From: lmk@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Remember Cyprus (was: No! U.N.O! It's too little, too late!)
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:40:17 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

I am glad to hear from a fellow Cypriot, Greek, Turk or other, on the network.
I want to believe that you are sincere in your concerns about the future of
Cyprus.

We, Cypriots, should realize that we should be concerned with the interests and
well being of our island and not with that of Greece or Turkey.  The new
Republic of Cyprus should start on a new basis were there should be respect and
understanding among all the peoples that live there.  Greeks should learn the
Turkish language, unbiased Turkish history and he principles of Islam.  The
same
goes for the Turkish Cypriots and their understanding of Greek history culture
and religion. (You might say that I'm dreaming but, hey..)

What happened in the past should be remembered BUT, from that we should draw
strength for a new beginning rather than build up hate.  Mistakes and crimes I
am sure have been committed by both sides.  I hope we are mature and strong
enough at this point to put things behind us.

Let us all together honor our dead and let us not create any more to honor.

Loukis Kissonergis
West Virginia University
In article <Btz4rn.Jzx@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, bse@sage.cc.purdue.edu
(Besime Erin) writes:
> 
> Oh!!! I am soooo very glad to be back here again!!!!!!! 
> 
> I am also delighted to see that my good friend(?!) Theodore is back too!
> 
> Are you going for your Master's Degree also Theodore ? 
> 
> I figure from our previous discussions that you are my age and that 
> you must have also finished your program with CASP (Cyprus America
> Scholarship Program). 
> 
> Off course this is a personal question and you don't have to answer it
> on the net! But I was curious so I am asking it! 
> 
> How was Cyprus ? Did you have a lot of fun ?
> 
> I know I did although I was there only for a moderately short period of time. 
> 
> So did you also get filled up with more nice and friendly(?!) ideas
> about the Turkish Cypriots and Turkish people in general. 
> 
> Actually, come to think of it, you were pretty FULL when you left (:-)) 
> so you couldn't possibly been filled up with too much more ?!!!!!!
> 
> Anyways, going back to your usual comments !
> 
> 
> In article <1992Aug30.223357.24168@wuecl.wustl.edu> tpd1@cec2.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David) writes:
>>In article <67202@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7242a@prism.gatech.EDU (KHAN,RAHEEL) writes:
>>>              NO! U.N.O! IT'S TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE!
>>>              _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>You must have seen the video pictures of Serbian concentration camps in
>>>which Muslims of Bosnia are kept. They are just like the Nazi concentration 
>>>camps.
>>>
>>  Check : prisons in Adana, Southern Turkey, 1974.
> 
> Hmmm. I guess you are implying Greek Cypriots were in these prisons!
> 
> Any documents or simply anything from other sources to back up these claims ?! 
> 
> Nooo! As usual NONE ! Only mud-throwings ! 
> 
> 
>>
>>>So far 3 million out of 7 million Muslims of Bosnia have been made homeless. 
>>>More than 200,000 are either injured or killed. Thousands of Muslim girls, 
>>>between ages 15 to 20, have been forced into sex slavery of the Serbian army.
>>> 
>>  Check : Cyprus, 1974. The numbers are not that big , but THE PERCENTAGES
>>  are for sure much bigger than those in Bosnia.
>>
> 
> I won't even bother answering this!!
> 
> It's not worth my breath!!!
> 
> Turkey came to STOP the aggression not to start it. However undesirable today's
> situation in Cyprus might be to the Greek Cypriots and may be to some Turkish 
> Cypriots, blood has not been shed on the island for the past 18 years. 
> 
> Before then, ethnic fights were at their peak!!! The lives of 
> the Turkish Cypriots were in danger !
> 
>>>You must have also heard that the United Nations Organization(U.N.O) has once 
>>>again refused to take military actions against the Serbian aggressors.
>>>
>>  Check : Cyprus, 1974. What a coincidence !! UNO has not taken any
>>  military actions against Turkish aggression (for 18 years now).
>>
>>>
>> What's up dudes ? You just found out that history repeats itself?
>>     Remember back in 1974    ? Do you remember Cyprus ? 
>>
> 
> Remembering and reiterating the past will NOT help Theodore! IT simply WILL NOT!
> 
> I want to start WITH A CLEAN SHEET OF PAPER ... 
> 
> I want to think about the FUTURE of Cyprus not its past. 
> 
> I wish to keep the lessons from the painful experiences in the past and 
> benefit from them in the future but I don't want them hinder my vision
> by CONSTANTLY HATING the other side which you seem to be doing!  
> 
> Grow up Theodore! Grow up! THe picture is not black and white its GREY!!!!! 
> 
>>>Raheel Khan
>>
>>Just remember....
>>Theodore David.
>>
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> I only feel sorry for you :-( 
> 
> 
>>* * * * * * * *   CYPRUS IN THE EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY  * * * * * * * * 
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> 
> You are talking about a Cyprus in pieces and shambles! I am not so sure
> that EEC will pick it up for you!
> 
> 
> Besime Erin
> 
> Turkish Cypriot on the net :-)
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