HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
>   Is it possible to chage the file attributes through the shell?  That is,
>   can you change the read/write protection, etc., without having to use
>   the workbench "info" utility?
[stuff deleted]
>   keith@caltech.edu

Sure.  Try using the "protect" command through the CLI to specify
which bits you wish to set/delete.  For example,

	protect +rwed blah

would activate the read, write, execute, and delete bits for its
protection, whereas  

	protect -rwed foo

would delete the same switches from foo. 

I'm just about sure you can use the command with wildcards like '#?',
so a command like

	protect +s #?.script

should set the script bit for all files ending in ".script".

Hope that helps.

             akiy@cs.titech.ac.jp[]Amiga/Mac/IBM/NeXT/NEC/Unix-box User   
 UCLA undergrad (studying abroad)[]
    Tokyo Institute of Technology[]"Speech is of Time, Silence is of Eternity."
      Natural Language Processing[]     ---Thomas Carlyle, _Sartor Resartus_
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: I found a pirate - what shall I do?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 12:48:07 GMT

In article <Bx9n9K.943@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, shulick@yankton.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
 > In article <1992Nov5.201345.5803@bnr.ca> hello@bnr.ca (Ken Orford) writes:
 > >This is one of the most asinine responses I've seen since M.B. posted
 > >last!  Either you're incredibly stupid Sam or you're simply a jerk!
 > >Piracy is wrong no matter how you cut it - and if ya ain't one of the
 > >good guys then you must be a bad guy.  Get a life and stop jerking
 > >around people who are on the right side of the fence.
 > 
 > Oh, come on, now.  What a weak argument, Ken, really.  Either I'm stupid
 > or a jerk?  No, try I'm realistic.  And "piracy is wrong" is about as
 > weak and diluted as "say no to drugs."  And no, I'm not a good guy, and
 > no, I'm not a bad guy.  I try to be un-biased.
 > 
 > Let's talk about realism.  Do you realize how many pirates exist in the
 > world?  Yes, QUITE a few.  Astonishing amounts.  Look, I hate to say it,
 > but turning one in won't do a lot of good.  You could turn one in, but
 > maybe somewhere in the world, someone will say "I want a copy of that
 > game" and become a pirate.  -1, +1.  They sorta cancel out.  Now maybe
 > the answer to anti-piracy is stricter punishment.  Heavy copy protection
 > is out of the question, since the majority of the computer users despise
 > heavy copy protection.  I don't have the answers.  I just know that
 > turning in these people isn't going to solve anything.  Thus my earlier
 > statement: It will only hurt the pirate, and it won't help anyone.

Uhh...  So you're saying that punishment is useless, because you're huring someone
for no reason?  How about crime in general - do you feel that thieves (in the more
mainstream sense), murderers et al should not be imprisoned (or even killed in 
certain countries), simply because there are a lot of them, and the number is
growing?  I'd say that there are probably fewer pirates than there are pickpockets
and burglars, for instance...

Think about it, and you'll come to your senses :)

-Eyvind

 > -- 
 > Sam Hulick          | "You can't discover new oceans unless you have the
 > shulick@indiana.edu | courage to lose sight of the shore."  --Anon.
 > (NeXTmail welcome)  |

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From: unseen@mcl.ucsb.edu (Roger Wilco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Looking for writer of VFONT: Michael Jansson.
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:33:35 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc

Does anyone know an e-mail or snail-mail address for Michael Jansson? He
is a programmer who wrote the Shareware VFont, a scalable font editor.

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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA products?
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:05:22 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov6.194419.1730@cranel.com> watters@cranel.com (David Watters) writes:
> In article <1992Nov3.073754.16240@ulrik.uio.no> jawil@hpx13.aid.no (Jan Roger Wilkens) writes:
> 
> >Is it possible to use a 3.5" HD with the A1200? Offcourse it wouldn't fit
> >inside, but would it be possible to extend the cables and put the HD in a box
> >outside the machine?
> 
> There is no external HD port???
> 
> Even are silly 386 in a keyboard machines that the sales staff uses have
> external drive ports (as well as the oh so popular internal 2.5" IDE..bleah!)

I'm not aware of any clones with an "external" IDE expansion port.  In the
case of the A600/A1200 it simply wasn't practical to extend the IDE port to
a connector and the logicstics of finding compatible masters/slave drives
between 2.5" and 3.5" drives are questionable.

If we had put a 3.5" drive in the case, it would have ended up at least as
large in all dimensions as the A500 case, which isn't desirable in an n-th
generation "console" system.  Also there are power and cooling requirements
for 3.5" drives that would cause problems.

These kind of things are the standard kind of design tradeoffs that anyone
in engineering has to work with.  How big, how many, where to stop and how
much $$$ for which features.  If you guess wrong one way, the product ends
up to expensive to sell in its intended market slot, the other way and you
may omit some feature that turns out to be critical and have to try again.

In the case of the internal IDE drive, readily available 2.5" drives (in OEM
terms at least) span the range of 20-80 M-bytes, with 120 M-byte  on the
horizon and 250+ M-byte being demonstrated at shows, it would seem that there
is plenty of room for growth.

The other escape would be in the A4000 direction, where there is space and
power available to support larger IDE drives or a SCSI controller for
internal or external drives of rather larger capacity.  Of course you pay
for these kind of open-ended expansion provisions.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: ZIP!?!?
Keywords: Looking for CLI/Shell version of ZIP
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 02:20:41 GMT

alf@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Anthony Fiarito) writes:

> Does anyone know if the ZIP archiver (Not PKAZip!!) exists for the Amiga?
> One that can be used in the CLI/Shell?  Thanks in advance for any info!!
> 
 
I *think* I have an un-ZIP program buried somewhere on a floppy that I 
received from the guy I bought my 500 from; I've only really used PKAZip 
for when I have stuff to unload onto a DOS-based system (ick, I know...)
 
I'll do some digging...now, which one of these shoe-boxes around here has 
that particular, unlabeled disk...  :I
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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Looking for a few good mice
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:17:57 GMT

In article <40793@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jfriesne@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner!)
writes:

>Can anyone recommend a high-quality three button and/or
>optical mouse for the Amiga?  I'd like to have one with
>at least one of the above features, preferable both but
>I haven't heard of any three button optical mice.

You may also want to consider the option of using DigiPrint's IBM Bus Mouse
Adaptor with a PC mouse. For an extra $9.95, you have quite a selection
to choose from. Incidentally, DigiPrint also has IBM PC analog joystick
adaptors for the same price.

DigiPrint
P.O. Box 13016
Richmond, VA 23225
(804) 560-1769

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jfieber@sophia.smith.edu (John Fieber)
Subject: Re: Another Amiga Sighted On TV!
Organization: Smith College
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:04:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.224745.480@cc.gatech.edu> kennethm@cc.gatech.edu (Kenneth Moorman) writes:
>>: Speaking of Amiga sightings in T.V. ads, has anyone else noticed that
>>: the geeky kid in the Encyclopedia Brittanica ads has an A2000 on his
>>In some of the ads he has a 2000, in others he has some sort of pc-clone.
>Yet another Amiga sighting --- I watched StepFather III last night. 

The "office" scenes in the move "Truly, Madly, Deeply" feature an
Amiga 2000. 

-john
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WordWorth 2
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:49:48 GMT
 <1992Nov3.160203.19421@city.cs><1992Nov6.055826.17076@leland.Stanford.EDU><1992Nov6.144855.9761@city.cs> <13468@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: efp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk's message of 10 Nov 92 20:09:30 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Nov 92 20:09:30 GMT, efp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Pritchard EF) said:

> In <1992Nov6.144855.9761@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:

>>In article <1992Nov6.055826.17076@leland.Stanford.EDU> alexm@leland.Stanford.EDU (alex matthews) writes:

>>>>WordWorth2.0 is reportedly out now or rsn. It can read and write 
>>>>WP format files.
>>>
>>>No kidding?  I don't suppose it can read/write WP5.1 files?  I've 
>>>never heard of WordWorth, is it available in the U.S.?

>>No kidding. Yes. Yes.

> I saw a demonstration of Wordsworth 2 at the Future Entertainment Show
> (UK) and very (VERY) impressive it was too. Much enhanced HIP
> Hotlinks, really super Agfa font machinery. Get it!!!!

There is a demo on the latest Amiga Format, too. Nice. I'd rather use
Interleaf on my Sparcstation2 at work though...

(Seriously, is there any Amiga WP where I can say "chapter headings are
16pt Times bold with underlining and autonumbered", and save that in a
template, and later change the template and have all my headings change
format. From the demo, "copy and paste format" is the closest Wordsworth 2
has. I do know about TeX).
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Shape Data - A division of EDS-Scicon Limited.   Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
   "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
From: cbenson@cs.strath.ac.uk (Calum F Benson CS90)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WordWorth 2
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:43:52 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <1992Nov12.014518.15556@ra.msstate.edu> jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:
>
>  Final Copy II lets you create style sheets and save them, but I think
>this word processor is only available in the US and Canada. It has sizable
>fonts. JimP. 
>

It's available in the UK too, with a real British English spell-checker and
thesaurus. 

Calum


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: breese@monet.imada.ou.dk (Bjoern Reese)
Subject: Re: Apples and Oranges
Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:17:59 GMT

In article <1dvefjINN4ro@ub.d.umn.edu> rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)  
writes:
[a list of similarities between apples and oranges]

Do you want to know the difference? Try eating an orange after
having brushed your teeth...

> Sorry, I just coulnd pass this oportunity up. :-)

Me neither :)
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Odense University, Denmark     |     Voice: +45 65 932 182 (private)
From: angst+@CMU.EDU (Jon C. Slenk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Random musings
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:46:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Qf0xjYm00WDNQPCLY9
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In general, I find that the Amiga has a lot of potential, but that it
isn't a polished machine. For example, the OS is way better than a Mac,
yet it still isn't fully up to basic UNIX functionality (see the
discussion about debugging on .programmer, etc.). Also, it seems like the
user interface hasn't received enough attention (my favorite is how in 1.3
and 2.0 (well, early versions at least - I haven't used any new new
versions) a window can't be off the screen.).

If you were to present an Amiga and a Mac to some potential buyer,
he/she/it is likely to say, "Gee.  The Amiga has some interesting
programs, but it looks like a computer (in the PC / blinking lights in
movies sense) - the interface isn't consistent and so is pretty confusing.
The Mac is consistent. I like that. Who cares about the OS not really
multitasking?"

My point isn't that Commodore has done the wrong thing all along, only
that I think they should move in new directions now that they have kul
stuff in place. Make the user interface better (ie: get a real toolkit so
that everyone can have a standard interface, rather than having a
different interface for every program!) & make the OS complete: polish the
machine until it positively gleams.

Why hasn't Commodore added real memory protection to the Amiga? Also, why
haven't they added virtual memory (or at least marketed an "extension" or
whatever to do it)? I know of at least one company selling a virtual
memory program - perhaps Commodore could liscence it?

Q: What is the deal with the AGA stuff? Is this chipset a "low end" AGA,
ie: are there going to be better chipsets on the way RSN? To be honest, I
am not all that impressed with the new chipset - you can have full 32 bit
color on a Mac pretty easily. The Amiga has a problem in that the
functionality is hardwired in. I wish the chipsets were designed in such a
way as to work with any bit depth up to full 32 (well, 24 really I guess)
bit color.

Q: Can anyone make some comments on graphics boards for the Amiga? There
are some nice systems, from what I can get out of the advertisements, but
no really interesting specs. For example, on a Mac you can have multiple
monitors no problem. You can't do this easily on an Amiga as far as I know
- can you maybe buy a kul video card and have it drive one (or more)
monitors while your standard chipset in your Amiga drive another?

Sincerely,
-Jon.

----------------------------------------------------
Jon Slenk           angst+@cmu.edu     EVERYTHING is
Carnegie Mellon     Pittsburgh PA      Disclaimed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Sharing HP Deskjet with PC
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:27:53 GMT

In article <BxCsJp.K8x@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umward10@news.cc.umanitoba.ca
(Derek Ward) writes:

>  I am going to be getting a PC with a Deskjet printer (part of a
>package), and would to know if there is anyway I can hook my Amiga 500 up
>to it WHILE the IBM is hooked up as well.  
>  Do I need special software/hardware, or is there such thing as a
>"splitter" which will have Amiga/IBM -=> Deskjet.

All you need is an A/B switch for the standard parallel port and an
additional cable. You should be able to find the A/B switch at a computer
supply outlet (Radio Shack) for ~$25.
From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Amiga core-dump? *sigh*
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:43:12 GMT
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 12 Nov 92 02:57:42 GMT

>>>>> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) said:

Sam> Just a question.. why don't Amigas coredump like UNIX?  Why do they
Sam> instead crash messily and reset?  Basically, I'm asking.. what allows a
Sam> UNIX to coredump, and relativeily, what does Amiga LACK that won't let
Sam> it coredump w/o crashing?

Memory Protection. In Unix the system's memory management unit protects
processes from trashing each others memory, etc. So even though one
program might crash it is pretty much guaranteed that it will not hose
any other processes (esp. those that are started as part of the OS!) and
thus it is still safe/possible to allow the other processes on the
system to continue. The Amiga's OS does not do this and there are a
number of reasons that it does not. (One of which is that the base
models' 68000 processor does not have an MMU!)

Whether adding MP is feasible or worthwhile is a frequent topic of
debate in some of the Amiga newsgroups.

You can get limited memory protection if you have an Amiga with an MMU
by using the 'enforcer' program which protects certain memory locations
which are guaranteed to be illegal to access. This is especially useful
for program development and the 'enforcer' program is freely available
via ftp.
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This ASEXUAL PIG really BOILS my BLOOD...  He's so..so.....URGENT!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott)
Subject: Re: The Death of the Juggler
Summary: Juggler II: Jugglement Day 
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 06:43:28 GMT

In article <jbono.0840@tension.UUCP> jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:
>In article <BxICHF.HzH@fc.hp.com>, koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren) writes:
>>Steve Koren (koren@fc.hp.com) wrote:
>>> The Juggler has died; long live the juggler!
> 
>What we really need is a new juggler, in 24-bit.  When 16-bit audio comes out,
>the juggler should be able to speak that as well.  The juggler may be dead, but
>let's have the mad scientists work on Juggler, Jr.  Any takers?

It'd be pointless to just make a new animation of a guy juggling in 24 bits.
The original Juggler looked fine.  What we need is something technically
impressive.

For example, using something like the Cycleman object in Imagine, make a
juggler animation with a near-photorealistic person juggling various
objects, such as a monitor running live video (the sound from which can
switch back and forth in the stereo 'picture'), various objects morphing in
midair (not just the 2-D morphs of, say, Imagemaster or Morph+, though they
could be included too), some funky stuff going on in the background, and
some interesting camera movements to round it off.  It's not inconceivable
that you could get this to run in 768x480 HAM-8 on a 4000, especially if you
loaded the uncompressed frames off a SCSI HD.

Given the tools I have available to me, I could do this myself if I had the
talent.  (experience, yes, talent, no...)  Too bad Newtek is so focused on
the outdated technology of the Toaster to release another of those nifty
Demo Reels for AGA.  It was the Newtek Demo #1 that made my eyes drool at a
computer for the first time... (I'd been working with various kinds of
machines for 7 years but I'd never thought of them as visually stunning)

.                            <<<<Infinite K>>>>

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mark@mozart.demon.co.uk (Mark Whalley)
Subject: TV test patterns
Distribution: world
Organization: Telecoms Software Engineer
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:12:40 +0000

Does an Amiga program exist that will display standard TV test patterns for 
use when servicing TVs.

Please reply to mark@mozart.demon.co.uk as I do not read this conference.

Thanks for your time..

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From: tope@imdpy1.im.se (Torbj|rn Pettersson IMPU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: I found a pirate - what shall I do?
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:20:07 GMT
	<1992NOV5.115549.10113@DOUG.CAE.WISC.EDU>
	<1992Nov6.121058@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be>
Organization: Industri-Matematik Data AB, Sweden


 What's the fuzz about? The guy is selling pirated software. 
Nuke him out of this solar system. There is simply no justification
for this sort of behavior, the man is stealing other peoples work
and calling it his own. 
 The only sort of piracy I think is open to debate is if it is morally
right or wrong to copy some games from a friend or not.
(Maybe because I done so myself a couple of times... No one is perfect.)

Only my 0.02 SEK worht

Signing off
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From: unseen@mcl.ucsb.edu (Roger Wilco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: FONT CONVERTER!!!!!
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:51:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.unseen.721291911
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc


I am looking for any programs for converting any kind of font to the
Compugraphic scalable fonts used by ProPage. The FontManager program
with ProPage is WAAAAYYY too picky about what fonts it will accept, and
quite flakey, too.
	ProPage is also fairly picky about what CG fonts it will use. If
the format is not JUST right (too old, or whatever), it will simply draw
a box rather than the character you typed.

	So I need a converter to convert any type of font to the CG font
format used by ProPage. source fonts could be CG, PostScript, Mac Adobe,
IBM Adobe, AmigaDOS2.0 Intellifonts, WHATEVER!!!! I'm just sick of not
having more than a few scalable fonts to use.

	Does anyone know of some good PD or commercial converters? Anyone
	want to write some?  :)