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From: hamaguch@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Ron Hamaguchi)
Subject: Re: A&A: Why does America fight Germany?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:35:09 GMT

In article <hassink.723878075@manning> hassink@cs.UAlberta.CA (Hassink Brian John) writes:
>I've read several posts now which seem to support the strategy of 
>America ignoring Japan and concentrating on Europe. Why?
>
>In the many games we've played, America ignore Germany (except to
>possibly ship a couple of units to Africa if Britain gets lousy
>rolls) and concentrates entirely on Japan. We've found that Russia
>and Britain alone are more than enough to keep Germany penned in,
>and eventually to overrun her.
>
>I suppose this strategy allows the
>allies to eliminate Germany much faster, but then Japan does'nt
>need to worry about protecting its homeland and can even threaten
>North America the way I see it.


You it yourself here, that it makes G.B. and Russia take germany faster
with U.S. help.  IMHO, Japan must, expand quickly and must win in its
first initial fights in east asia or else germany will eventually fall.

1) U.S. can ignore japan as if japan does ever build a big enough fleet to
threaten the west coast, I would be very impressed. Besides, you would be
able to see an attack on the west coast coming.

2) Russia, IMHO, is fighting a holding action, until the U.S. and G.B. can
come to help.

3) If I remember correctly, the U.S. has a carrier in the Pacific, that would
help keep the fleet in the Atlantic, specifically outside of G.B., intact so
much longer because of its planes in defensive mode, unless they changed this
rule.

4) Since I haven't playing in a while, I don't know if this would balance the
fight for germany, but, what happens if Germany is allowed to have the cheap
units from Tech Improvements, automatically.

5)If Japan cannot produce enough units in Asia to take pressure off of 
Germany from Russia, Axis will lose. It is true that Germany has alot of
Armor and Inf. but, they also will have to hold off, essentially, 2 1/2
nations, while Japan deals with Russia from the opposite side.  If the Axis,
can crack Russia, they will probably win the game.  If not, the combined might
of the Allies will.

All of the Above is IMHO, of course. :)
>
>Brian
>hassink@cs.ualberta.ca
>

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From: dxb105@huxley.anu.edu.au (David Bofinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Subject: Re: WIF question: China attack limit
Date: 20 Dec 1992 03:43:27 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec15.225026.22660@delfin.com>, gordon@delfin.com
(Gordon Hua) writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.015042.4900@athena.mit.edu>, cwk@athena.mit.edu
(Chuck Krueger) writes:
>> Are the number of aircraft that China can fly into these
>> sea zones at all limited by the China attack limit? If so, what about
>> the Japanese player's ability to counter these moves with
>> aircraft/CV's?

> This is pretty clearly spelled out.  Before the Major Offensive,
> China and Japan are limitted to flying in missions a maximum of the
> attack limit number of aircraft/CV.

That must put a pretty major crimp in raid on Pearl Harbour, if you're
only allowed to fly two CVs :-). I always thought it only applied to
attacks "in China", but I don't have a copy of the rules with me so
someone better quote it for us.

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David Bofinger                                   dxb105@phys.anu.edu.au
From: mcsbc3maw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Subject: Re: SFB: Getting back into it
Date: 10 Dec 92 14:00:54 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec8.063909.19642@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, labc-2fi@e260-1g.berkeley.edu (Matthew L. Seidl) writes:
> 
> I used to play SFB, about 6 years ago.  I was wondering what I need to buy
> to get back into it with all the new rules and supplements.  Basicly, 
> what do I need to play, and in what order should I buy things.  Esp. the
> basic rules.  An overall definition of what supplements exist and what
> they contain would also be very helpful.  THANKS!
> 
>  -=- Matthew L. Seidl
>      seidl@soda.berkeley.edu
> 
> .sig - never had one, never will


The Captain's edition consists of , at present .

	Basic set           ; As suspected the basic rules
			    ; Feds,Klingons,Roms,Kzinti,Gorn,Tholian,Orion
			    ; ships .
	Advanced Missions   ; More rules (Advanced level type stuff)
			    ; More ships for the above races.
	New Worlds C1       ; Data on Hydran,Lyran,Wyn
	New Worlds C2       ; Data on Andro,ISC,Neo-Tholians
	Module J            ; Fighters
	Module K	    ; PFs

	Module S1	    ; Scenarions
	Module R1           ; Generic Units (Bases etc)
	Module R2           ; More ships for Feds,Orion,Kzinti,Andro
	Module R3           ; More ships for Klingon,Lyran,Wyn,Hydran
	Module R4           ; More ships for Romulans,ISC,Gorn,Tholian
	Module R5           ; Big ships - Battleships,Battle control ships
			    ; Dreadnoughts(Orion/Wyn).
	Module D2           ; Tournament Tactics
	Tactics Manual      ; Speaks for it's self
	Module H1           ; Megahex package 1
	Module H2           ; Megahex package 2
	Captain's Logs      ; Depends how many you have but CL 9 & 10 are
			    ; Captains edition.


		The stuff before the Break is pretty essential

Mark
From: ccspad@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Paul Dale)
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Subject: Re: History of the World
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:33:48 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

In the referenced article, davidf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Fristrom) writes:
>
>It is quite a fun game, but after several plays we have noticed that
>the winner tends to be who ever draws the British Empire in the final
>phase, which means the previous several hours of play were pointless,
>if fun.  Perhaps AH will fine-tune things a bit -- although it is so
>close to perfection that they might be better off leaving well enough
>alone.

But knowing this a few things can be done to make things difficult. An
embarrassed Brit never got off his island when he built insufficient
fleets to beat the two that were in the North sea :-) The basic point
is correct though and has a corollary, the person who gets Japan on
the last turn isn't going to win (he'll probably have his hands full
just getting Japan).

It's a great game, very simple and a lot of fun. If you can find it,
buy it. Who thinks AH will continue to sell it with a tea towel
board ? :-)

>
>David Fristrom		|
>Interleaf, Inc.		|   "Words, words, words, I'm so sick of words"
>davidf@ileaf.com	|

Paul Dale
Systems admin./applications support/programmer.
BUCS, Bath University, Claverton Down, Bath, Avon. UK BA2 7AY
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Organization: Doctoral student, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:28:49 -0500 
From: Erik Lauer <el0g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: A&A world at war expasnsion-Japan 1st move

>After playing your senario the best I was able to do
>was get 6i in western US. The US then counter attacks
>with 1inf, 1arm, 1bom, 1fighter, and 1AA. Even if this
>fails next turn the US has 4 new inf 1inf from panama

True this battle can win, but usually will not.  Look at what you have:
1 1 (inf, can not be lost), 1 2, 2 3, 1 4.  slightly more points, fewer
units, losing units >= strength of the ones the Japanese lost.  I do not
have the rules, we must have missed the fact that banzai only effect 2
inf.

>and 1 inf from alaska for a total of 6, plus spend your
>1 extra IPC for one upgrade to mech inf., also britain moves
>1inf from canada and sends the brit fighter over. you now
>face 6 twos, 1 three, and a four.


We searched the rules, and could not find Britain going to war with
Japan just because Japan decalers war on the US.  If it does, obviously
Japan can not conquer the US.  In my plan, Japan takes Alaska on turn 2.
 Still, this first turn plan seems the best.  Russia is so huge in this
game, I think the axis must do a lot the first 5 turns.  US entry is not
that potent.  Big deal, 27 IPC can build them 4 inf.

.
.
.

>The situation is only "silly" if the UK does nothing
>to help their ally. Once the strategy is known it should
>be relativly easy to counter it with British help.

Of course the UK wanted to help!   Russia wants to help too, but is not
allowed to.  I think the UK should be allowed to help.  The scenario
seems pretty stupid that the axis chances are that Japan will conquer
the defensless puny US, a major war takes place in Africa with piles of
inf, and Russia crushes all (when they enter the war they can build over
20 inf per turn).

>Well, just MHO
>Happy Gameing!
>Larry

A good one, I guess we just could not find the correct rules.






Erik
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From: ccjm@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin Charles James MacDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Subject: Re: SFB:Base tractoring
Keywords: SFB
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:58:59 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University

In article <1992Dec14.151657.2494@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc3maw@dct.ac.uk writes:
>
>
>Anyone know what would happen is a ship moving at speed xx (>0)
>
>was to grab a base with a tractor beam when the base had stabalisers ???
>
>	This happened in a game and our on-the-spot ruling was that
>	
>a breakdown check would be required as the ship grinds to a stop 
>
>suddenly.Looking at the rules later (cursitory scan only i admit) i couldn't
>
>find anything there about this situation.
>
>	Mark.


Oooh, bunnies. I can't remember where it is, but I am pretty sure
that tractoring of bases is simply not allowed (referred to as the
Gorn Brake or something), otherwise you get people using them as 
anchors.

-----
Colin
-----
Newsgroups: rec.games.backgammon
From: joe@oilean.islandsw.com (Joe McGuckin)
Subject: Desperate for copy of Magriel...
Organization: Island Software
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:14:31 GMT

Anyone know where I can find one?

-- 

Joe McGuckin             joe@islandsw.com
Island Software    	 oilean!joe@sgi.com
(415) 969-5453
Newsgroups: rec.games.backgammon
From: ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.)
Subject: Re: Desperate for copy of Magriel...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:33:44 GMT

joe@oilean.islandsw.com (Joe McGuckin) writes:

>Anyone know where I can find one?

Go to a bookstore and special order it?  It's an old book, so it's hard to
find in stores.  Not that stores tend to be to big up on backgammon books.


			- Frank Wang / ch'od
From: mcb@PRESTO.IG.COM ("Michael C. Berch")
Newsgroups: rec.games.backgammon
Subject: Test message -- ignore
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:39:23 GMT
Reply-To: "Backgammon strategy" <BKGAMMON@indycms.iupui.edu>

This is a test of the BKGAMMON <--> rec.games.backgammon Usenet
gateway.  This should be seen on BKGAMMON and exactly once in the
newsgroup.

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Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: jclesar@unix.amherst.edu (Jen)
Subject: Asstd. Lyrics addition
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:13:06 GMT

Hi, sorry, somebody appears to have gotten in under the pumpkin bell, so 
there's one more person to be added to the standings:

Steve Hammond, 7 points

(sorry for not getting you in with the rest, Steve!)

Jen & Meredith

Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From:  kirby_dave@tandem.com (Decay)
Subject: Twisted Christmas Trivia (ANSWER)
Followup-To: rec.games.trivia
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:27:11 GMT


The names of Santa's ten reindeer are:

   Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner, Blitzen,
   and Rudolph.

   And Olive.  Olive is the "other" reindeer.  As it says in the song, 
   "...Olive, the other reindeer, used to laugh and call him names..."

The same to you, but merry Christmas anyway.


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From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: TRI-Level MOVIE QUOTE QUIZ VIII
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:07:41 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University


				MOVIE QUOTE QUIZ VIII
 		              TOP SCORES WILL BE POSTED
				   12/29/92	

	SEE MOVIE QUIZ VII FOR RULES.

    				The EASY Ones!
1. "If you ever need anything, Dental floss, whatever, give me a call."

2. "Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?"

3. "What's the dog's name?"....[3 lines deleted] "Your foster parents are
    dead."

4. "He's just acting out the secret agent part of his ego trip."
	"That's Not possible!"
   "Why?"
	"Because we haven't implanted it yet."

5. "Where does he get those wonderful toys?"

6. "Go that way very fast if anything gets in your way turn!"

7. "Cameron is so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up his ass in 6 weeks
    you'd have a diamond."

8. "Do I get a gun?"
	"No!" (Two people in harmony)

9. "I made my family dissapear. I made my family DISAPEAR!!!"

10. "Wear a dress, panties are optional."

			   The AVERAGE Quotes

1. "Remeber it, write it down, tell it so that they can use the chance she has
    given them." 

2. "Who's you're big brother?"
	"You are Steven."

3. "You moved the headstones, but you didn't move the graves."

4. "You have your fathers eyes,"
	"and my mother's ears the rest belong to you."

5. "You're not thinking 4th Dimmensionally."
	"Yeah, I have a problem with that."

6. "A Kojak with Kodak."

7. "When I'm wrong I say I'm wrong. You looked wonderful out there."

8. "And what do we covet?"
	"We covet what we see."

9. "I killed my mother's son, I killed my father's son."

10. "That's a good job for me 'Crash Dummy'."
	 
    			      CLASSIC MOVIES (The Difficult Quotes)

1. "You're like the thief who's not sorry they stole but terribly sorry they
    are going to jail."	

2. "Are you a master builder or a master butcher?"

3. "The king without a sword, the land without a king."

4. "Don't go, Miss Anna."

5. "Osgood you don't understand we can't get married."
     	"Why?"
   "I snore."
	" That's ok."
   "I can never have children."
	"We can adopt."
   "Oh you don't understand, I'm a man."
	"Nobody's perfect."
		
Have Fun! and Happy Holidays!
Rai.
_______________________________________________________________________________

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I'd rock you till the daylight comes                Raina Weinberg
make sure you are smiling and warm,          _Memphis State University_
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mother do such things to ease your pain
free your mind and you won't be the         MCSWEINBERG@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU
same."   Sophie B. Hawkins
_______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From:  (kirby_dave@tandem.com (Decay))
Subject: Re: "A Christmas Carol" Trivia Quiz
Followup-To: rec.games.trivia
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:34:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.221125.3376@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>,
vvdat@diamond.lerc.nasa.gov (Deborah Griffin) wrote:
> 
> I think it would be helpful if you told us what version of Scrooge you
> are basing your questions on because the answers do differ depending on 
> the version. (i.e. there are at least a dozen versions I can think of off the
> top of my head).
> 
> Hey, maybe you should add that questions as a bonus quiz!  How many differnt
> versions of the original Scrooge story can you think of?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Deborah A. Griffin                     vvdat@diamond.lerc.nasa.gov
> NASA Lewis Research Center             (216) 433-6775
> Cleveland, Ohio  44135
> "If you think you can, you can.  If you think you can't, you're right!"


The intro to the quiz indicated that we're talking only about the original
book 
by Charles Dickens.  However, your message sent me scrambling to check my
two
editions, published 90 years apart, against each other to see if there were
any differences.  I'm happy to report that the publishers of the later
edition
were wise enough to leave Mr. Dickens's words intact.  (I didn't have time
to 
check _all_ the words in both books, but the answers to the questions were 
verbatim in both editions.)  

_But_there's_one_exception_:  the newer edition of the book declined to
give 
the older, longer title, calling it just "A Christmas Carol."  I suspect a
lot 
of newer editions do the same.  So _scrap_ the first question (unless you
get 
it right, of course; if I didn't give you a point for it then, "You'd think

yourself ill used, I'll be bound").


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Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: nobby@stein.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov)
Subject: Re: Zed's Trivia Quiz Part Three Answers
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:47:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.182750.29711@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:

[... other answers deleted ...]

>6. (1 point) In 1928, the first US television station began
>broadcasting.  From what city?
>Schenectady, NY.  The station is still broadcasting as WRGB.

Could you give a pointer to the source? I'm not protesting,
just wondering.

>--Ted Schuerzinger
>email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
>"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
>was 'Russian Vodka'."

nobby@u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia,rec.arts.tv
From: jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood)
Subject: Re: Repost: Dascoser's Nickname Quiz
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:09:25 GMT

Some new ones

Lovey Howell

The Skipper

The Professor

Gilligan

Which of these had real names...

Answers follow






























l
L

Lovey Howell is her real name as is Gilligan (no last or other name ever given)

The Skipper is Jonas Grumby

The Proffessor is (I may have this wrong) Roy Hinkley

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
J.P.
email: Blackwood.1@osu.edu

"The rule which forbids ending a sentence with a preposition is one up with
which I will not put."
                                              -Winston Churchill
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: Zed's Trivia Quiz Part Three Answers
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:03:28 GMT
 <1992Dec12.074724.22477@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

The following is from the "Encyclopedia Americana":

"Ernest F. W. Alexanderson, who worked at the General Electric (GE)
laboratories in Schenectady, NY, began daily TV tests on the
experimental station W2XAD in 1928.  On Sept. 11, 1928, GE presented
the first dramatic production on television.  It was 'The Queen's
Messenger', with the sound carried on radio station WGY....  In 1931
the Radio Corporation of America (RCA) made experimental tests over
station W2XBS in New York...."

Incidentally, WGY was for many years the sister station of WRGB; to
this day their studios are in the same building.  (Assuming WGY is
still on the air -- they recently filed for bankruptcy.  I haven't
listened to Capital District radio for a few years now, so I'm not
positive.)

I hope that clears things up for everybody.

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have known it would be bad vodka when all the label said was
'Russian Vodka'."
From: hm00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (HOWARD JAY MILLER)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: Assorted Lyrics quiz answers
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:46:08 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Next to the artist / title is a number denoting the number of people who got
>the whole question (ie, artist and title) right.
>
>6. "This will be my testimony."
>Peter Gabriel / Sledgehammer (19)

Doesn't Amy Grant's 'Every Heartbeat' also fit here?
Did anybody else catch this or is it just me?

Howard
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From: rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: trivia contests
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:51:05 GMT
Organization: Mike Singletary Appreciation Society

In article <1992Dec15.125532.27958@ms.uky.edu> morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) writes:
>We could set up a channel on IRC <and/or BITNET RELAY>; one person local to
>Stevens Point would handle calling the station, and he would give us all the
>questions as they are announced.  Prizes could be sent to whomever gave the
>right answer.......8)

This thought occured to me a couple of years ago when I found out about
a similar event that some radio station in Ft. Collins, CO, runs each year.
Imagine the aggregate triviapower we could bring to bear with each of
us sitting at home (or in our offices), reference material at the ready,
and tuned in to the same IRC channel.  We'd probably have to all agree
to donate the prizes to charity or something, but that seems a small
hurdle to clear.  I'm all for organizing something along these lines
and giving it a trial run or two *before* the contest to shake out the bugs.

What a novel way to tap the human and computer resources of the network!

---Rsk
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia,rec.music.misc,misc.misc,rec.misc
From: rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen)
Subject: Re: Secret Agent Man meets Mack the Knife
Reply-To: rons@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:46:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec2.135708.20586@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF) writes:

>I'm looking for the words to "Secret Agent Man" and "Mack The Knife."

	Do not ask the people on alt.tv.prisoner. They will only answer
"That would be telling."

	-Josh Ronsen
	rons@midway.uchicago.edu



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From: hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.trivia,rec.arts.tv
Subject: TV QUIZ #3
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:27:54 -0600
Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: uakari.primate.wisc.edu


     Following is the third in a series of 10 tv quizzes.  The
total number of points available from quiz #3 is 10.  
     Please send your answers to hamel@primate.wisc.edu.  Do NOT
post to the net.  Thank you, and may the good trivia be yours.
     Answers and running player totals will be provided shortly
after the deadline.
 
=================================================================
 
TV QUIZ #3
     Identify the tv series that featured the following married
couples.  Each correct answer earns you one point.  Because of
the impending holiday season, the deadline for this quiz is
pushed back to January 19, 1993.
 
1.  Sylvia and Leo Schnauzer
2.  Betty and Barney Rubble
3.  Kay and Roger Addison
4.  Joan and Jim Nash
5.  Emily and Robert Hartley
6.  Katharine and George Papadopolis
7.  Lisa and Oliver Douglas
8.  Emily and Walter Collins
9.  Cindy and Jim Walsh
10.  Vivian and Philip Banks
 
Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
hamel@primate.wisc.edu