From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:16:32 GMT
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In article <1992Nov6.030057.28538@dragon.acadiau.ca> 891666t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trish Turliuk) writes:

>No. I disagree with that. If a person is constantly told that they are not smart
>not thin enough..etc etc that person ultimately develops (unless
>you can totally block it out, become untrusting, a poor listener and generally
>more cold hearted) some sort of insecurity.

Hey, if someone is so uncertain of themselves, tough.  I've had my parents tell
me all sorts of things, some uncomplimentary.  Didn't bother me a bit.
	
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>I want to see a real woman.
>Did you know that women has hair under her arms that grows- just like men?
>Women also have it on their legs.
>Women burp and fart and take big shits in the toilet.
>Women get bags under their eyes when they are tired.
> "    have bad breath in the morning.
> "  can have any sized/shaped breast, bum, leg, nose, lip, ear...

Naaawww...really?  :-)  So models don't grow hair all over, burp, fart, take
big shits, get bags under their eyes, have bad breath, have any sized/shaped
breast, etc, etc???  Is that your point?  

>The fact is we see *one-type* of women portrayed everywhere as the idealized
>women and even this isn't a real type for she is subjected to hours of makeup
>and airbrushing before she goes in front of the camera. The majority of women
>don't see themselves reflected in society at all. How many models have you  
>seen with crooked teeth?

As Victor mentioned, some models don't have to spend hours getting their face
done.  In fact, they don't use much in the way of cosmetics because they don't
have to.  If you don't like the genes your parents gave you, why not take it up
with them?  Do some really-post-partum creative gene splicing, perhaps?

>The message we're fed is that
>we should be that *type* of person for she is BEAUTY and this keeps women 
>striving and feeling inadequate for she can never be air-brushed nor part of
>the unrealistic (and socially constructed) 5%. 

Hey, I like what I like.  As you probably like what you like.  And just because
Roseann Barr is a big star doesn't make me suddenly develop this interest in
women who look like elephants in a human suits with the manners of a crazed
orangutan.  Nor do I go for bimbo-esque characters named Kelly Bundy either.
i.e.  I don't need an ad/TV show to tell me what I like.





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