HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mbaffoni@skat.usc.edu (Michael Baffoni)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: SupraFAX Modem Config for Supra BBS ???
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:59:22 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep30.173648.10314@unlv.edu> sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:

>I just called their BBS with my Supra V.32bis last night to order
>bug-fix ROMs...no problems connecting or with staying connected--and
>that's with 1.0D ROMs, no less!  The configuration was the same as the
>one I use with my BBS, except for turning on the speaker...remind me
>to send the modem settings.

	No kidding!  Really?  I had the _hardest_ time getting on there.  I 
have a Supra V.32bis with the 1.200C ROMs.  When I would call the SupraBBS,
it would connect at 12k (no LAPM!) and would give me the opening of the BBS -
"Enter your full name" or some such.  I would type a few letters, then it would
kick me off!  This happened about 10-12 times, and I thought hmm, maybe I'm not
typing fast enough.  So I put my responses in macros, and tried that.  It 
worked (sort of).  After I input my full name, it thought about it for about
3 minutes (I thought it had locked up), but then it resumed, and worked fine
the rest of the time.  I ordered my new ROMS (I haven't received them yet - I
ordered the J (not H) ROMs on Friday (I think the 2nd) - I hope that this 
was a problem with the BBS, and not with the modem!)

>  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
> / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!
>(IIe (  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis Apple II/IBM/Star Trek/Aerospace
> \_^_/  Ask me about SoftDAC--digital audio for your IIe/IIc! Apple II Forever!

-Mike



Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Re: USRobotics dual 14.4 upgradable to v.fast?
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:58:19 GMT

>>>If you can, take a look at USR's Courier or Sportster line.  Open one up.
>>                                             ^^^^^^^^^
>>>You'll see the daughterboard, and the connectors to the main board.  It's a
>>>simple swap.
>
>>I don't know how the Sportster is built, but *only* the USR Courier DS,
>>Courier v.32bis, and LAN Sharing modem will be upgradeable.
>
>This is true, but there is no _technical_ reason why a future V.Fast
>board would not work in a Sportster -- it's built the same way as the
>Couriers.
>
Hmmm...this is interesting.  Have you ever seen one of USR's Shared
Access Modems?

They look exactly like a Sportster, except they are black.

Anyways, I have seen both a Courier v.32bis and SAM from USR and the
little daughter card looked the same.

Maybe one will be able to just stick in the v.fast board in a Sportster
and have it work??

Oh well...still more than a year until we find out...


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: keating@rtsg.mot.com (Edward Keating)
Subject: Re: Hacking USR ROMS [4.2 - 4.1]
Keywords: Supervisors.ROM.Hacks
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:41:35 GMT

goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:

>>>   This is HIGHLY illegal!!!!  Why I think people who purchased a Sportster
>>
>>Why is this illegal?  If I were to buy some software, disassemble it, and 
>>
>>modifications illegal.  Has USR expressly forbidden modification of the ROMs?

>Yes.  USR stated in their press release that it is against the law to
>alter any USR ROM or even, I think, use any USR modem in a manner not
>intended.

Check out this week's new about Nintendo vs Atari. Atari reverse engineered
the Nintendo "hand shake" inside the cartridge, so Nintendo took them to court.
The lower court's decision was thrown out by the appellate court who have
basically said that reverse engineering roms is acceptable engineering practice.

It is highly unlikely that USR would go after individuals that modify their
modems. By purchasing the modem, the user was granted a license to use the
software contained in that modem. If he locates a set of 4.1 firmware roms,
he still has a license to use the software in the context of the use of the
modem. If the 4.1 firmware was an internal release only, then USR could
prosecute on theft of trade secret, but because it was offered for sale, it
wouldn't hold up.
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From: rdg@world.std.com (Richard D Goldstein)
Subject: Re: TwinCom 14.4K Fax/Modem
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:09:10 GMT

postale@cse.fau.edu (Elena Postal) writes:

>Does anyone have any opinions about the TwinCom 14.4K v.32bis FAX
>modem?

>At $259 for an external in the latest Computer Shopper, it seems
>like an attractive buy.

>In the ad, there's a blurb about either having a Rockwell chip set
>or being 100% compatible.


I have the internal version and it works quite well.  Solid connections with
all of the usual suspects and zmodem downloads of zip files at around
1680cps (plus or minus 100cps) with zmodem downloads of txt files at
over 2200cps.  The fax part also seems to work, but I am using the
Q-Link-II software and find that althought it works, the documentation
leave a bit to be desired (what fax/modem software/hardware documentation
dosen't?!!)

Seems like a nice design... no blue wires!  (and a good price)

Rich g.
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From: bjdunlop@shamash.cdc.com (Bruce Dunlop)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Whose modem is it safe/correct to buy?
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:39:23 GMT
Organization: Control Data, Arden Hills, MN

In article <16172@mindlink.bc.ca> Rick_McCormack@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick McCormack) writes:
>Wow@! with the down-load dumping on Hayes for this silly anti-TIES stuff in
>
>Any recommendations on a v32.bis external for switched use between a Mac and
>a PC? Any good ones with FAX send and receive facilities?
>--

I bought a Forval for $275, and it works great.  It doesn't have fax yet,
but it is upgradeable by making a phone call to the factory, as soon as
they finish the upgrade.  The fax upgrade is free, and is supposed to be
avail this year.

I bought the external, model SA14400.  It comes with Crosstalk software
for the PC, but I didn't even install it - it is a lousy test version.  It
should work fine with a Mac.  I use it with H/W flow control (CTS/RTS).  It
also supports XON/XOFF and CTS only if your machine doesn't support
CTS/RTS.

The modem is supposed to be upgradeable to V.FAST, when it is finished.
Contact Chris Von Motz, 408-294-0526 to order or get more info.

Jim Dahlberg
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: dgm@shell.portal.com (David G Metzger)
Subject: Re: +++ sequence problem with USR DS 16.8k
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/725-0561 (data)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:32:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.084001.1122@u.washington.edu> tbr@hardy.u.washington.edu (Todd Barnreiter) writes:
>dgm@shell.portal.com (David G Metzger) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct10.082236.8757@u.washington.edu> tbr@hardy.u.washington.edu (Todd Barnreiter) writes:
>>> issue the + + + escape sequence on my USR Dual Standard 16.8k
>>>I immediately get a NO CARRIER and the modem hangs up.  I want
>>>to enter into command mode, not hang up!  My old HST never
>>>had this problem.  I looked through all the settings and I
>>>can't find anything that makes a difference.  What's the
>>>deal here?
>>>
>>>-BarryB
>>>
>
>>   You have S14=001; set S14=000 as documented in the manual, on the 
>>quick reference card, and in the modem's on-line help screen.
>
>Ok, I checked and S14=001 was indeed true.  After changing it
>to S14=000, everything works normally.
   [ ... ]
>What are you talking about this being documented in the manual, reference
>card and modem's help screens?  This is not true!  Every single
>one of those sources says:
>                    S14    Resevered

    Hmm... you're right. S14 itself is not described in the DS manual, but 
the information you seek is in there.  Look under "escape sequence" in the
index.

   When I looked it up, the Sporster manual was the closest, so I grabbed it
first.  S14 is well documented in the Sportster manual/reference card/on-line 
help; that's the first time I've been aware of something in the Sportster 
docs whch was not in the DS docs -- though the converse is frequently true.

>No matter what I do, this register always defaults to a setting
>of 001 at power-up/reset.

   Set dipswitch 9 to "down".

 [ ... ]
>-BarryB
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: eng20204@nusunix1.nus.sg (LEE MUH HWA)
Subject: ZyXEL plus models
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:12:53 GMT

Does anyone have any idea whether the U1496E+ model is out yet? If not,
any idea when it will be?  Will there be also an S+ model as well?

Thanks.

Lee Muh Hwa
eng20204@nusunix1.nus.sg
From: wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Gateway Telepath Modem help please!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:37:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bw7BrA.A3F
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <Bw74Iu.M1u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mfv23060@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Maurice F. Vallejo) writes:
>(from a friends account)
>
>
>	Is there anything I can do to fix my Telepath modem???

Yep, send it back and buy a USRobotics or some other reliable brand.

In modems as well as anything, you get what you pay for.

Scott
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: SUPRA - new ROM version 1.2G? 1.2J?
Keywords: Barf
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:51:42 GMT

Is there a final concensus on what features the latest ROM version of
the Supra contains?  Does it now have the ability to process incoming
calls as fax/modem/voice?

Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Hacking USR ROMS [4.2 - 4.1]
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:00:38 GMT

panizo@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Maria Panizo) writes:
>I think you're incorrect.  It is illegal to "Listen to" the cellular calls,
>but it is not illegal to 
>a) modify the scanner    or
>b) have the modified scanner in your posession   
>any HAMs want to agree?

I'm not much of a HAM, but I'll agree... we went through this on
comp.dcom.telecom not long ago.
-- 
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From: PERRYKC@DUVM.BITNET (Keith Perry)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Hayes Modem Codes
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:50:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: WSMR-SIM.W8SDZ.12821702657.BABYL
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello there,

     I'm not on the list anymore some please mail your responses to me
directly... and now the big question-

DOES ANYONE HAVE A LIST A HAYES MODEM CODE AND THEIR DEFINITIONS
(eg. atdt, ats0=0 atz, etc...)

Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Thanx in advance.

Keith Perry-
Floor Supervisor/Consultant- perrykc@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
Acknowledge-To: <PERRYKC@DUVM>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: vic@cd.com (Vic Serbe)
Subject: Re: FAQ -- define v.32, v.42, etc. 
Organization: Central Data Corp., Champaign, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:56:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.170430.6528@telebit.com> bair@telebit.com (Scott Bair) writes:
>In article <717037184snx@n5ial.chi.il.us> jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham) writes:
>>In article <716444686snx@dcthree.alisa.com> denny@dcthree.alisa.com writes:
>>
>>> V.32 - Signalling scheme for 9600 baud over phone lines
>>> V.32bis - Signalling scheme for 14400 baud over phone lines
>>
>>first off, that should be 9600 bits/second and 14,400 bits/second,
>>and not baud....they're *NOT* the same.  V.32 is a modulation scheme
>>that operates at 9600 bits/second (fallback to 4800 bps), and *NOT*
>>9600 baud.  likewise, V.32bis is a modulation scheme that operates
>>at 14,400 bps (fallback to 12,000 bps, 9600 bps, 7200 bps, and 4800 bps).
>
>Please note that the above speeds use modulation techniques that are
>2400 BAUD.

Correct, but I'd like to add some information that may help some to
understand. V.32 defines a method of encoding 4 bits to every
tone, while V.32bis defines a method of encoding 6 bits to every tone.
It's still a 2400 BAUD connect. Baud describes the number of state
changes per second, but does not dictate the number of bits that can
be represented by each state.

In other words, for V.32bis, the phone line actually changes tones 2400
times per second (2400 baud), but each tone represents 6 bits, so that
means 2400x6=14400 bits per second connect rate. Then you add data
compression to that (4:1 max for 42bis) and you can transfer some
serious data.

Hope this helps.

>Scott Bair
>Systems Engineer
>Telebit Corporation
>bair@telebit.com

Hey, Scott.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 08:07:20 -0800
From: Zero_One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: V.25bis Modems
Comment-To: Steven_Frazier@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Zero_One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/701
X-FSC-EID: 10ca 2bd7a2a4
X-FSC-PID:  FM+ 2.1

 > I am looking for a MFG/model number for a V.25 bis Modem for use
 > on x.25.
 > Could someone email me a MFG and model number that runs v.25 bis?

Steve,

Look into ZyXEL.  We support v.25bis.  Call us at 1-800-255-4101 or
call our bbs at 714-693-0762.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Supra - STILL Problems
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:47:47 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden
OD-Comment-To: Internet_Gateway

> Has it ever occurred to anyone that the fact that USR uses a proprietary
> protocol (Double Standard), that it's not even *compatible* with v.32bis?

You mean Dual Standard. It, however, is not a protocol, it's a model model, 
one the Couirer family of modems from US Robotics.

The name of this model comes from the fact that it supports two different high 
speed protocols. It's "dual faced". The HST DS model supports the USR 
proprietary HST protocol. It also supports the V.32bis protocol (or V.32 for 
older models).

V.32bis can be disabled, however. If the other end answers with B1 set, it 
will not send the answer tones required for V.32(bis) connections. A Dual 
Standard must have B0 set when answering the phone to be able to answer both V.
32bis and HST calls. This detection is fully automatic, though.

                        _       .    __
    Roger Nordin     _ //      /!Net /est Bench
 2:203/602.0@fidonet \X/  Internet: Roger_Nordin@bad.se

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From: hudgens@SCRI.FSU.EDU (Jim Hudgens)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Telebit 1600 -> Supra Faxmodem 14.4 fails
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:52:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University


The other direction seems to work fine.  That is, the T1600 as 
the autoanswer modem connects and the supra shows 9600 baud
and MNP5.  

When the remote supra (faxmodem, 14.4) is set to autoanswer and 
a local T1600 dials in, the two modems connect, appear to go into
a relatively long negotiation, and then the supra end 
apparently drops the line (based on the sound of it over the
modem speaker).

The remote supra's initialized with:

	at&FE0V0&C1&D2&K3&R0&Q5&P S0=1

and connected to a Netblazer, if that matters.

This same setup works fine with a supra dialing in, and a supra
autoanswering (using it right now...though the supra reports
here 14.4k with LAPM/BLTZ).  Well, mostly fine.  I am getting more
garbage over the line than with my original setup of T1600->T1600.
Appears to be the result of dropped characters.  

Anyway, I've tried several settings on the local t1600, mostly dinking with
T1600 registers S190, S180, S181, and S94, and none seem to matter.

Any ideas?  The crux of the problem is that we want to replace 
all our dialin modems with Supra's, but not if our existing T1600's
become useless.

Thanks in advance.

JHH


--
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: slutz@cunix7.Prime.COM (Don Slutz)
Subject: Re: none
Reply-To: slutz@cunix7.Prime.COM (Don Slutz)
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:01:06 GMT

In article <5270@daily-planet.concordia.ca>, ctvien@cs.concordia.ca
(VIEN cam thanh) writes:
|> 
|> I have a question: If I connect with CIS using 7E1 setting, then
|> how is the 8 bit being transfered during a file upload/download?
|> 
|> 
|> Thks
|> 
|> 
|> Cam

The 8 bit is transfered by the protocall used during upload/download
(I.E. kermit, xmodem, etc.)
--
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slutz@s35.prime.com
These are only my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL too fast?
Keywords: ZyXEL sun sparc
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:32:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: msuinfo.1992Oct15.093217.2156
Organization: Michigan State University

claes@sparc2.ikb.uni-essen.de (Heinz-Josef Claes) writes:

>Is it possible, that the combination of Sparc and ZyXEL are too fast for
>PC or Amiga? The ZyXEL is connected with 38400 baud at the sparc.

I use a ZyXEL with my Amiga and a Sun4 daily at 38.4 link with no problems.
I stay connected for *long* periods of time and transfer with both zmodem
and dnet without problems.
-- 
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griffin@egr.msu.edu             casting doubt on all I have to say..."
From: luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR vs. ZOOM
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:52:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: ipgaix.1992Oct14.095222.153949
Organization: Universita' di Perugia

I am rigth now in the process of buying a v32bis modem. Among the 
modems found here in the Italian market, there are a couple of them
that I am considering:

USR Courier V.32 Bis, and
ZOOM VX V32 Bis

The USR costs almost tree times more than the ZOOM.

The question is:

Is such difference in cost justified by a proportional difference in quality?

Consider that I am looking for a quality modem.

Thank you

Luca Priorelli
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel)
Subject: Re: 40% Discount of ZyXELs
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:49:16 GMT

In article <yuan1.718655253@husc10> yuan1@husc10.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan) writes:
>hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (hasit mehta) writes:
>OK, this may be a silly question, but what's the easiest way to create
>ANSI screens on an IBM?  Is there a simple drawing program that does it?
>
>-nhy
>

There are several ANSI editors, most of which are shareware.  TheDraw is
the most popular; A3E (ASCII, ANSI, and Avatar Editor) is another.
TheDraw is on wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors/msdos/screen/tdraw451.zip.
I think A3E is there too.                        ^^^^^^ not sure about this!

Or you could always just use a regular text editor and type in the ANSI
codes by hand.  :-)


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From: gerrit@laosinh.stgt.sub.org (Gerrit Heitsch)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra modem power adaptor
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 19:28:44 MET
 <1992Sep29.000431.8413@nntp.hut.fi> <4316@seti.UUCP>
Distribution: world
Organization: Lao-Sinh project (private UUCP site)

In article <4316@seti.UUCP>, Julien Maisonneuve writes:

> Hey, I noticed that Supra power adapters output AC !!!
> Does it mean that there is a diode bridge inside the modem itself ?
Yes.

> My understanding is that there should be no problem with feeding the modem DC,
> what do you think ?
Feeding the modem with DC can cause problens in the generation
of the +-12 V. This is normally done by a simple voltage doubler
which needs AC as input.

Gerrit

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: west@ntmtv.UUCP (Andrew West)
Subject: Re: SUPRA - new ROM version 1.2G? 1.2J?
Originator: west@herald
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:01:44 GMT

From article <Bvwzv2.GAB@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman):
> radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel) writes:
> 
>>ROM version 1.2H is the free upgrade rom. It does not have Caller ID.
>>1.2J is the upgrade with Caller ID; it costs $20 plus shipping.  Both
>>ROMs are otherwise identical in bug fixes, etc.
> 
>>The ROM can be ordered from Supra's BBS.
> 
> Next question: are the current Supra modems now shipping with the 1.2J ROMs,
> or the 1.2H ROMs? Or is Supra doing an "unbundling" thing like they did with
> the FAX software - selling a stripped-down version, a version with the FAX
> software, and now a version with the Caller*ID ROM (plus assorted 
> combinations)?

I just got a SFM from MacWarehouse (ordered 10/8, arrived 10/9) and it
came with the 1.200-H ROMs and the latest STFax S/W (2.2.3).

Andrew West
Northern Telecom    UUCP: {ames, amdahl, hplabs}...!ntmtv!west
Mt View, CA   USA   Internet: ntmtv!west@ames.arc.nasa.gov  or
			      ntmtv!west@ames.arpa

Mann - "So you don't know everything?"
Eve  - "It would be impractical to know everything.  Access time would
	be enormous..."

-Mann & Machine
From: bkwg0457@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Whitlock)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 14.4K SPRTSTER & 9600FAX 4 SALE
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:13:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw7zMs.JvH
Reply-To: bwhitlock@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

SALIM <U26043@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>The following items are for sale:

>Sportster(U.S. Robotics) 14.4k internal modem w/fax send/receive
> 9600 fax group III systems compatible.  14.4k modem v.32bis,
>mnp5, v.42 & v.42bis error correction. (throughput of upto 57,600bps)
>Software included. (group broadcast, background operation, delayed sending
>and attribute retention).
>            Price .................  $300.

I ordered my 14.4k Sportster Faxmodem (external) from Microcomputer
Concepts in California for $299 new. I think their internal was the same
price.


>Please note:  Both these modems are brand new with 5 year warranty. Price
>              does not include s/h. In illinois add 7.75% tax.

Add tax?  This sounds like a commercial sale, and not a private classified ad.

>If interested, please email.(or call)
>                                            SALIM LAKHA
>                                          U26043@UICVM.UIC.EDU
>                                          (708)673-0915

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Brent Whitlock		Beckman Institute for Advanced Science & Technology
bwhitlock@uiuc.edu	Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
			University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign