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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:06:00 EDT
From:         Jim Loomis <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ProWrite NEW

Paul,

I monitor the library listings on GEnie twice a week and haven't seen a patch
for ProWrite 3.3 yet.  New Horizons has always posted previous patches there as
soon as they came out.

A patch from 3.2.4 to 3.3 may not be forthcoming, however.  Generally, changes
in integer or first decimal have been termed "upgrades" available only with $.
Note that the latest GEnie Weekend News mentions a $20 upgrade from 3.2 will be
forthcoming.

Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
        Director, Telecommunications Facilities
        Roy H. Park School of Communications
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:33:55 METDST
From:         AMIGA@BANRUC60.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Windows 3.1

>
> Hello Bridgeboard users out there.  I have successfully installed Windows 3.1
> on my A2286 Bridgeboard and everything works fine except...

Oh, you could install it ?
I tried it too, and my mouse (amiga one, used for PC with amouse)
is not recognised by windows. I tried everything, without success.
Which mousedriver do you have ?

  Regards,

     Aeneas.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:00:33 -0500
From:         Arc Wave <arc@JUDY.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      BRU...

I always heard users complaining about HDBACKUP, so I did what some have
suggested and use 'BRU' from the shell.  It has a load of options, and seems
decent.  I did backup several directories to floppies, which worked fine.
I might end up using it as a backup utility.

The only reason I am even trying BRU is probably because I saw it mentioned
in UNIX WORLD Sept., 1992 "Look before you backup."

Paul
"Wonder if I can tell it to backup over the modem? hehehe SER: "

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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:46:28 BST
From:         d lamptey msc <lamptey@ACSE.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Window Startup

>I don't think the leave out option will work at startup

Of course it will. I use it to "leave" my Disk Park program icon out in the WB
 window
all the time. Just like it says in the manual.
The "leaving out" of the Presentation Icon should be _perfectly_ feasible. Or in
 the
WB startup drawer, I think...?

Derryck.

p.s. It is nearly 4 a.m. BST, and I am about to finish a 47 hour stint in the
 lab..
 Why? Today is the deadline for my thesis!!! I learnt more about LaTEX in the
 last 2
days than in the last three years!! (like \psfig, etc!!)
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:53:00 EDT
From:         Jim Loomis <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      Plea for Help

From:   IN%"MEDIA-L@BINGVMB.BITNET"  "Media in Education" 15-SEP-1992 01:59:28.3
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To:     IN%"LANE@ITHACA.BITNET"  "Stephen A. Lane", IN%"LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET"  "
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From: IANHART@HKUCC.BITNET
Subject: Video Toaster
To: "Stephen A. Lane" <LANE@ITHACA.BITNET>,
 Jim Loomis - Ithaca College <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>,
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Could someone please forward me information on US or British suppliers
of Video Toaster? Or any other suppliers in this region, for that matter.
Amiga seems to be remarkably poorly supported in Hong Kong and the
one shop I have found which sells Amiga 2000 computers has never heard
of the V-T.
I'd also be interested to hear feedback from people who have one in
operation in their TV studios.

Ian Hart
Centre for Media Resources
University of Hong Kong
ianhart@hkucc.hku.hk
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:01:00 CST
From:         Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: AmigaDos <--> CP/M file transfer?

>Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:04:27 GMT
>From: jmolinari@HAMP.HAMPSHIRE.EDU
>Subject: AmigaDos <--> CP/M file transfer?
>
>        Is there an AmigaDOS <--> CP/M converter anywhere?  I'm not looking for
>an emulator, just a file transfer utility, like PCCopy in the Extras disk.
>More specifically, this would be used to transfer files unto a KayPro II.
>
>                        thank you!
>
>                                jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu

I do not know of anyone who has written a cp/m filesystem for the Amiga,
but if you find one I would like to hear about it.  I think your best
but would be a null modem cable between the Amiga and the Kaypro.  There
is a version of Kermit available for the Kaypro (make transferring multiple
files a bit less painfull).  The other option is to get a program for the
Kaypro to allow it to read from IBM format disks.  There are several programs
in the cpm/dskult directory on wuarchive's mirrors/cpm tree which allow
cp/m systems to work with ms-dos disks.

Hope this is helpful.

-Lance
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From:         RICO JANSEN <JANSEN@RUUMTC.TCU.RUU.NL>
Subject:      RE: vi editor for the amiga

I have elvis, a vi clone, it looks rather complete. I got it of a ftp-site.
But I think it's on one of the fish disks too. Don't know on which one tough.

Rico Jansen
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:16:06 MET
From:         "(Evrard E.)" <eevrard@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Demo wanted

I used to have that wonderful "Vector Preview" demo by Taipan/Complex
on my hd. I lost it after having some hd-trouble.

This is the greatest vectordemo that I've ever seen! I want it back!
Is there someone who still has it or knows a site where it can be found?
(Archie found nothing)

Please send your answer to my e-mail address, as I'm no longer subscribed
to the list.

Thank you very much,

E. Evrard (EEVRARD@IS1.VUB.AC.BE)
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:36:12 PDT
From:         EBRUC@CATGSG.DNET.HAC.COM
Subject: Re: C compilers

Dan Riley writes:
>gcc has a full set of standard C headers and libraries (including stdio.h),
>derived primarily from the BSD 4.3-Net2 libc.a.  What gcc is missing is the
>Amiga specific headers and libraries, which are copyrighted by Commodore
>(and can be purchased from Dept. C of Commodore for US$20).  You can write
>working, generic Unix C code with gcc-2.2.2 alone, but you need the Amiga
>headers to do any Amiga specific programming.

Do you have any more specific information on how to contact Dept. C of
Commodore.
Thanks,
Ed Bruce
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:51:00 EDT
From:         DELANEYD@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      RE: More descr. re:kermit...

Andrew,

RE: Kermit and Jrcomm

        Sorry, my mistake.  I meant to say VLT and Term.  I guess I had been
on call for too many hours when I typed that.

        ->dave
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:17:27 CDT
From:         David McGhee <DMCGHEE1@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A4000 and A1200 (!!)

On Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:58:35 EST <BURTON@IPFWCVAX> said:
>If 3.0 was to run on a 3000 why would it be cheezy?  Shows some brains by CBM
>to
> have reverse compatibility.  There are other great features in 3.0 that aren't
>in 2.04 that 3000 or below owners can take advantage of!

Calling it 3.0 just because it was on an A4000...i.e.  if it had been
2.1 with someone doing a search and replace on 2.1 with 3.0.

As it sounds from the discussion here, you need the new chips for the WB3.0.
Or at least to take full advantage of it.

(Did I cover my *ss with enough asbestos or what... ;>  ).

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From: javhoori@INFO.VUB.AC.BE (Jan A. Van Hoorick)
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Subject: Re: Pipes in AmigaDos
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:34:01 GMT
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              92

If you are still using 1.3, your best bet would be switching to Arp, which has
the kind of pipes you want. I also believe the latest version of SKsh (a ksh-
like shell has real pipes; older versions use temporary files (as MS-DOS does,
by the way : since you can't multitask on an MS-DOS machine, there is no need
for or possibility of interprocess communication).

As for the implementation of pipes under AmigaDOS, I don't know much about that
but the main difference between Amiga pipes and Unix pipes is that AmigaDOS only

Hope this helps,
Jan
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:06:04 EST
From:         RenderMan <GILL@IPFWCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: A4000

For those wondering about the price(which we'll hear tommorow anyway)
A large mailorder house whom I know employees of, stated the price for the
A4000, with 5megs RAM and 200 megs of HD space, with the AA chipset, will
run retail $3600, and they have planes to sell it for $3000-$3400.

This is a source that can be relied on, it a source you see in 2 page Amiga
World ad's.

All i can say is if you want to upgrade you 3000 to a 4000, put it on the market
 now, as my guess is that 3000 prices will drop also.

Andrew
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:36:00 EDT
From:         Jim Loomis <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Window Startup

Rico,

I don't think the leave out option will work at startup -- at least I don't
know how to do it then.  Problem is, the user walks up to the machine, cold,
with a boot floppy in the drive, flips the switch and expects -- 30 sec later
-- to be "at the program."

BTW, I can't get Qed (v1.02a) to recognize the "startup.qed" file for defaults,
even though it is properly located in the same directory (o.k., drawer).  Works
o.k. on my 3000s and 2000s, but not on these 500s :? .

Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
        Director, Telecommunications Facilities
        Roy H. Park School of Communications
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:13:00 -0500
From:         flasar@WUGCRC.WUSTL.EDU
Subject:      A4000 and the Toaster

    Haven't seen anybody mention this yet -
    Is the A4000 Toaster-compatible?
    (or should it be - 'Is the Toaster A4000 compatible?')?
              Dan
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:06:51 -0400
From:         cultural elite <dsr@LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Beginners Guide To AREXX

A few minor suggestions...

BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.bitnet writes:
>label.1=' ';label.2=' ';label.3=' ';label.4=' ';label.5=' '
>label.6=' ';label.7=' ';label.8=' ';label.9=' ';label.10=' '

and so on...

really,

do i = 1 to 150
	label.i = ' '
end

should work.  But the fastest way is

label. = ' '

(note the trailing ".").  This sets the value for everything hanging off the
"label" stem to ' '.

>select
>   when start<3 then sline=0
>   when start<=6 then sline=15
[...]
>   when start<=30 then sline=135
> otherwise
>        say "sorry, invalid value for starting position!"
>  end

how about

/* % is integer division in REXX */
if start > 0 & start < 31 then sline = ((start - 1) % 3) * 15
else say "sorry, invalid value for starting position!"

>     Select
>                When begin=1 then operator=2
>                When begin=2 then operator=3
>                When begin=3 then operator=16
[...]
>                When begin=137 then operator=138
>            otherwise
>                     say "Macro Execution Failed!"
>end

Hmmm...I haven't traced through here carefully enough to be sure what you
are doing, but would something like

operator = begin + 1
if begin//3 = 0 then operator = operator + 12

work here instead of the select?  (these last two are typical lazy
programmer suggestions--I'd much rather find a nice incomprehensible
mathematical expression than have to type (or read) 20 line select
statements that do the same thing...)

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