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From: jdliss@unix.amherst.edu (Jeff Liss)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Sommersby Rip Off
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:16:12 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
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Has anyone seen the preview or read about Sommersby, this movie with the
same plot as the Return of Martin Guerre?  I wonder if it's an offical
remake (as are done of the Vanishing and La Femme Nakita) just a rip off.

Jeff
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From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Matt McIrvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: SOLARIS questions
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:53:00 GMT

jwimp@mcs.drexel.edu (Jet Wimp) writes:

>     The film is taken from the novel of the same title by the great
>Polish sci-fi writer Stanislaw Lem.  If you are interested in fiction
>which treats topics such as how human-like consciousness evolves in
>non-human subjects, read his work.  It is mind-blowing.  (All of his work
>is available in English translation from the original Polish.)

_Solaris_ is a great novel, but the English edition is probably 
the worst-translated rendition in English of Lem's work.  It's a second-
generation translation of a French translation of the original novel, and
the language is a little choppy in parts, particularly near the beginning.
I wish they'd get the great Michael Kandel (who translated _Cyberiad_ and
_His Master's Voice_) to work on this one. 
-- 
Matt McIrvin
From: trish.rucker@kingsp.gwinnett.com (Trish Rucker) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Francais movies
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:45:00 GMT
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Reply-To: trish.rucker@kingsp.gwinnett.com (Trish Rucker) 

To: hypes@boi.hp.com (Gary Hypes)
From: Francais movies

GH>Any Francois Truffaunt (sp?) films, e.g., Jules & Jim.

GH>- Gary Hypes -

Yes!  I love Truffaut.  JULES & JIM is one of my favorite movies.   Saw
a retrospective of his films last year at the High Museum here in
Atlanta;  he is extraordinary.  I also like Malle a lot.   Who are your
favorite filmmakers??
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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:00:32
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd -- Now Appearing Nightly With DON HO
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In-reply-to: egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:10:55 GMT


egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:

Ed> measuring each other by the make of car they drove, and Yuppies
Ed> who pride themselves on driving Japanese-made rice rockets, far
Ed> from being superior to the great mass of consumers, buy-into this
Ed> syndrome at an extreme degree.  [...]   Nowadays, imports have
Ed> replaced Cadillacs as marks of status and it is precisely the
Ed> buyers of imports who look down upon the "masses" (note that you
Ed> use the term with contempt)

No, I do not.  You only want to believe so, since you have decided how
I think and what my words mean ...

Lazlo posed the real point-of-view best when he addressed you directly.
Note that you didn't answer this part of his post ...

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

Laz> The fact that the extremely obvious *has* to be stated is what's so
Laz> horribly "uncool" on this case.  Or do you think it's wrong for people
Laz> to point out the shortcomings of the American educational and social
Laz> system in this way?

Materialism, status or product do not enter into it.  Now, if you choose not
to believe me when I tell you this, simply say so and I'll page the waiter
to get the check.  Don't worry, I'll buy.

Ed> And your inability to think, at least with any compassion or good
Ed> sense, is shown by your continuing inability to perceive that some
Ed> situations, including setting oneself afire, warrant stating the
Ed> obvious.

In short, it merits assuming (and by virtue of doing, promoting) the idea
that we cannot think for ourselves.  Beautiful, Ed.  Ever thought of
being Quayle's runing mate in '96?


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Selections from TOP TEN LEAST EXCITING SUPERPOWERS FOR COMIC BOOK SUPERHEROES:
     9. Lightning-fast mood swings
     6. Ability to calm jittery squirrels
     1. Magnetic colon
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From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Subject: Re: Harlan Ellison, 2001 and LSD
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:02:00 GMT

In article <C19Ls5.17v@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack
Campin) writes:
> sbrock@csn.org (Steve Brock) wrote:
> [ about HARLAN ELLISON'S WATCHING ]
>> Most memorable of his opinions in this section are in his reviews of [...]
>> "2001: A Space Odyssey" (he calls it "Kubrick's Folly" and tells viewers
>> to watch it "stoned on acid").
> 
> I wonder if he actually tried that.

I doubt it, or at least, I doubt that he'd admit to it if he had.  He's
stated for decades that he doesn't do drugs, including alcohol.
-- 
Kimberly B. Churchwell, Prog./Analyst, Okla. State U.  | TANSTAAFL, but
Osteopathic College--churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu   | even so, I never
BIX--kchurchwell  AOL--KChurchwel  CIS--72170,1552     | quit hoping.
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From: twr43417@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Trevor W. Ramsey)
Subject: Re: MANHUNTER/SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:50:21 GMT

  As someone said earlier, O.K., I'll bite.
  "Manhunter" is an excellent movie for its time and limited budget.  Mann is
  definitely a revolutionary in his mixing of music, setting and acting in
  his productions.  But as I said, it is a good film for its time, that time
  being the 1980's.  Mann's style was intriguing, but really only held our
  interest for a brief moment.  Once you've seen "Miami Vice" or, the in-
  finitely better follow-up, "Crime Story," you can predict exactly how Mann
  is going to execute his productions.
  Another weakness is the way "Manhunter" was adapted.  I have read both of 
  Thomas Harris' novels, "Red Dragon" and "Silence of the Lambs" and found
  that Demme's movie was much truer to the source than "Manhunter."  If you
  read "Red Dragon," you find that there was so much more going on with the
  characters than was revealed in the movie, "Manhunter."  One earlier re-
  sponse mentioned the superior acting in "Manhunter."  I really don't see
  how this is possible since the actors didn't even have a script capable of
  showing the audience just what was going on.  The ending isn't even like the
  book.  I would agree that the lead in "Red Dragon" was better than the
  Starling character in "SotL," but Jodie Foster was a much better actor than
  her predecessor, simply because of the material in the script.
  I also don't agree that "SotL" focussed too much on Lecter and not enough
  on Buffalo Bill.  I would say that, after viewing the film and reading the
  book that both characters received almost equal attention.  It is simply the
  fact that Lecter's character is more defined, thanks to Harris' earlier 
  work with the Lecter character.  I don't think Anthony (pardon me, Sir 
  Anthony) Hopkins' portrayal was "over the top."  Again, read the book, you
  will see that the script is very true to the dialogue that Harris wrote
  for Lecter.  As for not seeing him as believable, remember the time between
  the two books, in their chronology.  Lecter has been locked up and studied
  for several years in "SotL," whereas in "RD" he has only been in the asylum
  for a short time.  This would tend to change a man, even a psychopath,
  correction, a sociopath.  And besides, he still retains his authority, his
  intelligence and abilities as a psychiatrist.  I'd say he is even more
  convincing as a real character in Demme's version than in the brief scenes
  given to us in Mann's "Manhunter."
  Well, that about concludes my opinions on the matter.  Please feel free to
  reply en masse, or just accept the wisdom from Mt. Olympus.
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From: apodaca@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Mu'tafikah)
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:23:10 GMT

bk@analytikerna.se (Bengt KLEBERG) writes:

|A (minor) hobby of mine is to 'collect' well know films that 
|featured a famous actor/actress before they became famous. Examples:

|[examples deleted]

|Could some better informed souls out there help me with this list of
|actors/actresses - films ?


|Bengt KLEBERG		bk@analytikerna.se

Clint Eastwood was in a film called TARANTULA back in th' 1950s

He's not in the film until the very end, and you don't see his
face, you just hear his voice. He's the pilot of a helicopter (?)
with flight gear obscuring his face.
-- 

____ . . apodaca@ucsu.Colorado.EDU . . ____

cant ... concentrate ... blacking out ...
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From: anish@ctt.bellcore.com (Anish Bhimani)
Subject: REPOST: r.a.m. Oscar nominations
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, New Jersey
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 20:28:11 GMT

Well, the Golden Globes are history, and Oscar ballots are due out to Academy members on Feb. 5th, with nominations announced Feb. 17th, and awards announced March 29th. Balloting is in full swing now, so be sure to get your entry in as soon as you can. That said and done, here is the original post:


You may recall that last year, I conducted a ballot for the readers of r.a.m. to vote on their picks for the 1991 Oscars. However, this survey was conducted only _after_ the nominations came out. Taking the process one step further, I now present to you a call for . . .

THE 1992 R.A.M. OSCAR NOMINATIONS!!!

Between now and Monday, Feb. 15th, 1993 (The Academy's nominations come out on Wednesday, 2/17/93) send your picks for up to 5 nominees in each category listed below. I will tabulate the results and post them to r.a.m. the day before the AMPAS nominations are announced. 

Categories include:

Best Picture
Best Performance by an Actor in a Lead Role
Best Performance by an Actress in a Lead Role
Best Director
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Best Screenplay written directly for the screen
Best Screenplay based on material adapted from another medium
Best Cinematography
Outstanding Achievement in Film Editing
Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction
Outstanding Achievement in Costume Design
Outstanding Achievement in Makeup
Outstanding Achievement in Sound Effects Editing
Outstanding Achievement in Visual Effects
Outstanding Achievement in Sound
Best Original Song
Best Original Score

and, for the diehards:

Best Feature Documentary
Best Short Subject Documentary
Best Animated Short Film
Best Live Action Short Film


Please remember all of the films that came out earlier this year.  I just hate to see poorer-quality films released in December get more attention than possibly better films which came out in the spring. 

For those of you who are interested, I'll post a list of the Golden Globe nominees and winners, in case you need some help remembering what's out there.

Please send all nominations to: anish@ctt.bellcore.com no later than midnight, 2/15/93. I'll repost this message every few weeks between now and then.





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From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: Name of hotel in The Shining?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:30:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.165926.6116@mixcom.com> Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>In <1993Jan19.213043.639@pages.com> roxanne!sue (Sue MacIntosh) writes:
>
>>Does anyone know the real name and location of the hotel featured in The  
>>Shining?
>
>>(... if indeed there is a real hotel...)
>
>
>   The mythical Overlook Hotel in the Shining were sets built on the lot at
>EMI studios in England. However it is based on an actual hotel in very
>similar conditions that writer Stephen King actually stayed at alone for an
>entire month to write the book. I have an interesting article about this
>around somewhere... I'll try to find it and post it here.
>

The word around here is that the hotel was inspired by the Stanley Hotel in
nearby Estes Park.  King lived in Boulder for a while (and I'm told it's 
a setting in The Stand, although I haven't read it).

I've heard that the exterior shots in the film were shot at a hotel in Oregon,
but I don't know where or what the hotel was called.

Wayne

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From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dorion Grey??
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:10:20 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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Summary: Re: Dorian Gray

In article <93018.184928IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
> Could any one tell me if they have heard of "Dorion
> Grey"...? (I assume that he is an actor)
> 
> Thanks!

I'm probably answering this rather late... But Dorian Gray was an author
and poet of great import to the existentialis movement.... 
He was also gay/bi and a periodic drug abuser....but, weren't they all?

I believe he was British...

Coz

	"This ain't no f__kin Weenie Roast!"

			Ray Charles




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From: wayneh@microsoft.com (Wayne Hazle)
Subject: Re: The Vanishing, Dutch vs. US Versions
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:14:34 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

In article <1993Jan21.155459.56042@uvmark.uucp> scholl@uvmark.uucp wrote:
> In article <1993Jan21.000234.655@cs.ucla.edu> 
>   >Interestingly, the trailer for the American version of "The Vanishing"
>   >showed immediately after it, and it looks like Sluizer has caved in to
>   >the Hollywood powers-that-be for this version, on the subject that those
>   >who have seen the original would probably guess is where Hollywood would
>   >most want changes.
> 
> The Vanishing is one of the most thrilling films I have ever seen,
> that left that long-term deep and creepy feeling with me, so much
> that I don't ever want to watch the film again---this and I loved
> it.
> 

To anyone who has not seen the Dutch version by all means RENT IT 
immediately!  AVOID THE AMERICAN VERSION AT ALL COSTS!  (at least until
you've seen the real thing)

As already said this movie will leave you with the creepiest feeling.

I had no idea when I saw it.  I remeber tossing and turning for days...
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: New Kevin Costner film
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:06:46 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

jmccorm@maths.tcd.ie (james mccormack) writes:

>Last summer KC was in Ireland to do research on a film about Michael Collins.
>One of the leaders in the Irish war of Independence. Has any-one heard about
>this in America???
>  Personally I think it would be a terrible film although probably a success
>I dread to think of Costners Irish accent and the film would have to be an
>action-adventure to be successful.

This would be bad news indeed. I have the feeling that Costner's accent would
sound strikingly like his "Robin Hood" affectation. But since civilization
survived Tom Cruise's Irish accent in last year's "Far and Away", the world
may not melt down.
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From: mvburke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mary virginia burke)
Subject: Toshiro Mifune
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:32:27 GMT

Apropos of nothing in particular, can anyone fill me in on what the 
redoubtable Mr. Mifune has been doing in recent years?  Is he more
or less retired from acting?  Is he even still alive?  I know he did
some American stuff like _Shogun_, _Midway_, and something really
weird with Scott Glenn in the early 80s, but has there been anything
more recently?  (If nothing else, the latter film shows that he's 
still got the moves at 60--he still walks with that stalking strut
that I've never seen anyone else do...)

And while we're at it, does anyone know of a handy source for a
couple of his earlier films: _The 47 Ronin_ (I forget the Japanese
title) and _Gambling Samurai_.  

cheers--MVB

"Kill me if you can!"
"It'll hurt."  
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 27 January 1993
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:14:49 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 27
January 1993 (source: Seattle P-I, 27 January 1993). The first dollar
column lists the amount grossed in millions of dollars in the previous
weekend. The second dollar column lists the total gross receipts in the
U.S. through the end of the previous weekend. The fourth column tracks
the number of weeks a film has been on the Top Ten list.

1     ALADDIN                           $  7.4 M   147.9 M 11th week

2     A FEW GOOD MEN                       6.1     109.1   7th week

3     ALIVE                                5.9      16.2   2nd week

4     SCENT OF A WOMAN                     4.7      22.8   3rd week

5     USED PEOPLE                          4.4       7.1   2nd week

6     NOWHERE TO RUN                       4.3      13.7   2nd week

7     ASPEN EXTREME                        3.3       debut

8     THE BODYGUARD                        3.1     106.2   9th week

9     BODY OF EVIDENCE                     3.0      11.6   2nd week

10    FOREVER YOUNG                        2.3      48.3   6th week

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: LIST: Trivia, Cameos, In-jokes, Director's Signatures
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:42:38 GMT

In article <11852@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au writes:

>DIRECTOR'S TRADEMARKS

(should be DIRECTORS' TRADEMARKS, by the way)

Jonathan Demme
- generally gives Charles Napier a role

Robert Zemeckis
- generally finds a role for Wendie Jo Sperber and/or Marc McClure

Jon Alan Conrad
From: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Lorenzo Released?
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:26:20 GMT
Reply-To: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

In <1k15lbINN7to@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:

>Did _Lorenzo's Oil_ get national release last Friday (1/22)?

Yes, it did.  Just saw it in Boston; pretty damn good flick.  Top 10; but
not best of 'em all.

OFFICIAL WHINE:  Why don't any of my friends wanna see CRYING GAME???

Happy Trails,

Todd @ Brandeis
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Alternate Oscars by Danny Peary
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:20:52 GMT


I just picked up this large paperback book:  Alternate Oscars by Danny Peary
(who also did all those fairly good cult movie books.)

Peary picks his winners and nominees in the major categories vs. those of the 
Academy.   Sometimes Peary agrees; often his choices are better and sometimes 
they're worse.

It's a fun book for anyone who watches the Oscars and agrees or disagrees with 
their nominees and choices.

Has anyone else seen this book yet ?

Here's a sample, just to throw a monkey wrench :-)

1963   Best Actor (ACADEMY AWARD): Sidney Poitier  Lilies of the Field
                   DP's choice     Jerry Lewis     The Nutty Professor
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                                               !!#*###

Mike G
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Mini Review: National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:41:40 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1k0vglINN7ia@uwm.edu>, craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu 
(Craig R Albrechtson) writes:

> The two new partners one played by Emilo Esteves as the riggs character 
> and the other played by a man whos name escapes me as the murtaugh character
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Samuel Jackson (Jungle Fever, White Sands, Patriot Games)
	He seems to be slumming...

Greg Bole                             "We're talking about a religious 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu           experience here.  I might say 'doth'
                                       or 'thou' or alot of things."
                                         Steve Martin in _Grand Canyon_
From: a0s5108@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:54:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
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In article <1993Jan25.071049.4088@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> zarthac@bradley.edu (Matt Simmons) writes:
>Mark Fontana (fontana@cis.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>
>: How about an example we're all familiar with.  What about when you're
>: sitting in heavy traffic on the expressway, and cars are stopped as far
>: as you can see.  Then some guy decides he's going to whiz by along the
>: shoulder and cut in somewhere ahead.  Apparently the usual traffic laws
>: don't apply to this person.  When I see this happen, it gets me pissed,
>: and I bet it irritates other motorists as well.
>
>Of course there's always the idiot who lets him back in....
>

I challenge you to hold your ground in a brand new beamer when I shoulder
up to you with my 1982 full-sized pickup truck.  Better yet, one of those
foldup econo-boxes.  If I force the issue, you lose.

-Neal :)
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