HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wfolsom@star-trek.bbn.com (Wayne Folsom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Train Lyrics
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:55:30 GMT
Reply-To: wfolsom@BBN.COM (Wayne Folsom)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: archive.bbn.com

Here's a few I found doing a text search on the lyrics document that you can
FTP from gdead.src.umd.edu:

Mystery Train
New Speedway Boogie
The Night They Drove Ole Dixie Down
Promised Land
Simple Twist Of Fate
Smokestack Lightnin
Tennessee Jed
Terrapin Station
They Love Each Other
100,000 Tons Of Steel
Visions of Johanna
Masterpiece
He's Gone
Monkey and the ENgineer
Ballad of Casey Jones
Casey Jones
Beat it On Down The Line
Big Railroad Blues
Dark Hollow
Early Morning Rain
Green, Green Grass of Home
How Long Blues
I Know You Rider
It's a Mans World
Takes a Lot To Laugh
Jack Straw
Kansas City
Last Train To Jacksonville
Little Sadie
Mama Tried
Me And Bobby McGee
Might As Well

Of course these are not all originals
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From: ledlow@triton.unm.edu
Subject: concerts not selling out
Reply-To: ledlow@triton.unm.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:35:44 GMT

Hello!

   My first show (2/6/79) in Tulsa, OK had only about 2200 people in attendance.
The pavillion there holds about 8-10 thousand, not really sure, but there were
a LOT of empty seats.  

--michael


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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: the perennial subject of donna and keith
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:36:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.225523.2627@vicorp.com> mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous) writes:

>
>And for the record, I think Donna didn't have a clue as to what vocal
>harmony is about. I've just been listening to an old Winterland, 11-10-73.
>Her vocals are downright awful, and off-key to boot.
>

Well, I think a large part of this is a problem the whole band used to have
(no, not heroin). SHE COULDNT HEAR HERSELF. I bet if she came on and sang
with the new monitorless system, she'd sound waaayyy better. My problem
was less with Donna's voice than with her overall poor sense of musicality--
most of the time her Scarlet 'jams' were just plain boring, and she really
wrote/arranged some STINKERS, like "France" on Shakedown. Although I dont
think shes credited with this song, it bears a heavy stamp of her cheesey
touch.

I do like Sunrise, though.

-rob


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From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: Re: the perennial subject of donna and keith
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:55:23 GMT

wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:

>>Ever notice how the piano is by far the loudest instrumnent in those 
>>recordings? And right up front,too.

>	Well, the _shows_ sounded fine.  Too bad the tapes suck.

My point exactly. The problem is that the board tapes sound *nothing*
like the sound that came off the stage. If you ever get a chance,
do an A/B test on a decent audience tape with a board from any 73 or 74
show. It's criminal! 

In particular I remember when I got the board of 6-9-73. I had a crummy
unbalanced mix audience tape fro years, and tho the quality was poor,
the musical intensity came thru. Then I got the board.
It didn't even sound like the same show.
My point is that if there hadn't been any piano, the board tapes would 
sound OK, but as  weknow, keyboards have to be turned up in the monitors
because the guitars are so loud. Same for vocals.

>							the wharf rat

And for the record, I think Donna didn't have a clue as to what vocal
harmony is about. I've just been listening to an old Winterland, 11-10-73.
Her vocals are downright awful, and off-key to boot.

--Mark
From: reb@ingres.com (Phydeaux)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dale, the Porsche Guy (was: First and LAST visit to a Grateful Dead Concert.)
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:01:19 GMT
Reply-To: reb@ingres.com
Organization: The Internet

bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
|FIRST AND LAST EXPERIENCE AT A "DEAD-HEAD" CONCERT
|==================================================
|
|A few years ago some friends of mine decided to take me to a dead-head concert.
|I had never been to one and knew little about the Grateful Dead.  They bought
|a ticket for me so how could I refuse?  I asked them what songs the Dead wrote
|that made it to top-40, but the ones they mentioned were unfamiliar to me.  I
<stuff deleted>
|"What kind of man would bring a Porsche to a dead-head concert?"
<stuff deleted>

Yes, this  is the one  and only "Dale the Porsche  Guy"  story.   It's
about 5 years old by now, so let's not have a huge argument  about it,
okay?
				reb
From: ST702459@brownvm.brown.edu (Jordan Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Guitar Gods & Ice-T
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:20:27 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

I'll kill a couple things that have been on my mind at once:

To all those discussing who is the best guitar player, all those mentioned
are certainly great (that guy from Phish being the possible exception),
but come on: Michael Hedges is in a league of his own. I suppose its
kind of like comparing apples and oranges, and Garcia is certainly...
indescribable, but Hedges wins out on the technique and soul counts, hands
down.

Censorship: I haven't seen anything about this yet (may be just a slow
feed), but I see that Ice-T pulled his cop killer song. Couple comments:
(as always, I welcome reasoned, non-hostile dissension) My take on the
issue is that a) he did it of his own free will (the record companies
and he both agreed that now corporate pressure was brought to bear) b) he
did it in response to a group of people who said that they would prefer it
if he didn't advocate their death (ie police officers, who, while I have
had frequent cause to doubt this, are human too) and c) its still available,
just not on the album: he's giving it away as a single.
Sooooo: before people start decrying this as censorship, I'd like to
opine that this is just a case of democracy in action: people said that
it was bad, and he listened, thought about it, and said OK.

Dat's all folks...

J
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From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: Eagle vs. The East Coast
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:31:13 GMT


	Seems to me that if Eagle was as against The Heroin Dealers / Pimps
as he should have been, he would have seen to it that they were turned in to
The Proper Authorities.  ie. BUST THE SCUM!!!  Tell me that Heroin Dealers
don't exist on the west coast.... get real.  I am so sick of this garbage
attitude of west coast superirity.  New York City residents didn't loot 
riot or burn down their city like the scum of LA.  The east coast has nothing
to rival LA's smog.  Now I'll go up to the Adirondack mountains and hide 
there until the dead visit Lake Placid or Montreal again.  Then I'll find
a computer to send a bozed out, rambling, disgustingly sexist authortarian
account of the show and the world will be a better place for all.
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From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Subject: Re: In defense of the Gores
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:05:55 GMT

In <geoff.39@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Geoff Wells) writes:
>For all of you out there that care, here is the full text of the First
>Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

>  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
>  prohibiting the free exercise therof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
>  or the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to 
>  petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It's always nice to go back to the source document.

Now we only have to figure out what it means.  :-)

Andrew
From: ckqh909s@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: More Gorey Details
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:15:39 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

I don't remember seeing this one on the net:  In todays Miami Herald, Tipper
admitted buying the Europe '72 CD this month (my question is what took her so
long, and does she trade tapes?).  Her real name is Mary Elizabeth.  We know
someone who works for a Congressman.  He said that Al Gore bought 100 copies of
Deadicated for all the Senators.  Maybe we will be seeing Al at the Cap shows
next fall.

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From: rafael@cats.ucsc.edu (David Konerding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: mail order to veneta problem
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:13:41 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



	Heya.  I mail ordered to Veneta first day- money order, card, SASE
everything included in my mail order package.  It was my first time mail
ordering.  Unfortunately, I've gotten nothing from them yet and I'm plenty
worried that I must have made some sort of gross mistake.  I called the
mail-order-problem line and just got a "how to mail order" message, the
same one I already knew.  Is there a way to get a Real Live Dead Person
on the other end of the line who can tell me what the status of my order
is?  I'd be pretty darn pissed if I didn't get tickets to Veneta because my
mail order was screwed up slightly even though I followed the instructions
to the letter- furthermore since I didn't get a receipt from the post office
when I paid for the money order, I'd be doubly pissed if I didn't get the
tickets and had to eat the $100+ I sent for my tickets!

	What is my best method of finding out what happened?
From: durham@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Terri Durham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: grovel...grovel....need sunday veneta!!!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:57:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.40590
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR



    hi all!  i can't believe that tickets sold out that fast.
   i'm in dire need for 2 sunday tickets.  let me know if any
   fellow heads can help out........ i'm bummed!

  

    peace, terri
From: ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net (Jannette Pazer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Need email addrs for missing people
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet

Hi, sorry for the personal-type stuff.
Does anyone have a working email address for the following people?
My mail is bouncing back from their email addresses given to me on tape
trees:

Eric Harbert: HARBEREF@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
Neil Berkman: neil.berkman@blue.adp.wisc.edu 
	 	or neil.berkman@mail.admin.wisc.edu


Thanks...

-- 
Jannette Wing Pazer 		* 	IBM Kingston - "tangled up in Blue"
		No direct internet access, only uunet. 
uunet:
   uunet!panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette
internet:
   panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.UU.NET
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From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: HOT Donna Shows!
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:47:16 GMT


For a truly hot version of _Music_Never_Stops_ featuring
beautiful vocals by the truly lovely Donna Jean,
check out Broome County Arena, Binghampton NY on November 11, 1977!

Of course my personal favorite is from the Europe 72 Tour
where all she does is scream during Playing In THe Band:

"If a man among you has no sin upon his hand,
 then let him cast a stone at me for playing in the band!"

My personal Theory on this is that Donna-Bashers are the
same people you see at shows singing along in the worst
off-key voices you've ever heard!

Steve-TOO
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From: dlw@truth.uucp (Weissman)
Subject: Late Fall Jerry tour???
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:21:04 GMT


The Boston Globe yseterday (7/30) had a picture of Jerry
with a blurb on the upcomming Garden shows.  They mentioned
the probable August 29th Ticketmaster on sale date and they
also talked about JGB dates in the area (Worcester and
Providence) in November.  Anyone else heard about another
late fall Jerry tour of the east?

Good luck with mail order

-Dan


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From: ADAMS@uncg.bitnet
Subject: Thanks to Mark Cooper
Reply-To: ADAMS@uncg.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:34:07 GMT

Thanks for the article on Deadhead probe.  I would really appreciate
receiving articles on this topic (LSD arrrests) from others.  Rebecca
ADams, Sociology Department, UNCG, Greensboro, NC  27412.
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From: Ellen Buckley <eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu>
Subject: Re:  East Cost
Reply-To: eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:52:45 GMT

i'm sorry, everybody, for wasting your time with this, but when somebody 
needlessly attacks my home i get a little defensive.  

and i'm sorry too, eagle, if you've had some bad east coast experiences that 
have t
left you (VERY obviously) bitter.  but you have no right to make such 
sweeping generalizations about the east coast as a whole.  people are people,
wherever you go there will be nice ones and there will be nasty ones.  the 
west coast isn't any better or worse than the east coast.  just DIFFERENT.  and
isn't that the way it's supposed to be?  

i have been up and down the east coast of this country from florida to maine 
and i have seen ugly places and i have seen breathtakingly beautiful places.
i have not travelled the west coast, but i'm quite sure the story is the same
out there.  

so again, i'm sorry you don't like the east coast.  but i've lived here all of my life and i will not stand for having anyone
trash it the way you did.  

peace, 

ellen

. 

-- 

  **************************************************************************

   "sometimes the songs that we hear                ellen p. buckley 
    
    are just songs of our own. . . "                eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu
 
  **************************************************************************
  
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From: elessar@physics.unc.edu (Shawn Mehan)
Subject: Non-dead related!!
Organization: Dept. of Physics and Astronomy, Univ. North. Carolina at Chapel Hill
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:05:12 GMT

No DEAD Content!!:

Hi Ho: Someone posted a while back a number to a green money market fund called
Calvert Social Investment Fund. Could you please repost the number or just mail me
info at elessar@physics.unc.edu, please. If anyone else has this kind of of fund
information, please feel free to share. I am trying to get a handle on it.
Thanks in advance.

ODC: Doea anyone know what rendering package the SGI people used for
the animation on the tour? Wavefront maybe? Surely not Explorer!
*************************************************************
elessar@ncsc.org		Swim with the flow...
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From: Brian Jeffrey Cook <bjpc@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: midwest fall dates...????
Reply-To: bjpc@engin.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:10:44 GMT

i was wondering if anything was mentioned about midwest fall dates?!?
any help would be appreciated.....bjc
./
From: sax.uoregon (Norma Sax)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Veneta camping
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:40:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Jul21.234016.13944
Organization: university of oregon

my understanding is that there will be camping on-site for 10K campers 
and that the producers (keseys, BGP) have rented space from neighbors 
for camping. i'm not sure if neighbors space includes the 10K or not. apparently 
camping information is in the ticket packet. i don't 
know much about camping becuase since i'm working at the concert 
(first aid)  so i don't have to buy a ticket, but if i find out 
anything else, i'll let you know.
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From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:   East Coast
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:04:47 GMT

andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory) writes:
|Selling bumper stickers, video tapes, good food(?) and fractals is bonafide,
|good for the dead and good for the scene and good for my wallet

ain't that just the pot calling the kettle black! 
what's the difference between parking lot vendors and dope dealers?
1) neither pay taxes
2) both are there for reasons other than seeing the show
3) both are obstructing the ticket holder from entering and exiting the venue
4) both typically sell inferior quality goods

oppps, that's the similarities...just what are the differences?

Steve-TOO
From: cpalmer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Jerry's ties
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:31:36 EDT

I just saw an article this morning in the (conservative) Columbus newspaper
The Columbus Dispatch about Jerry's new ties.
It talked of the irony of Jerry, the leader of 60's counterculture,
designing ties, the ultimate symbol of power and conservatism.
It didn't dog him too much, and talked of his impressionist paintings that
he sells for 2,000-15,000 dollars and lithos for 50-200 dollars.
It included a picture of all the ties in a fan-like orientation; they did
look very nice and stylish.(If I needed a tie, I would love to
wear one of them)
They said that another line of ties was also on its way.
All in all, not a bad article, actually painted a pretty good picture 
of Jerry.

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From: klewis@mwunix (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: PMRC & Tipper
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:10:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.173809.27449@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> antae991@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu writes:
>The song that got Tipper all fired up about was "Darling Nikki" from
>Purple Rain.  She got a group of friends together to try to get
>congress (i.e. their husbands) to pass a bill supporting the 
>labeling of record albums, much like the movie rating system.

The major difference being the movie rating system is *voluntary*, and the
Mothers of Prevention (as Zappa put it) wanted to mandate such a system by
legislation.

>A few years ago (and several times since), Tipper has publically stated
>that the hearings were a mistake.  Her intention was not censorship but
>a way to educate the consumer and particularly parents about what type
>of music is out their for their children to buy.  Overall, her intentions
>were good, but got blown out of proportion.

I consider it just another attempt by the US politicians to take moral
responsibility away from the individual (or parent) and put it in the 
hands of the government.  "That new Kommie Klown Killers album *must* be
OK for little Johnny; the governent rated it PG!"

Bring the power back to the individual -- Vote Libertarian in 1992.

--
Keith Lewis              klewis@mwunix.mitre.org, klewis@mitre.org
Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the views of my employer.
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From: peg@phx.mcd.mot.com (Paolo Galtieri)
Subject: Re: Paolo Galtieri - Tape Tree - mail problems
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:12:46 GMT

In article <15505@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:
>I mailed earlier and didn't get any returned mail.  Could you post a
>list of all netters you've recieved mail from, Paolo.  Thanx in 
>advance.
>
>-Brian

Regarding receiving mail from my children on the 8/21/68 tree I have
not received any mail.  I have received lots of mail from people
wanting to get on the 5/30/92 tree I am running.  So I know mail is
getting to me.  I tried sending mail to vic this past weekend, and
since it has not bounced I assume it got through.  However, this weekend
we had a power hit here at work and it did have some affect of mail,
so I would suggest that anyone who has sent me mail re the 8/21/68
tree resend and please indicate it is for the 68 tree in the subject
line.  Here is my address:

	peg@caffeine.phx.mcd.mot.com

I apologize for the waste in bandwith, we now return you to your
regularly scheduled newsgroup.

Paolo
-- 
Paolo Galtieri, Mail Drop AZ43 - DW220     VOICE: (602) 438-3754
Senior Software Engineer                   INTERNET: peg@phx.mcd.mot.com
Motorola Core Tech. and System
2900 S. Diablo Way
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From: Skeptical Envelopment <APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: Dead-Flames Digest #57
Reply-To: APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:31:17 GMT

Just curious.....
Anyone worked out the chords to "Way To Go Home" yet?  If so, I'd like 
them.
--------Aaron
From: rcbi105@muvms3.bitnet (Matt Leary)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Grovel of Pittsburgh Civic Arena with Neville Brothers
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:01:16 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

I had a wonderful tape about a year ago that my brother let me tape.  His tape
went to pot soon after I gave it back to him.  Mine broke about two weeks
later.  It was from the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in 1989 or 1990.  It had the 
Neville Brothers during the second set and the tape was hot.  If memory serves
me well the second set was shakedown street, Sampson, *Aiko Aiko, *Men smart
women smarter, Drumz/Space, *Heavens Door, A song I can't remember then
Johnny B. Good as an Encore. (* With the Neville Brothers)

I was wondering if anyone out there might have this tape because I would really
like to have it agian and my brother's birthday is comming up and I would love
to give this tape to him.  Will send blanks or have soom to trade so please
E-mail me and let me know.

BTW, is there going to be a tape tree for the RFK, and Star Lake shows.  All
three were great, just wondering if anyone has heard anything.

Matt
From: dwdennin@myfeet.Corp.Sun.COM (Doug Dennin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: JGB Shoreline 7-26-92
Date: 27 Jul 1992 17:50:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dwdennin@myfeet.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: myfeet.corp.sun.com

One you forgot...

Lay Down Sally with a killer boo-boo by Jerry on the second verse,covered up well,tho


Doug

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