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From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: Re: Las Vegas Revisited
Keywords: Ick, yuk, ptooie
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 02:57:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.014721.22606@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.095109.10266@walter.cray.com> cfg@cray.com (Cindy Glass) writes:
>>Yes - "RANDY - Randy" has struck again - complete with details
>>of his relationship with his SO - problems of her divorce and 
>>a GIF!
>>Again - parts of it were a form letter - 'what a guy'!
>Glad to know I am not the only one.

Is this the latest trend? Send a GIF of yourself along with your
proposition to be someone's new penpal? What's next? Use the nation's
scarce network resources to run dating agencies, complete with MPEG
movies? How about phone sex with CCITT H.261 compress video? Now that
way the ads in the magazine has to correspond to the girl/guy the ad
claims you'll be talking to! Oh yes, instant conference call chat lines
(we already have enough of those, but audio only) where participants
can show whatever they want to show the other party via H.261 video.
All it takes is a ISDN phone line. Look, boys and girls, phone up your
friendly telephone company and start demanding that ISDN line into your
home! We here in telecom wonderland didn't dream that one up just for
kicks. It does have real applications!

Michael MY Hui          myhui@bnr.ca           Ottawa Canada
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Flirting.
Date: 5 Sep 92 20:26:20 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

elliott@csa2.lbl.gov (JAMES ELLIOT) writes:

>So to everyone out there (especially the few women who actually read and write
>here) what am I missing?  Fill me in.  What do women like when flirting from
>men, what do they dislike?  What do they do when flirting with men (i.e. what
>should I be on the look out for)?  Thanks for the help!

From what I understand, it is practically impossible to distinguish
flirting from being-nice. In other words, just about any social behavior 
could be meant as flirting, or taken as flirting.

Furthermore, flirting does not mean anything more, necessarily, than "I am
interested in you at this moment in time."

Probably the best thing to do if someone is flirting with you is to flirt
back using a similar or complementary style or intensity. (Presuming you 
want the interaction to continue, that is.) 

--
Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined  
stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsonian
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:51:36 GMT

In article <4981@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
> 
>I sorta feel obliged to say *somthing* after all this disparaging talk about lurkers- hi,
>everybody!  Boy, it sure is bright out here- it was darker under my rock. :-)
>
>Anyway, I found this post interesting, because somebody pointed out to me recently that I've been
>doing exactly what's described above; interpreting interest as 'desperation' and pursuing
>only people weren't acting interested.  This, as you might guess, is not terribly effective,
>and yet, as irrational as it  seems, I'm doing it myself and I've observed many of my friends doing
>this too.
>
>Anybody else noticed this tendency in themselves, or in others?  I can'd decide if this happens
>because of Groucho Marx Syndrome ("I wouldn't want to date anyone desperate enough to have me")
>or because standoffish people are a challenge, or what.  Any ideas?  (And any rehabilitation
>suggestions for a sufferer)?
>
>					Diamond

One might have a tendency to "discount" evidence that someone likes
you if you don't believe that you are desireable.  I know from personal
experience.. women had to practically beat me over the head with a 
baseball bat for me to get the hint.  (or drag me to the bedroom... 
 hmm... come to think of it, *that* didn't work for her, either... I 
 played with the figurines on the dresser while she "changed" at 8 AM.. 
 oops  :-( :-( )

I am finally getting the hints, but my body lingo and attitude haven't
changed a whole lot... people (read women) find me fun to be with, but
not desireable for a relationship, or so I think.. I may be still in 
the old loop.

PS: I just got hit over the head with a baseball bat by a young lady
where I was visiting this summer.. she called yesterday... and was it
a *surprise*... She obviously likes me.. ($150.00 in fuel away).. and
I like her... but I worry that a 31 year old male shouldn't encourage
a 17 year old female...  aaaagggghhhhh!! [Sigh.. she is *so* nice and
adventurous and enthusiastic.. and all we did was sightsee the town
sigh... I wanna move... ] 

Anyways, back on topic..  the challenge theory works a bit for me, and
I have caught myself thinking the desperate line... but it is probably
more the general attitude and bearing which you have/show/exude which
limits your success in *all* relationships, not simply your romantic
ones.  This affects your work, your friendships etc... ('Course, you
may be more confident in some areas and not have the problem there..)

Oh well, don't worry, be happy... people flock to "fun" people... 

Aah.. Patrick's House of Tea and Advice... 
Patrick

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: "We're all normal here"
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:15:15 GMT

aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>>stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>> Welcome to soc.singles. We're all normal here. 
>>   Yeah.  Problem is, we want to be tangent.
>I'm sorry, Mark, I think that was a little too obtuse.

I disagree.  I think it is the right angle to be working on.

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: E.W. - Weddings....
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:02:18 GMT

Well, after having had a totally wild weekend, I've come to
the conclusion that Trygve is right!  Weddings are a great way
to meet new people and renew old acquaintances.
I was at a wedding in an old haunted castle in the middle of the
Irish countryside.  The castle has been refurbished without losing
any of its charm and it is now the height of luxury and the food was
to die for! 
There is something about a wedding that makes complete strangers
drop their normal reserve and talk to each other.  I made lots 
of new friends, including more single unattached males than I've
ever seen before in one place!  (Very unusual for Ireland where the
ratio of females to males is 3:1 )

We danced till dawn and I loved every minute of it!  I even got
a bottle of champagne from the bride and groom because they said 
they had never seen such a brilliant dancer before! (*laughter*)
(Mind you, they had been drinking a lot of champagne themselves
at this point so take this with a pinch of salt!:)

We all came back to Dublin and continued to party all weekend, the
bride and groom included as they said they didn't want to be left out 
of all the fun!  
My point is, if you are ever invited to such an occasion, don't 
decide not to go as you won't know anyone there or because you don;t
have a date to bring.  It is a great opportunity to meet new people!
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:43:01 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <kiran.715501437@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>You must meet loads of men during your daily activities.  You don't need

In article <5084@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>Not really.  There are only two guys in my year; one's married, and I've
>only seen the other twice.  Most of the professors are married, and I really
>wouldn't quite know how to make a pass at a professor anyway.  (It's not
>the age difference I'd have a problem with, but the rank difference).

(dynamic professor in class)
"... and what do men fear the most?  Not taxes.  Not women.  Not even taxes.
No.  Men fear thought above else!"

(you in quiet tone)
"(and women fear men who think)"

"What was that, Ms. Abrams??  You say that women fear men who think?"

"Yes." (engaging professor in flirty eye contact)

"Oh?  And what do women want from a man?" (all his thought, concentration, and
attention is now focused on you in an equally powerful gaze)

"A woman wants a man who feels." (slight smile emerges)

"Ah..." (smirk) "but a man who could feel AND think would be quite dangerous."

"That's what separates the men from the boys."

(The entire classroom filled with the silent hum of "oooooo")

"And the ability to handle such a man, Ms. Diamond, is what makes a girl a
woman."

(Silent pause as you're caught wordless.  Professor contiues on with lecture)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
From: wall@hel4.brl.mil (Jeff Wall)
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:36:14 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: U.S. Army Human Engineering Lab  Aberdeen, MD

In article <ewillims.715600678@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma
Williams) writes:
>In <14423@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>>that way.  I'd add one interesting note though.  As soon as you feel that
>>you can be a whole person without being in a relationship you might find
>>yourself in a relationship.  When you're desparately seeking a relationship
>>it becomes harder to find.
>	
>	Absolutely!  Yet another facet of the "the minute you've got an
>SO, you get more passes from other girls/guys than you've ever had before
>in your life" syndrome.  To coin a popular phrase, it's "strange but true".
>Personally, I think it is because you are glowing with happiness and 
>that warmth surrounding you attracts others too.  A friend of mine insists
>that it is because you are releasing more pheronomes (sp?) [sexual hormones
>that are smelt subliminally by others].  It could be a combination of both.

I agree with this also, when I had a SO in college I could have gone out with
any number of ladies at the same time (but I didn't).  Now that I'm out of
collge it's not quite so easy.  I moved from Ohio to Maryland when I graduated
and I didn't know a single person here.

Question:  Where do the people on the net who are out of school ( god I miss it
:-( ) go to meet MOTOS??  I tried dating someone I worked with but that didn't
work, so that is out of the question.

For all of you students on the net stay where you are I envy you :-).

Ain't this a crazy world.  I work my butt off to get out of college now I want
to go back.  Go figure.

Jeff Wall
wall@hel4.brl.mil
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:51:58 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

jmd@bear.com (Josh "Spidey!!!" Diamond) writes:

>I think that there may be a formula.  
[...]
>It can be summed up in two words:  LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY.

>I think a definition is in order: To love unconditionally is to
>contribute without expectation of any reward, or credit, or even love
>in return.  It is to love in the face of no evidence.

To me, "love unconditionally" also implies that you should love someone even 
if they are using you or harming you. I don't support this.

If you mean that one should not automatically expect love to be returned
for love, I agree. But I also think that if you put a lot of energy into 
loving someone and you are not getting what you want out of that
relationship, you should look elsewhere. (If you include yourself in the
list of people to love unconditionally, then this might happen naturally.)

--
Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined  
stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsonian
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: General topic to break the monotony
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:06:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep8.161856.26787@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
|In article <1992Sep8.152104.24662@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|>Da plane never cleared forty feet.
|>The skydivers needed to clear 500 ft to jump.
|
|Wrongola.  You need 500 ft for your shoot to deploy.  Don't jump
|unless you're at 750 ft please.

If they were only up 40 feet why did they need a parachute?

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: leg shaving
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:31:40 GMT

In article <14539@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.210732.10084@cbfsb.cb.att.com> weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt) writes:
> 
>First of all, I applaud you for your honesty regarding leg shaving and
>it's effect on bike racing.  Since I live in an area where, if I drive
>through town I'm in danger of receive severe spandex burns, I wonder 
>how of the people I see would be as honest about their reason for wearing
>lycra.

Because it's comfortable for bicycling?  Doesn't sound like there's
anything there to not be honest about..  the people who wear it
to be trendy are easy to spot, 'cause they've got too much fat and
they're slow.

>However, on to the subject at hand, and a personality trait that I
>think you've brought to light.
>
>I think this brings up a good point about dealing with fanaticism in general.
>The problem that I have about fanaticsm is that a persons life can become
>so focused about one activity that they preclude other activities that
>you might enjoy.  I prefer someone with more diverse interests.

[...]

One the other hand, sometimes you just have to do one thing enough
to find out how good you can get at it.  You can't be a dilettante
at everything you try, well, at least I couldn't.  I used to be
a hard-core bike racer.  Yep, I didn't get many dates while I
was serious about racing, and most of the (non-racer) women I
dated thought that I was much too obsessed with it.  But hey, it's my
life, and I'm not going to arrange my life just to match what
potential SO's think I should be doing.



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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: soc.singles #64637 - Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 20:51:30 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <9209050058.AA22485@regal.cisco.com> mlb@CISCO.COM (Marcia Bednarcyk) writes:
>In article <kiran.715453016@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>|> Do you think there's something wrong with people who feel that they
>|> (or their lives) are not complete without a (happy) relationship?
>
>Do you think there's something right with this?

Me, personally, no.  But, who gave us the right to pass judgment on what
other people want out of life?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

So much Astroglide.  So little time.
From: epg@nature.Berkeley.EDU (cocoa@orac.holonet.net)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: San Jose, continued........
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:42:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Candyland
NNTP-Posting-Host: nature.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep8.211012.14791@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>
>I am still coming to San Jose (Scotts Valley) on the 10th.  Although
>I need to service another customer while I'm out there.  So.......
>I need to be in Milpitas CA. Mon. Sept. 14th  - 16th.  One whole
>week.  Sat. and Sun. are still my days.  The others belong to AT&T.
>(Except for the evenings of course)
>
>Is there enough to do to keep a guy sane yet entertained??
>
>				Steve

If anyone happens to see Steve in the next few days, give me a ring and
we can try to show him how Californians paint the town red (and pink, and
purple, and blue, and green, ...)

just me,

little 'e'

e-mail: cocoa@orac.holonet.net, voice: 415-337-4940
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 03:55:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.022243.29268@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz (Rachel) writes:

> I've met guys who (I thought) there was that chemistry and so on, we got on
> brilliantly, etc. BUT they still weren't interested in anything more than
> friendship, if that.
>
> Why?

   They matched your template; you didn't match theirs.  One's template is
shaped by experiences that happen a long time *before* "first sight".

> I'm beginning to think there *is* no such thing as love at first sight.

   Would you *want* to love someone whom you knew nothing about?  Why?

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Subject: Power Smells to seduce your woman/women by
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:01:42 GMT

In article <ewillims.716211647@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>Apropos of body fragrances, what do you think of men's aftershaves/
>fragrances?  Is the consensus for or against?

Chocolate Moose:  The taste that brings out the hungry animal in your woman.
Oops.  I mean smell.

Cracklogne:  The Power Smell that hooks all the women near you and makes them
want to sell their bodies to you in return for another fix of that fine aroma.
>>> DISTRIBUTION IN THE UNITED STATES IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY THE DEA <<<

Andrewoma: The cologne with such a high vapor pressure that it triggers gale
force winds and tornadoes indoors and really provides a lift on women's dresses.
Guaranteed to ravage your woman and turn her into a Federal Disaster Area.

OPEC Deluxe: That rugged and fetid aroma of a post-Iraqi Kuwaiti oil
firefighter. Come on baby, light my fire.

Buffed Sweat: Male human perspiration collected from the world's most prolific
bodybuilders and sold at a premium price in a plastic Windex type dispenser.
Go ahead.  Pump it up.
Xref: sparky soc.singles:24965 alt.romance:11365 soc.women:16437 ny.general:304 nyc.general:112 ny.wanted:421
From: yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,soc.women,ny.general,nyc.general,ny.wanted
Subject: Re: Where to go on a date
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn 1.16c (6/22/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:42:05 GMT
Organization: Blue Knight Productions

In article <1992Sep4.164047.21015@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) writes:
>Help! 
>
>Could anyone please suggest some nice places to go on a date in New York city?
>
>Manhattan, Bklyn, Queens... Ignoring the usual touristy things, St. d'liberty,
>Ellis Isl., I would like some ideas to help me make a reasonable impression.
>
>I would appreciate any help that you can offer, and e-mail would be great.

	If you can afford it a helicopter flight with just the 2 of you
around the city and a restaurant in the village or someplace usually works
great!!!

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From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:39:23 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA

In article <1992Sep7.021917.29196@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>It's a worry.  I don't mind being taller than a guy, but I hate to feel
>intimidating, which tends to happen.

Your comment reminded me of two tall women who passed through my life, and
how I reacted to them.

The first was ex-model turned MBA, about 6' tall, and right out of Playboy.
She dressed in expensive and fashionable clothes, and of all the feelings I
had for her, intimidated wasn't one of them. I am, quite frankly, simply
awed by beautiful women - call it a genetic flaw if it bothers you - and the
taller they are, the more awed I become.

The second was a tall, but not particularly attractive, lass of about 5'10
or 5'11 - at the time I met her, I weighed 170 pounds (I am 6'3"), and I
would guess she weighed in at about 180. She was not overweight, just BIG.
I noted one day that I always wanted to back away from her when she got
close, and had to concede that I was indeed intimidated.

Why one would strike me that way, and one would not, I cannot say; I suspect
that there may be some primoral threat to the male personna in all of this,
unless I'm just a wimp. I liked her, and thought of her as a friend, but I
got _very_ uncomfortable when she stood directly in front of me to chat -
territorial imperative, perhaps?

>Rachel
>(6' btw)

Did you often bump your head on low doorframes when you were young? <I still
have scars :-)>

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Ring for sale (The ballad of a Guy & Girl)
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:45:11 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep12.165433.23153@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
|
|Brownard is alive and well in Idaho. He fell in love by email so is not
|welding his bat on women anymore. However HP is giving him trouble so I
|think it hasn't been completely retired. (HP apparently recomended not
|rehiring him based on their reading of some of his email communications
|while he was in their employ). Big brother is out there still apparently. 

In my 13 years at HP I never heard of them reading anyones email. Perhaps
someone else (Some of us might have a pretty idea who) brought his email
to the attention to management.
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