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From: conor@lion.inmos.co.uk (Conor O'Neill)
Subject: Re: Beer Fest at Olympia (London)
Reply-To: conor@inmos.co.uk (Conor O'Neill)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:39:39 GMT

In article <IJN.92Jul29095805@holly.bnr.co.uk> ijn@bnr.co.uk (Ian Normington) writes:
>
>
>Hi,
>	I've just heard that there is a beer fest at Olympia, London from
>	4th Aug - 8th Aug. I was wondering if anyone has any info on what
>	beers may be available.
>
>	For anyone who is interested the opening times for Sat 8th Aug are
>	11am - 10.30pm (I think the cost is two pounds fifty).

Here is my blurb about it (taken directly from the CAMRA flyer).
'Fraid I don't know exactly what will be available.
I'll be there - working from Thursday to Saturday.

============================================================================

The 1992 CAMRA Great British Beer Festival is being held at
Olympia, London, on 4-8th August 1992.

Tuesday - Friday Evenings 5pm - 10.30pm: 3 pounds.
Wednesday - Friday Lunch 11.30am - 3pm: 1 pound.
Saturday 11am - 10.30pm: 2.50.
No admittance after 10.00pm. No admission charge for Children.

I believe that there is a 'regular customer' ticket for CAMRA members -
ask at the door.

There will be over 300 real ales from all over Britain,
plus many ciders and perries.
Other attractions include pub games, craft stands, foreign beer,
breweriana, and hot and cold food at all times.

There will be live entertainment at each session, and a family
room on Tues - Fri eve, 5pm - 9pm; Wed - Fri lunch 11.30-3pm,
and Saturday 11-9pm.

For more information, and for group rates, contact CAMRA HQ on
0727 867201.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: bobv@spike.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Bob von Buelow)
Subject: unusual beer
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:56:19 GMT

How about 'Berliner Weisse'.   Pour 1 oz. of raspberry syrup in a wide brimmed
beer goblet, carefully pour the Berliner Weisse so as not to let the yeast from
the bottom of the bottle pour out.  Stir until a thick foam covers the beer.
It should have the consistency of shaving cream.  Very interesting.  By itself 
the Berliner Weisse defines bitter.  The syrup is also lousy.  (tastes 
terrible on ice cream).  But together...I like it.

Are there other bitter beers that require additives?

Bob

PS I bought 2 beautiful crystal goblets with the Berliner Weisse logo on them
   from the importer.

--
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bobv@quarky.jpl.nasa.gov         - standard disclaimers apply -
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: GOOD Lagers in the USA (Re: BAD PILSNER URQUELL)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:08:26 GMT

noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:

>Couple of questions:

>Is there a U.S. beer which is comparable taste-wise (even slightly) to Pilsner
>Urquel?

>Also, what other bottled pilsner type beers would everybody recommend, both
>imported and domestic?

Note: none of these tastes exactly like Pilsner Urquell; I'm
recommending them solely as decent lagers widely available in
America.

Sam Adams Boston Lager: Obnoxious adds, obnoxious braumeister, but
pretty darn good beer.  Good balance 'twixt malt and Saaz hops.
I'll go out on a limb, put on my flame-proof asbestos suit, mix my
metaphores some more, and claim that Sam Adams tastes more like
Pilsner Urquell is supposed to taste than any other American beer.
No, it's not as smooth, no it's not quite as well balanced, but
show me one that's closer and I'll run out and buy a case and
give half to you. (You have to come to Boulder to collect, though!)

Warsteiner: A north German pils, lighter in body, color, and flavor
than PU.  What I think is remarkable about it is that it's the
only European lager imported here that I've never had a spoiled
bottle of.  Another plus is the price: much less than the good
domestics, and less than imports of comparable quality.

August Schell Pilsner: This used to be as good or better than
Sam Adams but they've gone way down hill lately.  Too bad.
Still better than yer average beer.

****BEST QUALITY:PRICE RATIO OF ANY BEER IN THE USA****

And a pretty good German style lager to boot is Berghoff's
Beer (brewed in Monroe, WI).  Hey, gang, this stuff's cheaper
than Bud and Coors.  Bought some today for $3.50 a six pack
on sale, and its normal price is around $4.  They bill
themselves as a Dortmund style lager, and for < 60 cents
a bottle I won't argue with them;  it ain't the best beer
around by a long shot, but it's orders of magnitude better
than Budmilloors FOR LESS MONEY.  And head retention!!
When was the last time you paid less than $4 for a sixer
of beer that actually left Brussels lace on your glass?
They also make a very good bock (for the same price) and
a "dark" beer which, unfortunatley, Liquor Mart had sold out of.
Given the price I suspect they use some adjunct grains; but,
what the hell, so do Heinekin and Becks- Berghoff's tastes
better, isn't petrified skunk juice, and costs less.

By all means, check this stuff out.


Jon Binkley

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: skenny@pico.engr.mun.ca (Shawn Kenny)
Subject: Re: BAD PILSNER URQUELL
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:59:37 GMT

georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos) writes:

>Beware -- I just bought my second case (from different stores, several
>months apart) of Pilsner Urquell that was really nasty...  leaking caps,
>slimy, infected taste, etc.

>Either the Eastern Euro happenings are affecting quality control, or
>someone is counterfeiting the stuff.

>I advise you to get your dealer to AGREE IN ADVANCE that you can return
>any that's bad, because they'll just come on with some variation of
>"you're too picky", "I don't control quality, the brewery does", etc.
>otherwise.  Sad but true...  

I don't know anything about the export stuff but when I had it in Prague
durng summer of 1989 it was nothing short of superb.
--
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St. John's, NF, CANADA
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dtasman@mccoy.NMSU.Edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: Re: Phantom Beers
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:58:40 GMT

sgreen@neumann.une.edu.au (Stephen Green) writes:
> For those who have had the dis/pleasure...
> I vaguely remember the existance of a 'Castle' lager from South Africa.
> But has anyone discovered any other (former) Russian or African Beers
> through the export market, in particular, anyone in Australia?

I'm not in Oz, but you can still get Russokye here.  Tastes allright.  Although  
we get a lot of the African beers in the States, I haven't seen Castle.

"Phantom beers" ... I always heard rumours that in some small brewery in  
Pennsylvania,  beers from long-gone local upstate New York breweries (Simon  
Pure, Iroquois, Topper, etc ...) are still brewed, using the original recipes,  
but are sold only within some obscure county in the Keystone State.   

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From: mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: BAD PILSNER URQUELL
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:34:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DEC Palo Alto

archiel@sun_archielcom (Archie Lachner) writes:
>I guess some marketing types somewhere decided that Americans like to
>buy imported beers in green bottles.  It is worth noting that the vast
>majority of domestic beers as well as Bavarian beers in 1/2 litre
>bottles are sold in dark brown glass.

Brown bottles are only marginally better protection for beer than are
green bottles.

Always try to get beer in a glued-shut case, if possible.  The beer
may have problems after having been exposed to excessive heat (if
it's not pasteurized, then warmth can encourage small infections that 
produce random off-flavors), but at least you reduce the chance of 
skunkiness.

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From: tinsethg@ucs.orst.edu (Glenn Tinseth)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Green Bottle Myths
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:02:49 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU

In response to a PU-green bottle discussion> BRAB@UNB.CA (Barbora Deschenes or was it Patrick) writes:
>Dear gents, it's not a question of marketing, but rather a question of
>light filtering through green glass better than brown glass...for some
>beers, the chemical process is not complete upon bottling; hence, the
>green bottles. As for most crappy american beers, the process has ended
>far before it has (should have)started; hence the brown bottles.

Um, this is, well, wrong. The *only* thing light 'filtering' through a green
bottle of beer will do is skunk it. That is some of the hop compounds
present in the beer will be converted to smelly mercaptans. By this line of
reasoning, Miller in *clear* bottles must be the ultimate in beer and Spaten
and Paulaner must be *really* bad, brown bottles you know.

Cheers,

Glenn "Hey my homebrew is in brown bottles too" Tinseth


-- 
 Glenn Tinseth                                 Chemistry Department
 tinsethg@ucs.orst.edu                      Oregon State University
     Brewing all the beer I drink, drinking all the beer I brew.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: rock@medch.b17a.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Abita Springs beers
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:24:29 GMT

Does anyone out there have any information on the beers brewed by Abita 
Springs brewery in Louisiana?   We have just recently gotten them in 
Alabama and I was curious as to what they are like.


Thanks.

Chris Hudson
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Alcohol Content of U.S. Beer
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:37:21 GMT

mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally) writes:

>knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
>>I had read in the paper that Coors was sued because they claimed their
>>beer is made with 'sparkling mountain spring water' or some such, but
>>in reality, they ship a *syrup* to the out of state sites and mix
>>with local tap water.

>I certain that this is absolutely false.

I think that David was refering to the new Coors plant on
the east coast (North Carolina?).  Coors used to bill
themselves as being brewed with "Pure Rocky Mountain
Spring Water;"  When they still billed themselves as
that after opening their new plant, where they used the
local water, I believe a suit was threatened, and they
dropped the slogan.  I don't know about the "syrup" part.

Of course, anyone who's ever seen Clear Creek, the water
source for Coors in Golden, knows the slogan was bunk
in the first place!  "Pure Rocky Mountain Mine Tailings"
probably wouldn't have sold much beer, though!

Jon

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: 13r43@math.ucrf.edu
Subject: Re: Alcohol Content of U.S. Beer
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:53:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.171221.20135@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
> I had read in the paper that Coors was sued because they claimed their
> beer is made with 'sparkling mountain spring water' or some such, but
> in reality, they ship a *syrup* to the out of state sites and mix
> with local tap water.  Perhaps that's why it tastes different out of state?
> So much for 'freshness'.
>
Up here in Quebec, Coors is brewed under licence by Molson, and presumably made with water from the St  
Lawrence, rather than Rocky Mountain spring water. It still has the blurb on the label.
Xref: sparky alt.beer:4237 alt.party:436 rec.food.drink:2353
From: news@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer,alt.party,rec.food.drink
Subject: Re: Drinking Games "How to FTP" and other answers
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:42:11 GMT
Reply-To: folse@crs.cl.msu.edu.UUCP (Mark Folse)
Organization: Michigan State University

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: selling homebrew
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:15:51 GMT

In article 712529312@starbase.spd.louisville.edu, mcweek01@sirius.spd.louisville.edu (Michael C. Weeks) writes:
>  Can someone out there e-mail me a message telling me 
>  how a bar/restaraunt would go about legally selling 
>  homemade beer? 

A recent issue of "The New Brewer" had a short article about a couple
in Maine who did just that.  I'll look it up and post the reference
tomorrow.  (I may even have the article on-line around here
somewhere...)

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107/H/3&4
From: neil@flipper.csd.harris.com (Neil Berman)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: brewery tours
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:00:45 GMT
Reply-To: neil@flipper.csd.harris.com (Neil Berman)
Distribution: all
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale, FL

Keywords: 


 Does anyone have any information regarding brewery tours in 
 the U.K. I am particularly interested in information on 
 touring the Samuel Smith brewery in Tadcaster N.Yorks .
From: nagrwb@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: October-festival
Date: 24 Jul 92 07:41:08 GMT
Followup-To: dsnhpl
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <22619@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt) writes:
> In alt.beer, ebccdes@bosun.ericsson.se (Carlos de Sousa) writes:
>>Hi,
>>Is there anyone that knows when the October festival in Munich, Germany
>>is this year ??? (what days)
>>Thanx
> 
>     I am going so I must know :).  I was *told* that it traditionally
> ends on the first Sunday in October and is two weeks long.  That places
> it from Sept 21 through Oct 4.  Can any Germans back this up?
>     Any suggestions for a first time Octoberfester?
> --____________________________________________________
Yep - those dates sound right to me. 
Advice - before going do some weight training for your arms and build
    up those lifting muscles. Those one litre steins are quite heavy - 
    even heavier with a litre of beer in. If you want a really noisy
    atmosphere the Hofbrau tent was the noisiest one I remember with
    loads of Aussies and Kiwis dancing on table singing and shouting - 
    the umpah bands are fun too. Germans there tend to be a bit more
    reserved and just get on with the real business of drinking lots
    and eating prodigious quantities of legs of pork and whole roast 
     chickens.
    It gets really busy at the weekends with lots of Europeans making
    short trips there.
    Visit the old Hofbrauhaus in the centre of town.
    Also visit the Olympic park and go up the observation tower (but not
    if your uneasy about heights and especially not after a skinful the night
    before :-).
    Enjoy the beer!

Richard.
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From: ftgmdw@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Roslyn brewery address?
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:09:39 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

Could anyone send me the address of the brewery in Roslyn, near Seattle?
I want to see if I can get some beer from there mailed direct.
Thanks,
       Martin
From: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Keg design
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:25:53 GMT
Reply-To: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Distribution: na
Organization: NavSurfWarCen, CarderockDiv (ex-"Taylor Model Basin")

In alt.beer, deb90@ccc.amdahl.com (David E Ben-Jamin) writes:
>
>Is this minimum pressure or optimum pressure?  I recently inherited a refrigera
>tor/tap/CO2

    I've found that the minimum pressure that results in a full diameter
of beer at the faucet works best.  Just experiment around.  Another
thing I've found is that trying to throttle the tap foams up the brew
something fierce.  It's designed to be an on or off thing.

>setup and I'm wondering where to set the regulator.  Also, what is "psig"?  My
>regulator
>measures in psi only.  Is there a difference?

psig= psi-gauge
psia=psi-absolute

    Its sort of an esoteric difference, most common pressure gauges
are psig, which read zero at sealevel atmospheric pressure.  A gauge
calibrated for psia would read 14.7 psi at sea level.

>I don't need a .sig.

OK, me neither.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: Sam Adams--Jim Koch
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:03:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.195537.19979@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
>
>How can we get Jim Koch, master honorary mumpet, to SHUT UP about how
					  ^^^^^

MUPPET, MUPPET, MUPPET, a thousand times, MUPPET!!!


-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Highly Opinionated, Aging  and                      knapp@spot.colorado.edu
Perpetual Student of Chemistry and Physics.
            Write me for an argument on your favorite subject.
From: jerry@incc.com (Jerry Rocteur)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Unusual Ale
Summary: woodruff
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:15:36 GMT
Organization: InCC.com Perwez Belgium

In article <92206.175446EV0@psuvm.psu.edu>, EV0@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> I have had woodruff with my Berliner Weiss at a local establishment and it
> was superb (I prefer it to the raspberry flavoring that is popular with the
> Berliner here).  I really don't know about the availability of Berliner
> throughout the U. S.
> 
> For an interesting drink try woodruff tea someday.  A true pleasure.

What is woodruff, I have had Berliner Weiss in Bonn and found it much
too sweet, I had the red one, there was a green one but I wasn't
game to try it after finding the red one so sweet, I quite like some
of the Kriek beers but they are nowhere as sweet as the Berliner
Weiss.

Anyway, what is a woodruff????

BTW my favourite German beer on my visit was the Paulaner Salvator,
the Paulaner Weiss was also my favourite WeissBier!!
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From: ddudek@dadd.ti.com (Dan Dudek,DDXD,)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Funny British measuring
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:26:01 GMT
Reply-To: ddudek@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.


>>By the way, where the hell does this 16.9 oz come from? Is this another 
>>bizarre Metric thing...

>Yeah, it's this really wack-o esoteric metric unit, 1/2 liter.

AAAHHHHH.  See, to myself, the ignorant American, 1/2 liter (litre) is
exactly 16 oz.  I figured the extra .9 oz was for spillage...  8>)


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From: asimeone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (antonio simeone)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: beer buying?
Summary: what to look for?
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:17:54 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

ok, i've read reading alot about how you guys are choosy about the
places you buy beer, now my question is, what do should one look for in
where beer is bought?  should i note on how they store it, temp.,
etc..?
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mcweek01@sirius.spd.louisville.edu (Michael C. Weeks)
Subject: selling homebrew
Summary: Selling homebrew (legally?)
Keywords: beer
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:48:32 GMT

  I saw a message on here a few days ago from someone
  in New Mexico, I believe, who wanted to open a brewpub.
  Along the same lines, I work in a college bar, and I've
  asked the owner to sell a homemade beer on tap. He's 
  perfectly willing to do it, except for the legality.
  Can someone out there e-mail me a message telling me 
  how a bar/restaraunt would go about legally selling 
  homemade beer? 
     In this case, the equipment is already available, we 
  have a good recipe, and I think even the people in this
  area would love to have a good dark beer on tap. We already
  have Bud and Miller on tap, so I would think it wouldn't
  be difficult. 'Just need to know where to start.


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Michael Weeks
University of Louisville
Louisville, Kentucky