From: s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher)
Subject: Re: pounding the "10%" figure into the ground: Nature, 12/3/92
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:41:42 GMT

In article <13671@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>In article <1go3r6INN8m7@copland.crhc.uiuc.edu>, pgr@crhc.uiuc.edu (Paul Ryan) writes:
>> Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com writes:



># 
># 2) Because Clayton is dancing around the net twisting these statistics to
>#    erroneously prove that I am a child molestor.
>
>Liar.  I have REPEATEDLY pointed out that most homosexuals are NOT
>molesters, but the disproportionate involvement of homosexuals in
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>child molestation is reason, at least in some jobs, for discrimination.
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>I have NEVER claimed that Paul Ryan is a child molester.  
>


Come on, be fair!  97% of reported child molestation is done by hetro
men.  The rest is made up of gay men and women.  Given these statitics
it strikes me that little boys and girls would all be much safer if
they were educated and cared for by gay men and women.  I will also
take this oppertunity to point out that most rapes, murders and cases
of sexual abuse occur in the family.

A more damning model for heterosexual behaviour couldn't be imagined.
It is only because hets *project* their behaviour onto sexual minorities
that they escape having to scrutinise themselves.  By being 'concerned'
that we are after their sons/daughters they ignore who the real culprits
are.  But who can blame them?  Ignorance is bliss.





>I will claim that Paul Ryan is a liar, but that just seems to be part
>and parcel of being a homoseuxal.

Who the hell are *you* to call anyone a liar?  You may not like the
1/10th figure but that does not make it wrong.    The 1 in 10
figure refers to those who are exclusively homosexual ('bout 4%) and 
those who spend 5 years in exclusive homo-mode.  It is a *LIFE-LONG*
figure. ie its validity can only be checked against individuals who
are dead.  That is because their life events are now complete.
Roll a die.  Just because it comes up a 3 this time does not make the
possibility of the next roll being a 3 any greater or indeed lesser.


>
># 3) Because it is one part of an important point: we are not a group of 
>#    of freaks 
>
>You ARE a group of freaks, as soc.motss demonstrates regularly.



Eccentric *and* freaky.   So what, back to statistics.  In the great
bell curve of distributions you may find yourself on one of the
average lines,  you may find yourself locked in the first standard
deviation, or indeed on one of the long straggling lines that pick
up really unusual events.

               *  I am an unusual event. *

 Something beyond the standard deviation.  You cling to being average,
will stick to being unusual.



>As the San Francisco Gay Pride Parade demonstrates regularly.  As

Another Het whos' brain can't handle fun (yawn).



>the absurd promiscuity that caused AIDS to spread like wildfire 

Grow Up!  I don't know a single bloke who will pass up the chance for
sex.  Not One.  You may exclude yourself if you like but *I* wont
believe you.

Remember  *REAL MEN FUCK AND FUCK AND FUCK*   or rather, thats what we
are told.  So don't give out that promiscuity shit 'cause your just
moaning about the chances you never get.



>through the gay community demonstrates.  As the very high drug abuse
>rates among homosexuals demonstrates.

I see!  What next?  Tidal waves?  Earthquakes?  Meteorites?

I think you will that drug 'use' is the correct phrase.  Abuse means
addiction.  Anyway, go back to college and talk to the 5% of the
students who have *never* (ha ha ha ha ha!) used drugs.  Are all of them
gay?  (I do hope so).




>
># Paul Ryan                  (pgr@crhc.uiuc.edu)     1308 West Main St.
>-- 
>Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
>C++ is to C, as lung cancer is to lung.


Xave.

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