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From: gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Red Mountain)
Subject: Re: IIsi turning on randomly/not shutting down
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:52:19 GMT

In <1992Sep25.152648.13992@cc.umontreal.ca> tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos) writes:
>>D.J. Hagberg writes:_______
>>Hi.
>>        I just got a call from a client who's having a very strange
>>problem with his IIsi.  For the past couple days it's been turning
>>itself on at random times of the night.  Now today we went through
>>some troubleshooting when the problem escalated to the point where
>>it will only "restart" if you do a "shut down".
>D.J., I had the same problem.  What has probably happened is that 
>the motherboard has become slightly dislodged and is making improper
>contact with the off-switch and power supply.  I don't know the internal
>connections very well, but if you pop open the case, and slightly adjust
>the motherboard, the problem should stop.

You might also try to see if it still happens with the keyboard unplugged
(just plug the mouse into the ADB port on the Mac). Sometimes the <| startup
key can be broken and permanently in the down position, causing the
symptoms you cite.

Marty.
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple's Product Lineup
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:53:39 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1ac59fINNho3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> al862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brent D. McLean) writes:

>	Murph's latest Vaporware column shed some light on where Apple
>might be going. He discusses how Apple will be introducing a 20 Mhz, 25
>Mhz, and 40 Mhz Quadra in January. 
>	Murph's column already said the IIci will be replaced by
>the 20 Mhz Quadra. 

According to MacWeek, the "littlest Quadra," which I presume
would be the 20-MHz unit, will be in an LC case.  That would
make it an unlikely replacement for the IIci.

P.S.  Who is Murph?
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From: mithal@laker.enet.dec.com (Sameer Mithal)
Subject: Re: Plug VGA monitor into a MAC...
Reply-To: mithal@laker.enet.dec.com (Sameer Mithal)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:21:42 GMT


I am trying to plug a Magnavox Professionally
enhanced VGA monitor into a IIsi.

Anybody know what would be involved?  This 
monitor is a remnant from when I had a PC.

Thanks
Sameer
From: seanmcd@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PB 160 or Duo 210: Which is more expensive??
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:12:52 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Will a PB160 be more or less expensive than a Duo 210 without a docking station?
Does the Duo have video out without a docking station? (I guess not; then why 
the docking station?)
Maybe it's too early to ask this, but I like the idea of mulling over in my
mind which Mac I might possibly get if I have any money...almost as good as
having one!

NOT
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: color cards and classic II
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:40:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>Hi. Ive seen questions similar to this one before but Im not still not
>clear about the answer. I am wondering how can add color capabilities to
>a Classic II. Will any 8 or 16 bit video card work? Are video cards
>that were made to work on the SE/30 compatible with the Classic II? Is there
>a way to add a card which will allow the classic II to display grayscales
>on its own monitor? Does anyone know if the prices of video cards has
>been dropping or will drop in the near future?

David:

  If I remember right the Classic and Classic II have no PDS or nu-bus
slots.  As a result, you have no place to attach the vid card to the
CPU.  The classic II has zero expandibility (you can also give up on
cache or direct accelerators).  So, for the short answer, no I don't
think you can.

  It might be possible, if you bought an SE/30 upgrade board, and
replaced the Classic II mother.  That would give you the PDS slot,
(plus the FPU that they never put in the Classic II) and the
internal monitor should be able to use the greyscale adaptor,
so IF the powersupply could handle it (might be a big if) it should
work.  But it would probably cost you more than you paid for the
Classic II.  So, long answer, yes but wouldn't be worth it.


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Distribution: world
From: John_S._Hammond@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:54:08 PDT
Subject: Re: Flaky Seiko CM1445 Monitor... HELP!!

Though I'm unfamiliar with the Seiko, it sounds like a bad power supply
or flakey connector (or solder joint) in your monitor.
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:02:17 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos) writes:

>Brian, are you a sucker for flamebait or what?

>The IIsi without a cache card has 60-70 percent the speed of a IIci, so
>the difference would remain the same with a cache card and FPU installed
>if the IIci had a cache card installed.  According to Byte Benchmarks in
>real-world tests the IIsi operates at 60-70% the speed of the IIci in
>non-FPU intensive applications.

    Well, unless you can tell me what a real-world test is, I won't ba
able to comment on this too much. I will say that I was quite happy
using my IIsi when I had it, but the fact remains that the P600 is
worlds ahead of the IIsi in the expansion department.

>With a cache card and FPU, the IIsi runs at about 90%-95% the speed of a
>IIci without a cache.  What does that tell you, Brian.

    It tells me that the P600 would probably get the same numbers with
an FPU installed and still have room for 3 NuBus cards and an
accelerator card, where the IIsi would be done with its expansion
capabilities. It also tells me that you need to hit return at about
every 70-80 characters because it is becomming tiresome to reformat your
posts when I decide to reply.


--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: daver@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Ruby)
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:46:05 GMT

tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos) writes:

>    Yup, mono input, and stereo output, just like all the other Macs
>that have built in sound out.

>Well, Brian, the Classic II, LC and LC II all have sound-in, sound out capacity
>and all these machines are mono-in, mono-out.  If the Performa 600CD has stereo
>out ports, then these are for sounds recorded on CD-rom and traditional CD's
>According to Byte magazine, november issue, the Performa 600 has the same
>sound chip as the LC and LC II thus, mono sound.

Does this refer to speaker sound or sound via the sound jack in the back?
I was under the impression (possibly wrongly) that all macs have only
one speaker, but would produce stereo sound if you attached speakers to
the jack in the back.

David Ruby                                 daver@uiuc.edu   
Lincoln Hall Network Administrator         University of Illinois
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From: marcoc@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (GUEST Marco Calamari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP: Quantum LPS240 hdu problems ?!?!?!
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:41:37 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

I bought and installed a Quantum 3.5" LPS240 internal hdu on my SE/30.

I'm very happy (for those first days !!!) but also have a couple of doubt.

1) The hard disk is factory preset on SCSI-ID 2; I obviously would prefere
  to set on SCSI-ID 0, but i dont know if and what jumper must be moved.
  
2) From time to time (each 2 minutes) the hard dosk does a couple of seconds
  of frantic activity, also with the mac completely idle; apparently there 
  are no problems for this fact.
  
Any idea/explanation/warning from LPS owners ??? Thanx a lot.    Marco

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From: davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (David Morgenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: BMUG Newsletter Article Request
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:37:18 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University


Dear Netters:

Newsletter Articles Wanted! Yes, That means you!

BMUG, formerly the Berkeley Macintosh Users Group and now just
BMUG, is requesting everyone to submit articles for our upcoming
Spring '92 Newsletter. They can be on anything that might be
of interest to a computer user.

The last issue had sections on hardware, software, System 7,
Desktop Productions (dtp+), programming, telecomm, PowerBooks,
computers in society, and commentary. How can there be so much? The
"newsletter" is around 450+ pages!

The articles don't have to be clones of the monthly rags that we
see on the news stands. We want real users, real solutions, and
real life stories!

If your article is accepted, you receive a six month membership in
BMUG, which includes the Newsletter, BMUG Memo (a small publication
that comes out every now and then), access to our BBS (16-lines),
notice of any special offers that developers make to our members, 
and use of our telephone HelpLine. I know this doesn't sound like
much to people that are connected through the InterNet, but you'd
also get thousands of people that don't see your signature everyday
oohing and aahing over your words. 

The deadline for submission is soon, October 31, 1992. The
Newsletter will be sent to our members in late January.

If this sounds like a good idea, please send your articles to 

Tim_Holmes@bmug.org  or         

snailmail on disk (a good way for insurance)

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PS: If you sent in an article and think it was accepted -- and
haven't received your copy of the Newsletter yet -- please send an
inquiry to Tim_Holmes@bmug.org including the title of your article,
your snail address, and whatever else you might want to mention...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: MARK@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Mark R. Williamson)
Subject: Re: WANTED: portable printer for powerbook
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:40:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.141039.10627@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner) writes:
>GCC just released the WriteMove II. A battery powered InkJet designed with
>the PowerBook in mind (same color even).
 
I saw a WriteMove II at a campus MacFest this week.  It's not an inkjet.
It uses a ribbon, which comes in single-use (like a typewriter carbon ribbon)
or multistrike for drafts (like a typewriter cloth ribbon, but only does five
passes).  The drafts aren't faster or grainier, just less dense.  Either way,
I think it's a 360dpi printer, but I didn't pick up a brochure.
 
Mark R. Williamson, Rice U., Houston TX; MARK@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU or @RICEVM1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple 13" Monitor degausing
From: <CTCOLE@MTUS5.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 1 Oct 1992 11:45:18 EST
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.

Hello all...

Just recently, my Apple 13" color monitor took a nasty bump while I was
moving some of my computer equipment around.  Ever since then, the
monitor degauses itself every time I turn it on.  It's starting to almost
sound like a cow mooing!  Did I happen to break something, or are
horrible moans and groans normal out of the monitor?

Thanks,
Christopher Cole

ctcole@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
mac@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
ctcole@mtu.edu
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Connecting PowerBook 140 to Supra FAXModem
Date: 30 Sep 1992 18:27:28 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu


	[ Greg, your article appears as coming "From: whern@bnr.ca" but
	[ email to that site gets bounced with "Unknown local user";
	[ I suspect you should have a chat with your news-gurus about this...
	[ (sent me email with a usable return address, and I'll forward the
	[ bounce to you)....
	[ maybe you are on a private (company-internal) Internet, reading/posting
	[ news via a gateway machine in Canada? and your own machine does not
	[ include a domain-style address (whern.bnr.uk for example?!?)

	anyway, to answer your question:  you need a modem cable which
	implements hardware hand-shake (sold mail-order arround here for
	less than $15).  I'm using a home-made cable right now between my PB
	and my SupraFax (as I am typing)...

	however, especially slower Macs (68k based PB100, SE, Plus, 512, 128)
	have problems keeping up with transmission speeds which take advantage
	of the modem built-in compression (i.e. hardware handshake has to
	work flawlessly to avoid retries in streaming protocols, such as
	Zmodem) as the data transmission speed Mac-to-modem can easily exceed
	the modem-to-modem signal speed of 14.4k baud (try it yourself: up/down
	load a 100k file, containing only one char, over and over...)
	I believe it to be caused by a "weak" implementation of serial port
	hardware and software drivers, but I am willing to listen to anyone
	who has a different (better?) explanation ...
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From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Performa Plus Display
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:24:34 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

craig_williams@qmgate.fnal.gov (Craig Williams) writes:

> Curious about other people's impression of the new Performa color
> monitors.  I was looking at the "Performa Plus Display" yesterday.
CW>  I too wandered by Sears to check out the new machines, and 
CW> was extremely dissappointed in the quality of the new monitor. 
CW> It was not even close to the quality of my Apple 13" RGB, 
CW> and I'd say it was closer to quality of years back when *some* 
CW> computers ran through an RF modulator to a television. It 
CW> was hooked up to a P400 (LCII). Was this just a mishap from 
CW> the factory that needs to be degaussed or converged? What 
CW> have other people observed?

Well, now, hang on.  The original poster starts out talking about the new
Performa monitors--note the plural there, there are two new monitors designed
to work with the Performas--and then he says he was looking at the Performa
Plus Display.

Then in your response, you talk about "the new monitor," singular.  Which one
were you looking at?  I don't know which one you looked at, but I strongly
suspect you looked at the Performa Display, not the Performa Plus Display. 
From its specs alone, the Performa Display--0.39mm dot pitch, something like
IBM EGA quality or less--sounds like a real dog, and probably what you were
seeing.  So, your comments didn't really address the original poster's
question.  Alas, some readers may not have caught that, and may get confused.

Noise, noise, noise.

The Performa Plus Display is 0.29mm dot pitch, which is close to the roughly 0
28mm dot pitch of the Apple 13" HighRes (you can't really measure dot pitch in
a Trinitron tube like the Apple HighRes), but the tube is manufactured by some
unknown source.  It's not a Trinitron, and isn't as expensive, and therefore
is of lesser quality than the HighRes despite its dot pitch.

--Adam--
 
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From: Sarn Jiralerspong <sj10@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Modem Info
X-Xxdate: Sat, 26 Sep 92 14: 45:59 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: sj10@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:40:50 GMT

Re: Modem Info

The way I understand it is that there are 3 types of standards fors
modems, one each for speed, error correction (for bad phone lines), and
compression.  v.22, v.32, and v.32 bis are speed protocols for 2400,
9600, and 14400Kbs transmission respectively (that is, if a modem say
v.32bis it can transmit at 14400K and all of the lower speeds as well). 
The major error protocolos are MNP 2-4 and Lap-M. Here is where I used to
get confused.  A modem that supports all of these error protocolos is
said to be v.42 compliant.  At first sight this might seem to mean it
supports speeds greater than 14400k, but it doesn't.  A modem can be both
v.32bis and v.42.  Finally, the major data compression protocols are
v.42bis (more confusion) and MNP5 (yet more confusion).  These allow data
to be effectively transmitted faster than the maximum modem speed. 
Ideally, your modem will support v.32bis (speed), v.42 (error
correction), and v.42bis/MNP5(data compression).  But looking at many of
the ads in the computer magazines, you come to realize most of the
dealers don't even understand the naming standards, so I would ask the
manafacturer directly before you buy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Sarn Jiralerspong <sj10@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Modem Info
X-Xxdate: Sat, 26 Sep 92 14: 23:18 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: sj10@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:18:37 GMT

Re: Modem Info

The way I understand it is that there are 3 types of standards fors
modems, one each for speed, error correction (for bad phone lines), and
compression.  v.22, v.32, and v.32 bis are speed protocols for 2400,
9600, and 14400Kbs transmission respectively (that is, if a modem say
v.32bis it can transmit at 14400K and all of the lower speeds as well). 
The major error protocolos are MNP 2-4 and Lap-M. Here is where I used to
get confused.  A modem that supports all of these error protocolos is
said to be v.42 compliant.  At first sight this might seem to mean it
supports speeds greater than 14400k, but it doesn't.  A modem can be both
v.32bis and v.42.  Finally, the major data compression protocols are
v.42bis (more confusion) and MNP5 (yet more confusion).  These allow data
to be effectively transmitted faster than the maximum modem speed. 
Ideally, your modem will support v.32bis (speed), v.42 (error
correction), and v.42bis/MNP5(data compression).  But looking at many of
the ads in the computer magazines, you come to realize most of the
dealers don't even understand the naming standards, so I would ask the
manafacturer directly before you buy.
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From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: REQ: Want Info on Ink-Jet style Printers (or equivs)
Keywords: Mac SE low cost printer letter quality
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:12:41 GMT
Organization: NIKHEFK


Hi,

I have a friend who'd like to buy a reasonable-quality printer
(reasonable means approaching what you can do with a good laser
printer) for her Mac SE (2.5 MB, 2 800 K floppy, 60 Meg HD,
running system 6.0.3 or somesuch.)  She lives in the USA.  I
remembered seeing ads for inkjet-style printers awhile back
going for about $400 or so.  What she would like (I'll
collect the responses at this address) is

	the names of good printers in this sort of range that
		she can use for her Mac

	the names of good places to buy them.  she can do mail order,
		or also go in person to places reasonably close
		to Indianapolis, Indiana

Please email responses to this address!  Speed is appreciated,
she needs to get it pretty quick!!  Thanks all (and if this
is not a good newsgroup to post the Q, please crosspost for
me?)

				Jeff Templon
From: helpless
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: B+W Mac Icon at Startup
Date: 2 Oct 1992 00:45:45 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley
Distribution: us
NNTP-Posting-Host: lew1mac34.cchem.berkeley.edu

 Does anyone know why the icon in the 'Welcome to Macintosh' box should be in
black and white on my color monitor.  I'm sure it never used to be until
recently.  Is this a sign something bad is about to happen?
From: estemmle@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Ed Stemmler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Hand Held Scanner
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:27:57 GMT
Organization: Univ of Penna

I'm looking into purchasing a Lightning Scan scanner for use with a Powerbook
100.  I'll be using the scanner for OCR and need to know if it requires external/
internal power and it's impact on the Powerbook (ie. RAM, HD storage).  Please
respond to my mail account.  Thanks
From: cr@cs.strath.ac.uk (Chris Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Mac Price Cuts
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:16:34 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK

Does anybody know whether Apple plan to cut prices in the UK as well?


Chris
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