HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Spagthorpe Hindenburg
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:27:22 GMT
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <1993Jan26.163623.13341@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>In article <6560@balrog.ctron.com> tavares@ctron.com writes:
>>
>>Well make sure you check the plug wires frequently.
>>You wouldn't want to get stuck somehwere in a rain storm because of
>>spongy wires.
>>Get stuck somewhere like, oh I dont know, Conn/Penn border in a torrential
>>downpour would be a bummer.
>>
>Yeah, it would be.  Esp. since Ct. and Pa. don't share a border. :-)
>Dean


Picky, picky, picky.    Besides, you should have noted that it's
pronounced "beemer", not "bummer".   Further besides, what he *really* meant
was that it would be *real* bad (and it certainly would be!) to be stuck in
a torrential downpour at a non-existant border!   Tell me that wouldn't be
bad <??>    (sound of twilight zone music)



Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
  DoD #0709   doh #0000000004  &  AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
                BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                          Columbus, Ohio USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bcd@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Bryan Dunlap)
Subject: mail order fork tubes, regulator
Organization: OSU Physics Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:40:59 GMT

Anybody have recommendations on good places to get the following?

fork tube for 75 Suzuki GT250
fork tube for 76 Honda CB360
voltage regulator for CB360

Bryan Dunlap, OSU Physics Dept.      | Giving money and power to government is
bcd@mps.ohio-state.edu  614/292-3402 | like giving whiskey and car keys to 
174 W. 18th Ave. Columbus OH 43210   | teenage boys.  -- P.J. O'Rourke
DoD# 881   AMA# 653094    '75 GT250   '76 CB360T
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Aerostitch Questions
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:17:10 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

>>First:  the left sleve has three strips
>>of velcro (different lengths) down near the wrist.  These
>>pieces won't "crow" to each other as they are all the same
>>type.  Does anyone know what these are for?
>
i'M SORT OF IMPRESSED WITH MY NEW aERO (BLOODY	KEYBOARD). It is not optimum
for anything, but is second best at everything. This makes it the most 
useful, versatile bit of gear I've got (after the bike). In fact its the ONLY 
bit of gear I've ever bought specially designed for biking which has not been
expensive utter crap.

The REALLY funny
bit is another area of Velcro. The front flap. It has two incjes of velcro,
then 2 inches of gap, then two more inches of velcro etc. This  makes an
otherwise astonishingly warm suit useless in cold and/or rain. It is clearly
made in a country without weather. GET AN AERO, theyre wonderful, but as 
soon as you get it, sew a proper solid length of velcro down the front. This
makes it functional. This 'design feature' has me flummoxed - its so damned
obvious, yet it must have been far more work for them to cock it up than to
get it right!
>
>The manual also mentioned this.  I believe the suggestion
>was to avoid looking in mirrors (love that Duluth humor,
>but it's nice to read a not-totally-serious manual).
>
>
I thought the best bit of humour was to class all temperatures below 60F
								     ^^^
as COLD weather riding. That blows my whole year away. Printed it with a 
completely straight face too.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Subject: Re: 2-Cylinder Honda 500? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Not much.
Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:18:55 +0000


In article <1993Jan22.092113.1@skcla.monsanto.com> mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>In 1978 or so, was there a 2-cylinder Honda 500 or 550 (or something close?)
>
>If so, what was it, and were they anything interesting?

There was a vertical twin 450 which was considered quick for its day. It had, 
I believe, the Honda pressed steel frame construction like the early Benly 
and my uncle had one. Nothing special though.

Tony


+-----------------+-------------------------------+--------------------------+
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| Morgan Towers,  |Warmer with a 670 MB Hard Disk.| E-Mail                   |
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| Bromley,        |Beautiful  Down Town  Bromley. | tny@cix.compulink.co.uk  |
| England BR1 3QE |Honda ST1100  ==*==  DoD# 0801 | 100024.301@compuserve.com|
+=================+===============================+==========================+
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: To KotL
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:27:16 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Robert D Castro (rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: >
: >I hereby propose a new rule: All newbies who get gang FAQed must record the
: >number of FAQs they recieved during their initiation. THEN when any NEW newbies
: >come along, the former newbies (now rightfully denizens) each must send the
: >new newbies as many copies of the FAQ as they themselves recieved in order to
: >make the initiation procedure *more interesting* than it already is. heh heh ;-)
: >
: >Whatdyall think.
: 
: 
: I second that motion!

I'm sorry guys, but as we all know this violates DoD Rule #1.  Therefore
apply Rule #0.
--

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* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* Computing Center at Virginia Tech, not Vermont ----------------------^^     *
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: Hey, Europe,
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:17:46 GMT

In article <C1A0su.C0s@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Flash) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.222751.13555@exu.ericsson.se> lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos) writes:
>>>Don't worry about posting it, the yanks can handle it.! :-)
>>>
>>Okay, okay I will post it, it's nothing special:
>>
>>This is PBs reply to CycleWorlds down to PB for dragging his knee
>>while cloaked in tartan hat, dress & bike.
>>
>>"Spotted in US mag 'Cycle World' by Chris Dale of Yiewsley. 
>>The US is the most repressed nation on earth - everyone
>>is required by law to love god, own a gun, and be 
>>extremely fat. America would be a nice place to 
>>to live if it weren't for the Yanks."
>
>
>"Hey, Europe, EAT MY FLORIDA!" - B. Kliban 
>(This insult may require a map consultation.)

Up your Missisippi?

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
Deceleration Trauma - hitting the ground after jumping off Canary Wharf.
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
From: bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:17:35 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
>>p.s. these two GSX-Rs has 'USA' plates on them.  Sorry, Americans, your
>>reputations have been seriously tarnished by these guys!
>
>OH MY GOD!  What will I do now?!?!  Some guy named Stickland in England
>doesn't think much of us Americans because two of us don't ride fast
>enough!  Oh Calamity!
>
>David.

Well, you get the award for total miscomprehension of that post.

Let's summarise:

Thread argues about which bikes are quickest.  I quote Randy saying "it's
the rider that counts".  I recall two GSX-R poseurs in full race-style gear
who were crap, and mention an Aberdonian I know with an old GS550 who is 
quicker than me on a VFR750 on a twisty road.  Oh yes, I then threw in a
postscript, with no smiley.

Now, was I:

a) Saying a GSX-R is slower than an old GS550?
b) Saying anyone from Aberdeen is faster than any American?
c) Saying nothing about speed but something about Fast Bike Poseurs?
d) as (c), plus assuming some intelligence on the part of the reader?
e) as (c) and (d), consequently not using a smiley?

-- 
# Tim Stickland # bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk #  It's not cynicism.  I just think   #
# School of Biology, Univ. of Bath,     #  people overvalue argument because  #
# Bath, BA2 7AY, U.K. # TEL +44 (0)225  #  they like to hear themselves talk. #
# 826826 x5864 # FAX +44 (0)225 826779  #   (Iain Banks)                      #
From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: TT '93
Date: 15 Jan 1993 12:31:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK) Ltd
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com


Isle of Man TT Races 1993

Monday May 31st..Friday June 4th	practice

Saturday June 5th	1400	TT Formula 1
			1700	Sidecar "A"

Monday June 7th		1000	125cc
			1230	Sidecar "B"
			1500	Classic Parade

Wednesday June 9th	1000	Junior TT
			1230	Supersport 600

Friday June 11th	1000	Senior TT

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         #     DoD#226        GSXR1100L  #
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: I bought the '92 Ducati 900SS :-) :-)
Organization: Pages Software Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:37:42 GMT

Gregory Starr ME.DEPT writes
> Compared to my '86 VFR, it is a different machine.  Much lower,
> tighter, not as fast but lots more fun to ride.  Very stable
> and precise. 

Really?  I would've figured engine technology would've put the 900SS way ahead  
of the '86 750 VeeFour.

> P.S.  I was going to announce the VFR was for sale, but my wife
>       convinced me to keep it for my boys to ride.  Now don't
>       you guys wish you had had me and my wife for parents! :-)

Gee, maybe I'll hold onto mine.
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:45435 rec.scuba:7189
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Ninny alert over in rec.scuba!!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:46:30 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu
Keywords: ninny alert
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1993Jan16.060725.1204@elektro.cmhnet.org>, charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
> In article <JET.93Jan15162621@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
> >
> >>Welcome to rec.scuba.  The newsgroup is for discussion of scuba,
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 

> 
> I've noticed that the water gets pretty deep here in wreck.moto, too ...

*sniff* *sniff*  That ain't water *I* smell . . . .  :-P

Mark   
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alex@csn.org (ALEX MATTHEWS)
Subject: Re: That T2 motorcycle jump... Not real, just magic
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:13:50 GMT

In article <viking.727599177@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver) writes:
>
>>No they didn't trash the bike in the movie. The jump was indeed bullshit. 
>>They had guy wires on the bike to guide it gently to the ground. They then
>>digitally edited the frames and wiped out the wires. Just another example
>>of the use of computers in mainstream movies.
>
>	That's not what I read in rec.moto when the movie first came out.
>If you can't trust the net for facts, what can you...  Oh.  Sorry.

The Winter 1993 issue of Skeptical Enquirer has an article entitled
"Photographic Proof? Not For Long" that details many of the recent
computer-retouched films, including T2.  Realism (suspension compression
on impact, etc.) is a direct function of the sturdiness of the 
contraption that does the "flying".  The better the touch-up technology,
the more obtrusive and sturdy the contraption may be:

"Wire removal has figured in numerous big-budget films.  The zero-gravity
assasination sequence in Star Trek VI used wire removal as well as
computer graphics to create the floating blobs of "blood" that spilled
from the floating Klingon victims.  The slow-motion sequence in Terminator
2 in which Arnold Schwarzenegger jumps a motorcycle off a bridge and
into the dry bed of the Los Angeles River was not slow motion at all;
the bike was held in a bulky steel cage, suspended from thick cables,
and lowered on a crane at about the speed you see on the screen.  Then
all the support hardware was removed (by computer)."  SI Winter 1993


-- 
- Alex Matthews  (new address: alexm.csn.org)

  "A typical Grand Prix race.  High noon.  Tension mounts.  Throttles clench."
                        Patricia Zonker, _Murdercycles_
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 93 23:03:09 CST
From:         Brad Thone <C09615BT@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      '82 KZ550 4-sale, Missouri
Newsgroups:   rec.motorcycles

'82 Kawasaki KZ-550 LTD for sale.
less than 20K miles.
needs rear tire and battery to put it on the road.
new chain, new cables, just tuned, ran great (before battery died)
I would keep it (really!), but I just don't have the extra $150 or so
to give it a battery and tire....

Priced to move.  great for bummin' around.

Brad Thone.
c09615bt @ wuvmd.bitnet
c09615bt @ wuvmd.wustl.edu
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:34:08 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

> In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
>>p.s. these two GSX-Rs has 'USA' plates on them.  Sorry, Americans, your
>>reputations have been seriously tarnished by these guys!

Maybe it was just a couple of Brits who like to pretend they're Americans....
-- 
Bruce Clarke       B.C. Environment
                   e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Are BMWs form or function?
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:59:36 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <478@rd1.interlan.com>, tavernin@rm1.interlan.com (Victor Tavernini) writes:
> 
> BTW, how do you get one of those numbers? Who is the KoTL? Why do
> Canadiens drive perfectly normal in their own country, but once they
> enter So. Florida ...  Answers to these and others questions in the next
> episode of "YOUR MIND IS CHEESE!"
> 
> Don't even think about FAQ'ing me, cause I FAQ back!

I'd give a 3.7 for the flame (no obvious degree of difficulty),
with 2 points deducted for being such a blatant wannabe,
for a grand total of 1.7.

South Florida, hmmm.  You know, a mind is a terrible thing to baste.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Donuts!  Is there anything they     |
 | DoD# 541   Drink 'old Draino'      |  can't do? "           Homer         |
 | Highly Individual Flaming Idiot    |                                      |
From: John.Hamilton@kennel.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 1972 Kawasaki H2 lives....
X-Sender: newtout 0.07 Jan 18 1993
Date: 26 Jan 93  23:16:14

Tuesday January 26 1993 22:01, Michael Nelson wrote to John Hamilton:

 JH->> Well, I bought it for a nostalgia investment, so I guess I'll just
 JH->> run it once in a while, and let it sit in my living room the rest
 JH->> of the time as a conversation piece. If it didnt' have a gas tank
 JH->> and an engine, it would look like a bicycle! :-)

 MN>     Why don't you give it to Ed?

What, and waste a good moto?

John

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: young@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Norm Young)
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD?!?
Reply-To: young@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Organization: Communication Research Centre
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:33:31 GMT

In article 728080355@soliton, thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
> > Ok, now we're talking.  I know, well kill two birds with one stone.
> > All of us North American DoD'er will fly across the pond, and conduct
> > our UK vs. US health system flame war in person, over several nice pints.
> 
> I can tell you right now on which side of the pond the better beer is made.
> 
> And, unfortunately, it ain't the side I'm currently on...

Hey, speak for your *own* part of North America.

Not all DoD'ers on this side of the pond drink Bud or Miller you know.  
Some of us guzzle an occasional frosty Upper Canada Lager or a Mooshead
or a Bra d'Or or...

Sometimes we even put our beer in the fridge to warm it up when Brits
are visiting. 

---
Norm Young           | '77 Bonny     Sunday afternoon Putt
Communications       | '80 CBX       Friday night Scream
Research Centre      | '92 ST        Summer Ramble
Ottawa, Ontario      | Still looking for a ring-a-ding smoker.. 
Tel: 1-613-990-8779  | E-Mail: young@crc.doc.ca
Fax: 1-613-990-7987  | Disclamer?  Huh?          DoD #0770

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO)
Subject: Re: California Superbike school cancelled FOREVER
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:12:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.201525.21147@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>
>I just called the California Superbike School (the one run by
>Keith Code) to ask if a German national could take the
>school, only to find out that Keith Code has quit and
>disbanded the school as of friday.  The person I talked to
>said that "he just got tired of it" when I asked why they
>were quitting.  She said that they'd return my check.
>
>Damn, I was looking forward to taking it.

DAMN!  DAMN!   DAMN! 

So was I.

Anyone know of another school similar to Keith's?

Nick   DoD#6425

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Drops
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:00:59 GMT

In article <30177@castle.ed.ac.uk> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
>
>The only other time I've dropped a bike at a stop light was when I
>tried to put my leg down at the stop light and discovered that the
>Ducati's kickstarter was up my trouserleg.

    Ever ride a bike with the once "trendy" jocky shift and suicide clutch?
the way it works, at a red light or stopsign, you roll up to the stopping
point, push in the clutch pedal, and just after you are going so slow that
the drag in the clutch prevents shifting to neutral, the bike starts to go
to the clutch side. Now you have to choose, keep your foot on the clutch
and maybe drop the bike on your leg, try to kill the engine and maybe drop
the bike on your leg, keep going and maybe get run over or arrested.


Ed Campbell
        Email ed@Tekelec.com (seems to work)
doh 0000005774 

'57 FL '76 XLCH  My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


#insert std_getas
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       getalife      getajob      getsomebooze      (...etc.)


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@askinc.ASK.COM (Charlie Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Inexpensive, Reliable Work
Keywords: Replace Gasket '82 CSR 1000
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:44:31 GMT
Reply-To: charlie@askinc.ask.COM (Charlie Adams)
Distribution: ba
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

Hello,

I have just moved to the South Bay Area.  Rode my bike from NJ.  4000 Miles
of cold wet travel have taken their toll on my 1982 Kaw. CSR 1000.  I need
to have the valve gasket (I'm told) replaced.  Any suggestions for a good
shop in the Mountain View or Sunnyvale or Los Altos area?

Thanks

Charlie
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:45126 ba.motorcycles:1534
From: hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Guppie in pond wants BMW info.
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:10:50 GMT
Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.1]

William E. Johns;S23015 (bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu) wrote:
: I think this is the second reference to the high output voltage regulator
: for a boxer.  Where do you get these devices?  I'd like some more info please.

here's some info.  "high output voltage regulator" is a misnomer.
the regulator just changes the RPM at which maximum charging occurs.
on the "old" boxers, that would be at about 4k RPM.  with the new
regulator, it's just below 2k RPM.

you will benefit from the change if you consistently ride
below 4k RPM.  if you don't, save your money.  or just buy
a battery charger and plug it in every so often.

-- hesh
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Hollywood parodies the Dod!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:05:11 GMT

In article <C1BK96.AIs@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
|
|Naw, that's just art (?) imitating art. "Top Gun" was the inspiration
|for the lunacy seen around here.

And of course, our own Mary "KotFR" Shafer was the inspiration for "Top Gun".

:-)

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD?!?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:32:35 GMT
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Originator: ben@soliton

> Ok, now we're talking.  I know, well kill two birds with one stone.
> All of us North American DoD'er will fly across the pond, and conduct
> our UK vs. US health system flame war in person, over several nice pints.

I can tell you right now on which side of the pond the better beer is made.

And, unfortunately, it ain't the side I'm currently on...

--
Ben Cox, MacAndrews fan, DoD#456
thoth@uiuc.edu