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From: lgs57@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Books in the time of school
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:11:49 GMT

My favorite books included Rissa Kerguelen by F.M. Busby.  This is the story
of an eighteen year old who could do everything.  She wins a lottery to get
herself out of a welfare prison, escapes to space, becomes an important
person, and then overthrows the regime on Earth who put her in the welfare
prison and reforms everything in sight.  I read and reread the story until the
binding started to fall apart.

I was also a big Tolkien fan and I read Lord of the Rings about 10 times.  I
had completely worn out my set by the time I started college.

In college, I read every book Heinlein ever wrote.  My favorite was (and is)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.  Again I identify with the revolutionaries.  I
love to read books where the revolutionaries win.  I thought Gene Wolfe was
wonderful and I read Shadow of the Torturer several times.

I discovered the Katherine Kurtz Deryni books and I identified with Kelson
fighting against his evil enemies.

In high school, I read Dangerous Visions over and over again.  Somehow it was
in the high school library.  I thought this was incredibly subversive.

In graduate school, I read and re-read the Belgariad by David Eddings
especially the first two books.  I still think the first two books were
wonderful.

Now I'm reduced to re-reading the beginning books of a trilogy because I can't
remember them.  I have reread the Tad Williams books.  I think they're wonderful
when I'm sick.  I am always intending to re-read the Robert Jordan Wheel of
Time series but I never get to it.
From: wdw@sybase.com (Wayne Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Info on Max Blagg
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:13:38 GMT
Reply-To: wdw@sybase.com (Wayne Wong)
Organization: Sybase, Inc.


There's been a great deal of chat about this on rec.arts.tv,
and I thought someone here could enlighten me.

There's a commercial on network TV (I believe it's for
clothing) which features a poet billed as "Max Blagg"
reciting a piece that begins "Sky fits Heaven so ride it....".
The whole ad is in black and white, with a brittle jazz
soundtrack. Images of stylish men and women and sleek
objects flash by, with occasional shots of (I assume) Mr.
Blagg standing and reciting.

Now, does anyone know who Mr. Blagg is -- if he's
really anyone at all? This commercial is broadcast
very frequently, and many folks, it appears, have 
come to detest it for its seemingly pretentious tone.

Thanks! 

Wayne

(We now return you to SHAKESPEARE: THE ENFORCER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: gregg@ncsu.b24a.ingr.com (Gregg Phillips)
Subject: Re: Philately (will get you nowhere)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:07:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.011310.19183@news.acns.nwu.edu>, myboy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Lewis Murtaugh) writes:
|> In article <CB.92Oct9143010@tamarack13.timbuk> cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
|> >
|> >From an old Firesign Theater album (from memory):
|> >
|> >Mudhead: "After school, I'm going to the Philatalists' Club!"


Thanks for straightening me out--I always thought Porgey said he was
going to the "Poe Analysts' Club".



|> >
|> >Porgey:  "I didn't know you masturbated!"
|> >
|> You got it backwards... it's Porgey Tirebiter that is the straight man, going
|> to the philatalists' club, and Mudhead that makes the masturbation joke. 
|> Ensued by...
|> 
|>  Mudhead:  I didn't know you masturbated!
|> 
|>  Porgey: Aww, creepies, Mudhead -- where's your school spirit?
|> 
|>  Mudhead: In the rumble seat -- want a snort?
|> 
|> [hilarity follows]
|> 
|> 
|> >Chris Brewster
|> >cb@cray.com
|> 
|> Charles Murtaugh
|> (Another Firesign Theatre addict)
|> 

Gregg Phillips
(Tertiary FTA)
From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Pantheon Phone #
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:00:32 GMT
Organization: Oracle Europe

Hi,

I am looking for the phone number of Pantheon Publishing which lets
you place direct orders. A number in the US would be fine but a
European one would be preferred.

Thanks a lot for any pointers.
--> Rob
From: wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au (INFIDEL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: The White Man's Burden of Proof - New words!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:46:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: uniwa.1bj440INNcu6
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:

>In article <7620055@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>> In rec.arts.books, wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au (INFIDEL) writes:
>> > Dug Cunt-storm writes:
>> 
>> Hehe.  This reminds me so much of high school.

>More like junior high.  And at my junior high, INFIDEL would have
>run from the scene, with blood dripping from his nose.  (Not by
>me, of course -- but by someone without my tolerance and aversion
>to violence).

Not by you, of course. With your tolerance and aversion to violence, you'd 
rather let others do your dirty work.

The problem with your posts to this newsgroup is that they wreak of
your cowardice.
From: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: You ask who is Derek Walcott?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 12:22:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu




Walcott's poem "Sea Canes" is one of the most moving laments on mortality 
I've ever read.

Brodsky has a fine essay about him in LESS THAN ONE.  

"Who is Derek Walcott?"    For shame! 

J. Del Col (who will be reading some of Walcott's poems to his freshmen
             so that they will know who Derek Walcott is)

 
-- 
Jeff Del Col      *    "Got a gypsy woman givin' me advice,      
A-B College       *     Got a whole lotta tricks keepin' here on ice."    
Philippi, WV      *          ---Got My Mojo Workin'--  P. Foster
                  *         
Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:17924 rec.arts.sf.misc:3073 aus.sf:541 rec.railroad:7848
From: pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.arts.sf.misc,aus.sf,rec.railroad
Subject: Re: SF Rails (was: Whats the title/Author of this story
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:03:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: engage.1992Oct8.121024.11156
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


	Subway Called Moebius: short story, Asimov (?).
	<Spoliers  ho.....>

	The MTA (as it was then) inadvertently creates a Klein Bottle (3D
	Moebius Strip....) in their trackage.  As a result a subway train goes
	<somewhere>: Its not HERE and its drawing power.  Eventually, it
	returns, the passengers unaware of any extraneous passage of time.
	Meanwhile, another train has gone missing.....

	A Botts and the Moebius Strip:  short story, author ???.
	A (Alexander) Botts was a salesman/trafellin engineer for the
	Earthworm Tractor Company.  A series fo stories about his "power
	engineering escapades" found a home in the Saturday Evening Post.
	The Moebius Stip in question was a long, flat belt, which for reasons
	to trivial to describe had to have only one side....

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
146 Main St			|I am the NRA.
Maynard, Mass		01754	pierson@cimnet.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: mcrosby@nyx.cs.du.edu (Matthew Crosby)
Subject: Re: Help me settle an argument
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:55:21 GMT

In article <1429@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
>Regarding "The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam":  My friend says it really is
>written by some (Arab?Persian?) named Omar Khayyam and translated by
>some Englishman (Fitzgerald?).  I say there was no such person as
>Omar Khayyam and the book was actually written by the Englishman.  Please
>settle this if you have certain knowledge. (And kindly ignore
>misspellings).  Thanks.

Well, there is some controversy about this, but certainly Fitzgeralds translation
was based at least partly on a 10th century Arab book.  Certainly there have
been other translations beside that of Fitzgerald (The most recent that I know
of was by Robert Graves in colloboration with someone else).  The point being,
Fitzgerald most certiainly did not make it all up.
--
-Matt
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the net!
mcrosby@nyx.cs.du.edu  -or-  crosby@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu
From: barb@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Barb Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Seeking: incisive essayists, any race, creed, or gender
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:45:21 GMT
Reply-To: barb@zurich.ai.mit.edu
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
In-reply-to: oliver@redwood.CS.Berkeley.EDU's message of 15 Oct 92 01:47:35 GMT

In article <1biijnINN8c8@agate.berkeley.edu> oliver@redwood.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Oliver Sharp) writes:

   Well, that's enough to be getting on with.  Lit crit, philosophy, religion,
   politics, any or all are fair game.  The feel I'm looking for is Orwell,
   though; that sudden sense that you are in the presence of a wise, rational,
   small l liberal, who sees clearly and thinks deeply.  They can be wrong,
   but never cheap.  

   Any suggestions?

I don't know whether this is really what you're looking for, but for a
writing course I was recently given a list of essayists to read and
the one who really stood out for me was Barbara Grizzuti Harrison.
What struck me was that, while she had firm beliefs, they seemed to be
her own beliefs rather than received ones, and she was honest in
places where she had to be ambivalent.  The course was on writing from
personal experience, and she fits that category in that, while the
range of topics included those you mentioned (as well as some more
personal ones), she does bring a personal viewpoint to it (for
instance, she looks at racism by returning to the Bensonhurst
neighborhood where she grew up).  Since I haven't read Orwell's essays
I can't say whether this would provide the level of detachment you may
be looking for, but I did feel that she was interested in exploring
issues, rather than grinding an axe.

The exact name of the collection of essays that I read escapes me at
the moment; I found it in the public library.  She has published at
least one other book about the time she spent living in Italy.

Barb Miller
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: More Notes from the Decline
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:43:34 GMT

In article <12741@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:

>Do you not know any Republicans?  

	Not in the Biblical sense.

>I know quite a few. 

	I'm stunned.  I always assumed you limited your acquaintance to
like-minded survivalists and other paranoid schizophrenics with the odd
(and I do mean odd) computer science professor thrown in.

>What sort of
>books do they read?  Stephen King novels.  History books by Barbara
>Tuchman.  _Moby Dick_.  _Rise and Fall of the Great Powers_.
>Books on sailing.  

	Is this list meant to be inclusive, exemplary, or merely speculative
and entirely random, as it appears?  

>But the snotty elitist
>tone makes me wonder how far removed Mr. Brown and Maddox are from
>ordinary Americans.

	Actually, I (I won't presume for speak for Mr. Brown, as we have not
traded secret handshakes) am a member of the Elders of Hollywood, a group
whose "Protocols" are buried under a star on Hollywood Boulevard, the name of
which is known only to a few.  I am of course entirely removed from ordinary
Americans. I live swaddled in velvet and eat only caviar and truffles; I
am carried from place to place by careworn middle-class conservatives who 
lost their jobs to Negroes and are forced to live in squalid apartments
where pornographic films play ceaselessly on televisions that will not
turn off; I consort only with homosexuals and the divorced, both of whom I
meet at gatherings where we plot the elimination of All That Is American.  

>It's not like Republicans are an obscure, rare, seldom met
>minority group.  They are about 1/3 of the adults in this country,
>many of whom are struggling to remain middle class.  

	Actually, most adults I know are struggling, period.  And many of 
them believe that Ronald Reagan (he wasn't a president but played one on tv)
and George Bush (he wasn't a CIA Director, but he does what they tell him)
have presided over the looting of the United States into several generations
and thereby contributed mightily to everyone's troubles.  

>They don't
>agree with a lot of the liberal ideas, but that hardly means that
>they are aliterate, or are limited to comic books.

	Neither of which I asserted.  I merely remarked that the fuckers
are deranged, and hence I'm not sure what they read.  I should add that I
can't believe that knowing this would be of much interest aside from its
comic possibilities.

-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		"The Reptoids eat humans like we eat chickens."
				Alex Alexander
From: harish@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Harish Devarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: WANTED: "The Profit" by Kehlog Albran
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:19:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

Hi all.  I'm looking for the book mentioned above ("The Profit" by
Kehlog "Arguments with furniture are rarely productive" Albran).  Was
recommended to me by a friend, but he doesn't have a copy, and
(surprise) neither does MIT, where I happen to be.  Does anybody have
a copy I can buy ?  Or know where I can find one, in the Boston area ?

Mail to harish@theory.lcs.mit.edu
From: hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry B Laufman)
Subject: Re: Arthur Rimbaud, is that you?????
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:53:50 GMT


Bukowsky and Rimbaud, they are bloods.  Here is a wonderful passage
from Arnold Hauser on Rimbaud:

     Yet neither Baudelaire nor Chekhov nor the others has any
     idea what a hell life could develop into for a man like
     Rimbaud.  Western culture has to reach the stage of its
     present crisis before such a life could have become
     conceivable at all.  A neurasthenic, a ne'er-do-well, an
     idler, a thoroughly malignant and dangerous man who,
     wandering from country to country, manages to scrape a
     living for himself as language teacher, street hawker,
     circus employee, docker, agricultural day-labourer,
     sailor, volunteer in the Dutch army, mechanic, explorer,
     colonial trader and heaven knows what else, catches an
     infection somewhere in Africa, has to have a leg
     amputated in a hospital in Marseilles, in order, at the
     age of thirty seven, to die piece-meal in the most
     terrible agony; a genius who writes immortal poems at the
     age of seventeen, gives up poetry completely at the age
     of nineteen and in whose letters there is never a mention
     of literature during the rest of his life; a criminal
     toward himself and others, who throws away his most
     precious possession and completely forgets, completely
     denies that he has ever possesses them; one of the
     pioneers and, as many people maintain, the real founder
     of modern poetry, who, when the news of his fame reached
     him in Africa, refuse to listen and dismisses it with a
     "merde pour la poesie," (Shit for that poetry).

Regards, Harrington
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From: wbrown@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (Bill Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Whats the title/Author of this story
Date: 7 Oct 1992 14:51:06 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.192.17
Keywords: SF railways mars

In article <1992Oct7.020101.21144@cs.su.oz.au> matthew@cs.su.oz.au (Matthew Geier) writes:
>
> Some time ago I read a SF novel that was set on Mars and featured a
>railway system on Mars.
>	...
> The reason im looking for this book is that it appears to be the only case
>where my interests in SF and railways meet in one book. Im now looking for
>a name for my railway BBS and thought that book might provide a name..
>(Particularly the name of the siding at the town.. ).

While not the book you're looking for, another "intersection" of SF/Trains
was a short story named something like "A Subway Called Mobius."  Don't
remember the name of the author, or even where/when I read it.

Disclaimer:  These opinions are my own and have	    |
    nothing to do with the official policy or the   |  -bill
    management of L.B.L, who probably couldn't      |   wlbrown@lbl.gov
    care less about employees who play with trains. |
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: More Notes from the Decline
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:26:29 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

Tom Maddox's Republican reading list:

>piffle and twaddle.

>	The fuckers are obviously deranged.  Who knows what or if they read? 
>Anti-abortion tracts and _Reader's Digest_, perhaps--thinking about it gives 
>me the willies.

You mean the "Willy Horton`s", right?

Matt
I'd put money on Ollie North's book and William F. Buckley spy thrillers,
myself.  Or Creation Science. And to get in touch with the commoners,
People Magazine.
From: mcgredo@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Don McGregor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: More Notes from the Decline
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:15:40 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

> [Republicans == "the fuckers"]
>># 	Neither of which I asserted.  I merely remarked that the fuckers
>># are deranged, and hence I'm not sure what they read.  I should add that I
>># can't believe that knowing this would be of much interest aside from its
>># comic possibilities.
>># 
>># 				Tom Maddox

The last few:

_The Forgotten Soldier_ Guy Sajek.  Very powerful autobiography of an
enlisted German soldier on the Eastern front in WWII.  Relentlessly
honest, unblinking.

_Among the Thugs_, <Mumble>.  English soccer violence as examined by 
an expat American journalist.  Not bad.

_Will you please be quiet, please_, Raymond Carver.  OK, I just reread it.
I don't think anyone can do justice to Carver with a mere description
of his short stories.

_The Little Sister_, Raymond Chandler.  Not up to the standard of his
earlier Marlowe stories.

_Trouble is my business_, Raymond Chandler.  I don't read mysteries that
much, honest, but I got hooked on Chandler after _The Big Sleep_.  The
villians seem quaintly tame by today's standards.  The gangsters
are cautious about killing someone.  The modern version would off
someone without a second thought.  Stay away from those reefers,
for God's sake.

_Kipling's Short Stories_, Rudyard Kipling.  Not bad.

_Sense and Sensibility_, The Divine Jane.  What a great broad.   

_Fatal Decision_ , Carlo D'Este.  A fine writer working with dry subject
matter.  A history of the Anzio operation and the Italian campaign in 1943-44.
Impressive command of his sources.

On The Stack:

Anne Beattie, Chekov short stories.

Cordially,

A Republican Fucker.

-- 
Don McGregor             | "I..I blame society.  Society made me  
mcgredo@prism.cs.orst.edu|  what I am."
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From: librik@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David Librik)
Subject: Re: Summary of Suggested American Indian novels
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:29:41 GMT

gt0009b@prism.gatech.EDU (rahim) writes:


>     Here is the list of all the suggested readings I have received
>concerning American Indian spirituality.  I thank all of you who
>have contributed to this thread.  You have helped me a great deal.
>Thank you.

[...list deleted...]

I think BLACK ELK SPEAKS is usually considered a standard book on Indian
"spirituality."  Or were you looking only for fiction?

- David Librik
librik@cory.Berkeley.edu
From: ah@dunaad.co.uk (Alan Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Callan spy stories.
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:18:00 GMT
Organization: Johnson Hunter Limited

In article <1992Oct7.114001.1@sscl.uwo.ca> szathmary@sscl.uwo.ca writes:
>
>
>Does anyone know the name of the author of the Callan spy stories?

James Mitchell, also wrote/writes as James Munro.


Alan

-- 
Alan Hunter
Johnson Hunter Ltd
Isle of Islay, Scotland
A.Hunter@dunaad.co.uk          fax: +44-496-2336         voice: +44-496-2286
From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Once I put this book down, I could not pick it up again.
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:18:29 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Tom Maddox responds to my 
>
>[troubles with _The Recognitions_ and her liking for _Herzog_]:

>	Ah, despite the meeting of souls that occurred with you in your
>sailor suit, I find that we are not two minds with but a single thought:
>
>	to wit, I cannot stand Bellow in general and _Herzog_ in
>	particular

>	while I sometimes quite like Gaddis


"Ah" to you too, it is difference of opinion that makes the world go 
'round, not just l'amor che muove il sole e l'altre stelle. 

>But I can find it in my heart to forget such trivial differences when I
>remember the tango (or was it the fandango?) . . .

*I* remember, even if you don't.


--Barbara, sadly adjusting the collar of her middy
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson)
Subject: Re: Once I put this book down, I could not pick it up again.
Organization: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam Fans
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:43:34 GMT

In article <9210072047.AA04625@cfdev1.shearson.com> mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto) writes:

>As for Kuhn -- the book is THE STRUCTURE OF SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTION.  It
>isn't that Kuhn repeats himself -- it is that he uses the same word
>(paradigm) to mean many different things.  I don't think much of him,
>either.  I would hope that people who are put off by Kuhn do not think him
>representative of the Philosophy of Science in general.  I've liked much
>of what I've read in the field, other than Kuhn.

Well, I think what he has to say is (if not staggerinly interesting)
at least useful and well-thought out; I just kept getting the
impression that he didn't want to wander too far afield, so he just
kept coming back to his point and grinding it into the dirt.

Eric Olson <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: lthompsn@polari.online.com
Subject: BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:38:07 GMT

I have a theory why they are showing repeats now (65 episodes [13 weeks] 
should've had no repeats until they had ALL been run).

The producer interviewed in COMIC SCENE stated that if the show did well they
would add another 43 episodes.    Well that doesn't properly expand the show
to 26 weeks (130 episodes).    SO I think that if this is what's happening 
they are using the re-runs to "pad" the show to fill the 26 weeks.   If this
is the case we'll get 22 extra repeats.   I hope it's the case...

This is definately a decent show, there have been some "so-so" episodes but in
ANY decent show you are bound to get that.    (Mostly because that "lame" 
episode will probably appeal to a different audience so ultimately the series
appeals to everyone :) ).

I'm glad their repeating "Heart of Ice", a good show that a lot of viewers may
have missed.

I can't spell anymore, I'm going back to bed...


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