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From: brendan@mullet.gu.uwa.edu.au (Brendan Langoulant)
Subject: Uses for the Amiga?
Keywords: Amiga
Organization: University Computer Club --- Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:32:02 GMT

I was just wondering, what do most you people use the amiga for?

Reply via email.

Brendan Langoulant
brendan@mullet.gu.uwa.edu.au

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From: alan@csource.oz.au (Alan Hughes)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: A2000/3000 prices in Oz
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1992 12:30:36 +1000

In a message of <Jul 14 02:56>, Matt (gbrmps.gov.au) writes:

 M> That is a ridiculous statement! You've got to look into the 
 M> overheads that Commodore have in making the 3000 or Amiga series.

 M> Reality Check - Clone vs. Amiga

 M> I consider my clone to be a fairly good quality one, it cost ~$3300
 M> without a monitor. To run an OS that's comaprable to the Amiga I had
 M> to add 4meg's of memory - add $240 to the price. Add another $240 for
 M> the OS/2 2.0 package. Disk Performance wasn't too good and the drive 
 M> was noisy, so I upgraded to a SCSI+Quantum drive - add $400.

486DX 33Mhz with 256KB secondary cache, 4MB RAM, 120MB HDD (Conner, quiet and
fast), FDD, Multi I/O, REAL MS-DOS 5, SVGA card and monitor (.28mm dot pitch,
non interlaced at 1024*768) for $2950.  Methinks you got ripped off rather
badly, shop around next time.  OS/2 2.0 can be had for under $200 in OZ (under
A$100 from US), and comparing OS/2 to AmigaDOS is like comparing Unix to
TRSDOS.

Also a 386-33 would be a fairer equivalent to the A3000, that would be about
$550-$600 cheaper, and if you still want the NDP that's only adds about $200.

>1) Custom chips, but Dave H. has pointed out that these cost C= less
>than $5 to produce.

 M> What about the development cost? Clone manufacturers pay nothing
 M> for the design process - they have nothing to do with it! 

Clone manufacturers still have to buy the chips from those who DID develop them
and will likewise want to recover development costs.

The A3000, like the rest of the Amiga range, is grossly overpriced, and thats
one of the reasons why they havent got a decent market share.

Alan.

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From: abeech@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Adrian Beech)
Subject: REPOST: AmigaUNIX support group?
Keywords: AmigaUNIX
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:22:04 GMT

Due to a slight problem with my E-Mail last week I lost a number of
responses to my original posting regarding an idea I had about forming
an AmigaUNIX support group.  To all those popel who did respond last 
week could you please re-e-mail me.



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From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: 1200/75 baud terminal program?
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:49:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
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In <1992Jul28.013700.23263@latcs1.lat.oz.au> sondhu@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Paul Sondhu) writes:
>Does anybody know of any Public Domain or shareware terminal program
>that can handle a 1200/75 baud rate?

NComm version 2.0 supports it. available via anonymous ftp from
quite a few sites, my favorite being amiga.physik.unizh.ch.


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From: roberts@g2syd.genasys.com.au (Robert Swan)
Subject: Re: A2000/3000 prices in Oz
Organization: Genasys II, Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:37:48 GMT

In article <711634553.F00001@csource.oz.au> alan@csource.oz.au (Alan Hughes) writes:
>In a message of <Jul 14 02:56>, Matt (gbrmps.gov.au) writes:
>
> M> That is a ridiculous statement! You've got to look into the 
> M> overheads that Commodore have in making the 3000 or Amiga series.
>
> M> Reality Check - Clone vs. Amiga
>
> M> I consider my clone to be a fairly good quality one, it cost ~$3300
> M> without a monitor. To run an OS that's comaprable to the Amiga I had
> M> to add 4meg's of memory - add $240 to the price. Add another $240 for
> M> the OS/2 2.0 package. Disk Performance wasn't too good and the drive 
> M> was noisy, so I upgraded to a SCSI+Quantum drive - add $400.
>
>486DX 33Mhz with 256KB secondary cache, 4MB RAM, 120MB HDD (Conner, quiet and
>fast), FDD, Multi I/O, REAL MS-DOS 5, SVGA card and monitor (.28mm dot pitch,
>non interlaced at 1024*768) for $2950.  Methinks you got ripped off rather
>badly, shop around next time.  OS/2 2.0 can be had for under $200 in OZ (under
>A$100 from US), and comparing OS/2 to AmigaDOS is like comparing Unix to
>TRSDOS.

More like comparing VMS to Unix (though these days Unix is getting a
serious case of bloat too - we just had to upgrade our HP to 96 Megs, 64
wasn't enough :-( ).  Some people want every feature imaginable.  Not
me.  I don't need thirty ways of doing something, I'm happy with one way
that I understand.

While we're on operating systems' relative merits...  MSDOS is clearly
better than TRSDOS, but it would be a close call compared to NEWDOS-80.
That old TRS-80 used to get quite a bit done in 32K :-).

As for the price and market share of the Amiga, I don't know that they
are all that closely related.  When I saw my first in '86, I simply had
to have it.  For other people, issues like compatibility and
acceptability are of more significance.  I consider the 3000 to be
excellent value at around $3000.  I wouldn't take a clone at half that
price thank you very much.  Some people consider the clone to be the
only way to go at around $2500, and wouldn't consider an Amiga for
any price.  I don't mind - I'm happy.

The Amiga has a lot of interesting things in its operating system.  I
use it to play with programming techniques that I may be able to apply
to Unix programming in the future (come OSF/1 - when, if you believe it,
Unix is meant to get _smaller_).  OS/2 may well be able to do the same
sort of stuff but nothing I've seen of it excites me.  IMHO it's headed
the way of TRSDOS.  Sad to think that even MSDOS will outlast it - let
alone MSWindows.

>Alan.
>
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From: Andrew.Scott@f357.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Scott)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: SAS address sought
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:07:00 +1000

Here is the address,
 
    300 Burns Rd
    Private Bag No. 52
    Lane Cove Nsw, 2066
    Phone: (02) 428 0428

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From: jim@lillee.cs.curtin.edu.au (Jim McGrady)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: 040 boards in Oz
Keywords: 040
Date: 31 Jul 92 06:14:21 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

Hi All

I have noticed in .hardware that Fusion Forty '040 boards for the A2000 can be
had for <$US1000 in the US. Does anyone know how much this (or an equivalent
040 board) retails for in Australia?

Also, How much will GVP's new 040 combo board sell for?

Thanks in Advance

Jim
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From: sondhu@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Paul Sondhu)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: 1200/75 baud terminal program?
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:37:00 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Originator: sondhu@latcs2.lat.oz.au


Does anybody know of any Public Domain or shareware terminal program
that can handle a 1200/75 baud rate?

thanks,
Paul.

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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Arrow Computers
Date: 17 Jul 92 05:15:54 GMT

Hello Zoltan!

Friday July 10 1992 02:39, Zoltan Schreter wrote to All:

 ZS> I am considering buying an "Arrow" 486/50 MHz.
 ZS> Does anyone has experience with "Arrow" computers?
 ZS> Are they OK in design?
 ZS> Don't they have too many problems?
 ZS> Is the warranty all right?
 ZS> The company producing "Arrows" is called Alldata in Victoria.

I suggest reading the Service and Reliability survey results in July92's
Australian Personal Computer. From memory, Arrow came in the last 5 for PCs.


Regards,
Hamish


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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: NEC 2A is it worth it ?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:44:33 GMT

dbegley@guinevere (David Begley) writes:

>89u7491@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>: 	Hi netland, I am after a Multisync monitor. I have my eyes on a well
>: priced NEC 2A. The only problem is the horizontal adjustment. ie. it leavs an
>: unexeptable vertical boarder. I have heard word that you can adjust this
>: internaly. Is this true ? What experience do yaz all have with this monitor.
>: Thanks in advance and awaiting reply in desperation.

>Sorry, I haven't had any experience with that particular model, but I can
>tell you that in general, the NEC product is worth the extra expense it
>often requires.

>I have an NEC ErgoDesign MultiSync 4FG right in front of me, and wouldn't
>trade it with anything else for the world (except, perhaps, an NEC 6FG
><grin>).

I have both a 2A and a 4D.  The 4D is an excellent monitor, the 2A is not.
First of all, the 2A is not a real Multisync monitor.  It is a dual
frequency VGA and 800x600.  Also, the 800x600 mode isn't very good because
it is refreshed at 56hz.  Most cheap SVGA monitors will handle 60hz at
this resolution, and good monitors will do 72hz.  Also, on my particular
2A, the picture is trapezoidal and rotated with respect to the front
bezel.  There is also ghosting sometimes when I use Windows at 640x480.
If I were you, I'd get a more recent design than the 2A.  The latest
cheapo monitors from Samsung and TVM  are proably better than the 2A.

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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: $25 network - info please
Date: 27 Jul 92 08:12:52 GMT

Hello Geoff!

Monday July 20 1992 02:37, Geoff Green wrote:

 GG> I have heard rumors about a thing called the $25 network.
 GG> So far all I have found out is that it can link 2 computers and 3 printers
 GG> at 300 baud.

300 baud? Wouldn't floppy disks be faster, after all, you can get 500kbps data
transfer rate to your floppy drive, plus a while to transfer the the other
machine... and just move your printer cable to another machine.. all faster than
300 baud :-)



Regards,
Hamish


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Subject: Local Bus
From: David.Gollogly@p0.f140.n772.z3.fido.nacjack.gen.nz (David Gollogly)
Date: 19 Jul 92 22:38:50 GMT
Organization: Infoboard BBS - Auckland - (09) 833-8788 - 

There's a brief piece in "PC Sources" April 1992 on this. "Opti", a Californian company make "local bus" chipsets. Apparantly you need a graphics board which supports it - Tseng Labs and Trident do. Here, Wang and PC General both use this technology. The article is on p77.
From: frehse@rmit.edu.au (John Frehse)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: Re: hard drives
Date: 21 Jul 92 03:21:49 GMT
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology

In article <17997286@nacjack.gen.nz> David.Gollogly@p0.f140.n772.z3.fido.nacjack.gen.nz (David Gollogly) writes:
>From: David.Gollogly@p0.f140.n772.z3.fido.nacjack.gen.nz (David Gollogly)
>Subject: hard drives
>Date: 18 Jul 92 13:11:34 GMT

>I'm looking to buy a new computer. Which is the beat brand hard drive in terms of speed and reliability? Also which is better out of SCSI and IDE?
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From: rda464v@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (S. Oxley)
Subject: Re: Tseng Labs 24bit SUPER-VGA card
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:52:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.051026.17420@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr W.J. Ho) writes:
>In <1992Jul27.035910.9543@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins760z@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (*** Irving Hofman **) writes:
>
>I had an evaluation of it a week ago. It does not have drivers for 24bit at

		  I think you mean memory on board the card --^^^^^^^

>any resolution above 640*480. The current batch of the cards does not run on
>NEC 3D monitors (even in DOS text mode, can't sync properly) but the supplier

I had no problem getting the card to synch properly with my AOC Multi-synch
_VGA_ monitor.  The only mode I can't use is 1280x1024 (outside my monitor's
bandwidth...)

>promised the new batch should be OK. Speed improvement? Not sure as it does not
>dramatically increase over the previous versions from Tseng Labs.

I can't comment on speed with Windows, but the card is about twice as fast as
my old Trident 8900 1Mb card.
>
>
>>Your comments would be greatly appreciated.
>>Regards,       
>>    Irving. 

>>Wey Jing Ho    Tel: 61-3-573-2567   E-mail : sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au<


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From: steve@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (Stephen Peter)
Subject: Re: Tseng Labs 24bit SUPER-VGA card
Reply-To: steve@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, University of New South Wales
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:49:24 GMT

In article 7319@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au, sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr W.J. Ho) writes:
>
>I have no problem running it with MOST SVGA monitors (Tystar, Compucon, etc
>etc) but it simply WILL NOT sync with NEC 3D (I tried 3 different NEC 3Ds).
>Design problems with NEC 3D or the card?
>
It works fine using a NEC 4D!


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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: $25 network - info please
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:28:24 GMT

Hello Geoff!

Monday July 27 1992 01:20, Geoff Green wrote:

 GG> BTW just installed webnet and is working fine :-)
 GG> thanks to Matthias Markus Lang for his copy of the sharewear version :)

Just wish he'd send me a copy.... MATT!!!! :-)
[ I know him :-) ]



Regards,
Hamish


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Subject: hard drives
From: Martin.Herring@p0.f140.n772.z3.fido.nacjack.gen.nz (Martin Herring)
Date: 20 Jul 92 21:55:10 GMT
Organization: Infoboard BBS - Auckland - (09) 833-8788 - 

DG>I'm looking to buy a new computer. Which is the beat brand
DG>hard drive in terms of speed and reliability? Also which is
DG>better out of SCSI and IDE?

Good question  It depends on what you want to do later.  There are heaps
of add ons that can take advantage of SCSI ie Tape drives but I have
also heard good reports on the reliability of IDE drives.   Tricky :-)
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From: robert@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Robert Coelen)
Subject: re: "Arrow" Computers
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:50:14 GMT

In article <supervisor.9.710830904@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.> supervisor@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au (Zoltan Schreter) writes:
>Hi everybody,
>
>Does anyone know the "Arrow" series of computers by Alldata in Vic?
>Are they reasonably OK?
>I am considering buying a 486/50 MHz Arrow.
>
>Thanks for answers
>
>Zoltan Schreter
>University of Tasmania at Hobart

We have been running an old 386/25 (Arrow) as our Netware
3.11 fileserver for the last year or so without a hitch.
It has only been down due to upgrades of hardware. The same cannot
be said for its predecessor, a NEC powermate 386/20, which
developed a headache in its memory (parity errors). Have you
ever considered upgrading or chnaging the memory in a NEC ?
Well, if you have a nearby river ....... and buy another 386
or 486 with more memory (essentially that's wot we did !)


Cheers



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From: 10793569@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (HO SHU LUNG)
Subject: How to install SuperStor?
Keywords: SuperStor v1.3, partition
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:09:23 GMT

	I recently obtained a copy of SuperStor v1.3 and tried to 
install it on my 486/33 PC. However, I am not sure if I have done the 
installation in the right way because it does not seem to be working. 
So I need your kind help. 

	What I want to achive is to increase the capacity of my 120MB hard 
disk.



Kevin HO
	
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From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr W.J. Ho)
Subject: Re: Tseng Labs 24bit SUPER-VGA card
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:10:26 GMT

In <1992Jul27.035910.9543@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins760z@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (*** Irving Hofman **) writes:

I had an evaluation of it a week ago. It does not have drivers for 24bit at
any resolution above 640*480. The current batch of the cards does not run on
NEC 3D monitors (even in DOS text mode, can't sync properly) but the supplier
promised the new batch should be OK. Speed improvement? Not sure as it does not
dramatically increase over the previous versions from Tseng Labs.

>I am considering purchasing the new 24bit card from Tseng Labs. I wish to use
>it under windows. I am particularly after the 72Hz 800x600 and 70Hz 1024x768
>modes. Is this a good card to get? Is is fast under windows? What are the
>drivers like? Is there a better card for a similar price?

>Your comments would be greatly appreciated.
>Regards,       
>    Irving. 


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From: Gary.Smith@p600.f1887.n952.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Smith)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: XT SPEED
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:04:00 +1000

Hey All!

Can anyone tell me what is involved in speeding up an XT? i.e. can you simply
replace the cpu with a faster (10Mhz) one? Also, is there any advantage in
upgrading the BIOS? The one in it is a fairly old(1985 Phoenix) one. I am
purchasing a 386DX in a few weeks but would like to hang on to the XT for use as
a testing ground for programming projects. It would be handy if I could improve
its performance. Also could someone tell me the technique (by netmail if it is
off topic...) disk compression programs such as Superstor use? I'm curious as to
whether the compressed file is expanded onto the hard disk or directly into
memory (when it is run).
Thanks in advance....

Hooroo...

Gary...{8^)

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From: pihlab@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: Re: New Computers
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:15:04 GMT
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

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>From: u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au (Anthony Thomas Cusack)
>Subject:New Computers
>Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:19:55 GMT
>Message-ID:<1992Jul31.011955.5503@cs.uow.edu.au>
>
>I am looking at getting a new computer to replace my Amiga 2000.
>
>The systems I am looking at are from a variety of manufacturers
>
>the basic system would be;-
>80x86 DX 33 - 40 MHz (x = 3 or 4)
>4 Meg Ram
>120 MByte HD  (IDE cause it's cheap)
>5.25 & 3.5 inch HD floppies
>1 Meg Video Card
>SVGA non interlaced monitor
>and the usuals dos .....
>
>Does this system offer the flexability and minimum configuration 
>that is required for uncomming versions of OS/2 and Windows NT
>when they arrive.
>
>What sort of prices should I be looking at, and from where.
>
>Any Horror stories would be appreciated - as would 
>free plugs from manufacturers, and satisfied customers
>If there is sufficent replies i will summarise and post to this group
>any advice greatly appreciated
>
>Mail to u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au
>
>
>WITH THANKS
>Anthony Cusack.

I recently got something similar to your configuration: a 33 80486 
but with 200Meg HD and 8 Meg RAM

If you've got the money go for 15 inch or larger SVGA non-interlaced monitor
and a SVGA video card suitable to drive it.

Can't plug the manufacturer as I haven't run it enough yet.

Cost me $4,000.

I got a 14 inch and its a bit small for 1024x756x256 and too small for
1280x1024x16.

Get at least 8 Meg of RAM.  Software comes out built for the current
configuration as a MINIMUM size so 4 Meg is a minimum.  Make sure you can
easily upgrade RAM on the motherboard.

Any more than 64K Secondary Cache on a 33 80386 is a waste (the 40 might
benfit from 128K Cache).  128K for the 33 80486 is good.  Try 256K Cache on a
50 80486 machine.

This should keep you happy for 3-4 years and then you can upgrade the whole lot
or just bits and pieces.

Bruce...        pihlab @ hhcs.gov.au
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