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From: sharaeec@w215zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Aditya Sharma)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Nuclear Death
Date: 8 Jan 1993 12:01:46 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
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In article <1993Jan7.213029.29518@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong) writes:

>Hey, does anyone know about a band called Nuclear Death?  They are a
>grindcore band with a female singer.  Where are they from and how do I
>get a hold of their LP?

...I'm not going to serve myself up for flaming here, but I have a
NUCLEAR DEATH record called "Carrion For Worm" on tape and I'm pretty
sure there wasn't a female vocalist on this rather morbid work...

...are we talking about the same band?...


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From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: Napalm Death
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: alt.thrash
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:01:09 GMT

In article <106640@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.110051.12377@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>>In article <106433@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>>>I took a look on line up in SCUM which is 1986-1987 and then compared
>>>it with current line up.Holy shit! There is no common member at all.
[...]
>>>So how can new members use the name NAPALM DEATH and use this logo. I fucking
>>>don't get it!
>>>
>>Shane (bassist), the now longest surviving member (he joined just after "Scum"
>>I believe) has said that Napalm Death is not a bunch of members, it's a
>>concept. And I agree, it's still kind of the same band even though no-one's
>>left from the beginning...
>
>The use everything they didn't start with:logo,the same name etc.
>But music is different.It's not NAPALM DEATH anymore.SCUM and UTOPIA 
>are 2 entire differences and surely they are 2 different bands with different
>members, different music, but just with the same name.
>
It *is* Napalm Death. Much more than on "Harmony Corruption" at least.
Do you expect a band to sound like on "Scum" throughout their whole
existance? :-)
Well, maybe not so much to argue about here, just a simple "We don't agree"
case.

>I wonder if now Napalm Death plays anything off SCUM live.
>
I saw them in May last year and I'm almost sure that they played at one
song from "Scum". But it was a really short set, they probably play more
songs from it normally.
I've heard that a while after they'd made "Harmony Corruption", and had started
to feel more and more dissatisfied with that album, they played almost only
old 20-second songs...

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From: S.E.Rigden@newcastle.ac.uk (SER)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Napalm Death
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:03:01 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU


[ ... loads of ND discussion deleted ... ]

>The use everything they didn't start with:logo,the same name etc.
>But music is different.It's not NAPALM DEATH anymore.SCUM and UTOPIA
>are 2 entire differences and surely they are 2 different bands with different
>members, different music, but just with the same name.

>I wonder if now Napalm Death plays anything off SCUM live.

>--Leonid

 The most recent live footage of seen of Napalm Death is on the Harmony
Corruption tour. I can't remember the exact set list but it included the tracks
"Scum" and "Instinct of Survival", and possibly more off the first album ...
oh yes, "Siege of Power" as well. There was also a lot of stuff off "FETO".
 So no one can accuse them of forgetting their roots !!

- SER
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Want Info about GORGUTS (sp?)
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:20:55 GMT

Everyone I know who likes Cannibal Corpse also likes Gorguts.  However,
I would bet that not everybody who likes Gorguts likes Cannibal.  I 
doubt you're alone in your own brutal little world, but people who like
one and not the other are rare.

                                                        ->Later.....Spice
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath)
Subject: Re: Relativity
Organization: No organization. No life. Just emacs.
Distribution: alt.thrash
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:02:52 GMT

In article <106110@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:


   Relativity label phone # is needed, thanks.

   --Leonid

Relativity, 187-07 henderson avenue, hollis, NY 11423
phone 718 217 3600 fax 718 464 9510

Relativity, 20525 manhattan place, torrance, CA 90501
phone 310 212 0801 fax 310 782 9429

new york is the general office.  the guys in california deal with metal for
the most part.  if its cheaper to call NY, call there and ask whatever you
have to, and 70% chance they'll have you call CA.  otherwise just call CA.

for anyone interested, Metal Blade moved..
2345 erringer rd suite 108
simi valley, ca 93065
805 522 9111
fax: 805 522 9380

if you ever need major or minor US label addresses, drop a line, i have a 
decent up-to-date list

-jon
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From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Sodom
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:56:35 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Sodom "Tapping the Vein".
Very funny.Half of the songs are death metal with LOW vox.Another half
is power-speed-thrash metal with high mid 80s vocals. Songs with
low vox don't have high vox at all.And tunes with high vox don't have low
vox at all. Overall.All songs are very fast.There are almost no slow moments.
So whoever likes fast speed/death metal, I'd suggest to get it!


--Leonid
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong)
Subject: Nuclear Death
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:30:29 GMT

Hey, does anyone know about a band called Nuclear Death?  They are a
grindcore band with a female singer.  Where are they from and how do I
get a hold of their LP?

Thanks,

Ted     wc8376@writer.yorku.ca
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Napalm Death
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:32:37 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Napalm Death
Summary: 
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Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
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In article <1993Jan9.110051.12377@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>In article <106433@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>>I took a look on line up in SCUM which is 1986-1987 and then compared
>>it with current line up.Holy shit! There is no common member at all.
>>On SCUM there were Lee-vox, Jim-bass,Bill-guitar,Mick-drums.
>>All members were gone except Mick.He was still on HARMONY CORRUPTION.
>>But after this CD he was gone as well.
>>
>I think Mick Harris was still in the band when they made the
>"Mass Appeal Madness" EP, but then he left...
>
>>So how can new members use the name NAPALM DEATH and use this logo. I fucking
>>don't get it!
>>
>Shane (bassist), the now longest surviving member (he joined just after "Scum"
>I believe) has said that Napalm Death is not a bunch of members, it's a
>concept. And I agree, it's still kind of the same band even though no-one's
>left from the beginning...

The use everything they didn't start with:logo,the same name etc.
But music is different.It's not NAPALM DEATH anymore.SCUM and UTOPIA 
are 2 entire differences and surely they are 2 different bands with different
members, different music, but just with the same name.

I wonder if now Napalm Death plays anything off SCUM live.

--Leonid
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: Napalm Death
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: alt.thrash
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 11:00:51 GMT

In article <106433@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>I took a look on line up in SCUM which is 1986-1987 and then compared
>it with current line up.Holy shit! There is no common member at all.
>On SCUM there were Lee-vox, Jim-bass,Bill-guitar,Mick-drums.
>All members were gone except Mick.He was still on HARMONY CORRUPTION.
>But after this CD he was gone as well.
>
I think Mick Harris was still in the band when they made the
"Mass Appeal Madness" EP, but then he left...

>So how can new members use the name NAPALM DEATH and use this logo. I fucking
>don't get it!
>
Shane (bassist), the now longest surviving member (he joined just after "Scum"
I believe) has said that Napalm Death is not a bunch of members, it's a
concept. And I agree, it's still kind of the same band even though no-one's
left from the beginning...

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Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Bucko Gizm)
Subject: Re: glen benton's penis:  responsible for JFK assassination?
Organization: Dead Animal Pickup
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:05:09 PST

> Most of the bands I consider 'ahead' because of their goofiness/morbidness/
> soulfulness would probably be Entombed, Dismember, Tiamat, Therion, Asphyx, 
> and Desultory on the Swedish front..bands like Deicide, Morbid Angel, 
> Bolt Thrower, etc on the American front.  Its just some bands have a certain
> step ahead..its the same from classical to jazz to rap to opera though, a 
> certain performer will just have that extra hook to their work...

	I'd add to that Atheist, Dark Throne, Cathedral...a few others.  Bolt
Thrower are Amerikan?  And is Morbid Angel coming out with a new one, anyone? 
I've heard good things about desultory...

> Anti-premarital sex prostitutes..
> 
> -j
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> Jon Konrath, emacs protege | jkonrath@indiana.edu

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From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Pantera UK tour dates
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:09:39 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

>Does anyone know the Pantera tour dates?
Erm, they're in Dublin on the 18th, and I think they're in London
just b4 that. Couldn't be sure exactly.

SMNsio
From: omer@surf.phys.tue.nl (Agnostic Omer)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Pantera UK tour dates
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:41:00 GMT

se2da@dmu.ac.uk (Dave Anderson) writes:

>Does anyone know the Pantera tour dates?

	Check out page 121 or 117 of MTV Text

	Omer

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Subject: When's the new Sepultura coming out?
From: C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 10:18:49 CST
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS
NNTP-Posting-Host: umslvma.umsl.edu

Isn't the new Sepulturadue out about now?  Anyone have any info?
 
Since I'm already posting a message - I've got Harmony Corruption by Napalm
Death.  Gets better everytime I listen too it and I've listened too it a lot.
What would be another good ND disc to pick up?
 
Thanx - Tom Schaefer  C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: sorita@fhl.fujitsu.co.jp (Megumi Sorita)
Newsgroups: alt.skate
Subject: Witt comes to Olympic Games Again
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:31:03 GMT
Distribution: alt.skate, rec.skate
Organization: Fujitsu Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


I'm sorry I post my writing to a dead newsgroup, but 
I can't write to rec.skate.

Witt is going to be appear on the Next Olympic Games.
Do you think Midori Ito will be there too?

sorita@fhl.fujitsu.co.jp
From: byersla@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: Test: Do Not Read!!!
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:01:20 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

 This is a test!!!!!!

Newsgroups: alt.pulp
From: foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com (AJ Foxx)
Subject: Re: modern equivalent of the pulps
Reply-To: foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: "n.  A group united by a common interest or goal"
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:06:51 GMT

loren@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller) writes:
|> what do you all think is the modern equivalent of the pulp action adventure 
|> magazines? is it superhero comics? roleplaying games? certainly not neo-pulp 
|> magazines like weird tales and pulphouse, since they're all concerned about 
|> literary quality and other peripheral issues. imho, rpgs probably hit the 
|> closest to home, though generic fantasy quest novels may actually seem 
|> closer.

IMO, comic books are today's equivalent.  Certain titles and companies 
certainly aren't too concerned with those peripheral issues (i.e. quality).
There's large busty woman comics, beat 'em up comics, marvel-at-the-future
comics, etc.  Comics concentrate on the character and his environment and
the author is a little more secondary (and can be replaced).  This is
similar to a number of pulp house heroes.  You get dubious quality at times
but there exists that continuity (we hope) of character.

Comics, unfortunately, are becoming more (read that as toooooo!) expensive
and money-grubbing and are losing people like me who read for the story
without a lot of thought of collecting value.  So unless something cheapens
I wouldn't be surprised for pulp to find a new niche in media, maybe back to
just written text to cut publishing costs.


I don't think role-playing games are the spot for since the player
himself is the hero.  I think something inherent in pulp is the 
expectation of heroic and unexpected solutions.  As a player in an RPG
that is not always there.  The dastardly situations, yes, the brilliant
solutions, not always.  I also point to the fact of various books of
various quality (comic books too) derived from RPGs.  They sell well, and
IMO it's people often wanting to see and marvel at the heroes rather than
try and play them.
  --AJ
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From: mayers@landshark.syr.EDU (Michael  Ayers)
Subject: Re: modern equivalent of the pulps
In-reply-to: ez000472@hamlet.ucdavis.edu's message of 4 Jan 93 23:41:56 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:08:06 EST

ez000472@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (Aron Silverstone) writes:

>Then there are also the tv series spin off books, notably the Star Trek
>and ST:TNG books with probably a new ST:DSN series of books starting
>soon.

	Frankly, I think that the shows themselves are our modern, high-tech,
 low thought pulp.  The books are just for taking extra money from those who
 can't get enough of this travesty of scriptwriting in an hour long weekly
 dose (plus reruns).  While the show may not be within the bounds of many
 people's concept of 'pulp', for mine (pulp: a reasonable appearance of
 mental activity without the actual thought) it fits quite nicely.
	Or maybe I'm just all caught up in the 'high-tech' propoganda . . .


--

             Mike                       mayers@mailbox.syr.edu

    C: Unintelligible code means job security.
From: brian@zooid.guild.org (Brian Misiaszek)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: Re: modern equivalent of the pulps
Date:  5 Jan 93 03:05:55 GMT

From: loren@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller)
>what do you all think is the modern equivalent of the pulp action adventure 
>magazines? is it superhero comics? roleplaying games? certainly not neo-pulp 
>magazines like weird tales and pulphouse, since they're all concerned about 
>literary quality and other peripheral issues. imho, rpgs probably hit the 
>closest to home, though generic fantasy quest novels may actually seem 
>closer.
 
  I'd say that the hack fantasy works that TSR and other game company's
publish would count as "pulp fantasy" for a number of reasons.  Fiction
written for the lowest common denominator, packed with hoary cliches, stilted
dialogue and lurid covers that promise more than they deliver.  There is also
the same kind of innocence (these modern works are mostly aimed at
non-discriminating adolescents) in terms of adult sexuality et al. that
pervaded most of the pulps (including the "spicy" ones).  Finally, this stuff
is reeled out at an inhuman pace by authors more interested in making a buck
than in delivering a work of literature.

  I don't think that RPG's  (even though there does exist "pulp" rpg's like
Justice Inc, Daredevil's, Gurps:Cliffhangers and Torg:The Nile Empire) quite
count quite fit the literary model other than in the frantic action or pace.
There's more of an analogy with movie serials and radio shows--improvised
drama with the GM acting more as a director in setting up situations and
characters in conflict, then letting the players run wild.

  Curiously enough, some game companies have published books that are quite
faithful to the spirit of the original hero pulp material; I'm reminded of
Larry DiTillio's "Agent 13" books, and Torg's short story collection, "Tales
of the Nile Empire" (or some such).

::Brian::
From: loren@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: modern equivalent of the pulps
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:15:10 GMT
Organization: Wharton Marketing

what do you all think is the modern equivalent of the pulp action adventure 
magazines? is it superhero comics? roleplaying games? certainly not neo-pulp 
magazines like weird tales and pulphouse, since they're all concerned about 
literary quality and other peripheral issues. imho, rpgs probably hit the 
closest to home, though generic fantasy quest novels may actually seem 
closer.

Whatcha think?

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Time am I, wreaker of the world's destruction, matured, grimly
resolved here to swallow up the worlds.             -- Krishna
From: ez000472@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (Aron Silverstone)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: Re: modern equivalent of the pulps
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:41:56 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

loren@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller) writes:
: what do you all think is the modern equivalent of the pulp action adventure 
: magazines? is it superhero comics? roleplaying games? certainly not neo-pulp 
: magazines like weird tales and pulphouse, since they're all concerned about 
: literary quality and other peripheral issues. imho, rpgs probably hit the 
: closest to home, though generic fantasy quest novels may actually seem 
: closer.
:
It seems to me that the pulp tradition is alive and well in the
traditional format.  There is the large number of "Men's Adventure"
pulps, e.g. The Destroyer, Mac Bolan, etc., many of which
are fun reads but have little if any literary value.  Then
there are also the tv series spin off books, notably the Star Trek
and ST:TNG books with probably a new ST:DSN series of books starting
soon.

Aron Silverstone
From: loren@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: Re: modern equivalent of the pulps
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:51:58 GMT
Organization: Wharton Marketing

If pulp is still alive and well in the men's adventure series, the comics, 
teevee, and generic fantasy quest trilogies, then where is the traditional 
function of the old time pulps in attracting and training new writers so 
they learn to tell a story? That seems to have been lost when new writers 
start with a novel, instead of starting with short stories and writing them 
for years until they hone their craft (just a little).

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resolved here to swallow up the worlds.             -- Krishna
From: morgan@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.cosuard
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:31 EST
Subject: Help! Unable to open file.
Nf-ID: #N:peg:557400003:000:808
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!morgan    Jan 12 10:31:00 1993


I am unable to open a file in cardfile in Windows 3.1
with NDW.When I select the file I get a dialog box
which says that the selected file is not in the 
correct fomat to use with cardfile and tells me that
I should select a file with the .crd extension.
I then opened a C drive window and checked the file
it does have the .crd extension.If I try to view the 
file from the C drive window it says "unable to view 
file error found in file header." Help!


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From: morgan@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.cosuard
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:05 EST
Subject: help unabletoopenfile
Nf-ID: #N:peg:557400001:000:840
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!morgan    Jan 11 17:05:00 1993


When I try to open cardfile in window 3.1 with NDW I am getting
a dialog box which says that the selected file is not in the
correct format to use with cardfile and to select a file with
the .crd extension.However if I select file open it shows
me that the file I am trying to open has .crd extension.
I next went back to the Norton desktop and opened a C drive
window,selected the file and selected View.It then said 
unable to open the file an error was found in the file header.
Help!?
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