
-- 
snail@lsl.co.uk      

"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless
 means to side with the powerful, not to be Neutral."
                                                     Quote by Freire.
                                                     Poster by OXFAM.
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:44:22 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1992Dec21.102355.16021@bristol.ac.uk> P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec17.094832.13698@bristol.ac.uk>
>>P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
>>>Um, well, except the phase error is going to be a consistent time delay
>>>of 1/22000 second (approx) in one channel.  You can compensate for that
>>>by sitting 1/2 inch closer to the speaker which is 'behind'.

>Someone else mentioned headphones.  True, if you listen with headphones
>your 'problems' are different than if you use speakers.  (On the other
>hand, the answer then is to stick an extra 150 (approx) kilometers of
>wire in the lead to the channel which is 'ahead'. :-)  

Sorry, error in the mental-arithmetic unit.  Should be 15 (approx) km,
a much more practical idea. :-)

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From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Before I make a fool of myself
Date: 24 Dec 92 11:36:11 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Fulcrum Communications


by asking in a more public place has anyone installed emacs (18.59 or
indeed anything) on a sparc with gcc2 rather than gcc1, cc or the
unbundled sun compiler?  each time i put a new version of emacs up i
have a quiet try at compiling with gcc.

it always manages to build xemacs and then drops core on the first
instruction when running it...

ian
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: joe@jshark.inet-uk.co.uk (Joe Sharkey)
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Organization: Independent Network (UK)
Distribution: uk
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:14:08 GMT

In article <1482@eouk8.eoe.co.uk> dhembrow@eoe.co.uk (David Hembrow) writes:
>
>Mind you, I have modified that same old CD player somewhat. I'm still waiting
>...
>I am interested in buying a better CD player,

So what have you *done*?

 - replaced all resistors by metal film?
 - replaced low-value capacitors by polystyrene/polyropelene?
 - bypassed electrolytics wih polystyrens/silver mica?
 - replaced internal wiring by "oxygen-free copper" or silver-plated?
 - replaced all boring op-amps by OP-47's?
 - replaced connectors with XLRs?

And, if you have done, *why* did you do it?

>                                              so long as it really is better
>and so long as it isn't too hideously expensive. Until that time comes, I'll
>carry on modifying and listening to what I've got.-- 

You have Walter Jung's articles from "Audio Amateur", 1977(?), which is the
original reference to op-amps sounding different?

>David Hembrow                   EO Europe Ltd.,

joe.

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From: royd@spider.co.uk (Roy Donaldson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Date: 23 Dec 92 12:48:36 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1480@eouk8.eoe.co.uk> dhembrow@eoe.co.uk (David Hembrow) writes:
>J Strobridge (eset08@castle.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
>: 2 queries though - why are CDs so incredibly much cheaper in the States
>: than they are over here (and in Europe too, import stuff from Europe is
>: desperately expensive)?
>
>I was in the US two weeks ago and I was dissappointed to find that CDs were
>not so much cheaper there than in the UK as I thought they would be. Esp.
>with the pound at $1.50ish. Tower records had most CDs at $13.50 and you
>have to add Californian sales tax to that. Not so much cheaper than here (
>also not that you have to pay duty in the UK if you try to import too many ).
>
>I suppose that when the pound was more like $2 there was more of a gap.

Hmmmm, I must disagree here. I recently mail ordered a CD from the US
as a Christmas present for my brother. The disk came through last week.
It was a normal priced CD which would normally sell for 13.49 pounds over 
here. It cost me 12 dollars for the disk ( about 8 pounds ). This is the
company's standard price for *all* new titles. However, things in an
artists back catalogue were selling in the region of 8 to 10 dollars
( 6 to 7 pounds ) which to me seemed like a damned good deal. Can't wait
till they raise the US import limit.

Roy.



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From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Transport subsidies - Was: Car Parking
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:45:43 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

snail@lsl.co.uk writes:

~In article <29634@castle.ed.ac.uk~, fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
~~ Resources are
~~ scarce in the sense that there are more people wanting things than there
~~ are things. So those resources have to be allocated somehow. The
~~ capitalist idea, which made the west richer than the rest of the world,
~~ says that you should trade your resources for the resources you want.
~~ Money is a fiction used to measure those resources and facilitate trade
~~ in them - a Pound Note is, if you like, a futures option on a certain
~~ level of resources.
~~ 
~~ Now, when the resources get allocated they get allocated to those
~~ pesrsons that they are worth the most to, that is those persons willing
~~ and able to trade the most other resources for them.
~     ^^^^^^

~And of course the poeple at the bottom of the pile are not able to trade for
~anything, let alone the right to travel anywhere on a toll road, so you
~remove their freedom, because they are unable to trade, because they have no
~resources. I pointed this out in a previous followup to a post of yours about
~the right of way to your house. Obviously there is no solution under the
~libertarian ideal, since if there had been you would have replied.

If I don't follow up absolutely everything, it's more because it's damn
near christmas and it's a busy time. I've missed quite a few meals to
argue with you guys and I doubt I can be fairly accused of not trying.
There's a real world out there too and I gotta deal with it just like
the rest of you.

Now, to answer the question:

1) If the economy worked better then there'd be less poor.

2) Those people without tangible assets to trade can trade their skills
   or services. There's nothing exactly new in that. All of us have to
   go out and earn a crust somehow. And yes, I realise that there's a
   lot of unemployment. That unemployment however came about in the
   statist system that you advocate. And no, I don't claim that
   libertarianism would eliminate booms and busts, I just maintain that a
   free economy would be a richer one since less resources would be wasted
   through cross-subsidy.

~-- 
~snail@lsl.co.uk      

FoFP
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: joe@jshark.inet-uk.co.uk (Joe Sharkey)
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Organization: Independent Network (UK)
Distribution: uk
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:00:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.162854.27368@bristol.ac.uk> P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
>>"Remastered for CD"  --  sure:
>>An "LP-master" is 12" diameter - it wouldn't even *fit* in a CD drive!
>
>Problem here is mostly that I can never remember the jargon buzz-names
>for all the various levels of 'masters'.

There are "master tapes" and "masters"  --  equivalent.  Then 'presser's,
'stamper's, 'sub-master's etc.

ALL are mere mechanicals - using a (vinyl) to produce a CD master should
give exact "LP-sound".

>                                          The one I had in mind was not
>the LP-sized master for making the stampers, but rather the final mixed
>down master tape, from which that was made.  To make a proper CD, you
>need to go back to the original 'recording session' master -- i.e. the
>first level, and mix down to a new final mixed master tape.

Agreed!

But CD's proclaim, proudly, "re-mastered" *not* "re-mixed".  Both are
"music-biz" terms they're getting wrong!  Now: how credible are the
music/hi-fi ads for (say) CD or DCC?

>Paul Smee

joe.
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From: chrisley@oxford.ac.uk (Ronald L Chrisley)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: To let: Elegant 2bed/2bath flat in central London
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:30:14 GMT
Organization: School of Cognitive & Computing Sciences, Univ. of Sussex


Posting for a friend...

(If you know of any other places where I could post this messagee,
please let me know.  If you think I have posted this to an
inappropriate place, please let me know and give suugestions for where
it would be appropriate.)

To let:

Elegantly furnished, 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom flat in central London:

* fully fitted kitchen: refrigerator/freezer/microwave/etc.
* two double bedrooms
* main bathroom has power shower and bath; second bathroom has shower
* spacious living room
* telephone
* door phone entry system
* carpeted throughout
* gas central heating
* washing machine/dryer
* two story
* excellent location between Hyde Park and Regent's Park:
  1 street away from Baker Street; near Oxford Street (great shopping!).

Fully furnished/equipped throughout.

#300/week or near offer (depending on length of stay).

Ring +44 273 474 140, or email me (ronc@cogs.susx.ac.uk) and I will
forward any messages.

--
Ronald L. Chrisley  ronc@cogs.susx.ac.uk
COGS, University of Sussex
Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9QH, UK
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Yet more anti-libertarian argRe: Transport subsidies - Was: Car Parking
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:50:51 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Edinburgh University

wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
~~ 
~~ But in your arguments you support a tax system that *jails* people if
~~ they don't have the money to pay the government's "fare". I'd really
~~ like you to either renounce forcible taxation or address this
~~ inconsistency. You can't get much less freedom to travel than being in jail.
~~ 
~No. I think we are all advocating that the government's "fare" should be set at
~a different level according to the wealth of the person paying it. It is only
~this latest incartion of the Tory party which has imprisoned people for
~inability to pay an unfair tax.
~-- 

Wrong. People were jailed for non-payment of taxes long before the Poll Tax.



~Stephen Wilcox             |   For Sale: Posts in British Government. Suit

FoFP
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From: jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk (Jonathan Haruni)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.telecom
Subject: Re: Cable provider offering phone service
Keywords: cable phone
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:45:58 GMT
Reply-To: jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk
Distribution: uk
Organization: Micrognosis International, London

Peter Robinson (pr@cl.cam.ac.uk) writes:
> Does anyone know why you still have to have a television licence even when you
> only take programs off cable?  I thought that there had been a contrary ruling
> in the case of satellite television.

I believe the ruling applied to people with a satellite tuner plugged into
a (tunerless) monitor.  The essence was that they did not own a television
receiver.

I belive cable subscribers necessarily own normal TVs.

Does anyone know what sort of fees the cable companies have to pay to
the government ?  Do they have to buy a normal TV licence for 80 pounds
to cover their central receviers ? :-)

-- 
Jonathan Haruni
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:23:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.152655.2121@fmg.bt.co.uk> pky@fmg.bt.co.uk (Pete Young) writes:
:You don't know anything of the sort. I don't object to being in a minority.
:If it is a minority, it's still a substantial one (judging by postings
:to this group). 

I'd say more vocal than substantial.

Say, wasn't there a M&MC report on the CD pricing that exonerated them from
charges of collusion/unfair practices, coming to the conclusion that CD
prices are high basically because mugs will pay for them.

I don't.  I have a very few CDs of things I really like (because the quality
is so much better than my vinyl copies of the same music) but I will *not*
buy mass-market music until they drop the prices.  It costs about 40p to
press a CD - less than it cost to press vinyl.  Anything above the prices
that vinyl would have been sold at if it were still the predominant medium
is sheer profiteering.

G
From: prc@uk.co.gec-mrc (Peter Chalmers)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Solmin
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:38:48 GMT
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Nick Leverton (leveret@warren.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: As far as I know, "Solmin" used to be the only paracetamol tablet you can
: chew without water, and it was very useful to keep a tube of them in the
: overcoat pocket in case headaches strike in those out-of-the way places.

: NOW THEY'VE BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM SALE :-(

I have some Solmin in my pocket at this very moment, so I'd be very
interested to know *WHY* they've been withdrawn! Anybody know?

Pete C.
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: leveret@warren.demon.co.uk (Nick Leverton)
Subject: Solmin
Reply-To: leveret@warren.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:08:59 +0000

As far as I know, "Solmin" used to be the only paracetamol tablet you can
chew without water, and it was very useful to keep a tube of them in the
overcoat pocket in case headaches strike in those out-of-the way places.

NOW THEY'VE BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM SALE :-(

And my head hurts ...

Nick
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: dingram@dims.demon.co.uk ("Darren P. Ingram")
Subject: Laptop for sale
Distribution: world
Organization: Darren Ingram Media Services
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:11:00 +0000

Bondwell Laptop Computer for sale:
Specifications (from manual)

APPENDIX A
SPECIFICATIONS

MICROPROCESSOR
80286, 10MHz
80287 socket

MEMORY
1 MB user RAM expandable to 1 .5MB
1 6KB static video RAM
32KB BIOS monitor ROM

DISPLAY
10.5" supertwist LCD, high contrast
Backlight with separate ON/OFF switch
80 x 25 text display
640 x 200 graphics resolution
Software selectable display modes

HARD DISK DRIVE
Low power 20MB Winchester 3.5" hard disk drive
Separate power ON/OFF switch
Double shock protection

FLOPPY DISK DRIVE
1.44MB 3.5" microfloppy disk drive
Slim size, one inch high

KEYBOARD
94 keys, tull stroke
10 programmable function keys
Separate numeric keypad

REAL-TIME CALENDAR/CLOCK
Time-of-the-day clock and calendar
Automatic end of month recognition
Automatic leap year compensation
Battery backed RAM for storing system configuration

MODEM
Hayes compatible, full duplex
0-300 or 1200 bps
Extended command set
Bell 103/CCITT V.21
Bell 21 2A/CCITT V.22
Local and remote loop back capability
Hardware switchable to COM1 or COM2

I/0 PORTS
Centronics parallel port
RS232C serial port
External 5.25"/3.5" disk drive p~
NTSC composite port
RG81 color port
Telephone modular jacks

INDICATORS
Floppy drive active indicator
Hard disk drive active indicator
Power status indicator
Modem "OFF HOOK" indicator
Caps lock indicator
Hard disk power indicator

CONTROL SWITCHES
Power ON/OFF
Backlight ON/OFF
LCD contrast control
Modem switch
Hard disk power switch

SYSTEM POWER
Built-in rechargeable battery
AC power adapter

BUNDLED SOFTWARE
MS-DOS 3.3
GW-BASIC 3.22
Power status software
Easy 1.5 Word Processor and Dictionary

NET WEIGHT
15 Ibs including battery

DIMENSIONS
3.5"x 13.6"x 12"

OPTIONS
Bondwell 113 3.5" Microfloppy Disk Drive
Bondwell 112B 5.25" Minifloppy Disk Drive
Bondwell 215 Portable Inkjet Printer
Bondwell 108B Oxford Nylon Carrying Bag

Sensible offers welcomed
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From: joe@jshark.inet-uk.co.uk (Joe Sharkey)
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Organization: Independent Network (UK)
Distribution: uk
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:16:52 GMT

In article <BzLs1v.EC2@fulcrum.co.uk> igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.180018.2866@lsl.co.uk> snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
>> One obvious method here would be to reduce the high frequency content
>> BEFORE sampling the music and putting it on the CD. This then means you have
>
>They do.  Either with a brick-wall 22.05 filter or oversampling and
>digital filtering.

Don't they play havoc with phase response or in-band ripple?

We are, apparently, *very* aware of even slight amplitude differences - even
round the 0.1dB level...

>ian

joe.
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From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Seeking 486 based PC recommendations
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:00:48 GMT


All
	I realise this probably isn't the ideal newsgroup for this,
but I really need readers in the UK and the computing groups are very
US based. I'm looking into buying a PC, but the choice is bewildering. 
While in the US, I came across the following system from Gateway:

4SX-33V
33 Mhz Intel 486SX CPU
8MB RAM  64K cache
5.25" and 3.5" disk drives
170Mb 13ns hard drive
Local Bus IDE
VESA local bus with 1Mb RAM
15" color flatscreen monitor
Overdrive capability
etc etc
$2195

I would buy this if they offer UK support, but I don't think they do.

Does anyone know if Gateway have a UK office or have plans to expand into
the UK in the near future? All they put on their ads are a toll free number
which of course doesn't work from Europe. Failing that, could someone 
recommend a similar system from another manufacturer which offers UK support.
I'm looking into Digital's PC's as I work in the same building as DECdirect,
but I would appreciate any help and info on systems to compare against.

Is it worthwhile to buy a PC in the US and import it to the UK?

thanks
	Craig

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From: ah@dunaad.co.uk (Alan Hunter)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Transport subsidies - Was: Car Parking
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:44:43 GMT
Organization: Johnson Hunter Limited

In article <29770@castle.ed.ac.uk> fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk said:

>   I just maintain that a
>   free economy would be a richer one since less resources would be wasted
>   through cross-subsidy.

I don't believe that its cross-subsidies per se which cause the problem, I
certainly don't believe that they have to waste resources. I do believe
that the apparatus of making cross subsidies is, and will always be,
extraordinarily wasteful. Government intervention is, more a less,
friction against the proper working of the economy. On the most naive
level I wonder how much money goes into government vs how much comes out
the other end. 


Alan



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