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From: jlarke@css.itd.umich.edu (Jason Larke)
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:22:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.174427.22100@berlioz.nsc.com> ivan@berlioz.nsc.com (Ivan Wemple) writes:
>
>If I'm correct, the last Terry Brown - produced Rush album
>was "Signals".  It makes sense to me that Brown simply said,
>"this album sucks", and threw in the towel.
>There hasn't been a good Rush album since.  It's sad, but
>true (as Rush used to be the greatest rock band in the world)...
>
>Geddy, Neil, and Alex are has-beens.  And yes, I've listened
>to their recent frivolous wank and drivel thoroughly.
>It just don't cut it!

Oh come on, Ivan. Haven't you had enough juvenile flaming on this newsgroup?
Although I'm glad you at least had the courtesy to make nonsensical
accusations, so that we might recognize flame-bait..

Enough already.
>

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass
From: wpf@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Fornaciari)
Subject: Re: alt.percussion?
Keywords: drums
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:51:06 GMT

we're happy that drummers take the time to read this  :-)

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass
From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: Re: alt.percussion?
Keywords: drums
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:34:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.005501.9697@athena.mit.edu> dcseward@athena.mit.edu (DeWitt C. Seward IV) writes:
>Hey, net world.  I have a simple question.  There is a news group for
>guitar and bass.  There are also ftp sites which have lyrics (i.e. for
>singers).  Being a drummer, I feel left out.  Why aren't there any
>percussion newsgroups?  Does nobody on the net play drums besides me?
>
>-dcs

For all those interested:  I have a Drum/Percussion
email mailing list going.  We have about 65 subscribers
currently and some interesting discussion going on.  If
you would like to subscribe, send me a message with the
subject 'subscribe' and your email address in the letter.
Send subscription requests to:
drum-request@elof.iit.edu

See you there!

Jason Boardman

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: SESPC374@ysub.ysu.edu (Michael J. Walp)
Subject: Re: Fan Club Mailing Address at Last...
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:25:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.143100.1484@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) writes:
 
>
>According to my calculations, SESPC374@ysub.ysu.edu typed...
>> Sorry this is two days late, I got buried under a class project...
>>        Rush Backstage Club
>>        1055 East Tropicana, #580
>>        Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
>> Send a SASE to the address and they will send you information....
>> Enjoy...
>
>This address is out of date.  Try this one instead:
>
>   Rush Backstage Club
>   951 Toni Ave.
>   Las Vegas, NV 89119
>
>(Gotta love that FAQ)
>--
>
>    typed by Dan Delany.
>    (That's dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu or dan@bud.csc.calpoly.edu to you!)
>    I failed the Turing test.
Sorry all I copied that address off of a coupon for Presto (Cd) that I got at
the Cleveland stop during the tour in 1990.  I couldn't find any of my
newsletters or anything like that this morning when I left the house...  My
apologies for the screw up...   I had forgotten that it had changed...
                                      Mike...
                                   (yep says so right here on my driver's
                                    license)
father-time at unix1.cc.ysu.edu
From: SESPC374@ysub.ysu.edu (Michael J. Walp)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Tourbooks
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:16:39 GMT
Organization: Youngstown State University

In article <1992Aug11.161709.20244@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
bob@ashanti.ibm.com (Robert Reynolds) writes:
 
>
>
>   Is it possible to order the actual concert tourbooks
>   from old tours?  I would really like to get some of the
>   old tourbooks from tours that I missed.  If anyone knows
>   if you can do this or how to do it please email me.
>
>
>     thanks,
>     Bob
>
>  Prisoner of fate, victim of circumstance
>  I was lined up for glory, but the tickets sold out in advance
>--
>
>           regards,
>               Bob
>
Bob,
   You can get several from the Rush fan club.  I joined for something like
$12.00 and they sent me a signals tour book free along with some other stuff.
I can dig up the address for you if you'd like.  The membership is for life
and they periodically send you newsletters and tour updates, price lists for
concert shirts and things like that ( a lot of the shirts and stuff is cheaper
through them).  In the last price list they were selling moving pictures,
signals, roll the bones, presto, and hold your fire tour books.  I think they
range in price from like $8.00 to $15.00...  I will dig up the address and mail
it to you as soon as possible...
                                       Mike...
 
Michael J. Walp
Youngstown State University
Student Programming Consultant
Secretary, ACM Student Chapter
 
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From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Interview with Alex
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 11:20:15 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS


 The following text is an article that I typed up from M.E.A.T, a Canadian
Metal Magazine.  Issue 30, March '92.   I thought I'd take a couple of 
hours and type it up for you guys!  I think it's a very good interview.
        
Enjoy!  (and excuse my typos)

---- [part 1]

Canada's #1 Rock Act!

Rush

Special Feature by: Drew Masters

   Growing up in rural Ontario, dreaming of becoming a rock star, only one 
band really mattered: Rush -- they had it all.  I may have wanted to be a 
star because of Ace Frehley, but I wanted to be a guitarist -- a musician 
-- because of Alex Lifeson.

   Sixteen years after hearing my first Rush record, I find myuself 
standing in the middle of their dormant but ominous equipment carefully 
placed in waiting at their rehearsal hall in Toronto.  Looking around this 
large, warehouse like room, I just about froze: there were Alex's guitars, 
Geddy Lee's basses, and Neil Peart's kit.  Though the band members weren't 
there yet, their stage manager, Skip Gildersleeve, graciously let me look 
at their stuff up close.  And there it was: I touched Alex's guitar; I 
touched Neil's kit; I touched Geddy's bass and keyboard.  I touched my 
childhood dream.

  Alex came in nonchalantly and immediately began joking with me, and his 
crew, about some crazy driver he had encountered on the way to rehearsal.  He 
never dropped his smile as we went from their sacred rehearsal room to a 
nearby production office.  Closing the door behind us, Alex lit up a smoke 
as I poured myself a coffee.  Here I was in awe sixteen years later -- in 
the private presence of my greatest guitar hero of all time.

   What transpired was a 60-minute conversation with Alex done last October 
before the beginning of their Canadian/world tour in support of their most 
successful album to date, Roll The Bones.  Though quite relaxed on the 
outside, I was falling apart inwardly.  Seven years a jounalist, over 300 
interviews with every major star, and I was freaking out inside.  But 
still I feel I got a good interview -- not the best, as I left out some 
important questions I should have asked, but you try this!  And, now, 
enough from me -- may I proudly present to you Alex Lifeson, and the life' 
and times of Canada's greatest ever rock band, Rush:

                    [ continued in the next message ]


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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mmarx@csli.stanford.edu (Matthew Marx)
Subject: and now for something completely trivial!
Organization: CSLI, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:08:34 GMT

After rearranging my sock drawer for the umpteenth time :) I stumbled
across something worthy of my time: totaling up Rush's recording time!
So here goes:

studio albums: 9 hours, 51 minutes,  8 seconds.
live albums:   3 hours, 50 minutes, 57 seconds. 
(Note: includes "What You're Doing" & "A Passage To Bangkok" from Chronicles)
original songs: 9 hours, 58 minutes, 12 seconds
(Note: includes studio albums + "Intro" (ASOH), "The Rhythm Method"
(ASOH), and "Broon's Bane" (ESL))

Some of you may count "original material" differently, but I just
wanted to post these figures for anyone interested. C'ya!
 
-- 
Matt Marx: mmarx@csli.stanford.edu                  Lee/Lifeson '92
The Chinese say that when you die, you will "go to meet Marx." Hmmm.
From: ivan@berlioz.nsc.com (Ivan Wemple)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Rush & Terry Brown
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:44:27 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation
Originator: ivan@berlin


If I'm correct, the last Terry Brown - produced Rush album
was "Signals".  It makes sense to me that Brown simply said,
"this album sucks", and threw in the towel.
There hasn't been a good Rush album since.  It's sad, but
true (as Rush used to be the greatest rock band in the world)...

Geddy, Neil, and Alex are has-beens.  And yes, I've listened
to their recent frivolous wank and drivel thoroughly.
It just don't cut it!

Ivan
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: dieter@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Dieter Kreuer)
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Organization: Informatik IV - RWTH Aachen
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 07:48:54 GMT

In article <4310@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> leaver@prg.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Leaver)
writes:

>He's probabably here for the same reason as me - I absolutely *adore*
>every album from FBN to PeW. Totally and completely brilliant. Among
>the best albums of all time (all IMHO, of course!). However, as
>for the rest - p/g I find okay, but the others I don't like. I mean,
>I still buy the new albums for old time's sake - I am a Rush fan, after
>all. But that doesn't mean I have to like everything they've done.
>
>Similarly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are a good number
>of fans of the later albums, say from PoW onwards, who aren't so keen
>on the earlier stuff that I like - is there anybody out there who
>fits that bill? I'd be interested to know!

Yes, me! I have started listening to Rush with Moving Pictures and Signals,
they really got me into it. Then, Grace under Pressure was a bit of a
disappointment, it took me some time to learn to like it. Power Windows was
a blast, especially 'Marathon', 'Territories', and 'Mystic Rhythms'. I thought
Hold Your Fire was a little too heavy first, but now I like it even more than
Power Windows. And Presto and RTB - my favorites. 
To complete my collection, I recently bought A Farewell to the Kings - hmm,
that's not IT. I recognize some elements of their newer stuff, but Geddy
with high pitch voice in Cygnus X-1, no, not my taste. And my latest purchase
was Permanent Waves. Not as good as their next album, MP, but worthwhile to
listen to it once a day now. Let's see, what Hemispheres is like.

These are of course my very personal opinions.

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From: kers@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Chris Dollin)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:46:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Renaissance discography
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive


As a small follow-up to Andy Powell's appearance on _Ashes Are Burning_ (at the
end of the title track, which is the last track on the album), note that John
Tout played keyboards on the last track of Wishbone Ash's album _Argus_,
released within a few months of _AaB_ (I think). (The track is _Throw Donw the
Sword_; just as Powell only appears in the close of _AaB_, Tout only appears in
the close of _TDTS_.)

Anyone know what the relationship twix the bands was?
--

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Kers.       | ruin his performance in each layer." - Don Gillies
From: martem@uio.no (Marte Nolet)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Scandinavian progressive rock bands
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:27:02 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive,soc.culture.nordic
Organization: Uio, Norway

You write in article <CHRISLEY.92Aug7231909@black.oxford.ac.uk>,
chrisley@oxford.ac.uk (Ronald L Chrisley) wrote:
> 
> 
> In a month or so (yes, I'm planning ahead) I will be back in
> Scandinavia for a week or two.  This time I plan to track down some
> cheap (I know, dream on), obscure progressive rock.  I would like some
> suggestions as to what to look for.


I don+t know were to look for second handshops in Sweden, a normal record
in Norway is between 10 and 15 dollars.  
You certanly should try to get some of the newer music by Mikael Wiehe and
Bjoern Afzelius. But they might not be so interesting if you don+t read
Scandinavian. Also the old records of Hoola Bandoola and Cabareorkestern is
great for those still having a maoist in his/her stomach. Norwegian
Tramteateret is also among them,but mostly the older though. Jazz/blues
interested should try norwegian composer Ketil Bj?rnstad and also sami Mari
Boine Person is great and very sort of folk-rock.
From: STEVE.SYCAMORE@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Steve Sycamore")
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Album dump
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:56:46 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Apologies to anyone who's enquired about the 'Album dump'.  My Internet
gateway is experiencing technical difficulties and is extremely unreliable.
I'll hold on to the entire set and will repost when the gateway is stable.

Steve Sycamore           Home (603) 888-1263
84 Stillwater Dr.
Nashua, NH 03062
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone)
Subject: UZ & P. Gabriel & Miscellaneous
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:47:37 GMT

Thank you, Mike and Malcolm, for the information on Univers
Zero and its spinoffs.


Peter Gabriel Flash:

Geffen has pushed back the U.S. release date of _US_ to September 29.  
This is supposed to be an Honest-To-God firm release date.  Several
friends attended a private "listening party" for the CD.  They
said it's incredible.  It's about 62 minutes long, with two tracks 
aimed at the _SO_ crowd.  The rest of the CD is a finely crafted melange 
of PG's influences and styles.  The press release claims that _US_ is the 
logical answer to _Passion_ ---  or words to that effect.


Miscellaneous:

Could someone please provide me with the names of the CD labels
for the following CDs:

	1) Ozric Tentacles	

		-  _Erpland_
		-  _Pungent Effulgent_

	2) Mastermind		
		-  _Volume One_
		-  _Brainstorm_
				
	3) Eden's Taste
		
		- _Meilensteine_

	4) Iconoclasta

		- _Reminiscences_


Thanks,

Ralph Marrone
From: David.A.Wolk@dartmouth.edu (David A. Wolk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Random Questions
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:52:48 GMT
 <13931@auspex-gw.auspex.com> 
 <1992Aug7.020358.5339@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
 <85989@netnews.upenn.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <85989@netnews.upenn.edu>
jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot) writes:

> >> But you can only get them if you live in the bay area.  <snicker, snicker>
> >...or Philadelphia.
> 
> WHERE IN PHILADELPHIA?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
> 
> HELP!!!!!!!

You can find them on CD or on tape at just about any of the American
Record Convention shows.  They have them once a month and are usually
advertised in the newspaper and WYSP.  Usually they are held in the
King of Prussia area.  There are many live shows from Lamb, and some
are really quite good quality for '74 or '75.
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: ELP In Concert
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 09:00:36 GMT

If I recall correctly, someone posted that some taped ELP live segments  
from the current tour were to be on In Concert tonight (August 14). At  
least in my area (San Diego), In Concert wasn't on at all. Was it  
broadcast anywhere else? Was the date changed? Hopefully this won't be  
like the ELPowell MTV concert (at least I didn't throw a party this time).

Also, has anyone seen any of the reported singles from Black Moon? Are  
they CD singles? Do they contain any unreleased tracks? Hopefully I'll get  
lucky and run across one (like I did with the ELPowell 12" of "Touch and  
Go" which incidentally has a fun-filled b-side cover of "The Locomotion").

Gordon

P.S. Speaking of ELP cover tunes, a high school friend of mine suggesting  
during ELP's hey day that they should do a cover of "Ding Dong The Witch  
is Dead". Couldn't ya just hear Lake singing "Sing it high - sing it  
low"...

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From: kemp@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (John Kemp)
Subject: Re: Emerson's Best Revenge:MurderRock
Organization: University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:16:37 GMT

In article <88867@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> dgrimm@awm.UUCP (Don Grimm CS50) writes:
>  (Shiv Naimpally) shiv@bnr.ca writes:
>  > I saw this CD recently and was debating whether to get it. Can anyone
>  > tell me what its like ?
>
>  Emerson soundtracks have never really grabbed me.  There's a couple of
>  good tracks on these but there's a lot of filler, too.
>  ...stuff deleted...
>  The main problem, I guess, is that a lot of his soundtrack stuff doesn't 
>  stand very well on it's own.  'Inferno' I don't like at all.
>
>  The CD 'The Emerson Collection' has all the stuff you'd want to hear from 
>  the soundtracks, if you can find it.

WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

"The Emerson Collection" wreaks!  But I would definitely 
recommend "NightHawks" and would slightly less enthusiastically
recommend "Inferno".

"The Emerson Collection" skips the very best stuff on those 
two albums.

All just my opinion, but I thought it was interesting that 
I am 180 degrees opposite the previous poster...

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From: white@mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master)
Subject: Re: Emerson's Best Revenge:MurderRock
Organization: S.H.A.D.O.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:52:03 GMT


	"Best Revenge" and "Murderock" are two seperate soundtracks.
Chord Records stuck them both together on a single CD release.  BTW,
the rights to the recordings are in dispute so Emerson probably isn't
getting any roylaties from these sales.

	Anyway, "Best Revenge" has some wonderful material on it.
Emerson's opening piano piece, "The Dreamer", is one of the most 
beautiful pieces he's ever written.  If only he could have put this
one on "Black Moon".  There's also a rock version of this song.
The only weak parts of "Best Revenge" are a horrible hillbilly-type
song called "Right Between the Eyes", and a lengthy percussion interlude
during the "Orchestral Suite".  Otherwise, I think any Emerson fan would
want this soundtrack.

	"Murderock" is much weaker, and contains "snippets" of music.
If Emerson were asked to write the music to "Psycho", you have a pretty
good idea what it sounds like.  There are a few poppy tunes too, the
best of which is "Not So Innocent".

	Emerson's best soundtrack though by far is "Inferno".  Find
this one if you can; it picks up where "Piano Concerto #1" left off.

	"The Emerson Collection" selects cuts from all the soundtracks,
but almost ignores "Inferno".  Chord Records as I mentioned previously,
are marketing these without Emerson's consent.  A word of warning to
potential buyers: some of the tracks are mastered from vinyl!  The Chord
Records CD of "Honky" is completely mastered from vinyl, but the "Best
Revenge/Murderock" CD sounds fine.

Dave White
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Xref: sparky alt.music.progressive:1976 soc.culture.nordic:5048
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Scandinavian progressive rock bands
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:20:29 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug11.150447.18745@burrhus.harvard.edu> canders@isr.harvard.edu (Carl E. Anderson) writes:
>In article <CHRISLEY.92Aug7231909@black.oxford.ac.uk> Ronald L Chrisley, chrisley@oxford.ac.uk writes:
|>Finnish:
|>Tasavallan Presidentti
|>Wigwam
|>Pekka Pohjola
|>Jukka Tolonen
|>Finnforest
|>Anssi Tikanmaki (?)
|
|	Now how do I find this material in the US?

I've seen Tasavallan Presidentti and Jukka Tolonen as imports in the US
a few times.  Can't tell you if they`re still being distributed though.

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| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Strawbs Article in "Goldmine"
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:48:46 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

The latest issue of GOLDMINE has an excellent article on the STRAWBS,
goes through each of their albums, discusses the songs, etc. about four
pages in all. FYI

peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"