HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: That Bitch
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:19:43 GMT
Organization: MOOOOOOOOOON RIIIIIIIIIIVER!

andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
>exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
>>tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>>>
>>>      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
>>>      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
>>>                            But you can make decisions too
>>>      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break 
>>
>>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Whose work is that?
>
>Billy Joel, isn't it?    "In every heart, there is a room
>			  A sanctuary, safe and strong..."
>
>I think the title is, "And so it goes".   A truly great song.  I hope
>that Kristen isn't as sad as the song is.

Yup, it's off of the Storm Front album...dog ate my copy though...:(

I'm not *too* sad, but if I could find a @#%*! job, I'd be better...

>   Andrew Hart  

   Tyger

-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break 
 
                       
        
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.architecture
Reply-To: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Organization: School of Civil Engineering, Purdue University
Disclaimer: as usual...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:15:14 GMT

 In article <1992Sep11.131933.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>Since architecture is such a good subject for a newsgroup, why restrict it
>to alt?  I think it would pass easily as sci.architecture.... a little
>more legwork, but it'd be worth it.
>

	I also strongly support this idea and I believe the field of 
	Architecture deserves to become part of sci.*.


>Greg
>--
>Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
>f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."
>

	 - Benjamin Wai  < wai@cn.ecn.purdue.edu > < wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu >
---
Xref: sparky alt.config:5665 alt.motorcycles.harley:783
From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: removal of alt.motorcycles.harley
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:18:48 GMT
    <1992Sep8.160521.14468@crd.ge.com> 
    <71600408026771@c00313-11pa.eos.ncsu.edu> 
    <1992Sep9.171719.16831@midway.uchicago.edu> 
    <1992Sep10.195233.9990@crd.ge.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:

>|>r.m.harley hasn't been created yet on my local news server.  
>|Perhaps your news admin has been on vacation;  why don't you
>|send her/him a nice note?

>  And as of right now we are up to message #12 on this system, eight of
>which are on what brand of beer real bikers drink. We get a 56kb NNTP
>feed from uunet, so I don't think we're missing anything.

Umm, we're up past article 350 here in r.m.h and around 785 in a.m.h.

>  When I created this group I didn't intend it to last after the new
>group got started, but I think this one better stay around a bit longer,
>because there are a lot of systems without it. Maybe one more month,
>until the schools get back to normal operation and do a checkgroup using
>Spaf's excelent list.

Don't get too worked up about the exact date.  It's not like a.m.h
will actually disappear, no matter how many rmgroups go out.

>  Maybe bring it up around the 1st of October? The question is not IF we
>change, but WHEN we change. And I suggest anyone removing it create an
>alias rather than just blowing it away, so traffic doesn't get lost
>completely.

And have my users complain about articles appearing twice in r.m.h when
people start crossposting?  Not a chance.  When I turn off a.m.h, it
gets x'ed out.
-- 
Kenneth Herron                                           kherron@ms.uky.edu
University of Kentucky                                      +1 606 257 2975
Department of Mathematics           "Thanks to the magic of the slow-motion 
camera, we can now show you how ugly the inside of someone's mouth can be."
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL:  alt.comics.lnh
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep13.183632.8695@news.nd.edu>, mkelly@lazy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes...
> 
> jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (Multi-Tasking Man) writes:
> 
>|> Comments welcome.
> 
>I like it. It would also serve to see if a rac.creative or some such would 
>fly.

I also agree that this would be a good idea.

*******************************************************************************
"Groovy!" - Ash "Evil Dead II : Dead By Dawn" (1987)
*******************************************************************************
"Fans are interesting things. Rush fans just can't comprehend why the
rest of the world doesn't like Rush. REM fans consider the rest of the world
beneath their social level to notice. Kate Bush fans love the rest of the
world, and the world loves them, but spend long nights plotting to knife
one another."                    --Richard Darwin
                                   Richard Darwin #33, "Gradenza"
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The KaTeFan(tm)
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 17:49:39 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Sep9.122013.135683@wolves.uucp> news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den) writes:
>In article <1992Sep09.014428.7703@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) whines:

>>Perhaps your supervisor at Duke University can succeed where I have
>>failed. Please e-mail to me his name and phone number. Even if you
>>refuse, I can find out quick enough on my own, and I will do so if
>>your conduct persists.
>
>You do that you wimp.  Pussy.  Coward.  If you don't succeed in getting me
>fired, you'll never be able to show your face around here again.  Little man.
>
>>not what you are being paid to do. Keep it up, and you'll be history. 
>
>You sound like a woman who can't control her own child.  "Keep it up and
>I'll tell your father".  I'm shaking in my boots.
>
>Suck my dick, asshole.
>--
>Usenet Net News Administrator @ The Wolves Den  (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
>news%wolves@cs.duke.edu     ...duke!wolves!news     "We don't need no
>There is a real person who watches this account.   stinking disclaimers"


Fine. The president of Duke University and their Board of Directors
will be receiving by certified mail printouts of all your postings
in this thread.

Enjoy you laugh for the next few days, while you can, because it is going
to be short lived. I regret that you are going to have to learn one
of life's hard lessons in this manner. Believe me. I take no pleasure
in this. I wish you all the best.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:30:45 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
> alt.fan.disney.afternoon is a brand-new group.  If I hear no
> objections, tomorrow I will newgroup alt.tv.disney-aftn and rmgroup
> alt.fan.disney.afternoon.

It's impossible to rmgroup an alt group.  You'll just end up with two
Disney Afternoon groups.

Have you checked the group?  There's already been activity on it. 
Rmgrouping it will just end up confusing some users.
-- 
Stephanie da Silva                                    arielle@taronga.com
"I am *not* Tuskernini -- and this is an excellent disguise!" -- Tuskernini
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: vibard@venus.resntl.bhp.com.au
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: BHP Research, Newcastle Laboratories
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:29:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.030623.18637@wolves.uucp>, news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den) writes:
> [Note: followup to alt.config only please.]
> 
> There have been about 12 or thirteen requests in the past few months for
> a group to discuss herbalism -- the use of vegetable material for
> healing purposes.
> 
> Barring any strong objection to the name or the subject matter, which
> should occur via posting to alt.config, I will issue a newgroup control
> message on Wednesday or Thursday, September 9th or 10th. (Well, maybe
> I'll wait until the 14th or 15th for more time. :-)
> 
> Please express your opinions on alt.config.
> 
> 				Wolfe
> -- 
> Usenet Net News Administrator @ The Wolves Den  (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
> news%wolves@cs.duke.edu     ...duke!wolves!news     "We don't need no
> There is a real person who watches this account.   stinking disclaimers"

You have my vote. Thanks for taking the time and effort to organise the new
group.
      All the best,    David.
Newsgroups: alt.config,news.admin
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: Warning: Imminent death of the net predicted
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 05:55:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep05.141405.994@anomaly.sbs.risc.net> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>In various messages, 
>akt@dc.Clinton-Gore.org (Amit Thakur) writes:
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats.clinton moderated
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats.d
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats moderated
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats.house moderated
>>Control: newgroup alt.politics.democrats moderated
>
>I believe this to be a very bad[tm] thing. While discussions of politics
>are a norm on USENET, here we have an organized campaign which will be
>utilizing the resources of USENET - both funded by the federal government
>and private organizations/companies - to propagate announcements and
>other campaign information.
>
>The poster indicates that a message discussing each of these groups was 
>posted in ALT.CONFIG, but nothing was received here, nor were there any
>apparent followups to the message, just "favorable e-mail".
>
>Comments?

Are you sure the address isn't a joke?

I would be surprised if the campaign folks didn't have that much common
sense.

It is certainly worth checking into. But are we sure that having and individual
in the campaign starting newsgroups is a *bad* thing? It will still have
net access/control, right?  I would think that these groups, as well as
the Republican couterpart should be on the net *anyway*.  Agree?


-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.privacy
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.privacy.encryption
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:23:25 GMT

In article <z=vnlpm.tomrice@netcom.com>, tomrice@netcom (Tom R. Rice) writes:
>There are other techie privacy aids, such as spread-spectrum or
>coherent CW radio communication schemes which render the very
>signals difficult to detect.  This might be good for 
>privacy-oriented hams, but would it be of general interest
>on the net?
> 
>How tightly do you want to keep it focussed?  Personally, I'd
>prefer to stick to the narrow view - encryption, codes, etc. 

My opinion is to go for wider coverage, ie. spread-spectrum radio
comms and such would be included, as well as voice comms encryption,
traffic analysis avoidal (in electronic as well as other comms).  For
this, alt.privacy.tools would in my opinion be a suitable name.

//Jyrki
Xref: sparky alt.config:5504 news.admin:7472
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: alt.config,news.admin
Subject: Re: Warning: Imminent death of the net predicted
Date: 6 Sep 92 05:48:03 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Sep05.141405.994@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>, kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
> The poster indicates that a message discussing each of these groups was 
> posted in ALT.CONFIG, but nothing was received here, nor were there any
> apparent followups to the message, just "favorable e-mail".

  I didn't see anything about these in alt.config either. If I did, I would
have commented that the large number of groups didn't seem necessary, and
I would have suggested that possibly a moderated .announce and an unmoder-
ated .d would be better.

  As things stand now, I'm not creating these groups. I tend to go along with
the "new groups divert traffic from heavily-used existing groups or serve a
large group of people who have declared an interest in the subject material"
philosophy. I've yet to see widespread interest in these groups.

  BTW, the same thing goes for the zillion Usenet University groups. I've got
them all aliased to alt.uu.misc, where I've currently got 23 items (8 day ex-
pire). I've seen a total of 230 articles between all the alt.uu.* groups. All
this sort of thing does is clutter up the namespace (and with certain folks
[you know who you are] who do unnatural acts with rmgroups, these groups can
never be deleted).

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:11:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.120111.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:

>In article <BuDynt.G1K@unix.amherst.edu>, twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>> 
>> What really makes me wonder is that people seem to think that because
>> there are fewer rules, there should be no rules.
>
>Rule #1:  There are no rules in a knife fight.

Rule #0: People don't pull knives in fist fights.  (What?)

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
Newsgroups: alt.society.anarchy,alt.config,talk.bizarre,alt.religion.kibology,alt.cascade
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: newgroup alt.society.anarchy
Followup-To: alt.society.anarchy
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 00:32:40 GMT



Charter:

	Ha!  You want a charter for anarchy?  Surely you jest.

For the newsgroups file:
alt.society.anarchy		Anything and everyting goes.


	M
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: tazzzzz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL for group "alt.cesium"
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:34:42 GMT

In article <a-nnc3j.lllowen@netcom.com> lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen) writes:
>What do we do?  Basically, we spend time discussing life, life away from home,
>and the sciences in between.  We discuss certain school related issues
>(usually something in engineering, computers or basketweaving), or spend
>time complaining that we're actually talking about school!  It's more or
>less a small support group, and always interesting in finding new people
>around the USA (or heck, even further!) who can define cesium beyond the
>7th decimal!  :)
>
>So, all you CESIUMites (if you're out there), let's speak up!  And of course,
>all others welcome to join in too.
>
>Thank you.
>-- 
>
>Lon Lowen Jr.                      lllowen@netcom.com
>Netcom On-Line Communications


As one of the Cesium originals, I would like to see this newsgroup created
so that others can join in on the discussions. It would be nice to broaden
our talks about college life around the country in the distinct Cesium style.
(The style is sometimes a little strange, but it can certainly be entertaining
and useful topics do come up).


-- 
Kevin (Tazzzzz) Dangoor          \ 
University of Michigan           /  You ever wonder?
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA         \
internet: tazzzzz@eecs.umich.edu /
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: CREATE alt.science.planetary
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:43:20 GMT


PUH-LEEEEEZE!






-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL:  alt.comics.lnh
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:19:09 GMT

I like the idea, but then, as one of the heavy posters to the LNH story lately,
I would like it, wouldn't I?  Suggestion, tho.  Make it alt.comics.NetHeroes or
some more descriptive label.  If I were new to newsgroups, I wouldn't know what
.lnh was.
     Dave Van Domelen, aka Dial "D" for dvandom, or D"D"D
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 06:18:10 GMT

> The net.name.pundit growls as he sees the newgroup go out...
> 
> "Should be alt.tv.disney.afternoon - no, alt.tv.disney..."

Nope.  Doesn't belong in the tv heirarchy, mainly because the Disney 
Afternoon involves considerably more than just the tv shows.

I didn't think there was any rhyme or reason to naming alt groups, no how.
If I were proposing a rec group, I wouldn't mess with rec.arts.tv mainly
because it's such a large and unwieldy group which doesn't need any more
traffic added to it.  Dunno about alt.tv, tho alt.tv.disney doesn't sound
right.  Not descriptive enough.
Brings to mind things like the Wonderful World of Disney or televised movies
on UHS channels like The Love Bug or Son of Flubber.  Nah.
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: newgroup alt.planetary.science
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:07:33 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


Charter would be the same as was posted for sci.space.planets several 
times in sci.space. The charter will be reposted if/when this group is created.
The creation will/would be announced in pertinent groups.



-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.fine.news.groups
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.architecture
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:40:22 GMT
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
: As long as we're being ambitious. . . I've been mulling a proposal to
: create a new top-level arts.* hierarchy, which would split the rec
: groups: the true rec groups would be the hobby and recreation
: groups, but groups on literature, movies, fine arts etc. would go to
: arts.  This idea was pressed on me by the proposal in news.groups
: for, was it rec.arts.architecture? and now alt.architecture.  It seems
: almost undeniable that (a) architecture is important enough to warrant
: a place on the net, (b) that putting it in rec is trivializing it.  On
: the other hand, sci seems wrong too--what's next, sci.painting,
: sci.composing, sci.calligraphy?  Sci is already overloaded--it is
: starting to become the haven for "serious" groups that don't fit in
: comp.  We need some sort of humanities or academic hierarchies (as
: has been brought up many times before).  For now, I would simply
: propose to start with arts.*, and would suggest that arts.architecture
: is a natural for it.  So what I'm thinking is to create
: alt.architecture on an interim basis, and to try to create the arts
: hierarchy.  If that fails, then we can try sci.

Are you proposing the entire rec.arts. hierarchy to be subsumed into arts?  I
can think of a few areas, like perhaps the rec.arts.sf. groups, that might be a
bit inappropriate for "arts", and would perhaps fit better in rec.sf. or
something.  While we're trashing the net...;-}

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"Just a moment before, I thought you had gone--you were lying so still..."
Current Album--Ann Mortifee:Baptism
Current Read--Robert Heinlein:The Past Through Tomorrow
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:41:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep07.191935.22113@NeoSoft.com> arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>In article <=xy1Hh=&h9@atlantis.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>> 
>> Oh, so you're saying that it applies to Disney movies, but only if they
>> are shown in the afternoon?  And if I read a Disney book, I can talk
>> about it there if i read it in the afternoon?
>
>Maybe you're not familiar with the term "Disney Afternoon."  It describes
>a block of afternoon programming, usually (but not always) shown in the 3pm 
>to 5pm time slot.

On TV.

>And anything relevent is game for discussion.  If a Disney Afternoon episode
>has a movie reference in it,

On TV.

>then yes, that movie is appropriate for discussion.
>Even non-DA programming is relevent.  A big topic is how Batman has been
>put into the Fox slot opposite Goof Troop in many markets (and in markets
>where FOX had the DA, then Goof Troop got bumped into a different time slot)
>and so there's a competition there.  So discussion of Batman is relevent.

So why even give the newsgroup a name relating to Disney?

>But you're grouping us because it's a Disney thing.  I think the fact that
>Disney produces these shows is incidental.  We're not necessarily fans of
>Disney, we're fans of these shows that happen to be produced by Disney and
>happen to be (mostly) shown in the afternoon.

On TV.  These arguments fail to convince me.

>Besides, this is the alt heirarchy so it doesn't really matter.  <wink>

Uh-huh.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.privacy
From: tomrice@netcom.com (Tom R. Rice)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.privacy.encryption
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 06:13:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

There are other techie privacy aids, such as spread-spectrum or
coherent CW radio communication schemes which render the very
signals difficult to detect.  This might be good for 
privacy-oriented hams, but would it be of general interest
on the net?
 
How tightly do you want to keep it focussed?  Personally, I'd
prefer to stick to the narrow view - encryption, codes, etc. 

-- 
"Start off every day with a smile and get it over with."  --W.C.Fields
Tom R. Rice   WB6BYH                   Holler Observatory - 
tomrice@netcom.com                     Longitude:  121 d  30 m  20 s W 
CIS: 71160,1122                        Latitude:    37 d  25 m  10 s N