HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gally@barsoom.network.com (Jerry Gally)
Subject: Re: Mr. Yeh should make an apology
Originator: gally@barsoom
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:46:45 GMT

To: yeh@netix.com
Subject: Re: Mr. Yeh should make an apology
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Cc: 
Bcc: 

When protesting in ones home country results in prison, torture and
an extended list of sickeningly UNJUSTIFIABLE repression like
punishing an entire family for the protests of a member there-of, I
HEARTILY endorse protesting in whatever context is available.

Even in this country, there are people such as yourself who
are hate-mongers and are willing to apply demented repression
against those who are of a different political bent.  Protesting
in this country in the late 60's was sufficient cause for 
being stalked by government agencies who's mandate was to stiffle
political views which differed from that of the administration.

When persecution exists in ones native land, I say, go and tell
the entire world about it.  Reveal the dirty secrets to the light 
of international scrutiny.  

Patriotism in the face of totalitarianism is the refuge of 
a coward.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: seek@world.std.com (SEEK)
Subject: ORACLE NOVELL INTEGRATOR CONTRACT IN BOSTON AREA ref401K+recruiter+
Reply-To: seek@world.std.com
Organization: SEEK Consulting Companies Ltd
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:44:09 GMT


******************************************************************************
*  these are not entry level positions *  please send resumes in ascii format
******************************************************************************
*  local engineers are preferred       *  all locals will get a response back
******************************************************************************
 
                     ORACLE NOVELL DATABASE INTEGRATOR
 
AVAILABILITY:        IMMEDIATLEY
 
DURATION:            3-4 MONTHS
 
LOCATION:            BOSTON AREA
 
TECHNICAL:           STRONG ORACLE, NOVELL INSTALL EXPERIENCE, 
                     DATABASE CONNECTIVITY ISSUES 
 
ADDITIONAL:          ANY KNOWLEDGE OF DB2, CLIENT SERVER 
                     RELATIONSHIPS, ORACLE INTRICACIES
 
FOLLOW UP:           seek@world.std.com
                     1-617-246-8246 (fax)
                     1-617-246-8234 (phone)
 
CONTACT:             SANDRA STRONG

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jmalis@world.std.com (Judee Malis)
Subject: MAC, multimedia; eastern MA; broker - 1099
Summary: MAC, Multimedia; eastern MA; broker - 1099
Keywords: MAC MULTIMEDIA
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:25:46 GMT

Short-term contract available off-site for experienced MAC developer with
knowledge of Multimedia tools, drivers, etc.  You must be in eastern Mass
for occasional visits with the client.

For more info, please call Judee Malis at Prosoft Consulting: 617-489-3055.
You can leave a message or fax a resume at any time.

Please do not leave mail.
Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:3685 misc.jobs.offered:12186
From: alanh@cup.portal.com (Alan E Hattman)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: SW Des/Dev Engr-C,GUI,Cust. Svcs,Ntwrk Mgmt-Seattle WA (Broker)
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 15:50:42 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

****************************************************************************
  Mini-Systems Associates                Branch Manager: Sally Kernan
  12509 Bellevue-Redmond Road, Ste. 100       Telephone: (206)637-0102
  Bellevue, WA 98005                                Fax: (206)637-0087
                                 Email:  alanh@cup.portal.com (ASCII only)
****************************************************************************

                               Position# 952SK

POSITION TITLE      : SW Design / Development Engineer
SKILL REQUIREMENTS  : C, GUI, Customer Services, Network Mgmt

LOCATION OF CONTRACT: Seattle              START DATE: Nov 1992
CONTRACT PAY RATE   : $28 - $35/hr         LENGTH    : 12+ Months

           C, (working knowledge of Cobol), Customer services,
           telecommunications or strong network system background, CASE
           Tools (Vista), Sun workstations, Tandem, GUI or X Windows,
           RDBMS

                  >> Email responses will be forwarded.<<<
                     Please mention the Postion number.
                  For fastest response call Sally directly.
From: lloyd-ritter@cup.portal.com (Lloyd-Ritter and Associates)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: GUI/Database/General Nw/Unixc,s.bay,recruiter
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:46:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

location-s.bay                           rate-open
start-ASAP                               duration-4-6mo
skills- GUI,Database background,unixc,General networking
      test position but lots of programming !
      API familiarity a plus


call JAYA 415-964-6644,fax 964-8719
no e-mail please
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega)
Subject: Re: Headhunter Warning!
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:34:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.131402.25024@meaddata.com> keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves) writes:
>In article <dickerso.718906344@fester> dickerso@cpat.stortek.com writes:
>>Unfortunately, most Head Hunters use aliases.  Once an alias has a bad rep,
>>the simply switch to another.  This "gentelman" will probable do the same.
>>"There aught to be a law..." :^)
>
>I am afraid that I cannot agree with this. The headhunters I have dealt
>with are honest (at least within the morals of headhunting |:-) and are
>real people with real names that don't change. I have dealt with numerous
>people over long periods of time and have never seen the use of aliases.
>Where are you getting your facts for this assertion?
>

I don't know about most headhunters, but Ed Ateyeh and Tom Pallister
of Pencom Systems, Inc. often use the aliases Ed Taylor and
Tom Morgan.


-- 
Paul Ortega			|  "Would you believe two cops
2015 Cedar Bend Dr., #1105      |   in a rowboat?" - Maxwell Smart 
Austin, TX 78758		|_________________________________
(512) 832-9197			ortega@cactus.org
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,ba.jobs.offered
From: tms@netcom.com (Taos Mountain Software)
Subject: N.Cal Internationalization/POSIX/XPG4 Developer Contract Oppty
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: N.Cal job jobs XPG4 POSIX Taos I18N contract
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:09:50 GMT


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Taos Mountain Software, a Mountain View, CA based Unix  Contract-
ing  and  Training company, has several Unix contract openings in
the San Francisco, CA. bay area.

Taos Mountain offers its W2 contractors Health Insurance,  Educa-
tional  Reimbursement,  business  cards,  Internet access, and we
work hard to keep our  contractors  busy  from  one  contract  to
another.  Contact us for details.

   When replying, please indicate req number and job title.
 If emailing us a resume, please send only flat ascii resumes.

USMail:         Jerry Bowes
                Taos Mountain Software
                415 Clyde Ave., Suite 105
                Mountain View, CA  94043

voice:          (415) 961-2100
fax:            (415) 961-6668
email:          tms@netcom.com

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


                     === Req number 214 ===

Job Title:  Internationalization (I18N) Engineer

Number of Openings:     1

Likely Duration:        3-6 Months

Job Description:        SVR4 POSIX, XPG4 and I18N Developer

        Strong Unix development engineer required to perform following:

        - Modify Unix Systems Libraries for POSIX 1003.2 and XPG4
          compliance.

        - Internationalization work on SVR4 kernel.

Candidate Qualifications:

        - Senior Unix software engineer with strong background in kernel
          and systems libraries.

        - Relevant experience and/or understanding of Internationalization
          (I18N) issues in a UNIX environment.

        - SVR4 experience a big plus.

             === See reply info at top of file  ===

           == End of Taos Mountain Software Posting ==











Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
From:  vlad@vlad.chci.chuvashia.su (Vladimir Sivov)
Subject: Search for partners in making children's fur toys of natural raw material.
Reply-To: vlad@vlad.chci.chuvashia.su
Organization: Cheboksary Center Information
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 21:01:23 +0400

Gentlemen:

  "CONSENT LTD" besides of all produces winter foot-wear of natural
raw material including special and for northern districts of Russia.
   Our firm was recently established but concentration of mind and
indefatigable inspection to check quality of production create the
conditions for constant increase of profits.
   Directors' Council of our firm has made a decision about expan-
sion of our activities. Our views are directed to making children's
fur toys of natural raw material. We search for partners who are
ready to devide incomes from realizing production and expenses of
creation models and transportation. We would welcome the opportunity
to co-operate with you.

Yours Faithfully,
-- 
===== Vladimir Sivov ==== vlad@vlad.chci.chuvashia.su ==== Fido 2:5050/40 ====
---- phone: (8350)221-099 ---------- Cheboksary Regional Relcom Node ---------
From: 0005194333@MCIMAIL.COM (Swami Muthuvelu)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Contract/Permanent openings
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:23:00 GMT


 
MCL Systems is a growing consulting firm based at McLean, 
VA. Currently we are looking for senior consultants in the 
following areas 
 
1. Unix, TCP/IP, Streams, sockets 
2. NFS, DCE, Kerberos, RPC, Yellow Pages 
3. RS 6000, AIX Internals ( Memory mangement, IPC etc) 
4. Unix, Sybase, C++  ( atleast 3 years of Sybase ) 
 
Please send your resumes to: 
 
MCL Systems Limited 
2010 Corporate Ridge Rd 
McLean, VA 22102 
Fax: 703-749-1482 
e-mail: smuthuvelu@mcimai.com 
 
Note: If you do not match the above requirements,
please send the resume only by mail. Your
cooperation would be highly appreciated. 

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: bangell@cs.utah.edu (bob angell)
Subject: NON-CONTRACT business .... GO HOME!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:42:48 MDT
Distribution: w


Folks! this group is for CONTRACT BUSINESS ONLY!!!!  If your offer for work
is not appropriate for a consultant/contractor....DONT POST IT HERE!

Please use the other misc.jobs.* groups where appropriate.

(Now that I've gotten that off my chest, I feel better...<sigh>)

-Bob-


Bob Angell                               | Data Integration (multi-platform)
Principal, Management Systems Engineer   | Health Systems Engineering
Applied Information and Mangement Systems| Database design/development
1238 Fenway Avenue - SLC, UT 84102-3212  | Simulation/Modeling/Neural Nets
bangell@cs.utah.edu; Voice: 801-583-8544 | Product Reviewer-Major Publication

     [Standard Disclaimer: Speaking for the University of Utah, NOT!]
From: sandee@Think.COM (Daan Sandee)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Opportunities in Australia
Date: 7 Oct 1992 17:33:42 GMT
Organization: TMC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Oct7.170220.5907@news.media.mit.edu>, mlj@media.mit.edu (Mary Lou Jepsen) writes:
|> 
|> An employee and an employer both have to jump through many hoops to
|> keep the non-Australian citizen in the country. I'm told there are
|> similar hassles  in the USA for non-citizens, but I don"t think that
|> the AIDS test is required yet, as it is for a Working Visa in
|> Australia. Maybe the USA is getting that harsh as well.

Test for AIDS and syphilis is required for immigrant visa. (Just a data
point. Not intended as a correction.) 
A *temporary* visa for a professional-level job (e.g., programming) is
not too much of a hassle. An *immigrant* visa is a long, painful process,
although it helps if your employer has a good friend in Washington. 

Daan Sandee                                           sandee@think.com
Thinking Machines Corporation
Cambridge, Mass 02142                                 (617) 234-5044
From: lloyd-ritter@cup.portal.com (Lloyd-Ritter and Associates)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: sys admin/test/install/solaris,s.bay/recruiter
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 10:58:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

location-s.bay                                     rate-open
start-iwk                                          length-3mo
skills-systems administeration/test/install.
upgrade tool

test execution job


please call Jaya at 415-964-6644,fax 964-8719
no e-mail please
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: Re: growing number of contract-seekers depricated
Keywords: don't post unless you are buying, not selling, services
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:42:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.052616.29395@telebit.com> brunner@telebit.com (Eric Brunner) writes:
>The subject line _should_ say it all, but dollars to doughnuts it needs to
>be spelled out. Misc.jobs.contract is for solicitation of offers to under
>take non-employee work -- this means that someone with money wants to buy
>temporary time and/or talent, they post here.

This is certainly one proper use of the group.

>
>Misc.jobs.contract is _not_ a cheap way to advertize one's availability
>to do work, though it is a _very_ effective way to make it known that one
>is without a clue.

I don't remember any restriction like that in the group charter.  Anyone
have a copy handy?

People post their availability here regularly.  It probably doesn't
get them replies from anyone but headhunters and body shops, but I
don't see any reason to stop them.

-- 
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=			Jeff Kenton	(617) 894-4508			=
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From: adm@neuro.duke.edu (Alan Magid)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Clinical Trials Data Manager (Colorado)
Summary: Experience in pharmaceutical trials a NECESSITY
Keywords: Two positions. Immediate need. Possible permanent job.
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:10:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clinical Trials Support Services/The Blethen Group


	URGENT NEED: CLINICAL TRIALS DATA MANAGER 

Our client needs two seasoned pros who know how to manage data flow. This
person will manage the interaction between this breakthrough
biotech/pharmaceutical company and the CRO's doing the Phase III
monitoring. The CRF's are piling up. They need people who know how to
break the log jam! [and who may want to ski the Rockies this winter!]

While this is not a hands-on programming job, a working understanding of
how data moves from the CRF's to the database is required. 
The assignments are minimally thru Jan 93 but will likely go longer.
Rapid growth of this Company (>500 employees) gives the contractors who
fill these positions the inside track at a permanent position, if
desired.

Call me if you want more info (800/677-8031). 

Top rates, relocation and
maintenance costs paid.

Mail address:
Alan Magid, Ph.D.
Clinical Trials Support Services
The Blethen Group
P.O. 14289
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709

Fax: 919/227-6274

Email: (ASCII only) adm@neuro.duke.edu
From: laurad@kenda.mv.com (Laura dos Santos)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: ***UNIX/ADA/Sys. Ad in Virginia***
Distribution: usa  
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 14:22:14 GMT
Organization: KENDA Systems, Inc.


Greetings, 
 
KENDA Systems, Inc. is an international software organization, specializing
in placing quality computer consultants for a wide variety of companies
throughout North America and Europe.       

Currently, my Washington, DC Office has an opening for a UNIX/ADA/Systems 
Administrator to work on a 3+ month DOD contract in the Northern Virginia area.

For immediate consideration, please call Nancy @ (301) 595-3022.

Regards,
Laura
Laura dos Santos				Telephone: (603) 898-7884
laurad@kenda.mv.com				Address:   KENDA Systems, Inc.
						           1 Stiles Rd.
						           Salem, NH 03079
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Oracle contacts Dallas Tx
Summary: Dallas contract positions
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:06:42 GMT

Dallas contract postions
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY RESUMES, I AM A CONTRACTOR POSTING THIS FOR MY RECRUITER

Oracle contract support programmer

qualifications

   Good oral and written communication skills, will interview database end
   users and produce documentation.

   3-5 years demonstrated proficency in systems analysis for support of
   techincal and scientific projects.

   3-5 years experience in Oracle design snd development, including SQL Menu
   and SQL Forms V3.0.

   Extensive knowledge of Fortran and C programming languages.

   BS degree in a technical/scientific field preferred.


Mechanical engineer

   Must have heavy analysis with large stuctures, software package undefined,
   experience in a research enviroment desirable.

contact 

   Lynn Wickham 208-529-8700 (8701 fax)

please no email
               kris


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: Re: accepted an offer which was ridiculously low and I'm not happy...
Keywords: job, getting screwed, accepting offers when you're tired
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:23:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.033210.15862@panix.com> ruthless@panix.com (Ruth Ditucci) writes:

	[ strange scenario deleted ]

>I feel "bullied."  Now, give me some advice and be straight...
>
>It's a good job with a great company.  They were just cited 10th in the

It's also a job working for a jerk.  You have been bullied, and maybe the
other women was too.  If you still want the job you need to decide what
conditions are acceptable and enforce that decision before you start.  It's
not the same job if you take it on his terms.

>100 fastest growing companies in US by NEWSWEEK.  They showed record earning
>profits for seven years in a row.  Their stock went from 22 to 41 in three

Are you getting stock options? Don't be overly impressed by things that have
no bearing on your working conditions and compensation.

>months and it's expected to be over 70 by December.  I believe there's no
>reason for him to have made me such a low offer.
>
>Give me some logic to support my argument when I go re-negotiate this.

Logic isn't nearly as important as deciding what you want in advance and
sticking to it.  His logic may be to buy you as cheap as possible, and
to keep you under his emotional control.  Determination can be worth more
than logic.

>
>Thanks in advance.

Luck.

-- 
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From: Misara@cup.portal.com (Misara and Associates)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: SONET Development - SF (Recruiter)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 08:57:32 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

10/12/92

Misara & Associates, a full service engineering search
firm, has positions in the San Francisco Bay area.

Position:
Senior Telecommunications Development Engineer to design 
and develop fiber optic telecommunications products.
Position is for either permanent or contract.

Requirements:
MSEE, 5-10 years product development experience in 
telecommunications, DS1, DS3, SONET a must.

Only qualified candidates with SONET experience will be 
considered.  THIS IS NOT AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION.

Respond to:  Misara & Associates
             39055 Hastings St., # 207A
             Fremont, CA 94538

             Fax:   510-796-0738
             Phone: 510-796-3074

             email: misara@cup.portal.com
                   (ASCII format only)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: sethg@dcatlas.dot.gov (Seth Grimes)
Subject: Re: Headhunter Warning!
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:56:28 GMT

steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman) writes:

>I received a call the other night from a Peter Jeloff (sp?) of
>Integrated Solutions or Systems, of Newport Beach, CA. He wanted me to
>provide him with some names.

>I asked where he got my name, and he would not tell me. A asked him
>the company he was representing, and he would not tell me. I said I
>would not, as a matter of principle, provide names of people unless I
>checked with them first, and that I wouldn't check with anyone unless
>I knew something about the position.

He probably got your name from some list and not from a personal referral,
but he didn't want to tell you that.  He wouldn't tell you the company
because he was afraid you or your friends would go to them directly, or
maybe he didn't have a retainer but instead wanted some resumes he could
shop to a company in order to get them to retain him.  If you really care,
I'm sure you could follow up his abusive behavior with calls to the Better
Business Bureau and whatever headhunters associations there are.  If he's
successful overall, however, a call to his employers wouldn't do any good
because I'm sure they know how he works and don't care so long as he makes
them money.

Remember, headhunters are salespeople whose primary interest is in making
money, and you and job openings are just commodities to be brought together
to them.  Some realize that courtesy and honesty are more effective tools
for this in the long run.

Seth Grimes, dcatlas!sethg@uunet.uu.net
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: An open letter to the US employers
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:14:44 GMT

Dear Employers in the US:

Some thousands of Chinese nationals finally got their free grenn cards (i.e.
refugee) after they successfully sold their home country, China.  Those 
refugees are of no morality, and simply are liers: they declared that they 
faced danger to return to China, and I believe that everyone knows how 
dangerous to travel back and forth between here and China these days.

I urge your company NOT to offer any privilege to those refugees when they
compete your comany's open position with other non-refugee candidates.  Your
cooperation will recover the damage made by those refugees, George Bush and 
other US legislators.  Thank you.

Mr. Shannon T. Yeh
Irvine, California

PS: I am not a student.  I just cannot tolerate those who raped justice.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: clay+@cs.cmu.edu (Clayton Bridges)
Subject: "depricated" deprecated
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:33:27 GMT

   From: brunner@telebit.com (Eric Brunner)
   Subject: growing number of contract-seekers depricated

   [...] Misc.jobs.contract ... is a _very_ effective way to make it
   known that one is without a clue.

Why, yes it is, Eric. Not only was the substance of your post
incorrect, but you misspelled deprecated.
From: fischer@li.serum.kodak.com (Chris Fischer (x39613))
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Insurance
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:09:05 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co. - Clinical Products Division

Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: Distribution: 
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Keywords: 

Awhile back there was a discussion here about insurance a contractor would
need.  Of course, I didn't save it.

So, can somebody post a brain-dump of what I would need, what I should
pay, which insurance companies have decent policies?

Thanks.



-- 
Chris Fischer (fischer@serum.clpd.KODAK.com)
They never even listen to my opinion, why would they make it policy?
"The healthy gum tissue of our liberties are being eaten away by the 
 periodontal disease of government regulation." - D.Barry