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From: pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Hiding LaserWriters with Gatorbox.
Keywords: gatorbox laserwriter ethertalk
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:02:14 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

Situation: Large LAN with EtherTalk, TCP/IP and LocalTalk. HP router used
to route everything (including 56/112Kbps WAN).  A gatorbox exists somewhere
in there to provide MacTCP over ARA services.

Problem: A need to hide LaserWriters from users who are not in the same
ZONE as the printer.

My proposed solution: Generate a bunch of zones with the Gatorbox, put the
LaserWriters (such as the IIg that are on EtherTalk) in the newly created\zones (thanks to that nifty postscript code).  Put the users (they are all on
EtherTalk) into a zone that matches the printers that they have access to.

Then, rename the printers to start with a "tidle" so that they are visible
from other zones. 

Question: Is this possible? Will it work?  What are the limitations, especially
with regards to multiple routers, network numbers and zone names in this
type of setup ???

Thanks!

-Pascal
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase - LANL)
Subject: Re: Sending email from internet to applelink
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:31:43 GMT

In article <timmer.724588830@dutiag>, timmer@dutiag.tudelft.nl (I.
Timmermans) wrote:
> 
> Can anybody tell me how I can reach someone on applelink? I know the procedure to send email from Compuserve to internet and back but this should be possible for applelink too. 

To send mail to someone at AppleLink "username@applelink.apple.com"
I beleive though that the AppleLink user has to pay a per message fee
for incomming messages from the Internet. 

> Also I would like to know if it is possible to get someone's full name and telephone number when I have his applelink email addres. 

Don't know about this one.....

<==================================+==================================>
  Peter Haase                      +    Internet: haase@meediv,lanl.gov
  Net Manager/MEE-Division         +    Applelink: HAASE
  Los Alamos National Laboratory   +    Phone: 505-667-2684

"The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily
 reflect those of Los Alamos National Laboratory"
From: moyman@ECN.PURDUE.EDU (Mike Moya)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: EtherPrint Hardware info wanted
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:02:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

How reliable is this hardware (the single as well as the 4 port model)? Is
there a competing product to put LW IIf's (and under) on the Ethernet? Does
the AppleTalk connection remain operable with the EtherPrint hardware
installed (like the IIg's interfaces)? Thanks for any input...
--moya
From: hasselbrink@rz-berlin.mpg.de (Eckart Hasselbrink)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: FastPath: IP forwarding for EtherTalk
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:11:05 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum MPG Berlin

I have several FastPaths 4, ROM 5.1, K-Star 9.1. They work fine. What I
want to do is to connect a group (2-3 Macs and a printer) which are located
at an odd place via a Dyana EtherPrint Plus to our EtherNet. I think these Macs 
can use MacTCP and one one of these FastPath will do the DDP/IP conversion. 
I guess it has do with the "IP forwarding for EtherTalk" switch in the Shiva 
NetManager setup. 
My questions are:
a) Is this correct?
b) What restrictions do exist for the IP-addresses of these Macs? Can I still 
use static addresses for these Macs (within the range the FastPath is set to
administer)?
c) What performance can I expect? What sideeffects does it have for the Macs 
connected to the LocalTalk side?
d) Anythink else to consider?

Eckart
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From: lim@merlion.CWRU.Edu (Hock Koon Lim)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Problem with ARNS and MacSE
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:13:44 GMT
Organization: Information Network Services, Case Western Reserve
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lim@po.CWRU.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: merlion.ins.cwru.edu





    I am unable to see any AppleTalk zone after I login to ARNS server
with Async Atalk.  My MacSE is running MacOS 7.1 with MacTCP v1.1.1 loaded.
I have no problem to run the "async" program on the ARNS server.  However,
after the connection is make, there is not AppleTalk zones shown in the
chooser.  I did try to install the "SHeap" extension but it doesn't help.
I have no problem with the ARNS server  when I use it with a MacIIcx.


Thanks,

-- 
Hock-Koon Lim, Information Network services
Case Western Reserve University; Cleveland, Ohio, USA  44106   
(216) 368-2982        lim@ins.cwru.edu
From: bkort@k12-nis.bbn.com (Barry Kort)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: ARNS remote appletalk via TCP:  any experience?
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:24:49
Organization: /home/bkort/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: k12-nis.bbn.com
In-reply-to: rivero's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:12:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.181225.17339@ulrik.uio.no> rivero 
<rivero@cc.unizar.es> writes:

   Have anyone in the list installed ARNS? 
   Is it fast?

I have only tried the clients, not the ARNS Server.  I'm looking for
someone who has a test ARNS server up in North America.  I have been
able to print to the LaserWriter at mullala.cs.mu.oz.au, but I can't
get the AppleShare to work properly over a 12000 mile Internet link.

   The current description we have limit the remote appletalk access 
   via TCP/IP to macintosh in a ethernet network. Have anyoune tried
   with Clients on appletalk+Kinetics+ethernet nets? which is the
   limitation?

   -Alejandro Rivero
   Zaragoza Univ, Spain.

For Macs not equipped with direct EtherTalk connections, I have tried
the Async AppleTalk dial-up to a Unix host running the Unix side of
the Async client.  The performance to the ARNS Server at Mullala
is the same for Async AppleTalk as for IPRemote.  The globe-girdling
connection is a bit too unreliable and delay-laden to be a good test.

Barry Kort
BBN Labs
From: apple.com (Ben Beasley)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: maximum length of LocalTalk cable
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:55:29 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <boulton.723958920@hawk>, boulton@hawk.adied.oz.au (Mark Boulton) writes:

>From the book titled "AppleTalk( Network Systems Overview"

"LocalTalk twisted-pair cable supports a maximum of 32 devices and allows 
 transmission speeds of up to 230.4 kilobits per second (Kbps).  A LocalTalk
 network can span up to a total of 1000 feet."
"A cable extender is an adapter that joins two cable.  LocalTalk cable comes
 in 10- and 25-meter lengths."

I would extrapolate that there should be no problem with what you would like
to do provided that you don't go beyone the 1000 feet limit.  About the only 
thing I would say is that these are specs with the Apple provided wiring, if 
you are using PhoneNet or similar stuff you will need to find out the limits
for that hardware.
Regards,
Benjamin Beasley

> 
> We are setting up a printer which is some distance (15 to 30 metres)
> from a Mac Quadra 950.
> 
> The problem we have is that we do not know the maximum length of the
> that we can run a single segment of LocalTalk cable for.
> 
> Also would extra shielding or anything along those lines improve the
> distance we could run the cable?
> 
> Thank in advance
> 
> Mark Boulton		E-Mail: boulton@adied.oz.au
>
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Changing a LaserPrinter's node number
Date: 13 Dec 1992 15:39:36 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In comp.protocols.appletalk, article <1992Dec11.223732.23119@convex.com>,
  hansel@convex.com (Kevin Hansel) writes:
> Does anyone out there know how to force an AppleTalk (LocalTalk) device to
> assume a specific node number?  I have a QMS Colorscript 210
> printer that has a LocalTalk interface.  Somehow the printer
> has chosen an illegal AppleTalk node number for itself (51).
> According the the AppleTalk specs, node numbers in the range of
> 1-127 are used to identify client nodes (which a Laser Printer is
> not).  Node numbers in the range of 128-254 are reserved for 
> server nodes (which a LaserPrinter is).  Since my printer has 
> taken the number 51 for itself, it has an illegal address.
> 
That can't be the reason. I suspect a DDP checksum problem;
talk to the QMS people and/or get a packet sniffer to check
on the NBP packets.

-- 
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From: trier@slc6.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Dual-homing on AppleTalk?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:35:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH (USA)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc6.ins.cwru.edu

In article <gf_DApu00WCoMJSnlE@andrew.cmu.edu> tjh+@CMU.EDU (Tom Holodnik) writes:
>Do any machines support dual-homing on AppleTalk networks?  That is,
>would a NetWare server (for instance) support AppleTalk connections on
>two networks (without routing!)? 

The old Novell 2.15 Macintosh VAPs supported this.

The problem with it is that if the two network segments are routed
together elsewhere, one server will show up twice in the Chooser.

AppleTalk wasn't really built for multihoming.  That's why NetWare for
Macintosh 3.X routes when it's on multiple nets.  (Well, it routes
even when it is plugged into only one, and I wish it didn't, but that's
a different issue.)

-- 
Stephen Trier                      "We want to offer you a price that you
Network software type               just can't afford to take advantage of."
Case Western Reserve University         - Sales blurb from HSC Software
trier@ins.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Gavin Eadie <Gavin@UMich.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Apple Net Installer available?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:18:22 EST
Organization: U of Michigan Information Systems
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A75666D7D602BA11@forfar.uis.itd.umich.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:18:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.174325.24507@mtu.edu> WILLIAM DAVID BURNS,
wdburns@walker2.hu.mtu.edu writes:
>Anyways, that's my findings...I don't understand why Apple doesn't put
the
>NSI 1.3 on their FTP server..

      One reason is that the Apple ftp service is a voluntary activity
and doesn't get first priority in the busy custodians life.  NSI 1.2.3
*is* there and I expect it'll only be a short while before it's updated
... Gav
From: harmon@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Jim Harmon)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP with 2 ethernets?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 10:41:38 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu


I am currently running cap 6.0 pl125 on a sparc II. I have a second ethernet 
card and would like to extend my appletalk network to this ethernet. I would
like to export AUFS volumes to both ethernets and have Appleshare volumes from
one side be seen on the other. Could someone tell me if this is possible 
and what I would need to do.

A crude map:
                enet0   enet1
    =Macs============   ==========Macs=
                +---|---|---+          
                |Sparc with |          
                |2 ethernets|
                +-----------+

Thanks
harmon@mps.ohio-state.edu
From: bkort@k12-nis.bbn.com (Barry Kort)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: CAP vs netatalk
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:57:59 GMT
Organization: /home/bkort/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: k12-nis.bbn.com
In-reply-to: kevin@rodin.wustl.edu's message of 13 Dec 92 19:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.195617.21233@wuecl.wustl.edu> 
kevin@rodin.wustl.edu (Kevin Ruland) writes:

   And finially can anyone recommend one of Eudora, POPmail, 
   TechMail pop clients over the other?

POPmail is similar in 'look and feel' to QuickMail, and supports
both POP2 and POP3.  Eudora supports POP3 and also works with
Kerberos authentication.  Both are good products and come with
documentation.  I haven't tried TechMail.

Barry Kort
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.unix.ultrix
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: CAP & Ultrix 4.3 -- PF patches needed?
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:21:12 GMT

Does anybody know if the packet-filter patches that were necessary
to make CAP work under Ultrix 4.2 are built into Ultrix 4.3?  I'm
hoping to install Ultrix 4.3 in the near future, but I don't want
to break CAP in the process...

Many thanks!
--
Jurgen Botz                  |   Internet: JBotz@mtholyoke.edu
Academic Systems Consultant  |     Bitnet: JBotz@mhc.bitnet
Mount Holyoke College        |      Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
South Hadley, MA, USA        | Snail Mail: J. Botz, 01075-0629

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: dmiller@dragon.tricity.wsu.edu (David L. Miller)
Subject: Kerberos5b2 include/krb5/config.h empty
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 04:30:23 GMT

I am attempting to compile the Kerberos 5 beta 2 distribution on a 
DECstation 5000/125 running Ultrix 4.3.  I have tracked the problem back to
the files include/krb5/config.h and include/krb5/osconf.h being empty.  Does 
ring a bell with anyone?

-- 
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From: alan@curta.cc.columbia.edu (Alan Crosswell)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
Subject: Re: Moira client
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:32:14 GMT
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Dec10.234739.9133@ericsson.se> monica@netman.ericsson.se  
(Monica Bouchibane) writes:
> I'm trying to include Moira (SMS) in our kerberized environment,
> but I'm having some problems with the moira client(s)
> 
> The serverside seems to be running OK, but whenever I try to start
> the client (moira, dcmmaint, listmaint....) I have mainly two things 
> showing up.
> .....moira: Kerberos error: Can't decode authenticator 
> .....Authorization failed -- please run kinit
> .....Exit 1
> 
> or 
> 
> .....gdb: g_try_connecting...  'moira.netman:sms_db' is not a valid  
host:server
> .....moira: Can't connect to Moira server 
> .....Connection to Moira server failed
> .....Exit 1
> 
> I've tried different 'styles' of the env variable MOIRASERVER, but he doesn't
> like anything.
> 
> Don't know if the database need some additional information
> Kerberos server needs something more/else
> 
> Errors when I compiled the package.
> 
> I've 'followed' the documentation , but I'm not able to find any answers in  
there for this 'last' :-) thing.
> 
> ANY!!!!! information would, as usual, be highly appreciated.
> 
> /Monica Bouchibane
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> + Monica Bouchibane               EMAIL: monica@ericsson.se   +
> + Ericsson Data Services          PHONE: +31 (0)1612 29473    +
> + Rijen, The Netherlands          FAX:   +31 (0)1612 27160    +

Check for principal name 'moira' vs. 'sms.'  As I recall, there are a couple
places in the code where these are used interchangeably.  This is probably
because after the code had been called sms for a while, they decided to
rename it Moira and some of the code still refers to it the old way.  The
easy fix is to create two princpals: "moira.myserver" and "sms.myserver" with
the same key.

/a
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Subject: Re: kerberos for ibm aix
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:49:49 GMT

I assume by "IBM AIX 3.1" you are talking about an RS/6000, right?
Which Kerberos V4 do you have?  Did you get the recent MIT release
(Patch 10, I believe)???  I know that MIT/Athena has Kerberos running
fine on the RS/6000, so if you use the recent code I doubt you'll have
any problems with it.

Hope this helps.

-derek

         Derek Atkins -- MIT '93 -- Electrical Engineering
--warlord@MIT.EDU | ..!mit-eddie!mit-athena!warlord | s20069@mitvma.bitnet
      Chairman, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
           MIT Media Laboratory, Speech Research Group

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: bagley@cc.vt.edu (Victor L. Bagley)
Subject: patches
Reply-To: Victor Bagley<bagley@bagley.cc.vt.edu>
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:56:34 GMT

If I get the dist/921209 kerberos software from Athena.mit.edu,  
Should I then run patch on patchlevel 10 using the  
cukrb4.niospell.patch from Columbia.  If so has anyone done this  
successfully?  I am trying ever so hard to port this software to a  
Next machine.  And no I am not ready to use the machine as a door  
stop. : )
Thanks....
From: nsysdbj@acs.ncsu.edu (David Joyner)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
Subject: Re: kerberos, imake, & rs/6000?
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:35:51 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jeff Hayward (jah@mojo.ots.utexas.edu) wrote:
: I'm sure this is some sort of rookie problem, but I'm not getting
: anywhere with it.  I'm trying to build Kerberos V4 pl 10 on an IBM
: rs/6000 running AIX 3.2.  The C pre-processor is complaining when
: imake hands it a line like /**/# <anything>, and the makefiles
: generated get errors from make complaining about missing separators.
: 
: Surely there's something simple I'm missing.  Can someone give me a
: clue?  Thanks.
: 

The C-preprocessor is probably barfing out on the # after the
comments.  I hacked my build to use a previously installed imake that
didn't have this problem.  There is probably another (better)
solution.  If you stick with the supplied imake, make sure
"REDUCED_TO_ASCII_SPACE" gets defined.

You will also run into other problems with the C compiler.  You would
do well to use "bsdcc" as outlined in /usr/lpp/bos/bsdport.

There are also some runtime problems under AIX 3.2.  The only ones I
can remember right now are:

	. the infamous malloc(0) returns NULL
	. file locking is attempted on files that were not
	  opened O_RDWR.

I could probably kludge together my changes if you are interested.

--
David Joyner (nsysdbj@acs.ncsu.edu)
Unix Systems Programmer                            | Phone: (919) 515-2794  |
NCSU Administrative Computing Services             | FAX:   (919) 515-3787  |
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: asdzcga@a18.as.posten.se (Christer Galaras)
Subject: kerberos_code
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 22:18:33 GMT

Hello !
I am interested in securing and control systems that
would suit our open computer enviroment with Unix 
computers and TCP/IP networks. Because of that we in
Sweden Post Administration Service-Data are intersted
in kerberos source code f|r testing in our network.
Could you please tell us in whitch way we can get our
hands on kerberos. We would be gratefull f|r a quick 
answer.

With regards
Chirster Galaras
Sweden Post

	/Christer Galaras
	Mail: asdzcga@as.posten.se
	Memo: POSTEN.DGA.ASDZCGA
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: bagley@cc.vt.edu (Victor L. Bagley)
Subject: installation  step 4 make world
Reply-To: Victor Bagley<bagley@bagley.cc.vt.edu>
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:37:58 GMT

bagley.cc.vt.edu> make world
make  clean-imake
make  Makefile
rm -f Makefile.bak; mv Makefile Makefile.bak
imake -I./util/imake.includes -TImake.template -DNEW_TOP=. -s  
Makefile
make  Makefiles
Make: Makefile: Must be a separator on line 11.  Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
bagley.cc.vt.edu> 

bagley.cc.vt.edu> 


I keep the above error when I try to do the make world.  I am using  
the 921209 version of the software.  Can anyone shed some light on  
what I am doing Wrong?  Thanks 
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: bagley@cc.vt.edu (Victor L. Bagley)
Subject: patch for the Next
Reply-To: Victor Bagley<bagley@bagley.cc.vt.edu>
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:40:57 GMT

I started applying the patch and received the error listed below.  So  
now what is the problem?  Thanks......

Checking to see how well your C compiler groks the void type...

  Support flag bits are:
    1: basic void declarations.
    2: arrays of pointers to functions returning void.
    4: operations between pointers to and addresses of void  
functions.

It appears to support void fully.
Your void support flags add up to what? [7] 

 

Now, how can we feed standard input to your C preprocessor...
Maybe "/lib/cpp" will work...
Nope, maybe "/lib/cpp -" will work...
No such luck...maybe "cc -E" will work...
Nixed again...maybe "cc -E -" will work...
Nope...maybe "cc -P" will work...
Nope...maybe "cc -P -" will work...
Hmm...perhaps you already told me...
Uh-uh.  Time to get fancy...
Trying (cat >/tmp/$$.c; cc -E /tmp/$$.c; rm /tmp/$$.c)
Configure: (cat: not found
No dice.  I can't find a C preprocessor.  Name one: /lib/cpp-precomp
Sorry, I can't get that to work.  Go find one.
bagley.cc.vt.edu> 

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos,news.software.nntp
From: tgt@cbtgt.cb.att.com (Tim Thompson)
Subject: kerberized NNTP?
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:59:06 GMT

Subject says it all. Is anyone working on a kerberized version of NNTP?
I need some sort of authentication scheme built into NNTP to do user-level
authorization for newsgroup access. NNTP currently only does host-level
authentication and authorization. There are some hooks for user-level stuff,
but I think it required passwords to be kept in clear text on each NNTP
client.

Anyone doing any work along this line?

					Tim Thompson
					tim.g.thompson@att.com
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
Subject: V5 equivalent of KRBTKFILE
Date: 16 Dec 1992 14:15:43 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pit-manager.mit.edu

In the MIT V5 distribution, is there an application-transparent way to tell the
Kerberos libraries to use a different ticket cache, i.e., something equivalent
to what KRBTKFILE does in V4?

I did some source digging and couldn't find anything.  Did I miss it, or is it
not there?  If the latter, are there any plans to add something like this, and
if so, have the details been codified?

Thanks,

-- 
Jonathan Kamens                                         jik@MIT.Edu
MIT Information Systems/Athena              Moderator, news.answers
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos