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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:39:11 CST
From:         "John P. Hauck" <GG.JPH@ISUMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      MVS/VSE NSI JCL Coding Standards

I agree that what is good for MVS sites is not necessarily good for VSE
sites, and vice-versa!  I, for one, am tired of spending my life changing
JCL every time NOTIS sends out a new release.  Now that we have the PROCS in
place, lets leave the JCL alone.  If PROCS are not a good situation for VSE
sites, lobby NOTIS to change the VSE distribution, but please leave the MVS
distribution alone.

John P. Hauck                   BITNET: GG$JPH@ISUMVS   OPSYS: MVS/XA
Software Analyst (TECH1)         Phone: (515) 294-8424   CICS: 2.1.2
291 Durham Center                  FAX: (515) 294-1717    LMS: 5.0.2 production
Iowa State Univ. Computation Center                      MDAS: 1.2.1 production
Ames, IA  50011                                           GTO: 3.0   production
                                                         LMS 5.1, etc. in test
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:13:50 CST
From:         N.John@UIC.EDU
Subject:      oh no, here comes NUGM 93

The NOTIS classics are getting ready for our 1993 NUGM program:

The NOTIS Classics Present NO WAY OUT! user exits and trapdoors

Brief presentations followed by discussion of how NOTIS licensees
connect the LMS to other applications and networks in the local
environment

Moderator: Mark Hinnebusch

Presenter: Stephen Davis (tentative)
NOTIS and the CWIS: the Columbia approach.

Presenter: To Be Announced

So, all you TBA's -- DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS TO TALK ABOUT
EFFORTS AT INTERGRATING NOTIS INTO THE LOCAL SETTING????
Volunteer soon! and remember--

it pays for your registration, just a few hours of preparation and
the undying admiration of your colleagues can be yours....

Send replies and discreet inquiries
to me, or to the list (intentionally or otherwise)

Nancy

Nancy R. John                           voice: 312-996-2716
Assistant University Librarian          fax:   312-413-0424
University of Illinois at Chicago      BITNET: U31452@UICVM
Box 8198 m/c 234                     Internet: N.John@uic.edu
Chicago IL  60680
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:25:19 EST
From:         sarah <SHARTMAN@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CHAT: New poem
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Thanks!  Maybe we can all sing that at our next meeting...
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:43:00 CST
From:         "Mary Alice Ball, Loyola Univ." <ZMABBIE@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Release 5.1 -- Print and Send commands

Loyola has LMS 5.1 and MDAS 1.3 in test and is planning to move them
into production within a month.  I am wondering how people have set
up their terminal control to account for networked PCs or remote
access.

I would like to give people the ability to print or download using
the new NOTIS commands but often will have no idea what type of printer
they will be using.  I have set up our dumb terminals with dedicated
printers as "2 - ASCII" printers.  When I try the same for PCs with
printers, the system responds with PROG755's since it senses an
incompatibility with the physical equipment.

Has anyone successfully implemented this?  The new functionality is
something we have wanted for a long time and I would like to be able
to offer it to our patrons.  Any advice gratefully received.

Mary Alice Ball
Head of Library Systems
Loyola University of Chicago
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:35:00 EST
From:         JPILLAN@INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      DBMS Article
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About a month ago there was mention of an article in DBMS regarding
NOTIS.  Can someone please sent me which issue it was in.

Thanks


John Pillans
Programmer Analyst IV
Indiana University
jpillan@indiana.edu
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:02:33 EST
From:         GPO Mail <GPO@MARCIVE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      MARCIVE User Meeting - Call for topics
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TO: ALL MARCIVE GPO AND (NON-GPO) CUSTOMERS
FROM: JOAN CHAPA, MGR., GPO SERVICES
RE: USER MEETING ON 1/24/92 AT ALA MIDWINTER

MARCIVE will sponsor a user meeting at the ALA Midwinter Conference in Dallas
on January 24, from 8-10 P.M.  Exact location and agenda will be announced
later.

We are soliciting suggestions for discussion from our customers -- let us
know what YOU want to talk about!  Also, we heartily encourage any user
presentations.  Those of you who attended our user meeting at ALA San
Francisco last summer remember Margaret Mooney's popular presentation.  It
does not have to be a fancy ordeal - if you have a particular experience that
you want to share, please contact me as soon as possible.  We look forward to
hearing from you, and seeing you in Denver!
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:19:33 EST
From:         "Bhaskaran Balakrishnan [ph: (315) 443-1145]"
              <BBALAKRI@SUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      NOTIS-L archive at Syracuse University offline
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Comments: cc: libljr@suvm.BITNET

This is to inform you that we had a disk crash that affected the minidisk
that held the NOTIS-L archive (available via SUINFO).

The database has been moved off-line for repairs. Hopefully it will
be up and running in the next day or two.

Unfortunately, we may have lost email notes from 30 Dec 92 to 7 Dec 93.

I shall notify this discussion group when the database is up and running.

B
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:34:37 -0600
From:         LEIGH WILLIAMS <F_WILLIAMS@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Colorado amendment 2
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Excellent idea, Tom.  Those of us who are sick of the religious
right's distortions and of homophobia need to stand up and be
counted.  Bigotry is evil, and I for one am appalled to see it
codified into law.

I guarantee you that no dollars of mine will be going to Colorado
until this injustice is rectified.

Leigh Williams
SFASU
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:45:50 CST
From:         Jean Caswell <CASWELL@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Bill & fine problem

We are having a sporadic problem with fines not being posted to the bill &
fine file.  This has been noticed several times when books have been found
and discharged from lost.  When the head of circulation went to see what
amount might be refunded, there was no bill & fine record.  This weekend,
eleven books were charged to lost for one patron and nothing appeared in
the bill & fine file.  No fine notices were created either.  I was wondering
is this is a known problem, or if I should look for something mysterious
that has happened to our system since August.  Things seemed to be working
well before then.

Jean Caswell
Rice University
caswell@ricevm1.rice.edu
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:26:00 CST
From:         Chuck Thomas-NCHEMS/Chicago <CRT@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Looking for info on classroom display systems

On the subject of VGA color projectors, Mike Dolence at CalState/LA
mentioned to me recently that he was looking at a pretty good one
in the neighborhood of $2,000.  He was interested in using it with
a notebook computer for presentations.  I don't remember the details,
but you might contact him directly.

     Michael G. Dolence, Strategic Planning Administrator
     CalState University/Los Angeles (213) 343-2733
     kguemaa@calstate.bitnet

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     1100 North Lake Shore Drive 16B     FAX: 312-664-0512
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:58:28 EST
From:         "Luthy, John" <LUTHY@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Payroll/personnel systems

In response to Art Gonzalez's question...

At Dickinson College have moved from homegrown COBOL sytems to the integrated
Colleague system from Datatel.  We first went live with payroll/personnel on
1/1/91.  We are reasonably pleased with these modules specifically, and
generally pleased with Datatel (systems AND vendor) overall.

The biggest change for us was getting used to a vendor-supplied package rather
than something designed BY Dickinson FOR Dickinson.  We're still learning
about the system some two years after installation -- and still learning how
to support a system we didn't develop from the ground up.   There is more data
entry work for the clerical staff than under our old system, but which provides
much more information control and reporting to management.

Functionally, the vanilla payroll module did most of what we needed; personnel
was a real step forward beyond its predecessor.   We have customized both,
especially in support of our cafeteria style flexible benefits system.  We
also customized the process through which physical plant wages are distributed
to the departments in which they work (which varies significantly weekly).
We have made extensive use of the ad hoc reporting tool (UniQuery).

Dickinson College is a 4-year, private liberal arts institution.  We have
about 2000 students.  We have a semi-monthly salaried payroll, a bi-weekly
clerical hourly payroll, the bi-weekly physical plant hourly payroll, and a
student payroll every two or three weeks.

Datatel targets this year for a major revamping of the payroll/personnel
modules into a human resources application.  A new position control module
will be available.   We run Colleague on a Sequent (running a System V Unix
derivative), though it is available on other platforms including Ultrix and
VMS on the VAX.  Colleague runs on the UniData DBMS (which is PICK-like).
I'm not sure of the latest count, but there are close to 200 schools running
Datatel software.

Datatel is at 4375 Fair Lakes Court, Fairfax VA 22033; (703)968-9000

                John Luthy, Coordinator of Administrative Computing
                Dickinson College, Carlisle PA 17013
From: lb1z+%ANDREW.CMU.EDU@CARNEGIE.BITNET (Leonard M. Brush)
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Subject: Re: Payroll/personnel systems
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:55:41 GMT
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What is the 3GL in which DATATEL/Colleague is written??? Is it Basic? If
so is it interpretive Basic ??.....Does Dickinson have access to the
source code and if not who makes the mods/enhancements to the
code???Thanx, Len

*****************************************************
Len Brush, Assistant Vice President, Administrative Computing and
Information Services, Carnegie Mellon University, E-Mail is
LB1Z@ANDREW.CMU.EDU... PHONE# is 412-268-3888....FAX# is
412-268-6868...ADDRESS is:CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY
                                                  A C I S
                                                  4910 FORBES AVE.- UCC156
                                                  PITTSBURGH,PA. 15213
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:26:47 EST
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From:         "Dr. John C. Biddle" <JCBIDD01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Security Department software

Associate Professor Information Science & Data Processing
PHONE: (502) 588 - 6121
The University of Louisville has a different approach. We register parking
spots to people not vehicles to the campus. Some people can purchase a spot
that is theirs to use from 6am to 6pm.(Red) Others can purchase a hunting
permit for a gated lot(Blue) and the rest can purchase a hunting
permit(green). Dorm student get Gold hunting permits but there are sufficient
gols spaces for all the card. Blus is overbooked a little, Green somewhat
more. There is also a hierarchy where a Red can park in anything but another
red or a gold as long as the lot is a sufficient distance away from the red
numbered spot. Blue can park in green. This way only one hanging sticker is
issued to each person. It is the person's responsibility to have the parking
hanger displayed in the vehicle. It certainly eliminated reissue when people
get a new car. The person who owns the hanger is responsible for any
infraction where that hanger is involved.
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:34:54 EST
From:         Pete Kearney <Z1@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Results: On-Line Cashiering Survey

Maybe this can help Dennis make his decision and make Roy Martin feel more
sure that they made the right choice:

I have seen all of Roy's worst thoughts and worries about getting involved
with the IA "ready made" stuff come true here at the University of Florida.
They bought into the IA payroll system some years back and it turned out to
be a nightmare system that nobody wanted to work on; it was considered being
assigned to "Hell"!  There were so many layers of in-house modifications
that the whole thing became very convoluted.  If they looked back, they
would probably agree that they didn't save any time or money by going
the "canned" route.  They would certainly have a more clear cut product
that would do exactly what they wanted, and be more upgradeable.

Peter J. Kearney (Z1@NERVM.BITNET)
Coordinator of Computer Applications
University of Florida
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:16:00 EST
From:         LEDUCA@FIRNVX.BITNET
Subject:      Voice Response Equipment

                      E L E C T R O N I C   M E S S A G E

                                        Date:     12-Jan-1993 08:10am EDT
                                        From:     Albert L. LeDuc
                                                  LEDUCA
                                        Level:
                                        Tel No:   305/237-2208

TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( _jnet%cumrec-l@ndsuvm1 )


Subject: Voice Response Equipment

Available immediately for any institution of higher education for the price
of freight:  7 VCT (Davox) Series 2016 voice response systems.  Each is
configured differently, but they are capable of 16-line input.  A
configuration list is availble by fax.  Notify me by EMail (LEDUCA@FIRNVX)
or phone 305/237-2208.  This could be useful to someone for parts or
addition if a Davox system is in place.  ALLeDuc, Miami-Dade Community
College.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:02:17 EST
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From:         "Dr. John C. Biddle" <JCBIDD01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Looking for info on classroom display systems

Associate Professor Information Science & Data Processing
PHONE: (502) 588 - 6121
Ted, you are in the ball park at $6000 for a starting price on a "good"
system.
  Boxlight and Sharp and some others have some pretty good free standing
projectors that do not require an overhead and do not require the focusing
standards of a Sony or a Barco. Check the back of most popular trade journals
likePC Week, MacWeek, NewMedia, InfoWorld, etc. Visualon, 9000 Sweet Valley
Drive, Cleveland, OH 44125, markets the GE Geovista system for $3795. It has
640x480 VGA when you use the TV Link that comes with it. Have no more time
now.

Good Luck.

John
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:46:19 GMT
From:         Roy Martin <CCSYS005@CCSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Vehicle Registration - reply

In reference to the request for information about TICKET/VEHICLE registration
systems:

Here at CCSU vehicles are handled this way:

Faculty & staff pay a $15.00 yearly parking fee.  That covers all the vehicles
the person owns, (they DON'T pay $15.00 for each car they own).
Students pay:
  Fall & spring - $15
  Fall or spring - $7.50
  Each summer session - $5
  Dormitory, Fall or Spring - $10
  Dormitory, each summer session - $5
  Motorcycle - $6

Vehicle decals are issued for parking, (blue for faculty/staff, red for
students).  So far, no computer system to track decals/license places.
The student registers the car at registration time, and their registration
bill includes the vehicle registration as well.

If a student receives a parking ticket, the ticket is hand-written, then
later a HOLD is placed on the student's registration/academic records.
The hold is place in our computer system - home-grown system.
The student may not re-register or receive printed transcripts unless the
ticket is payed, (and the hold is removed).

||-------------------------------|-----------------------------------||
||   Roy Martin                  |  CORPUS CHRISTI STATE UNIVERSITY  ||
||   Programmer/Analyst &        |  6300 OCEAN DRIVE                 ||
||     GOD (Guardian Of Data)    |  CORPUS CHRISTI, TX  78412-5599   ||
||                               |     PHONE: (512) 994-2693         ||
||   CCSYS005@CCSUVM1            |     FAX:   (512) 994-2366         ||
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:00:00 MST
From:         Art Gonzalez <ARTG@EPCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Payroll/Personnel Packages

My name is Art Gonzalez and I am a Manager of Information Technology
at El Paso Community College.  We have several different platforms
at this institution.  We have an HP 3000 series 960, an HP 3000 series
950, and two DEC VAX 4200.  We currently run payroll on our HP system.
We would like to move payroll to one of the DEC's.  However, this
software doesn't run on anything other than an HP.

With this in mind, I'd like to find out what Payroll/Personnel systems
other educational institutions are utilizing.  I'd like your opinion of
the system, the name of the vendor, and a vendor contact for more
information.

Thanks in advance.

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<>  Art Gonzalez               >< Phone #  : (915) 775-6141       <>
<>  Manager, Information Tech. >< BITNET   : ARTG@EPCC            <>
<>  432 Frederick              >< INTERNET : ARTG@LAGUNA.EPCC.EDU <>
<>  El Paso, Texas  79905      >< THENET   : EPCC::ARTG           <>
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:50:00 +0000
From:         cassel@MCIS.MESSIAH.EDU
Subject:      Looking for info on classroom display systems

We here at Messiah College have in use 8 of the NView Spectra V-70 LCD's.
They have been very satisfactory in terms of projection capability and
performance.  They list for about $6000 but we buy them for $4350.

D. Wayne Cassel, Assistant to the Dean for Academic & Computing Services
Messiah College

cassel@mcis.messiah.edu
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:27:59 EST
From:         "Luthy, John" <LUTHY@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Security Department software

Straight from Sam McKelvey, our Director of Safety and Security:
===========================================================================
 Dickinson College requires all faculty, staff, and students to register
any motor vehicle they may bring on college owned property. A registration
card is completed and submitted to the Safety and Security office. This
data is entered into the department's computer in a "Streetgard" program.
There is no fee for this service. A color coded numerical decal is assigned
to each vehicle.  This decal is affixed to the left rear bumper area on the
vehicle.
 Parking rules are published in a brochure that is distributed to each person
who registers a vehicle with the college. The enforcement of the rules is
through the issuance of tickets and in rare exceptions towing. The fines
attached to the tickets are either ten or twenty-five dollars depending on
the specific violation. The tickets are forms that are filled in by the on
duty officer. The officer retains a stub with the number,date,type of
violation,description of vehicle . This information is also inserted into
the "Streetgard" program to process payments.
 Some resources that may be helpful:
 1. John Rich,Streetgard Inc., 400 Glen Ave.,Boiling Springs,Pa.17007
    Tele# 717-258 3160
 2.Stanley Wolfson Clancy Systems International Inc.,2250 Oneida St.,
   #308,Denver,CO.80224   Tele# 303-753 0197   (handheld ticket computers)

I would be glad to discuss any specific area of concern regarding parking
with those who would like to give me a call.     SRMc  (717) 245-1349
===========================================================================
Note: Streetgard software is available on several platforms; we migrated from
a standalone MS-DOS machine to a VAX running VMS.  Streetgard is a modular
system -- we have installed and/or considered Calls for Service, Criminal/
Supplemental Reports, Daily Log, Fleet History, Incident Reporting & Uniform
Crime Reporting.

--John Luthy, Coordinator of Administrative Computing, Dickinson College
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