From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What is Culture?
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:39:27 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <36260@twics.co.jp>, dcroz@twics.co.jp (DAVID CROSSLIN) writes:

=> For now, I'll just try to explain to you that, rather than "trying to
=> make baseball games between Japanese and American teams into a race war," as
=> your vicious slander would have it, I merely reported, correctly, that for the
=> Japanese all issues--including baseball--ultimately reduce to a matter of "our
=> race against all others."

The above stands by itself. Following are a number of personal attacks.
directed at myself by Mr. David Crossler. This sort of foolishness
doesn't really bother me, but it does show another minor leaguer
who never fails to resort to personal attacks whenever someone doesn't
agree with him. I guess his tendencies to overreact are fairly self-
evident. Also, he has begun using information I wrote in private email,
in which I tried very hard to have a discussion, not a flame war.

=1> as your vicious slander would have it

=2> I haven't quite decided whether you're misinterpreting my arguments out of
=> malice or out of stupidity

=3> I wondered how long it would take you to descend to flagrant lying. 

=4> Note that anyone of at least average intelligence (which may or may not
=> include you) 

=5> As stated above, your statement that I do so is a lie, and you are a liar.
=> It is you who "fails to recognize" the salient facts--or perhaps denies what he
=> knows, because he's on the payroll.

=6> I almost believe that
=> question could be a stumper for the likes of you.  
  
=7> How would you know?  Constructive for you is not offending the people who
=> write your paycheck.

=8> And you shouldn't presume that *everyone* has reacted like you.  There are
=> some people reading this group who are neither bigots nor quislings.
 
=9> Hunt me down and beat me with an axe handle?  That'd be about your style,
=> I guess.

=10> Errr. . .had you been, maybe, nipping at the cooking sherry when you wrote
=> this, or are you really dumb enough to say something like that?

=11> This is exactly the sort of tactic that worked so well for little Joe
=> Goebbels and big Joe Stalin.  Never mind the truth, just find a lie that would
=> discredit your opponent and keep screaming it.  

=12> It was filthy when they did it, and it's filthy when you do it.  I've
=> explained your error both here and in private e-mail.  I can only conclude that
=> your lie is deliberate.

=13> And you've written things like this often
=> enough that it becomes apparent that you just don't think too clearly.  

=14> I think I can now answer my question from the top of this note.  You
=> misinterpret my arguments out of both malice *and* stupidity.  

... end of Mr. Crossler's tirade.

=> How things look to you has become a matter of less than no interest to me.

Well, if that's so, you certainly spend a lot of time at it :-)

=> Tell you what, put me in your kill file, okay?  You're going in mine.
=> You're not worth talking to.

Nah... The next time your racist bullshit appears, as in the opening
paragraph, I'll be there to call you on it. You can bet your sheet.

- Bill Lambert