HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brian@tpocc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian Youse)
Subject: ALLBASE 
Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:46:02 GMT

Hi,
	Our database people are looking for a low-cost DB package which
uses imbedded SQL and little else. (DB folks only need imbedded SQL and
nothing else.)

	We currently use UNIFY's ACCELL but find it to be too buggy/too
expensive to continue to be used by us.

	SO, we are looking into ALLBASE.  Good HP product name, good price
per user, and seems to suit our needs.

	Does anyone have anything good/bad to say about ALLBASE?  How about
another product?  

	Any help would be appreciated.

	Please email if possible as I can barely keep up with this newsgroup.

Thanks in advance,
Brian Youse
brian@tpocc.gsfc.nasa.gov

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ken@studsvik.com (Ken Rempe)
Subject: Scrollbars with Hpterms
Organization: Studsvik of America
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:49:22 GMT

 How do you get scrollbars on Hpterms?

Thanks
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From: ken@ksads.wpic.pitt.edu (Ken Tew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: NetFax 3.2 for HP 730 - Has anyone done this ?
Keywords: NetFax
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:43:05 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Has anyone used the NetFax 3.2 freeware from MIT on an HP 730 ? We want to use
to automatically fax E-mail to a site that doesn't have any E-Mail facilities.

I'd like to get some feedback from anyone who's used this before investing in
an external FaxModem.

Thanks

Ken Tew - Licensed to Program




Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pdg@cup.hp.com
 (Paul Gootherts)
Subject: Re: exec() error
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:02:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

> I get this error when trying to execute one of my codes...
> 
> "exec(2): data extends beyond end of a.out"

This usually means the file (a.out in this case) has been truncated by
someone or something.  There is information in the a.out header that
tells the kernel where in the file to load the data from and how much to
load.  This message suggests that the file ends before the place where
the header says the data ends.

--

Paul Gootherts, pdg@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mccoy@cs.iastate.edu (Chris McCoy)
Subject: Re: HP730 and NFS
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:19:41 GMT

pearmana@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Andy Pearman) writes:
[...]
>I can telnet to another node on Ethernet - no problem.
>If I then pull the Ethernet plug (thin) out of the back of the HP730
>for about 30 seconds and then plug it back in again, I can no
>longer telnet to anything.
>I get the message:

>telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host

>which is a bit misleading cos the node I am telnetting to is
>on the same logical network and is the same node that was 
>working prior to pulling out the cable.  Anyway, netstat says 
>that all the routing information is correct and re-doing any 
>route statements (not that any are needed in this case) doesn't 
>fix the problem.
>I am trying telnet, but I get the impression that nearly all
>IP based services have stopped working in one way or another.

>Rebooting the system seems to be the only way to get it working
>again.

I am reminded of the little dialogue that goes something like this:

	Doctor to Patient:  "How can I help you?"
	Patient: "It hurts when I do this." (Patient contorting his
		arm in some inhuman way)
	Doctor: "Then don't do it."

Same goes for removing the network connection.

HOWEVER, if you do, chances are the network card is shutting down.
The "landiag" command has options to reset the card.  We use it
successfully when the network goes bonkers and the HP cards shut
off.  Why do the cards shut off?  I don't know.  Any answers from 
our friendly HP support engineers?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr)
Subject: Re: xbiff on HP9000
Organization: Neuroclinical Trials Center, University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:19:41 GMT

Thanks to everyone who responded.  Special thanks to Mike Richichi wh
emailed me a uuencoded copy of xbiff all ready to run.

	-Phil
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Where are the X headers?
Organization: The Off Beat
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:17:00 GMT

After installing HP-UX v8.07 from CD-ROM, I find that there are no
X-windows header files (e.g., in /usr/include/X11 or /usr/include/X11R4).
Do I have to do something special to get them installed (or are they
simply not included with the standard HP-UX)?

If they're not included, is there somewhere they can be ftp'd from easily?

-dx
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sieler@shell.portal.com (Stan Sieler)
Subject: Re: Interactive Chat for mpex
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:20:33 GMT

Keith Christopher (keithc@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu) wrote:
: Anyone know of a chat program between sessions that will run on a 3000/960 running mpex ?

(mpex? Eugene will get a chuckle out of that ... the operating system
is MPE XL or MPE/iX, depending on what version you have.)

I think a chat-like program is in the Interex Contributed Software
Library.  If no one pops up with info, email me at sieler@allegro.com
and I'll check from work.  (Or, call John Sullivan at Interex (408) 
738-4848).

stan sieler
sieler@allegro.com
From: raymond@es.ele.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-UX vs. High-Speed modems
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:41:53 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
In-reply-to: dpayton@qcinet.Gwinnett.COM's message of 15 Dec 92 19:36:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.193615.9415@qcinet.Gwinnett.COM> dpayton@qcinet.Gwinnett.COM (Doug Payton) writes:

>   The current winner in the battle between HP-UX and the high-speed modem
>   we bought is:  HP-UX.  That is to say, we still have the 827, we sold
>   the modem.

Too bad. Not necessary IMHO.

>   And the used T2500 option is no longer.

I fail to see why the modem is to be blamed. Or do you have reasons to 
suspect that the T2500 is flaky wrt. flow control? That would be hard to
imagine.

>   So now we're back to square 1.  My question now is far simpler.

>   Does anyone have a high-speed modem (14.4K) for <$300 working on a uucp
>   connection on a Nova box sans hardware flow control?  

Such modems are only useful if the DTE speed is >= 19200 bps

>   Is this possible?

Generally not.

In practice, you can't rely on software flow control at speeds higher than
9600 bps.

And what's wrong with hardware flowcontrol? It's very efficient.

If it brings hope to you: believe me, it can be done.

Regards,
-Raymond
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: daven@rattle.mentorg.com (David Nilsen)
Subject: Finding process page faults under HP-UX
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:28:07 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

I'm curious if anyone has written a program that returns the cumulative
page faults for the current process under HP-UX -- preferably on a 720 or
730 class machine.

I believe there is no getrusage equivalent, so this code would have to
poke around /dev/kmem to get the data.  Does anyone have some code that
does this sort of thing?  Thanks.

-- 
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Mentor Graphics Corporation
8005 SW Boeckman Rd., Wilsonville, OR 97070-7777
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...{uunet, nosun, sequent, attunix, apollo}!mntgfx!daven

From: davidb@hpuadla.aus.hp.com (David Booth)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:55:32 GMT
Subject: Re: hpvue how do you customize colors to be compatible accross different
Organization: Adelaide, Australia, Smallest HP DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

W. Donald Rolph (a722756@roper.mc.ti.com) wrote:
: 
[stuff deleted]
: color choices made to the users vue.resources file.  It wouldn't be too bad if
: one could  choose a reasonablew color palette, but the pastels are driving me
: nuts, and I literally cant read some of my MIT x clients.

I am not sure about the "overwriting" bit you make reference to; that doesn't
sound quite right. That aside:
	(1) You can adjust the palatte to be anything you want; in VUE 3.0 this
	    is in /usr/vue/palettes, and there are a bunch of files in there
	    with the palette settings brought up by the style guide when you
	    do the "select colour" choice. Try editing the files, by hand, or
	    through the snifty colour editor slider bars the "select colour"
	    dialog box has in it.

	(2) You can run a tool called "xinitcolormap" and load up the first
	    "n" cells of the colour map with what ever you like. These become
	    "hard-locked" cells. Especially good for StarBase or RMB/UX X11
	    users. "xinitcolormap" *must* be the first X11 client run after
	    the server starts. Normally executed in /usr/vue/config/Xsession
	    (/usr/lib/X11/vue/Vuelogin/Xsession for VUE 2.x).

Hope this is what you are looking for.
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From: mcpapen@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Marc Papen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: What kind of server is needed for a diskless 9000/318 or 319
Keywords: HP 9000/318 319 server
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:57:30 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00n.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

Hello

I need some infos about what kind of server is needed to run a diskless 
HP 9000/318 319 of.

1) Do I need another HP box as a server?
or
2) Is it possible to use any other Unix hosts?
   ( If it is possible: What do I need to do so?)

Please respond to the net or send me a e-mail.

Thanks in advance for your patience and answers

	Marc

---
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email:	marc@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: werner@physics.uq.oz.au (Michael Werner)
Subject: clusters
Reply-To: werner@dirac.physics.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:57:58 GMT

We are investigating buying several HP7?? snakes and have heard about
something called a cluster environment for HP workstations.
Has anybody used this system , what is the implementation (i.e RPC calls?),
what are the capabilities, what are the management problems, what are the
limitations, do all the machines have to be identical?
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From: robs@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Rob Slotemaker CRC)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:49:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Update an update format file
Organization: HP-Sales Office-The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Patch PHKL_1337 has been changed. It now has A.08.00 and A.B8.00 in the
TARGET_OS string. The patch has been rebuilt.


Best regards,

Rob Slotemaker, Dutch Response Center
From: justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: When will HP supply PATCHES before they are Required?
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:24:38 GMT
    <17780300@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx30.mik.uky.edu!justin

In <17780300@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> perry@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes:

>>It's great that it's going to change :)  Seriously though, on an economic
>>point, what about litigation ?

>You are asking a software guy a legal question.  I am not qualified to
>answer.  I think HP covers its legal and moral obligations in these
>matters.

>The lawyers would make a lot of money and I don't think it would solve
>the technical problem.

That's a good point, although my mother thought it was very funny..
As an attorney, she could tell you that warranties and service contracts
carry this wonderful little strings that consumers can pull. Warranties
and service contracts (which are typically treated as warranties) carry
many implications.. Particularly under a service contract, an HP attorney
couldn't tell me that my operating system was sold "as-is," because that's
what the software agreement takes care of. Therefore, HP would be required
to fix the problem (in my case, with the frecover bug, they did) or 
reimburse me as a result of their error (the ones they're not supposed to make)

If someone WERE to litigate, it COULD result in a federal judge deciding that
HP needed to make whatever changes were necessary to avoid future problems.
It's not our (the consumers') fault that you have a bazillion patches and
five million centers that make it impossible to pull everything together
and get it out to your customers (who pay good money for this kind of stuff). 

It's not just the technical aspect, either.. Sales took eight months to get
their act straight with the expensive service contract we bought.. I couldn't
get the on-site service we paid for because someone kept neglecting to make
sure everything was done right on the paperwork. Since I didn't get what I
paid for, I'm going to demand that HP give me one year of service from the
date they finally issued a proper contract (last week). If they refuse,
we could litigate. :) 

Other then the ocassional BS like that, I think HP is a terrific company.
It would be #1 (and wouldn't have suffered the incredible loss in profit
they just reported) if they could get their act together..

Do you know how ANNOYING it is not to be able to call the support number
with 5 questions and having to wait to get 5 calls back from god knows
how many response centers!?
From: cary@esl.com (Cary Jamison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: lp information
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:24:20 GMT
Organization: ESL, A Subsidiary of TRW

In article <1992Dec16.095305.12310@walter.cray.com>, neshba@cray.com (Nesheim Byron A) writes:
> 
> a FAQ not in the FAQ.
> Where is the destination printer name and destination system name
> stored on an HPUX system for remote printers. Its aggrevating not
> to be able to have this info immediately available.
> 
> ps sunos 4.1 --> lpstat -v (cr)
> device for sluggpp is the remote printer sluggpp on sluggo.nnn.nnn

On HP-UX 8.0 it is stored in the binary file /usr/spool/lp/pstatus.  I can't
tell you the layout of the file, but you can do a strings on it and see the
remote host names by the printer names.

------------
Cary Jamison
cary@esl.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mac@mercury.Harris-ATD.com (Mike McDonald)
Subject: CD-ROM Problem/Question
Organization: Advanced Technology Dept, Harris Corp, Melbourne, FL
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:51:45 GMT

  When I tried to mount a CD, I got:

mount: bad "standard id" on /dev/dsk/2s0

  Any ideas? (HP9000/750; HP-UX 8.07)


  Mike McDonald				Advanced Technology Dept.	
					Harris Corp.
  Email: mac@trantor.harris-atd.com	M.S. 16-1912
  Voice: (407) 727-5060			P.O. Box 37
  Fax:   (407) 729-3363			Melbourne, Florida 32902

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Subject: Re: HP Apollo 9000 Series 715/33, 715/50
Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
Reply-To: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Organization: Stanford University Academic Information Resources
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 23:47:30 GMT

In article <1fj3d0INNf39@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, dave@hpdstma (Dave Waller) writes:
>In article <1992Dec2.005618.27244@athena.mit.edu>, ankleand@mtl.mit.edu (Andrew Karanicolas) writes:
>|> I'm posting this for a friend in our lab.
>|> 
>|> Here are the questions concerning HP Apollo 9000 Series 715/33,
>|> 715/50:
>|> 
>|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|> Can either of these machines simultaneously have an ethernet port and
>|> a EISA slot?
>
>Yes. In fact, the only difference between the /50 and the /33 is the clock
>speed -- other than that they are identical. Therefore, any comments that
>apply to one apply to the other.

There is one other difference that may be critical for some people:  The /33
maxes out at 48M, the /50 at 64M.
-- 
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                such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: denisl@bnr.ca (Denis Langlais)
Subject: HPUX anonmous ftp site and xmkmf
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:01:11 GMT

Thank you to the 2 people who have told me about the anonymous
ftp site    "ftp.csc.liv.ac.uk".  It seems to have many
good HP programs.  

However, I have untarred one X based program
and the instructions tell me to run   "xmkmf".
I can't find this on the anonymous ftp site or on my HP machine 
running HPUX 8.0.

Any ideas on where to get this for HPUX 8.0?

-- 
Denis Langlais    Internet:  denisl@bnr.ca 
BNR Ltd.         
My opinions are my own
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ayr@gtech.com (Aleksey Y. Romanov)
Subject: PPP or SLIP for HP 9000/7xx ?
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich RI
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:22:16 GMT



Hi,

Are there any commercial PPP or SLIP available to run on HP 9000/7xx.

I can consider PD ones,however, I really would like to get a reliable supported
product.




-- 
Aleksey Y. Romanov

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed are entirely my own and do not
necessary reflect those of my employer or anyone else
From: alech@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Alec Henderson)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:04:03 GMT
Subject: Re: PPP or SLIP for HP 9000/7xx ?
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

ayr@gtech.com (Aleksey Y. Romanov) writes:

>Are there any commercial PPP or SLIP available to run on HP 9000/7xx.
>
>I can consider PD ones,however, I really would like to get a reliable supported
>product.

All versions of HP-UX 8.0x include ppl, the "Point-to-Point
Link", which is an implementation of SLIP.  For more information,
try man ppl or see HP manual 98194-60522 "Using Serial Line IP
Protocols".

HP does not currently supply an implementation of either CSLIP or
PPP.  Morning Star Technologies is currently working on a port of
their PPP product to HP-UX.

Regards,
Alec Henderson

Telephone: T/408-447-3965		Hewlett-Packard
FAX:       408-447-3660			Information Networks Division
E-mail:    alech@cup.hp.com	       	19420 Homestead Road MS 43L9
HPDesk:    Alec Henderson/HP6600/1B	Cupertino, CA  95014  (USA)
From: johnm@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (John McCarthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: vendor independent file system format for M-O drives
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:16:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpgrla.54680001
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO


|> Is there a file-system format I could format such a media to that has a
|> liklihood of working across vendor platforms?  I know that ISO-9660/Rock
|> Ridge was intended to be such a format for CD-ROMs ... is it possible
|> (or even desirable) to format M-O/RW media with that format so that it
|> can be taken from system to system?

    You might try using cpio -o|i to write/read the data on optical (or tape).

    Something like

    $ cd <appropriate dir>
    $ find . -print | cpio -oacB |  dd ibs=5k obs=32k of=/dev/rdsk/mo

    should work

    when you get home try

    $ cd <appropriate dir>
    dd if=/dev/rdsk/mo | cpio -icumdB

    Of course you have to have your filesystem on local hard disk but you
    can transport your data.

|Also, I'd think twice about using the MO drive as a home drive. It's slow,
|like really slow, to use. Well, maybe not that slow, but I'd think
|twice about using it as a heavily used filesystem.

    Depends on which drive your using:).  Try HP's new C1716C/F!

John "my views are my own, etc" McCarthy
HP/Greeley Storage Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean)
Subject: Re: could not reopen stderr?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:11:11 GMT
Distribution: world 
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Penghui Ma (pypm@trentu.ca) wrote:
> We have a hp9000/400.  Today I suddendly encounted such a problem: I
> cannot use "more".  It alwayse returned "could not reopen stderr".  How
> to fix this?

Your /dev/tty is messed up somehow.  This is what it should look like:

  crw-rw-rw-   1 root     other      2 0x000000 Dec 11 17:35 /dev/tty

--
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This does not reflect the official position of Hewlett-Packard Company
in any way, shape or form.  Everyone else in the company may disagree
with what I say.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pdt@athena.mit.edu (Patrick D Tepesch)
Subject: high speed modem problems too!
Keywords: modem
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:21:24 GMT

Recently someone asked about how to get high speed modems working on
a 730.  I am having exactly the same problem, and have exactly the same
question, but I'll state it again:

If someone has a high speed (9600/14400 baud) modem working on a 720/730
running HPUX/8.06 (or any OS for that matter), what do the gettydefs and 
inittab files look like?  What are the modem settings?  I am using a
suprafax modem v.32bis.  The modem would like hardware handshaking but can
be set to not use it.  I think I have tried almost every modem/computer
setting except the one that makes it work.

If anyone knows how to get this working please post the answer, or send
me mail.

Thanks,

Patrick

pdt@mit.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ppl@grafikus.fct.unl.pt (Pedro Prospero Luis [lugo])
Subject: HPGL wanted
Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:36:29 GMT


Does someone knows how to get information on HPGL ?

Thanks in advance,

Pedro

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