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From: jvc0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Carrier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: New Meat Beat Manifesto
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:58:21 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <BuMJ5G.21v@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF TH
E BEACH) writes:
>speaking of meat beat manifesto, can anyone tell me the name of the song
>that contains the lyric:  "This is what its all about....This is what its
>all about....  ....Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll...."???  I've heard it a
>few years back but can't remember the name.  I'm am just now getting into
>meat beat.  better late than never, i guess.



that's 'psyche-out'---the remix version [extremely dull song].
-- 



I apologize in advance for anything contained in my file that could be
construed into a violation of LUCC policies.  If you send me mail about any
offensiveness, I will immediately forward it to Binod.  If you call me to
complain about anything, I'll tell Binod.  If you attack me on campus, I'll
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: hoffman@n2.math.umn.edu (John R. Hoffman)
Subject: Utah Saints, what happened?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:45:50 GMT


Saw FLA and wanted to see Utah Saints last night.

Something about Utah Saints not making it through immigration.

Anyone know the details?

Thanx

JRH
From: westr@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Robert _FinnAgain_ West)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Matt's trick postings. WATCH OUT!
Keywords: Crash Worship
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:43:35 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <Bu3IGp.738@ecf.toronto.edu> payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE) writes:
}
} 
}MOTHER FUCKING ASSHOLE.
} 
}******************    WARNING TO RMI PEOPLE *******************
} 
}Be VERY careful with the headers you send you when replying to Matt's
}wanker posts. He's follow-ed-up-to Misc Test and for fucking weeks you'll
}be getting mail with copies of everything from auto echoers. I dont know
}how many you'll get, but alot.
}I know its my own fault, but Matt put that there for a purpose, andits
}been served. I feel pretty stupid since I should know about this shit.
}Ho well, minus 1 point for legitimacy on Matts claim for recognition. Toast,
}complete. Poof.
}Everyone else dont be as stupid as me. Eek.
} 
}/kc
}-- 
	Feeling quite stupid myself these days. I was in the midst of
replying to one of his insidious (but, to his credit, always
provocative) posts when it suddenly came upon me a phrase from my days
in the schoolyard : "...you're only egging him on..."
	The beginning of discourse is recognition and the end is a
turning-away. Having the one-time pleasure of actually meating (sic)
Matt I realize now that the latter option is the only cure for the
textvirus. 
	So I post my own warning, though pretentious sounding,
grounded in humility. When we spoke he intimated something to the
effect of desiring to be the archetypical "burr under the saddle".
He's getting a rise out of all of us, much like Perot (for various
reasons, positive and negative) made us more aware of our need to
vote. Perhaps we can start discussing the genre of industrial* music
again and let Matt to spread gasoline on pastures new.
	(* industrial - trade word for Robert West's personal
definition of the music he digs. Should this definition intersect with
yours, lets talk. Should it not, lets discuss the differences and
learn from each other.)
	So, in alignment with my own suggestion (and those in the
group just like it) I submit the following thread:

Finally, after months of waiting, the record stores here finally
decided to start carrying the new Tear Garden album. 
	WHAT do people think of it? I find myself torn between liking
it and the cliche attitude "This is good, but it doesn't sound like
their old stuff". It seems MUCH more influenced by Ka-Spel's work than
that of cEvin Key (whose influence could be said to dominate the last
album).
	It sounds great, but I hear myself saying "LPD" rather than
"Tear Garden". The acoustic drums, the regular rhythm - the (Gasp!)
guitar solos - - this is a very different venue for tg (lowercase, out
of respect for TG fans).
	I would be interested to hear from people with an inner-circle
knowledge of the forces and ideology behind "The Last Man To Fly". 


Thanks for listening,
	Finn
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:37:29 GMT

>> 
>>for your information......we use this fucked-up word for meaning
>>stupid,dumb,fucking idiot......do you understand????????
>>We by no means do we mean it by what you took it as!!
>>I'm so sorry you don't believe in slang words,well get used to
>>it cuz we aren't going to change!
>>
>>(((noah)))
>
>Who are "we" that `you' proclaim to speak for: a group
>tending towards zero in significance. No one needs get
>used to it because in the big world out there, your
>"slang" meaning will hardly be heard in use again.
>
>Fuck off back to the ark, your present ship is sinking.
>
>Graham Freelan.

Ooo! your so quick! Gosh it really puts a pain right here!(hands on
heart).  Well to put it cooly, WE stands for john and i. And to tell
you the truth I really can give a shit what you think!! As far as the
boat thang, well if thats the best you can come up with..............
Well your not worth it!!!!!

noah

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Matt's trick postings. WATCH OUT!
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 17:19:58 GMT
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics
Keywords: Crash Worship

payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE) writes:

> Be VERY careful with the headers you send you when replying to Matt's
> wanker posts. He's follow-ed-up-to Misc Test and for fucking weeks
> you'll be getting mail with copies of everything from auto echoers. 

That's because *he* got caught in that very same trap a couple of days ago.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:10486 alt.rave:3096
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rave
Subject: Re: Techno/Rave/Industrial/Garage?  Confusing, man...
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:35:20 GMT
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Sep11.155959.25654@zip.eecs.umich.edu> ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Andrew C Crosby) writes:
>
[Bunch of stuff about whats garage and whats not..]

>i think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here... garage unfortunately has
>been used for two different types of music. one is the 'alternative rock' 
>definition about bands that are small and etc, but it also refers to a type
>of house music.(developed at the paradise garage in NJ, or something like that) so you're both kinda right..

Well at least you're a lot more civil about it than others have been, but then again, this
is RMI, so what should I expect...
Anyways, thanks for the info, and to the rest of you, please forgive me for not living
in NY amd knowing about the Garage Club and being part of your trendy waycool scene.
Before the flames, the only definition of garage I'd heard was the indie rock one...

---Steve


-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: <None>
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:55:14 CST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Sep15.135017.10342@bradley.bradley.edu>, pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
> 
> Sorry, but I've not heard many people call the Orb or the KLF techno.
> The bands I regularly hear that applied to, and the music on the
> explicitly labelled "techno" compilations I have is all generally
> fast, hard, and repetetive, whereas the wider range of dance music
> that I enjoy gets called lots of things, but not often techno (as
> I say WRT the Orb and the KLF).

FC9.. no need to apologize, I already said that I'm no authority on the subject
FC9.. but my question remains 
FC9.. is Rave=Techno?

an offering of love 
from flesh chamber9
From: david@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (David Stimson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Organization: Zone4
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:49:13 GMT


>
>Oh garbage, Dana -- that's how lanaguage evolves.  And since the word
>"gay" has been used as slang for "homosexual" for longer than either one
>of us has even been alive, I think it's a little late to start
>complaining. 


It's not so much using the slang gay for homosexual...the problem is when 
it's used in a derogatory way to decribe something...such as "gay music".
Which BTW is how this whole thread started...let's get back to the purpose
of this newsgroup...INDUSTRIAL MUSIC...or has everyone forgotten what that is
by now???
 

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    "The chair is armed.  Repeat.  The chair is armed." - The Chair - FLA
From: mallan@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Matthew Allan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:56:14 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online

Does anyone simply have a complete listing of concert dates?

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From: 00raehlin@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: SCDOWN
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:50:05 GMT

has anybody heard any thing about a new 242 album coming out this fall?
does anyone know what kmfdm song or album jello bafra appeared on?
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: nectar@world.std.com (Jacques A Vidrine)
Subject: My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult: show dates?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:57:44 GMT

I read that My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult will be performing
in New Orleans on the 15th of September.  Does anyone have other
show dates, especially in the Southern United States?
-- 
Jacques A. Vidrine? 	   | "Great holes secretly are digged where
nectar@world.std.com	   |  earth's pores ought to suffice, and things
			   |  have learnt to walk that ought to crawl."
Request my PGP public key  |			- Abdul Alhazred
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: Re: It's the Prick(I mean the Pope,Yes again!
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:39:41 GMT

jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young) writes:

>**AND** then calls me a college turd,when anybody
>with a 4th grade education can tell by the header
>that I'm not posting from a college!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously you were not accepted at the local Community College.

Grow up, shit-for-brains.

--
Ben Cox
thoth@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: adelon@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alain Delon)
Subject: High points and low points of the MTV Video Music Awards
Originator: daemon@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:54:03 GMT

High points:

(1) The 10 seconds of Godflesh's "Mothra" played as Jean Claude Van Damme and
    Halle Berry came out onto the podium.  So who's the closet cool person at
    MTV and how did s/he get away with it?

(2) Shannen Doherty.  Yum, and in a black mini to boot!

(3) Cindy Crawford

Low points:

The whole rest of the show, utterly worthless garbage.

Alain
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane)
Subject: Re: SPK discography
Keywords: SPK
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:34:26 GMT

is dekompositions the sepuku record? one other spk album not mentioned is       auto dafe. graeme revelle also has some solo work. there's the insect musicians and some tracks one an album dedicated to some mad guy, wolpe, or something likethat.
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Have the Mnemonists forgotten?
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:06:00 GMT

   Have the Mnemonists produced anything lately?
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Genesis P. Orridge, Newbie
Date: 16 Sep 1992 04:49:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

	Thanks to MNS's warped sense of right and wrong, this response
was originally sent to alt.slack.  Like I say below, get a life, mr. Sharp.


In article <BuLvyE.5MI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>
>Having just been informed of Mr. P-Orridge's recent network
>access, I await patiently for the chance to flame such an
>"important" person in the eye of the public.
>
>'Tis a rare and special occasion which cometh;
>
>Matthew Neill Sharp


	As you've said yourself so many times before (to paraphrase):

	GET A FUCKING LIFE!

	There are hundreds of "celebrities" on the net, and the reason they
don't ever participate in USENET discussions is because of losers like you.
Nobody cares what you say anymore, Mr. Sharp, so the only effect you will
have by "flaming" GPO is to further discourage people like him from making
himself known.  Have you _ever_ met him?  Do you have any _concept_ of who
this person is before you're about to burn him at the stake?

	I've already posted to nm-list and the future list about this.  
Sometimes the level of intelligence on USENET is simply astounding.

	I, for one, would like to hear what you have against him... being that
he is one of the forefathers of the very concept of "industrial".

	Brian
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:01:34 GMT

In article <--nn#4c@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>
>[About using "gay" as an insult:]
>
>>> I'm sorry, but Michael Wasson is right...even though it is a common
>>> slang word, it is still homophobic.   
>>
>> NO its NOT _homophobic_! 
>
>Fine -- how about we settle for bigoted and obnoxious?

yes, definitely.
but dont misuse words, (like gay is misused, IMNSFHO)
cuz that really leads to the destruction of the language
not to mention creating an ambiguity that makes
communication impossible
--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lcwu@athena.mit.edu (Lawren C Wu)
Subject: re:Hypo Luxa/Hermes Pan
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:12:08 GMT

>who are Hypo Luxa and Hermes Pan, listed as
>producers on LORAH and Psalm 69?  Is this just Paul and Alain

Yup.  Hypo Luxa is Jourgenson.  Hermes Pan is Barker.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE)
Subject: Re: Industrial Music for Industrial Snobs
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:37:16 GMT


Joshuea Buergel sed stuff like "go back and read what I wrote at the
beginning of this post" as if I didnt read it, then replied and got him mad.
Give the article a chance to get to rec.music.industrial before you blame
people for not listening.
 
As for MBV deciding what was played on the sound system before they went on,
I dont think this is completely true, or not always true. Kevin and Bilinda
were at the back of the Spectrum behind the sound boards while Mercury Rev
played their total crap. Before MR went on they had played SUE IS FINE by
MBV themselves. I asked Kevin if they pick the music and he said sometimes,
but obviously not tonight cause they're total idiots for playing MBV before
MBV itself went on.
 
As for Valium... I dont need any. This is great fun. Why do you think I
dont post about music here? Cause I dont learn anythign new, and its hardly
as much fun as the flming. Supposedly that ruins it foreverone else
so I make my ob.helpful.post every so often (like in a few minutes) after
yelling at everyone for not looking hard enough. :^)
 
/kc
Ken Chase
sizone!yelling_thru_keyboards_doesnt_work@ee.ryerson.ca
via payne@ecf.toronto.edu
--
From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: "Gay" Things
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:11:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Pigface, eh?  That makes sense.  Would it have anything to do with 
En Esch in particular?  I saw him at the Metro in Chicago, June 13,
with KMFDM.  He was wearing (under a trenchcoat, which he took off 
soon after the show started) combats, fishnets, a _very_ short skirt
and a g-string underneath.  When he wasn't singing or playing drums,
he was posing, flirting with the crowd, and working his mouth around
the mike enough to make my not-so-tolerant male friends a bit uneasy.
I'm not gay, or attracted to En Esch in the least (I like hair on a 
guy), but it just seemed like he was having fun, and you can never 
have enough of that.


					      Ramona
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: hard industrial (was Re: Music
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:16:55 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Sep6.053022.22933@cco.caltech.edu>, ctorres@cco.caltech.edu (Chon David Torres) writes:
> tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
> 
? Im trying
>>to stay away from buying another tape like Einsturzened Neu Bauten
>>that is god awful shit.... Clang (10 sec delay) moan (in german or whatever)
>>clang glash bang (7 sec delay)...etc...etc... I want the fuzzed rythmetic
>>slam to you drop shit.......
> 
> yeah i also like "hard" industrial. i *really* hate those poseurs who put
> out all those CD's full of clanking metal, random sounds, and other bogus
> "industrial" noises. :-)

FC9.. you will find the following to your liking

Ministry- Psalm69
Skrew- Burning in Water, Drowning in Flames
Megadeth- Rust in Peace
Metallica- Metallica
Dokken- Back for the Attack
Black Sabbath- Paranoid
Led Zepplin- Houses of the Holy
Eagles- Hotel California

FC9.. hope it helps

an offering of love
from flesh chamber9 

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (M a t t h e w N. S h a r p)
Subject: Re: Genesis P-Orridge, Newbie
Keywords: CHANCE OF A LIFETIME
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 04:32:02 GMT


Please note that Brain Behlendorf responded without thought to my
original post, and thus I found this gem in alt.slack:

In article <195afeINN174@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:
>In article <BuLvyE.5MI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>>
>>Having just been informed of Mr. P-Orridge's recent network
>>access, I await patiently for the chance to flame such an
>>"important" person in the eye of the public.
>>
>>'Tis a rare and special occasion which cometh;
>>
>>Matthew Neill Sharp
>
>
>	As you've said yourself so many times before (to paraphrase):
>
>	GET A FUCKING LIFE!


Good advice.  Very creative.  Let me point out again the
facts that [1] you felt the need to respond, and [2] you
responded to a newsgroup which you will probably never see
your message in because you were too stupid and short-sighted
to notice the Followup-To: line.  Now consider your above
statement, sir.


>
>	There are hundreds of "celebrities" on the net, and the reason they
>don't ever participate in USENET discussions is because of losers like you.
>Nobody cares what you say anymore, Mr. Sharp, so the only effect you will
>have by "flaming" GPO is to further discourage people like him from making
>himself known.  Have you _ever_ met him?  Do you have any _concept_ of who
>this person is before you're about to burn him at the stake?

	1. You obviously "care what [I] say", geek, or you
	   would not have responded.

	2. If I can discourage GPO from posting to RMI, all the better.
	   It will eliminate a lot of ass-kissing amongst the already
	   too-numerous geek population on the list.

	3. No, I have not _ever_ met Genesis P-Orridge, nor do I
	   consider it a goal.  It is much more difficult to
	   disrespect someone when you know them personally and
	   thereby cut them slack for their shortcomings.  I prefer
	   to dislike the man based on his lack of achievments.

	4. I feel I have a rather full picture of Mr. P-Orridge,
	   based on his "artistic" output and my own familiarity
	   with said work.

>
>	I've already posted to nm-list and the future list about this.  
>Sometimes the level of intelligence on USENET is simply astounding.

As you demonstrated with your misdirected response, sir.
Think before you post.  It is not too much to ask, even from
an ass-kissing geek like yourself.

>
>	I, for one, would like to hear what you have against him... being that
>he is one of the forefathers of the very concept of "industrial".

You have just answered the question.

Adjectives: trite, moronic, predictable, reactionary, aloof, whiny,
	    pretentious, pseudointellectual.

>
>	Brian
>

Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu   mnsharp@nyx.cs.du.edu
bp271@Cleveland.Freenet.EDU
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Mark Hosler is dead (was Re: Is Trent dead? NIN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:55:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.183559.29830@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>In <_5wnjxm@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>
>
>>I heard that he was setting up microphones inside an industral metal
>>shredder for their next album when David Wills (The Weatherman), who was
>>playing with the controls, accidentally turned it on.  His estate is suing
>>the company that owns the shredder for overriding the safeties that would
>>have ordinarily prevented such an accident.
>
>Wasn't he listening to the song "Christianity is Supid", which provoked an
>argument just before he turned it on?
>
>

    No, but I'm saying ..... eleven.      It's not even funny.    K!z!K
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: ACID HORSE?
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:44:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep12.160241.22628@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> carlwu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Carleton Wu) writes:
>Any hear anything by ACID HORSE?  I read in an article that they are a 
>collaboration between  Alien Jourgensen/Paul Barker and Cabaret Voltaire.

Yeah, _No name, no slogan_ came out a couple of years ago.  It's alright for 
the first few listens.

>This would seem to be a clash in musical tastes.  The industrial of Al versus 
>the funky disco grooves of CV. 
 
?????.  Twitch by ministry and Code by CV have an almost identical sound.


>				No, I don't consider Cabaret Voltaire as 
>industrial--except maybe The Covenent Sword and the Arm...album.  Their older 
>stuff is purely techno/disco.

Contrast early Cabaret Voltaire with early Ministry :o


-Howard




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"Jesus Christ, How many people does it TAKE to kill the President?"
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