From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Not!! (Was Re: New newsgroup for the military diehards?)
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:17:42 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Sep29.220531.25973@news.iastate.edu>, ongh@iastate.edu (NightOwl) writes:
> I've been reading s.c.a. and have been totally annoyed ..well....more like 
> irritated that there have been so many postings about Mig29s and F16s.

	Go learn about killfiles and the "n" key.  And careful about that
annoyance factor.  Stress kills, you know.

> So how does a new newsgroup get started anyway? I think that it's only 
> appropriate to call it alt.military-weapons.fighterjets.asean ?

	Go read news.answers.  That's what I suggest to all net-newbies.  Tells
you how to create your own newsgroup too, if you are so inclined.  The article
you are interested in is net-etiquette and news.answers.answers (take a look
around, I may have mixed up the filenames, been a long time since I last
looked)
> 
> If I'm not wrong, s.c.a stands for social.culture.asean ...culture, 
> nothing to do with weapons, eh?.

	Au contraire, my dear Watson.  Silat's part of the Malay culture,
right?  And silat uses keris.  Go tell me that's not weapon.  Look at the
British upperclass culture (before the 20th century).  If you insult
someone, they will "Demand Satisfaction", which will result in a duel.  No
weapons?  Yeah, right.

> And when asked to talk about some other subjects, how often do we hear the
> subject "f-o-o-d" coming up? It seems like there is nothing else interesting
> in the asean region that is really worth talking about except food. Interesting

	There is.  We are just waiting for someone right to come along and
bring it up.  And what's wrong with food?  What we need now is some lovely
recipes instead of someone complaining that we talk about food all the time.
> 
> How about stuff like social issues? Like how in this part of the world are 
> liberal views taken? Are we still as conservative as the Westerners see
> us? etc....

	So?  Talk about it!  Talking about talking about it is like pissing at
the wind at best (to quote someone... :) :))  You don't have to tell other
people you want to talk about it.  Just talk.  If it is interesting (or
inflammable :) :)) people will naturally followup.

<soap box please>
<thank you>
[stands on soapbox]

Yo dudes and dudettes,
	Since our countries are spending so much of our tax monies on defense,
the least we can do is to know what the hell they are spending it on, and why. 
Ignoring something like this will not be beneficial at all.  Those people
screaming at this thread are like the DAP (that's a local political party for
those not in the know), screaming at all and sundry, with no action to follow
suit.  Note that our country is thinking about sending some soldiers to Bosnia. 
How do you know if that decision is wise without knowing what the hell is going
on?  Same thing with the planes.
	Thank you for your time and attention.

[steps off the soap box]
[slips and falls on my gluteus maximus]
<darn, next time I will use a non-slip box>

	I must admit tho, the flame war was very very boring tho...  Thank god
most of us escaped unscathed...  And it did gave one of us a chance to show off
his literary skills...  Impressive too.  If only people here would post stories
about South East Asia, or the ones that they have written.
	Oh well, back to my books...  Ciao.

-Tai