HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil (Sten M. Drescher)
Subject: Re: FLAME: Liefeld Art(?)
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
	<Yeo_Kny00WBKQ5Fpk2@andrew.cmu.edu> <21012@plains.NoDak.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:21:11 GMT

In article <21012@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:

   >   Huh? Excuse me, but am I reading that someone is trying to show how
   >ignorant I am based on an opinion? I took AP Art History in high school,
                                              ^^
   >it may not be a college class, but it's supposed to be representative of
   >one. In that class, I did not see one piece of 20th century art that I

   >BTW, I received a 5 on the exam.

   100 was passing? Gah!

	No, this is his score on a College Board Advanced Placement
exam, which has a 1-5 scale.  A 3 is roughly equivalent to a B in a
college course, and a 4 is an A.  Only about 1 in 20 students who pulled
an A in a 'real' college can get a 5 on an AP exam.
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Sten Drescher                  | There are men who seem like more than men.
AL/HRTI                        | Living examples of what we could be if we
Brooks AFB, TX 78235           | tried.  They are men of courage, compassion,
-------------------------------+ and justice.  On the other hand, there are
sdrescher@animal.brooks.af.mil | presidential candidates.
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: PAD on Spectacular Spidey?
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 01:02:37 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

My work on Spec Spidey was somewhat on and off.  Starting with #103,
I wrote most of the issues through #117, I think, and then a few more
up to #127, I think.

Nice to have a definitive answer, huh?

The major story arc people remember from that run was The Death of Jean
DeWolff.  But I also originated the Foreigner story arc, and since the
Foreigner is suddenly a major player in the Silver Sable series, that has
some degree of relevance these days.

PAD
From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Cyberforce
Date: 7 Oct 1992 23:12:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Anyone read Cyberforce yet?  I think it's one of the better Image comics
to have come out.  I would put it right behind Spawn.  It has good
art and a coherent story.  Kudos to Marc and Erik Silvestri for
putting out a good title.

Now if only everyone wasn't so much like the X-Men.

Howard
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Howard Shiau                       bc751@cleveland.freenet.edu
Cosyde Corporation
From: branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: PAD.  Is it really him?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:07:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct12.214954.15925@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:

>	You guys ... you're all just trying to get noticed, aren't you?

It must of worked. You noticed us, didn't you? :-)


--
                                          Karen Williams
                                          branwen@cerebus.ras.amdahl.com
"Don't whine. Warrior women speak in a husky whisper."
  -- Brat Pack #3
From: 003695s@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHANE ANDRE SAVOIE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: trivia question
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:30:45 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <1992Oct15.192442.8911@cas.org> wsm26@cas.org (Wayne Mills) writes:
>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:24:42 GMT
>Who is Frankie Raye?  The name sounds hauntingly familiar but I can't
>place the character or title!  Thanks in advance for any info!

 Frankie Raye was kind-of a member of the Fantastic Four (around #235-245 I 
think), until she was transformed by Galactus into Nova, another herald.

KID ANARKY
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From: djdaneh@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Subject: Re: Who the heck was Irving Forbush???
Reply-To: djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:32:02 GMT

In article <drichey.921008153143@eng.auburn.edu> drichey@eng.auburn.edu (David M. Richey) writes:

>I've seen many references to the name "Irving Forbush" in old (1970's)
>Marvel comics -- usually in Stan Lee's Soapbox. Who was this guy? and
>what did he have to do with Marvel?


He was a central figure in the cadet branch of the Wold Stevens family.  His
sister, Marie, was known by her married name, Mrs. Calabash; his uncle Tim was
the founder of the Yancy Street Irregulars.

Hope this helps. . .

			Hurrah for Mary, Hurrah for the lamb,
			Hurrah for the Teacher, who didn't give a particle
			if all the lambs in Idaho came marching out to school,
			shouting out the battle cry of Free-eedom!

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, Net.Roach
My opinions do NOT represent Pacific Bell,
Professional Development, or anyone else.
But I'm willing to share.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: cerebus 162 - the clinician
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:41:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.050108.25604@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, aoki@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Paul M. Aoki) writes:
> Hey!  Blossom isn't the waitress from Dino's pub with a dye-job and
> a fake-o Jaka-type accent, is she?

No.

I just realized:  if the Cirinists imprisoned Jaka for being a dancer, can
you imagine what would they do to a pros-- err, "clinician"?

-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Rebel Yell's reply ( was Re: LHN: P.C.Me Part II For )
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:01:11 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


>P.C. himself hails from Grand Forks, North Dakota
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, there's more of us Grand Forksians every day...

>and is NO stranger to gross misrepresentations.  His
>favorite is when he tries to convince people that the rumors they
>heard about 40 degrees below zero are NOT jokes.

No, Jay, they're puns. You know that. Windchill is the most effective PR
ruse to keep out unwanted immigrants in the history of the nation.

>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>| Jay Leigh Volk        |   "Great.  Please add that one to the dead   |
>| javolk@ndsuvm1.bitnet |    character file with the rest of them."    |
>| javolk@vm1.nodak.edu  |                                              |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, Jay, when are you going to wander up to Upson's third floor and get
yourself the UNIX account you're entitled to? Don't try hiding from me,
son, I know where you study!

"So, here we are in Grand Forks, North Dakota."
"Yep."
"WHY?"
	--from an unfinished Richard Darwin
	
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"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
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From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman odds and ends...
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:05:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.faber.719251541
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

>In article <lsmith.719182326@mega>, lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>> 
>>I was trying to work "Transport of Delight" into the thread on transportation.
>>Never did find an appropriate opening. I suppose "Transport of Delirium" 
>>doesn't have the same ring to it.
>
>Well, there IS "A Streetcar Named Desire"....

	"Death of a Salesman"....
>
>-- 
>			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
-- 
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From: vapspyo@prism.gatech.EDU (Jon Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Siderman 2099 #2
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:47:25 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Oct13.110844.10161@polaris.utu.fi> hannu@polaris.utu.fi (Hannu Pajunen) writes:

>Siderman?? Suicide Squid's new sidekick, huh?

No.  Siderman is published by the _other_ gigantic comics company.
Plus, I think Siderman's been around longer than Squiddy.

However, the second Sidey/SS crossover "Panelling the Ocean's Floor"
did suggest the idea of Sidey and SS leading a cross-company team
of superheroes.  Unfortunately, the idea full through in the late
80's and hasn't been brought up since.

>Hannu

No problem.
Jon
-- 
Jonathan "Jon" Hughes        | My ethicator machine must've had a built-in
vapspyo@hydra.gatech.edu     | moral compromise spectral release phantasmatron!
You don't have to be crazy   | I'm a genius! - Calvin, from Attack of the
to go to Tech, but it helps. | Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goons
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LNH: Marvel_Zombie Lad/Boy
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bvq7Cv.711@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce) writes...
>Ooops, sorry.  I missed most of Cry.Sig because my STUPID SCHOOL NEWSREADER
>hasn't seen fit to pick up alt.comics.LNH yet.  I guess I am in a coma, after
>all...so the current, official status of Marvel_Zombie Lad/Boy is:
>1. His name is still Marvel Zombie Boy, due to some nefarious plot beyond my
>   control.
>2. He's dead.
>3. He's in a coma.
>4. He STILL thinks Groo the Wanderer is a good comic.
>Watch for the "Marvel_Zombie Lad Reborn" one-shot, coming this October to a
>newsgroup near you!

Actually, that is yet just another clone of marvel Zombie lad/Boy.  A
character I'm developing (Mr. Minister) will soon arrive to shove
MZL's clones everywhere and anywhere, trying to make big money using him
to boost sales on lesser titles. 

Right now, I am waiting for our server to get alt.comics.LNH.  Tommorow,
I am goin' to try to see our SYSAD and convince him to put it up. In the
meantime, could someone send me story posts from the board, so I can keep
track of what is going on. Mail me first that you can do it, so I don't
get 30 copies of the same post.

Also, I like to thanx SCAV for mentionin' me in a recent story.
I am glad I'm still remembered.  

Coming by Saturday, the conclusion to the Cliche Dude/Halls Jordan 
2 part mini-series where they fight off the Punished.

*******************************************************************************
"As your Mr.Spock said, The needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few."
"A truism, like most of Spock's Epigrams. But on occasion, I'm afraid, cold
comfort." Jillian and James T. Kirk - "Star Trek - Debt of Honour"
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Jef Kolodziej                                                   The KaTeFan(tm)
v129j6ed@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu           State University of New York at Buffalo
History Major                                                  51 East NorthRup
(716) 837-9610                                                Buffalo, NY 14214
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From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Marvel 2099 views
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:25:58 GMT

I was thinking about Marvel's 2099 series and who from the 1990's would
still be alive in 2099 given what we have been told.

The original Dr. Doom:  In an Iron Man comic Dr Doom and Iron Man are
pulled into the 31st century  where Dr Doom destroys his future self, who
is little more that a mystic robot.

Dr. Strange:  In a divergent future (Gardians of the Galaxey(sp)) Strange is
still around in the 31st century

The Red Skull:  given his access to cloning equipment and the extended life
factor of the Super Soldier formula he should still be causing problems.

Wolverine:  hinted at in GOTG that he MAY still be alive in the 31st
century.  This is very iffy.

Machinesmith:  since he is a robot with a human mind, he should still be
around.

any comments and additions would be welcome.
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: X-men most popular
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:00:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <farant.1sl2@terapin.com>, farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason) writes:
> Maybe I am nitpicking but.... I just saw an for the X-men Cartoon and it said
> based on the most popular comic book in the world--X-men! But don't comics in
> Japan sell more copies than any american comic book ???

And the X-men probably sell BEST in japan!

					BandWagon Boy!
From: kuaxe@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: LNH: Bitter Old Men seeking admittance
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:23:25 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

	Greetings LNH,

	The organization I represent seeks admittance (or at least recognition)
by your illustrious organization.  We are called the Bitter Old Men.  Our
purpose, the destruction of the stiflers of creativity, fellows like certain
editors-in-chief of a certain number one comic book company.  I, as The Cynic, 
have set my organization in motion.  With the help of my trusty partner, 
Geezer Boy, we will put an end to the senseless destruction of good comic books
at the hands of those who wish to return to the "glorious" sixties art.
YUK!!!  We'd like to dedicate this week's post to one of the many fallen books,
Fantastic Four.


-- 

				Tim Benninghoff

				kuaxe@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: Sandman: Darkness in Corinth
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:44:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.111737.5409@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
> appel@xcf.Berkeley.EDU (Shannon D. Appel) writes:
> 
> [Why is Orpheus' head in _Brief Lives_?]
> 
> >It seems quite clear that it's thematically linked after
> >reading the latest issue....
> 
> What? You can stop being anything, even a disembodied death-barred head?

No, "Brief Lives".  Brief according to who?  You?  Me?  Dream?  Pharamond?
Capax?  Orpheus?  I think there's at least some irony in the title.

> Actually, Orpheus hasn't lived very long by the standards of the truly old.

But he has lived a lot by OUR standards.

P.S.    Yup, Orpheus is right across the way from Destruction's villa.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:07:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Hero Alliance
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc

In rec.arts.comics.misc, kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:

> 
> ---SCAVENGER saying NEVER see _Excalibur_ (movie) with a bunch of SCA people.

I can only think of one thing that would be good to do with a bunch
of SCA people, but I can't do it, because I don't have a flamethrower.

For the humoroulsy tedious:  I am mostly joking.

doug
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23: Afterthinks; SPOILERS
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:11:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct9.021108.23651
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

mss2@midway.uchicago.edu:
>I believe that Gaiman's been quoted in interviews as saying that
>their mock-superhero battles take place in a replica of New York on an
>island in the South Pacific.  This has not yet been confirmed in the
>series itself, of course...

If you'll recall, Mist mentions it in "Winter's Tale", as an island
they're building for when they're older.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   Aphorism is better than none.
From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman: Man of Steel 18
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:33:47 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <APPEL.92Oct15112804@soda.xcf.Berkeley.EDU> appel@xcf.Berkeley.EDU (Shannon D. Appel) writes:
>In article <1bjni6INNjnl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>Well not much happens in this issue. Doomsday finally breaks out and
>>surfaces. He is already on Earth. I thought he was going to be from
>>another planet, and then travel to Earth.
>
>According to the news, that's because DC caved in to the PC idiots who
>were whining about Doomsday being an escapee from a cosmic mental
>asylum.  Quite unfortunate.  Politically correct morons should be
>ignored.  

Well, as the (generally non-PC) husband of a mentally imbalanced person, I take 
offense at that statement.  You, of course, would have no idea how difficult 
it is to try to explain to your parents that the woman you want to marry and
spend the rest of your life with is not a "loonie" because she happens to have 
a chemical imbalance.  You would also have no idea what sort of stigma this can 
place on your life.  Portrayals of imbalanced people are dangerously skewed 
as it is without having a "lunatic" kill off one of our cultural icons and 
perpetuate the myth.  When you tell someone that you are imbalanced, their
reactions are shaped by the things they've been shown in movies, books, and TV
telling them that anyone who is "not right mentally" is either a) a serial 
killer, b) a sexual molester, or c) some even more ludicrous stereotype, 
perhaps even a combination of the two.  Thankfully, more people are educated 
today about the reality of the situation, but you'd be surprised how many 
people treat you like a leper after they find out "your secret."  Not only is 
it insulting, it's demeaning as well.  I don't expect to change your mind, 
but I would at least like to offer a dissenting opinion.  Flames will be 
ignored, as normal.  

>Ah well.  I was actually a bit disappointed with the issue.
>The Doomsday stuff was just so much filler, it seemed.  I hope MoS,
>which I've always thought the weakest of the 4 Superman books doesn't
>turn off people who pick it up, curious about what Superman is like
>now...

I have to agree.  The whole thing seemed kind of unnecessary.  I think DC may
be trying to drag it out in hopes of generating more interest.  This could be
either good or bad; It could increase the dramatic tension of the story or it
could just make the climax all the more...well, anti-climactic.  I have a bad
feeling this whole story could just fall flat on its face...

>Shannon

The Walrus
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Grendel -Warchild
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:30:55 GMT

In article <5ViqsB11w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca>, panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
> > 
> > My favorite is probably the final storyline, the Orion Assante one.  Though
> > in a sense it had the most "un-Grendel-like" feel to it (if there is such a
> > thing! :-)
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by "un-Grendel like" - was it that the 
> identity of Grendel was obscured?

No, it was obvious that Orion was the Grendel.  The un-Grendel-like feeling
was because this Grendel didn't run around in a costume.  This Grendel
operated through staterooms and politics to achieve his goals.

-- 
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:21:35 GMT

<JVI100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>             Sergio Aragones doing an issue of Sandman would be great!
>    This gets my vote!

The crowd scenes would be great!  We'd need a trip to hell just for
that purpose.
-- 
What is worth doing is worth the trouble of asking someone to do.
From: jz1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (James D. Zelenka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: John Ostrander
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:14:33 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Ostrender is one of my favorite writers. The only thing of his that I've
ever read and disliked was that terrible "Armageddeon: Inferno" from DC.

His "gritty" stories are realistic-gritty, not blood/guts/violence
gritty. Also, he hasn't seemed afraid to tackle tricky social and
ethical issues (Hawkworld, Suicide Squad).

Actually, Hawkworld and especially Suicide Squad are two of my favorite
"superhero" books. The characters were all well-developed and the plots
were reasonably complex. (My one gripe with O's writing is the pacing;
sometimes he seems to spend several issues setting up a reasonably
complicated plotline only to suddenly tear it down in a hurried,
one-issue finale).

	I'm really looking forward to his work on Magnus: Robot Fighter.

-jim
jz1j@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Zoo Crew, Doom Patrol
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:02:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.205717.25668@zooid.guild.org> Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>I, too, remember this book.  Not only was it one of my favorite comics at 
>the time (of course, I was only 12 years old or so), but it was the first 
>comic in which I had a letter of mine published!  (aand, come to think of 

Not to mention that a Zoo Crew letters page contained the first Big Two
publication of Art Adams art, a picture of Farrah Foxette.

>And speaking of Doom Patrol - is anyone besides me hoping for guest 
>appearances in DP by some other "wacky" DC characters from the 60's, like 
>the Inferior Five?  Or, now that Dark Horse has gotten the rights to 

Morrison did that with Yankee Doodle circa #50, and more to the point
with the I5 themselves in one of his last issues of Animal Man. The
I5 made a major appearance in Phil Foglio's Angel and the Ape mini-series,
and Phil will be doing an I5 mini-series.

"Tom Galloway went to Lunacon '85 and all he got was this lousy Foglio
plate" --caption on the lousy Foglio plate with a drawing of me that
I got at Lunacon '85
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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