HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: The language on SCP
Date: 12 Jan 1993 07:23:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu
Keywords: Hang loose on the Caboose !

In article <dbose.726809740@sirocco.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
>
>>Rukhsana, or Rukhsana Merchant, or Ms. Merchant is fine.  I do not
>>need a *dear* attached to it.  However, this is a public forum and
>>the point of view is addressed not to a particular person, but
>>to the general person so therefore no address is needed, in my opinion.
>>In other words, the person who is stating a viewpoint does not need
>>to be specified specifically, because he is stating either his viewpoint
>>or a viewpoint, so just address the viewpoint.  However, I leave it
>>up to your disgression whatever method you choose to apply.  
>
>>But for me, I would ask that *I* not be addressed as *Dear*.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Shams Hasan.
>
>>Ms. Merchant
>
>
>	HI HI SHAMS HASAN ,
>
>		CHHEE-CHHEE ! KUCH SHARAM KAR LE !
>		( Be ashamed of yourself )
>
>		YOU PERVERTED PAKISTANI !
>
>		NO WONDER PAKISTAN IS A BHANGI/CHAMAAR STATE .
>
>					
>					DEEPAK
>

Dear DeePakistani Bose,

Come, come. I was expecting at least originality from Sonar Bengla Elite.

Oh, by the way, you forgot to ask Bhangi #4.........I understand, lovers
quarrel. It happens with my girlfriends now and then too.

You guys are now a full quartet, did you know ? 
Definite possibilities for added fun in spring break...!!! Notty, notty
boys....!
 
Many many bose, may you all live together happily for a long time, and adopt 
many kids.


Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Gen Asif Nawaz dies of heart attack?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:25:27 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

Comment from a rumor monger:

Gen Nawz "had to die" because he did not support BB's long march
and impose ML.


Actual UPI News:
Subject: Pakistan army chief dies of heart attack
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 9:44:19 PST

        ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI) -- Pakistan's army chief, Gen. Asif Nawaz,
died of a heart attack Friday, prompting intense high-level consultation
over who should fill one of the most powerful posts in this South Asian
country.
        The official Associated Press of Pakistan said Nawaz suffered a heart
attack at his home and was rushed to a hospital where he died.
        APP gave no further information, but official sources said President
Ghulam Ishaq Khan, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and senior army generals
began meeting to decide on a successor soon after his death.
        Nawaz, along with the president and premier, formed the key ruling
troika in politically volatile Pakistan, which has been under direct
military rule for 25 of the 45 years it has been independent from
Britain.
        The last army ruler was Gen. Zia ul-Haq, whose death in a plane crash
in August 1988 paved the way for Benazir Bhutto's civilian government.
Two years later, Khan fired Bhutto for alleged corruption and
mismanagement in a constitutional coup supported by the army.
        As army chief, Nawaz oversaw a crackdown of widespread banditry in
the southern province of Sindh.





Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: Rapes in Bosnia-Bangladesh-Burma-India
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:30:25 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <C0pw9t.25M@news.udel.edu> khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes:

....

>The guy: (thinks for a while and then smiles) "Of course not; the burglar
>is a Pakistani too, how he is going to think about escaping if I couldn't
>of it myself?"
>
>The officer: "Smart, really smart, how funny that I couln't figure out such
>an easy thing."
>

Good one :) :)

Someone told me the following claiming that this really happenned. Though
I wasn't really surprised, it is pretty funny.

Some burglars came to a house in Karachi. The owner didn't have any real
weapons but one of his kids had a toy AK-47. This guy took that out and
challenged the intruders who got scared and ran away. 

After about half an hour, police raided his house claiming they received a tip
about an illegal AK-47 in the house. This guy told the police about the whole
story and showed the toy kalashnikov. The police left disappointed.

After another half hour, the dacoits came back. He took out the gun again
as before, but this time they said, "Who do you think you're kidding??! 
We know that's a toy." :) :)

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Elite..... My Foot!
Date: 10 Jan 1993 13:24:48 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <8457@news.duke.edu> shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.014623.29073@leland.Stanford.EDU> arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes:
>
>I think the overall tone of Islamic theology is such that it looks down
>on having fun.  In a sense, having fun seems to be against Islam not

So, you condone those spoiled brats of the elites sporting the latest
models of cars on Government expense, and sucking the national treasury
dry?

According to Islam, having fun is NOT a sin. However, if your neighbor has
gone hungry to bed, and you are found wasting your money on frivolities,
then indeed such wastage of time and money is held accountable.

In Islam, education, intelligence  and our life are a trust. If we waste
them and do not use them to help people, then this files a case of 
corruption of the trust  against us.
From: hwhfac@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: GHALIB'S GHAZAL.
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:25:21 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR



LAAZIM THA KE DEKHNA MERA RAASTA KOI DIN AUR,

TANHA GAYE KYON ? AB RAHO TANHA KOI DIN AUR.


JAATE HUVE KAHTE HO KHAYAMAT KO MILENGE,

KYA KHOOB! KHAYAMAT KA HAI GOYA KOI DIN AUR.


NADDAN HO JO KAHTE HO KE KYON ZINDA HAI GHALIB,

KHISMAT MEIN HAI MARNE KI TAMANNA KOI DIN AUR.

WAHEED.


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From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Let us stop this crap
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:12:58 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines



 This is my sincere advice to deb to stop this war(crap) here. 
  I can extend this war to its extreme but unfortuntely my sisters in 
islam read these newsgroups and as such I have to take care of them.

I once again inform you to stop this crap . It will be in the benefit for
both of us.


 P.S.  Personally I dont want to involve in this crap but unfortunately 
       sometimes I have to do that.








Many of 
my sisters in islam read these newsgroups and the language that he has used
here is not fit for the civilized world he should certainly 
aware of the fact. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: waheed@acuson.com (Aamir Waheed)
Subject: information regarding a friend
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:50:12 GMT

I am looking for a friend of mine whom I have lost contact 
for almost two and a half years.  His name is Omar Halim and he
was in Houston, Texas last time I spoke to him.  Any information
about him would be highly appreciated.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: jinnah
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:02:50 GMT

"faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com> writes:

> an4329@anon.penet.fi wrote childlishly:
> 
> An> On 25th Dec. two persons were born :

> An> 1) Jesus Christ : Son Of God
> An> 2) Jinnah       : Son Of a Bitch .

>Two great men and an anonymous chicken who won't sign his own
>name... 

>What is the purpose of such intelligent postings?  NOTHING!  Totally
>useless crap...




	 ARE FARAZ BHAI ,

		KYON RANG ME BHANG DALTE HO .

		ITNI ACHCHI CHEEZ BHALAA AAJ TAK KISEE NE LIKKHI HAI ?

		WAW BHAI WAH anon4329 , TUHARAA BHI JAWAAB  NAHIN ..




>Faraz Rabbani

>... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: haque@.mcc.com (Kashif Haque)
Subject: Poetry
Originator: haque@sundown.mcc.com
Organization: MCC, Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:30:54 GMT

I wanted to share this with you all. I hope you will
understand it and like it.  If somebody knows this
please correct it as i am wrinting it from memory.


----------------------------------------------------
Mere Mehboob Kahin Aur Mila Kar Mujh Say
----------------------------------------------------
Taj tere liye ek mazhare ulfat he sahe
tuj ko is waadiye rangeen sey akheedat he sahey
mere mehboob kahin aur mila kar mujh say

bazm-e-shahi mein ghareebon ka guzr, kiya maaaney
subth jis raah pey hoon sitwate shaheen key nishaan
uss pay ulfat bharee roohon ka safr, kiya maaaney

mere mehboob pas-e-parda-e-tasheer-e-wafa
too nain sitwat k nishanoon ko to deekha hoota
murda shahhon k maqabir sey bahalnay wali
upnay taareek makaanoon ko to deekah hoota

unginath logon nain dunya mein muhabbat key hai
kon kehta hey k sadiq na they un k jazbay
magar un kay liye tasheer ka saaman na thaa
kiyon k wo log bhi apni he tarah muflis thay

mere mehboob unhein bhi to muhabbat ho gi
jin key sannaee nay bakshi hai isse shakle jameel
un k piyaroon k maqabir rahe be naam o namood
aaj tak un pe jalaee na kisi nay qandeel

ye imaaraaat-o-muqabir, ye faseelain, ye hisaar
mutle-qul-hukm shahenshahoon key uzmat k sutoon
seena-e-dahr k naasoor hein, kuhna naasoor
jazb hai jin mein mere aur tere aajdad ka khoon

ye chamman zaar ye jamna ka kinara ye mahal
ye munaqqash daro deewar, ye mehraab, ye taaq
ik shahenshah nay daulat kaa sahara lay kar
hum gharrebon ke muhabbat ka uraya hai mazaq

mere mehboob kahin aur mila kar mujh sey
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


KJH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: vagarwal@dis9002.shearson.com (Virendra Agarwal)
Subject: Re: Moslems@
Reply-To: vagarwal@tardis.shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers
	<C0CB0B.DGB@sunfish.usd.edu> <C0ED47.7or@uceng.uc.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:12:20 GMT

   >>>
>>   That is what I am saying.  The West does not want India to build
				    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>   Nuclear weapons.  I think Mustafa was saying that only Muslim
>>   countries are not allowed to build nuclear weapons.

>>   Manoj

-----------

	Is every nation on earth supposed to appease the so called "WEST". Mind you
	earth is moving constantly so EAST or WEST keep changing. Why every nation 
	is supposed to abide by "NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY" while the so called "WEST"
	and their BUDDY countries can keep proliferating ? Are people (Blonde eyes and
 	Blue hairs ONLY, of course) born in so called
	"WEST" born more RESPONSIBLE than anyone born anywhere else ?



--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Virendra Agarwal
vagarwal@shearson.com
212-464-2151
Lehman Brothers
388 Greenwich st.(9th Flr.)
NewYork, NY 10013
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Passport Renewal
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:17:54 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <g+02cq=@rpi.edu> asafi@rdrc.rpi.edu (Ahmad Safi) writes:
>Inquiry.  This is probably to screen out the illegal passports held by
>the Afghans who came to Pakistan after 1980. As proofs the testimonials
>and property transaction documents are acceptable. In my case I sent
>them my original matriculation certificate (returned safely!) year
>marked 1978.

Very dangerous thing to do. Sending the original matric certificate.
I sent them the photostat copies of matric and inter certificate.
I got my passport back in about a week (+ 4 or 5 extra days for the
mail being registered both ways).

Please, do not forget to register your mail (Especially, where we
are dealing with our brother Pakistanis! :) :) 

You can even get the return post registered through the post office.
They will complete all registry related info. and you can include
it in the stuff sent to Counsullate.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:32:36 CST
From: <U17868@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: PAK TV SERIALS

 Below is a list of TV serials on PTV or NTM. I just thought we should have som
e entertainment news as well on this group. The news of Pakitan winning the te
st match in New Zealand is not posted here.(I know that it was in rec.sport.cri
cket, but not every Pakistani netter reads that group). Anyone who wants to
discuss antything about these plays or about other plays is most welcomed.
Lately, I have been watching three plays.
1. Parosi (neighbour). starring Marina Khan, Khalida Riyasat, Ali Ijaz and Salm
an Sheikh (brother of Javed Sheikh). This is written by Hasina Moin. As usual,i
n her plays, the story revolves arounf women ( main story is around Khalida Riy
asat who is divorced and have a four year boy). The humor is not very good as c
ompared to Tanhanyian or AnKahi.

2. Din (Day) This is written by Amjad Islam Amjad. It is also typical Amjad Isl
am Amjad play (waderas, jagirdars etc.). The cast include Qavi, Afzal Ahmed, Wa
sim Abbas, Bindia etc. Worth watching.

3. Aanch. I don't remember who wrote this one, but the story is the best (also
the production). Cast includes Shafi Mohammed, Mahmood Ali. Shafi Mohd. is marr
ied but her first wife leaves him. He has three kids. He married again to give
his children the love of mother. But, his second marriage is also in trouble. V
ery nicely written and acted by everyone.

 Sikander Waheed
u17868@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt)
Subject: Re: Passport Renewal
Organization: Motorola RISC Software, Austin, TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:02:48 GMT

In article <g+02cq=@rpi.edu> asafi@rdrc.rpi.edu (Ahmad Safi) writes:
>
>Actually I just had my passport renewed last week. It took me only a
>week to have it renewed from the Consulate at NY. The catch is that if
>
>Ahmad Safi
>
>


Ahmad: 

the guy posting earlier might be talking about getting a *new* 
passport as opposed to *renewing* a passport.  One can renew 
in five years but one has to get a brand new one every ten.  I 
think the process of getting a brand new one is probably a 
little more traumatic than a simple renewal BUT I may be wrong.

Any folks who know the "real story" ?


fmb

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Standard High-Tech Disclaimer: NOTHING  in the above article has the slightest 
relationship to reality. If any reality correspondences are found, please 
notify me IMMEDIATELY. Any threats, abuse or stupidity of any kind is purely 
UNintentional. These are MY Opinions NOT my employer's.
From: cscc13@homer.cc.uh.edu (Naveed Iqbal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Passport renewel
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:29:50 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: homer.cc.uh.edu



I called the Pakistan Consulate in NY to get information on a passport renewel.
They tell me that it takes a month to get a new passport. Old passports cannot  
be renewed. According to the new rules, they send the paperwork to Pakistan for
police records etc. and it takes a month. 

Does anyone know a fastger way to get a passport as the gentlemen I talk to 
was extremely rude and did not let me say a word. Instead, he was giving me
crap about how things work over there. He said that I should listen to him
or else he would hangup. 

I am wondering, if some has an emergency and has to leave th country and  
his/her's passport is expired, won't they help the person to leave ASAP.
Afterall that's what they get paid for and live a fancy life in Ny city in
govt. of Pakistan expense. I wish there was something that could be done
to fix those jerks.


Naveed Iqbal
NIqbal@uh.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mujtaba@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mujtaba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: TEST
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:46:03 GMT
Reply-To: mujtaba@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mujtaba)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: mujtaba@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu

This is just a test. Please completely ignore it.
From: rashid@bcarh2c9.bnr.ca (Rashid Ali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Looking for Gulistan School Class Mates
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:10:46 GMT
Reply-To: rashid@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

I am looking for friends who did their Matric from Gulistan Shah Abdul Latif
Bhatti School in the year 1969/1970. The school is located in Karachi, Pakistan.

I remember few names like, Syed Arif, Arif Sikander, Rashid Bukhari, Bashir, 
Naveed, Mirza, Shaheen, and so on. If any one know them or if they are reading
this please post your phone number and your where abouts.

My name is Rashid Ali, and I am with Bell-Northern Research in Ottawa, Ontario,
Canada. My phone number is (613)763-8003. 
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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: NY Times Letter to Editor 12/31/92 About 1947, Ayodhya, etc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:46:03 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1993Jan5.202317.27377@tandem.com> rajesh@Tandem.com (Rajesh Srivastava) writes:
>
>	Who is responsible for creating a party called BJP? Thanks for support
>	from Pakistan 



:)


There must be some flaw in India that Pakistan is not responsible
for, but I cannot think of any :(

j n a
From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Reply to Mr.Farooq M.Butt (Re: Request to Moron Incarnate...)
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:49:44 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1993Jan7.045720.9992@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt) writes:
> In article <1993Jan6.122254.46153@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>
> ... insult deleted ... 
>>
>>   In response to the objections to many netters who want us to stop
>>   posting on SCI, SCP (ask your "sister in Islam" Ms.Rukshana Merchant),
>>   I suggest that we take this to alt.flame. We certainly *do not* want
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ... rest of message deleted ... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Oh thank you God!  My prayers may be answered! :-) 
> 
> fmb
> 
> -- 
> Standard High-Tech Disclaimer: NOTHING  in the above article has the slightest 
> relationship to reality. If any reality correspondences are found, please 
> notify me IMMEDIATELY. Any threats, abuse or stupidity of any kind is purely 
> UNintentional. These are MY Opinions NOT my employer's.



   I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT I (DEB CHATTERJEE) AM *N-O-T* AN UNFAIR PERSON.

      - regards,
       deb chatterjee
     (a good samaritan)
     
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From: othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4))
Subject: Re: keith moore to speak in cincinnati
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:28:10 GMT

Zafar T Minhas (minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu) wrote:
: salam alaikum brothers and sisters,
: 
: msa of university of cincinnati would like to announce that it will be hosting
: a lecture by the famed kieth moore of the university of toronto. he will of
Why is he so famous? I never heard of him.
: course be discussing the quranic verses regarding the development of the
From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: PakistaNews Text Files Until GIF Color Restarts Soon - #0110
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:51:41 GMT
Organization: IMRAN: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks

ALL STEPS TO END UNEMPLOYMENT [within the family?]

Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif has said that if Pakistan had traversed 
the development stages steadily during the past 45 years, it would have emerged
as an advanced country like South Korea and Japan by now.

INDIA INTERFERING IN SINDH [what else is new?]

The Chairman of National PeopleUs Party and former Prime Minister Mr. Ghulam 
Mustafa Jatoi, has disclosed that India was openly interfering in the affairs 
of Sindh province and escalating terrorism there due to weak foreign policy of 
the government.  He contended that if the government had opted a bold stand on 
Babar Masjid nobody in India would have dared demolish the mosque.

MUMTAZ FOR UNITY AMONG PEOPLE [who cause disunity in the nation]

Chairman Sindh National Front.  Mr. Mumtaz Ali Bhutto has expressed opinion tht
even if obstacles are created, the determination and sincerity of the true 
nationalists to march together, will prevail.

IF VOTED TO POWER NDA TO MAKE POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE [with new bank accounts]

National Democratic Alliance, after coming into power, will make all 
politicians accountable for their misdeeds or deeds, harmful to country's 
integrity, solidarity and economy and all responsible politicians, bureaucrats,
planners and policy-mak-ers will be tried in open courts.

STOCKS: LOSERS LEAD GAINERS [is that why the worst people become leaders?]

In the face of a host of uncertain factors, equities on week opening session of
the Karachi Stock Exchange managed to offer mild resistance but on balance 
capping past five days of reactionary trend in reduced activity and the tone 
cautious.

INTEREST TO BE TAKEN IN ALL ISSUES [except in bank accounts ;-)  ]

The Secretary-General of Foreign Affairs Mr. Akram Zaki, has said that 
Pakistan, as a member of the Security Council and a peace loving country, would
take interest in all the issues of the world.

---

Imran Anwar
imran@cunixa.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan