HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Boudria)
Subject: Re: Names not to use
Organization: Raytheon Company, Portsmouth, RI
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:10:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.125421.4006@samba.oit.unc.edu> cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa) writes:
>Sometime ago I read somewhere that Mr. Lear (as in the maker
>of jets) named his daughter Shander Lear.  My sister always
>said she was going to name her son after our grandfather,
>George.  However, she decided on another name after she
>married as her married name is Custer.  So, I got to
>use the name George.
>
>Cathryn
>cew@med.unc.edu
>

Back when I was in high school, I dated a guy I thought I was "in love" with.
We even pick out furniture and decided on our kids names Andrea for a girl,
and Daniel for a boy.  When I later got married (to another guy, of course)
and pregnant, I thought about the names we had picked out long ago.  My
husband really liked Daniel for a boy but our last name is Boudria, sooooo

Andrea Boudria

No, I don't think so.

Denise

P.S.  The neat thing is I had a boy and named him Daniel.  I took a class
last semester and my old high school sweetheart was in it (no fireworks or
nothing, just an ordinary nice guy).  Anyway guess what he named his 
daughter? That's right - Andrea.  We both laughed about the names.  Pretty
weird.
Xref: sparky misc.kids:25548 soc.singles:27276
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Birth Announcement and Labour Story
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:55:55 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1b1uj1INNc1v@informatics.wustl.edu> bloch@wupost.wustl.edu (Charlene Bloch Abrams) writes:

>The epidural, much to my surprise (and contrary to my prior experience)
>hurt like HELL going in. It must have been near a nerve or something, as
>I got shooting pains down my legs, a brief headache, and some backache.


>Well, I pushed and pushed ad nauseum, and it seemed like nothing was
>happening, until the epidural wore off ... whoever said contractions
>don't hurt during pushing was lying! They hurt PLENTY! After more
>epidural (and no more squatting - I had sufficient control of my legs
>to squat until the refill) I pushed some more ad nauseum, and eventually,
>after almost 2 hours, at 7:44am, Stuart was born. 


>In spite of his size, I had only a second degree episiotomy, which was
>painful for a few days and uncomfortable for maybe a week, for which I
>am eternally grateful. The doctor remarked at the time that my previous
>4th degree episiotomy wasn't all that surprising, as my perineum is
>apparently very short, so even a slight tear beyond the usual 2nd degree
>cut would do it - and did!



That's it.  I'm going to adopt.  PUPPIES.


  


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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 8 Oct 1992 19:13:14 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


Let's see...

   There was a girl in a high school near mine whose first name was
   "Precious"

   There was a distinguished engineering professor at University of
   Arkansas whose name was John ("don't call me Jack") Imhoff.

   There was a story about a man who had no given names, only initials
   "R B Jones".  Some bureaucratic process required putting his name
   on a form, so it was entered as "R(only) B(only) Jones"  and in
   due time his name was reported as "Ronly Bonly Jones".  I guess
   there are a fair number of people who have one or more initials
   where names would be expected, as in this example.  There was a
   report on comp.risks, I believe, of an Asian man whose last name
   was rendered as "O"; he had all kinds of problems with bureaucratic
   systems that wouldn't accept a single-character as a name.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

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        Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa)
Subject: You know you are a parent when....
Originator: cew@pelham
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:44:42 GMT

You find yourself having a conversation with your 2.8 year old
son about where dinosaurs poop, if they wore diapers, and whre
whether or not they use the potty and it is only 6:45 AM.
Can you tell we are into potty training at our house???

Cathryn W. Chiesa
cew@med.unc.edu

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: kvt@willow.mitre.org
Subject: Re: What happened to Barney?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:02:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.163925.13847@nas.nasa.gov> choi@wk59.nas.nasa.gov (Diana  
Choi) writes:
> In article <4570271@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com> janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus)  
writes:
> >>Uhmm, interesting.  Can you tell us why you don't like Barney?
> >
> >I agree that Barney is good entertainment for my kids; I have no
> >objection to them watching it.  My point was that *I* hate to watch it.
> >I can't stand watching those kids with smiles plastered on their faces 
> >and lip-synching.  They're a big bunch of hams.  So, unlike Sesame Street, 
> >which I can stand to watch with my kids and sometimes I find it 
> >entertaining, I would typically leave the room when Barney comes on.
> >
> Same here ...yuck seems real phoney to me.  But my nieces LOVE it and even
> my 9 month old baby loves it.  So does anybody know where to get Barney
> toys?
> 
> diana


Around the Washington D.C. area J.C. Penny's is the place.
They have a variety of Barney vhs tapes (about 12 different ones
that are not the ones that are shown on tv, $14.95), the stuffed
Barney and Baby Bop dolls ($19.95 ea), Barney T-Shirts ($8.95),
Barney Bath Towel and Washcloth ($9.95), and supposedly Barney
Pajamas (don't know the price of these).  If you buy one of the
vhs tapes there is a form inside to become a Barney Fan Club 
Member (free) or you can just write to the Lyons group (sorry,
don't have the address with me, but will dig it up if needed). 

Kathy T.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell)
Subject: Response to newborn fever
Organization: Department of Genetics, University of Utah
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:07:14

I'd like to pass on an experience we had with
our second child in the hope that it may help
other parents.  This is not intended to alarm 
or cause concern, but simply to inform.

The second day home with our baby girl she
had a noticable change in disposition--not 
as animated, somewhat lethargic.  My wife,
being the lovable worry-wart that she is,
started taking the babies temperature at
regular intervals.  When it reached 100, 
we called our pediatrican, got the answering
service, and waited.

We were somewhat apprehensive while waiting
for the doctor's call, but not overly concerned.
The babies fever was over 101 by the time the
call came.   We filled in the doc, and he
gave us the bad news: he instructed us to take
our four-day-old baby to the emergency room of
the children's hospital, where they would have
to start immediate IV antibotics, and run 
numerous test, one of which required a spinal tap,
and she would have to stay for at least two days. 

To make a long story short, after three hours of 
taking blood samples and spinal fluid, and attaching 
my daughter to IVs and electronic monitors, with long
periods of just waiting, they admitted her to the 
newborn intensive care unit, where she stayed for six days.  

The reason for all this, as the doctors explained
to us, was that newborn immune systems are not fully 
functional, and a baby can die very quickly from 
certain bacterial infections.  The doctors must assume 
the worst and treat aggressively, since exact diagnosis 
requires running cultures, which takes time.

The reality of the situation is that the odds are 
very much against a newborn's fever being a life
threatening condition.  But who would be willing to
roll the dice when their child's life is at stake?

On top of the shock of the experience and worry for
the baby, I was dismayed that this danger was news
to me.   I figured that this is something all parents
should know.

Our story has a happy ending.  The final diagnosis
was viral pneumonia, which is about the most benign
of the possibilities.  (A little fuel for the anti-
hospital folks, since our baby must have been exposed 
very shortly after being born.)


As a side note, this little encounter with modern
medicine cost around $15,000.  The main portion
was the bed/care costs of being in the Newborn ICU
of one of the best children's hospitals anywhere -- 
Primary Children's Medical Center in Salt Lake City.  
The irony of all this being that she probably would 
have been fine if we had kept her home.


Be aware, be careful, but don't worry; worry changes
nothing but your blood pressure and the lining of your
stomach.


jeff

Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med,chi.general
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:23:11 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Oct5.192202.14131@cs.rochester.edu> fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk) writes:
> 
>I never said that ADD or ADHD don't exist.  What I object to is the strong
>tendence, in recent years and in some areas, for certain doctors, teachers,
>and psychologists to diagnose ADD on slim evidence.
>
I agree.  That is why a specialist should make the diagnosis.
Certainly a teacher should *never* be allowed to make it.  Only
suggest that the child be seen by a specialist.  Doctors in
the employ of the school district also have a conflict of interest
in that regard.  A psychologist is an ancillary person in this
regard, and should never be allowed to make the diagnosis, only
suggest it on the basis of the tests he/she performs.

>4) It is unnatural for four-year-olds to sit still for two hours.
>It is unnatural for kids under ten to stay in a classroom all day;
>recess is important!
>

I think ADD is possibly almost a normal varient, and what you say
about it being unnatural to for kids to sit still in a classroom
certainly is true.  Unfortunately, failure to be able to learn
in the classroom will cause tremendous grief for the poor kid
in his later life.  Kids who really have ADD, though, are more
than just a little hyperactive.

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From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:28:16 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct8.163733.1@bronco.fnal.gov> colombo@bronco.fnal.gov writes:
>
>Now if my first name was Christopher...  The day we celebrate as
>Columbus day (Oct 12) should actually be Oct 23, which is my birthday.

I knew before he was conceived that "Christopher Colucci" was going
to become "Christopher Columbus" to the school bus crowd.  I was right.

We've got lots of Christopher Columbus books and statues.  I wanted to
stress early on that if anyone called him that, he should be honored
because Christopher Columbus was a great, brave man.  I think I went
a little overboard. (no pun intended).

-Nance
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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up" 
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:10:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.145223.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov> willis@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:

When I looked in the mirror and saw a strange resemblance to my mother.  
Actually I didn't feel grown-up, just old.
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From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up"  (was: Re: maternity lingerie)
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:00:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronco.1992Oct14.150041.1
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division

In article <1beutbINNdr4@gap.caltech.edu>, hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough) writes:
> 
> My college roommate's husband said that he felt old when he realized
> that all of the Playboy centerfolds were younger than he was. (I think
> he was maybe 22 when he said that).
> 
> Sue 
> 

That's nothing, just wait until you realize that you're old enough
to be their father.

Grandpa Rick

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From: twriter3@tetra (Denise Fischer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: AnyoneSurgery
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:08:49 GMT
Reply-To: twriter3@pencom.com (Denise Fischer)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <4320@winnie.fit.edu> batista@zach.fit.edu (Amina Batista)  
writes:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone out there has ever had to deal with this
> type of surgery.  How do you prepare a 2year old for surgery?
> 
> Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.  
> 
> I forgot to mention that the surgery will be done at an out patient
> facility so there will be no hospital stay.
> 
When my daughter was three months old, she was diagnosed with
a condition called cranio-sinistosis (spelling, whoops) and
was required to have surgery to create new soft spots on her
head. Because she was so young, she recovered incredibly well.
While we were at the hospital, there were two other children
there having the same surgery.  Here are the differences
in their recovery times:

Ingrid (3 months old) - 1 hour in intensive care, released in
	three days.
Baby Boy (one year old) - 2 days in intensive care, released
	in one week.
Young Girl (six years old) - 4 days in intensive care, released
	in three weeks.

According to my daughter's doctor, the surgery was much easier
because she was so young. If your doctor feels your son should
have this surgery, and a second opinion agrees with him, then
I would encourage you to do this now and not wait. As the body
matures, it becomes more difficult to heal. And while the 
surgery seems scary now, your son will probably not remember
any of it. If you were to wait until he was older (as someone
suggested), he would certainly remember it and the discomfort
a lot more.

In terms of preparation, I can't say enough about doctors
and nurses who work around children on a regular basis. They
work very hard to put the children and parents at ease and
to minimize the discomfort as much as possible. Taking your
son on a tour of the hospital might help, I know that some
hospitals provide a video orientation geared toward little
children before they go to the hospital. You might check to
see if that would be available beforehand.

As a mother who has been with her daughter through three
surgeries, I wish you the best of luck!

Denise
From: prevmary@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: places to live in the USA
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:31:32 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

I posted recently about places to live and work in the USA, Canada and Aus for
2 scientists with 2 kids.

Thanks everyone for their helpful suggestions about this rather impossible
dilemma. It has been very interesting and one thing above all has come out of
it - where NOT to live. Almost everyone was unanimous about this.  I had lots
of suggestions about where would be a good place to live but still a few
places had many more votes than others. Maybe cause people in these places have
more ready access to computer news groups than others.

Still it has been a very interesting exercise and given us lots of food for
thought.

I will post a reply to everyone who answered but that will take a while so hang
on. 

Also im sorry about using the word creche. For those who couldnt work it
out, creche = daycare = nursery = kindergarten (sort of) = playcentre (sort of)
etc etc. In Nz we use all sorts of terms to describe similar, but not identical,
facilities for child care.

Regards
Mary Jane
From: thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (Don't do this to your kids)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 17:16:39 GMT
Organization: I don't THINK so.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: globie.caltech.edu

In article <1bfjkvINN8fj@gap.caltech.edu> hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough) writes:
>My husband's (and children's) last name is "Slice".  The worst
>name we could think of (aside from Pizza) was Hamilton Slice,
>as in Ham Slice, as in pass the mustard...

How 'bout Dice Nelson?  ==>  Dice N. Slice.

(Sorry.  Couldn't resist.)

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thogek@cco.caltech.edu  |  sell phlegm and cut out the middleman?
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From: kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: need words to songs
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 10:50:07 CDT
Organization: Vermi-net, Houston, Tx. 77098

A while back, several someones wrote the words to some songs. I wrote them
down but my computer ate them. Can I please ask for them again?

The songs are:   Puff the Magic Dragon   and   The Unicorn Song.

Since I am collecting these for Girl Scout songs around the campfire, if
you have any others that are good, please let me know. Thank you.


* * email address: nuchat!xcluud!glnserv!kati * Houston, Texas, USA, Earth * *
From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Re: First bicycle - when?
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Distribution: usa
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:07:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.081713.29796@netcom.com> kaminski@netcom.com (Peter Kaminski) writes:

>In <cindy.96@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham) writes:

>>I realize that there isn't any magic age at which time a parent should 
>>buy their child's first bicycle, but based on your *experience*, can anyone 
>>recommend a general timeframe for when a child should be ready for their 
>>first bicycle?  

>I bought a bike for my son when he showed a real interest in them.
>(I presume you are talking about bikes/trikes for a little one and
>not just a two-wheeler for an older child).

 Sorry if I was unclear.  No, I meant a bicycle with two wheels.  

>At the time my son was not quite 18 months.  We got him a great
>tricicyle that was well built and not likely to tip over (your
>child will probably have a few spills until they figure things out).
>At this point he was not pedaling, he just rode pushing his feet off the
>ground, but he quickly learned how to pedal.
>He had lots of fun from the moment he first got the bike!

>Johanne 

 Thanks anyway.
From: judyd@rosebud.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E. Drake)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Fisher-Price car seat recall
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:18:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: master.3755
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.


Does anyone have any details on the Fisher Price car seat recall?
I read a brief article in the newspaper a couple of days ago that
seat models 9100 and 9101, made from February to October 1989 are
being recalled because of some defect in the plastic on the buckle
shield.

I tried to call the FP consumer affairs number (800-452-5437) 
many times today, but could not get through.  Has anyone else gotten
through and found out what the problem is with these seats and what
FP is doing about it?

Thanks in advance,
Judy Drake

P.S. Does anyone have another number for FP, perhaps a non-toll-free
number that's easier to get through on?
From: erik@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Erik Lode)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:40:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: places to live in the USA
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: misc.kids

adf@cs.utexas.edu (Angela Dappert-Farquhar) writes:

> Well, I just meant to post a similar question. (My husband, too, is
> looking for a new job.) Every year one sees newspaper articles about
> the top ten towns/cities in the US that are regarded to have the
> highest living quality for families. Does anybody know the source for
> those statistics? What are the criteria they use in order to come up
> with their scores? Does anybody have the current list, if not the
> source? 

  Money magazine prints its list of "most livable (?)" cities every
year.  They published their most recent list a month or so ago.  Fort
Collins was disappointed we didn't make #1 this time.
From: johnston@hertz.ee.washington.edu ( Craig Johnston 8838249 )
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Where can I find "Pedi Bares" shoes now? I've only got 6 months!
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:08:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct15.210837.16351
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


 
        I am trying to find the current manufacturer of the "Pedi Bares"
style of kids shoes.  These are soft leather moccasin type shoes that are
great for kids in the first couple of years while they are learning to walk.
I wore them when I was a kid (~1962&63) and my daughter is wearing them now.
We have another child on the way, and now after 30 years the company seems to
have gone out of business.  The last shoes we got were made by a company in
Tuscon AZ called "Infants Footwear Inc.".  We got the shoes from a mail order
outfit called "After the Stork", but they no longer stock this item.  A phone
call to them revealed that the shoe company has gone out of business and
another company has bought the rights to make them.  Does anyone know the name
of this company, or know of anywhere we could get these shoes?  Any help would
be greatly appreciated.  Email is preferred.

	Thanks,
	Craig Johnston  as  johnston@maxwell.ee.washington.edu
From: chirlian@fieser.brynmawr.edu (L.E. Chirlian)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re:  Vomiting in labor
Date: 8 Oct 1992 09:51:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

	Here's a data point for anyone interested.  I started to
throw up relatively early on in my labor.  I wasn't surprised because
I used to throw up from menstrual cramps and labor (the early parts
anyway) was quite similar.  I had had pizza for dinner (I remember
thinking it probably wasn't a great choice, but it was what I wanted)
even though I knew I was in labor because I didn't think anything was
going to happpen that soon.  
	
	Here's something I've been wondering about.  My cramps were
much worse after having been pregnant (I didn't start up again until
Libby was 10 months old) than they had been in a long, long time.  Did
anyone else have this experience?  Most people have told me that their
symptoms got better.  
	
				Lisa

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