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From: TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: T-1000 vs. The Blob?
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:49:32 GMT
Organization: Mindcrime
X-Subliminal-Message: Marhefkasnot!

In article <8r5tqt=@rpi.edu>, cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) says:
>
>I think an interesting, "even" match-up would be the T-1000 vs. the Blob--
>both work on the "small bits can reform" principles...  Now who would win?

Go Blob!!!

Brika Bracka
Firecracka'
Sis-Boom-Bah!
Blob!  Blob!
Rah! Rah! Rah!

(Gosh I hate threads like these...)
Seriously, they are getting a bit away from the movie concept.
Most of them just lead to posts like this, which really don't have mush to say,
and probably will result in flame wars (i.e. Enterprise vs. Galactica:   That
would be a fun argument...).

Perhaps there should be an alt.who.would.win group???

BTW, I really like the new version of the Blob. The original was great, but the
new one made it more scary, so to speak.

 Sime

 "If there's a new way,
  I'll be the first in line"        "Now there is a school that
                                     self-destructed not because
 "A couple grains of powder,         society didn't care, but
  A couple grams of lead,            because the school _was_
  A touch against the trigger,       society.  Pretty deep, huh?"
  A touch inside your head"                   -J.D.
         -Megadeth                             in "Heathers"
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From: u906789@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner)
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:45:45 GMT

lb2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louis Blair) writes:

>Another school of thought is that the second movie
>involves the results of a second time machine.

In the novel, both terminators are sent one after the other, with the T-1000    sent only microseconds before Skynet was destroyed.

>>if flesh covered metal can go
>>back, why not send a phased plasma rifle back with Reese
>>in T1?  Or with the T500 in T2?  Just cover it in synth-flesh...

>This is a variation on the question for the first movie:  Why
>didn't Skynet put a phased plasma rifle inside a kangaroo
>and send it back for Arnold to use?  Numerous answers
>have been proposed.  My favorite is to suppose that the
>process of getting living material to take dead material
>back in time is more complicated than a simple matter
>of surrounding.  Perhaps it takes months of preparation
>to properly link living tissue with a metal object so that
>they both go back in time together.  With its defenses
>crumbling, Skynet may have been in too much of a
>hurry to bother with this.  Another idea is that Skynet
>weapons depend on broadcast power, not available in
>the past.  Some people have suggested that Skynet
>may have been afraid of causing too much disruption
>of the past time-line with technology from the future.
>Finally, some think that Skynet simply thought that
>sending a weapon back was not necessary.

The last is the best theory. Although in The Terminator it asks the gun shop
owner for a "phased plasma rifle" 
>>Also, why do all Terminators look like Arnie.

>>Ok, why doesn't it kill her outright as soon as it can, after all,
>>it 'samples' her in the lift in the assylum.  It could have killed
>>her, and pretended to be her, crying out to John, as opposed to
>>torturing her.  (I don't believe it gets some weird kind of pleasure
>>from this!)

>As far as I know, two explanations have been proposed for
>this:

>(1)  After having been frozen, some of the liquid metal man's
>systems were not working as well as before.  Rather than
>try something that might not work, the liquid metal man
>decided to try and use the authentic mother's voice to lure
>John back.  Later, with the mother no longer available,
>and after having had more time to do detailed system repair
>the liquid metal man decided to go ahead with an attempted
>imitation.

>(2)  On an earlier occasion, the liquid metal man had tried
>to do an imitation of someone close to John and John had
>become suspicious.  The liquid metal man may have felt
>that rather than risk giving itself away because of some
>subtle nuance of human behavior it would be at least worth
>a try to use the authentic mother to call John back.

(3) The T-1000 hasn't heard Sarah's voice yet so it needs to get Sarah to say 
something so it can imitate her voice.

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From: cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg)
Subject: The Blood of Heroes
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:08:31 GMT

Has anyone besides myself seen "The Blood of Heroes" with Rutger Hauer?

Do any of the above people actually like it?

Does anyone think the sport of "Jugging" would be a really cool replacement
for Monday Night Football?

...Paul  (Thought this place needed a new kind of message besides "X vs. X"
          and "I hate X vs. X message" messages...)

|FQT 1.10| Do not Disturb.  Already Disturbed.

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From: TX.DH1@isumvs.iastate.edu (mara jade)
Subject: STAR WARS CANON/SW NEWSGROUP
Isu.market: 514
Alt.paranormal: 3181
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Isu.newsgroups: 563
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:34:10 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
From: msandlin@EMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL (Sandlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: RE: Rocky Horror Picture Show
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:18:34 GMT


In response to my questions on the Rocky Horror Picture Show,
v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:

>    I didn't get the feeling that Brad and Janet were the first to
>    fall into his diabolical clutches - I always thought all those
>    people "at the master's affair" in the beginning were
>    Earthpeople he'd perverted. The only true Transexual-ites were
>    Frank, Columbia (or was it Magenta?  The one in the maid's 
>    outfit - "I'm lucky, he's lucky, we're allllll luuuuckyyy!,"
>    that one) and - jesus I'm forgetting names left and right
>    here, the one who answers the door and starts "Time Warp."


I think this basic premise is wrong. As Brad and Janet are heading
toward a dead end, they encounter a group of motorcyclists coming
from the dead end. Later, these motorcycles are seen at Frank's
castle and the "master's affair" is just getting started.
Presumably, these motorcyclists were beaming in from Transsexual
and they returned after Frank and Rocky retired to their honeymoon
chamber. I had never considered that these people could have come
from Earth, I always thought they were Transsexual party aliens.

It's true that the only Transsexual-ites left after the party were
Frank, Riff-Raff (the handyman that answered the door) and Riff-
Raff's sister, Magenta (a maid). The only other Earthpeople that
had fallen under Frank's spell were Columbia (a groupie) and Eddie,
but I seriuosly doubt that either required much perverting to get
them to join the group. 

Mike Sandlin
msandlin@email.ncsc.navy.mil
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <9204152029.AA02314@email.ncsc.navy.mil>, msandlin@EMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL (Sandlin) writes...

>1.  What was Dr. Frank N. Furter's mission to Earth? Surely he
>didn't come here to create Rocky, he could have done that just as
>easily on Transsexual and saved himself the trouble of moving the
>equipment plus the travel expenses for the conventioneers that came
>to watch. Perhaps the mission was to subvert and pervert Earth, the
>Floor Show kind of hints at that, and perhaps Brad and Janet were
>just the first to fall into his trap, but was Rocky part of this
>deviant scheme?

     Nope, not to create Rocky.  I think you've pretty much got
     the idea, though.  I didn't get the feeling that Brad and
     Janet were the first to fall into his diabolical clutches -
     I always thought all those people "at the master's affair"
     in the beginning were Earthpeople he'd perverted.
     The only true Transexual-ites were Frank, Columbia (or was it
     Magenta?  The one in the maid's outfit - "I'm lucky, he's lucky,
     we're allllll luuuuckyyy!," that one) and - jesus I'm forgetting
     names left and right here, the one who answers the door and
     starts "Time Warp."

>2.  Was Dr Scott truly paralyzed or was that just part of his CIA
>cover that he could no longer maintain once he experienced the
>deviant rush of wearing a garter belt and black stockings with high
>heels? If he was paralyzed, was it this sudden thrill of perversion
>that overcame his paralysis [...]

     Yes, one or the other.  It's nicely ambiguous.
>3.  Finally, what of the Floor Show? What was its original and,
>perhaps, diabolical intent?
>4.  Will Brad and Janet ever, perhaps secretly, do the Time Warp
>agai     paid atention to that last number - it's boring...n?
     Good question.  I should think so, but I've never really



                ^She's My Cousin But Doesn't She^
                      ^Look Almost Exactly^
           ____________^Like Laura Palmer^____________
          ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu^
From: dtgordon@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: T2 Questions
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:10:29 GMT
Organization: Trinity College Dublin




	O.K. That's it. Could someone PLEASE set up an FAQL
	for T2 so that we don't have the same questions over 
	and over again. Normally I wouldn't mind but the 
	'T-1000 organic or not' and 'why didn't Sarah die'
	have been asked A FEW times already

--
| Gene Roddenberry (1921-1991) | He was a man, take him for all in   |
|		               | all, I shall not look upon his like |
|    <DTGORDON@vax1.tcd.ie>    | again.       **Hamlet I, i**        |
From: adamson2720@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Kenner Star Wars:where's yak face?????
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:40:11 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Those of you who collected the Kenner line of Star Wars figures may be able to
help me out on this one...does anyone remember a doll getting made of YAK
FACE??  I never saw it in the stores, despite it being pictured and named as a
doll in their line on the back of those packages.  Upon writing a letter to
Kenner, they feigned ignorance.  After I sent them a Xerox copy of the package,
the story changed to "oh, that doll was sold only in England."  Their changing
claims made me suspicious and I can't help but feel there are YAK FACES
floating around out there.  Can anyone help??

Peter Adamson
University of Northern Iowa
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From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Batman vs. Spiderman
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:44:40 GMT



   If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is much stronger
and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of gadgets and his studly armour. 
Both are brilliant (remember, Peter Parker was a science grad student) but
Batman is much shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?

--
Richard J. Rauser   "I like fighting Chun Li.
rauser@sfu.ca        Especially when I slide under her legs and glance up."
WNI                                            -Dhalsim
From: bailey@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (Matthew Bailey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:03:54 GMT
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science


tperreau@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (The Mad Scot) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.071804.5596@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bcg42647@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hasaneenee Dingo ) writes:
>>agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (paul-michael agapow) writes:
>>
>>><rauser.702945880@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>>>>
>>>>   If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is much stronger
>>>>and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of gadgets and his studly armour. 
>>>>Both are brilliant (remember, Peter Parker was a science grad student) but
>>>>Batman is much shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
>>>>fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?
>>
>>>What i really want to know is, if the Ewoks fought the Smurfs, who would
>>>win? Like while the Ewoks are hardened combat veterans, and might have a
>>>few ATTs still hanging around, the Smurfs have magic and the wisdom of
>>>Grandpa Smurf. And of course they could always distract the ewoks with
>>>Smurfette and make a flanking attack. But the Ewoks could probably
>>>convince the Care-Bears to join their side which would even up the fight.
>>>i'm not sure if ET would join the Smurf side, he/it might hire him/itself
>>>out as a mercenary to either side, and since neither side has a monetary
>>>system, this would present problems. 
>>
>>>So what do you think?
>>
>>I believe the Alliance kept all the AT-ST's for themself, so the Ewoks are
>>down, there, and, as you all recall from the Saturday Night Live where
>>Sigourney (sp?) Weaver was host, [in the segment entitled "Alienses"], E.T. is
>>in fact dead - shot to death by hyperactive over-muscled space marines.
>>
>>In any event, you forgot the Smurfs' ace-in-the-hole: Ah-nold Smurf.
>>							*Heenop!*

>Uh-huh.  But you forgot the Ewoks allies - Fuzzy Fuzzy Zarathustra (ie
>Little Fuzzies - the _original_ Ewoks from H. Beam Piper's books
>"Little Fuzzy" and "Fuzzy Sapiens"), and the Hokas.  The Smurfs wouldn't
>stand a snowball's chance.  Rambo Hoka would waste Smurfette - thus ending
>her flanking attack, and imagine a legion of Little Fuzzies with their
>choppo-diggo's lead by the Napelon Hoka - or is he Alexander Hoka
>today?




>-- 
>================================================================================
>Tony Perreault, High Tech Babysitter & Nanny	tperreau@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
>Array Operations, Very Large Array	      All opinions expressed are my
>Socorro, NM				        own and not those of NRAO


Yeah, but you forgot about the Smurfs' allies- the Tribbles!?!
They'd just eat the forest where the Ewoks subside then the Ewoks
would have no food or cover from the Smurfs.

Smurfs 2
Ewoks  1

Matt
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From: orc@u36.uucp (Richard Cornie)
Subject: Re: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Keywords: Buford, pass me that extra straightjacket 
Organization: U36 Research
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:00:38 GMT

        Gee....could Batman beat the T-1000?
        
        I recommend that you ask Dark Horse comics.Given the chance they
        would X-vs-Y where x and y are noted and accepted in their own
        sf 'realities'.
:wq

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From: sdh5@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Hurley)
Subject: Asimov lost
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:38:43 GMT


Isaac Asimov died this morning , April 6, 1992 A.D.

WHo's left?
-- 
Though it will take me to Forever's Rim,
I sail through the reaches of Time's Twilight Dim.
Questing for Knowledge, on Night's Darkest Sea,
Bound for those shores enshrouded by Mystery.  --Thaliaer's Oath
From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:12:30 GMT
Reply-To: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu
Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
In-reply-to: bcushman@lust.reed.edu's message of 6 Apr 92 02:35:36 GMT
X-Quote: I am created Shiva, the Destroyer; death, the shatterer of worlds;
X-Quote: the dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju.
X-Posting-Software: GNUS 3.14.1 [ NNTP-based News Reader for GNU Emacs ]

>>>>> On 6 Apr 92 02:35:36 GMT, bcushman@lust.reed.edu (Ben Cushman) said:

bcushman> 	I have a quick question.  Was the T1000 organic?  If not,
bcushman> how could he be temporally diplaced.  I understood that the
bcushman> reason why no weapons or clothes could be brought back from the
bcushman> future was that no non-living stuff can be displaced (unless it
bcushman> was wrapped in living tissue).  However, the T1000 seemed to be
bcushman> made entirely of liquid metal (that is, no living tissue).  Is
bcushman> there an explanation for this apparent discrepancy?

The T1000 is metal, inorganic. It was probably wrapped in a layer of
organic flesh, similar to the covering of the T800 series, which burned
away during the temporal displacement.

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From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: superman movies
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 13:35:33 GMT

Superman I was great up to the point when he returned from his trip with
Jorel and became Superman.  After that, the movie couldn't decide if it
wanted to be a comic or a serious attempt to make Superman real.

Superman II was schizophrenic as well, though more on the comic side.
And General Zod, who ran chills up my spine in Superman I resembled a
villiage idiot more than a criminal genius in II.

I gave up after that.
-- 
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::Craig Smith                                             csmith@onetouch.COM::
::Columbus, OH                                      ...!uunet!onetouch!csmith::
::"Life is a fulltime occupation."--Gene Kalman                              ::
From: cturner@hubcap.clemson.edu (Curtis M. Turner II)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Ending of ALIENS...
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:29:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: hubcap.1992Apr10.182932.627
Organization: Clemson University


	If anyone would bother to notice, Hudson was the electronics & comp.
specialist of the group, so when he asked if it was going to be a bug hunt,
he could have quite easily have been talking about systems correction.


	Curtis Turner II
	Virtual CyberJackal
	D.A.
From: peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Lucas & $$$$
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:34:10 GMT
Reply-To: peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Apr6.132309.796@desire.wright.edu> arang@desire.wright.edu writes:
>In article <3289@screamer.csee.usf.edu>, clark@racquet.csee.usf.edu (Matthew Clark) writes:
>If you caught the academy awards, when the winners for visual effects made
>their speech they thanked ILM-mainly because they did the morphing.  They also
>did the morphing for Michael Jackson's video.

Actually I believe Pacific Data did the morphing for Michael Jackson's
video.  I'm pretty sure about that one.

>-Amy Rang
>Wright State University

PQ?
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From: craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Craig R Albrechtson)
Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:43:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.051631.27302@latcs1.lat.oz.au> agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (paul-michael agapow) writes:
><rauser.702945880@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>>
>>   If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is much stronger
>>and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of gadgets and his studly armour. 
>>Both are brilliant (remember, Peter Parker was a science grad student) but
>>Batman is much shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
>>fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?
>
>What i really want to know is, if the Ewoks fought the Smurfs, who would
>win? Like while the Ewoks are hardened combat veterans, and might have a
>few ATTs still hanging around, the Smurfs have magic and the wisdom of
>Grandpa Smurf. And of course they could always distract the ewoks with
>Smurfette and make a flanking attack. But the Ewoks could probably
>convince the Care-Bears to join their side which would even up the fight.
>i'm not sure if ET would join the Smurf side, he/it might hire him/itself
>out as a mercenary to either side, and since neither side has a monetary
>system, this would present problems. 
>
>So what do you think?
>
You want to know what I think...


AAARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH...........................what the hell is
this geekworld international.  These stupid x vs y threads are
driving me nuts.

What I propose is that we create a thread on the horrible things
we could do to the people who continue to post on this.

Here are my suggestions

-Take one of those geekoids, strip him/her naked , tie them up 
and throw them head first in to the mosh pit at a janes addiction
concert. 

-Take one of those geeks and tie about 100 cats to their body
and throw them into a swimming pool.

At least that is what I would like to do to one of those
geeks that keep posting on these stupid threads if I could 
get my hands on them.

-- 
************************************************************************
* Craig Reese Albrechtson (Slider) * University of Wisconsin Milwaukee *
* The usual meanless disclaimers apply * craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu       *
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From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:50:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.023536.12315@reed.edu> bcushman@lust.reed.edu (Ben Cushman) writes:
>
>Hi folks--
>
>	I have a quick question.  Was the T1000 organic?  If not, how  
>could he be temporally diplaced.  I understood that the reason why no  
>weapons or clothes could be brought back from the future was that no  
>non-living stuff can be displaced (unless it was wrapped in living  
>tissue).  However, the T1000 seemed to be made entirely of liquid metal  
>(that is, no living tissue).  Is there an explanation for this apparent  
>discrepancy?
>
>					Ben Cushman
>					Reed College

Hmmm...so they capture some humans in the future, peel them, and then wrap
the T1000 in all the fleshy bits.  Simple enough.  Gee I wonder why they
didn't show it on film.... :-)


-- 
 Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
 "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
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From: ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: x vs. x comparisons
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:10:43 GMT

		This isn't the first time I've seen this sort of discussion and
it certainly won't be the last.. perhaps someone could create a newsgroup
specifically for it? 
		
		alt.speculation.hero.combat
		
		A news group devoted solely to the discussion of which hero or
entity or organization from any series or genre could trash another. Perfect
for the Star Wars vs. Star Trek type of things. Could embrace a wide variety of
different mythological or fictional characters..

		Zeus vs. Christ
		Justice League America vs. the stock gladiators from "American
Gladiators"
		one of the 3 Musketeers vs. the Highlander
		Darth Vader vs. Professor Xavier

		and so forth ad nauseam.

						Chris
						ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu