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From: ricci@cbmvax.commodore.com (Mark Ricci - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: ToolMaker from CATS
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:59:03 GMT
Reply-To: ricci@cbmvax.commodore.com (Mark Ricci - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON) writes:
>Toolmaker is shipping(at least my copy arrived a few days ago).  It
>is powerful tool for building 2.0 compatible interfaces.  I did read
>the manual supplied, but only after creating a simple interface with
>all sorts of gadgets.  The use is intuitive and easy to learn.  I do
>wish there were more information on the 2.0 features(gadgets in particular)
>but the manual does refer you to the RKM books....  

Yes, that was done by design.  We wanted to document Toolmaker, not the system.
I would like to have included a lot more about using 2.0, but it would have
gotten us away from the matter at hand, Toolmaker.  Still, though, if you
find that the combination of the RKMs and the Toolmaker is not enough, we
might be able to squeeze a little more into the documentation for the next 
version of Toolmaker.

>While it is powerful, I did have a couple of minor nits...  I created
>two windows and found that when I decided I wanted one window, I could
>not copy the gadgets from one to the other....  I had to re-create them.
>The other "nit" was that if I wanted a gadget to be used to select another
>window, I had to do that "manually", the code generated did not automatically
>allow me to link up windows.  The code for it was all generated, I just
>did not have a way to say that selecting this gadget opens that window.
>all in all, a very good tool.  I know it will improve my user interfaces.

I think the nits you listed will be addressed in the next version of Toolmaker,
along with other new features.


Mark
From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Pascal for the Amiga
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:06:36 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug18.213132.3614@mits.mdata.fi> rkaivola@mits.mdata.fi (Risto Kaivola) writes:
> Originally, I wanted to know whether one can get a compiler with a
> source-level debugger for the Pascal language.  I have now received
> an affirmative answer.  There is a software vendor called HiSoft
> (I don't have their address, sorry) that sells such a system.

Here you are:

HiSoft
The Old School
Greenfield
Bedford MK45 5DE
UK

Tel. +44 525 718181
Fax  +44 525 713716


> Risto Kaivola
> (Internet address:   rkaivola@mits.mdata.fi)

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From: gm@germal.bs.open.de (Gerald Malitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Dragging
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:11:47 GMT
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2


	Hi!

	I'd like to move objects across my screen, quite similar to
dragging Intuition's icons.  I've tried bobs (overkill?) which work
well - in general.  My problem is somewhat special since there are
lines to fixed points (like rubber bands) moving with my object.
Currently I'm

   - drawing lines
	using COMPLEMENT, this erases old lines
   - DrawGList
	somewhere inside it restores old background, saves new background,
	draws object
   - drawing lines
	again using COMPLEMENT, this draws new lines

Doing this the lines appear above my objects, which is not what I want.
What needs to be done is

   1. restore old background
   2. draw lines (erasing old ones)
   3. draw lines (new ones)
   4. save background
   5. draw object

Obviously I can't use DrawGList any longer, because it falls into pieces.
I've tried BltMaskBitMapRastPort and BltBitMap to accomplish 1., 4., and
5.  At first (not surprisingly) it flickered badly, so I added a WaitTOF().
Nevertheless the results aren't as good as DrawGList.  The movement isn't
as smooth, i.e. my object takes longer steps.  So, what's the magic
inside DrawGList?

	aTsHvAaNnKcSe, Gerald.
From: entity@nsq.uucp (cybernetworx)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Program to generate COPPER LISTS wanted.
Summary: Copper List Maker
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:52:15 GMT
Organization: NSQ

In article <1992Aug16.021648.58182@cc.usu.edu>, slbfn@cc.usu.edu writes:
> I am looking for a program to help in the development of Copper lists.
> The program should be able to specify the list in any of the color registers.
> RGB controls are prefered.  I'd like to be able to change colors and "click"
> them to the screen.

Funny you should mention this... a friend of mine has just started work on
such a program.  I too have long looked for such a utility and so I proposed
it to him as a 'beginners project' since he was looking for something to do :)
 If you have any suggestions as far as features go, mail me and I'll pass them
along to him.  So far he's implementing the basic features such as point and
click, RGB adjuster, several different spread algorithms (as you probably
know.. it looks very ugly if you do a standard spread over a large area with a
limited number of colors.. eg blues going to red over the entire screen.  So
we use additional algorithms for intermixing the colors.. I'm sure you know
what I mean).  Umm. as far as output goes.. various ways.. actual copperlists
with the wait's in them (color register user specifiable of course!), straight
color lists etc.  I'll let you know as soon as it's done!  (don't worry, I'll
be helping him along over the rough edges so that it doesn't carry on forever
:-)
From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: A3000 / A2232 w/ SupraFAX
Date: 23 Aug 92 02:08:50 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

rrrodewald@happy.colorado.edu writes:
>I am having problems with my new A3000 / FAX setup.  I have an A3000 with an
>A2232 Multi-serial board and 6 (yes, six) Supra FAX Modems.  I am having two
>seperate problems.
>
>1)  Software:  GPFax, a great program, but it will not allow more than one
>               copy of itself to be run at once.  I have tried filezapping
>               to change all identifying names, but it still finds itself.
>
>2)  Hardware:  A2232 board seems to work fine, but it seems to crash the
>               A3000 quite regularily with a 8000 0004 Guru.  Usually during
>               hard disk access.  (Do they interfere?)  Can I up the HD
>               filesystem priority?  Any hardware jumpers?  Other ideas?

	The A2232 should work fine in an A3000 (we use them here all the time).
I would suspect the software accessing the A2232 first (terminal program or
GPFax).  Also try running enforcer to see if anything is getting hits (note
that the program mentioned by enforcer is not always the cause - if something
trashes memory it doesn't own, anything can die, and filesystems are pretty
easy targets for memory trashing.)

	That's all I can think of given the information supplied.

-- 
"Rev on the redline, you're on your own; seems like a lifetime, but soon it's
 gone..."  Foreigner
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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
From: dac@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Console file handlers from within a Shell started program
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 13:47:25 GMT
Reply-To: munnari!labtam!eyrie!prolix!dac
FollowUp-To: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
 <14545@borg.cs.unc.edu>
Keywords: 
Organization: More like Dis~, really.

In article <14545@borg.cs.unc.edu>, Stephen Tell writes:

> In article <1b7ea705.ARN22d0@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au> munnari!labtam!eyrie!prolix!dac writes:
> >In article <1992Aug11.080104.3354@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, James E. Talbut writes:
> >
> >> I want access to the file handle that the Shell would give if the
> >> programs io was not redirected, in addition to that for the redirected io.
> >
> >Can't you just write to STDOUT and STDERR if redirection is being
> >used? STDERR won't [normally] be redirected.
> 
> Last time I checked (1.3) AmigaDOS didn't have standard error.  The C runtime
> environments for Manx, Lattice/Sas, et. al. opened the console to simulate
> it.

It works for me

   fprintf(stderr,WELCOME"\n%s",ctime(&timestart));

writes to stderr, and 

   printf("Particulars is %s\n",particulars);

writes to stdout.

If I redirect stdout via '>', then I get the stderr output on the
console, and not in the redirected output.

> I would love to hear that this has changed and that there is now a
> standard error file handle accessible thorough Stderr() or some such.

Works great. 

Where is the problem?

[Using SAS/C 5.10a and WB 2.04]

> Steve Tell       tell@cs.unc.edu H: 919 968 1792  | #5L Estes Park apts

Dac
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From: ba178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gal-On Broner)
Subject: amos - amoner
Reply-To: ba178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gal-On Broner)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:11:00 GMT


  Amoner is Back! Took us some time but we are alive again.
  Disk no 4 is coming out in two parts, named amoner04.dms and amoner4e.dms.
  both sould be avaible at the sites given below by monday.

  Gal-on.


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  A public-domain "on-disk" magazine is avaible for Amos users. The disk 
name is Amoner and we will do the best we can to disterbute it on regular
intervals.

  Currently the disk is avaible from few major ftp sites, such as:

ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.59) directory: amiga/amoner/
nic.funet.fi                    directory: pub/amiga/programming/amos/ 

  You don't need to be an Amos user in order to use
the disk. All you need it to insert it to df0: and start up the computer.
for those of you who are Amos users, all sources are provided on the
disk for you to examine.

  the disk was fully tested under an amiga500 with 1mega of memory.
512k users will not be able to run some of the program. NTCS screen
will show the title page a little scrawy. The disk work better on PAL
screens and will attempt to put your computer into PAL mode if you
have Fat/Super Angus.

  Currently, the magazine is written by 4-5 of us, dedicated Amos 
users. If you feel you have something to disterbute and you want
to join out stuff for some cool coding, contact me to one of the
address giving below.

  Also, feel free to ask me any questions :)

  Gal-on Broner
  broner@black.bgu.ac.il
  ba178@cleveland.freenet.edu

P.S hope to see your names with us soon!

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                                                   //
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From: rogers@marge.math.binghamton.edu (John Rogers)
Subject: 680x0 assembly questions
Summary: Machine code info needed
Keywords: 68000, 680x0, assembly
Organization: The Blue Wizard's Lab at SUNY-Binghamton
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:05:18 GMT


   I have a 68020 reference manual on my hand, but unfortunately, I don't
have '030 or '040 reference manual.  So here goes my questions:

   1.)  Am I correct in my understanding that the newer chips throw the
        CALLM/RTM opcodes away?  If so, then what happens to the
        corresponding machine opcodes?  Are they turned into illegal
        instructions or what?

   2.)  I'd like to know the new opcodes (both machine and mnemonic) for
        both '030 and '040...and be sure to mark them as such (e.g. this
        XXX.W is '030 addition; and also mark it as privileged if so)
        I only need a one line description per opcode in question (e.g.
        BTST --- Bit Test <blab, blab>;    clearly the total lines devoted
        to each opcode should be at most three lines or so)
        The reason: to add new decoding logic to my disassembler, which I
                    then use it as a springboard for my next project...
        (Remark: My disassembler works fine for 680x0 with x=0, 1, and 2;
                 and I have the AmigaDOS reference book, 3rd ref., so no
                 problem decoding the latest object/load formaats ;-)

   Of course if you happens to have a pointer to a good disassembler that
can handle '030 or even '040 (it must have the source code), you can quote
the source in lieu of Question #2.
   Thanks for the input! ----- and oh by the way, since I don't often read
the UseNet stuff (being busy), I would greatly appreciate your e-mailing
directly to me these information!


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         ///            | The Blue Wizard Of Dragon Order (John Rogers)
        ///  Only Amiga | rogers@phyllis.math.binghamton.edu
  \\\  ///  gives you a | (Don't toucha my wand or I will breaka ya!)
   \\\/// creative edge |     #include <std.disclaimers>
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From: mortene@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Eriksen)
Subject: Re: A needed utility for the Amiga...
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:01:39 GMT

>software (worthwhile of course) that IBMs and Macs have, EXCEPT an mathematical
>equation editor!  There is TeX, but that is too slow/large/bulky for most
>people.  I would like to know if anyone is planning on, working on, or has
>released any such program.  The features that I would like to see are:

I was thinking of doing such a utility this summer, but just as the holiday was
getting close, I read in some UK Amiga-mag that sharewareprogrammers got very,
very few registrations on their products. As I was going to release my equation-
editor as shareware I got cold feet, and instead started coding a eurodemo...

Could somebody out there please let us know if it is possible to make any
money on releasing (good) shareware? (I know there are several guys on the net
who have coded brilliant sharewareprograms, Jonathan Potter, Charlie Gibbs, Eric
Schwartz (well, not exactly coded..) etc etc).

Morten
From: cfiddyme@neumann.une.edu.au (Chris Fiddyment)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Assembler programming.
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:58:22 GMT


  Has anyone had a look at the disks brought out by the Amiga Coders Club.
  They are from England. I am a beggining assembler programmer and need some
  help compiling them with A68k.
   e.g.  This line gives the error:
           MOVE.L (a0,d0),d0
                   ^ Undefined symbol.
  I am not sure what the original assembler for it was but I can find out if
  it is important.
  Also most of the graphics programs (scrollers, etc just give me a blue screen
  and nothing else)
  Any help getting these programs working would be appreciated.
          Thanks,   Chris.
* Chris Fiddyment.             |   I never promised anybody *
* cfiddyme@neumann.une.edu.au  |   anything.   Kermit.      *
From: cschneid@amiga.physik.unizh.ch (Christian Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Is this legal assembly code?
Date: 16 Aug 92 11:51:08 GMT
Organization: ICU - University of Zurich, Dept. of Comp. Sci.

>In <1992Aug11.122845.15395@mits.mdata.fi> rkaivola@mits.mdata.fi (Risto Kaivola) writes:
>  I would like to know if the following assembly language program is
>legal or illegal:
>
>       IFEQ label1-label2
>       rts
>       ENDC
>
>       rts
>label1
>       move.l a0,a0
>label2 rts
>       END

This is indeed an interesting case.
All assemblers I tried refused it. They don't like forward references
for conditional assembly ;-)

I tried it with: Macro68, DevPac, ArgAsm and another assembler I beta-test.

I don't think you really have to support this ;-)

- Chris
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From: divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Getting rid of requesters
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:09:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug15.220923.9546
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


  'lo all!  I have a problem:  I'm writing a program to run off of a console
  that does some DOS work.  How can I prevent system requesters (such as 
  "Please insert volume XXX: in any drive") from appearing?

-=Glade Diviney
  divineg@prism.cs.orst.edu
From: consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Kriston J. Rehberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Looking for NROFF/TROFF
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:26:14 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Binghamton University Computing Services - The POD Staff

I'm looking for an NROFF/TROFF program for the Amiga.  That one that
was ported with GCC from the Atari ST is all but useless for most
roff'd texts.

Thanks!

Kris
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From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: HOw to open screen on Xwindow UnixStation?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:29:19 GMT

In <14AUG199215161955@v8803s> sd7047787@v8803s (SD7047787) writes:
>How to open a screen (not window) using X on Unix workstation?
>I did the XOpenDisplay with my argument as hostname:0.1. From what I know the
>1 means screen number.

8-)

All X servers I know do not support dynamically allocated screens. They
rather have a fixed number of screens (most times only one screen) that
can be accessed by specifying their number.

Regards,
-- 
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From: stelmack@eggo.tmc.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Programming Tools (was: Amiga programmers UNITE)
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:16:39 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

In article <piet.025y@okapi.sub.org> piet@okapi.sub.org (Peter Vohmann) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.223432.27395@CS.ORST.EDU> divineg@prism.cs.orst.edu (Glade Diviney) writes:
>>  (I'm sorry, the last time I asked for an actual C ENVIRONMENT people called
>>  me a weenie. I'm sorry, but I look over at my friend's IBM, and he can
>>  run though his C program, setting breakpoints, stopping at any time,
>>  examining variables, and ALMOST GUARANTEED that the damned thing won't
>>  crash on 'im during the development phase. On the Amiga, a twenty-line
>>  "Open and Close a Window" program brings down the whole machine because of
>>  a misplaced ampersand. AAARRGGH. So I'm a weenie.)
>
>Have you ever used CodeProbe (SAS/C debugger)? It does a lot of the things
>you mentioned (except the guarantee). Yesterday again I stepped through my
>assembler code with cpr, watching the register values I had done. 'Quit'
>cleaned everything up nicely, one instruction before the point-of-crash.
>So what? ;-)
>
>The only thing is, it isn't an "integrated C environment." It integrates
>under the Amiga system, that's enough.
>

Actually, SAS/C 6.0 promises a fully integrated environment. And, according
to pictures in the AmigaWorld ad, has on-line help. Looks like we ARE finally
getting a full windowing C environment...


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-- FullTime Grad Student, PartTime Amiga Salesman, PartTime Amiga Developer
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From: robtu@itx.isc.com (Rob Tulloh)
Subject: Re: AWK for the Amiga
Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:13:33 GMT

I grabbed GNU awk (gawk) from ftp.uu.net and got it up and running
with GCC 2.0. I had some problems with bugs in ixemul.library that
have since been fixed (thanks Markus :-). At last look, I was still
having some problems running some of the test programs that got
distributed with gawk. I don't remember if I found the problem or
not (sorry, I've been busy being a new dad :-). I seem to remember
I was fiddling with the pearls suite which does a lot of 
math/recursion/looping. Now that I think of it, I think my problem had 
something to do with libm.a. I switched libraries and the problems went away. 
I don't know if I switched to the native logic in ixemul or the compiled 
version of BSD libm.a though.

Anyhow, I can say it works. I can say it is slow too. It also is a
very large executable when it finally is built. But then this is
a GNU program and they tend to be big.

Rob Tulloh
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