From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: What is MKO position on the Islands?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:05:06 GMT

yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>>>Which people?
>>>Does Iranian mean anything without Iran?
>>>How is what you are saying different than what QAAJAAR did to Iran?
>>>According to what you say we should quickly submit any peice of land claimed
>>>by others in order to make peace.  Imagine Iran without Azarbaijaan,
>>>Baluchestaan, Turkaman sahraa and Kurdestaan.
>>>I never said that we should go to war with different countries over land.
>>>In this case Arab states are too weak to count for anyhting.  In fact this
>>>is Americans that claim the Islands not the Arabs.
>>>Should we submit to them to make peace?
>>>What should we submit after Persian Gulf?
>>>You just seem to be so peacefully submiting to the will of superpowers.

>>Ala, I really feel sorry for you to have such an interprtation
>>of Hossein's article. Where did Hossein conclude or implied that
>>"you" should submit land to make peace?

>HB Rafsanjaani (HBR) says:
>Iranians in its internal or external policies.  Even with a democratic
>government, force (and possible) war is no way of solving territorial
>disputes of these kinds.  Instead, international bodies (such as the
>International Court) should be used for these and other international
>disputes.  They may arbiterate aginast Iran in this or that dispute,
>but that is the price we should be ready to pay in exchange for peace
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~				~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Saeid bee setaareh:
>Did you read the above sentence?  If you did
>What is your interpretation of the above statement?

If the final outcome is to *save lives* and to live in *peace*
and if an international body such as the Int'l Court or the
U.N. are involved, then the situation is different and I agree
with Hossein.

However, if you want to keep a land thru senseless and bloody
wars that never end and in the process to spill a lot of blood
(of perhaps the same people living in the land you wish to keep,
and specially if the people do not welcome your rule) then you
are in the side of Shah, Khomeini, etc.

>I did not know about American and superpowers when I was born.
>I learned them from such people like Mohammad Haneef, Sa'eed Mohsen,
>and Ahmad Rezaa'ee.  Are these people also falling into Khomeini trap?!
>Or they were with the Pahlavi dynasty?

>I still think the way they used to think.  This is you and your devious
>friends who are now fallen into the trap of the US and other dictatorial
>regimes.

The above is an old akhoundism tactic. During the Shah's era,
the akhounds desperately attempted to use the Mojahedin's name
and baselessly claimed to be thinking like Haneef, Mohsen, ...
to gain some popularity and credit. Sorry Ala, but you are a bit
late. The true followers and close companions of Haneef now form
the backbone of the Executive Committee of the Mojahedin. You
need to find another road to popularity and credit. Continue
making halva and distribute it during 'Ashura. Also, consider
rallying behind the "crowd" in Tehran and shout:

	"jang, jang, tA raf'e fetneh dar 'Alam"
	"jang, jang, tA nAboudi estekbAr"
	"marg bar 'AmricA; marg bar esrA'il"

It makes you a good "anti-imperialist" and "anti-superpowers"
like the fellow akhounds and bacheh akhounds who have stayed
cleared from falling into trap of imperialism and Israel. They
just received arms and destroyed Iran' human and natural
resources in a senseless war and of course in the prisons.

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