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From: bware@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Bob Ware)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: OK MX  enabling in sendmail.cf
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:56:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

umarsa00@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (PROF. A.S. UMAR, (615)322-2459) writes:
: I am using an RS/6000 with AIX 3.2.2:
: 
: Sometime ago I had to sent mail to some addresses with .com extension.
: These names were not resolved and somebody told me that I had to uncomment
: the line with OK MX in the sendmail.cf file. I did this and it seemed to
...
Try: OK ALL

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Computing and Networking, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, Co 80401, USA
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Skipped/Deferred in mailq
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:11:27 GMT

Various entries displayed by mailq on one of our systems contained the
following:

                          Deferred: Host paradise is down
                           Skipped: Host paradise is down

What is the difference between Deferred and Skipped?

Will all of the mail indicated by these entries be delivered when host paradise  
comes back up?

Thanks.

Monty

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From: swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: UUCP addresses forwarded to mailserver
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:25:40 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.
Originator: swlodin@kocrsw15


In article <1992Oct6.204749.29364@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>, swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin) writes:
> 
> On my HPs (HP 9000s710 w/ HP-UX 8.07) with almost stock sendmail
> I'm trying to send mail using the address "a@b.UUCP".  It forwards 
> to the mailserver kocrsv01 with the address "a@b.UUX".
> 
> 
> Sendmail on the mailserver kocrsv01 (Sun 4/490IDA Sendmail 1.4.4.1) doesn't
> recognize the .UUX extension and forwards it to the MX gateway
> rcvax.gmr.com.
> 
> Is this normal?  Should I modify the HP config to send out using
> the .UUCP extension instead or should I modify IDA to accept both
> .UUCP and .UUX?
> 
> 
> Thanks for the help.  Output from sendmail -bt below...
> 

Well, the line in the HP sendmail config file that is the culprit is:

# pass unresolved UUCP addresses to the UUCP relay (via SMTP)
R$+<@$+.UUX>            $#tcp$@$W$:$1<@$2.UUX>  to UUCP relay via SMTP


I just changed it to pass the address with .UUCP instead of .UUX

# pass unresolved UUCP addresses to the UUCP relay (via SMTP)
R$+<@$+.UUX>            $#tcp$@$W$:$1<@$2.UUCP> to UUCP relay via SMTP


In my case, I think it was easier to modify all my HP configs since
they are all identical on all my clients.  Basically, they just
forward to the mailserver anyway.

Thanks for the direction!

Steve
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        Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle.
From: mock@i41s18.ira.uka.de (Markus Mock)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Bitnet or Internet, where does it go to?
Date: 10 Oct 1992 16:51:48 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i41s18.ira.uka.de
Keywords: Bitnet, Internet, MX records, Domain Names

Hi there,

how does sendmail know what to do when a host is both on the Internet and Bitnet?
Suppose the following scenario:
Host h has a domain name address h.domain with internet adress A. However, it does not
want to accept Internet mail directly but only through Bitnet, i.e. a Internet host that
wants to send mail to  x should contact a Internet-Bitnet gateway rather than trying to
deliver the mail directly. There is no MX record listed for host X which could tell sendmail
where to go to. How does it know then?
(I've seen this  happening, i.e. mail was delivered to a Bitnet gateway though the destination
host had an Internet address too and no MX record listed, how did sendmail figure that out?)
Thanks for your help!

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Otmar Lendl)
Subject: Re: Multi-user mailbox access
Summary: Mailing to files: How ?
Organization: University of Salzburg, Austria
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:41:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.121812.10857@progress.com> tucker@bedford.progress.COM writes:
>This is a repost with a more understandable subject! 
>
>I am trying to use aliases to route mail a file so multiple users can 
>access the file as a common mailbox. I can't get sendmail to create the 
>mailbox even in 777 directories for non-root users sending to the alias.
>Once the mailbox is there, everything appears to be accessible/modifiable
>to non-root users. And even if the directory where the mailbox is 775 which
>is preferred and the mailbox exists, it allows any user to delete the mailbox
>which 775 should not allow as the other users are not in the group that owns
>the directory. Can someone shed some light on how this can be done and what
>sendmail is doing to dis-allow me creating the mailbox when I mail to the
>alias creating it, but allows me (via elm) to delete it when I'm reading it. 
>
>Thanks again!
I got similar problems.
Here at Salyzburg univ. the group which is managing the workstations
communicate via mail by the means of an alias which includes the 
whole group. What we want to do is to create a log of all messages
sent through this alias. My first idea was to add a file to the alias
und get the messages appended to this file, too.
Well, we ran in the same difficulties as tucker@bedford, namely the
permissions of the file. I looked in the Sendmail Operation Guide, but
found no clues whatsoever. Browsing through sendmail.cf doesn't reveal
anything. (I still don't know which mailer is used when writing mail
to files. Is it the local mailer ? A builtin ? ???? )
Where IS the documentation on this issue ? Don't say, I have to check
the source ! (btw, I'm running IDA on sunos4.1.4)

I tried it with the 'prog' mailer and setuid shell-scripts, but simply
piping the stdin to the mailfile doesn't create a valid mbox-format
file (btw: where is the mbox-format defined ? ). Maybe with a bit
playing around that should work, but I consider this a bad kludge.

The way to go seems to be deliver or procmail. 
[I haven't used one of those yet, but the idea seems reasonable to me.]

Any comments ?


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: cslee@pds.nchu.edu.tw (Lee Chee Siong)
Subject: How to send mail with 8 bits character?
Keywords: 8 bits mail
Organization: NCHU Computer Center
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:25:56 GMT

Hi,
     Could anyone tell me how to do with sendmail that it can
send "8 bits mail" to others and receive "8 bits mail" from other
system?
     I know I can uuencode the message before send and uudecode after
receive but what I need is the directly method by changing configuration
in sendmail.
     I try to send a "8 bits mail" to another ultrix machine with
my ultrix machine.
     Thanks for your kindly help.



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<>   National Chung Hsing University,		<>	  nothing else, <>
<>   Taichung, Taiwan, Republic of China.	<>  at least give a	<>
<>   Internet Address: cslee@pds.nchu.edu.tw	<>	  cheerful face <>
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From: unisli@uts.uni-c.dk (Steen Linden)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Relative sender name problem
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:15:46 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

My problem relates to a generic sun sendmail.main.cf configuration file
on a SPARCstation.

The $g macro used to identify the sender relative to recipient evaluates to
sender@domain but what I want is sender@machine.domain. I don't want the 
machine name stripped off. Also I wouldn't like to replace the predefined
$g macro with e.g. $u.$w since I don't want fully qualified sender names
for mail sent locally on the machine.

The official hostname is set to the fully qualified hostname:
Dj$w.$m 
This evaluates correctly to machine.domain.

The $m macro is set by getdomainname(). domainname is ".domain" so that
the first part is not stripped off in the address.

The following hack seems to work but I would like a prettier solution:
Define the hostname to be the domain:
Dj$m
Define the domain to be the fully qualified hostname:
Dmmachine.domain

Any help appreciated,

Steen Linden
UNI-C
Denmark
From: dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: setting mailer userid
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:48:19 GMT
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.

In <1992Oct12.170833.1445@blilly.UUCP> bruce@blilly.UUCP (Bruce Lilly)
writes:

>	Mxyz_mailer, P=/bin/su, F=DFMSrmnus, 
>		R=25/10, S=10, A=su joe -c "/home/joe/xyz_mailer $u"

>Why reinvent /bin/su using perl?

On my system, /bin/su invokes the user's shell.  This not only makes
things slower, but it also allows shell globbing.  Consider mail
arriving for an address like

     "`cd; rm -rf *`"@xyz.COM
-- 
Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@cirrus.com>
also: dhesi@rahul.net
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: setting mailer userid
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:27:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: mp.1992Oct7.172748.6661
Organization: Northern Illinois University

In article <rhoward.718474180@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:
>rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct7.005204.5663@cirrus.com> dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi) writes:
>>>When using IDA sendmail, is there any way of forcing a mailer to be
>>>executed under a specific userid (rather then daemon or root)?  So far

>>You may be able to do this with Chip Salzenberg's deliver.  That is, use

>I don't think that is what he was asking.  Read it again.

I DO think it was what he was asking.  However I agree I was not explicit
about how to do this with deliver.  However Rahul knows my email address
if he needs further explanation.

>                                           Read it again.  A related
>question:

>If I start sendmail as superuser by doing a 'su' after first logging
>on as myself, sendmail somehow figures out that I was behind it and
>tends to put my RealName in ()'s on all From: lines.

Before restarting sendmail, clean out your environment.  Be particularly
careful of NAME, LOGNAME.  The best trick is to write a script which
pipes ps through grep to find the PID of the running sendmail, then
kills it and restarts it.  But before you do so, unset all environment
variables.  If your 'sh' does not support unset, use a 'csh' script,
and to unsetenv.  You should be able to pipe the output of 'printenv'
through a sed script to get a list of all values defined in the
environment, and just eliminate them all.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Otmar Lendl)
Subject: Re: Skipped/Deferred in mailq
Organization: University of Salzburg, Austria
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:59:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.061127.12066@proponent.com> Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com> writes:
>Various entries displayed by mailq on one of our systems contained the
>following:
>
>                          Deferred: Host paradise is down
>                           Skipped: Host paradise is down
>
>What is the difference between Deferred and Skipped?
I'm no sendmail guru, this is how I interpret this message:
Deferred means: I tried, but did not succeed this time. I'll try
	again when I run the queue next time.
Skipped means: I already know that host paradise is down at the moment,
	so why bother trying.
>
>Will all of the mail indicated by these entries be delivered when 
>host paradise comes back up?

Yes.
>
>Thanks.
>
You're welcome.

Otmar 
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Otmar Lendl)
Subject: Direct delivery, but failed mail to the hub
Organization: University of Salzburg, Austria
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:53:24 GMT

I configured our client workstations to deliver outbound mail
directly if possible. 
We had some serious network problems in the last weeks 
(the austrian backbone is currently upgraded....), so not all
attempts to deliver mail succeeded at the first try.
All those deferred messages are therefore in the mqueue of the 
_clients_, but I'd rather preferred them to be at the mailserver.
(Reasons: Simpler to check if there are problems.
	  Clients can be turned off without affecting mail.
		(Incoming mail is always routed to the mailserver.)
	  style :-)
	  )

Is there any way to archieve the following within IDA-Sendmail:
	Direct delivery if possible. (SMTP)
	If that fails: instead of putting the message in the queue,
	forward it to the mailserver.

Our should I route mail over the mailserver in all cases ?

Comments ?

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|Akademiestr. 15  A-5020 Salzburg   | University (Austria / Europe)    |
| Put the scrabble away Arthur, it won't save the human race !  Ford P.|
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: doug@jhawk.b30.ingr.com (Doug Bradley)
Subject: Wildcard MX records-- yea or nay?
Reply-To: doug@jhawk.b30.ingr.com.
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:00:41 GMT

  Looking for a bit of netwisdom on the use of wildcard MX records specifically
and name resolution and sendmail in general.

  First some background. We have a large campus with many domains delegated
under our parent. The children nameservers each service some 500 hosts each 
with most running sendmail but with a few running only uucp. We've configured 
our DNS databases with hosts running sendmail having MX records pointing to 
themselves and with wildcard MX's pointing to the relayhosts to pick up the
stragglers (uucp hosts).

  This is a problem with the wildcard matching bogus hosts. I've heard little
good about wildcard MX's other than possibly saving some DNS configuration for
the UUCP-only hosts.

  It seems that wildcard MXing is not such a good thing?

  Also, in the past we've had two versions of sendmail: one with BIND support and
one without. I'm in the process of folding these into one which will use BIND if
the host is configured as a DNS client and fall back to a local /etc/hosts if 
needbe or if not a DNS client.  Any advice or caveats on this would be welcomed.

  Finally, if you've read this far, anyone have any utilities for an admin to 
change the DNS database, besides a general text editor?  How do you manipulate
the database?

Many TIA,

doug
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: kevinc@casey.uucp (Kevin C. Castner)
Subject: parsing subdomains in sendmail
Keywords: sendmail uucp sender field subdomain
Organization: UPS Research & Development
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:02:14 GMT

Hi:
	I'm a brand new sendmail user, and I have to configure a machine to
route the mail properly around my network.

	Here's the situation.  A machine "casey" polls uunet.uu.net for all
mail to *.UPS.COM.  I suppose this makes us the domain administrator.

	My local subdomain is "nrd.UPS.COM" and all mail to that and 
user@UPS.COM is queued for uucp tranfer to "aspen".

Casey is also uucp connected to another subdomain machine whose subdomain
name is "corp.UPS.COM".  I am responsible to separate and foward all mail
to these subdomains.  Any mail that is not destined for UPS.COM needs to
be queued for uucp transer to uunet.

	I would like to have the sender fields read 
"From: user@subdomain.UPS.COM" when they leave casey for uunet whether they
come from corp, and nrd subdomains.

	A further complication is that casey is also uucp connected to a 
machine "yonkers" which is a member of the domain jmdel.COM.  I would like
any mail for user@subdomain.jmdel.COM to be queued for the machine yonkers
instead of uunet.  The sender field should be the same regardless.


	I did read the Sun Administrators Manual, and had some success, but
some mail is getting lost.  What would help is a sendmail.cf file for casey,
and aspen.  From there I think I could get the rest of the subdomains 
working (Each of the other subdomains gets queued to a different uucp host).

	I any kind soul could help me, I'd be grateful.

			Thanks

			Kevin "I want do be a sendmail.guru" Castner
			Unix System Administrator
			United Parcel Service, Research & Development
			Danbury, Ct.   (203) 731-5716
			kevinc@UPS.COM

P.S.
	Please don't flame if this is a FAQ, I did look for one.
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      Kevin C. Castner                           kevinc@ups.com
      Unix Administrator                         United Parcel Service
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: I need a copy of sendmail, version 5.65 or later (FTP from where?)
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:04:28 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: billd@cheetah

Could someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,  --Bill
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From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: setting mailer userid
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:09:40 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.005204.5663@cirrus.com> dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi) writes:
>>When using IDA sendmail, is there any way of forcing a mailer to be
>>executed under a specific userid (rather then daemon or root)?  So far
>>I haven't found any way of doing this other than either making the
>>mailer be setuid to the desired user, or setting the default mailer
>>userid to the desired user for *all* mailers.  Both solutions have some
>>disadvantages.

>You may be able to do this with Chip Salzenberg's deliver.  That is, use
>deliver as a mailer, and then in the system delivery control file you
>can forward the message to whatever program you like with whichever
>userid you wish.

I don't think that is what he was asking.  Read it again.  A related
question:

If I start sendmail as superuser by doing a 'su' after first logging
on as myself, sendmail somehow figures out that I was behind it and
tends to put my RealName in ()'s on all From: lines.  The only way
to avoid this is to actually *log in* as root (which I can't do
via remote telnet for security reasons).  It's a lot of walking
to restart all those sendmails whenever I redo my .m4 files for
some reason....

What should I do so this won't happen?

Robert
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From: umarsa00@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (PROF. A.S. UMAR, (615)322-2459)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: using a signature file?
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:01:00 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am not an expert on unix mail but I see people attaching a block of
addresses etc at the ends of their e-mail. I presume they do this
automatically. How can it be done? I am using an IBM RS/6000 with
AIX 3.2.2. I know enough to configure sendmail etc. I am not running
the mail-handler program that comes with AIX.

umar@compsci.cas.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: berg@physik.tu-muenchen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg)
Subject: sendmail[13050]: AA13045: locked, what is this?
Originator: berg@tabaqui
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:11:10 GMT

I noticed entries like the following:

sendmail[13050]: AA13045: locked

in my syslog file about every 15 minutes.  I was just wondering, what does
it mean?
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: bounced mail
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:15:55 GMT

Is it possible to configure sendmail so that it only returns the first so many  
lines of a bounced mail message?

Also, a couple of the machines that I send mail to will sometmies erroneously  
report that a specific user doesn't exist and bounce the mail message.

What would cause sendmail to think that a valid user didn't exist?

Thanks.

Monty

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: maklinm@cognos.com (Max Maklin)
Subject: Re: UUCP addresses forwarded to mailserver
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:21:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.142540.28541@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin) writes:
:^()  
:^()  Well, the line in the HP sendmail config file that is the culprit is:
:^()  
:^()  # pass unresolved UUCP addresses to the UUCP relay (via SMTP)
:^()  R$+<@$+.UUX>            $#tcp$@$W$:$1<@$2.UUX>  to UUCP relay via SMTP
:^()  
:^()  
:^()  I just changed it to pass the address with .UUCP instead of .UUX
:^()  
:^()  # pass unresolved UUCP addresses to the UUCP relay (via SMTP)
:^()  R$+<@$+.UUX>            $#tcp$@$W$:$1<@$2.UUCP> to UUCP relay via SMTP
:^()  

OK, so what the heck is .UUX and why is HP shipping that in their default
snedmail configs?

Max
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Bounced Mail FAQ ?
From: ekeller@aerie.CalStateLA.EDU (eddy keller)
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:17:32 PDT
Reply-To: ekeller@calstatela.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: ATS - CalState Los Angeles
Keywords: sendmail headers

I am sure this question goes around quite often
but I am curious if the "standard" for bounced 
mail is to include the whole message and not just
the header?  Can anyone clue me into why this
is - or have I just overlooked a configuration
parameter.
Is there a way to configure this so only the headers
are included?

My Config:  Sendmail 5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.

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