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From: baron@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Baron)
Subject: Re: Acronyms (Was Re: Articles and acronyms)
Organization: University of Illinois
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:24:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.015039.849@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:
>Path: news.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!gumby!destroyer!ubc-cs!mala.bc.ca!epp
>From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
>Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
>Subject: Re: Acronyms (Was Re: Articles and acronyms)
>Message-ID: <1992Sep26.015039.849@mala.bc.ca>
>Date: 26 Sep 92 01:50:39 -0700
>References: <HERMIT.92Sep10061033@si.ucsc.edu> <8+1nxmq.henry@netcom.com> <HERMIT.92Sep24125337@am.ucsc.edu> <1992Sep25.073350.1991@sq.sq.com>
>Organization: Malaspina College
>Lines: 15
>In article <1992Sep25.073350.1991@sq.sq.com>, msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>> 
>> To the general, non-technophilic public, I do not believe that ATM means
>> anything at all; for automatic teller machines, I think most people
>> just use the brand name used by their own bank, or perhaps some other
>> bank whose brand name seems more generic.  I believe (though I'm not
>> sure) that I've heard the TD[1] Bank's "Green Machine" and the CIBC[2]'s
>> "InstantTeller" used in this generic sense.
>> 
>Or the most revolting one, Canada Trust's "JohnnyCash".  They used
>Johnny Cash in the commercials.
>
>Around here they're usually called bank machines.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca


Johnny Cash would be a great name for a combination Port-A-Potty/Cash
Machine!

Dennis


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From: cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Acronyms (Was Re: Articles and acronyms)
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:50:09 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620


 wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

[ATMs]

> The most common names over here (or maybe that's just because I use them) seem
> to be Cashpoint (which is a trademark of Lloyds' bank) and Hole-in-the-wall 
> Machine, or just Hole-in-the-wall (As in "I've just got to get a tenner out of
> the Hole-in-the-wall").

And "hole-in-the-wall" was being used long before the advent of forklift-truck
ramraiding...

Tanaqui
From: "john lovett" <john.lovett@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: seconded
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:34:28 EST
Reply-To: "john lovett" <john.lovett@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications


Can someone tell me how the word 'seconded' is pronounced?  I'm thinking
of its use in sentences like: Major Smythe-Jones was seconded to the
Royal Fusiliers.

I have the impression it is pronounced seCONded, but since I am not
absolutely certain that I heard the word on Masterpiece Theater, I
thought it prudent to check with the net.

---
  SPEED 1.20 #1132  ****
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Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: MORE LIKE?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:02:09 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In a quote from a major newspaper discussing the Bush taxpayer option
to check a box on their tax return to direct a part of their tax payment
towards reducing the deficit, the paper states:

 "We believe it would be more
 like trying to fly a jumbo jet by letting everybody on board operate the
 controls at the same time."

Is the phrase "more like" considered proper in the English language?

-- 
Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  
From the beautiful and historic Mid-Hudson Valley area of NY state
From: maj@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: h as in Pittsburgh (was Re: to be or not to be
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:30:52 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep27.073647.2925@techbook.com>, dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:
> donna@filly.calstate.edu (Morag ni Shabhain) writes:
>>
>>To 'h' or not to 'h':  (Harrisburg; Pittsburgh)
>>was once explained to me in a non-forgettable way:
>>
>>YOU CAN'T KNOCK THE 'H' OUT OF PITTSBURGH!
> 
> Actually, they once tried to do that.  "They" in this case being the
> Board on Geographic Names and "once" was in the 1890's.  See George R.
> Stewart's _Names on the Land_ for a write up.
> 
> Basically, one of the standardizations they tried was to change all towns
> that ended in -burgh to -burg.  That is, make a Scottish name into a
> German one.  Unlike most of their other standardizations, this one was
> mostly successful.  You can search a atlas of the US and only find about
> a half-dozen names that end in -burgh.
> 
> In the case of Pittsburgh, a senator launched a campaign to get them to
> change it back.  Since the Board was made of representatives from
> varoious federal departments, he was successful in putting political
> pressure on them.
> 
> 
> 
[deletion]

Presumably, it is the strength of the Scots in Pittsburgh that is
apparent in both the retention of the -burgh ending and the
survival of Scotticisms like 'needs washed'.

> ---
> Dan Tilque    --     dant@techbook.com
-- 
Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ]    University of Waikato
Department of Mathematics and Statistics     Hamilton, New Zealand      
__________________________________________________________________
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if only I've stated it thrice.'
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: Re: consultant
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:32:51 GMT


Sorry, the first attempt didn't go through. What about "consult at" as
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: asimov@wk223.nas.nasa.gov (Daniel A. Asimov)
Subject: Re: MORE LIKE?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:43:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.150209.126936@watson.ibm.com> yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>
	[...]
>
>Is the phrase "more like" considered proper in the English language?

>Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)  

Of course, another usage of this phrase could be

	"The feelings between us were more like than love."   (:-)>

--Daz
From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: log in to vs. log into
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:43:48 GMT
Followup-To: alt.usage.english
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <koepp.6.717699787@cc1.unt.edu>, koepp@cc1.unt.edu (Cynthia
Koepp - Computing Center) wrote:
> 
> Does one "log into" a computer or "log in to" a computer? I had always gone 
> with the latter, but now I am not so sure.

And some say "login to."  But you are right, it's "log in to."

--

David Casseres
Exclaimer: Wow!
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: difference between boyfriend and girlfriend
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:14:47 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <90676@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
> 
> Let's update this, 1990s style:
> 
> "she's the significant other for me and I
> want all the world to see she's mine."
> 
Lauren, surely we ought to make this conform with a.e.u PC ratings and write

"They're the significant other for me and I want all the world to see they're
mine"

-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   Remember what happened to the dinosaurs!
wilcox@maths.oxford.ac.uk  |    I did---and look what happened to me.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:32:14 EDT
From: <HERSCH@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: difference between boyfriend and girlfriend
 <72283@apple.Apple.COM> <1992Sep13.205508.5398@csi.uottawa.ca>
 <1992Sep28.031210.17577@Princeton.EDU>

In article <1992Sep28.031210.17577@Princeton.EDU>, roger@crux.Princeton.EDU
(Roger Lustig) says:
>
> Besides, the Beatles *couldn't* have
>sung "my girlfriend" there, not only (as someone else pointed out)
>because of meter but because "girlfriend" isn't used for addressing
>someone....

Listen, girlfriend, it is among people *I* know.

H.
From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: login, logon, logout, logoff
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:09:33 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
Organization: Peculiar Penguins' Pavilion

In article <9209291739.AA29157@quark.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> "VICKIE STARBUCK" <TS0058@ohstmvsa.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>Personally, I logon to my MVS system most, because that is where
>I "live" and when I'm done I logoff.  But on our ultrix system
>I login and logout.

Yes, and there are a few bastard systems with "login" and "logoff," or "logon"
and "logout."

>Vickie

Seth L. Blumberg          | "Once again, fear and superstition triumphed over
slb22@cunixb.columbia.edu |    science and technology."
On CI$: 76460,1666        |        -- Anton Braun Quist, quoting Ed Whitaker
   > No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: pone@cs.mcgill.ca (Daniel (...) Shields)
Subject: consultant
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:23:19 GMT

Is it considered correct to say "I consult with" or "I consult for" when
referring to a position in a company for which the job title is 
"consultant" ?  Thanks.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Subject: Re: underground grammarian
Reply-To: mcoffin@IASTATE.EDU (Marie Coffin)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:06:35 GMT

In article <cass8806.292@elan.glassboro.edu>, cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE
CASSIDY) writes:
> i'm looking for a book by richard mitchell the "underground grammarian". it'
> s called "the graves of acadame". as far as i can tell, it's out of print. 
> does anybody know anything to the contrary? or has anybody read this book?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> kc

As far as I know, it IS out of print, but I've seen a number of copies at used 
book stores such as Half-Price Books.  It's a great book -- a few years old
now, but definitely not out of date.  Hope you can find a copy.  

Marie Coffin
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: sp@osf.org (Simon Patience)
Subject: Re: Acronyms (Was Re: Articles and acronyms)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:45:30 GMT

In article <1a6mt4INNs4t@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale) writes:
> References: <1992Sep26.015039.849@mala.bc.ca> <HERMIT.92Sep10061033@si.ucsc.edu> <8+1nxmq.henry@netcom.com> <HERMIT.92Sep24125337@am.ucsc.edu> <1992Sep25.073350.1991@sq.sq.com>
> 
> In a previous article, epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) says:
> 
> >Or the most revolting one, Canada Trust's "JohnnyCash".  They used
> >Johnny Cash in the commercials.
> >
> >Around here they're usually called bank machines.
> 
> We call them bank machines too.  I don't know what gets into corporations. 
> Didn't they -know- JohnnyCash would sound like a coin-operated toilet? 

To British ears (mine at least :-) JohnnyCash would sound like loose
change to buy condoms with.

Simon.

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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
Subject: Re: Capitalisation of "raison d'etre"
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:20:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.233615.28290@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
yholbroo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Yash Holbrook) writes:
>>>"The Raison d'Etre of ..."
>>
>>I'm in two minds as to the circumflex, though.  Here's why.  Since
>>"raison d'\^{e}tre" has a circumflex in French, it would continue
>>having it in English, at least in my writing.  Now in French
>>capitalised vowels lose their accents, while in English there is no
>>such rule.  So if it is first borrowed and then capitalised, it
>>should end up as "Raison d'\^{E}tre".
>>
>>Other opinions from accent-sensitive people?
>
>Since you ask for opinions...
>
>I think it would be mistaken to stick a circumflex over the capital
>"E", for one of the reasons you mention yourself.  In French, the
>capital letter loses any accent mark.  Why should WE add one?

I know this quotation is frequently circulated, but I always think of
it when people discuss the correct use of diacritics in English, so
here it comes again:

   English is a straightforward, frank, honest, open-hearted,
   no-nonsense language, which has little truck with such devilish
   devious devices as accents; indeed U.S. editors and printers are
   often thrown into a dither when a foreign word insinuates itself
   into the language.  However, there is one word on which Americans
   seem to have closed ranks, printing it confidently, courageously,
   and almost invariably complete with accent---the cheese presented
   to us as M\"unster.

   Unfortunately, Munster doesn't take an accent.

      --- Waverly Root, in the International Herald Tribune (1982)
--
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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: wmc@torpedo.photon.com (Bill Cornette)
Subject: Re: Phobia
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 20:33:37 GMT

michaelw@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Will) writes:
: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
: >  As I understand it, the word "xenophobia" means "fear or distaste against
: >something different from one's own." Therefore, "People of <some country> 
: >are not friendly to foreign visitors because they are xenophobic" is a correct
: >sentence.
: 

	Actually the sentence is NOT correct IMHO, since the "they"
refers to the foreign visitors, not the people.  Try:

"Due to xenophobia, people of <> are not friendly to foreign visitors."
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)
Subject: Re: clean somebody's clock
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:39:13 GMT

In article <HERMIT.92Sep24130829@am.ucsc.edu>, hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:
> 
> My grandmother (b. 1917, South Dakota, USA) uses that phrase where
> today's youth might say "kick ass."  To rout, to defeat soundly, in
> some competition...
> 
> I wish I knew the etymology though.

I'd never heard of that one before, but I have heard "a punch in
the dial", and similar expressions where "dial" means "face".

Not lately, though.
-- 
Peter Moylan                      eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Acronyms (Was Re: Articles and acronyms)
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:10:13 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Sep25.073350.1991@sq.sq.com>, msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>>  |ATM can mean all sorts of things; ATM machine narrows it down.
>> 
>> Well, I can't think of anything that ATM might mean besides an
>> automated teller machine...
> 
>> Though I know that a lot of people around
>> here refer to them universally as VersaTellers (even though that's a
>> trademark of Bank of America and really only refers to the obuiquitous
>> BofA ATM's...
> 
> To the general, non-technophilic public, I do not believe that ATM means
> anything at all; for automatic teller machines, I think most people
> just use the brand name used by their own bank, or perhaps some other
> bank whose brand name seems more generic.  

The most common names over here (or maybe that's just because I use them) seem
to be Cashpoint (which is a trademark of Lloyds' bank) and Hole-in-the-wall 
Machine, or just Hole-in-the-wall (As in "I've just got to get a tenner out of
the Hole-in-the-wall").
-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   Remember what happened to the dinosaurs!
wilcox@maths.oxford.ac.uk  |    I did---and look what happened to me.
From: BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Cincinnati dialect in AHD3
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:23:18 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky

In the new 3rd edition of the American Heritage Dictionary, the
front matter explains the dialect labels and mentions that some of
them are quite specific, giving as an example Cincinnati.
 
My question is: what word or words in AHD3 are labeled as Cincinnati
dialect.  Perhaps someone has an electronic version that allows
keyword searching.
 
Thanks in advance,
Brad Grissom
University of Kentucky
 
bgrissom@ukcc.uky.edu
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque)
Subject: h as in Pittsburgh (was Re: to be or not to be
Organization: Pseudopolis Yard
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:36:47 GMT

donna@filly.calstate.edu (Morag ni Shabhain) writes:
>
>To 'h' or not to 'h':  (Harrisburg; Pittsburgh)
>was once explained to me in a non-forgettable way:
>
>YOU CAN'T KNOCK THE 'H' OUT OF PITTSBURGH!

Actually, they once tried to do that.  "They" in this case being the
Board on Geographic Names and "once" was in the 1890's.  See George R.
Stewart's _Names on the Land_ for a write up.

Basically, one of the standardizations they tried was to change all towns
that ended in -burgh to -burg.  That is, make a Scottish name into a
German one.  Unlike most of their other standardizations, this one was
mostly successful.  You can search a atlas of the US and only find about
a half-dozen names that end in -burgh.

In the case of Pittsburgh, a senator launched a campaign to get them to
change it back.  Since the Board was made of representatives from
varoious federal departments, he was successful in putting political
pressure on them.


Some of the other standardizations were to change -borough to -boro,
get rid of possesive forms and diacritic characters (including
apostrophes as in D'Lo, Mississippi) and hyphens.  To a certain extent,
they were successful, especially with possessives.  The weirdest change
they attempted to make was to write all names as a single word.  I've
seen "Frenchglen" and its like on some older maps, although I think
most of the stranger ones have now reverted.

---
Dan Tilque    --     dant@techbook.com
From: C.Thomas.Eyford.III@dartmouth.edu (C. Thomas Eyford III)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Capitalisation of "raison d'etre"
Date: 2 Oct 92 09:14:12 GMT
  <1992Sep29.233615.28290@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Sep29.233615.28290@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
yholbroo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Yash Holbrook) writes:

> >>"The Raison d'Etre of ..."
> >
> >I'm in two minds as to the circumflex, though.  Here's why.  Since
> >"raison d'\^{e}tre" has a circumflex in French, it would continue
> >having it in English, at least in my writing.  Now in French
> >capitalised vowels lose their accents, while in English there is no
> >such rule.  So if it is first borrowed and then capitalised, it should
> >end up as "Raison d'\^{E}tre".
> >
> >Other opinions from accent-sensitive people?
> >

To be blunt, English has no such rule of accent deletion, etc. simply
because it has no accents, pure and simple.  Therefore, it seems
logical to assume the rules for accents of the language we are
borrowing the phrase from.  Proceeding on this assumption, the
'correct' capitalization should be

    Raison d'Etre

-Tom
From: tariqh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Tariq Hamid)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: English Dictionary
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:03:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1992Oct6.153219.6465@fzi.de> xiong@fzi.de (Xiong Xun) writes:

>Anyone there knows if there is any English dictionary beeing reachable per ftp?
>Please email me the info. Thanks a lot!

>Xun Xiong

The place to look is:

	src.doc.ic.ac.uk ( 146.169.3.7 )

	the directory where the dictionaries are located is:

		/text/dict

	They also have a directory containing the works of Shakespeare.
	Its path is:

		/doc/shakespeare

2B|^2B

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From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: MORE LIKE?
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:26:16 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Sep30.175924.18143@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>, evan@hpl.hp.com (Evan Kirshenbaum) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.150209.126936@watson.ibm.com> yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>>
>>Is the phrase "more like" considered proper in the English language?
> 
> In certain contexts, certainly.  Its meaning is something like "a
> better analogy/metaphor is...".  At the end of the sentence you have
> to add "than [what they said it was]".  i.e.,
> 
> 	We believe it would be more like trying to fly a jumbo jet by
> 	letting everybody on board operate the controls at the same
> 	time [than a rational way to reduce the deficit].
> 
Yes, "more like" makes sense if they are making a comparison.  I doesn't
all have to happen in the same sentence, however:

	[They say it is like having a copilot in a jumbo jet.]  We
	believe it is more like trying to fly a jumbo jet by letting 
	everybody on board operate the controls at the same time.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Multimeter / Multi-meter
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:47:27 GMT
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <14896@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> s913606@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Mab) writes:
>Just how do _you_ pronounce "multimeter"???

MUL-tee-mee-tur.

>Bear in mind that when the word ends in metER it has no emphasis
>placed on the last two syllables (think therMOmeter), 

Well, not always in this country.  We say therMOmeter and speDOmeter
and all those.  But we also say CENtimeter.  Generally (not always), the
stress goes on "meter" for SI units and on the syllable before if it's
an instrument.  There are notable exceptions to the rule.  Multimeter
is one, since it comes out of "voltmeter" and "ohmmeter."

Another that annoys me no end is "kilometer."  I say it as "KILometer" though
most car ads say it as "kilOmeter" is if it's a measuring instrument.


--
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Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: Nico Tranquilli <@>
Subject: nasty words
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A716F73AFC040B1C@mac3.di.unipi.it>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 30 Oct 92 18: 29:14 GMT
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:55:39 GMT

I would like to be more active on alt.sex, but unfortunately I've a 
very limited dictionary. Can anyone post a list of dirty words ?

Nico.