From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Bicycle vs motorcycle flame war, part XXXVII
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:11:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.164544.23348@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.215126.12439@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>|Excellent flame.  I'm sure you burned some disk blocks with that one.
>|Unfortunately, you missed my point.  Maybe I was too terse.  Let's
>|try again:
>
>  No, you were an idiot, jumping to conclusions. 

No, you were an idiot.  And your original post reveals your feeling
that bicycles don't belong on the roads.  You must only ride bicycles
on bike trails.  Try riding the city streets for a while, with cagers and
motorcycles who try to run you down.  Then we'll see if you don't get
annoyed when someone talks about kicking bicycles.


> I think you need to go read
>my original posting again, and not read into it what only *you* read into it.
>
>|If you want people to tolerate motorcycling, what with all the stupidities
>|of the 'loud pipes save lives' crowd, the 105-on-skyline crowd etc.
>|you need to be willing to tolerate the stupidities of other road users.
>
>  Strange, it seems I *did* tolerate the stupidities of the other road users.

No, I think not:
<1992Oct12.210505.14902@megatek.com>
>>> However, I just about got pissed off enough to kick some bicyclists over
>>>the weekend.

That's rather un-tolerant, isn't it?

Then you went on to say:
>>>   Just *whose* idea is it to hold bicycle races on public roads, especially
>>> considering how dangerous it is for the bicyclists on the roads they were

Which implies a willingness to see bicycle races banned from public roads.

>I just publicly wondered about their intelligence, just as I am now publicly
>wondering about yours...

I see.  Anyone who disagrees with you is stupid.  How long have
you had this megalomania?


>|  You were able to buy your ZX11 without passing a qualifications
>|test.
>
>  Buy, yes...  But, "if you've got the money to buy a vehicle, you can use
>it"?   What state do YOU live in that a bill a sale is a license to drive?

What state do YOU live in that has a motorcycle (or car) liscense test
that actually means anything?  To get your california motorcycle
liscsnse, you rode your ZX11 (or a small bike you borrowed for the
purpose) at <10 mph around a circle in the DMV parking lot.  Maybe you
spend lots of time riding circles in parking lots.  Somehow I doubt
it.  I also doubt that riding a circle in a parking lot has much
relation to riding on a real road.  The motorcycle test is quite easy
to pass, and is a minimal test of skill.  Since nearly everyone can
pass the test, the ability to buy a motorcycle is the determining
factor of who will ride.  Therefore, my statement "if you've got the
money to buy a vehicle, you can use it".  I'm sorry if you can't understand
something that simple.




There's lots more of your foul, insulting post that I'd like to
address, but I'm leaving on vacation shortly and I don't have
time.  Maybe we can pick it back up in a few weeks when I get back.
Until then, have a lousy day you vile bag of puss.


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Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
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