From: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp
Subject: Re: SR: waiting for the falmes :-)
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:43:54 GMT
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In-reply-to: krischel@nunki.usc.edu's message of 10 Apr 92 23:53:46 GMT
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>>>>> On 10 Apr 92 23:53:46 GMT, krischel@nunki.usc.edu (Blackstar) said:
krischel> In article <RATINOX.92Apr10190911@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu> ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu writes:

>vanor> Also has any one ever thoght about posting stuf about Shadowrun
>vanor> tricks like when you have both a smartgun link and vission mag. that
>vanor> you can shot at any rage and still have a target number of 2

>This is a hack. You don't get a higher target number for range because it's
>harder to see, you get it because the further away the target is, the
>harder it is to hit. It don't matter that you can see a fly perfectly well
>at 100 meters, or a human-sized target at over 1 kilometer, it's still
>going to be nigh-impossible to hit either with a handgun.

krischel> Chummer, a smartgun link will give you a -2 to your target
krischel> number.  Anything at short range will have a target number of
krischel> (4-2)=2.  Vision magnification will negate any range penalties,
krischel> and with enough vision mag, you'll reduce the "effective" range
krischel> back to short, and the target number back to 2.

It's still a hack, whether the ``rules'' say you can do it or not. The
rules, as written, let people with armored jackets survive getting hit by
anti-tank rockets. What's wrong with this picture? :-)

krischel> The trick isn't that you can see a fly at 100m, the trick is that
krischel> a smartgun will put a happy little dot on your retina telling you
krischel> *exactly* where your weapon is pointing.  It *will* help to have
krischel> magnified vision in hitting a target at far range, cause you can
krischel> see that happy dot even better....though the point is well
krischel> taken....

From my own and others' experience, anyone who hit what they were aiming at
with a handgun at over 60 or so feet got lucky. I just happen to know that
a combat handgun is physically incapable of that kind of accuracy,
regardless of how well it's braced or aimed.  You could lock a combat
handgun in a vise, in an indoor range, using surveying equipment to aim it
properly at the target 100 feet downrange. From a clip of 10 rounds, you'd
be lucky if more than half the rounds strike in a 1-inch circle. Obviously,
an acuratized target pistol will do much better, but cost a tremendous
amount more than the normal, production model.

--Rat
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