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From: randy@cellar.org (Randall Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Directory listing
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:47:12 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Another way to get at the directory is to use the interupts to get at the 
files.  All DOS wildcards then apply for the user, which is nice.  You can 
access the time and date (in addition to the file name, of course).  If you 
want more info on this technique, let me know.  Using the interupts to get at 
a directory is also much faster than shelling.

------
randy@cellar.org (Randall Cooper)
The Cellar BBS - (215) 654-9184
From: d8spaur@dtek.chalmers.se (Urban Spaennar)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: Directory listing
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:03:58 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <1992Apr9.191550.17084@bnlux1.bnl.gov> weiner@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov (Gary Weiner) writes:
>
>If anyone wants some good info on this, try FTPing to SIMTEL20 (or one of
>it's mirrors) and get the file qbnws101.arc. This is the first edition
>of the Quick Basic Newsletter.  It contains a discussion of this technique
>and a sample section of code.
>

Quick Basic Newsletter sounds very interesting. How do I subscride and
how do I get my hands on old letters?

      Thanks in future, Urban Sp{nnar.


--
Urban Sp{nnar, Datateknolog    Chalmers University of Technology,
d8spaur@dtek.chalmers.se       G|teborg, Sweden
From: weiner@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov (Gary Weiner)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: Directory listing
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:15:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: bnlux1.1992Apr9.191550.17084
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <D2wTiB2w164w@cellar.org> randy@cellar.org (Randall Cooper) writes:
>Another way to get at the directory is to use the interupts to get at the 
>files.  All DOS wildcards then apply for the user, which is nice.  You can 
>access the time and date (in addition to the file name, of course).  If you 
>want more info on this technique, let me know.  Using the interupts to get at 
>a directory is also much faster than shelling.


If anyone wants some good info on this, try FTPing to SIMTEL20 (or one of
it's mirrors) and get the file qbnws101.arc. This is the first edition
of the Quick Basic Newsletter.  It contains a discussion of this technique
and a sample section of code.





Gary J. Weiner  | Brookhaven National Laboratories  | "I'm not a bigot,
PO BOX 715      | National Synchrotron Light Source | I hate everybody!"
Upton,NY 11973  |    weiner@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov     |
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Subject: Re: storing directory into an array
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 09:28:47 GMT

dryan@cc.uow.edu.au (David Ryan) writes:

>				I was wondering if it were possible to shell 
>out to dos, do a directory listing, but then store that listing into an
>array so that I may have my way with the elements. 

Yes, do something like this:

SHELL "DIR xxx >TEMP"
OPEN "TEMP" FOR INPUT AS 1
n=-1:REM First pass: count lines
WHILE NOT EOF(1)
  LINE INPUT#1,a$:n=n+1
  WEND
CLOSE 1
DIM d$(n)
OPEN "TEMP" FOR INPUT AS 1
FOR i=0 TO n
  LINE INPUT#1,d$(i)
  NEXT
CLOSE 1
KILL "TEMP":REM Clean up!

The only problem is when you're going to interpret the contents.
The Dir comes with several lines of heading, the number being different
for different DOS versions. Also at the end you get one or more extra
lines. And until now I didn't find a foolproof method to determine whether
a line is a line with an entry (file or subdir) or belongs to heading or
footing. You see, you *can't* use the date or time for this, as there
exist entries withouth these at all (don't know whether this is a sort
of corruption, but it exists). This part is a whole mess. I just 
hardcoded the numbers of head and footlines into my program.

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to  \\  Only my personal opinions... 
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
From: jpadres@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Jorge Padres Ballesteros)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: PDS Basic!!
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:28:02 GMT
Organization: I.T.E.S.M. Campus Monterrey

Hi !
i bought a book from peter norton ... and he talks about a PDS
(profesional develpment system) basic ... and i want to know if someone
heard about this ? or is this Basic for public Domain ?
i just want to know more about iy
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: garys@bluemoon.rn.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: GFA Basic
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 23:54:04 EDT

I just read the latest issue of ProBasic, and as I have an ST, and am 
learning how to program in GFA Basic for it, I was delighted to see an 
article in the magazine this month for GFA...It represented the product 
very well, and showed off the power of GFA compared to Visual Basic for 
the IBM for Windows...There is also an ad in the first page of the mag for 
GFA for Windows...I am happy cause I want to use GFA to program IBM 
applications on my ST, and was glad to see how much good stuff was said 
about it...I would NEVER buy Visual Basic now!!  I think GFA will take 
over the Window programming market soon now...Just need somebody to write 
a book on how to use it, as the docs are not weak, just hard to learn...

        Gary

 This is from
     garys@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 16:51:12 EDT
From: <RPT378@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: input mixed $ and real?

Help!  A compiled program I use (can't access the code) produces an ASCII file
with header info. enclosed in double quotes followed by an array of real number
s.  How can I input only the real numbers for further processing.  I have tried
 to input the string variables to dummy $ variables, but no matter what number
of dummies I use, I still get the "input past end" error and it kicks me out of
 the program.  I am using and ancient release of gwbasic (1988?).  This is driv
ing me nuts and I can't find out how to do it in any of the BASIC books around.
Thanks for your help!  Larry Zibilske
From: d8spaur@dtek.chalmers.se (Urban Spaennar)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Halted program with QB 4.00b?
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:55:23 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

Has anyone haved any problem with QB 4.00b?

I'm having a very strange problem with an IBM-AT and my program, that
is compiled with QB 4.00b. QB 4.00b is a version that I got directly
from Microsoft in Sweden because my QB 4.00 was making very strange
errors. I don't now how common QB 4.00b is.

I am using my program with an IBM-AT to read some PLC and a few other
instrument that measures flow. It all is in an chocolate factory.
The computer is standing by it's own and making day-, month- and
year reports. Once a week a person visit the computer to print out the
reports that is made last week.

Now the problem is that the computers just stops to work. The only way
to 'make it alive' again is to reboot the machine. When this happens I
loose all of the measurements, with the result that the reports isn't
to rely on. The stops always seem to happen at midnight.

I have my ideas that the problem could be with the QB 4.00b becasue of
all the problem that i have had with QB 4.00. I'm using 'ON TIMER' and
have a battery backup clock, maybe that causes something stranged. Or
could it be anything to do with the DOS version, now I can't remember
the version of the DOS. A nother thought that have occured to me is
that it maybe could have something to do with the extra ports. I have
4 extra ports besides the 2 standard (com1: and com 2:). And that some
kind of disturbanes occur on the line that makes the computer to halt.
The computer halts nearly once a month.

Please help me!

I have also interviewed the person that every week print out the
reports. He is not used to computers and all he does is the press the
right button and there after enters the date of the report that he
want to have printed. But hes saying that so far he can remenber the
time on the screen, I always print out the time and date, it shows
23:59. One minute to midnight. The strange thing is that my program
doesn't do anything special at midnight, that it doesn't do every
other full hour.

For the time beeing, while I'm waiting for your answers, I have
recompiled the program with QB 4.5 and taken away all the 'ON TIMER'.

             Thanks in the future, Urban Sp{nnar.




--
Urban Sp{nnar, Datateknolog    Chalmers University of Technology,
d8spaur@dtek.chalmers.se       G|teborg, Sweden
From: cermak@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rob Cermak)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Answer (GW-BASIC)
Keywords: GW-BASIC
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:14:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

%%To: RPT378@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
%%Subject: Re: input mixed $ and real?
%%References: <92098.165112RPT378@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

Try this basic program to put your file back together.
You will have to manipulate the X$ when you read your file however.

Since you are in GW-basic I will resort to line numbers (EEEK!)

10 OPEN"I",1,"<FILE IN QUESTION>"
20 OPEN"O",2,"<Recovered OUTPUT>"
25 REM ** Loop until end of file **
30 IF EOF(1) THEN GOTO 110        
35 LINE INPUT #1,X$
40 REM from this point on do what you need to do to the data using
50 REM MID$(x$,x,y) LEFT$(x$,x) RIGHT$(x$,x) INSTR(x$,x,y) and others
60 REM using a reference book of GW-Basic.  And re-write your 
70 REM results to another file.
80 REM You can replace LINE INPUT with D$=INPUT$(1,1) but this
90 REM will give you a character by character account of the file.
100 GOTO 20                    
110 CLOSE
120 END

Hope this helps!
Rob
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: jwf@stortek.com (john flaherty)
Subject: Re: carp on lures (was: Freshwater Fighting Fish)
Organization: Storage Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:23:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.141214.6356@ncsu.edu>:
>I was reminded of the carp last night because my fishing partner caught 
>a 14# carp while bass fishing by twitching a jointed rapala 
>on the surface.  I have caught carp on dough before, but have never 
>heard of them hitting lures before, has anyone else? 
>
One fine spring morning while I was visiting one of the local fishing holes,
I happened across an inlet just packed FULL of baitfish.  The inlet went 
upstream to a spillway structure where the water level was a couple feet 
below the edge of the concrete so the small fish had nowhere to go.  I watched
for a little while and noticed the horde of baitfish would churn and split
and I would see a carp shoot through.  Since I had shown up at this hole
set on catching some dinner crappie,  I was only carrying my ultralight gear
this day, but decided none the less to give it a go for these carp.  I dug
around and found some jigs in my tackle with those rubbery silver shad bodies,
tied one on and cast into the middle of the churnings when they would appear.
I would catch a carp on almost every cast!  MAN was this fun!  Each one would
take me a good while to bring in on 2lb line and all,  but all I had to do was
let the last one go, make a cast and I was into another one.  Good fun!

  till I ran out of jigs...  Oh, well.  Never did go get the crappie.

John Flaherty
  jwf@atlantis.stortek.com
-- 
John Flaherty       jwf@atlantis.stortek.com
From: bourman@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Bob Bourman)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:24:47 GMT
Subject: Re: keeping worms alive
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.fishing

I have used corn meal and coffee grounds, but the bedding and worm food sounds
like the way to go...
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Beginner looking for rod
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:11:19 GMT

dak@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (David Kardelis- I am the NRA) writes:

>	Several people said I forgot to mention what kind of fishing 
>I would be doing in my request for a rod. I would be doing freshwater
>fishing, ocean is way to far away from the plains of Illinois. The area
>has a several small lakes and streams. The last time I went fishing I 
>caught a 10" bass that was the biggest a friend had seen in ages.

If you want a really durable, virtually unbreakable rod, try a Berkley
roughneck.  Just to prove their point, Berkley drove a jeep back and
forth over a roughneck and a rhino rod.  The rhino was mush, the roughneck
worked perfectly.  My favorites are the Berkley lightning rods, 7 foot,
both bait casting and spinning.  They are not that expensive, very light,
great action and sensitivity.  I can throw 1 ounce spoons 75 yards with
them and yet also throw 1/8 oz jigs.  Since you are local, get me a call
and I'll put you on a lot bigger bass than 10". -Roger  244-3652.
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Subject: Re: those damned environmentalists
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:26:09 GMT


When I worked at Texas Parks & Wildlife, it was common knowledge
among those of the non-possumcop persuasion that the main source
of degradation in the Texas estuaries was the building of dams
on the rivers that provide fresh water to the bays. The increasing
salinity of these waters doesnot provide optimum nursery
habitat for the affected species.
-- 
Ted....
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd)
Subject: re: C&R Questions
Originator: cloyd_j@face_plant
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:41:43 GMT

>Do you fish for sport or subsistence or both? 
Sport, relaxation & quiet.

>Do you feel that since you fish you have to keep the fish? (world perception)
No, I see no need to justify my fishing.

>Do you feel Catch and Release makes a difference?
Sometimes, but it depends on the fishery. There are places where I feel put &
take is appropriate, where fish wouldn't have a good chance of holding over.

>Would you like to see more Catch and Release only water?                   
Only where appropriate to restore a depleted fishery, to protect native
populations, etc. I would not advocate more C&R in waters that rely solely
stocking unless it can be proven that conditions would permit natural
reproduction in the future. Some people do need to fish to feed themselves,
they gotta have somewhere to go.

>Do you think you can make a difference by using Catch and Release?           
Yes, but I'm only 1/2 of the equation. The water quality must be protected
to make it worthwhile.

>Do you fish for Trophies only? and do you keep them?
Life is competitive enough without worrying about trophies ! But if I were to
catch the fly rod record skate I'd release that too.

>Do you feel the waters in your area are declining or rising?
I think the salt water fishing is rising, but the fresh water is declining.

>What methods of control are used on these waters?
Salt water has size, bag and season limits on stripers, and bag limits on
bluefish this year. Sea run browns have all of these plus artificials only.
Fresh water has all kinds of regs, but overdevelopment has hurt the lakes.

>Are we ever going to have a president that gives a Damn?
I'll have you know that George Bush is the Environmental President. Why I
myself personally have seen him out there fishing, in his nautical penis -
extension burning untold gallons of gas in fruitless pursuit of bluefish.
OK, well probably not in the next 4 years....
But even though the past couple have been environmental antichrists, we got
a lot of other people in Washington who are at least as bad. And because
the whole nation doesn't have to vote for them we have a much better shot
at nuking them and getting someone better in there. Act locally.

                                                                jc
From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Oregon/Washington fishing trouble??
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:02:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

When I stated that population growth is the root of the problem, I'm
at least mostly right.  Population growth doesn't just mean "more
fisherpersons and hunters".  The primary effect is on the habitat, i.e.
not just building dams on rivers, but clear-cutting forests (warms up
the head waters, fills creeks with silt which covers spawning gravel).
Population size is the reason for cutting wood...everyone would like to
own a house...without paying through the nose for it.  Specialized loggin
g practices such as requiring all cutting to be only trees within some
slot limit are the best idea, but it also raises the cost of the wood
to the consumer, hence the clear-cuts.  Also we have expanding towns
and the related polution (etc.).  These changes are gradual, but they are
there...ever see any old black & white photos of the days when anyone
who wanted to could rack up a few dozen trout pushing the 20" mark...in a
single day?  Some places even had bounties on certain types of trout such
as the Dolly Varden.  They believed the Dolly (and Brookie..) ate the
salmon eggs and that hurt the salmon industry.  Of course they learned
later that most of the free-floating eggs are unfertilized anyway and 
that all species of trout eat the eggs, even the salmon eat their own
eggs, so a bounty is dumb.  There's been a lot of hurtful trial and
error learning in the hatchery business too.  And there will be more..
it's not a well understood fishery tool.  If it weren't for population
growing in the various areas of the country, then those areas would not
have gone through these experiences.  We need to concentrate on low-impact
lifestyles and practices, including harvest methods of *every* natural
resource..since they are all so deeply related to each other.  That's 
what I mean when I say "population growth" is the root of the problem.
It is.

Brian Dixon
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: RGDURH01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (FLORIDIOT)
Subject: Re: Canoe Transportation
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:51:44 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

Lance Miller writes:

/I need information on purchasing or even constructing something that 
/would enable me to carry my 17 ft. Coleman canoe by myself.  I can 
/load and unload it be myself on my truck but carrying it much distance 
/at all is too much for me to handle.  There are times when I would 
/like to go fishing but can't find a partner to help carry the beast  
/down to the old-bass-pond.   I once seen a guy wheel his row boat down 
/the the pond on what look like a home-made job, made out of try-cycle 
/wheels strapped to th     
/of the b  
/Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Sorry if the post is a repeat 
/but wasn't able to logon to the net for awhile.	        

This rig for canoes is commercially available from Campmor (I'll try to 
remember to bring the address Monday) priced in the $125-$150 range as 
I recall.  The wheels on the one in the campmor catalog look like BMX 
bike front wheels.....should roll well over rough terrain.

Rick "Floridiot" Durham

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: Re: Bass Rod Choice
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:19:23 GMT

To heck with all these japanese rods...I, for one, support buying
American.  You can't tell me there aren't American made rods which
are just as good or better than the rods which help out foreign
economies.  How about some American suggestions?

BD
From: tom@oracorp.com (Tom)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Freshwater Fighting Fish
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:52:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York

In article <1992Apr8.141214.6356@ncsu.edu> plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
>I was reminded of the carp last night because my fishing partner caught 
>a 14# carp while bass fishing by twitching a jointed rapala 
>on the surface.  I have caught carp on dough before, but have never 
>heard of them hitting lures before, has anyone else? 


I've caught them on a white miller dry fly before.  Tbe carp probably thought
the fly was bread thrown in the water to feed the ducks.  Anyway, by far the
biggest fish I've ever taken on a dry fly.  Probably will be too, unless I
can get Atlantic Salmon fishing someday AND catch a salmon on a dry fly.

-- Tom
From: sasayb@caneel.unx.sas.com (Andy Barnhart)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Leader attachment (RE: Fly line to 2#)
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:31:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasayb@caneel.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 919

I use a leader butt (not to be confused with the butt of the leader; don't
ask me who named them) on the end of my fly line. It's about a foot long,
made of kind of a meshed nylon braid line with a loop at the leader end,
and a "chinese finger trap" type arrangement for the fly line. You slide a
little bit of your fly line inside the leader butt, then slide down the
collar provided with it (I put a dab of glue on under the collar). They are
available at a lot of sporting goods stores. You can then attach your leader
with a loop to loop connection. this allows you to swap leaders on a regular
basis without damage to the fly line or leader. When I lived in Colorado,
I fished some lakes which had trout and pike. I used very different leaders
when fishing a tiny nymph vs. a large fur strip streamer. You can also take 
off the leader for storage; they tend to jam in the fly line when wound into
the reel.

Andy
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: welch@sacral.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch)
Subject: Re: Canoe Transportation
Originator: welch@sacral.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: OSU-LAIR
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:34:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.134753.25843@lsil.com> miller@lsil.com (Lance Miller) writes:

        I need information on purchasing or even constructing something
        that would enable me to carry my 17 ft. Coleman canoe by myself.

Hmm, by an amazing coincedence my LLBean catalog arrived today, and it
lists the following:

Heavy Duty Folding Boat Cart:
Moves a loaded canoe, kayak, or small boat from vehicle to shore with
ease. Stron, rust-resistant steel frame supports most watercraft up to
300 lbs. blah blah blah... $169.

This is the only place I've seen it, but there are probably other
distributors.

...arun
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arun Welch
Lisp Systems Programmer, Lab for AI Research, Ohio State University
welch@cis.ohio-state.edu
From: mccreery@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCREERY, TOM)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Stunted Pond
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:43:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The Pond you're describing sounds like a problem we had in North Dakota
when I was doing research with ND game and Fish.  They had a kiddie pond
for 16 and under fisherman that was chock full of 1-3" bluegills.  They
solved it by netting out most of the bluegills and stocking some bass.
One of my advisers in grad school said when he retired he'd have a pond
with bluegill and bass and a big flathead catfish lurking on the bottom.
You'll definitely have to cut your bluegill population.  I prefer predation
or netting to rotenone however.
Tom Man of Science
From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: gold plated reels
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:14:22 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Apr7.172234.15610@apollo.hp.com>, cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd) writes:
|> Damned yuppie baitcasters don't actually *fish*
|> with these reels - they use them as hood ornaments
|> on their Land Rovers. I tell ya, next they'll be
|> using brie for catfish bait...

Oops, I'd better take the reel off my rod and put it on my 
Lamborghini...
Newsgroups: alt.fishing