From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: A Conversation With Matthew
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 19:48:03 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon):
> On the matter of 'Queer Politics' being something other than 'politics,' 
> there exists simply some nebulous blob of power - and a pack of screaming
> self-interested individuals who want to control said blob.
> On this field, they are all playing the *same* *game*  They are all
> trying to influence 'Power.'

what makes you so incredibly boring, melon, is that you
can never finish a thought.  a good idea could play hide
and seek in one of your postings, and always make it
safely to base.

in particular, tell me, what are the motivations behind
``Queer Politics,'' as you have described so far?  why
are ``queer politics'' trying to influence ``power?''
what do ``queers'' have to gain?  i can picture your
eyeballs swimming, but there's really only one question.
[you might want to include, however, an indication of
this ``power.''  otherwise, i'm going to make smart ass
cracks about using The Force.]

as for ``queer politics'', personally, i don't draw such
narrow definitions, but as is typical with republicans,
we're talking about you here.

> My point:  "Family Values" - as a PUBLICITY TOOL - is designed to distract
> from issues on which the Republicans may be challenged.

if i didn't see Pat "everyone *else* is a fascist"
Robertson, Pat "the queers are taking over this world"
Buchanan [his name is like banana; you always want to
keep rolling on those an-an-an-an-ans], and these little
Michael J. Fox clones holding anti-gay signs in every
discussion about "family values," it'd be easier for me
to leave it at this.

however, i see "family values" as a tool for people
to focus anti-gay energy, and for people to explain
why their home life is so miserable, a national
alt.abuse.recovery.  if i had only been raised by
*Mrs.* Cleaver, my life would be more fulfilling.  if
degenerates like queers and blacks would only adopt
the 50s mindset, *their* lives would be more fulfilling.

Pat Robertson, Dan Quayle, and Pat Buchanan are
wonderful *tools*.  the republican party doesn't need
to get its hands dirty in focusing on *social* and
*political* unrest in the always-paranoid white,
well-to-do folks.

> Now, we are not currently in times of economic prosperity.  This implies
> the most voters will 'feel' that the system needs a change.

while i agree with this sentiment, there's more to
a presidential election than economics because
economics has [have?  Arnold?] political and social
undertones.

what, btw, did you think of David Duke's election
campaign?  don't worry, darling, i'm thinking of
his racism as a side-issue...

> Jesus Christ All-Mighty God High in Heaven!

just the informal "jake" will suffice for now
in spite of the God fixation that thumps in
your posting.

> It doesn't have *anything* -
> ANYTHING to do with the mother-fucking OCA!  How many voters across the
> *nation* do you think know SHIT about the OCA?  Publicity in the
> Presidential arena has nothing to to with a regional issue affecting a
> minority within that region.

if i had said "minority," i would have meant the
gay community, but i get the impression that you're
refering to the OCA supporters, which i've not seen
described as a "minority."

did ya ever think that perhaps "family values" draws
in those OCA supporters?  how about all those people
who watch Roberston or get Lou Sheldon's newsletters?
is there a connection here?

> Within the context of the homosexual community, the OCA is significant.
> Within the context of the state of Oregon, it is significant.

is that really it for you, melon?  the ramifications
of the OCA initiative is significant only within a
homosexual context in the state of Oregon?  does the
name Anita Bryant ring *any* brain cells?
-- 
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
Queer Without A Cause!
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
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