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From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re:zange-tafreeh ( slight correction ) [sci-poster]
Date: 19 Nov 1992 00:02:45 GMT
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mack@isl.stanford.edu writes is ZANGE TAFREEH
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Dear Big Mac
You have misspelled HEYRAN. It is spelled with HE-YE-JEEMEE as in
HEYVAN (aka. Mack). I enjoyed the poem though, keep up the good
work.

a secretive but not an ignorant fellow countryman



 
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 21 Nov 1992 11:06:49 CST
From: Fardad         <U33720@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Phone # changes in TERHRAN!!!!!


Salam Doustan;

I had been trying too call my parents(@tehran) fodays I kept getting
busy signal. Finally one of the long distance operators suggested talking
to an operator from TEHRAN, he told us:

              - A LOT OF PHONE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN CHANGED

              - IN MY CASE  427(1st 3 digits) WAS CHANGED TO  227

I hope this help you if you have problems.
Fardad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Re: Sale of Spy Satellite to United Arab Emirates.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:00:06 GMT

In article <sehari.722154911@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>----
>
>Wall Street Journal Wednesday Nov. 18th , 1992.  Midwest Edition 
>
>"The State Department said  the U.S. is weighing the sale of a spy satellite
>to the United Arab Emirates, the first time such a sensitive piece of
>equipment has been considered for sale to a foreign government.  
>Administration officials said U.S. agencies are sharply divided over the 
>proposal."
>
>-- 


I don't think the spy satellite is for the sake of Arabs. They(usa) offer this
because U.S. interest is in danger. I don't think they really care of those
Arabs. 

Arabs...... the world would be a safer place without them. Just the deep 
thought..... 

I can't believe I said that.


Amir

 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sassan@locus.com (Sassan Behzadi)
Subject: Re: Who speaks for sci? (Re: loonies on the loose)
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:21:04 GMT


Hi Hooshyar. 

Thanks for your response. Thoughful as usual!  You write:

>What we have read so far, and continue to read in the near future, _IS_
>soc.culture.iranian. 

Let me disagree with you on this very basic idea. Although the 
character shown by many on this newsgroup has been typically Iranian, 
the medium itself (USENET) is not. SCI is different from any other 
Iranian community. It's the only Iranian 'club' whose membership can 
be obtained at will - by anyone. No questions asked, no political 
(or religious) oaths taken. I know of no other Iranian organization 
(at home or abroad) that includes so many Iranians of such diverese 
political and religious beliefs.  I agree with you that, as Iranians, 
we've been brought up to 'love' our own beliefs and 'hate' the beliefs 
of others. We've all been taught (by our rulers/elders/parents) about 
the 'real truth'. We have the world figured out and we can't understand 
why some people don't see things our way. We simply don't know how to 
deal with people that we don't agree with (or people who don't agree 
with us). And before SCI we never had to. 

SCI provides us with a unique experience. A chance to come face to 
face with different people and different ideas. I, for one, have 
learned more - on this net - from people I disagree with than those 
I agree with. In the face of this opportunity (which may never again 
present itself) should we act our typical Iranian-self: yell, ridicule, 
use profanity and threaten, or should we do something we never learned 
to do well? ... Listen.

I agree with you. The problem isn't with religious discussions.
But rather with discussions carried out religiously. We have a chance
to listen, learn and discuss, but we just yell, yell and yell.

--Sassan

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sharam@cc.uow.edu.au (sharam hekmatpour)
Subject: Re: Ms King real name (The Jews)
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 05:10:11 GMT

scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk ("M.G") writes:

>and I think HITLER was right when he said that they are like a cancer
>in a body and should be removed.
>       ** WHERE EVER WHEN EVER THERE ARE SUFFERING **
>** AND MASS KILLING YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE JEWS BEHIND IT**

You, Mr MG, or whatever your name is, exhibit the sadest case of inability
to conduct a meaningful argument, over and above your prejudice and bad taste
for dogma.

Your gross generalizations make me sick. If you cannot argue in a civilized
manner, then please keep your peace. This newsgroup is a forum for
discussion, not for slander and slogan. Rest assured that most of us relatively
quiet SCI readers find your attitude immature and laughable.

Sharam

PS. If you're so impressed by Hitler's ideology, why don't you go and
join the Neo-Nazis? Couldn't it be because they would beat the hell out of
you and treat you the way they treat all other auslanders?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi)
Subject: Re: Meeting on high tech. import to iran???
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:52:43 GMT


In article : <92326.111308U33720@uicvm.uic.edu><U33720@uicvm.uic.edu>
(Fardad) writes:

>Hello friends;

   Hello,

> Does any one know about the decisions/proccedings of the meeting recently
>held in Germany by U.S. , FRANCE, ... to discuss High tech. exports of
>Japan and Germany to IRAN?

   The only thing I've heard both on CNN Headline News and Mcniel/Lehrer
   news was that the US is pushing those countries to " CURB the transfer
   of technologies, used for CIVILIAN and military purposes".

>Fardad


Mohammad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: !!!!!!!!!!Satan.!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:13 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

 You know I was wondering, why don't we all give a little history about
ourselves? If everyone agrees, then I'll be the first.

P.S.
 Regarding that last Farsi letter program, 

  I'm having problems compiling it, could somebody send me a version 
 that is .zip, .exe, or .uue.

 Thanks.

Satan.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul)
Subject: Re: Deep Racism (was Re: Sale of Spy Satellite to ...
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:18:36 GMT

   I don't give a damn about Arabism, but I am an Arab and thankful
therefor. I recognise that the percentage of garbage is equally 
high in all races.

In <By0q0K.9I1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

" Ask most Arabs.  They are going to tell you the same thing.
" I have a Palestinian friend who is fet up with all Arabism.
" He is NO PROUD for being an Arab.  Lebaneese are mostly the same.

   Your friend may be as well disgraced for being a human being if it 
(the friend) is really one. It may long back to its donkey origins. We,
Arabs, are offended that such a creature attributes itself to us.
But, behold, we have many of its brand in the Arab world. Their only
use (although they are even poor at it) is moving targets for live
military training. Then their bodies should be given away to vet 
schools.
   It is such creatures that make their species like Hussein, Fahd,
Khomainy and others rule over humans.

" Better be a Khomeini appologist than a Saddam appologist.

   Talk about comparing garbage with trash.

" U_c

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Ms(Mr)King (the jews)
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:11:05 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

In article <1992Nov20.093415.1@v2.cgu.mcc.ac.uk> zzaaskk@v2.cgu.mcc.ac.uk writes:
[ ... ]

>Well he was talking about Lebanese People killed , prisond, maimed by the 
>Israelis. I think is of interest to the Lebanese. Should not we be screaming
>our heads off for their sake. Or is it just the life, blood, and anguish of
>westerners, and and zionists of value in this world? 

Well, if he was engaging in a discussion in SCI and he wished to cite our
sufferings in his arguments, I don't understand why we should get a copy of his
post. I don't understand how it is of the intrest of the Lebanese that we 
should get a copy of every post that contains some reference to the Lebanon or
its people. Is it more information he is giving us or was he expecting somebody 
should follow his track and send an article to help him?

And here you are dodging the issue. I did not say that we should ignore the 
of the Lebanese prisoners and I did not say that the lives of the others are
more important than ours. And I did not say that we should prevent the people
from mentioning us or support our fair cause. What I am saying is that we should
not be USED here and there. Remember that we were alone and we are still alone 
facing our circumstances. Where are these thousands of tanks, aircraft, the
millions of brothers who all vocally support us? They even failed to 
demonstrate to deplore what has been happening. It is a sick joke to beleive
that he cares about us.

>
>The lives of the Lebanese and their properties are more important then any
>thing else. Not even the constitutional reformes which all is doing is to
>try and find a new way of slicing the cake. Or the disscusion of Is Jesus 
>the son of God or not? 
>                      
Because we did not have a good consitution and a strong country, we, Lebanese
are suffering and enduring the present miserable conditions and many of the 
Lebanese have endede up in AL KHYAM.
It is not therefore a useless thing to do if we are trying to see why we are 
in such a mess.

And at the end,
not you and neither M.G., are more Lebanese than I am, and neither yourself
nor him have paid more than myself or my family in these conditions.
So stop being overzealot and spare me lectures on what I should be doing and 
what I should not do for my country.
>> 
>> I. Ballouz
>> -- 
>
>
>Kamie

I. Ballouz

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bahman@ee.umanitoba.ca (Bahman S Kermanshahi)
Subject: Ghotba jan, Hooshi aziz va Faloodeh?
Reply-To: bahman@ee.umanitoba.ca
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:07:19 GMT


Selam Hooshi jan,

Holat chetorast pesar, Holo naderes mirvi fAloodeh va makhloot noosh jan
mikoni va tArifash ra bara-ye ma miAvari. Bashad, Bashad in ast rasm
lootigari naderes tamam alam. Khoda besar shohed ast del-e shakhs banda
bara-ye fAloodeh enghadar shodeh. Alon shayad ye hamchin 10-15 sali ast ke
shakhs bandah va Ghodsi va Gholi va Ghasem va Roghi va Soghi ro-ye fAloodeh ra nadidim.

Vaghti esm fAloodeh ra bordi, khoda besar shohed posht hamin SUN
Ab az lab-o-louche Ghoti jan sarazir shodeh bood va tamam keyboard ra
fra gerefte bood.

Albat shakhs banda heech Alaghe-ee be origin-e fAloodeh nadaram,
naderes faghat tarze dorost kardanesh ra be Ghoti jan begu gher-gher-e
Ghotba jan.

Munes va Antar mohtaram-e eeshan agha-ye Makhmal khan ham selam miresanand.


Official Ghotba of SCI and proud of it!!!
From: hatamian@gandalf.rutgers.edu (ShAhin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Announcing Gerdsooz!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:38:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I tested it and I love it. Fabulous job and thanks for sharing this wonderful
package with us. 

ShAhin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: ladaily@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Laura A Daily)
Subject: This is only a ......
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:14:23 GMT

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:10193 soc.culture.arabic:5048 soc.culture.lebanon:5147
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:28:29 EST
From: andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Ms(Mr)King (the jews)
 <92324.191121U38065@uicvm.uic.edu>

In article <92324.191121U38065@uicvm.uic.edu>, Nasri <U38065@uicvm.uic.edu>
says:
>
>Mr Sokol was talking about democratization of 'despotic regimes', I have a
>ques
>tion.  Would the South African regime be despotic ??
>
>If yes, how do you explain the close ties between Israel and South Africa ?
>or other 'non'despotic' regimes in South America ?

You've forgotten about the close ties between Arabic countries and South Africa
(where did you think South Africa got it's oil from anyway?)

>
>
>
>Nasri
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>|        La valeur n'attend point le nombre des annees.                 |
>|                                                 LE CID (DON RODRIGUE) |
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Gerd (Re: chAleh meydoon)
Organization: gerdali
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:31:41 GMT

In article <amoojoon.158@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh> amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed) writes:
>
>SalAm bar ahAliyeh chAleh meydoon,

salAm amoojoon!

[Discussion about chAleh meydoon deleted for brevity]

>.  .  .  . Many of our favorite things in life are also "gerd"; 
>most fruits are either in that shape or a slight modification of it (such 
>as "beyzi", "ostovAneh", etc.).
>Our own FArsi expressions utilize the concept in various ways. We do 
>"gerdeh ham Ayee"s, we say let's "doreh ham jam shaveem", or let's have a 
>"doreh". All those terms imply the same concept, "dAyereh". 
.
.
.
>.  .  . Seems to me that the smallest particles are also "gerd". Whatever I
> have read in the past about the structural units of molecules, cells, and 
>atoms also seem to have something to do with this concept. What is about 
>being "gerd" that is so unique?                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What a fascinating [(c) Mr. Spock, ~65] observation, amoojoon.  It seems
to me we humans are attracted to the concept of roundity [(c) bavafa, 92].
Everthing round is one phenomenon that we have adopted from nature.  You
already cited several natural objects (ie, not made my humankind) that
suggest that 'roundedness' has been there long time before we were created
on this planet.  But, this does not end the beauty of gerdally discussing!

Let me share one view, if I may:  How about the concpet of perfection or
'kamAl?'  Never mind my FArsi doostAn, let's try to translate this word. :-)
If we accept dAyereh is really the most perfect object that we know today,
then we might consequently ask what is the message hidden in things being
round, at least from our limited understanding of the universe - of course
if we believe that there ought to be a message.

I say EQUALITY and UNITY.

Now the trivial:  They say one of the FAQ's during an interview at the
Microsoft HQ is (I read it in a magazine article about Microsoft and Bill
Gates) "Why are sewer manholes on streets cicular and not square?"

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056

PS.  Amoo when I took off my eyes from my monitor to look around (per your
suggestion), the first thing I saw was my football (ok, soccer) ball at
the corner.  'ajab!  An niz gerd ast.'

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mhz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mariam Hakim-Zargar)
Subject: Re: Phone # changes in TERHRAN!!!!!
Reply-To: MHz@nwu.edu (Mariam Hakim-Zargar)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:01:15 GMT

In article <92326.110649U33720@uicvm.uic.edu> of soc.culture.iranian,
  Fardad         <U33720@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> 
> Salam Doustan;
> 
> I had been trying too call my parents(@tehran) fodays I kept getting
> busy signal. Finally one of the long distance operators suggested talking
> to an operator from TEHRAN, he told us:
> 
>               - A LOT OF PHONE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN CHANGED
> 
>               - IN MY CASE  427(1st 3 digits) WAS CHANGED TO  227
> 
> I hope this help you if you have problems.
> Fardad


Yes... and for those in Mashhad, the numbers were changed in teh following way
(as  I've been told this applies to the whole city):

Old number:   ABCDE
New number:  80BCDE

(meaning:  Take off the first digit fo your old phone number, and add 80 to
the remaining digits.)

			MHz
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:21:34 EST
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject:    Looking for an old friend


 Subject :  Soheila Hosseini
 Last seen: Laguna Neiguel(sp), Ca
 Code : "chekharesh mekoni!"
 At large : since Summer of 89
 Nick name : Stef.
 Call : (703) 573-1014 or reply directly by e-mail
 Caution: dangerous/gorgeous

 much appreciated,

 RezA
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: -None supplied- [sci-poster]
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:42:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxx7r2.K00
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

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This is my sentence.
Who dared to use it without honoring my copy right.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.turkish
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Russian-made submarine joins Iranian navy 
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:28:38 GMT



	ATHENS, Greece (UPI) -- A submarine Iran purchased recently from
Russia has entered the Gulf and joined the Iranian navy at a ceremony
Monday, Tehran radio said.
	The purchase of the submarine caused concern in the West, and the
United States deployed its attack submarine Topeka in the Gulf days
ahead of the arrival of the Russian-made vessel.
	A Tehran radio dispatch monitored in Athens said the Russian-made
submarine ``joined the Navy of the Islamic Republic of Iran at a special
ceremony in Bandar Abbas,'' an Iranian naval base in the Strait of
Hormuz.
	A radio reporter in Bandar Abbas quoted an Iranian naval commander as
saying the purchase of the submarine was ``part of a plan of the supreme
commander to boost the defense capabilities of the Islamic Republic.''
	``What we are doing does not have expansionist aims,'' he said,
adding that Iran was simply trying to arms itself with modern weapons 
``to raise our defense capabilities.''
	The Russian-made submarine would give Iran the capability to defend
its offshore oil rigs in the Gulf, he said.
	During the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, U.S. naval forces attacked and
destroyed Iranian oil rigs in the Gulf.
	Earlier during the war, the United States boosted its naval presense
in the Gulf to protect Kuwaiti oil tankers from attack by Iranian
revolutionary guards using small but fast-moving vessels to attack oil
tankers.
	Last week, Iranian President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani charged the
Western media with becoming unduly concerned about the purchase by Iran
of two submarines from Russia.
	He said the Western media remained silent when Israel made large arms
purchases, but ``make a commotion over (Iran's) purchase of submarines,
which they claim would tip the balance of power in the region.''


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Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:38:58 GMT
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