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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:28:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <1eebl5INNeol@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:

>BTW, I doubt that only a _handful_ of people realize that *denigrate*
>comes from the same Latin root, *niger*, as have *Negro* and *Nigeria*. 

Nobody in my office did.

-- 
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a government.
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
From: v140pxgt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel B Case)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Snapple and anti-abortionism
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov17.015955.5496@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell) writes...
>I understand that the topic of my question has been
>the subject of a substantial thread here, so I first
>apologize for being late to the cakewalk and asking after
>something some of you may be tired of hearing about
>(relevant messages don't seem to still be on my news
>host) ...
> 
>I've heard it said that the founders of Snapple are
>politically somewhat to the right of Attila, and among
>other things have been hevy contributors to anti-abortion
>groups; and that, further, there was a boycott against
>them on the part of pro-choice groups.
> 
>Is this true?  Is there a way to find out more about
>the specific causes that the Snapple folks have helped
>out?  Who called the boycott?  How, if at all, is this
>affected by aa leveraged buyout of Snapple I've heard
>about this year?
> 
>Thanks for any responses; my (previous Snapple-loving)
>friends were chagrined to hear this, but want to get a
>little more corroboration.
> 
>Frank
>frank@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov

I don't know-I've heard this and I put a note up on Prodigy about it, in the 
then site  for most of the abortion discussions, Parenting Philosophy in 
Homelife. Nobody could really say anything other than that they heard something
or other, and that they advertise heavily on Rush Limbaugh. But that doesn't 
prove anything.

						Dan Case
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From: ACTIV-L via Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.native
Subject: ACTIVISM: Supply Drive for Native Americans
Followup-To: alt.activism.d,alt.native
Date: 17 Nov 1992 01:39:57 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

[From EcoNet gen.nativeamt Conference]
[Also Posted to misc.activism.progressive (by Somebody Else)]

================================================================
=> From: peacenet@igc.org
=> Subject: Supply Drive for Native Americans

=> From: aberks@igc.apc.org in igc:gen.nativeam
=> Subject: "LOS ANGELES SUPPLY DRIVE"

Supplies are now being collected for distribution to the Lakota
in Pine Ridge and outlying areas of South Dakota, the Navaho of
Big Mountain and outlying areas of Arizona and Native American
families and single mothers living in the Los Angeles area.

Supplies needed include: rice, coffee, tea, salt, beans, white
flour, onion, potatoes, lemons, oranges, cooking oil, powdered
milk, canned foods, dried packaged food, wool and weaving
supplies, livestock food and supplies, construction materials,
communications equipment, blankets, tools, wool and cotton
clothing in good condition, children and baby clothes, toys and
other play items.

If you have any of these supplies or money to donate, please
call Maurice at (310) 827-3618 or respond to aberks@igc.org.
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From: coan@griffin (Brian M Coan)
Subject: "Wehrmacht Weizaecker"
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:14:16 GMT

In response to someone's question, the phrase "Wehrmacht Weizaecker"
comes from the fact that Germany's president was once the head of
the Wehrmacht.

OK, kids, can you say "the continuity of national-socialism in the
present-day German capitalist state"?? I knew you could.

:)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: Civil Forfeiture under Clinton
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:09:48 GMT

Can we have some speculation here about how/if federal civil
forfeiture statutes will change under Clinton's presidency,
be it through executive orders, congress legislation or a
future, more liberal, Supreme Court finding the current civil
forfeiture laws unconstitutional?
From: Andrew Lang <lang@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:19 PST
Subject: Re: "Wehrmacht Weizaecker"
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov16.031416.15785@uvm.edu:1678060129:cdp:1296500439:000:748
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!lang    Nov 17 18:19:00 1992


What are we talking about here?  Richard von Weizsaecker, the German
president, was never "head of the Wehrmacht."  I'm not sure about
his present age, but he must have been in his thirties at the end
of World War II.  Weizsaecker is liked by all political parties in
Germany--including the liberals and social democrats--and has fre-
quently irritated the right-wing of his own party, the CDU, by
speaking forcefully (before the end of the Cold War) in favor of
disarmament and East-West rapprochement.  He began to denounce 
racist violence in Germany long before the Kohl government took any
steps against the neo-nazis.

Weizsaecker's brother, a physicist, is also one of Germany's best-
known pacifists and disarmament campaigners.

Andy Lang

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
From: parrish@ecn.purdue.edu (Stephen L. Parrish)
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:53:19 GMT

In article <1e972eINN1da@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU>, jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov12.171025.2502@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov12.072718.22982@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
|> >
|> >>No, only the Republifascists think we *need* a government telling us
|> >>what values our families should have.
|> >
|> >No, we Republifascists have normal families, we like our definition just 
|> >fine, thank you.  You liberoanarchists have your own thing, you want to 
|> >call it a family and thereby denegrade the meaning of our families.
|>                               ^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> It is ironic that you can't use the word you meant, namely denigrate,
|> which means *to blacken*.  You show your ignorance and racism at the
|> same time this way!
|> 
|> -Nick
|> 
|> 

Thank-you Dr. Webster...

Now please draw from his reply the racism you perceive.  I await.

-- 
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Purdue University            |   with the chains of the constitution"
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Newsgroups: alt.activism
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: What conservatives really mean when they talk about "original intent"
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:57:14 GMT
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              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In this post, Karl is either incredibly stupid or deliberately
misleading.  Take your choice...

In article <Bxr2wB.L49.2@cs.cmu.edu> kck+@cs.cmu.edu (Karl Kluge) writes:
>> Subject: Bork is a good judge? (NOT!) (was Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
>> From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)

>> In article <1992Nov13.171749.25117@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) writes:

>> From what I've read of it, Bork strikes me as a strict literalist
>> who 1) ignores admendment #9, and b) has a view of government such that
>> the gov't has the moral power to do ANYTHING unless it is prohibited by
>> doing so by the Constitution.

>Exactly, which is why the way people like Bork use the term "Framer's
>intent" is so obscene. For a prime example of psuedo-"Framer's intent" in
>all its glory, try reading Chief Justic Rehnquist's dissent in Planned
>Parenthood vs. Casey:

>"We have held that a liberty interest protected under the Due Process Clause
>of the Fourteenth Amendment will be deemed fundamental if it is -implicit in
>the concept of ordered liberty.-  Palko v. Connecticut, 302 U. S. 319, 325
>(1937).  Three years earlier, in Snyder v. Massachusetts, 291 U. S. 97
>(1934), we referred to a -principle of justice so rooted in the traditions
>and conscience of our people as to be ranked as fundamental.-  Id., at 105;
>see also Michael H.  v. Gerald D., 491 U. S. 110, 122 (1989) (plurality
>opinion) (citing the language from Snyder).  These expressions are
>admittedly not precise, but our decisions implementing this notion of
>-fundamental- rights do not afford any more elaborate basis on which to base
>such a classification."

>It is difficult to imagine a right more clearly "implicit in the concept of
>ordered liberty" that the right to have sex with a consenting adult partner
>of one's choice, yet by appealing to the status of sodomy laws through
>history it was decided (in Bowers vs. Hardwick, a case the Chief Justice
>cites as precedent later in his dissent) that this was not the case.

Of course.  Note the phrase "principle of justice so rooted in the
traditions and conscience of our people as to be ranked as
fundamental."  Like it or not, the right to lynch homosexuals is much
more protected under this standard than the right to engage in
homosexual sex.  



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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: davidson@ccrs.emr.ca (David Davidson)
Subject: Where can I find Chomsky?
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:24:08 GMT

I was wondering if there was a news group or list server where I could 
find transcripts of Chomsky's speeches and other works by him.

Could you please post me directly as I do not regularly monitor this 
group. 

Please accept my thanks in advance.
David

davidson@ccrs.emr.ca
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Subject: Re: U.S. Government Defends Ku Klux Klan
Organization: Memes-R-Us
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:31:02 GMT
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aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:

>Phil Scarr appears to ridicule LaRouche, et. al.'s approach to the
>question of the Pike Statue on the grounds that it alleges a Masonic
>conspiracy. I note that nowhere does he speak to the substantive
>question of whether the allegations are true.

I noticed that, too.

Quite the halfwit, isn't he ?


-- richard

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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams)
Subject: Re: A proposal for reproductive freedom for BOTH sexes
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:57:02 GMT

>> 1.5) Provides a declaration that in the event that a woman does not want
>>      to keep a child, but also does not wish to abort for any reason, may
>>      place said child up for adoption at birth.  The male parent shall 
>>      have the right of first refusal to adopt a child produced in this 
>>      circumstance.
>
>
>Also good. I like the idea of giving the other spouse the right of first 
>refusal, and I feel it is only fair to give this right to both sexes.

	Minor point, but the language of the paragraph is a bit bothersome.
Why should a child's natural parent have to "adopt" the child? The -mother-
doesn't have to go through such a process if the father "want's out," so why
should the father.

	The paragraph should read:

 1.5) Provides a declaration that in the event that a woman who does not 
      want to keep a child, but also does not wish to abort for any 
      reason, may place said child up for adoption at birth PROVIDED 
      that the male parent shall have also relinquished his custodial
      rights with respect to the child. Should the male parent choose 
      to exercise said rights, he shall immediately be awarded sole
      custody upon the relinquishment of rights by the female parent.

	If equality is to be implied by such a document, there is an
implication inherent in that goal that the parents are equal in =all= areas,
including initial custody.

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From: bg055@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stewart Rowe)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: WANTED: Paper information...
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:24:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Suggest you start by asking the American Paper Institute for the needed
background information, for example:
  How much non-chlorine-bleached pulp is available on the world market
and how does this amount relate to total US pulp usage in these grades?
  How many such pulp mills are under construction in North America and 
what are their planned capacities, and their expected start-up dates?
 Similar questions about the availability etc of recycled fiber,
again in the appropriate grades, should come to mind. (I assume you
do not want the state to print its archive documents on recycled
newsprint or corrugating medium).
  Suggest you go to the library and bone up a bit on the industry.
Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia of Chemical Technology is a good starting
place.
  Get my point? It's good to push for more recycling etc., but it's
also wise to keep practical considerations in mind, or the
industry lobbyists will wipe up the floor with you!
 -Stewart Rowe usr2210a@tso.uc.edu  srowe@igc.org
 
P.S. The American Paper Institute has headquarters in NYC and a 
gov't affairs office in DC --look them up in the phone books.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: avery@ecosys.drdr.virginia.edu (Daniel Avery)
Subject: WANTED: Paper information...
Organization: Division of Recoverable and Disposable Resources, U.Va.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:04:09 GMT

We need some help!
Here at the University of Virginia, Student Environmental Action is
starting a campaign to get a bill passed in the 1993 Virginia General
Assembly session to force state agencies to procure non-chlorine bleached
and high post-consumer waste content paper.  We hope to make this a 
statewide student effort to shake things up here in the Old Dominion.

What we need is information.

We need information on any other states which have proposed similar
purchasing legislation, how the bills fared, who opposed them, who
supported them, and the texts of the bills.

We also need easy to digest information about the hazards of chlorine
bleaching and the state of the recycled paper market today--something
soundbite-able enough to catch the attention of busy state legislators.

Any help will be acknowledged and TREMENDOUSLY appreciated.

Dan Avery
University of Virginia
avery@ecosys.drdr.virginia.edu

p.s. if you have something you can send through normal mail, let me
know and we can hopefully pay you for postage!

A
know and we can hopefully pay you for postage!
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman)
Subject: Re: Bankruptcy 1995 (part 1)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:44:11 GMT

pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce) writes:


[... stuff deleted...]

>have lived too well," most Americans respond as modern-day Tontos:
>"What you mean 'we,' rich man?" Their belts are plenty tight.

>This disparity explains the public's skepticism regarding frequent
>elite calls for "shared sacrifice." It hasn't been shared so far, so
>why now? Looking at the agenda of the new consensus, this doubt appears
>merited. It calls for higher taxes on "consumption," lower taxes on
>"investment." Left unmentioned is that there's no way to do this
>without exacerbating the nation's growing income inequality.

I too am suspicious of these calls for "shared sacrifice." Historically,
these calls for sacrifice have always meant sacrifice on the part of
the naive, the trusting, the poor, and the powerless. It's like 
Leona Helmsly said "Only the little people pay taxes." If you continue
to follow my series "Bankruptcy 1995" (which I hope you do), I point
out that it is about time that the pendulum of "sacrifice" swung the
other way; it is about time that there is a sacrifice of "Corporate
Welfare," "Welfare for the rich," and Defense Department pork. 

However, I hope that after reading my series you will become better
aware that there *is* a huge problem of waste, mismanagement, and
debt in our government.


Brian Redman
(bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
"Ah yes, Armageddon. I remember it well."


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From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Subject: Re: Political newsgroups on Usenet
Followup-To: alt.aeffle.und.pferdle,de.talk.jokes
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:57:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.064950.22653@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>
>In any case, it has many interesting articles in it.  In case you
>might be interested in other political topics and other newsgroups,
>here's a grep of some political newsgroups (choice of groups biased by
>my personal interests) in the October 1992 statistics:
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmmm. :-) :-)  (s.b.)

>egrep 'politics|activism|libert|censorship|eff|acad-freedom|privacy'
>
>  23  68000  2120   67%   498  2901.9    48%  0.06   4.4%  alt.activism 
>...

>1131   8300   259   35%    17    30.4     0%  0.00   0.5%  alt.aeffle.und.pferdle 
>1171   7800   243   68%    10    41.1     0%  0.01   0.5%  soc.politics 
>...

Interesting. I see that 'grep' is not really strong AI, and that the
string 'eff' is indeed contained in 'alt.aeffle.und.pferdle', but
finding this one in a list of political groups makes me ROTFL anyway...

:-)

olaf
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From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:07:18 GMT
Subject: Re: A proposal for reproductive freedom for BOTH sexes
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.activism

In alt.activism, kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:

> In alt.activism, karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes:

> > What I envision is a law which provides all of the following:

> > 1)	Provides a declaration of a woman's right to choose up to the 12th
> > 	week of pregnancy whether or not to have an abortion -- as a federal
> > 	law.  Not on privacy grounds -- but on ownership of one's body.

> Sounds good to me. My understanding is that polls show the pro-choice position
> has a little more popular support than pro-life. With more women politicians,
> I expect this position will have more support in political circles.

> I've read of a similar reproductive freedom bill in Washington D.C. already.
> Perhaps we could offer to support that if it includes our changes. The first
> step would be to determine the bill's sponsors. Any Rep or Senator should 
> have admin assistants who can find out.

The existing bill is called the "Freedom of Choice Act". It has been introduced
in both chambers of Congress. Patricia Schroeder's (D-Colo.) office should
be able to identify the main sponsors of the bill, who should in turn help
us get on board with our suggestions. If you call her office, ask them to
mail a copy of the history of the "Freedom of Choice Act" to you.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Re: "Wehrmacht Weizaecker"
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:06:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.145228.5637@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (St
upendous Man) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.031416.15785@uvm.edu>, coan@griffin (Brian M Coan) writes
:
>> In response to someone's question, the phrase "Wehrmacht Weizaecker"
>> comes from the fact that Germany's president was once the head of
>> the Wehrmacht.
>

Surely you mean his father.  The War, after all, ended 47 years ago.

nm
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:27:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.171025.2502@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.072718.22982@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:

>>No, only the Republifascists think we *need* a government telling us
>>what values our families should have.

>No, we Republifascists have normal families, we like our definition just 
>fine, thank you.  You liberoanarchists have your own thing, you want to 
>call it a family and thereby denegrade the meaning of our families.

Your family must be really lame if something I do, totally unrelated to
them, can possibly damage it.  (denigrate, by the way.)

Your definition of family is not "normal" at all.  At different times,
in different cultures, "normal families" are very different.   What's so 
sacred about a nuclear family? 

-- 
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