HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shadow@r-node.gts.org (Jay Chu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Naming conventions
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:18:33 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Organization: Microsoft Canada, Inc.

In article <1992Sep30.181429.2890@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:
>>>Like most Windows program, they have WINTREK.ZIP, etc.  We should all
>>>name our Geos programs as GEOxxxxx.ZIP, where xxxxx identifies the program.
>>
>>Hmmm... are you only suggesting that the ZIPfiles be named Geo*.Zip, or are
>>you suggesting that applications be given [Geos] filenames beginning with
>>"Geo" also?  [e.g. GeoComm].

Just the archives as I mentioned, so they are easier to find.

>People naming their programs GeoXXX would be a Bad Thing (as in trademark
>infringement bad).

Oh really?  What about 'comp.os.msdos.pcgeos'?  Guess we are breaking the law.

>As for the stuff being uploaded to the archive sites, I thought that they
>are all under some GEOS directory (rather than spread out all over the
>place)?

Don't be naive, remember that files can be spread all over the world.  What
if on a BBS, I found (for example, a fictional program) "MAHJONG.ZIP".  The
uploader (whoever that is) forgot to mention it is for GeoWorks.  No where
in hell would I bother to download all the files to see which one (out of
a thousand, say) is for Geos.  BUT, au contraire, I see the name "GEOMAJNG.ZIP"
I can tell that it's for Geos immediately.  Get it?

>Thanks,
>	John
>	johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU
>
>P.S.	I'm certainly not a lawyer so take any legal sounding advice with a
>	big grain of salt.  Yes, I'm still speaking for my self.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: How should I use new RAM?  Handles, swap, etc?
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:49:05 GMT

In article <Sep.29.18.08.29.1992.21374@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:
>Right now I run GEOS on a '286 with 1mb of RAM, and have my "handles" set to
>the default, 1500.  A friend of mine is giving me 4 megs of RAM [1mb SIMMS to
>replace my current 256k SIMMS], which I hope to have installed by later
>tonight.  Will I be able to increase the number of "handles" I use?  What
>would be a good setting?  1500x4=6000?  Should I increase them, or would it
>be better to leave the RAM free for swapping?

You should only be mucking with your handle count if you get a low on
handles message.  BTW, if I remember correctly, the maximum number of
handles is 2500.

Have fun,
	John D. Mitchell
	johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU


P.S.	My opinions and nobody elses.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 01:17:00 +0200
From: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de (Rudi Ferrari)
Subject: The SYSAPPL directory and FILE CABINET
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
X-Comment-To: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca (Slegge)
Organization: Magic Point of C.O.N. Project Cologne  *FRG* 


 > I'm trying to find extra hard-drive space wehre ever I can; will
 > removing the SYSAPPL directory affect anything in the professional
 > workspace?

If you don`t use the APPLIANCE ROOM (leftmost "Button" in Welcomescreen)
and the FIRST... ROOM (small "button" under Proffesional "Button" in the
middle of the Welcome screen) you can imho erase all file in SYSAPPL
directory.

At the same time, you can set in geos.ini following:

[...]
[welcome]
[...]
startuproom = Professional
dos room = false
applianceroom = false
firstlookroom = false
professionalroom = true
[...]

and you will not see those buttons anymore in Welcome :-)

 > The only files that seem to have any improtance are a "Graphical
 > Set-up" and a "Welcome" file -- the rest are "full-screen" beginer
 > applications.

The important files for the professional room, are all in the World
directory.

 > So if I erase all these files, how will that effect the "advanced
 > area"?

in no way.
I did it once with the Vs. 1.1, and it had made no trouble. As long
as you don`t enter in the appliance room. But if you do, the only
thing what happens, is that it will not find any applications.

But until now, I did not with the pro version. (Probably I will,
because my laptop becomes full...)

 > you had selected it from the welcome screen.  You can also move this
 > icon into the WORLD directory and use it as an alternative to
 > GeoManager to manage your files if you like.

You also can put appliances in the World dir, but why?

see `ya

      ____
Lambo/Rudi                     >>> internet: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de <<<
~~~~~

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From: gnd@idaho.amdahl.com (Greg Darnell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: New uploads to SIMTEL20
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:42:11 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp., Rexburg, ID

I have uploaded several new files of interest to Geoworks
users to SIMTEL20.  They should appear in the geoworks directory and
at the mirror sites in a few days after they are processed by the
archive maintainer.

<msdos.geoworks>
ADDICON.ZIP     Modifies GEOS.INI to use icons for files

Addicon automates the modification of your GEOS.INI file for assigning
specific icons to specific files or files with common names or extensions.

WACHCLOK.ZIP    Analog clock w/second hand for GeoWorks

Thomas Wachsmann's shareware analog clock for Geos.  Very cute, but I
had a similar problem to Shag's - the clock was obscured for a moment by
another window, and when it reappeared the hands had stopped.

GEOTIPS2.ZIP    GEOS Tips & Tricks number 2 (GeoWrite file)

A large GeoWrite file with much useful info on icons, GEOS.INI, external
protocols, essential files, and more.

Greg

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From: drakonar@cs.montana.edu (Charles L. Stewart III)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Pyramid Odds
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:27:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Sep29.152726.9533
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717

In article <1992Sep29.024738.3195@linus.mitre.org> mamason@mbunix.mitre.org (Mason) writes:
>Before my wife becomes completely exasperated, what is the chances of
>winning at the Pyramid Solitaire that comes with the Escape package?
>-- 
>|Marc A. Mason		| The MITRE Corporation    |
>|Technical Assistant	| Burlington Road          |
>|UNIX Systems		| Bedford, Massachusetts   |
>|(617)-271-7506		| 01730 (mamason@mitre.org)|


I don't know what the odds *should* be, but I don't think they're constant.  :)
In the months I've had Escape, I've won Pyramid about 20-25 times.  Most of 
those wins come in bunches, like 4 of 8, 3 of 6, 2 of 3, and so on.  I have
had runs of 20-30 games without a win, also.
So . . . who knows?

-- 
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	          "Oh oh.  Looks like we need another Timmie!"
			   For Dinosaurs fans only.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 23:38:00 +0200
From: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de (Rudi Ferrari)
Subject: SCO ODT and Geos
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
X-Comment-To: goose@ais.org (Christopher L. Goosman)
Organization: Magic Point of C.O.N. Project Cologne  *FRG* 


 > I got my first look at SCO's Open Desk Top yesterday, and the first
 > thing to
 > come to mind was, "Holy cow! This looks a lot like Geoworks!" Has anyone
 > else noticed the asthetic similarities?

Probably, because SCO`s Open Desk Top has also a MOTIF GUI...

(I do not know SCO ODT)

see `ya

      ____
Lambo/Rudi                     >>> internet: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de <<<
~~~~~

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Font conversion....
Summary: All kinds.
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:40:32 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

Through the wonders of FTP, I can snag a given amount of ready-to-use fonts 
for GEOS.  I can also snag a [larger] amount of ready-to-use fonts for other
systems, in particular, those which have a history of being used for desktop
publishing.  [Anything Steve Jobs ever worked on. ;)]

What would I need to get software-wise to convert said fonts into a format
that GEOS could use, or into a format that GEOS's font-converter could then
convert into a format GEOS could use?

Fonts in question are for Amiga, Mac, NeXT, Atari-ST, DOS, Windows, Postscript,
Ghostscript.

-Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
From: GUF@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: GEODEX Print To File
Date: 27 Sep 92 13:18:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92271.091805GUF
Organization: Penn State University

I use GW Pro and my manual shows a screen in GEODEX with a Print
to File button.  But my software shows only a print and cancel button.
What's going on here?  If it did print to file, would it be a standard
delimited file that I could import into a database program. Please help.
Gil Gall (guf@psuvm.psu.edu)
From: cheese%etdai2.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com (ETDAI2::CHEESE)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: FTP Sites
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:53:27 GMT

Gil,

Try SIMTEL20 for the latest stuff or its mirror at wuarchive.wustl.edu (not quite 
as current as SIMTEL20).  Also there is a site that Shag refers to as MIR.  Where
is that site Shag?

cwleong
leong%etdai2.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com
echthelion@aol.com
From: ted@helios.ucsc.edu (Ted Cantrall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: location of icon files
Date: 7 Oct 1992 00:02:11 GMT
Organization: UCO/Lick Observatory, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ted@helios.ucsc.edu (Ted Cantrall)
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

I am probably missing the obvious, but I can't find where the icons are
stored. They are seperate files, aren't they? Can someone tell me where
they are located?			-ted-

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,news.answers
From: cyj9h@csissun10.ee.Virginia.EDU (Charles Y. Choi)
Subject: Re: SYSAPPL directory and FILE CABINET
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:39:18 GMT

In article <1a9cqhINNah6@golem.wcc.govt.nz> harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>Please excuse my ignorance, but what *is* ksh?


ksh is short for Korn shell, a command line interface that is commonly 
used with the Unix operating system.  What, a command line interface, 
a part of a GUI?  Why not?  I've always thought of GWE as turning
my humble 286 notebook into Sparc-wannabe.

-charles





-- 
"What a morning!  Birds, fish, frogs, and humans!"
                                      -Maya the Bee
From: mamason@mbunix.mitre.org (Mason)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Pyramid Odds
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:47:38 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.

Before my wife becomes completely exasperated, what is the chances of
winning at the Pyramid Solitaire that comes with the Escape package?
-- 
|Marc A. Mason		| The MITRE Corporation    |
|Technical Assistant	| Burlington Road          |
|UNIX Systems		| Bedford, Massachusetts   |
|(617)-271-7506		| 01730 (mamason@mitre.org)|
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 09:53:00 +0100
From: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de (Rudi Ferrari)
Subject: wahclock (was Re: Two new uploads to mir.eco.utexas.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
X-Comment-To: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Organization: Magic Point of C.O.N. Project Cologne  *FRG* 


You wrote andrzej@bnr.ca (Andrzej Bieszczad):

 > it is.  I got wahclock.zip, and it does look quite nice... unfortunately
 > if I use the configuration menu, the clock hands stop moving... hmmm.

This is a known problem. But meanwhile, Thomas has a bugfix, which
follows in this message :-)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -schnippidipip- - -

By: Thomas Wachsmann    (tomw@chamber.in-berlin.de)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Problems with Clock Version 0.9.
First of all the fix for this bug:
  Search UHR.GEO or CLOCK.GEO for the following bytes (all in hex)
    A5 00 C3 00 00 00   (they are at file-offset 05D0)
  replace with
    A5 00 B8 01 00 C3
  That's it !
Now, for the curious, the explanation for the bug:
This is a temporary bug. :-) If you wait long enough, it will go away. When the
clock-window is redisplayed by restarting the clock- application after shut-
down, the program will wait anywhere from one sixtieth second to 65535 sixtieth
seconds (about 18 minutes) before it starts moving the hands. I just forgot to
load the register that specifies this delay. The above fix will load it with
'1', so the clock will start to work normally after one sixtieth second (which
is, by the way, the smallest clock-tick in PC/GEOS).

Changing the default colors in CLOCK.GEO or UHR.GEO:
The colors are at the following file-offsets (all in hex):
  0241: hour-hand
  0251: minute-hand
  0261: second-hand
  0265: clock-face
  0267: the little lines for the twelve hours
For monochrome or CGA-displays you should only use 0 or 15 as color.

Now some 'real' patches:
Changing the window-background-color, that can't be changed in the
  configuration: offset 0D84 for UHR.GEO and offset 0D78 for CLOCK.GEO
Changing the aspect ratio of the display:
  at offset 0D8E for UHR.GEO and offset 0D82 for CLOCK.GEO use
    96 for VGA-display (default value),
    6B for EGA-display,
    61 for HGC-display,
    3E for CGA-display.
  This will correct the distorted display on non-VGA-displays.
  I will add an automatic correction to the final version, but right now
  I have no idea how to do that...

PLEASE DO NOT DISTRIBUTE MODIFIED VERSIONS OF CLOCK.GEO OR UHR.GEO, EXCEPT FOR
THE BUG-FIX-PATCH ! You should instead include this message in the
distribution-archive.

Thanks for the positive reactions to my programs,
   Thomas


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -schnapdipap- - - -

Hope it helps
      ____
Lambo/Rudi                     >>> internet: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de <<<
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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Microsoft makes like GEOS? (was ****Windows NT Will be Delayed...)
Keywords: Delay!
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:19:17 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

newsbytes@clarinet.com wrote in newsgroup clari.nb.top:

>REDMOND, WASHINGTON, U.S.A., 1992 SEP 28 (NB) -- Microsoft
>Corporation says it won't make its target date for Windows NT, which
>the company had said would come to market by the end of 1992.
[...]
>"Our goal is to ship a very high-quality product, rather than meet a
>particular date," said Microsoft spokesperson Collins Hemingway.

Well, now that Microsoft themselves are being cautious about stating firm
dates for software releases, maybe the upcoming Geoworks releases [v2.0 and
the SDK] will be able to steal a little of their thunder after all!  :)

[Hopes that this delay on Microsoft's part will serve as an encouragement
to the Geoworks gang and spur them on to get 2.0 on the market before NT. :)]

-Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
From: CHEESE%ETDAI2.decnet@etd88a.mdc.com (CHEESE B-})
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Naming conventions
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:43:32 GMT

How about using GWE#####.ext instead?  Does Geoworks have any sort of trademark
rights to the initials GWE?  This seems to be the preferred abbreviation on 
the list to refer to Geoworks Ensemble and the others (like Pro).

JohnM does have a good point, GEOS stuff oughta already be located in GEOS
specific directories at the archive sites.  Either way is fine with me, I 
personally like keeping stuff in specifically named directories rather than
wasting 37% of the filename space on three letters.  It's bad enough trying to
name something in 8 char positions let alone losing 3 of them...

Chee Woo Leobng
(oops...)Leong
McDonnell Douglas, St. Louis
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: GW and DRDOS Update
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:10:11 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

phurley@tamu.edu (Philip W. Hurley) writes:

>I recently received an update to DRDOS 6 and was very pleased to see an 
>example configuration file for GEOS. 

What sort of "example configuration file" was it?  A sample config.sys, or
something else?  

-Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Printing to a file.
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:19:58 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

rpz@ems.cdc.com (Rob Zachman) writes:

>I seem to recall 'bout a year ago that someone had a simple workaround that let
>them reconfigure printers, and write printer output to disk (and then floppy
>footnet to the laser).

Snag yourself a copy of "vprint."  It intercepts the port output to the printer
and dumps it to disk.  It's available from the Geoworks FTP areas, and I've
used it with great success before.  

-Shag

-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
From: cyj9h@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU (Charles Y. Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: SYSAPPL directory and FILE CABINET
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:21:17 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep28.193635.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
> 
>I just found it interesting that the File Cabinet appliances openned
>as a resizable Application when booted from the GeoManager.  All the 
>other appliances boot as "full-screen" -- for this reason, some might
>choose to use this as an alternative file manager to GeoManager.
> 

 Even more interesting is doing one kind of disk operation with one
 (e.g. formatting a floppy with GeoManager) while doing something else
 (moving directories with File Cabinet) with the other.  

 Just waiting for ksh for Geos...

 -charles

 
 





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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: wilson@hsi.com (John Wilson)
Subject: GeoWorks in PC World
Summary: Pro, October issue
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 17:38:19 GMT

The October issue of PC World is featuring a comparsion of GeoWorks Pro
against some other worthless products. :-)

Titled "Who Needs Windows?" on the cover, and "Windows Alternatives" on
page 170, PC World asks "Is Windows the best place to juggle programs?..."

I'm not going to go into hideous amounts of detail (it's an 8 page
article), but they compare Desqview, Desqview/X, GeoWorks Pro, and OS/2
2.0 in a few basic areas such as multitasking, basic file management and
task switching.

PC World did their testing on 3 different hardware set ups:  286/10 with
2MB RAM, 40MB Harddisk, standard VGA; 386/33 with 4MB RAM, 100 MB HD, super
VGA; and the same again, only with 8MB RAM.  Desqview and OS/2 were spared
the 286/10, as they both require 386 or better to run.

Throughout the article, the author finds good things about each product,
bad things about each product, and some anecdotes (like about how it took
over 12 hours to install OS/2...), and he sums it all up this way:

"Unless you use a computer only as a family appliance, in which case
_GeoWorks Pro_ is perfect, you need quick access to responsive DOS and
Windows applications.  OS/2 2.0 and _Desqview/X_, while ambitious, are still
too raw to stake your productivity on.  _Desqview_, if you stick mostly to
DOS programs, is unsurpassed in multitasking performance and simplicity,
but puts limits on how you run _Windows_ software.  Although far from
perfect, _Windows_ still does the best job running both kinds of programs -
for now."

Well, IMHO, the revelation that windows software runs best under windows is
not shocking enough to warrant an 8-page article.  Why one would run tests
to see how a program designed for 1 environment would work in different one
(and be surprised about the outcome)?  That's kind of like wondering why 
your 8 track tapes don't sound good in your CD player.

While I have not tried to use any task switching in Pro (I use DOS 5, and
it sounds like too much trouble...), the article did not touch on DR DOS,
and the switching availble there at all.

The article did, of course, touch on the "third party application" issue.

The author spoke a little about support, but only about the OS/2 support,
and how long it took to get an answer (2 weeks).  He did not mention
any other company's support.

But, the article did say some very good things about Pro as well,
especially about the interface.

I wouldn't consider it a bad article, just no great surprises, and a little
short on the research.


john.

PS - All typos are mine, and reprints are entirely without permission (Mom
wouldn't give me a note).
-- 
John H. Wilson                                            "It's a kind of
Wallingford, Connecticut, USA                             magic..."
wilson@hsi.com -OR- {uunet, yale}!hsi!wilson
From: gilem@aix.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Microsoft makes like GEOS? (was ****Windows NT Will be Delayed...)
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:43:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.w0kzy-d
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY

In article <1992Sep30.005303.7024@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> doug-taylor+@osu.edu writes:
>In article <5s+park@lynx.unm.edu> kim@m44.unm.edu writes:
>>
>>Since it seems that Win NT will require a really large amount of RAM just to
>>load, and also needs about all the hard disk space that I own everywhere, I
>>tend to ignore NT news in about the same way I ignore news about applications
>>for the Macintosh.
>
>I know a guy who's using a beta copy of Windows NT, and he was
>complaining the other day that 8 megs wasn't enough for NT to run on
>his 50 Mhz 486; it really needs 12 megs to run well.  Sheesh!
>
>
>-- 
>   Doug Taylor                         |   Nothing real can be threatened.
>   The Ohio State University           |   Nothing unreal exists.
>   doug-taylor+@osu.edu                |            - A Course in Miracles

this isn't entirely correct.  for the pre-beta july release, 12Mb is 
listed as required, and 16Mb is recommended!

MIke
gilem@rpi.edu
From: andrzej@bnr.ca (Andrzej Bieszczad)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: Two new uploads to mir.eco.utexas.edu
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:25:07 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.,

In article <1992Sep25.123538.7809@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor) writes:

   I've uploaded the following two files to mir.eco.utexas.edu:

   wachclok.zip -- A sharware clock for PC/GEOS by Thomas Wachsman.  It
   looks pretty nice.  Docs are in a GeoWrite document.

Could you provide details? I could not find that file.
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