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From: debbiek@navaho.cc.bellcore.com (kennedy,deborah)
Subject: Re: AMC - TADS & TANS
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:27:40 GMT

I wasn't going to tell anyone about this but since you're all
family.......
Last week after watching the Helga fall from the cliff scene
I had a dream about moving someone's coffin to Poland!  It
was during the time when the Marines were landing in Samalia
so in the dream I went to where the Marines were leaving
and asked a woman Marine if they could drop off the coffin in Poland
on the way.  This woman was Helga in a uniform.

I know Poland is not on the way to Samalia.
I think this dream had a little to do with AMC and alot to do
with the alarm clock radio news.
                                *********************
Deb                             Since I gave up hope,
                                I feel much better.
                                *********************
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From: peskin@gda.cadence.com (Marjorie Peskin)
Subject: ATWT: Kabob's Jobs
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:42:52 GMT

Nicknack was correct in saying the Kabob had a job before Patterns.  She worked
in the Wade Bookshop, which was also Lisa's first place of employment.  I 
think the history of the bookshop began with Penny (Nancy and Chris' eldest
child).  Penny was married to ? Wade, who owned the bookshop.  I think he
died, and it had something to do with Ellen (was this why Ellen was in prison`
for murder???), and Penny went on to manage the bookshop while Lisa worked `
in the back room.  When Penny moved to England, she left to bookshop in
Elizabeth's hands.  Elizabeth was Dan's (Ellen's son) wife, and she
managed the shop for a long time (again with Lisa's help) and then she
got some disease and died.  Lisa finally took over the running of the
shop when she was married to Michael Shea, and when Kim came to town to
be with Jennifer, she began to work at the bookshop as well.  

I can't remember for the life of me when the bookshop disappeared, but
Lisa started Fashions, and Kim moved along with her, and all of a sudden
there was no bookshop.  I do remember that Lisa spent the majority of her
time at the bookshop re-arranging the paperback books in one particular
wire rack.  It drove me crazy!  Its like the scarves and pins at Fashions.

Irish can probably fill in the details, as my memory has severly suffered
from placenta brain (something you can look forward to, Studmuffinette!).

Oh, I think that the Wad character was named Neil.  Is this right, or
am I just making it up?

Mum-squared

PS  That Bill Clinton email address thing does work, but its a form letter
you get back.  I wonder when they will really read the mail?

M2

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From: karen@gargoyle.uchicago.edu ()
Subject: KL: Ted Shackleford
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:07:07 GMT

I saw Ted Shackleford (sp?) on the Tonight show the other night,
and he hinted that Knots might not be cancelled after all.

He said the decision to cancel it had been made, but the ratings have been
very good (better than LA Law) and all the actors took a pay
cut.  He wants to continue, and he said "write letters"

He also said that "Val" way probably gone for good, but they didnt
find her body......

Here's to hoping...
-Karen

My boyfriend called me up at 9:30 on Thurday, so I missed half the show!  Sniff!
From: slaury@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Susan Laury)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Chrismas trees
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:13:49 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <Bz5uEJ.u2@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> pmmuggli@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (pauline muggli) writes:
>pauline "  *<|:)   "  muggli
>     ( smiley with santa hat ) 

I *love* this! What a hoot!

(And, btw, my cat had fun with the christmas lights, too -- she thought
they were an exotic snack!)

Sus.

-- 

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			--Suzanne Vega
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From: nbaym@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Baym)
Subject: ALL: More press for r.a.t.s.
Summary: R.a.t.s. to appear in Chicago Sun Times
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:50:41 GMT


Well, to keep you all posted ... 

This morning I got a call from a reporter for the Chicago Sun Times
who read the article in the New York Times and thought the soap
stuff sounded really cool. So he interviewed me for an hour and says
he is going to write a feature article about rec.arts.tv.soaps to
appear in the Sun Times. I asked him when and he said in the next
couple of weeks. Past experience suggests he probably doesn't know
when it will appear. I am going to be in and out of town so I don't
know if even I will catch it the day it comes out. If anyone gets
the Sun Times regularly and sees it, please let us all know.

Here's waiting to see how I'm misquoted this time! (I took special care
to really emphasize the diversity of occupations represented in this
group BELIEVE YOU ME!).

He asked a lot of questions about specific soap operas and the discussions
of them. So I gave him a lot of specifics on discussions we've had
recently (GH's Tiff vs. Bobbie debate and AMC's that statue would've
busted her legs discussion for instance)> Sorry to you groups I don't
follow well enough to give examples from.

Hope you enjoy this article when (if) it comes out.

Nancy

p.s. I'm just waiting for Oprah to call ;-}


-- 
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Speech Communication/U of I      to get the least for their money"    --my mom
From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Connor?
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:19:41 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron, La Habra, CA

In article <15DEC199210221271@opal.tufts.edu>, bdangelo@opal.tufts.edu (Barbara J. D'Angelo) writes:
|> I remember someone posted that Connor was leaving GH.  Was there ever
|> an explanation on the show for his leaving?  Come to think of it, we
|> haven't seen much action at the Outback lately.  With Mac busy with
|> Felicia's case and Bill and Holly tracking down the art heist thief, 
|> who's running the place?  
|> 
    If I remember correctly - on last weeks cast list - Connor (Michael
    Lynch) was still listed - it was in both SOD and SOW that he's being
    written out - you'd think if he was leaving town he'd pay Sean a visit -
    or maybe they're just doing the usual - if he disappears we won't notice
    - as far as the Outback - after all they did to redo the set you'd think
    they'd still want to use it - but then recently they've redone the
    Port Charles Hotel - so now we have to have it as the center of 
    activity along with Kelly's.

|> Speaking of missing characters, what ever happened to Guy Lewis?  Gary 
|> (Amy's boyfriend)?  I hate it when characters just "disappear" without
|> a trace, even if they're just minor characters not involved in the current
|> storylines.  I know it happens all the time but you'd think the writers
|> could offer some kind of explanation rather than just expecting everyone
|> to just forget they even existed.
|> 

   Characters have been known to disappear to the attic - never to be seen
   again.
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From: girl@slavery.EBay.Sun.COM (Mary Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: SPOILER!!!!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:57:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: slavery.ebay.sun.com



Well guess who is the first pesron to see Tad????

















Tad finds the ran away Jr today!
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From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: Re: DOOL:  Patsy Pease
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:39:19 GMT

Wow Cindy!  Thanks for posting this!   Hey, whaddya want from me?
I'm working on that tape... really, I am!  :)

In article <1992Dec16.172109.7258@den.mmc.com> snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp) writes:
>
>Yikes, I have to say it, I feel somewhat sorry for Patsy Pease.
>She has had a very difficult life thus far, and it is a true
>wonder that she has turned out as well as she is.  I think she
>is a very beautiful woman (mouth and all), and I guess I
>will miss her yet again.  


It *is* a miracle that she has come to be such a capable, talented
and caring person.  I do hope she starts using better judgement, however,
and takes some REAL time off this go around.   And yeah, I find her 
VERY beautiful too.  I liked her in that green outfit yesterday.  Green,
my favourite color.  Maybe she wore it just for me.  :)


>I find it hard to believe that TPTB would even suggest such
>a story for her after all she had been through, and it is
>even harder to believe that she would actually agree to it.


I think everyone is to blame.  Someone, anyone, should have known
better.   I wonder what will become of that TV movie now.


>Thinking about her life makes me realize how wonderful I
>had it as a child.  The things that she has gone through
>are just awful and unfathomable for someone like me who
>led a "normal" childhood.  


Same here.   It makes you just want to call mom and dad and
say "thanks!"


>Well, anyway, I wish her well, and will probably miss her.
>I liked her with Shane, I liked her with Phillip (although
>the MPD stuff was simply disgusting and very poorly done),
>and I guess I will miss her yet again, quivering lips and
>all!  :-)


My sentiments exactly!   Thanks again, Cindy.   

>Pick
>

Tim
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From: mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Who will find Tad?
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:25:30 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <8m7qVB2w161w@cdthq.UUCP> mitch@cdthq.UUCP (Mitch Harris) writes:
>zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:
>> Marisa and I had an email discussion about "Charlie's" age. She thinks
>> he is supposed to be 37ish (that is right, Marisa?), which she finds
>> ridiculous. I believe Charlie is supposed to be younger (even tho the

CAZ is right, Charlie is supposed to be younger, around 24 or so. The
reason I object to Lawford is that he's 37 *and looks it*.  There's no
way he can pass himself off for 24.

-- Marisa
From: ams1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANN M. SCHADLER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Bill, say it ain't so...
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:27:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec16.000824.16288@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.u
nc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
>Quoting Nick:
>
>> Since it was my turn to do the grocery shopping this week, I of course
>> bought one of the Soap Opera rags.
>
>I'm too embarrassed to do that. They might think I'm some kind of a freak
>or something <g>.

Mike --

    You shouldn't feel this way.  My personal opinion of guys who pick up Soap
    magazines is -- WOW -- I wish my BH would show some interest!!!  I admire
    a guy who is willing to admit (and not be ashamed of) watching soaps!!:-))
    I can't stand when THEY (the other types who won't give soaps a chance)
    put down people who enjoy watching and reading about soaps!

    Sorry to get on this kick but my BH (whose name is also Mike) is one of
    THEM!!:-((


-- 

Ann Schadler
Vice President for
Student Affairs Office
x83890
AMS1
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From: holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST)
Subject: Re: OLTL:  Fan Clubs
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:01:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.004511.28370@candle.uucp>, nuyu@candle.uucp (Christine Momjian) writes...
>LAURA HOLST (holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov) wrote:
>: Fan clubs, from SOM:
>: 
>: Elaine Princi Fan Club  (Dorian, but not for long ;)
>: c/o Scott Carson
>: 496 Hudson St. # K64
>: New York, NY  10014
>: 
>Is Elaine Princi leaving OLTL?
>-- 
>Christine Momjian --------- nuyu%candle.uucp@bts.com 

Well....., from SOM (my favorite :)

CORD RETURNS FROM THE DEAD

Two big changes are coming early next year on OLTL:
John Loprieno will return from the dead as CORD.
And Robin Strasser has left her role on the hit 
series "Coach" [?] and will revive her role as
DORIAN in February, replacing Elaine Princi.

Loprieno left OLTL last year, after his character
Cord was shot and plunged into a river while trying
to rescue his pal JAKE (Joe Lando).  Robin portrayed
Dorian from 1979 to 1987.  Before that, she played
CRISTINA KARRAS on AMC [anyone remember this?] and
RACHEL on AW.

Personally, it took me a loooong time to accept
Princi as Dorian!  I remember seeing Strasser
on that series... oh, what the heck was it...
Young Guns?  Young Riders?  Something like that.
"Hey, that's DORIAN!"

--Laura Holst
Internet:  holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov  Decnet:  XEN::HOLST
Snail Mail:  NASA/Ames Research Center  MS 219-1
             Moffett Field, CA  94035-1000
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From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Chrismas trees
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:03:36 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1992Dec10.224319.26052@athena.mit.edu>, zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:
> In article <Bz22JC.1Bx@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> slaury@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Susan Laury) writes:
> 
> Don't they usually just have the Christmas Trees on display right
> before Xmas for effect?


Speaking of "for effect", did anybody notice how fast Adam's tree got
decorated?!  He and Jr. brought that sucker in sometime in the evening, and in
PV time by the time Jr. was in bed this enormous tree was absolutely *covered*
with ornaments, tinsel, lights, etc.  You can't even see tree!  I mean, I do a
big tree and it takes me usually a couple of nights to get everything on, and I
don't put on as much stuff as I saw there.

Suppose Winifrid does the detail work...

Yo "I love Christmas too" Helmers
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From: wyatt@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David Anthony Wyatt)
Subject: Re: OLTL - What gives?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:11:31 GMT

In article <6DEC199222085141@trentu.ca> tchambers@trentu.ca (Chameleon) writes:
>Is it me or does OLTL have absolutely no stories that are interesting?
>Sure..Sarah is dead and now we can watch as Bo hunts down Sarah's killer...
>Max and Luna are in love but can't 'do it'...
>Viki is torn between (barf) Clint and (barf barf) Sloan...
>Dorian is taking Addie from Blair...
...
>Any opinions out there?  This show needs some traffic on r.a.t.s!

I started watching OLTL to follow the Billy Douglas story this summer, and I
figured as time went by I'd pick-up on some other interesting stories and become
a fan of the show.  Didn't happen!  What a yawner!  I usually fast forward the 
entire show in about 10-15 minutes, slowing down only to follow the small and
infrequent appearances of Ryan Phillippe as Bill Douglas, or watch Mrs. Douglas
weep some more.

They seem to be making an effort to keep the character in the program, without 
writing any story around him.  Are they planning something for next summer?
[Somewhere I got the impression that the actor had school (college?) to attend
and wouldn't be available to do much acting for a while.]  

---Curiously awaiting: "Billy Starts Dating" [and yawning all the while...]
-- 
---David Wyatt          
Internet:  David_Wyatt@UManitoba.CA            Continuing Education Division
Bitnet:    WYATT@UOFMCC                      University of Manitoba DOWNTOWN
                                          Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3T 2N2
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Re: B&B: A Pale Imitation of Jim's Updates
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:11:42 GMT


     As for all that...he's become such a Thorne in my side. I've stopped
Karen about his welfare. I don't see how he can Ridge the gap between
him and Macy now. His proSprectras don't look too good.
                                Cheers,
                                        --ac

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From: bjperry@base.cs.ucla.edu (Nancy Perry)
Subject: Re: AMC:  TAD Lotto -- and plea for Malibu information
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:20:55 GMT

llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald) writes:
>It was so exciting yesterday to go to the mailbox and find six, yes
>six, dollars in the mail.  Thanks to the following:
>
>Sandra Cole

   Hi Sandra!

>
>Bill Reeves
>Judi G.
>Ann Schadler
>Debbi J.(?)
>


>Nancy Perry
>	Do you computer from Huntington Beach to UCLA?  I have a good
>friend who works at UCLA and lives in Santa Monica and I go to visit
>her about once a month.  I don't think I would want to make that drive
>everyday, but UCLA is sure a great campus.
>



My husband is the one at UCLA -- he's in the PhD program (and will 
be for at least another two years).  I don't have the temperament 
for a commute like that on a daily basis -- and fortunately, he has 
only had to drive from Huntington Beach to UCLA a few days a week, 
but now he has been offered the perfect job that will complement his 
PhD research... the job is in Malibu!  So now he is faced with living 
in Huntington Beach, working in Malibu, and going to school at UCLA.  
We're trying to find him a work-around where he stays in the Malibu 
or UCLA area 1 or 2 nights a week, 


        Which leads me to my desperate plea for help:
 
        ***********************************************************
        I am looking for someone - ANYONE - who lives near the 
        Malibu area that I could contact my email or phone.  
        A friend of a friend of a CAT'S friend is a close enough
        contact.   We are looking for information on the area
        immediately surrounding Malibu, Pepperdine,  the north
        end of Santa Monica, the south end of whatever is north 
        of Malibu???  I will appreciate any and all leads,
        please email me at:

                nperry@hac2arpa.hac.com or
                bjperry@cs.ucla.edu

        A MILLION THANKS!
        ***********************************************************


Now, is it time to talk about me?  I don't have the horrible
commute -- I work in Fullerton, which is a cake walk compared
to driving the 405 in rush hour past LAX.  I just use the BH's 
account at UCLA for reading r.a.t.s. because their newsfeed is 
much better than the one I have at work (I can't wait long enough 
for the r.a.t.s. articles to reach me at work when I know they are
ready and waiting at the UCLA site!).  I love excuses to go up
to UCLA -- I think it is really fun up in Santa Monica too!
Most any excuse will send me on my way up there.... Chillers and
the Warner Bros. stores at the Beverly Center and Santa Monica Place
are my favorite hangouts!  

>Thanks again everyone.  Hope you have a great weekend.
>
>Linda Lou


Nancy Perry
nperry@hac2arpa.hac.com


P.S.  Linda Lou -- does your friend work in the Computer Science Dept.
      at UCLA?  We might know her!

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: jim@apatosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jim Curran)
Subject: Re: Y&R: Vic the Dic & Jill
Originator: jim@apatosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:02:59 GMT

My wife is telling me what to type :-)

At Jack's wedding reception for Jill at Jabot Jill had to admit that she wasn't
married in front of everybody - including John and Victor.  Afterwards John
felt sorry for Jill and went over to her hotel room and saw Victor leaving.
He put 2 and 2 together and for some still unexplained reason asked Jill to
move in with him.  She moved in today (12/15).  Didn't this happen at the same
time last year?    What did they do - recycle the script?

Kimberley Curran
From: nan@ravel.udel.edu (Nanette Reisor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Update Mon. Dec. 14
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:48:21 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Dec16.002949.17091@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
=>
=>What the heck is IOAS?
=>

It's Only A Soap. Closely related to OIAS - Only In A Soap.


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From: ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile)
Subject: ATWT:Nevins!!
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:26:47 GMT

Wow!  The "Margo rape" storyline continues to unfold SO well!!

Having Margo's decision to go public and charge Nevins' with attempted murder
bring another of Nevins' victims out of the woodwork is a great move on the
part of the writers!!  

Of course, I think that we can rest assured that Margo is going to be HIV-,
but the way that Gail's appearance and willingness to help put the guy who
infected her behind bars (& set precedent) has been presented in such a way
as to make Margo (and Jess and Tom) worry & face mortality anew has been
really affecting.  (whew...long sentence.)  

Also, the writers should be applauded for presenting an HIV+ character who
faces the worst possible circumstances: she's a single mom, works temp jobs,
has no insurance.   (Of course Margo & Tom will eventually end up with
custody of her son, I'll bet.)  

And it looks like we'll find out in the next few weeks whether or not Margo is
+ thanks to that new test. 

BTW: Did anyone notice how "small" the AIDS benefit on ATWT was this year?	Whatever happened to Hank Elliot and his lover Charles?  Were they even 
mentioned this year??  Does Hank still design for Babs??

						saint crystal
From: psr@calmasd.Prime.COM (Peggy Randalls)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: A. but not D, with SOM
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:53:54 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Dec9.231313.18206@ncsu.edu>, larettin@eos.ncsu.edu (LEIGH ANNE RETTINGER) writes:
> In article <8DEC199215443811@xenon.arc.nasa.gov> holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST) writes:
->I don't know, I'm in a posting sort of mood.  "Bare" with me now ;)

->*+*+*+*+*+*+*
->THE BOY'S TOO MODEST

->Italian stallion Antonio Saboto Jr. (JAGGER) is off to New York
->to shoot his cover for *Playgirl* magazine's April issue... 
->[...]
 
-> Oh my god, I'm gonna be first in line to buy *that* issue!
 
Okay, but you'll have to stand behind me!  :-)


- Leigh Anne Rettinger 
- Graduate Student, Computer Engineering
- North Carolina State University
> 
- larettin@eos.ncsu.edu

Peggy
psr@calmasd.prime.com or psr@calma1.prime.com