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From: igo@sparc27.hri.com (Frederick J. Igo)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:37:34 GMT
Reply-To: igo@hri.com
Distribution: ne
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <1992Jul27.163159.11038@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com>,
heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser) writes:
> In article <BrvnMw.H5J@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M
Richmond) writes:
> >alive. By the end of the meal "fred" (I always call him fred) would 
> 
> What a nice touch:-)
> 

That's funny, I always call my lobsters Charlie. :-) X 2.


--
Frederick J. Igo                                            igo@hri.com
Horizon Research, Inc.                                   (617) 466-8300

"Nothing beats the taste sensation when maple syrup collides with ham."
  -- Dale Cooper, FBI Special Agent
From: bill@frog.CRDS.COM (snow)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Good food near Hanscom field (Bedford)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:28:51 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Charles River Data Systems

Cafe Luigi's in the Bedford shopping center is pretty good.  (Not great,
but cheap and not bad.)

The Willow Pond on Lexington St (I think) in Concord.

You are probably in range of Lexington Center with 5-10 restaurants to
choose from.
-- 

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From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Best Dim Sum in Boston?
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:19:52 GMT
Followup-To: ne.food
Distribution: ne
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: manes@bass.bu.edu's message of 29 Jul 92 15:22:14 GMT


In article <92249@bu.edu> manes@bass.bu.edu (Michelle Manes) writes:

   In article <1992Jul29.135248.2740@athena.mit.edu> abernard@athena.mit.edu (Andrew Bernard) writes:
   >The subject says it all, I have a friend coming to town and we are looking
   >for dim sum in Boston or Cambridge.


   China Pearl
   9 Tyler St.

   New House of Toy
   218 Old Colony Ave.

   Golden Palace
   14 Tyler St.

   all in Boston Chinatown.
   Have fun.

   (Let them know you are willing to share a table and
   you'll be seated sooner.)

Second all of these.  I mostly go to China Pearl nowadays.  
--


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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: zippy@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: Re: The Iguana Cafe -- check it out...
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:50:08 GMT

I've really enjoyed my visits to the Iguana Cantina.  The food is good, you can
get a filling non-fajita dinner for $6, and the decor is impressively tacky.

Pat Bob sez check it out.

The former Glob restaurant critic listed the Iguana as one of his favorite
places, btw.

--Pat
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Good food near Hanscom field (Bedford)
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Distribution: ne
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <1992Jul29.032645.6106@athena.mit.edu>, heckman@athena.mit.edu
(Larry J Lennhoff) writes:
=> 
=>   A friend of mine just started working at Hanscom field.  I work in
=> Burlington.  We're looking for decent places to meet for lunch and 
=> occasionally dinner.  This means we can't drive more than 10 minutes
=> 1 way and need to be done eating in an hour or so.
=> 
=>   Places I already know about include Dennys (ick), The Great Wall,
=> and the really fancy place just outside hanscom on the way to rt 4
=> whose name I can't remember.  Are there any others?

The really fancy place, called "Hartwell House" isn't so fancy anymore.
The menu was changed sometime ago to coincide more with generic "pub"
food, and the prices came down a bit.

(Generic Pub food is what you get at one of those restaurants that has
at least the following on the menu: Clam Chowder, Buffalo(e) wings,
some kind of burger in disguise, at least one mexican entree, some
kind of pasta in a cream sauce that contains brocolli.... and so it
goes. Soon, every restaurant in America will have the same menu :-(

But things are looking up. Your not so far from Lexington Center and
Bel Canto (Italian), Lemon Grass (Thai), and Yangtze River (Chinese).

On the Concord side, there is the Dunfey's Sheraton on 2A (close,
but no cigar), the famous Willow Pond Kitchen of Greasy Fried
Frog Leg fame, and at Concord Center, the Colonial Inn (not so
bad), Walden Station (generic pub food with Thai dishes, for some
strange reason), and a greek bakery deli that will knock your
socks off.... sorry, I forgot the name.

Otherwise, the operative expression is "shit out of luck".

- Bill Lambert

(PS - You can't get lobster sashimi at any of these places.)
From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:43:47 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul23.152951.28596@ima.isc.com>, trb@ima.isc.com (Andrew Tannenbaum) writes:
> By the way, this doesn't just happen at street bazaars in 
> exotic Araby, it happens at modern supermarkets in western-style
> countries.

I was freaked out on my first visit to one of the Asian markets in
Boston's Chinatown.  As I was walking by buckets of frogs and turtles
and looking at things like eels, I saw one guy pull a fish out and
throw it up on a table, where it flopped around a bit.  He held it
down with one hand so he could reach around behind himself for something.
I thought for sure that he was going to pull out a big cleaver and lop
it's head off.

Instead, he had pulled out a club, and whopped it on the side of the head.
Then it was flopping around with much smaller motions.  He flipped it
over, and whopped it on the other side of the head, and then it lay still.
Guaranteed fresh, I guess.
-- 
Guy Klose
milo@mvuxi.att.com
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: dla@westford.ccur.com (Dave Anderson)
Subject: The Iguana Cafe -- check it out...
Reply-To: dla@westford.ccur.com (Dave Anderson)
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp. Westford MA.
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:28:19 GMT


  Many thanks to all of you who recommended the Iguana Cafe in Waltham
  during the recent Mexican food restaurant thread -- the place is most 
  definitely worth going out of your way for...

===============================================================================
  Dave Anderson                                508-392-2441
  Concurrent Computer Corporation              dla@westford.ccur.com
  One Technology Way
  Westford, MA 01886
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From: robbie@bacchus.harvard.edu (Rob Strawderman)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: The Iguana Cafe -- check it out...
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:39:54 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Harvard School of Public Health, SDAC

Yeah well, our experience was less than optimal... my fiance found a bug
(a LARGE cockroach-type bug) in her fajitas, and a beetle in her drink.
We won't be going back there anytime soon.

-rob
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: The Iguana Cafe -- check it out...
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:06:06 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Distribution: ne
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <1675@hsdndev.UUCP>, robbie@bacchus.harvard.edu 
(Rob Strawderman) writes:
=> Yeah well, our experience was less than optimal... my fiance found a bug
=> (a LARGE cockroach-type bug) in her fajitas, and a beetle in her drink.
=> We won't be going back there anytime soon.

Did they charge you extra? Sounds like authentic Mexican ! !

The food at the Iguana is OK, nothing so special.... critters
included notwithstanding. The attraction is the decor, which is
reminiscent of one of those amusement park rides where you get
in a car, enter a dark place and things pop out of the walls
to scare you. Really!

And hey! A couple of diet (no ice) Margaritas, and you begin to
sing Spanish love songs to the cucarachas, or race them for money.
From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:28:29 GMT
	<1992Jul23.165607.23181@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com>
	<BrvnMw.H5J@world.std.com> <6826@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
Distribution: ne
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: igo@sparc27.hri.com's message of 28 Jul 92 18:37:34 GMT


In article <6826@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> igo@sparc27.hri.com (Frederick J. Igo) writes:

   In article <1992Jul27.163159.11038@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com>,
   heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser) writes:
   > In article <BrvnMw.H5J@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M
   Richmond) writes:
   > >alive. By the end of the meal "fred" (I always call him fred) would 
   > 
   > What a nice touch:-)
   > 

   That's funny, I always call my lobsters Charlie. :-) X 2.


Heh.  Back when I worked at Teradyne, the people in our department
would frequently eat lunch at Ho Yuen Ting on Hudson Street (a wonderful
restaurant, BTW) and would get some kind of whole fish.  We had a 
tradition that the fish always had to be named before eating.  The 
Naming of the Fish was a rotating honor, but if we had a new person
or a guest from outside the department, that person would always 
get to name the fish.  It sometimes provided a very valuable insight into
their character...
--


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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:29:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.205052.5851@cbnews.cb.att.com> milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose) writes:
>> What's so shocking about that?  This is exactly what you do if you go
>> catch 'em yourself...or at least, it's what you ought to do, the 
>> alternative being to let the fish slowly strangle.
>Don't pick on me!  I come from the midwest, where "seafood" is square,
>flat, and breaded.

Don't they do the same thing when they catch fresh-water fish?  :-)

-- 
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* fresh steamers with melted butter & a hot corn on the cob with butter & salt*
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From: alexm@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Request: Best place for shrimp coctail, anyone?
Keywords: shrimp coctail
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:52:09 GMT
Organization: Mass General Hospital CIPR

Hi:

Could anyone suggest a good place for shrimp coctail in 
Downtown Boston - Faneuill Hall - Copley area?
Price is not an objective, but I wold rather not pay
$10.00 per shrimp

Thanks in advance.

Alex M. Milshteyn
From: heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:50:06 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company

In article <6778@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>Though moralist! I bet ye eats beef and lets someone else do
>the killing for you. How despicable of you not to confront your
>own food and do it in yourself, rather than pay someone else to do
>it for you :-)

I have NO qualms about dropping a lobster in a pot of boiling water.
What I DO have qualms about is eating one that is still crawling around
on my plate!

-- 
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* fresh steamers with melted butter & a hot corn on the cob with butter & salt*
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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:08:55 GMT

heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser) writes:

>In article <6796@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>>You make some image that really isn't correct. The part you're eating
>>is dead, I suppose. At least it doesn't move. Nothing "live" is
>>on the plate you are eating from. Whether or not this method is
>>better on the lobster than being boiled alive is probably more
>>of a religious question than a culinary one.
>>

>Oh, someone else said the lobster was moving.  Someone else said it
>was "somewhat stunned".  I took that to mean alive and kicking :-)


In fact , I have had the "live" lobster at Gyosai MANY times since it
is the best sashimi value in town (Tairyo Sashimi Deluxe). The lobsters
now are much quieter. Previously they would be active enough to reach
out and grab the chopsticks , after one had cut the bands restraining
their claws. The pieces that you ate were completely separated from
the moving half and thus could be considered "fresh" but not really
alive. By the end of the meal "fred" (I always call him fred) would 
be pretty much unmoving (pretty much) and thats when you would ask the
waitress to turn the head into lobster miso soup. For take away of 
course, who could eat more.

Charlie


P.S. Bill, next time you all are doing up Gyosai, let me know, its
only a couple of minutes walk (I can see it from my windows).

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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: heckman@athena.mit.edu (Larry J Lennhoff)
Subject: Good food near Hanscom field (Bedford)
Summary: That's what I'm looking for 
Organization: Steelypips Software
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:26:45 GMT

  A friend of mine just started working at Hanscom field.  I work in
Burlington.  We're looking for decent places to meet for lunch and 
occasionally dinner.  This means we can't drive more than 10 minutes
1 way and need to be done eating in an hour or so.

  Places I already know about include Dennys (ick), The Great Wall,
and the really fancy place just outside hanscom on the way to rt 4
whose name I can't remember.  Are there any others?

          Larry 

Newsgroups: ne.food
From: mock@space.mit.edu (Patrick C. Mock)
Subject: Re: Request: Best place for shrimp cocktail, anyone?
Originator: mock@benz
Keywords: shrimp cocktail
Reply-To: mock@space.mit.edu (Patrick C. Mock)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:58:21 GMT


The best deal I know of is not in the area you describe.  Nonetheless
the S&S Deli in Inman Sq has ~12 nice shrimp for ~$6.  

Pat
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: kev@osf.org (Kevin Till)
Subject: Re: Best Dim Sum in Boston?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:36:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.135248.2740@athena.mit.edu>, abernard@athena.mit.edu (Andrew Bernard) writes:
|> The subject says it all, I have a friend coming to town and we are looking
|> for dim sum in Boston or Cambridge.

	1) China Pearl		Tyler St., Chinatown, Boston
	2) Golden Palace	Tyler St., Chinatown, Boston

	They both open daily(8:30 am to 3:00 pm) for Dim Sum.
-- 
Kevin T. Till	
System Engineering
Open Software Foundation
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: trb@ima.isc.com (Andrew Tannenbaum)
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Organization: Interactive Systems, Cambridge, MA 02138-5302
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:29:51 GMT

In article <6796@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
> In Japan, and other parts of the world I assume, they prepare food
> with live seafood in front of the customer. It's a cultural thing,
> and this shows the care of the establishment for freshness and
> quality.

The "it's a cultural thing" is definitely true, and I regret that
a certain segment of modern America seems to want to bestow human
civil rights to every creature that breathes.

It is not uncommon (at least outside the USA) to go to a market to buy
fish for stew, and point at one swimming in a tank, and the clerk pulls
it out, pops it in the head with a club and hacks it into chunks with a
cleaver.  Certain sensitive souls might want to report these clerks to
Amnesty International, but if you want fresh fish, this is normal
procedure.  By the way, this doesn't just happen at street bazaars in 
exotic Araby, it happens at modern supermarkets in western-style
countries.

I think it's more important to be sensitive to other people's customs
than to worry about a fish's feelings.

	Andrew Tannenbaum   Interactive   Cambridge, MA   +1 617 661 7474
From: artc@bacchus.epps.kodak.com (Art Campbell)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Good food near Hanscom field (Bedford)
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:53:06 GMT
Reply-To: artc@bacchus.atex.kodak.com
Distribution: ne
Organization: Atex Publishing Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul29.032645.6106@athena.mit.edu>, heckman@athena.mit.edu (Larry J Lennhoff) writes:
|> 
|>   A friend of mine just started working at Hanscom field.  I work in
|> Burlington.  We're looking for decent places to meet for lunch and 
|> occasionally dinner.  This means we can't drive more than 10 minutes
|> 1 way and need to be done eating in an hour or so.
|> 
|>   Places I already know about include Dennys (ick), The Great Wall,
|> and the really fancy place just outside hanscom on the way to rt 4
|> whose name I can't remember.  Are there any others?
|> 

The 99 on Middlesex Turnpike norht of the Mall serves reliable burgers and
bar food; some seafood.

There's a magic Crepe in the Burlington Mall, and an Uno's pizza also, but
both are mobbed at lunch -- go early or late.

About 20 minutes north in Chelmsford off Route 4 is Ciro's Pizzeria,
which serves really great pizza (light, airy crust; imaginative toppings); 
worth the trip.

The Hunan Garden is East on 129 off Route 3 -- better Chinese than the 
Great Wall (IMHO).

-- 
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     and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
                      All the usual disclaimers apply.
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:53:09 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Distribution: ne
Organization: Horizon Research


In article <1992Jul21.165006.11816@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com>,
heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser) writes:
> I have NO qualms about dropping a lobster in a pot of boiling water.
> What I DO have qualms about is eating one that is still crawling around
> on my plate!

You make some image that really isn't correct. The part you're eating
is dead, I suppose. At least it doesn't move. Nothing "live" is
on the plate you are eating from. Whether or not this method is
better on the lobster than being boiled alive is probably more
of a religious question than a culinary one.

In Japan, and other parts of the world I assume, they prepare food
with live seafood in front of the customer. It's a cultural thing,
and this shows the care of the establishment for freshness and
quality. For example, in a tempura shop in Japan, the cook may hold
the live prawns in front of you and break them at the tail for your
approval, or slice a live eel for your view before dipping pieces in
batter and frying it.

Well.... not for everyone, but rather than righteous indignation
about cultural differences, would you just please not think about
it if it really bothers you?

By the way, I always wondered, what are qualms? Aren't they kinda
like a large Quohaog? (^o^)
From: soberg@think.com (Stephanie Oberg)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Date: 21 Jul 1992 15:32:14 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: quicksilver.think.com

[Seafood rights manifesto deleted]

>=> Did it wriggle when you stabbed it with your fork?  There's your answer!
>=> Maybe not a person, but ALIVE!
>=> 
>=> Killing food and eating it is one thing;  eating it still alive is
>=> something else.

     I once watched an otter cruising along the Monterey coast dive for
     shellfish.  It came up with a fair-sized crab after a few tries.  The
     otter floated along on his back with the frantically wriggling crab on
     its chest, pulling the crab's legs off one by one and eating with 
     apparently great delectation.  The otter swam out of sight so I didn't
     get to see how it handled the soon-to-be legless yet still vital and 
     sentient body.

     And what's this about "[a lobster is] maybe not a person"?  I would 
     have said a lobster is definitely not a person.  Depends on how you
     define person?????
 
    
-- 

sojourner
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Tasty Seafood
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:26:24 GMT

In article <14haluINN758@early-bird.think.com> soberg@think.com (Stephanie Oberg) writes:
>     And what's this about "[a lobster is] maybe not a person"?  I would 
>     have said a lobster is definitely not a person.  Depends on how you
>     define person?????

you're right, that was a bad choice of words.  A lobster is definitely
not a person!  :-)

-- 
* Happiness is a hot boiled lobster with drawn butter, a side dish of hot     *
* fresh steamers with melted butter & a hot corn on the cob with butter & salt*
Work: heiser@sud509.ed.ray.com
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