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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:53:38 EDT
Reply-To:     "Theodoros Sp. Zarros" <zarros@SCS.CARLETON.CA>
From:         "Theodoros Sp. Zarros" <zarros@SCS.CARLETON.CA>
Subject:      Re: Ekpaideush
Comments: To: Hellas <hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu>
              "AFILINDR%CC.BRYNMAWR.EDU@brownvm.brown.edu" at Apr 13,
              92 12:40 pm

AFILINDR%CC.BRYNMAWR.EDU@brownvm.brown.edu grafei :

Aleka , an ayto to posting einai h ergasia poy exeis na kaneis gia to
sxoleio soy , kalytera na mhn thn dwseis giati 0a ekte0eis.
Den exei shmasia an kai poy diafwnw me ayta poy grafeis.Shmasia exei
oti genikeyeis ay0aireta apo memonwmena kai polles fores asxeta gegonota,
xrhsimopoieis anakribh stoixeia kai o tropos poy metaxeirizesai tis phges
soy einai mallon diakosmhtikos , para oysiastikos . To symperasma :

D- kai na er0eis ayrio me ton khdemona soy :-)))
Merika shmeia apo to mail soy poy me 'enoxlhsan'

> 1.To susthma eisagwghs sto Ellhniko Panepisthmio epitrepei thn eisodo mono
> tou enos tritou twn eksetasthentwn.(130,000 eksetasthentes tha einai fetos ki
> oi theseis einai 40,700 kai 6,545 apo autes pane stous apofoitous twn TEL kai
> Polukladikwn pou mpainoun sta TEI xwris eksetaseis. BHMA 9.3.92).
> Apotelesma; To ena trito twn Ellhnwn foithtwn brisketai sto ekswteriko. Exei
                !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ma an empainan oloi oi ypopshfioi poios o logos na exoyme systhma eisagwghs;:-)
To gegonos oti exoyme se polloys kladoys exoyme poly perissoteroys ptyxioyxoys
ap' oti xreiazomaste , den se apasxolei ?
Ekeino to noymero gia toys ksenitemenoys foithtes apo poy to symperanes bre
Aleka ?

> upologistei oti me to sunallagma pou xanei kathe xrono h xwra, tha mporousame
> mesa se liga xronia na beltiwsoume aperiorista to ekpaideutiko mas xali.

Ayto thn aoristologia mallon thn phres apo efhmerida kai oxi apo to biblio
poy anafereis.
> (P. Poluxronopoulos, Paideia kai Politikh sthn Ellada, Ekdoseis Kataniwth,
>  1978)

> na pairnoun treis ki ekshnta. Prosfato paradeigma o Ellhnas tou opoiou to
 onoma  mou diafeugei, o opoios phre to Nompel prin duo-tria xronia.

Nomizw oti ypopshfios gia to Nompel htan aytos o "Ellhnas" poy ypainisesai,
xwris na eimai sigoyros.

> 3. ta biblia einai apo kakogrammena mexri entelws aparadekta kai dustuxws oi
> kathhghtes den exoun allh epilogh para na ta didaksoun.

Einai ola ta biblia kakogrammena kai aparadekta ki an nai , gia pio logo ;
Mhn genikeyeis ay0aireta. Egw mporw na soy ferw paradeigmata eksairetika
poiotikwn bibliwn , opws to perifhmo "prasino" biblio ma0hmatikwn ths
A' prwths desmhs (0ewria ari0mwn , Domes, Polywnyma k.l.p) poy xrhsimopoiw
akoma kai shmera san metaptyxiakos foithths.

> 4. H ekmathhsh ths Ellhnikhs glwssas (h dhmotikh egine epishmh glwssa tou
> kratous tw swthriw etei 1982) se polla sxoleia einai apo elleiphs ews
 xeiristh-
> eksartatai sunhthws apo to filologo.  ma epitrepetai na bazoume mathhtes na
> apomnhmoneuoun dokimia tou Papanoutsou gia... na mathoun na grafoun
>  ektheseis;

Ayto twra pws soy hr0e. Dokimia toy Papanoytsoy ??? Eytyxws sto diko mas
(dhmosio) sxoleio den eixame tetoia pragmata.

> 6. Ston tomea twn texnwn ta Ellhnika sxoleia exoun maura mesanuxta.Me mia wra
> texnikwn (thn plakas) thn ebdomada, ti tha matheis; Apo kei kai pera, to
>  theatroh mousikh, h fwtografia, h sinematografia einai gia tous ligous kai
>  eklektous
> pou mporoun kai briskoun kapoies wres anamesa se frontisthrio kai sxoleio.

Edw symfwnoyme apolyta. !!!

> 8. To panepisthmiako mpaxalo: Se polles sxoles oi kathhghtes oute kan patane
> gia tis partadoseis--profanws to exoun dedomeno oti oute oi foithtes tha pa-
> thsoun afou apousies den mpainoun outws h allws. Opoios endiaferetai, as
> rwthsei foithtes twn TEI tou Aigalew.

Edw me sygxwreis alla toy allakses ta fwta. Oi sxoles poy den patane oi
ka0hghtes stis paradoseis elpizw na einai liges. Pantws h parapomph soy
stoys foithtes twn TEI Aigalew den einai eystoxh , giati sta TEI oi parako-
loy0hseis einai ypoxrewtikes kai mpainoyn apoysies.

> 9. H ktiriakh upodomh enos megalou merous tou Ellhnikou Panepisthmiou einai
> aneparkestath. Perase kaneis kammia bolta mprosta apo to ktirio ths Nomikhs
> Athhnwn teleutaia; Sthn Patra, uparxoun amfitheatra xwris sanides sto patwma,
> kai to oti den skotwnesai ofeiletai sthn kalh sou tuxh. Oi foithtikes esties
> einai aneparkeis.

Egw bre Aleka pente xronia gurnaga sta amfi0eatra ths Patras kai doksa tw 0ew,
kai den skotw0hka kai to ptyxio moy phra.Oi sanides se diabebaiw htan sthn 0e-
sh toys.

> 11. Yparxei swreia "aiwniwn foithwn" (eidika Palaistiniwn sthn Patra apo oti
> lene ta paidia ekei) pou kostizoun sto Dhmosio kai sthn tseph tou
 forologoumenou
Koita oi Palaistinioi einai allh istoria.Aytoi pantws poy den paizoyn tennis
me xeirobombides stis esties , einai kaloi foithtes kai prospa0oyn an mh ti
allo na ma0oyn pente pragmata.

Twra gia thn bibliografia poy proteineis 0a se symbouleya prwta ap' ola esy
na ths rikseis mia matia giati o tropos poy xeirizesai to olo 0ema ths ekpai-
deyshs einai teleiws ypokeimenikos kai epipolaios.

> Auta.
> Filika,
> Aleka
>
Epishs filika.

0eodwros Kserolas , Akadhmaikos.
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