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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #271
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:55:27 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 12 Nov 92       Volume 10 : Issue 271

Today's Topics:

      [*] Fist Fighters
      [*] Maple V Demo
      [*] Personal Bomb! 1.0.1
      [*] Re: Mini Chihuahua Mini Chihuahua Mini Chihuahua Mini Chihua
      [*] replacement of NEW-teeny-deriver.sit.hqx
      [*] StackPacker 1.0.1
      Alternative to Chooser for printer selection?
      Anagrams <-> Ars Magna
      Apple TrueType Font Pack
      Archives on CD-ROM
      Ars Magna/Anagrams/A Rags Man
      Balloon creator/ TeX fonts.
      Cant empty trash (Q)
      ClarisWorks and Virex???
      Coprocessor not installed?
      Ethernet Cards for IIsi (Q)
      I think you are the one to ask
      Long signatures & disclaimers
      Mac and Espon FX printer ??
      Mail Order ADVISORY!
      Mystery file in Apple Menu Items (Q)
      Need help importing 3D DXF files
      None
      PowerBook 100's available
      Printing fonts
      Quadra 900/Hard disk Icon
      quicktime15.image???
      Startup Screen disappears before extensions load
      Upgrade program for Personal LaserWriter LS in the USA ?
      X Windows on the Mac

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:07:01 PST
From: cokin@scf.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Subject: [*] Fist Fighters

This is a karate game by Cellusoft.  Cellusoft is the one man operation that
brought us Movod I & II, and Mr. MakeMagic (which I haven't seen).  Like the
Movod games, Fist Fighters has good graphics but still isn't that great a
game.  This game does look good, but the game play is bad.  One or two
players,
256 colors required.  I'm posting it because some people expressed intrest
in it, but I don't really like it myself.

						    Darren

[Archived as /info-mac/game/fist-fighters.hqx; 678K]

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:00:05 EST
From: J S Greenfield <greeny@top.cis.syr.edu>
Subject: [*] Maple V Demo

This is a demo for Maple V.  (The demo is actually a user-controllable
movie of Maple V in action, doing different things...)

For those of you who don't know, Maple V is a symbolic and numeric math
package, similar to Mathematica.  However, the student version of Maple V
is only $99, and *does* include an FPU version, for those of us who are
lucky ebough to have FPUs! :)  Also, Maple uses a relatively small core,
along with library modules, so that it is much less demanding than
Mathematica in the RAM department.

The demo has an 800 number for ordering, in case you decide you are
interested.

Enjoy.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/maple-v.hqx; 969K]

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 12:30:49 GMT+13:32
From: Kenji Takeuchi <takeuchi@uhuru.uchicago.edu>
Subject: [*] Personal Bomb! 1.0.1

Version 1.0.1.
Personal Bomb! is a small program which displays a fake but
real looking System Error alert with your name on it.
Check it out!  Great joke!

System 6 compatible, System 7 Savvy.

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/personal-bomb-101.hqx; 9K]

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Date: 12 Nov 1992 8:48:02CST6CDT
From: "Mark Thacker...CC1 LAN Manager" <Mark_Thacker@unt.edu>
Subject: [*] Re: Mini Chihuahua Mini Chihuahua Mini Chihuahua Mini Chihua

Attached is a sound of my miniature chihuahua growling at the microphone of
my Mac Quadra 950!  It makes for a really cute Empty Trash sound in
SoundMaster!

This was sampled at 22Khz in Sample Editor and then exported using Mace 3 to
1 compression.  This reduced the 176K file to 70K without any real loss in
clarity.  It is Binhexed.

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/mini-chihuahua.hqx; 81K]

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:47:58 +0300
From: amit@newton.bgu.ac.il (amit ailon)
Subject: [*] replacement of NEW-teeny-deriver.sit.hqx

I have added to your archive a file called NEW-teeny-deriver.sit.hqx.
I forgot the archive was password protected (oops...) so please replace
it with the following file which is a self extracting archive (encoded with
Binhex 4.0)
The file is called NEW-teeny-deriver-1.1.cpt.hqx

HEADER OF FILE:
NEW-teeny-deriver is an easy-to-use application for symbolic derivation of
functions.
It can deal with any trigonometric, inverse-trigonometric, hyperbolic
inverse-hyperbolic,algebric and complex functions.
To use it, download it, then decode it by Binhex 4. It will create a self
extracting file that will create 2 files:
1 - the application
2 - the help file

Please read the help file . . .

[Archived as /info-mac/app/new-teeny-deriver-11.hqx; 32K]

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 12:34:27 GMT+13:32
From: Kenji Takeuchi <takeuchi@uhuru.uchicago.edu>
Subject: [*] StackPacker 1.0.1

Version 1.0.1.

Freeware HyperCard utility which compacts stacks in batches
(i.e. many at a time) resulting in a large amount of disk space
saved at once.  Extremely useful to all HyperCard users!

Requries HyperCard 2.0 or higher.  System 6 and 7 compatible.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/stack-packer-101.hqx; 6K]

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 11:42:25 -0800
From: Michael_Hayward@sfu.ca
Subject: Alternative to Chooser for printer selection?

System 7 aliases are an extremely handy way of mounting networked
AppleShare volumes without having to navigate through the Chooser each time
- is there an equivalent shortcut that would allow one to select another
printer, again, without having to brave the Chooser?

I would like something that could be accessed via the Apple Menu Items
folder that, when selected, would either

1) switch immediately to a single, predetermined printer (i.e: an Apple
Menu item that corresponds to an individual printer)

or

2) bring up a configurable (short) list of printers that are commonly used.

Does anyone know of such a beast?

...Michael Hayward              hayward@sfu.ca

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 10:11:39 EST
From: Ephraim Vishniac <ephraim@Think.COM>
Subject: Anagrams <-> Ars Magna

   From: "Russell Aminzade: Trinity College of VT"
									      An
   Someone else asked about an anagram unscrambler.  Many years ago
   I downloaded a neat program called ARS MAGNA...

   On my Mac SE, it had a nasty habit of blanking out parts of the
   screen if you ran it under multifinder.  When I moved to a IICX,
   the program would no longer run at all.

Ars Magna still works on my Mac II running System 7.1. It covers the
entire screen for a console. As the Finder updates things in the
background, they poke through, get scrolled,... It's pretty weird, but
it does work.

   In the meantime, I had been trying to track the author down and
   send him the shareware fee.  I tried the BCS and the address in
   the readme file, but no luck.

The author, Mike Morton, is now mike@proponent.com. He's living in
Hawaii, although he occasionally comes here to Cambridge for a decent
lunch. I asked him for the source code a few years ago, and he told
me, "It's not that hard, just write something yourself."

Ephraim Vishniac    ephraim@think.com   ThinkingCorp@applelink.apple.com
 Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 06:34:26 EST
From: gt3017c@prism.gatech.edu
Subject: Apple TrueType Font Pack

Has anyone had a chance to look at Apple's new TrueType Font Pack?  If not,
you might want to take a second look.  From an initial comparison (memory, not
side by side), it looks like the new font pack is the same or mostly the same
as the LaserWriter TrueType fonts that we were always allowed to copy freely
from our local dealer (Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is/was the policy,
right?).  If this is the case, what gives?  Are we being taken for suckers, or
has the new policy of copying the LaserWriter TrueType fonts been 'revised'?
I came across this because the department down the hall bought a IIg and I saw
the font disks (I have not copied yet, until I get a concrete answer on any
past or present policy regarding the distribution of the disks), then I looked
into purchasing the font pack for our use.  The packs seem very much alike.
Any questions, comments, etc.. are welcome.

					--Bill Waits

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:37:39 GMT
From: simba@vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Archives on CD-ROM

   Some time ago it was mentioned that the info-mac archives had been
put onto CD-ROM and an address and price was given.
   I missed this at the time and I wondered if someone could give
this info. again.

Thanks,
R. Kirk

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:24 GMT
From: STCH8002%IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Ars Magna/Anagrams/A Rags Man

In a posting without a subject heading (grumble grumble) in
V10/269 Russell Aminzade (aka Nazi Slum Rulers) wonders
about the whereabouts of the author of the anagram generator
Ars Magna. I don't know either - but the app. is currently
advertised as part of the Games 5 (BB51A) disk of MacPremier-
ware in the Oct.30th issue of the UK version of MacUser so
Tony Tyler (the person mentioned there as having chosen the
selection) might have a lead. I've been thinking of buying Ars
Magna - has anyone managed to run it on a Quadra 700?
With thanks -
Fergus Lalor, Dept. of Chemistry, University College, Cork, Ireland.
STCH8002@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE

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Date: 12 NOV 92 10:33:13.01-GMT
From: FAVERGEO%FRESE51.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Balloon creator/ TeX fonts.

I know it exists a freeware, or shareware, for creating the resources needed
by
the balloon manager when you want to have the system7 help on-line in a soft.
I
think its name is Balloon Creator. Where can I FTP it ?

I am also looking for a freeware for creating TeX fonts. Does it exist ?

     Thanks


							    FAVERGEO@ese-gif.fr

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:21:09 +0100
From: "CHRISTIAN F. BUSER" <cbuser@pegasus.ch>
Subject: Cant empty trash (Q)

Can anyone tell me why this happened - it is new to me even
though I am a Macintosh users since the time of the ORIGINAL
Mac 128:

I moved a file into the trashcan and selected "Empty Trash"
>From the menu. The finder says "the trash is empty", although
the can's appearance says this is not true. When doubleclicking
the trash, I still see the file in it.

I've checked with ResEdit whether any unusual bit is set, but
this did not reveal anything. A restart did also not help.
At the end, I got rid of the file by creating a new empty folder
and moved it to the trash and then emptied it.

This worked, but, but I'd like to know how this can happen. Any ideas?

Info on my equipment: Mac Plus, 4mB RAM, System 7 tuned (International
English versions).
Extension folder has following contents:
Desktop Reset, Disk Doubler INIT, File Sharing, Foreign File Access,
NECCDDrvr, Network, System 7 Tuner, some CTB tools and printer drivers
for the LaserWriter and the ImageWriter.
Hard drive formatted and partitioned with SilverLining 5.31

Thank you for any suggestions, Christian      cbuser@pegasus.ch

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:20:25 GMT
From: Michael Everson <EVERSON%IRLEARN.UCD.IE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: ClarisWorks and Virex???

The Virex init seems to make ClarisWorks crash (address error or
illegal command) when you try to save a document. Turning it
off so it doesn't load fixes this, but leaves us vulnerable.
(We were just attacked by nVIR A, though I thought we wouldn't
be since we're running with the Disinfectant init.)

Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD, Richview, Clonskeagh, Dublin 14, E/ire
Phone: +353 1 706-2745  Fax: +353 1 283-7778  Home: +353 1 78-25-97

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Date: 12 Nov 92 08:37:31 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Coprocessor not installed?

     Coprocessor not installed?
I have a user that's getting this "coprocessor not installed" error message
and
system bomb whenever he tries to do graphing in Excel 3.0.  He's running on an
LC, running System 6.0.7, and 4 MB of RAM.  He said sometimes he'll get the
bomb after he's clicked on the graphing tool and drawn the graph window
rectangle.  As soon as he finishes drawing this rectangle and releases the
mouse button, it bombs.  Other times, it will draw the graph just fine, but
will bomb when he tries to close the graph window.  Sometimes, he has no
problems (albeit this being a seldom occurence).

Anybody have any ideas on what's going on here?  I remember a few months ago
someone asking about this "coprocessor" error message, but don't remember what
was the cause of or the solution to this problem.  Please help!

ADVAthanksNCE!

P.S.  I'm cross-posting this to Mac-L and Info-Mac.  Please respond directly
to
me; I'm no longer subscribed to Mac-L and I'm behind reading the Info-Mac
digests.  Thanks again!


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering,Cornell University
E-Mail:  Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:07:25 -0800
From: Josh Berman <jberman@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Subject: Ethernet Cards for IIsi (Q)

I am interested in buying an Ethernet card for my IIsi.  I have a DayStar
ComboCache installed, so I  need to buy a card that connects through a
PDS slot.  I would like to hear good and bad experiences from people who
have purchased Ethernet cards from Dayna, Farallon, TechWorks,
Asante, Focus or any other manufacturer.  Which cards are good,
which should I stay away from, etc...

Thanks for your help,
Josh Berman

 jberman@jarthur.claremont.edu    Harvey Mudd College,  Claremont, CA

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:19:03 -0500
From: kfb2@CS1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (Keenan Brock)
Subject: I think you are the one to ask

I have been using SystemSwitcher1.1 for some time.  But when you go from
system 6 to 7 it rebuilds the
desktop.  I used a init before called Desktop Manager, which i got from
SUMEX-AIM, but for some reason
when I went back to get another copy it was not here.

My question is this:
Are there other inits that will prevent this rebuilding?
Was Desktop Manager defective and removed for that reason.  Or was it not used
and I have no reasons to
	worry.

Please foreward or tell me who I should contact.  Thank you for your time.

Keenan Brock
kfb2@lehigh.edu

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:22 PDT
From: "RGB Technology, Inc/703-834-1500" <SATRE@cisco.nosc.mil>
Subject: Long signatures & disclaimers

To the moderator:
   I seem to remember some time back that you asked for people to restrain
themselves from using cute disclaimers and excessive signatures.  I cheered
that policy then and wonder if you could reiterate it now.  A blatant
example of getting carried away with a signature was in issue 268.  A certain
(nameless) person's simple message was:

> Where can I FTP MacOberon ?
>
> Thanks...

He then followed with a 19 line signature.   A one-liner seems to suffice
for most people...

[He's right.  I've had to bounce back a large fraction of messages with
long .sigs in the past few days.  Let me see, our official policy:

--
Long signatures are discouraged in the Info-Mac Digest because they use up
valuable space better used to distribute actual messages.  Our standard
requirements are:

1. One-line (80 character) signatures may contain anything.
2. Two-line (160 char.) signatures are allowed if they are just-the-facts --
   no ASCII graphics, quotations, etc.
3. No signatures longer than 160 characters are allowed.
--

We screen the messages as we put them in the digest, so every now and
then one gets through (ops!).  But, in general, a message will be
returned to the sender if the .sig dosen't match the above three rules.
Thanks for your hlep! -- Gordon]

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:41:18 +0100
From: Jordi Stephane <jordi@scsun.unige.ch>
Subject: Mac and Espon FX printer ??

Hello,
I just would like to know if it is possible to connect a Mac to an
EPSON FX printer ?
The EPSON FX printer has a parallel port, and the Mac has only serial
ports.
How can you connect them together ?

Thanks for any info !

Sincerely,
Steve Jordi-Dpt of Geophysics-U of Geneva-Switzerland-jordi@scsun.unige.ch

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:58:50 -0500
From: baim@aaec1.aaec.com
Subject: Mail Order ADVISORY!

We purchased a printer from Hardware and Software That Fits under their "30
Day MBG".  As the 30 days near an end, we have decided we don't like the
printer and called to return it.  They are ready to take it back BUT there
is a hidden requirement in their policy:  they must RECEIVE the printer by
the 30th day from the date of SHIPPING!  If you order something shipped by
UPS Ground (5-10 business days depending on where you are) and expect to
return it the same way, you may really have a 2 DAY MBG unless you are
willing to foot the bill for expensive shipping options both ways.  This
requirement is NOT printed in their ads, the shipping materials, invoice,
or anywhere else I have looked.

Buyer BEWARE!

Paul Baim

PS - I managed to twist their arm and get permission to ship it back ground
so it arrives "late" but this is not their normal policy and required a LOT
of self-righteous arm twisting!

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:39 PDT
From: "RGB Technology, Inc/703-834-1500" <SATRE@cisco.nosc.mil>
Subject: Mystery file in Apple Menu Items (Q)

I just noticed an item in my Apple Menu Items list for which
there is no corresponding file in the Apple Menu Items folder.
The item in question is Language Maker which is a component of the
Voice Navigator system.  Several months ago I was trying to help
a customer figure out the Voice Navigator and I installed the software
on my IIfx.  The Voice Navigator is long since gone and just today I
was doing some housecleaning and noticed the Language Maker item.
But there was no such file in the Apple Menu Items folder!  I even
checked for an invisible file using ResEdit: nothing.

Does anyone know what has happened and how I can get rid of this
item.  Note: Since the Voice Navigator software has been deleted
>From my disk, if I invoke Language Maker from the Apple menu, my
Mac crashes.

Steve Satre -- RGB Technology, Inc. -- Reston, VA

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:13 EST
From: B E W A R E ! ! ! Love Never Dies! <MCOHEN@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Need help importing 3D DXF files

Help me, help me please, if you can.  I'm having a difficult time importing a
seemingly large (760K) .DXF file into 3D modeling programs.  This DXF was
generated on Autocad (PC), recent version.  I've tried bringing this model
into Infini-D, Modelshop II and MacroModel.  Modelshop simply freaks.
Infini-D seems to import it alright, the objects even show up in the objects
list, but the objects have no dimensions and don't even display a bounding
box.  MacroModel chews on it for quite a while (wants 17MB RAM for the
import!), and eventually gives a DXF error.  It too will list the objects
without displaying a thing.

But before you think the DXF is completely messed, I can easily translate the
DXF to PICT (2D only) using MacLink (v5.0 I think).  The PICT file looks
great, but since I need to do a walk-through, it doesn't help much.

This is the largest DXF import I've attempted.  Smaller files have been fine.
If anyone has any experience importing large DXF files with greater success,
or knows a better way to handle this translation, please let me know.  EMail
works best, and if requested, I'll happily summarize here.  Many thanks.

...Mitch Cohen, MCohen@vax.clarku.edu

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:48:21 EST
From: Mark A. Saper <saper@umich.edu>
Subject: None

I have a new APS 128 Mbyte optical plugged into my Mac IIci.  It works well,
but the drive's noise though not loud is sometimes bothersome.  Does anyone
know an unendorsed method for unloading the disk's device driver so I could
safely turn off the power of the optical drive without hanging up the Mac?
APS says not to do it.

Thanks, Mark

Dr. Mark A. Saper, Biophysics Research Division            saper@umich.edu

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:56:35 -0500
From: "Steve Marsh"  <marsh2@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: PowerBook 100's available

Howdy, Just thought I'd pass on a recent (last night, 11/11) sighting of
Powebook 100 4/40 computers, with external floppy, for $899. at the Price Club
that just opened in Newington, VA (just south of Springfield & D.C. on
Interstate 95). I don't know how many they have left, and don't have a phone
number (sorry!), but the area code is 703.

- Steve Marsh  "marsh@anvil.nrl.navy.mil"   ;-)

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:34 CST
From: <SWAECHTER%UTMEM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Printing fonts

I am having trouble printing character sheets for my fonts.  Here's the
scenario:

All fonts, except for Chicago, Geneva, and Monaco, are in separate suitcases
and managed by CarpetBag.  When I use either FontClerk 4.1 or FontPrinter 2.1
to print character sheets or samples, two things happen: (a) the application
quits because of a "type 1" error; (b) the print monitor says the document
cannot be printed.  I used CarpetBag's "add folder" feature and restarted the
computer to make all of the fonts accessible to programs.  I also tried
printing some text in WordPerfect with one of the fonts in question, and that
would not print either.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
swaechter@utmem2.utmem.edu (internet)

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Date: 11 Nov 92 09:35:02 U
From: "Richard Tanner" <richard_tanner@msmailbo.gatech.edu>
Subject: Quadra 900/Hard disk Icon

I am having a problem changing my hard disk icon on my Quadra 900(using 7.0.1
and the new 7.1 system).  I have tried turning off sharing but could not paste
(in the "Get Info" window) a new icon to the hard disk.  I tried booting up
with the Extensions off and still no luck.

Any solutions or suggestions would be much appreciated.  Please respond to me
directly at:
richard.tanner@business.gatech.edu

Thanks.         -Richard

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 10:14:54 -0500
From: askoonce@unity.ncsu.edu (Tony Koonce)
Subject: quicktime15.image???

This subject has probably come up before, if so, sorry for wasting net space.
What is the file type .image and how do I decompress it or make it usable.
e-mail me with the answer if possible.
Thanx in advance.

Tony Koonce
askoonce@unity.ncsu.edu

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 11:28:12 -0500
From: wurst@cse.uconn.edu (Karl Wurst)
Subject: Startup Screen disappears before extensions load

     I recently backed-up, repartitioned my hard drive, and restored the
contents.  Everything is working fine, except for one thing: when I start
up, the startup screen appears, but disappears before the extensions load.
It used to stay on the screen while the extensions loaded.
     I did not restore my system folder completely from the backup, but
instead, after reinstalling the system on the repartitioned drive, I restored
only the files that were missing.  What could be the problem?  Could it be
some setting that is incorrect since I didn't copy everything back and used
some of the files as installed?  Does anyone have an idea?  Thanks for any
help you can give me.

Karl R. Wurst - wurst@cse.uconn.edu - UCONN Computer Science & Engineering

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 12:32:49 MET
From: nicky@fdn.org (Jean-Philippe NICAISE)
Subject: Upgrade program for Personal LaserWriter LS in the USA ?

Bonjour a` tous,

Is there an offer from Apple to upgrade a Personal LaserWriter LS
into a PLW NT or a PLW NTR ? The information is for the USA, not France.

This is for my brother who lives in the USA and plans to sells its
PLW LS in order to buy a PLW NT ot NTR. But since there is an upgrade
offer in France, there must be one in the USA. But at what priceJ?

Merci a vous,

Jean-Philippe
nicky@fdn.org

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:14:46 PST
From: ke_reich@rom.tcpl.ucalgary.ca
Subject: X Windows on the Mac

If anyone has information on X Windows packages on the mac, I would
appreciate hearing about them. I have looked at both MacX and Exodus and
neither package fits my needs.

My needs are fairly straightforward. I have an SCO Unix box running Open
DeskTop.  On this machine, I have a phone switch management package that is
X unaware.  However, In a SCO Term window, I am able to focus the mouse and
use the Xmouse to control the cursor for the management application. With
MacX, I am unable to get color windows, because MacX foolishly (and I
stress foolishly) creates new windows that have nothing to do with the Open
DeskTop screen, hence I lose color in the windows, and this is important to
the users. As well, focusing the mouse doesn't work, and mouse support is
critical.  Exodus at least gives me the color and mouse support, but it's
slower than pushing rope up a hill.  What is interesting to me is that my
Mac IIcx with A/UX running X is significantly faster than running Exodus on
my Mac IIci.

Again if anybody has information directing me to a better package (or
platform - a DOS machine running X will be significantly faster, but
politically incorrect :-).  Thanks in advance, and I will summarize to the
net, provided of course that there are answers.  As an aside, please reply
to the below listed address as I do not read info-mac.

Kevin Reichert                                 phone:   (403) 267-6290
ke_reich@rom.tcpl.ucalgary.ca                  fax:     (403) 267-8991

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