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From: lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: ObEndlessSpotting (Was Re: Do we need a rec.arts.comics.sandman?
Organization: Ritzy Squids of Mayfair
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:00:06 GMT

In <Bz7yJ7.5BD@cs.dal.ca> castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE) writes:

>In article <lsmith.724037823@peca>, lsmith@peca.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:

>|> ObEndlessSpotting: There is a publicity still for London Kills Me (think
>|> I have the title right) that had two actors that sorta reminded me of Dream 
>|> and Death. Anyone seen this?

>Now that you mention it, the main actress reminded me of
>Thessaly (slightly weird look, floppy clothes)

Hmmm, this is probably the one that I thought looked like Death. At least 
a little like the way McManus drew Death with a fuller face.

The problem is that the result of still photography is often a convincing
fiction with little to do with reality. (I offer my high school graduation
picture as proof.)

Anyway, the actress's name is Ever McCourt.

>I still have this weird feeling that Thessaly will suddenly
>be chosen as a replacement for Delusion.

Delusion? Is this one of the semi-Endless? 

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:48:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.214845.20610@netcom.com>, solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
> 
> Page 22: We've never seen Nyx before, but I (for one) wouldn't mind
> seeing her again. (Preferably in that other Foglio book.)

Actually, she HAS appeared elsewhere, looking pretty much like she would
in *that* other Foglio book.  It was in one of the AMAZING HEROES SWIMSUIT
SPECIALS...

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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Justice League new lineup?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 06:39:55 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <5083@equinox.unr.edu> efox@unssun.UUCP (Eric Fox) writes:
>Anyhoo, IMHO, the JL has been going downhill ever since Maguire left and the
>"Breakdowns" crap...
Breakdowns was, IMHO, the best multi-part, multi-title story I've ever read.
It also established greater continuity between JLA and JLE.  So, no, Break-
downs was not crap.

What followed it, tho...

	--MikE....you get the picture.


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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: The Prolific Gerard Jones (was Re: DC should change its name)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:01:59 GMT

In article <tal691.724299147@huxley>, tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
> 
> >Not to mention the translations (excuse me, adaptations) of Viz Comics'
> >RANMA 1/2.  (No wonder they suck...)
> 
> OOOOOOOOh!  The Ranma 0.5 adaptations do not suck.  They are good, very good,
> on par with the Bell and Hockridge translations of _Asterix_.  I am amazed
> that he can come up with jokes that are untranslatable in the original
> Japanese....

Let me put it this way...

	Of all the possible translations of the word "baka" I can think of,
	"bufoon" would be the one I'd chosen last...

(Although I liked his adaptation of the "bad cut" pun in issue #7.  ^_^)

Let's move this to rec.arts.manga, shall we?
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From: jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Favorite Artists?
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:29:22 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Keywords: 

My list:

John Byrne (will always be the most talented)
Frank Miller (for mood and use of shadows)
Jim Lee
Rob Liefeld (this is not an invitation to flame)
Kevin Maguire (sp?)(his expressions are the best)
Whilce Portacio


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From: hlow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Handel Low)
Subject: Re: I'm bored - gimme something to read
Organization: People's Equality Army
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 01:01:14 EST


	I read different stuff from time to time...sometimes
follow authors around...

Doom Patrol --but now that Morrison's leaving...(?)
Sandman --pretty good in general
Animal Man --seems to have taken a turn for the better
	storywise now that writers have changed (my opinion)
Hate --Fantagraphics, Peter Bagge's slacker epic
Milk and Cheese --and whatever Evan Dorkin does, wherever
	it appears
Tank Girl --my copies have been been stolen (heartbroken)
Deadline --UK import that covers lame bands but has
	nice graphics and some good comics

And Dark Horse puts out good limited series stuffs
from time to time...

I'm busy now so I'm off.  Later.


handel
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From: musgse@meaddata.com (Steve Musgrave)
Subject: John Byrne's Stint on Fantastic Four
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:37:06 GMT
Distribution: usa

Can anyone tell me what Fantastic Four issues 
John Byrne worked on?
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From: krupski@ravel.udel.edu (James John Krupski)
Subject: Re: Spiderman Classic???????
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:23:32 GMT

In article <Bz0ICE.Hz7@news.ucs.mun.ca> glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke) writes:
>	As another follow-up-er said, this is a (another) reprint title
>that will reprint Amazing Spider-Man, from #1 on, with Amazing Fantasy
>#15 as the first issue (shipping in February).  I have to ask: Is there
>a need for this?  AM #15 and the first couple dozen ASM issues have been
>reprinted in Marvel Tales, Marvel Masterworks Hardcover (several
>printings), and also Masterworks paper-back.  Also, AF #15 and ASM #1
>are reprinted as Milestone Editions, with original ads and editorial
>pages.  Do they think this will sell?
>	I agree, though, that if they're going to do this one more time,
>they might as well include all the original junk (ads and editorials).  
>Maybe new covers by current artists would be a nice idea, though.

Doesn't matter, as long as they reproduce the original covers inside or on the
back or something.  The editorials, too, lend an insight into a more primitive
time.  ]B-1  But the ads in the Marvel Milestones are kind of irritating.
Then again, I find modern ads irritating too.  That's just me.

You can BET that it will sell.  (At least as far as #38 when the Ditko run 
ends (plug, plug).  Marvel Tales was too long ago for this really old stuff.
The Masterworks paperback only covers ~5 issues.  And the Masterworks 
hardcovers are heinous expensive.  I've been tearing my hair out, trying to 
figure out how to present this material to my nephews (too young to read yet,
but one must plan ahead).  .-|  This is the perfect solution.  And both my
sister and my sister-in-law are pregnant -- not to mention any possible 
offspring of my own.  I might be getting as many as ten copies apiece.

Speaking of the Ditko Spider-man issues, has anyone noticed how some plots are
really sensible and with well-crafted artwork, and some seem really rushed?
Yes, you can say that about almost any book, but in this book they seem to 
alternate regularly every month, then later in the series, every two months.
This is my chance to "edit out" those stories that I thought were cheesy when
I read them in the Masterworks.  I'll probably skip #37 and #38 for instance,
ending with #36 - the Master Planner saga. 
	Well.  The run starts in February.  That's when I'll post my picks
of What Was Well Done And Mostly Conceived By Ditko, and What Was Hurried
And Mostly Conceived By Stan.   See you Spider-fans then.

			-Slippery Jim
From: mickey@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Mickey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: MARVEL: To Be an Elder of the Universe (was Re: How Many Mutants?)
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:59:16 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1gntctINN76@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>
>I'm not too sure about this...
>To be an Elder, you have to live on Cosmic Energy, like the Surfer, kinda.
>You also have to have been around since the beginning of the universe, and
>have a single all-encompassing devotion to *one* hobby (astronomy, collecting,
>etc.).  Basically, you have to outlive your race by sheer willpower.  It really
>wouldn't make too much sense to _make_ an elder.  It's kind of like someone
>trying to become a Watcher, or Galactus.

Well, this could be argued somewhat.  We know that the main circle of
Elders all have some monomania, except perhaps Ego (what could a living
planet want to do with its life in such a manner?).  However, the
Surfer successfully stopped the Obliterator from destroying Zenn-La by
arguing that the genocide of his people would make the Surfer an Elder
of the Universe as well.

Of course, the Obliterator didn't seem too bright....

Mick


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From: vince@saguaro.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Wet Harbinger #0
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:24:53 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin


I finally received my 2 copies of Harbinger #0 yesterday.
However, one-third of the cardboard mailer it was delivered in
was wet. A friend of mine(who lives in another neighborhood with
another post office) had his #0's delivered in the exact same
condition.

Did anyone else have this problem? I have learned, never cut
coupons from comics. Now I have two worthless and wet copies
of Harbinger 0. Oh joy.

Vince Layton
vince@austin.ibm.com
layton@cactus.org
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Sunday, 20 Dec 1992 13:43:06 EST
From: <IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: COMIC KEEPER for MACINTOSH: UPDATE

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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Empire of Vitriol (was: Why is PAD on the net?)
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:38:17 GMT

In <71830@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:

>I once had a few fellow pros over at my house, and I mentioned Usenet to
>them.  They were interested in seeing it.  So I logged on and started
>running through various headers.  Naturally the people involved wanted
>to read about those headers that applied directly to their own work.
>
>The threads were, almost uniformly, vicious, sniping, mean-spirited and
>arrogant.  

Yes, but we all had rotten childhoods.

The moral is: anarchy and/or a forum for the great unwashed is never pretty.
God bless Mommy and Daddy and the guy who invented KILL files.

                           "One can see [this] even more readily when one
                            realizes that the average Usenet poster would
                            stereotype and then pass moral judgement on
                            intestinal larvae, given the opportunity --
                            particularly if they were under the impression
                            that said grubs were male or female."
                                           -- moi

                                        Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
INTERNET:     moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
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From: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: DC: The Dark (was Re: Sandman, Hellblazer, and Hell
Reply-To: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:05:11 GMT


 mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire) writes:

|> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
|> >Well, I e-mailed Jaques with my version of this answer, and
|> >didn't think to post it, so here's my bit for the net.  From what
|> >I understand from the recent Hellblazer issues, Satan is the 
|> >ther other side of the coin to God.  He was already in Hell when
|> >the Morningstar fell.  Hell had to exist, becasue Heaven needs a shadow.
|> 
|> Wrong. Read old Swamp Thing issues written by Alan Moore. The Dark is
|> God's shadow, the reverse side of Himself. He could not exist without
|> the Dark and vice versa. The Dark is much more powerful than anyone
|> including Lucifer.

How can you folks be discussing the "Dark" from American Gothic and not even
*try* to spoil what *really* happenned?



After the Dark goes on it's little rampage taking out various DC super-mystics
(including the Spectre) it learns from Swamp Thing that there is much more to
existence than black and white, good and evil, light and dark. So the Dark and
the Light join. Cain and Abel then make some comment about how this is going to
change all the stories, now that there is no clear-cut good and evil anymore,
which (IMHO) was Alan Moore winking to the audience about the future of
comic books.

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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Favorite Artists?
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 04:38:51 GMT

Here's my list:

BILL SIENKIEWICZ:  Most of his stuff is just all-around phenomenal.  Dave
McKean is a carbon-copy without the soul put into Bill's stuff (not that I
don't like McKean as well).  His _Stray Toasters_ is a masterwork.  About the
only thing of his I've been disappointed with was his recent Wolverine Annual.

MIKE MIGNOLA:  This man is a master of panel design and shading.  His 
splash pages and cover shots are superb, but he's a little disappointing
when he does a full book.

DAVE SIM:  'Nuff said.

DAVE GIBBONS:  One fo the best artists around when it comes to conveying
emotion.

JAMIE HEWLETT:  Wugga wugga!  Inspired, twisted, colourful...I'll include
SIMON BOND here as well as they have similar styles.

SCOTT SAAVEDRA:  One of the best cartoonists in the biz.  Simple, no-nonsense
line drawing which serves to convey the humour of Dr. Radium perfectly.

MATT HOWARTH:  A brilliant multi-media kind of artist with a unique style.
Particularly effective is his lettering.

WALT SIMONSON:  Classic stuff that gets better year after year.

And also:

FRANK MILLER		GEOF DARROW		JOHN BYRNE
GEORGE PEREZ		JIM APARO		BILL WILLINGHAM
JACKSON GUICE		JAMES SHERMAN		MIKE LEEKE

Now, a short list of artists I HATE:

ROB LIEFELD	 	TODD MCFARLANE		JIM VALENTINO
STEVE DITKO		DON HECK		PACELLA & PANOSIAN
NORM BREYFOGLE		CURT SWAN		JOE STATON
MARK BRIGHT		RON FRENZ		

Neither list is complete, of course.


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Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
-------
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LNH: How to join the LNH by someone who knows!
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:28:54 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec16.192309.62123@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>	4)  Do something tasteless!  The LNH has a simple moral base under
>which few things are really tasteless, however we do have our limits.  Although
>it is now only LNH legend mention is made to the Integrity Questors and the 
>"Woody Scandal!"  One of the few times the LNH has come together to say,
>"Whoa!!"  

Well, not ALL the LNH.  Obscure Trivia Lad still has NO idea what this
thing was.  (Obscure Trivia Lad has given up all hope of EVER getting
alt.comics.lnh at this point).

Obscure Trivia Lad, LNH Elder (and proud of it!)

-- 
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"I wanna decide who lives and who dies"
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Subject: Re: Image Splits Up (was McFarlane has come a long way )
From: <CM26ACCW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 23:19:58 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Sure they have big egos, but is anyone else out there a little skeptical
of this rumor.  I don't buy it, I think these guys will try to build up
Image.  They don't seem all that exclusive these days as they seem to
be adding titles as quickly as the Big Two.

Any word yet on the validity of this rumor?
From: ce547@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kurt M. Wilcken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC AIDS PSAs
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:42:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce547@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kurt M. Wilcken)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) says:

>In the last several weeks, DC has done a number of one-page public
>service ads about AIDS featuring various DC heroes.  These have
>appeared in both DC comics and in other Time/Warner magazines (I first
>saw them in Entertainment Weekly)  So far I've seen:
>Robin and Alfred, as drawn by the Robin miniseries people,
>John Stewart, as drawn by Pat Broderick,
>Flash--who drew this one??
>	Any others that I've missed?
>
     There's also one with Booster, Beetle and Green Flame.  (Okay,
she's Fire now, but she'll always be Green Flame to me)  I don't know
off-hand who drew it, but it was well-drawn.


-- 
"All the World's A Stage and Everyone's a Critic"
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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: What to read other than SANDMAN
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:06:58 GMT

mhigh@nyx.cs.du.edu (Matthew High) writes:

>Also recommended: HEPCATS.  But what else is new? :-)
>  (I'll try to get a new update on Hepcats soon.  I hope.  Time 
>   willing...)

I second the recommendation though I am not sure that it 
would appeal to Sandman readers. While it is a very high
quality and interesting book it is very different. It was
somebody on the net that recommended Hepcats to me. Thank
you to whoever that was. Another very good title is
Usagi Yojimbo although again it might not appeal to a
reader of Sandman.

Jed
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From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Subject: Re: Egyptian Gods and Comics (was Re: ANIA Statement...)
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:06:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.054033.25214@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:

|> 	_The Cartoon History of the Universe_ (by Larry Gonick) Volume 3
|> Actually, the series as a
|> whole is a pretty good survey of ancient history for a comic, though
|> to be honest comics aren't really the best medium for history IMHO.

What? ATTTACK!

The Collected "Cartoon History of the Universe" is being
used by a few schools as a supplement for history texts.

Wayne Vasant did some history with "BattleGroup Peiper" and
a comic-docudrama of Pearl Harbour in "Days of Darkness"

Various 'history' comics have encapsulated information, dates
and all the rest  miles better than all my history teachers.
(then again...maybe I just had cruddy teachers)

Yours Sincerely,

//////
 o-o /
 //////

P.S.   My parents would almost fall asleep if they tried to talk to
one of my history teachers.  I wasn't a bad student, he was an
executive they had to talk to.
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From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Subject: Re: Youngblood #0
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:36:06 GMT

In article <Bz3Lu4.6FM@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu) writes:
|> raj@eng.umd.edu (Rajesh Sivarajan) writes:

|> Youngblood #0 comes out TODAY.
|> 
|> Well with the two covers, they did the same with Youngblood #2.
|> Anybody noticed it?  I figured something was strange when
|> I picked up #2 and noticed the next issue was different in some way
|> and I thought that it was another issue or something.

Never mind the cover, what about the story/plot/quality?

Is it comix or vomix ?

(I know Youngblood isn't a comix but I couldn't
pass up the rhyme)

Yours Sincerely,
	Julian Castle

///////
  o-o /  o o Should I break my planned 4-5 years of no
   <  /    comics for Youngblood ?
  /////////

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From: Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev)
Subject: CSN on Return of Superman
Organization: In Effect Enterprises
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:49:10 GMT

Oboy:

This from issue #284 of Comic Shop News, in an article "Superman's Never
Been More Active Than in His Dying Days":

"Will the Man of Steel return? . . .There are a few clues that the event
might occur soon; first, in the Legacy of Superman Special, Waverider 
'wants to go back in time to prevent Superman's death,' according to DC."

Be afraid. . .be Very afraid. . .

Kevvy Kev
"Doomsday exudes an "idiot field" as his most potent power, which seems
 to be able to reach the writers as well."
  -Michael Lee Jacobs
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