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From: debi@ucrengr.ucr.edu (deborah parrish)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Housing in Monterey area
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:51:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <1992Aug14.112448.29452@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wklaus@nyx.cs.du.edu (Walter Klaus) writes:
w> In article <25456@dog.ee.lbl.gov> julian@baldur.lbl.gov (julian cortella)
w> writes:
w> j> In article <1992Aug13.150025.20871@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wklaus@nyx.cs.du
w> j> edu (Walter Klaus) writes:
w> j> w> 
w> j> w> We are moving to the Monterey area in September and we are seeking to
w> j> w> rent a three bedroom house. Willing to pay from $800 to $1200. We are
w> j>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
w> j>                  !HA!    !HA!      !HA!      !HA!       !HA!
w> j> 
w> j> Sorry, Walter, I don't mean to be rude, but have you looked in a paper
w> j> from the Monterey area?  You >might< be able to find a two bedroom
w> j> apartment for that amount, if you're thinking of right around Monterey.
w> j> 
w> j> You would have to pretty far inland to find a house for your asking pric
w> j> 
w> j> I love to see the shock on people's faces when they first look for
w> j> housing in California. :-0  
w> j> 
w> j> :-<
w> 
w> 
w> Yes you are being rude. I asked for assistance and received a simple
w> anser from a simpelton.


I read an article in yesterday's paper (San Jose Mercury) which
ranked the most and least affordable housing markets in the US.
Of the 25 least-affordable regions, 19 are in California
(surprise, surprise).  Salinas-Monterey is the second-most
expensive region (San Francisco being the most expensive).  The
ranking was based on the percentages of homes in each area
which could've been purchased by a family earning that area's
median income.

I would guess that the rents in Monterey would be sky-high.  I
doubt you'll find a three-bedroom house for the price you're
looking for.  But who knows, you might get lucky.

Just to get an idea of the rents here in Sillycon Valley: I
currently live in Mountain View, about 45 minutes south of
San Francisco, and the rent for my one-bedroom/one-bathroom
apartment is $840/mo.  A 2-bed./2-bath. apartment in this
complex runs for $1070-$1080/mo.  And a furnished 1-bed./1-bath
in an apartment complex down the street runs for $1500/mo.

I hope this post was somewhat informative for anyone
thinking of moving out here.  :)  :)


Deborah Parrish
debi@ucrengr.ucr.edu
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: LOSERS!!!
Keywords: ASSHOLES, FAGGOTS, AND SLUTS...
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:16:39 GMT
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <!s0m3p.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
[ a lot of Gary's normal ranting deleted... ]

Go back to Alt.alien.visitors, dweeb.  You are neither welcomed or wanted here.




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My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: Re: OOPS!!!
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:46:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Losers of the major kind...

holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:

>In article <3d!nkcp.mbk@netcom.com> mbk@netcom.com (Miles Kehoe) writes:

>>The amazing thing is this guy's email address is in San Jose 
>>California. Hm....


>I guess he must be a "LOSER" too of the most major kind.  Either that or he 
>wants everyone to leave the state so he can have it all to himself.
>-----
>holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
*****

Nope!  SORRY!!  I was born in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and boy, am I glad. 
I'm PROUD AS PUNCH to have NOT been born in a LOSER state like
CaliFARTnia!!  Where the assholes are just mindless cowards!!  I won't
even comment about the sluts who think they're "ladies"...I sure am glad
the Mexicans are taking over the whole state!!  And the RIOTS, and all the
EARTHQUAKES!!  HAHAHAHA!!  This year alone has paid me back for years of
suffering from you BASTARDS!!!  I hope your whole economy goes down the
toilet, along with your loser teams!!  By the way, the New York Giants
really kicked the 49ers asses in, didn't they??  And the Yankees beat the
Dodgers TWO YEARS IN A ROW in 1977 and 1978!!  What more proof do you NEED
that you all suck the big one!!??  Have fun when all your money runs out
and you get shot by the Blacks, and your buildings all fall down!!!


GARY STOLLMAN
(waiting, hoping, and praying for the BIG ONE)

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Newsgroups: alt.california
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: Housing in Monterey area
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:40:42 GMT

|> I read an article in yesterday's paper (San Jose Mercury) which
|> ranked the most and least affordable housing markets in the US.
|> Of the 25 least-affordable regions, 19 are in California
|> (surprise, surprise).  Salinas-Monterey is the second-most
|> expensive region (San Francisco being the most expensive). 

I always wondered how they figured out these regions.  Coastal Monterey
is very expensive, no question.  But prices in Salinas and other inland
towns are much more reasonable.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: OOPS!!!
Summary: Knew there was something I forgot!
Keywords: Losers of the major kind...
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:26:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


THE ANGELS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ONE STRIKE TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Newsgroups: alt.california
From: marc_b@Ingres.COM (Marc Burckin)
Subject: Re: Paradise lost and Medi-Cal...
Reply-To: marc_b@Ingres.COM (Marc Burckin)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:29:42 GMT

>
>In article <1992Aug19.102346.20390@pony.Ingres.COM> marc_b@Ingres.COM (Marc Burckin) writes:
>>
>>I must disagree with you on this point. If you compare what you get here
>>in England with what you would get with a good HMO, the HMO would
>>*generally* give you better care(IMHO).
>
>How can you say that?  Do you have any studies to point to.
>

As I said in my previous post this my opinion based on the treatment I have
received in both countries. I know of no studies, but if anyone has any I'd
be interested in seeing them.

>I went to the doctor (GP) here in England for a problem and he was
>outraged at what I had been prescribed for it in the states.  It was
>a nasty addictive drug which didn't even help me much.  He prescribed
>another drug which was far more effective and it's not addictive.
>That's the UK (FREE) doctor did far better for me than the US (EXSPENSIVE)
>specialist.
>

Health car in the UK is NOT free. We all pay 9% of our income to pay for the
NHS.

>I've heard lots of horror stories about HMO's in California denying
>people treatment so they can cut costs. I had a flatmate in LA who
>worked for an HMO to help them cut costs.  One of the big things
>he said they do is tell old people that there's nothing they
>can do for them when they can, because in his words "most of
>our costs are for old people."   I just don't know where you
>get off saying that it's better than National health is here.  Certainly,
>it's not perfect here, but I think that a profit oriented health
>care system is basically evil. It's people reaping financial benifit
>out of the suffering of others.

I know there are going to be horror stories for both the US system and
for the UK system. Neither is perfect. If I *had* to choose one I would
probably choose UK's because even though I believe the quality of care is
a little lower it is still quite a good system AND everyone is covered by it.

Below is an example of how I feel the US system needs changing:

A friend of a friend was in the process of moving his family from the south to
California. This guy worked in construction and having quit his job before
he moved he was w/o healthcare until his new one started(about 3 1/2 weeks).
Well in that time his 6 month old baby had an accident. After just one
afternoon(and an hours surgery), the family found out they were somehow
going to have to find about $12,000 to cover the medical bills. Stuff like this
should'nt happen. Yeah, I know one could say they should have bought coverage
for the time in between jobs, but money was already tight for them.

Having not lived in the US for about the last 3 years I'm a little out
of touch with what is happening in terms of new health car legislation. I've
heard that there are various proposals being put forward that would help
bring universal coverage to all employees. Anyone in the know care to add
something to this?

				Marc


marc_b@ingres.com
Ingres International
London

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From: mbernard@fpa5.Germany.Sun.COM (Michael Bernard - Sun Germany Financembernard@fpa5.Germany.Sun.COM (Michael Bernard - Sun Germany Financembernard@fpa5.Germany.Sun.COM (Michael Bernard - Sun Germany Financembernard@fpa5.Germany.Sun.COM (Michael Bernard - Su)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: SHUTTLECON '92 Information and Registration
Date: 11 Aug 92 15:51:03 GMT
Reply-To: mbernard@fpa5.Germany.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Old-Message-ID: <6791@sungy.Germany.Sun.COM>


HELLO.


DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO EMAIL WITH THE 
UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD, MISSISSIPPI?

A FRIEND OF MINE WILL BE STUDYING THERE LATER ON THIS YEAR, SO 
IT WOULD BE VERY KIND IF SOMEBODY COULD TELL ME THE EMAIL ADDRESS 
IF THERE HAPPENS TO EXIST ONE.

I KNOW THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT PLACE TO POST THIS, BUT I COULD NOT
FIND ANY GROUP CONCERNED WITH MISSISSIPPI, SORRY  -   SO I THOUGHT
I MIGHT TRY HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

MICHAEL
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: chairman@board8.uucp (The Chairman)
Subject: Re: Advice needed: relocation to the Bay area
Organization: board8
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 13:50:12 GMT

lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung) writes:

>steiny@steiny.com (Don Steiny)
>in Message-ID: <101@steiny.com> writes:

>>lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung) writes:
>>>>As far as buildings being structurally sound in locations like 
>>>>Boulder Creek, if they can withstand a 7.1 quake, what more could you ask 
>>>>for?  
 There's nothing wrong here          in Boulder Creek. Just watch out
that you don't stumble into          the huge cracks in the ground like
the one that runs right thr          ough the middle of this message.


-- 
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From: debi@ucrengr.ucr.edu (deborah parrish)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Paradise lost and Medi-Cal...
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:22:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <1992Aug17.233435.22487@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Ariel.A.Vitali@dartmouth.edu (Ariel A. Vitali) writes:

-> Hello, fellow Californians!
-> 
->    ...  And I won't even discuss Pete's raising of Cal State and
-> University of California fees (but if YOU want to, feel free!).  Fees
-> were bad enough at UC Riverside when I was there.  I can't imagine how
-> it is for any of you out there.
-> 
->  [...]
-> 
-> Ariel Vitali
-> Orange County Refugee
-> Cal-Riverside, '90
-> Dartmouth Medical School, '94
-> (ariel.a.vitali@dartmouth.edu)


When I started my freshman year at UC Riverside ('84) my fees were
less than $400 per quarter.  If I had stayed in graduate school
there last spring, my fees would have been over $1700 for the
quarter.  And the fees are just gonna get higher...  :-(  :-(

Deborah Parrish
debi@ucrengr.ucr.edu
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Any cheap places to sleep in San Fran?
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:23:56 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <1992Aug20.014026.17223@cis.ohio-state.edu> romeo@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
>
>the Pacific Coast highway up to San Fran and we want to stay overnight
>somewhere cheap. Why? We are college students and the word POOR always 
>follows the word COLLEGE:) We are just doing a 2 day deal up in San Fran.
>I appreciate anybody's information on places that are relatively cheap.
>(We'll camp somewhere or sleep in the car somewhere safe if we have too:))
>

I wouldn't reccomend sleeping in your car in San Francisco (it's not that
safe).  There's a youth hostel at the north end of Van Ness in the city. 
It's pretty cheap.  If you insist on sleeping in your car head for Pacifica
or go over the golden gate bridge to marin county and pull of somewhere over 
there -- It's a lot safer (I've done it).
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: Advice needed: relocation to the Bay area
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 18:41:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.135012.4550@board8.uucp> chairman@board8.uucp (The Chairman) writes:

>As far as buildings being structurally sound in locations like 
>>>>>Boulder Creek, if they can withstand a 7.1 quake, what more could you ask 
>>>>>for?  
> There's nothing wrong here          in Boulder Creek. Just watch out
>that you don't stumble into          the huge cracks in the ground like
>the one that runs right thr          ough the middle of this message.

I've only been living in Boulder Creek 12 years, so I haven't found the 
cracks in the ground yet.  Can you tell me where they are so I don't fall in 
forever?
-----
holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: OOPS!!!
Keywords: Losers of the major kind...
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:41:03 GMT

In article <holly.164@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com>
holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
>Either that or he 
>wants everyone to leave the state so he can have it all to himself.

Not a bad idea.
Since it would be a statistical/probabilistic thing, it would be a great way
to reduce the population were it not for other problems.  So it would
at least slow the growth rate.

"Ban professional sports."  -- George Michael

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
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Newsgroups: alt.california
From: romeo@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mr. Bill)
Subject: Any cheap places to sleep in San Fran?
Originator: romeo@chocktaw.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:40:26 GMT


Hi,

I am visiting a friend in LA in a couple of weeks and we plan on driving
the Pacific Coast highway up to San Fran and we want to stay overnight
somewhere cheap. Why? We are college students and the word POOR always 
follows the word COLLEGE:) We are just doing a 2 day deal up in San Fran.
I appreciate anybody's information on places that are relatively cheap.
(We'll camp somewhere or sleep in the car somewhere safe if we have too:))



							Thanks,

Newsgroups: alt.california
From: wklaus@nyx.cs.du.edu (Walter Klaus)
Subject: Housing in Monterey area
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:00:25 GMT


We are moving to the Monterey area in September and we are seeking to
rent a three bedroom house. Willing to pay from $800 to $1200. We are nea

mature adult couple, early fifties. Glad to provide a security deposit
and we have a small dog. I will be attending the Naval Postgraduate Schoo
.
Thank you
Walter H. Klausx


Newsgroups: alt.california
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: Hints for my califonia trip
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:15:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <holly.144@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
>
>I wouldn't go to LA unless absolutely necessary (horrible city). 

We love you too, babe.

-- 
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                         Fax: 805.944.5958
From: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Advice needed: relocation to the Bay area
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:06:42 GMT
Reply-To: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) wrote:
[a response in an ongoing, typical, standard Calironian's discussion
about earthquakes...]
btw.  i still don't think i'm exagerating by much about the hopelessness
of the east coast to earthquakes.  there was a 5.? near St Louis two
years ago and brick chimneys in Chicago exploded.  i think i'll come
back to california where we can sleep through 5.? earthquakes..

>>distance).  I'd be more worried about the "Big One" on the East
>>than the "Big One" in California.  The difference is a few thousand
>>people and some feisty blue jays versus half the nation's population
>>getting majorly shook.
>
>Actually, there are no blue jays in California -- blue jays are an eastern
>bird.  What we have here that most people call "blue jays" are scrub jays.
>Stellar's jays are also blue, and have a crest.  But none are near as
>beautiful as the blue jay.

whoa...my kindergarten teacher told me they were blue jays...uh oh...
my entire appreciation of her's been shattered.  we're talking about
the ones with the crests on their heads right?  the one's without
crests are equally annoying though if you're trying to have a picnic.

Terence
From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: LOSERS!!!
Keywords: ASSHOLES, FAGGOTS, AND SLUTS...
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:09:54 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <!s0m3p.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
>THE YANKEES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>THE METS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>THE NEW YORK GIANTS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>THE BRAVES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>NEW YORK!!!!!    NEW YORK!!!!!

Gee, first the Giants move to Florida, and then the Braves move to New
York.  What is the NL coming to?

T he
B raves
S uck

Since when is 10/14 >= 3/4?

A Dodger fan who wants the Giants to stay (I can't hate the Padres as
easily  :-)

Agitator
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Newsgroups: alt.california,rec.travel
From: debbie@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (debbie s. bartolome)
Subject: Re: California info wanted!!!!
Reply-To: debbie@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (debbie s. bartolome)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:30:08 GMT

Erik-

There is a mountain bike store called Leucadia Cyclery about
30 minutes north of Downtown San Diego.  It's highly recommended
for top quality parts and good prices.  Ask for Fred.  The
number is 1 (619) 436-2786.

-Debbie
debbie@sabre.larc.nasa.gov

P.S.  Try to find some time to spend in La Jolla.  It is about
15-20 minutes north of Downtawn San Diego.  Nice place to shop,
snorkle at the beach, or just to take an evening stroll through town.
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: LOSERS!!!
Keywords: ASSHOLES, FAGGOTS, AND SLUTS...
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:34:07 GMT


In article <!s0m3p.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
...stuff about sports, I don't care about.
>AND CALIFORNIA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...more stuff about sports, I don't care about.

And from the header:
Keywords: ASSHOLES, FAGGOTS, AND SLUTS...

So what are you wasting your time and my time in this news group for?

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From: mbk@netcom.com (Miles Kehoe)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: OOPS!!!
Keywords: Losers of the major kind...
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:16:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

The amazing thing is this guy's email address is in San Jose 
California. Hm....
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: rcarter@gaudi.nas.nasa.gov (Russell L. Carter)
Subject: Re: Paradise lost and Medi-Cal...
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 23:27:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.190517.29308@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> andrewg@ece.cmu.edu (Andrew R. Ghali) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug19.155004.245@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>...
>|> That's the UK (FREE) doctor did far better for me than the US (EXSPENSIVE)
>                 ^^^^^^                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> specialist.
>
>------Flame on--------
>

[ stuff deleted ]

>and the state will be screwed forever.  Remember, FREE = government money =
>tax dollars =  YOUR money = YOUR work != somebody else's problem.  You want
>something, you pay for it yourself.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^       
!!!!!!!!!!!!------> oh my!


How much did you pay to use the internet?  Your logic seems abit, well,
onanistic.  Don't forget to vot.

Russell, who's-been-to-a-few-docs-and-can't-stand-the-lot;they-might
as-well-be-free.
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