HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Carl.von.Loesch@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Carl von Loesch)
Subject: Re: Enter Sandman MOD
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:09:39 GMT
Keywords: help me find one!!

pooler@cobb.cs.rpi.edu (Robert Poole) writes:
>It seems that all the Amiga mod files I've heard that are based on Metallica
>songs quite frankly suck.  I have a mod of the Orion instrumental from
>Metallica's "Master of Puppets" album.  It is off tempo, has wrong notes, and
>cuts parts of the instrumental short.  In fact, it cuts out some of the best
>parts of the original song.  Too bad.  I know that they can be done better.

That's the way it is with all Amiga versions of known songs, be it
MODs or SMUSses.

Probably because it is done by people who have superficial knowledge
of music (Pretty natural, we can't all be Mozarts) and/or don't care to be
too perfect. The other ones either make own songs.. or don't make MODs
since MODs _are_ a very restricted form of music notation.

It has some other advantages, but they usually don't suffice for the
professional musician to switch. I'm talking about the basic matrix
type concept of trackers.


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From: johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Random modplayer?
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:21:50 GMT
Organization: ACix - Private UUCP Node, Cloverdale, Western Australia.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dick Verweij (hpverwei@cs.ruu.nl) wrote:
> Is there a modplayer that can 'shuffle' play between mods. e.g. You give a
> directory full of mods, and the player plays them in random order.
> (like a CD-player)

Some CD players can play all tracks in a random order once.

'Multiplayer' will play mods in a random order, but not play them in
a random order once like a CD player.

Latest version of MultiPlayer is V1.32.

Look for
========
MultiPlayer132sr.lha      298082    <source>
MultiPlayer132.lha        125060    <player program only>


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From: Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Eric H Gieseke)
Subject: Re: Great Mods on archives
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26c beta (Nov 16 1992)
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:51:20 CST
Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas


Space Debri and Beyond Music are Incredible,as is OVerlord and
Midnight,and Space Revolution...actually very powerfull musics,someone
should record 'em profesionally! 
Lates!S.W. of Porphyria 1993 ***  *///\\\*
            (((Stereo)))


*SideWinder the Camel Jockey Extrordinaire*
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Question on AIFF format
Date: 19 Nov 92 07:16:09 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Nov16.190101.22751@midway.uchicago.edu> dgc3@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>but the IFF documentation  I have implies that proper
>IFF FORMs must contain a 'BODY' chunk -- 

First time I hear this. Do you mix this up perhaps with the special case
of ILBM FORMs?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Subject: SuperJam and good music
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Keywords: spam, semprini, Bruce, ni, naughty bits
Reply-To: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:49:14 GMT


I have SuperJam by the Blue Ribbon Soundworks and I'll admit I'm no musician, but
even the supplied examples of "music" sound pretty cheezy. I am playing 
the tracks through a Kawai K1 II keyboard and the sound quality is as good
as the keyboard, which is pretty good. It's the composition itself which
really lacks substance.

Has anyone done any "real" work with this product? I was wanting to use
this to make generic music for video production. 

Anyone with comments or serious advice?

-- 
	David

	Disclaimer: The content of this message in no way reflects the
	            opinions of my employer, nor are my actions
		    encouraged, supported, or acknowledged by my
		    employer.
From: ias2033@frontier.draper.com (Ike Stoddard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Dinosaurs "not-the-mama-clonk" sample loc?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:13:59 GMT
Followup-To: ias2033@frontier.draper.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Draper Laboratory

Could someone point me to a ftp site with a sample of the tv-program
"Dinosaurs", wherein Baby says "Not the Mama!" and clonks Earl with a
frypan?  (I can't read comp.binaries.sounds{,.d} hierarchy, otherwise I
would have posted there first.  We have a limited newsfeed.)  This
sample is to be for private, educational use, not for sale or
redistribution.  Sound file format is not a big issue for this request.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Ike
       ias2033@frontier.draper.com
-- 
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STODDARD@DRAPER.COM	Manned Space Systems, Draper Laboratory, Inc.
(617) 258-3882 24 hrs.	Mail Stop 4C, 555 Tech Sq., Cambridge MA 02139
From: Joe_Carp@republik.fidonet.org (Joe Carp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Random modplayer?
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:23:19 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

In a message dated Tue 17 Nov 92 15:58, Joe_carp@republik.fidonet.org (joe 
wrote:
 J> In a message dated Sun 15 Nov 92 15:33, Elm4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ed
 J> Mackey)
 J> wrote:

 J>   User -- 1. one who knows nothing, does nothing. 2. one who's hard
                                                                   ^^^^
 J> controls "mouse" input device; points and clicks and clicks and
 J> points. ;-)

Wow.. i gotta watch those typos.

 EM> Also, in case you didn't notice, EdP 2.1 is capable of a HIRES/lace
 EM> screen
 EM> now, made just for you people who have been bugging me about the
 EM> lores.

 J> Not only that -- it looks real neat too!  Thanks!

 EM> flames SET 0
 EM> Ah, whew, maybe someone should write a book on How to Defend Your
 EM> Software
 EM> from Unfounded Rumors Floating Around on Usenet...  ;-)

 J> We still luv ya Ed.  We have to...  we need you. :-)

 J>    -Joe

 J> -- Via DLG Pro v0.995


-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: larsha@Lise.Unit.NO (Lars Hamre)
Subject: New modules at funic.funet.fi
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:18:10 GMT

I have uploaded some Protracker modules made by Anders Hamre
to funic.funet.fi, in directory /pub/amiga/incoming/audio.

The files are called:

    deviator.lzh   (mod.deviator)             Music.
    srl.lzh        (mod.srl)                  More music.
    sovereign.lzh  (mod.sovereign solemnity)  Even more music.
    organic.lzh    (mod.organic)              Organ(ic)
    whostole.lzh   (mod.who stole my cuica?)  Latin style mix.

---
Lars Hamre
larsha@lise.unit.no
From: christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Whopping Big MOD dir on wuarchive...
Date: 19 Nov 1992 00:51:52 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

  I'm looking for a whopping big MOD directory on wuarchive, but I can't
remember the pathname.  It' breaks down into different letters of the alphabet
even.  If anyone can help me with this, I'd be greatly appreciative.  I'm
looking for:
  alf.mod
  arvids.mod
  bridge.mod
  daisy_chain.mod
  FaceInTheWater.mod
  heaven&hell.mod
  klisje.mod
  snowland.mod
  rainy_night.mod
  shining.mod
  tomorrow.mod
 
  These were referred to in an earlier post, and I'm looking for a place
that has them.               
 
  Thanks, in advance...
 
 
-christian
KUDZU


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: A flame of mine Was: New PC MOD Editor - Testers Required
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:28:08 GMT

If the Amiga and the IBM crowd would cooperate with each other instead
of trying to fight, then there will be more cool mods for everyone, from
both sides of the fence.

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#define  FALSE  1   | "You have been recruited by the Star League to defend
#endif              |    the Frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada."
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: SunRize 16 Bit Board and Software Reviewed in Latest BYTE
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:19:49 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Header pretty much says it all.  Don't have the article in front of

[info about the Sunrize 16 bit board and software deleted]

>Anybody want one?

Yes.  You can send it to my home or work address.

Thanks!

>
>Jeff Harrington
>idealord@dorsai.com

:-)

-Joel
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 / & Senior Producer..../...Moody Broadcasting Network, Chicago, IL. USA /
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From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Top Mod List
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:44:04 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <Eric_H_Gieseke.0kfi@fcircus.sat.tx.us> Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Eric H Gieseke) writes:
>
>There is ALOT of Decent MODs out there....I think it would be very worth
>while to have a MOD top 10 officially started here...like in the
>Euro-Charts format.. I definately have a bunch of favorite MODS,and I
>get new ones Every week...the real good ones are harder to find,But they
>are out there...in the vast sea of the Amiga Music Scene...

OK, i started to do a top ten list about a year ago on a monthly basis.

I am willing to start doing it again, as long as the flames don't start rolling
in agin, again, again.......

Ok here are the rules:

1)  You can only vote for a module that is on an ftp site.
2)  Please send me a list of your favourite 5 modules.
3)  Do not vote for composers, vote for music!!
4)  The first chart will be released in the week starting the 7th of december.
5)  No double voting
6)  Please try and supply the ftp site of where the module is. (saves me having
    to do a million archie searches for mod file names that don't exist!!)
7)  No voting for yourself.
    ( a real bummer for me sidewinder, maruku, echo, etc...  =8*)  )
8)  Votes only accepted by e-mail to myself.  e-mail supplied below.


This is an example of what i would like to receive (format)

eg.

================================================================================
Number | Name of .MOD file packed and on archive      | Archive ftp site
================================================================================
  1    | Klisje paa klisje                            | 128.252.135.4
  2    | Hard to the core                             | 128.252.135.4
  3    | Harley Music                                 | 130.60.80.80
  4    | Cover My Eyes                                | 130.60.80.80
  5    | Red Sector Theme                             | 128.252.135.4
================================================================================

Ok here are the e-mails you can send to.  Though please try to send to the
british site first before you try the american side.
Thanks

CLosing date for votes.....7th Of December 1992   (U.K.)

e-mail:  jim.young@bristol.ac.uk
         jim.young@uk.ac.bristol
         juyoung@uccs.edu
         u4ia@megawatts.async.vt.edu

My friends

U4ia of Megawatts

p.s.  Maybe for a special xmas edition i will  do a top 50!!!  Depends on how
      many votes i get in.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Subject: Re: The best ModPlayer?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:01:18 GMT

In <1992Nov23.145442.15043@ifi.uio.no> nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen) writes:

>> But anyway - yes, MultiPlayer is beyond a shadow of a doubt, the best mod
>> player available.

>... and not 4000 compatible (sigh).

*WHAT*? Is it not '040 compatible, or AGA, or 3.0, or...? Have you mailed
a bug report to Bryan? (I'm a reg'd user, so maybe I'd better do it, if you
can give me some more info...)

>And a very messy display.

Is it any different to the display on an A3000? (Everything looks really
sexy.)

Barry.
From: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se (J|rgen B|rjesson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Sample editor?
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:49:09 GMT
Reply-To: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se (J|rgen B|rjesson)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

Can someone recommend a good (preferable PD/SW) sample editor?

Thanx,
      Jorgen Borjesson

E-mail: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se

"It's more fun to compute"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Subject: Re: The best ModPlayer?
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:58 GMT

In article 92Nov20134355@lagrange.iesd.auc.dk, bak@iesd.auc.dk (Soeren Bak) writes:
>
>I would like to hear what the AMIGA-folks have to say about
>MOD-players.
>
>I need a player which will multi-task, and is controlled by the mouse,
>and at the same time uses as little memory as possible.
>
>Send your reply by email or in this newsgroup.
>
>bak@iesd.auc.dk
>
>
>"Life starts at '030..."
>	...getting fun at '040
>	...impotence at '86"


EdPlayer 2.0....

no questions asked..
From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: How about a PD sequencer for the Amiga?
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:34:53 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: The DSV institute of Stockholm, Sweden
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Kristian P J Koivisto (krisi@vipunen.hut.fi) wrote:

: so I reckoned I'd start programming my own.

Please, do it.

--
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=  Mattias  =  matt-dah@dsv.su.se  =  I love it.        =
=========================================================
From: chrisl@cbmvax.commodore.com (Christian Ludwig - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Question on AIFF format
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:23:48 GMT
Reply-To: chrisl@cbmvax.commodore.com (Christian Ludwig - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov4.192112.29300@midway.uchicago.edu> dgc3@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.164321.29968@cognos.com> heeschv@cognos.com (Brian VanHeesch) writes:
>>Is AIFF simply a digitize sample of sounds? (as opposed to a MOD)
>>On the macintosh they are referred to as SNDs.
>>
>>I have a Macintosh and not an Amiga, and am interested in converting
>>between the two.
>
>Oh, wow.  First, I suggest you get the audio file formats document in
>alt.binaries.sounds.d.  It explains these things.
>
>If that's too much to wade through, here's a quick summary.  A mod is
>a collection  of sampled sounds and a sequencing track describing to
>the player program in what order, and with what special effects, to
>play the 'samples'.  Almost every other sound format (execptions
>include .mid and .rol) is sampled audio.  'SND ' is the resource type
>of a Mac system sound.  AIFF is actually another Mac-based format
>that's used separately from the  system -- i.e., it's not installed as
>a beep.  AIFF is quite similar to, but more flexible than, IFF, the
>predominant Amiga format for sampled sound.  Other formats you might
[stuff deleted from here...]

Actually, AIFF is an Apple registered IFF FORM type.  It is documented
in the Amiga Devices Rom Kernal Manual, and in many Apple documents.  As
AIFF is a subset of IFF, it wouldn't be correct to say that's it's more
flexible.  It would, however be safe to say that AIFF is more flexible
than 8SVX, the predominant Amiga 8-bit sampling format, mainly because
AIFF can describe non-8-bit samples.

     /// Christian Ludwig - Commodore CATS    (chrisl@cbmvax.commodore.com)
    ///
\\\///   The opinions expressed may not reflect the official position of my
 \XX/    employer.   (Of course that depends on which position they're in!)
From: bubblz@ecst.csuchico.edu (Boy Wonder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Shamen at 17-BIT
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:38:53 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: erasure.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1992Nov20.102848.6303@aston.ac.uk> mcgraicp@cs.aston.ac.uk writes:
>UNCLE ZEFF Answers...
>Well Matt, the A500+ has one meg of CHIP ram, which basically means you can hav
>more samples and therefore do better remixes, and also create better pieces ofl
>
>The old A500 (when upgraded) has 1/2 meg CHIP ram and 1/2 meg FAST ram.
>

Speaking of chip ram, I've heard of a hack that can make your old A500
treat your xtended 512 in the trapdoor act as chip ram, therefore 
extedning your chip ram to a mind-bending 1M. :-)  I know this is not
.hardware, but hey!  It's a logical thread, right? :-)  It's something
like cutting a jumper and spinning around on your head clockwise 3 times.

-Jason
From: james@sol1.east-london.ac.uk (James Andrews, User Support)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: VO-REC-ONE
Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:13:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

One of our students would like some info on a voice recogition card. We dont
have usenet news access, so please reply by email.  ta.
- -------------------------------------------------------------

I am trying to get hold of this voice recognition board or a similar board
available. Second hand or new it does not matter. I need it for a project whereI am writing the software to enable the system to understand CLI and workbench
 commands when using the board. This board that I mentioned was available about three years ago but I can't remember the distributors name. If anyone can help , as time is tight and the alternative is building my own, I would heap great
 gifts onto your person. Thanks.

 By the way I am using a A3000 system.

- -------------------------------------------------------------

please reply to james@sol1.uel.ac.uk
From: Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Eric H Gieseke)
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.26c beta (Nov 19 1992)
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:01:38 CST
Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas


THere is a way to protect your samples.....and your music to an extend..
Write it as an executable and then crunch it onto disk...maybe re write
the DOS ect....Eventually some one will probally get into it ..but I
mean alot of Demo MODs are VEry hard to get into by most people with
rippers... BUt I dont think its that important to keep your samples to
yourselves... Many MOD writers now have access to very powerfull
Synths,and could come up with the Identical or even better sounding
sample on their own...AS the old saying goes...its not as much the
sample as how much you can do with da sample.    ALso If you MOD writers
come up with a Song you really like.....COPYRIGHT it! Not very hard at
all,and at least your music will be protected from commercial Software
Huts making money off your music Without your Agreement...THe best way I
found is to make a Cassette of all your Best Tunes,and Copyright the
Whole Tape!!   THis is also very usefull in the 'Pro world too....
Lates!S.W. of POrhpyria1993***   *Amiga .....OY!
*///\\\*






*SideWinder the Camel Jockey Extrordinaire*
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Eric_H_Gieseke@fcircus.sat.tx.us
From: elm4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Ed Mackey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Random modplayer?
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:30:55 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov19.115354.4910@ifi.uio.no>, nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Co
rneliusen) writes:
>
>If a modplayer plays modules wrong, it is the modplayer's problem!! It sounds
>kind of stupid saying "Well, I know it is wrong, but I don't know how to fix
>it". Who wants or needs a player that does it wrong?

I'm going to go insane.  Look, I USED SOMEONE ELSE'S CODE IN MY PROGRAM,
and I am not able to debug this other person's code right now.
All you programmers out there, take note:  Avoid using other people's
code in your programs if at all possible.  It has caused me nothing
but headaches as far back as MegaBall 1.0 when I first started using
the NoiseTracker replay that didn't work on some systems (due to
DMA waits, wouldn't you know!! :)

>IMHO, the replayer itself should have been distributed as a library. Only in
>that case everyone could complain to Lars etc. for faulty code.

Ick!!  A library?  What for??  I would never be able to get EdSynth to
work from a library, nor auto-fade, nor master volume, nor the
spectrum analyzer, nor the SWait command, nor the VU meters,
*deep breath*, nor the autostop, nor the MIDI ridirect, etc., etc., etc.,
unless the author of the library explicitly put special functions
and hooks into the code for all of them.

I would much rather get a sourcecode for the replay from the author of
the mod editor (ie PT, MED, ie Lars, Teijo) so that I can add all of
these things myself (as I have).  The only trouble is, the code I got
has bugs, and don't even think of telling me I can't complain to the
authors about those bugs.

>(BTW, we are working on such a library right now, which supports all known
>module types :-).

If you are interested in lots of obscure mod formats, but don't need a
whole lot in the way of fancy displays or an impressive ARexx command set,
go use MultiPlayer or DeliTracker.  If you only use the most well-known
trackers (ProTracker, MED) but you want lots of cool options, external
control, and fun-to-watch kind of things, use EdPlayer.

It's the old tradeoff:  The more formats, the less features.  The more
features, the less formats.  Take your pick.

Followups-to comp.amiga.modplayers.advocacy   :)

                                     --Ed.
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