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From: ibhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: is $2600 for a ii/ci a good price?
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:10:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.ibhan.724453833
Distribution: usa

u1733@cs.uiuc.edu (Ching Tai) writes:

>Hi,	I'm thinking about buying a mac!  My university offers a 
>II/ci 8/230 w/ color monitor, keyboard, mouse for about $2800.  Supposedly
>the price will only last from now until Jan. 20 (or so).  Is this a 
>good price for a II/ci?  TShould I buy a II/ci ? I.e. is it being
>discontinued? Thanks.

Okay, well you should know it's weaknesses:
-Slow built in video
-Maximum 8-bit internal video
-No Sound input
-Upgrades to Q700, a machine that will be discontinued soon
-Will likely be discontinued itself soon.

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                                     - - - 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dlopez@shearson.com (David Lopez)
Subject: Re: Using Color on a Classic II
Reply-To: dlopez@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:38:16 GMT



i believe you can use a scsi based video board which goes for around
$500 to drive an external monitor at 8 bit color. i think supermac
makes one such box. the classic 2 has full color support in it's ROM.
but as nick says there is no internal slot for expansion.



In article 617@blue.cis.pitt.edu, nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello) writes:
In article <golden.724262798@ponder> golden@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Timothy A. Goldenburg) writes:
>Could someone please e-mail me some information on what hardware I need
>to hook up a color monitor to my Classic II.  Thanx.
>

  You only need two pieces of equipment, a vid card and a SE/30.  :)
  If I remember right the Classic II doen't have a PDS slot (and 
certainly doesn't have internal video), so there's no way to hook
up a color (or any external) monitor without an upgrade.

                              -- nick


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wdburns@walker2.hu.mtu.edu (WILLIAM DAVID BURNS)
Subject: Re: I got it!
Organization: CCLI Macintosh Lab, Michigan Tech University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:45:47 GMT

From my meager understanding of the Performas, the system software (7.1P)
was made to make is easier to use than regular system 7.  It was found that
when multiple applications were open, the screen clutter was too confusing
for most people so the changed the system software so that when you launch
a new application, the others (inclusing Finder) went into the background
and were forced to "hide".  In theory, you need to go to the application
menu (the upper right hand side of the menu bar) and select another app.

But, I've never played with one...just remembering what the literature
explained.

By the way, you CAN load the "real" system 7.1 software if you'd like,
but you'll have to pay for the upgrade like everyone else.

I don't speak for apple..I'm not even sure if they know I exist! :)

-- 
  Bill Burns       [ Internet: wdburns@mtu.edu ]
                   [ AppleLink: SHADOW         ]
  Apple Student Rep, MTU
  Senior Macintosh Technical Consultant, CCLI LAB - Michigan Tech Univ.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: DogCow - where it comes from
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:11:56 GMT

Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se writes:
>Brian Kendig (bskendig@netcom.com) wrote:
>: Nope, that's "Clarus".  "Miss Clarus" to you.  And I believe she's the
>
>Ah, I was never sure if Clarus was "Mr", "Miss" or "the". How do you know?

Because if she were 'Mister Clarus', then she would be a bulldog, of course!

>: mascot of DTS.  For detailed information, get Tech Note 31.
>
>Here we go again ... :)

Well I have a copy of TN31 (the original, not the one from the Tech Notes
stack); if I can remember what disk it's on, I'll upload it to sumex.

-- 
_/_/_/  Brian Kendig                             Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/  bskendig@netcom.com                de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/                            n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
  /  Nolite te bastardes     Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
 /    carborundorum.                                             -- Rousseau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: larrie@beaufort.sfu.ca (Larrie Simon Carr)
Subject: Features of Classic II 
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:34:40 GMT


At the university, I can buy a Classic II 4/40 for $1100 (Canadian)
which is definately the best price in town.  

However, will the Classic suffer from upgrade problems?  I know
it doesnt have a math co-processor, but I am told I can get one
when I need it (if I need it :) for $100 to $200.  But I hear
that you can't get a video card for it like the SE/30.  Why?
I can't believe you would want to run one through a SCSI.

Is this the case with other upgrade products/goodies? 
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Video Display on Duo Dock
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 22:50:15 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: comp

In article <PIERCE.92Dec11164129@bartles.asc.slb.com> pierce@asc.slb.com (Edward Pierce) writes:
>I know I may not get much sympathy from the net, here.  I'm one of the lucky
>early recepients of the DuoDock and I also have an NEC 5FG (17") monitor.
>Now, when I hook them together, I get a somewhat unimpressive, but crystal
>clear 832x624 8-bit color display.  That's OK, but what I really want is
>more pixels.  A 1/4" high "9-point" font is a bit of an overkill even for
>myopic me.

That's only 36dpi.  Which means your 17" monitor is at least 23" wide.
Very unusual.  I suspect what you have is a 512*384 picture (for a 15"
wide 17" monitor) or a 640*480 picture (for a 17" wide 17"
monitor--also very unusual, but maybe you overestimated the size of
that 9 point font).

To get 832 by 624, connect pins 10 and 7, and pins 7 and 4. Leave 11
unconnected.

To get 640 by 870, connect pins 4 and 11.  Leave 10 and 7 unconnected.
(I don't know if the Duo supports this)



-- 
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FMPro 2.0v2 - Sub Summaries in Browse?
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:28:02 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

Franklin P. Burdette <fburdette@worldbank.org> writes:

>Does anyone know how to view sub summaries in Browse mode with 'view as
>list" turned on? Any response greatly appreciated!

    You can't. If you need to see the subsummaries then you should use
the Preview mode instead of the Browse mode.

--
-Brian V. Hughes
	     "If you could care less, then why don't you?"
From: dewhirst@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Rob Dewhirst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FB+/Mac: Screen->PICT?
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:08:22 CST
Organization: KU Museum of Invertebrate Paleontology

Is there an easy way to get the contents of a screen to a pict file or
something similar in FB+/Mac?  

It needs to be from a program level, not something like a screen shot.


-- 
Rob Dewhirst
sysop@macrocosm.omahug.org

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Franklin P. Burdette <fburdette@worldbank.org>
Subject: FMPro 2.0v2 - Sub Summaries in Browse?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A75239692B012805@fburdette.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:15:21 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:15:49 GMT

Does anyone know how to view sub summaries in Browse mode with 'view as
list" turned on? Any response greatly appreciated!
From: jek5036@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.E. King)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Odesta's Double Helix
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:39:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: jek5036@ultb


Seems as though everybody uses Filemaker Pro 2.0v2 and 4th Dimension.. Some
people have mentioned FoxBase/Mac.. what ever happened to Double Helix?
How do people feel about DH?  As a consultant I recommend DH for most
applications because of it's flexibility and power.  Other comments on DH?

I'm just interested to know how many people even know about DH.

Thanks,

Jim King
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: Darren_E._Tong@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:40:21 EST
Subject: FB+/Mac: Screen->PICT?

Rob Dewhirst,

command+shift+3 should help you out!

- BulkRate 1.3... moe,larry,cheese! moe,larry,cheese! moe,larry,cheese!-How
about Limburger?? darren_tong@fourd.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: Dave_Burnett@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:46:42 PST
Subject: Re: Is FileMaker Pro multi-user?

<CHARLESW@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

>  Also, while I'm at it, a) is there a way to import data via terminal emula-
>tion or will I need a separate program such as MicroPhone, and b) can I write
>the equivalent of XCMDs for it like I can for FoxBase?

In reply, hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
> I'm not sure what you mean here. Importing data into FM Pro can be
> done only with a data file on an accessible drive. This data can be in a
> number of formats, but it still requires a file to read from.

While the most common way of importing data into FileMaker is via a data file,
FileMaker Pro 2.0 allows data to be imported via AppleEvents.  This is a
particularly useful feature for use with terminal programs that support
AppleEvents -- you can esentially pipeline data from the term package to 
FileMaker...

Hope this helps

**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG.  The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.
From: cory@hobbes.sanders.lockheed.com (Cory Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Mac DB program access to IBM IMS
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:58:10 GMT
Reply-To: cory@rocket.sanders.com
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.

My company runs most of its databases out of an IBM using a system
called IMS.  I am looking for a way to access those databases over the
network, format queries, and display the results on a Mac.  Any help
will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance,

--
    Dr. Cory Myers                            Lockheed Sanders Inc.
    Senior Principal Electrical Engineer      Room MER24-1583C
    Signal Processing Center of Technology    PO Box 868
                                              Nashua, NH 03061-0868

    (usenet)     ...!uunet!rocket!cory        phone (603) 885-6845
    (internet)  cory@rocket.sanders.com       fax   (603) 885-0631
From: Chris Chesher <c.chesher@uts.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Plug FMPro data into Quark X-press ?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 03:25:17 GMT
Organization: Uni of Technology, Sydney
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: maclab433-28.hum.uts.edu.au
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d15
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X-XXDate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:25:17 GMT

In article <1ffovbINN3dv@nestroy.wu-wien.ac.at> Rudolf R. Sinkovics,
sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at writes: >FileMaker Pro into predefined
Quark-X-Press
layouts ?

Version 1 of FM Pro will let you export data reasonably easily, and FM
Pro 2.0 is
even better at it. Quark Xpress can read tab-separated fields easily, but
it's a
matter of getting the process to be a bit smarter:

On the FileMaker end, be careful how you export. Tab separated is
probably the
best. Try using summary or calculation fields.I can't remember if you can
export
these from v1, but I'm pretty sure you can with v2.0. 

You can get FM Pro to export it in the format of the layout you have
open. Try 
this first. 

It may be better to do some text manipulations with a text editor, and
using 
global changes for specific uses. 

On the Quark end, you can use the Xpress tabs features. With a text
editor, or
within FM Pro you could apply styles to your exported text. For example,
if you 
want the titles of publications in a bibliography to be italicised, I
think you 
use <t> before it, and after it, to toggle it on and off (Check the
manual). 

Similarly, you can apply styles through the Xpress tags. One way to do
this 
would be to create a special field in FM which you only use in export.
Use the 
replace command to fill this field with a certain style name, and export
it 
before the field which you want in that style. With a bit of global
changing 
in a text editor, you can have quite a lot of control.

_-_ 
            Chris Chesher C.Chesher@uts.edu.au 
            
                                                     _-_
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:55:43 EST
From: <CHARLESW@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Is FileMaker Pro multi-user?
 <1992Dec16.162223.18217@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>

>     I'm not sure what you mean here. Importing data into FM Pro can be
> done only with a data file on an accessible drive. This data can be in a
> number of formats, but it still requires a file to read from. You can't
> write XCMDs for FM Pro, but if you have version 2.0 you can use Apple
> events to basically perform the importing if you wanted.

   My questions about importing data and XCMDs stem from my need to automate
 an updating process where the Mac would sign on to a mainframe overnight
 and download a "delta" file of data.  In FoxBase I can do things that aren't
 built in to the database by writing XFCNs or XCMDs, and calling them from the
 code.  It helps keep everything in a nice neat package (FoxBase has other
 things to balance that, of course).

  Thanks for your help.
From: mancini@fysik.uu.se (Derrick C. Mancini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: QUERY: How to make BibTeX from EndNote
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Date: 16 Dec 1992 14:52:47 GMT
Organization: Fysikum, Uppsala Universitet
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: usx221.fysik.uu.se

We have some users in our group using EndNote Plus for References.  We
have others needing these access to bibliographies in BibTeX format
either for TeX or for use by WordRef 1.4 on the Mac (uses a subset for
BibTeX).  EndNote allows you to export a bibliography as simply a report
of the database defined by a style.  Styles for ProCite and Refer are
included, but not BibTeX.  Has someone already put together what is
needed in the way of a style sheet to allow EndNote to export to BibTeX
format?  The file, program, or pointer to more info would be most
appreciated.


Derrick C. Mancini
Fysiska Institutionen  -  Uppsala Universitet
Box 530  S751 21  Uppsala  Sverige
mancini@fysik.uu.se
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: triantos@netcom.Netcom.COM (Nick B Triantos)
Subject: Re: Filemaker Pro problem
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:11:04 GMT

Yep.  Unfortunately, you're right.  FileMaker Pro bases all of its
formatting on a field-by-field basis.  No mixing/matching font styles, etc.
within fields.  I'll log it in as a suggestion in our customer contact
database, though.

-Nick

--
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I may work in Claris Technical Support, but not when I'm logged in on
the Internet... 

-- 
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I may work in Claris Technical Support, but not when I'm logged in on
the Internet... 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Franklin P. Burdette <fburdette@worldbank.org>
Subject: More choices on expanding/shrinking views in FMPro?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A757807123012805@fburdette.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:19:45 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:19:58 GMT

Has anybody figured out a way to view layouts in more ways that FM Pro
allows (i.e. 50%, 100%, 200%, ...). Being able to view layouts at 133% is
the goal. Thanks for any suggestions!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: rufus@cis.umassd.edu (Rui N. Campos)
Subject: 4D and accounting problems
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:13:44 GMT

Hello, everyone, I'm new to this group and I have a question.  I am a 4D
developer, and I have just been contracted to do a database for a retail firm.
This database invloves the usual things: inventory, Acounts Payable, 
Accounts Receivable, Vendor maintenance...  I have never done any 4D work
that required accounting.  My question is:  Is 4D suitable for general ledger,
and payroll, among other accounting problems, or am I better off looking
elsewhere?  

One more question.  How is 4d's performance over networks, and what is a good
server for this?

Any response will be greatly appreciated

Thanks 
Rui
From: bl615@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Teri Lautman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: $d and system 6.0.8
Date: 18 Dec 1992 06:05:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


I had to reload system software on my Mac Classic after adding
2 megs (for a total of 4megs) of RAM.  Now I crash all the time
in the design environment with messages like: coprocessor not 
installed, address error, and illegal instruction!  Help!  I've 
tried reloading the 4D application and the database-to no avail.
Please mail me a solution.  ( I have no extensions or inits).
--
From: gk1@acpub.duke.edu (Gavin  Kistner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FMP 2.0 Printing Problem
Summary: Records at bottom of page getting chopped in half.
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:06:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Alright, I feel like this is a simple problem, but I'm not sure why it is
occurring.  When printing pages of records which are viewed as lists, each of
which is about two lines long, FMP doesn't seem to be checking where the
bottom of the page is, and consequently prints records which fall into the
bottom page margin, and thus get chopped off.
If it makes a difference, I'm using the NEC SilentWriter 95.

Anyone know how to fix this?  (I would assume so.)

_____________________________________________________________________________
Gavin Kistner                 "Damn the hard drive!  Full Install ahead!"
gk1@acpub.duke.edu                No, I don't speak for Duke.  Duh. 
_____________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: triantos@netcom.Netcom.COM (Nick B Triantos)
Subject: Re: FileMaker Pro v2.0 -How do you do IF-THEN tests?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:18:34 GMT


In article <1992Dec11.120606.520@news.wesleyan.edu> pzocco@falcon.wcc.wesleyan.edu (Paul Zocco) writes:
   ...
   So on my main contact layout, I have some Yes/No radio buttons for:

	   Member?		Yes/No
	   Speaker Req.?	Yes/No
	   Speaker Info?	Yes/No
	   Pilot School?	Yes/No,  etc.

   What I would like to do is have the radio buttons determine how you move  
   from layout to layout (or database to database.)  Depending on how the  
   Yes/No questions are answered on this contact screen, I'd like FileMaker  
   Pro to walk its way through the other layout screens (with user  
   interaction, of course).

Paul brings up an interesting idea, which I would propose is very much
possible, with a little work and a great new feature of FileMaker Pro 2.0.
What you can do is to create a calculation field that, based upon the
different combinations of "Yes"es and "No"s, creates a number.  Then, create
layouts named with each of these numbers, which you'd like for the
combinations to continue to.  Place a button on the layout with the "Yes/No"
questions called something like "Continue" that executes the script command
"Go to Layout", and use the option for going to a layout number specified by
a field. (It's there.  Look at it).  It's not something I've done to date,
but I see that the features are there to make this apparently possible.

   Also, is there a way to make a radio button act like a button that  
   performs an action?  That is, can you click on a radio button, have the  
   field it represents be set to Yes or No and still switch to another  
   layout?

This, actually, is also possible.  Create very small circles that look like
radio button sized doohickeys, and place them on the layout ON FRONT of the
actual "Yes/No" buttons.  (From the Arrange menu, choose "Move to Front").
Each of these buttons should be drawn with a black pen, and fill set to
NONE.  Then have each button execute scripts that will "Go to Field
<your-field>", and "Paste Literal 'yes'" or 'no'.  The scripts will
therefore be doing the same thing as clicking on the real radio buttons, but
since you're now executing a script, it should be possible to continue on
and do lots of other fun things.  The only caveat here:  I'm not sure that
you'll be able to Paste Literal into a radio button field, since there's
really no way to "Go to Field" to a formatted field.  Check it out, though,
and let us all know what you find.

Peace, happiness, and regular backups!


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I may work in Claris Technical Support, but not when I'm logged in on
the Internet... 

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I may work in Claris Technical Support, but not when I'm logged in on
the Internet... 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: triantos@netcom.Netcom.COM (Nick B Triantos)
Subject: Re: More choices on expanding/shrinking views in FMPro?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:24:38 GMT

In fact, there is a way to do exactly what you want, sort of.

1. Buy a monitor that's about 1.5 times the size of your current monitor.
2. Move further away from it.

No, sorry, actually there is no way to zoom to anything other than the
preset percentages.

--
-Nick "Ever wonder why so many people think Windows is great?" Triantos

I may work in Claris Technical Support, but not when I'm logged in on
the Internet... 

-- 
-Nick "Ever wonder why so many people think Windows is great?" Triantos

I may work in Claris Technical Support, but not when I'm logged in on
the Internet...