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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (62)
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 9) Martin Bormann (Neal)

	One of Hitler's top aides, who may or may not have died in the last
	days of the Third Reich.  Rumors have persisted for decades that he
	escaped from Germany with many secrets and even more money, and was
	living in luxury in Bolivia or Paraguay or some other Fascist paradise.

	I don't know whether that's true or not.  Nor do I recall the context
	in which I mentioned this loathsome man.

13) Heffalumps/HRP (Neal)

	'Heffalump' is sort of a garble for 'elephant.'  Winnie-the-Pooh (or
	some other character in Milne's stories) used the term.  The elephant,
	of course, is the symbol of the Republican Party.

	HRP is H. Ross Perot, Presidential candidate of the One Man's Huge
	Egotrip Party.  Hey, what's his 'real' first name?  And did you see the
	profile of General Stockdale, his running mate, in the NYT?  The guy's
	basically uninterested in politics -- he's writing a book on the Greek
	Stoic philosophers.

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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Test your newbieness!!

Brilliant, tushar. Just brilliant.  Now, maybe you can tell me how someone at
an bitnet-only site can create an internet address from which to mail santa
messages. I, for one, would be interested in knowing how to send these neat
trifles that you're so adept at sending.  Maybe I can be Dayman to your
Niteman.

Whadda ya say?

Chris
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Subject:      Coast to Coast
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Steve wrote:

>Yes, driving coast-to-coast through the Nullarbor Plain would take
>something out of you, wouldn't it?  I suppose a compartment on the
>Indian-Pacific would bust the budget, wouldn't it?

I didn't go on my own.... I had three kids with me. Finances were so tight
that I had to borrow petrol money off my sister to come home... so the
Indian Pacific was definitely out of the question. At the time it was a
spur of the moment thing..... I needed to get away - things were closing
in on me here, so I just loaded up the car with kids and food and took
off.

>Forgive my ignorance, but did you have to contend with any mountains
>along the way?  It's possible to drive coast-to-coast in the States
>without encountering any mountain ranges, but the most direct routes
>go up and over several.

The only mountains I had to cross over were in The Great Dividing Range - once
passed them there was nothing major on the way over, but coming back I made
a few detours through some of the other mountain ranges including the
Flinders Ranges in South Australia..... but that was mainly for a change of
scenery..... all that flat earth gets a bit monotonous after a while.

Carolyn
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: stupidity
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>
> Natalie said it right.  You have a strange (and not very funny, imo) sense of
> humor.  Take your silly game and go home.  You've got my vote as the most
> tactless idiot on the list.
>
> Chris
>
This is *exactly* what you said to me about five months ago, and I
told you then there would be *no* second date.  I still feel that
way.  Sorry.
.
> p.s. yes, you did drive judith off the list.  I would dearly love to post what
> she said. Courtesy prevents me from doing so.

I've already heard it.  I am truly sorry if I offended her.  But I do
not accept that I have the power to drive *anyone* off this list or
any other.  Everybody has a DELETE key.
I am not in the running for most popular, you know.  And I am not
going to put *you* on my dance card.
--ggs
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)

(Late as usual...  "Samuel D. Dawg ate my floppy!"  Yea, they'll buy that...)
19)  Silver Chariot of Doom (John Wm.)
        Uncle Giggles Mazda Miata Opossum-Oppressor, with the genuine
        imitation vinyl [for the Look Of Real Wood] and sneeze-through
        wind vents.  I'd prefer a Navajo, but, hey, that's just *my*
        mid-life crisis!
20)  Curtiss SB2C  (John Wm.)
        Type of plane Da Prez flew in WWII.  With an empty weight of over
        11,000 it was as large as many twin-engine planes of the period
        and twice as heavy as the much-loved preceeding Douglas SBD.  As
        mentioned, it was called a Son-of-a-Bitch 2nd Class.  On land it
        cracked runways...

                Scout           Scout
                Bomber          Bomber
                2[nd model]
                Curtiss         Douglas         [manufacturers]

Whereever you are be thankful you're not ending September in Arizona:  It's
still over 100 deg/F (108 yesterday) and remember, that's in the SHADE!!!
And the damn whiteflies have eaten all my myoporum and are starting on the
hybiscus, not to mention doubling both the price of lettuce and admission
rates for inhalation-induced pneumonia, rant rave slobber fall over pass out...

John "Crazy From The Heat" W.

"I took it to be a mirage at first
 it'll fool a thirsty man -
 but I tell you I just couldn't believe it
 when I saw that water pump..."
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Subject:      Hi from Joseph!

giio-- um,jmolsdeph

Don, here.   let me interpret that..those characters above were made by
Joseph Bode, 3 and 3/4 months old!!!  Now, he has to be the youngest
poster on WORDS-L, even if he had a hard time selecting the right keys -
he was using his whole fist, not just a single finger ....but what the
heck not bad for a youngster!

His proud mother (Debi), who I warned I would make a computer nerd of
baby Joseph, is sitting here next to me ...kind of proud of her little son!

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Subject:      Don, Trying to Combat Local Vocal Instrusion

From: Don Moore      (813) 974-4078   S/C 574-4078

Words from Calvin Coolide:
  If we keep our faith in ourselves, and what is even more important, keep our
faith in regular and persistent application to hard work, we need not worry
about the outcome.
  One of the greatest mysteries in the world is the success that lies in
conscientious work.
  There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independency quite so
important, as living within your means.
  Any reward that is worth having only comes to the industrious.

Ahhhh....peace and quiet .....this is no way to start a morning!  (VERY
noisy, grating, conversation has finally left my doorway!!!)

                            Peace,
                                  Don
From: TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815))
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Subject: Re: Gleanings (62)
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:33:00 GMT
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'Natura non facit saltum'

Latin, "Nature does not make leaps."  It's the motto of Alfred
Marshall's _Principles of Economics: An Introductory Volume_, and
it appears on the title page of the Eighth Edition (London:
Macmillan 1936)

Marshall was one of the early economists to make systematic use
of marginalist principles in economic analysis, which paved the way
for Paul Samuelson's _Foundations of Economic Analysis_, a PhD
thesis that identified the essential calculus tools and theorems
many working economists now use.

Marshall's _Principles_ would not work well as an introductory
volume today: there are no graphs and all the printing is black on
white.

Steve Karlson

"We might as reasonably dispute whether it is the upper or the under
blade of a pair of scissors that cuts a piece of paper, as whether
value is governed by utility or cost of production."

Marshall, p. 348
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mama Judith
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Obviously, some people on the list thought it was a joke and others
didn't.  Why didn't the latter speak up before?  Or tell ggs about it off-
list, instead of waiting until the end?  The first sign that people were
upset (on the list, don't know if it was discussed off list) was when
Judith left.  And Bayla and Chris spoke up a while later.  I wish they had
said something sooner, this could have been avoided if it was known that
there were such strong feelings about the "game".

Did people read Tushar's long post couple of weeks back where he said he
didn't mean it when he swore or said "Shut up, bozo"?  About the list being
an outlet, and very different from everyday interactions. Isn't that the
point here?  Sheesh, what do we know about someone's "real" life?  The
comments (in jest, or otherwise) were about people's list selves, what was
available for observation here.

Unfortunately, some people saw it as a game and others didn't, two rather
incompatible interpretations.  Never expected anyone to take whatever
characterization seriously.

rashmi

Couldn't stay away, Anne!
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Subject:      when you type them in by hand somtimes they get lost (the
              subjects)
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=They're dropping like flies!

=-abh

How's the blue-kadelic psycha-rocka-rocka old folks' dance marathon
going?

S
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From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Something (somewhat) serious.

>Cheyah, right, as if!
>
>-abh

I assure you that every sentence in there is as per my knowledge true.

tushar
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Oh, I recognised it when I saw it, tushar, but it took me a few
days to find the original file.

G
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Sunrise, sunset...

Carolyn,

> One week (in Perth) was not long enough for me to adjust,
> but that may have had more to do with having driven the 5,000 miles over
> there and having passed through three timezones on the way, all in 5 days.
> Jet-lag would have been preferable.

Yes, driving coast-to-coast through the Nullarbor Plain would take
something out of you, wouldn't it?  I suppose a compartment on the
Indian-Pacific would bust the budget, wouldn't it?

Forgive my ignorance, but did you have to contend with any mountains
along the way?  It's possible to drive coast-to-coast in the States
without encountering any mountain ranges, but the most direct routes
go up and over several.

Steve Karlson

Lift the tax on sailboats!
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From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Speeding
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I suspect you don't understand the meaning of 'reckless driving', if
you think that combining it with 'deliberate pre-meditated' forms an
oxymoron.  Funny, and i thought you were a lawyer with a fine ear
for words.  How about "driving without due care and attention"?

G
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      RE: I may have been sleeping

>>> This from a fellow who last week on his show argued that blacks have
>>> prospered under the Reagan and Bush administrations.

>>Marty, before you make a comment like that, check your facts carefully.
>>What information do you have to refute Buckley's claim?

(testy ad hominem diatribe omitted)

> demonstrate that blacks have made economic progress relative to rest of
> the population between 1980 and the present.

>Let's look at a single statistic from the Statistical Abstract ofthe
>United States, 1991 edition: Median family income in constant dollars by
> race of householder (in 1989 dollars)

> Year     All families      White      Black
> 1980     31,637            32,962     19,073
> 1989     34,213            35,975     20,209

Median, Marty.  How does a statistic based on a median challenge the
claim Buckley made, which may for all I know be based on gains
people with above-median incomes made?

Steve Karlson

Statistics are like bikinis: what they reveal is interesting, what
they conceal is more important.
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      It may be time for me to go...
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Well, guys, it looks like I may have to unsub.  The recent
problems we've been having with getting internet mail are
related to the volume of incoming mail, so it looks like
I'll have to unsub, and look into other options, like
Netcom, etc.  If anyone has recommendations, please let
me know by private mail.  I will be unsubbing either later
today, or tomorrow, so TTFN (Akio:  Ta-ta for now, from
Winnie the Pooh).

It's been fun...hopefully (!) I'll be back.

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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>>No, Tushar, this is e-space where I meet my friends for civilized
>>conversation. This is the place where I feel least-obliged to have
>>a separate persona, and having met many of the people on the list,
>>I prefer this, thank you very much.
>
>Well said, Karen.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

OK, let me just say right now that phrases like "civilized conversation"
don't even bloody amuse me too much nowadays.

tushar
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From:         IDISAVINOH%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: still a loser
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Hey Marty:

   I just don't like Clinton's proposals.  It has nothing to do with the fact
that he was not commander in chief of VMI.  Relax dude!  Your playing too hard
on this VMI stuff.  Seriously, I would like to know your opinion on Clinton!

                       Thanks:

                          Howie-D
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              "WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Sep 26, 92 2:08 am

> Assorted flavours or are you willing to trust my taste and get the
> whole batch of chocolate-walnut-flavour?

Sounds good to me.  Besides, anything with chocolate's bound to be edible.
>                                       (Any time I get a box with
> one of each kind (there's about a dozen) I always end up annoyed
> at getting so many bland vanilla ones.)

Yeah, vanilla's so *boring*.
> G
> PS Why all the rofling, hmmmm?

Dunno why but beefcake and fudge always does that to me.

rashmi
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harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU writes:
> I just heard that Stranger in a Strange Land is going to be made into a
> movie, with Bobcat Goldwaithe starring as Valentine Michael Smith. Go
> figure.

It will probably be a Dune for the 90's.

--karsten

(Still waiting for the film version of Midnight at the Well of Souls)
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From:         IDISAVINOH%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: still a loser
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Hey Nancy:

     This is Cadet DiSavino.  You know we only play and have fun.  We will
cease if it bothers you but I thought this server was for fun.  A lot of
people sterotype the cadets from VMI and sometimes I can see why but most of
the time we are never given a chance.  We go through a great deal just to get
here and go through even more to stay here.  Cut a break every once in awhile.
Were all human, at least most of us.  I apologize if any one was offended.  Of
course I only speak for myself.  Some cadets are true gentlemen.  Country is a
really good friend of mine.  He doesn't mean anything by what he says.  The
E-net automatically sterotyped us as "assholes" when we got on so we figured
we would play the part.  In actuality "Country" holds a pretty high position
in our Company here at VMI and is quite respected.  Anyway, enough said about
that.  I will try to refrain from using hostile language and offending anyone.
I, once again, only speak for myself.



                        Howie-D
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      dumb q
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Why do they ask for date of birth on the forms that accompany research
proposals?   After all, we attach a vita, which contains all the information
they may need, right?

Maybe it's obvious, but after staying up two nights and scrambling all week
to complete one, I just don't see why anybody would want that information.

Next time, I WILL have it ready at least one day before it's due...

a very pooped rashmi
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Subject:      Re: test

>>You know, after all the harping I did at Tushar yesterday, I got to thinking
>>about Anne.  So I sent her a message.  She pointed me in the right direction.
>>I was correct after all.
>>
>>Chris
>
>Methinks the lad doth protest too much...
>
>rashmi

That makes it two of us. The two ends of the perceptivity spectrum. Oh the
irony of it all ...

tushar
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Greetings,

Thanks for posting the information about Clinton's stint in private practice,
Alec.  Of course, it misses the point.  Clinton, after all, has never
managed to make a living as a small businessperson or oil entrepreneur after
the fashion of Georgie-boy.  After all, George is fond of recounting his
early years as a struggling oilman, with hardly anything to fall back
on other than the family values instilled in him by his papa, the
Senator from Connecticut and those years as a pitcher at Yale.  Why, except
for the last 30 years, during which George has been sucking swill at the
public trough, and the first twenty or so years of his life, during which
his papa did the same, George has always been a private citizen.  Now, of
course, his kids are the same--except when they're negotiating big loans
with the Small Business Administration to fund speculative ventures at
public expense.

Marty
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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Rashmi wrote:

>Just what I was going to ask!  I can understand lurking for a few weeks, but
>_a whole year_ is pretty darned amazing.  I mean, who could read the volume of
>mail this list generates and not say a word. Wow!

Well, I must admit that I had to remove the temptation by restricting myself
at first to only reading the newsgroup, since I knew there was at least a
24 hour delay at this end and therefore any posts I made would be 'obsolete'
by the time they were received by the list. When this didn't prove enough
to restrain me, I stopped reading the newsgroup and ftped the messages at
the end of each day. Since it takes a deliberate effort to reply to these
messages, this worked for a while. In the end, though, I couldn't stand it
any longer; reset mail and the inevitable happened. :-)

Carolyn
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: "But You Don't Have a Southern Accent"

>I almost forgot!  I was working in the Clinton-Gore office today with
>somebody I hadn't met before.  She asked me where I was from, and when
>I told her, she said, "But you don't have a Southern accent!"
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Obviously you really got into the spirit of the campaign season.
You are here trying once again to perpetuate one of your favorite
myths.

Michael E. Macmillan (macmillm@ewc)

P.S.  By the way, what's the current state of your answering machine
(aside from MS, of course)?  Maybe I just ought to call and listen
again.
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