HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lim@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: COINS: Cataloging program suggestions?
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:59:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <BzJ4q9.1Hu@news.iastate.edu> raeker@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov (Todd J. Raeker) writes:
>
>  1) Ability to read a file of recent market prices for coins and 
>     easily update the value of my coins on a periodic bases.  Some 
>     numismatics society must surely maintain an electronic data base that 
>     can be gotten from the net or a BBS.  Can someone tell me where and
>     how?

Believe it or not, I'm pretty sure the answer is no.  People ask this
question all the time on CompuServe.  The ANA is only now looking into
starting a BBS.  Trove, a company which has coin programs, sends out
prices on disk to its users.  That's all that I've heard of.

And I am sure that if someone starts typing in Red Book, Coin World,
Numismatic News, or CDN/Greysheet prices and tries to distribute it
electronically, they will get in copyright trouble very fast.  Unlike
stocks, there is no "New York Coin Exchange".  The publications have to
figure out prices by consulting a bunch of dealers across the country
and averaging them somehow.

If someone wants to start their own service, I'm all for it!
I think many dealers would use it, not to mention collectors.

>Any other features?

I'm not likely to use your program, since I'm a Mac owner, but here's
a suggestion anyway:

Eliminate as much data entry as possible.  Ideally, I'd want a program
that lists all U.S. coins of all dates and mintmarks (and some major
varieties) so I could just check off the ones I have.  I would never
use a program if I had to type it all in myself.  IMHO, it'd just be
too much work for too little gain.

+++
Lloyd Lim                    Internet: lim@cs.ucdavis.edu
Lim Unlimited                America Online: LimUnltd
330 W. Iris Ave.             AppleLink: LimUnltd
Stockton, CA  95210-3738     CompuServe: 72647,660
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: Soviet Propaganda posters 4 sale
From: lcornel@eis.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:39:30 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Adios, these historical posters are history: they are sold!
From: Chris.Moss@f161.n207.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Comic books
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 01 Jan 93  21:44:00

Hello "ALL" you comic book enthuasists, I am looking for any and "ALL" comic
book collections, yes I am a very admired comic book collector and is tough on 
"QUALITY", if you have a comic book collection for sale and it is in "Good
Condition", Please call me and or FAX me at (909) 356-8275.  or leave me a
message on this system.

                                       Thank You Chris Moss

Sysop of the Sky Gallery BBS (30) GIG online!

"What more can you ask for"??????

Node #1 (909) 428-7601
Node #2 (909) 428-7602
Node #3 (909) 428-7648
Node #4 (909) 356-8275

P.S. All International Students that Subscribe to the Sky Gallery BBS get
"More then you EVER CAN ask for", Call us, The rest is in the Pudding!...

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Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: siejko@rtc.atk.com (Kris Siejko)
Subject: CARDS: Kris's first auction
Organization: Alliant Techsystems, Inc., Mpls, MN
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:43:58 GMT



Thought I'd make my first auction short with only three lots:


			High Beckett           Min/High Bid

====++++++++++++++++
Lot 1  Greg Maddux        $10.00                 $6.00
====++++++++++++++++

	87D #36 RC	
	87F Update U68 XRC*
	89UD #241
	91 StadiumClub #126

====+++++++++++++++++
Lot 2  Ryne Sandberg      $4.25                  $2.75
====+++++++++++++++++

92D; 92D AS; 91D (2)x(Ex); 90D (2)x#BC-10(Ex-Mt);
90T (EX); 89T; 89T (ExMt); 
91L ;
90S (2) (Ex-Mt); 91S (2)xMANYR(Ex); 91S (ExMt); 91S (4)xAS 
91F; 90F (ExMt); 89F (ExMt); 

22 cards total

====+++++++++++++++++
Lot 3  Kirby Puckett      $8.00                  $5.50
====+++++++++++++++++

91FU #195
92FU #97
92FU Award Winner #23 (NrMT)                    
     (very slight "ding" in upper left corner with a dot of white)




- Minimum bid increase is .50

- Postage is included.

- All cards at least NrMt unless otherwise noted
- High Beckett prices reflect grade of cards. 

- Using the going once, going twice method, with a deadline set for Friday
  Jan. 15 at 4pm Cst, at which time any active lots go to the highest bidder.

- Satisfaction Guaranteed or your money will be refunded.


- email bids to siejko@rtc.atk.com

_____________________________________________________________________________

Kris Siejko		   "Well, you can't hold back 
Alliant Techsystems Inc.     nature-rrruugh-huaagh-huughck-(phlegm)-aagrrgh"
Research Guy                 -announcer Harry Caray, commenting on Dwight Smith 
				      being in the bathroom when 
				      called on to pinch hit
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Card:92-93 UD 1a auction update(Shaq mail in)
From: hsinhsin@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:52:10 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

Hi!
	I have 4 of 92 UD Trade Upper Deck (No# 1a) cards for auction
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 4 of 92-93 UD Basketball card (No# 1a) 

	min bid:$40
	high bid:$45 (RRC) Going Twice  

 P.S. the UD will trade you this card for a NBA draft card of the overall #1 pick in the the 92 NBA draft.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

-I will use going once, going twice, sold
-Saturday and Sunday count as one day
-minimum increase is $0.50
-send all bid to "HsinHisn@oread.cc.ukans.edu"
-all cards are mint condition
-thank you and good luck

Sunny-----
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: anton@cbnewse.cb.att.com (anton.j.panagos)
Subject: Personal message to Mario Santos
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:45:58 GMT

This is a personal message to MARIO J. SANTOS, since I can't reach him
    ------------------------------------------
by ordinary e-mail. SORRY ABOUT THE WASTE OF BANDWIDTH PEOPLE....

Mario, sorry about the last message I may or may have not sent you.
I just received your check for $20 for the R. Clemens RC Topps 85 card.
Since you sent to my work address it tooks 14 day s to get to me!!
(Just got it yesterday 12/22/92). I will not cash the check or send the
card until I hear from you.  please respond so we can finally make the
deal and you can get the card you have been waiting for so long.

again sorry to everyone else.

Anton J. Panagos
cbnewse!anton
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, Il.

"...I'm the king of wishful thinking"
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: "ken okamoto" <ken.okamoto@canrem.com>
Subject: CARDS: Topps Customer Service?
Reply-To: "ken okamoto" <ken.okamoto@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:29:49 EST


In article <1992Dec20.235234.1262944@sue.cc.uregina.ca> V Bhargava
writes:

>I just purchased a box of Topps Hockey (92/93).  While opening it up,
>I got a Bure and Lindros.  Unfortunately, both these cards are damaged.

>How good is Topps' customer service,

I bought a box of 92-93 Hockey and all the gold cards were damaged.
I shipped the cards back to Topps in two separate packages and just
recently received the replacement cards. For my troubles they also
threw in some extra cards: 3 91 BB cello packs in one case and
a 90 Bowman BB rack pack in the other. Well at least the thought was
nice 8). It took about a month from the time I sent in my cards until
the replacements arrived.

>where and in what manner do I send the cards to them to get replaced?

Send the damaged cards to:

The Topps Company Inc.
401 York Avenue
Duryea, PA 18642
Attn: Consumer Relations

If you want one for one replacement of damaged cards send no more
than 25 cards in a package, and also include a list of the cards you
want replaced. If you send more than 25 cards in a package the cards
will not be replaced on a one for one basis but packs will be sent
instead.

Ken

 * DeLuxe2 1.25 #3205 * Taglines are irrevelant!  Loquacious of Boring
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: lim@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: COINS: Telemarketers
Date: 23 Dec 92 03:25:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <1h544sINNavt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin) writes:
>
>The one thing I can't understand is why he wants to sell these rare coins,
>if they are so much better an investment or an asset than any stocks
>or bonds or cash money... If you believe what he says, it means that
>he loses vast amounts of future wealth every time he sells one of them... :-)

I think he's more interested in being rich now, rather than the future.
Dealers probably make around 50% on sales, certainly no less than 30%.
I'm not necessarily saying this is unfair.  They do have to make a living.

+++
Lloyd Lim                    Internet: lim@cs.ucdavis.edu
Lim Unlimited                America Online: LimUnltd
330 W. Iris Ave.             AppleLink: LimUnltd
Stockton, CA  95210-3738     CompuServe: 72647,660
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: CCSM <CCSM@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Stamps:  Elvis...
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:30:34 GMT

Hi,

Can anyone give me info on the Elvis stamps that the US postal
services are to issue -- when are they expected, how many are
there, etc.

Thanks

Sue
========================================================================
  Suzanne Morzajew                               CCSM@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
  McGill University
  Computing Centre                                 Tel: (514) 398-3678
  Montreal Quebec Canada                           Fax: (514) 398-6876
========================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: rfeigels@us.oracle.com (Roger Feigelson)
Subject: Re: calculus question for cards
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:40:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: usgcjsx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Craig_J_Stadler)
Subject: Toys/Corvair Memorabilia
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:10:46 GMT


I am looking for any of the toys listing in my .sig (below)
and also Corvair Memorabilia (ads, videos..)

Any Ideas..??


-- 
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                    We are controlling transmission
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Atari 2600,5200,7800   Vectrex    ColecoVision   Intellivsion    Channel F
Emerson Fairchild      Odyssey    Odyssey 2  

                     I BUY USED/NEW CARTS/SYSTEMS!!! 
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                    ATTENTION!!  WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE :

Stretch ARMSTRONG  Stretch MONSTER        STP Racers            CreepyCrawlers
Sit-N-Spin         Inch Worm              6 Million Dollar Man  Lincoln Logs
Silly Putty        Rock Em Sock Em Robots Snow Bird Ice Machine Tinker Toys
Digger The Dog     Mouse Trap             Big Wheel             Green Machine
Weeble Wobbles
                 usgcjsx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (404) 651-4542
                      DAMN That Was a LONG .signature!!
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Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: msr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Rosenberg)
Subject: CARDS:  Some sports commons wanted
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 03:40:40 GMT

I'm looking for the following cards:

Hockey:
ProSet 1990-91
#32

Football:
Score 1990-91
#302, 317

#302 is Junior Seau rookie (I believe)
#317 is a special 'Hot Guns' Warren Moon

They're not much, but they're all I need to complete the sets.

If you can help me, thanks...

--Mike
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
*  Mike Rosenberg                   |   msr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu              *
*                                   |   jth@isp.nwu.edu                      *
*  "Weasel is not a nickname --     |   weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu            * 
*   it's a state of mind."          |   weasel@nwu.edu                       *
*                                   |                                        *
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
"Ordinariy he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid"
	Heinrich Heine
From: oz@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Kent Ostby)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:25:39 GMT
Subject: Re: CARD: Oz's auction #1 : Mixed sports
Organization: HP Response Center Lab
Newsgroups: rec.collecting

Here are the final results of the bidding from the auction.

******************************************************************************
SET ABBREVIATIONS:

92CDP = 92 Classic Draft Picks (mixed sports)
91CDP = 91 Classic Draft Picks (mixed sports)
92LEAF = 92 Leaf Baseball
92CFDP= 91 Classic Football Draft Picks
92CBBDP= 91 Classic Basketball Draft Picks
91UDFB = 91 Upper Deck Football
90UDB = 90 Upper Deck Baseball
91IML = 91 Impel/AAA Minor League Baseball
*******************************************************************************
CARD-2 					 Min/Current: $2.50 bid by j.cadiz
92CDP #LP12 Harold Minor                                 GOING ONCE
(NOTE: THIS CARD HAS SCRATCHS ON THE BASE OF THE GOLD STRIPE)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-3					 Min/Current: $4 bid by j. cadiz
92CDP #LP12 Harold Minor (MINT)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-4					 Min/Current: $12 bid by byau
92CDP Autographed Lee Mayberry (372/2575)                 GOING ONCE
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-5					 Min/Current: $2 bid by j. cadiz
92CDP #LP13 Todd Day
(NOTE: THIS CARD HAS SCRATCHS ON THE BASE OF THE GOLD STRIPE)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-6					 Min/Current: $4 bid by j. cadiz
92CDP #LP13 Todd Day (MINT)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-7					 Min/Current: $7 bid by j. cadiz
92CDP #LP11 Christian Laettner
(NOTE: THIS CARD HAS SCRATCHS ON THE BASE OF THE GOLD STRIPE)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-8					 Min/Current: $4.25 bid by wchiang
92CBBDP #LP6 Tom Gugliotta                                  GOING ONCE
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-9					 Min/Current: $4    bid by jboone
92CFDP #Basketball Promo #4 Walt Williams                   GONE!!!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-16					 Min/Current: $4 bid by j. cadiz
92CDP #LP1 Desmond Howard
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARD-17					 Min/Current: $4 bid by j.cadiz
92CDP #LP2 David Klingler
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: jon@radel.com (Jon Radel)
Subject: Re: Flag Collectors Out There???
Reply-To: jon@radel.com
Organization: Stanford Telecom, SED, Reston
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 00:36:58 GMT

In article <1450200001@igc.apc.org> Marc Minardi <mminardi@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>Does anyone out there collect flags??   I collect the real flying kind, usually
>3' X 5';  I have all countries and many provinces, states, cities and other sub-
>divisions.  Let's talk.
>

Oh, there are some of us out here all right.  Of course, the number of flag
collectors is so much smaller than the number of, say card collectors,
especially if you discount the militaria collectors with a passing interest
in flags, that the number of us on the net is not all that great.

Incidently, if there are any flag collectors out there who haven't heard
of such organizations as the North American Vexillological Assoc. (NAVA)
and other such organizations around the world, I can e-mail you membership
information.  (I.e., you aren't alone in the world....  :-)

--Jon Radel
jon@radel.com
jon%radel.com@uu.psi.com
From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: COINS: Telemarketers
Date: 24 Dec 1992 13:41:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lim@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim) says:
>In article <1h544sINNavt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin) writes:
>>The one thing I can't understand is why he wants to sell these rare coins,
>>if they are so much better an investment or an asset than any stocks
>>or bonds or cash money... If you believe what he says, it means that
>>he loses vast amounts of future wealth every time he sells one of them... :-)
>I think he's more interested in being rich now, rather than the future.
>Dealers probably make around 50% on sales, certainly no less than 30%.
>I'm not necessarily saying this is unfair.  They do have to make a living.

But if the coins are going up 100% in a month, as he claims, why is he trying to
sell them now, instead of waiting for them to plateau, or even begin dropping
(and, as a dealer, he'd be able to detect the beginnings of a drop before 
the average investor/customer)? Every argument he uses to convince people
to buy these things can be turned around against him to ask why he would
want to let them go...

-- 
Will Martin
wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil OR wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: grant@cs.dal.ca (Jeffrey Grant)
Subject: CARDS: AUCTION 92 Upper Deck Pro Bowl Set
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:19:20 GMT

I have a complete Upper Deck Pro Bowl Set PB1-16 (mint) up for auction.
January's Beckett lists the set at $150.  The minimum bid will be $110.
I will be using the usual GOING ONCE-GOING TWICE-SOLD format and
the minimum increase in a bid will be $1.

The auction will be updated every day, with Saturday and Sunday counting
as one day.

All Bids in US dollars.

Shipping will be paid by myself.

LOT                                   MIN    BID   INITIALS
92 Upper Deck Pro Bowl               $110
Mint Set PB1-16

All bids can be sent to:

Jeff Grant
grant@cs.dal.ca
From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Re: Does it BUG you?  If so, why so?
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:44:46 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

There has been an interesting dichotomy of opinions, and just as interestingly,
where they are expressed.  I have gotten some responses in open posts,
but a lot more in email (about thirty responses).

Most people have said "nah, it doesn't bug me" (2:1).   But about 1/3 (11 
people) of the people showed a real antipathy.  Some of the reasons:

>   [stuff deleted]                        But the fact is that cards
> have no real value.  Not as nostalgia, not as precious metals, not
> anything.  The modern cards are intrisically valueless.

> 	Card dealers are like drug dealers.  They will do anything to convince
> kids that the worthless drek they are buying is going to make them rich
> (get them high).  And for a while they might look rich on paper, until they
> try to sell them. Then they ind out just how worthless these things really 
> are.  This is going to sour kids on the whole feild of collecting, and thats
> a shame.

> It's all artificial.  Cards printed by the millions for the purpose of
> stealing kids lunch money.  Its a shame that so many kids are buying 
> into the scam.  Adults will deserve what they don't get.

> What bugs me is the people who think they are going to get rich, and 
> who will be heartbroken when they find all they have is crap.

> It doesn't bug me.  I think its funny to watch so many stupid people throwing
> away their money on a scheme PT Barnum would have been proud of.

> I guess I am kinda bugged, because it seems like a lot of stuff over
> nothing. I guess I get bugged when I see a lot of people acting like
> idiots, and throwing their money away.
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Card:sale!!!!!
From: yujen@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:35:25 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

HI all!
	I have some set would like to sale.

	92-93 Classic Basketball set ........... $12.00
	
	92-93 Fleer Ultra Basetball set ........ $20.00

	92 Classic 4-Sport set ................. $25.00

All price are include postage. Please e-mail me at 
	"YUJEN@oread.cc.ukans.edu"
if interesting.

Thanks.

Yu

Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: haught@tigger.jvnc.net (Darrell Haught)
Subject: Cards:90 Leaf Thomas Update
Originator: haught@tigger.jvnc.net
Organization: JvNCnet, Princeton University, NJ
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:25:13 GMT

1990 Leaf Frank Thomas RC MNT. Min. Bid $40.00
                               Hi Bid: $45.00(David A.)Going Once....

Darrell
haught@tigger.jvnc.net


Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: siejko@rtc.atk.com (Kris Siejko)
Subject: 92 Stadium Club (Baseball) Trades wanted
Organization: Alliant Techsystems, Inc., Mpls, MN
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:04:58 GMT


I'd like to finish this set before the '93 trading season begins:

'92 Stadium Club wantlist (High Beckett listed)

370 Canseco 		1.50
372			 .15
431 			 .15
531 Olerud		 .50
600 Sandberg MC		1.25

703 			 .15
750 R. Henderson 	 .75
770 Ryan		3.00
878 Hansen RC 		 .50


I have hundreds of stadium club commons from both 91 and 92 available
(mostly 92 Series III), and the following stars from `92:
 
Bagwell MC				
Bonds				 
Bonds MC				
Gwynn				
R. Clayton		
Knoblauch MC	
Fleming	
sheffield			
R Sanders		
Rhodes		


I've got it down to 9 cards from about 300 - 
all done via this newsgroup.  This will be my last try before I
go out and buy the rest.  Thanks again to all of those that have
helped in the past!

-Kris
siejko@rtc.atk.com
From: douglas@discos.enet.dec.com (Paul Douglas)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting
Subject: Beer Can Collecting Clubs?
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: douglas@discos.enet.dec.com (Paul Douglas)
Organization: Digital Equiptment Corp.



Does anyone know if there are organizations for promoting 
beer can collecting.  

I recall that there was "The Beer Can Collectors of America" 
at one time.

Does anyone have an address of this organization and/or any
others?

Postings or mail would be great.

Thanks
  Paul

Postings or mail would be great


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Paul C. Douglas
Digital Equiptment Corp. 
Boxborough Ma
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