From: dean@unkaphaed.UUCP (Dean Saxe)
Newsgroups: news.admin,alt.sex.bondage,alt.censorship,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Subject: Re: "Computers graphic when it comes to porn"
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 03:46:33 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold) writes:

> In article <1992Jul21.164722.252@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> colin@eecg.toronto.
> >Actually, a wider audience would probably be interested in this.
> >It appeared in the Globe and Mail, Monday July 20 1992.
> >
> >I wrote a letter to the editor complaining about mixing up the Internet
> >and Usenet, and Ray Johns' "monkey see, monkey do" estimation of
> >people.  It's been posted to alt.sex.bondage.
> >
> >Anyway, enjoy.  (Reposted to alt.sex.bondage so people there will see the
> >followups; it's no extra bandwidth.)
> >-- 
> >	-Colin
> 
> 
> Here we go. More censorship. This gets to be insane after a while. People
> telling us what we can look at what we can watch on TV what we can see in
> the movies. I agree with the point of not letting children see or read
> alt.sex.* and I also feel that child pornography is absolutly wrong but what
> about adults that wish to see this. Correct me if I am wrong but I do belive
> that those who attend universities are of legal age. I know all my friends
> where. If one does not like it don't read it or look at it. Just like TV if
> you don't like the  content don't watch it. turn it off or change the channel
> but let those who wish to read or see or watch this type of thing should be
> able to. I feed  another site and these groups are VERY popular. Even though
> I get alt.sex.* on my machine I CHOOSE not to read it. I DO NOT feel that
> one should be censored because others feel it ofensive. Does anyone else
> agree with my ideas. 
> 
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Two quick comments on Scott's post.  One, there are many countries in the 
world connected to Usenet that have much more relaxed rules about porn 
and child porn that the USA or Canada do, especially those countries in 
Europe.  Secondly don't make the assumption that all the people on Usenet 
are of legal age.  I personally started college at 16, I know people who 
started at 13 or younger.  All of these people have the same access you 
do, it just turned out that I didn't find Alt.Sex.* till after I was 18.  
And there are many people out there who have access to alt.sex heirarchy 
though private bulletin boards which carry usenet groups.  If someone 
wants to get to the heirarchy he/she can very easily, and without much 
money or an account at a college or work.  I am not saying I am against 
censorship, but I believe that those places which do allow access to such 
newsgroups shoul make sure the people who are using them are of legal age 
and realize what is in the content of the newsgroups.

                                Dean

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