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From: vmccoy@NWU.EDU (Vince McCoy)
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Subject: Re: Library guides
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:10:17 GMT
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In Message Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:27:16 LCL,
  Bob Jones <BJONES@UNF1VM.BITNET> writes:

>fyi.  Is this something we can/should do, or at least look into?
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Using a gateway from LUIS (provided by the Florida Center for Library
>Automation), the UNF Library supports a CMS account which automatically
>loads GOPHER (an Internet node-to-node client/server system).  Through
>GOPHER, library users can access, view and print library guides,
>bibliographic instruction materials, and other campus
>documents.  GOPHER at UNF is maintained as a campus system, not just
>library services.  It is my understanding that GOPHER is available by
>anonymous FTP from boombox.micro.umn.edu in the /pub/gopher directory.
>
>Our CMS client version of GOPHER links (via the INTERNET) to our UNIX
>GOPHER server, where the files are actually maintained (more space).
>UNF users are able to access GOPHER from their own CMS account,
>through UNIX accounts, and through our LUIS gateway.  If you have
>GOPHER installed on your machine (CMS or UNIX), the following command
>will link you to our documents:
>        GOPHER corvair.unf.edu
>
>Bob Jones   (904) 646-2552 : SUNCOM 861-2552 : FAX 904-646-2719
>Head, Public Services Division, and Library Systems Coordinator
>University of North Florida Library              P.O. Box 17605
>4567 St. Johns Bluff Road, South         Jacksonville, FL 32216
>BITNET: BJONES@UNF1VM  ::   INTERNET: bjones@unf1vm.cis.unf.edu

There is a VM GOPHER client in the works that will allow staff using NUACVM
to access the campus GOPHER system.  The campus GOPHER has a Library section
to which we could post all kinds of documents.  All is needed is someone to
take the responsibility for doing it.  If you folks can provide me with the
text in machine readable form I can find out how to get it onto GOPHER.  For
the most part we have the systems in place on campus, the Library has simply
not taken advantage of them so far.

Getting to GOPHER from Public terminals is of course another question that
needs discussion by LUIS review committee, ISDO NOTIS programmers, etc.  For
staff with NuNET connections or email accounts it is no problem.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:48:19 CDT
From:         KRANDAL@NUACVM.BITNET
Subject:      OPAC multi-screen displays

Rob Kairis talks about a problem with MHLD fields being truncated in OPAC
display if they get split between screens and if the data pushed to the
second screen contain more than 13 characters.  This news of course does
not make me happy.  (Just one more thing to look out for when we convert
to MARC holdings here...)

This makes me think about BIBLIOGRAPHIC fields split between screens.
I was never happy with fields getting split between screens in the old
OPAC, but I learned to live with it.  However, in the new OPAC we also
have labels before the data, and the label at the top of the screen
makes one believe that the data immediately following the label are the
BEGINNING of the field.  What is a library user to think when seeing at
the top of a screen:  "NOTE:     1955-1970."  Does that make any sense
to anyone?

My personal opinion is that fields should NEVER be split between screens;
or, if they absolutely must be, then there should be some indication of the
split; for example, "NOTE:      (cont'd from previous screen:) 1955-1970."

How do others feel about fields split between screens?  Am I alone in
objecting to this?  Has anyone ever brought it up to NSI?

Kevin M. Randall
Head, Serials Cataloging Section
Northwestern University Library
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:06:57 EDT
From:         Karl-Heinz Boewe <MCLK-HWB@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: zero hits
              30 Sep 1992 11:49:00 EDT from <ADLB001@MVS.MCGILL.CA>

Calling up the review (R) without the edit (ED) command will not change your
search; all editing (inserting, erasing, blanking, etc.) has to be done on
the command line (i.e., the bottom of the screen); then--after entering your
revised search--you should get results based on the edited version.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:36:00 EDT
From:         Ron Johnston <ADLB001@MVS.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      tcp/ip access to NOTIS
Comments: To: Notis Discussion <NOTIS-L@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU>

In response to requests for information about accessing NOTIS via TCP/IP:

NET3270 is a product of McGill University.  It runs on a LAN server as a method
to provide mainframe access to workstations.  It provides the user with the
ability to run multiple sessions and toggle among them.  Full ALA character set
support is available for users of NOTIS, both staff mode and OPAC.

One server can support dozens of users.  Access to the mainframe is thru a 3174
or similar control unit.  The product was conceived as a way to economically
provide high speed access to mainframe systems for users of the campus LANs with
connections to the fibre backbone.  Our fibre runs TCP/IP; most of our LANs run
ethernet.

For more information contact the developer/maintainer, Pierre Goyette at
PIERRE@VM1.MCGILL.CA or 514-398-7354.

Ron Johnston  McGill University Libraries  Montreal Quebec

voice:        (514) 398-4797          |    S/390  ES/9000-320
fax:          (514) 398-7356          |    MVS/XA  CICS 1.7
internet:     ADLB001@MVS.MCGILL.CA   |    NOTIS 4.7
bitnet:       ADLB001@MCGILLVS        |    GTO 2-Utlas
telnet:       132.206.27.5            |    GTO 3-Bibliofile
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:12:52 EDT
From:         Lydia Pettis <LRP@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: MARC Holdings conversion problem...continuation lines

We would love to get your changes for continuation lines! Yea!!!

It is the last thing we are working on. Send it right along!

Thanks a lot.

Lydia
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:15:43 -0400
From:         AISTERWI@EKU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Passport 2.001 and GTO 3.0

Bob,
We type in XPO and hit F11. The LGTB transaction on CICS then abends
with an ASRA and causes a STORAGE VIOLATION.  So I am working with
NOTIS/GTO people to find the cause.

What does your function key do differently than XPO and F11?

Thanks. Earl Terwilliger AISTERWI@EKU.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:38:05 CDT
From:         Cindy Goldstein <LB04ILF@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU>
Subject:      Circ status in 5.0 OPAC

I hope this isn't an incredibly stupid question, and I hope the answer
isn't "you need to have converted to MHLD".  So here goes.  We just
brought up 5.0 in OPAC only and the circ status of our circulating
serials is incomplete and misleading in it.  It worked great in 4.6.1,
but only the info that is in the enum/chron field of the item record is
appearing in the OPAC.  That's a BIG problem cause the issue number and
/or parts of a volume info are in the midspine field of the item record.
The 5.0 Implementation Manuals do not state anywhere that I can find
where the item identification information used in the OPAC circ status
comes from.  I assumed it came from the item record itself - and hope-
fully from BOTH the enum/chron and midspine fields.  As a medical
library, we circulate all of our serials and it's impossible to tell
what's where with the current display we are getting.  If one issue is
checked out, it looks as if the entire volume is unavailable.  And if
all issues have been charged to the bindery, it looks as if we have as
many copies of the entire volume as there are issues.  NOT GOOD.
I hope we have simply overlooked something simple.  Please, someone tell
me that's it - and how do we fix it?  We haven't loaded 5.0.1 yet so
maybe the fix is there, but I don't honestly remember anything about
this particular problem.  Any and all help gratefully accepted.  Thanks.
Cindy Goldstein
Tulane University Medical Center Library
(504) 587-7317
LB04iLf@music.tcs.tulane.edu
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:19:47 CDT
From:         SMUIR@UA1VM.BITNET
Subject:      KWB date ranges and truncation

I was helping a staff member design a search that would retrieve
all maps in our collection published between 1500 and 1750 and
ran into a problem.  The search string I tried was

K=P.FMT and 150?-1750.DT1.

The result was 0 entries found... Search limited to first 100
terms generated by truncation.  (Note: I have since been able to
get the results need by searching a decade at a time.)

I contacted NOTIS to find out why this was happening.  After
talking to them, my understanding is that in working with the
date range, NOTISearch first searches for all occurrences of the
numbers 1500 through 1750 and then processes that dataset against
the qualifier DT1.  Because of the NOTISearch process limits, the
search ends up with 0 entries found, although there are actually
hits.

It seems to me that this is a serious design flaw in the search
engine.  I think that the search engine should only search the
range I specified 1500-1750 in the DT1 field, and not search for
all instances of the number range in the bibliographic record.

Am I misunderstanding how this works or is this a problem for
other sites?  Was this the way the BRS search engine worked?

Thank you.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:42:22 CDT
From:         Harriet L Coleman 312-996-2479 <U35049@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Chicago weather

For today and the next three:
highs range from 58-75 and lows from 35-55.  At the low end there
is supposed to be a chance of freezing temps.
Jackets may or may not be needed---
 and it anyone's guess what next week will bring.

Layered clothing is your best best.  Someone here will update next
week.
      Harriet Coleman
      U of I at Chicago
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:50:15 EST
From:         Alan Alexander-Manifold <ALANAM@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: call numbers from copy holdings statements

The copying of the call number from one copy statement to another is a
convention.  It is not actually stored multiple times.  The software
says that if there is no call number, it looks back for the most recent
copy statement of the same type "L", "D", "O", "S", etc. and pretends
that the call number is the same.  It saves space in the record, and
allows for quick changes of call numbers (not that you have much call
to do that).
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:42:10 CST
From:         "Michael J. Stephens" <VB7R0007@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: FYCL screen
              30 Sep 1992 10:17:59 CST from <BNICOL@LIB.AUBURN.EDU>

I am also usig the Clarkson TCPIP TN3270 package to access the mainframe.
I have found the same problem that Beth reports.  This the first thing,
other than no ALA characters, that I have found not to work with Clarkson.


Michael J. Stephens, Tech1
Sr. Systems Analyst II           *  Phone:    (214) 692-3453
Computer & Information Services  *  FAX:      (214) 692-3449
Southern Methodist University    *  Bitnet:   vb7r0007@smuvm1
Dallas, Tx. 75275-0262           *  Internet: vb7r0007@vm.cis.smu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:16:08 ECT
From:         Frank Mols <FMOLS@BINGVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      OPAC Searching

In preparation for a workshop, I have been analyzing opac statistics
produced by the LB720 report.  During the academic year 91/92, slightly
more than 25% of author and 45% of subject searches resulted in "0 hits".
Obviously, typos and various other erroneous key strokes account for
some of those "0 hits".  Since our database has not been processed for
authority control, does that explain these high numbers?  Have other sites
with authority control monitored these numbers, and how do their percentages
compare with ours?  The cost of authority control is substantial and
a hard sell in these tight budget times, but, if I could predict a
significant decrease in these numbers, funding this worthwhile processing
might be easier.

Frank Mols
Assistant Director for Technical Services
Bartle Library
State University of New York at Binghamton
Vestal Pkwy. East
P.O. Box 6012
Binghamton, NY 13902-6012
VOICE: (607) 777-2368
FAX: (607) 777-4848
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From: CADNOTTS@UIAMVS.BITNET (University of Iowa Libraries)
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Subject: Re: Request Info from all possible
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:32:00 GMT
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> Thanks for taking time to read and respond if possible, I have been
> requested by the Library to survey as many Notis sites as possible
> as to their use of ALA typeset. If you can complete the survey and
> return it to me, I will be glad to post the results. Thnaks again.
>
> 1) Institution     ___University of Iowa___________________________
> 2) Your Position   ___Manager of Library Automation________________
> 3) Do you use ALA character set (Y.N) ___yes______
>
>    If NO, thanks, that is it. If YES, just a few more questions. These
>    for the most part are non binding ballpark numbers.
>
> 4) What percent of holdings affected  ___35-45%____________________
> 5) What percent of patrons affected  ______??______________________
> 6) Any areas other than OPAC and Cataloging affected  ___Acq_______
>
> Will post the summary around the end of the month. Thanks once more.

Donna Hirst
Manager of Library Automation
University of Iowa Libraries
Iowa City, Iowa  52242
319/335-5031
cadhirts@uiamvs.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:18:59 EDT
From:         Mike Garcia <MTG@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: FYCL screen
              30 Sep 1992 10:17:59 CST from <BNICOL@LIB.AUBURN.EDU>

Here at Cornell we had trouble with TN3270 also.

Check to see if NULLS (x'00') are being translated to spaces (x'40').
This gave us some trouble.  This is sometimes called 'enhanced' or
'extended' null processing.

Mike G.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:52:38 -0500
From:         Barbara <BAUGHMAN@UTDALLAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Individual Patron Group Changes
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              2 Oct 1992 08:14:25 -0500 from <pelak@PILOT.NJIN.NET>

Irene -

Are you including records for more than one patron group in the input
to a single run of LB510?  That won't work.  The NOTIS program assumes
that you have records for only one patron group, and all the records for
that patron group are included.  The only way to expire the student
subrecord is by running LB510 with all the student records, and this
patron no longer appearing with the records (assuming you have INSW=4
in LB530TBL for the student patron group).  There is no way to expire a student
subrecord while updating the personnel patron group.  You may need to schedule
your patron updates to run LB510 consecutively for each patron group
in order to expire the subrecords of patrons no longer in the patron
group.

Of course, the expiration date will be the run date.  If you run the
job in the wee hours of the morning, then you will have a full day
of operations when the old subrecord is still valid.  I have asked NOTIS
to change LB510 so the expiration date is the day before the run date,
but NSI considers this to be an enhancement request (which no one else
seems to want).  Adding a DATE JCL card will reset the system date
for the job run.  (unfortunately, I keep forgetting to change the date,
and this eliminates regular automatic batch scheduling because the
JCL has to change every time it's submitted).

Best wishes.

Barbara Baughman                *********************************
TECH1                           *                               *
University of Texas at Dallas   *   First right, then rewrite!  *
(214) 690-2157                  *                               *
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:56:18 EST
From:         Tom Norman <normant@GVSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Global Changes in 5.0.2
Comments: To: notis-l@tcsvm.bitnet

          At Grand Valley State University we have Global Heading
          Changes working in version 5.0.2.

          For the most part the Global Heading Changes job ran without
          any problems (I may have modified the JCL slightly to meet
          Grand Valley Shop standards).

          The MAJOR exception to this was the UPSI switch settings.
          These settings do NOT work as documented.  After lengthy
          discussions (and a 32 page fax) with NOTIS, Inc. we
          discovered that the settings should be '11000000' (I forget
          what we were orginally trying).  Once the UPSI settings were
          modified the job performed as promised.

          This job is run on an 'on request' basis.  When the head of
          Cataloging Services wants to process change requests, she
          has Computer Operations run the job that night.  I haven't
          heard of any problems with this arrangement.

          I would be more than happy to help anyone having problems
          with this job -- I was got very frustrated trying to make
          this thing work.

          Tom Norman
          Systems Analyst
          Grand Valley State University

          Phone:         (616) 895-2289
          Internet:      normant@gvsu.edu
          Fax:           (616) 895-3889
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:27:12 CST
From:         "Michael J. Stephens" <VB7R0007@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      BSR Formal Announcement

  The Third Annual Bum Steer Roast will be held in the Windsor Lounge
House at 7pm, Friday, Oct. 9.  As last year there will be a $5 charge
at the door to cover the costs of the awards and the munchies.  There
will be a cash bar for those who wish to imbibe.  We will be awarding
the a coveted Bum Steer each to the technical and library service
representatives who receive the most votes/nominations from us users.
Tabulations and scores are totally subjective and are being kept by my
ever faithful compadre and fiancee, Leigh Williams.  If you wish to
argue about the final results you can see me!  In addition, we once
again have the Road Kill Special Achievement Award for the outstanding
person from any part of NOTIS Systems, Inc.  This year we will also be
giving out door prizes.  You must be present to win, and you must also have
your ticket.  We will also be giving Rusty a special door pass so he can
go to the can without paying to re-enter.  As this is a non-profit
operation, any leftover funds will be contributed to next year's party.
(NOT the honeymoon!)  We also have other activities planned.  Please note
that the BSR is open to all NUGM attendees and NSI personnel.
Companionship, commiseration, and fun are the operative words for the BSR.

Michael J. Stephens, Tech1
Sr. Systems Analyst II           *  Phone:    (214) 692-3453
Computer & Information Services  *  FAX:      (214) 692-3449
Southern Methodist University    *  Bitnet:   vb7r0007@smuvm1
Dallas, Tx. 75275-0262           *  Internet: vb7r0007@vm.cis.smu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:28:36 CDT
From:         Fred Gulden <LB.FHG@ISUMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: QuickReports

>Does anyone know the price for QuickReports? I left a voice mail message
>but have not heard from NSI. We are a new site without much SAS support and
>therefore are extremely interested in the package. I would appreciate any
>information you have. Thanks.

According to an order form NSI sent me a while ago ...

General Reports:

  Standard ARL Statistics          $5,000
  Programmer/Housekeeping Reports  $3,500
  Item/Collection Management       $6,000

Module Reports:

  Acquisitions/Fund Accounting     $6,000
  Circulation                      $6,000
  Cataloging                       $5,000
  Serials                          $4,000
  OPAC                             $5,000
  Interface                        $5,000

Total                              $45,500

Special Price of Complete Package  $35,000

And according to the September 1992 NOTISes:

15% Discount if ordered before October 31, 1992.  Payment deferred until
July 1993.  (I think that makes it about $29,750.)

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*  34 Parks Library                *     PHONE: (515) 294-2445         *
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:35:02 -0500
From:         "Colegate V. Spinks" <ZCVS@ADM.ANGELO.EDU>
Subject:      Request Info from all possible
Comments: To: Notis Forum <Notis-L@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>

Thanks for taking time to read and respond if possible, I have been
requested by the Library to survey as many Notis sites as possible
as to their use of ALA typeset. If you can complete the survey and
return it to me, I will be glad to post the results. Thnaks again.

1) Institution     ________________________________________________
2) Your Position   ________________________________________________
3) Do you use ALA character set (Y.N) ____________

   If NO, thanks, that is it. If YES, just a few more questions. These
   for the most part are non binding ballpark numbers.

4) What percent of holdings affected  _____________________________
5) What percent of patrons affected  ______________________________
6) Any areas other than OPAC and Cataloging affected  _____________

Will post the summary around the end of the month. Thanks once more.
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