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From: lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: opposite of misogyny?
Keywords: liking women
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:46:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <92Oct05.002308.24682@acs.ucalgary.ca>, panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
|> In article <sbuckley.718241715@sfu.ca> sbuckley@fraser.sfu.ca (Stephen Buckley) writes:
|> >  most nice guys know misogyny is wrong and we tend to respect women
|> >most if not all the time.  but what's getting me down is that not only
|> >is it o.k., but it's also fashionable for women to hate men and for
|> 		 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> Well, I dunno about this, and yes, I've actually heard some
|> vitriol along these lines, but in my experience women and men
|> seem to get along just fine -- of course, the circles in which I
|> happen to make these observations are fairly mainstream; your
|> mileage may vary. 

Victor, I tend to agree with you on this.  Most of my friends, both
male and female, tend to get along with the opposite sex just fine.  
Of course, I have a few *acquaintances* who match Stephen's 
description, but I don't count these people as "friends."  And, lord
knows, I've seen my share of it here on the net!

|> I like being a man, and I enjoy the company of
|> women most of the time (I actually *like* women, you know!), and
|> I can't understand why some men and women seem to hate one
|> another so fiercely -- I must be incredibly naive and sheltered
|> to have such a benign view of the "war" between men and women.
|> 
|> Maybe not.

and I *really* like being a woman -- it's GREAT!  and I truly like
men.  Not that I'd be particularly interested in trading places or
anything -- I just appreciate the differences that are there.

|> 
|> >many men to join in this man-hating binge.  the double standard hit me
|> >a few weeks ago and it really saddens me.
|> 
|> Ayayay. People who hate cannot bring peace to the world. Peace
|> will only come from those who are themselves peaceful. There is
|> already too much hatred and misery in the world. Let us not add
|> to it. Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty!

Well, I don't *hate* anyone, really.  But there are a few men who
I don't trust.  And unfortunately, I have a tendency not to trust
any man who is the same "type" as these guys who really did a 
number on me.  That's unfortunate and probably unfair, but there it
is.  I certainly don't dislike *all* men because a couple of poorer
excuses for human beings who happened to be of that gender raked me
over the coals.  :-)  Now *that* would really be stupid!
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From: nelson@eastrg1.cray.com (Christine Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Read This
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:18:29 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <5664@news.duke.edu>, joshua@acpub.duke.edu (Joshua Goldie) writes:
|> 
|> >So tell me...am I the only one tired of people saying or implying that sex
|> >has nothing to do with romance? Sex darn well can be very romantic! Okay,
|> >next question...am I the only one tired of people telling me where I can or 
|> >can't post about certain things? Just curious...
|> >
|> >
|> >   Tyger
|> >        
|> Let's make it simple, you're wrong.  While sex can be romantic, penis size
|> and other discussions relating to statistics or mechanics or technique are
|> not and as such have no place in this group.  Take it elsewhere - alt.sex
|> for example, a group designed for just such discussions as you seem to
|> enjoy.  And to answer your second question: I, for one, will never tire of
|> telling you where you may post. :)
|> 

no, let's make it simple -- YOU ARE WRONG.  

oh my!  josh, old boy, i think you better head for cover.   


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From: ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathleen Treole)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs, again!
Keywords: romanit songs mushy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:55:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.011611.18491@pellns.alleg.edu> kennede@carr62.alleg.edu (E
rin Kennedy) writes:
>Never really having a relationship before, I have often dreamed of having
>one with certain songs in mind.  I have read the other postings and whole
>heartliy agreed, but how about:
>    Same Auld's Lang's synd??--Dan Fogelberg
>    Take a look at me now--Phil Collins
>    You are so beatuiful--Joe Cocker
>    Separate Ways--Phil Collins and some one else
              ^^^ Lives not ways     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^   Marilyn Martin
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ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                      ...what a sham that was!
"Ski the Alveolar Ridge"                                          -Kramer, 1992
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         Too many times we stand aside, and let the waters slip away
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: dahead00@nx28.mik.uky.edu (Zippidy Do Dah)
Subject: Re: SWF's & SBM's - Does Society Worry Way Too Much???
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:48:51 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct2.201745.9834@unet.net.com> linda@wendy.net.com (Linda  
Hill) writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.163407.22314@metter.fmpmis.metter.com>  
virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Paul Virgo) writes:
> >
> >You have white females going *gaga* over hispanic males...white males
> >crooning songs of love to blushing black females..asian females reading
> >love poetry to smitten black males...and it goes on and on...
> >BUT...
> >For some reason when it comes to coupling black males/white females....

I think your'e all wet on this one

> Well, this may be true where you're from, but it sure isn't my  
experience.
> I see more WF/BM couples than any of the other mixtures you cite (some  
of
> whom are married), and no one bats an eye here.  In fact, my reading ...
> -- 
> Linda V. Hill                           Email: linda@net.com

I agree with Linda on this one....  It seems like it is always BM/WF in my  
town...  Can't say I ever remember seeing WM/BF around here (pop around  
1/4 million) Damn shame to since there are alot of intellegent &  
attractive BF's around.....
From: dewind@acsu.buffalo.edu (Idbil Fubar)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: romantic songs
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:37:20 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: UB

slayer@gl.pitt.edu (Deborah) writes:

>Rush:    "Different Strings", "Ghost of a Chance"

>Eric Johnson:  "Bristol Shore"  "Forty-Mile Town"

>Anderson, Brueford, 
>Wakeman & Howe     :  "The Meeting"  "Quartet"

Woah!  cool music!

I may add that although lyricaly not too romantic the music of Marillion
(Fish on vocals) is some of the most soothing stuff on the planet...

well...except all of those hate songs...

Id
From: wdavid@unf6.unf.edu (Godzilla)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: motherhood and romance
Date: 27 Sep 92 06:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

In article <00960F20.78AEF360@EA.USL.EDU> merciermd@EA.USL.EDU (Lusty Yeller Wench) writes:
>
>surprised to find out that relatively few guys (at least, the
>ones that i know) care that a woman is pregnant. do i just meet
>strange people, or is this the norm? the biological donor

Dunno. *I* couldn't deal with it. I'm sure there are guys who could.

>feeling fade once little ian patrick raymond mercier is born?

It'll be interesting. Kids cause a bunch of changes. (Based on 
observations of my friends who are parents. I don't know some
of them any more...)

>@   -(-{@ @}-}- -(-{@ @}-}- -(-{@ @}-}-  -(-{@ @}-}- -(-{@ @}-}- -(-{@    @
>@  Marisstella Mercier                  \ "Lemme graze into your veldt,   @   
>@  University of Southwestern Louisiana \  Lemme stomple your albino,     @
>@  VAX account : merciermd@ea.usl.edu   \  Lemme nibble on your buds,     @
>@  When I think of you, I kiss my wall. \  I'm your love rhino."          @
>@                  Neema Mercier, age 9 \                 -DEATHTONGUE    @
>@ {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} {@ @} @

On the other hand, anybody with a Deathtongue quote in their .sig 
must have a lot going for them. ;-)


-Bill
wdavid@unf6.cis.unf.edu
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Bits & pieces..
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:05:52 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <10292277.6409.21101@kcbbs.gen.nz> Rob_Tan@kcbbs.gen.nz (Rob Tan) writes:
>A friend of mine is hung up on a 15 y.o. girl.. (to put it bluntly..)..
>He says he loves her.. truly.. he's 20 BTW.. problem is that the girlbieng 
>a little young, is still looking to experience err.. new sensations 
>new poeple that type of thing.. while he thinks he has found the one 
>for him.. anyhow.. circumtances has found him baording with the girl's 
>family.. while he has temporary 'broken up' with her -ie no dates at 
>the mo.. , was doing him no good, & besides exams are coming up.. - 
>he's not exactly forgotten about her.. after all he sees her every day.. 
>happnes when you're living under the same roof.. 
>Besides being there for him when he needs a fiends is there much that 
>I can do that would ease him & help him keep his mind off her? He wants 
>too.. but can't.. 
>
Love is blind. I am glad I am not in his shoes. I would think that putting
some distance between the two of them might be worth some trouble. 
Also, any distraction will probably help him get some perspective.

>Another problem.. this time its mine.. not so major.. but maybe more 
>complex?? It goes like this.. there's a girl I like.. (ah ha! I hear 
>you say..).. its the a question of courgae of ask9ing her out or anything.. 
>Thing is hopefully I'll finish university in 2 more years.. & then I'll 
>be off to the serve national service (the army for those who don't know.), 
>in some other country for about 3 years before becoming a free man again..
>Now.. if I ask & she says no.. the porblem disappears.. coz its not 
>her saying no I'm worried about.. but rather her saying yes if I should 
>ask.. assuming she falls for me, wouldn't it be inconsiderate of me 
>to have initiated things when I know I'll be letting her hang for a 
>few years..? I'm not into causing pain needlessly.. advise please.. 
>now if its me & not her that falls for the other.. then at least its 
>my fault (kinda).. & I'll live.. ( I hope..).. at the moment.. we do 
>(well I do!) enjoy each other's company.. 
>

My feeling is it would be a mistake to worry about your service 
at this point. Two years is a long time, and a lot can happen.
If a solid relationship develops between the two of you in the
two years, then the three years will be annoying but it won't
hurt the relationship. If little or nothing develops between you,
as you said, it is unimportant what happens to the relationship. 
So the only problem is if the relationship falls somewhere in between.
But I think that is the sort of risk you have to take if you want
to have a successful relationship. 

I don't think it is inconsiderate unless you keep it from her that
you will be going off. It sounds like you think you might ask her to
spend a lifetime with you -- that would be asking a lot more than
asking her to spend three years mostly apart.  But in return, you will
be giving her a lot, too.

Michael.
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Subject: Re: Love for the wrong reason
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:38:32 GMT

>In article <1992Sep24.122219.1144@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_arthurjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>>This is a rather strange setup of events. Not long ago, I was on
>
>>suggestions have been offered to me by some concerned friends of mine.
>>Namely, that this woman only wants a guy to father her child.
>>I hope this is not the reason. I don't want to hurt her feelings
>
>>have gone so far as to suggest that she is trying to get me into
>>bed so she can take me to court and make me pay child support
>>or some garbage like that. I just can't bring myself to believe
>>that a woman would pull a stunt like that.

Believe it, budd. Take it from somebody who just attended the wedding
of a friend who got this treatment, women can do this.

Trust me on this.

Nineteen years old, and now he has two kids to worry about. Not good.


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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: 891078p@ace.acadiau.ca (Trevor Perkins)
Subject: Re: How do you know if you are in love?
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:48:33 GMT

In article <BvM7K0.wI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> 
 darkmoor@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Darkmoore) writes:
>
>  How do you know if you are in love?
>

   WHEN YOU HAVE NO MORE FREEDOM !!   When you spend all of your time 
thinking about said individual and not doing a damn thing for fear that it 
might affect said individual's opinion of yourself !  WHEN YOU HAVE NO LIFE 
OUTSIDE OF SAID INDIVIDUAL !!  
   It is a case of having lost all your marbles !  IMHO love is greatly 
overrated !!  ( now ducking for cover )

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Subject: Re: Hmmm... Just an interesting question?
From: Rob Earhart <earhart+@CMU.EDU>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 01:56:27 -0400 
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

  To sweeten the pot, what if their current one is a LDR? :)

  I still think (from experience, no less!) that becoming friends is the
best thing... and then, if things don't work out for them, you're there
to pick up the pieces... and if they do, you can be a *really* good
friend, and cheer the two of them on!

  Sometimes the nicest thing you can do for a person is to let them know
you're a friend, without the romantic aspect...

(what's really weird is when they have problems, and you find yourself
talking the person into giving their current relationship one more try,
and it works... because you've both missed an opportunity and made two
people very happy at the same time.)

  -Rob
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn)
Subject: Re: American High School & bits (long)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:14:00 GMT

In <BCR.92Oct3180053@hpl3sn02.cern.ch> bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers) writes:

>In article <BvICvn.M1F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis) writes:

>>Well, maybe we ought to put a "Key to Unfamiliar Terms" list at the
>>bottom of our postings?  Seeing as how the English used in America,
>>Canada, England, Australia (where else do people speak English??)
>>is so full of local idioms...or at least confusion!  ;-)

>A bit complicated isn't.  Especially since your answers were so specific
>that they only apply completely to Indiana...  For example, I had plenty
>16 befor his licence is valid for highway driving...)  As far as I know,
>only about 60% of U.S. high schools start at 9th grade, most of the others
>start at 10th... (So, they still have Freshmen, but no sophomore's.)  Also,
>there are some high schools that start at 8th grade...

However, he was talking in general, and about the standard. As you pointed out,
the majority of US HSs are 9-12th grade, and the VAST majority of US drivers
get their licenses at 16. His answers applied as well as possible to the
majority of the US.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: sshenoy@nyx.cs.du.edu (SANJAY SHENOY)
Subject: Romantic Songs.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 04:33:04 GMT


In addition to the above, how about
Right Here Waiting - Richard Marx
Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Ashley
Human - Human League
Restless Heart - Peter Setera
One More Try - Timmy T.
Lady in Red - Chris de Borge
From: jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: It hurts like Hell.....Again
Date: 2 Oct 1992 21:45:16 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Karleenus Schwartz Davis says:
> Jaymz says:
>>so, In other words I gotta sell myself back to the person that
>>already owns me eh?
>>heh

> Well, yeah...you see, she's taken you back to the store, receipt
> in hand, and you've got to convince her not to return you!
which I hopefully will do!


> (Either that or you can grab the receipt and tear it up!)
oh, and how does one do that?

> ((Oh, and some places accept returns if there's still a price tag,
>   so be sure and look for yours...))
Oh? and where's a good place to look?

> (((Unless, of course, she paid by check, in which case she's going
>    to have to wait until the check clears...)))
hmm, it'll prolly bounce....
heh

> ((((Wait, this is getting silly...))))
agreed

> (((((Isn't it nice how emacs shows you which parenthese you're    
>      matching up with?)))))
dunno, never used emacs
heh

Just



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From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:09:18 GMT

In article <hf10.717630724@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> hf10@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (FieryPhoenix) writes:
>I don't know if this song has been mentioned yet but....
>"Somebody" by Depeche Mode

<sniff!>  Yes, it's funny how the mere mention of a special
song you shared with someone can almost bring you to tears...

And how about "I'll stop the world (and melt with you)" by
Modern English...

-Thomas
 resident technoshaman
 "...things like this
  make me sick,
  in a case like this,
  I'll get away with it..."

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: nev@bnr.co.uk (Neil Vince)
Subject: Re: Read This
Organization: BNR, London Road, Harlow, UK.
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:43:07 GMT

>>	Would the relevant parties please take note that this group
>>	is alt.romance and this is were things with a romantic nature
>>	are discussed, myself (and others I'm sure) don't really want
>>	to read about penis sizes etc in this group, that is what 
>>	alt.sex is for, don't go telling me about kill files because
>>	really this comes down to these articles being posted in the
>>	wrong group.

>So tell me...am I the only one tired of people saying or implying that sex
>has nothing to do with romance? Sex darn well can be very romantic! Okay,
>next question...am I the only one tired of people telling me where I can or 
>can't post about certain things? Just curious...

>Neil.

	
	1) I never said sex had nothing to do with romance!!!!
	2) What does penis size have to do with romance? (rhetorical)
	3) Romance === alt.romance.
	4) Sex == alt.sex.
	5) Penis size == alt.sex.
	6) Satisfied?

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From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 00:55:15 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <BvH94M.Ku4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert) writes:
>? Should I be looking for anything, or ask out the first
>woman I meet?

Yes.  (this isn't a joke, exactly.)
>/----------------------------------------------------------------------------\
>| Raymond L. Gilbert       | "...the present rule in computing the circle's  |
>| pi@indiana.edu           |  area is entirely wrong..."                     |
>| IUB Dept. of Physics     |  - Bill No. 246, Indiana State Legislature, 1897|

Well, at least this guy writes his own Damn sig!

Big Al.  Who has his sig written by professional sigwriters.
From: isc10045@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG MEAN CHIH)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re : Romantic Songs
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:11:10 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

my romantic songs are as follows...

	Right down the line...Gerry Rafferty
	Strangers in the night...Frank Sinatra
	Cupid...Sam Cooke
	You can do magic...America
	Love at first degree...Alabama
	As long as you follow...Fleetwood Mac
	Something stupid...???
	i go crazy...Paul Davis
	Black man ray...China Crisis(not the lyrics, but the atmosphere)
	Heart of Gold...Neil Young
	She believes in me...Kenny Rogers
	So Faraway...Dire Straits
	Heartbreaker...Dionne Warwick(sad also...)
	A time for us...Matt Monroe?
	Slow hand...The pointer sisters
	She's always a woman...Billy Joel
i think that's enough...hee.
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