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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Jamal Faulkner stripped of scholarship
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:19:13 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Sep6.001855.5308@asuvax.eas.asu.edu>, kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
>      Just heard on the news that Jamal Faulkner has
> been stripped of his scholarship and "invited" to
> transfer to another school for allegedly violating
> his probation again last night by striking his
> girlfriend during an argument and preventing her
> from leaving the room.  She called police.
> 
>      While I'm glad to see ASU finally taking some
> steps to control the problems, I'm concerned that
> they've gone overboard and thrown out the baby with
> the bath water.  Whatever happened to due process?


 Come on Ralph - geezuz how many incidents does it take for you to realize that
ASU's sports programs are out of control? Wild Bill had to do something
pretty damn quick or the Sun Devil program was going to be in more hot
water than it could deal with. How long do think it will be before the NCAA
decides that ASU should be given a very close look? Also, Freider has in
effect been insulted and ignored by Faulkner. Reports I have read made it
clear that Faulkner was told in no uncertain terms to clean up his act
and avoid *any* situations that could result in more controversy. He
wasn't out of jail more than 60 hours and he was slapping his girl friend
around - he should have been dumped for being an idiot if nothing else...

>      At this point I fear scrambling to salvage
> the university's rapidly dwindling reputation is
> more important to ASU officials than due process.

 A smart move if you ask me - the school is in very tough shape in terms
of its sports programs and they need to alter the impression held by many
that things are totally out of control...


			gln




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From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: NCAA All-time leaders
Organization: ^$
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:18:21 GMT

In article <67998@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>
>>AVERAGE
>>                                                  total      per game
>>Avery Johnson      Cameron/South-BR  1986-88       838          8.91
>>...
>>
>>Hope this helps!  Note - I have no clue where Cameron or South-BR are!
>
>My almanac lists a Cameron University in Lawton, Oklahoma - it has about
>5000 students.  I've never heard of it as a Division I school, but maybe
>it was, millions of years ago.  No clue regarding what Southern-B.R.
>means...

  It means Southern University in Baton Rouge.


>
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith in SI Years Back...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:54:36 GMT

chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
>
>
>There's a lot of footwork to be mastered, amongst other things, for a
>big man to blossom on the basketball court.  Often these guys are used
>to just being taller than everyone else and not working on these skills
>too much.  Montross needed the better part of two years (and maybe more)
>to get up to speed.  I can't imagine Rashard stepping in anywhere and
>being Walton or Alcindor as a freshman.
>
>
>Gee, funny thing, Walton nor Alcindor stepped in as a freshman in the
>first place.  Maybe that Wooden guy could coach a bit.
>

Curtis!  I am surpised at you!  Neither Walton nor Alcindor played as frosh.
NCAA reg's prohibited that back then.  Still, Wooden was a hell of a coach.

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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The Sweet Sixteen...
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:17:03 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:

>Cherokee Parks can't hold Petruska's jock.

Are you sure?  Holding the other center's jock is probably more of that
*Excellent* Duke Defense we're always hearing about.

I think Utah will be in the Sweet 16, but I don't think UNLV will.

For one thing, Rick Majerus is a better coach than Rollie Massamino.

Is there enough Heresy in this post?  No?  OK - Syracuse will make it
to the second round.
--

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From: granowit@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UMASS - 1993
Date: 13 Sep 92 11:56:27 GMT

	Welcome back UMASS fans!  I just talked to the UMASS assistant
coach, John Robic.  He said the A-10 is still scheduling its games so the
official schedule will not be available for about two weeks.  This year,
the Minutemen will be on national television five times (once on ABC).
Their schedule includes Florida St., UAB, DePaul, Cincinatti, South Carolina,
Oklahoma, Clemson, and the rest of the A-10.
	The bad news is that Donta Bright, the most important recruit to 
hit Amherst since Dr. J, will have to sit out his freshman year due to prop.
42.  The good news is that Dana Dingle, a top 50 recruit, will be eligible
to play.  Coming off redshirted years will be 7'2" Jeff Meyer and 6'9" Ted
Cottrell.  Look for 6'6" Tony Barbee to move to the 2 spot and cary much
of the scoring.  The one thing UMass is missing this year is a proven point
guard.  Hopefully sophomores Mike Williams and Derrek Kellog have matured.
	Veterans back include A-10 Player of the Year Harper Williams, 
All Frosh Loe Roe, Jerome Malloy, and Kennard Robinson.  Coach Calipari has
signed a longterm contract that will keep him out of the desert for at least
another five years.  The new Mullins Center's opening is expected this 
February.  The last game at the Cage will be a midnight game.  All of us
here at UMASS missed you gArY!  Hopefully you won't run away from the vax
this year.  Cheers for ETSU!!!



"Rage in the Cage" - The hardest place in America to play a basketball game.
"Engineering Action is Fantastic!"
"Engineers design computers, computer scientists play with them."



							Scott Granowitz
							UMASS - Engineering
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: NCAA All-time leaders
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:00:36 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <1992Sep11.170709.6065@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:
>
>Ken B.
>
>P.S., for the Dookies who get agitated when their team isn't 
>mentioned in 8 out of 10 posts:  Hurley makes a lot of assists. 

	Oh, I don't mind when they're not mentioned.  However, it amuses me 
that they are frequently mentioned with such rancor by fans from New England
and the West Coast.  What's the matter, fellas?  Bitter?

	Hee, hee.

--
gharris@jade.tufts.edu          "She had ever chance for happiness, ever 
George W. Harris                chance in the world, and stomped ever one 
Dept. of Mathematics            of them chances down in the dirt like a 
Tufts University                bug."   _The Devil's Dream_
From: milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Ralph (was: Shaq's impact)
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:32:22 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep5.171928.2872@athena.cs.uga.edu> milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman) writes:
>In article <Bu2FyA.GGB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>>Pardon me, but I could swear that Sampson never made it to a Final 4.  I
>>seem to recall they made a big deal of it when UVA made it the year after
>>he left.  Anybody else know?          
>>
>>Scott
>
>The Cavs made it to the 1981 Final Four. They played UNC in the semis and James
>Worthy played the game of his life against Ralph as Carolina won by something 
>like 12 points. Just for the record, Ralph led UVA to the 1980 NIT championship
>and got in the way of the Destined 1983 NCState team in the West Region finals.
>
>					     The Rickster
>
>
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: UCLA News
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:47:47 GMT

lowood@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood) writes:

>Here we go again.  Year in, year out, UCB is supposed to be right up there
>and this or that player should make the difference.  They usually fall flat.
>Kidd, however, is not the usual brand of overhyped recruit.  He will help
>them, but not enough to take them to the top of the conference.  They will
>almost certainly be in the top half, but probably more like 3d.  Now that
>ASU is nuked, I think there will be a very competitive group consisting
>of Arizona, UCLA, Cal and then OSU, Stanford, and maybe one of the Washington
>schools (the one with Pope).  But, boy, when you lay out these teams, the
>conference looks real weak, since almost all of these schools are rebuilding.

The school with Pope would be the UW.  We should have a decent starting five,
but have no depth whatsoever.  Pope and Manning will be back, and one of our
players -- forget his name (Martin???) -- was on the Canadian olympic team
after sitting out a transfer year from one of the Oklahoma schools.  The
starting backcourt should be OK with Bryant Boston returning after missing
last year's Pac Ten season with a knee injury. We also return our starting
point guard--d*mn I got problems with names today....so the starting five
looks OK.  After that, all we got is newcomers of questionable talent.  I
see us about seventh.

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From: gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Shaq's impact
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:29:26 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <715462204@termite.cs.duke.edu> db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>(Jazzy J ) writes:
>>
>>	Just because a player doesn't lead his team too far in the NCAAS
>>	really means nothing.  The NCAA Tournament is such that on any
>>	given night, a team can beat another team.  In the NBA, there
>
>I have a hard time buying this "on any given night" theroy. It
>almost sounds like an NCAA winner is drawn at random.
>Tell that to Kareem, Walton and Ewing.

No one is saying that its 50-50.  If the best team always won then one
could predict easily who would win.  Haven't you ever played against a
chump who had the game of his life and lost.  Or if you were the chump
haven't you ever won against someone who was a better ball player.

I seem to remember Ewing being upset by one Eddie Pinckney and Harold
Pressey (?) neither of whom put together is his equal.

>Jackson, Payton and Miner (and many others) are nowhere near
>the hype level surrounding Shaquille. They can be excused for
>winning nothing. My point was that in the group of college
>big man legends (Kareem,Walton,Ewing,Russel,Robinson,Akeem,
>Sampson,Shaquille) Shaq is the only one to win nothing in
>the college level. Did LSU even win the SEC?

Add Robert Parish to the list.  He was one of the top freshmen that
year.  According to Parish the NCAA kept chasing him because he decided
to go to a black college instead.  So obviously he must have been
something.  I don't remember him accomplishing anything either.

>
>>	Still, U have to remember that in college, the Shaq was the 
>>	biggest fish in a big pond.  In the pros, he's going to have
>>	plenty of support -- in that he won't have to play the huge role
>
>I strongly disagree here. He didn't have support in college?
>What do you call Chris Jackson and Stanley Roberts?

One year as a freshman, when Chris Jackson was the man.  At the time
they went to Chris for everything but rebounds.
>
>Dov
>-- 
>An adult child of normal parents
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From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: Re: Illinois/Michigan/Syracuse pros 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:31:54 GMT

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:

>>Illinois
>>Hamilton    (plays/played in Turkey, anybody know if he still is?)
>>Bardo       (he's the 1/2 -- 1 or 2 games last year. still with Mavs?)

>	Actually, the 1 game Bardo played in the NBA last season was with
>	the San Antonio Spurs.

He was with the Mavs for the Rocky Mountain review this fall.  He had some
big games and also a 0-9 or something.  I was just wondering if he was
still working with Dallas or if he is bouncing around with other teams.

Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
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From: jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be)
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith (Purdue? Wisconsin?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:46:27 GMT

A silly little thing ran through my head when Griffith and King lost to
Westinghouse in the Chicago City Finals back in March, as he childishly
pouted and moaned while leaving the court...

"Rashard, Rashard, Rashard... My God, you're such a card"

And to think some people actually cast Illinois' "Mr. Basketball" ballots for
him...

-- 
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From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Repeat: Need UMASS!!! Schedule ;-)
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:27:43 GMT



I *said* I need the UMASS!!! ;-) Minutemen schedule.......Any knowledgeable 
bball fan out there knows it ???? If so, please post it...


			Thank you ('n *no* woofing ;-))..

				Rajat....


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From: navy@iastate.edu (Scott V Rivera)
Subject: Re: The Sweet Sixteen...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:24:48 GMT

>Nebraska ???

Although it was a fluke, they did beat Iowa State.  Put a big vote out for
the cyclones this year.  "They're only sophomores."

The real test comes when they play Michigan.

Scott Rivera
navy@iastate.edu

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith (Purdue? Wisconsin?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:44:44 GMT

sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:

>I'm probably the only Illini fan who thinks that Illinois doesn't need 
>Griffith at center.  I'm looking forward to Garris, Hester, Thames and Smith
>gracing the basketball court for Illinois next year.  Griffith would just
>slow the team down, like Jens Kujawa would have if he had returned for his
>senior year (final 4 team).  Give me a physical 6'9" post man who can rebound
>and play tough defense and I'm a happy camper.

        Now that I think about it -- I don't think it would be in Rashard
        Griffith's best interest to come to Illinois.  Think about it -- who
        was the last great big man to come out of Champaign/Urbana?  All
        of the great players Lou has come out of his program were stellar
        forwards, guards, or swingmen.  The list including Eddie Johnson,
        Derek Harper, Ken Norman, Kendall Gill, etc...  all forwards or
        guards.  Illini teams are based upon versatility and athletic ability,
        and they've thrived on those for years...

        Jazzy J
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From: wgr@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: Ralph (was: Shaq's impact)
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:52:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.171928.2872@athena.cs.uga.edu> milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman) writes:
>>Pardon me, but I could swear that Sampson never made it to a Final 4.  I
>>seem to recall they made a big deal of it when UVA made it the year after
>>he left.  Anybody else know?          
>
>The Cavs made it to the 1981 Final Four. They played UNC in the semis and James
>Worthy played the game of his life against Ralph as Carolina won by something 
>like 12 points. Just for the record, Ralph led UVA to the 1980 NIT championship
>and got in the way of the Destined 1983 NCState team in the West Region finals.

I don't remember how well Worthy played against UVa in the 1981 semifinal,
but it was Al Wood who had the game of his life with 39 points.  The best
game of Worthy's college career was probably the 1982 championship game when
he had 28.
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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: Cal News (was: UCLA News)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date:  9 Sep 92 21:36:06 GMT

kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:

[ About Cal in Oakland ]

>Well, they cleverly scheduled Sacramento State there Dec. 1 to try
>to decimate that monkey once and for all. First official game of
>the year.

>They also play Wake Forest, UCLA and Arizona at the Coliseum. At
>3:00 on Mar 6, the team will be there ready to take on any 5 
>students from Arizona State who a) still have NCAA eligibility
>b) are healthy enough to play, and c) happen to be in town. 

Hmmm.  Cal could easily go 2-3 in these games (I'm generously giving
them Sac. State and ASU, who will probably have to dress the proverbial 
dead donkey for the game.

I'm kind of disappointed that there'll be no Stanford game this year (in
Oakland).  I was looking forward to coming up for the game.

For Ronnie Smith:
  I had a dream last night.  To increase parity, the NCAA has decided to
  make some coaching switches.  Bill Frieder will take over a Duke, with
  Krzyzewski moving to ASU (now we'll see how good a coach he *really* is).
  Further, Guy Lewis will come out of retirement and take over at Michigan.
--

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA News
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:01:41 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <matthew.715973577@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>The LA Times reported that UCLA finished up their Italian tour with a 5-4
>record.  "Mr." Ed O'Bannon scored 29 in their final win.

Sounds good, but we all know Ed will never be a star until he learns to hit
his free throws.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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Subject: Some Purdue Notes
From: foster@pa621a.inland.com
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:39:07 CDT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: foster

Purdue's team scrimmaged at 11:00am before the PU-Cal football game...
no coaches around.  I think Painter was in charge of one team.  Its the
first I'd seen of some of those guys.  Some observations:

.  Glenn Robinson, quite a player after a years layoff, had a bunch of
   slams, snazzy passes and 3-pointers.  Slightly rusty compared
   with high school - could stand to lose 10 lbs (has a newly-
   acquired bucket): Keady will certainly help with this.  Upper body
   stronger, though.  A real team player, constantly passing
   off and shooting in the flow.
.  Porter Roberts imho is for real.  About 6-3 he'll be the point guard
   Purdue's been looking for.  Super quick hands, must have had 5-6 steals,
   good driver, excellent passer, and smooth outside shot.  Was constanly 
   frustrating Todd Foster, who was trying to guard him.  In spite of quick 
   penetrations, always in control, with some nice dish-offs.  Smart player.
.  Justin Jennings.  Keady's quote as "a small Glenn Robinson" isn't far
   off.  About 6-6, excellent driver and a decent shot; great leaper.
   He and Cuonzo Martin will have some interesting duels for quality PT.
   Actually, if he has a consistent outside shot, would make a good 2G.
.  Kenny Williams.  Quick around the basket with some good moves.  Seems
   shorter than 6-9 though; has to improve his close-in shooting.
.  Herb Dove.  has matured some, and improved his jumper.  Real quick,
   great leaper, had a couple nice slams.
.  Cuonzo Martin.  Qicker and stronger; knee seems healed.  Nice moves,
   made a baseline move on Darner like he wasn't there.
.  Brandon Brantley.  Coming on strong.  Improving inside game and very
   tenacious.  Keady says his red-shirt depends on how McNary comes through.
.  Ian Stanback.  Improved over the summer, lost some weight, a force inside.
.  Scott Colonna.  Blew out his knee over the summer when Stanback fell on
   him. medical redshirt.

   (a note: According to the Chicago Trib, Purdue's in the Final 4 for 7-0 
    Rashard Griffith, because of his friendship with Robinson and Assistant
    Frank Kendrick.)

Overall it was pretty shocking to see such quickness on a Purdue team.
The vets seemed even slower than last year because of who they were playing
against.  They haven't had much pre-season pub, but by mid-season, can't see
them being below top-15.  They're very talented, versatile with some great
athletes, and excellent role-players.  Purdue fans are in for a real 
treat... can't anybody out there help them with their homework?
-- 
..dave
foster@pa621a.inland.com
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From: foerster@zman.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Subject: Re: Cream-puffiness
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:47:18 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1992Sep2.164019.11496@rtsg.mot.com>, thmpsnmc@snoopy7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson) writes:
|> Over the years I have observed that some schedules are effected by teams 
|> cancelling agreements for portions of an existing series .  Example this 
|> year both Depaul and Marquette pulled out of the games with Kansas.  
|> This left Kansas with two holes in their schedule that could not be filled by 
|> teams of equal caliber.  I believe that both teams sited the increased 

Ah, so that's why you scheduled Indiana at the Hoosier Dome this year.

[other ramblings deleted]

|> 
|> 			Craig Thompson

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