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From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: UPCOMING RAVES
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:20:00 GMT
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Could someone do upcoming RAVES update that covers the East coast? btw
Dead by Dawn production in Philly, PA is no longer organizing RAVES
after two of them got shut down; one by the Fire Dept [some idot
supposedly pulled the fire alarm!], I dont know what happened to the
recent one [Dec 18th: KOOL RAVE] but Dead by Dawn Prod. offered
apologies one their VMB.

JAKE MON
From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:36:46 GMT
Organization: The Other Side of the CPU
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30

ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:
: 
: I have a question though regarding this.
: I worte a tune on the amiga called 'mod.Suburbass commando' 
: A nice 142 bpm techno dance track, but how the hell would i go about getting
: this onto vinyl or cd???
: I have no money to press it myself and no idea on who to contact.
: ANyone got any ideas????

I know of a CD that is currenty being released which contains pieces
written/recorded/composed/etc by people on the net.  It's not all techno but
somehow they got their material to pressing of a CD.  You might check out
the rec.music.maker.* newsgroups for more info.  Good luck!


Steve J. White
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From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Gimme a story and a place to sleep.
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:46:34 GMT
Organization: The Other Side of the CPU
Distribution: world
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rjg@cs.bham.ac.uk (Robin J Green) writes:
: 
: 	So, it's about time to kickstart the grey matter and answer
: some real questions. Where do we come from, where are we going and
: what do we do when we get there?
: 
: 	For me the major feeling I get from these events is some sort
: of togetherness under the groove (never quite in the way you expect).

This is it exactly for me.  The first rave I went to was here in Milwaukee.
I haven't been to an event out of town, yet.  It seems that since the Grave
raid the scene just isn't the same, here.  Hopefully through time this will
change, but I digress.

Other than Tempest, which had a very large gang presence, I have felt
connected to everyone else there, even when I don't actually talk to anyone
whom I don't know.  One experience I had at Flavo-Rave was a number of
people asking if they could drink from my water bottle and being so
surprised when I actually said they could have as much as they wanted.
Also, the general vibe throughout the crowd in the dance-space is very open
and warm (and not just because we're all sweating and over-heating ;-).
It's as if we're all having the same feelings because of the groove; this is
something I've never ever felt while dancing at a club.

At my first rave, Humanity in the Machine Age, when I walked in I thought I
would be overwhelmed once I tried to get in the dance-space but I wasn't in
the least.  I stayed very late and couldn't wait for the next rave to happen
in Milwaukee.  

Because of the current legal hassles here I'm going to start to have to head
out of town for raves.  Would any of you suggest any one city above the rest
in the Midwest as far as a good vibe goin' on at raves?  I'd like to go to
Chicago, since it's closest, but I've heard some nasty things about Chicago
raves.  How about Cinci?  Detroit?  Cleveland?  Minneapolis?

: 	Tell me I'm not mad and this is all normal happenings at a
: rave, else I'm COMPLETELY wierd and there's no hope for me. But wierd
: things really do happen to me all the time at these events. I wanna
: hear your stories. Or are you all backroom boys, buying records, maybe
: having a house party but never REALLY experiencing the "true
: rave (tm)"?

'k ... you're not mad, not even angry.


Steve J. White
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From: archive@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: EVIDENCE of Berlin
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:18:38 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

I was unfortunate enough not to make the MAYDAY event in Berlin last
month, but a few friends of mine did. I can't obviously give a detailed
description of the event (neither can most of those who went apart form
saying it was something really special!! Such space cadets!). On the
flyer they brought back was an advert for "EVIDENCE" which will be
happening on the 7th Feb. Can any good Berlin folk give us a clue if
this is still happening & if so what to expect? ie DJ line up, top acts
appearing etc...

The good thing about MAYDAY was that the acts & DJ's were from all over
Europe & the USA. Were any of you there? Can you tell me what really
went on? Isn't this what alt.rave is all about?

"abracadabra" Ye Archiviste says "open sesameeeeee" 

Ta.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ceej@shell.portal.com (Chris Johnson)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:28:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan08.201008.23119@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 01-08-93 14:58
>Quoted From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
[...]
>> 
>> with really fuckin great visual effect. This shit could be shown on TV
>> and no one would EVER guess it was done on a $500 computer and played
>> from a 880k. This looks like it is from a CD ROM! spectacular! it is
>>
[...]
>
>You know, we can do that on IBMs too.  We aren't all that musically 
>inept.


Show me an IBM setup costing $500 and I'll show you a bunch of beeps and 
crackles.  You must be joking, right?  Affordable hardware that can produce
awesome results has AMIGA written all over it.

Ceej
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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:44:57 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1iut2bINN9at@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
|squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg) writes:
|
|| Maybe you should stop going to 'raves' , nah , in fact STOP going 
|| immediatley , in fact , People of America , stop this guy going , or I 
|| predict that within the next couple of months , you will all be as bitter 
|| as me :-) when he destroys your weekend's fun.
|
|Au contraire, Quigghead.  Fools and poseurs like *you* are a large part of 
|the reason I have no interest in the rave scene.  You demonstrate quite 
|effectively that it's no longer any different from any other scene: overrun 
|with lots of attitude-drunk loudmouths who are more interested in pissing 
|out their territories than simply letting people enjoy whatever music they 
|happen to enjoy.  If anything's destroying the scene it's *that*, not the 
|fact that some people like bubblegum techno.
|
|--
|Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Hey, relax.  Don't let one sourhead brit spoil you on the whole concept.  I
would hesitate so say that Mr. Quigg even has a clue about the real ideas
behind "the scene".  I run into people like him at raves every now and then,
but they usually leave when the bars close at 2 (which is a large reason why
my favorite time to arrive is 2:30 or 3 :).  If you're gonna judge the our
attitude by Q's remarks, well, that's sorta like giving up on going out to
the movies because of Crispin Glover or throwing out your records on account
of New Kids on the Block.

	Brian



"All this talk about what I'd do for a million dollars is kinda pointless.  I'll
do everything, for free." - Dana Watanabe
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Capt. Sarcastic)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 10:35:26 GMT

tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier) writes:

>In article <1993Jan09.194739.12512@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
>>
>>Date Entered: 01-09-93 14:43
>>Quoted From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 

>Pas-16 doesn't have four independent channels... only two. I've got
>both a PC and and amiga.. had a PAS-16 on the PC for a while too. The
>Amiga sounded cleaner, hands down. Plus the software for
>creating/playing MODs is much better on the Amiga. Sure you can do it
>on the IBM, but it really pales in comparison.

Take into consideration that most software uses the SB portion of the PAS16
card.  Not much PAS-specific sound yet...

>support this? The max I've seen a demo at is the 640x480x16 vga mode
>with just credits rollin' by. Nothing spectacular has happened yet.
>Until something like Odyssey can be made on the PC, I'll take the
>amiga for demos.
>the PC to become "demo ready"
>>> If you really think PC is better let me see one demo on the PC that is
>>> ever CLOSE to what was done on the amiga in 1987 [btw we had WINDOWS GUI
>>> since 1986 while you were still playing with DOS]....

Well, I have a really nice demo that has all the standard Amiga Demo stuff-
blitterbobs, sinus, 3d vectors, 3d landscape, and more, with a nice sound
track to boot.  It's called "UNREAL" and it's by a group called "Future xxx"
-- well, future something.  If someone tells me where to FTP it, I will.
This is on par with recent amiga demos - 4 tunes, good graphics, fast, etc.

>agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
>tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)

--
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:54:05 GMT

In article <C0nMAz.72p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois) writes:
>I just want to say that I'm here for the music, techno music, I dont go
>to rave parties for some ethereal, love one-another, get high on
>Ecstacy, rub my crystals, worship my pyramids, live transiently in a
>commnual-like 'experience.'  I just like to dance.  I don't care if
>it's not pouplar, I wont stop liking it if it becomes too popular.
>
>I like Sesame's Treat, I like Apotheosis, I like Dominator, I like
>Destoryer, I like Mother Fu*ker Man, I like Na Na, I like Ping Pong,
>I like Pullover, I like Speed Racer.  I dont care if these are
>considered old, or crappy, or commercial, or sellout, or nauseating
>by some guy in the Uk, or some chick in the US.
>
>
>Ok?
>
>-Dan



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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: A sad day in Winnipeg
Summary: Sad Day in Winnipeg
Keywords: rave sad boody sad dead Winnipeg
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:48:32 GMT

Well, this New Year's Eve in Winnipeg will go down in history. Two Raves
were being held (in a city of approx. 650,000) and due to rivalry and
petty hate and such both became extremely horrid (In my opinion, ofcourse).
One was called One Fish, Two Fish, Rave Fish Blue Fish, and the other the
ever-so-original Gatorave. One Fish Two Fish started out to be quite the
undertaking. The guy heading it, nick-named Morpheous, had said to me it
was to be fantastic, that Moby was even considering it (yeah right) and
that there would be tons of tunes et al. That was about three weeks prior
to the event. It was to cost $20 bucks to go. The pamphlet had said that
it was going to be the rave of all raves, that it  was to have live Fish
in big tanks, lasers, lights, a side room to lay back in, and it would
start at around eight or ten at night and go till around 9 am when
pancakes would be served. the pamphlet said security would be tight, that
everything was legal, etc. How could it be shut down?  About a week before
it was rumored that Moby would come to the next one if enough money was to
be made at this one, and he sold over 2000 tickets (or atleast that was
what the paper said). 
	The second Rave, the Gatorave, fizzled out and New years Eve's
paper had an interview with its promoter (Martin Mission or what ever his
last name is this week). I guess he was hoping to get some business
through free advertising (or Lord help us .....  Uh Lord, what Lord ?!?!?!?!
	I decided to not attend either, hearing that each of the
venues was going to try and close the other one down. But, second hand
info (some associates :) gave it to me like this.....
	The One FIsh Rave opened at 11:30. There was no live fish, there
was no smart bar, there was no nothin' except for some good music 'n X. No
liquor venue (although there was cotton candy....yum). It ended up getting
busted at 4 AM because a door window had been kicked in, and a board
nailed onto it, and this supposedly created a fire hazard or something. 
	The gatorave was rumored to have 200 people max, although I could
find no one to varify it because no one I talked to had gone. 

Oh well, Winnipeg was never too hoppin' and never will, I guess. At least
Morpheous gave it a try, although the hype he gave me could never
materialize. He supposedly lost 20 grand, although I find this hard to
believe. He was featured in the paper a couple of days later with a
picture of himself with a sad look on his face. Yikes, I hope he can do
better next time (rumor is he is planning another one :.(

Well, just my little story, and my opinion......

me and my 'Four Line' .sig...........
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: A&E Rave show Jan 10
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:41:20 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-11-93 18:36
Quoted From: ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett)
> 
> There was a pretty cool show on A&E (Arts and Entertainment) last night
> on (probably) your local cable channels.  It started out mentioning
> disco, and how it grew and developed.  Then the Detriot scene, the move
> to the Uk, and now the current move back.
> 
> They interviewed Stephen and Gillian from New Order, Dee-Lite, and some
> other people.  The beginning was sort of neat, but as they moved into the
> modern era, it got cheesy.
> 
> The cap was them saying how infuential Dee-Lite is.  I nearly puked.
> 
> If it repeats, it may be worth it.  It was simply titled "Rave".
> 
> 

I caught this show, and it seemed as though it was about two years out 
of date.  Were do they get off interviewing Dee-Lite as _the_ current 
most popular rave band?  Well... in some ways this is a good thing. 
At least the popular media have it ALL SCREWED UP, so we don't have to 
worry about it suddenly gaining tremendous popularity for a while.

> Andrew
> -- 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Andrew Bennett         (ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu) 
>         Oxford, Ohio           (abennett@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu) 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    Hot tune: Sunscream's "Love you More" and Tom Waits' "Going Out West"
>

rev@cibbs.uucp / greg.ipp@rose.com
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From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: YO HO!
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:37:00 GMT
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Why doesnt MTV USA play any techno like its counterpart in Europe?
Recently my friend from Belgium taped PARTY ZONE on MTV Europe which had
half and half techno and house mixed all together. For the first time I
saw what PRODIGY looked like in the video 'FIRE' [my fav!]. Plus they
have alot of cool videos with computer graphics/fractals/3d anims etc
mostly used in TECHNO videos, someting you'll never see in the US. Will
U.S. always be BEHIND europe when it comes to music? created Techno,
left it alone instead of doing what Euros are doing with it now. It is
that god damn ROCK'N'ROLL mentallity that I cant stand. All you hear on
MTV is rock, rock, rock, rap, rock, rock, rap, rap with all those lame
hosts they've got. HOW ABOUT SOME TECHNO for a change. Anything will do,
even from 3 years ago!
From: st1pk@rosie.uh.edu (DISCO BISCUIT)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: QUASAR - 7 Stars, looking for...CD
Date: 10 Jan 1993 19:54 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <pet.726626176@munagin>, pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes...
>Hi, a friend is looking for QUASAR's 7 stars on CD.
>If you've got it, would you be able to email me a review?
>Is this disc still available?
>Thanks!
> 

	I have the razormaid remix of Seven stars on CD M-6 of the Razormaid
Series. Its not terribly different from the orriginal. I've seen the CD5 single
of it about a year and a half ago. It had 2 or 3 mixes of it. If you have not
heard it...it sounds a lot like Beltrams Energy Flash

-=dan=-
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: eric@nit.pactel.com (Eric Pederson)
Subject: Re: exist dance - more info
Organization: Pac*Tel Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:02:34 GMT

jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:

>a few people have written to me asking where to get exist dance records.  i
>have to honestly say that i have no bloody idea.  the best advice i can give
>is: call them and ask.  their phone number is (213) 661-2442.  that's in los
>angeles, california.

In San Francisco, BPM gets the exist dance stuff occasionally especially 
if you bug them enough.  The 'godlike' singles sell out pretty fast though.
Check in their domestic house or regular domestic section.  I ended up having
to mail order Voodoo Tranmission from Street Sounds in Hollywood, but it
was worth it.  The Eden Transmission EP is easily one of my year's faves.

"We're giving you a little hearing loss"
-- 
Eric Pederson                                       Pac*Tel Corporation
eric@nit.pactel.com                                        510-210-8890
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (the future is now.....)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 05:37:03 GMT


I recently got a new shipment of disks specifically for the purpose of
collecting MODS.....

Is there anyone out there with a list of MODs, what they sound like,
etc?

Basically, I'm just looking for a list of techno or housey or trancey
stuff... 

I've got all the U4IA I can find and some other stuff, but there
oughta be some sort of definitive MOD-FAQ or something, listing songs,
samples/instruments used, composers, ftp sites, players for the
different platofrms (Amiga, IBM, Mac, Apple //gs, etc.), etc.

I started doing that a year ago, but, I ran out of disk space and my
interests diverged and diverted into other things very quickly....

Anyway, if there isn't already, there should be a guide to MODs and a
MOD-FAQ>.. 

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From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: YO HO!
Date: 11 Jan 93 01:24:21 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In article <1993Jan10.184308.27778@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 01-10-93 13:39
>Quoted From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
>> 
>> That 808state/UB40 song is pretty good!
>> 
>> "I am a one in ten, a number on a list, I am a one in ten, even though
>> I don't exist... nobody knows me, even though I'm always there, just a
>> statistical reminder of a world that doesn't care..."
>> 
>> Cool eh?
>> 
>> agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
>> tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)
>>
>
>Anybody get the single to this song?  I saw it, and it had I think two 
>808state remixes, and two UB40 remixes -- is this worth it?  I don't 
>like UB40 all that much, so...

The first side has the two 808 state remixes... I think they are
pretty cool. I'm not even a reggae/UB40 fan, and I liked 'um still the
same.

Think of it this way... can you risk $5?

agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: Digital Druid <cyberpun@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: ComeUniverse becoming private
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:51:50 GMT

hehe..okay I"ll do this twice.   Please change cyberpun@wam.umd.edu
to DCRAVES@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

to subscribe, so you get mail back:
mail listserv@auvm.american.edu
(nothing in subject field)
1st line:
SUBscribe DCRAVES <your name here>

send it...   
could someone post the updated ComeUniverse alias tomorrow when everything is 
updated?

d.d

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: wwc56110@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Techno Disciple)
Subject: Tressor: Techno Sound of Berlin
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:26:36 GMT

I've heard that _Tressor_ has lots of good acid tracks, but haven't
seen it.  Can anyone tell me if it's worth it for me to special order
it from my local record store?  I think one of the songs I've heard
from this compilation is something like "Skyscratch".  Please e-mail
me any reviews/etc.

					Techno Disciple
					wwc56110@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu