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From: Alan Rowoth <alan@lpl.org>
Subject: Re: How does on set up Internet Access?
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21: 15:50 GMT
Organization: Liverpool Public Library
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:17:46 GMT

How does one set up Internet Access?

One way is using a software called First Class BBS and a UUCP gateway software
called Postal Union. You can get more info on these products from:

Information Electronics	
Tom	Clodfelter			
607-868-3331	office
607-868-3393	bbs	
607-868-3333	fax	
INFOELECT@ie.com

I just bought both to replace our Quickmail/Internet gateway and there is a
lot of power and versatility here. It's pretty slick stuff and it works now. 

good luck,
Alan Rowoth
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From: edb9140@tamsun.tamu.edu (   XXX)
Subject: Re: how to set up an Internet node.
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:04:14 GMT

I would like some info also,  thanks

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Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Justification for commercial access to INTERNET facilities?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:00:33 GMT

poole@chsun.chuug.ch (Simon Poole) writes:

>merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:

>: What is your thinking as a consumer / supplier of INTERNET services?

>You are very confused with respect to the structure and funding of the
>current "Internet". It is correct that some important networks comprising
>the "Internet" are government funded (the NSFnet for example), but all 
>serious commercial providers (CIX members for example) will try to avoid 
>using such infrastructure for transit traffic.

As a commercial site, I pay rather substantial fees to my service
provider, who in turn has agreements with the NSF, et al.  Those
agreements not only include routing outside of NSF facilities,
whenever possible, but also include paying the NSF 'royalties'
for traffic that uses those routes.

For the most part, it's a non-issue.  Those sites that do abuse the
'system' don't last very long.

Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: cmb@bluemoon.use.com (Chris Bugosh)
Subject: 614 (Columbus, Ohio) Areacode FTP?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:33:21 EST

Are there any sites in the 614 area code that will allow me to FTP
from them?  All files received will be deleted as soon as they're on
my machine, so no loss in disk space.  Thanks.

Chris

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From: rmorales@dit.upm.es (Rodolfo M. Gonzalez)
Subject: how to set up an Internet node.
Organization: UUES, Asociacion de Usuarios de UNIX, Spain
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:00:22 GMT


	Please, answer me too.

			- Rodolfo.

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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Stop lights
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:42:27 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <23941@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:

>What I really hate is when you're stopped at a stoplight because it's red,
>the other side is green, and absolutely nobody is on the other side.
>Why should you have to wait for the light to change?????????????

I'm fairly sure it used to be the case in the UK that traffic lights were 
advisory, so you could go through if you wanted, but it left you open to a 
charge of 'driving without due care and attention' or one of the similar 
offences.  However I believe they've changed this so it's now always illegal 
to go through a red light, unless you're driving an emergency vehicle.
Oh well.



  From the UK phone book Yellow Pages:  BORING - see Civil Engineers   

  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
From: kovarik@martha.utcc.utk.edu (StMeechTheThwacked)
Subject: Re: alt.suicide.fantasy.interpretation, anyone?
Organization: Just a few more inches......
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:31:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.230121.1800@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>
>that's interesting. again, i'm angstful about being completely the opposite to
>anyone i know..i'm terrified of losing my keys. of course, part of it is the
>$2000+ fine associated with having to rekey the entire observatory, along with
>kitt peak, the MMT, and mount lemmon, but part of it is just irrational...i
>won't be able to get into my house, i'll be left out in the cold (yeah, it's 
>only 68f here, heh), and so on...
>
>so i always keep 'em in my pocket. along with my knife.
>

So they should go to a keycode system, a unique sequence of digits assigned
to each person who works there.  Just like a bank card PIN.  But then again,
even that you can lose.  A gallon or two of the best Tennessee rotgut, 
a few brain cells toasted, and it's gone.....  Or worse, you could 
mumble it to someone under the influence, and not remember doing so, and 
shortly thereafter, discover that the telescope has disappeared 
overnight.  :-) :-)


					Meech
From: kath@pico.dr.att.com (54626-LeeK(DR1971)210)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: minor angst for the day
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:14:50 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1ei8smINNcps@aludra.usc.edu>, rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ronald Hogan) writes:
|> Eric Middlecamp writes:
|> >In article <1efdgqINN7n3@aludra.usc.edu>  writes:
|> >[major angst deleted]
|> 
|> On top of everything else, now I'm known as 1efdgqINN7n3.
|> Just when I was starting to feel better.
|> 
|> ObAngst:  What does it mean when you dream your brother robs an office
|> building to steal back the drugs that were confiscated by a pharmatheutical
|> (is that spelled right?) company, is confronted by the police, shoots two
|> and plunges a switchblade in the chest of another-- when that knifing is
|> seen as a still image in the style of a Norman Rockwell painting?  Is this
|> anywhere near what other people's dream activity is like?  Or am I the only
|> person in the world who dreams in Rockwell?
|> 
|> Ron

	was the knife very shiny and silver?  if so it is probably the
	same knife that appears in my dream.  
		someone is chasing me and i can't quite open my eyes
	all the way to see where i'm running to, and i'm running as
	though my feet were made of lead.  finally he? chases me into
	a corner and i'm crouched down and this hand comes into my
	reduced vision area and it's holding a big shiny knife, so i
	bite the hand and i end up with this huge mouthful of human
	flesh which feels alot like i imagine a raw chicken leg would
	feel, ech.  and then they drop the knife and i wake up.
		so i didn't answer your question but i got that off my
	chest anyway. i've had this dream sporadically since i was 4
	years old.

		kath
	experiencing alot of angst of late
From: horace@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Dreamseeker)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Stop lights
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:49:43 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

   Can I introduce you to my parents?


					Love,      



                                             The pale one


Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: pcurtis@willamette.edu (Paul E. Curtis)
Subject: Romance/Angst
Keywords: *cry*
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:11:06 GMT

I just posted this to alt.romance.chat, but upon rereading it, I've realized
that it's angstful enough to deserve reposting here.  Enjoy.

In article <722381503kai.kai@depeche.toppoint.de> kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt) writes:
>
>It's now 21:30 over here in Germany and I'm sitting at home
>doing homework. I mean it's WEEKEND and the only thing
>I can think of is how to finish these mountains of papers
>till monday :-(
>
>I hope your weekend is more funny than mine. But what are
>you doing on Saturday night? Are you staying at home with
>your family? Do you go to discos, cinemas, restaurants
>or what? Let us now!

Well, lessee...

I spent most of today lying in bed.  I woke up a few minutes ago to come down
to the university computer lab, to work my five-hour shift as a lab assistant.
This entails baking my brains underneath the flourescent lights, punctuated
with occasional questions from those lab users kind enough to acknowledge my
existence.  When my shift is over at 23:00, I'll go home (I live alone) and
watch TV for a couple of hours.  Then I'll log into the school's computer
every fifteen minutes or so, hoping against hope for some electronic mail to
arrive in my box (it won't).   The last few weeks, I've been getting to sleep
around 5:00, and I don't see why tonight should be any different.

Tomorrow, I might do any number of things.  I could go on a joyride around the
state of Oregon.  Alone.  I could drive up to Portland and shop for books. 
Alone.  I could go to the laundromat and wash my clothes.  Alone.  I could do
what I've been thinking of doing for months--go to the airport, plunk down my
credit card, and buy a ticket to some faraway place where American Express
won't find me after I fail to pay the bill (I'm thinking of Togo--American
passport holders don't need a visa to go there, and the yellow fever
certificate which I got for my African travels of a few months ago [alone] is
still valid, so I shouldn't have any problems).  Needless to say, alone.

I'd say my social life is in a shambles, except that I haven't got one.

Apparently, it's not that I'm unattractive (although my pupils are dilated
from the 20 milligrams of Prozac I take daily, for my dysthymia), or
unhygenic, or unkind (I'm told that I'm a very compassionate man, and
sometimes I belive it), or unintelligent, or uninteresting (I do tend to be
pretty colorful, when I'm not feeling sorry for myself), or anything like
that.  What I am, apparently, is unapproachable.  Almost nobody realizes how
fuzzy and affectionate this kitty really is, beneath his sarcastic, mocking
exterior.  I have a total of two close friends.  In my nearly 20 years of
existence, I've never been anybody's best friend.  Nobody has ever sent me
flowers.

And I am alone.

* * * * *

Sorry to inject so much angst into what is usually such a happy newsgroup.

						--Paul Curtis

* * * * *

P.S.  to angsters:  Betcha never thought you'd see a message from a.r.c. in
this newsgroup, eh?  <cynical grin>

**back to lurking**
From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Is this love, or just a dead heart??
Date: 19 Nov 1992 00:39:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, kovarik@martha.utcc.utk.edu (StMeechTheThwacked) says:

>In article <1eek6qINNm3s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy) writes:
>>
>>In a previous article, smolin@physics.ucla.edu (Smolin) says:
>>>In article <1992Nov18.054919.3206@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@martha.utcc.utk.edu (StMeechTheThwacked) writes:
>>
>>>>Back when I was younger, if I met a woman, my enthusiasm and expectations
>>>>would accelerate to warp drive.  Now I just say: "I'll wait and see."
>>>>I'm too tired of it all.  
>>>
>>>This is the most angstful thing I've read in this newsgroup so far.  When even
>>>love fails to be exciting that is when things start looking really bad.  
>>>[...]
>>
>>I agree!  Love should renew your faith a bit, accelerate your brain, put you 
>>back in touch with your universe.
>>
>>Jeez.  If you can't get excited about love you might as well just shoot
>>yourself now and get it over with... :)
>
>Ain't nothin' in my Universe but blacktop and roadkill.  Maybe I've
>been in Tennessee too long.....


I'd say!  You'd best flee that state, afore you slip over the edge of
the waterfall!


-Jeanne

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tz10956@meibm17.cen.uiuc.edu (Thomas Zych)
Subject: Re: Random thoughts on a grey morning.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:20:14 GMT

jpatters@willamette.edu (Jane Patterson) writes:

>Slow, dull pain sleeps in my head. Never stirring, never intense, just a
>constant presence. It reminds me always of how little control one can
>actually have. As Lyle Lovett said, "Life is so uncertain." But I just
>wish for some definition . . . a direction, something to strive for.
>Clear thinking I have, creativity is gone - and what good is logic and
>rationality when there is nothing to accomplish?

>I can just see the tombstone" A woman who never found her purpose"


>And I sigh and go back to  letting the information of the world stream
>over me in hopes of finding what it is I am supposed to be doing.

Whenever I feel like this, I pick up my Far Side collection and look up 
'Edgar finds his Purpose'.  Pretty corny, I know, but the point is, how do you
recognize your purpose when you find it?  In Gary Larson's mind, it's a funny
little object hiding behind the seat cushion.  In reality, it's a lot harder to
recognize.  Maybe you can try looking for a purpose rather than a PURPOSE.  I
mean, look for some little goal, some small accomplishment you can achieve.
Then move on to another, and another.  Eventually, you may happen across your
PURPOSE, your huge, lifetime goal, but until then at least you'll have plenty
of intermediary marks to aim for...

Dunno if this will help you or not.  It won't completely erase that dull pain,
but it will lessen it somewhat.  A step in the right direction, maybe...


>Back to lurking...

For me as well...

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From: fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: minor angst for the day
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:24:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University

In <1efdgqINN7n3@aludra.usc.edu> rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ronald Hogan) writes:


>ps-- I ended up cooking the wine in soy sauce and my dinner companion thought

That must have had an interesting flavor.

-- 
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From: b645zhy@utarlg.uta.edu (Mark Luckstead)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Stop lights
Summary: Why should I be held up by antinomians?
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:17:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <23941@galaxy.ucr.edu>, judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes...
>What I really hate is when you're stopped at a stoplight because it's red,
>the other side is green, and absolutely nobody is on the other side.
>Why should you have to wait for the light to change?????????????
> 
What I hate is when my light changes to green, but I have to keep waiting 
for the antinomians who are running their red lights.  -- Mark Luckstead.
From: rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ronald Hogan)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: learning to hurt
Date: 18 Nov 1992 23:00:12 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <83863@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:

>i don't want to live like this. i want to learn how to accept pain and
>loss, deal with it, then move on to the next thing in my life. i don't
>wanna ride this crisis cycle forever. i'm just not sure where to
>start.

That's the worst part for me-- the knowledge that one is responding in an
emotionally dysfunctional way to something that isn't even really a crisis
by any means, knowing that one should be able to get on with one's life, but
just not knowing how.

With me, it's not so much running for nurturing and comfort as brooding,
contemplating what a stupid, fucked-up situation I've created, realizing
that it's irrevocable but wanting to go back and fix it anyway.  I gave up
looking for comfort (for the most part) when it wasn't really there, and
when I realized it wasn't solving my problem.

Of course, I don't think this is the solution you're looking for, deb.
I know it isn't the one I'm really looking for.

Ron
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: minor angst for the day
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:03:45 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1efdgqINN7n3@aludra.usc.edu>  writes:
[major angst deleted]

Good grief.
From: v026ltr5@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: about 'naked' nightmares
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <kwi.29@postman.hsn.no>, kwi@postman.hsn.no (KLAUS WILLIAM WIK)
writes...
>I bathed in below zero'C/32'F water, Ice still drifting by.(icecream stick 
>to my string)

I don't know much about physics, but is it POSSIBLE to have water
below 0C? I hate to nitpick someone else's angst (okay... actually,
I love it), but I have to know the answer on this one.

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From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Is this love, or just a dead heart??
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:21:32 GMT
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Originator: sokay@cyclone


Somehow, I'm under control
Should I be?
Normally by this time I'm paranoid, nervous, angstful, and cringing from the
inevitable rejection that is sure to come....
But I'm also happy, racing up through the sky, headed for orbit as fast as 
I can get there. You have to get sufficient altitude you know if you're
going to plummet back to reality......

But not this time. She's great, I like her a lot,even starting to care about
her, but there's no sound of engines warming up in the back of my head,
no rush of adrenaline, no obsessive thoughts, no crying, no endless checking
for email or anything like that...just lots of thoughts, ideas, images,etc.
but none of the tyranny of emotion that has always been stock standard for
me at times like this.
Am I actually in control of my feelings this time, or have they been so 
stomped on and beat out of me that I don't even have them anymore.....?

---Steve 
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: about 'naked' nightmares
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:48:38 GMT

v026ltr5@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty) writes:

>In article <kwi.29@postman.hsn.no>, kwi@postman.hsn.no (KLAUS WILLIAM WIK)
>writes...
>>I bathed in below zero'C/32'F water, Ice still drifting by.(icecream stick 
>>to my string)
>I don't know much about physics, but is it POSSIBLE to have water
>below 0C? I hate to nitpick someone else's angst (okay... actually,
>I love it), but I have to know the answer on this one.

Yes. Definitely possible. Now, I guess your question was "Is it possible
to have liquid water below 0C?" :) The answer to that is yes. You can cool
water to about -4C, and when you stir it, it instantly gets an ice-block.
Works only as an experiment (because in nature, you do not have a jar with
extra-smooth surfaces to put the water in :).
Of course, you can get water below 0C if you add some salt (i.e. sea water).
And you could get it below 0C by ... I think ... decreasing air pressure.

Soenke
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From: sdstpk@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (the bearded one)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: learning to hurt
Date: 18 Nov 1992 13:39:27 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:

>i'm an emotional hypochondriac.
[..]
>[..] of course, having a crisis
>means permission to call people and get support and love. the concept
>of calling someone and saying "hey, i just wanted to talk to you
>because you're cool and i like you" and having no *reason* for the
>call is foreign. (i think it's a self-esteem thing. i'm only important
>enough for you to talk to if i have a big problem making me
>important.)
[..]
>i don't want to live like this. i want to learn how to accept pain and
>loss, deal with it, then move on to the next thing in my life. i don't
>wanna ride this crisis cycle forever. i'm just not sure where to
>start.

Wow.  I wish I could express myself in language like you can.  I thank you
for expressing this situation as it seems to have triggered my "hey... yeah...
that's it" button.  I was trying to figure out what was wrong, but I guess
it takes a trip through a newsgroup now and then to catch on ><  Craxy...
Also, if you figure out where to start, drop me a line.

Thanks...

-Stephen

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