From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: My dismay (Chris Patten)
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:37:45 GMT

jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:
>|> Oh ya, comparing with Somalia, Burma eh ? It may be better for you
>|> because you could exploit your fellowmen & serve your master at the same
>|> time. But to the millions poor hongkongers, what is there to shout
>|> about ?  
>Stupid comparisons.

I see, you want me to add more countries to the list : How about
Iraq, Iran, South Africa ?

>Am I talking to an "educated person" here? Abusive remarks and slendering only
>make your position weaker in discussion.

No you are not . " Educated person"  according to your definition
is one who has been indoctrinated by British ideologies.

>|> You seem to have comprehension problem here . I am saying that up
>|> to this very moment, the British still have that 'supremacy' attitudes
>|> & they they only do things to their own interests.
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>State some facts, I guess there might be some truth although I doubt that you
>know much since you are nothing but just a CCP follower.

Facts ? Are you so blinded ? As an independent observer (one
who is without fear or favour) that is what I see in Hongkong.
We don't need to go very far back - since you tend to forget
about history; look at the contracts for the airport project -
if you still want to argue, I rest my case, because you are
too blinded to see.


>I am only faithful to a government which respects human rights, which provides
>stability and prosperity. For you, you are faithful to a government which killed

Just a ploy , my friend.

>millions of your fellow countrymen, your loyalty to CCP is so much to an extend 
>which disgusts me, frankly.


I am not for communism - I always hope that one day China will
be a democratic country. I am not from China - sorry to dissappoint
you. But problems in China is just too complex - I reiterate .
More Chinese would be exploited by opportunists like you Hongkies
if TAM had succeeded.

>Not really, in HK people are generally better educated and informed
>than you perhaps.

Please get rid of your colonial, arrogant, despicable 
thinking which has the concept that people from mainland
china are less knowledgeable, less educated than you Hongkies !
Unfortunatedly I am not from China eh ?

>|> I said money is dirty ?  Ask your master if you still can
>|> get its meaning right. 

>You said so. Did you want to wash it before using it?

I see, so to you  saying " make dirty money", is same as 
saying that "money is dirty". Refuse to admit mistake or
are you really having comprehension problem ?

>|> Yes, after my trip to Hongkong.

>Irresponsible people making irresponsible remarks.

What irresponsible remarks ????

>Didn't you know that CCP wants HK because of the "dirty" money? How come you
>become so innocent and naive suddenly?

Of course not ! Hongkong is part & parcel of China. Of course China
wants to take it back . 
"Dirty money" ? After taking it back, there will no more
be dirty money. "Dirty money" is needed to cleaning up
"dirt minds" like you.

>Didn't you say that HK people should have democracy as well, now you changed
>your mind so quickly, I see, you are just like those CCP people don't honour

I am in fact favour democratic Hongkong - I never say I am against
it.

 I conclude that your arrogant attitude has blinded you; you
 prejudices against the Chinese in China have made you
 a fool, throwing you follies around in this net >

>I certainly have some sense of righteousness which you are lacking off. 
>Arrogant? Maybe I just express myself better. "Borrowed supremacy"? Who 
>would ever lend or sell other people supremacy?? ---- no need to think,
>it is all in your mind.

Need I say further ?

I rest my case. I just hope that this will open out your
mind a little bit. Stop treating the Chinese from China
the way you are being 'ride on' by the British.
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