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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: editorial
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:07:46 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
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Index Number: 25064

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to Jim Danley <23 Sep 92 09:40> Carl Zebooker wrote:

 CZ> If a little old lady sleeps better because she offered you
 CZ> a seat on the bus, you both benefit from the transaction.

Not necessarily so.  Would she have offered the seat to a sighted
person under the same circumstances?  Somehow, I doubt it.  In
that case, you've given her that chance to feel virtuous at your
expense.  Charity and kindness can enslave as easily as the lash.

Mind you, I'm not saying that one should *never* accept favors.
I generally always accept help across a street, whether I need it
or not; after all, the person offering the help walks beside me
and I must still mind my Ps and Qs; it's no skin off my back if
someone wishes to help.  In many instances, one has little choice
but to accept the help -- even in stances such as cited here.
One should act with graciousness and dignity.

Not acting like a lout, however, does not imply that one does not
recognize the inherent put-down implicit in behavior such as that
exhibited by the little old lady.

Mike Freeman
... ** The blind are no longer willing to be second-class citizens. **
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Jonathan.Mosen@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Jonathan Mosen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: new echo pc
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:02:02 GMT
Reply-To: Jonathan.Mosen@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
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Index Number: 25049

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi John.  I can relate to the problem you are having regarding the
need to keep different .set files for different synthesisers.
That's why I quite like the Master-Touch programme as the voice
environment is saved separately from the rest of the
configuration.  This is quite good for users who are using speech
for the first time as they inevitably want to speed up their speech
after a while.  They can do it easily with master-Touch without
needing to change every configuration file.  I think it would be a
great idea for other screenreader manufacturers to save the voice
environment settings separately from information detailing windows,
hotkeys and other programme specific features.

Jonathan

... Now from the makers of Edlin: Windows!
=== Via Silver Xpress V3.01

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From: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Cummings)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Spinal centers
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:52:52 GMT
Reply-To: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/34 - Batteries Included, Montgomery AL
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25018

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 > As long as the posts are relevant, and credit is given to the
 > author(s) of any copyrighted material, I have no problem.  *adh*

Thanks, Alan!  I've found so many people to be so nice about
getting material out for the disAbled.  Our own newspaper here has
given me carte blanche as long as I cite them as the source.

Here's something interesting for you.  You, I believe, had the SCS
that had the transmitter on the outside and the receiver on the
inside.  Of course, you know I have the whole ball of wax on the
inside.  I have a friend with MPD who lives in Texas who had a
"temporary"  SCS for three days and then they removed it and are
now waiting for Medicare approval for implantation of the kind of
SCS like I have.  Anyway, they did the temporary implant while she
was awake!  I sure am glad I didn't have to have that done.

Linda

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From: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: MIAMI PROJECT
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:55:15 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15.13 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24787

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 DJ> Does anyone have any news on the Miami Project?  The last
 DJ> I heard is that they had found something out about the
 DJ> RETNEA of the eye.  It is the same substance of nerve cells
 DJ> or something.  They clamed they healed monkeys with spinal
 DJ> cord injuries.  It worked best for regaining arm use.  That
 DJ> is BIG NEWS for quadrilpligics (like me, since 90).  They
 DJ> said they would be getting close to a cure in 3-5 years.

 Don't want to burst your bubble, but don't hold your breath. A bunch of
 us in chairs were all talking one day at the Craig Hospital waiting to
 see the doctor and one guy echoed my sentiments exactly when he said I'll
 bet they already have a cure and they will never let it out because there
 are too many damn people making money on us (medical supply stores,
 doctors, drug companies to name a few). Sad, outrageous but probably
 true.

 I can surely understand your hope and optimism as I felt the same way
 during my first few years after my injury. They were supposedly on the
 brink of some breakthrough then. I guess the best suggestion I can
 give you is to go on with your life as best you can. Don't expect a cure.
 If it happens, great. If not, you won't be let down.

                       -Keith-

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From: shanea@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Shane Alderton)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Help Getting Started With Dos 5.0
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:05:09 GMT
Reply-To: shanea@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Shane Alderton)
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24867

Re: problems experienced with CapsLock in WordPerfect.

We were experiencing this capitals problem for quite some time at
work.  Like everyone else, it seems that DOS 5 is a major factor in
this problem.  Some computers and keyboards seem to be more prone
or less prone to the problem than others and in particular we found
our Philips 386 machines particularly problematic.

I don't have a total solution, but we achieved dramatic
improvements by removing EMM386 from the config.sys, however this
of course results in loss of UMB support and expanded memory.  I
haven't experimented significantly, but it may only be expanded
memory that aggravates the problem.  It is possible that running
EMM386 for UMBs only may not cause this, but I haven't checked.

Whether QEMM or some other memory manager has the same problem, I
don't know.

The latest maintenance release for WordPerfect 5.1 makes reference
to a new command line switch specifically designed to eliminate or
minimise shift state problems.  I haven't tried this switch, but it
may also assist, as WordPerfect seems to be one of the main victims
of sticky shift states.

What is interesting is that this problem is not nearly so
significant when no adaptive technology is being run.  Some AT
programs seem to aggravate the problem more than others and I
suspect this either has to do with chaining on int 9 (The keyboard
hardware interrupt) or timing overheads due to screen scans etc.

Tim Noonan,
Adaptive Technology Manager,
Royal Blind Society of NSW,
AUSTRALIA
From: Dan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Kysor)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: P.E.T.A. UPDATE
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:28:56 GMT
Reply-To: Dan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24964

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

blinktalkers have been discussing the rise of animal rights activists in
relationship to dog guides.  the following is a letter which was published
in the "have guide dog will travel" magazine published by the guide dog
users group of california.  the letter is a response from PETA, "people for
the ethical treatment of animals" to an enquiry from the california state
board of guide dogs on peta's position on guide dogs.  here is the letter
in its entirity.
ms. pat urena
california guide dog board
830 k. st.
room 222
sacramento, ca. 95814

from: christine jackson, senior staff writer
peta people for the ethical treatment of animals
p.o. box 42516
washington d.c. 20015-0516
phone 301-770-peta
fax- 301-770-8969

dear ms. urena,
i have been asked to write to you regarding peta's position on guide dogs
for the blind.  i am enclosing some information about peta but let me say
first that with any situation involving working animals, there is
substancial potential for abuse.  Even when people have the best of
intentions, working dogs are often used as a substitute for inovation and
programs that intelligently address human needs.  they may be also used in
situations considered too dangerous for a human being and therefore, too
dangerous for the animal and even treated cruely in the preporation for,
and during their lives of servitude.
it is our understanding that the seeing eye dog program contributes to
overpopulation by breeding dogs rather than rescuing dogs from from
shelters as does a program that provides dogs for the deaf.
also, dogs for the blind are kept in harnesses and must be alert 24 hours a
day; they get no vacations.  when seeing eye dogs become too old, they are
seperaalways wondering no doubt, what they did wrong or where their life
long human companion went or destroyed.  we would rather have improved
services for the blind than breed dogs for them but we'd rather dogs doomed
to die at the pound become happy working dogs.  i hope this letter has
clarified our position.
sincerely, christine jackson

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From: Dave.Resnik@p100.f5.n232.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Resnik)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: RSD Group
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:45:54 GMT
Reply-To: Dave.Resnik@p100.f5.n232.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:232/5.100 - EPE Online, East Peoria IL
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24730

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Long time no TTYL. Sorry I have not echoed for a while but I moved.
As a lot of you know I have been working on a RSD support and a RSD
echo for about 1 year now. Good news it is about set up to run. Now
I need your help!! For all who want to be involved please send a
letter to me at:

       Dave Resnik
       Route 8
       E. Peoria Il 61554

Yes I know it is a funcky address but I have a farm if that helps any.

Here is the format I need from you. Please note I will take your
letters to my Congressman, I will explain later on..

       Your FULL name
       Your Address
       State if you have RSD or know of a person who has it.
       State if you are in the medical profession.

Please give me writen permission to hand your letter over to my
local Congressman to be used as a signature of petition for the
approval of a RSD Foundation. (Non Proffit) If you wish for me to
reply please enclose a S.A.S.E with your letter.

As I was saying I have been working with my Congressman to start a
RSD Foundation. If I get enough people to send in letters it will
be taken to the Capital for approval. The main goals I have set up
are the following:

  1) A bbs 24 hours, 9600 baud, & 260 meg free on the harddrive's.
Running on a 386 DTK using the software I wrote (Battle Ship)
  2) A current listing of all pain clinic's that treat RSD.
  3) A current listing of all DR.'s that PROPERLY treat RSD.
  4) A RSD ECHO (ask your sysop if he/she would carry it. I will
give the node number)
  5) I would like to start a network of groups where others involved can
get togiether to share and help eachother out. This will require help
from some of you. Please let me know.
  6) A news letter sold at the cost of printing / shipping
(NON PROFFIT but it does add up fast)
  7) In the newsletter and on the bbs space will be made for people to
write about such things as treatments, aids, ways of doing simple
(that is harder then ^$%^$)^%&^$%^#$% to do) daily thing, and words of wisdom.

If you wish to contact me voice my number is 309)698-5744. The best
time to reach me is Tue-Thur 9am-12pm then Mon-thur 9pm-11pm
Illinois time. I do read the Chronic Pain Echo but do not have the
time to reply to all the great messages. So if it looks like I am
blowing you off not true. This is a lot of work and I do have 2
small ones to handle. Please ignor the TAG line since my bbs is
down till I put it up as the RSD BBS and I have to have a node# to
get this echo. If you wish to netmail me you may send it to
1:232/5.100

              Thanks ALL,
                         -=[ Dave Resnik ]=-

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From: Darrell.Shandrow@f204.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Darrell Shandrow)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Comments From Syntha-
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:03:57 GMT
Reply-To: Darrell.Shandrow@f204.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/204
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25056

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I wish I could agree with you but unfortunately I can't.
The GUI is actually becomming popular.  Also less training is required
for the sighted new computer user on a gui than there used to be with
DOS.  I must say that we will be left behind if we don't have access to
these gui's.  I think it will be quite awhile before it happens
completely but it will happen.  I definitely agree with anyone why says
to wait awhile longer to jump into anything concerning access to Windows
as the Synthavoice is a new product.  After a year or so there will be
some competition and the products will be improved even more.

... REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q)

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From: Jeff.Dubois@p666.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Dubois)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: editorial
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:01:40 GMT
Reply-To: Jeff.Dubois@p666.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:163/266.666 - Vision, Ottawa ON
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24850

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

An interesting article Isaac.
I found that other people tried to "assist" me more when I used a
cane.  My experience suggests that people assume that if you have
a dog, then you already have someone helping you.  Most people personify
dogs.

I, as a dog guide user, find two things disturbing and both incidents
relate to doors.  I don't know what it is about doors, but people
want to open them up for you all the time.
The two problems for me with this is:
1) Sometimes my bearings are dependent on those doors.  If they're
open I may pass right through and miss my accustomed route.  I generally
don't go too far past where the door should have been, but the fact
remains, it screws up my route.
2) A more aggravating problem though is when people hold the left
door open in double doors.  Somtimes their concentration may be so
focused on your body getting through that door frame that they let
go of the door forgetting about Dogface's left hind paw.

I don't think that snapping at someone for their good intention is
the proper response though.  Sure, we've all done it occasionally,
but to make a point of it as a principled stand for independence serves
no purpose, unless, of course, one is a surly codger and finds it
self0gratifying.

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From: The.Ranger@p0.f477.n104.z1.fidonet.org (The Ranger)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: New Mobility
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:59:20 GMT
Reply-To: The.Ranger@p0.f477.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/477.0 - Jaguar's Networking, Denver CO
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24814

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

        Oh I'm positive most of the time, well 95% of the time anyway.  I
normaly set aside about 2 days a year just to feal sorry for my self.  But
that get's real depressing fast and doesn't get much done, so it lasts for a
hour or so and I'm set for another 6 months.  <grin>  I can see how someone
could fall into the depression trap though.  Guess we all have our little
copeing methods.

Terry

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From: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: chatting online
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:07:29 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/319.0 - Mostly Mail, Aloha OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25063

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 KS> Another way to do this is to just let the guy say his piece, and
 KS> then drop down into your review mode
 RD> That's what  I've been doing, but I keep feeling sorry for the other
 RD> guy sitting
 RD> there wondering if I died or something.  (Actually, the few times this
 RD> has  happened, the "other" has been very understanding and tolerant.

I know what you mean about this sysop chat mode problem.  I always
nearly panic every time a sysop pulls me into chat mode.  I think though
that dropping into review mode and reading the other guy's message
doesn't take as long as it feels like to us.  No one has ever complained
about it to me, in any case.

Carol

... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?

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From: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Different Strokes!
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:20:42 GMT
Reply-To: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24918

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 IO> was less at times. I've never heard that a puller was bad
 IO> either. So we're in total agreement on this one. Those little
 IO> dogs are great friends and pets. they tell you a lot if you
 IO> listen and observe.

Isaac,
    Yeah, I was pretty sure we would agree on this, but I just threw out
my comment to see what general opinion was.

     Likewise, I fully empathise with your comments about how much a dog
can tell us once you're talking on the same wavelength, and yes, it does
take a while for this to fully occur!  Even now, with the 2 year mark
approaching on my partnership with LeeRoy, I am still learning to
interpret his subtle communications, cause he does speak quite
differently than my old pooch!  He is very obvious about some things,
such as verbally telling me when the water dish is empty or when he
wants to make an unscheduled pitt stop outside to do his thing, but
other things, like his pride when he's done something right, are still
more difficult to notice than they were with Strider.  For example, when
we make a particularly difficult crossing in good fashion, he just gives
a little wag of his stubby tail, while Strider's extremely long tail
would literally cause his whole hindend to shake from side to side as he
displayed his pleasure.

     It's funny, when I first came home with LeeRoy, I wasn't sure he
was happy, as he just wasn't as obvious about it as Strider was, but
now, not only am I sure he's happy, he's about the happiest dog I've
ever seen, and I don't think it's because he's changed that much, it's
just that I understand his lingo better now!
                                        Willie

... BlinkTalk - Voice of the disorganized blind@

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From: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Tandy Way)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: screen reader.
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:59:51 GMT
Reply-To: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24845

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 JM> And who the hell are you to stand in judgement of a blind or
 JM> handicapped person living on ssi. Maybe they couldn't find a

 I am in a damned good position I am blind and I  make a decent living
 for myself. but I am also a risk taker I went out there and beat down
 doors until I got a respectable job.  there  was no s s i when I was
 young and out of school so it was make it in the real world or die.
 Considering the alternative I decided to beat the system not let it
 beat me.  but I know too many people as I described in my original
 message who are not risk takers. . unemployment has always been a
 problem in this country but it is also a convient cop out for not
 getting off your butt and trying.  The blind don't have the market
 cornered on  piracy and I know that but our group is more self
 ritous than most about piracy and speech packages or other software
 but use the excuse that they can't afford it so it is okay to pirate
 it.
 end of message.

... An Elephant: A mouse Built to Government Standards
=== Via Silver Xpress V3.01

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From: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Hess)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: New Nerve Regeneration Operation
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:56:48 GMT
Reply-To: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24797

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a missive of <Sep 18 14:39> John Lynch (1:261/1000)
writes to All:

 JL> Ok, just heard this yesterday, some doctor on the east coast is
 JL> going to operate on 6 ( I think) paraplegics and use a technique
 JL> that has show some nerve regeneration on cats.  Is there hope
 JL> yet?  Meow, Meow. Regards, John

How about just operating to make quads into paras?  I could use the
freedom.  *adh*

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From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Spinal Centers
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:57:53 GMT
Reply-To: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24805

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Joe Chamberlain <18 Sep 92 07:51> John Lynch wrote:

 JL> Back in ot 1972 they didn't talk about sex.  I asked my VA ward
 JL> doctor about it, and his advise, go out and road test it.  I did and
 JL> I bought in!

     I just found the following books on the subject:

         TITLE:  Sexual concerns when illness or disability strikes

         TITLE:  Who cares? A handbook on sex education and counseling                         services for disabled people

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