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From: apn@Apple.COM (Alex Novickis)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: realtime kernel for 8051
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:07:53 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <3JUL199214244641@pine.circa.ufl.edu> rgc@pine.circa.ufl.edu (CAROVANO) writes:
>In article <1992Jun29.041154.874@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, jonj@exicom.oz.au ( Jonboy Jenkins ) writes...
>>Can anybody tell me the whereabouts, public domain
>>or commercial, of a reasonable real time kernel for
>>an 8051. The basic requirements are as follows:
>> 
>>1: time slicing
>>2: preemptive capability with scheduling according to priority
>>3: may use external memory to store processor state for task swaps
>> 
>
>Jon,
>
>I know of just the thing.
>
>Franklin Software has a real-time operating system called RTX-51.  I am 
>copying the following from their own flyer.
>
>The RTX-51 from Franklin Provides:
>- Kernal and 2 tasks in less than 800 bytes
>- Pre-emptive & round robin task scheduling
>- Intertask communication and resource management
>- I/O support for all 8051 derivatives
>- Full timer services
>- Compatible with Franklin's C-51, Intel pl/M and OMF-51 formats
>
>Anyway, I have never used this package because we have never needed multi-
>tasking (although we have several levels of interrupt handlers in our system)
>We use the Archimedes C cross-development system here.  I have no idea how
>well the Franklin system works, but I've read many good things.
>
>The address for more info is:
>
>Frankline Software, Inc.
>888 Saratoga Avenue, Suite 2
>San Jose, CA, USA 95129
>Telephone: (408) 296-8051
>FAX: (408) 296-8061
>
>Good luck and keep me posted.
>
>Ron Carovano
>FACET (Florida Anesthesia Computer and Engineering Team)
>rgc@pine.circa.ufl.edu

I've had real problems with franklin, and I would, If I had to do it over
gone with some other vendor.


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Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: rissel@iscp.bellcore.com (Ron Rissel)
Subject: OCCAM compiler
Reply-To: user@machine.domain
Organization: UC Berkeley XRN Design Team
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:48:13 GMT

Anyone know where to purchase/find an OCCAM compiler and what operating system it
runs on?
What other OCCAM compilers are out there in the world today?

Ron
From: holt@sdd.hp.com (Holt Mebane)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: Re: realtime kernel for 8051
Date: 24 Jul 1992 17:33:19 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdl134.sdd.hp.com

>
>I did manage to get my project done, but, I'm not impressed with their
>attitude nor their product.
>
>


I will certainly echo the attitude part - they've really got one. I called once
to report a bug I had boiled down to about 8 lines of code (including the
function declaration, etc) I was informed that "they don't have time to teach
me how to write C". I replied that I DO know C, could they at least look at 
the source. They replied "we don't have time to look at reams of source code".
I told them it was only a few lines of code, and they begrudgingly looked at
it. To their credit, I had a new revision of the compiler in about 4 days.
But, I thought "what an asshole on the phone - I'm gonna write to the
president of the company - but then I found out that WAS the president!!!
What an idiot. I wonder if he knows the power of the Internet?? I wonder if he
knows that when he insults someone at Apple or HP, that he's blowing off
COUNTLESS sales??? Oh well, that's how little companies stay little.

-- 
Holt Mebane, N4HR
Hewlett-Packard
San Diego Technical Graphics Division
619-592-4882
From: kr@jet.uk (Kenneth Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
Subject: TMS320C40 support software
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:02:38 GMT
Organization: Joint European Torus

We're thinking of using the TEXAS TMS320C40 and are wondering what
there is available in the way of software development tools. TEXAS
provide some but, if anyone can give me pointers to others, I'd very
much appreciate it.

In particular, we're looking for the following:

Cross support software residing on SUNs or PCs.

Compiler, linker, loader and debugging tools for VME boards using
either a single TMS320C40 or an array of 'C40's. I've heard of
"parallel" compilers but don't know anything at all about them (yet).

Support libraries.

A possible "operating system" although I believe that we will not have
much use for an OS but may use just basic support routines instead.

All comments would be most welcome.

Many thanks

Ken



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  kr@jet.uk
- Disclaimer: Please note that the above is a personal view and should not 
  be construed as an official comment from the JET project.
Newsgroups: comp.realtime
From: gratclif@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gregory W Ratcliff)
Subject: Re: free realtime os
Keywords:  free os realtime multi tasking
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 19:55:57 GMT

A really nice FREE rt os, if you could call it that is
uCOS written up in Embedded Systems May and June, 1992.
Particularly well suited for low performance cpus.
The source is there, and the os has about a dozen services,
but it looks great to me.

I've been playing around with it  a bit, and still haven't got
everything re-combooberated for Micro$oft C, but its coming 
along.

Greg....... Still looking for others interested in uCOS  ;)



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From: hougland@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Kriss A. Hougland)
Subject: Re: OCCAM compiler
Followup-To: comp.realtime
Reply-To: hougland@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Kriss A. Hougland)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:16:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.184813.26194@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> user@machine.domain writes:
>Anyone know where to purchase/find an OCCAM compiler and what operating system it
>runs on?
>What other OCCAM compilers are out there in the world today?
>
>Ron

Try parallel machine dealers.  OCCAM (from what I know) deals with MPPs
like the Inmos T800 transputers.

--
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hougland@enuxha.eas.asu.edu         -- old Vulcan probverb
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Here are 4 four letter words people don't use "hope, give, kind, and help" --me
From: cliff@cs.arizona.edu (Cliff Hathaway)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: access to shared telecom closets
Keywords: dept vs. central management
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:12:04 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

[ my first post apparently didn't make it -- apologies, etc. if this is a
duplicate posting ]


I'd like to hear how other institutions are handling access to shared
telecommunications facilities - telephone closets, mechanical rooms, etc.

Here's a brief overview of our situation:

We have a mixture of centralized and local control and responsibility for
network and telecommunications facilities.

There is a University Telecommunications entity, which is responsible for
installing and maintaining the campus FDDI backbone, and connections to
the outside world through T1 lines, and virtually all of the campus voice
communications.  They will also, for a price, install and maintain data 
subnets that are connected to the campus backbone; typically these subnets
consist of the computers owned by a single academic department.

Each subnet is required to have a manager before it is allowed to connect
to the campus backbone.  These managers are typically fulltime University
employees with some knowledge of networking principles and computing, who
agree to be the contact person and administrator for the subnet, along with
their other duties.

As with most institutions that have been around for more than 10 years or so,
not all buildings have separate telecommunications closets.  Frequently, 
the point of demarcation between the subnets and the centralized backbone is
located in a mechanical room which contains air handling equipment, enclosed
480 -> 208 volt transformers and major electrical switches.  However, there
are few, if any, hazards present for a prudent individual.

A couple years ago the University undertook a major upgrade to the cable 
plant, and each college is assessed an annual charge to recoup the cost
of this undertaking.  In exchange, departments are free to use the building
telecommunications wiring for local networking, if they desire.  The rub here
is that the termination points for this wiring is usually in a phone closet
or mechanical room which the central entity is loathe to grant access to,
citing possible personal injury or tampering with wiring and equipment.

Are there other educational institutions out there where the departments
do their own installation and maintenance of telecommunications facilities?
Where and how do you make connections with the central service provider, if
there is one?


    Cliff Hathaway
    Dept. of Computer Science (602)621-4291
    University of Arizona     cliff@cs.arizona.edu 	        (internet) 
    Tucson, Ariz. 85721	      {cmcl2,noao,uunet}!arizona!cliff	(uucp)





-- 

    Cliff Hathaway
    Dept. of Computer Science (602)621-4291
    University of Arizona     cliff@cs.arizona.edu 	        (internet) 
    Tucson, Ariz. 85721	      {cmcl2,noao,uunet}!arizona!cliff	(uucp)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Kennedy)
Subject: Re: access to shared telecom closets
Keywords: dept vs. central management
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:41:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.231204.6384@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> Cliff writes:

-->  I'd like to hear how other institutions are handling access to shared
-->  telecommunications facilities - telephone closets, mechanical rooms, etc.

  We just got done fighting for the same thing here, and came to a bearable
conclusion in the matter.

  Basicly, we wanted access to the router/repeater/concentrators, which
telecommunications wanted to put in the wiring closets.  This was really
undesirable as we could not have touched our own equipment, with extra rubs
because we had personally paid for it.  (:  For a number of reasons, it
was unacceptable to leave things in the closet, not the least of which was
the fact that even if something needed to be done NOW, we would have been
required to fill out a form and wait for up to two weeks.  NOT.

  The compromise we made was to have all the punch-blocks left in the closet,
but have the other equipment on our side of the wall (our machine room is right on the other side of the wall from the electrical room).  We still have to call telecommunications to get extra network connections punched, but all they
have of our networking equipment is the fiber->AUI box, which runs straight
from there into our equipment.

  Now that we've got all the polite people's concerns taken care of, that only
leaves telecommunications to deal with the really IRATE faculty.  (:{

  We have a whole bunch of 50-pin cables running through the wall from our
equipment to a punchblock, which is then just punched across to another, but
we're happy.  The only people we can really mess up are ourselves for most
things, but more often than not we can stop somebody else from messing us up.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Subject: Re: Survey on user privacy
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:01:42 GMT
Organization: The Puzzle Palace, UKentucky

In article <1992Jul23.215931.13522@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu writes:
>
>Today we have a very interesting and sensitive situation arise -- a user  
>passed away and now the user's parents would like access to the user's  
>account.
>
>This is a situation that I have not had to deal with before.  There are some  
>ethical considerations that need to be understood.  I am wondering how other  
>Administrators/Managers have handled similar situations.
>

One of my coworkers recently discovered that one of this University's 
systems still had an active userid for her father, who passed away in
1988 (OK, so the bookkeeping isn't quite up to par).

She will be approaching this situation from the legal standpoint of
'executor's privilege'.  In most states, the Executor of an estate
has, by law, access to ALL portions of the estate.  I would strongly
suspect that this access would extend to online resources of the estate.

After all, what if the deceased was working on a patent, book, or article
that could have monetary value to the estate?  In such an example, the
executor would have both the need AND the legal obligation to investigate
those resources.

Check with your local counsel; your mileage may vary.  

--Wes

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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Survey on user privacy
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:49:22 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <1992Jul23.215931.13522@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:

>Today we have a very interesting and sensitive situation arise -- a user  
>passed away and now the user's parents would like access to the user's  
>account.

>4) The current policy of Academic Computing is that the only person who can  
>*legally* access an account is the one who signed the account application,  
>which means that the parents cannot be given access.  In essence I agree, but  
I don't think that will hold up. Look at it the other way. What gives
the computer center the right to decide, for the family, that they
cannot have access to this particular subset of the deceased person's
possesions? I think that is for the executor of the will to decide. 
   Mind you, I am not sure that it *should* be this way. But unless
something happens, I would imagine that computer files fall under the
same laws that apply to other intellectual property.
  I would give the tape to the family, perhaps through an
administration contact, who could perhaps tactfully comment on the 
nature of computer communications....

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Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: scoile@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Steve Coile)
Subject: Re: Survey on user privacy
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:28:10 GMT

In another article, Elizabeth Schwartz writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.215931.13522@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
>
>>Today we have a very interesting and sensitive situation arise -- a user  
>>passed away and now the user's parents would like access to the user's  
>>account.
>
>>4) The current policy of Academic Computing is that the only person who can  
>>*legally* access an account is the one who signed the account application,  
>>which means that the parents cannot be given access.

>In essence I agree, but I don't think that will hold up. Look at it the
>other way. What gives the computer center the right to decide, for the
>family, that they cannot have access to this particular subset of the
>deceased person's possesions?  I think that is for the executor of the will
>to decide. 
>[...]

I disagree.  The account, consisting of the files (not necessarily the
contents), and the resources upon which they are located are property of the
site, not the account holder.  The site still has the right to deny access
to anyone but the account holder.  In my opinion, in all cases where the
designated holder of an account is unable to take responsibility for the
account, system management implicitly assumes ownership[1].

I see three possible solutions:

A)  Waive the restriction and allow the relatives access to the system.
    Perhaps additional restrictions could be placed on the account (limiting
    privileges, resources, time, et cetera).

B)  Transfer ownership of the account to the relatives.  Because the relatives
    may not be part of the university or college, a fee of some sort might
    be imposed.

C)  As suggested by the previous poster, provide the contents to the family,
    either through transferable media (floppy disk, tape, or whathaveyou),
    or through hard-copy.

[1] (footnote from above) Note that "ownership" in the context used in this
    posting denotes the rights and responsibilities of the account holder,
    as established by the system's administration, and not ownership in the
    legal sense.

 Steve "Stevers!" Coile                    scoile@gmuvax[{.BITNET|[2].gmu.edu}]
   disclaimer:  opinions are my own and not necessarily those of my employer.
            "Maturity is knowing when and where to act immature"
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu (Leo D. Geoffrion)
Subject: Re: Survey on user privacy
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:46:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.215931.13522@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu writes:
>
>
>Today we have a very interesting and sensitive situation arise -- a user  
>passed away and now the user's parents would like access to the user's  
>account.
>

In general, I find it very helpful to draw analogies to conventional
technologies when dealing with computing situations where there is no
standard procedure.  If nothing else, this analogy helps lawyers and
administrators better understand the issues.

Change the details just a little bit... Suppose that you have a file
of papers belonging to the deceased person.  What is your
responsibility in that case?

If I'm not mistaken, someone is designated as the executor of the
person's estate.  Most likely this will be the parents, unless the
student was married or had otherwise designated someone else. The
executor has the legal right/responsibility to retrieve all personal
items and settle all debts.  Collecting papers stored in various
locations, items loaned to others, charge cards, bank papers, ... are
all part of an executor's traditional work.  Within that context,
I'd be inclined to turn over any files to the executor if that
person so requests.



-- 
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EMAIL: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu   VOICE: (518) 584-5000 Ext. 2919

Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: john@iastate.edu (John Hascall)
Subject: Re: Survey on user privacy
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:58:19 GMT

morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) writes:
}sears@tree.egr.uh.edu writes:
}>Today we have a very interesting and sensitive situation arise -- a user  
}>passed away and now the user's parents would like access to the user's  
}>account.
}She will be approaching this situation from the legal standpoint of
}'executor's privilege'.  In most states, the Executor of an estate
}has, by law, access to ALL portions of the estate.  I would strongly
}suspect that this access would extend to online resources of the estate.
}After all, what if the deceased was working on a patent, book, or article
}that could have monetary value to the estate?  In such an example, the
}executor would have both the need AND the legal obligation to investigate
}those resources.

I think there are two questions here, because the original poster didn't
saw what "access" was:

	access == use of the account

	access == (a copy of) the files in the account

I doubt my heirs would have any claims on the use of my account (and rightly
so).  If it was something I paid, say, an annual fee for (at a public access
site or some such), then perhaps they would (or a refund).

As to whether they have claim to any of the files in my account is a stickier
question.  It would not be unreasonable for an employer to claim that anything
in my account was their property not mine (they bought it with my salary),
hence my heirs would have no claim.  Now, if my employer graciously allowed
me storage of personal files, then I would expect that my heirs would have a
claim on those.  But they would have no more claim on the Ultrix source here,
for example, then they would have on the desk in my office.  The question of
the who/how/when of this division of property would be more difficult than the
physical property in the office, I would think (it's pretty clear who owns the
desk, the boombox, etc., but what the devil is "xyz.17jun92"?).

John
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Survey on user privacy
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:01:27 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson



 I don't see much of a problem here - if these were paper records or files
which the individual owned wouldn't they be passed on to the next of kin?


				gln
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,misc.legal
From: fitz@wang.com (Tom Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: Summary (long): Policy survey on deceased user
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:27:49 GMT
Keywords: deceased, privacy, policy

sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:

[ Concerning access to the computer account of a student who has died ]

> 4) The current policy of Academic Computing is that the only person who can  
> *legally* access an account is the one who signed the account application,  
> which means that the parents cannot be given access.  In essence I agree, but
> was that a decision that would legally hold water??  

As far as I know, no.  By law the executor becomes, to some extent, the
person who signed the account application.  Their signature is as good as
the deceased's ever was, and can draw on the deceased's money, and settle
contracts under the deceased's name.  I believe the executor (as the
persona of the student's estate) is also legally bound by commitments the
student had, so if the student signed a nondisclosure agreement, the
executor would be bound by it.  Withholding the student's property from the
executor is legally equivalent to withholding them from the student himself
if he hadn't died - it would be legal (and ethical) only if there's some
dispute about who the files actually belonged to.

I'm pretty sure this is the case if the probate is handled by a Muniment of
Title, which is often used for simple probate cases (and I can't believe a
student's would be very complicated).  It may apply, with more
restrictions, to other kinds of probate.

This is crossposted to misc.legal - I'm sure people there will be delighted
to correct me if I'm wrong.

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