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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Tiny Tafels
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 08:09:12

 Responding to Tom Lincoln's message that Mike Fisher (in the UK) will forward
 his tafel to the FIDOnet:

 Any person that has a Tiny Tafel (TT), that does not have access to a FIDOnet node,
 is welcome to forward their tafel to me to have it relayed to the FIDOnet.  My
 system will forward to the appropriate locations in the FIDOnet to have it
 entered into the Tafel Matching System (TMS).  There are two appropriate
 locations  within the FIDOnet that tafels should be: 1) at one of the TMS sites
 and 2) within the GENDATA conference.  The latter (GENDATA) is a conference
 similar to a newsgroup, that allows no discussion, queries or response.  Only
 TT's are circulated.

 Please utilize direct routed mail, rather than open ROOTS-L or soc.roots, as
 I do not (nor can-not) forward mail automatically that way.  If you have a PC
 or access to direct dial into a local BBS it would probably be easier and more
 efficient to submit your own TT.
 Robert Haack
 rdh@p242.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org
 ROOTS RELAY(ted)!


 * Origin: Roots RELAY(ted) (1:124/4115.242)
From: LWINSHIP@HAMP.HAMPSHIRE.EDU (Lawrence J. Winship, Hampshire College, Amherst, MA,
              USA)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Tiny Tafel of (no longer really tiny) Grace Cobb Winship
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:33:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: hamp.F71F23270E9F00274C
Reply-To: "Lawrence J. Winship, Hampshire College, Amherst, MA,
              USA" <LWINSHIP@HAMP.HAMPSHIRE.EDU>
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This TT, prepared for my 1 year old daughter, Grace,
pretty well represents my current research interests.

I have to share:  many collateral Winships, Cobbs and fewer
Bibbys'

I need: Trimbles, Gilroys, and especially Donkins.

Thanks in advance for any connections and help.

N Lawrence Johnson Winship
A 1 Maplewood Drive
A Amherst, MA 01002
A USA
S Internet
R E-mail:
R LWinship@Hamp.Hampshire.edu
F Family History System (C:WINSHIP .NAM)
Z 26    T=59  F=1123
B100 1775:1919 Bibby\Parbold, ENG/New York, NY, USA
B635           Berdan
C100 1633*1924 Cobb\Swanage Parish, ENG/Oneonta, NY, USA
C360 1830*1830 Cowdrey
C410           Clapp
C642 1858 1858 Carless
D525 1909*1949 Donkin\New York, NY, USA/Schenectady, NY
F200           Fish
G350           Gaden\RUSSIA/RUSSIA
G360 1805:1805 Guthrie
G460 1839*1893 Gilroy\Sligo, IRELAND
H400 1859:1859 Hill\Brooklyn, NY, USA/Brooklyn, NY, USA
H435           Haldeman
H610           Harvey
J525           Johnson\Binghampton, NY
K620 1853 1853 Kresge
M463 1782 1782 Mellard\Newcastle-under-Lyme/Newcastle-under-Lyme
S315 1826 1826 Stevens
S635     :     Sheridan
T651 1893*1893 Trimble\Passaic, NJ, USA/Passaic, NJ, USA
W300 1743*1743 White
W420           Willis\Bridgewater, MA
W425 1812 1812 Wilson\Liverpool, ENG/Liverpool, ENG
W452           Williams
W460           Wheeler
W521 1739*1991*Winship\Boston, MA, USA/Amherst, MA, USA
W 11 Sep 1992   

Thanks again.
Larry Winship, LWinship@hamp.Hampshire.edu
From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Pennsylvania Colonial Records
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:30:19 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I recently bought a copy of "Index to Pennsylvania's Colonial Records
Series" by Dr. Mary Dunn.  Since most of the 16 volumes of the series
have never been indexed, trying to locate a specific name can be pretty
frustrating.  Time permitting, I'm willing to look up individual names
if you'll email me directly.
 ========================================================================
 |Don Wiggins                         |            _Researching_        |
 |306 East Franklin                   |       WIGGINS, STALEY, HALL,    |
 |Fisher, IL  61843-9440              |       BIRKHIMER, MCINTIRE,      |
 |email:  wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |       PARK(E), CHANCE, MUNRO....|
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:05:30 EDT
Reply-To:     "Sharon L Palmateer" <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
From:         "Sharon L Palmateer" <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Which One Do I Use?
Comments: To: roots-l@ndsuvm1.bitnet

     I need some advice and the vastness of this group is wonderful.

     My husband's g-grandparents immigrated from Ireland during the Great
Famine in the 1840s.  Their names were Patrick and Mary Lynch.  When looking
through _The Famine Immigrants_, I have found about 25 references to Mary in
each volume, Patrick has about 20.

     My problem - how do I begin to narrow this search?  Their first child was
born in NY state in 1852.  Mary was born in 1827, Patrick in 1826.  I suspect
they married in Ireland, but I don't know for sure and I have no clues if they
came over together or not.  Granted, some people can be ruled out by age, but
isn't there an easier way?

     Once I can identify which ones I'm looking for, how can I figure out what
brought them to Greene County, NY and what was their path?

     Any assistance will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Sharon
From: Brian.Mavrogeorge@p0.f30.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Mavrogeorge)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Brother's Keeper
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:31:13 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/30.0 - Roots(SF!), San Francisco CA

Brothers Keeper is frequently updated and up until very 

recently, the author kept the same name for the zip files.

He now does updates and the date of the update is in the 

file title. The current is BK5A9208 etc.

 

It is available for download from Roots(SF!) 415-584-0697

to first time callers.



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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:59:35 -0400
Reply-To:     Bill Green <ak385@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
From:         Bill Green <ak385@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fees for records in other countries
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.Edu

>Why don't you just send cash?  Your local bank should be able to sell
>you pounds in ounce quantity without charging you tons.

Never, never send cash through the mail.  Not that we're dishonest, it's
just that it's not a good idea.  With a billion and a half pieces of
mail a day going through machines, there's the possibility a few peices
may be lost or damaged.

On the other hand, if you do decide to send it in cash, send it
registered mail.  The cost is cheap, and it's what's called "accountable
mail", which means that everyone who handles it has to sign for it.
Irreplaceable items, such as cremated remains and rare coins are usually
sent registered.  (Yes, ashes!  It's a wierd feeling to deliver a small
package that contains the remains of someone's loved one.)



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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:34:14 EDT
Reply-To:     "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
From:         "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Clearing my "good" name (was re: LDS & GENEALOGY
Comments: To: LIBSJP@VM.BYU.EDU, ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

What's to clear?  Everybody rushed your defense.  I think it is clear
that all of us are greatful to the LDS people.  I don't think anyone
has ever had problems dealing with them.  And my dead ancestors are
certainly not being hurt.  So just kep giving us info when asked, and
999 out of 1000 will be grateful.
jp
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: VITAL-MD question
Summary: how can this be?
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:35:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CompuData Inc.

I just downloaded the text about MD genealogical records etc.
Below are some extracts from this document and my question is really if I'm 
not understanding something properly. Birth records can not be obtained after 
1892 without a parent's or court's permission? But later the article describes 
in detail how to get these records up to today. What gives? Or are these 
always direct children doing the research?

                        ********
[Extract}
Although Baltimore City began recording births and deaths in 1875, all
Maryland counties began civil registration of births and deaths in 1898.
These records and accompanying indexes are at the Division of Vital Records
(see address below).  There are restrictions on who may obtain copies of these
records.                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Birth records within the last 100 years may be obtained only by the
individual named on the certificate, or a parent, legal guardian, or
authorized representative.  Authorized representatives must submit a court
order or a notarized statement signed by either parent or the person named on
the certificate.

Records of deaths within the last 20 years are restricted to surviving
relatives or authorized representatives.

The Maryland State Archives has microfilm copies of the records and most of
the indexes.  For genealogical purposes, you can obtain the information in the
restricted records from the Archives.

Obtaining official copies.  Official (certified) copies of all birth records
and death records since 1968 (since 1875 for Baltimore City) can be requested
by sending a stamped self-addressed envelope and a fee of $3.00 to:
[end of extract]
 ******

Am I reading this right or what?

Also, if one has no idea as to when a marriage was consummated, I mean was
recorded :-), do they look this up for you? And how would I find birthdates of 
children?  From Census records that span the years?


fred


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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:23:10 -0400
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From:         morton@GW.WMICH.EDU
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/roots-l
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:38:24 PDT
Reply-To:     Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      Checking out Thomas Fleming of Virginia (1616)...
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

The following is asserted:

"Sir Thomas Fleming, son of "the Earl of Wigton" (? the 3rd Earl) of
Wigtonshire, Scotland emigrated to the Colony of Virginia in 1616, and
was the Pioneer Ancestor of the Fleming Family of VA and KY and of
many of those in Chester, Northumberland and Clinton Cos. PA. A
grandson removed, in the latter part of the 17th century, to Chester Co.
PA; purchased and located upon lands in that County which were
known as the London Cross-Roads."

Does anyone know of this family?

Tom
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:09:52 -0400
Reply-To:     "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@GIDNEY.OSWEGO.EDU>
From:         "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@GIDNEY.OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject:      General help
Comments: To: Roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Having spent the summer researching diligently, I've come to the point
where I think the resources of the list will help.  HOWEVER, past
experience indicates it t'ain't is easy as it sounds.  I've had very poor
luch with downloading and unzipping files.  Do have Pkunzip and Pkfix.

>Could someone please tell me how to determine what the materials are in
the roots-l files, Simtel20, prior to downloading.  Do I have to Telnet
first and read them? to know what I want?

>What is Gedom? Is this also an FTP.

If someone could send a basic explanation of these I would appreciate it.
I did retrieve a list of files a while back but couldn't tell was in them.
Are any of the files information data? or are they how to?

And a last comment.  Re the LDS files.  I've never used them since I
cannot locate in the phone book an LDS site  reportedly in the greater
Syracuse NY area however the comments I saw (perhaps I missed something)
seemed to be related more to technology than to criticism of the church.
It's great that the LDS allows anyone to use its Family History Centers
and hopefully I'll locate the one here soon.

Thanks for your help on Roots-L, Gedcom and  Simtel.

Chris Darby
From: v045100@otis1.stortek.com (Jennifer Farnham)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Info for some not others.....
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:16:44 GMT
Reply-To: v045100@otis1.UUCP (Jennifer Farnham)
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.


The following is a list of names i have some data on due 
to the researching of my own name... i have birthdates,
and marriages, and places of the following names...

I have more info on others and very little on the others...

But who knows... if you see one you need info on, mail me
at "v045100@query.stortek.com".

I'll mail you back with what i've got.

jenny
storage technology
boulder,co

------ start here --------


ABBOTT
ALLERTON
ARMSTRONG
AUSTIN
AYERS
AYRES
BACON
BAKER
BARTLETT
BENNETT
BRAGDON
BRAUCHER
BREWSTER
BRIGHTMAN
BUTLER
CHARLESON
CHASE
CHILVERS
CLARK
COLLIER
COMSTOCK
COOKE
COUGHLIN
COX
CRONIN
DAVIS
DAY
DEPPEN
DICKSON
DUNN
EOFF
FARNHAM
FARNAM
FLINT
FORD
FREEMAN
FRISBEE
FULLER
GARDNER
GEISEKER
GERTNER
GOWIN
GROFF
GUNTER
HAILE
HALL
HAMMOND
HANCOCK
HARNDEN
HARNER
HEARN
HERNEY
HILL
HOLEMAN
HOLT
HORN
HOWARD
HUMPHREY
HUTCHINSON
JACOBSEN
JOHNSTON 
JUDD
KEGG
GEGLEY
KEHM
KEISTER
KEYES
KIDD
KINLEY
KISER
KREINER
KRENKE
KURTZ
LANDIS
LAUVER
LAVIGNE
LINCH
LOOMIS
LOVEJOY
LUMPP
LUTHER
MAGINN
MAKEMSON
MAY
MCKENDRY
MCLANE
MEYER
MILLER
MINIER
MORTON
MOULTON
MULLINAX
MUNN
MCKNIGHT
NELSON
NEWCOMB
OLDHAM
PANE
PARKER
PARTRIDGE
PAUL
PHILIPP
PRENCE
PRESTON
PROSPERIE
REED
ROOL
ROUSE
ROYER
RUSSELL
SHADA
SIMUS
SINSEL
SPENCER
STERLING
STOKES
SUTTER
SWAIN
SWARTOUT
TEMPLIN
TURNER
UMAGAT
VEAL
WADSWORTH
WALLIN
WASON
WHITE
WHITLOCK
WIEGAND
WILSON
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Much ado about Scotch...
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:32:49 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <ROOTS-L%92091403530658@VM1.NODAK.EDU> "G.MULVENNA" <OSG1688@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK> writes:
>Tom and Dick discuss:
>>>Whiskey is Scotch, People are Scottish or Scots!
>>>
>I know that Scotch-Irish
>is the popular terminology in America, but I would encourage people to
>start using the term Scots-Irish.  This "label" is now well established
>on this side of the Atlantic in places like the Ulster-American Folk
>Park in County Tyrone and has superseded the usage of Scotch-Irish.
>

Certainly is reasonable, except for one minor difficulty. If you
want to look up the literature, particularly here in America, the
old terminology holds and is in all of the titles.

	      __o          o__      o__      o__      o__
	    _ \<,_        _.>/ _   _.>/ _   _.>/ _   _.>/ _
	   (_)/ (_)      (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_)

Now we should discuss why some Scotch is colorless.. and not of an
amber color... or why, as a distilate, it has any color at all.

Tom
From: Steve.Hayes@p5.f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Steve Hayes)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: PAF Text Editing
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 01:41:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7101/22.5 - Novell User Group, Pretoria RSA

On <07 Sep 1992 21:23> Walter Bays (5:7104/2) said to All :

 WB>I went to one meeting of my local PAF users group and was surprised to
 WB>find that most of the club time went not into genealogy related topics,
 WB>but to sharing work-arounds to archaic difficult to use MS-DOS
 WB>software.  PAF/Windows has to be one of the most important projects for
 WB>amateur genealogy at LDS - whether they know it or not.

Could you give some specific examples?



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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:50:33 CDT
Reply-To:     Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      GENEALOG: New Files Uploaded
Comments: To: "(Genealogy Information)" <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

I have just uploaded the following UPDATED vitals files for these states.

  GENEALOG VITAL-TX  State Vitals - Texas            32434 bytes
  GENEALOG VITAL-AR  State Vitals - Arkansas         17972
  GENEALOG VITAL-KY  State Vitals - Kentucky         17638
  GENEALOG VITAL-NY  State Vitals - New York         20966
  GENEALOG VITAL-PA  State Vitals - Pennsylvania     20296

These new - UPDATED files are available now.

GENEALOG is an area on the LISTSERV computer which is used for storage
of many, many textual files which pertain to genealogy.

You may request a listing of the file be mailed to you by simply
sending the following line to: LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu as the only
text of a message.

/files roots-L

It normally only takes about ten minutes for the LISTSERV computer to
reply, sending you a message with the entire listing of files.

(Please note, there is NO SPACE between the slash and the word files)

You may pick & choose the filenames of interest and to request
a file just simply send the following line back
to: LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu as the only text of a message.

GET GENEALOG filename

   (please replace the "filename" with the filename of interest)

Cliff Manis         K4ZTF        Manis/Manes Family History
Researching: MANIS MANES WHITEHORN CANTER BIRD FRANCIS NEWMAN
USMAIL:   P. O. Box 33937, San Antonio, Texas  78265-3937
BITNET:   cmanis%csoftec.csf.com@NDSUVM1  Caretaker of GENEALOG
INTERNET: cmanis@csoftec.csf.com
 ! !  Generally, It is easier to obtain forgiveness than permission  ! !
  Standard Disclaimer:  We are not associated with anyone. (PERIOD). (.)
From: Brian.Mavrogeorge@p0.f30.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Mavrogeorge)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: How Do I Create A TINY TAFEL?
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:29:11 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/30.0 - Roots(SF!), San Francisco CA

The only difference between 1.6 and 1.7 specifications is that the

geographic locations are not required.

 

To be absolutely accurate - the version 1.6 TMS software did not

check for the presence of anything past the surname. Version

1.7 of TMS requires that the surname be followed by an / or \

and then a string of characters. 

 

That translates into geographic information required.



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From: Brian.Mavrogeorge@p0.f30.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Mavrogeorge)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Tiny Taffel
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:35:13 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/30.0 - Roots(SF!), San Francisco CA

Michael, I would like very much to put your tiny tafel into the

Tafel Matching System database. But, it does not conform to the

standard format. All dates must be numbers, no special charactes

allowed. If you will fix it and put it back here I will capture

it. If you also indicate four surname you are interested in and 

the date, I will send you a report of other people working on

the same names who also have a tafel in the system.



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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:29:00 CST
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From:         RESIDENT BUM <DASCHULTE%TINY@MSUS1.BITNET>
Subject:      A tiny Tiny-Tafel from Tiny

N Darrell A. Schulte
A Darrell A. Schulte
A St. Johns University
A P.O. Box 1313
A Collegeville, Minnesota 56321
T (612) 363-2386
S daschulte%tiny@msus1.msus.edu
D 3/Macintosh/400
F Tiny Tafel for the Mac 1.0
R Dads side - GGG Grandfathers
Z 8
S430 1804 1992 Schulte\Oldenberg, Germany/Minnesota
C216 1817 1902 Caspers\Trier, Germany/Minnesota
N300 1783 1992 Nathe\Kruberg, Sauerland(Germany)/Minnesota
S365 1800*1955*Stroeing\Germany/Minnesota
B650 1816 1992 Braun\Budesheim, Prussia(Germany)/Minnesota
M563 1800*1909*Minerath\Coblenz, Germany/Minnesota
S516 1821 1992 Schoenberg\Volkesfeld, Germany/Minnesota
G632 1832 1992 Gerads\Prussia/Minnesota
W 08 Sep 1992
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Using the LDS database
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:10:37 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <MN24294.715793624.cheviot@newcastle.ac.uk> Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>In recent correspondence on this topic there was a note from Tom Lincoln
>about the LDS microfilm service. As I recall it, Tom said that the LA LDS
>Library provided rental microfilms at a charge of $2 and allowed copies to
>be purchased for $6.

Perhaps I didn't state it clearly.. The rental (or fee or whatever) is
for USE at the LDSGL in their facility. For a six dollar donation, they
obtain a permanent copy for their library, which can be used there.

As their library is (luckily) very close, I perhaps did not make the
distinction clear enough. (For $5.00 you can park at UCLA)

Tom
From: eldon@TENET.EDU (John Carroll)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: John Ford
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:28:49 GMT
Reply-To: John Carroll <eldon@TENET.EDU>
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Comments: cc: Tom Lincoln <lincoln@RAND.ORG>

Looked it up. Grolliers says John Ford was the name adopted by Sean
Aloysius O'Feeny. That's pretty close. I believe *that* was the name used
for directing "The Quiet Man", which I give five stars*****.

===========================================================================
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1503 Hillcrest Dr.
Jacksonville, TX 75766
===========================================================================
Researching: Carroll, Bailey, Hildebrand, Daniel, Bowman, Martin, Gisch,
                    Scammahorn/Schermerhorn, Mouser, Dipnew, Davis, & Brown
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:21:22 CDT
Reply-To:     Georgia <WAYNE@UWF.BITNET>
From:         Georgia <WAYNE@UWF.BITNET>
Subject:      Where are you?

I've heard nothing from Roots-l for two days.  What is the problem?
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Via: uk.ac.queens-belfast.vax2; Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:37:38 +0100
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:37:00 GMT
Reply-To:     "G.MULVENNA" <OSG1688@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK>
From:         "G.MULVENNA" <OSG1688@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK>
Subject:      Problems with LISTSERVer database search jobs?
Comments: To: ROOTS-L <ROOTS-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU>

Is anyone aware of any problems with LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU affecting
database research requests?  I have sent off a couple of search requests
in the past few days without any response.

Normally this LISTSERVer is extremely fast, responding within a matter of
minutes.  What's up?

Obviously I am having no problem posting messages to ROOTS-L.  I get a
prompt response from LISTSERV acknowledging successful distribution of
my message.

Gerry Mulvenna (osg1688@v2.qub.ac.uk)
Belfast, Ireland