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From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Questions for GUS owners!!!
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:31:22 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <PJA.92Oct10123826@lk-hp-10.hut.fi> pja@lk-hp-10.hut.fi (Petri Juhani Jarre) writes:
]In article <1b4idfINN77r@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
]>   that make use of this new Wavetable Synthesis technology and 32 digital
]
]Please! Sample playback has been around for centuries!
]
]Well, more than a decade. Emu Emulator sampler has been reviewed in
]Keyboard March '82, PPG Wave 2.2 (wavetable) synthesizer has been
]reviewed in Keyboard March '84. GUS doesn't come even close in terms
]of sound synthesis (or price). GUS has nothing to do with the PPG (or
]Waldorf Microwave) implementation.

Rick Coupland, myself and others developed a wavetable synthesizer
in 1975. It had 16 voices, attack/decay/sustain/release, frequency domain
waveform construction, and a full piano keyboard. In 1975, we had to
use MSI to do it all! For example, each output channel did floating point
to fixed point conversion AND accumulation using adders, latches and
shift registers. The entire instrument was the size of a piano. The
computational power of the instrument was 32 MFlops all done with
off-the-shelf SSI and MSI TTL Logic.

One was sold to UofA music department for experimentation.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundson)
Subject: Re: GUS Interrupts?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:25:47 GMT

rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

>So what interrupts does the GUS use/have available?  Can it use those
>above 8 on an AT?

The setup allows for 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 12, and 15.  I don't know whether there
are restrictions for the 286.

-- 

Darran Edmundson
darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca
From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS Compatability
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:23:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct15.182349.8737
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <markus.98.719168980@clement.info.umoncton.ca> markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:
>In article <MORGAN.92Oct14115440@dl5000.bc.edu> morgan@dl5000.bc.edu (Morgan Stair) writes:
>>From: morgan@dl5000.bc.edu (Morgan Stair)
>>Subject: GUS Compatability
>>Date: 14 Oct 92 16:54:40 GMT
>
>>  Is GUS an SB Pro compatable card?
>
>>  From the way this card is described
>>why couldn't a driver be written for it to emulate an SBpro, SB16 or
>>an AdLib Gold card?
>
>Good point....  any comments???

They are supposed to be working on the SB Pro.  I assume that they will do
the others if there is a demand.  And I assume there will be a demand.

-- 
=============================================================================
Mark Harrison           |  "We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
harrison@sun.lclark.edu |   Our great computers fill the hallowed halls."
              -- Me     |                                    -- Rush
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting)
Subject: Re: GUS comments
Keywords: GUS
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:19:30 GMT

ejohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (I seem to be a verb) writes:


>Could one of you ever-so-popular (and damn lucky) GUS owners tell
>me if it comes with SB-Pro emulation?  I've read a few threads about
>SB-Pro emulation being added.  Please post replies.
Afraid not. It only comes with the basic SB emulation. Which it does quite
well, I must add. 

>Thanks,

>Erik

>--------------------------------------------
>Looking him straight in the eye, Jesus said,
>"Use the Force, Luke!"
>                        - R.A. Wilson
>------- ejohnson@polyslo.calpoly.edu -------


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From: nite@zombie (Hannu Kotipalo)
Subject: Re: Is the ECA offer for the UltraSound still valid?
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:41:10 GMT


: I've seen posted on it.  The number for ECA is 1-800-245-4525 and you get the

Does ECA have a fax number? If does not, please could somebody give us their
address..
From: ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Questions for GUS owners!!!
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:18:24 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <dedmunds.718569979@sfu.ca>, dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundso
n) writes:
>ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach) writes:
>
>>2. What is the SoundBlaster emulation like? (I did read
>>   Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting's post, BTW)
>
>Overall, the emulation is pretty good.  In all honesty, it does NOT sound
>as good as a real SB but since it is an emulator, I guess this is to be
>expected.
>
>What the card does have is fantastic potential.  Now we just need a vocal
>GUS lobby to push software developers to support the card.  The support
>of the GUS by Electronic Arts is a major achievement which will hopefully
>catch on.
>
>If you want the best sound for existing games, buy a SoundBlaster (or ATI
>etc.).  However, if you want to buy into the future (at an emminently
>reasonable price), get yourself a GUS.
>
>Just my $.02 worth of opinions and hopes.
>--
>
>Darran Edmundson
>darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca
>

And where does the Roland fit in all this? The middle???
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Subject: Re: sb16=roland!!
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:35:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.223527.578@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~) writes:
>From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
>Subject: sb16=roland!!
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:35:27 GMT
>
>I just Dave at creative Tech support, he said the sb16 is lapc
>compatable...Fantastic...It is worth the wait now!!!

How can that be? The Roland LAPC-1/CM-32 series use LA-synthesis, while the 
SB 16 (surely) will use FM-synthesis! Are you sure he didn't just mean the 
MIDI-option will be MPU-401 compatible?

    -=* Bjorn :: bjornhk@sofus.dhhalden.no
  ACCESS DATA :: TEL: (+47)-9-17 50 48/61-97 791 FAX: 61-97 791
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From: alvin@netcom.com (Alvin H. White)
Subject: Re: DSP on disk recordings
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:26:23 GMT

johnf@scd.hp.com (John Flowers) writes:

>Ok, now that I have a PAS 16, I would like to record something, then
>play it back pitch shifted but with the same tempo.  This would require
>some sort of digital signal processing.

>I am an electrical engineer and programmer, so what I need to hear/read
>about is the function that would either be done in software or on some
>DSP chip I could port on a board in my PC.

>This would follow the thread on simultaneous playback and record, a sort
>of realtime harmonizer.  But since I don't have such a beast, I posted
>this as a seperate message.

>--
>*********************************************************************
>*   John P. Flowers            _\|/_______________________          *
>*   johnf@scd.hp.com            /|\ We can tell how                 *
>*   HP Santa Clara Division         far gone you are!               * 
>*   Laser R&D                                                       *
>*   q: What's the difference between hardware and software ?        *
>*   a: You can't kick the software.....                             *
>*********************************************************************

Some time back I was studying the problem of time change without pitch
change. As I vaguely understand it pitch change without time change is
near the other side of the coin.  I eventually wound up downloading
big code from MIT called csound that had in it PHASE VOCODER sections.

Prior to that I had purchased a book approximately called ELEMENTS OF
COMPUTER MUSIC by F. Richard Moore or Moores at San Diego State Univ.
and he discussed phase vocoder code and cmusic.

Later I saw a person at Mills College in Oakland made available some
phase vocoder stuff for Mac but I use ibm clone and although I 
downloaded, actually ftp'ed, the programs I was never able to look
at it. It may have been a mac exe file encoded in sit or hqx.
  
I am not a programmer and was never able to do anything with the
code which is who knows where now but I bet the csound stuff is
ftp'able in seconds if one could find the name of the machine
and the directory.

I wanted to make two text to speech files in two different languages
on a word for word or close time adjusted basis and output them
simultaneously in stereo. I hope your research echos back to the
group help in that direction.

Incidently there is a new news group called comp.speech that has some
writers who are very knowledgeable about computer sound but maybe a
little too specialized to do much music.

Good Luck.


alvin

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.os2.apps
From: ketrenoj@ucs.orst.edu (Lord Logics)
Subject: Re: Sound cards for OS/2
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:37:05 GMT

] From: baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin)
] So far, I don't think (I'm no authority by any means.. not much OS/2
] experience) ANY sound cards are supported.

... i'm not sure if any programs support it or not, but on one of the various
FTP sites (don't recall which one) i came across a file SBPPW.ZIP, and the
little text file for it listed it as: OS/2 Sound Blaster driver.  don't know
what good it would do to have the driver tho since OS/2 isn't currently
multi-media.  oh well.

as for playing mods under OS/2 (or Windows w/out WinMod) u can use TrackBlaster
w/ no graphics, or Sound System, or PlayMod (NOT ModPlay)... those three all
use the IRQ instead of the timer to do the timing, and will play under multi-
threading systems.  Timer based players won't play (or if they do,they sound
bad and will most likely lock up the CPU)...  you can generally tell what 
method a player uses by what output it supports.  if it only supports the
Sound Blaster or the PAS-16 (or the new Gravis) then its most likely IRQ, if
it supports the speaker or any lpt devices then its fairly safe to say its
timer based...

l8r-

James
ketrenoj@ucs.orst.edu
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Warning: possible incompatibility - GUS and OS/2 2.0
Date: 9 Oct 1992 18:31:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

You are trying to play sounds under OS/2 without a GUS OS/2 driver?
As of the current version 2.0 of OS/2, it doesn't mix with sound very
well period. I tried to play simple sounds off the PC speakers which
works fine under DOS but bombed big time under OS/2. I think like
Windows, we need a PC speaker driver for OS/2 before we can do that so I
put that off. But others have reported the SoundBlaster driver for OS/2
works fine. But I'll wait till the end of the year when IBM comes out
with OS/2 version 2.01 with the multimedia and Win 3.1 patch or fix
before I get too worry. Remember, both Windows and OS/2 need drivers
before you can play sounds. So I guess we'll have to wait till Gravis
comes with and OS/2 driver or the OS/2 patch might have a GUS driver?

If you really want to play with it, you might try loading the
SoundBlaster driver for OS/2 first, then SB TSR for GUS under a DOS
window. Then perhaps OS/2 will pass sounds along to its SB driver and
SBOS will grab it and redirect it the GUS. But I won't bet on it.

Thomas.
From: bprk_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Brian Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games;,rec.games.misc;,misc.forsale;,misc.forsale.computers;,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: FOR SALE:  PC games, hardware
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:23:16 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Hello all,

   Please let me know if you see anything you like.  I'd prefer to trade, but
if you're a buyer, all prices are negotiable.  Shipping is included.

GAMES							 disk format	price
-----							 -----------	-----
BattleChess II : Chinese Chess  (Interplay)			both	$15
Corporation  (Virgin Mastertronics)				both	$15
Earl Weaver Baseball (not EWBII)  (Electronic Arts)		5.25	$10
King's Quest IV	 (Sierra On-Line)				 3.5	$12
   original docs, no box
King's Quest V	(Sierra On-Line; VGA 256 colors)		 3.5	$28
   hint book too
Leisure Suit Larry V  (Sierra On-Line; VGA 256 colors)		 3.5	$25
Martian Memorandum  (Access; VGA 256 colors, RealSound)		 3.5	$25
Police Quest I  (Sierra On-Line)				 3.5	$10
   original docs, no box
Police Quest II  (Sierra On-Line)				 3.5	$12
   original docs, no box
Rise of the Dragon  (Dynamix; VGA 256 colors)			 3.5	$25
Space Quest I  (Sierra On-Line)					 3.5	$10
   original docs, no box
SSI Dungeons & Dragons Triple Pack - no cover			5.25	$25
   Dragons of Flame
   Heroes of the Lance
   Hillsfar
Stunts  (Broderbund; VGA 256 colors)				both	$15
The Terminator  (Bethesda Softworks; VGA)			5.25	$25

   As for trades, I'm looking in particular for Airborne Ranger (still) and
the Special Operations to WCII, but all offers are welcome.

-----

Media Vision Thunder Board
   100% SoundBlaster and AdLib compatible, etc. etc. etc.
   about 6 mos. old, comes in original box, w/ all software + docs
   $75, including shipping

Kraft Game Card
   one joystick port, handles anything up to 33 Mhz.  Reliable.
   also only 6 mos. old
   $12, including shipping

I also have a Video Seven 'VEGA' VGA card
   8-bit, has 256K
   does 320x200x256, 640x480x16, 800x600x16
   hardware mode switching

I wouldn't use it for Windows, but it'd work fine in a 286 or 386SX for
games and such.  Only been used two weeks, while I RMA'd my Diamond Stealth.
I'd like to get around $40 for it, incl. shipping, negotiable.

Thanks,

Brian Park
bprk_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.os2.apps
From: tom@anl433.uucp (Tom Leitner)
Subject: Re: Sound cards for OS/2
Organization: Technical University of Graz, Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:12:11 GMT

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
: In article <1992Oct11.193546.10964@news.columbia.edu> mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:
: >
: >What sound cards are supported under OS/2?
: >What drivers are available for OS/2?
: >Does the PAS 16 have a driver giving full compatibilty to all programs, for
: >PAS and soundblaster support?
: >Where do I get the driver?
: 
: Under the WIN-OS2 3.1 package (coming soon), you'll have the
: MS-MultiMedia extensions, and will be able to use a sound card with
: Win-MM apps. 
: 
: Under OS/2, either your app will have to manually get at the SB (I
: think it can be done) or you'll have to install IBM's MultiMedia kit
: (MMPM/2) which is the approved way to getting sound out.

In comp.os.os2.programmer a Soundblaster Beta Driver for OS/2 was announced
which doesnt require the MMPM2. 

It can be found at:

astro.as.arizona.edu [128.196.176.1]

in the directory /pub/SBOS2. Look for the file sbos2v09.zoo.

Hope that helps -- Tom Leitner, Austria
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Ultrasound - 2 left - 1 with 256 K and 1 with 1 Meg
Date: 16 Oct 1992 23:05:21 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca


Hi everyone. I just found out that Megatronics Computers Ltd

3243 Main Street, Vancouver, B.C., V5V 3M6.
Phone: (604)876-8855, Fax: (604) 876-8779
Hours: Mon-Sat 10-7, Sun 12-5

has 2 Ultrasound left.

One has 256 Kb onboard and the other has 1 Meg onboard.
Don't know about the prices.

Thomas.

P.S.
So there are ones with 1Meg being sold!!
From: sherman@ecadsr.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Apparent PAS16 failure ... any others?
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:28:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: engage.1992Oct8.213724.3834
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Thanks for the feedback!  I wound up setting the PAS16 non-SB side to DMA 5
and IRQ 10.  It "works", but it broke the MV mixers in Windows.  But, it was
necessary since I have the scanner on 3 and 3.  

Also, I found out that MIDImate version 1.0 doesn't work, which is the version
I have.  So, MV is going to replace a chip in it for me.  I'll be sending that
off soon.  Apparently, version 1.0 MIDI IN doesn't work with the latest stuff.

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: schles@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (COMP NERDS R US)
Subject: PD Voc player
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:27:46 GMT

Question - I bought a MediaVision Thunderboard used and I didn't get the
software.  Is there a pd voc player for dos or windows? - Phil

-- 
Philip Schlesinger                         schles@cs.jhu.edu
------------------------------------------------------------
"How'd you get that Cray II to run slower than my old C-64?"
"Oh, that took a bit of doing.  Take a look at /bin/session"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit)
Subject: Re: MOD/STM converter wanted
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:03:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.064515.28972@Princeton.EDU> aruggeri@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anthony Robert Ruggeri) writes:
>I've been looking for some program that can interconvert MOD and STM format
>files, with as yet no success.  Although Scream Tracker itself can read
>Amiga .MODs and I've seen a utility to do a similar conversion, I have yet
>to find a utility which will convert STMs to MODs.  Does anyone know
>of such a program, and if so, where it can be found?  Since I often use
>ScreamTracker but STM files are not nearly as well supported by players as
>MODs this capability is practically a necessity!

There is a program called STMTOMOD or some such.  It worked for most .STMs
I had lying around, although several got munged in the process.  I'm
not sure what ftp sites may have it, but I'm sure Archie knows.  Look for
stmtomod or maybe stm2mod.

mad Poo bandit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark W. Fleig)
Subject: Re: GUS: Latest EA shipping info.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:22:12 GMT

In article <Bw6Cnn.8Kv@ais.org> impster@ais.org (Charles Budensiek) writes:
>I called Electronic Arts today <Oct. 15th> and was told that they shoudl be
>shipping the GUS to me this Monday. Then we'll know just how bad this thing
>performs on a 16 MHz 80286 with 1 meg of memory.. :)
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, me and my 20mhz 286 feel a little better now. I'll be in the
first batch of EA recipients as well, and with any luck we'll know for
sure on monday or tuesday. In fact I just nabbed my MT-32 back after
loaning it to someone for several months. Should make for a nice
little comparison, what?

Falcon3 users: will I need expanded mem for music And speech? My
little 4meg o' extended works well for practical applications, but I'm
dying to hear some vocality from my wingmen as I fail to cover their
tail.  8\

-mark

-- 
,----------------------------. "Therefore, make peace with your god, whatever
: Mark Fleig                  \  you conceive him to be. Hairy thunderer, or
: mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu\  cosmic muffin. With all its hope and renewal,
`-------------------------------' the world continues to deteriorate. Give up."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi (Antti Peltonen)
Subject: MIDI connect. of GUS ?
Organization: ATK-keskus
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:31:11 GMT

Hello all happy (?) GUS owners,

I did read from PC-Week that MIDI-kit of GUS is "optional".

Do you have any idea what that means?

Is it some weird GUS to MIDI -cable or what?

Have you looked to connectors of the card and specs?

-Antti-

apeltone@smtplink.oulu.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ap@jyu.fi (Patrick Aalto)
Subject: How to detect between SB (mono) & SB Pro (stereo) ?
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:14:03 GMT

Hi!

I would just like to know, what is the 'industry standard' way to detect
whether a computer has a mono-SB or a stereo-SB (Pro) card. I can detect
the port address and IRQ number in my program, but is it OK to trust that
it is SB Pro if it has the Mixer Chip?

Patrick Aalto
ap@jyu.fi
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: SB and GUS co-exist?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 02:52:27 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <1992Oct11.043617.11702@bnr.ca> tracyb@bnr.ca (Tracy Blomquist) writes:
>Can a regular SB 2.0 and the GUS co-exist on the same bus and
>work?  Rather than have to load the GUS SB emulation TSR, I'd
>like to use the real SB for existing games until the GUS gets
>better support, but I'd like to be able to play with the GUS
>at the same time.
>

I don't see why not. The Ultrasound also takes IRQs above 10 (ie. 286 or
above) so there is plenty for you to choose from without conflicting
with your SB. And since you have to define which soundcard you have
within each game/program, you can choose one or the other.

Thomas.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: nbw1@quads.uchicago.edu 
Subject: Re: GRAVIS ULTRASOUND has shipped to Canada -> ships to US in two weeks
Reply-To: nbw1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:13:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.021204.8531@ee.ubc.ca> chiac@ee.ubc.ca (chia-tung chen) writes:
>I think I can confirm this news. I am in Vancouver, and just phoned 
>Software Alley in Vancouver today. They told me the shipment will be in
>tomorrow morning for it was delayed by several hours on Friday. (Gee. I
>think I'd better sleep outside the store tonight.) They said they have
>only ordered 50 cards (!?# I guess they are not aware how hot this card
>has been talked about.), but I made sure my name is on their list so I
>am guaranteed one card out of that first shipment. 
>
>I feel privileged that people in Vancouver get to have the sound card
>earlier than others, but then I guess afterall, Gravis is a Vancouver
>based company.
>
>We will be willing to share the first hand experience as soon as we have
>the card. (hopefully this time is for real.)
>
>				chia-tung chen
>				chiac@ee.ubc.ca
>

I am purchasing manager of a distribution company and an owner of a
reseller company (WCOM Systems), and folks, I havnt got any Ultrasounds
yet, from gravis, or from many of my distributers for WCOM. That includes
the (infamous) MERISEL. Ok, got it? It HASNT been released as far as i
can tell

Sorry,
nbw1@quads.uchicago.edu
Benjamin I. Williams


and remember......patience is a virtue.
ZZ

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