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From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Signs
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:28:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.015900.4634@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> robinsonm@clvax1.cl.msu.edu writes:
>This has probably been chewed up in this newsgroup a bit before, 
>but as I was out recruiting Andorians for the blood circuit, I 
>missed it.  My kwestshun is:
>
>   Is there any kind of a signal, that cannot be mistaken for 
>friendship, that lets one know that it just might be OK if you 
>took the plunge with someone.  My readership of signs is way 
>heinous simply because I am now quite uncertain what is meant to 
>be just touchy feely friendly and what is meant to be "if you 
>don't get over here soon....."
>
>   This will give some folks something to do over the holidays.

Hi Mike!
How about these signs:

	a) you can't put your foot down w/o tripping over her.....
	b) she "ambushes" you as you walk past her room, and
	   bodyslams you on the bed.....
	   (this actually happenned to one of my homeboys)
	c) you go to give her a peck-on-the-cheek good-night kiss,
	   when she turns her face so that her lips meet yours,
	   and she gives you a kiss that makes your knees buckle....
	   (this one has happenned to me :-))
	d) she asks if you have an SO, and looks really sad/dejected
	   when you answer "yes"......
	   (this is assuming that you have an SO that you are ready
	    to part with, for whatever reason)
	e) if she _tells_ you that she wants to "rock your world"

Keith R
>
>Merry Christmas and all that stuff....
>* Robinson
>
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>| English Department       | your creamy center."                             |
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: forgiveness
From: sandarss@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:57:50 GMT

In article <adwright.724353386@vincent1.iastate.edu>,
adwright@iastate.edu writes:
> Infidelity is not abuse? Has it ever happened to you? Were you ever cheated
> on by someone who was everything to you? Depression, mood swings, weight 
> loss, lonliness, inability to concentrate at work. Anybody out there
> that can relate to that? No, my friend, infidelity can destroy, it can
> be one of the worst forms of abuse. I would rather have both arms broken,
> the healing process would be far quicker.

Thanks, I REALLY needed to hear that!
George S
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: Let's Make the World a More Loving Place
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:03:16 GMT

petitc@nuge113.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:

>  Ok.  It's time for the Christmas season once again.  We're all supposed to be
>a bit kinder to our fellow man (or woman).  But, why does it have to stop
>there?

A noble sentiment, but one predicated upon the unfortunately mistaken
notion that people are actually kinder to one another during the
Christmas Season than other times---the problem is, there's nothing
to stop because nothing was really started in the first place....

>  I mean, what's wrong with friendly hugs, and affectionate touching (not
>romantic, just between friends and so on).  We all like to be touched, since
>it is an expression of deepest fondness and affection.  So, why are we so
>afraid of it?  It seems that the only place where _any_ touching is permitted,
>especially for guys, is within the context of a romantic relationship.

I cannot agree with the statement that "we all like to be touched"---
there are many people out there (myself included) who do not care
to be touched, especially unsolicited physical contact.  Besides,
we live in a society in which you can be accused of the most out-
rageous crimes for touching someone if they simply *feel* that
you were up to something.  Better to be safe than sorry...

>  Why do affection and fondness have to be so limited?  Love multiplies---if
>you give a lot out, you get a lot more back than you gave out.  I mean,
>really, why can't a guy hug someone without it being considered a sexual
>overture (or sexual perversion)?

Because that's *not* the way we were brought up---hugging is not a
"guy thing" and simply "isn't done".  It looks funny, and we're 
social enough creatures to be aware of how it will look to other
folks.  Sad, you say?  Oh, but true.

>  Maybe it's just a dream---I know that for all my hoping and wishing, I'll
>still consider affection primarily reserved for relationships, simply because
>so many people react so badly to the simplest, most innocent touch.  But,
>what do all of you think about this?

What *you* may see as "innocent" may jolly well not seem that way to
another person; how are we (I am using the "editorial 'we'") to know
what your motivations are?  No, the problem is that we can't divine
your intentions---and until we can, we want our "personal space"
kept inviolate.  It's a largely American thing, I think---I have
noticed Europeans aren't bothered by proximity and casual contact,
but it bugs the bejeebers out of me when they get right in my face,
or start putting a hand on my arm.  I can't help the way I feel, and
they can't help doing what they do---both for the same reason: that's
how our respective cultures raised us to be.


T.R. Stone
From: pezzillo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Amy J. Pezzillo)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Just my $0.02
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:04:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

<stuff deleted about the ending of an LDR>

Steven,

I honestly do hope that you're able to come to terms with things after
you talk with her, but please bear in mind that there is the
possibility that she is feeling harrassed by you right now.  If she
hasn't given you explicit permission to come visit her, please do
yourself a favor and explain to her that you'll leave her alone after
this and aren't trying to talk her back into going out with you again.

I had a female friend in a similar situation, and she called the cops
on the guy who kept trying to see her.  She finally got a restraining
order.

I hope it doesn't come to that, but please prepare yourself for the
possibility.

ajp
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Truth/Psychiatrists and homosexuality.
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:54:21 GMT
Reply-To: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH


In a previous article, martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) says:

>In article <1992Dec10.202543.23000@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
>   freier@mail.physics.utah.edu (rodney james freier) writes: 
>
>
>   All of you straight people out there, I want you to imagine what life
>   would be like for you if you knew that 90% of the people you might be
>   romantically interested in would not only have no interest in you,
>   but might actually do violence to you if they found out you were
>   interested in them.  Not a pleasant thought?  Didn't think so.
>
>I mostly don't disagree with you, but I do wonder on what basis you
>think that this is markedly different from the experience of hetero
>people? 

I swore i wasn't going to get into this thread..but.... *sigh*
Charlie, how many women do you know would "actually do violence to you
if they found out you were interested in them"??

that, i think...it the VERY marked difference.....that homosexuals
often discover that the people they are interested in would reject them
at such a basic level...

with you, at least..it is not a matter that you are male that women
wouldn't be interested in you romantically...it is probably looks
or character or personality...

(DISCLAIMER:  this is assuming a woman would reject Charlie.  I am
sure he is a wonderful guy and has no reason to be rejected by
the majority of women out there... ;)

Cheers,

Dawn
-- 

     It is impossible to repent of love.
     The sin of love does not exist...........
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: Need romantic way to propose
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:23:19 GMT


[deleted Gleeep's...(I mean Dave's) ..exceedingly rational
 proposal methods...]


Two important clarification questions:


About #4 (the magic marker trick):


1)...if you couldn't get into the house, would it be permissible
 to have a helpful sibling do the actual writing?


and B)  ..what colour is most effective?  Black, or perhaps their
        favourite colour?   Those scented ones might be nice too 


=)

-- 
 ...Some day you will travel all the way from Vermont just
    to get your eyes chewed off by a dog....
 
      -- Deep Thoughts with Gleeep on A.R.
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert)
Subject: Re: Puter Confesses!
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:02:01 GMT

*delurk*

psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow) foils the rescue plan
> deviass@ecf.toronto.edu exorcises:
> > puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude) possesses Santa's body....
> > >  deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert) asks a question of the Dark
> > > Overlord...
> > > 
> > > 		[Puter=Satan]
> > > 
> > > 
> [Evil Stuff Deleted]
> > What! No official excorcist! Well, I'll just have to improvise. If this
> > does not do the job, I don't know what will.
> > 
> > *takes out violin*
> > 
> > > Have you been good, or BAD this year?
> > >
> > 
> > Of coarse I've been good. But I can't say the same for my violin playing!>;-)
> > *puts on ear plugs*
> > *starts "playing"*
> > 
> 
> That only works in Georgia and only if you can get him
>  to make a bet with you (cf. C.McDaniels).
> 

I'm not familiar with the C. McDaniels story. But come to think of it,
Puter would enjoy the screams of a cat (c.f. violin).

Humpt. I'm stumped. Any suggestions?

*enlurk*
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/-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------\
| Robert N. Deviasse            |"The things that are not easily attained,    |
| EMAIL: g2devi@cdf.utoronto.ca |    are the things we cherish the most."     |
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 11:25:25 MST
From: <IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Did anyone see this before ?

I saw it, but was afraid to reply!  I guess I would be a little
apprehensive in dating an-almost-unmarried-man.  I believe that
everyone needs a certain amount of time to get over the other
person.  Even in a divorce.  Time to recapture your individualism
and recoupe.  Just a thought.
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: evorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Ed Vorst)
Subject: What a great group!!!!!
	I must admit that to have such a fantastic group of hug and
	I do have one question though:  What is RFA? Remember there are no
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:37:34 GMT


	
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	( evorst@umanitoba.ccu.ca ) 
 
  



Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: Da Prez iz grateful...
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:45:36 GMT

puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude) shares: 

>*wink* back. So tell me, are ya gonna just ship yourself down here
>Fed XXX?

*snicker*  Not this year, Puter.  I'm too busy...uh.....decking the halls..
;)


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            President, Romantic Fire Association
  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: What the?
Keywords: smut
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:17:29 GMT

In article <92Dec10.102648.31260@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.014847.24314@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>In article <dementia.723851836@cwis> dementia@cwis.unomaha.edu (Diane Atkinson) writes:
>>>rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) prevaricates:
>>>
>>>>introduce myself.  And what ever anyone says about me and the
>>>>ARCFamily.... it ain't true!  No charge of incest has *ever* been
>>>>proved!  Right Lis?, LF?  HotDi?
>>>
>>>Ha.  *snort*  Yeah, right.  Never.  *Never*-ever.
>>>('Course, should prolly change that "charge" to "charges")
>>
>>Well, ok, the charge has been brought up many times, and in many
>>differint guises.  Still, not *one* has been proved!  (by the way Di,
>>if you don't write to your BigBro soon, you'll be sorry!!)
>
>And I'm still waiting for my 'slave' *grins evilly* to tell me
>all about his little adventures... Oh Ripppppp :)

Oh, gawd!  I don't think there is enough time to tell it all in one
sitting!  Let me just say this about that.  I started in this group
in Aug of '92 I popped over when we all left alt.romance, but that is
a different story.

If I remember rightly, the ARCFamily started shortly there after with
me and 'Chelle.  The Adrian joined in, then HotDi, Misch, Lis and
Garrett, and finally Gypsy.  Some of the adventures of the Family are
chronicled in the 'Dukes of ARCLand' where me and Adrian take off in
the Websters for high spirited fun and adventure!  There, and before,
several charges of incest were made, but like I said, never proved...
:-)  There are several other mis-adventures of the Family, but they
are too numerous to mention.....

>>>You prolly shouldn't sit too close to him, either, MA.
>>
>>Well, she has to get close to me *sometimes*, after all, she *is* my
>>Mistress... >;-)
>
>I'm glad you remembered Rip... now come over here... I have a
>chore for you to do >:)

Oh good!  Another chance to serve!

Rip crawls to his Mistress, mindless of the broken glass and barbed
wire laying in his path.....

>MA grins mischievously
>
>Snugs Rip :)

And gentle *hugs* back!

rip(Slave to MA)
-- 
Grab reality by the balls, and squeeze...

                                        Tempus
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:39:50 GMT

deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert) writes:

>So, if anyone wants fresh crisp Ontario snow, help yourself. There's more than
>enough to go around! Too bad I can't just set up an ftp site for the snow or
>post it :-/

Hey - what a concept!!
As much snow as you like by anon ftp!!
Give the man a prize!!

Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
***********************************************************
Ignore the from line: I'm really at rwm@stan.xx.swin.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: roth@sitter.ips.id.ethz.ch (Martin Roth)
Subject: Re: For a Sweetie-Pie ... Re: Full moon warning!
Organization: ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:21:36 GMT

epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary, the Sexretary) answers ARC-LIT's post:
>WOW!!  You lucky woman You!!  First a week-end of parties, forever to
>be remembered by the EvilCamera *grin* (You didn't really think I was
>gonna let you forget that did ya??)
>
>And now you get REAL ROSES!!!  I'm jealous...and happy for ya!

Oh, don't be jealous...  Here's one for you

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 [This picture was published without kind permission by the
 original publisher, Ender]

>Sounds like Martin is really a great guy!!
Thanks, Mary. I need one of these ego-pushes every now and then..

>And now we know when your birthday is, expect massive greetings next
>year!!
Yes, people, mark the December 8, 1993 in your schedule to send a
happy birthday wish to REGAN1016@BESTSD.SDSU.EDU (ARC-LIT)!! Don't
forget it!

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email: roth@ips.id.ethz.ch   |                             get to sleep."
finger: roth@sitter.ethz.ch  |                             -Fran Lebowitz
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Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert)
Subject: Re: Welcomes all around...
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:49:01 GMT

*delurk*

diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) welcomes all to ARC
> For all the new people - and for all the
> returning people - I extend my welcomes.
> I have been reading a.r.c, and doing some
> responding, but have not been able to 
> welcome new folks personally as I would
> have liked to.  Between some personal 
> concerns, ThanksGiving, getting ready for
> the TygerBoink, getting SICK for the TygerBoink,
> and trying to get into the Xmas mood - I've 
> been kind of side-tracked.
> 
> So - to all you newcomers, Purrs of Welcome...
> 
> CatWoman
> 

This is starting to look serious.
Everyone seems to be getting sick in this group.
First Julie, then Lis, then you, then me (I should have known that
the snow fall in Toronto was not for free), and who knows how many other
people.

This appears to be a classic case of an internet virus. If I didn't
know better, I'd think that Morris was up to his old tricks again.
But this being ARC, it would probably be Morris the Cat *snicker*

Welcome back CatWoman.

Take care
    Robert

*enlurk*
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/-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------\
| Robert N. Deviasse            |"The things that are not easily attained,    |
| EMAIL: g2devi@cdf.utoronto.ca |    are the things we cherish the most."     |
+-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: jason@grinch.txt.com (Jason in the Hood)
Subject: Re: Full moon and lonely :(
Organization: Textural Software, San Jose, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:20:26 GMT


Someone, somewhere wrote:
> Hello fellow ARCers!  Has anyone taken a peek
> at the moon lately?  It is gorgeous.  There
> is a full lunar eclipse coming up here in a
> few nights.  A nice romantic way to spend the
> a night out with that special someone.
> Definatly the way I am going to spend it.  For
> all you people out there cringing when you
> think of how cold it is - the whole point is
> to cuddle the night away.  Take a bottle of
> wine and MANY blankets.  Have fun.  *wink*

Naaa...   I saw that one.  Was beautiful, I'll admit... Didn't
have anyone to snuggle, but then... it was so hot a night, that
I considered sleeping on deck anyway.  Sheeshh... must have been
at least 75 degrees out there... nice breeze, though.

   Had the roof of my cabin open, and the moonlight was really
great!  At first, I wondered what happened to the moon... then
realized it was eclipsing..  Sure was neato to watch, sitting
out there on the bay...  not a cloud in the sky, light breeze..
gentle rocking motion of the boat...  Only thing missing was
someone to snuggle.  Sigh.  Maybe next year..

Ciao!
   Jasonzied - backfromsailingtheBVIsandmissingit

-- 
|Official Wandering Archer of the RFA
|
|UUCP  jason@grinch.txt.com                 Who wills, Can.
|VOICE (408) 321-6509                         Who tries, Does.
|LOCAL Hey, Jason!                              Who loves, Lives.          o_.
|Disclaimer:  Not me! I didn't do *THAT!*                                 <|
|Local Disclaimer:  I'm not here!                   A. McCaffrey           4
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 19 Dec 1992 10:11:06 CST
From: <U60703@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Did anyone see this before ?

In article <1992Dec14.225654.16530@brtph560.bnr.ca>, kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey
P920) says:
>
>like I'm out of my league or anything.  I'm a young (29) and fairly attractive
>guy with a good body.  I'm educated, and intelligent.  But I'm not quite
>divorced.  She said that doesn't matter but I wonder.
>
>Whaddya think?
>
Hmmm.. sounds like some key words to me there...Not Quite Divorced.....

Maybe I can help you gain a little perspective here....

Me a woman...and....One of the first rules of dating is NEVER go out with a
man who is still married...NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS......

It may be just a technicality....just on paper ....over a long time ago...etc..
It is not that the person (you in this case) is nessecarily being insincere
about his affections or end of the marriage...the fact remains that there
is6OCsituation that needs to be finalized...resolved...and until that is done
through the proper channels you are not/can not be ready to move forward
into a new partnership....esp if this woman is marriage minded....this is
my opinion....but a lot of us women feel that way...

In talking w/friends if one of us happens to mention/say "I met this really
great guy....etc.....but he is still married legally, but he says......"...
Instantly red flags go up...and we reply to each other"Hey!..wait..hold on.
a minute here.".....It DOES make a difference....

Your story was cute and your endeavors very romantic....but IMHO you have
got to close one chapter before writing another....

Hope I could give you a little insight :)

Carole
From: wmcgillivray@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Dark Knight)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Da Prez iz grateful...
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:18:13 GMT
Reply-To: wmcgillivray@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

In article <BzGv2D.KCu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:
>
>AHHHHHHHHhhahhhaaaahaaaahaaaaaa... and not with boughs of
>holly...*smirk*
>
And just whom, pray tell, is this Holly?  Inquiring minds would
like to know?

DK
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary)
Subject: Re: Ariel's legs...
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:53:11 GMT

In article <92351.155840AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET> Lisa Mae <AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>And just incase you thought I forgot.......
>*tickle* *tickle* *tickle*
>*laughter*
>Ariel (Lisa Mae)

Yes, this brings back memories...the TickleContest (Shame on you,
Minstrel!).  But it was fun Saturday nite...

Mary/GEMR
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat