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From: cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka)
Subject: Re: Case of the Flipped-Out Floppy !
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:14:42 GMT

 mcp@netcom.com (Craig Presnell) writes:
>insert a diskette and get a directory, let's say 5 files totaling
>400k , then insert another, different diskette, and get a 
>directory, DOS will display the original 5 files with 400k!

There is a signal called DSKCHG which most drives generate to tell the
controller that the drive has been changed.  Some drives _don't_
implement this signal.  Some drives have a jumper to disable it (or
use it for something else, I think...)

Anyway, the problem is that DOS has buffered your directory info and
to save time just pulls it out of the buffer instead of firing up the
disk drive again -- this saves the 2 seconds or so it takes the floppy
to spin up.  If DOS doesn't have the directory info, it will spin up
the disk and fetch it.

Usually you can call up a directory of your C drive, and then DOS will
have to reread the floppy dir and so will get it right.  Also, when
you press CTRL/C at a DOS prompt this is supposed to force DOS to
flush the buffers, so _that_ should do it.  And there's a switch
you can use with DRIVER.SYS to force a read of the disk on every
access.  ('/C' I think?)

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From: luyten@fwi.uva.nl (Hans Luyten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: CYRIX 486DLC
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:10:01 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

HELP,..

some vendors overhere offer PCs with an CYRIX 486DLC (33Mhz)
processor instead of an intel 486DX,...
Can anybody tel me what I should think of this processor
with (as they say, MATHSUPPORT) ?? Is it faster ? cheaper ?
100% compatible ? Missin' things ? What the performance and
compatibility ???

HELP,..


				Hans

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From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel's "Overdrive" chip
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:49:51 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Sep30.181006.15004@unixg.ubc.ca>, twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
|> In article <rg9538.717736709@ehsn5.cen.uiuc.edu> rg9538@ehsn5.cen.uiuc.edu (Ronald E Garnett) writes:
|> >
|> >It doubles the speed of the clock internal to the chip, but maintains
|> >the same speed external to the chip.  This results in a overall speed
|> 
|> I thought this description sounds more like the DX2 chips than the
|> Overdrive chips.
|> 
|> >improvement without having to get a brand new motherboard.  It costs
|> >a bundle, though.  I read it to be in ther $700-900 range, but I'm not
|> >positive!  It just plugs into the same slot as your 486DX-25 or 486DX-33,
|> >(different models).  Alternatively, there is a model for the 486SX series.
|> >
|> Plugs into the same socket as the CPU? You are talking about the DX2
|> right? I thought the Overdrive chips plugs into the Weitek socket?!? So
|> that you have 2 processor working to double the speed. Not replace the
|> current cpu. Any confirmations? Thanks.

Intel is making two type od 486/33 replacments one plugs into the 486/33
socket (168 pins) the other into a replacement socket (169 pins).

Gateway 2000 offered me a Overdrive replacement for $650 plus shipping
and if I wanted for $150 they will do the install with new bios at my
location not theirs.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: drews@bcarh120.bnr.ca (Drew Stevens)
Subject: Re: Repairing broken Thrustmaster joystick
Organization: S.I.R. Tools - BNR Ltd.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 16:50:44 GMT

In article <1a0l5jINNsn0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil) writes:
>
>I have a Thrustmaster joystick, which I was quite happy with until the pots
>on it went south. I have read several letter to magazines detailing how
>people have repaired their Thrustmasters by one of two ways: either
>replacing the pots, or merging the Thrustmaster stick with the base of a CH
>Flightstick. Could anyone who has done either of these things offer any
>advice in what to do to fix my stick?
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>-- 
>+-------------+------------------+---------------------------------+
>| Damien Neil | dpn2@po.cwru.edu | Case Western Reserve University |
>+-------------+------------------+---------------------------------+

I called Thrustmaster - they offered to repair it or send me the pots (FOC).



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From: chans@cs.curtin.edu.au (Sean Chan)
Subject: ISA, EISA, MCA, Local bus???!!!???
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:42:12 GMT

Ok, I'm really confused now. I have a rough idea about ISA, EISA, and
MCA...what's Local bus??? Correct me if I'm wrong :-

ISA - 16 bit
MCA - IBM's response to ISA
EISA - 32 bit 

Any help will be greatly appreciated...

Sean
From: dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (David T. Dudek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Dead/dying Seagate drive-help!
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:48:36 GMT
Organization: UB

markt@rocky.gte.com (Mark Tsombakos) writes:

>In case anyone is interested, Seagate says it will repair the drive...

>	$160 PREPAID!
>	30 day turnaround

It's $180 plus your local sales tax.  I just called them.

>Their idea of repair is, of course, replace.



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From: gsgathin@sacam (golando s gathings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: *** please tell what these simms are
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:22:51 GMT



	I have some simms, but I dont know whether they are 
1Mx9 .. etc .  They are the nine chips to a simm, each chip numbered
as follows:  

	TI
	TMS4C1024DJ

Any help would be welcome..

Golando  


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From: lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Advice needed on Tri-Star 486 DX 50 hz.
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:25:19 GMT

I notice in a recent PC mag that one of the best deals on 486/50 is
the Tri-Star system(s).  I have not seen them mentioned in this group
(mostly Gateway and Zeos hog the spotlight).  Has anyone had any
experience they can relate?

thanks

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From: jtk@netcom.com (Jane Valencia)
Subject: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 SCSI port?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:50:34 GMT

baker@westsd.dco.dec.com (Art Baker) writes:

> A recent call to Media Vision revealed that they have no plans to
>support the PAS-16 under Windows NT.  They seemed to feel that the
>SoundBlaster compatibility provided by NT would be enough.

A Very Important Person within MV is currently working on drivers for NT.
In fact, I received E-mail from the guy while he was sitting in a chair
at the NT porting center.  I don't know WHEN they plan to release
this work, but they're certainly giving NT attention!

					Just my rumors...
					Andy Valencia
					jtk@netcom.com
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From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Re: 66MHZ 486DX2 SYTEMS GATEWAY VS. ZEOS
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 13:48:53 GMT

In article <24SEP199209204559@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>In article <1992Sep22.180711.4427@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, 
>laytonj@rayleigh.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey Layton) writes...
>
>>Well, I'm not a zeos guy, but I have been searching for a GOOD system
>>for about 6 months (whatever good means). One of my primary needs was
>>the ability to upgrade to the P5 whenever it comes out. Zeos offers
>>a socket that can take the P24T chip which is a P5 chip. This is the
>>ONLY manufacturer that offers this. If you ask most companies about
>>upgrading to the P5 they usually want to sell you a machine with
>>an overdrive socket which won't get P5 upgradability.
>
>Which leads to the question: Does Zeos assure that the P5 chip will be 
>compatible with the motherboard (or vice-versa)?  Maybe its just my cynical 
>attitude, but I kind of doubt that you will be able to just pop a P5 into 
>this system without seriously crippling the capability of the P5.
>
>JD

ZEOS will assure you that the New Local BUS motherboard will support a
P24T (a 586 CORE Overdrive processor). The P24T is a member of the P5 
family of processors.
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From: jdp@polstra.UUCP (John Polstra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: A REAL 24 bit graphic card available?
Summary: Number Nine "#9GXi TC Level 29"
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:13:33 GMT
Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA

In article <jim.717492697@ferkel> jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
> What I mean by real:
> 
> 8-bit DAC for each of the RGB colors
> Able to do high res (1024x768 or 1280x1024) in 24-bit
> (Most 24-bit boards I've seen only do it in 640x480 mode, blech.)
> Graphics Accelerated
> Real bus: EISA or VESA Local Bus
> Flat memory map, No BS (Bank Switching)
> 32-bit memory addressing and ability to put it far away from system memory
> Developer friendly company so I can write Unix/X support for it if I want

I checked into this a couple of months ago.  The only card I found that
comes close to meeting the criteria above was the "#9GXi TC Level 29"
card from:

    Number Nine Computer Corp.
    18 Hartwell Avenue
    Lexington, MA 02173
    Phone: (617) 674-0009
    FAX:   (617) 674-2919

According to their literature, it has 4MB of video RAM driven by a
TI 34020 graphics processor, and can display true 24-bit color at a
resolution of 1024x768 with a vertical refresh rate of 70 Hz,
non-interlaced.  I don't know anything about the bus interface of the
card.

When I checked, the list price was $2295, and the mail order price was
probably around $1820.

> I figure that this could be done for under $600.

[ Editorial comment:  Before we get going on an endless thread about
what a ripoff the actual prices are, I'll just point out that these are
low-volume niche products and their price has very little to do with
the cost of the components. ]

One mail order company that seems to specialize in these sorts of things
is:

    Laser Press & Graphics
    4888 Stamp Road
    Marlow Heights, MD 20748
    Phone: (301) 899-1118 or (800) 628-4517
    FAX:   (301) 899-1888

I got a good impression of the company when I called them.  The guy with
whom I spoke was knowledgeable about high-end graphics cards and was
quite willing to discuss them with me.  He sent me a catalog and some
literature that arrived promptly.

I decided to wait until there are some better products available before
I buy.  (I have been spoiled by years of working on real workstations,
and as far as I'm concerned, 768 lines is just not enough.  I'll talk to
them when they can offer me 1152x900, or better yet 1280x1024.)

When I do buy, I'll most likely go with Laser Press & Graphics.
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From: brownbb@gems.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Comparision between the Taga 64 and the Video Logic DVA-4000.
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:01:38 -0400
Organization: Medical College of Virginia

Am interestyed in a comparison between the Targa 64 and video logic dva-4000
video boards.  Specifically, the still frame capture capabilities and real time
video capture.
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From: medin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com (Dave Medin)
Subject: Re: Keyboard
Reply-To: medin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:09:48 GMT

In article <1a312bINN20f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil) writes:
|> 
|> I have been thinking about buying a new keyboard, since my current one is
|> starting to fall apart. My roommate just got a Gateway 2000 machine, with a
|> Gateway AnyKey keyboard. This is a beautiful thing with function keys
|> across the top and side, eight direction keys instead of four (and a
|> 'empty' key in the middle) and four keys that are used to program the other
|> keys.
|> 
|> I would like to boy something like this. I have heard that the Northgate
|> Omnikey keyboard is very good. Is is as good as the Gateway ones? Can
|> anyone offer me advice on a good keyboard to buy?

As a Northgate Omni-Key 102 owner, I can say I liked the durability
and touch of the much cheaper Fujitsu 4700 I had on another, earlier
machine. I don't like the touch on the 102 as well--especially the
space bar and return key.

Both the 102 and 4700 have only 12 function keys (the Fujitsu across
the top and the 102 on the side) and the cursor keys between the
keypads.

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From: 93gke@williams.edu (Greg Ennis)
Subject: Western Digital Controller
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:06:27 GMT

Can someone PLEASE PLEASE tell me how to configure the Western Digital
WD1002-WX1 controller card as the SECONDARY card?

Thanks- Greg
93gke@williams.edu
From: mats.astrom@neurofys.uu.se (Mats Astrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: DMA : number of transfers
Date: 1 Oct 1992 07:48:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Clinical Neurophysiology, University of Uppsala
NNTP-Posting-Host: mats.neurofys.uu.se

While doing DMA-transfer it's possible to read the number of transfers done
by reading a specific register of the DMA-circuit. I've manage to do so but
the result seem to be somewhat instable ! The instability is due to reads of
the register in the middle of a transfer, isn't it ????
Assuming I'm setting up everthing correctly, how do I read the number of
transferred bytes to get the correct value every time ?????

I program in TP 6.0, with the following declarations the code is:

BTW, I'm doing integer ( 2 bytes ) transfers, see odd(lobyte1) below !

   lobyte1,
   lobyte2,
   hibyte1,
   hibyte2  : byte;

   DMACountReg = $03; { byte Count, ch1 }

    version 1:
                      {--- check how far DMA has gone ---}
                      repeat
                         lobyte1 := port[DMACountReg];
                         hibyte1 := port[DMACountReg];
                         lobyte2 := port[DMACountReg];
                         hibyte2 := port[DMACountReg];
                      until odd(lobyte1) and
                            (hibyte2=hibyte1) and
                            (lobyte2=lobyte1);
    version 2:
                      {--- check how far DMA has gone ---}
                      repeat
                         lobyte1 := port[DMACountReg];
                         hibyte1 := port[DMACountReg];
                         lobyte2 := port[DMACountReg];
                         hibyte2 := port[DMACountReg];
                      until odd(lobyte1) and ( ( (hibyte2=hibyte1) and
                                                 (lobyte2<=lobyte1) ) or
                                              ( (hibyte2<hibyte1) and
                                                (lobyte2>lobyte1) ) );

The calculation of how many transfers done in both versions is:

                     nr_of_transfers := ( hibyte2 shl 8 + lobyte2 ) shr 1;

None of the above versions seem to give a stable result of the amount of
transfers done !!!
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From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Re: 66MHZ 486DX2 SYTEMS GATEWAY VS. ZEOS
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 16:08:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.180711.4427@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> laytonj@rayleigh.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey Layton) writes:
>a socket that can take the P24T chip which is a P5 chip. This is the
>ONLY manufacturer that offers this. 

This is OK to say as long as you realize that the P24T is a P5
with 32-bit external bus rather than the full-blown 64-bit.
Also know that the write-back cache in the P24T will most
likely have to be configured for write-through because there
aren't chipsets out which are compatible and the economy would
prevent a custom design.

>If you ask most companies about
>upgrading to the P5 they usually want to sell you a machine with
>an overdrive socket which won't get P5 upgradability.

Someone correct me... the orginal 487 upgrade socket (169-pins)
is NOT the overdrive (tm) socket.  If a dealer is selling the
487 "vacancy" socket as an overdrive (tm) socket, then I'm
sure Intel would like to speak with them.

>I think 2 fans >is a good idea
, especially if ou have more than the usual set

Always a good idea... unfortunately, it is a fine line we walk
before the customer complains about the hoover she/he just
bought! :)

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From: fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques Fontenot)
Subject: Re: QUERY:is local bus/vesa killing EISA?
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:57:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.114126.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov> schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
>
>  Is Eisa dying? With many manufatures producing pseudo-eisa boards, eisa
>boards using the eisa bus in isa mode by design, and the apparent scamble
>of manufactures to produce local bus/vesa. Is this going to kill the advantages
>of using a eisa machine?
>                                 Kris

I for one, would like to hear more about this. For example, I have heard that
VLB does not have bus arbitration -- and that this is bad for multitasking OS
use (like unix). Since I want a machine specifically to run unix and
X-windows, I am thinking EISA is the way to go.

Dwayne Fontenot

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From: fsaleem@admiral.uucp (Farzan Saleem)
Subject: Re: Keep computer on all time or turn off once everyday ?
Reply-To: fsaleem@admiral.uucp (Farzan Saleem)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:08:49 GMT

cl45@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Ching-Tse Liu) writes:

> Hi,
>         I need your opinion on which way would prolong the life
> of a computer and/or a hard drive -- keep it on all the time, or
> turn it off when not in use.
> 
 
This is a debate that has been going on for a long time. I think
that it is best to turn your computer off, because even if there IS
a slight possibility that it might prolong your computer's life 
(the argument being that turning it off or on causes a light power
spike internally) it would be ofset by the energy you save.
 
In this "green age", I think that it is a shameless waste of resources
if you just leave your computer on if you are not utilizing it. Now
I don't mean 15 or 20 minutes, but anything over a hour or so ----
turn it off and save. The money you save might just help ofset 
the costs of upgrading in the future! ;)
 
FS!
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From: chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: ADVICE ON MODEMS AND SOUND CARDS
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 02:45:14 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Hi!

I need some help on getting a modem.  I would like to have 
the capability of hooking up to my UNIX account here at school
and be able to use my pc as a terminal.  How can I do that other
than getting a ethernet card.  I am looking at a 14,440bps   
modem, is that too much.  Also how can I ftp or down load 
files from my account.  Is there a software that does that.

Also, what is a good entry-level sound card that would do interesting
sound effect, but also has the ability to do some DSP type manipulation?

Thanks for any comment!

Chung Yang 

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From: ciembron@spot.Colorado.EDU (Shawn Oster)
Subject: Modems(14.4) Supra vs. Boca vs. Zoom vs. Cardinal. Which one?
Summary: Wondering which brand to buy of modem.
Keywords: Boca, Modems, Cardinal, Zoom, Supra
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 06:48:56 GMT

	I've decided to hurdle from 1200 to 14.4 and in my wanderings for a new
modem was wondering what people had heard about the Supra, Zoom, Boca, and
Cardinal. Especially the Boca line of 14.4 modems I don't want to pay more than
300 and found a Boca for about 208 and that looked like a snazy deal. Any feed
back will be appricated. Thanks in advance.
From: lafourc@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Chris LaFournaise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 'alt' intermittant
Summary: Doesn't work
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:30:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Oct03.223028.10794
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Oregon State University
Originator: lafourc@storm.CS.ORST.EDU

Now, here's an interesting problem.  Today I sat down and cleaned my
keyboard, like I have on many others many times before, but now that
it's put back together, the ALT key misbehaves.  It works with MOST
keys, except the z-n keys.  If I hit z,x,c,v,b,n by itself, it works
fine, as evidenced by their appearance here (;).  However, if I try
to hit ALT-X, it does nothing.  If I keep trying, like, dozens of
times, it will eventually get an alt-x.

I have a Northgate Omni-102.  Any ideas for a fix?

-Chris
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