HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: 3-way decision (was: Re: AKEBONO MAKES YOKOZUNA)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:43:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.052616.14143@rkna50.riken.go.jp> hughes@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Martin Hughes) writes:
>>I bet had Takahanada won, the place would have been roaring.
>
>Well, yes, but so would I - because of the 3 way play-off, if nothing
>else!

Actually, the 3 way play-off is by itself interesting.

The basic idea is that with 3 contestants, A,B,C; the first one who
wins two in a row becomes the winner.
Suppose in the first bout A faces B and A wins.
Then A faces C, and if A wins then A is the champion,
otherwise C faces B, and so on.

In the actual sumo, there was some upper limit to the number of bouts,
but here let's take the theoretical case that the competition goes on
until the champion is decided.

The question (for rec.puzzles) is:
supposing A,B,C have equal probability of winning over each other;
is this a fair competition?
Said otherwise, what is the probability of A,B,C winning the championship?

Supplement for soc.culture.japan:
If the play-off is 4-way, then a simple tournament method is used.

# crossposted to rec.puzzles: can't make up my mind which
# should be the followup-to group.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: justin@hp750.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:11:14 GMT

larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield) writes:

>Thanks for the info, Naru, but remember, the originator of the 
>standard used gets royalties from every set sold (much as 
>Matsushita/JVC gets royalties from VHS stuffs).  On a side note, 
>there is only one US-owned television maker left, Zenith. RCA and GE 
>ar owned by Thompson of France, Magnavox, Sylvania, etc are Philips 
>of Netherlands, plus of course all the Japanese companies. Ironic as 
>it is, Zenith, being the only US-owned TV maker left, is the only one 
>that doesn't manufacture any of the sets in the US anymore (Mexico, 
>and other places).  Though other companies manufacture a lot 
>off-shore, a good portion of the bigger sets are assembled at least 
>here in the U.S.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Groupe Bull of France buy out Zenith
a year or two ago, or was that just the Data Systems division?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony W H Lai)
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:13:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.075416.15031@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
>In article <93Jan22.145652est.47802@neat.cs.toronto.edu> tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony W H Lai) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan22.153358.24617@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
>>[lots of stuff deleted]
>>>...  a viewing
>>>distance of 5+ meters is recommended for best effect. Just how many
>>>Japanese homes are big enough for that?
>>
>>...  Also, the ideal viewing distance depends on the height H of the
>>screen.  The ideal viewing distance of NTSC is more than 6.5H.  An HDTV
>>system is supposed to have an ideal viewing distance of less than 3.5H.
>
>You're not wrong here, but a one *meter* minimum diagonal size is
>recommended for HDTV screens to begin with. Anything less and
>consumers cannot visually detect the benefits compared to a normal set
>of the same dimensions, and, not detecting the benefits, won't buy it.
>So it still works out to huge room sizes as I stated.

But, if you have a screen measuring 1.2m diagonally, the screen height is
less than 60cm with a 16:9 aspect ratio, so the ideal viewing distance
should be around 2m.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: IZZYEY8@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Howard Cheng)
Subject: Re: Japanese names & Finnish names
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:03:40 PST

In article <3wRwXB3w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us>, on 25 Jan 93 01:13:25 GMT,
larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield) writes:

>
>There are those names that are both Japanese names and (separately)
>Anerican/English names as well.  For instance, Ken (Kenji or
>Kenneth) for a guy, or Kei (Keiko/Kay) for a woman. I know both a Ken
>and Kay Japanese-Americans.
>  But hey, bet you won't find "Larry" <Laurence> as a traditional
>Japanese name.  Too many Ls and Rs. :)
>:::::Larry:::::
>
>:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
>::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
>:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
>
I know of male "Kei."  At first I thought this might be short for
"Keiichi" or something, but it's not.  Is this an unusual name for
a Japanese (well, JA) male?

howard
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Minimum driving age?
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:56:57 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

What's the minimum age and the cost to get a driver's license in Japan?  

E-mail and I'll summarize.

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 06:43:11 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <1jlbsh$3rg@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>Mr. Asano is like an undefeatable kaijuu immolating the city of scj in a
>sea of flames; anti-Rikiya elements, like inept Jieitai soldiers firing
>puny little rockets that only anger Him more.  When resistance proves futile,
>perhaps it is time to pray for His appeasement; ultimately, He will nod His
>head and return to the sea.

What?!  Is there no Ultraman?  Is there no hope?

Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Need help reading FJ newsgroups with HTERM for PC
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:51:07 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu


Hello. I downloaded HTERM, and have installed it on my 286. I'm not
much of a computer expert, so please excuse my ignorance regarding this
subject. Anyway, I'd like to view and read articles posted on fj 
newsgroups which the University of Washington carries. I usually
logon to the internet by dialing into the UW modem pool and then
into my system. Are there any things I should do? Do I have to 
set any environmental parameters, etc? Whenever I try to view fj
newsgroup articles, everything is scrambled (this is in hterm -f
mode...soft font mode). What do I do so I can actually read it?

Thanks
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ltm@cns.nyu.edu (Laurence T. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Akutagawa Ryuunosuke
Reply-To: ltm@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:36:02 GMT


Are you sure Asano-san is a person and not a computer
program? His writing style reminds me of PARRY,
and he *IS* posting from Carnegie Mellon ....


Has Asano-san passed the Turing test?
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Miyazawa Comment (was Re: Honda vs Ford (+ Chrysler now))
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:41:30 GMT
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	<C1J419.M3L@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <C1J419.M3L@news.cso.uiuc.edu> aijuin@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Akira Ijuin) writes:

[PREAMBLE DELETED]
   the US wanted to withdraw its forces, go ahead and do it.  In fact, many
   (and I say many because that's the impression I get.  No concrete stats to
   back it up) Japanese want US forces out of Japan.  People living around
   US bases (and this is true) are more or less fed up with the noise pollution
   and other stuff that comes from the bases.  When the treaty between Japan
   and the US reguarding US service men in Japan was first signed in the
   60s (or was it the 50s), many (yes. many) Japanese were utterly pissed and 
   protested like crazy.

   BTW, some Japanese aren't impressed with US forces because of nukes.
   If I remember correctly, I think a US air craft carrier accidentally dropped
   a hyrogen bomb off the coast of Japan during Vietnam War.  Hmm....

   With all this from Japan, I wonder why the US is maintaining its forces in
   Japan. (hmm.....)

   Akira Ijuin

I think that many of the people on both sides of the Pacific would
like to see the US forces out of Japan. I think that others are afraid
what might develop (i.e., WWIII) if Japan eventually scales up
militarily and (possibly, not unthinkably) with a nuclear capacity.
Certainly the Chinese don't want to see this, and most of the Japanese
people probably don't as well. But if the US does leave, then there is
a vacuum of military power, and we've all seen what that has produced
in the Balkans and elsewhere. I'm not suggesting that Japan would
necessarily have aggressive military intentions, but the balance of
power would be upset and uncertainty would be the consequence. Many
Americans (and probably many Japanese as well) would find this
troubling. Personally, I say roll the dice and get them the hell out.
But nobody in Washington listens to me.

RB


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: "joe kuroda" <joe.kuroda@canrem.com>
Subject: rie miyazawa and takahana
Reply-To: "joe kuroda" <joe.kuroda@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:59:52 EST



In article <1993Jan20.223116.67124@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
            ms0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Michiyo Shinoda) writes: 

MSIn article <hMXUu.rvejb#etlcom3.etl.go.jp>, rvejb@etlcom3.etl.go.jp (John Bozek)
   writes:
  >I don't remember if they gave any details as to
  >the reasons ... maybe somebody else out there in the ether knows...?

MSWhen I visited Japan this winter, I heard all over the place that Rie-mama
  (Rie's mom) was the main reason for the break-up.  It seems that Takahanada's
  parents got tired of Rie's mother, too.

Rie's mother raised her daughter single-handedly - the mother lives 
through her daughter.  Everything Rie does, seemed to be calculated by 
her mother.  Her mother wanted Rie to be in show business, to become an
_idol_ and make tons of money.  At 19, Rie achieved the stardom her 
mohter envisioned for so long.  Even the chance meeting with Takahanada
is known to be more or less arranged by her mother.  She planned it 
beautifully and then she realized that she was losing the control.

Takahanada's father insists that a sumotori's wife must devote her full 
time to *house work*, no outside career or work.  But Rie's mother 
would not go along with this as Rie's marketability skyrocketed since 
the announcement - now she can command double or triple her fees for 
appearences, commercials, TV work (she was in U.S. to cover the Clinton 
inauguration for Nihon TV network.  BTW she was seen with a ring on her 
wedding finger but would not comment to Japanese reporters).

What's so sad about all this is that Takahanada and Rie genuinely seem 
to like each other.  If only left alone for a while ...      

               ==> Joe <==

 * 1st 1.02b #930 + 

  "Hello, World!" 17 Errors, 31 Warnings....  


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:47:51 GMT

blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

>Linda has some good points. Henry too. We probably have to learn to
>live with Riki, like it or not. I learned a long time ago not to
>respond to his posts and get him going off on tangents. Could people
>please try to confine Riki baiting to private email, if you must
>do it, and keep the public stuff only for discussion of his ideas?

This is very true. The ability of Rikiya to write has been demonstrated
on a few occasions , thus his poor grammar , vulgar terms , and misspellings
are rather obviously purposeful. Given that, what earthly good does it do to
point out the 'defects'... he already knows and does not care. Even his rampant
racism would seem to be an artifice. Let him be! Respond to rational posts,
ignore the irrational, ignore the offensive and in the long term Rikiya may
turn into a good scj 'citizen'. Particularly after he realizes that his 
actual ideas will get a real hearing when he presents them without the
baggage.

Charlie
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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Akutagawa Ryuunosuke
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:57:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8fMUKBi00iV204l19L
	<1jn40t$l6a@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. HRobertson writes:

.

> 
>Wuwuwuwuwuwuwu!  I rarely feel inclined to flame Asano-kun, but this one is
>too much!  OK, Asano-kun is expressing his good feeling for Mr. Mishima,
>let's not lose sight of that fact.  He's saying so what if he didn't get this
>particular prize called the Nobel Prize.  But, he overstepped bounds with the
>last two sentences by making unnecessary condemnations.  Anyway, the Nobel
>Prize comes from Stockholm, Sweden.  You will find either city on most maps,
>though I acknowledge neither Scandinavian country has a very large population,
>would fit all into a major US metropolitan area.  The problem is that netters
>get carried away on condemning Rikiya for the latter factual points, losing
>sight of his original intention.  Rikiya is a passionate man, but lays 
>flamebait that aggravates analytically compulsive people.
> 
>flamebait that aggravates factually compulsive people

Yes! You may say that I post very inforamative "research-a tive" post. I
believe
that all of life is an  "educational" institution in a way. If one is
intelligent I believe that they will respond to me in an intelligent
way. No matter what the stimuli. I never set "flamebait"! 

Now, on a personal, note. I really wanted to see you when you came to
Pittsburgh. But, I didn't want you to see my age. I really wanted to
have a drink with you and I could have forced some Korean food down your
throat! :))))
I 'm sorry! Please, accept my apology and forgive me? Thank you! I
promise that the next time you come home. We'll do something.
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Akutagawa Ryuunosuke
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:19:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: avalanche.berkeley.edu

Rikiya said

I will have to make a series of paintings based on his on his works!
This will definately be better than any cheap Noble Award in Literature.
Where does this Award come from anyway- Oslo, Norway! Where the hell is
that! I bet it ain't even on the map!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wuwuwuwuwuwuwu!  I rarely feel inclined to flame Asano-kun, but this one is
too much!  OK, Asano-kun is expressing his good feeling for Mr. Mishima,
let's not lose sight of that fact.  He's saying so what if he didn't get this
particular prize called the Nobel Prize.  But, he overstepped bounds with the
last two sentences by making unnecessary condemnations.  Anyway, the Nobel
Prize comes from Stockholm, Sweden.  You will find either city on most maps,
though I acknowledge neither Scandinavian country has a very large population,
would fit all into a major US metropolitan area.  The problem is that netters
get carried away on condemning Rikiya for the latter factual points, losing
sight of his original intention.  Rikiya is a passionate man, but lays 
flamebait that aggravates analytically compulsive people.

flamebait that aggravates factually compulsive people
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Youth hostels
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:13:02 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

Alton, just a follow-up on your statement about Youth Hostel cards...
  Indeed correct that some YHs in Japan require a YH card, but when I 
went YHing in Japan, they all accepted the international YH cards. 
The thing was this: if you didn't have any cards (ie, from your 
original country's YH association) some would not accept you, others 
would accept you at a higher rate, or some would accept you, allowing 
you to buy a Japanese YH card at that place (depending on the YH, the 
above 3 examples applied). I just bought a YH card from the AYH 
(American Youth Hostel Federation) before going, and it was no 
problem. 
   Also, as a side-note, it's a great way to meet like-minded 
travellers, not to mention that many (most) of the non-temple-owned 
YHs are family-run, and sometimes can be like staying in someone's 
hous.
:::::Larry:::::

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::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:32:39 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

Too true, Maiko-san.  I haven't even bothered applying for English schools
knowing that I don't meet their image of the All-American boy.  Many schools
do exist as a token credit, really as an entertainment for the students to
meet a gaijin for the first time.  It's an ego trip for some, that they
pay the tuition, so they have the right to pick on honky sensei.  A definite
nouveaux-riche mentality.  Of course, many schools exist for students with
a sincere desire to learn the language and all.  It goes to say, you will
encounter the same human-nature constant.  A certain group of people will
look good in some ways but bad in others.
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:05:49 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> Keis Ohtsuka writes:
=> =}I am afraid you're off the mark about the Japanese fans' reactions. . .very
=> =}few would interpret it as a dent in their "racial pride". . .I would argue
=> =}further that sharing a common interest in the sport, such as baseball,
=> =}contribute overcoming narrow mindedness and bigotry despite cultural and
=> =}linguistic gaps that lies between the baseball fans of the two nations.
=> =}[Strike Two!]

In article <36341@twics.co.jp>, dcroz@twics.co.jp 
(David Crosslin) writes:
=>      Sorry, but the *huge* body of evidence in Japanese newspapers, magazines,
=> and TV (including the man-on-the-street interviews) proves conclusively that it
=> is *you* who are off the mark.  I can support my remarks with hard evidence;
=> you demand that everyone accept your word.  People will decide for themselves.

=> =}In my opinion, anyone watches the Olympic games for the affirmation of
=> =}"racial pride" needs an immediate psychiatric help.

=>      I suspect you didn't take in much Olympic coverage in the Japanese
=> vernacular media.  Either that, or your remarks are intended to mislead those
=> who either didn't see any or don't speak Japanese.

=> =}It's a game not a war. [Strike! And David, you're out!!]

=>      Like I said, I've got the evidence; you've got only your denials.  The
=> only question is, are you deliberately prevaricating, or just out to lunch?

I'VE GOT THE EVIDENCE! I"VE GOT THE EVIDENCE!

So put the evidence where your mouth is, or shut the hell up.
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:04:48 MST
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: rikiya asano
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)

In article <kfMmTH200iV1E3J8EF@andrew.cmu.edu> Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

[mercifully deleted]

I thought I could take it, but I'm admitting defeat.  If anyone has a copy
of the "how to make a kill file" post that circulated a few weeks back,
please send me a copy.

Many many thanks.
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From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Some Thoughts on s.c.j
Date: 24 Jan 1993 17:53:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article 22050, larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
writes:

>I *TOO* don't like having to wade through messages on subjects I 
>don't like (whether they be Yaohan or sumo), but I'd appriciate it if 
>people don't act like jerks and post stuff like NUKE ALL THE YAOHANS 
>posts.  I couldn't care LESS about sumo,but realize that there are 
>probably those out there who do, so I leave it be, and just hit the 
><n> key at the <More?> prompt, instead of crowding the 
>already-crowded message base with MORE messages demeaning this.

This very verrrrrrry not correct!!!  Bullshit!  God (In The Bible If You
"Read") saids the holy word: FUCK "N" Key.  Before time of GOdazilla,
JIm Morrison : When the music's over turn out the lights.  Now HIstory
of Human man reveals Hitler was right!!!!  Say this, say that.  Don't
say this, don't say that.  Hit this key, hit that kaey.  You right, I
wrong.  You wrong, I right.  Fuuuuucccckkkkkk Motorola!!!  The worm of
your "existence: has turned".  DO not say this just because you are
ignerint fucker.  REad the Bible!!  Tired of your racist talk.