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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:30:25 EDT
From: <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: [F] Serpae Tetra beating the tar out of goldfish!?
 <1992Sep02.082255.19568@Veritas.COM> <92246.115959HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <JOANM.92Sep5195034@moe.coe.uga.edu>

In article <JOANM.92Sep5195034@moe.coe.uga.edu>, joanm@moe.coe.uga.edu (Joan
Maxfield UCNS) says:

 (in reply to my original post)
>>  So know I am faced with the awful choice of returning the Tetra (which are
>>  a beatiful fish!) and getting....coucgh...gag....another fancy goldfish.

>        Or, of course, you could get another tank for the goldfish!
>        Heck, what's one more at this point?

>Joan (working on tank #5, shoot me quick before it's too late)

I recently moved from a four bedroom house with a huuuuuuuuge unfinished
basment to a two bedroom apartment (on the ground floor so I could keep
my 70g reef...).  I have almost no room to turn around, let alone room for
more tanks.  But hell, who need a kitchen anyway.  ;-)

I've transisted from 6 tanks to just 2.  One reef, one with goldfishies.
(which, by the way (since removing the tetras and replacing with another
fantail oranda) seems to be the latest hothouse.  If I didn't know better,
I'd say the fishies were getting horny with each other.  Rubbing against
each other and twisting and writhing, etc.....)

Which leads to my next question:  I've bred lots of mollies (mostly by
accident) and guppies, but have never bred goldfishies.  Any advice
or comments?  What type of behaviour do they exhibit?  Hmmmnn.  ;-)

Hans C. Masing | HCM100@PSUVM.psu.edu  | Penn State University MIS Dept |

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"God is crying."  And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to
tell him is "Probably because of something you did."  - Jack Handey
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From: cliff@watson.ibm.com (cliff)
Subject: Felt, Lava Rocks, Lead		
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 23:52:59 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: A

1. There's been a few posts on metal stands and glass tanks.  Is it highly
recommended to put felt between the bottom of the glass tank (110 gallon)
and the frame of the metal stand?
		
2. Are there any pros or cons for using those brown "carved out" lava rocks
in fresh water tanks?

3. Plant weights are often made out of lead.  Any problem with putting lead
in a fresh water tank?

Thanks
From: weekley@helios (Don Weekley)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Hex tank suggestions
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:28:55 GMT
Organization: Ohio University ASCGL, Athens

Hi folks,
	I am contemplating purchasing a 60gal Hexagonal tank,
and wanted to get some suggestions about what is best to look
for in terms of equipment (filters, lights etc.), plants and
fish mixes that would work best in such a tank. I am looking
to set up a FW, community tank. One with a nice mix of different
fish and plants.

	I am considering a hexagonal tank because of space 
limitations in my home. I have to set it up in a tight corner
and can't let it stick out.

	Thanks a lot in advance.
					-D.

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From: chris@unislc.uucp (Chris DelPrete)
Subject: [F] Neons/cardinals color variation from night to day
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Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:24:33 GMT

Can anyone tell me why the following occurs: I turn my tank light on in the
middle of the night (with some warning, such as flipping on the room light
first) and the cardinals and neons look very washed out with one very dark spot
in the middle of their bodies. The red is almost nonexistant, and the blue
seems to have gathered within this dark spot.

Within about 20 minutes, their color has resumed a normal appearance.  

Why?  
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From: wkb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wm.keith.brummett)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: UGF & power rig??
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:42:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Sep6.154231.12789
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


    In article <4SEP92.12102939@wums.wustl.edu>, trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
    writes:
    > I've just read quickly some of the FAQ's from this group and I must
    > say thank you and cheers for a wealth of information.  One thing I
    > did not see mentioned in faq or thru postings is the idea of hooking
    > up a regular power hang-on-the outside-of-the-tank filter to upright
    > tubes of a ugf.  Has anyone tried this?  I would think it would be
    > easy to do with tygon(or other) tubing?  It sounds like a great idea
    > - anyone know of drawbacks?

    Bev,

    The idea is sound, but the implementation is tricky.  The problem is
    that most common external power filters (EPFs) have a powered intake,
    and rely on an overflow channel to get the water back into the tank.
    If you were to just connect the intake pipe of the power filter to the
    UGF's lift tube, you'd be effectively using the UGF as a mechanical
    prefilter for the EPF, since water would flow down through the gravel,
    under the plate, then up into the EPF.  This is exactly the opposite of
    what you want to do.  (If you say "but isn't that what happens normally
    in a UGF", then yes, you're right!  That's the main flaw of a UGF -- the
    mechanical trapping of crud in the substrate.)

    What you want is an EPF that has a powered *output*, and relies on a
    siphon (or some other mechanism) to supply water on the intake.  There
    are a couple of Supreme EPFs that do this (AquaMaster? AquaKing?).  The
    output is a pipe that attaches directly to the EPF's pump.  When you
    attach this pipe to the UGF's lift tube, you get a reverse-flow UGF
    (i.e. the water gets mechanically prefiltered by the floss in the EPF,
    then goes down the lift tube, under the plate, and *up* through the
    substrate).  This keeps a lot of the crud in suspension so that the EPF
    can get it (and the EPF is a lot easier to regularly clean than is the
    UGF).  A lot of folks use small cannister filters to power RF-UGFs.

    If you had to use an overflow-type (passive output) EPF, I suppose you
    could try to funnel the output into a fairly wide, open, stand-pipe
    implementation of a lift tube, and just let gravity move the water down
    and through the UGF.  This would be a really low-pressure RF-UGF.  Some
    have used such things with success, but I have no experience with them.
    I would also suspect that this would require the water level in the tank
    to be kept a couple of inches below the rim, which may not suit you.

    Good luck.   -- Keith

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From: weekley@helios (Don Weekley)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: oops! bad return address
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:31:52 GMT
Organization: Ohio University ASCGL, Athens

My return address should read:

		weekley@helios.phy.ohiou.edu

My post was a request for info on setup of a large hexagonal
FW, community tank.

Sorry for the bad address my sysadmin (me) is an igit and
hasn't fixed it yet.

				-Don

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From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Protein skimmers [M][F]
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:45:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN

mark@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Mark D. Collier) writes:

: I am planning to add a protein skimmer to my 160 gallon tank. I currently
: have a home-grown wet/dry for bio filtration. I have heard that protein
: skimmers are pretty much essential for tanks with inverts. Anyway, what
: are the best types of skimmers? The local aquarium shop recommended an
: Oceanic venturi skimmer, which seems like a great design, but is also
: very expensive ($280). If venturi skimmers are the way to go, has anyone
: had any luck buying just the skimmer and hooking it up to a power head?
: Also, are their any other venturi skimmers available other than Oceanic?
: Finally, what would it take to build your own venturi skimmer?

: Thanks in advance.

I have a Amiracle PS-2 on my 16 gallon tank with a Hagen 201 powerhead
driving it.  Works great!  Amiracle does make larger skimmers though.
I paid about $35 for mine (dealer cost).  MOPS does offer the Amiracle
line including skimmers that can be purchased as a combo.  Skimmer and
powerhead.  I believe they sell the PS-2 and a 201 together for about
$75.
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From: Alan_Schianni@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan Schianni)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: feeding piranha
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:12:08 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

I have a  5-month old piranha and I'm against feeding my fish other fish
species.  I have raised him so far on a diet of earthworms and beef.  He
definitely prefers the earthworms to the other sorts of food, yet earthworms
are very troublesome to find- especially through winter months.  It seems he'll
eat the beef but only in certain moods.  I'm wondering if anyone has
recommendations as to what to feed my fish that has all the essential nutrition
for long life.  Aside from his eating habits, he is a very healthy fish.
From: wmack@en.ecn.purdue.edu (William J Mack)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Bala sharks
Keywords: none
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:11:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

A few of the previous articles had some discussion about bala sharks, which
brought some questions to mind.  I have 2 sharks in a 20 gal, one clearly 
dominates over the other.  My questions:  Are they schooling fish, would buying
2 or 3 more keep them from dominating each other?  I have had them previously
(one pair) and never observed the domination game, most of the time very tran-
quil fish.  Any advice appreciated.  wmack@en.ecn.purdue.edu
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Subject: Re: Topless in Safeway
From: phoogenboom@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:01:24 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <HERMIT.92Sep8222349@am.ucsc.edu>, hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:
> I saw a very unexpected sight recently: a topless woman shopping in
> Safeway (a large supermarket, for those of you in other parts of the
> world)!  Santa Cruz is known for its liberal attitudes on many topics,
> but I never thought I would see that!
> 
[...]
> Unfortunately, after witnessing some scurrying about by young male
> employees, I later saw her wearing a shirt, so my guess is that
> someone asked her to cover up.
> 
> But she didn't get in any legal trouble, as far as I know.

Most health codes require shoes and shirts of all patrons of all restaurants
and grocery stores, and any other place that sells food, for that matter.  Does
anyone know why this is?

Peter Hoogenboom
phoogenb@ucs.indiana.edu
From: blais@ut-emx.uucp (Donald Blais)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Disc. against singles esp. men (was Re: FIRST TIMER REPORT. )
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:14:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

In article <17u02nINNmh@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>Obviously this can be taken to an extreme (ex: Entrance fee, $100/day, but
>we give women and couples a $90 discount).  I don't know what, if anything,
>the law says about that.  Seems to me some guy sued a bar a number of years
>ago because they gave women free drinks during happy hour, he claimed it
>was discrimination against men.  Don't know the outcome, any law students
>want to look it up?

UPI reports of June 13, 1984 read that a Dallas nightclub, Monopoly's
Park Place, agreed to a "separate but equal" free drinks for men
during the afternoon happy hour.  The owner said they would continue
to serve free drinks only to women during night and weekend hours.
The city's comsumer affairs division said the city would enforce the
anti-discrimination law only on a patron's complaint.
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Swimsuit-optional hours at the Caltech pool?
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:23:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <1992Sep6.030843.26019@access.digex.com> bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
>It's the usual thing. 'Think of what everybody ELSE would say!'
At Caltech, can't you invoke the ghost of Richard Feynman and his book
titled "Why do You Care What Other People Think?"?
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From: beigel-richard@CS.YALE.EDU (Richard Beigel)
Subject: Re: coed bathrooms
Keywords: bathrooms flame
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:54:09 GMT


In article <1992Sep10.174444.11518@unislc.uucp>, kbiesel@unislc.uucp (Karen Biesel) writes: ...
|> [Regarding urinals,] they are only
|> useful to men.  Why are you spending money and using up room putting
|> a fixture in a coed facility that only 50% of the people can use?

The notion that no identifiable group of people should be allowed to
use any device that benefits only them was once common among
Yugoslavian socialists and appears not to have completely died out
among some Americans with small minds and chips on their shoulders.
Considering that a urinal takes 1/5 the space, costs 1/4 as much to
maintain, and is twice as efficient for urination as a toilet, most
people would think that they are a wise investment.  They cut down on
the time you have to wait for a stall.

|> How about we give all men an operation to reroute their colon so they
|> shit out their side....

If you hate men why do you live in coed dorm?  If you don't live in
a coed dorm why do you care what goes on there?
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From: hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Topless in Safeway
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:23:49
Organization: Computing and Telecommunications Services, UCSC
Distribution: world
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I saw a very unexpected sight recently: a topless woman shopping in
Safeway (a large supermarket, for those of you in other parts of the
world)!  Santa Cruz is known for its liberal attitudes on many topics,
but I never thought I would see that!

For those of you not familiar with Santa Cruz, California, USA: it's a
beach community of about 50,000 people about 100 miles south of San
Francisco.  A couple of relatively famous nude beaches--Bonny Dune and
Red, White, and Blue--are located just north of town, and one
relatively unknown and small beach is located a stone's throw south
from Natural Bridges State Beach.  Lupin Naturist Resort is located
nearby, and in town there is a clothing optional hottub/sauna/massage
place known as Kiva Retreat House.  The political atmosphere is
largely "progressive" (liberal), and the police department has a
policy of not citing for indecent exposure unless there's a serious
complaint or the person is being rude about it (e.g. flashing people).

But even with all this, it was strange to see a topless woman in a
supermarket!  Granted, she wasn't a supermodel by any stretch of the
imagination--it was obviously not exhibitionism that motivated her.
Unfortunately, after witnessing some scurrying about by young male
employees, I later saw her wearing a shirt, so my guess is that
someone asked her to cover up.

But she didn't get in any legal trouble, as far as I know.
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From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: Re: Curiosity (was Re: how about CO in a computer lab??)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:44:16 GMT

middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:

>                And, if the attraction to breasts is sexual, why aren't
>we having a discussion about vaginas?  
 
Good point!  why don't we extend the conversation to both the penice
(sp? wow I never had to spell it before!)  and the vagina and
comparisons on both genders fascination with them.  Personally, I find
the vagina just as intrigueing and exciting as the breasts.

Jim
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From: D5JW000 <D5JW@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: test
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 14:22:12 GMT

>Help! Every time I post to this group I never see the result...
>does anyone out there here me?
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>.
>.
yes I can "here" you my dear,
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From: kbiesel@unislc.uucp (Karen Biesel)
Subject: Re: Topless in Safeway
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:05:04 GMT

hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:

>I saw a very unexpected sight recently: a topless woman shopping in
>Safeway (a large supermarket, for those of you in other parts of the
>world)!  Santa Cruz is known for its liberal attitudes on many topics,
>but I never thought I would see that!

>But even with all this, it was strange to see a topless woman in a
>supermarket!  Granted, she wasn't a supermodel by any stretch of the
>imagination--it was obviously not exhibitionism that motivated her.
>Unfortunately, after witnessing some scurrying about by young male
>employees, I later saw her wearing a shirt, so my guess is that
>someone asked her to cover up.

Naw, she probably got cold. 'Tis a bit nippy down the freezer isle.

Karen Biesel
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Coed Bathrooms
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:51:52 GMT
Organization: TFS

wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>	I often :-) attend the large concerts given by a certain 
>rock group, and usually by the second set there are as many women in 
>the men's room as men.  Certainly by the time the show is over.  No one
>seems to have a problem with the guys using the urinals; you don't really 
>expose yourself anyway.  

A rave I was at recently, a woman was standing at the sinks in the men's room.
One guy had to wait to use a stall to avoid the urinals in her plain view,
and another guy turned and left.

Someday people in our society will not be afraid of each other's intentions.
I hope we'll provide privacy for people who really do need it though.
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Naked Politicians
Keywords: sunshine
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:17:24 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <> ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes:
>Well, I have an interesting proposition. On top of having cameras in the
>House, Senate and the committees, they should do their business in the nude.

I have to agree with you on this one Eric.  I'll avoid tacky references to
things like "exposing corruption" and "baring the truth" but I do think the
state of this nation would improve if politicians were required to be nude
when in session.

>(1) On the idea that women would watch in, the men might behave.

After seeing the Senate hearings on that Thomas thing I am not sure
anything will make politicians behave, they act like children in front
of cameras.

>(2) On the idea that the current crop is - slightly anesthetic, shall
>	we say, the voters might vote younger men and more women into office.
>(3) On the idea that it'd be more fun to watch, more people would
>	participate.

I am not looking forward to seeing Sen. Alan Cranston naked.  Fortunately,
he is on his way out.  Can you picture Tip O'Neil naked?  This would definitely
affect voting habits. Might even get more people involved in the voting process.

>Somehow this idea is too full of potential . . .

Yep, thats enough to kill it right there.

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From: 6500hage@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (William F. Hagen)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: fuck
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:22:50 GMT


Is that punctuated correctly?
From: erno@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Erno Pena)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Coed Bathrooms on College Campuses...
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:57:29 GMT
Reply-To: erno@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Coed Bathrooms on College Campuses...

Is there anyone out here on the net that goes to a university or a college  
where coed bathroom facilities are officially (or also unofficially...) set  
up on campus? If so, could you please describe the facilities that are  
shared, the general guidelines and rules that the residents follow, and any  
problems that arise, or don't arise.

I asked this about a year ago. There where quite a few campuses out west that  
had coed bathrooms in university dorms. But on the average, these kinds of  
facilities were few and far between. 

There where quite a few responses to the original posting, and many good  
points and observations where made, such as:

- In general, only the sinks and toilet areas were shared. The shower areas
  weren't. The showers were not the gang shower type, but an individual stall
  with a door and curtain.

- There was a consensus by all residents to share the bathroom facilities.

- The residents had a more mature attitude in general about the situation and
  about each other. They acted more mature.

- The residents policed themselves whenever a problem came up, such as an
  immature resident hanging around the bathroom too long.

- There was no mention of major problems in the facility such as rape or
  sexual assault. Although the possibility for such a crime might be greater
  in a coed bathroom, no such problems arose.

- The residents felt it was more like home, living with your brothers and 
  sisters, seeing them in their morning conditions, seeing them as people and
  not "objects".

- In general, everyone followed the commonly accepted rules, and when 
  students were put into a situation that demanded more maturity, they acted 
  more mature and grew up a lot quicker.

I'm not expecting great changes in the conclusions reached, but I'd like to  
hear about any new dorms set up like this. It is a very interesting and  
appealing idea, and I wish there was a dorm like that here at UIUC.

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