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From: CTODD@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU (Craig M. Todd VMS/UNIX Software Consultant x3586)
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Subject: Re: VMS Mail
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:30:18 GMT
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>
>>Is anyone out there using VMS Mail?  If so, how do you attach a file or files
>>to a letter that you are writing?  Thanks.
>>
>>                                       Scott Barnett
>>                                       Computer Lab Manager
>>                                       Widener University
>>                                       pysrbarnett@cyber.widener.edu
>
>[You don't say what kind of files or where they reside (VAX or other
>platform)]
>
>Sorry, VAXmail is a dinosaur... you must create a uuencoded file and
>manually edit into your message.

 A dinosaur? Most mailers will destroy an un-encoded file which is sent
 between unlike systems. A dinosaur?

>
>If, however, both of you are on VMS systems and *if* you both have JNET
>software, then just SEND/FILE/VMS <filename> <username@BitnetSite> from one
>site to the other. That works with any VAX/VMS file.
>
>Hope that helps,
>Philip
>
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 Oh, by the by, it is somewhat difficult to attach a previously created file
 to a letter you are currently writing all while using the SEND/FILE/VMSDUMP
 command. Nearly Impossible for the average user.


 In mail at the "mail>" prompt type:

                        send/edit

 Then type your note. When you reach the section where you want the included
 file type either:

                  Ctrl-Z  if using an EDT editor, or

                  Press the DO key (PF4 if you have no key labeled DO) and
                        are using the EVE editor.

  Then, in either case, at the "*" or "command:" prompt type:

                  include your_file_name.xxx

  In EDT you would then type a "C" at the asterisk to return to full screen
  mode.

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From: Scott.R.Barnett@CYBER.WIDENER.EDU
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Subject: Reply to RE: VMS Mail
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:56:45 GMT
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Thanks for the info on VMS Mail everyone.  I have found out how to include
using the editor that is on my system.  It is Eve editor.  Thanks anyway.

       *************************************************************
       *Scott R. Barnett             *  And the piano sounds       *
       *Student Computer Lab Manager *  like a carnival and the    *
       *Dept. of Computing Services  *  microphone smells like a   *
       *Widener University           *  beer!     - Billy Joel     *
       *************************************************************
       *Internet:  Scott.R.Barnett@cyber.widener.edu (primary)     *
       *           sbarnett@tattoo.cs.widener.edu                  *
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       All opinions stated are my own, and do not in any way, shape,
       or form represent those of my employer or anyone else!
From: ACCAJT@HOFSTRA.BITNET
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Subject: Re: VMS Mail
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:19:41 GMT
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Most VAX editors have a means of including a file. For example in EDT
at the asterisk prompt type INC filename.

Or, alternately you can use the MAIL command:

SEND/EDIT filename
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:24:00 GMT
From:         KHALED@AUC.EG
Subject:      Re: new pc virus?

        Dear networkers;
There are two solutions to get rid of joshi if it really got hold of
your disk/diskettes.
        1) Use Norton Disktool to "Make a Disk Bootable"
        2) Use Norton Utility By Physically replacing all what is written
           in absolute sector "0"  by zeros. Then run NDD to fix what you
           you have distroyed by writing zeroes from byte X'01' to
           X'b6'.
        Best regards with this continuosly emerging virus.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:48:43 -0800
From:         JAMES@UCRAC1.UCR.EDU
Subject:      Re: new pc virus?
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how does one get hold of F-PROT 2.05?
james ssemakula
==============
>It seems like a new virus called Joshi has surfaced. Apparently, it affects
>the hard disk and prevents it from booting up. Has anyone else run into this
>and what cures/defense are effective? It appears to be abale to evade VSHIELD
>and to be resistant to CLEAN.
>
>james ssemakula
>u.c. riverside.

It has been around for quite a long time and activates on Jan 5th -- by
saying 'happy birthday Joshi!!'. I'd recommend updating your anti-virus
software.... the current versions of scan & clean are 97 -- you may also
want to consider F-PROT 2.05, since it is FREE for home use.

-Bob Martin -- acsmartin@eku.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:32:54 MST
From:         con_jdc@LEWIS.UMT.EDU
Subject:      RE: new pc virus?
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F-PROT 2.06a (November 1992) is available from the following locations:
	wuarchive.wustl.edu: /pub/mirrors/msdos/trojan-pro/fp-206a.zip
	oak.oakland.edu: /pub/msdos/trojan-pro/fp-206a.zip
	risc.ua.edu: /pub/ibm-antivirus/fp-206a.zip

It should be available to European mirror sites of SIMTEL-20 as well!

				John-David Childs
				Consultant, University of Montana CIS
				con_jdc@lewis.umt.edu
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:53:00 ADT
From:         "(Philip M. Howard)" <PHoward@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA>
Subject:      RE: VMS Mail
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>>Sorry, VAXmail is a dinosaur... you must create a uuencoded file and
>>manually edit into your message.
>
> Most mailers will destroy an un-encoded file which is sent
> between unlike systems. A dinosaur?

That's UUENCODE *not* UN-ENCODE... it's a binary to ASCII coding system
which prepares binary files for virtually *any* method of transfer which
works with ASCII. It is widely available (and FREE!) for most systems
including DOS, VMS, Mac (although the BinHex system is more common), and
UNIX.

As for SEND/FILE/VMS: sorry if I wasn't very clear... that won't actually
INCLUDE a file with a mail message, but it will transmit binary files
between VMS machines.

> A dinosaur?

What else would you call a command line mailer without a default editor or
method of attaching documents? I work on three platforms and VAXmail is my
LAST choice of mailer for our users. Still, to each his own... I suppose.
=|-)

Philip

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From:         ELAINE_KAVANAGH@ONYX.UCQ.EDU.AU
Subject:      New South Wales North Coast
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Tmne,

I live in Central Queensland, but I try to get to Sth.East Qld at
least twice a year.  Heaps of things to do such as:

Gold Coast   -beaches, restaurants, theme parks, shopping, resorts
Brisbane     -Queen Street mall, South Bank Complex, Fisherman's
              Wharf (great seafood platters), nightclubs, shopping
              centres, art gallery
Mt.Tamborine  rainforest walks, heaps of craft (pottery etc)

West of Brisbane there are a number of wineries, and north of
Brisbane at the Sunshine Coast there are almost endless attractions.
There's Lady Elliot Island off Bundaberg and Fraser Island also.

Of course, there's always CQ resorts such as Great Keppel Island,
Capricorn Iwasaki, Heron Island, Kohuna Beach Resort in Mackay,
Brampton Island, and the Whitsunday Islands to name a few.

Elaine Kavanagh..University of C.Q., Rockhampton..(079) 309744
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 19:37:38 -0500
From:         Barry Bouwsma <ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: TRAVEL IN EUROPE
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>
>From: BAXTER@PC.BITNET
>Subject: TRAVEL IN EUROPE
>
>WOULD LIKE INFO ON TRAVEL IN EUROPE
>By foot, skates, bicycle, donkey, horse, carriage, car, plane,
>train, boat or magic carpet?
>
   Well, I've biked parts of Europe and can give some train info, but you'll
really have to be a bit more specific if you want me to say more than "Yes,
you can do it, some of the time, some places, probably..."

--
The preceding does not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the author
			Barry Bouwsma,            ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU [Internet]

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From:         Jeff Koch <koch%elcx.dnet@ESU36.CFSAT.HONEYWELL.COM>
Subject: re: Arizona
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Earlier today, someone sent a reply to the historical-sites-in-Arizona question;
however, the body of the msg was blank (except for the timestamp).  Did
something munch my copy of the note, or did everyone get a blank?

As long as I'm here, here's a few suggestions.  I wish I could think of a few
more; I've lived here (Phoenix/Tempe) for 7 years, but I've been too
hard-working or studious to really do the tourism thing.  (In fact, I'd like to
hear a few other suggestions myself!)

I wasn't sure what sort of historical sites (or the location) you had in mind,
so I'll throw a few out:

Grand Canyon:  If you're into geological history, the visitor-center exhibits
describe the geological layers of the Canyon and the forces which created it.
If you're not into geological history, you can always gawk at the scenery--it's
a running joke that out-of-state visitors are more likely to see the Canyon than
Arizona residents--I've been to the South Rim three times, and plan to go to the
North Rim Real Soon Now

Casa Grande Ruins Nat'l Monument, near Coolidge (southeast of Phoenix metro
area):  Remains of four-story Hohokam Indian adobe building--adobe, I
think--built a *long*, long time ago--self-guided tour around the grounds (can't
go into the building--sorry :-)--visitor's center contains exhibits on the
building and the Hohokam

Jerome (northeast of Prescott, southwest of Flagstaff):  Old copper mining town
on the side of a mountain (as I recall, most of the streets are
switchbacks)--the local State Park has exhibits on the town's history

Montezuma Castle Natl Monument (between Flagstaff and Phoenix)--Indian
cliff-dwelling ruins

Heard Museum (Phoenix)--Indian arts and crafts (emphasis on southwest region)

Tombstone (southeast corner of the state)--Old West--O.K. Corral

Route 66--If you're into old roads, Route 66 sorta follows I-40 through the
state, with some variations (Arizona 66 follows the old route east of Kingman)

Jeff Koch
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:30:00 EDT
From:         HANES91@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Kauai,hawaii
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One thing to keep in mind about Kauai at this point.  It did have a lot
of hurricane damage and to my knowledge still does.

Soem hotels will reopen by the first of the year others think perhaps
next summer.  It could be a full year or until next winter before things
get back to being close to normal.

Just thought somebody should bring that up.

Bill Hanes  HANES91@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
From: AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET (Aaron M. Gold)
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ST7759 sez:
  > I purchased an Interrail ticket this past spring in the CSFR
 n
  What is the CSFR?

  Also, doesn't the Interrail ticket come without some Eurail Youthpass goodie
s like the free Rhine River cruise and Romantioic Road trip?

  This is also of prime interest to me because, like Marny, I am now thinking
of concentrating my trip in Switzerland and Germany.  (Of course, I will no
doubt change my mind in a couple of weeks.  B-)
From: AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET (Aaron M. Gold)
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  (Hey, everyone!  ANOTHER potential Rick Steves fan!)

  Natalie Pamphile -

  I will be in Europe at the same time you will.  (For me there will hope-
fully be a month or so of travel at will, then in Sept. a 3-week course at
Brunel U, London, then a 3 month internship somewhere between London and
Edinborough.)  In any case, the book on traveling which several people recom-
mended to me - and which I npow recommend to everyone - is "Europe Through The
Back Door" by Rick Steves.  Consider giving it a read-through.

  I think this book may attain status of the Unofficial Bible of the Internet
Travel List.

  Happy landings...

     Aaron Gold
     SUNY Brockport
     ag9021@brock1p.bitnet
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From:         MEWALKER@MBCF.STJUDE.ORG
Subject:      Re: memphis
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Since there have been two inquiries about Memphis on the List, I thought
a native should offer some help.

Hotels -
By all means stay at the Peabody if possible.  It's beautiful, fun,
right downtown, etc.  It's also expensive by Memphis standards (but
not in comparison with hotels in more convention-oriented cities).

A less-expensive but still pleasant downtown choice is the Holiday Inn
Crowne Plaza on Main Street.  Further from Beale, but still downtown.

In midtown I've heard good reports about the French Quarter Inn.  It's
located in Overton Square, a restaurant/nightclub district, and has a
pretty decent restaurant and piano bar of its own.  There's a bed and
breakfast in an old house near the medical center if you like that type
of accommodation.  It's called the Lowenstein-Long House.  I've not been
there, but it's supposed to be quite nice.  However, it's somewhat
isolated in a high-crime area.

What to do?
Depends on your interests.  Our top tourist attraction is Graceland - a
must if you're an Elvis fan, but not my personal favorite.  You'll find
music in clubs on Beale St. and in other spots (check the newspaper when
you get here.)  There's a comedy club in Overton Square that's gotten
good reports.  There are several local theaters that do a good job.  Playhouse
on the Square (Overton Square) and Circuit Theater are in the midtown
area.

Arts - Memphis Brooks Museum (midtown), Dixon Gallery and Gardens (out
east) are certainly recommended.  Beginning in April, we'll have the
next installment in our Wonders series, this one on Napoleon.  These are major
exhibits shown in our convention center exhibit hall.  There's a very
interesting Ornamental Metal Museum showing everything from fences to
silver flatware to toys made from metal.  Behind it is the world's
greatest view of the Mississippi.

History - several historic homes (19th century) in an area called
Victorian Village, near downtown.  The National Civil Rights Museum is
downtown, as is the Center for Southern Folklore.

I'm sure I've forgotten something major, but this is getting too long.
Call me if you have specific questions (or fax or e-mail).  Have a
good visit in Memphis.

Mary Edith Walker (mewalker@mbcf.stjude.org)
daytime phone: 901-522-0388
fax: 901-527-2270
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Subject: Attn. fellow cheap adventurers
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:03:00 GMT
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Date sent:  5-NOV-1992 13:41:07
HELP!!!
     Broke college student in need of cheap means of intercontinental travel.

I'm graduating in May and wish to delay my entry into "the real world"...
what better way to delay than to travel? I don't anticipate difficulty
finding affordable ground transport...It's crossing the "ponds" which will
break my wallet :(

        Anyway, I would appreciate and advice/ideas/personal reflections
on cheap means of travel to Europe, Africa, South Pacific, ect. I have
heard of singing on with freighters and joining waitlists to be a doccument
currier regular air flights...does anyone know where I can get more info on
these and/or other unusal means of travel. Any comments from others who
have traveled by such unconventional means would be most welcome :)

                                          Thanks in advance!
                                          Stephen C. Duckworth
                                          "DUCK6062@SNYPLAV.BITNET"
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I have tried to unsubscribe from this list without success. Please remove me
from the list immediately.  Thank you.  Deborah Ader  MygdalW@Baylor.Edu
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From:         "Donna Foley (813) 974-4034 S/C 574-4034" <DBEABAK@CFRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Homosassa Springs (manatees - Florida)
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Manatees come into the costal rivers on the west coast of Florida when
the waters of the Gulf get cooler.  This means if you want to dive with
the manatees you must time it during the winter season.

I am not familiar with diving to see manatees at Homosassa, but to the
north of Homosassa a few miles is Crystal River which is a popular dive spot
year round and during the cooler months manatees inhabit the waters there.

If you want just to see manatees, Tampa Electric Company has set up
a manatee walk area near Gibsonton, where they have an electric power plant.
The plant uses water to cool the generators which is then returned to
a river. This process makes the water temperatures warmer and the manatees
prefer the warmer water of the river to the Gulf.  The manatee walk is
open only during the winter months.

Donna Foley dbeabak@cfrvm
Tampa, Florida
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  HI, MY NAME IS SARA MARTIN AND I AM A STUDENT AT SUNY PLATTSBURGH IN
NY, WHERE IT GETS REAL COLD! I AM GOING TO VISIT MY BOTFRIEND IN ST.
PETERSBURG FLORIDA IN DECEMBER(NOT SOON ENOUGH). I KNOW THAT IT'S
LIKE RETIREMENT HAVEN DOWN THERE SO I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE WOULD
KNOW SOME HAPPENING PLACES FOR TWO PEOPLE IN THEIR EARLY TWENTIES
TO GO! ANY CLUBS OR COOL BARS;I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN AN EX-
CELLENT SEAFOOD RESTARAUNT,ONE WITH A BIT OF AMBIANCE AND REASONABLE
PRICES. THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THAT MY BOYFRIEND HAS ONLY BEEN
DOWN THERE FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND IS TRYING TO LEARN HIS WAY AROUND
HIMSELF,SO ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!
         THANK YOU -SINCERELY,
          SARA MARTIN
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On Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:50:44 TUR GEORGE BAUER said:
>
>Stupid question!!!
>
>Be more specific!!!
>
Please, George, can we be a little more charitable and lenient?  I agree
the question was too imprecise to answer very well, but Tmne gave it a
shot, and we could ask for clarification in a civil way, OK?   Dave

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
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From:         GEORGE BAUER <BAUER@RCKHRST1.BITNET>
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I've had it!!!

If the quality of soap around the world is the best that this list can
come up with, it's time I get on to something worth while!

It is a waste of my time and my computer resources to clutter it up with
this garbage.

Come on you idiots, please come up with something worth talking about or
else be quiet.  There SHOULD be something worth while that can be discussed
on this list.

I suspect there are enough people who couldn't talk about anything more
substantive, so I'll probably just quietly UNSUB...

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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 14:52:00 EST
From:         HLC2@PSUADMIN.BITNET
Subject:      Request for help
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My colleagues and I are just cutting our e-mail teeth; so far we know of this
listserve, but would also like information on how to join others. Areas of
interest include dogs/pets; music (specifically blues and
late-seventies/early-eighties punk and new wave--anything from The Velvet
Underground to The Clash, Antmusic to OLD B-52s, and everything in between);
films; screenwriting; playwriting; writingwriting; etc. We know they're out
there, we just don't know where.

Please send any information to my attention at HLC2@PSUADMIN.


Thanks in advance,

Heather
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