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From: qx@shire.math.columbia.edu (Qi Xia)
Subject: Re: How to upgrade to pl5?
Organization: Mathematics Department, Columbia University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:51:13 GMT
X-Posted-From: shire.math.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


In article <1996@lysator.liu.se>, Jan Lien wrote
>I originally downloaded linux 0.97 and got it working from my hard
>disk, without much problems.  I have upgraded to 0.98 pl1, by
>compiling it myself, and that works too.  Now I have tried upgrading
>to 0.98pl4 and 0.98pl5, but with no success.  I can recompile linux
>0.98-5 with no problems, when I boot with 0.98-1.  I boot from
>floppy, so there is no lilo or shoelace or so involved.
>
>The problems start when I boot with 0.98-5.  I can log in ok, but:
>
>-   I can not compile anything.  I use emacs 18.59 (Rick's version
>.........
>-   mount does not work.  I use mount from HJ Lu root disk.  It says
>.........
>What is the recommended way to upgrade from one version to another?
>Must I do:  repartition my hard disk, and install everything from
>pre-prepared root floppy disks again? 

I had the similar experience. In my case, bash broken.
At first it seemed that make doesn't work properly.
I applied Evans' one line patch. Instead dumping core, 0.98.5 reports
which program write to code space. First bash was caught, then a
couple of others. I ftped bash from prep.ai.mit.edu, compiled with
patched 0.98.5. It works fine as a good citizen. bash doesn't been
compiled "out of box". One need modify many places, basicly, some
comflict definitions. One thing is crutial. Comment out initiation
of sys_siglist[]. This is what commit crime. After install newly made
bash, 0.98.5 doesn't complain much. When a couple of other one
recompiled, 0.98.5 seem happy. I will switch back to official 0.98.5
after a little more testing. 

If you need patch for bash, send me email. Here is Evens' patch.
[Evans' patch (Doug Evans, dje@sspiff.cygnus.com)]-------------------- 

*** memory.c=	Tue Nov 17 19:23:22 1992
--- memory.c	Wed Nov 18 08:08:39 1992
***************
*** 467,473 ****
  	if (tsk == current && tsk->executable && CODE_SPACE(address, current)) {
  		/* don't send SIGSEGV when in kernel or v86 mode */
  		if (user_esp)
! 			send_sig(SIGSEGV, tsk, 1);
  		/* Note that we still do the copy-on-write: if the process catches
  		 * SIGSEGV we want things to work..
  		 */
--- 467,473 ----
  	if (tsk == current && tsk->executable && CODE_SPACE(address, current)) {
  		/* don't send SIGSEGV when in kernel or v86 mode */
  		if (user_esp)
! 			printk("%s writes to code space\n", tsk->comm);
  		/* Note that we still do the copy-on-write: if the process catches
  		 * SIGSEGV we want things to work..
  		 */

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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Instilation of Linux, how do I find out how to do it?
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:26:19 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

sexonbd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin David Sexson (Ben)) writes:
>Is there some kind of FAQ for this group or other helpful file
>article.

Perhaps you could try reading the article with the following subject:

Subject: META-FAQ: Linux sources of information

(Maybe I really should post it more often?)

--
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   MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: anyone wants pdksh?
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:38:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov21.003816.5440
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <9211191752.35@rmkhome.UUCP>, rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.000134.4950@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
|> >I have made pdksh 4.7 for sun. If anyone wants it, I can try to
|> >make it for LInux.
|> 
|> Do be aware that PD ksh is less sh compatible than bash.  To see test results,
|> run the test suite for GNU egrep with PD ksh as your shell.  The suite has
|> 119 tests.  It will fail 60 tests with PD ksh and passes all with bash.
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP

I want to use it as sh on my bootable root disk. It is only about 90K. I
haven't had any problems so far. I hope someone could run the test under
Linux.

H.J.
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Q: X Debugger
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:23:35 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <1992Nov18.135929.24864@dgbt.doc.ca> gilles@dgbt.doc.ca writes:
>From what I read on the net, it would seem that "xxgdb" the GNU X Windows
>debugger is available for Linux. Could anybody let me know where I could
>get it please. I could not build it from the original sources.

its on sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/development.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan)
Subject: Re: Packaging Linux
Organization: The Smelly Ditch
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:21:10 GMT

lmorris@mdd.comm.mot.com (Larry Morris) writes:
-} njs@scifi.uucp (Nicholas J. Simicich) writes:
-} 
-} >I personally think that another essential for mass-usage is going to
-} >be a filesystem that doesn't require sync() or fsck.  This isn't an
-} >impossible task, and yes, there is a performance hit, but I don't
-} >think you are going to sell a system to the masses that they can't
-} >turn off whenever they want to.
-} 
-} Let me see:
-} 	OS/2 :  requires Shutdown
-} 	Windows with smartdrv:  requires "smartdrv /c"
-} 	386 Unixes:  You bet they require sync.
-} 	WinNT:	I expect it will need synced (if/when it ships).

	However, SVR4.2, aka Destiny uses the Veritas(tm, I think)
filesystem that does not require syncing, it also does disk striping.

It can be done and it can work reasonably (I understand that
the Veritas filesystem is decent in terms of speed, however I don't
know efficient it is in terms of disk space).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jrs@world.std.com (Rick Sladkey)
Subject: Re: Help needed to compile "nemacs" (Kanji version Gnu emacs)...
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:05:51 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Nov 1992 19:08:21 -0800, dkyoon@alnitak.usc.edu (Dae-Kyun
>>>>> Yoon) said:

DK> I am now trying to compile nemacs-3.3.2 which is a version of
DK> GNU-emacs with Japanese Kanji support.  I believe the nemacs version
DK> is based on emacs-18.55.  I had many small problems while compiling
DK> and all of them could be easily fixed until now.  However I am stuck
DK> with the following compile errors for which I need some help from
DK> the experts, especially from whom have already compiled emacs under 
DK> Linux.

DK> while compiling "nemacs-3.3.2/src/unexec.c":

DK> ...

For this particular problem you should use a patch like the following:

*** unexec.c.orig	Wed Nov 11 01:10:33 1992
--- unexec.c	Wed Nov 11 19:50:02 1992
***************
*** 236,242 ****
  
  extern char *sbrk ();
  
! #if defined (USG) && !defined (IBMRTAIX) && !defined (IRIS)
  static struct bhdr hdr, ohdr;
  #define a_magic fmagic
  #define a_text tsize
--- 236,242 ----
  
  extern char *sbrk ();
  
! #if defined (USG) && !defined (IBMRTAIX) && !defined (IRIS) && !defined(linux)
  static struct bhdr hdr, ohdr;
  #define a_magic fmagic
  #define a_text tsize

DK> I know this is related to the COFF definition, so I tried without COFF
DK> but it also generated lots of error messages from different places.
DK> BTW, I am using "s-usg5-2-2.h" for my configuration file. Is this the
DK> right choice or there is any other (more close to Linux) configuration
DK> file ?

DK> I will appreciate any comments and advice.

It will save you a lot of time if you look at my patches for straight
GNU Emacs included in the file:

tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/packages/emacs-18.59/emacs-18.59a.tar.Z

Nemacs will be very close to this.
--
Rick Sladkey
jrs@world.std.com
From: cvadr021@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: HELP! recompile broke ps.
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:51:32 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadr021


                                
	I recompiled the kernel .98.pl1-38 that came with SLS today. 
Unfortunately, it seems to have broken ps.  Whenever I try to run it I get the
message:                        
                                                 
lseek kmem: unknown error 15158708                      
                                                 
	The only chang

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							David Dhuyvetter
							CVADR021@csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ianj@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Ian Justman )
Subject: Re: Mailserver software
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822    Sacramento CA.  USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:07:15 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:
: 
: if you're used to VMS/ASER/WFS under DOS Waffle, 'mserv' would probably
: work for you...

Know of where I can get it?  Preferably on a BBS as I do not have
direct access to the Internet (but I can dream, can't I?  :-) ).

: -- 
:      ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
:     Running Linux/C-news/nn/Elm/Smail - we don't need no steenkin' MS-DOS 
                    ^^^^^^ ^^

Gotta work on the two packages I'm pointing to, but for my local uses, I like
Tin which is what I'm using here on Citrus Grove, but it's woefully slow over
a 2400bps modem line.

I tend to agree with your barb on MS-DOS.  The more and more I muck around
with Linux, the more and more I realize that I hate MS-DOS and the primates
involved in its "evolution" or "development".  The folks at Mickey-Sloth
could use a little evolution of their own.  Ah well, but that kind of talk
belongs in another echo/conference/newsgroup...  C'est la vie/guerre...
-- 
Born to void warranties!	ianj@ijpc.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jense@stud.cs.uit.no (Jens Kristian Elstad)
Subject: X11 quit problems!!
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:53:14 GMT
Reply-To: jense@stud.cs.uit.no

Hi !

I have just started using Linux with X11.
X11 works fine in vga and 800x600 modes, BUT....
 
I have one big problem: When I quit X11, the screen goes 
completly blanc. I can't get any prompt or any sign of
life on the screen. I can however hear the system work, if I
type command (witch I cant't see).
It doesn't help switching between terms with ALT+F*, no respons.

I have to reboot to use the system again.

I an using SLS Linux v. 0.98, and a Trident 8900c with Xconfig.mono.

Any help on this would be nice...


                           Kristian
                      jense@stud.cs.uit.no
        Computer science, University of Tromso, Norway

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] System V-a-like boot 'n run levels
Organization: FidoNet node 2:252/305 - The Purple Tentacle, Reading
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:53:00 +0000

Ok, I got bored today so I took a look at the Sys V type init that comes 
with admutils 1.4. There were a few problems there the worst of which was 
that it could be knocked into an infinite loop soaking up system resources. 
Anyway, I seem to have it working and built some System V like boot up 
scripts and run level setup scripts.

  So... Uploaded to nic.funet.fi and tsx-11.mit.edu is sysvboot.taz 
(and also Freq'able from 2:252/305 as sysvboot.taz) which contains init and 
shutdown programs modified from the admutils 1.4 source and compiled against 
the jump table shared libraries, a patch file of the changes made and a set 
of scripts to do the biz.

  1. Read the README file. READ THE README FILE!
  2. Make SURE you can boot from floppy and mount your hard disk
     in case of emergency.
  3. Run the INSTALL script

  The INSTALL script is rather verbose. Read what it says. READ WHAT IT 
SAYS. It gives plenty of opportunity for you to shell out check what's being 
done and then continue. I tried to trap most potential problems but I'm not 
(fortunately) omniscient so don't trust me at all :-). Unless you have made 
major changes to what your system does during a boot everything should be 
ok...

  The scripts replace the old rc, rc.local and even rc.net scripts and 
provide for checking filesystems at boot time (or not if you do a fastboot), 
mounting filsystems, configuring swap partitions, configuring tcp, starting 
and stopping tcp daemons, some news startup if you have the relevent bits, 
cleaning temporary directories and more.

  Most of the configuration information used comes from easily understood 
files in /etc/default or, in the case of filesystems, /etc/fstab. No need to 
even try and read all the scripts unless that's how you get your kicks :-).

  Oh, and the tcp start up caters for loopback only systems (i.e. no 
ethernet card to configure). It's in the README...

  Additions/bug fixes to the scripts are welcome of course :-)

  I'll send the patches for init to whoever produced admutils just as soon 
as I find the address (poe?)...


                                Mike

DISCLAIMER: It seems to work for *me*. What's *your* problem?  
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff)
Subject: Re: rm Security Problem!
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:39:49 GMT

root@slave.uwe.ac.uk (Operator (Phil/Dylan)) writes:

>In article <1e8mhlINNcij@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James
>Michael Chacon) writes:
>|> tfoley@r-node.gts.org (Tim Foley) writes:
>|> 
>|> > 
>|> >   Logged in as *anyone* I can delete *almosy any file* with the rm
>|> >command, it just comes up and asks 'override mode 0600' or whatever
>|> >and away it goes!  I was able to delete copies of my passwd and inittab

How about checking the permissions on the directories. If they are
write for everybody, you are according to standard unix conventions
allowed to delete files that you don't need access to. 

I.e. 
ls -ld /tmp/file /tmp
drwxrwxrwx   5 root     root          576 Nov 19 18:38 /tmp
-rw-------   1 rogier   users           0 Nov 19 18:38 file

In this case anybody can delete "file" either by answering yes to the
override question or specifying -f on the command line.

					Roger
-- 
****   a 486 in V86 mode is like a VW buggy with a 6 litre V12 motor.  ****
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: NIGHTMARE@ELM.STREET (Freddie Krueger)
Subject: Atari PTC 1426
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:26:35 GMT
Organization: Beratung fuer Computergeschaedigte

I can't figure out the timings of the Atari PTC 1426
monitor.
I have bought without description, so I haven't got the
slightest idea, what timings are to use.
I am using a paradise/WD 512Kb vga card.
If anyone knows anything about the monitor please email to
Internet : yd52@rs11.hrz.th-darmstadt.de
thanks in advance...

Joe
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: okolbu@ifi.uio.no (Olav Kolbu)
Subject: Wanted : Plus Hardcard driver
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:46:54 GMT
Originator: okolbu@driva.ifi.uio.no


I'm looking for a driver/kernal-patches to let Linux recognise my
105Mb Plus Hardcard IIXL (XLII?). I know such a beast is around,
as I have tried asking for this earlier and received a reply. He
said that he had it and would send it to me, that was a month ago...

Getting a bit impatient, I'm trying again. So, if you know of a site 
that carries it, or happen to have the source lying around somewhere, 
PLEASE drop me a mail.


			Olav Kolbu



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lien@lysator.liu.se (Jan Lien)
Subject: How to upgrade to pl5?
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:03:38 GMT


I originally downloaded linux 0.97 and got it working from my hard
disk, without much problems.  I have upgraded to 0.98 pl1, by
compiling it myself, and that works too.  Now I have tried upgrading
to 0.98pl4 and 0.98pl5, but with no success.  I can recompile linux
0.98-5 with no problems, when I boot with 0.98-1.  I boot from
floppy, so there is no lilo or shoelace or so involved.

The problems start when I boot with 0.98-5.  I can log in ok, but:

-   I can not compile anything.  I use emacs 18.59 (Rick's version
    nic.funet.fi), and M-X compile results in

        shell-init: getwd: cannot access parent directories
	make: *** No way to make target 'disk'.

    (I can however compile with the same emacs, same command, if I
    boot 0.98-1).  I have checked all permissions in superior
    directories, and it is at least r-x.  Please note that this
    problem does NOT occur with 0.98-1.
    I have even tried a new bash from HJ Lu Root disk.  No change.

    (By the way, if I log in as an ordinary user, I get the same
    message   shell-init, but it does not prevent login or running
    programs). 

-   mount does not work.  I use mount from HJ Lu root disk.  It says

        /dev/fd0 already mounted or /mnt busy.

    Nothing is mounted, and I have just booted, nothing else has been
    started.  It does not help to umount /dev/fd0.

-   using old stat() call -r recompile your binary
    OK.  This can apparently be solved by recompiling.  But before
    the problems described above are solved I seem unable to
    recompile.

What is the recommended way to upgrade from one version to another?
Must I do:  repartition my hard disk, and install everything from
pre-prepared root floppy disks again? 


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (David Monro)
Subject: Re: Partition without delete?
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:26:24 GMT

sexonbd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin David Sexson (Ben)) writes:

>Hello out there.  I'd really love to install Linux, but I
>can't afford to lose my DOS stuff :-(.  I read in the FAQ
>that there is a way to partition with out losing all your old
>stuff.  How do you do it?
>Thanx,
>Benjamin Sexson
>sexonbd@sage.cc.purdue.edu

OK, here is how I did it for a couple of machines.
This only applies for reducing the size of dos partitions, not moving
them around. It works best if you have one big partition at the beginnig of the
hard disk.
NOTE: BACK UP FIRST! MAKE A DOS BOOT DISK (OR TWO) WITH A SECTOR EDITOR ON IT!!
SAVE YOUR BOOT SECTOR AND PARTITION TABLE INFO FIRST!! (On paper if need be!)
You will need - a disk defragger and a sector editor capable of recognizing
the partition table and boot sector. (I use Norton 6.01)

First, run the defragger on your partition to get everything packed into the
	lower and of it.
Work out how much space you need.
Edit your partition table to reduce the number of sectors in the partition,by
	changing the ending cylinder (and possibly head) of the partition.
	DO NOT shift the beginning of the partition. Change the total number of
	sectors to match (Norton 6.01 will do this for you if you zero out the
	number of sectors, mark the entry and do 'Recalculate Partition')
Edit the boot sector to change the total number of sectors to match the entry in
	the partition table OR DOS WILL MUNCH THINGS OFF THE END OF THE
	PARTITION!!.

This works fine for me - at this point reboot and do a dir - check if the
	number of free bytes looks right.

THERE IS NO GUARENTEE THAT THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU!!!
I MAY HAVE MADE A TYPO SO BE CAREFUL AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
I have done it to three machines with little problem. The only problem I
have is that I reduced on partition from 40Mb to 20Mb, and now can't get it to
go above 32Mb. The partition table is fine, but the boot sector won't let me
change it properly. I am not in a hurry to fix it though. At one point the
was in a horrible state - it would start to boot, put a line of garbage
on the screen and freeze solid. (Turned out I'd trashed msdos.sys or io.sys)
So be careful, and back up anything you can't afford to lose, and keep a
boot disk with lots of utilities on it in case you stuff up - like something
to save and restore partition and boot sector info. This will resurrect
almost anything done by mucking with the partition table and boot sector,
funny that.

Good luck,
	David Monro
	


-- 
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e-mail: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
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e-mail: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen)
Subject: Re: First Release of the Linux Device List
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:53:47 GMT


>Summary: LOOK IT OVER!  COMMENTS PLEASE!

>			The Linux Device List

>10.  Bus Mouse	(character) ..	bm, psaux (mouse)
>		(If I recall, X Windows requires that
>		 /dev/mouse be linked to one of these...)

No, X is happy using any name. MGR requires /dev/mouse (if I recall :-)

>	0.  /dev/bm:  (Logitec?) bus mouse
>	1.  /dev/psaux:  PS/2 mouse port
>	2.  /dev/bm:  MicroSoft bus mouse
>	3.  /dev/bm:  ATI XL bus mouse

Should all the busmice be called /dev/bm? I think there should be a
1:1 correspondence between a driver and a name. The minor number
identifies the device and the entry in /dev gives it a name by which
user programs can access it.

It would also help avoid some confusion around bus mice if you could
tell what kind of bus mouse the dev file is for, not just 'bm'. (Just
like we say /dev/hda, /dev/sda, etc...)

How about /dev/logibm, /dev/inportm, /dev/atibm?

Just my opinion...

(By the way, the PS/2 mouse is not a bus mouse. It is... well, it's a
PS/2 mouse!)

--
Johan Myreen
jem@cs.hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: davidn@cs.tamu.edu (David E Nichols)
Subject: some good animation programs for Linux and XWindows
Summary: get these and enjoy them
Keywords: animation, x, aardvarks
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:30:55 GMT

Hey you Linux people.  What's up.
I found some cool graphics programs for X windows that compile straight away
and play some various formats.  There is zaps_xflick.tar.Z on phoenix.oulu.fi
in /pub/incoming- it seems to be an excellent FLI player which works very
well with 256-color colormaps (you can also get some FLIs at the same site in
/pub/RayTracker_demos- try machine.lzh if you have a LOT of memory!).  It will
even play the new FLI format with 640x480x256 resolution frames.
Also I found xanim229.tar.Z on amiga.physik.unizh.ch in /amiga/gfx/show.
It will also play FLI files plus GIF 87 and 89a and Amiga IFF animations.
It too compiles straight away for Linux.  It doesn't seem to be as kind with
the colormaps (allocates the whole thing when it has the focus) but it seems
to work pretty well, at least with FLI files.
Anyway I just thought some people would be interested!
happy animations

David Nichols
davidn@cs.tamu.edu


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