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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:17:39 EST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         NCUT000 <NCUT@SLUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      perferred server in 2.15c

>   Would somebody tell me if the perferred server command can be used in
> Netware 2.15c and where to put it.  I can find no reference to it in the
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You need to be running the newer shells (at least ver 3.01, I believe).
Check the version of ipx/netx, you'll probably find that they are <3.xx

As for the primary nic question:  I don't really know, but it seems
like it wouldn't matter since they are sharing the same internal bus in
the server.  They have roughly the same access to the servers internal
resources.  I don't think Netware gives any relative priority in a
multiple nic server.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

nick


Nick Cutry                         voice: (315)379-5971
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St. Lawrence University
From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: Token Ring vs. Ethernet
Summary: Re: Token Ring vs. Ethernet
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:39:12 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930118132647.288@cannes.barclays.co.uk>,         Rod Wilson <Rod.Wilson@BARCLAYS.CO.UK> writes:
> > I suppose what confuses me about the ethernet token ring question is
> > that the Netware documents state 30 ethernet stations max per segment
> > and 96 token ring stations max per ring. therefor to achieve the same
> > number of ethernet users accessing a server as you could with only two
> > token ring cards you would need six ethernet cards in the server. this
> > six card solution probably wouldnt physically fit in a typical server.
> > therefore I would think that you would need to add a router to the
> > picture. this would allow you to use one or two ethernet cards in the
> > server. Now if you add the cost of the router to the price of the
> > ethernet cards and divide by the total number of workstations the cost
> > of the two is equal.
> >
> > 96(per ring) * 2(server cards) = 192(cards) @ $500 = $96000
> >
> > 192(ethernet cards) @ 150 = 28800 + one decent router @ $25000 = $53000
> >
> > oops| guess the only way to have people use token ring is to lower the
> > price per card
> >
> Hmmmm, you forgot the cost of extra manpower to do all this. Would
> probably cost you in the region of errrr $44000, therefore it looks
> like Token-Ring just pipped Ethernet at the post! BTW, for penance do
> 10 hail token-rings. :-)
> 
> 
I'm confused......


Why do you need extra manpower for Ethernet?   I have a 24 hour a day
5 building campus, support 30 systems, including 20 Novell nets and
4 Lan Manager nets, combined Ethernet and FDDI, mission-critical( if the
net goes down patient care will be affected) 1850 nodes, 20 bridges and/or
routers.... etc... I have 5 people for three shifts....

I don't understand.....


Ethernet cards are cheaper


Coz


Randy Cosby
Network Manager
Texas Children's Hospital
Houston, Texas
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:58:14 GMT
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From:         K re Fundal <kf@MMF.RUC.DK>
Subject:      Re: Yet again printer accounting

>I suspct there's a few of us out here who would be interested in any
>information you can gather on print accounting and quota-ing. We have been
>testing PSERV which works reasonably reliably most of the time, but
>re-setting quotas is an enormous chore with several thousand users (students)
>and no command-line utility to do the job efficiently.
I have made a command-line utility for exactly this job. I only know one
place to find it, and that is where I uploaded it, but maybe it is mirrored
somewhere. You can find it in
  pub/msdos/networks/novell/saccnt11.zip
at
  nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100)
It has the ability to set the account for all users in a group with one
command, which seems to be the thing needed.
As to the PServ I much prefer PCounter by AND-technologies, which is saw
mentioned in another answer to the list.

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* Kaare Fundal                        *
* IMFUFA                              *
* Roskilde Universitycenter, Denmark  *
* (KF@MMF.RUC.DK).                    *
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Once I was conceited... but now I'm perfect!
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From: bpc@unb.ca (Brian Cassidy)
Subject: Re: SMC RPL boot prom and ether.rpl?
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:13:53 GMT

>Hi.  I've just started playing around with these cards as well, done
>everything you've just said and got exactly the same result. I didn't
>see any responses when I checked thru' the net, but if you get any could
>I please have a copy? Pretty please..? These cards are @#$%^
>frustrating!
Don't panic. This problem has been solved. We have about 100 computers 
remote booting with SMC ROM-RPL v1.5.
FTP to unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca (131.202.1.2) and then cd pub.novell.sys 
and then get file rpl.zip. Put rpl.nlm in sys:system and everything
else in sys:login. The autoexec.ncf goes something like this:
load smcpluss frame=ethernet_802.2 name=remote
load rpl
bind rpl to remote
Yes. It does work. Oh yes, rplfix and rplodi are not required.

Brian Cassidy <BPC@UNB.CA>
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jan 1993 07:55:57 EST
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From:         "Yoke, Charles" <CYOKE@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      TN3270 Questions

We are evaulation LW4DOS and the TN3270 module.  Everything works fine
except when it comes to changing the colors in TN3270.  We tried to use
the instructions in the manual, but they do not seem to work in our
environment.  Is anyone else using this module?  If so, are you changing
your screen colors and if so how?  Please respond to me directly.  Thanks
in advance for the help.

Chuck Yoke
Manager, Administrative Networks
CYOKE@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:55:42 GMT
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From:         Thor Aage Thorvaldsen <thor@BENONI.NBR.NO>
Subject:      Re: 32meg and SCSI express

In article <NOVELL%93012114080603@SUVM.SYR.EDU> you write:
>Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:23:22 HFH
>From:         Lalot <MAINT@FRAIX11.BITNET>
>Subject:      32meg and SCSI express

>Sorry to come back on that subject again.

>We finaly received our upgrade for SCSI express (1.2). We are using adaptec
>1542B and we didn't find the way to use 32meg. We got just a page about
>aha arguments and tried:
>in autoexec.ncf (dos c:)
>register memory 1000000 1000000
>load aha port=330 slot=1 below16 bufs=32

>....
>Netware just recognize c:|

>Is there anything else to do


>Thanks in advance


>Dominique

If You read listserv.cdromlan you will get an answer from the developers of
SCSI Express, MDI.
Arnold is a very able guy. He can give you the correct advise.

BTW: We use SCSI Express at the library. It's recommended.
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From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Adding memory to server

stephen@BOKONON.UUCP writes....
>
>
> SET AUTO REGISTER MEMORY ABOVE 16 MEGABYTES = OFF
>
> statement in STARTUP.NCF, NetWare _will_ use all available memory.  This
> parameter defaults to ON on EISA machines, so unless you indicate
> otherwise, all memory will be used, with potentially disastrous
> consequences depending on what cards you have plugged into your
> server.
>
>    On ISA and MCA machines, NetWare will only use up to 16 MB; to use more,
> you must run
>
> REGISTER MEMORY startingaddress amountofextramemory
>
> (for an extra 16 MB, it would be REGISTER MEMORY 1000000 1000000; note
> that some iterations of the NetWare manuals have the wrong number of
> zeroes in their examples).
>

You also have to watch out for MCA adapters stealing some of the address space
for their buffers (like ISA adapter do). This is true for the 3c527 card
anyway.

Richard
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:12:00 LCL
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From:         MTISDELL <MTISDELL@LARSE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Problems with Packet Burst

>  I have been doing some work with Packet Burst, and noticed that
>  whenever I receive a Netware message, my workstation locks up...
>
>  I tried using netx.com instead of bnetx.com, and the problem is
>  still there. I noticed that it only seems to occur when I use
>  version 3.26 of the shells, other versions don't have the same
>  problem.

> We have just encountered a similar problem and have had to abandon
> packet burst. It worked fine on our test network, without any problems
> at all. But when we went live, the machines began to lock up.

> Given these curious results, we are currently trying to isolate the0
> cause(s) of the problem.

We have had many of the same problems here (Most dramiticly with windows
and bnetx). Note the machines don't actually hang they just stop talking
to the server for a while, and after about 10 to 15 minutes they start
working again for a while and then everything repeats itself. When
looking
at the packet exchange between the server and the workstation it apears
that
the workstation shell is not recongnizing or just not responding to some
of the burst mode packets. Durring the hang the only packet that the
workstation responds to is the keep alive packets, and after several
minutes
the workstation wakes up. I have seen this problem on every version of
bnetx
that I have tried not just 3.26.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:03:36 LCL
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From:         Steve Holmes <C20262@PRIME-A.PLYMOUTH.AC.UK>
Subject:      Problems with Packet Burst

Rod Wilson <Rod.Wilson@UK.CO.BARCLAYS> writes:

>  I have been doing some work with Packet Burst, and noticed that
>  whenever I receive a Netware message, my workstation locks up...
>
>  I tried using netx.com instead of bnetx.com, and the problem is
>  still there. I noticed that it only seems to occur when I use
>  version 3.26 of the shells, other versions don't have the same
>  problem.

We have just encountered a similar problem and have had to abandon
packet burst. It worked fine on our test network, without any problems
at all. But when we went live, the machines began to lock up.

Given these curious results, we are currently trying to isolate the
cause(s) of the problem.

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

      Steve.


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From: jdelorey@fairfax.stfx.ca (John DeLorey)
Subject: Strange file read error
Organization: University Computer Services, St. Francis Xavier University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:20:11 GMT

Hi,

  I am getting a real strange file read error.  I have about 6 map assist
print servers onmy file server.  I am having a problem with 1 of them. Every 
once in a while, the error log reports errors reading the queue files for 
the printer hanging off of it.  It appears to work fine, it actually seems 
to give these errors when no one is using it????

any ideas
From: owings@nwu.edu (Peter W. Owings)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: concurrent users
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:48:31 GMT
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Organization: Northwestern University

Hello,

Which is the case if I have a 20 user license of Novell?  Is a user slot
(from the license) taken up when a user is attached (i.e. runs netx) or
only when the user has actually logged into the file server?  In other
words, can I have 50 users attached (because they have loaded the odi
drivers and netx) to my server as long as only 20 users are logged in, or
am I restricted to 20 attached users?

Thanks,
Peter...



_______________________________________


Peter W. Owings, ACNS
Northwestern University
owings@nwu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:46:59 -0600
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From:         Rich Molettiere <richm@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: macs and novell

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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993, A.J. Sheehan wrote:

>  Some previous correspondence on the
> list suggests that a Netware server makes a much better vehicle for multiple
> Mac users than a Quadra...Now there's a thought!
>
 Both MacUser and MacWorld magazine - and some Apple corporate types -
recommend NetWare over AppleShare for mixed platform networks.

Rich
From: DURNAL@CCSTAFF.CC.UKANS.EDU (Chet Durnal)
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Subject: Novell's Perform3
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:22:11 GMT
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Organization: University of Kansas
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I am looking for novell's program perform3 on the internet. I know it
is available via compuserve but I'd rather see if I can get it
through the internet. Does anyone know where I might find it?

Chet Durnal(Durnal@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:46:04 EST
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From:         Sarah.Gray@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
Subject:      Printing from Macs

    Is it possible to print from a Mac to a printer connected to a parallel
port on a Novell server which is running Netware for Macs?  The book
talks about serial ports a lot, and the problem with Postscript on a
parallel port, but doesn't outright say if it will or won't work.
    I have both a Postscript printer (NEC SIlentwriter 95) and a
HPIII on the server.
    THe Mac is connected via Ethernet, and is not running Appletalk printing
services.  The printers show up in the Netware zone, but printing to them
doesn't work.  THe job goes to the queue, and shows as ready, but never
is active.
Sarah.Gray@um.cc.umich.edu
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From:         "Jan Q. Janssens" <jqjansse@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: Etherlink III ! NO other!
              93 8:20 am

CS06999 writes:
>
> we were lucky enough to be able to test an etherlink III card from
> 3Com and we like it lots! Nice automated setup utility, drivers for
> all the stacks that we use, and nice documentation. The parallel
> tasking is fast, though i have no benchmarks to prove it. Great card
> Great price.
>
> Only other card I would consider is an NE2000 if you are worried
> about timely availability of drivers
>
> rick

Rick,

could you expand a little more on the term "parallel tasking".  I heard
it being mentioned before (by the Computer Centre people over here), but
they couldn't elaborate.  The term is also used on the Adapter Guide cover
and in the Introduction.  I admit not having read the Guide from cover to
cover, but I haven't stumbled on an explanation yet (I'm known to being deaf
and blind sometimes, though).  By the way, currently I'm running the sixth
beta-test of the Packet Driver (haven't had time to install and test the
seventh yet).  I use PKTMUX v. 1.2 to run Windows packet driver apllications
and PC-NFS v. 4.0a over packet driver concurrently.  As you can see, we're
*no* NetWare shop (I wish we were!).  I *have* problems with copying large
volumes of data between local hard disks and network drives, but the seventh
release should take care of that (haven't tested it yet).

So could anybody explain what this parallel tasking is all about?

Jan.

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:02:20 PST
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From:         Richard Warner <rick@SJSUMCS.SJSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Peer access on Novell
              "wyland@MCIS.MESSIAH.EDU" at Jan 26, 93 3:03 pm

>
> We have a situation in which someone needs to access large graphic files
> from a different location than the PC on which they are stored.  We currently
> are giving this person some disk space on the server, but this needs to stop.
> I would like some comments about some of the products that could do this
> such as Map Assist from Fresh or Novell Lite in conjunction with regular
> Novell.  Keep in mind that these are not small files.  One possibility if
> performace would be bad is to have the person copy the file being worked on
> to a local hard drive and copy to back to their machine when finished.
> Comments?
> .......................................................................
> Item Subject: signature
>   ---------------------------------------------------------
>   |      xx                          |  Network Manager   |
>   |     xx  Tony Wyland              |  Messiah College   |
>   | xx xx   wyland@mcis.messiah.edu  |  Grantham PA USA   |
>   |   xx                             |  (near Harrisburg) |
>   ---------------------------------------------------------

One additional alternative, especially if you already have it, is
to use PC-Tools (ver. 8).  There is a command, DriveMap, that
allows peer-to-peer disk and printer sharing over SPX.  I use it
for an occasional time when I need to access files off of my other PC
(I use two at a time, usually).  Relatively slow, but it has been
reliable for me.

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|                       | CompuServe:  71121,2257             |
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From:         John G Bryan <bryanjg@UCUNIX.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Big menus, little memory

Wise ones:
As our apps become more plentiful and the network of users spreads, my
Novell menus are bloating, taking larger and larger bytes out of the
DOS pie.  (EG:  a menu option for formatting low or high-density disks
that are 5.5" or 3.25" on three different brands of machine with three
differnt levels of DOS has lead to a monstrous menu that works splendidly
because it arrives at the feast first but leaves mere morsels for the apps
that arrive late.)  The effects:  often not enough memory for print preview,
macros, sometimes even for printing.

I tried creating two menus, one lean and fit for most purposes but capable of
invoking the second menu, the hungry one needed less often--such as for
formatting disks.  It worked in  that it got me to the second menu and did
its job, but it got lost on the way out of the second menu and exited to the
system.

The menu system is ideal for our hundreds of novice users.  Surely there is a
way.  They and I will appreciate your help.

John Bryan
bryanjg@ucunix.san.uc.edu
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From:         AAntipor@UNEX.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Postscript printing using Macs on 3.11

Novellers:

We have Novell running on a 16MB Token Ring for our PC Clones and
Macs (MacRing for our Macs.)  We have two printers: 1) QMS 2210 postscript
printer, and 1) Agfa RIP printer for Mac use.  Using Localtalk the printers
work fine printing graphics and postscript, however; when we attach the
printers to the network, and using "rprinter" only text files print.  In
addition, we have one print server dedicated for each machine running
"pserver."  We have set the queues to "Bytestream," but that hasn't helped.
I want to make sure this is not a Novell issue.

We have seemed to fallen, and we can't get up. Any insight or additional
information is appreciated.

Thank You in Advance,

Alan Antiporda
UCLA Extension
Manager, Systems & Technology
aantipor@unex.ucla.edu
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