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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Purdue football
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:21:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.205428.23367@oakhill.sps.mot.com> duane@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Duane Cripe) writes:
>
>Seriously, what can we expect from a program that lived through the Leon 
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Burtnett and Fred Akers losing era.  It took 10 years to reach the bottom,
>and it ain't gonna turn around over night.....

	Let's reword that to say "died during"...

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| Randy Peppler               |
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| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: neierka@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kent A. Neier)
Subject: Re: ND-Miami (more and more)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:41:37 GMT


DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS writes
>In article <1992Sep27.230256.20038@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@joplin.helios.nd.edu  
(Robert Szczerba) writes:

>|> the mighty Canes do against a real opponent.  If this Saturday was any
>|> indication, I think the loyal Cane fans are in for a LONG season.
>
>Yes, what this Saturday said is that the Mighty Hurricane Defense can win a game,
>even if the qb had a bad game (the numbers do not tell the story correctly as I
>have heard).  The got a safety, and held Arizona to only 7 points.

Well, if holding an offense to only SEVEN points is good, how great does
that make the Arizona defense.  After all, their offense gave up the
winning two pointer.  :-)

Kent Neier
neierka@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
neierka@cs.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: elder@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Greg Elder)
Subject: Re: Weekend WacK UPdate
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:47:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.171817.11509@news.Hawaii.Edu> bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
>
>9/28/91
>
>(in no particular order)
>
>		conf	o all
>		W L	W L T
>Hawaii :-)      2 0     3 0
>S.D. St.	1 0     1 1 1
>bYu		1 2     1 3
>Fresno		1 0	2 2
>N.Mex.		0 1 	1 3
>Wyo		0 1 	2 2
>Utah		0 0 	2 1
>ColoSt		0 1 	1 3 
>Air F.		2 1	3 1
>TeX ElP		0 1	0 3
>
>recent results
>
>
      [recent scores deleted]
>--
>    bill@uhunix.bitnet 
>    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
>    21.19 N.LAT by 157.52 W.LONG          
>    Fish on the Byte

This is really a question about Hawaii.  How many of their games each year
are played away?  Someone once told me that due to the traveling costs/
distances involved, Hawaii only plays about 3 games away from home each
year.  Is that true?  Just curious.

                             Go Air Force!  Beat Army and Navy!

--
  Greg Elder               | 
  Dept of Computer Science |  
  Arizona State University | 
  elder@enuxha.eas.asu.edu |  
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jvbutera@grad09.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: football in Florida
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.150459.23490@cs.wm.edu> djryan@ct.cs.wm.edu (David J. Ryan) writes:
*I can't remember FSU or Miami losing back-to-back games in that fashion 
*(at least not in the last 6 years or so).

Short memories?

Try FSU's two first games in 1989.  I believe they lost #1 to Southern
Miss and #2 to Clemson, before going on to win the remainders and
still end up ranked #3 (or so) in the nation.

*Dave Ryan
*
*Go Noles!


-- 
Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lowe@lowe.b11.ingr.com (Keith Lowe)
Subject: Re: Could there be 3 nat'l champs?
Reply-To: lowe@ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:41:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.122806.11959@b11.b11.ingr.com>, lowe@lowe.b11.ingr.com (Keith Lowe) writes:
|> |> And one other thing; If an SEC team is
|> |> anything and 0 going into the bowl games, whoever they are, they
|> |> will be 12-0, not 11-0.  We *have* a playoff system.
|> 
|> You are right on the money there.

After re-reading this, I saw your point.  My point was that if anyone
from the SEC is good enough to go into their bowl game at 12-0, they
will come out at 13-0.

-- 
Keith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jerdman@evans.den.mmc.com (Joe Erdman)
Subject: Air Force vs New Mexico
Organization: MMAG
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:14:41 GMT

9-26-92
It was USAF homecoming and at the end of the first half, UNM leads 22 - 0.:(
With 11:00 minutes left in the game, UNM leads 32 - 12. :( Then the fun began.
In less than 7:00 minutes, USAF forced several UNM turnovers and scored 21
points to win the game.  The icing on the cake was a tipped pass for an
interception by Carlton McDonald with about 4 minutes left.  Air Force then 
drove the ball down the field and let time run out.
This was absolutely THE best football game I have ever seen.  It was great to
see this game in person.
As a previous post stated, the WAC may not have the best teams in the CFA,
but they sure are the most exciting.

GO AIR FORCE, BURY THE MINERS!!!!

Erdy
Newsgroups: osu.sports,rec.sport.football.college
From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Subject: Re: OSU Falls to Wisconsin!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 22:15:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.001142.27824@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> tshannon@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
>
>	HA!!!!!  OSU vs. Michigan for the Roses, yeah right.  I think
>this year Michigan out classes all of the other Big Ten teams.  And next
>year it will be Michigan or Penn St. to to the Rose Bowl.  OSU will go to 
>the number 2 bowl for the big ten. 

Actually, if OSU wins the rest of their games up to Michigan, then the game
will indeed be for the Roses.  If OSU doesn't win all their games up to 
Michigan, its unlikely they will be 2nd in the Big 10...
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------
| Pat Lawson                     :  Go Buckeyes!!!!!!            |
| lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
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From: swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Bob Swanson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Kiss of Death
Keywords: all over but the shoutin'
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:39:31 GMT
Organization: Florida State University "I Told You So" Department

peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.020008.19063@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Bob Swanson) writes:
>>
>>Nole Fans, you may as well make other plans this weekend.  Lee Corso just 
>>picked FSU to win big this weekend.  And he has a direct line to the woof gods.

...I TOLD you so...

>
>	Lee probably doesn't count, since he went to school at FSU and
>	the football gods have already dismissed him as a buffoon...
>

This is a common belief, but I thought Lee went to N.Carolina, or maybe NCState
and played ball there.  Was he a graduate student/coach/etc at FSU?  I'm pretty
sure I've heard him say he played ball in Carolina.
-- 
Bob Swanson			    Give me a lever long enough, and a place
swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu	    to stand, and I will break my lever.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:12:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.124611.23629@dvorak.amd.com> chrisk@nucleus.amd.com (Chris Kosh) writes:
>Would someone in this newsgroup please pass the word to the
>peons in oklahoma that its time once again.  Let them know to
>go ahead and begin talking because they simply cannot beat a 
>team from a superior state, regardless of talent, tradition,
>ranking, or record.

Hmm.  So the superior state order is California > Oklahoma > Texas ?  


- goober (you both suck) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:21:19 GMT

rszczerb@beethoven.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:

>In article <BvM2Jt.F2u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rick Lin ) writes:
>>
>>Hey Notre Dame fans!  At least Miami doesn't play for a tie, they play to WIN!  

>It seems to me that if the FSU kicker had converted on a relatively
>easy 37 yard field goal, then the mighty Canes would have tied too.


I would think the ragging on ND over the (latest) tie would be over.
Since losing at home to Stanford , ND is going nowhere except in their
own minds.

But Robert if you watched the game , Miami got a (very weird) safety
after the score was 17-16 and it then became 19-16.
There was never a question of Miami having an opportunity to 'go for the tie'.

There's been woofing about Bowden since the game for going for the tie but
can you really blame him. FSU would have had at least 2 MNC's if it wasn't
for Miami and they played a heck of a game. 

A local newspaper article said that Bobby has stated for some time that
his epitaph would say 'but he played Miami' . 

After the game he was quoted as saying '...unlike some of my coaching
friends who will play Miami a couple times and then back out , we will
continue to play Miami . It's always one of the best games of the year.'

You have to admit the guy (and the FSU program) has class. 

Hell , since run-it-up Johnson has become a 'cow-cane' and Erickson 
took over the coaching duties , the Canes have slowed down on their
nastiness. Of course Cane haters will find this very hard to believe
so they won't believe it. 

So GO CANES keep on winning - 48 straight in the OB - 22 straight overall.

     ________      ___             __        __       ________     _________
    /\_______\    /\__\           /\_\      /\_\     /\_______\   /\________\
   / / ______/   / / _ \         / /  \    / / /    / / ______/  / / _______/
  / / /         / / /_\ \       / / /\ \  / / /    / / /____    / / /______ 
 / / /____     / / /___\ \     / / /  \ \/ / /    / /  ____/    \/______  /
/ / /_____\   / /  _____  \   / / /    \ \/ /    / /  /_____  /\_______/ / 
\/________/   \/__/     \__\  \/_/      \__/     \/________/  \/________/
                                                                             
Justin Frederich - Cane Fan Since 1970
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:04:01 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <92277.212850RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

| Hey, I'm a HUGE Penn State fan, too, and I'd love to see it happen.  But,
| even if we do go 11-0, Michigan's still going to be in the way.  We would
| need UCLA to play Michigan and have UCLA win...Michigan is the No. 1 team in
| football right now - both by my rankings and the computer rankings!!!!!!
| The Big 10 is tough! 

The Big 10, is the most over rated conference in football.  In non-conference
games they have a losing record.  This year and every year.


PSU hasn't even played one top 25 team this year.   John Sacca will
see what a real defense looks like then.   

DA CANE   HERE WE COME AGAIN .    Road-Trip to Pepsi State.
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: who FSU has never lost to/beaten
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:52:12 GMT
	<92280.002815KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <92280.002815KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:
}} 
}} In article <19837@ector.cs.purdue.edu>, sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) says:
}} 
}} >                      Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.
}} 
}} Who gave Jeremy Rifkin an account?

Obviously someone who understands the situation.  Even by the beef
industry's own studies, it takes at least seven pounds of vegetable
protein to produce a pound of beef protein (other studies place the
ratio as high as 24:1).  And that doesn't count the energy cost, water
usage, or environmental damage from the hooved locusts.

But this certainly has nothing to do with this newsgroup, unless we're
talking about Longhorns...

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
       "If you loose your arrow, you're likely to lose it in the weeds,"
                       was often heard in days of yore.

             If I don't want it in my back yard, I don't want it.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Organization: 
Distribution: usa,world
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:09:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.161617.25351@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu (JAMES P O) writes:
> God I am so tired of reading the pac-10 fans wooofin' on east coast 
> teams and how great washoutton is. I hope they take the challange of 
> going to the fiesta bowl with us (FSU or MIAMI) and show  the usa what 
> brand of football UW plays: powderpuf (against pac-10) or hardhitting
> "espn in your face" where even the injured play (i.e. 
> armstead,torretta <UM  baker, m. jones <FSU)

Hey Butthead!  Did you or did you not notice that Miami almost got beat
by the second weakest (supposedly) of the "Powderpuf" league teams?


> 
> If ya cant handle the heat, get outta the kitchen!!!
>                       ^^^^   
>                          (or florida humidity)
> 

Damn.  This is a highly intelligent post!

> 
> --->->->--------------G-O------N-O-L-E-S---------------------------------->
> James O'Connor                          FSU-vs-MIAMI
> JOCONNOR@evax.eng.fsu.edu               Oct 3,1992   12:00pm
> "  ... I don't need this shit!"         Orange Bowl, Miami
>               -kinison

Gee, I always used to pull for FSU over Miami, too.  Oh well.   :)



-Daytrpr



*****TIE!*****TIE!*****TIE!*****TIE!*****TIE!*****TIE!*****TIE!*****TIE!*****
      (FSU-vs-MIAMI)
      (Oct 3,1992    12:00pm)
      (Orange Bowl, Miami)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU Football Season tickets
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 09:00:08 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Oct5.182434.29169@cis.ohio-state.edu>, wang-c@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (Wang-Chien Lee) writes:
>I have a pair of OSU season tickets for sale. The seats are
>located in 9A row 26. If interested, please call 291-4530
>or send mail to wang-c@cis.ohio-state.edu
>
Now why would someone from OhioSt have tickets to the OklahomaSt
games?  Or is it to the OregonSt games?  I can see why they want
to get rid of them.
--
Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
From: wg2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Gregory)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: SC - Blahshington
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:37:10 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

What's going on in this game?  Somebody post please.  I'm stuck in a
computer lab....
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
Subject: Re: Former Purdue QB's on Saturday
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:19:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.183435.1395@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>First, I see this NFL preview show with Len Dawson, Nick Bonnicante
>(spelled wrong, I know) and some other dude.  Then, I see that Bob Griese
>is doing the Miami-FSU game.  Finally, I get Gary Danielson for the
>Wisconsin-Ohoho State game.  What's the deal?  I think all these former
>Purdue QB's on TV is making the woofing gods mad at Purdue (even though you
>NEVER hear these guys comment on Purdue).
>-- 
>
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu


Boiler fans saw a jersey with the name "Hoffman" and #12 walk on the
field in the 4th quarter, while many thought that this was the 
senior third stringer, in fact, it was 1967 Big Ten champ QB
Mike Phipps who sneaked into uniform after being introduced 
at halftime.  Phipps threw for 106 yards on 5 completions and
one TD, but it was too little, too late.


-- 
   <===========================><===============================>
   || Christopher Landers      ||  Stamp Out Silly Signatures! ||
   <============== landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ================>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: San Diego St. will beat UCLA
From: rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 05:50:41 PDT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka) writes:

> UCLA has a GREAT defense, I was impressed
> 
> Carlton Gray (DB) is going to be a a high first round pick in the
> next NFL draft, he was awesome Saturday
> 

     Well, as an Aztec fan I wasn't particularly thrilled with the score, 
but I'll certainly agree with you about Gray.  His coverage on Darnay 
Scott is really the reason UCLA did so well.  By taking him out of the 
game, the Bruins were able to key on Faulk all night.  They really are an 
awfully good team.

-Bob

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From: tsau@cae.wisc.edu (Johne Tsau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Wisconsin at Iowa
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:23:17 GMT

Am I the only one who feels that Wisconsin at Iowa this week will be
tougher than Ohio at Wisconsin?  Wisconsin has a history of playing
OSU hard, but when was the last time UW beat Iowa at home?  Iowa
is hungry for a win now (if not hungry for some confidence back), and
Iowa is not as bad as their record shows.  Afterall, all of their losses
were to Top-20 teams I believe...

Wisconsin will have to play no mistake football I think to win in Iowa
City.  Eliminate the penalties, make smart passes, and don't make
turnovers.  

BTW, does anyone have team statistics for the Big10? Thanx...x?P
-
Johne.
From: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rusty Medearis
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:44:29 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Sep29.002241.27457@ncsu.edu> Sanjeev Banerjia writes:
>Surprised all of you rabid Floridians (and others) have yet to comment on how
>this will affect the game...

I'll crawl out of my cave long enough to tell you...

I generally crawl into a cave before the Miami game. I do it at the
beginning of the week, I rarely talk about the game, I watch it alone,
and then I crawl back into the cave for another week regardless of the
outcome. I'm not even going to tell you I'm happy about Rusty's injury.

David Poore
poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: vish@nd.edu (Vishwamber Yelsangikar)
Subject: FREE NOTRE DAME TICKETS AVAILABLE!!!!
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Uni or Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:08:14 GMT



Just kidding.  

Notre Dame 40
Stanford   14
--------------------- Go Reggie Brooks/Mirer/Bettis/Dubose

Vishwamber Yelsangikar
Network Engineer.
Notre Dame.

Go Bills!!!!
Go Irish!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jcho@nmsu.EDU (CHO)
Subject: FSU, not this year.
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:11:48 GMT


Why I grieve as much as I do for the Noles...none of my roommates
can explain... Miami came from behind in the 4th to win 19-16.
Even the FSU last field goal attempt was reminisent of last year.
It hurts...it really hurts.  But allow me to say Miami played 
better than I expected... Not only were their receivers on fire
in the 4th...their defense crunched alot.  Kudos to the 'Noles in
a good attempt.  I doubt many teams would be able to dominate
as FSU did in the 1st 3 quarters... Looks like the 'Noles can still
look forward to an ACC championship (if they get by GTech and Virgina).
I can only imagine that FSU will be putting the ACC teams to the test 
now that they have nothing to lose.  As for Lamar Thomas....AARRGGGHH!
Er...he is tops. Best wishes to both teams.

						JCHO@nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
Subject: Re: Arizona beats UCLA
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 06:49:21 GMT

In article <1anmm8INNgmk@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>Arizona defeated UCLA in Tucscon, 23-3.  
>I guess the Huskies don't have to worry about an undefeated UCLA getting
>the trip to Pasadena.  And I think we can probably put to rest the
>notion of a Penn State-Washington Blockbuster Bowl for the MNC.
>
>The only teams which really threaten the Huskies chances are Stanford
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and Cal, and Washington plays both of those teams at home.
^^^^^^^^
>
>William F. Tell
>UC Berkeley

Ahh Bill, Washington ain't no Oregon State... And they're a tad better
than Purdue. ;-)  You know, Purdue, the team that LOST to Northwestern
and outscored a certain PAC10 team by 27 points...


========================================================
| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal  |
| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl     |
========================================================
From: JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:40:15 GMT
 <Bv9sMJ.Lzr@encore.com>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <Bv9sMJ.Lzr@encore.com>, jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) says:
>
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>
>In <1992Sep27.230815.20234@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@joplin.helios.nd.edu (Robert
>Szczerba) writes:
>
>Miami found a way to win, while playing poorly.  Just like all great teams
>do that don't panic and play for a tie.
>
Although I do admire the deserved backhanded slap at ND, you can't really
say that Miami found a way to win.  Arizona missed a winning FG by about
two feet.  Arizona managed to lose; Miami didn't win anywhere but in the
W/L column.  See current polls for evidence.

Miami got lucky--something else that happens to the great teams.  Yeah,
it's mainly a matter of semantics, but after all, I AM working on
a Phd in English . . .


Jim "I Want my SEC" Thomas
Penn State
From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Huskie party - before you flame
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:01:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: aludra.1aajohINNgnc
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

>BTW Someone posted that UW, by going to the Rose Bowl three times in a
>row would break know records needs to go over thier facts again, USC
                ^^^^^^
>has done it a couple times.

Before someone flames me on a typo and poor grammer, let me point out
that I realize my mistake.  I went engineering due to my poor english
and grammer skills.

Fight On!

Brian A. Kowal