HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Legal Cocaine? (WAS Re: Drug legalization)
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:19:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Apr7.005239.22930@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes...
>phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>: 	The pause that refreshes.
> 
>According to my references, Coca-Cola (contrary to popular belief) never had
>more than a minute quantity of coca alkaloids in it.
> 

As a curious aside, a few years ago some outfit was selling coca leaf tea in
the US, using leaf material from Enacon (the Peruvian gov't supplier). Although
it claimed to have had the most interesting alkaloids removed, apparently it
had not been processed (and was subsequently removed from the market).

Although the percentage of cocaine in the tea would have been extremely low, it
did fit the slogan "the pause that refreshes".

gary
From: mc4o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joey Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: weed pest?
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:07:04 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Just out of curiosity, does anyone out there know of an insect that
naturally preys on Marijuana plants?  I mean, is there a certain kind of
bug that large scale pot farmers have to wtch out for?

send any reply to mc4o@andrew.cmu.edu

thanks!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jdh@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Jonathan David Harris)
Subject: psychoactives
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:09:41 GMT

I have a friend who has had a problem with psychedelics/actives working  
well on her.  Could someone leave me mail and explain to me why this is  
happening.  For example she could take a whole dose, her friends would get  
off, but not her.  
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: You All Suck
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
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     <1992Apr15.234518.13159@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:59:14 GMT

For what it's worth, I DID send a reply to email.  I didn't get a
response.

So much for truth in advertising.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: amy young <alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: You All Suck
Keywords: Penis, phallus
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:30:10 -0500

In article <tl1jc!a.thinman@netcom.com> thinman@netcom.com (Lance Norskog) writes:
>v116hgth@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Julie A Darmody) writes:
>
>>Drugs are killing are children!!!!! How can you possibly want them legal?????
>
>
>>You must be truly sick.
>
>Hear hear!!!!!  
>It's truly appalling what penicillin has done to the gene pool!!!!!

No kidding!  Totally wipes out a great and powerful selector in
evolution: the survival of the fittest.  Now we have all these weenies
walking around eternally sick with one cold, infection, affliction
after another, and instead of taking it like a man (??) they run to
the doctor and continue their sick, pitiful, lives, DEPENDANT on that
drug that saved them.  

Yuk yuk. Sarcasm, doncha know. 

amy
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery)
Subject: Re: fun with inhalants
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 06:48:44 GMT

I just sent this letter to

fordam@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu

Hello,

er, I did "plastic wood" and rubber cement very frequently
in 9th grade.  I later learned, from several reputable sources
(that I trust) that inhalants have greater physical-and-brain
damage potential than ANY OF THE OTHER COMMONLY ABUSED DRUGS.

I think it is genuinely bad for a person, although I wish I could
remember why ;-)

There is some sort of syndrome seen in the 3rd world from
teens sniffing gasoline (THE cheapest drug there is) that involves
some kind of permanent brain damage.

anyway, geez, find something else, anything else!

I recommend Robitussin (or generic).  it is a more sensual experience
all around (even comes with visions if you close your eyes -at least at 4 oz)

have good things!
-treon

P.S.  volatile solvents really ARE BAD NEWS.  If you need more info, I'll
be glad to find it for you.  don't kill your spark.
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: questions from NY
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:44:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

cereal@phantom.com (Cereal Killer) writes:
: 
: >  2.  What is the best why to store doses?
: >  
: 
: In a toaster oven set to "warm"  this will keep your acid fresh and  
: effective for extended periods.
: 

I think this was meant to be sarcastic.  It might last a couple of days
that way.  Put it in a 35mm film can with an envelope of dessicant in
a non-self-defrosting freezer.  It'll last forever.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Reply-To: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:15:24 GMT

In article <ISBELL.92Apr14143429@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu> 
               isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>
>> Can anyone name one black leader who supports legalization besides
>> Mayor Schomke? I asked this question about a year ago and no names 
>> surfaced.

> That depends.  Do I count?

Hell yes. 

Two names. Any more?

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: astiles@isis.cs.du.edu (adam stiles)
Subject: Re: Rococan /Cloud Swept
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:03:49 GMT


Never tried Rococan nor Cloudswept, but I have tried Yuba Gold. It doesn't
roll well {not as soft as the tobacco you have to put in a j.} It didn't
have much effect on me either. SDeemed to get my mate going, but he's like
he's permanently stoned anyway .......

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: MDMA alternative?: a rat example
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 12:03:22 GMT

In article <31468@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       ) writes:
>2. Nichols DE; Brewster WK; Johnson MP; Oberlender R; Riggs RM.
>     Nonneurotoxic tetralin and indan analogues of
>   3,4-(methylenedioxy)amphetamine (MDA).
>     Journal of Medicinal Chemistry, 1990 Feb, 33(2):703-10.
>     Unique ID:  90133772.

>	What do you think of this?

I think somebody should try them.  Studying the effects of a proposed
entactogen in a *rat* is pretty damn silly.  The rats are probably
cuing on the stimulant and euphoriant effects, which really is not
what people are interested in.  Anybody doing any drug trials in
humans in the LA area?

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: A question about nutmeg...
From: carioli@cs.unibo.it (Gabriele Carioli)
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:04:50 +0100
Distribution: alt
Keywords: nutmeg

Can anyone tell me somethig about nutmeg (ground or 'space taste')?

							Thanks


						carioli@cs.unibo.it
From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: You All Suck
Keywords: Penis, phallus
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:38:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr15.203859.1399
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Originator: jon@cyclone


In article <1992Apr15.151218.3890@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v116hgth@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Julie A Darmody) writes:
> Drugs are killing are children!!!!! 

Think of it as evolution in action.
-- 

<jon@mitre.org>
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From: allens@yang.earlham.edu (Allen Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Input sought on drug legalization: detection/
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:57:14 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Apr6.171504.24044@ncsu.edu>, dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
> alexc@yang.earlham.edu (Sperminator) writes:
> 
>> On his way 
>> home, he stopped at a stop sign, and noticed that he was beside a police 
>> car.  as he stopped, the bike fell over, onto the cop car.  He was given a 
>> dui under the VA state law that a bicycle is a motor vehicle.
> 
> Why is that a "stupid" DUI arrest? A bicycle IS a vehicle, and the operator 
> has to obey ALL of the traffic laws on the public roads, just like every 
> other vehicle operator. Bicycle operators are not exempted from obeying 
> stop lights, signs, reckless operation, etc., so why should they be 
> exempted from obeying DUI laws? 

	Well, it's significantly less dangerous for a car to run into a 
bicycle (at least for the car's occupants) than for a car to run into 
another car. A drunken bicyclist generally only causes problems for the 
bicyclist.
	-Allen
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Any hempseed recipes out there?
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:27:40 GMT

rizzojp@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jon Rizzo) writes:
>I don't know about eating them, but I know smoking them causes sterility
>over an extended period.

I hope you were joking...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)
University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Virtual Reality and Hallucinogens
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 05:22:20 GMT

I was wondering if anyone out there has ever experienced virtual reality while
"under the influence" of hallucinogenic drugs (tripping, stoned, or
what-have-you), or even an empathinogen (or whatever X is called...).  The
similarities between the acid culture of the 60's and the evolving VR culture
of the 90's interests me a lot, and I was wondering if anyone has tried
combining the two yet....

Anyway, I'd be interested in hearing experiences (either e-mail or post) that
you or a FOAF has had.

(calling all CyberLeary's!!)

--


ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu						andy

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Another democracy bites the dust
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:49:32 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Apr6.162307.39081@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dougm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> According to CNN at noon on Monday April 6, 1992, Pres. Alberto Fujumora of
> Peru has suspended the Peruvian Congress, placed prominent opposition leaders
> under arrest, and has suspended the constitution.  He was supported in his
> takeover by the Peruvian military, who's tanks were to be seen in the streets
> of the capitol.
> 
> Pres. Bush commented that the move is regrettable and a step backward.

	I think "takeover" is a misnomer.  He was already Pres.  More like the
assumption of dictatorial powers.  (For those of you who think absence of
denial equals support, yes I think that is bad.)

> 
> "I don't know that athiests should be considered citizens, nor
> should they be considered patriots.  This is one nation under God."
> 					Pres. George Bush

	Reason enough not to vote for the bigot.

Brett
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From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: kids and LSD
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:47:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsu.1992Apr9.184742.5887
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr8.110930.6056@leland.Stanford.EDU> chaz@leland.Stanford.EDU (charles andre) writes:
>Hi,
>
>    I don't usually read this group, but I subscribed because I have
>a question.  I have a friend who's 14, and he's starting to
>experiment with drugs (mostly pot and laughing gas).  Now he is
>talking about trying acid.    He also tells me that a lot
> of people at his school are into acid.
>       This sort of surprised me, because when I was in high
>scool (ug, the 70's) lots of people were smoking pot and drinking,
>but not that many people were  dropping LSD.  Also, this guy tells
>me that some of his friends have been dropping acid since 7th grade (!)
>   so my question is, does anybody have experience of doing acid since
>an early age?  Is there any evidence that acid could be more harmful
>to the brain of a young kid/teenager as opposed to the effects
>on the adult brain?  What do you all think?  Thanks in advance for
>any information.

The first time I did acid was around 14/15.  I don't think he'll have a problem
as long as he's with good friends who are, as it seems to be apparent,
experienced trippers.  I've tripped maybe 50 times before I was 18.

Age doesn't mean a whole lot.

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes piece on the Forfeiture Law
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:02:49 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Apr13.122339.13721@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.195034.21409@Cadence.COM>, phz@cadence (Pete Zakel) writes:
>>I agree, it is very, very bad law, very, very bad legal precedent, and very,
>>very bad justice.
>
>If the Supreme Court has indeed judged on civil forfeiture, obviously
>one of the important parts of the system has failed (Supreme Courty
>ignores the Constitution, or part of) and there's even more need to
>apply one of those checks and balances.  As also the right to a trial
>by jury is ignored here, jury nullification can't be used either.
>
>What other checks and balances there are which might be used in this
>particular failure mode of the system?  It seems that as the system is
>malfunctioning in other places also you're in a bit of a hurry before
>all the checks and balances will be ignored much the same way the IV
>and V amendments are by the civil forfeiture - if the system continues
>to have these numerous malfunctions it probably will crash soon and
>it'll need to be rebooted much the same way it was first created.

When all three branches of the government support such a thing, there
are, unfortunately, just two alternatives

1) Agitate politically for replacement of the executive and
legislative branches.  This has already failed, as ALL the candidates
with a chance to win support this kind of thing.

2) Revolution.


-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
From: alexc@yang.earlham.edu (Sperminator)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Tv and it's influence.
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:59:44 GMT
 <1992Apr1.151143.12087@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> <1992Apr1.195915.226@cnsvax.uwec.edu> <1992Apr2.043602.12957@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana


     In relation to this post I must state that I agree wholeheartedly.  
For most of my life i did not watch TV; we had a television in my house 
but I wasn't allowed to watch much more than once a month or so (not 
counting sesame street, mr. rogers, and electric company when I was very 
young).  Now I watch whenever I feel like it, but my problem is getting 
away from the thing.  Once I start watching I rarely leave for a while, 
even if the show is rather lame.  I can of course, I just usually don't.  
Hence I watch rather rarely.  For fun a book or hanging out with my 
friends is much more fun.  Television can be very insidious and 
potentially harmful if abused, but I do feel that this is not inherent; it 
is a result of the types of programming available.  With a better 
selection of shows, I could even see it being very good. As it stands 
today, however, it is one of the most biased and worst forms of 
communication known.

alex MADMAN chermside
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Choline and smart drugs
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 11:57:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.221653.13443@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@isis.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
> Choline is a precursor to the neurotransmitter, acetylcholine (ACh).
>In studies on memory drugs that enhance levels of ACh in the brain, were 
>shown to enhance short term memory retention. This study was conducted

The question: does taking precursors increase neurotransmitter levels?

>   St. Anthony

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:26:04 GMT
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

>lots of people have good jobs from drugs being illegal; and there is
>a large group of people making money from the trade. these two things
>(the police and organized crime bureaucracies (if the latter can be so
>referred to)) are the biggest obstacles to the legalization of all drugs.

DEA, which has had more money from forfeitures since 1986 that is
going out, perhaps is one in the latter category.  CIA probably needs
to be counted in also as one of the benefitors, as well as many of the
governments in the world (the demon drugs are a very good way of
making people accept harsh measures to fight crimes).

>there is an alternative to the legalization of drugs; a more or less
>totalitarian state. I agree that drugs will eventually be legalized.
>Unfortunately, I see a period of effective fascism before this happens
>(and possibly a revolution).

Sad to say, you are perhaps right.  Talking about USA, the major power
behind the international prohibition, I'm just afraid that this will
reflect on the rest of the world just as the prohibition has been
reflected to the rest of the world.  A revolution in a country with
such military power doesn't sound exactly tempting to the rest of the
world either - I hope there's still some other way.

//Jyrki
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From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: WARNING ! Hot New Drug of Abuse
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:03:18 GMT

In article <sxrjp+d.rcain@netcom.com>, rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
[The subject is "Air Abuse"] ...
> I have done this and it is truly heavy duty.  There is a process called
> "rebirthing" wherein you hyperventilate pretty intensely in a hot tub
> for one full hour!  It goes way beyond tingly.  Near total paralysis
> sets in.  It is very similar to Ketamine.  I remained as lucid for the
> most part as I ever am.  There were some moments during the last 15
> minutes that got pretty trippy though.  Thoughts became somewhat
> disconnected and flowing as with Ketamine.  When done for rebirthing,
> it is done several times and leads many people to believe they re-
> experience their birth.  The experience seems a common one.  I only
> did it once and skipped the next session because I'm a pretty heavy
> smoker and the stretching caused me pretty severe lung pain for several
> days.  I have another appointment tonight but am hesitant because of
> the subsequent discomfort I experienced.  A non-smoker probably would
> have no problem.  A 6 or 7 as trips go in my book.  I have absolutely
> no idea whether it could be dangerous but it is verrry intense so 
> something physiologically powerful is happening.

	Sounds interesting. Someone should write-out some instructions
	so the kiddies in Palm Beach can get the best benifits of their
	new found 'dope'. The tub thing could be dangerous if done alone
	however - there is too much chance of passing-out and drowning
	yourself. As for the lung prob ... take a couple tabs of something
	called 'Superoxide Dismutase' (SOD) availible at many health-food
	and vitamin stores just before the excercise. This minimizes 
	oxygen damage to the lungs. 

-- Jim Mason : Standard Disclaimers
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ajd@itl.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano)
Subject: Re: marijuana, alcohol and driving
Organization: asji09 4uewikoslhkjn 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 04:13:06 GMT

etheridg@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Jennifer Etheridge) wrote:
]If auto accidents are the main concern in the legalization issue,
]why bother those who smoke (or drink, or snort, or shoot up, or
]whatever) in the privacy of their own home and never go out on
]the road while intoxicated? He said, "Sure, it sounds good. But
]how would you enforce dui laws? How would a cop know when someone
]was stoned?" How would you folks respond to this?

It's a good question.

I don't know if, aside from detecting dope smoke on somebody's breath,
there is a way to check for somebody being stoned while at the roadside.

On the other hand, there are already generous amounts of laws concerning
reckless endangerment in every state in the union, and I don't think that
there would be much difficulty in arresting somebody simply for driving
dangerously.

It brings up the issue of whether a person ought to be arrested simply
for driving while intoxicated, even if there was no danger.  I'm sure that
you could find people who feel that DUI laws as they stand now are threats
to personal freedoms for this reason.

It should be simple to append current laws so that a person arrested for
reckless endangerment would receive a harsher penalty if the person is
found to be stoned or on some other drug.  In fact, I think that this has
already been done in most states.

AjD
(for the record, I think that anybody who knowingly drives in traffic
while intoxicated on anything is by definition a dangerous fool.)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.cyberpunk
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality and Hallucinogens
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:43:50 GMT

mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik) writes:
>BTW I saw _Lawnmower Man_ and yes, it sucked.

I saw it stoned, and it wasn't all that bad.  The monkey in the beginning
was the best part, though...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)
University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
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