HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jacobson@arcturus.tmc.edu (douglas jacobson GR)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: Playmaker 2.0 bug
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:00:51 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

In article <45877@shamash.cdc.com> paul@svl.cdc.com (Paul Kohlmiller) writes:
>fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:
>
>>I think that reflects a rule change in NFL football implemented
>>to shorten games.  I believe the rule now is the clock runs until
>>the last two minutes of each half.  
>This is correct. Interesting that PMFB picked up on this rule change
>but missed some other timing things in 1.0. For example, 1.0 would not
>let you kick the PAT if you scored with 0 seconds left in a half.

This *cannot* be right!!!!! Let me tell you why...

1) I certainly would have heard about such a drastic rule change. I
read articles about football everyday in the newspaper.

2) The games would go from 3 hours long to under 2.

3) All play calling strategy is gone!  No more `ball control' offense
to run minutes off the clock (you might as well pass).

4) It would be a completely idiotic rule.

I am 99.999999% sure of this.  If someone has proof to the contrary,
let's see it.

Later,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:27:22 -0400 
From: Jager McConnell <jmbx+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: KQ VI? SQ V? *GRIN*

    Any body know when King's Quest VI or Space Quest V is coming out?
What are the plots going to be? Can anyone help?
From: v109lpch@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Troy Waldmiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Are Playmaker Mac and IBM files compatible?
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I just got Playmaker Football the other day for my mac and My friend who has
an IBM is considering getting it for himself.  I was wondering If the file
formats for the teams and playbooks are compatible so we can make our own 
teams and play them against each other.  

  Is there a site on the net that has some teams that people have made so I
can download some more?

  Thanks for any help


  Troy Waldmiller
  v109lpch@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
From: cfranz@iiic.ethz.ch (Christian Steffen Ove Franz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: ANOTHER SH3.0 SUGGESTION
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:55:16 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH)

In article <712407488.F00001@blkcat.UUCP> Babak.Gohari@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Babak Gohari) writes:
>One other HUGE suggestion I have for SH3.0, which I'm surprised no one has yet
>mentioned (maybe because I had only played 1.x, not 2.0, and it may have
>changed) : why do you have to kill off the population of enemy planets?  I
>mean, doesn't it make sense to take over an enemy colony and use it's
>resources and money, rather than start over?  I mean, honestly, I would much
>rather keep millions of colonist from getting evacuated and keep them working
>for me.

I guess the idea is that all players are different races. This is enforced
by the fact that a planet with 1.0 G for player A yields 3.5 for player B etc.
So the simple explanation would be:
The two races are incompatible that it is much more economic to kill everyone
than to provide for them when terraforming (since it is a game, we can ignore
the ethical problems with this). 

Cheers,
Christian

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
From: patlin_s@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Jewel Box! Wow!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:55:44 GMT

In article <WYATTW.92Jul27154016@loowit.wr.tek.com>, wyattw@loowit.wr.tek.com (Wyatt Webb;6291592;92-835) writes:

In response to all the commotion, I downloaded Jewel Box from Sumex.

Anyone who hasn't looked at this is missing out!  And the soundtrack
is really nice!

Scott Patlin
From: neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR FTP-SITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:52:28 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne) feverishly scribbles:

>sumex-aim.stanford.edu and mac.archive.umich.edu are the best I've seen.  Of 
>Course, wuarchive.wustl.edu mirrors all major sites, and is easier to
>get onto, so try nosing around in there first.

 Does anyone out there have the IP numbers for these sites? TIA!

 - Neil K. (n_k_guy@sfu.ca)
From: Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: Hellcats - Sound effects stop during play
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:29:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Jul23.152934.13112
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. and Mech. Eng.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2

Richard Hintz writes:
>Ok, I turned off all my non-Apple sound inits and, in most cases, the
sound  
>effects in Hellcats work fine.  Sometimes, however, I'm flying along in
one  
>of the scenarios and the sound just stops and doesn't get going again
without  
>quitting the program or, sometimes, rebooting the machine.  Any thoughts
on  
>this? 

I have the same problem on my LC. I dont know why it happens--it seems
random and only occurs every 3rd mission or so. When I play I restart
with all extensions off, so theres no conflict there.

My solution is to escape from the game and then use the sound control
panel. This seems to be what everyone else is doing out there too.

Later, 

Rich
From: rson@rhi.hi.is (Reynir Hugason)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Uninvited
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:42:15 GMT

Oki Oki.. so I past the maze I got the gem and fed the demon... and then
what? I hvae the small vial of mercury and there is a silver bowl in a
closet in the mansion .. but what next? what do you do with an 8 foot
spider with rabies? and what about that fridged dude?

Hmm

lots of questions .. lets hope we get some answers ...
From: brianc@acuson.com (Brian Cox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: PMFB questions
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:19:49 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

tl1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas J. Lee) writes:


>I have a bunch of questions so here goes...

>Of all the defensive backs, who is the fastest (assuming they are given
>the same speed rating)?

>In the Inherent Abilities section in the manual, both the free safety
>and cornerbacks have "catching" skills, and "fast" speed.  Is there any
>difference between the two as far as abilities go?

I'm trying to remember on the breakaway plays, who usually drags the
sonofabitch from the opposing offense down.  I think it's usually the
free safety.  But this could be as much because he's the last one back
there as anything.

>What is the significance of being able to change defensive linemen into
>nose tackles and turning defensive backs into one of the other defensive
>backs?  More specifically, if you change your free safety to a strong
>safety, are his inherent abilities changed also?

Don't know the answer to this one.

>Is it possible to have a hot running back (*) and a hot receiver (+) at
>the same time?

Definitely.  Happens to me all the time.  Even at the end of lost game,
the other side is keeping a special eye on Art Monk and Earnest Byner...

>Is anyone else noticing the timing of their plays being messed up when
>converting their old plays to 2.0?  On one of my fleaflicker plays, I
>had the timing perfect with several laterals in the old version, and
>when I converted my plays to 2.0, the timing got all fucked up and now
>the players consistently fumble and drop the laterals, which I haven't
>had a chance to fix yet.  Any comments?

Yes.  The addendum to the user's guide.  (Release notes?) mention that
this will happen.  The benefit is that the QB leads his receivers better.
In my opinion, this is a good tradeoff.  I have been frustrated by 
having open receivers and the Quarterback unable to get the ball to them
properly.


>-Tom.
-- 

					   --Brian Cox--
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From: paul@svl.cdc.com (Paul Kohlmiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: Playmaker 2.0 bug
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:09:12 GMT

fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:

>I think that reflects a rule change in NFL football implemented
>to shorten games.  I believe the rule now is the clock runs until
>the last two minutes of each half.  
This is correct. Interesting that PMFB picked up on this rule change
but missed some other timing things in 1.0. For example, 1.0 would not
let you kick the PAT if you scored with 0 seconds left in a half.
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From: mcote@sw.stratus.com (Mike Cote)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: cyberblast
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:59:39 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Has anyone tried out Cyberblast yet?  It sounds like a new arcade style game.

mpac
From: rob_hawley@taligent.com (Rob Hawley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: SoftAT PC emulation
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:14:53 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac
Organization: Taligent Inc.

In article <1992Jul28.130255.2734@mcs.anl.gov>, stein@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov
writes:
> 
> In article <3110@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> hall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert J.
> Hall) writes:
> >Has anyone had the opportunity to try running IBM PC/AT games on a Mac using
a software product called SoftAT?
> 
> Sorry Bob, you will never be able to get even close to a reasonable
performance level with SoftAT. I use it quite a bit to run 'speed insensitive'
pc programs (such as circuit simulators and whatnot) but when attempting to play
some games
> --- <belch> --- NO WAY. 1st problem is speed, and 2nd problem is graphics -
> both are inadequate.
> 


What is the hardware you are using for your comparison? I have a Quadra 700 and
would think that SoftPC would be reasonabile on that base (I haven't tried it).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: georged@sequent.com (George Dolbier)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Survey
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:00:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.174623.22414@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sjked@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

Answer in two parts:
A: you can get better information about VR from the following newsgroups
sci.virtual-worlds
alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
alt.cyberpunk.movement
alt.cyberpunk.tech
alt.cyberpunk
alt.cyberspace
alt.cyb-sys

B: I have had tried vpl system. It was... interesting. Technology has to
go a LONG way before VR becomes viable. Hey, but your 15, shoot for doing
your masters thesus on VR. Hopefully VR will be a solid reality about then.

For info from alternate sources try contacting Autodesk Inc. -in SanFrancisco-
(yes, the makers of autocad). They have been working on a vr cad program for
the pc's for a couple of years now.
>Virtual Reality is far from being a reasonable system for
>playing computer games. However, it is becoming 
>increasingly easy for anyone to experience virtual reality.
>I'm only 15 years old, but I'd like to start a discussion
>of V.R. and perhaps eventually go into such a career. Please
>e-mail responses to this short survey, or feel free to 
>respond with comments about V.R.
>
>1. Have you ever tried V.R.?
>
>2. What did you think of it?
>
>3. How much would you pay for a complete V.R. home
>computer system (with the computer?)
>
>
>Currently, 2 such systems exist for the Macintosh. One
>is a complete V.R. studio and sells for $58,000!
>
>4. What do you hope to see in the future of V.R.?
>
>Send replies to:
>sjked@ritvax.isc.rit.edu 

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.wanted:6990 misc.forsale.computers:27967
From: jspear@frogstar.socal.com (Jon L. Spear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted,misc.forsale.computers,from.socal.com
Subject: Re: 4sale: Mac stuff - games, utils (DiskFit, Retrospect), Macpluslike,...
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 04:54:38 PST
Organization: Mostly Harmless
Reply-To: jspear@frogstar.socal.com (Jon L. Spear)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5


In article <Bs1wDv.Jz1@acsu.buffalo.edu> (comp.sys.mac.wanted,misc.forsale.computers), 
v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne) writes:
> >    Stratego, like the board game, B&W/color                    $14
> 
> Isn't stratego a shareware game?  I have a copy which I believe I downloaded
> from some FTP site.  If so, you have no business re-selling it.
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?

Unfortunately, many people saw what Jason wrote.  Some may have "listened".

Jason's posting was misguided and his allegations are false.

The Stratego game I'm offering is a commercial package published by
Accolade with some sort of arrangement with Milton Bradley, designed
by Ken McLeod and had a list price of $49.95.  It comes with 2 800K
disks and a code-wheel for copy protection.  Copyright 1990.

I bought it some time ago it and have as much right to sell it as any
other piece of personally owned property.  It is of much higher quality
than most shareware games; offered at a price lower than most shareware.

Please folks, if you have a question or comment like Jason's, try
private email first.  You'll conserve network bandwidth, and may
avoid making yourself look foolish in front of thousands of people.

-Jon

jspear@frogstar.socal.com "You can't be too rich, too thin, or have a .sig too
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: gnoer1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Geoffrey J. Noer)
Subject: WANTED: External HD, 200-400 MB
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:56:58 GMT

I'm looking for an external drive for my mac.  I can get a new Maxtor 200
MB external drive from APS for about $560 (according to MacUser ads in the
Aug. issue) so either I would expect a lower price for the same capacity or
more capacity at the same price (or more if appropriate).  I might be
interested in a drive in the 300-400 MB range if the price was right.  I
would rather buy a good quality used drive than a new one if I have the
choice.

Also, if anyone knows anything about the drive APS is selling, I'd be very
interested about it.

------------
Geoffrey J. Noer       gnoer1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Disclaimer: I don't speak for anyone but
myself.
From: wyattw@loowit.wr.tek.com (Wyatt Webb;6291592;92-835)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Re: 4sale: Mac stuff - games, utils (DiskFit, Retrospect), Macpluslike,...
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:37:07 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Instrument Controllers and Software
In-reply-to: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu's message of 27 Jul 92 15:03:00 GMT

There is a shareware version of Stratego, but there is also a commercial
version which does color (among other things).  He has every right to
sell the latter...

	-Wyatt


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From: paul@svl.cdc.com (Paul Kohlmiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Re: WANTED: LC video RAM
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:46:13 GMT

darweesh@acsu.buffalo.edu (michael j darweesh) writes:
>I need the appropriate vidoe RAM to upgrade an LC to 256 colors. I believe
>that with a 13" RGB monitor, that would be 512K. If you have some to sell,
>I'm interested...
$69 
from MacProducts USA
800-MAC-usa1
That's what I did and it works fine. A very easy upgrade after changing SIMMS
in a SE.
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From: jonesc@ogre.CS.ORST.EDU (Cory Alan Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Apple 8bit video card forsale
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:29:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept


  I have an Apple 8-bit video card for sale.  It was used in a Mac II... I  
don't need it anymore because I have a new video card and monitor.

  It only has the standard 256K, and additional 256K is needed to display  
256 colors at once.

  The card works perfectly.  I would like $150 (offers welcome).  

  - Cory Jones
    jonesc@ogre.CS.ORST.EDU
    503.740.4447  (work - message)
    503.754.2806  (home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,alt.forsale,ba.market.misc,ba.market.computers,su.market
From: tomcat@leland.Stanford.EDU (tom spearman)
Subject: ZOOM V.42/V.42bis MNP5 HAYES COMPATIBLE 2400 BAUD MODEM $120 OBO
Keywords: zoom modem V.42/V.42bis 2400 baud 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:03:45 GMT

Zoom modem for sale.  I will include Mac cables.  Fully hayes compatible,
8 light display, V.42/V.42bis MNP 5.  One year old.  $100 + shipping
obo.

Tom
tomcat@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 00:59:07 MDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Apple 160 MB internal drive for sale 
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (john r park)

I am thinking of purchasing a larger drive for my IIci for
A/UX 3.0 and am considering selling the internal 160 MB I
have now.  I would like to get $400 but am open to offers.

-- 
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parkj@bones.et.byu.edu     |  Brigham Young University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: rc9h@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Ronald  Crozier)
Subject: SCANNER FOR SALE
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:50:20 GMT


Must sell:

Microtek 300zs 24bit, 300dpi color scanner.
Original box, manuals and ColorStudio included.
works great   

Best offer

rc9h@Virginia.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: suddenly@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Smith)
Subject: Mac hardrive wanted
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:10:14 GMT

I am looking for a used macintosh external hard drive --

Somewhere in the 20 to 40 Meg range, for use with a Mac+.


Dave Smith 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: UC580591@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Evan T. Carpenter)
Subject: Do you want to upgrade?
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:50:41 GMT
X-Posted-From: mizzou1.missouri.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hey, with the deals that are out (as of Aug. 1) for all of us kids I
want a computer!!!
 
I want to get an LCII or above.  I do not mind an empty shell.  Actually
I am looking to max out what ever I get.  I feel it would be more
economical to buy a bare bones machine and add all of the necessity
myself.
 
Basically the situation I am in is I can buy a Macintosh:
 
LCII 4/40 12" AppleColor Monitor and Keyboard                     : $1,408
LCII 4/80 12" AppleColor Monitor, Extended Keyboard and 512K VRAM : $1,668
LCII 4/80 13" HighRes Monitor, Extended Keyboard and 512K VRAM    : $1,929
IIsi 3/40 13" HighRes Monitor, and Extended Keyboard              : $2,040
IIsi 5/80 13" HighRes Monitor, and Extended Keyboard              : $2,255
 
those are the choices given to me by my school's computer extension.
 
I do not necessarily want exactly what they have to offer, that is why I
am now in the market to find a 'DEAL' I will be happy with!!!
 
I would like to know what you have to offer...
 
Please send any information which my be helpful to me to:
***** *         *  *      *         *  _________________________________
*      *       *  * *     * *       * |UC580591@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU__^^
***     *     *  *   *    *   *     * |UC580591@MIZZOU1.BITNET__--^^
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: majnun@parrot.in-berlin.de (Albrecht Hofheinz)
Subject: Can somebody mail me mcvert 180?
Summary: Can somebody mail me mcvert 180?
Keywords: mcvert UNIX
Organization: Parrot Public BBS
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:33:08 GMT

Hi netters,
After the release of mcvert170, then 180, I tried to get hold of them by
sending mail to ricevm1, but unfortunately what arrived was incomplete.
Could someone kindly mail me a complete version of it?
Please respond to me first, and wait til I give you the o.k., so that my
mailbox does not get overloaded. I'll then ask one of you to actually
mail the file. I'd prefer if it could be uuendoded (instead of being in
the lpunch (?) format.

Thanx very much for your cooperation

Albrecht Hofheinz
majnun@parrot.in-berlin.de
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Apple CD SC wanted
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:04:31 PST
Organization: BBS


I would like to get a used external SCSI CD-ROM.  Anything faster under 600ms
is fine.  Please mail me your model and price.

Thanx.

frank m. lin
internet: fmlin@terapin.com
symmetrix...
From: simmons@duncan.utkcs2 (Paul T Simmons ( Doc ))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Imagewriter II & Sheet Feeder
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:02:46 GMT
Organization: My own private world :-)
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu
In-reply-to: simmons@duncan.utkcs2's message of 24 Jul 92 16:22:17

In article <SIMMONS.92Jul24162217@duncan.utkcs2> simmons@duncan.utkcs2 (Paul T Simmons ( Doc )) writes:
Path: utkcs2!utkcs2!simmons
   From: simmons@duncan.utkcs2 (Paul T Simmons ( Doc ))
   Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
   Date: 24 Jul 92 16:22:17
   Organization: My own private world :-)
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	   Apple Imagewriter II: in great condition, hardly used

	   Imagewriter II sheet feeder: also in great condtion

	   Free Bonus:  dust cover!!!

	   $210 + S&H-->Imagewriter II
	    $20-->Sheeter Feeder
           --^^-------should read $40.00 my err.

	   Questions & Offers to:  simmons@cs.utk.edu


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