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From: derf@ravel.udel.edu (the Greatful Fred)
Subject: reality gem (spoiler from IW4)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:10:19 GMT

	As mentioned above, this is a spoiler of sorts, and I am not 
	 sure if the ^L will work...

	 


	 As per Infinity War 4, when Adam recreates the Infinity Gauntlet,
	  he has possesion already of the Reality Gem when he asks for
	  the other Gems from Gamora, Pip, Drax and Moondragon.
	 Thanos's reaction is along the lines of

	 You already have the Reality Gem... Interesting...

	 Also, from the issue, I would guess that the Watcher, Eternity
	 and the Living Tribunal are out of the running.


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From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Weapon Omega
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:42:25 GMT
	<1992Jul28.060556.22750@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia


>>>>>> In article <1992Jul28.060556.22750@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>
>>>>>> scostain@esk (Sean Edward Costain) writes: 

: Well, Weapon Omega is (was) known as Wild Child. He was a true nutcase who
: trained with Wolverine, this can be seen in a Marvel Comics Presents comic
: around issue 50. Wild child was never able to control his bezerker rage
: so the government sanctioned him.

WildChild was originally part of Beta or Gamma Flight, can't remember
which. He was similar to Wolverine then and I would tend to think that
John Byrne, who debuted him in Alpha Flight #1, might have had some
other plans for him relating to this fact. Of course he Byrne got
bored, like on everything else he's done, and left AF. It's good to
here that someone's picked up on this and is doing something with it.

	- Robi
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator)
Subject: Re: Marvel Continuity
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:40:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.135712.11188@anasazi.com> rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:
>
>With the recent talk about Magneto and Professor X's ages, I was reminded of
>reading somewhere that because of the 'unique' timeline that Marvel follows
>in its universe, someday changes to origins of its characters backgrounds
>will need to be changed. 

To my knowledge, the only comic to address this henious problem was The 
Punisher, where, in the lettercol, they announced the Unofficial Official
Marvel Stand on Character Aging.  To wit, they don't.  No reason to really
change this.  After all, it's a Gerschpringinit comic book!  People come
back from the dead almost as often as they die!  You sorta check reality at
the door, if you know what I mean.  I am a regular reader of Green Arrow, the
only book I read where the character "ages" along with the rest of us.  And
the point is that in a very short while, he'll be too old to do the kind of 
stuff it takes to be a superdude.  Sure it's great reading, this realism in
the midst of the malestrom of fantasy, but when I plop down my money, I
don't want to hear about someone falling out of prime, and I'm sure you
don't either.  If you do, send me $1.25 every month, and I'll tell you 
about myself, my family, hell, even the president!  And I draw pretty good
too.
	So the point is, if you're looking for characters to grow up and 
act their age, they won't.  Look at soap operas.  They do basically the same
thing:  age on demand.  Know this handy rule of thumb, though.  Every time
Peter Parker has a birthday, the marvel universe ages a year.  This
is roughly once every three years our time, and hey, it works out pretty
well.
-- 
Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Everything But Love tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"Oh God, does this mean we have to fight?"
			-Selina Kyle, _Batman_
From: loewenst@cs.rutgers.edu (David Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:03:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Whippany, NJ
In-reply-to: danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu's message of 21 Jul 92 23:25:07 GMT

} Marvel
} Magneto: I know that the reason he wants mutants to rule the world
}    was the result of his experiences in the Holocaust and that 
}    Professor X met him in Israel. However, has Marvel ever said that
}    he was Jewish? His kids, Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch, aren't
}    Jewish unless their mother is. (Anyone know?)

I don't think Q & SW's mother's identity has been established.  I
don't believe Magneto's Jewishness has been established concretely.

Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat is well-established as Jewish, although not very
observant. Prof. X may or may not be Jewish for pretty much the same
reasons as Magneto.  Marvel also has an Israeli superbeing called
"Sabra" -- she's not a "hero" precisely, but certainly fits at least
as well as Magneto. 

In DC, the Ragman has been retconned into a character who is not
merely Jewish, but whose powers are derived from Kabbalistic magic.  
He may be the only Jewish character with his own big-two comic book.

} Mark VII Comics 
} Shaloman: Whenever the cry of "Oy Vey" is heard, a rock shaped as a
}    shin becomes Shaloman! A pretty good comic drawn in Golden Age
}    style. It's like a comic filled with Mel Brooks inside Jewish
}    jokes.

Eh.  Am I alone in parsing the name of this character as "shallow-man"?
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWAY!
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:17:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvra.143570002
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

I'm afraid I must second your opinion of "Cool World" with a:

   DREK ALERT!!!

Gak!

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:23:40 GMT

Tom Galloway (tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu) writes:

>Curiously enough, it appears that Peter David is responsible for about
>half of the explicitly Jewish characters in comics. Wonder if Atlantis
>will turn out to be the lost tribe? :-)

Some people complain that openly gay/Lesbian/etc. writers and artists in
comics would cause an increase in the number of such characters (so long as
they were well written, would that be bad?).

Heaven help the day that we get openly female comics creators.  B-)

------------------------------
                             |    "Ron!" I said.  "What are you doing here?"
Jim Drew                     |    "This is the afterlife, Marc," he said.
jrd@frame.com                | "I'm dead, remember?  I'm just waiting for Val
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | to show up, and catching some great music in
"Innocent, but not naive."   | the meantime.  Peter, Paul, and Patsy are
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    | next."  He pointed out a concert poster.
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  |      "Bill Graham productions presents... Peter
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | Tschaikovsky and Paul McCartney, with special
			     | guest Patsy Cline!"
			     |		- Marc Lynx, "A Conventional Death"
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator)
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:33:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.023932.25262@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>     Magnus is Jewish, and he and his family were murdered at a death camp.  
>Magneto's powers had surfaced that morning, so he could deflect the bullets 
>aimed at min, but not his family.  The strain of deflecting the bullets knocked
>him out and he awoke buried in a mass grave.  It's a wonder he's still sane, to
>quote the Sherriff of Nottingham.

I seem to recall in a backup story in either U-Xmen or an annual, a powerful
tale with few if any words contained.  Magnus is living in a town, apparently
without Magda (Probably thinking she's dead).  He has a daughter, and is 
working doing menial tasks.  However, he is an undesirable, and one day, 
he arrives home to find his house aflame, and a crowd of people surrounding
the house, few with sorrow in their eyes.  Just then, he hears his daughter
crying out in pain, and goes to help her, but is forcibly restrained by the
villagers.  She appears in a second story window, on fire, and jumps to
the ground, dying even before she makes hit.  Magnus is so enraged that his
powers manifest for the second time (the first time scared off Magda), and
he wipes out every person in the town.  Being a great fan of Magneto, and
seeing him embrace the corpse of his child, I could only mutter, "WOWOWOWOWOW."
Does anyone else remember this, or when it appeared?
-- 
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"Oh God, does this mean we have to fight?"
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Oh, COME OFF IT! Re: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWAY!
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:29:45 GMT

sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
> This is a public service announcement to all you comic fans.
> I wish to prevent a tragedy from happening to you.  This is 
> my sad story. Yesterday, My friend dragged me to a matinee' 
> and it was one of the worst cinematic experiences in my life.
> The so-called film is "Cool World."  I had heard it wasn't a 
> good film, from someone I didn't really trust, and so I really
> didn't pay much attention to the warning signs.  I saw on the 
> back of comics advertisements for this debotchery of sight and
> sound, but had no idea how horrific it really could be.  Well,
> I survived, but barely.  DON'T GO SEE IT!  WHAT A WASTE!  I sat
> through the entire film saying, "It's just slow, it'll get 
> better." Survey Says "BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!!!"  To put it 
> mildly, I felt betrayed, appalled and used.  How can they make
> such filth and garbage and pass it off as film?  I am posting
> this here to help quelch anyone's curiosity about it.  They
> try to drag in the comic fans, don't heed the siryn's call!

Survey says "BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!" on this post....
The assumption that the film was aimed purely at comics fans purely
because it was advertised on the backs of comics is ludicrous.  If
that's true, then Single White Female, Cape Fear, Nightbreed, etc.
were all aimed at comics fans.  Likewise with the U2 album Achtung
Baby.  all were advertised on the backs of comics, and therefore theyy
must be aimed at comics fans!   Right?
  You could make a case that the animation side of things cwould draw
in comics fans, but I still don't buy it.  The only similarity between
the two mediums is that they both tell a story through drawings.  If
that's true, then illustrated books and children's literature must
also apply....

> Perhaps there are other victims out there who will come out 
> and help substantiate my case, but I am pleading to you don't 
> see it, It's not worth even going to it at a dollar theatre.
> Don't rent it.  Yech!  

In point of fact, it isn't THAT bad, IMHO.  It's nice to see Bakshi in
action again, and the animation is wonderful.  The soundtrack is high
energy, and Kim Basinger provides a great cartoon voice.  I'm not
saying this is the best film in the world, it does have its problems
(mainly in the area of script and editing).  But I had a good time in
the film.  THere's alot of humor satire in the animation which is far
and above other animation satire projects.  The rabbit sequence, the
sexualtiy issue, and finally the last 10 minutes with the superhero
sequence is wonderful.

> This has been a public service announcement...
> 			 by
> 				wReam...
> 

This has been a clarification of a public serviec announcement....
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:16:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul22.023932.25262@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>     Let us not forget Sabra!  Marvel's first Israeli superhero, introed in 
>Contest of Champions, and recently seen in Hulk.

Just to be picky, Sabra was introduced in the Hulk before Contest of
Champions, and was not one of the new heroes introduced for the sole
purpose of giving various nations (Ireland, Germany, Australia, China, etc.)
their own super-heroes.  She was used in CoC because they were using
mostly heroes from various nations, for no particular reason.
From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Richard Barry Shrum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DC--Crisis Inconsistencies
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:43:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.



Is there a graphic-novel-type book which contains the Crisis all in
1 volume? I never read it, and it sounds easier (and less expensive)
than trying to collect the entire series on a seperate basis. How many
issues did the Crisis take place in?> Was it a cross-over too?
Thanks in advance for all responses


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From: harry@dnlunx (Harry Fluks)
Subject: Re: DUCKS : D. Duck Adv #29 Cover
Reply-To: H.W.Fluks@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:57:35 GMT

u6409886@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:

> Did anyone else notice the great cover on Donald Duck Adventures #29 ?
>I thought it was the best cover Disney have done. It was also nice to
>have a colour edition of "In Deepest Africa" too. In the credits I notice
You mean "Darkest Africa"?
>"nifty cover design and layout by ..." which I liked. 

> For Barks fans: Notice that this story was subsequently reworked into
>Forbidden Valley (reprinted by Gladstone in # Donald Duck 248), with some
>nice new touches; pickled rutabagas, auger nosed pickle haters, and
>dinosaurs for elephants. I think I prefer the later version, not always
>the case when Barks recycled plots.

The story as published in DD Adv. is a copy of the story in The Carl Barks
Library. These versions are not quite the original:
- the story is re-inked, pp. 1-4 by Daan Jippes, pp. 5-22 by Dick Vlottes.
  This was done in Holland in 1981-82. Apparently noone in the USA knew
  this when the Dutch copy of the story was published...
- the American version is censored: the cannibals were much more 'frightening'
  and had thick lips etc. One panel is completely deleted, a panel showing
  the cannibals in close-up, suggesting to eat the ducks.

I don't like the re-inked artwork of Vlottes (you can see the difference
with pages 1-4). Maybe that's why I don't like the story that much, too.

Harry Fluks
PTT Research, Leidschendam, Netherlands
H.W.Fluks@research.ptt.nl
From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Warlock and the Infinity Gems
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:02:16 GMT
	<1992Jul20.121507.1@skcla.monsanto.com>
	<visser.711670631@convex.convex.com>
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia

In article <visser.711670631@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

: +>That brings up a good point:  How did the High "Handle-Head" Evolutionary get
: +>the Soul Gem in the first place?  Can't ask him now, he's got gorgonzola for
: +>brains.
: 
: 	It might also be possible that the gems want to affect the mind
: of the owner (ala warlock in the 70's series) and if the owners 
: mind is too strong to directly affect, the gems "direct" the mind of
: the owner to give them up/away.  The high evolutionary gave his away,
: the Gardner (in Marvel team up 55) dropped his on the moon and walked
: away.  The stranger allowed his to be stolen by Thanos.  
: 
: 	I am of course going by the original stories and not by the
: current stories with all their retcons.

What I think will happen at the end of the current series is that the
gems will do something like go back in time, along with Warlock and
Thanos. This supports the circular notion of Warlock's (& Thanos's)
existence. The gems will either go back to the "beginning of time", so
that the Gardener, Stranger etc, can find them or go straight to these
people.

BTW: followups to rec.arts.comics.misc

	- Robi
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Give Galactus "HIS" due
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:28:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <l7ddp6INN83t@male.EBay.Sun.COM> laker@eb5ts2.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney) writes:
>
>	What I would like to see....
>
>	is the Silver Surfer...with Galactus....traveling to an unknown
>	part of the universe...and they come upon a large structure that 
>	dwarfs Galactus's huge world ship...Big G and SS enter...and a voice
>	says..."you have done well", and Galactus answers, "thank you,
>	Creator"....the Silver Surfer, of course, freaks out!!! 
>	...and out of the shadows appears....(now that would be telling)
>

>
>	who is it??? why it's Galactus...THE "REAL" GALACTUS....the one from
>	FF 48-50, and the old Thor's.....how can this happen?  easy!, why
>	does this need to happen?...because it's needed! BADLY!!!
>
>	circa way back...Galactus constructs a self...to go out-forth, and
>	gather energy...and explore...and experience...while the "REAL" one
>	stays and experiments on how to cure his hunger for life-sustaining
>	planetoids.
>
>	This will explain why Galactus's strength has diminished to the point
>	where everyone this side of Aunt May can kick his ass...and it sets
>	up why he almost died in FF awhile back...the construct attempted a
>	form of suicide.
>
>	Now as to why such events as the Secret War...Infinity "whatevers",
>	didn't get the "REAL" Galactus's attention? 1) he knows that his
>	construct has sufficient enough cosmic power to handle the crisis and
>	2) nothing short of the universe collapsing into another "BIG BANG",
>	will get his attention...and even that's questionable since he has
>	already survivied such an event once as a mortal, Now as Galactus, he
>	would surely survive...HE IS GALACTUS!!!...HE IS "THE POWER" !!!
>
Interesting idea, but unfortunately, this is a too close reflection between
what Dr. Doom does.  In a retcon which I will never forgive Marvel for, they,
in one issue, showed all the times Doom was acting like a putz, and getting 
beaten by the _Punisher,_ he was in reality a Doombot.  Whenever they "stopped"
Doom, it was a Doombot.  In FF 350 (I think), they revealed the REAL Doom
really doesn't give a fig about the Earth, but came back to tweak Reed's 
nose once more.  And he was cool.  Tres.  However, with the return of DeF*cko
as writer, this incredibly interesting storyline was swept under the rug.
I'm pretty sure the real Doom is still out there, trying to get that Nullifyer
back.

-- 
Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Everything But Love tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"Oh God, does this mean we have to fight?"
			-Selina Kyle, _Batman_
From: tmf@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Thomas M. Fiola)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Roy Thomas
Keywords: Roy Thomas
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:43:57 GMT

Hello.  I am posting this for a friend.  You can respond to him by mailing to
dvb@reef.cis.ufl.edu.  Thanks.

        "Where is Roy Thomas, erstwhile Earth-2 editor for DC, among many
other comics positions.  I find it very odd that DC could revive the JSA w/o
his involvement.  I've just returned to collecting after a two-year absence, so
I might have missed any news about him; I'd appreciate any info about the
master of retroactive continuity (in it's most positive sense.)
					Scott A. Tacktill"
From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Good Comics
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:10:55 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <92204.090617ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Brett Rogers writes:
>
>    Speaking of Tales of the Beanworld, does ANYONE know what's up with
>that title?  It's by far my favorite, but I haven't seen anything about
>it in quite a while.  I think the last issue I was able to get my hands
>on was #19, and that was over a year ago.  None of the comic shop people
>I've talked to have any idea.  Is Larry Marder putting it out at all
>anymore?  Any help would be greatly appreciated...
>
>Brett Rogers


Dealer/distributer orders for TotB #20 were made four or five months ago,
but Larry got behind in things. He was appointed to a fairly high-up position
with Moondog's Comics in the Chicagoland area (PR director, or ad campaign
director, or something...), which, when coupled with his regular job, has
crippled his Beanworld output.
On the 1992 Cerebus US Tour, I went to the Chicago stop, which was held at
a Moondog's. Larry was there (but I didn't get to see him, because he 
disapeared when I found out about his presence :-( )...the store owner
reccommended that I harrass Larry about TotB #20 (which is when I found out
that he'd disappeared), because it had already been postponed (this was in
late April). Apparently, though, Larry has been doing plots for future issues,
and tape recording them. He acts out the different characters vocally...boy,
would that be a delight to hear!

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Subject: Re: Magneto (was Re:Jewish Superheros)
From: asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto)
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:12:26 GMT
Reply-To: asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto)
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center


In article <1992Jul23.222736.12758@midway.uchicago.edu>,
selke@usite-next.uchicago.edu (Lori Selke) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul23.093319.1@skcla.monsanto.com>
jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
|> >  The stuff about him being in a concentration camp is getting kind of
|> >hard to swallow, as it would make him and Xavier at least 60.
|> >
|> >Then again, they've retconned the ages a number of times.
|>      Not to mention the fact that Magneto was once reduced to an infant at 
|> some point in his career.
|>      I don't know when this originally occurred, but I remember a
recounting 
|> of the incident at Magneto's trial for crimes against humainty, waaay back 
|> in, I believe, issue 200 or so.
|> 
|>      So, Magneto has some excuse for being spry and youngish these days.
|> I don't know what's going on with Xavier.

Yes, Magneto has a good excuse for looking so young, but maybe Charlie does
also. I remember that he had his body cloned by the Starjammers or the Shi'ar
(one of the two) way back in issue #168 or so. They did this because a Brood
queen egg had hatched inside of him and started to transform him into a Brood.
Who knows? Maybe the cloned body ages more slowly? Also remember that he had
been in space for some time with Lilandra. She could have possibly done
something to slow his aging process. I don't think she'd want her "consort"
to shrivel up and die on her.
					Tony
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