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	id <ib29896@pro-acsd.cts.com>; Fri, 11 Sep 92 08: 18 PDT
From: glennl@pro-acsd.cts.com (Glenn Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PD WORDSEARCH!!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:11:17 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-acsd] Apple Corps of San Diego

but did you get one, I have uploaded one to the data library of this bbs
for you
From: buchholz@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jacob S. Buchholz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: BOCA 14.4kbaud faxmodem
Date: 10 Sep 1992 19:54:16 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

I'm curious if anyone out there in net-land has had any experience with
the BOCA 14.4kbaud faxmodem (external, of course)...

I'd also like a kind of summary as to any specific cabling, inits, parameter
setups I'd need to get this (or any other high-speed v.32/v.32bis/v.42/v.42bis)
running on my GS's modem port.

Email would be preferred, and thanks much.

jake
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: Keypress function in pascal?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:49:45 GMT

Paul Benson writes
> In <1992Sep5.170740.54265@qut.edu.au> hollandd@qut.edu.au writes:
> >But to the point.  Does there exist in Orca pascal a function that
> >will return a keypress without waiting for return to be pressed?
> >Not as far as I can tell from the manual?
> 
> Not that I know of in Pascal (I don't own ORCA/Pascal), but you may want
> to look deeper in the manual or in some of the sample codo on the sample
> disk.  I know there is a routine in the C manual (but I think that is
> just to show off the mini-assembler).  So, you have a few of options.
> Learn how to access memory directly in ORCA/Pascal and check the keyboard
> latches.  OR write the assembly routine with the miniassembler as in the
> C manual and then link it into your Pascal program.  OR use some tool
> calls (Either GetChar or thru the event manager).  Ask someone with
> ORCA/Pascal as to which USING directive to use for the text toolset and
> how to actually call GetChar should you wish to use that.
> 
> Pauley
> GEnie: P.Benson1

	Well, you could also do it the more "Apple perferred way" by using
the event manager and just getting the next key event. Its easy and works quite  
well. Other ways could also be done by using the console driver and getting  
input from there in no-wait-mode, but thats only for text applications (but can  
the console driver be used for input while graphical applications are running.  
hmm...) but if you are in graphics, you should use the event manager, because  
much of Apple's desktop interface uses the event manager anyways...

| Hal Bouma                            | Send mail to: HBouma@Macalstr.edu    |
| Macalester College, St. Paul, MN.    | and           HBouma@Macalstr.Bitnet |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Re: Reply by email flame
Originator: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:09:28 GMT

From article <9209011245.AA19520@apple.com>, by pauley@VNET.IBM.COM ("P. H. Benson ", Paul):
> Why is it that today I've seen 3 'please do not post, reply by email'
> requests?  I've been noticing them more and more.  Sure, some things
> should be done in email (such as flames, or frequently answered answers,
> or explaining something in greater detail), but the three I saw were
> general interest.  My attitude:  if you don't want to join the community,
> then you should not reap the benefits.  There was a similar discussion
> like this in sci.electronics.  Just thought of another example where it
> would be okay; if someone is posting for a friend.
> Discussion?
> 
> Pauley
> GEnie: P.Benson1
> My opinions are my own and not those of IBM.

I used to read this group regularly. Today I got on, and VN says that there
are 35 unread pages. Maybe its time to break this group up. There's just
too damn much volume.
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple Stupidity (was Re: Where does ProDOS come from?)
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:50:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Sep10.190124.2225@cci632.cci.com>, fjs@cci632.cci.com
(Francis Schwalm) wrote:
> 
> I'm gonna be completely blunt here.  Whatever stupidity ever possessed apple
> to release it that way?  The idea behind the name ProDOS -8- is 8-bit, right?
> So how come only the apple users who have a GS can get a hold of it?  If you
> don't have a GS you can't get it, EVEN THOUGH it was designed to be used by
> the 8-bit apple ]['s.  I hope apple has a whopper of an explanation...
> 
> I'm gonna ask again:  Can someone AT apple put ProDOS 2.0.1 on ftp.apple.com
> for those of us who have trouble fitting an 800K disk in a 140K floppy.
> 
Gosh, and after being so polite to Apple too, how could Apple refuse,
considering all this stuff, including ftp.apple.com, is done by people
on their own time and is not an official distribution method.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:58:13 GMT

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>There is more to a terminal protocol than cursor movement codes!  I
>think the ANSI and VT-100 implementation of some codes differ
>slightly.  Also, systems that specifically talk to VT-100 terminals
>use some codes that are not part of the ANSI standard.  I don't know
>what codes these are, all I know is that on some systems, an "ANSI"
>emulation doesn't work, but a "VT-100" emulation does.

  Yep.. ANSI is another example of the IBM PC world taking a standard,
mutating it arbitrarily, and then claiming it as a new "standard".

>Can anyone point me to an official (or at least reasonably complete)
>definition of the VT-100, etc. and ANSI terminal standards?

  Call Tektronix and see if you can get the programmers info for one
of their 4000 series terminals.  That's what I used as a reference for
TelCom.  In addition, I also used a vt100 tester program that Dave Whitney
provided me.  These two sources gave TelCom the vt100 capabilities users
rave about.  Okay, so that sounds like an ad, and it is.  TelCom is FREE!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,misc.forsale.computers
From: Big.Fun@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Peter McAleer)
Subject: ** Re List of Apple IIgs **
Reply-To: Big.Fun@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Peter McAleer)
Organization: The Magic BBS (Debug Computer Services)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:46:31 GMT
Keywords: 
 
 

I have been getting many offers from people which are definitely
unreasonable.  I have seen IIe's and IIc's going for more money then what
I have been getting on a loaded IIgs.  So again, I will post what it has,
and what I would like.  I will not split the system, as a GS is pretty
useless unless it has essentials like a monitor, hard drive, and other
goodies.
 
1 - Apple IIgs
    Apple RGB Monitor
    AE conserver
    1 - Apple 3.5"
    1 - Disk II with controller
    105 meg hard drive 12 ms access time
    Ramfast SCSI controller with 256k cache
    3 megs of RAM
    AE Sounblaster
    AE Transwarp GS
    Supramodem 2400
    Panasonic KX-P1080i
    Joystick, software, disks, System 6.0
 
This system has been pampered.  I would like to see about 1400 dollars,
 
If anyone has any offers around this price please send to
Big.Fun@debuc.cuc.ab.ca[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D
[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[A[C[C[C[C[CB[C[C[CF[Cn[C[C[C[C[
C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: Monopoly GS -- where is it?
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 17:04:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

 If Monopoly GS is available via FTP, let me know please.

- Scott

-- 

Scott Allen Steinbrink
 
NetCom: Derich@netcom.com
CompuServe: 76106.2055@CompuServe.Com 
America Online: Derichman
Bitnet: 11sstein%galluj.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu (* COMING SEPT 8TH! *)

All opinions and remarks are not my responsbility - it's my own
mind's full responsbility. I just speak what it commands me to say. 

"Deaf people can do anything except hear" - I. King Jordan
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: DOS 3.3 Launcher
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:37:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep7.010309.14804@fawlty.towers.oz.au> johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean) writes:
>The DOS 3.3 Launcher v1.1 is now being distributed - so keep your eyes
>out.  [Don't ask me to post it to comp.binaries.apple2 - it's shareware].

So whats the problem with posting Shareware programs to comp.binaries.apple2?

It's allowed.

>In case you missed the previous description it lets you store old DOS
>3.3 programs and games that use RWTS routines (but not DOS) on your hard
>disk, and launch them from the GS finder (returning when you're finished
>via a CDA).

[...]
 
>John MacLean.
>-- 
>This net: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au                   Phone: +61 2 427 2999
>That net: uunet!fawlty.towers.oz.au!johnmac             Fax:   +61 2 427 7072
>Snail:    Tower Technology, 1 Apollo Pl,                Home:  +61 2 449 5930
>          Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia.


Rich

payner@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Information about ][+
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 04:15:54 GMT

In article <lalhr0INNol8@news.bbn.com> hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.023750.26285@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> hpoe@nyx.cs.du.edu  
>(Howard Poe) writes:
>> This computer is best off running DOS 3.3.  It can run ProDOS with a  
>different
>> ROM chip in the Disk Controller Board in slot 6.
>
>Really?  Hmm.  There was a ROM update to use ProDOS?  My computers are all  
>pretty old (I have a ][+ and a clone of one), and I can run ProDOS 1.0.1, which  

There were never any ROM upgrades for the II Plus.  The only upgrade I
can think of is for the boot code, to upgrade from the 13-sector to
16-sector ROM--and if you're still using 13-sector ROMs, you can't
boot even DOS 3.3, let alone ProDOS.

Odds are nobody is using 13-sector boot ROMs anymore.  As long as you
have 64K, you can use any version of ProDOS 8 up to (and including)
1.9.  (v2.0 and 2.0.1 require a 128K enhanced IIe as a minimum.)

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!                      Fidonet: 1:209/765
(IIe (  TEMPORARILY OFFLINE    Apple II/IBM
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Modula-2 for the Apple IIGS
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:07:08 GMT

akostur@fraser.sfu.ca (Andre John Kostur) writes:

[About Modula-2 compilers]

>Shareware or commercial?

The latter. Both of them. I do not know who will distribute the German Modula-2
in the US, or how it compares to the ORCA Modula-2.

It is apparently available, and the guys that did it had some benchmarks that
showed it drowning ORCA/Pascal ;-).

Soenke
P.S.: As for C++ ... couldn't we just port the front-end? Might be that AT&T
would go berserk, but what the heck ... it's just the lowly // ;-) Just
kidding.
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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ByteWorks and Talking Tools (was Re: phonem dictionary)
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:43:15 GMT

You should upgrade to Shell version 2.0 to get the new editor and utilities.

What's this Orca/C v1.3.1 stuff?  I'm using v1.3... was there an upgrade I
wasn't notified about?

- Eric S.

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--------------------------------+-----------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Blue Helmet
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:50:03 GMT


To: Steve Jorgensen
Re: Blue Helmet

Oh boy. The plot thickens. I uploaded Blue Helmet to c.b.a2. I also applied
a patch before I uploaded it, so that it would steer correctly on a ROM3. I
just assume it works, as I don't own a ROM3.

But, I do own a ROM01, and the version I uploaded steers to the right and
left on my machine. If you want to restore Blue Helmet to its non-patched
version as supplied by the FTA, go to block $01C3, byte $01AD and change the
$50 back to a $40.

For anyone who hasn't yet downloaded Blue Helmet, do so at your own risk.
Just be aware that many people are reporting having problems with it.

Sorry....

Joe Kohn
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:47:40 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Proterm file transfer & aplleworks files
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Sep10.195221.16348@ll.mit.edu>

In <1992Sep10.195221.16348@ll.mit.edu> Alan Yasutovich writes:
>   I am trying to transfer files from a sun to my apple IIc.
>   I am able to transfer the file to a disk, but the appleworks
>   software doesn't recognize it; it's in the wrong format.

Well, more than likely the (text?) files you are getting from your sun are
straight ASCII files.  AW does not read those in directly.  You have to
Create New Document->From ASCII File->(provide pathname), and that should
read it in.  If this is what you are doing, then something else is messed
up.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: eprie@CCMAIL.AA.HCIA.COM (eprie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: 'DISK ENCRYPTION SYSTEM' by Victor Zirak
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:21:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


    Hi All,
       HELP!  we need to read in data files from diskettes which were
    written to by a program in DOS 3.3 which was encrypted by the DISK
    ENCRYPTION SYSTEM.
       The diskettes are currently readable only if the system was
    booted from an encrypted DOS 3.3 system.  I've tried to encrypt a
    PRODOS system diskette but it wont boot.

       Does anyone have any info on decrypting these diskettes? Or on
    Victor Zirak?

       BTW - We've also got something called 'locksmith 4.1'.  But
    we've long since lost any doco (or any programmers who were here
    10 years ago.)  It looks like it might be for recovering data from
    damaged diskettes, but I cant tell for sure.  Anyone know what it
    does?

       Please respond by email as our newsnet feed does not deliver
    comp.sys.apple2

       Thanks, Eric Priebe - eprie@aa.hcia.com
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: AutoArc (Looks like Staker for GS)
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:33:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.195015.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsemm@acad3.alaska.edu (Edward M. Moore) writes:
>In A+/Incider, on page 60 (In the back with all the little companies), in the
>corner there is an add by Econ Technologies for a product called AutoArc, for
>the IIgs.  Basically, the add describes autoarc as a finder extention and desk
>acessory that compresses + expands applications + documents on the fly.  I'd
>like to know why none of this has been mentioned on the net, assuming that
>there really is such a product.......  With all the people wanting something
>like Auto-Doubler......
>
>
>-- 
>===============================================================================
>Edward M. Moore     |  Internet:  FSEMM@acad3.alaska.edu or FSEMM@Alaska.bitnet
>Box 900316          |  Bitnet:    FSEMM@Alaska
>Univeristy of Alaska|  IRC:	  Imana
>Fairbanks, AK, 99775|  Telephone: (907) 474-7537
>===============================================================================

I called ECON about AutoArc.  They are trying to get it ready for release
before AppleFest -East (in Oct. I think).  It isn't really like AutoDoubler 
on the Mac but more like DiskDoubler.  It is a finder extension/CDEV combo
which allows you to compress files by "selection".  However, files will 
automatically decompress when double clicked ( AWGS data files for example).

I think this is better than an AutoDoubler type of program due to the CPU
constraints of the IIgs.

(... by "selection" is pretty vague.  What I mean is that you select the
compress option from the Extras menu in the Finder and AutoArc will go to
work!  I didn't get any further details than this but the program does look
promising).

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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From: afcdaves@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Posting to the Net from AOL
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:50:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I just wanted to see if it was possible, in case of extreme emergency :)  I'm
also curious if these lines will wrap...I bet they won't and piss off a lot
of people.  You know, you can't say "piss" on AOL in a public area.

Prism is supposed to be done!  The ball is now in the hands of NewConcepts. 
Any word on Lord High Giffer?  (was that a question I wasn't supposed to ask?
:)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
id <m0mRjL2-0000JfC@crash.cts.com>; Mon, 7 Sep 92 06: 41 PDT
	id <i723001@pro-nsdapple.cts.com>; Mon,  7 Sep 92 06: 23 PDT
From: larryc@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Larry Colton)
Subject: Re: Chess
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 06:04:52 PDT

In <1992Sep5.212141.1813@pro-freedom.cts.com>
colbyp@pro-freedom.cts.com (Colby Pederson) writes:

>
>  I was just wondering if anybody has a chess game for the Apple IIgs.  I
>can't find any around here and I not joined to any of the major companies
>(GEnie, Compuserve, etc.).  If anyone has the time, could they please
>upload a copy to comp.sys.binaries.   Thanks.
>
>                                        Colby Pederson
>

Colby, I am unaware of any freeware or shareware chess games.  If the are, I
too would like to hear of them!

--Larry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple //e (enhanced) upgrades?
From: kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:01:10 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Sorry; I didn't really answer your question. 


Best Upgrades: 
1.  A RamWorks 1MB memory card. Critical to making AppleWorks run well. 
2.  an SCSI Hard Drive. Alternatively, one of the internal power supply
replacement/HD's, like the AE VULCAN or the InnerDrive. 
3.  3.5" disk drives. 

Appleworks is, IMHO, the best single program EVER WRITTEN for a computer.
It'll do almost everything, especially when expanded with the TimeOut
utilities. But it takes a lot of memory and almost REQUIRES 3.5 inch disks
to work well. 


As a complete alternative; your system as set up is worth perhaps $400.
Depending on your tax bracket, it might be more adventagous to donate it
to a local school for the tax write-off. Remember that most schools still
depend on Apple II systems; it would be welcomed. 

Ken Mitchell
kmitche@eis.calstate.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: fsemm@acad3.alaska.edu (Edward M. Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Hard Drive problems, Low Level format didn't help!
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:28:19 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I've got a serious problem with my hard drive.  I have an apple IIgs computer
with a Syquest 44 MB removable drive.  About 3 weeks ago, I recieved an error
while doing a backup with Archiver.  Subsequent verifying (via finder) stated
that my Shoebox's Desktop file was corruped.  I deleted the file, then replaced
it, verified again (no error), and thought that was the end of it.

Last week, I recieved another error while backing up.  I baked everything up I
could (lost my Shoebox's Desktop file again), did a low-level format and
repartition (via apple's SCSI utilities disk that came with my High speed SCSI
card).  I replaced everything, and verified.  No problem.

Today, I did another verify, and the error re-appered on teh same place on thfe
partition, but this time it nailed my main Shoebox file.  I'm replaced all the
salvagable data (everything but shoebox) on another cartridge.  Now, then, is
my current cartrage unuable, considering that a low-level format didn't even
help?  Is there anything I can do at this point besides tossing the $70
cartrige?

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Box 900316          |  Bitnet:    FSEMM@Alaska
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===============================================================================
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: More help for the dummy...
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:41:18 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

To unpack a '.tar' (Tape ARchive) file, type the following on your Unix box:

tar -vfx filename.tar

To unpack a '.shar' (SHell ARchive) file, type the following (again only on
Unix):

filename.shar

You may need to execute-enable a shar file before the system will allow you
to run it...do a 

chmod filename.shar 777  

and all should be well.  (yes, I know that enables more permissions than are
actually needed =).

There is no real advantage to using these types of archives, but they are the
standard for Unix/Ultrix/SunOS/HP-UX/A-UX/AIX/Linux/etc systems.  I undersand
that the 'tar' utility is also avalible for GNO and possibly also the other
shells like Orca, ECP-16, etc.

  
-- 
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 Data  dc i'Apple IIgs,Rush,Tiny Toons,Ren & Stimpy,Dave Barry,David Letterman'
   "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will" - Neil Peart
From: ztsindi@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (The Independents - SUNY Buffalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Programming
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	There is also a Lisp varient called Scheme available for the 
GS.
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