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From: dreimer@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Reimer D - Wilfrid Laurier U)
Subject: Re: Word Processors for DOS (not Windows) - What's out there?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:06:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.125926.6864@calspan.com> lochocki@hercules.uucp (Joe Lochocki) writes:

>Something simple, cheap, and pretty effective is a copy of Wordstar.  I
>use ver. 5.0 which I got in a bundle from DAK.  I think you can still
>buy ver 5.5 from them for $9.95 plus s&h. [...]
>
>Joe Lochocki (I am not a DAK employee...just real cheap.)

Menitoning WordStar brings the wonderful little VDE editor to mind. It
is based on WordStar. But it also has limited read/write capabilities
to Word"Perfect", XyWrite/Nota Bene, MS Word, etc. It also has a menu-bar
system, includes some standard printer drivers (including lasers) and
basic text formatting options. It also has a built in "macro" system
and allows on-the-fly programmed editing. It was "freeware"; the author
now suggests a registration fee (nominal). It is at SIMTEL and mirrors
as VDE163.ZIP in the msdos/editors directory. *Well* worth a look.

Hope this helps.
David.
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From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: kermit adds ~500 bytes to a downloaded *.ZIP file
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 01:43:23 GMT

I apologize for asking such a basic question, but the
title says all. Of course, the file cannot be unpacked.
I'm using Procomm Plus 1.1B to download the file from a
UNIX machine, to which the file was in turn downloaded from
ftp.cica.indiana.edu (the size here was the same).
The file type in Procomm is set to binary; the ASCII
value of the 8th byte quote character is set to 38.
What gives?

Tony



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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Stacker's TRUE compression ratio
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:01:28 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson) writes:

> A note to new readers:  the weasely :-) symbol is frowned upon in this
> group.  Any questions, see Phil Gustafson who will gladly rearrange your
> diodes for you.

That's funny! :-)

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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: C advice
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:32:30 GMT

In <25042@oasys.dt.navy.mil> cmiller@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Catherine Miller) writes:

>Howdy all.
>    I have just been informed by a possible employer that learning
>to program in C would be a really good idea.  I've been looking
>around for information and now I'm confused.
>    Why is Microsoft C $400 and BC++ $80?  Obviously there's
>some difference (or maybe not).  I usually run thru Windows
>on my system (Gateway 2000 486).  If I go for Borland, should
>I get the Windows version, even tho I don't plan on doing
>Windows programming?

This ought to go into a FAQ somewhere.  First, are you sure it was
BC++ and not TC++ that you saw (or have they changed their marketing
on me again)?  Anyway, the Microsoft compiler you saw comes with the
full Windows development kit, etc.  I suspect the Borland product you
saw is much smaller (no separate debugger, profiler, etc.).  Borland
has a package that is in the same price range, which is Borland C++.
It is both a Windows and DOS compiler, and comes with IDE's for both
Windows and DOS.  It also has a lot of other goodies, like separate
debugger, assembler, and profiler.  For more money you can buy OWL,
which is a library to make writing Windows code easier.

Anyway, if you're just interested in learning C, get something cheap. 

>    This possible employer has a UNIX system.  How different
>is UNIX C from DOS C from DOS C++?

UNIX C can be quite different from DOS C, depending on the UNIX and
what C compiler they're using.  There are also going to be a lot of
'DOSisms' that are caused by the difference in processor and
environment (from the UNIX box).

How different is C from C++?  Most C++ compilers for DOS include an
ANSI C compiler in the package.  Given this question, I would invest
my money in some good books on C, instead (or in addition) of a
compiler. 

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From: IIC1112@malloco.ing.puc.cl (AyudantesIIC1112)
Subject: 4dos and ndos
Organization: Departamento de Computacion, Universidad Catolica de Chile
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:42:53 GMT

NDOS IS 4DOS 3.03 -- purxhased by Symantec. 4DOS' latest version is 4.01
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Memory test software
From: D Leavitt <DJLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 12 Sep 1992 01:44:36 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

You may want to check out a company called Public Brand Software at
800-426-3475.  They have PD/SW memory utilities, plus a whole lot of other
stuff.  Call and ask for a catalog or call their BBS at 317-856-2087.
Or you can download the files from Compuserve.  Just say GO ZNT:PBS.

Hope this is helpful.

In article <BuG4np.KKG@iat.holonet.net>, kellys@orac.holonet.net (Kelly
Schwarzhoff) says:
>
>Does anyone know of a good PD/Shareware memory test program?  The reason is
that
I recently upgrade from 4 MB to 8 MB because I was going to install OS/2.  It
worked fine with DOS (the new memory), but when I tried to install OS/2 OS/2
puked. After talking to numerous people I found out it was the new memory
and I'm now installing it with just the old 4 MB and it appears to be working.
So...I want to figure out what happened instead of replacing ALL of them.

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From: kaykit@iti.gov.sg (Chan Kay Kit)
Subject: Help needed for extended memory management
Reply-To: kaykit@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:03:29 GMT


Hello everyone!

	I have programmed for DOS for a fairly long time but recently I ran 
into memory management difficulties. 

	My program requires a lot of memory for dynamic data (eg. a 1.2 MB 
contiguous block) and thus needs to access extended memory. However, since I 
am only producing a prototype to show concepts, I do not wish to get entangled
in Windows programming. In other words, it would be best if I could just program 
as per normal as possible, with much of the work of managing the extended memory 
done by the compiler or some DOS extender.

	I would appreciate it very much if anyone can supply helpful tips to
satisfying the above requirements, and/or answers to the questions below:


(i) Does anyone know if Borland C++ or Zortech C++ allows one to write
and compile DOS programs that automatically use extended memory if 
necessary? What work must be done by the programmer, if any, to manage the 
extended memory? Is the extra work required so much that a switch to the
Windows environment would be more productive instead?

(ii) Any other C language products that come with extended memory management
facilities? 


	Please email replies to kaykit@iti.gov.sg. Thanks in advance!



Kay Kit



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From: DJLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET (D Leavitt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Paradox 4.0 upgrade
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:43:54 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <shopsis.2@panther.adelphi.edu>, shopsis@panther.adelphi.edu (Charles
Shopsis) says:
>
>We run Paradox 3.5 on a LAN, and it will probably be a while before the
>network is upgraded to Paradox 4.  I have set up a database on the LAN with
>3.5 that several people use.  If I buy a personal copy of 4.0 and use it to
>update data on the tables that are shared on the LAN, will that data still
>be readable by Paradox 3.5?  The stuff I've read about 4.0 in advertisements
>and news releases hasn't been very clear about file compatiblity.
>

According to the preliminary reviews that appeared before Paradox 4.0 shipped,
the new version stores data in a different format than 3.5.  Check this out
since it sounds like 3.5 can't read 4.0
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From: brabec@pysgjb.physics.ncsu.edu (Charles Brabec)
Subject: Is anything wrong with 386Max?
Organization: NCSU Physics, Condensed Matter Theory
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:01:17 GMT

I've recently gotten a 486/33 with 210Mb IDE hard drive. I also got
Microsoft's C/C++ 7.0 package which includes 386MAX memory manager
package. I am running 386MAX on my machine now and have been pretty much
since I first got the machine.

A friend of mine said he'd heard that 386max has an undocumented problem
that causes it to trash IDE drives. (I emphasize that this is a 2nd hand
RUMOR, not intended to trash Qualitas or 386MAX) Since he mentioned
that to me I've noticed that my hard disk periodically makes a sort of
wirring-grunting sound that lasts about 1-2 seconds. (I'd almost call
it a constipated HD sound :) This happens independent of whether or not
I'm accessing the disk. I've noticed it mostly while using Procomm Plus for
Windows and the POV-raytracer, but then again those are just the two programs
I've been using most frequently. 

Anyway, if anyone knows anything about this, be it a true or false rumor, 
please let me know. If it is true, please reccomend a different memory
manager so I can still run C/C++. 

Please reply by E-mail and I will summarize to the net (to save bandwidth)

Thanks,
Charles
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From: snodgras@cs.unca.edu (Ryan Snodgrass)
Subject: DOS MAC disk reader
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:14:43 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get a program to read MAC disks on a IBM
disk drive?  I remember a few months ago someone gave an FTP address for
a program that read the high density disks on an IBM high density drive.
I FTPed that and it worked great, but it must have accidentaly gotten deleted
somehow, and I want to get another copy of it but I forgot the filename.
Any suggestions where such a beast might be?  Thanks,

Ryan Snodgrass
snodgrass@uncavx.unca.edu
snodgrass@unca.bitnet


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From: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dick Cleek)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect on a network?
Originator: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:23:21 GMT

From article <14632@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, by award@farside.auspex.com (Andrew Ward):
> I want to install a regular version of Wordperfect 5.1 for dos
> on a lantastic network. I would like to install it in a read-only
> directory, but of course, WordPerfect wants to set up some lock
> files or other files. and so wants r/w access to it's directory.

The manual has a good  chapter on exactly this question.

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From: adam@research.nj.nec.com (Adam Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: PC SQL databases?
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:00:09 GMT
Reply-To: adam@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Originator: adam@acapella


Can anyone recommend a reasonably-priced database package for the PC?
If not, how about an unreasonably-priced one?

Thanks...

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From: vanwalle@ocpt.ccur.com (Van Wallendael)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Word Processors for DOS (not Windows) - What's out there?
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:35:25 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation, Oceanport NJ
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Jim Reisert (reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com) wrote:
: 
: I am in the market for a DOS-based (not Windows) word processor.
: What's out there?
: 
: 	- Word 5.5
: 	- WordPerfect 5.1
: 	- Ami Pro (is there a non-windows version?)
: 	- Others like MultiMate, WordStar, etc.
: 
: What do people recommend for ease of learning/use?  The software will
: probably just be used to create straight text, no fancy graphics, etc.
: What are latest versions?
: 
: Thanks - Jim
: 
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>
>Symantec makes Q&A, which is a flat file database package.  Included with
>this is a nice and easy word processor called "Write".  I think it's even
>sold as a seperate product.  We also use Professional Write which is very
>straight forward.  My recommendation to to call Symantec or your local
>vendor.
>Symantec Corp
>10201 Torre Avenue
>Cupertino, CA 95014
>
>Regards and good luck.
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From: meoverga@cs.ruu.nl (Maiko Overgaauw)
Subject: DRDOS runs too slowly
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:43:06 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: NEEDED HELP


I have a 80286 machine running DRDOS. but under msdos it was never so slow as now. Does anyone have a sollution for this
problem. I read in PCM that you can use driver.sys in combination with assign but that isn't very usefull. When you have a
sollution, please let me know. 


                   UNIX-adres: meoverga@praxis.cs.ruu.nl
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From: B249236@vmtecqro.qro.itesm.mx (Elite of the NetWork)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: DR DOS vs 4dos+Msdos+Stacker
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:06:49 GMT
Organization: Instituto Tecnologico de Monterrey, Campus Queretaro

Here's my system:
 
4dos/stacker/nansi/ramdrive/smartdrive/print/smartcan/vshield/boot/qemm/qdpmi
....5Kb of aliases and some minor TSR's
 
634235 bytes free and 4MB RAM.     (And a really big computer-like prompt)
 
What can I say?  I love it!!   :-)
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: Paradox 4.0 upgrade
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:08:31 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <shopsis.2@panther.adelphi.edu> shopsis@panther.adelphi.edu (Charles Shopsis) writes:

>[If I] update data on the tables that are shared on the LAN, will that 
data still 
>be readable by Paradox 3.5?  The stuff I've read about 4.0 in 
advertisements 
>and news releases hasn't been very clear about file 
compatiblity.


This will almost certainly cause great grief.
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From: mhirsch@algorithms.princeton.edu (Michael Hirsch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Shutting down Geocomm
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:42:46 GMT
	<Sep.11.23.36.39.1992.26122@pilot.njin.net>
	<MHIRSCH.92Sep13225739@algorithms.princeton.edu>
	<Sep.14.14.17.52.1992.17223@pilot.njin.net>
Organization: Princeton University Department of Computer Science
Originator: news@nimaster

>>>>> On 14 Sep 92 18:17:53 GMT, birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) said:

Shag> mhirsch@algorithms.princeton.edu (Michael Hirsch) writes:

>But you can't use the TaskMAX swapper while your modem is active.  At
>least, I can't.  When I try it tells me that my com port is active.

>That strikes me as strange.  I can swap out any of my other comm
>programs using TaskMAX.

>Anyone solved this problem?

Shag> I don't know if what you're doing is the same as what I'm doing,
Shag> but I've had no problem running Zmodem as an external protocol -
Shag> which does use the task swapper.

I haven't tried that exactly, I  just try to swap to a dos job
(generally command).

Shag> As I've mentioned tons of times, I've got DTR recognition turned
Shag> off on my modem.  

Yeah, I've tried that, I think.  That's AT &D0, right?  The problem
isn't with my modem hanging up, but that DRDOS won't let me swap cause
my COM port is busy.  It doesn't give me that error when DRDOS swaps
out my DOS Comm job, so it must have something to do with an
interaction between geoworks and drdos.
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From: mhirsch@algorithms.princeton.edu (Michael Hirsch)
Subject: Re: Dogma
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:57:00 GMT

>>>>> On 14 Sep 92 17:12:29 GMT, CHEESE%ETDAI2.decnet@etd88a.mdc.com (CHEESE B-}) said:

CHEESE> I can see already that MBB will never change his views even if
CHEESE> GWE became the first sentient operating system ever built.
CHEESE> He'd want it to iron his shirts too!  I'm truly sorry that MBB
CHEESE> cannot find the time to adjust his system config to accomplish
CHEESE> what he wants, or has noone to help him get there.

Jeez, cheese, give him a break.  The only thing wrong with what he
said is the way he said it.  I pretty much agree with everything he
said, and I'm a goeworks fan!  The so called apps really are pathetic.
Just don't think off them as apps.  As desk accessories they are
great!  I can't wait for real apps to come out.

Perhaps he was whining a bit too hard.  He certainly is less flexible
than most of us in this group.  He knows what he wants in an
OS/app/dessert-topping and won't settle for less.  Bully for him.  And
he spent the time to ask us if there were any cures for his
complaints.  When the answer was no he said "I don't think it is a
good product."  I happen to disagree with him, but newsgroups are here
for discussing opinions.

CHEESE> MBB reminds me of those dogmatics in the Pro-Choice (read
CHEESE> Pro-Death) Pro-Life (read Pro-Anti-Choice) debates.

And those of you on the other side of the argument are like the
dogmatics on the other side of the so-called debate.  On person even
said <misquote alert!> "I disagree with you so I am going to have my
newsreader kill you."  Boy, talk about dogmatic.
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From: mbb@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (martin.brilliant)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: RE: Shutting down Geocomm
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:13:44 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Sep11.140558.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, by slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca:
>> One of the first things I did with it was set up GeoComm instead
>> of my usual terminal emulator, dial up a remote system,
>> and look for files  to download.  Having found one, I decided
>> I ought to jump to DOS to see whether I already had
>> it in any directory 
>  
> I've often thought that being able to jump to DOS without shutting
> down GEOS would be a useful feature.  Of course, I can do it with the
> DR DOS TaskMAX, but a DOS session within a GEOS window q would be
> usefull.

You can do what with DR DOS TaskMAX?  You can jump from GEOS to DRDOS
without shutting down GEOS?  Or you can jump from DRDOS to DRDOS?
If DRDOS will enable me to run a DOS task without shutting down GEOS,
then DRDOS is a valuable adjunct to GEOS (besides all its own virtues),
and I might be persuaded to buy DRDOS instead of giving up on GEOS.

> BTW, how come you didn't simply look for that file using the 
> GeoManager?

Because I have hundreds of directories on my hard drives, and dozens
of floppies.  I do not walk manually through every directory, and put
every floppy into the floppy drive, and display the directory in each
one individually.  If that's the best GEOS can offer, it's not for
real users.  MS-DOS has several fast file finders, and several disk
cataloguers, available on the net or on sources known to the net.

From the MS-DOS command line, I use a program called WIZ that I give
a filename, or just the beginning of a filename, and it searches every
directory on my hard drives.  If WIZ doesn't find it, I run CATDISK,
on which I have catalogued every archive I put on floppies, and tell
it to search either by filename or comment.

By the way, what bothered me most was that PC/GEOS disconnected my
modem with no warning and no second chance.  Windows will not let me
shut it down if there's a task running that should not be abruptly
terminated.  I expected GEOS to be equally user-friendly.

My mistake was that I was oversold on GeoWorks.  I read too many
articles that said GEOS was what Windows should have been.  But it
isn't.  Windows tries to multitask not only its own special
applications but also DOS applications.  Admittedly, it doesn't do
that quite successfully.  But GEOS doesn't try to do that at all.  It
stays within its own little World, never venturing outside, so of
course it has less trouble.  For my money, that's nothing ventured,
nothing gained.

							Marty
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