HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Go home, Mutluk Oguz-man (net.turkey)
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:39:28 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


Kutluk Ozguven writes:

>>      I supposedly claim that my grandfather was killing
>>      Croats in Jasenovac!  I GIVE YOU ONE WEEK TO
>[stuff deleted]

>Now you all know why Edward Wiener is commonly known as Whining Wiener
>in SCT. There he used to prove that the Central Asians would be better
>off under Soviet colonialism. Then he proved that no Armenians ever


   
      Ever noticed, Mutluk, that Russia and Byelorussia are
      democracies, while Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan are one-party
      states governed by Communists?  I have never advocated Soviet
      colonialism over Central Asia and, unlike the Turks who have
      suddenly come to realize that they have ethnic kinsmen in 
      the former USSR, I have many friends from this region and
      have visited two Central Asian republics.  I am far more
      cognizant of public opinion in these parts than you.



>killed a  single Turk or Kurd. Then when people disagreed he sent 
>e-mails to all postmasters in the world that he should be protected.
>Now he tries to prove that Bosnians are happy under Serbian invasion.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



      Why don't you go into the rug business, Kutluk.  Or, better
      yet, go sell used cars.  Lets see you show the netters where
      and when I made the aforementioned, underlined claim.


>Don't bother sending mail in opposition or support of him.  No one
>takes this chap seriously anyway.  
>Kutluk


      Oh, coming from a Turk who has spent months trying to
      disprove that his countrymen slaughtered 1.5 million
      Armenians in cold blood, who advocates independence
      for the various Muslim republics of the North Caucasus
      but denies the same right to Kurds, your insult qualifies
      as a compliment.


-- Eduard Wiener
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: follow-up to my posting on misc.jobs.*
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:59:45 GMT

usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) wrote:

+In article <2ADB541A.9164@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)  
+writes:
+> Just to tell this group I still have lots of supporters.  Bush's siCKnature
+> did not change the fact that those cards are blood cards, and those blood  
+card
+> activists are blood carders.
+> 
+> shannon
+> -------
+> 
+> From: someone at a major US university
+> To: yeh@netix.com
+> Subject: Hello!
+> 
+> Shannon,
+> 
+> I read your post in misc.jobs.offered. I have to agree wiht you on the  
+position 
+> that you took with respect to the mainland chinese green card issue. 
+> 
+> I showed the post to a professor of mine. He also agrees with it. He would be    
+interested to further discuss this issue with you. If you do not mind emailing   
+a phone number where he could get in touch with you since my professor doesn't   
+have internet or email access.
+> 
+> Thank you very much. I hope my email message is not intrusive.
+
+
+Shannon, I don't like you. However, I would still like to tell you not to give  
+your address and phone number to that professor. In fact, I was told some (if  
+not many) people (at least some people I know) are curiously using all possible  
+ways to get your address and phone number. They are definitly NOT your  
+supporters. They are the ones who might even send assassinators once they get  
+to your address. Although I don't like you, I don't agree the method of  
+assassination. I think the law will finally punish you. Sending assassinators  
+would give you too much honor.
+
+So, Shannon, don't be too happy about this. My advise is: if you are reluctant  
+to go back to China and bomb Zhong Nan Hai, go to somewhere in Montana or  
+Wyoming, change your name to avoid possible trouble. 
+
+
+Carl


 You Carl Xiao3Chou3 repeat the other Xiao3Chou3's history (i cannot remember
 that guy's name, but i remember he/she was with UCDavis, Norm Matloff's place)

 I will never assassinate anyone under any circumstance.  But, I am sure, 
 before someone assassinates me, I have the talent and technical skill to shoot
 him/her first under the lawful protection of self-defense.

 Again, don't think you are the only smart guy in the world.  If i don't have 
 the skill to protect myself, i won't go to play.  Okay?  Only those coward,
 super-narrow Chinese students need passive protection.

 If you do not trust me, do you like to have a try?

 shannon
 -------

PS:
     why do you become refugees, blood carders?
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:27849 talk.politics.china:1909
From: yndst2+@pitt.edu (Yong Duan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: 6/4 Amnesty, Qiao Shi Proposed, Jiang Zeming Opposed.
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:08:09 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Bw4GBv.792@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>
>Question: Why Jiang Zeming opposes the amnesty?
>
>Xiao Li

He is one of the guys whom the 6/4 crack down benefits most.

Y.Duan

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:28160 soc.culture.taiwan:14531
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: ROC VS. PROC
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:54:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxa.Bw8CMB.E60
Distribution: na
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <ldu1f5INNq76@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <Bw75CA.Kt1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>>>>>
......
>>
>Good point, that was left over military airport, but was still that old!
>When the airplane taking off Hong Qiao, people can see clearly that all
>the residential houses surround the airport. The airport is dead, no
>future. The maximum capacity is two runways.
>
>That was the case of Taipei Airport at Song-shan. People in Taiwan have 
>got sense to protest that airport is too close to residential area,
>people are suffering from the big noise of Boeing 747s. The airport has
>to go, or reduce the capacity.
>
>Taipei Airpost at Taoyuan was a military base too. It was designed as
>the number one in Asia in 70s. Unlike the 90s airport at Shanghai, passengers
>have to walk a long way to ckeck out or to check in; the domestic passengers
>still have to walk toward airplane.

When Hong Qiao Airport was selected, with few tourists, very limited
transportation facilities, and air travel was for few elites, it is a
reasonable choice. If your prediction is right, then the fate of Hong Qiao 
will be the same as Lung Hua Airport, which is for air force and few chops
there. With some money you can view Shanghai from them. (during holidays)

Tingli Pan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: lzheng@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (lian zheng)
Subject: Re: SURVEY -- who do you hope wins the U.S. election?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:47:40 GMT

In article <44838@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> matloff@mole.Berkeley.EDU (Norman Matloff) writes:
>
>**************************************************************************
>
>		 SURVEY   SURVEY   SURVEY   SURVEY
>
>**************************************************************************
>
>
>Please send me your answers to this survey by e-mail.  It doesn't
>matter what your status is, e.g. U.S. citizen or not; everyone's 
>opinion is solicited and welcome.  I will announce the statistical
>results after compiling them.
>
>1.  Who do you hope wins the U.S. presidential election next month?
>
>    (a)  Bill Clinton.
>    (b)  George Bush.
>    (c)  Ross Perot.
>
   Mr. Bush.


>2.  The following are summaries of comments made by the three 
>    presidential candidates in today's debate, on the question
>    of continuing Most Favored Nation (MFN) status for China. 
>    Please read them and then indicate which one you like best.
>
>    (a)  Bill Clinton:  
>    
>	 The U.S. should support the students who protested in 
>	 Tiananmen Square in 1989.  The U.S. has been too friendly 
>	 with the Chinese government, and thus has been sending
>	 both the student protestors and the Chinese officials
>	 the wrong message.  Therefore the U.S. should place some
>	 trade restrictions on trade with China if China doesn't
>	 improve its human rights record.
>
>    (b)  George Bush:
>
>	 We have to make it very clear to the Chinese government
>	 that we don't at all condone suppression of human rights.
>	 But if we were to place restrictions on trade with China, we
>	 would harm the people who are trying to bring about reforms
>	 in the direction of capitalism and economic freedom.  We
>	 would also do terrible harm to the people of Hong Kong.
>	 Therefore there should not be restrictions on trade with
>	 China.
>
>    (c)  Ross Perot:
>
>	 We have to be very careful:  On the one hand, we don't want 
>	 to give the Chinese government the impression that we condone 
>	 repression of dissent.  But on the other hand, capitalism is 
>	 thriving in large parts of China, and the country has made a 
>	 lot of progress.  The human rights issue will take care of 
>	 itself, as the quite elderly Chinese leaders die off and are 
>	 replaced by newer, more open-minded people.  China will be an
>	 extremely important consumer of U.S. export products as it
>	 grows, and we should do our best to develop economic relations
>	 with China.
>			
>    Whose stand on the MFN issue do you like best?  (Please choose only
>    one.)
>
>    (a)  Bill Clinton.
>    (b)  George Bush.
>    (c)  Ross Perot.
>

     I agree with Bush & Perot . ( I think their opinions are similar)
>3.  Please indicate your place of birth:
>
>    (a)  China (i.e. PRC).
>    (b)  Taiwan.
>    (c)  U.S.
>    (d)  Other.
>
     China (i.e. PRC)
>Again, please reply by E-MAIL, to 
>
>   matloff@heather.cs.ucdavis.edu
>
>I will announce the statistical results.
>
From: IO10399@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for friend
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:35:03 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Yu: this is maine. I got your letter last year. since then no messsage
anymore. I was wandering where are you.
a friend of mine just come to TUNS. what a small world.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wc4623@innis.yorku.ca (Ming He)
Subject: Re: China-net
Organization: York University, North York, Ontario
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:59:32 GMT

In article <cyw.718514375@class1.iastate.edu> cyw@iastate.edu () writes:

   Could someone send me the command for signing on the China-Net.
   Thank you very much in advance! 


What is China-Net?

ming
--
Ming  He
"My .sig is in bad mood...
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 10, Our National Day
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:44:16 GMT

swl@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Samuel Wai Kay LEUNG) writes:

>jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:

>>Why do Singaporeans do the same? Many of them don't think themselves as Chinese.

>Even I don't think THEY are chinese, most of them are only a sort of 
>"RUNNING DOG" who like only to speak English and pretend not understanding
>Chinese.   :(

Samuel, I am ashamed of what you posted here. Supposedly learned
person like you and yet so narrow minded making sweeping statement
not only without thinking but making a fool of yourself and Chinese
in general as well !! If you consider yourself 'so Chinese', why
adopt a name Samuel ?? Ashamed of your name 'Wai Kay' ? It may be
true that some Singaporeans idolise anything 'western' (not
necessary modern though) even to the extent of doing away with
Chinese names eg. Samuel Mark Leung, ( you are catching up I think),
but making statement like 'most of them are RUNNING DOGS ' only 
reflects your mentality !!!!

P.S. I am not a Singaporean. Any Singaporean cares to speak up ??
From: 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao)
Subject: Re: Crabs
Organization: MITRE
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:31:52 GMT

 
> The Fall is the best time for crabs. (in Shanghai) Tuya has missed XRS,
> I miss crab (Fall season only). When you open the crab shell with a big
> chunk of yellow Gao, wash it down with rice wine(huang jiu). That is the
> dream I have been having for the last few years. Red Chamber Dream has a
> vivid discription about it. In that chapter there is also some nice poes
> about chrisam(how to spell it?) 
> 
> The best way to cook crab is to steam it as a whole. Americans copied
> this way to cook their lobster. But comparing the taste of crab and lobster,
> then lobster is nothing. Another trick is to prepare the sauce.
> 
> Tingli Pan
> 
> 

1) What is "Tuya has missed XRS" means?

2) Maryland has a lot of crabs and very cheap too.  Believe it or not, most
American do not like female crabs (with yellow Gao).

3) Don't keep your secret.  Tell us how to prepare the sause.

MSWD
From: dh5m@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Donghai  Huangfu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Qin Kuai (Re: Oct 1, our National Day)
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:40:40 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
>
>****Ren2 Zi4 Song4 Hou4 Shao3 Ming2 Kuai4,
>    Wo3 Dao4 Fen2 Qian2 Kui4 Xing4 Qin2.
>
>(Since Song dynasty, people rarely name themselves "Kuai4",
> and I come to the grave of Yue4Fei1 and feel ashamed that my
> surname is "Qin2".)

I was told that the grandson of Qin2 Kuai4 was a big hero in
defending China against Yun2 (Jin1 ?). So feel less ashamed if
anyone's surname is Qin2.
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: New topic: What do you eat and how do you prepare your food?
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:58:23 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct9..@> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
>
>Please note that most American males are not taught how to cook (in school,
>or at home).  
>I know that one could save some money by cooking, and not eating out, but
>I don't want to go to that much trouble and also don't want to deal
>with the yucky mess to clean up afterwards.  
>===========================================================================
>499.99 years ago, Columbus discovered America.

The difference is some Americans can live on food like Big Mac, most
Chinese can't. It costs about the same to eat out or to cook.

--
100..00 years ago, AmIndian discovered America.
--
From: who is who
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: SELECT A TEST
Summary: TEST vs. TESTs
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:01:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewse.1992Oct8.170154.16199
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

this  net is getting more and more interest.
why  people fights each other all the time?
don't you have any other important things to do, such as
reading a book or get your project done ontime?


just kidding
From: yang@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Der-Shung Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Sue Shannon
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:17:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: m.1992Oct14.221736.30537
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

N1.JYZ@isumvs.iastate.edu (joe) writes:

>I strongly agree with the idea to sue this Shannon Yeh. He has
>passed the boundary of free speech. IFCSS should file a
>class action case against his letter and remarks. Let's show
>him the justice he deserves!

I like to know what your definition of the "boundary of free speech" is.
(Followups please focus on the issue of "free speech", not anything else.
Please don't mistake me as Yeh's supporter. Thanks.)

--
DerShung Yang    
yang@cs.uiuc.edu 
Beckman Institute
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yuechen@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (yueting chen)
Subject: Re: Fax to Mr. Bush ...
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:18:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.103307.893@unine.ch> Congzhong.Wang@info.unine.ch writes:
>In article <92286.134513WXG101@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WXG101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

                        [stuff deleted]
>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^
>  These students and their parents are Chinese people. But how many totally?
>1 million? 2 millions? China has 1.1 billion people!  How many peasants and 
>workers support a student? How much do they earn? 
>  Chinese people has NO higher gross income and are NO tax-paxers, it IS fair
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ya, you are deadly right. We Chinese people are no tax-payers. So, the money 
spent by CCP gov. is not from Chinese people. We have to thank CCP for it 
wonderful job of getting money from nowhere.

>to say these students own tuition to the CHINESE PEOPLE. 
>  Pay attention, I did NOT say "government"!

I am confused now. Why do these students own tuition to the CHINESE PEOPLE
that are NO tax-payers. Did they borrow money from the latter? Oh, I see, 
the problem is from your definition of tax-payers. Yes, Chinese people are
no tax-payers, they are slaves of profit-making of CCP. 







Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: huettenb@gmd.de (Anna Huettenbach)
Subject: Liming middle school and Tongji university
Reply-To: huettenb@gmd.de
Organization: GMD St. Augustin (FRG)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:29:58 GMT


Hi, everybody,

My name was Shi Xinwei. I am looking for early classmates from Li-Ming middle school in shanghai
(1974-1978) and from Tongji university (computer science 1978-1983 and
scientific german 1986-1988). 


If you know any of them please send me a note. I don't read the news group
often, so please send your note to my e-mail addresses instead to the group.

My e-mail addresses: huettenbach@gmd.de



Thanks in advance.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.china
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Improve your English
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:26:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


  Please stop the epidemic. Thanks.
--
  Leo WaiChung So               Internet : leoso@cs.arizona.edu
  Department of Computer Science    UUCP : uunet!arizona!leoso
  University of Arizona           Bitnet : leoso%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
  Tucson, AZ 85721, USA     Keep in Mind : "Look ahead, plan ahead, go ahead."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Lei@bnos.csd.bldrdoc.gov
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:10:54 GMT

stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) wrote:

>In article <Bvt61G.FFt@cs.psu.edu> jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu) writes:
>>>It is Qin Kuai, Kuai is a combination of wood and meeting, pronounced
>>>to be Kuai, not "Hui". Isn't it a distruction of Chinese culture?
>>>Note: I checked my dictionary which was published in mainland X years ago.
>>
>>This charactor has at least three pronounciations as I know: Hui4, Kuai4
>>and Gui4. Hui4 is a pronounciation used in Beijing Operas.

>As I know of, the Beijing opera performs in Taiwan that word is still
>pronounced to be Kuai. I just had very good Mandarin teachers, husband and
>wife both from Bei Shi Da. There is no way to read it as Hui.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's very surprising to know that a smart person like you would rather
believe some guys who were brain-washed by CCP. :-)


>In the meanwhile, I checked my dictionary which was published in mainland
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in 80s. I could only find the Hui pronouncition. So, it is the wild rule
 ^^^^^^
Never believe it. It's just a CCP propaganda.


>to read Chinese: if it has side, read side(s) as the whole word, or read
>the middle one. Yu Ben Du Ben, Mei Ben Du Chung Jian.  That is why you
>guys reading it as Hui, the side word (meeting).
>I also found the word "popular", Kuai Zi Zen Kuo, is also twisted to be
>Hui Zi Zen Kuo, in that dictionary.

>It is possible that Mao Ze Dong to be pronounced as Mao Zei(thief) Dong.:-)

In southern China, "Jiang JieShi" is pronounced as Jiang GaiSi(deserve to die).


>No wonder, I felt much difficult to understand Shi-chuan Hua: Zuo Man Tou,
>Yu Ban Tou, sounded like making Man-tou. The real one is: turn right all
>the way, turn left halt way.
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Qin Kuai (Re: Oct 1, our National Day)
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:53:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <98073@bu.edu> lix@yangtze.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>
>So far Mr. Yeh and Scott Horn owe me one lecture each,
>... Though, I am suffering some counter-lectures :-(
>
Xiaowen, tricks won't work in fund raising. :-)
>
>Well, thanks. I'll match the donation of Steve or Tuya, or Yeh, 
>
Ha, the tricks work for the one who made it. Check Jie in a
few days. FYI, many mainlanders treated me as fool when I gave
money to those kids..... Where is Chinese sincerity (gone with
Liu Sao-qi and Kung-mei )?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu
Subject: Shannon's message got through
X-Vers: University of Oregon Version dmm-02 30-Oct-90
Posted-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:02 EST
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:00:00 GMT

          Congratulations to Shannon, your message got through.
                    This is just to help you to distribute your message.

          TY

            -------------------------------------------------------------
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.offered
Subject: An open letter to the US employers
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:04:55 GMT

Dear Employers in the US:

Some thousands of Chinese nationals finally got their free grenn cards (i.e.
refugee) after they successfully sold their home country, China.  Those
refugees are of no morality, and simply are liers: they declared that they
faced danger to return to China, and I believe that everyone knows how
dangerous to travel back and forth between here and China these days.

I urge your company NOT to offer any privilege to those refugees when they
compete your comany's open position with other non-refugee candidates.  Your
cooperation will recover the damage made by those refugees, George Bush and
other US legislators.  Thank you.

Mr. Shannon T. Yeh
Irvine, California

PS: I am not a student.  I just cannot tolerate the justice raped by those
    Chinese students and the US legislators.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Where are the Japanese?
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:47:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.083516.29883@newsroom.utas.edu.au> u926009@postoffice.utas.edu.au (HAJIME YOJI) writes:
>In article <wep8wzK00VpaECLF0q@andrew.cmu.edu>, ws22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Wenjun Sun) writes:
>> 
>> This is 'netnews.soc.culture.china', why should the Japanese stir the
>> mess in this net? They have their own 'netnews.soc.culture.japan'
>
>The person who raised the topics 'Where are the Japanese' would knew that
>there is 'netnews.soc.culture.japan'.  I think the point he wanted to make 
>was that there are so many things between China and Japan which should be 
>discussed or communicated. China and Japan are, after all, part of Orient 
>and we have so many things in common.
>It might be very interesting to have inter-channels dicussion.
>The topics like "Emperor's visit to China' might be a good start. 
China and Japan have same problem with U.S. on trade issue. Both of them were
screwed.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:28061 soc.culture.taiwan:14470 soc.culture.hongkong:12656