From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa.constitution,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: [alt.censorship et al] Government in action
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:27:29 GMT
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In article <C19v4H.Atu@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Timothy.J.Young@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young) writes:

> In article <1993Jan23.021519.2449@nntp.hut.fi>
> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
> 
> > 
> > As I tried to explain the other day to the Martian anthropologist who was
> > writing a paper on our legal system, there are two types of criminals,
> > 
> > 	A) the kind that seek out unsuspecting, unconsenting victims and
> > 	   perpetrate violences upon their persons and properties
> > 
> > 	B) the kind whose victims have to seek them out and pay them to
> > 	   perpetrate their crimes upon them
> > 
> > Our legal and law enforcement system devotes most of its time, effort, talent
> > and (taxpayer supplied) money to tracking down, entrapping, and imprisoning
> > group B while claiming itself too short-handed and under-funded to do much
> > about group A.  While doing this they also make criminals out of, and
> > devote considerable of their scarce time and resources to hunting down and
> > entrapping any citizens who would attempt to exercise their constitutional
> > right to effective technological self defense.
> 
> Very interesting. More paranoia from the plutocracy. Let's be frank
> here : the main purpose of the legal system is to protect the rich from
> the poor. Gary Fannon, currently serving life in a Michigan prison, is
> a working-class boy who was convicted of "conspiracy to sell over 650g
> of cocaine" (he didn't even posess the cocaine in question) and
> sentenced according to Michigan's 650 Lifer Law. I'd personally like to
> see white-collar criminals like those described in the quoted article
> and Michael Milken, Ivan Boesky, et. al. to be sentenced to life and
> put into maximum security prisons. 
> What do you think those riots in LA were all about? Rodney King? Ice
> Cube? Sorry to destroy right-wing fantasy here, but the people of South
> Central by and large have virtually no chance at advancement in life,
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So if I have no chance at advancement in life and you do, does that
make it right for me to club you, burn down your stores, steal from
you, etc.?
> and they know it. Every word Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, or William
> Buckley ever wrote isn't going to change that. I'll put it this way :
> capitalist policy (especially Reaganite supply-side economics) was the
> gasoline and the Rodney King verdict was the match. 

All the Korean immigrants who came to this country and worked their
asses off (even under Reaganomics) to succeed as well as they did
deserved to have the blacks of South Central LA destroy their
property??  As these Koreans have shown, it is possible to succeed
while working within the system.
> So before complaining about how hard the justice system is on
> white-collar criminals, take a look at the big picture. The more the
> rich get richer, the more the poor get poorer, the more violence you
> will see in this country. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Young - Dartmouth College, Class of 1996
> (The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of Dartmouth
> College or Dartmouth students(read the Review lately?))
Unfortuanely these probably are the opinions of a Dartmouth
administration which is massively out of touch with its students.


--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
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