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From: bmasel@igc.apc.org (Ben Masel)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: HEMPing CLINTON/GORE in Madison
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:41:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500390:000:939
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!bmasel    Oct  1 18:41:00 1992


We took a hemp parade to the Clinton/Gore appearance at the
Wisconsin State Capitol today. Handed out almost 1,000 copies of
the flyer I posted to this group yesterday. Lots of signs. Thom
put "HEMP for VICTORY" in clinton's face before he left. "1 ACRE
OF HEMP = 20 BARRELS OF OIL" on local ABC & CBS stations. Watch
for it tonite on the National? One reporter told me there had been
a HEMP presence at about half the appearances since the Democrat
Convention. Mentioned a town meeting in Virginia where Gore
answered a hemp question "We're against drugs." I had a tangle
with Secret Service agents who told me i could'nt stand by
enterance to one of the press busses handing out leaflets. He said
"We own the streets." "I pay taxes here. I'm exercising my First
Amendment Rights!" His partner grabbed my ponytail, tried to throw
me to the ground. Shook him off. Madison police intervened, let me
continue leafleting til bus left.  Whew.
From: bg055@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stewart Rowe)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: The Decline of America: "Strong Family Values"
Date: 1 Oct 1992 21:16:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


At a political meeting in North Carolina recently, according to the
NY Times, a Democrat was trying to make hay out of Bush's veto
of the family leave bill. A citizen in the back of the room piped up,
"Family values is about teaching your children to love God.
It's got nothing to do with economics."
 
This suggests that liberals and progressives are off the mark on
this matter. My question is, if this citizen is correct, what business
is it of the government to get involved in "family values"?
Do the Republicans really mean the publicm(especially the Bible Belt
Christian adherents) to believe that they would take action to
help/force the teaching of this kind of family values? 
 
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I have a nightmare of the Pat Robertson
"Christian" version of the Ayatollahs' Iran being imposed on us 
little b y little.
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From: cassidy@cps.msu.edu (John J Cassidy)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:01:39 GMT
Reply-To: cassidy@cps.msu.edu (John J Cassidy)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: cassidy@dolphin.cps.msu.edu

In article <14083.2acc9ef4@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.174628.18196@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>> Bush wasn't even in office when alot of the US help went to Iraq.
>> 
>> I'm not saying it was a good thng, but think about what was going on
>> during the 80's--Hussien or the Ayatollah(sp)--it would have been great
>> to not deal with either one of them but it was the lesser of two evils
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>
>Let's see, Bush became VP under Reagan in 1980 right? Lessee, the Iran-Iraq
>war began in October 1980. Nope, Bush wasn't in office (and clearly didn't
>know anything about it either :).
>
>Republiclone slime. Eat shit and die.
>
>-Garrett
>
	Gosh!  A real honest-to-God idiot of the Democrat kind!
( Sorry, I don't usually flame ... ) What number of this year?  92
right?  What was the number of the year 12 years ago.  ( 92 - 12 = 80 )
So it's 1980.  1980 is not the time when electees come into power, its
the time that they run for office.  Same way that 92 is.  Neat how that
works out, idn't it?  : )

	John J Cassidy		cassidy@cps.msu.edu
	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>
>
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: SEIZING THE MEDIA: Networker Congr
Date: 27 Sep 1992 05:52:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I for one appreciate seenig this notice here, and I would encourage
those active in such guerilla networking  activities to make alt.activism
and usenet generally part of your world.

-Steve
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: billp@contel0.com (William H. Papazian - Data Engineering)
Subject: Buffalo Broncos will lose!
Organization: IPC Information Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:27:23 GMT

I will be quite the lucky fan on October 4, 1992.  I
have 4 seats for the Buffalo/Miami game -- 48 yard line,
first row (section C1).  I will thoroughly enjoy watching the
Dolphins CRUSH the Buffalo Broncos (renamed due to their
SuperBowl ineptness).  

All this talk of the Bills going undefeated is a joke. Let's
see, they played three really bad teams and they looked 
pretty good.  Big deal.  I will guarantee that the Buffalo
Broncos will lose to the Dolphins -- my prediction is below:

Miami:   31 ( Keith Jackson will have at least one TD)
Buffalo: 24 ( they will score a cheap touchdown at the end
		to make the final score look close)

> evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans) writes:
>
>  Bill, the next time you're at Rich Stadium come by section C5 and
> look us up. I'll buy you a beer and Tegger will throw confetti 
> all over you.

Hey, why don't you guys come over to section C1 during the Miami game,
and I'll buy you two a beer (I'll be the guy crazy enough to wear a 
Washington Redskins hat and sweatshirt). But wait until Miami is 
leading by two touchdowns (like last year) -- the beer will help calm 
you both down.

>You see, the whole point of this story is that, yes the Tegger is a
>big jerk but he is an integral part of the atmosphere at Rich Stadium.
 
Hey, I only called him a jerk.  You are the one that said he is a
"big jerk."

If you want to see some REAL football fans, try to get a ticket to
a Redskins game at RFK.  Make it a Cowboys game or a Giants game --
Miami/Buffalo can't compare to those rivalries.

> Subject: Re: TEGGER who? (Jim Kelly loves this guy!)

Great.  You, TEGGER, and Kelly can all get together at Kelly's house
after the game and complain about the officiating (because Buffalo
will have lost). Just like the SuperBowl -- "If they had called that
pass interference against Andre Reed, Buffalo would've won." yeah. sure.


Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: NLNS: CHRISTIAN IDENTITY (UPDATED V
Date: 3 Oct 1992 08:57:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I join Joe Gaut in asking Chip Berlet to share with us a clear and
concise statement of what he believes fascism to be. I would extend
this to solicit his comments on LaRouche's long standing assertion
that a central characteristic of fascism is state enforced austerity
against the living standards of working people. To this end LaRouche 
has repeatedly cited the programs of Nazi finance minister Hjalamar
Schact (sp?) whose attempts to solve the Reich's financial crisis were
allegedly the economic motivation behind the Nazi slave labor camps.

This should not be such a difficult point for a researcher and student 
of fascism od Chip's stature to give us a thoughtful and informed
opinion about.
-Steve
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm,alt.politics.clinton
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 13:14:38 GMT

vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>Let's see, Bush became VP under Reagan in 1980 right? Lessee, the Iran-Iraq
>war began in October 1980. Nope, Bush wasn't in office (and clearly didn't
>know anything about it either :).

Its fairly common practice for Vice Presidents to be unknown, uninformed
nobodies. For you say that Bush had an effect on the policy-making efforts
of the Reagan administration would imply that you also agree that Dan
Quayle can have a similar effect on Bush's decisions.


>Republiclone slime. Eat shit and die.

Wow. Such a convincing argument. I'm impressed... not.


MD
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:36:21 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

What I've seemed to notice concering the atomic attacks on Hiroshima and
Nagasaki to end World War II is that the "condemnation" didn't come until
years later.  Today, America is vilefied for it, but I ask my parents how
they learned about it in school, during the early sixties, and they tell
me that back then it was acknoweldged that the use of atomic bombs on Japan
was justified.  Interesting, isn't it??

Now a seprate debate could be waged about NASA's monopoly on US space
technology--I for one would like to see the commercialization of spaceflight.
Even exploration dosen't need govt. help--look at the privately-funded Arctic
and Antarctic expeditions during the 1920s and 30s.                 Simon
From: rdna@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Paul Paukstelis)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: CTBT
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:24:51 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Summary: ctbt
Keywords: ctbt


Has the House overidden Bush's veto on the comprehensive test ban treaty?
With all this cable talk, they say that the cable bill is the only thing
which has been overidden. please clarify for me if someone could. thanks

--rDNA
paul
From: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Are You a Misanthrope?
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:11:46 CDT
Organization: America, Planet Earth

	I have a good friend (who does not have internet access) who wishes 
to pose a question to this forum.  She is a serious naturalist who is 
concerned about her views concerning mankind's actions as a whole.

	To anyone who considers themselves a true misanthrope:  Why?  Why 
are you misanthropic?  What do you believe so much that you would term 
yourself as misanthropic?  What are your reasons for your beliefs?

	My friend has many misanthropic viewpoints, mostly related to 
humankind's destruction of the environment.  She wishes to supplement her 
viewpoints with others' after carefully analyzing each reason and opinion of 
those who respond to this post.

	I will print responses and give them to her, and allow her to respond 
through my or another account.

	Thank you!  :)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 David Caruso II                               Email: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: The Media Monopoly (part 5)
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:24:07 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <Bv5rDA.9DH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman) writes:
> 
> The Media Monopoly
> 
> by Ben H. Bagdikian
> 
> 
	[see original postings] 

> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Synopsis/Review by Brian Redman
> "Ah yes, Armageddon. I remember it


	Thanks for posting the excellent series on "The Media Monopoly".
Most stimulating and informative.  

	The article mentions the Dallas Morning News reporter who is
fired for accurately reporting the impending failure of an Abilene bank.

	It interests me that banks seem to be so often untouchable.  How
many people know about legislation pending before Congress that would
bring about an audit of the books of the Federal Reserve for the first
time since its inception in 1913?  Why do reports on BCCI seem so
limited?  And who can find out anything about the scandal surrounding
the Atlanta branch of the Banco Nacional de Lavaro that helped finance
Sadam Hussein.  Could it be because of the up-to-the-neck involvement
of Lawrence Eagleburger and Brent Scowcroft, graduates of Kissinger and
Associates?  And what about Eagleburger's involvment in establishing
a bank to launder Inslaw proceeds?  (But then, what do we hear about
Inslaw, anyway).

	Could it be that the banks hold the notes on the corporations
that strangle a free press?  What does the average citizen know about
Silverado?  And why is it that here lately books that really contain
a message about contemporary society are published by some offbeat
back-alley press while the major publishing houses ignore their
responsibilities to the public?
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:47:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.022414.2285@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>Well, if our President is unprincipled, then Hussein is totally evil (sent the
>heads of executed people to their families!!).

We've know that Hussein was evil for quite some time, and yet Bush had
consorted with him for years before the invasion.


--
"Sounds interesting....  Sounds interesting...."
				-- Homer Simpson
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.activism.d
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: The Decline of America: The Police-State
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:39:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.160052.27640@mont.cs.missouri.edu> harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:
>                     People in jail per 100,000:
>
>(1) U.S.:               426
>(2) South Africa:       333
>(3) Soviet Union:       268
>        In rate, U.S. has 28% more than South Africa;
>        and 59% more than Soviets in prisons.

Isn't it fun to compare the US with countries that have lots of extrajudicial
imprisonments (and killings) that don't show up in jail statistics?
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore Misusing Federal Computer Network Resources
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:05:49 GMT

loeb@ai.mit.edu (Eric Loeb) writes:

> Bill Clinton and Al Gore are committed to bringing all Americans 
> into the American political process -- for the good of our country.  

Ah, so they believe the ends justifies the means? They'll do whatever
it takes, laws and existing regulations be damned.


> We are happy to announce a new step forward in 21st century 
> democracy: We now have a mail server that will allow you, the 
> internet citizen, to receive on-line campaign documents and send 
> your comments and ideas back to us.

Interesting concept. Perhaps we should just allow every political
organization in the country on the Internet, "for the good of the
people" naturally. Including, naturally, groups like the NRA, Operation
Rescue, and a whole slew of other groups. Hell, even Earth First could
get on the 'net so they can plot tree-spiking.



MD
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From: mcgredo@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Don McGregor)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: NLNS: 'THE PANAMA DECEPTION'
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:15:58 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <9210031441.AA12058@igc.apc.org> nlns@igc.apc.org (New Liberation News Service) writes:
>	According to Barbara Trent, director of the soon-to-be-
>released feature-length documentary, The Panama Deception, 
>"Thousands of Panamanians were killed during the invasion...

Americas Watch and the Roman Catholic Church don't think so.  They
found no evidence of thousands of deaths; their estimates were 
roughly in line with those of the US--perhaps several hundred
civilian AND military.

Panamanians are required to have an identity card that is renewed
every year or two.  There was no drop of several thousand reapplications
as would be expected if thousands had died.  Also, there simply aren't
that many missing people in Panama.

-- 
Don McGregor             | "I..I blame society.  Society made me  
mcgredo@prism.cs.orst.edu|  what I am."
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore Misusing Federal Computer Network Resources
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:53:55 GMT

tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:

[immature posting deleted]

>When I traceroute to mail.Clinton-Gore.org, my bits are going over
>PSInet, through the CIX, through UUNET.  I'm in the US.

>Tell me how this violates the NSFnet Acceptable Use Policy.

It doesn't... for you. That doesn't include many other sites, such as .EDU
and .GOV sites which receive their traffic over such circuits.

I'm sure a Senator like Jesse Helms would be happy to hear that a political
campaign is thumping votes over a federally-funded computer network.

MD
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From: awair@igc.apc.org (Arab World and Islamic Resources)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Mass Killings
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:07:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500394:000:1845
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!awair    Oct  2 13:07:00 1992


From: Arab World and Islamic Resources <awair>
Subject: Mass Killings


/* Written 12:19 pm  Sep 21, 1992 by 4f@delta.il.us in cdp:alt.save.the.e */
/* ---------- "@@@@ Mass killings @@@@" ---------- */
I have some disturbing news that I would like everyone to know.  A few
weeks ago I was eating dinner with some friends.  One of my friends told
me that over the summer he met four soldiers that took part in Desert Storm.
All of the soldiers told him a similar gruesome story.  According to the
soldiers, U.S. military personnel dug a huge pit and ordered Iraqi
POWs to lay down in the pit.  The U.S. military personnel were there ordered
to bulldoze sand over the Iraqi's in the pit.  THOUSANDS of Iraqi's were
BURRIED ALIVE.  The U.S. soldiers that took part in this were told that if
they refused to do this, they would be shot.  The thing that makes me believe
this is that none of the four soldiers that my friend talked to knew each
other and he talked to them individually.

A few days ago my friend told me that he has heard more about this incident.
He said that he has heard from another source that there was a war crimes
trial after Desert Storm, and there are now U.S. military personnel in
prison for doing this.

This story is really disturbing.  I am also afraid that this is an example
of another government cover-up.  I urge you to distribute this article to
anyone that you think will read it.  Print it out and mail it to a news
paper or tv/radio station.  Send a copy to your congress man/woman or
representative.  Call your local peace advocacy group and ask them if they
know about this.  Mail a copy of this to your favorite presidential
candidate, too.

You may have noticed that I am posting this anonymously.  The reason
for this is that I don't want to get snuffed out by the CIA.

Thank you,
A concerned citizen
From: rsnyder@atl.ge.com (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,news.admin
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore Misusing Federal Computer Network Resources
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:07:31 GMT
Organization: GE Aerospace, Advanced Technology Labs

In article <1992Sep28.021820.9274@anomaly.sbs.risc.net> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>lear@yeager.corp.sgi.com (Eliot Lear) writes:
>
>>Spare me.  They have just as much right to blather on the net as we
>>do.
>
>Oh, so my company has the right to blather commercial information across the
>net too?

Yup.  Just stick it in the right place.  (biz.*)


>>And just who shall we elect to decide which printing presses are to
>>be closed down for `political' activities?
>
>"Free Speech" does not mean government-sponsored printing presses.

Government sponsored in what way?  If you want to say that people receiving
funding from the government, you just killed every post for *.gov, as well
as a large number of educational sites and some commerical ones, that do
work for the government.

Bob
-- 
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rsnyder@atl.ge.com, (609) 866-6672, FAX: (609) 866-6397, DialComm 8*777-6672
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm,alt.politics.clinton