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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: "Poser the Nazi German"s pathetic lies are further exposed.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 00:42:28 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct10.180758.20559@dscomsf.desy.de> poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE) writes:

>Gentlecritters, it seems as if the dreaded beast is again mutating and trying
>to evade cauterising measures. He seems to be fucking around with the UCBVAX
>gateway again, which he didn't do recently, since he went through some 

Pass the Nazi Poser, please. I have a better advice: stop lying on this
net and return to the Nazi zoo where you were born. In 1941, while the 
Jews were being assembled for their doom in the Nazi concentration camps, 
the Armenian volunteers in Germany formed the first Armenian battalion to 
fight alongside the Nazis. In 1943, this battalion had grown into eight 
battalions of 20,000-strong under the command of the former guerilla leader 
Dro (the butcher), who was the former dictator of the short-lived Armenian 
Dictatorship (1918-1920) and the architect of the cold-blooded genocide of 
2.5 million Turks and Kurds between 1914-1920.  An Armenian National Council 
was formed by the notorious Dashnak Party leaders in Berlin, which was 
recognized by the Nazis. Encouraged by this, the Armenians summarily formed 
a provisional government that endorsed and espoused fully the principles of 
the Nazis and declared themselves as the members of the Aryan super race 
and full participants to Hitler's policy of extermination of the Jews.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: ksahin@oscar.UUCP (Kamil Sahin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: MEB bursu borc odemesi
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:38:50 GMT
Reply-To: ksahin@oscar.hns.com (Kamil Sahin)
Organization: Hughes Network Systems, San Diego

Herkese iyigunler,

Aranizda MEB'den burslu gelip daha sonra borcunu odeyenler varsa ogrenmek
istedigim bir sey var:

Bakanlik kendilerine olan borcumu bildirdi ve benden bir odeme plani istiyor.
Fakat gonderdikleri yazida taksit miktarlari icin hic bir sey belirtilmemis 
("borcunuzla orantili taksit miktari" ifadesi disinda). Bu durumda ne kadarlik
bir miktar onermem mantikli olur ? Odeme suresinde herhangi bir limit var mi,
kriter nedir, herhangi bir teklifi red etmeleri soz konusu mu ?

Bu konuda bilgisi olanlar email adresime yazarlarsa memnun olurum.
Simdiden tesekkurler...

Kamil Sahin
ksahin@oscar.hns.com
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Anti-Muslim "wieneramus" jokes.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 18:20:55 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <718145284@locust.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener) writes:

>Chicago Cro, a person already exposed for his ignorance of
>Serbo-Croat, writes:

Look who is talking about ignorance? "wieneramus the racist". 

Source: Walker, Christopher: "Armenia: The Survival of a Nation."
        New York (St. Martin's Press), 1980.

This generally pro-Armenian work contains the following information
of direct relevance to the Nazi Holocaust: 

a) Dro (the butcher), the former Dictator of the Armenian Dictatorship and
the architect of the Genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds, the most 
respected of Nazi Armenian leaders, established an Armenian Provisional 
Republic in Berlin during World War II; 

b) this 'provisional government' fully endorsed and espoused the social 
theories of the Nazis, declared themselves and all Armenians to be members 
of the Aryan 'Super-Race;' 

c) they published an Anti-Semitic, racist journal, thereby aligning themselves 
with the Nazis and their efforts to exterminate the Jews; and, 

d) they mobilized an Armenian Army of up to 20,000 members which fought side 
by side with the Wehrmacht.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)


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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.rights.human
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Greeks started slaughtering the Turkish Cypriots.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 11:01:06 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct10.022247.117@wuecl.wustl.edu> tpd1@cec1.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David) writes:

>They were misleaded by Turkey and prefered to live under third world 
>standards. As an Italian reporter put it recently:

This joke will open the skies to mankind. While there is a new world
order emerging, to turn around and ask the Turkish Republic of Northern 
Cyprus (TRNC) to dance with an old world tune would not solve any 
problems. Who is ready to claim that 'Greek Cypriots' are not hating 
the 'Turkish Cypriots?' Insisting on not recognizing the TRNC as a 
separate republic and push them to get together with Greek Cypriots
is no different than asking each and every one of the new republics 
of old Soviet Union, Croatia and Slovenia in Yugoslavia to go back 

Source: Statement made by Mr. Evangelos Yannopoulus - the Greek Minister
	of Maritime Affairs, ELEFTHEROTIPIA, July 4, 1988

       "The two myths in Cyprus must be exposed as lies. The first myth 
	is the case of missing persons and the second is the myth of the 
	invasion of Cyprus by Turkey. The Greek Cypriots presented as 
	missing persons were actually the victims who were killed during 
	the Sampson Coup. As regards the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey, it 
	was the Greek military that staged the coup and toppled Makarios 
	at a time when he was an internationally recognized President of 
	Cyprus. How is it possible to topple Makarios and start slaughtering 
	the Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots and impose a mad man like 
	Sampson to head the Cyprus Government and yet expect no reaction 
	from Turkey?"

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: aozoglu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Adem Ozoglu)
Subject: crypt program..
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:08:00 GMT



I need a CRYPT program which the system (Ultrix-32 V4.1) I am working with doesn't have one. 
If anyone can send me a crypt program, I appreciate it....

E_mail:
          aozoglu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
          OR
          ozhandan@franklin.edu
From: TEX5HAD@CMS1.LEEDS.AC.UK (Haluk DEMIRBAG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Yeni listeler: KiMYA-L ve CEVRE-L
Date: 15 Oct 1992 15:40:15 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 15:16:50 BST
From: Cengiz Yatmaz <H.C.Yatmaz@UK.AC.NEWCASTLE>
Subject: KiMYA-L listesi..

ITU listserv inde Kimya, Kimya Muhendisligi ve benzeri alandaki konularda
tartisma amaciyla  KiMYA-L  adiyla bir liste acilmistir..

Listeye katilmak icin :

SUB KIMYA-L   adiniz soyadiniz

mesajini  LISTSERV@TRITU.EARN
adresine gonderin..

Cikmak icin ise :

SIGNOFF KIMYA-L mesajini yine  LISTSERV@TRITU.EARN  adresine gondermeniz
gerekiyor..
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:26:41 TSI
From: Olcay Akgun <OLCAY@EARN.TRITU>
Subject: CEVRE-L

ITU listserv inde CEVRE-L adli, cevre sorunlari konusunda tartismalarin
yapilabilecegi bir liste acilmistir.
Bu listeye uye olmak icin:
SUB  CEVRE-L  ad soyad
komutunu LISTSERV AT TRITU adresine gondermeniz yeterlidir.

Selamlar ve sevgiler
Listowner
Olcay Akgun
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From: bent@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Multiple postings
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:57:48 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Distribution: world
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

To sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic):

	I apologize for not writing you privately; my system does not 
access UU.net.  I have few qualms with what you post; however, would you 
please refrain from posting so many commentaries?  I am not referring to 
cross-postings.

				Benjamin Tanner 
						
			     bent@yang.earlham.edu                                     
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: They are witnessing the exodus of Turks from the villages.
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 22:48:39 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct8.234906.27883@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:

>	Or Bosnians from Yougoslavia or ... But I garantee that this Sadi 
>character wil not answer logicaly. Actualy for a while I thought that he 
>was Mutilu renamed but the truth may be that he is actualy corsar. 

Yet another looney howling in the wind. Well, any comment?

 Peter Moorhead reporting from the village of Skyloura, Cyprus. 
 Date : 1 January, 1964. 

 IL GIARNO (Italy)
 
 THEY ARE TURK-HUNTING, THEY WANT TO EXTERMINATE THEM.

 Discussions start in London; in Cyprus terror continues. Right now we
 are witnessing the exodus of Turks from the villages. Thousands of people
 abandoning homes, land, herds; Greek Cypriot terrorism is relentless. This 
 time, the rhetoric of the Hellenes and the bust of Plato do not suffice to 
 cover up barbaric and ferocious behaviors.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Turkish community in Sacramento
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:15:20 GMT
Reply-To: armagan@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems

I would like to know if there is a Turkish-American Association in
Sacramento, California. How big is the Turkish Community there? I need this
information for a couple who are moving to Sacramento. Please, send your
responses to me by e-mail. Thanks.

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 ARMAGAN A. OZDINC
 Paramax Systems, Valley Forge Labs, Research and Development
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: A self-admitted racist x-Soviet Jew in action.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 18:21:39 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <718312590@locust.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener) writes:

>      I have never exchanged e-mail with you, Damir.  This is
>      a figment of your degenerate imagination.  I received your

Why should one believe a compulsive liar? Numerous articles in major 
newspapers (London Times) and periodicals (Newsweek) during the war, 
had suggested the existence of a significant collaboration between 
Armenians and the Nazis. Arthur Derounian deserves credit for being 
the first person to deal with this issue extensively. Derounian's 
motives were twofold: his deeply held democratic convictions gave 
him a sense of duty and he felt obliged to shed light on this yet 
another dark chapter of Armenian history.  Concurrently, Derounian 
embarked on what one would call 'crisis control' or face-saving. In 
order to forestall any potential attacks on the larger Armenian community 
in the United States, he marginalized collaboration as deplorable but 
insignificant.[1]

[1] John Roy Carlson (real name Arthur Derounian), 'The Plotters,'
    E. P. Dutton & Company, Inc., New York 1946, p. 182.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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From: sadi@physics3 (Sadi Turgut)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Typical Greek Foreign Policy
Date: 9 Oct 1992 05:06:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics3.berkeley.edu
Summary: spoiled child of Europe, Cradle of Intrigue
Keywords: Display Determination, NATO, Warsaw

 The Greek government is not participating in the Display
Determination exercises since May 8th, 1981. The Greek
reasoning is a childish attempt to legalize the re-militarization
of the islands within NATO at least, in spite of the
international treaties that clearly bind them. They
demand that the island of Lemnos should be included
within the exercises since it is completely armed.
However, NATO, determined not to yield to the childish
games of the Greek government, has proclaimed the island
as a disputed area and has excluded the island from the
exercises. In response to this decision, the Greek government,
totally forgetting the responsibilities within NATO,
is boycotting the exercises. This should come as no surprise,
since, Greece has always considered NATO as a toy in their
foreign relations. After all, it was the same Greece that
tried to obstruct the Spanish enterance to NATO, fortunately
achieving little besides annoyance.

 And of course, it was the same Greece that declared in 1984,
(during the years the cold war was still ensuing,)
that there is no threat from Warsaw pact, which by itself
should be sufficient to draw suspicions about the intention
of Greece as a member of NATO. And, it was the same Greece
that could lower itself in such a way as to seek an anti-Turkish
alliance within Warsaw pact, and to sign a "non-aggression"
declaration. Given such a history of intrigue, perhaps one
should ask why NATO needs Greece anyway.

 In fact, when you look at the foreign relations of Greece
you will see a series of games reminding a spoiled child,
the last one being objections to the name of a foreign
country. Surely, what the foreign policy of Greece needs is
a little bit maturity. Otherwise, the spoiled child will
gradually become very isolated.

 Sadi Turgut (A barbarian as usual.)
-- 
  The Greeks have survived in spite of all the world could
do against them, and all they could do against themselves.
              --Sir Winston Churchill
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Turkey Conducts Air Raids
Date: 9 Oct 1992 11:40:50 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

TURKEY CONDUCTS AIR RAIDS ON TURKISH KURDS IN IRAQ

    10/9/92, ZAKHO, IRAQ--Turkish jets and artillery have
joined Iraqi Kurds in a 5-day offensive to dislodge Turkey's
Kurdish rebels from northern Iraq, officials on the
attacking side claimed Thursday.
    Turkish Defense Minister Nevzat Ayaz confirmed his jet
fighters attacked camps of the rebel Kurdistan Workers
Party, or PKK, according to Turkey's Anatolia news agency.
    Ayaz said F-104s and F-4s flew more than 25 sorties over
2 days from bases in southeastern Turkey, adding that Turkey
would continue its help for as long as the Iraqi Kurds
request it, Anatolia reported.
    State Department spokesman Richard Boucher in Washington
defended the raids, saying the U.S. ''supported the Turkish
government in its efforts to fight against terrorism.''
    Sunday, Iraqi Kurds began attacking the rebel Turkish
Kurds, who seek autonomy from Turkey.
    More than 5,000 people have died in the 8-year guerrilla
fight.
    Iraqi Kurds resent the guerrillas' presence in northern
Iraq because Turkish military actions against them cause
civilian casualties.
    The Iraqi Kurds also are anxious not to alienate Turkey
because the Western force protecting northern Iraq from
Saddam Hussein's army uses Turkish bases. Turkey also is a
crucial source of supplies and transit route for the area of
northern Iraq under their control.
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Typical Greek Foreign Policy
Keywords: Display Determination, NATO, Warsaw
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:10:32 GMT
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW

> Surely, what the foreign policy of Greece needs is
>a little bit maturity. Otherwise, the spoiled child will
>gradually become very isolated.

	What you mean like Turkey is in regard to how it handles 
the Cyprus problem or the Kurdish problem. In few occasions has a country
been so isolated like Turkey. All UN reports blame Turkey (Oh the rest of
the world is wrond sorry) You are so blind only pity is what you need.
And that's what your country is getting.
	George
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Greek Logic
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 17:59:01 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <schoinas.718399218@cs.wisc.edu> schoinas@fox.cs.wisc.edu (Yannis Schoinas) writes:

>Why not? I don't really understand what's your problem with these terms.

A joke? The problems in Cyprus have their origin in decades of 
oppression of the Turkish population by the Greek Cypriot 
officials and their violation of the co-founder status of 
the Turks set out in the constitution. The coup d'etat 
engineered by Greece in 1974 to execute a final solution 
to the Turkish problem was the savage blow that invoked 
Turkiye's intervention. Turkiye intervened reluctantly and 
only as a last resort after exhausting all other avenues 
consulting with Britain and Greece as the other two signatories 
to the treaty to protect the integrity of Cyprus. There simply 
was not any expansionist motivation in the Turkish action at 
all. This is in dramatic contrast to the Greek motivation which 
was openly expansionist, stated as 'Enosis,' union with Greece. 
Since the creation of independent Cyprus in 1960, the Turkish 
population, although smaller, legally had status as the co-founder
of the republic with the Greek population.

The Greek Cypriots, with the support of 'Enosis'-minded
Greeks in the mainland, have consistently ignored that
status and portrayed the Island as a Greek island with
a minority population of Turks. The Turks of Cyprus are
not a minority in a Greek Republic and they found the
only way they could show that was to assert their 
autonomy in a separate republic.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Typical Greek Foreign Policy
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:38:50 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <Bw3FCs.HEx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:

> If you think that the living standards in Turkey are better than
> they were one or two years ago, then congratulations for your
> country.  If you think that the perspectives are better, then

When you think of it, it appears that the Turkish side has had all 
the trump cards in his hands and yet it has not won the game so far. 

Source: 'United Nations, Human Development Report,' 1990.

Annual Output Per Person in Dollars Adjusted to Purchasing Power
Parity: Turkiye, Greece and Chile are in the same category. That
is, $3,000 - $5,999. 

Source: 'International Economics: Theory and Policy' by Paul R.
        Krugman and Maurice Obstfeld, Harper Collins Publishers,
        1991, (second edition).

In terms of 'Annual Output Per Person in Dollars Adjusted to 
Purchasing Power Parity,' Greece is in the same category with 
Turkiye.

1. Turkiye is a much larger country than Greece with 57 Million
   people versus 10.2 million Greeks.

2. The Turkish Armed Forces are much stronger than Greek forces.

3. The economy and industry of Turkiye are unquestionably stronger
   than those of Greece.

4. In the Cyprus intervention in 1974, Turkiye had all the treaty
   rights on his side and was fully justified in its actions, and yet
   Greece has manipulated the opinion in the UN and in the U.S. to
   its advantage. The U.S. Congress slapped an arms ambargo on Turkiye
   for several years and the UN recognized only the Greek state of
   Cyprus and not the TRNC. 

5. Gross Domestic Product average annual growth rate: 6.3%

6. GDP average annual growth rate: 5.3%

7. Agriculture average annual growth rate: 3.2% 

8. Industry average annual growth rate: 7.2%

9. Manufacturing average annual growth rate: 7.9%

10. Services average annual growth rate: 7.6%

11. Commercial energy ...

Need I go on?

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)



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