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From: orville%weyrich@tnet.com (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Including OS/2 in a small work-group
Reply-To: tnet.com!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 05:20:10 GMT

Hi --

I am really trying hard to find a use for OS/2 :-)

But I keep coming up with missing pieces to every puzzle I try to solve.

Can anyone help me find the missing pieces?

OS/2 has a great HPFS that would make it well suited for a usenet news
server (for example). :-)

For about $300/node I can set up TCP/IP and NFS to share files between
OS/2 and MS-DOS/Windows platforms :-(

If I leave OS/2 out of the picture, I can use Novell NetWare Lite to get
the same functionality as TCP/IP and NFS in a small local area net, for
only about $70/node. :-)

But then I am stuck with a FAT file system. :-(

What I really want is Novell NetWare Lite for OS/2 or else a much cheaper
source for TCP/IP and NFS for DOS/Windows [I want DOS nodes to be able to
"publish" network volumes as well as "mount" them.]

Does anyone have any idea of a way that I can get this functionality at a
reasonable cost?

I don't consider Novell Regular 2.xx or 3.xx to be reasonable cost --
what I want is a simple inexpensive peer-to-peer network that 8086
and 80286 processor nodes can participate in.

Or have the vendors involved (Novell, IBM, etc.) conspired to suppress
the functionality that I want in order to enhance sales of more expensive
solutions [that may be worth it if I needed their full functionality,
which I don't]? :-(

Someone on the net suggested that I get a patch for OS/2 that would run
NWLITE in a DOS box, but I can't find the file "netwlsrv.zoo" on the
FTP server that I was told to look on [hobbes] -- I think that they just 
reorganized their directory structure. Anyone know where to get this 
patch?


orville

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From: chapman@acf3.NYU.EDU (Gary W. Chapman, , , )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Netware for Macintosh 3.011 upgrade details?
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:17:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

>And I'd like to know if there are changes in 3.01 to 3.011 which go
>beyond what apple distributed in ATSUP.ZIP on NetWire (consisting of

Uh, Novell (not apple).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: OODNG@livid.uib.no
Subject: Updated packet drivers
Organization: University of Bergen
Date: 31 Jul 1992 15:08:33 EMT

Does anyone know where to find updated versions of the NCSA packet drivers
for Netware? (pdipx, WD8003-cards etc.).  The drives should be compatible
with Windows 3.1.
Thank you.
      Nils R. Gjerdet (Gjerdet@odont.uib.no)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: phong@kurangocit.gu.edu.au (Phong Thanh La)
Subject: Re: Telnet and stuff on ipx/spx?
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 06:55:48 GMT

: But you are NOT running "Telnet or FTP over an IPX protocol stack" when you
: do this.  You are using the ODI driver to share a single network interface
: between two protocol stacks using completely distincts sets of protocols.
: IPXODI is the IPX protocol stack.  ODIPKT plus your TCP/IP stack that uses a
: packet-driver interface is the other stack, using IP, ARP, and maybe RARP.
: You don't have to load IPXODI at all for the ODIPKT-plus-your-TCP/IP stack to
: function.  All it requires is the ODI driver (LSL plus your MLID network
: interface driver).
--

Do you know if this odipkt supports "ni5210" ethernet card? When I try 
to run odipkt, it always return with an error :

"cannot get MLIB control entry"

and my net.cfg as bellow :

Link support
        buffers 10 2048

Protocol IPX
        Bind ni5210

Link driver ni5210
        int 5
        port 330
        envelope type ETHERNET_II
        envelope type ETHERNET_802.3

NetWare NetBios
        Sessions 128
        Commands 128


Cheers, bye.
Phong.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: request for help on IP routing
From: kwang@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kevin Wang aka The Scarecrow)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:02:49 GMT
Organization: The Outland Riders
Keywords: IP routing netware 3.11

In comp.sys.novell keith@novell.com (Keith Brown) writes:
>In article <edndowne.711507525@kraken> edndowne@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Barry Downes) writes:
>>
>>       campus backbone (TCP/IP)  132.234.3
>>----|------------------------IP----------|-----------------------------------
>>    |  Building P                        |   Building Q
>> +--|------------------+             +---|-----------------+
>> + [NE2000]     server +             + [NE2000]     server +
>> +              TROJAN +             +              EUCLID +
>> +         132.234.3.2 +             +         132.234.3.4 +
>> + [NI6510]            +             + [NI6510]            +
>> +--|------------------+             +--|------------------+
>>    | local network (IPX & IP)          | local network (IPX & IP)
>>    |                                   |
>>  10BT hub                            10BT hub
>>  | | | | |                           | | | | |  
>>  |                                   |
>>  |                                   |
>>  netware client A (132.234.3.11)     netware client B (132.234.3.10)
>
>No, this isn't how you route IP at all. You don't specify whether you are
>using a subnet mask but this does not appear to be relevant seeing
>as all your addresses are the same down to the last few bits.
>A complete discussion if IP routing is beyond the scope of this
>post but read appendix B of the TCP/IP supervisors guide in the Netware 3.11
>box.

KEY NOTE:  the current version of tcpip.nlm with forward=yes
option turned on will NOT allow you to access the rest of the world.
the tcpip.nlm will NOT route between two subnets that match under the
mask, therefore if you have two cards in the server with the addresses as:
129.65.43.5 and 129.65.43.2, with the mask ff.ff.ff.00, you 
will NOT be able to forward ip packets between the two network cards
(say you wanted to telnet from your local machine to uunet.com...

as for the ip tunneling, I really could not tell you what to do...

   - Kevin Wang
...And now, for your local station identification, on the hour, every hour...
kwang@hermes.calpoly.edu or kwang@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu
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From: csscudmo@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Scott Cudmore)
Subject: Latest Version of NW 2.15 IPX???
Originator: csscudmo@atlas.cs.upei.ca
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:40:23 GMT


Can anyone out there tell me what the latest version of Netware 2.15
IPX is? Is it 3.10 and if so, is there an anonymous ftp site that I can
download it from?


Scott 
-- 
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Answer:   Canadians don't change light bulbs, we accept them for what they
          are. 
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From: nsharma@sharm.uucp (Nawien Sharma)
Subject: how is Netware RIP different than RFC1058 RIP ?
Organization: Sharmtech Systems Inc., Willowdale, Ont., Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:19:45 GMT


How is RIP implemented differently in Netware compared to RIP in IP networks
with the exception of the added TICK field in the message ?
-- 
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106 Norton Avenue, Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2N 4A5
(TEL): 416-512-7878 (UUCP): sharm.UUCP
From: dans@rehab2.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: LWP Telnet to port number
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:54:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: rehab2.559
Reply-To: dans@rehab2.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Organization: Reading Rehab Hospital, Reading PA

In article <brian.4.0@Novell.COM> brian@Novell.COM (Brian Meek) writes:
#In article <1992Jul14.204910.2214@novell.com> donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
#>The way to do what you want is to add the following two lines to your
#>lwp.ini file:
#>
#>[Host Presenter]
#>HostPort=3000
#>
#>After this, host presenter will start talking to port 3000 instead of
#>port 23.  But it will *only* talk to 3000.  To get host presenter to
#>talk to the default port 23 again, you have comment this HostPort line
#>out.  I think you have to reload host presenter to have any change in
#>port take effect.
#
#If this sounds like a last minute kludge...  that's because it was (mostly
#for testing purposes).  This also why it's undocumented except in the 
#Release Notes.  In the next version LWP, Host Presenter is much more 
#flexible in this respect.
#
   Kludge is a nice way of wording it, but then your a novell employee
  and they pay you to be nice about their kludges ;-) What I want to
  know is when will this next version appear and what does "much more
  flexible" mean? Will it work as easy as the command line version or
  require some form of torture to gain access to a different port?

  -Dan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: william@ravel.udel.edu (Wild William)
Subject: Charon 3.4 (Questions)
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:50:50 GMT

I got the 3.4 version of charon, I thought it was s'posed to allow
printing from unix to novell and vice versa?

anyone know about this?

william@chopin.udel.edu
william york
From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell to TCP/IP bridges or gateways?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:42:41 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Jul22.230224.25041@lmv.lm.se>, urbans@lmv.lm.se (Urban Sundstrom) writes:
> In article <14kcjsINNcr8@agate.berkeley.edu> sowings@ocf.berkeley.edu (Sanford Owings) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul9.161305.8389@news.uni-stuttgart.de> skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok) writes:
>>>I want to be able to connect a Novell-Lan consisting of 10 Workstations
>>>plus one server with a TCP/IP-Lan of seven UN*X workstations. More
>>>specifically I'd like to be able to run NCSA-telnet on the Novell-PC's
>>>to connect to the UN*X-boxes. 
>>>
>>>What hardware do I need?
>>
> 
>>
>>>Is there any public domain solution?
>>
>>Sorry, no.  With Novell's market share, they don't have to give things away.
>>
>>Good luck!  Sanford Owings <sowings@ocf.berkeley.edu>
> 
> THERE IS A PUBLIC DOMAN SOLUTION !!!!  Use the Clarkson University
> Packet drivers, available by ftp from many places.
> 
> Get it from sun.soe.clarkson.edu or pullux.lu.se
> 
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - BEST REGARDS,  URBAN - -  - - - - - - - - - - - -
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------------
	And, while not Public Domain, there is another FREE solution available
too. Which is Novell's ODI drivers for clients plus MS-DOS Kermit v3.12.
LWP/DOS works fine that way (ipso facto, by design shall we say) but costs some
money. Kermit provides Telnet but not FTP (use the Kermit protocol instead).
	Joe D.
From: h236_031@ccvax.ucd.ie (Damien Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Any experience with HP JetDirect card?
Date: 24 Jul 92 04:33:47 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

Does anyone out there have any experience with teh HP JetDirect ethernet
interface for the bog standard HP LaserJet III..  i.e. is it worth the money,
is there a noticeable performance increase etc.??

I've installed the JetDirect for the IIISi, and I'm just wondering whether the
III version is worth the money..

Thanks in advance,


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: al045@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gergely Tapolyai)
Subject: Files disappear! Why?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:00:59 GMT


I am having some major problems.  I have 6 servers running NW3.11.

Periodically some of the files, just disapear, for no appearent 
reason.  I do incremental backups every night, and weekly backups
of each server.  This keeps me from ripping all my hair out, but
it makes life still a hell.  I am not low in either disk space
(still have about a 500megs on each server), nor in memory (every
one of the servers have 32megs).  Could it be that the ArcServe is
eating my files for a midnight snack?  Please say no it does not.
Anyone with some ideas?
-- 
TAPOLYAI, Gergely                al045@cleveland.freenet.edu
                                 Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A.
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Ethernet_II vs. 802.3 Help Needed
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:40:10 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California

In article <92204.210403AI4CPHYW@MIAMIU.BITNET> <AI4CPHYW@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
>What I want to know is if there are any other options?  Can I set a
>bridge or router to translate packets from 802.3 to Ethernet_II?

On any NetWare 3.11 server connected to this network, load the
ethernet driver twice to create two logical boards: one with
frame=ethernet_802.3 and the other with frame=ethernet_ii.  Once
you've done that, it's as if you have two completely independent LANs
connected to the server; they just happen to share the same physical
cable, but they don't know about each other.  Now bind IPX to both
logical boards.  Remember that IPX believes these are different
networks, so be sure to give them different network numbers.  Once
you've done that, NetWare will route normally between the two
networks and all your machines should be able to see each other.

>Or have I been stuck in the unenviable position of having to reset
>IPX on 200+ machines.

If you have the energy, you might still want to switch to ethernet_ii
framing.  Once you have this "router" set up, you can switch each node
over one by one at your leisure rather than having to upgrade all 200
machines in one shot.  You might be able to do something fancy like
upgrade each machine as part of the login process.

						don provan
						donp@novell.com
From: chapman@acf3.NYU.EDU (Gary W. Chapman, , , )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Netware for Macintosh 3.011 upgrade details?
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:16:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

>We just got our upgrade postcard in the mail for Netware for Macintosh
>3.011.  Unfortunately, the card provides no details regarding
>changes from 3.01.

And I'd like to know if there are changes in 3.01 to 3.011 which go
beyond what apple distributed in ATSUP.ZIP on NetWire (consisting of
enhancements to the Appletalk stack for reporting via SNMP).  In other
words, doesn't buying buy anything?

 - Gary Chapman, NYU
   chapman@nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dan@basil.eng.monash.edu.au (Daniel Grimm)
Subject: Re: PBurst disconnects Lan card! -- (almost)Related question.
Organization: Electrical & Computer Systems Eng. Dept., Monash Uni.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:16:26 GMT

In article <q-fmn_q.jjlink@netcom.com> jjlink@netcom.com (John J. Link) writes:

>I tried PBURST.NLM using a SMC Elite 16 Ethernet Combo card and the
>SMC latest drivers (4.2). I it works with PB BUFFERS= from 1 to 3, however
>when using the SMC/WD card?


I have been having a lot of trouble with Tiara Lancard E*/pc (8bit) cards.
The latest redesigned version with the little blue hybrid board and a big
ugly/wobbly yellow lump on it is the one I am referring to.

Our network has been growing (still within length specs, 4 repeaters) and I
am getting Error finding server, error reading configuration file, error 
sending on network,   from these cards when remote booting (or in the latter
error after managing a remote boot successfully).

Varying the length of the segment they sit on seems to solve the problem 
some times, but it seems to be a Traffic related problem.

What I would really like to know is whether the pburst (bnetx etc) will
work with packet drivers (ver 10) and which network cards are supported
(ie: do tiara etherstar cards work).
We occasionally get very heavy traffic (peaks up to 42% bandwidth of a 
couple of seconds), would the burst stuff improve this situation?
Thanks for any advice,
Dan Grimm
Dan Grimm
Dept. Elec & Comp. Sys. Engineering, Monash Uni. Australia.
ph.(+61 3) 565 3479, Fax 565 3454,     dan@basil.eng.monash.edu.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jdm1@eds1.eds.com (Jonathan D McCown)
Subject: Re: BYU packet driver IPX doesn't do SPX
Organization: Vogon Poets Society
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:26:42 GMT

nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:

>   Couldn't Novell make one available ? I am sure it would be worth their
>   money to have a "supported" packet driver interface!

>Politically unacceptable.  They've lined up all their ducks behind ODI.

Since we can all see how this kind of attitude is putting IBM into the
dustbin, I can't really believe that Novell is anxious to follow in their
footsteps.  The coffee is brewing...

On the other hand, if this is indeed Novell's position (responses welcome)
it will be factored in with other grievances_with/shortcomings_of their
product.  I am not a devout Novellist, and for us Netware was the least
of several evils.  At some point if the harrassment of using a product exceeds
reasonability _we_will_change_products_.  I'd _enjoy_ learning another net
product (yeah I know that's sick, but anyhow).

This organization may wind up being a Banyan shop yet. 

"We ARE the market."

 Jon McCown 
 Despite the mailing address, we are not affiliated with EDS.
 address soon to be jdm1@vogon1.pasen.gov

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From: tom@incom.de (Thomas Staudte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: HELP!!! How do you Un-Flag Execute Only on 3.11
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:00:54 GMT
Reply-To: tom@in.sub.org
Organization: Thomas Staudte EDV-Beratung, Germany

Hi fellow netters !

First of all, I meant to use the last backup you made before you flagged  
all your files EO.

Second, I don't think that NBACKUP would backup files flagged EO, as this  
would be a serious breach of that part of system security, as everybody  
has access to NBACKUP. I can't try it though, as I have the NFS name space  
on my volumes and NBACKUP doesn't like that. I will try on some other  
server the next few days and post, if NBACKUP does indeed work, which I  
doubt.

Third, XTree-Net doesn't work either. You can pretty easily mess around  
with all the flags - except with EO !

It should be possible, however, to use DISKED and patch the volume's  
directory table directly, but I've never tried it. I would also guess that  
restoring a backup or re-installing the software is both easier and safer.

Last, I would like to know _why_ it's impossible to un-flag EO. I don't  
think that it must be like that. But why didn't Novell allow just the  
supervisor to do that ?

HTH
Tom
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: David Magnuson <dlm5915@venus.tamu.edu>
Subject: Asante Ethernet Cards
Organization: Rec,Park & Tourism
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:31:39 GMT

Hello everyone,

I'm currently installing a Novell network in the department I work at and
came across a great price for some 16/8 bit ethernet cards.  I've heard
good things about thier Macintosh cards but can't fins anyone who has
tried thier IBM cards.  If anyone out there has tried please tell me how
they worked.

thanks!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: cantor@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor)
Subject: Re: Should I config 1740 as standard for ARCSERVE?
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:50:05 GMT

In article <TPL.92Jul29154300@markw.hpl.hp.com> tpl@hpcpbla.hpl.hp.com (Mark Watkins SW) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>  The Arcserve software performs much better with the 1740 card in STANDARD
>mode. There are, as yet, unresolved problems with that particular card in
>enhanced mode.
>
>Cheers,
>
>      Mark Watkins


	I posted awhile back about some severe server crashes caused by Arc-
serve with an Adaptec 1740.  I never got much response except people telling
me to make sure all the cards in the EISA machine I have were 32 bit, at least
as far as DMA and such.  I already knew that, but now the above seems to
indicate the exact opposite!

	Please correct me if I'm wrong, but standard mode on the card simply
means "do not use 32 bit addressing, but rather act as an ISA card."  If this
is so, then you cannot run the 1740 in an EISA machine with more than 16 megs
of RAM in standard mode.  And if you cannot, then if Arcserve really does have
some documented problems with enhanced mode (and if so, PLEASE let me know
any details you may have!), you cannot use the product in such a situation.

	I've been stymied by this problem for months now, and I am at my wit's
end.  If anyone has any details about the different modes of the 1740 and what
Arcserve can and can't work with, PLEASE mail me or post what you have.

			Thanks awfully!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: digiuser@endor.byu.edu (Robert Perkins)
Subject: Re: BYU packet driver IPX doesn't do SPX
Reply-To: Rob_Perkins@byu.edu
Organization: Brigham Young University -- Mathematics Department
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 19:44:38 GMT

In article <brian.19.0@Novell.COM> brian@Novell.COM (Brian Meek) writes:
 
> So one might ask: "why not support Packet Drivers".  Well, the fact that

What about ODIPKT.EXE? It sits on top of the ODI drivers and routes TCP/IP  
packets the same as packet drivers, but they just go through the ODI drivers  
instead.
--
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