HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: loriae@cray.com (Lori Inglett)
Subject: brass
Summary: lacquer coating
Keywords: brass lacquer polish chip
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:41:32 CDT


Hello,

I was cleaning the wax out of some brass candlestickes the other day when I
noticed that some of the lacquer coating was starting to buckle and chip.  
Does anyone know of a method or a chemical to remove the lacquer coating 
without damaging the brass underneath it?

Thanks!  
Please email responses, as I don't usually read this group.

-Lori  loriae@cray.com
-- 
****************  Lori Anne Elisabeth Schneider Inglett ********************
*                       loriae@teak.cray.com                               *
***************************  ext 5294   ************************************
Xref: sparky misc.misc:3311 news.newusers.questions:4011 soc.libraries.talk:250
From: viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,news.newusers.questions,soc.libraries.talk
Subject: How can I find info on the status of Kauai?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:51:49 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA


Greetings,

Does anyone know how I can access info about Kauai? Is there
a news site I can ftp to perhaps?

Thanks,
Vivian

viviana@tamri.com
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: happy@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Rusty Soots)
Subject: Test
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 20:21:15 GMT

This is a test.

Rusty Soots -- North Carolina State University -- Science Education and
Microbiology -- Grad. Date 5/93...yeah!!!!!!!!!
From: bf479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell Jackson II)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: trade DIALOUTS
Date: 11 Sep 1992 17:52:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


send area code/city. will trade dialouts for one's i don't have.
also trading telnetouts.

bf479@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Is this email address valid?
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:53:29 GMT
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I encountered a message today from the site "orange.syud.edu".  I'd never heard
of this site before, but I can't be expected to keep track of the entire .edu
net...  However, I noticed that the person's name was "Michael Hunt".  Now this
is a perfectly reasonable name, but is also a good gag name, as "Mike Hunt"...
(say it out loud if you don't get it).  So I double-checked...

Using the Unix host command on orange.syud.edu, I get "Host not found".  If I
do a "host -l syud.edu", I get "No such domain".  Now normally host is pretty
good at finding sites off the internet, at least finding mail servers and such.
So this makes me suspicious.  I can't find any obvious puns in the address
(not like ea.tme.edu), and the message posted wasn't particularly malicious,
like the few forgeries that have instigated flamewars on alt.config and rec.
music.misc, among other places, recently.

I might add that the message had the "orange.syud.edu" address in From:, 
Sender:, Originator:, and a couple of other fields.  I don't recall the path
offhand, but it didn't look suspicious to me when I saw it.

Can anyone tell me if syud.edu is a real site?

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"What have I done to piss the gods off?"  ---Terence Trent D'Arby
Current Album--Pink Floyd:A Nice Pair
Current Read--John Updike:Rabbit, Run
From: rudin@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Preference: Fluorescent vs incandescent light sources?
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:50:12 EDT

		FLUORESCENT  VS  INCANDESCENT

	I am interested in how people feel about these two ways of lighting.
Do you have a preference? Does everyone you know feel a certain way about
one of these light types? Do you prefer one over the other depending on what
you are doing?

	I'd appreciate your opinion - in whatever form you can send it to me.
Thanks!

	Sven

rudin@ohstpy.bitnet
Newsgroups: misc.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,biz.misc
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: Name/Mailing Lists available
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:36:41 GMT

aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu (Aryeh Friedman) writes:
: 
: You should be aware I am informing all apporite authorities of this miss use
:

That is just about the silliest thing I have ever heard on this net.

Surly you jest?  Or were you one of those who always volunteed for
for hoallway monitor in grade school?

Perhaps someone should post the charter of biz.misc.  I was told that it 
was one of several newsgroups where commercial announcements were condoned
by the useres.

Please understand that the users are the appropriate athorities on usenet.

If the uses agree, than people like you should just hit "N" and your
trauma will be short lived.

js

Newsgroups: cornell.general,misc.misc,comp.unix.misc
From: rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: Name/Mailing Lists available
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:58:02 GMT
Reply-To: rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Followup-To: misc.misc,misc.test,talk.bizarre
Organization: Elkhorn Yacht Club, Moss Landing CA

aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu (Aryeh Friedman) writes:

>	Who said you can post this trash to the net and exspecially
>m.e!!!!  You have broken at least half a dozen guidlines and restrictions 
>of this group and the net they are:

HAW HAW HAW
I GET IT!@#

PEOPLE CANT SELL THINGS HERE!!@!@@

I GET IT !!@!@@!

HAW HAW ARYEH FRIEDMAN IS NO NET.COP!@!# HAW! I GET IT.
Xref: sparky misc.misc:3298 misc.entrepreneurs:2802 biz.misc:100
From: aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu (Aryeh Friedman)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,biz.misc
Subject: Re: Name/Mailing Lists available
Date: 14 Sep 1992 07:00:40 GMT
Organization: Marsnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.ucsc.edu

In article <BuJr95.EJ0@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>Surly you jest?  Or were you one of those who always volunteed for
>for hoallway monitor in grade school?

	No I don't the usenet your right but not in the use of the internet as
a transport medium and of academic resources.  No I didn't volunteer to be a 
hall monitor.  The rason why I do this is that the net as a whole with all
its subnets is build on trust and formal rules to inforce that trust and one
of the rules is that the internet (nsfnet specifacilly) does not allow 
commerical traffic.  Also most schools don't either.

>Perhaps someone should post the charter of biz.misc.  I was told that it 
>was one of several newsgroups where commercial announcements were condoned
>by the useres.

	Biz.misc your correct but it was crossposted to groups where it isn't.	
	
>Please understand that the users are the appropriate athorities on usenet.

	And thus it is up to users to handle any abouse that will lead to sites
and networks no longer to carry news, a harm to us all.  If this includes
telling the admins of that site or network so be it, thus perseving the trust
the net is build on. 

>If the uses agree, than people like you should just hit "N" and your
>trauma will be short lived.

	For reasons listed above it whould cause more harm then good to do so.
Xref: sparky misc.misc:3302 alt.fan.warlord:6410
From: rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (wink martindale)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: Name/Mailing Lists available
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil (wink martindale)
Organization: Elkhorn Yacht Club, Moss Landing CA

In article <6hynvga@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>With grammar and spelling like this uses, why do I have a strong urge to 
>doubt his sincerity about wasting academic resources?  Makes me think
>of the old saw about stones and glass houses.

Bzzt!
The correct response is :
			 pot, kettle, black

>Hey fella, right after you learn how to spell, learn how much the world
>hates a snitch.

>John
>-- 
>John De Armond, WD4OQC               |Interested in high performance mobility?  
>Performance Engineering Magazine (TM) |
>Marietta, Ga                         |Interested in high tech and computers? 
>jgd@dixie.com                        |Write me about PE Magazine
>Need Usenet public Access in Atlanta?  Write Me for info on Dixie.com.


Hey John, right after you learn how to make a good sig, learn how much
the net hates spelling flames.
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Colby E-mail address wanted
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:44:39 GMT

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but, does anybody know
the E-mail address of Colby College in Maine.  If you do, could you please
E-mail me?
Thanks

--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
From: JEFF-G@cup.portal.com (Jeff - Griffin)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Wanted - Posters Of Movie Stars
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 03:11:26 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Can anyone provide me with a source (catalog house) for *large* Posters
of Movie Stars??
I'm particularly interested in Actors who have portrayed Pool Players;

	James Caan - Jackie Gleason - Tom Cruise - Paul Newman et al
 
Thanks, Jeff Griffin
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: gary@resumix.portal.com (Gary Lin)
Subject: Re: Preference: Fluorescent vs incandescent light sources?
Organization: Resumix Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:46:13 GMT

rudin@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>		FLUORESCENT  VS  INCANDESCENT

>	I am interested in how people feel about these two ways of lighting.
>Do you have a preference? Does everyone you know feel a certain way about
>one of these light types? Do you prefer one over the other depending on what
>you are doing?

	Neither, I prefer halogen.  The "natural" ambience of incads and
	the energy efficiency of fluorescents.  But then sometimes we can't
	rip out the lights at work.

						Gary M. Lin
						RESUMIX inc.
						gary@resumix.portal.com
From: x90tran5@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: TEST ! PLEASE IGNORE
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:59:55 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University



TESTING .... IGNORE THE MESSAGE !!

Xref: sparky misc.misc:3267 misc.entrepreneurs:2714 biz.misc:96
From: aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu (Aryeh Friedman)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,biz.misc
Subject: Re: Name/Mailing Lists available
Date: 7 Sep 1992 02:23:44 GMT
Organization: Marsnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.ucsc.edu

In article <6480@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> cs230444@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (cs230444) writes:
>Need names for your mail-order, MLM, or other venture?
>Only the HOTTEST and NEWEST names - Guaranteed!
>Send $1 and SASE for details and order form to:
>		Michael Beck
>		1200 Progress St.#5500E
>		Blaksburg, VA 24060

	Who said you can post this trash to the net and exspecially
m.e!!!!  You have broken at least half a dozen guidlines and restrictions 
of this group and the net they are:
		No advertising allowed
		The readers of m.e. want mothing to do with MLM
		Do not cross post to so many groups
		You do not use the nsfnet for commerical use
		You do not use educational resources for commerical gain
		You do not solict money on the net!!!!
		You do not use the net to conduct frauds

You should be aware I am informing all apporite authorities of this miss use
of the net!
Xref: sparky misc.misc:3300 misc.entrepreneurs:2804 biz.misc:101
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,biz.misc
Subject: Re: Name/Mailing Lists available
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:57:19 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu (Aryeh Friedman) writes:

>	No I don't the usenet your right but not in the use of the internet as
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>a transport medium and of academic resources.  

>The rason why I do this is that the net as a whole with all
     ^^^^^
>its subnets is build on trust and formal rules to inforce that trust and one
                                                   ^^^^^^^
>of the rules is that the internet (nsfnet specifacilly) does not allow 
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>commerical traffic.  Also most schools don't either.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>	Biz.misc your correct but it was crossposted to groups where it isn't.	
            ^^^^^
>	And thus it is up to users to handle any abouse that will lead to sites
                                             ^^^^^^
>and networks no longer to carry news, a harm to us all.  If this includes
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>telling the admins of that site or network so be it, thus perseving the trust
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^
>the net is build on. 


With grammar and spelling like this uses, why do I have a strong urge to 
doubt his sincerity about wasting academic resources?  Makes me think
of the old saw about stones and glass houses.

Hey fella, right after you learn how to spell, learn how much the world
hates a snitch.

John
-- 
John De Armond, WD4OQC               |Interested in high performance mobility?  
Performance Engineering Magazine (TM) |
Marietta, Ga                         |Interested in high tech and computers? 
jgd@dixie.com                        |Write me about PE Magazine
Need Usenet public Access in Atlanta?  Write Me for info on Dixie.com.
From: hmoss@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Howard Moss)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:10:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Someone Somewhere May be Grieving ...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: misc.misc

well written and poignant. thank you for sharing that with us...
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: gmeiers@edsi.plexus.COM (Garrett Meiers)
Subject: Internet Address and Descriptions...???
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:32:07 GMT

Does anyone know of a location for, or have, a list of internet
addresses and their description as to what they are and where
they are?

Thanks..

gmeiers

Xref: sparky misc.misc:3266 misc.entrepreneurs:2713 biz.misc:95
From: cs230444@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (cs230444)
Newsgroups: misc.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,biz.misc
Subject: Name/Mailing Lists available
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:58:57 GMT
Followup-To: misc.misc
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA

Need names for your mail-order, MLM, or other venture?
Only the HOTTEST and NEWEST names - Guaranteed!
Send $1 and SASE for details and order form to:
		Michael Beck
		1200 Progress St.#5500E
		Blaksburg, VA 24060
From: drw@euclid.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: implementation of an idea..
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:33:18 GMT
Organization: MIT Dept. of Tetrapilotomy, Cambridge, MA, USA

In article <1992Aug26.180246.16249@infonode.ingr.com> vilva@madras.b23b.ingr.com (Vilva Natarajan) writes:
   I have a few innovative thoughts, that I think would have a great
   market if implemented. But I dont have the technical expertise to
   do it. Are there any agencies that do experiments of such nature?
   If so how much do these agencies charge? Please let me know.
   Thanks.

There are three skills you need:
	- the technical expertise to deal with the implementation of
	the idea
	- the ability to see how the idea can be turned into a
	product, that is a salable commodity that satisfies a
	perceived need
	- the technical expertise to actually run a business

The first you can buy.  The third you can buy, or alternatively, learn
by the seat of your pants.  The second is the tricky one -- the
transition from "everybody needs this" to "enough people are willing
to pay money for this".  If you want to be an entrepreneur, that's the
skill to learn.

From one who is learning the hard way,

Dale

Dale Worley		Dept. of Math., MIT		drw@math.mit.edu
--
Tell the truth and run.		-- old Yugoslav proverb
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: mheney@access.digex.com (Michael K. Heney)
Subject: Starting a Bank or Credit Union
Keywords: Bank  Credit Union
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:37:54 GMT

Crazy as it may sound, I want to charter a bank.  I have reason to believe
that there is a specific community of individuals and businesses which
would be willing and enthusiastic customers, and that targeting them
is a relatively srtaightforward proposition.

I am in the earliest possible stages of pursuing this project - I've been
sketching out some notes to myself and discussed them with my wife and
a few professional (aerospace/computing) collegues, but this posting
is my first "public" foray.  For starters, I have *no* financial
institution experience.  I have successfully owned and operated a retail 
storefront and a computer consulting/management company.

Any suggestions / encouragements / experiences/ etc. would be most
appreciated.  I live in Maryland, a Washington DC suburb; so in terms
of a reasonable commute I am about 1/2 hour from DC, MD, and VA locations; 
1-1/2 hour from PA and Delaware, and less than 4 from NJ, W Va, and NC
(although those are too far for a reasonable commute).  Is there
any real advantage to chartering in one state vs another?  One
vs many?  Are there advantages in setting up a Credit Union vs a 
Bank?  Any ideas on what would be needed for start-up capital?  
Minimum number of customers to be viable?  Minimum on deposits?
We also want to be issuing Visa and/or Master Cards - any thoughts
on this?

Pointers to good reference materials and other applicable newsgroups
would be appreciated.  Thanks for your help in advance, and wish
me luck!


-- 
Mike Heney                |                                  |  Reach for the
mheney@access.digex.com   |     * Will Work for Money *      |  Stars, eh?
Kensington, MD (near DC)  |                                  |

Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: cyclist@hubcap.clemson.edu (Barry Johnson)
Subject: Re: Amway vs Primerica vs Whatever vs Widgets Inc
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:59:27 GMT

aryeh@cash.ucsc.edu (Aryeh Friedman) writes:

>In article <1992Sep8.171006.10692@waikato.ac.nz> cdb@waikato.ac.nz (Craig D. Beere) writes:
>>
>>I feel that MLMs are just as entreprenurial as other business ideas.  I advise
>>people to read the description of misc.entrepreneurs if they feel MLMs are not
>>appropriate here.  I feel that MLM should maybe be a subset of
>>entrepreneurship.  Maybe we should have misc.entrepreneur.multi-level?

>For the thousandth time MLM!=Entrepreneur stop tring to make it sound so.  For
>this reason I vote no for this idea.  Also by doing this we give MLMers 
>more reconition then the deserv personally I think that if MLM was really
>reconized as a fraud you all whould be in jail.

Do you believe that it is possible for an individual to buy into a
franchise (Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, McDonalds etc...) and still be an
entrepreneur?  If so why is being part of an MLM any different?

Barry...
-- 
Personal Theory:  Socks are the larval form of wire coat-hangers.
   
Barry Johnson, Clemson University, CTS.   cyclist@hubcap.clemson.edu
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: MARKET PROJ. 4 INFO. RETRIEVAL / MULTIMEDIA
From: pollarda@physc1.byu.edu
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:22:39 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University


I am interested in finding market projections for information 
retrieval / multimedia systems.  Are there any good sources
where I might look to find this information?  I am partiuclarly
interested in finding information which projects a growth factor
for the industry as well as information which may indicate a 
need by the computing community for information retrieval / multimedia
products.  (I am sure all of us can imagine all sorts of applications
but, I need some juicy quotes.)

Any Ideas???

Thanx,

art
please reply to my e-mail address -->pollarda@xray.byu.edu


Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: dlucy@sandr.COM (Douglas Lucy)
Subject: WANTED: Non-disclosure Agreement Example
Organization: S&R Software, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 02:47:17 GMT

Anyone have a good example of a non-disclosure agreement?
Specifically, I'm looking to allow a self-employed person 
to keep a copy of our software (no, not source). However, I
want to restrict his ability to show and/or discuss the
product with others.

Any examples or pointers to archives? Thanks!
-- 
| Doug Lucy, Chief Geek | "It just doesn't matter" |  in /dev/null,   |
| S&R Software, Inc     |        -Bill Murray      |   no one can     |
| dlucy@sandr.COM       |                          | hear you scream  |
| Security Automation for Sensitive/Proprietary/Classified Infomation |
From: sunil@netcom.com (SUNIL DHINGRA)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Information wanted ..
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:33:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


I am looking for the talent on this net to help me with trying to
get some information.

I am trying to study how soda cans are made - the machinery involved,
raw material sources, the investment required to set up such a plant?
Do most beverage companies make the cans themseles or they just seal
them in - house, etc.?

Can anybody guide me to people knowledgable about the process, books,
consultants, the big companies in this industry. Any other relevant 
information will also be appreciated.

Thanks,
From: moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Mailing Lists vs Magazine Advertisements
Date: 10 Sep 1992 10:33:19 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

I know it would be a very broad-spectrumed question, and it'd be
difficult to answer it without a knowledge of a certain product,
but can somebody tell me when should one place an ad in a paper/
magazine, and when to go in for a direct-mailing?

I have a few ideas, but they are in a very elementary stage. While
I am trying to develop them, I would like to get started on this
other front as well, so I could start as soon as I could. I would
like to zero-in on the period before christmas.

This brings me to an important question: Is it a good idea to 
flood people with your direct-mail letters before a major occasion
like christmas? I don't mean immediately prior to it, but. say,
a month or so. Are there any positive/negative apects of it that
I should be aware of?


Alright. Here is the main part od my question. I hope someone 
would be kind enough to suggest a few answers.

   An Ad in a magazine like Popular Science costs at least $125
   (for a smallest possible size). But it goes to a very large
   multitude of prospective buyers. Even if half a percent of
   those think favorably, you'd be talking of thousands of 
   prospects.

   Direct-mail, on the other hand, goes only to the people you
   choose. Let's see how much it'd cost to mail the letter to
   say, 5000 addresses:

        mailing list  ~ 200   (is this a safe estimate?)
        Postage (@.29) 1450   It goes for one-third under
                              the special permit, but is it
                              recommended? It LOOKS junk!
        Printing/
             Packaging  250

           TOTAL       1900

   Add to this the time you'd have to spend in labelling the letters,
   stuffing the envelopes and mailing them. Some headache it would
   definitely be!

   And, the response is generally between 3-5% (am I right?) which
   comes to 150-250. And depending upon the product, this would
   barely break even.

So, on the basis of this comparison, magazine ad would seem a very 
good alternative. 

Is there anything that I have missed out?

Thanks a lot.


Nadeem Moghal
Univ of Southern California

Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs