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From: richard@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu (Richard Dubois)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Corporate Scrimmages on the San Francisco Peninsula
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:38:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: unixhub.5274
Reply-To: richard@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu (Richard Dubois)
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center


  I have received several requests now for where/when there are scrimmages on 
  the Peninsula in the Bay Area. Here is a compilation of the ones I know of.
  I have not listed club teams,  The scrimmages for Lockheed and Mission 
  College could still be added.

  If anyone wishes to turn up for a scrimmage (all contacts professed joy at
  new people), you should get in touch with the contact to verify that there
  will indeed be a scrimmage on the day you choose (we sometimes move our
  scrimmage to play another team, for example). Evening scrimmage times will 
  eventually be affected by available light.

  I am not aware of any Sunday scrimmages on the Peninsula. I'd like to know
  if there are any!

 
 Richard Dubois
  SLAC

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From: Adam Lowe <ST201691@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:19:53 GMT
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Subject:      No Festivities????


Having been on staff in past years, I received this letter today:

    Dear Festival Staff:
         There will _NOT_ be a National Frisbee
    Festival in 1992.  It is time for a
    sabbatical.  After 15 consecutive years
    of the Frisbee Festival, we are going
    to take time off to refresh ourselves.

         [stuff deleted], and look forward to
    seeing you on Saturday, September 4,
    1993.  The 1993 Festival will be on a
    better maintained site--the West side
    of the Washington Monument Grounds.

         [more stuff deleted]

         [signed]   Larry Schindel
<<<<-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=>>>>

Anyone out there know what's up?  I have two theories.
    1-- Burnout, with no one to replace the crucial organizers.  Been known
        to happen to many a disc activity.

    2-- Field space.  There is a decent amount of renovation going on in the
        area where it previously had been held.  Could be that the space
        disappeared, or is in awful shape.

For those of you who don't know, the Nat'l Frisbee Festival is a large
"happening" that has been taking place annually down on "the mall".  No,
not the shopper's heaven (and anti-consumer's hell) with its own zip code
in Menesso, the National Mall, in downtown Washington, D.C.  A large
_green_ place with nothing to buy, except some hotdogs and pretzels, and
of course the gift shops in each of the museums.  Anyhow, the Festival is
a great chance for absolutely clueless (yes, the _tourists_) people to
stumple upon our love for flying circular objects.  It also seems to
get some media and sponsor attention, and other general awareness to the
collective disc sports.  Bummer that it ain't gonna fly this year.

--Adam Lowe, Minister of Agriculture
  Brownian Motion Ultimate Frisbee
  (temporarily a Rhode Island Chowdahead)
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From: evh@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Troy Saville)
Subject: Pennsylvania State Championships
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:33:00 GMT



The Pennsylvania State Championships are being held
at Roland Park in Akron, PA on September 5 & 6, 1992.

At the current time, this is all the information that I have.
I'm pretty sure it is a multi-event type format
(freestyle, disc golf, mta, rtc. etc.) I do know that
the disc golf course has mach III baskets.

If i get anymore information, i'll post it.


-- 
T. Saville, PDGA #5399,  Golf Discs & Mini's bought,sold,traded|evh@genie.slhs
DELAWARE BREEZE & TREEZE PDGA TOURNAMENT, OCT. 1992, send email|    .udel.edu
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From: fontes@astro.psu.edu (Chris Fontes)
Subject: Re: Inside-Out v/s Roll
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Penn State University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:41:46 GMT

In article <BtCtM3.8p1@cs.psu.edu> fontes@astro.psu.edu (Chris Fontes) writes:
   -------
   Here's my $.02. (I'm assuming that "was forcing him flat" means trapping
   him sideline.) The spin argument is not valid here. The spin of the disc
   is in the SAME direction for each throw. If Y tries to catch the disc
   with their left hand, the disc will tend to spin into their body, 
   no matter which pass is thrown. However, the inside out is still
   easier to catch because the disc is curving INTO the path of the
   receiver while the roll curve moves away. These kinds of passes seem
   easier to catch from my experience. Anyone else?
     To continue the thread, there is another (high percentage?) pass
   that X can attempt. That is the high release backhand. This pass has
   come a long way in the past few years. It is ideal for breaking a
   force such as the sideline trap. If you proceed the throw with a
   decent forehand fake, the backhand over the defender's right shoulder
   is difficult to defend. If thrown properly, the disc is flat, rather than
   banked, and is an easy catch for the receiver.
   Adios,
   Chris "Goin ho in the American Southwest." Fontes
--------------------------
Whoops! I didn't quite understand the original post that I was
replying to. I thought that the thrower only had a backhand
throw (roll curve or heizer) and that the cutter was coming back
to the disc, not going away from it! (That's what I get for reading
so close to quitin time on Friday!!)
   My reply is now: Yes, the spin argument is correct. *BUT* I would
still throw the roll curve for one  reason:
If the marker were covering me fairly tightly, the inside out
is easier to block (and often tougher to throw).
   If I had both throws open, it's a toss up. The biggest factor for
me would be if I had just made a catch and was going to make a
quick release. Whichever side I caught the disc on would be the
side that I released the throw on.

Chris
From: Frank Revi <71551.2461@CompuServe.COM>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:27:51 GMT
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
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Subject: Physics

>>...to permit a person to continue his/her motion, as long as the 
>>momentum is not changed. 

Maybe what you are trying to say with this is that the acceleration (the rate of change in velocity, and a vector quantity, i.e. including a direction) is not allowed to change, because otherwise a receiver would HAVE TO maintain speed as well as direction, clearly not what we want.  Momentum has a mass factor which is not relevant, so it's better not to introduce it. 

However, strictly speaking the acceleration argument falls apart as well, and when you're talking physics you're speaking strictly.  Acceleration must change as you come to a stop, i.e. the velocity curve must meet zero smoothly over some time interval even if you're landing face first javelin-style, and you have instant gray area unless you try to put limits on that interval.  There is also the question of what exactly is accelerating or having momentum.  Just using the player's center of mass will lead t

o problems given the independent control of limbs;  the human body moves relative to its cm depending on the position of the limbs.  One of the things that makes Michael Jordan exciting is what he does far away from his cm, and it's not clear that using the center of mass will lead to the results that are intended.

The bottom line is that the language and conventions used to describe the physics of human motion are beyond the detail appropriate for the rules.  Physics terms would wind up being used in a fuzzy sense, which is counterproductive to their use in the first place.   Otherwise you'd have to replace "momentum is not changed" with "... the magnitude of acceleration is not increased and the direction of motion of the player's center of mass remains constant until a pivot foot is established..." just for starte

rs.

Plus, things could get really strange really quick:  can't you just see someone yelling "NO WAY, man! the right-hand-rule totally shows that the sum of my angular momentum vector (about my center of mass) crossed into the horizontal component of velocity (also at cm), with the velocity vector of the disc in my hand at the instant of release, entitles me to that space! the foul is on YOU!"  I guess I'd like to see arguments *degenerate* into two players fighting over equations, though.

I think a more appropriate paradigm for the language of the rules is standard grammar, definitions of common words, and basic logic.  Concepts rooted in physics will of course appear, but in the context of basic English.  Everything should be reducible to definitions available in the dictionary along with what is expressed, implied, and not implied by specific sentence structure, using standard rules of grammar and logic.  Then *all* we have to do is be consistent and cover everything, and we'll be set.


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From: jims@bnr.ca (Jim Spallin)
Subject: Re: Excellence in disc sport
Reply-To: 1596118@x400gate.bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:23:44 GMT

In article <713808447.F00001@blkcat.UUCP>, Eric.Simon@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Simon) writes:
|> JP>DDC title, followed up by winning the SCF event at the 1982 WFC,
|> 
|> I was at the 1982 WFC (1982 Mid Atlantic All Star for the Ultimate MA
|> vs NE game) and was watching the finals of the SCF (self-caught flight)

I've never seen this before but then again I've only been exposed
to disc-a-mania for the past year.  How is the distance measured, 
does the disc have to come back to you or do you go after it, etc.???

-- 
Jim Spallin, (613)765-2581
Opinions expressed are my own, although others are free to share them
From: Eric Simon <70540.1522@CompuServe.COM>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:35:12 GMT
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Subject: masters play in the fall

Masters Division info - 

I don't know when you must turn 30, but my guess is that the cutoff
is the first day of Nationals (Nov 12).  (Age 28 for women)

You must keep your Reg Coord informed, so they know how to plan for
Regionals.

There are too few teams to have Masters tourneys, but, in the M.A.
at least, Masters teams have played in other tourneys (at least the
Philly team has).  Of course, in those tourneys, you can have anyone
you want on your teams.

(This was in response to Nelson Steele's post)

--  Eric

Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman)
Subject: Madison Results?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:41:36 GMT

Does anyone know the results of the Madison Tournament?
Thanks

Will Heyman		UVA Applied Math	wsh8z@virginia.edu
DoD# 638		CB450T Hawk '82		$5 Ultimate
From: gavina@otc.otca.oz.au (Gavin_Abfalter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: AFL News Tues. - Fri. 28-31/7/1992
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:32:12 GMT

>In article <2892@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
>|> u906789@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner) writes:
>|> : marino@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>|> : >   amount of time will still be played because time is to be added on du
ring the
>|> : >   game when the ball goes out of bounds. This will stop the defending t
eam con-
>|> : >   tinuously hitting the ball over the boundary line.
>|> : 

>Come on guys, don't slang off about new rules just because they are new.

>Actually, when you think about it, it might not be such a bad rule.

> [Lot's of stuff about the new out of bounds rule deleted]

I will remain very dubious as to if this will work, as it is meant to do, as a
deterrent to holding the game up in the dying minutes of a close game, or
basically whenever defenders are looking for a safe way of wasting time.

I mean this is the same reason that the forced out of bounds on purpose rule
was introduced. The only problem with that is that defenders now only have to
half make it look like they are making half an attempt to keep it in. And that
umpires are very reluctant to award the penalty anyway.

My point is that defenders will now just find something new, probably by just
bottling up the game by bringing the ball to ground and holding it up in the
same area making a very stagnant game with lot's of ball up's in the same area.
This one's been used since the year dot and I think we'll just see it more
often now.

Then in another 5 years time a new rule will be introduced to combat the
bottling up of games and ..................

Gav. Abfalter
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From: nicholso@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Melvin H. Nicholson YBH)
Subject: Re: AFL Results for round 22
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:44:30 GMT

psgjf@gamgee.cc.flinders.edu.au (<G.J.Fraser>) writes:
>marino@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>>
>> The top seven positions on the ladder are:
>>        Footscray    20   56   126.5  *****  see below *****
>>
>> Even though things are not looking too good for the Saints, they can still
>>get into the finals. If St.Kilda wins their last game, then they can get back
>>into the six if Hawthorn loses, or if Carlton or Collingwood lose their last
>                                       ----------------------
>If Footscray lose both their matches they could drop out also!

One of those matches is against Brisbane.  Concentrate on a Wood/Eagle
sweep of Carlton or Melbourne beating the Hawks.  Brisbane will need to
work to get within around 30 points of the Doggies, nevertheless win.

Mel
From: gavina@otc.otca.oz.au (Gavin_Abfalter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Stupidest Hair
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:31:12 GMT

>In article <13978@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au>, s891932@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Chris 
Warr) writes:
>|> As well as ugly we have hair styles.
>|> 
>|> The Gold medal goes to ... Shane Watson, just what is that funny white bit
>|> supposed to be?

>Awww come on, now Zanotti just has to get stupidest hair with his
>pigtail.

What about Mil Hanna and Rohan Smith !@!@!!!@#$#  :-)

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

Gav. Abfalter
From: gavina@otc.otca.oz.au (Gavin_Abfalter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Strirring again
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:00:38 GMT


Just trying to stir up the interstate melting pot of verbal abuse yet again
(seeing's the Collingwood vs. the rest has died off of late).

With the demise of the the Foster's brewing group over the last few months
taking along with it CUB, and the strong talk yet of a takeover from SA Brew.
I wonder what the next season's major sponsorship deal holds ................

I can just see it now  :

"Welcome to the 1993 South Australian Brewing Company AFL Season"

or 

"Welcome to the 1993 South Australian Brewing Company AFL Grand Final"

MMMmmmmmmmm

I have to admit it does have a nice ring to it doesn't it.

I mean if we can't yet beat them on the field (well in the AFL anyway, the
State Game proved otherwise) then why not in some other way!!!!!!!!!!

:-)

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From: rxkand@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: goodbye saints, hello hawks?
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:25:07 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones) writes:
>	throughout the year, allthough it's a pity for guys like
>	Winmar, Kickett and McAdam, who are all beautiful players.
>	Also Harvey seems on the verge of greatness.


>	tom 




       I agree with you Tom your team analysis is very good but
       don`t put dale kickett in the same league with Winmar McAdam or harvery
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From: rxkgre@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Geof Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Sheldon can't coach!
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:43:09 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<* TRUE AND CORRECT INDEED !!!! *>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

* aND i WOULDN'T CARE if IT rAINS aLL nIGHT

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From: dos105@rsphy2.anu.edu.au (Darren O'Shaughnessy)
Subject: Unluckiest non-finalists (OR: We still love you, Saints)
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.australian
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:47:44 GMT

    Well, it looks like the Saints are going to dip out of the finals.
Damn, I was just getting used to the idea of the Moorabbin - sorry,
Waverley - boys being regular finalists.

    I have a question for you trivia-buffs out there: has any other team
missed out on the finals after winning 14 games and amassing a percentage
of 120+?? There is one more finalist now than in the "Five" days, but three
more teams, so 40% of the teams now qualify compared to 42% previously (OK,
I'm ignoring the couple of years of 5/14). It used to be, as far as my
litost-ridden* brain can tell, that 52 or at most 54 premiership points
would guarantee a place.

    And since it is often St. Kilda supporters who have the brains and the
organization required to post facts about footy, I expect many wailings
about how they should make a special exemption this year and run a final
seven (I could design a playoff system! Really I could!)

        Signed,
                Pat Rourke (you may not have heard of me)

        * P.S. LITOST is defined in a chapter or so by Milan Kundera in
"The Book of Laughter and Forgetting" (I think it's that one) - read it!
From: marino@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: AFL Fixture for last three rounds
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:39:53 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

                             1992 AFL SEASON
                             ===============

This is the draw for the last three rounds of the 1992 AFL season.

Home teams are listed FIRST. All teams play their home ground unles otherwise
anotated. The abbreviations used are:

  MCG = Melbourne Cricket Ground
  WP  = Waverley Park
  PP  = Princes Park

All games start at 2:00 p.m. AEST (GMT +10) unless otherwise stated. All times
quoted are Australia Eastern Standard Time. All dates quoted are in the DD/MM
format (e.g 7 April is 7/4).


       ROUND 22
       --------
Fri, 14/8, West Coast v. Fitzroy (8:30 pm)

Sat, 15/8, Richmond v. Hawthorn
           Carlton v. Footscray
           Geelong v. Brisbane

Sun, 16/8, North Melbourne v. Collingwood
           Sydney v. Melbourne
           Adelaide v. St. Kilda (5:30 pm)

BYE: Essendon


       ROUND 23
       --------
Sat, 22/8, Carlton v. Collingwood (WP)
           Essendon v. North Melbourne
           Fitzroy v. Richmond
           Brisbane v. Sydney (7:30 pm)

Sun, 23/8, Melbourne v. St. Kilda
           Footscray v. West Coast
           Adelaide v. Geelong

BYE: Hawthorn


       ROUND 24
       --------
Fri, 28/8, Sydney v. Richmond (7:30 pm)

Sat, 29/8, Geelong v. Essendon (WP)
           Melbourne v. Hawthorn
           Fitzroy v. North Melbourne
           Collingwood v. Adelaide
           Footscray v. Brisbane

Sun, 30/8, West Coast v. Carlton

BYE: St. Kilda


       FINALS
       ------
Sat, 5/9 and Sun, 6/9, First and Second Elimination Finals, and
                           Qualifying Final

Sat, 12/9 and Sun, 13/9, First and Second Semi Finals

Sat, 19/9, Preliminary Final

Sat, 26/9, Grand Final


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