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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:12:40 -0500
Reply-To:     Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
From:         michael@AFS.COM

Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) writes:
> What command(s) do I need to print a postscript file (.ps, .eps) from a
> shell script?  I have no printer on my local machine, but we have a
> network-wide printer that is the default for everything else.  The
> only command-line utility that can find the printer seems to be
> enscript(1), but that prints the text of the postscript source, not
> the results of processing the postscript.  Stuff like pslpr(1) can't
> even find the printer, even if I use the -P option and name the printer
> explicitly.

>

> I have already RTFM.  In fact, I have RTFM to death :-(, and tried it many
> different ways, so please reply only if you have done this
> successfully.


What a moron!  The bug is in your postscript code, not the printing
utilities.  Next time think a little before posting such crap.

Please, don't anyone dignify this garbage with a reply.


-m

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:31:41 GMT-0500
Reply-To:     Sven Bohm <sven@JACOBS2.CSS.MSU.EDU>
From:         Sven Bohm <sven@JACOBS2.CSS.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      latex

Help,

Could someone talk me through the installation of a new version of
LaTex. The version supplied by NeXT is rather old. I have ftp'd LATEX
VERSION 2.09 <25 March 1992> but don't know where to go from here.

Thanks
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 12:13:02 EST
Reply-To:     Michael Friendly <FRIENDLY@VM1.YORKU.CA>
From:         Michael Friendly <FRIENDLY@VM1.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      White Pine email address

Does anyone know an email address for White Pine Software, makers
of eXodus for the NeXT?

Michael
From: lena%happy-man.com@HARVUNXW.BITNET
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Subject: Re: Abuse and public misconduct
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:31:22 GMT
Reply-To: lena%happy-man.com@HARVUNXW.BITNET
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> What a moron!  The bug is in your postscript code, not the printing
> utilities.  Next time think a little before posting such crap.
> Please, don't anyone dignify this garbage with a reply.
>
> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com

This type of conduct is utter inexcusable -- between adults, not to
mention here, in this public forum.


If anyone here were to use a company account to so abuse someone in
public, it would unquestionably become the subject of a reprimand.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:47:58 -0800
Reply-To:     Jim Goes <goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu>
From:         Jim Goes <goes@CHIMERA.SPH.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re:

> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) writes:
> > What command(s) do I need to print a postscript file (.ps, .eps)
from a
> > shell script?  I have no printer on my local machine, but we have
a
> > network-wide printer that is the default for everything else.
The
> > only command-line utility that can find the printer seems to be
> > enscript(1), but that prints the text of the postscript source,
not
> > the results of processing the postscript.  Stuff like pslpr(1)

> > can't even find the printer, even if I use the -P option and name

> > the printer explicitly.
>

>

> What a moron!  The bug is in your postscript code, not the printing
> utilities.  Next time think a little before posting such crap.
>

> Please, don't anyone dignify this garbage with a reply.
>

>

> -m
>

> --
> Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
> ~18 kyu
> Q16
> NeXTMail appreciated
>


Which garbage is that, yours or his?  Chill out, dude.  Have a bad
day kicking your dog?  Most people subscribe to this list to get
help, not to get insulted.  I assume the guy wouldn't have posted the
inquiry if he didn't need help.  You could have told him what you did
without invective.  If its such a burden for you to read mail, why
are you on the list?  Do us all a favor and SIGNOFF!

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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:00:05 -0500
Reply-To:     Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
From:         michael@AFS.COM
Subject:      Re: Postscript Printing

Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) writes:
> What command(s) do I need to print a postscript file (.ps, .eps) from a
> shell script?  I have no printer on my local machine, but we have a
> network-wide printer that is the default for everything else.  The
> only command-line utility that can find the printer seems to be
> enscript(1), but that prints the text of the postscript source, not
> the results of processing the postscript.  Stuff like pslpr(1) can't
> even find the printer, even if I use the -P option and name the printer
> explicitly.

>

> I have already RTFM.  In fact, I have RTFM to death :-(, and tried it many
> different ways, so please reply only if you have done this
> successfully.


Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato) writes again:
> What a moron!  The bug is in your postscript code, not the printing
> utilities.  Next time think a little before posting such crap.

> Please, don't anyone dignify this garbage with a reply.


I seem to have caused a _huge_ number of people to think I was abusing
some poor soul who is an obvious beginner in postscript programming
(read the sender of both messages - and how could I know his problem was
with his postscript when he never posted it?).  That beginner is _me_,
and I was forgetting to put a "showpage" statement at the end of each
page, thus nothing came out of the printer.


All you flamers can relax now.  Thanx to many others who sent in helpful
replies - sorry I didn't debug my original code better.  lpr(1) works
just fine to print _correct_ postscript files.  :-)


Michael

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:49:56 -0800
Reply-To:     kelly@nersc.gov
From:         Bruce Kelly <kelly@SHOGUN.NERSC.GOV>
Subject:      <mach-task>

Since I upgraded to 3.0 I have notice the following in my
ps -aux output.

root        -1   0.0  0.0    0K    0K ?    N   0:00 <mach-task>

In fact, I currently notice 254 of these little buggers.
Can some one explain this, since I do not start out with
any of these when the machine is first booted?

Thanks
Bruce Kelly
NERSC, Large-scale Systems Group
kelly@nersc.gov
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:41:00 PST
Reply-To:     NeXT is EVERYTHING! <ERICKSEN_M@PLU.BITNET>
From:         NeXT is EVERYTHING! <ERICKSEN_M@PLU.BITNET>
Subject:      DOS Disks in NeXT

NeXT fans..

I do a lot of file swaping between NeXT computers and PC's.  There is a big
problem with the NeXT handling the DOS disks, however.  Some of the time the
DOS disk is read and useable by the NEXT and other times the NeXT ignores the
DOS disk and renders the Disk Drive useless so I have to manually eject the
disk and REBOOT the system in order for the disk drive to function again.

This cannot be the intention of NeXT, so is there a fix yet?

Mark E
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:18:38 -0800
Reply-To:     Jim Goes <goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu>
From:         Jim Goes <goes@CHIMERA.SPH.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Postscript Problems

> >From this I concluded that Michael had figured out that he made a
> stupid mistake and he was flaming HIMSELF for wasting the
bandwidth.
>

> Now so far I've seen 2 people flame him for flaming HIMSELF.
> How about reading the headers for once.
>

>

> PS : If you flamed Michael and didn't get both messages from him
then
> you didn't know what was up so ignore this.
>


Alright. Sorry for not closely following mail headers.  I get about
100 mail messages a day, and whip through them quickly.  I had
deleted the first message without carefully reading it (since I knew
I didn't have an answer).  Didn't realize the flame was from the same
dude. 'nuff said.--
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From: localhost!ken@UUNET.UU.NET (Ken Pelletier)
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Subject: Problem reading Mac floppies
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:07:57 GMT
Reply-To: localhost!nika.com!ken@uunet.UU.NET
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I've been told that 3.0 can read a 1.44 Mac-formatted floppy.  I have
a TIFF image that was scanned for me and put onto a 1.44MB Mac disk,
but I can't seem to get the NeXT to read it.

I get the "The floppy disk is unreadable" panel and

"fd: DISK UNFORMATTED" at the console.

I've been unable to find any references to Mac disks in Librarian,
but several people have told me that "it just works".

Am I misinformed about this feature in 3.0, or is there something
more to it (restrictions on format of disk, bug in 3.0, etc.)?

Thanks
Ken (ken@nika.com)
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:13:21 GMT-0500
Reply-To:     Sven Bohm <sven@JACOBS2.CSS.MSU.EDU>
From:         Sven Bohm <sven@JACOBS2.CSS.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      Sun raster file viewing

Thanks,

 to all the folks who suggested ImageViewer.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:08:46 MDT
Reply-To:     Tomas Hurka <OCS@CSEARN.BITNET>
From:         Tomas Hurka <OCS@CSEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Localization of NextStep v3.0

Hi All,

I am working on the Czech localization of NeXTStep v3.0.
We already have a Czech postscript font with the appropriate
AFM file. It work fine with Czech keyboard created by
Keyboard.app from /NeXTDeveloper/Demos. Since Czech language
frequently uses an accents I was happy that NeXTStep supported
dead keys. According to the User's Guide (page 346) accent marks are:
caron, ring,  dotaccent, acute, macron, tilde, circumflex,
hungarumlaut, dieresis, breve, cedilla, ogonek, grave,
but it seems that only ring, grave, dieresis, grave, cedilla,
tilde and acute really works. I need to use caron.
I tried to figure out who is responsible for switching dead keys
on and off. I only found function DSPSetDeadKeysEnable,
which switch on and off all dead keys. As far as I know
the information about dead keys aren't in *.keymapping files
and also aren't in any file from localization package.
I myself think they are somewhere in WindowServer files.
Another problem is that all Czech characters isn't in
ISOLatin1CharacterSet, but in ISOLatin2CharacterSet. This means
that the tables like:
_NX_CTypeTable_[];      /* char types */
_NX_ULTable_[];         /* case conversion table */
form NXCTypes.h needs to be changed. I found this tables
in /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib. The best solution would be if there
is a possibility to add another encoding to NeXTStep, in my case
Latin2, to have both Latin1 for other (west) European countries
and Latin2 for Czechoslovakia.

Any help would be appreciated.

Bye Tom
From: su@cpuv1.net.kiae.su
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.next-l
Subject: help Moscow user
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 92 19:38:47 +0300
Distribution: world
Organization: unknown
Reply-To: su@cpuv1.net.kiae.su
Keywords: next key map
Summary: next key map

I am looking for a Keyboard.app on my NeXT and have a problem!
Can anyone say why the AlphaLock mode change Latin letters only?
I need to make the second part of code table (0128-0377)
like the first part, any words I need:

        ----------------------------------
        Shift Alt  AlphaLock        Letter
        ----------------------------------
        -     -    -               lower latin
        -     +    -               upper latin
        +     -    -               lower national
        +     +    -               upper national
        -     -    +               lower national (can't do)
        -     +    +               upper national (can't do)

Alpha Lock don't change letter if it is't lower latin.

Any words I need to make:
        Alt key - 'change_any_letter_to_upper_letter',
        Shift key - 'change_to_national_letter',
        AlphaLock - 'permanently change to national letters'

Who can help?

Thanks for any assistance.
(sorry my English - answer direct to me)
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:24:28 -0500
Reply-To:     brown@ccit01.duq.edu
From:         Jason Brown <brown@CCIT01.DUQ.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Postscript Problems

Ok, enough, I think we have a little misunderstanding here.


When I came to work this morning, I read a message from
"Michael_Pizolato@afs.com" asking for help printing postscript files.
I thought this doesn't sound hard, I wonder what the problem is.
Then I kept on reading my email and a little later I see a message
that said:

>What a moron!  The bug is in your postscript code, not the printing
>utilities.  Next time think a little before posting such crap.
>Please, don't anyone dignify this garbage with a reply.

I thought, geez, that wasn't very nice, and also, how'd this guy know
that there was a problem with the other guy's postscript code.  Then
I happend to look at the name of the sender, and guess what it was.
It was "Michael_Pizolato@afs.com".

From this I concluded that Michael had figured out that he made a
stupid mistake and he was flaming HIMSELF for wasting the bandwidth.

Now so far I've seen 2 people flame him for flaming HIMSELF.
How about reading the headers for once.


PS : If you flamed Michael and didn't get both messages from him then
you didn't know what was up so ignore this.

--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@ccit01.duq.edu
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:10:19 GMT-0500
Reply-To:     Sven Bohm <sven@JACOBS2.CSS.MSU.EDU>
From:         Sven Bohm <sven@JACOBS2.CSS.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      Sun raster file viewing

Hi,

Is there an easy way to display sun raster (some kind of X bitmap?)
on a NeXT?

Thanks,
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:14:25 -0600
Reply-To:     "Michael E. Crawford" <crawford@NESTEGGS.COM>
From:         "Michael E. Crawford" <crawford@NESTEGGS.COM>
Subject: Re: vitriol and "now, how does ln -s work?"

Howdy All,
The present barb toss betwixt Christopher Traynor
<traynorc@PHIBRO.COM> & Jim Goes <goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu> versus
michael@AFS.COM and his vitriolic response to
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com's postscript question presents an
opportunity for me to raise the level of this discussion.

To wit:
NeXTstep brings many users bassackwards into UNIX.
And therefore simple UNIX issues loom large until they are at long
last understood.

In my case, I echewed all computers based on my IBM mainframe work
experiences 12 years ago (IBM 3033, 8 Meg liquid cooled memory) until
the Macintosh arrived, and then I moved directly into NeXT.
I admit I could ls with the best of them and maybe mkdir (if I had a
manual nearby) before I sat before a 0.8 NeXTcube, but for all
practical purposes the only UNIX I know comes directly from my NeXT
experience.

Thus I know tons about NetInfo binding and propagating,
interapplication messaging, remote application execution, but mounts,
especially mount errors, still throw me for a loop --and ttys? forget
it; it's opaque to me.

So I have great empathy for any simple UNIX question and wish for a
great 'intro to UNIX' book.
Yes I'm thankful for Nemeth-Snyder-Seebass'  UNIX System
Administration Handbook,
UNIX for the Impatient,
Life With UNIX, & even
NeXT beautiful new 3.0 Sysadmin reference
But there still is not a true overview to NeXT's bsdmachunix, nor
enough cogent examples in the man pages therein.
Until two years of UNIX courses are prerequisite to a NeXT purchase,
these questions will bubble up. Let's welcome them, and generate
better reference material.

Michael Crawford
nesteggs
Houston
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 19:46:57 +0100
Reply-To:     lafont Denis <lafont@LMI.INSA-ROUEN.FR>
From:         lafont Denis <lafont@LMI.INSA-ROUEN.FR>
Subject:      Upgrade to 3.0 a Cube without Floppy.

Hello,

I would like to rebuild from scratch one of our cube, and upgrade it to NS 3.0.

It has no floppy disk. On the net there is another station with a floppy disk. I
 want of course to re-format the HD. In the docs, it is written that to upgrade
 to NS 3.0 and reformat you:

-have no trouble with bsd -a if you have a Turbo Machine

-must have a FD if you not own a Turbo system.

Can you help me ?

Thanks,

Denis
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:10:47 MDT
Reply-To:     Tomas Hurka <OCS@CSEARN.BITNET>
From:         Tomas Hurka <OCS@CSEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Problems with printing of PostScript file

Hi All,
I download from ps-file-server@adobe.com documentation about
Adobe Font Metrics files as a postscript file. After running
the file through 'atob' program and uncompressing  I finally
get the desired postscript file. This file can be without any
problems viewed  (on NeXT) in Preview, but I am not able to
print it out on NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer. When I try to
print it out, nothing is printed and on the Console I can see
this message:

Dec 11 15:08:39 mononext Server:Local_Laser_400_DPI[160]:
DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 564fc
Dec 11 15:08:39 mononext Server:Local_Laser_400_DPI[160]:
%%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: --nostringval-- ]%%

It seems to me very strange, especially because  NeXT is a
'really true WYSIWYG' computer and what can be seen on screen
can also be printed and as I said Preview had no comments to
that postscript file.

Thank for any help or comments.

Bye Tom
From: michael@AFS.COM
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.next-l
Subject: Printing postscript from a shell script
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:14:39 GMT
Reply-To: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
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What command(s) do I need to print a postscript file (.ps, .eps) from a
shell script?  I have no printer on my local machine, but we have a
network-wide printer that is the default for everything else.  The
only command-line utility that can find the printer seems to be
enscript(1), but that prints the text of the postscript source, not
the results of processing the postscript.  Stuff like pslpr(1) can't
even find the printer, even if I use the -P option and name the printer
explicitly.


I have already RTFM.  In fact, I have RTFM to death :-(, and tried it many
different ways, so please reply only if you have done this
successfully.


Thanx,
Michael

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:06:38 -0500
Reply-To:     Christopher Traynor <traynorc@PHIBRO.COM>
From:         Christopher Traynor <traynorc@PHIBRO.COM>
Subject:      GNU sources

All:
        I am sorry that this may not be an appropriate question for this list, b
ut
 could anyone tell me if there is a way to
get access to GNU's sources without using FTP.  I thought that there was an
 archive server somewhere that I could
use to get things, but I don't know exactly what the email address was.
        Thanks in advance...


Chris
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:59:19 PST
Reply-To:     "Jay P. Weidner" <jpw@MINIVAN.VETMED.WSU.EDU>
From:         "Jay P. Weidner" <jpw@MINIVAN.VETMED.WSU.EDU>
Subject:      Internet Connections for Private Businesses

I am at a University and getting on the net was easy.  We are working
with a private software developer in New Jersey that needs access to
the net so we can ftp files and let them log on to our system for
support.  Could some of you who have established private connections
tell me where I should start.  I intend to research this and pass it
on to our software developer.

I am mainly interested in companies that would provide connecitons
(Compuserve, etc. maybe?).  Also, any recommendations on modems, etc.
They are running an SCO Xenix system.

Thanks,

Jay P. Weidner, DVM

Dept. of Veterinary Clinical Medicine & Surgery
McCoy Hall
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-6610

Phone:  (509)335-0812 or (509)335-0711
FAX:     (509)335-0811
e-mail:  jpw @ minivan.vetmed.wsu.edu  (NeXT Mail Accepted)
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:31:00 -0500
Reply-To:     Christopher Traynor <traynorc@PHIBRO.COM>
From:         Christopher Traynor <traynorc@PHIBRO.COM>
Subject:      Hey, What's the deal here?

All:
        Maybe I'm the only one with this problem (not), but why is it that I onl
y get
 small dribbles of posts from any of the
redistribution lists for NeXT?!  I haven't seen anything from NEXT-PR in about
 four months!  The logs for these get
bigger and bigger, and yet someone seems to have fallen asleep at the helm in
 the redistrib. engine room.

        Any hints?


Cheers,

Chris
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From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: The Spanish/American War
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:48:43 GMT

LABBEY@GITVM1.BITNET (Lenny) writes:
: Don, which territories which did not belong to us did the US annex prior
: to the Spanish-American War?


	Better ask the Dakota, the Comanches, the Navajo  . . .


Richard Pennell, History NUS
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