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From: mcclure@grok22.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Steve McClure)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut (SPOILERS)
Reply-To: Steve.McClure@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:53:17 GMT

In article <y3hqbbcn@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep14.182519.4982@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu) writes:
|> >In article <zggqbgzn@cck.coventry.ac.uk> gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre) writes:
|> >>If by the extra violence you mean the scene where Pris sticks her fingers up
|> >>Deckard's nose and tries to wrench it off (Ford's idea at the time), then I'm
|> >>sorry, but we don't get that scene here in Britain, either.
|> >>
|> >>From what I can gather, the British version is the same as the American version.
|> >
|> >I feel kinda sorry for you Brits then.  I think the Aussies have the original
|> >American version too.
|> >
|> >Anyhow, yes the fingers in Deckard's nose is one shot that was deleted.  The
|> >other two were shots of Roy's thumbs plunging into Tyrell's eye sockets and
|> >blood flowing out, and a shot of the nail puncturing through the top of Roy's
|> >hand.  All three shots totalled less than seventeen (or fifteen?) seconds so
|> >one didn't miss that much.  However for the purist, I guess it's a little
|> >different.
|> 
|> Jesus, you mean the Americans never got those scenes. I take it all back, we
|> DO get the International/European version. I can't see how the film could
|> exist without just those simple cuts.
|> 
|> -- 
|>         	 **Ridley McIntyre - Ronin Ironpig**			
|> 		     gdg019@cck.coventry.ac.uk
|> 		 -----------------------------------
|>      		    "He's in a world of his own."

I didn't keep up very well with this thread, but I have the Criterion
CLV letterbox version of BR and it has those scenes in it.

-- 
Thanks,

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,dc.general
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Director's cut of Bladerunner: When?
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 20:23:54 GMT

I saw Rutger Hauer on the Tonight Show last week plugging BR - DC,
and last night Joanna Cassidy was on plugging it as well. It opens
Sept. 11, and given all the effort they are going to publicize it,
I'm sure it opens nationwide. Check your paper for ads, listen to
your radio station for free tickets ...
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 92 02:26:06 +0200
From: Erik_Schmidt@wharfrat.fido.de (Erik Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft movie
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
X-Comment-To: espensk@stud.cs.uit.no (Espen Skoglund)
Organization: the great node of indifference 




ES> I recently snapped up some rumours about a movie based on H.P.Lovecrafts
ES> "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward", but I have no idea of what the name of
ES> it is.

"The Ressurected" by Dan O. Bannon.


Gruss, ERIK


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie Posts
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:15:16 GMT

In article <16210046@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen) w
rites:
>
>    Of course their where some real losers who have no life that would
>    go and bitch to the managers about us having fun, and tried to get
>    us thrown out.  Amazing twits, thinking they would even like such
>    crap is still mind boggling to me.  When ever we thought we would
>    be thrown out, the whole group of us would move to a new locatation,
>    and the wrong people would get thrown out instead.  HAHAHA  great fun.
>
>Morty

You and your friends are the main reason why I avoid going to theaters
these days--people who can't tell the difference between a VCR in a
living room and a public theater.r
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Akira
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:02:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.165559.10232@news.iastate.edu> tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>Are ther any good Japaneese anamation like Akira on video? I bought 
>Clash of the BioNoids (with characters from the robotech I think) but
>it was god awful. Also bought a Speed Racer. pretty sad, made me laugh
>tho. I want good flicks, preferably in English, but I suppose Ill also
>check out some sub-title ones...
>Also of any addresses?
>I know Heavy Metal mag has some ads for em, but looking for any others

Check the newsgroup "rec.arts.anime". It's a high-traffic group
devoted solely to this topic. They can tell you all about Japanese
animated films, TV shows, and video releases.

                                            -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie Posts
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:52:59 GMT

In <16210046@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen) writes:

>In alt.cult-movies, iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:

>> 
>> Do you suppose that this most embarassing movie tangent is just an
>> elaborate cascade?  
>	
>	I like this question, it brings back such great memories of 
>	truely rotten stinkhole of movies I and my demented friends
>	used to go to on dollar night.  
>	No matter how bad the movie, we still had a great time.  How
>	did we do it you ask, well easy, we would make verbal fun of
>	the flick as it played, and when you have 15 or more people 
>	doing it, then it makes a shitty movie very funny.
>	One of the best I remember was CHUD!  Cannaballistic Humaniod
>	Underground Dwellers.  God, just thinking of the fun we had at
>	that shithole movies expense is making me laugh now.  We would take
>	this and other shitty movies, and make the night out a big success
>	instead of a loss.  Everyone in the movie house would be laughing
>	their asses off and having a good time.
>	Of course their where some real losers who have no life that would
>	go and bitch to the managers about us having fun, and tried to get
>	us thrown out.  Amazing twits, thinking they would even like such 
>	crap is still mind boggling to me.  When ever we thought we would 
>	be thrown out, the whole group of us would move to a new locatation,
>	and the wrong people would get thrown out instead.  HAHAHA  great fun.

>	Thanks for the question, it brings back some very good times.

>Morty 

Yes, I see your point.  It has certainly been a strategy which has
carried me through some real crud.  I remember seeing a dreadful
Canadian film called The Dark Side which, I am sure, was only screened
so as to meet with Canadian cultural content quotas.  You know you're
in trouble when the producer also stars as the hero and writes the
script.  Anyway the point of the movie was re-invented by the audiance
into a game of one-upmanship (excuse the androcentricity but I can't
think of an equally appropriate term) as everyone competed to come up
with the most outrageous comment.

Ian
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Nosferatu - The Vampyre?
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:17:34 GMT

	Anyone know how to get a copy of the remake of Nosferatu -
Nosferatu - The Vampyre?  I don't think it has been released on video or
laserdisc yet, but it's worth a shot.  Anyone seen it?  How does it compare
to the first and the novel?

			-Casey Hopkins
			hopkins@agora.rain.com

	BTW, it has Klaus Kinski in it.
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Random stuff
Summary: a correction
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:56:53 GMT
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I wrote:
>3. I called Video Vault (Washington, DC) to ask about uncut Argento.
>The woman was very friendly and said that it is hard to come by (which
>has become all to obvious).  They used to have PHENOMENA [released in
>the US as CREEPERS, cut by 40 minutes] but their print was damaged and
>they haven't been able to replace it (if I remember correctly).  They
>only have SUSPIRIA (no big deal) and OPERA -- I asked her to check the
>running time and she said it was 107m.  I believe the standard US
>release is 100m so perhaps this really is uncut.  Yeehaw.

Oops...  Just checked and the back cover of "Terror at the Opera"
(the US release of "Opera") claims 107m.  The 100m figure was from
_Broken Mirrors/Broken Minds_ and I assumed it reflected the US
release.  Sorry.

(I've been calling CT information every week or two asking for
Eccentri-cinema in Southbury, but they are still not listed.)

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: emf@sioux.eel.ufl.edu (Ed Filangeri)
Subject: Re: William S. Burroughs
Organization: UF Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 20:34:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.025849.21368@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
|> Is WSB still alive? Was that him in 'Drugstore Cowboy'. If so, it
|> was pretty inspired.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> *********************************************
|> *    bob church                             *
|> *    bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
|> *    D-8195 NFS #27                         *

Yes. The junkie ex-priest was WSB.  It wasn't much more than a cameo, but nevertheless, a 
great role anyway.  I would really love to hang out with him for a while.



           Ed Filangeri
           University of Florida
           Dept. of EE               
           Reliability Physics Group              
           filangeri@ds3a.ee.ufl.edu   

            "Wave after wave, they flow with the tide,  bury the world as it does.
             Tide after it will flow and recede, leaving life to go on as it was."

                                                                        N. Peart
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: andrewwb@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Re: Rocky Horror...Where?
Keywords: Rocky Horror Picture Show
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:19:45 GMT


	Does anyone know of anywhere where the Rocky Horror Picture Show  
is being played in the state of Indiana?  About two months ago,  Speedway  
general cinema played its supposed last showing of it, though rumor has it  
that Lafayette Square Mall is going to reopen its midnite movies.  Terre  
Haute no longer plays it,  and I hear it is played very rarely in  
Bloomington.  Another rumor has it that it is played in a small town in  
Northern Indiana off of the interstate called Maryville.  Can anyone  
support or discount these rumors?  I have a whole slew of willing virgins  
who are just waiting, armed with their rice, squirt guns, lighters,etc...
	As for upcoming cult films, what about the plotless Wayne's World?   
The pauses just seem built in for screaming at the screen, and the wording  
is so vague that there is plenty of room for misinterpretation.

And the void is calling...
		Bryan "Doctor X" Andrews
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Jean Shepherd movie search
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 05:24:51 GMT

In article <4SEP199207325014@ducvax.auburn.edu> slowther@ducvax.auburn.edu (Sam Lowther) writes:
>Anyone who thought the movies based on Shepherd's work were funny should read
>the short stories.

I found "A Christmas Story" to be quite on a par with his short stories I've
read (and I'm pretty much a "the book is always much better than the movie"
guy) -- it was a wonderful production all around.  (I haven't seen any of
the other movies of his works, I admit.)

-mm-
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From: michael@adriaan.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Hudson Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:37:11 GMT
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: fnord@panix.com's message of 10 Sep 92 14:56:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.145646.9220@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:

 
  =Hey, this movie turned out to be pretty excellent.

  =I think what happened was that the previews led people to expect another
  =Die Hard.  This was a bit too goofy, and the characterizations were WAY
  =OUT.  So it bombed.

  =However, isn't that so often what makes a cult film?  Not like Slacker
  =which was designed and marketed as a cult film.

  =Anyway, The movie is fast paced, with lots of comic book style gratuitous
  =violence, great interplay between Bruce Willis and Danny DeVito, and an A+
                                                            ^^^^^^ 
  =performance by Sandra Bernhard (better even than in The King of Comedy).

  =Get the video if you dont believe me.


With only a small nit to pick, I must say that I agree.
It's Danny Aiello, who was also in January Man and Do the Right Thing.

"Your turn!"
"My turn?!?"
[...]
"Buffy! Ball-Ball!"

my $.02,
Chaplin.
--
===========================================================================
Michael Chaplin                    Language is a virus from outer space.
michael@albert.bu.edu                     - William S. Burroughs

The Einstein Papers Project        The opinions contained herein reflect
Boston University                      neither those of the project, 
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.          nor those of Albert Einstein.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Lawnmower Man
From: conrad@actrix.gen.nz (Conrad Bullock)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:10:42 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Sep13.134050.19485@yang.earlham.edu> uril@yang.earlham.edu (Uri J. Lessing) writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.142801.13011@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@sponge.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> > 
> > And yes, despite showing up on some early posters for the video release,
> > Stephen King's name does not appear anywhere in the film that I noticed.
> > Too bad, because this is stil more enjoyable than most of the films that
> > were legitimately based on his work. 
> > <All IMHO, of course>

> Actually, it still says in the credits "Based on a short story by Stephen King."
> However the movie is no longer called "Stephen King's Lawnmower Man."  
> Just "The Lawnmower Man."

In New Zealand (and probably other countries), The Lawnmower man is still
running in movie theatres. All of the ads (I have one in front of me now),
all of the posters, and the film classification certificate call it:
"Stephen King's Lawnmower Man". I saw it a few weeks ago, and the titles
do in fact call it "Stephen King's The Lawnmower Man".

This was despite us hearing that SK had won some court injunction
against the use of his name. was that only for the video version? Or
only in the US?
From: carlj@muppet.bt.co.uk (Carl Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:55:05 GMT
Reply-To: carlj@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

In article 00Uh7E5qKIc@andrew.cmu.edu, cg2u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher W. Graefe) writes:
=I saw Naked Lunch this summer and was pretty confused by it. So I
=decided to get the book out of the library. WHOA! If you thought the
=movie was wierd, try reading a stream of consciousness novel filled with
=some of the most homoerotic graphic literature ever printed.  I was not
=able to get into the book just because...well, it didn't have anything
=you could really call a plot.  

Try it again, but try reading each chapter as a seperate short story,
except that the same charcters ocassionally pop up.  Its worth it.

=Most of Burroughs books are like this.

How much have you read?  His earlier stuff "Queer", "Junkie" is more
"normal" ;}

=Must be a 60's thing.  Anyway, the book had very interesting
=interpretations and other information as a preface.  I would also be
=interested in an interpretation of the book or the movie if anyone knows
=of one...or two...or several.
=

The best thing I've found so far is his biography by Ted Morgan "Confessions
Of A Literary Outlaw" its superb and will give you a lot of background information.

Cheers,
C
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Title of 70's TV series
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:53:37 GMT

In article <gunnarh.110.716478822@dhhalden.no> gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>I remember a series that was aired on scandivian TV when I was a little boy.
>I remember allmost nothing of it, besides the fact that I thought it was 
>extremely cool. Anyway here's a little summary of what I can recall from it.
>
>It was this SF thing, about some space-guy roaming around with a little 
>robotic friend. I have an idea he had his little robot in his back pocket, 
>allthough I'm not at all sure of this. He was assigned to a spacecraft build 
>inside/outside/around/whatever a small planet ( No not Moonbase Alpha, one 
>of my favorites in SF). Uhh.....No wait there's more.I remember a lot of 
>hairy guys chasing our friend, the hero, around. And I have quite a clear 
>image of the bad guy. He was all dressed in black (of course), looked a 
>quite like Darth Vader I believe. He , the bad guy, allso had this thing in 
>covering one of his eyes, making him able to Zap people just by looking at 
>them.
>
>If any of this seem familiar, please post and tell me what the series was 
>called, as it represents, probably, my first interrest of science fiction.
>
>If there's any help in it I can allso tell you it was aired in oh...-77/-78 
>or so. In scandiavia, that is.
>
>
>          /\           | I didn't say this.      | "I never forget a
>        /    \         | My supervisor would     | face. Especially
>      /        \       | kill me if i did.       | when I've sat
>    /    (<>)    \     |_________________________| on it."
>  /                \   |Gunnar Horrigmo          | -Kathleen Turner
>/____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no| Crimes of passion

Part of this seems to suggest, to my mind anyway, the trashy epic "The
Starlost". But part of it doesn't.

					--Judex--
From: batemanc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mad Chris)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Lovecraft movie
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:27:14 GMT

espensk@stud.cs.uit.no (Espen Skoglund) inquires:

>I recently snapped up some rumours about a movie based
>on H.P.Lovecrafts "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward",
>but I have no idea of what the name of it is.
>If someone out there has some information, please let me
>know.
>I would also be glad to hear about other movies inspiered/
>based on his works.

To the best of my knowledge there are at least four:

'Reanimator'
'Reanimator II'
'From Beyond'
'The Unnamable' (truly dreadful)

I also know of a version of 'The Shuttered Room' and (I think) 'The
Dunwich Horror' but I forget what those films are called. I'm willing
to bet someone can set me straight.

Mad Chris.
Xref: sparky alt.cult-movies:7940 rec.arts.comics:23119 rec.arts.sf.movies:7099
From: TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Aliens v Predator Movie??? (+ Alien 3)
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:36:39 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I heard from the local comic book store owner that an A v P movie was being
made.  Is this true?  He said it should be out by next year.  I have no idea
where he got this information, but I hope it's true.  I was disappointed in
Alien 3 so I need another Alien movie to satisfy me.

I picked up the Aliens:Earth War series, and I think that it should have been
the basis for Alien 3.
Don't bother with the comic version of Alien 3, it sucks.
The writing in #2 is _terrible_.  I saw the movie and it was hard to follow.
The art is good, however.

Anyhow, if anyone knows true or false on the A v P movie, please let me know.


Sime Sime everywhere a Sime

Sime keeps on slippin slippin slippin, into the future...

etc.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Movies you heard were good but sucked
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:42:06 GMT

Pretty Woman
sex, lies, and videotape
Barton Fink (with the exception of the corridor-bursting-into-fire scene)

Oh, and another movie that I was embarrassed to see: Superman IV.

-- 
Keith_Lim@sfu.ca   Simon Fraser University, Burnaby B.C., V5A 1S6, Canada
>Opinions above are probably my own only...too weird to be anyone else's.<

"I can't be sure where I'm headed after death/To heaven, hell, or beyond to
 that Great Vast/But if I can I would like to meet my Maker/There's one or
 two things I'd sure like to ask"      --Crash Test Dummies, "At My Funeral"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: harlock@netcom.com (Mike Harlock)
Subject: Re: WIZARD's "Up-Hill Biking" - the TRUTH
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 01:13:05 GMT
Organization: The Space Vessel Arcadia

In article <UehHAhi00VpaIDJV9z@andrew.cmu.edu> Christopher Brian Cox <cc4b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>In reference to single stepping:
>
>Does WoSaT exist in 3/4" Umatic or Beta SP formats?
>Or something with enough video quality that we can single step without
>hurting our eyes?
>(The next question being - how can I get ahold of such a copy?)

I just used a laserdisc copy and single framed with my S-VHS deck.  (It isn't
even an S-VHS tape!)  Works for me.

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: KISS..Phantom of the Park, Just For the Hell Of It
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:45:06 GMT

for you Laserdisc owners out there - _Kiss meets the Phantom of the Park_
is scheduled for LD release soon....

Don't ask me why.... :> 

-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)     "Non Dignis Sum!" - Waynus and Gartus
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Rocky Horror (was Re: Embarrassing films...)
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:14:07 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

cgc2646@usl.edu (Cech Claude G) writes (of the Rocky Horror Picture Show):

>When it first came out, it was apparently an embarrassing file for a lot of
>folks.  I saw it several times that first year both off and on campus (at the
>U. of Illinois).  On those first showings, quite a few people walked out.
>Different story now, huh?  Take away the audience participation bit, though,
>and the question is, Is there a MOVIE there worth seeing?  

I saw it twice when it first came out (no audience participation). 
I really liked it, but my boyfriend fell asleep both times (and I 
think it wasn't even a midnight showing).

>I think the answer's
>YES:  A decidedly witty and funny film IF ... IF, like me, you spent a lot of
>your childhood taking in Grade-B 1950s horror and sf films.  

Or if you found its portrayal of sexuality congenial to your inclinations.

--
Stef                 "What would *you* call the creation of the universe?"
stef@apple.com       "The Horrendous Space Klablooie!"             
                                                              - Watterson
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies