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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Japan/US comparison
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:47:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.weqYPEK00Uh_I7yksg
	<1992Oct12.231353.5549@tcsi.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr.Wu,
           I think that China, Nihon and Korea(both) should sit on the Council.
From: peterp@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: RE: REALLY?-THINK ABOUT IT!
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:06:15 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana


 Hey whats up, look  I have this burning feeling that you may not be all you
apear(sp) to be, I have just read some of your curent postings , and some 
of them I agree with, but this blantant(sp) bigotry tword whites( or others)
is getting hard to deel with.  Look I am not saying that you haven't gone 
thru some tough shit, and if you are truly a person of Japanese Korean 
dissent,then I can simpithize with a little of what you are feeling, but as
of right this moment, this BRO Don't B Beliving any of that.  Now maybe I
am wrong, but hey!, you are saying some things that just do not hold water.
  In any case, the reason that I am posting this is becouse, I was just my self
in Sapporo, studing Nihongo at Tokai Daigaku, and I was intrested in where 
you lived. I realize that I may have compramized my future "Civle"(sp) 
relationship with you by giving a little criticizm(sp), but I think that you
can't go crusading(sp) around the News boards, on your high and mighty 
"people of color" unite.  You may be doing great things for the Latino,
Viet, Chinese, Black, Philipino, Korean, and any other world underdog, but
you are not the posterboy for the expell the white minority.(As you undoubtly
(sp) know, people of White pigmentation are a Minority in this world.
    Point, chill out YO, take a breather, and reavaluate(sp), couse you arn't
doing any one any good by causing those people of power"the white minority"
to get pissed off at us people of color

         Sugestion: Read a litlle Japanese history, pay attention to the 
theory of "Division of Power and Authority"

            PEACE OUT, Stay strong ( but not so proud you cant see your 
own feet!) a hint from a BLACK BOY who has been tought a thing or too 
about Pride!!!!!!!
                      Pete P.
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Buddhist Sects
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:14:06 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <&+#@byu.edu> luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke) writes:
>who is the third.  SG believes in "shakubuku", a head-on form of 
>confrontational proscelyting that consists basically of saying, "we're right,
>and you're wrong, and that's all there is too it."  It also may consist of
>threats, harrassment, breaking-and-entering, and lots of other not-so-nice
>things.

I can't let this go unchallenged.  I know several Soka Gakkai members.
While their smugness can be irritating, it is absolutely unthinkable that
they would resort to violence or intimidation to make converts.

-- 
Els Withers                   email: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.mil
Department of Mathematics     phone: (410)267-3192 / fax: (410)267-4883
United States Naval Academy
Annapolis, MD  21402-5002     Senri no tabi mo ippo yori...
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: My Grandfather...
Date: 13 Oct 1992 08:46:21 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu
Keywords: food

I personally think that coke tastes quite good with most fried,
sauce-based Asian food. (Teriyaki, stir-fry, tonkatasu, etc.) But I
wouldn't drink it with sushi that's for sure.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
	       CompuServe:  70402,3020

	       True, sushi does go better with 7-up or ginger ale.

	       I do know Japanese natives who can't use chopsticks, she's
	       studying here (used to be a bar hostess), and is currently
	       working illegally as a waitress at a local Japanese restaurant.
	       Her back is as wet as any Mexican.  Shall I be Satan and get
	       her deported?
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: My Grandfather...
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:57:14 GMT
	<1992Oct13.071111.27383@u.washington.edu>
	<1be2ctINNcs5@agate.berkeley.edu>
	<1992Oct13.214224.26196@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu's message of 13 Oct 92 21:42:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.214224.26196@u.washington.edu>
   yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:

 =}I guess we're all in agreement here. The point is that sushi doesn't
 =}have much taste, or to put it in a better language, it has "delicate
 =}flavor".  Less sweet drinks such as ginger ale, I think, allow one
 =}to enjoy the flavor of sushi better than a heavy tasting beverage such
 =}as Coke. One can go further and have green tea (w/o sugar!), dry beer,
 =}mineral water, etc.  I've never tried dry wine, but it might work.

   I'm a Beer&Sushi addict (what salaryman isn't?) myself, but
occaisionally I splurge on Wine&Sushi.  Dry sparkling wines work pretty
well [except for a certain companies].  Champagne seems to work best though.
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Humor (was: Foreign Ogres
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:16:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc2

In article <7332@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>
[example of cross-cultural jokes "not working" deleted]

>Humor is one area where culture usually clouds any reasonable
>attempt at commonality. (above joke not being reasonable, I'll
>admit)

But, if a lot of Japanese humour makes me, and others I know, laugh .......
Actually I recommended S.E.T. because a lot of it is funny to people who
only know a little about Japan. E.g. (very loosely translated).

(door opening etc, lively voices)
"Happy new year, it's good to see you, yes! have a good year this year too,
yes it's always great to see you every year when you come by for new years
greetings, great! good health to you, see you next year"
(sound of door closing, quietly to self)
"....... who IS that guy???????.......?????"

[another one]

(older female voice) C'mon A-san, you can't just sit there at O-miai (first
meeting for an arranged marriage) and say nothing, just ask anything you want
(go-enryo naku =^= without hesitation/restraint).
(older male voice) That's true, go on, ask something to get it started, anything
you want to know.
(young female voice, slightly reserverd) Please, "go-enryo naku".
(pause)
(young male voice) Are you a virgin?
(cough, splutter)
		   Are you a virgin?
(cough, splutter, cough, etc, etc, louder and longer)
		   Are you a virgin?
(more and more coughing and spluttering noises)
		   Are you a virgin?
(virtual cacophony of coughing, slowly dies down)
(pause)
(young male voice) You're not a virgin?
(more coughing)
 		   You are a virgin?
(repeat and fade with coughing)

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Haiku (Indulgence in Seattle)
Keywords: haiku, autumn
Date: 11 Oct 92 12:00:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct11.120003.4330
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

The city of Seattle (the "Emerald City") has an elongated shape, 16miles 
long N-S and 5miles wide E-W. It is sandwiched lengthwise between two bodies 
of water: Puget Sound and Lake Washington. The two are connect roughly in 
the middle of the city by a picturesque series of water lock, a canal, a
natural lake (Lake Union), and a cove (Portage Bay). To the south of Lake 
Union is the downtown, going up north along the eastern edge of the lake is 
the Capitol Hill district of the city. To the north of Capitol Hill and across
the Portage Bay is the University District, where I live.  Hold on, I'm getting
to the haiku part :-)

The other morning, the temperature dropped quite a bit and there was a fog
caused by, I presume, the condensation of moisture from the lakes. Looking 
south from my third story apartment window, across the Portage Bay to the
Capitol Hill, I was able to see the color of fall folliage despite the fog.
And suddenly, a verse popped into my head, eventhough I hadn't given a tought
to haiku for years.  I thought I'd share it with (force it upon) you:

   Asa moya ni                 (asa=morning, moya=fog,mist)
    Kemuru yama ni mo          (kemuru=to be smoky,foggy, yama=mountain)
     Aki no iro.               (aki=fall, iro=color)

It means, roughly, "Even in the mountain covered with morning fog, the color 
of Autumn is apparnt". OK, so hill isn't yama, but that's allowed by poetic
license :-)

Well, what do you guys think? Am I a genius or just near genious ;-)
Tell us about your local seasonal scenery with haiku (English or Japanese).
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Anarchist movement in Japan
Date: 15 Oct 1992 07:02:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

Does it exist?  Or are leftists over there still into the fun&games of
black-helmeted kidoutai vs. red-flag kageki-bunshi?  Well, in that case,
i guess Rikiya & I have formed the first two factions already.  applications
accepted by e-mail.
From: v999s3m2@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chili O'Cima)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Good Luck Letter (Again)
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:04:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.BvrGs9.3Bx
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi everyone;

Thank you for some advice.

But I think some of you mis understood, so I must add some information 
about the GOOD LUCK Letter that I recieved the other day. Indeed, the 
letter was sent from my Japanese friend; however, it was written in 
ENGLISH. Moreover, the letter said that it had been originally sent 
from a SAD lady in NEW HAMPSHER. So it's an American chain letter. 
Probably, it must be sent from the U.S. to my friend in Japan.

I named the letter GOOD LUCK Letter because there was a phrase such that

 	This is a letter for good luck.

on the top of the sentences.

Chili.

P.S. I did not have any good luck 4 days after, so I burned it out.
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Buddhist Sects
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:35:04 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <1bliq3INNmmj@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>Neither do most Catholics look like the kind of people who would plant bombs
>& kill pple, or molest children in the confession booth.
>
>Come on, Els, put your brain in drive gear for a moment.  there are diverse
>elements within each group, in any context.

While composing the previous post, I hesitated a while over whether to add
such a qualification.  I decided ultimately (and wrongly, as we now see)
that it was obvious enough not to need explicit mention.

Certainly there may be individual members of the group who engage in any
despicable behavior you care to name.  However, to say the Soka Gakkai
relies on intimidation to win converts is as unfair as claiming the Catholic
church promotes car bombing and child molestation.

-- 
Els Withers                   email: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.mil
Department of Mathematics     phone: (410)267-3192 / fax: (410)267-4883
United States Naval Academy
Annapolis, MD  21402-5002     Senri no tabi mo ippo yori...
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Scary in Japan
Date: 14 Oct 1992 03:10:37 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Says Ohtsuka,

Wrong. This Japanized rule always puzzled me.
Italians do not use a spoon to catch loose spaghetti falling off from
a fork. You are supposed to roll strands of spaghetti around the fork.
The degenerated rule probably came from the culture where they don't
know how to eat spaghetti.                       

And I beg you not to make a sucking noise when you eat spaghetti
as if you eat "Udon" or "Soba."  I can't stand for it.

When i was in J-land this summer, the shachou-san (a real small company) and
I were at a cafe in Roppongi, and he simply ordered chopsticks for the 'ghetti.

As for myself, if I'm eating at home i would just use my hands.  But don't
let that indicate how i would eat in in public, which is never since no
one makes spaghetti for me better than myself.
From: kurkoski@cco.caltech.edu (Brian M. Kurkoski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Would someone like to respond to this gal?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 06:21:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement) writes:

>In article <ld70h8INNbm1@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>>>From: joanne@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Joanne Petersen)
>>>Subject: Re: "ABC" and Generation 3 (was Re: Looking for roots)
>>>
>>>I've never been to Japan, although there is a city there which shares my
>>>surname. 

>The name in question is (drum roll) "Hiratsuka" which was in her .sig.
>Hiratsuka is one of the towns down (railway line "down") from Tokyo, about
>40 minutes (?) by normal train from Yokohama.

Not that it matters to anyone, but Hiratsuka is the town where I lived
for 3 months this summer; when I think of Japan, I will think of Hiratsuka
first, a "suburb" of 300,000 people without too much redeeming value;
a lot of industrial companies.  It is home to Nissan Shadai, a division of
Nissan that makes 20% or so of its cars (or so I was told; at least some
of those wonderful taxis, the LP gas-powered Cedrics); Toto (bathroom
fixture monopolist) has a plant there; also home to the _other_ 
Tanabata Festival, in June or July (Sendai has the other).  If you
try to translate Hiratsuka into English, you'll come up with something
like "flat mound" (at least that is what the kanji mean); a joke there
is that if someone tries to give you directions that refers to a hill,
they're not talking about Hiratsuka.  It is flat there.  But then again,
it is in Kanto, a plain!

The only real reason for this post was that it made me happy that someone
else had heard of the town :) :) !!

C
of those wonderful LP gas-powered Cedric
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip)
Subject: Re: Foreign Ogres (was Mr. Baseball
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:34:05 GMT

In article <7326@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>
>My Japanese wife and I meet such stereotypes on
>a daily basis, and are often surprised at the source and the form 
>that these classifications, or lack of knowledge, can take. 
>
>	"Do you eat raw fish at home every day?"
>	"I didn't know Japanese people could dance."
>	"Does your wife walk on your back?"
>	"Does your wife walk 10 feet behind you?"
>	"Do Japanese people eat meat?"

From the history book ("Life in the Samurai Age" published by Tuttle, can't
remember the author though, comes to mind) I read, in medieval time Japanese
people ate little meat. This was not restricted to the peasant, nobles ate
little meat too. Samurai usually ate more meat, presumable for gaining
body strength.

Did your friend mistakenly extrapolated the historical fact? :)

Patrick YIP

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: chosei@mokuren.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Claudio Chosei Yara)
Subject: Re: Japanese School I
Organization: Dept. of Info. Sci., Kyoto Univ., Japan.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:35:21 GMT

htakeda@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU wrote:
> 
> Well gotta go.  Continuation will be posted probably Next week!
> Thanks for keeping up with me jumping around.
> HIRO              htakeda@bonnie.ics.uci.edu
> 
> 
> (remeber this is a repost.  I probably won't be able to post again or
> send you copies, but I may :)  I'm too busy to send a copy one day and
> repeat it again a few days later.  But I'll try my best.  Also any and all
> opinions are welcomed.  Did you like this?  Should I continue?  Any other
> views?  Similar views?  Anyone is welcome to post similar stuff but I do
> have 5 sets on file.  And I'll send one a week.  Thanks)

Yeah! I liked it too much!
In fact, I'd like to read more stories like this. I'm very interested
in life of kikokushijo.

Chosei Yara. (nikkei sansei desu)
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Nagano AIDS corridor
Date: 15 Oct 1992 06:24:18 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

I have heard from a source in the mass-communications sector that there exists
a red-light district in Nagano prefecture on a rural highway, a popular
stop for truckers; the high rate of transient sex caused it to become an
AIDS hotbed, to be named the "AIDS corridor."  

Are there gay neighborhoods in any Japanese cities yet?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Politics
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:14:32 GMT
 f.gov><2222@usna.NAVY.MIL> <SMITTIE.92Oct6133235@tui.csulb.edu><BvqpAz.K95@world.std.com>
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

My "interpretation" is based solely on what Clinton and Gore wrote in their
book, "Putting People First." The position stated there is clearly more
protectionist than free trade.

If you can rebut any of my statements please do so. Your declaration, while
interesting, is of little or no value to anyone's decision making process
unless you can clearly demonstrate that what you have declared is, in fact, the
truth.

Clinton will need to have made some serious changes to his platform, as
described in his book, for him to be in favor of Free Trade.

Clinton has said repeatly that he is for "Fair and Free Trade." Trade is either
fair or free but not both.

smittie
-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
GEnie, MCI, AOL:Smittie   All of these accounts except MCI will die on or
smittie@beach.csulb.edu   about Dec 31. UNIX will be forwarded for 2 weeks.
___________________________________________________________________________
From: k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Let's see where was I
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:50:58 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ontario

ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>           
>           First let me say that personally, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO HEARS OR
> READS THIS. SO, tell/show as many as you'll need. For I fear no one at
> this point.

IN THAT CASE, DON'T BOTHER POSTING!

k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:8982 soc.penpals:2953
From: pthirose@fajita.engr.ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.penpals
Subject: You want a penpal from Japan currently living in the US?
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:17:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan
Distribution: usa

In case the subject line gets cut off (some newsreader have limits on
subject lines) allow me to re-ask the question:
	Do you want a Japanese who is currently living in the United
	States as a penpal?

If you do, then please contact me with your FULL normal mail address.
Make sure you include full name, street address including any apartment #'s,
city, state, and complete zip-code.  Please no slang, nick-names, et
at this time.

As information goes...these people are primarily university students
in Japan, who are currently in the US to learn English through UC Davis's
University-Extension classes.  Most are exchange students from, for
example, International Christian University, and the like.

Note, we only have about 10-20 people or so, although I'll accept a
full list, and print it out.  Perhaps some of them will feel like
corresponding with more than one person, or perhaps they will have
friends/relatives in Japan that also want to have American penpals.

I give no guarantees that you will get one.  All I can say is that
these people do exist here, they do want penpals.  I can't force them
to write, nor can I ensure that they will necessarily pick you.  Your
name and address may become "public" in terms of these Jpanese
students passing your name around to their friends, and I make
no promise of privacy either.  *IF* you can accept all these
various caveat's, then mail me the above information.  I don't want
any "your caveats are too big" or "your requirements are too strong"
etc.  If you don't like them, don't mail me your address.  I'm
simply trying to get some penpals together, because my friends
(the Japanese students) asked me to.  I think you can understand,
they would prefer to havb your name/address, rather than to post
their address on the net.

For now, they would prefer to keep any penpals strictly within
the United States.  They do read/write English, and their primary
reason for being here is to learn English.  You may either
write in Japanese or English, up to you.  Anything beyond my
giving them your name/address is completely uncontrolled by me.

Incidentally, if there are any Japanese exchange students here
in the United States that would like American penpals, please
also feel free to mail me, and I can forward the list or match
you up or whatever.  As a side note, I've done this kind of thing
before.  I recently got a group of 35 people in Japan (students
of Sophia Jr College) some penpals.  I do know what I'm doing,
which is why I put all those disclaimers above.  I am also
currently in the process of getting more students in Japan 
involved in a penpal system (the 35 students from Sophia
Jr College are getting their friends, relatives, etc) so
hopefully I can continue this process

Paul Hirose


-- 
Paul Hirose		     pthirose@rosarita.engr.ucdavis.edu
Computer Science Student     I speak for me, not the university (disclaimer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: htomita@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Hideo Tomita)
Subject: Re: Shameless Japaness must recognize and apologize for Invasion China 
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:47:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.203537.8302@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> vlee@dgp.toronto.edu (Victor Yuencheng Lee) writes:
>There is no reason for denying.
>
>There is also no excuse for covering-up history.
>
>As I said, if you still want to distort the history, you are absolutely
>a SHAMELESS Japaness.


God bless this poor guy !!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: My Grandfather...
Keywords: food
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:42:02 GMT

robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
> ...
>Which goes back to what someone was asserting about Japanese food earlier,
>you cannot convince me that anyone, Japanese or American, is willing to spend
>$100/meal on a regular basis for good Japanese food.

Frankly, you cannot convince me to spend $100/meal on a regular basis 
for *any* food, no matter how good.

> ...
>Of course, variety is nice and people will occasionally splurge for a
>high-priced restaurant, for a nice sushi set with coca-cola and Marlboros,
> ...                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Surely you're joking, Mr. Robertson.  Sushi&Coke?!