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From: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: Exchangable Harddisk: How well does they work?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:09:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.152157.24803@dde.dk> cpr@dde.dk (Claus Priisholm) writes:
>
>I am considering buying a harddisk with removable media, but I no idea how
>well they work, and which one to use (so far I have seen an advert for a
>SyQuest 44M drive).
>
>It must be able to work with my AdSCSI Plus controller and harddisk (Seagate
>something). I am looking for a way of getting a larger disk capacity and a
>convenient way of making backups (just lost the entire disk contents by means
>of DLII and Reorg the other night).

I have a Quantum 52 Mb drive and a SyQuest 44 Mb removable with an ICD AdSCSI
host adapter.  The SyQuest is a little slower than the Quantum, but both are
about twice the speed of my old Supra 20 Mb, which may have a Seagate
mechanism.  They are also MUCH quieter than the Supra.  I believe the SyQuest
drives are fairly widely used, and are in packages for most 16 and 32 bit
microcomputers (D*S, M*c, Am*g*, ... ).

>thanks - also for any hints towards any good disc-recovering tools :-(
>
>Claus

If you can retrieve from atari.archive.umich.edu, there are some utilities
there; I'm not familiar with 'DLII and Reorg'.  I tend to backup truly critical
data to floppy as I generate it, having lost my HD once or twice.  Unless your
fairly confident in your ability to manipulate FAT tables and sector structure
of your HD, you're probably better off formatting and starting over.  Perhaps
you could try to recover critical data first, then reformat.

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From: timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Ghostscript 2.52 beta: 8-bit and fax drivers.
Summary: One 8-bit color bug fixed. Is fax useful?
Keywords: ghostscript, postscript
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:14:19 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Center for Relativity

Hi,

For those who downloaded the beta version of GS 2.52 only to find out
that 8-bit color didn't work, there is now a new executable on
lifshitz.ph.utexas.edu (/pub/atari/ghostscript/beta/gsfix.zoo) that has
at least one 8-bit bug fixed. The archive containing GS support files
also contains the updated executable. So, if you tried 8-bit color and
got two bombs, you might want to try again. Due to the fact that I
cannot test 8-bit color on my ST, I still don't know whether this fixed
code works.

Also, GS 2.52 contains a fax driver which I modified slightly to produce
(supposedly standard) G3 format. I would like to hear whether anyone
is able to use this output.

-Tim Gallivan
timg@landau.ph.utexas.edu
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mouse wander - acceptable?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:44:16 GMT
	<hjv.721933634@groucho.phil.ruu.nl>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: hjv@phil.ruu.nl's message of 16 Nov 92 17:07:14 GMT

In article <hjv.721933634@groucho.phil.ruu.nl> hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra) writes:
| otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO) writes:
|
| >My ATARI dealer sold me a mouse for my STe 1040 which frequently starts
| >to wander around the screen by itself - without me touching the mouse.
| >The problem is of course that in some programs, if it pulls down a menu,
| >the program will not respond to keyboard inputs.  
|
| >My dealer tells me this is common to all non-atari mice, and is due to
| >"very strong signals from the mouse". In my opinion this has rather to do
| >with "very much noise from the mouse". Should I accept what he says, or
| >is this behavior of my mouse unacceptable? Any authorized opinions are
| >very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
|
| I'm no expert, but have a non-ST mouse myself and never had this problem.
| I personally wouldn't accept this (for what's that worth...:)
|
I used to have a Genius mouse, and it DID display this behaviour (Genius mice
are in fact notorious for it) - the mouse used to wander off in a straight line
until actually moved by hand. From time to time my ATARI mouse has done this
too.

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From: wallace@yngstr.enet.dec.com (Ray Wallace)
Subject: re: floptical
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:37:56 GMT


>From: csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
>Subject: Reply to Matt (floptical)

>One problem, if you have TOS 1.2 or less, programs will not run from
>the floptical.
Anyone know why this is? Doesn't the floptical just look like another hard
disk partition to TOS?

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From: PAULETTI@biel.be.tech.ascom.ch (Pauletti Andreas)
Subject: Re: more windows
Organization: Ascom Tech Ltd., Corporate Services, Division for Research 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:22:57 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <1992Nov16.232808.4216@klaava.Helsinki.FI> mluoto@klaava.Helsinki.FI writes:
> 	hello,
> 		anyone happen to know a software that gets by the
> 		7-window limit of tos 3.05 ?!? or any other tos
> 		fro that matter ?
> 

There exists a PD software called WINX that is available from MAXON
PD service in Germany. I do not know if the thing works with  a
futuer MultiTOS that will not have the 7 window limits either.

cheers andreas pauletti
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ravanbod@nada.kth.se (Mehrdad Ravanbod)
Subject: Re: msa files to hard disk
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:21:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct30.095601.782378@sue.cc.uregina.ca>, SELBYR@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (186902744) writes:
|> How does one put msa archived disks onto a hard drive?
|> 

Yeah, well my question is how does one get msa to work on a 520ST with one floppy.
Last I was trying to unpack some demo from a.a.u.e i gave up after the 40th disk
swap or so.
How could anyone write such a stupid program that doesn't make any use of the
ram memory available and just reads one single track/side, unpacks it, asks for
diskswap, writes it, asks for diskswap etc.

Please, tell me if i have missed something or else stop packing disks with this
stupid packer. There are much better packers avalable.
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Re: Silent Service 2
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:55:37 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

>> What about on a 4meg machine w/RAMDISK and NO hard-drive?
>> 
>> 				-Matt
> 
> That is even better. It may take a minute or two to install, but then
> it is even a bit faster then from harddisk!

Cool....Now I just can't decide which (SS1 or SS2) version wouldl be better. 
It can be fast as all get-ou, but if the playability in general sucks, then
it's gonna bring the whole game down no matter how
fast/colorful/awesome-to-listen-to it is.   Hmmm

				-Matt
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Old Game...what's it called.
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:20:49 GMT

In article <1eehp9INNi69@girtab.usc.edu> sknezevi@girtab.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich) writes:
>	OKAY ALL YOU ST GURUS!
>
>	I have a friend who has a friend who had a game for a 520ST and it
>was this kick butt dungeon game....kinda Wizardry 7-ish...it all took place
>in this dungeon and there were panels that showed the characters view and
>all sorts of neat stuff.  Had a cool magic system too....great interface.
>IF ANYONE CAN THINK OF THE TITLE...please e-mail me ANY information.

You must be talking about Dungeon Master.

>	Also, what happened to that company who made it?  Did they ever
>make anything for IBM or Mac?  Please I'd like ALL info.  Thanks.

Well, FTL (the company that made it) released versions of Dungeon Master for
a number of different computers, including the Amiga, the Apple IIgs, and IBM-
compatibles. DM's sequel, Chaos Strikes Back is only available for the ST and
the Amiga, as far as I know. 

Oids, which is an Asteriods/Lunar Lander-type game was released for the Mac.
Don't know if Dungeon Master was, though.


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From: dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Multisync/VGA monitors
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:13:14 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham

Heres the mail I've had on this subject...


From bgilbert%cs.washington.edu@nsf.ac.uk Thu Nov 12 18:55:33 1992
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 10:49:45 -0800
From: bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (Ben Gilbert)
To: D.Oakley-SE1@cs.bham.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Multisync/VGA monitors
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Cc: 

The Falcon should work just fine with any Multisync out there -- it is
made to hook up to any VGA monitor, and a multisync is just a more 
expensive (and better of course) way to do VGA or Super VGA.  If you're
going to get a moinitor, I would recommend a multisync over just a plain
VGA, for the Falcon anyway.  For the Mega STe it's just a question of
being able to do all the modes on one monitor, which you definitely need
a multisync for.  

---------------------------------------------------------

From A.V.Groenink%research.ptt.nl@nsf.ac.uk Fri Nov 13 09:37:36 1992
Date: 13 Nov 1992 10:36:28 +0100
From: A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Multisync/VGA monitors
To: D.Oakley-SE1@cs.bham.ac.uk
Reply-To: A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl
X-Envelope-To: dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st

In comp.sys.atari.st you write:

>This month, ST Format has printed the connections to fix an ST to a
>VGA multisync monitor - is that a good idea, will it work or is it
>worth it me getting a multisync instead? Someday I might get a Falcon
>(perhaps the 040 - I don't mind waiting!), so can anyone see any
>problems connecting one to a multisync such as the NEC/3D?

Related question: are there any monitors that have double inputs, so that when
you're using a TT with a graphics board you can connect both the TT output and
the card's output to the same monitor?
-- 
Annius Groenink  --  Universiteit Utrecht  --  PTT Research Leidschendam
annius@research.ptt.nl/avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl       Maths/Comp.Sc./TOS/Music       

There ya go! I'm just looking at the prices of VGA vs multisyncs at the mo...
If I get round to buying I'll let everyone know how I get on....


David.

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From: spoil@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Laurenz Pruessner)
Subject: Re: Auto-Switch Overscan!
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Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:12:02 GMT

rincewind@discworld.oche.sub.org (Rincewind                      alias Michael Schwingen) writes:

>It is manufactured by 
>  OverScan Gbr
>  Saentisstrasse 166
>  D-1000 Berlin 48
>  Germany
>(I hope this address is still correct).
>

It is.

>Last time I remember it was about 100DM, but at the atari-fair in 
>Duesseldorf it was sold cheaper (~60-80 DM ?)

It's at about 120 DM.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: More Falcon news...
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:32:04 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

undermind!Steve_Johnson@overmind.mind.org writes:
> The Falcon030's 68030 has a 24-bit address/16-bit data bus.  It 
> get's a little confusing, though, because the COMBEL (the system 
> controller) has a 32-bit bus to RAM and to the VIDEL (the video 
> controller).  The machine on the whole, though, isn't a 'TRUE' 32-
> bit machine (kinda like the Mac LC II/Performa 400).  The PDS 
> (processor-direct slot) is also 24-bit address/16-bit data.  There 
> is some hope, though, that a third party will be able to 'fix' this 
> (there will, most definitely, be a 32-bit FAST RAM expansion for 
> the Falcon030 that will allow more RAM, at least, from what I've 
> heard). 

this is -really- strange. i was under the impression that all 68k
processors after the '020 were 32 bit all the way 'round. can someone
post a 'family tree' of the 68k series & what is what? going to
24/16 for a 32 bit processor sounds like something Intel would do,
not Motorola.

i realize that Motorola doesn't have a lot to do with the bus design,
but it seems to me that trying to fit a 32 bit external processor
on a 24/16 bus would be a lot more hairy than just making it 32 bits
in the first place.

jason

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From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: Exchangable Harddisk: How well does they work?
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:15:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.152157.24803@dde.dk> cpr@dde.dk (Claus Priisholm) writes:
>I am considering buying a harddisk with removable media, but I no idea how
>well they work, and which one to use (so far I have seen an advert for a
>SyQuest 44M drive).
>
>It must be able to work with my AdSCSI Plus controller and harddisk (Seagate
>something). I am looking for a way of getting a larger disk capacity and a
>convenient way of making backups (just lost the entire disk contents by means
>of DLII and Reorg the other night).

I've been using a Syquest 44MB drive for 2 years, it works fine with ICD
AdSCSI. Just plug it in and partition it, nothing to it. Btw, if anyone would
like to buy my 44MB drive (so I can buy an 88MB unit, heh) drop me a line.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jartsu@vipu.hut.fi (Jartsu)
Subject: ATTN: Simon Gornall (was: Re: My MiNT distribution kit)
Reply-To: Jari.Lehto@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:23:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.203004@phwoof.ph.kcl.ac.uk> sjg@phwoof.ph.kcl.ac.uk (Simon Gornall) writes:

> While I'm on the subject, if you upload anything for MiNT to a.a.u.e, (or
> anywhere else for that matter), could you email me here at kcl (either
> sjg@dogmatix.ph.kcl.ac.uk or sjg@phwoof.ph.kcl.ac.uk)


Can't reach you via Email from either of these addresses, keeps
bouncing, you don't seem to exist on the net...

Please mail to me so I can get a correct return address!



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From: tsch0098@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Thorsten Schnurawa)
Subject: Re: Idea for a program
Reply-To: tsch0098@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:02:21 GMT

In article 20452@newstand.syr.edu, ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg) writes:
>Here's an idea for all you programmers out there...what about
>a program that will allow one to control another computer,
>remotely via a modem?  I do not know if it is possible, or if
>it has alredy been done, but it would be nice to have...I
>think.  There are programs like this on other
>platforms...Carbon Copy (msdos) and Carbon Copy for the Mac,
>PC Remote, PC Anywhere, and even remote access for the Mac
>using system 7.

I think there is a program out there called bagdad (or something like that),
distributed by MAXON in Germany (if you're really interested in details, I
will search for them in my lots of atari-magazines).
It allowes you to control a st by another st...
>
>I imagine it would be easiest to come up with something that
>lets one control another ST remotely...but it would be even
>neater to be able to control an msdos machine, or even a Mac
>remotely.
>
>--Gerry
>ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
>
>


Ciao,
      Thorsten
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Idea for a program
Keywords: remote, modem, program
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:46:47 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg) writes:

>Here's an idea for all you programmers out there...what about
>a program that will allow one to control another computer,
>remotely via a modem?

How about this scenario:

In the morning, you leave home, and insert a certain floppy in your drive, or
set-up a certain auto-run program on your harddrive.  And turn your computer on.

Then, from work, you dial you home phone, and let it ring ONCE, wait ten seconds,
and do again (once).

The program (which has been monitoring the modem for the "RING" signal all day
responds by ringing the dial-in lines to your workplace, and sets up the 
connection between computers, perhaps in a restricted fashion (eg. the home
computer will only execute certain programs, unless a password is given, etc.)

I'd be happy if the program just downloaded files and unpacked them, so that
I can send stuff home and have it arrive before I do...

These days I just use the Sparc's floppy drive, but the above is a nice idea...

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From: grillo@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (GUEST Savino Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: High Rez Tracker
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:03:07 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA


Hi there,

Do you know a PD noisetracker that works in b/w hi res  ?

Can you point it to me ?

					Savino
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From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:37:49 GMT

In article 12083@bsu-ucs, 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu () writes:
>> 
>> I thought I'd never see the day when Compute! (er... Compuke!) magazine gave
>> any non-PC or non-Mac the time of day.  The end must be near...
>> 
>> Anybody care?
>
>Only so far as to ask if I'm the only one here who remembers far enough back to
>the day of type in programs out of Compute?

Are you kidding?  I still have calouses on my fingers from pounding away on
the keyboard of my Atari 800 to get 5,000 lines of DATA statements entered.
Remember the old checksum programs the mags had to check your typing? <groan>

Even further back, anyone remember the 8-bit version of NAVAL BATTLE that was
on one of the Antic disks?  I did both the Antic 8-bit and Start ST versions, but
the 8-bit was my favorite.  Custom character sets, VBI's for more colors,
background music... all in <48K.  Those _were_ the days!  :)

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From: saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: More Falcon news...
Summary: One thing makes this credible......
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:23:02 GMT

In article <SCOTT.92Nov17124603@sfi.santafe.edu> scott@sfi.santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich) writes:
>>Also a Falcon040 with 32Mhz 32 bit processor + DSP etc will be *released*
>>next November and be available spring '94.
>
>*GIGGLE*

Well, the one thing that makes this sound believable is that once again Atari
would have a hot new machine announced but unavailable over Christmas.

                                          Steve
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From: ehs@jyu.fi (Eero H. Sarkkinen)
Subject: MGIF 4.0 problem (was Re: MGIF 4.0 uploaded to atari.archive)
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:54:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.110007.11018@jyu.fi> I wrote:

>Also, anybody else having problems launching this version under
>tcsh? It works just fine until it says "copy to transform array"
>at which point it just exits. 
(and so on...)
To clarify things, further experiments have revealed that
this seems to happen whenever there's less than some 2.5 meg
free RAM available.  So it was not a tcsh bug/incompatibility,
only this mgif version being quite the memory hog.

EeroS
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Cyber-stuff
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:24:18 GMT
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls

In article <20NOV92.08890564.0092@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, Alan Edwards <EDWR@UNB.CA> writes:
>     I was at my friends last night, and he has
>CyberPaint and Cad 3D. These both look like pretty good programs,
>but I can't find them in any catalog. Have they gone away?

The software company which produced CAD 3D and CyberPaint is no longer in
business.  They were connected with the magazine people who published STart
and Antic.

However, if you're prepared to wait for a few months to collect the programs,
you can obtain CAD 3D and CyberPaint through the UK magazine 'ST Review'. They
will be including these on their cover disks over the next several months ---
at least that is what the advert in the current issue indicates.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
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