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From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Quest for Refresh
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:44:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
 muohio.edu> <92270.164344JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET> <66704@cup.portal.com>
  <92272.202908JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>

OK, I still think it's a lot of club considering the distance to the green.
A 'C would be tough to get, but how about Action! for a 65816? I don't
know if you've seen the run time package yet, but it's just code blocks that
relocate/duplicate the routines that are built into the cartridge. All that
would be required is to recode them for the 65816. There's a public domain
cross assembler (TASM) that you would just have to add the extra op codes to.
It's table driven so that's easy enough.
I guess by application I mean something a little more dedicated & novel then
something that just does an existing operation better. For instance,
something like a log engine. Have enough memory so you could keep the entire
log tables in memory & maybe something silly like 74ls559's(#?) that do
multiplication for when you have to raise something to a power. Or turning
an Atari into a tool, like the cable people do for their broadcast.
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Saturday, 26 Sep 1992 16:53:10 EST
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: xf highspeed 80DS

Rick,

Yeah, my drive uses the Innovative  Concepts kit, which is basically the
Woolley modification.  4.19 won't even read/write high speed past
40 tracks?

Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: How can I print faster?
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:08:33 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <92270.164125JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>, Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:
> Ryan,
> 
> Set up the data you want to send to the printer in a String.
> Then do a BPUT #1,ADR(a$),len(a$)

     Ok, I'll try to try it tonight.

> that is fast as it gets, what kind of interface are you using?
> 
> Jeff McWilliams

     I'm using a Supra Parallel interface. I don't think its the
bottleneck, since using Print Power it prints a lot faster than my
program.

     Thanks!

Later.......

------======={{{{{{{{((((((Ryan 'Gozar' Collins))))))))}}}}}}}}=======--------
"You can never own enough /    __    ___  ___  \rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
computer equipment"      /    /  /  /  /    /   \RC1DSANU@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
                        /    / _   /  /   /      \rcollins@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu
 |||   "Power Without  /    /__/  /__/  /___      \  R.COLLINS1 on GEnie
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	    ------======={{{{{{{{(((((())))))))}}}}}}}}=======-----  28-SEP-1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: How can I print faster?
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 25 Sep 92 14:01:52 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

     I'm writing an envelope program in Turbo Basic, and it prints
sideways so it is easier to load envelope. So, I'm doing everything in
graphics mode, and it is slower then molassess. Right now I "OPEN" the
printer, and then use PRINT #1; to output to the printer. Even compiled
and with the screen off it is still too slow. Does anyone have a faster
method?

     I'm using the built in character set for the font, so does anyone
else have some standard atari fonts they could send me? I want to be
able to use multiple fonts. (Which will be trivial to add.)

     Thanks!!!!!

Later.......

------======={{{{{{{{((((((Ryan 'Gozar' Collins))))))))}}}}}}}}=======--------
"You can never own enough /    __    ___  ___  \rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
computer equipment"      /    /  /  /  /    /   \RC1DSANU@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
                        /    / _   /  /   /      \rcollins@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu
 |||   "Power Without  /    /__/  /__/  /___      \  R.COLLINS1 on GEnie
/ | \     The Price"  /                            \
	    ------======={{{{{{{{(((((())))))))}}}}}}}}=======-----  25-SEP-1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: TextPro 5.0x
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:24:12 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-22744]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu

Just sent to the Atari Archives, the beta release of Textpro 5.0x by
Ronnie Richie.  Update doc's are included with the archive.  

Please report any and all bugs to this address, I'll pass them along to
Ronnie.

If you are unabel to download from the archive, drop me a line E-mail and
I7ll send you a copy.

Mike...
Atari Archive
Louisiana
From: pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Upgrading my 810 and ALT.Atari.8bit.Binarys
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:33:54 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Oct1.155616.8562@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester) writes:
>
>The Happy upgrade for the 810 drive does _not_ allow it to read/write
>SS/DD disk formats.  Everything remains the same except for its ability to
>copy disks.  It will read and write faster also.
>I have one installed in mine.

Are there more than one chip version for the 810?  I could swear that the
enhanced 810 I saw wrote in 180K since that was a major selling point of
the drive...

Sam


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From: pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Null Modem Cable
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:20:02 GMT


To hook up a null modem cable between an atari and an IBM is a generic
pre-made cable okay to use or do you have to build one?  I am using the P:R:
port R2: for this so I have the pinout for it in the manual but what would
be the pin configuration for the IBM serial 9 pin port?  

I hope that you can just use commercial cables as I am tired of building the
things.  I got my P:R: to work with both the modem and the printer by building
cables so thanks to all who replied with help or ideas on the subject....

I think that it would be a whole lot easier to d/l arc'ed files to my clone
then null modem them to the atari since the clone can save to hard disk and
also has a faster modem... I know Bobterm supports 9600 baud rate.  Anyone 
try this between the two successfully???

Sam

Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.8bit:4845 comp.lang.logo:263
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,comp.lang.logo
Subject: Re: Logo or Docs
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 08:54:15 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Try B&C ComputerVision @(408)986-9960
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Quest for Refresh
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:14:30 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <92270.164344JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>, Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:
> It would be nice to at least have something to support the 65816 card
> that Dataque sells.  There's no programming language for it, or anything.
> Am I the only one left on the face of this earth who's interested
> in running a 16 bit CPU in my 8 bit? Am I really all alone?
> 
> Jeff McWilliams

      I would be interested too, as you know from my discussions with
you about your Dataque board. Didn't/Doesn't Dataque sell a cross
compiler for ms-dos that produces 65816? What happen to their C Language
for the 8-bits?

Later.......

------======={{{{{{{{((((((Ryan 'Gozar' Collins))))))))}}}}}}}}=======--------
"You can never own enough /    __    ___  ___  \rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
computer equipment"      /    /  /  /  /    /   \RC1DSANU@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
                        /    / _   /  /   /      \rcollins@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu
 |||   "Power Without  /    /__/  /__/  /___      \  R.COLLINS1 on GEnie
/ | \     The Price"  /                            \
	    ------======={{{{{{{{(((((())))))))}}}}}}}}=======-----  28-SEP-1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: blk@mitre.org (Brian L. Kahn)
Subject: Wanted - carts w/ children's games, 400/800
Organization: The MITRE Corp. Bedford, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:10:31 GMT


I've got an Atari 400 with junk for games.  Since the atari takes
carts, my 4 yr old is able to work the system - but I don't have
anything she wants to play.  Anyone have some old carts for sale?

--
B<   Brian Kahn   blk@mitre.org   "may the farce be with you"

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: Re: P:R: Connection Help
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:25:33 GMT

In article <9209300546.AA12313@beethoven> pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton) writes:
>I recently pruchased a P:R: Connection second hand and have been having 
>problems hooking it up...  Afew questions for anyone out there that can
>provide me with some help...
>
>1) Do you have to write an R: handler for each individual modem?  I thought

The handler is built in, use RS232.sys or rs232.com to "boot" the P:R:
connection and read the ROM into memory.  Your atari will make a familiar tone
through the monitor speaker as the P:R: Conn. boots.

>2) Concerning cables... Is it best to build your own or do standard IBM cables
>for connecting RS232 devices work.  I bought a Male 25 pin to Male 9 pin to
>hook up this beast but I am not sure that the pins are correct for the P:R:.
>I guess I am asking ... Is the P:R: connection pinout config. match that of 
>standard cables?

I made my own serial cables, so I don't recall if they were like "standard"
cables. (I had never seen a 9 pin to 25 pin cable at that age)  The cable IS
"standard for an atari 8-bit" in the sense it's the same cable you'd use for
an Atari 850 interface.

>3) Are these 15 pin to centronics printer pinned cables still commercially
>available or are they also a build only type item ( I haven't had a chance
>to look into availability of these yet. )

Same goes as for the serial cable.

>4) What do you use the RS232.SYS file on the P:R: Connection disk for if the
>hardware already has a built in driver??

See 1) above.  RS232.SYS is (as I recall) an Atari DOS 2.0 file, but EVERY Dos
I've seen has an rs232.* file that will boot your P:R: connection (same file
that boots an 850).  Some software will boot your P:R: Connection as well.  I
think Express 850 did that (w/o using a rs232.sys file).

Good luck Sam!
  jc
From: ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino)
Subject: Re: Video game list
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:32:44 GMT


         CLOSEOUT CARTRIDGES
(*-DENOTES NEW CARTS ON LIST)
New Atari 2600 and 7800 cartridges $1.50 to $3.50 each.  Still in sealed packages.
Leave e-mail to this message if interested.
 
       7800         Serial #    Price
       ----         --------    -----
*Barnyard Blaster   cx7849      $3.50
*Impossible Mission cx7832       3.50
Robotron:2084       cx7809       3.50
Crossbow            cx7844       3.50
Donky Konk Jr.      cx7849       3.50
One on One BasketB. cx7824       3.50
Pole Position II    cx7808       3.50
Hat Trick           cx7829       3.50
Donky Kong          cx7848       3.50
Dig Dug             cx7803       2.50
Tower Toppler       cx7856       3.50
Ace of Aces         cx7846       3.50
Jinks               cx7857       3.50
Joust               cx7806       2.50
Centipede           cx7801       2.50
Ball Blazer         cx7815       2.50
Xevious             cx7818       2.50
Crack'ed            cx7836       3.50
Dark Chambers       cx7837       2.50
Asteroids           cx7802       3.50
Karateka            cx7822       1.50
Touch Football      cx7823       2.50
Fight Night         cx7851       2.50
 
       2600         Serial #    Price
       ----         --------    -----
Secret Quest        cx26170     $3.50
Super Football      cx26154      3.50
Graviar             cx2685       3.50
Battle Zone         cx2681       2.50
Asteroids           cx2649       3.50
Venture             cx26135      3.50
Space Invaders      cx2632       3.50
Crossbow            cx26139      3.50
Crystal Castles     cx26110      3.50
Jr. Pac-Man         cx26123      3.50
Moon Patrol         cx2692       3.50
Sprint Master       cx26155      3.50
Ms. Pac-Man         cx2675       3.50
Realsports Football cx2668       3.50
Pole Plsition       cx2694       3.50
Centipede           cx2676       3.50
Solaris             cx26136      3.50
Desert Falcon       cx26140      2.50
Kangaroo            cx2689       3.50
Super Breakout      cx2608       3.50
Galaxian            cx2684       3.50
Realsports Baseball cx2640       2.50
Vangard             cx2669       3.50
Double Dunk BasketB.cx26159      2.50
Q*Bert              cx26150      3.50
 
Orders of 1-7 carts you pay shipping
          8+ carts same as 7 carts
All orders COD or send Money Order for total plus $3/1-3 carts; $6/4-7 carts.
Specify Parcel Post or UPS.
Please send e-mail [R]eply.
-- 
Joe Sabatino-->ab588@yfn.ysu.edu
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SIO2PC ... What is it??
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:54:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct2.175453.5453
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <kspeicht.35.718030638@kilcom1.ucis.dal.ca> kspeicht@kilcom1.ucis.dal.ca (Kevin F. Speichts) writes:
>	Some one mentioned that there is a program called sio2pc.  This 
>program supposedly is loaded on the pc and allows msdos to write to an 
>ataridos disk (I hope 88k 810 format).  The files transferred are then able 
>to be read by the atari.

>	Is there a program out there that does this?  If so has anyone used 
>it and how well does it fly??

I've been using SIO2PC for some time and am extremely happy with it.
It is not, however, what you seem to think it is...

First of all, I do not believe that there exists any program that will allow
you to read or write single density (90K 810 format) or enhanced density
(130?K 1050 format) disks on a non-Atari machine.  Please correct me if
someone knows better [My 1050 died, and I really need to copy off those
enhanced density disks].

Now what SIO2PC does is let you use your PC as a fileserver for your Atari.
It is a combination of a hardware device and software for the PC.  The
hardware device plugs into the Atari like any disk drive would and plugs
into your PC through the serial port.  Your PC then runs a program that
interprets the Atari (SIO) signals and responds appropriately to make the
Atari think that it is whatever drive you want it to look like.  I have
most of my stuff on one "disk" which is actually an 8meg file on my PC's
hard drive.

--PC

--
preston.crow@dartmouth.edu
crow@nes.nersc.gov
by008@cleveland.freenet.edu
crow@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: insomnia@carson.u.washington.edu (Ryan Klemmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: High Scores
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:07:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct5.060732.13715
Organization: University of Washington

I only have one of those games (pac-man) and doubt I did that good.  I would
like to add that I've hit scores of 60,000+ on donkey kong.  Anybody else
have scores that high?  The only reason I ask, is that I once read a review
of the game, and the guy said he could barely get 30,000.  I thought I did
pretty good. 

So everybody, prove me wrong :)

ryan

p.s. And other scores for other games would be nice as well.  So gloat 
     everybody.
From: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Need info on connecting a RGB monitor to an 800
Date: 30 Sep 1992 04:25:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bldaniel@unccsun.uncc.edu (Brian Daniels) says:

>
>
>I've got two questions...
> 
>First, is it possible to hook up a RGB monitor to an Atari 800,
>and if so--what is the pinout of the 800's monitor connector?

Whoever posts an answer to this question automatically wins a section in
the FAQ List!
-- 
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   The Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG is the Central Atari Information Network
      Internet: currentm@carleton.edu / UUCP: ...!umn-cs!ccnfld!currentm
     BITNET: currentm%carleton.edu@{interbit} / Cleveland Free-Net: aa700
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:11:51 EDT
From: The 8-bit Ruler <AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: 1050 upgrade?????????

  You will need to purchase the US doubler made by ICD..thought no longer
available from them...
   ask around..its just a rom chip and some ram...
__________________________________________________________________________
Ah, love could you and I with fate conspire
to grasp the sorry scheme of things entire,
Would not we shatter it to bits, and then
re-mold it nearer to our heart's desire!    - Omar Khayyam
__________________________________________________________________________
From: pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Upgrading my 810 and ALT.Atari.8bit.Binarys
Date: 2 Oct 92 06:54:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Oct2.054102.469@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester) writes:

>I still think you must be thinking of the 1050 version or the
>never-to-be-seen "Turbo 810" product that I mentioned before.
>
>Uncle Fester

I think that maybe the guy with the drive just wanted to sell it real bad.
Some people will try to turn a buck anyway they can.

At least there are people on here ( comp.sys.atari.8bit ) that are 
knowledgable enough to remember all of this upgrade stuff and fill in the 
rest of us... ( at least me )

Sam


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From: djg0@aber.ac.uk (Dean John Garraghty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: The future?
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:25:39 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

An article by Brian Walker on his experiences with the 8-bit Atari, and his 
worries for the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

It is my tenth anniversary. The tenth anniversary of me owning an Atari 
computer.

For a ridiculously high price I bought an Atari 800 with 16K and then had to 
go back to the shop to buy the optional cassette deck when I discovered most 
programs were on cassette.

I paid so much because I knew I was buying the best, and anyway I was going to 
'learn about computers', a requirement for the future. I also wanted to 
progress, so I upgraded to 32K and then 48K, then bought an 800XL, then a disk 
drive and then two disk drives.

But by this time the 8-bit Atari market was rapidly contracting and I realized 
that the future of computing lay somewhere else. So I packed away my 800XL and 
bought an Atari ST. Luckily I bought a cheap ex-demo model from an electrical 
store and didn't spend too much money on it before I put it to one side and 
unpacked my 8-bit.

In common with many people I discovered that much of the software was very 
expensive, the graphics were pretty and the gameplay was non-existant. Maybe 
things have changed.

Anyway I could now get an 130XE for a ridiculously LOW price and a cheap 
printer, which I did. At the same time a lot of software became available 
which was previously unobtainable in the U.K., or was too expensive.

So, have I learnt a lot about computing? Well, er, no. I soon succumbed to 
playing games and every time I reached over to pick up my copy of 'Atari 
Basic:A Self-Teaching Guide' by Albrecht, Finkel and Brown, Star Raiders 
seemed to be in the way and I've spent the last ten years playing games.

Why don't I progress and buy a Nintendo home arcade machine or whatever? Well, 
I'm using a word processor to write this and I'm enjoying the experience. I'm 
now ready to learn about computers and computing, slowly, at my own pace and I 
want to learn on my Atari 130XE.

I can't learn on a Nintendo, the 16-bit ST and Amiga are too complicated and I 
don't have access to a PC at work. Anyway, even if I had the money to buy one 
for home use there seems to be so many varieties I wouldn't know which one to 
choose.

Hopefully, my Atari is good for a few more years yet but what after that? 
There will come a time when there are no more spare parts or replacements and 
I will have to buy something else. What will it be? Will there be anything 
else besides low cost games machines and high cost business machines? Whatever 
it is I bet it isn't an Atari. That will be quite a wrench.

If you have an idea of what might be on offer in a few years time please drop 
Dean a line. Maybe he could include it in the News-Disk. I would be very 
interested to read your predictions and I bet a lot of other people would as 
well.
From: djg0@aber.ac.uk (Dean John Garraghty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: ALL MICRO SHOW 6
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:03:17 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


                            ALL MICRO SHOW 6


                   BINGLEY HALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND


                 SATURDAY, 14th NOVEMBER 1992, 10a.m.


This is THE show to attend for Atari 8-bit support and products. This is a
general show and radio rally, but the Atari makes up a lot of the show. 
Exhibitors for the Atari include: Dean Garraghty, Page 6, Micro Discount,
Gralin International, BaPAUG.

If you're in England around this time, come along to Stafford, or even make
a special journey across. You'll be glad you did! If you need further details
please email: djg0@aber.ac.uk.