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From: steven@syacus.acus.oz.au (Steven Malikoff)
Subject: Re: Best War Movie
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:47:08 GMT

scotbri@flower.samsung.com (Scott Brigham, corp) writes:
: From article <1992Aug12.173147.18197@brtph560.bnr.ca>, by Jim Rigney:
: > Best war movie for aerial combat footage:
: > The Blue Max 
: Memphis Belle, which came out a year or so ago, has some breathtaking
: aerial comabt footage.  The rest of the movie however is pretty dopey.
: But it'd be worth renting.  Just fastfoward past the first half of it.

Try watching the *original* Memphis Belle. It's chock-full of combat action,
and it's REAL. No actors or blue screening- the guys getting emergency
treatment after returning from their mission aren't simulating pain and
fake blood. Anyway, it runs for about an hour and it's all colour footage
which is pretty rare for a WW2 flick. I'm pretty sure that most of the footage
was lifted for the Hollywood version. I found it at the video library in
the war documentaries section.

Steve Malikoff.
steven@syacus.acus.oz.au
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From: johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton)
Subject: Re: Eastwood's "Unforgiven"
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:18:49 GMT

Peter Reiher (reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu) wrote:
: 
: By the way, I've heard serious critics suggest that Eastwood might
: be nominated for an Academy Award for his performance in it.  If so,
: it would be his first acting nomination.  (I don't remember - was he
: nominated for directing "Bird"?)
: 
: --
They are probably going for the "True Grit" effect. Hollywood legend who
has made lots of movies but never got an Oscar does one last one so that
the acadamy can give him the gold.


John Eaton
!hp-vcd!johne
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Killer on Cinemax
Summary: Walter Hill is the antichrist
Date: 13 Aug 92 05:36:08 GMT
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

eric@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Eric Tend) writes:
>Any John Woo fans might want to take note that his super-charged, ultra-
>violent gangster epic "The Killer" is on Cinemax this month.

Both dubbed and subtitled versions (I believe the subtitled one will
be shown on August 26th).

Unfortunately, it is cropped.  There are some great shots that cease to
exist when it is viewed on television.  As with any truly great film,
it can only be fully appreciated in the theater.  Oh well.

(I saw it twice last weekend here in Cambridge MA at the Brattle
theater, and got back home in time to catch the second half of the
dubbed version on Cinemax.  Ugh.)

rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su) writes:
>	A unconfirm rumor has it that American remake is in the work
>with Richard Gere in the role of Jeffery, the killer.  

Hardly a rumor any more.  Directed by Walter Hill (48 Hours, Extreme
Prejudice, etc.).  Starring Richard Gere as the killer and Denzel
Washington as the cop.  I don't know who will play Jenny (perhaps
JULIA ROBERTS? <gag>).

Should be hilarious in a pathetic sort of way.

Ed Price (not Tim Worsely), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...)
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:44:03 -0400 
From: Peter Yung Chang <pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: With cuts restored: Dune
Distribution: usa

Last weekend I turned on the Fox channel here and caught Dune.  It
turned out to be what I think is a Director's Edition.  There were MANY
scenes I have not seen before.  Even the intro is completely different. 
Virginia Madsen no longer appears in the intro.  Instead, she is
replaced by a series of paintings, some of them of actual movie footage.
 The longer intro explains the background of the story.  There are also
explanations inserted at various points of the movie.  The voiceovers
are no longer done by Virginia, either.  

I think it's a MUCH better version than the one currently available in
videostores.  Any idea how I can get a hold of it?


					
					peech

Peter Chang
Economics/Industrial Management
Carnegie Mellon University
<pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>




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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: StarTrek IV mistake
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:11:57 GMT

>>>>> On 18 Aug 92 01:53:00 GMT, medanic@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ivan Medanic) said:

medanic> This might have already been discussed but have any of you
medanic> noticed that when Kirk looks at his sons picture on the desk
medanic> that it is in black and white. I find this very funny when
medanic> you consider how far in the future the setting of StarTrek is
medanic> that they did not use a color picture, when you consider that
medanic> black and white picture had probably not been produced in
medanic> over 500 years.

Why would that be a mistake? We have both B&W and color now, right?
Some consider B&W to be more of an art form, that color film.
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: rcheung@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Richard Cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: basic instinct ending **spoiler**
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:32:19 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

In article <1992Aug18.162105.1@economics.adelaide.edu.au> ecbjkokegei@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:
>
>*****************************************************
>*********************SPOILER*************************
>*****************************************************
>
>I cant believe how dumb some people are!
>When MD is reading the end of SS's Book I clearly read something about
>how the cop ran up the stairs to the 3rd floor to find his partner dead.
>Since this actually happens(the building is a 3 story), obviosly SS is either
>the killer or a very very good psycic. Think about it.
>I was disapointed by the fact that they had to blatently reveal this fact
>in the final scene, when to anyone actually watching would have known SS was
>the killer. But even this doesn't appear to have helped. some dumb idiots
>couldn't even accept this. Perhaps for really dumb people the movie shouldn't
>have ended so cryptically (sarcasm), but instead have a banner accross the
>cinema saying 'SHARON STONE WAS THE KILLER'.
>

Gee pick an arrogant pighead economist to abuse everybody's point of view!!

I think everyone is entitled to thier own opinion on who killed what in
Basic Instinct, but NOONE is entitled to flaming some other people's
opinions and claiming theirs is correct...

G E T   A   L I F E . . . . . . (then again... forget it!)

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                      its a new record.. everytime." -The Power.

R i c h a r d   C h e u n g .             A d e l a i d e ,  A u s t r a l i a .
                email:- rcheung@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Unforgivable  ***SPOILERS***
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:28:42 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <1992Aug12.152131.677@calmasd.prime.com> wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:
[deletions]
>But don't post shit about something simply because you couldn't understand it
>all that it had to offer. 

The only one who's posting shit is you. Your intolerance and
arrogance is ugly.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: More Star Wars ?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:50:30 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:59:34 GMT, cjohnson@venice.sedd.trw.com (Clarence Johnson) said:


cjohnson> Has anyone heard any thing about another Star Wars Trilogy?
cjohnson> Saw a post about it in rec.arts.startrek.current.

Just read    rec.arts.sf.starwars
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: wgcho@gorai.kaist.ac.kr (Wongyu Cho)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: QUIZ: What do these movies have in common?
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:50:44 GMT
Organization: KAIST

oyvind@jotun.nta.no (Oyvind Eilertsen) writes:
> In each question, decide what the four movies have in common.
> (Actor, director, composer, producer, whatever)
> 
> (1)
> Rebecca,  The Birds,  Jamaica Inn,  Don't Look Now
All written by "Daphne Du Maurier"
> 
> (2)
> The Shining,  Stand by Me,  Carrie,  Christine
All written by "Stephen King"

> 
> (3)
> Rumble Fish,  Down by Law,  Ironweed,  The Two Jakes
"Tom Waits" appears in all of them

> 
> (4)
> Midnight Express,  Scarface,  Wall Street,  JFK
All written by "Oliver Stone"

> 
> (5) 
> Spartacus,  Lolita,  Barry Lyndon,  Full Metal Jacket
All directed by "Stanley Kubrick"

> 
> (6)
> Seven Samurais,  Rashomon,  Throne of Blood,  1941
"Mifune Toshiro" appears in all of them

> 
> (7)
> Apocalypse Now!,  Rumble Fish,  Rebel Without a Cause,  Easy Rider
"Dennis Hoppe" appears in all of them

> 
> (8)
> Cape Fear,  Taxi Driver,  Psycho,  Citizen Kane
Music by "Bernard Herrmann"

> 
> (9)
> Grease II,  Scarface,  Ladyhawke,  Batman Returns
"Michelle Pfeiffer" appears in all of them

> 
> (10)
> Effi Briest,  The Marriage of Maria Braun,  Lili Marleen,  Circle of Deceit
"Hanna Schygulla" appears in all of them

> 
> Any ideas??
> 
--
    ********                
   *  *******         Wongyu Cho
 **  **               Computer Science Dept.
*** *** *** ***       Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology
From: rosenlof@milton.u.washington.edu (Karen Rosenlof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: CASTING CHOICES: Might-have-been...
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:40:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug17.234055.581
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I remember hearing quite a while ago that Ronald Reagan was a strong
pick - maybe first choice?? - to play Rick in Cassablanca
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From: jmoon@cco.caltech.edu (Jong H. Moon)
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:19:34 GMT

peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:

>Some classic movie babes (while we get cute girls nowadays, very
>few are interesting)

>Grace Kelly: Gorgeous in Rear Window... She's so tasty, you want to
>eat the screen

>Dorothy Malone: The best looking (of many) woman in "The Big Sleep". 
>She plays the girl with glasses who ran the bookstore.

>Ingrid Bergman: In Spellbound and Notorious... Hitchcock shot her
>better than most anyone else

>Claudia <something>: Female lead in Once Upon a Time in The West...yum!

>Barbara Stanwyck: Not a classic beauty by any standards, but very 
>erotic...

What about Merle Oberon (Wuthering Heights, The Divorce of Lady X, and a lot
of other movies) ?
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From: caspar@sci.kun.nl (Caspar Terheggen)
Subject: Re: dr strangelove's name
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:07:29 GMT

Merkw\"urdige(n)liebe.  (If you will forgive my TeX-ism).
I'm not sure about the n.

Caspar.
--
 Caspar Terheggen  +31 80 652801  caspar@sci.kun.nl  U634008@HNYKUN11.bitnet
From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: *GREAT MOVIE ACTORS*
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:58:06 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <1992Aug14.142107.10280@hippo.ru.ac.za> cassi@FRD.AC.ZA writes:
>One of my favourites -->  James Woods
>
>I think he is incredibly sexy.
>
>
>Cassi.

Really?  I've had a few friends mention that they think he's sexy and 
attractive, but he's always struck me as just plain goofy.  What am I
missing?  I know that attraction is totally subjective, but this is
ridiculous!
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct ENDING - actually t2 also...geez
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:18:31 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Aug5.163453.14461@husc3.harvard.edu> fenick1@husc10.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick) writes:
>Um...believe it or not there are those people out here who are waiting
>to see t2 the same way you are waiting to see basic instinct.  I think you
>just proved the point of everyone who said "lay off," and might i personally
>ask you to please practice what you preach.

I hope you're being facetious. There's a huge difference between discussing
a movie which everyone has had the opportunity to see and a new one. Basic
Instinct is just recently available in this area and I've yet to be able to
rent it due to all the copies being out. Anyone who hasn't seen T2 yet 
obviously hasn't wanted to.



-- 
*********************************************
*    bob church                             *
*    bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
*    D-8195 NFS #27                         *
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From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Manon of the Spring (was something really stupid)
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 06:11:27 GMT

>Caused by the BBC (or whomever showed the cartoon) disliking
>the word "Nija" for a kiddies cartoon.  hence the T shirt
>etc.

Oddly enough, they aired a show with a skit about -- believe it or not --
the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turds.  Yes, Turds.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:24751 rec.games.trivia:2876
From: ace@bharh45.bnr.co.uk (A.Elly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.games.trivia
Subject: What movie was this song in?
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:13:00 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.

Hello there!!

I was watching the Sky Movies Plus channel on the
dish here in England.  They were showing short
clips of films due to be shown during the next month
and in the background they played a song with the line
"... the future's so bright, I've gotta wear shades ..."
in it.

Please, does anybody know what this song is actually
called, who it's by and which film, if any, it is
associated with.

Answers by email please.

Thanks in advance,

Adrienne
From: mmaxwell@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Crow (was: Re: Bruce Lee's son?)
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:33:02 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws80.ucsd.edu

Regarding Brandon Lee:

He is signed to play the character of "the Crow" in the film of
the same name, based on the book put out by Tundra Press.  About
as good a choice for the role as anyone, i suppose.  We'll just have
to see how well he does intense/crazy instead of bonehead.

-------------------
Matt Maxwell
mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

"He took personality tests
 and stapled them to his lower lip" -- Stan Ridgway
From: gloria@cs.UAlberta.CA (Gloria Lai-ping Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Actresses in Wayne's World
Date: 22 Aug 92 03:13:19 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada

burchard1@llnl.gov (Letha L. Burchard) writes:

>After recently viewing Wayne's World for the first time, I had a question 
>about the actress who played Wayne's "mental" ex-girlfriend (I can't 
>remember the name of the actress or the character).  She looked very 
>familiar to me, and I was wondering if she is the same woman who plays Eve 
>on Northern Exposure?

I think she was in "Twin Peak", but I can't really remember the name of the 
character she played.  Was it "Donna" or something?  Oh, heck, someone
helps me out here...

Gloria
gloria@cs.ualberta.ca
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From: a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly)
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:12:17 GMT


Nancy M. Schnepp writes:

>At our house we call our remote "the clicker".  Hand
>me "the clicker" is lots quicker than saying, "hand
>me the remote control", don't you think??   Hah!
>

As my wife and her former housemate were avid Woody Allen fans, our
remote has been dubbed 'The Orgasmatron'

-Neal
From: uniel@uts.uni-c.dk (Erik Lawaetz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: "Stirred not shaken" or "Shaken not stirred" ?
Keywords: Bond
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:08:27 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education


I need help to resolve a bet concerning James Bond.

The question is, does  HE  (not other characters in the Bond movies)
want his Martini

	"Stirred not shaken"  (1)

or

	"Shaken not stirred"  (2)
?

I would be grateful for pointers to Bond movies (I am pretty sure that
he uses 1 in "Thunderball"), where I can find this sentence, 'coz I
really don't want to go through them all just to find this.

I would prefer answers via email. Will post a summary.

Cheers

--Erik
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From: st1lv@rosie.uh.edu (McLeod, Stephen)
Subject: Re: Death Becomes Her *SPOILERS*
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:13:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.192019.7945@rock.concert.net>, black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black) writes...
>I finally saw "DBH" last weekend. I enjoyed the black humor in it so I
>found this grade B flick enjoyable.
> 
>Question: Does anyone have any idea how they did the special effects
>on Meryl Streep's head? Those scenes where her head was on backwards
>were great! Likewise for the hole right through Goldie Hawn's stomach!!
> 
>Thanks for any help!
> 
> 
>Rob Black                    black@concert.net                Raleigh, NC
> 
> 
They used the morphing stuff from T2.  Oh.. and those two things are not 
consistent.  When Streep breaks her neck she can't keep her head up.
But when Hawn is missing 5 or 6 vertibra (sp?) she doesn't collapse.  S'okay,
movie is just fluff.  But it is nicer when a movie is at least internally
consistent.
---
Stephen McLeod
The Eternal? Student
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: unforgiven
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:21:20 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <schuck.713934491@sfu.ca>, schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:
> eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:
> >          It's with Ned Logan's character that Eastwood makes his only bow
> >     towards political correctness: not once in the movie is the fact that
> >     Ned is black mentioned.  On one hand, this is a good move on
> >     Hollywood's part, but on the other hand it subtracts slightly from
> >     the realistic feel of the movie - after all, the 19th Century was
> >     as racist a time as ever there was, here in America.
> 
> I agree that racism was rampant in the US , but I think Eastwood may
> have been trying to overturn one of the great myths about the west.
> 
> There were a lot of blacks in the west!
> 
> A significant portion of the cowboys in the post civil war period
> WERE black.

Careful.  There were significant regional differences in attitudes
towards blacks in the U.S.  For example, the 1879 California 
Constitution, after stating that "African-Americans" had all the same
rights as whites, then had a section requiring all Chinese working
for the state on the date of ratification to be fired, and requiring
all contractors to the state to do the same, and prohibiting any
rehiring.

The first "workingmen's associations" (early labor unions) in 
California accepted blacks as equals, because the Chinese were
much more deeply feared and hated by whites.

Even before the Civil War, a black woman in San Francisco 
brought a civil suit against a streetcar company that refused her a
seat -- and won damages!

Remember, also, that Wyoming has a long progressive tradition.
What was the first American state to give women the vote?  Wyoming.

For those who insist on seeing the West as utterly misogynistic,
as well as hostile to prostitutes, the reality is more complicated.
In some gold towns, prostitutes were regarded rather more highly
than they would be today.  Respectable women in much of the West
also held fairly high status, simply because there were so few
of them.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
I can make myself popular on USENET again -- all I have to say is that I'm not 
disturbed by the support for North American Man-Boy Love Association in the 
homosexual community.  Being popular at a child's expense isn't worth it.
From: mjs4@po.CWRU.Edu (M. J. Sanz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: incredible
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:50:56 GMT
Reply-To: mjs4@po.CWRU.Edu (M. J. Sanz)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) says:
>1) Not everyone sees the movie at the same time.  Some haven't seen it
>yet.
>2) Not everyone is satisfied with posts from people with "The Answer".
>3) Not everyone thinks of the issues necessarily on their first viewing.
>Just a reminder.

true - but it's also true of ANY movie - just goes to show how much a
trivia hit T2 is.

-- 
mjs4 on freenet OR
sanz@pix.uh.cwru.edu
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From: schweitz@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Schweitzer (W86))
Subject: Biloxy Blues
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:31:30 GMT


Does anyone know who sings the song that is heard over the end credits of
Biloxy Blues? (Goodbye dear, I'll be back in a year...)
Is it out on CD?

Thanks in advance,

Mischa Schweitzer (schweitz@fwi.uva.nl)
University of Amsterdam, Holland
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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:39:37 GMT

In article <BD.92Aug21130434@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>Is there _any_ reason to think that Woody was the girl's "father figure" 
>and not Andre Previn? 

Yes and no. Woody's friends say that to Soon-Yi, Allen was *not* a father
figure, so this relationship would *not* (as someone posted) be the "moral
equivalent of incest". Now it may be the "legal equivalent of incest" if
Allen had any part in the adoption (which I don't think he did).

Either way, Woody should have known that this relationship would bring about
total domestic and journalistic chaos. Maybe he didn't care(?). But he
probably didn't plan on the sexual abuse charges.
-- 
Matt Garretson                       :-)                          garrem@rpi.edu
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Barton Fink
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:16:35 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <5465@transfer.stratus.com>, jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com 
(Jim Mann) writes:

> In article <1992Aug10.163245.13706@eng.umd.edu> meltdown@eng.umd.edu  
> (Salil Parikh) writes:

>> I just saw Barton Fink.  Great film... except for the last ~10 minutes.
>> What gives?

> I think this question belongs in the FAQ.  :)

Definatly!!!  A whole FAQ on _Barton Fink_!!!

Greg Bole                         "We spend too much time thinking about the
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu       end of the world.  It isn't going to happen.
                                   ...today...I promise it.  Not before lunch."
                                        Alan Rickman in _Close My Eyes_
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