HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith)
Subject: Re: BlackRain & other questions ...HELP!
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:22:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.160249.1813@philabs.philips.com> sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman) writes:
>
>  
> I called the people at Air America to ask about the BlackRain
>setup for the PMI3/VM68. I thought some of you out there might be 
>interested in this info.

Well on Prodigy there is a guy who works for Air America and answers
lots of questions about their stuff.  There is now the "Whipsering
Death" for the AutoMag $139.00.  But this is the Biggy..... There
is a rumor in the mill that Spart Parts and Air America have come
up with a Universal Expansion Chamber that will work on any gun.  Sorry
no prices yet.

> On another note, what is the popular opinion on the best paint for 
>a PMI3/VM68 ?? With a smart parts barrel? I currently use RP-premium
>but I was talking to a ref and he says ZAP is better. Hmmmm

IMHO, They paint that are happy with and is cheap, is the best paint
I love RP-premium, (Camo with glitter)  I shoot an AutoMag and have
never broke a ball in the gun without cuting it in half by removing
the barrel.  I now use MSA as my main paint cause it is RP-Premium under
another label and I can get it for $100/2500.  

> Also , does anyone have any experience with the USI Raider pump gun? 
>How about other pumps in the LOW $200.00 range? I took some of the guys
>I work with out to play this past weekend and now they are considering
>getting their own equipment

Stay Away from USI, they only thing to buy from them is there Butt-Packs
6-80 round loaders, and a 20oz pouch for $53.  If you want a good pump
for $200 get a Traccer.  $150 will get you a maxed out gun, parts are
easy to fine.  Tell buy them from the guy offering the "Team Internet"
sponser.  I have yet to find prices like his.


Bjs

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From: ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Franklin Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: IRONMAN on velocity in cold
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:30:25 GMT
	<1992Nov6.145246.1@woods.ulowell.edu>
Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I dont know but the people to call would be SMART PARTS in Pittsbugh PA.
their ads are in all the magazines.  Bill Gardener there knows more
about those guns than anyone in existence.

        Zander of the IRONMEN

PS: please tell him I refered you you may get better treatment
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: mas@sbctri.tri.sbc.com (Marc A. Sullivan)
Subject: GZ2000?
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:34:55 GMT

Does anyone have any experience with the GZ2000 double action paintgun?
Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: PMI IIIs (Cold Weather)
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:15:42 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/27 - Int'l Public Emerge, San Jose CA

Hello DAVID!

In a message of <Wednesday November 04 1992>, DAVID W. JONES (1:143/8) writes:

 >> In a message of <Monday November 02 1992>, DAVID W. JONES (1:143/8)
 >> writes: A couple guys at the field are having major technical
 >> difficulty with their PMI IIIs. As promised I'm posting this message
 >> and would aprreciate any help that can be offered. I know this has been
 >> discussed before, but I didn't save any posting. I play with a Sniper.
 >> Thanks in advance. What kind of technical difficulties?

 TL>> Maybe if you
 TL>> could elaborate a little. Ciao for Niao Todd Looney -- Todd Looney UUCP:
 TL>> uts.amdahl.com!kennel!27!Todd.Looney INTERNET:

 DWJ>         Their guns are going full auto.

Make sure that the O-rings are lubricated, that alone will cause the full auto effect.  Of course the next thing would be insufficient air flow but I've not heard of that unless the tank was empty.

Ciao for Niao
Todd Looney
Silicon Valley's APPLE DUMPLING GANG Team!


--  
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INTERNET: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG
"The views expressed above are those of Todd Looney only."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: bru@chaucer.cc.bellcore.com (25815-leary)
Subject: Several Thoughts 
Reply-To: bru@chaucer.cc.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore, Piscatawy, NJ
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:51:46 GMT
Keywords: 68Automag Smart Parts

Zander recently posted a message re: the Autococker and how he thought it was
one of thee best semis available today (second only to the 68Automag.  I
was just wondering how he regarded the evaluation of the Autococker printed
in Paintball Consumer Reports, which incidentally thought the whole design
was poor and was merely an attempt to unload a hefty stock of snipers as
semis (they did feel the workmanship of all Budd Orr products was excellent).

On another note I have gotten to play with my new 68Automag, and absolutely
love it.  We played in COOL weather (about 40 degrees) and it performed 
flawlessly.  I purchased it with the short Smart Parts barrel from Smart
Parts, where I had previously purchased a VM-68 last year. I must say that
Bill Gardner at SP is an absolute pleasure to do business with.  They stand
behind whatever they sell and are willing to spend time on the phone with
you solving any problems you might encounter.  As far as using the Automag
in cold weather, Bill is a master in advising you how to set up your 
gun to work in cold weather (remote, vertical, anti-siphon or their special 
setup co-developed with Air America {A.K.A. Black Rain}).  I HIGHLY recommend
using Smart Parts for your major gun purchases.  Their prices are very
competitive also.



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*Bruce								*
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*bru@.cc.bellcore.com    					*
*								*
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From: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: PMI IIIs (Cold Weather)
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:13:30 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/27 - Int'l Public Emerge, San Jose CA

Hello lombardif@woods.ulowell.edu!

In a message of <Friday November 06 1992>, lombardif@woods.ulowell.edu (1:143/8) writes:

 lue> Two of my teammates have VM-68s and both of them fiddle with them
 lue> endlessly to try to get them to work when the temperature is below
 lue> 45'. The main problem is the colder it gets the slower they shoot. Last
 lue> weekend it was about 40' outside one VM was shooting about 200 fps, while
 lue> the other was shooting about 130 fps. Can someone tell me how to fix this
 lue> problem we are having? Thanks, Kevin Lombardi, Assistant Captain,
 lue> Nemesis, Boston, MA -!- DB 1.50/001026 ! Origin: Fido's Kennel - usenet
 lue> newsgroup gateway services (1:143/8) SEEN!BY: 143/8 27 @PATH: 143/8

Couple of things they might do.  One is to switch to a bottom feed with a pre-stager.  You can get a cheap chamber for less than $40, or you could go with the Air America "Black Rain" setup for about $180 which would more than likely be all they need.

Ciao for Niao
Todd Looney
Silicon Valley's APPLE DUMPLING GANG Team!


--  
Todd Looney
UUCP: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!27!Todd.Looney
INTERNET: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG
"The views expressed above are those of Todd Looney only."
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Gloves
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:11:06 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Hello All!

Hamilton Hobbies just got some samples of TASO Assault gloves, and they are
very nice. They have a leather palm, vented (little holes punched in it)
body of nylon/spandex, and a soft plastic back which protects your hand but
isn't hard like some gloves. They are fingerless, and run in sizes up to
11 (XXL). Unlike the JT gloves, a size 11 is actually very large! :-)

They are $11.95 a pair. Netmail me if you want a pair. If you have a group,
order 10 or more pairs and the price is $10.95/pair.

John

--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:07:15 -0500 
From: Alexander Franklin Rose <ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: How do you like your semiauto?

Dont get any they are all too much work.
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thursday, 12 Nov 1992 17:52:06 EST
From: <ACPS7232@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: PMI IIIs (Cold Weather)
 <1992Nov11.195156.8255@philabs.philips.com>

I managed to get out with my VM-68 Black Rain this weekend,  the average
temperature was around 0. When I first had the bottle filled the gun was
firing pretty slow, 220, but after I had it under my arm for about 5
minutes the velocity was easily tuned to 290 fps and remained there for the
rest of the day.  BTW I still got at least 250 shots to a 7 oz tank, (not
bad for the temperatures we get up here eh?).
Martin Little
From: d0mrbooh@dtek.chalmers.se (Robert Huber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Need adress
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:34:45 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

I'm posting this for a friend.

He needs the address of "Advanced Technology Competition. Inc", who makes
the TM-11A paintball gun. 'Ft Wayne, IN' is printed on the gun, but he
needs the full address. Thanks.

Reply by posting or email.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Subject: Re: PMI IIIs (Cold Weather)
Originator: sew@condor
Reply-To: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:51:56 GMT


In article <309.2B0078B4@kennel.FIDONET.ORG>, Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney) writes:
|> Hello DAVID!
|> 
|> In a message of <Wednesday November 04 1992>, DAVID W. JONES (1:143/8) writes:
|> 
|>  >> In a message of <Monday November 02 1992>, DAVID W. JONES (1:143/8)
|>  >> writes: A couple guys at the field are having major technical
|>  >> difficulty with their PMI IIIs. As promised I'm posting this message
|>  >> and would aprreciate any help that can be offered. I know this has been
|>  >> discussed before, but I didn't save any posting. I play with a Sniper.
|>  >> Thanks in advance. What kind of technical difficulties?
|> 
|>  TL>> Maybe if you
|>  TL>> could elaborate a little. Ciao for Niao Todd Looney -- Todd Looney UUCP:
|>  TL>> uts.amdahl.com!kennel!27!Todd.Looney INTERNET:
|> 
|>  DWJ>         Their guns are going full auto.
|> 
|> Make sure that the O-rings are lubricated, that alone will cause the full auto effect.  Of course the next thing would be insufficient air flow but I've not heard of that unless the tank was empty.
|> 
|> Ciao for Niao
|> Todd Looney
|> Silicon Valley's APPLE DUMPLING GANG Team!
|> 
|> 
|> --  
|> Todd Looney
|> UUCP: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!27!Todd.Looney
|> INTERNET: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG
|> "The views expressed above are those of Todd Looney only."


  I've had my VM68 go full auto when it is cold. Soon after it just plain quit!
 I'm sending it to Air America on monday. I'll post an update as soon as
 I try it in the cold.

***********************************************************************
scott  e. wakeman                   *    "LIFE'S SHORT. PLAY HARD"    
                                    *
email   sew@philabs.philips.com     *  my opinions ...   who elses???
***********************************************************************
 Smart Parts VM-68              ______________-_
                               |    ____________|   ....O.....O
                  _________    /  /|(|
                  |        \__/__/
                  |________/
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From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Hamilton Hobbies
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:25:50 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Hello All!

Hamilton Hobbies now has a rough, short price list which can be sent by
email. Rather than post it here and take up bandwidth, email me and I will
send you a copy by email. Its just a beginning, but it will grow.

Check it out before you make a major purchase, Team Internet! :-)

John

--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Subject: BlackRain & other questions ...HELP!
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:02:49 GMT


  
 I called the people at Air America to ask about the BlackRain
setup for the PMI3/VM68. I thought some of you out there might be 
interested in this info.


 The first setup is the "blackrain". This is consists of a front
mounted expansion bottle hooked into a lower-back-bottle. They
also do some metal work on the upper and lower bolt as well as 
some machining on the ball feed system. 
 The next is the "terrorist". This is the same except the rear
bottle comes off the back of the gun instead of the grip.

 The rep said they will also replace any worn parts and clean the 
entire gun. They also do some work on the trigger mechanism too.
When they have finished they engrave a serial number on the gun
and keep a record on it. The work comes with a life-time warranty.

The price for the blackrain is 179.00.

The price for the terrorist is 139.00.

 The rep said they will ship the gun back within 24-36 hours
after they recieve the gun from you. 

 They claim to have used the terrorist version for the past two
years with great success in ANY climate. 

    
 On another note, what is the popular opinion on the best paint for 
a PMI3/VM68 ?? With a smart parts barrel? I currently use RP-premium
but I was talking to a ref and he says ZAP is better. Hmmmm


 Also , does anyone have any experience with the USI Raider pump gun? 
How about other pumps in the LOW $200.00 range? I took some of the guys
I work with out to play this past weekend and now they are considering
getting their own equipment


 I appreciate any info you can contribute.


***********************************************************************
scott  e. wakeman                   *    "LIFE'S SHORT. PLAY HARD"    
                                    *
email   sew@philabs.philips.com     *  my opinions ...   who elses???
***********************************************************************
 Smart Parts VM-68              ______________-_
                               |    ____________|   ....O.....O
                   ________    /  /|(|
                  |        \__/__/
                  |________/
***********************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: bcetnar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Blake Cetnar)
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:58:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.211544.17610@wam.umd.edu> pjaffe@next12csc.wam.umd.edu (P
aul I. Jaffe) writes:
>    Hey, I'm going to be paintballing for the first time next week and
>I was wondering if someone could e-mail me anything dealing with strategy
>or tips for the beginner. Thank you!!!
>
>                   -P
>                   pjaffe@wam.umd.edu


He, He...strategy?  Yeah!  Kill em all!!!
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: barrel hones
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:58:29 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

Some friends of mine thought about all of us chipping in and getting a 
barrel honing kit.  Are barrel hone kits easy and idiot proof to use?
A local store told us that we would need a drill press as honing by hand
causes the hone to bind in the barrel.  In barrel honing which is more
desirable, for accuracy, mirror polish or cross hatching.  Flipping through
the various magazines I see at least two different hone kits; BRM and 
Pneumatic Ordance mirror hone.  Is there a difference between the two?
Will repeated use of the hones overbore the barrels useless?

-- 
" I am from the planet Larson on the far side of the Galaxy" said the
space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: rchen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rodney Chen)
Subject: used guns
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 05:01:16 GMT


I'm wondering if anyone out there has a used pump gun for sale.  My budget
is approx. $200 max with the can/loader/etc.  Somehow I like the Trracer. 
Any other good pump guns out there?  Appreciate replies via e-mail.
Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: follick@hydra.unm.edu (Joshua Follick)
Subject: Re: GZ2000?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 12:29:01 GMT
Organization: Paintball Underground

In article <1992Nov10.173455.21683@sbctri.sbc.com> mas@sbctri.tri.sbc.com (Marc A. Sullivan) writes:
>Does anyone have any experience with the GZ2000 double action paintgun?

    The GZ2000 is the Rapide. The only thing that has been
changed is the plastic exterior. It may be sold in different
option packages as well.

-- 
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Paintball is the sport of the 90s, and Lipservice Crew is the Team!!!
                        Team Lipservice Crew Motto:
                            "They Suck, We Rule"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
From: bcd@fang.att.com (Brendan Dwyer)
Subject: How do you like your semiauto?
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: semiauto paintball
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:21:13 GMT

I'm looking to purchase a semi-automatic paintgun and I have narrowed it
down to the PMI-3, F1 Illustrator and the Tippmann Pro Am.  I was 
wondering what those of you who own one of the aforementioned guns, 
thought about your guns?  My main concerns are:

    1. Reliable operation.
    2. Ease of cleaning and maintenance.
    3. Minimal ball breakage.

If your gun was stolen by pygmies would you replace it with the same
model or pick something different?  If something different, what would
it be?  Email responses would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


Brendan Dwyer

Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: clark@angelo.amd.com (Brad D. Clark)
Subject: Re: Railroad Computer program...
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:34:44 GMT

rl@ferris.cray.com (Randy Lambertus) writes:


>  I was looking back through some old magazines and
>I saw this in the September 1984, Model Railroader
>page 131, lower right corner.

>Does anyone have any knowledge of it, or if the company
>is in existence. If anyone does have an Apple][ copy, I
>would be interested in it. If no one answers, I will
>give the telephone number a call, but if someone in
>the U.S (maybe Pittsburg?) wants to try first I
>would appreciate it. It looks to good to be true but
>then again, it could be just the thing to learn how
>to dispatch? It's probably long gone..............

(Ad for package deleted...)

>         (412) 655-7727

I called this morning, and, yep, they're looooong gone.
Bummer... I actually have an Atari 800 laying around, and that would have
made a great excuse to dust it off  :-(

Brad

Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: jbvb@vax.ftp.com  (James B. VanBokkelen)
Subject: Re: Amtrak's future under a Clinton administration
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Reply-To: jbvb@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:11:23

In article <m9k1_=b@rpi.edu> kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:

     * Upgrading of the old D&H line from Albany to Montreal. Who owns it now?

CP Rail bought the D&H, and they're doing a lot of track and signal work.
This may be the cause of some of the delays.  Note that cross-border service
is less likely to get a priority in government-controlled systems, since
it looks like you're spending the subsidy on people who aren't constituents
Even with private control, the management has to deal with two jurisdictions.

James B. VanBokkelen		2 High St., North Andover, MA  01845
FTP Software Inc.		voice: (508) 685-4000  fax: (508) 794-4488
Organization: mbp Software&Systems GmbH at ESOC, Darmstadt, Germany
Date: Wednesday, 11 Nov 1992 10:02:53 CET
From: Dr. Lutz Massonne <LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Condensing Locos ...


I have a book which is in fact the autobiography of the engineer who
developed the German and South African condensing locos.

I will look up the title at home and (maybe, if I have the time) post
a small review of the book.

Regards, Lutz
Newsgroups: rec.railroad,alt.activism
From: kronberg@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Frank Kronberg)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Spokane Hotels
Keywords: Spokane, Empire Builder
Date: 8 Nov 92 12:05:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Space Science Labs

On a trip next week on the Empire Builder, I have a layover at Spokane.
Does anyone have any suggestions for reasonable/low cost hotel
accomodations there?

Thanks




Frank Kronberg			Center for Extreme Ultraviolet Astrophysics
kronberg@cea.berkeley.edu       University of California
EUVE launched 7 June 1992	2150 Kittredge Street
Surveys 70-912 Angstroms	Berkeley, CA 94720 USA
From: Alan.Moorman@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Alan Moorman)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Fla. RR museum in ruins
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 10:35:02 -0600

Subj: Fla. RR museum in ruins a      Conf: (51) Rec.Railro
JO>  Newsgroups: rec.railroad

JO>   MIAMI (UPI) -- Gold Coast Railroad Museum officials are ready to go
JO>  full steam ahead with rebuilding plans after Hurricane Andrew derailed
JO>  the collection of antique and rare train cars to the tune of $3.5
JO>  million.

JO>   The museum was built and operated on the hard work and dedication of
JO>  volunteers, including a core group of 40 active members. Gate receipts,
JO>  $20 memberships and donations financed the renovation and restoration of
JO>  many of the train cars.

Perhaps you could post a mailing address for the Gold Coast Railroad
Museum, and lots of us could joing with those $20 (or larger)
memberships, to help them raise money for rebuilding the museum.

Alan Moorman

 * OLX 2.2 * From Minnesota -- Land of the Giant Frozen Mosquito!

 * Origin: Dark Knight's Table (1:282/31)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad