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From: dj@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Teletext in the U.S. ? (Re: More about CNN International)
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:45:20 GMT
Organization: :noitazinagrO

In article <4051@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <HANS.92Sep10123514@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:
><
><That doesn't surprise med, really. When I visited the U.S. for the
><first time last month, I discovered that nobody I asked had heard of
><teletext. Does teletext exist at all in the United States ? 
>
>Nope!

Well, yes, up to a point.  There's "Closed Caption" service available
for many programs on various channels, both broadcast and cable.  This
puts up a box with text in over the top of a picture to provide a 
transcription of the sound for deaf viewers.  There's a similar
capability in Ceefax/Oracle in the UK.

Apart from that, there's no "piggyback" teletext, where the text signal
is carried on unused lines the picture.  On the other hand, many cable
systems carry channels devoted to various information screens, such as
weather maps, program listings, even houses for sale (with pictures).

I think the problem, as with so many things in the US, is the highly
fragmented nature of the TV industry.  It's one thing for the Beeb to
announce it will convert its transmitters for teletext.  
It's quite another to convert several thousand
transmitters across the US, each serving a single TV station in a small
area.  Admittedly, the stations tend to be owned by a much smaller
number of media conglomerates, but the profit motive always makes them
look at the bottom line and say: How will it make us more money?  Short
of putting ads in each teletext screen, the answer is, it won't.  It
can't be a coincidence that the Closed Caption system was pioneered by
the non-profit Public Broadcasting Service.  Even now the captions
themselves are created by a non-profit organisation.

The big changes in TV technology recently have been improved colour (bad
colour upsets the advertisers) and stereo sound, both of which help to
hold audiences, who are the real "commodity" in the industry.



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From: clgp15@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: ST.TNG/DEEP SPACE NINE
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:41:48 GMT

As the B.B.C made such a cock up over the rights to ST.TNG, I hope they
plan to make up for this by buying the right( all of them) for Deep Space
Nine, the spin off to ST.TNG.This show is due to go out soon in America, and I
was wondering if anyone knows of it's fate in the U.K, ie.are the B.B.C,
going to show it or mayby even channel.Though judging by thier past record
it will probably be forgotten about by the all of them, and end up getting
picked up by SKY, much to the annoyance of the dishless.
Organization: University of Maryland at Baltimore
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 03:41:32 EST
From: <CHUNTER@UMAB.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: TOS picture quality on Beeb
 <1992Sep4.113906.8071@syma.sussex.ac.uk>

In article: <1992Sep4.113906.8071@syma.sussex.ac.uk>,
andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) writes:

> Right - TOS in the UK always used to start immediately with the "Space -
> the final frontier...." bit and do all the credits before the story
> actually started. I *thought* there was something different about it this
> time around. Having got used to ST:TNG it didn't really register at first.

Not so.  I remember when TOS was originally shown on BBC1 in the early '70s
(7.10-8.00pm on Mondays, just before Panorama) and the precredit sequence
came before the "Space, the final frontier" opening credit sequence, just
like it was supposed to.  I'm pretty certain they were not cut either.  It
was only in latter years that they moved the precredit sequence to after the
credits and began cutting episodes (and banned "Miri").  I think (and here
I'm not so sure) that they also retained the teaser at the end for the
following week's episode.  "Mission: Impossible" was also shown with the "Your,
mission, Jim, should you choose to accept it" sequence before the opening
credits.  Ah, those were the days........

> Picture quality not at all bad IMHO. I still have to pinch myself about the
> acting, props and storylines, but then I'm still hung over from ST:TNG.

Why should the picture quality be bad?  TOS was made on 35mm film and I know
the the original elements are in good condition as I have many episodes on
LaserDisc which would show up any flaws.  If anything, I'd expect TNG to have
poor picture quality because all editing is done on NTSC.  Remember the final
few years of "Dallas" where the colours were insipid and unnatural?  Lorimar
edited in NTSC then conveted to PAL before shipping copies to the BBC.  The
earlier years were edited on film so there were no standards conversion
problems.  If TNG didn't exhibit poor colour, it's probably because Paramout
sent NTSC masters to the BBC which then did their own standards conversion
(the BBC engineering department has much better NTSC->PAL standards converters
than almost anybody in the US has).  If Sky now has TNG, picture quality may
suffer since you will now be at the mercy of either their or Paramount's
NTSC->PAL standards converter which is almost certainly not as good as the
BBC's.  It will be interesting to see how this develops.
From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Sky TV - *Mostly* Pathetic
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:50:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <1992Sep5.152243.15209@cs.hw.ac.uk>, neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
> Probably because this is rec.arts.tv.uk, most of the stuff shown on Sky
> belongs in rec.arts.tv.usa.60's.

Yep - now they've taken off "Santa Barbara" and "Designing Women" (now moved
to the scrambled Comedy Channel), Sky One is a waste of time. However, some of
the other channels aren't as bad:

Sky Sports: Showing US Open Tennis *live and unscrambled*. Where the f**k is the
            BBC's coverage ? Answer - they spent all their money on saturating
            the airwaves with Wimbledon. Did anyone notice that the Man. Utd.
            vs. Leeds match on Sky Sports last Sunday was *unscrambled* when it
            was supposed to be scrambled ?? I bet all the suckers who forked
            out 3 or 6 quid a month won't be happy to learn this.

Eurosport: Covers the two practice sessions, the warm-up, the whole race and
           the post-match interviews of every Formula 1 GP this season, again
           *live and unscrambled*. The commentators (esp. John Watson) are also
           infinitely superior to those prats Walker and Hunt on the BBC's
           coverage. Also has better live coverage of the IAAF athletics
           meetings around Europe.

Screensport: Weekly coverage of US Baseball.

Lifestyle Satellite Jukebox is useful for catching up on pop videos you missed,
whilst MTV Europe has its moments (Unplugged, Hit List UK).

CNN International is an excellent way of keeping up on US news ("CNN Showbiz
Today" is a good entertainment show to catch at 10.30pm UK time).

RTL Plus, a German channel, has some risque (i.e. nude) shows on Fridays and
Saturdays and have just started a teletext service too.

> Sky really is poor and taking a look through
> this weeks schedule in the TV times, all that interests me are the 2 movie
> channels.

I'd agree that Sky One and the Lifestyle Channel are the pits, but the rest
often have some good stuff on them. Put it this way - I watch more satellite
TV than I do BBC 1, but considering the s**t that's on BBC 1 nowadays, it's
not difficult is it ?

Anyway, check out my other posting (about ST:TNG) to prove that Sky One has
done something RIGHT for once !

Richard K. Lloyd, 
Computer Science Dept.,   JANET     : rkl@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci
Liverpool University,     Internet  : rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk
Merseyside, England,    Q: "What's the world's fastest home micro ?"
Great Britain.          A: "The Archimedes A3000. 4 MIPS for under 800 pounds."
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From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: Batman Cartoon
Organization: Fordham University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:46:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: mary.fordham.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

What a beautifully crafted cartoon!  Nice animation (no, I'm not an expert)
it just looks so stylish, and dark, that I love it.
- Darin
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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Banned in USA is now UNbanned in USA
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 00:35:47 GMT

dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown) writes:

>cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
>>Deborah M. Brown writes:
>>>This morning's USA Today reports that a federa judge in Mississippi
>>>has ruled that the anti-cehsorship documentary may be shown in
>>>the United States, despite the objections of Donald Wildmon.
>[overly brief description of this Wildmon character]
>
>>I've seen the documentary.  The gentleman in question stated his views
>>very plainly.  If i were him i'd want to keep it out of the US too!
>>He makes no bones about the fact that his organization doesn't want
>>people to have the choice to accept their values or not.  
>
>His every action proves that I'm afraid.  Every time this guy excretes 
>another newsletter, we Americans come 'this much' closer to losing
>all rights to choose what we see, think or hear.

Have you ever seen the move _The_Handmaid's_Tale_?  I guarantee that even
while Wildmon and his ilk hand down their judgements from Mt. Sinai, they
will get what they want above and beyond their 'law'.  I don't believe for
a second he would take his own medicine.  Bakker and Swaggart were
just stupid enough to get caught.
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From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Subject: Re: Buffy & 90210
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:49:49 GMT
Organization: Not
Keywords: Buffy 90210

ian@arts.su.oz.au (Ian Thornton) writes: 

> Has anyone seen the movie 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Killer ?). Just
> wondered if Luke Perry was as good as his haircut on the trailer ? Not
> even sure if the movie will have been released in the US.

Well, it was out for at least a weekend. I liked it. 

I thought it was funny, it obviously wasn't intended to take itself seriously.
Luke Perry got to play a semi-alcoholic "loser" character who the debs look down
on. I thought he was really good, he seemed perfectly natural to me (not meaning
he made a good "loser" but that he really did seem to be your average
normal non-rich person as permuted for a movie stereotype. The acting was
good, but the writing could have been better) In fact, the writing could
have been better for the whole thing - parts of it are really good and
parts of it really drag and parts of it just don't fit - I think it must
have been really rushed for release, it's as if it went through the hands
of three writers one of whom made fun of everything (rather well I thought),
one of whom wrote the "action" sequences (OK), and one of whom was supposed to
write the "deep" stuff but despised it amd made it sappy. And then passed to
an editor who either was bad or was not given nearly enough time to do it
(Watch Luke's now-you-see-em now-you-don't sideburns, for just one example,
plus he had to try and mesh the writing of the three different writers)

Well, that's my take on it. It's not like a finished product but if you like
making fun of stupid fads and pop culture it's your movie. I'd see it again.

Disclaimer: I suspect a lot of people had overly high standards for this. It's
	    not for everyone. Don't take it seriously and it's a lot of fun.
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From: ala@fico.uucp
Subject: Re: 2000 Malibu Rd. Is it really over? Who dunnit? Other misc. crap
Reply-To: ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley)
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies, San Rafael, California
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 18:56:15 GMT

The show is going on hiatus, no word if it will be picked up.

In article <1992Sep10.145812.20482@watson.ibm.com> dave_lutz@vnet.ibm.com (Dave Lutz) writes:
>
>  Where did that safe sex segment come from??  It was out of left field. 
>It almost seemed like the actresses took a break from the show and said, 
>"Now for our public service anouncement..."  I *really* thought this was 
>poorly done.

Think of it this way:  If you had only slept with one person in your whole
life and he burned you, and now you are thinking of sleeping with another
guy, and your roommate happens to be an ex-call girl, wouldn't you ask her
if all men were slime and what should you do to keep from getting slimed?
I would.  Especially with a wacked sister like Joy giving her advice!  

And as hookey as it seemed to be, when my younger friends ask me
questions like that, I tell them the same thing Jade did, and just as matter
of factly.  So I didn't think it was that unrealistic.
>
>  Who's voice was on the tape talking to the fraudulent lawyer?  Anyone, 
>anyone?  Sounded to me like it was Jade's stepfather!  But why would he try
>to kill her while at the same time trying to marry her off to his sidekick?

Her Stepfather used to sexually abuse her, that's why she wouldn't kiss him.  
That's what she was referring to when she said she would tell "everything"
when she had that meeting with him at the club.  He wants to marry her off
so he and her mother can keep control of her.  If that failed, they have to
kill her because she may someday open her mouth and ruin them all.
>
>  What's the deal with Perry's boyfriend?  Is this a split personality or 
>two different guys?  If it's the same guy, Perry's going to feel pretty 
>shitty about getting him out of the trial.

Maybe twins?  But more than likely, he's schizophrenic (<-spell?).  I really
want to see how they work this out, so I hope this show comes back soon.

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From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Something I saw on the Simpsons
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:37:56 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <61620010@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com>, knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts) writes:
>> Well, it's awfully dildo-like, but I think it's something else.  At first
>> I thought it might be Maggie's bottle, but it appears to be--along with
>> a plate and maybe something else on the other side of the plate--part of a
>> display on top of the cabinet.  Maybe it's a pepper mill.  Or one of those
>> what-the-hell-is-this-anyway? wedding presents.  Or maybe it *is* a dildo
>> and Homer and Marge think it's a tall paperweight or something.
> 
> But I noticed something else even stranger. Once the scene moved from
> the livingroom up through the floor into Lisa's room. In the area in
> between floors was a pile of gold coins and gold bars. Did anyone else
> see this?

     This happens all the time. Check out the Flaming Moes episode.

Later.......

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From: mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Melrose Place
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:19:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1992Sep9.084814.10698@waikato.ac.nz> rgtysec19@waikato.ac.nz (Sharlene Mehrtens) writes:

>We have just seen the pilot episode for Melrose Place, the first series begins
>tonight.  Tell me, does this programme get any better?  Tonight, Billy's
>roommate walks in on him and his fling for the night, Jake is in prison, Kelly
>is upset (as per usual). Sorry, can't remember proper character names.

I didn't find the pilot that wonderful, mind you the characters are older,
and the way BH90210 was going before the end of season *cliffhanger* HA!
Turning from maybe a half decent show into soapie trash. But I still
watched.

From watching the Melrose Place pilot, Andrew Shue (who plays Billy) has got
to be the brother of Elizabeth Shue (Karate Kid, A Night on the Town aka.
Adventures In Babysitting, Cocktail, Soapdish etc.).

Am I right?? they sure looked alike...

Jennie Garth 4 eva...
Matt.

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From: tbromley@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Thomas Bromley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Flintstones theme song
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:47:31 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

sandya@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com (Sandy A) writes:

> "Flinstones - Meet the Flintstones.
> They're the modern stone age family.
> From the - town of Bedrock
> They're a place right out of his-to-ry.
> Let's ride - with the family down the street
> Through the (courtesy?) of Fred's big feet
> When you're - with the Flintstones
> Have a yaba daba do time, a daba do time,
> You'll have a gay old time!"
> 
> WIIILLLMMMAAAAAA!
> 
> Or something like that.
> 
> How about the Wilma 'n' Betty waitress song?
> 
> "Here we come, on the run,
> with a burger on a bun
> and a big (something something) on the side,
> Your taste we will tickle with a cold dill pickle,
> and all of our potatoes are french fried (fried fried)
> Our burgers can't be beat
> 'Cuz we grind our own meat...
> 
> Can't remember the rest...anyone else wasting valuable brain
> cells remembering this song?
From: mcanally@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (David Scott McAnally)
Subject: Re: The Thunderbirds explained - to an extent
Reply-To: dsm@axiom.maths.uq.oz.au
Organization: Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences, Kyoto, Japan.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:53:11 GMT

In article <9208311346.AA07050@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker) writes:
 >	  Lady Penelope -- the aristocratic cousin to the father, sometime
 >spy.
 >	  Cooper -- her chauffeur/sidekick.
          ^^^^^^  Parker, as in nosey parker

There was also Jeff Tracy's mother who came to live on the island.
In the episode in which she  comes to live with the family, a person
extremely jealous of Allan left both him and his grandmother up
on the supporting beams of a bridge (?), with no way off.  When the
sun rose, they were supposed to weary under the continual heat and
faint, falling off.

David McAnally
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Going To Extremes (09/08 Comments)
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:01:51 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Comments on 09/08 episode of Going To Extremes:

[1] Metric Errors: The mother of the boy said that he jumped from a 7-metre
    roof; later, the mother said that the boy jumped from a 10-metre tamarind
    tree. I think they really meant 7 feet and 10 feet ... a 10-metre jump
    would be equivalent to jumping from a 3-4 storey building.

[2] Great Line: When he (I'm not sure who the characters are) was trying to
    convince the centrifuge repairman that he should set up shop in the
    U.S., he mentioned that he could catch the overflow from Radio Shack and
    Sak's ... that was hilarious.

[3] Why does everyone say: "Ya, man. No problem"
From: dhosek@lucy.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Mary Tyler Moore starts Saturday on Nick at Nite
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:29:55 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College

In article <18dtd5INN6ls@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu) writes:
 
> In article <18dq3tINNglj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields) writes:
> }My hopes for Nick's presentation:
> }2. No additional commercial breaks at inappropriate times
> }3. No arbitrary editing
 
> 	Bahahah! Do ANY stations (local or networks) show reruns of shows 
> without cutting out time for more commercials? You never know.
 
> 	It would be a great advertizing tactic for some station to show 
> episodes of whatever shows it shows without any of the original show cut out
> for more commercials..

Nick at Night does not add commercial breaks to their shows (or
at least not the ones that I watch). They do, however, speed
things up slightly or somesuch but not a whole lot. I timed the
commercial breaks on Hitchcock once. The original was two
60-second spots. Nick has two 100-second spots meaning that
they're picking up 80 seconds somewhere, likely by time
compression since there's not much room for editing. On the other
hand, watching Hitchcock on USA is painful since they add so many
commercial breaks (one of the reasons why I stay away from USA).

-dh
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From: driskill%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hank Driskill, GSH3D)
Subject: MDA telethons...
Date: 7 Sep 92 13:57:05 MDT
Organization: Grad Student From Hell (in 3D)
Distribution: usa

I was just watching the MDA telethon for a bit, and was wondering if they've
really made "$1 more each year"?  Does anyone have the figures?

Curious,
Hank.
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From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Help - Ken Wahl
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:38:30 GMT

iCan someone tell me the name of the old show Ken Wahl was in.?  It
was on a few years ago  I think.


Gayle 'feelin' old' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
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From: mike@vpnet.chi.il.us (michael kamlet)
Subject: Re: 'Middle Ages'
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:30:13 GMT

In article <1323@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
>In article <Zq8kqB1w164w@waffle.sns.com> hank@waffle.sns.com (hankdtank) writes:
>>In the show "Middle Ages," I have a question about the actor who plays the 
>>60 year old ex-salesman who now drives a taxi.  Who is he and where have I 
>>seen him before (atleast I know I've heard his voice)?
>
>
Wasn't he the coach in the movie Bull Durham ??

Mike Kamlet
mike@vpnet.chi.il.us
.
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Kirstie Alley Asked To Lose Weight
Date: 6 Sep 92 17:35:49 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I heard that Kirstie Alley has ballooned to approximately 180 pounds. The
producers of Cheers has asked her to lose some weight or else she would have a
reduced role on Cheers.

Anybody have more on this story?

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