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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (I Spike - Therefore I Am)
Subject: All-Star Voting so far??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:30:37 GMT

i just saw some current stats on the all-star voting so far in the eastern
conference, and i was very impressed.  horace grant was in third place, 
behind scottie pippen and larry johnson for forwards.  i didn't think there
were that many nba fans out there with common sense.  

does anybody have access to actual vote counts?  if so, could they be posted 
regularly?  thanks.

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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: Suns file protest in San Antonio loss
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:50:00 GMT

if i heard correctly, bill walton said this weekend that the protest
had been overruled.  something about not allowing a the outcome of a
game to be determined by a "technicality."  it is not entirely clear
whether he was quoting the league office, or himself.

james

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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Good/Bad pick-ups (was Re: How dumb is Red McCombs?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:22:02 GMT

In article <C0K8zx.1K6@techbook.com> jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele) writes:
>
>	letting strickland go -
>	picking Lucas up +/-
>	PHOENIX picking up Barkely +
>	Phoneix picking up Ainge +
>	Gugs, Spreeeee, and Peeler +
>	G.S. getting Byron Houston +
>	Orlando picking Shaq, Char picking Alonzo

some more good moves I'd like to add:

Seattle picking up Askew for $$$
Clippers picking up Kiki for the $140,000 NBA minimum 
Denver signing Robert Pack! (another ex-blazer who has flourished)

Kind of reminds me , ex-blazers flourishing on another team.... didn't the 
Clippers let a lot of players gowho have since flourished in the NBA?
or at least who have come back to haunt them (which shouldn't be too hard 
actually so it's probably just my own imagination)...

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From: bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Brad "Boomer" Williams)
Subject: Re: IR rules
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:37:40 EST

	[ Mike Northam's solid analysis of the injured list deleted ]

To which Mike Lewis wonders:
>
>Well, then...why do they always say "five-game injured list" instead of 
>"injured list"?
>

	Well, I'm not sure which 'they' you're referring to, but the "official"
sources that I look at (usually the AP SportsWire transactions, or, barring
that, my local paper, or the McPaper) usually say something like:

PHOENIX SUNS:
Placed forward Charles Barkley on the injured list.  Signed guard Andy Phillip
to a 10-day contract.

	Or something to that effect.  Anyway, '5-game' injured list is just a
quantification (albeit a superfluous one) of the minimum time a player must
spend there.  There is only one injured list, and players must stay on it for
5 games minimum.


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From: kellerjb@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey Keller)
Subject: SCHREMPF is getting SCREWED by voters
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:23:14 GMT


If there is ANY justice, Detlef Schempf will make the All-Star team.  The 
following are the Eastern Conference forwards' stats through January 11.
The numbers in parentheses are the rankings or each player compared to the other
players on this list.  Schrempf doesn't even have 17,576 votes.  Looking at
these statistics, his only competition should come from Larry Johnson and
Scottie Pippen.  Sorry Dominique fans, but 20 games played aren't enough to
prove oneself worth of All-Stardom.  This is the 1993 All-Star game, and the
players should be All-Stars in 1993 (see McHale's stats).
 

           g   rpg(r)   apg(r)    ppg(r)   VOTES
Pippen    33   8.0(7)   6.7(1)   18.8(4)  170450
Johnson   30  10.3(3)   4.2(3)   22.6(2)   96965
Wilkins   20   6.7(8)   3.2(4)   27.7(1)   55879
Grant     33   9.5(5)   2.5(7)   12.7(9)   48856
Edwards   32   4.6(11)  2.5(7)   17.8(6)   34970
Coleman   27  11.2(2)   2.9(5)   19.2(4)   34391
Nance     33   8.7(6)   2.9(5)   17.8(6)   24896
McHale    32   5.2(10)  1.2(10)  12.4(10)  24270
Willis    31  13.0(1)   1.9(9)   17.6(8)   18762
McDaniel  34   6.1(9)   1.1(11)  12.4(10)  17576

Schrempf  32   9.5(4)   6.0(2)   19.8(3)

g - games played
rpg - rebounds per game
apg - assists per game
ppg - points per game
VOTES - actual number of All-Star votes at last count 


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From: terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: BOXSCORE:  Warriors 116 - Clippers 114 (OT) 12/16/92
Date: 8 Jan 93 04:16:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan8.041620.20645
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

gsw 116, lac 114   16dec92

MISSING: Offensive Rebounds

gsw (10-11)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
mullin,chris      32   6  15   0  1   1  1   -  2   6  0  2  3  0  2  1  0   13
hill,tyrone       32   4  10   0  0   5  5   - 10   0  5  0  1  0  0  0  0   13
alexander,victor   8   3   5   0  0   0  0   -  3   1  2  0  2  1  0  0  0    6
hardaway,tim      48   7  18   1  5   4  5   -  2  10  2  3  6  0  0  0  0   19
sprewell,latrell  42   7  13   0  0   2  2   -  5   3  4  0  5  1  0  0  0   16
gatling,chris      7   3   4   0  0   0  0   -  4   0  0  0  0  1  0  0  0    6
houston,byron      7   1   1   0  0   2  2   -  2   1  3  2  2  0  0  0  0    4
grayer,jeff       34   8  10   0  0   5  6   -  5   1  3  0  1  0  0  0  0   21
buechler,jud      28   4   6   0  0   2  3   -  7   0  2  1  2  1  0  0  0   10
pressey,paul      27   3   5   0  0   2  4   -  1   5  3  0  2  0  0  0  0    8
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
gsw totals       265  46  87   1  6  23 28   0 41  27 24  8 24  4  2  1  0  116
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .529   .167   .821       team rebs 10, team TO's 2

lac (12- 9)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
norman,ken        47   8  13   0  0   0  0   - 12   1  4  0  3  2  1  0  0   16
manning,danny     29   7  13   0  0   7  7   -  7   0  6  2  8  4  1  0  0   21
roberts,stanley    9   1   3   0  0   1  2   -  3   1  2  0  0  1  0  0  0    3
harper,ron        49  11  28   2  5   7 10   - 10   7  3  5  3  1  0  0  0   31
jackson,mark      52   7  15   1  2   6  8   -  2  13  3  4  3  0  0  0  0   21
vaught,loy        27   2   4   0  0   0  0   -  3   0  4  3  0  1  0  0  0    4
grant,gary        30   6  13   0  1   1  3   -  1   3  4  2  1  0  0  0  0   13
vandeweghe,kiki   14   2   6   0  0   1  1   -  1   1  3  0  2  0  0  0  0    5
jackson,jaren      8   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lac totals       265  44  96   3  8  23 31   0 39  26 29 16 20  9  2  0  0  114
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .458   .375   .742       team rebs 16, team TO's 1

gsw   23  31  30  24   8  -  116
lac   27  26  28  27   6  -  114

attendance 9921, time 2:42, officials: BOakes,BReichelt,JBorgia
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From: khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Wolves Year End Stats
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:42:28 GMT

Minnesota Timberwolves Cumulative Stats Through 12/30/92

		G  GS   M   FG      %   3FG    %     FT     %   OR  TR PTS  AVE
Person		24 24  964 186-417 .446 39-116.336  27-43  .628 49 191 438 18.3
Laettner	24 24  807 156-312 .500  3-14 .214 129-157 .822 53 197 444 18.5
Williams	22 22  806  96-236 .407  5-28 .179 145-159 .912 26  96 342 15.5
West		24 24  968 178-344 .517  0-7  .000  90-110 .818 31  80 436 18.2
Bailey		22  0  457  69-159 .434  0-0   ---  48-54  .889 11  69 132  6.0
Longley		24 15  505  67-144 .465  0-0   ---  31-40  .775 33 113 165  6.9
Spencer		21  9  314  26-63  .413  0-0   ---  22-34  .647 43  81  74  3.5
Smith		22  2  331  29-73  .397  0-4  .000  14-19  .737  5  25  72  3.3
Sellers		16  0  101   7-27  .259  0-0   ---   6-6  1.000  4  20  20  1.3
Blanks 		18  0  190  22-39  .564  7-13 .538  10-15  .667  5  20  61  3.4
McCann		22  0  303  42-77  .545  0-1  .000  17-29  .586 20  60 101  4.6
Vetra		 4  0    7   1-3   .333  0-0   ---   0-0    ---  0   2   2  0.5

MN		24 5885  888-1944 .457 54-186 .290 544-678 .802 290  972 2374
OPP		24 5885 1009-2073 .487 49-142 .345 519-695 .747 338 1027 2586

		AS  PF  DQ STL TO  BL  HI   
Person		114 66  1  26  77  10  28
Laettner	46  86  0  20  79  29  35
Williams	187 81  3  51  68  10  27
West		71  82  0  23  44  8   39
Bailey		21  31  0   7  24  16  18
Longley		31  87  1  22  45  37  19
Spencer		 4  57  1   4  17  23  10
Smith		49  24  0  13  17   5  12
Sellers		 4   7  0   1   8   2   4
Blanks		27  22  0   3   9   1  15
McCann		21  42  0   6  16  15  13
Vetra		 1   2  0   0   1   0   2
MN		586 597 6 179 438 156 119
OPP		618 575 9 233 339 142 131

-----------------------------
-Kevin Hansen----------------
-Minnesota Twin Family Study-
-University of Minnesota-----
-khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu----
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Contact: University of Minnesota Women's Basketball

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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE nyk30orl27.08jan93
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:50:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.201112.20371@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>orl (14-13)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
>tolbert,tom       18   1   3   0  0   2  2   0  3   0  1  0  0  1  0  0  0    4
>scott,dennis      41  10  19   4 10   5  6   0  1   2  3  0  3  1  0  0  0   29
>o'neal,shaquille  34  10  17   0  0   2  4   1 13   3  5  0  1  5  0  0  0   22
>anderson,nick     30   1  10   0  2   6  6   3  5   6  3  1  3  0  0  0  0    8
>skiles,scott      40   3  11   0  2   3  3   0  3   5  3  2  3  0  0  0  0    9
>kite,greg          9   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  1   0  2  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
>catledge,terry    22   3   4   0  0   4  4   1  7   0  2  2  2  0  0  0  0   10
>royal,donald      16   1   3   0  0   6  6   0  5   0  3  1  3  1  0  0  0    8
>bowie,anthony      9   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  2   1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
>turner,jeff       13   1   1   0  0   0  0   1  2   2  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
>green,litterial    8   1   2   0  0   1  4   0  0   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    3
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>orl totals       240  31  72   4 14  29 35   6 42  19 25  6 15  8  0  0  0   95
>FG, 3P, FT averages:     .431   .286   .829       team rebs 13, team TO's 1
>procedure technicals 1
>
>nyk   25  24  30  15  -   94
>orl   22  22  23  28  -   95
>
>attendance 15151, time 2:21, officials: PMihalak,GToliver,GWillard

Is there some rule that Orlando can never
have more than three people in double
figures in a single game?  TERRY CATLEDGE?!
. . .  'Looks exciting:  NY goes up by
twelve to start the final period, then
sets some kind of record for ineffectuality
and loses by a single point, with O'Neal
close to fouling out, but credited with
five blocks, and so on ...
-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: brune@luther.che.wisc.edu (Douglas A. Brune)
Subject: Re: goal tending a free throw
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:43:12 CST

In article <8521@news.duke.edu> fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith) writes:
>
>	What about dunking a free throw?  Can the shooter cross the line before
>his release but not touch the floor?  How about if somebody had *really* long arms :) and could reach the basket from the free throw line.
>-- 

Disallowed by one of the "Chamberlain Rules" put in when Wilt actually
started doing this.

Doug   brune@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: *All Star Game 1993*
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:24:31 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

>>		east: michael jordan, patrick ewing, scottie pippen,
>>		      shaq o'neal, mark price, reggie miller, 
>>		      joe dumar, isiah thomas, reggie lewis, 
>>		      kevin mchale(?), larry johnson(?),		      
>>
>    Well, substitute Blue Edwards for Isiah and I suppose I could go
>    for it.
     
     And now that I think about it, how about adding Drazen Petrovic for
     McHale. Jeez, that guy can play.

     --salty



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From: edfields@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIK DOUGLAS FIELDS)
Subject: NBA League Salary Cap
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:38:03 GMT

What is the NBA salary cap?


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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: Re: IN MEMORIAM: Johnny Most
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:33:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.220740.19232@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> dewey@ccs.northeastern.edu (Dwight S Flewelling) writes:
>
>  Sorry to stick my nose in here, but Nate, You're wrong !
> originally Most called them McNasty and McDirty, later a writer changed
> McDirty to McFilty, but that wasn't Johnny.
>
>-Dewey ( a Life-long Johnny Most fan)

 my mistake.

- nate
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From: cogar@cogarmac.nswc.navy.mil (John R Cogar)
Subject: Re: YATR (Yet Another Trade Rumor)
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: NSWCDD
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:20:38 GMT

In article <OLIVER.93Jan11034648@ballard1.mit.edu>, oliver@athena.mit.edu
(James D. Oliver III) wrote:

> For one thing, you lose depth--two regular rotation players for one player
> who may or may not be in your rotation, and a rookie to boot.  You're
> already playing one rookie (Dumas) regularly.  And what happens if KJ goes
> down again?
> 
> Finally, what kind of contribution do you really expect from JJ?  He's out
> of shape, has missed camp.  As a comparison, Sean Elliott his first year
> averaged just over 10 points per game, this as a starter playing a lot of
> minutes.  JJ won't come close to matching that.

We CAVS fans have been trying to come up with a way to get JJ for about a
month now.  Rumors included: Danny Ferry and 1st round pick, Ferry-T.
Brandon, and many others.  We came up with the same conclusions.  (Yes, we
believe the CAVS can win it all this year).  JJ would have been a great
addition for any team if you could have him from training camp on.  Now, I
think he would hurt more than help in the short term.  

Remember also, that he turned down 6 years $24 mil with Dallas.  I don't
know what the Suns' salary structure looks like, but the CAVS are so far
over the cap that I don't think they could come up with anything like that.
 

For the guy who doesn't know who JJ is--you got to watch more college
basketball pal.  

John R Cogar                 | Always expect the worst.
cogar@mv5.nswc.navy.mil      | That way you won't be disappointed.
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From: markham@brtph597.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: was Re: Paxson sucks (was Re: Phoenix is absolutely scary...)
Organization: BNR Inc. RTP, NC
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:04:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.141939.9707@iscsvax.uni.edu> baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>In article <mt#@byu.edu>, jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan6.150350.7745@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph597.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>>>Pippen has improved in each of his last 5 seasons:
>>>
>>>Year   FG%   FT%   RPG  APG  PPG
>>>87-88 .463  .576   3.8  2.1  7.9
>>>88-89 .476  .668   6.1  3.5 14.4
>>>89-90 .489  .675   6.7  5.4 16.5
>>>90-91 .520  .706   7.3  6.2 17.8
>>>91-92 .506  .760   7.7  7.0 21.0
>>>
>>>And he's currently on track to improve his RPG and APG again this season.
>
>Getting back to the original thread (whether or not John Paxson "sucks")
>Does anyone have his stats for the last 5 years or so.  I think they will 
>show a man in the decline of his career.

Year   FG%   FT%   RPG  APG  PPG
87-88 .493  .733   1.3  3.7  7.9
88-89 .480  .861   1.2  4.0  7.3
89-90 .516  .824   1.5  4.1 10.0
90-91 .548  .829   1.1  3.6  8.7
91-92 .528  .784   1.2  3.0  7.0

With Pippen's points TRIPLING over those five years (and Grant's DOUBLING
7.7 -> 14.2, and BJ's increasing over the last 3) you see a man who gets 
the ball in his hands less and less every year.  

Considering how he's been splitting time with BJ over the past two seasons,
it's amazing his per-game stats haven't fallen dramatically. 

Decline?  I don't think so.

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
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From: data@leland.Stanford.EDU (Amit Nandan Aggarwal)
Subject: Re: Paxson sucks (was Re: Phoenix is absolutely scary...)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 00:22:06 GMT

Um, I believe he was talking about KARL Malone.  (Where is Moses right now, by the way?)
From: robinr@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (ROBIN RYAN NEIL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: BOXSCORE cle31nyk29.05jan93
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:01:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1iig9dINN73m
Distribution: world
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

cle 91, nyk 95   05jan93

Technicals:
       mason 9:07 fourth

cle (18-13)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
nance,larry       38   4  12   0  0   3  3   2  7   0  5  0  2  3  0  0  0   11
sanders,mike      34   6  10   0  1   3  4   1  4   1  3  4  3  0  0  0  0   15
daugherty,brad    45   7  13   1  2   6  8   1  8   5  3  0  2  0  0  0  0   21
ehlo,craig        35   4   6   1  2   4  6   0  1   2  3  0  1  0  0  0  0   13
price,mark        33   7  13   1  3   4  5   1  2   2  3  3  4  0  0  0  0   19
ferry,danny       19   0   6   0  0   0  0   0  5   2  4  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
wilkins,gerald    21   3   7   0  0   1  1   1  4   1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    7
brandon,terrell   15   2   5   0  0   1  2   0  1   1  3  0  1  1  0  0  0    5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cle totals       240  33  72   3  8  22 29   6 32  14 25  7 13  4  0  0  0   91
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .458   .375   .759       team rebs 11

nyk (19-10)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
oakley,charles    22   3   7   0  0   0  0   2  5   0  4  0  1  0  0  0  0    6
smith,charles     37   8  20   0  0   6 10   6  8   1  3  1  1  1  0  0  0   22
ewing,patrick     35  10  21   0  0   1  2   7 13   2  5  1  3  0  0  0  0   21
anthony,greg      31   2   8   0  1   4  5   1  4  12  2  1  2  0  0  0  0    8
blackman,rolando  29   5  11   0  2   0  0   0  0   3  2  2  0  0  0  0  0   10
starks,john        6   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  1   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
mason,anthony     36   6   9   0  0   5  5   6 11   2  2  0  3  0  1  0  0   17
williams,herb     11   0   3   0  0   0  0   0  4   0  1  1  0  1  0  0  0    0
rivers,glenn      17   2   5   0  0   0  0   1  3   2  4  2  3  0  0  0  0    4
davis,hubert      16   2   4   0  0   3  4   1  2   1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    7
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nyk totals       240  38  89   0  3  19 26  24 51  23 24  8 13  2  1  0  0   95
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .427   .000   .731       team rebs 10
procedure technicals 1

cle   23  24  31  13  -   91
nyk   27  24  19  25  -   95

attendance 19763, time 2:03, officials: ETRush,BFryer,ROlesiak
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Kings go nuts!
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:50:12 GMT

In article <C0Aywt.8I@inews.Intel.COM> gbennett@frx784.intel.com (gbennett) writes:
			.
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>Actually, Coach St. Jean runs a half-court offense much of the time.  I was at
>the Kings/Mavericks game, and a lot of the fast break opportunities came off of
>turnovers forced by a vastly improved defense.
Does that include Tisdale?

Someday, someone will understand how to
communicate the importance of defense to
the Duckworths and Chapmans and ... of
the world--and the memories of Auerbach
and Riley will fade.
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-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
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From: n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: YATR (Yet Another Trade Rumor)
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:47:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan10.204735.5031
Organization: Western Washington University

toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) writes:


>     I'm generally the last guy on the net to encourage this sort of
>     rumor, but this one comes from reliable enough a source to be worth
>     reporting:  It seems the Phoenix Suns have stated that they have
>     been talking with Dallas regarding a possible trade of Negele
>     Knight, Cedric Ceballos, and Jerrod Mustaf for the rights to Jimmy
>     Jackson.

>     Tony

>Who is Jimmy Jackson? He can't be worth getting rid of Knight and Ceballos.

He'd be a bargain for those 2. JJ is an incredible shooting guard from Ohio
St., drafted by the Mavs as the 4th pick. There's a reason he was drafted
ahead of LaPhonso Ellis, Yom Gugliotta, Clarence Weatherspoon, etc. As a
Sonics fan, I really hope this rumor doesn't have merit. Phoenix doesn't
need this kind of help.

-Brian Harper
n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu

>toma@tc.cornell.edu	rory@foopub.tucson.az.us
>You want me to upgrade to System what?
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