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From: smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Stuart M Lichtenthal)
Subject: ST-238R 30M disk & controller forsale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:58:27 GMT

I have a 30M RLL ST-238R hard disk and controller for sale with
the cables.  The controller card is WD1003V-SR2 and can control
two floppies and one HD.  PRICE: $75 which includes COD and shipping
costs.

Stuart Lichtenthal smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: koichi@unixg.ubc.ca (Koichi J Kishimoto)
Subject: New 586 making older machines obsolete?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:01:47 GMT

RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler) writes:
>chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY) writes:
>>Why not just pick up a broken PLUS/512 system with ROMS that are ok.  

>Because those 128k roms (old version of the operating system) and wont run 
>anything newer than about system 3.

>The 256k roms in Mac+s will run up to system 6, for system 7 you have to 
>have a Mac II or an upgraded (new motherboard) of the older Macs

Not true. I have a Mac+ running System 7. The only requirement is the
installation of at least 2Mb of memory. 

However, for virtual memory, you need a 68030 based Mac.

John Kishimoto
koichi@unixg.ubc.ca
From: peterj@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Peter Westley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape backup or CD_ROM ?
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:11:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Australasian Response Centre (Melbourne)
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sasha@ra.cs.umb.edu (Alexander Chislenko) writes:
: 
:    Actually, I want to buy both.
:    And I have only one drive bay to use.
:    Will I have to remove one of floppy drives, or have to get
:    one of these external, of there are some better options?
: 
I have the same problem - I have the CD-ROM sticking out the back at the moment
but I have decided to get a full tower case.  This will give me space for what I
have now as well as two for future expansion.  I think they are quite 
expensive but I figure it will be worth it to reclaim some of my bench space!
I have currently, 1full height 760Mbyte Maxtor, 1 halfheight 5.25" FDD,
1 3.5" FDD in it's own little possie and the CD-ROM.  This is in a desktop unit
with three half height slots and one 3.5" hole.  I think you can get full tower with 6 half height slots.

regards,

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From: russ@pta.pyramid.com.au (Russell Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Hard disk interfaces - what are the differences?
Date: 22 Jul 92 08:06:47 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney

Can anyone tell me whether any of the common interfaces (ESDI, IDE, ST506?)
can use the same driver?  I know that SCSI is a world of it's own,
which is ok - I dont use it.  I am about to take delivery of a 486
with an IDE drive and I would like to set up a Unix partition.  I have
two versions of Unix - Microport for a 286 which uses the original
(ST506) interface, and SVR4 which supports ESDI and SCSI.  (The
machine that came with the SVR4 licence is sitting on the bosses desk
runnin' Winders.)  Will any of these work with IDE?

Over...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: raj@raster.Kodak.COM (Rick Janzso CES)
Subject: Oak Technology Inc. info needed
Organization: Printer Products Division Eastman Kodak
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 22:07:30 GMT



	I am using a video board that uses the Oak Technology chipset, and
	I am having problems with the VESA driver that has come with it.

	I would greatly appreciate any information or phone number on
	how to contact Oak Technology, to get new drivers, if they
	exist.

	Please reply to:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Janzso.                Internet : raj@raster.kodak.com
Eastman Kodak Company.          Uucp : uunet!sisd!raj
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Are Maxtor and Seagate HD Good Brands?
From: Spartacus at Cuny <M05BC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 30 Jul 1992 18:27:04 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

    Hello again,

          After receiving numerous replies to my original post two days
    ago, the majority consensus agreed the Maxtor drive was the better
    deal of the two drives.  I did receive some supportive replies for the
    Seagates, however given it's past history, Lenny (My college buddy)
    decided to play it safe and go with the Maxtor 130M IDE drive.
    Its speeder than the Seagate (15ms vs 17ms) and it seems to be a
    favorite among those who Emailed me with their experiences with both
    drives.  I would like to thank the following people with helping us
    make a better, more informed decision:

    David Willmore, John M. Kroehle, Rithea Hong, Philip M.Poe, H.C.Polly
    Bob Wilson, Richard M. Macheske, and Steven A. Bohman.

------------------------------+      All The Best,
Reply To:                     |
                              |      Edward Galarza,
     M05BC@CunyVM.Cuny.Edu    |      Brooklyn College Of The
     M05BC@CunyVM.BitNet      |      City University Of New York
------------------------------+      "Que viva el OS/2!"
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: other Sysgen Tape Drive users? (reccs. sought)
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:25:14 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

I've got a Sysgen SmartImage 60 tape drive, and Sysgen
insists that the only way to use the newest version of the
driver software (which is free) is to purchase their $350
(For you, my friend, on special for only $250) new
controller card.

The new driver is supposed to work better with DOS 5 and
allow more flexibility in dealing with errors.

Questions:
	Does anyone else in the civilized world use a 
	Sysgen tape drive

	Does anyone have a reccommendation for a fast
	(4MB/min or better) external tape drive to replace
	the Sysgen? $250 for a controller card for an old
	unit seems steep...

                 *** PLEASE RESPOND BY E-MAIL ***

        I'll summarize the hordes of responses to the net. :)

----
Mark Bergman
718-855-9148

bergman@panix.com
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From: trekkie@netlink.cts.com (Bryce Newall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: HELP! Windows/DOS keyboard problem...
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:45:11 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

I have Windows 3.1 running on a 386DX-25.  Sometimes, I like to run 
more than one DOS program at a time (for example, have Telemate 
dialing in the background while I read messages offline in the 
foreground with XRS).  My problem is this:  Half of the keystrokes 
that I type into XRS in the foreground bypass XRS and instead, end 
up being processed by Telemate.  I especially hate it when the 
keystroke is ESC, SPACE, or ENTER, because those keys disrupt the 
dialing sequence.  I figure this has something to do with the way 
Windows handles keyboard input to DOS programs.  Lowering 
Telemate's background priority has helped some, but the problem did 
not disappear.  Does anyone out there know of a way to force 
Windows to not send any keystrokes to Telemate (or any background 
DOS program, for that matter) when it's not in the foreground?  Any 
help will be appreciated!
 
                                                -- Trekkie

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From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Cyrix Math Coprocessors
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:06:34 GMT
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

In a message dated Wed 29 Jul 92  1:05, Dave@bradley.bradley.edu (david Ves
wrote:
>
>>    83D87-33  $ 85
>>    83D87-25  $ 85
>
>Assuming these prices are still valid, is there any reason to purchase
>the 83D87-25 over the -33?

 DV> I would assume that one would have to buy the coprocessor that
 DV> matches the
 DV> speed of his CPU, no?

Actually the answer is no.  Just like buying RAM, you can always buy a chip
rated faster than it will actually be used.  The logic of both chips are
the same, but the 33MHz rated chip is simply capable of running at higher
clock speeds.  (Notice that I said logic, and not circuit - the faster chip
probally has a minor redesign to handle the higher clock rate).  So long as
the faster chip has the same pin configuration and price - buy it rather
than the slower chip - MAYBE you will be able to move the chip to a faster
machine later.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
From: ejdeal@terri.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 4M SIMMS prices
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:50:08 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmchs!auschs!terri.austin.ibm.com!ejdeal
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division


ACR Computers in Austin has 4Mx9 SIMMS for $118. 
(Just checked during lunch)...

Eric Deal
(I am not affiliated with ACR, but thought someone might
be interested).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: gsbg9079@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Scott Braley)
Subject: Re: P5 Delayed 3 months
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 13:54:43 GMT

kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes:


>Cyrix has plans of releasing their own version of the P5. 

oh yeah, I can see it now.  1998: Cyrix announces it's version of the P5.
Intel cuts prices on its low end line of 586's to stifle competition.
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From: kevin@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway sends 14.4 modem after I cancel!
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:42:00 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Waffle BBS, Clive IA USA, +1 515 226 2156

jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch) writes:

> In article <1992Jul20.175950.2879@wam.umd.edu> jdowdal@wam.umd.edu (John Dowd
> |>Gateway really is shipping their Telepath modem ... I got one after
> |>I canceled (and received a refund for) the order about a month ago 
> |>(June 18).
> |>
> |>They said they would send FedEx to pick it up and pay the shipping,
> |>but somehow, I don't believe it.  I won't be buying anything else
> |>from them again...
> |>
> |>John
> |>
> 
> 	Hmmmm... I'm not following this logic at all.  It sounds like
> 	I will be ordering and soonafter cancelling everything I 
> 	order from Gateway! :)

Sometimes you don't have to cancel. I ordered a 120meg hard drive
and a telepath. Gateway delivered two 120meg drives, and I cancelled
the telepath order.


--
Kevin Houle     kevin@iowegia.uucp
From: Tim_-_Otholt@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Computer won't boot, gives me 9 beeps on the speaker
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:51:51 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <15HNNB1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> <Br54JI.CFw@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

I used to work for a major BIOS company.  I am posting this info to help those
who don't understandy why a BIOS beeps that way.

BIOS vendors try to develop product that can't easily be pirated.  With all th
chipsets on the market, it would seem unlikely that one manufacturer's BIOS
could possibly work on another board.  Sometimes they do.

We put checksums in the BIOS firmware to prevent easy changes to the copyright
message, the manufacturer's signon, and so forth.  So if a motherboard company
pirates a BIOS from another manufacturer, they'll have to spend a while wiping
out all visible (and invisible) copyright and ID information to prevent the
"BIOS police" from IDing where it came from or if it's legit or not.

Too bad it's only software -- it's not a foolproof method, but it weeds out
the simple tinkerers.

Tim Otholt
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From: brad@Cayman.COM (Brad Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Need FAQ on PC SCSI cards (want to boot from SCSI)
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:06:31 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA


Someone recently posted a reasonable list of information on SCSI cards
for the PC, with lots of "booting" information, but naturally I lost
it. (time for "wais" on top of mh ;-)

I would like a SCSI card like which will:

	1. read the Microsoft Win32 CD-ROM under windows
	2. boot MS-DOS/Windows in the presense of an IDE drive
	3. work with NT

Optional, but nice features:

	4. Work with 386BSD (hey - one needs some variety!)
	5. Wash my car and apply perl patches

I understand SCSI at the controller level but I'm new to DOS at the
device driver level.  Any suggestions?  Could you mail me the
SCSI/Booting FAQ?

please resond via email. thanks

-brad
--
A metaphor is like a simile.

Brad Parker	Cayman Systems, Inc., Cambridge, Ma.	brad@cayman.com
From: mch@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Michael Hermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 486/50 chipsets
Summary: What chipset to avoid?
Keywords: chipsets, performance
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:49:04 GMT

I'm going to buy a 486/50 that should last the next 2 years 
(as my old 386sx lasted 3 years). At the moment I think
EISA would be overkill as I cannot afford a complete EISA-
peripheral-set (HD,,ETHERNET,VIDEO). Also LocalBus is somewhat
uncertain but let's see in 2 years ...

So I'm stuck with an ISA-Bus. What I definitely want to avoid
is a chip-set that has problems with driving the ISA-BUS. 
Particularly it should:

let me allow to slow down the bus or insert wait-states
provide A16-A23 reasonably fast (or decode CS16 reasonably late)

A second problem is the cache:
I've read reports about various '386-chipsets and they vary
widely in their behaviour once the cache misses. I'd like to
avoid a chipset that has problems with filling the cache
(like no burst or waiting until entire line is filled before
 the 486 can go on). 
It should do at least staggered refresh and support multiple
pages of DRAM (performing a page-cycle only if it detects a hit)

I don't need support for mixed-size DRAMS. I could live with
a relatively small cache (64k) if this means smaller line
size.

The real thing would have:

selectable associativity (1/2/4)
selectable line size (letting some CACHE-RAM be unused if necesssary)
0 wait states at CACHE-HIT (but at 50 MHz I doubt it)
4 or more pages of DRAM supported for direcct hit
static column or nibble-mode supported

If anyone has good/bad experiences with a particular 486/50-chipset,
please mail me.

Michael Hermann
mch@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bcp1@ra.msstate.edu (Cam Proctor)
Subject: passive hubs
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:22:50 GMT

I have always heard that passive hubs don't work.  and have taken it as 
given.  But today at work the question arose, WHY?  what is the reason
behind this that passive hubs DON'T work?


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From: rkorczyk@sadis05.sa.aflc.af.mil (RICK KORCZYK - SCDR (AI LAB))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Sound Cards
Summary: Which is the best?
Keywords: sound
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:29:31 GMT
Organization: NA

Hi,
        I have a 386/25 Pc Clone and am looking to install a sound
card and would like some advise.  Sound Blaster seems to be the
popular card but I have read [here on the net] that a lot of games
either hang-up when using this card or just don't work right.

Is this true?  If so what card is the best, also what all is involved
in installing one of these cards?  Do you need external speakers, etc.

Post E-mail or Net.

Thanks in advance.

Rick

"and they were singing bye bye Miss American pie"
From: dhw10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (David H. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: tseng 4000 video card and windows
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:25:18 GMT
Reply-To: dhw10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (David H. Wang)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I have a tseng 4000 video card with 1 meg memory and I am having trouble
with the windows 3.1 driver that came with the card.  Whenever
I choose one of the eta video modes, ie 800*600 (256 colors) or whatever.
After it is installed, I run windows again, and now whenever I
move the pointer or a window, I get all these extra dots on the screen.

Can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong.
My hardware configuration is a 486dx 33mhz, non-interlaced, multi-scan
monitor, 4 megs, etc...

Thanks

Dave
From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: info. on Maxtor 7120AT drive
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:22:08 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

The Maxtor numbers listed in my 7120A doc are:

  Tech support:  1 (800) 2-MAXTOR (M-F 6am to 6pm MST)
   Fax machine:  1 (303) 678-2618
    BBS number:  1 (303) 678-2222

Also, the part number for the doc is #1223/P1.

George

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: P5 Delayed 3 months
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:04:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.150535.11014@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> frigo@psl.wisc.edu writes:
>I read in today's NY Times that Intel is delaying the introduction of its
>P-5 chip until early 1993, instead of this fall.
>Intel claims that the P5 will be more thoroughly debugged than the 486 was
>at its introduction and will be available in large quantity at its intro-
>duction, avoiding the "Osborne effect."

The 486 had bugs, and there was no "Osborne effect" there.  
What's really happening is that, since AMD was forced to delay their
introduction of a 486 'work-alike', Intel has more time to get the most
money out of 486 production.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: fredf@microsoft.com (Fred Freeland)
Subject: Re: HARDDRIVE CONTROLLER, SERIAL&PARALLEL PORT on a card
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:11:22 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <tooraj.712241829@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au> tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tooraj Enayati) writes:
>christos@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>
>
>>	I was wondering whether anybody has heard of cards that have a serial
>>port, a parallel port and a hard drive controller. 

STB Systems, Inc. of Richardson, TX makes a PowerGraph Combo board that
contains:

	Super-VGA compatible graphics card with up to 1 Meg RAM
	IDE Hard disk controller for up to 2 hard disks
	Floppy disk controller for up to 2 floppy disks
	2 RS-232 serial ports
	1 parallel port
	1 bus mouse port (bus mouse included)

I believe the list price is somewhere around $490, but I'm sure it can be
had for much less.  I am currently using one in my system at home and in
addition to having no complaints about the performance, I really like
have the extra room in my machine for other cards, like SoundBlaster's,,
TV, etc.

STB Systems, Inc. can be reached as follows:

	STB Systems, Inc.
	1651 N. Glenville Suite 210
	Richardson, TX 75081

Their telephone number is (214) 234-8750.

Hope this helps you in your quest.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: j_manning@csc32.enet.dec.com (John Manning)
Subject: Re: Diamond Speedstar 24 info wanted!!!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:13:48 GMT


In article <1992Jul30.215354.27197@zeos.com>, kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes...
>In article <64490@hydra.gatech.EDU> dsrekrg@prism.gatech.EDU (Rob Gibson) writes:
>>Anyone care to comment on the breadth of software support that 
>>will develop for the Speedstar 24 (Tseng 4000 based)
>>and the Speedstar 24X (Western Digital 9031 based)?  The 24X seems like 
>>product with a short lifespan based on the anticipated Fall release of
>>a 24-bit S3 board.
>>-- 



I guess I will know for sure tomorrow, but I am supposed to be receiving one
of the Speedstar 24X boards tomorrow(7-31).  I ordered it Fed-EX overnight from
USA-FLEX today.  The guy claimed that it was the 24X and not just the 24.  We
shall see....



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From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: CO Pro Speedup WIndows?
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:40:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

We had a discussion here about How a co processor affects windows performance.
It seem it got off the original intended direction never answering the 
questions.  So does A co processor speedup windows?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: stronc@aix.rpi.edu (Christopher Keith Strong)
Subject: info about DEE ONE SYSTEMS and HI TECH USA wanted
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:38:16 GMT


I'm looking to get a new system, and I'm considering ordering from many 
different vendors.  I was wondering if anyone has had good/bad experieces
buying from Dee One Systems (800 831 8808) or Hi Tech USA (800 831 2888).  
I know that they're both very deep discount and that you're gonna have 
to pay for every last thing you get but their prices are very very good.

Any information (preferably true...) is appreciated.  

thanks

stronc@rpi.edu
<disclaimer goes here>

btw--if you're interested, DeeOne has a 486sx20 1mb ram 120mbhd 3.5"drive
     .28 svga mon for $982 (Aug Comp Shopper)
and for equal time...Hi tech has a 486sx20 4mb ram 120mb hd 3.5"&5.25"
     16 bit .28 svga mon for $1258