From: anonymus+1329@godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu
Subject:      Re: Straight, gay, whatever....
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:52:17 GMT

The bottom line is:        How about moving this thread to some other
                           news group or, perhaps, discussion list?
                           And is there any appropriate?


   Alt.personals is still for ads mainly. Other groups or lists, where
sexual preferences are discussed, suffer, IMO, from the PLO/PLU
distinc-
tion (gravity, not discrimination). The subject here becomes
intriguing,
but is likely to fade soon, unless we have more straight guys ready to
supply their views and more people supporting (more or less) Drew's
attitude. On the other hand (sorry for the cliche), heterosexuals may
be rather reluctant to join a list, whose name contains "bi", "gay"
or the alike. Any ideas as to where to go?



 Drew <ina_pearce@actew.oz.au> says:

> yes I am anti-gay, because I don't see it as 'biologically'
> normal - but that  is only my opinion and everyone is entitled
> to their own...

  [stuff omitted]

> I take it you're stating that people can be born homosexual.
> I can't understand this, could you please explain.


Your concept of the `biological normality` seems somewhat unclear. If
it is concerned with the way we are born and you assume that we appear
on this world as heterosexuals, then all people, including gay, _are_
- `biologically saying` - perfectly normal. If you mean that you're
anti-gay 'cause being one is `biologically aimless`, then are you also
anti-impotent and anti-barren in right the same way? I guess we need
some further explanation. BTW, what precisely does your being anti-gay
mean/consist in?


> yes the fun does put more emphasis on sex :-) BUT I still don't
> think that is it's purpose.

Was it to say that you've got some purpose on your mind while making
love?  I'd be quite curious what kind of. Or maybe you're aware of
the existence of The Purpose, but at the very moment it just doesn't
occupy you all that much?  ;-)
  (Sounds sarcastically, but this is not My Sole Purpose. Really.)


> How can it not be a choice? Nobody puts a gun to your head
> and says be queer or else, do they?!

If there's a choice, then at some moment of life people do their
selections. Right?
Are you straight by choice? If so - when and in what circumstances
did you make the decision?             (back to the questionnaire?)

Anyway, that's another issue. Even if we are for environmental
not genetical hypotheses (I'm for the former) - it doesn't make much
difference. When one approaches the age of deciding on the lifestyle
(eg looking for a lover or a psychiatrist), hir sexual disposition
is already quite firmly established. Well, IMHO. Any other views?


I'd rather put off writing in length until we are at some more
suitable location (hoping there's still enough interest). I haven't
included the whole questionnaire, as the length, width and weight of
the stuff were just about exceeding the critical values.


                                          Greetings to all,
                                                           Matt.

P.S.
If the thread is to be continued the matter of tolerance is likely
to appear. As far as I am concerned, I'd greatly appreciate it if
the following are tolerated:
    - my anonymity  (I'm not generally out (unfortunately)(yet)),
    - my clumsy English (far from my native language).

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