From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: Re: ...... Hyderabadi muslims ........
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:34:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.105622.17836@hellgate.utah.edu> iyengar%ppl.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Satish Iyengar) writes:
>In article <1gnhciINNjo3@meaddata.meaddata.com>, ram@meaddata.com (Ram Nugooru) writes:
>|> In article <1992Dec15.134333.4639@hellgate.utah.edu> you write:
>|> |> In article <1992Dec15.183019.28236@cs.wayne.edu>, uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> |> narain@bass.bu.edu gave a very good account of what he saw and explained
>|> |> |> quite clearly the reasons for his disgust the hyderabadi muslim's behaviour.
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> |> whatever the other people's response is to it : I have something to say too.
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> |> My personal experience is identical.  having lived in many parts of india,
>|> |> |> I venture to state this : the hyderabadi muslims are the most
>|> |> |> agressive and the most unpatriotic muslims in the subcontinent (going by
>|> |> |> the definition of the concepts of Nationnality and Citizenship).
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> |> True, their behaviour is disgusting.  But I also see them with
>|> |> |> clearer glasses.  I follow political history and this is what I came to
>|> |> |> know.  The hyderabadi muslims NEVER WANTED TO BE A PART OF INDIA.
>|> |>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> |> 
>|> |> Having lived in Hyderabad all my life and having read about the history of
>|> |> Hyderabad, I tend to disagree with you.   Agreed, there are a few cases of 
>|> |> bigotry among the muslims.  But I don't think your claim that the Hyderabadi
>|> |> muslims never wanted to be part of India is wrong.  The then Nizam of 
>|> |> Hyderabad wanted Hyderabad to be annexed into Pakistan but the average 
>|> |> muslim on the street did not have such strong feelings in that respect.  In
>|> |> my dealings with muslims in Hyderabad, I have found that they are as partriotic
>|> |> as any other Indian.  You may disagree with me here but this is my $0.02 worth.
>|> |> 
>|> |> 	[stuff deleted]
>|> |> 
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> |> Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
>|> |> |> (email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> |> 
>|> |> 
>|> |> Cheers,
>|> |> 
>|> |> Satish.
>|> |> 
>|> |> -- 
>|> |> Satish S. Iyengar                             Phone:(Home) (801) 581-1424
>|> |> Dept. of Electrical Engg.                           (Work) (801) 581-5618
>|> |> University of Utah,                                        (801) 585-3676
>|> |> Salt Lake City, UT 84112.                            
>|> |> 
>|> 
>|> Which part of Hyderabad did you live, hope its not old city.
>|> 
>|> These are the same people who celebrate when Pakistan wins a criket
>|> match or hockey match against India. These are the same people who
>|> does not believe Indian constitution, I am talking about the educated
>|> society of muslim community, it's not the ordinary joe on the street.
>|> Go into the old city and see how things are, they are driving away
>|> all the other communities from their neighborhoods. How many times did
>|> they not attacked hindu temples in the past, how many times did they
>|> not rob the shops in the charminar area, how many times did they not
>|> rape mothers and sisters of us during the riots of vinaka chaviti.
>|> When hole city is busy in celebrations of vinaka nimagnam, they
>|> attacked the hindu houses in the old city rape every hindu woman they
>|> came across, no muslim leader ever condemned their actions. Talking
>|> about the leaders, they have a fanatic religious party, who preach in
>|> their mosques to kill others. This shows their partriotism. 
>|> 
>
>I think what you say here is totally ridiculous.  In all my 21 years of stay
>in Hyderabad, I never once heard or witnessed the destroying of a temple either
>in the old city area or for that matter in any part of Hyderabad by anybody,
>let alone the muslims.  Like I said earlier, I agree that there may be some
>cases in which a certain group of people celebrated the Pakistani victory over
>India in cricket matches but generalizing that every muslim in Hyderabad does
>that based on a small section of the muslim population is baseless.  Coming to
>mothers and daughters raped during immersion and other processions, I wouldn't 
>be too sure as to the faith of the wrong-doer.  There are many people belonging
>to all sects who abuse the hustle and bustle of the immersion procession to
>jostle with the ladies around who would have come to the sides of the road to
>see the procession.  In fact, I am sure that many of these wrong-doers are those
>who are part of the procession.  
>
>|> -Ram Nugooru
>|> 
>
>Satish.
>
>-- 
>Satish S. Iyengar                             Phone:(Home) (801) 581-1424
>Dept. of Electrical Engg.                           (Work) (801) 581-5618
>University of Utah,                                        (801) 585-3676
>Salt Lake City, UT 84112.                            
>

	Could'nt agree with U more, dude.

J Anand.

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