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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Stein/Einsturzende Neubauten
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:52:21 GMT

In article <bmyers.721524612@well.sf.ca.us> bmyers@well.sf.ca.us (Bryan L
 Myers) writes:
>
>I've seen that Stein recording in the underground stores; but,
>have hesitated on buying it because I've no idea what it's like.
>Has anyone heard Stein's "Steinzeit" ?
>
>Einsturzende Neubauten is NOT pop-industrial (e.g., NE, NIN, DW).
>Einsturzende Neubauten is genuine Industrial (e.g., TG, SP, M).
>So, listen to EN and you will be saved !


 I bought it the same week that I got my copy of Die Hamletmaschine for
$15.00. I LOVED it. It's very good. Lots of classical bits and
Neubauteneque bits abound. Well  worth getting, especially for any fan of
Neubauten!

St. Anthony

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          / N \   O         Laszt uns're Seelen vom Schimmel befreien!
         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Reznor's "Sanctified"
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:52:48 GMT

nc313060@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

>Does anyone know what Trent Reznor is saying in the background of "Sanctified"
>on Pretty Hate Machine? All I can make out is;

>		"Dear Mom and Dad, This is the hardest letter 
>		 I've ever had to write....."

>And then I can't HEAR anything else!!!! It is bugging me!

I ran this through a mixdown processor, then a reverse instrumentation
eliminator.  The vocals were still hard to hear, but I was able to make out
the rest of Mr. Reznor's words, here is the transcript in full:

Dear Mom and Dad,
   This is the hardest letter I've ever had to write.  I've felt for many
years that I was a spectator upon life.  In many ways I never really was here,
but for the most part, I tried my best to treat my fellow man with respect and
and kindness.  In the coming months and the years that follow, I hope to make
a break upon the music scene.  The record company has hired some damn fine
producers that could even make Lawrence Welk into a dance-industrial band.
Although I shun the dance-industrial scene, I feel that if poseurs like Bill
Leeb can do it, then surely an angry young wanker like myself may have a
chance.  Mom and Dad, this isn't what this letter is about though.  Many years
ago, you wondered what happened to "Sammy" my pet snake.  I woke up one
morning and exclaimed that he was gone.  I remember putting on quite a show
for you, and even though you promised to buy me a new snake, I knew that there
would be another "Sammy".  You see, "Sammy" was my masturbatory plaything.  I
would get quite a thrill out of stuffing snake food up my rectum to coax the
vegetable-oiled "Sammy" into my nether regions.   I would then clamp down upon
said pet snake and run around the room naked as if I were the devil himself.
Hootin' and a hollerin', I was sure that I would make it to the bigtime if I
put so much energy into my own private shows.  Well, the night before
"Sammy's" "disappearance", I tripped on my Barbi Hotel(tm) and broke "Sammy's"
back.  As "Sammy" gasped his last breath, I kissed him gently on the head and
flushed him down the toilet.  So there you have it!  The true fate of "Sammy"!

Love, Trent.
-- 
		       "I'm Slash man, Slash!" - Slash

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: That NIN fella IS HE DEAD???????
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 11:18:22 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

<JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> My boyfriend wants me to post this asking you if Trent Reznor is DEAD!!!!  He
> said that someone told him that he died of a heroine overdose, and the dude
> said it was NO LIE!!!  Does anyone out there know if this is true?  I am not
> tryong to start amy rumors, I just want the facts!
>
> Jill

I had a dream that happened.

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ xorcist@cyberden.uucp ]
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From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Re: Current 93?
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 21:45:33 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Nov4.154157.20322@ultb.isc.rit.edu> djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu writes:

> In article <1992Nov4.125913.21541@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu ( ) writes:
> }
> }I just bought C93's "Looney Runes" and loved it.  Is this type of stuff normal
> }for them, or did I just hit jackpot?  Which other albums should I rush right
> }out and buy if I liked this one?
> }
> 
> Well, as of late you won't hear that kinda stuff coming from Current 93.
> But, I don't think thats a bad thing at all.... Dave's accoustic work
> is incredible.   I really dig the noise too though, Pick up "Crooked
> Crosses for the Nodding God" or "Dog's Blood Rising" and give them 
> a listen. You won't find anything exactly like "Looney Runes",
> that may because its a live recording though...

	Well, check out their latest, THUNDER PERFECT MIND. Most of it is real
mellow acoustic stuff along the same lines... I reccomend it.

> -- 
>    | Don Smith                                                          |
>    | djs6015@ultb.rit.edu                        djs6015@ritvax.BITNET  |
>    | I've got the image of jesus inbedded in my chest  -Christian Death |
>    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

J. David Dickens . . . dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu 
-----------------------------------------------------
"Ignorance is a dish that is best served with a side
order of fries and a Coke..."
				  ---me
From: brian@nx27.mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Pigface bootleg
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:34:05 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I was recently at a record show and picked up a Pigface bootleg tape.  It  
wasn't exactly what I expected, though.  Almost the entire thing is an  
interview with the members of the band (most of it mixed in an almost  
Negativland sort of way).  Chris Connelly tries to explain the motives  
behind Pigface with some interviewer (named Jason I think) and at one  
point tries to make the interviewer admit that he hates Pigface.  There  
are only 3 actual songs on the tape, at least that's all I can remember  
since I've only listened to it once.  I was wondering if anyone has come  
accross something similar.  The strange thing is that it is all quite good  
quality, making me worry that maybe I somehow got either really screwed or  
really lucky.
Thanks
-Brian
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From: smurray@mta.ca
Subject: Re: SP very weird.
Reply-To: smurray@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:59:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.132407.660@ab.wvnet.edu>, onda@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>	hey is skinny puppy into anything not "kosher" cause
>	i like to fall a sleep listening to cd's on repeat play
>	and  i have had many a weird dreams while listening to it.
>	i know orge is out to inform people about nature and all that
>	but some of the music out there is pretty torked.  just wondering
>	

Is Skinny Puppy weird?  In a word... Yes.  Quite.  And the assertion that
you are having weird dreams while falling asleep to Ogre suggests that his
plans of world domination are reaching their final stages.  

Long Live the Mighty Voice of the Damned!!
And to Hell With any Bullshit!!

Hey, humourous post, humourous reply.

Sean AM

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From: dbyrne@unix1.tcd.ie (daniel byrne)
Subject: Sampled from what???
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:16:39 GMT

 I was just wondering where the sample at the beginning of TOO DARK PARK
comes from, you know "He sees monsters....he is losing his mind and
feels it going". The request has probably been made before but I just
 wanted to know as THERAPY? use it on their new album (on the single,
actually) and a friend was asking about it, ya know?

 Oh, in case anyone was wondering THERAPY?'s new album isn't the best
but there are some good things there, like "Nausea" which starts with
Nick Cave screaming "Here I am, motherf*ckers" from the Ghosts Of The 
 Civil Dead (I think). "Deep Sleep" is fairly alright also, methinks.
"Accelerator" is probably the best on, though. (Maybe THERAPY? shouldn't
be in this newsgroup as there not really an industrial band, although
 who is?)

  Well anyway, would anyone be able to help with my little inquiry?

    Thanks in advance.......

dan


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From: lfiddick@nyx.cs.du.edu (larry fiddick)
Subject: Re: Recommendations Wanted
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 01:46:37 GMT


perhaps i really haven't heard all that much, but i don't really hear what
all the hype about tg is, but if you like it no problem. of the others you
listed i'd recommend the hafler trio's 'intoutof', spk's 'zamia lehmanni'
test department's 'the unacceptable face of freedom', nurse with wound's
'gyllenskold/brained' and i'd second the recommendation of einsturzende
neubauten, particualarly their 'drawings of o.t.' and add a strong
recommendation for diamanda galas' 'saint of the pit/the divine
punishment'. there are of course other releases that as good or if not
better by the above, but they'd probably be too difficult to find. oh if
you run across current 93's 'live at bar maldoror' and the price seems
reasonable i'd pick up that one too. unfortunately i normally find if i'm
looking for it, they don't have it.

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From: nc313060@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: SCARIEST song ever?
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:52:30 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <q1qDTB1w164w@cellar.org>, darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
> jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason M. Roth) writes:
> 
>> I don't know how I failed to think of it before, and I'm ashamed that
>> other people had to mention the doors to make me think of it, but:
>> "Horse Lattitudes" was definitely recorded in Hell (check the whips,
>> howls and screams in the background).
> 
> Good heavens, yes.  Someone should've brought that up a long time ago.
> 
> My nomination for scariest song: "God's Gift Maggot" by Skinny Puppy (from
> the superb _Mind:_The_Perpetual_Intercourse_ album).  Do NOT listen to it
> alone in a dark room.
> 
> ======================//====================================================
> =  Thomas A. Darling  \\  The Cellar BBS: 215.654.9184 Notorious Net.Site  =
> =  darling@cellar.org  \\  Clinton/Gore'92: Ding, dong, the Bush is dead!  =
> =======================//===================================================

I have a few songs to offer that aren't really scary in content, but for some
reason, they give me the willies.

I think "Church" by Skinny Puppy is a bit on the creepy side.
"You and Me and Rainbows" by Tear Garden freaks me out because of the samples.
"Abatoir" by X Marks the Pedwalk is good.

I only have the live version of "God's Gift Maggot" from "Ain't it Dead Yet",
and it is definately enough to make you reach for a light switch.

Stephani Nichelle
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From: dexter@news.mr.med.ge.com.UUCP (Donald Dexter 4-6489 ~BHOSVWZ#090)
Subject: Re: Current 93?
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:51:23 GMT


some talk about C93 releases lately.   i've got a couple
(imperium and nature unveiled) and kinda like 'em, but not
enough to go get lots more.  could someone in the know pls
post a comprehensive summary of their work.  maybe just
a couple sentances about each release.

this would be much appreciated indeed.

thanx,

-don.
From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: who is william s. burroughs
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:11:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov10.071154.4942
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

lazarus@ug.cs.dal.ca (Chuck Turner) writes:
: In article <BxGo17.CFM@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> kundert@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (nobody ) writes:
: >sorry for be so ignorant, but who is william s. burroughs?
: >heard al deadicate just one fix to him at lollapalooza and
: >just saw "special thanks to William S. Burroughs" at the 
: >end of the director's cut blade runner.
: 
: He wrote 'The Naked Lunch'.  Go to your local video store and rent it...
: its well worth it.

AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEE!!!  That's like someone asking who Paul Bowles
is and telling them to rent "Sheltering Sky"!  DO NOT rent the movie
first, read the damn book.  The movie is fine, but it bears little
or no resemblance, and the real heart of WSB's work cannot make
it to a mainstream movie.

He's thanked in "Blade Runner" because he was responsible for
the title, indirectly; he wrote a book called that long before
the movie (which is based on a Dick novel of a different name).
WSB's book has nothing to do with the movie whatsoever, btw.


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From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Subject: Front242 vs. Yellow
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:44:56 GMT

A friend just loaned me the disc 'Stella' by the group Yellow.  Definately
not industrial, but probably not anything concrete for that matter.  The
songs varried drastically.  (this is the group that did "Oh Yeah" which was
used in the Ferris Beuler's Day Off movie).

Anyway, one song on the album (called "Domingo") sounded quite a lot like
Front242... the beat, key changes, and note-holding in the background, with
chant-like lyrics which are something about Jesus (much in Spanish I think).

Just an observation, don't know if that was interesting.

Has anyone heard this song or others by Yellow.  Am I insane for drawing
similarities to Front242.

Oh well,

Dave
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From: mentor@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (THE BRAIN BUSTER)
Subject: Re: Foetus and Ministry lyrics wanted !
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:58:51 GMT

hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:

>In article <1992Nov6.132121.4824@cs.tu-berlin.de> mentor@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de  
>(THE GREAT MENTOR) writes:
>> I am looking for lyrics of Ministry and Foetus!
>> Are there any ftp-sites they are on?
>> Does anyone have lyrics and would be so kind to mail them to me?
>
>The lyrics to almost every Foetus song come with their respective albums  
>(except Deaf and Ache which I can't vouch for, and the Nail _CD_ doesn't come  
>with them, but the LP does -- and, of course, not Rife or Male, but that's no  
>big surprise or problem.  Butterfly Potion is an exception, I guess--that comes  
>with no lyrics).  Which ones were you looking for?

Actually I'm looking for all of them because most of Foetus' stuff
I just copied from one person who doesn't want to give me the
lyrics because he needs them every day and every night (stupid guy).
On the LPs I can call my own the lyrics are not included!
On "Nail" there are no lyrics in my LP!

So I need all of the lyrics and if you have a hint where I can get them
I would be very pleased!

But some other questions:
I have never heart of "Deaf" and "Ache". From which years are they?
I only know following Foetus releases:

"Hole"
"Nail"
"Thaw"
"Rife"
"Male"
"Sink"
"Butterfly Potion" (12 ")

Can anybody complete the list so that I know what I don't have.
I also know very little about Foetus. Who are they? Where do they
come from?

A lot of questions. I hope anybody can answer them!



	THE BRAIN BUSTER (was: THE GREAT MENTOR)

--
"Why is it that the world never remembers the name of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-gr
andlich-grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-nrnburger-bratwurstle-gerspurten-mitz-weimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-shnendanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher Von Hauptkopft of Ulm?"
                                                Arthur Figgis (Graham Chapman)
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From: maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes)
Subject: Re: Einsturzende Neubauten Tour ?
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:00:54 GMT

In article <bmyers.721478662@well.sf.ca.us> bmyers@well.sf.ca.us (Bryan L. Myers) writes:
>
>The RUMOUR here in Detroit is that it is only Einsturzende Neubauten's
>lead singer Blixa Bargeld that is stopping in Toronto and Chicago.
>He was interviewed back stage at a Final Cut show and said that he was
>touring North America and stoping in Toronto and Chicago; but, not
>Detroit :(  If anyone hears more please post as EN my favorite old-time
>true-blue purely Industrial unit !  Grindingly, TechnoThor (bmyers@well.
>sf.ca.us) 11.11.92


Whatever is the case, the Neubauten don't have much time,
cause by the end of November Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (thus including
Blixa) are heading for their Japan tour, and then in December they are
going to Australia.

maurice


PS: Nick Cave/Birthday Party live tapes/rarities wanted for trade!
-- 
  +---------------------+ 
  |    Maurice Maes     | 
  | maes@prl.philips.nl | 
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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF THE BEACH)
Subject: Re: FLA's The Blade
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:35:52 GMT

ohm@Siri.Unit.NO (Ole Hermann Melby) writes:

>Keywords: 

>I bougth front line assemblys "the blade" on friday ( 8 track CD ).

HEY!!  the one i have is only a four track cd.  what the @$!#@%&@*@!?!?!?!?!?

>Is "the blade" (the song) lifted from another album, 
>or is this an (mini-) album on its own?

a more "industrial" version is on the "Tactical Neural Implant" cd.

-- 
+Primus-RedHotChiliPeppers-RollinsBand-TheChurch-TheHouseOfLove-U2-Pixies-Curve+
			JAY "IDig" PARDEE
					v-ball@uiuc.edu
+-KMFDM-NineInchNails-Ministry-FrontLineAssembly-MeatBeatManifesto-SkinnyPuppy-+
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From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Foetus and Ministry lyrics wanted !
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:51:04 GMT

hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:
: (THE GREAT MENTOR) writes:
: > I am looking for lyrics of Ministry and Foetus!
: > Are there any ftp-sites they are on?
: The lyrics to almost every Foetus song come with their respective albums  
: (except Deaf and Ache which I can't vouch for, and the Nail _CD_ doesn't come
: with them, but the LP does -- and, of course, not Rife or Male, but that's no
: big surprise or problem. Butterfly Potion is an exception, I guess--that comes
: with no lyrics).  Which ones were you looking for?

"Deaf" and "Ache" both came with lyrics, and my import version of the
"Nail" CD came with the lyrics in the booklet also.


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From: cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck Hazlett)
Subject: Re: Ministry concert in Amsterdam
Keywords: ministry
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:32:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.215123.29378@fwi.uva.nl> heederik@fwi.uva.nl (Robbert Heederik) writes:
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Last friday, Ministry and Helmet played in the Paradiso in Amsterdam, The
>Netherlands. The place was totally sold out and people were offering 100
>guilders for the 20 guilder ticket. 
>I didn't like Helmet that much, but they were OK.
>Then Ministry showed up. The backside of the stage was coverered by three
>videoscreens on which videos were played and photos were displayed.
>Ministry was G.R.E.A.T.!  They played the following songs:
>
>N.W.O.
>The Missing
>Deity
>Hero
>Psalm 69
>TV song		(Somebody from Revco did the vocals ??)
>Just One Fix
>So What
>Scarecrow
>Thieves 	(Al introduced this song with "This is a slow one....THIEVES!")
>Stigmata
>Burning Inside
>
>Noticed that "Jesus built my hotrod" wasn't played?? Strange.
>
>Robbert.
>
>-- 


"Jesus..." wasn't played because Gibby Haynes of the Butthole Surfers
was the vocalist during the recordings _and_ live on the Lollapalooza
tour (since the Surfers were also on the L. tour).  I imagine that
he's not going to follow Ministry around just so that they can play
"Jesus..." on tour.

-Chuck   
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (KOTSINES  THOMAS ANT)
Subject: Re: Surely, "With Sympathy" is NOT Ministry !
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:13:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.161428.22612@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jvc0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Carrier) writes:
>>Decided to buy/listen to everthing Uncle Alien ever did, get it ?
>>So, last night looked at "With Sympathy" and noted
>> (a) poppy titles
>> (b) short playing times
>> (c) short CD
>> (c) picture of two Androgens
>>Became concerned that whole CD was a typo
>>Decided to listen.
>>Almost died of laughter !
>>Imagine a guy with skulls around his neck singing "Thieves" now at
>>LaLa was once an Androgen !
>>Strange world, eh ?
>>Thank the Gods or the power of hard drugs !
>>
>>My Uncle Al was once an Androgen; but, don't worry:  He's cool now
>>that he's done all those drugs ! 696969696696969696969696969696969
>
>too bad that's ministry's best album, except for maybe twitch.  glad to know
>drugs make the man {in your honest opinion.
>-- 

I was going to say the same thing...

[/]
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Vaginia Engina, any more?
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:00:08 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory


  How made the album Vaginia Enginia? Is there any thing else available?

kris
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