HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (MITCHELL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schedule Strengths, Again
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:48:45 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) wrote:
}
}and Rice's 2 wins against Iowa State (3-7-1, 6th in Big 8) and
}Northwestern (3-8, 9th in Big Ten) and LOSS to one of the worst
}Tulane teams in history (1-10).

Oops, make that a win vs. Tulane and a loss to Iowa State.

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings and Predictions for 9/12/92
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:58:01 GMT

In article <5260@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc13.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:

   In article <1992Sep10.065311.20765@newstand.syr.edu>, demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
   |> MARSEE DIVISION I-A COLLEGE FOOTBALL COMPUTER RANKINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 09/05/92
   |>                                                                              
   |>        (Power ratings in parenthesis - ties broken by defensive rating)      
   |>                                                                              
   |>   1. WASHINGTON     (829)  37. LOUISIANA TECH (605)  73. BALL STATE     (508)
   |>   2. OKLAHOMA       (804)  38. AKRON          (604)  74. MISSOURI       (506)
   |>   3. ARIZONA        (792)  39. ILLINOIS       (603)  75. MINNESOTA      (505)
   |>   4. NOTRE DAME     (784)  40. AIR FORCE      (603)  76. TEXAS TECH     (504)
   |>   5. CALIFORNIA     (774)  41. NEW MEXICO     (595)  77. WESTERN MICH   (503)
   |>   6. SYRACUSE       (750)  42. WYOMING        (592)  78. MARYLAND       (501)
   |>   7. TENNESSEE      (746)  43. TULSA          (592)  79. TEXAS          (499)
   |>   8. NEBRASKA       (742)  44. HOUSTON        (590)  80. EAST CAROLINA  (496)
   |>   9. FLORIDA STATE  (741)  45. ARKANSAS       (587)  81. ARMY           (495)
   |>  10. TOLEDO         (740)  46. BOWLING GREEN  (587)  82. TULANE         (492)
   |>  11. KANSAS         (734)  47. CINCINNATI     (584)  83. TEMPLE         (484)
   |>  12. PITTSBURGH     (731)  48. HAWAII         (584)  84. UTAH           (479)
   |>  13. MIAMI          (724)  49. LOUISIANA ST   (582)  85. DUKE           (478)

   I'm sorry, but how in the HELL did Arizona place third on your poll?!?!?!

Its not a poll.

   And how did U. Miami place 13th, behind teams like Toledo, and Kansas?
   I think you should go back and make sure you do not have a bug in your 
   program.

   ~ds4, Amazed that anyone would post those rankings.


I'm amazed at how much shit some people throw at guys like Darryl and Schmit
who post their power rankings.  I think its interesting, and a lot of other
people seem to as well.  These guys put in the effort because they enjoy it, and
they share their results with us.  And some clown always comes by to point
out the 'obvious' mistakes.  If you can do better why don't you?

Bill
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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Wanted:  Source for all I-A games and stats.
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:43:42 GMT

In article <4psnga_@lynx.unm.edu>, jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
> Can anyone recommend a good publication (weekly?) that prints ALL
> I-A scores and stats for a given week??
> 
> Thanks in advance!!

Every Tuesday USA Today has the scores for every 1-A team.

-- 
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From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (The Pickle)
Subject: Another HS update - Tulsa Edison SHATTERS RECORD
Keywords: tulsa edison high school
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:13:42 GMT

On Friday, Tulsa (OK) Thomas Edison crushed Nathan Hale by a record-setting
62-35. The total score is a Tulsa city record, and the 62 is ranked as one 
of the highest point totals in large-school history. (8-man and 6-man teams
have been known to score 70 points in a game in OK.) 

Three city records fell - total offense with over 700 yards, total rushing
offense with 600+ yards, and the point total.

One big state record was shattered - 140 yards in penalties by Edison!

(I can't remember the exact numbers - I'm in Colo. and my brother communicated
them to me. The game. BTW, took over THREE hours to play.)

Edison HS grad. '90,
From: carley1560@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: RE:HEISMAN FAVORITE
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:56:08 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I AGREE WITH THE COMMENT ABOUT HEISMAN POTENTIAL AND NOTRE DAME. I THINK THAT
THE FLORIDA GATORS' SHANE MATHEWS IS PURE POTENTIAL. HE LEADS THE SEC IN YDS
FOR HIS CAREER AND IN SATURDAY'S OPENER HE THREW FOR ALMOST 350 YDS AND 4 TD'S
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Robert Smith/OSU's crushing of Louisville
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:01:09 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Sep8.003107.1984@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:

> Mark Atchison writes:
> 
> >Also, did you notice that on some passing downs, we actually used a straight
> >drop for once, instead of rhetorical play-action on every pass.  
> 
> This one always got me.  What kind of an idiot defender is going to bite on a 
> fake handoff on third and 15?
>      - Pat

  The one that got burned on the *real* handoff on 3rd and 15 that went for 17
yards and a 1st down, of course! :-)

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller
Texas A&M University '89 and '91


semper fi,

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From: ds4@soc13.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Unabashed 'Cane Woof-o-Rama ;)
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:17:09 GMT

In article <stricher-090992183613@stayman.ocean.fsu.edu>, stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
|> Zarathustra wrote:
|> 
|> > offensive line. Should be corrected against the FAMU game next week. 
|> 
|> Just hope your 'canes don't fall asleep or get caught looking ahead,
|> or FAMU could put a scare into you. I don't think FAMU will win, but
|> stranger things have happened.
|> 
|> James

Like what have you seen that would be stranger than this????, has your dog learned
to talk?
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Robert Smith/OSU's crushing of Louisville
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:32:25 GMT
	<7SEP199210422491@zeus.tamu.edu>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <7SEP199210422491@zeus.tamu.edu> mcr0193@zeus.tamu.edu (ROBERTSON, MATTHEW C) writes:
}} 
}}     Did I read the subject header right? OSU's *crushing* of Louisiville???
}} Maybe this is just my southwestern ignorance but do people from Ohio and the
}} Mid-west in general always call 1 point victories in which the game was decided
}} in the last seconds of the game, a *crushing* ?? Interesting.

It took a few days, but someone finally took the bait...

From Webster:

sar.casm \'sa:r-.kaz-*m\ \sa:r-'kas-tik\ \-ti-k(*-)le-\ n [F sarcasme, fr.
   LL sarcasmos, fr. Gk sarkasmos, fr. sarka]zein to tear flesh, bite the lips
   in rage, sneer, fr. sark-, sarx flesh; akin to Av thwar*s to cut 1: a
   cutting, hostile, or contemptuous remark : GIBE 2: the use of caustic or
   ironic language - sar.cas.tic aj

Note: "the use of...ironic language."

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                    ect. is meaningless; etc. == et cetera

        "...the probability of a puttering nutcase slaving alone in his
         workshop actually developing fundamentally new technology is
                     practically nil..."  -- John DeArmond
From: vestrada@aludra.usc.edu (Victor Estrada)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Prop 48/Cal-USC
Date: 7 Sep 1992 20:48:05 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <ladektINN50u@alnitak.usc.edu> dnoble@alnitak.usc.edu (Douglas Noble) writes:
>Cal has a policy against prop 48 now.  They admitted two in
>the history of the program.  One is succeeding, one did not.
>Cal is an outstanding academic university, one or two players
>on the football team notwithstanding.  It is clear that Stanford
>attracts many serious academics, but I do not think you would
>want to compare the three lowest academic admits to the sports 
>program at Stanford with the three lowest at Cal.  I suspect
>there would be very little difference.

Just to add a few things about Cal Athletics/Academics.  I was very much against
Cal letting in Prop 48 athletes, but I am not anymore.  Here's why:

If a university can take an "academically-challenged" (or whatever they're
calling it this week) athlete, and truly turn him into a student e.g. Russell
White, that makes that university an institution of higher LEARNING in the
truest sense.  Doesn't John Thompson routinely take Prop 48 BB players at
Georgetown (an outstanding university) and graduate them? Isn't that what being
a teacher is all about?  

The only problem with this is if the university doesn't admit "regular" students
with learning disabilities.  Then that would be hypocritical.  I have friends
who were admitted to Cal under "special circumstances" and have graduated.
That's what it's all about: Teaching/Learning.

One more thing: as a Cal undergrad who is a grad student at USC (OK, so maybe I
didn't get in to Cal or Stanford :) I have one thing to say to all you I-hate- 
Cal/I-hate-USC types: cut the crap!!  This is Football not academics. Its OK to
talk about lowly FB teams, but there's no reason to get personal.  For anyone
who cares to know, I am VERY satisfied with my educational experience at BOTH
universities.

Victor Estrada
GO BEARS!!!
Beat the crap out of EVERYONE (I don't play favorites)

PS
Being both a CAL and USC student, I hate UCLA more than anyone on the net!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!(Wicked laughter)

-- 
   				Victor Estrada  (vestrada@usc.edu) 

"Death to the message of the Ku Klux Klan"--Red Hot Chili Peppers
From: clammemb@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (matt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Purdue vs Cal stats (Purdue Exponent)
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:27:31 GMT
Organization: Purdue University



  - "They can take down the goal posts every week as long as we win"
                    - Purdue Excutive Vice President Fred Ford 
                      as quoted by interim Athletic Director John Hicks

                      PURDUE vs. CALIFORNIA game statistics

                                        California          Purdue
First Downs                                 20                16
Rushing                                      6                 7
Passing                                     14                 7
Penalty                                      0                 2
Rushing attempts                            33                41
Rushing yards                              122               178
Fumbles - lost                             3-1               1-0
Passing                                  31/46/3           10/17/0
 Yards                                     283               144
Time of Possession                        24:57             35:03
Sacks                                        0                 2
Third Down Conversions                    5/13               4/12

Stats may not be very accurate.
Quoted from Purdue Exponent.
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From: RFARR@NOVELL.COM (Rich Farr)
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU Predictions
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:52:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.145405.1@cc.uvcc.edu> maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
>Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU Predictions
>Date: 10 Sep 92 14:54:05 -0700
>In article <RFARR.4.0@>, RFARR@ (Rich Farr) writes:

>BYU 36 SDSU 35 (two point conversion with no time on the clock!!!)

>I got the feeling that BYU only showed what it needed to win last week.
>There was alot of conservative play calling on both offense and defense.

That's what the rumor's around Provo have been saying.  I hope you're right, 
or BYU is in big trouble.  We'll see in a couple of hours.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:23:47 GMT



>>I can't see Cal winning by less than 20 at Purdue.  Purdue is better
>>than they have been, but that's like saying George Bush is getting
>>better on environmental policy.
>>
>>My prediction:  Cal 31 Purdue 10
>>
>>sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
>
>  ...and that coming from a Boilermaker! :-)
>
...and it has anti-woof written all over it...  :-)

cmuck
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings and Predictions for 9/12/92
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:49:47 GMT

ds4@soc13.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:


>In article <BILLMS.92Sep11165801@z.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:

>|> I'm amazed at how much shit some people throw at guys like Darryl and Schmit
>|> who post their power rankings.  I think its interesting, and a lot of other
>|> people seem to as well.  These guys put in the effort because they enjoy it, and
>|> they share their results with us.  And some clown always comes by to point
>|> out the 'obvious' mistakes.  If you can do better why don't you?
>|> 
>|> Bill

>	Poor Bill, did someone critize one of your posts and your feelings
>got hurt....ahhhh.  Ok, now that I got that childish outburst out, let me say
>one thing, this would be a very dull newsgroup if people are not allowed to
>comment on other peoples post.....actually it would be pretty stupid.  It
>seems to me as if you are saying that anyone can say whatever they want and no
>one can comment on it.....like if I say my grandmother plays football 
>better than Univeristy of Michigan, you would not beable to respond because I 
>took the time to post.  
>	And for this "If you can do better why don't you?" thing, anyone can
>write a program to say which is the best team, by criteria such as; which team
>has scored the most points, or which team has the ugliest looking offensive line.
>I am not sure what these guys are doing....I would like to see the algorithms for
>these 'computer polls'.  If anyone wants to send me or post theirs then I would
>at least see that it is a legit thing and not some fantasy.

I choose to keep my algorithm private but will tell you that it is based
only on the score and location of the games.

I also think that my algorithm proves it legitimacy in how it performs in
picking winners and picking against the spread.  My rankings went
16-11-2 against the spread and 21-7-1 picking winners in the first week
and 27-15-0 against the spread and 26-14-2 picking winners this weekend.

Kevin
schmke@cco.caltech.edu
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: t.u. is leaving the SWC? Info anyone?
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 16:05:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.155144.19328@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep9.151047.9677@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
|> > Just heard that t.u is leaving the SWC for the Big 10. Anyone hear this one?
|> 
|> Hey Randy,
|> 
|> It's time to list Texas in your Big 10 standings.
|> 
|> (IT'S A JOKE FOLKS.)

And Mackovick can now resume his streak in games coaching against Michigan.

|> "Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)

-- 

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From: dpettit@javelin.sim.es.com (Daina Pettit)
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:26:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.191902.5600@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.140124.26025@unislc.uucp> mls@unislc.uucp (Michael Simons) writes:
>>
>>You obviously don't read Sports Illustrated. A week or so ago they had
>>an article on how BYU was Americas most hated team.
>
>what's BYU?
>
>>	Mike Simons
>>	Unisys -- Salt Lake
>
>Njan
Isn't BYU that team that played Colorado twice in the last 10-15 years and
beat them both times?  :^)


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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: How does the tie result change ND and Michigan ranking?
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:19:53 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1234@u.s.edu> Myself writes:

   How do you guys think the ranking ND and Michigan after tie result?

   My predication is  ND ==> 4 and Michigan ==> 5 . What do you think?

I was hoping Mich would get the benefit of the doubt (i.e. benefit relative
to ND) for making the tie away against a higher rated opponent.  Seems like
thats what happened.  I believe Mich/ND are 5-6 and 6-7 in the polls today,
if I remember right.

What do people think about the line?  Don't think it would move at all if
there were a rematch, those two teams looked pretty evenly matched.  

Bill
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From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:23:55 GMT
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	<1992Sep10.152347.7840@hou.amoco.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Sep10.152347.7840@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
}} 
}} >>My prediction:  Cal 31 Purdue 10
}} >
}} >  ...and that coming from a Boilermaker! :-)
}} >
}} ...and it has anti-woof written all over it...  :-)
}} 
}} cmuck

I wish.  I honestly can't see Purdue doing well in this game:  Hunter
is out still (starting QB), there have been massive injuries (the
linebackers will all be frosh and sophs), etc.  Sure, we've got a few
good players (Zgnonina and Young on defense, Calloway and a bunch of
slightly above average backs on offense).  That's more than balanced
by Russell White and a tough Cal defense.

I stand by my 31-10 prediction.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
       "If you loose your arrow, you're likely to lose it in the weeds,"
                       was often heard in days of yore.

        "...the probability of a puttering nutcase slaving alone in his
         workshop actually developing fundamentally new technology is
                     practically nil..."  -- John DeArmond
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: Myself
Subject: How does the tie result change ND and Michigan ranking?
Organization: University of Sports
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:09:48 GMT

How do you guys think the ranking ND and Michigan after tie result?

My predication is  ND ==> 4 and Michigan ==> 5 . What do you think?

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble)
Subject: Re: Weekly top 25
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:34:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.035956.11117@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito) writes:
>
>      -----=====< The A.P. Top 25 >=====-----
>17   19  California    1 0 0  WON v. San Jose St., 46-16  at Kansas, 9/24
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nope.  Next game is 9/12 @ Purdue.  At least that's what my tickets
say :-)

Brian


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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Hawks apologize
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:22:09 GMT

In article 20590@news.iastate.edu, jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
>|
>|Both Hayden Fry and Iowa Hawkeye captian Bret Bielema have apologized to Iowa
>|State Coach Jim Walden for Bielema's rude remarks to Walden after Saturday's
>|Iowa-Iowa State game. 
>|-- 
>|Joe Huber 
>|(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
>|Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
>|Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."

What did he say?

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