From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: ALL ARGUMENTS FOR PRO-CHOICE REFUTED HERE!!!!!
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:59:12 GMT

>I'm not going to waste my time refuting everything in this bit of
>trashy propaganda, but I'll start with the first couple of paragraphs
>and let you all figure out how the rest will go.

Typical.

>>These 19 arguments are refuted:
>>1.  A woman should have a choice.
>>
>>Between what options?  To give birth or have her child killed?  The choice
>
>No, between the risks associated with pregnancy and birth and aborting
>an embryo/fetus.  (calling a 8-week embryo is really stretching the
>word "child" here, but I'll let it pass).

You *didn't* read the post, did you?  The risks of abortion are over twice
as high as the risks of childbirth.  Second, with the risks they way they are,
this should NOT be the primary factor.  The unborn baby's LIFE is much more
important.

>>between a live or a dead baby?  When a woman conceives, she becomes a mother,
>
>No, babies have been born.  Killing a baby is illegal, abortion is
>not.

I don't care what's legal and what's illegal, and what your definition of
baby is...I'm talking about what *should* be.

>>of her child, and she will eventually regret that choice.
>
>Unsupported and incorrect.  A lie.

Your opinion.

>>Susan Carpenter McMillan has stated:  "As a feminist, I believe strongly in a
>>woman's right of choice.  But with abortion, we're really talking about the
>>rights of human beings versus the `right' of an individual to kill another
>>human being.  We're talking about someone's right to live versus someone's
>>right to choose death for another person.  We're talking about life versus a
>>lifestyle."
>
>BFD.  Just because she's quoted doesn't mean Ms/ McMillan is in
>slightest bit correct in her assertion.

Did I say she was?

>>Deuteronomy 30:19 reminds us:  "I have set before you life and death, the
>>blessing and the curse.  Choose life then so that you and your descendents may
>>live."
>
>Quoting select verses from the Bible can be used to establish _any_
>point.  People have posted biblical _support_ for abortion _and_
>murder.

Those people are either ignorant or stupid, for if you take the Bible as a
whole, it is VERY CLEAR WHAT THE BIBLICAL OPINION ON MURDER IS.  As for
abortion, THERE IS *NO* CLEAR VERSE FOR IT.  Though it is very clear that Jesus
has a very definite love for children.

>The rest of post is no more credible than this bit.  Filled with
>meaningless pseudo-statistics, unattributed quotations, appeal to
>emotion, and outright lies, it is not a collection of arguments 
>against abortion but is rather nothing more than propaganda designed 
>sucker the gullible and assuage the consciences of the fanatics.

These are all blind assertions made at a post you didn't even give a decent
refute to.  I'll return in kind, and not give your post any more consideration
than this.
-- 
Samuel Stoddard, the Weapons Master           JESUS IS LORD!!  HALLELUJAH!!!!!
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