From: hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
Summary: Keep your Victory to yourself.....
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:38:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <Bzo2G0.K5n@news.udel.edu> khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes:
>In article <Bzn13o.L05@sunfish.usd.edu> shariq@charlie.usd.edu writes:
>>In article <BzDKH2.KxL@news.udel.edu>, khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes:
>>>>>the atrocities organized by their souldiers in Bangladesh.  On learning
>>>>>the fact that the Pakistani souldiers killed 3 million (yes 3 million people) [stuff deleted] 
>>>>>in Bangladesh and raped 200,000 women and destroyed most of the infra-
>>>>>structure of the country in the name of Islam (!), most of my friends were
>>>>>shocked and very apologetic and felt ashamed to be a Pakistani.  As long
>>   Don't you think your figures are kind of overblown or exaggerated?
>>   Furthermore why should your Pakistani friends be ashamed of the action of
>>   some people they did not even know! By passing such a statement you are
>>   going to piss many Pakistanis off. Because of the provocative way you are 
>>   mentioning it. I don't know if I am misinformed or you are but I am
>Well, there is no point beating the dead horse.  These numbers are official.
>If you follow the article on scb then you'd know.  There were numerous articles on this issue.  My friends were probably more humane than many of the war criminal in Pakistan.  Besides, its a national issuse, not a personal issue.  So they
>don't have to know the war criminals personally in order to be ashamed.  Good
>citizens take responsibility of the actions done by the people or Army representing their nation.  Isn't it for the same reason why some government dismiss
>their cabinet or resign following a shameful act committed by others in the
>government.  Isn't it why BJP lead state govt. resigned in India.  Do you think
>the Chief Ministers of those state personally participated in Ayodhya riot?
>
>[stuff deleted]
>>>>>Show your courage and greatness today to the Bangladeshi people by
>>>>>apologizing for the atrocities organized by your previous generations.
>>>>>Congratulate the heroic Bangladeshis on their network soc.culture.bangladesh.
>>>>>
>>>>>Khaleq
>>>>
>>>In answer to your bashing on the present economic situation in Bangladesh,
>>>I like to mind you that one of the reason why Bangladesh is poor is the
>>>looting of our national property during 24-year rule.  Natural hazards are
>>>beyond our capacity.  If you're not stupid then you shouldn't have made a
>>>statement like this.  Because, natural calamities occur everywhere in
>>>the World.
>> Funny my Bengali friend says that India has sucked Bangladesh dry in the past
>> 20 years. If you would like to talk to him I will give you his address.
>
>See, not all people in a democratic society hold the same view.  It doesn't
>surprise me at all that some of the Bangladeshis feel that way.  I don't
>want to get personal so please don't give his address.
>
>>>collaborators.  They don't represent the mainstrem Bengalis, their blood
>>>is contaminated by Pakistanis.
>
>> Contaminated by Pakistanis.........Are real Bengalis god-send? And sorry to 
>> burst the bubble but many Bengalis come to Pakistan to seek employment, and
>> no they come with their own free will! Infact there are two Bengali boys
>> working at my grandmother's house in Karachi and they are just like family.
>
>Of course the real Bengalis are God-sent, who else could send them on this
>gracious land of SONAR BANGLA? You claim to be a muslim, yet don't know such
>basic facts?  Sigh!!
>
>[stuff deleted]
>>>
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Amar Sonar Bangla Ami Tomai Bhalobashi  (My Golden Bengal I love you)
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>OK Khaleq I expect a reply!
>>
>>
>>Shariq
>
>So Mr. Shariq did you get an answer from me or not?  See, arguing with facts
>and logic is something that we Bengalis are not affraid of, because we have
>so much of hard core facts and arguments to back up our claims.  I am ready to
>carry out a healthy discussion anytime.  Please tell your Paki friends no to
>send anymore death threats though, if you can.
>
>Khaleq
>
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>
>Who has turned our Golden Bengal into a barren land?  Tikka Khan (the Butcher
>of Bengal) and your associates will have to answer someday.
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>
Dear Khaleq,

I donot know which Jahils from Pakistan are sending death threats. 
If you have any b*lls, kindly let every one know, after all you are living
in a free society. 

Also, PakiAmericans and Pakistanis could care less what your Bangladeshis
problems are after twenty years. After all, if you guys are as Sonar as your
Bangla, how come Bangladesh is making more babies than food/economy for its
people. Japan btw was destroyed totally in 1945, in 1965 it was becoming a
power house of a nation with no local resources. 

So, please stop snivelling snot, and move on down the road.
Try doing something instead of complaining like a spoilt brat.

Best Regards to you and the rest of the Bengalis on the net,
Shams Hasan.
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