HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mjw19@cl.cam.ac.uk (M.J. Williams)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: images of Heroes
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:25:27 GMT
Reply-To: mjw19@cl.cam.ac.uk (M.J. Williams)
Organization: The National Society for the Inversion of Cudddly Tigers

In article <1992Sep27.003059.3318@infodev.cam.ac.uk> I write
>_______________________________________________________________________________
> \   ^   / Michael Williams                     Part II Computer Science Tripos
>  |\/|\/\  MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk                          University of Cambridge
>  |  |(__) Cymdeithas Genedlaethol Traddodiad Troi Teigrod Mwythus Ben I Waered
>   ________________________________________________________________________
>     \   ^   /  | Michael Williams          Part IB Computer Science Tripos
>      |\/|\/\   | MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk               University of Cambridge
>      |  |(__)  | Cymdeithas Genedlaethol y Trawddodiad o Dywalgwn Hawddgar

Oops, the hassles of changing .sig-s 8-(. Oh well.

_______________________________________________________________________________
 \   ^   / Michael Williams                     Part II Computer Science Tripos
  |\/|\/\  MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk                          University of Cambridge
  |  |(__) Cymdeithas Genedlaethol Traddodiad Troi Teigrod Mwythus Ben I Waered
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Yay!
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 22:34:08 GMT

wadlow@bela.music.washington.edu (John Wadlow) writes:
: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) writes:
: > 
: >    I had my first serious male kiss last week. [grin]
: > 
: >    It was heaps of fun. And I'm still struggling to capture the difference
: > between kissing males & females. (And no, I don't mean stubble - he was
: > more cleanly shaven than I was 8->).
: 
: Actually, is there a difference?  I mean basically the mouth is the same  
: for both genders.  Isn't it? 

The primary difference that I observe is olfactory.  Men _smell_ 
different.  I phrase it that way round because I'm used to, and
greatly enjoy, the common parts of female smells I've encountered.
(Their differences are usually delightful too :-)  On the other hand,
I have yet to get used to common male smells, often encountered
while kissing.

All observations of difference are entirely subjective, of course.
Different people deliberately (or indirectly) change their smells,
and some people's vary over time (the menstrual cycle being
generally quite noticable).  Still, the men I've been up close with
have, with only a few exceptions, exuded a startlingly different
odour.  It's not that I don't like it - it's more that it's
an immediate reminder, like stubble, that I'm doing things I
didn't do before, which can be mildly irksome.  Still, practice
makes perfect :-)

Mike, who is quite into noses, in point of fact  *grin*
-- 
Mike Lloyd, B0/1 h- f- t w- c g+ k+ s m- e? |"Bloody nose and burning eyes
      Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and        | Raised in laughter to the skies"
          backrubber of devotion            |     - Bruce Cockburn
 ....."I suffer from internalized homophonophobia"....."Their, they're".....
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Multiple Orientations?
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:10:38 GMT
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

In article <1992Sep26.081716.10956@news.acns.nwu.edu> 
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.054022.12653@cltr.uq.OZ.AU> 
> yal@cltr.uq.oz.au (Yvette Lian) writes:
>>But I've gotten away from the point I wanted to make - why should straights
>>question their sexuality? [...]

>"The unexamined life is not worth living." -- (I think this is a quote
>from someone famous but *I* heard it from one of my queer friends about
>the time I was coming out as gay/bi.

Next time maybe I'll look up my own quotes...

I'm buggered if I know what socrates really meant or if he was bi or not
or daft or not ;)

But what made me raise this in the first place was it seemed a very apt
quote both to my coming out, and my subsequent life. Being bi has been
a major contributing factor in making me look at my own life and motivations.

A few years ago taking the Meyers-Briggs tests with a bunch of friends
I rated as most "Introspective" in the group.  And for some time I've
been seeing a Rogerian Client-centered therapist. (I met her years ago
when she was leading a workshop on bisexuality -- at the time, though
previously married and devorced, she identified as lesbian, and I wasn't
too sure what to call myself. Now bi pretty definitely fits us both.)

On the other hand, for all that I may "know myself", I can still be
pretty clueless in figuring out other people -- introspection and empathy
are not mutually exclusive, but they aren't the same thing.

I sometimes wish I could offer some clues to my younger self, as at the rate
I'm going I may have this all "figured out" a bit too late....

A few more quotes (*not* from somebody famous):

"Good judgement is the result of experience; 
 Experience is the result of bad judgement."

"Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want."

-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Where are the bisexuals?
Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:08:24 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <MUFFY.92Oct5111818@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
->so it was hard to tell how well that would generalize...*smile*.  I have
->noticed, though, that there is still more apparent acceptance of female
->bisexuals than male by the "straight" (if that word really applies to
->BDSM people...*grin*) people.

Well, I think that's generally true in most circles.  This opinion is based
on the feedback I've gotten around the net when people I talked with thought
I was a female bi, as compared to the impressions I've gotten when people I
talked with thought I was a male bi.

Of course, as all of us know, 

Female bi's are hot.
Male bi's are sick.

It's the 'hot bi babes' v. 'sick bi fags' syndrom ... 

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roy S. Rapoport         rsr@soda.berkeley.edu          bi-bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
          I'm not gay but my boyfriend ... err, actually he's bi also.
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (/)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Heard on late night radio...
Date: 26 Sep 92 01:37:44 GMT
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.

elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes, quoting radio:

> 	"You know, Reagan came out of Hollywood, and when he came into
> the White House, the whole Hollywood thing came with him.  Even though
> they're screaming about it, we can look the last twelve years as being
> responsible for the networks bisexuality on everybody.  I mean, you're
> seeing on the networks, you're seeing it in the movies.  It's all over
> MTV, they show that bisexuality stuff everyday!"
> 
> 	*Giggle*
> 
> 			Elf !!!!
> 

Oh, chortle and gasp!  Don't I wish.

Namaste,
Elizabeth
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From: kdc5072@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.D. Colagio)
Subject: Re: Weirdness
Originator: kdc5072@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:39:23 GMT

In article <1ae1v8INNlor@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Eclipse) writes:
>
>>>> You: Yes, it's stocking but true. The Bible itself! For instance: in
>>>> the story of creation, you know, with Adam and Eve... Well, if they
>>>> were the first two humans from which the whole human race started then
>>>> their kids _must_ have had incestuous relationships in order to have
>>>> children because there was nobody else around to marry! [...]
>>>
>>>Actually, I recall that Adam and Eve had three sons.  Okay then, where
>>>did they go from there?
>>
>>Presumably Eve had sex with her sons. Strange then that I never read
>>about it in "The Weekly World News". If we could only prove that Eve was
>>a space alien and that one of her sons was an earlier incarnation of
>>Elvis then they might be interested.
>
>Actually one of my friends and I have been looking through a people
>recently (particularly looking for paradoxes and REAL stupid or 
>ridiculous passages).  One thing I remember noticing refered to
>Adam and Eve and one of their sons.  It was a couple days ago and
>I don't have a bible handy but I think I remember most of it.  
>
>Adam and Eve, and their sons did not commit incest.  One of the sons
>(I don't remember which) wonders off marries a women from the people
>of Nod (I think nod translated at sometime in some language to nomad).
>Now if Adam and Eve where the first people where did this whole tribe
>of people come from?????  (This is just one of many things that makes
>me sick when people start condeming homosexuality because they say the
>bible says its a sin.)
>
> 
I am in the process of reading the bible (lower case for a reason <grin>)
and what it says is that Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters
(Genesis 5.3 - 5.5).  

If you want a quote, drop me some E-mail...but it does say they had more
children of both genders.

A born again down the dorm hall from me have had a few disscussions, and
after checking with his religious leader (I have no idea what they are
called in his church....) he said "yes, there is incest in the bible"

What is also interesting is that there is polygamy....<grin> I haven't
brought that one up yet....

ob-Soc.bi (aka ob-flirt):
  *hugs* and SLURPS to all!
               '


     =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     -  Kevin Colagio...student at large -   In Gods we trust,      =
     =               aka                 -   All others pay cash.   -
     -      KDC5072@ultb.isc.rit.edu     -        -Vladimir Taltos  =
     =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     -    Warning: Government is hazardous to your health.  Save    =
     = me from those who would pass laws to protect me from myself. -
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hmmm, this should include religion too, but there isn't enough room....

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From: rhialto@falu.sneakernet (Olaf Seibert)
Subject: Re: whatever . . .
Organization: Olaf's Own Amiga
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.8m
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	<rhialto.004d@falu.sneakernet><10867@scott <6246@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:59:08 GMT

[Bethan hugs Mike and Olaf,
 Olaf hugs Colin, Bethan and Mike,
 Bethan hugs Colin]

In article <6246@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>,
	zzaascd@hpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:
>In article <10867@scott.ed.ac.uk>, bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
>> Why, thank you, Olaf, even if you did just attempt to blackmail me....

Ah, I was trying the good cop/bad cop method, but I was only on my own, so
I had to split myself into separate postings...

>Indeed - thankyou Olaf.  As for blackmailing Bethan - I try to think up a
>suitable punishment for when next we meet...

Oooh! You noticed one of my rare posts in a.s.b...

--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert  B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+
\X/   It'sneveragoodideatoarriveinthepastwithyourpantsaroundyourknees -Sam
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From: mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd)
Subject: Re: I am not a bisexual!!!!
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 23:33:05 GMT

Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON) writes:
: After having read Isuelt posting I wondered if that describes me also. I 
: am sexual and plumbing is not a major concern for me.

Agreed (that is, for me, not you ;-), although I'm still musing about
Iseult's comment about the >person< not mattering.  That's a deep one,
and I for one need some time to consider it properly.  Thanks all the
same, Iseult - it's a strong point.

: ... I have 
: found its ok to love and express love, that thunderbolts rarely come out of 
: the sky, and that shit I was taught when I was younger was just that,
: shit.

My favourite badge is still the simple one I have, saying "They're
lying".  (Although I was recently given some of the *best* badges, queer
and otherwise, recently - should I quote the neater ones?)

I've never seen a thunderbolt come out of the sky, but I've seen several
come out of people, oft-times headed my way.  It's a risky, painful
world.  Still, as I ultimately avoided saying in the Socratic thread, I
do live life for it's own sake.  Despite the thunderbolts, people are
still more than worth it.  [psychobabble mode off]

: So does this mean I am sexual, bisexual, gourmet sexual, wierd or just human.

All of the above, I would think.  Skip the "just", though :-)

: Ben Gibson
: 
: Kinsey surfer:)

Now that one >made my day<!  Marvellous image.  Hugs, Ben!

Mike, who _was_ having a bad night, trying not to make reference to
bisexuality in the exam he's trying to set [Mike winks to Ellen and Coe,
cliqueishly] 



-- 
Mike Lloyd, B0/1 h- f- t w- c g+ k+ s m- e? |"Bloody nose and burning eyes
      Retro-hippy, music nut, bi and        | Raised in laughter to the skies"
          backrubber of devotion            |     - Bruce Cockburn
 ....."I suffer from internalized homophonophobia"....."Their, they're".....
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Ellen's Pix...
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



[From Usenet]

[J W Harley Writes]

>   jon (who *still* hasn't seen Ellen's photos from Dave's party either)

[Bethan Davies Writes:]
 
> Yes, I know, I know. It was _completely_ my fault for not reminding Sara
> that you'd be at the meeting on Thursday (grovel, grovel). Never mind...
> just think that it'll give you the perfect excuse to come up to Edinburgh
> again.....

Look, I have a copy of the pictures here with me, I've been too busy 
firefighting my problems to properly do anything with them and I feel 
guilty hoarding them, Ellen, can I give them to anyone you would want 
them to go to? Would Bethan want them? or Angi or Colin or Tanaqui or
....?

Clive Grace    <===== now that Clive Jones is on the net I'll take steps
                      to differentiate my postings from him.... to avoid
                      any confusion then may occur.

+----------------------------------------------+----------------------+
| "When I grow up, I want to give up being a   |cliveg@compulink.co.uk|
| Journalist and learn how to write..."        |cliveg@compulink.uucp |
+----------------------------------------------+----------------------+
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Convo with cool friend.
Date: 7 Oct 1992 02:47:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct7.020740.8913@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jepler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff) writes:

->I'm not sure how serious my friend was about trying both sexes, or if that
->just went with the idea of his own gender being sortof 'fluid,' or what..
-> 
->This sort of conversation where people seem to be admitting that gender or
->sexuality isn't a matter of just two choices is the sort of thing that can
->make my whole day (or week) -- I feel like people are setting themselves free
->of the 'old rules,' or that I can at least find people who do so...

*grin* Tell me about it ... When I came to Furry, I was male, and wasn't
thinking at all about being female ... the first time I changed was not by
choice (I was tied down, and made to drink something (I have to find the
woman who did that one of these days and thank her :) )) ... then I got into
it, and started wondering:

If I'm female, and I make love to a man, is that 'straight' sex or 'queer'
sex? It wasn't that one was wrong ... hell, I came to Furry to find out if I
could actually make love to a man as a man (the answer was a very enjoyable
(VR at least) *YES*) ... it was just an interesting philosophical question
...

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roy S. Rapoport         rsr@soda.berkeley.edu          bi-bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
          Yet another victim of the most dangerous man on Usenet.
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
From: Sa121@phx.cam.ac.uk (Arrowsmith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Some fears and doubts about my sexuality
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:16:49 GMT
Organization: Surrealists against Lobsters

In article <6z5qbc86@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>Lordy, lordy, lordy, this is turning into alt.therapy.amateur-shrink, isn't
>it?
>
Just the over-spill from not seeing my counsellor for two and a half months.
And I'm not exactly sure if it's really helping me anyway.  (Both the
University and my College have one-on-one counselling services, but I don't
know of any co-counselling sessions.)

--
\S
SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk           | There's nowt |"Stormy weather turns to blue;
sarrowsm@nyx.cs.du.edu        | so queer as  |"Here's a song to take with you:
                              | folk....     |  --Mike Oldfield, "Taurus II"
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: Call the Office of the Governor in Orgon - No on 9
Followup-To: soc.bi
Summary:  WRONG NUMBER!!
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:47:25 GMT

In article <m0mZSFI-0001JlC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> wje00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Warren Jay Eggly) writes:
>Call the Office of the Governor in Orgon - No on 9
>The number of the Governor is 

>		508-378-3111

Sorry, folks, but I just tried to call that number;
the kind pholks at the phone company tell me the new number is

                912-748-5000

I just tried calling this number at 7:50 EDT and no one answers.

What gives??
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@amber.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: chocolate = sex (Re: Civil War in Oregon)
Reply-To: orc@pell.chi.il.us
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:44:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.182930.1375@bcrka451.bnr.ca> bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth) writes:
|Scott Dorsey writes:
|> --scott
|>    (who defines the eating of Lindt bittersweet chocolate as 
|>     a form of sex)
|I guess now I can say that I've had sex in public, in an elevator, at 
|work, ... gee, in all kinds of places. ;)

   (The sound of plummeting purity scores is heard...)

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ 58% Pure
		  \/
From: J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Multiple Orientations?
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:07:55 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes:

>Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>+
>+"The unexamined life is not worth living." -- (I think this is a quote
>+from someone famous but *I* heard it from one of my queer friends about
>+the time I was coming out as gay/bi.
>
>Probably from that funny fellow, or his student, who supposedly slept the
>night away without ravaging his lust object, and gave the western
>world a botched form of love.

If you ravage your lust objects, remind me to look extra ugly if I ever
meet you!

I don't think platonic love, if that is what you are referring to, is
"botched". I love lots of people (certainly several dozen) to a greater
or lesser extent, but that doesn't mean I want to f**k (more than one of)
them. You may feel differently about yours, but each to his own. For me,
platonic love has an important place.


//jon
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From: zzaascd@hpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: whatever . . .
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:34:21 GMT
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept Manchester University

In article <10867@scott.ed.ac.uk>, bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
> In article <rhialto.004d@falu.sneakernet> rhialto@falu.sneakernet (Olaf Seibert) writes:
> >In article <6124@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>,
> >	zzaascd@meehpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:
> >>In article <10782@scott.ed.ac.uk>, bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
> >>|> <HUGS> to Mike and Olaf for saying good things (again)....
> >>(Waiting patiently to be added to the list...)
> 
> Aww.... Colin. I just haven't happened to reply to one of your posts
> recently. Anyway, I don't remember you 'waiting patiently' for a hug
> at a certain party..... ;)

Well... I was *quite* patient.  I must've waited a whole microsecond between
someone telling me who you were and me pouncing on you...

> Have an e-osculate to make up?   (good word that, innit?)

Hmm...
osculate v. 1 tr. Math. (of a curve or surface) have contact of at least the
second order with; have two branches with a common tangent, with each branch
extending in both directions of the tangent.

Gosh - Bethan wants to have (at least) second order contact with me! <blush>

Oh, hang on...
2 v.intr. & tr. joc. kiss.

Oh well, I suppose I can't complain at getting a kiss from one so lovely as
Bethan.  (But I *was* looking forward to that second-order contact...).
 
> >Colin, have a *HUG*! And while I'm at it, Bethan, have one too! And Mike
> >as well, just for good measure.
> 
> Why, thank you, Olaf, even if you did just attempt to blackmail me....

Indeed - thankyou Olaf.  As for blackmailing Bethan - I try to think up a
suitable punishment for when next we meet...
 
Hugs 'n' stuff,

Colin

(defs are from COD8, btw)

  Colin Dente                     | JANET: dente@uk.ac.manchester
  Manchester Computing Centre     | ARPA:  dente@manchester.ac.uk
  University of Manchester, UK    | UUCP:  ...!mcsun!ukc!manchester!dente
             	   ... I can't even *think* straight ...
From: jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (Royal J Carroll)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: being "in love"
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:40:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvpFFy.59J
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Oct5.180304.21112@midway.uchicago.edu> h431@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>Anyway, what I want to ask you net.people is whether you think that their
>are people who have never experienced erotic love for anybody, same or
>opposite sex?  
>
Yes.  After talking to many people about such diverse topics as
marriage, relationships and sexual orientation, I've found that unless
one has experienced erotic love for someone, they don't really
understand the concept.  That is, while they have an intellectual
understanding that it exists in the world, they have no experience to
serve as a reference.  Thus, they tend to think that "love" is nothing
more than attraction to more than the physical aspect of a person.  If
you find someone attractive and easy to get along with, you are "in love" 
with them.  In fact, I myself thought this until the first time that I
felt "erotic love" for someone.  I then thought, "So _this_ is love!"
It was a wonderful experience and gave me a better understanding about
the various levels of attraction one can have for someone.


>And do you think the invocation of "love" is a good or bad technique for
>convincing the sceptical straight-person?
>  
Only if the person can relate to the type of love you are referring to
due to personal experience would it be possible to (hopefully) get them
to understand.
>-- 
>
>- Heather Blair       h431@midway.uchicago.edu

-James
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