From: rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Randy M. Rohrer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State update <more bad news>
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:59:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Sep1.202745.9944@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.064049.19496@icf.hrb.com> mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
>> Ricky Sayles and Bobby Engram have been suspened from the team. Both players
>> were running with the second team offense. If anybody wants the exact details
>> E-mail me. I don't want to post them. -- 
>

	I believe that some of the things you mentioned were not
quite correct (at least as I understand it).

>I have no such reservations.  The 2 players were arrested for
>looting their classmates dormitories.

	downtown apartment (just as bad if not worse)

	They are suspended indefinitely pending legal outcome.
	Read "they are gone"
>
>My criticism is that their are 2 players who were charged with
>obstructing justice, but were allowed to keep practicing with
>the team.  

	This was a minor incident during the summer
arts festival in State College, PA. A friend who
lives in State College has told me that this incident
was "blown" way out of proportion. It never should have been
reported and wouldn't have been if it was someone other than
Joe's players. Not an excuse, just not a big deal.

>Then one player was arrested for selling cocaine,
>but he's allowed to keep practicing with the team; now this case.
>

	As I understand it, an incoming freshman recruit was
arrested for cocaine distribution BEFORE he reported to PSU.
Consequently, he did not enroll and is NOT practicing with the 
team. I believe that his long-term football status is pending the 
outcome of the legal proceedings (innocent until proven guilty).
But if guilty, you can be assured that he will not be at PSU.


>As long as Joe Paterno does nothing, there is no message.
>Mr. Paterno should send a message that is loud and clear,
>and then this kind of hooliganism will stop.  

	I believe that Joe Paterno continues to send a strong
consistent message that such things will not be tolerated.
I do not see anything that suggests otherwise. In every case,
the offending player has been disciplined appropriately.
Paterno will not put up with crap!!!

> I think it is a
>carryover from the QB who was constantly being hauled in
>on drunken charges, but little was done by the athletic department.
>

	Cheap shot. 
At first, I too was a little uneasy about
their approach to solving this problem. But I think that
it was the right decision in the long run. Through
cooperative efforts with the univeristy, this former QB 
apparently overcame his problems and made postive contributions 
to himself and society. I commend the QB and PSU for acknowledging
the problem and attacking it rather than "letting him hang in the wind"!

>The image of Penn State football is slipping.

	You certainly have a right to this opinion
(news from the last couple weeks has certainly not been good).
However, I will put PSU and Paterno up against anybody
for integrity and high-standards.  Joe Paterno is one of
the few people that I still believe in. 

Randy Rohrer
PSU '83 (and obviously biased)


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