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From: aldis@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Date: 13 Jan 93 11:58 EST
Subject: Woman Opposes Femocrat in WA Poll
Nf-ID: #N:peg:996200280:000:2907
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!aldis    Jan 13 11:58:00 1993


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Reproduction in any other form is subject to normal copyright
requirements. 

                         * * * * *

PREMIER FACES RAUNCHY OPPOSITION

PERTH, Jan 12 AAP _ West Australian Labor Premier Carmen
Lawrence is facing some raunchy opposition in her bid for
re-election.

Karen Zielinski, 38, who owns a topless Perth restaurant is
contesting Dr Lawrence's seat of Glendalough as an independent at
the February 6 poll.

Mrs Zielinski, a former Perth beauty queen, is also a director
of Raunchy Promotions which, among other things, provides strippers
for Perth pubs.

She today claimed Dr Lawrence was trying to shut down her
restaurant, Slic Chix, which is in the same street as the premier's
electoral office.

"I will not be bulldozed by a feminist politician," she said.
Mrs Zielinski said she would campaign on an election platform of
a fair go for small business.

She said although she and Dr Lawrence were close in age -- the
premier is 44 -- they were poles apart.

"As a student the premier was responsible for banning the Miss
University pageant," Mrs Zielinski said.

"I was a former Miss West Coast (1974) and represented WA in the
Miss Australia title."

Mrs Zielinksi said her restaurant was "unique" in WA and was an
upmarket establishment where diners were served by skimply clad and
topless girls.

Girls would also, on request, sit on the men's knees and feed
them desert, sometimes naked, in a VIP room. Strippers also performed there,
she said.

Mrs Zielinski said Slic Chix -- which she runs with her husband
Steve -- had been packed with accountants, lawyers and doctors
since it opened on December 1.

She said Raunchy Promotions was an entertainment agency handling
male and female dancers, strippers and revues.

"We were running a low-key business until Dr Lawrence started
making a big song and dance out of nothing," she said.
Dr Lawrence said today the Zielinski's restaurant was breaching
local government and state laws.

"I've indicated they are clearly in breach of local government
and state laws and they should conform with them," she said.

"I've also indicated my distate for the activities going on
there.

"The mothers of some of the people working there have contacted
my office and they are none too pleased with what their daughters
are being asked to do -- so I'm not alone in that."


                         * * * * *

Australian Associated Press (AAP) is a news wire service specialising in the
provision of general news articles for print, radio and television media. 
Address: GPO Box 3888, SYDNEY  2001, AUSTRALIA.  Phone: +61 2 236 8800.  Fax:
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Disclaimer:  I am not an employee or associate of Australian Associated Press. 
I just think they provide a reasonable news service.

Aldis Ozols
Sydney, Australia
Newsgroups: aus.politics
From: suter@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr D. Suter)
Subject: Re: Clever Voting
Keywords: federal elections
Organization: Monash University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:44:02 GMT

In article <dyfl.726282282@phobos> dyfl@kbs.citri.edu.au (Daniel Lam) writes:
>suter@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr D. Suter) writes:
>>Well in my seat my vote went (technically at least but by that stage
>>there really was no point in going through the actual motions of redistribution)
>>to the Labor party candidate even though I DEFINITELY wanted to put a stop to 
>>their mortgaging of all our present and future assets. 
>>(Would those who didn't put Labor last please donate their share of
>>the state debt to me now :-))
>
>If you put Labor last there was no way your vote would get
>distributed to the ALP candidate.  When there are only two candidates
>left, at least one of them has a majority (OK OK so they could have
>exactly equal numbers of vote but I don't think that was the case)
>and wins.  So even if these two candidates were you last two choices,
>you vote will never be distributed to your last choice.
>
>You seem to be talking about redistribution until one candidate is
>left with 100% of the vote.  Well in that case everybody's vote gets
>distributed to the winner, and all our MPs were elected unanimously.
>:-)

Yes. The preferential system works in exactly that way IN PRINCIPLE. Taken as
a mathematical definition this is the simplest definition.  Of
course redistribution ceases IN PRACTICE when one party cannot be defeated
by the remaining redistribution. "Unanimous" makes no sense in this
system unless you are talking about primary preferences, i.e., a party
that receives 100% of the valid votes as first preference.  
>
>In any case I don't think the original advice was accurate.  I
>remember at the last federal election a formal ballot had to have
>every box numbered except possibly one.  More than one blank and the
>whole vote becomes informal.  If they've changed it since then they
>sure haven't told me.

It would appear that the case is that only one box can be left
unnumbered. In any case, I don't care. That would only make
useless advice only more useless. (If you vote 1 for any of the
two major parties, then your preferences are usually irrelevant
anyway since your votes will be the last to be re-distributed -
in practice that means no actual re-distribution of your vote is necessary
as a winner has already been declared/found. If you don't vote
1 for a major party, or live in Wills, then the advice is still
useless if you put your *hated* parties after any *non-hated* ones.)
I think we all agree that the advice was practically useless.
d.s.


-- 
David Suter - Dept. of Electrical and
Computer Systems Engineering, Monash University,
Clayton, Vic. 3168, Australia
ph 565 5682 Fax 565 3454
From: hthiew@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Hong Hiew)
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: What is best?
Date: 9 Jan 1993 02:40:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19 #1

	How are the policies different (particularly between Labor
   and Liberal) to an average soon-to-be graduate in Australia?

Newsgroups: aus.politics
From: u906789@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner)
Subject: Re: Clever Voting
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:36:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.030556.254@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au>, jak@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr J Grimm) writes:
> 
> From article <1i8dr8INN4eq@werple.apana.org.au>, by duncan@werple.apana.org.au (Duncan Robertson):
> > PLEASE NOTE: I am posting this text file for a friend who wanted it posted.
> > The views expressed are his, not mine. I'll pass on any comments and flames
> > to the author. Hopefully soon he will have an account and will be able to
> > respond directly.
> >   HOW TO VOTE CLEVERLY  (in AUSTRALIA, i.e. FEDERAL ELECTION)
> > However, there is a solution.  Even though all how-to-vote cards (all I've seen
> > , anyway) have "number all the boxes" on them, this is NOT CORRECT.
> > YOU DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT HAVE TO NUMBER ALL THE BOXES !!!.
> > It is COMPLETELY LEGAL to ONLY NUMBER THE BOXES AS FAR AS YOU WANT.
> > CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF, don't rely on my word if you don't believe me.
> > Just call the Australian Electoral Commission, and make a general inquiry.
> > It's in your Phone Book.
> > The number in Victoria is:   (03) 651 6201
> > 

The federal electrol system is stupid anyway. It should be replaced with the
Hare-Clarke system so a result is achieved which actually reflects the 
electorates vote.

mark.
From: apr110@rsphy7.anu.edu.au (Anthony Roberts)
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Clever Voting
Date: 12 Jan 1993 07:49:25 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: apr110@rsphy7.anu.edu.au (Anthony Roberts)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.15.106

At some stage in the past someone (Harry Van Morst?) mounted a legal
challenge in the High(?)
court regarding voting in state (?) elections. He was sucessful in
getting the court to agree that 
marking less than n boxes on a ballot paper was still formal. And for
you 'RE: Clever Voting'
aficinado's less than n-1 also!  Can someone shed light on this matter.

Tony
Newsgroups: aus.religion
Subject: In-Line Skaters
From: matljc@luxor.latrobe.edu.au (Leonie Joy Cullie )
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:19:19 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
Keywords: In-Line Skaters


Howdy,

	I was wondering if there are any In-Line Skaters (ie Roller Bladers)
in Melbourne or Adelaide interested in going for a skate or forming a
In-Line Skater's Friendship Group.  If you are interested e-mail me!!!

God Bless
Phantom
Newsgroups: aus.parallel,comp.parallel
From: nharvey@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Nicole Harvey)
Subject: Assessing a language
Apparently-To: hypercube@hubcap.clemson.edu
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:57:12 GMT

[ John Feo at LLL had a set called the salishan problems. I have put a
  copy of the problems and a bib. ref to his book in parlib.
	shell> mail parlib@hubcap.clemson.edu
	       Subject:
	       send index from salishan
	       .
	shell>

  I'd be glad to take any new problems and add them into this set.
]
hi,
   I am involved in assessing a language. Does anyone know of a standard
set of problems that I could use to judge the languages compabilities?
   Can anyone think of a problem that represents a real need in a language?
For example, we have tested it for the eight queens problem to show that 
it can do state space searches. We have also made sure it can generate the 
Fibonacci numbers. Can you think of any other well known problems?
   What things do you expect to be able to write relatively simply using any
language? I would like to here from people working in all areas. 

Nicole
nharvey@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au
From: u5533129@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.mail
Subject: sending mail to fidonet
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:13:03 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne


I want to send mail to a user on Fidonet.  The address of the board is given as
3:634/289 and, initially, I want to send to myself, Peter Summers.  What is the
correct address to use?

Thanks,

Peter
Newsgroups: aus.mail
From: bevans@jabaru.cec.edu.au (Brian Evans)
Subject: Re: sending mail to fidonet
Organization: Jabaru Timesharing, Melbourne Australia
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 13:47:26 GMT

u5533129@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:


>I want to send mail to a user on Fidonet.  The address of the board is given as
>3:634/289 and, initially, I want to send to myself, Peter Summers.  What is the
>correct address to use?

Peter, the correct format when sending mail to fidonet from AARnet is as
follows:

user.name@fxxx.nxxx.zx.fidonet.org

Where:

f = Node number
n = Net Number
z = Zone number ( Australia Zone 3 )

Therefore:

3:634/289

Peter.Summers@f289.n634.z3.fidonet.org

Brian Evans
From: cpatten@flash.pax.tpa.com.au (Craig James Patten)
Newsgroups: aus.mail
Subject: Re: sending mail to fidonet
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:18:15 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide)
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: flash.pax.tpa.com.au

bevans@jabaru.cec.edu.au (Brian Evans) writes:

>user.name@fxxx.nxxx.zx.fidonet.org

>Where:
>f = Node number
>n = Net Number
>z = Zone number ( Australia Zone 3 )
>Therefore:
>3:634/289
>Peter.Summers@f289.n634.z3.fidonet.org

It is also possible to use IXgate (3:713/602 or fido.zeta.org.au) to
communicate between FidoNet and the Internet:

[Using the same key as above]:

firstname.lastname@fxxx.nxxx.zx.fido.zeta.org.au

(Note: for FidoNet Zone 3 mail, the `zx' above can be omitted.)

So Peter Summers at 3:634/289 is Peter.Summers@f289.n634.fido.zeta.org.au.

Craig.
cpatten@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Dracula
From: agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (p-m agapow)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:35:51 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Calvin Coolidge Home for Dead Biologists


Postview : a belated review of BRAM STOKERS DRACULA


Summary : although a bloated and in some ways poorly made film, _Dracula_
  is worth seeing, and worth paying for at the cinema.

Let's get this start from the onset, whilst this film does in some ways
hark back more to the novel than previous versions, it still plays it very
quick and dirty with the plot of the original novel. Many standard 90s
film cliches are inserted and some of the Victorian aspects cast out to
make it more palatable for modern audiences. So more than "Bram Stokers",
this film is "Francis Ford Coppola's" _Dracula_.

Again Coppola shows his biggest problem is a lack of discipline. _Dracula_
totters about for 2 hours before dashing towards a finish. Clever camera
and editing techniques are used and overused until the point of nausea.
Excessive and extraneous narration is allowed to amble along while basic
plot flaws are left outstanding.

Yet _Dracula_ is worth seeing. Thankfully a valant attempt has been made
to equip the characters with authentic accents, dress and attitudes.
(Although one is forced to wonder about Keanu Reeves accent and some of
the, uh, _interesting_ and un-Victorian nightdress.) While the acting is
not extraordinary, is is at least adequate. Surprisingly Winoma Ryder does
quite well (as Mina) as does Gary Oldman (as the Count). Some of the sets
and visuals as well as cinematography is stunning. And _Dracula_ does
contain a few moments of genuine suspense and horror (thankfully free of
splatter).

As i estimate this movie would lose a lot on the small screen and the
visuals (and parts of the story) do carry the movie along, this is one for
the cinema. recommended with qualifications.

p-m

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
paul-michael agapow (agapow@latcs1.oz.au) Machine Intelligence Lab, LaTrobe Uni

        "Teenage sex, nuclear winter, Junior Miss fashion 
               & the mechanics of emotional capitalism ..."
Newsgroups: aus.films
From: gifford@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Jonathan Gifford)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:35:57 GMT

agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (p-m agapow) writes:


>While the acting is
>not extraordinary, is is at least adequate. Surprisingly Winoma Ryder does
>quite well (as Mina)

At the risk of offending all Wynona (sp? how many can we have before
the end of this thread?) Ryder fans, I have to say she is pretty much
the same as in all her other films here - not bad, but not good
either. I can't help thinking someone who can act would have been a
better choice, but then I suppose the script didn't actually give much
scope for that, even if they'd found someone who could...

>as does Gary Oldman (as the Count). 

Again risking being flamed into oblivion, I'd say Gary just doesn't do
much here either. Compared to some of his other roles (Sid & Nancy,
Prick Up Your Ears), this one just seemed flat. I guess anyone who
tries to act through a centimeter or fifteen of latex is going to have
a few problems, so I guess he has an excuse this time.

>Some of the sets
>and visuals as well as cinematography is stunning. And _Dracula_ does
>contain a few moments of genuine suspense and horror (thankfully free of
>splatter).

A Coppola movie that didn't look like Cecil B worked on a budget? You
must be kidding. Some of the special effects are definitely on the
wacky side, however, like the train zipping through the blue/green/red
countryside. I liked all the fakeness, the wierd gravity, and the
complete OTTness of it all. Not sure about genuine horror, though...
Maybe I've just read too many Unix man pages.

>As i estimate this movie would lose a lot on the small screen and the
>visuals (and parts of the story) do carry the movie along, this is one for
>the cinema. recommended with qualifications.

I agree. It'd be like watching The Mission on a Casio 3". Anyway, I
recommend it highly. I didn't mind the length too much, because I like
the silliness used to pad it out. Not a great movie, but good
entertainment, and well worth paying full price for, even if only
once. 

jon


-- 
Jonathan Gifford        gifford@vis.citri.EDU.AU        gifford@cs.mu.OZ.AU
--- CITRI, 723 Swanston St, Carlton, VIC 3053, Australia  +61 3 2822475 ---
      He didn't say "thou shalt have dominion over a big wad of tofu"
From: dean@xocolatl.com (Dean Dierschow)
Newsgroups: aus.games
Subject: Trading partners?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 00:28:15 PST
Reply-To: dean@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

Hello.

I collect cartridges from many of the "classic" systems; mainly Atari 2600,
as well as many of the other systems.  I would be interested in corresponding
with anyone outside of the U.S. that collects these games and would like to
trade product and/or information.  If there is anyone who would like to do this,
please contact me at "dean@xocolatl.com".  Thanks.

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|_|_|_> | 3634 Congress Ct.   dean@xocolatl.com   home (510) 226-8219
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  |/    | "Well...It's early yet." -- Groucho Marx
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles)
Subject: Re: Melborne C of Cthulhu players wanted
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:25:55 GMT

GENDALL@licre.dn.mu.oz.au writes:

>I'm new(ish) to Melbourne and am looking for a group of mature 
>investigators to participate in a long-term Call of Cthulhu campaign, with 
>me as a Keeper. I've got several good modules ready to go, so if you're 
>interested, give me an e-Mail.

Try turning up to Conquest at Easter - there will be Cthulhu 
Conglomerate people there,

Otherwise the Melbourne Uni roleplaying club, Latrobe, or Monash
have lots of cthulhu players 

Eccles a
Ps: Your mailer bounced from monash.... bit suss.
From: Lisa.Chevallier@f360.n632.z3.fidonet.org (Lisa Chevallier)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Computer RPGs
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 13:11:02

SP>Hi,
SP>has anyone here played any of the SSI RPGs. I've got Pool of
SP>Radiance (am currently playing it), and Curse of the Azure Bonds. What
comes
SP>next?


  Right.. I have played Pool of Radiance. I have also played Eye of the
Beholder I, and Eye of the Beholder II: The Ledgend of Darkmoon.

  After Curse (or actually between Pool and Curse) is Hillsfar, which lets you
build up your characters. I beleive the next one in the series is Pools of
Darkness.

  Anyway, I mentioned EOB because it is easier to play, though you really need
the hint books to get through them.


  Lisa Alexandra Chevallier.

 * Origin: death... by chocolate (3:632/360)
From: Jason.Kisielis@f513.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Jason Kisielis)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: W40k
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:51:14

  Tonight I will be photocopying all available info on the two chapters you
mentioned and mailing it to you. If you want the rules on the Kick arse
Treminaters you will need  the compendium or the complitaion. I am not sure
right now but this info will be in letter.
   To fill you in on what I know. The Ultramarines(My favorite Chapter) are the
most bound to the orginal layout and traditions of a marine chapter and are
also basically the most elite and are the emperors personnel chapter. Blood
angels are the most bloold thirsty chapter. Their leader was killed defending
the emperor from Primach Horus. They still keep his body. You probaly know the
uniforms by now.
  Any how to start your army like I said there is a box  called the Imperial
Space Marines containing thirty plastic men. These are great but its always
good to have a center piece. I myself have the land raider. I suggest a
dreadnought, Rhino, landraider, landspeeder etc. You should also get a couple
of specialist troops. Such as achaplain. They have good uses and really liven
your army up on the shelf and the battle field.
  .
 About my army. No its not all painted. Because I have been to busy painting my
High Elf Warhammer Army. Though I recently purchased a Ultramarine Commander
and painted him up. I suggest to use citadel brushes and paints because they
are the best by my opinion. In detail I have around thirty lead Mk7 Space
Marines. About 12 terminaters. A librarian, Two tech marines, A commander,
three captains. a land raider and a few other odds and ends. What I lack is
heavy weopens. I only have one, a Heavy plasma gun..
  well you should recieve my shit before next week. You made a great choice in
picking Ultra and I hope you kick some serious butt. Especially Chaos butt.

 * Origin: 4-DOS (3:635/513)
From: lewis@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za (Greg Lewis)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Cyberspace RPG
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:58:47 GMT
Organization: Univeristy of Natal, Pietermaritzburg, RSA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc022.cc.unp.ac.za
Summary: Cyberspace Role Playing Game

Hi I am looking for a group of persons playing Cyberspace RPG in South 
Africa, so I can trade ideas on modules and adventures.

Could those who have ideas and spare dusty modules perhaps E-mail me the 
ideas?

Greg Lewis
lewis@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Melborne C of Cthulhu players wanted
From: GENDALL@licre.dn.mu.oz.au
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:29:09 AET
Organization: Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research

I'm new(ish) to Melbourne and am looking for a group of mature 
investigators to participate in a long-term Call of Cthulhu campaign, with 
me as a Keeper. I've got several good modules ready to go, so if you're 
interested, give me an e-Mail.

Tony

gendall@licr.dn.mu.oz.au
From: Jason.Kisielis@f513.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Jason Kisielis)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Re: W40K
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:45:20

They probaly will just like warhammer fantasy battle. A beaut big box
containing lots of tuff orks and marines. A basic re-vamped rulebook and then
lots of supplements. All adding up to one big bill but what the heck.

 * Origin: 4-DOS (3:635/513)
From: Jason.Kisielis@f513.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Jason Kisielis)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Re: Space Hulk
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:43:40

I have actually used genestealer and the deathwing supplement. My favorite is
heelfie and vortex. Its a bitch though when it moves back into your own
section.

 * Origin: 4-DOS (3:635/513)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: stephen@cs.uow.edu.au (Stephen Lance Rogan)
Subject: CanCon info wanted
Keywords: info Cancon
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:59:20 GMT

I have the chance to travel to Canberra for CanCon, and I am after
any information I can get.
What is being run etc, and will there be any games that you
dont need to register ahead for (esp. Battletech or Paranoia).

Sorry if this is leaving things a bit late, but I anly found out a few days
ago that I could make it.

Thanks in advance
Stephen.
From: jdunn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dr J C Dunn)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Help with Ind. Jones Last Crusade
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:15:50 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

In the maze under the library in Venice, Indy gets to a grill beyond
which is a sarcophagus. This is really early in the game. How does Indy
get through the grill. Does anybody know?