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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:02:15 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Music Junkie
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

DON'T LEAVE US, ADAM!!  There's a way.  I haven't figured out yet exactly
what it is, but it's there.  Exactly where will you be (3 states away)?

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     whose horoscope today says "Set up a work schedule and stick with
     it" -- the first part is easy -- I do that frequently -- the second
     part is the problem -- I'm logging off now to work on that second
     part...
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: The D-words
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 04:17:17 GMT
Organization: Karsten's Bit Bucket
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Dan writes: 
> all my phd friends on here can hopefully understand....I am NOT flaming
> any or all phds.....they have my respect for doing something I did not do...
> as do those who bungee jump, parachute jump, serve twenty years in the
> Army, etc, etc, etc.....

Just in case my last post on this subject is being misinterpreted I want
to point out that it was the degree and the process for which I had no
respect, and not necessarily people who may or may not have gone through
with it.

--karsten

One day I just mysteriously vanished from the campus...
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From: jthomas@well.sf.ca.us (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: Gender
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:56:59 GMT


>All I'm saying is that seeing sexism in the use of he/his
>generically is the same as giggling at the pronunciation of
<Uranus.  Make sense?

Nope. Coupla points for trivialization but none for making sense.
Sounds like you're saying that symbols are neutral:

>I wish I could jump up and down on the screen in front of you
>waving, smiling, saying "YES, THAT'S EXACTLY MY DUMB-HEADED, HAM-
>HANDED POINT."  It was Carol who said that sexism is embedded in
<the language.  All *I'm* saying is that it ain't in the language,
>it's in some people's heads. The end. Finis.  I master the
>obvious again.

Language exists *only* in social usage, as you seem to acknowledge.
Language-shapes-thought-shapes-language. Sounds like you're conceding
that language is the precursor to thought. If so, then it's the
language that's in some persons' heads. Sounds, despite your mastery of
the obvious, like you're saying that "language cannot be sexist."
If this is your point, your mastery of the obvious isn't all that
obvious. For us simple folk, perhaps you could clarify.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:48:26 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Good Evening to You All
Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>
              14 Aug 1992 23:20:43 EDT from
              <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:20:43 EDT Karen Kay said:
>Grrrrrrrr..... I am *not* a small-town girl.  I grew up in Detroit.
>My mother grew up in Berkeley, CA--hardly a small-town girl, either.

   No, but I didn't KNOW all that.  I just think of your present location as
as a small town.

>(I don't know why I am construing this as an insult--maybe it just is
>a matter of being perceived as something I'm not, again.)

Not intended as one....I guess I can imagine why, cause it sometimes has
touches of "hick" or "bozo" attached to it.....but I thought of it as one
who is sweet, innocent, uncorrupted by the sins of the metropolis, etc....
really....no shit....

anyway, the last thing i wanna do is have any wars with the angel....

kiss and make up?

dan   (who is logging off and going to bed...and truly amazed that the
phone and computer people MAY have gotten 9600 bps working ok at last.)
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:28:00 EDT
From:         ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: A Baby!!!
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>No, I'm not having one, but Anne Diffily's water has broken...
>
>Why am *I* so excited? I don't know, but I have been from the
>beginning.  Maybe because this is a miracle baby, long-awaited and
>unexpected.  Anyway, my fingers are crossed for an easy labor for
>Adbam!!!!

Back for a day between installments of a vacation, and I found Anne's
message to me, written at 5:40 this morning.  Our friendship predates
Words-L by about six months; she's the reason I'm on the List at all,
because she told me about it.  We've talked about a lot of things in
the last 2-1/2 years, including--early on in the friendship--her
attempts to overcome her frustration at (she assumed) not being able
to bear children.  Then she wrote to me back in December, a note that
began "Are you sitting down?!" Annie, as much as anyone I've ever
known, is the proof of miracles.

Ken
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:31:44 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gender

>> I can think of no symbol that is "clear as shoe polish."
>
>Skull and crossbones on a bottle?  Wouldn't you guess it even if you
>didn't know it?
>
>g

Would a Martian?

-Mka
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Is there a term for it?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:11:26 GMT

Lobstrosities United Enquire:

>Starring Richard Little, Little John, John Simon, Simon and Schuster...

>  Is there a term in English (or any other language for that
>matter) for this?


I don't know, but does anyone remember the game "Geography" we used to play
as children, where one had to come up with the name of a geographical
entity (country, city, mountain, river, etc) beginning with the last letter
of the previous entity cited?  (Asia, Allegheny [we always stipulated that
names with multiple endings -- mountains, river, etc -- be used only once,
and the last letter of the main word was the one to use next], Yugoslavia,
Armenia, Afghanistan, Norway...)

--bayla
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:09:08 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: BUSH
              14 Aug 1992 10:07:00 MST from <TSLGILMORE@CC.WEBER.EDU>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:07:00 MST Lisa J. Gilmore said:
>Hey-----          Vote for Barbara Bush...

Why not?  She's smarter than her husband.  But, I'm voting for Jack Kemp.
>
>LJG      --  anticipating a flame war

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:55:47 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Offbeat Westerns
              16 Aug 1992 11:43:18 EDT from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

I, too, have been waiting for MCCLINTOCK!  I love that movie, especially
the scene where Stephanie Powers (as John Wayne-Maureen O'Hara's daughter)
tells Wayne to shoot Patrick Wayne.  FUNNY!!!!

Baby News:  Thanks to everyone.  Tom brought Joanne and little Aaron home
yesterday afternoon.  The policy now is 48 hours and out, I guess.
Everyone is doing fine.

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:26:58 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Self-correcting (why not try proofing?)
Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>
              14 Aug 1992 17:06:26 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:06:26 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>I thought I used pretty scientific descriptions like "three XTs with
>CGA yuck monitors."  Why do people buy CGA color monitors?  Monochrome
>with CGA card isn't bad.  CGA color is awful.

   From the description you gave I just assumed they were antiques....of
course not QUITE as old as me....Does anyone even SELL CGA any more?
I spose to those who don't know any better....to those who are thankful
to have a crummy old beater of a machine....and arent' well-off net-goddesses.

>I didn't mean to imply that a student should do it.  I agree that it would
>be *MUCH* better than being on the tenure committee.  We have no choice in

        Yup...of course cleaning out the latrine beats a tenure committee.

dan
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:32:38 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
              19 Aug 1992 14:54:12 U from <harwell@SMTPGATE.TECHRSCS.PANAM.EDU>

On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:54:12 U Anne said:
>Internet to the NE US is majorly fubared, right?

Must have been.  I hadn't received any mail for over half an hour from
any of the lists I'm on, so I did a bitlook of listserv@uga.  That
worked, but still no mail.  Bitnet was fine, so it had to be Internet
that was messed up.

Evelyn
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Original-From: hlwpk!ktw (Kenneth T Wolman +1 201 564 2866)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:41:00 EDT
From:         ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re:chicken shit
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>
>I've been thinking of other animal-related expressions whose
>meaning risks becoming unanchored in our experience: cock-eyed,
>pigeon toed, hen pecked, stampeded, bridled, rat-eaten, flea-bitten,
>rabbit ears, kid gloves, crowed, cowed, buffaloed, up a tree.

Anyone mention "snakebit" yet?

Ken
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:52:06 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Dying Vax 6350
              13 Aug 1992 08:50:50 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

The trouble with Internet is that this mailer is more comfortable with
Bitnet:  when I sub to a list on Bitnet, I can set options by dealing
directly with the listserv, but when I sub through Internet, I can't
because this mailer mangles the Internet address of the list into a
Bitnet-type address.  If it didn't, I could sub through Internet and not
have to worry about nodes going down.

Evelyn
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Subject: Re: Good evening to you all
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:48:36
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: marley.think.com
In-reply-to: Doris Smith's message of Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:06:59 -0500

Doris asks:

   (1) At 12:00 noon one ceases saying "Good morning" and begins saying "Good
       afternoon." When does one cease saying "Good afternoon" and begin saying
      "Good evening"?

   (2) Do any of you ever use "Good night" as a greeting instead of a farewell?


I never thought much about it until I lived in a culture that did.  When I
was in Senegal I found out fairly early on that these timely distinctions
very much matter.  If you invite someone over in the "apres-midi" for tea,
they'll come any time after two on up to 6 or 7 pm (actually, I think it's
delineanated by the time the sun goes down).  If you're invited to
someone's house for "diner" (yup, dinner), don't go at early american
hours...dinner is much later from 7 (very earliest) to 9 or 10.  A "soiree"
starts at 9 at the earliest--most "boites" (clubs) don't open until 11 or
midnight and "la boum" (ou bien, la fete) continues until the wee hours til
dawn breaks.  

So, in way too many words, I think 1) its a cultural thing and 2) it is
often geared to the sun's path...you know what I mean.

//anne//
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:12:43 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gender
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On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:58:34 MST, "Dan Lester" <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU> wrote:
> I just can't IMAGINE the wonderful abh liking a blonde bimbo in red/green/
> other color of the week/ plastic glasses.

Elaine wears those glasses too you know...

G
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:54:55 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Gender
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Maya - Bill Murray is great.  What did you think of "Where the Buffalo Roam"?

G
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:59:46 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Help
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

Welcome back, Joan!  How was Wyoming(?)?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Gender 
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 07:33:35 GMT
Organization: Karsten's Bit Bucket
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>Skull and crossbones on a bottle?  Wouldn't you guess it even if you
>didn't know it?

The skull and crossbones symbol was replaced by "Mr. Yuck" because too
many children thought the s-and-c meant pirate food.

--karsten
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:43:07 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gender

>However, as far as "symbols are empty -- you can fill them with anything"
>is concerned, that's not entirely accurate.  (I haven't yet come to the
>first post on that one, I'm reading double quotes here), without context)
>Symbols are 'empty' only until filled "thei first time."  Then, in order t
>*change* the meaning, you have to expend considerable  effort.  The effot
>tis political: its a negotiation among/between groups as to which shall
>have the power to fill the symbol.  Until a change is made, however, the
><established meaning> *IS* <embedded in the language>, just as a law once
>made can be changed by politcal/legislative action, but until it is, it IS
>the Law of the Land.  *Not* an 'empty' situation waiting for someone to
>'fill' it.
>
>--bayla

I'm not disagreeing--except for the embedded part.  The people
who claim that he/him used generically is sexist are precisely
trying to "fill" the usage/words/symbol with a "content" that
would be strange--and oddly insistent--to a lot of folk--like me.

Since you use the law of the land analogy, there is a lot of law
that writes default rules, not limiting rules.  If you don't have
a will, the law will dispose of your property a certain way--the
default rules, which you are free to change by writing a will,
although there are limiting rules about how a will may be
executed.
     In the present context, feminists and some others are
pushing a limiting rule that says the generic usage of he/him
*is* sexist over the default usage that among most native
speakers I'd guess just doesn't or didn't carry that baggage.
    In any case, the first "filling" of he/him as used for
everyone is *not* sexist, I believe.  It is the folks who
"object" to it that are trying to refill the usage.  It's a
project that suggests itself because of the various (distinct)
meanings of "man", "men" etc.
    As always, I return to Uranus.

-Mka
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:30:58 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: List wars
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

> Spaeking of Tushar, has anyone thought of the possibility he may be lolling
> around in some New York supermodel bimbo's loft on Park Avenue, and that he
> DOES NOT WANT to be bothered? Just a thought for all you worriers out there.

Yes.  That's one of the first things I thought of.  But we're not bothering
him.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:20:34 CDT
From:         Absolut Bandwidth <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: List wars
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

>You guys can do what you like, but you might just end up contributing to the
>demise of the free lists - and mess it up for other people, too.


No problem, we'll just get EFF to issue a statement accusing them of trying to
restrict First Amemdment rights and Jim Thomas to write impolite things about
them ad nauseum in CuD.

-abh
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From: ak743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doretta Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Something interesting
Reply-To: ak743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doretta Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 04:39:08 GMT


In a previous article, N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith) says:

[first line killed by blarg-ing editor]
>nobody around here ever smelled, that's for <darn> sure.
Were you invested <infested> with the Order of the <Stinking> Rose?
Or maybe just  _the Name of the Rose_?  
>I hear by the <grapevine> that I was hardly missed because *somebody*
>named <Ruth> kept everyone busy in my absence.  Well I never!
Wellllllll - I tried my best, Giggles, but <nobody> Compares 2 You.

>--ggs (back, with teeth flossed, ready to talk...)
Hair all brushed?  Stinking Rose Garland disposed of at the nearest fumigation
center?  C'mon, chum, it's time to pull up your stool and order something.
Sick of Corona?  Maybe some of Natalie's Maker's Mark is in order....

-- 
Nethead, aka the Ruth Hanschka, hath enscribed herein, a message
	ap290 and ak743 , both of the Cleveland Freenet
			Here Be Dragons
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:49:04 EDT
From:         PBARFOOT%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      welcome aaron

Evelyn,
 What wonderful news !  Do you suppose that Aaron and Kevin
will be friends when they grow up. They are already
e-cousins.
                             Br Paul
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:31:08 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Punctuation vs Puncture Biopsy
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Our library has more books on puncture biopsy than on punctuation.
I'm pondering the significance of that fact.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:23:20 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BUSH
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> To: Multiple recipients of list WORDS-L <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>
>
> Hey-----          Vote for Barbara Bush...
>

But I voted for Barbara Bush *last* time! :-)
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:54:48 EDT
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From:         GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Dead cats and prehensile tails

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Mr. Yuck for poison; Mr. Yuck-Yuck for comedy.

-Mka
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Why the sexist language -- why not Ms. Yuck?

JAg
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:26:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WHTMIQR - Intermission
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> I like the treatment so far, Gib.  Has potential for next summer release.
> See Leslie Nielsen in the Gilbert role, Madeleine Kahn as tc/sw.  Maybe ...
    1)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                2)^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> hmmm, Holly Hunter as <that female person>.  If we can get him, Ned Beatty
      3)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in a cameo as the sleazy timeshare salesman.  But I want that Miata in
> Mexico; how can we do that given this plot outline?  Let's change the working
> title, by the way, to "Convention in Cancun."
>
> Creative Properties Office
> ggs Productions, Inc.

1) I like it, though surely -ggs is cuter than that.
2) Very good choice except that tc is much prettier than that.
3) Oh jesus no.....  More like a younger Geraldine Fitzgerald (from
   her role in that film with what's his name traveling with the cat)
   or maybe Bea Arthur acting really spacey but not funny at all...
   Someone who evokes very strong emotions.  (Saw Holly last night
   in a lovely film about three generations of women on an island
   with Gena Rowlands and some great old lady as the Alzeimers stricken
   grandmother.... fine film, and tc didn't like it and got really
   tacky about the toy because ggs said "I loved it.")
Remember, Truth is Stranger Than Fiction.... and all this is
la purisima verdad!
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:15:48 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Net Access?????
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1992, Doris Smith wrote:
> What say you?  Net access from *our* school?  And I'm stuck in a regular
> classroom that does not even have a phone jack? While I am conducting a
> course that combines a survey of British Lit, composition, Advanced
> Placement Test preparation, and everything else under the sun that falls
> in the laps of English teachers, *you* are going to be in your four-room suite
> with *net access*?  You should have kept that a secret, my friend, for
> while I know you hate for people to wander into your room during class I
> may just do so during my *conference* period.  Rats!

Yes, but think of it this way...look how often I have to be there at 5:30
in the morning while the dear children are pasting up the newspaper...or till
10 or later at night while they're *still* pasting up.  You *know* I would
never even think of looking at it during the course of a school day.  :-)
Yeah, right!
ndh (who got lucky last year when the school was renovated and ended up
with a journalism classroom, workroom, office, and two darkrooms...after
years of working with NOTHING!)
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