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From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 HP and kart engines
Keywords: kart engines
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:35:49 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In article <1992Apr9.171953.844@rti.rti.org> jbp@rti.rti.org writes:
>In article <1APR199221005548@utarlg.uta.edu> George M. Smiley writes:
>
>>Last years Yamaha ox99 made 700 bhp at 12,000 rpm.
>
>Hmmm....that looks like about 0.2 hp per cc.  Let's compare with a
>stock Yamaha kart motor which has about 20 hp and 100cc displacement
>-- also 0.2 hp per cc!  But, the kart motor will rev to 14,000+ rpm
>and its cheaper...... so there!     :-)
>-- 
>John Posthill  jbp@rti.rti.org

I can see it now:

Patrick Head:    We need a new engine deal for next year
Frank Williams   Yes ...
Patrick Head:    With Yamaha
Frank Williams   Yes ...
Patrick Head:    I want use 35 chain driven kart engines hooked up to a
		 solid back axle.  I want to fit a few in each sidepod. 
		 I should be able to use the throttle cables to hold the 
		 chassis together
Frank Williams   I'll get on the phone right away


			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
From: pmh2962@zeus.tamu.edu (Pat Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: RE: there I was, there I was, .... in CS, TX   (ARCA)
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:02:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Meteorology, TAMU
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Howdy! 
	Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmm...."

	The pole for tomorrow's Slick 50 ARCA 500K race at Texas World
Speedway was snatched yesterday by Loy Allen.  Allen is driving a
Ford TBird previously owned by the brother of the man he beat for the
pole.  Clifford Allison had his Buick in the no. 1 position with a 
speed of 180.14 mph.  Along came Allen in a Robert Yates-engined
previously-Davey Allison-back-up TBird and he took the pole away
with a 183.327 mph speed.
	Third was Rob Keselowski in a <really!> Chrysler Lebaron, 179.156
	Fourth was Bill Venturini, Lumina, 178.633.

	As far as I know this event will not be televised (?).

Pat Hayes--Meteorology--TAMU  INT: pmh@tamu.edu  BIT: pmh2962@tamzeus *whoop*
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From: v079ql9q@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Shane K Knapp)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: IMSA, IMSA where have you gone....
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hey......  Does anyone have ANY info on the IMSA GTP series?  We dont get cable
in the dorms here, and I don't have any time to watch TV.  How is the new Mazda
doing, if running at all, and what about the Intrepids?  Any reply would be
appreciated.  Thanks!

Shane Knapp

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v079ql9q@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker)
Subject: ARCA schedule
Originator: deanb@pecan10
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:48:55 CDT




		1992 ARCA Schedule

DATE	SITE				WINNER		PTS. LEADER
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/9	Daytona, Florida		J. Horton
3/8	Pensacola, Florida		R. Payne	B. Venturini (+20)
4/12	Texas World, Texas		E. Bierschwale	B. Keselowski (+20)
4/26	Xenia, Ohio
5/2	Talladega, Alabama
5/23	Flat Rock, Michigan
5/24	Toledo, Ohio
6/8	Sandusky, Ohio
6/13	Pocono, Pennsylvania
6/20	Brooklyn, Michigan
6/26	Xenia, Ohio
6/27	Flat Rock, Michigan
7/4	Nashville, Tennessee
7/12	Delaware, Ontario
7/18	Pocono, Pennsylvania
8/2	Topeka, Kansas
8/23	Springfield, Illinois
8/30	Toledo, Ohio
9/6	DuQuoin, Illinois
9/20	Texas World, Texas
11/14	Atlanta, Georgia
From: marti@inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Apples & Oranges (Was: Mansell NOT faster than Senna in 1991)
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:37:38 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH)

In article <kuov14INNcib@news.bbn.com> tdonahue@bbn.com (Tim Donahue) writes:
>Speaking of trivia: What does "JS" stand for in the Ligier model naming
>scheme?

JS stands for Jo Schlesser, a former friend of Guy Ligier.  JS died in
the GP of France in Rouen in 1968 driving a F1 Honda.

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From: ken@wyse.wyse.com (Ken Drottar x2582 dept303)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 - water injection.
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:30:28 GMT
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

In article <1992Apr7.210341.11318@acsu.buffalo.edu> v058l789@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman) writes:
>
>	 The air is cooled by the
>water injection, thus making it more danse and able to carry more water per unit
>of volume.  So as the denser intake charge goes in, it draws (or can draw or 
>burn) more fuel per unit of volume of air that comes in.  Thus you get more fuel
>burned and more exhaust discharge per unit of time.  Make sense??
>
	No. A car has a more or less fixed maximum fuel flow. Furthermore,
	the transition from water vapor to steam will absorb more energy from
	an engine. Ok, I know a steam engine works. Perhaps the volume 
	requirements of steam (and resultant work potential) are larger than 
	those of gasoline/oxygen combustion.

-- 
Ken Drottar						Email: ken@wyse.com
Systems Division  					Phone: (408)473-2582
Wyse Technology						Fax:   (408)473-2401
From: stan@dixie.com (Stan Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1: atmospheric vs turbo
Keywords: lap times comparison
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:52:15 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

torito@IASTATE.EDU (Jaime Santiago) writes:




>Does any one have fast lap times of turbo's last season?
>I think it might be interesting to see if today's non-turbo cars are faster than
>the best turbo cars. Sometimes horsepower alone doesn't make a car faster.

   I don't have the figure handy, but todays cars are definatly faster
   than those of the turbo era.

-- 
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Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 11:38:28 EST
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: there I was, there I was, .... in CS, TX (ARCA)
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From: dafuller@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: there I was, there I was, .... in CS, TX (ARCA)
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:51:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr13.075129.16875
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Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr11.194403.12367@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks) writes:
>
>In a previous article, pmh2962@zeus.tamu.edu (Pat Hayes) says:
>
>>
>>Howdy!
>>      Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmm...."
>>
>>      The pole for tomorrow's Slick 50 ARCA 500K race at Texas World
>>Speedway was snatched yesterday by Loy Allen.  Allen is driving a
>
>What are the dimensions of this track ?


>Before it was rebuilt, the track was a copy of Michigan:

>2 miles, moderate trioval banks, less than Daytona corner banking.
>--
>Dave Fuller                     All opinions expressed are my own and not
>Sequent Computer Systems        those of Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
>dafuller@sequent.com

   If memory serves the banking at Michigan Int'l Speedway is 31 in the
   turns, 18 through the tri-oval, and flat down the back stretch. If
   they just repaved over the old track these should be pretty close.

                                       Mike -  Orlando, FL
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From: tlm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Terry Matula)
Subject: Re: NASCAR: Cale Yarborough's Team (of drivers) 
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:56:49 GMT

I am really starting to wonder about Cale.  Lake Speed was a good driver.
Dick Trickle was a good driver, ( He now has three 5th place finishes, and 
one 7th place finish this year in 7 races, and is 9th? in Championship Points.)

Also, about Chad Little...I believe he is a very promising driver who
simply needs to get some experience to become a top driver.  Cale dumps him
after 6 races?  Come on!  I figure it takes at least one year before a team
really get to know a driver.  Anyway...

Bobby Hillin was suppose to drive two races for Cale (N Wilkesboro & 
Martinsville).  Well, now Bobby Hillin is gone.  Guess who the newest
driver is...Jimmy Hensley.  Glad to hear he got a ride, sad that its with
Cale.  Jimmy said in an interview on MRN's NASCAR Today "I'll be going after
the Winston Cup rookie-of-the-year with Cale."  

All I can say is, Don't count on it, Jimmy.

Anybody know what the problem is?  Is Cale or others on the team hard to
get along with.  Do they just like to run a driver of the week constest?

--
Terry Matula
tlm1@ra.msstate.edu
matula@ee.msstate.edu
From: jbp@rti.rti.org
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Pheonix Indycar Race (Spoiler!!)
Date: 5 Apr 92 23:36:43 GMT
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC

This spoils the result for those who don't want to know about the
Pheonix Indycar race.  [I sure am a lot nicer than that idiot Paul
Page who blurted out the winner of the Brazilian GP before we here
in the USA could see the tape delay late Sunday night!  Sheesh...]

last chance to quit....

Yes, Yes, Yes!!  Rahal looked great and was a deserving winner.  But
because of a local power outage, I did not get to see the first 20
laps of the race.  What happened to Michael Andretti?
-- 
John Posthill  jbp@rti.rti.org
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From: dafuller@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: "Salt" Walther arrested
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:19:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr7.181916.26596
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

>
>1. David Walther was not only burned in that accident (the 1973 Indy
>start-of-race accident), but several fans were seriously injured.
>And remember, this was just one incident in what turned out to be one
>of the most sickening motor sports events ever run, one that brought
>the sport lots of bad press at a time when it didn't need it in the
>least.  Walther was pretty much persona non grata in most racing
>circles after this incident, and remains so today, even though he
>was only partially to blame in one of a string of incidents.

I have little pity for Walther.  Part of the reason he was burned was
that his driving suits were tailored to be skin tight instead of loose
fitting, the way they're supposed to be.  Walther has a history of poor
judgement, not the least of which was getting into iron he was underqualified
for.  As heir to the Dayton-Walther wheels fortune he had more money than
sense.  

-- 
Dave Fuller		 	All opinions expressed are my own and not
Sequent Computer Systems	those of Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
dafuller@sequent.com
From: ldahlmey@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Lothar Dahlmeyer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: FYI - F1 Standings
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:57:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: zia.1992Apr14.145717.23885
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

F 1 Standings as of 14-apr-1992
(Albuquerque Journal)

1.	Nigel Mansell		Williams-Renault	 30

2.	Riccardo Patrese	Williams-Renault	 18

3.	Michael Schumacher	Benetton-Ford		 11	

4.	Gerhard Berger		McLaren-Honda		  5

5.	Ayrton Senna		McLaren-Honda		  4

6.	Jean Alesi		Ferrari			  3

7.	Andrea de Cesaris	Tyrrell-Ilmor		  2

7.	Ivan Capelli		Ferrari			  2

9.	Johnny Herbert		Lotus-Ford		  1

9.	Michele Alboreto	Footwork-Mugen		  1

9.	Mika Hakkinen		Lotus-Ford		  1

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From: madmax@maths.tcd.ie (Mark Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 Brazil Pick6 ramblings
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:07:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.

In <92098.123128JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu> JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu (Jonathan Swaby) writes:

>I do not know if anyone else noticed this, but ESPN showed Mr. Prost
>finishing in 4th place. What was he driving? Was it a Ferrari, McLaren or
>perhaps a Ligier.


No, it was the new Yugo.

Mark

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From: garr@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (guido.a.rijo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Long Beach - Mario
Keywords: One of the best
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:29:38 GMT
Organization: AT&T


>Does anyone think that Mario was one of the worlds great drivers? I don't
>think he was.

This is garbage. I agree that it was Mario's fault at LB. He should be
more carefull. At the same time, how can you say that he is not is not
one of the best drivers, look at his list of accomplishments. Did you
watch Speedweek at the end of last season when they asked the commentators
who they thought was the best driver including all different forms of racing?,
David Hobbs said Mario, yes Mario.
Are there any of his contemporaries that is faster than him at the moment?.
Accident happen, or do you think Mario wanted to take Eddie and himself out
of the race at the beginning of the race. Don't you remember that Al Jr,
took Mario out the LB race a couple of years ago. Should Al Jr. have 
retired because of that, NO WAY, I've enjoyed watching him drive since
then. 

Mario is not as fast as the new generation of drivers, but he is still
competitive. There are many other good drivers that have not won in
a long time.

Just think of all the glory an recognition that Mario has brought to 
the sport and the country over the years. Maybe if he had been born
here and had a better accent we would treat him different.


Guido Rijo
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From: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Subject: Re: Williams FW15
Reply-To: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 13:05:03 GMT


In a previous article, darshan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Darshan V. Bhatia) says:

>At this stage I would think it would be wise for Frank Williams to introduce his
>latest technological wonders in Patrese's car, one by one.  This would allow
>him to test them in a real race without risking Mansell's presently reliable
>finishes.  In any case, the williams FW14 is way ahead of the competition in    both performance and reliability.
>
>Of course, there would be team orders for Patrese to give way to Mansell at
>the finish line even if he (patrese) were leading.
>
>-darshan


No I've got a better idea, why don't you talk to Frank about introducing the
lastest technological wonders on *YOUR* car. That way if somethings goes
wrong while you're crusing down the highway and the ABS computer suddenly
decides to lock up your brakes and send you off a bridge no one will care. :-)

Seriously, they have Damon Hill to test these things out. Patrese has just
as good a chance to win the title as Mansell this year we are only 3 races
into 16, anything can happen. If Mansell wins the first 10 races, well that's
a different story.
>
From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re:    Where did everybody go?[NASCAR]
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:04:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims01.8APR199214041635
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92098.112414MKZ101@psuvm.psu.edu>, Matt Zika <MKZ101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>Where did all the Winston Cup people go?  Usually every week after a race there
> is some discussion about how it went.  My resources on getting information
>about qualifying, points, standings and general info. are limited.  Any info.
>that is posted or emailed would be greatly appreciated.
> 
>                                                    Thanks,
>                                                        Matt
> 
> P.S.  Bill Elliot will win the championship thia year.  (I hope.)

We're still here, its just that the Winston Cup points chase lasts longer 
than F1, so we let the F1 folks have the bandwidth until Nigel clinches the 
F1 drivers title (like June) :)

JD
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From: tvp53202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Toby Vaughn Padfield)
Subject: Miscellaneous ramblings....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:51:02 GMT

     Just a few thoughts on how I see the beginning of the year. Ligier
proved, yet again, that he is incapable of success in F1. Even though he is
using the Renault V-10, his cars are not very competitive with Ferrari, McLaren
Benetton, or Williams....Does anybody know if the new Fondmetal car is using
the Cosworth DFR or if they are using the HB motor? If they are only using
the lowly DFR, then their new car has got to be one of the best of the midfield
runners. Gabrielle Tarquini out-qualified the the two Jordan cars, with their
Yamaha V-12's, the Footwork's, with their Mugen-Honda V-10, and anyone that
is driving a Lamborghini-powered car....I am definitely looking forward to the
new Lotus. Both Herbert and Hakkinen have already scored in the points this
year, even though they are driving the same design Frank Dernie penned in 1989.
Chris Murphy should produce a decent car, and the Ford HB will definitely last
the distance in any race, so they should be regular point getters....What
happened to Michele Alboreto?!?!?! He has been dogging around the circuit for
the last few years like Nelson Piquet did before going to Benetton. I guess
there is still a little life left in him after all....Does anyone know what
the sponsor of Jordan, SASOL, does? Has anyone heard how Alessandro Nannini
has been of late? I know that he drove to a sixth place finish in the first
round of the Italian Sports Car Championship (is that the right name?), while
setting fast lap...after having tangled with his own teammate, Nicola Larini.
Kinda scary to think how Benetton would be doing with two chargers like Nannini
and Schumacher doing the driving!!!! As for Martin Brundle, he is not a bad guy
or anything, but has neither the luck, nor the ultimate talent to make it to 
the top (IMHO). Well, that's all for now!.............



TOBY PADFIELD
From: kevinc@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (kevin.j.coulter)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: SCCA flagging, whites
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:39:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Apr10.183913.26662
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr8.180705.8631@cabot.balltown.cma.COM> welty@balltown.cma.com (richard welty) writes:
>i'm planning to start working corners at some SCCA events this summer,
>as a way of being involved while i'm putting an ITB project together.
>anyway, i have no idea what a good source of proper clothing for corner
>working is; can any of the flaggers out there give me a pointer?

Welcome to the land of f/c! 

All clothes should be white. Here's a list of things you'll need: 
Pen
Jackets - always bring no matter what the forecast
White Pants - I have 2 thin pair, & 2 pair that are a heavy jean type,
              depending on if its warm or cool.
White shirts - Tshirts are fine. At some pro races you get them. As
	       long as there isn't a lot of yellow on them you're ok.
Sweat Shirts - see jackets. I always have 1 or 2 in my track bag.
Hats
Swiss knife - you'd be surprised the uses for this (cutting trees out of
              your way, etc)
2 pr Gym Shoes - for when 1 pair gets wet
Cooler - with ice, soda, and Gatoraid 
Membership card
Log Book
Photo Id
Pit Pass Protector - only certain races use pit passes
Sunglasses 
Gloves - Nomex
Ear Plugs
Whistle - with a breakaway plug on it
Rope / strap - for wrestling with those formula cars
Sun Block 15
Insect Repellant
Aspirin/Antacids/Small First Aid Kit
Ziplock/Plastic Garbage Bags - for putting your stuff in when it rains.
Rain Suit (top and bottoms) - Kmart $4.97 clear ones work fine. Buy 2
			      sets while you're at it.
GCR'S
Scanner
Binoculars - if you have a small cheap pair, these are useful for
             looking  for debris on the track.


Seems like I've got everything but the kitchen sink, right? I've used
just about all of the above at some point or other. A couple of times I
was glad to have the extra sweatshirts that stay packed in the track bag
for those cold fronts that weren't forecasted. I watch the weather
channel right before I leave the house for the weekend, and pack for
15-20 degrees colder than forecast. ALWAYS have rain gear, insect
repellant, and sunblock with you.

I use the compartments to my best advantage. For example, all of my rain
stuff (suit, plastic bags) is in 1 compartment. Starts to rain, I'm set.

I always go over my checklist of stuff before each race weekend in case
I've lost something.

Any other info that I could provide, lemme know.

				Kevin

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