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From: jmorris@spider.co.uk (John Morris)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:25:32 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1993Jan20.172025.14783@bradford.ac.uk> M.E.Bullivant@bradford.ac.uk (Martin Bullivant) writes:
>Peter Allott (peter@serv2.essex.ac.uk) wrote:
>: Will there be a 29 Feb 2000?
>: 
>: The cal program thinks so!
>: 
>: As it also thinks 29 Feb 4000 will exist It's clearly wrong
>: some where.
>: 
>: What is the correct rule? Do all countries agree???? 
>
>
>Yes there will be a 29th February 2000, 3000 and 4000 (any year divisible by
>1000)
>

Not 3000 - That will not be a leap year.

>Leap years occur in every year divisible by 4 EXCEPT if it's divisble by 100.
>However years divisible by 400 ARE leap years.
>
>I.E.  1600 	- Leap Year
>      1700	- Not A Leap Year
>      1800	- Not A Leap Year
>      1900	- Not A Leap Year
>      2000	- Leap Year
>
      3000  - Not a leap year (just you wait and see...)

John.


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From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Those inscrutable cigarette adverts
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:26:44 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <C1F5yu.6us@fulcrum.co.uk>, igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:
> In article <JIM.93Jan25164815@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:
>> But what about the burden on the health service while these smokers
>> live? What if budgets are overspent treating these silly people and
>> non-smokers can't get treated properly as a result?
> 
> Dying of smoking-related diseases is no more expensive than dying of
> something else.

Not sure I go along with this. Take pneumonia, example 3 months to die,
compared to a long drawn out (not always my Grandad died in 3 months) cancer
caused by smoking (my Grandad was a potter, also smoked a pipe, not heavily
though) for a year or more. Smoking costs more to treat than most things, 
worse still, it's self inflicted.

>  The duty more than pays for extra costs of treatment
> for the general ill-health caused by smoking.

I hope so, but am not sure. If it doesn't then WHACK UP the duty. Hell, whack
it up anyway. I suffered from smokers cough from DEC92 till just recently. I
do not smoke. This was a result of passive smoking of my friends in Ely. I have
stopped to going to see them very much. I see them once a week if they are
lucky now. Result, I have no cough. Try telling me passive smoking doesn't
exist.

> 
> And I wasn't being totally serious :-)

I know, but the article was great. Fully support the sentiments, if not the
reality.

> 
>> And while these smokers are busy killing themselves, what about the
>> rest of the population who have to put up with cigarette smoke, fag
>> ends and the fire risks? How much of the Fire Brigade's workload is
>> caused by dropped cigarretes?
> 
> The last part is true.  I'm slightly surprised there isn't a loading on
> house insurance for smokers.

Funny though, my life insurance (assurance?) was interested. Yes give non
smokers lower premiums than smokers for house insurance now!
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Subject: Re: Those inscrutable cigarette adverts
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:01:41 GMT

In article <JIM.93Jan25164815@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) writes:
> But what about the burden on the health service while these smokers
> live? What if budgets are overspent treating these silly people and
> non-smokers can't get treated properly as a result?

Dying of smoking-related diseases is no more expensive than dying of
something else.  The duty more than pays for extra costs of treatment
for the general ill-health caused by smoking.

And I wasn't being totally serious :-)

> And while these smokers are busy killing themselves, what about the
> rest of the population who have to put up with cigarette smoke, fag
> ends and the fire risks? How much of the Fire Brigade's workload is
> caused by dropped cigarretes?

The last part is true.  I'm slightly surprised there isn't a loading on
house insurance for smokers.

ian
From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: advertizing and ladybirds
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:08:55 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
In-reply-to: eanv20@castle.ed.ac.uk's message of 26 Jan 93 14:40:05 GMT

In article <30817@castle.ed.ac.uk> eanv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (John Woods) writes:

   Wouldn't it be nice if advertizers were to start giving credit to
   major artistic influences?  Adverts could run small bylines to the
   effect that the music was Mozart's Horn Concerto #4 etc, and the
   Ariston people could acknowledge the Bulgarian (?) animation `Tango'
   --- turning what looks like plagiarism into an obvious compliment.

Somehow I can't see the advertising agencies going along with this.
Their clients would be unimpressed to find out just how little
orginal work the ad agency has done for its fat fee.

		Jim
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: bemj1@cl.cam.ac.uk (Bernie Jones)
Subject: Re: Papa! Nicole! (was Re: Ariston music for TV Advert)
Reply-To: Bernie.Jones@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:16:03 GMT

In article <727543086.9613@minster.york.ac.uk> adh@minster.york.ac.uk (adh) writes:
>
>hypothetically,
>adh

Hey wow - have you met Ken Johnson? Made for one another... ;-)

match-makingly
Bernie
From: rap@bnr.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:50:23 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: BNR Europe Limited
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs201.bnr.co.uk

In article <SM.93Jan21152109@suns2.cel.co.uk> sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta) writes:

>However I believe that the currency symbol we use is now out of date. The
>flouncy L was OK when we had Lsd; now our pennies are abbr. p. The pound
>should be abbr. P. This gives:

>	100p = 1P

I can just see it happening ...

"That'll be one hundred and ninety-nine big pee, please Madam."
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From: ianking@nnsgs52 (Ian King)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: French cars are a rip-off
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:35:11 GMT
Reply-To: ianking@lon40.nt.com
Followup-To: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
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James Petts (pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <1k2vb0INNmq@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> Richard Porter, rap@bnr.co.uk
: writes:
: >Well buy a car that uses standard round or rectangular headlamps. I had
: to
: >get a new one for my Mini Marcos and it cost about GBP 24. The unit was
: >made by Valeo.

: Buy a car that user replaceable bulbs. A new bulb for my MX-5 cost UKL4.75

:  ===> James Petts <===

Look... I think you are getting confused here. Most modern cars use halogen
bulbs inside the headlight. Sealed beam units are (I believe) difficult to 
obtain now (the sort fitted to my Hillman IMP RIP).

My Rover headlight was cracked from top to bottom. It had been like that for
6-months. It would have *failed* the MOT without a new headlight. A new
bulb for my Honda Accord (old one blew on Monday) has just cost 6 quid. A
new headlight unit for same would cost about 120 quid.

Regards...
.........Ian

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From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Camilla-gate
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78A9E94D1020855@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 07:53:56 GMT
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:55:07 GMT

In article <JIM.93Jan25163902@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> Jim Reid,
jim@cs.strath.ac.uk writes:
>It would be reasonable
>to assume that the resources of these organisations are capable of
>breaking ANY encryption system available for public use.

Unlikely. Although it has never been proven, the RSA Public Key system 
is though to be secure using a 1024 bit modulus for the calculation. This 
view is reinforced when one considers that the NSA place restrictions on 
its use and distribution within the US. If you want more detail I can 
post a FAQ on the subject of public key cryptography. 

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From: d_smith@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Dylan Smith)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Those inscrutable cigarette adverts
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:46:05 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <7220@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk writes:

>|> This reminds me of when I went down to visit a friend at Southampton Uni.
>|> In the Student shop there they sell a brand of cigarettes called, quite
>|> simply "Death". They come in a black box with Skulls and Crossbones all
>|> 'round it, covered in messages like "Smoking kills you", "If you smoke, 
>|> give up; if not, don't start!"
>|> 
>|> Strikes me as being quite a neat product - however, I have yet to see
>|> them anywhere other than Southampton. Anyone else run across these, or
>|> know who makes 'em? (And, more to the point, why?)

They are sold in the UWE union shop. Not being a smoker, I have not
examined them.
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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: VDU - Very Deadly Units?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:14:42 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.98

bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk writes:
> Okay so we're well into Jan 93 already but does anybody know whether there
> was a new law passed/come into effect on 1/1/93 regarding VDUs; I was 
> under the impression that all VDUs now had to be fitted with anti-radiating
> devices.

Wouldn't that make it rather hard to see the screen?

If you're worried about radiation from VDUs, I suggest that you simply buy
some lucky heather from a Gypsy on Oxford Street and fix it to the front.  Or
consult your astrologer for advice.


Sceptically, mathew
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From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: French cars are a rip-off
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:15:05 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Followup-To: uk.misc
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

a piece of advice to all those people spending unreal money on car parts:

Well dummy if you had gone to a scrap cardealer, 
you could have bought the entire front end for #90.
In fact the front headlamp would have been about 1/4 the cost.

From the Smug bastard who runs a wreck!

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From: S.S.B.Glover@bradford.ac.uk (SSB GLOVER)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:55:55 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92909131@muser
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David Sheryn (dhs@is.city.ac.uk) wrote:
 
: Sounds like a good scheme; but I'd vote for uk.pubs so that us malt whisky
: drinkers get a look in as well...

Yep ... could be good. Do you know about cadenheads ;-)

Steve Glover (give me 40 people, a venue, and I'll run you a tasting)
From: andyy@visionware.co.uk (Andy Yates)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Those inscrutable cigarette adverts
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:51:28 GMT
Organization: VisionWare Ltd., Leeds, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ceri@brite.demon.co.uk (Ceri Mitchell) writes:
: In article <1993Jan15.085904.25182@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Bernie.Jones@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
: > In article <21021@acorn.co.uk> agodwin@acorn.co.uk (Adrian Godwin) writes:
:   [deleted sorry]
: > 
: > This reminds me of when I went down to visit a friend at Southampton Uni.
: > In the Student shop there they sell a brand of cigarettes called, quite
: > simply "Death". They come in a black box with Skulls and Crossbones all
: > 'round it, covered in messages like "Smoking kills you", "If you smoke, 
: > give up; if not, don't start!"
: > 
: 
: Death cigarettes also give a donation to the cancer research fund for every 
: packet sold, even more ironic ?
:

  One of my colleagues at work once returned from London with a packet of
these for me so they are available elsewhere.

  I'm glad they donate to Cancer Research; perhaps other tobacco companies
should consider this.  Or perhaps the government could pay some of the
excessive amounts of duty they accrue from idiots like myself being hooked
towards the fund. (Tongue in cheek idealism methinks).

  Message to any smokers who are considering ever smoking one of these
"Death" cigarettes:  don't.  They're incredibly strong...like a cross
between a Capstan, a Camel, a Gallois and a Marlbrough.  Yuch!

Andy 


Andy Yates, VisionWare Technical Support, 57 Cardigan Lane, Leeds LS4 2LE, UK.
    Phone: +44 532 788858  Fax: +44 532 304676  andyy@visionware.co.uk

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From: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:57:45 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <C17qus.G48@dcs.ed.ac.uk> eo@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Emma Osman) writes:
>
>Peter Allott (peter@serv2.essex.ac.uk) wrote:
>: Will there be a 29 Feb 2000?
>: 
>: The cal program thinks so!
>: 
>: As it also thinks 29 Feb 4000 will exist It's clearly wrong
>: some where.
>: 
>: What is the correct rule? Do all countries agree???? 
>
>Am I going mad, or did we have this exact same discussion
>just a couple of months ago??

I am prepared to bet #10.00, L10.00, P10.00, GBP10.00, 10 pounds, or its
equivalent in ECU, that there will be no 29 Feb 4000, on condition that if
I lose, the winner collects the prize in person on 29 Feb 4000, and not
before.  Any takers?

-- 
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Subject: Re: Telly Addicts
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:27:28 GMT

In article <30742@castle.ed.ac.uk> eanv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (John Woods) writes:
> I find this reassuring.  Whilst I might be persuaded to part from the
> [...]
> at least it means that (to some people at least) money isn't

I said this to rct and davidw.  You should know that neither of them has
a TV, and they are therefore feeling rather smug :-)

ian
From: byi071@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Tall One)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:58:51 GMT
Organization: Coventry University

In article <727971372.6716@minster.york.ac.uk> pete@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>Darren P. Ingram (dingram@dims.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>> In article <C17BKv.92G@cck.coventry.ac.uk> sek@cch.coventry.ac.uk writes:
>> 
>> !Sounds a good idea?  A student guide to the best pubs in Britain...
>> 
>> The trouble is that Coventry's city centre pubs are, on the whole, not that
>> good.... I blame the students:-))))) But the Campbell used to do good cheap
>> food.
>> 
>> D
>> 
>
>Hmmm, from my relatively limited experience of Coventry city centry pubs I'm
>inclined to blame the Luftwaffe.
>
The campbell still does do good cheap food, sufficient for it to be filled
with students at least most lunch times between around 12 and 2... There are
still other decent-ish pubs in Coventry town centre, it all depends upon
your point of view. If you're a dancing kind of a person then the D&T is 
usually a good bet. Although it does mean stretching to around about 1.60
a pint. There's also The Golden Cross another student pub for those who 
prefer a quieter night out although it seems to have become somewhat more 
popular this year..The first years seem to like the olde worlde look.. It's
another one that sells quite expensive beer though... Personally if I'm 
going for a _quiet_ night out then The Hand and Heart in far Gosford Street
(I know it's not quite the town centre but it's not far out), is quite a
nice little pub.. It also sells pretty cheap beer which is even close to the
prices in the student union.. A place not to be inhabited of an evening by
students unless you're a first year still calling the place "Bully's" and 
thinking it's hip... The biko bar aint bad though and there are occasionally
some good bands play on a Saturday night... Anyway there ya go just my humble
opinion of the pubs in Cov centre....

Marie.


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Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
From: mark@edscom.demon.co.uk (Mark Neale)
Subject: French cars are a rip-off
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
	<OKES.93Jan22135103@SunLab43.essex.ac.uk> <30662@castle.ed.ac.uk>
	<1993Jan25.095737.9157@jet.uk>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:51:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.095737.9157@jet.uk> djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson) writes:
   Incidentally, it cost SEVENTY QUID for a new headlamp for my Pug 205.  What's
   French for "rip-off" ?

The answer to this is of course - Buy British. After all this is
UK.misc. It cost me about 45 pounds for a headlight for my Nova.
Having said this, the Nova is built in Spain and GM are an American
company .....

(PS. sorry, Dave, couldn't resist).

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-- any opinion expressed above is.
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk (Richard Tomlinson)
Subject: Re: Wasted power, or is it?
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:03:51 GMT

In article <459@mx1> ar@mcdd1.uucp (Alastair Rae) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan15.103541.29368@alex.com> dave@alex.com (Dave Quinn) writes:
>> 
>> What ARE you talking about? "The power used by the devices is dissipated as 
>> heat"? Bollocks it is!
>
>Energy flows in. Energy flows out. It can't stay in the device and it
>certainly isn't going back to the national grid!

If the device were to rise against gravity, it would be storing potential
energy available for release later. So it can stay in the device.
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From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Papa! Nicole! (was Re: Ariston music for TV Advert)
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk (Lloyd Wood)
Distribution: uk
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

In article <1993Jan21.091603.11980@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Bernie.Jones@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>In article <727543086.9613@minster.york.ac.uk> adh@minster.york.ac.uk (adh) writes:
>>
>>hypothetically,
>>adh
>
>Hey wow - have you met Ken Johnson? Made for one another... ;-)
>
>match-makingly
>Bernie

But, more importantly, can we buy you some flakes?

L.
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:19:43 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <CAH.93Jan19154201@jemima.bham.ac.uk>, cah@jemima.bham.ac.uk (Ceri Hopkins) writes:
> What do you propose is discussed in such a forum?

Not really.

> Regurgitating tracts
> from The Good Beer Guide 1993 (TGBG93) seems pointless unless
> accompanied with additional information, e.g. "get there before 8.30
> if you want a seat", "music too loud", "food a bit pricey" etc..

maybe, seems a bit doubtful though.

> I'm all for the group (uk.beer would be my choice of title) if it
> provides useful information not available elsewhere. As happens with
> other groups, it does invite questions such as "I'm going to be in
> X-town this weekend, can you recommend any good pubs?". Admittedly, it
> is not always clear where exactly a pub is without an A-Z which I do
> not always buy when visiting a "smallish" town/city.
> 
> Anyone like to hammer out a fuller description of its purpose?

1) Recommend a great alcoholic product you've just tried.

2) Good venues for entertainment that have good selection of alcohol

3) Types of alcohol and discussion of their merits.
   ie; Tequila is foul! because...
       Gin is even worse than Tequila because I have no predeliction for
       drinking perfume....
       Bourbon is great because...
       etc

4) Methods of creating (professional and amateur) types of alcohol.
   ie; Tequila is created from the Pioti cactusa nd you process it thus....
       Mescal/Mezcal is a rough form of Tequila and come swith a Tequila
       caterpilla/worm and is meant to give halucinogenic effect and tastes
       even worse/better than Tequila.
   ie; I would be interested in anyone making their own cider.
       etc

5) Stupid/odd/weird/interesting behaviour when under influence of....

etc.
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 means to side with the powerful, not to be Neutral."
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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (Pete French)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Ordnance Survery map data
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:37:59 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

From article <727894180snx@algol.demon.co.uk>, by bruce@algol.demon.co.uk (Bruce Mardle):
> There's a 200 pound 1:1,000,000 digital map of the world but I haven't heard
> height data being mentioned in connection with it.

Mmmm... have you tried military suppliers ? They have digital map data of
the UK accurate to 1m height with spot heights every 100m. I have this here
for a project and I know that its lisenceable because we sold a system to
the home office containing it, and many more systems containing the data
are to be sold soon. It comes in 1 degree square tiles on 7 half inch tape
reels. I converted mine to the OS grid, filled in the blank bits to make
a 9000x13000 point grid over the British Isles which takes up about 200MB.

Putting social data on top prooved a problem - we used the Bartholomews map
data, but this is not very accurate in places - roads can be up to 100-200
meters off their actual positions on the ground. Its not really noticable
unless you start looking at the coastline where you see roads going into the
sea.

-bat.

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