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From: escr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (elizabeth)
Subject: the vanishing: can i rent it ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:05:04 GMT

I must admit all this talk about the vanishing (the european version)
has made me really want to see it. Can I rent this somewhere in America?
If not, can I see it in an art theatre or something? 
e-mail replies are preferable...
escr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:51:34 -0400 
From: Peter Yung Chang <pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Woman in For Your Eyes Only

I don't think Carole Bouquet has done many movies.  To my knowledge she
has been _the_ spokeswoman for Chanel since at least '86 or so,
therefore you can find her in numerous Chanel No. 5 ads and commercials.
 Other than that, not much...


					
					peech

Peter Chang
Economics/Industrial Management
Carnegie Mellon University
<pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:44:52 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu


	One of my favorite musicals is Guys and Dolls.  Granted, it has Marlon
Brando in it, but then it also has Frank Sinatra, and it is, as my girlfriend
put it, rich with words.  I think that sums up the atmosphere of Guys and Dolls
admirably: it is rich with words.

	Of course, I can't say enough about Top Hat or The Gay Divorcee, either.

--
"If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste more like
prunes than rhubarb does."              -Groucho Marx 

gharris@jade.tufts.edu          George Harris, Tufts Univ. Dept. of Mathematics
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: scorsese & hitchcock
Date: 21 Jul 92 01:57:32 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

HI>>      I didn't see that much Hitchcock to "Cape Fear" - other than the
HI>>      Bernard Herrmann score, which is reminiscent of "Psycho."
HI>The Saul Bass titles, the Henry Bumstead set design, the psychosis of Cady,
HI>the thematic of a seemingly safe middle class existence suddenly threatened
HI>and undermined, the visual allusions to "To Catch a Thief" (in the fireworks)
HI>"North by Northwest" (American national iconography gently being sent up),
HI>"Vertigo" (the colour symbolism, especially when Leigh applies lipstick),
HI>and the notion of doubleness which is prevalent in numerous Hitchcock films
HI>and which is reflected in the Cady/Sam relationship, the icy blondeness of
HI>Leigh, and so on.  I might be pushing a little hard on one or two points,
HI>but I have not even mentioned camera angles, have I?

     I stand corrected.  :)  I had indeed forgotten about the Saul Bass
     titles.  I recognized the name as soon as I first saw it in the
     theatre, but it slipped away as I was posting that message.

     However, I haven't seen "To Catch A Thief" yet, so I missed the bit
     with the fireworks.  I also question the use of famous American
     symbols such as we saw in "North By Northwest."  The only
     "iconography" I can remember that really stood out in the movie was
     the parade on Main Street, and the houseboat on the water.  (And
     as far as Generic America goes, the idea of a houseboat as Truly
     American is iffy.)

     I also disagree about the camera angles.  Scorsese's camera style in
     "Cape Fear" differs strongly from Hitchcock.  Hitch was fond of using
     very long takes and careful camera pans to relate the onscreen action
     with his recurring formalistic patterns (lines in in "North By
     Northwest," spirals in "Vertigo," etc.), while Scorsese's direction
     was something entirely different.  The use of machine-gun-paced
     editing, quick cuts, moving cameras to emphasize the action (most
     noticeably the camera moving at a 360-degree angle during the chaos
     of the final battle), in-your-face close-ups juxtaposed with wide-
     angle vistas (such as the jail set against the ominously stormy sky),
     and so on...the direction style definitely helped contribute towards
     the edge-of-your-seat suspense of the movie - and it was markedly
     DIFFERENT from Hitchcock.
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From: fafhrd@jessica.stanford.edu (Adrian Klein)
Subject: Re: dr. strangelove (amba
Organization: The Planet of Sound
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:58:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.1489.25002@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>DB>the ambassador in turn accuses Turgidson of "This stupid fool was trying
>DB>to plant this rediculous fake camera on me!" which it seems Turgidson
>DB>was--and then the ambassador ends up taking pictures anyway!
>
>     It seems more likely that the Soviet Ambassador (I believe the
	       ^^^^^^^^^^^
>     President calls him "Alexei" at one point) was indeed carrying
>     the spy camera in the cigarette case - unless Turgidson was so


	I agree... it seems strange (and not strange in the same way that the
whole movie is strange!) to think of the Ambassador taking pictures with a
camera that was planted on him.  (How would he know if it was loaded with film,
or how many exposures were left? :-> )
From: cc.swarthmore.edu!hpouncy1@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REVIEW: HONEY, I BLEW UP THE KID
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:15:00 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

Well, I finally got an answer to my question on the giant baby's
bathroom habits.  In a Newsweek review, David Ansen writes,
"Director Kleiser and screenwriters Eberhardt, Elbling and Goodrow
see to it that this potentially nightmarish situation stays
benign by making Adam himself cheerfully oblivious to his
altered state....and the filmmakers tactfully resist the
temptation to indulge in any Brobdingnagian bathroom humor
(Think of what John Waters could have done with this!)"

I don't know, is this tactfulness or a movie error by omission?
From: ejohnson@graph.. (Liz Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "Sisters" song - where????
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:38:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

In article <1992Jul28.143457.8202@infonode.ingr.com>  
dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans ) writes:
> O.K. Movie quote-ahaulics, name this movie for me.  It contained
> the song:
> 
> sisters, sisters, there were never such devoted sisters,
> many men have tried to split us up, but no one can
> lord, help the mister who comes between me and my sister
> and lord, help the sister who comes between me and my man!
> 
> I'm thinking late-70's?  Help if you can.

Way off. I believe it was "White Christmas" with Bing Crosby and Danny  
Kaye. They sang it while dressed in drag. The two women in the film may  
also have sung it earlier in the film.
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From: lmiller@lucy.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: BOOMERANG
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:15:27 PDT

In article <BrqxsB.9BK@me.utoronto.ca>, steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:
> lmiller@lucy.claremont.edu writes:
> 
>>Getting worse?!  He has matured and that maturity is evident through not only
>>his choice in movies but interviews and articles he, himself, has written.  
> 
> Yeah, but he just ain't funny anymore.  He used to come on talk shows (esp.
> Arsenic) and just do non-stop schtick.  Now he comes on and dazzles us with
> his brilliant(!) insights on religion and the electoral process.  Even
> worse, he's disavowed much of his previous material (e.g. Raw), much of
> which was "angry-young-man", but was also reasonably insightful.
> 
> Eddie has become one with the sensitive 90's, and it just makes me sick.  Sorry kids, but if I want to see a black Cary Grant, I'd rather watch Denzel.
> --
> Dave!


I am delighted that Eddie Murphy has decided to join the world of mature
adults.  If you want the immature antics of Raw, then so be it.  It's a great
thing for young men to see someone realizing his mistakes and bettering his
life.  As a plubic figure, I think that Mr. Murphy has made a move in the right
direction.  I think twice, now, when a guy tells me he's a Murphy fan.  I use
to write him off.  :)

No one has to grow up, but it's nice.

Tanya
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From: pealbers@laplace.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers)
Subject: TERMINATOR II
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:15:44 GMT

In article <91581@bu.edu> antoniou@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou) writes:
>Watching this flick again...  
>
>In the end when the Liquid-Metal-Terminator (LMT), the Terminator,  the chip,
>and the arm were melted...  and they said all is destroyed....  SURPRISE!!!
>
>Remember when the LMT shoved the Terminator's left arm into the huge sprocket
>thing....  the Terminator had to ripe his arm off to break free...
>well... well...  guess what they forgot to melt...  the Terminators riped
>left arm...
>
>So... T3 should be coming out soon...  hahaha...  You see the arm will still
>be in the present... meaning the 'same' future will still evolve (the nuclear
>holocaust)...  T3 should settle that problem... don't you think.....
>

I was thinking of a possible plot for part 3 and you just filled in the 
missing link I needed.  How does this sound...

Arnie plays a dual role as a skynet scientist working on a certain 
defence project and as a terminator sent back to prevent judgement day.
Another terminator is also sent to cause JD and/or get rid of John Connors.

I think that the date of judgement day would be a good release date.
(or maybe a week before, just in case ) :)

Paul
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From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:38:33 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <1992Jul21.142537.26463@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
<ed@wente.llnl.gov Ed Suranyi writes:
<>
<>So here are my favorites:
<>
<>West Side Story -- Not only is this my favorite musical, but it's one of
<>my top ten movies of all genres.  Even though I've seen it many times,
<>Leonard Bernstein's music still thrills me, and Maria's speech at the 
<>end of the movie always leaves me in tears.
<
<I'd list this as my most disappointing musical. I know for a lot of
<people my age that soundtrack was the first non-rock music that we
<heard extensively. The music is great, but the movie is static and
<goofy. Most perverse fun: scatalogical variations on "Maria." A horrible
<song...insanely treacly lyric.

What can I say?  I still think it's one of the best movies ever made.
Of course, I saw it long before I got seriously into rock music.
When I was growing up, the only music heard in our house was classical
and show tunes.

I agree with the person who said that the dubbing of singing voices
was distracting, but in my opinion the sheer beauty of the songs
overpowers this problem, which is most noticeable, I agree, in 
"Maria".  But when performed well this song is just stunning.

I'd like to thank everyone for their terrific suggestions.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: acw@Apple.COM (Art Willis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Hitchcock comedy
Summary: Don't forget The Trouble With Harry
Keywords: Hitchcock Comedy
Date: 14 Jul 92 02:06:52 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Jul8.130448.10909@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:
>In article <Br1Foy.Mn1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ziauddin@osiris (Tasneem Ziauddin) writes...
>} I seem to remember that some time in his career Alfred Hitchcock directed 
>} a romantic comedy. I think it was released early in his career, possibly
>} after "Rebecca."  Does anyone know the title of this film?
>
>As others have already mentioned, you're most likely thinking of MR. AND
>MRS. SMITH, as that's the only one that came after REBECCA. I wanted to
>point out, though, that Hitchcock did a number of romantic comedies
>earlier in his career, though in some cases (such as THE 39 STEPS, YOUNG
>AND INNOCENT, and THE LADY VANISHES) they are more or less half thrillers
>and half romantic comedies.
>
>--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)
>
>    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com

Hitchcock also made at least one romantic comedy later in his career, 
"The Trouble With Harry" (1955).  This has always been one of my favorite
Hitchcock films.  Does anybody rememeber if this was Shirley MacLaine's
movie debut?

Regards,

Art Willis
acw@apple.com
From: laplace.waterloo.ed!pealbers@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: TERMINATOR II
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:15:00 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <91581@bu.edu> antoniou@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou) writes:
>Watching this flick again...  
>
>In the end when the Liquid-Metal-Terminator (LMT), the Terminator,  the 
chip,
>and the arm were melted...  and they said all is destroyed....  SURPRISE!!!
>
>Remember when the LMT shoved the Terminator's left arm into the huge 
sprocket
>thing....  the Terminator had to ripe his arm off to break free...
>well... well...  guess what they forgot to melt...  the Terminators riped
>left arm...
>
>So... T3 should be coming out soon...  hahaha...  You see the arm will still
>be in the present... meaning the 'same' future will still evolve (the 
nuclear
>holocaust)...  T3 should settle that problem... don't you think.....
>

I was thinking of a possible plot for part 3 and you just filled in the 
missing link I needed.  How does this sound...

Arnie plays a dual role as a skynet scientist working on a certain 
defence project and as a terminator sent back to prevent judgement day.
Another terminator is also sent to cause JD and/or get rid of John Connors.

I think that the date of judgement day would be a good release date.
(or maybe a week before, just in case ) :)

Paul
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:49:26 -0400 
From: Krista Campbell <kc2t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The soundtrack of Until the End of the World
	<1992Jul29.125309.23272@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>



Another song that is in the movie and not on the soundtrack is 'Breakin'
the Rules' by Robbie Robertson.  It is on his "Storyville" release.
From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Brains Poem
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:58:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Hey--

Does anyone know the words the poem "Pointy Birds", which Steve
Martin's character (Dr. Hofhururur??) recited in _The Man with
Two Brains_? Also, what was the name of the poet?

Just wondering,


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: yep@wam.umd.edu (--!!HEY!!--)
Subject: Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Originator: yep@rac2.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 19:14:01 GMT


HEY!!! >-)))-D

The DC area is hosting a limited one week engagement of a Japanese/
animated/live/black&white movie called, "Tetsuo: The Iron Man"

from what i've heard it's a very violent and oddball of a film.

anyone heard of it?
worth seeing?


E ME!
Yep "movie goer"
yep@wam.umd.edu


BUH-ByE!
>-)))-D
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: Howard's End
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:39:45 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <2045@diasonx.UUCP> quang@diasonx.UUCP (Quang Ton) writes:
>I've seen Howard's End but didnot like the movie at all despite raving reviews.
>Does anyone out there feel the same way or is it just me being a lame brain ?

>
>Actually, I loved the movie, however, I had read the book and I appreciated
>what a great job the actors did in portraying such complex characters and
>how well the moviemakers did in maintaining the integrity of the book on
>film.  

>Kris

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From: fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "Sisters" song - where????
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:54:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul28.103819.18638@news.cs.indiana.edu> ejohnson@graph.. (Liz Johnson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.143457.8202@infonode.ingr.com>  
>dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans ) writes:
[...]
>> sisters, sisters, there were never such devoted sisters,
>> many men have tried to split us up, but no one can
>> lord, help the mister who comes between me and my sister
>> and lord, help the sister who comes between me and my man!
[...]
>Way off. I believe it was "White Christmas" with Bing Crosby and Danny  
>Kaye. They sang it while dressed in drag. The two women in the film may  
>also have sung it earlier in the film.

The two women in the film were Rosemary Clooney & Vera-Ellen,
and yes, they sang it earlier in the film.  Crosby & Kaye dressed
in drag & lip-synched to a record to allow the sisters time to
duck out on a bill-collector or some such.  The song is by Irving
Berlin, along with the rest of the film's songs, including one
of my favorites, "Count Your Blessings."
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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Picnic at Hanging Rock
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:51:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.152335.22867@cs.nott.ac.uk> cczcolin@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (Colin Emerson) writes:
>raj@keyword.com (Raj N. (keyword)) writes:
>
>"Picnic at Hanging Rock" was based on an eerie incident in Australia at the
>turn of the century. From what I can remember the film makes no attempt to
>solve the mystery it just presents the known facts. What happened to the missing
>two girls and their teacher is still a mystery to this day. I did read a book
>some years ago about the incident and remember that the girl who was found, but
>remembered little about the climb, later died at quite a young age without ever
>remembering anything more.

Ummmmm . . . I've never seen the movie (I *want* to someday though.  It
sounds cool) but I've read Danny Peary's comments on it in whichever volume
of _Cult Movies_ it's listed in.  I seem to recall him stating that the
incidents depicted in the movie (and in the book) did *not* actually happen.
It was all fictional.

I can dig up actual quotes if I have to but the book is at home right now.

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From: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: RE: Mia Sara movies
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:38:40 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

From the actress list (posted to rec.arts.movies):


Sara, Mia		Any Man's Death
			Apprentice to Murder
			Big Time (1988)
			By the Sword
			Climate for Killing, A
			Daughter of Darkness (TV)
			Ferris Bueller's Day Off
			Legend
			Queenie (TV)
			Shadows in the Storm
			Stranger Among Us, A
			Till We Meet Again (1989) (TV)
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From: is430a13@umbc5.umbc.edu (is430a13)
Subject: Re: UNLAWFUL ENTRY (spoiler)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:29:32 GMT

>I am also wondering if I saw the same movie as the poster above. The
>policeman, I also recall, became obsessed with the wife, and wasn't
>interested in protecting her. Infact, who would he protect her from,
>since the person who attacked her, was caught by him, not far into the
>movie.
>
>

I think protecting her was the EXCUSE the cop used. No, he did in fact have
no intention of doing so, but simply in gaining access to her life so he could
terrorize her. The guys a real loony toon.
From: wallis@ils.nwu.edu (Mindy Wallis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:53:51 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences

>>In article <92204.114318JIW2@psuvm.psu.edu> JIW2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>>    Another related subject that might be worth bringing up is
>>>the movie that isn't really a musical, but contains a lot of
>>>music all the same.

"Some Like It Hot" seems to be one of these films.  And some recent "musicals"
like "Victor/Victoria" and "Fame" are filled with musical numbers, but they
aren't musicals in the traditional sense (songs are not used to move the
plot forward or explain characters motivations).

Speaking of traditional musical, has anyone mentioned one of my all-time 
favorites "The Music Man"?  I just love Robert Preston.

Of course there is also "The Wizard of Oz" (so obvious that no one thinks of
it).  And my other Judy Garland favorite, "Meet Me in St. Louis."  Maybe not
a great musical, but a great film.

I've always liked "Oklahoma," particularly for Gloria Grahame as Ado Annie
and Rod Steiger as Jud.

-----
Mindy
wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
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From: petersgj@cis9.b10.ingr.com (Gary J. Peters)
Subject: Re: Extra in James Bond Movies
Keywords: Bond, James Bond
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:28:28 GMT

>>I just say For Your Eyes Only on WTBS and noticed that during the snow/
>>motorcycle chase that a fast cut is made to a guy holding a wine glass at
>>a picnic table.  I first noticed this same guy in the beach scene in The 
>>Spy Who Loved Me where the Lotus drives out of the water.  He is also in
>>the gondola driving scene in St. Mark's square in Moonraker.  
>>
>>My question: who is this guy?  Is he a friend of the producers or one of
>>those in jokes by the director?
>>
>>-phil
>
>I recall reading somewhere that this guy is a friend of Cubby Broccoli's.
>I think this was in the The Official James Bond Handbook or some such. I
>don't have it here at work but I'll check it out later and see if the
>guy's name is in there.  

In response to my own post, the book was The James Bond Trivia Quiz Book
by Philip Gurin.  It says, "It is rumored that he is a personal friend 
of producer Broccoli."  Doesn't give a name.  I love James Bond movies,
but wish Broccoli would leave out humorous little tidbits like these.

Gary Peters
Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, Alabama USA
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