From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: WHERE DO THE "Palestinians" COME FROM?
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:44:52 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

In article Rita Homsieh writes:

[RITA] Dear Jim and Gideon,
[RITA] I cannot believe I am reading this on such a cultural program.  I think 

Uh oh, another intellectual Arab woman on the net. After Anisa, we have Rita.
Any relationship to the famous Israeli singer :-)?

[RITA] that such a comment is very racist, and very very far from being a human
[RITA] being.  You have to recognize that not all Arabs like the Israeli 
[RITA] government and the Israeli army because of the violence that is been 

I didn't know that any Arabs liked Israel. This is new to me, please explain.

[RITA] used.  And the real enemy is not PLO or Hamas.  It is yourselves.  
[RITA] I have never seen in my life people like you.

This reminds me of a French saying, I will try to translate it:
"The enemy is stupid, he thinks we are the enemy, when it is him."
The real enemy is the circle of violence. Whether it is Arab (PLO, HAMAS, 
FDLP, PFLP, HEZBOLLAH, SADDAM, etc...) or Jewish.

As for never seeing people like us, are you talking about Jews? Israelis?
I suggest you get out more often, or uncover your eyes from under your 
tchador :-). Just go the Lebanon, violence their was/is common place.

[RITA] I advise you to clean yourselves from the blind hatred and wake up to 
[RITA] live in a world society, and take the responsibility to make it better. 

I suggest you do the same. Apparently you've been asleep all your life, just
woke up and have not had time to wash your eyes! To paraphrase Shamir:
"Arabs suck Jewish hatred from their mothers' breasts". He said something 
similar about the poles and antisemitism.

[RITA] The Arab-Israeli conflict is as old as the creation of nation-state
[RITA] system in Europe.  And with people like you, I am sure we will never 
[RITA] have peace. The Arabs now are paying for a fault commited by the 
[RITA] European states centuries ago.  I advise you to read your history books

BUZZZZZ, wrong again, the Arabs are paying for a fault they committed in 1947-
1948 when they rejected the 2 state plan in Palestine. They went to war, they
lost, they have to suffer the consequences of their pride and stupidity. The
Palestinian problem is not entirely Israel's fault. The Arabs have much to
blame for it. The Palestinians have become the scapegoats of the Arab world.
They are just pawns. Saddam (ima'h shemo) proved it. Or was that too long ago
already?

I advise you read history books, not the ones your teachers give you
to read in Arab schools but the ones written in the west (not necessarily by
Jews :-)).
My guess is that the stories will be quite different. The Arab history books
are probably closer to Sinbad the Sailor and the the Counts of 1001 nights.
Somewhat like Japanese history books which omit atrocities and occupation
of Manchouria, Pearl Harbor or the French History books which hardly talk
about Petain in 1940-45. Petain the great WWI hero !!! Governments teach
their subjects what is convenient. The same applies to Israel and its Arab foes.

[RITA] with an open mind (which will be very hard for people like you) and try 
[RITA] to learn that Arab and Jews were both given the same promises by the 
[RITA] West.  However, the Jews financial power in the West got the upper hand.
This sounds a bit anti-semitic or is just Arab propaganda, you are telling me 
the Arabs are not filthy rich? Saudi Arabia could buy Israel 100 times 
over :-). Didn't S.A. just buy UPI to control the media :-), just like the 
Jews do?

[RITA] Congratulation, you want Palestine, take it; because
Don't say it twice, babe. We have it, we keep it (that is everything within
the green line, the rest is open for discussions).

[RITA] we are used to the Jewish story "We are the victims" and let's see what
[RITA] are you going to do ;-)
The victims now are the Palestinian children who are not being educated due
to the Intifada, who learn only violence and crime. I wouldn't want to live
in a country governed by such people.

[RITA] Shalom
[RITA] Rita

Salaam

Tsiel

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