HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zdlin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (ZhongDong Lin)
Subject: Top 10 most fashionable words in SCC
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
  The following post contains adult language.  It may not be suitable for
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:42:13 GMT


     


  Top ten most fashionable words:

  10.  you jerk
   9.  you idiot
   8.  you hypercrotic
   7.  dogshit
   6.  bullshit
   5.  what-so-ever shit
   4.  ass
   3.  asshole
   2.  f**k
   

   And now the NO.1 fashionable word in the group of SCC:
  
   you communist running dog!  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: s9874194@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194)
Subject: Posting on both group
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:15:00 GMT

Hello, every one. Can somebody who uses VAX etl me how to post
one article on bothSCC and TPC (talk.politics.china) at same
time without typing that twice?
Thank you in advance.
c.q.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: Hello from news reader in China (Bill's wondering still...but no one seems to care!)
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:19:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.022544.22682@nuscc.nus.sg> elelyc@nuscc.nus.sg (Y.C. Liang) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.154218.7481@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug31.042442.19927@nuscc.nus.sg> elelyc@nuscc.nus.sg (Y.C. Liang) writes:
>>
>>>is not too many Asian culture activities in Australia.  I did not see
>>>any social activities organised by Vietnamese, Malysian, Indonesian.
>>>For Chinese, most of them from HongKong, have few.  Therefore, what they
>>
>>What is it that they have few? I have a tough time getting you here.
>
>It can be understood that, they have few (social activities).

	This is totally untrue! The Hongkong people in Australia have
	many social "activities", eg. some contests such as karaoke
	singing, poetry, and well, sports, too. There're actually more
	that I've never heard of - some related to the Australian 
	multi-culture programme. 
	
>
>>
>>>see is not people's cultures, but their behavious.  Even I myself
>>>sometimes cannot agree with their behaviours, such as take advantages of
>>>the social they live in.

	This one is true. People tend to rely too much on social
	allowances...from my point of view. They need to be pushed
	(maybe aggressively) a little bit to work. The Aussie gov't
	is to blame WRT that. 

>missed.  BTW, Singapore English is almost the same as the UK one.  

	I know.

---Cheers,
	Bill
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Bringing Down The Great Wall (part II)
Date: 24 Aug 92 21:02:19 GMT
    <1992Aug24.134459.21548@tamsun.tamu.edu> <s075198.714684237@cunews> 
    <1992Aug24.200717.24364@tamsun.tamu.edu> 
    <1992Aug24.203206.14998@cs.brown.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Most of Chinese in 80's know this song. Hope this can bring back your memory.

                                           .           .           . .      .
 5 - 3 5 | 2 - - - | 5 . 2 3 5 | 6 - - - | 1 . 6 5 3 | 1 . 6 5 3 | 1 1  6 5 1 |
                         -                     -           -       -    -
                                     . .   . .
 6 6 0 0 0 | 3 . 1 2 3 | 5 6 5 3 - | 1 1 6 2 1 7 | 6 0 0 0 ||
 ---             -         ---       ---     ---

If you know who wrote this song, you will know if the Great Wall will be bring
down.

Is there any one who is able to give us the words of the song?
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: For those who post "looking for Mr/Ms XYX"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:58:42 GMT

If you are looking for someone who might have an access to e-mail, the 
forwarded message might be useful to serve your "looking for someone" purpose.
I personally do not like to see the network full of "looking for classmate",
"looking for sister-in-law", "looking for x-wife's brother's uncle's mom"....

shannon
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From: kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee)
Subject: Re: Review of the Republican National Convention
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:07:32 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Aug25.170418.1869@cs.brown.edu> ylq@lems22lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen) writes:
>
>In 1930s, government created million of jobs for American through spending 
>money on building infrastructure like bridges, roads. That spending led the 
>way out of the depression.

The U.S. never really got out of the Depression until the War came and huge
defence hiring and weaponry projects were started.
From: yong@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: MiG 29 and North Korea
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:35:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

North Korea has obtained MiG 29 production facilities from former Soviet
Union. The first locally made MiG 29 was flown during a military parade
in April 1992.

According to Far Eastern Economic Review (20 August 1992).
From: cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Hello from USA (Re: Hello from news reader in China)
Date: 31 Aug 92 03:42:04 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


In article <1%mao.cs.tsinghua.cn@darmstadt.dbp.de> deng%mao.cs.tsinghua.cn@darmstadt.dbp.de writes:
>
>Hello, everyone in the ssc news net.  How is everything going?  Just from the TV, I saw the damage of Hurricane Andrew.  Hope it won't affect you guys too much.  This is a test message for the news sender here at the Department of Computer Science, Tsinghua University.  I guess it should work.
>
>Right now, our beloved Secratory Jiang Zeming is around me and ask me to say some hello to all of you guys.  He asks me to tell you that China welcomes any oversea CSSs to come back without regarding their past political performance.  We have excellent opportunities here, and now we also need a lot of young men for out faculty positions.  Well, if you decide to stay abroad, in US or wherever, that's fine.  But I just saw some posts in this newsgroup involved too many bad words, and that's not too good.  T

ry not to say any more.
>
>Best wishes.
>
>Deng

  Hi, we intercepted your electro-magnetic waves, it shows the signals seems
from USA to China and to be bounced from China. Well, anyway,it get to China.  
Is General sec. Jiang still behind you? ( Oh, no. good) May we ask questions?
What happened in Tibet? (what? you don't know?) Come on, people at here 
pay extra attention there. Someone must have found a huge gold or diamond mine 
resource Tibet, do they? Don't try to fool us. Today here people could get 
information by Hi-tech. Do forget that people in this country have history
of specially interested in gold, last century happened  in California and 
whole world then focused there. So if you don't tell us whether is there any
gold still left there, you can't stop the curiosities from USA, even cause
"rumors". Do you know many of people in the States are ready to emigrate 
to Tibet!
From: derekhu@spock.usc.edu (Derek Hu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: My two cents about Shen Tong
Date: 3 Sep 1992 16:24:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.usc.edu


The following is my observations and reflection on Shen Tong's arrest.

1.  Shen Tong, as a Chinese citizen, has the RIGHTS entitled under the 
    Chinese constitution, of free expression and free association.
    Unless there are other evidences, Shen's action is inside the boundary
    of the constitution.  Whether Shen planed his return, whether you and 
    I agree or disagree with him does not change this basic fact.

2.  The Chinese goverment has the duty to protect people's basic rights.

3.  Unfortunately, the current leadership, many of them were directly
    responsible for the infamous Tiananmen Masscre, choose again to
    violate people's right by arresting Shen Tong. Thus put Chinese 
    poeple's interest, such as MFN etc, into grave danger.

4.  Chinese leadership arrests Shen Tong under its own schedule.  Nobody
    forced this decision into Li Peng or Deng Xiaoping.  Any consequence
    from this arrest should solely rest on the shoulders of current 
    leadership.

5.  I may or may not support SHEN Tong's act or its timing. But I consider
    any violation of my fellow CSS's right as a grave matter that 
    deserves condemnation.   

6.  All neters on this netland has the right to express their
    opinions, including supporting or disagreeing with SHEN Tong.  

7.  Some people, like T. Bao, C. Shi and William Deng, rushed out 
    conspiracy theories when they knew little about the event.  
    I noticed that their psychic readings came out even
    before Chinese goverment announces its reason for SHEN's arrest.
    They remind me of the Chinese phrase "Lo Jin Tou Shi"
    (Throw the stones to people falling inside a well).


- Derek Hu
From: sas@crhc.uiuc.edu (sas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: William Deng, Could you do better
Date: 2 Sep 1992 14:23:57 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: paradigm.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: She's arrest

>William Deng wrote:
>Come on, what protest for? The whole event is a successful setup, and Shen Tong
>got what he wanted: to get famous and lend support to his congress friends'
>claim that China deserves sanctions because of the bad HR records. China also
>did not break her promise: it's fine to come back if you don't do it again
>no matter what you had done before. But anyway, a protest will make the setup
>more beautiful and it's not bad to have some excercise after a long time
break.
Mr Deng:

  You mentioned that CCP had bad Human Right record but you forget metion
how brute the CCP punishment for "political crime", from 6.4 in
1989 to this year's Japanese reporter beat up. from Wei Jingsheng's
20 years to Bao Tong's recently sentence. Are you willing to risk
your life just to become "famous" ?  

  If you can persuade 100 or 50 CSS in U.S. go back to China and
do the same things as She did, then Chinese will be much better off
in term of human right situation. I bet you even can not persuade
yourself to back to China and challenge the bad HR records of CCP.

  The point is China need courageous and brave people to stand up in
order to improve the human right situation. Few people live in
mainland China dare do it now. Nothing is wrong with CSS in U.S
try to prove the true face of CPP in the world. The pity thing
is that people like you who cannot do anything for Chinese people
but condemn other's dedication to China's democracy. Don't tell us
what you did in 86, if you can not do better than She in cause of the
democracy of China, then you own a apology for what you said about
She.
From: umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daniel Saltel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: OFFENSIVE MESSAGES
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:35:56 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

Somebody has got into my user-id and has sent offensive messages.
I am sorry that this has happened.
This has been very upsetting.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: ghe@nyx.cs.du.edu (George He)
Subject: Re: News readers from ROT(Re: Hello from news reader in China)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:09:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.162012.7728@engage.pko.dec.com> li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tong-Kang Li) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep4.152707.3933@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ghe@nyx.cs.du.edu (George He) writes...
>> 
>>I guess the following will be more appropriate:
>> 
>>Long live China unificationists.
>>Because you have to live at least 80 more years to see this happen peacefully.
>>Currently, unification with the obnoxious China is against the will
>>of more than 80% Taiwanese.
>
>CURRENTLY, yes, unification with the obnoxious China is also against the will 
>of more than 79% Mainlanders, in my opinion. After all, TI and re-unification 
>are just two of options. I think CURRENTLY majority people on Taiwan prefer
>"maintain status-quo but keeping TI and re-unification options open".
>
>>If commies use military force, I probably  won't be able to  see the 
>>brutal unification happen because I (I believe a lot more Taiwanese as well) 
>>will fight to my last breath to resist invasion from China.
>>And I guess mainlanders have to sleep more carefully after 
>>military take-over, because we, our son, our grandgrand son 
>>will be foe forever.
>
>Military take-over? Many mainlanders will fight to the last breath as you,
>dont worry.
>
>Tom

I felt that Tom misunderstood my words, somehow.

*Mainlanders* in my term are "citizens of PRC",
not WSR in Taiwan - a stupid acronym I avoid using.

*Taiwanese* in my term are "people who currently live in Taiwan or is born in
Taiwan." That, of course, includes WSR (I have try my best to avoid using 
this acronym. However, in order to communicate, I can't but use some
commonly used acronyms.)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liu@scs.leeds.ac.uk (L Xing)
Subject: testing
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 11:32:29 GMT
X-Posted-From: csparc1.leeds.ac.uk
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Please ignore this test message.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: 150 F-16 to Taiwan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:02:06 GMT



In article <Bu0KqH.Co5@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v999qx29@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu writes...
>In article <2SEP199222243857@deimos.ucc.umass.edu>, s9874194@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194) writes...
>>In article <1992Sep02.215414.8602@jho.com>, john@jho.com (John Ho) writes...
>>>>How about sell 300 F-16 to China? That would be more helpful and
>>may make more than $8 billion. That would give the US economy a
>>big boost. Poor George ! 
>>And Poor Chinese! Mainland is buying weapons from the formor USSR 
>>while Taiwan is buy weapons from the USA and French. Those guys are 
>>making money from Chinese while Chinese on both side of the Straight 
>>is armed to teeth to fight each other so those guys can have fun to 
>>watch the show.
>>That is the stage of international politics. People do not spend money
>>to watch show, rather people earning money to watch show.
>>Please, can somebody stand up to stop this? 
>>c.q.


i appreciate the above mentioned concerns.  But from the other side of the 
coin, if Chairman Mao liberated Taiwan 20 or 30 or 40 years early, there won't
be such sad things happen (I mean Yu-Bang-Xiang-Zheng, Yu-Wen-De-Li).

Deng Xiaoping is a Ruan\/(soft) Diao\/ person.  You can never place any serious
hope on him.

shannon
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From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Homecoming (Was: I'm very disappointed in Chinese)
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:38:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.164137.4331@ee.gatech.edu> gt9414b@ferrari.uucp (Wing-Cheong William Man) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.113239.12546@cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au (Joyous Dave) writes:

>[...Stuff deleted...]


>>"Drink Water, Think Source"

	** It goes without saying. We all belong to our "source".
 

>>Now, I really believe that Chinese are a grain of sand.  PLEASE PLEASE
>>PLEASE prove me wrong by posting some suggestions on how to improve
>>the country!
>
>I would also like to give you my suggestion. Go back to Hong Kong and
>contribute what you know. You said you are from HK, right? Go back with
>me! I'm leaving US this month. It will be wonderful to accept the 
>unprecedented challenge of HK.

	** I think I'll be joining you, too - sooner or later. I really
	   want to devote myself to our home although that mightn't
	   sound siginificant at all. But I think it's still one of the
	   greatest things to do - to me - it's always been. 
	   A hope I've always cherished.  

	   So, wait for me! I'll be coming home soon. 
	    
>
>William Man

 
---Cheers,
	Bill

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: English Usage
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:17:03 GMT
	<1992Aug29.224259.14681@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>
Distribution: soc
Organization: /cuba_b/dirbe/roten/.organization
X-Newsreader: GNU Emacs 18.57.1, GNUS 3.13, NNTP 3.10

In article <1992Aug29.224259.14681@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> 
dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang) writes: 
>>>
>>>4 pounds - 3 pounds = 1 pound
>> 
>>  From what I learned, the plural form of `person' is `people', although 
>> there are other usages of `people'.  The plural `persons' is also used, 
>> and these two plural forms have differently emphasized meanings (I 
>> cannot be sure which should be used in a certain occasion, though).

>  The discussion reminds me of this most stupid thing (I think) in English.
>You say 1 meter, 2 meters, 10 meters, 0.5 meters, 0.001 meters, and you
>even have to say -72 meters, -0.975 meters, and of course, ZERO METERS!  
>Everything except 1 is plural.  Now what about -1?  Is it singular? :-)

>dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu

IMO, plurals in English make *NO* sense whatsoever.  

But then, English is like salad .. use Anglic as a base, mix in some  
French (the Norman conquest), a little Spanish, a little Dutch, ... 
and pretty soon, you have a language whose grammer is a mystery to 
God, if he is not a native speaker.  :-) :-)  

--
Charles Roten | Hughes-STX, Incorporated | 
  roten@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov               | 'Use the Source, Luke!'
  7601 Ora-Glen Dr., Greenbelt, MD 20706 | 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Top 10 most fashionable words in SCC
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:26:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <HIEBELER.92Aug27082756@passion.think.com> hiebeler@think.com (Dave Hiebeler) writes:
>
>just the simple meaning to them.  So I think sometimes a Chinese
>person may be flinging American vulgarities around, saying things
>which bother me quite a lot, but which the author thinks is not so
>bad.

This is true.  I find that when Chinese talk to each other in Chinese,
they say words like "sex" in English.  They wouldn't feel unconfortable
when in English the way as in Chinese.

Anyway, it is a bad habit to use dirty words in public place.   Let's
be cool and not reply to those articles with many dirty words.

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
From: yong@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: China economic health (1978 - 1989)
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:30:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

China economic health (1978 - 1989)

1. the composition of China government revenue

years |	govt. revenue |	   % of govt. revenue     |	% of National Income
	-------------	-------------------------   ------------------------
      |National Income|	enterprise taxes | others | enterprise taxes | others
			-----------------	    -----------------
		      | direct | indirect|	  | direct | indirect|
1978	41.5%		60.0%	 32.0%	   8.0%	    24.9%    13.3%     3.3%
1980	35.6		59.3	 34.5	   6.2	    21.1     12.3      2.2
1982	32.9		52.5	 38.7	   8.8	    17.3     12.8      2.9
1984	32.3		44.0	 36.5	   19.5	    14.2     11.7      6.3
1986	28.8		33.6	 42.6	   22.2	    9.6	     12.2      6.9
1988	23.7		24.9	 43.6	   33.0	    5.9	     10.3      7.8
1989	23.2		17.9	 46.3	   37.4	    4.1	     10.5      8.5

2. the composition of China government expenditure

years |	govt. expend. |	 current expenditure	      |	capital expenditure
	-------------	------------------------------
      |National Income|	total | price 	 | enterprise | 
			      |	subsidies| loses      |

1978	41.2%		56.5%   6.4%	   2.9%		43.5%
1980	39.6		67.7    16.4	   2.3		32.3
1982	34.6		76.3	21.6	   3.5		23.7
1984	34.0		71.2	16.7	   4.4		28.8
1986	30.9		71.3	9.2	   12.3		28.7
1988	26.6		74.6	9.8	   13.9		25.4
1989	25.5		77.7	11.8	   15.1		22.3

3. net yield from profit taxes as a percentage of National Income
(where "net yield" = profit taxes - subsidies to loss-making enterprises)

years	net yield/National Income
1978	23.7%
1980	20.2
1982	16.1
1984	12.7
1986	5.4
1988	2.2
1989	0.2
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: shiping@max.u.washington.edu
Subject: RE: CCP's new leniency.
Organization: 
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:38:16 GMT


CCP is doing its best to show a smiling face to students studying abroad.  
They really need theses students to go back?  Maybe.  However, I think 
their real purpose is quite political, that is they want to calm down the 
harsh critics from foreign countries, so that they can borrow more money 
and do more business with these countries, especially the United States.

No matter what purposes are for CCP to show new leniency, my question 
is: shall we trust CCP, or, in other word, is CCP trustable?  In order to 
answer this question, let's check CCP's record.  In late 50's, CCP launched 
a notorious Anti-Rightist Movement.  Before they threw down those 
poor guys, they stired them up first by encouraging them to speak out.  
Many people, most of whom are intellectuals, unfortunately bit the bait 
and were sent to the 18th layer of the hell for many years.  Even their kids 
were deprived of the right for receiving high education.  Twenty years 
later, CCP bestowed these people's rehabilitation,, but they have never 
apologized to these people.  In contrast, CCP expects that these people still 
sing "We can never say enough about our gratitude to the Party."

CCP has a famous trick called "united front" (Tongyi Zhanxian).  They 
show you a smiling face as long as you can be used by them.  Of those 
who suffered in the hell for so many years, many were CCP supporters 
who helped CCP to defeat KMT and who came back from foreign 
countries with a pure purpose of helping CCP to build a new China.  No 
sooner had they lost their value of being used than CCP began to kick their 
butt.

From this piece of CCP's record, I do not think that I still trust CCP.  
What is your opinion about CCP?
From: cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Cease fire! Save SCC!!
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:01:46 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


    Hi, did everybody see what SCC is now, a dangerious
battlefield! Do we need pleading with UN for peacekeeping
troops? Think about it what SCC functions should be. I
guess it should be a bridge to exchange information and
knowledge. Though not for friendship, at least not for
hostile. 
    Dear Mr. Libucha, Mr. Twaint(?), Mr. Dave Mclane and
Mr. Carl or anyother Tibet-Independent supportters or 
Japanese imperial army protecters, why don't you go to
the UN to talk to them or the Chinese government representitives
It's more effective if you could convince them. Or else post
your beliefs to the newsgroup such Indepent.Tibet or 
Japanese-no-guilty.ww2 if available ( maybe you could creat).
Please leave SCC to be a nice place for Chinese or non_Chinese
readers. Otherwise We will shout with "no" polite "get out here!"

cqu
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