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From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: RE-Darned Icons...
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:30:24 GMT

.Karl@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Kaz Karl) writes:

   >>Are you selecting the icon's picture (while in the editor) with the
   >>'marquee' and then copying?

	Acxtually, that was the <second> thing i'd tried...but the problem is it
   pastes the bitmap, sans mask...this doesn't look very good on my desktop...a
   vague, transparent icon...


Ah, but then all you have to do is go into the invisible file
"Icon\r" on the disk, and edit the mask of it using ResEdit.

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: comp.sys.mac.powerbook
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:58:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.002611.23687@verity.com>, anders@verity.com (Anders Wallgren) writes:
> 
> In article <6255@ucru2.ucr.edu> Michael Judson,
> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu writes:
> >Reading through the various mac newsgroups, I think there are
> enough posts
> >regarding powerbooks to justify a newsgroup devoted solely for
> powerbooks.
> >Does anyone else agree.
> 
> Sure.  I also think we should add the following groups:
> 
> comp.sys.mac.powerbook.supertwist
> comp.sys.mac.powerbook.backlit
> comp.sys.mac.floppy-drive.left
> comp.sys.mac.floppy-drive.right
> copy.sys.mac.floppy-drive.my.system.can.only.have.one

You left out
comp.sys.mac.floppy-drive-external
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bassman@iastate.edu (Bass Genius)
Subject: Re: IIsi sound problem
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:58:51 GMT

In <1992Aug21.194937.29773@talon.ucs.orst.edu> hinr@hobo.ECE.ORST.EDU (Robert Hinz) writes:

>Well here is my $0.02 about this problem. At least for me the problem
>does appear to be the connection between the speaker/led contacts and 
>the mother board. The first thing I noticed was my power LED on the 
>front of the IIsi was getting dimmer and sometimes flickered. Then the
>sound started to flake out too. I found that a light slap to the side of the
>IIsi case would fix both problems temporarily. I suspect that this problem
>is caused by electrolysis between two dissimilar metals in contact with each
>other while a current passes through them. The metal with the lower galvanic
>voltage will corrode breaking the contact. I have yet to take the thing
>apart to verify this. If I find anything when I do I will summarize to the
>net.

You are on the right track.  The fan at the back of the case draws cool air in from the front of the case to cool the motherboard.  Small dust particles 
collect on the connection of the speaker board and the motherboard.  To fix 
this, carefully remove the speaker.  It will pull forward and up.  Clean the
contacts with an eraser and replace.  This works EVERY time for me.

If anyone has questions, feel free to get in touch
******************************************************************************
*                                !                                           *
*    Jeremy J. Dearduff          |    If you haven't gotten where you are    *
*    bassman@iastate.edu         !        going, you aren't there yet!       *
*    tac40@ccvax.iastate.edu     |                G. Carlin                  * 
*                                !                                           *
******************************************************************************

>Rob Hinz
>Electrical and Computer Engineering
>Oregon State University
>hinr@ece.orst.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dave@nakiska.ucs.ualberta.ca (David Ross)
Subject: Re: 7.1 in Beta???
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:35:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.153209.24172@email.tuwien.ac.at> Peter Purgathofer  
<root@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> We (at the institute) saw 7.1b7.
> 
> Font folder (no more 15min to open the System Document - well, once
> more...)

That's great, but are Sounds done the same way?  Seems like a really good  
idea.  In fact, why the heck is the System File a suitcase - that doesn't  
really make sense.  All changeable pieces should be separated from the  
System.  Kinda like a microkernel I guess!!  
This is a NeXT geek talking - could you tell??  ;-)
--
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Computing and Network Services     |  (NeXTmail is fine)
352 Gen Serv Bldg, Univ of Alberta | Phone: (403) 492-9339
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada  T6G 2H1 | Fax:   (403) 492-1729
From: rod@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Direct Serial connection to a LW IIf
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:41:34 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

I wonder if anyone can help me out.  I'm helping organise a
conference soon, and I've been asked to work out hoew to
connect a Powebook 100 or 140 _directly_ to a LW IIf (that's
all we'll have with us.)

It seems I need a serial connection between the machines, but I
can't get it to work.  I've set the printer up to talk RS-422 on
the 9-pin port instead of LocalTalk, but the LaserWriter 7.1.1
driver simply demands that it requires Appletalk to be active, so
I get nowhere.

Does anyone have any ideas how this can be done?  I know I
ought to do it "properly" by getting a couple of LocalTalk
boxes and setting it up that way, but I don't have any of these
available.

The IIf manual (page 29) states that directly connecting a mac to
a IIf with a serial line is "not recommended" but does that mean it's
impossile?

Replies by email please,
  Thanks in advance,
   Rod Chapman
   DCSC, University of York, York, U.K.
   email: rod@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu
Subject: Re: System 7.1 - an overview
Originator: leonardr@diddley.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:02:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.150516.26153@ncar.ucar.edu> hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) writes:
>The summary doesn't mention it: I wonder if the Finder in 7.1 supports the 
>Apple Events Object Model?
>
	NO!  The "Scriptable" Finder, which supports the new "Finder Suite"
will be part of the AppleScript release.  

-- 
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Aladdin Systems, inc.		  GEnie:     MACgician
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jowens@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John Owens)
Subject: SuperBoomerang + CE Toolbox conflict
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Summary: Why is there a conflict?
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 06:43:13 GMT

When I try to turn on SuperBoomerang 3.0.2 in Startup Manager, I get this
message: 
"Sorry, you can't turn on that INIT, because the links to it conflict about
'CE Toolbox'. "

I don't even know what the CE Toolbox is much less how to fix the problem.
I like SuperBoomerang when it used to run before I got version 3. Any
suggestions or explanations?

(Mac IIsi, 17 megs memory, 6.0.7, a few inits [maybe one's got a CE Toolbox])

Please reply by mail if possible.

Thanks!
John

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From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why can't I print in the background (System 7.0 Tuner 1.1.1)?
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>Your document will be printed in the background when
>more memory is available.
> 
>You can try printing now instead but you
>will not be able to continue working until
>printing is finished.
> 

This happened to me as well on my classic with 4 MB.  It was just after I 
had installed 7.0.  I think what was wrong was that I was using an older version
of printmonitor, or that it had gotten placed in the wrong
folder.

I also had to re-install my system because I got a bad copy, so if all
else fails try doing that as well.  It took me several frustrating
days to fiure it out, but now works fine.
______________________________________________________________________________
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______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: matsb@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: Why can't I print in the background (System 7.0 Tuner 1.1.1)?
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:28:49 GMT

fredrick@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Timothy Fredrick) writes:
:
: Your document will be printed in the background when
: more memory is available.
: 
: You can try printing now instead but you
: will not be able to continue working until
: printing is finished.
: 
: By the way, "About this MacIntosh" shows more than 5MB available.  This worked
: up until a day or two ago -- I don't know what happened to break our ability
: to print in the background. Thanks in advance.

I had this problem when I was using the US version of the TuneUp on a Swedish
system 7. It seems the TuneUp looks for the folders by name, and these don't
match with the swedish ones. But I suppose you have the American version,
right?

One thing I noticed when I had this problem: If I pressed "Print later" in
the dialog, the dialog would go away and the document was printed in the
background immediately. What happens if you press the "Print later" button?

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
Department of medical systems                  Ph:  +46 18 187817
Sweden                                         Fax: +46 18 187825
From: davep@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Polaschek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SuperBoomerang + CE Toolbox conflict
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:33:29 GMT
Reply-To: davep@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Polaschek)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: LaserMaster Corp

billa@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bill Anklam) writes:
>SuperBoomerang & MultiMaster 3.02 requires CE Toolbox 
>to be installed to work properly.

which is regarding a message about CE Toolbox conflicting with 
SuperBoomerang.  This is true, but there are other utilities which by default 
install the WRONG version of CE Toolbox, and in fact some versions of Now 
Utilities shipped with the wrong CE Toolbox.  Make sure that the version that 
came with your SuperBoomerang is the one that's installed on the hard drive, 
and if it still doesn't work, call CE and they'll tell you which version it 
is that you need.

Dave Polaschek            Internet:davep@county.lmt.mn.org
LaserMaster Corp. R&D              ICBMNet:44^59'N 93^13'W
7156 Shady Oak Road                     AppleLink:LASERMAX
Eden Prairie, MN 55344                   ATTNet:6129439204
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander)
Subject: Unit table: Mario, what is it ?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:46:57 GMT

I occasionally use TAA (Technical Assistance Assistant, comes with
QuickKeys) to see what my system configuration really looks like in
detail. It's a nice application if you are trying to meke sure you
aren't dragging around more garbage than you need to.

Well, I just ran it again and for the first time I saw (may have
missed it before) 

      "Unit 31:.Mario(Open, Relocatable) ..."

in the Unit table listing.

Does anybody know what this is ? If it is something which got 
installed while I was trying out some software, how do I get rid
of it (assuming that I _should_ get rid of it !) ?

Any thoughts ?


-Sven

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Klaus P. Fechner <Klaus.Fechner@um.cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: 7.1 in Beta???
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:49:01 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-Xxdate: Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:51:25 GMT

In article <1554@sousa.ltn.dec.com> Rich Long, long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
writes:

...

> Does anyone know if Adobe is still offering the $7.50 ATM deal from last
> October?

>Richard C. Long			long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
>			  -or-	...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long   		
>			  -or-	long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com

Yes, as of last month when I ordered mine...

Klaus P. Fechner					klaus@sparky.rad.med.umich.edu
University of Michigan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dali@milton.u.washington.edu (David A. Lee)
Subject: I need a utility to lock the desktop that is S7 Compatible
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:59:58 GMT

Guard Dog worked with System 6.  It doesn't work with System 7.  I need
something that will prevent people from renaming the items on the
desktop and that will prevent them from throwing away certain files.

Any ideas?  Please send email.

Thanks!

David
From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Unit table: Mario, what is it ?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 13:58:18 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander) writes:

>"Unit 31:.Mario(Open, Relocatable) ..." 
>
>in the Unit table listing. 
>
>Does anybody know what this is ? If it is something which got installed
>while I was trying out some software, how do I get rid of it (assuming that
>I _should_ get rid of it !) ?

As I recall, this is the driver for the Abaton InterFax software.

__________________________________________________________________________
Stephan Somogyi                     generalist                     MacUser
From: teplitz@optilink.UUCP (Ron Teplitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Mac IIci won't boot without a monitor?
Keywords: Mac IIci, file server
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:55:30 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

I have a Mac IIci that I want to use temporarily as a file server with
no monitor.  It boots and comes up published on TOPS with a monitor
connected.  If there is no monitor connected, it doesn't.  And with
no monitor, I can't see any error messages or clues to the problem.
Is this Catch-22 all over again? Help!

-- 
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UUCP:   uunet!optilink!teplitz	Internet: teplitz@optilink.com 
"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so". D. Adams
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How do TrueType fonts interact w/bitmapped?
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:09:13 GMT

In article <19AUG199204234267@deimos.ucc.umass.edu>, s0671922@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (D. BESONEN) writes:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> How do TrueType fonts interact with bitmapped fonts?
> 
> Specifically, if I have both the TrueType font Courier
> and the bitmap font Courier 12 in my system folder, which
> one will be used when I select 12 point Courier in
> Microsoft Word?

It will use the bitmap to display on the screen; it will use
TrueType to print to non-PostScript printers; and it will
use PostScript to print to PostScript devices (because Courier
is built in to PostScript printers--if you have a PS printer
that doesn't have Courier built-in, it will use TrueType). This
is assuming that you do not have a downloadable version of
Courier PostScript available.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Re: RE-7.1 in Beta???
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:55:51 GMT

In article <moofie-170892125701@moofie.apple.com> moofie@apple.com (Steve Klingsporn) writes:
>
>Sounds and fonts and all have always been stored in the System file.  I
>think that extending the Finder metaphor (drag/move/copy) to these
>items is wonderful, personally.  The issues that arise when managing

The main problem with keeping resources in the System file is that
when the System gets corrupted and you have to reinstall it, you LOSE
all those resources.  This happens frequently enough that I never keep
anything in the System file except the fonts that System 7 forces me
to keep there.

I agree that extending the Finder metaphor is nice (or at least would
be if it weren't so slow) but I never saw what was so horrible about
Font/DA mover.

>resources OUTSIDE of the system file are not issues you've thought
>about.  It makes sense for resources such as this to be in the
>System file.  What other alternatives do you have, and what solid
>design concepts do you have?  If you're worried about speed, I'm

Suitcase 2 is a great alternative.  It probably does slow things down
a bit, but if speed were that big an issue I'd go back to System 6
long before I'd quit using Suitcase.

BTW, I'm only stating my preferences on this one point, and not in any
way agreeing with the previous poster's opinion that there are idiots
working for Apple.  Obviously there are many brilliant people there,
with many different viewpoints.  I just don't always agree with the
compromises reached.

-- 
And the President put his hand on my shoulder and said: "Dan, 
I _knew_ Spiro Agnew.  He was a friend of mine.  And Dan...  
You're no Spiro Agnew!"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: kritchie@mail1.cis.umn.edu (Kent C Ritchie)
Subject: PROBLEMS W/ PRINTING AND APPLESHARE
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:24:37 GMT

I am having a few problems getting a network of system 6 and system 7 working.
Ideally, we would like to put all of our Macs (mostly SE/30s) on system 7, but
we have a problem with background printing when we do.  We absolutely have to
have background printing.  When we first tried installing sys 7 on all the 
macs we got a "Not enough memory to print" message on all of the macs.  We 
checked the memory size of the cache and reduced it to 32K.  We also tried
increasing the allocated memory for the application (a database).  Neither
helped.  The other problem is we currently don't have a sys 7 driver for our
HP Laserjet III for Mac.  Can we use a Sys 6 driver?  We were trying to drive
TI laserprinters with a standard apple printer driver.  In any case nothing
worked and we were forced (due to time constraints) to go back to sys 6.  I
also noticed that background printing came to a halt when I connected 2 macs
running sys 7 to the rest running sys 6.  The program successfully spooled the
docs to the Print Monitor but the Print Monitor wouldn't print the docs.  I
was using Appleshare and the File Sharing from sys 7 to serve to the sys 6
macs.  File sharing worked fine though.  I was able to transfer files no       
problem.  I understand printing might be slow while Appleshare is really active
but if its idle should it totally halt background printing?  Any ideas would be appreciated.

--Kent
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Sys 7 Startup screens
From: glgyhrb@otago.ac.nz (Hyram Ballard)
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:33:41 +1300
Organization: Dept. of Geology, Univ. of Otago, NZ

I know I've read it somewhere but can't seem to find it now that I need it.
Could someone please explain the construction of a start up screen for System 7
(again?).
Thanks, Hyram.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: is_s440@kingston.ac.uk
Subject: Re: losing space Steve Strange
Organization: kingston polytechnic
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:24:23 GMT

In article <STRANGE.92Aug9184818@hang.dec.com> strange@zk3.dec.com (Steve
Strange) writes:

Not THE Steve Strange ??

PS. I'm afraid I never used to like your records
>--
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>|   Digital Equipment Corp.  |   necessarily those of my employer, or       |
>|   Nashua, NH 03062-2698    |   of anyone else, for that matter.           |
>|   strange@zk3.dec.com      |                                              |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: s0671922@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (D. BESONEN)
Subject: How do TrueType fonts interact w/bitmapped?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:23:00 GMT

Hello,

How do TrueType fonts interact with bitmapped fonts?

Specifically, if I have both the TrueType font Courier
and the bitmap font Courier 12 in my system folder, which
one will be used when I select 12 point Courier in
Microsoft Word?

Thanks,
David Besonen
s0671922@deimos.ucc.umass.edu
From: hans@smab.se (Hans C Larsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Quiting Finder under System 7 ?
Date: 11 Aug 92 12:56:54 GMT
Organization: Saab Missiles AB, RLD-Gbg, Sweden

Is there a way to launch an application as a substitute
for Finder.

I have a vague memory that there's some exotic key combo
to do this.

When exiting the application one would have to reboot.

(With System 7 N.B.)

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	Saab Missiles, Sweden		Motto:	"keep it short"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: nasadk@vccsouth10.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Subject: Re: True Type fonts wanted
Keywords: tt,font,symbol,bold
Reply-To: nasadk@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:15:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.123423.7022@ac.dal.ca>, cordes@ac.dal.ca writes:
|> I'm posting this for a friend with a Classic 2 and a new GCC laser printer 
|> (with Postscript capability). He's looking for True Type Symbol fonts, in 
|> Bold, Italic, and Bold Italic styles; he has the normal tt symbol font. Can 
|> anyone suggest a way of getting hold of these fonts? Thanks for any 

Apple's TrueType Font Set only included Symbol as a "plain" font. Other
vendors may offer Italics, Bold, etc...

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>
From: Tom.Lane@mixcom.mixcom.com (Tom.Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Postscript to TrueType?
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:34:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Aug18.043415.20021
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.


 Does anyone know of a way to convert Postscript Type 1 fonts to TrueType
WITHOUT shelling out for a commercial program like FontMonger? Doubt there
is...
      Tom

-- 
Tom.Lane@mixcom.com
From: anders@verity.com (Anders Wallgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: comp.sys.mac.powerbook
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:26:11 GMT
Organization: Verity, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6B5922CFA01C897@pokey.verity.com>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
X-Xxdate: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:28:12 GMT

In article <6255@ucru2.ucr.edu> Michael Judson,
judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu writes:
>Reading through the various mac newsgroups, I think there are
enough posts
>regarding powerbooks to justify a newsgroup devoted solely for
powerbooks.
>Does anyone else agree.

Sure.  I also think we should add the following groups:

comp.sys.mac.powerbook.supertwist
comp.sys.mac.powerbook.backlit
comp.sys.mac.floppy-drive.left
comp.sys.mac.floppy-drive.right
copy.sys.mac.floppy-drive.my.system.can.only.have.one
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system