HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Unattached Ph.D.'s (was:Re: Education and the Single World
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:26:07 -0700
Reply-To: wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:

>Mind you, this is the first woman I've met since I've been on this
>miserable island that was politically, socially, and philosophically
>aware and not interested in Oog's big pick up truck.  Oh well, so they
>only come along once every two years.  No big deal.  I can wait.

Interesting, every couple years is the same frequency I've noticed 
out here.  Do you suppose there's some conclusion to be drawn from
this data? 

(with-smiley-mode
  (setf *blathering-proposal-mode* t)
"Hypothesis:  Intelligent, interesting, available MOTAS appear in one's
life/geographic area with a mean interarrival time of 2 years.

Proposed Research Protocol:  The effects of relatively high balking 
(refusing to join the queue) and reneging (joining the queue then leaving 
before service) rates, and a mean service time substantially less than
the hypothesized mean interarrival time, suggest that traditional
queuing theory will be inadequate for application to this domain.
We therefore propose the use of less-qualified MOTAS as laboratory
subjects.  Data from these experiments will be used to establish
the foundation for a new theoretical model of domain behavior.  This
model will then be tested against the sparse data available for
the population of interest.  We note that behavior in this domain may
not be gender-independent, and therefore will actively seek 
collaboration with qualified female researchers.

Qualifications of Principal Investigators:  Well, we've obviously got lots 
of time available! " 
)

Know anybody at the National Science Foundation ?  :-)

-- 
-- Ray
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:52:35 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

   >|> Better than dating a sculpture...

You don't want to be accused of statuary rape.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
From: kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:32:52 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <7297@news.duke.edu>, diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
> In article <lh1stdINN3gt@news.bbn.com> kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman) writes:
> >
|>>During this introduction, do you state clearly that you prefer to be
|>>addressed as Elizabeth or Beth, or whatever you wished to be addressed as
|>>(since there are so many nicknames/variations on the name Elizabeth and 
|>>Robert too)?
|> 
|> Not as such... but since I've just *introduced* myself as Elizabeth,
|> it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that I want to be
|> *called* Elizabeth.  If I wanted to be called Liz, I'd say, "Hi, I'm
|> Liz Abrams."  Or "Hi, I'm Elizabeth Abrams.  Please call me Liz."

Or how about; "Hi, I'm Elizabeth Abrams.  Please call me Elizabeth."
Direct and clear.  This way you can save all your "hostilities" for someone
who truely derserves them.

|> If someone is "just trying to be friendly", why not ask me if I
|> like to have my name shortened, and what I like to have it shortened
|> to?

But you're forgetting, you are the one with the preference.  IMO, stating
the rules in the beginning is the best and fairest way to proceed.

|> I'm a lot more impressed by friendliness when it shows some
|> consideration.  Calling me "Liz" without asking sounds like phony
|> familiarity... anyone unfamiliar enough with me to call me "Liz"
|> isn't familiar enough with me to shorten my name in the first place.

Make sure they understand this right from the introduction.

Karen
kg@bbn.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:34:02 GMT

In article <15602@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM
(John Fereira) writes:

>Interesting.  Women used to burn their brassieres.  Men didn't complain.  
>I wonder what'll happen if women start burning their highheeled shoes.

Burning leather smells even worse than burning rubber.

To put some seriousness into this posting, I read somewhere that women
didn't actually burn their bras, but rather that phrase was invented
and promulgated by the news media.  ("Burning their bras" sounds a lot
snappier than "throwing their lingerie in the trash".)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:35:27 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <lh1tpgINN3pr@news.bbn.com> kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman) writes:
|In article <thurlow.722463637@convex.convex.com>, thurlow@convex.com
|(Robert Thurlow) writes:
|> In <7260@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
|> 
||>>... but this often backfires when someone decides
||>>to call me Liz in attempt to sound friendly (and earns, instead, my
||>>hostility).
||> 
||> Uh huh.  The quickest way for a salesman to earn my hostility is to
||> call me Bob rather than asking how I prefer to be addressed.
|
|Why don't you just be honest and state your preference to EVERYONE when
|you meet them?  Afterall, you're the one with the preference.
 
But that's what I do, Babe.

ducking...

Elizabeth thinks *she's* got it bad.  How would you like to be named
"John" when in this decade "shitter" is the more appropriate term.
-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Diane
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12:48:46 CST

In article <1992Nov23.180428.9394@b8.b8.ingr.com>
larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
 
>My birth certificate (yes I can
>prove I was not found under a rock) has Larry on it (my middle name is top
>seceret info, but is similarly short) and people have refused to believe that
>I'm not turely a Lawerence.
                  ^^^^^^^^^
 
Thank goodness! It's a b*tch to spell, isn't it? :-) (oh god, my 1st smiley..)
Let's see... Larry Joe?..Larry Frank?...Larry Bob?
 
>Larry (just Larry) Billings
 
Diane
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory,talk.religion.misc
From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Prove That Kids are Precious Gifts From God. (Was: Re: ra-ising c-hildren)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:16:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.232007.1477@news.Hawaii.Edu> sakata@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Henry Sakata) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.063614.15595@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>[original post and pre-followups omitted]
>>
>>     I am not saying that there is or is not a God, or gifts from God.
>>
>
>Dear Mr. Rohwer:
>
>[....]
>
>While the birthing of children can be explained by modern science
>and medicine, the beauty and the wonder of the event in itself is
>a miracle.  And if people wish to attribute the existence of such
>beauty in life to God, then so let it be, for there is none more
>deserving.

Don't get me wrong -- I like beauty and wonder as much as the next
person.  And if I ever have kids, I certainly hope to experience the
beauty and wonder you refer to.

On the other hand, being a droll, tiresome, scientific-rationalist-
reductionist type, I will undoubtedly pause after the proceedings to
do a typical evolutionist's gedanken experiment:

	- assume two evolving strands of humans;

	- and that one strand has more pronounced feelings of beauty and
	  wonder over childbirth than the other;

	- and that this difference has even the flimsiest genetic basis;

	- all other things being equal, which strand will predominate?

If there is a God, I would be surprised if he/she/it would arrange for a
miracle each time, when other approaches would probably work just as well.
---
Michael Turner
miket@tcs.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cfg@cray.com (Cindy Glass)
Subject: Re: How to explain?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:44:58 CST

In article <1992Nov14.235511.2900@csi.uottawa.ca>  misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) asks:

>   When I cross the Canada-U.S. border, and a U.S. immigration official
>asks me the purpose of my visit, how can I explain that I'm going to a
>Boink in a manner that will minimize the number of followup questions?
>
>misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
>Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.

Easy one Mark - Reason is personal (rather than business) and you
will be visiting friends and where it is you intend to go.  They won't
ask more than that.

  Cindy


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:11:34 GMT

In article <92321.205138U53644@uicvm.uic.edu> U53644@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>
>Well, that was simple enough. Just meet them at home, where they feel
>comfortable.

I tried that.  They kept calling the police....
-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat
From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: High heels (was Re: What is attractive to women?)
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:54:36 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer) writes:
: 
:    I like to see
:    women all dressed up, WITH high heels.... IT'S JUST A PEFERENCE!!!
:    As far as them being uncomfortable, I guess that depends on the woman
:    wearing them. I dated a girl who would wear heels as opposed to flats
:    because she said they were more comfortable!
: 
: Well, what about if the woman were suffering permanent foot damage from
: wearing high heels?  Would you still want her to wear them?  This is not
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Of course not! I have been called all kiinds of things for stating my
"silly views", but since when does that make me a bastard?

-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
Port Jefferson Station, NY
(516) 331-9001
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: High heels (was Re: What is attractive to women?)
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:11:40 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1eiplqINNkcd@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>
>As for myself, I simply find most dress shoes -- even low-heeled pumps --
>far too painful to wear.  Does *anybody* really have feet shaped like
>that?

How about cowboy-style boots, though?  They're not flats, but I've
never found them painful the way that I find normal spikey-heel 
dress shoes painful.  And they're FUN.  (I like being tall, and I
like being able to make determined clomping sounds in the halls
of my building.)  

				--Diamond

diamond@acpub.duke.edu |   The soul may choose its own society and shut
Elizabeth S. Abrams    |   the door, but the body gets thrown into bed
		       |   with the damnedest people.  --Peter Beagle
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:54:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.123018.18911@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markr@mcil.comm.mot.com writes:
>Definitely, I've been following the conventional wisdom of 'the Net'
>which says that to increase my sex drive, I just gotta keep at it.
>Well, after spending many hours each day for the past week at 'it',
>the advice seems to be working very well. (We've been at it about
>3-4 times a day since last Saturday night)

when do you eat and sleep?

>Don't ask me how it feels to be sore all the time, everywhere.
>
>Mark (who started this whole sex drive conversation after being
>      celibate for a number of years and who has had more sex in
>      the last week than in all the previous 28 years)

please don't tell me you're complaining?

-bacon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:12:18 GMT

In article <By4r3o.I1F@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com
(Herb Huston) writes:
>In article <7222@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>>In article <BxzJot.L4G@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>>Are you still using stone tools in your cave?  There's now software for
>>>personal computers that not only maintains a check register but also will
>>>dial up a service in Columbus, Ohio, and transmit information on about all
>>>the checks you've just written.  The service then prints up the checks, 
>>>stuffs them into metered envelopes, mails them off, and places a draft on
>>>your checking account.  You can have the service schedule the payments for
>>>future dates.
>>
>>Sounds nifty.  However, I'm operating at a ridiculously low income level,
>>and the service you describe would probably cost more than I have in my
>>checking account in the first place.
>
>It's less than $10/month for the first 20 transactions.  It's more expensive
>than mailing checks yourself, but then you no longer have to suffer through
>the drudgery of writing checks, sealing and stamping envelopes, and dropping
>same into a mailbox.

Figure out the hourly wage you'd be paying yourself to write your own
checks (and remember, this is after-tax money).  Even at my income
level, it's not worth it.  (Trygve, how about you?)

>  Being able to program the payments for specific times
>in the future is nice if you have to travel a lot.

It's really tough to hand a bunch of envelopes with dates pencilled in
to someone else and ask for them to be mailed on the specified dates.
Or perhaps you don't have any trustworthy friends or relatives?

(Me, I just mail the checks early.  In fact, I prepay a lot of stuff
several months in advance; given today's interest rates, the interest
I lose on paying two months of telephone bills at a time is less than
the cost of the extra stamp.)

According to the people in misc.consumers, there are some problems
with that service.  I wouldn't want to give some random company access
to my bank account (my bank makes quite enough errors on its own, and
at least I can fight with them in person to get stuff corrected).

>  However, I began
>throwing away the check registers that the bank sends with a new supply of
>checks, and soon I hope not to have to order the checks, either.

So if somebody wants you to pay by check, instead of handing them one
on the spot, you'll claim that some company in Ohio is going to mail
them one realsoonnow.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
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Subject: Re: raising children
From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:30:37 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) writes:
>
>I see a problem with same-sex parents, it's that the child(ren) will
>-probably- (see, I'm NOT saying WILL) miss out ona wide range of
>emotional responses and thought patterns.. They'll either see all-male,
>or all-female type behaivor. 

   I see a problem with families with mixed-sex parents. The children
will have less of an opportunity to see female-female and male-male
behaviour. Of course, the family way well have friends and other 
relatives who fall into this category.

   In fact, I see another problem with families with only 2 parents.
The children once again may have less of an opportunity to behaviour
that does not conform to the monogamous default.

Joe.

  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats! (miaow!)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Re: Top 9 things...
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:50:49 GMT


  Another one, which really pissed me off when he said this to me...
 
   "Believe it or not, I'm not like most other guys...I think sex should
 go with love..."
   This, after the deed had already been done without the love.
   Hmph.
                                       --a
                                         c


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:55:37 GMT

In article <8cx16zg@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.192506.24522@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>|> In article <31517@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>|> >
>|> >I'd like to ask why people share *hugs* and *kisses* on the net.  What
>|> >is the value of them?  Would you also hug and kiss a stranger in real
>|> >life?
>
>  I think people don't *HUG* each other nearly enough.  We all NEED to be
>touched.  That's what's wrong with the U.S.  We're too selfish to touch other
>people and acknowledge that we DO need other people's attention and affection.
>So, we use the only 'acceptable' way to need someone---when you're in love.
>
>-- 
> *HUGS*, a @>---'--,----, and a :&) to whoever needs them.

I feel a need to go back to the Doc's and get a BIG refill of Prozac.
Coming to a theater near you.
 
================================================================================
 Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes 
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 12:09:31 GMT

In article <74522@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>>Seriously, though, I fid that
>>sex drive is substantially increased by regular weightlifting, though it
>>is actually somewhat decreased by extended bicycling.  This suggests to me
>>that high-intensity exercise that doesn't cut off the circulation to your
>>genitalia for extended periods of time is probably ideal.
>
>I understand that extensive aerobic exercise in general (not just the 
>circulation-limiting kind) decreases sex drive.

True, true--at least I've read studies that have shown that extensive
aerobic exercise reduces testosterone levels.  

Trygve    (Though, I have to admit that the only aerobic exercise I've
           engaged in for more than a few hours besides bicycling is sex
           and that didn't seem to reduce my overall sex drive....)
From: Find out! <ljh655@cscgpo.anu.edu.au>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: finding a soulmate
Date: 22 Nov 1992 00:45:43 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Sun, 22 Nov 92 19:45:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.160128.13449@panix.com> Nancy Weiner,
nancyw@panix.com writes:
>   tired of meeting conventional guys who clam up all the time..so, is
being
>able to tell anything to your s.o something other people look for?
Sounds like you have some religious background. It really causes a lot of
troubles these days, because there are not many suitable people around...
And if one is a Christian, the other people can't listen, because they
don't understand. At leats I know it's not easier for girls. :-)
Lu
From: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How to explain?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:02:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: jd-next.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <thurlow.722370264@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com  
(Robert Thurlow) writes:
$ 
$ There are three classes of people I _never_ joke with: income tax 
$ agents, airport security personnel, and people at border crossings.  
$ These people are lifeforms that are specially bred to remove all traces  
$ of a sense of humor.
$ 
Yeah, that's for sure. Like the MOD (Ministry of Defense) people in Holy  
Loch, Scotland we had to pass through every time we went out on the town  
from the submarine we were on. They did NOT appreciate the fact that in  
the hustle to get packed for the trip over there, the only belt buckle  
(civilian-style) that I had so thoughtfully included was a big pot leaf  
buckle. Can we say strip search every single time I went through their  
gate? Got to the point where I just marched into their shack without  
waiting for them to tell me to, big smile on my face, finger pointing at  
the "offending" article.

Bet they still wonder just where I WAS hiding the drugs they KNEW I HAD  
to be carrying. And it did not help at all when I explained to them that  
there was no way at all I would consider doing that sort of thing there-  
they just had too severe of a penalty for things like that. Made it  
worse, if anything.
--
************************************************************************
 the Lost Cause                       jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
(hardwaire guy extraordinaire)       MACTech,NeXTtech; NeXTmail accepted
                      "Everything is relative."
************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:23:51 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov22.151315.4882@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:

>Just last night the guy at the pizza place said something
>about "your castle"!  I stared at him for a good 30 seconds
>before realizing what he was talking about.  Grrr!

People really don't stop to think that a really funny joke they've
just thought of based on someone's name or physical attributes has
probably been heard by the person in question a thousand times
already, and is unlikely to be considered funny.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
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