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Hi all (and Carolyn, too!),

I think the major astrological event of the 20th century was the
discovery of Pluto.  As I remember reading about it, when Pluto
was discovered, it was (or very soon was in) major difficult
aspects to the other planets.  Sorry I cannot be more specific
here, but I don't have an ephemeris in front of me.

Anyway, this was sometime in the early to mid-1930's.  We were
in the Great Depression and what followed was World War II.  What
also followed was a major transformation in the world and world
powers, economies, etc.  Much was destroyed and re-built during
this period.  All of the action words in the paragraph are also
keywords for Pluto.

So, that's my vote for the astrological event of the century!

sk

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"Computers, Music, Astrology, The Course in Miracles, what's next??"
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 23:21:58 EST
From: <EJAHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Amy's chart info :->

I don't have the newspaper handy, but the crowd on the Donahue show just comple
tely tore in to Mary Jo and Joey.  Mary Jo says that she believes Joey, that he
did not have an affair with Amy, and Amy shot her because she had gotten carrie
d away with her one-sided infatuation with Joey.
Or words to that effect.  There was very little sympathy for her on that score.
The      audience said things like "Amy shot the wrong Buttafuoco,
and she aimed too high."  It was *ugly*.  Donahue even apologized to them after
the show.
From: sca@gese.ge14.mdadv.gv.at (Petzi Schweda)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Planet position calculation algorithms
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:21:20 GMT
Organization: MD-ADV, Vienna, Austria
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Originator: sca@gese0n.ge14.mdadv.gv.at


Where are the algorithms used by astrolog described ?
Don't tell me where the sources are kept - I already had a glance on them, in fact, thats why I'm asking ...
BTW, I ported a similar (but less exact) algorithm from C64-Basic to VAX-C over the years without understanding it ...
thanks,
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Petzi Schweda (sca@gese.ge14.mdadv.gv.at)
MD-ADV, Municipality of the City of Vienna, Austria
From: Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: May you live in interesting times.....
Followup-To: alt.astrology
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:54:01 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
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Carole wrote to Dave
 
 To me this looks like a project you were not able to
> >get off the ground and an angry situation may have developed as a result. 
 
>Dave wrote,  Hi Carol, 
> I have to say I can't easily connect what is happening to much of what you
> write.  Perhaps you are trying to illustrate the 'astrological paradigm' for
> me by example by showing the difficulty of interpreting celestial events?  If
> so, you have made your point, but quite frequently people get much more
> specific, usually after the fact, around here.
  
> Well I did actually solve a problem I had been working on before Christmas
> last Friday, but it was not insurmountable by any means, and did not require
> any vast creativity 
> behavior modification or just the usual good New Year's intentions falling by
> the wayside.  I suppose you could tell me... 
Carole wrote: 
> >Oh, yes, Mars energy moves forward 2/15 and will be back to actively
> >complete the matter at the end of March.    
Dave wrote: 
> Again, hard to interpret in light of your general comments.  But I appreciate
> the response and the more congenial tenor of this discussion compared to what
> we have suffered through in the past...perhaps that is the real breakthrough?


Yes, Dave, you are mellowing quite nicely - this list couldn't be the
influence.....hmmm.

Perhaps the difficulty in connecting to what I described was my dramatic
approach to the Mars activity vs. your deep analytical and logical approach
to what actually took place.  Actually you did act out and experience what
I described - my choice of delineation probably won't ever connect with
what you would like to hear.
  In chart comparison, my Moon is conjunct your Neptune and our Suns are in
square aspect (a bit wide). 
We can still talk but the tension is always present.  A brief
interpretation of that is - a clash of egos and obscured emotions.

Taking a second quick glance at your chart, I see you are finishing up your
experience with your Saturn return.  I do have quite a nice article on that
subject, written by Skye Alexander.  lf you would like a copy, send me your
address & I'll put it in the mail.  Congratulations on your astrological
coming of age!  Happy debut into "This is *MY* life".

It's interesting that you write "I'm still burning time here in
alt.astrology".
Why are you drawn to this list?

Regards and a happy new year to you, Carol

  
  
    
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: M.A.Pye@bradford.ac.uk (Michael Pye)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Cyberpunk gifs
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:15:52 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91756349@ccw302
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Are there any ftp sites out there where I can get some
cyberpunk related graphics ? (ie gif or jpg file format).
For example, any gifs of Bladerunner or other movies ?

Cheers
Mike
University of Bradford
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: Neuromancer & the Finn
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:28:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.095645.18867@ousrvr.oulu.fi> sn@phoenix.oulu.fi (Sami Nieminen) writes:

>   So, it's seems to be almost a matter of opinion. If Gibson's own is
>not available, the subject is probably over. Although, Finn is (IMHO)
>presented having some typical Finnish characteristics, like being
>dirty and unsocial... he could be.

  I find your generalization about Finns rude and offensive and most
  of all inaccurate.  
  What exactly do you means Finns are "dirty?  I'd be very interested 
  in hearing your views on this matter.  Do you refer to the general
  sexual preferences of Finns, or hygiene?  A nation where
  many people go to sauna even just about every day I simply cannot
  see your point.  If hygiene was not the issue here, then you might
  care to explain what is wrong with the sex-life of your average Finn?
  
  Finns might be described as being somewhat reserved and silent, but 
  unsocial is in my opinion an inaccurate description.

  Being a citizen of Finland yourself, I find your way of promoting
  Finland to the world highly unique, to put it mildly.

	- Mika

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From: cstockwe@orion.oac.uci.edu (Craig Stockwell)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Gibson's draft of Alien III script
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:30:18 GMT

I also had a friend purchase the Gibson script; we agree -- MUCH BETTER !!!

But perhaps harder to implement ... still, I.L.M. does good work ...

Under $30 seems reasonable for the script (I think Paul paid $20 for his copy at a convention).

	- Craig "GIbson Knows Aliens" Stockwell
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: sn@phoenix.oulu.fi (Sami Nieminen)
Subject: Neuromancer & the Finn
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:31:58 GMT


   I recently came across the finnish translation of 'Neuromancer',
and saw to my surprise that the name of the character 'the Finn' had
been translated literally, i.e. meaning 'Finnish citizen'. I had
thought that 'the Finn' was only a (nick)name.
   How is this handled in other translations? Has Gibson really meant
the character to be Finnish, or is this (as I presume) only the
translators' way of boasting their own national ego ? 
   (Yeah, I am a Finn myself.. it'd cool if I knew that Gibson
*himself* had known that there is a place called Finland and even
created a character born there. B-))

---sn@phoenix.oulu.fi
From: richter@hardy.u.washington.edu (The Great Wild Beast 666)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Caller ID? NOT! Divergent Human Evolution.
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:43:06 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article <1992Dec31.024511.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>Divergent human evolution. A world were some have tech and other do not..
>Were some have money and others do not.. IT will be interesting to see how
>people handle being plugged in, and how some handle not being plugged in?
>Will humans start to diverge into different sub-groups or maybe cyberpunk
>species? Where will humans be in say 200 years? What new addictions will we
>have, also new ways to handle reality? Also how far will people go to loose
>that dangling body of protoplasm and flesh, and how far will people go into
>becoming linked into a computer.. Imagine a person who looses their body and
>becomes a natural AI? Also what will be changed in humans..

	It will be interesting, to say the least -- "natural" evolution 
will not be fast enough to handle sudden extreme changes in environment
(i.e., space migration, undersea colonization), and will be largely useless
on a planet where we survive by our wits, not our muscles.  We'll maybe lose
some body hair, our wisdom teeth, our smallest toes; and the rest is up to
us.  Physical modifications and mutations will become easier, more efficient,
and more common -- changed by doctors to help you work, survive, enjoy 
your life.
	But all of this is overshadowed by mental evolution.  We have new 
symbols, new worldviews, new ways of thinking -- our machines (reflections 
of subconscious functions as well as conscious necessity) have fed back and
are changing us.  We are growing, mutating -- changes in mind spark changes
in body, changes in environment spark changes in mind.  We accelerate, faster
and faster and faster...
	Humanity has reached the point of no return.  We are gaining the 
ability to hardwire and softwire our bodies as never before.  The fate of 
the species is in our hands, more now than ever before. 

	Another slight change in subject....

	J. Richter

>
>Michael Adams
>Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
>nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
>
>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: steve@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve (PrettyBoy) Barclay)
Subject: Re: Agrippa *** HAS *** been cracked!!!
Organization: mikejag (mike) is a private system in Vancouver, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:09:02 GMT

I went to a reading by Bill Gibson on the weekend over in Victoria.  His latest
seems to be quite a bit lighter than his past stuff.  Mind you I gather from 
some of the stuff he said during his presentation that he thinks he should be
considered a humorist.. !

I asked him how many copies of Agrippa sold and his answer was "very few".  He
also said that he suspected that the publisher made very few, concluding this
from their reluctance to return his phone calls.

It was a great presentation.  After the reading he took questions with
Gerand Lanier (I think I spelled that wrong...) who had done a presentation 
the night before.  I missed it!  Damn! Damn! Damn!  After having heard him
speak I REALLY wished I had heard it.

Gerand (sp?)  was quite firm in his belief that VR will NOT replace television
simply because it requires interaction.  Apparently this coupled with the fact
that VR sets would have to have phenomenal resolution on the headsets makes him
think that TV is here for a long time yet, whereas VR will eventually make the
telephone obselete.  Don DeBrant (Author of that amazing book "The Quicksilver
Screen" Plug Plug) who saw the presentation with me disagrees strongly.  He
feels that the technology is real close and that VR TV will happen.

I could kind of see it if VR TV put you in the scene, having you follow along
in the action like an invisible third party, and maybe letting you look around
without actually DOING anything.  Anybody got any ideas on how VR TV might 
work?  Anybody got any ideas on just how fine the resolution would have to be
on the eyesets of a VR headset to make a scene that would be...well...realistic?
Steve
y
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From: static@freeside.com (Static)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Agrippa *** HAS *** been cracked!!!
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 21:02:09 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

chubbard@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Charles William Hubbard) writes:

> >No offense ARGUS, but I fell off my chair laughing
> >when I read the excitement in your posting.
> 
> Yea, a guy tries to do his fellow netters a favor so let's all cut him down
> and make him feel like an idiot!  Yea, that's cool, right?
> 
> I for one, didn't have a copy of Aggripa until that post you're so quick
> to cut down and I appreciated it.
> 
> C.
 
 
Yeah.... agreed man.. how does HE know how hard it is to crack it.. not 
to mention his intents were good! Way to go Argus!!!


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From: morpheus <morpheus@entropy.mcds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: DEA, Secret Service,
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 15:16:00 EST
Organization: No Pity For The Majority!  [private]

mykel.alvis@the-matrix.com (Mykel Alvis)  writes:

> Not that you're completely wrong.  But the sweeping generalizations about the
> three-letter government agencies borders on paranoia.  They're not all
> out to get you, or anyone else.  The DEA has a job to do, just like the rest
> of us.  So does the SS, the FBI, the CIA, the IRS, the NSA(who?), and all 
> the other government agencies.

Most of their jobs revolve around restrictions... restricted recreation,
restricted privacy, restricted freedom-of-thought, restricted privacy again,
theft, and even more restricted privacy...



morpheus@entropy.mcds.com ("morph")    |    My life is for itself, and not a
Obsolete deity for hire.  Cheap.       |         spectacle.  - Emerson
From: z3kpw@ttacs1.ttu.edu ("Wheeler, Kevin")
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: stuff to read for free
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:50:00 GMT
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From: Chris.Knight@f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Knight)
Sender: FredGate@p0.f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: ALAN STRANG/MAKECASH
Date: 05 Jan 93  16:49:08 CST

  Who are you, Tippy Gore?

p.s. Fuck the PMRC


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From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Argus)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Agrippa *** HAS *** been cracked!!!
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:11:49 GMT
Organization: the Polyhedron Group
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Jan5.113125.16371@jyu.fi>, mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
wrote:
> 
> In article <1993Jan5.045942.15513@serval.net.wsu.edu> chubbard@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Charles William Hubbard) writes:
> >>No offense ARGUS, but I fell off my chair laughing
> >>when I read the excitement in your posting.
> >
> >Yea, a guy tries to do his fellow netters a favor so let's all cut him down
> >and make him feel like an idiot!  Yea, that's cool, right?
> >
> >I for one, didn't have a copy of Aggripa until that post you're so quick
> >to cut down and I appreciated it.
> 
>   Right on!  I happen to have a copy, but I still appreciate the guy
>   doing a favor to the rest of us.  Why is it so darn difficult to
>   just email the reply and tell the guy this is old news, but thanks
>   for the thought?  
> 

Actually, one person -did- e-mail me after that post, and told me,
politely, that it had been cracked a week earlier. The main reason I posted
it the way I did was that I saw NOTHING in the last 5 days posts (all my
site hangs on to, unfortunately) indicating that -anyone else- had seen it.


I'm usually too busy on several other newsgroups to check this one often
enough to catch everything. And the groups I -do- read regularly were
generating upwards of 50 posts a day per newsgroup to keep up with, as well
as the holidays themselves demanding time. Small surprise that I missed it,
given when the news apparently broke. So the fact that it was old news
eluded me. I figured, if it's news - great. Some of you might get to see
the darned thing for the first time. If it was dated information, I still
might cover the bases for a few others who had missed the original posting
about it. Either way, -someone- benefited from the effort.

I'm not offended by the responses here. I've been flamed a lot worse, for
giving well-intentioned advice. I still think it was worthwhile to post,
since obviously there -were- several people who had not seen it yet. And
after all, supposedly Gibson -wanted- to have it spread electronicly after
it was cracked.

Argus
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From: eng10284@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHIANG HENG KHENG)
Subject: Re: cyberpunk at the arcades
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:58:17 GMT


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From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: FutureCulture
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:58:27 GMT


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From: bladex@wixer.cactus.org (David Smith)
Subject: Re: Overly Large Posts, to much?
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:45:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.034922.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>I know it is obnoxious when people post pure drivel, but ut can be just as bad

>when they post overly large files.. I know someone on this list is a netted BB
S
>sysop who has to pay for the large band width net feeds.. Am I eing wrong for
>asking that people post soem example of thier work and a site where they can
>get a copy.. OR someway to email request it..

Are you specifically complaining about the Cyberspace Vanguard e-zine?  If so,
 then please note that cn577@cleveland.freenet.edu is their e-mail address.
Complaints directed to that address will be *much* more effective than open-
ended questions to the Net.

I know that CV printed an excerpt of the premiere issue as a taste or teaser
of things to come.  You will get more results if you suggest that they
consider similar teasers in the future as an advertisement for their
publication.

>
>What does all you all think about this idea??
>
>==
>==
>Michael Adams alias Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu
>


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  bladex@wixer.cactus.org           |              Cyberlicious Software
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the squalid intellectual environment that surrounds them.  This is not a
bad goal."  Karl Myers, Talking Raven 
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From: eng10284@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHIANG HENG KHENG)
Subject: Re: cyberpunk at the arcades
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:00:23 GMT


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