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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 16 Dec 1992 09:41:50 EST
From: T. Peter Leone <IO20823@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Buffalo life?

none.
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From: bagel@vpnet.chi.il.us (marcia goldstein)
Subject: Re: Anyone?
Organization: Vpnet - Free Usenet access
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:37:17 GMT

Terry Chau (tchau@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
: Hi!  I'm from Liberty, NY -- cultural center of the UNIVERSE!!!  (my foot)

: Curious, but anyone out there who lives around Sullivan County?


: -- Chau

  Oh, you mean people actually *live* there?  :-)  I once spent a summer
  as a waitress in a hotel called the New Edgewood (which wasn't new and
  wasn't at the edge of any woods) in Loch Sheldrake.  Beautiful area and
  lots of fun things to do there, like rowing a boat across the lake and
  wandering around Brown's to see how the upper class lived.

  You wouldn't happen to know what ever became of that hotel, would you, or
  if it (amazingly) still exists?

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:02:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.010553.11669@ee.rochester.edu> jerry@ee.rochester.edu (Jerry Seward) writes:
>In article <marnie.724538947@ajax> marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:

>>Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.

>>> Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?

>>Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?

>Sure, I'm from Floyd.  Have you heard of that?


Hasn't *everyone*?  Named for General William Floyd, the residence of whom
still stands in the Village of Westernville, Town of Western... and who is
buried in the cemetary behind the Westernville Presbertian (sp?) Church...

Walt K.
-- militant Roman
From: lewis@b56vxg.kodak.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: QUESTION
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:48:00 GMT
Reply-To: lewis@kodak.com
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92353.095231IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (World Leader) writes...
>why is 50% of the female population of upstate NY
>named either JENNIFER or SUE?

I have never noticed that..

> 
>And why have you people adopted the Japanese custom
>of removing your shoes at the door?

Do you want the road salt all over your home ?  Or the tar from a freshly
tar and stoned road during the summer ?


> 
>---Andi
Ken Lewis
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From: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Albany ***UNION COLLEGE*** area
Reply-To: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:25:55 GMT

AAAAAH!

Finally someone from Schenectady..........

I grew up there and have since moved to Waltham, Mass, which, you
Schenectady-ans will be proud to know IS the deepest pit on earth.  At least
Schenectady caters to college students.

Is the Spectrum 4 Theaters in Albany still standing?  What's playing there now? 
Also, what's showing at Proctor's?  There are no movie theaters in Waltham!!

PS:  "Poughkeepsie" is pronounced "P'kpsee."  The fewer vowels you pronounce,
the better.

Thanx, guys... see ya later....

				Todd @ Brandeis

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: brent@ssd.csd.harris.com (Brent Benson)
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Organization: Harris Computer Systems
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:37:30 GMT

eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall) writes:
								Ratings (1-5)
Type		Name			Specialties		Food/Service/Ambience
--------------	----------------------	--------------------	---------------------
American	Hogan's Hideaway				3/3/4	
American	Rorbach's		House brew		4/3/3
Indian		India House					4/3/3

my entry:

Indescribable	Nick's			Garbage Plate		1/1/5



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Brent Benson                     
Harris Computer Systems
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: Re: "You're from New York City??"
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:02:47 GMT

jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jay Novello) writes:

: I moved to North Carolina about three and a half years ago.  I find that
: whenever I have to explain to someone where I moved from, I wind up
: explaining that New York State isn't all urbanized!  Sheesh...you'd
: think it was like New Jersey or something...:)

How about comments like ...

"Funny ... you don't talk with an accent" (Cheektowaga residents excepted)
"Have you ever been mugged?"
"How often do you see the Yankees play?"
"It must be nice to have all those Broadway shows nearby!"

For all the people that think the whole of New York State is one sprawling,  
high-crime megalopolis, it's no less humorous than the people from New York  
City that think Upstate NY is populated by Genesee swilling, corn cob pipe  
smoking, truck driving hicks that tip cows and cut wood for fun.  I'm also  
amused by Noo Yawkers that whine because they can't find some insignificant  
service at an ungodly hour in a relatively large city ... i.e. "It's three  
o'clock on a Sunday morning and I can't find a place that's open that serves  
onion and garlic bagels as good as Klein's Deli on 43rd and 2nd ... I haaaaate  
Buffalo!".        

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: pnilsson@dali.abo.fi (Patrik Nilsson INF)
Subject: Adirondacks
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:41:18 GMT

I spent a year at St. Lawrence University as a foreign student and I wonder if
there are any people from there reading this newsgroup. I bet they agree the
Adirondacks area is "the most beautiful place in the world." A perfect place
to go hiking!

The culture up there wasn't that diverse, but there were great connections
to Ottawa and Montreal. Especially Montreal had a lot to offer! 
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Patrik Nilsson  			e-mail:	pnilsson@aton.abo.fi
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From: cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi)
Subject: Albany **UNION COLLEGE** area
Reply-To: cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:54:48 GMT


	Anyone here from the Albany area?  More specificaly, at or around Union
College in Schenectady?  I transferred from there 3 yrs ago, and was wondering
what was new up there....

		Has the Nott Memorial fallen down yet?

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson)
Subject: Re: Albany **UNION COLLEGE** area
Followup-To: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:26:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.014531.6460@news.columbia.edu>,
cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi) wrote:
>  
> Hugh, you're from RPI?  Hmm, at union we had a hard time figuiring what RPI
> stood for....I thik we finally settled for Rats & Pigs Inc. or Rotten People
> Institutionalized....got any for UNION?

Yah, I believe the latest one was The School Whose Hockey Team's Ass We
Kicked Last Weekend.

Oh, wait! That doesn't spell UNION.  Well, that's okay.  Like you said,
Union people have a hard time figuring things out.

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From: sknezevi@aludra.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Weird Newsgroup
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:52:48 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Of course...what are you kidding?

In article <BzHMqp.G9I@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes) writes:
>Isn't Buffalo considered Western New York ?
>
>That's a good question for this group. What is Up-State?
>

Alright.......anything above the finger lakes.....and below Canda...can we
settle this...it's getting annoying.  If you're goin to consider Buffalo
not part of Upstate New York, you're crazy.  Essentially anything besides
NYC and the buroughs are part of upstate new york.  Sorry, my 2 pennies.

Steve Knezevich

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: jpk1521@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Weird Newsgroup
Reply-To: jpk1521@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:08:47 GMT

Buffalo Bills....

This is the group that many of the upstate folks get crazy over.....

I live in a very small town in upstate new york called Le Roy, NY and every
time there is a buffalo bills' home game going to happen... I usally see
a heavy traffic on the NY state thruway and people really pack it up...

one nice thing about this... PEOPLE DO CAR-Pool with each other and go 
to the buffalo games.... Usally mostly from rochester area and Syracuse area

Joel

Joel Krigsman
JPK1521@vaxa.rit.edu

P.S. I grew up in NYC and I do see this upstate NY is a completly diffrent
between NYC and here...

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: jdh@math.psu.edu (Jeremy D Hall)
Subject: Re: Albany **UNION COLLEGE** area
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:17:11 GMT

In article <MARY.92Dec18105430@martinique.Cayman.COM> mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros) writes:
>
>In article <johnsh-161292021801@mustang.stu.rpi.edu> johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
>
>   In article <1992Dec16.014531.6460@news.columbia.edu>,
>   cjd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher J de Zorzi) wrote:
>   >  
>   > Hugh, you're from RPI?  Hmm, at union we had a hard time figuiring what RPI
>   > stood for....I thik we finally settled for Rats & Pigs Inc. or Rotten People
>   > Institutionalized....got any for UNION?
>
>   Yah, I believe the latest one was The School Whose Hockey Team's Ass We
>   Kicked Last Weekend.
>
>And here I thought Union was The School Whose Hockey Team Skates Like
>They've Got Refrigerators Strapped To Their Backs.
>
>   Oh, wait! That doesn't spell UNION.  Well, that's okay.  Like you said,
>   Union people have a hard time figuring things out.
>
>Oooooh, cold *grin*
>
>I'll tell you, as an Upstate expatriate living in Boston, one of the best
>times I had in a long time was at last year's ECAC playoffs at Boston 
>Garden.  The final four were Clarkson, RPI, Cornell, and St. Lawrence.  
>My brother (Cornell alum) and his friend Dennis (St. Lawrence alum) 
>both came up for the event, and the three of us got to see some of the
>best hockey I've seen in a long time.  The playoff games were great, 
>and it was so nice to know that I'd be happy whoever won (the Saints, 
>in case you're wondering).  
>
>I don't believe the playoffs are in Boston this year, but I'd love to
>know where they are so I could go if it's possible.  Does anyone know
>the details of the ECAC playoffs, or any time when any ECAC teams might
>be playing in the Boston area?
>
>Thanks,
>
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>

Why, yes, the ECACs have moved out of the Gahden.  In fact they're in.....
LAKE PLACID!  Yes, that's right, UPSTATE NEW YORK!  (More importantly,
Clarkson's back yard, if they make it...).

And of course, Harvard always plays its home games in the Boston area  :^)

-Jeremy Hall
-Clarkson '91
jdh@math.psu.edu
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From: rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler)
Subject: Upstate Cultural Meccas (was Re: Moving to Fishkill)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:14:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division

In article <1992Dec17.053046.2913@athena.mit.edu> tchau@athena.mit.edu (Terry Chau) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.170629.7813@netcom.com>, mainkar@netcom.com (Varsha Mainkar) writes:
>|> 
>|>  Hi! I am absolutely thrilled to see this newsgroup. I am moving to Fishkill,
>|> NY (where else?) in January 93. Since I have spent my first 3 years in the 
>|> U.S.A in Durham (DukeLand), it's not like I am used to big-city-life anyway.
>|> But what does one do for "culture" in that area? (Except rushing to NYC every 
>  [Some deleted]
>
>Mid-Hudson Valley Philharmonic (my violin teacher's the concertmaster).  And I
>know there is a lot of camping hiking and biking and rock climbing around
> that cliff west of New Paltz.  There's also a Galleria and a South Hills mall
> between Poughkeepsie and Wappinger Falls.  And there is a place where they 
> sell great apples on Route 299 about 3 miles west of New Paltz.
>
>I'm not sure if the thing above helps, but if you look around hard enough, 
>you'll probably find something to do.  It also depends what things you like 
>to do, too.
>
>-- Chau
>

Is the Catskill Game Farm still there and close enough for a dose of good
upstate culture?

While I'm asking, how about such cultural meccas as Frontier Town, Howe's
Caverns and Santa's Workshop?
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From: strzelin@sscdaq.phy.bnl.gov (Bob Strzelinski)
Subject: Re: about alt.culture.long-island
Organization: Physics Dept., Brookhaven National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:56:21 GMT

I come not to bury Fat Hermann Goehring, but to paraphrase him:

"When I hear someone talk about alt.culture.long-island, I reach for my gun!"


(Wow, a recursive paraphrase!)


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Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: aultj@rpi.edu (Jim Ault)
Subject: Re: Would you consider ... Upstate
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
	<1gl74gINN9rd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1992Dec16.020417.2660@cirrus.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:08:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.020417.2660@cirrus.com> pete@cirrus.com (Pete Carpenter) writes:

   My brother just moved from "the city" to Tarrytown (not upstate)
   but its been 11 years since I ran kicking and screaming from
   PolyRensselInstitechnitute, so I had to look it up!

   We always thought of Troy as upstate. But, then, I grew up in Pound
   Ridge, we used to call that upstate too.  Maybe upstate is a state
   of mind.

I certainly think of this area as upstate, but with a large percentage
of Albany exhibiting the same "state of mind" as whatever "downstate" is.

   Does anybody know if College Ave still exists?  I was a resident in
   #22 (1981).  The Tute was supposedly waiting for all the houses to
   slide off so they could use it as their new grand entrance. No
   class like The Approach.

Yes, it still exists, and the Tute is still waiting.  They did buy a
few and tear them down, but there are still quite a few holdouts.  I
doubt it will be used as an entrance.  Another parking lot maybe...
--
Jim Ault, ITS Systems Programmer, aultj@rpi.edu    <><
Equal rights for unborn women (and men)!
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From: Jeff.Wang@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeff Wang)
Subject: Looking for an Address...
Summary: Looking in Franklinville.
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:56:18 GMT

Does anyone know of any colleges near Franklinville (about 1-2 hours S. of
Buffalo) and/or their addresses? (in e-mail format, of course.)

I'm looking to more easily contact a friend there.

jw

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From: brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj)
Subject: Columbia County (Chatham)
Reply-To: brekshyn@shearson.com
Organization: Ordinatio
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:52:01 GMT

Greetings,

   Anybody here from Columbia County or especially the Chatham area!  Would love
to hear about it...


					Bohdan






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From: rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani)
Subject: NEW YORK CITY!!!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:37:34 GMT


There's really no place like New York City. I moved to Boston this September,
and dicovered that there's _no_ night life here. The trains and busses stop
running at 1 am, and you have to be 21 to get into anything... I want to
move back!

Rajiv
From: eugenehs@girtab.usc.edu (HEUGE aka Eugene Hsu)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:58:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec18.151336.22381@watson.ibm.com> schultz@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>There's a place that serves chicken wings in a really awesome
>honey sauce, as well as in the traditional "buffalo" style.
>Anyone remember the name?  Mama's something or another?
>
>-- 
>Karl Schultz                             schultz@vnet.ibm.com
>These statements or opinions are not necessarily those of IBM

Could the location you think of be called....

Country Sweet Chicken and ribs... it's generally considered 
Ra-cha's wing joint...

And I JUST finished my last 2 finals... both in EE.... ack....

I am going home to nice freezing Rochester and getting away from
this stinking city called Los Angeles....  Ahhh I can't wait...
of course assuming that I don't get involved in another armed
robbery out here (no I wasn't doing the robbing).  8)

Monday and I will be in nice safe Upstate, NY, glorious in
all of its... errrr... snow....no that's not it.... ahhh I mean
splendor and ice... no no not that... ummm.... and pristine
beauty.

=Eugene=

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From: strzelin@sscdaq.phy.bnl.gov (Bob Strzelinski)
Subject: The Port City (readable repost)
Organization: Physics Dept., Brookhaven National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:21:10 GMT

Oswego, NY - "The Port City of Central NY" - that's my hometown, though I've
spent most of the last 20 years away from there, living in Syracuse, Ithace,
Binghamton, and currently, "Lawnguyland" (which I think is the correct spelling
rather than "Lon Guyland" - the natives say it as one word).  One thing LI does
that these other places couldn't do, sure makes me homesick for Oswego.

So, what's so special about Oswego?  Well, some of my fondest memories include:

1) The 4th of July Parade - It used to be a big deal with lots of marching bands and stuff, but seems to have become almost a parody of itself with most of the action going on in the crowd, sort of a Northern Exposure type of experience. Of course, some people just don't get it. Not to be missed...

2) Wade's Diner - Only open for breakfast, Only open for SERIOUS breakfast!

3) Rudy's (aka The Stands)- A Texas Hot, double order o' mushrooms, and a Genny Cream Ale, PLEASE! Oh, and gimme about a hundred orders of fish & chips to take back to Lawnguyland, 'cause the seafood restaurants there SUCK!

4) Oswego politics - When I was in high school (early 70's) we were pretty cynical about the local pols and thought the local scene was pretty funny (of course then we also thought the idea of Ronald Reagan going into politics was funny). Don't know if the local scene has cleaned up, but I hear it's become a bit more sophisticated. Too bad. It was great preparation for later in life when you realize that your national leaders are nothing more than the same bunch of crazy Rotarians you saw through as a kid 


(except they have a bigger budget to screw up, and... NO, it can't be!!!,,, they've got a nuclear arsenal!!! Look OUT!!!)

5) The Bridge Street Run - Not an athletic event, not a marathon. Merely, the attempt to do the impossible - visit (and patronize) every bar on Bridge St. in a single night of drunken debauchery. Of course, if you started at the west end of Bridge and made it to the east end, by that time, another bar would have opened back on the west side and you have to start over, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...

Well, I could go on, but it would be nice to see some other folks' additions to
this list. Let's hear it from Oswego, I know there are computers there, at least
at the college.

 
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From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Would you consider Kingston Upstate
Keywords: Kingston
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:56:47 GMT

Nope, absolutely nothing south of the Governor Thomas E. Dewey Thruway is
'Upstate'.  Oh, forget the 'San Diego' address... I'm a Roman.

Walt K.
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