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From: koswatta@andy.bgsu.edu (Sunil Koswatta)
Subject: Re: Stockton
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:05:13 GMT

In article <Bs7tDE.H9y@andy.bgsu.edu> koswatta@andy.bgsu.edu (Sunil Koswatta) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.131938.24646@nuscc.nus.sg> med50005@nusunix2.nus.sg (TAN CHOON KIAT) writes:
>
>The best article I have seen in months.  You're absolutely right.
>There's nothing to say about Stockton.
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------

Let me take it back. There's something to say about him.
Just because one fat-fart in Utah decided on behalf of
USA to let him have a gold, THE BEST TEAM played one game
without a true PG.


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From: wp01jst1@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (John Tomas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bulls Trade
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:49:21 GMT


Alright, the Bulls have a weakness at the guard position other than the
one Jordan plays: OK, now can we get on to a discussion of the actual
comment?  Jeez, you'd think that you just started reading this group.

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From: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Subject: Re: USA/Croatia Score
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:36:59 GMT

In article <CPM.92Jul28091341@clyde.clearpoint.com> cpm@clyde.clearpoint.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.013532.22633@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> am402@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alex Canada) writes:
>
>
>>Yeah, I thought this was a fun game to watch. The DT had to actually work
>>for some of their pts. That big guy in the middle what's his name? Had
>>some outstanding blocks, and of course Petrovic plays the same way he did
>>in the NBA. Their were some showtime dunks by Pippen and Drexler. Jordan
>>had a nice break away dunk, but I especially liked the Pippen layup where
>>he did an Isiah Thomas, showed the ball and layed up and in. Kukoc? is that
>>how you spell his name? Well, Pippen took him to school. Next up.. Germany.
>
>That big guy in the middle was none other than Stoyko Rankavic(sp). He was
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^
>the 12th man on the Celtics for the last two seasons. That is the best I
>have ever seen him play. He actually looked good. At one point Bird fouled
>Stoyko when he was driving to the hoop. The announcers were joking about it.
>I think Stoyko finished with ~10 rebounds and ~5 blocks.
>
>>Alex
>
>
>Chris Martel
>Clearpoint Research
>cpm@clyde.clearpoint.com

His name is Vrankovich. I was really surprised to see him play so well.
For Celtics he looks like a joker. If he plays better in the NBA he 'll be
a great asset for the Celtics.
- Sougata


==============================================================================	
Sougata Mukherjea (sougata@cc.gatech.edu)
Graphics Visualization and Usability Center
College of Computing
Georgia Institute of Technology 
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: POGO-stick RETIRES (yes,aint kidding)
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:08:36 GMT

billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>>gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>>>
>>> Among the reasons they said he gave for wanting to retire were Chuck
>>> Daly's departure and lack of new challenges.
>>
>> Maybe he could challenge himself to score on the offensive end without it 
>> having to be a put-back from an offensive board... ;^)
>
> Maybe you could look up his 3pt shooting and explain your definition of a put
> back.  Maybe you could inject a bit of reality into your rabid and inane
> postings.  

A little uptight aren't we Bill?  Didn't you see my smiley face, which,
BY THE UNWRITTEN LAW OF R.S.BB.P, protects me from being flamed?
Talk about rabid and inane.  You should try to get more fiber...

BTW, Rodman's 31% 3PT didn't impress me when I noticed the 60% FT right 
beside it.

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From: djt2445@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Laettner vs Barkley
Reply-To: djt2445@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:17:00 GMT

In article <4152@news.duke.edu>, radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>In article <22903@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
>>Which spoke louder, Laettner's foot or Barkley's elbow?
>
>Ainge's teeth.
>
>--Rob Clough
Since WHEN did Danny Ainge ever bite anyone? It was TREE ROLLINS who bit Ainge,
not vice versa!

David Tai
DJT2445

________________________________________________________________________________
Boston Herald title:
TREE BITES MAN!
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cut & Paste
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:55:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul21.153723.28917@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>   ed.  give it rest.  so what?  
So it's a big deal, since you know what we are trying to do from the 15th
day on ....

>if you REALLY believe meeks considered the 3-ptr a homejob, i have a bridge...
Who cares what he believes, I only care about what he posted. Because that's
the key of the argument now -- the history of our posts.

>  for every call there will be those that see it as a bad call and those
>  that see it as a good call.  all calls are bogus and no calls are bogus!
That's fine. But as long as I can get him admitting it's was a "home job",
or "bad call", that's enough. Whether he did  actually say bogus is 
immaterial.

>     which he defines in a different way than you do, and that is the crux
>  of this argument.  semantical arguments cannot be won by either side.
Well, he can define all he wants. As long as it's his OWN definition,
it's fine.

In other words, he has to wimp out from the usual definition of "job"
to make it a semantic argument.

> you might be the only one on the net to see that in that statement.
But there aren't many seeing it the other way except you and Meeks. You 
can do a poll again. And I finally got him to admit that he has to put 
"even if" retroactively to hypothesize the premise. It means there is 
no hypothesis in the original statement.

>>"So in your context, since over the last few years, you can name as many
>>as 2 3pt incidences, that is proof enough for you that the league is in
>>the Celtics pocket and the refs give the Celtics all the calls". Admission
>>of the 2 3-ptrs as calls the refs gave.
>
>   no admission.  he just says you can name them, it doesnt mean he thinks
>   they are so.
It's doesn't support the hypothesis of the premise either. Where is the
"even if"? 

BTW, why "the refs give the Celtics all the calls"? he could have said
"as many as 2 3pt incidences, that is proof enough for you that I am
spying for Saddam Hussein?" 

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Average Centers
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:06:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.203322.14561@leland.Stanford.EDU> waterski@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mark T. Stacey) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.193213.28638@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>>
>>Come on.  Perhaps you can say something about Ewing not being perfect, but
>>Robinson and Hakeem (excluding last season) are A+'s.  Let's face it,
			.
			.
			.
>Fine, Hakeem is probably the best center in the NBA, but I can't accept this
>nonsense about David Robinson being an A+.  David Robinson is not a great
>center, in fact, he can't even play the position offensively.  The man can
			.
			.
			.
Let's put this in historical perspective.  I assert that
A+	Wilt
	Bill Russell
	Kareem

A	Willis Reed
	Robert Parish
	Wes Unseld

B	Dan Issel
	Walt Bellamy

C	Bill Cartwright
	Joe Barry Carroll
	Ralph Sampson


Akeem is an A, Robinson an A-.  Here are the obvious
questions:
1.  Was George Mikan an A+?  Walton was, when he played,
    but I can't decide if he played enough.
2.  Nate Thurmond:  A-?  B+?
3.  Artis Gilmore:  C+?  B+?  What was wrong with Artis,
    anyway?  It always seemed that he had a body that could
    do more; did coaches simply not know how to use him?
4.  Was Dave Cowens A or A-?
5.  Darryl Dawkins and George McGinnis are among the many
    Philadelphia centers who receive "social passes" (I
    just learned that from an educator) for consistently
    having their assignments chewed by the dog on the way
    to school.
-- 

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From: robert@landru.mtc.ti.com (Robert Treese)
Subject: Re: Laettner vs Barkley
Keywords: nn
Organization: Manufacturing Technology Center, Texas Instruments, Dallas
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:10:01 GMT

Yes I am new to rec.sport.basketball.pro.  If I am not follow proper 
netiquette or some rules to this subject I apologize.  It is just
Danny Ainge has enough to be slammed about besides people getting the story
wrong on the biting incident.

Robert
robert@dragon.mtc.ti.com
From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: 1990 Goodwill Games team
Date: 30 Jul 1992 17:19:01 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Jul30.154316.1904@wkuvx1.bitnet> rasdald@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
|>	Tommy Amaker, Duke

I would start Amaker before Kenny Smith or Mugsy Bogues.  Anyone know who did
start for this team?  Amaker was an awesome defensive player and a very good
playmaker and ballhandler.

|>	David Robinson, Navy
|      Totally dominated the game during his time (college), even more than 
|      Shaq.  He was almost a given to score if he touched the ball in the post.
|      Look at the UK NCAA game for anyu more convince.  D-Team member.

My memories of DR were that he was a very good rebounder and shotblocker, but
not nearly the offensive player that he is now.  Also, I think Shaq was much
more dominating.

Rick
From: milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Dream Team LOSES!
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:00:05 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <92205.074134KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>  Yes, this is no joke, it is true. The Dream Team lost yesterday, and they
>also won.  It seems that Chuck split up the squads, it was Jordan, Pippen,
>Bird, Malone and Ewing against Johnson, Laettner, Mullin, Barkley and Robinson.
>The final score was 40-36 with Jordan hitting two free throws with 1.5 seconds
>to go to lock the game.  "This is the best fun we have on the court.  It might
>be the only competition we get all summer.  There's a lot of talking out there"
>says Jordan.  Magic, "Our team was ahead 14-2 and for about 2 minutes, Michael
>just brought them back by himself.  I was telling myself, 'I've got to stop
>him', but in the back of your mind, you know you can't".  The media was only
>allowed to watch the last 5 minutes.



Where was Clyde Drexler during all this??
From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Olympic jerk
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:23:38 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <19732@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>In article <16832484B.O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>, O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Doug Miller) writes:
>>  I am getting damn tired of Charles Barkley's mouth and his antics. He
>> is destroying the Dream Team. I just feel sorry for the rest of them because
>> they are making me proud to be an american, Barkley isn't.
>
> He's been the best damn player out there - face it the NBA defines basketball
>and Charles is a big part of the NBA - if other countries don't like it then
>too bad - that's the way it goes - if they want to compete with the NBA then
>they should learn to play like the NBA and that includes physical and verbal
>taunts.

I was listing to NPR yesterday morning, and they had an interview with Frank
DeFord (sp?) who is over there covering the action for them (and I suspect
Newsweek as well). Anyway, they asked him how things were in general, chatted
about some of the other events, and finally got around to the Dream Team and
Charles. The question of Ugly Americanism came up in this particular context,
and Frank said that basically, Americans were harder on Charles' behavior than
the rest of the world was. He really felt that we made a bigger deal out of 
"antics" than the other countries do.

(I was going to stay out of this one, but wanted to pass this on.)

...al
w.a. mckay
desert research institute
reno, nevada
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Subject: Sixers info. wanted
From: dbd@icf.hrb.com (Douglas B. Dodson)
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:30:11 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

Hello!

If anyone out there has any news on the Sixers (signings, trade rumors, rookie
camp information, anything at all...) or just opinions on their present and
future, please send me something--anything.  Thanks!

-- 
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From: terry@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: All-Star brain teaser....
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 09:05:28 GMT

In article <16832F3BD.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>, EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
|> OK, without looking:
|>  
|> Which team had the most representative players in the last All-Star game?
|>  
|> And no, the Dream Team doesn't count! Tho' that would be a good answer!
|>  
|> For extra credit, name the players.
|>  
|> Answer to follow!
|> --Eric

That's easy.  The Pistons had three players, Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, and
Dennis Rodman.  Of these, Thomas was selected by fan voting and the others
by the coaches in the East.  Other teams that had multiple player selections
were Chicago with Pippen and Jordan, Cleveland with Mark Price and 
Brad Daugherty, Phoenix with Marle and Hornacek, Golden State with
Mullin and Hardaway, Utah with Stockton and Malone.  I believe that
Worthy was also selected so if you count Magic, the Lakers also had two.

What's the point of this?  Don't tell me you're trying to prove how
great the Pistons are.
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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (BEACH VOLLEYBALL!!!)
Subject: Re: Bullchit! Re: POGO-stick RETIRES (yes,aint kidding)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:35:11 GMT

EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.121221.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>
>tswilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Sly Fox) writes:
> 
>>Dennis Rodman, the Detriot Pistons' pogo stick will retire soon to concerate
>>on his business in Houston. He said he is tired of NBA and have no motivate
>>to play anymore.
> 
>Yeah, and Jordan is out with a broken jaw, and the Dream Team lost a game.
> 
[deleted stuff]
> 
>--Eric

read it in "clari.sports.basketball"!!!  UPI posted it today.  i read it,
couldn't beleive it, but that is a pretty stable source.

jay

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it takes a big man to cry, 
but it takes a bigger man
to laugh at that man.     -Jack Handey
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From: dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Sixers Camp News?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:30:51 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <Brt6qv.Hu5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>[ talking about management wanting to start Hornacek]
>
>	If Hornacek were to start, where'd he play?  Shooting guard?  Nope
>	Hersey's there.  And no matter how you look at it, Hornacek isn't at
>	his best at the point guard slot.  The 3-guard offense has worked in
>	the past -- ala the Pistons -- and with all 3 getting equal playing
>	time, it really isn't going to matter who's starting.  Hornacek's
>	more used to coming off the bench than the other guys -- due to his
>	earlier experience -- so that should make him the 1st candidate.
>
>	Jazzy J
>-- 

OK How many games did the sixers win with Hawkins and Dawkins leading the
charge? Blame Sir Charles? I don't think so... They could have used a PF 
and a C though...

I believe that it is about time that Hersey sat his butt on the pines for 
a spell. Hornacek should give them what they need consistency from the
2 guard position. I have seen too many games where Hawkins has disappeared 
and couldn't hit the floor with the ball. 

Hornacek will start simply because (as someone stated earlier) they traded
a superstar for him. I also believe that he should start because he is a 
better shooter that Hawkins.  

					Dennis Joyce
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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Subject: Olympic Comments...
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:13:42 GMT


It seems like every team the USA faces has 1 or two former or current pros...
Shrempf, Kukoc, Petrovic, Blab, etc.  Every team seems to have at least a
former NBA draft pick.  Anyone who thinks the USA using its pros is unfair,
well, it  looks like everyone else did the same and has been for a long
time.

I love watching this total dominance after watching the USA get beat up by
teams consisting of NBA 6th men etc.  The Olympics should be a showcase for
the best in the world, tthe bst athletes.  I'd like to see Baseball go the
same way.  Just my 2 cents...

Mike
--
From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Kite returns to Disneyworld - Trade is void
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:57:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Jul21.155728.8761
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul21.123038.5035@cci632.cci.com> dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.215429.17911@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>What was the reason that Kite failed the physical? Knees? Back? What?

He has an atrial fibrillation (sp?) - an irregular heartbeat.  The problem
was first detected this past season and was corrected by low dosage medication.
Kite stopped taking the medication (under medical supervision) without
problems.  Presumably he will go back to taking it.

Orlando's team physicians, and a cardiologist consulted by Kite for a second
opinion told him that the problem would not affect his ability to play.
Houston's doctor disagreed.  There are several other NBA players who have 
the same condition - most notably Akeem Olajuwon.

In local interviews, Kite did not seem worried about it.  His comment - "The
only thing that will affect my ability to play IS my ability to play."

With Kite's salary back on Orlando's books, the Magic need to free up ~$1.5M
for a realistic shot at signing O'Neal.

Tom@Orlando
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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (BEACH VOLLEYBALL!!!)
Subject: Re: JORDON OUT WITH BROKEN JAW!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:17:35 GMT

it's  jordan, not  jordon.
From: graham@diogenes.nrl.navy.mil (Graham G. Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Hammonds, Charlotte
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:02:46 GMT

> I think Charlotte will keep him.  They may try to increase his stock by
> playing him this year and then trading him.  Charlotte needs a good sf,
> so why not give Tom a good chance?
> 

	Well being a Bullets fan, I can tell you a little bit about
Hammonds. He played really well in 90-91, when Bernard King was injured
he started at small forward and i think his stats in those situations were
16 pts and 9 rebs a game, with, ironically, a career game at Charlotte, 
24 pts and 12 rebounds. So he CAN do it. This past year wasn't as good,
but he still did pretty well - when i saw him play - he's a good wing on 
fast breaks (which ARE the Bullets specialty, after all), has resounding dunks,
and can hit open or post-up 12-15-footers. other than that he's a little
weak - rebounding could be better and he's a little weak, but surprisingly
i've seen his defending, and bigger PF's will back him in, twist, turn, etc.,
and they and up not doing to well on their shot.
so hammonds will be OK for you guys! Who was Charlotte's small forward this
year? Since i dont know he must not have been very good.
so have fun!

graham
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Reggie Lewis (was Re: 2nd Dream Team)
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:05:19 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Jul21.043846.13827@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.220205.728@leela.cs.orst.edu> chrisda@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (David Christensen) writes:
>>>
>>>In defense of Lewis, as an off-guard/small forward (mostly off-guard), he
>>>averages 50%+ from the field, scored 20.8ppg, pulled down 4.8rpg, and had
>>>2.3apg.  He also led his team in steals and blocked shots.  When compared
>>>to other players, especially other 2 guards, there are not too many who had
>>>a better season than Lewis.  Jordan, sure.. Drexler, ok...  but after that???
>>>
>>
>>Ok... How about Jeff Hornacek?  Reggie Miller.  Mitch Richmond.  Sarunas 
>>Marciulionis, Joe Dumars, Jeff Malone, Hersey Hawkins.  Is Lewis better than
>>all these guys?  I doubt it seriously.
>
>Definitely better than Dumars, Hawkins, Malone, Sarunas and the other Reggie.
>I like Jeff Hornacek a lot though, and Mitch Richmond is the man.  But I'd
>still say that he's in the group (in fact those two were who I picked to
>be on Dream Team 2).  Maybe he belongs on the roster.

The only problem I have with Richmond is shot selection.  Maybe it is because
of the team he is on (he didn't seem so bad in GS), but whenever I have seen
him this last year, he looked to take the shot way to often, and often shot
at bad times.

>>
>>I think Lewis is very good, and he belongs in this group.  But I don't see
>>him as quite the scoring threat that most of these guys are.
>
>As quite the scoring threat?  Boston has a very well balanced offense with
>many, many people in double digits, yet Lewis averaged more than all those
>guys up there except for Richmond and Horny I think.  And Horny got 1 more
>ppg.  Did you happen to catch his 40+ point performances against the Cavs?

Actually, only Richmond.  Horny only averaged 20.1, while Reggie went out at
20.8.
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