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From: gt1111a@prism.gatech.EDU (Vincent Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Need info to connect CDC WREN 8 drive to Sun IPC
Keywords: CDC WREN 8,Sun IPC
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:41:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Jul27.202252.23152@socrates.umd.edu> mike@perca.umd.edu (Mike Santangelo) writes:
>Hi there.  We just bought a CDC/Seagate WREN 8 and need the format.dat
>info for it.  Also, is there any other disktab like stuff I will need
>to format and mount this disk (and use the normal partitions?).  Target
>host is a Sun IPC.

If you run format, just specify type "other" It will ask you some
questions. You should answer data cylinders 2105, alternate cylinders
2, heads 15, data sectors/track 87, RPM 3600,
disk name "Wren 8 ST41650N". 

Go to the partition menu and punch in your numbers. I use
partition use	start	length	 approx size
b	  swap	 0 	51/0/0	    32 megs
c	(entire) 0	2105/0/0
h	/aurora1 0	2054/0/0    1300 megs

By convention, partition c is where you keep a record of how big the disk is.
It's not usually mounted. Although people who just need on big partition
often newfs /dev/rsd?c and use it. Parition a is usually used for root
paritions, b for swap, and g for /usr. h often is where folks put a /home
partition. 

If you don't understand about sizing partitions, just holler.
-- 
The War on Drugs is just a part of the War on the US Constitution.
From: dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil (David P. Kemp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Compilers for install (was: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?)
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:24:55 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Jul22.162029.15381@news.duc.auburn.edu> elling@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>The ones that do generally need a fortran compiler (allude to the f77
>unbundling in 4.0 for all of you old timers :-) because they are written
>in fortran-77 which doesn't handle dynamic memory allocation for arrays
>and such.

You are correct that the Fortran-77 standard does not specify dynamic
memory allocation.  However, Sun's compiler f77 *does* allow dynamic
allocation using malloc and pointer variables.

It's been a bunch of years since I used VAX Fortran, but I believe it
supports dynamic allocation also.

So - if you are developing an application, there is no excuse to require
a compiler at runtime, even if you are writing in Fortran :-).

---

Re the recent flamefest over unbundling C: Sun's decision to unbundle
Fortran was the best thing that ever happened to it.  Does anyone
remember f77cvt, the preprocessor that was needed to translate VAX
Fortran (a usable language) into the yukky, unusable, ANSI-standard 
glop that was all the BSD Fortran compiler could handle?
Thank goodness Sun decided to write their own compiler.  Anyone who
lamented the passing of the bundled compiler is welcome to it.

Now if Sun would just add a decent stream-mode unformatted I/O . . .

-- 
   Dave Kemp   dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The use of history as therapy means the corruption of history as history."
    -- Arthur Schlesinger          (quote stolen from Chet Ramey, CWRU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: sim@mdtf14.fnal.gov (Jim Sim)
Subject: lightweight processes
Organization: Fermilab, Batavia, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:51:33 GMT

I am interested in using lightweight processes (threads) for a project.
The man page for lwp_create says that arguments passed to the thread
being created must be int's.  I am interested in using it in a fashion in
which I also pass pointers to the thread.

I wrote a program in which I passed a pointer to an int as one of the 
arguments to lwp_create, then in the thread I received it as a pointer to 
an int.  The code in the thread received the correct pointer, as I could 
examine the contents of the address.  

My program probably only works because the pointer uses the same amount of 
space as an int.  Am I asking for trouble by trying to pass pointers to the 
thread?  Any helpful comments would be appreciated.
From: limes@ouroborous.Eng.Sun.COM (Greg Limes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel symbol name for MAXUSER
Keywords: maxuser
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:13:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ouroborous

In article <1992Jul27.091202.24391@rdg.dec.com> navarro@azur.enet.dec.com (Jean Navarro) writes:
>Anyone knows what is the kernel symbol which will give me the corresponding
>value of maxuser defined in the config file ?

The value of "maxusers" that you used to configue your kernel is not
saved, but is used by param.c [where you built your kernel] to
initialize some common tuning parameters.

The easiest way to back-calculate maxusers, assuming you did not edit
param.c or patch the kernel, would be to check "nproc": subtract ten,
divide by sixteen. Thus, common values are:

	   nproc	MAXUSERS
	      74	       4
	     138	       8
	     266	      16
	     522	      32
	    1034	      64
	    2058	     128
	    3610	     225
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: How to change the timezone?
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:11:24 GMT
Organization: cic

cd /usr/lib/zoneinfo
cp <your timezone file> localtime
-- 
| ...!unido!ukw!lupe  (German EUNet, "bang")     |  Disclaimer:            |
| lupe@ukw.UUCP       (German EUNet, domain)     |  As I am self-employed, |
| suninfo!alanya!lupe (Sun Germany)              |  this *is* the opinion  |
| Res non sunt complicanda praeter necessitatem. |  of my employer.        |
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Better keyboards for Sun4
Date: 28 Jul 1992 17:02:52 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I'm trying to find information about keyboards for SPARCstations
that are less painful than the standard type-4 keyboard.
Lots of people I work with find the type-4 horribly painful,
and would love to have something more comfortable.

We've tried to hook up a type-3 keyboard using sun's adapter
cable and a gender changer, but the system doesn't recognize
the keyboard ("No Keyboard Detected" on power-up) and the
mouse doesn't light up.

So far, the only other solutions we've come up with are the Type-101
keyboard that Sun Select sells for $350/ea (ouch!) but we're hesitant
to buy one without somebody saying "Hey, my wrists don't hurt
anymore" or somesuch thing.

So, if you've used one of the 101 keyboards, or you know of
somebody else selling replacement keyboards for Suns, I'd
love to hear from you.

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: brad@bseller.COM (Brad Seller)
Subject: Sun-3's for sale
Organization: Brad Seller
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:29:48 GMT

I am in the process of relocating to South America, and would like to sell the
Sun-3 machines that I have used at home for a few years (very reliably).  I am 
looking for any reasonable offer to a good home.  I am not reading the news 
very often these days, so e-mail replies would be best.  Send offers or 
interest to brad@bseller.com, or uunet!bseller!brad.  Thanks, and sorry for 
the cross-posts.  What I have to offer is:


3/60 C/G Rom Rev 1.9
19" Color Monitor;
Shoebox w/150 MB disk; 60Mb Tape Drive
Shoebox - empty, w/ SCSI Cable
Sun-3 keyboard, mouse and pad

3/50/M
19" Monochrome (dimpple top).
Shoebox w/60 Mb Disk
Sun-3 keyboard, mouse and pad

SunOS 4.0.1 and 4.1.1 Tapes (1/4")
SunOS 4.1.1 Full Doc Set


-- 
====================================================================
                             Brad Seller

                        uucp: uunet!bseller!brad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Subject: Re: cc with -pg (profiling)
Reply-To: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:35:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.052334.28119@aristo.tau.ac.il>,
shani@genius.tau.ac.il (Oren Shani) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul22.135707.28712@hellgate.utah.edu> allen%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Allen Sanderson) writes:
|> >
|> >I add in the -Bstatic to the linking portion of the code and behold
|> >lots of X11 routines (like _XDrawText) are not available in the static
|> >libraries.  The profiling will not let use a combination of static and
|> >dynamic libs either.
|> But wouldn't the -Bstatic flag load the dynamic libraries as if they where
|> static (i.e. in compile time) ?

In SunOS 4.x there are in fact 3 libraries for each function e.g. for
the c run-time library there is libc.a, libc.sa.n.m and libc.so.n.m.
The .a library is standard and used for static linking, the .sa
contains those parts of the library that cannot be dynamic, e.g. static
variables and the .so is the actual dynaic library. The building of
libraries for profiling is controlled by #defines in your config, from
mit/config/README:

        ProfileLibX             boolean for compiling -p Xlib
        ProfileLibXArchive      boolean for building libX11_p
        ProfileLibXau           boolean for buidling libXau_p
        ProfileLibXaw           boolean for building libXaw_p
        ProfileLibXdmcp         boolean for building libXdmcp_p
        ProfileLibXext          boolean for building libXext_p
        ProfileLibXmu           boolean for building libXmu_p
        ProfileLibXt            boolean for building libXt_p
        ProfileOldLibX          boolean for building liboldX_p
 

-- 

Michael Salmon

#include	<standard.disclaimer>
#include	<witty.saying>
#include	<fancy.pseudo.graphics>

Ericsson Telecom AB
Stockholm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,com.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
From: andr@elvis.sovusa.com (Andrei Arkhipov)
Subject: Dial-in connection problem
Reply-To: andr@elvis.sovusa.com
Organization: ELVIS Corp.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:59:37 GMT

Hello.

I have a problem with dialup connection with my Sun. Hope anybody would help me.

Configuration:

SPARCstation 1 with Hayes ULTRA 144 on ttya.

/etc/ttytab looks like: 
ttya  "/usr/etc/getty D9600"          dialup          on remote 

/etc/gettytab looks like:
#
# 9600 baud dial-up terminal
#
D9600|Fast-Dial-9600:\
      :nx=D2400:p8:tc=9600-baud:
2|std.9600|9600-baud:\
      :sp#9600:

PC - Toshiba 2200SX with SmartOne Traveller 9624 faxmodem.


Problem:

Connection between modems on 2400 but when I use stty command after connection
I receive 9600 baud. So I think speed autodetection doesn't work.

If I send BREAK on login: SunOS switch to 2400 and then I receive only garbage 
on the screen.

Why it so bother me it's because when I try quicly scroll long text (man for example) 
I can see normally only one half of the screen. The rest part of looks like some
letters were dropped. I think it's because symbols sent to terminal faster than
it ready to receive them. When I try to set up speed 2400 (stty 2400) I receive only
garbage.

Help me, please.

      Andrei.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Subject: Re: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?
Reply-To: rolfe@ldp.com
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:38:29 GMT

In article <MALCOLM.92Jul21160829@nutmeg.cs.ntu.edu.au>  writes:
> In article <BrLFv9.9rn@noweh.com> georgn@noweh.com (Georg S. Nikodym)  
writes:
> 
>    Small correction.  SunPro makes the compiler and tools.  SunSoft makes
>    the OS.
> 
> Who cares.  They are all just sun.  I am sick of hearing about wholly owned
> subsidiaries.
>  

I love the ads tagged "Sun Microsystems Computer Company", as if I might  
confuse it with the "Sun Microsystems Granola Factory" or some such thing.


-- 
Rolfe Tessem				Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com				New York City
(212) 463-0029				(212) 463-7049 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills)
Subject: Re: adjtime(2)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:44:00 GMT

In <aegl.711915476@ossi.com> aegl@ossi.com (Tony Luck) writes:

>If you are trying to keep in sync with an external real clock on a SunOS
>system you should use adb to patch the variable "dosynctodr" to be zero.
>If you don't, SunOS will keep trying to sync with its battery calendar
>chip.

Not necessary.  Adjtime(2) works under 4.1.1 and 4.1.2.  It adjusts both
the hardware and software clocks.
-- 
-Gary Mills-         -Networking Group-          -U of M Computer Services-
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:3355 comp.sys.sun.hardware:3563
From: mike@perca.umd.edu (Mike Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Need info to connect CDC WREN 8 drive to Sun IPC
Keywords: CDC WREN 8,Sun IPC
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:22:52 GMT
Reply-To: mike@perca.umd.edu (Mike Santangelo)
Organization: CBL/CEES

Hi there.  We just bought a CDC/Seagate WREN 8 and need the format.dat
info for it.  Also, is there any other disktab like stuff I will need
to format and mount this disk (and use the normal partitions?).  Target
host is a Sun IPC.

Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Strange problem with column/rows in vt100 emulation
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:24:43 GMT

I've been experiencing a strange problem for a long time now but never
did both me enough to ask until now. I have 2 ways to signon to our Sun
in my office, via the console or via my PC using CUTCP's telnet. I find
that sometimes, if I signon using my PC's telnet after I log off the
Sun, it keeps my console windows' dimensions (hence many columns and rows)
and I'll have to 'stty rows 24; stty columns 80' to set things back. But
most of the time, this doesn't happen. I would signon using my CUTCP's
telnet in vt100 mode just fine, even after using the console for Sunview
or Openwindows. But sometimes, it just keeps my window dimensions and
things goes off my screen on the PC when I do a 'more' because it thinks
I have a lot more rows and columns than I acutally do. I can't find a
pattern to this and I don't know where to look. We are using SunOS 4.1.1
on a Sparc 4/260. Any ideas? Thanks.

Thomas.

--
    /*----------------------------------------------------------------------*/
   /*   Thomas Y. K. Wong            BITNET:        usercedl@ubcmtsg       */
  /*   Civil Eng., U.B.C       INTERNET:     thomas_wong@civil.ubc.ca     */
 /*   Van, B.C., Canada    UUCP:    ...!uunet!civil.ubc.ca!thomas_wong   */
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: elling@eng.auburn.edu (Richard Elling)
Subject: Compilers for install (was: Planning to upgrade to Solaris 2?)
Reply-To: elling@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:20:29 GMT

In article 21418@lut.ac.uk, N.Davis@lut.ac.uk () writes:
>
>Has anyone noted that some applications are distributed in 'pseudo' source
>form; they (hush tones!) *compile* segments of code before the application
>is ready to run. More often than not they use 'cc' to perform the task.

I install large quantities of 3rd party software.  Today there are very
few commercial applications which require compilers for installation.
The ones that do generally need a fortran compiler (allude to the f77
unbundling in 4.0 for all of you old timers :-) because they are written
in fortran-77 which doesn't handle dynamic memory allocation for arrays
and such.  Many of these installation/compilation scripts are broken and
have to be reworked by hand anyway.

So if you are an ISV, please try to get away from this unwieldy practice.
Meanwhile, rest assured that the high volume applications do not require
compilers for their installation.  I think there might be a (admittedly
weak) correllation between "high volume" and "need compiler to install."

---
 Richard Elling                          Manager of Network Support
 Auburn University                       Engineering Administration
 richard.elling@eng.auburn.edu   KB4HB [44.100.0.72]  (205)844-2280
 Houston, Tranquility Base here.  The Eagle has landed!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: anselmo-ed@cs.yale.edu (Ed Anselmo)
Subject: Re: Popd and Popper problem.
Organization: Yale University, Dept. of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:44:57 GMT

Both popd and popper are probably doing the equivalent of
getservbyname("pop", proto), so both are trying to bind port 110.

I run the popd from the MH 6.7 distribution on a few machines here and
do both pop2 and pop3 by explicitly specifying a port number on
startup.  I haven't used popper or the LifeLine mail popd so I don't
know if this is an option.

/etc/rc.yale:   /usr/local/etc/popd -p 110 2> /dev/null &
/etc/rc.yale:   /usr/local/etc/popd 2> /dev/null &

My /etc/services file is the other way around -:)

pop             109/tcp                         # Post Office
pop3            110/tcp                         # Post Office

-- 
Ed Anselmo   anselmo-ed@cs.yale.edu   {harvard,cmcl2}!yale!anselmo-ed
From: dlopata@shark.stat.ufl.edu (David Lopata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Type 4 Keyboard Mappings. . .
Keywords: type 4 keyboard map
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:37:59 GMT
Reply-To: dlopata@shark.stat.ufl.edu (David Lopata)
Organization: U of Florida. Statistics Dept.

...

	Where can I get a listing of key names for the Type 4 keyboards?
I'm trying to setup x3270 for our site, but the keymap provided for the
type 4 is insufficient.  It also references keys F22.., which aren't
labeled as such on the keyboard. . .

	Thanks. . .

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
David C. Lopata					     dlopata@stat.ufl.edu
System Manager, Dept. of Statistics	                    UNIX Bonehead 
University of Florida			       "It Worked Yesterday. . ." 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:3415 comp.unix.solaris:131
From: stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Solaris incompatibilities - can this be true?
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:49:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA


  I have been hearing some disturbing rumors about
Solaris 2.0.  I would like to know if anyone can
confirm or refute them.

1. Existing executables under Sun OS 4.1.2 will not
run under Solaris 2.0.  This means that if we upgrade
our OS, all local applications will have to be recompiled
and all commercial applications will be unavailable
until Solaris specific upgrades are received from the
vendors.

2. Solaris 2.0 does not support the Sun 4/XXX (e.g 4/110
and 4/280) computers.  This means that our network, which
is a mixture of SPARCstations and Sun 4's all using the
same server will have to be reconfigured as two networks
in order to upgrade the SPARCs to Solaris.

3. Solaris 2.1 will support Sun 4/XXX, but will not support
the FPU (Floating Point Unit/math co-processor) in these systems.
This means that when we upgrade the complete network, we
will lose a very substantial amount of performance on these
computers.

  Can this be true?  Is Sun really going to release an OS upgrade
that will break all existing applications, break most existing
networks, and not even support Sun hardware?
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Stevens	stevens@s3mars.scubed.com, stevens@seismo.css.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: tschoole@afit.af.mil (Tony L. Schooler)
Subject: Re: Why does OW leave all kind of garbage in tmp?
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:38:07 GMT

rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:

>In article <CKD.92Jul23233441@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>>HEM> == hillel.e.markowitz  <hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com> 
>>
>> HEM> I would say that putting the following crontab (or similar) should
>> HEM> be enough.
>>
>> HEM> 5 4 * * 6 rm -f /tmp/*
>> HEM> Of course this assumes that nobody leaves anything important on /tmp.
>>
>>Like their /tmp/.X11-unix/* sockets for example?  
>>
>>More than one person has found something breaking after a similar
>>crontab was installed.  

>"rm -f /tmp/*" won't delete either files with names beginning with ".", or 
>subdirectories. So the OW stuff is safe from the above command on both counts.

>Now, if you say "rm -rf /tmp/* /tmp/.[0-z]*", *then* you have problems ...
>-- 
>Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
>Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu

We use "0 1 * * * (cd /tmp; find . -atime +1 -type f -exec rm -f {} \;)"
in our crontab.  That way, we do not remove a file that is in use.

Anthony Schooler
tschoole@afit.af.mil

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Why does OW leave all kind of garbage in tmp?
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:37:00 GMT

HEM> == hillel.e.markowitz  <hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com> 

 HEM> I would say that putting the following crontab (or similar) should
 HEM> be enough.  After all, cleaning up once a week should be sufficient.

 HEM> 5 4 * * 6 rm -f /tmp/*

 HEM> Of course this assumes that nobody leaves anything important on /tmp.

Like their /tmp/.X11-unix/* sockets for example?  (I think screen and
the Emacs emacsclient and gnuclient packages also put sockets there...)

More than one person has found something breaking after a similar
crontab was installed.  (They probably installed it because of OW :-)
--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
   ``The First Amendment is often inconvenient.  But that is besides the
  point.  Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
         to tolerate speech.'' --Justice Anthony Kennedy, in 91-155
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:3319 comp.unix.ultrix:5870 comp.unix.bsd:2771
From: reeves@yauw.aosg.gsf.dec.com (jon reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Beware of fileno()
Keywords: sunos, ultrix, stdio, fileno, lossage
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:10:48 GMT
Reply-To: reeves@decvax.dec.com
Organization: AOSG

|> >Sean Eric Fagan   |> Andreas Stolcke
|> >... fileno() returns a char field in the FILE structure...one has to use
|> >	(unsigned char)fileno(stream) 
|> Current BSD sources have the _file element as a short.

The same change went into ULTRIX over a year ago; I believe it's been released
for nearly a year (it was definitely in V4.2, which isn't even the current
release any more).
-- 
Jon Reeves	Digital Equipment Corporation, Alpha Open Systems Group
		5 Wentworth Drive, MS GSF1-1K13, Hudson NH 03051-4929 USA
+1 603 884 5859	reeves@decvax.dec.com	FAX: +1 603 884 1685