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From: chenl@cbnewse.cb.att.com (julian.l.chen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Classical Guitars
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:33:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

[...Good recommendation deleted]

>Just for reference, I bought a Robert Ruck cedar top / rosewood back & sides
>in 1981 for $800. I was recently offered $3500 for it! The guitar is truely
>a fine instrument. I might sell it for $10000! There are deals like this out
>there and all you have to do is persevere!
>I never really pay much attention to scale length. Unless a person has
>unusually large or small hands, the scale length is more a luthiers concern
>than a players. But hey, its fun to talk about!
>
>Aloha,
>Rusty

You made a good move ! Robert Ruck is one of the best guitar makers in this
country. I believe the only makers that may have a bigger name in classical
guitar building in this country are John Gilbert and Thomas Humphrey. Don't
accept the $3500 offer. If you keep your Ruck in perfect shape, it is
definitely worth more. Ruck currently charges $3500 for his guitar but you
have to wait FIVE years ! And this is for the basic guitar, not including
some nice options such as Rodgers tuning machine and Brazilian rosewood.

In Japan, I know the current asking price for a Brazilian roswwood Ruck with
Rodgers machine is 1.5 million Yen. That is $12000 dollars, so your $10000
is not far from the truth. I envy you bought a such nice guitar for so
little.

Julian
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cpeckham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Peckham)
Subject: refret for acoustic
Keywords: acoustic guitar
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:17:53 GMT

My old acoustic guitar is getting a bit worn in the frets department, and
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this problem, and if so,
how have they solved it?  Are refrets for acoustics a common operation?
Is the character of the instrument likely to be significantly altered
(apart from less fret buzz)?  Is the fingerboard edge binding going to
have to be removed first?  How much will it cost (UKers estimates espicially
appreciated)?
               Look forwards to hearing your comments

                          Chris
From: ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Strap buttons
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:49:20 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

In article <SCHOUTEN.92Sep2131048@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu>
schouten@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten) writes:
 
>
>In article <DJM.92Sep2133224@jolt.eng.umd.edu> djm@eng.umd.edu (David J. MacKenzie) writes:
>>> Screw it into the lower side of the neck heel.  Going into the lower side
>>> helps the button to bind better.
>> I just had this done on my Yamaha acoustic at a local music shop.
>> Parts + labor was about $5.  They too said the bottom of the neck heel
>> was the best place for it, and I'm very happy with the location; the
>> guitar balances very well on the strap.
>Just out of curiosity, when you say `bottom of the neck heel', do you
>mean the back or the side nearest the high strings?
>
>Dale Schouten
>schouten@uiuc.edu
When in playing position, the lower side will be the side of the heel
that can't be seen when looking down at it.  It will be the side closer
to the high strings
 
brian
adcbb@vm.cc.latech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis)
Subject: Re: acoustic
Organization: NASA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:45:40 GMT

Veggie Star writes
> In article <26AUG199216354860@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>,  
scam@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JOE JR. SAGGIO) writes...
> >I recently bought a Takamine acoustic with built in pickup in the tailpeice
> >400.00. The direct sound is fantastic and when you combine the direct 
> >signal, straight into the board, with a mic input into the board the result
> >gives me a boner.> 
> hey joe,
> 
> didn't relize you were SO into your guitar. is that kind of 
> interest entirerly healthy?  ;-)

     See the common post on guitars vs. women for enlightenment on this  
subject.  :-)

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From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Guitar Refinishing (Suggestions)
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:07:07 GMT
Reply-To: ken@netmail.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


Likewise! I have a friend who is a very gifted artist. I've
talked with him about doing a custom paint job on one of my
electrics. Can he paint/airbrush right onto the existing
finish? What kind of paint (he thought acrylic) would work
best? Is there a covering he should apply/spray over the
finished artwork?


THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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"... watch from high atop Tokyo Tower as the twisted world
you created explodes in rivers of blood and endless pain..."
    -Tom Servo, announcer, monster action playset commercial
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From: uswsp@mathcs.emory.edu (William S. Pittard {EUCC})
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar
Summary: slide playing in standard tuning
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:47:46 GMT
Organization: Emory University

In article <1992Sep3.222220.17649@cabezon.uucp>, larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley) writes:
> >peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent) writes:
> >: 
> >:   The only person i've heard play slide in standard tuning is Danny Gatton,
> >
> >	Well, there's George Thorogood and his late mentor, Hound Dog
> >	Taylor. As far as I know, both use(d) standard tuning.
> >

Duane Allman used to play slide in standard tuning almost exclusively. 
Mick Taylor also played some slide in standard tuning. The guy that used
to play in FogHat - Rod Price, played slide in standard tuning as well.
From time to time, Ritchie Blackmore played slide and when he did it
was in standard tuning. I think that all of these players managed to get 
a very good slide sound even thought they were stuck with two or three strings 
at a time while playing. Part of the appeal of playing slide in 
standard tuning is to keep from having to retune during a set or having 
to keep another guitar that is "dedicated" to an open tuning. 

A compromise is to detune your high E string to a D and then play the 
high four strings with the slide to get something closer to the open 
G sound. this way , you only retune one string . 
Or you can tune the high E string up to an F and then treat things like
you were in an open G7 tuning. Just experiment and see what happens.
These tricks work fine for me and I use one of those "never stay in tune" 
strats.  If you have a guitar with a
lock nut on it and you like using the whammy bar, you can play games
with it to emulate slide quite nicely. Jeff Beck does this alot and
it sounds very close to slide playing. Of course, good left hand   
tremelo ability helps. Still, this doesn't work so well for full
sounding slide chordal stuff. 


Steve Pittard {EUCC}
Emory University, Atlanta, GA 
Internet: uswsp@mathcs.emory.edu   BITNET (non-domain): uswsp@emory
UUCP: { sun!sunatl, gatech }!emory!uswsp	
-- 
Steve Pittard {EUCC}
Emory University, Atlanta, GA 
Internet: uswsp@mathcs.emory.edu   BITNET (non-domain): uswsp@emory
UUCP: { sun!sunatl, gatech }!emory!uswsp	
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jpmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (jP M{kel{)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: nonstandard guitar techniques
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:16:55 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Aug29.183549.15413@tamsun.tamu.edu>, mds8539@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael David Slater         ) writes:
> Hmmm... According to the less than reliable "Hammer of the Gods"
> the 'gizmotron' was for Jimmy Page (they say who built it) and
> was a little box with an antenna.  As you get closer to the antenna
> the pitch would change.  In addition there was a knob that could
> adjust the 'source pitch' (speculation).  It is clearly seen on
> the movie "Song Remains the Same" when they play, I think, 
> Whole Lotta Love.  Page and Plant join a 'pitched' (pun intended)
> battle with one another, synchronizing their whines and screams in
> stereo effect.  Bonham and Jones just kind of look at them...


	THAT device is NOT a gizmotron, that is a theremin, named
	after its inventor, a Russian Leon Theremin. On eof the
	early electric instruments, it reacts to the position and
	movement of hands near its 'antenna' plates. Originally
	the thing was invented in the early twenties. Mr. Theremin,
	who is about 80 years old these days, visited U.S. couple of
	years ago and gave a performance.

	I remember seeing and early seventies' ad for a Theremin build
	by Maestro, then-well known effect pedal manufacturer. Anyone
	have one of these? I'd be very interested about a working unit or
	a schematic.

>                   
 jP M{kel{	({'s are a's w/ umlauts)	  jpmakela@cc.Helsinki.fi
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 every one thinks himself so abundantly provided with it, that those even
 who are the most difficult to satisfy in everything else, do not usually
 desire a larger measure of this quality than they already possess."
                                                               (Descartes)
From: jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:23:51 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent) writes:
: 
:   The only person i've heard play slide in standard tuning is Danny Gatton, and
: he plays it wonderfully.  I on the other hand, am having a hell of a time 
: trying to do it, but it can be done.


	Well, there's George Thorogood and his late mentor, Hound Dog
	Taylor. As far as I know, both use(d) standard tuning.

						-jPM
From: JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu(131.21.1.11) **
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:40:02 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

No...it's an FTP site.  There are MANY bands/musicians' songs in here, all
wonderfully tabbed or chorded. I will assume you haven't FTP'd before, but if
you have, then ignore this.

               type:  ftp ftp.nevada.edu
         the site will ask you to log in
               type:  anonymous       --> that's why it's called anonymous FTP
         the site will ask for a password
               type in your e-mail address
         the stuff is in directory /pub/guitar so
               type: cd /pub/guitar
         the site will acknowledge the change in directories and
             present you with a command prompt
               type: dir  --> this lists what's there
         to get a particular musician/band
               type: cd /pub/guitar/Pink_Floyd  --> if you were after Floyd
                                                                      stuff
         to list that directory
               type: dir
         to download the particular song you want
               type: get <song title> --> remember to type the title EXACTLY as
                                          written in the directory list...this
                                          goes for changing directories, too.
         the song will be transferred to your account, where you can print it
             at leisure
         to leave the ftp site and return to your normal place of computing
               type: bye or quit (depending on your system)

   If I screwed up in this description, don't anybody flame me...this is how I
   FTP stuff from there.  If it's wrong, let me know (although the process does
   work!)
                         Cheers,
                         Jean Prior aka jap8@psuvm.psu.edu
                         aka Chainsaw

 **** Penn State cares about my money, not my opinions. ****
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen)
Subject: Re: DO YOU PLAY GRIND??
Keywords: Grind.
Reply-To: rons@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Wet University of Chicago Campus
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:18:48 GMT


	The opening bit to "Grind" by the Church is:

(let all notes ring)
e-----1-------0--------1--------3--1------
B-------3-------3--------3----------------
G---2-------2--------2--------2-----------
D-0-------0--------0-------0--------------
A-----------------------------------------
E-----------------------------------------

	Hope this helps.


	Regards,

	Josh Ronsen

	rons@midway.uchicago.edu


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston)
Subject: Re: Django (was Re: Steve Morse, Steve Vai, Satriani, Robert Johnson)
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:31:23 GMT

-- 
Conrad Leviston	 | Got to find a brightness in the soul,
mongoose@yoyo.	 | Not look outside to find out where we are,
cc.monash.edu.au | Otherwise you won't be satisfied, 
Save the gherkin | 'Til you've made possession of the stars. (K.Wallinger)
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:7521 alt.guitar.tab:1915
From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Using a bow?
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:08:34 GMT
 <1992Aug28.154639.25147@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Aug28.154639.25147@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>,
rg@futserv.austin.ibm.com (R.G. Keen) says:
>
>Have you watched "Spinal Tap"?

Yeah. S'funny, innit?

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        Raymond Burr
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: spb0457@zeus.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Subject: Re: Which Fender Strat is best ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:22:00 GMT

Serge Ah Hee writes...
>I myself had a Squier, I thought the action on the fretboard wasn't as 
>good as a standard strat. The pickups are not the greatest. But it is a
>good beginner's guitar. However, if you have the money, get a standard
>strat. IMHO, always get the best guitar you can buy (I must ephasize CAN)
>You won't regret it...

+--------------------------------------SubG---------------------------------+
Actually, I actually favour my S. Strat to some Fenders that I've played.
Like I said, replacing the pickups is almost a must if you're planning to 
play seriously (i.e. for anyone's benifit outside your own).

Although it's kinda nice to be able to say that you're playing a real honest-
to-gosh FENDER Strat, many well-known guitarists use or have used Squiers
(Jeff Healey springs to mind--I believe his guitar-of-choice is still a
Squier, and I've seen Andy Summers and even Stevie Ray Vaughan play them
[noting, of course that they also use many other guitars, including Fenders]).

The Strat's a real good, reasonably cheap workhorse guitar.  Absolutely great
for introducing people to playing.  

But it is by no means the be-all, end-all of guitars.  Which means you
should probably by a Les Paul, too.









-SubG
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: What is an envelope filter
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:26:12 GMT
    <1992Aug24.192201.21716@dgbt.doc.ca> <2cxs02VO1fCK01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <2cxs02VO1fCK01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> drp40@cd.amdahl.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.192201.21716@dgbt.doc.ca>, serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee) writes:
>>My brother was wondering... what is an envelope filter? In the most recent
>>issue of Guitar World, it is used in the "Mysterious Ways" transcript.
>>I thought the were using a wah-wah. Can anybody confirm this?
>
>Wah-wah?  That's probably what they mean.  Usually envelope filters are wah-wah
>pedals which, instead of using a variable pedal, use the note intensity (how
>hard you hit the string) to intensify the wah effect.

i have a Boss T-wah pedal that does this effect.. in fact,
we do that song mainly cause i have the pedal for it :)

it's a neat pedal..  it'd good to kick on during leads,
cause if you tune it just right you can make your leads just
cut right through.. awesome

aash
-- 
aash@{ms.uky.edu|ukma.bitnet|ukpr}    "the only thing i ever really wanted to
{backbone|rutgers|uunet}!ukma!aash     say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong."
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Help:  Picking and Tuning
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:06:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug24.191824.1@woods.ulowell.edu> mugglestd@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>
>First, I play with a heavy pick and hold it with thumb, index and middle
>fingers. I have noticed that a lot of players just use thumb and index. I have
[stuff deleted]
>
>Second, I have major problems tuning. I had an electric tuner but I think it
[other stuff deleted]

On the first comment, I second another poster's comment about Steve Morse:
a recent issue of Guitar World had a lesson by Mr. Morse you might want to
look at.  He claims this holding technique also lets him use his index finger
for tapping, since he can shift the pick between the middle/thumb while he
taps, and back and forth quickly between picking/tapping.

Second: intonation, intonation, intonation!!!  If your git isn't set up right,
you'll be 'in tune' in some places on the neck, and out on others.  I used
to take my git once a month to a tech, and for $15 he'd re-string it, check
it all out, clean it, and re-intone it.  Well worth it, if you can find a tech
you trust.

Do it!

Michael Breen
singing and philsophizing
(and lamenting 'cause the shop my tech worked closed, dammit!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 21:30:17 CDT
From: <U53519@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: refret for acoustic

In article <1992Aug31.121753.2647@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cpeckham@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Chris Peckham) says:
>
>My old acoustic guitar is getting a bit worn in the frets department, and
>I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this problem, and if so,
>how have they solved it?  Are refrets for acoustics a common operation?
>Is the character of the instrument likely to be significantly altered
>(apart from less fret buzz)?  Is the fingerboard edge binding going to
>have to be removed first?  How much will it cost (UKers estimates espicially
>appreciated)?
>               Look forwards to hearing your comments
>
>                          Chris
Chris,

Some years ago I had the frets replaced on my classical guitar.  I had the
work done by a luthier named John Gilbert, out in California.  In addition
to installing new fret wire, he put a slight curve across the fingerboard
making the instrument far easier to play.  All the results were positive --
you couldn't tell by looking that the frets had been replaced.  The action
was better, the buzz was gone, and I was able to play far more power-
fully than before.  No tone difference -- just louder.

I had this work done so long ago that I can't remember the cost.  I would
suggest that you have a luthier do the work, as opposed to a run of the
mill repair shop.  Look for someone who makes instruments similar to
yours.

Cheers!

--Ray Sparrowe
From: rocker@csa.bu.edu (The Long Haired One)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: More RP1 stuff
Date: 23 Aug 92 21:29:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu's message of 23 Aug 92 19:03:03 GMT

>>>>> On 23 Aug 92 19:03:03 GMT,
  kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden) said:

|> 	OK, here is what is up with my RP1:  I was playing with headphones
|> on and I noticed that there seemed to be a LOT of NOISE when I played stuff.
|> If I tried to play softly then the noise would be there as well, but at
|> the same level as when I played louder.  Is this a problem with the RP1?
|> I tried eliminating effects like compression and distortion that would
|> obviously cause lots of noise and the noise remained.  The Noise Gate
|> would only kill the noise if nothing was being played.

I don't know anything bout the RP1, but far as I know noise gates do *not*
eliminate noise while you are playing. You adjust the threshold level so
that when your playing reaches a certain level of quiet it cuts in and
eliminates all sound to a real quiet. basically instead of having lots of
whitenoise in a quiet spot of a song the guitar will be quiet and not hissing.

Thats how I understand a noisegate to work, any corrections to that are
more than welcome.

-Rocker
rocker@cs.bu.edu
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Fender Strat Selector Switch
Date: 26 Aug 1992 20:45:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug26.163254.20083@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com> mongeau@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Mike Mongeau) writes:
>I'm having a minor problem with the pickup selector switch on my
>Japanese-built 1991 Fender Standard Strat.  If I happen to bump
>the switch while playing, one of the pickups will drop out and 
>I have to jiggle the switch to get it back.  There is also an
>occasional crackling noise when switching among the various
>positions. 
>
>My local guitar store said to get some electronic contact
>cleaner and spray it around the switch, which I did, but it
>really hasn't seemed to help much.    Any suggestions ??
>
[sig deleted]
Replace it, or have it done.  Shouldn't cost very much (~$20 for the whole
job I think would be reasonable).  Make sure you get a *good* USA-made switch,
and not some Japanese imitation...oh, sorry.

Michael Breen
singing and philosphizing
(and playing an 'American-made strat...not a cheap imitation', made in Mexico!)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent)
Subject: Re: Drumstick gutiar (bass)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:47:57 GMT


  Sorry man, but the Guitar up against the mic stand isn't as novel as you 
think :)  Hendrix used it in the 60's.  But that doesn't make your ideas any
less cool!  
  BTW  Danny Gatton plays slide with beer bottles(in fact that's all i've seen
him play slide with live, and on his album "Elmira St. Blues" he uses an Alka
Selzer bottle).

Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,rec.music.makers
From: rwanner@bcarh415.bnr.ca (Rick Wanner)
Subject: Re: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu(131.216.1.11) for 9/1 **
Reply-To: rwanner@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:45:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.055649.21280@nevada.edu> jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender) writes:
>	Waylon Jennings
>		Amanda c

I believe Amanda is a Don Williams song.

Richard Wanner    rwanner@BNR.CA     
(613)763-4159     BNR is not responsible for any opinions I have.
   "To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition." - Woody Allen