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From: john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: RE: INTEL SATISFAXTION VS
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas) 

spyder@admiral.uucp (Eric) writes:

 > I bought the USR, and I'm pretty satisfied with it....  the only
 > thing I miss about the PPI is the LCD screen, but who cares, when
 > the modem didn't work anyway...I do have a tiny problem though...
 > sometimes when I'm typing with the USR, it'll freeze for a second
 > or two, and then everything will come out....?

The pause is due to error-correction retransmissions, probably due to
line problems.  If it becomes too much of a problem, you may want to
have your phone line checked out.

Best regards,
John
                                                                                     
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From: tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com (Tommy Szeto)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: HELP: different Sportster 4.1 ROM dates??
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:09:37 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
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Does anyone know if USR removed the atgw command from a later rev of the 4.1
supervisor ROM ?  I've got a 4.1 ROM, but it's dated 5/21/92.  All the
conversions of Sportster->DS I've seen have been on 4.1 ROMs dated earlier.
I just keep getting errors when I issue atgw xxxx,nn commands.  atg= works
fine however so I can do hex dumps of the ROM code.  Thanks for any info.

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From: mcneill@devon.co.uk (Keith McNeill)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: USA modems in Europe
Date: 6 Jan 93 09:31:22 GMT
Organization: Devon Systems International

> In <3453@nlsun1.oracle.nl> rlyle@nl.oracle.com (Rob Lyle  Wizard of Ozje) writes:
> 
>>Anyone got any experiences with using USR modems (or any other 14.4K beasts)
>>built and bred for the States over in Europe?  (Specifically Holland/Britain).
> 

The only real problem that I've had is with the confusion over the ring/busy
signal.  In the UK sometimes the phone rings:  ring....ring-ring....ring-ring
etc (one ring followed by the normal double ring).  This confused the modem
into thinking that it was a busy signal.  To work around this I disabled
busy signal detection (via a ATX command).

Keith

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: PPI EPROMS (Re: PPI repair charges)
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:27:26 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Martin) writes:

>Incidentally, I came across this in my manual: "Most products returned to
>Practical Peripherals for repair are found to be in proper working
>condition."

Read: "Most people who think something's wrong with their modem are silly
dips who don't know how to configure it."  Find a BBS network (such as 
WWIVnet) with a networked PPI support SIG, and read the messages for a good
laugh.  50% are posts by or to people who don't RTFM.  Another 10% are 
people who kill their modems and then refuse to admit it's their fault since
they're "computer professionals with several years experience" (and so,
can do no wrong). :)

>btw, I (finally) just ordered the ROM upgrade and updated fax software from
>PPI Tech Support.  Will I have to return the old ROM?  And I know someone
>mentioned this before (Shag?) but how soon can I expect the upgrade to
>arrive?  (I'm not that impatient - just curious!)

PPI typically ships upgrades the same day, if you're located in the U.S.,
you should receive it in 3-4 days.  In the large envelope (read the packing
list on the outside, the prices are amusing) there should be 2 xeroxed
pages on how to install your new EPROM, and a small padded envelope (not
sealed).  Inside the small envelope, in a static-bag, is the EPROM, with
the prongs in a pink foam thingie.

Once you've installed your new EPROM, you put the old one in the foam, in
the static bag, and in the padded envelope - which, conveniently, has a
return label so you can mail it to PPI.  They recycle the EPROMS.

A suggestion:  Do NOT send your old EPROM back immediately.  PPI is not
really going to notice.  Run for a week with your new EPROM to make sure it
works.  Put it through its paces.  Once you're satisfied it's fine, send
back the old one.  This way, if the new one has a problem, you're not up
the creek.

-Shag
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jtp3915@usl.edu (Pee Jun T)
Subject: Comment on Supra 14.4 Fax Modem ?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:15:12 GMT

	Any suggestion ?             



Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: huntting@advtech.uswest.com (Brad Huntting)
Subject: Re: Could somebody tell me the quality of Boca modems?
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:40:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.190858.13662@spectrum.CMC.COM> lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen) writes:
> The Rockwell reference firmware release V1.270 for the V.32(bis)
> datapump has an enhanced UART emulation, which basically uses the V.42
> packet buffer as a FIFO. This is even better than a real 16550A.

Facinating.  I assume this means that when a block of characters become
available, the Line Status Register will continue indicate a character
is ready to be read until the V.42 packet buffer is empty?

Is there any transmit buffer?  What internal modems use this device?
Where can I get documentation?


brad
From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: call waiting
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 15:18:00 EST
Organization: Izot's Swamp

tim@boxhill.com (Timothy Jones) writes:

> I set S10=1, but when a call comes in, the modem simply tries to retrain
> instead of hanging up.  Is there any way of telling the modem to not retrain
> (and hang up) when the carrier is dropped, and to retrain when the line
> becomes otherwise noisy?  I normally use the multi-auto DCE rate (&N0).

   Look into the &Q command.

  Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
geoff@zswamp.uucp, [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff (416)258-8467
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: pdl@rz.uni-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)
Subject: Call for reset strings
Keywords: reset modem
Reply-To: pdl@rz.uni-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)
Organization: University Jena, Germany
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:11:54 GMT


Hi Folks !
~~~~~~~~~~

 I'm writing an program hooking off and reset a modem at the serial port.
Thats why I collect reset strings and methods to reset a modem. My problem
is that in the case of errornous connections the modem hangs and the BBS 
stops it's execution. Thats why I need such a program. 
Think also about the following:
  AT&D0 , ATA , ... try to disconnect, if successful connected.

 Lutz
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan)
Subject: Re: A Telebit FAX upgrade FLAME (Was: "Re: WB Fax Upgrade")
Keywords: Telebit  FAX  documentation
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:38:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.224840.19272@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.182313.22435@news2.cis.umn.edu> alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan) writes:
>>> [about lack of documentation for fax commands]
>>
>>Actually, no fax modem I have seen has ever had any documentation on the
>>commands to control the fax capabilities. Admittedly, that's only a sample
>>of 2 different modems, but it looks as if it's standard practise not to
>>supply this information (possibly because its not useful for the average
>>end-user).
>
>It's certainly useful to someone who tries to run a PD software package like
>GNU NetFax or Sam Leffler's FlexFAX package, and needs to know certain things
>if said packages fail to work.

Well, I agree, I would be interested to see the fax control commands, and
as I use an obscure computer they might also be useful or necessary to me.
I was thinking more of the average DOS or Mac user who might be using
bundled software when I said it might not be useful. I didn't consider an
"average" user running a unix box... I could be wrong!

>>You can get hold of documents describing the Class-1 and Class-2 protocols
>>from several BBS's - I saw a copy which had originated from Supra.
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Key phrase - "originated from Supra".  I got nothing from Telebit; not even
>any pointers on where to find said documents!  What if I had no Internet
>access?  The vendors should provide the necessary documents, period.  I don't
>need any vendors deciding what is "not useful for the average end-user" (and
>thus not provided) for me ...

Well I only got these documents by chance (they were on a disc with the
fax *software* for my machine, included only for interest should I want to
write a different driver). I don't have a Supra modem, I think someone
must have downloaded the docs from Supra's BBS at some stage. It's nice of
Supra to have them there. I was just pointing out that as far as I know,
none of the fax-modem vendors seem to supply the documents you want, at
least not by default. I agree it would be nice to have the option. 

Graham.
From: Charles Menser <charles@peachnet.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Hayes V-seris 'better' than v.42bis?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 04:11:13 GMT
Organization: PeachNet
Distribution: world
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X-XXMessage-ID: <A775118620010438@charles-home.oit.peachnet.edu>
X-XXDate: Sat, 9 Jan 93 05:34:30 GMT

I was recently told that the old V-Series Hayes modems used a more robust,
and proprietary, encoding scheme than v.42(bis).

Anyone know anything about it?

Charles
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed)
Subject: Re: A Telebit FAX upgrade FLAME (Was: "Re: WB Fax Upgrade")
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
Keywords: Telebit  FAX  documentation
Organization: Gainfully unemployed
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:48:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.182313.22435@news2.cis.umn.edu> alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan) writes:
>> [about lack of documentation for fax commands]
>
>Actually, no fax modem I have seen has ever had any documentation on the
>commands to control the fax capabilities. Admittedly, that's only a sample
>of 2 different modems, but it looks as if it's standard practise not to
>supply this information (possibly because its not useful for the average
>end-user).

It's certainly useful to someone who tries to run a PD software package like
GNU NetFax or Sam Leffler's FlexFAX package, and needs to know certain things
if said packages fail to work.

>You can get hold of documents describing the Class-1 and Class-2 protocols
>from several BBS's - I saw a copy which had originated from Supra.
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Key phrase - "originated from Supra".  I got nothing from Telebit; not even
any pointers on where to find said documents!  What if I had no Internet
access?  The vendors should provide the necessary documents, period.  I don't
need any vendors deciding what is "not useful for the average end-user" (and
thus not provided) for me ...

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From: burgoyne@access.digex.com (J. Robert Burgoyne)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Crosstalk for Windows- upload Zmodem thrash
Date: 6 Jan 1993 18:39:47 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

The new version 2.0 takes care of the problem. It's got numerous bugs/features
that I don't care much for, but it's worth the $49, all in all.


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From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
Subject: Re: Detecting TurboPEP
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:59:44 GMT
Organization: Izot's Swamp

km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:

> Is there a way to detect from the connect message, whether a WB
> has reached another WB with TurboPEP, as opposed to hitting a
> TB+ or T2500 with PEP. All the variations of X settings and 
> S59 seem to give me "FAST" one way or another.
> 
> In fact is there any way to detect the Telebit model of the remote
> modem, short of using the remote access capability (if it were
> enabled).

   I have yet to read a WB manual, but I doubt that there would be.  That is 
sad, since there are now three distinct levels of PEP performance:

PEP:            FastLink, V1 TrailBlazer, T1000 (11 kbps)
PEP2:           V2 TrailBlazer and later, T2500, T2000, etc. (18 kbps)
TurboPEP:       WorldBlazer (23 kbps)

  Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
geoff@zswamp.uucp, [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff (416)258-8467
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Class 2 FAX modem AT commands documentation (Re: Telebit FAX upgrade)
Keywords: Telebit  FAX  documentation
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  8 Jan 93 16:59:54 GMT

earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:

>Even if Telebit was enjoined from distributing a version of the modem commands
>for FAX, by CCITT or otherwise, don't you think that the least they could do
>is to *tell* you that, and direct you to where you *can* purchase them?  If I
>had no Usenet access, I'd have no idea what to do/where to go.  That is part
>of my point - a little information is better than no information, which is what
>I got for my $99 - no information.

->If yes, I think you shouldn't flame Telebit that much.  Anyway, if you need
->those docs, I think you can buy them CCITT directly, though they are likely
->to be expensive.  BTW, I think all of the FAX modems which conforms to the
->CCITT standards use the same set of commands for basic FAX capabilities (like
->the AT commands for low speed data modems), e.g. they all use AT+FCLASS=? to
->determined the supported FAX protocols.

Actually, what Telebit needs to distribute is documentation of what *they*
support.  This may or may not be the entire CCITT standard, and could include
a disclaimer to that effect.  But surely there can be no problem with merely
documenting their own code.

-- 
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From: wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Can I upgrade a 16450 uart to a 16550a?
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:01:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C0pp9s.EJq
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <3653@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham) writes:
>
>looking things hidden under the power supply. It turns out they
>looked funny because they were VLSI's not UARTS. Live and learn....

Well, I'm a bit hesitant to post this, since we are now delving into 
something that is borderline off-topic, and just plain petty however..

	#1	I do agree with you about Jim's reply...  The post he was
		replying to concerning "sales droids who are clueless" 
		qualified (at least in my eyes) as wrong, since the original
		poster did mention that Dell told him he had "a VLSI" (sic)
		and that this in itself disqualified him from having a real
		16450..

	#2	Your use of terms is incorrect here....  In the above portion
		I quoted, you should have said ASIC instead of VLSI.  VLSI
		is just a description of how many logic gates are used in
		the design.  What you should have said was that Dell uses
		ASICs (Application Specific Integrated Circuits) implemented
		in VLSI (Very Large Scale Integration).  You see now that you
		cant compare VLSI to a UART (very much like Apples to Oranges)
		You either have to say ASIC compared to a UART, or a VLSI
		compared to a LSI (I supposed a UART is possibly an MSI device
		as well since im not familiar with the 16x50 family at the bare
		hardware level).

Scott
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From: john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: TELEPATH PRELIM REPORT
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:08:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp (John Navas) 

FIRST A LITTLE HISTORY FOR THOSE THAT MISSED MY ORIGINAL POSTINGS:
With a *lot* of effort I finally persuaded Gateway 2000 to sell
Telepath V.32bis internal fax/modems without requiring the purchase of
a computer system.  The price is only a little over $200 with shipping
and handling.

I just received the Telepath that I ordered, and this is a preliminary
evaluation report.

Packaging is nothing to write home about -- the card is wrapped in a
lot of bubble pack but is left to tumble about inside a large FedEx
box with the heavy bundle of manuals (also in bubble pack).  However,
it seemed unharmed by the shipping experience.

The modem itself is an 8-bit half-card.  There was one patch wire, as
well as a small daughtercard.  (I suspect that these were added to fix
the well-known problems in the first release of the product.)  The
data pump is Rockwell.

The documentation is good and complete, and the bundled software
includes Qmodem, Crosstalk for Windows and WinFax, making the package
an even better value.

I installed the Telepath as COM2 in a Micronics 486DX-25 ISA system
and ran an extensive series of data communications tests, calling a
wide variety of modems (including some known problem modems) all over
the country.  Connections were consistent, at the highest possible
speed, solid and reliable.

I then ran a series of tests comparing file transfer performance
against a USR Sportster 14400 over a known good local link to a Hayes
Ultra.  The test file was a large (200Kb) compressed (ZIP) file.  The
communications program at my end was Procomm Plus for Windows 1.01; at
the other end was an Auntie BBS.  The file transfer protocol was
ZMODEM.  The results:  both upload and download speeds were identical
for the Telepath and the Sportster.

Overall I am impressed and so far satisfied with the Telepath.  Once I
accumulate more experience I'll post an update here.

Best regards,
John
   
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From: usdpd@emory.edu (Dave Dykes)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: DALLAS FAX...
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:27:07 GMT
Organization: Emory University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Greetings-
	Last week I posted a flame to this group directed toward a company by 
the name of Dallas FAX. I posted because they had been inconsistent, to say
the least, in their dealings with me.
	The day after I posted my experience, a concerned party from Dallas
contacted me.  He looked into my problem and we were able to reach an amenable
agreement.
	The moral of my story:  The folks at Dallas FAX aren't so bad after all,
and never underestimate the audience of "the net."
			-Dave

PS-  	The product I am getting is a v32bis/FAX/Voice Mail modem, Dallas
	FAX is due to have such a beast in March for a price that will
	suprise you.