HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:54:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Sep4.175435.3909
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

dalbec@clavin.Eng.Sun.COM (Gabe Dalbec) writes:

>>
>> The MODs in hardwired alone beat Unreal's butt.
>>
>All this talk about hardwired made me finally download it, but it doesn't
>work on the A3000.  I have tried 1.3 w/ degrader, but it doesn't work.
>Does anyone have any way of getting this demo running on the A3k?

>Thanks,
>-Gabe Dalbec
>A3000-25-157-10

I can get it to work with an A2500 (w/ A2620).  However, I couldn't
get it to work with A2630.  Therefore, I suspect the problem is caused
by the 030...

Yours sincerely,
Kelvin

                                            ____________________________
 __________________________________________/ Undergraduate, Class of 94 \___ 
/____________________________________________________________\_____/________\
|  Kelvin    /   Internet: Kelvin.Leung@Dartmouth.edu       ({o   o})       |
|   Leung   /       or     abs0@Coos.Dartmouth.edu        <  #  ^  #  >     | 
|__________/_______________________________________________(vvvvvvvvv)______|
| "Unless someone like you cares a whole |  Do you see a doll? a beast?     |
|  awful lot, nothing is going to get    |                                  |
|  better.  It's not."                   |  There are always more than one  |
|               -- Dr. Seuss (The Lorax) |  side to any story...            |
 \______________________________________/ \________________________________/
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Drivers and such (was Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon)
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:10:46 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Aug30.212831.3304@ctr.columbia.edu> by jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel):

> What are you saying, Peter, that the OS should come with drivers for every
> piece of hardware ever made?
> 
> Every PC application comes with a bunch of drivers?  What bullsh*t!

    Just talking PCs, I know the stuff I work on comes with various
    drivers, but they're built into a link library, so in fact each
    hardware configuration has a seperate .EXE file (this is hardware
    configuration for comms, internal serial ports vs modem sharing,
    so there's only two .EXE files involved).

    I think PC programming makes up for shit hardware/OS with
    excellent libraries that bury a lot of these sorts of details.

> | Jerry J. Shekhel  | Molecular Simulations | Time just fades the pages      |
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:22570 comp.sys.atari.st:12930
From: vombruch@quando.quantum.de (Stefan vom Bruch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon 030 specs released! No more rumor...
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:39:46 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Dave Litchman (dave@admiral.uucp) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug17.201937.14113@mits.mdata.fi> paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau) writes:
: >In article <1992Aug17.090237.24295@rhrk.uni-kl.de> seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Uwe Seimet) writes:
: >>paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau) writes:
: >>
: >>>I've heard that the new Amiga (A800) should be released next spring.
: >>That't to late for Commodore. Next spring everybody interested in a Falcon
: >>or A800 like machine will have bought the Falcon, won't he? :-)
: >
: >I don't know about me, for the moment I have very little money. Maybe
: >it will be spring before I have saved enough (that doesn't mean I'll
: >buy the Amiga).
: 
: I'm a die-hard Atari fan, but even if I had the money, I wouldn't buy a Falcon
: right away. Let's take a look at the last two computers Atari released, the
: STe and the TT. The STe is now starting to have some software written 
: specifically for it, but many software houses just don't bother, in the
: interest of staying ST-compatible with their new releases. Now, the TT has

I think the TT was intented for the more professional users; it's too pricey
for most ST users. While it's true that there doesn't seem to be a lot of
software around that says "TT only", you shouldn't ignore the fact that some
TT-software might still run on the ST because it doesn't use 60030 specific
code but still only makes sense on a TT (or STe).
The STe was just that: an ST with a little e(xtra).  I don't think it 
offers much more than an ST, so I can't see anyone "upgrading" from an ST
to an STe.
The Falcon030 is completely different. I think many ST users have been looking
for a faster machine with better sound and graphic capabilities at the right
price and the Falcon is just that. There will probably a lot of people who
want to upgrade and if there are enough users, Falcon-specific software will
be written.

: very little machine-specific software available, and considering the
: non-impact that the TT has had on the market, I would not expect too much
: more. In fact, if the Falcon is sucessful it may end up killing the TT complete-
: ly.
As far as I know the STe goes, the TT stays (for now). Considering what the
Falcon offers, it's much better value for money than the STe. The TT on the 
other hand is still faster (and more expensive...)

See ya, Stefan

-- 
 _--_|\            Stefan vom Bruch                         vombruch@quantum.de
/      | ______________________________________________________________________
\.--._/ (_      /  Quantum GmbH, Emil-Figge-Str.83, W-4600 Dortmund 50, Germany
_____v____) |/ /_)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. AmigaOS
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:30:50 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Sep1.102234.20724@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE) writes:
>: The Amiga is lacking in IPC mechanisms.  It doesn't have enough
>: support for multi-threaded applications, which is probably why we
>: haven't seen too many of them.

>How can the amiga support multi-threading when the OS doesn't use
>virtual memory management? 

Multithreading has nothing whatsoever to do with virtual memory.  In it's
typical meaning (eg, with respect to the Mach kernel for example), a "thread"
is a path of execution within one process context.  A process context, as in
UNIX, is a set of resources that live under a private instance of the machine's
address space.  In other words, process in such a system has its own address
space.  This requires an MMU, but doesn't require virtual memory (though any
modern system using this model is likely to have virtual memory).  Typically,
multiple threads communicate with one another via shared blocks of memory. 
This is facilitated via signals and semaphores, but there's no need for any
IPC.  IPC is Inter-Process Communication, which is the give-away -- multi-
threading is Intra-Process Communication.  

>The Amiga [OS] only has *one* address space and all processes use it, so in 
>effect the whole system is multi-threaded. 

That's basically true, except that in the AmigaOS case, various resources
are owned by individual "threads" (called Tasks or Processes on the Amiga),
whereas in a Mach-like system, resources would typically be owned by the
parent process of a set of threads.  Therefore, the Amiga task units have
the characteristics of both threads and processes -- it's their actual use
that determines which they really behave like.

>But this isn't really true as multi-threading only applies to virtual memory 
>systems.

No, it has nothing to do with virtual memory.

-- 
Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      BIX: hazy
	"Work like a horse, drink like a fish"	- Psychefunkapus
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: phsjs@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Stephen J.Smith)
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 07:17:36 GMT

In <1992Aug25.033214.24601@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.001250.5610@marlin.jcu.edu.au> phsjs@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Stephen J.Smith) writes:
>>In <1992Aug24.184027.28027@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>>
>>>After reading and posting to c.s.a.advocacy for over a year now, I
>>>am somewhat bothered by the fact that I don't have a clue as to what
>>>anyone looks or sounds like.  Would anyone be interested in uploading
>>>an IFF picture of themselves and possibly an IFF sound-byte?  If this
>>>sounds too goofy, sorry, but I'm not overly fond of not knowing what
>>>a person looks like and I'm afraid that my imagination would not do
>>>many of you justice.  :-)
>>
>>I think you'd be sorry.... :) Actually it would be interesting to see
>>what the others look like, or sound. 
>>
>>Are you going to catalog the info yourself?
>>
>>>Any thoughts?  After all, aren't we supposed to be multi-media type
>>>people because we own the worlds first multi-media machine?  :-)

>I sorta kinda almost have access to a scanner.  Would anybody be interested
>if I scanned something in?  Skip, what are you looking for? Pictures,...
>GPAs... :)  ....Screen shots of our computers???

>The IFF world depends on you, Skip........

>>>Skip Sauls
>>>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>>Stephen J. Smith	Technical Officer	phsjs@marlin.jcu.edu.au

>Lesse...  I see ol' Skip as a blond haired, blued, big built 6'6" guy
>with a fridge full o' beer and a red Chevy S-10 outside.  Right? Curly
>hair?  My I sound silly.

>I dunno about Stephen J. Smith...What do you guys think?

Me either... Well he looks nothing like Homer Simpson anyways....


>--
>das9674@usl.edu
>" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
>        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech
-- 
Stephen J. Smith	Technical Officer	phsjs@marlin.jcu.edu.au
Physics Department
James Cook University
Townsville QLD 4811
From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tandy's Multimedia CD Player (VIS)
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:11:02 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>[...]
>>digital audio waveform output.  They haven't said yet, but I believe
>>that the first units will be 286-based.  No price announced yet, btw.
>                              ^^^
>This is called "The kiss of death" in 1992. Even 386's are considered
>passe in PC Magazine.

According to Tandy, its custom chips lets it run as fast as other systems
with a 25Mhz 386SX (whatever that means; I'm not a PC type at all).

Apparently it has no general expansion bus, btw.  Typical Tandy.

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Best rumor of the week!!
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:56:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>        I heard a rumor that "Jeff Young" is actually an assumed name
>that Irving Gould uses when he wants to post to USENET.  Any truth
>to this?
>

I've suspected for sometime that Rosanne Barr and Irving Gould are one
and the same. Proof? Have you ever seen them both at the same place at
the same time?

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: 80,000,000 pc's can't be wrong
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:45:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.182917.42586@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

[ ]
>
>Ha ha ha ha ha ha.  Boy are you out of touch.  Mainframes are losing
>popularity to micros.  Downsizing is happening everywhere.  What are
>companies going to downsize to--an Amiga?  Probably not.  They'll get
>PC's, Macs, or Unix boxes with the majority being PC's.

Downsizing is not happening everywhere. Well, I suppose it depends on what
you mean by downsizing, but if by that you mean micros then I doubt that
this is happening. Mainframes/minis are acting as large database(servers).
Those taking the Unix route more often than not will go for a quiet X-terminal.
OS/2 may very well change things (it's a nice OS but MS is trying to do it
in using every trick in the book), but most DOS micros are, to be on the
extreme edge, useless.

[ ]

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG)
Subject: Re: Lynx (was Re: More Jeff Young Rambings)
Keywords: rubbish,utter rubbish,total rubbish
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:45:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.150719.498@cco.caltech.edu> andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew) writes:
>From: andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew)
>Subject: Lynx (was Re: More Jeff Young Rambings)
>Keywords: rubbish,utter rubbish,total rubbish
>Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:07:19 GMT
>10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:
>
>>> as Lynx.  Both the Nintendo LCD flip-floppies and Lynx are in the same 
>>> ball park.  Toys for kiddies.
>
>	Do you even know what a Lynx is, or are you just
>making it up as you go?

I've played with one in a local department store and the Amiga shop near 
where I live.

It's got colour!
It's got sound!?
It's not a computer!
It's a toy!

>
>--Andre
>
>-- 
>Andre Yew                             andrey@tybalt.caltech.edu (131.215.48.100)

Better add real smart people at caltech ask me how Lynx...

Jim...


Jim Fang - Bachelor of Economics (3) / B.E (3) .-_|\        Snail Mail
Monash University - Clayton, VIC, Australia   /     \       POA Box 539
InterNet  10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au     \_.-._/       Brentford Square
 E-Mail:  kroddos@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au            o     // Victoria 3131
          ece950aec3@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au       AMIGA \X/  Australia
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
SOCIALIST: someone who has nothing and wants to share it with everyone.
From: kuch@reed.edu (Jerry Kuch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tandy's Multimedia CD Player (VIS)
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:22:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug28.212252.8499
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Aug28.081631.14265@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <64788@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>>>Well, you can't say I didn't try to warn everyone ;-P
>>[...]
>>>digital audio waveform output.  They haven't said yet, but I believe
>>>that the first units will be 286-based.  No price announced yet, btw.
>>                              ^^^
>>This is called "The kiss of death" in 1992. Even 386's are considered
>>passe in PC Magazine.
>
>The 286, if that's the case, can be quickly changed. Tandy is very good at
>bringing new things quickly to market. One should not underestimate this
>product.
> 
>It's getting wild out there: Sega+CD, SNES+CD(), CD-I, Tandy VIS,
>some new Mac, Turbographix+CD, MPC's, Mac's, Amiga's, CDTV, etc...and you
>still have CD peddlers trying to get $500 for $50 products.
>
>Forgot- Ultimedia...
>
>Someone has to bring some order to all of this...
>
>Philip McDunnough
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu


-- 
Jerry Kuch (t-gerldk@microsoft.com) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
  "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
   Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet." - Montgomery Burns
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: Tandy's Multimedia CD Player (VIS)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:47:45 GMT

dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley) writes:
>I heard that it would be jointly developed by Tandy and Microsoft under
>the name "Gryphon"??

Yes, that was the original code name.  The project was begun in 1989,
altho I'd bet it was intermittent.

"VIS"?  Yuck.  At least Commodore picked a catchy name :-)

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:22432 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:14578
From: eephdma@prism.gatech.EDU (mark shewmaker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: MINDLIGHT: RESPONSE (commercial)----REPOST: Wrong number earlier.
Summary: The correct voice telephone number is (404) 822-0566.
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:34:23 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

A while back, avogel@eagle.wesleyan.edu asked about the MindLight
in csa.advocacy.  I showed the post to Mark Adams, who wrote the
MindLight Program.

I posted his reply here, but gave the wrong number.  Here it is
again with the *correct* telephone number.  The BBS number is still
valid, although his bbs isn't up this week.

---

Hi, my company, Geodesic Designs, Inc., is developing a new MindLight ...
The AcoustiMage !!!! To receive info on our product line, send us a postcard
or letter to P.O. Box 956068, Duluth GA 30136, or call us at 404 822 0566,
or leave mail on our BBS at 404 339-9995.  The new software has to be seen ...
Mark Adams.

-- 
mark shewmaker
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!eephdma
ARPA: eephdma@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:31:02 GMT

Chris_Millar@lppl.mi.org (Chris Millar) writes:
: Functionally, it's a piece of trash - boy, I can add 4 meg of RAM....whoppe
: freakin' do.................

You can do that through the bottom slot, boy.  You don't need to waste
your precious PCMCIA slot on that.

What was that?  You put an IBM-card into your Falcon?  Well, there
goes all that other neat stuff you could have had.

PCMCIA is a bus.  You can hot-insert and remove cards.  You can add
mass storage and networking through it, and you can drop a modem in.
You can put ram in.  You can put flash-roms in.  You can put a card
which acts as a portable ramdisk in...

It can already do more than that falcon processor direct slot.  I'm
not trying to cut you down, I'm just telling you that a bus is beter
than a non-bus.

Greg

--
(: (: (: (: Have you overdosed on smileys today?  Why NOT!?! :) :) :) :) :)
(: "...and here's Clinton giving the correct spelling of bong-resin..."  :)
(:	gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu			Gregory R. Block         :)
(: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (: (:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:26:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.050532.19480@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin) writes:
>das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>
>>In article <52689@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>>>	Since this is an Amiga newsgroup, why not distribute files in an
>>>acknowledged Amiga format?  I realize that some people who read this group
>>>own other computers; but in an Amiga group, I think it's their burden to
>>>find an IFF viewer, rather than an Amiga owners' to find a JPEG or GIF or
>>>Faces viewer.
>
>>Oh, well, if we do this, count me out.   The only Amiga I know of anywhere
>>is at an Amiga/Clone dealer in town.  I don't know how cooperative they'd
>>be.
>
>I don't know what this guy's problem is.  I don't even know why he's here
>if he doesn't use an Amiga, but I exchange files from time to time with
>Mac people, and even a Macintosh can display IFF and HAM files.

Well good for you.  Dan has been a regular poster for some time now and
although a PC user, he is interested in the Amiga.  If all the posts were
from Amiga fanatics who think that the Amiga is some sort of deity, lover,
or other such nonsense, this would be a boring newsgroup.

BTW, any PC with a SVGA card can display nearly any Amiga IFF, and the
results often look better than they do on any Amiga without a flicker-fixer.
Unfortunately, the same is not true in reverse as the Amiga's ancient
display technology is just not up to the task.

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu






















Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:28:58 GMT

In article <kkrebs.01ef@amilink.UUCP> kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs) writes:

>
>How about comparing the same 2 programs...?  There is no Links Amiga Pro so
>why compare Links 386 Pro to Links?  Maybe we'll get Links AA_Amiga Pro or
>something.

Or how about EGS/Rembrandt pro?

>-- 
>*********** NewOrderDepecheModeUltravoxViolentFemmesKillingJoke |Amiga 3000|
>*Ken Krebs* SkinnyPuppyLaTourBauhausBookOfLoveModernEnglishB52s |25Mhz/6Meg|
>*********** FishBoneBigCountryJoyDivisonSiouxsie&TheBansheesXTC |Multitask!|
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>       UUCP: uunet!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!citrus!amilink!kkrebs
>   InterNet: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us or: kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us


Jim Fang - Bachelor of Economics (3) / B.E (3) .-_|\        Snail Mail
Monash University - Clayton, VIC, Australia   /     \       POA Box 539
InterNet  10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au     \_.-._/       Brentford Square
 E-Mail:  kroddos@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au            o     // Victoria 3131
          ece950aec3@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au       AMIGA \X/  Australia
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
SOCIALIST: someone who has nothing and wants to share it with everyone.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 & HYPE!
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:54:44 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Sep03.023933.23168@microsoft.com> by iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy):

> my machine. Besides, I would rather have a DIG solution from C=, not some
> reverse engineered attempt from GVP.

    That's kind of narrow minded thinking, isn't it?

> /* IanK@Microsoft.com		*/
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***