From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Subject: Re: Han-jung Kim's mention about D.J
Message-I.d.: <103795@netnews.upenn.edu>
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:21:35 GMT

>So, do you think that makes DJ defeated?

        Yes, somewhat. 

>That's my point. It didn't matter much in this election. 
>We don't know they really distrust the poll or pretend to distrust. Is it
         Of course , we do not know what was happened in DJ campaign Camp.
      We just guess the probable senario in that CAMP.

>important? I think DJ camp did everything they could do. New DJ Plan was a good
>idea to escape from the distorted image of himself and federation with the
>progressive kept them from voting another candidate(like Bak Ki-Wan). Bak
>couldn't take the votes from DJ. 
>DJ make his votes stable and tried to take YS's and TK or old-ruling party's.
>that was best stratage he can get.
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          This is what I am saying.  DJ's assistant seemed not to collect
          the vote efficiently as much as they did their best.
           This was my mysterious thing to understand.

>
>Before saying "dummy" brains, you have think that how their "dummy" brains affects
>this result of election carefully, with your not "dummy" brain.
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I do not have a "smart brain". With my dummy(?)-- I say - "DUMB" BRAIN, sorry
not to understand how DJ's assistants have affected the election.
Regardless of DJ's campaign brains's endless effort to win, they got
only 34% of the total votes, neverthless most of korean people (including me)
were eager to see the change in their mind.

>I think that the regional hostility was the main cause of this election inspite

I once have read a posting in kids under "HOTISSUE". Among many postings one
came into my mind which has mentioned about REGIONALISM.

He asked if he voted YS, it could be categorized as REGIONALIZM, FOR HE WAS FROM
KYUNSANG-DO.

He told that he could not judge who was better , YS or DJ. Then he claimed that
it was natural to vote his closest personel, because both looked same.
He claimed that his would vote YS wiht a kind of home loving mentality 
(AE Hyang Sim, he called it.  I agreed with this opinion. ).

After I read that posting, I concluded that REGIONALIZM HAS GONE, and eventhough
I had predicted that honam people would support DJ unanimousely then ever, that
was natural to both kyungsang and Julla people. I no longer blame the
 REGIONALIZIM ANY MORE. In 87, Honam people threw stones to YS and at that time
I was REALLY SURPRIZED AND BEGUN TO BE INTERESTED IN REGIONALIZM.

IT WAS REALLY REGIONALIZM, BECAUSE SUCH BEHAVIOR WAS CAUSED BY EMOTIONAL 
FEELING of HONAM PEOPLE. 

But now, I think that word is not proper today. DJ and YS have pro and con.
and Kungsang and Julla people have ever listened to each candidates and
voted the candidate who they believed could be benifit to their onw towm.

If I were born in Honam, I dare say to vote DJ and it is natural mentality.

SO REGIONALIZM SEEMS NOT TO EXIST ANY MORE BUT ONLY IN THE MIND OF OUTSIDERS.
I CALL that a STRONG SUPPORT TO ONE CANDIDATE IS JUST natural FOR THIER
HOME LOVING MENTALITY AND NECESSARILY NOT BE BLAMED.


>of their best tring. I think this is the political limit of DJ and he could not
>help resigning. Busan scandal makes this hostility strong.  

I have thought that if somebody taped the meeting of Honam born-Minjoo members,
they might say that HONAM was so strong and that DJ needed not to visit his
home yard and rather use that point to attack YS and MINJA.  

Therefor in my mind, Pusan scandal could be considered as a revealed
story of the hidden secret of both sides, MINJA and MINJOO.

Their job is to exaggerate even a small good thing and to shrink and to hide
the drawback to win finally.


From your saying, I can imagine the following;

It sounds like that if you were a assistant of DJ, you might say,
"Sir, DJ, you are doomed to be defeated and you will  never win, because
the current situation of KOREA does not allow you to win."

Of course you may not think in this way. 
the above fiction is too much simplified and lack of reality, but probable.


YS has won ultimately.

I do not blame YS to emergy to MINJA. He did his best to be a Prez and
spread his will as a PREZ. If he did not do it, he might disappear in the
past of history.

I believe that CHANCE TO WIN MAY PASS BY NOW AND THEN. But we can analyze
only result with the past information.

I still believe that DJ could win the elction and his defeat was not
the korean people who wanted stable gorvernment.


>Again, the statistics shows some trends, but w ith only the statistics one can not
>predict anything. To predict and apply the trends, one should know what cause
>this statistics. this is the one of the well-known bases of science.

Of course, true.   My saying is about the election poll....

BUSH HAS ALREADY LOST BY SURVEY BEFORE THE VOTING. 
SO I BELIEVE ELECTION POLL DONE BY RELIABLE SURVEY COMPANY. But it is
given to the campaign headquartes to choose the most reliable survey company.

To me, you seem to think that the reason why DJ was defeated was due to the
korean people's mind and if the greater person run the election, korean people
was supposed to the candidate from alwasy the ruling party, am I right?

One may think in that way. But my viewpoint is  that if DJ and his group 
campained the election based on the survey poll, I believe that DJ may
win this game.

DJ has refused to be a candidate for NOBLE PRIZE FOR PEACE and he has chosen 
to run korean prez eletion.
That showed that how strongly DJ wanted to be PREZ so that he could
reform and spread out his political point.

Why must he be limited?   Somewhat or less, he may be limitted but still
DJ might have a chance to win as his neighbour brains have believed.

This is the point why I feel sympathy to DJ.

So my conclusion is;

as BYUNGTAE LEE POINTED OUT, DJ'S ELECTION CAMP SEEMED TOO CONFIDENCE TO
ACCEPT THE REALITY( this means unrealistic),
AS CHAN-JONG PARK DID LAST YEAR IN MINJA COMPETETION.

Thank you so much. My dear friends.

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