HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mikel@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael G. Lohmeyer)
Newsgroups: ca.driving
Subject: Re: Registering a used car with expired plates - suggestions please
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:33:12 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <182usnINN5h5@agate.berkeley.edu> jmn@crown.berkeley.edu (J. Mark Noworolski) writes:
>
>Thanks for all the advice on this. From the looks of it now....
>	I am hosed.
>
>(I bought the car for $100 basically as a favour so I can't ask them
>to pay the back registration)

     I missed the beginning of this thread, but in case someone else didn't
say it, if you wait long enough, all records of the vehicle will be erased
from the DMV computers.  If a vehicle has not been registered for about 4
to 8 years, the DMV eventually removes it from the records.  After this
happens,  you can register the vehicle without having to pay penalty fees
because they can't tell how long it has been since it was last registered.

     You can call the DMV and ask them to look up the vehicle over the phone.
They will tell you the fees needed to register the vehicle over the phone,
which includes all penalty fees.  If you call and it isn't in the records 
anymore, they will tell you that, in which case, the car can be registered
without penalties now.

     This whole system is really screwed up isn't it.  If you don't know 
about it, it is real easy to get stuck with a car that you can't afford to
register.  It makes it real easy for someone to sell a car because they can't
afford to register it to someone who doesn't understand the registration
rules.  The buyer is required to pay all of these fees and as far as I know,
there is nothing you can do to get the seller to pay these fees after you
bought the car (short of small claims court perhaps).  BTW- I'm not attacking
the people who sold you the car.  From your description, no one was trying
to do in the other.  I am saying, however, that the buyer must beware when
buying used vehicles.  Make sure the registration is current, and if it is
not, make sure the sell reduces the price by the amount of the penalty
fees (get the actual total of the penalty fees from the DMV before you buy
the vehicle).

Mike
-------------
Mike Lohmeyer				mikel@berlioz.nsc.com
San Jose CA
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Newsgroups: ca.driving
Subject: Re: GUARANTEED method to avoid traffic tickets.
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:21:52 GMT
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <Woopsm.01x@well.sf.ca.us> hugoglez@well.sf.ca.us (Hugo Gonzalez) writes:
>I haven't gotten a ticket in over a year now, although I've been
>pulled over a few times.  My secret?  Pepper gas!  When the cop
[ more absolute nonsense deleted which describes how to get your ass shot off ]

Hugo -

You don't actually expect us to *believe* this, do you?

Cut the shit, and label fantasy as just that - fantasy.

Grow up, son.


kbq

--
Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
From: leem@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Lee Mellinger)
Newsgroups: ca.driving
Subject: Re: Metric signs
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:37:03 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)

In article <5cKD02jR21EU01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> mtb30@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () writes:
:I saw in the newspaper today that the Feds plan to convert road
:signs to metric by 1996.  Did anyone else know about this, or is
:it just me and the Virginians who don't know?  I thought the
:"great metric plan" had been scrapped years ago--I've only seen 3
:metric signs.
:
:mark

A new metrification bill was passed by the Congress in 1988, among
other things, it mandates that all Federal agencies convert to metric
measure by the end of 1992.  Here at JPL we are now conducting classes
for all personnel who need the instruction on the Mertic System.

Lee

"Nothing blasts forever" -- Keats on ammo.

|Lee F. Mellinger                 Caltech/Jet Propulsion Laboratory - NASA
|4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109 818/354-1163  FTS 792-1163     
|leem@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV
Newsgroups: ca.driving
From: leem@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Lee Mellinger)
Subject: Re: Metric signs
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:21:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.183703.10032@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> leem@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Lee Mellinger) writes:
:In article <5cKD02jR21EU01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> mtb30@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () writes:
:Here at JPL we are now conducting classes
:for all personnel who need the instruction on the Mertic System.

Oops!  Make that metric system.  Shows what happens when you are in a
hurry.

:
:Lee
:
:"Nothing blasts forever" -- Keats on ammo.
:
:|Lee F. Mellinger                 Caltech/Jet Propulsion Laboratory - NASA
:|4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109 818/354-1163  FTS 792-1163     
:|leem@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV
From: xin@almaak.usc.edu (Alex X. Zhang)
Newsgroups: ca.driving
Subject: Embacaderro speeding trap
Date: 11 Sep 1992 12:56:26 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu


Embacaderro Street in Palo Alto is indeed a speedtrap.  I got a ticket 
coming from El Camino Real where the speed limit is 45.  I was the only
one driving on the right lane and I was cited going at 41 in a 25 zone.
I know of at least two Stanford students who got speeding tickets along
Embacaderro.  A lady, who drives a jaguar, got 3 tickets at exactly the
same spot on Embacaderro, and, all caught by the same cop!  Even the cop 
was amused when he got her the third time.  

Alex Zhang
Decision Systems, School of Business Administration
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089-1421
(213) 740-0179
From: ryamaguc@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Do the Hustle!)
Newsgroups: ca.driving
Subject: Re: Those expired registrations
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:46:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <92254.41815.Mr_b@lmsc.lockheed.com> Mr_b writes:
>
>Does anything every happen to those cars/drivers that I see driving
>around with expired tags on their CA license plates?

  They might receive a parking ticket if they're unfortunate enough
to be found by parking enforcement.  I was driving around a public
parking lot next to the beach and saw one of these people circling
the lot.  I was wondering why because this lot is free, and there is
no time limit.  They might find some car taking up two spaces or
something, but that's all I could come up with.  Then I saw the guy
giving a ticket to a van parked legally...the tags were expired.
I guess it's easy money for them.
  I was wondering what happens if you get one of these tickets when
the car _is_ registered.  (ie tags stolen or fallen off)  Can you
fight these tickets as long as you show regiatration?

Bob
ryamaguchi@ucsd.edu
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From: robs@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert Sipe)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: Re: WSP radar?  (was: WSP's `cellular listening center')
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:32:57 GMT
Followup-To: seattle.general
Organization: Boeing

>moved to laser speed detectors.  Can anyone confirm?  I was told that they
>can "spot" the laser on a single car in traffic for an undetectable "gotcha".

I have heard/read about these units.  However, they are very easy to fool
with a device that will send out a signal to confuse the speed indicator.





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For those of you who wish to send a clear message to Time-Warner for
promoting Ice-T's Cop Killer song, write to: Geral M Levin, CEO 
                                             75 Rockefeller Plaza
                                             New York, NY 10019 
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: kbeck@cs.washington.edu (Kay Beck)
Subject: APARTMENT FOR RENT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 22:28:23 GMT



Apartments for rent; each available OCTOBER 1


1 bedroom -- hardwood floors, large livingroom and bedroom,
galley kitchen   $575/month

2 bedroom -- hardwood floors, large livingroom and bedrooms,
galley kitchen, french doors to bedroom   $650/month


This includes heat and hot water.  Laundry available in the
building.  Located at about 52nd and University Way; close to
shopping and bus routes to downtown, etc.


Please contact Kay or Matt at 524-2185
	or     Kay at 685-8057 (between 8am-5pm)


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu (Paul Schwartz)
Subject: misc. recomendations
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 07:33:57 GMT

	Unsolicited recomendations for 
		Tile work
		Toilet
		Book

	Tile Work.  We had some tile work done this summer and the person
we had do it was outstanding in every way.  He was knowlegeble, skilled and
ethical.  If you are considering having any work done in the near future I
would recommend him without any reservations.  My only regret is that we hadn't
spoken with him earlier on in the job.
		John Richard
		 telphone 522-9364

	Toilet.	OK so it's not quite normal to wax enthusiastic about a toilet
but it is a major fixture in my daily life and it pleases me to know that some-
thing was designed well.  It's a 1.6 gal toilet that is able to empty liquids
with much less then that.  It works a whole lot better then the 3.5 gal model
it replaced and the monetary payback for it is about two years.  It's made
by Kohler and Aurora Plumbing has had them on sale for about six months.  They
got a good deal on a bunch of them and are passing the savings on.  Their price
is $120

	Book.  It's one of the books in the mold of Jay Gould and 
Lewis Sinclair.  This one is  The Minds Sky by Timmothy Ferris.  He starts
by talking about the search for extraterrestrial intelligent life and 
expands from there.  He talks about the nature of intelligence, the evolution
of intelligence and the duration of intelligent life forms.  They are all
connected to the search via; what is being searched for, what are the 
conditions for it's emergence and what is the window of contact of other 
intelligences.  It's a very far ranging book and he readly acknowleges some
of speculative aspects of it.  It'll give you more to think about than which
TV program provides the American family prototype.

--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Paul Schwartz       pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu


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From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: Re: CD-Rom Mastering in the PNW?
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:11:47 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

In article <1992Sep8.144705.1498@polari> jsanchez@polari.online.com writes:
>You should contact ISOMEDIA in Redmond if you want to get a CD-ROM
>mastered.  They can product one using the JVC setup for about $200 (I
>think).  

... please note - the JVC One-off (or ANY one-off) is not usually called
"mastering."  Mastering usually indicates producing a metal stamper with
which many thousands of CD-ROMs can be produced.  If the intent is to
produce a limited number (usually under 100 or - more usually less than
20) one-off CDs are great!  There are SOME differences between mastered
CDs and one-off CDs although the differences are not USUALLY important.
One difference that MAY be important if you are producing CD-ROMs for
other people is that one-offs don't have silk-screened labels.  If you
order one-offs through a vendor, please ask about their labelling
capabilities.

-- Standard disclaimers: I don't work for any of the above mentioned
companies.  I've just been studying about CDs and looking into one-off
equipment and mastering and replication houses.
-- 
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VanOver@atc.boeing.com
       "Why don't y'all go home?"     Bette Davis in The Little Foxes
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From: donn@brat.wa.com (Donn Pedro)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: WSP radar?  (was: WSP's `cellular listening center')
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:36:15 GMT
Organization: Tandemonium, Kent, WA

In article <3573@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> robs@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert Sipe) writes:
>For those of you who wish to send a clear message to Time-Warner for
>promoting Ice-T's Cop Killer song, write to: Geral M Levin, CEO 
>                                             75 Rockefeller Plaza
>                                             New York, NY 10019 

And right after they recieve Robert's note you can send yours.

But first:

1) read the rolling stone interview with Ice-T.
2) read the first ammendment.
3) read it again.

Then, if you understood, and you value your *right* to
speak, send a note of thanks to Geral M Levin.

Challenging someone's words, and asking that they be silenced
are two different things.

This does recognize that Robert does not say what he would send.
but I defend his right to say what he wishes.


         Donn Pedro ....................a.k.a. donn@brat.wa.com
	
	       "You talk the talk.  Do you walk the walk?"

		    There are no ordinary moments.
From: cretzke@uswnvg.com (Corry Retzke)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: TECHNICS KEYBOARD for sale
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:54:56 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I have a Technics K350 keyboard that I would like to sell.  It's about
five years old, in NEW condition, and needs a good home.  Lots of features
(too many to list), and a righteous price ($350).

Call Corry 206-525-4790 (home; Seattle) or 206-450-8622 (work; Bellevue).
From: robs@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert Sipe)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Ice-T  (was: WSP's `cellular listening center')
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:45:39 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <1228@brat.wa.com> donn@brat.wa.com (Donn Pedro) writes:
.
.
.
>
>This does recognize that Robert does not say what he would send.
>but I defend his right to say what he wishes.
>
>

Thanx Don.  I enjoyed reading your comments and appreciated the 
recognition about defending my view.  My .sig has been on for a while
and I plan to change it soon.  I am just waiting for another controversial
topic to append to my messages.  But consider this, Time-Warner is very
involved with editing, censoring, and refusing to produce music they 
find objectional.  They themselves don't want to offend the liberals,
the feminists, and granola types.  Consumer activism is not censorship, it
is a legal and fair way to apply pressure to an organization in order to
get them to modify their behavior.  I am glad to see they removed Cop Killer
from Ice-T's record.  The police have enough enemies as it is.  Promoting
violence for the sake of making money like this is offensive.






-- 
For those of you who wish to send a clear message to Time-Warner for
promoting Ice-T's Cop Killer song, write to: Geral M Levin, CEO 
                                             75 Rockefeller Plaza
                                             New York, NY 10019 
Newsgroups: seattle.general,seattle.admin
From: guru@halcyon.com (Dennis Wicks)
Subject: Re: My! This seems a bit Unilateral!
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:08:29 GMT

In article <klg.716593193@statsci> klg@statsci.com (Kevin L. Gross) writes:
>del@fnx.uucp (Dag Erik Lindberg) writes:
>
>   No, I have to disagree with you.  Discussion and polls in new group
>   creation are critical in maintaining some semblance of order outside
>   of the alt hierarchy.  Since there is no central authority in Usenet,
>   the only tool we have to maintain this order is peer pressure.
>   
>
>I agree, I was just waiting for someone to say it in a reasonable
>fashion.
>-Kevin L. Gross          klg@statsci.com           Disclaim THIS: 

Sorry, I have to disagree with both of you.  

The results of the last few news.groups votes:

misc. something     failed 90:37
comp. something     failed 81:10
comp. something     passed 249:6
comp. something     passed 261:106
sci.  something     passed 295:20

What is the est. total net readership?  Much larger than
the _total_ votes cast in the above five CFVs.

My point?  Nobody, except for a few net.purists, really 
cares if new groups get created or not!  The net result
of all the discussion and voting that has gone on concerning
the above in the past several months has resulted in two
less groups than there would have been if they had just been
created in the first place!

Also, I would guess, based on the traffic that I have seen
in the past week or two concerning additional seattle
groups, that there has already been proportionately more
discussion than for an international group!

Since the seattle.forsale group already was in existence, at
some sites at least, and has apparently been created at most
of the others by now, I would say that the RFD and CFV
process has been completed, and it passed.  Maybe 6:3!
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: bruceha@microsoft.com (Bruce Hale)
Subject: house for rent
Date: 08 Sep 92 14:33:34 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

Posted for someone else. Please don't send me mail.


HOUSE for RENT
Three bedrooms, two baths, 1.5 miles from Microsoft, just off NE 24th
st. in Bellevue. Two-car garage. Available around September 15.
Call 1-206-222-6267.
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: brothers@mdd.comm.mot.com (Joseph Brothers)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for repair to fireplace
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:32:11 GMT

I have used Chimney Swift and like their service.  Ask for Dan.

In article <1992Sep8.184157.24258@data-io.com> stiehl@Data-IO.COM (Bill Stiehl) writes:
>
>My old fireplace ... needs work.
Any
>recommendations [...]
>
>-- Bill Stiehl
>-- 867-6254
>-- stiehl@Data-IO.COM


-- 
			Joseph L. Brothers			
brothers@mdd.comm.mot.com		uunet!mdisea!brothers	         
	"I am speaking solely for my self, not my employer."
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu (Paul Schwartz)
Subject: making up tests
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 03:49:10 GMT

	Does anybody know of any good sources or information on how to make
up tests in the social sciences or humanities for the community college level.
	If so could you either email to pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu or
call on voice phone at 782-6999.

--
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Paul Schwartz       pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu


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From: delisle@eskimo.celestial.com (Ben Delisle)
Subject: Re: Magazine City
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:41:23 GMT

	There is also the Eastside Daily Planet News in the 
Crossroads Public Market in Bellevue. For those Eastsiders that like to
read, they have a large selection of magazines on all topics.



--
 delisle@eskimo.celestial.com | Nothing is fool-proof, fools are too ingenous.
 
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From: zander@sumax.seattleu.edu (Carol Zander)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: Folk concert (Seattle) -- The Fisher Family
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:21:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.5051
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle, WA

The Seattle Folklore Society welcomes Scotland's most celebrated family
of folk in their first joint tour of the US:

           The Fisher Family ... Archie, Cilla and Ray

The Boston Globe says  "A fixture in the folk music revival of Scotland
not unlike the Clancy family in Ireland or the Seeger family here."

The concert is Saturday, Sept. 19, 8pm at the New Melody Tavern in Ballard
(5213 Ballard Ave. NW).  Tickets are $10 advance and $12 at the door with
a $2 discount for Seattle Folklore Society members and seniors.

Tickets are at Dusty Strings in Fremont, Crossroads Music in Bellevue and
Guitar Emporium in Ballard.  Unpaid reservations (SFS members only) or
VISA/MC charges for all, call the SFS concert line at (206) 528-8523.
From: cretzke@uswnvg.com (Corry Retzke)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: COLEMAN CANOE for sale
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:20:18 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I have a Coleman Canoe, model X-15 that I need to unload.

age: new last April.

features: made of some wonder-polymer with aluminum reinforcing, 
	  15 feet long, two seats, red in color. 

accessories: two aluminum paddles w/plastic blades & handles,
	     two o.d. green zip-up float vests,
	     four foam gunnel pads (for car-top transport),
	     four tie-down straps  (ditto).

price: $275

interested?  Call Corry @525-4790 (home).
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: Magazine City
Keywords: [Magazine City] [good magazine store]
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Distribution: seattle
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:26:09 GMT

In <1992Sep12.160905.2352@seanews.akita.com> lee@seanews.akita.com (Lee Hauser) writes:
>It closed due to what the owners called high crime activity in the area,

I wonder... I talked to some friends down at Zanadu Comix (which is on the
same street/block as Magazine City), and they said it was due to a new rent
increase instituted by the owner of the building they share.

                           "I'm tired of people with trust funds telling
                            people on food stamps how to live!"

                                           -- Bill Clinton
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INTERNET:     moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Manual UUCP:  {uunet, uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
CREDO:        You gotta be Cruel to be Kind...
                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: Frank Sayre <sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu>
Subject: Judy Ramey, are you there?
Organization: Vanderbilt University Computer Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:06:51 GMT

If anyone out there knows Judy Ramey (Washington Univ., I think) 
please tell her to send me a mail message so I can establish 
contact that way.

Judy...Judy...is that you?...Are you there? The net is so much cheaper 
than Ma Bell!

============================================================
Frank C. Sayre
sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: solo@polari.online.com
Subject: test
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Distribution: wa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:59:10 GMT

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From: stui@avalon.caladan.wa.com (Stuart Burden)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: CD-Rom Mastering in the PNW?
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 21:48:42 PDT
Organization: Avalon, beyond the Mists
Reply-To: stui@avalon.caladan.wa.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.7b6

Hi.  Are there any CD-ROM Mastering companies in the Washington/Oregon
area.. I'm especially interested in recommendations, experiences (and
any ideas of costs for mastering and duplication).

Thanks, much.

Stu.

--
stui@avalon.uucp
stui@avalon.caladan.wa.com
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Flagrante delicto ["Red-handed"].
                                                          Anonymous: Latin
                                                                    Saying
From: goodwin@sumax.seattleu.edu (Terri Goodwin)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Rental
Keywords: Housing Roommate
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:39:33 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle, WA

to share with another female a 3 bedroom townhouse with pool 
tennis court and patio.  Professional-non-smoker please.  
$360/mo plus 1/2 utilities.  Phone 296-5566 between 7:00 am-4:00 pm
or 649-9037 after 5:00.