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From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: RESCUERS DOWN UNDER
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:17:12 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

	Sorry for the lateness of the reply -- just got back from
vacation!

In article <1992Dec23.104735.15026@news2.cis.umn.edu>, avatar@wings.micro.umn.edu (Timothy Fay) writes:
> Tom Hancock (hancock@inland.com) wrote:
>>In article <1992Dec18.162137.21431@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>>>                                               , but I didn't care
>>> much for the plot or the characterizations (unlike, say, THE GREAT
>>> MOUSE DETECTIVE).
>>
>>	The plots for both were pretty standard.  I contend that, for a
>>comedy/adventure movie, plot and characterization come secondary to the
>>action and comedy.
> 
> A lot of producers and directors seem to think so, which is why many
> comedy/adventure movies are lame and uninteresting.  But the truly _great_
> comedy and/or adventure films have good plots and interesting characters
> (my favorite example is Peter Bogdonovich's WHAT'S UP, DOC?).
> 
> Likewise, THE GREAT MOUSE DETECTIVE is a good film because its main
> character, Basil of Baker Street, is a very interesting and enjoyable
> character; much more so than relatively shallow characters like Belle
> and the Beast from you-know-what-film.

	I think I mis-spoke when I used the word "characterization".
"Character development" comes a little closer to what I had in mind.
Comedy/adventure films must certainly present interesting and exciting
characters to the audience.  
> 
>>Some of the greatest adventure movies of all time have
>>very little plot and no characterization or character development --
>>look at the "Indiana Jones" movies.
> 
> Must I? :)  Seriously, though: that is precisely why I don't like "Indiana
> Jones" movies--they have little plot and no characterization.  Being "popular"
> and being "great" are two different things.  The "Indiana Jones" movies are
> popular, but they aren't what I would consider "great" films.
>
	I think we're arguing apples and oranges here, too.  *One* of the
tests of a "great" film (or a "great" anything) is how close it comes to
fulfilling it's goals (IMHO, of course).  If the film intends to be
nothing but a brainless bit of entertainment, and succeeds, it can be
called a "great" film.  The "Indiana Jones" and "Star Wars" movies can
be put in this catagory.

	BTW, I watched "Mouse Detective" over the Christmas Holidays.  I
remain unrepentant.  RDU is a better film than TGMD, IMHO. :)  I do *love*
the voice of the little girl, Olivia Flavasham, though.

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From: mfrose@ais.org (Martin Rose)
Subject: Re: BTAS:  The Laughing Fish
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:48:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.023925.17560@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.190133.11969@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) writes:
>> 
>> Sunday night.  Accd to TV Guide's description, it's a new Joker episode
>> (Joker wants a patent on a chemical that makes fish get rictus grins,
>> and holds something/one hostage until he gets it).
>
>"The Laughing Fish"!  A really odd Joker story from the comic.

Well, TV Guide's synopsis left something to be desired.  There probably
would have been no problem patenting the chemical, but the Joker just wanted
to get some royalties from the fact that all the fish LOOKED like him.

Was it just me, or did Dong Yang do an OUTSTANDING job on this episode?  The
atmosphere was as dark as ever, and the horrific effects of the Joker's
toxin (which, for wwant of a better name, I shall dub "Smilex" B) ) were
very well rendered.  I just about freaked when Bats started giggling after
the cat jumped him...

Update for the Harley Quinn Fact File:  she doesn't like fish. ^_^
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: BTAS: Laughing Fish
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:51:04 GMT

WOW!  This was a GREAT episode!  The plot was well-adapted, the scripting 
superb, and the lethality level almost believable.
     It's hard to concisely rave about this one, you have to see it to believe 
it.
     Dave Van Domelen, "Meanwhile, back at the wrench..." - Joker, trying to 
bean Batman with a wrench
From: eilan@wright.seas.ucla.edu (Edward I. Lan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Pirates of Darkwater
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:03:30 GMT
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Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


During last Sunday morning, I was watching the Pirates of Darkwater
,and I glanced through the credits to see that Jodi Benson was listed
as one of the voices on the show.  By the way she did The Little
Mermaid and the Broadway musical Crazy for You.  If anybody knows what 
part she play and the description of the character, please e-mail me.
(I know somebody out there taped all the episodes of the show.)

-e.l.
From: megazone@banzai.WPI.EDU (MegaZone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: WANTED: Robotech-original movie
Date: 12 Jan 1993 20:22:20 GMT
Organization: WPI Discordian Society, Undocumented Cabal
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In article <shong-120193133801@macb02.bucknell.edu> shong@bucknell.edu (SHER) writes:
>Does anyone have the original Robotech movie?  I think it's subtitled? I
>could be wrong.  Does anyone have all the episodes of the series (I,II and
>III) on tape?  I would gladly pay for blank tapes and shipping costs. 

Be careful here.... You seem to be refering to Macross the Movie, the original
Japanese movie.. of course made AFTER the MAcross TV series... You do know that
Robotech was three unrelated TV series link by a new plot right? Macross the
movie is available in japanese, and there may be a fan subtitled version out
there. There is also a dubbed circulating that is available officially in an
editied form as Clash of the Bionoids.

There was also Robotech: The Movie which was MegaZone23 art 1 with a new
ending and some other footage added. This is not publically available. (Thank
goddess...)

The episodes for Macross were released some time ago heavily cut by FHE. Then
Palladium books release Southern Cross and The New Generation. Now the rights
are all with Streamline Pictures, and they are rereleasing all the episodes
again.

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From: berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: XTAS drivel (Was Re: Fox's MIGHTY MOUSE)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:36:14 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University
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stailey@comm.mot.com writes:
>(Karl F. Meyers) writes:
>>I've said it once, and I'll say it again - would you mind telling me how
>>this program is supposedly the favorite program of all of Fox's cartoons
>>on the strength of two rather poor episodes?  There must be a *lot* of
>>deluded Marvel fanboys out there, if this drivel is what they prefer.
>Bingo! Though, keep in mind these are mostly 10-15 year olds we
>are talking about. And to think that Marvel is shifting is focus
>to target this demographic for 1993. As if what they are producing
>now isn't cheesy enough.

I disagree with the "10-15" age-group -- I think's it's a bit
younger than that.  Also, let's keep in mind how votes were taken:
By mail-in, or at drop-boxes at McDonald's.  With this in mind, I
think it's safe to say that X-Men was more likely to get votes just
because of how votes were called for, not by pure ratings, or viewer
loyalty.  Otherwise, Tiny Toons and Batman (with loyal adult
followings) would have scored much higher, IMHO.

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From: currmann@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Curtis Hoffmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: New stuff
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:19:36 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.


   For anyone that's interested:

   Bud Plant has a new catalog out: The Comic Art Update.  It includes a wide
variety of art book type art books, animation history books, and some
commercially subtitled anime tapes.
   Bud Plant Comic Art
   PO Box 1689
   Grass Valley, CA 95945

   On a different note, I also received the 1992 Screen Cartoonists Annual. 
In a way, the annual is little more than propaganda piece for the Screen
Cartoonists Union in California.  It also contains a fair number of typos and
cases where words have been left out of sentences (enough to make the results
look a bit cheesy.)  But there's also a fair amount of GREAT character
sketches and archival photos.  And a few good articles that illustrate the
history of animation in the U.S., plus some amusing anecdotes from some of the
animators and directors.  A little pricey at $13.50, but you're not going to
find this material anywhere else for ANY price...

Motion Picture Screen Cartoonists, Local 839 IATSE
4729 Lankershim Blvd.
North Hollywood, CA
91602


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From: Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb)
Subject: Re: Aladdin: Oh Baby!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:06:01 GMT

> Edwin Chen writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1993Jan4.091608.25599@leland.Stanford.EDU>
> Posted: Mon, 4 Jan 93 09:16:08 G
>
> Org.  : DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
>
> In article <90046@bcsaic.boeing.com> vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann
> VanOver) writes:
> >Wow!  All these men have posted on the beauty of Jasmine, but not one
> >lustful comment for our hero, Aladdin!  Shame on you, ladies!
> >
> >I thought he was WONDERFUL!  His hair, his smile.  A little on the
> >"scrawny" side for me, but the Prince Ali outfit more than made up for
> >it.  As he stands below the balcony -- oops -- spoiler
>
> I believe an article in TV Guide said the animators drew Aladdin
> by using the features of Tom Cruise.  Interesting, eh?


well, that gives me a reason not to see the film... if he looked more like
Tim Robbins, well... that'd be different!

I'll go anyway. :)

*j*  :)

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From: avatar@wings.micro.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Fox's MIGHTY MOUSE ... R.I.P.?
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:22:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota
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Danny Jordan (djordan@loligo.cc.fsu.edu) wrote:
>  I wrote Fox a few weeks ago commending them on showing Mighty Mouse and
> hoping they would continue to air it, I even hinted that they should hire
> John K. and give him his own show. I think I'm gonna write another letter
> now, I suggest y'all do the same.

Good idea!  What's their address?

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From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: Don Bluth Space Ace cel for sale...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:43:51 GMT
Distribution: na

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    I have an original framed cel from Don Bluth's Space Ace video game, which
I MUST part with.  The cel shows Ace and Kimmy on a motorcycle (from the cycle
chase scene).  Both are face front (toward the viewer) and smiling.  I'm
asking $220 obo.  Please contact me if interested.

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From: burtle@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William J. Burtle)
Subject: What is this christmas special?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:40:51 GMT

We are looking for the name, and information about availability
for purchase, of a TV Christmas special from about 5 years ago.

It was in stop-frame animation style, and featured a girl's collection
of dolls from past christmases.  The older dolls were explaining to
the most recent doll (a teddy bear) that the girl would toss it aside
for the new christmas doll.  One scene featured the bear and another
doll sneaking down the stairs to open the wrapped new doll, which 
turned out to be a female warrior in the She-Ra style.  

Can anyone identify this?

Thanks,

burtle@uiuc.edu


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From: djordan@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Danny Jordan)
Subject: Re: Fox's MIGHTY MOUSE ... R.I.P.?
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 09:09:31 GMT

In article <SYNTH.93Jan6140642@deepthought.unm.edu> synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:
>
>My local Fox affiliate (KGSW in Albuquerque) just informed me that Fox
>pulled NAMM as of last week to make way for the XMEN animated series.
>It seems that Fox had intended to run NAMM only as filler during that
>timeslot while they waited on XMEN.  KGSW didn't know if Fox intends
>to bring back Mighty Mouse later on, or even if they intend to complete
>the initial run of episodes.

  I wrote Fox a few weeks ago commending them on showing Mighty Mouse and
 hoping they would continue to air it, I even hinted that they should hire
 John K. and give him his own show. I think I'm gonna write another letter
 now, I suggest y'all do the same.

  -Danny
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From: philo@orion.IntelliCorp.COM (Philip R. Obermarck)
Subject: Re: Aladdin: Oh Baby!
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:17:14 GMT
Reply-To: pobermarck@intellicorp.com
Organization: IntelliCorp Inc.

bunnyman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edwin Chen) writes:
|> 
|> I believe an article in TV Guide said the animators drew Aladdin
|> by using the features of Tom Cruise.  Interesting, eh?

Actually, that is what they did NOT do.  What was said was that Michael
Eisner's concept of Disney heroes is that they should look like Tom Cruise.

This time, they made Aladdin look more like the actor who does his voice.

I paraprased this from an interview on ET with said actor (whose name 
I've forgotten).


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From: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: "Person to Bunny" question
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

To: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)

JAK>Okay, I was watching Looney Tunes on FOX today, and they showed
JAK>"Person to Bunny," a short starring Bugs Bunny with Elmer Fudd
JAK>and Daffy Duck, where one Mr. Burroughs (sp?) is interviewing
JAK>Bugs from his studio, with Bugs in his little rabbit hole.

JAK>Is this a reference to a similar show that was popular back when
JAK>this short was made?  Probably called something like "Person to
JAK>Person"?

Yep. Person To Person. It was an early tv show that went to celebrities
homes and interviewed them. An early-day "Lifestyles Of The Rich &
Famous".

JAK>Anyway, Daffy calls Mr. Burroughs "Edgar R. Burroughs" at one point.
JAK>Is that the same ERB that wrote those Tarzan and Martian books,
JAK>and did he really host an interview show back then?

That's a two-prong joke. Edward R. Morrow (sp?) was the host of the
real show (have to look it up). Edgar R(ice) Burroughs was indeed the
pen name used by the creator of Tarzan, John Carter Of Mars, etc.. Also,
you could hear it as "burrows", a hole in the ground (rabbit hole).


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From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin: Oh Baby!
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:19:40 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>Cruise as Aladdin???  I find that HARD to believe.  Aladdin's much more 
>attractive!!  And charming!

Yeah, and we don't have to worry about rude stories about him in 
the National Enquirer!
From: tdinh@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Ota-kun)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: WANTED: Robotech-original movie
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:43:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <shong-120193133801@macb02.bucknell.edu> shong@bucknell.edu (SHER) writes:
>Does anyone have the original Robotech movie?  I think it's subtitled? I
>could be wrong.  Does anyone have all the episodes of the series (I,II and
>III) on tape?  I would gladly pay for blank tapes and shipping costs. 
>Thanks in advance!

Trust me, you DON'T want to see the Robotech Movie...It's worse than
horrible, and that's pretty bad, wouldn't you agree. It was dubbed
by Carl Macek(of all people) using footage from several japanese
anime shows. If you want to know more, you should as rec.arts.anime.
They specialize in such things.

As for Robotech episodes, Streamline has just released two special
editions. One contains four episodes of Robotech per tape for
$19.95. They have this for Macross, Southern Cross, and Mospeada.

The other is the Perfect Collection, which has 2 episodes of
Robotech per tape and 2 subtitled episodes of the corresponding
Japanese episode. Also for $19.95. You should check it out...

Sorry for the bandwith people...

					Thien

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From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Alladin not married to Jasmine in the series
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:39:37 GMT


On Sat, 2 Jan 1993, nicholas@wam.umd.edu (Ronnie Simonds) posts:
>... according to people working on the Disney Afternoon series, Alladin
>will NOT be married to Jasmine, so he's still available. :)

Hmmm.  That's rather disappointing to me.  It'd be nice to have an animated 
series on with a young married couple whose love wasn't in question, as opposed 
to a standard, semi-close, still-not-sure-of-themselves romance.  It's such a 
different relationship once you're married -- it's be great to have that 
between them as they went on their adventures or whatever they do in the 
series.

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From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Looking for early 80's "Candie" References / Tapes
Keywords: Candie
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:03:17 GMT

	Hi

	Long long ago, The french TV was playing this Cartoon Called
	( in french ) "Candie" , it featured the adventure of a young
	girl first in her shelter house and then in college and nursing
	school. I thought it would be great if someone here could help
	me on finding "who did produce this serie ( long )" "where to
	find documents/reference on it ( in any language" and finally
	"Where could i get tapes" . I know such tapes existed , for seeing
	them as I was still a child, but i  dont seem to find them here in
	Americana.


	Thanks A lot !

	O.


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From: mab@wdl39.wdl.loral.com (Mark A Biggar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Fish question
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:51:18 GMT
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs

In article <C0oCur.F9I@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul M. Minutillo) writes:
>Ooops! Here's something I forgot to put in my original post! What was 
>wrong when the Joker was riding the fishing machine to the ceiling? On
>slo-mo on my VCR it looked like he looked up and then some water came
>gushing thru the windows??? I couldn't figure out what happened to smash
>up the fishing machine like it was at the end. Seems to me the Joker 
>would have had the ceiling window open and it should have been an easy
>getaway....

He looks up as he strats to rise, gets a dismayed look on his face they show
fast shot of the skylight boarded up, then cut to what was happening below.
I saw all that  just watching the show.

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