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From: cm199@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thomas G. Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Cask Ale; Thomas Hardy
Date: 17 Nov 1992 04:41:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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First of all, I would have given my left arm to go to that fest.
But in response to your question-Thomas Hardy is similar to cask
condition ales in that there is living yeast in the bottle. This
will give the beer a chance to change flavors after so many years
which is why it's so expensive. It can be compared to a fine wine
and I have heard that it can be aged up to 25 years. The correct
term for yeast that's left in the bottle is called "bottle condit-
ioning and is what homebrewer's use to get fizz in their beers.
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From: dbn7350@summa.tamu.edu (NASH, DAVID BENNETT III)
Subject: Re: <None>
Summary: Here's how it is in Minnesota...
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Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:41:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.203929.1698@msus1.msus.edu>, mbc472@msus1.msus.edu writes...
>All I know is that if it weren't for Old Milwaukee (Roadkillwaukee)
>not one individual in Minnesota could possibly have graduated from any 
>institution of higher learning in the last 8-10 years.
> 

THE BEAST!!!  Man, that's swill for you.
Although...since I'm having a party this weekend I'm buying
a whole keg. :} No joke.
Too poor to buy an $80+ keg for Shiner Bock, and too many people
say "Ugh, how can you stand that dark stuff?"
So, as long as I am buying swill, I might as well go cheap.
After 4-5 it doesn't matter anyway.

dbn3.

-- one of the best star pilots in the galaxy.\dbn7350@zeus.tamu.edu
-- an enemy of the Ronald Reagan Republicans.\Texas A&M Biochemistry Undergrad.
-- let's get this show on the road. . .\I pay TAMU - I do not speak for them.
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From: peterbi@microsoft.com (Peter Biddle)
Subject: Re: GOOD BEER
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:45:13 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: global

A Few Good Beers

Pac NW
------
Thomas Kemper Lager
Grants Scottish Ale
Grants Polar Weise (in the summer)
Pyramid Wheaten (in the summer)
Unicorn Ale (Only available at The Unicorn on University Way in Seattle)
Red Hook ESB


German
------
Paulaner Munchen #1 (quite possibly the best darn *bottled* beer in the world)

Also:

Sheafs (used to be Tooths Sheaf) Stout (Australian?)
Tsing Tao (pron. Ching Dow--Chinese)
Shiner Bock (TX)

God, I miss good beer.

A refugee in TX,
Peter
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From: olson@husc9.Harvard.EDU (Charles Olson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Belhaven
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:54:58 GMT
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.

In article <Nov.18.10.10.01.1992.28854@clam.rutgers.edu>, selby@clam.rutgers.edu (Alan Selby) writes:

|> Is there any interest out there in the real world in Belhaven Scottish
|> Ale?  I have found this to be one of the best ales around, albeit
|> difficult to find and quite expensive in South Jersey (around
|> $35/case).  Any comments from the wide world of ale conneseurs?

"Real World" as opposed to New Jersey, I assume...

Belhaven is yummy stuff... right up there with MacAndrews (Caledonian Export
something-or-other outside the US) among my favorite Scottish beers.  Less
heavy than McEwan's, which is also good but is too chewy for my taste.

My only beef is that the enamelled bottle makes it slightly less useful for
recycling for home-brewing.  (my favorite bottles for this purpose are Guinness
pints and any bottles from Elbridge Pope (as in Thomas Hardy's and Royal Oak 
Pale Ale))

-- 
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you 
do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"
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From: zedaker@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller)
Subject: "RE:colorado civil rights-listen up!", etc.  etc....
Keywords: AAAAAHHHHGGGG!!!!!!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:19:02 GMT

All of this started when some idiot posted something that does not belong  
on alt.beer!!!!

AAAAAHHHGGGGG!!!!   GO AWAY  GO AWAY   !!!!!
From: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu (Roger Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Celis
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:39:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH.
Reply-To: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu

Finally...I've found a willing mule for some Celis!

A friend is driving to Houston over Christmas and is willing to
return with a case of Celis products. So, I need some info from Texas 
alt.beer readers!

1) What Celis products are available in bottles?

2) Are they available in Houston? My friend is willing to stop in the 
Dallas area but Houston would be easier.

Thanks for any info!

Cheers,
Roger
-- 

Roger Brown, x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
Extension Communications, Iowa State University, Ames Iowa. 
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From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Subject: special export
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:18:13 GMT

Seeing how mega-brews like Bud and Coors are getting trashed (with good 
cause in my opinion), I would like to know what anyone thinks about Special 
Export and Old Style, G. Heilemann's big brews.  Special Export has always 
been one of my favorite mass-produced beers, reminding me of some of the 
middle quality but still good European beers.  Old Style is a cheap lager, 
but has a flavor to it that seems even a bit fruity.  I actually think these 
two beers are pretty good by American standards, and even would choose 
Special Export over Sam Adams, which I think is overrated.  BUT, everyone 
here seems to love Sam Adams, and I'm sure I'm probably in the minority.  
Still, keeping the recent discussions of different mass-beers, I wouldn't 
mind hearing other opinions.
     -scott, u. of minnesota
From: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bud
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:06:12 GMT
Reply-To: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Organization: NavSurfWarCen, CarderockDiv (ex-"Taylor Model Basin")

In alt.beer, jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>
>beer.  Where better to start somone on the road to better beer drinking
>than a Pilsner like Sam Adams?  I'll admit there are good, interesting
>beers out there that have to be tried.  However, if you were encouraging
>someone who loves Bud Dry to expand her horizons, a natural first step
>is Sam Adams.   Also where I come from, Anchor Steam is about $7.50 a
>six versus about $5.79 for Sam Adams.  For someone trying to improve
>on the Bud products, sticker shock can be a factor.

    Is Sam Adams considered a Pilsner?  I don't think so.  Most mega
brews like Bud, Miller, etc. are "Pilsner style" beers.  I'd suggest
a less dramatic first step for someone accustomed to Bud Dry.  Pilsner
Urquell is an idea.  Baderbrau (from near Detroit) is another.  Both
are high quality flavorful pilsners.  Sam Adams lager is heavier and
stronger tasting than a lot of "ales" available, like most from Canada.
It's good brew, but it might be too big a leap for someone raised on
Bud Dry.
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From: M.Enderby@daresbury.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Cask Ale; Thomas Hardy
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:01:07 GMT

As far as I know (by reading Michael Jackson's column in CAMRA's
What's Brewing), cask beer is available in the US. Apparently many
pub-breweries serve their ale without extraeneous gas as per 
the "real ale" definition. Sorry, I don't have the names of any to
hand at the moment.
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: 8905991@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: EVILS
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:15:39 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

Beer drinkers must repent.  Alcohol drunk for pleasure is sinfull.  
Not only does it give man the mind of a cock, but it makes him
impotent-both spiritually and physically.

		This is from Jason.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Subject: Re: Cask Ale; Thomas Hardy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:04:02 GMT

plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.134320.11701@viewlogic.com> robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert) writes:
>>|>    Seriously, though, a lager is any ol' bottom-fermeted beer.  US
>>|> megabreweries aside, a pilsner is a super-premium lager which is
>>|> light (in color) and is characterized by a flowery hop aroma
>>|> and a dry finish (according to Jackson).
>...
>>But Michael Jackson calls Sam Adams a Pilsner (in 'The New World
>>Guide to Beer'), and I think Sam Adams meets all the criteria you list above,

>   He doesn't classify it as a pilsner in the Pocket Guide, but his
>description does make it sound like a classic pilsner, so I'll defer
>to Michael Jackson's expertise.  I'll also try to bludgeon my taste-
>buds into characterizing the aftertaste of Samuel Adams Lager as
>"dry," and I'll squint until I see the color as "light." :-)

	I'm not one to question the authority given the honorable Mr.
Jackson by this group either, BUT....  Wouldn't a good criterion for a
pilsner be a heavy dose of Saaz hops?  Apart from Sam Adam's not really
having a dry finish or a light color, it doesn't have much (if any) Saaz
flavor.

	Just my two cents..
		-m.

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Subject: Re: special export
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:17:51 GMT

In article <serb.178@polisci.umn.edu> serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb) writes:
>middle quality but still good European beers.  Old Style is a cheap lager, 
>but has a flavor to it that seems even a bit fruity.  I actually think these 
>two beers are pretty good by American standards, and even would choose 

Are you joking???  Old Style?  Trying not to throw up while hearing Old
Style ads on Chicago radio takes a bit of doing - 'It's our great beer" ugh.
I locve the fact that they call it our beer despite the fact that it's made
in Wisconsin.  I am trying to work out what idiot would actually want to
use good luggage space to transport the piss to New York or LA.


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From: JR8551A@auvm.american.edu (Jossie I. Roman)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: best beer
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:11:04 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

Hi! I come from Puerto Rico and the best beer is Medalla.  But a lot of people
drink Medalla, Budweiser, and Coors Light.  So, if you guys have any chance to
go to the Shining Star of the Caribbean, drink Pina Colada and Medalla.
From: u2119595@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: AUSSIE BEERS
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:15:59 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

any opinions on Australian beers greatly vAlued.are they available?which ones
have you tried?
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: fct@swlvx2.msd.ray.com (FRED THOMPSON)
Subject: Looking for a beer called Sweet China (in New England area)
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:24:31 GMT

A friend of mine had tried a beer a few years ago called "Sweet China" and
really liked the taste. He can't find it around here anymore (New England) and
is wondering if anyone has heard of this beer, if it's still around, where
to get it, etc. Thanks for any help.
-- 
Fred Thompson,   ...!ulowell!swlvx2!fct  or  fct@swl.msd.ray.com
Raytheon Co,     Missile Systems Division, Tewksbury, Mass. 01876
From: birmingh@fnalf.fnal.gov (Phillip J. Birmingham)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: EVILS
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:53:10 GMT
Organization: Blackriver Recorporations, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov

In article <19961.2b0adcab@ul.ie>, 8905991@ul.ie writes:
> Beer drinkers must repent.  Alcohol drunk for pleasure is sinfull.  
> Not only does it give man the mind of a cock, but it makes him
> impotent-both spiritually and physically.
> 
> 		This is from Jason.

         You're right. I feel like such a fool!

         From now on I will drink alcohol for displeasure (which means I'll
    be downing a lot of Bud Light, I guess.)

-- 
 Phillip J. Birmingham   birmingh@fnal.fnal.gov  
 I don't speak for Fermilab, although my mouth is probably big enough...
From: S.S.B.Glover@bradford.ac.uk (SSB GLOVER)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Buddywiser
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:32:33 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92909131@ccw301
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

92F07486 (math1rb@rosie.uh.edu) wrote:
: I don't know if this is true but someone once told me that Bud is one of the
: sweetest beers (at least of the megabrews). If this true, then that may be
: why I prefer Bud, I like sweet stuff. Now I like Guiness and a few ales,
: but not every place has these on tap. So sometimes we have to sacrifice...
:   My wife likes Bud Dry...probably because it doesn't "taste" like beer..

Neither does Budweiser!!

Unless, of course, you mean Budvar... 

(Worked in a bar once and took delight in throwing PROPER Bud (ie budvar) at
Yank tourists who asked for Budweiser -- especially when they then complained
about being given (in one case) "limey ale shit" -- I'd always thought that
lime in beer was a foreign affectation to take away nasty lack of taste:
Lemon in Weizen is, of course DIFFERENT)

------------
Steve Glover
(member, CamRA, SPBW. Involved in production of Non-Drivers Guide to Drinking
in West Yorkshire: title suggestions gladly accepted)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Subject: Re: Please post 53 reasons why beer is better than womem
Keywords: 53 reasons
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:40:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.144729.9041@epas.toronto.edu> sfysh@epas.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Moskal Fysh) writes:

>In article <1992Nov14.203454.11174@ncsu.edu> sswoo@eos.ncsu.edu (SANG SIK WOO) writes:
>>If there is anybody who has the listing of 53 reasons why
>>beer is better than women, please post it to this news group.
>>
>>Many of us are interested to read them

>Please *don't*.  Many readers/posters in this newsgroup are women.  We
>drink and brew beer too.  Keep it in rec.humor please.

I agree.  If someone is creative enough, I'd have nothing against a version 
that is non-sexist.  Beer is to high class a beverage to be associated with 
trashy sexist garbage.
       - scott, u of minnesota
From: cm199@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thomas G. Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Newcastle's
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:12:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Dan, Where did you get Thomas Hardy at? I have been looking for
this for some time. I live in the Cleveland Ohio area and have
had no luck finding it at the best stores.
From: jason@nast.mcl.ucsb.edu (Jason Sarner)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Coors!!!???
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:37:52 GMT

In article <osminer.722116230@spot.Colorado.EDU> osminer@spot.Colorado.EDU  
(OSMINER MATTHEW COREY) writes:
> Some people have no taste.  Don't believe a word of what Coors  
advertises.
> Besides the fact that they make a weak beer with absolutely no flavor
> they hardly use "PURE ROCKY MOUNTAIN SPRING WATER!"  I live 20 miles
> from Coors in Boulder and they use Idaho Springs' sewage water that
> runs downstream to them in Golden.  I mean really folks! Try a homebrew
> or at least go out and buy soe Pete's Wicked Ale!
> 
> another profound opinion!
From: loewenst@cs.rutgers.edu (David Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: The Best Beer
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:08:20 GMT
	blaze.rutgers.edu> <1992Nov17.095545.8763@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Reply-To: loewenst@paul.rutgers.edu
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Whippany, NJ
In-reply-to: conrad@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of 17 Nov 92 09:55:45 GMT

... On 17 Nov 92 09:55:45 GMT, conrad@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Conrad Yoder) said:

} In article <LOEWENST.92Nov16232227@blaze.rutgers.edu> loewenst@cs.rutgers.edu (-
}   David Loewenstern) writes:
}>Has anyone else tried Eger Urbier, from Czechoslovakia


} Are you sure that's Czech?  Eger is a city in Hungary, still not too near the
} Hungar-Czech border.  Might that fruity taste be grapes?  Egri Bikaver is my
} absolute favorite wine - nothing can lay a finger on it.

I'm pretty sure it's Czech.  I'm certain it's beer.  The fruit flavor
is more like figs than grapes, anyway.

These opinions are shareware.  If you like the product,
please send your $0.02 to
               David Loewenstern
<loewenst@paul.rutgers.edu>||<d.loewenstern@att.com>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jbunn@seanews.akita.com (John E Bunn)
Subject: RE: EVILS
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News + Mail
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:37:46 GMT


Beer evil?  OK, Ill give it up if YOU say so.

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From: dbent@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Darrell A Bent)
Subject: Question about Guiness
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:38:47 GMT


     I don't know much about Guiness beer and I have a question.  I was at
Zeno's at Penn State- who should, by the way, kick the crap out of Ohio State
now that their football team will be in the Big 10- and they had Guiness on
tap.  It was apparently brewed using nitrogen instead of carbon dioxide; it was
also pretty unpleasant to drink.  It was a while ago, but looking back I recall
that it tasted something like clay.  It also seemed to lurk in my stomach for a
while afterward.  We were both kind of ruined for the night.  I was just 
wondering whether the Guiness you find in a bottle is the same as that gotten 
on tap.  Is it also brewed using nitrogen?  By the way, I'm naked right now.
From: hsu@pix.com (Dagwood Splits the Atom)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam
Keywords: Anchor Steam, first-timer
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:39:06 GMT
Organization: Pix -- The company with no adult supervision.

In article <1992Nov24.031620.13104@cis.ohio-state.edu> imes@parrot.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes) writes:
>Just went out tonight and had my first Anchor Steam.  Must say that I was
>pleasantly surprised.  I had no previous knowledge of this beer, and did not
>know what to expect.
>
>It tastes like an ale but it's not quite bitter enough.  Is it some sort of 
>cross between an ale and a lager?

Anchor makes another believer!

You've almost hit the answer on the head.  Steam beer is a lager fermented
at ale temperatures, an invention of German immigrants who found themselves
in warm and sunny California with only cold-climate yeast.  To pull off this
bit of subterfuge, unusually shallow fermenting ships (a ship is basically
an open vat, for the uninitiated) are used, but the warm fermentation
temperatures promote the production of some of the esters typically
associated with ales.

>One last question.  What temperature should I keep this at?

It's pretty well filtered, so store it as cold as you like.  Just don't
serve it that way.

-dave

-- 
Dave Hsu                           <hsu@pix.com> -or- <hsu@eng.umd.edu>
Caffeine and Salsa Czar	          "Technology is like fish -- the longer they
Pix Technologies Corporation       stay on the shelf, the less desirable they
Have nerds, will telnet.           become."    - Andy Heller
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: R0TR <R0TR@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Coors (Re: Bud)
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:15:37 GMT

In article <27jqss=@lynx.unm.edu> rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires) writes:
>>hg2001@mailserver.bgsu.edu (Heather) writes:
>>
>>>Doesn't anyone like Bud anymore??  My personal fave is Bud Dry.
>>>
>
> well i don't like bud but I do like coors
> it is very smooth unbitter does not intrude on
> the food we're talking carbohydrate rich food
> here old reheated pizza and the like this brings
> up another question what food belongs with what
> beer vice versa besides I knew a maloof
> family member in high school really nice guy
> good tennis player committed suicide later on
> a real and true tragedy.

>
>>>Heather
>
>Roger Squires
>rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu

>>>You guys must be Americans.  Coors, Bud Dry what's the difference?
 It's all water anyway.  Come to Canada and drink Schooner.

>.>>>>Mark, UNB
>.

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From: briard@dxcern.cern.ch (\)
Subject: Re: Belgian Beers $$$
Reply-To: briard@dxcern.cern.ch (\)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:57:57 GMT


In article <102857@bu.edu>, jdisegi@bu.edu (Jonathan Disegi) writes:

|> I'm just a bit curious.  While they are WELL WORTH the price, why are Belgian
|> Lambics so expensive in the United States?  I never pay below $5.50 for a 
|> single in Boston.  When I was in Belgium, I didn't find them particulary
|> expensive.  So, why are they so expensive?  

I think that it is not easy at all for Belgian Brewers to export their products
to the States because American laws are quite tough with perishable products.
So, exports costs quite a lot and the Belgian brewers want, at least, their
money back... I talked once with a Brewery manager who said to me that he
wouldn't try to export his beers (Saison Regal, Gauloise, St Benoit,...) which
are quite famous in Belgium (you can find them in all supermarkets)to USA just
because he didn't want to bother with any problems with American Customs Laws...

Another point is that the Lambics breweries are now owned by the most important
Belgian brewery called Interbrew. I suppose they want to get the most money from
those beers to pay back part of the financial operation.

I think you just have one solution: come to Belgium!


Francois Briard
Belgian Technical Student
at CERN - European Lab for Particle Physics, Geneva
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Subject: Re: EVILS
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:19:46 GMT

> 8905991@ul.ie writes:
>
> Beer drinkers must repent.  Alcohol drunk for pleasure is sinfull.

What is your definition of "sin"? If it has something to do with
Christianity, then why did Jesus change water to wine?

--
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"We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're
all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is
nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
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