HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Subject: Re: 131.550 (?)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:05:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.012537.11495@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rdale@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert P Dale) writes:
>On listening to 131.550MHz in the Toledo OH area I hear a lot of
>quick data transmissions, most less than 1/2 sec (a few last 1-2 secs)
>24 hours a day.  Probably get a transmission every 3-5 seconds.
>
>Anyone have an idea on what I'm receiving?
>
The frequency you mention is in the aircraft band. You are probably listening
to packet transmissions. The airlines use packet radio to send connecting gate
information and other things to the aircraft en route. Try listening in the
two meter ham band (try 145.01 and 145.09). If it sounds the same, you are
hearing packet. 


-- 
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(415) 903-3832 wk  "Get rid of the bums!"   (408) 253 4541 fax
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanners 'exposed' on 20/20....
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:24:24 GMT
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

Could anybody tell me if the 20/20 show (the guy listening with the
scanner) is worth trying to obtain/purchase/etc. on tape?

Brad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
From: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Joe J Retzer)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-2006
Date: 8 Oct 1992 21:01:24 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu

The RS Pro-2006 covers the freqs:

		 25-520
		 760-823
		 851-868
		 896-1300

I know there is a mod which will allow for continuous coverage from
760 to 1300, my questions are :

	 (1) Is there any way of restoring the 520-760 gap, allowing
	     for contiuous coverage from 25-1300? 

         (2) What exactly is in this range, ie. is it worth worrying
	     about?

                                    Many Thanks in Advance,
					Joe Retzer
					  N9QXL
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Subject: Re: Scanner Ban is now law (Cellular coverage that is)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:03:32 GMT
 
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

The manager mentioned he was a ham and that some states currently do not
allow scanners in mobile vehicles.  He claimed he had a portable ham
receiver (transmitter too??) that could also receive other than ham
bands. He is a licensed ham so he can legally carry it in the car.
However, if his ham receiver can also act as a scanner could he be
arrested in one of those states that prohibits mobile scanners?  Good
question folks.

Regards.
From: rpo@trsvax.tandy.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 43 charger (and Ni-Cds in G
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:28:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:beagle:718818670:trsvax:1231767299:000:789
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!rpo    Oct 16 13:28:00 1992


The PRO-43 has no "charging circuit." The CHG jack has only
a series resistor to limit voltage/current. This is why the
general-purpose power adapter does not charge the batteries
properly (and can even overcharge and damage the batteries).
The recommended charger has a voltage/current curve that is
matched to the scanner's resistor and number of nicads, and
should properly charge the batteries with no problems.

We've had a lot of units in for repair that had the resistor
fried by adapters that could supply too much current (i.e. the 
adapter's voltage did not drop at the higher-current demands of
initial charging...the resistor had to drop all of the voltage, 
and couldn't).

I agree, however, that an external charger is the best solution.

Paul Opitz
Radio Shack Publications
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: Bill to prohibit cellular scanners/receivers
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:02:41 GMT

In article <1b4l88INN5ol@roche.csl.sri.com> dstine@cisco.com (David Stine) writes:
>Apparently, the paternalistic liberal cabal is about to pass and send onto the
>President a bill which would prohibit any reception device capable of
>receiving in the cellular band.
>
>Does anyone have the bill number on this legislation? Please email, as I"m
>going to call my SenatKritters today.

Too late, it has already been sent to and signed by Bush as reported in 
Friday's NY Times.

By the way, as I recall the bill did not IMMEDIATELY impose a ban, but
in fact gave the FCC either a 1/2 or a full year to come up with the
technical requirements and means to impliment a the ban.  So....If I
were a scanner manufacturer I'd be making a batch of "still legal"
scanners with the cellular to have available for the immediate future.

I wonder if we'll see sales pitches in some of the hobby publications
making a pitch to buy the XYZ scanner while it is still available with
cellular coverage ability.

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: dem@meaddata.com (David Myers)
Subject: Re: Pro 43 charger
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:45:48 GMT
Distribution: usa

dbm> In the past I have seen postings about this subject and the short
dbm> operating time has been blaimed on the incorect charger. Has
dbm> anyone else had this problem aftr getting the correct charger?

   I haven't timed how much operating time I get with the correct
charger, but it isn't terribly long, either.  There isn't much warning
before the batteries die, either.  One or two warning beeps and then
things go dead.  I know nicads die quicker, but this is real quick.  I
find that checking the intensity of the backlight gives you a decent
indication of how much charge is left.

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: What about existing Cellular Scanners?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:29:15 GMT

In article <15304@claris.com> James_Zuchelli@qm.claris.com (James Zuchelli) writes:
>Does anyone know what the new anti cellular-scanner law says about existing
>scanners?  Is mine suddenly worth its weight in gold?  Do I have to get ROM
>upgrade to remain legal?

Assuming the law was passed with the same language it had about a year ago,
your scanner is still perfectly legal to have/own/sell/etc.  The "ban"
is on the manufacture and sale of new equipment AND the ban would not
take affect for either 1/2 year or possibly a full year.  The time delay
was put in the bill to provide the FCC with sufficient time to come
up with the legal technical requirements for scanners that can not
be modified.  Again, even after the time period delay, the law would not
make your existing scanner illegal.

Will your scanner be "worth its weight in gold?"  Maybe, depends on how
many folks really want the cellular coverage AND how easy it may be
to obtain or build a simple broadband frequency converter which
would change any received frequency by a 100 or so mhz.  (eg. then the
received cellular into the broadbrand freq. converter of 800mhz
would come out at 700 mhz and be readily receivable by an unmodified
scanner that didn't include the cellular coverage.>

>And yes, lets get a copy of the bill number so we can all read the law and 
>see just how bad/good it is.  Maybe it has a loophole for those who listen
>to cellular (I don't.)

The legislation said nothing about listening as that is already
covered (made illlegal) by the ECPA.

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: Scanner Ban is now law (Cellular coverage that is)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:55:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.210332.6747@col.hp.com> tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke) writes:
>The manager mentioned he was a ham and that some states currently do not
>allow scanners in mobile vehicles.  He claimed he had a portable ham
>receiver (transmitter too??) that could also receive other than ham
>bands. He is a licensed ham so he can legally carry it in the car.
>However, if his ham receiver can also act as a scanner could he be
>arrested in one of those states that prohibits mobile scanners?  Good
>question folks.

To the best of my knowledge, at this time, the few states that prohibit
scanners in automobiles all have an exemption for anyone that is a ham
radio operator.  Kentucky was the last state with a scanner ban in
autos that has now exempted that law as it would affect hams.

The ham exemption is not always universal.  For example, I believe
Michigan exempts all hams except those with a novice license.

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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Pro 43 charger
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:02:06 GMT

dem@meaddata.com (David Myers) writes:
: dbm> In the past I have seen postings about this subject and the short
: dbm> operating time has been blaimed on the incorect charger. Has
: dbm> anyone else had this problem aftr getting the correct charger?
: 
:    I haven't timed how much operating time I get with the correct
: charger, but it isn't terribly long, either.  There isn't much warning
: before the batteries die, either.  One or two warning beeps and then
: things go dead.  I know nicads die quicker, but this is real quick.  I
: find that checking the intensity of the backlight gives you a decent
: indication of how much charge is left.

From your description, you have at least one bad battery. Good nicads do
not die that quickly.

Bill
From: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cellular (sp!) antennas on scanners
Date: 16 Oct 1992 16:51:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, dheisler@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Dave Heisler) says:

>For the what it is worth dept. I have seen local radio
>radio shacks put on their "high gain cell phone" antenna
>on their scanners. (BNC connector) Any comments on how it works?
>(for 800 mhz scanning)
>
>for the esthetic group, i think it looks good too.
>
>BTW, will grove carry the pro-39? (pro-43 less military
>air)
>
>dave
>

I have used a CB antenna with a BNC-PL259 adaptor.  It works great.  As far
as cellular, I dont see why it wouldnt.

-- 
The Last thing we look at, is the color of skin.
The first thing we notice is the beauty within.
We shall be free.                                  -Garth Brooks
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: dplumb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Dave Plumb)
Subject: : Please Help                           
Cc: dplumb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: dplumb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:06:39 +0000

> to do with the froup, and to make matter worse, TWO idiots (so far, not 
> counting myself) have gone ahead and replied with FULL QUOTING!!!!!!!!!! 
I wondered about that too - some of us have to pay to access newsgroups...
From: re_sims@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:40:52 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <40600001@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>, kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
>               Please answer these 9 questions and return.
> 
> 1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?




WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH SCANNERS, OR FOR 
THAT MATTER ANY RADIO EQUIPMENT, IF BELONGS IN
A DIFFERENT HEADING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!











> Yes                  [ ]
> Sometimes            [ ]
> No                   [ ]
> Haven't heard enough [ ]
> Other                [ ]
> 
> 2.) Are you pro choice?
> Yes                  [ ]
> Sometimes            [ ]
> No                   [ ]
> Haven't heard enough [ ]
> Other                [ ]
> 
> 3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
> Yes                  [ ]
> Sometimes            [ ]
> No                   [ ]
> Haven't heard enough [ ]
> Other                [ ]
> 
> 4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
> rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
> Yes                  [ ]
> Sometimes            [ ]
> No                   [ ]
> Haven't heard enough [ ]
> Other                [ ]
> 
> 5.) What sex are you?
> Male               [ ]
> Female             [ ]
> 
> 6.) How old are you?
> Under 18           [ ]
> 19 to 65           [ ]
> Over 65            [ ]
> 
> 7.) What religion are you?
> Protestant         [ ]
> Catholic           [ ]
> Jewish             [ ]
> Other              [ ]
> 
> 8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
> Democratic         [ ]
> Republican         [ ]
> Other              [ ]
> 
> 9.) How many years of education have you completed?
> Grade School       [ ]
> High School        [ ]
> College            [ ]
> More               [ ]
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: st1td@rosie.uh.edu (Mucker, Matthew R.)
Subject: Building a receiver revisited
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:40:00 GMT

Well, after only one day, my post about building receivers has had no answers
but three "forward what you get to me!" responses.

So I'll try another tactic.  If any of you have any scanner schematics and
would be willing to mail them to me (so I can get an idea of what's in the
guts of these babies), please E-mail me and I'll send you my address.

thanks!
From: djc@terapin.com (Don Coco)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: REstriction!
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:49:32 GMT
Organization: BBS

Well I have a pro 34 here which has never had any mods done to it.  I feel the
restriction of the cellular band is totally foolish.  In an area such as The
Bay Area we have at least a hundred channels probably of Cellular conversations
at rush hour and one can't follow the conversation.  I mean really!  If the
cellular companies are worried about my listening habbits, I suggest they
scramble the conversations.  I have listened to comms since 64.  I have always
felt that the FCC's restriction of the Airwaves is foolish.  We should have the
right to listen to anything out their.  No I am not going to give up my right
to own a scanner just because Congress now doesn't want me or you to listen! 
What will they think of next?
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: "peter dougherty" <peter.dougherty@canrem.com>
Subject: cellular interception
Reply-To: "peter dougherty" <peter.dougherty@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:03:14 EST

WS>In article <1992Oct4.2571.1474@dosgate> "peter dougherty" <peter.dougherty@ca
  >m.com> writes:
  >>So in short, remember there is absolutely NO limit in Canada as to what you
  >>can legally receive on your scanner (radar detectors, sadly, are another
  >>matter, sigh...), but there ARE laws to prevent you from divulging what you
  >>hear.  However, they are strictly unenforceable.  Thus the Quebec ruling.

WS>What about having a scanner or some kind of narrow-band receiver that lets
  >you hear police freq's in your car?  Are police-reception radios in you car
  >legal?

See above reference.  If it transmits, you can legally receive it, unless "it"
is a police speed-measuring radar device.   Period.  Cops, including the RCMP
CSIS, OPP are all fine.  In Canada there are no monitoring laws, at least
a) not to my knowledge and b) not that would be enforceable, based on the
Radiocommunications Act.  Mobile, hand-held, fixed-location; doesn't matter.

Enjoy!

Peter
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From: wally@mik.uky.edu (walter francis)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FTP site for modification files..
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:05:31 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky

Could someone MAIL me the FTP address where the modifications are?
I searched my name server for "garfield" but didn't come up with
anything..

I appreciate it..

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                _
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Xref: sparky alt.radio.scanner:2226 rec.radio.shortwave:7533
From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Upcoming Disaster Medical Drill
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:10:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UMCC


      Starting on 22 OCT, there will be a four day test of the
National Disaster Medical System (NDMS) called 'OPEN ARMS.' 
     The scenario of the exercise is a 6.8 magnitude (Richter)
earthquake centered at Marked Tree, Arkansas, about 35 miles NW of
Memphis.  This simulated catastrophe allows emergency medical
agencies to practice a response to a large-scale disaster,
     Chances are that some of the HF 'SHARES' frequencies will be
in use, but those of you who live near the specific regions should
monitor the VHF/UHF medical service mutual-aid channels.

-- 
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P.O. Box 443     Packet: KA8VIR @KA8UNZ.#SEMI.MI.USA.NA
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48197-0443                  PADI, USPA, AFCEA, INEOA, P226, VFR700, etc.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: raford@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Robert Ford)
Subject: Re: cellular interception
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:59:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.2571.1520@dosgate>, "peter dougherty" <peter.dougherty@canrem.com> writes:
> CSIS, OPP are all fine.  In Canada there are no monitoring laws, at least
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> a) not to my knowledge and b) not that would be enforceable, based on the
> Radiocommunications Act.  Mobile, hand-held, fixed-location; doesn't matter.

Ok, here is the only one (except for radar detectors in some provinces).
Appearently in Manitoba it is not legal to listen to a scanner in your
car.

Robert Ford
University of Waterloo
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Scanner Ban is now law (Cellular coverage that is)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 05:31:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.210332.6747@col.hp.com> tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Ver
aeke) writes:
>The manager mentioned he was a ham and that some states currently do not
>allow scanners in mobile vehicles.  He claimed he had a portable ham
>receiver (transmitter too??) that could also receive other than ham
>bands. He is a licensed ham so he can legally carry it in the car.
>However, if his ham receiver can also act as a scanner could he be
>arrested in one of those states that prohibits mobile scanners?  Good
>question folks.
>
>Regards.
>


   I remember reading an article in 73 mags. 
 It is about a ham who in the process of helping  police
 RDFing a jammer get arrested  for owning a HT capable
 of receiving police frequency.
  And even the District Attorney try to get the hams to
 plead guilty and have the charges against him dismised
 but the ham hang on and with the support of his hams buddy
 go to court.
     i haven't read the ending of this stories.

      To think that that  A**H**E Police arrested him 
 while he is helping them is bizzare. 
     Here in Kentucky It is illegal to have /operate
 a scanner in a car. I don't know whetter HT having
 receiving range of 140-175 qualify as scanner.
 But there will always be some A**H**e try to test
  the water and make one of us as the example.

  Muskie
From: preiser@cancer.unm.edu (Doug Preiser)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Weather Scans?
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:32:58 GMT
Reply-To: preiser@cancer.unm.edu
Organization: UNM Cancer Center

In article <1992Oct13.130227.9646@panix.com>, oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl) writes:
>In <12OCT199215591050@utkvx2.utk.edu> egw@utkvx2.utk.edu (Wolpert, Edward Greenwal) writes:
>
>>I'm just wondering, what are the main weather scan freqs?
>>Where can one get a list of them?
> 
>Well, most people start with the National Weather Service.  Tune up
>162.55, and 162.475, and a third frequency that escapes me.

That would be 162.400

  Those are 
>the frequencies picked up by Radio Shack's Weather Radios, etc.
>You could call up your local weather bureau to find which frequency is
>right for your area.
>
>
>Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
>30 Rockefeller Plaza
>New York, NY  10112-0228
>voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
   Internet: preiser@cancer.unm.edu
   Bitnet:   preiser@unmb                     I do M
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Weather Scans?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:08:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

Re Wx

And the other, other frequency is 162.45 (Ft. Collins, Colo.)

Ron
From: v071pzp4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig L. Cole)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FTP sites for scanner mods?
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi -- 

I hate clogging up bandwidth for another request for scanner mods,
but ... 

I have a Uniden XLT-100, and would like to find out what mods are
available for it. I'd appreciate if someone could point me toward
the proper FTP sites... 

E-mail or posting is fine. Thanks,

V071PZP4@@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
V071PZP4@BITNET
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: anti-scanner bill
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:38:29 GMT
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
> According to a news story I just saw, Congress has passed the bill
> outlawing the sale of scanners that can pick up the cellular band.
> The sale of ``digital converters'' is also banned, in anticipation
> of next-generation units.  Bush is apparently expected to sign it.

I wonder if a diode 'locking out' the celluar band will suffice for this bill
(soon to be law)?

BBrad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu