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From: dunham@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Pirated software
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:51:18 GMT
Reply-To: dunham_jerry@tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: dunham@serpens


How's this for an inflammatory post?

I admit to owning several pieces of pirated SW, although none have been
acquired recently and none are in current use.  I have always treated such
acquisitions as shareware: try 'em out to see if they're worthwhile and go
buy a real copy if repeated use appears likely.  If I don't use them I don't
destroy them, I just stash them for posterity.  Is this illegal?  I'm sure
it is, but I fail to see how it runs counter to the author's benefit.  I
have bought SW because of this that I would not have otherwise, and I have 
not failed to buy SW that I would have otherwise, so how have I damaged the
authors?  The goal of all this copyright stuff is to see that an author
gets to benefit from the fruits of his efforts, nicht wahr?

By contrast, I must admit that I have a couple of bits on my ST that are
shareware and are being used regularly that I have not paid for.  My excuse
is that they are of some age and it is a bunch of trouble to go find the
author so I can pay him.  That's not a good excuse and I do intend to make
things right.  In fact, you may see me post here to see if anyone knows
where some of these folks are today.  Time to pursue it is the biggest
problem.

'Scuse me while I go don my asbestos suit....

                                        --Jerry Dunham
                                          dunham_jerry@tandem.com

-- 
Jerry Dunham                                        dunham_jerry@tandem.com
Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
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From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: A dumb question!
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 09:18:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

It's my understanding a lot of the software developed by Atari was done
on mainframes (DEC PDP-11's?) using terminals. I've heard Wilkinson did
DOS XE on his trusty 1200XL & I imagine a lot of stuff developed after
the creation of tools like the Assembler/Editor cartridge was done on the
8-bit. Heck, I even have cross assembler for my clone. it'll do everything
from RCA 1802 to Rockwell 65C02. I don't use it, but I can understand why
other people would. Boot up your favorite WP to edit your code with 80
column full screen scrolling then pop into the command line to generate
the .OBJ file. If you have a local library that has either Dr. Dobb's
Journal or Steve Cicara <sp?> Circuit Cellar, check them out. They both
have cross development packages advertised that'll give you an idea of
what's available for different target processors.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.8bit:3969 comp.sys.atari.st:11888
From: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari 1029 printer
Keywords: Yes, 1029.
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:14:41 GMT
Reply-To: dunham_jerry@tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.

In article <1992Jul30.090855.11721@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John) writes:
]
]I saw this at B&C Computervisions in Santa Clara, an Atari 1029
]printer. It's a dot matrix printer, it looks like a C. Itoh
]Prowriter (?) clone.
]
]As I recall, Atari never offered the 1029 in the US, I never saw it
]in any literature, or saw it at Federated.
]
]The 8 bit printers that I know that were released were the;
]820 40 column dot matrix
]822 40 column thermal, with plotting
]825 80 column parallel
]1020 color plotter
]1025 80 column SIO
]XDM121 daisy wheel
]

This looks like the beginnings of another section of the FAQ, or even its
own list.  Would you be willing to be the KotL for this info?  I'm sure
newcomers would be interested in a list of all the major products for the
Atari 8-bits along with a one-line description, starting with the products
of Atari itself.  This should also include such almost products as the
1450XL.  Or does this list exist somewhere already so that I'm just dis-
playing my ignorance?


-- 
Jerry Dunham                                        dunham_jerry@tandem.com
Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: kcd@defender.ecn.purdue.edu (Kent C De La Croix)
Subject: Thorn EMI War Games vs. Thorn EMI Computer War
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:35:20 GMT

chase@electron.rutgers.edu (Kevin Chase) writes:

>          Thorn EMI         War Games

Well I have Thorn EMI's Computer War cartridge (THA12010) which
definitely seems based on the movie War Games and I am wondering if
these are the same game.  Did Thorn EMI release it as "War Games" and
get into trademark/copyright troubles and change the name?

I haven't played "Computer War" in years put as I remember you are
shown a map of the US showing missle tracks coming in, you selected one
of the missles and were put in a gun turrent with a somewhat 3-D view
where you could turn the turrent left-right and move the gun up and
down to try and shoot down the missle zipping across the screen.  Each
missle you failed to shoot down raised failed to shoot down raised your
DEFCON level by one and if it reached DEFCON 5 thermo-nuclear war borke
out and you lost.  There may have been some kind of "bonus" round but I
don't remember for sure.  Anyway does this sound like the same game as
"War Games"?  --Kent

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Kent C. De La Croix			Engineering Computer Network (ECN)
Purdue University			EMAIL: kcd@ecn.purdue.edu
1285 Electrical Engineering Building	       ...!rutgers!pur-ee!kcd
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1285 USA	PHONE:(317)494-3546  FAX:(317)494-6440
From: mabu@delight.uucp (Markus Buhland)
Subject: Re: Stuff left for sale
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:18:22 +0100
Distribution: comp
Organization: Public access Mnet, Berlin --- Germany.
X-Version: Pnews v2.42f


In article <55005@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu writes: 





















]
]          Super Huey           -  $7.00
]
]          Page Designer        -$8.00
]
]          Dropzone              -  $2.00  
]
]          Deep Blue C w/mathlib  - $12.00
]
]          Colourspace            - $6.00
]
]
]
]  I  ALSO HAVE THE FOLLOWING HARDWARE FOR SALE:
5d
]
]          Xetec Grafix Parallel Printer Interface  $15.00
]      
]          BRAND NEW!!  65XE        $60
]
]          TWO 1050'S  ONE GREAT, ONE OK    45  OR  38 DOLLARS DEPENDING
]
]          
]
]                                
]
]                                                        JODY LENN
]                                                     lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu



Hello Jody Lenn

I have want by the 65XE BUT I LIVE IN GERMANY ! I don't now to make the 
deal have you an idea ??????

Bye Mabu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: brs@cs.brown.edu (Brian Stormont)
Subject: atari 800 monitor cable
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:59:52 GMT


Does anyone have the pinouts of the atari 800 monitor jack? I seem to have lost
my only cable.

Brian
From: a644690c@edinboro.edu ("Adam J. Conover")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SDX Users?
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:40:45 GMT

Hi,

I am wondering how many people happen to own SDX (or other versions of
Sparta DOS)?  Since ICD refuses to release any specifics about SDX it would
be nice to pool our knowlegde.  I would like to start a little Sparta DOS
FAQ that would include E-mail Addresses for regular users of Sparta DOS
as well as any programming/use info that users may wish to post.  I would
be willing to periodically post (to c.s.a.8.) and update this info.
I would also like to maintain a small collection of Files that are for
use with SD (utilities, demos, etc.).

If you own SDX (or any Sparta DOS) and are interested in this, please
send me e-mail.

Things I am looking for:

	E-mail addresses of Sparta DOS users.
	Are you more interested in Development or Use.
	What Version of Sparta DOS do you own.
	What other 'Advanced Equipment' do you own? (Hard-Drive, MIO, BB, etc.)
 
Even if only 5-10 people are interested in this, it would be interesting.
I think that between the many great minds of Atari Users, we could come up
with a lot of information.

Peace,                               | '...expanding exponentially
-Adam Conover                        |  like some recursive virus...'
    a644690c@edinboro.edu            |                         -Phish.
From: potter@sunny0.dab.ge.com (Jeff Potter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Fax/modems
Keywords: Fax, modem
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:38:38 GMT
Organization: General Electric SCSD, Daytona Beach FL

Well I've posted some inquiries to GEnie and CompuServe with some
scattered responses, so I'll try here:

Would many of you loyal Atari 8-bit users here want to be able to
send/receive faxes from your 8-bit?  I've collected some info about
the subject, and talked to a few technical guys, and it appears to
be possible to interface one of the new fax/modems to the 8-bit (using
an 850, P:R:Connection, Black Box, MIO, etc.).  You would of course
have to obtain a fax/modem (I've seen them as low as $75 recently).

Writing the software and doing the testing is a lengthy effort, so I
don't want to consider it without some positive feedback on the subject.
I would propose creating the fax offline, with (among other things)
an editor, maybe using Daisy Dot III to format nicely, and possibly
importing images (graphics 8, 9, or 15, or scanned images in TIFF).
The send program would read your created fax from disk, and send it
out to a fax or fax/modem.  The receive program would most likely go
directly to disk, allowing you to view the fax offline, or maybe print
it on your dot matrix printer offline.  Those of you familiar with my
APACVIEW and other graphics programs will realize how slow the old 6502
is at interpreting GIF images, so expect similar speed here (1-3 minutes
to display a reduced resolution image).

I don't expect to get to a project like this right away, but I thought
this might spawn some worthwhile discussion...

-- 
Jeff Potter
....potter@sunny0.dab.ge.com
....74030.2020@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: tgreen@iastate.edu (Todd Greenfield)
Subject: Re: I wanna buy some stuff
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:49:43 GMT

In <Bs42sz.1x7@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:


>In article <9207281426.AA11184@brachot.jct.ac.il> bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay Chamie1) writes:
>>I've accidentally fed my Indus GT's power supply with 220 A/C volts...
>>I need a new one!! Where? How much?

>The power supply on my Indus GT was frotzed several years back. I
>replaced it with a 12VDC unit from Radio Shaft. As I recall, the max
>current rating on the RS supply was a bit lower than that on the
>original Indus supply, but it's been working fine for years now so I
>don't hesitate to recommend it. I don't have the exact catalog number
>handy (I can go home and look if you like), but it's the black plastic
>12VDC power supply (maybe 1A current). They also sell a couple others in
>gray metal cases, but these a) cost a heck of a lot more, and b) have
>more current than you need, and thus are overkill.

I bought a used Indus w/o the power supply, and I just bought 
an unregulated 12v supply for about $5 (can't remember where).
I looked inside the drive - there is a voltage regulator and a 
big capacitor, so you don't need to be as picky with the power
supply as you would for an 800xl for example.  All you really
need is a transformer and rectifer.  Don't know how much current
it draws.

-- 
Todd Greenfield
tgreen@iastate.edu
From: bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay Chamie1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: 2600 hack
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:28:51 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:28:33 EET DST

If the 2600 game system was such a large hunk of crap, what was it doing in
the marketplace in the first place?                             - Itay
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SIO port protocol
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:21:57 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

I assume you are talking about building a RS-232 serial port and a
Centronics compatible parallel port for your 8bit directly from the SIO
port.  Sorry to say, but you will be major money ahead to buy something
like the P:R: Connection.  The SIO port doesn't have the correct voltages
or data lines to simply assemble a cable with a SIO connector on one end
and a RS-232 connector on the other end.

Going from a RS-232 line to a SIO device (as in the ST-Xformer) is another
story.  It is much easier to drop from RS-232 12volt signals to SIO 5volt
signals, AND not too much more than the data lines and software polling
signals are needed to send/receive from SIO devices.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Wanted: Memory Cards for the 800
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:45:28 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I have an old 800 which used to have 48k, but a chip blew (for the second
time) on my 32k board, so now it's only got 16K.  If anyone has extra
memory cards left over from upgrading one to 256k (No, I don't know
how to do that, though it may be a good topic to include in the FAQ),
I would be willing to payshipping and maybe a little more.  (I'm a
grad student, so $$$ is tight :-(  .)

E-mail me if you're interested.

--PC

pc@dartmouth.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: aa763@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William Beavis)
Subject: alt real dungeon: stuck
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 03:49:28 GMT


  can anyone help me.  i have gotten to the fourth level in 
  alternate reality dungeon.  there is a gargoyle with this riddle. 
  i would appriciate any clues or even the answer, because as far
  as i can tell it is the only thing left for me to do.
                               thanks
--
From: lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jody Lenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE FOR SALE!!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:32:49 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I have the following hardware for Sale:
          65XE  Brand New  -  $60

          2 (1050's)  One newer and quieter $45  One older but works fine $
                         w/Dos 2.5 or Mydos your choice

          Xetec Grafix Printer Interface   $15


Books:  Mapping the Atari (w XL/XE maps)  $7
        Computes Atari Graphics  $6
        Computes Second and Third Books of Atari  $5 each
        Analog Compendium  $5 (lots of type in programs)
        Creative Atari   $5
 

I have the following program disks for sale:

          Kampffgruppe:    $13

          Alternate Reality: Dungeon - $12

          Music Const. Set  -  $8.00

          Pinball Const. Set - $8.00

          Summer Games      -  $5.00

          Zaxxon            -  $5.00  (800 only, FIX-XL, translator don't 
                                       work!!!!!!!)  (no docs)

          Suspended         -  $3.00  (Original, lost docs)

          Mail Order Monsters  - $7.00

          Super Huey           -  $7.00

          Page Designer        -$8.00

          Dropzone              -  $2.00  

          Deep Blue C w/mathlib  - $12.00


         All items have docs unless otherwise mentioned.


          
                   Buyer pays shipping on all items. 
                                

                                                        JODY LENN
                                                     lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: un035513@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Blue Max
Date: 26 Jul 92 09:20:26 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Distribution: usa
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <BrwE09.4ur@news.larc.nasa.gov>, dfdaly@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov (Dennis F. Daly) writes:
> Hi, this is my first post to c.s.a.8, I've read the group for some time, and
> I've thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it.  But on to the subject at hand.
> 
> After about a four year hiatus, I've setup my 8 bit and I've taken it upon
> myself to rediscover this wonderful machine.  Looking through my software, 
> I've come across one that puzzles me.  I have the disk version of Blue Max
> and I recall how to do everything except the key(s) to press when I come to
> a runway and want to land.
> 
> I haven't played this game in some time and my memory is fuzzy.  Let me tell
> you, this is the original disk, not a copy, and I have misplaced (read lost)
> the manual, so no flames please.
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 					Dennis Daly
> 					dfdaly@tab00.larc.nasa.gov

IF I remember right, all you have to do is press the joystick button after the
high pitch runway "Warbal" sound and your speed will automaticly decrease. 
Hope this helps.
		a.centofanti
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Writing A Disassembler
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:18:11 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

A follow on to an earlier message - 
If you are interested in Assembler, the MAC65 already supports the 65C02
and the folks who introduced the 65816 upgrade wrote MAC65 macros to
support the 16bit mode.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
From: Michael.Fitzpatrick@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Michael Fitzpatrick)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: A dumb question!
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:57:00 -0600

You are correct whenyou say OS/A+ was written  on an Apple II computer. You are
also correct about Atari DOS and Atari Basic.  It is referenced in the OSS book
OS/A+ "Systems Software for Apple and Atari computers" by OSS Inc., circa 1982,
Chapter 1, page 1, paragraph 1.

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Still prefer DOS 3
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:57:42 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

In a message dated Thu 23 Jul 92 21:06, Mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (mark New
wrote:

 MN> After buying a single density DOS, and not wanting to pay to
 MN> upgrade the 1050 to double density (hell, just buy more disks)
 MN> therefore making the purchase of SpartaDOS irrevelant (SmartDOS was
 MN> a DD DOS anyway), I am pleased with DOS 3. It does the job.

Actually there is a very good reason to upgrade a 1050 drive - speed.

Aside from better organized storage with SpartaDOS (subdirectories, etc.)
the single best thing about this DOS is drive speed.  Once you get used to
read and writes occuring in 1/3 of the time (including boots) you'll never
want to wait while a stock 1050 grinds it out again.

AND if you go all the way to SpartaDOS X on a XL/XE with more than 128K you
will find the most memory available of any DOS.  This is really nice for
applications that dynamically use RAM for a buffer like TextPro.

Also, in terms of just buying more disks - some of the graphics packages
limit you to the number of images that fit on one disk (like Print Power),
therfore the more disk space available, the more images you can work with.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SDX Users?
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 22:58:26 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I use SDX, although not as often as some people nor even as often as I
once did. 

I also have an example somewhere that shows SDX's XIO commands, from BASIC,
misbehaving as compared to running the same program under Atari DOS.  Re-
mind me via e-mail if there's any interest; it'll take me a while to find
it.

Chris Chiesa
  Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Does Elvis own an Atari 8-bit?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 10:16:10 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

bd891@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Allwood) writes:

> 
> Well does he?
> GO ATARI
> GO ATARI
> GO ATARI
> GO ATARI
> GO ATARI
> GO ATARI
> 
SOMEbody was pretty bored!!!    :)

    "Be seeing you!"
Say|____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
Hi |PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
if |moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
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NJ!|                     July 29, 1992
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: alt real dungeon: stuck
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:13:23 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.

In article <63119@cup.portal.com> Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com writes:
>If you chose to fight the
>Dragon, be ready for a major fight. I think he(she?) has 800-900 HPs. I
>managed to win one by having 2 or 3 gold horns, a dozen crystals, wands, &
>a fully charged guild ring, but I used EVERYTHING up & only had 20 or 30 HPs
>left myself.

Hm?  You kill the dragon by using an invulnerability sharp, blunt, and fire,
all at the same time....
--
I am of course experienced in teaching and have read the writings of Socrates.
    -- Ed Nilges

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Hard drive files
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:39:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.201615.24471@neb> bbs@neb (BBS System) writes:
>How do you get an executable DISK program to run/copy/load from a hard
>drive partition? I use the old Supra Interface, and I know of no way to
>do such a thing - save formatting my drive1 (fake floppy partiition on
>my HD) and undiscomming the program to drive1...
>-----
>Posted by BBS User: James King

That's probably the easiest way to do it.  The Black Box interface lets you
define up to 96 partitions for this purpose.  I have an MIO (256k) and a 20
meg HD, and I don't often bother with boot disk programs.  When I do, I just
boot from the floppy.

Bill Marcum

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit