From: cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker)
Subject: Re: WILL THE REAL MISOGYNISTS PLEASE STAND UP? Case 1.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:21:52 GMT


dan@Ingres.COM (Daniel J. Dick) writes:

>I missed out on what Mr. Nyikos said, but from this message alone, I cannot
>come to the same conclusion that Mr. Nyikos is either a liar or a misogynist.

One would doubt you could come to any conclusion at all regarding
Nyikos from this message alone, since it contains none of Nyikos'
words.

>It seems like Mr. Nyikos point was overlooked.  

And how would you know this, "from this message alone"?

> Don't waste my time asking me who I am to use
>the "W" word because it really doesn't matter who I am.

Aaaaaah, don't underestimate yourself.  The net has a very long 
memory.  Would you perhaps be the one who appeared for a few
posts about a year ago, demanding that pro-choice advocates 
immediately begin a letter-writing campaign demanding that a
live abortion be shown on network television?  When pro-choicers
replied that we had no interest in seeing surgery on tv, would
you be the one who screamed "HYPOCRITES!" and disappeared?

>As for requiring fathers to support the lives of their children through
>kidney donorship, etc., as a new father-to-be, I feel that any man worthy
>to be called a man, should have the love and courage to do this for his
>children if necessary.  If there is a law up for the vote requiring this,
>I'll vote for it, too.  It does not make sense for us to demand more
>responsible behavior from someone else than we demand of ourselves.

Interesting.  So I expect you'll demand that pro-"life"rs 
immediately begin a letter-writing campaign demanding that
such a bill be passed by Congress?

>On a slightly different note, did any of you see the Bailey for Congress
>advertisements on T.V.--the ones with the explicit color showing of aborted
>children?  Did any of you see the interview between Bailey and two others
>on CNN?  One man was suing because he felt this was inappropriate for the
>viewing of children, and humorously, he fed back the same arguement the
>liberals have used--"you can turn off the T.V. if you don't like it."

>Questions came out like, "Why are you singling out the Bailey campaign while
>you support gore on every other show on T.V.?"  Much waffling took place in
>reply.  A strongly pro-choice woman expressed anger saying that this was all
>inaccurate and that a one-inch fetus was blown up across the whole screen?
>Baily didn't say this, but I began to wonder if she had expected the network
>to shrink the screen...Bailey basically reaffirmed that these were real
>products of abortion.  What was on the screen in living color could not be
>refuted.  It was there for everyone to see.

Will you now demand that advocates of national health insurance run
commercials showing the corpses of those who died from debilitating
diseases such as cancer because treatement wasn't available to them?

You seem to have an intense interest in showing blood and gore.

>Hey, if there are murderous people involved who would want to hide the truth,
>then we can expect as a natural result that they would raise a stink and lie
>and cheat the public and hide facts, cloud issues, etc., to keep the truth
>from coming out.  This is a natural course of events.

Will you now demand that we see Iraqi civilians on tv that are dead
as a result of US bombings, or are you just trying to hide the
truth about war?

>Let's just turn on the lights for a change.  If sparks fly back our direction,
>if the opposition counters, and there's a chink in the armor of our side, then
>let that be exposed, too.  But, let's get used to the truth.  Let's start
>questioning authority in a sense.  Let's have a little courage.  Take a risk.
>Be honest with the public.  This is the real purpose of freedom of speech
>and freedom of the press.

When will you be posting those GIFs of Iraqi neighborhoods that were
bombed by the US?  If you supported the war and DON'T publicize such
pictures, you would be a hypocrite by the standards of some here.

                    -rocker

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