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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Creation of rec.arts.comics.sandman replies
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:34:27 GMT

In <1992Dec15.210541.841@zooid.guild.org> ecurrent@zooid.guild.org (Greg Clow) writes:
>mikecap@weierstrass.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>>>>It seems to me that Sandman is a big enough topic to deserve its own
>>>>newsgroup.  Anyone know how to go about doing this?
>>First off, there is hardly enough traffic for the creation of a Sandman
>>newsgroup, it would just be wasting bandwidth, and at times when it is
>>not popular, it would be dead air.
>Although I don't agree totally (there are a hell of a lot of Sandman posts 
>on a fairly regular basis), I can see your point to an exent.  A 
>compromise would perhaps be rec.arts.comics.vertigo, which would encompass 
>discussion all of DC's "mature readers" titles that will be under the 
>Vertigo imprint as of January.  

My own opinion is that the namespace is splintered enough, really.

I have no problem dealing with a global select on Sandman in the posting
title, and then killing individual threads if they get tiresome.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
   and it seems your eternal reward is to hang out in heaven eternally bored
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: The Truth about Neil (was: Re: Another Gaiman short story) 
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:11:52 GMT

tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.010054.11704@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
> >
> >Since there seems to be some interest in Neil Gaiman's non-comic work
> >I thought I'd point out that he has a short story in a recent collection.
> >"Troll Bridge" appears in _Snow White, Blood Red_, edited by Ellen Datlow
> >and Terri Windling, from AvoNova/Morrow. The book is a series of stories
> >inspired by familiar children's tales. $22 in hardcover.
> >
> Well, it's about time this little wonder came out of the closet.  Our man
> Mr. Gaiman, during The Dark Years (TM) penned a little work called:
> 	Duran Duran:  The first four years of the Fab Five.

He also Penned the official Fanbook to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galazy.  Good reading, if you're into the series...
-- 
This is my sig file.
From: byron@wet.COM (Byron C. Go)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Whither _Signal to Noise_?
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:33:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Delirium Fan Club

Whatever happened to Gaiman and McKean's _Signal to Noise_?  I was led to
believe it would ship in early fall.  Then I return from a long trip overseas
to find... nothing at the store.  All they could tell me was "It's not here
yet."  Is this true?  And is there a new ETA for the thing?

     byron  (:
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Gaiman-McKean comic
Date: 20 Dec 1992 06:02:39 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
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In article <1992Dec18.004638.9560@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@atto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
)OK, the book in question is Signal to Noise. The American version is
)supposed to be from Dark Horse.
)
)Now, I haven't seen it yet and it wasn't on the list that the distributor
)sent out this week. As far as I know, it has not come out yet. Has anyone 
)found a Dark Horse copy yet? 
)---------------------------
) Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith 

	I just got mine today. I haven't yet decided whether I liked the
story, but the artwork is wonderful. (Dave McKean painting the Four Horsemen
of the Apocalypse is worth the price of the book in itself.) I highly
recommend it to everyone except Michael Rawdon.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          | 
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |      "Hey, mister! Your ninja's dragging!" 
goldfarb@UCBOCF.BITNET     |
From: ganderso@ems.cdc.com (Gary Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Spawn Question
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:00:45 GMT
Reply-To: ganderso@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

I used to consider myself fairly observant and somewhat
intelligent but now question that.  Does anyone who reads Spawn
know what the heck those numbers with colons are for?

  ex:  8:0:3:1

I can't figure out a pattern.

Thanks,   
Gary
Mpls. MN
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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: Superman's death--reasons
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:12:57 EST

In article <2280@hsdndev.UUCP>
burns@thurifer.harvard.edu (John A. Burns) writes:
 
>
>
>   I had been thinking of Superman's death as an extremely
>cynical marketing ploy by DC.  But then I got to thinking,
>maybe they plan to use this event like Marvel used the death
>of Jean Grey to revive the X-Men, which led to the current
>X-books mania.  Perhaps DC is just suffering from Phoenix envy.
 
Ouch.  Then again, what do you expect from a Harvard guy?  :-)
 
 
 
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From: bragg@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Aquatic Joe)
Subject: Re: Galactus goes DOWN!...AGAIN!!!
Keywords: Planetary Buleimia
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: cosmic
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:24:11 GMT

In article <168B6127A4.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> mason writes:
 
>It is fairly well established that destroying Galactus isn't an
>option.  He's as necessary to the universe's balance as Death and
>Eternity.  I'm not quite clear as to exactly why, though.

	Well, gee if there's some planet that's just lying around and not 
doing a whole hell of a lot then Galactus serves his purpose!  Mind you that
the rule here is that no one can miss the planet.  As a result, Earth, and 
all those other planets that fight with X-Men/FF/Avengers can't be eaten...it
would cut into sales...



-- 
Adam Bragg                  | 
bragg@freezer.cns.udel.edu  |      Please let go of my cape...
darkwing@ravel.udel.edu     |                           -Batman
                          SPOON!
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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh
Subject: LNH: Please Crosspost!
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:19:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

When I telnetted to LaUNChpad earlier today, I got a message saying that
LaUNChpad was down so that the file storage system could be re-arranged.  It
seems that people weren't deleting stuff from their mailboxes *like they
were supposed to* (Who are you looking at?  I've never gotten anymail on
LaUNChpad.), and they eventually hit the end of their disk space.  Which
means that Lpad was taken off-line.  Which means I can't read A.C.LNH thru
it.

Unfortunately, Mark Friedman tells me that Boa (the machine which brings
us WeaselNews is ALSO down for maintenance/repair/whatever work.  Sometimes
life is just cruel to you, y'know...sigh...

So what I'm saying is that the only way for those of us who can't get alt.
comics.lnh--whether it be through our own accounts, the BBSs, or WNews--
is through RACM.  So I'm asking you all to crosspost EVERYTHING to RACM for
those of us less fortunate than yourselves.

Thank you and happy holidays.

	--MikE...feelin' deprived here...

-- 
Mike Escutia	   |	"Holy Bat Caves, Boy Wonder!" 
a.k.a. Pliable Lad |				--Speedball, 
of the LNH	   |MikE@unh.edu |||  		  _New Warriors_ #31 
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From: ntprlr@eskimo.com (NightProwler)
Subject: Re: Hard Boiled - movie?
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:51:45 GMT

Keith E Murphy (murph@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know anything about Hard Boiled being made into a movie??  There is
: a new film out titled "Hard Boiled", directed by John Woo.  It was shown for the
: first time, I believe, at the Toronto film festival this year.  

Sorry to disappoint you, but Hard Boiled was shown at the Seattle
International Film Festival early this year, so I think we beat Toronto to the
punch on this one....

: It was described as hyper-violent, which makes me think even more that it
: might have something to do with the Miller/Darrow work.  

Not in the least.  Hard Boiled is the story of a Hong Kong cop who's trying to
break up a huge gun-running ring.  "Hyper-violent" is a more appropriate
description than you think...John Woo is like Sam Pekinpah on speed, doing a
modern kung-fu moive with guns that never empty.  When it comes out on Laser
Disk I will purchase it...it is a classic.

Another John Woo film was shown at a previous SIFF (90? 91?).  It was called
"The Killer", and has the same central star (Chow Yung Fat?).  The Killer is
the story of a hit-man who accidently blinds a lounge singer during a hit, and
feels the obligation to do one more hit to pay for her surgery to repair her
eyes.  The cop trying to stop him winds up becoming his partner in this
"hyper-violent" buddy film.  Lots of Guns.  Thousands of dead bodies.
Multiple shots to the gut.  A truely fine film.  

The one common thread between Both of these films is that the violence is
almost comic-book in nature.  All of the action is so "over-the-top" that it
becomes surreal, almost metaphoric.  John Woo's films are very much like
modernized kung-fu films; Hero faces adversity, overwhelming odds, pain,
suffering, etc. and must overcome his own personality to overcome his foes.
These are truely heroic themes, which comics endeavour to portray each and
every week.  If you enjoy the plot twists and comic-book nature of the
violence in Hard Boiled the Comic Book, check out Hard Boiled, the John Woo
film.  It is a wonderful break from the flat characters that Hollywood keeps
pumping out...
-- 
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#             NtPrlr@eskimo.com		       |  The Wierd turn Pro."       #
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Bagging the Prebagged Comics
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:18:03 GMT

One other thing:
	The Constitution of the United States of America is printed on 
handmade hemp paper, which is extremely durable.  This is somewhat ironic, as
hemp fiber comes from Marijuana plants.  (No, you can't get high from smoking 
hemp fibers.)  George Bush owes his life to Marijuana, as it was used 
extensively in World War II (engine oil, parachutes, boots).  Read the 
Emperor Has No Clothes (not the fairy tale) to find out more about marijuana.

Newsprint is tissue paper compared to Hemp paper.
Torsten Adair	
Organization: Masters student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:50:12 -0500 
From: Anatole Wilson <aw3a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Shooter First, Ask Questions Later

SCAVEN-CLAUS (probably not a real name) writes:

>Well, he [Jim Shooter] also talked about submissions.  He garuntees
(sp) that they will get
>comments back to everyone who sends in a submission to them.  For writers, he
>said he'll take subs. in any format (short stories, scripts, etc).  He
wants to
>see if they can write, writing comics can be taught later. 
>Other names he mentioned that get back to submitters were the guys at
>INNOVATION, and Mike Carlin over at DC.

Does anybody have addresses to write to send submissions to these
people, or how I can find these addresses? 



Anatole Wilson                  "If anyone objects to anything I say,
-----------------                I am prepared not only to retract it,
                                 But to deny under oath that I ever said it
                                 in the first place."
From: twhite@mozart.amd.com (Tom White)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:31:52 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <BzHIwt.2z@world.std.com> Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay) writes:
>solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
>
>
>>                The Annotated Stanley And His Monster
>>                                   
>>                          by Andrew Solovay
>>                                   
>>                  Issue 1:  How to Build a Tree Fort
>>      Phil Foglio, Chuck Fiala, John Costanza, Robbie Busch, and
>>                           Paul Kupperberg
>[...]
>>Page 2, panel 1: Los Angeles really sucks. 
>[...]
>>beanbag-chair behind the monster. I don't recognize the toys in the
>>lower right corner or the coke-can-thing next to the lava lamp.
>
>The toys definitely look familiar, tho I can't quite place them.  McDonald's
>advertising tie-ins?  The coke-can-thing is a lamp.

   In the 1970's there was a Kool-Aid competitor called Funny Face.
Same idea:  flavored sugar to mix with a gallon of water.  Each of the
flavors had an appropriately silly character associated with it (there
was even a root beer flavor, if I recall).  These two toys are Goofy Grape
and Choo-Choo Cherry.


--
 Thomas White          | Comparison is always a losing game. 
 Austin, Texas         |  
                       |                                  "We are unmarketable. 
 twhite@mozart.amd.com |                           It is our greatest revenge." 
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From: lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Another Gaiman short story
Organization: The Literary Squids of the Writing Poor
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:00:54 GMT


Since there seems to be some interest in Neil Gaiman's non-comic work
I thought I'd point out that he has a short story in a recent collection.
"Troll Bridge" appears in _Snow White, Blood Red_, edited by Ellen Datlow
and Terri Windling, from AvoNova/Morrow. The book is a series of stories
inspired by familiar children's tales. $22 in hardcover.

Disclaimer: I mean well, but I'm often terribly confused.

----------------------------
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "Over the top! Over the top! We'll be in 
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  Berlin in time for tea! They won't soon forget 
   The mild, the dutiful   |  the name of the King's Own Peanut Regiment!"
       and the bland       |          _Mr Peanut and the Green Fields Beyond_
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Saturday, 12 Dec 1992 14:20:22 EST
From: <AERE7114@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Favorite Artists?
 <1gbu3aINN1iv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>

My Favorite Artists:

Ernie Chan  -  Savage Sord of Conan is AWESOME!(John Buscema too, of course!)
Jim Lee     -  Only his old Punisher War Journal stuff
               His new Image character ahould be close to Punisher so I
               should like it too.
Norem       -  He does occasional Savage Sowrd covers
Elmore      -  Same as above
Bisley      -  The painted stuff too as someone mentioned
'Tex'       -  He draws a mean S.O.B Punisher
Gulacy      -  He does James Bond and Terminator for Dark Horse
               That last issue of *EndGame* had the best
               drawings.
Silvestri   -  I like it!

Ta Daa!
Check six.
Paul
The Great White North, where trees have so much snow on them that they
become uprooted and almost fall on top of your head as you're shovelling
your drive way!!!!!TIIIIMMBERRRRR!!!!..i'm runnin...i'm runnin...i'm runnin..
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: DH - Aliens: Colonial Marines
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:11:35 GMT

In article <92350.111815JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>, <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
writes:
 >  Does anyone know when this book is due out from Dark Horse?  My
 >comics store isen't very good about finding out publishing dates,
 >which makes ordering really tough.  If you know the date, could
 >you please e-mail it too me?  Oh, I'd also like to know when the
 >Predator v. Aliens collection is coming out as well.  Thanks in
 >advance, I really appreciate it.

Knowing Dark Horse, any time between today and March!  Dark Horse
Insider claims that it will be out *in* January (not dated January,
most likely)...and they rarely make the dates they list in their
comics/Insider.

I anxiously await this comic, too.  The preview in Insider looked good,
albeit B&W.

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC Cancelations (was Re: DC should change its name)
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:46:57
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
	<1992Dec08.201604.27756@microsoft.com>
	<1992Dec9.005800.11086@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
	<1992Dec9.185350.28849@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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In-reply-to: ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU's message of Wed, 9 Dec 1992 18:53:50 GMT

ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew Symons Troth) writes:
|Pity about Black Condor. Heckler's gone as well, if anyone cares; last 
|ish is #7.  Any bets on how long Peter Cannon--Thunderbolt lasts?

No fair.  I actually liked _The Heckler_.  It's fun.  Black Condor was
boring but Thunderbolt was practically an evil abomination (no, that's
not the word--isn't long enough).


--
Peace.
            "You're not drunk until you have to grab the
             grass to keep from falling off the Earth"
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Favorite Writers
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:45:33 EST

   I used the following criterion:
   If the art in the book is lousy, would I still buy the book if the
certain writer wrote the book... (under say, $2.50 for a regular book
and $10 for a graphic novel), by name value alone, and continue for
at least 6 issues even if my initial impression is lousy.  The writers are...
 
   Neil Gaiman
   Alan Moore
   Frank Miller
   Harlan Ellison
 
   The following is the writers I would buy IF they were linked with
certain characters:
   Peter David: Hulk (though I have to admit I strayed for a year or so)
   Keith Giffen/DeMattis JLI
   Roger Stern: Avengers (fond memories...)
   John Byrne: FF
   Dave Sim: Cerebus (I've not seen any outside work by him, writing-wise,
so he's here by default,
though there's Spawn coming up...)
 
   Jim Starlin used to be on the first list, but his new book Warlock is
so bad he dropped out.
   Howard Chaykin used to be on this list until the second series of
American Flagg (when he went to Russia)
 
   I tried to use the same criteria for artists, but I found it was
far less consistent.  I guess I like stories better than the art (though
it would be a tough call.)  The only case I could come up with was
Alan Davis and John Byrne (with Dave McKean and Bill Sinkiewitz narrowly
missing the list).
 
*******************************************************************
 
     I got remote control and a color TV
     I don't change the channels so they must change me.
 
     I need a doctor for my pressure pills
     I nned a lawyer for my medical bills
     I need a banker to finance my home
     I need security to back my loan
 
     I shouldn't bitch
     I shouldn't cry
     I'd start a revolution but I don't have time.
 
          Junsok Yang (YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu)
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: PAD, Sex AND Nudity .... (Re: Writers vs Artists)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:23:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <15DEC199221255945@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>

I'll be happy to answer.

What the hell is the question?

PAD
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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Retcons and Dr. Doom (Re: Retcons: Marvel and DC)
Keywords: marvel doom simonson byrne retcons
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:27:03 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1gg3f4INNmq5@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>Actually, concerning the scarless man in Doom 2099 who professes to be Dr.Doom,
>I had kind of a thought.  Does anyone remember back around Secret Wars time, or
>perhaps a little before where Doc Doom had his conciousness transferred to some
>poor schmuck's body, who then killed his family or something.
>Anyhow, this poor fool was "destroyed" by an energy blast from the Beyonder
>(I think, if not then somebody please post and correct me, 'cause my memories
>are faulty during this period :)   ).  Now, I think it just might be possible
>that this new Doom is that guy!  After all, during his operation he had wierd
>flashbacks about memories that weren't his own, etc.  Should be interesting
>to see how they explain him.

Obscure Trivia Lad will attempt to follow up on this.  No, the poor
schmuck Doom transferred his consciousness into didn't kill his family
(Obscure Trivia Lad remembers that the bystander had a wife, but 
doesn't remember if the bystander had any children).  During
Secret Wars II, Reed convinced the Beyonder not to kill Doom, since
the first Secret Wars occurred during the time that Doom was believed
dead, so the Doom in Secret Wars must have been from the future
(hey, it's Reed Richards.  He CAN'T be wrong!).  The Beyonder then
created a new body for Doom that was an exact duplicate of the one
Doom had before that body was destroyed.  Obscure Trivia Lad
doesn't remember what happened to the guy whose body Doom was
inhabiting, though.

Could Doom 2099 be that guy?  Possibly.  Could it be someone else
that Doom switched minds with?  Could be.  Could it be Kristoff?
Maybe.  Could it be another person like Kristoff, programmed to
think he's Doom?  There's a chance.  I guess we'll just have to
wait and find out.

Obscure Trivia Lad, got two feet of snow over the weekend.  *Sigh*

-- 
Brian Perler			bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu
"I wanna decide who lives and who dies"
	-Crow T. Robot, "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians," MST3K
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