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From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: High Mileage BMW Riders
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:30:00 GMT

In article <92346.130547RJAQUES@ESTEC.BITNET> Roy Jaques <RJAQUES@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
>I dont know about 33% of all miles being ridden on Boxers but as a large
>proportion of police forces use BMW's I wouldn't be suprised if its true of
>BMW's in general.

Arnie Skurow used to be in charge of the BMWMOA mileage awards.  (He sent
me my 100,000 mile wings.)  Before he turned over those duties to another
individual, he reports having 1600 records in his database which was started
in the early 80's.  Each record was an individual who had received 100,000 
thru 500,000 mile award.  Look in a BMWMOA News to see how to apply.

BTW, BMWNA will also send you some nifty stuff for X00,000 miles.  They send
a swell certificate, already framed, and a very nice enamel roundel that can
be screwed to your fairing, sidecar, panniers, forehead, whatever.  This
stuff is free.  All you need is a dealer to send in the form for you.
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 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bike hire in the USA
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> :  Your Brit insurance is probably no good in the US.  See if you can
-> get : it temporarily suspended while you're out of the country - no
-> need to : pay for it if you're not there.
>
> Actually, I think this is the wrong approach.  You might want to
> check with you insurance company and see if you are covered in
> foreign countries on rented motorcycles.  I know that my insurance
> does that.  You might have to pay them some extra to cover you, but
> it will surely be less than some outfit here that doesn't know you
> and your record.

 I've never seen a standard US policy that applied outside the
boundaries of the USA.  State Farm is very wishy-washy on Canada, and
Mexico is right out.  Same with the policies from other companies I've
had, like Geico.  (didya ever wonder why they make the print so light
and tiny on the policy?  That's to discourage people from reading them)

 Like I said, though, this might be a local thing.  Insurance regs and
policies seem to change every few miles.
                                                                                                           
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: linnmj@watab.network.com (Mike J. Linn)
Subject: Re: WANTED 1976 kawasaki KE 175 for parts, motor or magnito
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:52:08 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:54:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.220121.29787@ttinews.tti.com> paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) writes:
|
|A co-worker decided that the multi-point racing seat belt was much safer
|than the standard DOT belt.  (I don't think that anyone would argue
|with this).  So, he went to a shop asking for it to be installed.
|No good.  the shop told him that they would have to remove the DOT
|belt mount points (which are in the way) and it was illegal to do that.

He went to the wrong shop.

|Another item:  The stainless steel braided brake lines work better than the 
|neoprene lines. (because the braid prevents the teflon hose from expanding,
|which puts more energy into squeezing the calipers).  

Yep, they work great.

|However, it is
|illegal for you to use the better brake lines on street vehicles
|because they are not DOT approved. 

Except Buell.  Buells have stock braided lines.  I assume a Buell is
street legal.

|And the reason they are not:
|because oems prefer cheaper neoprene lines; aftermarket companies
|do not make enough ss lines to allow them to expend a lot of money
|for certification.

So buy a set from Russell, and put 'em on.  Show me a cop that knows they 
aren't legal, thinks to look for them, and on top of that, doesn't think the
law is as stupid as I think it is.  I'm willing to take that chance.

|In both cases, the law will not allow you to be safer!

Yep, pretty stupid.  

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Twits
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:43:44 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

Andrew Michael Woodward (azw@aber.ac.uk) wrote:

> Surely it would be more informationally efficient not ot bother with cornering
> theory at all. If you find one, just stop before it, lift the front round to
> line up with the next few hundred miles of straight, get back on and enjoy
> the snooze.

Yep, nothing like the exciting twisties, grand sweepers, and thrilling 
hairpins on the M1, M4, M25 M.....

I must admit, the british isles do have some fine roads for motorbikes 
once you get onto some of the rural A and B roads, provided that you know
how to handle sheepshit and cowshit on the roads. 

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "I don't like the looks of that      |
 | DoD# 541   'Debunkers of Dogma'    |  teenager over there" Grampa Simpson |
 | Highly Individual Flaming Idiot    |                                      |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sheinfel@ssd.comm.mot.com (Aviad Sheinfeld)
Subject: Re: Choke Question ?
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:53:55 GMT
Keywords: Choken

This happens with my 91 VFR, and I assume, likewise, that the cable is
stretched more when my handlebars are turned left.  Try seeing if the
RPMs "go up" when you straighten the bars, even though you leave the
bike on the sidestand.

Aviad
VFRed



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan)
Subject: Goldwings are darned interesting motorcycles
Reply-To: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan)
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:18:27 GMT


It occured to me that by the time I had started following the thread
"Goldwings are not motorcycles", it had degenerated into some other
topic which was equally twisted and bizzare. But I thought I'd better
get my two cents in, even if it were completely out of context.

Goldwings are actually very interesting motorcycles. It would probably
take winning the lotto for me to afford one. But that's true of any
number of sportbikes with carbon-fiber components and other unobtainium
parts. Goldwings are extremely good at what they are designed to do,
and even then, are not so bad at doing other things as well. Sure,
they're ideal for going coast to coast. But having ridden my buddy
Doug's Aspencade, I can also say that they are remarkable nimble, feel
a lot lighter than they have any right to, and are great fun to tool
around on. I gotta admit a certain level of envy when I see Doug open up
all that cavernous storage space -- all of which locks, by the way, no
fear of someone walking off with soft luggage.

And just as engineering exercises, they are marvels of design. Looking
under the fairing pieces (and there are a lot of them... not unlike the
modern sportbike in that regard), it looks like something designed by
NASA. Every cable tied in its place. Every piece form fitted.  Even more
remarkable, to me, having been through the Honda Marysville plant where
these beasts are assembled. The design is made to be largely assembled
by automation. (Although there is something to be said for $50K
handbuilt italian bikes.)

And of course, there's the ability to do your grocery shopping, and
being able to stash everything in the bike, lock it up, and cruise
home. For the truely Bike Dependent, it's probably a very practical
machine. (I have similar pangs of envy when I see Kevin on his K75RT).

Now that they have cellphones integrated into the helmet speakers and
microphones on the GW, they're getting close to the true "live on it"
motorcycle. Next on the list: a book-sized phased-array satellite dish,
for both communications and global positioning system ("We can't be
lost; I have our position to within five meters.") Heck, I might put
one of those GPS boxes (now widely available in a desensitized
commercial version) on my FLHS. :-)

--
John Sloan              "Since I've given up hope,       +1 303 497 1243
NCAR/SCD                   I feel much better."      Fax +1 303 497 1137
Boulder CO 80307-3000 USA                           jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu
Logical Disclaimer: belong(opinions,jsloan). belong(opinions,_):-!,fail.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer)
Subject: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast. Why? What is your experience?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:29:22 GMT
Organization: HP Design Technology Center, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1gre32INNn9d@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy) writes:
>>My Metzeler ME33A Laser (not a comp-K) front tire has about 3,500
>>miles on it, and probably isn't going to make it to 4,000 due to wear
...
>>run it at 32 PSI, and it's been as low as 28 for a few hundred miles,
>>I guess. Would that make this much difference?
>
>Riding style makes more of a difference.  

  Than air pressure?  I think not.  Especially on a ME33.  28 is probably
7psi too low.

>29 PSI front, 32-33 PSI rear is probably about right for your
>750 Nighthawk,  What does the manual suggest?

  Manual?  C'mon Chuck.  I don't think 750 Nighthawks came with an
ME33A as original equipment.  Metzelers usually run in the mid 30's front,
right around 40 rear.

  From experience, if you run a Metzeler too low on air, it'll go away
real fast.  I've been through a number of 'em.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions about '84 V-30 Magna
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:46:11 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest writes:
;The guy at Cycle City told me to always keep the valve train chattering
;a little -- on this engine, the valves wear *tighter*, like on a VW,
;so when it gets really quiet and seems to have just a smidgen of extra
;punch, that's the time to check the valve clearances.  

"A tappy valve's a happy valve."
  -Honda mechanic whose advice I asked before checking my RR's valves

---
chris
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Locking rear (was Re: First ride in rain...)
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:52:26 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


Anyone else hit the rear machine-gun fashion as a form of ersatz ABS? 
Useful on slimy corners. Braking effect, but no weave from the tail.
Can never cooordinate doing the front simultaneously tho!
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: water-proofing gloves
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:20:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


Waste of effort! You can only showerproof them at best. If you want waterproof,
go to a climbing shop, get two layer mittens, and put plastic bags between 
inner and outer. Then all you sportbikers, riding along in the racing crouch,
have to worrry about is the way all the water on your jacket rumns down the
sleeves and collects in the gloves. Guess you can save it for your next ride
across the desert?

If its warm, who cares anyway? If it's cold, I've yet to find a 
solution in 20 years of riding! Buy a cruiser, so it all dribbles off your 
elbows? You also dont have so far to fall when you lose it on a wet road?
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:35:30 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Dec16.001524.1@cua.edu> 43wendel@cua.edu writes:
>
>	Does anyone have any information on Dennis Kirk catalogs.  The reason
>I ask is because I have heard different opinions as to whether they're products
>are worth ordering.

Their service is fine, their prices leave a whole lot to be desired.  I
didn't have any trouble beating their prices on Shoei helmets by just buying
retail, and their price for a set of Metzelers (ME33/ME55) was about 35%
higher than Competition Accessories, where I ended up ordering from.

I won't give Competition Accessories a recommendation, though, til the things
actually get here.

By the way, I now know what it feels like to drive on a fairly flat front tire
with a fairly large nail in it.  Another little first.





-- 
Ray Shea                                      
UniSQL, Inc.                             Sometimes I feel like a blue dog.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu                                     -- The Blue Dog
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:10:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> >Why not?  It _is_ their own damn fault.  Your post sounds as thought
-> this >is precisely your attitude anyway.  I also regret the fact that
-> we have >come so far away from personal responsibility in these US of
-> A.

> In general that *is* my attitude.  However, sometimes there are cases
> where either the manufacturer didn't go far enough to educate the
> consumer (which is still quite often the consumers fault) or
> circumstances that couldn't be preconceived.

 Why should it be the manufacturer's resonsibility to educate the
consumer?   If I had the money, I could walk up to Boeing and buy a 747.
Or I could buy a milling machine, or a computer.  That doesn't
necessarily mean I'm a pilot, a machinist, or a programmer.  It's not
the manufacturer's problem.

 "Hey, asshole, you sold me this hammer, and it didn't have safety
stickers all over it like my ladder and weed whacker, and I just mashed
my thumb with it and the nail is going to come off.  I'm going to sue
your ass off, and given the way US courts work, I'll probably win!"

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can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:58:09 GMT

In article <BzDB0G.5BC@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>In article <BzB0BH.51K@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> crmoorle@napier.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>>Has anyone out there had any experience with Nitrous Oxide?  
>
>Yup 8-} :) ;-)
>

Yeah. Lots of fun, but wears off too quick.

Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: what to buy?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:19:30 GMT

In <1992Dec6.212752.18216@husc3.harvard.edu> ndrose@husc8.harvard.edu (Nathan Rose) writes:

>This may not be the right place for such a question, as from what I can tell
>discussion is mostly of mainline fullsize bikes. But I'm looking for, in a 
>nutshell, the smallest, lightest, cheapest bike (scooter, even, perhaps) I can
>get thaI could take longdistance. I don't care if it won't go above 45 mph
>(I'm a bicyclist at heart and that sounds plenty fast to be balanced on 2 wheels!), I just want something that won't tear itself or me apart if I ride it
>12 hours a day for weeks on end. From what I can gather, most mopeds wouldn't
>take the strain on the engine, and my concern about a scooter is that the small
>wheels would mean abumpy ride with that much time on the bike. Any ideas
>much appreciated.

>Nathan Rose
>ndrose@husc.harvard.edu
>ndrose@husc.bitnet

  I'd recommend a good used Enduro/Trail bike of 100-250cc capacity. Can
be had cheap, are light, will cross continents, take a beating, and will
take you almost anywhere. Think of a sturdy mountain bike with a motor.

__
   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous









Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: What is the DoD?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:45:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1ggt3qINNhta@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:

>ObMoto: If you are on a canyon road, and encounter black ice, is there
>anything you can do to help minimize your chances of a dramatic spill?

essentially, prayer...

Black ice is nearly invisible, chances are you will first learn
of your problem when youbegin to crash.

About the only thing would be *no* control inputs. Don't try and
steer, don't try and brake, accelerate, put the clutch in...Just
ahng on, and try and be ready for the highside when/if yu regain
traction.

Bikes just don't deal well with seriously slippery conditions.
I ride in the winter, used to do it routinely, and you could get
away with a lot by deliberatly riding in the snow, slush, and
spooge in the gutter...That was sort of like riding in very loose
sand set ontop of pavement:slippery, but possible.

Prayer is still my recco.

Regards, Charles
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 13 Dec 92 09:55:07 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles ellert@ds2.uh.cwru.edu (Ed Ellert) writes:
;Bingo!  "(not so) Brave New World" where everything is safe -- cars,
;boats, bikes, bicycles, planes, you name it, are far too dangerous to
;allow the mindless masses.  Let's see, mountain-climbing, football,
;white-water rafting, baseball; okay sports...too dangerous.  But wait,
;there's more: wood-working, working ;^), using keyboards, playing video
;games, cooking, eating?  

The definitive safetycrat allegory is "With Folded
Hands" by Jack Williamson.  You can find it in _The
_Science_Fiction_Hall_of_Fame_, Volume IIA.  Self-
repairing, self-replicating robots with the single
purpose of protecting human life arrive on Earth...

Riding a motorcycle without a helmet is not a good
idea.  I sometimes like doing things that are not
a good idea.  It can be fun.  It's even necessary,
I think, that people occasionally do things that
common sense indicates are not good ideas.  It
keeps the human race from stagnating.

---
chris
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sport Bikes
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:19:44 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1gnbpjINNm3p@rodan.UU.NET, smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.232228.625@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>>
>>Hey Gary, that sounds like a "Webster's" dictionary to me.  How can you
>>trust a dictionary that, just last year, decided to remove the word
>>"gullible"?
>
>No way!!!!!!  8-)
>
>*flip flip flip*
>
>Holy crap!  They did!!!!!!

flip flip flip...

NOT!

[hey!]

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new biker story : Katy meets a Volvo
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:49:53 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes:
: 
: Here's an email that I just got from Katy, who's just started
: riding bikes...I did warn her to watch out for volvos....
: 
: >From : cpc865::e190       "Katy Sinka"
: >To : A022
: >Subject : fucking volvo 
: 
: >(no stars today to blank out the rudest 'uc' bit)
: >I can only presume that the blind spot on a volvo
: >is 360 degrees...since this bloke turned right in
: >front of me (off a side road onto the main one
: >where I was)...no i tella lie...he turned right into me

	Stuff deleted about dim cager in volvo...


: >(so you get the swear words)
: >bloody bloody bloody
: >hate 'em
: >angry snogs
: >Katy
: 
: Anyone out there got any words of wisdom for Katy?
: 
	Get a Gun??? Carry a can of nails on her bike...ummm

	Tomatoes???


			Ryan
From: bortfeu@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Ulrich Bortfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 88' katana for sale
Date: 15 Dec 1992 00:26:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: bortfeu@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Ulrich Bortfeld)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-12.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu


		1988 Suzuki Katana
		600 cc 86 hp
		white/red
		10 kmi
		$2900


812-235-3695 after 1 am
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		YOU CAN CHANGE THE WORLD !


But can you change the oil and put in new spark plugs ?
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From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sport Bikes
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:43:15 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Keywords: Spam

In article <1992Dec15.232228.625@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>>I don't know what dictionary we was using, but mine shows the above descrip-
>>tion for the word "spout" not "sport".
>[...rest deleted...]
>
>Hey Gary, that sounds like a "Webster's" dictionary to me.  How can you
>trust a dictionary that, just last year, decided to remove the word
>"gullible"?

No way!!!!!!  8-)

*flip flip flip*

Holy crap!  They did!!!!!!

Steve Mansfield	    | The system we've learned says we're equal under law
smm@uunet.uu.net    | But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
1983 Suzuki GS550E  | Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
DoD# 1718	    | Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down.
Queensryche	    -       Speak the Word.