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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: New QB for the Vikes (was Re: Gannon's stupidity...)
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:36:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Dec14.043649.1564
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman

In article <1ggv40INNaiv@uwm.edu> caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter) writes:
>
>	You know, I have been thinking about this lately, and with all the
>	free agents avail. after the end of the season, who would you like to
>	see the Vikings pick up to QB? I was thinking of possible QB's
>	that may be avail. after this season.
>
>	V. Testeverde	- May be in his last season with Tampa

        NO!!!


>	J. Montana	- Expensive, but probaly out of Vikings reach.

        If they could, I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Vikes uni.


>	J. Harbaugh	- Bears unhappy with him, he could be avail.

        Wouldn't this be great?  Can't you just see Harbaugh going up
        against Ditka and the Bears?

 
>	B. Esiason	- Klinger future in Cincinnati

        Wouldn't mind seeing this either.


Jim
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:00:10 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: Re: Vikes question
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 13:52:57 GMT




In article <102221@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
->From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
->Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
->Subject: Vikes question
->
->
->I hate to interrupt all these 49er-Cowboys, Vikes-Packer cross flames but
->I'd like to discuss some football if it's okay with you.  The Vikings of
->the late 1980s were a great team on paper:  they had a Pro Bowl quarterback,
->a defense which dominated (and was 1 sack away from the NFL record) and
->a bevy of great wide receivers.  So how come they never made it to the Super
->Bowl?  Could any Vikes fan out there provide a *quick* summary of what 
->happened in their playoff appearance during this time?  Thanks,
->
->satish nair
->bitter & twisted giants fan
->
->
Sure Man.  Here you are.

   VIKINGS 1987 PLAYOFF SCORES:
--------------------------------
        Minn @ NO 44 10
        Minn @ SF 36 24
        Minn @ Wash 10 17

    VIKINGS 1988 PLAYOFF SCORES:
--------------------------------
        Rams @ Minn 17 28
        Minn @ SF 9 34

    VIKINGS 1989 PLAYOFF SCORES:
--------------------------------
         Minn @ SF 13 41

The Vikes met up with the 49ers a few too many times.
Then they destroyed the team by trading for Herschel Walker.

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From: harrisl@unssun.nevada.edu (Larry Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Rice....Touchdown 49errrrrs!
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:45:40 GMT
Reply-To: harrisl@unssun.nevada.edu (Larry Harris)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

49ers       21
Buccaneers  14

Can't say it was the best game I've seen, but it's a W.

Go 49ers!

__
"The brakes were useless, the car was wandering. The rear end was coming around.
I jammed it down into low, but it made no difference and braced for a serious
impact, a crash that would probably kill me.....
"My heart was full of joy as I took the first hit, which was oddly soft and
painless. No real shock at all....Yes. These huge white lumps were not boulders.
They were sheep."
                           "Fear and Loathing in Elko"
                               Hunter S. Thompson 
__
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>> 
>> Before I get too deep into the newsgroup, can I safely hope that we
>> won't get a ton of grousing from the Eagles' fans about the non-first
>> down?  
>> 
>> I watched the game.  I watched the game highlights.  I watched the ESPN
>> highlights.  I watched the evening news.  I saw *no* camera angle that
>> came close to giving the viewer a view as good as the officials'.
>> Emotions aside, there is no basis for disbelieving the veracity of the
>> call.  The player and the ball were in clear view of the official, who
>> was only yards away.  The tackle was quick and clean, and there was no
>      ---------------
>
>Were ????? The closest official I saw was more than 'yards' away.

The closest official is always yards away.  Get used to it because thats
the way it is and it isn't going to change in the near future.  Every spot
a zebra makes is a guess.

>> You don't have to like it, Eagles' fans, but just accept it without
>> a bunch of whining and excuse-making.  Otherwise, you'll look and
>> sound just as tacky as your team did yesterday.
>I guess that this dope is a 49ers fan. I can just imagine the whining we
>would hear if the shoe was on the other foot.

The post was objective - the Eagles players and coaches all came off as
whining babies who could not accept a loss graciously.  What ever happened
to being a good sport?  Face the facts, the Eagles played a poor enough 
game that they were in position to lose based on a close spot.  If the
Eagles had played a dominent game then the spot would not have mattered.
By calling someone a *dope* you are as much a whiner as the Eagle's players.
I guess you must be some *dope* Eagles fan. 

Don Boell
"Just win baby"

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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Re: Greatest team, Bret Favre and Vikes
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:31:04 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Thanx for ur concern for the Viking fans.  We need a lot
of that....:-):-)....

Anyway....my nightmare is: Holmgren and his Pack celebrating
the NFC-Central Championship at the Dome with a shattered
Green looking on with lumps in his throat....
U don't know how devastating it is to lose a big lead
and then see it go down the drain.....But we Vikes'
fans are used to these chokes in the past.

IMO, Green deserves the NFC Central after what he has
done this season.

Will wait & watch.
S.H
Will  the Vikes break my heart in 1992.
From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Aren't there rules against this? (Was:Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 10:11:31 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this


Yes, i yelled at him too, but hey I don't think that it's his fault and i 
wonder if he minds that we keep talking about him like he doesn't exist.

They come in nice intervals of 5 minutes and sometimes 10 minutes, but they
are always almost to the second.  I doubt anyone could keep this up for the
12+ hours that they have been posted.

Therefore, i take back my threat of slashing your tires and simply state that
if it hasn't stopped by the new year then you will find yourself with the
biggest weggie you've ever had fantasies of. I don't want to come back from
Winter Break and find the group saying i have over 5000 unread articles. :)

--David
(Charger Power!!!!!!!!!!!)
Oh, and congrats to USD for their second place finish in the NCAA Div I Mens
Soccer Finals!!!!!!!!!!!)
From: deguc@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Deguc)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Roger Craig on George Seifert
Date: 18 Dec 1992 23:23:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 24482@galaxy.ucr.edu, walid@ucrstat4.ucr.edu (walid al-sabah) writes:
> From the L.A. Times of Thursday 12/17/92
> 
> 
> 	Overrated? Even though San Francisco  49er Coach George   Seifert
> 	has a 54-3 record, including a Super Bowl victory in 1990, former
              ^^^^


Huh???  I destinctly remember the 49er's losing 6 games last year.......



Bob De Guc
Bills fan in *ANY* country!!!
From: kowalski@crim.ca (Allan Kowalski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE FOOTBALL GODS HAVE SPOKEN!!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:04:22 GMT
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal

what a BULLSHIT call !!!!!!!!!

fall back into your own wnd-zone and wait
for the pocket to collapse. brillant call there
jimmy, brillant execution there troy.!!!!!!!!!1

especially when you have an emmit smith
in your backfield.

that game just proves that the cowboys are NOT
ready for the big one yet.

TROY AIKMAN - THE QB YOU WANT WHEN THERE'S 2 MINUTES 
LEFT.

AND YOUR ON THE DEFENSE.

WHAT A SCMUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

agk
From: gerke@cs.utk.edu (Mark Gerke)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rank...
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:26:39 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
Distribution: usa
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rfedkiw@sepulveda.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>These reflect teams ability to make it to Super Bowl.
>Not records.... only post season expectations....
>
>AFC: (1) Buffalo - never lost in Rich Stadium
>                 - been to last two Super Bowls
>                 - has home field advantage
>     (2) K.C. - Can and has beat quality playoff teams this year
>              - when this team gels it's unstoppable 
>              - unfortunately their inconsistant
>                (need first round bye to go, can't win 3 in a row
>                 at playoff level)


Please don't do this to my Chiefs.  The last time someone predicted them to 
do the POWERS THAT BE found it suitable to make them lose a couple of games
that they should have one.  They did not start winning again until people 
stopped thining they were going to even make the playoffs.  I know and love
my Chiefs, they may make the playoffs, but they will not win more than 1 
game, maybe 2 if they play in the wildcard game at home.


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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: BEST team wins Re: Dallas vs Skins
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:22:14 GMT

In article <92349.090216IADGLC@ASUACAD.BITNET> , IADGLC@ASUACAD.BITNET
writes:
>>
>>
>>To John Gloria and all other obnoxious Redskins woofers: the Cowboys
were 1-15
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>in 1989. Heh heh heh. Aren't you still ashamed of that lone Cowboy
victory?
>>And
>>*no way* the Redskins are as good as the Cowboys this year.
>>
>Whoa, there, boy, now, just WHOA. John Gloria is not a Redskins woofer.
He
>pulls for the 49ers, who probably wish he would fall in the bay and
drift out
>to sea, but he most certainly does not woof for the Redskins. He just
seems
>to hate the Cowboys. As a Redskins fan, so do I, but in such a way that I
>love the Boys-Skins rivalry, and I love seeing it become something
again. My
>congratulations to the Cowboys' fans who have accepted yesterday's loss
with
>class and dignity. Most of them. "No way the Redskins are as good as the
>Cowboys this year"? 20-17 yesterday, and Yesterday is the only game that
>counts right now. ;)

I personally watched the game with my ex-friend (: who is a big-time
skins woofer.  He took the Irving thrashing with good dignity so I had no
choice but remain cool.  I am glad to see cooler heads prevailing (I
tried not to lose my cool).  The simple fact is:  Cowboys are the second
team in and this game won't mean anything in the end.  I regret having to
go to SanFran, but someone has to do it...

To all (real) skins fans:  Good luck in Philly next week, then you should
have the Lams withou much problem (watch that Everett guy, he's a tricky
one), then you get to play in New Orleans for the honor of going to
Irving and the revenge-minded 'Boys.  Have a good winter! (;

FRANK


__________________________________________
Go 'Canes & Cowboys
frank@wanda.princeton.edu
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: BEST team wins Re: Dallas vs Skins
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:15:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.055839.35332@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>>Even Emmitt sat on it and gave up a safety, the game wasn't over then.
>>The Skins would have had the ball in midfield.  Who knows what's going 
>>to happen next? It's not a cinch that the Boys would have won the game. 
>>So why speculate?
>
>Why not, you are... what golden rule gives the Skins the ball at midfield??
After the safety, Dallas has to kick/punt. Brian Mitchell can return.

>Guess you are "speculating" that they would have it there, right???
Right. Oh, so you are saying that I shouldn't speculate? In that case,
neither should the Dallas fan. The game wasn't over yet.

But the end result: Washinston beat Dallas.

Boy, are you on my side or what? 

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Results and Impressions from Saturday's Games
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:54:49 GMT
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Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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Bills 27 Broncos 17

The Bills prevailed over the Broncos after a tremendous
scare in the 4th qtr in a game marred by turnovers and
some sloppy play in the first qtr. There were about 5 or 6
t.o's in the first 10 mts and neither team looked ready
to play. The Bills then tried a double reverse in the 2nd
qtr and it resulted in a T.D. pass from Kelly to Beebe
who was open it seemed on every play. The Bills then
handed over the reins to Thomas and jumped to a 24 - 0
lead but the Broncos came back. First a T.D. pass to
Shannon Sharpe ( The announcers really got on my nerves
after some time by constantly referring to Sterling , his
brother and the Packers  Dick and Bob - get a clue)
a FG and a TD run by (Oh God I forgot his name - I thinl
it is Rivers). and suddenly they were within 7 . But
two things to keep in mind. Elway was not playing and 
Thomas who was went on a big play (about 20 yds) and
the Bills won by 10.

if I were a Bronco fan I would say only one thing to
Elway . It was sheer stupidity on his part to dive headlong
and hurt his shoulder in a game which they were on the
way to winning and this has resulted in 4 losses.

Cards 19 Giants 0

A bore . Unless you are a Card fan or a Ray hater.
I think he is gone from the Big Apple next year.

Tomorrow's Key Games
--------------------

Niners at Vikings
Cowboys at Redskins
Packers at Oilers
Steelers at Bears
Eagles at Seahawks
Browns at Lions
Patriots at Chiefs

All these game's outcomes will affect 
Division/WildCard/Bye/Homefield

Of Course there are some games which will
have a strong effect on the 1993 NFL Draft:-):-)

Bye for Now.
From: grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Play of the Day (Skins/Dallas)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 05:34:50 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
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Keywords: Lucky Break! Aikman

merrill@devvax.stsci.edu (Clark) wrote:
>I have seen it on three different angles from the back of the end zone.  It
>was definately a fumble!  I also think Emmit Smith was down in the end zone.

I have seen it from 3 angles myself (including WUSA's own camera) & I agree.

On "Casserly's Corner", Charley Casserly said that the Skins had watched the
game films & were convinced it was a fumble & that Smith was down.
He didn't address the issue of having possession.

Jon  (I love being back in the DC area, if only for a month)
From: hariharn@khan.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: A BIG SORRY ..... It was a system error.
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:58:12 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

About 100 copies of one of my articles got posted on r.s.f.p. 
I am sorry for what happened over the last weekend.
It was obviously not my fault; something is wrong with the news 
reader here. I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused 
and promise to check with my system manager before I post next time. 


 
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Jimmy Johnson: Love em or hate em, he's a winner (and a whiner)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:18:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.175906.3431@bnr.ca> reams@bnr.ca writes:
>No protest was filed. 
Well, we all know that he spent the entire Monday complaining to
the league office about the call. Was that a protest or just whining?

>And there were no shots of him flaming away at the
>refs; something else for which JJ is known. Instead he was (most-likely) 
>setting the offense for the next drive.  Moving right along,.....
until the final gun, then he lives on the controversial call ....

>|> fumble not being an outright wrong call.
>(or an outright correct call)
So what if it's not an outright correct call? My point was that even in
OUTRIGHT INCORRECT calls, the Joe Gibbs/Dan Reeves don't spend the next
two days putting up a soap opera. So who has more class? a Gibbs/Reeves who
can take an outright incorrect call like a man, or a JJ who can't let a 
"not outright correct/incorrect call" go?

>And of course, you have personal knowledge that he is moping around
>his office and the locker room, not preparing the Cowboys for their
>game in Atlanta.
I have personal knowledge that he was whining in front of the media. I
saw it on ESPN last nite. Whether he prepares for Atlanta or not doesn't
erase the fact that he whined.

>All we see is what any coach wants us to see. A show for teevee. JJ is
>a master psychologist. This team feeds off of him. If he's dwelling on
>it, he wants the entire team to think about it. There is a purpose to
>it. 
But whining is not the only way to make your team a winner. At least Gibbs
doesn't have to resort to such low-end method.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: non-kickers kicking (was Re: Kickers doing double duty as punters)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:05:32 GMT
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In article <1992Dec15.211823.16030@rtsg.mot.com> swenson.rtsg.mot.com  
(R. Scott Swenson) writes:
> What about the Bears and their backup until 2 years ago.  It was DT  
Steve 
> "Mongo" McMichael.  I think he kicked 2 or 3 during his career

Terry Bradshaw punted at least once during his rookie year. It went
about 30 yards.

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From: adeptus@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Pascal Joyeux)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: What did happen in Anaheim ???
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:51:11 GMT
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany


  Please, please, can anyone tell me what the hell happened with the Rams last
sunday. The game wasn't on the air in my region so I just had to watch the
scores (6:0, 13:0, 20:0, 23:0, 30:0, ... 37:14). How could this happen after 
loosing by only 3 points (13-10) in New Orleans earlier this season ?

  I need informations !!!



GO RAMS, beat up Neon Deion and co. in two weeks and finish third in the 
NFC-WEST


		Pascal

adeptus@cd.tu-berlin.de
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From: hammond@grizzly.scd.ucar.edu (Steve Hammond)
Subject: Re: NFL Tiebreakers
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:42:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.215304.15817@asl.dl.nec.com>, nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:
> The following is a summary of NFL tie-breaking procedures as printed in the
> Dallas Morning News.  FYI.  Based on that:
> 
> AFC Races: 
> o If Buffalo ties Pittsburgh or Miami ties Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh would
>   gain homefield advantage based on best Conference record (the best Miami can
>   do is 8-3, the best Buffalo can do is 8-4, and the worst Pittsburgh can do
>   is 9-3).

This is false.   If Buffalo and Pitt. are in a 2-way tie for the best record 
in the AFC, BUFFALO gets the home field advantage since they won the head-
to-head game a few weeks ago.

   Steve H.
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