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From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: ORCA/Debugger ordering info
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:07:44 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

I seem to have thrown away Resource Central's July catalog, and I really
don't want to (unless I have to) wait for the September catalog. So,
please, if anybody has the price and catalog# of ORCA/Debugger from
Resource Central, could you tell me it?
Thanks.

(What's the rush? Well, life is short, you know.. more importantly, it
might be that it will not be listed in the September catalog either.)
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From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (SPECTOR.E)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple 3.5 drive
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:54:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <uerics.711656886@mcl>, uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes...
>What kinds of noises were you getting??  I have nasty grinding noises coming
>from inside my drive, and I'm wondering if they're related.
> 
>- Eric S.

  Exactly that. A sort of faint grinding sound! Perhaps your drive head's
metal ID/shield plate is loose like mine was... If that's so, it should 
eventually pop out one day when you eject a 3.5 disk.

How long has it been making that grinding sound? Mine only lasted a few
hours before the plate fell out.

>Eric D. Shepherd     | ACM Member | Apple II Alliance Charter Member | 
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Mitchell Spector
Concordia University
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
From: jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.sys.newton(was RFD: alt.apple.newton
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:58:56 GMT
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things

In article <m0mCobN-0000BcC@crash.cts.com> kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
>> From: fry@tara.harvard.edu (David Fry)
>> I also want to point out that Newton is an Apple-owned trademark and
>> PDA is not, so I think they're quite serious about calling it Newton
>> and I think other companies will use the term PDA for their own.
>
>Since Nabisco has held that name as a trademark for over 100 years, I sort of
>doubt that Apple was able to get it throught the Patent and Trademark office.

I "sort of doubt" that Apple hasn't thought of this.  I think it's quite
likely that they negotiated some sort of deal with Nabisco.  After all, the
word "Macintosh" was also the trademark of another company (a maker of
high-end stereo equipment).  Apple simply paid them for the rights to use
the term, and eventually bought the trademark outright.


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From: pfmj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: FORSALE:COPYIIPLUS by CENTRAL POINT
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:23:47 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University


I have Copy II Plus by Central Point that i need to sell. It has the original
manual and disk.
It has never been used and is in perfect condition.
I am asking $18 OBO.
Thanks,
Seenu
From: tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org (T. Mike Howeth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Bilestoad
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:05:05 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Sorry to disappoint you, but the emulator I have DOES run 65[C]02 code on
a PC-type machine.  If I can locate it, I'll post more info.

tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: KFest: MS-DOS FST in the works
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:43:36 GMT

Hi Eric, while on the topic of System 6.0, I'd like to request your help
in asking Burger Bill to PLEASE add MIDI IN/THRU/OUT ports for the
Avatar.  Sorry for budging in here but I can't post a personal mail to
you.

- DOTW - :)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bbs.brennan@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Brennan Pang)
Subject: HELP!!!  Excalibur //e card
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:14:47 GMT

I have an Excalibur //e card copyright 1982.  It says Saavy board on it 
and appears to be some sort of accelerator(my best guess).  The chip 
numbers are rubbed off, so I can't really tell.   Can anyone give me 
information on this card?

Thanks!

Brennan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: pro-apa.cts.com!bkogawa (Bryan Ogawa)
Subject: Re: SoniqTracker .52 & ModZap .80
Organization: AppleWorks Programmers' Association - (213) 463-9289 300-1200-2400
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:58:33 GMT

I have blade runner, and it seems to confuse both of them for me , too.
I'm going to see if NoiseTracker will do it...apparently not...I don't
know, my version may be corrupted or something (of bladerunner, not NT, MZ,
or ST)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on Apple II preservation project (GEnie)
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:46:17 GMT

Picked this up from GEnie...
-------------------------------------start-------------------------------------
Contact:       Timothy Tobin                        July 24, 1992
Phone:         (310)  813-5697
GEnie E-Mail:  A2.TIM (Preferred contact)
 
                       For Immediate Release
 
         GENIE FIGHTS TO PRESERVE CLASSIC APPLE II SOFTWARE
 
 
General Electric Information Service (GEnie) is preserving
discontinued commercial Apple II software by persuading authors to
allow archiving of their programs and by re-releasing some programs as
Shareware or Freeware, or arranging for software to be placed in the
Public Domain.
 
GEnie's Lost Classics project will make copies of participating Apple
II software available in GEnie's A2 Roundtable and release source
codes in the A2Pro Roundtable for preservation and updating purposes.
Dean Esmay, GEnie's Apple II Roundtable manager said, "The Apple II's
effect on modern computing has changed the way an entire generation
thinks and acts.  We are not about to let that pass into oblivion."
 
The following are the primary goals of this effort:
 
o     Find and preserve Classic Apple II software including
      source code, whenever possible, in order to prevent
      inadvertent loss due to accident or misplacement. These
      will be stored as electronically compressed archives on
      optical disk cartridges.
 
o     Provide access to commercial software titles which have
      otherwise become unavailable.
 
o     Provide a center for dated software in need of updating
      to remain compatible with modern Apple II hardware and
      system software.  This may include contracting with
      third-party programmers.
 
GEnie seeks to enlist the help of both the Apple II user and
programmer communities in locating copyright owners and helping to
preserve Apple II Lost Classics.  For further information, modem users
may visit the A2 Roundtable on GEnie or send GEnie E-mail to A2.HELP.
 
A2 is the Apple II Users Roundtable on GEnie and A2Pro is GEnie's
Apple II Programmers and Developers Roundtable.
 
Shareware, Freeware and Public Domain software may be freely copied by
the public.  These have become popular alternatives to traditional
software publishing.  In the case of Shareware, a user is honor-bound
to mail a specified payment to the author should the customer continue
using it after a free trial period.
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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: KFest: MS-DOS FST in the works
Keywords: MS-DOS FST
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:12:42 GMT

According to a KFest update posted on AOL by an attendee, Apple has announced
that it is in fact working on an MS-DOS FST.  It is currently read-only,
but they hope to add write capabilities to it.  It _may_ be included, in
some form (possibly still read-only) with the System 6.0.1 release late
this year.

System 6.0.1 will include minor bug fixes primarily.  Major revisions will
include support for the Ethernet card, which will be released with System
6.0.1.  Also, hot-keys for Finder windows will be added.

If anybody out there is an attendee, comments are welcome! :)

- Eric S.

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From: sequent!ocsqnt!ofa123.fidonet.org!Shawn.Ledbetter@uunet.UU.NET (Shawn Ledbetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Test
Date: 28 Jul 1992 02:05:27 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway

 
Test, please ignore.
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From: bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: FLAGRANT SOFTWARE PIRACY ALERT!!!!! (mabye)
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:01:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


YCSK907@LSUVM.BITNET (Mark Orr) writes:

>Now I don't want to go accusing people of things that I cannot myself
>verify...but as I was perusing some FTP sites I came upon this shocking
>sight in the /pub/nyet/apl2em directory of tybalt.caltech.edu:
>(i.e. the PC-based Apple II emulator directory)

[list of very obviously pirated software deleted]

>What are all these .zoo and .zip files???? Are they Apple II games stored
>in a public FTP site in a PC compressed format...If so, wouldn't that count
>as FLAGRANT SOFTWARE PIRACY??? Surely If those files are Apple II 'wares
>then their presence on an FTP site is slightly less than legal.

Indeed.  I have called Todd Whitesel (who runs the apple2/ directory
at tybalt).  He has no authority over this nyet/ directory, and has no
knowledge as to who put it there.  From reading the README file 
in that directory, it seems like the files -might- have been put up
there without the owner's knowledge.

In any event, Todd won't be back on-line until Tuesday at the earliest.
He suggests anyone who is interested in persuing this send inquiry to 
root@tybalt.caltech.edu. 

>Please tell me if I am wrong (I know you will :-> ) But what else could
>they be??

Sorry, you don't seem to be wrong.  Although, I have not verified that the 
archives are indeed pirated apple 2 disk images, as I don't have a PC to
unpack them on.  Then again, maybe it would be a good idea to unpack one
and see if they indeed are pirated files.  I'd say it's fairly obvious what
they are however, considering they are in the same directory as a PC 
apple2 emulator (which is perfectly legit, as far as I know - it's just the
disk images that are un-kosher).

>| Mark Orr                   
>| ycsk907 @ lsuvm.sncc.lsu.edu |  
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From: TEFFTA@TSENGR.dnet.ge.com (Andrew Tefft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PS to mousetext & hyperc
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:58:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Ah, yes, the cursor seems to be the problem.

I've been using just a "cursor(y,x)" in my test program for now (as the
mouse pointer) because it's extremely simple to code, and I've noticed
that it obliterates mousetext as it goes across it.

This also fits with the cr problem, since hyperc might perform a newline
by first restoring the cursor to the leftmost column, which would obliterate
the first mousetext character, and then moving down one column.

Just to throw a monkey wrench into the works, if I print mousetext in col. 0,
then, with mousetext turned off, print an inverse capital in column 1
of the next line, that inverse capital gets printed in mousetext.

Well, this is no longer a problem I guess, at least now that I'm pretty
sure of the cause.

The next obvious question is "how can I tell if a character on the screen
is mousetext?" 

One would need this if they were going to print a pointer-type mouse cursor,
since they would need to restore the character they obliterated after moving
the pointer, and mousetext would probably be used in such displays.

It seems that there must be some way to preserve the mousetext-ness of
characters on the screen, since mousetext stays mousetext when the screen
scrolls... so there must also be some way to query the mousetext-ness
of a character on the screen, too, no?
From: wrh@PHYSICS.WM.EDU (William Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Trying to reach "Seenu"
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:25:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Can anyone help me reach Seenu (pfmj@uunet.uu.net)?  I get a "user unknown"
error with returned mail when I try to e-mail to that address.
-- 
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                 |  hall@wmheg.physics.wm.edu  |  Department of Physics
                 |  wrhall@wmvm1.cc.wm.edu     |  Williamsburg, VA  23187-8795
From: johnf@gnh-digibits.cts.com (John Fulton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:      a hint about sticky keyboards
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:16:48 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

> 
> A hint to those who think their GS keyboards are starting to wear out.
> Mine was starting to have problems:  some keys (notably 'e') sticking,
> others barely working.  I thought I'd open it up and see how hard fixing
> the individual keys would be.  (It doesn't look like something I'd want
> to undertake.)  It turned out the thing was plumb full of dust (in my
> case, a lot of it being cat hair -- we have three of them.)  A few
> vigorous minutes with a vacuum and its working almost as good as new.
> (I doubt that unless one had a VERY STRONG vacuum one could clean it out
> without opening it up.)
> 
    Another reason to buy one of those plastic keyboard covers.  I've bought
two -- one for my no-longer-used GS keyboard, and one for the Mac II
(IBM-style) keyboard I now use on my GS.  The membrane, which you 
really can't detect when using, not only protects against dust, it also
protects against coffee, colas, cigarette ashes, kids' crayon shavings --
whatever.  You can even wash the keyboard in the sink, as long as the water 
runs off the top and DOESN'T get into vents/holes on the bottom.
    Over the years, I've see lots of keyboards ruined or temporarily disabled
by colas and dandruff (yep, human-stuff) and even paperclips.  The $20 to $40
for a membrane-type cover is money well spent.
From: jmc@engrserver.uark.edu (John Carmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Help needed with Anchor Signalman modem
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:49:56 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas

I have an old Signalman Mark I RS-232 modem made by Anchor Automation (remember
those old things?  I figured this would be the best place to post this Q 
considering how many there are in this group that would remember those days).
Anyway, when I bought my Kaypro II, the modem came as part of the package from
the dealer, but it came with NO INSTRUCTIONS.  Needless to say, I never could
get it up and running, so I stuffed it back into the closet.  Now I'm interested
in getting the thing up and running again, but I don't have the foggiest idea 
how to use it.  It just has a voice/data switch on it and a Handset and Telset
phone line plug set.  I've recently come across ads for this creature in OLD 
OLD Compute! magazines talking about its automatic answer/originate switching, 
etc., but I don't know how to get the thing going regardless.  Anyone 
familiar with the thing?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please Email me at jmc@engr.uark.edu

Thanks!
John Carmack
From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: synthLAB sequences
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:54:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  Does anyone know of an FTP site which carries synthLAB music sequences..?
I'm also looking for a program called "MidiMate" which is supposed to be
able to convert MIDI files into synthLAB sequences.

Mitchell Spector
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jcrane@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Crane)
Subject: Help: Converting Mac FOnts
Organization: California State University, Chico
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:26:51 GMT

Hello everyone !! 

Can someone remind me of the name of the program that makes it possible 
to extract mac fonts from a macsuitcase file ?

thank you 


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From: foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: High-Speed Help Needed
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:48:07 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

The difficulties with a high speed modem are common, but it's not the 
GS's fault.  First off, you HAVE to have a cable with CTS/RTS handshaking
capability.  (I.E.  The CTS and RTS lines must be properly connected between
modem and computer.)  This is something which typically was not necessary or
required by your old 2400. 
 
Next, you have to verify that the settings on the modem match what your 
hardware is trying to do.  If handshaking is properly enabled, most new
high speed modems have an option which reports the highest throughput
rate as the connect rate so that the computer won't slow down to the 
connect rate.  Since you say you can log on and see the text sent to you
but not receive anything echoed back then that doesn't sound like the 
problem.  I haven't tried using my 14.4k modem with Proterm 2.2, so I can't
tell if there's a program problem there, but there shouldn't be.  I DID 
discover that on my //e, I had to swap out ACIA chips (the heart of the 
SSC) until I found one that handled the RTS-CTS handshaking right..  For
some reason there was a problem with it thinking CTS had changed whenever 
you (ie the software) changed RTS!

If you can see what the BBS you connect to is sending, but can't see what
you are typing, that sounds like nothing so much as just a duplex problem.
Is the BBS you're calling supposed to be echoing your input, or should you
have your term software set at half duplex?  In command mode, your modem 
should have a setting for whether or not it echoes the commands back to you.
Also, I discovered (through a rather painful two weeks, no thanks to the 
tech support from the mfr.) that RTS is ignored in command mode!  But again,
that shouldn't be causing your problem.  

Well, if this doesn't help you, hopefully it will help anyone else out there
who's having other problems.

Good luck!
Michael Foegelle

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From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: 80 column screen quality
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:12:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92202.162602KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>, KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>I have found that white text on a green background gives you the best read-
>ability with the 80 column text screen.  They use white chalk on green chalk
>boards these days right!
>Ken

  Actually the default color settings in the control panel are -almost- close 
to something readable. Apple has the 'standard' set to white text with medium
blue, but I found white text with dark blue gives a nice look.

Speaking of 80-columns text, I prefer the text display on my IIgs than to
what's available on my (gak!) Messy-DOS machine in 80-columns text.
Although certain characters could look better on the Apple II display.

An example would be these characters --> "wmWM"

Mitchell Spector
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
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From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:32:14 GMT

cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand) writes:
: Ok, folks: I just spent over half an hour searching articles that deal
: with moderating c.b.a2. I did NOT find reasons for not moderating except
: for two, which where stated by Amrit. So, please stop claiming
: otherwise.

: To repeat those 2: 
: 	o moderation isn't 100% effective
: 	o it slows down posting.
: Pretty weak.

Ok, well I just did my own _real_ research, and I'm talking from a much more
informed viewpoint.  First of all, I haven't see much from you execpt these
few complaints you have about those that don't favor moderation...matter of 
fact, you haven't posted to this group at all since this issue become a part
of it.

Tell me something...did you see a post that explained how the IBM moderated
group is _dead_?  Do you not think this a valid reason for _not_ having
moderation here for cba2?  Sure, I can believe Jawaid will do a good a job
as he _can_ and I also understand all the rationale...but it still doesn't
give me an assurance I need for this issue.

You guys are all pumped up for this moderation thing...but it's like with a kid
who get really excited about something, gets involved to the maximum with it,
and then later it just fizzles out.  I remember back when I wanted to get into
tennis, I got my father to get me a racket, spend tons of money on the lessons,
and then I just gave it up...there is a danger of this happening...

So, tell me Tero, why is this not a compelling reason, and why didn't you
mention it?  You seemed to have missed one very important point, and now I 
can only come to the conclusion that you really don't know what you're talking
about.

: -Tero Sand

Amrit
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