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From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Re: Tim Powers, Deity extroidinaire
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 09:48:10 GMT

I would suggest:
	
	The Anubis Gates -- probably his best.  Hard to put down
	The Drawing of the Dark -- Very high adventure, battle of good and
				evil, but taken with humour.
	Dinner at Deviant's Palace -- disturbing but good.

I enjoyed, but not as much, On Stranger Tides and The Stress of Her Regard.
That may be my SF over fantasy prejudice (although Drawing is fantasy) but it
shows how much I like Powers to say I read his fantasies.

	Forsake the Sky is not up to scratch.  I think it's a pre-first novel
	that he redid and got published after he became famous with Anubis
	Gates, but I could be wrong.
-- 
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: James Schmitz
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:59:12 GMT

You left out "The Eternal Frontiers" -- by far his weakest novel --
and a good number of short stories, many of which were collected in
"A Pride of Monsters".

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   Aphorism is better than none.

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From: e92_anh@vaxkab.lne.kth.se ()
Subject: Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!
Reply-To: e92_anh@vaxkab.lne.kth.se ()
Organization: School of EE, Royal Institute of Technolgy
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:34:09 GMT

Well, we have Arthur Charles Clarke's "The City And The Stars" in which
the City Computer is even more intelligent than humans. And then there's
Frederick Pohl's Heechee-saga (talkative holograms. 'Einstein' for
instance!)

Right now i can't think of any more, but i got the feeling that the
genre is almost flooding with highly intelligent machines...
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Subject: Tim Powers
From: rwilley@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Hrothgar)
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:04:37 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

From memory i can recall the following books by Powers

	The Drawing of the Dark
	The Anubis Gates
	Dinner at Deviant's Place
	The Stress of Her Regard
	The Last Call

i would recommend all of these books very highly.  The Last Call is
probably the strongest of his works.  I think Dinner at Deviants is
most likely the weakest, but still worth reading.  Powers is one of those few
authors wo I actually feel is worth purchasing in hardback.  For those of you
who really like his work, i would also recommend the follwong authors
Michael Shea - "Nifft the Lean"
Robert Holdstock - "Mythago Woods"
James Blaylock - "The Last Coin"
	(Power's college roomie, btw)

				richard
	rwilley@eagle.wesleyan.edu
From: uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao)
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Subject: Re: The Wheel of Time Series (spoilers)
Keywords: Spoilers
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:01:57 GMT
Reply-To: uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu
Organization: U.C. Santa Barbara

In <1992Nov11.210117.5326@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>No.  Rand is Elayne's and Gawyn's cousin on the mother's side:  Morgase
>was closest to the throne when Rand's mother disappeared without leaving
>a daughter.  Galad shares Elayne's and Gawyn's *father*, who is not
>presumed to be closely related to Tigraine.

Oh god, its like Aiel-naming... first-brother or 2nd-sister...

>In the first book, when we learn Lan's history, we are told that the
>traitress who brought down his kingdom fled with her young son Isam.
>Other evidence makes it clear that Lord Luc is some combination of
>Luc and Isam -- probably with a Forsaken thrown in.

I hope not, there aren't evough Forsaken left.  out of 9, 6 are accounted
for (ravhin, sammael, asmodeus, lanfear, mogdhien, and the woman who lusts
after men and is only briefly mentioned).  Its also very unlikely a forsaken
is gonna root around the 2 rivers, isn't it?  They tend to be very
ambitious.

I have a few q's after re-reading the book...

1) In the 1st one, at the end, a capitalized voice talks in Rands mind (?),
saying basically "This is not the place, the chosen must decide, blah, blah".
Who the hell was this?  It sounded neutral or good, definitely not 
malovelent.  Was this "The Creator"?  It reminded me more of something like
Eddings "Light Side".  Its a pity the Eye/World was used up in the
beginning, I suppose the Trolloc/Fade army and Aginor were the greatest
threats mankind had faced so far (well, I'm doubtful) but the implication
that there was enough power to shatter the Dark One's prison or patch it
forever...

2) Anyone have any thoughts about The Armies of the Night, which the
   Seanchan fought in their homeland?  Or what about the lands across
   the Aiel Waste (briefly mentioned in TSR).  How extensive is the
   world?  It seems to me at LEAST one of the forsaken should be trying
   to control events in each of these places, they sound quite large
to me.  Its nice how Jordan is slowly expanding the world, first the
mainland, then the Aiel waste, then the fringes of the ocean.

--
parik rao				          prao@cs.ucsb.edu, rao@cmc.com
            Bush, Bush, he's our man, if he can't do it, Quayle can!
From: advax@reg.triumf.ca (A.Daviel)
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Subject: Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 14:10 PST
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>In article <3741@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>>
>>Hello all:
>>
>>I need some help....  I'm looking for examples in fiction literature
>>of super sophisticated communicative computers a la HAL. That is,
>>computers that talk and communicate like humans.  

Aivas in McCaffrey's All the Weyrs of Pern
Valentina in Valentina by Delaney and (?)
Zorac in Blake's 7 the British TV series. (Also the other one, a plexiglass 
box I can't remember the name of)

--
 Andrew Daviel, Vancouver, Canada
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Who Was "The Fisher King"?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:49:19 GMT

Sometimes also called the Sinner King.
-- 
If it's not on fire, it's a software problem.
From: jkiparsk@reed.edu (Jonathan Kiparsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Stephen Brust's best
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:17:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov10.011721.28438
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Nov9.005012.12808@eecs.nwu.edu> ian@nasser.eecs.nwu.edu (Ian Sutherland) writes:
>I'd be interested to hear how many people feel that the Vlad Taltos
>books represent Brust's best.  I'd say that "To Reign in Hell" is his
>best by quite a long shot.

Personally, I think The Sun, The Moon, and the Stars is far and away his best.
Considering how good the Taltos series is, that's saying a hell of a lot. 
After the Taltos books(I could rank them individually, but I'd have to take
the time to figure out which was which)(I really liked 'em all) I'd put
Pheonix Guards, and Brokedown Palace(depends on my mood, but they're close on
the Taltos stuff) and then TRIH and Cowboy Feng's, both of which I found 
distressingly mediocre. I also really dug Gypsy. In fact, aside from To Reign
in Hell and Cowboy Feng's, I think I can recommend everything he's done.
-jon
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From: blum@medici.ils.nwu.edu (Dan Blum)
Subject: Re: SF Book Stores?
Reply-To: blum@ils.nwu.edu
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:52:55 GMT

Moonstone converted to a mail-order only operation several years ago,
then closed entirely (at least, that's what I heard).

--
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blum@ils.nwu.edu   1890 Maple Ave., Evanston, IL 60201   708-467-2306

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From: tamossel@cs.vu.nl (Mossel TAK)
Subject: Re: Looking for author/title of short story
Keywords: Help
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:51:28 GMT

tamossel@cs.vu.nl (Me) writes:

>Hiya. Some time ago, I read a short story about a man who programmed a 
>computer to process a prayer over and over, like a Buddhist prayer-wheel.
>Eventually, something happened. This is all I can remember, So if anyone
>can help me with the title, author, where to find it, or even the plot,
>I'd be very grateful...

Ok! Many kind people have posted an answer to my question, or have e-mailed me...
The consensus seemed to be that the story was "The nice billion names of God",
by A.C. Clarke.
At first I didn't think that was the story, but hey, if so many people say it,
it's got to be right, right? :

Thanks to all you good souls out there who helped me!
			Krijn.
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Subject: Re: Stephen Brust and Alexandre Dumas
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 19:11:42 -0600

 DB> BTW, is it just me, or was _Phoenix Guards_ badly 
 DB> edited?  People switching names and lines, two 
 DB> different Dragon Heirs, etc.

Well, I will confess that I haven't reread PHOENIX GUARDS since I read it in
manuscript (I did buy the book, though), but I didn't notice such things in the
manuscript version, and usually I'm a boring pedant about them.
  
Can you be more specific?  With respect to the two Dragon Heirs, is it possible
you're confusing the time Paarfi is writing about with the time he's living in? 
He does refer to both, I seem to remember.

 * Origin: Beth's Point: Minneapolis, MN (1:282/341.5)
From: brand@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Jeff Brandenburg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:05:31 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <9NOV199214104894@reg.triumf.ca> advax@reg.triumf.ca (A.Daviel) writes:
>>>I need some help....  I'm looking for examples in fiction literature
>>>of super sophisticated communicative computers a la HAL. That is,
>>>computers that talk and communicate like humans.  
>
>Valentina in Valentina by Delaney and (?)

_Valentina_ by Joseph H. Delaney and Marc Stiegler (Baen, 1984, ISBN
0-671-55916-8).  Stiegler also addressed migration of human minds to
machines in "The Gentle Seduction," appearing in the collection of the
same title (Baen, 1990, ISBN 0-761-69887-7).  I believe Stiegler is now
with the Foresight Institute; he was associated with Project Xanadu for
a while.  His interest in hypermedia and nanotech comes through in his
writing.

There's also a cute but brief treatment of transcendent (much smarter
than and *different from* humans) AI in _Dome_ by Michael Reaves and
Steve Perry (Berkeley, 1987, ISBN 0-425-09560-6).

	-jeffB (Jeff Brandenburg, Va. Tech CS)
From: esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Tim Powers, Deity extroidinaire
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:52:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Back-References: <1jOHll#3kclk97CPlVf7FT9Hx8nSp7h=esr@snark.thyrsus.com>

In <1992Nov06.094810.7094@clarinet.com> Brad Templeton wrote:
> That may be my SF over fantasy prejudice (although Drawing is fantasy) but it
> shows how much I like Powers to say I read his fantasies.

Interesting point here, and another indicator of Powers's genre-busting style.
I too prefer SF to fantasy, in general.  However, I consider Powers's work in
general to have most of the virtues that I value in SF and don't generally
find in fantasy --- like SF, it convinces primarily by good world-building, by
an accretion of logical detail, rather than by whomping you on the noggin with
fascinating archetypes (though it does the latter, too).

I'd say there is thus a serious case for regarding Power's "fantasies" as a
particularly dark, strong form of technology-of-magic SF (a subgenre which,
historically, has usually been associated with humorous or satirical intent).

This is not just semantic hairsplitting; it predicts that Powers's stuff in
general should have a much stronger appeal than most fantasy to people whose
basic allegiance is to hard SF of the traditional "puzzle-solving" Campbellian
vein.  I know that I fit this description, and I suspect you do too.

BTW, as an example of similarly excellent high fantasy that does *not* fit this
description, I can do no better than to point at Jack Vance's _Lyonesse_.
-- 
					Eric S. Raymond <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>
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From: duncan@mpr.ca (Nick Duncan)
Subject: Re: Who is Dave Duncan
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:42:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.052745.14040@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>Is the Dave Duncan who wrote "The Seven Swords" and "A Man of His Word"
>the same David Duncan that was writing sf in the fifties and sixties?

Nope. He's a new one. Dave Duncan started writing SF/Fantasy about 6
or so years ago, before that he was a Geologist (and father of three
brilliant children :-)

Nick Duncan

PS: The first book of the sequel to Man of his Word is out in hardcover.
Look for The Cutting Edge in your neighborhood bookstores.
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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Spider Robinson's latest
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:35:49 GMT

In article <1df064INN1rk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley) writes:
> 
> I'm a big fan of Spider Robinson's writing...
> For that matter I'm a bit disappointed that all of Spider's
> recent books have been sequels or spin-offs of earlier books.
> I wish he would come up with something entirely original.
> Anyone else have any knowledge of his future writing plans,
> or comments on his stuff?

Spider and Jeanne Robinson were at Windycon XIX last weekend.
Forthcoming are:
	Starmind, sequel to Stardance and Starseed (by Spider and Jeanne)
	The Callahan Touch, about Jake's new bar (Spider only)

Sorry to disappoint, but yes these are more sequels.

Joel
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From: S.S.B.Glover@bradford.ac.uk (SSB GLOVER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Hamilton and space opera
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:22:39 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
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hyde@ac.dal.ca wrote:
: 
: 	The stories and novels of Hamilton's last few years (1960's)
: 	went far beyond the 30's 40's style space opera.  I can
: 	remember the critics of the time commenting on his radical
: 	change of style.  There's often plenty of action in his
: 	later works (e.g. "Battle for the stars") but the main
: 	characters are more introspective, and questions of good
: 	and evil are not so easily resolved.

Doesn't Damon Knight address this point in "A century of Science Fiction"
(the first hardback sf book that was ever MINE! -- and I've still not tracked
down all the stories ... especially the Laumer quoted)?

Basically, EH was writing this wonderfully mature stuff, but his editor was
bouncing it all the time and it was only on his editor/agent's death that
he was able to get away from planet wrecking..

Steve Glover
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From: kennethm@cc.gatech.edu (Kenneth Moorman)
Subject: Re: Who is Dave Duncan
Reply-To: kennethm@cc.gatech.edu (Kenneth Moorman)
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:02:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.174211.1828@mprgate.mpr.ca> duncan@mpr.ca (Nick Duncan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.052745.14040@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>>Is the Dave Duncan who wrote "The Seven Swords" and "A Man of His Word"
>>the same David Duncan that was writing sf in the fifties and sixties?
>
>Nope. He's a new one. Dave Duncan started writing SF/Fantasy about 6
>or so years ago, before that he was a Geologist (and father of three
>brilliant children :-)
>
>Nick Duncan
>
>PS: The first book of the sequel to Man of his Word is out in hardcover.
>Look for The Cutting Edge in your neighborhood bookstores.

So, Nick, who are your three brothers and/or sisters?  :)
					Kenny

			- Kenneth Moorman (kennethm@cc.gatech.edu)
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From: whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Subject: Re: C.J.Cherryh: The Company Wars
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:22:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.154959.60705@cc.usu.edu>, slp66@cc.usu.edu writes:
> > I have found out from the poster that she did not ask the permission of
> > the author (or publisher) to post this material, or the other material
> > she wants to send you.  She's another of those net.neos with the fairly
> > standard misunderstandings of copyright.  (She quoted the standard
> > misconceptions to me, "I didn't charge anybody", "The author won't mind", along
> > with "it's out of print." and claimed that "you americans" [I'm not one in
> > the coloquial sense] don't know these basic copyright facts.  Where do we get
> > these people?)
> > 
> > So everybody should delete this article out of respect for Cherry(h).
> 
> Gee, Brad, I'm glad you are here to protect us from evil people like this
> poster.  Without people like you telling me what to think, I don't know I'd do. 
> While I respect the thought that one shouldn't violate copyright, your arrogant
> presumption in dictating to me what I should and shouldn't do is very
> misplaced.

He can't 'dictate what you you should do, but it happens he's right.
It's what you *should* do.  On the other hand, if you don't care about
copyrights, and you do what you can to make the valueless, then you
won't see very much published because your favorite authors wll have
to find some other way to make a living....

	--Hal
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From: KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
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Subject: Plot(actually a setting) with no title
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:12:00 GMT

I wrote: 
>OK, I'm looking for the title and author of a book (or was it a 
>series) in which there are humans (or reasonably interbreedable facsimiles 
>thereof) scattered on worlds all over the galaxy.  Much of the plot involves 
>the humans from Earth and other planets arguing about how there could be the 
>same species on so many different planets.  At the end, . . .
>
>SPOILER WARNING
>
>. . . it is discovered that humans are descended from a species of vermin
>that populated a superior species' space ships, and the verminous humans just
>happened to jump ship on those planets that the other beings landed on.
>
>You can e-mail me with the answer, if anybody has it.

And ca572@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark L. Stackpole) replied:
>>       Uhhh... This sounds like a short novellette that was
>>published in _Galaxy_ in 1954-6 (but I'm sure has been reprinted
>>since).
>>       "Big Ancestor" by F.L. Wallace
>>

And Dorothy J. Heydt also wrote:
>>The title was Big Ancestor, and it appeared in Galaxy in the 1950s.
>>I can't be sure of the author--Cogswell?  Simak?  Somebody will
>>know.

Thanks for the replies.  Now, does anybody know where this story might be 
collected?
From: jat@edsr.eds.com (Jon A. Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Plot Identification? (Minor Harry Turtledove Spoilers)
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:10:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: EDS Research, Dallas, TX 75230

In <BxKpHL.Cxp@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> gmills@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (MILLS G - CHEMICAL ENG.) writes:

>The story goes that the secret of interstellar travel is actually
>incredibly simple and most cultures/planets discover it long before the
>internal combustion engine.  (ie. knock together a wooden box, coat it
>with tar and explore the galaxy!)

>The action of the story occurs when the current rulers of the galaxy (a
>bunch of fluffy t-bears armed with flintlock rifles) arive on Earth and
>get a big surprise...

I can't give you all the gory bibliographic details, but what you're
thinking of is undoubtedly the short story "The Road Not Taken" by
Harry Turtledove. It's in his short-story collection entitled,
if memory serves, _Kaleidoscope_.

There are several other very good stories in the collection, in fact--
like the one where, when they say "It's in the mid-sixties today," 
everyone is wearing love beads and bell-bottoms. Remember to set
your year conditioner.

Good stuff. Highly recommended.

	JT
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From: parmentier@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of Authors' names
Organization: Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:23:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.212255.11772@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>, baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
> Do you read C.J.Cherryh? (_Pride of Chanur_ is one of her better knowns)
> It's pronounced cherry, like the fruit. (I think she added the h to
> avoid bad puns, since the SF artist David Cherry is some kind of relative,
> I think her brother.

	Yup, they are brother and sister, she was even his High School
Latin teacher.  What fun, older sister as your high school instructor.
David seems to have turned out OK in spite of that.

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From: bjones@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Brent Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Steampunks (was Re: Tim Powers)
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:25:53 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies

In article <1992Nov7.174225.7158@eff.org> write@eff.org (Glen Cox) writes:
>Richard wrote:
>
>>>James Blaylock - "The Last Coin"
>>>	(Power's college roomie, btw)
>>>
>>>				richard
>>>	rwilley@eagle.wesleyan.edu
>
>Brent Jones responded:
>
>>Although they were great friends in college, they never roomed together.
>>They did, however, seem to be pretty much inseperable and spent a great
>>deal of time together.
>>
>>While friends in college, they were both working on their first real
>>manuscripts. Blaylock's concerned the Wild Man of Borneo and sinister
>
[deleted]

>And I say:
>
>Let's not forget the third of this unlikely trio, K.W. Jeter.  If I'm
>not mistaken, it was their tie to an established SF writer (namely
>Phil Dick) that brought them together.
>
>For Jeter (when he's writing like his buddies), try _Infernal Devices_.
>Try _Dr. Adder_ for when he's writing like his mentor.
>
>glen
>
>
>-- 
>/== Glen E. Cox =============================================================\
>|  write@eff.org  |  CURRENTLY SEEKING: Rex Stout, Three at Wolfe's Door      |
>|  GEnie: G.COX3  |                     P.G. Wodehouse, Mike                  |
>| DELPHI: MRWRITE |                     Ed McBain, 'Til Death                 |

Dick, Blaylock, and Jeter used to get together every Thursday night,
usually at Powers' Santa Anna apt., to drink scotch and discuss
literature. Went on for a number of years and became something of an
"event." Blaylock has a wonderful intro to one of Powers' small press
editions, in which he describes the night Powers' rabbit panicked and
pissed all over Dick's new leather jacket. Also mentions something about
football-sized rats slinging themselves around the neighborhood hand
over hand (paw over paw?), hanging from the powerlines. The thing of it 
is, I believe him.

-- 
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"In the Kingdom of Boredom, I wear the Royal Sweatpants." --M. Leyner