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From: jonas@beor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Josef Nelissen)
Subject: Antwerp -Wednesday results
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:05:42 GMT

$1.1 MILLION EUROPEAN COMMUNITY CHAMPIONSHIP
AT ANTWERP, BELGIUM
WEDNESDAY'S RESULTS

First Round
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Michael Stich d. Sergi Bruguera 7:6 3:6 7:6
Ivan Lendl d. Paul Haarhuis 7:5 6:1
John McEnroe d. Bart Wuyts 6:2 6:2

Second Round
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Richard Krajicek d. Grant Conell 6:4 6:4

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From: pujara@thrush.acs.csulb.edu (Dipen Pujara)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Becker's coach
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:19:26 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <1992Nov12.104703.1@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca>  
zhangl@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca writes:
> Becker's coach is Gunther Bresnik, current Austrian Davis Cup captain who  
blew
> out Canada from World Group last September.           Lin

What would he do if Austria is pitted against Germany in a Davis Cup tie?
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From: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari)
Subject: Re: Paris final/Oakland semifinal results
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:16:51
In-reply-to: csmith@cc.gatech.edu's message of Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:23:25 GMT

>   Josef Nelissen writes:
>
>   > According to the german commentator Becker will with a 99.99% security
 >  > participate in the ATP final at Frankfurt.
>
>   Guy Forget can still edge out Becker for spot #8 if he does well in the
>   Antwerp tournament.  I'm not sure exactly how "well" Forget has to do,
>  but my guess is that he'd probably have to win the tournament.  
>
>   ..Chris


I don't see that from the rankings that were posted today. If Forget
edged out anyone, it would be Lendl(#8) (hope not),Korda(#7) or Chang(#6) for
that matter. 

With Becker at #5, he seems all set to well in Frankfurt


- Hari
From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: WTA Women's Money Leaders: November 8th
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 21:51:21 EST

WOMEN'S TENNIS LEADING MONEY WINNERS 
       (THROUGH NOVEMBER 8TH)
 
 1. Monica Seles          $1,872,352
 2. Steffi Graf           $1,257,139
 3. Arantxa Sanchez       $1,119,405
 4. Gabriela Sabatini       $887,065
 5. Natalia Zvereva         $570,594
 7. Martina Navratilova     $549,433
 6. Mary Joe Fernandez      $545,408
 8. Jana Novotna            $437,184
 9. Gigi Fernandez          $430,387
10. Larisa Savchenko        $366,602

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From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Tournament Update: Nov 7 am
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 08:08:01 EST
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

$350,000 BANK OF WEST CLASSIC
AT OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA
FRIDAY'S RESULTS  
QUARTERFINALS
-------------
Monica Seles (1) d. Iva Majoli, 6-3,6-1
Martina Navratilova (2) d. Natalia Zvereva, 6-2,6-2
Anke Huber (3) d. Pam Shriver, 6-2,6-4
Katerina Maleeva (4) d. Patty Fendick, 4-6,6-1,6-1
 
The Semifinal match up:

Monica Seles Vs Anke Huber
Martina Navratilova Vs Katerina Maleeva
 
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From: ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  )
Subject: Sampras-address
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:01:55 GMT

I found several requests for fanpost-addresses, so I'll add mine:
(no, not my fanpost-address, my request, of course ;-) )

Does anybody know an adequate address of Pete Sampras?

   Cordula
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From: g_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com (Glenn R. Waugaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: John Valentin
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:00:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1992Nov10.171018.20510
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Nov8.224601.9018@panix.com>, spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes...
>In <1992Nov8.054401.12636@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
> 
>>In article <1di5oeINNeot@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST402747@brownvm.brown.edu (blomberg cepeda) writes:
> 
>Valentin's MLE's - all properly park adjusted - for the past three years,
>and his STATS projection for next year:
> 
>	AVG	OBP	SLG
>1990	.215	.261	.315
>1991	.231	.319	.356
>1992	.234	.310	.353
>1993 P	.239	.313	.358
> 
>The minor league MLEs cover about 1000 plate appearances.  I'm inclined
>to believe that his .276/.351/.427 was just a result of the small sample
>size (200 PAs).  Yes, New Britain is a terrible hitters' park, but even after
>you adjust for that Valentin doesn't look particularly special.  And remember,
>all these numbers are adjusted not to a neutral major league park, but to
>Fenway, a great hitters' park.

From observations of the kind of hitter Valentin is (a pull hitter with
some power), I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him post much better
numbers in Fenway than the projection above, perhaps even 50 points of OPS
to up over the .700 mark.  Valentin has much more power than players like
Marty Barrett or Jody Reed, who both took almost no advantage from Fenway
Park.  I think Valentin might be one of the guys on the other side of the 
average effect, the uppercut-swinging middle infielder that you usually
don't like to see swinging for the fences (Reed seems to have caught this
disease, to tell you the truth, and he's the last guy who should be
adopting this approach). 

Wade Boggs is definitely another player who hit much better in the majors 
than the minors (not that he hit badly in the minors), and every 
indication points to Fenway Park as the cause of that particular unusual
transformation.

---
Glenn Waugaman
Digital Equipment Corporation
Littleton, MA
g_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com
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From: sullis@vccnw13.its.rpi.edu (Sean C. Sullivan)
Subject: NL:  Cy Young contenders and pretenders
Organization: Rotisserie Polytechnic Institute (Troy, NY, USA)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:55:03 GMT


1992 stats
----------
Contenders:
PITCHERS        W  L   ERA   G GS CG GF SH SV   INN   H   R  ER HR  BB  SO
DRABEK,D       15 11  2.77  34 34 10  0  4  0 256.2 218  84  79 17  54 177
GLAVINE,T      20  8  2.76  33 33  7  0  5  0 225.0 197  81  69  6  70 129
JONES,D        11  8  1.85  80  0  0 70  0 36 111.2  96  29  23  5  17  93
MADDUX,G       20 11  2.18  35 35  9  0  4  0 268.0 201  68  65  7  70 199
MARTINEZ,DE    16 11  2.47  32 32  6  0  0  0 226.1 172  75  62 12  60 147
RIJO,J         15 10  2.56  33 33  2  0  0  0 211.0 185  67  60 15  44 171
SCHILLING,C    14 11  2.35  42 26 10 10  4  2 226.1 165  67  59 11  59 147
SMITH,LEE       4  9  3.12  70  0  0 55  0 43  75.0  62  28  26  4  26  60
SMOLTZ,J       15 12  2.85  35 35  9  0  3  0 246.2 206  90  78 17  80 215
TEWKSBURY,B    16  5  2.16  33 32  5  1  0  0 233.0 217  63  56 15  20  91


Pretenders:
PITCHERS        W  L   ERA   G GS CG GF SH SV   INN   H   R  ER HR  BB  SO
DAVIS,MA        1  0  7.02  14  0  0  7  0  0  16.2  22  13  13  3  13  15
SLOCUMB,H       0  3  6.50  30  0  0 11  0  1  36.0  52  27  26  3  21  27
BROWNING,T      6  5  5.07  16 16  0  0  0  0  87.0 108  49  49  6  28  33
BOWEN,R         0  7 10.96  11  9  0  2  0  0  33.2  48  43  41  8  30  22
CREWS,T         0  3  5.19  49  2  0 13  0  0  78.0  95  46  45  6  20  43
KRUEGER,B       0  2  6.75   9  2  0  3  0  0  17.1  23  13  13  0   7  13
LANDRUM,B       1  1  7.20  18  0  0  6  0  0  20.0  27  16  16  3   9   7
JONES,B         7  6  5.68  61  0  0 17  0  1  69.2  85  46  44  3  35  30
ASHBY,A         1  3  7.54  10  8  0  0  0  0  37.0  42  31  31  6  21  24
AGOSTO,J        2  4  6.25  22  0  0 10  0  0  31.2  39  24  22  2   9  13

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: John Valentin
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:46:01 GMT
Organization: ? 

In <1992Nov8.054401.12636@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:

>In article <1di5oeINNeot@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST402747@brownvm.brown.edu (blomberg cepeda) writes:
>>
>>It is very unfair to do any MLE for New Britain without *serious* park
>>adjustments. Beehive Field is about the size of Alaska (okay, okay,
>>without the panhandle) and averages just plummet there.

>This I understand.  The numbers were still dreadful, however.  I don't
>know whether to take that as a serious negative or not.  Given his
>success the past two years in Pawtucket, I don't take it too
>seriously.  He is definitely not a .270 hitter in the majors, however.
>And with a .240 BA, his OBP and SLG drop from star-level to
>above-average.

Valentin's MLE's - all properly park adjusted - for the past three years,
and his STATS projection for next year:

	AVG	OBP	SLG
1990	.215	.261	.315
1991	.231	.319	.356
1992	.234	.310	.353
1993 P	.239	.313	.358

The minor league MLEs cover about 1000 plate appearances.  I'm inclined
to believe that his .276/.351/.427 was just a result of the small sample
size (200 PAs).  Yes, New Britain is a terrible hitters' park, but even after
you adjust for that Valentin doesn't look particularly special.  And remember,
all these numbers are adjusted not to a neutral major league park, but to
Fenway, a great hitters' park.

Greg 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (Dave Bonar)
Subject: More Favorite Players
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-6916]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
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Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: News and Views from LSU
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:20:46 GMT


	I've already mentioned my favorite players from far in my youth
(around 1970 or so).  More recently; ie when I get interested in baseball
again, but still at least somewhat in my youth (college) I had a completely
different set of favorite players.  I was just getting back into baseball
when I ended up in an American League Strat-O-Matic league.  I didn't know
all that many of the players as individuals but the game was fun as a game
and as a way to get back into baseball.  But drafting my team left me with
a wierd list of favorite players. :>

	Favorite Players from the mid 80's
Molitor
Harrah
Bochte
Franco
(my starting infield with the '85 cards.  don't ask about the outfield)

Dave
__________
Dave Bonar
eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: The value of speed (was Re: bonds in atlanta in 1993)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:39:35 GMT

In article <Bx9Gzo.EKB@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> summers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (erick m. summers) writes:

>Lineup 1:			Lineup 2:	
>	Nixon/Sanders  CF		Gant       LF
>	Blauser        2B  		Blauser    2B
>	Pendleton      3B		Pendleton  3B
>	Bonds          RF 		Bonds      CF
>	Justice        1B      		Justice    RF
>	Gant           LF 		Bream      1B
>	Olson          C		Olson      C
>	Belliard       SS		Belliard   SS
>	PITCHER        P		PITCHER    P
[...]
>
>It's obvious that those who returned a vote (including Braves fans who
>like Bream) prefer lineup #1.

Well, this still can't be used by you as evidence that Nixon is preferable to
Bream, since you included Sanders in there.  I mean, *I* would play Sanders
over Bream, but I would not play Nixon over Bream.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till)
Subject: Re: Jays' player changes and 1993
Organization: People With Fastballs 30+ MPH Slower Than Huckabay's, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:33:58 GMT

In article <18926@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu
(Gary Inspector There's A Man Behind Me Huckabay) writes:
>Then Pat Gillick is either a fool, or hates Dave Kirsch.  I know that
>Dave would just LOVE to see Joe Carter in a Jays uniform for four
>years at $5 Million a year.  Isn't that right, Dave?  Dave Till has
>mentioned to me in email that he think Joe Carter is the Key to Jays
>dynasty.  Or is that Die-Nastily?

Aha!  I have been slandered (or is that "libelled")?  How *dare* you
claim that I over-value Carter?  Sirrah, I take offense.  I challenge you
to a duel.  Crullers at dawn!  (I won't even mention the messages you
sent me which heap praise on that jewel of third basemen, Carney
"Roots" Lansford.)

>What game is that?  Lee was a plus this year, but not by THAT much,
>and he was (wait for it) *27* years old.  And posted a .345 OBP.  Look
>for .320 next year.  Acceptable for two more years, at most.

I think the big question here is whether his OBP gain is a fluke, or
a real improvement in performance.  Larry Hisle, this year's hitting coach,
have worked wonders with several Jays:  Lee and Borders, especially, have
become far more selective at the plate.

Lee's biggest liabilities right now are:  (a) he has no power, and (b) he
is not durable.  He is a small man, and runs out of gas every September.
However, he is, at this very moment, exactly as valuable as Tony Fernandez.
(Sorry about that, Mets fans.)

>There's plenty of lefties, but most of them aren't as good, or as
>reliable, as Key.  I don't know that I'd resign him, though.  He
>reminds me of Bob Welch '90 - A great guy to have on the club for a
>small price and a short time, but market forces dictate that those two
>things just aren't possible.

I think the Jays have to re-sign Key because there just aren't that many
good pitchers out there.  And, apart from Pat Hentgen and possibly Al "Ol'
Aches and Pains" Leiter, the Jays just don't have any good starting pitching
prospects in their system at the moment, as far as I know.  (Wells isn't
the answer:  his arm has gone dead.  His K/IP ratio is worse than Key's.)

I see the Jays' free-agent priorities as, in this order:  Key, Winfield,
Lee and Carter.  As I've said before, I think they'll make a serious effort
to sign Cone, but just won't be able to afford him; someone else will
give him at least $30 million over 5 years.

--Dave "one of the many Daves in the crowd" Till
  e-mail path:  dave@silver.sni.ca or dave@snitor.uucp
From: jeff@maggot.gg.caltech.edu (Jeff Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Reds/Yankees Trade
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:29:05 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: maggot.gg.caltech.edu

In <1992Nov5.183319.18286@novell.com> larrow@novell.com (Les Arrow) writes:

>Personally, I think this was a good move for both teams.


>Yankee stadium should help O'Neill's power. Look what the short right
>porch did for Matt Nokes. Paul's a patient hitter who should draw a good
>sum of walks. He's got pretty good mobility and is a fair fielder. Stick
>him in the middle of the lineup and I would forecast .250/.340 20 HRs 90 RBIs.

>On the other hand, the Reds get Roberto Kelly. Probably the most overrated
>rotisserie player I have ever seen. What does this guy really do for you?
>He plays a good center field with good speed. Can steal about 30-40 bases
>a year. Doesn't walk much, so certainly isn't a good leadoff man. Fact is
>he wants to bat in the middle of the lineup which I don't think is a good
>idea. My forecast for Kelly is .280/.340 15 HRs 75 RBI 30 SBs.

Isn't Riverfront a much better hitter's park in general, and for home runs
in particular?  If so, then O'Neill's power is likely to decline, even given
the short right field line.   His average will certainly decline.  Kelly's 
stats, on the other hand, should improve by moving to a better hitter's park.

Additionally, don't the Yankees see an abundance of lefty pitching to avoid
the problem of that short porch?  If so, O'Neill will only be able to play
60% of the games, assuming that he is not injured again, to which he seems 
to be prone.

All in all, while Kelly is only an All-Star because he's on the Yanks, why
would anyone trade players with roughly equivalent batting skills while 
replacing a decent center fielder with a right fielder two years older?

Unless the Yanks have something up their sleeve, this had to be foolish, and
I like O'Neill as a hitter a lot.  Most likely, however, the Yanks were just
talked out of their shorts again.  How could it be a planned trade?  It doesn't
address any of their weaknesses (pitching, especially left-handed pitching) and
just dilutes their talent base a little.  My prediction is that this trade will
be considered a fiasco in about five years.
				--Jeff

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Subject: Re: It's So Simple!!!
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:55:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.181709.15579@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>  
kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Kaufman) writes:

> There's such an elegant solution to the San Francisco/Tampa Bay
> struggle, I'm surprised nobody's come up with it:  :-) :-) :-)
> 
> 1)  The Giants stay in San Francisco.
> 2)  The Cubs move to St. Petersburg.
> 
> Everybody's happy.  Look what this accomplishes:
> 
>      1) San Francisco has a baseball team.
>      2) Tampa Bay has a baseball team.
>      3) Chicago has a baseball team.

Nah...move the *White Sox* to Florida (like what almost happened anyway)!!

OK, no ChiSox fans' flames are necessary...this was just the initial  
reaction of a North Sider to the post. What ever would we all do without  
the cross-town rivalry?! :-)

>      4) The Tribune Company now has some justification for keeping their
>         club in the NL East.
>      etc.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: yankees@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Kenneth M Gelfand)
Subject: Re: Yankees pitching staff
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Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:47:00 GMT

In article <BxD3Cv.M7y@unix.amherst.edu>, ddsokol@unix.amherst.edu (D. DANIEL SOKOL) writes...
>Can somebody tell me who what the rumors are for the Yankee pitching staff of
>next year.  I just read in the NY Times that the Yanks traded yet another
>pitcher away.  Aside from Melido Perez who is amazing and should have won at 
>leat 18 games, and Steve Farr, are there any good pitchers still left on
>the team?  Will Cone, Drabeck, Maddux or Swindell become Yankees?
>What about Barry Bonds?  It seems to me that there is space for him in left
>field.	
>	Danny Sokol-Amherst College
>	DDSOKOL@Amherst.edu


 I would expect the Yankee pitching staff next year to look something like 
this:

	1. Cone (keep your fingers crossed)
        2. Melido
	3. Militello
	4 & 5. One would expect a battle for these two spots between a bunch
	of young guys, Sanderson and Kamieniecki.  Two of the younger guys
	to look for  are Bob Wickman and Sterling Hitchcock.


	In the pen, Farr, Monteleone and Habyan will probably still be out 
	there, and Russ Springer may make it since there are no lefties of
	distinction out there any more. (No one is happier to see Greg
	Cadaret leave town......who would think throwing a strike could be so
	difficult?)

	Also, if things go sour on the season, don't be surprised if you see
	Brien Taylor in pinstripes in August.



							Kenny G


Mrs Rockefeller: My Yogi, you look rather cool today.
           Yogi: Thanks, ma'am, you don't look so hot yourself.
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Expansion Draft Coin-Toss
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:17:21 GMT
Organization: ?

In <1570.2afa3a20@atlas.nafb.trw.com> mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com writes:

>   Speaking of the draft....
>   Did I miss the R.S.B-Great-Mock-Draft-of-1992 ?

No, you didn't.  Evidently, the Miami Miracle, the team which has sued to
stop the expansion draft because the Marlins haven't yet paid their
territory fees yet, must have also sued Dave Kirsch, who was supposedly
supposed to handle everything months ago,  in order to stop our
mock expansion draft here.  At least that's the only reasonable explanation
I can think of for why it hasn't happened yet!



Greg 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: janet@uci0.mitre.org
Subject: In Search of: Tape of 1990 All Star Game
Organization: MITRE Corp., Bedford, MA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:51:37 GMT

I am looking for someone who happens to have the 1990 All Star Game (the one in Chicago) on tape or might know where I can find it.  

Please Email if you can help.

Thanks!


Janet