HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cramer@Eng.Sun.COM (Sam Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Magazine with ads for shorwave radios?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:46:34 GMT
	<1993Jan25.181420.23261@guinness.idbsu.edu>
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gaxx
In-reply-to: betz@gozer.idbsu.edu's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:14:20 GMT

betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz):
> also, don't forget to check the big mail-order photo houses for
> prices on SW radios.  see mags like popular photography for ads
> for 47th street photo, etc.  if you know what you want and they
> happen to carry it, the photo house prices can be extremely
> competitive.

I heartily recommend Bi-Rite, an NYC photo discounter (800-223-1970).  They
sell Sony SW radios at attractive prices (e.g. 2010 @ ~$300). I think they
handle Panasonic, too.  To emphasize what Andrew says, this is a good place
to buy a radio if you know what you want and don't need hand-holding.
Don't expect to call to call them and BS about the pros and cons of various
radios, though: this a low overhead, high volume operation aimed at people
who want a good price on a specific consumer grade item.

BTW, would whoever maintains the FAQ please put a blurb regarding Bi-Rite
in it?  This question seems to come up from time to time.

Sam
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Subject: Re: Atheist country?
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
	<1993Jan26.151617.25730@watson.ibm.com> <C1HJvn.FtK@mach1.wlu.ca>
	<30615@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:43:37 GMT

In article <30615@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:

   In article <C1HJvn.FtK@mach1.wlu.ca> scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca (stephen cooper 9209 U) writes:
   >>The CRTC will not license them because they only broadcast one point of view.
   >
   >This is true.  The CRTC was asking people if they wanted channels such as
   >the all-Nazi channel or the all-racist channel or the all-satanist channel.
   >This is because they would also have to be granted licences if the
   >completely Christian channels were granted.

   This Canadian censorship bothers me.  If they can afford to broadcast
   on TV they ought to be allowed to.  I'd much rather skinhead Nazis
   waste their money on TV than more dangerous things.

At least you can say "fuck" on Canadian broadcast TV.

--
Stewart M. Clamen			Internet:    clamen@cs.cmu.edu
School of Computer Science		UUCP: 	     uunet!"clamen@cs.cmu.edu"
Carnegie Mellon University		Phone: 	     +1 412 268 2145
5000 Forbes Avenue			Fax:	     +1 412 681 5739
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891, USA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster)
Subject: Your hit parade
Organization: pubs
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:49:32 CST


I'm curious about how SWLers spend most of their listening time--what are your
most frequent frequencies?  This effect is a combination of program content that
you actually want to listen to (as opposed to just "catch"), and frequencies
that you can usually pick up well.  I'm just getting back to SWL, but I've
noticed I spend more than average time on these two:

   7255  Nigeria

   7270  Russia

What are your favorites?

Another question: is there a way to get the complete BBC schedule, short of
subscribing to their magazine?  I'm cheap and I already get too many magazines...

Chris Brewster
cb@cray.com

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: jtl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Joe Lynn)
Subject: Re: TIME SET-UP IN DX-390
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:37:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc.

In article <1993Jan24.023449.5484@sol.UVic.CA> siddique@active.UVic.CA (Intekhaab  Siddiquee) writes:
>Thanks to everyone who e-mailed me with their suggestions for buying a
>shortwave radio. I now own DX-390. How do I set up exact time on this?
>What I do now is that I press the digits for setting the time and
>wait for thhe sixth beep of time signal from BBC. As soon as I hear
>the sixth beep, I press the 'enter' button. But next time when I want
>to verify the time, I see that the time is not accurate.
>Any suggestions?


As a DX-390 owner, this is one thing that bugs the daylights out of me.

The only way to synchronize the seconds on this radio is to pull the
AA "backup" batteries, only to pop them (the last one, actually) back
in at the "zero" signal.

This puts you in a catch-22, of course, if you are using the radio
to pick up the very signal you're trying to synch up with.  What I
do is this:  I synchronize my watch with WWV, pull the batteries on
the DX-390, and pop them back in at the appropriate time, according
to my watch.

Evidently there is a workaround for this on the DX-440 (Sangean 803A),
but since the DX-390 has no "seconds" display, it's not applicable.

Good luck!


Joe Lynn
-- 
jtl@ddsw1.mcs.com
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: IF vs AF notch, Longwire antennas
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:25:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan26.002510.4721
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

I would like to add a couple of comments relating to recent threads in this
newsgroup.

For IF vs AF notch filters, it is important to note that the IF notch
is preferred for strong interference on top of weaker signals. The IF
notch actually removes its slice before the AGC detector. This prevents the
strong signal from desensitizing the receiver's gain to the point that the
weaker signal is below the noise floor of the receiver.

AF notch filters will only remove their slice from the demodulated signal 
thereby suffering in the scenario mentioned above.

------

Remember that a longwire antenna must be "long" in relation to the wavelength
of the signals it is intended receive in order to be classified as a 
longwire antenna. So a 100 foot wire would be equal to the wavelength of a 
9.75mhz signal. I will not pass judgement on how many wavelengths are needed
for the antenna to be considered "long" relative to wavelength, but one
can quickly see that if someone wanted to build a longwire for deep 
tropicals at 3.2mhz (110meter wavelength > 330 feet) that we could be talking 
about a long piece of wire. One person mentioned 4 wavelengths as being
correct!

So the point is that longwires are not just a long piece of wire, they are long
relative to target wavelength.

-- 
Richard Crisp                 Cupertino, Ca.                crisp@netcom.com
(415) 903-3832 wk                                         (408) 253 4541 fax
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: bchappe@nswc.navy.mil (Brett Chappell x1567)
Subject: Sangean ATS-803A & Sony 2010
Reply-To: bchappe@nswc.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:33:01 GMT

I'm new to the short wave world, and I'm thinking about buying
a portable receiver. I've heard a lot of talk about the Sony 2010,
and Passport '92 gives it four stars. Passport also gives the Sangean
803A a good review.

Are the 803A owners pleased with their receiver? What are some of the
advantages and disadvantages, as compared to the Sony 2010? I know the
2010 is supposed to be at the top in portable receivers, but is it
worth the bucks?

Also, does anyone know of a good mail order source for either of the 
receivers?

Thanks,

Brett



Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: poll@patty.gud.siemens.co.at (Nikolaus Pollak)
Subject: faq-file existing ?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:54:36 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


Does there exist any faq-file for this newsgroup ?

+---------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
| Nikolaus Pollak			|	SIEMENS Austria Corp.   |
| Email: poll@siemens.co.at	 	|	PSE 2354                |
| Phone: +43-1-60171-5719		|	Gudrunstr. 11.          |
| Fax:   +43-1-60171-5712		|	A-1100 Wien / AUSTRIA   |
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From: lrk@k5qwb.lonestar.org (Mr. Lyn R. Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Sounds like Haiti patrol to me.
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:48:29 GMT
Organization: Radio Amateur k5qwb

cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume) writes:

>    All of these co-ords. were within 75 miles of Port Au Prince. Later
> 1717 called in to ask if contact #15 had lights. 1717 (female) was told
> that it was a radar contact. Since CG aircraft are numbered like 1717
> this sounds like a ship and aircraft team looking for boat people.
>    After leaving the radio for a couple of hours I came back to hear 
> a different callsign which was identifying itself as 1719 ( the cutter
> continued to call it 1717) And the cutter notifying 1717/1719 that it
> was headed back to Gitmo(Guantanimo Bay).
>    Sounds like Haiti to me. Am I wrong?

Yep. Sounds like you're right.

BTW, the Hatian Migrant Interdiction Operation (HMIO) is not new, it 
was going on back when the Coast Guard was doing their RTTY in the 
clear. At least ten years ago.


-------------------------------------------------------------------

73,            internet     | lrk@k5qwb.lonestar.org
Lyn Kennedy    packet radio | K5QWB @ N5LDD.#NTX.TX.US.NA
               pony express | P.O. Box 5133, Ovilla, TX, USA 75154

---I would like e-mail from people monitoring for news gathering---
From: bz649@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth V Zichi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: American Commercial Shortwave Broadcasting
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:16:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


WRNO was the first US commercial broadcaster since WWII?  What
was WNYW, chopped liver?  Never did trust PopCom.... but then
what do you expect from a rag with a survivalist on every cover?
;)
-- 
73  //kv zichi  bz649@Cleveland.FreeNet.edu
From: pjd@siemens.com (dr. funk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: R8 vs. Sangean
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:16:44 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ, USA


Ah, rcw@whitestar.com asks about the relative merits of the R8
versus the Sengean 803A.

I own both radios. I`ve had a lot of fun with the Sangean even
without a good antenna. I listen mainly to military comms (SSB)
and have gotten to know and live with its BFO drift. Nine memory
locations is a drag and "scan mode" requires fast fingers. I found
that I could always bring in the power house SW stations. If you
are a casual listener and want broadcast AM/FM to boot, it's a
good radio.

A few months ago I added the Drake R8. I am using a Datong AD-270
indoor active dipole, so the antenna was an upgrade, too. Here are
the chief advantages over the 803A (without getting technical.)
  * No more safecracking the BFO! Hurray!
  * AM/LSB/USB/FM is a "cycle button." Lots of button pushing to
    change from LSB to USB. Boo!
  * R8 audio quality is better especially SW. No experience with an
    external speaker yet. Sync detect makes fading signals more
    pleasant to listen to. The tone control is totally useless.
  * The R8 notch effectively knocks out heterodynes. Made my spouse
    and family grateful.
  * The R8 has 100 memories in 10 banks and six scan modes. The squelch
    is marginally useful on HF. You can use the R8 knob to spin through
    the memory locations. A big hurray! Probably more useful than
    scanning.
  * 100 memories sounds like a lot. But, monitor GHFS, SAC, NORAD,
    FEMA, SAM and you're short already.
  * RS-232 is there when you eventually need it. This may be the way
    out of memory limitations as it would be possible to load up
    depending upon the target of the day.
Now the big question. Do you want to go after weak signals? During a
recent period of lousy prop, I used the 803A to monitor Andrews AFB
which normally bangs in S9. The 803A had difficulty copying Andy. The
R8 made Andy quite readable *and* could pull in aircraft over Somalia
weak-readable. (Forget Somalia on the 803A!) Sure I used the R8 preamp
and the antenna was better. But, the combination worked for me.

It was worth the extra money to me, but I have committed myself (and
my family would like to commit me :-) to radio as a hobby. If you are
not interested in utilities and will only use the R8 for shortwave,
I`d suggest a test ride. Drake was offering a free evaluation period
after the introduction of the R8. Is this program still underway?

-- 
paul j. drongowski                N2OQT
siemens corporate research inc    pjd@siemens.siemens.com
princeton, new jersey 08540       (609) 734-6547
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: jcarroll@gath.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: many
Originator: jcarroll@gath
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:12:48 CST


In article <1993Jan26.120425.5161@netcom.com>, crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.184502.12081@walter.cray.com> jcarroll@gath.cray.com (Jeff Carroll) writes:
> >
> >
> >>ECPA aside, it is pretty easy to modify an FM broadcast band radio to`
> >>allow reception of SCA signals. First of all you will need a second receiver,
> >>one that is capable of receiving FM signals and will tune below 100khz.
> >
> >aren't those pretty tough to find?
> 
> Well my NRD 525 and 535D will do this. Also my Kenwood R5000 will too. The Icom
> R71A can be tricked into doing it as well.
> 
> Tough to find? Maybe we should say easy to find but you will have to spend
> at least $500 to $600 to do it (on a used one that is).

Aah. I can cannibalize a lot of el cheapos for that price.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: poll@patty.gud.siemens.co.at (Nikolaus Pollak)
Subject: Re: PHILIPS AE 3905
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:58:48 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Michael Schuster (schuster@panix.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan19.083456.22822@siemens.co.at> poll@patty.gud.siemens.co.at (Nikolaus Pollak) writes:
: >I  got a PHILIPS AE 3905 World Receiver. Is it good enough to start 
: >dxing with it (It has the size of a cigarette-package but costs about
: >400 US$)
: >
: >1. Does anyone know this radio? . What do you think about it ?.
: 
: Someone on GEnie bought one from the Philips direct mail center in Tennessee
: (800-643-0288 for US residents, it costs $169).
: 
: He said it's rather insensitive and very prone to intermod and false images.
: It's OK for listening to the big powerful broadcasters, that's all.
: 

In the short time i have it, i could here stations in Brazil (Brasilia,
Sao Paulo) Radio Bagdad and Australia.
But i don't know if it is a challange to here them from Vienna/Europe.
The price-difference 400 to 169 $ is surprising for me, but
today all is possible.  

+---------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
| Nikolaus Pollak			|	SIEMENS Austria Corp.   |
| Email: poll@siemens.co.at	 	|	PSE 2354                |
| Phone: +43-1-60171-5719		|	Gudrunstr. 11.          |
| Fax:   +43-1-60171-5712		|	A-1100 Wien             |
+---------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: R8 vs. Sangean
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:05:40 GMT

In article <C1H9nw.IwD@siemens.com> pjd@siemens.com (dr. funk) writes:
+
+Now the big question. Do you want to go after weak signals? During a
+recent period of lousy prop, I used the 803A to monitor Andrews AFB
+which normally bangs in S9. The 803A had difficulty copying Andy. The
+R8 made Andy quite readable *and* could pull in aircraft over Somalia
+weak-readable. (Forget Somalia on the 803A!) Sure I used the R8 preamp
+and the antenna was better. But, the combination worked for me.

Ummmm.  You say the R8 with a better antenna could copy signals that
the Sangean with a worse antenna could not.  With two variables, you
are conveying zero information.  Hook the Sangean up to the better antenna
and compare.  (Note: I am not making any claims, just pointing out
something).
____________________________________________________________________________
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Return-Path: <@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU:SWL$L@CUVMB.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:26:43 U
Reply-To:     bsmorgan <bsmorgan@SDRC.COM>
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was SWL$L@CUVMB
From:         bsmorgan <bsmorgan@SDRC.COM>
Subject:      DX-380 Mods? (repost?)

                       Subject:                               Time:9:19 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          DX-380 Mods? (repost?)                 Date:1/25/93
Hi -
   Sorry if this is a duplicate posting, but I got a message back that my first
one was rejected????
   I have a Radio Shack DX-380 that I use for traveling (small, light, works
great!), but I was wondering if there are any mods people are doing?  In
particular, is there a way to add a BFO to receive SSB?
   Thanks,
       Brian
       brian.morgan@sdrc.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: bap@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Bret Pennington)
Subject: STS-50 downlink frequncies
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:31:55 GMT


I heard last night that STS-50 will have SW downlink frequencies.
Does anyone have these?

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: mjerosc@nmrsun.erenj.com (Michael Jerosch-Herold)
Subject: satellite reception
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:29:12 GMT


Some shortwave services like the german one in their frequency advisories
indicate that one can receive their shortwave service in North America
by satellite.  How does one accomplish this?  Can one use the same 
equipment to receive this like for satelite tv.  Are there scanners 
or communications receivers which go high enough in frequency to capture 
the satelite signal.  How large and how expensive are the antennas to 
receive this (the same type as for satelite tv?).  Any pointers are 
appreciated! Thank you!


Michael Jerosch-Herold
mjerosc@nmrsun.erenj.com
From: thompson@cactus.org (Charles Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: VLF Beacons
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:28:08 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx


Beacons that identify with two letters are LOM beacons located
at the outer marker of an ILS runway system.  Beacons that use
three letters can range in power from low (10w) to high  (2kW+)
and are generally used as a poor mans' VOR or as a backup
to VOR.  Any two letter i.d. is probably only running 10 watts
and could be within about 50 miles of your location of listening
at night or probably <20 miles if listening by day.

Use a directional loop to triangulate on the beacon.  This will
tip you as to whether it's at a nearby airport.


regards,
Charlie Thompson  WB4HVD
VLF'er
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Should I get a 2010 or a Drake?
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:11:16 GMT

In article <1jsf6iINNbj4@meaddata.meaddata.com> dem@meaddata.com (David Myers) writes:
+
+FEATURE			R8			2010
+
+Sync detector		Yes			Yes (better than the R8)

I disagree on this point.  Unlike you, I do not own a 2010, but
borrowed one.  It is my opinion the the R8 sync detector is as
good as the 2010.  Some people believe that the 2010 is better
because you can switch between upper and lower sidebands.  They
are unaware of how you can accomplisgh the same thing on an R8.
The R8 synch drifts towards the stronger sideband automatically.
to switch sidebands, tune towards it slightly with the passband
offset and it will lock onto that sideband.

+Notch filter		Yes (excellent)		No

Unfortunately, it is an audio notch filter, not an IF notch
filter.  But, better than none.

+Ease of use		Good			Excellent

I'd mark them both good.  Programming the 2010 without a manual
is not intuitive.

+Air band		No			Yes

For the R8, the answer s/be "extra cost option".

____________________________________________________________________________
Your life could always be worse. You could end up married to someone like me!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,soc.culture.canada
From: motani@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Atheist country?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:16:17 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17c by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: motani@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1993Jan26.125106.5410@infodev.cam.ac.uk> drukier@ioas09.ast.cam.ac.uk (Gordon Drukier) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.105014.1017@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rcj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Craig Jamieson) writes:
>>From: genef@netcom.com (Gene Fornario)
>>Subject: Why no Canadian Christian broadcasters?
>>Message-ID: <1993Jan15.043533.4606@netcom.com>
>>Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
>>References: <CB.93Jan14152343@tamarack13.timbuk>
>>
>>We have discussed religous or for the most part Christian broadcasters on
>>shortwave.  I have noticed that while US broadcast stations may have their
>>entire format Christian or gospel oriented, such is not the case in Canada.
>>I have a few good guesses why...but perhaps someone can give me a definite
>>answer.  I'm curious, that's all.
>>
>>Gene--
>>
>>-- 
>>genef@netcom.com
>>
>>
>I hope someone in Canada can bring us up to date on this, but when
>I left in November there were ongoing hearings before the CRTC on just
>this question. The short answer is that there are no Christian only broadcasters
>in Canada because the CRTC hasn't licensed any. With satellites, cable, etc.
>they have now invited applications from groups wanting to set up religious
>broadcasting stations and are considering what to do about them.
>
>

Actually, I believe that the reason you don't see any Canadian religious 
broadcasters on HF and very few on MW and FM is that the CRTC policy on licensing
religious broadcasters is that they have to have a balance of programming for
different religious persuasions. The CRTC will not license any single interest
religious broadcaster. This policy also holds true for TV licensing. Hence, the Vision
cable TV network has programming from and for many different religious persuasions.
There is an on-going dispute in one of the prairie provinces (Alberta or Saskatchewan,
I believe) with independent UHF Christian broadcasters who have set up an
unlicensed station which re-broadcasts a U.S. based Christian evangelical network.
The CRTC will not license them because they only broadcast one point of view.

________________________________________________________________________________
Muiz Motani
IBM Canada Lab                  motani@vnet.ibm.com
Distributed System Products
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: RSUMPERL@JAGUAR.ESS.HARRIS.COM (05991 SUMPERL RP)
Subject: Drake SW4A shortwave receiver
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:51:02 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Organization: Harris Information Systems Division

Greetings all...
 Can someone please post or email me their impressions of the Drake SW4A
shortwave receiver. I have a chance to purchase one and would like some
feedback on its performance.


                                      Thanks.
                                        Ray