HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tdietz@tcedge.mi.org (Tom Dietz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: What is the best BBS?
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:35:16 GMT
Organization: EXCELSIOR! Tech Support BBS (313) 77-AMIGA
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.95c

In an article, hribnak@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Jim Hribnak) writes:

>
>Just like how you charged $50 for a C-UseNet program, and never send out
>Updates, or even updated the program much.. no wonder people dont send in
>shareware fees when people do what you have done in the past!
>

>I was once a C-Usenet supporter, and now because of you I RARELY send in
>$$$
>for programs unless they are outstanding!
>

>Nuff Said

Well, thats a strange statement to make.  You expect the author of C-UseNet to 
constantly, (sometimes weekly now) update his program because Ken Pletzer 
really doesnt know how to write a good door interface (or really doesnt care). 
I mean come on.  Dont go blaming other people.   The author of C-UseNet doesnt 
even run CNet anymore.  I mean face up to facts.  Cnet isnt a good BBS for 
standard 'C' door programs.  You may think it is now that 2.0 comes out.  But 
he will eventually change things rendering it incompatible.  Put blame where 
it belongs.  I understand your frustration.  But if Ken had any brains, 
C-UseNet should have worked for every version out.  I honestly think he really 
doesnt care anymore.  He's made his money.  The discussion before was how CNet 
STOLE code from another program.  Anyone with pre-2.0 release can see the 
Copyright notice for gods sake.  Geesh.  I think there should be some legal 
action taken.  Just another nail in the coffin for Cnet, the guy has stolen so 
many things.  No wonder theres not much support on the net.

Thats like calling a company "unethical" because the program they wrote for 
1.2 doesnt work on today's machines.  If thats the way it goes, I got a lot of 
people on the 64 that are pissed at me.

Oh, and by the way, the author of C-UseNet would have sent out updates of his 
1.99 version if he had updated to 2.0, but he did not want to shell out more 
money for Cnet 2.0.  You still think its his fault eh?

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|     Sycom Design Software              ---------- --- --- --- -----     |
| P.O. Box 452  St Clair Shores              MULTI-LINE SUPPORT           |
|        MI, 48080 USA                (313) 77-AMIGA   Supra V.32bis      |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jdb8042@blkbox (John D. Baker)
Subject: SupraModem 2400 Plus problem
Organization: The Black Box BBS (713) 480-2686 V32/V42bis/HST
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:36:05 GMT
Summary: I get junk after prolonged connection with v.42bis
Keywords: v.42bis garbage

Since Supra products are so prevalent among the Amiga crowd (and I'm
part of it), I figured I ask this question here.

I recently purchased a SupraModem 2400 Plus.  It works generally well
except for one annoying indeosycracy concerning v.42bis protocol.

When a v.42bis connection (REL-LAPM-COMP) has been established, it
works OK for anywhere from 15 minutes to 2 hours and then I start
getting random character drop-outs and then the missing characters
are re-inserted later in the data stream.  The connection breaks
shortly after this.

The problem goes away if I turn off v.42bis compression (only v.42 
error correction) or force the modem to connect with MNP protocols
(MNP 5 included).

Has anyone experience something similar?  should I suspect my modem,
the host modem I've connected to or both?  I really only have limited
data on this problem as there are only 2 remote systems I've connected
with that have v.42bis modems and one is long distance so I haven't been
connected to it long enough to observe the above described behavior on
it.

Thanks.


John D. Baker  ->An Apple CardZ180 Z-System nut//
Internet:  jdb8042@blkbox.com            jdbaker@taronga.com
UUCP:      nuchat!blkbox!jdb8042         ...!taronga!jdbaker
BBSs:  JOHN BAKER on Z-Node #45 [(713) 937-8886],
The Vector Board [(716) 544-1863], PIC of the Mid-Town [(713) 527-8939]
Karnage: "I am certainly very happy for you, but--WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!"

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: brenner@crab.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Martin Brenner)
Subject: Re: multiuser environment (via modem)
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:28:34 GMT

coup@crs.cl.msu.edu (Chris Klaus) writes:


>Hello. I am looking for source code or information pertaining to a multi-
>player or user environment inwhich there is a graphical representation.

>    I'd like to see something like a MUD but based on ASCII characters
>moving around on the client.  I'd like to see how the src code deals with
>handling each person's input and updating the information on each person's 
>client.

Maybe you should look at LPmud and its graphical extension, bsxmud.

LPmud is available for the Amiga, too, from alcazar.cd.chalmers.se.
On the Amiga, a unix library from Erik van Roode is used to emulate
the unix socket routines with the Amiga message system. 

LPmud is purely text-based. A server, the 'gamedriver' accepts input
from clients (on Unix this can be telnet), parses this input by 
calling LPC (a C-like interpreted language) and returns the
output (room and action descriptions) to the clients. 

On the Amiga clients simply open a console window and connect to
the server. I have hacked a client which opens the serial.device 
instead and have successfully ran it from the uucp getty.

Bsxmud is an extension by Bram Stolk (sp?) which adds vector graphics
which means the gamedriver can send out control sequences which an
intelligent client can then interpret and draw. Likewise, the client
accepts cursor keys and sends corresponding command strings like
'north' to the server. An Amiga client which is sort of an extended
vt100 terminal program exists, as do a X Windows client. Bsx is also
available from alcazar.

Maybe this could be a starting point for you. Because most of the
parsing of commands happens in the LPC objects it is very flexible.

Bye the way, I think that LPmud provides a somewhat nice multiuser
unix-like system, it includes a line editor and file handling commands
like ls and mkdir for 'wizards', players who can build new things by
using LPC.

Hope that helps,
-Martin
--
Martin Brenner, Institut f. Theoretische Astrophysik, Universitaet Tuebingen
brenner@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de    <Deepthought the Nightfall Sourcerer>
From: vidiot.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,from.socal.com
Subject: Re: C-NET
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:25:57 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

agnius@guild.socal.com (Agnius Gris) writes:

> As a poor distribution of C-Net concerned, that is true. I have mailed in my 
> 
> --- Via UCI v1.05 (C-Net Amiga)
> 

I received my 2.0 upgrade when promised (I pre-paid, so it wasn't 
immediate, but I was told this--as I would bet you were too--in the flyer 
from Ken).  I have had excellent support from Ken, his listening to user 
suggestions and implementing them is NOT stealing despite certain 
opinions, this is support!  If he stole routines, let him worry about it. 
 Let the authors take it up with him!  I think the mudslinging campaign 
started by the authors of Excelsior is more of a reason NOT to buy 
Excelsior than Kens alleged stealing is not to buy C-Net!

New options and features are constantly appearing in C-net.  If Ken stole 
code, I can't do much about it, but it looks to me like other BBS systems 
are going to be playing catch-up pretty soon!  C-Net is expanding more 
than ever.  I am, obviously, a very satisfied customer...

Eric
From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Problem installing VLT on floppy
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:10:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

If it says you don't have ARexx on your system, maybe it is right. You
should run the program "rexxmast" from your startup sequence, user-startup
or drag it into the WBStartup drawer. If you are running AmigaDOS 1.3,
you have to buy ARexx if you don't already have it.

I don't know what rexxapp.library is maybe you meant rexxarplib.library?

         Willy.
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From: tsarna@endicor.com (Ty Sarna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Networking. (was: LET'S RESCUE THE AMIGA!!...(in misc))
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:01:06 GMT
Organization: Endicor Technoliges, Inc.

In article <34252@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking) writes:
> Any new networking stuff that we release will be SANA-II. The original
> AS225 inet.library knew about the A2065, A2060 and Ameristar Ethernet
> boards. It was, indeed, hardcoded.  SANA-II bypasses such problems.

Will the current SANA C= Ethernet driver still support the Ameristar
boards? I assume the answer is yes, since they're supposed to be the
same hardware.

> >And a reasonable update price for current AS225 owners (please)?
> 
> We'll try to work something out.

Yes, please try to convice them not to pull the same thing they did with
AMIX 2.0->2.1! Will current owners be notified of the upgrade when it
becomes availible?

>  "Pennsylvania - Land of (really) Bad Drivers."   Uva uvam vivendo varia fit 

Never been to Massachusetts, huh? :-)

--
Ty Sarna
Endicor Technologies, Inc.
tsarna@endicor.com				#include <stddisclaimer.h>
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,from.socal.com
Subject: Re: Supra 14.4 & DLG
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:14:11 GMT
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.

In article <1992Aug17.215832.1704@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrubino@csws2.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino) writes:

>Perhaps it would make sense to post that file here.  If not could you please
>send it to me via email?  The more info we have the better off we all are.

Hi, Mike.  Believe me, if I could I would.  However, the data security here
is pretty tight so that I can't transfer the file over (yet).  However, I
have seen it posted by some other kind soul before.  Perhaps they'll follow
up on this.  If not, I'll print the thing out tonight and transcribe the bare
essentials over (NRam, TrapDoor, etc).

-- 

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NCR -- Torrey Pines Development Center | Jeffrey.Grimmett@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
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From: malx0600@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Stephen Scheck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Are (un)compress and tar available for Amiga?
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:53:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucselx.1992Aug20.205321.5686
Organization: San Diego State University
Originator: malx0600@steer

The subject says it all. I need a program to uncompress unix .Z suffix Lempel
Ziv files, as well as an Amiga version of tar. Are these available? If so, at
what ftp site(s)?

Thanks, Steve

malx0600@steer.sdsu.edu
From: richardc@vogue.adsp.sub.org (Richard Carde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: FAX SOFTWARE for ZyXEL modems
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:36:16 GMT
Organization: Amiga Developer (GPSoftware ACM093)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug19.075917.18788@muddcs.claremont.edu> aleneis@jarthur.claremont.edu (Tony Leneis) writes:
 
> I am about to get a ZyXEL U-1496S FAXmodem.  Does anyone know of a software
> package can send and receive FAXes with this modem?  Also, is anyone aware
> of a DVItoFAX program?  (I tend to write a good deal of \TeX documents using
> Georg's wonderful PasTeX 1.3...)  Thanks.

GPFax works great with the ZyXEL modems.  GPFax can be purchased direct
from us (GPSoftware).  Supra should be supplying soon also.

Cost: AUS$159 + AUS$45.00 for courier OR AUS$10.00 post.

GPSoftware
21 Aloomba Road
ASHGROVE  QLD  4060
Australia

Ph: +61 7 366 1402

If 'Georg's wonderful PasTeX 1.3' can print to a PREFERENCES printer, you
can easily 'print' your faxes with GPFax's printer driver and get VERY
good quality images. (Works GREAT with PageStream and other DTP programs).
 
> Tony Leneis
> aleneis@jarthur.claremont.edu

-- 
  Richard Carde     Developer for GPSoftware     Ph: +61 7 300 6864
    EMAIL: vogue.adsp.sub.org!richardc@cbmehq.commodore.com
           cbmaus!cbmozq!vogue!richardc@cbmvax.commodore.com
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From: gt4476a@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael David Alberghini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: BFJ Enterprises
Keywords: BFJ
Date: 22 Aug 92 07:45:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


     This is for all people who have been having trouble contacting
BFJ Enterprises in the last few days.  On Friday, August 21, I went 
to their retail outlet.  The store was closed and locked with a sign
on it saying "Closed for 2 weeks for remodeling".  There were also
several notes from a shipper who had tried to deliver merchandise.
Apparently no one has been there in the last few days.  I will check
again in a week or two and post if they are still unable to be contacted.


-- 
Mike Alberghini,       Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, Ga, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt4476a
Internet: gt4476a@prism.gatech.edu
             --All right!  No more mister nice pope!-- Cerebus--
From: rickie@trickie.UUCP (Richard Nash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  SLIP?NOS?POP3? Help please!
Date: 15 Aug 92 07:24:12 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <Steve.007y@donald.demon.co.uk> Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.103901.14447@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> blyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>> 
>> Now, I don't reallu undertand any of this stuff, and the school is - 
>> how should we say, less than sympathetic - to Amiga users. They say we
>> can't do it. Please tell me I can. Can I use AmigaNOS for SLIP?
>> 
>
>Yep. AmigaNOS certainly can be used over slip. Thats how I'm using it. Over
>a dial-up slip connection.
>
--
Could someone describe the necessary configuration in order to run
AmigaNOS as a slip connection? 
 - In particular, what version are you using?
 - How are the options configured in NOS?
  
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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 UUCP:                     trickie!rickie@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: Les_Jenkins@lppl.mi.org (Les Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Distribution: world
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:06:01 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

In a message dated Thu 20 Aug 92  2:49, gbartoli@guild.socal.com (Guy
Bartoli) wrote:

 GB>         Whoa there! ... You've got my full, undivided attention now --
 GB> as a CNet owner myself. I'm interested in your comments about CNet
being
 GB> a "rip off", but remain, at best, unconvinced. 

Pull out Newzap and scan the ASCII dumps yourself. From what I have heard
from people many of the copyrights to the used code are often still in
there. 

Personally I don't know how true these rumors are, but I have heard them
repeated about Ken for years from waaaay back when he was writing it on the
C-64. And having known him indirectly since about that same time I wouldn't
be surprised if there was truth in what was said.



 -- AEd V1.36f/EvaA

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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From: bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Networking.
Date: 15 Aug 92 11:34:50 GMT
Reply-To: bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Aug14.230106.2067@endicor.com> tsarna@endicor.com (Ty Sarna) writes:
>In article <34252@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking) writes:
>> Any new networking stuff that we release will be SANA-II. The original
>> AS225 inet.library knew about the A2065, A2060 and Ameristar Ethernet
>> boards. It was, indeed, hardcoded.  SANA-II bypasses such problems.
>
>Will the current SANA C= Ethernet driver still support the Ameristar
>boards? I assume the answer is yes, since they're supposed to be the
>same hardware.
>

I thought I said that: ("...and Ameristar Ethernet boards.")

>> >And a reasonable update price for current AS225 owners (please)?
>> 
>> We'll try to work something out.
>
>Yes, please try to convice them not to pull the same thing they did with
>AMIX 2.0->2.1! Will current owners be notified of the upgrade when it
>becomes availible?

That would be nice assuming that we have some means of knowing who
they are.  I suspect that we don't. Very few folks actually send in
those registration cards. So I have no idea how this will be done. We're 
still addressing the issue.

>>  "Pennsylvania - Land of (really) Bad Drivers."   Uva uvam vivendo varia fit 
>
>Never been to Massachusetts, huh? :-)

I have. Massachusetts drivers are simply aggressive and a tad crazy. I
can deal with that. Pennsylvania drivers are lame and inconsistant.
 
>
>--
>Ty Sarna
>Endicor Technologies, Inc.
>tsarna@endicor.com				#include <stddisclaimer.h>

Brian
       +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +
       Brian Jackson    Amiga Networking Group, Commodore-Amiga Inc.
                        bj@cbmvax.commodore.com
     {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!bj    or   networking@cbmvax.commodore.com
 "Pennsylvania - Land of (really) Bad Drivers."   Uva uvam vivendo varia fit
From: bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Networking. (was: LET'S RESCUE THE AMIGA!!...(in misc))
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:08:38 GMT
Reply-To: bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Aug13.195824.2893@linus.mitre.org> wbardwel@el_padre.mitre.org (Bill Bardwell) writes:
>>Actually, someone would have to write a SANA-II driver for one of those
>>little gadgets.  You wouldn't have to go -near- socket.library.  :')
>>-- 
>>Greg Miller                     "Violence never settles anything."
>>Amiga Networking Group                      -  Genghis Khan
>>gregm@cbmvax.commodore.com

>Is this true? does this mean that the update for AS225 is coming soon?
>(cause right now all the stuff for the networking apears to be hardwired
>for whatever hardware you have (all in one .library))

Any new networking stuff that we release will be SANA-II. The original
AS225 inet.library knew about the A2065, A2060 and Ameristar Ethernet
boards. It was, indeed, hardcoded.  SANA-II bypasses such problems.

>Please...
>and a socket.library that is real BSD sockets so that all you have to do
>is take out the UN*Xisms in networking code to run it on the amiga?

Ok.

There are a few little gotchas to doing that. Nothing major, though.

>Please..
>And a reasonable update price for current AS225 owners (please)?

We'll try to work something out.

>William Bardwell

Brian
       +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +
       Brian Jackson    Amiga Networking Group, Commodore-Amiga Inc.
                        bj@cbmvax.commodore.com
     {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!bj    or   networking@cbmvax.commodore.com
 "Pennsylvania - Land of (really) Bad Drivers."   Uva uvam vivendo varia fit 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: mozart@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Witt)
Subject: Re: Updates on fast Supra modems?
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:09:16 GMT

Mmh, I heard something about SUPRA has ordered
all Fax-Modems back (here in Germany anyway),
because of an damaged chip... But I can't give
you exact informations about...

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Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert)
Subject: Warning for AmigaNOS users
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Private Mail/Usenet node
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:22:01 +0000

Had a strange problem where AmigaNOS crashed the machine after receiving a
mail message. Took me about 2 days to work out what was wrong, but it turns
out to have been caused by me having too many

nntp addserver 158.152.1.65 2400 demon.*
nntp addserver 158.152.1.65 2400 local.*
nntp addserver 158.152.1.65 2400 uk.telecom
nntp addserver 158.152.1.65 2400 comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
nntp addserver 158.152.1.65 2400 comp.sys.novell
nntp addserver 158.152.1.65 2400 alt.comp.novell
...etc

lines in my nos-startup file. I deleted a few, and everything returned to
normal.

Just thought I'd warn other AmigaNOS users. :-)

Regards,

Steve.

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From: alfredo@ajahnv.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn V)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Are (un)compress and tar available for Amiga?
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:55:56 GMT
Organization: Amiga 2000 (Home System)

In article <1992Aug20.205321.5686@ucselx.sdsu.edu> malx0600@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Stephen Scheck) writes:
>The subject says it all. I need a program to uncompress unix .Z suffix Lempel
>Ziv files, as well as an Amiga version of tar. Are these available? If so, at
>what ftp site(s)?
>
>Thanks, Steve
>
>malx0600@steer.sdsu.edu
I use Dillon's AmigaUUCP (current version 1.16) to uncompress .Z Unix
files. I can compress on my HP/Apollo at work, UUCP the file home
and uncompress it on my Amiga. Tar is also part of the package, but
I've never used it, so I can't say if it works or not.

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From: avance@dagon.demon.co.uk (Amran Vance)