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From: collier@lacerta.unm.edu (Michael Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.photo,alt.cd-rom,gnu.misc.discuss,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Time to boycott Photo CD
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:37:02 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <l9okqpINNnc6@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>Kodak wants to tie up the file formats under lock and key.  You can't
>write a program to open their files.  You can't even write a program
>which generates their files.  Don't expect to ever see interfaces
>between Photo CD and pbm or TeX.  If you write a neat program which
>does XXX to a file in Kodak format, you can't give that program to
>anyone else.
>
>The only people who can read/write the Photo CD files are commercial
>vendors who pay Kodak royalties.

well, then, this would seem to impact folks like Adobe and Aldus. at
this point, given the apparently proprietary nature of the file formats,
can one do anything with these images using, say, Photoshop? i had
always assumed so, but maybe it isn't true. if not, what good is Photo
CD (other than as an archival methodology)?
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: portrait lenses: 35mm-Format.
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:53:12 GMT

In article <BtyKn8.AKC@cup.hp.com> markt@cup.hp.com (Mark Thompson) writes:
>I love my nikor 105 f2.8.  I can open it wide and get depth of focus that will
>let me get the eyelashes in focus and the hair in back out,  and the background
>muddles up very nicely.  Now i have an EOS Elan with a 28-80 and i think the
>80 is too short.  I have been asking the same question that you are and i'm 
>not sure if i want the 135sf or the 100 f2.  I've been wondering if the 135
>was too long but the previous poster's point about giving the subject more 
>space is a good one.  I find that when i'm taking portraits, with my 105,that 
>i end up getting to a confertable distance and that is about waist and up 
>in my viewfinder.  If i'm shooting someone that i know i usually get closer, 
>but rarely do i get close enough to have their head fill my frame.
>
>
>Mark

I use my Canon 85mm, 135mm and 35-105mm zoom quite often and I
like all of them.  I have used my 35-105mm the most often and
I will usually shoot with both the 85mm and zoom in one shoot.
I have often forgotten which lens I used (85mm or the 35-105mm)
when I preview the pictures.  For my overall preference, the
35-105mm zoom is my choice.  I can choose between 70-105mm zoom
range and really compose/crop within my viewfinder with just
one lens.  The end results are pleasing to me and the few clients
I do have.  If I am shooting stills, then I can just shoot with
either my 35mm, 50mm, or even my 100 macro since I can get as
close as I want to.
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From: david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters)
Subject: Re: Nikon f401s comments
Organization: BHP, Newcastle, Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:22:55 GMT

acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
>In <BtGKBs.BHE@ecf.toronto.edu> chang@ecf.toronto.edu (CHANG Rong Fawn Teresa) writes:

>>Does anyone consider Nikon f401s camera a professional one or a P&S or both?
>>Any (detailed) comments or suggestions are appreciated.  Email is okay too.

>I've never seen an F-401s.  I think you mean the F-401x.  It is P&S with
>interchangable lenses.  The main reasons for my saying so:
He means F-401s. It is the upgrade on the F-401 that uses the AF
from the F801, the F401 uses a slightly slower system.

>- no DOF preview
>- no aperture/shutter speed display
>- no exposure compensation
>- no interchangeable screens
>- built-in flash
>- no ISO setting
>- no continuous wind
>- and on and on...

>I mean, with so little control, what more *can* you do besides point
>and shoot?  Since it doesn't give shutter speed and aperture readouts,
>you need your own external light meter to set the manual controls!  You
>don't know the shutter speed, so you don't know if you need a tripod.
>You don't know the aperture so you have *no clue* as to your DOF.  This
>limits precise composition of a shot.

But it does have aperature priority, or shutter speed priority,
and the matrix metering. It may be P&S but it has some nice
features for a budget camera.

>I think you're getting the idea.  Indeed, many so-called "point and shoot"
>cameras now feature exposure compensation whereas the 401x doesn't!!!

>However, the Nikon "matrix metering" does get very high praise for
>delivering good exposures consistently.  So, 90% of the time, you probably
>wouldn't want to override it anyway.

>Personally, if I were to go Nikon, I would go with the F-601 at the very
>least.

But have you seen the price of the batteries! The F401 takes AA
penlites, and not the fancy thing the F601 sucks up.

[ Other camera comparison deleted ]
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:09:21 -0400 
From: Graeme_Dixon@transarc.com
Subject: For sale: Nikon FM2n + Nikkor lenses

For sale:

Nikon FM2n Camera Body, black		$225
Nikkor 24mm f2,8 AIS lens		$200
Nikkor 50mm f1,4 AIS lens + Nikon hood	$150

The lenses are in mint condition. The camera body is also near mint (a
couple of small scratches on the base). All have had very little use
-- the body has been used to take less than 10 rolls of file, the lenses
even less.  The 50mm f1,4 includes the metal Nikon lens hood (I forget
the number), the FM2n a black Nikon camera strap. I have the
instruction book for the body and the leaflets for the lens, but no
boxes.

From what photographs I did take, the lenses and body all produce
excellent pictures (I believe the 50mm f1,4 is a different design from
the AF version which was discussed recently in this newsgroup).

Reason for sale -- I have an F4 and a bunch of AF zoom/non-zoom lenses
and I'm trying to cut down on the amount of photography equipment I
have that I don't use.

Graeme N. Dixon
   Transarc Corporation
      email: graeme@transarc.com
      tel:   (412) 338 4454
      fax:   (412) 338 4404
From: bjs@uts.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Nikon N90 technobabble
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:36:17 GMT
Followup-To: rec.photo
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Alan Sanders writes:

>I also agree that the features I appreciate most on my 8008s
>are relatively few: autofocus, spot metering, flash automation,
>automatic film advance. Basic stuff. I use this camera in
>aperture priority or manual about 99% of the time. Who NEEDS
>a dozen program modes? I guess somebody does! :)

I think that might be worded to better effect:  "I guess somebody
*thinks* they do!".  :-)  I'll second your thoughts as applied
to my EOS bodies.

Barry

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters)
Subject: Re: NIKON F401
Organization: BHP, Newcastle, Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:23:49 GMT

pg@otter.hpl.hp.com (Patrick Gardette) writes:

>Hi,

>Does anybody know if it is possible to use a flexible "trigger" on the Nikon F401.
>There is no plug to connect such a trigger, but perhaps it is possible to connect it
>on the flash plug.

No NIKON literature mentions any way of doing it   :-(

david
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: tjlow@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Subject: Q: Minolta vs Nikon: Compatibility
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:01:43 GMT

Compatibility  Minolta Vs Nikon
-------------------------------

Considering ...
	Minolta x700   &   Minolta  xi
 and    Nikon   FE2    &   Nikon   N90, 8008, F


Q1.	Can Minolta Manual focus lens be used on it's Autofocus Body?

Q2.	Can Minolta Autofocus lens be used on it's Manual Body?

Q3.	Can Nikon   Manual focus lens be used on it's Autofocus Body?

Q4.	Can Nikon  Autofocus lens be used on it's manual Body?

- Toong-Jye.

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: konkkola@jyu.fi (Markku Konkkola)
Subject: Re: Rechargable type of lithium batteries?
Reply-To: konkkola@jyu.fi
Organization: University of Jyvskyl, Finland
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:10:44 GMT

In article 23989@leland.Stanford.EDU, babyduck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Tim Chen) writes:
> Does anyone know of a rechargable replacement for the lithium batter for such
> cameras as the Canon EOS or the Nikon 6006?  I'm not too keen on buying tons
> of lithium batteries even though they last a long time, I'm more interested

About 6 rolls in my EOS 10 with EF 2.8/300 - is it a long time??


Make

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From: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Subject: Re: Why do photofinishers crop so much?
Reply-To: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:21:44 GMT

In article <17j9iaINNo76@agate.berkeley.edu>, bclee@ocf.berkeley.edu (Bob C. Lee) writes:
|>	Actually, the aspect ratio of the image on negatives (35mm)
|>	is not the same as normal prints.  If look at the negatives,
|>	the images are sort of longish rectangles, longer than the
|>	prints made.
Not if you have 4x6" prints made from a 35mm neg.  The image area is supposed
to be 1" by 1.5" (or 2:3).  I've had the same thing done to me at a "pro" lab
on machine printed 4x5's.  This should be almost an exact blowup from a 6x7cm
neg., and still they lop off a bunch.  I just chalked it up to some enforced
cropping done by the internal masks on the print machine.
jimf
From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Nodal point on lens.
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:51:09 GMT
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University


How do I find the nodal point on a lens?
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: babyduck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Tim Chen)
Subject: Rechargable type of lithium batteries?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 00:03:01 GMT

Does anyone know of a rechargable replacement for the lithium batter for such
cameras as the Canon EOS or the Nikon 6006?  I'm not too keen on buying tons
of lithium batteries even though they last a long time, I'm more interested
in something that's reusuable.  Since I don't read all of the net most
of the time can you please email your answers to me at:

babyduck@medisg.stanford.edu

I will post a summary of my findings. :)

Thanks a bunch
From: serge@mais.hydro.qc.ca (Serge Oligny)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: NIKON new F90 SLR
Keywords: nikon
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:02:38 GMT
Organization: Hydro-Quebec, Montreal, Canada


Here it is folks !!


Just picked up a copy of Photo Digest during lunch and they are publishing
a brief overview of Nikon new F90... Following is a feature summary:

.   CAM 246 sensor module w/246 CCD's (vs. 200 for 801s)
.   Wide area AF sensors, both vert. and hor. with selectable narrow 
    spot focus,
.   Predictive "tracking" AF with any AF lens / film drive mode,
.   Advanced 8 segments matrix metering w/fuzzy logic, uses subject distance
    info. supply by "D" lenses.         
.   Narrow (3mm) spot meter
.   Secondary 5 segments TTL meter for flash,
.   User selectable "VARI PROGRAM" mode instead of 2/3 programs
.   7 add. programs for specific subject types
.   W/sb-25 flash: monitor pre-flash, high speed sync. (1/250 to 1/4000!!!)
    red-eye reduction and strobe effect,
.   Interface w/Sharp Electronic Organizer palmtop "computer" offering:
    . remote control
    . add. functions
    . customized settings
    . memorize shooting data
    . requires MC-27 cable and IC card
.   Flash & ambient light exp. bracketing selectable w/MF-26 back or
    Electronic Organizer
.   a few more goodies...

Current "D" lenses:

    . 28-70 f/3.3-4.5 D
    . 35-70 f/2.8 D
    . 80-200 f/2.8 D
    . 300 f/2.8 AF-I D
    . 600 f/4 AF-I D


Anyone on the net had a chance to have his hands on one of these ?!?!

Serge Oligny
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Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Subject: tomatoes won't ripen
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:49:32 GMT


I have a small vegetable garden which among other things has
8 tomato plants.  Two of them are cherry tomatoes and are
finally producing fruit.  The other plants are early girl,
better boy and beefsteak.  There are many (by way less than last
year) green fruit.  Cleveland has been blessed with a lot of
rain this summer, only one day so far over 90 and very very few
sunny days.  Now it is starting to cool down in the evenings. 
What can I do to ripen and use the tomatoes.  I hate the
thought of tossing them all out.  Normally, I have this many
plants and have enough canned tomatoes to see me through the
spring.

Any help will be appreciated.

Evelyn
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From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: Re: K9P = amazing herbicide/fertiliser.
Reply-To: dadams@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:49:05 CDT

 tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Tony Wallis) writes:
>
>My question is horti-chemical.  What is that ingredient in dog urine
>that in concentrated form is a powerful herbicide, but in diluted
>form is an excellent fertiliser ?
>
>One obvious answer might be K9P = N (specifically urea).  However,
>consider those "green collars" around the bullseyes.  Several months
>ago my friend's dog peed on some grass in a park and we carefully marked
>the spot for later study.  The grass ring is still growing at a speed
>triple the surroundings.  We have had tons of rain, and I would have
>expected any soluble such as urea to have been leached out a long time
>ago.  Also, I am getting the "green ring" effect on my lawn where the
>dog peed - and my lawn grass certainly does not have nitrogen as a
>limiting growth factor.
>
>--
>tony@nexus.yorku.ca = Tony Wallis, York University, Toronto, Canada

I was told by a chemist that urea binds with sand in the soil and
hence it stays around longer than other synthetic fertilizers.


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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: how much sun does garlic need
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:33:53 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (C. Richter) writes:
> Garlic needs full sun and rich soil to do well.

Anyone ever get viable seed from garlic?  I've played around with
various macronutrient (NPK) concentrations trying to get seed set, but
no luck.  Looks like the seed just aborts  a few days post-pollination.  

Kay
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: roberson@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES D ROBERSON)
Subject: Re: What to Do with Japapenos?
Originator: roberson@baepm2.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: roberson@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES D ROBERSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:46:28 GMT


james@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (James White) writes:

<As a side note:  My wife loves to use the juice from the pickled hot
<peppers for
<adding to stir-fry dishes.  I seem to find more jars of dryed out pickled
<hot
<peppers in the fridge than anything else.


We use the vinegar from the pepper in chili, on greens, field peas, etc.;
just about anything that needs a little 'bite' but usually finish peppers
and vinegar about the same time.

jim
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Sensitive plants (??)
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
	<1992Sep2.101438.737@calmasd.prime.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.101438.737@calmasd.prime.com> 
jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop) writes:
>From Sunset Garden book:
>"Mimosa pudica.  Sensitive plant.  Tender perennial usually grown as
>houseplant curiosity.  To 18 in. high or less.  Leaves finely cut into
>tiny leaflets.  These leaves and branchlets, when touched or
>otheriwise disturbed, droop and fold up with astonishing speed.  They
>quickly expand again.  Small pink "silk tree" blossoms.  Grow from
>seed indoors or in bright light in warm green house.  They will grow
>outdoors, but are not sufficiently attractive for garden [not sure I
>agree with that].  Transplant carefully to 4 in pots.  Avoid
>overwatering.  Their only use is to demonstrate movement in plants;
>childern find them fascinating."

I'm not sure why Sunset gives them the "not sufficiently attractive",
although they are not the only ones to slight M. pudica. They are thorny
and maybe slightly invasive in the right climate, but I've never seen
them get out of control in Florida or Calif. They are tender perennials
so they don't last frost. But they are very attractive, miniature
legumes or miniature Silk Trees or what is called Mimosa tree in the US.
Very attractive almost flourescent little pink puff flowers. And then
they are always opening and closing their leaflets in response to who
knows what. Very fascinating. I don't know why they aren't grown more
often. They are drought tolerant and require little care. Thorny, but
no more so than a rose. Easy to start from seed.
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From: kls@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kenneth L Shellberg)
Subject: Australian plants/Ameriflora
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:14:38 GMT

Went to Ameriflora yesterday and the Australian exhibit had plants for
sale.  I picked up two which were purported to be hardy in zone 5
Columbus, Ohio.  Naturally, neither of these were listed in my references,
which are largely oriented towards plants available for north american
gardens (Dirr for the woodies, and Clausen & Ekstrom for the perennials).

The woody plant is Metrosideros tomentosus (M. excelsus), New Zealand Xmas
Tree-Bush.  An evergreen tree or large shrub, bright red flowers in spring
and early summer.  It has a Hines nursery tag on it.  Can anyone tell me
a little more about this?  Is it really zone 5 hardy?  Acid or alkaline?
eventual height and width?  Other cultural info?

The herbaceous perennial is Alyogyne huegelii, no common name given.  A
rounded shrub-like plant to approx 2m high with large lilac colored
flowers.  Leaves remind me of Pelargonium (sp), the geraniums we
grow here as annuals.  Is it zone 5 hardy?  Any other cultural info
would be most welcome.

I enjoyed Ameriflora once I got over my initial disappointment that there
isn't all that much that is unusual, and that many of the plantings
consist of rather young plants.  There is much more reliance on annuals than
I would prefer.  However, many of the plantings do provide lots of ideas of 
how to combine plants to achieve different effects.  Australia is the only
exhibiting country that has native plants for sale - a great idea that I
wish more countries had adopted.

Thanks in advance.

Ken
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Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Poison ivy & "roundup"
From: A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 02:29:07 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

I would think a compost heap would be just the place for poison ivy. 
Most toxins are "organic" and are broken down by soil bacteria.

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From: karen@athena.cs.uga.edu (Karen Snetselaar)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: K9P = amazing herbicide/fertiliser.
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:21:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Aug25.212106.22941
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug25.192137.17301@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Tony Wallis) writes:
>
>My question is horti-chemical.  What is that ingredient in dog urine
>that in concentrated form is a powerful herbicide, but in diluted
>form is an excellent fertiliser ?
>
>One obvious answer might be K9P = N (specifically urea).  However,
>consider those "green collars" around the bullseyes.  Several months
>ago my friend's dog peed on some grass in a park and we carefully marked
>the spot for later study.  The grass ring is still growing at a speed
>triple the surroundings.  We have had tons of rain, and I would have
>expected any soluble such as urea to have been leached out a long time
>ago.  Also, I am getting the "green ring" effect on my lawn where the
>dog peed - and my lawn grass certainly does not have nitrogen as a
>limiting growth factor.
>
>--
>tony@nexus.yorku.ca = Tony Wallis, York University, Toronto, Canada

Another possibility comes to mind.  Perhaps the "green ring" effect
results from the complex mix of nutrients released when the "bullseye"
of dead grass is broken down by microbes in the soil.  This breakdown
would occur over a relatively long period, and the slow release of
nutrients would not be subject to leaching.  Maybe you could try an
herbicide bullseye (something non-persistent of course) and see if the
same thing occurs.

Karen Snetselaar
Plant Pathology
University of Georgia
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