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From: debra@creatures.cs.vt.edu (Debra Potts)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: WHUTTTTT????!  Jill slept with Victor?!
Keywords: Please post an update!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:12:50 GMT

I hope it IS a dream sequence, no matter how implausible!

I came in on the end of this one, but I caught Jill & Victor in
bed and smiling and talking about what great sex they had.  Yes,
Victor the creep actually used that tired old line that I believe
every single soap-woman in North America must've heard him utter
post-coitus:  "You are a very exciting woman."  What in the ***
does that mean?!?  Meanwhile, Jill is cooing that not in her
wildest "fantasies" did she dream she would end up in bed with
Victor.

He says teasingly that maybe she came to his place that night with
"a plan" because she wasn't her usual screaming bitchy self when
she found out about some of his previous day's board shuffling (he
ought to be shuffle-boarding, the old coot!  How can any woman
under the age of 45 get anything but the repulsing image of sleeping
with her grandfather at the thought of doing the dirty with Victor?) ugh

He says, "You're sure you might not have expected this?"  And she said
something about "Oh, no!  HOPED, maybe, but never dreamed it!"  I agree
with the previous poster(s) on this subject:  WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE
WRITERS OF THIS SHOW?  I can't even "suspend disbelief" enough to say
"What's wrong with Jill?"--this just doesn't make sense.  Even a character
as flighty as hers wouldn't be THAT stupid.

This just has brought up a wellspring of anger folks, at the writing of
the Victor character.  Only one more rant, I promise:  I wish that they
would FOR ONCE get real and treat this something like real life.  I wishe
(oops, wish) that all of "his" women would get together in group therapy
somehow and start laughing at the absurdity that such a geezer could have
held their attention as long as he did.  An "exciting" man?  Get real.

What in the hell does he do?  Have you ever heard one word of meaningful
conversation cross his lips?  Have you EVER heard him ask how Nicholas is
doing in school?  Have you ever ONCE heard him say Vikki was GREAT at her
school recital (or whatever) last night; she could really be a terrific
<insert career here>.  Have the writers ever given him any kind of "life"
outside his wonderful "prowess" at the helm of his companies?  NO!  They
should have an "Intervention" with him to tell him all the ways his old-
fashioned sexist attitudes and manipulative ways have hurt them and let
him know that he needs to get some professional help!  Then he could have
an emotional breakdown (yes, not bathing, not combing the hair, wearing
dirty sweatsuits around the house and eating frozen dinners right out of
the box!) wondering what the REAL purpose of his life has been.

I would LOVE to see something as provocative as this, and I can think of at
least 20 high-tension storylines that could be spun off from this as the
big Breakdown of Victor begins to affect the lives of those around him.

Brainstorm with me, people?  What do you think?

Yours curiously,
                        ......deb
From: steph@ivy.Princeton.EDU (Stephanie Eggers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Walt Willey
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:14:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Oct12.201452.19644
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Organization: Princeton University, Electrical Engineering Dept.
Originator: news@nimaster

From: jaholmes@ee.WPI.EDU (Jennifer Holmes)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA

(Stuff Deleted)

>Sheri,
>I don't want to burst your bubble, but a few months ago Walt Wiley was
>here in Shrewsbury, MA at a place called Shrewsburys, and let me tell
>you that although ``Jack'' is a nice guy, Walt is very, VERY arrogant,
>maybe he was just having a bad night but let me tell you...I was VERY
>dissapointed. :(  Try to have fun anyway.  P.S. he's HUGE in ``real-
>life!''

>jen

Well, I completely agree with you.  I went to a celebrity luncheon
not too long ago featuring Walt Willey and Andrew Jackson.  Andrew
seemed alot nicer and more down to earth.  Walt was very arrogant!!!!
Although he has a thing for women with dark hair and good tans.
Me and the girl I went with both have blond hair and fair skin so
I guess we didn't even rate being nice to.  After seeing him in
person I definately look at him differently on the show.

Stephanie Eggers
steph@ivy.princeton.edu
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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: AMC:  Carter sighting
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.141509.15731@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (The Conservative) writes:
>
> Sorry it wasn't Carter! It is an unknown actor who has been dating Jackie
>in real life for about 6 months. They were seen at the Emmy's together.

That's interesting... I had "heard" that Jackie is gay in real life.
My 'gaydar' certainly goes off when she walks into the room!  *If* the
Star is right (and that's a BIG *if*), then maybe she's bisexual.

I know, I know, it has nothing to do with AMC, but it's so
innnnnterrrrresssssttttinnnnggg.......  ?:^)
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
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From: eec@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edie Cheng)
Subject: Re: HF: 10/15/92 preempted?
Summary:  no episode shown
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:50:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.085136.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> sscalia@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>
>Was HF preempted last night?
>
>Thanks
>
>Santina
>

There was no episode of HF last night.  The episode from last week
said on the previews that the next episode would be aired next week
(i.e. 10/22).

Also, some random bits...

Someone said that the preview showed Jeff with Caroline??  I don't
remember seeing this at all, is it true?

And to the person who said she had a pro-union article that mentions
Homefront, I would be interested in hearing about it....

The spoilers about Anne and Al are exciting!!  I won't repeat what 
they are, but I can't wait for this show to continue unravelling!!

Lastly, I have an article on Harry O'Reilly (Charlie on the show) from
Soap Opera Digest, which I will type in when I have time.

Edie
From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Update for Friday, October 2, 1992
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:10:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Oct12.133328.11153@chpc.utexas.edu>, Joanna L. Castillo writes:

> [Ed. note:  Well, the relatives are all gone so here's your update 
> for two Fridays ago.  I will try and have this Friday's update out
> by tomorrow.]
> 
> DOOL update for Friday, October 2, 1992.
> 
> Tom & Alice's house:  Jack comes up from the basement after storing 
> the last of his and Jennifer's possessions.  Jennifer shows him her 
> last paycheck and says it combined with their savings is enough for a 
> down payment on their new house.


     Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jack already buy a house?
And wasn't Tanner helping with it?  OR am I just confused again?
I wish getting my mortgage had been as easy as just scraping together
the money for my deposit. :-).  And did Jenn lose her job?  What's
this last paycheck business?

BTW...good update, especially considering the characters you
were forced to watch. :-)

Rosita la Guavita
> Joanna.
> 
> | \____ ----- ____/           |  "Let's just be friends -- friends    |
> |      ( o o )                |  who never talk or see each other."   |
> |       \   /   Gus-ball!!    |      - David Letterman, 7-22-92       |
> |        (_)  Hook 'em Horns! |           pefv702@perv.pe.utexas.edu  |
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From: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: Just SPOILERS from SOD
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:51:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: oasys.26432
Reply-To: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Distribution: na
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis, MD

I am just posting spoilers from SOD.  Maybe I will be able to do the
rest later.

o  Warren desperately tries to keep vital info from Skyler.
o  Lilly gets motivation for loving Ted.
o  What shocking truth does Minx find revealed in her Tarot cards?
o  Jodie demands the truth from Sawyer about the night Frank died, but
   she is hiding something from him.
o  Sawyer must reluctantly make a shocking disclosure.
o  Reese and Jodie are motivated to take a trip together.

There was also an article about the cancellation of SB.

Leila

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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Subject: Re: SB - Friday Thoughts
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:26:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.144836.3206@u.washington.edu> dias@milton.u.washington.edu (Vivian Dias) writes:
>
>  Well, it looks like we may just be getting what we wanted.  Monday's
>  show finally showed BJ behaving like an adult.  She's appears ready
>  to face what she's blocking.  It looks like Warren's outburst was
>  what she needed to see that she doesn't have to face this alone.

It's about time BJ is behaving like an adult. Her whining was getting
to be very annoying. Warren must really love her because she has slapped
and stabbed him and he still sticks by her side. As much as I disagree,
I think she will not turn out to be the killer. I bet Dolly or the motel
owner for some reason killed Frank and she witnessed the murder. She
was so glad that Frank was killed that she found the murder weapon
and washed it off in the shower. What she is blocking out is witnessing
the murder. She got gun powder on her dress by handling the gun after
the real murderer got rid of it.

I want to say that I really liked Reese with Andie. I think he should
eventually go back to Jodie, but having an affair with this lovely woman
should provide interesting viewing. In the mean while he could get rid
of Ken (Ugh!) and have a daughter of his own with Andie. If Jodie finds
out that he is having an affair, she will probably throw Andie out the
window.

I'm very disappointed with Steve Nichols. He is soooooo boring. I don't
like Kelly and teaming him up with her does nothing for him. Unfortunately,
Kelly still annoys me and I  can't stand that the writers are giving her
so much air time. I find nothing appealing about her and having two
men, McCabe and Skyler, go after her is revolting.

I'm glad that they finally took Lilly away from Rafe. If she says that she
loves him one more time, I think it's a good reason to vomit. Lilly is
much better with Ted and I enjoyed her opening Ted's eyes to the fact
that he never loved Katrina and that he cares for Angela.

I'll shut up now and go back to work!
John
From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL:  George Jenesky (ex-Nick) play
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:58:19 GMT
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <7494@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com>, n.j.spera writes:

> HI folks - hadn't seen this posted - and thought some of you Nick fans
> would be interested - slow down Gauvita -
> 
>                George Jenesky in
>                "Signs"
>                 Oct 9 - Nov 15
>                 Los Seliz Playhouse
>                 Hollywoood, CA
>                 213 - 953 - 2823
> 
> This comes from last weeks SOW - no further info .
> 


     I could've sworn I posted this info about 3 weeks ago when I first
heard it...shoot, maybe that was when my hard drive crashed and it was 
eaten.  But hey, I already knew, true fanatic that I am.  I wish I lived
in CA.  You guys get the niftiest stuff.  Either there or NZ :-)
But thanks for posting it and for thinking of little ol' me :-)
(Anyone wanna chip in to send me to CA to see George for my honeymoon?  :-)  )

> NJ Tangy 
> --still looking for a new closing line
> 

     LA Guava, who thinks the Scotty Baldwin quote below is great and
hopes Lynn goes back to GH cause Lucy and Scott were fun, something
DOOL doesn't seem to be able to do anymore

> 
> -- 
>  Nancy J. Spera, Earth Model Division   # "If I didn't know for a fact that   #
>  Chevron Petroleum Technology Co.       #  Elvis was working in a donut shop  #
>  P.O. Box 446, La Habra, CA 90633-0446  #  in Beaver Falls, I'd swear he was  #
>  Tel: (310) 694-7761  njs@chevron.com   #  driving this truck." Scotty Baldwin#
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From: rpeck@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (robert william peck)
Subject: Re: OLTL: Raven Point
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:41:53 GMT

In article <IerVrdC00iUzM7aBBG@andrew.cmu.edu> Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I'm getting really sick of this whole Raven Point thing.  There are so
>many inconsistencies.
>
>For instance:  Max swam all the way from the shore to the island.  

This scene reminded me of the time when Jake swam from who-knows-where
to Badderly Island, where Megan, along with Bo, Sarah, Lucky and Gloria
[remember Gloria?], were pretending to be mob affiliates; and of course,
Tina was doing interior decorating.  In a memorable scene, Jake rose
like Adonis out of the water and captured the heart of Charlotte Hesser.
Later, at Johnny Dee's prompting, Bo aimed well and shot a bullet deflecting 
off of his (Jake's) lucky pendant, and he fell into the water (supposedly
dead).  He swam out to sea to find a boat so that he could radio the
Llanview Police for help.  Having met this goal, Jake jumped back into
the water and swam back to Badderly so that he could protect his Megan.

Granted, Max was swimming in a hurricane.  Isn't it amazing what aquatic
feats the residents of Llanview are capable of performing in a time of
need? 

--Bob 
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From: krissie@locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Y&R
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 18:53:16 GMT

In article <199210062008.AA03796@tuna.wang.com> YVONNE.ZEMOTEL@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Yvonne Zemotel") writes:
>did any besides my Mother notice Drucilla on Monday at the hospital?

yes, i noticed the inconsistencies.  quite similar to the beatles in a hard
day's night.

>When she was talking to Mame her hair was done up in a Medusa-like do
>and she had a red jacket and black turtle neck sweater.  When she went
>to visit the baby with Neal (how come they can be in the nursery like
>that without a nurse...where's Sheila when you need her) her hair was down

this whole hospital fiasco is a joke.  no REAL hospital would allow people
in and out during the birth of a baby, if you noticed, nathan had scrubs on
and then her parents just walk in off the street while she is huffing and 
puffing.

i realize this is "only a soap" but they should do something about their
inconsistencies and inaccuracies, we are not stupid mindless people here,
just addicted to our soap.

they are insulting our intelligence.  ahhhhhhhhhhh, that feels better.
-- 
so what if i am a vegan?  so what if i try to live a cruelty free lifestyle?
i'll tell you what, i sleep better at night knowing that nothing suffers for
anything i eat or wear and i try to use products that have not involved 
animal testing.  
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Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 10:59:09 -0400 
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL: (was My HS Reunion Picnic)

 
[Vix not Lix]
 
Roserooni responds to me who was responding to Spud:
 
> > Nick, Steve, and Kayla will not return.
> > Nick, Steve, and Kayla will not return.
>  
> Hey, hey, hey.  What about Danielle, Diana or Eve??  Of course, do we really
> want any of these folks back considering what Uncle Kenny is likely to
> do to them??
> 
>      Vixen!  You malicious thing!  You know darn well that's my
> line!  *I* always say that, not you!!  *fume*  Humph.  Some big sis you are, 
> stealing my line, trying to cut down on my number of posts so I'll never
> be nominated over you as Postamatic Supreme.  What a backstabbing vixen you a
re.
> Humph.  Sisters!  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
 
Oh cool your jets!  You little shrub!  And I don't have to be nominated as
Postamatic Supreme.  The Lemon Scented Postamatic -- Supremely NOT! has not
been fulfilling (sp -- that looks funny) her duties lately allowing me to
quietly but definitively steal her title away.  You may call me "Her Highness"
now.
 
My worst nightmare is that they would bring Genie (no comments TimTom) back
and ruin her.  I doubt that she would come back since she was one of the
first ones to be treated badly by TPTB.  Hey!  If they could do it to
Genie Francis, they can do it to anyone.
 
Vix
From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AW: New Survey
Keywords: Increase AW posts
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:47:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

>
I'll answer my own survey.

>1. Is Kevin a mass murderer or is he being framed?
>

I think Ken is the killer. The only other suspect I have is Sally. But, too
many people are dead. Sally would have no reason to kill the two hookers.
Kevin is hiding too many things. I like Kevin and I don't want him to leave
the show. He is not bad with Lorna and I think he interacts well with Jake.

>
>2. Should Kelsey bring charges against Jamie or should she protect the man
>   she loves?

Kelsey should let Jamie have it, but I also think that someone should zap
it to Kelsey. Both characters annoy me and matching the two of them up
makes it even worse.

>
>
>3. Should Dennis marry Marley?

I also don't care. GET RID OF BOTH OF THEM. Getting rid of Marley would
get rid of Vickey.


>
>
>4. Should Ryan go back to Vicky or have an affair with Jenna/Frankie?
>

NO!! Ryan should have nothing to do with Vicky if she is played by Jensen.
She has destroyed this once likeable character. I don't like Jenna with
him - maybe Frankie or someone new.

>
>5. Will Tommy die from cancer or will he go into remission?
>

Tommy is one of the best actors that AW has. Don't, please don't kill him
off.


>
>6. Should Iris go back to Spencer or have an affair with Tommy's father?

I think Iris should be with Tommy's father. I think they are great together.
Others are calling him ugly, but I can't see why.

>
>
>7. What's the future of Jake and Paulina? Will Jake be brought to trial
>   because of the Jamie/Kelsey tape?

I like Jake and I don't like Paulina. I never liked Judi Evans. I couldn't
stand her on DOOL. I think these two should be separated and Evans dumped
the way they dumped Cali.

>
>
>8. What should the writers do with Hannah, Matt and Donna?
>

Hannah serves no purpose on the show and I don't know why she is on. I
like Matt better than Dean. They should dump Dean and set Jenna back up
with Matt. Donna is great and they should give her a better story. I like
her going broke story.

>
>9. My favorite characters/acters on the show are:

Lorna, Jake, Felicia, Frankie, Ada, Ryan, Iris, Racheal, Kevin, Donna

>
>
>10. I can't stand the following characters/acters:

Marley/Vicky, Paulina, Grant, Dean, Jenna, Dennis, Hannah, Jamie, Kelsey,
Amanda, Sam, Byron

>
>
>11. My favorite story is:

There is no story right now that I really like. If I had to choose, I would 
choose the Lorna/Kevin murder story. I also like the Iris/Tommy story.

>
>
>12. The story I like the least is:
>
All the rest: Ryan/Vickey/Grant John/Lilly  Dennis/Marley  Jenna/Dean
Amanda/Sam/Singing (UGH!!)

John

>
>
>
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From: slaury@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Susan Laury)
Subject: Re: Andrew Jackson -- Dr. Blue Jeans
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:35:42 GMT

In article <BvtFzM.HD1@ecf.toronto.edu> mckenzi@ecf.toronto.edu (MCKENZIE ROBERT NEIL) writes:
>
>
>Hi everyone
>
>   I recently asked a question about Andrew Jackson (Dr. BJ on All My
>   Children) and received several responses. Thank you to all who
>   replied. I was asked by Julie Lewis to put some info about A.J. on
>   this newsgroup.
>
>   Andrew Jackson lives in my hometown, Stratford Ontario Canada. I know
>   him through his former and my present workplace, the Stratford
>   Shakespearean Festival. He is a Canadian actor who has done stage

>Rob McKenzie
>"Accent -- what accent?"
>mckenzi@skule.ecf.utoronto.ca

I was in Stratford years ago and loved it. I went to the festival with`
a group of people. The theater and food all were fabulous!

Sus.

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