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From: darkmage@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Dark Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: tangle
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:53:03 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616


the founder of Tangle magazine is a friend of mine from school (SUNY 
Binghamton) and it is going along well.  People who have gone to some 
recent shows may have seen the booth or been given little fliers with 
subscription cards (I handed out a bunch at Binghamton).  The magazine 
will cover horde type bands and issues like the environment.

The Advertising office can be reached at
215 Park Avenue South
New York NY 10003
Day(212)614-0316   Night(212)861-7229

Editorial office
Po Box n607
WEstport Mass.  90023
(9144)324-5503

mention you saw info on it on phishnet from Kurt

If you have any questions you can mail me and I'll see what I can do.


Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul
DM
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: betteb@rpi.edu
Subject: enough stereotypes.
Reply-To: betteb@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:02:48 GMT


	Hello out there.  Well time for my ranting and raving.  Please, ENOUGH
of the "frat boy" stereotypical bashing.  Simply because a few dumb meatheads
ruin a show, doesn't mean they're "frat boys".  I happen to be in a fraternity,
and I resent this.  YES there are meathead fraternities.  But shit there are
meathead Gay/Lesbian Native American Mentally Challenged Ethnically Aware 
Children of Alcoholics (add your favorite group term here) too!!!  We all are
different.  Christ here at RPI we have 30 fraternities, and only one of then
(that's them) is a "dumb jock" fraternity.  If some women are loud and 
obnoxious at a show, you certainly don't call them dumb bitches or something...
A fraternity is just a bunch of guys who enjoy living with each other.  It's not
some form of drunken brainwashing.  So anyway, I realize I'm rambling, but 
please don't lump me in any group, especially not a derogatory one.  Now I 
realize you're all going to post me shitloads of fraternity party horror stories
or whatever.  But please just remember that we're NOT all bleeping drunk
meatheads.  Christ I NEVER go to a show under the influence of anything.  I don't believe that stuff about drugs enhancing the experience.  My brain is all I
have going for me, I like to keep it in good working condition.  Wow this is
becoming longer than I intended.  But take this to heart, Phish net people.
Just because bashing fraternities is politically correct, doesn't make it 
cool.  Think before you speak and you won't hurt people.  But seriously, I hate
the drunk asses too.  Ok?  Ok, cool.  

	Let the Brian Bettencourt - flaming begin...


					Brian Bettencourt
	
					Phi Mu Delta

					Rensellaer Polytechnic Institute



Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Subject: Cavern vs. Gumbo
Reply-To: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:49:14 GMT

Since I was the one who mentioned the similarity, let me explain.  The first
Gumbo was in early December of 1990.  The first Cavern that I saw (I think) 
was in late December of '90.  Now if you listen to an early Cavern and an
early (e.g. no horns) Gumbo, the both start rather similarly, with a similar
sort of drum beat.  So when I was making set lists and the ilk, my first 
thought was that it was Gumbo (as I had seen one and had it on tape).  Of
course Gumbo has since fallen by the wayside, and Cavern has evolved quite
a bit, what with the metallic opener (circa NYE 91/92 (?)) et al.  So, in my
mind, I think of Cavern as what Gumbo could have become...
(BTW later in my first Stash show (12/29/90), the intro to Destiny Unbound
sounded a bit like Harpua.  O.k. just a bit.  So my question is, has anyone
else thought that they were getting an old classic when they heard the first
version of a song?)
"There ain't no time to stash the Gumbo or rattle around in the cage..."
-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: BD@u.washington.edu
Subject: "the scene" / grovelling in general / setlists in general
Reply-To: BD@u.washington.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:16:31 GMT


About all this "scene" talk:

Phish shows are like life: lotsa different people, some old, some young.
Some you dance with, others not. OK, so it's getting bigger and younger,
but so is the world - quit looking back on the "good old days, when there
were only ten people at the show". Look forward to the days when you'll
look back on yourself looking forward to the days when... 

About grovelling:

I'm sorry, but the net has turned into a begging forum, like the streets
outside a dead show, people asking for miracles. Trading's cool, but I'd
rather read about a show review or a musical insight than shameless
grovelling.  Solution? I guess, maybe, like put trades and grovels in
a separate organized place? Like want ads- you know, more efficient that
way.

About anal labelling:

Try this: (I know it sounds crazy) remove the labels from your tapes,
put 'em in a bucket, gently stir, (maybe add some purple paste - nonexplosive
of course), and voila! Stick one in and it feels almost like a show:
what's up next? might be a bit extreme, but I saw a set list where someone 
wrote down what language phrases were done (like "language: Homer Simpson->
AwFuck->....). That is ridiculous.You cant write down stuff like that.
Can you? ridiculous. hmmph.

"Let's go out to dinner (OOOOhhh!)
 And see a movie (AAAAhhh!)"


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: mgoldbrg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Ewe
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:49:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.000232.20049@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> AFOSTER@cmcvx1.claremont.edu writes:
>I have a suggestion that will hopefully cut down on repetitive posts.
>When someone asks a question on the .net, why not simply e-mail them
>directly and give them an answer?  Why do you need to use the .net as
>the medium?  I know have been told many times that a ewe is a female
>sheep.  
>				-Andrew

What if people only asked questions?  Hasn't an inquiry every sparked your
interest?  If an answer was never posted because they were always e-mailed
directly, supposed this happened:

yeah, you may cut down on redundant responces, but what about ten people
posing the same question?  

6 on one hand, half-a-dozen on the other, eh?  ;-)

Mark Goldberg

mgoldbrg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu  "Hal, for God's sakes, hit the wipers" -DL
Department of Radio/Television/Film
Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
(708) 332-1029


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 16-Dec-1992 2129 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: OK, this should stop the YEM debate once and for all
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:29:28 GMT

|>I hope this stops any confusion.
|I'm sure it did, but $10 says someone else will ask what the lyrics are
|before 1993.  Any takers?

what are they saying in YEM? 

;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)  ;^)
From: rafael@cats.ucsc.edu (David Erik Konerding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: trade have 2 NYE want NH or Sprinfielg
Date: 18 Dec 1992 04:02:15 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


	Hello fellow phish heads (I saw language at my first show,
Catalyst 4/19/92 and didn't have any idea what was going on-- no clue
that the MUSIC caused people to point at some definite non-assholes in the
front row but LOVED it.  It wasyet another reason I love seeing phish).

	I have 2 NYE tix but probably won't be able to make it to Boston.
I want 2 tix to New Haven (either night) or Springfield.  Please email me
at rafael@cats.ucsc.edu.  Sorry, I will NOT entertain requests for my tickets
unless you can provide the tickets I want (hey, I came 2000 miles and I'm
gonna see a Phish show :-) ).  A definite plus is if you'll be able to trade
the tickets at my house in Middletown, CT.   Enjoy1

(btw, the tapes from the ARU tree are GREAT!... totally nutty and jammin' too
I only wish the pigheads who run the Catalyst had allowed <21 year-olds into
the show.)

-- 
---
David Konerding						   rafael@cats.ucsc.edu
University of California, Santa Cruz
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From:  (CAN'T I LIVE WHILE I'M YOUNG? Help!)
Subject: CAN'T I LIVE WHILE I'M YOUNG? Help! Aspiring trader trapped at Yale university without taper phriends...Have over 75 hours of Phish and 60 Dead...Phish includes Original Studio Album (Acoustic Antelope; Dog Gone Lawn; Vocal YEM; Slave), '87 Private Party,  Much Gamehenge,  and recent and ancient rare vids...Beginners? -- Give me a card...Heyworth; YS 5014; New Haven, CT 06520...See ya' at New Haven & New Years... Can't make that ship to Quebec... TAKE CARE.
Followup-To: rec.music.phish
Organization: Public Macs, Yale University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:29:24 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Josh Orfanakis <G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu>
Subject: GOD STREET WINE(NO PHISH CONT.)
Reply-To: G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:43:28 GMT

I've noticed lately a lot of discussion concerning God Street Wine.  Well, I've
got a pretty good tape of them from 9/26/92 at St. Lawrence Univ. if anyone is
interested in checking out their sound.
Let me know....G_ORFANAKIS@CC.COLORADO.EDU
THANKS, AND STAY IN TOUCH....
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: Re: Phish in Newsweek (sort of...)
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 22:11:31 GMT

cae@davidge.com (Caleb Epstein) writes:


>    In this week's Newsweek there's an article on
>"Generation X", what I'd call the twentysomething
>generation.  In the article there is a picture of three
>Gen-Xers, one wearing a Phish hat and another wearing a
>Phish Net t-shirt.  In the little box next to the picture
>that lists popular music for this generation they somehow
>managed to omit Phish.  Sigh.

The magazine was Business Week I believe..

0-Noah Cole
--
Noah Cole		"Outside is America,		     NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
Macalester College	and also the car park"	            ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
St. Paul, MN 55105    	- Bono, 27 December 1989      cncole@coos.dartmouth.edu
612-696-7388 		 	Dublin	            aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: dalton@mtl.mit.edu (Timothy J. Dalton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Looking to Acquire St. Louis Soundboards
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: dalton@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet


gwg33762@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Garret W. Gengler) wrote:

| I`d like to track down soundboard tapes of the St. Louis show, preferably
| highish generation.

I think you mean low gen....I can manufacture a 200th gen sbd of the show...
easy...there'll be no signal left.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'  15-Dec-1992 1448" <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: A (VW) to QUEBEC 12/13/92
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:49:01 GMT

MARKUS BRAKHAN <71201.1016@compuserve.com>

| I:
| ======

< ... beginning of set deleted ... >

| David Bowie-->

huh?  how do you end the set on a continuation?  did they not finish Bowie 
again, like at Albany?

- rich

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Andrea M. Pacillo" <apacillo@polar.bowdoin.edu>
Subject: New Years-HELP!
Reply-To: apacillo@polar.bowdoin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:59:27 GMT

Hi!  This is my first time posting on the .net and I have a favor to ask of any
nice person out there. (I can't beleive I'm doing this) I have a ticket for the
New Years show... and I can't wait to go!  The only problem is that my
transportation down to the show might have fallen through.  Is there any kind
person out there who will be passing through Portland, Maine on the way down
there?  I will gladly pay money for gas and tolls if someone can let me catch a
ride down with them.  I hate to grovel here...  If not, does anyone out there
know if busses run down to Boston on New Years Eve?
	If anyone can help me, please e-mail me before Saturday (the 19th... at
which point I am going home for Break) or write me at:
                                A.Pacillo
                                28 Craggmere Ave
                                So. Portland, ME 04106
P.S. I know this might be a somewhat pitiful thing to do, but I thought it
might be worth a try!
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Bill Shaw <bills@sco.com>
Subject: Phish_Santana 7/25/92 tree update
Reply-To: bills@sco.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:45:24 GMT

Hello All, 

I talked to Henry Petras last night (at the Dead show in Oakland, which was
pretty good by the way), and he informs me that the tree will be rolling
soon. Those that are branches, sit tight, Henry will contact you. 
Those that are leaves, work out the trades with your respectives branches, 
as soon as the branches get their tapes the music can flow!!

Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, and Happy Phishing!! -- Bill


PPPPPPPP   HH      HH  IIIIII     SSSSS     HH      HH  !!! 
PP     PP  HH      HH    II      SS   SS    HH      HH  !!!
PP      PP HH      HH    II     SS     SS   HH      HH  !!!
PP     PP  HH      HH    II      SS         HH      HH  !!!
PPPPPPPP   HHHHHHHHHH    II       SSSSS     HHHHHHHHHH  !!!
PP         HH      HH    II           SS    HH      HH  !!!
PP         HH      HH    II     SS     SS   HH      HH  !!!
PP         HH      HH    II      SS   SS    HH      HH
PP         HH      HH  IIIIII     SSSSS     HH      HH  !!!



Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: X51A000 <X51A@slumus.bitnet>
Subject: Looking for a cheap place to stay inNew Haven
Reply-To: X51A@slumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:45:05 GMT

Hey-
    Was wondering if anyone knew of a place to stay in New Haven.
Looking for the cheapest place possible.  Thanks-

                                    x51a@slumus


                *hey chip*
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jsarna@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Academic Gamehendge
Organization: Clark University
Date: 16 DEC 92 22:27:04 GMT

hi, all!

At my last count, there are two phish.netters writing papers
for school on the Gamehendge myth/song cycle.  Perhaps, if these
folks are agreeable, they could be archived for the enjoyment and
edification of us all?^^^^^^^^^
                                the papers, not the folks ;-)
what does anyone think???

                                -jeremy
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jsarna@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Hat Popularity
Organization: Clark University
Date: 17 DEC 92 22:32:00 GMT

In a previous article, John Claiborne <71046.1624@compuserve.com> wrote:
> All of my music was downstairs with them, these new Phish
>Phans, and of my 30 live hours, Junta, PON, and my old LB tape, they played
>the Spin Doctors at least four times, and nothing else. May this new trend
>die a quick yet very painful death: 
> 

Could someone PLEASE explain to me this hatred for the Drs????  Yes, they're 
becoming "trendy," but that's a reflection on SOME of the people who listen, 
not the band itself (IMO).  You yourself commented with disgust about your
sister's friends all wearing Phish caps, but if Phish started gaining 
popularity among these youngsters, would we all desert (sp) Phish and find 
some even more obscure band to follow?  I for one am gratefu (no pun intended) 
for the spreading of Phish to our younger siblings--that was ME last year!

well...i seem to have wandered from the point a bit here, but...that's OK!
:-)
		-jeremy

>                      May God forgive me for assisting the trend,
>                              John Claiborne
> 
>Favorite thing said at a show: "No, really, what would you guys do if I
>                                suddenly gave head to this microphone?"
> 
HAHAHA---when is this from????
	-j 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ehs3220@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: toronto
Reply-To: ehs3220@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:48:38 GMT


	Toronto was an incredible show. I loved both first and second set.
	i loved bouncing, I couldn't stop moveing for the whole show
	when phishman sang the scarecrow song i looked around and I 
	couldn't find a face that wasn't smiling.

	WAS THERE ANY TAPES MADE THERE? I would do anything for a copy
	pleeeease mail me if there is 
	
	i really liked the Spectrum because it was small
	everyone was right there with the group
	the sound was great to. The only other indoor show i saw
	them play was the Armory in Syracuse. The echos there were
	horrible. 

	impresive show 
			    		-evan
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: NYE Net Gathering- Any Info- let's do it!
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:42:19 GMT

Now I KNOW that there are enough netters attending NYE  to have a net.gathering
but my only question os what we should do.  Last year we had the net.tabel
directly in the enterance of the New AUD qnd that was cool (got new members)
but I would like to propose that we do{ that and that we also do a real gathering for dinner or something because I got to meet onyly the people at the
table last year (Hi Matt- Hi John Greene , Hi others) and then some people
who were coming and going but I think that it would be cool to{ have a 
regular gathering this year?

Comments?

I w{ould be willing to organize something but I don't know Boston very
well so I think that we should find someone else- not Rich unless he wants to
because he is dealin with Hotels.  John, Shelly, Matt- are we having a ytable
this year? Let's discuss this!

-Noah

PS: Srorry fror all the typos, this editor ids really sucky and I am tired
and can't type well.  Hope you can all understand what I am saying!
--
Noah Cole		"Outside is America,		     NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
Macalester College	and also the car park"	            ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
St. Paul, MN 55105    	- Bono, 27 December 1989      cncole@coos.dartmouth.edu
612-696-7388 		 	Dublin	            aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Mike Formica <IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu>
Subject: Net Gathering
Reply-To: IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:25:15 GMT

Please dont flame me, I am studying for finals, and relize that this has been
asked before but,

WHERE IS THE NET GATHERING GOING TO BE ON NEW YEARS?
I don't know Boston to well, but there is a place by NorthEastern called
Our House(?), it is a dive that is on top of some store. When you order a pizza
, you get a pitcher of beer, or is it the other way around? Anyway, this would
be an economical and convienient place to meet. Any other suggestions? I
really want to meet you all, so please e-mail me back, or let the whole
NET know.

Also. My first concert was Leo Sayer when I was a little kid. I think I might
haVE SEEN ELVIS(my mom is an Elvis Freak) but don't really remember it.
My first concert by myself was in 7th grade. I saw Aerosmith. They were great
then, but I don't know if I would enjoy it  today.
                                           Just wanted to let you know,
                                            Mike Formica
From: mechler@cs.ubc.ca (Roland Mechler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: OK, this should stop the YEM debate once and for all
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:21:35 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.cs.ubc.ca

I believe Firenze is the Italian name for Florence (the nerve of
them to have their own name for it!). I've been on this stupid computer
for about 12 hours now and my brain is so screwed up I can't think
of anything better to do than post this. Maybe I should go home.
Hope I don't bump into anything on the way. Wouldn't want to smash
up my Firenze (just kidding, I don't have one).

Maybe if I crank some Phish on the way I'll regain my sanity ...

YEAH, RIGHT !!!

Arrivaderche,
 
-Roland
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: MH1406@student.law.duke.edu
Subject: Net Posts et al.
Reply-To: MH1406@student.law.duke.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:11:30 GMT

Hi kids,
    Some of you out there might have actually missed my presence
recently, what with all these serious discussions about proper net
posting materials and such, the types of things I normally jump all
over with comments, criticisms, etc.  Well, law school sucks, so
while I've been lurking, I've been silent.  And suprise suprise, I
will NOT add my $0.02 to the general posts already out on the matter -
at least one someone has expressed my view, and I feel no need to
repeat.
    One thing I will bring up, however, is a relevant note that goes
with requests/grovels/net community/digest v. newsfeed - Some of you
have presumed that when you send out a message, you're response email
address is included in your header.  Thus, you'll say, "I have great
sounding boards of XXXX, all who want copies get in touch," but the
header will say, "Source: The Internet."  And then I can't get in
touch.  So if you really do want people to contact you about
something, PLEASE remember to put your email address somewhere in
your post.
Thanks muchly,
Matt Heller
P.S.  It's been awhile since I threw this out to the net, but . . .
digital trader with boards of Phish, Dead, Allmans, and bizarre
combination of others (bluegrass/jazz/blues/etc) seeks same.  Will be
mostly out of commission til after new years (hi Mitch - sorry about
lack of contact), don't email til after the 17th (school's drive to
be erased - message will be lost).  Get in touch -
mh1406@student.law.duke.edu.
From: ejw4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ERIC JASON WALLACE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Tape Grovel (Sorry!)
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:45:52 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

If someone out there has any of the following tapes, could you please please
please e-mail me.  I have just under 50 hrs. of high quality Phish boards.  I
also have some great Blues Traveler and Spin Doctors if you'd like.  You'd
really make me glad glad glad!!!

    ---------------------------------------------
    | 1/1/87  (with Bob Marley's "Stir it Up")  |
    |                                           |
    | 12/6/86 (first "Whipping Post" ?)         |
    |                                           |
    | 6/9/89  (Led Zep's "Whole Lotta Love")    |
    ---------------------------------------------


Or if you have any shows with the following covers that would be awesome too!!

    -----------------------------
    | Communication Break Down  |
    | Good Times Bad Times      |
    | Whole Lotta Love          |
    | Highway to Hell           |
    | Whipping Post             |
    | Stir it Up                |
    | Touch Me                  |
    -----------------------------

Sorry about this disgusting grovel (especially during exams and everything)!
But to the person(s) who answer this grovel will get a special surprise
(something which would be much to risky to post. . . hint, hint).

Thanx and Sorry :-)
Eric <ejw4@lehigh.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish