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From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Albedo *boring* ?!?!
Date: 3 Jan 93 19:33:37 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

> I find the two month time span between issues too long to keep a high
> suspense story like Albedo going.  Stories like "A Day with the Felnas"
> (which I haven't a chance to read) is complete story.  It suffices unto
> it's own.  The Albedo story doesn't allow this because of various plot
> lines and characters which Steve follows.  Erma Felna is the central
> character but supporting cast their parts as well.  As a complete work,
> Albedo would be good reading but unlike a book which we can just turn
> page, we must turn the calandar twice to get to the next stage.

That's a good point -- I really liked Rhudiprrt, but that was largely because I
was fortunate enough to have someone mail to me all 6 issues available at the
time.  However, after that point, I occasionally hear rumors of Rhudiprrt #7
being available sometime from MU Press, but I don't really count on it.

Kind of hard to really get enthusiastic about following a continuing storyline
when it takes months between installments.  Kind of like waiting for the next
Star Wars movie...
-- 
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From: co252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig F. Aoki)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Albedo #7 & Hawaii
Date: 29 Dec 1992 06:35:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Just out of curiosity is Albedo #7 not suppose to be sold in
Hawaii or something?  I have been looking for it for some weeks 
now and I have yet to see a store that says it recived a copy!
Space Wolf #1 showed up and the new Gold Digger but nothing else.

I know Space Wolf was the favorite of the Store owner where I
usually can find Antarctic Press stuff at but He has yet to seee
Albedo #7!

BTW what ever happened to Kimber Prince of the Feylons it seem to
stop after only 2 issues.
-- 
Hello is any one home?
I've fallen and can't get up.
co252@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Albedo #7
Date: 21 Dec 1992 13:27:06 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Me, I really enjoyed Albedo #7.  It is refreshing to see a comic that doesn't
think it has to be 2 pages exposition/20 pages violence to retain my interest.
If novels can be more heavily political intrigue than action, why can't
comics?  I have no complaints at this time.

------------------------------
                             |     "What are the odds?!" said Tam, waving a
Jim Drew                     | piece of paper tape.  "*Three* fortunes in a
jrd@frame.com                | row, and *all* the same!"
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     I took the tape and read it aloud.
"Innocent, but not naive."   |     "Hershey... Hershey..."
B(2)h t c k s g+(p) rv p e   |     "He has *Ch*inese *c*ookies confused with
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | *ch*ocolate *k*isses," I told Ron.
{opinions: mine != frame's}  |     "His alliterative attempts are *always*
                             | annoying," Ron replied.
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "Gaol House Rock"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: foxfur@atheling.demon.co.uk (Foxfur the Fluffy)
Distribution: world
Subject: FurryMuck - how do I join?
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.14 $
Organization: Fox's Den @ A.C.S
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 15:46:24 +0000

Hello all,

Could someone let me know how to go about gaining access and getting a
character on FurryMUCK?  I'm pretty new to Internet and so a few pointers
about what I actually have to do (or where I can ftp a FAQ file from)
would be very gratefully recieved.

Thanks in advance.

Foxfur.

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 media of communication, their legends, their beliefs, so that, when the time
 comes, they will have been seduced to the acceptance of the inevitable,  the
 era of foxes."
               William Wharton "Franky Furbo"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: avatar@wings.micro.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: Where's the *discussion*?
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:44:08 GMT

James Drew (jrd@frame.com) wrote:

>* Disney Comics imploded last year, because their titles weren't selling well
>enough.  More than half the line was cancelled.  Disney has several major
>theme parks around the world, and a chain of stores selling Disney
>memorabilia.  Disney Comcs is an honest-to-God arm of Disney, not a simple
>licensor, like Gladstone.  Are Disney Comics for sale at the Disney Store?
>No.  Are Disney Comics for sale at Disney theme parks.  Yes, but only at a
>single newsstand at the MGM park in Florida, on the same rack as Spider-Man
>and Superman.

Once again, marketing can only do so much.  If the comics aren't appealing
to begin with, then even the slickest ad agency in New York won't be able to
help much.  Such was the case with Disney Comics.  Anyone who read them
knows most of the non-reprint titles left a lot to be desired (a large part
of the problem, apparently, was due to the fact that the editors weren't
very familiar with the characters they were handling).  While the theme
parks attract lots of people, there are still only two of them, and only a
few dozen Disney stores.  Compare that with the hundreds of newsstands,
comic specialty shops, and other retail outlets where Disney Comics were
sold.  Certainly, having them available at those other venues would have
helped.  But if kids wouldn't buy them at CUB Foods, then they probably
wouldn't buy them at Disneyland, either.

>Simply put, *any* comic aimed at something beyond the super-hero market is
>going to have to fight to hold its own.  If it is aimed at a demographic
>groups currently not well-represented in the comics market, then it is going
>to have an uphill battle, especially if that demographic group is not aware
>that the comic even exists.

Very true.  Getting published on a regular basis helps, too.  I believe
the general rule is that any comic that can come out regularly for 18
months will find its audience, whatever audience that might be.

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			-Percival MacLeach
From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: Looking for Kris Kreutzman, and YARF! (Kris, please read, if you're there)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Organization: NitroCoon's home town of Irvine (Tri-Point Sector 00A)
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:47:52 GMT
Distribution: na

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    Are you out there Kris?  I need to speak to you, or anyone else affiliated
with YARF!.  For anyone else out there who can help, if Kris doesn't read this
first, please direct him to me.

                                           Thank You.

-----------------------THE 'SUGOI' ENORMOUS .SIG!!-------------------------
           **************************     "Ore wa ima...MOORETSU ni...
          *        _  ____           *              NEKKETSU SHITEIRU!"
         *    /\  /  /  ____________\ *
   ******    /  \/  /___/  KNIGHT   /  ******    Avi Melman 
  *     _____          __,_           ___    *   a.k.a.  Wan Dabada,
  *    _______   /        /   &  /|  |   |   *   Lamunes, King Sccasher
  *          /  /    ____/      /____|   |   * (depending on my mood...)
  *    \____/  /_____\  | \       |  |___|   * Cal-Animage Epsilon,
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Xref: sparky alt.fan.furry:2571 rec.games.mud.tiny:1185
From: avatar@wings.micro.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: Looking for Osamu Tezuka's 1968 TV Production of "Vampire"
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:40:35 GMT

A few episodes (perhaps even the entire series) were released on home
video in Japan.  If you have any contacts over there, they might be
able to get them for you.

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  "My mental facilities are TWICE what yours are -- you pea brain!"
			-Percival MacLeach
From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: Merry X-Mas Greetings!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Organization: Dosu Productions - Home of the Kemono-zoku
Date: 24 Dec 92 06:13:50 GMT

------------------------------------

  Merry Christmas greetings, from the most abused subtitler and public servant
in the fandom (Hi, John!)

  Dosu Productions will continue to bring you all subtitled versions of
popular "furry" and furry-based anime from Japan (well, we'll still be doing
normal anime, we don't want to overemphasize), DESPITE recent "rude" actions
by certain people.  KO Seiki BEAST will be debuted at ConFURence 4, subtitled.
If you miss any of it, they will take encore requests on Sunday.

  For those of you who will miss it, hang tight!  I will see about getting it
shown at other conventions.  Anyone have contacts and/or conventions you would
like to see it at?

  Also, we will try to obtain an extra viewing area to show some of our other
subbed works, and possibly have a party at CF4.  (We hope...)

   Merry X-Mas, and Furry New Year!

-----------------------THE 'SUGOI' ENORMOUS .SIG!!-------------------------
           **************************     "Ore wa ima...MOORETSU ni...
          *        _  ____           *              NEKKETSU SHITEIRU!"
         *    /\  /  /  ____________\ *
   ******    /  \/  /___/  KNIGHT   /  ******    Avi Melman 
  *     _____          __,_           ___    *   a.k.a.  Wan Dabada,
  *    _______   /        /   &  /|  |   |   *   Lamunes, King Sccasher
  *          /  /    ____/      /____|   |   * (depending on my mood...)
  *    \____/  /_____\  | \       |  |___|   * Cal-Animage Epsilon,
   ******************************************    Video Coordinator
  Anime + Plus, 13 West Yale Loop, Irvine, CA  92714  
Voice:  (714) 786-0806                 BBS: AnimeVektor BBS  (714) 786-8640
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: ctan@world.std.com (Cecilia M Tan)
Subject: Furry Magazines, Fanzines
Organization: The World
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:41:46 GMT


Hello, I'm repeating this question I asked in another newsgroup since
someone kindly pointed me to this newsgroup which seems kindly pointed
toward what I seek -- is there a magazine or fanzine that furry fandom
reads?  I'm sure there are several out there, but pointers to them
would be much appreciated.  (e-mail to me please and I'll compile and
repost results for all interested)

I have already been pointed to something called YARF!

What else is out there?  Thanks for your help.

-ctan

-- 
*   Circlet Press   -Erotic Science Fiction-                   *
*   P.O. Box 15143                                             *
*   Boston, MA  02215     Send a SASE for our new titles list! *
**-------------------> ctan@world.std.com <-------------------**
From: niall@kavishar.umd.edu (SERVAL)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re:  Virus thingie - a *really* dumb move from Yozduk
Date: 4 Jan 1993 00:17:42 GMT
Organization: A Safe Haven For Wolves
Reply-To: niall@kavishar.umd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: kavishar.umd.edu

The one doing this log is really even dumber than we thought - all he had
was a log of the people infected, right?  And he said that no one immediately
discovered the virus, right?  Oh really?
 Notwithstanding that definitely not all people on ANY muck knows all the
insides and outsides of all the programming on it, hence would not know how
to interpret an error message (except to do what the error message does, i.e.
report it to whomever it says to report it to), there is an even more basic
flaw in the hacker's reasoning:  the really astute programmers will discover
the bug, and not *bother* doing any page, say, whatever, knowing it is useless.
Therefore, they will *not* show in the log at all.  What will they do?  Well,
picking up the phone and calling the wizards directly comes to mind...  That
also doesn't show.  And having the characters infected and discovering it
logging off and going on another muck to talk about it also wouldn't show.
 
That character is even more clueless, REALLY clueless, than I thought.
 
 
--Niall MacConaill
From: lainem@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Date: 26 Dec 92 12:38 EST
Subject: Albedo *boring* ?!?!
Nf-ID: #N:peg:553800005:000:2705
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!lainem    Dec 26 12:38:00 1992


peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Albedo #7 was boring.  Incidentally, I haven't seen much of Taral Wayne's work
>aside from some pix in Bestiary, and I liked what he did in Albedo far more
>than what I saw in Bestiary.  But, the main attraction was, of course, Erma
>Felna of the EDF.  Boring.  When does it stop being a comic book and start
>being an illustrated serialized story?  It's not just talking heads -- It's
>a few heads lost in a sea of caption balloons!  The first two pages (okay,
>so I'm including the editorial page) were all text.

I'm afraid I just can't resist the temptation to jump in and contribute my
two cents' worth.  Bear in mind that the Australian dollar has been getting
progressively devalued as you read this.

I was delighted with the first ever Albedo I read (vol. 2 #4), and my
delight has increased with every issue I have read since then.  At the point
when I was getting bored with the comic book medium and would gladly have
thrown it in, *this* comes along and justifies everything I've done.  More
than that, it opened the door into a whole new realm of comics called
"furries".  New life is breathed into comics, and I know that the time and
dollars I've spent in comic book stores have not been wasted.  But of all the
wonderful titles I have found since then, I have yet to find a comic that
deserves my praise more wholly than Albedo.

And then I find someone who calls it boring, who charges that it has a slow
pace.  Aye, well maybe it does, but that has never bothered me.  I have been
fortunate enough to have the opportunity to read Command Review 1-3 (thanks
Sebkha :-)) and I appreciate a title that chooses its own pace, instead of
feeling compelled to have slug fest every few pages to hold interest.  I'm
not shy of a bit of reading, and I only wish more comic books could attain
Steve Gallacci's high standards.

Albedo vol. 2 #7 was for me a beautiful work in character study, with
enchanting artwork, especially EF310 where Captain Arrat introduces his new
crew.  To each his own taste, but Albedo certainly suits mine.

By the way, I also loved the Beatrix Farmer back-up story.  Much better than
the one Mr Gallacci did in Wild Kingdom #1.

Lest anyone thinks me a hopeless fanboy, I'd like to point out an apparent
break in continuity.  In Command Review #2, both Mateoshat and Gillerand are
said to be dead.  If this is the case, I can well understand Cap. Arrat's
surprise when Mateoschat (with a 'c', but Gallacci has always been free with
his spelling) pops up and later he mentions Gillerand as being part of his
crew.  These are really only small details, but it does jar a bit when
characters come back from the dead.

Yours,

Marko.
From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on FurryMUCK
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:39:04 GMT
Distribution: na

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[THIS NOTICE IS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TO YODZUK] (or whatever it was)

   I have one word for this:  PATHETIC!!  I find it offensive that you would
make a virus in the first place, let alone tamper with the innocent frolickings
of FurryMUCKers. (and I mean that FurryMUCKers go on to enjoy the company, not
to get blasted by some invisible virus)  YOU may have thought it fun to do that
to other people, but I seriously doubt the others express the same opinion.
I didn't even BOTHER to read the message captures from your little program.

(I've got my phaser set to broast!  Anyone willing to join me?)

.sig deleted for message-space conservation.


Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Where's the *discussion*?
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:36:26 GMT

peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

>> I'll second this notion.  Political struggles have never really
>> interested me,

>Some people have the same opinion of Desperate Battles To The Bitter End
>issue after issue after issue...

Hmm.  Perhaps I overgeneralized.  In general it appears that political
struggles do not interest me, although an occasional well-told story of
political intrigue will grab my interest.  In a similar vein, super-hero
stories rarely interest me, but the occasional story will get my
attention if it's particularly well done.

At any rate, the only reason I read Albedo (actually, "look at" Albedo)
is because of the artwork.  The story is a bit hard to follow, and the
dialogue is either talking over my head with tech-talk or speaking
slowly and deliberately at me with baby-talk.  And through it all, none
of the characters appear to be feeling much *emotion*.  I suppose it's
emotion that gets me interested in a story, more so than tech or
politics.

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#endif              |    the Frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada."
From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Albedo *boring* ?!?!
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 

From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)
To: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf)

  >Message-ID: <1992Dec30.171541.9601@iscsvax.uni.edu>
  >Date: 30 Dec 92 17:15:41 -0600

 >> peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
 >>Albedo #7 was boring.  Incidentally, I haven't seen much of Taral
 >>Wayne's

GR>> Sebkha :-)) and I appreciate a title that chooses its own pace, instead
  >>of feeling compelled to have slug fest every few pages to hold
  >>interest.

GR>I'm getting tired of the insinuations that if I'm getting bored with
  >Albedo, then all I'm missing is a slugfest.  Incidentally, I found
  >Gallacci's "A Day with the Felnas" in Refractions much more
  >interesting.  No violence, not really any conflict per se.  Hey, not
  >really a *plot*, either.  Oh well.  It *did* have a lot of text, but
  >somehow it struck me as being a bit more interesting.  Maybe it was
  >because I was getting a bit more of a peek into a fascinating world.
  >I don't mind that, honestly I don't...

I find the two month time span between issues too long to keep a high
suspense story like Albedo going.  Stories like "A Day with the Felnas"
(which I haven't a chance to read) is complete story.  It suffices unto
it's own.  The Albedo story doesn't allow this because of various plot
lines and characters which Steve follows.  Erma Felna is the central
character but supporting cast their parts as well.  As a complete work,
Albedo would be good reading but unlike a book which we can just turn
page, we must turn the calandar twice to get to the next stage.

I'm still waiting for Albedo #7.  No doubt, the Canadian distributors
are slow getting it out.  Spacewolf #1 was released about Dec 14th and I
didn't receive my copy until Dec 23rd.

                                ---mike---
---
 . SLMR 2.1a . Happiness is a warm modem.
From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: Looking for Osamu Tezuka's 1968 TV Production of "Vampire"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Dec 92 06:02:49 GMT

-----------------------------------------


   I am posting this as a group request to search for the aforementioned
Japanese anime TV show.  I realize it is an old show, however, I have heard
that there are some people out there who have access to it.  Surprisingly,
though, the 1/93 issue of Animedia (a Japanese animation magazine in Japanese)
contained a complete listing of ALL anime TV shows to appear since 1962.  
Vampire was listed among these shows.


   Some info on this show was also seen in Rowrbrazzle (don't remember which
one, though).  If anyone can obtain episodes, please e-mail me.

-----------------------THE 'SUGOI' ENORMOUS .SIG!!-------------------------
           **************************     "Ore wa ima...MOORETSU ni...
          *        _  ____           *              NEKKETSU SHITEIRU!"
         *    /\  /  /  ____________\ *
   ******    /  \/  /___/  KNIGHT   /  ******    Avi Melman 
  *     _____          __,_           ___    *   a.k.a.  Wan Dabada,
  *    _______   /        /   &  /|  |   |   *   Lamunes, King Sccasher
  *          /  /    ____/      /____|   |   * (depending on my mood...)
  *    \____/  /_____\  | \       |  |___|   * Cal-Animage Epsilon,
   ******************************************    Video Coordinator
  Anime + Plus, 13 West Yale Loop, Irvine, CA  92714  
Voice:  (714) 786-0806                 BBS: AnimeVektor BBS  (714) 786-8640
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry,alt.religion.kibology,alt.angst,alt.peeves,talk.bizarre
From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:32:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.074343.10103@netcom.com> rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon) writes:
>
>They are sending you a message, David.  The message is: Confine this drivel
>to the newsgroup(s) where it might have a hope in Hell of being appreciated,
>even tolerated, or suffer the displeasure of the sanctified Masses.
>
>Run along, now.

Oh, pbbbbbblt. If _you_ wanna complain about getting this cross-posted to 
every newsgroup known to Ghod, Man, and several species of extraterrestrials,
then complain to Joel Furr or the psuedo-existive "Yazdok", who posted the
original mess to all these non-related groups in the first place for their
juvenile gloat-fest.
	You want action, go to the source. Otherwise, put your VR Dobies
away.

DACC.