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From: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA to introduce hi-tek
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:06:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19915
Reply-To: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU


      In the ensuing four-match test series with India, South Africa is
proposing to introduce the using of slow motion replys for the purpose of
determining whether a batsman is out or not (for stumping, run out and hit
wicket). They are proposing that there should be a third umpire in the
pavilion whom the the umpires on the field can consult, if they want in case of
an appeal for a run out, stumping or hit wicket. If a similar thing was used,
there would have been at least two dismissals in the fourth ODI at Lords, one
of Smith (it may be Lamb) and one of Salim Malik - both were out by at least a
foot when reply was shown.

       South Africa is proposing that there should be one neutral umpire for
each of the four tests. They are asking the West Indian umpire who officiated
for the World Cup for the first two tests and an as yet unnamed English umpire
for the other two tests.

Source: BBC Sports Roundup
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From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Some more news on the Duleep Trophy semis
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:14:19 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <009600E4.C5F1CCA0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>Begin clip from Sadiq [Taaza Taaza jalebi ...oops...Khabar] Yusuf
>
>North v/s South
>
>        Maninder Singh n.o. 66

>        [ Maninder 6/23 ]

>        BTW, the newspaper guy says today that Maninder seems to have
>regained his appetite for big cricket , and that his captaincy in this match
>was "a revelation".


Hey, he was in as good form even before the tour down under last year.
In a match between the Indian team and the Rest of India (captained,
ironically, by Kapil), Maninder opened in the second innings and
scored a confident and chanceless 50 against Srinath and Prabhakar.

His omission from the Indian team in the last year was pure bias on
the selectors' part (the Indian team selection tends to be highly
politicized along geographical and national political party lines).
Hope they do the right thing this time.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Subject: The art of Swing
Keywords: need article
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:32:20 GMT

Hi, i have been hearing about an article that appeared on rsc
a long time ago, before i got onto it. i would appreciate it
if someone who has that article which goes into great detail
on why a cricket ball swings etc and stuff to please email
it to me.
Thanks, 

aamir@cs.sfu.ca
From: moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Godfrey Evans (Was: Accusations of Cheating)
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:55:08 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug28.114951.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cnar08@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>Here are a few paragraphs from an article in The Daily Telegraph 27 Aug 92
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The "ball doctoring" allegations against Pakistan have been
>widely disapproved by former test players.They roundly 
>condemn the charges as SOUR GRAPES.

>Godfrey Evans: ..... It is simply a case that the Pakistanis bowled
>better than us,whether the ball was doctored or not.

Well, it takes a neutral mind to say that!

But, on a totally separate note, is Godfrey Evans still alive? He
must be well into Nineties, if I am not mistaken. 

Coming to think of it, how many of the pre-World War II players are
still around? 

Of the Ashes series of 1932-33 (better known as the bodyline rubber),
I remember reading somewhere that only a couple of players have
survived. Is it true?

Nadeem Moghal
USC
From: aapfl6!zulfiqar@aapfl1.attmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: PAK, ENG  ONE DAYS ON PPV
Date: 29 Aug 1992 11:26:59 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu




        England vs Pakistan One Day Internationals would be televised
        in the state of New York on various cable companies on

                FRIDAY    AUGUST 28   03:00 PM (ET)     4th MATCH
                SATURDAY  AUGUST 29   03:00 PM (ET)     5th MATCH

        Call your cable company to sign up for these games on PPV.
        The charge for one game is $19.95
From: subbarao@nmsu.edu (Ravi Subbarao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: URGENT!!!  Need article explaining Cricket for novices.
Keywords: cricket, novice, game
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:55:37 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University

Hi Guys,

Can somebody send me the copy of the article I saw in the net sometime
back explaining about the "game of cricket" for novices, expecially for 
Americans? I need this urgently!!

Thanks a lot.

Ravi Subbarao
<subbarao@nmsu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: yoon@meaddata.com (Yoonho Ha)
Subject: USVBA team 
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:25:31 GMT
Distribution: usa

I know this has been posted before, but does anyone have the phone number for
the USVBA?  I'm looking into starting a USVBA team.  It's probably too late
to start one this year, so I'm looking for some information in starting and 
registering a team for next year.

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: ematias@csri.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Subject: Re: Short players
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:25:04 GMT

In article <5037@news.duke.edu> lees@acpub.duke.edu (Steve Lee) writes:
>I have a friend that I've been trying to convince to try volleyball.
>The problem is that he is less than the ideal height and doesn't want to
>just set and bump all the time.  
>So what I want to know is how many of you out there are 5'6" or under
>and can still put the ball down?

   I'm between 5'7" and 5'8", and only have a half-decent vertical (I can
probably get the top of my head over the top of the net), but that's
sufficient for me to CRANK on a nice tight set and hit comfortably on a
bad set.  Furthermore I've got some friends who are smaller than me and
can dunk a basketball, so physical height isn't necessarily the most
important issue.
   A lot of it depends on technique as well -- technique which shorter
players usually master more effectively (IMHO) because they have no other
choice!  A lot of my taller friends have bent arm-swings and spike the
ball at their ear level, while I have had to learn to extend my arm up
fully in order to connect with the ball at a decent height.

   Face it, Steve; we all know what an exciting and addicting game v-ball
can be, no matter which aspect of it we're dealing with.  I'm sure that
your friend will find ways to work around any physical "shortcomings" he
may encounter.  (pun intended :-)

     - Mark Rosteck -
(g1marker@cdf.toronto.edu)


Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: yoon@meaddata.com (Yoonho Ha)
Subject: Re: NEXT AVP Tourney attendees - help needed
Keywords: need 2 AVP hats
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:09:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.004239.10093@ctr.columbia.edu>, newman@grind.cheme.cmu.edu (Ryan Newman) writes:
|> I went to the Milwaukee AVP Open, and got myself one of the great AVP
|> hats.  Now I thought I would be going to Cleveland the next weekend and
|> be able to buy more hats.  But that didn't work out.  Could someone who
|> is going to the tourney anytime in what remains of the season get me 2
|> hats?  Anyone who can do this, please mail me - the hat I have is all
|> grimey from playing out in the sand and I can't wear it around.
|> 
|> Advertise your support of AVP - wear their hat!
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 
|> -Ry
|>  
|> 
|> 

What are the exact dates for that AVP tourney in Cleveland?  And does
anyone know how to get directions to go see it?


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu (Bruno Wolff III)
Subject: Re: Volleyball Rule Question
Originator: bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:24:47 GMT

From article <BtpDoo.D4C@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, by zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Zell):
> rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff) writes:
> 
> Just to expand this a little, what about setting a serve? I know that in 
> the Olympics, World League, etc, they can't set the serve, but I've talked to 
> people in high school, park leagues, etc, who insist you can.  At what level
> does setting the serve become illegal?
> Joe

What you state is incorrect. The only place that I have ever seen it illegal
to set a serve is in low level volleyball. This is generally done because
the people reffing aren't able to tell the difference between good sets and
bad sets.
The usvba rule book specificly states that it is LEGAL to set the serve. It
also goes on to point out this is often very difficult to do. I wouldn't
recommend doing this, because mediocre refs will make an automatic double
hit (which won't be legal since you are using your fingers) whether there
was one or not.
I could see this happening on an attempted short serve the got up a bit.
In that case the serve would be as easy to set as many passes.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: margi@indigo.asd.sgi.com (Margie Levine)
Subject: Bay Area VBall Mailing List
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:57:57 GMT


This message announces the creation of an electronic mail distribution
list for San Francisco Bay Area volleyball related news items.  The
address of the distribution list is:

        ba-volleyball@klerk.cup.hp.com

The purpose of this list is to publish announcements about volleyball

    - classes and clinics
    - tournaments
    - leagues
    - open gyms
    - pick up games
    - players wanted/available
    - professional and collegiate event schedules and results

The list is unmoderated.  However, in order to avoid inundating
people's mailboxes, use of this distribution list for discussions
about rules, equipment, techniques, etc. is discouraged.  The Usenet
news group rec.sport.volleyball is available for discussions and
questions of general interest.  (If you must send a question to this
distribution list, ask for responses to be sent directly to you and
post a summary later.)

If you would like to be added to the distribution list, just send a
message to:

      ba-volleyball-request@klerk.cup.hp.com

Please include your first and last name somewhere in the message.

Please forward this announcement to other volleyball players you know
in the San Francisco Bay Area.

Regards,
Daryl Odnert           daryl@cup.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard
Cupertino, California


Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: geoff@flash.bellcore.com (Geoffrey Clemm)
Subject: Re: Volleyball Rule Question
Organization: Bellcore
	<GEOFF.92Aug28133240@wodehouse.flash.bellcore.com>
	<1992Aug31.153154.17755@ll.mit.edu>
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:57:31

In article <1992Aug31.153154.17755@ll.mit.edu> serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli) writes:
   Just out of curiosity, how many times (as a referee) have you seen someone
   set a ball on serve receive and not called it?

212 (I'm not sure what that number will do for you, but there it is :-).

   I am sure you know that if you go to Nationals and let a team set a serve,
   everyone in the Gym will probably give you lots of crap

(which they probably will do in any case :-)

   (not to mention the players themselves).

That's what yellow cards are for (:-).

The bottom line is, if refs calls you for setting a serve "because you
cannot set a serve", they don't know what they are doing.  If they call
you for setting a serve because you lifted or double hit the ball, then
that's a judgement call that is completely up to the refs.

Cheers,

Geoff
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: geoff@flash.bellcore.com (Geoffrey Clemm)
Subject: Re: Court Dimensions?
Organization: Bellcore
	<geddis.715379389@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:22:45

In article <geddis.715379389@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> geddis@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Don Geddis) writes:

   robp@landru.network.com (Rob Peglar) writes:
   >Men - 2.43 meters , or 7'11 5/8"
   >Women - 2.24 meters, or 7'4 1/4"

   OK, now _why_ are such bizarre numbers like that the official heights?
   Maybe it's just me, but these aren't the first numbers I'd come up with
   if I were standardizing net height.  Does this make sense to anyone?

The basic answer is that since volleyball was invented in the US, 
the measurements were originally in inches (96" men, 88" women).
When volleyball was "internationalized", these heights were converted
to metric equivalents.

This doesn't answer the question of why the men's height is rounded down,
while the women's height is rounded up.

It would make sense to round both of them down, since then 8' and 7'4"
would both be legal heights (the net height can be up to 2cm above the
regulation height).  As it is, 7'4" is illegal for women (0.25" too low).

It would also make sense to round the men's height up, since 2.44 metres
is closer to 8' than is 2.43 metres.

But noooo, they round up the women's height and round down the men's.

If anyone can explain this apparently brain dead (albeit irrelevant)
decision, I'd be interested.

Cheers,

Geoff

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From: lees@acpub.duke.edu (Steve Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: hitting past blocks
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:54:59 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


I've been playing volleyball - real volleyball - for little under a year
and I've just gotten to the point where I can pretty consistently hit
the ball down.  The problem is that although I can put the ball down
hard, I also get blocked hard a lot of times.  I'll admit that I don't
look for the blocks - I'm too concerned with keeping my eye on the ball
and crushing it.  I'm just wondering, will I naturally get to the point
where I don't have to keep my eye on the ball to connect so I can look
for the block or are you supposed to try to read the block before you
take off?  

Also, although I have decent hang time and get up fairly high, I have a
hard time blocking.  Any pointers?  Everything happens so fast.

Thanx


-CRUSH

 
'
From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Spiking
Date: 2 Sep 1992 16:53:36 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: rec.sport.volleyball
NNTP-Posting-Host: grendle.think.com

In article <1992Sep2.153209.9451@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, ckeller@denali.gsfc.nasa.gov (Christopher Keller) writes:
|> Hello all-
|>    Have a question for any spikers out there.  About 90% of the time,
|> I spike the ball out of bounds (via the back court).  Does anyone have
|> any tips on spiking the ball hard and short?
|> 
|> -- 

Without getting too technical I would reccomend the following:

     - Keep the ball in front of you when you jump, not directly
       over your head.  If you start your approach before you SEE
       where the trajectory of the ball will take it, you may
       over-run the ball and be too far underneath it.  Resulting
       in an ICBM.
 
     - Snap your wrist when you contact the ball.

     - Follow through.

This should bring the ball down without worrying about things like 
topspin, etc. 

 
Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge MA. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Tomfool)
Subject: Re: What's LIVE volleyball?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:16:06 GMT

lees@acpub.duke.edu (Steve Lee) writes:


>What!!  No spiking and no out of bounds?  I've never heard of this but,
>from what you've said, this sound's like jungle ball heaven.  My advice?
>Don't worry about it.

Nah, the term jungle ball is used to describe vb where lifts (usually
with both hands open, palms upward, not at all joined) and catch-and-
throw spikes are the rule, rather than the (illegal) exception.

If the net's too high to spike, this LIVE volleyball could be an
endurance contest.  Two teams playing the ball back and forth with
passes, until a player misses a pass due to exhaustion.

Tom
From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Volleyball Rule Question
Date: 27 Aug 1992 23:17:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: crashnburn

In article <1992Aug27.220940.22337@unislc.uucp> mdq@unislc.uucp (Michael Quinn) writes:
Could anyone tell me if you the receiving team is allowed to have a
double hit on the serve.  If you try to bump the serve and then the ball
bounces off another part of your body.  Is this allowed or NOT.  Also what
is the rule on blocking the serve.


/*************************/

Mike,

According to the last issue of the USVBA rules, a double hit is allowed on
the first team hit on any ball crossing the net (not just the serve) as
long as no finger action was involved.

You can't return the ball back to the serving court until it has dropped
below the plane of the top of the net.

Rick
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Zell)
Subject: Re: Volleyball Rule Question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:43:40 GMT

robp@landru.network.com (Rob Peglar) writes:


>It certainly is legal to set (i.e. play the ball above your head with your {open}
>hands, imparting finger action) the serve.

>It just is real hard to do ... without mangling the ball.  About the only time you want
>to do this is when a real lollipop _short_ serve comes over;  and even then, you're
>better off passing it.

>The comment below about the Olympics and the WL are wrong.  Nobody sets the serve
>at this level because it's such a bad play.

Well, thanks to both people who responded.  I have always been told it is 
illegal.  I guess this is why we have this group here. :)
Joe



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: jsy@Aig.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jennifer Yu)
Subject: Re: Volleyball Rule Question
Organization: NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:07:56 GMT

|>... and if a
|> serve is above your waist, its either out or someone elses ball. 
|> Rick
|> 

That's not always true - I'm short and if it's above my waist the serve
can still be good.  I'd have to be out of position for your condition
to hold all the time.  Maybe I'm just bitter because I'm not tall... :)~

Jennifer
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Short players
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:42:40 GMT

In article 20318@galileo.cc.rochester.edu, mwsn_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Weasner) writes:
>|In article <5037@news.duke.edu> lees@acpub.duke.edu (Steve Lee) writes:
>|>I have a friend that I've been trying to convince to try volleyball.
>|>The problem is that he is less than the ideal height and doesn't want to
>|>just set and bump all the time.  
>|>So what I want to know is how many of you out there are 5'6" or under
>|>and can still put the ball down?
>|>
>|>Just curious.
>|>
>|>And what kinda vertical do you have to have to be able to spike when
>|>your that tall?
>|>
>|Although I hate to admit it, I am indeed short as hell. 5'6". But I can 
>|indeed put a ball DOWN. Indoors is the best terrain for me to be able to do
>|it, but I can kill on the beach too usually. It took me a while, but I can. 
>|The last time I checked, my vert was about 26". You have to have good mechanics
>|ie, good footwork, armswing and all that good stuff. You can't just be sloppy 
>|like all you 6'7" middle hitters out there. :-) And still not hit the back wall
>|that is. Tell your friend that it is indeed possible for little munchkins to 
>|hit a ball. Practice, practice, practice! Shit, I've seen people a lot 
>|shorter than me, hit ten meter line. Booming the ball too!!!! Omigod! Look at
>|that little man swing!  :-)  
>|
>|my two cents.
>|outty like saudi...
>|matt.


Matt, Iam about 5'7" and I can hit OK, but not great.  My vertical is around 21"
to 23" depending on the day.  What kind of drills do you do to improve your hitting?


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From: erdmans@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Check your gravity at the door.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: QUESTION where are vball gifs????
Date: 25 Aug 92 10:26:17 EST

VOLLEY.GIF was great!

Does anyone know of an ftp site that has a bunch of these????

Thank you for your help.

Scott
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