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From: SASCHO <SASCHO@mvs.sas.com>
Subject: Re: ALL-Troublemaker Team  :)
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:47:00 GMT
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>>Ok, this is a joke, right? I'm having a dream, right? NOBODY actually
>>compares Rickey (notice the spelling) "put some mustard on that hot-dog"
>>Henderson with Nolan Ryan. The Rickey (notice the spelling) that sent
>>a dozen balls for Nolan to autograph after Nolan struck him out for
>>#5000, and Nolan happily signed them. Then when Nolan sent some balls
>>for Rickey (notice the spelling), he sent Nolan a note stating that
>>he doesn't do autographs.    Lots o' class.
>
>Since when is class the most important attribute of an athlete? Since
>when does it matter at all?
>
>I can give you a list of terrific ballplayers who from what little I
>know seem to be fine human beings and I can just as easily give you a
>list of great players who are world class jerks. Other than their wives
>and children, who cares what kind of a man these guys are?
>
>And even if it matters to you, it seems like a crazy way to compare
>two players.
>
>I don't know if Henderson is twice the ballplayer that Ryan is. I
>don't even know any good way of attacking that question. I *do*
>know that Henderson is one of the best players of the last 20
>years. And I also know that Ryan is a hell of a pitcher as well.
>Who's better? I'd vote for Rickey, but I don't know any more
>about this than any of you.
>
>And the original poster is right. With the reputations these two
>players have Ryan will have a much easier battle with the HOF
>voters than Henderson will. I think it's a shame that they will
>allow personalities to weigh their votes.
 
Nobody states that Mr. Henderson is anything but a great ballplayer.
Don't compare him to Nolan Ryan. I can state my opinion, and I can
state my perceptions about who I'd rather have on my team. What
Rickey has accomplished is great, but what Nolan has accomplished
is unbelievable. No hitters are tough enough, but 7 is unbelievable.
5000 strikeouts is 200 a year for 25 years. 300 wins is double-digit
wins every year for 25 years, with bad teams for most of those years.
Sure Rickey is great, but he doesn't have the longevity that Nolan has
had. Class has a lot to do with attendance, which for an owner is the
bottom line. When Nolan pitches, attendance rises at home and at other
parks. Attendance rises when Oakland comes to town, but that's as much
for Canseco and Stewart as Rickey.
 
I understand your point, it is well taken. I just don't like Rickey,
and I think thats obvious. BTW, someone in another post stated
something about racism. That's a copout. There are black players who
I like, and there are black players who I don't like. There are white
players I like and white players I don't like. I know Rob Dibble does
not compare to Rickey, but he is great reliever. A lot of people don't
like Dibble, but he doesn't  have racism to blame. He's just a jerk.
 
 
Chuck Oertli
SAS INSTITUTE INC.
AUSTIN, TX                                    SASCHO@MVS.SAS.COM
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From: clmn@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Coleman)
Subject: Cubs Troubles
Reply-To: clmn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Department of Economics
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:40:35 GMT

Well, Dunston failed to get on base last night.  Sosa scratched out an 
infield hit and reached base on an error.  Both managed to hold it down
to one strikeout apiece.  Meanwhile, Gary Scott is batting .136, which
is better than Dwight Smith's .105.  Even Hector's BA is .111, but he
can draw walks, two last night.  Scored on one of them.

Of course, it's still early. :>)


-- 
Bill Coleman
From: ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Juan Samuel--who pays.
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:13:18 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


 In article <1992Apr16.014627.2369@ducvax.auburn.edu> kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
 >In article <1992Apr15.192124.29053@leland.Stanford.EDU>, claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
 >> In article <1992Apr15.190939.10062@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> ncovey@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neil covey) writes:
 >>>I'm a Dodger fan, but sometimes I wonder:
 >>>Do the Dodgers pay Juan Samuel or does the rest of the National League
 >>>pay them to keep him on their roster?
 >> 
 >> Come on.  Samuel's not *that* bad!  At least he's better offensively than
 >> Mark Lemke, Jose Lind, and Mickey Morandini...
 >
 >Yes, but *much* poorer defensively than Lemke and Lind, and Lemke's still
 >a youngster, so the jury's still out on him...
 >

Interestingly enough, Lemke had the best BA on the Braves in spring training
his first year and he and Bluaser were first-second (cannot not seem to
remember which order) in BA in Lemke's second spring training visit.  In
addition, he is considered by many teamates to be the best defensive
infielder on his team.  With Threadway on DL, Lemke sould even more playing
time than last year - Cox "seems" to lean toward using Blauser instead when the
team SLG is having problems (of course the other team's starting pitcher
might have a little to do in the decision :-).


-- 
Mike Marler                        |
Internet: ccastmm@prism.gatech.edu |   "Dar's two sets of rules."
uucp: !gatech!prism!ccastmm	   |                          -- Paris Trout
Disclaimer: These views are not and should not be viewed as those of OIT.
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Apr 10:Cubs-Cardinals boxscore
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:54:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Apr11.185424.5938
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

ST LOUIS     AB  R  H  RBI   CHICAGO      AB  R  H  RBI
Lankford cf   4  0  2   1    Dunston ss    2  1  2   0
Alicea 2b     4  0  0   0     Vizcaino ss  3  0  0   0
Zeile 3b      4  1  1   1    Sosa cf       5  0  0   0
Guerrero 1b   4  0  0   0    Sandberg 2b   4  0  1   1
B Jordan rf   4  0  0   0    Dawson rf     4  0  1   0
M Thompson lf 4  0  0   0    Grace 1b      4  0  1   0
 Carpenter p  0  0  0   0    Dw Smith lf   4  0  0   0
 L Smith p    0  0  0   0    Scott 3b      4  0  1   0
Pagnozzi c    4  0  1   0    Girardi c     4  0  1   0
T Jones ss    4  0  0   0    Castillo p    2  0  0   0
Tewksbury p   2  0  0   0     Walker ph    1  0  0   0
 Gilkey ph    0  0  0   0     McElroy p    0  0  0   0
 Worrell p    0  0  0   0     Slocumb p    0  0  0   0
 Hudler lf    1  1  1   0     Wilkins ph   1  0  0   0
                              Assenmacher p0  0  0   0
                              Da Smith p   0  0  0   0

TOTALS       35  2  5   2    TOTALS       38  1  7   1

ST LOUIS   000 100 000 01 - 2 5 0
CHICAGO    100 000 000 00 - 1 7 0
LOB-St. Louis 4, Chicago 5. 2B-Lankford (1), Pagnozzi (2),
Hudler (1), Dawson (1), Grace (1). 3B-Dunston (1). 
HR-Zeile (3) off Castillo. SB-Lankford (2). CS-Lankford (1).
S-Alicea. SF-Sandberg. DP-St. Louis 1, Chicago 1.

ST LOUIS       IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  NP
Tewksbury       8  5  1   1   0   2  94
Worrell         1  1  0   0   0   0   6
Carpenter(W1-0) 1  1  0   0   0   1  13
L Smith (S1)    1  0  0   0   0   0   8
CHICAGO   
Castillo        8  3  1   1   0   6  91
McElroy        .1  0  0   0   3   0  ??
Slocumb        1.2 0  0   0   0   1  ??
Assenmchr(L0-1).2  2  1   1   0   1  ??
Da Smith       .1  0  0   0   0   0   5

T-2:43. A-32,659.
From: dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Box for Wednesday night's A's-Royal's game
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:24:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

Could someone post the box for Wednesday night's Oakland-Royal's
game? I see the score was 4-3 in 13 innings, but the local paper
didn't have the late boxes. If not the full box, I would appreciate
the pitcher's lines.

   Thanks in advance,
Dave



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From: wwedward@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Waynedog Edwards)
Subject: Re: Re: For Jays fans only!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:11:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.050653.24924@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>
>Face it, the Blue Jays suck!  They got a little lucky there for a
>while, but tonight their true colors showed.  They got their little
>blue asses whipped by Greg "I'm all the Yankees have to show for
>Rickey" Cadaret!
>
>What a shock!  I can only imagine the shame of 50,000 fans as they
>watched Todd "Beanball" Stottlemyre blow yet another early-game lead.
>And their disgust as the "potent" Jays lineup produced a mere two runs
>in the game against one of the worst starters in baseball.
>
>I can only imagine this shame because the Blue Jays fans, in proper
>Canadian tradition, had all fled the stadium by the end of the
>seventh.  Only the losers and the misfits were privileged to watch
>Todd blow the game.
>
>The McJays have seen their last of first place for this season.  From
>now on they travel to the cellar in the company of the Tigers.
>
Personally, I would be embarrassed to write crap like this.  Everyone should
remember that there 162 games to a season and that nobody has won or lost 
anything until they are all over.  

Wayne Edwards
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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: More of "Stats don't tell the true story."  (LONG)
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:36:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.011249.4062@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>In <1992Apr2.180215.15843@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca ( ) writes:
>>and what statistics tell you how good that Chicago grass looked to
>>the Hawk's knees?
> 
>There are lots of grass fields; he didn't rush to play in Chavez or Shea.

No, he ran to the Cubs because (as I recall) he wanted to stay in the
NL and play on grass for a team that had a chance to contend and needed
an outfielder.  At the time, the Dodgers and the Mets were not hurting
for outfielders.  His best fit really was Chicago (at that time).

But that may be irrelevant anyway.  Grass may have helped Dawson.  I
wish there was a way to really measure that.  Anything to get rid of
fuzzy green cement!

>Statistics don't tell you that, but when people say "Artificial turf
>causes injuries and shortens careers," we can look at the stats to see
>whether there ARE more injuries on turf, and whether the average career
>length has shrunk.

I wonder what they say about players that have "split" careers.  Guys
like Dawson who go from carpet to grass (and even vice versa).


>Did the 86 Mets "choke" 54 times, since they only won 108 games?  Did
>the opponents of the 62 Mets "choke" the 40 times the Mets *didn't* lose?

Yes, the opponents of the 62 Mets DID choke those 40 times!  :-)
Including the Cubbies 8 times (most by any team that year)!  :-)

-- 
scott barman			| Mets 4, Cards 2 (in 10) - Bobby Bonilla 2 HR!
scott@asd.com			|      The Torborg era begins 1-0.
				|            LET'S GO METS!
 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)
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From: bobrob@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Charles Weisz)
Subject: Statistical Ignorance
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: su
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:47:07 GMT

Dear Stat-heads,

	Please pardon my ignorance, but I came across a reference to the stat
OPS, and as a "love-of-the-game-type-fan" I have no idea what the heck it is.
Could someone please enlighten me?

					Rob W.


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From: cjkuo@locus.com (Chengi Jimmy Kuo)
Subject: Re: why righty-righty match-up?
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Distribution: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:36:02 GMT

gmkumar@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Mahinthakumar) writes:

>Hi Netters,
>This is my first posting to rsb although I've been following
>it for the past 6 months. This could be something very obvious,
>but I cannot hold this question any longer. Here it goes..

>Is it true that right handed batters hit better against
>right handed pitchers?  or is it the other way around?

The other way around.

>If so, why?

As a batter, you're more likely to flinch at the curve ball coming
at your head that ends up breaking over the plate for a strike.
This places a big psychological edge for the pitcher.

I've also heard (never played baseball, always softball) it's easier
to pick up the ball out of the pitcher's opposing hand than the near
hand.  (Confirmation requested, if anyone can offer one.)

Jimmy Kuo
-- 
cjkuo@locus.com
"The correct answer to an either/or question is both!"
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: I Told You Bonilla Was Worth the Money
Keywords: Seriously:  A Truly Different Mets' Team
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:13:44 GMT

In article <14277@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>If I remember correctly, they offered Bonilla around 23.5 million within
>a couple of weeks of the Mets' and other offers. That offer may not
>have been "competitive" but it certainly was serious.

The final offer the Pirates made to Bonilla was $22.5 million.  If it isn't
competitive, in what sense is it serious?  


>>Want to bet on that?
>
>I think you have some bitter memories of your years in Pittsburgh.
>We are not all total jerks up here.

No, I have very fond memories of my years in Pittsburgh.  I liked living in
Pittsburgh quite a bit, and I don't think everyone in Pittsburgh is a total
jerk by any means.  I'm sorry if you've gotten the impression that I think
you, in particular, a total jerk, because I absolutely don't.  

However, it seems to be a fact of life, not just limited to Pittsburgh,
that a certain class of baseball fans take it personally when a player
expresses a desire to play elsewhere than the fans' favorite town, to the
point that they absolutely can not look objectively at the player at all.
Pittsburgh has some members of this class of baseball fans; the throwing of
batteries at Dave Parker is an example of the behavior of this class of
fan.  However, these fans are not limited to Pittsburgh by any means.

What I don't understand is why these people get so upset over it.  I'm well
aware of the reasons people have presented here for being so down on
Bonilla, I just don't understand why those things have those people so
upset.  So what if Bonilla talked about looking out for his family (Heaven
forbid!) when talking about his contract desires?  

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com

Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:42:08 -0400 
From: King-Han Yao <ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: YANKEES (was: Re: blue jays vs. red sox)
	<1992Apr16.142851.10083@oz.plymouth.edu>
Distribution: rec

On 16-Apr-92 in Re: YANKEES (was: Re: blue ..
user Michael Le Houllier@oz.p writes:
>In article <cduakJG00WBN0_OpY9@andrew.cmu.edu> King-Han Yao
<ky0l+@andrew.cmu.e
>du> writes:
>>On 13-Apr-92 in blue jays vs. red sox        
>>user "stephen dawson"@canrem. writes:
>>>Nelson Lu writes
>>> 
>>>NL>Boy, 1 win, and you obnoxious Blue Jays fan sounds if you have the
division
>>>NL>knocked down.  I remember the A's fans from last year.  Guess what
>>happened.
>>>..
>>> 
>>>Can we start to gloat after 6 wins?
>>> 
>>
>>No, they lost to the Yanks, we can start to gloat!!!!
>>
>>But then again, this is probably the high point of the year for us.  
>>Maybe, maybe, maybe, just maybe...there's a miracle on 161st street
this year!
> 
>Well, seeing the Jays have taken the last two, I guess the Jays are
>the only team in the division who will see the penthouse for the
>remainder of the year.  How was your 1 night stand Yankee fans.
>Though that's more than the Red Sox will ever see.
> 
>Go Jays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, make that 3 in a row now.  
Hey, at least us Yankee fans aren't virgins, like the Orioles, Brewers,
Indians and Tigers fans (not counting the first three games).  I'd watch
out for the Sox though.
A dream is a dream, more incredible things have happened.


-------------
King Yao                       
Economics 
Class of '92                   
Carnegie Mellon
From: p_emond@pavo.concordia.ca (Patrick (Robbie) Emond)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Expos! Expos! Expos!
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:40:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 The team universally picked to finish dead last just SWEPT the 2 billion
 dollar a year Mets (or the Stinking Mets as we call them here) at Shea,
 beating Mr. Saberhagen (and showing the world why we traded Tim (closer 
 for the Marlins) Burke!) and company by near blowout scores!

 Even if the Expos blow it (and if they do, it was fun while it lasted),
 the world knows that: Larry Walker is the BEST right fielder around, Wette-
 land and Kenny Hill can throw some serious heat, and Dennis Martinez was
 robbed of the Cy last year.




  So until the rest of the league catches up...










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    Concordia U.           |  stand-up double..."
    Montreal, Can.         |  --Jerry Coleman
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: A few comments about the Indians so far
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:18:39 GMT
Organization: A Slightly Warmer Place Than Dave Kirsch's Winter Wonderland

In <1992Apr11.210928.16401@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler) writes:


>     While listening to the Tribe on the radio (it's still on as I write),
>I heard Sorrento make an excellent defensive play to snare a liner and
>tag runner Mo Vaughn out.  I began thinking of Reggie Jefferson, and wondering
>if he was the next Wally Pipp.  Surely, Sorrento isn't Lou Gehrig (yet :-)
>but Jefferson may be out for long enough for Sorrento to secure a job.
>I bet tehy would keep Jefferson as a pinch-hitter, though, or maybe let him
>go in the expansion draft.  How long is he out for now - till June?
>     Sorrento's stats were good, but I thought they'd been juiced up playing
>in the PCL.  Or isn't Portland a good hitters' park?  I know Colorado Springs
>is - they won a game 33-12 some years back.

Portland is one of the better pitcher's parks in the PCL, so Sorrento's
numbers aren't as terribly overinflated as most PCL hitters' stats are.
So he's genuinely a good hitter, almost as good as Kent Hrbek is these
days, which is why I was very surprised that the Twins traded him.  He's
a MUCH better hitter than Reggie Jefferson.  He's 26, so we're not talking
future superstar, but we are talking an average AL starting first baseman
for a few years.

With Sorrento, Baerga, Lewis, and Thome around the Indians actually have
the makings of a very good infield.  

Greg  

-- 
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 cmcl2!panix!spira      left field!  If it stays fair, it's gone!  Home Run!"  
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From: gmkumar@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Mahinthakumar)
Subject: righty-righty match-up
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:18:47 GMT

Hi,
Thanks for everybody who took time to reply
to my question on righty-righty match-ups.

I also had the impression that right-handed 
pitchers perform better against right handed batters
until I saw Mark McGwire pound Jack McDowell 
for two homers in the last CHiSox match 
against the A's. (Both are righties)
As a ChiSox fan I was distressed to see this but it
may simply be McGwire's experience against righties.

It also cleared my question as to why most managers platoon
left-handed hitters against righty pitchers. At least this seems
to be the case with ChiSox so far where manager Gene Lamont
is platooning Dan Pasqua against righties and Mike Huff
against lefties.

-Kumar
From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (DAVID BONAR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Ramon, MRI, Crews, Comments, and a Question
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:17:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr9.182358.1757
Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: News and Views from LSU
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27977]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu

In article <1992Apr9.155033.3868@adobe.com>, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes...
>In article <gnrjs4a.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>I don't think the issue is salary at all.  My employer has no need to
>>be interested in the health of my [wrist|shoulder|elbow] in terms of
>>how it may affect my ability to do my job. 
> 
>So what if the health of your wrist/shoulder/elbow *did* affect your
>ability to do your job?  Would you think your employer had the right to
>force you to get an MRI?  (Incidently, if you spend much time in front of a
>keyboard, as I do, then the health of your wrists *is* an issue; I have
>several friends with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome).

	Yes, if there is reason to suspect that an injury is hurting someone's
job performance I feel that the employer should be able to force a non-
harmful checkup.  If an MRI had a significant risk involved (such as an
exploratory surgury would have) the decision is harder.  

Dave
__________
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eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
Go Astro's  [motto: More Bang for the buck (but still a little short)]
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From: warrior@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Gary Carter Inc.)
Subject: Re: Expos
Reply-To: warrior@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:09:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.124948.5618@cs.tulane.edu> eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu  
(DAVID BONAR) writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.035849.16471@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>,  
cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes...
> >Does anyone have any info on this Fletcher guy the Expos have as  
catcher?
> >He had a pretty amazing game today, so I'm hoping he's a young prospect
> >unlike the other 2 catchers they have (not that I mind Carter and the  
other 
> >guy).
> 
> 	Fletcher is somewhat young (birthdate 10/3/66).  He isn't really
> a good hitting prospect (.284/.334 BA/OBA in AAA last year) but he  
doesn't
> look to bad when you compare him to the others in the league.
Saw him with the Phillies last year.  Good Defensive catcher.  Not a great  
hitter.  "Son, I know Gary Carter, and you're no Gary Carter!" :)
From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Eckersley NOT better than Fingers
Date: 17 Apr 92 09:04:14 PST


  < major discusion/battle/carnage deleted >

  7 or 8 consectutive posts, all on the same topic !

  Al Feinstein (sp?) Lives..........   And with a bite !


> 
> -- 
> Gary Blickhan   "Urgent baseball news- In a risky deal, the Angels sent pitcher
> Dean Chance to the Phillies for outfielder Oscar Gamble. Also, a three-way deal
> sent infielder Dave Cash to Detroit, slugger Norm Cash and backup Ron Cash to
> Milwaukee, and infielder Don Money to Pittsburgh. Detroit made a profit."
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