HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I get LIGHTNING on my SupraFAX?
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:38:22 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Distribution: comp
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert) writes:

>blyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>>been able to get approx. 100k per second using Jr-Comm 1.2, a 19200 connect
>>setting, and Ymodem-G protocal. Can anyone reccomend anything else I can
>>do to get the fastest throughput I can? Would connecting at 38400 help?
>>connecting at 57600 to get the maximum connection. Is this okay?

>The best setup is using Zmodem and RTS/CTS and 57600 baud (locked)
>You can use the high baudrate on a normal machine with the BaudBandit.device,
>which is shareware. The RTS/CTS requires a 7-wire cable (as a minimum) and
>will improve throughput because of the hardware handshaking, it will also
>ensure that no data is lost.

  Actually, if you can do YMODEM-g, you're going to get a bit better throughput
than with ZMODEM.

  Also, 57.6k is not the be-all, end-all, especially if most of your transfers
involve already compressed files.  For text, yep, 57.6k will do quite well,
but no comm program out there for the Amiga is going to be able to push any
kind of text display at anything much over 2,000cps.  So what good is it?

  19.2k or 38.4k is more than sufficient and gives a larger window for the
system to respond to serial input interrupts, especially when you're doing
something else besides file transfers.

  One man's opinion...

  -jack-
From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: sz problem
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:54:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

211 cps at 2400 baud isn't all that bad, depending on whether your modem does
compression. If not, 230 cps is about as good as it gets, so 211 is 10% below
the max. VLT can do the 230 cps no problem, so the limitation must be elsewhere
but still, why worry about 10%.

         Willy.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: ged@phantom.cs.hut.fi (Camillo S{rs)
Subject: Re: How do I get LIGHTNING on my SupraFAX?
Reply-To: Camillo.Sars@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:27:01 GMT

In <3454@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:

>  Actually, if you can do YMODEM-g, you're going to get a bit better throughput
>than with ZMODEM.

Not worth it. There ARE sources of errors that aren't covered by the
error correction, and if you use YMODEM-g you lose the file if
anything goes wrong. Zmodem is a stream protocol with very little
overhead, and has saved med from many nasty situations. Picture this:
I was transferring a 1.2MB file, and played around a little during
transfer. When 1.1MB already had been transferred, I crashed the
computer. With Ymodem-g I would have had to start from 0, now I could
resume download.

>  19.2k or 38.4k is more than sufficient and gives a larger window for the
>system to respond to serial input interrupts, especially when you're doing
>something else besides file transfers.

In that, you are correct. Very few Amigas will be able to handle
speeds over 19.2k.

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Department of Computer Science    \\ //   will achieve the improbable.
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From: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Ethernet networking?
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:02:05 GMT
Reply-To: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance)
Organization: Commodore, Systems Assurance, Amiga Systems Section

In article <1992Jul20.193800.7697@unixg.ubc.ca> ewong@ucs.ubc.ca (Eldon Wong) writes:
>have ethernet cards in them.  What I want/need to do is to hook up the two
>machines so that I can access (nfs mount?) the stuff on the 2000.  Specifically
>what I want to do is to be able to do something on the 3000, transfer the file
>to the 2000 and then (get ready for it), run the BB software as if I am sitting
>at the 2000.  The reason that I want to do this is that I have a laser printer
>connected to the 2000, but is only accessible through the BB.  The printer is
>an old IBM printer that is connected to an adapter in one of the PC slots.
>
>Is there any software that will allow me to do this?  At the very least, I 
>would be happy to be able to share a common drive.  I know there is software to
>do this over a serial connection, but how about over an ethernet connection.  I
>have the C= software, but there is no server components to it, just client. One

The AS225 release included ftpd and rshd.  These are SERVERS!  Either will
allow you to transfer files from one machine to another.  I think that it may
have even come with a script to do printing to a remote machine that you could
modify to make your printing automatic (you could write such a script easily
enough anyway).



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From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: FCC considering "modem fees" again
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:38:11 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <3417@faatcrl.UUCP>, jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
> 
> >concerning CI$'s fees, how does anyone afford it? $12/hour for
> >(yawn) 1200/2400 access. A whopping $22/hour for normal (v32)
> >access.
> 
> >Assuming you do little else but get email, that's probably 
> >4 hours a month. 
> 
>   Update your database, CIS has had a montly flat rate for basic services
> for quite awhile now.

Unfortunately, the basic services excludes the forums.

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: tommyi@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Tommy The King)
Subject: Re: What is the best BBS?
Reply-To: tommyi@minsk.docs.uu.se 
Organization: DVL, Uppsala University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:15:08 GMT

hribnak@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Jim Hribnak) writes:

>HAH  A life time to config?  yer funny!   You users must be stupid if they cant
>understand CNet.  The users here LOVE CNet, I help run a 10 Line CNet BBS

I personally HATE using C-Net (as a user)!!  Xenolink, Starnet, DLG,
AmiExpress and ALL others are A LOT more easy to use!  The info that
CNet takes YEARS to config did I get from the Swedish importer of
CNet and he also said that most of his users didn't understand a thing
from CNets default config!  I haven't met any user that loves CNet
yet and I doubt I ever will...


>system, and they all think it kicks on anything, and they are all used to
>Galacicomm, and a few of these other IBM multilined bbs software packages, they
>say CNet rules over them.. most have been on DLG, Skyline, and Xeno, and they
>hate them packages..  One sysop started with CNet, went to Xeno, and back, one
>sysop here runs DLG (3 lines) and he is lucky if he gets 30 calls a day!
>sometimes only 10 calls for a 24 hour period, because the software sucks!  But
>to each his own I guess!

Wow!! Sum impressive facts about CNet!!  I use Xenolink and wouldn't dream
of changing to something other (ESPECIALLY NOT CNET!!)  What CNet needs
is a complete rewrite or to be released as Public Domain!!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: england@milton.u.washington.edu (England)
Subject: BaudBandit.device
Summary: Where???
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:04:55 GMT

I've read a few references to version 1.2 of the BaudBandit.device
but can only find version 1.1 via FTP.

Could someone please let me know where I can get version 1.2 (if it exists)
or UUencode it and Email it to me??


Thanks!


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: peterk@foetus.syd.sgi.oz.au (Peter Kerney)
Subject: IBM Protocol Converter
Reply-To: peterk@foetus (Peter Kerney)
Organization: Silcon Graphics, Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 03:42:59 GMT

I want to dialup an IBM and need an emulator to do this.
Any ideas anyone ???

PeterK.
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From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: fast modems!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:47:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

VLT has no problem downloading at 9600 bps or even 19.2kbps on a vanilla
A2000. When downloading to a ram disk, you may find that throughput is
actually better when you decrease the zmodem buffer size from the default
of 16kbyte to just 1 or 2k. Play around.... 8^)

       Willy.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert)
Subject: Re: SupraFAXmodem 14.4 question - BUGS??
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 20:16:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet) writes:

>In article <r3kx9kd@rpi.edu> schroj2@aix.rpi.edu (John Spence Schroder) writes:

>	* Supra has great problems with heating

Incorrect, you know and I know it, its hot but only naturally hot as they
use the box as a heat sink, so stop slandering Jesper, NOW!

>	* Supra has problems with the chipset (they even claimed, that
>	  Rockwell has a faulty chipset -- at the CeBit show earlier this
>	  year, so now they are low priority when it comes to new
>	  chipsets).  They even modified it to get the modem to work!

Well, you see, GPFax doesn't work very good with your modem does it? And GPFax
uses standard commands, right? So maybe there is a problem with the Class 2
commands? Enough bitching, just cool it.

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From: richardc@vogue.adsp.sub.org (Richard Carde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GPFax vs. Final Copy
Date: 25 Jul 92 22:55:43 GMT
Organization: Amiga Developer (GPSoftware ACM093)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Jul20.224945.19276@tronsbox.xei.com> dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan) writes:

> 	As for my problem, I had it write to a floppy for the next try.  It
> generated the fax with a few errors in it, and crashed the machine -- I had
> to cycle the power to reboot.
> 
> 	Two people have written to me saying that they've gotten it to work,
> but they both said they were using WB 2.04.  I'm still slumming down at 1.3.
> For what it's worth, I'm using GPFax 2.01S and Final Copy 1.3 rev2.

All we can say is WE ARE WORKING ON IT...
 
> dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com   ...uunet!tronsbox!dfrancis     GEnie: D.HEFFERNAN1

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mexc0091@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Virtually Here)
Subject: Re: BaudBandit.device
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:08:19 GMT

jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey) writes:

>You have mentioned the BaudBandit.device to provide much better performance. I
>downloaded my copy of it from the wuarchives.  I tried using BaudBandit.device
>on VLT, JrComm102, and on ATalk3.  As soon as the system tried to change over
>to the new device, it would crash hopelessly with a Guru#4 (Illegal Instruct.).

Yep, the device is not perfect.  I have V1.2 of the device, and VLT still
refuses to use it, giveing me the "Unable to open device" error.  NComm loves
it however, and it does provide lots more CPU for other tasks.  A stock 68000
can transfer @ 57600 and have plenty of cpu left over.

Too bad I can't get VLT to use it...maybe in V1.3....

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From: Kevin_Vahey@amicol.UUCP (Kevin Vahey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: feed in boston
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:14:02 GMT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS


   I have been trying to obtain a usenet feed in the Boston area with no
sucess....
   I am willing to use the Dillion program or gated thru Fido...

   Can anyone offer help?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.991
From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:24:14 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
	<1992Jul20.220100.22197@afterlife.ncsc.mil>

kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.044951.8006@afterlife.ncsc.mil> bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams) writes:
>> In response to: 
>> >Article 5247 (46 more) in comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:
>> >From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
>> >  When you buy a PC card, you are getting just that - a CARD.  When you buy an
>> >Amiga serial device solution, you get a serial board AND a driver.

>> Yes, that is true. BUT I think you jumped off the dock, over the boat, and into
>> the water on the other side. The nice thing about PC's is that they DON'T NEED
>> EXTRA SOFTWARE!!!! It is all supported through the COM1: thru COM4: bios
>> support, plug & play, basically. It isn't quite that simple, but it isn't
>> impossible to do either. -- ie, port jumper selection, IRQ, etc.

>Come on!  The BIOS fossil drivers are NOT supporting serial comms properly.
>In fact, serial access is supported so badly, that you will HAVE TO write
>your own driver, if it is to work properly...

  Hmmm - I didn't get the origional response, but the part you quoted was
almost funny.  I guess this person hasn't clued into the fact that every
piece of hardware for a PC has to

  a) Be hardware compatable with some ancient card (In the case of
serial ports, the 8250 chip)
  b) Requires piles of stupid code inside EACH APPLICATION that wants to
use the card.

   I'm always surprised with the number of people that don't understand what
an O.S. is, and that applications should be totally hardware independant.
I like my Amiga where I can choose whater wild hardware I want, and only
have to deal with writing a driver to interface BETWEEN the
hardware and the application.   I can make a DMA serial card based on
old vic-20 motherboards(Or whatever), and instantly I can use it with 
JRComm, DLG, Welmat, whatever - Funny, it's not "Denise Compatable" like 
the silly IBM's where I'd have to make it 8250 compatable.


  P.S.  If anyone is going to try to argue my point with trying to add
in the FOSSIL (Fido/Opus/Seadog Serial Interface Layer), one only needs
to look at the specifications of the FOSSIL, and of serial.device to
realize that the serial.device is just a FOSSIL with more features, and
a more standardized interface (When compared to the rest of the O.S.)
I've programmed with both - While I wouldn't consder programming 'direct
to the hardware' on a PC and always use the FOSSIL standard, I much prefer
using the serial.device as it's considerably better done.

>     Jesper Kehlet, Compos Mentis Software Systems -- A Kind Of Magic
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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: To Jack Radigan; Regarding JR-Comm 2.0+
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:26:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Quentin_Snow@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Quentin Snow) writes:

>I would, personally, like the internals of the 2.0 jrcomm to multi-task. 
>ie. like what baud bandit does -- if you open a window or what-have-you,
>you can still open another window, and/or type in the terminal screen. 
>This is really usefull, for example, if reading a scrollback, and need to
>type something in -- this way you dont have to write it down, etc. 

Even JR-Comm v1.02 does that.  Just check your scrollback mode to
split view.

>Another good use for it is say your going to upload some files, but you
>need the file(s) name(s).  you should be able to bring up the file
>requestor, get the list, and with the requestor on, still be able to type
>in the terminal so that you dont have to write the file names down or keep
>bringing up the req.
> 

Do what I do... use a snapping program.  Just cut and paste the file
names... 8)

>-- Awaiting the 2.0 version -- impatiently.. : -- )

ditto.  8)    BTW, is Jr-Comm 2.0 WB 2.0 only?

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>==========================================================================

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin


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From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: To Jack Radigan; Regarding JR-Comm 2.0+
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:42:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.

In article <1992Jul27.182227.556588@zeus.calpoly.edu> jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey) writes:

>The Amiga computer was based on it heart-and-soul multitasking O/S.  The problem
>that many of us found was that JRC doesn't particularly like to multitask well.
>
>Our question to you is: Will the 2.0+ version of JRC multitask correctly? or
>will that be a problem that we will have to live with, or not live with JRC
>at all--a most unfortunate solution.

This is odd.  After 80+ dowloads of JRC102A, not one person has complained to me of it
locally (San Diego).  I know it multitasks like a dream on my 2500 and 3000.  However,
from paragraph (1) you seem to indicate that some, but not all, of "us" (whoever that
is :-) had problems.  Could you please expand on this?  What sort of setup were the folks
that had problems using?  What about those that weren't?  I keep sortof a JRC Help file
online on my BBS and would like to update it for those situations (kinda a FAQ file, if
you will).

We might even (wonder of wonders) find a common thread in all this and squash this 'bug'
for good :)


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From: mike@agrijag.UUCP (Mike Schiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Older modems
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:32:21 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

I have an old Bell202C type modem that I'd like to hook up to my Amiga.
This modem needs the CTS/RTS to work the way they used to before everyone
started using these lines as handshaking, that is when the modem was to
switch to transmit mode from recieve mode the RTS line would go high, and
when the CTS line also went hi the modem was ready. Oh, the 202 modem is
a half duplex 1200 modem that must be told by the computer when to transmit
and when to recieve. Anyway, does anyone know of a terminal program for the
Amiga that can work with this modem? Or one that has a mode that can be set
to work with this modem? Any help would be appreciated.
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From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Ethernet networking?
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:14:54 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance) writes:
>The AS225 release included ftpd and rshd.  These are SERVERS!  Either will
>allow you to transfer files from one machine to another.  I think that it may
>have even come with a script to do printing to a remote machine that you could
>modify to make your printing automatic (you could write such a script easily
>enough anyway).

	In order to do this, I believe you need to add the argument "servers"
to the start-inet line in your user-startup "execute >nil: start-inet servers".
That starts portmapd and inetd (which handles rshd and ftpd - see
inet:db/inetd.conf).

-- 
"Rev on the redline, you're on your own; seems like a lifetime, but soon it's
 gone..."  Foreigner
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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.