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Subject: Help installing windows o
From: jonathon.twigg@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathon Twigg) 
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: jonathon.twigg@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathon Twigg) 
Distribution: world
Organization: OUT OF SIGHT BBS, Auckland, New Zealand, 64-9-298-3805

On the 01-19-93, Jennifer Lynn Kolar wrote to All about Help installing 
windows o.

JL>From: kolar@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Kolar)
JL>Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
JL>Subject: Help installing windows on novell network
JL>
JL>Hi, I am looking for information on how to install windows 3.1 on a 
JL>Novell (3.1.1) fileserver. What we need at our site is to have a few
JL>system specific files on the workstations, with the guts of windows 
JL>on
JL>the fileserver. I havent been able to locate any detailed 
JL>instructions 
JL>on accomplishing this task. Any assistance would be highly 
JL>appreciated.
JL>
JL>-J

 insert disk 1 and type setup /?

 Who knows what you will find.


     Jonathon.

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From: manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: loading win3.1 into two differnt directories on same computer.
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:46:16 GMT
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA

>What I know is that there maybe a conflict if you are using virtual
>memory (or swap memory). Do be very careful when you are handling
>modifications to the swap memory (as in your case installing another
>setup). Also, if the swap memory gets corrupted, and you are unlucky,
>you will find that your Windows can never run in protected mode anymore.
>It happens to me and I had to call the company which I bought the
>computer from to repair it. 

Please explain what happened to your computer and what the fix was.
Frankly I don't understand what could go wrong to the hardware as
opposed to the software? In any case, how did they fix the problem?

>Anyway, what's wrong installing the beta version? Although you might
>have a similar s/w installed before, you can still install the beta
>version of the s/w on another directory. 

The new and the old version may have different settings in the .ini
file. They both might put dll's into the windows directory under
the same name but with different features, and problems of this
nature.

I would be most interested as I said in an elaboration of the
problem you ran into.

Thank you.

Henry Manaster

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: SNODDI@MVS.sas.com (Dale Ingold)
Subject: 32-bit disk access
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:57:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

How does SETUP determine whether your hard drive supports 32-bit disk
access or not?  It apparently thinks mine does not, and my system guy
doesn't know why (or why not; he'd never heard of it until I mentioned
it to him.  A friend told me about it.)  Thanks.
 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: LJ01066@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: com ports problem
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 07:33:14 PST

I just went through a long session of comm port usage discussions.
First of all you need to establish that your computer has comm ports
actually available. I thought mine did as I only had a mouse installed
but I found out I actually had to disable comm2 on my serail card
using the jumper settings called out for the board. If the serial
card has comm2 enabled your modem cannot access it and will hang.
As far as using comm3 goes, most systems have comm1&3 sharing the same
IRQ's and comm2&4 also. If your mouse is on comm1 and your modem on
comm3 you are probably barfing the IRQ's. Move your mouse to comm2
or put modem on comm4 if you can and this should fix the problem.
Also, when you set terminal settings you should also save settings to
preserve whatever changes you made. Hope this helps. If not E-mail me
and I'll try to help. Lastly, look at comp.dcom.modems for many replies
to my own questions.

R.D. Horton

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Plus 2MB (mach32 driver errors)
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:43:28 GMT


Has anyone collected information on how to solve various problems
with these cards and drivers?

I actually got my system to work with the Build 53 drivers today
(after re-installing my original drivers), and then pressed my luck
by trying to go to 1280x1024.  In general, the original drivers
have strange color problems, and the Build 53 drivers have a
habit of locking up my system.

(One thing I can say about ATI: It takes real guts to charge money
for stuff that works this badly.)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: ATI Local Bus Ultro Pro Benchmarks
Keywords: WinBench, ATI Ultra Pro
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:30:45 GMT

In article <1jn3b2INN4rh@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> dcoleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel M. Coleman) writes:
>I don't remember who it was, but earlier someone was concerned about the
>performance of their local bus ATI Ultra Pro under Windows.  So I downloaded
>WinBench from cica and ran my own tests.  Here are results:
>
>Tested configuration: Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V
>			8 meg RAM
>			64k cache
>			340 meg WD Caviar HD
>		      Local Bus ATI Ultra Pro
>			2 meg VRAM and RAMDAC upgrade
>		      Telepath Modem
>		      Gravis Ultrasound
>
>	Winbench 2.5 results (in millions of Winmarks)
>
>Resolution	640x480		1024x768	1280x1024	VGA 640x480
>Refresh		95hz		70hz		66hz
>Pixeldepth	4	8	8	16	8		4
>Colors		16	256	256	64k	256		16
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Results		29.1	29.0	30.6	17.9	30.4		8.1
>

95Hz!!?  What kind of monitor do you have?  That must look like a sheet of
paper or something!

How do you all think the EISA version of the Ultra Pro will compare with these
figures?  I suspect it'll be pretty much the same since the stuff that Win-
Bench tests (line drawing, etc) don't care much about the speed of the bus.
Perhaps on memory to screen copies the local bus version will be faster...no?

Oh, and BTW - I'm not sure, but I think you are violating a (somewhat 
idiotic) licensing restriction by posting your WinBench results.
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From: scott@opl.com (Scott Evernden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Sound Driver to simulate Sound Card???
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:41:47 GMT
Organization: OPL., Inc.

In article <C1Hyvy.Fov@NoFC.Forestry.CA> dcarriga@NoFC.Forestry.CA (Dave Carrigan) writes:

>Try speak.exe on ftp.cica.indiana.edu. It's OK, but everything grinds
>to a halt when the speaker does its stuff - no mouse or anything. If
>it's a long .wav, you wait a while before you get control of your PC
>again.

There's actually an option to enable/disable 'rupts while the .WAV
thing happens (see Control Panel / Drivers / PC-Speaker / Setup).  The
noises get even worse sounding, if that's possible, but at least the
mouse can move...

-scott
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: toddwall@rock.concert.net (R. Todd Wall -- Catholic Diocese of Raleigh -- Computer Services)
Subject: Virtual Memory Setup
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:35:37 GMT


	I have Windows 3.1 running on a 386-25 w/ 2 megs of RAM.  When I run
windows it creates approximately 2 megs of virtual memory.  The manual says
I can set up to 7 megs of virtual memory, but it won't let me.  Why???

	Oh, one more thing.  I'm running QEMM 6.0....

	Any clues will be greatly appreciated...


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From: robertt@atlantis.stortek.com (Robert Thompson x7747)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: PC-NFS RSH Crashes Windows 3.1
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:12:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Storage Technology
Originator: robertt@termite

I have been having a problem using CMM 2.1 with PC-NFS.  When cmm tries to
send mail, it invokes rsh.  At that time windows crashes.  If I use the
PC-NFS nfsutils.pif file and run rsh from the resulting DOS window, the
same thing happens.  I can perform the operation from DOS just fine.  I am
using PC-NFS V3.5 on a DTK 386/33 w/16MB ram, a BOCA Super VGA card, and an
Etherlink II ethernet card.

Any help would be appreciated.  

BTW I haven't tried reinstalling PC-NFS as it hasn't complained until now.

-Robert
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: sasres@ocelot.unx.sas.com (Ron Stogner)
Subject: Re: Smartdrive/Windows/Disk Space
Originator: sasres@ocelot.unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:17:28 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1993Jan26.172902.10058@rei.com>, fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
|> jnomina@andy.bgsu.edu (A.P.K.) writes:
|>
|>
|> 2.  If you run SmartDrive disk cache, further wait about 5 seconds
|> before you turn off the machine, to allow the write buffers to be
|> flushed to disk.
|>

All the advice David gave is pretty good advice.  However, you don't
have to wait 5 seconds for Smartdrv to empty it's cache.  You can just
enter the command "smartdrv /c" and it will flush the cache.  When the
disk light goes off you should be good to go!

Ron Stogner
(sasres@unx.sas.com)

Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.setup:2845 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:36868
From: dcoleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel M. Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Local Bus Ultro Pro Benchmarks
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:54:39 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.cc.utexas.edu
Keywords: WinBench, ATI Ultra Pro

>>	Winbench 2.5 results (in millions of Winmarks)
>>
>>Resolution	640x480		1024x768	1280x1024	VGA 640x480
>>Refresh		95hz		70hz		66hz
>>Pixeldepth	4	8	8	16	8		4
>>Colors		16	256	256	64k	256		16
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Results		29.1	29.0	30.6	17.9	30.4		8.1
>>

I later ran the tests in 8514 and Mach 8 modes, and got 10.2 and 16.4 million
winmarks, respectively. (1024x768x256)

>
>95Hz!!?  What kind of monitor do you have?  That must look like a sheet of
>paper or something!

Yes, it is quite clear and flicker-free, even with an all-white screen.  I'm
using the Gateway 2000 CrystalScan 1572 FS Monitor.  The setup program offered
2 settings for 72hz refresh, one of them produced a shrunken image.  When I
used the '>' and ']' keys to blow up the image, the refresh rate stepped up to
95hz.

>How do you all think the EISA version of the Ultra Pro will compare with these
>figures?  I suspect it'll be pretty much the same since the stuff that Win-
>Bench tests (line drawing, etc) don't care much about the speed of the bus.
>Perhaps on memory to screen copies the local bus version will be faster...no?

Well, I really don't know, because I have no experience with EISA systems.  It
should probably come within a few million winmarks.

>Oh, and BTW - I'm not sure, but I think you are violating a (somewhat 
>idiotic) licensing restriction by posting your WinBench results.

Oh well,....

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From: dritz@husc8.harvard.edu (Jay Dritz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: ET4000 problems?
Keywords: ET4000,TSENG,VIDEO
Date: 24 Jan 93 07:11:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.dritz.727859490

I was wondering if anyone was having the same problem(?) that I am
having.

I cannot run VGA graphics programs in a window on the Windows desktop.
I have an Orchid ProDesigner II with 1 MB memory.  

Specifically, I am running in 800x600x256 mode and DOS VGA programs do
not run in a Window.

I have tried running same programs with drivers that came with Windows 3.1
(VGA and generic 800x600x16) and I CAN run the programs in a window.

What's up???

Please E-mail responses.  Thank you.

---Jay---
dritz@husc.harvard.edu

(p.s. I am running ET4TURBO drivers off of ftp.cica.indiana.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: mouse hangs in win 3.1
Summary: My mouse hangs in win 3.1, why????
Keywords: mouse 3.1 hang
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:13:54 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I was talking to one of my colleagues today and he said that there is
a known bug with the mouse driver for windows 3.1 that causes the
cursor to hang. Is this true and is there a fix.

I find the mouse to hang after some indeterminate amount of idle time.
return to the peecee and either the screen saver has not come on or
when I try to move the cursor it fails to move. Keyboard sequences
work however...

Any help is appreciated..
PK

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From: manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: loading win3.1 into two differnt directories on same computer.
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:34:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Organization: Yeshiva University

Can I load Win3.1 into two different directories, each within its
own setup, as though the other directory  containing the other Win
setup doesn't exist? Or will there be some conflict, but with
proper care one can attend to these conflicts by choice of
judicious settings in .ini files etc. Or it just can't be done , or
is toooooo much trouble.

I have a beta of a newer version of a program that I now run under
win3.1. I don't want to load the beta in place of the older stable
version of the program because I need it for regular production
work. But I do want to run the beta as well. So I want to create
another Win3.1 setup in another directory just to run this beta
application and so it does not mess up my regular win3.1 directory
etc.

Thank you very much for the help.

Henry Manaster


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: trinh@unlv.edu (Dinh-Yen Tran)
Subject: WANTED: SoundBlaster 2.0 Windows3.1 Driver
Originator: trinh@cleanhead.cs.unlv.edu
Organization: University of Nevada, Las Vegas Electrical Engr.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 09:55:08 GMT

Hi:
	Please point me to a site where I can find the Windows 3.1
driver for SoundBlaster 2.0.  It's not on win3/sounds at ftp.cica...
Please help.  Thanks.
dinh-yen
trinh@cs.unlv.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: fw@world.std.com (forrest d whitcher)
Subject: using network file server for windows's TEMP directory
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:52:02 GMT


I am cross-posting this question on comp.os.ms-windows.setup and
comp.unix.admin. Hope it's not a FAQ.

In trying to recover pc client disk space, I am considering having
ms-windows (nfs clients) reference their TEMP directory to (nfs
mounted) the /tmp partition on the unix file server. I'm uncertain
as to whether this is a safe or efficient practice (what does ms-
windows use its TEMP dir for?). Also, does anyone know of contra-
indications from the server side? My impression is that /tmp is a
safe place for any system process to save data.

Also, for the windows clients, in order to protect some base program
manager .GRP and perhaps .INI files onto the file server in order to 
protect from accidental erasure of these files. The reason for wanting
to do this is to cut down on my time in repairing accidental damage, as
well as trying to ensure that any user can approach any pc and find
a basic set of available resources. Its all very well for users to
customize their environments, but too often well meaning twiddling has
resulted in damage requireing assistance.

thanks, forrest

please reply via email:		fw@world.std.com

Forrest Whitcher   	Boston Scientific Corp.
From: agross@inode.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: HELP INSTALLING WINDOWS O
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:40:24 GMT
Reply-To: agross@inode.com
Organization: inode BBS, NYC's Best Usenet Access (212-679-9146)

In re Kolar@spot.colorado.edu's memo entitled "Help installing windows 
o"...

K >Hi, I am looking for information on how to install windows 3.1 on a 
K >Novell (3.1.1) fileserver. What we need at our site is to have a few
K >system specific files on the workstations, with the guts of windows 
K >on
K >the fileserver. I havent been able to locate any detailed 
K >instructions 
K >on accomplishing this task. Any assistance would be highly 
K >appreciated.
K >
K >-J

Get the Microsoft Windows Resource Kit from Microsoft for about $20.  It 
goes into detail on this.  For managing your systems, you may wish to 
review WinLogin (from Microsoft) or RSU.  The latter is shareware and I've 
seen it on CompuServe in the Novell Library Forum

Andrew E. Gross
New York City


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#! rnews 8
From: bss_greg@vd.seqeb.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: <None>
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:07:58 +1000
Organization: South East Queensland Electricity Board


In article <2b5578e2.8deda2.0@BEIZ.mediatex.ch>, Programmierer@BEIZ.mediatex.ch (055485666: MEDIAtex AG) writes:
>
 > Is there any documentation in the world, which describes all of the available
> options there are?I mean all the settings I can do in the .INI files about
> all of the Windows-Software? (Windows itself, Program-Manager, File-Manager,
> Help and whatelse is in the Windows-package.)
> 
> where can I find the information?
> 
>

Go and BUY, beg, borrow or steal a copy of the Microsoft WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT.

This kit is a manual and set of disks with supplementry utilities.

The manual takes you through all the [section] settings for all the INI files
and explains in detail what they do and what options you have.

Worth every cent.


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From: allebrandi@ipact.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Windows on diskless PC?
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:18:43 CDT
Organization: IPACT, Valparaiso IN

My PC at work is for all intents and purposes a diskless machine. The
machine is connected to our Local Area Network and gets everything
from the file server. (It boots from the file server, it loads DOS
and Windows from the file server, all of my files are stored on the
file server.) Basically nothing is on the local hard drive.

I am running Windows in 386 Enhanced mode, the only thing that I know of
that is on the local hard drive is the swap file used for virtual memory.

So I had a thought....

What if I put 32Mb of RAM in my machine and allocated it as follows:

	 1Mb	Conventional (DOS) memory
	 2Mb	Smartdrive cache
	20Mb	RAM disk
	 9Mb	XMS for Windows
	----	------
	32Mb	Total

I would then configure Windows to use a temporary swap file located on
the RAM disk.

Will this work? Could I then completely remove the hard drive?

Comments?

Thanks!

--- Tom
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TA Software Systems		(alternate: Allebrandi@Inland.Com)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: bmaggio@wort.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bill Maggio)
Subject: Re: problem with supervga.drv on win3.1
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:47:55 GMT

|> |> |> Boon-Lock Yeo (yeo@thoth.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
|> |> |> : 
|> |> |> : Hi, I tried to run win3.1 using 800x600 16 color mode (setup
|> |> |> : with supervga.drv). Everything is fine until I tried to run
|> |> |> : msdos-prompt from window. It switches fine to text mode; when I tried
|> |> |> : to get back to window, the screen messed up. Even if I tried to
|> |> |> : run msdos-prompt in window mode, the screen still messed up.
|> |> |> : 
|> |> |> : I wonder it there is any setup I am missing, or is it the some problem
|> |> |> : with the hardware (I have a supervga card 512K ram and a supervga monitor)
|> |> |> 
|> |> 
|> |> Are you using a Trident board? I have a Trident 8900C SVGA board and I had EXACTLY this
|>                                                                               ^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Maybe a bit late with the answer, but:
|> 
|> A friend of mine had the same problem. His problem was caused by the mouse-driver
|> that came with the mouse. Using a compatible windows-provided mouse-driver
|> solved his problem.
|> 
|> /Rene

I have the exact problem, also.  I'm running w/ an Oak VGA card.  I spoke
to Microsoft about this and they said that it is a board incompatability
problem.  They said their "generic' supervga.drv could not possibly
support every vga card on the market.

I even tried running w/ Oak drivers (from Oak Technology) get horrible
performance in 640x480, cannot run MS-DOS in 800x600, and cannot even
run 1024x768 mode at all.  So their drivers are no better (even a little
worse) than Microsofts!!  So basically, I'm outta luck, unless Oak
redoes their drivers or I get a new video board.

I hope you have a better end result!

Bill Maggio


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