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From: rocky@NeoSoft.com (Joe Mullally)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: HR 4983
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:33:54 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

In article <zt1vr*YO0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.230126.25081@NeoSoft.com>, Joe Mullally writes:
>
>> Of course, I'm not an abortion lover. I am a rights lover. Having rights
>
>Then why don't you love the rights of the baby?

	According to Amendment XIV, section 1, the "baby" you're referring to
is not yet a U.S. citizen. No rights. That's the notion you're introducing
to society- that it IS a person, and SHOULD have rights.

>> 	Tell me, tell me, _who_ is doing the redefining?  We surely did
>
>The pro-abortionists.

	Name 100 anti-abortionists prior to 1800. Name millions of
pro-abortionists (a rose by another name) prior to same. The first request
is extremely difficult. The 2nd is easy. Why?

>Slavery is irrelevant.
>ECL is irrelevant.
*(ECL is English Common Law)

	It's absolutely relevant, especially to your claim that abortion
rights are an invention. Fetal rights are indeed the invention. Again,
I'll admit that you may be right.(-:  I may be a modern-day slave-owner,
unaware that I'm allowing real murders. But pro-life (anti-abortion) is
the human novelty, not pro-choice. Society has been pro-choice. Your
group is trying to change that. Calling ECL "irrelevent" is ignoring
standard procedure for deciding Constitutional issues. Otherwise, prove
it's irrelevant logically, don't just utter it.

>> not proscribe abortion. Who's doing the inventing? I don't mind that you
>> are; in fact, I support it. That's the American way.
>
>No, I'm not.  I'm not the one trying to euphemise abortion into some sort of
>clinical non-event.

	As it has been regarded throughout civilization...

>  The pro-abortionists are the ones who change pro-abortion
>to pro-choice.  They change baby to fetus or parasite or tissue.

	I asked not to play the name game. What the heck is going to
come from it? Nothing. Is that what you want?


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Joe Mullally (rocky@sugar.neosoft.com) PH:713-681-2495
"They say 'David, what shall I do? They wait for me in the hallway'.
I say 'Don't ask me- I don't know any hallways."- David Bowie, "Scary Monsters"
From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Tax suggestion
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:08:55 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

In article <1992Aug18.183140.5410@technology.com> richard@technology.com (Richard Murphy) writes:
>b) If you do earn more than say, $100K/year from investments or whatever
>and do not have any earned income, then no social security check at all.
>Why would you need it?

Because then it turns into a welfare system rather than a retirement
vehicle.  Granted, SS was never intended to be anything more than a
supplement (so I've heard), but if I get out less than I put in, not
because I died early but because I make to much, I think I'm getting
screwed.

Actually, my attitude is such that I doubt I'll ever see anything from
my SS payments - it'll probably have gone belly up by then.  That (and
the fact that the gov't uses the SS surplus to lower the deficit) is
why when I consider how much of my income goes to pay taxes, I include
the SS portion.

Later,
Brendan
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Brendan B. Boerner		Phone: 512/346-8380
Internet: bboerner@novell.com	MHS: bboerner@novell
Please use ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ if replying by mail.
From: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org (Chris Winemiller)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Pro-choice vs. Pro-Life vs. Anti-Abortion (Re: fetus vs. baby)
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:21:32 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: None

boyd@turtle.fisher.com writes:

> In article <T51iPB2w164w@keys.lonestar.org>, cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org
> (Chris Winemiller) writes:
> 
> >            ...  Secondarily, the fact that so many people _are_
> > religious might be evidence that their _is_ something supernatural,
> > outside of all of us.  ...
> 
> Once upon a time a great many people thought the earth was flat, did that
> make it flat?

No.  But your point is misdirected.  A vast number of people believe that
there is something supernatural.  What they _don't_ agree upon is the nature
of that supernatural --- which is the correct parallel to your 'earth is
flat' statement.  To deny spiritual reality is to put yourself in a very
tiny minority in the history of the world, indeed.

Chris

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Chris Winemiller         Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org
                         UUCP    : texsun!letni!keys!cwinemil
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: MONITOR
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:16:31 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


	
Looking for used 15" or 17" SVGA/8514 monitor in good shape.
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    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - D Adams
  - Patrick Taylor
    Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    alternately, exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org
From: edward.tolbert@u2u.lonestar.org (Edward Tolbert)
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: TI-85
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: edward.tolbert@u2u.lonestar.org (Edward Tolbert)
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)

Looking for TI-85 calculator.  EMAIL your asking price.
                                                                        
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: inflatable boat accesories
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:26:53 GMT


  I'm looking for accesories of achillies inflatable boats.  Things like
lauching wheels, sun shade, running lights, seats, boarding ladder ....
Preferably used stuff.  Thanxs



                                   Kris
From: michael.campbell@u2u.lonestar.org (Michael Campbell)
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: NEW 760M FOR ONLY $899!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: michael.campbell@u2u.lonestar.org (Michael Campbell)
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)


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      NEW Maxtor MAX8760S, 676MEG SCSI Hard Drive, $1245.

      NEW Micropolis Model 1588, 760MEG SCSI Hard Drives, ONLY $899!!!!
      (5 year factory warranty).

      Add $21 for second day Shipment!  For C.O.D.'s Cashiers Check
      or Money Orders only.

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From: burris@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (John Burris)
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: Job in Austin
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:49:23 GMT
Reply-To: burris@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (John Burris)
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio


                          JOHN BURRIS
                       144 Lincoln Drive
                     Schertz, Texas 78154
                        (512) 658-0948

OBJECTIVE:  

An engineering position which utilizes my skills in the development of  
software and hardware for fault isolation in electronic circuits using  
automated test equipment .

SUMMARY: 

Experienced in the development of hardware and software for the analysis  
and test of electronic circuitry using a GenRad 1796 test station,  
IEEE-488 peripheral devices, and software tools.  Circuit cards tested  
include digital, analog and mixed-signal circuits, Programmable Devices,  
and Video Generation Circuitry.    

COMPUTER EXPERIENCE : 

C, Pascal, Basic, GenRad 1796 Test Language, DOS, UNIX, NextStep, DEC  
OS-2, ORCAD electronics drafting package and PSpice circuit simulation  
package.

TECHNICAL EXPERIENCE:

Jan. 1991-  ASSOCIATE ENGINEER (ETA Technologies Corporation -  San 
Present     Antonio, Texas)

Analyzed microprocessor-based circuit card schematics, developed a testing   
scheme, developed a test program to implement the scheme, and designed an  
Interface Test Adapter to interconnect a GenRad 1796 test station with  
each circuit card.  Developed a test-station program implementing the  
testing scheme 	using both component modeling and functional test methods.  
Wrote 	documentation for the Air Force explaining test operation  
procedures.    

Instructed engineers in the test station language, configuration, and  
operation.  Reviewed test station programs and debugged if needed.  
Reviewed Test Program documentation for technical accuracy and correct  
format.  

Saved approximately ten-thousand dollars for the company by  
troubleshooting and repairing test station hardware and software. Received  
company award for significant contribution and top production. 

Jan. 1989- CO-OP (Datapoint Corporation - San Antonio, TX.)
May 1989	
Procured parts for both an enhanced ARCNET signaling board and a new Token  
Ring board.  Drafted schematics, using DAISY, to implement design changes  
according to the engineering change orders.  Replaced damaged circuit card  
components.

EDUCATION :
Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering.  The University of Texas at  
San Antonio - 1990.
Newsgroups: tx.wanted,houston.wanted,misc.wanted
From: guri@apogee.sps.mot.com (Gurvinder Singh Ahluwalia)
Subject: GRE Book
Reply-To: guri@apogee.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS - Systems & Network Computing
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:20:11 GMT


I am looking for a reasonably recent edition (say, within the last 
1-2 years) of a GRE preparation book.  Please email or call.

__
Gurvinder
guri@apogee.sps.mot.com
(512) 891-3310 (day: CDT)
Austin, TX

Xref: sparky tx.jobs:309 dfw.general:332
From: evbrown@dfwuug.lonestar.org (Evan Brown)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,dfw.general
Subject: Senior Software/Firmware possition in North Dallas (Recruter)
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:43:19 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Dallas/Ft.Worth UNIX Users Group

A North Dallas has an opening for a senior software/firmware development
person.

For information contact Martha Wood at (214) 248-3344
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
From: evbrown@dfwuug.lonestar.org (Evan Brown)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,dfw.general
Subject: C/UNIX/SYBASE: 10 possitions in North Dallas RECRUITER
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:20:52 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Dallas/Ft.Worth UNIX Users Group

A North Dallas company is looking for up to 10 people with software development
experience using C and SYBASE on a UNIX platform.

For information on these possitions, contact Carig McGinnis 
of Consulting Partners Inc. at (214) 386-7858.
From: Sheryl.Katz@f665.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Sheryl Katz)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: HOT JOBS HOUSTON (recruiter)
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:56:00 GMT

EMPLOYERS REGISTRY
is URGENTLY looking for good 
candidates to fill these HOT JOBS.
 
Call Sheryl @ (713) 272-7377
Resumes can be Faxed to (713) 272-6039 or 
Mailed to Employers Registry
          9898 Bissonnet #520  
          Houston, Tx 77036  
 
ENTRY LEVEL (FRESH GRADS)
Client is seeking a recent college graduate
to work as a Software Engineer.  Small company,
great enviornment. BSEE or BSCS is the key!!
Good GPA, and EXCELLENT communication skills 
are essential.
 
ORACLE - HOUSTON
(MUST HAVE POST UNIVERSITY EXPERIENCE)
Client is seeking a candidate with strong
skills in ORACLE.  Unix Workstation, and
Porting  experience are the keys to this great 
opportunity. Seeking self motivated, team players.
 
SUN ADMINISTRATORS/SOFTWARE ENGINEERS - HOUSTON
(MUST HAVE POST UNIVERSITY EXPERIENCE)
Client is seeking EXPERIENCED administrators
and EXPERIENCED  software engineers (Unix, C, and
X-Windows) for new projects. Porting experience is
a plus. Great opportunity. Great Company.       
 
RS/6000 AIX SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS/SOFTWARE ENGINEERS - HOUSTON
(MUST HAVE POST UNIVERSITY EXPERIENCE)
Client is seeking EXPERIENCED administrators 
and EXPERIENCED software engineers (AIX, C and 
X-Windows) for new projects. Porting experience is
a plus. Great opportunity. Great Company.
 
PROGRAMMER DEC/VMS POWERHOUSE - HOUSTON
Client is seeking a programmenr with a min.
of 3 yrs experience using Powerhouse. Experience 
on with DEC/VMS is also needed. Large firm.
Excellent environment. Good benefits. Non Smoking. 
Xref: sparky tx.jobs:302 dfw.general:320
From: evbrown@dfwuug.lonestar.org (Evan Brown)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,dfw.general
Subject: Senior HP/Apollo Domain Sys Admin needed
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:30:44 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Dallas/Ft.Worth UNIX Users Group

A North Dallas firm is looking for a senior systems administrator with
Apollo Domain/OS SR10.3 experience.

Qualified persons should contact Evan Brown at (214) 519-3577 or
E-mail evan@dfwuug.lonestar.org.
From: Sheryl.Katz@f665.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Sheryl Katz)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: Hot E/L Jobs Houston (recruiter)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:39:10 -0600

OUR CLIENTS ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR RECENT
COLLEGE GRADUATES WITH DEGREES IN THE FOLLING AREAS:
 
COMPUTER SCIENCE
ACCOUNTING
FINANCE
LIBERAL ARTS
BUSINESS
MARKETING
 
IN ORDERE TO QUALIFY, YOU MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE, 
AND A NON-SMOKER
 
PLEASE FAX YOUR RESUME TO EMPLOYERS REGISTRY                           AT
(713)272-6039
WE WILL CALL ALL QUALIFIED APPLICANTS WITHIN ONE WEEK OF 
RECEIVING YOUR RESUME.
 
EMPLOYERS REGISTRY IS A PLACEMENT AGENCY, SPECIALIZING IN
THE PERMANENT PLACEMENT OF PROFFESSIONALS.  
ALL PLACEMENT FEES ARE PAID BY THE EMPLOYER.

Newsgroups: tx.jobs
From: cst@sdf.lonestar.org (Cedric Tung)
Subject: C, dBase IV, SQL
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Distribution: texas
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:41:34 GMT

Integrated Office Systems is helping a client to find a programmer to help
in developing software for there billing system. The current system requires
working knowledge of dBaseIV and R&R Reporting.

We are currently redesigning the system to migrate to a client server
environment. The new environment will require knowledge of 'C' and SQL. The
work environment is very diverse, thus requiring skills in communicating with
users, developing user interfaces, and developing algorithums. The applications
developed will include, inventory control, billing, accounting, and marketing.

Basic experience in these areas can include University training. You may send
your response via e-mail to cst@sdf.Lonestar.ORG, fax:(214)596-6884, or
P.O. Box 795368, Dallas, TX. 75379-5368.

Cheers,
Cedric Tung
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,alt.jobs,misc.jobs.offered,dfw.general,comp.sys.hp
From: jwoods@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Jeff Woods)
Subject: opening for Systems Engineer in Richardson, TX (Dallas suburb)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:05:38 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX
Followup-To: tx.jobs

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CompuTrac, a developer of vertical market accounting and financial
management software, is experiencing explosive growth.  The following
position is now available:

		      Systems Engineer

This position will be responsible on-site hardware and software setup,
installation and operating system training for HP9000/HP-UX systems.
Additional responsibilities will encompass providing telephone support
for HP-UX and LAN problems.  The ideal candidate will possess:

	* 3 years Unix systems experience (HP-UX preferred)
	* 1 to 2 years LAN setup and administration experience
	* Professional appearance, demeanor and attitude
	* Freedom to travel
	* Excellent communication skills

CompuTrac is a fast growing, American Stock Exchange company with 120
employees.  We offer competitive salaries and incentive programs, a
full range of benefits, 401(K), and stock option.  Please send resume
to CompuTrac, Inc., 222 Municipal Drive, Richardson, TX  75080, 
Attn: Sharon Sauls/Tech.  Phone calls or faxes will not be honored.
Principals only.  An equal opportunity employer.
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Please include a comment indicating where you read this and my name.
-- 
Jeff Woods    214/235-7161 x3180    jwoods@cmptrc.lonestar.org
CompuTrac, Inc.   222 Municipal Drive, Richardson, TX  75080-3539
stdinfo: "My opinions are my own."
From: John.Bright@f665.n106.z1.fidonet.org (John Bright)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: Permanent or Contract Programming Position wanted.
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:36:40 GMT

This is my first time on this board.  I am a Foxbase/Foxpro programmer analyst
seeking either a permanent or contract position.  I possess 1.5 years of
experience in Foxbase + and 2.5 years of experience with Foxpro including some
experience with Foxpro 2.0.  In addition, I possess extensive Accounting
experience.  I have provided technical support for my own software and industry
packaged software.  I possess extensive client contact, and I am willing to
travel.  To reply please call John at 364-8932, or please leave E-Mail.
From: John.Bright@f665.n106.z1.fidonet.org (John Bright)
Newsgroups: tx.jobs
Subject: If you are interested in making $, please call 621-7742.
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:12:08 GMT

Judy,
I am interested in your money making opportunity.  Please leave E-Mail.
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,dfw.jobs
From: jmaddox@dbaix.oc.com (John Maddox)
Subject: Contract Programmer needed - fam. w/HP MPE, ASK, and INFORMIX 4GL
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX
Distribution: dfw
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:51:09 GMT

	Contractor, familiar with HP MPE Operating System and ASK
	as well as Informix 4GL to write programs to upload data to
	ASK from RS/6000 as well as Informix 4GL programs on RS/6000.

	This is a temporary project. We are interested in people who
	currently reside in or near the Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex ONLY,
	please.

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DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT...

Reply To:

Barbara M. Rush		OpenConnect Systems, Inc.
barb@hp835.oc.com	2033 Chennault
			Carrollton, TX  75019
214-490-4090  (voice)
214-490-7234  (fax)
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From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:33:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Aug17.234911.7523@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>>Frankly I'ed wish for a interactive forum for classifieds in the local news
>>paper.  It would get rid of all those people trying to sell XT's for
>>1000.00 dollars.
>
>If someone sells XTs for $1,000.00, and someone thinks that's a good deal,
>why should you interfere?  Again, if the price is too high, the product 
>won't sell.  Apple knows this.  Compaq knows this (a painful lesson, too).
>IBM is learning this.  

Get real.  We are not dealing with a market economy here.  Just a 
greedy seller trying to pass off his goods at a high price to some
gullible buyer.  If somebody thinks that is incorrect or unfair, he
could and probably should speak out against it.

>
>Daryl
>--
>Daryl Biberdorf                 |  Compaq Computer Corporation | standard
>darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com |  20555 SH 249  M/S 060701    | disclaimer
>dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu         |  Houston, TX 77070           | applies

Suresh
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:00:31 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug17.234911.7523@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:

>>Frankly I'ed wish for a interactive forum for classifieds in the local news
>>paper.  It would get rid of all those people trying to sell XT's for
>>1000.00 dollars.

>If someone sells XTs for $1,000.00, and someone thinks that's a good deal,
>why should you interfere?  Again, if the price is too high, the product 
>won't sell.  Apple knows this.  Compaq knows this (a painful lesson, too).
>IBM is learning this.  

If he wants to save someone from getting stuck with these for $1000, then
why should you interfere?

Note to origional seller:  I got about $300 for one of these.  That's 
probably what you'll end up settling for.
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    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - D Adams
  - Patrick Taylor
    Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    alternately, exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org
From: dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:11:10 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Aug18.083338.11505@tamsun.tamu.edu> peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.234911.7523@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>>>Frankly I'ed wish for a interactive forum for classifieds in the local news
>>>paper.  It would get rid of all those people trying to sell XT's for
>>>1000.00 dollars.
>>
>>If someone sells XTs for $1,000.00, and someone thinks that's a good deal,
>>why should you interfere?  Again, if the price is too high, the product 
>>won't sell.  Apple knows this.  Compaq knows this (a painful lesson, too).
>>IBM is learning this.  
>
>Get real.  We are not dealing with a market economy here.  Just a 
>greedy seller trying to pass off his goods at a high price to some
>gullible buyer.  If somebody thinks that is incorrect or unfair, he
>could and probably should speak out against it.

We aren't dealing with a market economy here?!  Sheesh!  It sure isn't
red China!

As for "gullible buyers", I think John Kane said he ultimately received
$800 for his merchandise -- that's only 20% off from the original price.
Not too bad in the world of Usenet haggling.

And who determines what is "incorrect" or "unfair" in the world
of prices?  You?  The net.secret.shopper?  The Clarinet price lists?
Do you think Neiman Marcus or Saks Fifth Avenue is gouging people
because they charge more than Wal-Mart?  Have you ever started
a campaign to accuse the aforementioned stores of gouging?
If you didn't, why not? 

Daryl
-- 
Daryl Biberdorf  N5GJM    dlb5404@rigel.tamu.edu  or  dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu
        "You're not messy.  You're organizationally impaired."
                _Real_Life_Adventures_, July 3, 1992
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:11:35 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Aug18.141110.25157@tamsun.tamu.edu> dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:

>We aren't dealing with a market economy here?!  Sheesh!  It sure isn't
>red China!

Daryl, one of the assumptions in a 'free market' is 'perfect
information' on the part of both buyers and sellers.  Why do you
object so strongly to someone making information to buyers available? 


-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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