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From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Mail from Internet to Prodigy?
Summary: Money talks in Prodigy-land
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:09:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: frackit.1694
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.


 In article <1992Oct07.183001.2353@sco.COM>, erics@sco.COM (eric smith) writes:
 > grady@world.std.com (Dick Grady) writes:
 > >Prodigy has announced that an Internet connection will be established by
 > >the end of this year for Prodigy users with MSDOS computers, and by next
 > >Spring for those with MacIntosh computers.
 > >Prodigy users will pay a surcharge to read mail from the Internet.
 
 > Interesting reversal of position on Prodigy's part. A while back they
 > were saying there would never be an Internet gateway; it was not possible
 > because their internal communications were not in ascii format (!).
 > I wonder how it suddenly became possible?

It became feasible the very moment they suddenly realized that they
could make money from it. 

Besides, given the projected loss for the last quarter at IBM revealed
today, they can probably use the $$$. I'm sure Sears can as well. 

The impossible always becomes possible when their's profit involved. 

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: downloading GIFS + jpegs to a Mac
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:39:38 GMT

reeddy@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ronald E. Eddy) writes:
: 
: 
: I'm fairly new to the net and I would like to know how to download and veiw
: GIFs and jpegs from <<newsgroups>> to my macintosh LCII.  I can anonymous 
: FTP stuff and all that, but when it comes to gettig pictures from newsgroups
: (such as alt.supermodels) I'm lost.  Do I have to decode these on my main-
: frame (Unix)?  Can I just transfer them to my mac as ascII files then 
: decode them there?  What applications are best for this and for viewing?
: (and if I cant get these at sumex, where can I get them)
: 
: Thanks ahead of time
: 
Here's the general process. Bring the file to the Unix system that
you are  talking about here..

If the file is compressed or packed with a Unix-based packing
program, you can either unpack it on the Unix system, or go
hunting for the Mac version of the needed packing program. Then
download the file to your Mac. I like the program sz (send zmodem)
If your Unix system doesn't have this, it is available for anon. ftp.

FYI - If you see things like filename.Z or filename.tar this is
Unix.

There are also sx and sy programs for xmodem and ymodem protocols
if your Mac software cannot handle zmodem.
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mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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From: vander@flab.fujitsu.co.jp (Mike van der Velden)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Announcement for Newusers
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:34:07 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., Kawasaki, Japan

In article <1992Oct8.182947.22133@news.unomaha.edu> hramchan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Harish Ramchandani) writes:
> Presidential Election date is November 3, Tuesday.  Get yourselves
> registered to vote.  Technically  you can register till te last
> day. But you may not get the acknowledgement for the registration
> in time. Therefore register early. Call your County Election Commission 
> for more information.
> 
> This is a public service message from  Creighton University, College of
> Business Administration

Cool!  I never even knew we *had* a president!  We had elections a
couple of months ago, too.   Hmmm.... Do the taxpayers know about
this?

Your service announcement wasn't clear enough, though.  I couldn't
find any "County Election Commission" in the Tokyo phone book.  Oh.
It's not for Japan?  Then why the hell did you post with a world-wide
distribution?

Idiot.
 
--
Mike van der Velden
Distributed Systems Laboratory, Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., Kawasaki, Japan
e-mail: vander@flab.fujitsu.co.jp

ps. If you send me a picture postcard      Mike van der Velden
    from your area to the address at       Fujitsu Unoki Dormitory, room 227
    right, I'll send you one from Tokyo.   2-17-18 Unoki, Ota-ku, Tokyo 146
    Postcards must be received by          Japan
    November 15, 1992
From: yoder@austin.ibm.com (Stuart R. Yoder)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: is this appropriate use of usenet?
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:49:49 GMT
Reply-To: yoder@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: yoder@yoder.austin.ibm.com


I have a question I been looking for an answer to for a couple of
days and still can't get anything definite.    The question is:
is it appropriate to do a product survey -- I work in IBM AIX developement
and am interested in posting a survey to comp.unix.aix regarding
customers complaints of AIX, features they would like to see added, how they
compare us with HP,SUN,DEC,etc, and any other feedback they want to
give.  Is this appropriate use of Usenet?  I've seen magazines doing
surveys and students doing surveys -- is it appropriate for a business
to do a survey about it's own product.

I've talked to our local newsfeed administrator, looked at the newgroups
new.admin, new.announce.newusers, news.sysadmin, news.admin.policies, looked
at a book I have regarding Usenet usage and cannot find a definite
answer.

-- 
-Stuart
-----------------------------------------------------------
My opinions are mine and not those of my employer.
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: FAQ: How to find people's
From: john.eichler@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (John Eichler) 
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: john.eichler@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (John Eichler) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121


> (continued next message....)

This information was quite informative but I'm not sure that I got it
all.  I received 3 pages and at the end of the last page was the
above line.

Might you be able to post the article again and use the 'Subj:' field to
indicate x/y  where x is the current message number and y is the total
messages that make up the document.

Many thanks...
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: drdowns@bach.udel.edu (David R. Downs)
Subject: ZiffNet - What / Where is it?
Followup-To: sender
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:15:51 GMT

  I read about several Shareware Windows programs in the latest Computer 
Shopper that sound well worth getting.  They are supposed to be available on
ZiffNet and ZiffNet for Prodigy, but I have never heard of ZiffNet.  (I
understand ZiffNet for Prodigy, but I don't have, nor do I want, Prodigy).  

  Could someone tell me:  a)  What ZiffNet is.

			  b)  How to get to it.  Is there an Internet or
                                BitNet gateway?  etc.

  Thanks for any and all information.

  David

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: lindae@netcom.com
Subject: Talk and NTalk
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:09:42 GMT



I have been trying to use "talk" or "ntalk" to commuicate with my
dad on the East Coast. It's not working.  He is not on a Sun Server
but I though that "ntalk" was supposed to solve that problem.  

Here's what we've tried...

I type "ntalk" followed by his address. On his screen, he sees that I"m
trying to call him and he responds with "talk lindae@netcom.netcom.com"
It doesn't connect.  We've also tried doing the same thing in reverse.
When we do it that way, I get a message that he's trying to call me, and
I type "ntalk" followed by his address.  I get a message that says
something like "cannot connect...that address already in use" (or something
like that)

Any suggestions?

Thanks.
lindae@netcom.com
From: ernie@s850.mwc.edu (Ernest C Ackermann)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Listserve
Date: 14 Oct 1992 22:21:11 -0400
Organization: Mary Washington College
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: s850.mwc.edu

In article <Bw2vFx.E51@hsi.com> siperas@hsi.com (Steve Siperas) writes:
>Hi
>
>Would anyone know if there is a list of all Listserve sites with 
>the subjects they maintain?
>
	there are several. One to try is anonymous ftp to
	ftp.nisc.sri.com
	the file(s) you want are in the directory netinfo.

	I've mentioned some others in an article thats available by
	anonymous ftp at s850.mwc.edu. the article is in the file
	articles/esccc8.txt.

	If you don't have access to ftp, I'll mail it to you if you'd
	like

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Ernest C. Ackermann
Department of Computer Science	 Mary Washington College
Fredericksburg, VA 22401-5358	 703 - 899 - 4031
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez)
Subject: Btoa/atob
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:08:06 GMT

Hello, can someone give me information on where I could get a copy of
btoa, I got some files that are in btoa format, and I used UUDECODE and
ZOO and it doesnt work, I was told that I need a btoa program in order to
decode it, can someone send me a copy of there btoa via email, as uuencode
Thanks.....


===============================================================
 Richard Velez :> IRC: Rickie <:          Electronic Mail
 South Bronx, Homeboy!               Richard Velez - 1:278/712
 Born and Raise in New York City     Ricky@MindVox.Phantom.Com
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan)
Subject: Re: "Problem with your active file"
Organization: w8hd.org
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:12:30 GMT

I received the same thing here. I think it was within a few days of 10/6.
kim culhan
------
kimc@w8hd.org
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: I am looking for....
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:30:17 GMT

Richard.de.Mos@p21.f112.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Richard de Mos) writes:

>Hello All!

>I am looking a newsgroup on accountancy, auditing and administraion.

>I posted this message about a week ago. I did not get any anwsers, my uplink
>lost some messages so please reply again if you will,peferably NOT by personal
>mail because that is not well at the moment.

>I have list of about 600 newsgroups and i did not find anything about the
>subject, if there is a group I can ask my uplink to pass it trough to me.

Yes ... as there are very few business-oriented netters (most are 
computing-oriented or flame-oriented :), there are almost no
business-related and accounting-related newsgroups ... So why not
set up alt.accounting, alt.accounting.research, alt.accounting.auditing?
... 

Samuel 
A would-be accountant ...

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston)
Subject: Need help with rn
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:13:12 GMT

Hi,
  When using rn to read news, I get the following error:

  Too many lines in .newsrc

  rn aborts on this error. Does anyone out there know how to fix
  this problem? If I delete part of my .newsrc file, rn will start up
  but it rebuilds the .newsrc file and I've got the same problem
  next time I read news. xrn works fine, but don't always have the
  X interface. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd prefer E-mail.
-- 
************************      Don't just do it!     ***********************
Lockheed Eng. and Sci. Co./Nasa Larc|J. Keith Alston jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov
From: harris@morisot.cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Help finding machines on a system.
Date: 12 Oct 92 04:28:00 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <9210101857.AA10738@toto.cis.ohio-state.edu> garlock@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (erin jon garlock) writes:
>
>I would like to know if there is a way to find out what machines are connected to any particular system.  
>example%   cis.ohio-state.edu   has lionfish and skink and flamingo....
>example%   plymouth.edu		has oz
>and so on and so forth.
>
>where can i find this info for any random system??
>thanks.

I don't have an answer for you, but I do have a question:  why?

The beauty of the net is that, for most sites (and cis.ohio-state.edu
is one of them) you needn't know what machines you are connected to in
order to access them.  Simply the domain name (or, in a worst-case
scenario, the IP number) will get you where you want to go.

I had been communicating with a friend accross the world for quite a
while some years ago by email, talk, irc, etc, when I became curious
to find out exactly what path such transmissions took, so I got the
local net administrator to look.  I was "way downstream," so to speak,
from a main backbone site, and the average message went through seven
other machines.

Here is the important thing, though:  until that day, I didn't know
the names of any of those machines, AND IT DIDN'T MATTER.  The way the
message got to my friend was irrelevant; it got there.

So, again:  why do you need to know?

Trey Harris
--Stranger in a Strange Thread!
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: Josef Moellers <mollers.pad@sni.de>
Subject: Where to ask for info about capital punishment
Summary: Subject sais all
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:32:41 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Keywords: posting, capital punishment

Hi,

I recently had a debate with my mother about capital punishment.
She's pro, I'm against it.
One of my main concerns is that "we" might hit the wrong person (there
are other reasons, but this is the main one).

Now I would like to ask worldwide (USofA would do) for cases where
the innocence of the convicted was detected AFTER (s)he was killed.

Where would I post such a request?

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From: mitchell.pulley@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (MITCHELL CAMORON PULLEY)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: newsreader
Keywords: newsreader
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:52:51 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

How many people use newsreader?
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: Trying to decipher INTERNET address
Reply-To: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:33:45 GMT

dvoelker@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Voelker) writes:

)     I wonder if someone could help me decipher an address.  I'm trying
)to respond to someone who emailed me, but the message bounces.  The
)return path is:
)                 @scapa.cs.ualberta.ca:mark@adec23
)
)You can tell by looking at it that it's not proper form.  I also tried:

This form is correct. If your mail program allows it (seek help from
your system administrator if it doesn't), you should be able to use
the same address to reply. The host adec23.cs.ualberta.ca is not on
Internet but mail to it is handled by scapa.cs.ualberta.ca.

Here is the extract from the man pages of mailaddr(7) on BSD...

     Route-addrs.

     Under some circumstances it may be necessary to route a mes-
     sage through several hosts to get it to the final destina-
     tion.  Normally this routing is done automatically, but
     sometimes it is desirable to route the message manually.
     Addresses which show these relays are termed ``route-
     addrs.'' These use the syntax:

	       <@hosta,@hostb:user@hostc>

     This specifies that the message should be sent to hosta,
     from there to hostb, and finally to hostc.  This path is
     forced even if there is a more efficient path to hostc.

     Route-addrs occur frequently on return addresses, since
     these are generally augmented by the software at each host.
     It is generally possible to ignore all but the
     ``user@domain'' part of the address to determine the actual
     sender.


)                 mark@adec23.scapa.cs.ualberta.ca
)
)but it bounced too.  Can anyone suggest another possibility?

mark@adec23.cs.ualberta.ca looks like a working address. 

)-- 
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)|   Dave Voelker      Stanford University     dvoelker@leland.stanford.edu  |
)=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

For more information on mail, try reading RFC 822 which can be
obtained from lots of place (one of which is ftp.uu.net: /inet/rfc/rfc822.Z).

Sridhar.
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Help finding machines on a system.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:54:30 GMT

harris@morisot.cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes:
: In article <9210101857.AA10738@toto.cis.ohio-state.edu> garlock@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (erin jon garlock) writes:
: >
: >I would like to know if there is a way to find out what machines are connected to any particular system.  
: >example%   cis.ohio-state.edu   has lionfish and skink and flamingo....
: >example%   plymouth.edu		has oz
: >and so on and so forth.
: >
: >where can i find this info for any random system??
: >thanks.

Most Unix systems know what systems they can talk to from 2 places
1) Local host file called /etc/hosts
2) NIS (used to be Yellow Pages) get a list by ypcat hosts

This will not tell you what systems are physically connected (ie on
the same cable) but it will give you a list of "known" systems.
--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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From: rickert@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:19:44 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

In <1992Oct15.183308.20111@abo.fi> MANDTBACKA@finabo.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka Ktf92) writes:

>In <ujeffo.719047820@mcl> ujeffo@mcl.ucsb.edu writes:

>>  Anyways, my question is about chatting to others on other computers.
>>  I have a friend who attends UC San Diego while I attend UC Santa Barbara.
>>  Would it be possible for us to somehow chat to one another?  We know how to
>>  send email through elm, but that is about all.  And we are both novices to
>>  Unix/internet/usenet/whatever net (I do not know the difference) so if 
>>  I am posting the wrong question in that wrong place, I apologize.  

>      Well, I'm actually rather new myself, so maybe I'm not really the
>right person to answer this, but...
>I don't think it's possible for us mere mortals to do anything like that
>- the traffic would bog down the net. EMail should be enough for most
>purposes, and if not, there's always the phone.

Well, on most unix systems there are 'talk' programs that allow you
to do exactly this. Try typing man talk, see if it tells you anything.
Of course, there are some stickies with different versions of talk
protocols, but this is generally well known.
Keith
From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: TENEX vs. BINARY at Simtel20
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:24:11 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I keep hearing that when you ftp stuff from wsmr-simtel20.army.mil you
have to use TENEX instead of BINARY.  I've gotten stuff from there
with BINARY OK (before I heard you were supposed to use TENEX); and the
other day I got a .ZIP file from there using TENEX and it was
corrupted (at least that's what PKUNZIP told me), and I got it again
with BINARY and it was OK.  What gives?

Separate but related question:
I don't think I could understand the technical difference between BINARY and
TENEX if you tried to tell me, but: is it the case that neither one
will screw up a text file?  Because I've gotten text files from
simtel20 that were slightly awry, then got them again using neither
BINARY nor TENEX and they were fine.
-- 
-Ken <miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> {Sometimes you have to look reality straight
 OPINIONS ARE MY OWN            {in the eye, and deny it. - G. Keillor          



Xref: sparky news.newusers.questions:4480 comp.unix.misc:3936
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,comp.unix.misc
Subject: INTERNET Access in (or near) Virginia
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:44:47 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu
Summary: internet, usenet, bitnet


Does anyone out there know of any Public Access sites for Internet or
Usenet in or near Virginia?  I'm in California but have a user who is
going to Virginia soon and needs this information.  Names and phone
numbers of contact would be most useful.

And while I am at it (asking questions).  Is it possible to get a short
(2 to 3 pages or less) explanation of the differences between INTERNET,
USENET and BITNET?

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middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu	| 			Frank Fontana
From: tim.newell@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (TIM H NEWELL)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Geographic Scope of News?
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:52:07 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

I would simply like to know a few demographic facts about news. In what 
parts of the world is news accessible? What type of topics are appropriate 
to talk about on the news network?
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Pkzip
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:55:24 GMT

st1op@rosie.uh.edu (Aguilar, Amado E.) writes:
: I'm looking for a way to pkunzip on a vax system could someone
: point me to the right program and command lines.
: 
Never heard of a vax version of Pkzip. Besides if the file
is "zipped" it is usually a DOS file. I would be sure that 
what you want to unzip is not an executeable before you spend
the time searching for pkzip.

--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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