From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Subject: Re: Great Proposal !
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:19:12 GMT

In article <ebolog.17@elaine.ee.und.ac.za> ebolog@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (EDWIN BOLOGNA : THIRD) writes:

>Ok, just tell us all the Biblical errors and a logical explanation on how 
>you came about. No, do not quote the THEORY of evolution I said proof - your 
>own personal ideas on why the human body is symmetrical and does not have 
>two arms on one side and only one on the other for example. Also explain why 
>if human life came about by freak accident why only we are intelligent. Why 
>not, as logic would point out, some creature with a different shape to the 
>human being with the gift of intelligence.
>
>It is logical isn't it - and please do not ignore or laugh at the question.

OK.  You obviously did not follow the advice that I (and MANY others)
gave you, which was to get and read the alt.atheist FAQ file.
The final question in the FAQ gives the address
of the American Atheist Press,
which has published a list of biblical contradictions.
If you are interested in atheism, you will get it.  If you are
not, you won't; in this case, don't attempt to lecture us
on "logic", because you will have shown us that you are
not interested in basing your opinions on facts.

Your next point, that human life came about by "freak"
accident, is too vague.  Different theories of evolution
give different explanations for the development of
human life.  To many atheists, it is the biblical fairy
tale about creation which is truly "accidental".  God
created humans; why then, whey there, why not another 
form?  No answers from creationists.

Your next assumption is wrong:  humans are not the only
intelligent species; virtually all mammals, reptiles,
amphibians, etc. show signs of intelligence.  Interestingly,
the species which shows the most "human-like" intelligence
(chimps) also shows the greatest morphological and genetic
similarity to humans.  Just like most theories of evolution
would predict.  There is nothing "illogical" in the fact
that human intelligence is different than other animals'
intelligence.

Your first posting looked like flame-bait over the question
of some sort of god.  Now, you have shifted to a discussion
of evolution / origin of humans.  Not being an expert on
developmental biology, I don't have an answer to your
question about human morphology.  If you would like
to have people much more knowledgeable answer your question,
take you question to the group "talk.origins".  I read that
group regularly; is you don't post your question there,
I will assume that you have no interest in current research
on evolution and that you are simply a closed-minded windbag.

To sum up:  if you really are interested in a rational
discussion, then:
(1)  read the alt.atheist FAQ.
(2)  contact the American Atheist Press to get a
collection of bible contradictions.
(3)  take your questions about evolution to "talk.origins".

If you refuse to take the effort to examine facts and
opinions which threaten your "revealed" truths, then
you are just another lazy and deceitful salesman
for a religion with a long history of irrationality,
cruelty, and deception.

We've heard your arguments before, and many arguments
much more cogent and thoughtful, and found them
wanting.  If you have nothing rational or entertaining
to offer, go away.

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