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From:  (Eric Johnson)
Subject: Re: Toad the Wet Sprocket
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, SPS
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:42:38 GMT


Yes, not only have I heard of them, but I've seen them live and have their
latest CD, titled "Fear".  Excellent album, but I can't imagine hearing
them on a classic rock station.  If you get a chance, go see them in the
next month or so.  I know they're playing Philadelphia tonight, so they
should be in your area sometime soon.  The reason I know this and highly
recommend that you go is that a band called the Gin Blossoms, from Tempe,
AZ, where I live, is opening for them.  Their first full-length CD just
came out, also a good album.  

Toad has (at least) two other albums out, I don't recall the names of them,
but they're all available on CD from Epic I believe.  The main reason I
first heard them was because they opened for Chris Whitley earlier this 
year, actually more of a double billing...  So, hope that may have answered
your question (and then some).  C-ya

Eric Johnson



In article <1992Aug18.175431.18655@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay) writes:
> 
> There is a group by the name of Toad the Wet Sprocket that has been playing 
> on a classic rock station 95.1 Rockit here in Rochester, NY.
> 
> Does anyone know what albums they've put out???
> 
> Pete
> -- 
> Peter J. Boulay --17 Split Rock Road-Pittsford, NY 14534-The ToonAddict!
> Email should be sent only to PJB4288@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
> Disclaimer: You don't like what I'm writing? Oh well.
> "Well shut my mouth wide open!"- Tiny Toons HISMV
> 
> 
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From: mjjj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: "Time" is NOT by Wrathchild America
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:42:09 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

In article <l8juq7INNe8b@earth.cs.utexas.edu>,
eric@cs.utexas.edu (Eric Thomas Brown) writes: 
> In article <BswAzp.Hno@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mdmelvin@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Tyrant) writes:
> 

MAJOR band correction below!

 
> 
> P.S.  Ashwin, here's a special .sig just to piss you off (since you've
>       succeeded in pissing me off ever since this whole debacle started.
> 
>       "And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking,
>        Racing around to come up behind you again.
>        The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
>        Shorter of breath and one day closer to death."
> 				
> 				"Time"
> 				by Wrathchild America
> 				from "Climbin' The Walls"

NO NO NO NO NO!!!  "Time" was written by Pink Floyd, and appears on the album
"Dark Side Of The Moon"  (The one with the triangular prism on it, for all you
non-Floyd fans).  Wrathchild America must have covered it.  I'd be interested
in hearing their version.  Anyway, I'm sure if you look at the liner notes for
the album, you'll probably (I hope you will) find something like all songs
written by Wrathchild America (or something) except for "Time," written by
Mason, Waters, Wright, Gilmour.  

Not a flame, just a hyper correction

Malevor


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From: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk) (M i c h a e l ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Mott The Hoople box set?
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:24:55 GMT
Reply-To: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk
Organization: Magic Michael's Mushroom Factory.

In article <1992Aug14.185434.9010@dvorak.amd.com>, lrusk@mozart.amd.com (Lee Rusk) writes:
|> I remember reading, in Rolling Stone, that Ian Hunter
|> was helping put togeter a Mott The Hoople box set
|> that was to be released in xmas of 91.  Since then
|> no box set has been released nor have I heard any
|> other info.  Has anyone heard or read what the
|> status of that project is.  Info greatly appreciated.


ohhhh,,,,, I haven't heard of these (Mott, not the Stones :-) for years....
anybody got anymore info? [or, UK readers, anybody got any spare time to tape some
stuff for me?]

Michael's Machanical Mutterings.
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From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Bowies _Ziggy Stardust_
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:38:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington

hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Scott Hannon; PHYS (GRAD)) writes:

>Has anyone seen the re-issue of David Bowies' _Ziggy Stardust (the motion
>picture soundtrack)_. I looked at the local Tower this weekend, and of
>course they didn't have it. In particular, I'd be interested in hear if
>there are any bonus tracks, and if so what they are.  

yes, i've got a copy of my own.  there are no bonus tracks, but the double
LP album fits onto one cd.  the design is unusual like the _Scary_Monsters_
cd, which has a transparent greenish jewelbox with the standard Sound + Vision
photo (Bowie gripping the guitar neck) underneath where the cd rests.  it's
kinda cool.

>-- 
>Scott Hannon, Mon Aug 17 1992 (hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu)

						-- dave


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From: kuo@acuson.com (Ray Kuo)
Subject: Chili Peppers  was Re: Lollapalooza Pittsburgh
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:09:21 GMT

mk46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew E. Kowalczyk) writes:

>BTW, I really enjoyed RHCP and I want to buy another album of theirs. I
>currently have Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but I am limited in the funds that
>I have therefore I can't buy all their discs. I want to get the best one
>they have, so does anyone have any recommendations?

BSSM
  A great album, their most diverse as far as musical styles
  Is it just me, or is "Naked in the Rain" a totally awesome song?

Mother's Milk
  More of a "harder" sound than the others, great tunes, very
  spazz-tic, especially "Subway to Venus"

Uplift Mofo Party Plan
  Yet another great album!  this one's also pretty diverse, with
  high energy songs like "Me and My Friends" to the mellow, cosmic
  "Behind the Sun"

Freaky Styley
  Pretty good.  Though if I had to choose my least favorite, this
  would be it.  Has the most funk, and is less "loud" than the others.
  Favorite songs: "Nevermind" and "Blackeyed Blonde"

Red Hot Chili Peppers (self-titled)
  Yes, another great album.  Other than "Mommy, where's Daddy" that is.
  Some really ingenious rhythm and melodies in "Get up and Jump" and
  "Police Helicopter"


Damn! I would say, get them all!

Ray
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Song stuck in my head
Summary: Richard Marx!
Keywords: Right Here Waiting for You
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:31:41 GMT


I have answered my own question.  This morning I come in to check
mail, and news, and suddenly wham!  I realized it was Richard Marx
that sings this song.

Isn't it frustrating to have a song stuck in your head, but not
immediately remember who sings it?  This must be old age, right?
I just turned 30 in July.  I wonder what goes next...

Sorry for bothering you!

margaret@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: djd7889@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Doug J. Deutsch)
Subject: Re: Best Drummer????
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Distribution: alt
Date: 13 Aug 1992 08:10 EST  

In article <92225.22561232GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes...
>I vote for the dude from SEPULTURA, dont even know
>his name, or own any of the records, just think
>he is great.

Oooh, good choice.  I don't know his name either, but my roommate owns a copy
of _Arise_, which is quite awesome.

DJD
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>                   Doc
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: rpb@starr.colorado.edu (Robert Baptist)
Subject: Re: James Hetfield injured
Organization: NOAA Climate Research Division
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:49:23 GMT

In article <Aug12.164557.40481@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kabadkar@CS.ColoState.EDU (ashwin kabadkar) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.113628.9602@uvm.edu> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:

>
>>	Like I said, I don't defend the rioters, but I think I can understand
>>their frustrated state of mind.  
> 
> Exactly. I never said that they were right in rioting, just that they cannot
> be blamed.
>

Ashwin:  Way to take a stand buddy... You hide behind a  
facade by saying "...I never said they were right in rioting..." and then
turning around in the same breath in saying "...they cannot be blamed."

    Well, if you don't think they were right in rioting, then I guess
you think they were wrong to riot.  If you don't think they should be
blamed for it, then who should?  Should their mothers be blamed for
not raising them to be nicer human beings?  Should Axl Rose, rock star,
be blamed for kicking out of a show because he didn't feel like
going on for whatever reason?  That's a backwards ass way of thinking--
if people can't take responsibility for what they do in reaction
to events which occur around them, then who should?  Nobody held
a gun to these people telling them to riot... I'm sure there are
complex sociological, psychological and societal forces which caused these
people to destroy and vandalize parts of Olympic stadium (or maybe not--
maybe it's just "I'm pissed off and thus I'm now violent"), but that 
does not absolve anyone who participated from blame.  

  It's logic like this that leads to so many problems today.  Nobody
wants to take responsibility for any of the shit that they create
around themselves.  I guess it just feels better to blame someone else,
eh Ashwin?

>
> Ashwin
>

   - Robert
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 22:56:12 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Best Drummer????
Distribution: alt

I vote for the dude from SEPULTURA, dont even know
his name, or own any of the records, just think
he is great.

                   Doc
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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: GNR/METALLICA DEBACLE IN MONTREAL
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:05:03 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <92226.09353732GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> 32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:
>
>Actually you have the story pretty much totally wrong.
>Tracii Gunns chose to quit GNR to "bang some chick"
>to quote Tracii himself.  Axl told him to choose
>between this gerl and GNR and Tracii choose the girl.

  Yeah, Axl pretty much holds the band as number 1- sometimes above
the individuals themselves.  He has worked hard and sacrificed a lot
to get where they are now.

>Steven Adler was fired fornot being able to control his
>drug addiction.  Notice I didn't say he was fired for
>his drug addiction but for not being able to control
>it.

  I believe he started another band when he was booted- road crew or
something like that- but that band fell apart. 

>Now for Izzy, apparently he quit because he din't want to
>tour anymore, then Izzy issued a press statement saying
>that that wasn't true and he loved touring. and just didn't
>like having to live up to the huge success of GNR.

  ...and the responsibilities that go along with a successful band.  He
reportedly never showed up for video shoots (Izzy on the milk carton or
the tell-tale sign from the Don't Cry video sound familiar?) and he wanted
to get back to playing small clubs instead of large venues.

>                Doc Holiday

  Doug


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From: cecka@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Way Cool Jr.)
Subject: Re: Latest GNR/Metallica cancellations
Organization: Rock-N-Roll XPress
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:47:13 GMT

>
>  Last I heard they could not re-schedule at Vancouver; maybe GNR is the
>first band to be banned from an ENTIRE COUNTRY :-)
>
>  Doug
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They've already been banned from South Africa...anywhere else?

WCJr
From: censwm@cend2c10.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Groups with names of Countries, States, Cities ETC
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:38:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

>From: STEVEN.SULLIVAN@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Steven M Sullivan")
You said:

>Please, give us a clue as to what you consider *good music* is.  I think we
>*all* would like to know!

Well you asked for it!!

Ok I admit it I just wanted to see what response I got!

As to your question about what I consider *good music* is, well what I really think is that there is no such thing as good or bad music, bands, drummers, guitarists etc. The best (or worst) that could be said about any music is that its your personal favourite, or that you just don't like it.

You *might* be able to categorize drummers or guitarist by speed or some other *measure* but it is really a worthless exercise.

If you enjoy it . . . it must be good (for you)!

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring)
Subject: Re: Jim Steinman albums-do they exist?
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:00:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.175020.2007@news.columbia.edu>  
gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
> 
> There was a revamped "Bat Out Of Hell" mentioned by a couple of
> European writers on USENET at different times.  Nobody on this
> side of the ocean has heard of it; can somebody in Europe please
> tell us exactly what this is?  (Live?  Digital remaster after a
> lousy original issue?  (Happens on this side all the time; Pink
> Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" is a classic example ... third
> time got it right -- look for RE-1 on the inner rim of the disc,
> that's the one using the Nimbus digital master from the Floyd's
> home label, Harvest in the U.K.))
> 
> gld
> --
A couple of years ago (before Steinman did the Pandora's Box album) 
Meatloaf and Steinman recorded an album. As far as I know this is what
is called Bat Out Of Hell II - Back In Hell (or Back To Hell or something
similar) and has been on the upcoming releases list for some time now.
That's all I know about it. 

/Magnus Ring
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Chili Peppers
Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:31:01 GMT

Has anybody out there seen what the Red Hot Chili Peppers are like now live
with their new guitar player. I just wonder how does he compare to the
brilliant John Fruciante and also what type of material are they playing now.
I wonder this because they are touring here (Australia) in about a month.

mark
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From:  (Eric Johnson)
Subject: Re: NEW ROGER WATERS
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, SPS
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:54:18 GMT

In article <16848A516.KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu>, KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu writes:

I also have neither seen the video or heard the song.  What do you mean, will
it be a concept album?  I can't imagine it not being that way!  I expect it
will be released on Mercury/Polygram, whatever the live Wall set was out on.

I've heard two release dates, 8/25 and 9/1.  (Not too mention 7/14 or whatever
they originally said).  Yes, Jeff Beck & Don Henley appear on it.  No, I 
haven't seen a single yet.  I expect there will be little promotion or 
support, and his tour won't sell well, and then his new record company will
drop him like Columbia/Sony did.  Sorry I sound so pessimistic, but most of
the record buying public seems to prefer the "new" Floyd.  I saw both of their
last tours, Floyd of course sold out the Ohio State football stadium and were
so-so.  Roger sold maybe half of an open-air pavilion, but the show was
phoenomenal.  I really wish they would release a video of that tour.  
Incredible visual effects.

Oh well, back to work I suppose.  Later,

Eric Johnson, Tempe AZ
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: ehrhart@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeffrey Ehrhart)
Subject: Re: Song stuck in my head
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:17:00 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: Right Here Waiting for You

In article <20407@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
|> 
|> I have this song running in my head, and the only words that are
|> coming out are:  Right Here Waiting for You.  I told my friend about
|> this, and she says it's Bryan Adams.  I don't think so.  Can anyone
|> help me?  Who sings this blasted song?  I'm going to start humming
|> Every Breath You Take just to get rid of it!

   The song is by Richard Marx.  I'm not sure of the title, but I think the
phrase in your head contains the title.   

-- 
Jeff Ehrhart
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: Re: Best Drummer????
Originator: pjb4288@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:22:47 GMT

1) Keith Moon
2) Phil Collins
3) Jeff Porcaro
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mdmelvin@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Tyrant)
Subject: Axl / Riots / All that shit
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:36:52 GMT



  Maybe you failed to see my point.  I'll try to make it clearer now that it
seems everyone (including myself) has cooled down a bit.

  Axl is at the very least *different*.  I can see why people call him an
asshole.  I find people who are very *different* than myself to be
assholic (sp?).  

  However, I still don't agree with the mentality of rioting.  I still don't
agree with what someone said about not being able to be in control with
'steam coming out of your ears'.  Agreed, Axl, or someone, should have had the 
decency to come out and apologize (if it was his voice), and if he just 
didn't feel like doing the concert (or whatever other reason he might give)
then oh well.  There's not much you can do about it.  They don't have a good
track record with shows, or their fans, for that matter.  I disagree with 
the 'you deserved it' statement, but it should have been expected.

  The only thing I can suggest, if you're that pissed at him, is to stop 
being a Guns 'n' Riots fan (yes, I like that one too :).  There isn't really
anything else that you can accomplish, other than keeping money out of his 
pocket.

  Anyhow, I am still a fan (of their music, anyway) and no-one flaming me
is going to change that.



  By the way, I was just curious: Do you think Axl might have been pissed
that the Metallica set went, shall we say, awry?  Maybe he had just given
up on the rest of the show.  (I don't agree with this mentality, I think
that Duff could have sung well enough to finish off the rest of the show.
After all, he is coming out with a solo album in the near future.  Just 
a thought....)


					Peace,
					  Tyrant.
From: csp48@seq1.keele.ac.uk (J.W. Kirriemuir)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Guns and Roses
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:04:13 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

In article <1992Aug19.133543.4410@lmt.mn.org>, gnr@lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander) writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.161121.18274@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, joeh@coos.dartmouth.edu (Joseph L. Hill) writes:
> > 
> > Thats funny you say that, I shelled out 80 bucks for good GnR seats and
> > just turned down a free 5th row at u2 for tonight, guess that pale
> > imitation does something right.

More the fool you, for passing up on the opportunity of making a profit
on the whole deal.
80 bucks for Guns 'n' Pansies - Hmmm. A bit expensive, even if they do
choose to turn up and do a full set.

> > 
> No shit. I would take GNR 125th row facing backwards over front row U2.
> 

Which proves that you don't just talk from your ass, you can see out of
it as well.
From: csp48@seq1.keele.ac.uk (J.W. Kirriemuir)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Guns and Roses
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:57:59 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

In article <1992Aug13.121553.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Christopher Lee Lott -- One foot in the grave and the other slipping) writes:

...lots of GnR stuff deleted

> ..One thing for sure-- not many bands manage to get as strong of supporters or
> denouncers as GnR..

Well, U2 (of which GnR are but a pale imitation of, in some respects)
have done...
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: patterjd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeffrey D Patterson)
Subject: 8/16 Lollapolooza Pitts,PA
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:07:34 GMT


Does anyone have a set of 3 tixs for lolla in Pittsburgh on Aug 16
email me at


	patterjd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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