HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: mail to non-waffle users under xenix
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:42:59 GMT
Organization: Ryptyde TimeSharing, San Diego, CA

kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:

>In article <ZwssiB1w164w@qed.cts.com> tim@qed.cts.com (Tim Capps) writes:

>>Does anyone have any idea how I can get Waffle to allow users to send mail
>>to people who just have shell accounts (root comes to mind, as an example).

>Welcome to de club, Tim :-)

For my site, I defined the bbs as a seperate net site, with its own address.
I used smail3.1.21 to pass incoming mail for that site to mailin.
Not easy to do initially, but once it was set up (Tom did help me on this),
it worked great.  When a bbs user wants to send mail to the shell side, all
he (or she) has to do is send it in the form (user@site).  It works the
same way from the shell side to the bbs.  Tom has copies of the necessary
config files, and *may* include the necessary "how-to" info with 1.65.

If anyone has smail3 and wants to try this, I will be happy to send copies
of my config files.

Scott

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From: david@csource.oz.au (david nugent)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Zmodem NOT recommended (was Re: f,e-protocol in 1.65)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:19:59 +1000
Reply-To: david@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley) writes:

> I would strongly recommend AGAINST using Zmodem for your UUCP
> transport layer.  This is my opinion only, of course.
> 
> Zmodem works well for its intended purpose; user-supervised
> uploads/downloads.
> 
> However, most UUCP communication is unsupervised.  Zmodem does not
> require ANY ack's from the receiving system.  Zmodem is quite
> capable of thus continuing to dump data for hours into a system
> that has hung, died, modem unplugged from computer, etc.
> Three window, 64-byte packet UUCP-g does far too many ack's at 9600
> baud, but going to no acks at all is not a great solution.
> 
> Even for local calls, a hung recipient under Zmodem could tie up
> the sending modem.  And any replacement for UUCP-g that you propose
> has to be acceptable to those who do long-distance transfers!


Yawn.

(sorry :-))

It's just that for the last 5 years I've been doing "unattended transfers"
with FidoNet mailers using ZModem as the base file transfer protocol.
Long distance (gasp!) transfers included. You can include me amongst the
16,000 odd FidoNet systems in the world and add another few thousand for
members of other networks using the same technology.

Your claim is spurious. I'm not denying that there is a very real
possibility that you're sending it a hung system, but in real life
if doesn't often happen, or is usually accompanied by loss of carrier.
If not, there is a timeout at the end of sending which takes care of
things - the reality is that there is a real cost saving overall.


> different, but to use larger parameters.  Somebody with source to
> Waffle should just change these values in uucico.

Or wait for 1.65 and change them in your static file.


> A "bigger" uucico would also have a big advantage over a Zmodem
> replacement:  The new UUCP-g protocol would be compatible with all
> the existing uucico systems, since window and packet sizes are
> negotiated between the two systems at start up.

I see nothing wrong with a ZModem variant which is incorporated into
uucico for systems that can use it. Certainly the error correction is
better that uucp-g, so it's better for transfer of larger block sizes
(there is a significant statistical difference between the error
detection schemes), and the file resume capability, transparency
over links using software flow control and auto-resizing of blocks
to suit line conditions is definitely worth it.

The problem with using larger block sizes with uucp-g is that a far
higher degree of data errors won't get detected.


david

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From: bigbrd!ersys!davem@cs.alberta.ca (Dave McCrady)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 1.65 is still BETA.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 09:26:38 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems, Edmonton, AB, Canada

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> 
> > anything.  What's the new proposed release date for 1.65, Tom?
> 
> hallowe'en, 1991.

  He said Hallowe'en.  I'm not so sure he said 1991.... :)

Dave McCrady              bigbrd!ersys!davem@cs.alberta.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta
From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Email-->Newsgroup for CompuServe?
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:46:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Apr6.174608.27678
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography

In article <1297400053@igc.org> harelb@igc.org (Harel Barzilai) writes:
>
>Is there an email-to-newsgroup link into CompuServe newsgroups

Compuserve does not have newsgroups. They have SIGS, which happen
to have message boards as part of them.

>analogous to the email-to-(UseNet)newsgroup link? 

No, there is no way to get mail posted to a CIS SIG. Unless you
want to write a gateway, and spend your money posting USENET articles
to CompuServe. To be successful, you would need to find a way to
back-gate any replies, and to allow mail to be sent to the author.

If you did, it would raise serious questions about violation of
copyright. While there is a question about the copyright status and/or
rights granted by the copyright holders for USENET material, there is
no question about who owns the copyright on CompuServe material. I
doubt that you could make a convincing argument that someone posting an
article to USENET granted YOU the right to give CompuServe the
copyright.

>If you reply by posting, please CC to harelb@math.cornell.edu

News does not have a cc option. That is mail. If you ask questions in a
newsgroup, you should stick around and read the answers.
Xref: sparky alt.bbs:3355 alt.bbs.internet:2227 comp.org.eff.talk:3366 rec.photo:6825 misc.legal:8967
From: forda@gtephx.UUCP (Andrew Ford @ AGCS, Phoenix, Arizona)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,comp.org.eff.talk,rec.photo,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Illegal photograph postings (was: Your police at work for
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:25:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: gtephx.1992Apr7.212505.28154
Organization: gte

In article <1992Apr1.213758.25319@ms.uky.edu>, sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes:
> whs70@dancer.uucp (24411-sohl) writes:
> 
> |There's an old biblical quote that goes: Let he who is without sin
> |cast the first stone.
> 
> |Presumably from Karl's comment above we can all be absolutely
> |certain that he has NEVER made an audio tape off of an FM or AM
> |broadcast, or from a borrowed record (or CD), nor has he ever
> |made a VCR tape for his personal collection of a movie that has
> |been broadcast on TV, etc.
> 
> This is an inappropriate analogy.
> 
> A more appropriate one might be to tape a show from HBO, digitize it,
> and put it on a BBS or post it to Usenet.
> 
IOW, he should not be throwing any stones, but he will anyway.

And it is even more appropriate to the copyright issue than .gifs.
By recording an audio tape or video tape from a broadcast you are
definitely denying the rightful owner of income.  

The .gifs which I have, to the best of my knowledge, are not from 
magazines - and yes, I have deliberately avoided saving some which
I had reason to believe were copyrigthed.  There is a chance I have
a couple of copyrighted pictures, I suppose.  But, I am not avoiding
buying Playboy this month because I have the pictures online - and I
seriously doubt *anybody* is, even those who are collecting all the
copyrighted pictures they can get.

On the other hand, recording broadcasts is avoiding buying the production.
You seem closed minded and incapable of cogent discourse.  Try coming 
down off your holy pedestal, people listen better that way.  You might also
try thinking for yourself and understanding shades of grey instead of
accepting definitions in black and white.

-- 
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From: karenm@yenta.alb.nm.us (Karen Millar)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: bbs sites in Sacramento THANKS, RICHARD...
Keywords: younger crowd
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:10:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: yenta unix pc, rio rancho, nm

karenm@yenta.alb.nm.us (Karen Millar) writes:

>A friend of mine wants to correspond with his children in Sacramento
>in a less expensive way than the phone... anyone with a list of the
>bbs's and unix sites in Sacramento please respond. I have posted 
>several messages with no luck. I believe it is the 916 area code.

Thanks to Richard Meadows for supplying the bbs sites.

-- 
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	Freelance in the Land of Enchantment              Albuquerque, NM
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From: eoin@eoin.net.netcom.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Prodigy stealing your personal information -- NOT!
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 23:17:04 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Amethyst Systems

aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:

> 
> Suggestion:  Do what I and many others have done:  QUIT your Pordigy account.
> 
> It's easy as 1-2-3:  On the next bill you get,  write CANCEL on it.  Don't pa


It took me 3 tries to do that.

Their bill included charges for my first "free" month and the last
one included a threating letter if I didn't pay up.



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Xref: sparky alt.bbs:3347 alt.bbs.internet:2221 alt.bbs.waffle:4160
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Prodigy stealing your personal information -- NOT!
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:08:51 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:
>If I was going to write some software to surrepetitiously steal data
>from someone's hard disk, I wouldn't transfer raw data over the modem.
>I would have the software look for certain types of files (.DBF, .WK?,
>etc), and extract interesting pieces of data first.  That would
>significantly reduce the volume of information I would need to analyze
>on my end.


As long as we're thinking up scenarios... _I_ would have it look for
known software packages on the hard drive, such as 1-2-3, Paradox,
Word Perfect, Windows, etc., and send that information, perhaps with
the serial number.  This would be an excellent way of getting an idea
of which software packages are actually out there, and could be
valuable to quite a few companies.

Or, just send the entire directory structure, that wouldn't take that
much time.  In this way you could look for new software and see how
quickly it spreads.  Neither of these involve huge masses of data.

Of course, neither of these would require STAGE.DAT.

-- 
A seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.org.eff.talk
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Where we've been (was Re: Your police at work for you!)
Followup-To: comp.org.eff.talk
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1992 00:26:09 GMT

 TJ> == The Jester <ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu> 

 TJ> So why am I posting this? To mention an organization whos name
 TJ> has seen little press on this group of late:EFF. The (lately
 TJ> silent) honchos

All of whom have been at CFP-2 over the past four days, including me...

 TJ> (such as the ever present Rita, bread baker extraordinare) at EFF
 TJ> feel free to correct me but one of the missions of EFF is to
 TJ> 'EDUCATE'. We try to show people why their fears are groundless
 TJ> (yes, we, I paid my $.02 to get a non-existent card with a
 TJ> non-existent logo =) and hope reason will win out. Then again,
 TJ> considering what we have to work with, I wonder why we bother.

I got to meet quite a few members of law enforcement at CFP-2, including
Mike Gibbons of the FBI.  Not all LE officers are like the Fresno police
who set this thread off in the first place, and one of the things Mike
Godwin's been spending time doing has been speaking to various LE groups
about these issues.

(As a matter of fact, he's off on another speaking engagement right now.)

Expect more details on CFP-2 and the Pioneer Awards ceremony RSN; we
just got back last night, after all...

[The logo exists, too, as do T-shirts; mail office@eff.org for ordering
information for the T-shirts.]
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From: rick@ofa123.fidonet.org (Rick Ellis)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Cost of Fido feeds.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 20:40:24 PDT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)

 > We chip in C$40 a year for the long distance cost of our local hub.
 > This gets us all backbone echoes. (Rather all we want.)

We're paying $15/qtr here.
--  
Rick Ellis
Internet: rick@ofa123.fidonet.org
Compuserve: >internet:rick@ofa123.fidonet.org
BBS: 714 939-6401 (HST/V.32bis)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.internet
From: vsnyder@math.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder)
Subject: Re: UNIX BBS WANTED
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:31:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.191607.25356@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>unijbm@uts.uni-c.dk (J|rgen B. Madsen) writes:
>
>: I have the following requirements:
>: 
>:     *  System 5 (BSD) UNIX
>
>You might as well hang it up :) System 5 != BSD. Unless you
>get a Sun, which has the best of both worlds -- S 5 and BSD.
>They're mutually exclisive for the most part!
>
Or Apollo Domain (JLRU = Just Like Real Unix), which can be
set up to look like BSD or SYSV at your whim.

-- 
Van Snyder = vsnyder@math.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: ddavis@osiris (dave davis)
Subject: Remote Access 1.10 at 9600baud - help needed
Summary: Need assistance setting up RA 1.10 to connect at 9600
Keywords: Remote Access, 9600
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:21:38 GMT

The subject sums up the problem.  We're setting up a Remote Access BBS using a
Hayes compatible 9600 baud modem (a UNISYS), but cannot get a 9600 connection.
The board seems to lock up if we use raconfig and change the settings to 9600
with locking or without locking.  2400 baud connections (with 2400 baud as the
configuration saved) work fine.  The paperwork is in the works to get
registered, but we'd like to get this problem solved ASAP.  Any help or
suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks...

dave davis
ddavis@aeha1.apgea.army.mil (preferred)
or
ddavis@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu


Xref: sparky alt.bbs:3343 alt.bbs.internet:2218 comp.org.eff.talk:3359 rec.photo:6790 misc.legal:8939
From: berke@lendl.Kodak.COM (Mike Berke)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.internet,comp.org.eff.talk,rec.photo,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Illegal photograph postings (was: Your police at work for you!)
Summary: must this be continued in rec.photo?
Date: 3 Apr 92 22:12:42 GMT
Followup-To: alt.bbs
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <FBwiiB7w164w@lakes.trenton.sc.us> rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy) writes:
>sam9361@tamuts.tamu.edu (Shawn Adrian Mchorse) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Mar29.034654.9173@ddsw1.MCS.COM> whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Ben Feen
>> >In article <1992Mar25.051529.2376@cirrus.com> dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi)
>> >>In <1992Mar24.153114.12346@ms.uky.edu> sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes:
>> >>2.
>> >>I find it hard to believe that no magazine publisher has yet discovered
.
.
.  [Lots of stuff deleted]
.
.

I'm not questioning the merits of the discussion, but perhaps, with all the
cross-posting, this could be dropped from rec.photo?



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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 11:00:56 EDT
From: <JDG2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: HELP DESK SOFTWARE

I am looking for some shareware to run our help desk.  If anyone could steer
me to a reliable package I would appreciate it.  You can drop a message or
E-mail me.  I am really in a major dilema finding this will get me some
attaboys and a :-)  when most need them all.....
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: jwhite@mta.ca (Jay White)
Subject: Powerboard BBS software opinions wanted
Reply-To: jwhite@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:20:29 GMT

Greetings, net-BBS'ers
          I recently came across some BBS software called "Powerboard",
 written by Scott Brown.  I have version 1.0 (although the latest
 release is 1.1), & I like it so far--it's easily customizable & has
 most of the bells & whistles one expects to find in DOS-based
 BBS s/w.  The version I have is not too Desqview-aware, but the author
 assured me this was fixed in the new release.
         Anyway, I sent in my registration for the single-line package
 yesterday ($75 US) and was just wondering if anyone out there was 
 using (or had evaluated) Powerboard & what your opinion was of it. Any 
 comments via e-mail would be most appreciated.  I'll 
 summarize to the group if there's interest.
 
  Thanks,
          Jay
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Xref: sparky alt.bbs:3366 alt.bbs.lists:654 alt.bbs.internet:2234
From: unijbm@uts.uni-c.dk (J|rgen B. Madsen)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.internet
Subject: UNIX BBS WANTED
Keywords: UNIX BBS WANTED
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:01:07 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education



I want to start a UNIX-BBS connected to Internet.

Can anyone recommend a professional BBS runing on UNIX
and where to buy/get it ?

I have the following requirements:

    *  System 5 (BSD) UNIX
    *  Nice userinterface
    *  Easy systemadministration
    *  Secure (no shell-escape etc.)
    *  Xwindow and ascii terminals
    *  E-mail and ftp
    *  Common filetransferprotcols (kermit, Zmodem etc.)


Thanks in advance

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From: asp@trail.sharpstone.com (Alexandre Sasha Polozoff)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Email-->Newsgroup for CompuServe?
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:19:54 GMT
Reply-To: asp@trail.sharpstone.com
Organization: Sharpstone Trail Productions - Austin Texas USA
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Apr6.174608.27678@talon.ucs.orst.edu> (alt.bbs), stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
> If you did, it would raise serious questions about violation of
> copyright. While there is a question about the copyright status and/or
> rights granted by the copyright holders for USENET material, there is
> no question about who owns the copyright on CompuServe material. I
> doubt that you could make a convincing argument that someone posting an
> article to USENET granted YOU the right to give CompuServe the
> copyright.
> 
> 

I know of some people on CI$ getting USENET newsgroup to their CI$
account.  They have to empty out their reader frequently because once
it gets a certain # of messages it refuses to accept any more.

I don't know what this copyright business is all about.  Several USENET
postings have appeared on CI$ and vice-versa.  I don't remember anything
in the CI$ contract that said anything you posted in one of their
SIGs meant that it automatically became CI$ copyright property. 

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