From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Techno
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:41:30 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-11-93 18:36
Quoted From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
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> In article <1993Jan10.184315.27839@rose.com>, greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
> |> 
> |> Date Entered: 01-10-93 13:39
> |> Quoted From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
> |> > 
> |> >         You can almost divide up all people into different musical
> |> > groups. There are people who will listen to whatever's popular, and
> |> > there are people who listen to what THEY want to listen to. Music for
> |> > me is something very special, very mooving...
>                                         ^^^^^
> 
>         BAAAAH !    (sorry , the dog made me do it :-) 
> 
> |> Techno, I feel, can evoke more of an emotional response than any 
> |> lyrically-based form of music.  The sounds can take one down, or bring 
> |> one up to a crazed dancing frame of mind.  If I listen to some of my 
> |> other music (stuff like 'Catherine Wheel', or 'The Stone Roses', or 
> |> 'Revolver'), I can't get quite as much out of the song.  I think 
> |> possibly I'll phase this other music out eventually -- not really 
> |> conciously, but because I don't get as much enjoyment out of it as I 
> |> do rave/techno stuff, so I am listening to it less and less.  You need 
> |> not adopt the writers opinion of the what the music means (through the 
> |> lyrics) with rave and techno -- you add your own, and that can be 
> |> different for every person.  One of the keys to the rave culture is 
> |> individuality, and that's what this music represents (among other 
> |> things).
> |> 
> |> > agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
> |> > tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)
> |> >
> |> 
> |> rev@cibbs.uucp / greg.ipp@rose.com
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>         "Hey man , Techno really addresses those issues which other music can't
> reach ..." what crap is this "techno can evoke more ... emotional response..." ?
> 

You do have something against me, don't you ... ? :)

> You trying to tell me that , for instance, "The Velvet Underground" , "Jimmy
> Hendrix" , "The 13th floor Elevators" , "Hawkwind" ,were never designed to be
> listened to either tripping out of your face or completely stoned ?
> Even if you weren't , the music was a bloody rollercoaster journey through your
> own conciousness ..... hey , good dance music has the exact same effect on me ,
> but you would be (are) totally wrong to even suggest that 'Techno' is the first
> type of music to do this ..... tell me , what have "My bloody Valentine" being
> doing for the last 10 (?) years , along with Primal Scream , and Spacemen 3 for
> instance ...
> 

  I listen (have listened) to My Bloody Valentine, (you can't 
include Primal Scream, they are chill-out/ambient in the rave sense) 
Ride, The Jesus & Mary Chain, and many other hypnotic/phsychadelically 
influenced bands from the 60s to the 90s. I don't get the same things 
from them as I do from like The Orb, or Primal Scream, or whatever. 
That's just me, get it? Thats how I feel, not how you have to, or how 
you should, or how I'm telling you to feel when listening to this 
music. I am not saying that Techno is the first genre to try capture a 
mood with the music alone (MBV lyrics are so back in the mix you can't 
hear them anyway), I am saying that it is the form of music that best 
captures it for me. If you want to send me flames, then do it through 
email, and stop putting words in my mouth... "how can you suggest that 
techno is the first music to do this..." I don't.  Try reading my 
original post again.  Its right there for you.

> Stephen Quigg
> squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
> British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
> (Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )
>

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