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From: flash@admiral.uucp (Gordon Wormser)
Subject: Aikido in Las Vegas, NV
Reply-To: flash@admiral.uucp (Gordon Wormser)
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:04:22 GMT

Anyone know of an Aikido dojos in the Las Vegas, NV area.  Thanks.

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From: alexj@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Alexander Jackl )
Subject: Re: Can boxing skills handle kicking? (to Colin Adams)
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab - Group 43
Distribution: rec.martial-arts
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:57:20


In Message ID: <1992Aug28.162111.27107@PA.dec.com> Todd I. Stark mentions that
Boxing works against kcks but has problems with low-line attacks.  

I thought this wa sinteresting because most of the arts I have studied teach
people that in combat you should always kick low-line and only sportsman
and fools or REALLY fast people launch kicks anywhere above the waist.  

I think people who think the standard kick is  head or shoulder level kick
are people who are exposed mostly to Tae-Kwon_Do and Sport Kickboxing and not
ummm... ahhh... real(duck, block!) fighting arts...  not to say Kickboxing or
Tae-Kwon-Do can't be fighting arts (back pedal, back pedal) just that
they USUALLY are taught as sports in htis country(U.S.A.).

Alex

Alexander Jackl
Technical Writer
MIT/Lincoln Lab
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From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Seeking Feedback (was Re: Shotokan misconceptions)
Organization: University of Utah
	<1992Aug27.021009.17539@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> <#cj-sB=@engin.umich.edu>
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:30:15

In article <#cj-sB=@engin.umich.edu> ftit@engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman) writes:

   What I don't get is, how *can* you be emotional?  Do you think,
   "OhmyGod!  I'm gonna' have to hurt this poor seven-foot-tall 250 lb.
   motorcycle-gang-type who wants very much to kill me.  I've never
   hurt anyone before.  My phaser only goes to 'maximum stun'."  May I
   submit that by the time you've thought that you may be dead?

sergej, i do not see a conflict between the reflexive nature of
fighting, and taking the time to carefully think things through.

(setq sun_tzu-mode t)

the difference lies in distinguishing between the war and the battle.
on level ground, you cannot win a battle with a 7-foot monster.  if
you are not able to avoid meeting one on level ground, you will lose
the war as well.

there is little time for thought in battle, but you must wage war very
carefully and deliberately.  this requires forethought, and open eyes.

(setq sun_tzu-mode f)

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From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Fencing
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:35:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.3600
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Sep2.234333.18202@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pmw2c@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU (Paul Michael Wayner) writes:
>What's escrima?

	A scream'a is'a whatta you do whena you stuba your toe onna da
mat. 

	Dose karate guys issa alway a'screamin' at eacha other, too.


					"Heya, Harpo, where'sa da monkey?"
From: dsr@bnr.co.uk (D.S.Riches)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Seoi Nage / Tomoe Nage
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:44:22 GMT
Reply-To: dsr@bnr.co.uk (D.S.Riches)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article ricks@berkeley.edu writes:
>
>There are some statistics about the most usefull throws in Judo.
>In all statistics I have seen, the two first places have been
>Seoi Nage and Uchi Mata. Sometimes the firstone in front, sometimes
>the second one.

In the 1984 Olympics (I may be wrong on the championship but it was
certainly one of the Olympics or World), the technique that was used
most (80% of the time) to "set up" an opponent for the winning throw 
was Ko Uchi Gari.
>
>
>Any comments on Seoi Nage or Tomoe Nage?

A safer form of Tomoe Nage (safer in that there's less chance of Uke
falling on you or blocking the the throw) is Yoko Tomoe Nage or
Spinning Stomach Throw.  The Best exponent of this throw was Karen
Briggs.

In this throw, Uke is bending forward, Tori holds at Uke's left elbow
and pulls down constantly hard and then steps into the throw such that
Tori's head goes down to Uke's left foot, Tori's right foot goes into
Uke's stomach.  Then Tori's left leg which should still be on the
ground is used to provide lift to bring Uke onto their toes.  Tori's
right hand now pulls Uke's left arm across Uke's front and the Tori's
left hand pushes Uke's right side away so that a circular motion is
created (like turning a wheel).  Uke is then deposited, on their back
(of course :-) to the right hand side of Tori such that Tori and Uke
end up side by side.

The best way to practise this is the same way as the kata for, ummm, 
damn forgot the name!!!, (De Ashi Barai?), where Uke and Tori take 3
skipping steps before Tori sweeps Uke's trailing leg but for the
tomoenage he performs the... tomeonage instead.

I have Noboyuki Sato to thank for that one when he taught at my club
at University in England a few years ago :-) [Name dropper... wot me?!]

>Hartmut Schwab
>schwab@mathematik.uni-kl.de

Dave


   Dave Riches
   Email:  David.S.Riches@bnr.co.uk
   Smail:  BNR Europe Ltd, London Road,
           Harlow, Essex. CM17 9NA.  England
   Phone:  +44 (0)279-402496
   Fax:    +44 (0)279-451434
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Martial Arts Interest
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:49:02 GMT

In article <laadkoINNf4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>#1 Does anyone have a list of all the martial arts disciplines, with
>      a description of main emphasis.  ie Kenpo - self defense, low kicks etc???

All? I really doubt it: There are, at least, a few hunderd (though perhaps
only a few dozen have become widely popular here in the United States...)

>#2 Does anyone have an idea of the average rate for lessons???
>I'm from San Jose, CA and it seems the going rate (I called kenpo, judo & take won do
>schools), averaged  $70.00 per month, including 1 private lesson.

There is a guy in Berkeley who teaches Ba gua, Shing-yi (sp?) and Tai Chi
for $10 per week (up to 5 hours each week of whatever you like) or
$25 per hour for private lessons. That might not help you much, since
he likes small informal classes (e.g. he doesn't take many students) 

>#3 Any other information to share, esp. regarding testing and time
>required to graduate to different levels???

>I would like to focus on self-defense, techniques for women.

From what I have heard from some women students, you might want to
avoid Peter Ralston's school in Oakland. (Not because he, or anyone
in his school, actually do anything offensive, but it isn't rumored to
be a comfortable atmosphere...)

                                                Frank Crary
                                                CU Boulder
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: hayesj@skyfox.usask.ca
Subject: NEW MARTIAL ART FOR THE STREET NOT THE DOJO
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:12:42 GMT

NOW THERE IS A MARTIAL ART DESIGNED FOR THE STREET NOT THE DOJO
This new Martial Art deals with the reality and finality of street confrontationnot the fantasy of sparring competitions.
WHAT IS THIS NEW STYLE THAT BOASTS SUCH CLAIMS?

YU GI (yoo Gee) an eclectic combat system which combines the elements of
YOSHINKAW AIKIDO, YOSHITSUNE WAZA JU-JUTSU, TAEKWON DO, KUNG FU and JUDO.
comments and admiration from such people as JOE LEWIS, BILL (SUPERFOOT) WALLACE,
TONY BLAUER, MICHAEL DEPASQUALE JR. & SR., GRACIELA CASTILLAS, GRANDMASTER
LOU ANGEL as well as organizations such as THE WORLD SELF DEFENCE FEDERATION,
NATIONAL COLLEGE OF MARTIAL ARTS, THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION of JU JUISANS,
KARATE INTERNATIONAL MAGAZINE, ect.

The founder and Chief Instructor of Yu Gi is TIM HENRY 5th DAN BLACK BELT.
With 21 YEARS of solid Martial Arts background and holder of serveral Black BeltRanks in a variety of styles.  In addition to this experience Sensei Henry also brings with him several years of Law Enforcement Experience from California
which adds to his REALISTIC APPROACH to street confontation.

This style is currently only offered in Canada, but is now on step by step
INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO which has been ACCREDITED for BELT TESTING in this style
GRANDMASTER HENRY welcomes all questions and comments with reguard to this article or for VIDEO INFORMATION.

GRANMASTER HENRY has done personal training with GRANDMASTER LOU ANGEL 10th DAN
Sept. or Oct. issue of KARATE INTERNATIONAL MAGAZINE will be mention the
Martial Art of YU GI in CANADIAN FOCUS.  Further articals will be published
in upcoming issues.

for more info. reply to MARK PERRY at:     hayesj@skyfox.usask.ca
From: 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Indiana Dan Inosanto seminar info
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:28:31 GMT


	Okay, here are the details on my sifu (Keith Wetoskey)'s sem-
inar with Dan Inosanto.

	Date: September 19th and 20th
	Times: 19th - 10:00 am - 5:00 pm
		20th - Noon - 7:00 pm
	Place: Waterloo Elementary School
		East Douglas Street
		Waterloo, IN
	Cost: $95.00 for the weekend, $60.00 for one day if paid by Sept.
		5th. At the door - $115.00
	Bring: Focus mitts, sticks (long and short, or buy some from 
		Keith), I suggest a notebook.
	Contact: Keith Wetoskey
		 4127 U.S. 6 East
		 Waterloo, IN 46793
		 (219) 837 - 7454

	Dan Inosanto and his wife, Paula, will be covering Jun Fan trap-
	ping hands, Filipino weaponry, Kabri Kabrong, and Pentjak Silat.


		
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From: lund@ssd.kodak.com (Nate Lund)
Subject: Re: Looking for Japanese Sword
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:23:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.135251.8622@sei.cmu.edu> dmw@sei.cmu.edu (David White) writes:
>Hey all:

[snip]

>Also, where would a person go to purchase a cheap($180 - $400) katana.  I need
>a real one to practice with, but since it will be getting banged on frequently,
>I am hoping that there are swords that are not antiques that will last  and are
>relatively inexpensive.

If by katana you mean a folded blade, then I'm afraid that Andy V. is right.
(If you find a supply of genuine katana in that range - let me know! :-)

My practice sword is the ~$130 stainless from Century.  I don't bang it, so
can't say if it will stand up to that kind of abuse.  The blade is 440 so it
will take an edge (well, not a _real_ katana edge, but better than Al), and
the aluminum scabbard is good for a neophyte such as myself who would most
likely split a genuine wood scabbard.  The biggest drawback so far is that
the handle wrapping was too loose for actual use, so I spent ~4 hours one
night rewrapping it good and tight.  My fingers were sore for weeks.

>Thanks in advance,

Doitashimashite.

Nate
nlund@kodak.com
From: bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM ((LaVonne)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Martial Arts Interest
Date: 2 Sep 1992 21:48:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: theoasis.corp.sun.com

I just started reading this group about 2 days ago with the intent of learning
about the various types & forms of martial arts.
I've never study any type of martial art and would like to know some
background information before I pursue this costly sport.

#1 Does anyone have a list of all the martial arts disciplines, with
      a description of main emphasis.  ie Kenpo - self defense, low kicks etc???

#2 Does anyone have an idea of the average rate for lessons???
I'm from San Jose, CA and it seems the going rate (I called kenpo, judo & take won do
schools), averaged  $70.00 per month, including 1 private lesson.
These rates may be reflected upon the experience of the teacher, reputation
of the school.   Anyone have any comments???

#3 Any other information to share, esp. regarding testing and time
required to graduate to different levels???

I would like to focus on self-defense, techniques for women.

thanks,

Lavonne
From: david_yeh@MACMAIL.MED.NYU.EDU ("David Yeh")
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re- Tai Chi, final
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:32:20 GMT


                      Re: Tai Chi, final
Lawrence Chan said:

>2. Today's approach to Tai Chi practice is,
>
>     A. the forms
>     B. push hands
>     C. da lu
>     D. single form
>     E. sword and/or other weapons

Just my humble observation:

In the past, I've heard people talk on the Taiji threads that a "practical"
application or exercise (i.e., the next step after push hands exercise) in
Taiji is da lu.  I practice Taiji myself, but I don't really know what da lu
is.  Can someone explain?

My teacher teaches Taiji, and for more advanced classes he teaches push hands,
yes.  But for us, the next "practical" exercise he teaches is something he
calls san shou.  In Chinese a word for word translation means "break hand"
("break" as in "breaking out" or something).  Basically, this class is all
practical applications, and people put on 10lb gloves and basically box each
other using the techniques and theory we learn from our various forms and push
hands classes.  From a quick scan of the room it appears as if people are just
boxing, though maybe a bit differently than how you see the way TV shows
boxing.  But if you look, you see how we're all applying principles into
delivering energy and putting power (non-muscular, that is) into our punches. 
But, at least with the beginner san shou classes, if you concentrate on your
form, the gloves aren't so much for protecting the other person as much as it
is to make the beginner feel safer in "letting loose" a little (after all, who
wants to actually *hurt* someone in class? :)

Pure practical application.  I hear the advanced classes are more intense.  Is
da lu anything like this?

In case you're wondering who this is who teaches san shou, I study under
William C.C. Chen, if this means anything.  I was actually quite surprised to
see his name mentioned in this newsgroup a few times in the past, apparently he
has a reputation of being "practical" about his Taiji.  I just go to his school
because it's the closest one to me, much more convenient :)

-DavID
From: exudms@exu.ericsson.se (New Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Invertebrated
Keywords: Bed time story
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:28:41 GMT
Reply-To: exudms@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article 5077@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP, dcwst8+@pitt.edu (David C Winters) writes:
>In article <1992Aug22.124602.21741@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> ejdath@donner.uucp (25832-dath) writes:
>>It's funny that someone mentioned invertebrates...
>>
>>I was wandering down my front walk not really thinking clearly and all of
>>a sudden I was confronted with a really huge earth worm, the wild kind.
>
>  [attack by deadly, vicious <shudder> esrthworms - deleted]
>
>>any suggestions?
>>
>>Does anyone have any defenses in case the worms return?
>
>There's an ancient art, that combines the Martial Arts, with a secret
>weapon from the Kitchen Arts.  It's name was set using the Chinese
>language, in form similar to Kung Fu, but no one is certain of this
>art's region of origin.
>
>In additon to earthworms, this art is also quite effective against
>snails, slugs, and leechs.
>
>It's Name?  Salt Fu. 

Would you swear this to the kitchen god?

I think you guys had too much tea, personally.

But you know it does remind me of an adventure I had once while swimming
in the Pacific. It was just a normal vacation day swimming outside the calm 
waters of the Blue Lagoon, when all-of-the-sudden a Anemone, I mean
a giant Sea Anemone seventeen meters wide, floated underneth me and
swallowed me into its core and then desended back down to the ocean floor.
My first thought was %$#$*^@, then it was something like "Martial Arts", 
..."Martial Arts"...so I quickly retrieved my dagger and imbedded it into the
inside of this beast (or flower). Nothing happened! And I was running out of
air quick too! I scawered around the abdomen of the Anemone and found
a few Mexican liscense plates and hurled them into the sides. Nothing 
happened! 
Luckly I was sharring quarters with a large (vertebrate) Tuna! I managed to
get it underneth me were I could stand on it to reach the mouth of this 
giant invertebrate. I then used my Chi and escaped! and just in time!!
I shot back up to the surface of the water to catch my breath but was 
exhausted from the excitement. Just by luck a passing helicopter came by
and droped down a rope latter to me, then it flew me to safety.

Well, you guys think Invertebrates are bad, they're nothing compaired to
crustaceans. But that was a different time. If I remember right it was on
Ali Shan mountain that I crossed paths with a...or was it in the Amazon?

/New Dave




	*Opinions are mine and not that of my employer*
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: Western Boxing, how 'imprecise' is it ?
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 04:19:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.183133.4692@ns.network.com> hahn@plugh.network.com (Peter Hahn) writes:
>
>At any rate, where I work out, the lesson we are asked to draw from the
>fact that boxers miss once in a while is not that boxers are less
>precise than martial artists.  Rather, it is more like "That guy
>trained eight hours a day for ten years.  He still can't bat better
>than .500 with a *left* *jab*.  If you are trying something *more* complex,
>how often do you think you'll really land it?"

"Practise makes perfect, but only when you practise perfectly.  You
can practise all day and only perfect an error" - Stephen K. Hayes.

>Peter Hahn           |hahn@network.com|"...In Peking, he told me, there lived a

-- 
Colin Adams       Honours Student - James Cook University of North Queensland
  "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths 
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: jwalters@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Activist shot at Berkeley Chancellor's home 
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:30:47 GMT

In article <715302097snx@ietech.demon.co.uk>, nigel@ietech.demon.co.uk ("Nigel G. Backhurst") writes:
> 
> A few months ago during some inner city troble, I saw a police
> officer effectively disarm a six foot two machete wielding
> 160 lb assailent using an English Police trunction.  I belive
> these are somewhat smaller than American Police nightsticks.
> I had to admire the move.  I hold dan grades in a number of
> martial arts, including some weapon arts, but there was no way
> I would have disarmed the attacker without causing major damage.
> As it was he had a couple of very nasty bruises and a cracked
> shin.
> 
> Sorry but using a gun against a machete seems a bit of an
> overkill.
> 
When all police officers are better hand to hand fighters than
somebody who holds dan grades in a number of martial arts I will
agree with you.  Until then, cops have better things to do than 
get killed.

				Jim Walters
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Re: NEW MARTIAL ART FOR STREET NOT THE DOJO
Organization: University of Utah
	<1992Sep3.204723.2805@craycos.com>
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:55:00

In article <1992Sep3.204723.2805@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
   In article <3SEP92.17561777@skyfox.usask.ca> hayesj@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
   >NOW THERE IS A MARTIAL ART DESIGNED FOR THE STREET NOT THE DOJO
   >NOW THERE IS A MARTIAL ART DESIGNED FOR THE STREET NOT THE DOJO
   >This new Martail Art deals with the reality and finality of street confontations

   I see the freshmen have discovered Usenet.

right; it's time to start using rot-13 on all greenoch articles.

--
jonathan byrd
jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
From: roberts@pogo.wv.tek.com (Robert Stroud)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: What is "Index Over Fist"
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:23:09 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <13449@pogo.wv.tek.com> roberts@pogo.wv.tek.com (Robert Stroud) writes:
                     That's me!

>have been focusing on the fact that old ju-jutsu systems have
                                         ^^^^^^^^
         That should read ken-jutsu!
                          ^^^
Thanks 
-- 
Robert Stroud
Obukan Kendo Club
Portland Oregon USA
roberts@pogo.wv.tek.com
From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Jumping
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:19:07 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: bburgar@cix.compulink.co.uk's message of 1 Sep 92 19:37:00 GMT


In article <memo.604540@cix.compulink.co.uk> bburgar@cix.compulink.co.uk (Bill Burgar) writes:

   Ben Goodwin writes:
   >Quick question on jumping:
   >
   >What types of exercises should I do to increase my vertical leap?
   >I'm working on my jumping spinning back kicks and I figure there must
   >be some muscles that I can work on to give me a little more height.
   >
[snip]

   IMHO, you would do well to look at what your arms are doing. The
   arms play a very important part in getting your centre of gravity
   moving upward before your feet leave the floor.

True.  Your whole body has to jump, not just the legs.  Bring the arms 
UP, don't let 'em hang down, or you just won't get the height.  

Also, you need to pull your legs up as well.  They will drag you down just
as much as the arms if you don't.  For a side kick, the legs need
to both get pulled up as high as you can.  Think about touching your
knees to your shouders.  You wouldn't actually want to DO this, but
you won't be able to anyway, so don't worry...just think about pulling
them up to your shoulders, and that will help get them in the right
position.  THEN you kick, and the non-kicking leg stays pulled up
while you kick.  

   Also some time watching some high and long jumping would be time
   well spent. Notice the dip just before takeoff to store up energy
   in the tendons.

This helps with flying kicks, not with a simple jumping spinning back
kick, which is done from a standing start.  For flying kicks, it 
seems to help if you start the run-in kinda slow and accelerate into
the jump..  A lot of times you'll see people slow down before the jump, 
which is counterproductive.  You need to learn how to move from a running
stride right into the jump...it's quite different from doing it from
a standing start.
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