From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: Honeycoe, CLARK, + explanation
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:28:00 GMT

In article <Oct05.204814.46527@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, mk568652@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Mitch writes...
> 
>Let me get something straight here.
> 
> 
>I don't mean offense to Filipinos or their country, I think it's a great place,the scenery, etc.
>But I can't see it as a "exploitation" of people. I read somewhere that the base pours in
>one million dollars DAILY into the economy at Angeles, not to mention Subic.  Yes, we
>servicemen "serviced" the local women but anyone,  whether American , British, or Autralian,
>would indulge in the same way (just try to avoid , it 's not easy)
>..  They need our money to survive, whether they sell pottery, art, clothing, or
>women.  Yes , it's bad but it wasn't our idea to build nightclubs and having dancing girls.  Maybe it's
>a vicous cycle. Now that's it's over, thousands will be unemployed, both on and off base.
>	
>I agree that many Americans stationed in the P.I. have gone totally nuts, like a child in a toy store
>with endless amounts of money.   I hated those types there and I hate the ones who think that way
>and live in this country.  But I'm not feeling guilty for having a good time at Clark or Subic.  I can't
>help the fact that there were beautiful women chasing me for a change and that everything was
>dirt cheap.  I loved and still love the P.I. , with or without bargirls,  yet hopefully with out communism
>in the near future.
> 
>Maybe I shouldn't have posted my previous article in this newgroup, I'm sorry.  But to all you 
>young Filipino/Americans out there, I think you should know that these things exist, at least up until
>November.
> 
>P.S. - honeycoe or honey ko is bargirl slang for honey or dear I guess
>              billy boys are the transvestites running around Angeles.
> 
>I am sorry but this is a fact of life.: 

I'm not a Filipino but I feel compelled to reply to this.  I think most
Filipinos know very well what happened in Angeles and what happens at
Ermita, so you're not telling them anything new.  What is sad about your
mail is NOT that you took advantage of the cheap sex on offer - that is
perfectly natural - but that your mail suggests that you haven't looked
any deeper than the fact that women were chasing you and you had money
and they didn't.

Did you, for example, ever ask yourself how a Catholic girl, raised in
a society in which women traditionally keep their virginity until they
are married, could have got herself into a position where she is chasing
American military personnel around an airbase asking for sex?  Did you
think about how the girls felt, what social injustices had driven them into 
that state?  You say you don't feel guilty, and I don't think you should -
you just did what everyone else was doing and what anyone else would do,
but why is your explanation so superficial?  Why are you not asking the
right questions?  Do you really believe that the women were chasing
you for your body, do you not see that it was JUST about money?  Did you ever talk to
any of the girls about how they felt about their work, what they said
to their families and priests, how they explained it to their children
when they became old enough to understand?  Did you ever think to question
how they REALLY felt about you and the Americans in Angeles?

regards Laurence