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From: wiltsey@acsu.buffalo.edu (Richard S. Wiltsey)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: MG/B/A/GT Advice
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:41:33 GMT
Organization: UB


     I posted a message on alt.autos, so I'll post it here as well...
  I am a former owner of a 76 MG Midget, and am in the market for another
british auto.  I'd like to move into a MGB, or something, for the extra
size, and would like a little bigger engine, so I'm thinking of a GT.
Could anyone mail me their advice about some recomendations about some
models, and years to look into.  
     Also, I was mailed a message about dropping a Rover V8 into a MGB -
could you elaborate on the work it took to put it in, and compatibility
issues. Thanks.

                             Scott
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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: General Carb Questions...
Organization: guess
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:35:34 GMT

J Roland Defilippi writes:
"In general, the more barrels of carburator you have, the more
"accurate the fule metering over a range of rpms.  However, the
"economy usually suffered with the increase in performance--
"effectivly a smaller carb will run lean as you reach the limits of
"its capacity, giving less punch at high rpm but better economy.
"The six pack and tri power set-ups were a way around the economy
"problem (a friend's six-pack fury got 17mpg on the highway), but
"most people I know who don't have people looking under their hood
"prefer a good 4-bbl for drivability.

there are exceptions, though -- chrysler has a new dual-plane
single-4bbl manifold for the hemi, designed to be used with the holley
850cfm vac-sec oem replacement carb for a chevy big block [L88 i think].
it not only gets better mileage and driveability than the original
dual quads, it makes *more* power too!

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From: damong@vole.WPI.EDU (Damon F. Gentile)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Antique car Insurance
Date: 24 Jan 1993 07:32:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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Well I see that this is the place to ask about antique insurance.
But, please keep in mind that this is Massachusetts... where the law says
two things...  that nothing makes sense , and that insurance companies can
nail you as they see fit.   

I was wondering how much I coluld save by getting into an 'antique' or
'collector' category...  My baby is a 1974 Fiat X1/9, in restorable
(interpret: not always running at my request , but I have a body ...)
condition...  I've had it for seven months and put on only 1124 miles.
(belive me, I wish it could've been more...)  to bring it up to a total
of 42,300 miles.   And as to being garaged: If I had one , I would
be working on it now....

What could I gain from such a special insurance package? I'm 18, clean
(no convictions) driving record, completed driver's ed, and at the
best that you can be status for new drivers, and Ive been driving for 
about two years...   However, the insurance compnay (Traveler's)  has
sen it fit to give me a one thousand, two hundred and nineteen dollar
shaft.

{Also, does anyone happen to have a good way to beat/screw the insurance
company out of such ungodly rates ? }

Thanks,
Damon               damong@wpi.wpi.edu     73077,2420@CompuServe.com

From: zampicem@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mike Zampiceni)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:10:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Antique car Insurance
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique

I never was asked by J.C. Taylor on any of their forms whether my car was 
garaged when I had them as my insurer in the 1970's. It was only when I
got back into the car scene in the late 80's that I started having this
problem and noted more restrictions in general. This is not too surprising
because of greater losses, but they don't seem to make any distinctions.
Which would they rather have a car parked in -- a garage in a ghetto, or
in a security mobile park? I'd choose the latter.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:12:33 EST
From: <SPW101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: USED Ford Model A Shocks

I have all of the numbers for rebuilt shocks.  I need someone that has a
pair of used shocks that they want to get rid of, as long as they are
rebuildable.  If anyone can help me let me know.  I don't need the numbers
of the model A compainies I have them.  It's a 1931 Model A 5 window coupe
If anyone can help I would be very grateful...

Thanks in advance,
Stephen P. Wood
SPW101@psuvm.psu.edu
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From: jayj@fc.hp.com (Jay Johannes (Lvld))
Subject: Re: Any Saab enthusiasts out there?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:56:12 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Matthew Karl Scheidt (msc8+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: 
:     Are there any Saab enthusiasts reading this? Although I now own a
: '66 VW bus, I used to have a '67 Saab 96. I am toying with the idea of
: getting another old Saab, but I haven't found any for sale. The one I
: used to have was a 3-cylinder with 3 carbs on it, but think they may
: have been added later, or the whole engine was swapped once. The body
: was beyond repair (I think-numerous collisions shoddily repaired and a
: huge amount of rust) and everything mechanical was broken or makeshift
: and my dad wouldn't let me keep two cars, so it sadly had to go. I live
: in Ohio (Dayton), but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested in cars
: from other areas. Thanks in advance. -Matt

Sounds like you had a Monte Carlo. You may have problems finding another
as nice as that was a rare combination. I own a 71 Sonett which I have
had for 12 years now. It is currently down for paint, glass work, and
interior. You really might want to look in other areas. I junked out a
'71 96 about a year ago. Bad mechanically, but the body was in nice
shape. It could have been easily saved.  There are still a fair number
of 96s floating around here.  Virtually all of them are V-4s, but I do
know a guy up in FT Collins who has several unrestored 2-strokes. He
offered to give me one as the basis for a vintage racer last summer. I
expect there might be stuff available.

One last note. In the past, I have steered a couple of people on to
Colorado rust-free stuff only to have them take them back to the midwest
and ruin them as daily drivers.  Just because something is still in
reasonable supply in one area doesn't make it fair game for trashing. We
are currently going through some weirdness here with early MGBs. Every
unrestored example is being bought up and disappearing. A dealer in
Longmont has had a steady stream of British roadsters flowing through
the place for the last six months.  Every one is labelled "SOLD" as soon
as it hits the lot.  I suspect these are finding their way back to
England. It is a shame, as there really isn't anything else to replace
them, and something which used to be drivable and fun is rapidly
becoming rare.

  Regards,
    Jay
From: msc8+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Karl Scheidt)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Any Saab enthusiasts out there?
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:51:40 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    Are there any Saab enthusiasts reading this? Although I now own a
'66 VW bus, I used to have a '67 Saab 96. I am toying with the idea of
getting another old Saab, but I haven't found any for sale. The one I
used to have was a 3-cylinder with 3 carbs on it, but think they may
have been added later, or the whole engine was swapped once. The body
was beyond repair (I think-numerous collisions shoddily repaired and a
huge amount of rust) and everything mechanical was broken or makeshift
and my dad wouldn't let me keep two cars, so it sadly had to go. I live
in Ohio (Dayton), but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested in cars
from other areas. Thanks in advance. -Matt
From: zampicem@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mike Zampiceni)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:13:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Any Saab enthusiasts out there?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique

Yep, I'm sure you must have had a Monte Carlo, because that's the one
that had the three carb setup. I had a red '65 that I owned for about
a year. They're not practical for those that don't want to tinker with
their cars. There was always something piddling going out, not to
mention the transmissions, which are the nemesis of SAABs. Mine crapped
out a short time after I bought it, but luckily the shop I bought it
from made good on it and rebuilt it again.

The shop owner says in the last few years that parts are drying up pretty
bad on the two-strokers. Even parts for the V-4s ('68 - '73) are becoming
hard to get. I'm sure Paul could feel you in on the current status of
things and might be able to provide you with some leads. He always has
a few model 95s and 96s in his storage shed. His shop is the SAAB Factory,
and his number is 408-241-SAAB. (Clever, eh.)

As far as paint colors are concerned, I don't think the respondent was 
correct that mentioned that only one color per year was offered.

From one SAABophile to another, good luck....
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From: scohen@shell.portal.com (Seth D Cohen)
Subject: Re: gas headlights
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:46:04 GMT

On Mon, 18 Jan 1993 20:32:08 GMT in group rec.autos.antique, Joshua_Putnam wrote:
: In <1jet77INNi5n@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
: 
: >I was hoping somebody could clue me in on gas headlights on
: >*really old* brass-era antique cars.  I know that there is
: >usually a canister containing two (?) chemicals, often mounted
: >to the running board or something.  The chemicals mix and
: >give off some sort of gas (acetylene?) and a tube carries the
: >gas to the headlights where it is burned.
: 
: >So, my questions are:
: 
: >Exactly what are the chemicals needed to run the system and are
: >they still readily available in a form suitable for this use?
: 
: Calcium carbide and water, the same combination used in miners'
: lamps and old fashioned bicycle headlamps.  A controlled flow of
: water produces a regular flow of acetylene gas.
: 
: Carbide lamps are still made, and the carbide itself is still
: available, but I don't recall any sources offhand.
: 
  I believe that you will be able to purchase carbide from a camping
supply store.  They sell carbide lamps and the carbide for people
who are into camping and caving.


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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Any Saab enthusiasts out there?
Organization: guess
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:05:01 GMT

zampicem@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mike Zampiceni) writes:
"As far as paint colors are concerned, I don't think the respondent was 
"correct that mentioned that only one color per year was offered.

yes, more than 1 color was offered, but what i said was '*mostly* 1
color'.  they naturally also offered whatever paint they had left over
from previous years.	;^>

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From: alan@ctsx.celtech.com (Alan Dahl)
Subject: Re: swap meets in the washington, oregon area .......
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:00:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cellular Technical Services, Seattle, WA
Keywords: puyallop(sp) swap meet

In article <8339@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> davidme@tekig5.pen.tek.com (David R Meadors) writes:
>
>
>    can any west coast netters tell me when the first of the two swap
>    meets up north are held .....
The Tacoma Model T Ford Club (Puyallup) swap meet will be Saturday and
Sunday February 13th and 14th. Admission is $3/person. If you want a stall
you better hurry, the indoor ones are almost all gone (last year we
almost sold out the outdoor ones). E-mail me if you need more info.

- Alan Dahl, Tacoma Model T Ford Club

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From: william@bach.udel.edu (Wild William)
Subject: Electronic igintion for '67 mustang
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:53:54 GMT

I am looking to put a new distributor into my '67 mustang and hope to
put an electronic setup.  From what other Fords can I get the
distributor and wires to hook into my car?  Has anyone done this?  Is
it worth it? or should I just get a rebuilt points / condenser setup?

Thanx in advance


Bill
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From: fec@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (f.e.carey)
Subject: Insurance
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:38:48 GMT


Sneed, Robinson, and Gerber - an insurance agency in
Memphis, Tennessee, has been insuring traditional
street rods for years and has recently extended their
program to selected collectible cars which I believe
includes the muscle cars of the sixties and seventies.
There are use restrictions but they are not as restrictive 
as, say, J. C. Taylor.  Sneed, et. al. takes big ads
in most street rod magazines or you could surely get
their phone number from Memphis directory assistance.

Frank Carey at Bell Labs

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From: fec@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (f.e.carey)
Subject: Re: gas headlights
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:35:11 GMT


The materials needed are carbide and water.  The device mounted
on the old runnning boards was an acetylene generator in which
the carbide was placed.  Water was somehow metered in.

A friend with a 1911 Cadillac uses the original headlights for
driving but not the generator - says it's unreliable, hassle, etc.
He uses small cylinders of industrial acetylene gas which he
hides under the car somewhere.  The headlight brightness is
extraordinary - as good as sealed beam headlights.  Lighting
the lamps is quite a show:  the tank valve is opened, a match
is lit and held to the lamp burner, a huge flame leaps forward
out of the lamp for several feet until the tank valve (possibly
a lamp valve) is adjusted.

Frank Carey at Bell Labs
From: wojcik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Wanted: 1967/68 Mustang parts
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:04:48 EST


	I'm looking for warning light holders that came
with the convience group option on 1967/68 Mustangs.
The version I need came on air conditioned cars. These
4 light holders are mounted in the console to dash
connecting piece, two on either side of the sliding door.
The 4 holders are labeled with DOOR, PARK, FUEL, BELT.

		ANY INFO APPRECIATED.
					
				Jim Wojcik
				216-646-3869
				Cleveland, Ohio

	jawojcik@tews03.cs.hh.ab.com
	wojcik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com



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From: MOD31490@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Christian Hornhardt, Modula)
Subject: Speedometer for 1940 Chrysler Windsor
Reply-To: MOD31490@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de
Organization: RVS, Universitaet Hannover, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:43:03 GMT


Hi,
I am looking for some parts, that are missing on a 1940 Chrysler Windsor.
When we bought the car it was in original condition (stored since the early 50`s) but
somebody had removed the speedometer. Now I am looking for an original or a rebuilt
meter that fits in the car.
Since the car has no `blinkers`, and the german gouvernment requires them, I am also
looking for some fitting `blinkers`, like those on the 1941 Chrysler Windsor.

Thank you so far

Christian
From: rjarecki@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Robert Jarecki)
Subject: Re: gas headlights
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:57:13 GMT

I notice that there was no mention of the fact that if your
headlight goes out, and you don't let the gas that has been
accumulating inside ventilate, it is possible to have a small,
but destructive, explosion inside the headlight.

Organization: Senior, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:18:37 -0500 
From: J Roland Defilippi <jd1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: General Carb Questions...

If I an not mistaken, most engines that came with the bigger carb
also had improvements elsewhere to handle the increase in horses.
The Chevy 350 4-bolt 4bbl is a case in point, as is my 67 Moper
383 4-bbl, which comes with larger valves in the heads, as well
as dual exhaust standard.  On many engines, the larger carb(s)
were optional because they reduced drivability at low speeds.
The 3x2-bble set-ups were prone to bogging if the rpms were not
high enough.

In general, the more barrels of carburator you have, the more
accurate the fule metering over a range of rpms.  However, the
economy usually suffered with the increase in performance--
effectivly a smaller carb will run lean as you reach the limits of
its capacity, giving less punch at high rpm but better economy.
The six pack and tri power set-ups were a way around the economy
problem (a friend's six-pack fury got 17mpg on the highway), but
most people I know who don't have people looking under their hood
prefer a good 4-bbl for drivability.

Still, there's nothing like the sound of the barn doors opening
up on a Carter TQ or Rochester QJ as the secondaries come into
their own.

--Roland
From: Frank.Mallory@f417.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Mallory)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: WANTED: 1923 Grey-Dort Photo
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:54:51 -0500

 JG> She is interested in finding photographs of this car, preferably the 
 JG> sedan,
 JG> so any information (book or article references, advertising material,
 JG> museums, archives or private collectors that may have material or the
 JG> car itself) would be of interest.

Here in the Washington, DC, area, she should write to the Library of Congress,
National Archives, and Smithsonian Institution. They each have excellent
collections of automobile photos.



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From: mwilson@max.arc.nasa.gov (Michael A. Wilson)
Subject: reply to jnissen@austin.ibm.com
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:44:32 GMT

I've tried e-mail to you to the addresses:
   jnissen@austin.ibm.com
   jnissen@jnissen.austin.ibm.com
   jnissen%jnissen@austin.ibm.com
The first 2 failed outright, the third was accepted by IBM but then bounced
back because mail across boundaries was not accepted...

Anyway, as to the car:
Nope. I'm pretty sure that the drive train is all thats left of the
Falcon.  It was the family and then kid's car of another friend for
many many years.  Not sure what year it was, but '63 or '65 sounds
about right...  Mike
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From: cj137@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jack Jeffries)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: **** 1903-1959 Original Advertising ****
Date: 24 Jan 1993 16:48:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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From: lgolder@hoh.mbl.edu (Robert Golder)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Need Advice: Purchasing 4WD SUV
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:37:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Marine Biological Laboratory

Until quite recently, I owned a 1989 Toyota 4Runner: 2-door, 4-cyl., manual
locking hubs, standard transmission.  I was quite satisfied with most aspects 
of the vehicle's performance.  Unfortunately, I had an opportunity to test the 
vehicle's crashworthiness.  I'm pleased to report that my wife and I got
through the experience without a scratch.  However, the 4Runner is totalled.

I would like to replace the 4Runner with a similar new or recent vehicle.  
Comments from owners of late-model SUV's would be particularly welcome.  
I must have a standard shift.  I don't trust electronic 4WD mechanisms, but am I 
out of date to be so prejudiced?  I am likely to be operating in wet, muddy or icy 
situations, if this makes a difference.  I tend to put a lot of miles on a vehicle, 
mostly local and highway driving, plus long trips during which the vehicle is 
loaded with 4 occupants, outdoor gear and a canoe on top.  The hardest offroad use 
will likely be carefully picking one's way down a steep, damp, boulder-strewn trail,
or through a flooded trail in a bog, to get to a remote fishing spot (there is also
the matter of getting out, too, so reliability is an important factor).  Thank you 
in advance for your help.

Bob