From: s9874194@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194)
Subject: Re: Insensitive mainland chauvinist view. (Was: Who Cares 150 F-16s.)
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:00:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.005955.19975@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, yewang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yenwen Wang) writes...
>In article <13SEP199211140907@phobos.ucc.umass.edu> s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194) writes:
> 
>>
>>I have been posting since the second day after Bush's announcement.
>>I have been keep saying that selling weapons to Taiwan is a violation
>>to PRC's sovereignty, just like selling weapons to IRA (Irish Republican
>>Army). It is not an issue between Beijing and Taipei. It is an issue
>>between Beijing and Washington. 
>>
>Comparing IRA with ROC is not only wrong, but insulting! This again
>shows the insensitivity of the Chinese people and the education
>by CCP are so deep-rooted.
> 
>ROC was once a government of the entire China, then lost
>the civil war, and then lost the recognitions from other
>countries. IRA started as a minority group asking for
>independence, then resorted to terrorism. People in
>Taiwan see their country humiliated year after year, few
>mainland Chinese understand that. They only think the whole
>thing as a zero-sum game between CCP and KMT.
> 
>Yes, insisting PRC's sovereignty may satisfy your nationalistic
>appetite, but from Taiwan's viewpoint, it's chauvinistic. You
>do not get anything constructive done.
> 
> 
>>
>>BTW, to my knowledge, F-16 is not a defensive weapon. It can cross
>>the straight within a minute. It will be used as a counter threat,
>>not as a defence.
>>
>>c.q.
>Counter threat is not a means of defense? You mean Taiwan should build
>a 'Maginot line'-- a sitting duck type of defense, I suppose :-)
> 
> 
>Yenwen wang
> 
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>  Yenwen Wang                        wangy@kaa.eng.ohio-state.edu
>  The Ohio State University          yewang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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I was not comparing KMT as IRA, rather I am suggesting the two groups
of people both looking for independence. IRA is a minority group but
Northern Ireland Independence is not a issue of minority. DPP is as well
a minority group, except it does not using terrorism rather they like
to throw chairs in the Parliment legally.

True, counter-threat is a mean of defence but the weapon used in counter-
threat can not be regarded as defensive weapon. Just like Beijing has
A-bomb as its counter threat weapon but you do not regard A-bomb as a 
defensive weapon.

Without insisting PRC's soovereignty, can you get some thing constructive?
I doubt it. True, some people are calling me insensitive chauvinist.
I think the important issue here is not what I am but what I am doing
and whom I am doing that for. I do not think lable the other people as
such such -ism would help the discussion, would help to make yourself
understood. I never worry about it and I never call the other people
such such -ism.

c.q.

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