HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 11:15:34 EDT
From: <MDSQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cascade
Subject: Re: toast
 <1992Aug7.154457.23280@data-io.com> <gc81H?sq?8@atlantis.psu.edu>
 <169rajINN28e@hal.com>

>
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marmalade.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marmoreal.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mont Martre.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monroe Doctrine.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maroney Award.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mutlu Prize.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maltese Falcon.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Malpighian corpuscle.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Manon of the Spring.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Man of War.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mather, Cotton.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>>Mann Act.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>>Menarche.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>>Manny, Moe, and Jack
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>>M3 Money Supply.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>>>Morgan le Fay
>>>|>>>>>>>>>>Megalomania.
>>>|>>)>>>>>>Mea culpa.
>>>|>>)>>>>>Mezzanine Loge.
>>>|>>)>>>>Mezzo-soprano.
>>>|>>)>>>Monsieur Beaucaire.
>>>|>>)>>Moses and Monotheism.
>>>|>>)>Mead in Valhalla.
>>>|>>)Morning Post
>>>|>>Mephisto's Waltz.
>>>|>Machiafuckingvelli
>>>Mozambique
>>Multiple regression.
>Mojo Tooth
Mojo Radio
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 08:36:17 EDT
From: <MDSQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cascade
Subject: Re: CASCADE (was: you know what really gets my goat)
 <1992Aug12.185855.23319@pony.Ingres.COM>
 <1992Aug13.022556.7586@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <l8k4tlINNd92@alcor.usc.edu>

>>>>In some of the newsgroups the excessive quotes are nested so deep it would
>>>>take an archaeologist 5 years of stripping away at the layers to get to the
>>>>original message.
>>>Oh, so you don't like to see CASCADES??????
>>Oh, so you don't like to march in PARADES?????????
>
>Oh, so you don't like to play CHARADES??????????
What? Sure you won't hike with my BLUE SHADE?????????
Newsgroups: alt.cascade
From: swalvick@nynexst.com (Steve Walvick)
Subject: Re: CASCADE (was: you know what really gets my goat)
Keywords: No, not the dishwasher soap!
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 11:35:10 GMT

In article <l8k4tlINNd92@alcor.usc.edu> rone@alcor.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.022556.7586@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
>)In article <1992Aug12.185855.23319@pony.Ingres.COM> reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:
>>>In article <0XPcPB1w165w@aqua.ocunix.on.ca> cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (D. Cowan (Postmaster)) writes:
>>>>In some of the newsgroups the excessive quotes are nested so deep it would 
>>>>take an archaeologist 5 years of stripping away at the layers to get to the
>>>>original message.  
>>>Oh, so you don't like to see CASCADES??????
>>Oh, so you don't like to march in PARADES?????????
>
>Oh, so you don't like to play CHARADES??????????
>
Oh, so you don't like to play trump in SPADES?????????


Newsgroups: alt.cascade
From: clennox@vaxeline.ftp.com (Systems Anarchist)
Subject: Re: CASCADE (was: you know what really gets my goat)
Keywords: No, not the dishwasher soap!
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:51:00 GMT

In article <l8k4tlINNd92@alcor.usc.edu> rone@alcor.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.022556.7586@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
>)In article <1992Aug12.185855.23319@pony.Ingres.COM> reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:
>>>In article <0XPcPB1w165w@aqua.ocunix.on.ca> cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (D. Cowan (Postmaster)) writes:
>>>>In some of the newsgroups the excessive quotes are nested so deep it would 
>>>>take an archaeologist 5 years of stripping away at the layers to get to the
>>>>original message.  
>>>Oh, so you don't like to see CASCADES??????
>>Oh, so you don't like to march in PARADES?????????
>Oh, so you don't like to play CHARADES??????????
Oh, so you don't like to read these TIRADES????????
-- 
Flame me at: clennox@ftp.com
Craig Lennox                                          phone: (617) 224-6222
FTP Software, Wakefield MA                            pager: (617) 597-0683
From: cliff@hal.com (Cliff Neighbors)
Newsgroups: alt.cascade
Subject: Re: toast
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:08:50 GMT
Organization: The End Of The World As We Knew It, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gax.hal.com

>>>>>Currants.
>>>>Currency.
>>>Crabalocker Fishwife.
>>Coxswain.
>Cousin, Cousine.
Canard, canine.
From: rone@alcor.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.cascade
Subject: Re: toast
Date: 12 Aug 1992 16:58:01 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alcor.usc.edu

)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marmalade.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marmoreal.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mont Martre.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monroe Doctrine.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maroney Award.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mutlu Prize.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maltese Falcon.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Malpighian corpuscle.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Manon of the Spring.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Man of War.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mather, Cotton.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mann Act.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Menarche.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Manny, Moe, and Jack
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>M3 Money Supply.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Morgan le Fay
)>>>>>>>>>>>>>Megalomania.
)>>>>>>>>>>>>Mea culpa.
)>>>>>>>>>>>Mezzanine Loge.
)>>>>>>>>>>Mezzo-soprano.
)>>>>>>>>>Monsieur Beaucaire.
)>>>>>>>>Moses and Monotheism.
)>>>>>>>Mead in Valhalla.
)>>>>>>Morning Post
)>>>>>Mephisto's Waltz.
)>>>>Machiafuckingvelli
)>>>Mozambique
)>>Multiple regression.
)>Mojo Tooth
)Mojo Radio
Mo' Money

5150
it had to be said
From: rone@alcor.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.cascade
Subject: Re: toast
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:20:28 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alcor.usc.edu

rpwrites: 
>>>>>>Currants.
>>>>>Currency.
>>>>Crabalocker Fishwife.
>>>Coxswain.
>>Cousin, Cousine.
>Circadian Rythym
Circuit City


5150
it's time to dislodge my 'F' key from my keyboard
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 11:16:36 EDT
From: <MDSQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cascade
Subject: Re: Re : Origins of this group
 <=13m2k=.rdc@netcom.com> <l8hhriINN3tb@girtab.usc.edu>

In article <l8hhriINN3tb@girtab.usc.edu>, rone@girtab.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
says:
>
>In article <=13m2k=.rdc@netcom.com> rdc@netcom.com (Roger David Carasso)
writes:
>mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] It Came From The Sump") writes:
)>pavel@vizbiz.com writes:
)>>Where did this group originate?
)>ere.
>Hell.
Exactly.
Exactly what part of hell, exactly? You see, I'm from there, and I was
wondering if it was in my neighboorhood. I might have even grown up with
it! There was this guy on my block... No, that was Alt.Waterfall. Anyway,
if someone could clear that up, when I visit my folks, I'll see if I can
find anything out.
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Callin' all Zen Surf Masters
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:16:50 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In article <1992Aug17.174807.5322@brtph560.bnr.ca> kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:
>About a month ago I rented "Point Break" and ever since I can't get surfing
>out of my head.  When I stumbled on this group I lurked for a while and
>decided to ask a couple of questions:
>
>Is surfing truly different from other sports?  Is there Something More to it
>than just paddlin' out into the surf and ridin' back in?

Yeah it's totally differnt.  The quality of your surf depends on
the wave conditions and the crowds and the spot itself.  Surfing
has a lot more dynamic factors than most sports.  

Also, surfing is a "pleasure" sport.  It's not like lots of other sports
where winning is the big thing.  For a lot of surfers, having a good time
is the main goal.  At least for me, its gives me a great feeling to have
a good surf.

Nonetheless, there are lots of "downers" as well: long flat spells, inclement
weather,  pollution, fights over waves, etc. that can make surfing an 
extremely depressing experience.

>
>Is it possible to dump your sappy eastern US, software designer job, go out
>to surf mecca and live like a native for the rest of you life?

Where's surf Mecca?  California? Hawaii?  Both places are crowded
and expsensive.  Unless you like being crammed into a dump with
lots of smelly, dirty, obnoxious, drug-crazed, surf bums you've
got to earn good money to afford a decent lifestyle near good surf.

If you want to live cheap and surf, head for Latin America.  However,
there you have to deal with disease, bandidos, poverty, corrupt police,
and substandard medical care.

>
>Bottom line.  How does surfing affect the inner man?  Or does it at all?
>
>KimmyD

It can make you more of an asshole, or it can mellow you out.  In the
long run it really depends on you.  Crowds are usually a big factor. 
In my experience, surfers in urban areas tend to be more hostile,
agressive, territorial, and competitive;  while surfers in rural areas tend
to be pretty mellow and laid back.  It keeps you in tune with nature and
the elements which is probably a good thing in the modern world.  Most
people won't understand why you want to bail on everything to surf when
there's waves.  If you want good waves, it has to be the main focus of your
life.

P.S.  I wouldn't reccomend it to anybody in the USA.  It's too crowded and too
polluted.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: danny@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (Danny Z Clark)
Organization: NSWSES Code 4g13 - Opinions: Are Mine Alone
Subject: Re: alt.waves
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:53:25 -0700
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Sure, you can try to get us (bodyborders) off of alt.surfing, but it will
never work! There are too many of us. If you try to move us we will all
drop in on you at once!!!

                                Danny

-- 
                    Danny Clark, PHD NSWC, Port Hueneme CA
                         danny@suned1.nswses.navy.mil
       The Navy and I share some views, but the ones above are all mine.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: rjfisher@marmot@oracle.uk.com (Robin Fisher)
Subject: Cornwall Surf reports 
Organization: Oracle UK
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:14:32 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


Hi,
	I'm looking for some method of finding out what the surf's like in 
Cornwall. I'll be travelling down from London and would prefer to know what to 
expect before making a wasted trip. (It's happened before!)
	Dows anyone know of any "surfline" number or local information bureau 
that can be contacted?

Thanks for any help,



Robin.
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: irc times.
Date: 17 Aug 92 00:18:48 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer) writes:


>So, to correlate some times between the U.S. and Australia:
>0100 GMT = 6am U.S.(pacific) = Noon Aus. (western)
>0900 GMT = Noon U.S.(pacific) = 6pm Aus. (western)
>0900 GMT = 6pm U.S.(pacific) = Midnight Aus. (western)
>0900 GMT = Midnight U.S.(pacific) = 6am Aus. (western)

>How does the Noon US/6pm Aus. time sound?

Not to good for today (Monday) although that's your Sunday now.
It would be 2 am now.Then again that's Monday morning for you then.

So here's a list of the times I can get to irc during this week.

They are in Austrlian East Coast times...
For 16/8/92+6days.
Monday... 8:30 am- 11:30pm, 12:30-1:30pm,8:30pm to 10:00pm
Tuesday... 12:30 pm-5:30pm(maybe 6:30pm)
Wednesday...all day except 10:30am-11:30am.
Thursday...I think I'm in Sydney all day,this week.
If not all day but not 3:30pm-4:30pm.
Friday...all day except 8:30-10:30 am.

Saturday and Sunday are both available as well if need be.

Try and allow at least half an hour talk time.

So Robert,follow-up to this post and leave a time for each day that's
suitable and I'll follow-up again to confirm them.

Bye,
Nigel.
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Where is Hossegor?
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:19:22 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Aug15.033441.15898@cs.uow.edu.au> u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson) writes:

>Tell us more about the big-wave exploits you observed of Kong.
>I want to know.
>N.

Well, I was on one of the ususal Brit surfer end of summer van trips to
France with a bunch of my buddies and we were hanging out camping out
of my Combi in the lane next to Hossegor-Seignosse car park (right 
side, behind the dunes for people who've been there).

The previous day it had been flat in the morning, then the swell starte
-d comming up at about 2 pm. By evening it was double overhead an I went
in and had the session I described earlier.

The next morning you could hear these huge detonations as just huge
waves pounded the beach. I woke before dawn to go and check the surf. 
No wind, you could barely see. Very misty. Any way I get up and manage
to get out of the van past the sleeping crew and head on down the 
path. Elko runs past avec un 7'0 (at least) and paddles out. Gets
mundo pounded getting out, too. No one else out. For an hour I sat there
and watched him rip the place apart (barrels, huge sweaping turns, etc)
ALONE. There were a lot of pros in town due to the hossegor contest but
on elko paddles out in the mist, alone, that morning.

A few people paddled out later, but he was there a alone for a good long
time. Thats it really. Not a very good story I'm afraid.

Mike
From: chrispy@bcsaic.boeing.com (Chris Payne)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Callin' all Zen Surf Masters
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:22:35 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

In article <1992Aug17.174807.5322@brtph560.bnr.ca> kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:
>
>Is surfing truly different from other sports?  Is there Something More to it
>than just paddlin' out into the surf and ridin' back in?
>
It is for *me*. For others I've known, it was just something to do, a
hobby, a pasttime, a way to meet girls.  The major difference seems to
be a desire to surf vs a desire to be a surfer.  Give it a try, but
beware, if you get saltwater in your veins it may change your life!

>Is it possible to dump your sappy eastern US, software designer job, go out
>to surf mecca and live like a native for the rest of you life?
>
*Anything* is possible, read Illusions by Richard Bach.  You may find,
however that it is more desireable to keep the job and incorporate
surfing into your life.  As a software designer you have the potential
to get a job almost anywhere (I spent 12 years writing code on Oahu, and
surfing Ala Moana and Threes on my lunch hour).  

>Bottom line.  How does surfing affect the inner man?  Or does it at all?
>
It depends on how the inner man allows himself to be affected. (No
sexual bias intended - I feel this applies to anyone).

                          
              > >         Aloha,
         >      > >         Chris P. chrispy@bcsaic.boeing.com
     >        >   >>        Surfs-with-Turtles 
>             >    >      
               >          "As I get up I feel a chill     
                  >        What this place needs is getting used to still.
                       >   Hard to believe this ocean is far too wide for me"
From: mtemple@calstatela.edu (Mark Temple)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Dropping in
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:52:43 GMT
Reply-To: mtemple@calstatela.edu
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles


                      Danny
> 
> Actually, stand-up surfers are as much at fault in the dropping in department
> as bodyboarders.  I seem to get dropped in on by stand-up surfers fairly
> regularly.  This seems to be due to the surfers not believing I will make
> the wave, so they take it and I'm left with the garden hose in the face, if
> you fellow bbder's know what I mean.

With all respect, you must be doing something wrong.

 when anybody dorps in on me i whistle and yell. if i have to pull out
 i make sure to send the offender a few words of surf ettiquite.
 that usually takes care of it.  

  Spongers have to stand up for their rights. :)
  
 of coures this means that you have to follow the rules and not 
  shoulder hop or drop in on someone else's ride.

NO ONE owns a wave, the ocean just lets us go along for the ride

  LA sponger
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Worst Wipeouts
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:38:31 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
>churning up the bottom.  It was going to be my last ride, I was a
>little tired and obviously not focusing like I should have.  I took
 ^^^^^^ ^^^^^
Most of my best wipeouts have this in common.  You get tired and think:
Hmmm...if I catch it a little late, I won't need to paddle as hard.
My board has a 3 inch diameter 1/8" deep dent in the bottom from my
skull getting whacked after going over the falls on a too-late-too-tired-to
paddle takeoff.  As I came up from the washing machine, some guy was
paddling out and saw the whole thing, he was just shakin' his head.
It took a few seconds to get back to the planet as the cobwebs cleared
out of my stone-like cranium. I paddled in and rested for about 20 min
before reentering the water.

   O
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833       Sometimes the truth is hidden,
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil         Like a shadow in the darkness.
  /     David Taylor Model Basin                  -Master Po
   \___________________________
			     \\
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa)
Subject: Re: ear plugs, was Re: LA Surfers
Organization: Hewlett Packard - N.A.D.O. Santa Clara, CA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.220518.22821@nas.nasa.gov> leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
| In article <1992Aug15.230007.122@massey.ac.nz| P.B.Halverson@massey.ac.nz (P.B. Halverson) writes:

| |Nose and ear plugs look kookish, but can prevent considerable 
| |discomfort.
 
| Do people really surf with earplugs and is this safe?  I'm sure in small
| conditions it's fine but I would think it'd be rather dangerous to be wearing
| earplugs in any situation where you could be held under for some time. I mean,
| if you're wearing earplugs underwater can you still tell which way is up?

A model of Doc's Pro Plugs cometh vent holes for scuba diving. I have some
of these. While I haven't been held under at depth or for any amount of time
with them in, I found them to server their purpose. In this case, keeping
COLD water out of the ear. This to prevent a re-occurance of Surfers Ear I
recently had repaired...



 
-- 
       daniel hinojosa. email -=> hinojosa@nado.hp.com | Santa Clara, CA
   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Jesus Saves!... But Gretzky gets the rebound. He Shoots. He SCOOORES!!!
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Cornwall Surf reports
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:52:26 GMT
Organization: University of Bath, England

In article <1992Aug20.131432.3437@oracle.us.oracle.com> rjfisher@marmot@oracle.uk.com (Robin Fisher) writes:
>
>Hi,
>	I'm looking for some method of finding out what the surf's like in 
>Cornwall. I'll be travelling down from London and would prefer to know what to 
>expect before making a wasted trip. (It's happened before!)
>	Dows anyone know of any "surfline" number or local information bureau 
>that can be contacted?
>

There's SURFCALL whose number is 0839-505-695.  The do reports
for the entire southwest of Devon and Cornwall.  They don't give
a forcast though.  Also, in my experience, they overestimate
the size and power of the waves.  They definitely give
wave faces and then some.  2-3 ft from them is knee to waist
high.  8ft is slightly overhead.  They said that Croyde was
8ft and really dangerous (give me a break).  Also they said
that Gwevnor (sp?) was 10 ft and breaking just like Sunset Beach
in Hawaii.  That was really good for a laugh.  The continental shelf
here is really shallow and goes out for a long way.  There's just
no way for the waves to get the same power as the north shore of Oahu.

Nonetheless, it's something to go by, and it gives you some idea what
to expect. 


Chris
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surfing a Virgin with Jim/Jum...
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:44:19 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Yesterday arvo I went and surfed the infamous virgins with Jim.
It was all that he's said about it plus more, as it was in real
life for me, and not just a distant surf report from jim jum.
 
Jim got some(5) amazing barrells.... up to about 40metres (?) long and the 
barsted still comes out.He paid his dues though with some bloody 
good wipe-outs.

I was just content to watch him and blow out at the barrells
that went by.
As he's said before it's 20 minutes paddle off shore and as such
the consequences of your actions I feel must be 
given more consideration.
I made up my mind whilst out there that if I was going to surf
this place again I had to buy myself a helmet.

The man charge's in grunty waves.... GRRRRRRRRRR.
I found myself having to let out a growl whilst paddling for some waves
just so I psych myself into going for it and not pulling back.
Just grit your teeth growl,feel mean,and paddle like all FUCK MATE!!!!!!!!
Otherwise I would not have made the drop probably.
The place is just a full-on pig of a barrel.
Turn's don't serve much purpose except to slow you down here.

The best wipe-out that I saw from jim was like watching some scaled 
down footage of pipe-line (in hawaii).
 
The guy(JIM) loves the late-take-off and doesn't care about getting worked.
This one wave was about a five-footer at a guess and he spun about to
take-off at the last second and got pitched by the wave.
He jumped off his board,and did what I called a full-on Bunjee jump
from about nine or ten feet in the air.

It looked like a bunjee as his board stayed in the lip whilst 
he dropped below it.
So he fell to the trough and his board loop over him.
Thing was the wave was concave under-neath him so only a free fall 
take-off would have helped him make it (he did a good one of those tooo)
!!!!!!!!

I did get into one barrell but piked it by hitting the back-wall of
the wave...half way through it.... :-) I lived.
I was being an observer more just to adjust to the wave and conditions.

To give you an indication of how far off-shore we were (about 800m) there
were fisher-man about 100m from us (probably catching fish) in a boat....

Well,there's only two things left to say.
1) I need a 6'8" and a helmet to surf this wave,and I intend surfing it heaps
more.
2) Jim Jum is a hell-man-pig-dog-tube rider.

Thanx for taking me there Jim.

An un-usually awe-struck 

Nigel.

PS The sun-set was great and the lonely isolation and uneery quiet between
set's is something to treasure (we surfed 3-6pm).
There's no noise once the wave stops breaking.Just voices cackling away.
-- 
Women need to find the right partner to have sex (and sometimes the right
excuse),Men just need to find the right place.