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From: tperreau@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (The Mad Scot)
Subject: Re: * Wanted: Star Trek sound for Mac
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 04:41:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.174704.2431@njitgw.njit.edu> meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes:
>Howdy,
>	I'm looking for a Trak sound on the Mac for my terminal program.
>Right now it says 'Transfer Complete' which I'm getting REAL tired of. I
>was looking for a line from Star Trek TOS or TNG where someone says
>"Transfer successful" or something like that. I don't have a recorder or
>I'd do it myself. I looked at the files on smaug.cs.hope.edu, but they
>don't have anything that I really think fits. If anyone can tell me
>where to get one, I'd appreciate it.
>
>===========================================================================
>"We seek peaceful coexistance!"		      |		 Mike
>"Yeah, and monkeys will fly outa my butt!"    |	  meg5184@hertz.njit.edu
>===========================================================================
>		Wayne's World: The Next Generation...NOT!
>===========================================================================

Ok - here you go!

sumex-aim has ftp-able sounds
America Online has downloadable sounds - I suggest that you also
download Soundmaster to be fully compatable (sone sounds are FSSD
format - whatever the Hell that is :-).  Some of the sounds that I
have got from AO are as follows

Scotty - "I can't change the laws of physics"
Scotty - "We'll have to tap the power we need from the warp engines"
Scotty - "The best dimplomat is a fully charged phaser bank"
TOS - phaser sound
TOS - photon torpedo (this I use to empty the trash :-)
Worf - "I protest!  I am not a merry man!"
Worf - "Klingons do not allow themselves to be ... probed"
Worf - "Nice planet!"
Worf - "You are not Feklar"
Worf - "Nice legs...for a human"

If you need more info on sumex-aim or AO - post or send e-mail.

-- 
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Tony Perreault, High Tech Babysitter & Nanny	tperreau@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
Array Operations, Very Large Array	      All opinions expressed are my
Socorro, NM				        own and not those of NRAO
From: sdh5@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Hurley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Asimov lost
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:47:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.194736.6963
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Isaac Asimov died this morning , April 6, 1992 A.D.

Who's left?
-- 
Though it will take me to Forever's Rim,
I sail through the reaches of Time's Twilight Dim.
Questing for Knowledge, on Night's Darkest Sea,
Bound for those shores enshrouded by Mystery.  --Thaliaer's Oath
From: ohrd!sweston@cs.toronto.edu (Simon Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Deja vu
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:55:33 GMT
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"

she was also  "Number One" in ---> "The Cage"

sivo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Louis Sivo) writes:
: 
: > Is the actress that played Nurse Chappel(sp) in the original
: > Star Trek the same actress who now plays Lwaxana Troi the 
: > obnoxious mother of Deanna Troi in TNG??
: 
: Yes, she is one and the same. The actress is Majel Barret (spelling?).
: She ended up marrying Gene Roddenberry, I think after the original series
: ended.
: 
: She is also the voice of the computer in TNG. It's listed in the credits.
: 
: -- Louis Sivo
:    sivo@cup.hp.com  
-- 
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From: jmartine@zeus.calpoly.edu (Joe Martinez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Troi nude gifs (where?!?)
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:59:02 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

(Scott Barker) writes:
>I finally got through to the ftp site. I found out why everyone seems to be
>having trouble: there is a password protocol in effect there now. Ah well.
>

I got the password, but still can't find the Sirtis picture. I found the 
Crosby one, though.

-- 
Joe Martinez  (jmartine@ares.calpoly.edu)
"When you base your life on credit, and your loving days are done, checks
 you sign with love and kisses later come back signed INSUFFICIENT FUNDS."
                                                           -Funkadelic
From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: 3 in 1 Opinionated Comments (1st season episodes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:22:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.153300@sdd.hp.com> harris@sdd.hp.com (John Harris) writes:
>In article <1992Apr09.211512.21757@eng.umd.edu>, wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
>|> In article <1992Apr9.122821@sdd.hp.com> harris@sdd.hp.com (John Harris) writes:
>|> 
>|> >Agreed.  This is further evidence to me that TOS had better character
>|> >development than TNG (No TOS vs TNG flame war please).  
>|> 
>|> No flames, I just get a chuckle every time I see this statement.  *What* 
>|> character development?  I honestly can't tell what season of TOS I'm watching
>|> whenever I catch one because the characters *always* act the same, they're
>|> very predictable. 
>
    TNG's
>|> characters are flat and stagnant, 
>

Riker is the worst offender here, or actually the writers are the
offenders.  Riker is just a poor paper sap who got pasted on cardboard
and shoved around by lazy hacks.

I do think that TOS's characters were more believably fallible, with
more quirks and tics that real people would have.  The TNG characters
are so-o-o-o-o-o-o damned perfect, nary a political hair out of place
(strangely enough, but for Riker), and I'd give my eyeteeth to see just
one of them lose their temper and throw something, or belly-laugh at a
joke.

TOS, however, does have the advantage of having twenty-five years worth
of development in the minds of the fans behind it.  Really, Kirk's
feelings about his parents and brother, and McCoy's divorce are fan
myth!  Uhura's linguistics competance is NEVER hinted at; I would think
she learned Swahili natively, which does not require any particular
linguistics ability.  Sulu's swordsmanship was hinted at only when he
was drunk; I once saw someone put a hat on his head when he was smashed
and start to recite "Give me liberty or give me death."  Didn't make him
particularly patriotic nor a haberdasher.  Scotty was certainly
concerned about his engine room, but there was really only ONE LINE
(from the tribble thang) that even made us suspect that he considered it
the highest form of religion known to humanity.

The rest comes from years and years and YEARS AND YEARS of books and
mythology.  Give the TNG characters a chance.  They WILL improve over
time.

I STILL would like to see one of them burp or sneeze or something,
though . . .

Figuratively speaking. 

Regards,
Janis C.
 
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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Star Trek's Classics - Top 10 List
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:13:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.223618.6365@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr12.230509.28946@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>
>>Sure, Kirk is showy and flamboyant -- that's the kind of man Kirk
>>is and if he succeeds in projecting the emotions I'm supposed to be feeling,
>>it's in no way "bad acting".
>
>I disagree.  Acting, to me, is not supposed to hold up a sign saying "Feel
>THIS emotion now!"  It's got to be a bit better than that.  You've pointed 
>out places before where Stewart manages to get the point and the emotions
>across without being forced (some quite recently), and I agree.  Shatner
>rarely if ever managed it, IMHO.

I agree with your point about acting vs. overacting but that wasn't
what I was referring to. There's a difference between "Kirk being
loud and expressive because he *is* a loud and expressive man" and "Shatner
blowing the scenery to smithereens by multiplying that expressiveness
by 10^4 and adding ridiculous faces in the bargain." I was referring to the 
former in my paragraph -- to me, that feels natural and unforced. 

I will agree that Shatner tended to do the latter more than the former on
average.


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TNG Lifelines: From "Yesterday's Enterprise" To "The First Duty" --
  "Prior to Starfleet Academy commencement ceremonies, an in-flight
   accident destroys five ships, including the one carrying Wesley
   Crusher" -- TV Guide: Mar. 28 - Apr. 3

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From: st185@jane.uh.edu (Roche, Robert F.)
Subject: Using Old trek stars on new trek holodeck!!!!!!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:06:00 GMT


This is just an idea that I think that would really be a blast.  Also good
for ratings.  

Instead of looking at the old medical records of McCoy on a weird strain of
mutant virus... call up the holo-image and talk it out with him.

Or better yet Can you imagine Riker talking tactics with an image of Kirk!

the possibilities are endless.  I am sure that Sulu would just love to appear
on one of the Next Gen. shows....

BTW this idea is not my own, it is just passed on by me to get to the net.
but I do beleive that it is a good idea.  

ANY COMMENTS???

Robert F Roche III
original idea by L.E. Stephens of S.A. Tx.
From: ESCHLENE@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Eric Schlene)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: breathing space, was Re: 10 Forward windows...
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:40:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University

In article <2020.684.uupcb@matrix.sbs.com> judy.ranelli@matrix.sbs.com (Judy
Ranelli)  writes:
>-> Gee, Mike, I hope you never have to transport claustrophobic whales.
>-> As a rule, I generally like to have windows, too.
>->
>-> Besides, Kirk & co. couldn't have looked at them in the holding tank
>-> if it had been made of steel.
>
>But here's another YATI: Whales have to BREATHE. How could they in a
>tank full of water? They didn't mention "breathing space".
>
>judy
>                
>

Whales don't breath like you or me. They can go down for something like 20
minutes or so (not positive on length of time, perhaps more). I think the movie
director assumed that we all understood that the whales had been holding their
breath for the return trip around the sun. If you remember from the movie,
there was some concern after the crash to get the whales free, or "they'll
drown."


-eric
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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Star Trek's Classics - Top 10 List
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:36:42 GMT

kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.223618.6365@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:

>>>Sure, Kirk is showy and flamboyant -- that's the kind of man Kirk
>>>is and if he succeeds in projecting the emotions I'm supposed to be feeling,
>>>it's in no way "bad acting".
>>
>>I disagree.  Acting, to me, is not supposed to hold up a sign saying "Feel
>>THIS emotion now!"  It's got to be a bit better than that.  You've pointed 
>>out places before where Stewart manages to get the point and the emotions
>>across without being forced (some quite recently), and I agree.  Shatner
>>rarely if ever managed it, IMHO.

>I agree with your point about acting vs. overacting but that wasn't
>what I was referring to. 

Fine.  Saying "if he succeeds in projecting the emotions I'm supposed to be
feeling" suggests just that to me, but it's personal idiosyncrasies, I 
imagine.

Tim Lynch
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From: kibo@world.std.com (James 'Kibo' Parry)
Subject: Re: Exploding (kibo?) (was, inscrutably Re: Waterworlds)
Organization: A room filled with typography (in Boston's Back Bay)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:54:32 GMT

[seen in rec.arts.startrek.misc]
In article <1992Apr9.024641.27782@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
>>WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP LYING AND SAYING THAT I WON'T EXPLODE?
>
>BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T GET /YOU/ TO EAT THE BLASTING CAPS, WHO CAN WE?!

I HEARD FROM BIFF'S BROTHER THAT SPEAKING IN CAPS CAN MAKE YOUR HEAD EXP}7i
NO CARRIER
From: kfree@arghouse.UUCP (Kenneth Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Klingon gestation period
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:09:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: arghouse.VDg0iB3w164w
Distribution: ca
Organization: The Listening Post

winicur@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Zev Winicur) writes:

> ESCHLENE@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Eric Schlene) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Apr10.185147.1965@wuecl.wustl.edu> mnk1@cec1.wustl.edu
> >(Menelaos N. Karamichalis) writes:
> >>Does anyone know how long does it take from the time a Klingon kid is 
> >>conceived to the point that it is born?  It is not clear to me, since
> >>I could not tell how long it took with Worf's kid.
> >>I anxiously wait for an answer.
> >>
> 
> >I can't believe my eyes! To speak of this. . .it. . .has no honor. It is sim
> >not Kling.
> 
> I have also been interested in the question of Klingon gestation and rate of
> growth.  The first time we see Alexander, he was supposed to be about 2 years
> old and yet he looked more like 6 to me.  Anyone have connections with the
> writers to find out about this for Klingons and/or Vulcans?  For purely
> scientific curiosity of course.
> 
> 					
> 
> _______     __   ,     _____/  *
>       |       \       /  |     *  Zev Winicur
>       |        \         |     *  winicur@beagle.colorado.edu
> ______|_    |   \        |     *

 
This may not be canonical, but Klingons have shorter lifespans
than Humans, which is why they were in such a hurry to conquer. 
They'd probably be in a hurry to be born, too. 

---
If people did not sometimes do silly things,
nothing intelligent would ever get done. -Wittgenstein
kfree@arghouse.UUCP or ...!crash!nusdecs!arghouse!kfree
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: cs201139@batman.acslab.umbc.edu (cs201139)
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine, Eve and Data
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County, Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:38:14 GMT

>I watched Mann & machine last night... and I agree with a few people it does
>seem to cash in on the TNG/Data Android theme.  Although one thing did biug
>me... this android seem to put Data to shame (emotions, mannerisms), although
>she (Eve, the androidette) did start using cliche's just like Data did; all
>wrong and too many at a time.  She used ONE contraction.  A few "can nots".
>I, being an ultimate Data fan (and even more so a Lore fan) felt that Eve made
>Soong's work look like silly putty.  But then, these are two different shows
>and I'm getting nitpicky because I have had no sleep this weekend and because
>I feel that Soong androids are the only ones for me. (If I could find one :)

It would have been all to easy to make Data 100% human even in appearance, but
you have to remember there are no real androids today and maybe not even in
the 24th century. How can you put down Data just because another TV show
comes up with a more 'HUMAN' android? I truely doubt we will have anything
that complex this time soon. They are still trying to make a computer's
brain as complex as a slug's and are having all sorts of problems. It will
be quite some time before a computer can be as complex as a human and also
be as small and compact.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Picard Manuver
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 10:50:39 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Aside from the episodic explanation of the Picard Manuever, the inside staff
jokes at the way Picard tugs his jacket uniform everytime he gets up as well as
everyone else on the show does... :)
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From: harris@sdd.hp.com (John Harris)
Subject: Re: 3 in 1 Opinionated Comments (1st season episodes)
Reply-To: harris@sdd.hp.com (John Harris)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr09.211512.21757@eng.umd.edu>, wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr9.122821@sdd.hp.com> harris@sdd.hp.com (John Harris) writes:
|> 
|> >Agreed.  This is further evidence to me that TOS had better character
|> >development than TNG (No TOS vs TNG flame war please).  
|> 
|> No flames, I just get a chuckle every time I see this statement.  *What* 
|> character development?  I honestly can't tell what season of TOS I'm watching
|> whenever I catch one because the characters *always* act the same, they're
|> very predictable. 

I see your point. Maybe character "development" wasn't the right word.  I 
am trying to say that the TOS's characters and their interactions were
more interesting to me.

|> Now, admittably, this is part of TOS's charm.  The 
|> characters are flat and stagnant, 

That is how I feel about most of TNG's characters (especially Dr. Crusher,
Troi, and Riker).

|> but they're very likeable.  You knew what
|> to expect from them all the time.  TNG has taken a different and more mature
|> approach to their characters, *all* of them are different than they were
|> first season, some overtly so, some subltly.  Data and Worf are the two most
|> obvious examples, and they're probably the most popular characters because of
|> it.

Agreed.

John Harris

|> -- 
|> Jose Gonzalez
|>                        Spock- "In your own way, you are as stubborn as another
|>                                captain of the Enterprise I once knew."
|>                        Picard-"Then I'm in good company, sir."  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:50:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.231550.26671@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mbrockma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.201714.2513@acsu.buffalo.edu> v122kzkw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr10.164810.18407@cco.caltech.edu>, tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes...
>>>hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Apr9.194044.470@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey, in "Cause and Effect", it was *36* seconds to a particular critical
>>>>>event.  Twice 18.  :-)
>>> 
>>>>One of the most frequently used numbers is '4077'.  As Okuda is a M*A*S*H fan,
>>>>it can be found on almost every panel or computer display.
>>> 
>>>Yep--and look!  Adding up the digits in 4077 gives you...18!  :-)
>>> 
>>Don't forget Deep Space Nine... Nine being half of 18. :^>
>And the normal compliment of "major" charatcters on the bridge
>is 6! 1/3 of 18!

I'm going to be a spoilsport. We have a "Number One" on the bridge:
that's "1", which is 1/18 of 18. Two for the price of one.


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TNG Lifelines: From "Yesterday's Enterprise" To "Cause & Effect" --
  "Captain, we are getting unusual readings 20,000 km off the
   starboard bow." -- Worf, Worf, Worf and Ensign Ro.

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From: molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Cause and Effect..
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:52:34 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

Todd.Sullivan@f91.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Sullivan) writes:

>It would be next to impossible for 1701-D to go back, as the Galaxy
>class is so large.  The Structural Integrity Field (SIF) wouldn't be
>able to handle the strain (see ST:TNG tech manual).  The other ship
>could, but the reference points used for navigation would not be
>those used in 2278.  The Boskone (?) is trapped in the 24th century.

I seem to recall Kirk and Spock made THEIR Enterprise go backwards
simply by warping headlong into Sol and then slingshotting themselves
into another time/date...

   -MOlin
From: hermit@dastari.uucp (Mark Buda)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Why New jersey?
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:03:45 GMT
	<29E481DE.3553@noiro.acs.uci.edu>
	<1992Apr13.213711.12719@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Organization: Competitive Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.213711.12719@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:
>It's been a while, but isn't New Jersey the setting for Bucaroo Bonzi?

Yes.

>Considering that there have been a number of Bucaroo Bonzi jokes in
>ST:TNG, I wouldn't be surprised if that's why NJ shows up with
>unusuall frequency.

? Name some Buckaroo Banzai references. I don't remember ever seeing
any.

>(Why wasn't "New Jersey" the clue for Cause and Effect?)

Because Riker is from Alaska.
--
Mark Buda
"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
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From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: Series' beginnings (was something about 3 in 1 review)
To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Posted-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 23: 33:19 cst
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:33:19 GMT
Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 00: 31:52 CDT


Someone (sorry, the article was too long for me to sift through
to get an attribution) started comparing TOS's "Where No Man
Has Gone Before" to TNG's "Encounter at Farpoint".

This is interesting, because I was just thinking to myself that
almost EXACTLY half the TNG episodes have been better and half
have been worse than the original two-hour premier.

On the other hand, at least 90% of the TOS episodes were better
than WNMHGB.  From such a lame beginning, it was extremely hard
for them to come up with a worse piece of dreck than the opener.
The only ones that come to mind right now are "Charlie X",
"The Doomsday Machine", and "And the Children Shall Leave."
At least "Spock's Brain" and "The Way to Eden" were fun to 
laugh at.

There was really no way TOS could have got any worse from that
dismal start.  Perhaps that's why it is so lauded today.  It
was able to make itself so much better than what it started
with.

TNG, on the other hand, started out with a decent show and 
has had some great shows and a few stinkers... but ON THE 
WHOLE it has been about as good as the first episode.

		--Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer

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