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From: admin@materials.org (MSMSE)
Subject: Re: Why Another New Journal ?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:40:43 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: reza@materials.materials.org


Subject: Re: Why Another New Journal ?
Newsgroups: alt.materials.simulation
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astro, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
To:admin@materials.org

I found myself in pretty serious agreement with the article by Michael
Baskes that you posted.  I span both the atomistic and the continuum
sides of the problem, but in the computational arena in both areas.
I think much of what he said is quite true, though I think it will take
alot more than a new journal to really address this issue.  Not the
least of the problems is that so much of the really hot computational
capability is locked up in the DoD and DoE and is not available to the
general community because of export control or security restrictions.
Still, it is a good start.

John

Newsgroups: alt.materials.simulation
From: pbernard@linus.umd.edu (Peter S. Bernard)
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
Subject: exotic vocals
Keywords: exotic vocals
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:45:22 GMT
Distribution: usa



Hi you exotic people,

Sometimes i get in this mood when i want to listen to just
voices, you know- sometime deep, sometime high pitch, voices and
only voices, no music at all, (well, may be a little)
preferablly with profound ideas in female voice, 
almost like poetry
but with more melody than thought.
I have heard this kind of music on the radio
here and there, but would like to get some specific
names. 

I appreciate your help.      -RR
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: css@tron.stx.com (Chris Shenton)
Subject: Re: Phillip Glass
Organization: Hughes/STX, Lanham, MD
	<1992Oct26.162611.7980@harlqn.co.uk>
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	<aquilanm.721504066@helium> <1992Nov16.044411.6044@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:10:22 GMT

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:44:11 GMT, miku@ee.su.oz.au (Michael Usher) said:

miku> Yes, the ``Harp of New Albion'' is a wonderful piece, as is
miku> ``Salome'', though I've never heard of La Monte Young.  Can I
miku> prompt you for details?

Young's in NYC, but I've only once had the chance to hear his music
live.  The performance (Third Dream of the High Voltage Step-down
Transformer, I think) consisted of four horn players stationed at the
corners of the (small) theater, audience in the middle. The players
played -- essentially -- drones, sometimes individually, sometimes
together.  Melodically, not very exciting, but the raw *sound* was
exciting -- spatial shifting and phase shifting.

A friend described a performance he had seen in NYC where he said that
they basically played one note for 3-4 hours. Many people left during
the event. But the amusing thing was that my friend indicated that
there was a intense sense of loss, after the show concluded: his mind
*wanted* to hear that note. 

I believe he had a multi-disk released a year or two ago, but I can't
remember anything about it. Sorry.

Anyone: please feel free to correct me if you find any of this inaccurate.



By the way, now that I've flamed Glass sufficiently, I have to admit
that I saw/heard ``The Mysteries and What's So Funny'' a couple weaks
ago, a meditation on Marcel Duchamp and the ambiguities and
uncertanties in his work and life (and life in general). David
Gordon's play is very playful -- clever puns and uses of multiple
plots in multiple times operating concurrently. Music by Glass was
just piano, a pleasant change from the droning Farfisa. Sets by Red
Grooms were imaginitive and versatile. While I enjoyed the performance
very much, it wasn't a life-changing or provocative piece.
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: cliff@marasai.asd.sgi.com (Clifford O. Thompson)
Subject: Re: exotic vocals
Keywords: exotic vocals
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:06:15 GMT

In article <17084@umd5.umd.edu>, pbernard@linus.umd.edu (Peter S. Bernard) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Hi you exotic people,
|> 
|> Sometimes i get in this mood when i want to listen to just
|> voices, you know- sometime deep, sometime high pitch, voices and
|> only voices, no music at all, (well, may be a little)
|> preferablly with profound ideas in female voice, 
|> almost like poetry
|> but with more melody than thought.
|> I have heard this kind of music on the radio
|> here and there, but would like to get some specific
|> names. 
|> 
|> I appreciate your help.      -RR


Another reader has suggested Diamanda Galas - I'll second that suggestion.

She's not quite to everyone's taste, though...  At the other end of the
spectrum you night want to try The Harmonic Choir.  This is a vocal 
ensemble that uses Tibeten vocal techniques in their performances.  
A very interesting sound.  Try "Hearing Solar Winds."

By I means check out Galas as well.  I double-second "The Litanies of Satan."

Cliff Thompson
Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: miku@ee.su.oz.au (Michael Usher)
Subject: Re: Phillip Glass
Organization: Sydney University, Australia
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	<CSS.92Nov9171000@tron.stx.com>
	<aquilanm.721504066@helium>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:44:11 GMT

In articles <CSS.92Nov9171000@tron.stx.com> and <aquilanm.721504066@helium>,
Chris Shenton and Mark T Aquilano have both mentioned many excellent
`minimalist' composers.

(Apologies for the ambiguity in my original article (I found it in a box)),
to rephrase it --
>>As far as I know, Michael Nyman composed all of PG's soudtracks except
>>for ``The Belly of an Architect''.

I would be very interested to hear the early piece you (Chris) mention.
The earliest I know of is the soundtrack to ``The Falls'' (sp?)
which was another collaboration with PG done for one of the British TV
companies.  There are occasional showings of this work here and there.
(Though I always seem to be busy...)

As to the decay of Philip Glass's work:  Do you think that ``North Star''
was well written?  In my opinion it was a precursor to his best works,
but not nearly as well `polished'.  What did you think of ``Powaqqatsi'',
or ``Akhnaten''?  I agree to some extent -- though that's not to say
that the earlier the better.  It seems to depend on what he's
trying to write.  Glass's opera/performance work seems to have peaked
with Akhnaten, and 10000 Airplanes is a bit of a dive.  Though the
non-visually written pieces on ``Passages'' are excellent,
and imply that he still can produce good work.

It is interesting that both respondents should mention the Kronos Qt.
They are quite a focus for `modern' music, however their most recent work
(the african inspired pieces) I find less interesting than
Riley/Reich/Glass/Sculthorpe/etc/etc.  Perhaps I see a similar decline
in their attack?

Yes, the ``Harp of New Albion'' is a wonderful piece, as is ``Salome'',
though I've never heard of La Monte Young.  Can I prompt you for
details?

Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: harding@mantaray.micro.umn.edu (Paul Harding)
Subject: Gagaku
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:35:51 GMT

I have been trying to locate any recordings of the traditional Japanese
music genre 'Gagaku'.  Anyone with any leads on finding said recordings,
please let me know!

Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson)
Subject: Re: exotic vocals
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:05:20 GMT


My picks for exotic vocals:

Najma			Indian
Ofra Haza		Yemenite Hebrew
Aster Aweke		Ethiopian
Yma Sumac		Inca Princess
Trio Bulgarika		Bulgaria
Kate Bush		UK
Suzanne Deihim		Middle Eastern
Nina Hagen		German Punk Rock Alien
Diamanda Galas		Avant Guard
Idjah Hadidjah		Indonesian
Om Kalsoum		Egyptian
Latta Mangeshkar	Indian (more records than anyone else in the world)

That covers quite a bit of turf.  I hope I spelled all the names
right.

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Newsgroups: alt.exotic-music
From: bthompso@reed.edu (Benjamin Thompson)
Subject: Re: exotic vocals
Keywords: exotic vocals
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:32:24 GMT
Distribution: usa


You might Try Diamanda Galas out.  She is extremely good at what she
does.  She usually has minimal instrumentation backing her up.
You might check out the Plague Mass or The Litanies of Satan.
Both Are excellent.
-- 
Benjamin Thompson                     My views are my own, as far as I know...
bthompso@reed.edu                     I go to Reed College --- You can trust me
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From: sderby@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Stuart P. Derby)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 21 Nov 1992 21:03:10 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

  [deleted]
>Thanks for coming up with this movie, after following this thread, I was about
>to ask the group if anyone could remember the title.  --Dave.H

  I too have an indelible horror memory from my youth, who's name
I can't recall. It was a very Hammer-esque style, and had these
beasties, sort of like a turtle but with armadillo armor and a looooong
probiscis. I think the probiscis could bite and liquefy the victims guts
for ingestion. I remember several forest scenes but the scene that stuck
was when the girl and guy retreat into an office that had a frosted glass
window in the door and you could see the suckers of 3 or 4 beasties
shadow-waving back and forth as the poor couple despaired.

  Of movies that I know the names of, QUartermass and the Pit
(aka  xxx Million Years to Earth) was the most scary to me as a youth.

-Stu

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Friday The 13th (TV SERIES)
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:44:44 GMT

a finite list was never made. 
thats what made the series a practically never ending one. cause they never went out and said ALL that was really sold.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: kaminl@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: bram stoker's dracula
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:44:26 GMT

Can you say "Dune"?  I knew you could!  :)

Well, the cinematographer and production designers sure did their jobs for
this film, but it seemed like the editor was on speed, the actors were on
downers, and the director was asleep.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith)
Subject: Re: Heathers 
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:04:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.230331.24976@netcom.com>, tomboy@netcom.com (Thomas Miller) writes:
> I don't know that I'd call Heathers the greatest movie of the generation, but
> it certainly has some of the best one liners I've ever heard.
> 
> "F%*k me gently with a chainsaw!"  
> 
    I just LOVED that movie and watched it again and again (OK only 3 times).
My ONLY problem is the ending..... too bad the school didn't blow up 
(JD LIVES!). Hollywood (and the popcorn eaters) probably wouldn't have wanted
it anyways.

    Another great movie from the guy who wrote THE ADVENTURES OF FORD FAIRLANE
(Dice Man!) and BATMAN RETURNS. Oh yes... the unforgettable HUDSON HAWK!!!!!


-- 

Darth Vader (John P. LaRocque)
vader@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario

"Urk..urk..."
"Apologies accepted", Darth Vader
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: bedwards@nextear.psych.umn.edu (Brent Edwards)
Subject: Re: Any Good Vincent Price Movies ?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:49:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.002627.5298@microsoft.com> pierres@microsoft.com  
(Pierre Stromberg) writes:
>      I just watched Roger Corman's "The Pit And The Pendulum" again
> starring Vincent Price. This guy is great ! Does anyone know of other
> good Vincent Price movies out there ? I heard a rumor about a movie
> called "Conqueror Worm" that was supposedly well received. 

"The Abominable Dr. Phibes" and "Dr. Phibes Rises Again" (or something  
like that) scared the hell out of me as a kid. He's a creature/mad  
scientist who vents his revenge one-by-one on a hospital team that didn't  
save his wife, each death uniquely grisly. There was another revenge movie  
where he's an actor who kills off all of his critics, force feeding one  
fat critic his cooked dog until he chokes, for example. I think it was  
called "Theatre of Blood" but I'm not sure.
--Brent Edwards
"I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM" H.E.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: movies worse than rocky horror
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:16:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.210645.8889@ac.dal.ca> 01fortec@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.203315.5372@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@starfish.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>> In article <Af0ntG_00iUx49Qd0e@andrew.cmu.edu> Rebecca Alice Metz <rm6p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Got one worse, I think. I taped FRANKENSTEIN'S DAUGHTER last night. It's
>got half the cast from the BEACH movies. No redeeming features whatsoever.
>Except it's really bad.
>
>Joe
>01fortec@ac.dal.ca

Is that "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" or some potentially
worse variation on a theme?
"Lady Frankenstein" is pretty bad too, and it has some good actors! More
proof that Joseph Cotten is an actor of remarkable depth, and variety!
Not to mention that Ms. Frankenstein creates her monsters to be her
sex toys. It's hardly explicit, but the poster is classic!
"Only the Monster She Made could satisfy her strange desires!!!"

					--Judex--
From: farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Woo's "The Killer" out on US video
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:25:05 PST
Organization: BBS

While I have not seen An Autums Tale or as Tears go by one thing I have noticed
about HK filmmakers is that they have the ability to make films about people
and theire relationships. Whether it's an ultraviolent gangster flick ala John
Woo or something a little more low key they have the abiltiy to make films in
which you care about the characters. I have noticed that a lto of times even in
the most cheesiest film some thought on the relationship of the characters was
given. While most American films seem to fail in that category-everything feels
so contrived in most US films. I beleive that the film "Stop or My Mom will
Shoot" would have made a great HK film.
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (The Mantle Clinic)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Sidney Penny
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:23:35 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

joho@pfbs.philips.se  writes:
> Hej!
> 
> I just saw the Clint Eastwood's Pale Rider again. Does anybody know
> in what other movies Sidney Penny played (the girl playing Megan)?
> I'm sure I saw her in some other movie, but I just don't remember
> what is was about or what it was called.

Don't remember any other movies, but I do remember she's done
some TV work, I think it was the New Gidget Show and currently
Santa Barbara.
--
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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:11:13 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <BxwEEF.L34@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:
>
>  The two most shocking movies of my childhood would have to be THE EXORCIST and
>  AMITYVILLE (sp?) HORROR.  I must have been about 8 yr. old.  After both 
>  movies I got up from my chair and my legs were shaking so much I had to sit
>  down.  Then of course Dad had to carry me up to bed.  :)

Your dad let you watch these two when you were 8? Did he let you play
in the street too? 

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Any Good Vincent Price Movies ?
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:19:24 GMT

In article 9059@ac.dal.ca, 01fortec@ac.dal.ca () writes:
> In article <1992Nov20.002627.5298@microsoft.com>, pierres@microsoft.com (Pierre Stromberg) writes:
> >      I just watched Roger Corman's "The Pit And The Pendulum" again
> > starring Vincent Price. This guy is great ! Does anyone know of other
> > good Vincent Price movies out there ? I heard a rumor about a movie
> > called "Conqueror Worm" that was supposedly well received. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -Pierre Stromberg         Microsoft Corporation         Redmond, Washington
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > uunet!microsoft!pierres   pierres@microsoft.UUCP   decvax!microsoft!pierres
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >      "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" - Samuel Johnson
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> The Raven, absolutely! It's funny, with good plot, sets and characters. It
> also stars Boris Karloff, Peter Lorre and Jack Nicholson. It's directed by
> Roger Corman, and is about a contest between two sorcerers. Don't get it 
> confused with the one starring Bela Lugosi and Boris Karloff. It's good too, 
> but has to do with revenge against a doctor in post-war Europe.
> Joe
> 01fortec@ac.dal.ca
> 

the original raven isnt so funny and actually after its first or second airing they never aired the original again. 
it was that hoorifying. unfortunately i never  got to see it. everytime they would air the original they would air the corny one. guess they buckled under.
has anyone been lucky enough to see the original and not the funny version of the raven ?


---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Tsui Hark filmography?
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:36:02 GMT

In article <4f20pcK00Uh_A5K35U@andrew.cmu.edu> Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Faran Thomason states:
>--On the Chinese Ghost Story films, Swordsman and The Raid it's debatable
>--whether he fully directed these. HE is usally credited as producer and
>Ching --Su Tung is credited as director--but Hark is most assosiated
>with these films)
>
>I don't think this is debatable at all .  Clearly, Tsui Hark has had an
>influence on Ching Siu Tung, but Tsui's own films are very different
>from Ching's.  I like Tsui's films best (PEKING OPERA BLUES may be my
>favorite HK film), but SWORDSMAN II really brought me around to Ching's
>camp.  Of course, the presence of the divine Brigitte Lin in both films
>helps a lot (BTW, can anyone give me a list of her films?).
>
>Ching also did the martial-arts direction for PEKING OPERA BLUES.
>
>
>
>
> 
>

According to the Incredibly Strange Filmshow segment on Tsui, it is 
generally accepted that Tsui takes a keen interest in anything that 
bears his name. They also claim that many of the films that he produces,
bear more of a resemblance to Hark films than the films done previously
by the directors. Compare the early John Woo films to the ones that
Hark produced and you get a good idea of what they mean. After people
have worked for Hark, they do seem to change a bit.

					--Judex--

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:23:23 -0500 
From: Thomas Omar Smith <ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: different endings for rhps?

Excerpts from netnews.alt.cult-movies: 17-Nov-92 different endings for
rhps? Mr. Poopie Pants@zeus.ca (353)

> my roommate swears he's seen a version of rocky horror in which brad and
> janet get married in the end. i think he's full of it. i have been into 
> rocky horror for many years and i've never heard of anything like that. the
> only different ending i've ever heard of and seen is the superheroes ending.
> does his claim have any substance?

> -mr. poopie pants


My guess is that he's confusing RHPS and Shock treatment, where Brad and
Janet are married.  I know of no filming in which a marriage occurs, and
no such scene appears in any script, stage or screen, that I've seen.

					Tom the non hacker
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Re: Any Good Vincent Price Movies ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:45 GMT

There are many great Vincent Price films, many out on video:

The House on Haunted Hill
The Tingler
House of Wax
The Mad Magician
Last Man on Earth
The Raven
Masque of the Red Death
Confessions of an Opium Eater
TheReturn of the Fly
The Conqueror Worm
The Abominable Dr. Phibes
Dr. Phibes Rises Again
Theatre of Blood
Master of the World

These are some of the films with Price at his best; all highly recommended by
a horror film/Vincent Price fan.