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Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 14:40:06 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: [Repost]Part(6):Major Problems and Limitations in S&TD in Thailand 




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            Part(6): Lack of R&D and Innovation Activities


    Real R&D and innovation activities in producing firm are very
limited at present due to the following reasons:


    * Such activities are not necessary for joint-venture firms because
they are oerformed in parent companies overseas.  Attempts to set up R&D
facilities in Thailand will face several difficulties including the lack
of infrastructural support and qualified personel.


    * Large Thai firms also face similar difficulties in the setting up
of R&D facilities.  Typical large Thai firms import packaged
technologies which eliminate the need for R&D.  Some large Thai firm,
however, have started to set up separate R&D units.


    * R&D investment is, by its very nature, high risk and the return on
inverstment, if any, is very long-term.  Most Thai firms seek short-term
profits and, therefore, are not invested in R&D.


    * Most Thai firms which are, by international standards, small to
medium scale cannot afford to invest or maintain R&D facilities as they
are extremely expensive.  The maintaince of highly qualified R&D
personel, if they can be recuited at all, will also ber very expensive. 
The government has not yet taken measures to effectively promote R&D
activities in producing firms.


=============================================================================

Hang on tight! for Part(7) on Management Attitude......in this net.



Posted by
Schitt  Laowattana



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From: arunsaku@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Peerasak Arunsakul)
Subject: Re: Khunying Supatra on Internet - Quotation issues
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:21:10 GMT

Absolutely!  When a lot of referred articles have to be included, it would
be nice to sort in only the main sentence(s) of each article.  IMO, readers
would not easily be confused by the omission of some contexts and if they
do (in case they haven't followed from the start), they can still search 
back to those referred article(s) either by looking at the subject or
at the reference header.
-- 
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Peerasak Arunsakul         |         University Of Colorado at Boulder 
arunsaku@ucsu.colorado.edu |signaturesignaturesignaturesignaturesignaturesigna 
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From: fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: Hiring Farang in Thailand.
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion-NASA Lewis
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:38:41 GMT

In article <Bv434D.Muu@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> 
sdurong@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (sripen durongdej) writes:
>...............>X
>..................................  My friend's salary is about five to six
>thousands Baht while his wife earns about 18,000 Baht.  She can't speak Thai
>so she lectures in English.

I think that's the major reason why she got paid more; she's a native
speaker. It's like buying two votes with only one bill. I am no big fan
of farang getting special treatment in Thailand either but I must admit
that the majority of farang going to live in Thailand are good people
who genuinely love Thailand for various reasons. They sacrifice their
comfort in their respective first-world countries to live in our
country; the least we could do is to give them more. It may be the
only way  to attract good farangs to teach us.
(The case of your friend's wife is quite an exception though.)

I could cite many farangs who live and work in Thailand on a par
with the Thai workers, like those in the peace corps and other non-profit
,non-governmental agencies. (and those in monkhood :-)

Besides the immediate effect of English, we Thais could learn alot from
farangs that we couldn't learn from our fellow countrymen with equal
or better qualification. We  could learn how do they work/think/manage
so that we could begin to understand how did they manage their countries
so that they become what they  had become -- the goal that we have always
wanted to emulate. I'm no big fan of the farang's goal either but I wrote
this article on behalf of those who are.

I don't buy your theory that farangs go to work in Thailand because
they can't find jobs in their countries. I do agree that some of them
are just seeking fun and excitement in a different cultural setting.
But that is another aspect of farangs that we should contemplate:
they love and dare to explore! A lone female farang wouldn't deny
a chance to travel around the globe by herself; but a Thai male wouldn't
dare travel to a nearby province by himself! This explorative mind
is, IMO, equally applicable in the scientific and technological endeavor.

IMO, farangs have the best and the worst of human's quality within them.
It's our duty to think which side of them that we want to emulate.
Many times, it requires the farangs to tell us so!

-Tawit

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Farang is good for you, provided that it's not rotten.
Farang the Fruit, Farang the Man, I am confused often.
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From: sdurong@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (sripen durongdej)
Subject: How to dictate third world
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:02:47 GMT

There was a seminar two years ago in my school, one of the several questions
in one of the topics was
"How can we dictate the third world?"  DICTATE from the Oxford American
Dictionary means to order with the force of authority.  I was stunned to 
learn what attitude of the people in this part of world was toward the third
world countries.  Every student in this session had been in the third world 
before.   Some of them stayed there for 2, 5, 6 months while some stayed longer such as one or two years.             
One of my friends was called an expert in third world country because she
used to work in some particular country for 2 years.  I asked her why the peoplein this part of world like to call themselves as expert in such as Thailand or  Indonesia or Kenya while you were there only short time.  You can't speak the
language.  You don't understand the culture or their way of life or thinking.
Whatever you saw you always had cultural shocks. 
    One of my Thai friends has been 
working in the field with Thai farmers.  She speaks Thai because she is Thai
and she has no cultural shock even she works in the different regions.  I told
her that so you can call yourself as an expert.  She said no, sometimes she 
also could not understand the people because she was not from that community.
I told this story to my farang friend who was called expert in third world.  
Finally she used the word "interest" instead of "expert".
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Hiring Farang Again
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:22:40 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <29SEP199213431025@sscvx1.ssc.gov>, godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:

	[lots of stuff deleted]

> Not surprisingly,
> when we met in the forecourt of the Tax Office in Chiang Mai he was applying
> for his exit visa to leave Thailand for good, having just paid the necessary
> bribe to the tax lady (who I am happy to recount is now in prison after a
> lifetime of demanding bribes from farang).


Gee, it's good to read about someone like that getting 
nailed and jailed. Let's hear more stories like that!
(The rest of the anecdote was unbearably sad and depressing! 
Generous impulses penalized and an evidently well-meaning 
man turned sour and bitter: how painful!)



               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu

     "Davon mann nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss er schweigen."
					-- Wittgenstein
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Khunying Supatra on Internet
Date: 27 Sep 92 08:41:03 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <26SEP199214100716@sscvx1.ssc.gov>, godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
> In article <1992Sep26.180635.2121@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chit writes...
>>In article <9209240020.AA05474@ipied.tu.ac.th> 
>>htk@munnari.oz.AU (Hugh Thaweesak Koanantakool) writes:
>>> 

[three screenfuls deleted]

Dear Lord, I wish people wouldn't lazily reproduce layer 
after layer of embedded previous quotations, filling screen 
after screen before one gets to read whatever it is they 
have added!

               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu

     "Davon mann nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss er schweigen."
					-- Wittgenstein
From: ws2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Wisanu Subsompon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Fwd:Kathina(2)
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:48:37 GMT
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	The founder of the Phra Dhammakaya temple, the World Dhammakaya Centre
is a nun, Kuhn Yay Acharn- the foremost disciple of the late Venerable Abbot
of Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen (Phra Monkolthepmuni).  She is renowned as
the examplar of spiritual practice to all who pursue perfection and
peace of mind.
	Kuhn Yay is now eighty-four years of age, but unhindered in her quest 
for the upper limits of spiritual perfection in bringing peace to the world, 
this year she has undertaken to preside over the greatest ceremony for
generosity in the Buddhist calender; Kathina Day.  Kathina is famous as
the only chance sduring the year to offer triple ropes and funds to the
community of monks pure 
from the meditation of three-months rainy season retreat.
	All gentlefolk with the wish to perfect themselves will recognize that
an opportunity such as Kathina Day 1992 is very rare and not to be passed up 
without some personal involvement.  By making donations, whether large
or small,according to your means, not only will you secure purity of
mind through the 
perfection generosity together with the greatest living examplar of virtue,
From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Sept 30: Anand pushes for education
Date: 1 Oct 1992 12:57:16 +1000
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

Anand wants new govt to invest in education
OUTGOING Prime Minister Anand Panyarachun plans to lunch or dine with former 
members of his Cabinet every two or three months.
 
After the last Cabinet meeting yesterday, Mr Anand announced that he and the 
outgoing members of his Cabinet will have private luncheons or dinners every two 
or three months.
 
"The Cabinet was very cheerful today. We ate together happily," the outgoing 
premier said.
 
Mr Anand said he will work during his last day in office today. His caretaker 
government will be finished once the Chuan Government makes an official 
declaration to take office today.
 
The outgoing premier said he and members of the Press have always had a mutual 
understanding and goodwill towards each other, even though at times he may have 
argued with reporters over various issues.
 
Members of the Press attached to Government House yesterday presented Mr Anand a 
basket of fruits.
 
"RWVV	I5%IQ]%9!Y59e9]I%9M9%QM	9!AAe1%1	5I)Anand said.
 
Meanwhile, Mr Anand said the new government should study reports provided by the 
PollWatch Commission on the recent general election which turned out to be "what 
we all anticipated."
 
The September 13 general election opened a new era of democratic rule with 99 
new faces elected to the House of Representatives, most of whom are aged below 
40, he said, adding that those aged over 60 should consider quitting the 
political arena.
 
Asked what the new government should do first after taking office, Mr Anand 
suggested that it work on education matters and issues.
 
He said the Government should not only emphasise producing more engineers and 
doctors but also fighting poverty in the countryside.
 
There has not been very much investment in the sector of education in Thailand, 
he commented.
 
Government spokesman Montri Chenvidyakarn said Mr Anand was very proud of the 
PollWatch Commission's role in the recent election.
 
"Mr Anand looks on the bright side of things and talks with reason. He does not 
use bad language or sarcasm. He does not look down upon anybody. Even if 
somebody criticises him very badly, he never strikes back," Mr Montri said.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: A proposal
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: soc.culture.thai
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:33:41 GMT


To follow up what Acharn Samart had mentioned at the end of his last
article,  I would like to propose that we have an opened discussion about
the event in 1973 and 1976 on both aniversarial days.  I believe many
younger generations like me will learn a lot from our older counterpart.

Thian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: organic farm
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: soc.culture.thai
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:52:02 GMT


Could anyone help confirm this rumor to me?

Two weeks ago, an American friend of mine happened to read a Sunday issue
of Bangkok Post.  He was fasinated with a policy of Palang Dhama Party. 
According to what he told me, the PDP plan to revitalize "toong Kula Rong
Hai" and turn it into an environmentally sound an  sustainable
agricultural area.  If this is true, maybe there's still some hope for our
country.  

I don't think we should let these big chemical companies help us destroy
our precious soil.  It's not too late to be a DDT free country.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: Coalition Government
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:08:31 GMT

cslac2209@bestsd.sdsu.edu (UNALOME TECHAMUANVIVIT) writes:

>.............................
>Personally, I didn't like the idea of inculding SAP in the Coalition Gov.
>since there are quite a lot of smelly poloititcians in that party.  Yet,
>the unstability of the Coalition Gov. with few seats over the Opposition
>is something that one shouldn't ignore.  Hence, adding SAP with that
>condition is quite an acceptable idea to me after all. 

>Unalome

Yes, I agree, Khun Unalome. In fact one political wisdom  "there are
no real friends and permanent enemies in politics" could well apply
here. Besides, I don't like to see the accusation of "unsually rich", 
the phrase, coined by the coup members to be used to justify any political 
action at this time when many of us want it to mark a new era of Thai
politics. We need an established moral authority, e.g. the court,
to rule first. I still have a firm belief that such accusation is an
ex pos facto on the military part.
From: yongyuth@munnari.oz.AU (Yongyuth Pahirah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: MP denies links to drug cartel
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:03:16 GMT
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au


 
MP denies links to drug cartel
 
The Nation Sept 27 Sunday edition 
 
CHAT Pattana MP for Phetchaburi Yuth Angkinand yesterday denied he was
involved in the production and trafficking of drugs near the Thai-Burmese
border in the central province.
 
  Yuth admitted, however, he had been asked by local border patrol police to
  help with the efforts to trace a number of patrolmen who had been missing
  since a routine mission last month went astray. Only four of the nine-man
  team have been found.
 
  ``Why should I be involved in the drugs trade when I have always been a
  wealthy man,'' he said.
 
  The Phetchaburi MP, who is widely recognized as an influential person in the
  province, said he had always cooperated with the authorities in security
  affairs, including trying to persuade a group of Communist guerrillas based
  in Phetchaburi to give up their armed struggle.
 
  Yuth said he believed the unidentified armed men who attacked the patrolmen
  belonged to remnants of the Communist Party of Thailand still active in
  Phetchaburi.
 
  ``I believe the attack on the border patrol police was the result of a
  misunderstanding. Everything will be alright soon,'' he said without
  explanation.
 
  The border patrol police are preparing for a major offensive against the
  unidentified group who are thought to be guarding what is believed to be one
  of the biggest heroin and marijuana production areas in Thailand.
 
  At least three drugs-producting plants are thought to be located in an area
  of about 5,000 rai in Phetchaburi's Kang Krajan subdistrict.
 
  The guerrillas are believed to be heavily armed and their bases
  well-fortified, according to police officers.
 
  Sources at the Border Patrol Police Bureau say influential politicians in
  Phetchaburi and Prachuap Khiri Khan are involved in the production and
  trafficking of drugs originating from the Thai-Burmese border in
  Phetchaburi. However they would not reveal their names.
 
 
 
 
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: pxu8785@usl.edu (Uthayopas Putchong)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for the new government
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 05:29:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.112503.1@woods.ulowell.edu> horburapm@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>> 
>>      1) What are the problems of the country that you want the new
>>         goverment to tackle? 
>
>The first big problem is communication. I don't know how we can solve
>traffic jam. I want Thailand have more reserches and educations. I
>I think we can do that if we help each other.

I don't think that the first big problem is the traffic jam. This is 
only effect the people who live in Bangkok. For me, I would like to see
the problem of income distribution solved first. Every government talk
about the economic boom but this result go to the rich and medium class
people. The rich people even richer from this economic progress. What 
about the poor people out in the rural area? What hope for them?
>
>>      2) If you were in the cabinet, what would you do with those problems? 
>
>I will ask all thai people, "Do you want our country better?"
>If yes, I want to get more money. How can I do that? May be increasing
>tax but all money should be notified clearly. (I don't know how to
>arrange it.)
>
If you can even minimize the corruption and increase the efficiency in
using the budget, you get much more out of the same money without TAX
increase. Remember the skyway train, it they do it 8-9 year before the
cost is much cheaper for this project.

>>      3) Any suggestion, any policy, anything you would like to say to 
>>         the new prime minister, Khun Chuan Leekpai, if you have a chance
>>         to talk to him. 
>
>I beleive in Democrats. They can do the things that they told to thai
>people. Make better Democracy....
>

I believe in Democracy not democrats. But let them proof themselves.
I think that the biggest problem is the politic in thailand.If Khun Chuan
can build a strong basis for democracy in thailand. I will be glad.
But I know that it take time, may longer than the age of this government.
I hope that I can see it someday before I die.

Sorry for poor  english.....
From: hsla@tamsun.tamu.edu (Hoseong La                   )
Subject: election news
Organization: tamu
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:58:06 GMT

Hello folks out there, particularly those back at home;
I will be really grateful if someone could post any update of the bloody
election news (of course, not american election, for which I would not bother
to post here via uncanny-user-hateful unix system.).
Thanks in advance!

-hs

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jysuh@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Suh Jung Yul)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: ROH's visit to CHINA
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:26:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep30.142622.29361
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University



>>
>>
>>ROH ARRIVED IN CHINA FOR HISTORIC VISIT
>> 
>>BEIJING -- South Korean President Roh Tae Woo began a historic visit
>>yesterday in Beijing, saying that it would help lay the groundwork for
>>ending Cold War tensions with North Korea.
>> 
>>He was greeted at the airport by Chinese Trade Minister Li Lanqing,
>>Vice-Foreign Minister Xu Dunxin and several dozen Soth Koreans.
>> 

>Shouldn't he be greeted by the leader of China?
>Does Chinese Trade Minister equal to the president of South Korea?

>Suspicious,
>Kyung-Goo Doh

It shows how Chinese views Korea.
One other barbaric tribe to be appeased, while she is 
gobbling up Tibet and Inner Mongolia.
Some might say this characterization is rather harsh.
But I think that I am quite close to the answer, judging
from the way Chinese in soc.culture.china flaunt their
imperial ambitions occasionally.

Against Expansionism, 

Jung Suh  

P.S. : Imperialsts are not necessarily American nor Europian nor
       Japanese.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Subject: Re: Computer in Korea
Organization: Monash University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:22:31 GMT

In article <28SEP199202354026@zeus.tamu.edu> b0k2481@zeus.tamu.edu (KIM, BYUNGSEON) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.065156.15971@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won) writes...
>>In article <80602@ut-emx.uucp> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
>>>From: claypool@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok H. Lee) writes:
>>>
>>>	>There are almost no computers in Korea.  Everyone uses an abacus.
>>[jokes about Korean computing scene...of course made up totally]
>>>	>I hope this was informative. :) :) :) :) :)
>
>>This is quite incredible. Some people just don't get to it.
>>I support the original poster. He was quite funny. The second poster has no idea
>>and has no sense of humour...What do you think those smilies above meant???
>> 
>>Jae
>
>    It is really strange.  The original poster was joking, and the following
>    posters were joking again pretending to believe the original poster.
>    Actually, that made the original poster confess it had been a joke.
>
>    What kind of naive people you are.  I might be another dumb
>    confessing all of these.
>
>B. Sean Kim.......................
>

All right I lose.

Jae

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