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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:02:00 CDT
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From:         SCHWARZ@UOFMCC.BITNET
Subject:      Stat City Update

[Also posted to Stat-L network].

Thank you to all who responded to my queries.

As indicated, Stat City is the title of a book where H. Gitlow
used a hypothetical city to teach the concepts of statistics.
It is called "Stat City. Understanding Statistics through
realistic applications", and was published by Irwin. My copy is dated
1982, one reader indicates their copy was dated 1986, but books in
print does not list the book.
My primary interest was in the database of 1373 households (along
with a map of the location of the dwelling units) for use in
a class on sampling theory and methods.

The book is out of print, but
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was kind enough to send me a file containing all the relevant
variables for all the dwelling units.
He has graciously agreed to send copies to other users via the
BITNET network. If you are on INTERNET, he asks that you contact
him with instructions on how to send over INTERNET.

On the same vein, an article in the August 1992 issue of American
Statistican "Teaching survey sampling usig simulation" describes
a similar effort. The authors give instructions on how to
obtain their program and examples via e-mail.

Once again, thanks to all members who responded to my query.

Carl J. Schwarz    SCHWARZ @ CCM.UMANITOBA.CA
Department of Statistics
University of Manitoba    (204) 474-6275   fax: (204)-275-5011
From: jerry@nutmeg.hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
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Subject: Re: ASA Membership
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:53:57 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <9209081702.AA51086@lamar.ColoState.EDU>, boardman@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU (Tom Boardman) writes:
> I believe it is time for asa to
> consider new ways of attracting members.  Of course
> members will not join asa unless they feel they are
> getting something worthwhile.  What should that be?
> Who should join asa and for what reasons.
> 
If we could back up a bit, is the problem *attracting* members or *retaining*
members?  Every issue of the AmStat News contains the names of scores of new 
members.  From that standpoint, growth seems healthy.

How many members (%) fail to renew their memberships after 1 year,
2 years, etc.  Does the old saw about publishing papers apply here?:  "No one
publishes two papers over the course of his/her career.  People either publish
1 or many."  If a member renews, is (s)he likely to "never" leave?
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Reply-To:     Tom Boardman <boardman@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
From:         Tom Boardman <boardman@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      ASA Membership Team

The ASA Board of Directors has created four teams in
preparation for a Board Planning Day in early December.
I am the "team leader" of the team that is looking
into membership issues.  Our team will write a position
paper by the beginning of November to be sent to all
Board members and a few others who will be attending the
planning day.

I am sending this note to the Edstat list in the hopes
that some of you may have ideas about asa membership.
Subject to the rules of EDSTAT, anything and everything
concerning membership in asa of fair game.  The task of
the Board Team is to consider all aspects of membership,
although the three other teams are studying publications,
quantitative literacy, and statistical thinking.

There is a saying that is going around these days; "If
you always do what you always did, you'll always get
what you always got."  I believe it is time for asa to
consider new ways of attracting members.  Of course
members will not join asa unless they feel they are
getting something worthwhile.  What should that be?
Who should join asa and for what reasons.

For example the Quantitative Literacy Project that is
jointly sponsored by asa and one of the math teacher
societies has trained some 3000 HS teachers in
methods of using statistical concepts in HS.  How do
we offer them a membership in asa that is meaningful?

(Note:  The asa is not in a financial position to
"give" much away.  Our current situation is now back
in the black, but just barely.)

Ideas?  Send them directly to me or through EDSTAT is
you wish.  That might generate others to respond.

Thank you for your input.  I remain... Tom Boardman

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From:         "TSGT Rusty Haley;2852 SPS/SPPC" <haley@LOGDIS1.SM.AFLC.AF.MIL>
Subject:      RE:E-mail addresses of Congresspeople.
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Comments: cc: INFONETS@uga.cc.uga.edu

Jeffery,

The following is from "RESULTS of the FIRST INTERNET HUNT !!!"

10. (6)  Could you tell me how I can find the Washington address
for the congressman from my district?

Winner's Answer
(6) Via WAIS I identified the Congress file from pit.mit.edu,
    and identified Robert J. Lagomarsino as the
    Rep from District including Santa Barbara.
    His Washington address is:
    2332 Rayburn
    Washington DC 20515

Other Answers:
(6) telnet to info.umd.edu
    /Government/US/Congress/sens+reps-detail

(5) ftp pit-manager.mit.edu
    cd pub/activism/congress
    get the two letter code for your state.

(4) ftp from pit-manager.mit.edu:
    pub/wais-indices/congress.doc


Rusty,

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From:         Chris Wooff <QQ43@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: about whois.
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On 15 Sep 92 13:24:15 +0200 S90405184@NL.HSE.hsepm1 said:

>I know about the whois service at nic.ddn.mil (com? edu?)
>I tried to look up Soviet connections and information about
>2Soviet sites.
>whois dom su    doesn't reply with anything about the SU domain.
Not quite true. In fact it gives 2 entries, but the first is for
"Solutions Unlimited" who presumably collarred "SU" first!
The second entry (and the one you are looking for) has the
handle SU1-DOM.

If you do:
  Whois !su1-dom
then you should obtain the information you are looking for.

Chris Wooff

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 userid@mcimail.com will work fine (userid being the seven digit mci mailbox
 number)
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From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: How to reach Intertel
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:47:44 GMT

Shahjehan Khatri <IDSAK@ASUACAD.BITNET>
writes on bit.listserv.infonets:

)One of my patrons said that he wanted to send a note to
)some_user@Intertel.com.  I could not find any entry for
)Intertel with either NSLookup or Whois at NIC.DDN.MIL.

It is inter-tel.com on DNS and intertel on UUCP.  (I used the WAIS
database uumap to know if intertel was an entry)

Try a whois search using "domain inter-tel" for administrative
contacts.

Server:  asuvax.EAS.ASU.EDU
Address:  129.219.30.5

Non-authoritative answer:
inter-tel.com	preference = 10, mail exchanger = enuucp.eas.asu.edu

)  Shahjehan Khatri
)  Khatri@PCMAIL.INRE.ASU.EDU

Sridhar.
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From:  kav@welding.spb.su (kav)
Subject: Message for Sam Berzin <SAMB@UCSFVM.BITNET> from Russia
Reply-To: kav@welding.spb.su
Organization: JV SVARKA-WELDING (St. Petersburg)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:38:57 GMT


Dear Mr. Berzin!

I was sent my letter 8th September,but I haven't received your
replay. Afraid, that to associate with hindrance on our line.
Therefore,I repeat my wishes.
I am needing commercial information about:

1. Wholesale price on FOOD,HOUSEHOLD GOODS,SIGARETT,WINE
   and Firm for delivering these goods.

2. Information  about firm and saleman to sale work of art.

3. Information  about firm and businessman are wishe 
   business contact with  Russia.

Waiting for you kind reply,I remain, Andrej Kulik <kav@welding.spb.su>



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From:         "BERTON_CORSON@mcimail.com" <70473.1567@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Weather Info and/or Warning Lists?
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With scores of hurricanes that have hit the U.S. recently (Florida,
Louisiana, Guam, and now Hawaii this evening) I was wondering if
anyone out there knows of lists that issue any sort of automated
weather warnings, or current atmospheric/weather conditions from
portions of the world.  Any information on weather lists would be
appreciated, although once I know of such a list, I doubt I would
hang around my computer to read incoming e-mail, to find out whether
an incoming hurricane is about to destroy my house.  TV and radio
are still probably the best information, for when you're in a storm's
path.

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Subject:      Subscribe

Subscribe Gerry_Przybyszewski
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Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 08:45:17 MST
From: Shahjehan Khatri <IDSAK@ASUACAD.BITNET>
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Subject: How to reach Intertel

One of my patrons said that he wanted to send a note to
some_user@Intertel.com.  I could not find any entry for
Intertel with either NSLookup or Whois at NIC.DDN.MIL.

Can you please help?

Thanks.

  Shahjehan Khatri
  Khatri@PCMAIL.INRE.ASU.EDU
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From:         Daniel Burstein <0001964967@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      sending to MCIMAIL
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to: Humoud, "s10e001@saksu00.bitnet"

you asked about sending from BITNET to MCIMAIL.  Easy to do
(since I'm an MCIMAIL customer)..

You need the persons MCIMAIL "name" (in my case, it's DBURSTEIN).
if they have a common and duplicated name (ie. JSMITH for John Smith),
then you'll need their actual distinctive NUMERICAL id.

Then, to send, you give your mailer an "address" like mine:
to:  DBURSTEIN@MCIMAIL.COM
or:  (numerical id)@MCIMAIL.COM

you can mix UPPER and lower case.

take care
danny

<dburstein@mcimail.com>
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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:45:08 EDT
From: Peter M. Weiss <PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu>
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send the following to listserv@ndsuvm1 or @vm1.nodak.edu
(do NOT include signatures)

//ListSrch JOB Echo=no
Database Search DD=Rules
//Rules DD *
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index list.8 node.8 title.62
search weather in new-list
print
search weather in intgroup
index #.6 subject.72
From: dave@macdavid.han.de (David C Long)
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Subject: Re: Access to Alternex or Geo2
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 15:36:25 MET
Organization: Hannover, W. Germany
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In article <9209031454.AA19070@Early-Bird.Think.COM> (Info-Nets@Think.Com), you write:
> I am trying to communicate with an office in Santiago, Chile.  Their
> office uses the Alternex and/or Geo2 network.

Dear David,

If geo2 refers to the geo2 (London, UK) host of the GeoMail network, then
this should work: 

userid@dcfgn2.das.net

because GeoMail users are automatically users of the DASnet gateway
service.

Dave 

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:57:24 BST
From:         Francis Rysavy x3292 <frysavy@MRC-CRC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: "Re: Constitution of Slovak republic"

>
> Jan Szelepcsenyi wrote:
>       (deleted)
> >     As I  could learn from your  address you are working  at the
> >     Slovak Academy of Sciences  - the highest research institute
> >     in Slovakia.  I suppose if you  enter the area of  policy or
> >     history  you  have  to  keep   the  same  rules  saving  the
> >     objectivity  and  validity  of  information  provide by you.
> >     Otherwise you are in danger  to sell poison as an "innocent"
> >     drug.
>       (deleted)
>
>      Only a short comment: It is  personal attack, or not? I have
> recognized that it is typical  for nationalists in Slovakia. That
> is why I cannot support them.  It is too dangerous for the future
> of   our   common   state   (the   state   of   nationalists  and
> non-nationalists).
> Martin Masek, Bratislava

I beg everyone in this discussion to "bat the problems, not the
persons", please !  We will have to live peacefully and cooperate in the
united Europe in the future, I hope. May be that it is a question of
language and background but I am finding rather contraproductive to
accuse someone in a generic way of "selling poison as an "innocent"
drug". If this were so, I would prefere to be more specific.

Kind Regards, Francis R.Rysavy, UK, Harrow

If I am not mistaken, forgive me for any misspeling,

"Slobody kto hoden, slobodu zna vaziti kazdou"
Jan Kollar, Slavy cera
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:08:16 +0100
From:         KUBASKA@CSBBYS51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: "Re: Constitution of Slovak republic"

I recall there was some list of people in NECENZUROVANE NOVINY, the Prague
newspaper, but I'm afraid it wasn't the one our democrats have in mind.

  Marian Kubaska
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 11:06:46 CDT
From:         Raju Dandu <NU172523@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Is there any e-mail address to Kosice ?

Dear Friends:
             A student from Slovakia is attending the North Dakota State
University, in Fargo, ND. I am very happy to welcome Mr. Peter Kmec. I
request the netters to help us find an e-mail address to Kosice.

Thank you.

My e-mail address: Nu172523@NDSUVM1              Raju Dandu
                                                 College of Engr & Arch.
                                                 North dakota State Univ.
                                                 Fargo, ND 58102
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:19:39 MESZ
From:         Anton Jusko <R00JUS@DHHDESY3.BITNET>
Subject: re: ""re: constitution of slovak republic""

>
> Jan Szelepcsenyi wrote:
>       (deleted)
> >     As I  could learn from your  address you are working  at the
> >     Slovak Academy of Sciences  - the highest research institute
> >     in Slovakia.  I suppose if you  enter the area of  policy or
> >     history  you  have  to  keep   the  same  rules  saving  the
> >     objectivity  and  validity  of  information  provide by you.
> >     Otherwise you are in danger  to sell poison as an "innocent"
> >     drug.
>       (deleted)
>
>      Only a short comment: It is  personal attack, or not? I have

If this is to be CFV, I vote: NOT
(If you want to call it somehow, perhaps 'defence' would be more
suitable)

> recognized that it is typical  for nationalists in Slovakia. That
> is why I cannot support them.  It is too dangerous for the future
> of   our   common   state   (the   state   of   nationalists  and
> non-nationalists).
> Martin Masek, Bratislava
> 
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 09:21:19 +0200
From:         Jan Szelepcsenyi <janszel@POSEN.MFF.UNIBA.CS>
Subject:      "Re: Constitution of Slovak republic"

Henry Kucera once wrote....

>>>  The interesting thing about the preamble to the Constitution is its
>>   beginning:
>>> "My, narod slovensky..." (We, the Slovak nation...). Apparently, this
 wording
>>>  replaced an earlier draft which said  "We, the citizens of Slovakia..."
>>>  Before the final vote, the Hungarian members of the parliament walked out.
>>>
>>>  I offer this just for your information, with no comment. H.K.
>>>
>>
>>The preamble includes BOTH formulations, thus expressing both nation AND
>>citizens as principles of fundamental importance, and includes
>>nationalities and ethnic groups as well:
>>
>>The order chosen is said to be based on the UN Constitution which
>>acknowledges right of nations to selfdetermination, but not of groups of
>>citizens.
>>
>>I offer this just for your information, no comment.
>>
>>P.Navrat


>That's really nice. And the ungrateful members of the ethnic minorities do
>not even appreciate it. They offered numerous amendments, lost and eventually
>walked out in protest. How strange. Moreover, they issued a statement today
>worrying about their rights. Somebody should tell them how lucky they are.


You have to search more in the background of the behavior of the Hungarians
at the political scene of Czecho-Slovakia.

The Hungarians aren't worrying because of their minority rights,
but because of their cultural privilegies. Does anybody of you
know, that in Slovakia the Hungarians are publishing 15
(fifteen) dailies, weeklies, journals, which are sponsored from
the state budget? They don't realize, that the transformation
process of Czecho-Slovak economy would lead to a restriction
of the state support for such cultural activities, independent
if the state would be separated or not. Simply said, it's an
result of economical necessity, not a question of good will or
a bad constitution.

In the same way is the state behaving not only to minorities,
but to the Czech or Slovak nation, too. Of course, it doesn't
mean the abruption of all financial support to cultural
activities of minorities. But the state may spend only those
money which it has.


>They need a teacher, I think.
>
>H.K.

Mr Kucera, it sounds like an obsession. Or in the underground of
your consciousness is acting a very, very bad experience from
your childhood. Having this problems I would consult my
psychoanalyst...


Jan

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Jan Szelepcsenyi                        	Telephone: + 42 7 220863
janszel@posen.mff.uniba.cs              	Address  : ul. A. Mraza 4
                                                	   821 03 Bratislava
							   Czechoslovakia
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:27:24 +0100
From:         KUBASKA@CSBBYS51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Slovak national interests

>What about education? Not necessary?
Of course yes.

>Which of these four interests their works betray?
Everybody is free to make his own oppinion. I end up with discussion about
unimportant issues by my previous posting. THe answer to your question would
rise the discussion again.

Marian Kubaska
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:19:59 +0100
From:         KUBASKA@CSBBYS51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Slovak national interests

1 .....Stability of political system
     Since we accepted the democratic way of solving problems I hope,that
     everybody agree that this is the very basement of democracy in our
     situation.
     That means:
             3 or 4 parties in parliament. (Not poland way)
             3/5 majority able to find agreement over the basic issues
             trust of the majority of the citizens to goverment and parliament
             criticism (not destruction) of the goverment and parl. by the press
   2 .....New law system
             New constitution of SR (already done)
             Reconstruction of entire law system (economical,criminal,...)
3 ......Reconstruction and Privatisation of economy.
              To avoid dirty money to take part in privatisation.
              To avoid monopolisation.
              To avoid to sell enterprices for dumpind prices.
4 ......New defence doctrine and secret service.
              Don't let the diletants to enter secret service.
              Use up the former STB agents (not from district for fight
               with inner enemy)
              To define the allies of SR to define war doctrine.


Marian Kubaska
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