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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Unix for the masses, was Re: C= (Sweden) does things right!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:59:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.130021.28455@ifi.uio.no> stigo@ifi.uio.no (Stig Arne Olsen) writes:
>Yeah, I really don't understand why C= does not jump into the low-end
>Unix market. Noone would expect them to beat Sun/Hp/Dec, but if they
>could release low-priced Unix/X-solutions, I'm sure there would be
>a lot of intereset among students etc. It would also allow Amiga-users
>to develop software for an widespread OS that might even become (or
>already is) as large as the ms-dos market. As for software there is
>already a lot of gnu and other freely distributable software that
>could ship with the OS.

   The problem is that Commodore has not been able to put together Amiga UNIX
systems with hardware good enough to be called a workstation and costs low
enough for them to be able to undercut everybody else.  In order for an Amiga
to be usable as a UNIX system, Commodore has to include A2024 monitors or
'Unlowell' graphics cards that are expensive to manufacture and do not have
very much bang for the buck.

   Now if Commodore had designed into the AA chipset some high-resolution
non-interlaced display modes on the order of 1280x1024 or higher with limited
color capabilities, Commodore could have been able to push into the low-end
UNIX market with Amiga UNIX systems that are dirt cheap to manufacture and
yet good enough to actually be sellable as UNIX workstations.  But with the
AA chipset having no non-interlaced Productivity-style modes with resolutions
higher than 640x480, they will not be able to do this.  

>Stig A. Olsen  |  stigo@ifi.uio.no  |  "Ja til EF"

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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 & HYPE!
Distribution: world
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Date: 8 Sep 92 19:09:06 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Sep7.022556.14423@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
> >> GVP EGS? Well, it does 1600*1280 in 16M colors too...
> >>
> >
> >Has anyone seen this EGS for real?
>
> 	It was on display at the CBM show in Sydney. Basicaly what you have
> is an accelarator replacing the A2000 68000 and a grafx card replacing the chip set. So You are buying another computer minus the keayboard.
>

Tell us more.  Did it truly run workbench?  What resolution were they demoing it in?  How big
a monitor?  Etc.

> >
> >> --
> >> Jarkko Lindblad
> >> lindblad@cc.helsinki.fi
> >
> 	George
>
>

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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 Specs? Who know
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:03:58 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Sep9.093539.27793@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <gate.LFRqqB1w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us> mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (mr_scary) writes:
>>	People bitch endlessly about how the Amiga is expensive, but when
>>C= tries to reduce the cost on current models (Commodore may be able to get
>>a better discount on IDE drives in their machines since this is probably
>>what their PC products use as well), people bitch anyway.  

>   The irony of the situation with replacing SCSI with IDE is that it probably
>would have been cheaper (at least in the short run) to leave the SCSI subsystem
>there instead of replacing it with a brand-new IDE interface.  Details to
>follow in a week or so.

Not bloody likely.  No matter how you slice it, a SCSI interface is going to 
cost plenty more than an IDE interface.  The main point of IDE is that it should
be approximately free.  Even cheap-ass Mac-like 8-bit PIO SCSI is going to run
you $10 or so for the SCSI controller.  Certainly having both would cost more
than just one, though the IDE cost may be lost in the noise.

IDE on the A600 makes perfect sense.  Not only do you not pay anything for it
(cost is a very important element in any system these days, but particularly
the low end machines), but virtually all the shrink drives that will fit in an
A600 are IDE based, since they were originally designed for PC laptops, all of
which use IDE.  There just isn't room inside an A600 for a full sized drive.

-- 
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From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Subject: Re: Way to go Commodore! Yeah...right.
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:32:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.153710.20705@newshost.unh.edu>, ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>>AGA has ECS compatability built in.  That means developers can write programs
>>to handle both chipsets without much of a hastle in much the way most PC games
>>are written.
>>
>>I don't see why developers couldn't write code that used the AGA chips and
>>still run on an ECS system.
>
>	Why would they bother?  The only Amiga that has the AGA chipset
>  is the A4000.  The Amiga that is truly going to sell well, the A600, still
>  only has the ECS.  Where the heck is Commodores affordable AGA chipset
>  machines??  Do they call the A4000 at over $3000 without a monitor 
>  affordable?
>
>							G.Greene

Well they would bother because there is actually a lot of software 
developers out there making programs which would greatly benefit from the
AGA chipset thereby making them capable of making more money, thus making
new and better software etc, etc, etc.

At least one of the more regarded software companies on the Amiga, Scala 
(former Digital Vision) is developing a new version of their multimedia
package.

From what I've heard from my Amiga dealer this morning parts of the AGA 
compatible SCALA program was shown when they presented the A4000 (just a 
prototype though) on an Amiga fair in Oslo (Norway) Saturday.

From what he told me especially the superimpose function  (well at least that's
what I think it's called) was really amazing when used on 256 color pictures.
According to him it had earlier been impossible to superimpose even 16 color
pictures.


Terje Marthinussen
terjem@stud.cs.uit.no
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From: jandreas@cs.ulowell.edu (Jason Andreas)
Subject: Re: Critical mass getting bigger?
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:16:32 GMT

Little Tidbit:
 
  The person responsible for a good portion if not all (chris?) of the 3d
 routines in Ultima underworld has been working for commodore for the past
 1-2 years. 
  Can't wait for the new graphics.library


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From: stelmack@eggo.tmc.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Date: 5 Sep 92 04:16:31 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

Marc's here now -- Marc, he said Amiga "Links" looks better than the PC
"Links", not better than PC "Links Pro". Two different games, apples and
oranges. We'll need to wait for Amiga "Links Pro" to compare those two.

BTW, the Amiga version of Links is the ONLY golf game I have ever been tempted
to buy, and may still buy yet.

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From: kennyl@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Kenny Leung)
Subject: Re: The Reason Why A3000 Owners Are MAD!
Originator: kennyl@dmsim.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Reply-To: kennyl@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Kenny Leung)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:00:32 GMT


In article <BuLAt2.310@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep14.130753.58868@cc.usu.edu> slbfn@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> >After a great deal of thought, I've decided that the reason
|> >A3000 owners (like myself) are pissed about not compat. AGA
|> >is that we spend the extra damages on the A3000 so our machine's
|> >could be upgraded.  Everything is 32bit except the custom chip
|> >sockets.
|> >
|> >Now, after spending mucho mulanda, we find our machines to be
|> >tossed.  Most of us can appreciate the "tech goes on" philosiphy,
|> >but those of us still in Gold Service (and have many months to
|> >go before warranty is depleted) are quite upset about the loss
|> >of money.  The A4000 will push A3000 prices down quite a bit.
|> 
|> I am really PISSED OFF that AA is NOT COMPATIBLE WITH MY C-64! WHY IS
|> COMMODORE abandoning the early users? WHAT A RIP!!! WE HELPED BUILD
|> COMMODORE and now they LET US DOWN!! WAHHHHHHH! WAHHHHHH!
|> 
|> 
|> mike
|> 
|> P.S. I originally bought my C-64 for $625. Maybe I should sue the bastards
|> and get my money back.
|> 
|> 
|> ;-)
|> 
|> -- 
|> "There is no problem too big that can't be solved with high explosives"-Rush
|> 
|> Mike Smithwick - ames!zorch!mike
|> 

After a great deal of thought, I've decided that the reason Commodore PET
owners (like myself) are pissed about non compatible AGA is that we spend
the extra damages on the PET so our machines could be upgraded. Everything
is 8bit except the cassette tape.

Now after spending mucho mulanda, we find our machines to be tossed ...


(A PISSED-OFFed PET owner :-)
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From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Upgrade path from A3000 -> A4000? Ask at WOC!
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:25:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.173427.20118@nntp.uoregon.edu> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
>    You can't turn a V4 into a V8 by saying you'll add 4 cylinders.

Audi did.
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From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Critical mass getting bigger? - was re: AmigaWorld Lies about Links
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:18:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.043916.8242@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>In article <10667547.146.715822236@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:
>>
>>One Question:
>>
>>Who were the people who developed for the original Amiga 1000?  Back in 
>>1985, when I first got an amiga, there weren't many Amigas around, but I 
>>still could get software.  They found it profitable to produce when there 
>>was much less computers than there is today.  Why wouldn't a company develop 
>
>Because game software makers competed with C64/AppleII makers for games.
>Not Clones.  Clones were lame at games, no?

Your typical PC game in '85 used CGA in 4 colours, ran on an 8088 at 8 MHz
(maybe a NEC V20 if you had a fast machine), came on a single 360k floppy,
and beeped through the internal speaker.  The Amiga had much the same capacity
for games then as it does now - so, yeah, the PC was pretty lame.  C64 users
used to laugh at it.

In any case, the main games competition to the Amiga in '85 was the Atari ST.


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From: petter@pnilsen.UUCP (Petter Nilsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: WB 3.0
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:34:29 GMT
Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmnor!pnilsen!petter@cbmvax.commodore.com
Organization: Ultima Thule Software
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Sep9.051312.13087@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

> 	I have been running WB 39.7, KS 39.97 for about 4 days now.  This

So you have pirated a developer version and dare to say so here ?
Why don't you tell us about your pirated games, utilities etc. while you're
at it ???

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From: danaf@vccsouth20.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Complete A4000/A600/A570 Press Release
Keywords: AA, Display Modes
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:58:20 GMT


So you're saying, independant of the (wonderfully clear...) resolution list you
just gave us, you can stick and number between two and 256 onto ANY resolution
on the list? 1280x400x256, 320x200x256, etc...?

Hmmm.... not bad! I was expecting worse, I must say. When I saw WB 3.0 a while 
ago, the only new mode listed was a wild low-res productivity mode... it was
320x960 interlaced, with 16 colors. WIIILD to look at. Sorta like a crooked 
SuperHiRes.

Ok, Ok, I'm impressed with the # of colors at such hi res. But, as far as 
graphics go, I hold to my complaint about resolution. I`ve always felt that
resolution is more important than color - if you have the resolution, you can
dither in the colors (don't believe it? Take a look at your average laser
printer... that's only TWO colors! Still does grayscale pretty well...). The
Amiga still does not have THE resolution - read: at least 1024x768 or some
equivalent numbers to match IBM, preferably 1280x1024 or something in the 1600s
to TOP IBM. I don't care if it's only 16 colors, it would still make a great
WorkBench!  8)

Also, something I implied in my last A4000 complaint, but did not directly state,
we're still stuck at 2 megs of CHIP. I don't know about other users, but my
FlickerFixed A2000 is running a 16 color HiRes-Interlaced Workbench, with a lot
of stuff chucked into the startup, and by the time my WORKBENCH is up I'm down
to 650K of CHIP!!! (out of 1 meg...)

If I want to run ProPage, it just BARELY fits its 640x400x16(color) screen into
the RAM, and if I want to PRINT I have to take the WB down to 8 colors! 

Running ProPage and ProDraw 3.0 together is absolute HELL - I have to kick the
WB into 2-color HiRes mode and run one of the Pro___ packages in 640x200. 
Imagine if I ALSO wanted to have the Article Editor or ADPro running in the 
background, as it is designed to do!!!!

I heard a rumor a while ago that the AA/AGA chipset would have motherboard space
for 4 megs of chip. My dealer and I agreed that it was not really ENOUGH space,
and that there should be addresses and chip slots for a nice,round 16 megs.
But **TWO MEGS**!?!?!?!?!? And with 256 colors onscreen at some new, 
fair-to-middlin' resolutions!?!?!?!?!? SH*T! I hate Commodore. 

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From: 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG)
Subject: Re: aga chipset for amiga
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:05:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.041220.22281@seas.gwu.edu> gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:

>From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
>glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila) writes:

>>	Somebody mentions that yes, HAM is the only way to get more than
>>256 colors simultaneously with AGA but it is available on all resolutions.
>>But my point was that HAM just isn't useful for much besides looking at
>>still pictures.  For example; can Workbench run in HAM mode?
>
>You need more than 256 colors for Workbench!  I am just curious as to why.
>
>-- Gerald

Perhaps he wants full motion TV pictures going on in the background of his 
Workbench screen? :)  My, wouldn't that be confusing! :) :)

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From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re: Amiga Sucks and Amigoids are Suckers
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:05:42 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <1992Aug31.030512.11722@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery) writes:
>
>
>Amiga:
>     The wost computer ever produced/designed/made. A tasteless creation!

Could be the 'wost', let you know as soon as that's a real word.

Tasteless?  Not at all.  When I kiss my amiga, I have a strong sensation
of strawberries.

>Mac:
>     The best!  Period!!!

The best what?  IMITATION of a real computer?  It's close to that.

>
>IBM:
>     Another Best!   Period!!!

Not EVEN close to a GOOD IMITATION.

>Amiga Owners:
>             Cock Suckers.....tasteless....
>             BIG Period!!!

Maybe YOU know whether those have taste or not... I'll have to
take your word for it.

And yes, you DO sound like you're on a BIG Period.  Oops.. I mean !!!
(BIG Explamation points)

>Amiga SSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSS!!!

Hey... that's CCCCCCCCLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEVVVVVVVEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR.  You
must be in COLLEGE!

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From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: WB 3.0
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:35:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.051312.13087@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>	I have been running WB 39.7, KS 39.97 for about 4 days now.  This

	Get with it! Those are old! I am running WB 39.9876 and KS 77, which
is my grandmother's age by the way!


>Cosmetically:
>* Support for AA chips :)

>* All in all everything seem faster.  Commodities seem to show their
>  interfaces faster and run faster.  I guess the interleaved screens are 
>  part of the AA chip set. Oh well, Amiga screens will flash when
>  scrolling 16 color text, but an IBM XT can do it :(

	This was caused by two new libraries CBM developed. One is the
AA.library, which when installed, gives you 8 bit graphics with a 24 bit 
palette. The other new library is the 68040.library, which makes any
Amiga run at about 20 mips.


>* Why does the rubberband have to have different colors all over the
>  place??  This looks really bad.

>I want a hippie for president..... one that will make Marijuana legal and
>outlaw cigarettes :)

	And you HATE COLOR RUBBERBANDS?!
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From: ESRLPDI@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Ivan Ivanick)
Subject: Re: Amazing Prediction
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:33:38 PDT

In article <1992Sep15.040730.2885@tronsbox.xei.com>, on 15 Sep 1992 04:07:30 GMT,
tron1@tronsbox.xei.com (Kenneth Jamieson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.055437.10772@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ray) writes:
>>  If I were gambling, I'd place my bets on #1, #2, and #3. Marc will bash
>>the AA chipset the hardest since is he has been fairly rabid about
>>graphics capabilities.
>        The fact is that he is right. The A400 and the AA chipset are
>just not good enough to capture a signifigant slice of the PC market.
>--
 The OTHER fact is the 486 and the lack of chipset are just not good
 enough to capture a significant slice of the Video market.

So the Amiga's a niche computer -- just needs a bigger niche is all.

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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: NEW AMIGAS!
Distribution: world
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Date: 4 Sep 92 19:59:10 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

> In article <u894776.715409035@bruny> u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
> >NEW AMIGAS? NO! NEW ARCHIMEDES! FROM THE LOW END TO THE HIGH END!
> >
> >
> >Also feel free to contact me for further information on these machines!
> >
> >PS: I am only posting this for the folks who may have heard about the new
> >amiga machines... and are dissapointed.
> >
> >James McCoull  u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au
>

A4000?  Ho Ho Ho :)

(inside joke)


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From: jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: Medar, Inc.     Farmington Hills, MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:16:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.153612.7650@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.095432.14794@athena.mit.edu> fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
>>|>    You picked out a small detail and argued with it, instead of debating my
>>|> actual point.  My point is that the Amiga is no longer the best game machine 
>>|> around, and probably will never be ever again.  So many 386 systems with SVGA
>>
>>Take a good look at the Subject line you chose.  According to it, you said that
>>AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links.  Well, are you prepared to retract that?
>
>   Not at all.  The fact is, people often lump SVGA and VGA into the generic
>term 'VGA'.

Can you say "back-peddle"?  Thot so.

>             The statement made by the AmigaWorld reviewer makes the reader
>believe that there is no version of Links available for IBM systems that is
>better than the Amiga version.  This is a lie.
>
>>Francis
>
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