From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: What is real racism? (Re: Was:Why rish asians should vote Republican)
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:33:17 GMT
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology

In article <BxKqLJ.Ivv@acsu.buffalo.edu> dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei) writes:
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>First of all I must ask you again to not use any names here..
>I prefer to be called "NW" or simply "dtwei"
>As for my comments, I did not _attack_ anybody, I only stated some
>facts concerning a few important issues. No where in my original post
>did I say anything of the sort "all [ethnic group] are assholes/whatever"

  You implied that Blacks need quotas to get ahead.  You stated that
  Blacks want to declare race war on "white slave owners".  You seem
  to know what goes on in the minds of Black people when you don't
  have a clue.

  You acted like Hispanics are only interested in getting everyone else
  in this country to speak Spanish instead of learning English.
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>An attack on the Chinese culture is an attack on the Chinese people
>(or anyone of Chinese ancestry)

  Rather, an Attack on Ms. Danielle T Wei is an attack on Chinese people
  (or anyone of Chinese ancestry).
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>As I've said before, I have much respect for African-Americans as a whole,
>but I do believe they discriminate against Chinese, can you disprove this?

  Can you prove this?  How have they discriminated against Chinese?
  Did they write the Chinese Exclusion Act?  And how can you have any
  respect for African-Americans when you categorize them as rioters
  and looters (and state that the NAACP endorses the rioters and looters).

  You have a very stereotypical view of African Americans.  I think
  you've been watching too much TV.  You probably have the Willie
  Horton commercial on video and play it in your sleep.
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>I consider myself a blend of Chinese and American cultures, and personally
>I feel American culture is more racist than Chinese culture. As for the riot

  You don't know Chinese culture very well, Ms. Danielle T Wei.
  Chinese culture is very ethnocentric.  White people in Chinese villages
  will often get chased by village kids yelling, "yang gwe tze" (ocean
  ghosts).  People of mixed race ancestry were frowned upon.  I know
  because my grand-aunts are half British and half Chinese.  My mom's
  cousins were 1/4 British, 3/4 Chinese and still got taunted and made
  to feel inferior (growing up in China).  My step-great-grandmother
  (the Englishwoman) was still called "yang ren" even though she long
  ago renounced her British citizenship and spoke only Chinese and
  considered herself Chinese, with a son in the Chinese Air Force.

  Black people are called "hei gwe" and Indians are called "ah san".
  All derogatory names.

  I won't say which culture is more racist (American or Chinese), just
  pointing out that Chinese culture is not pure as the driven snow on
  that respect either.
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>>   (2)  The skin of the applicants must not be too dark.
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>This is bullshit. Everybody in China has the same skin color,

  Have you BEEN to China?  Give me a break.  My grandfather was so
  dark that when we went to Disneyland, a pair of African-American kids
  ran up to him calling him Grandpa!  His hair was very short so they
  couldn't tell.  My grandmother is very pale, on the other hand.
  Chinese people come in all shades.  Both my grandparents are Hakka
  and in the same ethnic group.  My grandfather came from the Gwangtung
  region, and my grandmother from the Yangtze region.
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