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From: cjh@tinton.ccur.com (Christopher J. Henrich)
Subject: Re: Book-title modesty
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp., Tinton Falls, NJ
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:13:57 GMT

In article <1k25aqINNl2b@lynx.unm.edu> rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires) writes:
>	I was in a branch of the public
>	library today...
>
>	Myself, I got ...
>	and Tobias Smollett's xlation of _Don Quixote_.
That's a damn good public library.

>	...  Does anyone have suggestions on books
>	or whatever for learning foreign vocabulary???  

C. S. Lewis (in a letter to somebody) recommended reading the
New Testament in the relevant language.  You already know the plot,
and it is likely to be a landmark work in that language, yet not
written in flowery ornate style.

Regards,
Chris Henrich
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Ancient History Novels
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:35:37 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1k25dh$ej6@agate.berkeley.edu>  
c60b-2hz@e260-3d.berkeley.edu (Nathaniel Meyers) writes:
> This may be light-weight as a mere mystery rather than literature  
but
> _Silver Pigs_ by Lindsey Davis, a P.I. mystery set in 70 A.D. Rome  
and Britain,
> was a good read.

The sequel, Shadows in Bronze, is also quite good. There's 
a third book in the series, "Venus in Copper," that's not
out in mass makket paperback yet, though I just ordered a copy
from the Quality Paperback Book Club.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: hoosiers@carson.u.washington.edu (Mary Loveless)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Cats in Literature
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:25:18 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

For cats in light fiction, I enjoy "The Cat Who......" series by Lillian
Jackson Braun.  Not the greatest of writing, and remarkably unlikely
plots, but the *cats* are excellent, and given proper respect by the
author and their fictional owner.
From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Yet another bookstore incident
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:22:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

In article <C1AHJx.K2y@panix.com> mtaranto@panix.com (Mark Taranto) writes:
>
>I keep meeting Jim at restaurants with literary connections.  The first
>was The Whitehorse Tavern -- where Dylan Thomas had his last drink, before
>his head exploded.  This time it was a TriBeCa landmark -- Riverrun -- named
>for the first word in Joyces FINNEGANS WAKE.  What next, the Algonquin?
>
Back in the 80s, when I was living another life in New York, a group 
of us went to see Marsha Norman's "'Night, Mother," after which we 
walked over to the Algonquin for a restorative drink.  The bartender 
asked for our orders and I said, "I'll have whatever Robert Benchley 
used to have." 

Instantly the chair I was sitting on disintegrated beneath me, 
throwing me on the floor.

My advice: don't mess around with the ghosts at the Algonquin. 

--Barbara 



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From: glink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Gary Link)
Subject: Horses in Literature was  Re: Buried Treasure  
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:27:47 GMT


Heather offers a trade..my whip for her Ryan...

Oooh Heather, my hand-braided linen Swaine&Adney?  Geez.  It has such a
good sting.

Let me think on't/


Susanna

ObBook: Since the thread on cats proved to be so interesting, how about
one on the horse?  I have a collection of equine literature (OK, so some
of it might just be litrachoor) that started to amass when I was four
and reading on my own.

FOr the sporting types, I recommend R. S. Surtees' _Mr. Sponge's
Sporting Tour_, the copy I have is a British edition from Alan Sutton
Publishing, ISBN 0-86299-153-6, complete with 90 woodcuts by Hohn Leech
that capture the flavour of the stories excellently.  It is from their
Pocket Classics line and a lovely book.

If Bertie Wooster were to be a horseman, he would have been Mr. Sponge.
Hapless but enthusiastic for the sport.

Susanna

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From: pamela@sscux1.ssc.gov (pamela gurd)
Subject: Re: Buried Treasure -or- So, whaddaya use for bookmarks?
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:04:51 GMT


Duthie's in Vancouver has given away some nice bookmarks over
the years.  One I remember in particular commemorated their
founder, Bill Duthie, with the phrase, "Litera Scripta Manet
- The written word remains".  (Which I am sure they spelled 
correctly, even if I didn't.)

I like Duthie's, particularly the hole-in-the-wall in Arbutus,
and the youngish grey-haired woman who works there.

Pam.
From: jpope@pafosu1.hq.af.mil (John C Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Star Wars Trilogy
Date: 24 Jan 93 07:14:19 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


    I just wanted to ask if any of you have read the Star Wars
trilogy by Timothy Zahn.  When is the third book coming out?  I have
read the other two and I really want to know when I can expect to 
"finish" the story.  Any info would be appreciated.  Please E-mail
as bandwidth is non-recyclable.  

               _/
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John C. Pope,
Air Force Captain trapped in the Pentagon.
(703) 695-9415
pope@execpo6.hq.af.mil
From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Texas law-makers are stupid
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:12:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1jakocINN7li@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>, mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley) writes:
> In article <1993Jan16.215619.15960@cheshire.oxy.edu>, rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:
# # 	A minor correction: the Supreme Court sodomy case was
# # Bowers v. Hardwick.  (Michael Bowers being the Georgia Attorney
# # General at the time.)
# 
# Still is, sad to say.  And Bowers is still making an 
# ass of himself on precisely this issue.  Clayton Cramer
# would really like Georgia, I suspect.
#  
#  Meg Worley 				Internet:  mworley@mathcs.emory.edu		

Not for that reason.  I was also disturbed by the Hardwicke
decision.  What consenting adults do in private is none of the
government's business -- and it doesn't matter if it's sodomy
or employment.


-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"When freedom destroys order, order will destroy freedom." -- Eric Hoffer
Not a goal, just a statement of reality.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:26355 alt.censorship:10112
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Deconstructing Angelou
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:03:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

Benjamin John McCall quotes the Inaugural Poem:

	... the mastadon, the dinosaur 
	who left dry tokens of their sojourn 
	here on our planet floor ...

William Sapphire, of the New York Times, remarked that this conjured 
up for him an image that he was not certain Angelou had intended. On 
a related matter, did anyone else notice how often the Radio and TV 
Johnnies granted Maya Italian citizenship? Maya Angelo: a cross-town 
rival to Mama Celeste, perhaps.

						RABworm

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From: wismith@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (William R. Smith)
Subject: Re: Ancient History Novels
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:28:20 GMT

Oliver Sharp was kind enough to get me off the hook by supplying the
name Elizabeth Marshall Thomas as the author of _Reindeer Moon_ and
_Animal Wife_.

Thank you, Oliver.



William Sburgfort Smith
Intel, SSD
From: revpk@cellar.org (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: "Harlan Ellison's Watching" by Harlan Ellison
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:29:28 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:

> In article <93025.114017U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> >In article <1k0rebINNjhp@transfer.stratus.com>, lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.
> >(Laurie Mann) says:
> >
> >>I think he was talking about that "classic," The Oscar.
> >
> >Oh,most definitely...his references to it in _The Glass Teat_ make it seem
> >like Harlan cringes merely by typing in the _title_,much less talking about
> >it at length. To my knowledge,the only other thing he's written which causes
> >him as much reluctance is his novel _The Man With Nine Lives_,which also got
> >mentioned in an extremely derogatory fashion somewhere else.
> >
> 
> TMWNL isn't very good, true, but it's an Ace Double with _Touch of Infinity_
> which is a pretty decent short story collection.  Are you sure you aren't
> confusing it with _The Doomsman_ which was a double book with some John
> Brunner novel or something like that.  I heard a story about some fan who
> tried to get Harlan to autograph a copy of TD and Harlan proceeded to
> tear it to shreds.
> 	"You don't want to read this trash!  It's a terrible book!  Here,
> 	 read the John Brunner half!  It's much better!"
> 
> 	"Y-you're destroying my book!  I paid X$ for it!"
> 
> 	"So?  I wrote the damn thing!  I'm allowed to . . . "
> 
> Makes for a nice story but I'm not entirely convinced it's true.  The only
> thing that makes me doubt its falsity is that this *is* Harlan Ellison
> we're talking about . . . :-)
> 
	Uh, yeah, it's true. Just recently I was cleaning out some old
magazines, and clipped an interview with Ellison from the old "Twilight
Zone" magazine. The interviewer asks Ellison about the story-- he's not
exactly proud of "Doomsman." It's not that he's ashamed of it, it's just not
as good as he'd wanted it to be. And he has torn up copies of it on
occasion.

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"Do I BELIEVE in the Bible? Hell, man, I've even SEEN one!!"
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From: emery@goldfinger.mitre.org (David Emery)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Ancient History Novels
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:31:33 GMT
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.

I second the recommendation for "Silver Pigs".  There are two other
books, "Venus in Copper", and "Shadows(?) of Bronze".  
				dave
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From: nemet@ide.com (Todd Nemet)
Subject: Help with bookstore
Organization: Interactive Development Environments, SF
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:54:24 GMT

A friend and I are planning a road trip to Oregon this
weekend.  I seem to recall hearing that there is a very
large bookstore in Portland called Border's.  But when
I called information, #25 ("What a dainty moniker.")
said that there was no Border's listed.

Please email me if you know the bookstore in question
as buying our weight in books is a major goal of the road
trip.


Thanks in advance,

Todd Nemet
nemet@ide.com


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From: heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath)
Subject: Re: Maya Angelou inaugural poem
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:25:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.020613.22207@oracle.us.oracle.com> mrichter@oracle.uucp (Mark Richter) writes:
>The poem misses someone really *important*. The English. Hey, they only wrote
>the Declaration of Independence, the United States Consitution and founded
>this great country. The poem mentions Germans, Swedes, and about every other
>cult, clan, group and nation under the sun. But, not the English.
>
>Must not be room for the English in this Politically Correct America of the
>90's. What a loss.


Well, the poem WAS written in English.......

*grin*
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From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Subject: Re: "The Crying Game" (SPOILER WARNING) (Was Re: Heather's Ford)
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:38:59 GMT

In article <106010@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:

>I'm talking through my hat here, because I haven't read the book in
>question.  But I didn't see anything terribly powerful about the character
>you're referring to.  On the contrary, I saw someone needy, hurt, human,
>and rather pathetic. 

I don't think this undercut Dil's power.


--Mike



-- 
Mike Godwin,    |"I'm waiting for the one-man revolution
mnemonic@eff.org| The only one that's coming."
(617) 864-0665  |                           
EFF, Cambridge  |                   --Robert Frost
From: jnorman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John G Norman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Paradise Lost
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:38:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1993Jan26.233845.13444
Distribution: rec
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <AKIY.93Jan26185852@siva.cs.titech.ac.jp> akiy@siva.cs.titech.ac.jp (Akiyama Jun) writes:
>
>(I'm still trying to unlurk.  Bear with me.)
>
>Before me is sitting the book/epic/poem "Paradise Lost" by the
>often-said-to-be-more-than-intimidating John Milton.  I wish to read
>it.  (Why?  Masochism.  Either that, or spending a year in a foreign
>country can do wonders for one's literary exploits.)  Unfortunately,
>this here school where I'm currently studying doesn't offer many
>(perhaps "any") courses on John Milton.  Therefore, I'm thinking of
>taking the challenge of reading "Paradise Lost"... alone.
>
>I was wondering if anyone out there had any pointers/tips on reading
>this massive work.  I'm no English person and I haven't read the
>bible, which I'm sure are some disadvantages.  Should I stoop so low
>as to buying a Cliffs Notes?  Or are there any good companion books
>out there that explain the allusions and overall "meanings" to help me
>on my journey?
>
>Any words of advice, warning, or encouragement would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>--
>           akiy@cs.titech.ac.jp|Amiga/Mac/IBM/NeXT/NEC (ugh)/Unix-box User   
>UCLA undergrad, studying abroad|"False ideas may be refuted indeed by argument,
>  Tokyo Institute of Technology| but by true ideas alone are they expelled."
>    Natural Language Processing| ---John Henry Newman, _Apologia Pro Vita Sua_

Two oldies but goodies:

1.  C. S. Lewis, A PREFACE TO PARADISE LOST
    Explains the story with reference to the history of Christianity.
    Many distortions, overstatements, and insensitivities to Milton's
    peculariarly personal form of puritanism, but still extremely
    helpful.

2.  Christopher Ricks, MILTON'S GRAND STYLE
    Briefly explains why Milton's language is so beautiful, so weird,
    and so worth memorizing.

P.S. Read it aloud.
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From: chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe)
Subject: Re: Remedial Math (was Re: Marilyn (was: Paglia)
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:20:48 GMT

In article <C16KG9.FAy@panix.com> mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon) writes:

>Economics, also, makes ZERO sense without calculus -- and *with* calculus
>you can both see what sense it makes, and understand the rather hazy
>areas in which ideological rhetoric substitutes for the confirmation of
>the hypotheses necessary for economic conclusions to be valid.

To Illustrate: @!#$^H years ago, I took the economics course that Caltech
required for graduation.  The text was Samuelson's ancient classic, which
uses no calculus.   One day we spent a half hour floundering through his
efforts to explain concepts such as marginal rates of return without 
mathematics.  Exasperated, we finally asked the professor to sit down for a
few minutes while we translated the whole mess into calculus notation.  
This done, it was trivial.  No further questions.

				Chuck Smythe
From: pariah@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael Malone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Ok, so who IS Fury ?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:30:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
Keywords: fury
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19 #1

I read Jack the Bodiless only recently, (this _is_
Australia) and avoided all those earlier posts
be every last year on who Fury was.

So what was the conclusion ?  Anyone find solid
evidence of who they believed Fury to be ?

ps: When is Illusio Diamond Mask due for release ?
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From: helz@ecn.purdue.edu (Randall A Helzerman)
Subject: Re: Forcing the Spring 
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:19:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.190122.6751@cactus.org>, kate@cactus.org (Katherine M. Catmull) writes:
|> Clinton talked about "forcing the spring" twice in his inauguration
|> speech. I thought it was a very pretty phrase, and evocative
|> of What Americans Do, or try to do, for good or evil. Two questions:
|> 
|> 1. Am I the only one who found the phrase pretty and evocative?

Well, I find the phrase about as repulsive as I would find the phrase 
"forcing morality".

And I'm afraid that trying to use force to solve the problems we face is
just about as futile as trying to "force spring" to come in Feburary.
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Ambrose Bierce (and other curmudgeons)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 12:01:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  I was at a comic book store last weekend picking up the 
newest Zippy the Pinhead compilation (good stuff) and saw in the
Classics Comics rack A Bierce's THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY illo'ed
by Gahan Wilson. I intend to pick it up at lunch and will dut-
ifully report posthaste.
  I also have plowed through most of Florence King's ouvre, to
my slathering glee. Now I don't regard myself as a dyed-in-the
wool mossback knee-jerk reactionary at all, but I sense a lack
of humor amongst her detractors. She is indeed a hoot. She and
Camille P. (and maybe Molly Ivins) should probably collaborate
and kick the stuffing out of what usually passes for humor in the
world around us. 
  Perhaps Iron Joe Bob could moderate.......
(a modest proposal)
-- 
Ted....
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:05:28 CST
From: Cole Kendall <U48073@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Benson, beyond Lucia

Following recommendations of various rabbisti, I found the Benson
_Lucia_ series (six novels and one story in the omnibus _Make Way
For Lucia_).  I enjoyed the series very much, and being that kind
of guy, proceeded to look for other Benson fiction (I gather that
he is author of over 100 volumes).  So far I have found:

_Secret Lives_, which tells the story of Susan Leg, who makes
a brief appearance in the last Lucia novel (_The Worshipful Lucia_,
I think).  Highly recommended to any who enjoyed Lucia.

_Mrs. Ames_ An earlier work (ca 1912), which seems a little "tarter"
than the Lucia series.

An autobiographical volume, and one of the Holt stories.

Any further recommendations?  Is _Dodo_ worth seeking out.  Are his
brother's diaries of any interest?

Cole Kendall
From: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu (michael bruce mcdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Andrew Hall on criticism
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:09:34 GMT
Reply-To: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa

Andrew, thanks for a thoughtful response.  Is there a Zivek out there,
too?  The fellow I was referring to is Zizek, though line noise may
indeed have rendered that second 'z' 'v.'

thanks,
michael mcdonald
From: revpk@cellar.org (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: "Harlan Ellison's Watching" by Harlan Ellison
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:19:29 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

glink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (gary g link) writes:

> The essay 'Revealed at last! What killed the dinosaurs! And you don't
> look so terrific yourself.' is indeed in the anthology _Strange Wine_.
> I also recommend from  the same volume 'The New York Review of Bird.'
> 
> Ellison had great hopes for television, and I believe that his hopes
> took some time to die, but die they did.  For an utterly fascinating
> look at the underside of series television I recommend the book 'The
> Starcrossed' by Ben Bova I think, or by Ellison himself, I can't
> remember, and the copy I had has been lent out once too often.  An
> interesting account of the thrills of making a TV series.

	The basic "Starlost" bibliography is as follows:

	The essay "Somehow, I Don't Think We're in Kansas Anymore, Toto," is
an essay by Ellison talking about the monumental fuckups that happened
during the amking of the show. It can be found in "Stalking the Nightmare,"
although it _may_ be in "The Essential Ellison."

	"The Starcrossed" is a novel by Ben Bova, fictionalizing the
production of "The Starlost." It's very funny, and is also recommended.

	"Phoenix Without Ashes" is a novelization of Ellison's pilots
script. The novelization was done by Edward Bryant, and he and Ellison are
listed as coauthors. Not bad.

	"Faster Than Light" is an anthology that includes Ellison's actual
pilot script, titled "Phoenix Without Ashes." It also includes some
illustrations by Tim Kirk.


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Brian "Rev. P-K" Siano                                  revpk@cellar.org

"Do I BELIEVE in the Bible? Hell, man, I've even SEEN one!!"
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From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Query on Thoreau quote
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:23:46 GMT

> d-yang@cs.columbia.edu (David Yang) writes:
>My sister is looking for the source of the following Thoreau quote:
>"The youth gets together his materials to build a bridge to the moon, ...
>or perchance a palace or temple on earth, and at length the middle-
>aged man concludes to build a woodshed with them."
>
>By the way, she read through Walden and is pretty sure it's not there.

No.  Thanks to Bartlett's, I can tell you it's from his
Journal (published 1906), July 14, 1852.
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From: dstein@oak.math.ucla.edu (David Stein)
Subject: Re: New ideas on SF -or- Confessions of an pulp reader
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:27:47 GMT

Dani Zweig writes:
 
>You're fighting a battle you can't win.  This is the person who argued
>that "Neuromancer" isn't a counter-example because "Neuromancer" isn't
>science fiction.  Actually, 'argued' is the wrong word to use.  

  I know, but I decided to ignore him on that one.

>The relevant verb is 'redefined' which is what happens to both the object
>of the discussion and the claim being contested, every time someone
>tries to pin him down.  I suppose he finds it entertaining.

  SubG shut up when I challenged him to substantiate his claim.

  Which is fine with me.  I don't like to pick on kids.

 - Debil

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