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From: dom@nyx.cs.du.edu (dom)
Subject: Re: THE PRODIGY, 80 AUM, ETC.  
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 01:50:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.151134.15316@husc3.harvard.edu> djperry@husc10.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness) writes:
>Does anyone out there know if the Prodigy is going to release an album soon?
>
>deX!

Yep... I talked to XL recently and they reckon on the album - "Experience",
being released on 28th Sept. Although it may now be put back a week as the
new Prodigy EP - "Fire", which was due to released last Monday, has been put
back a week to allow it a full week of sales for a better chart position,
(there was a public holiday in the UK on Monday).

Laters,
~Dom.
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From: ebh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Ed Horch)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Faves for Raves
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:58:57 GMT
Organization: AT&T

>[About The Orb:]
>
>> Well, well, well. Thats what I thought too. Then I went to buy the CD
>> and what I found was a Mike Oldfield reincarnation(!) but with less
>> bass. 
>
>You've never even listened to Mike Oldfield, have you?
>
>(Less bass?)

Obviously not, because anyone familiar with Mike Oldfield knows
that he sounds like ABBA but with tighter vocal harmonies...

-Ed

And he speaks better Swedish, too.
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: XDZebra Review #14
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:05:46 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:

>Is it?  The DFC track is the "why is six scared of seven" mix from the
>original "Brain" 12" and runs a minute-and-a-half more than the mix you
>list above.  Is the _AI_ track an edit?  (I heard it at Lou's in San Diego
>a couple weeks back and it certainly sounded like a new mix to me.  If I
>hadn't been suffering from a heat-generated brain tumor out there I
>certainly would have picked it up.) 

Seemed to be no different to me.  I'll have to play the two side by side.  One
certainly isn't radically different from the other.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Mac sequencing (was Re: Mixing Music)
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.061338.17708@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (god in three persons) writes:
 
>I'm sorry! I've been using an amiga running Dr T's KCS for the longest
>time and then only recently have I started to use Vision v1.0 on the MAC..
>I fell in love with it.. it's a dream...
>
>your sequencer doesn't matter much; it's what you put into it.
>
>Vision is, however the de facto standard for dance music; you can do lots
>of things with drawing duration and velocity ramps/curves and get serious
>production value out of it.
 
Sounds alot like EZ Vision, but I'd like to hear from anyone who has
used both: what are the advantages to using Vision over E-Z Vision?
E-Z Vision seems fine (and as you say, it's what you put into it) but
I'm thinking about upgrading.
 
 
--Eric
 
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: the KLF in boulder (WHAT?!!!)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 04:05:26 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:

>> the KLF & Wanda D. play at the marquee this thurs sept 3rd. 
>
> Last I and EVERYBODY else heard (even the people at KLF Communications
> and everybody they work with), Bill and Jimmy had dropped off the face
> of the Earth, leaving the music business.  Now they turn up to do a gig
> in Boulder?  WHAT'S GOING ON?!!!! 

This "Wanda D." person (who's not even the "Wanda Dee" who did one (one!)
sample on "Last Train To Trancentral" as far as I know) got into some
legal shit last year with this nonsense of doing shows billing herself as
"The KLF & Wanda D".  None of the shows she did had Bill Drummond or Jimmy
Cauty within two thousand miles of them.  I'll do some calling around
tomorrow and see what I can find out, but it's almost certainly not them.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Remember: It's all in fun until somebody puts an eye out.  (Then it's a SPORT!)
From: wgd@ukc.ac.uk (W.G.Day)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: goal setting as a way of life
Date: 26 Aug 92 09:33:21 GMT
Reply-To: wgd@ukc.ac.uk (Warren Day)
Organization: Computing Lab, The University, Canterbury, Kent. CT2 7NF, UK

In article <1992Aug17.232541.5547@nmt.edu> houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle) writes:
>filtering people at the front door,

Very interesting.

>reading books on creativity is a waste of time.
>Through time I've come to see that he's right.

On the whole I would have to disagree for the following,

>One of the major blocks to creativity seems to be worrying about it too much.

And not getting on with it, true.

>The people who worry about it (
>who presumably are the ones who write the books and who read the books)
>generally would lack it themselves,

Tony Buzan has written about creativity, one example is the chapter in Make
the Most of your Mind, and Mind Mapping is also about being creative.
He has the highest score for creativity ever recorded.

If you are worried about it and you've read a book on it, put the book into
practice.  You are creative by being creative, by actually doing it.  Even
by generating an argument and evidence to how wrong I am, is being creative.

>NLP and relatives aside,  good ways of doing this are

>(a) keep active (if you are writing or solving a math problem,
>keep writing something even if it isn't that great or keep trying specific
>examples if you aren't making progress towards a general approach) and

True.

>(b) when levels of frustration,  anxiety or whatever get too high,  do
>something to manage them that works for you.  Typically this means taking
>a break and maybe drinking a cup of coffee,  going to the video arcade,
>riding a bike,  or switching to a problem that is more tractable (maybe
>even watering the garden.)

True.

>Both of these principles seem rather simple,
>but I've seen many people get stuck staring at a blank page or computer
>screen,  which is the ultimate killer of creativity.

Both principles are simple, but they work.  As I said before being creative
is about creating things, solutions to problems, whatever; this is the doing
the keeping active.

Also the brain can only do anything for 35 mins +/- 25mins, you need a break,
especially from sitting down at a desk with a piece of paper or a computer.
Your body physically needs a break, a change of posture, you need to get up
and move around, get some fresh air, or a drink.  Basic animalistic
requirements for life; air, exercise, nutrition.

>	One viewpoint about creativity is that people who are more creative
>have fewer inhibitions than those who are less creative...

The is true of memory, and creativity is to a certain extent is a memory
proces in itself, it is remembering something new.

Warren
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: tki@atk.tpo.fi (Tuukka Kirveskoski)
Subject: Personal strategy tools etc.
Keywords: personal strategy, computer programs, new ideas
Organization: Tampere Telephone Co, Tampere Finland
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:25:21 GMT

Hi every-1,

Do you know any computer programs or other kind of personal strategy
tools to mention. I have used Idegen 2.2 -program and Creative Think's
'Creative Whack Pack' for generating new ideas and whacking my mind, 
but any other recommendations will be received with a pleasure (they
can be shareware or not).

Thanx in advance,

Tuukka
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From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Optiman
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:48:47 GMT
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA

In article <1992Aug30.004353.9907@nmt.edu> houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle) writes:
}	As such,  I see the optimal man as the end product of the 20th century
}disease.  Optiman might be 5'11" and weigh 180 lbs (and is optiman really
}a man or a woman?),  and have an IQ of 250 and be able to bench press 400
}pounds and run a mile in four minutes,  but that doesn't necessarilly make him
}do anything that is constructive for himself,  for his friends,  or for his
}species.  Can optiman fall in love?  Can he write a sonnet?  Climb a mountain?
}Defend his country?  Spend a whole afternoon admiring flowers and blowing
}dandelion seeds away?  Is he happy?  All the time?  Should he be happy all the
}time in the face of injustice in the world?  What religion does optiman
}follow?  Who will he vote for president?  Will he speak out against an unjust
}war?  Will he ever run for public office?  What are the moral standards of
}optiman?

Question:  Why do you define your optiman entirely in one context, then
question the results in another context entirely?  I do not understand
the justification (for optimizing a function in one domain and then
evaluating it in a region not even addressed by the optimizing function).
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: creativity (was: goal setting as a way of life)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 08:00:11 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

W.G.Da <wgd@ukc.ac.uk> wrote:
:>One of the major blocks to creativity seems to be worrying about it too much.
: 
: And not getting on with it, true.
Be spontaneous now! <grin>

: Both principles are simple, but they work.  As I said before being creative
: is about creating things, solutions to problems, whatever; this is the doing
: the keeping active.

: The is true of memory, and creativity is to a certain extent is a memory
: proces in itself, it is remembering something new.

I wouldn't say creativity means just arranging known facts/things in a
different way (though the expression later may happen with known "tools").
I'd rather see it as a certain "state" of mental freshness, having put aside
previous concepts about something. Actually memory is not active then, and the
mind is silent, instead of always babbling with itself and and repeating what
it already knows.

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From: hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Who is Dick Sutphen?
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:32:55 GMT
Reply-To: hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I think this is the same man who wrote about a book about
relationships and past lives called "You were born again to 
be together".  He runs some very expensive seminars. I think
he lives in the southwest, and I think there is a pointer to
his seminars in his books.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Holly Hendricks
Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH 03062
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From: potter@silver.usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jeff Potter (CADIG  STAFF))
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Career goals...
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:28:29 GMT
Organization: U. S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
Originator: potter@usna


   Joan Balser writes:

> Does anyone out there have a formula I could use to determine/
>narrow down what goal/career I would like to do?



   Hi Joan! I have found the book "What Color Is Your Parachute"
by R. Boles (sp?) to be very good in this area. There are several
appendices devoted to execises that help one to define his/her
career goals. Things taken into consideration include types of
skills (people oriented vs mechanical oriented), work environments,
aptitudes etc etc. Anyone looking for a new career should do these
exercises as they are very illuminating and help to narrow career
objectives into something that one is compatable with.

  Good luck!


  Jeff

Newsgroups: alt.self-improve,misc.fitness
From: jmeritt@rod.mitre.org (Jim Meritt)
Subject: Optiman
Originator: jmeritt@rod.mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:47:23 GMT

	I'm interested in the overall optimization.  While there are a lot
of specific self-improvement items (everything from weight training, 
running, martial arts to magick) there don't appear to be very many that
look at "the big picture".  I've started on this before, but really am not
impressed with what I've done so far.  I'd like to catalog what is meant
by the overall optimal person with quantifiable, measurable goals (everything
from pounds lifted, miles run, #digits memorized, up) and what specific
training methods are available for each catagory. 

	I would appreciate email on personal observations, opinions,
references, and suggestions.  

	Thank you



-- 
James W. Meritt:  m23364@mwunix.mitre.org - or - jmeritt@rod.mitre.org
The opinions above are mine.  If anyone else wants to share them, fine.
They may say so if they wish. The facts "belong" to noone and simply are.
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: Optiman
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 09:14:23 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Todd I. Stark <stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com> wrote:
: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz) writes...
[quote from Krishnamurti deleted for brevity]
: Marc, can you relate an example of a problem that Krishnamurti solved in this
: manner ?

He was a mystic and spiritual teacher (though not in the sense of "I'm going
to tell you what's true and you follow me"), and the "problems" he's speaking
of are what one might call "life problems" - be it everyday relations,
conflicts, psychic problems, how to live, getting rid of suffering, what is
reality, life and death, who am "I"?
The point is not finding/repeating some "canned answer", but how to deal with
such problems practically - and of course in some sense you aren't "finished"
with it as long as you live, so your question is a bit difficult to answer.
In some sense, the "key" is the awareness he's speaking of in the quote.

I don't want to "sell something", and this may not be the right group for this
kind of topic - if you are still interested, drop me a note.

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From: patcc@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Pat Chan)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:01:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Memory Training
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve


>In article <94669@bu.edu> spacefox@acs.bu.edu (Godfrey Degamo) writes:
>}Anyways, I've been keeping a "memory exercise" journal for about 2 years
>}now and I've been practicing Lorayne's Techniques for about 3 years.
>}I can probably give you suggestions as to what I think works and perhaps
>}needs a bit of clarification.  If you are interested, email me.  I don't
>}want to bore this group with mundane details.  (But, if the group wants
>}suggestions posted, fine by me!)
>
>Do it!  That would be MUCH more applicable to the name of this group than
>a lot of what I've seen here.
>
>Besides, I'm interested...

I second that!!

Newsgroups: alt.self-improve,sci.cognitive
From: yost@adobe.com (David Yost)
Subject: Memory vs. creativity
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:20:34 GMT

In article <-fcnthh_@aix01.rz.fht-mannheim.de> mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de
  (Marc Wachowitz) writes:
> I wouldn't say creativity means just arranging known facts/things in a
> different way (though the expression later may happen with known "tools").
> I'd rather see it as a certain "state" of mental freshness, having put
> aside previous concepts about something.  Actually memory is not active
> then, and the mind is silent, instead of always babbling with itself and
> and repeating what it already knows.

One way to "put aside previous concepts" is to not remember the context in
which you learned them or to not remember learning them at all.  I have a
hunch that creativity and literal memory may be antithetical.  Has anyone
read any research on the subject of memory and creativity that talks about
this?  Imagine a two dimensional graph:

	rote
	memory | A           C
	       |
	       |
	       |
	       |             B
	       +---------------
			      creativity

A is the idiot savant.  B exists, I can tell you.  Do C's really exist?
I'd love to see a statistical plot on this graph!

Here's another angle, a pet hypothesis of mine.  If you are obsessed
with thinking about underlying causes, and you expose yourself to lots
of knowledge and experience, you make it harder to remember the specifics,
and you see underlying themes often enough and in different enough contexts
that you learn them more profoundly, and are thus able to apply them better.

 --dave yost
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: Optiman
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 09:31:31 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Jim Meritt <jmeritt@rod.mitre.org> wrote:
: 	I'm interested in the overall optimization.  While there are a lot
: of specific self-improvement items (everything from weight training, 
: running, martial arts to magick) there don't appear to be very many that
: look at "the big picture".

It may not be exactly what you are looking for, but maybe still helpful;
a kind of meta-advice - don't dismiss it due to its simplicity.

To understand a problem obviously requires a certain intelligence, and that
intelligence cannot be derived from or cultivated through specialization. It
comes into being only when we are passively aware of the whole process of our
consciousness, which is to be aware of ourselves without choice, without
choosing what is right and what is wrong. When you are passively aware, you
will see that out of that passivity - which is not idleness, which is not
sleep, but extreme alertness - the problem has quite a different significance;
which means there is no longer identification with the problem and therefore
there is no judgement and hence the problem begins to reveal its content. If
you are able to do that constantly, continuously, then every problem can be
solved fundamentally, not superficially.
   -- Jiddu Krishnamurti

Good luck!

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Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: william@syacus.acus.oz.au (William Mason)
Subject: Re: Optiman
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:45:46 GMT

Only a small technical point.  After I've actually read this complete list,
I'll be too feeble to write anything else. :-)

jmeritt@rod.mitre.org (Jim Meritt) writes:

>III. MENTAL:
>       :
>       :
>	New Think - Bono
>       :
>	Lateral Thinking - Edward & Bono

These two books are from the typewriter of Prof. Edward de Bono.  And
the last time I checked on this, the "de" prefix is for "of" or "from"
not "and".  :-)

Since my cursor is here, checkout "I am RIGHT, You are WRONG" also by
de Bono.  (Bono is a member of the band U2, he might be flattered).

... enjoy 
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From: spacefox@acs.bu.edu (Godfrey Degamo)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Memory Training
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:37:23 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: spacefox@acs.bu.edu



You might want to look into books Written by Harry Lorayne.  I have 2 of his
books, but, you really just need one.  Anyways, the titles:

The Memory Book (this was written with Jerry Lucas)
Super Memory, Super Student

Anyways, I find that his techniques are the best.  Stay away from the books
that tell you to memorize a "general" list of 10 items to be associated
with anything you want to memorize.  For instance:

1. watch
2. bannana
3. tree
(and on...)

Anyways, they then tell you to associate this "general" list with a list
of items, say your groceries, that you want to remember in order.

This system is fine for small things or for specific things like memorizing
your grocery list.  But Lorayne's techniques are generalized to account for
any situation.  It just takes a little practice.

I should also warn you, that like most self improvement books, you
must cut through the Author's self promotion throughout the text.  If you
can deal with that, there are alot of gems in the 2 books I've listed.

There are other books that are concerned less with techniques and dwelve into
the pschological/physiological aspect of memory.  They even talk about how
nutrition may affect memory.  Check out September 1992 Scientific American
issue.

What you should do is just go to a bookstore and browse until you find a book
that gives you the information you want without the bull.  
There are a few out there!

Anyways, I've been keeping a "memory exercise" journal for about 2 years
now and I've been practicing Lorayne's Techniques for about 3 years.
I can probably give you suggestions as to what I think works and perhaps
needs a bit of clarification.  If you are interested, email me.  I don't
want to bore this group with mundane details.  (But, if the group wants
suggestions posted, fine by me!)


One last note, these techniques aren't elixirs for memory blues.  If you
still find yourself forgetting after using these methods, so what's new?
Just note, knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers.

                            -G. Degamo,
                             spacefox@acs.bu.edu