HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ehganm2@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Nikolay Mehandjiev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Cyrilic keyboard DOS driver
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:14:50 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.



Well, this is a good idea for FAQ. I may prepare better for the 
FAQ, but now I want to be quick, so I just included few articles. The 
program you mention is probably on the ms-dos.screen directory of SIMTEL20.
There are mirror sites for SIMTEL20, for list of those look in comp.archives
and comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives.

Hope this helps
Nikolay



Article: 5095 of comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
From: daniel@danbo.bg (Daniel Kalchev)
Subject: Re: calling Plovdiv
Organization: Digital Systems
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:04:01 GMT

Jerry A Okoko <jo25+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
: I am a new member to your network from the pittsburgh area and was
: interested in finding out whether I could get in touch with anyone in
: the University of Plovdiv or in the Plovdiv area through this network??

The University of Plovdiv still does not have their own site yet. As far
as I know, the Technical University of Plovdiv has a mailbox at BGEARN
(see early posted message) and on the BULPAC site connected to EUnet
(bulpac.uucp). You may try contacting tempus@bulpac.uucp.

Best Regards from Varna,
Daniel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: vassil@mary-ann.cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev)
Subject: How to subscribe to the RFE/RL daily report - the real thing
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:05:19 GMT

First of all I want to apologize to all of you who were misled by my earlier
posting about the RFE/RL daily news reports. I gave the wrong e-mail address,
and I hope not too many of you have tried to subscribe, because I hate to 
think how many times my name must have been mentioned, together with a
close relative of mine (who is not my father...;^). So here is the real thing:

mail to:             LISTSERV@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu
message contains:    SUBscribe rferl-l <First name> <Last name>

example:             SUBscribe rferl-l Vassil Peytchev

The size of the reports are between 500 and 600 lines. Bulgaria is only one
of the countries, which are covered in it.

Sorry for my carelessness,

Vassil
---
Vassil Peytchev
vassil@cs.wisc.edu
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Daily News from BG
Keywords: Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, daily reports
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:42:43 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

In article <5743@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> ehganm2@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Nikolay Mehandjiev) writes:
[deleted]
>>>All you have to do is e-mail a message to `RFERL-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu',
>-----------------------------------
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAIL TO  ` LISTSERV@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu'
>                                  INSTEAD!
> 
> Nikolay Mehandjiev
>-----------------------------------

Why? I did what Vassil said and it worked fine. I already received a big
message for the 2nd of Sept. The only info there (concerning BG) is about
Kozloduy - that it readies fo winter. 

Regards
From: nexus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Abstractor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: THE NEW BULLY OF THE BALKANS
Date: 1 Sep 1992 19:14:04 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

>In <1992Sep1.070138.20948@sunbim.be> sk@groo.sunbim.be (Sasa Konecni) writes:

>+>     Their unbroken descent from Plato, Aristotle and
>+>Demosthenes sets them apart; theirs is a higher civilisation,
>+>a higher destiny. They have nothing to do with the messy
>+>history of the Balkans north of their ancient and immemorial
>+>border established in 1913 and 1919.  This approach
>+>to history requires skimming rather selectively over the
>+>thousands of years when there was no such thing as a national
>+>Greek state. The early Slav invasions, which reached far into
>+>Peloponnese and left settlements which spoke Slav well into
>+>the 15th century, are preferably ignored. So, too, are the
>+>influxes of Albanians which settled many parts of eastern and
>+>central Greece ....

>	i.e. the author wishes the greeks to forget their history because
>they were sucessivly conquered by Romans, Latins and Turks.  The author
                                   ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
Let's you wonder, what might be the difference between Romans and Latins

>wishes to deny the Greeks both their history and their OWN conception
>of national identity.

I would say, B.S, but trying to be polite I can only  say
that criticizing recreations of history dictated by mad greek chauvinism
does not deny at any rate greek history and anybody's conceptions of
national identity.

A.
lihouba
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Initation to business forum in Charkov
From: lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:14:07 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computing Centre

In article <wD7ZPB1w164w@lanix.UUCP> sava@lanix.UUCP (Sava Sotirov) writes:
>
>         FIRST INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS FORUM AND EXHIBITION BAZAAR
>
>                         " MEETING IN CHARKOV "
>
>                          October 12 - 17 1992
>
>
>                         I N V I T A T I O N
>
>                        Ladies and Gentlemens,
                                          ^^^^

[The actual invitation deleted for brevity, thanks anyway]

Shame on you for not knowing what an irregular plural is. :-)

Regards,

Christo
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Any Bulgarians in Washington DC?
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:36:11 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.


Sorry to put this query here, but I'd be grateful if there is any Bulgarian in
Washington DC, who might help a friend of mine. She has just arrived in Wash.
for a MSc study. I think that she will appreciate some initial advice from a
compatriot, who has been there for some time. 

Thanks in advance

Luben
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: es182@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Re: Daily News from BG
Reply-To: es182@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 00:05:45 GMT

Many thanks to Vassil for one of the very rare useful postings to come out
over this service in the last several weeks.
From: jo25+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jerry A Okoko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: spelling error/?
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:36:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8eadawu00WBOQ9=nkm
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excuse me guys for a moment while you debate the lingering qestion of
Macedonia-- But exactly does this one guy keep referring to Bulgaria as
Boulgaria? Any special reasons? Incidentaly, I am new to your network
and maybe there's something I missed in the past. RSVP jo25 for further
discussion.
            jerry.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Re: Bulgaria first 4 rounds
Summary: tables - help wanted
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:20:26 GMT

I will keep posting the Bulgarian football results to s.c.b and
rec.sport.soccer (where I post results from some other East European
leagues as well), but I have no time to compile tables.

Is anyone willing to update and post tables after receiving the
results from me?

Cheers,
Karel

-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
From: vassil@mary-ann.cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Help needed
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:55:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences


Please disregard my previous post about a friend of mine looking for a place
to stay in the Boston area. She got in touch with some friends there.

Thanks to all who responded or wanted to respond.

Vassil
---
Vassil Peytchev
vassil@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: es182@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Re: Re:.... Macedonia
Reply-To: es182@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 00:01:39 GMT

I'd like to second Plamen Petrov's request. Enough already of the
macedonian question. Is there nothing happening in Bulgaria (!) of
interest to the people on this list?
From: fk1pp@castor.ldc.lu.se
Subject: Re: Re:.... Macedonia
Reply-To: fk1pp@castor.ldc.lu.se
Organization: Lund University Sweden
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:41:56 GMT

Can someone tell me how to filter out all this rubbish about Macedonia
when reading the News?

Plamen Petrov
fk1pp@castor.ldc.lu.se
Univ. of Lund, Sweden
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:01:44 -0400 
From: Jerry A Okoko <jo25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: calling Plovdiv

hello netters!!
I am a new member to your network from the pittsburgh area and was
interested in finding out whether I could get in touch with anyone in
the University of Plovdiv or in the Plovdiv area through this network??
It would be most appreciated. Thanx.
                       Jerry.
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Pomaks
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:53:06 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

In article <vassil.715396941@cs.wisc.edu> vassil@mary-ann.cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev) writes:
>lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov) writes:
>
>>In article <9208311723.A5696pu@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>>[deleted]
>>>essential reality that there lives in Western Thrace a much bigger 
>>>Turkish minority. The 'Pomaks' are also a Muslim people, whom all the 
>>>three nations (Bulgarians, Turks, and Greeks) consider as part of 
>>>themselves. 
>
>>Could you please explain why they are considered Greek? 
>
>Because there are Pomaks in Greece,

So - they are Greek citizens, but my point, however was about their
national and ethnic consiousness. Alas, in such discussions, one easily
gets messed in such definitions.

>                                   which, as we already know, is one of the 
>most uniform countries (with regard to ethnicity). Apart from the sarcasm,

:-)))) - well placed :-)

[deleted]

>Regards,

>Vassil

Likewise

Luben
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: camoskov@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Public remarks (was: Re: Initation to business forum in Charkov)
Organization: 
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:39:32 GMT

In article <5920@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.181407.26278@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il> lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy) writes:
> 
> [deleted]
> 
>>[The actual invitation deleted for brevity, thanks anyway]
>>
>>Shame on you for not knowing what an irregular plural is. :-)
> 
> So - couldn't you have used a private mail to point this. It's not a great
> deal that some Bulgarians aren't fluent in English. I can't understand why
> you bash the guy on USENET. What will you achieve making this remark in public?
> 
>>Christo
> 
> Luben

I agree with Luben on this issue!  It seems that some Bulgarians need to be
taught more ethics as oposed to any other sciences.  Networks are not created 
for language wizzards.  They are ment to provide fast exchange of information.  
So please, show some undestanding!
Angelo Moskov

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Angelo Moskov                 |    Tel: 312-753-0149                 |
University of Chicago         |    Fax: 312-753-1227                 |
Graduate School of Business   |  Email: camoskov@gsbvax.uchicago.edu |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands
Subject: Re: confused
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:11:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep2.201127.14019
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Hmmm, let's see if I get this straight....Holland is only a part of The Netherlands, The Netherlands is not the same as Holland. Ok, but why do they call all
the peoples of the Netherlands "Dutch", and why is the language "Dutch", why
not "Netherlandish" , or "Hollandish". Do the other States of the Netheralands
even speak "Dutch", or do they speak completely unrelated languages, like the
"Gaelic"/"Welsch" situation in Great Britain?? How do the different groups
see themselves, ethnic-wise??
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Re: de gekke x
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Distribution: soc
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:27:27 GMT

reheerdi@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rob Heerdink) writes:
>
>Mijn wp{wp}nl.lex geeft wel bizonder vreemde voorstellen voor x*
>xeroderma - kan ik me nog iets bij voorstellen
Ik niet, maar ik ben dan ook geen pharmacoepidemioloog :)

>xiamen - ?
>xigaze - ??
>xuyen  - ???
>xylografie - ????
>
>en voor y*
>yafo
>yarmuk
>yazd (!)
Mooi voor scrabble.

>yogyakarta - zo schrijf je dat toch niet
Zeker wel, in Bahasa Indonesia. (Of schrijf jij ook nog Soerabaja?)

>yunis
>
>Ik blijf bij mijn theorie dat die mormonen ons hersenspoelen via WP-spell.
Mormonen??

>Pas op voor de verborgen boodschappen!!!!
>
>Rob Heerdink
>Department of Pharmacoepidemiology
>Utrecht University, The Netherlands
>


-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands
From: bron@let.rug.nl (R.J. Bron)
Subject: Amerikaanse Verkiezingen (gezellig)
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:25:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.213025.12491@nynexst.com> sierhuis@erasmus.nynexst.com (Maarten Sierhuis) writes:
>Hallo luitjes,
>
>Nou heb ik al in geen weken s.c.n. gelezen of iets gepost, maar
>die Maarten waar Koos het over heeft, ben ik dat?
>
>Even denken hoor ... ja, inderdaad sommige piepeltjes kunnen niet
>zo goed tegen mijn meeltjes en ... ja ik ben met een Amerikaanse
>getrouwd (nog wel, maar vertel dat maar niet verder).
>
>Koos heeft wel gelijk vinden jullie ook niet? Behalve dat van die 
>onwensbare NL-ers die dan met Amerikaanse trouwen. Want, hoezo
>onwensbaar in NL? Ik zal eens een lijstje van NL-vrouwen opstellen
>die dus zeer baalden :-) (en nou niet meteen happen hoor ... het
>is echt waar!)
>
>Nee Koos, ik denk dat alle wensbare NL-se mannen juist in het
>buitenland een vrouw vinden :-)
>
>Zo, ik ben er weer EVEN, want bij ons geen 'it's goof off time' hoor!
>
>Doei ... MXS

Ook al weken niets meer gepost naar s.c.n. maar MXS (nog steeds weet ik niet 
waar de X voor staat) weet de inspiratie altijd weer aan te wakkeren. Licht 
hij niet op een naturisten-strand zijn schoenveters te strikken dan 
filosofeert hij wel over de wensbare mannen en het NL-tranendal dat hij 
heeft achter gelaten. Dat houdt s.c.n. leesbaar - wat mij betreft 
(maar versta mij niet verkeerd: vrijheid blijheid) heel wat leesbaarder dan 
de uitslagen in de Eerste divisie (Sterk Door Onderling Begrip - Vlug en 
Lenig 0-0) - en zo valt er ook nog eens wat te lachen.

Over "lachen" gesproken. Ik volg de laatste tijd enigszins regelmatig de 
Amerikaanse verkiezingscampagne via CNN en ik moet zeggen (ik ben nog nooit 
in de JNHS geweest) mijn mond blijft openvallen van verbazing. Dat iemand 
als Bush (net zo stom maar minder koddig dan Reagan, zou ik denken) zovele 
handen op elkaar krijgt is voor mij onbegrijpelijk. Misschien dat de s.c.n-
ers in de JNHS ons achterblijvers hier eens wat meer over zouden kunnen 
vertellen. Ik probeerde me laatst Lubbers voor te stellen die na een paar 
kreten ten beste te hebben gegeven ("Holland is the country of eternal 
spring", ik noem maar wat) door zijn familie omringd, opgeluisterd door de 
klanken van "Wien Neerlands Bloed door d'Aderen vloeit (of in zijn geval 
wellicht eerder "Aan U, O koning der Eeuwen"), wordt toegejuicht door 
duizenden imbecielen met baseballpetjes waar op te lezen staat "Family 
Rights forever, gay-rights never". Of mevrouw Kok die ons in prime time komt 
vertellen dat Wim de gezondste man is die zij kent. Nederland zou er een 
stuk van opvrolijken!

Robbert Jan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands
From: messiah@nevada.edu (MHW)
Subject: Re: Little Thumbkin (deel II)
Keywords: klein duimpje, humor, dutch english, Curacao
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:08:36 GMT

In article <laa821INNoc8@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes:
>Is it just my defective sense of humour, or are there more
>dutchmen who cannot stand this type of ongein?
 
Personally I don't find it to be an issue of "gein" or "ongein". As someone
who rarely has occasion to speak his native tongue I find some of this stuff
reasonably challenging because it reenforces the meanings of forgotten 
expressions. Perhaps to folks who regularly speak Dutch its superfluous, but
in that case why not just hit the "k" key to junk 'em all in one shot.

>I've been hearing
>this sort of quasi-translations since I was six years old (Toon Hermans
>wrote a couple of songs in this vein, and we were taught them in
>school. Strange idea since we didn't know English too wel),
>and I failed to find them funny after I was seven.
>Victor.

>PS the recurrence of the angstschreeuw also peeves me no end.

I dunno Victor, seems to me like some people make an effort to contribute in
a productive manner while others don't and make up for it by throwing
"flames" at contributors. This particular phenomenon is quite common in
many of the other net.groups I read.

Everybody *flames* once in a while, including me, but what's the point? I
say either hit the "k" key or contribute something positive. I'll grant you
though that some of the contributions in this group are rather dull...
(except mine :-) )

Marco, LV, NV, JNHS
From: vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands
Subject: Re: job (baan)
Date: 29 Aug 1992 07:02:55 GMT
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
NNTP-Posting-Host: ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au

karin@zach.fit.edu (Karin Nicholson) writes:

>Ik denk dat velen mij zouden beschouwen als `middle class'.  Ik denk zelfs dat
>ik in Amerika beschouwd zou worden als een `yuppy' of zelfs de helft van een
>`dink'.  Het geld is er niet zat, maar komfortabel zijn we wel.

Effe kijken hoor. Helft (=1/2) van dubbel (=*2) is dus een 
( 1/2  *2 =1= one) (sorry geen 8 bits potlood bij de hand).
Dus je bent een   OINK  

Groetjes Louis Verhagen
Oost Australie 	Canberra (de Hoofdstad), ACT (<= oude versie van Etc)
From: hoek@dutiws.tudelft.nl (P. Brijs / T. Hoek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands
Subject: uitslagen PTT Telecompetitie
Keywords: Ajax en Feyenoord verliezen punt
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:24:31 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology,The Netherlands


Uitslagen PTT Telecompetitie, derde speelronde, 29/30 augustus
==============================================================

FC Utrecht              0       Feyenoord               0
Sparta                  0       Ajax                    0
Go Ahead Eagles         2       FC Den Bosch            0
Fortuna Sittard         0       Willem II               1
SVV Dordrecht '90       2       MVV                     2
Volendam                0       RKC                     2
FC Twente               5       FC Groningen            0
Roda JC                 0       Vitesse                 2

PSV - Cambuur is verschoven naar woensdag 2/9.

Stand PTT Telecompetitie na drie speelronden
==============================================================

Feyenoord            3  2  1  0  5   9 - 1
Ajax                 3  2  1  0  5   6 - 1
FC Utrecht           3  1  2  0  4   4 - 1
Vitesse              3  1  2  0  4   3 - 1
FC Twente            3  2  0  1  4   6 - 5
RKC                  2  1  1  0  3   2 - 0
GA Eagles            3  1  1  1  3   4 - 4
FC Den Bosch         3  1  1  1  3   3 - 3
Willem II            3  1  1  1  3   2 - 2
Sparta               3  0  3  0  3   0 - 0
PSV                  1  1  0  0  2   2 - 0
Cambuur Leeuwarden   2  0  2  0  2   1 - 1
MVV                  3  0  2  1  2   3 - 6
Roda JC              3  1  0  2  2   1 - 4
Groningen            3  0  2  1  2   1 - 6
Volendam             3  0  1  2  1   1 - 4
Fortuna Sittard      3  0  1  2  1   2 - 6
SVV/ Dordrecht '90   3  0  1  2  1   2 - 7


Mvg, Peter

---
Peter Brijs                \\ 'C'est mon opinion, et je la partage'
winfptr@is.twi.tudelft.nl  //                        H. Monnier  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands
From: mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926)
Subject: Re: Dutch Coffee
Organization: PTT Research
Distribution: soc
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:03:54 GMT

In article <ERIC.92Aug26095438@matisse.ling.flab.fujitsu.co.jp>, eric@flab.fujitsu.co.jp (eric) writes:
> Jacek had vorige week (of de week daarvoor, weet ik veel) een
> interessante vraag over "Dutch doors" (ik had nog nooit van die term
> gehoord; hoe noemen wij die dingen ook al weer in het Nederlands?), en
> ik heb nu iets soortgelijks. Ik word hier in Japan regelmatig
> geconfronteerd met de term "Dutch Coffee"; heeft iemand daar ooit wel
> eens van gehoord? Volgens mijn Japanse informanten wordt hier onder
> Dutch Coffee verstaan koffie die met koud water gezet is. Ik doe dus
> natuurlijk altijd zwaar beledigd en maak ze wijs dat Nederland het
> meest koffiedrinkende land ter wereld is (weet iemand trouwens of dat
> wel waar is? 't Zal vast niet veel schelen) en dat wij dus zeker niet
> aan dergelijke kwakzalverij doen (overigens heb je in Japan ook prima
> koffie), maar ik vraag me toch eigenlijk wel af of hier nou nog iets
> achter zit of dat dit echt zomaar door de een of andere gestoorde
> Japanner verzonnen is. Wie weet meer?

Nou in Nederland wordt koffie toch inderdaad met koud water 
gezet. De meeste mensen weten dit niet vanwege een complot van de 
koffiezetapparaatfabrikanten. Ga maar na je gooit er koud water 
in en er komt warme koffie uit. Wat er tussen beide tijdstippen 
gebeurt blijft een raadsel. Er komt wel wat stoom uit maar dat is 
voor de sier. 

Deze koffiezetapparaten worden alleen in Nederland verkocht 
vanwege het hoge kalkgehalte van het Nederlandse water. Als dit 
water in het apparaat wordt verhit ontstaat zeer snel 
kalkafzetting. Om de levensduur van het apparaat te verlengen 
wordt de bovengenoemde oplossing gekozen.

Deze oplossing is het eerst door Japanse 
koffieapparaatfabrikanten toegepast. Kennelijk heeft iemand zijn 
mond voorbijgepraat zodat er in Japan over Dutch Coffee wordt 
gesproken.

Hopelijk is iedereen nu wat beter op de hoogte.

    Groetjes,
    	Mike
Newsgroups: soc.culture.netherlands