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From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:43:28 GMT

<1992Dec21.213529.8894@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) said:
><1992Dec21.210943.23105@weber.com> steve@weber.com (Steve Keshen) writes:
>><1992Dec20.170701.7522@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>>>Gary, you just don't give up do you. :-) Tell you what, 
>>>practically the WHOLE world has the Niners as favorites to
>>>go all the way despite their winning margin. Check out
>>>their record, 13-2. Also check out their QBs: Young, Bono,
>>>and that other guy, hmmm, oh yeah, JOE MONTANA. Hmmm,
>>
>>Ya right.  And let me guess - he's throwing and not feeling any pain.  Oh,
>>and he'll be back in a couple of weeks right?
>>
>>Montana WAS great,  Young is OK,  Bono's a wannabe.
>>
>Young is OK! Incredulous! Are we a bit jealous Steve? Check out the 
>stats Steve, re: Highest rated QB in the NFL. Bono, in your eyes might 
>be a wannabe, but Bono is a BONOfide QB in the NFL and could easily be 
>a starting QB anywhere else.  Your response is typical of certain
   ^^^^^^^^
>net.whiners. :-)

Please keep these words about Bono in mind when the whining starts about
Young being the MVP.  How can he be the MVP when they have 3 starting QBs,
right?  Young gets hurt?  Just put in Bono and they don't miss a beat,
right?  Heck if Bono gets hurt you put in Montana, right?  What makes
Young so valuable?

Emmitt Smith is the MVP.  After MNF there should be no doubt.


Gordon
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From: danp@sabre.bellcore.com (Daniel Pomplun)
Subject: Detailed Playoff Picture [LONG]
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 02:05:07 GMT



Here's the updated picture, following Dallas's win.
The 6 teams from each conference are ranked as follows:
  Div1, Div2, Div3, WC1, WC2, WC3
Hopefully, everything is correct.  Let me know if it is not.


			NFC East

Dallas (12-3)  Chicago

	clinched					- Div2

Philly (10-5)  Giants

	win & NO win					- WC2
	win & NO loss					- WC1
	loss & GB loss					- WC2
	loss & GB win					- WC3

Washington (9-6)  LA Raiders

	win & Philly win				- WC3
	win & GB loss					- WC3
	win & Philly loss & GB win			- out
	loss & GB loss					- WC3
	loss & GB win					- out

			NFC Central

Minnesota (10-5)  Green Bay

	clinched 					- Div3

Green Bay (9-6)  at Minnesota

	win & Philly win & Wash win			- out
	win & Philly win & Wash loss			- WC3
	win & Philly loss				- WC2
	loss						- out

			NFC West

San Francisco (13-2)  Detroit

	clinched					- Div1

New Orleans (11-4)  at NY Jets

	win						- WC1
	loss & Philly win				- WC2
	loss & Philly loss				- WC1

			AFC East

Buffalo (11-4)  at Houston

	win						- Div1
	loss & Miami win				- WC1
	loss & Miami loss & Pitts win & SD win		- Div3
	loss & Miami loss & Pitts win & SD loss		- Div1
	loss & Miami loss & Pitts loss & SD win		- Div2
	loss & Miami loss & Pitts loss & SD loss	- Div1

Miami (10-5)  at New England

	win & Buff win					- WC1
	win & Buff loss & Pitts win 			- Div2
	win & Buff loss & Pitts loss 			- Div1
	loss & Denver win				- WC1
	loss & KC win & SD loss				- WC1
	loss & KC win & SD win &
	  points(Miami-NE)+32 > points(KC-Denver)	- WC1
	loss & KC win & SD win &
	  points(Miami-NE)+32 <= points(KC-Denver)	- WC2

			AFC Central

Pittsburgh (10-5)  Cleveland

	win & Buff win					- Div2
	win & Buff loss & Miami win			- Div1
	win & Buff loss & Miami loss			- Div2
	loss & SD loss					- Div2
	loss & SD win					- Div3

Houston (9-6)  Buffalo

	win & Miami win					- WC2
	win & Miami loss & Denver win			- WC2
	win & Miami loss & KC win & SD loss		- WC2
	win & Miami loss & KC win & SD win		- WC3
	loss & Denver win				- WC2
	loss & KC win					- WC3
	
			AFC West

San Diego (10-5)  at Seattle

	win & Buff win & Pitts win			- Div3
	win & Buff win & Pitts loss			- Div2
	win & Buff loss & Miami loss & Pitts win	- Div2
	win & Buff loss & Miami loss & Pitts loss	- Div1
	win & Buff loss & Miami win & Pitts win		- Div3
	win & Buff loss & Miami win & Pitts loss	- Div2
	loss & Denver win				- Div3
	loss & KC win & Houston win			- WC3
	loss & KC win & Houston loss			- WC2

Kansas City (9-6)  Denver

	win & SD loss					- Div3
	win & SD win & Miami win & Houston win		- WC3
	win & SD win & Miami win & Houston loss		- WC2
	win & SD win & Miami loss &
	  points(Miami-NE)+32 > points(KC-Denver)	- WC2
	win & SD win & Miami loss &
	  points(Miami-NE)+32 <= points(KC-Denver)	- WC1
	loss						- out

Denver (8-7)  at Kansas City

	win & Houston win				- WC3
	win & Houston loss				- WC2
	loss						- out


Daniel Pomplun, Bellcore, danp@sabre.bellcore.com
Phone:  (908) 758-2740  Fax: (908) 758-4268
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From: wright@ada1 (Bill Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eric Green Status
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:13:17 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Any Pittsburghers out there who know whether Eric Green will play this week?
I know that he was activated, but is he ready?  My FF team needs him for our
Super Bowl.  Any help will be appreciated.


Bill Wright
wright@cr013.ae.ge.com  
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From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: AFC vs. NFC drivel
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:05:43 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec29.165012.10914@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (
edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.131509.25817@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> john@ice.stx.com write
s:
>>And might I remind you NFC boasters that in twelve superbowls from
>>1969 to 1980 the NFC had a mere 2 wins.  The total count remains only
>>14-12 in favor of the NFC and all this Conference dominance shit is making
>>me very tired.
>Well, so from 1969-1980 it's 10-2 AFC, from 1981-1991, it's 10-1 NFC. Which
>streak is more relevant? the on-going one or the one 15-20 years ago?
>
>NFC dominates the Super Bowl. Until we see the AFC rising out of the current
>ashes, talking about the 70s isn't going to get the AFC any respect.
>
>--
>                                          Edward Lor
>                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
>
>
And with the free new agency, all this will be just drivel as players move
from team to team and across the conferences.
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Curvin Richards History
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:42:41 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Curvin Richards the "best darn backup running back in all of the NFL" :-)
was canned today by Coach Johnson.  After fumbling twice against Da Bears,
JJ booted him saying that he had all the necessary talents but at this point
there's no need to risk things on him.  

satish nair
waiting for the shoe to drop


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From: punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi)
Subject: Re: Posting game updates (was Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFFALO!)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 05:12:00 GMT

In article <C0BACB.G56@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:

>The Eagles, going by today's game against the Saints 
>*deserve* to be in the SB.

Very true, ONLY IF Hebert is the opposing team's QB for the remaining Eagles'
game.
From: ahmed@uts.amdahl.com (Syed S. Ahmed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: MNF announcers about Montana
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:11:58 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <103346@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
> In article <1992Dec29.151018.5792@mksol.dseg.ti.com> dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com writes:
> >
> > Those stupid Monday Night FB announcers were driving me nuts with the
> > damn praise of Joe Montana and the 49ers. I mean a few nice words would
> > suffice. You would have thought Jesus was on the field by the way those
> > idiots were acting. I mean they literally spent 3 hours praising them.
> > Does anyone feel the same? A little praise is nice but such blatant
> > favoritism is stupid.
> 
> While I agree that Dan, Al and Frank were their stupid drooling self over
> Montana's playing, I'd chalk this one to the rating-misers.  This game was
> meaningless to the Lions and Niners (maybe Lions fans might want to see
> how well Ware would play and maybe watch Barry in action).  The only reason
> the mass populous would tune into this game would be to see Joe play!  The
> MNF announcers were trying to give the audience what they wanted. 
> 
> 
> satish nair
> ray is gone!
> 
> PS Anyone else notice the look on Steve Young's face?  Let's see, he leads the
> Niners to the best record in the NFL, is the highest rated passer in the
> league, will probably lead the team to the NFC Championship game and all 
> 50,000 Niner fans wanted was "Joe! Joe! Joe!"

The reporters in bay area were even worse. They kept comparing the stats
of Young and Montana (including the points scored 7 Vs 17) and they sort of 
concluded that Joe played better than Young. This is the worst compliment
anyone can give to Young after having such a great season. It is so unfair to
compare the stats in the halves ignoring the entire season. 

It is almost certain that Joe will not be with the 49ers next season. I hope
Bono stays as the backup. What are the chances of Ronnie Lott coming back
to S.F? How about trading Montana for Lott?

--
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From: root@lotka.teorekol.lu.se (The Super-user)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Congrats to vike's; kudo's to G.B.
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:34:40 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Dec21.173659.2774@island.COM> fester@etorofu.island.COM () writes:
>Well, congratulations to the Minnesota Vikings. After swallowing a series of
>tough losses, they finally won a tough road game, beating Pittsburgh on the
>road, 6-3. So, they will represent the NFC Central in the playoffs this 
>year, and I hope they do a good job; it has been a while since the Central
>has had a solid representative, capable of making it to the Super Bowl.
>
It doesn't seem to me that this year is any different..........



>Congratulations to the GREEN BAY PACKERS!!!!!!!!! All I wanted at the beginning 
>of the season was a .500 record, and a decent draft. I thought both were
>obtainable, as the Pack had a pretty good 'D last year (would have looked
>better with a good 'O), and though they had a 4-12 record, they were only
>outscored by about 30 points. Who can forget Majik dropping the ball in the
>end zone against the Dolphins, Tomzcak throwing on 3 down, a 4 point lead and
>less than 2 minutes to play against Atlanta, special teams giving up 2 TDs to 
>the Rams, ad nauseum? 
>
>So, I feel pretty good about the 'Pack next year, if they can pick up a decent
>DL, and another running back. If we beat the Vike's this week, the Pack will
>be 10-6, a fine turn-around, and something to build on. Even if we miss the
>playoffs, it's been a GREAT year, and we can prove ourselves next year. 
>
>Count me a well-satisfied Packer fan (now, if 'da Bears'd just fire Ditka's 
>*ss ...)
>
>Mike
>-- 
>Disclaimer - Oh come on! You didn't think I was serious, did you?

Sure can't argue with there. Who would have thought that my beloved Packers
would end this season with a winning record. I think that the new coaching
staff have produced wonders. I can't wait 'til next season.

- eppy

P.S. By the way did Green Bay use Corey Harris as a running back in the game at
Houston? I thing I saw a reference to a guy named Harris who carried twice
for 10 yards or something. I know the coaching staff had thought of trying
him at runningback in the offseason.
From: hbishop@ttsi.lonestar.org (Huett Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: TV  (was Re: 'Twas NBC Re: Raiders vs. Redskins...)
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:09:56 GMT
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc.

In article <1992Dec28.061943.14049@serval.net.wsu.edu> jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>In article <1hm403INNng9@agate.berkeley.edu> grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham) writes:
>>kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) wrote:
NBC no CBS ... deleted

>Now, a different question:  Is ABC covering the upcoming Saturday games?
>Specifically, the Vikes-Skins game?


Another question,
Why was there only one game on CBS Sunday? The Packers Vikes games was on
at Noon (Dallas Time) and the Cowboys at 3. However we (in Dallas) had to
suffer through Face the Nation, Fishing ... , et al during the Packers game.

Is there some rule about the home market for the home team not being able
to see both games in a double header?

I have noticed this before.

Huett
>
>Jim 

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From: cowboy@hubcap.clemson.edu (Greg Barron)
Subject: Re: Can Eagles still win NFC East?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:00:49 GMT

tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes:

>It's still possible for the Eagles to win the NFC East. A very longshot, but
>still possible. I think Atlanta has a good chance of beating the Cowboys. 
>Dallas already lost at home to another NFC West team, the Rams. And maybe
>by some miralce the Bears will be so pumped up because it's Singletary's last
>game that they'll beat Dallas.


Yes, it *was* very possible. The Boyz' were reeling from the upset at
RFK, and then the defending division-conference-world champion 'Skins
were defeated by the Eagles. However.......  

Today is Tuesday, December 22nd, 1992.  And now, all NFC East title
bets are off.....by defeating the Falcons 41-17 at the Georgia Dome on
Monday night, Dallas has secured a division title for the first time
since 1985. 

Here's to the toughest division in the NFL (IMHO), the beastly East.

--
#########################################################################
Gregory Alan Barron                             cowboy@hubcap.clemson.edu
               Go Dallas Cowboys---1992 NFC East Champions!   
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From: mikes@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Sheumaker)
Subject: Re: Coaching Change in Chicago
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Summary: Oh pulleeezzzeee 
Keywords: none
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:29:42 GMT

In article <1hs9l2INNca9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>After a talk with a high level media type sportscaster here's the scoop:
>
>Ditka is out in Chicago, he will be replaced by Vince Tobin.....
>
>Remember you heard it here first !
>tim
>

Say it ain't so Joe!!!!! Tobin is one of the ding-dongs that the Bears need to
get rid of! Along with that non-play calling so-and-so Landry. 

Here's what the Bears need: 
Give Ditka some added authority for personnel matters.
Get an offensive coordinator that understands modern football.
Hire Buddy Ryan as defensive coordinator with Singletary as assistant.
A blue-chip wide reciever
Teach Harbaugh to throw longer than 15 yard passes.
Get rid of Stan The Human Holding Machine Thomas.
Get a blue-chip pass rusher (although Spellman might just fit the bill).

And if all of this dosen't work in 1993, then can Ditka.

(And a good outside linebacker wouldn't hurt either. Are you listening L.T.?)

Signed-A Frustrated Bear Fan.








>


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    Mike Sheumaker              University of Illinois 
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Vikes KILL the Pack
Keywords: Vikes win, the Pack LOSES
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:20:14 GMT

In article <Bzy1vn.Evy@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
>After the Pack beat up on some teams without the super pass
>rush which the Vikes have, *some* of the Pack fans went into
>orgasm and started belittling the Vikes.  Ofcourse, this is
>not to take anything away from Holmgren and his Pack and
>Favre on what they achieved this year. But many of the Pack
>fans thought that the Vikes were push overs and would roll
>over and die and that the Vikes have sneaked into the Div.
>title and so on.... They overlooked the fact that even in 
>their losses to 9ers, Skins, Oilers and Eagles the Vikes
>gave a torrid time to their opponents before going down.

Well, Green Bay DID beat 2 of those teams; one of them in the "House of Pain".
(a very, very small "woof". Hey, we've had a great year; I'm entitled).

>But I still feel that the Vikes will not go deep into the
>playoffs unless they get an effort from their O like
>they did today.

Agreed. They really need a QB.

>So this rout of the Pack was a great Christmas gift for
>Vikes fans.  Finally Favre met a great pass rush in the 
>likes of D-man, Noga and their purple gang. 

Yep, and Green Bay NEEDS: a) a good pass-rushing defensive lineman b) a decent
running back in order to compete in the future. They SHOULD be available, as
we don't need All-Pros here, just solid players at those positions. Had the 
'Pack had a running game to speak of, the Vikings pass rush would have been 
slowed up. Had they had a pass-rush to speak of (without blitzing their 
linebackers), they would not have given up so many big plays.

>But at the same time I will say that the Pack will
>be a force to reckon with in the NFC-Central in the
>coming years.

The BIG problem with the Vike's is their OFFENSE (or lack of it). Green Bay's
big problem has been susceptibility to the BIG PLAY on defense, and the
Vikings SURE exploited it (note: Green bay had been exposed in its games against
the Rams and the Oilers for the same thing, but fortunately, we won those
games). If the Vikings get a reasonable offensive performance, they will be
a force in the playoffs. If not, look for a quick exit.

The Vike's "D" is awesome, second only to New Orleans (IMO). I wish them the
best of luck in the playoffs in upholding the honor of the NFC Central. Indeed,
the best team won the division this year. But just wait'll a couple of years
from now :-)

Mike
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Bad Boy Green Bay Bob
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:08:08 GMT

In article <19921228.092846.14@almaden.ibm.com> heavy-metal@vnet.ibm.com writes:

>oh, I almost forgot. There was also a guy selling shirt with the saying
>"*expletive* Green Bay" on them. Classy guy, real classy. I'm glad to say
>that he was arrested shortly there after.

Me, too.  I always thought that First Amendment stuff was nonsense, anyway.

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From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Pack playoff hunt (was Re: SKINS RULE)
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:43:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Dec27.174339.9820
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman

In article <BzwLuE.Bz@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:

>Don't be too hasty. Green Bay still has to beat the Vikings tomorrow (or the
                                                                       ^^^^^^
>Eagles have to lose). I really, really hope the Packers win. I don't expect
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No.  Now that the Skins have lost, the Eagles are no longer involved in 
deciding who makes the playoffs... if the Pack wins, they're in; if they
don't, the Skins are in.

I'm kind of glad that the Skins lost... now the Pack controls its own destiny.
This should make for a heck of a battle in the Dome today.  And the Vikes can
guarantee a first-round game against the Skins by winning.  I would personally
like to see them play the Skins rather than GB or Philly, especially after the
way we lost to them earlier in the year... I want another shot at them.

Jim
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ronnie Lott
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:32:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec30.010514.29564@novell.com> barrey@Novell.com (Barrey Jewall) writes:
 
|According to the radio this afternoon, Lott said that he expects to be 
|playing for the Niners next year. This heard on KNBR, 680 AM, San Francisco.

This is the second time I've heard this.  One of the Chronicle sports
writers claimed that Lott *will* play for the 49ers next year.  Before
this season began though I also heard that Craig would be back with the
49ers this year so take it with a grain of salt.

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From: robert@kohlrabi.tcs.com (Robert Blumen)
Subject: Re: Broncos/Reeves: A Mistake ???
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:34:09 GMT

> >Dan Reeves is an excellent coach who took mediocre teams (+ 1 great QB)
> >to the 3 SB. Unless the Broncos management thinks that its time for a 
> >change in leadership, sort of shake things up, they are making a mistake.
> >
> IMHO, I think the Broncos are making a big mistake by firing Dan Reeves ...
> he has been the coach who has been able to make something out of virtually
> nothing.  Granted, he does have Elway, but quite possibly, it's Reeve's
> coaching style that has help Elway become the talentd "grace under pressure"
> player that he is ... 

Yes, it may be that Reeves was an excellent coach but the problem is that
he was the GM/director of personnel as well, which he did not do such a
great job at.  If he were better as a GM, he would have gotten himself
some better talent to put around Elway.

And what about Elway?  Without him (and remember, Bowlen made the trade
to get Elway against Reeve's wishes), he would have been a mediocre coach
with mediocre talent, and perhaps Steve DeBerg still playing QB.

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