From: mrv@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (madhukar.r.vadyala)
Subject: Re: ...... Hyderabadi muslims ........
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:26:53 GMT

|In article <1gnhciINNjo3@meaddata.meaddata.com>, ram@meaddata.com (Ram Nugooru) writes:
||> In article <1992Dec15.134333.4639@hellgate.utah.edu> you write:
||> |> In article <1992Dec15.183019.28236@cs.wayne.edu>, uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
||> |> |> 
||> |> |> narain@bass.bu.edu gave a very good account of what he saw and explained
||> |> |> quite clearly the reasons for his disgust the hyderabadi muslim's behaviour.
||> |> |> 
||> |> |> whatever the other people's response is to it : I have something to say too.
||> |> |> 
||> |> |> 
||> |> |> My personal experience is identical.  having lived in many parts of india,
||> |> |> I venture to state this : the hyderabadi muslims are the most
||> |> |> agressive and the most unpatriotic muslims in the subcontinent (going by
||> |> 	[stuff deleted]
||> |> 
||> |> |> 
||> |> |> Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
||> |> |> (email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
||> |> |> 
||> |> 
||> |> Satish.
||> |> 
||> |> -- 
||> |> Satish S. Iyengar                             Phone:(Home) (801) 581-1424
||> |> 
||> 
||> Which part of Hyderabad did you live, hope its not old city.
||> 
||> These are the same people who celebrate when Pakistan wins a criket
||> match or hockey match against India. These are the same people who
||> does not believe Indian constitution, I am talking about the educated
||> society of muslim community, it's not the ordinary joe on the street.
||> Go into the old city and see how things are, they are driving away
||> all the other communities from their neighborhoods. How many times did
||> they not attacked hindu temples in the past, how many times did they
||> not rob the shops in the charminar area, how many times did they not
||> rape mothers and sisters of us during the riots of vinaka chaviti.
||> When hole city is busy in celebrations of vinaka nimagnam, they
||> attacked the hindu houses in the old city rape every hindu woman they
||> came across, no muslim leader ever condemned their actions. Talking
||> about the leaders, they have a fanatic religious party, who preach in
||> their mosques to kill others. This shows their partriotism. 
||> 
|
|I think what you say here is totally ridiculous.  In all my 21 years of stay
|in Hyderabad, I never once heard or witnessed the destroying of a temple either
|in the old city area or for that matter in any part of Hyderabad by anybody,
|let alone the muslims.  Like I said earlier, I agree that there may be some
|cases in which a certain group of people celebrated the Pakistani victory over
|India in cricket matches but generalizing that every muslim in Hyderabad does
|that based on a small section of the muslim population is baseless.  Coming to
|mothers and daughters raped during immersion and other processions, I wouldn't 
|be too sure as to the faith of the wrong-doer.  There are many people belonging
|to all sects who abuse the hustle and bustle of the immersion procession to
|jostle with the ladies around who would have come to the sides of the road to
|see the procession.  In fact, I am sure that many of these wrong-doers are those
|who are part of the procession.  
|
||> -Ram Nugooru
||> 
|
|Satish.

Although Mr Iyengar may be right with respect to generalization of whole
community, but the track record of some of the muslims  makes lot of
hindus and others suspicious of that commnunity.  It is also true
that not all muslims express their support for pakistan, but that does not
mean that they don't have those feelings.

If you were in hyd during the gulf war then you would have witnessed the open
support for saddam. ( Ofcourse Iraq is much better compared to
Iran and Saudi Arabia.)

Hyderabad is relatively peaceful and surviving only because of
the hindu majority.  Otherwise it would have been
another Kashmir.  Don't forget the Rajakar (did i spell it right !)
movement during independence.  We owe a lot to Sardar Patel.

It is time for muslims to identify with india  and substanciate that
with  their actions.


Cheers

Madhukar Reddy.