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From: st11w@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
Subject: DEC Campus Reps?
Organization: /fajitas/st11w/.organization
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:30:10 GMT


Hiya guys!  I guess I am looking maily for input from those who work
for or work closely with Digital.  I know NeXT pays students to
represent them on college campuses (give demos, promote the machine,
etc.) and I was wondering if DEC had a comprarable non-sales position.
It seems to be quite productive for NeXT, at least on this campus, so
I thought DEC might be doing the same thing.

Thanks for the info.

-dennis
--
Dennis Gray, Jr.
dwg@lisa.cc.uh.edu
st11w@menudo.uh.edu
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From: sinster@cse.ucsc.edu (Darren Senn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.misc,comp.unix.msdos,comp.unix.admin,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:05:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32286
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)

In article <1992Apr5.051847.26292@julian.uwo.ca> crispin@csd.uwo.ca (Crispin Cowan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.012117.25191@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
>>>that takes my fingers from the home row--including mice, control-, and
>>If your keyboard doesn't have a control key on the home row, it's broken.
>
>Standard DOSy keyboard puts the control key down near the shift and alt
>keys.

This is why I spent 4 months looking for a keyboard for the PC I put
together: Epson makes a very good one.

I'm in the same boat as Crispin, though:  I'm a fast touch typist (owing to
over a decade of daily touch typing) and I far prefer vi to almost all text
editors out there.  The absolute worst word processor or text editor I have
ever experienced is WordPerfect: I hate systems that make me lean heavily
on function keys, which are no where near the home row on QWERTY keyboard.
-- 
Darren Senn                                            Phone:    (408) 479-1521
sinster@scintilla.capitola.ca.us                       Snail: 1785 Halterman #1
Wasurenaide -- doko e itte mo soko ni anata wa iru yo.     Santa Cruz, Ca 95062
From: jdubb@csa.bu.edu (jay dubb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: anyone tried UFORIA (unix-vms backups)? what is it like?
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:04:16 GMT
Reply-To: jdubb@csa.bu.edu (jay dubb,degree)
Organization: x



     Does anyone have any experience with the UFORIA backup product
for Unix and VMS systems that was advertised on biz.comp.software by
someone at lobsang@unixland.natick.ma.us? What is it like? Reliable?
easy to use? How are the support people? Please email me any thoughts
you may have on this topic.
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From: damir@maui.llnl.gov (Damir Sudar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,ba.market.computers
Subject: VAXstation II for sale
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:22:18 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Distribution: ba
Organization: Molecular Cytometry, UCSF, San Francisco


Our group is standardizing on SUN equipment and that makes our
VAXstation II superfluous. Is anybody interested?

Here are the components:

Item    Qty     Code            Description
1       1       KA630-A         MicroVAX processor
2       1       BA123           Cabinet
3       1       MS630-BA        Memory module (2 MB)
4       1       ???             Memory module (8 MB)
5       1       VCB01           Display controller
6       1       VR260           Monochrome monitor
7       1       VB10X           Mouse
8       1       LK201           Keyboard
9       1       DEQNA           Ethernet interface
10      1       TQK50           TK50 controller
11      1       TK50            TK50 tape drive
12      1       RQDX3           Disk controller
13      1       RD54            154 MB disk
14      2       RD53            71 MB disk
15      1       DHV11           8 port serial multiplexer
16      1       DQ696           Dilog disk/tape controller
17      1       WREN5           360 MB Seagate disk drive
18      1       LA75            Printer
19      2       VT240           Terminal

I would like to sell it as a bundle but I would consider good offers
on separate items. For the whole thing any offer over $ 2000.- will
get serious consideration. B.t.w. it comes both with a 2-user VMS
license and a 2-user Ultrix license and it works just beautifully.

Damir Sudar
Division of Molecular Cytometry
University of California, San Francisco
BOX 0808 - MCB 230
San Francisco, CA 94143
415-476-3540
damir@dmc.ucsf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
From: paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO)
Subject: Reading VMS/5.0 BACKUP tapes on UNIX
Reply-To: Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:40:44 GMT

I realize that this is probably a FAQ and I've already gone through all our
old news checking for it.  I have need to extract files from multi-volume
BACKUP tape sets onto a UNIX machine.  Thanks for whatever pointers you can
offer.  If I receive multiple "me-too" responses, I will summarize as a
followup.

/pbp
-- 
Paul Pomes, Univ of Illinois  |  Necessity is the argument of tyrants, it is
Email to Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu  |  the creed of slaves.  --William Pitt (1783)
From: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Robert Delius Royar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Looking for micro software to "interface" with VMS
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:33:23 GMT
Reply-To: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Organization: University of Louisville

Forgive me if this is the improper place to ask this question, but a search 
of the local news system turned up few groups that seemed connected to Vax 
questions.  Any help at finding a group which discusses Vax "connectivity" 
issues would also be welcome. 
 
I teach Writing at the New York Institute of Technology.  Some of the
courses I teach are Vax-mediated Distance-Learning courses.  We're currently
revamping our local network and contemplating trashing or antiquated LANs and
instead connecting to our Archaic 750s.  As a member of our school's
Computer-Literacy committee and a regular user of Vaxen for the last 8
years, I've been asked to investigate software for our micros.

We're looking for IBM-PC (Windows or Gem), Mac, Amiga, and Atari ST
"front-ends" for micros connected (usually through dial-up lines) to Vaxen
(running VMS 5.2).  The users will be running the CoSy computer
conferencing system, MAIL, and All-in-One.  We would like to have
intelligent vt100 or vt200 emulation.  (All-in-One users may choose only
EDT or WPS as their editors and CoSy users only a kluncky line editor or
EDT.)  Some of the users will connect long distance over toll-free lines
(through the Cable & Wireless Company).

We would like the software able to process some of the i/o locally
"packaging" it for the Vax before sending it along (e.g. the micro software
might format mailer commands and allow the user to select addressees from a
list stored on the micro).  Because we wish to use the software both in
distance education, collaborative writing, and for teacher conferencing,
we'd like to be able to do some real-time group editing (something similar
to vax-phone but a bit more user friendly and configurable).

While I've written a front-end for some Vax programs such as Vax-Mail and
done a little C programming on the Vax.  This type of interface is beyond
my English-teacher background.  Surely someone has designed it.  Any help
or direction that I get would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Robert Royar [CIS: 72347,2767 or 72347.2767@CompuServe.com]

Contact addresses
 r0mill01@ulkyvx.bitnet (guest account)
 or
 Department of English
 New York Institute of Technology
 Old Westbury, NY 11568
 (516) 686-7751

Because I'm posting as a guest, and get few opportunities to read NEWS 
groups, direct replies would be greatly appreciated.
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From: wjmc@unix.brighton.ac.uk (-*_Spikey_Tribble_*-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Pathworks directory depth
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:11:35 GMT
Organization: Brighton Polytechnic, UK

mcrowley@mtholyoke.edu (Michael A. Crowley) writes:
> [...]
> Repeatedly enter DOS commands:  md x     cd x
> and eventually one receives "Invalid directory".  The point at which
> this occurs seems related to the number of characters in the path,
> not to the number of directories.   md xxxxxxxx     cd xxxxxxxx  repeatedly
>
> It is also not related to the VMS directory depth.
Are you ABSOLUTELY sure about this ? there are limitations ...
-- 
###########################################################################
#  Bill Crawford  aka  *Cuddly_Cactus*     |     wjmc@uk.ac.bton.unix     #
#  BSc (Hons) Computer Science Year One    |     wjmc@uk.ac.bton.vms      #
#  Any views I express are not necessarily those of Brighton Polytechnic  #
###########################################################################
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From: rflukes@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard F. Lukes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.pdp11,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: pdp11/45 front panel & Unibus boards FORSALE
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:38:59 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

I have the following items for sale:

        RL11 - RL01/02 disk controller module     $70
        DR11-K - parallel interface & mtg. panel  $60
        RX11 - RX01 floppy disk controller        $30
        DZ11 - 8 port rs232 async. multiplexer    $30
        LP11 - line printer controller            $40
        DL11 - async. line unit                   $20
 
        11/45 front panel, complete with all lights
              and switches.  Working,  and in very
              good condition.                     $70
 
I also have lots of Unibus odds and ends left over,  and also
RK07 packs, vt100's, etc...
 
If interested please e-mail me directly.
Thanks,
          Rich

-- 
Richard F. Lukes                    rflukes@ccu.UManitoba.CA
Computer Science Department         (or rflukes@ccm.UManitoba.CA)
University of Manitoba
WORK: (204)-474-8696                HOME: (204)-257-6701
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help: how to set the ownership of a mounted floppy disk back to general user
From: chuck@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chuck Qun Zheng)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 10:29:50 GMT
Reply-To: chuck@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chuck Qun Zheng)
Organization: Technology Strategy, Telecom Corporation of New Zealand.


In article <shlam.703387613@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk>, shlam@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk
(Alan S H Lam) writes:
|> 
|> I can mount a 5000/25 DEC station floppy disk drive as a general user
|> |> as long as the root has set:
|> 
|> chmod +rwx /dev/rfd0a
|> chmod +rwx /dev/fd0a
|> 
|> However after the mounting, the ownership of the mount directory is
|> root rather than the user even though the directory is created by
|> the
|> user and has been set to "chmod +rwx" by the user before mounting.
|> The status of the mounted directory is still drwxr-xr-x. Hence,
|> general
|> user cannot directly copy any file to the floppy disk.
|> 

How about 

	chown root.students /dev/rfd0a /dev/fd0a

Or set gid to staff, grads, users, etc.  Ultrix might well allow a user in
many groups, like BSD.
-- 
Chuck Qun Zheng
Telecom Corperate Office
Wellington, New Zealand
chuck@bdev.corp.telecom.co.nz
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From: shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.arch
Subject: MIPS R3000 architecture description
Followup-To: poster
Date: 14 Apr 1992 15:17:20 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: oporto.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: MIPS R3000   DEC 5000/200

I work on a DECstation 5000/200 with a MIPS R3000 processor (25 MHz).
It has a MIPS R3010 FPU.  I am looking for a description of this  
architecture.  Specifically, I am interested in the pipeline and the 
functional units used.   Could anyone help?  Is there any ftp site 
from where I could obtain this information?

-Shubu
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee         University of Texas @ Austin, C.Sc.
e-mail:shubu@cs.utexas.edu     [W]:(512) 471-9586   [H]:(512) 467-2653
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From: sweeney@husc3.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Dictionary of Spellings
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:10:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr16.131037.11168
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

We need a dictionary of spellings to test some linguistic learning 
algorithms. In particular, we are seeking an ASCII file of several 
thousand unique words, with or without affixes. 

Attempts to produce such a file from random documents fails to produce a 
high number of unique words. The DEC PDP-10 (about 10 years ago) used 
such an ASCII file of spellings. Does anyone have an ASCII file of 
words?

If anyone can provide such a file or have any pointers, please contact
me. Thank you for your assistance.

-Latanya Sweeney
email: sweeney@husc3.harvard.edu
From: iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Talk from DECstation 5000 to Sun
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:48:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Apr13.172111.3703@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> johannes@ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de (Johannes Viegener) writes:
>I have a problem with talk from a DECstation 5000 to a Sun
>I get the following messages when using talk or otalk:
>
>  Checking for invitation on caller's machine   --> never returns
>
>  invalid protocol (or something similar. Sorry I can't test at the moment)
>
>Anyone had the same problems? 

Sun uses an old, broken talk that doesn't work correctly when used between
big-endian and little-endian machines.  Your best bet is to get a copy
of the 4.3bsd talk and talkd and install them on your Sun.  That's what
we did.


Mike Iglesias                        Internet:    iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu
University of California, Irvine     BITNET:      iglesias@uci
Office of Academic Computing         uucp:        ...!ucbvax!ucivax!iglesias
Distributed Computing Support        phone:       (714) 856-6926
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: jeffv@bisco.kodak.com (Jeff Van Epps)
Subject: Looking for DS 5000 specs
Originator: jeffv@bisco
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:12:22 GMT

Is there somewhere where I can grab information on the DECstation 5000
series?  Hardware and software specs, peripheral options, etc.  This is
probably a FAQ, but I haven't seen a FAQ posting so I thought I'd ask.
I only have "ftpmail" access, so if you're going to point to something
available via FTP please provide a full path name.

Thanks.
-- 

    Jeff Van Epps          jeffv@bisco.kodak.com
                           lordbah@amusing.Bah.Rochester.NY.US
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.x
From: wjbaird@descartes.waterloo.edu (Warren Baird)
Subject: Questions about DECWindows under VMS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:30:11 GMT


I have a few questions about DECWindows under VMS that hopefully
someone can help me answer.

I don't have access to any machines running DECWindows under VMS, so
I'm kind of working in the dark here.

1)  The information that I've seen implies that DECWindows under VMS is
an X11 varient, but I haven't been able to find the relationship
between various versions of DECWindows and the releases of X11.  Is
there an easy way to tell whether a version of DECWindows is X11R3 or
X11R4?

2) Is VMS DECWindows a full X11 distribution?  Does it support all of
the XLib toolkit?  Are there any other toolkits that are always
included?

3) Is there any easy way for X programs running under VMS (with the
DECNet protocol, I suppose) to communicate with X servers running under
Unix? (either Ultrix or otherwise)

4) Are there any special issues that have to be addressed in porting an
XLib-based program from Unix to VMS?

Thanks for your time,

Warren


Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 09:56:54 -0400 
From: Marissa Gonzalez <mg4s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: another DECstation 5000/240 question

In reviewing the Technical Overview document for the DECstation
5000/240, I found several memory read latencies that were troublesome.  

	- 690 ns : single memory read from noncached address
	- 840 ns : eight word cache load (I calculated from the
				information given)
	- 320 ns : processor memory read latency
	- 440 ns : TURBOchannel memory read latency

These numbers imply that any memory access requires a 320 ns latency
probably due to a page-mode read latency.  Is this the case?  

If not, why are the latencies so large?  

If so, why is it that all reads are done using page-mode read?  

Why is the page-mode read latency 8-cycle? 

 Finally, why is the TURBOchannel latency 440 ns as opposed to 320 ns? 
(the only explaination for the 440 ns I could come up with is that this
included TURBOchannel signalling overhead, specifically cycles t1, t2,
t3(320 ns), and t4 as specified in the TURBOchannel Hardware
Specification document for DMA reads).

Too many questions?

Thanks,
Marissa Gonzalez
<mg4s@andrew.cmu.edu>
From: robin@lsl.co.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: VMS 5.5/POSIX
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:52:49 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <1992Apr14.151940.3786@linus.mitre.org>, cazier@mbunix.mitre.org (Cazier) writes:
> The responses I've recieved with my earlier questions about VMS 5.5/POSIX
> have been in the form of LECTURES about POSIX. I'm not looking for a 
> religious lecture on POSIX ... I'm seeking folks who might have some 
> knowledge about how functionally equivalent VMS 5.5/POSIX is to UNIX/POSIX?

You would do well to listen to the religion.  Like it or not (and I 
don't, particularly, even though I'm a standardiser myself) Posix is a 
label that is increasingly being stuck `on the side of' both systems and 
applications.  In order to know what's going on, you need to understand 
the words, which are (to some extent) religious.

> If I (a UNIX user) am placed on VMS 5.5/POSIX and run the "posix" shell
> will I get the same functionality from that environment (under VMS) as
> I would if I remain on my current DEC Ultrix system 5500.

My best guess at the answer to that is to suggest that you consider how 
easy it might be to transfer yourself bodily to another _Unix_ platform. 
We run DECstations, SPARCstation 2s, and RS6000s.  Despite that all our 
`Open Systems' (a _real_ piece of marketing-ese, not mere religion) 
products are written to be portable, there are always issues about which 
application can run on which platform with which amount of 
customisation.

> It woudl be nice to get some type of mapping on Ultrix vs VMS 5.5/POSIX
> to see what functions, system calls and/or tools/utilities I'm losing in
> such a move.

Not all Unix systems offer the same set of tools and utilities.  Drives 
us crazy...

> I do not feel that reading DEC literature will tell me qualitatively what
> to expect from my new environment.

You're probably right, but having a look at it will give you a pretty 
good start.  Best of luck with the trawl for information: if you get 
stuff mailed direct to you, do summarise...
-- 
Robin Fairbairns, Senior Consultant, postmaster and general dogsbody
Laser-Scan Ltd., Science Park, Milton Rd., Cambridge CB4 4FY, UK
Email: robin@lsl.co.uk  --or--  rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: sa@ais.org (Scott Almburg)
Subject: Misc  Unibus boards  wanted
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 16:26:29 GMT

I'm looking for several boards for an old Vax 11/750.

1.   L0006  RDM
2.   M7792
     M7793  Deuna card set with cables
3.   M8396  DMF-32 with dist panel and cables

If anyone out there has an old Vax lying around, and
wants to get rid of some of these boards, please let
me know.


Scott Almburg

Interface Systems

sa@irie.ais.org

Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: berglin@sscux1.ssc.gov (robert berglin)
Subject: Re: DEC system jokes
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:12:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.215338.19366@e2big.mko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
>In article <926@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com>, bill@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com (Bill Pechter) writes...
>>The same feature existed in VAX/VMS through 3.5 (probably through 4.2 when I
>>stopped working with it... but I know it was in 3.5)
>
>>The neat thing is it was the only way I could get into VMS when I wrote the
>>login.com from hell.
>
>>Username: pechter/cli=mcr
>>Password: password
>
>>MCR>
>
>
>>I miss that feature today...
>
>It still works in VMS V5.5...
>
>You need VAX RSX for CLI=MCR to work, though.
>

You don't need VAX RSX for this one, though:

Username: pechter/nocommand
Password: password

It just requires that the system manager hasn't set your account /flags=captive
or /flags=restricted.

-Bob Berglin, Superconducting Super Collider, Dallas, Texas
 internet: berglin@sscux1.ssc.gov or berglin_ra@sscvx1.ssc.gov
 phone: (214) 708-1425
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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.misc,comp.unix.msdos,comp.unix.admin,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:58:22 GMT
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central


 Bob> == Bob English <renglish@cello.hpl.hp.com> 

 Bob> I have to agree with Van, here.  While sendmail may indeed be a
 Bob> complex, powerful tool, that doesn't mean that simple things have
 Bob> to be complex and difficult.

Use ease or the NIU Sendmail.mc m4 code that comes with UIUC-IDA sendmail.

The NIU stuff makes it a *lot* easier to deal with sendmail.cf, because
you don't have to.  I haven't used ease, but I've heard good stuff about
it.

--
Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org> |    ECONOMIC OBSERVATIONS DEPARTMENT
System Manager & Postmaster     |  "There's always something going out of
Electronic Frontier Foundation  |      business in Central Square."
+1 617 864 0665  NIC: [CKD1]    |   -Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@eff.org>
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