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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: New A&M QB (was Lee Corso's prediction)
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:57:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: titan.1992Nov10.205724.9618
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin

mmarolda@NeoSoft.com (Mike Marolda) writes:

>In article <1992Nov9.221515.12262@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:

>>
>>  Another good thing was the receivers did not drop any passes (or very few).
>>This was hurting a lot.
>>
>As good as they looked, I thought Schorp (sp?) got tackled pretty easily.  
>If he'd stepped over a few shostring tackles,  I think the passing yardage
>would've looked much better.

They haven't had time to work on moves after the catch.  They've been too
busy taking fielding practice up to this point (keep the ball in front of
you, and keep the glove on the ground...)

>Mike (Sigh, I guess I've got to complain about something) Marolda

Indeed.



						Al
						alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
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From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Super Anti-Bama Anti-Michigan Fan(was: Re: Alabama better than Michigan)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:35:27 GMT

hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang) writes:

>In article <1992Nov04.224816.37346@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>>
>>I am neither an Alabama fan, nor a Michigan fan.  I do not dislike either
>>team (though, being from Purdue, I had to like last weeks game :-) ).. 
>>
>From the history of this newsgroup you seems to be a Canes fan.  That does
>explain a lot of mindless talks (trash, quasi-trash, woofs, quasi-woofs) on
>both schools.  Oh, please count the Huskies as well...

>Yea yea yea.  Canes's #1.  Would someone please stop stamping on Bama,
>Wolverines and the Huskies?  After the Huskies destroyed the Cardinals last
>Saturday, I don't think NOT A SINGLE TALK is necessary to claim who's #1.

>At least, until the New Year's Day...

>-Louis

>P.S. I've tired of negative advertisings:  Yell at all other school's football
>     teams, cry out how bad they are, prove how suck their opponents are.  Blah
>     blah blah.  Yeah, Michigan is playing the sorry Big 10 teams.  So what?
>     If you say Purdue is piece of shit, then what is TCU?

>     Save your energy.  Convince NCAA to have a playoff system.  It's more
>     constructive than spending time to argue what team is #1.  There is
>     *always* arguments to prove a team is #1.  And there is *always* 
>     arguments to prove a team is NOT #1.

Louis - Look what you just did !  You trashed Cane fans 'cause you 'think'
Mr. Meeks is one . That's negative !!!

Also, you say 'After the Huskies destroyed the Cardinals last Saturday,
 I don't think NOT A SINGLE TALK is necessary to claim who's #1'

Why didn't you save your energy instead of doing what you just said not to do ?

Justin Frederich
From: ds4@soc2.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Torretta for the Heisman?
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:51:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6844

In article <1992Nov9.140146.12704@lgc.com>, mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
|> 
|>  [Stuff about Torretta finding a way to win in crunch time.]
|> 
|> 
|> >>
|> >>Sorry.  In crunch time, some FSU joke tried to field a punt at the 1.  In
|> >         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >
|> >Um, actually, it wasn't the player's fault. He was told by "Mr. Choke" Bowden
|> >to try and make something happen. Of course, the wrong thing happened. Just
|> >another screw up by everybody's so-called "saint". Don't go blaming players
|> >for the fuck-ups of moronic coaches.
|> >
|> 
|> I stand corrected.  Of course, the point is still valid, i.e. that Torretta
|> did not "find a way to win" that game.

You stand corrected again....what do you call his game winning (PERFECT)
touchdown pass?  It seems to me that you are stuck on thinking that the saftey
won the game....well, since it seems that you cannot add, grab a calculator and
enter in 19.  Then subtract 2...if I am going to fast, that is for the saftey.
Now see if it is greater than 16.  If you get stuck, call me.

|> 
|> >
|> >Kevin
|> >
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Matthew B. Shostak              Landmark/Zycor
|> mbs@zycor.lgc.com               (512) 282-6699
|> "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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From: marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson)
Subject: Re: Nebraska and patsies --  C U later
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:24:15 GMT
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In article <1992Nov5.171514.21213@socrates.umd.edu> elfering@socrates.umd.edu (David J. Elfering) writes:
>(text ommitted)
> As a Husker fan I'm plenty nervous about Kansas. I remember nearly
>croaking last year when KU ran off to a 17 point lead before Calvin Jones
>just went wild on them. The Huskers went to #1 in the Sagarin ratings this
>week an din my mind that sets them up to take the big fall if they go into
>this game being a little too cocky. KU is for real and I'm expecting a
>smash nosed, grunt'n, spitt'n nails type of Big 8 clash out of this game.
>My only questions about KU surround whether they have enough depth to go 4
>quarters, and their overall team speed on defense.
>
>Dave Elfering   - A Husker fan in ACC land
>elfering@socrates.umd.edu (Univ. Maryland)
>
>
Coach Osborne has been saying, for a number of weeks now, that NU had to be
prepared for Colorado, but that the NU players and coaches would have to get
right back up and prepare for another tough opponent, in KU, the following week.
Osborne and his 'one opponent at a time theory.' I'm hoping that this is the
case, that NU is preparing hard for KU.  I can remember some major letdowns
after big games. Chiefly, I remember the OU game in '77 or '78 where we beat
them in Lincoln but then lost the next week to Mizzou (and earned an Orange
Bowl Berth against OU once again).  This is going to be a good game, you can
bet KU is going to be pumped, I hope NU is as well.
-- 
Mark Olson  || marko@IMD.Sterling.COM -or- uunet!sparky!marko
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl Game for Michigan State?
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:38:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1drnf4INNmt1
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <11NOV199210522811@scsuc.ctstateu.edu> aboufadel@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (ABOUFADEL,E) writes:
>
>Actually, there are a few Big Ten schools in this position, where a late 
>season win or two could give make them look somewhat attractive to a bowl.
>And the Big Ten teams have a reputation of bringing a lot of fans to these
>bowl games.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
   I think there are a few teams with small shots at bowl bids just because
   of the fan support issue. Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa and Indiana
   could all have shots at going. Wisconsin probably has the most "We'll go
   anywhere for a bowl as long as we can party," fans. Unfortunately, the
   team isn't holding up its end of the bargain. If Iowa finished 6-6, you'd
   think they might have a shot because they played a tough non-conference
   schedule. Michigan State might go somewhere just for taking second in the
   Big 10 and if Indiana wins 7, you'd think they'd also go somewhere.

   My guess is that Ohio State and Michigan are the only sure-fire Bowl
   candidates. MSU might be about 50/50, while Iowa, Indiana and UW would
   be longshots.

   --salty
From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: SWC Heisman Woofin'
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:56:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.Bx8B5L.GBB
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Nov4.204956.20191@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt) writes:
>
>Perfect time for a plug (sounds like Ross Perot, huh?).
>
>Lloyd Hill of Texas Tech for the Heisman.  Yes, I'm sure there's
>a media bias against giving anyone from the SWC the Heisman more than
>once every 20 years.  Who was the last SWC player to win a Heisman?
>Earl Campbell?  Or did Craig James win it?  Can't remember it's been
>so long.
Oh well, as long as we're woofing up the SWC Heisman Non-contenders:
Trevor Cobb of Rice for Heisman.  He passed Campbell last week vs. TCU
on the all-time SWC rushing list.  He's about to pass Dickerson and go
into second place on the list, and he has a good shot at passing Darren
Lewis as the all-time leader.  He's already the all-time SWC all-purpose
rushing leader.  And, of course, he's done all this playing behind the Rice
offensive line for the past four years.  Imagine if he had been playing
behind Michigan's collection of behemoths.  
>
>Paul (go Lloyd) Conditt
>
>Prediction for this week's game against Rice:
>
>Lloyd Hill 35   Rice  21 
Trevor Cobb 21 Texas Tech 17 
>


-- 
Tom Scudder                    tomscud@ruf.rice.edu
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Minnesota Wins in Mad City
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:20:24 CST

In article <1e0vt0INNmcm@early-bird.think.com> krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall) writes:
>
>The cheeseheads have be a little quiet out there SO...
>
> My prediction for Sat.'s game is:
>
> Minnesota 28 - Wisconsin 17
>
>Bring the Axe Home !!!!!!
>
>Tom
>Go Gophs !  Beat Wisconsin and Iowa !

Weren't you the same guy who laughed about Purdue at the beginning of the
year, saying something like "Minnesota is lucky Purdue is in the Big 10"?
Well, your woofing record isn't very good, so I ought to thank you in
advance for a Badger victory tomorrow.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rcaswell@eng.auburn.edu (Robin V. Caswell)
Subject: Re: Auburn--NCAA comes a callin'
Reply-To: rcaswell@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:04:51 GMT

In article 13233@infonode.ingr.com, knightb@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (William B. Knight) writes:
> In article <1992Nov09.135040.29426@cpqhou.compaq.com> chuckd@cpqhou.compaq.com (Chuck Dickson) writes:
> 
> >This is really all too funny.  I remember posting something about two 
> >years ago regarding a friends son who was recruited by Auburn and whose
> >family had been offered perks if he went there.
> >
> >I was shot down by the majority of readers on the net saying I didn't 
> >know what I was talking about, where's the proof, etc.
> >
> >Well, the NCAA's got the proof now.  Don't they?
> 
> Actually, no.  There were no allegations of recruiting violations in the
> NCAA's letter of inquiry.  All of the allegations were related to the 
> Ramsey case.  Apparently, Auburn waits until their players have played 
> awhile before paying them. :-)
> 
> Brad
> 
> >-- 
> >**************************************************************************
> >Chuck Dickson - Compaq Computer Corporation - chuckd@cpqhou.uucp
> >SHHHH...I'm hunting wabbit...eheheheheheheh
> >The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of my employer.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Brad Knight 
> knightb@abulafia.b21.ingr.com
> 


ACTUALLY, Guys, what Auburn and the NCAA are trying to sort through is:
 a) Did Pat Dye know about any wrongdoings during his reign as Auburns' AD ?
 
 b) Was Dye a participant in any of the alleged wrongdoings ?

 c) Is there, in fact, any substance to the accusations made by Eric Ramsey ?

 d) If the answer to [a)] is "yes", why then did Dye not report it or act upon
    it as the AD is supposed to do ?

 You also must ask these questions:

 a) What is Eric Ramsey getting out of this ? (USA Today reported that Ramsey and 
    his lawyer, the Honorable(sic) Donald Watkins feel "vindicated"...of WHAT???

 b) Why would the Auburn Alum and/or coaches pay a "sub-par" player for "sub-par"
    performance, IF in fact any payments at all were ever substantiated.

 c) How could any sane person keep a straight face while Ramsey explains that he
    "edited out the useless stuff" AND " I couldn't get a clearer tape because 
    Coach Dye has some machine in his office to prevent a clear recording".

 PUHLEEEEEZE!!! Get real, Man. IF IT'S NOT A FACT, then let's not get the rumors
 going......Speaking of which, I've heard alot concerning Auburn AND Alabama the
 past year. Don't post over the net or to the group requesting these, because I
 won't post them publicly......

--R.

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   no class, and no .sig ; all disclaimers apply.....Please post all flames to the
   "Re: Auburn- NCAA comes callin'"  in group alt.The truth according to E.Ramsey "
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
               

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Subject: Will the Hurricanes chicken out?
Reply-To: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:39:36 GMT
News-Software: NN 6.4.16

Well, Miami is #1, undisputedly (sort of).  And they will probably go
undefeated into bowl games, if they get by Syracuse.

Now if Alabama remains undefeated until the bowl games, then they will
play Miami in the Sugar Bowl, as per the Bowl Alliance.

BUT, I don't think Alabama will be undefeated, cause I think the Gators
will beat them in the SEC Championship game.

So, that leaves, undefeated Texas A&M and undefeated, but once-tied Michigan.

If Michigan continues to be ranked ahead of Texas A&M going into the bowls,
then the Hurricanes will have their option of which bowl to go to.

They will be able to choose:

The best matchup:
	#3 Texas A&M vs #1 Miami in the Cotton Bowl

or the "Mama, told me to stay home" chicken matchup:
	#7 Nebraska (10-1) vs #1 Miami in the Orange Bowl

What will Miami do?  Do what's best and play the higher ranked team,
or go for the bucks, the home field advantage and chicken out staying
home for Nebraska?

The reason is, if there is no #1-#2 matchup, the Bowl Alliance says that
the #1 team will have it's choice of where to play.

This will leave a real test for the pollsters because, if Michigan is ranked
#2 going into the bowl games, then there will be no #1-#2 matchup.  Should
the pollsters force a #1-#2 matchup?  "They have the technology."

Interesting...

Still hope for MNC for the Gators, with a LOT of help,

Joe Sosa

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   ----- ----  /--- |  Joe Sosa -- jsosa@encore.com -- Encore Computer Corp.
    /   /---   \    |  Go Dolphins, AFC East, AFC, Super Bowl...the road to #1
----   ----  ---/   |  Go Gators, SEC Repeat!!  Beat them Semi-holes!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman)
Subject: Re: WAR OVER!!!! MIAMI WINS !!!!!!
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:00:52 GMT

In article <26054@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>In article <!fA=Ag+@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>> 	Flame on?  Nope.  The Husky fans have too much class for that! 
>
>
> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Too much class? Now that's a good one!!
>Geez - until this moment I didn't even think they had a sense of humor never
>mind the slightest bit of class - I guess this "class" suddenly appeared
>when they had to realize that they are the second best team in the Pac-10
>this season huh? They'll most likely go to the Rose Bowl but everyone
>knows who really is the best in the Pac....
>
>

Actually I think this was all planned.  You figure U of A, throws
the game against Washington St., a and follows with the tie against
Oregon State.  If they'd beaten Miami, Miami would have plummeted
in the rankings, and there would have been no opportunity for a
rematch in the Fiesta.  This way, the best team in the Pac will
be playing MIami in the Fiesta, for the National Championship?
Probably not, but at least this way neither Washington nor Miami
will be #1.

Scott

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: cls4@ra.msstate.edu (Charles L. Spirrison)
Subject: MS State, Florida, Bama
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:21:34 GMT



A. On October 1, the Mississippi State Bulldogs POUNDED the Florida Gators.
   ... it wasn't even close.  Shane was simply rattled by the defense.
B. Mississippi State is currently 7-2.  The Gators are 6-2.
C. Florida is ranked 13 by USA Today/CNN, 11 in the AP.
D. Mississippi State is ranked 16 in each poll.

  .... something is wrong here

Also, it'll be interesting to see what happens as Bulldogs take on Bama.  
Logic dictates a 'Bama victory - but Jackie's troops play very well when
cast as underdogs (esp. at home).  -  My guess:  Offense is the key for
State.  QB Plump (or his sub) must have a good game.  A number of completions
will be needed to keep the Alabama defense honest, and to insure a productive
running game.  State's defense is good enough to keep the Alabama scoring down
PROVIDED that the defense isn't on the field much over half of the game.
The Bulldogs can win this game (with a little luck).  Maybe THEN they'll be
ranked over Florida!

cls4@ra.msstate.edu               GO BULLDOGS!
From: nlatif@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: PENN vs PRINCETON
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:22:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


GO QUAKERS!!!

:) :) :) :) ....

Azli
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 08:17:03 -0500 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Hobert, UW on the ropes.
	<1992Nov6.172427.8276@u.washington.edu>
Distribution: usa

>>I also read that if he is found guilty, they (UW) will most likely have
>>to forfeit all the games he has played in.  Wouldn't that make them 0 -
>>however many games he has played in?  Wow! So much for the #1 ranking or
>>can they still win being technically 0 - whatever, but still won all
>>their games?
>>
>>Susan Wagner
>>Colorado Buffalo fan in Pittsburgh, PA
> 
>Susan, have you been reading Beano Cook again?
> 
> 
>GT

Nope.  I believe I read it in a news.bboard (can't remeber which one, I
subscribe to too many).  Most of the news.bboards are UPI feeds.   I'll
try to find it and give better information.  If not, is this punishment
possible since it is Hobert that broke the rules and not UW?  But, last
year wasn't there a similar problem with a Nebraska player who wasn't
elegible and they had to potentially give up the share of the Big 8
title.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  These questions are not intending to
be flames towards anyone.  

Susan


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Question: PAC-10 tie-breaker
Originator: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 05:45:31 GMT

Just a question... NOT about who's going to win or what
anybody thinks about the race, but just about the tie-breaker
rules...          

If USC were to beat UA, and WSU were to win its final two games,
leaving the top three teams as

   UW   9-2
   WSU  9-2
   USC  9-2

who would go to the Rose Bowl?  There is no head to head advantage
here since it would be WSU over UW, UW over USC, and USC over WSU.
And I think they all would have two losses in their overal records
as well (although I think USC still has to play ND, don't they?).
What is the next tie-breaker... point spreads, common opponents?

Jim
Go Cougars, Vikings, Northstars!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA)
Subject: AT LAST: N.C. State beats Virginia, 31-7!!! 
Originator: sbanerj@c00750-400wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: Sanjeev Banerjia
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:57:27 GMT


Ending 6 long and often trying years for coaches, players, and fans, State
finally beat Virgina for the first time in 7 years, 31-7, at Scott Stadium.
The biggest monkey (perhaps) on the back of Coach Dick Sheridan's program has
been removed.

The game was typical of the series in that the team with the big plays won.
State ran in a blocked punt for a TD, returned an INT for a TD, had Anthony
Barbour jet 59 yards for a TD, and also had a 66 yard TD pass from QB Terry
Jordan to Reggie Lawrence.  The State defense played a classic "bend but don't
break" performance, yielding 400+ yards in offense to UVa but allowing only 1
score.

I haven't seen UVa play much this year, but they have apparently fallen a long
way from the team that blew out Georgia Tech early in the year.  Bobby Goodman
looked hopeless for most of the first half, often panicking when the pocket
collapsed around him.  Terry Kirby played well when he got the ball, but
hasn't returned to pre-injury form.  The most pleasant surprise for this State
fan was our ability to control the UVa defense, esp. one Chris Slade.  He was
largely a non-factor in the game.  Other UVa linemen did play well, but didn't
dominate the line of scrimmage as in year's past.

The marquee players for State really shined in this game.  Anthony Barbour
gained over 100 yards (again) and hopefully solidified a future 1st team All-ACC
position in the backfield; Ricky Logo was outstanding in the middle; all of the
linebackers played well; and Mike Reid delivered some of the big hits he's known
for in the secondary.

State is now in the drivers seat for 2nd place in the ACC and something other
than the Peach Bowl.  Remaining games are with Duke and a surging Wake Forest
team.  Frankly, the Bill Dooley Farewell Tour worries me a bit, but at least
for once the WolfPack controls their own destiny.

Obviously, my perspective is that of a State fan.  I'd like to hear (Charlie,
Jay)'s comments on the UVa performance.  And I'll certainly aknowledge we had a
few bounces go our way i.e Goodman's fumble.

Sanjeev
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