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From: kay@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (k)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: New Ren And Stimpy (Info For Ppl Without Alt. Groups!)
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:12:32 GMT
Organization: Project Quantum Gweep
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From rec.arts.tv:

In article <1992Nov6.135448.1485@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu> ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes:
[six line post about the new ren n stimpy ep deleted]
>
>-- 
>      .    _  .     _____________ 
>      |\_|/__/|    /             \ 
>     / / \/ \  \  / Happy! Happy! \      
>    /__|O||O|__ \ \   Joy! Joy!   / 
>   |/_ \_/\_/ _\ | \  ___________/      
>   | | (____) | ||  |/                       
>   \/\___/\__/  // _/
>   (_/         ||   
>    |          ||\   Norman Sippel
>     \        //_/   alias Norman "Muddy" Stimpy
>      \______//      
>     __|| __||       Email: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
>    (____(____)             ngsippel@komodo.ham.muohio.edu
>          

Sigh.

k
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From: mctkew@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: RE ADRIAN BELEW
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:27:44 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

that is wonderful - I am a big fan of Adrian Belew (its nice to see that some
other Zappa fans know him aswell)

If anyone in the UK knows more about UK releases of this please mail me

I had to spend 10 UKpounds on an American import of "Desire caught by the tail"
and I dont want to spend what was 2 times normal price (in 1986(7) whenever)
again !!!!

I would also like to know how many of the people who mail to this newsgroup are
musicians I've been working out some Zappa parts by ear on guitar (do many
people do this !!) - I've mainly worked out easier stuff - "The Little House I
used to live in" and other tracks from Burnt Weeny; the keyboard solo from
Peaches III (Tinseltown Rebellion (best song on a BAD Zappa album) version) and
various small parts from Uncle Meat (more difficult)

I have also worked out some parts from Discipline (a King Crimson album with
Adrian Belew)

I find that virtually no-one is interested in the approaches to music
represtented by Zappa/Belew/Zorn/Last exit/Ornette etc school in Dundee -
(where I live yeah) - So I would like to hear from people in any other places
who know of it/ try to play it 

My approach to music tends towards the random/free jazz style of improvising
but this may change as I recently purchased a GR-1 guitar synth ( come on
Adrian Belew stylists !!) - please give me some inspirational feedback - how do
you work out things by ear !!

Thanks for reading all this rambling gibbrish !!

Ken Whelan
MCTKEW@UK.AC.DCT

"These Damned Blue Collar tweakers are runnin' this here town

Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: buzzsaw@bluemoon.use.com (Patrick Buzby)
Subject: Re: We're Only In It For The Money... remixed?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:23:05 EST

    Arthur Barrow did the bass parts on the re-mized WOIIFTM, not Scott 
Thunes.  Since I've never heard the original (too young!), I don't have 
much to say about the changes.

     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: s14258bc@UMASSD.EDU (Brian J. Colby)
Subject: Re: Ren and Stimpy episode
Reply-To: s14258bc@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:37:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct25.043509.13136@NeoSoft.com>, ghatch@NeoSoft.com (Greg Hatch) writes:
>
>Does anyone know when the Ren and Stimpy episode with Zappa's voice as the Pope
>appear?  Any help would be appreciated.

It was the Powdered Toast man episode, when Muddy Mudskipper held The Pope (voice of Zappa)
hostage.



Brian Colby (Vax: S14258BC@umassd.edu  DECstation: xanadu@cis.umassd.edu) 
     -i pi
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: RE ADRIAN BELEW
From: gvacano@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:22:08 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <101583@bu.edu>, anneklin@acs.bu.edu (Patricia Anne) writes:
> Um, well, The _CKC_ is just a compilation, and that leaves out "Beat",
> which I think may be the best of the early-80's KC (which, supposedly,
> is back together again...

	I haven't heard anything about this. Do you (or anyone else reading
this) have more info?

Guido
From: natola@coos.dartmouth.edu (Mark A. Natola)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: We're Only In It For The Money... remixed?
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:57:16 GMT
Organization: D.M.S. Section of Neurology

In article <1992Nov13.150823.28546@cc.tut.fi> vinksu@aloysius.ee.tut.fi (Vinksu Chandrasekhar) writes:
>From: vinksu@aloysius.ee.tut.fi (Vinksu Chandrasekhar)
>Subject: Re: We're Only In It For The Money... remixed?
>Date: 13 Nov 92 15:08:23 GMT


>From article <BxnDMt.38F@sci.kun.nl>, by jc@sci.kun.nl (Jan Christiaan van Winkel):
>> In <RABIN.92Nov12101120@nuthatch.CS.Yale.Edu> rabin@CS.Yale.Edu (Dan Rabin) writes:
>> 
>>>I really miss the neat little sound effect that introduced the reprise
>>>of `What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body' on the old version.  
>> 
>> And how's about the ``it's okay honey, you can come out of the closet now'' 
>> line that was removed from the CD version.

>I only know the CD version. I would like to know, in detail if possible, WHAT
>was removed from the original? What was changed? And I would like to know,
>why everyone thinks the CD version sounds bad compared to the original. It
>would be logical to think that drums & bass sound better...

>To be honest, the early MOI don't play too good. And the recording technology
>of 60's is nothing worth of conserving. Would you listen to, say, Beethoven's
>5th recorded in 30's? There's nothing wrong to rerecord the music, if you do it
>with good taste. (In general FZ has good taste.)

>The sound quality is, whether we like it or not, one of the most important
>things when listening to music. That's why I like 'Jazz From Hell' so much...
>Everything must be as clear as possible. Everything must be close to perfect.

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After listening to the vinyl version of Franks stuff for years, the CD's 
in question just sound different.  That doesn't make them better or worse.  
I have probably played the WOIIFTM LP a couple hundred times since I was a 
kid.  The CD version not only has different drums/bass, but it sounds to me 
as if it has been totally remixed.  Vocals now have a different quality, and 
some of the other instruments seem to be more prominant in the mix.  I 
actually like the CD version, but do prefer the original.  Who knows, maybe 
Frank will put out another version with the original bass and drum tracks, 
as well as a remix of the vocals etc...

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: dlovell@elec.uq.oz.au (David Lovell)
Subject: Mr Belew's Re-released Musical Bon-bons
Keywords: Rhino
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:34:56 GMT

Just in case any of you readers are fond of music which runs parallel
to Mr Zappa's, ex-Zappa--King-Crimson--David-Bowie  band(s) guitarist,
Adrian Belew, has re-released a remixed, retitled recording of selected
tasties from his first three albums, namely: Lone Rhino, Twang Bar King
and Desire Caught by the Tail. The title of this new compilation is Desire of
the Rhino King and it is distributed (here in Australia, at any rate) by
Island Records.

What's it like? Well, the first 2/3 of the album is reasonably accessable
to normal people but fans of FZ will probably enjoy it a whole lot more. Great
arrangements abound as do highly FX'ed guitar bits (Belew plays a fretless
stratocaster (ie not a bass) on the track Big Electric Cat which is worth the
effort to get to hear. Incidentally, the name of that track came from a
conversation (?) Belew had (or maybe he just heard about) with this chap who
refused to say anything but "Big Electric Cat, Big Electric Cat...").

The last 1/3 is a lot like Zappa's synclavier work (except that it's more
guitar and guitar synth oriented).

For my money, anyone who can make a lyric like "..you have the paraphernalic
regalia of an athletics supporter" sound funky, deserves at least one listen.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (WE'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALL HERE)
Subject: Re: Maybe we won't miss Dan so much...
Summary: Tastless Fascist in the White House!  
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:32:05 GMT

In article <14641.2b019e74@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu                          writes...
>In article <jberger.43.0@novell.com>, jberger@novell.com (John Berger) writes:
>> In article <92Nov11.120132est.24@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
>>>there's no need for Metallica or Guns 'N Roses, Tipper is a Deadhead,
>>>she must have Grateful Dead CDs with her in the woods.  
>> 
>> No REAL deadhead would carry CD's -- they'd have TAPES!  Lots 'n' lots of 
>> TAPES!
> 
>You're all wrong. Tipper likes Frank Zappa, Prince, Sheena Easton, Captain
>and Teneil to name a few!
> 
>-Garrett
> 
GOOD LORD! WHAT HAVE WE DONE!

>>>>|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
>>>
Garrett@Ingres.com
From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:59:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Playground Psychotics, etc.
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa

>      Billy the Mountain is ok, I esspecially enjoyed the other musical
>      tracks like Concentration Moon, (I still haven't read Kafka's Penal
>      Colony story related to that song as FZ suggests on the liner notes
>      from the original We're Only In It For The Money).

The liner notes that refer to "In the Penal Colony" are for the song
"The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny", *not* "Concentration Moon".

I suggest you read the story. Frightening and appropriate.

			-- Chan
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Ren and Stimpy episode
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:16:35 GMT
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Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <Bx81y0.GtI@umassd.edu>
s14258bc@UMASSD.EDU (Brian J. Colby) writes:

> In article <1992Oct25.043509.13136@NeoSoft.com>, ghatch@NeoSoft.com (Greg Hatch) writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know when the Ren and Stimpy episode with Zappa's voice as the Pope
> >appear?  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> It was the Powdered Toast man episode, when Muddy Mudskipper held The Pope (voice of Zappa)
> hostage.
> 
Unfortunately, unless you know some one who has it on tape, you may
never have the opportunity to see it as Nick ran the episode once and
it has never been seen again.  Word (rumor) has it that Nick received
alot of complaints about how offensive the cartoon was so they put it
on the shelf.  For those of you who know of Ren & Stimpy, but haven't
been following events revolving around the show, Nick has fired
creator, writer, director, etc, etc, John Kricsfaluci (sp?) for not
meeting deadlines. For more information about R&S and Zappa as the
pope, see alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy.  

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: REEKES@applelink.apple.com (Jim Reekes)
Subject: Re: RE ADRIAN BELEW
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:26:01 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: alt.fan.frank-zappa

In article <1992Nov6.162744.1132@dct.ac.uk>, mctkew@dct.ac.uk wrote:
> 
> that is wonderful - I am a big fan of Adrian Belew (its nice to see that some
> other Zappa fans know him aswell)
> 
> If anyone in the UK knows more about UK releases of this please mail me
> 
> I had to spend 10 UKpounds on an American import of "Desire caught by the tail"
> and I dont want to spend what was 2 times normal price (in 1986(7) whenever)
> again !!!!

Here's some recommendations.

Group                         Title                         Year
_________________________________________________________________
Belew, Adrian                 Lone Rhino                    82
Bowie, David                  Stage                         78
Byrne, David                  The Catherine Wheel           81
Harrison, Jerry               Red And The Black             81
Jarre, Jean Michel            Zoolook                       84
King Crimson                  Disipline                     81
King Crimson                  Three Of A Perfect Pair       84
King Crimson                  The Compact King Crimson      89
Oldfield, Mike                Earth Moving                  89
Sakamoto & Scott              Once In a Lifetime            82
Zappa, Frank                  Tiny Nightmares II            77 boot leg
Zappa, Frank                  Leatherette                   78 boot leg
Zappa, Frank                  Sheik Yerbouti                79
Zappa, Frank                  You Can't Do That On Stage I  88


> I would also like to know how many of the people who mail to this newsgroup are
> musicians I've been working out some Zappa parts by ear on guitar (do many
> people do this !!) - I've mainly worked out easier stuff - "The Little House I

Why don't you just by the Zappa guitar book?  It's about an inch thick (uh,
about 2.5cm, right?) and contains nothing but the guitar parts.

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From: natola@coos.dartmouth.edu (Mark A. Natola)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: We're Only In It For The Money... remixed?
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:49:23 GMT
Organization: D.M.S. Section of Neurology

In article <1992Nov12.040720.29239@cs.wisc.edu> orf@ssec.wisc.edu (Leigh Orf) writes:
>From: orf@ssec.wisc.edu (Leigh Orf)
>Subject: We're Only In It For The Money... remixed?
>Date: 12 Nov 92 04:07:20 GMT

>Hi all...

>Just getting through with my first listen to the Ryko CD _We're Only In It
>For The Money_ and it sounds to me like the drum parts are much more modern
>than 1967. Did Zappa actually lay down new drum parts sometime (I'd guess)
>in the mid eighties? Kindof a bummer if that is the case... if not, quite
>groundbreaking drummin IMO!

>-*-
>orf
Zappa re-recorded the drum and bass parts on WOIIFTM and Ruben and the Jets 
during the 80's because the master tapes had deteriorated badly (the oxide 
was falling off the tapes).  I recently read that somehow he has been able 
to spiff them up again, and the original mixes of those albums will be re-
released on CD again in the future (for the fetishists).  So, get your bucks 
up!

Mark
From: anneklin@acs.bu.edu (Patricia Anne)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Mr Belew's Re-released Musical Bon-bons
Keywords: Rhino
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:22:59 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <dlovell.720952496@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> dlovell@elec.uq.oz.au (David Lovell) writes:
>Just in case any of you readers are fond of music which runs parallel
>to Mr Zappa's, ex-Zappa--King-Crimson--David-Bowie  band(s) guitarist,
>Adrian Belew, has re-released a remixed, retitled recording of selected
>tasties from his first three albums, namely: Lone Rhino, Twang Bar King
>and Desire Caught by the Tail. The title of this new compilation is Desire of
>the Rhino King and it is distributed (here in Australia, at any rate) by
>Island Records.

The annoying thing is, this seems to be Island's cheap move to get out of
actually reissuing all three albums.  Don't they claim on the cover
that they material has never been issued on CD before?  I'm annoyed
because I've *got* _Desire caught by the tail_, and want to get the
actual releases of the other two albums, but it looks like Island's
going to skimp and not issue them in their entirety.  Annoying.  Where's
Rykodisc when you need them?

Mike Dorman.
From: anneklin@acs.bu.edu (Patricia Anne)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: RE ADRIAN BELEW
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:41:55 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <REEKES-091192181942@90.10.20.67> REEKES@applelink.apple.com (Jim Re
ekes) writes:
>
>Group                         Title                         Year
>_________________________________________________________________
>Bowie, David                  Stage                         78

I though he did "Lodger" with Bowie...in fact, I'm sure he did.  Is this
in addition to "Stage"?

>King Crimson                  Disipline                     81
>King Crimson                  Three Of A Perfect Pair       84
>King Crimson                  The Compact King Crimson      89

Um, well, The _CKC_ is just a compilation, and that leaves out "Beat",
which I think may be the best of the early-80's KC (which, supposedly,
is back together again...

Oh, and he's also had little parts on songs on Paul Simon's last two
albums, and a lot of other stuff--while I was on GEnie, someone
posted a near-complete list of his stuff, but I lost it somewhere...

Later,
From: Doug_Mitchell@next.com (Doug Mitchell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Where are they now? Did they all take the vow?
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:56:06 GMT
Reply-To: Doug_Mitchell@next.com

In article <dlovell.720259544@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> dlovell@elec.uq.oz.au  
(David Lovell) writes:
> Just so this is a fair exchange of FZ rhythm trivia - listen out for 
> Vinnie Coliauta ripping into 5/8 in Little Green Rosetta after FZ says
> "Where's five, Vinnie?" (or something like that).
> 

Actually, what Vinnie is doing is way more difficult than that. He's  
hitting 5 against a steady beat of 4/4 (a quintuplet). That is, 5 evenly  
spaced notes in 4 beats. I've never met anyone who can do that. 3 against  
two is easy, 4 against 3 takes a while to get right. But 5 against  
4...whoa!

--dpm

----------------------
doug_mitchell@next.com

"Don't give me any of that 'intelligent life' crap.
Give me something I can BLOW UP!"
From: sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: RE ADRIAN BELEW
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Date: 10 Nov 1992 10:28:20 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <REEKES-091192181942@90.10.20.67> REEKES@applelink.apple.com
 (Jim Reekes) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.162744.1132@dct.ac.uk>, mctkew@dct.ac.uk wrote:
>> 
>> that is wonderful - I am a big fan of Adrian Belew 
>
>Here's some recommendations.
>
>Group                         Title                         Year
>_________________________________________________________________
>Belew, Adrian                 Lone Rhino                    82
>Bowie, David                  Stage                         78
>Byrne, David                  The Catherine Wheel           81
>Harrison, Jerry               Red And The Black             81
>Jarre, Jean Michel            Zoolook                       84
>King Crimson                  Disipline                     81
>King Crimson                  Three Of A Perfect Pair       84
>King Crimson                  The Compact King Crimson      89
>Oldfield, Mike                Earth Moving                  89
>Sakamoto & Scott              Once In a Lifetime            82
>Zappa, Frank                  Tiny Nightmares II            77 boot leg
>Zappa, Frank                  Leatherette                   78 boot leg
>Zappa, Frank                  Sheik Yerbouti                79
>Zappa, Frank                  You Can't Do That On Stage I  88


        Some additions (at least in the U.S.) to this: 

Armatrading, Joan (w/ Tony Levin)       The Key
Bears, The (w/ former Raisins) 
Bowie, David                            Lodger
Raisins, The                            Adrian produced at least one of
                                        their records (out of print)

Talking Heads                           Fear of Music
Talking Heads                           Remain in Light
Zappa, Frank                            Baby Snakes (video)

        Did Adrian play on the Byrne/Eno "Bush of Ghosts" album?

        We now return to your regularly scheduled Zappa program.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: PLAYGROUND PSYCHOTICS details [long].
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:30:28 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <Bx7GHJ.MKr@clss1.bangor.ac.uk> mather@sees.bangor.ac.uk (Paul Mather) writes:

>I like to think of PLAYGROUND PSYCHOTICS as a kind of unofficial YOU
>CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE #7---THE FLO AND EDDIE YEARS. :-)  


Make that #9.  

Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life is #7
and Make A Jazz Noise Here is #8
(unofficially).

-- 
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From: jayceem@pike.ee.mcgill.ca (Jean-Charles Maillet)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Ren and Stimpy episode
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:37:07 GMT
Organization: McGill University - VLSI Laboratory, Montreal, CANADA.
Originator: jayceem@intrepid


> 
> Brian Colby (Vax: S14258BC@umassd.edu  DECstation: xanadu@cis.umassd.edu) 
>      -i pi
> "If e     = -1, then God must exist!"  Leonhard Euler 
  
    Dude !! old Leonhard also had 1-1+1-1+1-... converging to 1/2.

Now that's a real poncho ... (who cares about 16/9 anyway ??? ... )
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa