HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ems@work.wpd.sgi.com (Ed Sesek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: anyone have any caveats/hints for installing HPljIII on a 4D/35???
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:21:15 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <fish.714769975@news2.gsfc.nasa.gov> fish@daacdev1.stx.com writes:

>i was just wondering if anybody had run into any problems - we have
>the extra laser printer support - i haven't tried installing it yet
>but thought i'ld put out a feeler for folks with prev experience

The Laser Printer Support (LPS) package does not support the HP LaserJet III.
LPS only provides support for the Apple LaserWriter II and IINT (and not
the IIF or IIG).

SGI has just released a new product called Impressario.  It does support
the HP LaserJet III (and IIP, IIP+, IIIP) along with the Apple LaserWriters.
Impressario includes a PostScript interpreter that runs on the host so
you don't need to buy a PS cartridge for the HP.

Ed Sesek
Silicon Graphics
From: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov (Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Dog, Arena, Battlezone, and Networks
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:20:15 GMT


     Dog used to flood the network with broadcast messages, making it very
network unfriendly.  I believe that has been corrected in IRIX > 3.3.  Arena
seems to also flood the network in IRIX 3.3.2.  Has this been corrected in
IRIX > 4.0?  What about this `battlezone', or what ever it is called, has it
been made more network friendly too?  Thanks.

  Brent L. Bates				Phone:(804) 864-2854
  M.S. 361			  		  FAX:(804) 864-8469
  NASA Langley Research Center
  Hampton, Virginia  23681-0001
  E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero00.larc.nasa.gov
From: shk@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (Steve Kinder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Tektronix 4100 emulator for X wanted
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:49:50 GMT
Reply-To: shk@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK


 Thomas Sippel wrote:

> We have a need for an xterm-like program that could be used to run
> with programs expecting a Tektronix 4100 to 4200 series terminal.
> The programs run on a VAX under VMS, the terminal emulator should
> run on an X11 based workstation (DECstation, Indigo, Sparcstation ...)
> 

xterm windows also have a Tektronix 4014 'half' which we have used to successfully
run old programs in. Press <control><middle mouse button> and select the 'show
tek window' option. It is also possible to switch mode by sending some escape
sequence. Hope this is of some help (see also man xterm).

Steve.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: chown : HELP!
Followup-To: comp.unix.misc
Keywords: changing owners
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:08:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.081722.27559@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
> What the hell does that mean?  What am I doing wrong?  I am executing the
> "chown" command as the "root" user.  Shouldn't I _have_ permission?

Yes, you should. But because you're using NFS, you don't. NFS is not a full
UNIX file system.

rlogin to the server and do it from there.
-- 
Peter da Silva                                               `-_-'
$ EDIT/TECO LOVE                                              'U` 
%TECO-W-OLDJOKE Not war?                        Have you hugged your wolf today?
Ferranti Intl. Ctls. Corp.      Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012       +1 713 274 5180
From: leonardz@testarossa.cs.uoguelph.ca (Len Zaifman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Help with an indigo configuration
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:56:03 GMT


	I am thinking of getting an R4K indigo for home. The main use
would be fortran and C programming, and visulaisation work. I am hoping to
get information on the following points:

1 )	Regarding the disk:
	the 432 would suffice for disk space needs as I will also have a
	dat drive for offline storage.
	I am willing to pay extra for the 1 GB drive if it has superior
	performance both in random access mode and in raw transfer
	a ) does anyone have any performance numbers on an R4K indigo with
	    both options as the system disk and compare them?
	b ) can these numbers be seen qualitatively?? ie - do compiles and
	    large disk accesses appear perceptibly faster ?? Can you
	    see the speedup in graphics if paging/swapping is occurring using
	    the 1.2 GByte disk over the 432 MByte disk ?

2 )	Regarding the monitor:
	I can only afford entry graphics for starts. Hopefully in a year or
	so I can find the money for ELAN. In the meantime ,
	a ) there has been a controversy over the quality of the starter
	    graphics monitors and whether the 16" sony was better than
	    the 16" Mitsubishi. Can someone who has used both comment on 
	    how they differ and whether it is worth specifying one or the 
	    other on the order.
	b ) I am told that in terms of features:

		the Mitsubishi can scan at 60Hz,72Hz and 120 Hz
		(at 1/2 vertical resolution) whereas the Sony cannot

		are there any other feature differences?

		In particular, I understand that both the Mitsubishi and the
		Sony can go to 1280 x 1024 resolution. This is an absolute
		requirement for the monitor.

3)	What modem works well with slip?? I need the highest speed possible
	that works over a phone line as I won't be able to afford a leased line.
	What speed works reliably oveer the phone line?

4)	Does the UPS sold through SGI express do the job in terms of power 
	protection as well as battery backup? Any good/bad experiences with it
	in lightning and brownout conditions ??

	In particular, is the Smart UPS400 good enough for the power
	requirements of an R4K Indigo ?? Or is it marginal ??

	Many thanks for your help.

-- 
						Regards,
						Len Zaifman

Len Zaifman
Information Technology Coordinator, College of Physical and Engineering Science
University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario. N1G 2W1
phone : (519) 824-4747 xt 6566 
email : leonardz@vm.uoguelph.ca , leonardz@Testarossa.cs.uoguelph.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon)
Subject: Re: X programs in C++, why do they need -DFUNCPROTO ?
Originator: rvloon@triton.cv.ruu.nl
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:30:24 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group

In <stefans.715590745@bauv106> stefans@bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Stefan Schwarz) writes:

|"avinash@felix.contex.com (Avinash Chopde) writes:
|"
|">I had to provide a -DFUNCPROTO option to the C++ compiler (2.11 and 3.10)
|">to compile a X program.
|">Without -DFUNCPROTO, the prototypes for XtInitialize(..), etc are not
|">included.
|"
|">Now, is this normal behavior, or is there some other procedure
|">to compile C++ X programs ?
|"
|"Don't care about such hardware-dependent options. They are different on
|"nearly every platform. You should always use imake to build X-applications,
|"which cares about such specific options.
|"
|"Stefan

There is no *specific* C++ support for Imake. I had to add my own stuff for
the Motif C++ bindings to take care of that.
-- 
Ronald van Loon (rvloon@cv.ruu.nl) 3DCV Group, Utrecht, The Netherlands.

"I believe the word you are looking for is "AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!"
    - The Penguin (Batman ][)
From: sims@cam.nist.gov (Jim_Sims_x2710)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 4.0.5A/B/C/D/E
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:03:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology, Gaithersburg, MD

Someone posted a summary of the differences between
these releases and I didn't catch it. Would you please
repost? Thanks!

Jim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: stanj@ferrari.corp.sgi.com (Stan Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: "at" problems under 401 and 405
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:43:58 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <Btuwnn.DHu@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, dweber@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Daniel Weber) writes:
|> 
|> I can't seem to get the "at" command to work under IRIX 4.0.1 and 4.0.5,
|> either as a super-user or normal-user.  If I type:
|> 
|> VGX 1> at 11:00am today test
|> VGX 2> at 11:01 today test
|> VGX 3> at 11:02 test
|> 
|> where test is a file that contains the line "echo testing", I get
|> 
|> >at: bad date specification
|> 
|> every time.  These appear to be legal according to the manual, and indeed,
|> they work fine on other UNIX platforms.  What's the scoop?  I'm not listed
|> in the /usr/lib/cron/at.deny file.

Try "at 11:00 today < test"
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From: ciemo@bananapc.csd.sgi.com (Dave Ciemiewicz)
Subject: Re: Optimization problem with 3.1 compilers
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Customer Support Division
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:32:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.000616.8590@leland.Stanford.EDU>, dhinds@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds) writes:
|> I have a program that compiles and executes reliably with the MIPS 2.1
|> compilers under Irix 4.0.1, but core dumps with a segmentation violation
|> when a particular function is compiled at -O2 or above with the 3.1
|> compilers and Irix 4.0.5A.   Here is a short example with the problem:
|> 
|> > #include <stdio.h>
|> > #define MAXP 12
|> > 
|> > void main(void)
|> >   {
|> >   int *i, *j, step[MAXP+1], k;
|> >   double sum;
|> >   float all2[MAXP+1];
|> >
|> >   for (k = 0; k < MAXP+1; k++) {
|> >     step[k] = k; all2[k] = 2.0;
|> >     }
|> >
|> >   sum = 0.0; k = 2;
|> >   for (i = &step[2]; i <= &step[MAXP]; i++, k++) {
|> >     printf("k = %d\n", k);
|> >     for (j = &step[1]; j != i; j++)
|> >       sum += all2[*j] - 1;
|> >     }
|> >   printf("Sum = %f\n", sum);
|> >   }
|> 
|> When I compile this with 'cc -O2 bug.c' and run a.out, I get:
|> 
|> > k = 2
|> > k = 3
|> > k = 4
|> > k = 5
|> > k = 6
|> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
|> 

I don't know if you got a response on this or not.  The problem is a bug
in the 3.10 version of /usr/lib/uopt which incorrectly unrolls the inner
loop "for (j = ...".  There is a bug submitted on this problem.

To work around this problem, turn off loop unrolling in uopt (see uopt(1)
man page):

		cc -O2 -Wo,-loopunroll,0 bug.c -o bug.c
From: paquin@kahua.esd.sgi.com (Tom Paquin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: GLX slow rendering problem
Keywords: GL, GLX, shaded rendering
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:31:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.

soltys@phoenix.radonc.unc.edu (Mitchel Soltys) writes:

|> 
|> for(i = 0; i < num_triangles;i++){
|> 	bgnpolygon();
|> 	n3f(fake_vector);
|> 	v3f(fake_vector);
|> 	n3f(fake_vector);
|> 	v3f(fake_vector);
|> 	n3f(fake_vector);
|> 	v3f(fake_vector);
|> 	endpolygon();
|> }
|> 
|> takes ~1.6 secs ... more than three times as slow.


Hm. Well, the bgnpolygon, n3f, v3f and endpolygon code hasn't changed
one whit.  Your process is executing the same instructions with or
without X.  But the system may be getting involved, for reasons I
don't understand.  (And I should- I do know about the kernel/window
system/graphics relationships.)

I don't have an answer, but I can confirm that the GL code is
identical.  I hope someone can shed some light on this.

-- 

		-Tom
*****
Opinions are mine, etc.
From: flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Missing Prototypes - Solution!
Keywords: prototypes, irix
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:50:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: shrike.1173
Organization: "Lockheed Austin Division, 6800 Burleson Rd, Austin, TX 78744

In article <3419@ra.nrl.navy.mil> russo@rudedog.nrl.navy.mil (Kevin Russo) writes:
>
>Since we're all ANSI-fying our code these days, several people may
>have run into the ol' missing prototype problem. It seems that the
>prototype declarations for some system and library routines are not
>anywhere to be found in the header files. (It's always the one you
>want, too.)
>

Of course, these are just the ones supplied with the OS; add on
your third party functions (like Sybase)...

Which raises and interesting problem. We are also compiling all our
code -fullwarn and attempting to resolve the warnings. So I entered
from the man pages the prototypes for the Sybase functions we are
using (an aside: Sybase said they included ANSI prototypes in
4.6.1, but we won't see them on SGI until 5.0 is released).

One function has a parameter which is declared BYTE *. From the
Sybase header files,

typedef unsigned char BYTE;

Now, the SGI compiler treats characters as unsigned by default
(according to the CC man page). Use the -signed flag to get signed
characters. However, the following code fragment will not compile
under IRIX 4.0.1

extern void foo (unsigned char *ptr);

void bar(void)
{
    char line[80];

    foo(line);
}

If char's are unsigned by default, why is there a difference
between and an unsigned char * and a char *? I called the TAC, and
the guy there didn't think it was a problem, but he filed a bug
report for me anyway. Just an irritation, but one that shouldn't
have been. There are enough other *real* problems to fix in the
code! :-)



-- 
Jim Melton, novice guru
email:      flash@austin.lockheed.com | "So far as we know, our
voice mail: (512) 386-4486            |  computer has never had
fax:        (512) 386-4223            |  an undetected error"
From: karlton@fudge.asd.sgi.com (Phil Karlton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: xwsh on top
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:44:34 GMT
Reply-To: karlton@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, ASD

In article <32206@adm.brl.mil>, karron@karron.med.nyu.edu (Dan Karron (karron@nyu.edu) writes:
    why is xwsh consuming so much cpu time on an essentially static
    screen ? top/gr_top reports it takes 68% of cpu time with
    out any obvious activity on the screen.

This is really odd. I have 4 or 5 instances of xwsh that have been
running for a couple of weeks now. None has accumulated more than 40
seconds of CPU time, and even with top running in one of the xwsh
windows, it is accumulating CPU time slower than top.

    I would assume that if there is intensive user drawing, but
    no interaction with the window manager, xwsh activity would be low.
    When the screen is quite, I would also hope for low xwsh activity.

    Perhaps someone can explain what xwsh is doing all the time ?

You seem to have tickled some unknown bug in xwsh. If you have any idea
what caused it to get into that state, submit a bug report.

Personally, I've never seen xwsh get into the state you describe.

PK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: philip@ziggy.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick)
Subject: 1.2G internal Indigo drives?
Reply-To: philip@ziggy.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:34:26 GMT

I am thinking of getting an R4000 Indigo and the cost difference between an SGI  
43M drive and a third party 1.2G internal drive is not great. I put this  
possibilty to the sales person who told me that they had experience of people  
blowing graphics boards as a result of too much heat from some models of 1.2G  
drive.

I haven't seen anything like this on the net.

Any confirmation / disconfirmation welcome.

(The model I have been looking at is the 1.2G DEC drive from Andataco.)
--
Philip Machanick
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: tttron@escher.lerc.nasa.gov (William Krauss)
Subject: SGI Abekas A60 graphics control panel...
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:57:44 GMT


Attention SGI Abekas A60 video disk users.

Those who have used the remote A60 controller software found in 
/usr/people/4Dgifts/iristools/abekas/_panel might be interested to 
find I have made extensive modifications to it.  Much time was spent
verifying that the remote graphics control panel (ACP) emulates 
the actual Abekas one as closely as possible:

	- bugs fixed
	- Command-line A60 hostname specification
	- 4-digit frame position display
	- Variable play speed now saved (for subsequent variable play selects)  
	- Recording implemented
	- Current play status (operation and direction, if known) 
	- Play (normal or variable) speed/Recording length
	- More user GUI feedback (color, text...)
	- Userid stamp (displayed on A60 monitor to show current remote userid) 
	...

If you are interested in obtaining the "diffs" contact me via e-mail. 

If someone from SGI would comment on if/how I might get the okey-dokey to 
"redistribute" the source ~8 files total) I'd appreciate it. 


	William


-- 
>>>> W.D. Krauss (o.k.) 		     Sverdrup Technology, Inc.  <<<<
>>>> NASA Lewis Research Center   	      Cleveland, OH 44135  USA  <<<< 
>>>> william@lerc.nasa.gov                              (216) 433-8991	<<<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: bobw@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bob Waffenschmidt)
Subject: please recommend 4mm tape backup system.
Organization: Grumman Corporation
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:12:46 GMT

Any leads or words of wisdom would be appreciated in helping me in my
quest for a reliable backup system for my site's collection of SGI.

I perfer an external 4mm tape backup system bundled with reliable
software for unattended nightly full an incremental backups.  This
system should be capable of being left unattended for a month or until
the tape fills.

If you could fill in the following information (in full or in part) it
would bring a smile to this site managers face :).

Name of system (make and model):
Type of system (4mm, 8mm etc.):
Transfer rate:
Capacity of tape uncompress:
Capacity of tape compressed:
Vendor name & phone #:
Manufacturer name & phone #:
Price:
Compatibility with other systems:
Back up software used:
Ease of use:
Reliablility:
Comment and flames(please let me here about your problems):

Thanks in advance and for reading this far!
From: ted@cs.utexas.edu (Ted Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Dog, Arena, Battlezone, and Networks
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:17:25 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: bovina.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Sep2.200605.27765@odin.corp.sgi.com> fouts@exacto.dallas.sgi.com (Christopher Fouts) writes:
>Bz uses multicast packets and is throttled to send a maxium of 15 update
>packets a second.  Each packet is around 60 or so bytes long, so the
>overall bandwidth used is relatively small.  Your opinion of whether or
>not this is flooding the network may differ.  :^)

Yeah, it does.  I tried to compile it on a Sparc 2 with npgl, but had to cut
out the multicast stuff. And Sun is supposed to be the network guys...

My, bz is slow on a 4D/20.  And how do you get it to work smoothly over
different networks?  We have 4 machines on FDDI and 3 on ethernet.  3 of the
FDDI machines are also on the ethernet, but to get them to talk to one another
(since bz uses the default interface), I had to make one of the FDDI/ethernet
machines a multicast repeater, by changing the config file for some net d
or another (I forget which at the moment).  Anyway, people on the ethernet
machines seem to quit, then start up again, then quit, etc on all of the FDDI
machines except the repeater.  And they seriously jerk.  Is there any way
to make this smoother?

Is bz in general distribution?  I would rather not say where I got my copy.
And has the "Whoops...I can't fire anymore" bug been fixed?  I fixed it
when I added a new tank type (our favorite these days; Super Stealth, worth
150 points).

And don't forget to kill ocean before you start playing; especially if in zoo
mode. You do run ocean, don't you?  Who doesn't? :-)

-- 
Ted Woodward (ted@cs.utexas.edu)

"Mad scientists HATE shopping for shoes!" -- Peaches
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: mark@cs.monash.edu.au (Mark Goodwin)
Subject: Wavefront bombs under Irix4.05
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:08:29 GMT

Help! We just upgraded from 4.04 -> 4.05
and none of the Wavefront software works anymore.

What has changed in GL/X to make this happen?

The Wavefront software says "FATAL: failed to open window",
and then just dies. Some kind of GFX/framebuffer problem.

I really don't want to have to go back to 4.04.

Mark Goodwin,
Senior Programmer,
Monash Uni. Comp. Sci.
A U S T R A L I A
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Hard Disk Problem
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:47:40 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <32207@adm.brl.mil> fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.) writes:


| This one is already logged with the TAC but I thought I'd
| post and see if there is any net wisdom ...
| 
| PROBLEM(S!):
| Since sunday we are getting the following messages in SYSLOG
| on one of our machines:
| 
| Aug 26 05:00:04 poly1 unix: ips0d0s6 (/usr): uncorrectable error (code 23) chs=179/9/46  ...about to do first retry
| Aug 26 05:00:12 poly1 unix: ips0d0s6 (/usr): uncorrectable error (code 23) chs=179/9/46  ...about to do second retry
| Aug 26 05:00:12 poly1 unix: ips0d0s6 (/usr): uncorrectable error (code 23) chs=179/9/46  ...about to do third retry
| Aug 26 05:00:12 poly1 unix: ips0d0s6 (/usr): uncorrectable error (code 23) chs=179/9/46  ...FATAL

| DIAGNOSIS (from TAC): Hard disk is going ...

Correct.

| CURE (from TAC): Get a new hard disk ...

Also correct, although reformatting the disk might help for a short
while (but doesn't solve your other problem)

| MAJOR PROBLEM: The system manager for that machine
| did not do a backup of the system since installing
| 4.0.1, and there have been major changes and fixes
| (e.g., Mail).  He is on vacation as well.  If we do
| a backup of the entire system now, it will be corrupt
| (I think) since we get I/O errors doing even a simple
| ls command.

The backup won't be corrupt, except for those files that are shot
anyway.  Some backup programs may abort when trying to read the
bad files, so  you may have to arrange your backups to avoid them.

| QUESTION: How can the changes that have been made best
|           be preserved?    
| 
| I can think of two strategies:
| 
| (1) Back up the entire system, and then reinstall 4.0.1 after
|     dumping the backup tape onto the new disk.

Do it the other way around; backup only the non-system files,
plus config files and other modified files (i.e., the output
of "versions changed").  Some of those changed files may be due
to the disk problems; others because we change some files at
installation time, and never fixed that for versions.  Still,
it will save you backup time.

--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: mgb@elec.uq.oz.au (Michael Barlow)
Subject: Passwd front-end
Summary: Query regarding a passwd front-end for sgi machines
Keywords: passwd, help, 
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:46:36 GMT

Hi. We're looking for a front-end replacement for the standard passwd
program that will run on an sgi machine (4D/440 and a few Indigos).

In particular we'd like a program that checked that the password was
"intelligent"; in effect running some sort of password checking before
accepting the password. 

Apparently there are such programs for other machine architectures but
we haven't heard of such for sgi machines. If anyone could point us in the
right direction we'd be greatly appreciative.

Thanks in advance.



						Michael (Spike) Barlow