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From: bugs@atlantis.uucp (Dan Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CH products trackball (Modding a Trackman)
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:21:48 GMT
Organization: Atlantis Communications, Edmonton, AB, Canada
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Jeff Hirschman (jhrschmn@jerusalem.next.com) wrote:
:    Please note that the tiff file I have seen "kicking around" only  
: applies to the *GRAY* ball LogiTech Bus Trackman, which I haven't been  
: able to find in stores for a few months.  LogiTech's new Trackman products  
: have *BLUE* balls, which, according to their customer service line, has an  
: entirely different interface.  The old, gray ball Trackman (I have one on  
: my desk) came with a plug in card for your PC compatible (which you didn't  
: use with your NeXT) -- the new one doesn't, which implies to me a  
: significant architectural change.  I would be very surprised if the old  
: modifications worked with the new products.

You'd think that they would have had blue balls before the grey ones, but
obviously some companies don't follow the same states of decay.  <grin>
So then, assuming from the mention that this was a card-based Logitech Bus
device, I wonder if we could also assume that a properly snooped Microsoft
(or other similar) Bus mouse would work...?

P.S.: As with NeXT's standard warranty, doing anything in this discussion that
  voids your warrantee is YOUR business.  No one is FORCING you to rip open a
  Trackman and make it work.  You break, you cry.
-- 
Dan Berry			bugs%atlantis@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
==============================> bugs@atlantis.uucp  =========================
"On a first date, watch how your date treats the waiter, the bartender,
	and so on.  That's how she'll be treating YOU after three months."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: atai@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andy Tai)
Subject: info nabout kernel error messages needed
Keywords: need info about possible error messages generated by the kenrel
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:43:12 GMT



Hello,
I recently post a message requesting info on /usr/adm/messages, and
received many replies pointing to the syslog man pages.  Thanks for all
the replies, and now I have another question:  Are there any documents
describing all possible kernel error messages?   The syslogd man pages do
not give much about this.   Any help is appreciated.
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Uninterruptible power supply
Date: 17 Nov 1992 05:55:45 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu
Summary: Does anyone have any experience with the Stedi-LANding system?
Keywords: UPS



Thanks to all who responded to my request for UPS info.  I have gathered info
from several manufacturers.

However, one manufacturer (StediWatt) stands out due to NeXT-specific
monitoring software (Stedi-LANding) and VERY fast switching (20 microseconds)
in its stand-by system.  They also provide built-in phone line surge protection
and a surge-protected (but not uniterruptible power) outlet for an accessory
like a laser printer.  These seem to be nice (and rather unique) features.

I'd like to buy from these guys because they are NeXT developers and seem to be
one of the only (possibly, the only) UPS manufacturers to offer a NeXTSTEP app
that monitors the UPS and the state of line power, etc.  However, they aren't
the least expensive system, so I don't want to buy something that's got known
problems (I assume StediWatt isn't a cover for Neuron :-)

So I'd like to hear of any pros and cons of the Stedi-LANding system.

Thanks
-- 

Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                             Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442                                           Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Subject: Re: Syquest?
Reply-To: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Organization: Digital Technology, International
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 02:42:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.083552.2866@toadstool.UUCP> toad@toadstool.UUCP (Kevin  
Cheek) writes:
> 	Does anyone use a Syquest drive on their NeXT? I'm thinking
> about either a Syquest or a tape drive for my NeXTstation but I
> thought I'd check for recommendations and personal experiences. I'm
> leaning towards the Syquest due to what I would assume would be easier
> (and faster) access to archived data and I don't really need to
> backup anything besides my personal files since I have the CD-ROM
> with the OS so the smaller capacity wouldm't be too much of a
> problem for backups.

The 44MB Syquest drive doesn't get along with the Maxtor 8380S (330 MB) hard  
drive, or Maxtor 8760S (660 MB) hard drive.  It will cause your system to hang.   
There was a thread on the net a couple of months ago about this, but I can also  
speak from personal experience.

The 88MB Syquest drive works fine with those two Maxtor's-- again from personal  
experience.

The 44MB Syquest drive works fine with several Quantum hard drives that I have  
tried it with (Quantums are common with NeXTstations-- but I have a cube  
myself).

Because of my experience with the 44MB drive, I would be somewhat shy about  
buying one of those.  Besides, it's fairly old techology.

I would probably favor a 90MB Bournelli drive over either Syquest drive (based  
purely on the word of a UofU Campus Consultant, who has tried both and reports  
that the Bournelli, in his opinion, is slightly faster and more reliable),  
except that few Service Bureau's seem to have Bournelli's.  And, since I also  
have an optical drive, my only reason for getting the Syquest was to get  
Linotronic output at a Service Bureau.  Hence, I didn't have much choice but to  
get a Syquest.

I sold my 44MB Syquest drive a few weeks (months?) ago.  I'm using an 88MB  
Syquest drive now.

Also, the new 128MB 3.5" MO drives look attractive, in my opinion.

--
Nevin Pratt, Digital Technology, Int'l    Orem, Ut
NeXTmail preferred, but ONLY at my REAL email address: nevin@dtint.dtint.com

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From: jblevins@uniwa.uniwa.uwa.edu (Jim Blevins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Uninterruptible power supply
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:19:12
Organization: /usr/users/jblevins/.organization
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu's message of 17 Nov 1992 05:55:45 GMT

On the subject of UPSs, can anyone recommend a model that works with
240v (or better yet, one that switches between 110 and 220-240)?

Thanx in advance for any leads,

/jim
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg  Toews)
Subject: Re: My Whites are Brighter and Whiter on the Left Side of the Screen
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:06:16 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: My Whites are Brighter and Whiter on the Left Side of the Screen
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Keywords: 

I have noticed sometimes when I have two Edit windows open
(taking up the entire screen) that the left half of the screen
is brighter than the right.  It seems to fade gradually.  This 
is on a NeXT Station Mono 25 MHz with a monitor manufactured in
January this year.  I only notice this problem? when the whole
display is white as in the above situation.

Also, I'm running NS 2.2 (latest 2.n) version for the turbo's)
with the 2.1 mach because of the floppy problem in 2.2 with 25
MHz machines.  Lately, I can no longer copy to a DOS disk.  It 
works but when I view the floppy directory on a DOS machine
or on SoftPC a file size of zero appears.  So now I do all of
my copying with SoftPC, but a few months ago I didn't need to.

Any thoughts?

Greg
:q

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mrubin@cs.umb.edu (Mark Rubin)
Subject: Is there a trim pot(entiometer) inside the NeXT monitor?
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:59:31 GMT
X-Posted-From: ra.cs.umb.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I'm not sure which model NeXT it is. The external brightness, contrast dials
don't seem to do much.

Please email me directly since I don't usually read this group.

Thanks alot!
-Mark

--
Mark Rubin
mrubin@ra.cs.umb.edu
UMass/Boston
Math and CS Dept.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: Disk mirroring
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:40:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.195158.6212@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> woneill@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu (Bill O'Neill) writes:
>Pretty basic question: Anyone know of any software (or hardware) that will
>support disk mirroring on NeXTs?

No, but I'd like to see a software-only solution to the problem.  Sun's 
disk utilities are pretty elegant.  They use the standard SCSI hardware
including the Sbus SCSI interface.  The mirrors work through the
installation of 'metadisk' drivers, that take care of writing to the
'submirrors' transparently.

This eliminates the need for specialized controllers and 'expensive' RAID
setups.  If performance is a problem, I think 10Mbit SCSI should eventually
fix it.

As more and more NeXT's are pressed into server roles, mirroring, striping,
and other high-availability technologies will be needed.

How about it NeXT?

-- 

Mark T. Dornfeld                              Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems                               Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103                Email: mark@cyantic.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.hardware:2727 comp.sys.sgi:16479
From: fineberg@wupost.wustl.edu (Charles M. Fineberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: NeXT CDROM on SGI Indigo?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:43:11 -0600
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: wuarchive.wustl.edu

olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:

>In <Bxsnu9.Bo2@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>| 
>| scsimodes reports it's a Sony CDU-541 in its cool black disguise.
>| (Sorry, I don't have an Indigo to try one out on...)

>There is a reasonably good chance that it will work with
>the ISO 9660 code then, but no gaurantees.

>It is unlikely to work for software installation.

  Why wouldn't it be able to read standard SGI disks as well as 9660
disks?  The only problem I have ever had mixing between vendors drives
and systems is in booting.  Though I have used many of the combinations
between DEC, Sun and SGI (thats six possibilities right?) I haven't
tried with any NeXT equipment.
  Or more specifically, why wouldn't a SCSI command to read a certain
block work the same on the NeXT CD as it does with any other SCSI
device?  As long as the returned blocks make sense to the machine,
the data should be "readable".  Am I missing something here?
        Charlie


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
Reply-To: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Organization: Digital Technology, International
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:37:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.222813.27641@dtint.uucp> nevin@dtint.dtint.com writes:
> The head of engineering at our department just came back from Comdex.
> He said Sun was showing their new SPARC Classic.
> He said that THEY said (the Sun people) it required Solaris 2.X to run.
> 
> Another fellow here (a manager) was keeping his eyes open to software for  
> Solaris 2.X.  He says none of the shrink-wrapped software that we are  
currently  
> using on our Suns (Sybase, uShare, etc.) work under Solaris 2.X, nor are any  
> working updates of that shrink-wrapped software expected for the near future  
> (whatever 'near' means).
> 
> So, apparantly Sun has released a new machine for which there is no software.
> Heh, heh, heh  :-)
> 
> BTW, I don't think our company will be getting any SPARC Classic's for  
awhile.
> 

Oh yea, I almost forgot...

Our CEO said he just got an OEM price sheet from Sun (we are an authorized Sun  
reseller).  He said that the OEM price for the SPARC Classic was "ND", or "No  
Discount".  So, not only does it look like we won't be getting any SPARC  
Classic's for awhile (if ever), but it also looks like we won't be selling any  
either!

--
Nevin Pratt, Digital Technology, Int'l    Orem, Ut
NeXTmail preferred, but ONLY at my REAL email address: nevin@dtint.dtint.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:16:27 GMT

lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>
>Personally, I think that 3.0 on a 16 MB mono machine runs as fast as
>I could expect a machine of that price to run.  I think that 3.0 on
>a 32 MB color machine runs as fast as most users would expect a
>personal computer to run.

Forgot to add in that last message the old truism "a computer is NEVER
fast enough."
-- 
Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbum@object.com (Bill Bumgarner)
Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
Organization: Objective Technologies,Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 22:04:52 GMT

In article <BxtxD6.4CF@research.canon.oz.au> andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy  
Newman) writes:
> You want to come and use my machine? (3.0 on a 68040 cube with 32 Mb
> and an ND board with its own 32Mb) Okay it runs with reasonable
> performance when you do one thing at a time (i.e. typing this while no
> mail arives for instance) but start a couple of compiles or get some
> text scrolling in a terminal window and say bye bye to reasonable
> response and hello to the puke colo[u]red cursor!
> -- 
> Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)

I would like to see any machine that doesn't dog out when running a couple of  
compiles-- even on a loaded machine (40+ MB w/dedicated swap-drive) with the  
memory piping flag on, the system performance goes to hell during compilation.

As far as text scrolling is concerned;  scrolling text within a set of 32-bit   
rectangles of screen space (which is what scrolling text really is-- usually  
you are only scrolling a single rectangle, though often the windowmanager is  
forced to scroll a piece of text through multiple, odd-shaped, discontiguous  
hunks of screen space) is a nasty performance hit as well... If the entire  
contents of whatever is being scrolled is cached on the ND, it shouldn't be a  
big deal.  But if the image has to be moved across the backplane (either as a  
straightforward bitmap or as a set of graphics primitives), then you get nailed  
on the lack of throughput through the backplane... which isn't terribly high.

Neither of these problems seems to be related to 3.0 as much as related to  
simply asking the computer to do some incredibly busy type stuff...
--
Bill Bumgarner <bbum@object.com> | "The devils of truth...
Objective Technologies, Inc.     |    steal the souls of the free." -- NIN
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From: Eco_-_Development@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CDaudio - again and again!
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 19:37:19 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Oh why, oh why?
>
>Once  again,  why don't the   CDaudio players work  with  other CD-ROM
>players than NeXT's own?
>
>I had  a  Hitachi that didn't  work and now I got  an AppleCD  150 and
>still nothing. Isn't this  AppleCD nearly the  same Sony hardware that
>NeXT's own have inside?

	Audio commands are Hardware specific.  The Hitachi uses the same commands
	as the chinon series of CD-Rom drives.  There are many different roms
	that come with sony mechanisms.  And apparently the audio commands changed
	with the rom revisions.
>
>Any workable solutions -  it doesn't help me  much if you say that buy
>the NeXTCD...
>
>Please answer me personally.
>
>-harri-
>--
>///// Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi, NeXTmail: hv@bacall.uwasa.fi)
>///// University of Vaasa, P.O.Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland
>///// Telephone:+358 61 3248364  fax:+358 61 3248465
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>


Brick
Eco Development
From: charuhas@virtual4.harvard.edu (Thomas Charuhas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Should I buy a NeXT -> Thanks!
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:23:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Nov18.152314.27777
Distribution: na
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University


 
> > - First of all I like to run graphical apps.
> >   I want to make animations, and I need the video I/O ports.
> >   I also need the 32 bits color, but that's not the _most_ important  
thing.

I hate to do this, since I am a NeXT owner, but I would encourage
you to look at the new Amiga 4000 if you are thinking about
doing animation and video work. There is a plethora of
solid modeling/ray tracing software available, as well as
a whole assortment of video production software AND hardware.
(If you see the Video Toaster you'll see what I mean).

If you will be doiny ANY development or lots of desktop publishing etc
then I would advise you to go for the NeXT.
From: putzolu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (David Putzolu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What computer to buy>
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:55:02 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article dasu@sscux1.ssc.gov (Sridhara Dasu) writes:
>
>You should not be comparing NeXTStation Turbo Color with Quadra 700.
>You should compare it with Quadra 900. Turbo and 900 both have 33MHz
>68040, 700 has 25MHz. To account for all costs add price of Mathematica,
>C-Compiler + Software development tools, and Textures for MAC. If you
>still find MAC to be cheaper than NeXT we would like to hear from you.
>
>                               - Sridhara

For the needs the person listed, Mathematica, a C-compiler, development
tools, and Textures were worthless. Why make force the Quadra to have
these extra capabilities & force the user to pay for them when they
don't need it?

If you are talking about the general case of NeXT v. Mac prices,
check out comp.sys.mac.advocacy, there has been a thread there for
a while on this very subject.

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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT CDROM on SGI Indigo?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:41:55 GMT

olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:

>In <Bxrv7x.M9E.2@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes:
>| Well, the subject pretty much says it all.  Has anyone
>| tried to use a NeXT CDROM drive with SGI's Iris Indigo
>| series? If so, let me know how it turned out.

>If you could tell us what brand and model it is, there might be
>a bit better chance of telling.  Based on conversations with
>a NeXT engineer, I doubt it would work for installing software on
>anything except (maybe!) an r4k Indigo.  It might be usable
>for ISO9660 disks once the system is up if it is a Sony or
>Toshiba drive.

scsimodes reports it's a Sony CDU-541 in its cool black disguise.
(Sorry, I don't have an Indigo to try one out on...)
-- 
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From: Eco_-_Development@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Should I buy a NeXT -> Thanks!
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:40:43 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1992Nov18.152314.27777@das.harvard.edu>,<1992Nov19.065446.3742@csus.edu>
  <00963D85.907611C0@vms.csd.mu.edu>

>In article <1992Nov19.065446.3742@csus.edu>, eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) write
s
>:
>>In article <1992Nov18.152314.27777@das.harvard.edu>
>>       charuhas@virtual4.harvard.edu (Thomas Charuhas) writes:
>>>I hate to do this, since I am a NeXT owner, but I would encourage
>>>you to look at the new Amiga 4000 if you are thinking about
>>>doing animation and video work. There is a plethora of
>>>solid modeling/ray tracing software available, as well as
>>>a whole assortment of video production software AND hardware.
>>>(If you see the Video Toaster you'll see what I mean).
>>
>>I thought the Video Toaster "absolutely, positively" would NOT
>>work with the Amiga 4000--and that NewTek had *no* plans to
>>support the 4000.  Feel free to cite authoritative statements
>>to the contrary.
>>
>>                                       -=EPS=-
>>--
>>We need the Amiga to "succeed" so we can keep making fun of it.
>
>Nope, I've used one with a A4000.  It will NOT work internally as
>it does with the A2000, but there's nothing to prevent you from
>using it externally with a third-party product, called Toaster-Cozy.
>Followups to comp.sys.amiga.graphics.
>
> ----------------------------
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> 2575BrooksR@vms.csd.mu.edu                  out of quarters."
> Marquette University EECE
> NemeSys Corporation
> "Curtains for Windows"
>

The Toaster will *not* work in a 4000.  But it will work in an
040' Amiga 3000.  There is a '3000' version of the Toaster
due out soon, according to Tim Jennison(sp?) (President NewTek).
There are reputed problems with the Toaster Cozy and the 4000.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stein@sionext.uio.no (Stein Onsrud)
Subject: Philips CD Recordable
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:13:57 GMT

I recently looked at a phillips recording machine for CD. and was very  
interested in using it on my NeXT. are there anyone out there that knows  
anything about device drivers or application support for this machine on a  
NeXT workstation ?

Stein Onsrud
SiO Data
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From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:36:24 GMT

neubert@cuphub.cup.edu writes:
>I thought I'd heard somewhere that the microSPARC processor in the
>new Sun Classics and LXs was much cheaper than even a 486 chip
>(in quantity, of course).  Made by TI, which was an early believer
>in the pricing curve, but then lost the memory/processor wars.

Yes.  That's correct.  The TI TMS390S10 aka Tsunami aka microSPARC
is $179 "in production quantities".  The Intel 486DX/50 is $502.