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From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Date: 13 Dec 92 04:52:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <184622@pyramid.pyramid.com> ihusain@pyramid.COM (Intisar Husain) writes:
>The heart beat rate of my baby girl went down 3 times (from 140 
>to 50) to make these doctors realise that they should stop using 
>cost-containment measures, and go ahead with the C-section. I am 

Some people complain that Western doctors are too eager to perform
C-sections.

By the way, my wife had a C-section at Kaiser Redwood City at
11 P.M. on July 4th. It was a breech baby and we all think the
C-section was the right thing to do.

-- 
My opinions are my own.
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: flourescent light bulbs, same size and shape as regular bulbs
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:42:03 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: ba

rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:


>I am looking for flourescent light bulbs the same size and shape as
>regular incandescent bulbs. Do such things exist? Where do they sell
>some in the East Bay? (my lamps and things can only fit regular ones)
>-- 
>Robert Chao
>Oakland, California

Well, they're not in the East Bay, but they are a big mail-order
place.  Real Goods, headquartered in Ukia (there must be a letter
missing, that just doesn't look right), about 2.5 hours north of San
Francisco.  They carry *lots* of alternative energy products,
including a lot of florecent lightbulbs.  They can send you a chart
that has outlines of the different bulbs, so you can put your
incandecent bulb up next to it, and figure out if it will fit in your
fixture.  These bulbs do indeed exist.  They are expensive compared to
incandecent, but they do last a lot longer.

I usually carry a catalog, but I don't have it with me today.  I'm
sure information can help.

--
---
Ken Wallich

wallich@ncd.com ~ ken@wallich.com ~ kmw@al.org ~ [...]decwrl!vixie!amber!ken
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:30:26 GMT

In article <92GB02r72f9g01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.013413.2663@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
>jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>> 	Yeah, the fact of the matter is that if a professional car thief
>> has his or her heart set on taking your car, there's very little you can
>> actually do to prevent it. 
>
>I think, the value in putting a theft deterrent in your car is not that 
>thieves cannot steal it, but to make the other cars without the deterrent 
>more desirable hits.  It's an incentive thing.
>
There was a segment on T.V. this week ( Dec. 14-16) on car-jacking;
stolen cars; car rings, etc. As Mr. Chokey pointed out, as well as
the program, these thieves has a "list" of the car they want. If
your car fits their requirements, it is their's. They had two "former"
car thieves illustrate their trade. The Club detained them for approx.
30 s-e-c-o-n-d-s!! Only the most sophisticated and EXPENSIVE security
systems can deter and prevent them from stealing your car. Your 
typical car alarm can be dis-armed in less than 45 seconds!  In
takes another 15-30 seconds to start the car.  In less
than two minutes your car is gone.

Point being made: If you car meets their need, they look no further.
First one that matches their need is GONE! Once it is stolen, it
can be stripped to a shell in less than 20 MINUTES. 
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!! and Hear
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:06:28 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba
  <27949@dog.ee.lbl.gov> <1992Dec14.165411.4629@Csli.Stanford.EDU>

>mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:
>
>>But they fit in there, along with the customary racket pumping out
>>of the house speakers -- that "building" is the *ugliest* *pile* *of*
>>*shit* I have seen in a long time.  Decorated in junk-yard chic!
>>Cold!  Dirty-looking!  Stark factory liting inside!  Hideous garish
>>redone sidewalk outside!  EEYECH!  And windows everywhere, so the
>>whole world can see you wandering around inside this monument
>>to Ugly.
>
>I want to meet the person who came up with the idea of building an 
>all-glass structure on Telegraph.
>

	say hi to Ken Sarachan, the owner, who also owns Blondie Pizza and
Berkeley Beach t-shirt shop.

	There is an article about his "all glass record shop" in berkeley
(On Telegraph no less) in SF Chron's business section to-day (dec 14).

	And I agree. As far as glass buildings go, it's the ugliest thing. 
Worse even than San Francisco's Galaxy Theatre on Van Ness and Post, and beats
Pei's glass pyramids in the courtyard of the Louvre by miles.

	So does this mean that during the next riot the People of Berkeley
will be able to remedy this problem?

>-- Clay
>      	  "Existence is existence throughout all of existence."
>				-- Stephen Grossman
----
/bruce
Newsgroups: ba.general,rec.martial-arts
From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:55:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.044223.11134@netcom.com> steven@netcom.com (Steven Nelson) writes:
>In article <BzBwIt.8tr@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>>I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
>
>If you are talking about a club that locks the stearing wheel, a police
>office was on the 10 o'clock news describing the usefulness of such devices.
>According to this officer, car thiefs can easily disable the clubs by
>using a hacksaw and cutting out a section of the stearing wheel.  The
>time required: 3 - 5 minutes.

The CLUB is not a theft prevention device. It is a way to have a lethal
weapon handy while pretending it serves some legitimate function. Just
like those metal MAG-LITE flashlights.

Last week I had the cops bust a woman for smoking in a non-smoking area
and because I was watching for it, I noticed one of them had his
flashlight out even though it was not dark. He was clearly prepared to
smash her head in with the MAG-LITE if she made any trouble. But the
average bystander won't say anything about a flashlight that is not
used, unlike a PK-24 tonfa.

It was quite a show of force, the PD sent 3 cops to arrest a smoker...
Well, at least 911 works in my hometown as long as there isn't
anything else going on.

-- 
My opinions are my own.
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!!   and Hear
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:18:51 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

In article <Bz4Kp0.375@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>
>Rasputin's Records in Berkeley is now in a larger building, but I think
>they still don't have as much stuff as Amoeba. What do you think?

I like Rasputin's. I found Amoeba to be overpriced. I haven't been to 
the new Rasputin's.

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* 1987 Cagiva Alazzurra 650 (so sweet)    Insert witty, profound, humorous, *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | elitist, esoteric, plagiarized, acrimonious, * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | generalizing, and/or pedantic remark here.   *
From: dks@gallant.apple.com (dk smith)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Looking for a Wal-Mart store in 50 mile radius of SJ
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:36:16 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

If you know where a Wal-Mart is please tell me...
I looked in the San Jose phone book and found nothing.

Thx,
dk

-- 
dks@apple.com | Above opinions are mine and are not endorsed by Apple Computer
AppleLink: ULTIMATE | 408 974-1275 | If you are what you eat, are you dead meat?
From: greg@thirdi.uucp (Greg Holmberg)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Bookstore recommendation?
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:02:36 GMT
Reply-To: greg@thirdi.UUCP (Greg Holmberg)
Organization: Third Eye Software, Menlo Park, CA

In article <athos-031292132810@kip2-49.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
	In article <1992Dec3.175729.27490@netcom.com>, kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas
	David Kehoe) wrote:
	> 
	> 
	> I recently moved to Los Gatos, and want to buy someone
	> a certain book for Christmas, that was published in
	> 1982.  If I were in Portland, I'd just go to Powell's,
	> one of the biggest bookstores in the country, with
	> lots of older books.  Where should I call or look
	> in the Bay Area?
	
	IMHO, Keplers in Menlo Park is one of the better bookstores in the area.
	
Printers, Inc. on California St. in Palo Alto is also good.
-- 
Greg Holmberg
greg@thirdeye.com or ...!{apple,pyramid,cdp}!thirdi!greg
Third Eye Software, Inc., 750 Menlo Avenue, Suite 300, Menlo Park, CA 94025
415/321-0967 Voice, 415/321-2066 Fax
From: dks@gallant.apple.com (dk smith)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!! and Hear
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:50:21 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Dec14.165411.4629@Csli.Stanford.EDU> glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:
>mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:
>
>>of the house speakers -- that "building" is the *ugliest* *pile* *of*
>>*shit* I have seen in a long time.  Decorated in junk-yard chic!
>>Cold!  Dirty-looking!  Stark factory liting inside!  Hideous garish
>>redone sidewalk outside!  EEYECH!  And windows everywhere, so the
>>whole world can see you wandering around inside this monument
>>to Ugly.
>
>I want to meet the person who came up with the idea of building an 
>all-glass structure on Telegraph.
>

Today's SF Chron has an article about this guy...
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:52:35 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <1992Dec17.013413.2663@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
> 	Yeah, the fact of the matter is that if a professional car thief
> has his or her heart set on taking your car, there's very little you can
> actually do to prevent it. 

I think, the value in putting a theft deterrent in your car is not that 
thieves cannot steal it, but to make the other cars without the deterrent 
more desirable hits.  It's an incentive thing.

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
From: ding@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Ignatius Ding)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:49:20 GMT
Subject: Somalia Relief Effort
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: ba.general

             * * * For The Starving Somali Childrens * * * 


      In the spirit of "Operation Restore Hope", some of us in th
Chinese-American community have decided to launch a donation drive to raise
funds for the Somalia relief effort.  We believe that the matter is so urgent.
None of us can sit on our hands to wait for someone to knock on our front doors
asking for help.  There is no boundary of race, nationality, religion, or
anything else when we face the needs of saving lives.

      We have organized a fundraising party to solicit donations.  It will be
held at the Chinese American Culture Center, 1269 Forgewood, Sunnyvale (Ph.
408-747-0394) on December 30th.  We will start a year-end party inviting the
general public to attend at no charge.	We will provide snacks, drinks, and
music to entertain the guests.	All expenses will be paid by the families of
our friends.  The program will start at 7:00PM.  We will hold an auction at
8:00PM with items donated by the sponsoring families and various organizations.
All proceeds will go directly to the Santa Clara Valley Chapter of the Red
Cross.	We will request donors to write their checks to Red Cross designated to
the "Somalia Relief" effort.

      This project have the support of local Catholic churches, Baptists,
Buddhists, social, ethnic, and professional organizations to participate.  We
also have some human rights and educational organizations joining us.  I am
affiliated with the Chinese Institute of Engineers, an institution with more
than a hundred old history, Silicon Valley for Democracy in China, an
international human rights organization, and several other smaller groups.  We
will invite other ethnic groups to join us too.  For example, we will contact
the Coordination Council for the Central/Eastern Europeans, an alliance of the
Eurasians from Poland, Hungary, Baltic States, and the Commonwealth of the
Independent States.

      Anyone who is interested to get invloved in this project and/or can get
other organizations to co-sponsor it, please send me an e-mail at this address.
Happy holidays to you all.


Ignatius Y. Ding
From: HF.ALB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Ann Babb)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Long Lost Friend?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 09:11:34 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

I am trying to locate an old friend from Santa Fe, who I believe is
now living somewhere in Hawaii, doing rain forest work.  Could
someone please email me what the appropriate newsgroup would be, or
whether this is appropriate at all?!!  I am pretty new to the
net....  Thanks very much for your advice.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:13:39 GMT


I think it might be worthwhile if you own the kind of car that someone
would *only* steal for joyriding (as I do).  A pro wouldn't want my car.
Xref: sparky ba.general:5296 ucb.general:124
From: propp@legendre.msri.org (James Propp)
Newsgroups: ba.general,ucb.general
Subject: Wanted: non-smoker to share driving to east coast
Followup-To: ba.general
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:31:35 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute, Berkeley
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.188.63

I'll be driving my car from Berkeley to the east coast between Christmas and
New Year's (approximately), and am looking for someone to share the driving
with me.  My car is a stick-shift, so you will have to be comfortable with
manual transmission.  There is some slight flexibility regarding departure
date: I can leave as early as the afternoon of the 23rd, and as late as the
25th.  There is also some flexibility regarding the drop-off point -- my
destination is either Boston or New York, but I don't mind adding a few
hours to the trip to get you where you're going.

My car is fairly full, so I hope you don't have too much luggage.  I'll pay
for gas and tolls.

If you're interested, send e-mail to propp@msri.org or phone 273-2445.

Jim Propp
Xref: sparky ba.general:5315 rec.martial-arts:15902
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general,rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:13:55 GMT
Followup-To: ba.general
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec16.235518.24589@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
|Last week I had the cops bust a woman for smoking in a non-smoking area
|and because I was watching for it, I noticed one of them had his
|flashlight out even though it was not dark. He was clearly prepared to
|smash her head in with the MAG-LITE if she made any trouble. But the
|average bystander won't say anything about a flashlight that is not
|used, unlike a PK-24 tonfa.
|
|It was quite a show of force, the PD sent 3 cops to arrest a smoker...
|Well, at least 911 works in my hometown as long as there isn't
|anything else going on.

Let me get this straight.  You called 911 because a woman was smoking in
a non-smoking area?  Un-fucking-believable.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Xref: sparky ba.general:5254 comp.misc:4558
From: pete@plutonium.CChem.Berkeley.EDU (Pete Goodeve)
Newsgroups: ba.general,comp.misc
Subject: Historic (hah!) computer?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 10:07:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: plutonium.cchem.berkeley.edu


Anyone ever heard of a `Plexus 60' computer?  A neighbour is trying to
help a friend of a friend [... you can see that I'm really closely connected
with all this... (:-)] dispose of one of these beasts -- I gather currently
sitting in a house that is to be sold.  I'm told it's something the size
of a small refrigerator.

I know nothing more about it -- never heard of the machine myself -- but
maybe it's worth something to someone.  (The only outlay required is the
hauling away.)  Might even be historic, I suppose.

If you have any interest, call Nita at (510) 841-6174. 

					-- Pete --
Xref: sparky ba.general:5297 ucb.general:125
From: propp@legendre.msri.org (James Propp)
Newsgroups: ba.general,ucb.general
Subject: Cheap air travel to NYC
Followup-To: ba.general
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:34:57 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute, Berkeley
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.188.63

Are you a woman interested in flying from the Bay Area to New York 
in late December or thereafter?

My sister is thinking of flying one-way to the Bay Area and is interested
in sharing a round-trip ticket.  She hasn't bought it yet, so there's some 
flexibility on the return date (though a return date after Dec. 26 would
probably make for a lower ticket-price, because of the Saturday stay-over).

If you're interested, send e-mail to propp@msri.org or phone 273-2445.
From: tegan@cup.portal.com (Terry Michael Egan)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Need help finding Glock Shovel in SF Bay area
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:07:24 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

Hi.

	I have heard that Glock Inc. ( the makers of the famous
'plastic' pistol ) make a folding camp shovel.  My question is, 
does anyone know of a place in the San Francisco Bay Area that sells
these? I have heard that they are Austrian military issue.
Please email me with any addresses, phone #'s.
Thanks,
Terry Egan ( tegan@cup.portal.com )
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Wanted: Wild Ear Ring Store
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:33:08 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <1992Dec17.233706.1691@nas.nasa.gov>, blake@wk60.nas.nasa.gov (Matthew W. Blake) writes:
|> I'm looking to get my wife a pair of bizzare/interesting/wild
|> /wierd/istranger/whatever ear rings.  This is a tradition each 
|> year and my usual spots have turned up dry.
|> 
|> Does anyone have a suggestion for where I can find interesting ear
|> rings in the Bay Area?  Prefer Mountain View, Palo Alto, or Sunnyvale.
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 

Try the Sharks store in Vallco;  they have a set of earrings that are sharks
with the front half on the front of the ear lobe and the back half on the
back of the ear lobe.


-- 
Alan Hepburn           "An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
National Semiconductor       what you have just found out."
Santa Clara, Ca              
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Will Rogers
From: brett@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Brett Hanna)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:16:02 GMT
Subject: ! URGENT ! sanfancisco tips
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: ba.general



	I will be entertainig my girlfriend in San Francisco this weekend
for her birthday and I would appreciate some suggestions on what to do
while there. We will be staying (unless I get anyother tips from you folks)
near the warf and will have a vehicle. Any answers to the following would
be greatly appreciated>

	Where are the christmas diplays?

        A good bar to catch the Niner game on Saturday?

	Clubs with no cover to see local bands? (rock/metal)

	Someplace where I can start and finish my whole christmas shopping?

IF ANYONE HAS A BETTER BOARD FOR THIS POST I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT TOO!!
From: greg@thirdi.uucp (Greg Holmberg)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: NEED RECOMMENDATION ON A RESONABLE PLUMBER SO BAY
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:11:31 GMT
Reply-To: greg@thirdi.UUCP (Greg Holmberg)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Third Eye Software, Menlo Park, CA

In article <70924@cup.portal.com> gore@cup.portal.com (M - Gore) writes:
	Need recommendation for a good plumber to install several
	faucets. I live in the So bay

I've used AGS with satisfaction.  They were helpful on the phone (I
was getting price info) and arrived in 30 minutes on a Sunday
afternoon.  There is a minimum 1 hour charge ($60, I think it was).  In
45 minutes they had removed my sewer clog (tree roots about 100 feet
in) and cleaned out my other (kitchen) line of grease.  And the man was
very friendly.  He even told me about "Root Destroyer" to keep roots
away, so I wouldn't have to call him back in a year.

AGS, 415/855-9514.

Their ad in the yellow pages says they also do repiping, water heaters,
new construction, remodeling, faucets, and garbage disposals.  They'll
give you an estimate on the phone.  No travel charge.  7 days a week.
-- 
Greg Holmberg
greg@thirdeye.com or ...!{apple,pyramid,cdp}!thirdi!greg
Third Eye Software, Inc., 750 Menlo Avenue, Suite 300, Menlo Park, CA 94025
415/321-0967 Voice, 415/321-2066 Fax
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: marcia@netcom.com (Marcia)
Subject: looking for silver dragees
Organization: The Dolphin Conspiracy, Phase II
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:34:58 GMT

Silver dragees (with an accent over the first e) are small candies used in
decorating cakes, cookies, etc. They are small balls of sugar with an ultra
thin coating of silver on them (no, they are not harmful - a food scientist
has said that you would need to eat cases and cases of them before you were 
in danger).

I know I have seen them in grocery stores in the past, but for some reason
I cannot find them anywhere now. I have checked with most of the major food
store chains, including Drager's and Petrini's. I have also been to stores
carrying the Wilton cake decorating line - all with no luck whatsoever.

Since I'm kind of tired of running around, if anyone has seen these anywhere
in the bay area (south bay and Penninsula preferred, but at this point I'm
willing to travel), can you please email me? My Christmas cookies and I thank
you....

Also, while I'm asking, a friend of mine is looking for picture rail hangers.
Has anyone seen these?

Thanks for any help. It's appreciated.
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marcia Bednarcyk                                  ADDRESSES: marcia@netcom.com
"Sweaty Snugglebunnies."                                     mlb@cisco.com
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: jeffj@ultra.com (Jeff Johnson)
Subject: Fair and Festival Pseudo-weekly Posting
Keywords: fair festival food fun
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 23:00:20 GMT

Hi folks,
  The art/wine/food/craft festival season is at an end.  This is the last
posting of the year.  Postings will resume when I start receiving schedules
for next years' shows.  Have a happy and safe holiday season, and I'll see
you next year at the festivals!

Dec 19-20    Celebration of Craftswomen, Fort Mason, SF
Dec 19-20    Telegraph Avenue Street Fair (Berkeley)
Dec 19-20    Berkeley Potters Guild Open House
-- 
    Jeff Johnson    | Ultra Network Technologies | voice: (408) 922-0100 x284
  jeffj@ultra.com   |     101 Daggett Drive      |   fax: (408) 433-9287
...ames!ultra!jeffj |    San Jose, CA  95134     |   sex: (900) 976-4825
 The difference between ignorance and apathy?  I don't know and I don't care
Newsgroups: ba.general,ba.wanted