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From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Call for Enthusiasts - Military Jeeps
Date: 25 Aug 92 00:06:20 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Howdy! I am currently starting to get into
military vehicles (modren and back as far as WWII).
I would be interested if there are any jeep
affcianoados (sp) out there who would be willing to
share information, sources, tips etc. Also,
I am looking for a good used Military Jeep to
purchase is these folks, or anyone else knows of
one or has one personally for sale.. 

All inquiries, help, comments through e-mail
please! Keep on truckin' and Jeepin'!

Steve
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From: rjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Schneider)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 14:33:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Police Tauri
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.autos

johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:

>Yes.  Or at least, closer than it has been.  An FYI in Car And Driver a month
>or so ago reported that the '93 SHO will have an automatic as an option.  It
>also stated that the Yamaha engine for '93 will be bored out to 3.2L (up from
>3.0) for more low-end torque.  Waiting with bated breath...

	I saw a "Car Buyer Guide" for 1993 models in the bookstore
	yesterday. It claimed the the SHO will be bored out to 3.4l to
	increase torque. It claimed that the HP for the automatic version
	(also due out in 1993) would still be 200, but, made no claims for
	the manual version.

Bob Schneider     rjs@fc.hp.com
From: RSA@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Auto accident in Ontario
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:11:33 GMT

Hi

A friend of mine got into an accident in Hamilton, Ontario.
He has been charged with  the offence ``Fail to Yield''.
His car was a rental and it was totaled the other car is a 
NIssan 240sx (1990) and the front end of  is completely
damaged. He survived with a few bruises and she was bit shaken
but no major injuries. He paid the ticket and pleaded guilty.

Now he is worried about a few things.

1) Will there be a law suit?
2) Can the other drivers relatives harass him?
3) Should he save some money to hire a lawyer/to appear
   in a court in Ontario. (He lives in Alberta)?

Thanks in advance,

RSA

PS: Obviously neither one of us know anything about auto insurance
in Ontario.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: philip@simserver1com (Philip Peake)
Subject: Remote (un)lock device for Jeep
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:04:26 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

I just bought a nice shiny new grand cherokee.
It had remote locking included, and I received
a remote device with the keys.

Later, I called in on the spares counter to pick
up another, for my wife.

JEEP want $114 for it !!!!!

Does anyone know if you can get these anywhere
other than JEEP ? and at what price ?

I seriously doubt that they are manufactured by JEEP,
so it is quite possible that buying from the manufacturer
would be significantly cheaper - if I can find out
who makes these things ....

Philip
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: wales@valeria.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales)
Subject: Re: Moving a car to California!
Reply-To: wales@CS.UCLA.EDU (Rich Wales)
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:42:54 GMT

Sharen A. Rund wrote:

	there is a one-time fee ($300) you pay for bringing a car
	in from out-of-state, unless the car has a CA EPA smog
	sticker on it (I heard of a guy buying up old radiators,
	or wherever they're [the stickers] are put . . . .)

I believe the normal spot for the sticker is under the hood.

When my '84 Honda was repaired after a front-end collision a few years
ago (a drunk kid smashed into my parked car at 3 in the morning), the
body shop "naturally" didn't bother to get a new emissions sticker for
the replacement hood.  I later went to the local Honda dealer to ask
for the sticker, but they wouldn't give it to me to put on the car my-
self.  Rather, I had to make an appointment to meet a regional manager
at the dealership a few days later, and he =personally= affixed the new
smog sticker to the designated spot on my car's new hood.

I guess Honda (or the EPA) must have been worried that some people
might take the sticker and put it on some other car. :-{

--
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3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, CA 90024-1596 // +1 (310) 825-5683
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From: rat@erg.sri.com (Ray Trent)
Subject: Re: Strike at Saturn?
Reply-To: rat@erg.sri.com (Ray Trent)
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:50:12 GMT

In an article, alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Amy Young Leith) writes:
>second.  However, I'm not going to support a twisted industry because
>of pity if they can't survive in the realities of supply and demand.
>If they aren't selling as many cars as the foreign people, THIS SHOULD
>TELL THEM SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR PRODUCT AND THEY SHOULD MAKE CHANGES
>ACCORDINGLY. 

Actually, volume isn't exactly the problem. The Chevrolet *Division*
of General Motors sells almost as many cars in the U.S. as *all*
import brands combined (I remember it being about 90% parity a couple
of years ago, this may have changed somewhat).

I think what they are complaining about is that, due to Japanese
competition (unfair or otherwise), they have to lower the price so far
that they make very little profit on an individual vehicle.

Now, *if* indeed Japanese manufacturers are engaging in unfair
practices such as domestic subsidization of exports combined with high
(effective) tarriffs on imports, I'd say they have a legitimate gripe.
They used to do this in spades. I don't have any direct knowledge
about whether they still do, however. (But, Japanese cars have gotten
far more expensive lately which leads me to believe they either have
stopped trading unfairly or have decided they've carved out their
niche and have gone on to the phase of gouging back their profits).
-- 
"When you're down, it's a long way up
 When you're up, it's a long way down
 It's all the same thing
 And it's no new tale to tell"                      ../ray\..
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From: sheriffp@Software.Mitel.COM (Peter Sheriff)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Pep Boys locations.
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:51:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


    I cross the border into the USA quite often and have got some really
good deals at an automotive chain called Wheels. I was in Pennsylvania
recently and noticed a Pep Boys store but didn't have a chance to go in.
Are there any Pep Boys stores in Northern New York state (around
Ogdensburg or Syracuse)? I haven't noticed them and would like to see
what kind of goodies this store sells.
    If anyone knows of a similar chain in these areas, I would be glad
of the information.

                                  Thanks

                                    Pete
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: Old topic: Saturns
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 19:45:21 GMT

wow..that saturns are well prices..
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From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Best type of wipers?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:07:41 GMT

mvelasco@fraser.sfu.ca (Matthew Velasco) writes:

|>PNCSPPC@CCVAX1.CC.NCSU.EDU writes:

|>>I've never been happy with how well my windshield wipers work.  I've tried
|>>several different brands (standard single blade) over the past few years,
|>>but that didn't seem to make much of a difference.  Since I have to get my
|>>car inspected soon, and I need new wiper blades, I thought I might try once
|>>more to solve this problem.  Do the "European-style" double wipers work any
|>>better than single-blade wipers?  Also, has anyone tried the new
|>>"triple-blade" wipers that supposedly never wear out?  Since my Usenet
|>>newsgroup access is variable I'd appreciate replies by e-mail.  Thanks.

|>Personally, double wiper blades are ugly.  It also seems like it doesn't 
|>make a *big* diff.  I don't know why they add European style to products.
|>If it's really Euro style than I guess fine Euro autos would have it... so
|>I would refrain from those "European-style" blades.       
|>Triple edged wipers wipe better than single, but not good enough, with its
|>price difference.  So I guess it's back to the all original single blade
|>wipers price-wise and originality.

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo - stay away from triple edge

I've been thru the wiper fiasco. I was not impressed with the triple edge
wipers. It is a good concept but I found the rubber was not flexible to
allow the blade to flip over properly as I believe it was intended.
So instead of being pulled accross the windshield, it was pushed.
This, as you might imagine, caused a lot of skipping and a nice distorting
film across the windshield.
According to the directions, the wipers were supposed to "conform" to
my windshield after a few months. Well...
1) Want am I not supposed to see out my window for a few months ?
2) They never did anyways.

I finally went and bought some ANCO (<-sp) (the brand name blades in the 
blue and yellow packaging) aero blades and I've been _very_ happy with
them. I would strongly suggest you check your paper for sales on these
blades at you local autoparts store. They are on sale pretty frequently.
But even at regular price, they beat the triple egde blade.
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From: C.Wong1@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Fuel prices re: was US CARS FOR SALE IN UK
Reply-To: C.Wong1@lut.ac.uk (C Wong)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 13:15:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.234441.18354@cornerstone.com> aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron) writes:
>> Pontiac Firebird Formula 400
>> 1978
>> 405 cu inch or 6.6 litre
>> extensively modified, properly de-smogged
>> excellent inside and out
>> UK import/spec from new
>> 
>Just curious, but how can you folks afford to run a car like this out there?  
>It's bad enough here, but aren't your fuel prices two or three times ours??
>
>Andy

leaded is about 51p a litre, or 1 dollar a litre (premium, super ...)
super unleaded (98 RON, slightly higher octane value than above) is 47p/l
regular unleaded (95 RON) is 42p/l
diesel is around 36p/l (?? not too sure, I stick with super u.)

how much is it in the US ?? (I think Sweden or Italy has the highest petrol
			    prices in Europe/Scandanavia)
From: PNCSPPC@CCVAX1.CC.NCSU.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Flex fan or new fan clutch?
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:54:27 GMT

I have a 1980 Datsun 510 wagon.  I'm fairly certain that the fan clutch
went bad a couple of years ago.  The car runs on the cool side since now
the fan spins faster than it used to.  Because the car is 12 years old a
friend suggested that I just forget about it, which is what I've done so
far.  However, I don't think the extra strain on the engine is doing it any
good.  The car has about 82K miles on it, and I'd like it to last a few
more years, if possible.  I probably won't opt for a new fan clutch since I
was quoted a price of $74 for a new one.  I'm thinking of buying a flex
fan.  Are these any good?  Or would I be better off just leaving things
alone?  Since my Usenet newsgroup access is variable I'd appreciate replies
by e-mail.  Thanks.
 
Phil Calvert
 
<Bitnet: pncsppc@ncsuvax / Internet: pncsppc@ccvax1.cc.ncsu.edu>
From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Spending More to Buy "Better" Cars
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:44:52 GMT
	<1992Aug27.173922.1779@engage.pko.dec.com>
Reply-To: ilh@lcs.mit.edu
Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems
In-reply-to: sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com's message of 27 Aug 92 18:33:11 GMT

sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com (Vikas Sontakke) writes:
   Does "d" from the BMW stands for a type of truck fuel?  If so, I pity the
   intelligence of those whose heads are turned by this car.

No, they're turning their heads AWAY from the car so they don't have
to breathe the diesel smoke. :-)
--

                                Lee Hetherington
                                ilh@lcs.mit.edu
From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Trans. problem on 91 Lincoln TC
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:26:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: whirlwind.berkeley.edu

I guess from reading all the postings concerning this thread that
Ford has always had this type of transmission problem.  We have
a Ford Aerostar and there has been a recent recall (actually about
1/2 year ago) about the possiblity of the car sliding while in park.

Does anyone who have a probe (any year) experienced this
problem yet?



David Shy
shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu
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From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,misc.consumers,sci.environment,talk.environment
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:49:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.jgraham.715448959
Organization: Indiana University

Well now that those working in the auto industry have pointed out the
errors in Eric's post, I would like to share a little annecdote. When
I was a youngster in the sixth grade (1975) a kid in our class
interviewed a local citizen who had developed an automobile engine
that ran entirely on hydrogen. From the sixth graders report to the
class we learned that the developer was unable to interest anyone from
the auto industry in his engine, and at the time I was mystified by
this seemingly illogical situation. Now the picture seems a lot
clearer.

When you say that advances are not made until they become economically
feasible, you should add not until they become feasible under the current
situation (oligopoly, plurocracy, ect.). It is quickly becoming clear
that this arrangement does not have the ability to regulate itself to
the extent necessary to avoid catastrophic consequences, an in those
cases, only after the fact.

Cheers,


Jim
J. E. Graham
Biology/Chemistry Departments
Indiana University -Bloomington
.............."Il n'y a pas des sciences apliquees, mais il y a..............
................ des applications de la science". L. Pasteur.................
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:22:00 -0400 
From: George Ko Chu <gc1p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: HELP!!! VANDALIZED!!!

Someone sprayed shaving cream all over my car this morning. I hosed it off
but there is still any oily streak everywhere the shaving cream was on the
paint! I plan to wash the car once I get back from work, hopefully this will
help. Any suggestions?

Please e-mail the replies. I will post a summary of the replies with
(hopefully) the method that worked!!

thanks
george
From: gregb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Begay)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:20:58 GMT
Subject: Re: 1987-1991 CAMRYS may lock you in the car
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.autos

>>> The Sept issue of Consumer Reports apparently has a story about a 
>>> problem with CAMRYs made before the 1992 model year. An electrical 
>>> relay can fail, locking the car door locks and windows. The only way 
>>> out then is crawl out the trunk, i.e. release the trunk via the 
>>> remote switch, pull down the back seat and crawl out.
>>> 
>>
>>Better hope you have the LE model as the DX didn't have fold down rear seats.
>>At least that was listed as a standard feature on my '87 Camry LE.  Of
>>course I didn't have to worry, I didn't have power locks/windows.  :-)
>>
>
>My 91 Camry DX does have fold down rear seats. I don't know whether it's
>standard or not.

My 90 Camry DX does *not* have fold down rear seats.

>----------

GregB
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From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,misc.consumers,sci.environment,talk.environment
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle
Keywords: BOOM
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:56:13 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <2AA544AE.27353@ics.uci.edu>, craigm@chateau-rouge.ics.uci.edu (Craig MacFarlane) writes:

>Hard problem: Separating the hydrogen from the water right before the
>	      hydrogen needs to be burned.

>I admittedly haven't any idea what it takes to separate hydrogen and
>oxygen

Then you should have checked before posting.  It requires more energy than
you will get by burning the resulting hydrogen.  That's why the hydrogen-
power idea became popular during the age of Practical Atomic Power, in the
late fifties.  The idea was to build big nukes that would do nothing but
make hydrogen from seawater and pipe the hydrogen by gas lines to point-of-
-sale.  But the hydrogen itself was merely a storage medium for the nuclear
power.

>Can you imagine filling your tank with the garden hose? :)

Don't you think that's been a dream for decades?  The Patent Office has a
special section dedicated to "water engines and perpetual motion".

You might as well fill your tank with grass clippings and wait for them to
decompose into methane...

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
How about we all do something reasonable?  I bet that'll confuse 'em!
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Yet another fancy piece of cops' equipment
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 07:16:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <Bts8qC.J6v@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>In article <17bj2bINNh82@agate.berkeley.edu> avk@hafnium.cchem.berkeley.edu (Tony Konashenok) writes:
>>Two days ago in Marin County I was pulled over by a cop on a motorcycle.
>
on a Harley which made getting the ticket seem a little less 
Cool!!! The last time I got pulled over for speeding, the cop was also
on a Harley and that seemed to make getting a ticket just a little less
department in the USA (or at least in Texas) would get by with running Japanese
patrol CARS but so many of them employ Japanese patrol bikes.
(I guess a BMW patrol bike be acceptable)

Neal Howard

Sorry about the scrambled lines in the last post of this msg, VI barfed due
to line noise over the modem.
From: bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Law regarding speeding ticket ?
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:36:39 GMT
Distribution: usa

in article <1992Aug27.225350.16551@tellab5.tellabs.com>, chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) says:
> Nntp-Posting-Host: tellab3
> In article <1992Aug24.155747.10631@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>, xepama@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (P.Mann) writes:
>> You need to do more driving in Montana.  Three years ago I was clocked at 81
>> in a 55 (no hills, no excuses).  Total cost was $5, no points, no report
>> back to my home state.

>    You say the total cost was $5. but don't say who got paid.
>    Was it the traffic cop, the judge, or the state of Montana?

That wasn't a speeding ticket.  It was a "Waste of natural resources"
fine.

What other states have this instead of speeding tickets?  I remember
hearing about one, but I can't remember what state it was.
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From: kcreta@sedona.intel.com (Kenneth Creta)
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi 3000GT-VR4, Toyota MR-2 Turbo
Originator: kcreta@sedona
Reply-To: kcreta@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation, ASIC in the Desert
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:07:36 GMT


In article <1992Aug31.190551.25444@ncar.ucar.edu>, cbh@windsurf.scd.ucar.edu (Cris Hannu) writes:
> In article <CRUM.92Aug28130541@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, crum@fcom.cc.utah.edu (Gary Crum) writes:

> > Mitsubishi/Dodge and $2100 for the Toyota.  What would a dealer be
> > willing to sell a Mitsubishi/Dodge for, say, a 1992 model given
> > several such cars on the lot?  $25000 by any chance?
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^V^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    ^^^^^ is about what *they* pay for them.

I paid $25000.  I walked in, told him that $25000 was what I would pay, and
asked if that was realistic.  If not, I told him to let me know and I'll
come back after I saved a little more.  He said he could work with me and he
did.  (Mine is a Stealth R/T).

>   I don't think I've been to any dealer that had *several* of these on
>   the lot in the first place, but I paid $27,000 (list 30,500) for my '92
>   3000GT SL (notice non-VR4, mr. insurance man wants to reem me too badly for
>   the VR$$) with all the toys.

On the lot I visited, there were over 15 Stealths of different types.

						Ken
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: yhcrana@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Karl Brown)
Subject: Re: Keeping Glass Clean
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:56:50 GMT

beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:



>I just bought a small japanese car and have no trouble keeping
>the paint clear and shinny with a $5 bottle of Armor ALl wax
                     ^^^^^^                           ^^^
>but what aobut the glass is there something bettern then WINDEX???
>         ^^^^^                              ^^^^^^^   ^

Did you type this really quickly or late at night?  :)

Well, the best thing I've ever seen for windows is newspaper.  What
you do is wet the window down with a wet rag, then dry it using
crumpled up newspaper.  Change it often so it stays crisp and doesn't
get soggy, and use lots of elbow grease.  The results are astonishing.

    --Karl



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From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: Dealer Service/maintenance (was Haggling with car dealers)
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:48:30 GMT

|> Is there any good reason for taking your car to a dealer for service/regular
|> maintenance?  If you know a good mechanic that is trained and knowledgeable
|> about your make/model car, then why go to a dealer?  Especially if it costs
|> you more to go to a dealer! 

If you go to a dealer during the warrantee period, you're less likely
to have trouble with the manufacturer on warrantee repairs.  After
that, you'll probably get better service and lower prices from the
better high quality non-dealer mechanics.

-- 
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