HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies)
Subject: Need Esprit 19200 baud termcap!
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:09:40 GMT

I have a hazeltine esprit ESP6110+ terminal here.  It runs H1500
emulation mode, and can run up to 19200 baud in speed.  Here is our
current termcap:

HE|esprit|hazeltine esprit:\
	:am:bs:co#80:li#24:cm=\E^Q%r%>\036\240%+\140%+\140:\
	:al=35\E^Z:dl=35\E^S:cd=10\E^X:ce=\E^O:cl=\E^\:\
	:up=\E^L:do=\E^K:nd=^P:se=\E^Y:so=\E^_:is=\E^Y:

This termcap works well at 9600 baud, but has problems at 19200 baud.
Does anyone know of a termcap that works with this terminal in H1500
mode at 19200 baud?  In particular, when I run nn, the first line or
two of news on every page is scrozzled / truncated.  Perhaps there is
not enough of a pause between the screen erase & the first character
sent afterwards?  Or perhaps nn is using a clear-to-end-of-screen from
the 2nd or 3rd line of the page, and the Esprit in H1500 mode cannot
do this quickly?  If any of the other emulation modes can be used at
19200 baud without these problems, then I'll switch the emulation.  I
can't stand 9600 baud any more....

Please excuse my ignorance of the termcap database (I have never
written a termcap entry before).  Thanks in advance for any help on
this problem!

Don Gillies - gillies@cs.uiuc.edu - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


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Newsgroups: comp.terminals
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Subject: Re: Codonics 1575 Problem
Keywords: text graphics screen intensity
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:09:21 GMT


[stuff about Codonics 1575 deleted]

With all due respect for the poster, this is yet another example of
what you get when you try to make a dumb terminal do something it was
never really designed for in the first place.

I have been inflicted with graphics add-ons for the VT-100, the adm3a,
the adm5 and various WYSE/Codonics stuff.  There are loads of others
out there.  IMHO, they are 99% junk.

The Codonics might well be the best of the lot - too bad they started with
a thoroughly crappy terminal like a WYSE-xx.

To answer the question, we diddled with the 1575 and never really found a GOOD
way to keep the intensities the same between text mode and graphics mode.
I never thought they were really far enough apart to be worth screwing
around with, if possibly only because the stupid WYSE part of the unit
could detonate at any moment.  In this case, I take the approach of if it ain't
really broke, don't try to fix it!  (you might make it WORSE)

If you really want a graphics terminal, BUY A GRAPHICS TERMINAL.  While it
will cost you an arm and a leg, you *might* be better off.  

(and you might not - depends on what you buy.....)

Duane Mantick
Supervisor of Terminal Repair
Engineering Computer Network
Purdue University

Newsgroups: comp.terminals.tty5620
From: nautilus@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (John M. Twilley)
Subject: Re: Layers question.
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:02:46 GMT

In article <19392@smoke.brl.mil> gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes:
>In article <+lz1!a@rpi.edu> nautilus@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (John M. Twilley) writes:
>>I was wondering why layers spends so little time transferring data from
>>host to terminal.  I hooked up a 9600 bps modem, and got no better
>>throughput than I did at 2400.  Help?
>
>If you're using a pty-based layers rather than an xt- or STREAMS-based
>version, the host is being eaten alive by context-switch overhead.
Nope -- xt-based.  Would one of those switches (-h?) help if I put
STREAMS in?
>
>Packet size is also rather small so some of the link bandwidth is
>consumed by packet framing overhead.  I think the 730 supports a
>larger packet size but the host "layers" process might not be using it.
I can't seem to get the packet size to grow -- I don't think the 5620 supports
it.
>
>In the resident terminal emulator mode, the terminal does a lot of work
>per character and so its effective "glass tty" speed is less than one
>would imagine.  This is especially obvious when using Dave Prosser's
>(otherwise very nice) "myx" on a 5620.
Where can I find this "myx"?  Is it vailable from FTP?
>
>I can see a substantial difference between 9600bps and 19200bps links
>between my 630 and a directly-connected Sun-3/50 host.
>
>Note that so-called "9600bps" modems operated over voice-grade phone
>lines, if they depend on statistical data compression, will have less
>effective throughput than that when transmitting random binary data
>instead of highly patterned data.


Also, I often call out from my DMD to other computers through my 3B2.
Does anyone out there have a good terminal program written todo the
following?
 
 - do as much as possible on the DMD's processor, excepting file xfer

 - provide VTx00 emulation (ancorrectly resize the windo, ifnecesarry)

If anyone has any leads, please let me know .....
Jack.
-- 
John M. Twilley             | It's only premarital sex if 
nautilus@acm.rpi.edu        | you're going to get married.
twilley@dewey.nusc.navy.mil |                --anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.terminals.tty5620,comp.terminals
From: sbrenner@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.d.brenner)
Subject: Help! How Can I Run 'layers' on 730 Terminal from Home?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:36:23 GMT


I don't regularly read this group so I apologize if this has
been asked before.

I just brought home an AT&T 730 terminal.  I was able to connect
to my host in the main window.  But when I tried to run layers so
I could have multiple windows, the screen just locked up.  Since 
I know almost nothing about layers, I'm turning to the net for help.
Does anyone know what I should do to get layers to work?  I'm 
logging in at 9600 baud via Datakit.  I invoke layers with the 
following small script: 

	TERM=730
	DMD=/usr/att/630
	DMD630=/usr/att/630
	EXINIT='set ai window=60 number nomesg'
	export TERM DMD DMD630 EXINIT
	layers -f .lay

My ".lay" file contains four lines of the form:

	X   X   X   X   ksh

where 'X' is a window corrdinate.  

Is there something I should include or is there a different way
to invoke layers that would let me have multiple windows?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please respond directly
to sbrenner@attmail.com.

a T d H v A a N n K c S e

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Scott D. Brenner
AT&T Consumer Communications Services
Basking Ridge, NJ
sbrenner@attmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.terminals.tty5620,comp.sys.att
From: nautilus@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (John M. Twilley)
Subject: Layers question.
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:50:10 GMT


I was wondering why layers spends so little time transferring data from
host to terminal.  I hooked up a 9600 bps modem, and got no better
throughput than I did at 2400.  Help?

Jack.
(Also, has anyone written a screen-saver for layers?)
-- 
John M. Twilley             | It's only premarital sex if 
nautilus@acm.rpi.edu        | you're going to get married.
twilley@dewey.nusc.navy.mil |                --anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.terminals.tty5620
From: nautilus@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (John M. Twilley)
Subject: Ghostscript device driver?
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:45:26 GMT


I was wondering if anyone out there knew of a device driver for the
DMD for Ghostscript.  I want to display PoscScript output on my
DMD -- and this is the most recommended method.
 
Jack.
(also looking for myx, btw...)
-- 
John M. Twilley             | It's only premarital sex if 
nautilus@acm.rpi.edu        | you're going to get married.
twilley@dewey.nusc.navy.mil |                --anonymous
From: burrows@sun.bdc.ubc.ca (Jeff Burrows)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Codonics 1575 Problem
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:19:26 GMT
Organization: Zoology, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sun.bcu.ubc.ca
Keywords: text graphics screen intensity


Hi

I have a (Cleveland) Codonics 1575, which toggles between being a text
(Wyse 75) and a graphics (Tektronix 4014) terminal. It's great, except
for one thing: the graphics screen is much dimmer than the text
screen.  This has some irritating consequences.

A) I am continually adjusting the intensity dial as I toggle between
screens.
B) In the day, ambient light really drowns out my graphics, even when
I have intensity cranked.
C) In the evening, when I forget to turn down the intensity before
returning to text, my retinas get nuked.

Nothing in SetUp or the manual seems to apply.
Anybody have suggestions? Mainly on the theme of easy (I'm no
electrician) adjustments to the terminal. Much obliged,

Jeff Burrows                    ____            |   burrows@bcu.ubc.ca
Fisheries Centre, U.B.C.      \/   o\           |                __o
Vancouver, B.C.               /\____/           |              -\<,
Canada, V6T 1Z4                                 |   ..........O / O
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
From: king@hsi.com (Marty King)
Subject: Wyse-185 termcap/terminfo needed
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:29:14 GMT

Would anyone have the termcap or terminfo source entry for a Wyse-185
terminal which they would be able to post or e-mail to me?

Thanks,
Marty
-- 

        Marty King                                       king@hsi.com
        3M Health Information Systems                ...!uunet!hsi!king
From: rh2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Russell E. Hoffman, II)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Tek 4010 Apps?
Date: 22 Nov 92 06:18:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wf3v_vO00WB904C7FF
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Okay folks, I've got a question... What public domain/freeware/gnu products
exist that support the Tektronix 4010/4014 as a display device? The only
thing I have is gnuplot, which works rather well, but it's the only
program I have that I didn't write myself that takes advantage of the
4014 emulation of my Wyse 99GT. So I'd like to know of any sources for
programs that are hiding out there that can make use of a Tek 4014.
Thanks in advance.


Russell Hoffman                 | 1970 Split-Bumper Camaro SS
rh2y+@andrew.cmu.edu            | 406 Small Block   13.5:1 CR 
Carnegie Mellon University      | Tunnel Ram 2x650cfm 4bbl    STREET DRIVEN
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-rwx        1 joe_user                   806 May  1 23:38 file

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w - indicates file can be hosed
x - indicates file contains bugs
From: jcb@pcx.ncd.com (Jim Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Anyone know about NRCS on DEC terminals?
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:43:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: pcx.1992Nov23.214329.6790
Reply-To: jcb@pcx.ncd.com
Organization: NCD PC-Xdivision
Fcc: /eng/jcb/.vmail/.mailsent



I'm  trying  to  tie-down the final logic in a VT320 terminal emulator
I've written, and am getting conflicting notions of how  the  National
Replacement Character Sets are used.. Anyone own up  to  understanding
this?  :)

The  basic understanding problem i have is how the "hardware" keyboard
type and the selection of "software" Character Sets in G0-G3 interact.

From what i understand,  the  input  side  of  translation  always  is
hardwired to the current hardware keyboard type, setup in the NVRAM of
the DEC terminal. So there is always the  twelve  character  remapping
"statically" done  on  the  input  side,  independent  of  application
software.

Assuming  this  is  true,  the question is the effect of Character Set
selection for G0 thru G3 on the output side, and how this affects what
appears  on the screen. And what is the default output when going into
NRCS mode (<ESC>?42h) with all this..

Anyone  out there understand all this? If so please send some email to
enlighten me, thanks a lot!

-jim

--

 -Jim Becker / jcb@pcx.ncd.com / Network Computing Devices, Inc. (NCD)
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.terminals
From: kevin@mpls911.uucp (Kevin Herrboldt)
Subject: Need Info on Two-Session Terminal
Organization: City of Minneapolis
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:53:47 GMT

I'm looking for a terminal with the following characteristics:

     1)  Support for two 80x24 RS232 sessions simultaneously (dual ports).
         The two sessions cannot overlap, and the user must be able to
         hotkey between them.

     2)  Screen saver--terminal MUST wake up when data arrives over ports.

     3)  Cursor-addressing, et al (as in a VT100).

These terminals are to be used for dispatching and must have reasonably large,
easy to read characters.  The terminals currently in use are 13" displays
(AT&T 615's), so the monitor needs to be at least that big.

If anyone knows of any manufacturer who makes such terminals, I would really
appreciate the information.
-- 
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Emergency Communications Center
City Hall Room B-911, Mpls, MN  55415
(612) 348-7216
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
From: mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer)
Subject: TVI 925 & 950
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 22 Nov 1992 16:35:05 UTC

I'd like some information about the 925 and 950. Specifically,
which came first?

I have had a 925 for a long time. A couple weeks ago, I happened
to be in one of the many surplus electronics places when I found
what looked like a group of 3 925s. The first was broken, but
the second one seemed to be in excelent shape. I shorted 2 and 3
on the RS-232 port and sure enough... But the display looked
different. I finally realized that this was a TVI-950. So I grabbed
it (the price was right), and got it home. Now I'm having a hard
time deciding which terminal to use more.

Both seem to have identical electronics, apart from the CPU board,
and those look remarkably similar, except that the 950 is missing
the internal DIP switches. What's worse, the settings of those
switches seems to be just exactly the opposite of how I like it.
Keyclick is on, screenblank is off, attributes are screen instead
of line... All this has me going for the 925 over the 950.

It appears to me that the 950 is an 'upgrade' of the 925, since
the CPU board bears the traces for that internal switch set.
If I could set the options the way I like them (the setup screen
is no help as far as I can tell), I'd chose the 950, but that damn
keyclick is driving me batty, and I bet the lack of screenblank
would kill the phosphor before too long.

-- 
Nick Sayer <mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us> | Nick's rule of hardware customizing:
N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM     | 
37 19 49 N / 121 57 36 W             | The factory settings are never right.
+1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'   |
From: strataki@cerberus.csi.forth.gr (Manolis Stratakis)
Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence
Subject: Verilog LSI/MSI libs?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 10:42:05 GMT
Organization: FORTH - ICS, P.O.Box 1385, Heraklio, Crete, Greece 71110 
       tel: +30(81)221171, 229302 fax: +30(81)229342,3 tlx: 262389 CCI
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cerberus.csi.forth.gr


	Hello,

	does anyone know, if there are any LSI and/or 
	MSI libraries for Verilog, and how could we 
	obtain them?

	Please reply by e-mail.

	Thanks in advance,
	Manolis Stratakis.

Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence
From: morey@cruella.etdesg.trw.com (Mitch Morey R12/2623 x25167)
Subject: Relabel wire names
Originator: morey@
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:03:03 GMT

To Whomever can help me:

This may be a dumb question, but no question is dumb if it has a profitable
answer.  Is there a way inside Concept to make a list of single-net-pins?
Or is there a command line feature somewhere?

Also, how do I repackage successfully to change the net names character from
20 to 12 but to not re-reference my devices that are soft located? Which one of the state files do I need to delete to get it to relabel nets?

Mitch Morey at uunet!donald.etdesg.TRW.COM!morey@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence
From: clifs@netcom.com (Clif Schieck)
Subject: Re: edifout problem - schematics
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:29:17 GMT

In article <BxyrIF.6J4@newcastle.ac.uk> Albert.Koelmans@newcastle.ac.uk (Albert Koelmans) writes:
>
>I've been trying to generate edif output from schematics without much
>success. The program complains it can't fine 'ipin', 'opin' etc., even if I
>copy the schematics for them from the library into my own directory.
>
>Has anyone seen this problem before? Any pointers on how to get round it? Any
>help would be very appreciated since the problem is holding us up.
>
>Thanks
>
>Albert
>
>--
>
>E-mail address:  Albert.Koelmans@newcastle.ac.uk
>Computing Science Department, University of Newcastle upon Tyne,
>Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK (telephone +44 091-2228155,fax 2228232) 

You are missing the basic library in your edif path variable found
in the edifOut.il. Add the path to this basic library and try again.

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From: Albert.Koelmans@newcastle.ac.uk (Albert Koelmans)
Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence
Subject: Re: edifout problem - schematics
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:23:40 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

parviz.fariborz@analog.com writes:

>The ipin, opin and iopin are the cells for the Cadence's input, output and
>io ports. They are in a library named basic that Cadence ships out with the
>software. You need to set your library path to the directory where the basic
>library is located.

The problem is that there are two libraries: one Cadence, and two Mietec. I
haven't been able to get edifout to search them both. If I set the library
path as you suggest it can't find the other one (I've tried it).

Thanks for the suggestion anyway.

Albert...

--

E-mail address:  Albert.Koelmans@newcastle.ac.uk
Computing Science Department, University of Newcastle upon Tyne,
Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK (telephone +44 091-2228155,fax 2228232) 
Xref: sparky comp.cad.cadence:499 comp.text.frame:3430
From: cwp@idtinc.UUCP (Chuck Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence,comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: FrameMaker
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:14:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.cad.cadence
Organization: Integrated Device Technology, Santa Clara

In article <4046@phred.UUCP> kimb@phred.UUCP writes:

Lots deleted to save space.

>
>	I am still confused.  If I have 20 FrameMaker and 10 FrameView
>licenses, and I have 10 FrameView/Cadence from Cadence.  When you run
>Frame the path set by FMHOME is where the license is found.  So, you either
>use all FrameView/Cadence or all the other, but you can not add or
>combine.  I guess a script would have to be set to start Cadence setting
>the FMHOME for the session.  THIS SUCKS.
>
>Please correct me if I am wrong in my thinking.  
>
>Thanks, Kim Butler

Cadence has paid boo-coo bucks to Frame to allow Cadence to incorporate
the FrameViewer product into the Cadence toolset. However, (any Cadence
people who know may feel free to correct this if I have remembered it
wrong) the contract basically states that the FrameViewer that Cadence
uses in its toolset is not to be used as a stand alone product. It can
only be used in conjunction with Cadence's Design Framework II.

On the other hand, (at least in Opus 4.0 - I have not tried it in 4.2 or
4.2.1) you can buy FrameViewer or FrameMaker directly from Frame and use
it with the Cadence toolset rather than the one Cadence provides. I do
not remember the setup needed but I recall that you not only need to set
FMHOME but some other variable as well as add some lines to the .cdsinit
file. The CRC should have the needed info to help you get set up. (The
CRC number is 1-800-223-3622 or 1-800-CADENC2.) 

Lastly, I do not usually deal with the contracts and money end but I
believe that the FrameViewer from Cadence is a no-charge item and can
not be discounted from your license fee. So as long as you have them
available you might as well use them. Just find out which users are not
interested in using Frame for anything other than Cadence and have them
set up to look only at the Cadence FrameViewer. That way your other
Frame licenses are free for other people outside of Cadence users.


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Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence,comp.text.frame
From: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker
Reply-To: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Merrimack, NH
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:51:43 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.184923.24189@venus.ic.cmc.ca>, pas@jupitercmc.ca (Peter Stokes) writes:
|>Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence,comp.text.frame
|>|> 
|>|> Recently, i was given this article:
|>|> 
|>|> Hi.  I have a large software application installed on my
|>|> system from Cadence Design Systems.   It is a IC design tool
|>|> and all documentation is online in Frame format.   
|>|> The problem is I have been unable to use Frame Viewer from 
|>|> outside the Cadence tool framework.
|>|> My questions:
|>|> Is Frame Viewer licensed?   Where is the license file?
|>|> >>Is it possible to use viewer as I wish?   What's the trick?
|>|> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|>|> >>Peter A. Stokes ~~~~~~~~ pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca ~~~~~~~ (613) 545-2923 ~~~~~
|>|> 

	This maybe unrelated... but here it goes...
	I use Cadence's product called openbook to view documentation
	outside of any of the Cadence products.  I am using the Cadence/Valid
	software if that makes a difference...

	- Kathi
Xref: sparky comp.cad.cadence:507 comp.text.frame:3446
From: markg@gvgdsd.GVG.TEK.COM (Mark Gydesen)
Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence,comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: FrameMaker
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:52:27 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgdsd.gvg.tek.com

In article <4046@phred.UUCP> kimb@phred.UUCP writes:
>
>Recently, i was given this article:...
>>licensees to use the FrameViewer distributed by Cadence to do anything 
>>Michele Vening
>Now my response:
>the FMHOME for the session.  THIS SUCKS.
>Thanks, Kim Butler

Here are some ideas, don't know if they will work for you, but we have used this
for license conflicts of other products using highland license manager.

set the LM_LICENSE_FILE env variable to multiple paths separated by a :

ie setenv LM_LICENSE_FILE /usr/local/FRAME:/usr/cds/frame

 or

setup aliases that swap the license or fmhome variable depending on which tool
environment you want to use.

ie.
alias maker 'setenv LM_LICENSE_FILE /usr/local/FRAME ; maker ; unsetenv
LM_LICENSE_FILE /usr/local/FRAME'

The above alias should all be on one line.
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