HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Perot and the common man
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:07:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.193339.14179@alw.nih.gov> blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes:
>
>Let's steer 'em back to issues that we deal with *NOW* in our everyday
>?middle class? existance!  Only then would I be willing to say that some
>inadvertant ODC was in fact meant in the context everyone so much wishes it
>was.....

Hi Barb (got your mail :-)

Y'know, I was wonderin' about Perot- does he sit around at night
with Workingman's Dead blaring or was it a random comment? Well,
luckily for all of you, I happened to catch a little of the post
debate dialogue between the three gents (it was only carried by
the Palo Alto cable company) and found it quite enlightening:

Ross Perot: Hey man, it's true, no time to hate!

Bill Clinton: Well, I just have to agree with that.
But I think a more important question for the American
people is: what's the best version? I plan to find that
best version *high quality only* and sell it at a *reasonable
price* to everyone who wants one.

RP: Sell Dead tapes? You're gonna sell Dead tapes?

BC: No, uh...

George: Does Neil Diamond do that song?


It went on from there, Clinton pushing hard for Lewiston,
Maine 9-6-80, Perot agreeing that was killer but insisting
that the album version is definitive, and George talking for
a long time about selling Dead tapes: "I just wouldn't do
that," as he flicked his cigarette, killing thousands in
another, unimportant part of the world...

Bill

Hey let's have some fun here! No time to hate.
>
>A$Rh%&oqaf!#!hmpf (soap box collapsed) ouch!
>
>moral of the story is.....
>
>		 Don't believe every ODC you hear!
>
>--peace--
>Barb


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From: mlaurenc@world.std.com (Matt Laurence)
Subject: The 1993 PhishNet T-Shirt
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:42:17 GMT

Dear everyone:

Well, I'd like to thank ALL of you for making the first PhishNet
T-Shirt a great success - I'm seeing more and more of them
at shows all over the country, and it's wonderful! If anyone is
still interested in the first PhishNet shirt (from now on to be
called the 1992 Net Shirt), there are still 50 or so left, in 
Large and X-Large, $14 each.

But on to new things! It's creeping up on a new year, and
NET SHIRT II is almost ready to start the printing process!
The design this year has, once again, the words PHISH
and NET at the top and bottom, respectively, but that's where
the similarity ends. The image is that of a psychedelic, multi-
hued net swirling into the center, with a small version of the
Phish from last year's shirt swimming joyously in the center.
The words PHISH and NET are done in varying shades of blue
as if they were in a ripply pond, and the UseNet address will
now be on the BACK of the shirt, thanks to the comments of
many pholks who wanted a design without the text under it.
Accompanying the UseNet address on the back is a second graphic
in black and white which I will say nothing more about now -
let it be a surprise :-))

The one drawback to doing a shirt in so many colors, however, 
is that it can come in no other color than white, since the
process color inks used are translucent, and the design would
look totally different on any color shirt other than white. So
I apologize to those of you who don't want another white shirt
in their collections, but I'm still working on a solution....

Anyway, due to incredible (but slow) response to the 1992 
shirt, I was declared of questionable mental stability for
not taking advance orders. So this time, I have decided to
take advance orders and have my sanity regain its status
in the community. This year's shirt is going to cost $15.00,
since printing on the back costs more, and that includes all
shipping and such stuff. Anyway, advance orders for this
shirt can be sent to:

            Matt Laurence
            11 John Poulter Rd.
            Lexington, MA 02173

same as last year, along with size info (the most popular will 
be L and XL, but I'll get a few small, med and XXL if there is
enough interest). Orders for the last shirt can also be sent
there, and they are still $14 each. I'll keep posting updates on
the status of the shirts, but if you are interested in one, please
try to advance order - it will make life much easier on this end
(you'd be amazed how expensive it is to do shirts as colorful as
these in small runs...). So, thanks in advance for your help in
making it easier for netheads everywhere to find each other
and party appropriately!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled newsgroup.

Matt
mlaurenc@world.std.com



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From: jberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Subject: Zero ticket 4 Sale 10/14
Summary: Can't go to the show...
Keywords: ticket sale Zero
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:52:07 GMT

Due to my boss changing my travel plans, I have one ticket to the Zero 
concert at the Great American Music Hall on 10/14.  This is the first of 
three shows, and they will be taping for a live album.  I even heard that 
Dan Healey (sp?) would be doing the sound for these shows.

If you haven't heard this band yet, do so!  A friend gave me some tapes, and 
they were great!  Depending on the song, they sound like "the boyz (ODC)", 
Springsteen, Santana, early Passport (Klaus Doldinger's band), and a few 
others mixed in.  

I need to get rid of the ticket by Sunday, or let a friend of mine "miracle" 
someone at the show.  Contact me by email (jberger@novell.com) or phone [(
408) 473-8332, w, or (510) 623-0787, h].
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: ID SHOW PLEASE!!
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:57:28 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com writes:
>"John A. Trucillo"
><trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu> says:

>>I have a filler on a tape that goes...
>>Dark Star
>>She's An Artist

>Is "She's An Artist" actually the song "She Belongs to me"?  It contains that  
>line.  It seems weird that those two songs would follow one another.  Thinking
>back of times when both songs were played, the show which comes to mind is
>RFK '73.  But I'm not 100% sure if both tunes were played, much less in order. 

>Joe Doheny

"She's An Artist" might also be "Visions of Johanna", a Dylan cover the Dead
have done 2 or 3 times. Another article recently asked whether JGB had covered
the song, but I can't anwwer that one. I also can't id the show cause my
tapes are at home, but I'll look in case no deadbase reference gets posted.

The verse:
"She's got everything she needs, she's an artist, she don't look back"

At least that what it sounds like to a non Dylanologist.

Matt
These Visions of Johanna are all mngphfnresqw, bnmhytorem gppotrymn...
(Jerry had the mumbles)
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From: thomas_j@wizard.colorado.edu
Subject: JGB Tape Id needed
Organization: UMS
Date: 15 OCT 92 10:49:20 MST


Just got a JGB tape that is marked Warfield 5/92, and I was looking
for a more exact date.  

Here's the set list: (ends with "Thanks a lot, good bye", so it's 
		      probably the second set)
Shining Star
Money Honey
Bread Box
Mississippi Moon
The Maker?
Wonderful World
Midnight Moonlight 


If anybody can identify this, I'd be Grateful.

Thanks,
	JT

thomas_j@wizard.colorado.edu


P.S  The filler is simply marked 'Cap Center', with no date.  The
     songs are Row Jimmy, BTW, Reubin & Cherise, and Promised Land.  
     Again, any help would be appreciated!

P.S.S.  ***** Local Rumor ***** The Boyz have booked hotel rooms in
        Denver for Dec 1, 2, and 3, and in Tempe for Dec 5 and 6.  
        Now you know!
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From: karenr@geronimo.sps.mot.com (Karen Ramondetta)
Subject: Re: Nudity at shows
Reply-To: karenr@geronimo.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:08:31 GMT

A few summers ago at a show in Luey-ville I remember walking in the halls 
around the baseball stadium and seeing a guy in his BVD's handcuffed to a 
fold up chair surrounded by three cops.  His feet were a tappin and he was 
belting out a pretty off key Women are Smarter as loud as he could.  The cops
were looking for sympathy but none was to be found in the crowd.  Why he was
just sitting there handcuffed, Jerry only knows, but I got a good laugh out of
it.  The guy was just happy as pie to be sitting there hearing the rest of the
show. 

At the same show, a woman was being chased through the crowd by three men in
Bart Simpson tee-s and red b-ball hats (I can only assume cops...)
when she started taking her clothes off as she was running.  Maybe she thought 
that they would never be able to find the woman in the red shirt if she was 
no longer wearing a red shirt!  I guess she realized that her logic would only
work if she wasn't wearing her distinctive skirt either because that came off next.
Slowed her down enough to get caught though...

Karen
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dead-Flames Digest #294
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:41:30 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

rcbi105@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>STU_D2PETERS@vax1.acs.jmu.edu writes:
>> MATT LEARY- i THOUGHT TOU MIGHT LIKE TO know.....
>>   You ca fool some peoplr sometimes bot you can't foool all the people
>>   You ca fool some peoplr sometimes bot you can't foool all the people

>What the Hell?

Now you know...the rest of the story.

Matt
He is either claiming that Bob Marley was of partial Scottish ancestry, or
that the quote should be attributed to Robert Burns.

ODC: Didn't Robert Burns write St. Stephen/The Eleven?
From: hall@lclark.edu (Matthew Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: net.head.poll
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:11:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct15.041146.9775
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


 In response to the "real dead post" on requests for songs the boys should 
revive after their break.

How about the full length Cryptical Envelopment>Other One
Remember the "Quadlibet for Shoreline" rumors from last spring?
 maybe....
 space>
Cryptical>
Other One> 
Cryptical>
Throwin' Stones>
Lovelight

or something like that.....

I would love to hear "Passenger". I don't think they ever gave that song muchh
of a chance, and Vince could probably add something to it. The "Dead Set"
version rocks..... it would be a fun breakout.

I could go on forever about this....
 
But right now I'd be psyched to hear the songs they always play.
Maybe in Denver this December?


"Hold fast to dreams"
peace,
	Matt
.
From: kmodel@cis.rand.org (Karyn Model)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: 3 Good Ones
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:24:47 GMT
Reply-To: kmodel@cis.rand.org (Karyn Model)
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA

In article <BvtApE.976@nic.umass.edu> AAT@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (Gus Trautweiler) writes:
>3 good Scarlet/Fires
>
>2)	UVM		1983	
>

I have this tape -- what is UVM?  I thought it was UVA (Univ. of Virginia)
that I had mis-copied!

karyn

--<-@  i'm still walkin', so i'm sure that i can dance... @->--
Organization: Junior, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 00:42:26 -0400 
From: "James T. Orsega" <jo1n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Setlist for 3/11/92 NY

Can anyone help me with the above setlist?  Please email me, as I may
miss the posting on the net.  Thanks.


-TIM

Carnegie Mellon University (Pittsburgh, PA)
orsega+@cmu.edu
jo1n+@andrew.cmu.edu


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From: ERNST GUY <SCE4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: Re: Dead-Flames Digest #344
Reply-To: SCE4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:36:12 GMT

About this anarchy thing....

Doesn't the Second Law of Thermodynamics state we don't have a choice ?
From: p00123@psilink.com (Seth M. Dworken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: GDH playlists over 211
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:02:01 GMT
Organization: KC3IL, Fairless Hills PA, USA
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

I haven't seen any playlists for the Grateful Dead Hour higher than 211.
If any are available, I'd appreciate if anyone would either post them or 
email them to me.

Thanks much.  -Seth  p00123@psilink.com

ps - The Fillmore East segment on 210 was a GEM!  But then again I'm 
partial to that place, having spent much time there.  Thank you David Gans!

pps - New Noteworthy catalog arrived today.  Noticed slight changes in 
the ROEG User program, mainly a connect fee of $4.95.  If you need disks 
that is another $5, or you can copy them from a friend.  There is also a 
toll-free technical support number.  It doesn't look like any of that is 
refundable with the first purchase, as was previously the case.  At any 
rate, it's still a good deal, the software is very nice.  Any net.head 
will definitely like it.  See pg. 12 for a full-page ad for BACKSTAGE PASS
($14.75).  Cuts listed in the ad are: Hard To Handle, Fearless Groove, 
The Other One, Easy To Love You, She Belongs To Me, Infrared Roses Revisited.

Phone # is 1-800-648-7972.  Just a satisfied customer...

    "It rainbow spiral around and around, it tremble and explode!"
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Enuff flames (Re: DiamondBack mtg)
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:38:54 GMT

In article <BvrrAw.C9F@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:
>
>I love satire -- even some of the diamond jokes -- But my perspective
>is that they've gotten boring and a liitle too negative.
>
Negative? In what respect? I see most of them as parody and satire
and in essense a mirror of this group and DeadHead fans. Possibly
it hits to close to hme?


No Time To Hate:-) :-) ;-)

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From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: the so called cure all libertarian party
Organization: NY home for wayward dats
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:47:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.003415.12919@newstand.syr.edu> crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.004728.17855@udel.edu> gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo) writes:

>My point here is this: The Libetarian philosophy is great for defending
>personal property or your rights fromn Big Brother, but not much good at
>getting your streetlight repaired or your kids educated.

The Republicrat philosophy doesn't seem to be accomplishing either of
those particularly well, either.

>Here's something else:it used to be, in at least one case, the practice of
>running private fire companies. In the time of Julius Caesar the richest
>man in Rome (Crassus) also owned the fire company monopoly. His men 
>had orders to check their records to make sure that when a distress call
>came in, the house was on their list, and if not, or if the owner had
>pissed off Crassus in some way, let it burn. Privatizing fire companies?
>God help us.

I don't think they had insurance companies in those days.  I think the
Fire Departments would be better run if the insurance companies
handled it (after all, they're the ones who have to pay for the
destruction caused).

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com

Oh, and the libertarian solution to the Neil problem:

You have the right to continue posting about Neil Diamond.  I have the
right to object.  I also have the right to make, and to carry out, the
following threat:

If you don't stop posting about Neil, I'm going to use the "c" word.
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re:  500  Years of Genocide/AIM
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 23:32:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.203632.5321@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>
>ok, enuf? has anyone seen the t-shirt that has neil dressed up as 
>bart simpson, eating caviar and wearing chains. that was the cutest
>shirt of the whole tour!@!@!@!@

That was cute, agreed. But my fave was the Calvin and Hobbes shirt
with Calvin and Hobbes dancin' around a beautiful girl, with
the phrase "you know she's gonna get sweeter" on the front, and
"CAROLINE" in bold letters on the back.

Bill
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From: pmc@world.std.com (Patrick M Chase)
Subject: Re: Slipknot
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:28:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.011654.21982@udel.edu> gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo) writes:
>In article <1biaohINNeth@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel) writes:
>>Hi there!  Just posting a message to anyone in the Albany, NY 
>>area.  You should definitely check out a band called Slipknot as
>>soon as possible.  I've been to about 20 of their shows, and WOW!
>
[...]
>
>	The question I have is: when I used to work for Digital, there
>were guys on the DECHead bulliten board raving about a band called
>Slipknot that played around the Boston area.  To the best of my
>knowledge, these are not the same guys that play in the Albany area,
>but then again they may be.  I'm hoping someone can shed some light on
>this.

I've lived in both areas and seen both bands. Yes, they're different. Used to
see the Albany band alot in the early '80s... I know they've re-orged a couple
of times and a band or two has split off but I ferget any of the names.

I've only seen the Boston based band once, but I've heard alot about them.
When I saw 'em, I must say that I was amazed at their vocal capabilities.
I liked their original material the best, and was amazed at how comfortable
they seemed while performing. Like pigs in shit...   their approach is
different.

Personally.... I liked the Boston based band much better, but then again, I
haven't seen that band from Albany since 1989 or so
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re:  500  Years of Genocide/AIM
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:20:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.180818.26180@sunspot.noao.edu>,
brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.163853.8506@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
>sjeck@isi.com writes:
>> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
>>
>>Certainly Todd's point about the N.A.'s being immigrants is true.
>>It should also be pointed out that they were not exactly peacefully
>>co-existing before the European invasion.
>>
>>"400 years and still the same philosophy..."
>>
>
>So just wondering lately and haven't had time to reasearch it but
>who were the original inhabitants of the western hemisphere, were
>there any, and what caused them to vacate the hemisphere?
    actually, todd, the dead have been around a LONG time.  before
the anasazi, actually.  i believe that they originated in the
Hopewell (moundbuilding society in the general area of the
midwest) society.

    but the stealie is a very old symbol and speaks of the
inhabitants of this landmass even prior to the hopewell society ...
seems the hopewells were out one night watching the thunder, and a
lightning bolt hit one of the mounds, and somebody painted it on a
drum head, and the rest is history ... seriously, i believe that the
hopewells were here before the anasazi, but possibly just
concurrently.

    of course, getting into this discussion of who was here before
them, and before them, etc.  we'll go way past gaul and into the
dinosaurs.  which was the first dinosaur group!  Patrick and the
Dinosaurs!!

>Yes N.A's did not coexist in total peace but counting coupt(sp?)
>was not exactly a savage means of confrontation.
    yes, counting coup always struck me as a very brave act, just
touching an enemy who was still armed (one of several categories).
however, my favorite coup story is about aim, around wounded knee
II.  one of the more active participants apparently got into his
datsun and started driving at an APC and counting coup on the side
of it and that APC was so psyched, it was run off by a Datsun!!


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   these can be avoided with SPF25 :)

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>
lara
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From: "Seth M. Dworken" <p00123@psilink.com>
Subject: Noteworthy ROEG System
Organization: KC3IL, Fairless Hills PA, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:26:25 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

Someone mentioned Noteworthy's computerized ordering system.  Well, I've
been using it since it came out, and I can tell you it is *very* slick.

The $5 cost of the disks is refundable with the first purchase, so it's
a freebie.

You do everything on your PC, offline, include browse the catalog, place
orders, etc.  Then call them up and the transactions fly.  You can
download updates to the program, the catalog, send them messages, etc.

If you have a PC and are a Noteworthy fan, I recommend ROEG (remote order
entry gateway).

-Seth
From: djw@hodgkin.mc.duke.edu (David Wendt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead Ringers
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:26:34 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Last night in Durham NC, a group comprised of former members of
Kingfish, NRPS and Tom Constantin (sp?), played a small venue
for an 8.00$ cover charge.  TC looked older than Jerry on his
subdued days, but he still had his chops.  They played an acoustic
set first- I can't recall all of the tunes, but they included 
Dire Wolf, I Know You Rider, some acoustic stuff from the Jerry
Band, and NRPS, ... .  There was a touch of pedal steel - which really
added to the sound.  There were a few technical problems with the
sound - suggesting this was one of their early outings.
	I just caught wind of this the morning of the show. It was
billed as a tribute to the songs of Robert Hunter and the Grateful 
Dead.  If any of you get the chance to catch these guys as they
make the rounds of the smaller clubs, do it!  It helps ease the
abrupt touring halt  ( tapes are great, but don't always move me
to dance, these guys did :-)!).

					David 
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From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Julie Petersen)
Subject: Re: RAMONES in CHICAGO
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:28:22 GMT

>Come see the Ramones at the Avalon Ballroom in Chicago.
>Social Distortion is opening. Doors open at 6:30, music starts at 7:30.
>All tickets are General Admission. Maximum capacity is 3000.
>Tickets are $20 plus about $4 per ticket TicketBastard extortion charges.
>
>The Avalon is supposed to be a great place to hear live music....
>It's located three blocks off of Lake Shore Drive on Lawrence avenue.

I believe that's the ARAGON ballroom... not the Avalon. The Av' is tiny
and would be a great place to see the Ramones, but I think the Aragon is
closer to the right size (~5000). And yes, it is a great place to hear
live music, I saw Black Sabbath there a few weeks ago. I would LOVE to
see the Dead there (when you see the ceiling inside, you'll know why).

Jim

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