HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: ignore this test
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:32:53 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

Howdy, Vince. I hope you get this.
-- 
Bruce Clarke       B.C. Environment
                   e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: misc.test
From: simon@moscow.uidaho.edu (Mike Simon)
Subject: Annother test
Organization: University of Idaho CS Dept.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:43:20 GMT

This is a test, day two.

Newsgroups: misc.test
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Official Staff Assoc. Announcement
Reply-To: jrs@Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:28:36 GMT

hi janet

Newsgroups: misc.test
From: cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens)
Subject: Re: Test
Organization: COW Pastures
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:10:46 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:
: cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:
: : cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:
: : : cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:
: : : : 	This is a test
: : : : -- 
: : : : Charles Stephens
: : : : cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
: : : : "And they say USENET is worthless..."  --Unknown
: : : -- 
: : : Charles Stephens
: : : cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
: : : "And they say USENET is worthless..."  --Unknown
: : -- 
: : Charles Stephens
: : cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
: : "And they say USENET is worthless..."  --Unknown
: -- 
: Charles Stephens
: cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
: "And they say USENET is worthless..."  --Unknown
-- 
Charles Stephens
cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
"And they say USENET is worthless..."  --Unknown
Newsgroups: misc.test
From: an8357@anon.penet.fi
Subject: testing...1..2..3..
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: misc.test
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:40:48 GMT


 Just testing this anonymous business !
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To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.
From: archmage@vnet.ibm.com (Clay Colwell)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:02:53 CST
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: This is a test.  A passing grade is mine to determine.
Reply-To: archmage@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin
Disclaimer: These are my opinions, not IBM's; I am not a corporation.
News-Software: UReply 3.1

Well, now, this looks different.  Let's see what it looks like
in the newsgroup.
Newsgroups: misc.test
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: foo
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ, USA
Distribution: scr
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 01:14:57 GMT


laskdf
From: tintin@cs.maroc.edu
Subject: test 100, please ignore
Newsgroups: misc.test
Organization: Why U want to kow
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:15:06 GMT

this is a test
please ignore

Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,alt.conspiracy
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: German Health Insurance "System" in 1/23 NYT
Followup-To: talk.politics.medicine
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Deep Space Nine (DS9)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:36:11 GMT


This Saturday's New York Times has a front page article on Germany's
health insurance system, consisting of 1,147 private and quasi-public
"sickness funds".  [The funds themselves (from what my girlfriend's
uncle, a doctor in Saarbrucken, Palatine) are interconnected into one
giant risk pool like the Canadian and French public health insurance,
thus functionally equivalent: real insurance paying private doctors,
and public and private hospitals.]  There seems to be more regulation
by the state compared to the Canadian/French systems, though, from the
Times's description ...

Interestingly, the NYT points out that the original "sickness funds"
concept was started by Prussian Chancellor Otto von Bismarck about 110
years ago as part of a policy to blow steam out of a growing Socialist
movement.

gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare
> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.EDU 		Carnaval de Quebec (City)
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			February 4 - 14
From: vpcsc11@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (student)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Supporters of Attack on Iraq Read This...
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:48:16 GMT
Distribution: misc.headlines
Organization: San Francisco State University


UN Lawyers Back Iraqi View - Attacks Not Authorized

The United Nations' legal department says it sees no language in
existing UN resolutions that would give the United States, Britain
and France authority to enforce the no-fly zones they have imposed
in Iraq - including the area involved in yesterday's [1/21/93]
incident.

The interpretation by the U.N legal staff, first reported
Wednesday, on whether the allies have authority to enforce the no-
fly zones came as a surprise and appears to bolster Iraq's case -
at least technically - that the coalition's actions may be illegal.

The allies traditionally have based their enforcement actions on
U.N. Security Council Resolution 688, which condemns the Iraqi
government's repression of minorities like the Kurds and Shiites. 
They argue that enforcement authority is inherent in the language
there.

But the UN interpretation is that because the resolution was not
enacted under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter, which authorizes the
use of force to maintain international peace and security, it
contains no enforcement power.

Even so, U.N. officials conceded yesterday that the advisory ruling
probably does not mean that the allies must stop using military
power to enforce the resolution.

"It's not our function... to tell a member state how to define a
resolution," one official said.

(Reprinted from SF Chronicle, 1/23/93, p. 2)
From: gurley@spectra.com (Jim Gurley)
Subject: Extreme points of view
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 04:32:04 GMT

Just a brief comment about radicals (left and right):

It's my (pretty simple minded) belief that "normal" is a state that
evolves only after a long period of "pulling" by radicals on both sides of
an issue.  As long as there are Duponts and GEs and USFSs acting in wonton
disregard of what any reasonable person would favor, there HAVE to be those
that (perhaps) over-react in the other direction.

I have a (great) dog, and I would fight to keep him, but I don't think
research where a monkey sits with his skull cap removed resonding to stimuli
is reasonable.  Therefore, I think PETA is serving an important purpose.

I think they should leave a few ancient forests, but I don't insist we stop
all lumber harvesting.  Therefore I think Earth First! serves an important
purpose.

I think killing rhinos for their horns or whales for (replaceable) oil is
wrong, and therefore GreenPeace has my support, even if I don't think
ramming nuclear convoy escorts is appropriate.

If everyone on the radical left disappeared tomorrow, I'd want to know how
they did it, because I wouldn't want to be left behind in a world driven by
the much more powerful (and lower profile) extremists from the right.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:00:17 EST
From: Jeff Brooks <JEFF@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Unusual
Distribution: na
 <7etY02B333aJ01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> <1993Jan25.120546.28615@osf.org>

In article <1993Jan25.120546.28615@osf.org>, Peter Neilson said:
>
>Other weird things happen, sometimes.  Let's see - there was this
>gelding who mounted a mare last year at a nearby farm.  We expect to
>see a little baby gelding any day now.

The stable near my parents' farm had a particularly nasty gelding that
wreaked havoc in the mares' field.  Finally one mare got sick and tired
of it all and lured said gelding verrrry seductively over.  When he
tried to mount, she kicked the living daylights out of him.  He never
bothered a mare again.  :-)

   Jeff

Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: jones@sj.ate.slb.com (Clark Jones)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on farm/general use truck 
Organization: Schlumberger ATE, San Jose
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 23:39:09 GMT

Victor W. Lovejoy (lovejoy@cantor.math.purdue.edu) wrote:
: Logic tells me that a Chevy 1/2 ton will haul 1/2 ton of stuff in it's bed
: just the way it comes off the showroom floor - no optional coolers or shocks
: needed. Am I right? We have a few months to decide on the vehicle we want
: and the place we want to buy it. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I was about to e-mail a reply, but decided to post instead so maybe better
informed folks can comment.

I may be wrong in this, but my impression was that a "1/2 ton pickup"
means 1/2 ton (1000 lbs) of anything that the engineers didn't design as part
of the truck, i.e., stuff in the bed, passengers, gasoline (in my truck, up
to 20 gallons at around 7 lbs/gallon, i.e., a bit over 140 lbs), stuff
in the glove box, tools and jumper cables behind the seat, dirt, etc.

Since I weigh about 200 lbs fully dressed, and carry maybe 10 lbs in the
glove box, and maybe another 30 lbs of stuff behind the seat, and allowing
another 20 lbs for dirt, the 2M Ham radio antenna, etc., that leaves about
600 lbs for stuff in the bed of my S-10.

If you want to put 1000 lbs in the bed, best go for a 3/4 ton job or else
maybe a remote control system and electric power with a *LONG* extension
cord!  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)

						Clark
--
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are mine and not those of Schlumberger
because they are NOT covered by the patent agreement!

Alternate reply path:  jones@sjs.sj.ate.slb.com
Phone: (602) 345-3638
Snail: Clark Jones, Schlumberger Technologies, 7855 S. River Pkwy #116, Tempe,
       AZ  85284-1825
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: the threat from animal-rights and environmentalists
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:14:51 -0800 (PST)
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: ikkoku-kan.panda.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Perhaps the single greatest threat to the rural way of life is that posed by
the animal-rights and environmentalist movement.  These people are evangelical
in their religion -- and it *is* a religion -- and are utterly intolerant of
any viewpoint which does not match their own.

The religious aspects of these movements can not be overlooked; although
allegedly they reject the Judeo-Christian ``man have dominance over all of
nature'' ethic, they have not replaced it with an Atheistic viewpoint (which
would be one of strict scientific rationality).  Rather, these movements
adhere to New Age mysticism, and are determined to sweep aside all infidels.

Here in the Pacific Northwest, farmers are under massive attack by these two
movements.  Ironically, these people are often the same ones who gather in
``celebration of rural life'' and sing insipid songs in praise of farming.
Typically, they're city people who have no idea what farming really is about.

We see two major forms of assault here.  The first is good old land-grabbing.
Throughout Western Washington, farmers are being told that their cow pastures
and fields are ``environmentally-sensitive wetlands'' or ``critical wildlife
habitat'' (in spite of having been used for farming for several decades) and
are confiscated.  A related cruel joke is ``open space'', which generally
translates to ``Because I built my house on the one acre next to you, you
can't do anything with your section because it tramples on my right to open
space.''

Another assault is the sentimentalism associated with deer and similar vermin.
Every time a dog brings down a deer, the rubber chicken hits the fan.  Not
praise for the lazy beast doing something useful to earn his Kibbles'N'Bits,
but rather horror over poor Bambi's fate.

What can we do?  First, we need to realize that this *is* a religious cult.
They are not on the side of science.  They accept only gloom & doom
predictions of what would happen if their dictates are not followed, and will
utterly ignore any evidence to the contrary.  Second, the effectiveness of
their propaganda can not be underestimated.  ``Global Warming'' has become
fixed in the minds of the general population as a ``proven fact'' even though
it is no such thing.  More people believe in global warming than in evolution;
yet evolution is verified scientific fact and global warming is at best a
hypothesis.  Similiar nonsense exists about the supposed intelligence and
living conditions of whales; they live remarkably violent and brutal lives in
a strict dominance hierarchy, yet the New Ages call them ``gentle giants''.

We need to counter their propaganda and reclaim the scientific high ground in
the public's eye, or we'll become extinct.
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: enenkel@cs.toronto.edu (Robert Frederick Enenkel)
Subject: Re: Septic System Issues???
Summary: book
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:17:36 GMT

awang@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Angus Wang - Sun NC Development Center) writes:
> I was born & raised on city water and have no idea about wells &
> septic systems.  

I have city water too, but I might try drilling a well for fun.  You
might see if you can find the TAB book "Wells and Septic Systems" by Max
and Charlotte Alth (Revised by S. Blackwell Duncan).  It has lots of 
practical info.     Robert Enenkel
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: bailebn@mail.auburn.edu (Bliss Bailey)
Subject: Re: Power Company Easement
Reply-To: bailebn@mail.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:19:06 GMT

In article HrB@hpuerca.atl.hp.com, der@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Dave Ritchie) writes:
>I would *not* give them a broad easement - I would very specific limitations
>regarding what kind, quantity and voltage of lines that could be run. Why
>are they requesting this? Are they offering compensation for it?

In Alabama, there is not a whole lot you can do in terms of stopping the
Power Company from taking an easement.  They will ask nicely, and work with
you for awhile, but if it comes down to it, they will take it to court, and
you pretty much lose your ability to negotiate with them.  I would suggest
that you negotiate for what you can while negotiation is possible, and 
they are willing to work with you.

Bliss

--
_____________________________________________________________________
Bliss Bailey                                          144 Parker Hall
Network Support Specialist                      Auburn University, AL
Auburn University, AL                                           36849
bailebn@mail.auburn.edu                                  205-844-4512
_____________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: broy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Barbara Roy)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on farm/general use truck 
Reply-To: broy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu
Organization: U. of Iowa - Weeg Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:40:45 GMT

Vic,

A half ton Chevy should have no trouble hauling 1000-1500 pounds of feed and
hay without any beefing up necessary. If you only have two horses, I doubt
you would ever need to haul more than that at a time. I myself have 18
horses and ponies and haul about 1000 pounds of grain every two weeks with
no trouble. In fact, I can haul 400 pounds of grain in the trunk of my
Ford Festiva! 

Personally, if I weren't doing any horse hauling, I'd prefer a smaller pickup
like a Ford Ranger or Dodge Dakota. They should be able to handle hauling
grain and hay occasionnaly, but wouldn't be up to the task of hauling a 
trailer. Pulling a trailer is MUCH harder on the vehicle than hauling in
the truck bed.

Barbara Roy
Barbara Roy                                Internet: Barbara-Roy@uiowa.edu
Weeg Computing Center
University of Iowa
Iowa City, IA. 52242
From: camelsho@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (   James A Seymour)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Strange Idea
Date: 22 Jan 1993 09:56:17 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I'm sure that this is a strange question, but.....

What would it take to breed swine into a longer
limbed, and consequently taller, bigger breed?

I know that horses have been bred into miniature, but has
anybody done work the other way with pigs?

james seymour/camel/camelsho@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Xref: sparky misc.rural:2869 ba.mountain-folk:367
From: kathryn@Apple.COM (Kathryn Vandiver)
Newsgroups: misc.rural,ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: Road Maintenance
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:23:57 GMT
Followup-To: misc.rural
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <30901@toad.com> ktk@toad.com.UUCP (Katy Kislitzin) writes:
>Hello--
>
>As you have heard, California has had a lot of rain recently.  Our
>road is holding up quite well, but I am concerned about a few places.
>The water flows alongside the hill side of the road and runs under in
>culverts in various places along the road.  My concern is that the
>road is getting eaten away in a few places on the uphill side, where
>the water is supposed to run.  I would like to know what I can do to
>prevent further wear, since I am sure we have not seen the last of the
>rain for this year ;-)  And where do I get the stuff to do it with?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>--kt
>

Hi Katy,
we have the same problem along the side of our house. We recently put on
our leather gloves and drove to some of the rock slides along Hwy 9 and 
Bear Creek. We gathered up larger rocks (about 6-8 inches in diameter) and
put them next to the asphalt and the ditch. This has helped temendously,
however, we need to make about 10 more trips for rock collecting before the
winter is thru  :-( . 

Kathryn.
ps. Just how are those llama of your???   :-)
From: ahill@boi.hp.com (Andy Hill)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Strange Idea
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:30:08 GMT
Reply-To: ahill@boi.hp.com
Distribution: na
Organization: LaserJets by Bill & Dave
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Robert Frederick Enenkel (enenkel@cs.toronto.edu) wrote:
> Not all that strange.  I know there are papers on breeding Carp for
> reduced number of intramuscular bones.  If I remember correctly, all
> they did there was to select the most favourable individuals and breed 
> them together, then do the same with their offspring, etc.  This is
> also the process that produced Koi (Japanese Coloured Carp) from common
> carp, the occasional natural mutation of which had some colouration.
> 
> Isn't that the only way to produce desired traits in any animal? 
> (Except, I suppose, by doing strange things to the DNA using radiation...)
> 
Even then, you'd still have to select for the desired traits.  Radiating the
gametes would just increase the number of available mutations.  Also, there
is some gene-splicing work going on, although the only practical applications
that I'm familiar with involve bacteria.  Hold onto your seats, 'though,
gene-spliced mammals probably aren't too far off.
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: brucej@mentorg.com (Bruce Johnson)
Subject: Re: Raised Beds on leach lines. 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:25:20 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <C1F5nH.Mq3@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, jefftb@sr.hp.com (Jeff Brown) writes:
|>   
|>   Does anyone out there see problem with putting raise beds for gardening
|>   on the septic sysem leach lines? I'm not covering the tank or any dist-
|>   ribution boxes. The lines are fairly deep.
|> 
|>   Thanks 
|>   Jeff Brown

I do.  From my nieve understanding: your leach lines are buried at a
particular depth depending on your perc.  If you put more material
on top of your leach lines, you'll be changing your perc.  The tank's
actually the best thing to cover, all you really need access to is
"the lid".

Correct me if I'm wrong...

brucej@mentorg.com
From: krause@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Mike Krause)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Road Maintenance
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:44:33 GMT
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA

/ hpindda:misc.rural / kathryn@Apple.COM (Kathryn Vandiver) /  5:23 pm  Jan 21, 1993 /
>our leather gloves and drove to some of the rock slides along Hwy 9 and 
>Bear Creek. We gathered up larger rocks (about 6-8 inches in diameter) and
>put them next to the asphalt and the ditch. This has helped temendously,
>however, we need to make about 10 more trips for rock collecting before the
>winter is thru  :-( . 


The stuff off of Bear Creek is Monterey Shale and not rock.  It will break
down with the rain much faster than the other rock described.  BTW, some of
that shale you picked up probably came from my land and I would like it back.
:):).
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: neilson@pmin28.osf.org (Peter Neilson)
Subject: Re: Unusual
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:05:46 GMT

In article <7etY02B333aJ01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> dfs30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Denise Solis) writes:
>I have an unusual question to pose to those of you out in the country.
>Have any of you seen UFOs or unidentified lights in the sky? How about
>crop  circles?

Lights?  We've got airplanes, lots of airplanes at night.  I've stared
at a huge rising planet for minutes, until I figured out it was rising
in the WEST, and then started to blink red and green lights.  Those
are IFOs, though, and not what you wanted.

One day I -heard- a twin-engine plane overhead, but looked up and
-saw- only a single-engine plane.  Maybe I was seeing an an
-invisible- UFO?  No such luck, it was an old Ford tri-motor, looks
like a single-engine until you see that there are really THREE
engines.

Our horses see unidentified lurking objects (ULOs).  "That rock at the
side of the road has Something That Eats Horses behind it, and I'm not
going anywhere near it," says Velvet, our generally sensible 13-year-
old mare.

Other weird things happen, sometimes.  Let's see - there was this
gelding who mounted a mare last year at a nearby farm.  We expect to
see a little baby gelding any day now.




-- 
     "Tangled in hairy explanations?  Use a razor!"  --William of Occam
             >>>  Peter Neilson  --- neilson@osf.org  <<<
Quote changed daily.  If you've seen this one before, burn your calendar.
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on farm/general use truck 
Organization: Maple Lawn Farm, Stonington, CT
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:19:07 GMT

Victor W. Lovejoy writes:

   [...] will a Chevy 1500 be strong enough to haul hay and feed?
   I've heard that in order to haul the 1/2 ton the truck is rated
   for, special coolers and suspension will be needed.  

A 1/2 ton truck, like a Chevy 1500, should easily haul a 1/2 ton of
hay or grain without any special equipment.  If you're sure that's all
you'll be carrying, you can probably get by with a V-6, which will do
wonders for your gas mileage on commutes.  You can carry more than 1/2
ton in a 1/2 ton truck, but if you're going to haul heavy loads often,
especially on hilly terrain, you may want multi-ply truck tires, a
heavy-duty suspension package, a transmission cooler, and even a V-8.
Overloaded trucks don't handle well, overloaded tires wear fast, and
transmissions don't take well to overheating.

Every truck is a trade-off.  A 1/2 ton pickup is relatively
economical, and rides more like a car.  But fifty bales of packed
alfalfa hay can weight 2500 pounds, and grain is cheaper if you buy a
ton at a time.  Loads like that, or a bed full of firewood, call for a
3/4 ton truck, with heavy tires and suspension, a transmission oil
cooler, and if you've got any hills around, a big V-8.  We routinely
haul a ton and a half of fertilizer or a ton of sheep in our Chevy
2500; we can pull two loaded haywagons up hills.  The downside is that
I should have invested in oil company stocks when we bought the truck:
the 5.7 V-8 gets no more than 17-18 mpg on the road with no load.
-- 

				Ronald Florence
				ron@mlfarm.com
Newsgroups: misc.rural