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From: amah@IASTATE.EDU 
Subject:  OS/2 2.1 Beta Problems. ( Cross linked files. Paradise Video. etc.)
Reply-To: amah@IASTATE.EDU 
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:33:36 GMT


Hi!


I installed OS/2 2.1 Beta on my machine yesterday. With all the talk about
reformatting the hard drive, I simply deleted all OS/2 files by booting from DOS
(I am using BOOT MANAGER) and then proceeded by installing from the 27 floppies
I made earlier. I have a 212 MB IDE drive with 1MB Boot Manager, 5 MB DOS and
rest as a FAT partition with OS/2 residing on it. I didn't want to reformat
because I have so much stuff on the D: drive. And since I don't have access to a
tape drive, back up is nearly impossible.


Well, the installation was OK. But when I booted back, I realized that I can't
get a listing of my D: drive. It only listed OS/2 directory and displayed a
message about corrupted extended attributes (No problem in an OS/2 DOS session
though, might be that I only have corrupted EAs and DOS won't use them anyway).
So, I did a Shut Down, booted off a floppy, inserted "Disk 2" of 2.1 Beta and
ran CHKDSK D: /F. It gave me lots of messages about corrupted EAs and that they
were fixed. Also, it gave me messages about cross linked files but it didn't do
anything to fix them. I still get messages about Cross Linking in EAs when I run
chkdsk. Also, one of my directories won't show on D: Drive on WPS. It lists that
directory if I am in an OS/2 window or DOS session.

I then proceeded to run DSPINSTALL. I have a paradise WDC90c30 based card with 1
MB RAM and was glad to see that 2.1 Beta has support for Paradise. I selected
640X480 256 Colors mode. Blank Screen! It gave me a message about Internal
processing error, "Trap000d" and some locations. Tried to recover by rebooting
and using Alt-F1 combination. Didn't work. A blank screen showed up after the
initial logos. Installed again by swapping 27 floppies (phew!) and haven't
touched DSPINSTALL since.

My questions:

a) Is there an easy way to recover after display problems like that?
b) What is Trap 000d and what does it mean in this case?
c) Has anyone else installed 2.1 Beta with Paradise Video?
d) Is there a way to correct Cross Linking in EAs?
e) How can I make WPS to see my missing directory (folder)?

Thanks!



Max
amah@iastate.edu



Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: scastill@nmsu.edu (Steve Castillo)
Subject: problem in printing with winos2 3.1 beta
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:19:31 GMT


I have an interesting problem with printing documents under the winos2
3.1 beta.  At home I have OS/2 GA installed.  At my office I have OS/2
GA + SPK + winos2 3.1 beta installed.  I am using HP laserjet IIP
print drivers.  When I created a document at home using Mathcad for
windows or wordperfect 5.1 for windows and try to print at my office,
a bunch of garbage comes out of the printer (many pages, unreadable
print characters, etc.).  The mathcad document was using the windows
print drivers and the wordperfect document was using the wordperfect
print drivers.  I also tried to print a document created by a
colleague using Wordperfect for DOS under DOS 5.0 on my office system
and had the same mangled results.  However, when I create a document
with either mathcad or wordperfect at my office under the winos2 3.1
beta, the documents are printed correctly.  Switching back to winos2
3.0 GA +spk at my office fixed the problem (fortunately I had
preserved this on my disk, so switching back was not a problem).  Has
anyone else had this problem?  This is very strange.  The winos2 3.1
beta was manually installed using the unpack command and then changing
the win.ini and system.ini files manually to use the correct video
drivers.  The various windows groups were also manually copied from
the winos2 3.0 directory to the winos2 3.1 directory.  Otherwise,
everything works great.  It is not a big problem for me to use winos2
3.0 except for the slightly snappier performance I get using winos2 
3.1, but I am curious.  My work computer is a 50 MHz 486DX EISA with 16
mbytes, 220 Mbyte HD, ATI Graphics Ultra (ugh!), 3C503 ethernet card.
--
*****************************************************************
Steve Castillo
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM

scastill@nmsu.edu
(505)646-3214
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: ET4000 1024x768 interlaced?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:25:38 GMT

In <1993Jan6.172853.9944@ugle.unit.no> tmolbach@Lise.Unit.NO (Thomas M|lbach) writes:

>I have installed the GA+CSD with the new et4000 drivers. The 640x480 + 800x600
>drivers looked OK, but the 1024x768 drivers looked interlaced to me. The monitor
>(15") and the graphics card (2theMAX) should manage 1024x768 non-interlaced. Does
>anyone know if it's possible to get 1024x768 non-interlaced with the CSD-drivers?
>And what should I do?

 It's not interlaced, it's running at a refresh rate of 60 hz instead of 70
hz, so you're seeing some flicker.

 Yes it is very annoying.  Check to see if your card has any switches on it
which allow you to set it at a higher refresh rate.

 Otherwise, you're in the same pickle as I am.  I have a IBM PS/Valuepoint,
and the only way to set the video on this to the higher refresh rate is by
using the DOS program VMODE included on the video drivers disk.

 I've tried somehow making this work about 3 times now under OS/2 and have
found that each and every time it screws something up and I have to
reinstall the OS/2 system.  Since 1024x768 is unsuable on anything smaller
than a 17" display I've given up on it.  I don't quite even understand what
I did, but the darn display is black after I shutdown and restart.

 Sorry, I just like complaining about this.


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Project Vincent                    ICSS Resource Unit
SCO ODT, Arc/Info, Atlas GIS       2142 Agronomy Hall
                                   Iowa State University
From: ole@dc.dk
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Printer drivers
Keywords: This field is intentionally left blank
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:15:26 GMT
Organization: Datacentralen A/S


Does anyone know what printer drivers should be used for
Nec pin p2+ or a OKI microline 293 ELITE, and where I can get them.

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: mouse cut & paste in TE/2?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:08:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.212514.12556@ultb.isc.rit.edu> djs6015@ultb.rit.edu (Don Smith) writes:
>Has anyone ever seen any external programs which can give you
>mouse cut and paste in a full screen Te/2 session? I think something
>like it exists for Telix... but I haven't seen anything for TE/2.

For what it is worth, HyperAccess/5 3.0 includes mouse support for
full screen and windowed text operation.

I'm not aware of any add-on for TE/2.  Perhaps the next version will
include mouse support.  I also understand a PM version is in the
works.

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From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: OPINION:  IBM get video kit out soon!
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:42:58 GMT

Sean P. Frigo UW-Madison SRC (608)877-2332,-2001(FAX) (frigo@psl.wisc.edu) wrote:
> Here's to a new year.  My own $0.02 worth says that the OS/2 video
> development kit (32 bit) should have been out with the service pack.
> How Trident put out 32 bit drivers without it is beyond me.  Not having
> the VDK is ATI's excuse for not providing 2.x 32 bit drivers.

Well, the so-called Trident drivers are, apparently, generic svga drievrs
which were leaked out of 2.1b. I have installed them effortlessly and they
work great with my ET4000 (they aren't any different in performance to the
SPP svga drivers). The windows drivers in the 'trident' pack even ask you
to enter the chipset type. Apparently, all the trickery happens in
BVHSVGA.DLL

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gkm@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (gary.k.mc nees)
Subject: Longer Displays (Buffer?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:02:30 GMT

Is there a way to increase the number of lines one can have in 
a window with scroll bars? I mean like several hundred lines 
saved in a buffer and one can use the scroll bars to view lines
which have gone off the screen?

Thanks, Gary
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,fido.os2,fido.nz_os2
From: bsn@world.std.com (Brent S Noorda)
Subject: Re: 4 meg OS/2 is great!
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:52:52 GMT

Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>Even better, however, is using Norton Commander for OS/2 as the interface!

>Starting the MENU.EXE program first seems to be the best way. This way you get
>a nice - though sparse - PM menu that you can put your apps onto. It's a kind
>of low-rent Program Manager
> 
>Most importantly, though, the performance is great! I had a DOS window, OS/2
>full screen, WinOS2 3.1, PMSeek and PM Calculator all open and running and the
>system was going *very* nicely!!!

I put RexxMenu (a shareware program I wrote for making character-mode menus
under OS/2) on CompuServe and was surprised to find that 
non-WPS users were using it.  I hadn't expected RexxMenu to replace WPS
when I wrote it; I thought it was just a way to put lots of options under a
single WPS program object for a cleaner desktop.

Anyway, it's available at hobbes (ftp-os2.nmsu.edu) under
pub/2.0/programmer/rexx (I think).  Or I can mail it.

This message is just for help, not a plea for monetary personal gain; the
$5 or $10 from shareware ain't ever gonna buy me a yacht.
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Wednesday, 6 Jan 1993 12:05:20 CST
From: <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Win games are sloooww

I noticed that when going into windows to play some games like CHOMP, a
Pac-Man ripoff, or others that the games play like they are going through
sludge. I have a Gateway 2000 486 Vesa 33 with 8 Meg of RAM. I set the Windows
session to be in high resolution which gave me the 1024x768 even though I
can't run anything in a window. So, is there anyway to speed this up? I was
not running anything else at the time, so that was not the problem. Should I
put Windows to low resolution and will that solve it? Is there a way now that
I have it installed to change it to low res? All help is much appreciated!!
     Dave Graham
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject: Re: Do Trident drivers work with ATI?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:31:20 GMT

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>Joel's driver seems to work fine here as well, but I can't stand not
>being able to see the background of sliders, notebooks, etc.

VGA800 generic driver (also written by Joel A.) doesn't have these 
deficiencies.
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From: gogol@diku.dk (Peter Skov Knudsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Palette Manager problems (save-bits don't save palette)
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:32:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

steveh@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Steven Hayes) writes:

>Hi Netters,

>I'm sure this has been posted about before, but I couldn't remeber the 
>solution to the problem, so...

>I've been writing a image viewing program for OS/2 2.0 which uses the
>palette manager. Its pretty simple at the moment - displays pgm format images
>of any size and 'depth' and lets you scroll around the image in a window.

>Everything was whoopy (sassi, froody ;-) until I added a menu to the window.
>Now when a drop-down menu goes away the portion of the client area obscured
>by the menu gets redrawn with an incorrect palette. The only repaint
>messages that don't work properly are when the obscuring window uses the
>SAVEBITS option (which doesn't actually cause a WM_PAINT message to get
>sent, instead the window 'remembers' what is was covering)

>So, what do I have to do to insure that SAVEBITS redraws work with the correct
>palette entries?

>Cheers

>Steve
>-- 
>   Steven Hayes                                    |  steveh@rmit.edu.au
>   Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT)  |  +61 3 660-2693

The problem with SAVEBITS obscuring the palette is, according to the
discussion on the net, a driver bug in the palette manager, which 
strangely enough seems to be present in all the drivers that implement
palette management! Evidently there is no solution at present, though
there is a rather brute workaround: If you omit the SAVEBITS flag, your
window wikk receive a WM_PAINT message when it needs to be redrawn after
having been covered by a application menu. You should of course make
sure that your WM_PAINT routine redraws the relevant parts of the window.

Hope this helps

Peter Skov Knudsen, email gogol@diku.dk
Computer science student, University of Copenhagen
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: schimken@electra.cs.rpi.edu (Nathan Schimke)
Subject: Re: OS/2 bOS/2 Global Defaults
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:32:25 GMT

In article <726707394.1@nwark.FidoNet> Robert.King@p27749.f29728.n24936.z8308.FidoNet.Org (Robert King) writes:
>I may have just missed it in my perusal of the information available,
>but here goes.  Is there a way to change the global defaults for OS/2
>WPS windows.  For instance, I very much prefer "flowed" and "always
>sorted" options in nearly all windows which present groups of objects

As a partial solution, try changing the settings on your template
objects.  I've got the "always sorted" box checked in the settings of
my system's Folder template, and all the folders I create do indeed
sort themselves by default.

I hope someone posts a more complete solution....

>Robert W. King
>
>---
> * Origin: The Ironhand Troll, Goshen, AR      (RA 1:391/1020.2)


-- 
Nathan Schimke
schimken@cs.rpi.edu
From: forster@chem.tu-berlin.de (Peter Forster)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Found Disk again - now OS/2 is VERY!! unstable
Date: 12 Jan 1993 11:39:17 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: sispa.chem.tu-berlin.de

Thanks for some initial replys. Here's a follow-up on what I've achieved
by now:

OK, I finally got my system to recognize my Fujitsu SCSI hard disk again
in addition to my two IDE drives by first disconnecting one and formatting
the SCSI disk under DOS. Then I installed OS/2 on it, and after that I could
connect the second IDE drive again. Then I was able to format the SCSI drive
(HPFS). However, now OS/2 crashes more or less often when I read (or
write?) anything on this disk. It is not always reproducible, but the
error message (i.e. where the system is halted) is always the same:

          [stuff that's not always the same deleted]

          The system detected an internal processing
          error at location ##0160:fff6459e - 000d:959e.
          60000, 9084

          048600b4
          Internal revision 6.466, 92/10/15

          The system is stopped. [...]

Now I'd like to know if this is indicative of a software problem in OS/2
or if this points at a hardware problem.

Does anybody have an idea?

Thanks,
Peter

P.S.: 
If you want to reply via e-mail send it to 'forster@sispa.chem.tu-berlin.de' 
and do not simply reply. It seems that our news poster omits the 'sispa' in 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: m.ruppel@imperial.ac.uk
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 Beta Problems. ( Cross linked files. Paradise Video. etc.)
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: m.ruppel@imperial.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 00:17:12 GMT

In <1993Jan5.223336@IASTATE.EDU> amah@IASTATE.EDU  writes:
..
>
>
>I installed OS/2 2.1 Beta on my machine yesterday. With all the talk about
>reformatting the hard drive, I simply deleted all OS/2 files by booting from DOS
>(I am using BOOT MANAGER) and then proceeded by installing from the 27 floppies
>...
>I then proceeded to run DSPINSTALL. I have a paradise WDC90c30 based card with 1
>MB RAM and was glad to see that 2.1 Beta has support for Paradise. I selected
>640X480 256 Colors mode. Blank Screen! It gave me a message about Internal
>processing error, "Trap000d" and some locations. Tried to recover by rebooting
>and using Alt-F1 combination. Didn't work. A blank screen showed up after the
>initial logos. Installed again by swapping 27 floppies (phew!) and haven't
>touched DSPINSTALL since.

Did you delete your config.sys file in the root of the OS/2 drive ?
If not, you might have migrated the 'SET DELDIR=...' lines of the old
config.sys. In the 2.1 beta, this will lead to a TRAP D (it did at least
for a few people) as soon as a file is deleted. DSPINSTALL did the same
with my system, when I installed it over GA+SP. Previous installation on
its own *empty* partition worked fine, since by default the 'SET DELDIR...'
lines are REMed out in config.sys and autoexec.bat.

>
>My questions:
>
>a) Is there an easy way to recover after display problems like that?

Yes. You have to UNPACK the DSPRES.DLL file (I assume the TRAP D happened
immediately after DSPRES.DLL was copied, being the first file) from the 
Display Driver disk yourself 'UNPACK a:\dspres.dl_'. To run UNPACK, boot
from a floppy (or the installation disks, if you don't have a bootable
floppy ->> read the FAQ from here on if you don't know how), run CHKDSK and
then UNPACK. You might have to replace more than DSPRES.DLL, if the
DSPINSTALL did delete more files (which I doubt). The Display Driver disks
contain *.dsp files, which list the necessary drivers for each card. The
name of the *.dsp file is a combination of the card type (TS for TSENG) and
the resolution.

>b) What is Trap 000d and what does it mean in this case?

TRAP D is a General Protection Fault having an invalid pointer as its 
most common cause. In this case it is a bug in the DELDIR mechanism,
I suppose.

>c) Has anyone else installed 2.1 Beta with Paradise Video?

For me, it runs fine now in 800x600x256 with TSENG ET4000.

>d) Is there a way to correct Cross Linking in EAs?

As far as I know, CHKDSK X: /F:2 , where X: is your drive is the only
way to correct it. But it might have been a good idea to run CHKDSK 
*before* you install the new system.


Markus Ruppel
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) (OS/2)
Subject: Re: Zero-length files
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:05:24 GMT

In article <1ierslINNriq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> al919@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bruce Halco) writes:
>
>I can't find the original posting, but someone asked about
>making zero-length files.  In DOS you can do this with
>
>	REM > FOO.BAR
>
>I haven't tried this in OS/2.  That can be an exercise for the 
>reader :-)

This works under a DOS session in OS/2, but not in an OS/2 session.
It seems that an OS/2 sessions *really* treats a REM statement as
a REM statement.  To get around this in an OS/2 session, one way is:

   type FOO.BAR > FOO.BAR

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 INSTALLATION PROBLEMS
Keywords: OS/2 2.1 INSTALLATION PROBLEM
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 05:32:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.055013.701@netcom.com> samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>Followup to last letter:
>
>Last try was install of os/2 2.0 GA and then os/2 2.1 on clean disk.
>Left in VGA mode. Hangs up immediately after seamless session exits.
>This version just does not like the Tseng ET4000, no how no way.
>Also discovered a new problem. Upon attempting to open the C: drive
>object, got a "extended attributes not found error". Can't get into
>my C: drive !
>
>On the shelf it goes !
>
>                                                  [sam]
>
>-- 
>Scott A. Moore [SAM]  | "Cash is more 
>samiam@netcom.com     | important than your 
>Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
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Is OS/2 2.1 already available ? How do I get it ? what does it contain ?



Thanks in advance


Ashwath Ram
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Win32s in OS/2 2.1?
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:51:51 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan5.213821.25685@netcom.com> timbol@netcom.com (Mike Timbol) writes:
>OK, since the 2.1 Beta supports enhanced mode applications, how about
>Win32s?  Could someone with both the OS/2 2.1 Beta and the October
>Windows NT Beta (with Win32s) try this out for me :)?  Thanks.

According to reports on CompuServe, no, Win32s from the beta NT does
not operate under this OS/2 2.1 beta's Win-OS/2 3.1.

We should be fair here; it's a bit much to ask that IBM support Win32s
in beta form.

IBM is working on it, however.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and what version of DOS
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:28:38 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <C0EH7q.J0u@ecf.toronto.edu> murraya@ecf.toronto.edu (MURRAY ALEXANDER W) writes:
>I seem to recall a utility that allows a _minimal_ image file to be stored
>and booted from, instead of a full 1.44MB image of the diskette.  Try
>ftp-os2.nmsu.edu (Hobbes) for this(?).

Boot DOS.  Format a bootable single-sided 5.25" diskette (FORMAT A: /1 /S).
Put your boot stuff on there.  Boot OS/2, make an image file from this
diskette (with VMDISK.EXE).  You'll have a 180K image file.  You can
get a 160K file if you also format the disk in 8-sector format 
(FORMAT A: /1 /8 /S)

This should work.  I made a 360K image file, by using an ordinary 360K
diskette.  I wanted some utilities in the image as well as the boot
code.
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