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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Subject: Re: What is 'letterbox'?
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:51:38 GMT

>
>>	Seems to me "lebeld" is describing the old boxed set (the one with
>>the 3 Pan and Scan versions).  The letterboxed edition comes in a big box
>>with a hologram  on the front and goes for about $99 US.
>
>	Ok... It isn't this version so. How can I get it, in Canada? Does
>it worth the price; those the quality is much better than the ordinary
>versions? VHS-speaking of course... 8-] I do not have the chance to
>have a laser-disq player...
>

As I am one who just recently watched Pan&Scan and compared it to Letterbox,
Letterbox is much better.  It is worth the price you pay for it.  Apparantly
they went back to the original movies and copied them over.  The result is
a picture that is superior to the P&S.  It looks like the movie was made
yesterday, not in 1977.  


And now that exams are over I get to watch them anytime! :)

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From: obrien@bu-bio.bu.edu (Todd O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Have any of you star wars fans seen my wife .. (Re: Why don't you star
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:19:30 GMT
Organization: Biology Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Remember the flame post "Why don't you star wars fans get a life!"

It was actually a typo.  The guy actually meant to ask 

	"Have any of you star wars fans seen my wife!"

I guess she ran away from him because she couldn't stand him anymore ... (as if
it isn't obviously why, based on our impressions of his "personality").  
Anyway, somebody said his wife ran off with "Wookie", so he thought Chewbacca. 
That's why he started flaming us!

The FUNNY part is that his wife ACTUALLY ran off with "Cookie" (as in Cookie 
Monster).  You should SEE the flame he wrote in Rec.arts.Sesame_Street.

(Poor Snuffy ... he's SO nice, and yet this guy had so many BAD things to
say about him.  And so what if Ernie and Bert are gay lovers!)

Oh well.  It just goes to show that a little mis-understanding can go a
long way.

:)
From: shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:03:49 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1gg9rcINN3bv@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> brylowdw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Dennis W Brylow) writes:

>I think that the Super Star Destroyers were about 6 miles long (8 km).
>The *Imperial* class Star Destroyers were supposed to be about a fifth as  
>large, around 1.6 kilometers.  (Between one and two miles long.)

6 miles       = 10 km
8 km          = 5 miles 
1.6 kilometer = 1 mile 

(rounded off, but actually quite close)

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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: I read ALL the posts!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:33:22 GMT

I did it!  It took me 2 days, but I read through all 753 posts!!! I
know EVERYTHING!!!  bwahahahaha!!!


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu


so I'm done with finals, sue me!
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From: lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca (Bradley Larsen u)
Subject: Re: why don't all you star wars fans get a life -- Some new ?'s
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:14:03 GMT

I am tired of reading all the crap about the lunitic who wrote this so I'll
post some new questions.

In TESB, why the heck does Vader torture Solo?  Even Solo himself says they
didn't ask him any questions.

In ROTJ don't you think Leia and Luke should have been a little more 'banged
up' after they fall off their speeder bikes?  If I remember correctly the
speeder bike can travel up to 200 mph (or 200 kmh? can't remember the units)
Even if they were travelling at half the speed its likely they would've been
killed.  

In ANH, is Greedo considered to be a bounty hunter or just one of Jabba's
'henchmen'?

In ROTJ, Luke struggles vainly to get Vader to the shuttle at the end of the
movie.  Why didn't he use the force to levitate him to the ship?

In TESB, who is this Hobby that Luke keeps referring to during the
snowspeeder scenes?  He's obviously must be a pilot, but why is he cut from
the film?

In ANH, how does Porkins (Red 9?) die?  It is just a malfunction in his ship
or did he get caught in some sort of magnetic field?

Well, I hope these will keep the group busy for a while so we don't have to
continously read the replies to what Mr. Star Wars fans get a life posted.
 

Flames Welcomed!

Brad Larsen
lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca

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From: kachun@spot.Colorado.EDU (Ka Chun Yu)
Subject: SW actors in other roles (was Re: "why don't...)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:47:53 GMT

In article <1gh0b5INN8ag@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>In article <Bz81F4.LG6@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson) writes:
>>
>>Don't forget that the actor who played Admiral Piett appeared in the Terry 
>>Gilliam movie, "Jabberwocky".  If you've never seen it, and like Monty Python,
>>or enjoyed fish called Wanda, or Fisher KIng, I suggest it.(or even Brazil, if
>>you have the time to watch it a few times to understand it.)
>
>What about Porkins?  He later went to become Lt. Eckhart in "BATMAN"...
>...it's true people.

That does it!  Isn't anyone going to start compiling all of the appearances
of SW bit players in other movies?  We've got Piett and Porkins.  What about
the others?  Red Four?  Bib Fortuna?  Biggs?  Dengar?  The "You rebel scum"
guy?


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From: darkstar@mocha.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy)
Subject: Re: Star Wars vs. ____________.
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Summary: More Madness
Keywords: Space Family Robinson, HAL9000, Cryton, Twiki, et. al.
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: all cross overs...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:26:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.151759.25782@udel.edu> bragg@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Aquatic Joe) writes:
>
>
>	With all these Star Wars vs. _______ postings of late, I noticed
>that there are some battles that we've been overlooking...  So instead
>of the hackneyed Star Wars vs. Star Trek vs. Galactica (those losers
>couldn't even find their home...what makes you think they could fight
>any intellegent villians!) here's some of battles that would be truly
>titanic!
>
>		Star Wars vs.  Space Familiy Robinson
>			(C3PO vs. The Family Robot)
>
>		Star Wars v. Pigs in Space (wait that DID happen--sorry)
>
>		R2D2 v. HAL9000
>			(R2...what do you think you're doing R2...)
>		
>		IG-88 v. Robbie the Robot
>			(why not?  Robbie the Robot has been in
>			 everything else!)
>
>		Those Mouse Droids on Death Stars and Star Destroyers
>		vs.  Turbo RC Racers (with 9.6V rechargable battery)		
>
>	Well that's enough to get started...what do you think?
>
>
>-- 
>Adam Bragg                  | 
>bragg@freezer.cns.udel.edu  |      Please let go of my cape...
>darkwing@ravel.udel.edu     |                           -Batman
>                          SPOON!



Well, how about:

	Darth Vader's Respirator vs. The Exhaust System On
				     My '83 Renault Alliance		

	Or what about Star Wars vs. Space 1999

	Or better yet, Luke vs. Mork


	--Jerry



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From: knecht@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (knecht roland)
Subject: Widescreen in UK?
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:13:20 GMT


Hi there!

One question from a lonely swiss star wars fan:

Are the widescreen-videos aviable in the UK (VHS-Pal)?
A friend of mine will go to london soon, and I want him to buy the tapes
for me.

Can anyone give me the prices (if aviable)?

Thanks!
Roland.

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From: jwalsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Jason Walsh  )
Subject: Re: Favorite SW Moments
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:53:54 GMT

For me there are so many moments in the trilogy I don't think I could
think of any one favorite moment.  There are some scenes I find really
cool though:

In ANH.  When Han blows up the final TIE fighter during the escape
from the DS, I had some kind of poster of that explosion when I was
a kid.  Also the scene where Threepio thinks that the "gang" is
being crushed in the trash compactor.

In TESB.  I really like the Bounty Hunter scene and the scene where
Luke is leaving Dagobah and Ben and Yoda are talking, the light
turns red as Luke takes off, when it lightens up again Ben 
has dissapeared..." No! There is another"

In ROTJ.  The final stage of the Lightsaber battle when Luke
is charging Vader with the choir music in the background.  This
is probably my favorite part of the Trilogy.

Just my $0.02 (Cdn),
Jason Walsh
jwalsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
 
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From: HDW@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (H D WALDEN)
Subject: Re: Current SW?
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:44:10 GMT
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In <11DEC92111046@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu> dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu writes:

> In article <92345.193604DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
> > ----- Folks, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble here, but
> >    Star Wars is not meant to be taking place in our past.  The
> >    usage of the phrase "a long, long time ago" is not in reference
> >    to our real-world present time; it implies that the narrator
> >    is a person living in some post-StarWars era.  This concept
> >    might be kind of hard for some people to grasp, but think
> >    about it for a while.


	I disagree. If you take a minute to think about the government that 
ruled during the period that SW took place, you'll find that it's seems  
something from the past. Let's see...there was an empire & a rebellion....
sounds like something straight out of a standard ancient history textbook.That's
not the kind of government we see today in a developed society--more like in a 
very primitive one. ( Does anyone understand what I'm getting at?)

	The force is with you, young Skywalker. But you are not a Jedi yet.
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Splinter of a Mind's Eye
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:43:35 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec16.110915.2216@nuscc.nus.sg> law30056@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KEN HWEE) writes:
>Wasn't Vader killed or thrown into a bottomless pit or something in
>Splinter of the Mind's Eye?
>
If I remember right, one of them looks down in the pit and states that he's
still alive, that they can "feel" him.  I think it was Luke that said it,
but it has been an awfully long time...


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From: jedi@iesd.auc.dk (Allan Bo Joergensen)
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
	<1992Dec12.020221.12864@u.washington.edu>
	<1ge1goINNpuc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:58:40

My favorite part is in ROTJ, just after C3PO finds out he can talk to
the Ewoks (it's in my .signature).

- Allan
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Solo : Well, why don't you use your divine influence and get us out of this ?
C3PO : I beg your pardon, General Solo, but that just wouldn't be proper.
Solo : Proper !?
C3PO : It's against my programming to impersonate a deity.
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 09:42:46 MST
From: julie@alaska.et.byu.edu (Julie Gritton)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The Kessel Run, the Princes, and funny marks
Reply-To: julie@bones.et.byu.edu

Kessel is a planet with spice mines (hence C3PO's line, "We'll be sent
to the spice mines of Kessel", or whatever the exact syntax is, I
don't have my script in front of me.).  The run is a smuggling run
carrying those very valuable spices, probably to a somewhat close,
high-paying destination.

"You could use a good kiss!"		JULIE
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:42:24 EST
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Have any of you star wars fans seen my wife .. (Re: Why don't you

In article <105125@bu.edu>, obrien@bu-bio.bu.edu (Todd O'Brien) says:
>
>(Poor Snuffy ... he's SO nice, and yet this guy had so many BAD things to
>say about him.  And so what if Ernie and Bert are gay lovers!)

Um....excuse me?  Lets leave Bert out of this.  =)
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From: julie@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Date: 17 Dec 1992 04:05:44 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: skatter.usask.ca

From article <2kBoVB4w166w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us>, by lone@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (John Hale):
> Oh, it's gotta be that grat scene in ANH in which Luke walks up on top of 
> his uncle's farm, looking away towards "Adventure & Excitement", towards 
> the twin suns setting, with "Luke's theme" playing in the backgroud. 
> Almost as moving as when he come back to a destroyed homestead. That 
> scene always makes me, a callous teenager, cry.
> "If they traced the robots here they might have found out who they sold 
> them to and that would lead them back--home."
> "Wait Luke, its TOO DANGEROUS!"                         -Lone Wolf
 
Hey!  *I* was going to say that! 
You forgot the hair blowing in the wind though.  Very important.

As for the the "returning to the homestead" bit.  I got the soundtrack
in 1978, and I could picture every bit of that scene just from the
music.  'Course I even cry at some commercials... 


 


It's not that I like the Empire.  
I hate it, but there's nothing 				Jules
I can do about it right now! 
	- Luke Skywalker.
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From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Do Vader know Yoda?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:51:25 GMT

In <Bz9HLt.6zJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> caine@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:

>>	Have you noticed that Vader doesn't seem to know that Yoda exist,
>>as each time Vader 'congratulate' Luke for his use of the force, he complete
>>the phrase with 'Obi-Wan tought you well' (or something along those lines
>>as I mostly saw the trilogy in french). From memory, it seems to me that Vader
>>never referenced Yoda as the teacher of Luke; why? Yoda is supposed to be
>>a 'big' player in the Jedi thing, no?

>Read the books "Heir To The Empire" and "Dark Force Rising".  A very good
>explanation of this (why Vader never sensed Yoda).  As for Vader always
>crediting Obi-Wan: I suppose it could be said that Obi-Wan is the one respon-
>sible for getting Luke trained in the first place (remember Hoth?).  Although
>Yoda did the actual training, it was Ben who convinced BOTH of them that it
>was necessary.  Ben was always present in some way (The Force) during the 
>training of Young Skywalker.

Another possibility: Remember that Obi-Wan was in a large part responsible for
Anakin becoming Vader.  For sending him into the molten lava pit (whether or
not he pushed him or it was an earthquake).  Basically, he put Vader through a
lot of pain.  So Vader could be jealous that Ben ruined his life and seems to
be doing very well with Luke.  And the fact that Luke's his son probably 
doesn't help any.  So a lot of it could be bitter jealousy.

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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Yoda quote
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:17:10 GMT

finton@barney.cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) writes:

>My brother gave me a Yoda quote, and I'm wondering if he got it right:
>              "No think. Only do."
>I don't remember this one;  what I remember is "There is no try;  only do."

>Can anyone verify whether Yoda says either of these, or something close?

"Do.  Or do not.  There is no try."


                                    --Steve Stelter
                                      sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Antilles...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:08:16 GMT

I would like to know if anyone out there knows if there is some kind of relation between Wedge Antilles and the Captain Antilles that C3PO refers to as being their former master.  I see this as a possible connectiont to be explored in the upcoming prequels.

Jake

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From: mkend@cs.monash.edu.au (Michael Kend)
Subject: Batman  Returnss
Summary: Figure list
Keywords: batman
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:39:19 GMT

	Please can somebody ee-mail me a list of all Batman Return figures
released by Kenner in the US or what you have seen in stores.

Thanks...

	e-mail : mkend@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au

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From: darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy)
Subject: Re: ..last hope. No there is another one.
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Summary: A Quote..
Keywords: oh no, we goin' to rock down to electric avenue...
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:49:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.061342.5771@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> stein_gs@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Glenn S Stein) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.075916.13690@anasazi.com> rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:
>>>Recall that Yoda said "Always emotion is the future..." 
>>                               ^^^^^^^
>>                               in motion
>Since Yoda is replying to Luke's "I see them in pain (an EMOTION), I'd say
>you're wrong.  I don't have the script, but emotion fits much better.
>
>Glenn

Yoda:  Concentrate... feel the Force flow.  Yes.  Good.  Calm.  Yes.
       Through the Force, things you will see.  Other places.  The
       future...the past.  Old friends long gone.
Luke:  Han!  Leia!
Yoda:  Hmmmm.  Control, control.  You must learn control.
Luke:  I saw... I saw a city in the clouds.
Yoda:  Friends you have there.
Luke:  They were in pain.
Yoda:  It is the future you see.
Luke:  Future?  Will they die?
Yoda:  Difficult to see.  Always in motion is the future.


I got this from TESB script...



	--Jerry




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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:09:44 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: What in the galaxy were we thinking?!

In article <92352.232440GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>, <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>How many times now have we speculated on the plotlines of the next (first)
>trilogy?  Oh boy, the training of Anakin!  His turn to the dark side!  The
>adventures of Obi-Wan!
>
>But have we forgotten Lucas's statement that the droids are the ONLY
>characters
>constant in all 9 films?  Sure Darth and Obi would be played by new actors,
>but
>they are still the same characters.  If Lucas sticks to this, there is no
>telling what the new trilogy will be about.

  YES, the droids will be the only characters to appear in
  ALL 9 films!
  -----

  But that doesn't mean Ben and Anakin can't be in
  parts 1 through 6!!!!!!!!

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From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: A long time ago...
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:02:11 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

I just read a post about the "A long time ago..." phrase saying that,
follwoing the idea that it is not a long time ago to US, but that it was
a long time ago to the narrator.  The poster also said that the narrator
would probably be long lived.  Well, just for the sake of discussion,
combine this with the idea that C3PO and R2D2 are supposed to be the
only constant characters in the adventures (according to some in this
newsgroup).  Well, shouldn't it logically follow that and old C3PO may
be the "mystery" narrator.

I realize this is a shot in the dark (at extemely long range - to
overextend a metaphor).  But it was just a thought that went through my
head.

	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

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