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From: "BULGAK, AKIF ASIL" <bulgak@vax2.concordia.ca>
Subject: pre power amp compatibility advice requested
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:08:18 GMT
          12 Aug 92 18: 00 GMT


Hi there;
I am in the market to purchase a used high-end power amplifier. The
brands that I am interested in are Krell, Mark Levinson, Jeff Rowland,
Treshold, and Classe. The pre amp to be used with the power amp to be
purchased is a Krell KSP-7B. The speakers are Martin Logan Sequel II's.

I would greatly appreciate to hear your response, if you would have 
the experience and/or knowledge in the following issues:

a)Naturally, a Krell power amp will be a good match to the Krell KSP-7B
pre amp. However, in case I cannot find a Krell power amp, would any of the 
above mentioned power amps be a good match to the Krell pre amp? Or will
there be any compatibilty problems? I recall one Streophile reviwer 
mentioning such a problem between a Krell pre amp and a Levinson power
amp.

b)Which of these power amps will be a better match to Martin Logan 
Sequel II speakers?

c)Anybody wants to sell one of these power amps?

Please forward your responses to "bulgak@vax2.concordia.ca".
Thanx in advance.

Akif A. Bulgak
Concordia University
Montreal, Quebec Canada              e-mail: bulgak@vax2.concordia.ca
From: sar@philabs.philips.com (Sidney A. Rosenzweig)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Re: Speakers for < $500
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:03:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: philabs.1992Aug18.193206.28699
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

In article <9208171457.AA17361@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil> bchall@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil writes:
>
>
>On 10 August, vogelv@spot.Colorado.EDU (VOGEL VINCENT PHILIP) wrote:
>
>>I am looking for the best speakers I can get for under $500.
>>
>>I'm not too concerned about bass limitations.
>>I am considering Paradigm 5se/3se or Paradigm Phantom.
>>I would much appreciate a list of any speakers you think I might want to
>>listen to.  I have heard that Paradigm has few rivals for the $$$. 
>>Thanks.
>
>You may want to try Siefert Research Maxim III or Maxim III H (my last price
>quote was ($399 and $499, respectively).  I currently own a pair of Maxim III
>H's (had them about 2 years) and I'm pretty pleased with them.  A friend has
>a pair of Maxim III's and is also quite happy.
>

I like the PSB MKII line. It was just discontinued, and I haven't heard the
new stuff. The MKII 40 received rave reviews from Stereophile. I have the
MKII 50 which has a slightly bigger cabinet, with a 1" tweeter, rather than a
3/4" tweeter. I got my 50 MKII in June for $400, and the MKII 40's should
probably run in the mid $300s.  Also, the new speakers from PSB are in the
same price range, but it would be hard to get any of them discounted.

Sid
From: sureshv@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Suresh Venkateswaran)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Re: KEF Status?
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:13:08 GMT
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


In article <9208171647.AA03203@newstand.syr.edu> bwdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (davies) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug13.201300.18940@mcc.com>, engelke@maximillion.mcc.com (Ned Engelke) writes...
>>Does anyone out there have any information about what is
>>going on with KEF?
>
>
>Still, it's possible that the American KEF reps will finally get back
>on their feet and actively support their products.  Otherwise, there's
>going to be a lot of orphaned pairs here in the States.

I thought KEF was bought out by Polk Audio, and that Polk would
continue to support all KEF products in market.

Suresh
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: Andy Sheen <sheen@src.bae.co.uk>
          Wed, 19 Aug 92 16: 34:53 BST
Subject: CD players, are they all the same ?
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:13:15 GMT
          id <sg.27711-0@ben.uknet.ac.uk>; Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16: 49:14 +0100
          id <18625-0@eros.uknet.ac.uk>; Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16: 49:09 +0100



Can anyone tell me why CD transports can cost several thousand dollars
(they can cost the equivalent of that over here :). It seems that it is
possible to get a CD transport for a very few bucks which reads data
correctly - the CD ROM drives springing up around here all read ROM
disks correctly, without losing 1 bit (:-D) of information over several
hundreds of MB. Not only that, they can do it incredibly reliably,
without special feet or isolation tables and not lose information from
1 player to the next. They also have all the bus interface circuitry
logic necessary and most even have an audio (hi-fi??) headphone output
for normal CD's to boot.

Am I missing something here ? Is the method of reading the data, rate
at which it is read, error correction on disk etc. that much different
to a music CD ?  Or are we being overcharged for an (albeit very nice
in some cases) overkill on engineering on the transport (especially for
separate transports) ?

If you follow my reasoning to its logical conclusion, it should be
possible to buy a cheap (few hundred dollar) CD transport and hook it
to a decent D/A and get exactly the same sound as a very expensive CD
transport through the same D/A assuming that the output circuitry were
identical. Why is this not the case, or is it? Is it because the output
circuitry is so bad ?

Just wondering...

Andy Sheen                                 Email: sheen@src.bae.co.uk
FPC 267, British Aerospace PLC,            Tel:   +44-272-363547
P.O. Box 5, Filton,                        Fax:   +44-272-363733
Bristol. BS12 7QW                          #include <disclaimer.h>



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From: eacj@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Julian Vrieslander)
Subject: Re: Counterpoint? Quality?
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:07:20 GMT

In article <Bsu519.9vo@solbourne.com> kucharsk@Solbourne.COM (William Kucharski) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a nice solid state preamp that sounds about the same as
>the Counterpoint?  I like what I've heard from the Counterpoint, but have a
>big problem with tubed equipment, especially when the last few countries that
>manufacture tubes seem to be disappearing off the map daily (I believe China
>may be the last big tube manufacturer...)

I once heard that Counterpoint was negotiating to buy a tube factory in an
eastern European country (Czechoslovakia?).  Maybe somebody else in net-land
has more recent info on this.



-- 
Julian Vrieslander 
Neurobiology & Behavior, Mudd Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853    
INTERNET: eacj@theory.tc.cornell.edu     BITNET: eacj@crnlthry
UUCP: ..cornell!batcomputer!eacj

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: sohl.barry@goofy.apple.com (Barry Sohl)
Subject: Re: Apogee Stage subwoofers
Followup-To: rec.audio.high-end
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:17:57 GMT


In article <0095EEE9.4D909780.20363@camins.Camosun.BC.CA>,
dbarker@camins.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker) wrote:
> 
> Some time ago somebody mentioned a forthcoming dedicated subwoofer for
> the Apogee Stages. Does anyone have more info, like availability or
> (gulp) price?

Supposedly they should be available next month as part of the new
'mini-Grand' combination.  Basically they will be the Stages with the
dedicated subs.  I've heard the package price will be $4500.  Separately
they'll be around $2800 for the pair (subs).  These are approximate figures
I've heard through the grapevine, I don't claim ultimate accuracy.

-Barry Sohl
===================
Just me, no quotes
===================

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: Jan-Hein.Buhrman@cwi.nl (Jan-Hein Buhrman)
Subject: Re: Speakers for under $500
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:04:20 GMT


vogelv@spot.Colorado.EDU (VOGEL VINCENT PHILIP) writes:

>I am looking for the best speakers I can get for under $500.

>I'm not too concerned about bass limitations.

>I have a Denon ___-860 Preamp/amp and an Onkyo CD player.

>I am considering Paradigm 5se/3se or Paradigm Phantom.

>I thought that it might be best to find a soft pair since my system tends to
>be on the bright side.

>I would much appreciate a list of any speakers you think I might want to listen
>to.  I have heard that Paradigm has few rivals for the $$$.  Thanks.

This is Henk de Vries from NL. SOFT PAIR?? NO!! Do not try to compensate
shortcomings with other compromises!! Best bet will be AUDAX (French)
loudspeaker KITS! This will give you maximum quality for $  (even incl
shipping from Europe to US) Need more general info on ls construction?
just ask.
rgds, Henk.

Henk de Vries
P.O. Box 206
1430 AE  Aalsmeer
The Netherlands

-- Jan-Hein Buhrman -- CWI, Amsterdam -- <jh@cwi.nl> --
``Relax..., you're quite safe here'' --- Lady on Art of Noise's Paranoimia
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From: creatch@milton.u.washington.edu (Lars Gilstrom)
Subject: Magnavox mod question
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: creatch@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:14:41 GMT
  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <rec-audio-high-end@ames.arc.nasa.gov>); Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12: 39:38 -0700

	I'm currently planning to replace the output stage of my 
Magnavox CDB-465 with tubes (novel idea, aye?).  I was wondering 
if some one could tell me how much gain is required and what the 
the output impendance is for the last IC chip and for that matter
what is the last chip is, is it the DAC or something else.  Or
if some one is willing to sell the tech manual to a poor EE student,
I'm willing to do that too.

Lars

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: mailrus!ulowell!aspen.ulowell.edu!freedmanm@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Re: Opinions on Dahlquist speakers?
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Lowell
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:10:15 GMT
	(queueing-rmail) id 164203.26144; Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16: 42:03 EDT
  (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4 for uunet!rec-audio-high-end); Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16: 25:16 -0400

In article <1992Aug20.002101.18249@oracle.us.oracle.com>, oracle!mlin@uunet.UU.NET (Michael Lin) writes:
> 
> Has anyone had any experiences with the new line of Dahlquist speakers?

DQs are phenominal speakers... The only prob is that they are only like 86db
efficient.. MAJOR POWER HUNGRY.  If you have a good amp, give them a shot.
						Mike.

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: yen@stsci.edu (Felix Yen)
Subject: Audiomart
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:09:10 GMT

Our moderator writes:
>  [and to stem the inevitable flood of "how do I subscribe" messages,
>  you have to be sponsored by someone who already gets it. -tjk]

I am not a subscriber, but I was able to give a subscription to
a friend of mine as a Christmas present last year.  At that time,
the requirement was for a *reference*, usually another subscriber.
This reference may also be an audio dealer.  I surreptitiously
found out where my friend made his last audio purchase and gave
that store as his reference.  (He read some ads from one issue
to me over the telephone; I was not favorably impressed.)

Phone:	(804) 645 8816
Cost:	about US$27 for 12 issues (biweekly I think)


Felix
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: shendry@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Slamet Hendry)
Subject: Re: what have we learned
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:37:58 GMT

>  If you've seen 'natural' mentioned above it's because the 2nd, 3rd,  
>  and 4th rules of audio are 'natural sounding', 'natural sounding' and
>  'natural sounding'. Initial comments like 'gee that's loud', 'really
>  nice bass', 'good detail' and such possibly indicate some problems.
>
>  John Ongtooguk (johno@sdd.hp.com)                

I've been wondering about this. What exactly is natural sounding or
neutral sounding (are they the same?) reproduction? I don't have any
problem w/ non-electrical instruments like grand piano, drums, violin,
etc. But what about those electrical instruments such as electric bass,
synthesizer, slide guitar, etc. There is no way you can compare their
sound reproduction w/ the real thing, since the sound itself is produced
by electrical intruments, as opposed to comparing piano reproduction w/
the real piano.

- Slamet Hendry

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: ubhjp@sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (H.-J. Pfeffer)
Subject: Re: CANTON, NAD, JBL
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:06:01 GMT
   (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Mon, 17 Aug 92 10: 21:44 MEZ


Hi there !
I'm listening quite a while to a combination of NAD and JBL. NAD I have since
they appeared on the European market starting with with the old 3020. My JBL's
I have since about 17 years and I do have problems to find other speakers which
sound much better for a reasonable price. (I'm looking for speakers, not for a
car:) Now to the malfunctions. The old NAD 3020 after some years produced a
lack of contact in the phono-input. And now his follow-up in my home produces
a little scratching when turning the volume ( it's a 3300PE, Monitor series).
But besides that they both had an exellent reproducing level to my ears.
No malfunction with the JBL's so far. I think I'll keep them.
As said in another posting I think speaker manufacturers have their own ideas   about sound reproducing. And this differs from country to country too.          I don't like the "CANTON -Sound". Bund" ove the JBL's. They fit to the music I'mlistening to and that's important for me
Greetings from Germany -
H.-J. Pfeffer (139.174.1.3) Technical University Clausthal - Germany.


Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: So...You've always wanted to be in the circus. <brambo@eco.twg.com>
Subject: Experience buying expensive speakers from 6th Ave
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Phone:        703-847-4500 (Voice); 703-847-4520 (Fax)
Address:      2010 Corporate Ridge Drive, Suite 550, McLean, VA 22102
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Inc., East Coast Operations
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:19:04 GMT

Hi,

        Does anyone have anything good to say about buying gray market
speakers from 6th avenue.  I am looking at buying a pair of KEF 105.3s.
I understand there is a tradeoff in warranty vs price.

	I am assuming that speakers pretty much work out the box and would
be interested in hearing from anyone that has gone that route.

	Thanks,
		Mark

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: romeo@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Michael Stimac)
Subject: Re: Eminent Technology Model 8s
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: BT North America (Tymnet)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:08:34 GMT


In article <19920810.062231.761@almaden.ibm.com> BARRON@RHQVM14.VNET.IBM.COM writes:
>Recently I spoke to a dealer over the phone trying to find prices on
>Magnapan 1.5s (Which I have given up on finding a discount).
>

You won't find a discount - Magnepan only sells to dealers
who agree not to discount their product. If you don't want
to pay the asking price, why not find a "previously-owned"
pair for sale. 

In my opinion, Magnepans are well-worth the asking price. 
Why deprive yourself of something you like just because of
the discount concept (most consumer goods have phoney
list prices so they can be "discounted" back to a real price).

Michael Stimac

-- 
Michael Stimac
(415) 355-8889
romeo@tymnet.com
These opinions are not necessarily anyone's but my own.

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: byrns-j@gamma.corp.mot.com (John Byrns)
Subject: Re: Power conditioners, Comparisons thereof...
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:08:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.025704.64421@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, dfk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (David F. Keppel) writes:
> 
> Can anybody explain the difference between a "hospital" grade outlet as
> opposed to a residential or commercial one?  What affect does this have
> on audio?
> 

I have been told that a "hospital" grade outlet is the same as, or similar to
an isolated ground outlet, although I have no actual knowledge that this is
true. At any rate an isolated ground outlet, as used in computer installations,
differs in at least two ways, that I know of, from an ordinary 3 wire outlet.
First it is either molded from orange plastic with a small black triangle
stamped somewhere on it, or it has a small orange insert.with a small black
triangle stamped on it. This facilitates identifying it as an isolated ground
outlet. The important difference between an ordinary outlet and an isolated
ground outlet, is that the ground pin is not connected to the frame of the
outlet. It is connected only to the screw used to attach the green ground wire.
The frame of the outlet is isolated from the ground screw by a small sheet of
insulation. This isolates the ground from the conduit that carries the power
wires, and allows you to implement a star grounding system, using a green wire
back to the central power panel ground bus. I am no electrician, so do not
depend on what I have said, and verify these facts with your electrician.

John


Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: Does a decent preamp for <= $500 exist?
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:06:09 GMT


Anyone have experience with the Electrocompaniet preamps...?
I'm considering one for taking line input from a:
Sony x55es
Nakamichi CR4e
12 channel mixer

into a Deca 424 (Peavy's studio/PA digital amp - I'm a musician, O.K.????!!!)

and out through a pair of Infinity (forgot the model nr.) and a pair of Tannoy
(ditto) speakers.

Thoughts, comments, advice?

Regards,
Thor

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: kcalica@pyrman2.mis.pyramid.com (Kelly Calica)
Subject: $5000 system/Definitive Technology BP-10
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: kcalica@pyrman2.mis.pyramid.com (Kelly Calica)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:10:32 GMT


Glad to report we are very happy with our Definitive Technology BP-10.
Our stereo is on from the moment we get home to the time we go to bed.
The voices seem real to life, the sound staging and imaging are great.
The low base is tight..(We listen to straight ahead jazz, vocals, classical,
opera, lots of acoustic recordings.)

We tried Vandersteen, Theil, Spica, Epos.  All were roughly around the same
$$ range.  But Theils required the addition of a subwoofer ($).  And
Vandersteens needed to be on stands (more $).  Spica and Epos just 
didn't make the grade, nor did Magnapan.  Didn't want to listen to the
bigger ribbon speakers.  Who has two extra feet behind the speakers in
their listening/living room?

What makes the BP-10s work for us?  The combination of components of course.
Our reference system consists of Sony X7 CD player, Conrad Johnson PV-8
pre-amp, Classe Audio amplifier, the BP-10s, kimber kable.  

And yes, we did manage to buy our system for under $5000.  In fact, we would
not have made this purchase if we didn't stumble upon a used Classe Audio
amp,a store demo Conrad Johnson, and the previous year's  Sony CD player.

Anyone looking to put together a system for ~$5000 needs to seriously
consider including some used equipment.  Othewise, you will most likely
have to upgrade in order to get sound you can enjoy a lifetime.

I don't expect to upgrade any part of our system.  We may add a tuner
and or d/a converter, as long as it is used.

With this in mind...
Audition like crazy.  Make a shopping list.  And check out the San Franciso
Chronicle.  My local audiophiles tell me its better than the Los Angeles Times.
Just read - McComack DNA1 for 1350, Theil 3S for 500.  There are always
people upgrading.  

Note:  We have just recently auditioned the XLO interconnects.  It improved
an already satisfactory sound stage, tightened up the base.  The voices
and those drums sound so sweet.  We will soon enough be adding new inter-
connects, and probably new speaker cable.  Tweaking a system is not as
costly as upgrading a component or speakers.  We have found ways of improving
the quality of our sound without spending thousands of dollars. 

Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
From: frank@ingres.com (Frank Geick - INGRES/ADVISOR x3558)
Subject: Re: Subs for Spica TC-50's
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: frank@Ingres.COM
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:08:23 GMT
	by ingres.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/INGRES/zool/08.19.92)

In article <Bt94v7.23A@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ramsey@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (curtis ramsey) writes:
>I'm looking for a good subwoofer match for my Spica TC-50's anyone
>have any suggestions?

I would try to find a used Spica Servo subwoofer made for that speaker.
It has an internal 50W amp for the 10" woofer. The beauty of John Bau's
design work is in the phase coherence of the crossover in the TC-50's
(and the careful driver matching); which produces the imaging capabilites
of that speaker. The subwoofer was designed to preserve that coherence.

They were about $650 new and probably sell used for $300 or so now. You
can use one common mode sub. or separate L & R units. They don't put out
tons of bass, but go reasonably low. If you follow the setup procedures
using the test tape, you'll get "subtle" bass. For example an acoustic
bass will be full range and precisely imaged.

You can get more bass by turning up the input sensitivity pot., but you
get tubby base, and other subs will do better if you want "technocolor" 
bass, eg. something like a small powered Velodyne.

I rewired the passive crossover box with better rca plugs, wire, and 
components (replaced the pot with a fixed value resistor once I had the
system adjusted to my amp driving the TC50's) and replaced the rca plugs
and wiring in the sub when the female rca plug ground lug lost it's solder
connection to the sub's amp pc board.

I don't think the subs are made any more. Bau went on to produce the Angelus
which has the 10" woofer and better tweeter; providing the same range without
the cable and amp matching hassles. Bau is a physicist, and produces
only two way designs because the mathematical theory used for x-over design
only models the two driver case. (I think this applies to all models: 
butterworth, chebyshev, etc- it's been 10 years since I heard his lecture).
From: su1bc!segallis@UCSD.EDU (greg segallis)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: CD Player Question
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:38:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: trantor.1992Aug14.195520.28772
Reply-To: su1bc!segallis@UCSD.EDU (greg segallis)
Organization: GCSD CAE Harris Corp.
	sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP
	Fri, 14 Aug 92 12: 56:14 -0700 for info-high-audio@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

My current full size cd player recently died.  I am trying to decide whether
to get a bare bones, full size, single disc unit or a portable player (the
ones I have found are about the same price - so cost is not an issue).  I
already have a portable that I can take to work, in the car, the garage, etc.
So I really don't need the portability (although it would be nice).  But why
should I give up all that wall unit space for a full size, if a portable is
just as good.

So my questions are this:

1)	Is there any performance difference between a portable and a full
	size (low end full size)?

2)	My old unit specified a dynamic range (signal to noise ratio) of
	somewhere around 92 - 95 dB.  Most of the portables seem to spec only
	about 86 dB.  The 16 bits of the data would theoretically make it
	96 dB (regardless of the unit).  I assume the loss is due to the
	anaolog portion of the d/a converter and amp circuitry?

3)	Is this difference really noticable?

4)	If so, to what degree?

5)	And is the extra space, power, and lack of mobility worth buying a
	full size for this difference?

Thanks,
Greg Segallis    segallis@su25d.ess.harris.com