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From: jhart@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Jim Hart)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Trying to find watch/compass.
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:29:25 GMT
Reply-To: jhart@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Jim Hart)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Wichita KS

In article <19qneaINN25p@gap.caltech.edu> salmon@cco.caltech.edu (Lynn Garry
Salmon) writes:
>
>I'm trying to find a watch with a compass.  Has
>anyone ever seen one of these?  If so, where can
>I find it?
>   Lynn <><                            ________     
>                                      / o      \ /  
>   salmon@eql.caltech.edu             \__ ``   / \  
>                                                /_____/     
Bass Pro Shops, Cabela's, Gander Mountain, to name three.  Their catalogs
have just that item.

-- 
 Jim Hart NCR Wichita   | "If the day ever comes when I judge the success of
 (316)636-8434          |  a fishing trip by the weight of the creel at the
                        |  end of the day, I hope that I shall have sense
                        |  enough to quit fishing."    {Harold Hollis, 1945}
From: jim@mwhhlaw (James P. Cavanaugh III)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't buy Nestle
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:55:56 GMT
Organization: Martin Wade Hartley & Hollingsworth


	OK.  Let's eliminate infant formula from third world markets.  
(an impossibility, but never mind.)  I can see the headlines now: "A  
THIRD WORLD BREAST-FED CHILD DIES EVERY 30 MINUTES BECAUSE OF MOTHERS'  
MALNUTRITION".  Of course, the fault would lie with rich capitalist  
bastards who don't donate food.

Jim Cavanaugh
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: mpb@troy.uucp (22161-bunz)
Subject: Re: Hazardous water park - Schlitterbahn (long)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 15:48:10 GMT

In article <COSC16TT.92Oct4235729@menudo.uh.edu>, cosc16tt@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.) writes:
> In article <81059@ut-emx.uucp> cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
> 
>    had taken any action first. See below.) I did not contact the BBB 
>    because I didn't think they would be effective. I thought about the 
> 
> The Schitterbahn is not a member of the local BBB.
> 
>    didn't know how to get the insurance company's name. I am pretty 
>    sure that Schlitterbahn wouldn't give it to me. Any suggestion as 
>    how to get the insurance company's name?	
> 
> Because they ar enot required to.  This is completely irrelevant to
> you though.  You cannot sue the insurance company anyway (well, you
> can but the insurance company has not damaged you in any way).  You
> sue the water park and their insurance company is obligated to defend
> them.  They have absolutely no responcibility to provide you with som
> much as the time of day (and likely have been advised to do exactly
> that -- say nothing).
> 
>    On September 24, I received a reply from the General Manager,
>    Richard Faber, of Schlitterbahn which I have attached to this 
>    posting. In his letter Mr. Faber said they are investigating 
>    the matter. I hope he is sincere. 
> 
>    Schlitterbahn is now closed for the winter. I intend to write to	
>    Mr. Faber before the their re-opening next summer and ask him what
>    his investigation discovered and what actions he had taken if any.
>    In the mean time, I am not pursuing the matter any further.
> 
> This may be a bad idea in the long run.  There are statutes of
> limitations that are kind of important.
> 
>    When you visit Schlitterbahn, or any similar water park, enjoy and
>    be very cautious.
> 
> Also when you are driving, taking a shower, or just going to the
> beach.
> 
> Since you don't seem to understand how liability cases work I would
> suggest you talk with an attorney of your own -- someone who is
> working for you.
> 
> Good luck with achieving your goals in this matter.
> 
> -dennis
> --
> Dennis Gray, Jr.                 "What the hell were you doing???"
> 
> DGray@uh.edu                   "Attempting the hell to communicate."
>                                      -from The Voyage Home

Dennis,

While reading this thread I did not get the impression that Mr. Ng
was looking to sue the water park, at least not for cash.  I got
the impression that Mr Ng was trying to prevent future accidents,
and his hope was that if he got ahold of the insurance company,
they might threaten to cancel their insurance if the water
park didn't improve the saftey of the ride.

Maybe I've watched too many XYZ Insurance commercials where they
take about working with their policy holders to hold down claims.

Marc
From: kvick@ccscola.Columbia (Kim S.)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Optifast
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:24:57 GMT
Organization: NCR CCSD Columbia

<1992Oct1.074210.1529@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Keywords: diet body metabolism cold time for a new thread sex

In article <1992Oct1.074210.1529@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU
(Richard Tjoa) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone out there has had experiences with Optifast (or
>the like) liquid diet plans.  More specifically, they say that while
>on the plan, you will very likely feel cold, because your body temperature/
>metabolism will be slowed down/reduced.  A friend of mine was on the plan
>for a while, now she's not, but she's always cold...  Anyone know anything
>about it?
>
>Also, it would seem to me that lowering metabolism rates would be totally
>dumb, after all, wouldn't you want to be burning as many calories as you
>possibly could, while taking in less?
>
>
>-Richard

Yes, I have been on a liquid diet plan - Medifast - and yes, I am always cold.
Before I spent 3 months on the diet (which, by the way, was 3 years ago), I
was very hot-natured.  But now, even 3 years later, I am extremely sensitive
to cold temperatures.

Your metabolism slows down because of the drastic decrease in the number of
calories consumed.  Consistent exercise will moderate - but will not prevent -
the drop in metabolic rate.

I liked the diet while I was on it.  However, 3 months after I finished the
diet, I was hospitalized for four and a half days with dehydration and extreme
stomach cramps.  All of the many doctors who examined me said that it was a
result of the diet.
-- 
*****************************************************************************
Kim S. Vick                             "Please, Lord, let me prove to you
kim.vick@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM              that winning the lottery won't spoil
I want my zip code to be 90210.          me!"
From: rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re:  JC Penney TV's ~ 4
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:45:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: aramis.Oct.1.15.45.54.1992.1980
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Sep28.163033.282@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> cvantwrp@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Cyndi Van Antwerp) writes:

> I once had a JC Penney TV.  I had it for about five years and had no
> problems with it whatsoever.  However, after I sold it -- it lasted
> about two months and then died.
> Cyndi Van Antwerp

About 2 yrs ago, I bought my brother-in-law's 27" color console tv
that he bought new from jcpenney's 8 years before. The set works
great (although certainly newer sets have crisper colors and picture,
this set still has pretty sharp colors and picture) but has one slight
problem - certain channels have no audio, unless the set is wired to a
cable box, which mine is. He told me that it is really an RCA set with
Penney's name on it. 

Mark
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: carl@neocad.com (Carl Stern)
Subject: Re: Diamond Advice Wanted
Keywords: diamond
Organization: NeoCAD, Inc.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:22:47 GMT


     I believe the original poster asked about the value of a D color,
VSS2, .79 carat diamond.  I think the price was in the $3-4000 range.
Someone else pointed out that VSS2 is not a clarity rating, it must be
either a VVS2 or a VS2.  That same person also said this was not a good deal.
I must disagree.  I have consulted the Rapaport Diamond Report.  This is
a listing of New York wholesale prices.  This is like the blue book or
NADA guide for cars.
     A D color diamond at .79 carats is listed as follows:

          VVS2: $4819          VS2: $3555

These prices are from a February 92 listing, but I doubt the prices differ
more than $1-200 in either direction.  A retail asking price like in a
mall jewelry store will often be double these prices.  So if the person
is getting this stone for that price they are getting a very good price, 
either near wholesale or much lower than it, depnding on what the stone
really is.  You can't get much better prices than that.
     This is an excellent quality stone.  It is far better than you will
find in almost any engagement ring.  Typical is probably an H color,
and an SI range in clarity.


-- 
   Carl Stern
   NeoCAD                     carl@neocad.com
   2585 Central Ave.        
   Boulder, CO 80301          Phone: (303) 442-9121
From: bkottmann@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil (Brett Kottmann)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: GM Parts Ripoff
Date: 25 Sep 92 12:28:39 EST
Organization: Logicon Technical Services, Inc.

In article <1992Sep24.134929.1134@pegasus.com>, richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) writes:
>>Today I went to a Chevrolet dealer to buy two pieces of rubber
>>weatherstripping to go around the back doors of a 1987 Astrovan which
>>is starting to leak a little in the rain.  When the parts man told me
>>the cost, I said "I'm not paying $192 for $5 worth of rubber" and
>>walked out. Yes, that's $192 for about 15 feet of weatherstripping.
> 
> Just a side note, in the future treat all your weatherstripping with
> Silicon spray about every six months and it will last lots longer.

	Vaseline works well, too.

Brett--------------------------------------------------------------------------
	"Why the courts don't tell a husband who has been living off his wife
to go out and get a job is beyond my comprehension."--Joan Lunden
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.sport.basketball.misc
From: markn@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mark.nevar)
Subject: Home basketball equipment
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:53:53 GMT
Followup-To: poster

I am in the market for a basketball pole, backboard, and goal
combination. So far, all I have found is two main manufacturers
of this stuff: Huffy and Lifetime. Does anyone have leads for
other manufacturers ? 

My only 2 requirements are top quality and easily adjustable
height (7' to 10'). I'd like to use a rectangular acrylic (clear)
backboard. Both of the above companies make these, but only
Lifetime makes one that is adjustable AND enclosed in an 
aluminum frame. I have no clue in the quality area. Huffy seems
to be more available in discount department stores whereas
Lifetime is the line sold by Hermans Sporting Goods (a chain,
in case it is not nationwide) and some catalog stores.

So, can anyone with experience with basketball equipment  help
me out ?

Thanks,
Mark Nevar
From: sasefj@junebug.unx.sas.com (Edie Jeffreys)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: How long for refund from HUD (lump sum MIP)
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:54:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: unx.BvEEv4.HG3
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasefj@junebug.unx.sas.com


In article <5255@sumax.seattleu.edu>, smorris@sumax.seattleu.edu (Steven A. Morris) writes:
>I have just refinanced my house, and therefore paid off an FHA
>mortgage that was originated in 1986.  At that time, I paid a lump sum
>(up front) Mortgage Insurance Premium of over $3,000.  I have been
>informed that a portion of this will be refunded by H.U.D.
>
>My former mortgage company reported the payoff to H.U.D. and notified
>me by letter that it takes about 60 days to be contacted by H.U.D. to
>process the refund.  So far, I have not heard from them and it has
>been over 60 days.
>
I refinanced and closed the last week of april.  i got notification
from the old bank that they had sent info to hud about a month later.
i wrote a letter to hud about the same time saying my attorney advised
me to write and ask about the period of time it would take to get a 
refund and how much it would be.  about mid july i got a form letter 
and form which had my name address and exact refund amount printed on
it.  i had to provide some info, attach a copy of the title or deed
(i cant remember which), and sign it and get it notorized.  i sent
off that form the last couple of days in July.  i am still waiting
for the refund.  the form said that it would be up to 120 days after
they received my signed and notorized form.


-- 
Edie Jeffreys            The fact is, no matter how closely I study it
SAS Institute, Inc.      No matter how I take it apart
SAS Circle, Cary, NC     No matter how i break it down
(919)677-8000 x6946      It remains consistent.  -- Belew
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: wendysue@iat.holonet.net (Wendy S. Reynolds)
Subject: Re: Optifast
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:40:25 GMT

My guess would be that the cold feeling is not due to a slowed metabolism,
but to an overall lower amount of body fat.  

I'm currently on a medically supervised diet, I'll ask my doctor tonight
what the scoop is.

Wendy

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: Re: Damn those airlines!
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:48:29 GMT

In article <charlesv.717434303@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> charlesv@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Charles Van Duren) writes:
>No airline will fly if an unattended suitcase is on board. If you buy a ticket,
>check in, check baggage, but don't board the plane, the plane won't depart
>with your suitcase.

Want to bet?   This is certainly true  for international  flights, but
for domestic US flights  they do  no  check  whatsoever.  You can hand
your bags to the skycap at the curb and drive off into the sunset. 

					reb
From: stlucas@gdwest.gd.com (Joseph St. Lucas)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Don't use CHECKS IN THE MAIL
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:50:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.

There are a number of companies that will print checks up for you
instead of using the banks.  One of them, CHECKS IN THE MAIL, says
they'll deliver in three-four weeks.  I have used them a number of
times in the past, and had always received my new checks in about
10 days.  This time, however, it's been over four weeks, so I called
them up and found they are so backlogged that they may not even get
to my order this week (week #5), but I should get it next week
(week #6).  They didn't have the decency to even let me know they
were running late, I had to call them.  They also said that they will
stay backlogged until mid-December.
So, if you don't mind waiting forever from a company that advertizes
3-4 weeks, then takes longer (I still don't know how long), and doesn't
tell you about the delays, then use CHECKS IN THE MAIL.  They had no
problem cashing my check less than a week after I mailed it to them.
I'm down to my last two checks and the bank is charging me for a few
blank checks to tide me over since I didn't go through THEIR check
printing company. (full service bank, huh?)
There are enough companies out there doing this service that I'll use
someone else from now on.
-- 
Joe St.Lucas    stlucas@gdwest.gd.com        Standard Disclaimers Apply
General Dynamics Space Systems: our last launch ATTEMPT, Galaxy 1R, leaving
me temporarily at a loss for something witty to say in my signature.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: cvantwrp@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Cyndi Van Antwerp)
Subject: Re:  JC Penney TV's ~ 4
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:30:33 GMT

I once had a JC Penney TV.  I had it for about five years and had no
problems with it whatsoever.  However, after I sold it -- it lasted
about two months and then died.

-- 
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
					-- John Lennon

Cyndi Van Antwerp
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:17343 rec.music.classical:13699
From: shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.music.classical
Subject: mail-order classical music compilation number wanted
Date: 1 Oct 1992 23:24:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hijack.berkeley.edu

I saw an ad on late-night TV for a collection of 125 popular classical pieces 
on 5 tapes, and I'd like to get this.  Unfortunately, I don't remember the
phone number or the company.  Has anyone else seen this commercial and
remember the number?
(Disclaimer: I realize that they've probably chopped each piece to 3 minutes
to fit them all in, but that's okay with me.  Mainly I want this so I can
recognize all those songs I keep hearing.)

Ken Shirriff				shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU
From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't buy Nestle
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:08:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvEnuu.MJv
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Originator: acheng@shalom.ncsa.uiuc.edu


In article <.5@>, @ (Bob Butler) writes:
>This is very true.  Did everyone know that various groups have been making 
>ridiculous claims against Nestle Corp. since the early seventies? The truth 
>is that Nestle provides the formula to third world hospitals upon request 
>for free or little charge with the intent that the formula will be used for 
>infants who truly need it.  If this is what the hospitals used the formula 
>for, everything would be fine.  However, this is not the case - but Nestle 
>is not to blame, the hospitals are.  And if Nestle stopped giving them the
>formula, we'd see a lot more infant deaths due to malnutrition than now.
>So let's just give it a rest.  For those of you who need something to bitch
>about, get a life or find another cause - twenty years of the same old crap 
>is just too much!

Real interesting.  Now, Nestle changed from the greedy evil to the
hungery baby savior.  Maybe it is the evil hospitals and nurses are
the baby killers.  Please explain this:  Baby needs milk/formula
for at least 6 mouths before you can feed them any solid food.  How
does providing free/low cost formula for the short hospital stay
takes care the need of 6 more mouths?  Is Nestle provide those "free"
formula for all babies of all age "who truly need it"?
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Tuesday, 29 Sep 1992 08:20:41 EDT
From: <SASBOB@vm.sas.com>
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't buy Nestle
 <1992Sep26.032257.7085@mcnc.org> <1992Sep28.124922.23047@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>
 <1992Sep29.070720.12954@amd.com>

There's another issue here: status.

Years ago I was a hospital volunteer in an urban hospital.  For certain
poplulations, such as the Hispanic culture, bottle-feeding was the
preferred choice.  Mothers who breast-fed their babies were seen as
inferior.  Even with instruction by health-care workers and related printed
information, new moms refused to breast-feed their newborn babies.

It's the same in many third-world countries.  A combination of advertising
(fat, healthy babies drinking formula) and aggressive "education" by
health care workers leaves the new mother with the idea that she only
has one choice: formula.  Plus, all her friends are using it.

Formula is watered down because of lack of money.  The water is unclean
in many areas.  Babies get malnourished, sick -- and they die.

At this point, the problem is more than a company (Nestle) trying to
push product -- it's a combination of consumer perception, health care
worker motivations, and the overall economy.  After all,if people want
to formula-feed and they have the resources to do it, that's their right.
However, if people don't have the resources, and there is a viable
alternative (breast feeding), all parties involved (Nestle, health care
workers, regulatory agencies) should let moms know. Both options should
be available.

Just an opinion.


Newsgroups: misc.consumers,aus.general,alt.activism
From: dscharfe@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (David Scharfe)
Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't buy Nestle
Organization: Datapoint Corporation, San Antonio, TX
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:56:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.220225.12425@cs.su.oz.au> yar@cluster.cs.su.oz (Ray Loyzaga) writes:

[etc]

My response will follow soon.  I have some data to gather.  I will
include your comments when I follow-up for real.

Dave
From: sean@sdg.dra.com
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Cable Bill Rip-off
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:37:10 CDT
Organization: Data Research Associates, St. Louis MO

In article <1992Oct6.165315.13389@netcom.com>, strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> It's economic baloney for the broadcasters to claim they should be
> paid by the cable companies for carrying their programming. To
> the contrary, broadcasters get paid by advertisers, and what they
> get paid is a function of the number of viewers. By increasing
> the number of viewers, cable companies make it possible for
> broadcasters to charge more for advertising. Thus it is the
> broadcasters who should be paying the cable companies, and not
> vice versa.


The method by which the cable companies get to retransmit the broadcast
stations signals is economic baloney.  If I took TIME magazine and xeroxed
a few million copies and sold them to people, Time-Warner would be all
over me for copyright infringement.  Oh, sure, I'm increasing the
number of readers for the advertisements in TIME magazine, so they should
be grateful and that they can now charge more for advertising.  NOT!

But Time-Warner cable thinks it is great business to take a broadcast
stations programming and sell it to subscribers on their cable systems.
How attractive would cable be if it didn't carry the local broadcast
stations?  Do you perhaps think the cable companies are getting some economic
benefit by putting the broadcast stations signals on their cable systems.

This section of the Copyright Act is an example of lobbying by a special
interest group -- cable system operators.
-- 
Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO
Domain: sean@sdg.dra.com, Voice: (Work) +1 314-432-1100
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter)
Subject: Feedback wanted on GEICO `extended warranty' plan...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 20:00:40 GMT


Anyone had any experience with the GEICO Mechanical Breakdown
Insurance plan?

I have a `92 Mazda Protege that GEICO will cover for $359 for
a 7 year/75,000 mile period.  The Protege comes with a 36/50
warranty.

The GEICO plan has a $25 deductible, covers more than 150 parts
including areas such as engine, tranny, drive axle, steering,
suspension, a/c, brakes, elec, fuel, and cooling...  They also
offer $25 a day car rental reimbursement when broke down, as well
as $25 tow reimbursement.

It is transferable; and GEICO states they have an A+ rating from
AM BEST.  The plan seems to be pretty inclusive, but would like
any feedback as to GEICO, or what to look for in such plans, etc.

Thanks,
--
Ron Carter |   Denver | Center for the Study of Creative Intelligence
  Director | Colorado | "A ... mind stretched by a new idea can never
rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu | go back to its original dimensions."  -Holmes
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