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From: lhclin@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Louis Lin)
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:14:30 GMT

In article <stevew.711735009@helios> stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu) writes:
>yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes:
>
>>That was exactly the one that I was refering to. Fiction all the way, 
>>science it was not. Ail Hon doesn't even know what a Black Hole is, how
>>can you expect him to write any semi-coherent *science* fiction?
>
>  You are over honoring Ail Hon. His knowledge about science is not
>more then a F3 student. But on the other hand, I guess not everyone
>knows what a black hole is--like do we know the surface radiation of a
>black hole? what is the singular point? what is the augular momentant
>and things like these.  (Don't ask me, I don't even know what I am
>talking about, since I don't know about black hole)
>

Since science fiction are not science anyway, it will be asking to much
for a science fiction writing to know what a black hole is.  I guess
science fiction writers only needs to have a blurr idea of a theory in
science, and make (reasonable) speculation on it in order to write a novel.
In case of Ail Hon, I think his problem is more with repetitive story line
than unreasonable speculation.

PS. I do not know what exactly a black hole is.  But I guess that is okay,
    since neither do our top physicists.

>  steve
>--
>stevew@helios.unl.edu  |=| \ Fender / |=| ... smoke on the water, fire in
>                       |=|   \    /   |=| the sky...   Smoke on the water.
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>		      Deep purple, the best


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:9119 rec.arts.sf.movies:5914
From: poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:04:14 GMT
Reply-To: poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <1992Jul17.212344.4555@PA.dec.com> yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip) writes:

[Deleted]
>I saw about 20 minutes of one of these HK science fiction movie
>a couple of months ago (rental tape).   It was a recent movie,
>a cross between science fiction and kung fu moives starring LAU
>Tak-Wah among others.  

When I saw this movie, I didn't consider it as SF.  Don't ask me why.  I 
just don't think it is a SF.  I think it is something like City Hunter.  Do
we consider City Hunter to be SF?

>Obviously I didn't like it, I didn't know what was going on in the
>movie and I quit watching it.  My wife finished the movie, however.

I like it.  I agree that you cannot find a major thread to follow.  But at
least, the film makers put some imagination in it.  I think this is very
"precious" in HK movie. Well the model of this movie is magic tale type:
lack -> quest -> tests -> reward.

Have fun!!!

								Poon.
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From: mkcman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man)
Subject: Re: Help ! N Y Giants fan looking for "air" time in HK ! 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:36:13 GMT

In article <6130069@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
> >mkcman@napier.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man) /  4:32 pm  Jul 27, 1992 /
> >Hi,
> >
> >        I don't think they have any "LIVE" event for pro football in HK,
> >the only coverage is the super bowl final and that is all. Try the satellite TV,may be t hey have it. Don't worry if they don't have it. You will find many
> >other sports there. I know that they have baseball on satellite TV. But it 
> >is not major league, it is NCAA baseball, no good!!!
> >
> >Marcus Man
> >U  of  Waterloo
> >Canada
> 
> >----------
> 
> American football (sorry, but you know, in UK and HK, football means different
> sport) has never been a popular sport in HK. I don't think TV would have
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> any show of it, even super bowl, may be a few shoots. Have you seen the
> world cup or Eurpean cup in US national stations? Same things happen.
> 
> Yuk

I don't think you have watch TV for the past few years. Five years ago when I am
still in HK, the TVB Peral station had live coverage on superbowl final and many
of the American Companies have a half day off which let their employees to 
watch the final games. How long have you leave HK ????
In Hk, they have introduced the satellite TV which has many North American sports,
LIVE coverage with no charge.

Another problem, have you watch the World Cup in 90'. Here in  Toronto, the TSN 
has all the live coverage on every games of the World Cup. So can't say there is
no world cup in North America.

Marcus 
U of Waterloo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Grad School in HK
From: salina@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:15:55 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <1992Jul22.180357.21554@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umyu0030@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Danny Y. W. Yu) writes:
> 
> I am a potential graduate and would like to know the e-mail address of
> the Computer Science Dept. of various education institute in Hong Kong.
> 
> Can anybody show me a hint ?
> 
> -- 
> Danny YU                         Voice : (204)261-1647
>                               Internet : umyu0030@ccu.UManitoba.CA
> IRC    : #hk/Sato                        umyu0030@silver.cs.UManitoba.CA
> Bitnet : #YU0030@UOFMCC.BITNET            #yu0030@ccm.UManitoba.CA
   
    Maybe you can extract and download the item FAQ from this newsgroup.
There are a whole bunch of e-mail addresses of HK institutes.

-Sal-

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From: mkcman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man)
Subject: COBOL, SQL Re: Electronics/videogame stores in Hong Kong. (SUMMARY) 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:15:47 GMT

In article <84636@netnews.upenn.edu>, taoc@grad1.cis.upenn.edu (Chi-Chih Tao) writes:
> In article <1992Jul25.002241.41114@enlil.premenos.sf.ca.us> cho@enlil.premenos.sf.ca.us (Cho-Ming Tai) writes:
> >
> >	sold at Golden Plaza (in Kowloon) disappointing.
> >	They were all PC stuff.  It's hard even to find any high-end Macs,
> >	not mentioning Sun, Next, DEC stuff.  
> 
> 	That's also what I think.  To me, Hong Kongers are IBM-PC die-hards.
> 	Many of my friends are engineers from TI, and they joke "Who need Mac?"
> 
>         I think the most stupid of all is the excessive hype about Chinese 
>         System software and i386/i486.  They think Chinese software are very
>         very high-tech (ACK!) and i486 is the fastest son of a gun on earth.
> 
> 	(If you see people who used to judge a computer's powerfulness by
> 	 the clock rate, like 25MHz, 30MHz, etc., you can tell these people
> 	 - who are everywhere in HK - don't know shit about modern computer
> 	 architecture!)
> 
> 	May be they should look at what a SunSPARC, IBM RISC 6000 and a Silicon
> 	Graphics can do!

>------[deleted]
> 
> 	Well, HK people are very short-sighted.  Most of them do not care about
> 	the long-term benefits and only strive for short-term profits.  That's
> 	why there is no software firm in Hong Kong.  Why bother to make one?
> 	You can just go to Sham Shui Po and get a pirate copy of your favourite
> 	software at a cost so low that you think you're in heaven.  These
> 	software are great and cheap, so making one on your own is stupid.
> 
> 	And of course, let me remind you a golden rule of software engineering.
> 	If you are formally trained in CS and want to make big money, do not
> 	even think about opening a software company because software engineer
> 	do not make big money!  If your software is bad, no one will buy.  If
> 	your software is good, a few will buy it and then copy it all over 
> 	the places.  (The stupid and useless copyright laws in HK just
> 	encourage people doing that)
> 
> 	Thus, all remaining CS opportunities are just stupid and 
> 	straight-forward COBOL and SQL programming, which even a stupid 
                         ^^^^^     ^^^
> 	high-schooler may excel in 2 weeks.  So even you get an univ. degree,
> 	you don't deserve high pay in these jobs.
> 	
> 	Too bad, but that's the rule of games in HK.
> 

The reason why MAC is not popular is that the price is pretty high and the supply
of software is not enough. You know, HKers (including me) like to copy the software. If the black market of software is not enough, why we need to buy a MAC, we can just buy a PC instead. So the MAC is not popular, of course we know
MAC is a good stuff..

Morever, I can only agree one of the points of the stupid jobs you have mention.
COBOL is stupid, I agree, but SQL is not stupid, since it is powerful. So there
is no problem to write SQL program but it is stupid to write COBOL program.

Marcus
U of Waterloo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tatcho@next01epsl.wam.umd.edu (Tat Chi Ho)
Subject: Re: Last name
Keywords: Restatement
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:28:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.032937.18441@wam.umd.edu>  
tatcho@next15pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tat Chi Ho) writes:
> 
> We have read more than 10 articles talking about 
> the last name 1)Lam or  2)Lam=Lin=Lum.
> 
> It sounds like people with the same last name are going
> to post news here to identify themselves!
> 
> Such as,
> 1) Cheung=chen
> 2) Lo=Law ? 
> 3) Wong=Wang
> ....
> 
> Please don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting this.
> 
>
     
Oh, somebody wrote me:
If you don't want to read it, you can put the Subject into your kill file.
You are annoying me!
 
Well, I don't mean that!
I was just tried to predict the trend...
No offence to all the Mr./Ms. Lam.
No offence!


  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sonford@milton.u.washington.edu (Sonford Yuen)
Subject: About UW-Madison
Reply-To: sonford@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 08:10:00 GMT

There was someone who asked for info. about UW-Madison.
As I know, there're still quite a number of HK students 
who have email accounts in Madison in summer. So why don't
give some info. to those in need?
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: How many ways can you spell it?
Keywords: last name
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:44:11 GMT
Reply-To: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Organization: University of Melbourne

In article <1992Jul28.175824.9784@mprgate.mpr.ca>, vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul28.032937.18441@wam.umd.edu> tatcho@next15pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tat Chi Ho) writes:
|> >
|> >We have read more than 10 articles talking about 
|> >the last name 1)Lam or  2)Lam=Lin=Lum.
|> >
|> >It sounds like people with the same last name are going
|> >to post news here to identify themselves!
|> >
|> >Such as,
|> >1) Cheung=chen
|> >2) Lo=Law ? 
|> >3) Wong=Wang
|> >...
|> >
|> Is Cheung = Chen?
|> I thought Chan = Chen.
|> And there are others:
|> Wong = Wang = Hwang

NO. That depends on which Wong, "yellow" -> Huang , "king" -> Wang.

Lin Can
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From: ckkwan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Chunming Kenneth Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Help ! N Y Giants fan looking for "air" time in HK !
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:21:28 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <6130069@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>mkcman@napier.waterloo.edu (Marcus Man) /  4:32 pm  Jul 27, 1992 /
>>Hi,
>>
>>        I don't think they have any "LIVE" event for pro football in HK,
>>the only coverage is the super bowl final and that is all. Try the satellite TV,may be t hey have it. Don't worry if they don't have it. You will find many
>>other sports there. I know that they have baseball on satellite TV. But it 
>>is not major league, it is NCAA baseball, no good!!!
>>
>>Marcus Man
>>U  of  Waterloo
>>Canada
>
>>----------
>
>American football (sorry, but you know, in UK and HK, football means different
>sport) has never been a popular sport in HK. I don't think TV would have
>any show of it, even super bowl, may be a few shoots. Have you seen the
>world cup or Eurpean cup in US national stations? Same things happen.
>
>Yuk

The Super Bowl was actually carried live on TVB about 2 years ago, though
interest in american football was and still is wanting.  Nevertheless, TVB
still carries a weekly NFL program showing one edited game and highlights of
all the other games played the week before.

Kenneth Kwan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sonford@milton.u.washington.edu (Sonford Yuen)
Subject: Re: Mr. Patten
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 07:18:02 GMT

>|> Dear Chris Patten,
>|> 
>|> This is to congratulate you on becoming Hong Kong's last Governor.
>|> May your stay there be fruitful, eventful and restful.
>|> I am sure you can please everyone.
>|> Best Wishes.

It's extremely hard to imagine that Governor would please everyone in
HK. Not from the philosophical view that nobody would please everyone
in the world, just from the current political reality, it's a long tough
raod for Chris.

Communists would never stop pressuring him, preventing him from appointing
any "pro-democracy" legislative councillors to the Executive council, and
Chris has shown his determination to be an "strong leader with no compromise
with the Chinese government", so how can he please those deterioating Chinese
government officials?

Also, there're already some appointed councillors who used to support the 
HK government and Britain (they're appointed by the British) turn to the
"embrace of the Chinese government" and start to criticize and pressure
HK and British government, (what an obvious evidence of weakness and
shame of human beings) it seems that they would ask the Governor more than
they work with him.

Finally, the "pro-democracy" groups are always critical and sometimes radical
they would not easily say a word "Satisfactory" for the work of Chris.

So, don't be confused by the superficial phenomenon that Gov. Chris Pattern
was welcomed by the HK people in his first few days, it's long road for him,
as I said.

It's no doubt that we should appropriately support Gov Chris Pattern so that
he can keep the prosperity of HK and lead it to be more democratic and 
human right oriented, but by the way we must admit and be aware that       
HK, no matter governed by whom, will face great challenges in the future and
so is the Gov Chris Pattern.

Sonford
(Seattle)


















Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Wendy Lee)
Subject: Infon about UW-Madison
Originator: wlee@unixg.ubc.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:55:28 GMT

   I had studied 1st year Engineering in UW-Madison for 1 year(90-91).
In my opinion, this university is generally a good university while
the tuition fees is not expensive, compared with other universities in
the states. But the weather in Madison is really very cold in winter
time. So if one decides to go to UW-Madison, one should consult with
students there for more details about what should bring from HK. Also,
Madison is a university-town. So it is quite boring to study there as not
many activites can be done under such cold weather. It is undoubtedly that
UW-Madison is a beautiful and quiet place for one to concentrate on the
studies.

    I know few types of Engineering in UT-texas has a higher ranking that
UW-Madison offers. I am not sure the ranking of Computer Science of these
2 universities. One should check about the up-dated informtaion before
choosing between these 2 universities.

    GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                       
                                           Yours Sincerely,
                                  
                                                     Wendy (LEE)

**************************************************************************

     LEE, Wendy Woon-ming
     wlee@unixg.ubc.ca               

***************************************************************************
From: bonl2@DORA.CFSMO.HONEYWELL.COM (Boniface Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: video games from Hong Kong
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:26:21 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Inc.

I am just wondering whether video games like Genesis could be bought from
HK and played in the US??  Do I need a multisystem TV to play the game?
Friend of mine bought the Genesis here in the US and he likes to buy some
games from HK....he heard that some of them are really fun to play!

Thanks for any info...
--
Boniface K. Lee (bonl2@cfsmo.honeywell.com)
Honeywell Commercial Flight Systems - Minneapolis Operations
(612) 785-4629
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Wendy Lee)
Subject: Infn about UW-Madison...
Originator: wlee@unixg.ubc.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:51:58 GMT

   I had studied 1st year Engineering in UW-Madison for 1 year(90-91).
In my opinion, this university is generally a good university while
the tuition fees is not expensive, compared with other universities in
the states. But the weather in Madison is really very cold in winter
time. So if one decides to go to UW-Madison, one should consult with
students there for more details about what should bring from HK. Also,
Madison is a university-town. So it is quite boring to study there as not
many activites can be done under such cold weather. It is undoubtedly that
UW-Madison is a beautiful and quiet place for one to concentrate on the
studies.

    I know few types of Engineering in UT-texas has a higher ranking that
UW-Madison offers. I am not sure the ranking of Computer Science of these
2 universities. One should check about the up-dated informtaion before
choosing between these 2 universities.

    GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                       
                                           Yours Sincerely,
                                  
                                                     Wendy (LEE)

**************************************************************************

     LEE, Wendy Woon-ming
     wlee@unixg.ubc.ca               

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From: RAM@hpd.unp.ac.za
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: E-mail address for HK Polytech wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:20:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpd.RAM.26
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Natal (Pietermaritzburg)

I need a contact address for the Info Systems/Computing Department at Hong 
Kong Polytech.  I will be grateful for any help via e-mail or otherwise
thanks

Dr Vevek Ram
Dept of Comp Sci
Univ of Natal
South Africa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: edwka@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Wing K. Au)
Subject: Re: email from fidonet to internet?
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:30:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.203007.2756@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
> Anyone know how can I sent a email from fidonet in
> Hong kong to internet?
> I can send the email from internet to the BBS in HK
> but they can't send email to me? any ideas?
> 
> thanks in advances
> 

Two similar actions could be taken:

(i) Ask the recipient of your mail to "reply" your mail on his/her system if
the system does have such a function;   or
(ii)Ask the recipient of your e-mail to find out from the received mail the
exact path(s) the mail has travelled.  That should provide sufficient
information as to how mail could be sent to you.

Wing Au,
University of Newcastle,
Australia.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

To play MegaDrive (Japanese version of Genesis) games on Genesis, all you
need is an adaptor that goes in between Genesis and the game cartridge.
My brother bought one of these adaptors in HK that plugs into the cartridge
slot of the machine.  Then, you plug a MegaDrive cartridge into the adaptor.
The adaptor costed around HK$20-30.  Eventhough many of the MegaDrive games
are available to Genesis, a lot of the great games haven't been translated to
English.  When you buy MegaDrive cartridges, be aware that the manuals are
written in Japanese.  So don't buy very complicated games if you don't
read Japanese.

Paul Law
From: wlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Wendy Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: More Infn about UW-Madison
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:46:52 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Originator: wlee@unixg.ubc.ca


     I agree with Sunford Yuen's opinion that: gossips are common among
HK students in UW-Madison. Sometimes gossips are unavoidable even though
you may not have done anything wrongly because people are too boring that
'news' of others seem to be an 'interesting' topic to discuss.

     BUT, one can get valuable friendship as HK students are so intensive
in the small campus area. People have close relationship and most of them
are very helpful. I think the living experience in UW-Madison is important
to me as the university itself is good and the HK students there are very
nice,too. If one does everything on the right track, one does not afraid 
of any rumours as they will pass away with times.:-)

     If anyone wants more information about UW-Madison, you can feel free
to send mails to me. I will ask my friends and try to help you.:-)

     GOOD LUCK!!!!!!

                                                        Yours Sincerely,
                                                               Wendy (LEE)

*************************************************************************
                
                Name: LEE, Wendy Woon-ming
                Major: Electrical Engineering (2nd year)
                Email address: wlee@unixg.ubc.ca

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From: luk@cs.rochester.edu (Steve Luk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Fortune cookies, sushis, eggrolls etc.
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:38:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester

In article <19521@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou) writes:
>Hi guys,
>
>   I just thought of a very interesting question, at least to me...
>   Where in the world did FORTUNE COOKIES come from??????????
>
As far as I can tell, FC came from some Chinese restaurants in San
Francisco, CA. Why? I don't know! Seems to me that this brilliant
person merged the famous Chinese Food with one of our traditional
fortune telling techniques to make this.
BTW, I have heard that FC comes with different flavors now. Do they
have strawberry flavor? B-)

>
>   I am also wondering why the people here define "sushi" as raw
>   fish?  I've had so many sushis in my life and never once did
>   I see any sign of fish in my sushis!  (well, maybe dried fish
>   or something like that)
>
Strange! Most of the sushi's I've seen and eaten are made up of fishs (eel,
tuna, yellowtail, etc), shrimps, crab meat, octopus or squid.
Though there some egg, beef sushi's, I like the seafood sushi's
better. B-P

>   Brandon
>--
>Brandon S. Ou               Computer Science    
>University of Arizona       Tucson, Arizona
>Internet:  bsou@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
>" It's up to YOU... "  - Kevin Costner as Jim Garrison, "JFK" 
>

Steve
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bus462db2@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: SOS!!!  
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:06:14 GMT

Hi!!!
	I'm just urgently needing someone telling me how to get here on an
AIX machine(RS/6000).  You know on a VAX you read news via VNEWS(do you?)
But I can't make it happen on an AIX thing!!  If you think you can
help, please send mail to me.  Thanks!!!

	My email address is   william@natimuk.acci.com.au

---
cheers,
Bill Lo
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