HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: imes@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes)
Subject: Re: Status of Andre Reed?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:29:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.224859.10402@leland.Stanford.EDU> paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
>Anyone out there know what's wrong with Andre Reed?  In his last two games he
>has caught 4 passes for 24 yards (2-22, and 2-2).  He's usually a huge part of
>the Bills offense.  Is he hurt?
>
>Thanks,
>Jason Gische

Yeah, he went out in the first quarter of Sunday's game against Pitt.  Can't
recall exactly what the injury was but it wasn't spur of the moment, like LT's
injury (respectful moment of silence.........and that came from a guy who 
really doesn't like the Giants) but it was building up.  I think it was an
ankle injury but don't quote me on it.

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CIS Undergraduate Student	                 "The brain doesn't need blood,
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From: cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Preview of exciting game
Keywords: Stinky Game
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:06:25 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


ER, well,

So I lied.

Pathetic's Vs. Dolts.

Pats are on quite a streak! 9 in a row!
Meanwhile the Colt's offense is doing a good impression
of the Patriots.

It's hard to predict this game. Whoever plays better defense will win.
The Dolts are definite favorites, But don't forget that in the
Pat's recent 1-15 season, they beat only the Dolts... This could be
Deja vu.

Pat's didn't compete last week, as opposed to the week before against 
the Bills. Will they compete, or perhaps win this week? Hard
to say. Largely, the success of the Pats will lie in the hands
of the only QB the Pat's have left (two QB's out due to injury).
His name? Zolak... hey, we joke about him as "Zoltar".
The guy is 6'5  220lbs... and he supposedly can run. And he
supposedly has a strong arm....

We'll see.

Prediction: Colts win 27 to 10.

No deja vu. This will be the first nail in the coffin for a 0-16 
record setting season.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Worst/Best Trades
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 11 NOV 92 11:49:57    

In article <1dr65bINNk4d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes...

>In article <1992Nov10.225542.3115@lgc.com> mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>>
>>>5, LA Rams, Todd Lyght, cb, Notre Dame,
>>
>>I haven't been following too closely, but from what I've heard he's doing
>>really well.
> 
>Maybe he's playing "well", but so is Maryland.  My point was somebody
>who is doing "significantly better" than Maryland.  If you can't find
>somebody like that, then by the original poster's standards, everybody
>in the first round of that draft is a "bust".

Not everyone in the first round was the 1st player taken.  (And not 
every team traded up to get the pick.)  You've got to have different 
standards for the #1 pick and the #28.

I certainly wouldn't say Maryland has been a bust.  It's too early for 
that.  If someone said he's been a disappointment so far I'd probably 
agree.

JGH
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Worst/Best Trades
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 12 NOV 92 09:21:19    

In article <1drpt2INN13d@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes...

>In article <1992Nov11.175348.18339@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>>
>>Not everyone in the first round was the 1st player taken.  (And not 
>>every team traded up to get the pick.)  You've got to have different 
>>standards for the #1 pick and the #28.
> 
>The 1991 draft was one in which the experts said there was no clear
>cut #1 pick, especially after The Rocket went to the CFL.  But Dallas
>acquired that pick before he did so.  Part of the attraction for that pick
>was the ability to negotiate with him.  If they could agree on a contract,
>the Cowboys would have the opportunity to keep him or field subsequent
>offers for him.  At worst, the Cowboys knew if he went north, they'd 
>have the power to negotiate with other players and pick the one they
>wanted.  This was worth a lot to Dallas, as was a player the caliber
>and character of Russell Maryland.  Somebody's got to pick first, Dallas
>just wanted to make sure it was them.

So you're claiming that the Cowboys intended to draft Ishmael when 
they traded up?  I thought the official line from the Cowboys was that 
this was not so.  And I think there were lots of Cowboys fans arguing 
the opposite point last year in r.s.f.p.

>>I certainly wouldn't say Maryland has been a bust.  It's too early for 
>>that.  If someone said he's been a disappointment so far I'd probably 
>>agree.
> 
>Well, if you think Maryland has been a disappointment then you must
>give that label to just about every other player in that first round.

Just about every other player in the 1st round?  Maybe.  Not all 
certainly.  But again, not every team traded up in that draft.  Having 
the #1 pick and getting a player that doesn't produce is a much 
bigger disappointment than having the #28 pick and getting a player 
that doesn't produce - especially if you traded up to get the #1 pick.

Maryland has lots of career left.  He may turn into a monster DL.  But 
at this point it looks like the Cowboys may have made a mistake.  ie. 
He has to get much better for this trade to look like a good move.

I hesitate to talk about good moves the Packers have made (but there 
are so few that the good ones really stand out).  Okay, so it was a 
weak draft.  You could do what the Packers did and trade down.  The 
Packers traded down with Philly.  They used the extra pick they had 
this year to get Brett Favre.  Like Maryland, it's too early to tell 
what kind of player Favre will be but he certainly has been impressive 
so far.
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles comments
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:41:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <96186@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writ
es:
>Oh come on now, you really can't blame the O line for everything.  Walker
>had what 3 or 4 100+ yard games this year???  This ain't gonna happen with
>a bad O line (yes, I know blocking isn't the same thing as pass protection
>but read on...).  Now, the next time Randall plays (if there is a next time)
>try to figure out the time it takes him to deliver the ball... pretty long,
>eh??  He just isn't a pocket type player.  He looks to dump off short passes
>to his TEs and (if they aren't open) his next instinct is to run.  I really
>can't remember him racking up monster passing yards in any game.  Additionally,
>the O line seems to do pretty well for Jimmy Mac (a prototype pocket passer).
>
>If Randall and the coaches are determined to make him a pocket passer, the
>Eagles are in for a long season...
>
>satish nair
>go giants
>
>
>
Randall needs to LOOK for his receivers.  He found Williams and Barnett in the
past, why can't he find them this year?  I'm no stat person, but Randall has
had some games where he chalked up big passing yardage.  Randalls' fragile
pysche and ego are the same size, he seems to want to do it all - including
being the leading rusher on the team.  He'd punt, too, if they'd let him (and
he can punt!)  He has to learn the meaning of the word TEAM!  He lost both
Jacksons this year; his favorite receiver to the fish and his babysitter was
cut.  If and when he grows up, he'll see his true potential.  You'd think
having Jimmy Mac as a backup would encourage him to play at the top of his
form because of the competition to be the starter;  it works the opposite for
him,  Randall seems to become a bundle of nerves with Jimmy Mac around.
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Randall's Loosing It
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:20:20 GMT

In article <96278@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>Yesterday on the local news station, the sports crew interviewed Randall and
>asked him how he felt about being benched for a week.  He started rambling on
>about how he wasn't confused, there are hurricanes and floods, the world could
>end any day so it would be best to find solace in the Bible.  What's he on??
>
>satish nair
>go giants
>
>
Randall stated that whereas he was able to lead the team and
make things happen in the past, he is now not able to perform.
He also referenced he was a team player and if takes another
QB to jump-start the team, then he is all for it. He will be
there to assist/support "Mr. Cool" Jim in anyway he can. He
did mention that perhaps God was sending him a message (Randall
beliefs in GOD) and this would be a time for growth. I.e.,
he is not on anything.
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
"I do not think that winning is the most important thing. 
I think winning is the only thing."    - Bill Veeck
From: ables@hal.com (King Ables)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys Media Attention Week
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:46:26 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.

From article <1992Nov11.174629.29422@bnr.ca>, by patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power):
> 
>     The Cowboys will be featured in Sports Illustrated this week. First
> time in quite awhile.  Also, they will be featured on HBO's Inside the
> NFL.  

Oh, NO, NOT Sports Illustrated!!!!  Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Please, tell me it *isn't* the cover.  I don't wanna lose to the Rams!!
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From: ckoontz@fozzy.UUCP (Carl H. Koontz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Koontz Computer Predictions - Week 11
Keywords: computer, picks, predictions
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:26:14 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Alcatel Network Systems, Richardson Texas, USA

Well, I should have known that as soon as I made my picks public I would have
a bad week. I was 6-8 last week bringing my yearly total to a still impressive
89-37.

Here are my picks for Week 11:

Detroit  10
Pittsburgh  9

LA Rams  27
Dallas   23

Philadelphia  3
Green Bay    38

Phoenix  30
Atlanta  51

Washington  3
Kansas City 6

Cincinnati  34
NY Jets     9

Houston    3
Minnesota 51

New England  24
Indianapolis 21

San Diego  28
Cleveland  27

Chicago    24
Tampa Bay  21

New Orleans  13
San Francisco 31

Seattle    3
LA Raiders 10

NY Giants  27
Denver      3

Buffalo    38
Miami      17

Comments welcome.

Carl
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Bears fake punt illegal
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  5 NOV 92 09:50:08    

In article <1992Nov4.182048.29882@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes...

>My impression is that the biggest problem is not so much that you fake
>the defense as that you catch the officials by surprise.

Exactly!  Case in point - the play in question.  The officials *were* 
fooled into missing the illegal procedure call.

I don't know where this 'no deceptions' rule came from but I'll bet 
back in '09 (aught nine) somebody found a rutabaga that looked like a 
football.  His team had the QB hand the rutabaga off to the fullback 
while hiding the football in his jersey.  The fullback is tackled for 
no gain by the defense.  The QB then runs a naked bootleg for a TD.

During the off season the NFLs competition committee creates the NO 
RUTABAGAS rule.  This was later expanded into the no deceptions rule.

If you don't think this is realistic consider that 2 years ago a 
pitcher in MLB threw a potato to home plate in an attempt to pick off 
a runner at 1st.  I believe he was called for a balk.

JGH
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Draft
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Nov13.182009.3172@ncsu.edu>
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:30:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.182009.3172@ncsu.edu> mcanders@eos.ncsu.edu writes:

   Pheonix, as has been noted, is the best 3-6 team in the league. When you watch
   them it is hard to find a huge weakness. Maybe a pass rusher is needed so 
   watch for Barrow(U. of Miami), Jones(FSU), or DeBose(Notre Dame).

Jones is the stud here, and he'll go first (of the lbs) if he comes out.  Any
word from FSU?

   For a sleeper pick, how about Derrick Alexander from Michigan?
   Not in the first round but maybe second or third. If he hadn't gotten injured
   in game one last year then Desmond would never have won the Heisman. Alexander
   has nearly the same talent level and they would have split the receptions.

I think they've got different talents, Derrick is taller and a better high
jumper.  I think he's going to stick around another year and try to lock up a
first round spot.  At least I hope he does. 

Bill
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	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Randall on the news
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:29:27 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

No no no no!  I am not talking about Randall's comments on ESPN.  According
to the local news, he was going on about the end of the world and about
floods and hurricanes.  Anyone else in Philly catch this?? Joe Dakes???
(PS, yes Joe you are right, Randall did have a 400+ yard game against
Chicago).

satish nair
go giants
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Subject: Re: in defense of Lin Elliott
Reply-To: drhall1@PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:31:14 GMT
Keywords: Cowboys

In article <lfj5l3INN9an@earth.cs.utexas.edu> joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just) writes:
>
>Lin Elliott is not as bad as everyone says he is, IMHO.
>He is the classic example of a power kicker who lacks accuracy -- the exact
>opposite of Ken Willis.
>On Sunday, vs. the Eagles, Elliott missed two makeable attempts, but notice that
>neither attempt was short; both were wide.  He did convert two attempts,
>including a 48-yarder.  Earlier in the year, he converted a 51-yarder.
>Still, 2 out of 4, while not good, is still OK.
>
>One important aspect of his game that many people overlook is his kickoffs.
>In the Eagles game, I believe all 5 of his kickoffs were touchbacks.  It
>doesn't show up in the stats that he may have prevented Sikahema from making
>several long kickoff returns.
>
>It is true that the Cowboys haven't won or lost any games on an Elliott
>field goal attempt.  If the Superbowl came down to a last second field
>goal attempt, like Norwood's when Buffallo lost to the Giants, would you
>rather have Elliott or Willis try the kick?  If it was a 47-yard attempt,
>like Norwood's, I would probably rather have Elliott.

I follow your argument, but I still prefer the bottom line. I'll take the 
accurate kicker. He'll be more likely to get you in a position where it counts.

As for Elliott, there are two things he needs. Either a better attitude 
(concentration or self-esteem) or practice, practice, practice until he makes
more of his kicks.
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 16:21:38 EST
From: Nathan Owen <32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packer Info

Here is an interesting Packer fact:  The Packers lead the NFC in
time of possesion with 32:54.  I think that bodes well to the system
Holmgrem has installed.  That 32:54 is especially impressive considering
the Packers have fumbled 27 times and lost 14 of them.  Overall the Packers
are last in the NFC in turnover ration with a -7.  Given those stats and the
fact that you have a quarterback starting his first year you would think the
Packers would be near the bottom of time of possession category.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: James Peters <peters@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: female triathlete
Originator: peters@mikey.convex.com
Reply-To: peters@convex.COM (James Peters)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 21:59:36 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <js2011-071192010025@m248-103.bgsu.edu> js2011 (jon sirkin) writes:
>In article <92311.141347C31995EC@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, elana <C31995EC@WUVMD>
>wrote:
>> 
>> To whomever sent that post about having an email buddy who's also into
>> triathlons - well, your address isn't "valid", so I couldn't personally
>> email you.  I have been doing mini-triathlons for about a year.  I originally
>> got into cycling, but now I have "extended my horizons".  I'm no super-
>> studette or anything - just a collegiate who makes her goal merely to
>> finish each one (of course, I have a goal time in mind!).  If you are super
>> competitive, then maybe I'm not the buddy you're looking for.  In this case,
>> Suzanne Roat (who has also posted) is for you.  She is a goddess!  :)
>> She is the ideal female athlete!  But, if you're in it more for the fun
>> (and scenery), then I'd love to hear from ya.
>> Good luck with your future triathlons!
>> 
>> --Elana Cooper (C31995EC@WUVMD)
>Dear Elana,
> I tried writing you back but your email doesn't work either
>here my email is andy.bgsu.edu  my name is js2011 ok or call
>(419) 372-4677
>a new friend,
>jon sirkin

%finger js2011@andy.bgsu.edu
[andy.bgsu.edu]

Login name: js2011                      In real life: Jonathan Sirkin
Directory: /home/uchap/pop              Shell: /usr/local/bin/popmenu
Never logged in.
No Plan.

so email to js2011@andy.bgsu.edu should make its way to mr sirkin.

regards,
james, peters@convex.com
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Fri, 06 Nov 92 14:14:04 CST
From:         elana <C31995EC@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:         female triathlete
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.triathlon

To whomever sent that post about having an email buddy who's also into
triathlons - well, your address isn't "valid", so I couldn't personally
email you.  I have been doing mini-triathlons for about a year.  I originally
got into cycling, but now I have "extended my horizons".  I'm no super-
studette or anything - just a collegiate who makes her goal merely to
finish each one (of course, I have a goal time in mind!).  If you are super
competitive, then maybe I'm not the buddy you're looking for.  In this case,
Suzanne Roat (who has also posted) is for you.  She is a goddess!  :)
She is the ideal female athlete!  But, if you're in it more for the fun
(and scenery), then I'd love to hear from ya.
Good luck with your future triathlons!

--Elana Cooper (C31995EC@WUVMD)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: garyth@sun.ac.za (Garyth Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Tri clubs near Reading, England
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:09:52 GMT
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Yo nettrigeeks!


Subject line says it all.  Can someone please tell me if there are any
triathlon clubs/groups/gathering points in or around Reading, England, UK.

I'm gonna be in the area from December sooo ..... Please help if you can.

Much appreciated.
garyth
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: "Guenther Augustin" <UKH8@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Heart Monitors
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:52:45 GMT



> Does anybody know some good heart monitor workouts or some good books that
>
> help you maximize the use of your heart monitor.....I have been training
>
> for a couple years and need some assistance with using the heart monitor other
>
> just staying in my target heart Zone
>
> Thanks..........May the force be with you!!!
>
> ma168faf@sdcc16.ucsd.edu

After all: heart monitors. I've got no experience with them, but I've
recently seen some offers that seemed rather cheap to me
(70% of the original price for a device that might be a few month
old). May it be that they simple don't serve the purpose, are they
difficult to use correctly (so that people might get easily fed up
with it), or are there serious reasons to buy a absolutely new one
instead of a slightly used one ?
Thanks for any remark on this ...

   auge

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From: benko@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (David Benko)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: For Elana! /Top Secret/
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:47:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Originator: benko@granite


Dear Elana!
Sorry to disturb you, but I've read your letter /although it wasn't written to me/.
I've just subscribe the triathlon newsgroup, and I'd be happy to have sometimes
a 'chat' with a female triathlete, like you.
Well, I'm not a proficient triathlete, either. I accomplished my first triathlon
last summer. /My distance is the quarter of the ironman triathlon./
I hope you didn't get hundreds of letters, and you can answer me.
  By:  David

P.S.: I had a problem with your E-mail, that's why I write in this way. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca (Scott Schelter u)
Subject: VO2 MAX - Can it be used in planning training?
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:27:04 GMT

          I have this nagging question in my mind. I'm wondering what
exactly VO2 max is. My understanding is that it is maximal oxygen
consumption before the body starts to work anaerobically. Anyone
with a deeper physiological explanation/ clarifying information
please post. 

          After getting that little matter cleared, I have a few
followup questions. A little background first: I ercently was a 
subject here in my University's phys ed dept. about how much effect
(if any) consuming carbohydrate **immediately** after exercise
will have on recovery rate. (If you want the details on this, or
the results, please correspond via Email) Part of this test involved
finding VO2 max for each participant. This was a strictly controlled
test monitorred by computer and analyzed by computer. The bottom line
is that I now know with about +/- 0.5% my VO2 max. As I have heard
many different exercise physiologists referring to max VO2 in
planning training programs, I am wondering exactly how they use this
value. Before, I never really listened because I did not know and had
no way of finding a value for VO2 max.

           So, verbage finished, what is VO2 max good for?

                 SCOTT SCHELTER
                 sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca

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