From: deguc@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Deguc)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: George Bush pardons criminals
Date: 6 Jan 1993 17:00:37 GMT
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In article 19978@romulus.rutgers.edu, kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes:
> In article <1id686INNicv@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> deguc@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Deguc) writes:
> 
> > From whom did Mr. North receive this gift?
> 
> If you will review the relevant press accounts of the affair, I'm sure
> that you will be able to find the answer to this yourself without too
> much effort.
> 
> > From where did the monies come from?
> 
> Where, indeed?

Wow!  Answering a question with another question!  You must be the most
feared debator in all of Rutgers.  The point that I'm trying to make here
is that the monies came via the profits of the arm sales.  These monies
were/are the property of the US government.  If North didn't know where
the money came from he is a bigger idiot than you claim me to be.

> 
> > If you would like me to get *my* facts straight, please feel free to
> > help me "straighten" them out.
> 
> Because, apparently, you are unable to do so all by yourself.

Ditto for you too!! (aka I know you are but what am I)  Again I salute
your debating style.  I was accused of not having facts that someone
else apparently possessed.  I was merely asking him to post them.  You
got a problem with that?  Remember I did the same thing with your slander
of James Carivale(sp).  But then, as now, you don't provide the facts.


> 
> > If you have facts, please post them.
> 
> Because, obviously, you are completely bereft of facts.

Gee, I can make the same claim as YOU.  But that doesn't *prove* anything.
Again, I asked for the facts.  Don't you or the the person I was responding
to (Al Thompson?) have them?

> 
> > But please post *all* the facts ie: if he was given this security
> > system, by whom did he receive it?  Where did the money come from?
> > etc etc.
> 
> I would urge you to acquaint yourself with a particular type of
> institution within our society known as a "library". 

I am very aware of libraries thank you very much.  I am concerned here with
facts!!  I was told to get my facts straight.  The implication in that is
that someone already is in possession of facts that contradict my statements.
I simply have asked for these facts.  You respond with a look 'em up yourself
answer.  Great debating skills.  Someone claims to have facts but won't 
produce them.


> It is a
> repository of knowledge where answers to these kinds of questions are
> to be found without having to depend upon others to provide them for
> you.

I only wanted someone (that implied that they possessed facts) to produce
them.  This is to be expected in debates.  If you claim something to be
a fact, you should be prepared to back it up.  *My* facts come from North's
testimony before Congress.  They are his own words.  I have at least provided
an area for someone to verify my statements (one that is smaller than the
entire contents of a library).  If making condecending remarks like the one
above is the best you can do Ted, maybe you should take some debate class
while you're at Rutgers :^D.
 
> 
> > Please enlighten me.......
> 
> Enlighten yourself, you idiot.


More snappy come backs....  I am still in awe!!




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