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From: marcs@crpmks.uucp (Marc Snyder)
Subject: Upgrade from 30g to 75g questions [M]
Organization: CIBA-GEIGY Corporation, Additives Division
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:04:13 GMT

Hello all,
	I'm currently buying a new house, and like I've always said, when I
bought a house, I was going to buy some larger tanks.  I currently have a
30g mini-reef going that has been very successful.  What I'm planning on
doing is buying a 75g tank, stand, and glass top.  I'm also planning on
buying an Amiricle 150 W/D filter for the new tank.  I'll fill the tank,
cycle with damsels or a "loaner" grouper or eel, and when it's cycled
move my fish, anenomes, corals, and live rock into the new tank.  I'll
also move my 24" counter current skimmer to the new tank.  
	Here are some questions that I have:
	
I'm currently using 3 24" flourescent tubes in my 30g tank.  They are all
installed in triton reflectors.  I was considering using 4 48", 40W tubes
for the new tank.  Enough light?  Should I consider halides?  Anyone know
where to get a 4 bulb system like above cheaply?  Anyone know where to
get those halide systems with the 2 flourescent tubes cheaply?  I've seen
Coralife stuff like that advertised for $400-600!

What kind of pump is sufficient for the Amiricle filter.  My friend
mentioned using one of the Little Giant units.  Any good/bad experiences
with the Amiricle 150?

	Well that's about it.  I've never really played with a w/d filter
before, so I wanted to give it a shot.  I'm going to want to set up
another tank (more fancy) for my living room in another year or so.
Another friend of mine convinced me to go with just a protein skimmer on
that one.  I thought about doing the skimmer only on the new 75g, but I'd
like to learn a bit about standard w/d systems first.  Thanks for any
advice anyone can offer.
-- 
Marc Snyder                     UUCP: ...philabs!crpmks!marcs
System Administrator                  
Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Hawthorne, New York          Work: 914.785.2284      Play: 914.347.6440
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From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Reverse flow w/550?
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:58:35 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Would it be especially useful for me to conver my two Penguin 550 powerheads to
reverse-flowwhen I build all my rock-caves for my African tank?  I know that
this will help alleviate 'dead spots' in the gravel, but really what I am
wondering is: are the 550's powerful enough to run RF?

Any commentary would be greatly appreciated!

				-Matt
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From: isaac@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Debi Isaac)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: RE:Painted Glassfish off my list!
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:08:26 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Lab



I did purchase a "painted glass fish" (before I got wise via this group)
in April of 1991.  After about 5-6 months, the lime green color faded.
However, he/she lives in a community tank with (55g) with angels,
pl*eco, 2 gouramis, and 1 discus.  Look at the date.  He/she will be
alive in my tank for 2 years (in 2 more months).  He/she is very active.
and holds his own for food.  I think the acidic ph and warm temperature
contribute to his health.

Just thought I would share this.


	debi
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From: jaturne@eng.clemson.edu (james turner)
Subject: [M] PMS Tank
Reply-To: jaturne@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:00:44 GMT



Hello all,
	
	I recently purchased a 55gal marine tank to supplement my 20L (or should
it be the other way around?).  Anyway, previously, the 20L had the following
residents, in order of addition to the tank:

	2 hermit crabs
	1 Cocoa damsel -- from cycle
	1 Dominoe damsel -- from cycle
	1 Oscillaris (sp?) clown
	1 Picasso triggerfish
	2 anenomes

	When I got the 55gal, I removed the anenomes from the 20L (the picasso had
gotten stung pretty bad once, but survived.  I didn't want to risk him).  I took
the two damsels and crabs out and put them in the 55gal for the cycle.  I then
added a coral beauty to the 20L.  That's when all Hell broke loose!

	Before, the dominoe chased the cocoa, but otherwise the tank was VERY
peaceful.  The trigger was added last, which I think had a little to do with it.
When I added the coral beauty, which is about the same size as the trigger right
now, the trigger didn't like it at all.  After a few days, things cooled down and
there were no more fin-fights.  During all this, the clown just stayed out of the
way, and nobody bothered him.

	At present, nobody gets along.  The clown has been chasing the coral beauty
and the trigger (amusing, since the clown is by FAR much smaller than either), and
the trigger and beauty have been at each other quite a few times.  No damaged fins
or broken bodies so far, though.  

	What I would like to know is if anyone has had asimilar experience with this 
behavior, or if anyone knows what may have caused the sudden change in attitudes?  Was I suppsed to know that adding the beauty would set off Tank War I?  Could the trigger 
be feeling "jealousy" (he gets upset if I feed the beauty or clown first)?  I have 
noticed that if I just drop flakes in the tank, not near anyone, the trigger shreds it 
but doesn't let anyone else eat it.  What makes me mad is that he doesn't eat it 
either, he just won't let anyone else.

	Any ideas???????????


Al Turner
Chem. Engr. Dept.
Clemson University
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From: jolico@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Lucie Jolicoeur)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Red gills - Complete post!
Keywords: Goldfish
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:44:13 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Universite de Montreal

(sorry, the first paragraph was skipped when I posted the first time :( )

Hi!
My dear pet, a goldfish(fantail) is having big problems with what seems
like Gyrodactylus or Dactylogyrus: fish lice...  There are no other fish
in the aquarium with him.

A week ago, he wasn't as dynamic as usual and was beginning to rub and
shake himself: not knowing what to do, I've put some methylene blue and
a little bit of salt in the aquarium.

3 days ago, I noticed a redness on his "chin": his gills were attacked!
So I replaced 2/3 of the water (because of the methylene) and pour in
some "LIFE BEARER" from "Aquarium Products".  It says that it will stop
both rubbing and shaking in less then 48 hours... Well, it's been about
42 hours, and he's not feeling better. But he still likes to eat
(his dorsal fin goes strait up!). 

What can I do to save him? On the "LIFE BEARER", it's not said what to
do AFTER the 48 hours... Should I pour some of it(the same qty ?) UNTIL
he's ok? Or should I try another product(which one?) and change the water
again, risking giving him STRESS...

Please help me! This fish is not a decoration, I LOVE him!!

Thank you,
Claire-Helene

N.B.:Is it possible that "LIFE BEARER" is not working because it could be
too "old"??
From: bmaroldo@kilowatt (Brian Maroldo)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Little White Worms.
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:48:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kilowatt Computers of Deer Park, LI, NY

Maybe someone can shed some light on this:

	I've got a 10 gallon freshwater, with two small black convicts that
recently became parents. I have about 15 fry that are seeem quite healthy.
I've been sucessfully hatching brine shrimp and feeding the babies.

PROBLEM: This morning, while taking a close look at the fry, I noticed a
couple of hundred little white worms crawling on the glass. They are only
about 1/32 of an inch long, and dont seem to be hanging on the fish.

	Any idea of what they are? Will they hurt the fish? How do I rid
my tank of these creatures? Any hints before I hose the thing out in the
back yard?

						Brian Maroldo

bmaroldo@kilowatt
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From: marcs@crpmks.uucp (Marc Snyder)
Subject: Fluval 303 Question [F]
Organization: CIBA-GEIGY Corporation, Additives Division
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:01:49 GMT

Hello all,
	I'm going to be moving my Africans from a 30g tank to a 75g tank.
I'm currently using a Fluval 303 for filtration.  Will this filter be
sufficient on a 75g tank?  I was also thinking of using a "T" on the
filter intake to run two separate intake tubes on opposite sides of the
tank.  Is this a good idea, or a bad idea?  Will it work?  Thanks for all
of the help.
-- 
Marc Snyder                     UUCP: ...philabs!crpmks!marcs
System Administrator                  
Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Hawthorne, New York          Work: 914.785.2284      Play: 914.347.6440
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From: sherwood@ug.cs.dal.ca (Alison R. Sherwood)
Subject: Help! Sick goldfish
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:31:46 GMT


Here's the setup:
5 gallon tank, freshwater
1 black moor, 1 fantail
all water tests fine, no previous problems

I've had the tank operating since August, running fine until about three weeks
ago, when my fantail developed hemorhagic septicemia. I consulted two 
aquarium and fish dealers (reputable) who prescribed erythromycin. Several
days later the problem was gone, and I continued the medication for one more
day before stopping. Now, and for the past week and a half the problem has
been back worse than ever. I've been administering erythromycin again for 
about four days, with no results. I've also added a small amount of sea salt.
I do 10-20% water changes every week. The black moor remains unaffected. Today
the fantail is staying near the bottom and has ripped tail fin with a fungal
-like growth on it. The only parts of his body affected are his fins. Good
appetite, no clamping, etc. Any suggestions what to do?

Thanks,
Alison Sherwood
sherwood@ug.cs.dal.ca
From: jwjohn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jerry W. Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Strange pleco. story
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:09:15 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: corpse.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1jvg5aINNopr@shelley.u.washington.edu> stick@carson.u.washington.edu (suzanne cherniack) writes:
>I had a strange experience (as did my pleco.) and was wondering if any

stuff deleted ...
>It wasn't anywhere in the tank... so... I looked 
>stero cabinet and felt a rubbery thing, and there was the pleco., all dried
>out and covered with cat hair.  Since the tank was right there, I dunked 
>it in to clean it off, and it started moving.  It swam to the bottom of
>the tank and alternately "breathed" and stopped.  Now, three days later,
>it seems as healthy as can be.
>
>-Suzanne
>-stick@u.washington.edu

Was this supposed to be posted on April 1st? :)
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From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Subject: Re: [M] Anemone
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:40:42 GMT

In article <C1E6sy.GI3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> thompssp@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Steven P. Thompson) writes:
>
>     I am new to the marine hobby and I have a question. I know that there are
>no absolutes when it comes to picking an anemone for a clown, but tell me what 
>you think.
>     I have a Percula Clown and the little guy seems to be lost. It spends it's
>time trying to hide behind my corner filter. Would this little dude like an
>anemone to play in? If so, what kind is the best? I don't trust the fish store
>people much when it comes to this. I think they were just trying to sell me the
>most expensive thing in the store.
>     Any help would be appreciated!

I read up on percula clowns and then got a bubble tip anenome for my pair.
They promptly ignored it for about a year.  I then got a ritteri and they
love it.  The bubble tip still lives there, but both fish live in the 
ritteri.

I don't know about you, but clown/anemone combos are a big part of why
I started a reef tank.  Keep in mind that you need GOOD light to keep
anemones however.  They are photosynthetic creatures.  Also pretty
good water conditions.


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3rd year medical student 		        
The Ohio State U. College of Medicine   Tobacco Kills- Please don't smoke!
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From: joxer@maths.tcd.ie (Niall Ward)
Subject: cowfish death
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:16:04 GMT

dear steve,

Have you yourself undergone any emotional trauma recently?I hear cowfish have very sensitive "Bad Emotional Vibe" detectors,and your unfortunate fish just may have died because your emotional stress was too much for it.For future reference,try to keep a rein on your feelings to prevent any more fatalities

                                                                    Niall
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: dbs@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Dave Sheehy)
Subject: Re: (All)  New African set-up.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:54:07 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL7]
Followup-To: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria

Gregory Frazier (frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu) wrote:
: Doesn't sound like a bad idea.  I'd remove all of the fish, first - they'll
: do fine in plastic bags or buckets, as long as you complete the operation
: w/in an hour or so (don't put nasty cichlids together in the same back or
: bucket).

I have found that the best temporary quarters for a tankful of africans is
a 5 gallon bucket lined with a black plastic garbage bag. It's very dark in
there and if they can't see each other they can't beat each other up. I have
moved my africans this way so many times I don't want to even think about it.
I've kept africans since I was a student and when I moved to the Bay Area for 
a summer job they went with me and back. Am I a fanatic or what?. I cannot
ever remember losing a single fish and I have kept some of the nastiest
mbuna that ever lived.

: ...  Lava rock
: looks bad, but it is light, which is a definite plus; the choice is yours.

C'mon Greg, it doesn't look THAT bad :-). The lava rock I have is really 
tufa rock if you want to get technical and it is most definitely not light.

: Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier

Dave Sheehy
From: sl387@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: (F) Pseudotropheus Lombardoi
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:36:01 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hello...I was wondering where I could find some information
on a African cichlid called Pseudotropheus Lombardoi.

I need to know what sort of conditions they like...what needs to be done to
get them to breed etc.

thanks...

Bob Tibesar------------------------>sl387@cc.usu.edu

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From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Subject: Re: aquarium services offered
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
Distribution: alt
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:02:43 GMT

thompssp@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Steven P. Thompson) writes:

: "mike primorac" <mike.primorac@canrem.com> writes:

: >        Hi, I'm posting this message for a friend of mine
: > who has lots of experience regarding fresh and saltwater
: > aquariums.

: > Mike Primorac
: >Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario

:      This seems to me to be a definate violation of protocol. Is it
: appropriate to run a "business" add on the net? (Anyone care to
: flame me for saying so?) 

 I personally prefer to do my own tank maintenance but even if I
didn't, I don't think I'd have some dude (hoser) come all the way down
from Canada to do it.... 

 At least keep your posting local.  I don't think sci.aquaria, or even
rec. or alt.aquaria are intended for these types of post.  And
especially not in triplicate!

--tom



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	    Tom McCain            tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu


 New York is real.  The rest is done with mirrors.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: thompssp@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Steven P. Thompson)
Subject: Re: cowfish death
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:17:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.121604.28925@maths.tcd.ie> joxer@maths.tcd.ie (Niall Ward) writes:
>dear steve,
>
>Have you yourself undergone any emotional trauma recently?I hear cowfish have very sensitive "Bad Emotional Vibe" detectors,and your unfortunate fish just may have died because your emotional stress was too much for it.For future reference,try to keep a rein on your feelings to prevent any more fatalities
>
>                                                                    Niall


     HUH??????????

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From: rclark@alcor.concordia.ca (Richard Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: (fF)  Info on Black Tetras is sought
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:47:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

In article <1993Jan23.204033.19122@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> abilenko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arkady Bilenko) writes:
[other stuff deleted, in essence, should I buy black tetras?]

>Other fish:  17 cardinal tetras (1-2"), one clown loach (2"), 2 small angels
>(1.5").

In my opinion, no.  I've had these fish, I'm pretty sure they'll do a
number on your angels fins.  Regardless, as the fish get older, they
lose their black stripes, and so aren't very attractive.  The don't
swim around a lot as they get older, so that's kind of a drag too.
They will school, but it's more like they "sit" around rather than
swim around.

rick


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From: frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier)
Subject: Re: snails, yum, yum.
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:36:09 GMT

Randall K. Spicher (cavalama@bsu-cs.bsu.edu) wrote:
: 
: 
: Anyone know what fish like to eat snails?  I'd like to control my snail
: population the "natural" way.  I'm referring to freshwater fish.

Several loach species (clown, skunk, some others), puffers, some
cichlids (Heros (Cichlisoma) aureum, for one, also some Africans).
That is not a complete list.  Note that puffers like brackish water
and are nasty fin nippers, and aureums are only a little nicer to
each other than firemouths (much nicer to plants, though).

--
"They thought to use and shame me but I win out by nature, because a true
freak cannot be made.  A true freak must be born." - K. Dunn, _Geek Love_

Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier
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From: "mike primorac" <mike.primorac@canrem.com>
Subject: aquarium services offered
Reply-To: "mike primorac" <mike.primorac@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:05:02 EST

        Hi, I'm posting this message for a friend of mine
 who has lots of experience regarding fresh and saltwater
 aquariums.

        If you've been having trouble with your aquarium
 or would like a professional to set one up for you, then
 you're in luck because Craig at Eco-Life Aquariums is the
 man to call.  Also, if you would like your aquarium cleaned
 and maintained on a regular basis he can make pre-arranged
 house calls.  The rates for these and many other services
 are quite affordable and Craig takes personal pride in
 providing a pleasant service with a smile.  Please call
 (416)-793-5963 after 8:00 p.m on weeknights and ask for
 Craig LeMasurier.

        From personal experience I can tell you that he
 made a considerable difference in the way that my reef
 looks.  Since I have subscribed to his service I find
 that the corals are doing much better than before and
 my mushrooms have rapidly divided.  It was money well
 spent, and the price was highly affordable too.

 Mike Primorac
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
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From: MLOCKER@biomed.med.yale.edu (Michael Locker)
Subject: Chinese algae eater question
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:54:46 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

	I have been the owner of three chinese algae eaters.  All three have
ended up dying after becoming bloated.  They exhibited no change in behavior
and no other signs of disease.  I have sworn them off as pets, but I was
wondering what exactly killed them.  Is it possibly internal parasites or
intestinal obstruction?
        Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
                                                    --Michael
From: windels@lemon.csil.sfu.ca (Karla Jane Windels)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: (M) How often to change water?
Keywords: changing water
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:45:20 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

How often should water in a marine aquarium be changed and what amount each
time?

We have recently converted one tank over to salt water and were told
by the fish store who sold us the new supplies that the water did not
need to be changed as often as with fresh.  They recommended: once after
the first month, then once a year after that.  But I've also heard other
answers.  The books we have don't seem to cover this.

Tank Description:
  - 72 gal.
  - UGF w/ two powerheads
  - protein skimmer
  - canister filter w/ chemi-pure
  - just fish, no live rock etc.

Thanks,
Karla
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From: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Subject: Re: [F] Black Ghost Knife
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:17:05 GMT
Reply-To: brunner@crchh447.bnr.ca (James Brunner)
Organization: BNR, Inc.

In article <1993Jan24.032553.15169@socrates.umd.edu>, rocky@socrates.umd.edu (Rocky Giannini) writes:
|> Help!
|> 
|> I purchased a black ghost knife a week ago, and I don't think
|> that he's doing very well.  He's swimming *sideways*, much to
|> my distress.  The water in the tank tests okay, and all the

Black ghosts are supposed to swim sideways.  In fact, they swim quite well
in almost ANY orientation (upside down, backwards, etc).

|> other fish are fine.  I have yet to see him eat, although
|> I've been offering bloodworms, brine shrimp and flakes.  He
|> does, however come out of his tube, and nose around in the gravel.
|> I saw him suck up a couple tubifex (I tried feeding those, too)
|> but I'm not sure if they were actually ingested, or just spit
|> out when I wasn't looking.  One interesting aside, one of

I wouldn't worry.  My ghost goes through "spells" where it doesn't eat
anything noticable for months at a time.  Other times it eats voraciously
up to 5 duro-min sticks twice per day.

|> the people at the store I purchased the knife from said
|> to feed it guppies, which I thought was odd, cos' the knife
|> has a teeny tiny mouth.  Any info would be greatly appreciated

Tiny mouth HA HA HA.  That "tiny mouth" can open to almost 180 degrees!
It can easily eat guppies.  I watched mine hunt down and kill a glass knife
that was fairly good sized, much larger than a guppy!

|> because it really is a cool fish, and I'd be kinda bummed if
|> it died. Thanks in advance!

I used to feed mine frozen chunks of brine shrimp.  I hand-feed it mostly
duro-min now, but dried bloodworms (in chunks) on occasion.  If you're
really worried, I'd try the frozen brine shrimp, but remember DON'T OVERFEED.
It'll eat when it's ready.
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