HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:03:01 GMT

In article <14218@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <f7_nasf.tyger@netcom.com> tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug21.213353.1705@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>|>
>|>Anyone else getting what appears to be an email form letter come-on that
>|>starts something like, I read one of your posts and thought it was
>|>interesting....  ?  Just curious.
>|
>|I did! Wonder if he is interested or just on the make...?
>|Things that make ya go Hmmmmm.....
>
>I got one too.  Hmmmmm???..
>
Maybe he's bi?
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: cooking newsgroups??
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:39:48 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug15.041340.6496@midway.uchicago.edu> matt@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Matt Crawford) writes:
|John Fereira:
|) "It's not just for breakfast anymore".  Maggie Mae's is a bar that
|) has so many varieties of beer that they have a beer menu.
|
|How many varieties woud that be?  50?  100?  I'm not impressed.
|There's a place in Berwyn (BERWYN??), less than a half a mile outside
|Chicago, that has a list .. well, there were at least 50 in each
|column, and 4 or 5 columns ... on each side of the page.

I don't recall exactly how many they had but I remember that they had 8
different "stouts" on tap.  They had 6 or 7 different Pilsners from 
Czechoslovakia.  Not just Pilsner-Urquell.  They had Duvel from Bulgaria.

I was in Austin for a three day conference.  The last night I went down to
6th street with a guy I had met at the conference.  We went into Maggie Mae's
and he decided that it was my birthday and proceeded to chased down women,
drag them back to our table, and then tell them it was my birthday, and suggest
that I be given a birthday kiss.  It actually worked several times.  

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Psychobabble
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:44:47 GMT

In article <200m1df.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.212700.23850@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
>>In  <=20mfbh.barry@netcom.com>  barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>>>
>>>      Descartes' test: "I think, therefore I am".
>>
>>I prefer to misquote it as:  Coito, ergo sum.
>
>The one I like is: Descartes said, "I think not," and promptly
>disappeared.

   Cartesian, adj., Relating to Descartes, a famous philosopher, author of
   the celebrated dictum, "Cogito, ergo sum" -- whereby he was pleased to
   suppose he demonstrated the reality of human existence.  The dictum
   might be improved, however, thus: "Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum" --
   "I think that I think, therefore I think that I am;" as close an approach
   to certainty as any philosopher has yet made.

   -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_

-- Herb Huston


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: FINNS - They all look alike
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:34:00 GMT

In article <28998@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>Well... A typical Finnish woman is about 5'5" blonde, short/medium
>straight hair and perhaps wears glasses.  Most of them are about the
>right weight, although quite a lot of them think that they are too
>fat.  She is pretty attractive, I think.

Liar!

A typical Finnish woman is at least 30% overweigh unhygienic square head
who only wonders about the polar bear fur fashion of next winter.
Usually encountered in supermarkets with curlers in their hair, buying
overpriced "young beauty" sellulite gels and reduced price household
sausage.

As there's nothing much to do here in the evenings they usually read
wise saying from the Bible and sing folk songs.

Trust me. I had one for a girlfriend. I didn't even know she was
abnormal until I found out that she used to acquire half of her
household goods from the garbage cans. Always wondered where she went
at 4 am.

-- 
jjj@mits.mdata.fi     Thanks, Life; thanks, Death    And the other me:
jjj@niksula.hut.fi    for freeing me from self       Jenny L{rv{joki
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: Married Men and Single Women
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 04:47:15 GMT
Organization: QQQCLC
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug13.031033.14776@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> jfb200@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (joseph.f.baugher) writes:
>I have found that men tend to be rather reluctant to talk  with  other
>men  about their sexual escapades.  The male locker room boasting that
>we all hear about in feminist tracts seems to me to be largely a myth.
>[...]
>Comments?

	My personal experience supports this. But there's a lot of
variability in the culture these days; it may happen without my
knowing it.

	Actually, if I understand the myth correctly (whether or
not it's true), it's that men brag of their sexual _conquests_,
not that they talk about sexual escapades with their wife or
long-term sweetie. Am I correct?

						Kayembee
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Apricots. Yum. (was Re: The myriad uses of hot tubs)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:27:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Aug18.222818.29455@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
>
>P.S.  Does anyone have a solution for those dried apricots that turn
>out to be hard little rocks when you open the bag??  Can anyone point
>me towards a better class of dried apricots!?!  (Donations cheerfully
>accepted...all in the name of science, of course.)

Yes. Put them in a dish. Cover with brandy. Heat in microwave on low for a
few minutes (no, I said LOW. That's better.) until softened. Feed them to
your SO.
 
If you can't stomach brandy, do the same with mead.
 
Greg
From: dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: 16 Aug 92 11:15:53 GMT

margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:

> In  <1992Aug15.185809.17611@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>  tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve
> > You shouldn't be too self-conscious
> > either--I think it was Fran Leibowitz who observed that few people would
> > be self-conscious at all if they knew just how little attention everyone
> > else was paying to them--you'd probably be surprised with just how much
> > more you can get away with than you'd expect.
> 
> That's how I finally started dancing a few years back.  I figured that
> whatever I did couldn't possibly look more ridiculous than what some of
> the people on the dance floor were doing, and nobody was laughing at *them*.
> (I suppose a few drinks had helped as well.)  So, I tried it - and I had FUN!

This whole issue of "letting go" or "letting you hair down" is a
bit more complex than your anecdote might suggest.

The basic paradox is that you are generally advising Kevin to
ignore reason and use his unconscious and intuitive bells and
whistles.  But here you reverse the advice and tell him to ignore
that inner warning signal that tells you you are about to make a
fool of yourself.  Of course you are right in the sense that our
social inhibitory mechanisms are generally too stringent -- they
seem to overprotect social image and reputation -- but even while
"letting go" on the dance floor you still want the social
inhibitor turned on (at a lower volume).  You don't want, for
example to find yourself making illegally lewd gestures and
getting beat up or arrested or something equally negative. (Going
into a strange environment alone and having a couple of drinks
might easily lead into a situation where you encounter serious
negative consequences.)

My reading is that you have at least partly misunderstood Kevin's
caution.  You seem to think that he is battling the normal middle
class overinhibition which is typical of highly socialized and
polite American young men.  But the examples you and he discussed,
i.e. being too persistent in pursuing a co-worker, really seemed
to involve underinhibition.

--
Still Using Waffle 1.64!    | Wafffle, QEdit and Webster's
                            | NewWorld -- one great menage a
                            | trois!
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Married Men and Single Women
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:26:02 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Aug12.125711.6343@walter.bellcore.com> nobody writes:
>In article <BsuK9o.FqJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:
>>My female friends say the following about it:
  [...]
>>It eases the problem of "how do I know he's not a psycho?".  If he has
>>friends, some of whom are women, that's not much of a worry.
>
>As long as they can judge the women that are his friends. But even then,
>a very large number of killers and rapists that you read about have had 
>live-in girlfriends when they were caught. Some endorsement.

Maybe you're right.  But I wasn't writing this as advice to women on
how to avoid weirdos.  I was just saying that some of my [female]
friends find that a man having women as friends is somewhat
reassuring, and therefore attractive.  I suspect the fact that you
don't think this is much of an indicator, isn't going to affect
-their- response very significantly.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Sexual selectivity and Kevin (was Re: Sexual Selectivity and Barbary Macaques)
Keywords: selectivity, sociobiology, exogenous mitochondria, complexity
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:46:11 GMT

 
in <1992Aug12.014948.13240@nuchat.sccsi.com>
    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes
 
] In article <1992Aug10.195419.3814@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
]             tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
] >
] >in <1992Aug7.233348.17875@nuchat.sccsi.com>
] >    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
] >
] >] In article <1992Aug7.075058.10627@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
] >]             tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
] >] >Well, you can always find people who do like to be around you (for
] >] >romantic purposes).
] >]
] >] Since when?  *I* haven't managed to find such people.  If I had, then I
] >] wouldn't be talking about this.
] >
] >Or, more likely, you haven't noticed the ones you've found.
]
] Well, now here we have an interesting problem.
]
] You say that I might not have noticed.
]
] Sheba says I'm guaranteed to notice.
]
] Which one of you is right?
 
Well, we both are, of course.  (There, that was easy, wasn't it?)
Seriously, I think we were talking about slightly different things.
 
] >] Why should I bother to try to rewrite the rules when all it does is cause me
] >] pain?
] >
] >To learn to do it well?
]
] Depends on whether or not doing it well yields more pain than doing it badly.
] :-)
 
If it did, that would seem to contradict the premise that one was doing
it well.
 
] >] True, but it's harder than that.  The values differ from person to person,
] >] and are often not observable.
] >
] >Oh, absolutely--but you can still observe them indirectly.
]
] How?
 
Watch people's actions, reactions, and decisions.
 
] Well, no.  You don't see people who have huge wads of cash lying around
] complaining about not being able to get a date, do you?
]
] Or do you?
 
Sure, that combination doesn't seem to be particularly uncommon.
 
] I don't deny that it's *possible* (i.e., probability > 0) that I'll find
] a Right Woman For Me in an almost exclusively male environment.  But it
] sure hasn't worked so far.
]
] Let me put it this way: I have *never* met a woman in any of these environments
] who wasn't attached unless she explicitly didn't *want* to be attached.  In
] other words, *none* of them was having problems finding boyfriends.  Does this
] tell you anything?
 
Well, it suggests that you're too easilly discouraged.  After all,
people do break up and become available again and they do have available
female friends.  Also, your statement implies that you're assuming that,
given the choice between you and any other MOTAS, a woman will always
opt for someone other than you.
 
Trygve

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: adams@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (Allen Adams)
Subject: Re: Married Men and Single Women
Keywords: Why are married men more attractive than single men?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:50:35 GMT

luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:

>In article <adams.713546541@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU>, adams@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (Allen Adams) writes:
>> 
>> In terms of 'Married Women and Single Men' (a reverse of the subject),
>> truer friendships with the married women I have met.  They are not
>> a 'threat' to me, nor I to them.  We can talk about the world around
>> The fact that they are married makes it MUCH easier to interact; there
>> is no game playing going on.
>> 
>> Allen Adams

>Am I to assume that there is a 'threat' between single men and others?
>some natural threat of attack on the private by the love starved single man.

Not quite.  Just overly cautious of something innocent being interpreted as
sexual harassment.

Allen Adams

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:14:01 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug17.180147.27289@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>Much as I admire Mark Twain, I have to disagree with him here--I don't know
>a whole lot about the Mississippi river, but gaining technical understanding
>of other subjects has increased my aesthetic appreciation for them:  I find
>automobiles, stereo equipment, and even algorithms more aethetically 
>appealing the more I know about them technically; the same can be said for
>sports, art, and food.

Music, for me.  I have a friend who gapes when I tell her some of what
I've learned about music (like how the Stones' "Jumpin' Jack Flash" is
propelled by that bass notes that lead the drumbeats just _so_).  She's
afraid the magic of it will dissolve if she learns too much about it,
but it is exactly the opposite for me.  It just gets better every time
I learn something new.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
The sun is gonna shine again / We're gonna make it 'round that bend
I'll walk another mile with you, 'cause you're my friend
The sun is gonna shine again.			- Graham Parker
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons)
Subject: Topless Californians
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 15:35:04 GMT

The following is from Sundays Chicago Tribune and is posted without permission.
But I felt maybe one of the California posters could check it out and report
back to the net as a public service.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                           Topless, and proud

About 50 woman, led by six performance artists called the X-plicit Players,
have been dancing and singing topless in public to celebrate what they term the
emancipation of their breasts. The woman vow to repeat the street celebrations
at least once a month in Berkely and San fransisco to show support for a New
York appeals court decision in July that said woman could expose their breasts 
legally in public for non-commercial and non-lewd purposes.

The X-plicit Players say California women are free to go topless because no
state law specifically prohibits them from doing so. Sources in the public
defender's and district attorney's offices in San Fransisco say that's true,
but the women could still be prosecuted under indecent exposure and obscenity
laws.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don
dwc@wnb3b2.att.com
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:10:57 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <71467@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>>Since it seems that USENET is an environment where some of the women prefer
>>>intelligent men, perhaps we can conclude that a man's chances of meeting a
>>>woman by posting *intelligent* things to USENET are greater than 0%.
>
>>I guess this is still purely hypothetical, though.
>
>Yes - posting funny or titillating things seems far more effective 
>(however, these data are not statistically significant).

Hmm.  Maybe for women that's true (no doubt due in large part to the
"gee, she flirts, maybe she's easy" factor :-).  But it looks a little
different from here.  I've received a fair amount of e-mail feedback
from my few serious articles, whereas my constant rain of flirts and
one-liners has so far yielded a staggering 0 reponses.  Maybe people
are trying to tell me something.  :-)

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: 16 Aug 92 08:55:22 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <1992Aug15.224506.42573@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:

>That's how I finally started dancing a few years back.  I figured that
>whatever I did couldn't possibly look more ridiculous than what some of
>the people on the dance floor were doing, and nobody was laughing at *them*.
>(I suppose a few drinks had helped as well.)  So, I tried it - and I had FUN!

That's about the same way I started dancing too.  I realized that I
look exactly as stupid to others when I'm staring to the dancefloor as
I'd look if I actually were there.  So I went there, had fun, and
eventually I realized that those who noticed me usually liked my
dancig. And hey, I have never heard that someone would have got
compliments about not dancing. :)

>Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

Juha
-- 
Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Keywords: Newsgroup?
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:41:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1992Aug12.201935.29863@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.132111.26642@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com> puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude) writes:
>>
>>Can you say....   Alt.Romance.Chat in Soc.Singles?   I knew you could!
>
> Ok pooperdude, alt.romance.chat, indeed. Allow me to show you the
>subtle difference:
>
>S.S.(Or am I not allowed to talk to you, james?)
>a.r.c.(james may we converse of the moon the stars, the sun. Your eyes
>are like limpid pools of blue saphire. Converse?)
[...]

Thanks, James.  Now I've spat coffee all over my monitor.  Thanks a bunch.


-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:53:16 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:

>No, he didn't get lucky.  He had skills that enabled him to get the
>girl to date him.  Had he not arrived, she would have not dated any
>of the other men at the party.  How do I know?  I was the woman.
...
>This is precisely why the ratios are (IMHO) bullshit.  They give a false
>sense of the dynamics.  

I agree that ratios can be misapplied, but I want to point out that not all
women behave the way you did at that party. Some women are exploring the
dating scene and they want to meet and date various people. They may
not have figured out exactly what they want in a partner. Or they may not 
be looking for a long-term partner. Such a woman might go to a party 
intending to get dates with the most interesting people there. (Or at least
to get their email addresses. :-)

When I was exploring, I would have considered a party with 40 people I knew
I didn't want to date to be a *real* dud of a party.

Then again, I guess that's because the people I like to talk to, the people
I like to be friends with, and the people I like to date all have pretty
similar characteristics.

--
Stef					"One of us has to be a pragmatist."
stef@apple.com				"Nonsense!"
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