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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:36:00 EST
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From:         Bill Long <LONGWJ@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inovation Where You Find it...

>From: THE END IS NIE! <RHYSLING@PHOENIX.BITNET>
>
>[two paragraphs about George Dyson's canoe building techniques deleted]

Neat!  Has this person written any books detailing his work?  If so could
you please forward references to me?

>Add one more nifty idea to the dome pile.
>It will not help much.
>
>Why?  Why are domes not poping up all over?
>Why have I not made one?
>
>For me, the answer is simple: NO LAND.
>I can conceptualize all day, sketch out neet dezines, make plans...
>but untill I have a piece of earth to call my own, I will never make one...

But aren't you in california, the land of the commune?  Is it not possible
to find people there with similar interests and lifestyles and combine your
resources to get some land...or find someone willing to let you try out
your ideas on their land?  In the meantime you could build scale models
that would help you work out any bugs in your designs and would also give
you something to show to people that you're trying to demonstrate your
ideas to.

>Round where I live, a 50x70 ft lot runs for 65 thousand $$$, starting...
>I, if I could find full time employment, at say, $5 an hour, 40 hrs a week,
>in about 15 YEARS I could afford to by a lot...assueming I forsake all other
>dreams...
>
>Add in building costs...however minimal...
>That dream is too distant, too far away.

Low-cost housing starts with low-cost building lots.  I mean, it would make
no sense to build a dome in NYC but there are areas AROUND the city where
lot sizes are larger and more affordable and not too far to commute if you
had to.  Is it that much different in California?  I don't know what skills
you have or what you do, but don't set your sights too low.  You have at
your disposal one of the most powerful analitical tools known to man...the
human mind!  If you can't find work where you are and the cost of living is
so high then what is keeping you there?  And remember, without your ideas
and dreams what good would money be to you anyway...it'll keep you fed and
warm and in the same old rut...alive but empty.

>I am very pore.  This may not be your case.
>If you are not, I say to you:  Why are you not LIVING YOUR DREAM?
>If it is making domes, DO IT!  Others will say "Neet, could I do that?"
>or "By God, stand back, that thing looks dangerouse!"
>Eather way, you will have done it.  If you have the means by which to
>change your ideas into reality, do it.
>
>I envy you.

PLEASE!  I have a good job and own land but its not as simple as that.  I
recently left my wife (my decision) so now I have 29 acres of land that I
pay for but don't really have access to.  After I make my mortgage payment
and pay the bills and put gas in my vehicle and eat I've got squat, and it
was because I had VERY LITTLE MONEY that I had to build a small dome to
store my stuff in.  Adversity can sometimes be the motivating factor.  If I
had lots of money to burn I might just have bought one or two of those steel
storage buildings for my junk and let it go at that.  I assume you eat and
pay rent somewhere...have you ever added up how much that rent amounts to
each year?  That's what I used to do for years, while I worked at low
paying jobs and couldn't save money as fast as the real-estate market
seemed to be inflating...it was very frustrating.  When I bought my
property I thought my troubles would be over now that I was a land-owner
but life has a way of throwing you a curve just when you're ready for a
fastball.

>If you do not, do as I must, and strive for the means to change your status,
>and that of those around you.
>
>In the meanwhile, untell I can afford a place to call Home, I keep listening
>here, and keep my little dreams alive...I hope yours fair well.
>
>C.R LeFay

You must keep ALL your dreams alive...the big ones as well, and keep
striving on ALL fronts.  Sure you will attain the small dreams sooner but
remember that if you truly want something then it is worth all your sweat,
agravation, and time until you finally achieve it and as long as you don't
give up achieve it you will!

>***********************
>Rhysling@Euclid.Humboldt.Edu
>Po Box 942
>Arcata,
>Ca, 95521
>No Phone/No home
>:I
>***********************

Bill Long    longwj@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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