HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Snail mail address for Queen of England?
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:59:27 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <1992Nov20.144459.10928@mcc.com> croley@r2d2.mcc.com (David Croley) writes:
>I am trying to locate the normal postal address for the Queen (of England). 
>Anyone over there have any ideas.  I recently saw the BBC special on her.
>Heard her house (Windsor Castle) is on fire this a.m. :( 
>

You can mail Liz "read one's lips - pay no taxes" Windsor as 
The Queen, England, and it would proably get through. You could also address
the message to "The Queen, Buckingham Palace, London SW1, England"

Simon
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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: steveb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Steve Browne)
Subject: Number of computers on the Internet     
Cc: steveb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: steveb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:11:00 +0000

>>Group: alt.internet.services 
>>From: fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) 
>>Date: 22/11/92 00:43:00 
>>Subject: Number of computers on the Internet 
>>Does anyone know of an Internet source where I can get up-to-date stats 
>>about the number of computers and users on the Internet? 
>>The most recent estimate I have right now is that "nearly one million" 
>> 
>>Thanks for your help, 
>> 
>>- Dan Fass 
 
I would be very interested in a source for this kind of information too. 
 
S.
From: rjd@cup.portal.com (R J Decker)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Communications of the ACM
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 03:57:37 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <BxxFGA.9C5@phage.cshl.org>

pmj@isis.cshl.org writes:
>  using ibm virtual machines on bitnet

:-) So what.
acmvm.bitnet is just the organization.
Organizations don't do work - people do; and exchange their ideas via
journals, meetings, sigs, messages, &c.
Every time the organization decides to 'improve' the home computer system
it winds up costing me extra dues so they can send the dues bills quicker
with th enew system!
Send for an application or ask a coworker. Membership can't help but improve
your ability in the profession. many meetings, and journals.

rjs@cup.portal.com
From: rjd@cup.portal.com (R J Decker)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Communications of the ACM
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:44:52 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

  > the ACM (whatever it is)

Shame!!  Well perhaps you can be forgiven being as you are on the other
side of the pond. :-)

ACM = Association for Computing Machinery - an old (1947) and respected
professional society devoted to the "development of information
processing as a dicipline".

For info:  acmhelp@acmvm.bitnet

rjd@cup.portal.com  (ACM member since 1965)
From: bs527@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nick Rerwick)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Telnet or Internet address for Drew University.
Date: 18 Nov 1992 04:43:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I need to telnet to Drew University and I don't have the telnet
address.  If anyone know how I can obtain this info please let me know.
I've been looking for a while now and can't seem to find it.
It can be either numeric or alphabet code...Thanks for your time.

Fdx
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From: swssauby@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Michael Saunby)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: FSP sites?? Any available?
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:22:02 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

bgoffe@seq.uncwil.edu (Bill Goffe) writes:

>hui@apaturia.trl.OZ.AU (Alvaro Hui) writes:

>Okay, I give up. What is FSP? Given the response
>to this post (only a few sites known), I'd guess
>that a lot of others would be interested as well.
>Plus, I looked it up in Kroll's book as well and
>there is nothing listed.

The following is the first part of the FSP Readme

                                                Interested party please email
                                                wen-king@vlsi.cs.caltech.edu
    What is the purpose of FSP:

        FSP is a set of programs that implements a public-access archive
        similar to an anonymous-FTP archive.  It is not meant to be a
        replacement for ftp; it is only meant to do what anonymous-ftp
        does, but in a manner more acceptible to the provider of the
        service and more friendly to the clients. 

        Providing anonymous-FTP service can be costly --- each active
        session consumes one process slot in the OS and one stream socket
        entry in the network sub-system.  The servers can also run
        concurrently, adding to the system load.  A popular archive site
        can easily be overwhelmed as a result.  Some were forced to
        shutdown or and some impose inconvienent access restrictions. 

        Unlike FTP, FSP is connection-less and virtually state-less.  One
        server handles requests from all clients machines.  Each active
        client machine takes up 16-bytes in a dynamically extensible
        table.  Since only one server runs at any time, the load added
        to the server machine is less than one.

And it ends:

    This is a free software.  Be creative; make your own macros and tools
    and let me know of any bugs and suggestions.


>Bill Goffe
>bgoffe@seq.uncwil.edu
-- 
	Michael Saunby (M.Saunby@reading.ac.uk) 
	Meteorology Dept, Reading University, UK
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Subject: Re: "who's who" service?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:51:37 GMT

katiyar@prl.dec.com (Dinesh Katiyar) writes:
>
>is there any on-line analog of "who's who" somewhere?
>

I am not exactly sure what you mean by "who's who", but the closet service
I can think of that I think you want is the nic.ddn.  (National Information
Center / Data Defense Network).

Telnet to 'nic.ddn.mil' and choose 'whois' option.  From there you can
try people's last names, hosts, or addresses.  Only an optional percentage
of Inet users are on that list however.
-- 

Lon Lowen Jr.                        |  Wayne State University
Netcom Online Communications         |  Detroit, Michigan
lllowen@netcom.com                   |  (lllowen@mts.cc.wayne.edu)
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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: alexb@minerva1.bull.it (Alessandro Bottonelli)
Subject: Re: TALK (giving away passwords)
Organization: Bull Italia SpA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:53:55 GMT

wolfgang@nosc.mil (Lewis E. Wolfgang) writes:

>In article 92Nov15211149@titan.ucc.umass.edu, mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler) writes:
>>Well, for some there is no option, as telnet is the only way to enter
>>some accounts.  What is the reasoning behind losing ones account for
>>allowing someone else access?  The gain access only to your accuont,
>>and you are responsible for waht occurs with your account.  I'm not
>>flaming, >I'm just curious about the reasoning behind this.
>-----

>I can't speak for other sites, but being a military facility we consider
>giving out a password a security violation ...

Another reason behind NOT GIVING AWAY your account/password is 'liability'.
In other words if something happens with someone's account you want to
be sure you can prosecute that someone and that someone is identified and
identifiable beyound any doubt.

For example a milestone of Italian Law System is that 'criminal responsibility'
is personal, you can't be prosecuted for someone else's mishups even if those
are a consequence of your own acts. I believe many other Law Systems have
similar provisions, therefore YOU DON'T WANT YOUR USERS NOT TO BE UNIQUELY
IDENTIFIABLE or you lose any chance to prosecute.



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== I.S./W.S./Network Security Officer | PHONE: +39-(0)2-6779/8324          ==
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From: brendan@cygnus.com (Brendan Kehoe)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Future network
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:46:27 GMT
	<1992Nov17.165825.22696@bradley.bradley.edu>
Reply-To: brendan@cygnus.com (Brendan Kehoe)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cygnus Support, Mountain View CA; Phone +1 415 903 1400
In-reply-to: stone@bradley.bradley.edu's message of Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:58:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.165825.22696@bradley.bradley.edu> stone@bradley.bradley.edu (Steve Stone) writes:

   I think he is referring to the gigabit backbone for the Internet/NREN.
   It is already being tested between some supercomputing sites.

   I don't know where to find more info., but I would guess you could
   point your WAIS at internet-documents.src, or ietf-docs.src or
   netinfo.src or netinfo-docs.src and start finding some things
   that have been put out by the Internet Engineering Task Force. 

For a booklet on the whole High Performance Computing and
Communications act, write to

  Federal Coordinating Council for Science, Engineering and Technology
  Committee on Physical, Mathematical, and Engineering Sciences
  c/o National Science Foundation
  Computer and Information Science and Engineering Directorate
  1800 G Street, NW
  Washington, DC  20550

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Cygnus Support, Mountain View, CA                              +1 415 903 1400
                                                             His name's Avery!
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: hetlil@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Leo J. Hetling)
Subject: Census Bureau Data
Followup-To: na
Keywords: census data
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: alt.internet.services
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:47:57 GMT




Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Snail mail address for Queen of England?
Organization: The World
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:09:59 GMT


>> Heard her [the Queen of England's] house (Windsor Castle) is on fire...
>
>figuratively speaking, perhaps...

No, quite literally, turn on the radio. One of the buildings in the
Lower (whatever it is, in the Tower of London area) had quite a fire.

Prince Andrew was in the building at the time and assisted in removing
some valuables although it is certain that some things have been lost.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled netnews group...

-- 
        -Barry Shein

Software Tool & Die    | bzs@world.std.com          | uunet!world!bzs
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202        | Login: 617-739-WRLD
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: rwhitehead@cix.compulink.co.uk (Roger Whitehead)
Subject: Justification for commercial access to I
Cc: rwhitehead@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: rwhitehead@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:56:00 +0000

I think you should keep your hair on, old chap.  While it is entirely
possible that the parts of Internet belonging to the U.S.A. are funded by
your government, I doubt that this is so in other parts of the world.  And,
quite honestly, I don't think the rest of the world gives a tinker's cuss
about the attachment of "commercial entities" (curious expression, that.
Doesn't your organization charge for its services?).

So, do try to keep a sense of proportion, there's a good fellow, and confine
yourself to useful contributions.

Roger

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Director,
Office Futures,
14 Amy Road,
Oxted,
Surrey    RH8 0PX
England

Telephone:  +44 883 713074
Fax:  +44 883 716793
Email:  rwhitehead@cix.compulink.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: pec2@ra.msstate.edu (Paul E. Carroll)
Subject: Re: What/How to use ".netrc"
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:42:34 GMT

It should also be made clear that other macros besides init are available.
Basically, anything you can do from the shell or in ftp, you can do with a
macro.  I didn't know about the default deal, though.. that's cool.
For example, I have a macro to get and more a file called "vf" and a
recursive directory macro called "dr" and one to create a0 length
message called "msg".  You can use things like $1 in a macro to mean the
first argument passed to the macro...

Hope this helps a little... BUt remember that it only scratches the 
surface of .netrc capabilities..

-Paul
-(pec2@Ra.MsState.Edu)

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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: af062@yfn.ysu.edu (Marshall Levin)
Subject: usenet posting via email
Reply-To: af062@yfn.ysu.edu (Marshall Levin)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:32:08 GMT


Is there a way to post to usenet via email?
--
From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Communications of the ACM
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:09:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <28229@castle.ed.ac.uk>, psr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Paul S Randal) writes:

    (stuff deleted)

> Also does anyone know if its possible to get articles from the New York
> Post (??) and Boston Herald (??) on-line ??
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
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I checked the list I have from EPIC on full-text newspapers and for
Massachusetts there's only the Boston Globe and for New York there's: Albany
Times-Union, Buffalo News, Knickerbocker News, New York Times and Newsday. So
neither the New York Post nor the Boston Herald seem to be online. That doesn't
preclude their being abstracted in another database such as Newspaper
Abstracts.

I recommend that you ask your reference librarian to check the Cuadra (sp ?)
book on online databases. There are literally thousands of online databases and
only a  careful search will uncover if the material you're looking for is
online.

Josh

backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL





Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: TALK (giving away passwords)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:27:10 GMT

wolfgang@nosc.mil (Lewis E. Wolfgang) writes:

>I can't speak for other sites, but being a military facility we consider
>giving out a password a security violation.  When a user has an account
>on a system, he/she may have access to information intended only for other
>authorized users of that system.  Authorized users are considered to be
>"friendly" and unlikely to try to gain root access or to cause other 
>troubles.  Thus, by giving away your password you relinquish control
>and responsibility for the correct useage of your account.  

>In our context, a user giving away their password would not only loose
>their home account, but we would setup one for them at 
>leavenworth.fed.prison.gov :-)

I think this is definitely the policy and reasoning followed by most
sites, including Stanford.  But our penalties are not nearly so
harsh...:-)  Although, in all seriousness, giving others access to
your account may be considered a violation of the Fundamental
Standard, Stanford's highest honor code, so that egregious violation
of this policy can result in pretty severe penalties -- but that's
pretty darn unlikely.  I haven't read the policy document lately...

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu




Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: kenton@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (gidewall,kenton c)
Subject: Re: freenet
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 06:46:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.044513.5123@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> kenton@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (gidewall,kenton c) writes:
>In article <bpn.95.722400751@po.CWRU.Edu> bpn@po.CWRU.Edu (Brian Nelson) writes:
>>In article <1em1buINNbp9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz) writes:
>>>From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
>>>Subject: Re: freenet
>>>Date: 21 Nov 1992 19:06:38 GMT
>>>
>>> [....]
>
>I think that maybe Mark is asking a different question here.  If he isn't,
>I want to ask the one I think he is asking. :-)
>
>Is there a way to telnet to a computer in a different part of the
>country without first getting on to a computer.  For example, I want
>my dad to be able to send me mail via Internet, however, he doesn't have
>an account anywhere.  I can get him one on the Cleveland Free Net, but
>is there a way for him to access the account from Chicago short of 
>dialing it directly long-distance and incurring LD charges?
>
>I know something about what Mark is talking about.  I used to go to
>Michigan State and you could do something similar to that with the
>"merit" system.  That is some sort of network connecting all Michigan
>.edu computers.  I never actually tried it, though, because I already
>had access.  Anyways, is there a way to do that?
>
>  Kenton Gidewall
>
Here I am again, answering my own question.  After some more looking
I have found that there are many public-access boards around the nation.
Some have a fee, some don't.  I found two lists.  One was a Usenet
article named "Public Dialup Internet Access List."  I can't remember
for sure, but I think I found it in alt.bbs.  These sites offer Usenet
and e-mail access.  Some people swear that these sites don't have
ftp and telnet access, but it sounded to me like some of them did.
Oh yes, the other list I ftp-ed from gvl.unisys.com (128.126.220.104).
It is in the dir  pub/nixpub and the filename is "long."  There is also
a nationwide network of dialup locations called Holonet.  You can get
info on them by mailing to info@holonet.net.  Another possibility is
that many local BBS boards now offer internet mail access (I think some
of the sites in the list are this type).  They also may or maynot
charge for this. 

  Kenton Gidewall


Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler)
Subject: Poetry online.....
Organization: /usr/users/user4/mappler/.organization
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:29:45 GMT

Anybody know of a site that has poetry online?  Thank you,
  Matt
--
Matthew Appler - Unichussetts of Massaversity
mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu

 -You can only be young once, but you can ALWAYS be immature....:)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: 35007_321@uwovax.uwo.ca (Gord Nickerson)
Subject: Recent Uploads to LIBSOFT
Organization: SLIS
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:00:48 GMT

Directory CCSDISK:[PUB.LIBSOFT]
Last Update: Nov 23, 1992 EDT

Recent uploads to the LIBrary SOFTware archives. These files are available
via anonymous FTP from HYDRA.UWO.CA

ACADLIST.TXT	The 5th Revision of the Directory of Scholarly Electronic 
		Conferences. (How to obtain it - not the actual list!)

LIBRARIES.WP5	Billy Barron's Internet Library Guide which list library
		catalogs and databases on the Internet accessible by
		Telnet. This is the WordPerfect 5.1 version. A Binary File.

INTERNET_CRUISE_WIN.EXE
		Merit's Cruise of the Internet. This is the version for
		Microsoft Windows. A binary file.

INTERNET_CRUISE_WIN.TXT
		An ASCII file explaining the Windows version.

BIBL771.ZIP	Simple to use online catalog for a small personal library.
		Comes with a sample database.

BIBNET27.ZIP	Novell Netware version of BIBL.

KWIK15.ZIP	ZK indexing program. Produces KWIC or KWOC indexes from
		ASCII files. 

INFNETNEWS3.TXT
		Issue 3 November 1992 of INFORMATION NETWORKING NEWS, an 
		electronic journal produced by the UK's
		CD-ROM and Information Networking Group.
		
		CONTENTS

		NETWORKING CD-ROM ON A LARGE CAMPUS NETWORK - CAN OPT-NET
		TAKE THE STRAIN?
		by Alan Neville, University of Manchester, UK

		Z39.50 FOR INNOCENTS
		by Tony Addyman, University of Salford, UK

		CDSENTRY - AN EVALUATION
		by Morag Watson, University of Birminham, UK

E_JOURNALS.TXT	Directory of Electronic Journals and Newsletters by Michael
		Strangelove. An ASCII File.


ZEN.TXT		Brendan Kehoe's Zen and the Art of the Internet. Now
		available as a book. ASCII file.

LAW.TXT		Mary Jensen's Electronic Conferences & Lists Related to Law,
		Politics, Govt. & Librarianship. Contains sections about
		Law Library Catalogs on the Internet, interesting FTP sites
		related to Law, Politics & Government, and a selection of
		Usenet Newsgroups. An ASCII File.


INTERNET_ACCESS.TXT

		Individual Access to the INTERNET. Compiled by James Milles     
                Contains the Public Dialup Internet Access List (PDIAL), the
		NETWORK PROVIDER REFERRAL LIST from the NSF Network Service
		Center (NNSC), and the long listing of Public Access UNIX
		(*NIX) Sites. An ASCII File.

DARTMOUTH_LISTS.TXT

		Describes the Dartmouth list of the LISTSERV lists on Bitnet
		and the Interest Group lists on the Internet.  Contributed
		by David Avery. List is available in ASCII format and as a
		Hypercard stack. Utilities for mounting on VAX/VMS and
		UNIX systems are available. An ASCII File.

LIST_TUTOR.HQX
		A Hypercard tutorial stack on mailing lists. Requires Binhex.
 
BAR_CODE.ZIP    
		A SNOBOL4 PROGRAM FOR BARCODE VALIDATION (compiled).      
                VERSION 1.0  by Stuart Spore June 1991. Requires PKUNZIP.
		

Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: jsav@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (lime jello)
Subject: Re: freenet
Keywords: freenet
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:17:03 GMT

cfox@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Christopher Fox) writes:


>      Does anyone have any information on freenets?
>What are they? Do they allow one access to the net
>without having to have an account at a university or
>company? Are they widespread, and how may I obtain
>a list of locations?

>      Any information would be appreciated.

could information please be posted on the newsgroup as well?
thank you
	jsav@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu

>      Please e-mail me at mat2jjf@cabell.vcu.edu