From: david@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH WAYNE DAVID)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: thermostat
Date: 13 Jan 93 15:20:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1993Jan13.152043.15618
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In article <12JAN199310095893@nessie.cc.wwu.edu>,
 8635660@nessie.cc.wwu.edu (Jay Lonner) writes:
> From: 8635660@nessie.cc.wwu.edu (Jay Lonner)
> Hello,
> 
> Is it advisable to remove the thermostat from a Type I engine and just leave
> the flaps open all the time?  I've heard that it increases airflow, but at the
> cost of rough startups (esp. in colder weather).  Are there any other side
> effects that I should look out for if I choose to do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jay.
> 

Most engine wear occurs during the startup/warmup period as the oil is cold
and thick and the internal components are not at the proper temperature.
Also, I have monitored oil temperature on my beetles for about 20 years and
found that they will not warm up (oil temp of about 180 F) during the winter
in NC and VA.

Thus, do not remove the thermostat (Gene Berg is right again). Simply adjust 
it so that when it reaches the stop (top of the mounting bracket), the flaps
are wide open. Do this by loosening the bracket mounting nut on the block, 
removing the bolt that attaches the bracket to the mount thus allowing the 
flaps to open, and adjusting the bracket so that the thermostat touches the
top of the bracket. Tighten the bold on the block and reattach the thermostat
to the bracket.

Enjoy!!!

Joe

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From: wpc@po.CWRU.Edu (William P. Claspy)
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Hey now,

I've ripped mine off and had no problem, but a bud of mine just rebuilt his
1600 '71 bus and got one from a junkyard and put it on.  He said "I'm rebuilding
this stock, and the thermostat is stock so I'm putting it on and don't give
me any more grief."  Just don't think it'll make all that much difference.

Bill

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In article <12JAN199310095893@nessie.cc.wwu.edu>, you wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is it advisable to remove the thermostat from a Type I engine and just leave
> the flaps open all the time?  I've heard that it increases airflow, but at the
> cost of rough startups (esp. in colder weather).  Are there any other side
> effects that I should look out for if I choose to do this?

I've haven't had one since 1978.  But, I live in Houston, Texas.  I can't
remember what the engine was like *with* them, it's been so long...

I also took out all of the flaps and the connecting rods...

Could you summarize your answers after they stop coming in?  I'm curious...

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu) '61 Panel, '68,'69 Beetles

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