From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat)
Subject: Re: Clinton: "I am adamantly opposed to legalization of drugs!"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:58:05 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.guns


In <1992Oct15.134749.12720@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Anthony Ankrom states:

|Regarding Braun and gun control:

|What good is it to have the right to keep and bear arms if you have no
|other rights?

You have this reasoning reversed. Who would attempt to stomp on your
other rights if everyone were armed? Government edicts are nothing
if they are not enforced via force. How many people would pay their
taxes if the government had no guns?

|It is my guess that the plan of the far-right (and
|near-right as well) to save gun control 'til last to ensure that the votes
|keep coming in from those who fear gun regulation won't allow them to
|protect them and theirs.

I like the part about "fear gun regulation" as if it weren't about
some BAN on firearms. Well, it _IS_ about BANNING firearms; Chicago
has banned new handguns, and many semi-auto rifles as well. 

|First of all I must say that I too am against gun
|control. Mostly for the principle of the thing. I also believe that any
|severe restrictive measures in gun control would still meet with
|opposition so that tough regulations would not pass.

Well, you are wrong. The aldermen's offices in the City of Chicago
was deluged with calls OPPOSING the military-style semi-automatic weapons
bans. Did the aldermen give a shit about the constituents? Hell no.

|I heard a man arguing
|(in an army/navy store no less...) that unless we vote for Bush, we soon
|would have no right to bear arms.

After years of lying to us about how they only wanted to ban _HANDGUNS_,
what first statewide ban occurred on firearms? Yeah, that's right, a
BAN on military-style semi-autos in CA, NJ,...

|This is, of course, complete bunk.

Yeah, right. Can I carry a handgun in Chicago for self-defense? Can
I go into a gunshop in Chicago and buy a handgun? Can I even own an
AR-15 in Chicago legally?

|The
|most burning issue (or what SHOULD be the most burning issue) for the
|president of the United States is our economy.

Look yourself in the mirror. YOU, that's right, YOU voted to place
people in public office to uphold the Constitution. The Bill of
Rights encompasses the RKBA of the Citizens. The people YOU placed
into office have violated their oath of office to uphold the
Constitution.

|And can we sacrifice other
|freedoms merely for the sake of the freedom to have a gun?
	  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Are your FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS, some, like the Right to Keep and Bear
Arms, specifically stated in the Constitution, merely lip service
to keep some "dead white males" happy, or are they something worth
defending, something worth holding the feet of elected Representatives
in the fire for?

|Is the
|trade-off worthwhile?

Trade-off? Did you agree to a trade-off of your 2nd Amendment RKBA
when you elected a person to first UPHOLD your Constitution and
THEN implement your economic policies?

|The whole idea that "liberals" or "lefties" or
|Democrats would drasticly reduce the freedom to bear arms is a myth that
|the conservatives are pawning off to those who are not biased politically
|to make sure that they get those crucial votes. It's pure ruse and I'm not
|buying it.

Now that is truly a remarkable statement. Your "liberals" and "lefties"
and "Democrats" are running with all sorts of gun bans and restrictions
as part of their position statements; so why you would consider that
a "pure ruse" is certainly beyond me.
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