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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 12 Oct 1992 03:44:34 CDT
From: Syed Aatif Ali <U36190@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Omar Sharif

It was Fun......... But most the jokes were old.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: yasin@laser.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yasin)
Subject: Re: Omer Sharif Show... (WARNING!  WARNING!) a pathetic program
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:10:20 GMT
Keywords: Hydrocarbons.

In article <1bjt68INNlfq@coral.bucknell.edu> zabdi@bucknell.edu (Zakir Abdi) writes:
>
>	Hello Friends,
>
>	Some of you might know that there was a Omer Sharif show on 11th of 
>	this month in New Jersy (East Brunswick). 
.......saving bandwidth ..... stuff deleted........
>	Jahangir were on the stage for 1/2 hrs.  Rest of the artists were no good.

>	My request to every one on the net. 

	EXACTLY SAME THING HAPPENED IN BOSTON. WE PAKISTANI'S IN OUR
	NOSTALGIA PAY THIS HIGH TICKETS FOR THESE STUPID OLD .....

	I HAD PUT DOWN A WARNING BEFORE, SO AGAIN PLEASE SAVE YOUR
	BUCKS. BUT IF YOU WANT TO PAY $25 FOR JUST THREE SONGS FROM
	BENJAMIN SISTERS AND A SONG "HAWA HAWA" OF JEHANGIR PLUS
	LOT OF BORING JOKES PLEASE GO AHEAD. 

>	"Never ever go to a show which is organized by a Pakistani."   
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 	WE CAN IMPROVE THEIR STANDARDS IF WE GO ONLY TO DECENT SHOWS.
	I ENJOYED AN EVENING WITH NUSRAT FATEH ALI KHAN QAWAL OVER
	100 TIMES (ONE CAN SEE THE ENJOYMENT IN THE CROWD ON
	"MAST MAST").
	THE EVENING WITH HABIB WALI MOHAMMED WAS NOT BAD TOO, BUT
	IT IS THESE STAGE ARTISTS WHO THINK THAT THEY HAVE "FANS"
	HERE, NOT REALIZING THAT THE AUDIENCE IS A FAN OF PAKISTANI
	SHOW AND NOT THE COMEDIAN.
>
>	Khuda Hafiz
>
>	Zakir Abdi
>	

Yasin.
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: article numbers (was Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:01:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.125349.5766@gw.wmich.edu> x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.090608@IASTATE.EDU>, jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>> 
>>How do you account for the fact that it is legal for muslim men (under certain
>> conditions ofcourse ;) to marry upto 4 women? Not a dirty act then eh ;)
>
>Dear Brother Javed,
>	Please read item 20576.
>Akhtar Waqas.

Are these article numbers the same at all sites ? I am under the impression
that they are different but not sure. Could someone throw more light on this.


regards,
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore '92??!!!! Was Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:42:00 GMT

azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:

>	   Salman [dsqa-jna '92 :-)] Azhar


Though normally a nihilistic anarchist, and lately just plain apathetic,
had I registered on time, I would have written in this team.

Azhar/Ali in '96.
[Of course, if you two aren't both ABCDs, we'll have to work on
 changing some of the rules regarding domestic content.]

Need a Dogar for a campaign manager? How about as a bullying Chief of Staff?
[Sunnunu was a wuss.]

We'll need a party name. Something with a Subcontinental twist.
The ABCD Party? Jhatka? Dhamaka? (Sound like Bhangra bands.)
The Replacements? The Gin Blossoms? (Oops. These are alternative bands.)
Wait! That's it! THE ALTERNATIVE PARTY!

-hd
"It's a dead man's party."

P.S.
For those interested in a serious discussion of Bush and Clinton
and their respective positions on issues of specific interest to
U.S. Muslims, please see the latest issue of Islamic Horizons
[the ISNA magazine]. For those of you who have not succumb to
apathy [or nihilistic anarchy :-)] this issue also contains 
numerous articles on general involvement in the political process
in the United States.

For those interested in working on the Azhar/Ali campaign in 1996,
please [wait to see if I am hired as campaign manager and then]
contact me.
From: khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Following Story is a Qeyaamat kee Nishaanee
Date: 9 Oct 1992 00:13:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: king.ces.cwru.edu


		Woman cuts ex-husbands penis
		============================

		Voice of Asia / Houston, Monday, September 28, 1992


	A Bangladeshi woman was arrested after she cut off the penis of
her former husband and forced him to hold it up before her laughing friends,
police said on Tuesday.
	They said Sharmin Begum, divorced six months ago, called her 
ex-husband Abdul Motaleb into her home on Sunday night, saying that their
two-year-old son was ill.
	"But as he entered the living room the lights went off and 
some people held Motaleb on the floor. Begum then took out a razor
blade and sliced his penis off," one police officer told reporters.
	"Then she forced the screaming man to hold up the severed penis
in front of laughing friends." Police rushed Motaleb, a businessman, 
to hospital and detained Begum for questioning.


Mansoor Khan
Cleveland, Ohio
From: mallya@octel.com (Satyanarayana Mallya)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: I'M AN ASIAN MODEL IN A WHITE WORLD(TRUE STORY)
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:52:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: octel.1992Oct8.165226.28596
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.

In article <7OCT199208230533@vxcrna.cern.ch> mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:
>
>	Before I can actually come to the point, just wondering
>	whst Quran has to say about modeling?
>

	I am really intrigued by these questions. Do Muslims(well most of them)
have to look up to quran or a mullah for advice on every matter. I am sure most
other religions do not have this extra baggage. Can any of the mullahs on the
net tell me if approbation is required from quran for every aspect of life? 

	Personally, I would love to control my life to a large extent. I expect
spiritual explanation only on issues that I or my friends cannot comprehend. 
Imagine if I have to look up my holy book when I get a flame across the net?
Tough life? huh! Frankly I think religion will then equate to another form of
government. And we all hate laws that control our personal life. Well mebbee
I must speak for myself.


>Mirza Ilyas
>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: almasood@denver.cba.du.edu (Aali Masood)
Subject: Need Help for visit to Mexico
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 20:18:59 GMT

A few days ago a couple of gentlemen posted an article  
about their visit to Mexico for their visa status change.

I have to go to Mexico for a visa extension and don't know  
really anything about how to get around.

I would really appreciate if those persons or anyone who  
has any knowkedge to please guide me.
Some of the questions I need answers to are as follows:

1. which border is best suited to cross?
2. Which hotel can I go and stay?
3. Approx. how much money would I need?

My e-mail Address is: almasood@denver.cba.du.edu

Thanx. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: RAG - a special issue on PRE-MARITAL SEX in Pakistan
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 07:08:46 GMT

THE RAG _ a special edition on PRE_MARITAL SEX in Pakistan.

*************************************************************************

	Due to subject matter in this article, readers below
	17 years of age or above 40 or young men and women
	with an unusually high level of hormones please skip
	the rest of this article.








HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 
all that laughter leaves me breathless.

 Pakistan is an islamic country and forbids pre-marital sex. So from that we
logically guess that there ain't no sex before marriage. Sorry to disappoint
you folks.

And remember if you seem upset or wrought with anger, send me a nasty e-mail.

Ofcourse now that you have hit the TAB key, i will have a long list of 
e-mail addresses in my account.

sahibzada rafay khan[]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: RAG - a special issue on PRE-MARITAL SEX in Pakistan
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:35:53 GMT

In article <92288.113951U43587@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U43587@uicvm.uic.edu> DA PAKS FOR A BETTER PAK writes:
|> 
|> What is with these fools.  If you've got nothing else to do get off the net
|> and spare us your trash.
|> We have nothing else to say about this dope who displays typical pak behavior
|> except that it his type has ruined and is ruining pakistan today and the pak
|> image abroad.

Typical pak behavior ???????????? so what.
And how can typical Pak behavior ruin pakistan and if so which typical behavior
should we follow. Typical arab, christian , iranian etc........


|> Trash like you you be ridded of very quickly. As Mohammed Ali Jinnah would
|> say if he were alive to see pak today and the pak race "GO ROT!".

Garbage like you, with this self righteous behavior and attitude of " see no
evil and hear no evil" is destroying pakistan.
To say all pakistani's are pure and sex-free is ridiculous(sp). What your
definition of a better pakistan may not other people's definition.
Like all the garbage i see on the streets you are only concerned with sexual
and not ethical ones. 

sahibzada rafay khan[ there is more to a women than .................]
From: ka@wan.inf.rl.ac.uk (Khalid Akram)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Kashmir video
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:43:12 GMT
Reply-To: ka@wan.inf.rl.ac.uk
Organization: SERC Rutherford Appleton Laboratories

Hi,

last year I heard rumours that an underground video was being distributed
in the UK about KASHMIR. Interviews of Kashmiris who had undergone
atrocities from the indian army were included. Does anyone know where I
can get a copy?
Thanks.
Khalid

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From: x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Jesus: MightyProphet NotSonOfGod
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:00:09 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

ASalam-O-Alaikum,

	Dear Brothers,

		I would like to inform you about a latest research going on in
the field of biology called CLONNING.  What is Clonning?  Well, it a process by
which a baby is born without any male intervention.  How?  What they do is:

	1.	Take OVA out of FEMALE body.
	2.	Take CELL out of FEMALE body.
	3.	Take the NUCLEIUS out of the CELL.
	4.	TURN ON all the GENES and place it on the OVA.
	5.	It starts dividing into cells.
	6.	Ultimately develops into a FETUS.

	This research is done by Americans (Christians) and not Muslims.  Now
the Christian beleive that respected Jesus (peace be on him) is son of God 
because he (pboh) did not had any human father and God must be his father.  The
above description clearly tells how is it possible to have a baby without a
father (male.)  This research is currently limited to animals.  But the point 
is that it is a complete description of the process.  Allah (God) is all 
knowing and all wise and if a human can give a description of some biological 
fact today don't you think that Allah (God) knew it for ever and had the power 
to do it.

	It is my sincere effort to inform my dear brothers, I don't mean to
offend anybody.  Those who think that respected Jesus (peace be upon him) is
son of God are far apart from the truth.  May Allah (God) give guidence to
those who seek it.

Wa-Salam-O-Alaikum.

Your's  Brother,


Akhtar Waqas.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: HELP! ARABIC,ISLAMIC SOFTWARE
From: <AXS158@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:18:04 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

AS-SALAM ALEIKUM,
 PLEASE, IF ANYONE KNOW OF INTERNET SITES, BBS, FILES ECT.. THAT CAN HELP ME
IN LEARNING ARABIC AND ALSO SOFTWARE ON AL-QUR'AN, PLEASE REPLY.
SHUKRAN,
MA-SALAMA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ysm@engin.umich.edu (Yawar Shahzad Murad)
Subject: Help needed
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:32:04 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

If anybody knows the e-mail or postal address of the following people or
can find out, please let me know:

Syed A. Maroof at Rensselaer Polytechnic Imstitute
Faisal M. Mir at University of Rochester
Khurram Zaka Malik at University of Rochester

Thanks for your help!

						Yawar

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: murthy@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy)
Subject: Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:55:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.180826.433@sarah.albany.edu> ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:
>
>I still don't understand the correlation between the sexual practices of
>pigs and the consumption of pigs by humans.  Moral judgments are something
>we impose on ourselves (and some unsavory characters impose them on others)
>but what do animals have to do with it?  The question of health and their
>benefits or harm to humans is the factor which should be weighed in 
>consumption.  If one believes (as I do) that the benefit of eating pigs
>outweighs the costs to the body, one should avoid eating pig flesh.
>Their sexual habits however don't figure into it.
>
>Yasmin

To add a different twist, the evidence is overwhelming
now, I am told, that Pigs are actually quite
intelligent animals. I wish I had a recent Wall Street
Journal article that talked about Vietnamese Pigs, very
popular as pets. They are apparently quite neat and
clean animals with distinct personalities.

Pig-bashing seems irrational to me. They can't help
being pigs. If they want to mate with several others,
why not let them? Why did God first create them and
then proclaim they are a blight on this earth? I don't
get it but am willing to learn.

Oink. :-)


Vasudev
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murthy@asl.dl.nec.com      my own  and have nothing to do with
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From: nazir@sw.stratus.com (Meer Nazir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:02:52 GMT
Reply-To: somebody@somehost.edu
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc.

In article <1blc02INNr05@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, rajesh@quince (Rajesh Raman) writes:
> imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar) writes:
> : 
> : Bullshit!  If Islam was being spread, especially in India, at the 
> : point of a sword how come the Hindus remained a MAJORITY or for that
> : matter they even stayed ALIVE or survived as a race.  Must have
> : 9 lives or something.
> : 
> : Imran Anwar
> 
>   Imran Bhai, can you really believe that a minority can wipe out a majority.
>   We're talking people in such numbers. One person could kill ten others. But
>   ten million people can't go out and kill hundred million people. Is there 
>   any use trying to attack others' religions? When you attack someone's rel-
>   igion give some coherent points. Don't just make fun of it. That would only
>   lead to a battle of tongues.
> 
>   That Hindus were persecuted in India under many Muslim kings is a fact.

Sure Rajesh it may be true that some of the Muslim Kings would have persecuted
Hindus. But Bhai ISLAM was not spread in INDIA by those Kings. I am sure 
majority of Hindus would have hated them. ISLAM was spread by the great saints
in subcontinent, like Hazrat Data Gunj Baksh, Hazrat Bahuddin Zikriya, Hazrat
Moin ud din Chisti and many of others like them. I know in Pakistan how much
people respect them, but was told by an indian friend that they enjoy same 
respect from Hindus in INDIA. You can sure disagree with this point. As I have
been just given an observation by one person.
Rajesh I am sure you will understand that you can influence people by imposing
your culture with the help of media or gun. But making someone change their 
religion Answer is simply NO. Religous believes cannot be changed by throwing 
flames and walking with the sword.
They can only be changed by convincing someone to a level that
you can win his heart and mind at the same time. Just think when anyone who 
accepts ISLAM he is not surrendering himself to some king but he is surrendering his soul, pride, honour, to the "MIGHTIEST KING OF UNIVERSE". 
No one in this world can ask someone to give up all of above to some good or 
ugly looking mughal KING.

Hope this will clear this issue a little bit.

MEER NAZIR
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:07:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: iago.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <13OCT199216333497@juliet.caltech.edu>, azeem@juliet.caltech.edu (Azeem, Mohammad) writes...
>In article <13OCT199208420774@vxcrna.cern.ch>, mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes...
> 

>     	the history of Islam, it was spread with the help of the
>     	sword. Ashamed to be a part of an unjust system.

     No, Islam was not spread with the help of the sword. Let's
     not fall in the clinch of western propaganda.

> 
>Mohammad Azeem
> 

     Asim Mughal
     [Standard Disclaimer]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Subject: Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:16:02 GMT

>Dear Brother Gopal,
>
>	Pigs by nature has the property, I stated earlier, and considering its
>structure I would answer with a "No" to you first question. By "in general" I
>mean the world or planet Earth.  In addition to the previously stated property
>that pig body posesses, it has another property i.e:  
>
>	The pig does not reproduce like other animals.  More than one male pig 
>uses the same female pig.  The father of the child is not known.  This is a
>dirty act and no other animals does it.  
>
>Your Brother,
>
>Akhtar Waqas.
>
Are you trying to be humorous?  Before eating beef do you find out who the
father of the cow is, does it matter?  And about no other animal doing
the same thing, you haven't seen dogs on Indian streets.  As far as I know
no animals have a husband and wife concept.


Manoj
>
>> As for the 3rd world countries, I think labelling a pig as `impious' is 
>> appropriate since the common man cannot understand the word `unsanitary'
>> but he understands `impious' (I hope this reverses some day). 
>> 
>> regards,
>> --   
> 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani)
Subject: Who is a traitor ?
Summary: Naveed Sherwani is a traitor....as per PSA 
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:43:53 GMT


           HOW CAN WE DECLARE A PERSON TO A TRAITOR ?
           ---------------------------------------
Today, I came back from vacation in LA and found the following 
a very inetrseting letter in my mailbox. In order to be fair to 
the writer, I will reproduce the entire letter.
 

************start letter******************************


                PAKISTAN STUDENT ASSOCIATION
 ------------------------------------------------------------

Western Michigan University, P.O. Box 95, Kalamazoo, MI 49008


Date: October 5, 1992


From:

          ------------------------
          Tahir Aman Khan (President)
          Pakistan Students Association, WMU.

To:

         Naveed Sherwani, CS Departmant, WMU.


Subject: Your Involvement in our Affairs 
---------------------------------------- 

  We hereby ban your participation in any of our gathering or
meeting. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO PAKISTAN AND US AND WE DISREGARD
YOU AS A PAKISTANI. Infect, we place you in the fifth column, in
case you dont know what fifth column means: it means traitor.


**************end letter********************************
+ the word infect was mis-spelled in the letter. I persume, writer
intended infact. All typos/gammer errors are faithfullt duplicated.
I also think that the name of the organization must be Pakistan
Students Asociation. Notice that letterhead refers to only one student.

Actually, I was rather amused by the letter, however its
seriousness cannot be ignored. It is not very clear, as to how
much these folks know about law, but I am sure they know that
calling somebody a traitor on an offical letterhead of an organization
is rather serious.

Several questions come to mind. 

Am I the first traitor ?  or others have been branded before me.
What country did I defect to ?  
What actions qualify me for this `title' ?

Should it go un-noticed ? My Lawyer thinks NOT !
Should such organizations be allowed to function in university 
and send letters like that ? I think they need to exercise some
caution before writing blatant letters like that.  

Unfortunately, all legal actions will hurt the very cause of 
initiation of PSA. And it will cement in minds of non-pakistanis
that we cannot accept dis-agreement of ideas.  

Any comments ? 

regards,

-Naveed

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: smunir@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sohail Munir)
Subject: Adress of University Grants Commision.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:51:20 GMT

Assalam-u-allaikum,
Does any one happen to know the adress of University Grants Commison, Pakistan.
If so, would you please e-mail it to me. I would really appreciate it.

Thnx.

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From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Awami Disco Party - a Statement on Naveed Shervani's behalf
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:15:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: prism.1992Oct14.221533.20504
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York

In article <1992Oct14.122757.5466@doug.cae.wisc.edu> ahasan@cae.wisc.edu (Ali Hasan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.034125.3263@sol.cs.wmich.edu> sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes:
>>
>> I guess I never learned how to question when I was in Pakistan. I give credit
>>of this type of thinking to american education system. I am very happy that I 
>>have learned to question my beliefs and my ideas........ 

>
>..Though one thing that is here and not there is that one is not punished
>for asking questions. Which means only the brave can ask questions in
>Pakistan, and everyone can do that here.
>
>						--ali.

Naveed and Ali, you guys have made scp worth reading. Wah!!

  Na Mun Tun-haa da-reen May-khana Mus-tam
  Junaid o Shibi o Attaar hum Must
{ I am not the only drunk in this bar, Junaid, Shibli and Attaar are alse
  drunk besides me}

Arshad Hussain
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan