HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wje00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Warren Jay Eggly)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Call the Office of the Governor in Orgon - No on 9
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:03:03 GMT
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Call the Office of the Governor in Orgon - No on 9

I just got off the phone with the Oregon Governors office. They are compiling a 
tally of the numbers of calls they are getting about Measure 9. Please call 
them and tell them you are not in support of Measure 9. It does not mater where 
you are from. The number of the Governor is 

		508-378-3111

eggs
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: evil twins
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:58:48 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

FJ!! writes:

>John, why do you think our squirrel-friend, girl-friend,
>round-the-world-friend thinks we are twins?

Because you *are*.  Either you are the Economy Size JD, or JD is the
Travel Size FJ!!.  When I first met you, I initially thought someone had
put poor JD on a rack and stretched him (not that he wouldn't like that).
Besides, your accent is almost as cornfed midwestern as JD's, which is
delicious.

You'd both make an interesting pair of houseboys.  I think Jess can have
you in the winter (to stay warm), and I'll take you in the summer (to stay
warm; this IS San Francisco, after all).
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend

cruising: vidi, vici, veni.
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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Jess has designs on *my* little boy!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:46:04 GMT

fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:

>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>It would be an innovation, but perhaps we should try
>>to have you and John here at the same time.

>And spill the beans that John and I are actually the same pers...uh,
>never mind.

Dad? Pop? You know that *really* *big* tumor I got growing out of my
side? When are we going to see about getting the fucking, *stupid*,
*LOUD-MOUTHED* thing removed?

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 92 13:22:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <67145@cup.portal.com> <1992Oct4.140236.7944@tc.cornell.edu>

Melinda Shore writes:
>|It makes perfect sense to me -- if they look like a
>|prepubescent girl on steroids, they start acting like one.
>Gee, and all this time we thought George had no sense of
>humor.  It's a lousy, offensive one, mind you, but at least
>he's making an effort.

My apologies; I should have said, "prepubescent individual on
steroids."

-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Subject: Re: Heterosexuals (was Re: Faggots)
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:51:20 GMT

mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:

>Oh, but you haven't _really_ seen Big Hair until you've gone to a 
>Tent Revival in the Deep South (tm) during the summer.

>I've seen hair "Jacked to Jeeeessssus" with so much hair spray that a
>small hole opened up in the ozone layer over southern West Virginia,
>eastern Kentucky, and southwestern Virginia (and this was only _one_
>revival meeting near the common borders of those three states).

The Dallas Chapter of the Ladies Home Auxillary for the Preservation
of Coiffiture will hold its weekly meeting after church this Sunday 
noon the Highland Park Cafeteria.  After taking our Scriptural Vitamin, 
we will dine on a sumptuous feast of Chicken a' la King, steamed prunes,
green Jello and Tab.  Afterwards, our guest speaker, Connie Carp of
Tuna, TX, will deliver her prize-winning essay, "Human Rights, Why Bother?".

-- 
Brent Capps           | 
bcapps@agora.rain.com | Know what to kiss, and when
bcapps@atlastele.com  |
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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Madonna bashing
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:48:33 GMT

Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:

>John Dorrance writes:
>>But George, we didn't have sex. I don't understand.

>I do.  ;-)  In fact, it seems rather *obvious* to me.

But I don't... say, waitaminute...

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: enough already.
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 14:47:29 GMT


In article <1992Oct1.125202.14728@linus.mitre.org>
jclander@texas.mitre.org (Julian C.  Lander) writes:

>(Although, in fact, Penzance is a town, not a ship.)

Well whaddaya know!  I always thought penzance was
what the priest wanted you to get down on your knees
and do, if you'd been naughty.

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anthropo@carina.unm.edu (Dominick V. Zurlo)
Subject: Re: Surnames (was: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 00:25:20 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <Bvnys3.6Jw@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>Hmmm.  As long as we're casting these upon the waters, what on earth
>>could one do with "Seebacher" and "Winnig"?  (Anyone who says "Winbacher"
>>is invited to step into GGGrandma's parlor for punishment. :)) 

I like Win-bach-ing,  Winbaching,  sounds like Win (as in a race) bach (as 
in batch) ing (as in ing)

What about Zurlo and Guiney?  I thought of Zurney or Guilo, but they don't
sound too catchy to me.  Usually I just call David my little snuggle cub
or some such phrase that just seems to trip off my tongue.  

Flapjack
"Yes, I'm bi - both top and bottom."
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Surnames (was: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT)
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:38:32 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Organization: DosBears

In article <1992Sep25.050224.26541@adobe.com> asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal) writes:
>I got to see the Liptons at the Folsom St. Fair this weekend.

You're such a teas! Actually, it is pronounced 'Lipton', but
it is spelled 'Pressie'....

--
         David R. Preston   drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
              Information gladly given but safety requires
               the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
            D. R. Preston 584 Castro St. #614 SF CA 94114 USA
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Ours flamb'e
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 22:43:13 GMT


In article <1992Sep26.215958.28479@macc.wisc.edu>
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>One need not be concerned about
>fruit flies.  They don't even byte; they suck.
Occupational hazards - - - - - ^^^^

Jess [predicting a likely gnat-buzz on a channel near you]

-- 
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From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: What adjectives do you think best describe romantic jealous
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 19:08:17 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct6.071154.5937@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca> <flame@kaa.gr.osf.org>

Eamonn McManus snarls:
>>> part where I'd have 10-20 adjectives that people commonly associate with
>>> romantic jealousy and their feelings.
>>Boring.  Destructive.  Divisive.  Dumb.  Futile.  Immature.
>>Irrational.  Irritating.  Laughable.  Ridiculous.  Unnecessary.
>>Unwanted.  Useless.
>>
>>And, for me, at least....
>>
>>Nonexistent.
>
>Well bully for you.  What an insensitive cretin.

*NOT*.  Of course, you haven't had the pleasure of meeting
Anthony (or John), I don't believe.

I tend to agree with Anthony's list of adjectives, actually.
Jealousy is an idiotic emotion.  I might *envy* a lover for
making it with someone we both lusted after, but being 
jealous over it is just too ridiculous for words.

Of course, I'm sure this will get me a copy of the "insensitive
cretin" tag.
 
() Take away the right to say "fuck" and you take away the
() right to say "fuck the government."
()      -- Lenny Bruce
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Paglia, Faludi, Wolf & Associates
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:30:19 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco
Originator: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com


Not sure of the motss-relevance here, or of the value for
any non-Bay Area folks ('cos I'm *not* typing it all in :-)),
but last Sunday's (9/27/92) San Francisco Examiner "Image"
magazine has three *faaabulous* cover-story interviews, under
the title "Feminism and its Discontents," with Susan Faludi
("Backlash"), Naomi Wolf ("The Beauty Myth") and Camille
Paglia ("Sexual Personae," "Sex, Art and American Culture").

Almost worth calling Senior Editor Gary Kamiya (415/777-7905)
and asking for a spare copy...
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: daniel@nstn.ns.ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: I love this town!!
Keywords: Everyone should start a new thread.
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:57:28 GMT

Now, this was just too juicy a coincidence to not tell you all about.

Alain wrote a really good story about a hot night out with his cousin in
Montreal.  I wrote him back saying what a great story it was and how it
brought back a few memories of hot times there.  Alain wrote back to say,
"Je suis tout ouie!" so whisked him a journal entry and a story about a
conference this spring, and an incredibly hot Montrealleur who attends the
same conference with me every year.

The cousin, and my conferencemate, whose room in the dorm at Memorial
University, St. Johns, Newfoundland, was next to mine at the conference
this year- are the same guy.

--
Daniel MacKay					daniel@nstn.ns.ca
Homo habilis					Nova Scotia, Canada
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Faggots
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:58:54 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Sep25.175846.18056@trentu.ca>
xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory) writes:

>In article <1992Sep24.185712.12877@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>
psp@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (P.S.  Powledge) writes:

>>Now be a good boy and run along now.  You must be _this_
>>tall -- I'm holding my thumb and forefinger about a
>>centimeter apart -- to go on this ride.

>I, too am holding my thumb and forefinger about an inch
>apart, but I, I am CRUSHING YOUR HEAD! Ha ha ha!

A centimeter tall and a head 2.5 centimeters across, not
*that* is a fathead, without a doubt!  There might be a
rather loud pop as the big old sky falls into that vacuum.

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From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:05:48 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct6.205433.20980@spdcc.com>, rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob
Donahue) wrote:

> 	Ah, but then doesn't it [wearing expensive suit] fall flat on it's face?  

> I mean I'm so analytical, that I would be thinking more of the
> reason we were all in the room and working on that.  Trying to
> distinguish suit parameterizations would be quite far from my mind
> in any case.  If the reason for the congregation was something
> surrounding the suits themselves, I think it's a safe assumption
> I wouldn't be there... :-)   but if someone's spending $2500 on clothes
> to impress me it's a waste of $$$... 

It's true that some elements of fashion require the audience to 'know'
something about said fashion.  Excellent example:  pink triangles and
rainbow rings.  To many, these are pink triangles and rings.  Nothing
else.  And to some extent this applies to expensive suits.  Where the
intent of the wearer is to show off his or her wealth by wearing an
Armani - he or she relies upon the crowd to 'know' that your typical
Italian suit costs around two grand.  Ironically, this attitude is almost
always doomed to failure.  The people who will know such things will
often themselves be able to afford such a suit, and so will not be
impressed by the cost.  Bear in mind, these same people *would* definitely
notice if you were to show up in a half-off special Mervins.

So, if you want to get noticed at a restaurant in Beverly Hills, shop
at Mervins...

I do not believe that the principle reason for purchasing an Armani
anything (I, myself, only have some ties by the Lord of Italian style -
not having the disposable income to pick up a silk suit...) is to show
off one's wealth.  Or to show off anything, for that matter.  I believe
the intent is to transform oneself into a figure of respect.  Even JA
touched on this with his mention of a Brooks Brothers suit he occasionally
whips out (at least, I believe it was JA).  Brooks Brothers carries a
similar (if somewhat more conservative - rather ironic, ah wee?) 
mystique.  These are not suits you wear to work to sit in at your desk
all day.  These are suits you wear to not only be seen, but to also
be heard.  People in them have an aura of power, and it is not necessary
to know that the suit costs two grand.  It just *looks* *good*

Damn good.  And I really do believe that, given a direct comparison,
even someone who has genuinely *no* interest in fashion would see a
*major* difference between a generic suit and Armani, Brooks Brothers,
Versace, Krizia, Cardin, Laurent or any of the other 'name' designers.


Melmothra, ACC
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Gai Pied to cease publication, and Sunday Brunch
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:52:09 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) wrote:
>In article <1OCT92.15073332@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
>Does he have to say "Please give me 57 peas", and if so, do you count them?

No.  I'm just silly.  Being a scientist requires precision in what is said
or written.  A couple is two.  He gets the other 55 peas as long as he
begs for forgiveness in that special way I adore so much.

       Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu
"It's always Beach Party Barbie, or Malibu Barbie....  That shit does not
prepare you for the true horror of a real woman's life.  Where is Single,
Abused, Trailer-Park Barbie?"             - Roseanne Arnold
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Subject: Re: Camille Paglia on fashion (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:28:47 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: soc.motss

In article <73096@apple.Apple.COM>, richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
wrote:
> 
> Melmothra:
> 
> >Mantras:
> 
> >  [...] 
> >  American Express, don't leave home without it (but only if it's gold)
> 
> You may grovel at my feet the next time we lunch, dear.  Mine's platinum.
> Whenever I want to look back fondly on the avarice-filled Eighties, I just
> reach for my wallet and pull it out.  The glittery bits mesmerize me much
> like a glass of Suze on a hot summer day.  

I *love* it when you pull it out. <grovel> <grovel> <grovel>  But what's 
Suze?  Sounds like a woman's name to me... 

ps.  The QuickTime video is to *die* for, snookums.  To *die* for.

Melmothra, ACC
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Subject: Re: Jess has designs on *my* little boy!
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:22:33 GMT

roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
>(And it looks like I'm about to start going steady with
>someone whose body metal weighs more than he does.)

You've started dating a mouse on a leash?		FJ!!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants)
Subject: Re: Madonna bashing
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:42:02 GMT

In article <66964@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>Stephen Arrants writes:
>>>Of course, I can be notably more forward from behind my keyboard
>>>than in person....
>>
>>Now George -- That WAS you on the patio at the Lone Star after the
>>Folsom Street Fair, wasn't it?  I mean, how much more forward
>>can you get?!?!
>
>Firstly, I'm disappointed that you didn't come over and say hi.
>;-)

I was busy.  We were all busy.  We were inside the bar in the back, doing
something that all of us learned how to do in the scouts.  Surely you saw
the six of us in a circle.

>Secondly, that wasn't being forward.  All the people I was...
>ahem... "involved" with were people I already knew, and had
>been involved in similar activities with on earlier occasions.

Hmm....Well, OK......But honestly, it was so crowded outside I don't see
how anyone would have room to do anything.

>There is a large difference between playing about with a friend
>one has done so with before (even if this new instance is in as
>public a place as the Lone Star's patio), and proposing a round
>of BearBoinking to someone one has just met -- particularly in
>the case we're talking about, where the person has a partner, and
>there is no information available as to whether either or both
>are available to outside parties.
> 
Well, manners've never been my strong point. Too bad we didn't meet up. We had
a bear caravan go upt to our house at the River after the Lone Star. Really
stress-tested the hot tub!



Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@lib110.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Call Toll Free Oregon Tourism Office - Voice Measure 9 Opinion
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:53:09 GMT

dgwelton@ecst.csuchico.edu (David G. Welton) writes:

> 
>The operator took my name and address, then I said, "I want to state 
>that if Measure 9 passes, Oregon would NOT be a place I would visit." She 
>said she would enter that information into the computer. (If you don't want 
>to leave your name and address you could just call to voice your disdain for 
>Measure 9.)
> 
>Call the Oregon Tourism Division now at: 1-800-547-7842.
> 
>Their slogan: "Things look different here."
They sure do!!

This is a GREAT idea, David!! Now, everyone, CALL, y'heah?

-- 
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11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735
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From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: evil twins
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:26:58 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <BvAt7I.sE@cs.vu.nl>, fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:


|> Honey, putting clippers in my hands would be dangerous. I mean, I could
|> kill someone with them, without even trying, believe me. I need someone
|> else to do my hair.

All you need to do is cut all of your hair the same length (ie, very very
very short) and you could even do yourself...

Trust me, it is the only way to fly....


FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Re: What adjectives do you think best describe romantic jealousy?
Organization: Open Software Foundation Research Institute, Grenoble
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:12:35 GMT

aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>baltman@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Brian Altman) writes:
>> I am putting together a survey on romantic jealousy. I'd like to include a
>> part where I'd have 10-20 adjectives that people commonly associate with
>> romantic jealousy and their feelings. 

>Boring.  Destructive.  Divisive.  Dumb.  Futile.  Immature.
>Irrational.  Irritating.  Laughable.  Ridiculous.  Unnecessary.
>Unwanted.  Useless.
>
>And, for me, at least....
>
>Nonexistent.

Well bully for you.  What an insensitive cretin.

,
Eamonn, not in a good mood


Xref: sparky soc.motss:41851 ba.motss:1801
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ba.motss
Subject: Re: Has anyone been on a Mariah Wilderness Expedition?
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:03:56 GMT
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Originator: glp@merlin


In article <1992Oct2.014226.2185@cisco.com>, lol@cisco.com (Lol Grant) writes:
|> I've just been looking at Mariah Wilderness Expedition's January 1993
|> Costa Rica "gay tropical adventure" brochure. 
|> 
|> It looks very interesting: cycling, hiking, rafting, sea kayaking and
|> finally, relaxing, in and around Costa Rica.
|> 
|> They claim their guides are bilingual and highly experienced in
|> river-rafting and sea kayaking. It's also on the expensive side
|> ($1000, before flights to Costa Rica are included).

Costa Rica is a beautiful country.  If $1000 includes
all travel and food and lodging it's a bit steep but
you're paying for having someone else make all the
accomodations for you.  If you don't speak Spanish or
know the country it could be difficult to do for yourself.

-- 
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Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
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