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From: mrharri@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Marissa Harrison)
Subject: Re: Minors right of access to contraceptives?
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:06:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.114810.20336@tcom.stc.co.uk> tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy) writes:
>
>As the father of a baby girl I don't have this problem to contend with
>just yet.
>
>I have two thoughts on the matter.  I DO think that sexual activity at
>school age is bad for the child's educational development as she or he
>will lose concentration.  Thus I would warn my Lauren if she started to
>get serious with a boy at age 14,  although to come down heavy would
>never help in such a situation,  especially if she takes after her mother.
>
>HOWEVER it is of paramount importance that condom use is encouraged early
>on,and sex WILL ALWAYS occur amongst some schoolkids.  Therefore condoms
>being distributed at schools is a good thing.
>
>			Tim

I wish I had your eloquence.  I also have a baby girl and although we
intend to discourage sex I do think that sex education is very
improtant.  Well said Tim.

Marissa




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>Strawberry Fields and Stairway To Heaven,  | Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB.
>at no. 1 was I Owe You Nothing by Bros.    | LUFC, Yorkshire's No. 1.
From: lewis@linac.fnal.gov (June Cummins Lewis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Safety expert suggestion
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:11:43 GMT
Organization: Fermiland, Batavia, IL

In article <5149@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.boeing.com> celia@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Celia H Modell) writes:
>On Prime Time Live last night, they had a story on someone who gives
>street survival classes. He had one suggestion that I thought was
>appropriate to misc.kids.
>
>He suggested telling your children that if they were walking home
>from school and someone started to follow them they should start
>running but first DROP their bookbag. He commented that heavy
>bookbags could slow them down. This seemed like good advice.
>
>celia modell

Except that then the follower could pick up the book bag and find out
at least the child's name, if not his/her phone number and address.

I wouldn't tell my kids to drop their bags.

A little paranoid,

June

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From: m.yew@trl.oz.au
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Maxalon tablets to help breastfeeding
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:15:23 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories

I hope I can be of some help to those who desperately want to breastfeed but
has insufficient milk supply.  At the same time, I am requesting feedbacks on
the safety on usage of this drug Maxalon.

I am a mother of two, one five and the other 1 1/2.  With the first child, the
urge to breastfeed was not strong when the baby refused breastfeeding, so I
quit when the first child was one month old and happily went back to work. 
With the birth of the second child who I desperately tried to conceive for 4
years, the urge to breastfeed was immense especially after finding out that
breastfed  babies are less likely to be suffering from SIDs.  Being a basically
dry mum and  a premature baby to start with has prolonged jaundice, the
situation didn't help.  I was dry even after the 5th day of birth.  Only a few
drops of colostrum was all I got.  I tried all means recommended by the
lactation consultant: supply-line, periodic expression and pumping to help
promote milk supply with the help of the lactation consultant all to no result.
 Even lots of nuts and fish didn't help.  I was advised by one of the mid-wives
to give up as she said some mum's just don't have it.  I refused to accept her
judgement and hate the idea of giving up 5 months of work just to bottlefeed my
baby.  In desperation and persistance, the doctor prescribed me Maxalon tablets
at 3 a day.  Believe it or not, the milk came!  I had even enough to express to
be frozen for the bad days.  As my milk supply is extremely sensitive, a tablet
of Floxapan (anti-biotic to subdue the gorging) will deflate
the milk supply completely for a day or two,  I have to take regularly for the
period which I chose to breastfeed ie. 5 months.  Result: a healthy baby and a
fast learner too at 1 1/2.

However, I read in the reseach paper by the manufacturer that Maxalon tablets
are basically recommended to control nausea and vomitting.  It has also been
found to help with breastfeeding because it stimulates the hormones to produce
milk.  Eventhough it is not particularly recommended for lactating mothers, no
side-effects has been detected in the studies.  I have no quelms in using it
again for my third baby due in November 1992.  However, if anyone in the net
has read about any side-effects of the drug (especially in the intelectual
growth or physical or health) please do let me know.  To my best knowledge, the
results have been collected from the Drugs information department in Monash
Medical Centre in Melbourne, Australia.  The drug is made in U.S. and has been
around for the past 40-50 years.  My second son is already talking fluently at
1 1/2 in a few languages.
From: peterson@nicmad.uucp (Dennis Peterson x2495)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Enlarged uterus for date
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:42:05 GMT
Organization: Nicolet Instrument Corp.

In article <1816@transfer.stratus.com> penny@twins.cac.stratus.com (Penny Connoly) writes:
>
>I am currently 26 +/- weeks along , according to the Doctors dates . In the
>past 4 weeks I have really blossomed and thought that my uterus had gotten
>rather high . Today I had an appointment with my Dr who confirmed this . She 
>wants me to come back in 2 weeks so she can check the size again and do another  
>Ultrasound as well as check for gestational diabetis (sp) . She said I could  
>have a really large baby or possibly excessive amniotic fluid . She didn't even  
>
>Has anyone out there had a similar experience ?? , I hate to get all worked up  
>over nothing . 
>
>Thanks for listening !
>Penny

I also was larger than dates with my first pregnancy, somewhere in my 6 or 7th
month I beleive. (Its been 9 years)  The doctor did a ultrasound which showed
nothing, no extra baby or fluid.  My daughter weighed 8'7'' at birth and every
thing was fine.  So in my case it had no significance.


Patricia




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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Mysterious Headaches-THANKS!
Date: 14 Apr 1992 16:47:59 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: leander.think.com

In article <34225@unix.SRI.COM> (anothermother) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.034112.25808@access.digex.com>, andy@access.digex.com (Andrew M Cohn) writes:
>> ME:   Hey, how's your elbow...does it still hurt?
>> DAN:  Yeah...still hurts.

>> Aside, to audience: Now, there is not a darn thing wrong with his
>> elbow. I picked that body part at random as a little test.

>Gosh, your kid sounds just like mine.  I've even played little games like
>"When your elbow is better, we'll go to Toys R Us"....to be followed by
>"My elbow's much better!"

You can't trust those results, either. 

Two years ago, my son (then three years old) fell while playing at a
friend's house. My wife was convinced that his arm was broken. She got
him calmed down enough to get him in the car and started off for the
pediatrician's office. Half-way there, he announced that he felt
better, and asked to go home instead. They went on to the doctor's
office, where an x-ray showed he'd fractured the end of his right
radius. 

Figuring out when your child is *really* hurt can be very tricky.  Use
your judgement, use your knowledge of his/her normal behavior, and
don't trust the child's own testimony too far.

-- 
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Terri Buchman <buchman@osf.org>
Subject: Re: holding a kid back in school
Organization: Open Software Foundation
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:10:05 GMT

I held my duaghter back from starting kindergarten for a year.  I have
never regretted it.  She was one of those kids who was academically
bright, but shy and withdrawn.  She needed the year in order to learn how
to:
	act with other children;
	speak up and share her ideas (as opposed to being a classroom mouse 	and
keeping all her ideas and creativity to herself);
	learn how to act and interact with a teacher.  

As far as I can tell, this has worked wonderfully.  She is enjoying her
time in school immensely.  She oftens finds kernels of ideas at school
and develops them more fully on her own time.  Her K class had a ?100
days of school? celebration in Feb. and all the kids designed a poster
incorporating 100 items into it.  Michelle glued 100 pieces of macaroni
on her poster, colored it, stuck pictures on it, etc.  The day she took
it home from school she asked me if she could go to the Museum of Fine
Arts.  I asked her why and she said that she wanted to donate her poster
to them.  This is not the same shy kid who could barely get on a bus 2
years ago.  She?s participating in school now, bringing her ideas up in
class and learning how to get along with the other kids at recess and
free play.  I really think that the delay gave her the freedom to do this.

I am keeping my son back from K this fall.  He is not ready for
kindergarten and would be a distraction to the other children.  He is
staying in a pre-school special needs class that will help him to get
ready.  Special needs kids, in my town, are followed on a team basis, the
team consisting of the parents, the teachers and therapists and the
program administrators.  We all believe that a delay will benefit my son.
 Although the reasons and needs differ greatly from the reasons that I
delayed my daughters entry into Kindergarten I am hoping that the same
magic effect occurs.

Much luck

Terri

	

T
From: ctopp@cup.portal.com (Carol F Topp)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Placenta Lore - what to do with them
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 19:20:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

If there is anyone in the Bay Area planning a home birth and wondering
what to do with their placenta and willing to donate it, please E-mail
me. 

I work for a small biotechnology company that is studying a family of
enzymes that is responsible for a lot of resistance to cancer chemotherapy.
Placenta is the best source of one of the members of the families. We
can buy the enzyme from a supplier, but the quality of the preparation isn't
what we would like. In general hospitals do sell placentas. many products
purified from them are for sale to the research community.

Since the topic of placentas came up I decided to put this out. I have found
chanels for many human organs, but not placentas yet. 

Carol
From: juliet@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (juliet.b.sutherland)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: request sources for "Puff"
Keywords: recording, Puff
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:25:45 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

My 2.5 yr old has become very fond of the song "Puff, the Magic Dragon"
and wants to hear it all the time.  I'm going to make him his very own
tape where the song repeats over and over.  To save the sanity of the
rest of the family, I'd like to include as many versions of the song as
I can find.  I have 3 versions from Peter, Paul and Mary.  I'm
looking for recommendations for recordings by other people.  Since I'll
have to buy or borrow these, please don't suggest anything obscure.
Your help is appreciated, email is preferred.  I'll post a summary if
enough people want one.  Thanks
		Juliet Sutherland
		juliet!mhuxo.att.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Kayvan Sylvan)
Subject: You know you're a parent of an infant
Organization: Sylvan Associates
Distribution: misc
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:06:54

When you find yourself saying "Wow! That was a *great* burp!" to your
adult friend without thinking...

			---Kayvan
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From: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: bald babies! was 2 A.M. thoughts while nursing
Date: 9 Apr 1992 03:16:04 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: leander.think.com

In article <2APR199208395812@quark2.aero.org> xwiltberger@arecibo.aero.org writes:
>In response to Judy, yes my second daughter never lost her hair!  

My second son never lost his hair, either. It's only grown thicker and
longer since the moment he was born -- almost nine and a half days
ago! 

:-)

Sorry. I should be asleep, and so should the little guy.

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 Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142
        One of the flaws in the anarchic bopper society was
        the ease with which such crazed rumors could spread.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: La Leche League
From: kerry@cavebbs.gen.nz (Kerry Dalley)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 08:16:01 GMT
Organization: The Cave MegaBBS, Public Access Usenet, Wellington, NZ

In article <1992Apr7.184928.11582@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
>From article <1992Apr7.040121.22303@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, by mrz50957@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SEQUENT V2.0):

>> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
>> 
>>>Even
>>>as a child I did not have a sweet tooth and my Halloween and Easter candy
>>>would be left to rot every year.  
>> 
>> Standing policy in my house with my family is that exactly one week after
>> Halloween and Easter, all candy is tossed out!
>
>
>A policy like that would have 'saved' a friend of mine when we were about 10.
>I gave her a piece of candy one summer, and just by chance she said, "That's
>good!  Where'd you get it?"   The answer: "Your house last Halloween!"
>Honestly, I didn't _mean_ to ruin it on her.
>
>Suzanne.

i


Not meaning to pry, but *what* has this got to do with La Leche League?

Yours confusedly....Kerry 8-)
From: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Preparing for Breastfeeding
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:34:00 GMT
Reply-To: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CDNSWC

I have a few questions on preparing myself for breastfeeding.  I have
seven weeks left until this baby is due (plus or minus two weeks, of
course!)  When my first child was born, I remember reading somewhere
that it was a good idea to "toughen up" your nipples some in advance.
One recommended method was to use a washcloth and rub them lightly in
the shower, for about a minute a day.  I did that, and boy was it painful.
However, while I did get EXTREMELY sore nipples for a few days to a
week after Brad was born, that was all (no infections, no further pain
or problems after that initial period of adjustment).  I remember reading 
later (and again I can't find it anywhere) that it was a BAD idea to 
try to toughen up your nipples.  Does anyone know what, if any, preparations
should be made?

Secondly, what about care once breastfeeding starts?  I know you shouldn't
use any soap or soap products.  I remember reading that expressing a
few drops of milk and rubbing it in to the nipple is a good natural
lubricant/moisturizer.  I also remember reading somewhere that olive
oil was good for this purpose.  I think I used the expressed milk before,
if I got tender, but never really knew if it was helping or not.

Third, any helpful hints I may have forgotten or never knew?  Brad and
I didn't have too much trouble getting breastfeeding going.  I have
a friend who recently had her second baby and was unable to breastfeed
him, though she had successfully breastfed her daughter.  I want all
those helpful hints at my fingertips, just in case!

Lastly, I second Lynn Cooper's opinion that breastfeeding is a two handed
operation!  I could never get anything else done at the same time.

Diane Segelhorst
dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Mom to Brad, 20.5 months, and ???, -7 weeks
From: UD044485@NDSUVM1.BITNET (John A. Williams)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: re:auto accident
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:42:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: NDSUVM1.92098.134259UD044485
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

I will add my voice to the PLEASE put your child in a proper and approved child
restraint (seat or seatbelt), and while you are at PLEASE put your own seatbelt
on.

John A. Williams
From: mikey@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Fields)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Need gate advice
Summary: what worked well for us ...
Keywords: gate
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:33:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.

In article <1992Apr8.204436.18525@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, lauraf@notavax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom) writes:
> In article <1992Apr7.144428.29825@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala) writes:
> >
> >  Please send me some advice.  I am interested in hardware mounted
> >  (without those rubber pressure sensitive knobs).  The doors at
> >  my mother-in-law and in my apartment are not parallel, thus
> 
> For a good mail order source try Safer Baby Company. They have an 800 number,
> so you can get the number from 800 information (1-800-555-1212). I had a gate
> that I bought locally, but is also available thru them. It is wood and has
> vertical slats. On each side of the door frame you connect two eyebolts. Then
> there are three hooks (2 on one side, one on the other) that hook into the
> eyebolts. Then instead of a hook for the forth eyebolt there is a little clamp
> thingy that keeps the whol thing from being taken off too easily. 
 ^^^^^^^^
> 
> I am not good at describing this sort of thing. 
> 
> Laura Floom

Thingy????  Let me guess - you don't write tech. documentation for a living :-)

Anybody with any experience at all knows it is a 'whatchamacallit'!!!

On to the reason for the post.  What we have is called the "Walk-thru Ultra
Gate" by Nuline industries in Wisconson.  It locks/releases with a latch at
the top of the gate which is easy to work with one hand from either direction.
It has two plastic "index pins" that screw on to the wall that hold it in 
place when it is closed and a hinge on the other side.  The gate can be 
removed from the hinge by lifting it up when it is all the way open (when
closed, you can not lift it.)  It is easy to remove for cleaning (plastic) -
just take it outside and scrub/hose it off!.  Each section of the gate is about
1-1/4 inches thick (they slide together).  Because of the way I installed it,
I had to mount the hinge assy on a piece of 1 by 2 oak so the gate would lay
flat against the wall when it was open.  The only change I made to the gate
was to add a magnetic latch assembly (magnet on the gate, plate on the wall)
so that the gate would stay flat against the wall when it was open.  It has
really worked well for us except for the time we left it open by accident and
Eric (13 mo at the time) fell down the stairs.  Fortunately, he was not hurt,
but it scared the HELL out of us - we had the aid car come and check him out!!!
We bought our gate at Toys R Us about 2 years ago.

mikey

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From: jshekara@wisconsin.prime.com (Jennifer Shekaran)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Should we Stop at Two or Go for Three?
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:47:49 GMT
Reply-To: jshekara@wisconsin.UUCP (Jennifer Shekaran)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1992Apr6.095838.1023@tac.fi> tios_ll@tac.fi writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.004739.3747@eskimo.celestial.com>, jones@eskimo.celestial.com (Laurie Grey) writes:
>>With only 2, they either play together or play independently.  With all
>>3, one gets left out or gets picked on or ignored.  
>  ........
>>Anybody with 4 out there?  What's it like?
>
>When I had only one, without her the house always seemed so quiet.
>When I had two, with only 1 the house always seemed so quiet.
>When I had three, with only 2 the house always seemed so quiet.
>Now I have four, and with only 3, the house always seems so quiet.
>
>My mother had five, and she says that with only 4, the house always 
>seemed so quiet...  
>
>Maybe you stop noticing the difference after 10 or so, but who knows?
>
>Liisa 						(Tampere, Finland)


Well, one point of reference, my mother had 12 kids and her experience
found that you don't stop noticing the difference.  When there were only
11 around, you probably wouldn't exactly call the house quiet :v), but it
definitely seemed much quieter!!!  

I might add that if one child is, for some reason, unable to participate in
some family affair, you miss the one not there when he/she is one of 12 kids
just as much as when he/she is one out of 3 or 2 or whatever your favorite 
number is. The point is you miss each one for themselves regardless of how 
many you had (and having them ALL there makes it complete...anything less is
not the complete family).  Over the years, my mother has had many people make
some thoughtless remarks to her that showed a total lack of recognition of 
this fact.

Jennifer Shekaran
jshekara@cvbnet.Prime.Com
Newsgroups: misc.kids