HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: HAITI: Aristide to be back soon??
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:40:19 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <C0MEqF.Kr9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
>From the AP:
>
>   U.S. Sends Haitians Signal          
>     To Reinstate Ousted Aristide      
>                 ---
>    PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - A visit by
>a senior U.S. general last week sig-
>nalled Haitian military leaders that
>they must reinstate ousted President
>Jean-Bertrand Aristide, a U.S. Embassy
>official said Saturday.
>

     Pretty weird indeed! Uncle Sam always liked Bazin much better than J.B..
What they're trying to enforce, I figure, is still to have J.B. as President,
with Bazin as Premier (i.e. nothing new really). Here's how they will succeed:

     They will convince Aristide's party that they should choose a different
leader. After all, the F.N.C.D. took Aristide as their leader rather late
during the electoral campaign, and did it as a move to grasp power rather than
out of faith in his political abilities. So this first step shouldn't be too
hard. Secondly, uncle Sam will concince the military that the new FNCD is bet-
ter behaved than the old (i.e. no deshoukaj). Thirdly, the FNCD will take power
and everything will be the same as before (i.e. before the short lived spark
of hope that J.B. brought to Haitians).

      Still nothing new under the sun...

    Hubert.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: ANGOLA: The govt decides to give war a chance...
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:02:28 GMT

From AP:

   Angolan Troops Seize Headquarters   
     Of Rebel Leader After Clash       
                 ---
    LUANDA, Angola - Government troops
captured the headquarters of UNITA
rebel leader Jonas Savimbi Saturday
after defeating rebel forces in street
battles, national radio reported.
    Savimbi apparently escaped his base
in the central city of Huambo before
fighting erupted, said Gen. Jose Maria.
    ''When fighting ended, there was
not a single member of UNITA left in
town,'' Maria said.
    ''We have to assume their leaders
managed to leave before the conflict
began,'' Maria said on Angolan national
radio.
    Huambo, a central highlands city
300 miles southeast of Luanda, has been
Savimbi's headquarters since the rebel
chief rejected results of multiparty
elections in September and reassembled
his military.
    Rebel spokesman Jorge Chitendo,
speaking on Portuguese TV, reported
casualties of more than 100 in the
battle for Huambo. He didn't elaborate.
    Military spokesman Gen. Higino
Carneiro, meanwhile, said it was too
soon for U.N.-brokered peace talks.
    He added that the rebels must halt
military offensives before the
government would negotiate, the
Portuguese news agency LUSA reported.
    The U.N. has had peacekeepers in
Angola since the rebels and government
signed peace accords in May, 1991,
ending 16 years of civil war that
killed 350,000 people.
    Joao de Matos, chief of staff of
the military, said the battle broke out
when rebel forces, defeated Friday in
Kuito, retreated to Huambo and Saturday
attacked the governor's compound.
    He called it the rebels' biggest
offensive since their election defeat.
    The rebel group, the National Union
for the Total Independence of Angola,
lost a parliamentary majority to the
ruling Popular Movement for the
Liberation of Angola. Savimbi lost the
first round of the presidential race to
the MPLA's Jose Eduardo dos Santos.
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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:26:14 GMT

In article <C0HwJJ.DqB@ns1.nodak.edu> varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel) writes:
>Af en toe, katte opgooi haarbals.
>Af en toe, mense skryf haarbals op die internet.

[.....]

Oh! Plezzzzzz..!!

kauta - *flamed* by the rednecKKK :-) :-)
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From: shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Is this justice? (was Re: Interview: Joseph...)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:04:43 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:
>mark@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>: In the light of this the 
>: extremely light sentencing would be considered strange: except in a 
>: country where (white) farmers get suspended sentences and fines for
>: beating their (black) workers to death, and police routinely torture
>: and kill suspects with impunity.
>A touch hysterical. Calm down. 
>Unfortunately the courts can't rely
>on your extensive legal experience. We are very much the poorer
>for that.

Oh don't be so insipid.

The South African justice system is hardly something to boast about.
That there are and always have been some very good judges, doesn't
cover up for the fact that there have been some shocking ones.
And the same thing applies (and more so) to the magistrates.
(This isn't even addressing the question of the laws they had
to judge on, but what they were/are like).

The more this gets pointed out the better. You don't need extensive
legal experience to have _some_ idea of what justice is about.

Scott
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: alakew@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Abiye Lakew)
Subject: Re: Ethiopia: Massacre at Addis Ababa University
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:00:37 GMT

Jan 11, 1993

I posted on Jan 10, 1993 about the death of Issayas Afwerki due to
cerebral malaria, although I received this news from different sources
I have now received information to the contrary.

Therefore  disregard my posting about this news until a more reliable source
confirms it one way or the other.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: koningj@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Gert Koning)
Subject: Need info: University tuition systems
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:58:16 GMT
Organization: University of South Africa

The University of South Africa is a distance teaching institution that
has been in existance from 1946. It has 120 000 students none of which
are campus based - all tuition is through correspondence. Although the
university teaches through correspondence, it still has a fixed academic
year of twelve months, January through December.

The huge number of students and the projected growth of our student
population necessitates an urgent investigation of this university model.
UNISA is currently investigating the possibility of an open system of
registration where the student registers at any time according to his/her
particular circumstances and sit for an examination when ready. There are
other universities that operate according to similar tuition systems.
Information pertaining to such institutions (Location, Contact Person,
Fax number, etc.) is urgently required.

Can you help? Please reply by E-mail to koningj@risc1.unisa.ac.za.

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Department of Computer Services
University of South Africa - Pretoria - RSA
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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:07:07 GMT

>In article <C0HwJJ.DqB@ns1.nodak.edu> varvel@plains.NoDak.edu 
>(Andrew Varvel, who is being very patient, writes:
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Very patient?? Obviously chewing Red Man; full of spam...your head turned by 
the side.

[....]
>But what else should one expect from a spoiled master like Mr. Kauta?

Ouch! This hurts!

Kauta - flamed by the rednecKKK...*AGAIN*. :-) :-) :-)


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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:42:43 EST
From: Michael W. Sheib <MS7136A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Money matters in Mali, Niger,Togo, etc
 <16B4CB439.DANREBO@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu>

The CFA is one of the legacies which French colonial rule left in Francophone
Africa. The CFA franc, introduced in 1948, has pegged the economies of Francoph
one Africa to the French Franc at a rate of 98 CFA franc=1 FF. Although France
guaranteees stability to countries within the Franc Zone not found in other
areas of Africa, it does not come without a price. France, in effect, controls
the foreign exchange earnings of these African countries, as foreign exchange t
ransactions must be cleared through Paris first. Until the mid 1980's France
made a lot of money off this deal, especially from Gabonese oil. Second, these
countries cannot experience SAP (Structural Adjustment Programs (fro
qquit
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,alt.native
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: One Settler, One Bullet
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:22:22 GMT

In article <11JAN199313025082@jane.uh.edu> lib1p@jane.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino) writes:

>I will be honest....I do not know what started this....so I can only
>comment based on the information that I have (which is above) and the
>impressions that I get from this information.
>

For somebody who does "not know what started this", you surely talk a lot
of shit!



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From: f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: AFRICAN SOCCER: LIBYA PULLS OUT OF '94 WC
Date: 9 JAN 93 02:56:36 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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Description: World Cup Qualifier News


Just some bits of news that came in over the last two weeks:

1)	Libya and has officially pulled out of the World Cup
	Qualifiers. For those of you who are keeping track of the 
	groupings, Libya was in African Group D.
	

2)	The Angola - Zimbabwe game in African group C that was postponed
	from the 25th of October 1992, is now scheduled for this Sunday
	10 January 1993. 

	other fixtures will be coming out soon.

Oguocha.

Source: Harinderpal Singh Grewal                                     
	National Computer Board, Singapore    
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From: llk@kepler.unh.edu (Local Genius)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Interview: Joseph Shabalala and the journey of dreams.
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:32:23 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Now, I think I'm confused. Sometime last year, I read an article, probably
here that Jospeh Shabalala was shot dead by a cop in J'berg. The article 
said he was driving home one night when a cop stopped him and shot him in
the head. The cop supposedly claimed he thought Shabalala was trying to
look or draw a gun...

Was that article a hoax?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,alt.native
From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: One Settler, One Bullet
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:47:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.201107.25399@ucthpx.uct.ac.za>  Gavan the lecherous pimp
writes:

>KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
>[ tedious crap deleted ]
>
>Eh, we're all a little bored down here. Why don't y'all
>go outside an' play there instead. 

IF I want to play, you legendary idiot, I will be doing so in your house 
with live ammunition.....nay! You ain't that much trouble!

So go blow your ass and scratch your balls a bit...You might feel better.
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From: varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:34:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C0CpCw.Cyr
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <C02vLs.3qu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu 
(kauta) writes:

The usual flames and counterflames

>kauta - back on the block.

It is nice to know that you are alive and well, and that you are physically
in good health.  I hope that you are in good spirits in this coming year.
May good spirits come to your house someday.

Also, I hope that the next year will be one of peace, contentment, and
goodwill.  May the River Styx flow as only a trickle, not a flood, on the
continent of Africa.  And may the River Styx not flood on earth, and may 
this not be a naive hope.

And to all, A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: femibyte@athena.mit.edu (Olufemi G Anthony)
Subject: Re: JESUS HAS DIED - Introduction to the Series.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:47:37 GMT

In article <C0MKEG.9IE@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ijaz@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tahir Ijaz) writes:
>
>
>PROPHET  JESUS  HAS   DIED   -   INTRODUCTION   TO   THE   SERIES
>*****************************************************************
>
>
>There was a time when the circumstances surrounding the crucifix-
>ion of Jesus was a matter of great debate between Ahmadis and non
>Ahmadis Muslims.
>
>Whereas Ahmadi Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet who died  like
>all other human beings, a great majority of Muslims held the view
>that Jesus was taken to Heaven by Allah  and  a  Jesus-look-alike
>was crucified by the Jews instead.
>
>Few non Ahmadi scholars today like to  raise  the  topic  of  the
>death  of  Jesus.  To most it has become a non issue.  They would
>rather vigorously propound their  interpretation  of  khatam  na-
>biyyin.   It  has  become  the "flavor of the month" so to speak.
>The majority of Muslims appear to be indifferent  or  just  plain
>uninterested.
>
>A more interesting change in the attitude of Muslim scholars  has
>been  in  the total abandonment of the belief that Jesus is alive
>in Heaven. Only recently I ordered books from the Juma Musjid  in
>Toronto,  the largest non-Ahmadi Mosque in Toronto.  One book en-
>titled "Myth of the Cross" by Al Hajj Ajijola gave  full  support
>to  the Ahmadiyya view that Jesus died a natural death.  Similar-
>ly, well known Muslim scholars such as Ahmed Deedat back the  Ah-
>madiyya position on Jesus.  Moreover, several commentaries of the
>Quran from Egypt, one of them endorsed by Al Azhar, now interpret
>the verses regarding the death of Jesus as Ahmadis do.
>
>I will present a series of articles on the death of Jesus,  based
>on  the Quran, the Hadith, and books of history. This series con-
>sists of four parts, which will follow shortly.
>
>
>Dr. Tahir Ijaz, M.D.
>
>
>
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You know, I do wish you could avoid posting articles on Islam on this
newsgroup. It is EXTREMELEY IRRITATING. There is a soc.religion.islam
newsgroup to post stuff to. This newsgroup is not for discussion of
religious issues and the majaority of us who use it are not Moslems
either. So please discontinue this practice. We have enough Islamic
fundamentalists in the Sudan killing people. We don't need any more.

Femi.
From: varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african,alt.native
Subject: Re: One Settler, One Bullet
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:38:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C0nqsH.C7p
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network



If Mr. John Kauta truly believes in the policy of One Settler, One Bullet, I
have deep condolences for him.  He is sitting on and profitting from land
that was stolen from my Shawnee ancestors.  He is lucky that I do not follow
that philosophy.  I do hope that no one else does either.  

I am resolutely against apartheid.  However, when one looks at the meaning
of the term, it means "separation" (essentially, forced separation).  Many
injustices were done under apartheid, such as the forced separation of
people from the land.  Its aim was to deflect allegiances of people.  It 
seems to have worked, by making people angry.  Genocide is wrong no matter
who does it.

To combat the lingering injustices that have been going on in various
places, it is important to learn other peoples' languages and try to
understand where they come from.  It helps to put one's self into somebody
else's shoes in order to understand how an impasse may be solved.

Mr. John Kauta is profitting (for example, he gets to post from Indiana) 
from being on land stolen from my Shawnee ancestors in a movement that
came to be called "Manifest Destiny."  Should I shoot him for it?  No.  The
way to correct injustice is not through revenge, but an understanding that
we are all mortal.  

When faced with an oppressor, one can too easily turn to rudeness.  Even the
greatest men, when faced with oppression, could be rude.  That is human.
Those who can be patient under great pressure are people who are to be
admired.

I tell the truth as I see it.  I am scrupulous about being honest.  Those
who get hurt if the truth is ever told to them about what is really going on
are those who lie to themselves.  When faced with those who use lies in an
attempt to silence criticism ( a typical Nat trick, BTW ), what should one
do?  If one is honest, the truth shouldn't hurt.

I wonder what Mr. John Kauta feels like knowing that he is, by his own
definition, an oppressor.  How does it leave him.............cold?


--Andrew Varvel--
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: rad@cix.compulink.co.uk (Cray Communications)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Uganda TV station
Date: 12 Jan 1993 12:49:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: rad@cix.compulink.co.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hi again,

Sorry to bother you (this conference) again but can anybody tell me 
the address of the TV station in Uganda please ?

Please reply via email.

Thanks

Richard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel)
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:57:19 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Af en toe, katte opgooi haarbals.
Af en toe, mense skryf haarbals op die internet.

(Occasionally, cats have hairballs.  Sometimes, people write hairballs on
the internet.)



In article <C0F6Lo.7zp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu 
(kauta), purveyor of delusions par excellence, who sometimes seems to
perceive himself as the Internet Psychological Warfare Unit of the Azanian
People's Liberation Army, writes:

[ A well written, excellent example of a genre of literature which, although
devoid of any semblance of reality, has a method to it. ]

>You can't be that stupid! Next time you get hassled by the klan, try 
>reminding them you are one of them. If this doesn't help, contact David Duke.
>He might suggest you cut some hair off your back to show more *NECK*....
>
>[the list containing 12 days of a rednecKKK's Xmas deleted]
>
>>He forgot the hunting rifle, the potato chips, and the National Enquirer for
>>his wife!
>
>He? You mean *me*?? I am not even married! As for *you*, your 10 incestuous 
>cousins are callin' ya...Yet another Xmas wish granted.

(Actually, I was referring to the hypothetical
rednecKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.  However, it is a mark
of this character's intelligence that he was not able to understand the
reference.)

I applaud an excellent example of of this genre of literature.  Mr. John
Kauta weaves together insults in a masterful fashion, as if he were weaving a
spell.  Although the Mr. John Kauta's commentary was devoid of reality,
there does seem to be a purpose to it.

--Andrew Varvel--

Always look on the bright side of life.

--Brian

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From: varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel)
Subject: One Settler, One Bullet
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:26:33 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Mr. John Kauta, do you truly support the Pan Africanist Congress's policy of
One Settler, One Bullet?


Mr. John Kauta, do you truly believe that people should be killed if they
are not indigenous?

Speak up!

--Andrew Varvel--