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From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: Metro Musings
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:21:38 GMT

In article <1itlsjINNh1a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>The Metro has really dropped off after sending 4 teams to the NCAA Tournament
>last year.  I see only 2 candidates for at-large bids, Louisville and Tulane.
>If Louisville manages to drop more than 2 or 3 of these conference games,
>they will probably lose any chance of an at-large bid.  Is anyone else
>watching this piddly conference? ;)  I'd be interested to hear opinions of
>non-UofL Metro fans.


I have heard rumors that Tulane and Louisville are looking into joining the
Great Midwest Conference....

Of course the same as been said about Notre Dame, Temple, Rutgers, West
Virgina, George Washington, UMASS!!, Rhode Island etc.....
and nothing has happened (except for Dayton joining)
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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: That was no lady ...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 00:11:27 GMT
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conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt) writes:
>crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>>micah@ravl.rice.edu (Micah Samuel Rosen) writes:
>>>
>>>In a recent posting ( SWC/Pac10 Challenge - Women's Bball )
>>>we had the Lady Raiders, the Lady Huskies, the Lady Cougars,
>>>and the always alliterative Lady Longhorns. What's the
>>>point? Why not just Red Raiders, Huskies etc.?
>>
>>In fact, the posting was incorrect.  There is no such thing as the 
>>"Lady Huskies".  The team is called the "Huskies".  My suspition is that
>>the author made an assumption that the prefix "Lady-" was justified
>>since in many areas of the country, the women's teams are called that.
>>This is not truein the Pac Ten.
>
>My assumption was based on the fact that that's what the official
>program said and how the announcers referred to them.  I plead 
>innocence!  So the question is, are they ladies or not?

Official program or no, when I go to the game tonight at Hed-Ed, the 
announcer will call them the "Huskies", the game programs here will call
them the "Huskies", and their shirts and warmups will be emblazoned with
the word "Huskies".  Nowhere will be found the term "Lady Huskies".  I'll
retract my accusation about you making an assumption that they were called
the "Lady Huskies" and pass it on to the Sports Information Director or
some other dweeb in the athletic department at Texas or Texas Tech.

>Paul (I'm way confused, now)

Cliff (Oh yeah, well try to figure out Reagonomics...)

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Who's Number 2?
Summary: You Are Number 6
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:26:00 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <ASH.93Jan4084025@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>In article <78991@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>
>   >There are some voices calling for Michigan as #2 since they've beaten
>   >3 top 25 teams.  But UK also beat 3 top 25 teams this season - Indiana, 
>   >Georgia Tech, and Louisville (who no longer grace the list).  And unlike
>   >Michigan, they haven't been defeated.
>
>Louisville doesn't belong in the list.  

Well, they did according to the opinions of the voters at the time the game 
was played.  Not that I expect it to happen, but what if Kansas and/or North
Carolina take a nosedive and lose for the rest of the season.  Would that
remove the luster of the Michigan wins against them, at this point in their 
seasons?  Hardly.

>Georgia Tech can't compare to UNC or Kansas.  

No, but Indiana is (or was) in that same class.

>And the reason they haven't been defeated yet is that
>UK hasn't played at Duke.  

Or perhaps the reason that Duke is still undefeated is that they 
haven't played at Kentucky yet, either.

Just another perspective.

>Nevertheless, I believe the polls will
>put UM at #3, UK at #2.  Who will be #4?
>-Alan Harder                

The latest AP poll isn't out yet (or if it is I haven't seen it),
but the CNN/USA Today poll now has:

1.  Duke
2.  Kentucky
3.  Michigan
4.  Indiana
5.  North Carolina
6.  Kansas
7.  Seton Hall
8.  Iowa
9.  Purdue
10. Oklahoma

according to the usa.today.sports newsgroup.

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From: singh@julius.cs.uiuc.edu (Rajendra Singh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UNC vs NCSU
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:40:16 GMT
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Organization: University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

>>>>> On 11 Jan 93 12:08:02 GMT, swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) said:
> Is Les Robinson's job in jeporady?  I've noticed that he has done poorly
> in recruiting lately; I don't think he snatched a single top 150 player 
> (this is hard to believe).  If this is true, then it looks like NCSU
> is going to be the ACC doormat for some years to come.

It should be noted that he was extremely close to having a remarkable
good class.  Stackhouse (and hence McInnis) had NCSU as a finalist
before deciding on UNC, as did Chris Kingsbury before deciding on
IOWA (I think it was him anyway).  #3, #12, #18, and it's a top
class.

With the lingering corrupt image of Wolfpack basketball, and the
apparent general admiration for Robinson and the way he runs the
program, I think it unlikely for NCSU to fire him.  What's the
word on campus?

peace,
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From: joo@postman.hsn.no (Jan Oddvar Olsen)
Subject: Big Sky Conference
Organization: Nordland College
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:38:39 GMT

Howdy!

Any updates or info from the Big Sky Conference would be appreciated from an 
old IDAHO VANDAL currently in Norway.

Jan-Oddvar Olsen
Nordland College
8002 Bodoe
Norway
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From: ardalan@astrosun.aero.org (Shadan M. Ardalan)
Subject: Re: B. Knight transfers
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:53:34 GMT

In article <8403@news.duke.edu> whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY) writes:
>Since Isiah Thomas was on this list, I figured I would add Jay
>Edwards, who also left early and was quite a player.
>
>-Will

Oh, BTW, where the heck is Jay Edwards these days?
I haven't heard ANYTHING about him since he left IU (and took a possible
national championship with him....but that's left for the what-if crowd)
Anyway, where is he and what is he doing?

Just wondering,
Shadan
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Duke-Tech game
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:25:27 CST

In article <8395@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.135614.3381@infonode.ingr.com> jim@dap.b29.ingr.com (Jim Weeks) writes:
>>In article <79317@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>>|> Any brave souls out there willing to predict that Tech will upset Dook on
>>|> Sunday?  Just interested is all.  I just stood in line to get my student 
>>   
>>    OK, I'll do it ..G.T. by 5 or more. 
>
>Aw hell, if you're gonna run with the big boys you gotta do it with
>gusto.  I'll say Tech over Duke by at least 22 points, with Travis Best
>dominating Bobby Hurley, scoring a career-high 37 points while shutting
>out Hurley and forcing him into 28 turnovers.

Anti-woofing whimps!
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From: schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: KU thumps Oklahoma in Norman
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:40:25 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Just got the final score from Norman, Oklahoma:

KU 96
OU 85

The first half was close, but the second was all Hawks.  Walters is
finally breaking his slump.  And Pauley got his wake-up call from the
Michigan game and has played great ever since

I just figured I'd post this score to the 2 or 3 other Big Eight fans
out there -- let's hear some Big 8 talk soon....
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From: singh@julius.cs.uiuc.edu (Rajendra Singh)
Subject: Re: UNC on radio
Organization: University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:22:37 GMT

Back when I was a wee lad, I used to listen to UNC games on the
radio regularly.  I remember them mentioning something about
being broadcast on Armed Forces Radio (or somesuch) around the
world.  Do they still do this?  If so, where can I find it
(maybe short wave)?

thanx,
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From: rich@psipost.UUCP (Rich Main)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UNC effect???
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:31:32 GMT
Organization: Post Software International, Wake Forest, NC

In article <1993Jan6.134252.28991@seq.uncwil.edu>, harveyc@seq.uncwil.edu (harveyc chet x) writes:
> titlow@zephyr.larc.nasa.gov (jay titlow) writes:
  
>>Dean has always said that Carolina fans are above the others by not yelling
>>"BULLSH-T" after bad calls, and not waving their arms behind the basket when

> It's called winning with class and on on occassion losing with class. Dean 

Yeah, right.  Like when the "wine and cheese" crowd went berserk and
cut down the nets after beating Duke last year.  Dean and the wealthy
alumni who pay big bucks to SIT near the court in his dome may have
this holier-than-thou attitude, but plenty of Carolina fans are as
"obnoxious" and "classless" as fans everywhere can be (they are just
relegated to the cheap seats in the nosebleed section).

Personally, I prefer the "classless" Carolina fans.  At least they pull
hard for their team and have some fun doing it (rather than muttering
"BULLSH-T" under their breath whilst sipping Chardonnay and munching on
brie).

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From: "Sid Kitchel" <kitchel@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Kentucky over Indiana
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:55:30 -0500

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>I think Bobby has the ref's "trained" by now, and he knows it.  He doesn't
>need to yell at them anymore.  Hell, most of the time he is up, he is
>yelling at his players.

	Well, the officiating was so bad last night during IU-Iowa
that both Bobby and Dr. Tom were yelling. Both were using some very
basic Saxon English. Acie and the Iowa capt. asked to speak to the
refs. twice and were whining on the floor the whole game. Iowa
appeared to be complaining about missed fouls. On the IU side, the
refs. were missing a bunch of travelling calls on Iowa.

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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Marty Blake on Hurley
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:05:51 GMT

In article 18604@samba.oit.unc.edu, jmk.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Jim Kirkman) writes:
>|Anybody hear the Ga. Tech radio feed on Sun.? CHL picked it up
>|locally. Anyway they interviewed Marty Blake, the chief scout
>|for the NBA scouting combine (or whatever they call it). He had
>|some interesting comments on Hurley and an article published in
>|the Atlanta paper. The article was basically a rave for Bobby,
>|lottery pick, point guard extroardinaire, second coming etc.
>|Blake basically said hogwash, he likes Hurley but sees him as no
>|more than a possible 1st or 2nd rounder. His main point seemed to
>|be that Bart would have a helluva time guarding people like 
>|Stockton, Price, et. al. The most interesting comment was in 
>|regards to Kenny Anderson, said Hurley "hasn't seen the day he 
>|could stay with Anderson" !!!???
>|Of course then there's Packer who called him what, the toughest 
>|player he's ever seen! Cummon  Fudge!
>|Should be a great game Wed nite in the Dome!! At least the Heels 
>|match up well from a size standpoint with Tech.
>|
>|L.P.
>|
>|
>|
>|-


Although I love Kenny Anderson, I don't think Blake had enough coffee 
that morning.  Don't forget Marty Blake also said that Johnny MacNeil
and Maurice Brittain were sure first round picks.  He also whips out
the "I discovered Scotty Pippen" routine once too often.  He is very
good at assessing the Tech team because he lives in Atlanta, which also
means that his views are somewhat warped by familiarity.

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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke/Oklahoma
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:40:16 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>I've seen 2 teams that have impressed me this year: IU and Duke. Both teams
>play with outrageous concentration and awareness.

IU?  I thought that IU's defense was awful against Kentucky in the first
half. IU allowed Kentucky to make so many three-point shots uncontested, 
and, if I remember right, Kentucky made 11 three-point shots in the first
half for 33 points.  How can any respectable team allow 11 3-pt shots
in a single half?

Duke generally is good because of its defense.  However, in the second
half against Oklahoma, Duke certainly was awful.  Defense, offense, 
fastbreaks, layups, dribbling, passing, rebounding, free throw shooting,
etc.  You name it and Duke sure did it badly.

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From: drkellic@sgidr2.sdrc.com (Scott Kellicker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UC Bearcats - Corie Blount?
Keywords: Cats
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:09:22 GMT
Organization: SDRC

Steve,

Is this the Steve Hittle of UC's EE class of 1988.  Send me e-mail off-line
if you'd like .. it would be great to hear from you.

On to the subject at hand:  word is around here (Cincinnati) that Blount will
be back once the NCAA forms a committee to look into it.  But, he won't be
back until the Jan 16th game.  The news media in Cincinnati is talking like it's
a sure thing, but I hate to count on it.  UC's playing good ball but they lack
a big man-- all of us UC fans are saying an extra prayer to that omnipotent
power, the NCAA.

Good to hear from you.

Skelly
(Scott Kellicker)
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From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Subject: Re: Kevin Johnson played for...?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:16:22 GMT

In article <7JAN199300491832@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> rchen@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (chen, richard) writes:
>>|> 
>>Kevin Johnsen played for the Univ. of California (at Berkeley) from 82-86.
>> 
>I think he played there from '83 to '87.  There were a couple of other decent
>players on his team (Chris Washington and Dave Butler), but none made the NBA.

Don't forget Leonard Taylor and Jeff Huling.  Taylor was a great player.
Huling never shot, but played great defense.  

That was the team that beat UCLA in 1986 to end Cal's 52 game losing streak
to the Bruins.  I was yelling/screaming so much at that game that I lost my
voice before the end of the first half.  I also brought a pair of scissors
to the game.  A Cal player (Jon Wheeler) took them from me after the
game and they were used to cut down the net at the North end of Harmon.
I still have the scissors and a 6 inch peice of the net. 

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From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: Virginia under, FSU over.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:35:13 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

In article 16732@samba.oit.unc.edu, Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
>Bill:
>
>>  Many
>> people have told me that FSU was ranked high because of how
>> they were expected to do when Charlie Ward arrived.  Well guess
>> what?  He was there last night.  I just don't buy it.
>
>I don't either. What am I missing here? Charlie Ward is talented, but I
>think Sam Cassell is better, and it's a shame if they think they need him
>to win. Maybe they do, and he will no doubt contribute, but that team
>should not feel like he is their saving grace.
>
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C'mon guys!  You don't know anything about FSU basketball if you think Sam
Cassell is better than Charlie Ward (at POINT guard).  Sam is good as a
SHOOTING guard but is no where near as good as Charlie at running the
offense.  Plus Charlie plays good hustling defense (and accounts for more 
than his share of steals) in addition to his offensive contributions.  What
FSU is missing are three main cogs (Andre Reid (broken bone), Chuck Graham
(broken bone), and Charlie Ward (just now back from football and NOT in
basketball shape)) from last year's sweet 16 team!  The two guys with
broken bones are apparently out for the season, but Charlie will get back
into shape and his leadership on the court and point guard ability should
really begin to help in the next few weeks.  And then maybe Pat Kennedy
should be able to sleep a little better at night.

D. Head
FSU '91
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From: msherrick@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Request for Cincy Bearcats schedule
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:26:28 GMT
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada

I would appreciate it if someone would email me the Cincinnati Bearcats 
remaining schedule. Thanks in advance.

Mike Sherrick
msherrick@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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From: ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight: A Year-by-Year Chronology
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:33:09 GMT

In article <1is44fINNpp7@meaddata.meaddata.com> bobj@meaddata.com (Robert  
Jones) writes:
> In article <104186@netnews.upenn.edu>, rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich  
Kulawiec) writes:
> |> 1979  Knight is charged, and later tried in absentia, for hitting a  
Puerto
> |> Rican policeman before a United States practice session for the Pan  
American
> |> Games basketball tournament.  Knight was sentenced to six months in  
jail
> |> but the government of Puerto Rico decided in 1987 to drop efforts to
> |> extradite him.
> 
> This is probably Knight's worst incident.

If this is his worst incident, then the man must be a saint. It is  
technically correct that Knight was *charged with* hitting a policeman,  
but the many witnesses to the incident (players on the Pan-Am team and  
several assistent coaches, including Pete Newell, Fred Taylor, and Mike  
Kryczewski) unanimously stated that the facts were otherwise.

Knight had asked the cop to enforce the exclusive-access rule, since it  
was the USA team's turn to practice and the Brazilian women were making a  
commotion. He was only asking for the same access that everyone else was  
entitled to in their proper turn. The cop, who apparently had a strong  
anti-USA complex, began lecturing Knight and generally making an ass of  
himself. During his harangue he gestured wildly in Knight's direction  
several times and finally poked Knight in the eye. Knight, taken by  
surprise, instinctively put up an arm in self-defense and, in the process,  
brushed against the cop.

That was when the cop charged him with assault.

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