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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Stupid Rumor 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:30:53 GMT

>the purpose of killing off Kirk!!??!!! I also heard that DS9 was slated to be
>cancelled because a test audience hated it.

How could a test audiance hate DS9 if it has yet to film?  They just finished
castinga week ago.  At least you said it was an unfounded rumor.

-- 
"What is happiness, after all, but the fleeting, transitory butterfly of an
emotion that is impossible to catch and hold for long before it flies away"
             Margaret Weis "Star of the Guardians" Volume 3
    Eric Jeffery (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu) StarBase Express (303)450-2454
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From: barker@dmpe.csiro.au ( David Barker)
Subject: Re: Pardom my ignorance
Organization: CSIRO. Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:36:02 GMT

In article <990@dgaust.dg.oz> writes:
>And any typos...
>Can someone tell me what series Star Trek:TNG is up to ? (ie: 5th etc)
>And, how many episodes have been made so far ??

There are currently 5 full seasons produced and airded in US with a
total of 126 episodes (so far).  They are currently filming season 6
and a spin off series Deep Space Nine.

>Our local commercial station, GTV9 has the TV rights to TNG from the
>2nd series onwards and Star Trek viewers are treated with contempt by
>them eg: originally aired here 8.30pm on Wednesday nights, episodes
>from the 2nd & 3rd series shown out of sequence: reason given "Selected

Actually so far they have only chosen episodes from season 1 and 2 (they
do NOT have the rights to season 3 at present, and by they way it is
treated, they will probably not renew them for season 3.  We can only hope)

>episodes were chosen for viewer impact by our progammers", TNG now airs
>at 11.30 pm Thursday nights with the reason given that programming laws
>require them (GTV9) to show more Australian produced content at the 8.30
>timeslot....what a crock of sh*t !!! I wish GTV9 would dump the goddamned
>rights so we could get the seires back on video ! At least we used to get 
>the episodes in order and 2-4 times a month (no ads!)...please reply to

They are not going to release any more episodes for hire in AUS on video 
tape, but they may come out for sale here.  They are currently for sale in UK
(same TV format) at two episodes per tape.  For info, the Best of Both Worlds
video that they have currently released for hire, they reedited the scenes at
the end of the episode.

>this newsgroup and not myself as this profile has been set up for me by
>someone who knows what he's doing, I'm just a hack and can only view
>these messages at this stage
>Thanks 
>Fred Brown DGA South Melbourne Victoria Australia 

David Barker
<barker@dmpe.csiro.au>
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From: justin@lkba (Justin Blische)
Subject: Re: CONFIRMED!!!   SEASON PREMIERE
Reply-To: uunet!lkba!justin
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:50:32 GMT

In article <RANNOU.92Aug29052129@zuse.info.polymtl.ca> Rannou@info.polymtl.ca  
(Patrick Rannou) writes:
> In article <5950@transfer.stratus.com> savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia)  
writes:
> 
> 
>    In article <1992Aug27.133447.17817@ctr.columbia.edu>,  
Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU (Charles Laine) writes:
>    > How will the 1701-D crew return from the 19th century to their own time?
>    > 
>    > How about this...
>    > 
>    > The crew lives ordinary lives until the time of "City on the Edge of
>    > Forever".  A few of them die of old age by this time.  They send Data
>    > through the big rock-donut and he exits with Kirk and crew.  Then, data
>    > waits around until the Boseman is commisioned.   He hitches a ride on  
the
>    > Boseman, and waits till it exits the causality loop returning him to his
>    > normal time.  Data then borrows a bird of Prey from his Klingon friends
>    > made in "Redemption" and hunts down Spock to help him fetch the 1701-D
>    > crew.  Spock and Data perform time travel around the sun and succesfully
>    > arrive at San Fransisco at the time of "Time's Arrow".  They remembered
>    > to bring extra dylithium crystals this time.  They pick up the rest of
>    > the crew, somehow destroy the menace presented in the first half of
>    > "Time's Arrow", and attempt to return to their proper time.  But, oops,
>    > during the return time trip, someone askes Spock 'How do you feel"?   
This
>    > distracts Spock long enough to screw up the time travel computations. 
>    > The Bird of Prey ends its time travel journey 22 years earlier than it
>    > should.  Guinan, who's perception "goes beyond linear time" instructs
>    > Picard that the Enterprise C will be making a stop in the Future.  So,
>    > everyone hops abord the Enterprise C, heads for Nirendra 3 and waits for
>    > the rift to open.  The temporal rift opens, the Enterprise C exits 22
>    > years later, and the 1701-D crew is returned to their normal time.
>    > 
>    > THE END
> 
> 
>    *MASSIVE APPLAUSE*   *Bravo*
> 


It sounds like a great show ,but the writers will probely do something very  
cheesy.So they can fit it into 55 minetes and kill the bad gise in the last 3.



                                                             justin
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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Problem with Scotty being on TNG
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:20:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.220939.9036@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00jdbecktel@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>I also have an Irk with this theory about Scotty being on TNG.
>Isn't he just too fat to be on network television.

Ah. Bigotry.


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Subject: Re: What's Babylon 5 ???
From: system@memalph.UUCP (Woody Harper)
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:14:21 GMT
Organization: Memory Alpha BBS - Phoenix, AZ - +1 602 863 2009

bruno@broue.rot.qc.ca (Bruno Majewski) writes:

> 
> well, the title says it all. What's B5?
> 

In a word... SHIT!

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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:37:15 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <matt.715562313@unidata.ucar.edu> matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks) writes:
>>Probalbly in a love den somewhere...and freeing their minds with "LDS" :-)
>>It was conceived in the 60's after all! 
>
>I know, I know, you're never supposed to post just to correct someone's
>spelling, but "LDS"?! You spell it when you say it, and if you can't
>do one, you can't do the other.

Dude, did you notice that he put "LDS" in *quotes*?  And the fact that
there's a :-) after it.  Maybe, just maybe he did it on purpose???

Now, why would he do something like that?  Well, it just so happens
that this is an "in" joke for those of us who have seen waaaay too much
Star Trek in our lifetimes.  I immediately recognized this from STIV:StW
(and I'm sure most of the people on this newsgroup did, too).

Even if you didn't catch the reference, you should have been able to
tell from the way he wrote it that he was doing it on purpose, no?


-- 
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Subject: Re: ST:TNG "UNIFICATION" SCRIPTS
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 01:29:23 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

els949n@mdw010.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr W.A. Tall) writes:

> To all startrek fans,
>                      i am a suffering fan who has just heard about the STTNG 
> 
> m !!!! Can anybody send me a script of the above mentioned episode???
>         I believe it was a two part episode entitled "Unification I & II"
>         I don't think i can wait 3 years for it to be screened here!!!!
>         Also, what's this i here about Scotty being thrust onto TNG???!!!
>         I hope it's true. 
>             
>            suffering in relative silence
>              
>                      THANKS IN ADVANCE
>                         W.TALL
>                         
>                         

Question...do you guys get the TNG novels?  If so, there was a novelization
of that episode, (the only novelization of an episode, so far),
entitled Unification.  I don't know who the author is, but that may
help.  I read the novel, it wasn't too bad.  It does add a bit more
then the episodes had, but that is usual for novelizations.
I hope this helps.  


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From: mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James)
Subject: Re: Smithsonian
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:55:49 GMT

nf00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (NATALIE FOSTER) writes:

>In article <23697@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, cmiller@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Catherine Mille
>r) writes:
>>Does anyone know if the ST exhibit is still going on at the
>>Smithsonian?  If so, how does one go about getting tickets?
>>
>Yes, the exhibit will run until Labor Day.  You can get a free ticket for a

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[much sobbing]

I was just there (in D.C.) last week and I had NO IDEA
there was an ST exhibit!!!!

[Bang]

[Thud]
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:19:33 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <matt.715562313@unidata.ucar.edu>, matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks) writes:
>>Probalbly in a love den somewhere...and freeing their minds with "LDS" :-)
>>It was conceived in the 60's after all! 
> 
> I know, I know, you're never supposed to post just to correct someone's
> spelling, but "LDS"?! You spell it when you say it, and if you can't
> do one, you can't do the other. To quote Julie Brown: "I can't spell VW,
> but I drive a Porsche."
> 
> Sorry.
> --
> _________________________________________________  /\_/\  _________________
> Matthew  B.  Hicks     | Unidata Program Center | ((ovo))  The spotted owl:
> matt@unidata.ucar.edu  | UCAR, PO Box 3000      | ():::()  the other "other
> 303/497-8676	       | Boulder, CO 80307-3000 |   VVV    white meat."   


Geez Louise guy!  Haven't you seen STV: The Voyage Home?  It's a joke, son,
a joke!  Kirk says LDS instead of LSD in the film.  Settle down and drop
a few latter day saints, why doncha?

Kellie
internet::Matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: STTNG Season SIX Broadcast Schedule
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:32:00 -0700
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Aug31.192348.6373@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
> In article <brian_vickers-310892094119@137.79.110.112>, brian_vickers@isd (Brian Vickers) writes:
>>Does anyone have plot synopsises (sp?) for these?
> 
>>> 130.  10/10/92  230                Relics
> 
> This is the first of the long anticipated "Early Pink Floyd album" episodes.
> Be sure to watch for "Umma Gumma" and "Atom Heart Mother" later this season.
> 

Oh sure!! And next you're going to tell me that pigs can fly...um...well
	(flashback to 1978 Pink Floyd concert inserted here)  B-{)! B-{)!

*sigh*
On a slow day you can dream forever...
Gabor.

-- 
    g  b    gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca   "Ye canna change th' laws of physic,
gggg   b    Victoria, B. C.	       Laws of physics"
g  g t b    (God's waiting room)       Ye canna change th' laws of physic, Jim"
ggggtttbbbb  							The Firm
   g t b  b 		"Am I the witness, or am I the crime
g  g t bbbb		 A victim of history, or just a sign of the times"
gggg  tt        				J. Clegg
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From: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Ron Beck)
Subject: RE: Warp Speed!
Reply-To: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com
Organization: When I get time...
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 21:32:10 GMT

It would seem that those who have surpassed the "warp 10" limit must
have the newer "Trans-warp" engines.  These engines develop a warp
bubble around a warp bubble to produce the increase in speed.

Of course, no captain of one of these high speed craft would *ever*
travel the galaxy without their sensors set to highway 8-)

Live long & prosper...

      You're a droid and I'm annoyed!   (Guinan)

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Subject: Re: a little controversy on the episode: the perfect mate
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:53:59 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:

> In article <JH25PB7w164w@kryton.UUCP>, ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) 
> 
> >> So, Picard sleeping with `someone like Vash/Vache' is *in* character, but 
> >> sleeping with someone `sexually indentured to another' *isn't* ? Sounds 
> >> like he's setting up a dangerously sexist double standard here. Perhaps we
> >> have just gotten an insight into *Stewart's* beliefs !
> >> 
> >> Besides, he can always claim that he was `setting her free' at the court 
> >> martial ! :-)
> > 
> >Actually, I think the "out of character" part was sleeping with someone
> >who was betrothed to someone else.  
> 
> I don't know ... I kinda liked my term `indentured'. There is a big 
> difference in *this* man's mind between hitting on a woman who has already 
> *chosen* a mate or SO, and hitting on one who is `promised' to someone with 
> no *choice* about it. Giving *both* of them `monkey' status isn't *quite* 
> right... she was to be *his* monkey, but he was *clearly* to be *her* 
> master. 
> 
> >Picard would not monkey with another monkey's monkey.  :)
> 
> Well, despite my joke about freeing her, which I *didn't* mean should be 
> used as a justification for jumping into bed (heck, her looks were 
> justification enough :-)), it wouldn't be out of character for Picard, once 
> having fallen in love with her, to feel like he ought to help her see the *
> lunacy* in going through with the arrangement. His `love' for the prime 
> directive would, of course, keep him from pursuing that course *directly*, 
> but I have to believe that his stomach was turned by the cold-bloodedness 
> of the whole thing. Where's the passion ? Where's the romance ??
> 
> Where's the damn `exit' key in this editor ... :-)
> 
> -- Stephen
> 
> 	"Some people live their dreams, some people close their eyes.
> 	 Some people's destiny... passes by"
> 
> 					I'll Be Over You  -- Toto
> 

Actually, I do see your point, Stephen.  I think I jumped the gun a bit, I
didn't quite noticed that you did refer to her as being indentured.  And, yes
I think it would be in Picard's character to dislike the idea of her
being in some sort of ownership situation.  So that it may be more for
the non-interference prime directive then for respect for her promised
union that he doesn't do anything physical with her.  I'd have to
re-watch the episode in order to write more on what I think might have
been going on in Picard's brain.  It's been a while since I've seen it,
and I'm not really remembering all the details.

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From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Subject: Re: The Man Trap
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 07:07:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.035211.10927@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <Zk2DqB10w164w@kryton.UUCP> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
>>atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:
>>> The Beeb showed the TOS episode *The Man Trap* last night, this was the first
>>> TOS episode to be broadcast on TV in america. Good to see Kirk, Spock and
>>> Bones together with the old polystyrene rocks and stuff. As usual the unknown
>>> crewmen got bumped off by the alien creature, it was after the salt in their
>>> bodies. There were some strange things though. At the start of the episode
>>> Uhura was shown driving instead of communicating, Sulu was in the botany lab
>>> instead of driving. McCoy was in the dispensary, not in sickbay.
>
>Well, actually "The Man Trap" was the 7th (or so) episode filmed, so the
>series had mostly taken shape by this time.  Most of the discrepancies
>above can be explained away pretty easily:

Although it was the 6th episode filmed, Man Trap's airdate was September 8,
1966.  It was the premier episode.  The numbers on the video boxes of
episodes do not correspond to broadcast dates.

>1) Sulu's duties included a few scientific ones on occasion, notably in
>   "Shore Leave", as I recall.  Originally (in "Where No Man Has Gone Before")
>   he headed the *physics department*.

One of the ways they explained Sulu's jumping around is by saying he would
become very intensely interested in a hobby for a period of time (plants,
fencing, etc.).  They imply that these passions are usually short-lived.

>>	   I'm not sure exactly what episode he becomes the Spock we 
>>all know and love.  Does anyone know what episode we find out that Spock
>>is half human?  My guess is that it is "Journey to Babel", where we first
>>see Sarek and Amanda.  But it may have been before.  Me being the young'en
>>that I am, (born the same year as Star Trek), I don't remember ever NOT
>>knowing that Spock was half human.
>
>Me, neither.  Only one Trek Classic episode was broadcast first-run during
>my lifetime. :-)

Well, every dang one of the things was a first-run in _my_ lifetime, and at
an time when I was old enough to have pretty good recall.  (Used to piss my
parents off BIG time that I could memorize Star Trek plots and entire Mad
Magazines, but not learn a word of Latin.  I like to think I just had a
clear sense of priorities...)

Anyway, Spock makes it clear that he is half-human in the following first
season episodes (Journey is a second season show):

The Enemy Within, aired 10/6/66:  "I have a human half as well, doctor."  
The 2 sides are constantly at war.

What Are Little Girls Made Of, 10/20/66:  "Mind your own business Mr.
Spock, I'm sick  of your half-breed interference."

I think there may be an episode before Enemy, but I can't think of it right
now.


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From: faurote@crchh484.BNR.CA (Joe Faurote)
Subject: Problem with Scotty, period...
Reply-To: faurote@crchh484.BNR.CA (Joe Faurote)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 18:09:34 GMT

I have actually had the occasion to meet Mr. Doohan here in Dallas and
there's something interesting about him that I haven't seen mentioned
before:  He's missing a finger on his right hand (if memory serves me
correctly).  I didn't know the proper etiquette for asking him about it
(Hey nice weather...What the hell???) so I left the matter closed.  Has
anyone noticed if he wears a prosthesis in TOS or in the movies, or do
they just avoid close-ups of his hands altogether?

Just nit-pickin' in Texas
From: molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: CONFIRMED!!!   SEASON PREMIERE
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:35:05 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

Charles Laine <Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU> writes:

>everyone hops abord the Enterprise C, heads for Nirendra 3 and waits for
>the rift to open.  The temporal rift opens, the Enterprise C exits 22
>years later, and the 1701-D crew is returned to their normal time.

Where they will then be forced to deal with the notion of MEETING 
THEMSELVES.


        -MOlin
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST: TNG actors on other series
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:25:56 -0700
Distribution: na
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Aug31.175949.12963@tin.monsanto.com>, lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.095929.931@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>> 
>> In article <4ec6Ok200UjU81UUVk@andrew.cmu.edu>, jp45+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jim Thomas Park , Jr.) writes:
>> > In article <1684A128D9.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>,
>> > YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>> >> 
>> >>     Here is one I've forgotten.  Gates McFadden has a very small role
>> >> in Muppets Take Manhatten as a secretary for a Broadway agent near the
>> >> beginning of the movie.
>> > 
>> > Here's another on for Gates. She was in The Hunt for Red October. She
>> > was Alec Baldwin's character's wife I believe.
>> > 
>> 
>> Problem with this citation:  Gates was left on the cutting room floor of that
>> movie...
> 
> If Gates was left on the cutting room floor of Hunt For Red October, how come
> I SAW her in that movie???????

Maybe I saw a different cut???  I distinctly remember being disappointed that
Mrs. Ryan didn't have a role in the movie - I liked her character in the book!

And the part about her scenes being cut has been revealed on the net before.

LL&P
Gabor.

-- 
    g  b    gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca   "Ye canna change th' laws of physic,
gggg   b    Victoria, B. C.	       Laws of physics"
g  g t b    (God's waiting room)       Ye canna change th' laws of physic, Jim"
ggggtttbbbb  							The Firm
   g t b  b 		"Am I the witness, or am I the crime
g  g t bbbb		 A victim of history, or just a sign of the times"
gggg  tt        				J. Clegg
From: jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood)
Subject: Going to Extremes
Summary: TNG actors
Keywords: Honor
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:19:14 GMT


One of the ensemble cast in the New Brand/Falsey TV series is played by the guy
who portrayed Wesley's Flight Team Commander in the Boothby Episode (Code of 
Honor??)


J.P.