From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet,news.admin.policy
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: When you have finished forging, "Josh Smith",...
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 20:15:22 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Dec28.102837.9746@muddcs.claremont.edu> irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith) writes:

>I want to make it clear that virtually everthing in the message to which
>this message is a followup is false, and that I'm merely running tests to
>see if a certain someone is really just an auto-reply daemon. We'll see
>tomorrow what response I get. In any event, I wanted to make it clear that
>the preceding message from me (I believe the article's reference number is
>1992Dec28.101943.9565@muddcs.claremont.edu) should be considered a joke

I was convinced that no one could have a more warped sense of the world.
If you think that this clears things up for me or anyone else, you must
also believe that aliens from outer space come to earth regularly and 
abduct "ASALA/SDPA/ARF" terrorists and revisionists for medical experiments.
There is stronger evidence for *that* you know. People will think you are
just some looney howling in the wires. And when you have finished laughing
I'd suggest you answer the points I've raised below. 

The Karabag region of Azerbaijian was populated by Turkish-speaking 
Azeris until the Azeri population was devastated by invading Armenians 
during World War I. Armenian forces massacred Turkish men, women, and 
children of the towns and villages which lay in their path. Armenians 
then settled the areas, and this became to constitute the majority. The 
Armenians are not seeking a 'reunification' with x-Soviet Armenia by any 
means. That is not the stated intent or the final goal of their bloody 
Dashnak ideals. They have claimed that if Greater Armenia (Hayatistan) 
is not created, that Azerbaijan will turn into another Lebanon. To this 
end, they have stockpiled ammunition, weapons and trained soldiers to 
murder defenseless Azeris. There are presently, 250,000 refugees from 
Armenia in Azerbaijan. The international community has never asked 
their fate. There are over 50,000 Meshketian Turks from Uzbekistan in 
Azerbaijan that the Azeris are also helping. 

The scenario and genocide staged by the Armenians 78 years ago in 
the Ottoman Empire is being reenacted again - this time in Azerbaijan. 
There are remarkable similarities between the plots, the perpetrators, 
and the underdogs. 

The criminal acts of the Armenian Dictators come directly
under the scope of the Convention on Genocide adopted by the
General Assembly of the United Nations on December 8, 1948,
containing the following provisions:

The Contracting Parties, having considered the declaration made 
by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution
95 (1) dated December 11, 1946, that genocide is a crime under
international law, contrary to the spirit and aims of the United
Nations and condemned by the civilized world;

Recognizing that in all periods of history genocide has inflicted
great losses on humanity; and

Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such odious
scourge, international cooperation is required;

Members agree as hereinafter provided:

Article 1. The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether
committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under 
international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.

Article 2. In the present Convention genocide means any of the
following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or
in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as 
such:

A) Killing member of the group;
B) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
C) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life 
   calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole 
   or in part;
D) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
E) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group;

Article 3. The following acts shall be punishable:

a) Genocide
b) Conspiracy to commit genocide
c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide
d) Attempt to commit genocide.

Article 4. Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts
enumerated in Article 3 shall be punished, whether they are
constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private
individuals.

Had the Convention on Genocide existed before the Armenian 
massacres of the Turks and Kurds, it would probably have been 
difficult for the Armenian organizations and its responsibles
to start murdering of civilian, defenseless, faithful Ottoman
citizens, children and women, (GENOCIDE AND ATTEMPT TO GENOCIDE),
to make plans to exterminate, as they have done also to Urartus
and Jews, faithful Ottoman citizens (CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT GENOCIDE), 
to incite Armenians to armed revolt against the legal authority
and to commit Genocide, (DIRECT AND PUBLIC INCITEMENT TO COMMIT
GENOCIDE).

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)