From: doug@eng.umd.edu (Douglas N. Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Seeking Wing Chun
Summary: -=-=-< a suggestion >-=-=-
Keywords: -=-=-< check it out >-=-=-
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:20:39 GMT
Followup-To: ok, send it here
Organization: hah!
Cc: jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu

In article <1992Sep2.212837.8042@ncsu.edu> jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch) writes:

>
>Well, not just Wing Chun, but Tai Chi also.  I guess I'm mainly interested in
>developing my internal power, and studying an art which has more emphasis on
>close-in fighting.  I'm in Raleigh, NC, and I've been able to find just one
>person who teaches Tai Chi.  His name is Joe Caballero, and he teaches at the
>Asian Cultural Center.
>
>	I have not yet visited this Center, but I plan to.  I understand from
>talking with whoever was manning the phone the other day that the A.C.C. is not
>really a school in the sense of having connections with the teachers.  I.E., 
>the teachers (apparently there are quite a few) pay some sort of fee to hold
>classes at the Center.  The phone-lady I spoke to did say it was "primarily an
>Aikido dojo", but that TKD, Judo, and Tai Chi were taught as well.
>
>	So, does anyone on the net have any leads on where I could get good
>Wing Chun instruction?  Or Tai Chi, for that matter.  Ideally, I would like to
>find a non-commercial instructor who teaches in order to spread knowledge to
>worthy students (maybe I'm being too idealistic here).  Anybody out there have
>some advice?  E-mail any replies; I will send summaries to any interested
>netters.
>
>Mitch --------------------------> jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu

	a suggestion....
	down where you are there is a far better style available to you, taught
by an *excellent* teacher, and is a far more effective style than wing chun.
it is the Hung Gar system of Sifu Jamal al Bakkar, of the Triangle Martial Arts
school, in raleigh.  i know and have seen his skill.  he is *GOOD* and quite
traditional, and he know the iron wire techniques, and *that* is one of the 
highest of the levels of the traditional Hung Gar system's internal aspects,
and NOT A WHOLE LOT of Hung Gar teachers are able to claim that!  
	Sifu Jamal is the student of Sifu William Chen, who also teaches T'ai
Chi, and is also located down there, not far away.  Sifu Jamal has written
about 6 or 7 books on traditional Hung Gar, and it's history, and is quite 
knowledgable and has extensively traveled in the east and done much research
on his and other styles.  i have become good friends with him, and he has
personally demonstrated privately on my back deck, some of the prober basics
to the systems.  he *KNOWS* his art!
	his school is friendly (i hosted them in my home when they came up here)
and his instructors are well trained, but he keeps on them and works their butts
off!  he is very approachable, and very competent; and a hell of a nice guy,
(as most *good* sifus are) and not into the political scene.  his school is
small and the training on the personal level.  his students adore him and it
is justified.  check him out!  it is worth it, and it will supprise you with
the depth of his skill and knowledge.  give him a shot.  and be sure to tell
him you heard about it and him from me.  also check out his books.  they
aren't fancy, but they are very good!
	hope this has been of some help to you.....
	another opinion, worth what you paid for it!
	and, as always, i am/at:

	     doug:  <doug@eng.umd.edu> : <doug@lpf.umd.edu>

	-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-< a ghost in the machine >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

	"presidential elections are planned distractions
	 to divert attention from the actions behind the scenes....
	 like a game of chess when the house is a mess, or
	 a petty money squabble when your marriage is in trouble,
	 or a football game when there's rioting in the street!

	 it's just another movie.....  another song and dance.....
	 another poor sucker who never had a chance!
	 it's just another captain goin' down with his ship.....
	 it's just another jerk, taking pride in his work!

				       greetings from timbuck three!
From: natalies@hplsla.hp.com (Natalie Schuchard)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:15:04 GMT
Subject: Model Mugging (long)
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA