HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tupper@sputnik.mit.edu (Tupper Hyde)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Rig for Sale
Keywords: sale
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:11:39 GMT
Organization: MIT Space Engineering Research Center

Container:  Vector V5, grey/black/maroon, ok condition
Main:           Raider (9 cell, 220 sq.ft.), rainbow bottom/white top,
                        250 jumps
Reserve:     Raven2, black/gold, 0 jumps
AAD:            FXC1200

Excellent rig for new or experienced jumper.

              $ 2,000  for complete rig, or b.o. for separate items.

May be test jumped by serious possible buyers.
 
   Tupper Hyde, tupper@sputnik.mit.edu
                           (w) 617-253-4923
                           (h) 617-935-7631
From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: RFD rec.skydiving
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:31:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: hoe.BELBOZ.93Jan27143116
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU

In article <20094@mindlink.bc.ca> Robert_Magee@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert
Magee) writes:


   I suggest strongly that if rec.skydiving is to be moved to any
   heirarchy then it should be under Aviation.

   Bobby Magee

I strongly concur. However... I think we're happy where we are. Let
other people worry about "reorganizing."

Frankly, I think reorganization is something which exists to give
middle managers something to do... :-).

ObSkydiving: So. Who all's going to the collegiates next year? :-).

Barry.
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Carnegie Mellon University           "Who is John Galt?" $ Skydive!

Boring Disclaimer: The opinions contained herein do not necessarily
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=  represent those of the FRC, SCS, RI or even CMU.
From: miolnir@stein.u.washington.edu (Miolnir)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Breaking one FAR can ruin your whole day.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 06:04:40 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <9301192210.aa11028@ingate.microsoft.COM> garrettt@microsoft.com (Garrett Tolsma) writes:
>
>The recent discussion about jumping through clouds got me thinking ....
>
>I'm a few hours and a check-ride away from obtaining my private pilots 
>licence. (Which explains why I've made about half the number of jumps 
>last year that I normally would.)
>
>Could I be putting my pilots licence at risk if I break a FAR while 
>jumping ? (Like exiting the aircraft above the cloud base).  I know it 
>sounds kind of ridiculous, but some of the FAA horror stories that I've 
>heard from other jumpers/pilots makes me wonder ...
{
The only reg I see in the FAR's that actually applies to the jumper
says that you can't throw anything out of the plane unless "reasonable
precautions" are taken to prevent damage to persons or property on the
ground.  I think wearing a chute satisfies that requirement.  For the
most part the tower isn't out to bust you and the regs leave a lot
up to the pilots discretion.  As a matter of principle I avoid TCA's
and the like unless I'm IFR just so I don't have to mess with them.
Just don't do anything blatantly stupid and you'll be fine.


As an addendum to my last post I should have said the controllers
I've dealt with in seattle do a good job of keeping IFR guys away
from jump planes. It sounds like others aren't so good, and yes,
you still have to worry about VFR flights.

miolnir
From: mmh2941@rigel.tamu.edu (Mary Haskett)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: skyblazin 92
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:49 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rigel.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Scott Smith (freestylist in SkyBlazin 92 whose rig deployed without
his hands moving) describes his trick as the "spiral death trap" or
something like that. His cameraman had a remote control with two
buttons. They left the plane with their feet connected by a strap and
pressing one button released their feet.  Pressing the second button
opened Scott's main remotely. It's a device he made himself, from an
old A.A.D and some parts from Radio Shack (I think). He had lots of
flour in his rig, so what you see is a puff a white smoke and a 
deploying canopy (look, ma, no hands). Think of what would have happened
if the cameraman pressed the buttons in the wrong order!

Mary Haskett
Texas A&M University
E-mail at MMH2941@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU

*** Smileys available for the humor impaired ***
From: valrik@carina.unm.edu (Rick J. Valles  VSC)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: 200 way in Myrtle Beach in A&S
Summary: Also in AOPA Pilot
Keywords: bigway, waybig, bigamy, trigonometry, toobig
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:48:31 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

In article <C1F46s.CAx@vti.com> mark@vti.com writes:
>FYI: The 200 way in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina last October was
>displayed in a 3/8 page picture in Air & Space Magazine this month.
>
> stuff deleted... (great photo caption!)

AOPA Pilot (Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association) also had a pic of the 
2x10^2 way.  Maybe to warn pilots to check NOTAMS?  (see thread on cloud
punching!!!)

I was at Quincy in '86 (1986!) when they built the 120-way.  It was exciting,
watching it build, like so many ants (from the ground view) with a mission.
I was excited for all those who were on it, but I have to admit that I enjoyed
all of the funnels the most!  Geeeeeeez, there was some really World Class
tracking taking place!

Rick J. "Rocket J." Valles
Cap'n, Rocket J. and the Flying Squirrels Precision Freefall Team, unLTD.
 

SCR-8939, SCS-5398, E-1, F-1
PP-ASEL-Body!
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: matkohlk@nuscc.nus.sg (Dr Koh Liang Khoon)
Subject: air coupon wanted
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:21:40 GMT

I will be flying from Los Angeles to Montana with a friend on 3/29 and
return on 4/4 or 4/5. I am looking for any air coupon that available. If
you do have something transferable or any good suggestion, please send me
an email. Thank you. 
my email address is matkohlk@nuscc.nus.sg
From: Marcus L. Endicott <mendicott@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: 24 Jan 93 09:46 PST
Subject: Re: hopping trains in the US
Nf-ID: #R:C161uw.1Jx@news.cso.uiuc.edu:1008050721:cdp:1460300142:000:75
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mendicott    Jan 24 09:46:00 1993


National Hobo Association
World Way Center
Box 90430
Los Angeles, CA 90009

Xref: sparky rec.travel:18298 rec.arts.disney:9003
From: chenry@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (catherine.b.henry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.arts.disney
Subject: train trip to WDW
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:35:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsi.1993Jan26.153528.11229
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Greetings, Netters!

My family and I (husband, 8 and 5 year olds, and yours truly) will be
attempting to get down to Florida in August from New Jersey to visit Mickey 
Mouse.  By train.

We're doing it one way be rail and the return trip by air and indulging ourselves
mostly because my son and husband are died-in-the-wool train buffs.

Has anyone taken the train trip before?
Do you have any suggestions for what to wear/bring/watch out for?

Responses to hogpa!chenry (before Feb 9) or mtnms!chenry (after February 9)
would be greatly appreciated.  THANKS!!!

/Cath Henry
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: marcia@rap.ucar.edu (Marcia Politovich)
Subject: Re: Need info on Albuquerque
Organization: NCAR, Research Application Program
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:04:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.160025.18891@colorado.edu> citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.195242.833@athena.mit.edu> rnewman@athena.mit.edu (Ron Newman) writes:
>>> My parents are considering a trip to Albuquerque in the next few weeks. They
>>> want to find out if that is a good place to retire too.
>>
>>I have to say that when I drove across the US eight years ago, I found
>>Albuquerque utterly lacking in charm or character.  Most of it seemed
>>to be a sprawling mess of suburban trash, err, tract homes, fast food
>>joints, and highway clutter.
>>
>>I suggest skipping it entirely.  Poke around nearby Santa Fe and Taos instead.
>>They still have a distinctive culture, and most of their historic character
>>intact.
>>
>
>I think that's a bit harsh.  First of all, the original question was whether
>Albuquerque was a good place to retire to, not a good place to visit.  Second,
>I've visited Albuquerque a couple of times, and my impression was that it was
>pretty livable.  Around the university, there's an area with a decent collection
>of cafes, bookstores, and bars, and there's a decent selection of restaurants,
>particularly Mexican restaurants.  I would guess that homes are pretty 
>affordable.  Sure there's urban sprawl, but the determined person can avoid it.
>
>Wayne
>
>-----------

A note I might add to this -- I challenge anyone to get a good 
photo of Taos Pueblo without power lines or tv antennas. It's 
not as quaint and pristine as you want it to be (in other words -
people really live there and they live real lives, not as 
museum pieces...) 
-- mkp
From: hrcoord@igc.apc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Madeira
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:45:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1460300146:000:148
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Jan 26 18:45:00 1993


Does anyone have any information (good or bad) on the island of
Madeira (owned by Portugal) off the west coast of Morocco?

Thanks very much,
Debra
Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:07:58 -0500 
From: Matthew Raymond Flatt <mflatt+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: European food prices?

I'm planning to tour parts of Europe this summer, and I'm trying to
figure out how long I can afford to stay. Food prices are the only area
where I have know idea how to estimate.

I plan to eat cereal or something comparable in the morning, a sandwich
at noon, and a medium-to-large meal in the evening. (This is easily
covered by $15/day here in Pittsburgh, PA, USA.)

The countries I'll probably visit are: England, France, Germany,
Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Switzerland. Info on other countries
is more than welcome.

Thanks,
Matthew
From: rymon@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Ron Rymon)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Vouchers for bid (incl. FREE)
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:50:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


 This is an update on vouchers I dont plan to use. Basically, I get many
vouchers from many airlines, offering discount travel. Some I use, some
I dont. Here, I offer those I am not going to use.

 As before, they will go to the highest offer. You can offer $0 and up.
However, I would like to make sure $0 offers dont end up retiring the
vouchers in their drawers, so please. Also, $0 offers will have to send
self-addressed-stamped-envelope.

List:

Airlines
--------

1. NorthWest Airlines - (a) $99 for a companion ticket (I think it is good on
                            any published fare). valid 2/28/93. (bid $40 and
                            up only)
                        (b) $49 for one-way upgrade on NW, when used with one
                            fly-write voucher (this is one of the vouchers I
                            got from last year's promotion). Valid 5/15/93.

2. Continental - (a) 50% family companion discount. Valid 2/9/93.
                     Will have to travel in my name, or my wife's!
                 (b) $25 off tickets valued $200-299, or $50 for $300 or more
                     Can be used for more than one ticket. Seems transferable.
                     VAlid 2/9/93

Car Rentals
-----------

1. Avis - One free upgrade on intermediate through fullsize, valid 2/12/93
          Free ski equipment upgrade, in some places

2. Budget - Free upgrade.

3. Hertz - $5 per day off weekend rate valid 1/31/93
         - One class free upgrade 

Hotels
------

1. Guest Quarters - 50% off Thu thru Sun nights valid thru 6/1/93

2. Marriott RESORTS -
	(a) stay 3 nights get one free, or stay 5 get 2 free, 3/31/93

3. Hyatt - (a) 2nd entree free at some East-coast Hyatt restaurant
           (b) 4th night free at some Hyatt resorts in ASIA
           (c) 25% off Sat night stay, valid 4/15/93

4. A few more similar hotel discounts (e.g. Ritz Carlton, Forte, HOJO, etc)
   that I am too lazy to copy.

 Enjoy,

 -Ron



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From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Looking for James Herriot  8)
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:17:32 GMT

[ Article crossposted from rec.pets.cats ]
[ Author was  ]
[ Posted on Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:02:44 GMT ]

Hi People!

I am trying to locate the address of  James Herriot ...
the author of animal books such as 

"Vets might fly", "Its shouldn't happen to a vet",
"The Lord God made them all", ...

All I know that he is in Yorkshire in UK ...
I will be going to UK this May, 
so thinking of getting his autograph  ... 8)


george

Internet:   isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg
From: cti@dcs.exeter.ac.uk (Chris Tickler)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Pole To Pole on A&E
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:34:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - University of Exeter. UK

In article <C15IIM.HMM@newcastle.ac.uk> G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes) writes:
>gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com (Russell Gilbert) writes:
>
>>Mr R J Tinsley (cstadgs@csv.warwick.ac.uk) wrote:
>
>>> 'Pole to Pole' was first broadcast in the UK during October/November of last

STUFF DELETED

>
> Around the World in 80 Days was even better though. His trip on the dow, and
>the friendship he developed with the crew was wonderful. His departure brought
>a tear to my eye. Miss it at your peril.
>
>Gareth


Here in England we can get video copies of both "Around the World.." and 
"Pole to Pole" for a mere 20 pounds each.

If anybody overseas wants a copy, E-MAIL me and I'll see what I can do, but
remember, I think that the English and American video standards are different
so I don't know if they will work

The offer is there anyway for anybody who might be interested

Chris

cti@dcs.ex.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sjones@superior.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: ground transport Toronto->Ottawa
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:46:34 GMT

In <C19w00.CpB@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> howard@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Howard Lem) writes:


>Via Rail may have a train or train/bus between Toronto and Ottawa or did
>that get cut in the last round of rail service cuts?

Easy enough to check this before passing on false information.  Via
still runs trains on a regular basis between Ottawa and Toronto.  4
each way weekdays, 3 each way Saturdays, 2 each way Sundays.  Time is
slightly less than legal time of buses (but they usually speed of
course and come close to rail time).
From: myoung@auc.trw.com (Michael Young)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Windjammer cruises
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:07:31 GMT
Organization: TRW Denver Operations

I'm contemplating taking a Windjammer cruise, anyone have any stories to
tell, good or bad?  Any suggestions on which ship to take or the best 
time of year to go?

Thanks in advance,

Michael
myoung@auc.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: csrs@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Rajam Sankaran)
Subject: Info. Required: Car Hire in USA
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:25:36 GMT

Hi there,
A friend who does not have access to the net wants some info. He is
going to LA in a couple of weeks time. He would like to know the name
and phone # (if possible) of a car rental company which is reasonable
and reliable! Further, is this the right time to visit Grand Canyon.
What will be the temperature there. Any useful information will be
deeply appreciated.

Please respond by e-mail as I don't read this newsgroup regularly!

Thanks in advance,

Rajam
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From: sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Queries about Italian costs
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:14:35 GMT
Reply-To: sbookey@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY



I have booked my trip to Italy.  Thanks to everyone for their tips
on where to stay.  I land in Milan on 11 February and leave from Rome
at Noon on 21 February.  Basically I have not real plans beyond that.

I originally figured on one night in Milano; train to Verona the next
day; stay in Firenze for a few days and take day trips to Siena and Pisa while
there; finish up in Rome and maybe take a day trip tp Naples.

Well, everyone has told me the places I absolutely "must not miss," and Venice
always seems to be on the list.  I wanted to go to Naples to see ruins
from Pompeii.  It seems like I would be seeing too little of everything
this way.  I could use a little guidance.  I don't mind travelling around, 
but I don't want to squander any time.  It will be only ten days.

So the question is: Is Milan-Verona-Venice-Firenze-Rome with side-trips in
ten days too much to do?

My other question was about just how expensive is everything.  I am figuring
on staying in the cheapest of accommodations, but I am totally clueless about
simple items like buying fruit along the way, bottled water, simple meals (I
don't plan on fancy ristorantes).  Are tourist attractions like the Vatican and
the Uffizi frightfully expensive?  I haven't a clue.  I definitely will not 
be able to afford more than $1000, hotels and all, for the ten days. I want to
keep it much lower than that. I don't plan to "shop," just walk around and relax after
18 months straight of not getting out of New York.  How prevalent are places
that take Visa  and/or Mastercard? 

My third question is about health food.  I am on  a special diet, which I can
drop out of somewhat, but are there so-called "health food" stores, and if so,
what are they called.  Places where I can get whole-grain breads, etc., to take
along the trains, etc.

Thanks everyone! 

Seth
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: tfukunag@virus.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takuya Fukunaga)
Subject: Safety in Brazil
Organization: Institute of Research for Virus
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:09:26 GMT


      Two of my girl friends will travel to Brazil.
I appreciate it very much if someone could give me
information of safety in Brazil, especially for
women travellers.

      Please reply me by E-mail. Thank you.

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From: markt@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Mark Tsombakos)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: JSI Travel-Heard of 'em?
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:59:41 GMT
Organization: GTE/SCSD - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

I recently signed up for a membership in a health club and got with it a
voucher for 2 round trip tickets to one of 4 destinations.  The promotion is
through JSI Travel in Coral Springs, FL.  While I realize they make you stay
in a particular hotel for 8d/7n, which could potentially be bad, two tickets
to Hawaii would cost $1200-1400.

I'm curious if anyone else has had any experiences with this company.  I've
tried calling them, but was put on hold (even to CUSTOMER SERVICE!) for over
10 minutes (from MA...$$$) without having my questions answered.  This is
obviously a BAD sign!  Since I was going to join the health club anyway, these
vouchers didn't cost me anything.  I was wondering where they hide the costs of
the trip.

Please reply by E-mail with any suggestions/warnings/recommendations.

Thanks!
Mark

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From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: Scotland
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:43:47 GMT

Ann Babb (HF.ALB@forsythe.stanford.edu) wrote:
: Best time of year to travel to Scotland?  Interesting things to see
: near Edinborough and/or Glasgow?  The Highlands?  Thanks!

Try British Tourist Authority ....
They have published a "Jan 93-Dec 93 Forthcoming Events list"
which I found very useful ....


george from Singapore
From: margolin@oregon.uoregon.edu (Brian Margolin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: What's your favorite beach? (2nd post)
Followup-To: rec.travel
Date: 28 Jan 1993 05:07:03 GMT
Organization: Institute of Molecular Biology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fp1-molbio-30.uoregon.edu

In article <1993Jan24.072716.1@adcalc.fnal.gov>, linden@adcalc.fnal.gov
wrote:
> 
> In article <1993Jan21.175545.4606@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, vernick@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Michael Vernick) writes:
> > I'm gathering information on the worlds best beaches.  I've only gotten
> > about a dozen responses but would like more.   Send me a list of
> > your favorite beaches and why. Include both pros and cons, if any.
> 

THE PENSACOLA BEACH HAS THE BEST WHITE SAND.  QUARTZITE GRAINS
ARE FINE AND POWDERY MAKING IT GREAT FOR A GAME OF VOLLEYBALL.
  THE WATER IS VERY WARM IN THE SUMMER AND NOT TOO CROWDED.
  THERE ARE FEW RESORTS ON THIS STRETCH SO DON'T GO FOR THE
 PEOPLE WATCHING.  HONOLULU IS GOOD FOR PEOPLE-WATCHING, AS
 IS MIAMI AND FORT LAUDERDALE.  OVERSEAS MAY BE BETTER AND
 I HAVEN'T BEEN TO CO SAMUI IN THAILAND WHICH HAS A HIGH REPUTATION.
  VANCOUVER'S WRECK BEACH, BY THEIR UNIVERSITY, HAS  A GOOD
 REPUTATION FOR POPULARITY SANS CLOTHES. 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu
Subject: re: Barbados recommendations wanted
Reply-To: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:25:56 GMT

When we went to Barbados several years ago, we stayed at the
Shady Lane Hotel. It was pretty nice then and I recently saw
where it has been refurbished and is back to being a very
highly rated hotel.

Kay Jones



Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: tsterkel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (terrance.e.sterkel)
Subject: Travel Agent for Germany Trip
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:03:52 GMT


From: kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kinch Malapitan)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:44:23 GMT
Subject: Re: NEW ORLEANS--share the wealth!!!
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.travel

Central Grocery - muffaletta sandwich; it's huge and a great buy for both its
taste and its price...(approx. $3.00)    
Avoid the bars on Bourbon street if $$ is a big deal - I paid $7.00 for a glass
of margarita or something like that and the size of the glass is approx. 8 oz.


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