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From:         Hye Ok Park <hyeok@ZIMMER.CSUFRESNO.EDU>
Subject:      PRINTERS FOR CIRC.
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X-cc:         jinyong@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU

While we are on the subject of EPSON printers with GEAC interface
cards, I would like to ask if anyone has experienced difficulties with
printing circulation inserts and receipts using the same type of
printers and cards.

We have several EPSON FX-850s with GEAC Interface 8511 installed in
Circ.  Normally they print all right.  But once in a while just when
they are at the point of printing receipts or inserts, the terminals
get frozen.  For a while we thought that it was just a READU.LOCK
problem and tried to clear the hangups by clearing READU.LOCKS.  But
then we noticed that, if we reset the printer or the terminal (Shift/Setup),
the locks get cleared.  The problem with this solution is that we miss
out on receipts and inserts by clearing the communication.

Any explanations and/or solutions?

-- Hye Ok Park
   CSU,Fresno
   hyeok@zimmer.csufresno.edu
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From:         Richard Griffin <griffinr@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      serials module COPY SET DELETION
X-To:         turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU, ADVANC-L@IDBSU.BITNET

          The password for copy set deletion is likely to be "Geac" or
          "Advance".  We don't have version 4 yet so I can't try it,
          but that is the password for clearing the patron load file.
          Of course, now that it's on a bulletin board, it's not much
          use as a password, but, then, does that really matter...

          Richard Griffin  - Oregon State Univ.
          (griffinr@ccmail.orst.edu)
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From:         "BONNIE MCNEELY, TWU LIBRARY SYSTEMS" <S_MCNEELY@TWU.BITNET>
Subject:      SCREEN PRINTERS FOR OPACS

Greetings from Texas Woman's University
     We need to add some additional printers for OPAC screen printers,
and purchased several Epson LX-810 with Epson Serial adapter board #8143, the
problem is that we cannot get them to work with our Wyse 185 terminals.
     I am interested in knowing if anyone has Epson printers with the Wyse 185
terminals.  We have a number of older FX series printers but they all have the
"former GEAC serial interface adaptor boards because it was our only choice
with the GEAC 8000 system.
     Thanks,
                  Bonnie McNeely (S_McNeely@venus.twu.edu)
                                 (S_McNeely@twu.bitnet)
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From:         Mitch Turitz <turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: serials module COPY SET DELETION
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              Aug 13, 92 9:47 am

Richard - thanks for the suggestion.  Unfortunately, those, and other
"likely" passwords did not work when I tried them.

There is NO INDEX in the 4.0 users manual and no new setup manual
(just ONE revised page to insert into the 3.0 manual).  So there is
no obvious help from the manuals.

I also have a question about the PO #s in the copy set holdings.  Are
those supposed to be automatically supplied by the system from the
link to Acquisitions?  (Manual says it is supposed to come from the
PO#/LINE# field of the ORD - ORDERING DATA screen).  (I think I
just answered that question)


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On 8/13/92, Richard Griffin said:

>           The password for copy set deletion is likely to be "Geac" or
>           "Advance".  We don't have version 4 yet so I can't try it,
>           but that is the password for clearing the patron load file.
>           Of course, now that it's on a bulletin board, it's not much
>           use as a password, but, then, does that really matter...
>
>           Richard Griffin  - Oregon State Univ.
>           (griffinr@ccmail.orst.edu)
>
>
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From:         Mitch Turitz <turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      password
X-To:         Doug Chaffe <Doug@buckaroo.geac.com>
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Doug - it now says "MARKED FOR DELETION" in the Holdings Copy Set, but
it is still there.  I don't know how to get it to actually go away.
As far as I can tell this is not covered in the manual.

For you Advanc-L people - Doug gave me the password, but
it is HARDCODED into the system (which is why there are no
tables to change it?).  Anyway, the system apparently took
the password, but now the holding copy set is still there.
It is unclear to me if some kind of job has to be run to
delete it.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:05:55 +1000
Reply-To:     Ben Ong <PSYLIB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
From:         Ben Ong <PSYLIB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Search for teaching software - thanks.
X-To:         edstat-l@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu

I have received just over 30 responses to my
 "Search for Software to Teach Statistics".

Packages suggested were MINITAB, DATADESK, JMP, STATVIEW,
SPSS, ISP, NCSS, SPIDA, BMDP and MYSTAT - the
most frequently mentioned being MINITAB, which
is available for both Mac and PC.

I will gather the software and printed materials for review
by our panel of four.  For now, I want to thank you for your
prompt and helpful suggestions.

Ben Ong
Psychology
La Trobe University
Bundoora, Victoria,
Australia 3083
From: jerry@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
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Subject: Re: Electronic Journal
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:12:24 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <9208171339.AA01413@umassmed.UMMED.EDU>, sbaker@UMASSMED.UMMED.EDU (Stephen Baker) writes:
> I was surprised
> by the emphatic disapproval of one member present for these proposals.  She
> didn't have electronic access and indicated her institution was very unsupport-
> ive in providing computing resources.  

I'm not surprised.  I've got lots of misgivings myself.  Not only is there the
question of access, but readers and authors have to worry about some things
called SMGL and LaTeX.  We're going through a painful period of transition in
technology.  Until access is near universal and readers of an electronic 
journal can issue commands like "let me read the thing" and "print it for me", 
publishers of electronic journals *must* be prepared to provide the contents in
"the old-fashioned way"--by subscription to a paperbound version.  I, for one,
would never submit an article to a journal that was unavailable to a large
percentage of the paper's intended audience. 
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From:         "Dr. Robert Hayden" <hayden@OZ.PLYMOUTH.EDU>
Subject:      mail to me
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We have been disconnected from the net for a week. They were trying to
upgrade our connectivity but I think someone made a sign error
somewhere, and we got a massive downgrade -- couldn't even send stuff
to the printer down the hall!!

Anyway, if anyone out there sent me mail, I did not get it, except for
one note from Tony L. Please try again. My outgoing mail was returned.
I am sending it out again.

Thanks.

--


      _
     | |          Robert W. Hayden
     | |          Department of Mathematics
    /  |          Plymouth State College
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 |     )          (603) 535-2489
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From:         Stephen Baker <sbaker@UMASSMED.UMMED.EDU>
Subject:      Electronic Journal
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The Section on Teaching Statistics in the Health Sciences voted to encourage
the journal, though it was not clear to me what the section's relationship
to the journal would be, either.  At that meeting, it sounded like the journal
was nearly ready to publish an issue and that the initiators were looking for
moral support.  I gathered that the section would have representation among
the editors and those in attendence were positive toward the journal, I don't
recall any kind of financial issues coming up at all.  We also voted to proceed
with an electronic repository of teaching materials and aids.  I was surprised
by the emphatic disapproval of one member present for these proposals.  She
didn't have electronic access and indicated her institution was very unsupport-
ive in providing computing resources.  It drove home the point that there is
a substantial group of statisticians and statistical educators who don't have\
access to the networks, indeed many are "computer illiterate".  As one of the
members of the committee to set up the resource repository, I feel it is
encumbent upon us to  provide alternative access to these materials for those
who do not have access, and secondly, to try to provide information on how
to access these materials to those who don't know how or do not have direct
access already.

By the second comment I mean that there are some organizations out there
that will provide access to the internet for a fee or for free, World.std.com
for example is an organization in Boston which will provide dial-up access to
a Unix system on the internet for a very small cost.  Compuserve also can
interchange e-mail from the internet.  I suspect there are gateway's to
fidonet also.

If anyone knows of free or inexpensive ways to access the internet from various
locations, I think they would be doing me and probably everyone a favor if they
let people know, and would post it either here or directly to me so that we
can help make these electronic resources available to others. Thanks.


Stephen P. Baker                                phone:  (508) 856-2625
Lecturer in Biostatistics                               (508) 856-2440 fax
Department of Academic Computing                        (413) 253-3923 home
University of Massachusetts Medical School      e-mail: sbaker@umassmed.bitnet
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Subject:      ADD TO LIST

 PLEASE PUT MY ACCOUNT NUMBER ON YOUR LIST.
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From:         k a r l o s <KHILL@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU>
Subject:      discussion group for covariance structure modeling?

To: EDSTAT-L@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU
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Hi!

I am currently in a group planning a fairly large study for this academic
year in which we intend to use Covariance Structure Modeling (probably
LISREL VI) to analyze the data, however, the PI is suggesting a design
which I just don't know if LISREL can handle. [She wants to embed a
within-subjects experimental manipulation into the design....were it
between-subjects I could see where we could use stacked models...all of the
literature that I can find on analyzing experimental designs using CSM
talks about _between_ subjects!].

I realize this is not the forum for this question, so I am asking if anyone
knows if there is a LISREL or CSM  discussion group that I might
pass this by, and how I might subscribe to it.
                                                  Thanks!

Karl G. Hill
Department of Psychology
Wellesley College
Wellesley, MA  02181

Internet:  KHILL@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU
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From: sandilands@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: Re: BEN ONG'S QUEST FOR SOFTWARE
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Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:32:51 GMT

In article <EDSTAT-L%92081101075204@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU>, JOE WARD 
<1MCJHW@UTSAVM1.BITNET> writes:
>I started using MYSTAT several years ago with both college and high school
> students.  There were several reasons (not listed in any particular order)
> that I started using MYSTAT (the BUSINESS version).
>    -- Leland Wilkinson has views about how to use regression models similar
>       to mine.  His booth at one of the professional meetings had a sign that
>       said "Ask me about "cell means" analysis!"
>    -- MYSTAT was "free" during the early  days, then became $5, then has
>       recently  become $14.25 from Course Technology.
> ....(Stuff deleted)
>
>IN SUMMARY -- TEACH STUDENTS TO USE CONCEPTS THAT ARE MADE POWERFUL BY THE
>    MODERN COMPUTER -- IF TIME PERMITS THEN TEACH THEM THE "OLD --PRE-COMPUTER"
>    APPROACH. BUT IF STUDENTS HAVE TIME FOR ONLY ONE COURSE THEN--
>      "GIVE THEM THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK" IN STEAD OF LEAVING THEM WITH
>    FRUSTRATION AND LITTLE OF VALUE IN THEIR OPERATINSL WORLD!

Last fall, I posted an inquiry on ED-STAT or STAT-L ( I forget which) about
people's recommendations re computer packages for teaching stats.  DATADESK won
hands down.  Someone advised against MYSTAT, but by the time that came in I had
decided to use MYSTAT (for the Mac) partly because the publisher of the book I
was using said it would be wrapped with the book and only $5 would be added to
the cost.  

It was a nightmare.  This was partly because I didn't have a lot of time to
prepare ahead of time for computer labs, but also because the Mac version of
MYSTAT is not really a Mac program.  It was written for IBM and on the Mac it
does funny, unexpected things (most of  which I have repressed by now).  Robert
Hale's book is good, but, again, I had not learned of its existence until it
was too late to order it for the students.  The manual that comes with the
program sucks big-time. In summary, if you want to use MYSTAT, order Hale's
book (Course Technology--One Main Street, Cambridge, MA 02142)--it's almost a
self-instruction book.  Otherwise, look elsewhere.  DATADESK is distributed by
Freeman.
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a) -PUHLEEZE sign your e-mail with your direct address.  When you
post to a LIST, it is necessary to enable a one-on-one reply

That being said, Ihave the folowing listed as U-Ind addresses
(I don't have further breakdowns, but sending to "Postmaster@(name)"
a POLITE request may do wonders)

Bitnet: INDYCMS, INDYMED, INDYVAX
csnet: Indiana.edu

let em know if it works,
danny

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Subject:      Commercial Networks Directory...
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Hello,    Does anyone know of a site that has files that contain listings of
accessible commercial networks and the methods to send mail to users on them
from bitnet..

And, does anyone know of a
postmaster -or like- account on compuserve.com where I can ask about addresses
of individuals on compuserve..???/

Thanx a million.
Shams             bitnet :   Shams@auc.eg        Shams@EGAUCACS
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Subject:      keremit problem

Hello,

 please can you help me to resolve a KERMIT problem.
 when i want to send a file from a local computer (PC) to a remote
 computer (VAX) running VMS with kermit protocol, an error message
 indicates that there is a buffer problem only with file which have
 a size more than 4142 bytes. To receive from the VAX there is no problem.
 we are running
  VMS Kermit32  V3.3.128 on the VAX
  PROCOMM PLUS version 1.1b on the PC

 your help will be very appreciated

 thanks


   E-MAIL   zouari@tnearn           <--- bitnet
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From: mccarty@netcom.com (Michael K McCarty)
Subject: Internet access into Galway?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 05:54:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Internet nodes in Galway, Ireland
Keywords: internet Galway ireland

Is there any Internet access to Galway, Ireland?  If not what is
the closest location within Ireland, and what is postmaster's 
address there? 
Thanks.
  Michael McCarty

-- 
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Dear Sir:
My name is Michael Yevsteshin. I live in Karaganda,Kazakhstan,UdSSR.
I have got some contacts with people,that live in Salzgitter,Germany,
but,unfortunatly,I havn't any email addresses there.It will be very
convinient if they involve into network.That's why I surch somebody,who
help them to get knowledge in this province.Could you tell me,please, a few
e-mail addresses in Salzgitter or give any advice to find these addresses.
Thank you for your help in adwance.

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From:         "Rich Travsky 3668 (307) 766-3663/3668"
              <RTRAVSKY@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      How Many WHOIS Servers Are There?
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I used to think there was only one whois server (nic.ddn.mil),
but recently I learned of a list of other whois servers (both
in and outside the U.S.).

So, do they all have the same information? Does registering with
one mean you've registered with all? What's the relationship among
them?

Thanx in advance for any insight on this. (Just when you think you
understand the system...)

Richard Travsky
Division of Information Technology     RTRAVSKY @ CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
University of Wyoming                  (307) 766 - 3663 / 3668
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From:         Stan Brunn <BRUNN@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Unemployment
              11 Aug 1992 22:01:40 EST from <HAMMERL@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

What kind of assistance is provide those who are unemployed in the Czech Republ
ic and Slovakia? and for how long?  SDBrunn
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From:         lhdsy1!HOVMB.HOU281.CHEVRON.COM!TKMARC@UUNET.UU.NET
Subject:      Do you trust Meciar?
X-To:         uunet!ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu!slovak-l@uunet.UU.NET

>>>After all, a renamed communist
>>> party is not a communist party, just like a repainted car is not a car.
>>>
>>     You're right and I'm glad we agree on something.  I never did
>>trust Rita Klimova, Miroslav Kusy, Vladimir Dlouhy, Marian Calfa, Jiri
>>Dienstbier and the rest of those Communists Havel and the Czech
>>government put into positions of trust.
>
>True, some of the ex-communists named above fared very poorly.
>Things might have been different (better) for C-S if they had been
>kept out. Maybe we can agree on more: what about Meciar and other
>Communists in the present Slovak govt--do you trust them?

Mr Frajkor: did I miss your response to the question immediately above?

--Kamil Marcinka (Internet address: tkmarc@hovmb.ion.chevron.com)
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