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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: Goodbye Thomasina-the-cute
Keywords: I'm in shock.
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:27:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.175643.28507@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.161619.14164@PA.dec.com> thatte@dinosaur.pa.dec.com (Anjan
>a Thatte) writes:
>>I've been a lurker for some time now, but your post has finally prompted
>>me to write.  I'm so sorry for your loss.  Consider yourself hugged.  I
>>know that my baby (Murphy the Bold) will be getting extra tuna tonight...
>>
>>Anjana Thatte (and Murphy too!)
>


>I'm sorry to have deleted the Thomasina Goodbye posting.  Would someone be
>so kind as to repost it, or perhaps email it to me?  Thanks, ...and I'm
>preparing myself for, I guess, a sad account of the loss of one of our
>furry friends.
>
>JH/Ohio State Univ/Horticulture
>jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu


Me too.  The server deleted the article before I had a chance to
read it.  :-(

Anyways, I am real sorry to hear about Thomasina!  :-( 

Cindy

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 cnewell@azum.den.mmc.com
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: a paranoid little cat
Date: 30 Aug 92 01:13:39 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <BtrtJq.F3s@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Paul Larsen) writes:
>We have had a problem with our 2 year old cat the past few weeks.
>She has been extremely skittish.  Any little noise seems to frighten
 [...]

 Some of our cats go through behavior changes like this, for no 
 apparent reason.  One has had a consistent anxiety about rugs
 in front of doors.  She'll *leap* over it, and then run like
 hell once she's cleared it.  I think it's similar to the ceiling
 fan syndrome.

 Has anyone noticed that horses also can behave like this?  In fact,
 has anyone else noticed that horse and cat behaviors have some
 amazing similarities?  It also seems to me that horses and cats
 tend to like one another.

 Wayne
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker)
Subject: Help, Strange Kitty getting stranger
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:29:53 GMT

Our vet wants to see our kitty tomorrow.  Spirit has been exhibithing
strange behaviour and we don't know why.  

Has anybody seen their cat go from being tail up when getting fed to
being hunched over with their tail between their legs?  Spirit has
been doing this more and more often.  Her tail literaly goes from a
straight up happy position to an unhappy one.  If I leave the room
she follows me and starts to revert back to normal.  No change in
food or feeding location and when she starts to eat it is back to normal
behavious.

Also she seems real sluggish.  She used to come running when I came home,
but Rob says that she stays lying down half the time and doesn't start
to move until he's halfway to the door.  She has also started to become
a little anti-social, when we have company she generally leave the room
to go and lay on the top of the dryer, she used to be with us, either on the
floor or on the couch.

Does anybody have any suggestions?  We really like to have our kitty 
back to normal, but we're at a loss as to why the behaviour changes.
Oh Spirit is 2yrs old and there have been no changes to her life.

I've got to run...hope you can help.

Liana, Spirit and Rob

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Subject: Re: what to do with cats while on vacation
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:17:56 GMT

Yeap, cats in their own home is the best way to go.

I just came back from a two-week holiday. We left our two guys in the
care of our niece. Granted, she is 21 and not 15, but neither of the
cats knew her. She has also had family pets so is experienced.

We left explicit written instructions for cat care; the number, address,
and directions to the vet; and extra money in case she ran out of 
anything. She stayed there the whole time which was just perfect.

The cats were plump and content when we returned. In fact, when they
came inside to see us for the first time, they accepted their usual
hugs, ate, then disappeared again. I like to think they're a bit more
cuddly than before we left, but that's probably wishful thinking.

I missed them horribly while gone, but somehow don't think they 
noticed much difference (as long as somebody was feeding them, who
cares!)  :)

  - Lianne -
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bonni@snoid.cray.com (Bonni Ensminger)
Subject: Re: Question: Kitty pawing around floor around other cat's dish.
Originator: bonni@snoid
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 26 Aug 92 06:10:35 CDT


In article <1992Aug12.161517.18808@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>, ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
> In article <65673@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Jean Shackelford) writes:
> >Fermi's annoying habit is ignoring the dry food that is already
> >in her dish and wanting "fresh" dry food.  I can trick her into
> >eating the existing stuff by dropping a few morsels of new into
> >the dish, which makes her dig in!
> >
> >Meow!
> When my kitties do this, I've been able to trick them by simply
> picking up their bowl, pretending to put more food in, stir it
> a little to make it sound like I'm adding more, and then putting
> the bowl back on the floor. Usually works, though I wonder if
> they really believe I'm adding more.
> 
> Steve
> 
I do something similar for my cat, I just stir the food up a bit.  My theory is
that the bumping together of the food releases some of that delicious cat food
odor.. at least it sure stinkd up my hands!

Bonni
From: jlecher@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Litter box problem
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:25:10 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

I wonder if anyone can help us with a problem with the kitten.
She uses the box just fine, but hasn't seemed to have grasped
the concept of digging beside the solid waste to cover it over.
No, she stands ON TOP of it, getting her feet really icky, then
proceeds to track the mess all over the house! She plays with
Sherlock, getting it all over him, and then she has the NERVE
to meow pitifully when my boyfriend holds her in the sink to
wash her feet off! I'm at my wit's end. She gets washed at least
once a day, and STILL she doesn't catch on!
*sigh*

Good thing she's a cute little bugger, even if she won't sit still
long enough to let me pet her.

Jane

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:35:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

clhoerth@david.wheaton.edu (Cathe L Hoerth) writes:
> 
> I'd like to just post a short eulogy for my cat who died last summer but
> is still much missed - Ace, a 12-pound all black (well, okay, he was
> black-on-black stripes, but only when stretched out in sunlight) fixed
> boy-cat who was never anything but a joy.

I'm sorry; I know how much I'd miss my Duchess pestering me when I
get in the door at night (she's a Calico-Siamese cross, and I've
seen few cats prettier, but then I'm biased :-)

> Which brings me, in a roundabout way, to my question - what are some of
> your silliest pet names for your pet?

Her name is Duchess, but has been called: The Royal One, Her Highness,
Her Catness, Her Noisiness, Noisebox, Furball, Centerfold (for the
great stretch-to-the-max pose she goes into when I rub her belly),
Cooking Fat (Cockney rhyming slang used when she's naughty), Garbo
(boy, does she hide from new people sometimes!), and SkyKitten or
SkyCat when she climbs.

You know, I think the reasons cats collect names is that they don't
really respond to any of them.  Am I right? :-)

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
The sun is gonna shine again / We're gonna make it 'round that bend
I'll walk another mile with you, 'cause you're my friend
The sun is gonna shine again.			- Graham Parker
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu (sallie j kudra)
Subject: Re: Naming Hurricane Kittens 
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:24:36 GMT


Well there are Hugo and Andrew.  I have a friend who named the stray she found
in the deluge that hit upstate SC in the wake of Hugo - Hugo!.

Sallie

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 You may be right, I may be crazy                 | Sallie Kudra
 But it just may be a lunatic you're lookin' for  | kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu
                         Billy Joel               | kudra@clemson.clemson.edu
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From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cow belly
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:10:14 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug26.210918.6280@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>I'd guess it was a belly like Bear's -- a bunch of loose skin that hangs
>down and sort of flaps side-to-side like an empty udder when he trots...
>

     This seems to be the consensus. 
     As we are continually battling similar endowments on several
     of our own, I should have thought of this.

     Wayne
From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Strange cats
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:02:10 GMT
	<67290@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <67290@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford) writes:

>   My cat Fermi (a 3 year old black female - beautiful!) also _loves_
>   to chase flashlight beams.  I haven't tried it with Dixie yet, but
>   I've never had a cat that wasn't absolutely fascinated by the
>   flashlight trick.
>
>   By the way, its a great game for kids to play with cats, because
>   they aren't as rough as they would be if they were touching the
>   cat while playing with it.  Less chance of kid or cat hurting each
>   other.  My niece and nephew ask for the flashlight every time they
>   come visit.

Kinda (the perpetual kitten) happily bounces off the walls chasing a beam
of light.  She even knows what "light" is, as being different from her 
other "toys".  

Sheba (the intelligent, cat version of a scientist type) once looked
at the beam of light on the floor, then looked at the flashlight, then 
looked at me with a look that said, "Hummmm.  Verrrry interrrrrresting."  
She was more interested in observing her sister making a fool of herself.

Rene
--
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Cat show people; was Re: What do you think?
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na,local
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:42:26 GMT

>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> |> association with these people. They're all pretty snobby too. I guess I'm
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> |> a cat lover while they're "cat fanciers".
> 
> 
> Not all of them were that bad, but most of them seemed pretty snooty,
> especially if I showed any shock at the price they were asking for 
> one of their snooty kittens.  ($400!?!  Really?!?)
> 
> I'm a cat-lover, but....
> 
> Are most cat-show people like that?
> -- 
NOT ONLY cat show people but horse show people and my friend tells me, dog 
show people. I used to show horses and most of the competitors are 
insufferable. I learned that whenever money or recognition gets involved, 
things get nasty. Competition seems the common thread.

I prefer the people in this newgroup because I just love to listen to cat
lovers gush and mush over their cats.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake")
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:34:12 GMT

In article <66585@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford) writes:
>
>Almost all cats like to go to the highest surface they can reach
>and look down, while leaning way out from their perch with their
>head stuck out and down from the neck.  I call this vulturing.

I always called it "vultching" -- saves a syllable and is easier to say.

--
|  Didi Pancake         |     "How do you kill mud?"                     |
|  ehp@virginia.edu     |           --Dean Jagger in "X the Unknown"     |
|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|  All the usual disclaimers about the origins of these opinions apply.  |
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: robandtp@prsun.Cyanamid.COM (Paul Robandt)
Subject: Re: Driving x-country w/ Cat.  Suggestions
Reply-To: robandtp@prsun.Cyanamid.COM
Organization: American Cyanamid Company
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:46:21 GMT

In article 6221@iscsvax.uni.edu, klier@iscsvax.uni.edu () writes:
>robandtp@prsun.Cyanamid.COM (Paul Robandt) writes:
>> The product is made by Ace and is named Promazine, I think.  I have given
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Uh, no.  One of the common kitty-tranks is acepromazine, chemically
>very akin to the human tranquilizer chlorpromazine.  Common trade names
>are Atravet, Plegicil, Notensil and Soprontin.
>
>> it to several of my fur persons, and it seemed to make them drugged and
>> upset, instead of just upset.  I would consider using it only for real
>> basket (or carrier) cases.  
>
>  Cats do react differently to ace.  Most cats *are* tranquilized by
>it, a few become hyper.  (Happens to some humans on some tranquilizers, 
>too).  I figure it's a good idea to try one a couple of days before the
>cat *really* needs it, to see what the reaction is.  
>
>  Vets have told me that cats on ace may not thermoregulate (control
>body temperature) well, and you have to be careful of tranquilized cats
>in very hot or very cold environments.
>
>Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI


Thanks for the good info on acepromazine.  The real point is that my
experience with drugging my cats has _not_ been good.  Now I know that
I'll never consider using it on them again.  I believe one should
take the time to acclimate the animal to the car and trying to calm them, 
rather than stuffing a pill down their throats to make travelling with
them convenient.

Paul
From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How do I keep neighbors cat from killing birds?
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:38:12 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

Have you tried a squirrel baffle for the feeder?

Don't be disappointed about not belling the cat.  It's a smart, fast stealthy
cat who would quickly learn to slink as quietly with the bell as without.  It's
a common skill in belled cats who hunt.

Try calling and asking a vet who owns cats.  They're usually a rich and 
helpful source of knowledge.

... Shu

mverman@msus1.bitnet

In article <1992Aug25.193302.13956@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
Ann.Feeney@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Ann Feeney) writes:
> I hope that some of you have ideas.
> 
> We have a birdfeeder in our backyard, that we've put up ever
> since the people next door, who fed the birds regularly, moved
> away.  We put seed out only during the winter, when the birds
> can't get anything else and/or are used to eating from a feeder.
> Lately some people moved into the neighborhood, who have a very
> athletic and bird-hunting cat.  See the scenario?
> 
> I asked them to bell the cat--they refused.
> I offered to pay for the bell--they refused.
> 
> The physical setup is thus.
> 
> F
> E  BU     FEE
> N  SH     DER      
> C
> E  BU                  (Alternative spot, which didn't work)
> F  SH                              FEE
>                                   DER
> 
> This cat is FAST, and can jump and run like nothing else I've 
> seen.  No matter where we relocate the feeder, he seems to be able to
> get the birds.
> 
> So far, we've tried rubbing the fence with mothballs,
> which worked for about fifteen minutes, putting wire along the fence so 
> he can't jump through (he climbs over and hides in the yardnow), and a few
> other futile things.
> 
> Needless to say, I will not consider anything that is likely to hurt the cat,
> but by now t birds are so used to the feeder that we worry about depriving
> them.  
> 
> I've soncidered kidnapping the cat and beling him, hoping that his owners
> won't notice, or getting those Hallowe'en things that make spooky noises
> when something moves near them, and setting them up at his favorite
> hide-n-leap points.  (However, I'm afraid that moisture might ruin them.)
> 
> Any ideas, please?
> 
> Ann
> --
>    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bonns@circus.Camex.COM (Bonnie Evaschuk)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:31:55 EDT

In article <4953@news.duke.edu> Greenleaf@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Andrea Skantar) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug20.211625.24420@super.org> judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger) writes:
>> 
>>    Great list, Marie, but you left out "sitting like a bug".  This is
>>    when they scrunch down, almost in sphinx position, but their front
>>    pays just kind of collapse underneath them.  My mom named that nearly
>>    a million years ago and I still think it's appropriate for that
>>    position.
>> 
>> I call that the "quadriplegic cat" when it looks like a body sitting there with
>> no legs. My wife says "legless kitty" or "poor kitty has no legs"...
>
>Similarly, we call this "the amputee" position.  
>
Sorry that I missed this list, but in case you might not have this, we
call this favorite kitty position, "Meatloaf" 'cuz my Bogie looks like
just like a little meatloaf when he does this!!

bonns

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
Subject: Re: Speaking of biting felines...
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:29:00 GMT

What you are experiencing is the infamous "rabbit kick",
a move that the hunting cat uses to disembowel its prey.
My cats used to do this all the time (of course, that
was before they got to be geriatric kitties), and I
think they were playing with me.  When they grab your
wrist with their two front paws, it puts your hand in
a great position to grab the cat's face (!) -- I put my
hand around the cat's head just hard enough to let her
know she's been had.  If they started getting wild with
the claws or teeth, then I stopped petting.
--
Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
                                           --Carlyle                        
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: Is there a compatable dog breed to get along with cats
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:59:59 GMT

>sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner) writes:
>
>
> Does anyone have
>>recommendations/experiences with breeds that have had little problems? 


Well, my two Scotties get along wonderfully with my orange and white
tabby Malcolm.  In fact, Jenny (who is about a year and a half) plays
with Malcolm all the time!  They are constantly zooming up and down my
hallway (thank goodness I live on the ground floor!) chasing each other.
It's really quite funny!  It ends up looking something like this:

One way:

  -----------------> Jenny ---> Malcolm ----------------------->

Return trip:

  -----------------> Malcolm ---> Jenny ----------------------->


At any rate, they're great pals!


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From: joanm@moe.coe.uga.edu (Joan Maxfield UCNS)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: FAQ, meaning of
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:21:28 GMT
Organization: College of Education, University of Georgia



FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions.  Most newsgroups have them to help
newer people catch up on the little details that the group has already
talked to death!

Joan
p.s. welcome!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: good pro-cat story! (tell *this* one to your dog-lovin cat-haters)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:22:12 GMT


Loved the story!!!

Just a note on the greyhounds.  My hubby and I were thinking about it
and have seen several features on them.  I hope you have a fenced in yard.

The dogs can spot a rabbit, for example, a half mile away and *will*
go after it!!  And...since I do have a cat, I wasn't sure what it would
do to Boo?!?


Gayle 'wish I was back in Illinois' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950