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From: sergio@ingres.com (Sergio L Aponte)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xloadimage won't set the root window on a DECstation
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:41:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

Date: 9 Apr 92 16:20:24 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.162024.21901@pony.Ingres.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.ultrix


	We have "ULTRIX V4.2 (Rev. 96) System #8: Thu Jan 30 10:34:37 PST 1992"

	We have xloadimage working here. The user has to do an xrefresh right
	after xloadimage. Try that. If it doesn't work let me know and I
	might be able to email you a copy of the compiled executable to try.

							Sergio

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From: shocking@cxbne.cx.oz.au (Steve Hocking)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: SpeedUp & DEC WRL Research reports.
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:02:27 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Comperex Australia Pty Limited

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:56:15 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr13.235615.5357@cxbne.cx.OZ.AU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.sysv


	Some time ago I posted an article which mentioned a paper from the
DEC WRL site which dealt with optimising performance of dumb Colour Frame
buffers. I received a few requests asking me how to get hold of this paper,
but have lost the bits of mail telling me who they were.

	The way you do it is by sending mail to
WRL-Techreports@decwrl.dec.com with "help" in the subject line. It will then
tell you how to ask for an index & how to get hold of the papers in various
formats. They have a lot of good stuff there - I'd strongly recommend
looking at it.

	Cheers,

	Stephen
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From: kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XDM nightmare
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:37:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:14:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr16.161417.28788@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <etstjan.703410685@dutepp13> JPMvOorschot@dnpap.et.tudelft.nl (Jan van Oorschot) writes:
>Hi,
>
>We are running a cluster of SUN's with sunos 4.1.2 (SOLARIS) combined
>with the X11R5 patch level 9. The SUN's are on the Campus ethernet
>connected to The Internet.
>
>     - start XDM's on most sun's. Everything works fine, lots of
>       people can start up X servers.

People run X servers?  Maybe you mean they can log in and run X applications?

>     - Let it run for a few hours/ a day.
>     - All XDM daemon have crashed, core files in the root directories
>       of the sun's that (used to) run XDM daemons.
>     - kill all bungling X servers,  restart XDM daemons, everything 
>       will run OK for a few hours.
>     

We run a similar setup; the exceptions being we're running SunOS 4.1.1
and X11R5 patch 10.

Are you certain the core files are from xdm?  I've never seen xdm core
dump.  For a long time we would consistently get core files from Xsun;
Sun's keyboard driver takes a long time to reset, xdm restarts Xsun
faster than the keyboard can reset, the ioctl to get the keyboard type
returns a -1, and the server "aborts", generating a core file.

The Xsun.multi-screen.R5.tar.Z file on export.lcs.mit.edu in /contrib
fixes that problem in addition to supporting multiple screens.  Whether
you choose to build that full server or not, you can find the solution
to the Xsun core dumps in sunKbd.c in that tar file.

-- 

Kaleb Keithley                               kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov

Not authorized, in any way, shape, or form, to speak for anyone.
From: koblas@mips.com (David Koblas)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Feature Request: X Windows Paint Program
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:17:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California

Date: 9 Apr 1992 20:34:49 GMT
Message-Id: <ku9aj9INNa6k@spim.mips.com>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.windows.x,alt.graphics.pixutils

I'm finally ging to do it, I going to write Xpaint 2.0!

Now, what i need is peoples sudgestions on what it should be able to do, 

For those of you who don't know what Xpaint 1.0 was, well it was this
rather crude attement and making a MacPaint like bitmap editor for
X Windows.  Well, I need to support Color and all that entails, ideas
are wanted.

Reply via email please.
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From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Motif vs Open-look vs X
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:42:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: none

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:53:31 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr14.195331.8866@alphalpha.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Apr8.221211.27335@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jarober@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (DE Robertson james an 410-740-9172) writes:
>	For Motif, it comes shipped on many platforms, and I believe that 
>the royalty (license ?) fee is $50.00 per app shipped. This is more
>expensive than OpenLook, but considering the cost of the average Unix
>app, it's not too bad.

There is not, and has never been, a royalty for shipping Motif
applications _unless_ you are also shipping the libraries separate
from the product.

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I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
From: pan@panda.stanford.edu (Doug Pan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help needed with remapping keyboard
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:50:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Stanford University

Date: 15 Apr 92 05:36:39 GMT
Message-Id: <PAN.92Apr15003639@panda.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'd like perform text select and paste from my keyboard and not have
to use the mouse buttons.  Is there a way?  Please reply by email.

Sorry if this is a FAQ.
From: ltg@pc-labor.uni-bremen.de (Lothar Guthmann)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Bug in xrn on rs6000/AIX3.1.5
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:29:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Bremen, pc-labor

Date: 10 Apr 92 15:18:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr10.151843.21414@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi folks,

I have the following problem with xrn:

After resizing the window of xrn i'm not able to post, reply or follow-up.
I got a popup window with the message "Caught signal 11..." or something
like that.
Version of xrn currently being used: 6.17

Any hints? Any patches?

Thanx in advance.

Lothar
From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: twm won't take IconRegion command in the .twmrc
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:33:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway

Date: 7 Apr 92 12:48:03 GMT
Message-Id: <STEINARB.92Apr7144803@tuja.idt.unit.no>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I have never gotten twm (whether it be Tom's or Tab, my .twmrc have
been following my in mutated versions all the way from X11R3) to take
the IconRegion directive.

What I want to do, is to make twm tile all icons along one side of the
screen. From the man-page IconRegion gives the impression of doing
exactly that, but like I said: twm have always ignored it and iconize
applications in place, leaving me to move the icons manually.

I don't use the Icon Manager, because I like icons with small pretty
pictures. :-)
(And I don't use mwm, because I listen to rms ;-)

Any hints as to what I need to do will be appreciated.

Thanx!

- Steinar

-----8<----excerpts-from-my-.twmrc-file-----------

	  IconRegion "+0+160" North East 50 60
	  ForceIcons
	  IconDirectory  "/home/loke/a/steinarb/icons"
	  Icons
	  {
            "emacs" "gemacs.icon" # obtained from IconDirectory
            "istat" "istat.icon"
            "idraw" "idraw.icon"
            "xterm" "xterm.icon"
            "login" "login.icon"
	    "xfd"        "xfd_icon"
	  }
	  UnknownIcon    "default.icon"
From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:05:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:25:39 GMT
Message-Id: <id._4OO.M3G@ferranti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.misc,comp.unix.msdos,comp.unix.admin,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.hp

In article <1992Apr4.001108.24396@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
> >>And if they cost about the same as the PCs and Macs,

> Add to the cost of the PeeCee and the Mac the price of all that things that
> you have to buy that come included with the Unix machine.

For most people the only things they HAVE to buy are a backup program and
their applications.

> A fair percentage of all application software, for any platform, is garbage.

Sturgeon's Law.

Which is why it's a good idea to have a wide variety to choose from.
-- 
-- Peter da Silva,  Ferranti International Controls Corporation
-- Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012;  +1 713 274 5180
-- "Have you hugged your wolf today?"
From: huis@software.mitel.com (Stephen Hui)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Need help to convert X11R3 application to X11R4
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:20:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

Date: 6 Apr 92 19:57:24 GMT
Message-Id: <11385@weiwei>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x

Hello,

	I have an application that is running on X11R3 on HP-UX 7.05 now,
and I planned to upgrade our system to 700 series, which will run HP-UX 8.0
with X11R4. I had tried to re-compile the application on a 700 series machine
and have no luck. Some files are missing in /usr/include/X11R4/X11 directory.

	Can someone tell me what to do in order to re-compile a X11R3's
application to X11R4 ?

	Thanks !

							Stephen

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From: adagio!grog@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Greg Lehey)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X386 video mode woes
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:42:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany

Date: 11 Apr 92 21:24:16 GMT
Message-Id: <156@adagio.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.sysv386

In article <9hrjlcq.gooley@netcom.com> gooley@netcom.com (Markian Gooley) writes:
>akk@korppi.cs.tut.fi (Kautonen Ari) writes:
>>article <mark.702596901@snark>, by mark@snark.itc.gu.edu.au (Mark Hessling):

>>I had just the same problems with my no-name HiColor 4032 card. I checked
>>the dot frequencies with the oscilloscope and noticed that all the clocks
>>were doubled! So the slowest clock I could use was 50 MHz and the fastest
>>130 MHz.
>I have a similar problem & tried assuming that the clocks are twice their
>supposed frequencies.  The weird screen displays I have gotten from that
>are at least different from what I had before, but still entirely useless.

I found it hard to believe that the original premise could be correct;
if I could build a 130 MHz VGA board, I would not sell it for the
price of a 65 MHz board. I would also have to sell the user a monitor
which could handle this frequency, especially since I would be unable
to support the standard VGA frequencies of 25.175 MHz and 28.322 MHz.
Sorry, Ari, but I suspect you got your scales wrong on the scope.

I have yet another diatribe on how to set up X. Does anybody really
want to see it?
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From: dob@inel.gov (Dave Brooks)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Athena-Widgets for HP9000/700
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:22:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 10:53:56 -0600
Message-Id: <9204151653.AA23848@mijen.inel.gov>


when i received my 720, it came with shared libraries for X, Xaw, Xmu, etc.
there were, however, no athena header files.  in order to build gnuplot
i needed Xaw header files; i remote copied the Xaw and Xmu directories from
a Sun with MIT X11R4 and was up and running in now time.  i've since built
R5 and installed it under /usr/local, but still use the R4 stuff.  it has
been problem free for me.

hope this helps!
dave
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From: charette@cheetah.det.dec.com (Mark Charette)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Where is Ken Olsen's internet address??
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:01:19 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Date: 16 Apr 92 14:22:41 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr16.142241.8190@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


In article <2915@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com>, hwrvo@lhdsy1.chevron.com (W.R. Volz) writes:
|>
|>Does anyone have the internet address of Ken Olsen so I can
|>send him a note. I am having trouble getting things fixed in
|>digital and I think he might want to know. I've have had 
|>motif problems with their version since June of last year
|>and it hasn't been fixed yet. Their latest still had the
|>problems. This is no joke. How can I send him a note?

No, I don't have his address. However, if you're using DEC's SUPPORTED version
of Motif, it's 1.1 . Try using their UNSUPPORTED (but available) version,
which is 1.1.1. Yes, I know it's way out of date, but it's a heck of a lot
better. If you're already using 1.1.1, you'll have to wait longer for a new
release or switch to the OSF/1 release instead of Ultrix.

--
Mark Charette                |Yes, I do speak for my employer. Really. Often.
Fisher Engineering Systems   |Digital Equipment Corporation is NOT my employer,
charette@cheetah.det.dec.com |so don't blame them. I just consult there.
From: sheldon@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Roger Sheldon - AISS)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: CLIPS by NASA
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:24:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

Date: 16 Apr 92 16:34:23 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr16.163423.6072@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Apr14.145353.5078@pencom.com> eric@pencom.com writes:
>In article <9204101447.AA15483@lenny.kaman.com> darin@kaman.COM (Darin S. Lory)  
>writes:
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone in the X world heard of CLIPS that is
>> distributed by NASA.  It is supposed to me an Object-Oriented environment
>> to develop X windows tools via Lisp, C++, or another oop language.
>> 
>> If someone could straighten me out out the information about the product,
>> it would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> My boss would to purchase it for testing to see if it meets the requirements
>> we need it for.
>
>CLIPS has nothing to do with graphics.
>It is an AI'ish type of forward chaining inference language.
>Last I knew it was not Object Oriented in the slightest.
>It has an interface implemented in a number of graphical environments
>which may be how you confused it with graphics in general.

CLIPS 5.0 now has COOL (CLIPS Object-Oriented Language or some such thing).

- Roger
From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Problem building X11R4 on a SPARCstation 2
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:15:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

Date: 9 Apr 92 20:21:28 GMT
Message-Id: <12088@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.misc

I have a SS2 running SUNOS 4.1.1B, and I've been building X11R4 on it.
Everything goes fine except I'm missing /usr/include/sundev/cg6reg.h,
which the server stuff tries to include.

According to the Man page, this corresponds to the GX device, which
is what I have installed.   Where did the header go?
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From: aw@jello.bae.bellcore.com (Andrew Wason)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Should XtOverrideTranslations work this way?
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:27:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Bell Communications Research

Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 22:12:59 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr10.221259.7947@walter.bellcore.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

In article <ku9d3hINN8i2@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
> In the following Wcl "program", a new translation for
> "<Key>" seems to override the old translation for 
> "<Key>g", even though the left-hand side is not the
> same.  Why does this happen?
> [...]
> *but.activateCallback: WcTraceCB (overriding translations) \n\
>     WcSetValueCB (^raw.translations: #override\n\
>       <Key>: WcTraceACT("key pressed (override)"))
> [...]
> *raw.translations: \
>    <Btn1Down>: WcTraceACT("Button 1 down") \n\
>    <Key>g: WcTraceACT("G key pressed") \n\
>    <Key>: WcTraceACT("Key pressed (original)")


The R5 Xt spec says about XtOverrideTranslations:

  XtOverrideTranslations logically appends the string
  representation of the widget's current translations to the string
  representation of the new translations and reparses the result
  with no warning messages about duplicate left-hand sides

  i.e., if the new translations contain an event or event sequence
  that already exists in the widget's translations, the new trans-
  lation overrides the widget's translation.

Assuming this applies to translations applied via XtSetValues
with the #override directive, then your overriding translations
are prepended to the widgets existing translations and you end up
with:

    <Key>: WcTraceACT("key pressed (override)")\n\
    <Btn1Down>: WcTraceACT("Button 1 down") \n\
    <Key>g: WcTraceACT("G key pressed") \n\
    <Key>: WcTraceACT("Key pressed (original)")

So the first translation for <Key> grabs all key events.

Andrew

_______________________________________________________________________________

Andrew Wason                                       Bell Communications Research
aw@bae.bellcore.com                                Piscataway, NJ
bellcore!bae!aw
From: leei@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Lee Iverson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: MITSHM Extension...
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:53:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill University, McRCIM

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 19:53:23 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr8.195323.5873@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Has anybody else actually tried to use this?  I'm trying to setup for
shared images, but it seems that neither of the XShmQuery calls
actually checks that the server is on the same machine as the client.
Is there a simple portable way to do this?  The documentation seems to
indicate that the XShmQueryExtension() call should actually do this,
but it doesn't and everything else works up until the XShmAttach()
call causes a protocol error, namely:

X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
  Major opcode of failed request:  129 (MIT-SHM)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  1 (X_ShmAttach)
  Serial number of failed request:  308
  Current serial number in output stream:  309

This, of course, doesn't happen if the client and server are local to
the same machine.   Aaaarrrggghhh!    Any ideas?

-- 

Lee Iverson			McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
leei@mcrcim.mcgill.edu		Computer Vision and Robotics Lab
				McGill University, Montreal
From: ric@updike.sri.com (Richard Steinberger)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: get_wmShellWidgetClass not found problem
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:25:42 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: sri

Date: 6 Apr 92 16:37:41 GMT
Message-Id: <34044@unix.SRI.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


	I have recently been getting a number of Undefined symbol errors
when I have tried to build some X11 clients.  The symbols not found are
always:

   _get_wmShellWidgetClass
   _get_applicationShellWidgetClass

Most recently this happened when I tried to build the X11-based info
previewer, xinfo, available from prep.ai.mit.edu.  I am using X11R4.18
on a SUN 670 with SUNos 4.1.2.  The link line in the xinfo build looks
like:

cc -o xinfo xinfo.o Info.o -O -D_NO_PROTO -DSTRINGS_ALIGNED -DNO_REGEX \
-DNO_ISDIR -DUSE_RE_COMP -DUSE_GETWD -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lm

Can someone explain what I am missing?  Thanks in advance to all who reply.

regards,

	ric steinberger
	ric@updike.sri.com
From: gurney@pacific.cps.msu.edu (Eddy J. Gurney)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to position child widgets using Xaw
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:54:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:31:29 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr13.143129.1606@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Sender: xpert-request@expo.lcs.mit.edu
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Communication.
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:19:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:14:28 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr16.051428.15916@news.eng.convex.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

>>> Here's my problem:  I have an X-Windows application process running and
>>> a non-X communications process running.  When a message is received by my
>>> comm process, I want to interrupt the X-Windows application and update
>>> a status window indicating that a message has arrived.

This sounds just like ntalk and the new xtalk, which plug-n-play with
each other.  
-- 


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From: ray@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov (Ray Ho)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Too Many Global Variables
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:39:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: MDSSC-KSC

Date: 7 Apr 92 12:57:25 EST
Message-Id: <1992Apr7.125726.2488@titan.ksc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif


    Hi everybody,

    We have used X/Motif for quite a while on medium size to large size
    projects. We experienced that using global variables are hard to 
    avoid. Everytime we try to eliminate the global variables, our 
    programs get messier. 

    Is that because we did not follow strict software engineering 
    discipline or that is something X/Motif, and maybe OOP, have to live 
    with?

    I would like to know your opinion on this issue, and also may be you
    can tell me whether there is a book or paper dealing with "Object 
    Oriented" programming style and/or coding standard, especially relates 
    to eliminating global variables. 

    I appreciate you can send email directly to me, I will summarize it.

    Many thanks in advance.


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    Sr. Software Engineer		  
    McDonnell Douglas Space Systems      	    	  
    Email: ray@grumpy.ksc.nasa.gov  
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