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From: fine@sofine.detroit.sgi.com (Steve Fine)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Avian Vet in Cincinnati
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:28:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Oct14.200524.7903@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, calvinj@ecs.comm.mot.com (Calvin Jestice) writes:
|> 
|>     I had promised some one information on an Avian Vet
|> I had taken my blue front to in Cincy.  While going thru
|> some old records last night, I found copy of one of the
|> bills.  I don't know if the person still exists or not
|> or even if the phone number is correct, but here goes:
|> 
|>     The name of the vet was Dr. Hill.  He practices
|> at three clinics, but we took him to one in Fairfield.
|> 
|>     Fairfield - Dixie Animal Clinic
|>     5117 Dixie Hwy
|>     Fairfield, OH 45014
|>     513 - 829 - 8989
|> 
|> 
|> Good Luck,
|> 
|> Cal Jestice
|> calvinj@ecs.comm.mot.com
|> -- 

I don't know that he is still there.  I have been
in contact with him and his office is (I think) in either
Kenwood or Blue Ash. 

I would highly recommend him, he is an excellent
Vet.  If anyone needs it, I could probably get his
current phone and address.
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Steve Fine                              fine@sgi.com
Systems Engineer, Great Lakes District (Detroit, MI)
These opinions are mine blah blah blah.........
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From: kevin@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Northern Exposure ANFSCD Droppings
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:30:22 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

Did anyone catch "Northern Exposure" this week?  There is a scene where this
guy is living in a trailer and has just Tons of birds!  Some I recognized
others I couldn't in particular there was a primarily red colored parrot about
the size of a...uhm... uh about half the size of a cockatoo (of which there 
was one in the scene!)  Anyone who saw the show know what it is?  I did tape
the show so I can probably post a more accurate description if need be.

BTW a previous poster mentioned dropping's and that reminded me of an oddity
with Buddy (My Meyer's)  His first Morning dropping is VERY liquid, large and
green.  During the day his dropping are more normal though they don't ever
achieve the "classic" form.  They are darker colored and more solid.  Finally
at night he seems to leave this little beads of droppings.  They are brown with
a white swirl.  This isn't just recently they have been like this since we got
him.  Is this normal for him or should I be concerned?

kevin
kevin@msus1.msus.edu
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From: calvinj@ecs.comm.mot.com (Calvin Jestice)
Subject: Avian Vet in Cincinnati
Organization: control_centers
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:05:24 GMT

    I had promised some one information on an Avian Vet
I had taken my blue front to in Cincy.  While going thru
some old records last night, I found copy of one of the
bills.  I don't know if the person still exists or not
or even if the phone number is correct, but here goes:

    The name of the vet was Dr. Hill.  He practices
at three clinics, but we took him to one in Fairfield.

    Fairfield - Dixie Animal Clinic
    5117 Dixie Hwy
    Fairfield, OH 45014
    513 - 829 - 8989


Good Luck,

Cal Jestice
calvinj@ecs.comm.mot.com
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From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Subject: Re: Urgent Plea from the Father Tongue!
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:14:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.105732.5969@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue) writes:

   the father tongue would like to know of any birdie repellent usable
   on the carpet.  normally we place aluminum foil in strategic areas,
   but the house is now starting to resemble a mylar ballon.  

Snakes.

Seriously! My Goffin, Igor is deathly afraid of curvy-shaped roots or
sticks because he seems to think they are snakes. He was born with
a wonderful set of snake reflexes (which, I must admit, I have
reinforced :-}), probably because cockatoos spend so much of their
time on the ground. 

Any time Igor starts to chew something he isn't supposed to, I show
him the "snake", a foot-long piece of pine tree root. If he still
doesn't stop, I chase him with it a little. If I need to Igor-proof an
area of the floor, I just lay a few "snakes" around that area. He
doesn't go near them...

--Doug
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From: dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Bird-down-the-shirt (Was: A Tale of One Beak)
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:51:29 GMT

I was told by a guest once that she thought the bird
going down the shirt was neat, but that her nipple-ring
was something that she needed to be aware of, and steer
the birdo to the opposite side...  Good advice I should think.

Doug

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From: Moritz@cvmmdl2.msstate.edu (K.Moritz)
Subject: Re: Myna Bird
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:29:39 GMT

When I was growing up, I remember several ladies (all of whom were German) owning
Myna birds. I remember these as the first captive birds (other than in zoos) I
had ever seen.  This was the day and age when pelleted foods were not "vogue", 
and they were ALWAYS very clean and inside the house, in nice cages.  Now whether
or not they were always clean was because of the birds or the owners, I don't know.
BTW they all spoke clear, perfect German.  As young as I was, I didn't realize
it was because that was what the owners spoke, I just thought that all Myna 
birds spoke German.  To this day, an English speaking Myna sounds funny 8-)
I have read that Mynas have the most clear sounding voice of all birds. (Greys
are suppose to have the biggest vocabulary etc, but Mynas the clearest sound)
I can't compare because I don't own either but that is just what I have read.

Kristin
From: Polly.Goldman@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Polly Goldman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Urgent Plea from the Father Tongue!
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 12:40:22 -0500

Re: prevention of african grey consumption of oriental rug---
   
There are some "anti-pluck" sprays available at your pet store with names like
bitter apple, which *might* make the rug less palatable.  Of course, there's no
guarantee that the spray won't hurt the rug...
From: fine@sofine.detroit.sgi.com (Steve Fine)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Kiree - new Goffin
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:44:17 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Oct9.144853.1986@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, bhtongue@highlander.berkeley.edu (Benson H Tongue) writes:
|> Well everyone, since I'm sure you're all in suspense over the
|> final denouement of our bird search and acquire mission:
|> 
|> At 8:30 last night we added Kiree, a Goffin Cockatoo, to our
|> family. Kiree, born May 10, midnight, is probably female and
|> is about as sweet and well behaved as one could wish for. Even
|> during the trip home in a dark and scary cardboard box (tough
|> call but we all decided the box was preferable to scarier lights
|> and sounds of night driving) she merely called out at conversational
|> levels - no 100 dB Moluccan screams here! She's quite settled in
|> now in her spacious new cage. Vet check is scheduled for today
|> and then we begin the long process of making a lady of her.
|> 
|> BTW, for those considering a bird, Kiree, (and according to
|> our breeder all cockatoos), waggles her tail before pooping.
|> I've verified that Kiree indeed does this. Now this is NICE.
|> Our cockatiel also warns us but it's a bit more subtle. WE've
|> got our cockatiel almost 100 percent potty trained and it would
|> seem, given Kiree's convenient early warning system, that
|> she'll be potty trained real soon. I can't comment on other
|> species, but this sure seems like a nice trait to have. 
|> 
|> Benson

We have a Sulphar Crest 'Too that does the same tail waggle
bit.  She is also pretty well trained at this point.

It was funny when she was young.  She would wiggle her 
behind, then fall over, because she couldn't hang on to 
the perch yet!!!!!!!!!
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Steve Fine                              fine@sgi.com
Systems Engineer, Great Lakes District (Detroit, MI)
These opinions are mine blah blah blah.........
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From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Medicating parrot
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:25:20 GMT
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7


In article <1992Oct15.180436.12363@NOC.Vitalink.COM> rnewlund@vitalink.com (Robin Newlund) writes:

> I'm hoping to get some helpful hints on how to medicate a parrot.
> He needs oral medication, liquid twice a day. 

An area, unfortunately, in which I've gained a lot of experience. I've
had to medicate my severe macaw and my double yellow-headed Amazon.
The _only_ way that works for them is to squirt the liquid into their
mouth with a disposable syringe (no needle, of course). With the
severe, I don't have to immobilize her in a towel: I just grab her
upper mandible, pry her mouth open, insert syringe, and squirt. The
double yellow required wrapping in a towel before I could get her
medicated.

You can purchase disposible syringes at any drugstore. Be sure to get
ones without needles, or at least with removable needles. There _are_
some disposible syringes that have non-removable needles included...

Good luck.

--Doug
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From: kaszyn@HELIX.NIH.GOV
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Mynah birds
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:55:35 GMT

I own two mynah birds.  The reason that they are so rare is that
importation has really been cut way down.  But there are still some out
there, and I know a place where they are selling for $350.

Mynahs come from Burma, Thailand, India, and I can't remember where else. 
There are several different species.  The three most common, most
likely-to-talk species are the Greater India Hill, the Lesser India Hill,
and the Java.

Mynahs need very large cages or aviaries because they are extremely active
and yes, they are quite messy.  I waited several years to get my first one
because I was afraid that I couldn't handle the mess.  But it's really not
that bad.  You just have to stay on top of it.

My handfed female Greater India Hill mynah was never purposefully trained
to talk.  She picked up her 25-word vocabulary on her own.  She will call
the dogs by name, tell them to go outside, gleefully shouts "No! Bad dog!",
says, "hello, how are you?" every morning, etc.  She is so curious and
funny that I could never give her up.

My wild-caught male only says "hello" and "shutup!"  His voice is very low
and gutteral.  The female has an ear-piercing whistle which we hear
frequently, usually first thing in the morning.  The male never whistles,
but makes a clicking or snapping sound instead.

Successfully breeding them in captivity is uncommon.  There is a mynah club
which was organized almost two years ago.  It prints a newsletter four
times yearly.  It usually runs a few ads that have mynahs for sale.  You
can get domestically-bred ones that have just fledged.  These, of course,
will make the most promising pets.

Mynahs can be housed with other mynahs, pigeons, pheasants, hornbills, and
toucanettes.  They will kill finches, canaries, parakeets, and lovebirds. 
I  know of a mynah that got along with an amazon parrot, but that's the
exception rather than the rule.

Mynahs love water and will bath daily, splashing their water all over the
place.  This is another thing to consider if you're worried about the mess.

I honestly don't think it's a good idea to surprise anyone with a mynah
bird.  They are alot of responsibility.  There have been times when I was
just too tired or not feeling well enough to spend the 30 minutes required
daily to wash cage dishes, scrape bars, and change the cage bedding.  But
these chores are not something that you can put off for long.

Hope the above information helps.

-Eve
                            
             
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From: lecampbell@OCTAVO
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Myna Bird
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:17:39 GMT
Reply-To: lecampbell@OCTAVO

I lived with a mynah bird for about a year near the end of the 1960s.
He was indeed messy, but the real problem with him was the noise.
With cockatiels and macaws covering makes the clam up faily soon.  This
mynah didn't seem to care if it was light or dark, day or night.  When
he wanted to address the world, by gosh, the world had better listen.

He did the squeaky cupboard quite well.  And the neighbor's children
playing outside.  And did I mention the telephone?  Never actually said
any real words except "hello? hello?"

He wasn't tame in the least.  I was used to affectionate birds--even
affectionate chickens--and this was a new experience for me.  He
wasn't particularly attractive either.  Yet, while he was visiting
my roommate's grandmother, someone stole him.  We never could
figure out why.

Laura
From: Doris.Marsh@f501.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Doris Marsh)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Why pellets?
Date: 12 Oct 92 04:18:26 GMT

> Ever since I've started reading this group, I've heard people
> extolling the virtues of pelleted birdie food.  I'd never
> heard of or even seen pellets before (I still haven't seen
> them!). What do the poor birds who are left in the wild do?

Hi!

        Parrots in the wild eat a large variety of wild fruits,
vegetables, leaves, bark, seeds, nuts, insects, snails, etc.,
and if the truth be known, we still don't know what constitutes
a good diet for parrots.  A study is underway at  U.C. Davis to
find out what is a good diet for Orange Winged Amazons.  I
don't use pellets, but I think the reason behind using pellets
is that in a seed diet, the bird picks and chooses, while in a
pelleted diet, the bird is eating everything in one pellet.
I've known birds who don't eat seed or pellets and exist fine
on "human" food.  If your bird receives plenty of beans, fruits
and vegetables with an occasional chicken bone or suitable
protein, there's no reason your bird won't live to a ripe old
age.  The general rule is that if the food is good for you,
it's good for the bird.  If the food is unhealthy for you, then
it's not good for the bird.  An occasional hard boiled egg
chopped up with the shell is good for your bird as well as
scrambled eggs that aren't cooked in oil.

        The bottom line is that if you and your avian vet feel
that your bird is receiving a well-balanced and varied diet,
you should stick with it.  Take care, Doris

 * SLMR 2.1a * Birds Say, "Always Keep Your Pecker Up!"

 * Origin: SeaHunt BBS, San Francisco (415-431-0473) (8:914/501)
From: Moritz@cvmmdl2.msstate.edu (K.Moritz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: African Grey Congos and Mynahs
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:26:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Oct14.022609.11475
Organization: Mississippi State University

In article <1992Oct13.192820.2247@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>, shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
> 

> 
> The next Mynah I saw a couple of years ago in a pet store in
> Columbus, MS that I would not even buy seed from.  He looked
> very healthy and was a good talker to, but was just learning.

 I would like to say that the poor bird still there, if it is the same bird.
I'm living about 30 miles west in Starkville.  I was going to write later, 
after tommorrow's test, but when I saw this I had to write.  
This "pet store" just breaks my heart and I don't know what to do.  There are
2 birds that "live" there, a Myna and an Amazon (which they claim is a yellow
fronted Amazon).  I have been in the shop and have been appalled by the filth
in the cages of both of these birds.  The oop is dried and piled up and inch 
or two below the perches.  The Amazon had horrible water and seeds only
(they claimed he ate veggies and topper seeds, but there were NO indication
that there were ANY veggies in that bird's diet!!!) in the cup.  Only a T-stand,
 no toys what so ever.  His feathers were tattered, and he just seemed to sit 
there.  The Myna is active, had clean water, and some
sort of pellets in his cups.  But the filth was unbelievable!!  It was obvious
that the cages had not been cleaned in ages. I asked if the Amazon was for sale
and they said not really but he has a price tag of $999.  My heart just
breaks for these birds!!!  I asked a president of a bird club what she would
do and she said "just flat tell them about it, and if they don't like it well
atleast you tried."  The worse that they could do is ban me from the store
which I wouldn't buy anything there to begin with, so it wouldn't be a big loss.

What do you all think I should do?  I don't know how to approach these
people.  They have had cockatiels for sale that don't look much
better but atleast they don't stay there long, before being sold.
I've seen better, healthier animals at Walmart, Honestly!!! (the 
Walmart here isn't nearly as bad as some, they have a resident
boa constrictor and blue-fronted amazon.  Both are healthy, alert
and active)
What do you say, group?
Kristin    
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From: calvinj@ecs.comm.mot.com (Calvin Jestice)
Subject: Re: Avian Vet in Cincinnati
Organization: control_centers
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:43:40 GMT

I found Dr. Hill's other two offices.

    Kemper Rd  851-6700

    Winton Rd  931-8675

Cal Jestice
calvinj@ecs.comm.mot.com
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From: gerard@caliban.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Gerard Fryer)
Subject: Re: What is your birdies favorite type of music?
Keywords: music birdies
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:37:33 GMT

In article <BvG7H8.MEB@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, mike@crg4.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Aksmanovic) writes:
|> 
|> I wonder what kind of music other Birdies like. My amazon likes most
|> kinds of music, but has a special liking for anything with a wailing
|> guitar solo (wailing guitar? I'll show you wailing -SCREECH-) or a
|> soprano singing in an opera (high C? I'll show you a high C
|> -SCREECH-).

My amazon likes Mozart opera.  Sings right along.  Too bad she can't
hold a tune.
-- 
Gerard Fryer  (g.fryer@soest.hawaii.edu)
School of Ocean & Earth Science & Technology
University of Hawaii at Manoa
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From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: Lories?
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:50:42 GMT

earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:

>Am I the only known human in the (Usenet) world who keeps/loves Lories, in my
>case specifically Black-Capped Lories (Lorius Lory Lory - file under Dept. of
>Redundancy Dept. (-: )?

>They're some of the most incredibly beautiful birds in the world, they do well
>in warm climes if raised/kept outside (I know, I know, "But, the liquid
>droppings!  The liquid droppings!" you all chant), and they are an absolute
>delight.  The females are the sweetest birds ever, and the males, albeit more
>rambunctious and prone to orneriness, not only have more character than any
>birds I've ever owned (everything from many different conures to a Double
>Yellow Head and an Orange Wing Amazon), but they are magnificent talkers,
>easily able to mimic as well as a Mynah.  I'd quit working on computers to
>raise 'em, but my pair aren't quite up to producing 100 young'uns a year (-:

>Lories - try 'em, you'll like 'em!

Don't have any myself, but I have heard thet their popularity has been
increasing. There are now available powered diets that reduce the mess.
Up here in the north we have to keep our birds inside, so the mess is
important.

I have heard good thinga about their personalities from other people as
well, and they are some of the prettiest birds available.

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From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Kiree - new Goffin
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:01:27 GMT
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7


In article <1992Oct9.144853.1986@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> bhtongue@highlander.berkeley.edu (Benson H Tongue) writes:

> 
> Well everyone, since I'm sure you're all in suspense over the
> final denouement of our bird search and acquire mission:
> 
> At 8:30 last night we added Kiree, a Goffin Cockatoo, to our
> family. 

Contragulations!

We have two Goffins: I haven't yet figured out how they managed to
pack _that_ much personality into those little white/pink (or in your
case, spiked) heads. Ever notice how much a baby cockatoo looks like
Bart Simpson?

One our ours, Igor, was hand-raised by us from the age of six weeks:
if you have any problems with Kiree let me know & I'll try to pass on
any useful experiences we had in bringing up Igor.

The other Goffin, Spike, was a pity purchase: we rescued him from a
very bad environment four months ago. He's about 10 years old, I
estimate, and completely wild. I'll be making another post regarding
Spike soon, but the short version is that he is mucho mas happier
since he came home with us...

Give Kiree our regards :-}.

--Doug
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dzzr@lanl.gov                  |  of management. -- Bob Woodward
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From: ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aaron M. Moy)
Subject: RE:Northern Exposure
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:26:02 GMT


I didn't see that particular episode, but a red bird half the size of cockatoo
sounds like a female eclectus (males are green).

						Aaron
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From: steveg@mks.com (Steve Gingerich)
Subject: Success with tapes ?
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:34:26 GMT

  I've started experimenting with cassette tape to teach my
'tiel to talk. I'm wondering how much success other people 
have had with tapes whether it be whistle or word tapes.
Indicate how much exposure was used before the bird 
picked it up, and also what kind of bird it is and how old
it is. Thanks.
--
From: sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Christine V Sylanov)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Cage Litter-Walnut shell
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:37:37 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

	I recently moved, and the pet stores which I've contacted
in Columbus don't carry the cage litter I like to use-it's a
walnut shell litter.  The stores carry corn cob litter.  A pet store
told me they could order the walnut shell litter if only they could
get a brand name.

	Is there someone out there who uses the walnut shell litter
and can email me the brand name and manufacturer info from the
package?

	Thanks, I'd really appreciate it.  

	Christine

-- 
	Christine Sylanov	sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu 

"There is nothing on my mind that could not be expressed by a long
	insane outburst of hysterical rage" -Ashleigh Brilliant
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