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From: wrp@ivy.unisys.com (Bill Pringle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.country-western,rec.music.misc
Subject: Cheryl Wheeler on Radio & TV
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:54:15 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA

Here are some radio and TV appearances Cheryl will be making in February.
Check you local listings for exact time & dates in your area.
There is a plea for someone who gets E-Town at the end :^)

2/25 - Miller and Company (TNN)

	This is a live call-in interview type show on TNN.  She was on
	one of the first shows last year.  The interview wasn't all
	that great, but Cheryl sang a few songs, they showed some clips
	from her videos, and also took some calls.

2/26 - American Music Shop (TNN)

	This is the date the show will be *taped*.  I don't know how
	long before it actually airs.  The others on this show will be
	Suzy Bogguss and Kennedy-Rose.  The last time Cheryl was on
	this, Suzy was the host, and had Cheryl and (Nanci Griffith?)
	as the guest.  Suzy and Cheryl did "Aces" together, which
	Cheryl wrote and Suzy had on her last album.  Suzy has "Don't
	Wanna" on her new album, so maybe they will do another duet.  I
	don't know who the host is here, maybe Suzy again.  Again, I
	don't know who the host is, so if you see any of those names,
	that's probably the show.

2/28 - E-Town (Radio Show)

	I've never heard this show, but I hear it often deals with
	environmental topics.  This show isn't carried in my area, as
	far as I know, **** SO IF ANYONE WILL TAPE IT FOR ME I WILL BE
	VERY GRATEFUL *****  I will pay or swap - your choice.
	Send e-mail to wrp@ivy.paramax.com
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From: mbk@world.std.com (Michael B Klein)
Subject: Re: Sally Fingerette?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:38:09 GMT

I was not incredibly impressed by Sally Fingerett on the Four Bitchin'
Babes CD originally, but when the Babes came back to the Birchmere
(with Julie Gold repacing Patty Larkin), I went and I thought she was
a marvelous live performer.  I bought her two studio releases,
ENCLOSED (a new release of the album that was previously released as
Encl/sf) and UNRAVELED.  I really love the stuff on Unraveled,
especially "The Return" and "Home is Where the Heart Is."  Her voice
is very nasal and she sings with an interesting accent (words like
"dark" come out closer to "dare" with a "k" on the end).  My roommate
(who's from Cleveland, like Sally) tells me it's a midwestern thing
that I can't hope to understand.

For those of you, incidentally, who don't know Julie Gold, I heartily
recommend catching her if she's playing in your area.  She's primarily
known as a songwriter ("From a Distance" and "Heaven" for Nanci
Griffith, "Try Love" for HBO's 1991 holiday kick), but she got sucked
into the limelight when she subbed in on the early '92 Winter's Night
(and subsequent Bitchin' Babes) tour.  I think.  Anyway, she's a
wonderful pianist and stage personality.  As much as I love Nanci
Griffith, I don't think anyone can perform Julie Gold's stuff like
Julie Gold can.  She doesn't have any released recordings, but she
sells copies of her songwriting demo (which contains all three of the
aforementioned songs) at her concerts.

Michael the Folk Junkie
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From: mbk@world.std.com (Michael B Klein)
Subject: Re: Four Bitchin' Babes II
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:12:16 GMT

I don't know where this message is going yet.  I'll say up front that
I disagree with what's gone before, and there's slight flame potential
here.

entrpoop@access.digex.com (Dexter Medley) writes:
[nice stuff deleted]
>Now that I've said it semi-politely, my personal opinion is that Ms
>Gold can't carry a tune in a sack. She's awful in person. I'm a real
>fan of singer-songwriters (Lavin, Larkin, Steve Key, Wilcox, Cross,
>etc.), but it's rather disgusting to see a person attain such status based
>on one hit and no other discernible talent.

>-- Larry

Speaking as someone who has spent the last Idon'tknowhowmany years
studying music (voice and piano), and who someday hopes to be able to
earn a living from the arts, I can see the angle you're trying to come
from.  I didn't really like her "Heaven" on ON A WINTER'S NIGHT all
that much.  I went to the Bitchin' Babes concert she was in mostly for
the other three, but I came away liking Julie Gold quite a bit.  Her
quirkiness, lack of pretense, strong connection to her music, and
appreciation for her success (without taking it for granted) won me
over entirely.  She may not have the polished performance skills the
others have, but she has the willingness to get up on stage and share
her music, and she gives it completely.  That's what makes me enjoy
seeing her.  I find it "rather disgusting" to see a person discourage
anything that's not picture-perfect.  Ms Gold's "status" is not a
driving force in her life, but a by-product of doing what she loves.

Would you discredit Bob Dylan's contribution to music based on the
fact that he produces some of the nastiest sounds ever to emit from a
larynx?  What about Arlo Guthrie?

Michael

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dmandl@shearson.com (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: OUTBACK
Reply-To: dmandl@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:11:31 GMT

In article 24697@informix.com, billd@informix.com (William Daul) writes:
>I am not sure which is the "most" appropriate for this so...
>
>I just picked up a CD from the Australian section in Tower Records.  It is
>called OUTBACK - Dance The Devil Away.  WOW!!!  What a find.  It is a blend
>of international instruments and styles.   

>The Musicians:
>
>Martin Cradick            Graham Wiggins
>Sagar N'Gom               Ian Campbell
>Paddy LeMercier
>
>Do any of you know anything about this group.   It is on Hannibal/Carthage
>Records and the number is HNCD1369.
>
>Thanks for any info you can shed...now back to the CD!!!
>
>--Bill
>-- 

They've got two releases.  "Dance..." is the second; the first
was called "Baka."  The group is basically a duo, Cradick and
Wiggins.  They live in England, though Wiggins is originally
from the U.S.  The first release is primarily the two of them,
and the second features all those other people (some or all of
them now may be full-fledged members of the group; I can't
remember at the moment).  I once had Wiggins on my radio show.
We talked and he played some solo didjeridoo.

   --Dave.

P.S.: I have a 12" extended mix of one of their songs.  Not
sure if this is readily available in stores.
From: HENKLE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU (Doug Henkle, Univ of Wis Oshkosh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: "Who'd a Thunk It" by Greg Brown/discography
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:38:23 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>Subject was: "Filk (was: Re: Mangled song lyrics)"
>
>From:  rob derrick    robd@cherry.cray.com
>
>ain't gonna get me to stop singing one of my favorite proto-folk
>songs of the decade, "Who'd a Thunk It", which I think may have
>been written by somebody in the Midwest. ;^)

     I'm almost sure this song is by Greg Brown.  I don't know where he is
from.  Maybe someone else can tell you which of his albums it is on.  It
is not on "One More Goodnight Kiss", the only album of his I've seen so
far.  Coincidentally, I started a Music Archives "ftp.uwp.edu
(131.210.1.4)" discography for him last weekend, but it has not been
submitted yet as I only have a partial? / complete? list of titles so far. 
The list follows:
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Greg Brown (first draft 1-17-93 by Doug Henkle):

   Solo Albums

           * = listed in the current (Winter 1992/93) issue of Schwann

#  )  ?    * Iowa Waltz                                    Red House     01
#  )  ?    * 44 & 66                                       Red House     02
#  )  1985 * In the Dark With You                          Red House     08
#  )  ?    * Songs of Innocense and Experience             Red House     14
#  )  1988 * One More Goodnight Kiss                       Red House     23
#  )  ?    * One Big Town                                  Red House     28
#  )  1989   Songs of Greg Brown                           Red House     32
#  )  1990 * Down in There                                 Red House     35
#  )  1992 * Dream Cafe                                    Red House     47

#  )  ?      Courses in Excellence. Guitar 1                       ?      ?
               (an 8 cassette instruction program I remember seeing
                advertised somewhere, but I have no other details on it.)

   Collections

#  )  1991 * Turn of the Decade 1989-1990, Ben and         Red House     36
                Jerry's Newport Folk Festival
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From: jstodola@boi.hp.com (Jane Stodola)
Subject: Re: Misundertood Songs Lyrics (Literally)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:05:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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I heard a show on NPR that mentioned these two:

Someone heard the Beatles' song with "the girl with kaleidoscope eyes" and
thought it was "the girl with colitis goes by".

And then there is "God Bless America" that says "a light from above" and
some kid thought it was "with a light from a bulb".
From: ian@ossian.turing.ac.uk (Ian Watson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: A Source for "Oor Hamlet"
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:35:18 GMT
Organization: The Turing Institute, Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <MARTIN.93Jan26093553@lyra.cis.umassd.edu>, martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin) writes:

|> 
|> Probably the easiest to obtain in the Northwest would be Dan Maher's
|> recording on his album, "Winter Whiskey".
|> 
|> Write to Songfinder, PO Box 2184-CS, Pullman, WA  99164-2184, though
|> if there's a good folk store in Seattle, he might have distribution
|> there.
|> 
|> The main problem with his version (especially for a Shakespeare class)
|> is that he changes the line "When Laertes hears his dad's been stabbed
|> through the arras" [that meter doesn't sound quite right] to "When
|> Laertes hears his dad's killed in the bedroom of the heiress", which
|> doesn't make much sense - Gertrude's not the heiress, is she?
|> 

The meter in the original sounds just fine when its author, Adam McNaughton, sings it!  

This (Maher's) version should be avoided:  there are several rather odd and needless alterations (even if you think you have difficulty with Scots 
language).  It even distorts the story:  as you say, Polonius _was_ stabbed through the arras and not the in the bedroom of an heiress.

I think the reason for the change is laziness, ie an inability to make "arras"  rhyme with "Paris", although I can't work out how "heiress" is supposed to rhyme with "Paris".

	Ian Watson, The Turing Institute Ltd 
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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Loreena McKennitt
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:53:11 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan25.140044.8012@sfu.ca> clarkec@fraser.sfu.ca (David Gordon Clarke) writes:

>Based on a post I made several months ago, many people have
>been e-mailing me for information on international mail
>orders for Loreena McKennitt's releases.

People in the U.S. should know that Warner Bros. is releasing Loreena's
earlier albums domestically this month.  "Elemental", "Parallel
Dreams", and "To Drive The Cold Winter Away" are now listed in the most
recent electronic update I got from Noteworthy Music, joining The
Visit, which has been available for some time.  I am unsure of the
release date, but can check if need be.  Noteworthy's prices are also
excellent as usual - these albums are under $12 each.  Noteworthy's
toll-free number is 1-800-648-7972.

(Of course, Murphy's Law said I'd have to go and buy these albums when
I was in Edmonton over Christmas and pay a lto more for them :-)

Rob T
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From: bobg@pacesetter.com (Robert N. Girard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Request for "Blacksmith" arrangement
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:31:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Siemens Pacesetter, Inc.


Does anyone have, or can anyone point me to, an arrangement of any sort
of the English (?) folk ballad entitled "The Blacksmith," which has been
recorded at least twice by Steeleye Span, as well as by other folk artists?
The ideal medium would be solo acoustic guitar, but I would be happy to
see arrangements for any other instrument or ensemble.  Thanks very much
in advance.



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From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Arkansas music
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:57:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Levon Helm (of the BAND) and one of the Sonny Boy Williamsons
are from Arkansas.
Also Ronnie Hawkins (who had the proto-BAND and some of CROWBAR
and King Biscuit Boy as the HAWKs in Toronto).
-- 
Ted....
From: lanih@herald.Berkeley.EDU (J. Lani Herrmann)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: "Amazing Grace" - Origin Folklore
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:06:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: herald.berkeley.edu
Summary: Subject of PBS film

In the past year or so there was a video shown on local PBS stations which
docudramatized that story, with lebenty-leben versions of AG sung by you-name-
em. Our local station (KQED) used it as a come-on for their fundraising,  
"giving" away videocopies, books, etc. etc. etc. They're just lucky that AG 
is such a durable tune.... -- Lani

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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: "Jock o' the Side"
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:28:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.010446.25951@fuug.fi> an5445@anon.penet.fi (Bad Elf) writes:

	   If anyone could find it in their hearts to post or Email a reference
   for a recorded source of the old Scottish border ballad "Jock o' the Side",
   I would be eternally grateful.

Ewan MacColl recorded this on Blood & Roses, Vol. 1, Blackthorne ESB 79,
in 1979.  I don't know if it's still in print.  The address on the
jacket is:
	Blackthorne Records, Ltd.
	35 Stanley Avenue
	Beckenham, Kent  BR3 2PU
	England


--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
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From: bobleigh@world.std.com (Bob Leigh)
Subject: Re: "Amazing Grace" - Origin Folklore
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:59:54 GMT

rpcfod@worldbank.org (Robert Patt-Corner) writes:
>Recently I've been told a remarkable story about the way that the
>well-known hymn "Amazing Grace" came to be written.
>
>Rather than lead the witness, does anyone know of such a story, documented
>or apocryphal?

Well... the "fine print" under Amazing Grace in _Rise_Up_Singing_ says:
"[John] Newton was the captain of a slaveship who experienced a religious
 conversion en route to America, turned his ship around & returned to
 Africa freeing his human cargo."

Is that the same story?

Bob Leigh 	bobleigh@world.std.com
From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: New Roberts and Barrand CD
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:07:20 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

This is a repost.  Sorry to those who recieved the first version . . .
Mea culpa.  Send flames to alt.remarks.crass


                        A Present From the Gentleman:
                    A Pandora's Box of English Folk Songs
                         John Roberts & Tony Barrand

            Adieu, sweet lovely Nancy
            Jackie Munro
            Nine times a night
            A smuggler's song
            The three butchers
            The painful plough
            Dog and gun
            The draggletail gypsy/The Princess Royal
            The outlandish knight
            Robin Hood and the bishop of Hereford
            Our Hamlet
            Sam Hall
            The fellow that played the trombone
            Great war trilogy:
               The valley of the shadow
               The old barbed wire
               Long, long trail

             Golden Hind Music, Box 1792, Schenectady, NY  12301

            I got my copy from Andy's Front Hall, 800/759-1775
                        $13.95 CD, $10 cassette + S&H

            Review:  No review needed.  It's John and Tony.  If you've 
        ever  enjoyed  their music,  you've stopped reading by now  in 
        order  to pick up the phone and call Andy.   If  you've  never 
        heard them, try it!  If your interest in folk music leans more 
        toward the traditional, you *will* enjoy this record. 

            That  said . . . on first listen,  my intial thought  was, 
        "Why did they record *these*  songs?"   Most of them have been 
        given first class treatment major revival artists,  albeit  in 
        different  versions,   and my mind's ear kept recalling  those 
        recordings.  But by the second listening, as always,  I  ended 
        up  appreciating  the  R&B  renditions  not in  comparison  to 
        anything  else,  but for their own intrinsic  beauty.    (I've 
        never  been  fond  of *anybody's*  Sam Hall,  but I can almost 
        tolerate Tony Barrand's.)   This is in contrast to Bob Dylan's 
        recent  acoustic  album which only makes me want to listen  to 
        other musicians' renditions of the songs. 

            Final plus:  It's on CD.  Turn up the volume and enjoy the 
        harmonies without any hiss, pops, or scratches! 

            Final  minus:   Single fold insert.   There are  notes  on 
        sources but no lyrics. 

            Finally,  re Our Hamlet:   4 minutes and 15 seconds.   The 
        version is Anglicized (from Martin Carthy),  and it's "arrass" 
        rather than "heiress". 
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From: "karen mcmurray" <karen.mcmurray@canrem.com>
Subject: outback
Reply-To: "karen mcmurray" <karen.mcmurray@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:57:42 EST



DM>In article 24697#informix.com, billd@informix.com (William Daul) writes:
>I just picked up a CD from the Australian section in Tower Records.  It is
>called OUTBACK - Dance The Devil Away.  WOW!!!  What a find.

Yes!!!  Of course, none of the members is Australian, unless you want to
count the didgeridoo... (The liner notes point out that they have
musicians from 3 continents and instruments from 5.)

>Martin Cradick            Graham Wiggins
>Sagar N'Gom               Ian Campbell
>Paddy LeMercier

David Mandl writes:
DM>They've got two releases.  "Dance..." is the second; the first
DM>was called "Baka."  The group is basically a duo, Cradick and
DM>Wiggins.  They live in England, though Wiggins is originally
DM>from the U.S.  The first release is primarily the two of them,
DM>and the second features all those other people (some or all of
DM>them now may be full-fledged members of the group; I can't
DM>remember at the moment).  I once had Wiggins on my radio show.
DM>We talked and he played some solo didjeridoo.

I don't know who's considered "full-fledged" members, but when I saw
them last July at the Hillside Festival in Guelph, Ontario (great
festival, BTW), all of the above except Paddy LeMercier were there.
They were pretty much the hit of the festival as far as I was
concerned -- great music and very friendly.

Although I'm still green with envy over the woman in charge of billeting
who cheerfully announced that she had Outback *and* Stephen Fearing
staying with her...

-karen

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From: atay@warp.UWaterloo.ca (Tay-man)
Subject: Re: Much's City Limits (Was - Re: mtv & kennedy)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:04:31 GMT

Henry Lee writes
> 
> HL: The only thing "close" to a completely alternative set is on
> HL: "City Limits" which airs Fridays (930pm to 11pm PST), then immediately
> HL: followed by "Indy Limits" (independent) for 30 minutes.

Just be thankful that you get to see it at 9:30pm.  In Toronto, it comes on  
from 12:30am to 2:00, at which point I either have something better to do or  
I'm asleep.

--Andy Tay
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From: 002519m@axe.acadiau.ca (KRISTIAN AARON MACCALL)
Subject: Re: Much's City Limits (Was - Re: mtv & kennedy)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:37:05 GMT

In article <C1FpJK.97y@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> atay@warp.UWaterloo.ca (Tay-man) writes:
>From: atay@warp.UWaterloo.ca (Tay-man)
>Subject: Re: Much's City Limits (Was - Re: mtv & kennedy)
>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:04:31 GMT

>Henry Lee writes
>> 
>> HL: The only thing "close" to a completely alternative set is on
>> HL: "City Limits" which airs Fridays (930pm to 11pm PST), then immediately
>> HL: followed by "Indy Limits" (independent) for 30 minutes.

>Just be thankful that you get to see it at 9:30pm.  In Toronto, it comes on  
>from 12:30am to 2:00, at which point I either have something better to do or  
>I'm asleep.

>--Andy Tay

It's even worse out east!  Here (Nova Scotia), it comes on at 1:30 am, and 
last week I fell asleep during _Detachable Penis_ by King Missile.  
Fortunately, I did tape it...

Oh, and I met Natalie Richard last summer - she looks much better on TV...
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