From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English Soccer
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:07:03 GMT
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands

In article <1992Nov5.134636.11412@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>
>Hello!
>
>We think English soccer #%$%#@$%s.
>Explanations: English teams don't know anything about tactics.
>But, the English posters on this group always pretend as if their soccer
>is world-class! So much fuss about nothing...
>
>We mean, Blackburn Rovers on top of the league... A promovendus...

Nevertheless a reply on this low level insane posting. I don't know
so much of English football but what I know is that Blackburn Rovers,
spent an awfull lot of money on their team. Compare this to the dutch 
situation where, say Cambuur, is able to buy a number of very good players 
from other teams. I think the coach of BR is Kenny Dalglish who has proven
to be a very good coach. A surprise that BR is on top? No. 

>And then the way they are on top: far too many draws and losses for a real 
>top team. 

The English situation in incomparable to the dutch situation. The number of
matches played by English teams is far more greater than matches played by
Dutch teams.  Furthermore, in England more money is going on in the 
league and there are more teams able to spend money on players.

> Here in Holland, for example, a team will never be first after
>that many rounds with that many lost points! PSV here is first in the
>league, but they're still chased by Ajax, Feyenoord and FC Twente, even 
>while they've only lost 2 points in 10 matches now!

PSV is by far the biggest spender in Holland. Ajax and Feijenoord follow
PSV by a distance. Surprise that these teams are always on top. 
The resistance of other teams is too weak to get the big teams even when
they have a bad day. Ok, last sunday Ajax was caught by Den Bosch but mostly
the big teams are not trapped when they play lousy. FC Twente is a different 
story. Indeed they play well this year but the match against Feijenoord was
lost by 0-5 and the match against PSV was lost by 1-2.

>
>You see it again in the European Cup-tournaments: Only Glasgow Rangers
>(allright, it's Scottish) plays further, and we think it's only because
>they've played Leeds Utd. If they'd played against a continental team
>(well, not Austrian, Swiss, Norwegian, or something like that) they'd
>been kicked out, we're sure!

No comment necessary here.

>
>Conclusion: There are no real top-teams in England! It's a 'unity-
>sausage', as we use to say in Dutch. You sure feel what that means!
>
>As an end of this posting two things:
>
>- We'd like our theory proven (e.g. PSV gets into the same poule as
>  Rangers),

I hope PSV will be in the same poule of  the Rangers. I already know
which team I support.

>- We'd like to give you all a tip: DREAM ON!!!
>
>
>PS: We do like your ambiance!
>
>Greetings,
>
>Sidney vd Poll     (Ajax-fan, vdpoll@fwi.uva.nl)

Shame on you!

>Mischa Bronstring  (PSV-fan, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl)

I can understand some of reasons that you like the English teams to be
kicked out. Some postings on the net placed by English fans show an 
enormous arrogance. A pity, but your posting is of the same level.

Louis Kossen
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