HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Subject: Re: hot bi babes
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:49:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



>.... and I _was_ thinking of a very particular pair of lycra leggings 
>when I posted that <grin>. They're...umm... *impressive*.

I can feel a scan coming on of you wearing them with your Winnie the Pooh 
tee shirt... Impressive is not the word Bethan, downright drop-dead 
amazing is more appropriate...

>The ex-SO (Ted) gave me a 'you don't _seriously_ expect me to walk around
>with you in _public_ when you're wearing that' look. I did.
>He suffered.

I got exactly that from my mother. She says she's embarrassed to walk 
around with me when I go colourful. Gee thanks Mom. Again, in this
situation, they suffer, but it finally took enough guts to say "accept
me for what I am or never see me again"... unfair? Naaah, just self
preservation.

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From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Tech Post, no content whatsoever (was Re: Alt.sex.wizards)
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:19:30 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler) writes:
>woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) says:
>>   Oh, I'm sobbing in relief. I thought I Was The Only One Like This... 8->
>>
>>   (I *still* have maybe 50 double-sided disks full of Apple II games...)
>
>Are these the 'double sided' disks that you had to punch yourself?

   "Punch"!?! I wish I'd had such a high-tech solution!

   I had to *cut* these write-protect slots on the other side myself! 8->


>And wasn't punching them a ball?  I remember being thrilled to get a
>'real' disk-punch rather than just a normal hole-punch..

   I think I was weaned from the Apple II just about when those disk-
puncher-thingies were released...or maybe it was just that my local
library finally kicked me off their computer so I could hack games any
more! 8-> (Of course, the games are nothing compared to what's around
these days...but Ultima III was a Big Thing back then! 8->).

Joe.

  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats! (miaow!)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Matt Chatterly Returns to soc.bi!
From: matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:59:36 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

He strolls back in to the entrance to the net.room, his eyes lighting
up when he sees Peg...ahem, *busy*.  A smile crosses his face, as he
slowly thinks of the good times he'll have when everybody...
	But wait!  There are so many new faces in the net.room!  He
smiles again, his eyes scanning the prospects.  And then he enters--to
get aquainted....
	Hello everyone!  The name's Matt Chatterly.  I know some of
you will remember me; others please get to know me--I have so much to
offer, as Peg can attest to!  (I've been a bad boy this summer,
Peg--won't you dish out the punishment?  I'm so glad to see we're both
back!)
	Anyhow, I *am* back, ready for another interesting year here
at the University of Kansas--and I've missed e-flirting like you
wouldn't believe!  I didn't know you could get addicted to them, but
you can!
	Sadly, my system here at Oread has deleted a great many of the
soc.bi articles, so I only know a little bit of the topics being
discussed--a birthday greeting (did I miss out on the spanking?), a
discussion about cross-posting, lots about "hot bi-studs," (Were you
involved in that one, Elf?), and others.  But I'm back, and ready to
resume the job I kind of "made up" in this group; me being the
(un)official "greeter" of soc.bi, welcoming new people to our happy
home.  To all of you who I didn't welcome, come on over to this little
corner of the net.room...that's it...now, tell me what you want.  
	Boy, there are a lot of you!  Uh, Peg?  Could you give me a
hand?  Ooooh! That was lovely, my dear, but I mean introducing me or
such--you have been back a little bit longer than I!
	Yikes!  So much to do, so little time in which to do it!
Well, I shall be back as soon as I am able.  This goes out to all of
you: I'd love to hear (and flirt) with all of you, so drop me a note
at the 'ol address located in my mail.sig and get me back in the
spirit of soc.bi!
					--Matt

P.S.  Larry?  Are you out there?  Anybody know where he is?  Or is it
that he's not up at his college yet?  Yeah, maybe that's it....  
-- 
Matt Chatterly             | "How'd you get hand lotion all the way up there?"
(A blatant pseudonym...)   | "I told you I spilled it...."
Matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu |		--from _Young Lady Chatterly_
				      					
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Iseult, Tanaquai and crutches (was: That bloody War )
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:38:22 GMT

 fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
+>tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
>> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) writes:
>>
>>Protection ?!!??!!  Protection from little 'ol becrutched femmey me.  I don't
>>>think so.  
>>
+><grin> I did pick the two lightest, least aggressive people I could recall
+>being in the U.K.!
>
> Hmmph. And there was me feeling touched at being thought of as a protector.
>See how much saving-from-the-crutch /I/ do.. <grin>

Aww, go chew some tree-of-life root ;-).

Tanaqui


Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sharon@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Grant's party... and demuffining self
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:15:15 PDT

In article <1992Aug15.230728.127354@zeus.calpoly.edu>, cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe L Johnson) writes:
> SHARON@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU ("Sharon Snyder, Summer Ice Queen") writes:
>                                                     ^^^ ^^^^^
> "Ice Queen"?... yeah, right!
> 

OK, so I warm up quickly! :-) ... but my summer office is an
icebox...and I rule, ok? just wait and see what my name is when I
move back to my REAL office >=]

>>Coe, party snuggle buddy extraordinaire:
>>>Warning, look out!
>>
>><Sharon appreciates warning... looks all around frantically... look,
>>up in the sky... it's a bird, it's a plane it's ...>
>>
>>>[coe pounces]
>>It's a Coe! Yay! *snuggle* *cuddle* 
>>*tumble*  <sigh>
>   ^^^^^^
> Oh, dear, i do believe we have ended up on the floor again... *snuggle*...
> what shall we do to amuse ourselves down here? :^) 
> 

roll over into the hot tub? <splash> and we'll see just who admires
my in/famous hand action now! :-)  *tickle* (hmmmph... that's all
I'll do in front of the nasty lurkers! ... more redeemable in
person) 

BTW, Grant, you know your kitchen floor is too dang cold! If only
you were moving to a *warmer* climante... but noooooooo, couldn't
accomodate me like that, now couldja?

> -Coe
> cjohnson@nyx.calpoly.edu  (not polyslo any more)

Sharon
sharon@pomona.claremont.edu (never polyslo or polyfast)
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Big numbers
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:50:35 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

Oh, just been looking around the news system, and this article's going
to be #9908 or so for soc.bi... since we missed a little at the start,
I guess that we're, globally, somewhere about the ten-thousand-messages
mark.

I think that calls for a little celebration, don't you?

		love to you all, dear friends
				Kay
-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
From: rickc@agora.uucp (Rick Coates)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Nature of soc.bi (was Re: Who am I anyway?)
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:11:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.1992Aug21.041114.13058
Organization: Open Communications Forum

jbl@mesaadm.cre.nt.com (JB) writes:

>In article <17886@acorn.co.uk> Owen Smith, osmith@acorn.co.uk writes:
>>Anyway, the person I was talking to asked in what way soc.bi was helpful
>to
>>me, since she'd felt a bit shunned and ignored when she posted here. 

...

>Maybe?  Maybe not.  I would however, call this group cliquey, very much
>so compared to other boards, but let's assume this is because of the very

Boards?  I haven't had experience with BBS's or CompuServe and its ilk,
so I can't comment on them.

As for Usenet, I feel that soc.bi is a very open and warm newsgroup.
Much more so than soc.motss.  I enjoy motss, but can see how many could
easily be intimidated there.


>JB
>No signature. no disclaimer.  no explanations to anyone but myself

And no name.  Not cranking, just observing.  I do seem to notice (maybe
just tonight) that soc.bi has a lot of initials running around.  Actually,
it's fun - on soc.bi you can really have no idea of the gender of the poster!

Rick

Rick Coates
rickc@agora.rain.com
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Fashionably Bi? :)
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:12:28 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug18.050421.27364@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.095012.1@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu> 
>The popular media has covered bisexuality in spurts; 

Has everybody seen the three page spread on Bisexuality in this weeks
Newsweek?  Don't know the date, but it has a black and white phote of
a Bosnia child behind a fence.  Not a terrible article, really.

Does anyone know why we (GBLO) folk get so much more coverage by
Newsweek than Time?

Sandy
100,000 lemmings can't all be wrong.
From: aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:22:20 GMT
	<AAG.92Aug12232938@artemis.aber.ac.uk>
	<1992Aug12.232334.19162@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <1992Aug12.232334.19162@midway.uchicago.edu> 
orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:
   In article <AAG.92Aug12232938@artemis.aber.ac.uk> aag@aber.ac.uk 
   (Angela Gilham) invited blatant flirts by writing:
   |So surprise us! Gaylaxicon is in Chicago next year, and there are
   |people on this side of the Atlantic pondering holidays in the US
   |next year, with Gaylaxicon as one of the points of reference ;-)

      Angela's gonna be in chicago next year???

Uh huh. 'Tis possible. I've managed to land myself one of those paying
job type things, and have certain long range holiday plans lurking at
the back of my mind . . . involving locations such as Providence, 
Lowell (to collect my back rub ;-) and points westward . . .

      *Swoon*  <thump>

Awwwww. I hope you didn't hurt yourself hitting the floor that hard. 
Come on over here and let the bog vampyre kiss it better ;-)

Skritch. Skritch.

Ang (This is *much* more fun than Chapter 5)

--
Angela Gilham.                 \ aag@aber.ac.uk \ "You should have fallen in
Department of Computer Science  \                \ love with a happy man, if 
University of Wales, Aberystwyth,\ +44 970 622433 \ you wanted happiness. But
Penglais, Aberystwyth,            \                \ you fell for the breath-
SY23 3BZ. United Kingdom.          \                \ taking beauty of pain."
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Silly Quotes
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



[Bethan Writes]
>I came across this quote as a header for a 'low fat' food  advert in a
>slimmer's magazine (and no, it wasn't mine!)
>' Don't fight the temptation. Lick it.'
>It just caught my imagination.... |-)

In_a_slimmer's_magazine?
ROFL

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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sara@blkhole.resun.com (Sara Hopkins (Swamp Thing))
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 09:10:24 GMT
Organization: Research Unlimited
Keywords: *DeFlower* ME will you...

cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe L Johnson) writes:

>BTW, it was determined last night that the aforementioned hot tub 
>fits five quite nicely.  (there was some concern)  From the length
>of time that it took for us to exit it, it seems to have done just
>fine.  :^)

Hot tub update - six, count them SIX hot bi babes and studs in a tub,
*no* problem!  Apologies if this is old news but I've been without
news for a wee while (aside from the small flurry a few days ago over
the slow line from a terminal near a certain hot tub to castle.ed) and
am now faced with a Large Number of Articles from whence to sift Words
of Wisdom and I'm Nowhere Near Half Way Through Yet.

Sara (the Thing from the Swamp) (for whom the esc-C key sequence is
working nicely) (and who is getting on a plane in a few hours and is
probably making an all nighter of it) (bi bi California)
From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: the "oh" experience
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:07:31 GMT
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: Human Race

Piglet started this wondering about her own relationship,
but heat and light have been expensed/shown by subsequent
posters.  

My best advice follows on with Omaha's... communicate 
and do whatever feels right.  And don't worry if what
feels right today changes next year.  

My own life experience (including the '70s which were
fun for ME) has been that I almost always have two
lovers, one of each gender.  Sometimes they have both
been primary, sometimes one has been secondary (agreed
that way by all parties), some have been threesomes (or
foursomes).  In each case the parameters were figured
out ahead of time and I am proud to say that I am still
friends will all of my ex-partners.  My current family
is going on 9 years for two of us and 7 for the three 
of us.  Polyamory can work. 

Good luck Piglet -- follow your own inner voice.

Rowan


Rowan Fairgrove
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: keithd@stallion.oz.au (Keith Duddy)
Subject: Re: [REQUEST]: COMING-OUT PRIMER ?
Organization: Stallion Technologies
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:58:04 GMT

In <18AUG199200131220@cc.utah.edu> beezer@cc.utah.edu (BEEZER) writes:

>Someone that I have met recently is in the coming-out process (sort of).
>He recently told his girlfriend, and she's fine with it.  Actually,
>he's been researching bisexuality for quite sometime and would like to
>make a movie of it... but in the mean time, he has his own coming-out
>issues to deal with.

>So, all support/movement/reading-material info that can be directed
>this way would be most appreciated.
>________________________________________________________________________

I've been progressively more & more out for the last several years,
and I recently took what seemed the inevitable step of coming out to my
parents. I have had only a couple of opportunities to talk to them about
it since I "dropped the bomb", and came to the stark realisation that my
parents are in the process of *coming out*. I mean this in the sense
that they are confused and ignorant and trying to cope with many of
the same issues as I had to when I came out to myself: dealing with
religious hangups, realising that some of your friends may not
understand and may reject you (I had this fear, and so was very
selective about who i told at first, but having not received a single
bad reaction from anyone who I truely considered a friend I have since
abandoned this fear - BUT my parents' friends are far more likely to be
nasty than mine. My mother is particularly upset that she cannot openly
tell her best friend [one of my oldest friend's mother] because she is
way too fucked-up a Catholic.) They are trying to deal with what being
bisexual means, and its implications in relationships... their main
concern being my "long term happiness" and my ability to form stable
relationships (I kinda think that 3.5 years with my current bonk-buddy,
with a year separation last year in which we both made other bonds is
evidence enough.)

The thing that really struck me was when my mother stopped me while
replying to a question of my father's and asked me to [ something to the
effect of "be gentle" ] because I'd had years to work it out and he was
still coming to accept the idea. I then placed myself 4 or 5 years back
and thought about how confused I'd been and began to understand that
they too had to go through some sort of coming out.

ANYWAY..... I'm really keen to get hold of some literature that might be
of some help to them, or to me in helping them, and I'd like to get a
summary. So can I suggest a post once you have some reasonable number of
replies.

Thanks,
Keith
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: semi-serious question
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:30:12 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Aug14.210943.1@woods.ulowell.edu> gilberts@woods.ulowell.edu
writes:

>In article <1992Aug6.142935.6145@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake) writes:

>> Ok, is there a difference between being bi, and being willing to have sex
>> with people of both sexes?

>	Of course there is, a big difference.  At least, as I see it, I did not
>consider myself bisexual until I had fallen in love with a woman.  I 
>believe that a person steps into bisexuality when the emotions of passion and 
>love come along with the desire for sex.  Just having sex with a member of the 
>same sex does not constitute bisexuality, at least not in my book. 

This is something I've been pondering a bit. By your definition, I'm not
bisexual, since the only attraction I have for men at the moment is that I
want to have sex with a small number of them. By a different (and very
blinkered) definition, I'm not bisexual because I have not actually had sex
with a man, and as soon as I have I'd become bisexual instantly. While the
second is obviously blinkered, I think the first is too. There are quite a
lot of women I'd like to have sex with, but only a small proportion of them
that I'd actually fall in love with. Maybe the proportion with men is the
same, but because I find a lot less of them sexually desirable the numbers
are so small that I just haven't met one I could fall in love with yet.

What I'm trying to say is, people have been arguing against strictness of
labels in soc.bi, and I think strictly labelling the term "bisexual" is even
more silly than strictly labelling homosexual or heterosexual.

Interestingly, I do not consider myself to be a hetero male, but when cross
dressing I do consider myself to be a lesbian, albeit a lesbian who would
enjoy sex with a man from time to time if she could get it.

As someone said earlier, I'm bisexual because I say I am, and similarly as
Gwendolin I'm a lesbian because I say I am.

Owen pp Gwendolin (long legged lesbian with freckles)
From: fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: 'together' & 'at ease..' (was: Re: Who am I anyway?)
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:53:23 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

rickc@agora.uucp (Rick Coates) writes:
>cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>
>>In <17886@acorn.co.uk> osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>>>[...] The surprising thing is, there aren't many (any?) postings on
>>>soc.bi like this. Have you all got yourselves together or what?
>                                                ^^^^^^^^
>
>>It is very easy to read the discussions on soc.bi and think that all
>>the posters are perfectly at ease with themselves (and especially their
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>sexuality). 
>
>To change the emphasis of these posts a bit (at least I changed the
>Subject: heading!):
>
>What do people mean by these phrases?  I really don't feel that I'm
>going towards being 'together'; I kinda like being lots of different
>things spread all over.  I do try to be at ease - but to me that means
>accepting of what I am, not abandoning the search for change, or
>considering the possiblity that I have made, or are making, or will
>make serious blunders.

 Well, in my eyes at least, that's exactly what it does mean; as long
as someone's happy with themselves, then that's really all that
counts; and so whether or not they choose to call themselves
'together' or 'at ease' makes no real difference.

 The 'together' seems to mean not that there's some clump of
personality elements where you are; more that there's no real
internal rifts. I daren't speak for anyone else on this, but I'd tend
to think that once you do know what/who you are, that knowledge would
in some way fill in any chasms that might be there.

 For me, at least, once I'd realised who I am (in this respect, at
least), the internal worries about a lot of things just seemed to fade
away - so there was no longer any sense of being torn between one
thing and another. Perhaps that's what the 'together' is about.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:03:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.232334.19162@midway.uchicago.edu> orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:
>In article <AAG.92Aug12232938@artemis.aber.ac.uk> aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham) invited blatant flirts by writing:
>|So surprise us! Gaylaxicon is in Chicago next year, and there are
>|people on this side of the Atlantic pondering holidays in the US
>|next year, with Gaylaxicon as one of the points of reference ;-)
>
>   Angela's gonna be in chicago next year???
>
>   *Swoon*  <thump>

oh goody!  david in a swoon and completely helpless...
heh heh heh...

peg
-thrilled at the thought of trans-atlantic bisexual travels
in the *right* direction for once...
;)

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Bisexuality and DEC PDP's... is there a link?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:04:46 GMT

In article <MUFFY.92Aug11065814@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:

>I did both at the same time...a PDP 11/70 running RSTS/E and a CYBER
>170/760 with NOS.  Learned both Macro-11 and COMPASS.  Used TECO and
>XEDIT.  Pretty frightening.

Typical bisexual.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Bisexual just means you pay for it."
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Rock Hudson