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From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Counting
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:03:20 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon.

Hi All!  Here is another of my ramblings for your perusal.  C&C always
welcome.  

 
          Counting


Count your blessings my nana said
and never forget what you have
I listened and did as I was told
for I was only five.

Count your blessings she said to me
I wondered at the time
For she had nothing it seemed to me
But I was only nine.

Count your blessings she always said
I wondered as I did
For she had nothing that I could see 
But I was just a kid.

I count my blessings just as she said 
Yet wonder as I do
For she had nothing and now she's gone
And I am forty-two.


     Marguerite K.A. Petersen
     March 30, 1992

P.S.  For all those with whom I have conversed in email about being out
of work.  I would like to announce that I have FINALLY! found employment.
I'd like to especially thank everyone who was supportive and *all* the
posters on this newsgroup for the interesting time you have given me. 
I may have less time to read and post in the future but I shall try to
keep up.  Thanks everyone!

Marg
petersm@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
a.k.a. Elvira
From: denelsbe@washington.cs.unc.edu (Kevin Denelsbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Body Language
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:39:29 GMT

This is a first draft, which I'd appreciate comments on from those
interested.  I suppose it qualifies as "blank" verse...  :->


		Body Language

	The quiet surrounds you, though you're no mute;
	For why waste breath when a simple salute
	Or facial expression or subtle pose
	Says more to me than spoken prose?
	I hear your body when it's talking so
	And I understand when it tells me "  ".
	Which is all the time; the deafening din
	Of silent denial is wearing thin.
	I think you enjoy the role of the tease --
	To torture my body when it's crying "      !".
	I wanted a peace; but truer success
	Will come to me when your body says "   ".
	For this I promise, when I hover above you:
	That my eyes will softly murmur "          ".

---------
Kev @ UNC
4/8/92
From: ktw@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Ken Wolman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: On Reading a New Poet
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:00:55 GMT
Organization: AT&T


ON READING A NEW POET

I love discovering new poets.

This afternoon I discovered Bukowski,
but that isn't the point, he isn't the point:
it could have been Lydgate for all I cared.

When I read new words, it's like I
popped a giant Ativan and washed it down
with a few fingers of Absolut:

I get this nice, placid feeling of well-being:
a rush, the last legal high of the middle-aged,
and everything seems possible,

even my own work, My Tasks, that I stare at
with the feeling I'm banging my head
against a cast-iron door,

and the ringing I hear, redounding hollowness,
is inside my own head, and the door will wait me out.
I put aside the latest fight I had with my wife

this morning: still unsettled, another
smoldering bunch of oil soaked rags
stinking of last summer's grass cuttings

and lawnmower oil and the books I hauled here
from graduate school so long ago so they
could grow mildew and rot in their cardboard boxes.

And I feel better.


Kenneth Wolman, April 16, 1992
From: sheila@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sheila)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: ah!
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:33:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


say "ah!"
and i will tickle
your tongue with this grass popsickle stick!

hehe, actually, it would probably sound better with
	say "ah!"
	and i will tickle 
	your tongue with this green popsickle stick!

and that makes me think of eating a lime 
popsickle and wagging a green tongue at people.
but i wanted to think of teasing someone into
opening their mouth and sticking a stalk of grass
into it...maybe i like the lime popsickle better!
tackle?
hahaha. ;)
-- 
stark raving sane -- sheila@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
From: glj27240@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the cult of Carrie )
Subject: Re: the business of poetry
Keywords: condolences
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:56:20 GMT

jjwebb@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:

>You're going to get the black man into the room, huh? ... talking about
>Rilke, Goethe, and Foucault? How about Gil Scott Heron, Le Roi Jones and 
>Ferlinghetti?

what makes you think the black man isn't already in the room, struggling
to get free?  what makes you think that 'getting in the room' is the means
by which the black man wishes to realise liberation?  please, talk to me
about the black man in the university (at least in the doorway of the room. -?)
tell me about the centuries of suppression and dominance imposed long after
that by mere physical means the denial of language.  start by recalling 
Frederick Douglass' passages about learning to read (what it meant to him,
the sensations it produced); we could say history proceedes from what he
ultimately chose with his physical 'freedom'.  

namely, and what since have been the arenas from which 'freedom from
dominance' have been lanuched, the question of equality or liberation.
"the black man" you talk of, if you truely mean this unilaterally, is
a myth.  the same question, one of being (temporarily?) content with
seeking equality within the extant system or a virtually unqualified
opposition to the entire 'machine'.  or do you believe that only the
former is a possiblity, and thus the engagement in 'press releases'
for any 'minority' acting as an assimilatory synaps between the un-
expressed (and perhaps inexpressable, i.e. in the rhetoric of the
machine) and the larger 'machine' itself by expressing the former in
the language of the latter.  understand this is no statement meant to
reflect on yourself, i have no idea what you do; but you understand
the point.

my own point would be this:  i don't think any individual has the
responsibility to get 'the black man' or 'women' or any other group
'into the room' (nor on these terms) unless this is their specific
agenda.  standing in a position to by whatever means attack the
fundamental structures of this machine, or any system, _and doing so_
 - is not, i believe, the stance of absovling oneself of this
 responsibility, even if this responsibility is imaginary.  this
 responsibility lies elsewhere (namely within the system which it
 itself readily avows).  yet it is precisely the situation that this
 responsibility 'lies' there that makes it seem ridiculous to demand,
or even expect, all who oppose this system to do so working from
withing.  at one level we may put it as simply as this:  it is either
enabeling the suppressed to operate on a level approaching that of the
machine or by focusing on the machine exposing it in all its 'absurdity'
(concerning just these matters).  the same question of equality or
liberation (_or_ liberation) and from where one thinks this is possible.

as to this question --- 'the black man', as you say, is himself not of
one disposition.  neither is the black woman.

-- 
							 
                                                  the cult of Carrie 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
From: squacken@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Black Dreaming Unicorn)
Subject: Re: The Business of Poetry
Keywords: Sherri, not Steve
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 22:29:18 GMT

WAAAAAAAA!!!!! no one likes all my bazillion poems that I posted...
*pout* 

*blackMist*

(i could always post the other 200, but I think a few people
might kill me)
From: casteley@phil.ruu.nl (Eric Casteleyn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: silly haiku
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:41:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands


      wherever I am
  I can always go away
     and never get there


           EJC- le dweeb
From: cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: City of Angels
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:41:28 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <ku0vb6INN9vb@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
>
>Why doesn't anyone laugh at the line "nobody gets a hole in one their
>first time at bat"??
>
>	-- Anita --

To me, that's only mildly amusing. However, when my wife and I were in
NY, Stine came out with that line about "pencil envy". We were the only
two people in the whole theatre laughing. Maybe I've just got a strange
sense of humor...:-)

							Chris Wilcox
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry)
Subject: Re: High-school play suggestions?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:07:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.130332.17740@psych.toronto.edu> dsy@psych.toronto.edu (Desiree Sy) writes:
>In article <1992Apr4.205923.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsrla@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>>Does anyone out there have any suggestions for a good play
>>that could be performed by a small high-school group.  Most
>>of the cast female with very little scenery?????

Life's rough when you're an adolescent female without much scenery;
well do I remember it.

Oh, you wanted to know some plays?

THE WOMEN, Clare Boothe Luce.

;-)  Okay, it fails the "good play" criterion... but you could have
     lots of fun with it as a period piece.  Has lots of juicy
     female roles.

THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST, Oscar Wilde.  
      The butler and the cleric could
      easily be played by women in drag; can you dig up
      two male juvenile leads?  Many of the juicy bits
      go to Lady Bracknell, Cecily, and Gwendolen anyway.
                                                                      
THE SKIN OF OUR TEETH, Thornton Wilder.  
      May not have enough parts to keep everybody happy, come to think 
      of it.  How small is "small"?  (How recently have
      you done OUR TOWN?  The Stage Manager can easily be female.
      But for God's sake DON'T try to do the New Hampshire accents.)

-- 
Betsy Hanes Perry   (note P in userid)     betsyp@apollo.hp.com
Cooperative Object Computing Division,     Hewlett-Packard, Inc.
We're readers, readers, readers of the Open Range...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: jules@juliet.caltech.edu (Julie C. Hiroto)
Subject: Sondheim's Merrily We Roll Along
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Keywords:  Sondheim
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:25:00 GMT

I've recently discovered the cast album and vocal selections for Merrily We Roll
Along (1982?), based on the Kaufman and Hart play (c. 1930's) of the same name.
I'm trying to find the "book" and I'm told that it's never been published.  
Is there someone out there in musical.theatre.land (Jon Conrad -- this could be
you) who has the script from a well meaning university production?  I'm not
trying to produce it, or even do an unauthorized monologue--I just want to 
*read* it, I swear.  Any other ideas?  Thanks in advance -- E-mail or postings.
From: ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Favorite Musicals
Date: 13 Apr 1992 22:18:30 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

Gosh, questions like these just _have_ to be answered:

My favourite musicals:

1.  Showboat (beautiful love songs, good story)
2.  A Chorus Line (just like an audition)
3.  City of Angels (songs in my range)
4.  Brigadoon (love the story)
5.  The Sound of Music (hokey as it is, makes me cry, uplifts me)

-- Anita --



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Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: jhl2f@maple.cs.Virginia.EDU (James H. Leatherby)
Subject: Big River
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 15:48:48 GMT

I was just asked to play in the orchestra for the musical "Big River."
Not having ever heard of it, could someone give me an idea of what this
musical is about and what kind of songs to expect?

thanks,
Jim


-- 
* James Harvey Leatherby         *         jhl2f@virginia.edu                *
* Department of Computer Science * You alone can make my song take flight... *
* University of Virginia         * It's over now, the music of the night...  *
* Charlottesville, VA  22903     *         -- The Phantom of the Opera       *
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: dickson@nevada.edu (JON THUMIM)
Subject: Re: Favorite Musicals
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:35:47 GMT

In article <kucmi2INNaa@aludra.usc.edu> jameskau@aludra.usc.edu (James Kaufman) writes:
>Here's a question:  What are your favorite (top five, top ten) musicals?  I'd
>probably go with:
>1) Miss Saigon
>2) Phantom of the Opera
>3) Jesus Christ Superstar
>4) Evita
>5) Sweeney Todd/Into the Woods
>Other musicals that ranks up there for me include Aspects of Love, Les Miz,
>Hair, and 1776.  I haven't seen (or heard too much of) Chess or The Secret
>Garden, but I heard they're pretty good.  Other opinions?
>James Kaufman
>jameskau@aludra.usc.edu
>
>
I must say that my favorites include:
1) Les Miserables
2) Once On This Island
3) The Secret Garden
4) Chess
5) Miss Saigon
6) Phantom of the Opera
7) A Chorus Line

That is all.  I have the soundtracks to these and I also have the
soundtrack to Anything Goes with Patty LuPone.  It is good, but I
really don't like the show.

Peace.
Jon
 

Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: aku@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Chia-Tso Ku)
Subject: Re: McKellen's Richard III
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 03:55:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.153914.190@PacBell.COM> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
>> VBSTOKES@pucc.Princeton.EDU writes:
>>I see that the Royal National Theatre is doing a tour of McKellen's
>>Richard III, with performances at the Brooklyn Academy of Music in
>>June. Does anyone know where else the tour will be going?
>
>It's coming to San Francisco at some point. 

It will be playing at the Curran Theatre in SF in August.

Andrew
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: davidf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Fristrom)
Subject: THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL on record
Reply-To: davidf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Fristrom)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:46:53 GMT

I just picked up a new CD called THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL, from Angel.
It is from a work-in-progress that would obviously like to end up on
Broadway.  The composer is Frank Wildhorn and the lyricist is Nan
Knighton; I'm not familiar with either of them.  The recording stars
Linda Eder, which is a name I'm sure I've heard but which I just can't
place, and the ubiquitous Chuck Wagner in the title role.

Making a musical out of "The Scarlet Pimpernel" is a nice idea.  It's
a great story, not too complicated, with high romance and dashing
heroism -- and a lot of the kind of emotions that should make people
break out in song.  As an added bonus, it's set during the French
Revolution (the real one this time :-)).

I haven't fallen instantly in love with the recording, but I'm
reasonably impressed.  We're not talking Sondheim here, but there are
some nice tunes and pretty good lyrics.  The style is somewhat uneven,
ranging from a contemporary pop sound to psuedo-18th century.  This
problem is exagerated somewhat on the recording by the decision to
make some of the songs more "accessible" by using pop arrangements;
presumably when and if the show gets on a stage some of these outrages
will be fixed.

Given a strong book (there is no indication of who is doing the book)
and a few changes, I think they could have a winner here.  However,
there is one worrying trend.  From the plot synopsis and the songs,
they appear to have beefed up the role of the Pimpernel's wife more
than I remember it from the book (although it has been some time since
I've read it).  Nothing wrong here -- you want a strong female lead --
but they appear to have downplayed the Pimpernel too much.  She gets
lots of songs bewailing her lot (married to a many she loved who has
turned into a useless fop, in exile from her native France), but the
Pimpernel only gets to bravely exhort his followers or play the fool
as Sir Percy.  He badly needs an introspective song bewailing HIS lot
(married to a woman he (falsely) believes betrayed people to the
Terror).

I will be following future news of this show with interest.

David Fristrom		|
Interleaf, Inc.		|  "They seek him here, they seek him there,
davidf@ileaf.com	|   Those Frenchies seek him everywhere."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: jmb5b@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman)
Subject: Re: Lea Salonga as Eponine
Organization: University of Virginia
Ireallyam: jmb5b
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:14:42 GMT

In article <ku19kfINNk43@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST101019@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>
>I wish I had heard her talk at UPenn....I think she would make a fabulous
>Eponine, who is my favourite character in Les Miz. Is it just me, or are
>the women who play Eponine in stage productions uniformly undistinguished?
>I've seen Les Miz 5 times and I have to report with sadness that the best
>of the lot was Debbie Gibson - who would actually have been a lot better
>if she had tried to forget that she wasn't in a stadium belting out technopop
>to teenyboppers. I haven't heard the Broadway recording, but I didn't like
>the Eponine in the symphonic recording. I think most of them are way too
>whiny. The only Eponines that have appealed to me, IMHO, are the ones in
>the original London and Vienna recordings. I am still waiting for the
>definitive Eponine. What do people think?
Definitive Eponine (also my favorite character): FRANCES RUFFELLE
She was the one from both the original London and original Broadway, and I think it would be very hard to find another voice like hers.  I haven't seen Les Miz
*yet*, but judgining from the things I've heard on recording (mostly the Stage By Stage video, with some girl I can't remember the name of as Eponine), Ruffelle is definitely the best Eponine.  I'm bummed I didn't get to see les Miz when it came to D.C. before opening on Broadway.
Michelle carpick
University of Virginia
P.S. Ruffelle also got a Tony for Les Miz


Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: kraack@maestro.mitre.org (Steve Kraack)
Subject: Re: Interest in technical Theatre?
Reply-To: kraack@mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:32:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.144558.1325@newstand.syr.edu>, kiberkli@rodan.acs.syr.edu () writes:
|> Is there a newsgroup that discusses technical theatre, maybe specifically
|> lighting?
|> If there isn't a specific group, is there interests in this group?
|> 
|> Reply here or send me mail...
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> kib

I haven't seen one.  The closest is alt.stagecraft.  It is a brand new 
group and looks very interesting.  The possibilities for this group could
expand if the interest where there!  It seems to me that lighting would
appear under stagecrafts.  Any comments or ideas for a new newsgroup.
However, I think the basis has already been covered.

Stephen T. Kraack
kraack@mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: mwinches@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark D Winchester)
Subject: Comic strip theatricals.
Followup-To: mwinches@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Summary: Adaptations of comic strips (books, etc.) to theatre.
Keywords: Theatre, adaptations, comic strips, comic books.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:10:11 GMT


I am working on my dissertation at The Ohio State University in theatre, 
writing on adaptations of comic strips, books, etc. to the theatre.

Aside from the more popular ones, if anyone has any information on what they 
believe to be a little know, or forgotten comic strip theatrical, please e-mail
me at   mwinches@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

Thanks.

See you in the funny papers!

--Mark D. Winchester
  Department of Theatre
  The Ohio State University
  mwinches@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: altinbay@alc.com (John Altinbay)
Subject: Re: Favorite Musicals
Organization: Ascent Logic Corporation, San Jose, CA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:28:53 GMT

In article <kuk25mINNjdf@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
- Gosh, questions like these just _have_ to be answered:
- 
- My favourite musicals:
- 
...
- 5.  The Sound of Music (hokey as it is, makes me cry, uplifts me)
- 

Is it hokey?  Why?

Last year, I saw a high school production of "The Sound of Music".
I had seen the movie twice, but I had never seen the play.

(Yes, it made me cry.)

What struck me about it above all was how very life-affirming
it is.  The messages of being true to yourself and your convictions
are very rare indeed.

Top it off with some really wonderful songs.

The only thing I hate about it is that awful (OK, hokey) song
"So Long, Farewell".  Unfortunately, it is integral to the plot.
-- 
MMIH   =============================================  altinbay@alc.com
            My existence led by confusion boats
                          Mutiny from stern to bough
altinbay@netcom.com  ===================================   - Bob Dylan
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Going to see Phantom!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:28:50 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Albuquerque NM

In article <1992Mar31.185005.7420@linus.mitre.org> kraack@mitre.org writes:
>I am trying to go see Phantom in New York sometime during the
>the weekend of April 10, 11.  I am in Washington D.C.  If
>anyone has any  suggestions on easy ways to get up there
>(ex. train) and tips on getting tickets I would much
>appreciative.  I have never been to NYC and thought I would 
>treat my brother for his birthday.

Not that I can help you with your situation but I just thought I'd share
with anyone who cares that I just got back from London where I was able
to see "Phantom".  Totally enchanting - the romance of the old theatre.
I was under its spell for days afterwards.  I gasped at each new set,
the costumes, and Webber's surprisingly delicate and touching score (for
the most part).

Good luck on getting tickets.  I hope the Broadway production gives you
the same joy I experienced in London.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       | 
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |    "A man without a newsgroup"
                                     | 
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: MORE High-School Drama
From: sweeney@uncavx.unca.edu
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:21:31 -0500
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: hotchkiss

How about inviting the Alaska Rep from Anchorage to do a residency, or at 
least a performance and day of classes?  Surely your swollen athletic revenues
can afford that!

Paul Sweeney
University of North Carolina at Asheville
(North Carolina has mandated classes by *drama certified* teachers K-12)