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From: laurel.schippers@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Laurel Schippers) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: HOUSE PLANTS
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: laurel.schippers@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Laurel Schippers) 

Philodendron, poinsetta, dumb cane...check with a florist for others,
but best to keep it all out of cat reach.
                
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From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: water obsession
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:00:03 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


   While its lawyas important to check out the health. I
think alot of cats has this water obsession thing, my
new kitten  started doign the same things. She literally
would sit on the bathroom sink to watch my husband shave
because she liked to watch the water. She likes tojum p
in the kitchen sink and watch the water run and I had to
get these ceramic water bowls becasue she would spill the
water just to watch to run. She is now 9 months old and
doens't do it that much, too big to sit on the sink and still
likes to watch water, I think some cats are just like that and they outgrow
it. Also she would always stick her face in the glass my
husband was drinking out of no matter what was in
the glass, she never did that to me it turned out
she was fascinated with ice cubes, which I rarely use and
he uses all the time.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Saturday, 2 Jan 1993 21:13:54 MST
From: ELIZABETH M DREIKE <ICEMD@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject:    HELP! Cat with asthma

My cat has a persistent dry cough that does not seem to be a regular "fur ball
cough".  The vet seems to think it was asthma and has recommended regular shots
of quartizone.  Has anyone had any experience with asthmatic cats and treatment
for it?  I'd really appreciate any advice!

Thanks

Elizabeth and Annie (the cat)



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Should they fight it out?
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:52:49 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

I have had my new kitten, Haides (female), for about two weeks now. I have  
an older cat, Boo (female), who is four years. Haides is 7 weeks. During  
the day while I am gone, they are separated. That is, Haides is shut in a  
room with food and a litter box, and Boo has the run of the house. They  
have met each other and are not too pleased. Well, at least Boo is not  
very happy. When I let them be together, Haides wants to play and chases  
Boo. Boo hisses, swipes at her and hits her. Haides hasn't been hurt yet  
but, I can't seem to get them to stop fighting. So far we have avoided  
injuries by separating them when it got too violent. My husband says I  
should just let them "duke" it out. Is this true? And, what else can I do  
to make this better? I give them equal one-on-one attention and Boo gets  
treats and canned food when she seems particularly stressed about the  
whole thing. Haides can't have treats because she has diarrhea but, she  
gets lots of love. Any suggestions are appreciated.

--
_______________________________________________
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and you just added another verse."	  /^\  

p.s. I did read the FAQ first.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Home Alone: for how long?
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:59:04 GMT


We used to leave our cats for 2-3 weeks at Christmas during college,
but we always had someone to check on them for every day (at least
thats how often they were supposed to do it!).  If you leave your
cats at home I STRONGLY encourage you to hide anything that they
can destroy!  Everytime we leave ours for a week or more they seem
to get mad and do bad things -- like eat & knock over plants, knock
over lamps, eat the couch.....  (there were pieces missing, and ours
have a history of eating strange things).  

We have traveled with our cats too.  When they were 4-5 months we
moved from Colorado to Florida; they were in a crate most of the
time (we let them out once and almost wrecked, so that was that).
This summer we moved from Florida to Idaho and kept the cats in
crates (separate, this time).  They were much less thrilled now
that they are older.  They never use the litter box (we stopped 
every 2 hours to let them go and to walk the dog), and they weren't
interested in water.  Our cats are purebred so I think they're a
little more high-strung than most cats, so hopefully you won't 
stress your kittens out as much if you do travel.  We were really
worried about them, and they were just being stupid.  


Good luck!

Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X

the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Re: cat colds?
Keywords: sneezing
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:04:39 GMT

In article <8219@news.duke.edu> gbrower@acpub.duke.edu (Gary Brower) writes:
>
>Any thoughts on suddenly-sneezing-cat-syndrome?  What do you do for a cat
>with a cold?
>
About a month ago Grey Kitty had a cold.  He was sneezing regularly and hus
eyes and nose were all goopy (and those were the exact terms I used at
the vet, too!! :)  He went to the vet for a check-up and he prescribed
amoxicillin.  Turns out the little guy ha da respiratory infection.

Because of the infection, Grey Kitty hd to wait three weeks before
he could get his rabies shot and distemper stuff.  If your cat is sick,
they might be able to ride it out, just like people.  Just be careful
in the event that your cat is due for a shot or surgery.  Our other
cat was supposed to get spayed to day, but I heard her sneeze a couple
times last week and freaked out.  I'm planning on waiting another week
to make sure that she is doing ok.

--Karen
From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Barre)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: A welcome home surprise
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:40:20 GMT
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Barre)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik) writes:

> As a side note, does anyone really know how much the hunting ability is
> due to genetics and how much is training?  From what I've read, the belief 
> is that some hunting ability is instinct, but most is taught by the mother
> (particularly how to kill).  Is this true only for domestic cats, or for
> wild ones as well?
> 

I would think a high portion of this is strictly instinct. That way if an
animal did have to survive on his own (ie. abandoned by his mother, mother
dies, etc) he would still have a chance of survival.

My impression is that domestic cats end up killing their prey mostly by
playing with them to death. When I've watched my guys up at the cottage
(with an abundant supply of moles, mice, and chipmunks), the poor thing
usually dies from fright or exhaustion, and not because the cat finally
killed him.

I related this story quite a while ago, but will repeat it briefly. My
husband and I were at the cottage theorizing on this topic. Cairo (RIP)
had just finished playing with a mouse (because it had died) and had let
Salvador have it. We were discussing the theory that all cats know how to
hunt by instinct, but they need to be taught to eat their prey by their
moms, when we heard "Crunch, crunch, crunch..." We looked down to see 
Salvador polishing off the last bits of the mouse. All that was left was
a foot and the tail. 

It was a perfect symbiotic relationship - Cairo hunted them, Salvador ate
them.

- Lianne - 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bron@iastate.edu (bronwyn)
Subject: Trimming claws
Originator: bron@tbird.cc.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:21:46 GMT

In article <Bzw0sI.7IJ@dale.cts.com> npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan) writes:
>By the way, I manage to trim my monster's (19 pound kitty) claws
>by doing it when he is sleeping.  I just very quietly, easily
>hold his paw and press his toe until the claw pops out.  Then I 
>quickly snip and go to the next.  I can usually get 1 paw done
>before he wakes up and protests.  Then I let him go back to sleep
>and I get the other paw.

Yes!  The first time I tried to trim my kitten's claws, she screamed 
bloody murder!  I thought I was actually hurting her.  I felt like a beast.
Later, while she was asleep on my lap, I managed to get all her claws 
done without her waking up once.

Methinks she doth protest too much.

--
Bronwyn J Scrutton                                          bron@iastate.edu
Project Vincent                                               (515) 294-4994
                    If it's not one thing, it's Bronwyn. 


Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:15543 alt.drugs:20345
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Cats and LSD (and dogs)
Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:05:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

I had a friend many moons ago who's dog would scratch frantically at the
door of his "smoking shed", but only when smoking was going on.  He had
a clear desire to smoke, and would sit "grinning" as his master would blow
smoke at him.

If you insist on drugging a dog or cat, you should blow smoke through
it's ears (assuming the "drugging" involves smoke).  This avoids damage
to their extremely sensitive noses, and the blood vessels in their ears
pick up the smoke just fine.  At least, I've seen it work.  And, yes, you
can literally blow smoke right through the ear itself.

No matter how you do it, keep in mind that you are drugging a creature over
which you have control.  I wouldn't do that.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.drugs
From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: Cats and LSD
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:37:56 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
> ledlow@triton.unm.edu (Michael Ledlow PHYS) writes:
> 
>>The cat didn't consciencely choose to take LSD, his careless owners provided
>>him the opportunity to do so.  Cats being curious creatures will play 
>>with about anything.  To say that the cat did this of his own accord is
>>ridiculous.  If you leave poison out on the table, and the cat ingests it
>>do you say the cat committed suicide??  
> 
> 
> Now I'm curious. If you could train a cat that "this is lsd and you remember
> what happened last time" I wonder how often they would opt for it? The problem
> is that setting up the experiment would be inhumane. 

My cat really likes it when I sprinkle Bufo chips on his friskies.

My parrots, being on a strictly vegan diet, seem to prefer Banisteriopsis...

One should never feed one's pet synthetic hallucinogens. (I found that out when 
I fed my ferret and ball python some MDMA) 

The squirrels in my neighborhood seem to be rather fond of morning glory
seeds-- they're always stealing them from my birdfeeder.

Stick to the natural stuff, it's easier on their little brains.

making-life-more-interesting-for-the-less-evolved.max
From: nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com (Nancy Pilsch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: DECLAWING OLDER CATS
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:12:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc

Good advise deleted

Also, just because your potential new roomie's cats are declawed doesn't
mean that your's has to be, too.  I have one of each and there are no
problems or complications at all.  In fact, the one without claws kicks the
one with claws' butt all the time.  Good luck!
From: paul@sco.COM (Paul Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How many cats?
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:54:32 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <1992Dec28.165901.14999@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.024655.3680@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy) writes:
>>This may be common knowledge in the US from other sources, but I
>>just heard. An article in the 1993 Old Farmer's Almanac tells of
>>a family in Canada with 640 cats. Yes, 640. 
>
>Hmmm ... quite frankly, I'd take anything you read in the Farmer's Almanac
>with a very large grain of salt.

There were two articles (at least) about the couple in the local Toronto
newspaper as well by a staff reporter together with photographs so I
strongly suspect that this is NOT urban folklore. The couple lives in
Kingston, Ontario. The first article told about how the couple was in danger
of losing their home due to non mortgage payments, the secod told how people
had donated enough money to relieve this worry.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: socks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:07:45 GMT

(In this article, sTella described rough treatment of cats, which she
said her cats enjoyed.)

sTella, I agree with you that *some* cats can enjoy rough treatment.
I know I had one that did. 

But others most definitely do not. And I hope, if you play rough
with your cats, that you are very, very sensitive as to when they
want this and when they don't.

This is a sore point with me; because when I was young, I had two
cats, and a SO who adored the cats. My SO was a person who liked
very intense stimuli himself (for example, he liked very spicy
foods, and he liked beer with whiskey in it); and even though
he loved the cats, he didn't really understand that one of them didn't
like the rough treatment he thought of as affectionate and 
appropriate. 

Lenore Levine
levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: socks
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 28 Dec 92 01:07:47 GMT

In <18899@mindlink.bc.ca> Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb) writes:

>I decided not to include the long message that you all just had the
>*pleasure* of reading...

So, don't read her stuff next time.  We've gone around this in the
group before (I swear I'm about to put it in the FAQ).  Some people
hate her stories, other people love them.

I find her stories fascinasting and endlessly hilarious, though they
describe a very different world than the one I inhabit.  It's
certainly cat-relevant.  I know that there is stuff of hers that's in
the FAQ on how to treat your cat right -- she knows what she is doing.

Others don't like it -- so, don't read it.  STella doesn't post here
very often (sigh), so it's a real treat for those of us who enjoy her
stories when she does, and it's easy enough for those of you who don't
to skip her posts.

Next time, just hit that 'n' button.  Peace.

--Cindy
--
   Cindy Tittle Moore & Noisy Underfoot (bird watcher extraordinaire)

I post the rec.pets.cats FAQ (in three parts) every 25 days.  To get the FAQ:
ftp to pit-manager.mit.edu and look under /pub/usenet/news.answers/cats-faq/*
(part1, part2, part3), or send email to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu with
send usenet/news.answers/cats-faq/part1
send usenet/news.answers/cats-faq/part2
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in the body (leave subject line empty).  Send contributions and comments
to me; send questions not covered in the FAQ to the newsgroup.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Toilet Training Cats Progress
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:45:13 GMT

So far so good! I bought the form to fit over the toilet and both of my
kitties are using the litter in it with no mistakes so far. In a few days I
plan to start reducing the amount of litter.

I didn't follow the directions quite. They said to train only one cat at a
time and to do so by locking the cat in the bathroom overnight. Instead, I
moved the regular litter box into the bathroom for a few days as well as the
litter in the toilet form. I used the catnip to lure the kitties onto the
toilet and gave them a lot of attention whenever they went near it. Pixie
liked it so much after a couple days that she went to sleep in the litter on
the toilet :) After about 3 days I took away the regular litter box and both
kitties used the toilet litter within the day. Boy, do they make a MESS,
kitty litter everywhere!

The only potential problem I see is that they have not yet learned to step
only on the seat and not in the litter, but I guess this comes later.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:23:03 EST
From: Dave Horowitz <DSH109@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Catproof couches?
 <1992Dec23.080036.2278@nntp.hut.fi>

In article <1992Dec23.080036.2278@nntp.hut.fi>, spo@lesti.hut.fi (Silja H
Pohjolainen) says:
>>I have a leather sofa and chair.  My two cats like to sit or sleep
>>on it but they've never purposely scrathed or attacked them in any way.
>
>
>I also bought a leather sofa after a totally destroyed cotton one
>(and also with cat hair stuck all over). After one year the sofa looks
>like new! The cats don't scratch it, they don't even like to sit on
>the bare leather but go there if the sofa is covered by a blanket.
>And the best to come: it is very easy to clean because cat hair does
>not fasten to it. Unfortunately after leaving my sofa alone they
>attacked my bed...
>
>Silja, Mimi & Morri

I sure don't know what I am doing wrong, but my leather couch
has been totally destroyed by my cat.  Night rips at it so bad
that the metal and wood frame show through regularly.  instead
of getting a new one, I have just settled with repairing it with
furniture tape.  For some reason, he likes to use my couch for
his nails a lot more than his scratching post.  = (


                                                   Dave
From: nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cleaning stained fur: how?
Date: 29 Dec 92 13:09:19 -0600
Distribution: na
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Dec26.064419.1@stsci.edu>, lhuffman@stsci.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec25.212033.20191@netcom.com>, linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley) writes:
>> I have a white cat whose fur has become discolored (brownish) on its legs. I
>> think the stains are from the food he eats. He eats the food, then licks his
>> paws. Bathing (with regular soap/dawn) does not seem to remove these stains.
>> The faq does not seem to cover this problem. Any help on how to remove these
>> stains is appreciated. Thanks.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bruce James Robert Linley | "Well, I tried shoving a weiner in the warp drive,
>> Comp Sci & Engr, UCLA     |  but it didn't do a bit o' good."
>> <linley@netcom.com>       | - Star Dreck, c/o Dr. Demento
>> <linley@seas.ucla.edu>    |
> 
> I was just wondering...
> 
> If the food is doing that to the outside of the cat, what is it doing to the
> inside?

Right - another reason I cook for my cats.  You don't have to worry about the
food coloring or preservatives found in "kitty quick food" (ie, dry cat food). 
I have suspected food allergies in my kitties for a while, and we are doing
much better with home prepared food.  BTW, other day I was cooking a panfull
when my son came in; he said, "Mom, hmmm, what are you cooking?  It smells
great!"  I told him it was kitty food, but he was welcome to a bowlful - it is
as clean and edible as human food, and besides they wouldn't mind sharing with
him.

Nancy
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Behavior problem:litter
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:49:18 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Out of the five, Yogi loves to dig in the litter.  He has to "shop" around
to makes sure which box he wants to use out of the five, then he has to dig
to make sure it's just right, then when he is finished he will cover, sniff,
cover, sniff and continue this until he is satisfied.  He will even cover up
the other cat's mess if he thinks they didn't do a good enough job.

As for eating out of their own dish.  I have two big bowls of dry cat
food, one on the stairs and the other in the kitchen.  Each food bowl
has a big water bowl next to it and they all eat out of the bowls.
The dog (Jherra Satira/husky/aka shit for brains) has decided that
she wants to eat the dry food, but that's another story.  I give them
moist cat food at night and they each eat out of their own bowls and
then take turns eating what was left in the other dishes.  Only Yogi
and Tigger do that.  But all in all they take care of their own dish
first.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger)
Subject: Re: Catproof couches?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:31:15 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.


I've heard that if you get fabrics which have a smooth finish rather
than something rough and nubby, cats aren't excited about scratching it.
Our couch is a fairly smooth fabric and both Bast and Felix are happy with
their various scratching posts or the cat house.  Felix does occasionally
digress to the rug in the entryway, but after I caught him at it and 
showed him a massive Primate Threat Display (where are you, sTella?), he
reconsidered his position.  Anybody else found that smooth fabrics are
less appealing?

-- 
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Judy Bettinger  (judy@evolving.com)
Evolving Systems, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
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