HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Re: 3.0 forgets dock contents
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: LAMPF Data Analysis Center, Los Alamos, New Mexico
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:26:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.155426.21472@u.washington.edu>, storti@beach (Duane Storti) writes...
#I just installed 3.0 on my cube and it seems to work OK, but for some reason  
#the icons I placed in the dock get lost when I logout. Does anyone know how to  
#get 3.0 to remember the dock contents? 
# 
Exactly this happened to me last night when I fired up a brand-new, out-of-
the-box Turbostation.  Turns out that, when I registered myself as a new
user (under root, using the NewUser app), I clicked on the "create home
directory?" panel.  THEN I noticed that my uid was 100, not 21 (like I will
eventually want it to be when that machine gets put on the net).  So, I
re-inscribed myself.  

On finding that I couldn't change preferences and have them stick, I 
eventually found that my home directory was owned by user 100 (an unknown
entity).  The solution was to go in as root and 'chown -R silbar /silbar'.

   Dick Silbar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wipeout@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Help needed connecting Supra 14.4 for dialin/out
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:04:24 GMT

I just got a SupraFAXModem 14.4k to replace a Hayes 9600 v.42.  I had
dialin/dialout working just fine, but now dialin is screwed.  I tried
a few things.. but does someone out there already have the Supra working
for dialin/out and can send me the config/settings?

I am using a turbo color station w/040 modem cable from NeXTconnection.

Thanks!

Eric
wipeout@netcom.com
From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  Dropping bundled applications (was: Re: 3.0 and WriteNow)
Distribution: world
Date: 3 Oct 92 08:16:04 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

>In article <1992Oct3.010449.12785@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.091430.11860@ITcorp.com> geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning) writes:
>>
>>How come the release keeps getting bigger, yet the functionality
>>continues to shrink?
>>--
>>	Geoff Kuenning	 geoff@ITcorp.com   uunet!desint!geoff
>
>
>	SHRINK??????  What do you call PostScript Level II, Interactive/Photo-
>realistic RenderMan/3DKit, AppleTalk, NetWare, PANTONE Color, Macintosh FS,
>Application Links, CD-ROM, DBKit, Distributed Objects, ISDN/PhoneKit, the
>Workspace now reuses emptied icon slots on the screen and setuid/gid files
>are displayed in the File Viewer's "listing" mode 8^), etc.
>
>	What got unbundled?  WriteNow!	MusicKit!  /usr/include?  8^)
>
>--Felix

    'Look at the pretty pictures ma'!!  All this stuff is great for
    programmers like us but all the user community sees are the
    applications that use them, and if the applications aren't there then
    you are kinda in trouble.

					-Matt

--

    Matthew Dillon		dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US
    1005 Apollo Way		uunet.uu.net!overload!dillon
    Incline Village, NV. 89451	ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
    USA 			Sandel-Avery Engineering (702)831-8000

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: death@netcom.com (David Burrowes)
Subject: NS 3.0 floppy upgrade --- help!
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 22:21:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary:  Please send me the .app off the NS 3.0 floppy!
Distribution: usa

I just got NS 3.0.   But I have no floppy disk drive in my cube, and
effectively have access to no machines with floppies, easily.

Would some kind soul just dump the .app  from the floppy that came with
the NS 3.0 distribution into NeXTmail, and send it to me?
(or, just tar and uuencode and send via normal email.  whatever!).

Thank you!

\david john burrowes

death@netcom.com
	or 
death%kira.uucp@netcom.com

P.S. I know this is quai ungood (sending copies of commercial software
around like this).  But, I don't get the feeling someone will benefit from
this software without having NS 3.0 already.  So, I don't hesitate to
ask for it in this way.  =)
From: ufessex@mcl.ucsb.edu (Fabian E. Schonholz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: books
Summary: Books about NeXT + NeXTStep + NeXT admin!
Keywords: NeXTStep BOOKS
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:59:44 GMT

Any books I can read about programing for NeXTStep, and NeXT admin that are
readable (that deppends of course on my definition of redability)

Will compile responce and post to net, so please e-mail me to avoid usless
usage of the ether, and intermediate disk space.

Thanks in advance, and a thousand appologies for my spellling (it sucks)

Fabian E. Schonholz
ufessex@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu
fessex@cs.ucsb.edu

--
Fabian E. Schonholz
ufessex@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu.us
fessex@cs.ucsb.edu.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Re: CopyPath under 3.0
Keywords: CopyPath, services
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:28:48 GMT

In article <o%#@byu.edu> yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep25.214607.29246@socrates.umd.edu>, fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes:
>>The service utility CopyPath doesn't work under 3.0 and won't compile.
>>Does anyone hawe a fix yet?
>
>Try dragging and dropping a folder into Terminal.app.  I know it's not
>quite the same, like you have to type "cd " first, but it's quite a nice
>feature.  As I recall, Stuart already did this.  
>
>Later,
>-Don Yacktman

The nice thing about this feature is that if you drag (don't click first)
the WM Browser does not become active and your Terminal window stays in
front for an easy drop.

Speaking of this (window in front stuff), I have occasionly (with 3.0)
gotten into a state where if I click on a window it comes forward but
is NOT active. However, if I click on the title bar it comes forward
and is active (I know about the Alt key stuff, no key pushing is involved
here.) This has only happened a couple of time and I can't reproduce it.
Has anyone else seen this (or was I just working too late.)

Charlie

-- 
	NeXTMail to:		|	...to confer, converse, and 
	charlie@technosci.com	|	otherwise hobnob with my    
				|	brother wizards.	    

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: 24hr clock in preferences, how?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:15:51 GMT

I'd like the preferences clock to display time in 24hr format, 
e.g. 23:14, not 11:14 PM.  How can I do that?

Thanks,
Fredrik

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: root@dakota (Operator)
Subject: Any source on rib files
Organization: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:46:26 GMT

Can someone give me a source on rib files.

thanks,
kevin rarick
krarick@hsd.com
From: d_mc%McCube.tucson.az.us@arizona.edu (Don McCollam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is HSD still there?
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:05:31 GMT
Reply-To: d_mc%McCube.tucson.az.us@arizona.edu (Don McCollam)
Distribution: na,local

In article <1992Sep30.004023.4847@dakota.hsd.com>  writes:
> In article < 1992Sep24.191606.3748@arizona.edu>  
> d_mc%McCube.tucson.az.us@arizona.edu (Don McCollam) writes:
> >
> > Hi, folks,
> >
> > Has anyone heard from HSD lately?  I've recently posted several  
> > e-mail messages to them; but haven't gotten any replies. HSD   
> > folks used to respond promptly; so I'm a bit worried.
> >
> > Don
> 
> Don:
> 
> I've sent replies to all of your email inquiries (both before and  
> after you became an HSD customer), and most responses were sent  
> within an hour of receiving your original mail message. I'd say  
> that's a pretty good response rate!
> 
> In the past month, you've sent six messages, to which I've  
> responded immediately. The responses were sent to  
> d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (Don McCollam) on the following dates:
> 
> 	August 31
> 	September 04
> 	September 04 (second message)
> 	September 14
> 	September 22
> 	September 26
> 
> All of these messages bounced.
> 
> Since you do not include a signature file in your messages  
> indicating how to reach you via email, I send replies to the  
> address that is automatically inserted by sendmail. Apparently  
> this address is not valid...
> 
> A quick call to our TOLL FREE number (listed below), and we'll not  
> only offer any support you might need regarding HSD products, but  
> we'll do our best to help you get your email working properly as  
> well.
> 
> --
> David W. Peter
> dpeter@hsd.com
> (800) 828-5522
> (415) 964-1400

My appologies to HSD.  It turns out that the University's mail server is
failing to re-attempt delivery of non-delivered mail over SLIP lines.
If the line is up, mail is delivered.  If the line is down, mail is 
queued - but no attempt is made to deliver queued mail when the Slip line
comes up.  So, some mail I got, some mail I didn't get.

Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: scotty@gagetalker.com (Scott Turner)
Subject: Re: The New NeXT Keyboard
Organization: L5 Computing
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:10:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.065056.3407@muddcs.claremont.edu>  
wfp@jupiter.claremont.edu (W. Frank Price III) writes:
|> So for those who get their copies of NeXTWORLD third hand about three weeks  
|> late, what is the deal on the new keyboard for those with old systems?  For  
|> example, can I just plug the new keyboard into my NeXTStation, or do I have  
to  
|> get a new NeXT for the ADB?
First off, they did ADB by changing the sound box. So mono slabs are
out of luck.

As for color machines, a complicating factor is that NeXT also went to 72hz
refresh when they did the ADB upgrade. The old 17" monitor doesn't do 72hz
and keep it's warranty (my local dealer says they can be tweaked but that
NeXT won't honor the warranty afterwards.)

The next problem is that ADB doesn't look like whatever NeXT was using
before, so the bootrom needs to know about it. The only machines that do
are those color turbos with serial #16000 and above.

So all in all I think the answer is "Sell your old NeXT and buy a new NeXT."
(which is what my dealer claims the local NeXT sales office told him I should
do with my _3 week_ old color turbo!)

NeXT would seem to be making some bad "loyalty pays" moves this year. I can
hear the OD owners already, "You didn't help us, so now they think they can
screw everyone." Sigh. I do wonder why NeXT felt the need to make the new
sound boxes force the monitor to 72hz, even an internal DIP switch would have
made quite a difference here. Or even a trace to cut like on some of the
Apple ]['s.

Scotty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Subject: Re: AUUUUG! December ship on July order!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:34:54 GMT

In article <JASHLEY.92Sep29203810@garbo.cs.indiana.edu> jashley@cs.indiana.edu writes:
>
>I wish everyone would quit griping about ship dates and how they want
>to maim and murder because they don't have their 3.0.  This noise is
>obscuring all the bug reports.
>
>Mike

    Uh, excuse me, but I think that I have a legitimate complaint since
    NeXT seems to be employing their "random order" or preferential 
    shipping systems again.  Their seems to  evidence to suggest that
    NeXT did not ship their available CD-ROM drives to customers on a 
    FIFO order bases.

        	        	       	       	       	       	       	       
                                                               - Max

  | William R. Herndon               \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
  | EMail: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org  \    Secure Information Technology |
  | NeXTMail: bill@mephisto.gotham.com \                ( 703 ) 883-6393 |
  |                                                                      |
  |         "When you're cool, the world bores you."   - Calvin          |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: patrick@tpki.toppoint.de (Patrick Exner)
Subject: Links from AppleShare do not updte!
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:55:00 GMT
Keywords: Appleshare links placed documents

I placed some graphics into a PasteUp document. If you change them (i.e.
with Illustrator) and save them, they arte updated immediately in the 
PasteUp -Page. If the graphic is made/changed on a Mac and linked from
a Mac into the NeXTs Document, It became not updated.
Does the NeXT not recognize the changing-date of files from AppleShare-
mounted HDs?
Whats the Bug ?????

-- 
Patrick Exner		patrick@tpki.toppoint.de
2300 Kiel
From: lemke@verbosa.ncd.com (David Lemke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adobe/Sun Announce
Keywords: Adobe Sun Solaris Postscript
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:27:39 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices

In article <1992Sep28.163058.6642@RedBrick.COM>, jfr@RedBrick.COM writes:
|>In article <2097@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>
|> >
|> >Oh, btw, how is Sun making DisplayPostScript run on those X terminals?
|> 
|>   This is not a very difficult thing to do.  X11R5 has the ability to
|>   support extensions to X, including such things as Font Servers and
|>   Display Postscript managers.  The actual extension will run on an
|>   X-client machine since most X-servers will not have the extension
|>   directly available (although it is possible that X terminals will
|>   start to support some of these extensions directly).  

some corrections/nits:

first, X11 has always supported an extension mechanism, since R1
(9/30/87).  also, the Font Server is not an extension, though its expected
to assist future extensions.

in NCD's case the DPS extension will be in the server (ie, X terminal).
(in fact, by definition any extension is in the server). 

Adobe has demoed (at this year's Xhibition) a server which allows XDPS
to be translated by another server into raw X calls, which will allow
any X server to display XDPS.

-- 
Dave Lemke				lemke@ncd.com
Network Computing Devices, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: Re: Is HSD still there?
Reply-To: dpeter@hsd.com
Organization: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:40:23 GMT

In article < 1992Sep24.191606.3748@arizona.edu>  
d_mc%McCube.tucson.az.us@arizona.edu (Don McCollam) writes:
>
> Hi, folks,
>
> Has anyone heard from HSD lately?  I've recently posted several  
> e-mail messages to them; but haven't gotten any replies. HSD   
> folks used to respond promptly; so I'm a bit worried.
>
> Don

Don:

I've sent replies to all of your email inquiries (both before and  
after you became an HSD customer), and most responses were sent  
within an hour of receiving your original mail message. I'd say  
that's a pretty good response rate!

In the past month, you've sent six messages, to which I've  
responded immediately. The responses were sent to  
d_mc@mccube.tucson.az.us (Don McCollam) on the following dates:

	August 31
	September 04
	September 04 (second message)
	September 14
	September 22
	September 26

All of these messages bounced.

Since you do not include a signature file in your messages  
indicating how to reach you via email, I send replies to the  
address that is automatically inserted by sendmail. Apparently  
this address is not valid...

A quick call to our TOLL FREE number (listed below), and we'll not  
only offer any support you might need regarding HSD products, but  
we'll do our best to help you get your email working properly as  
well.

--
David W. Peter
dpeter@hsd.com
(800) 828-5522
(415) 964-1400
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Subject: Re: 3.0 FontPanel acceleration is broken (BUG!!?)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:02:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.023315.26886@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo) writes:
>In article <5335@rosie.NeXT.COM> aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct4.043034.213@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.uucp writes:
>>>From the Developer Release Notes/AppKit:
>>>	  The FontPanel, when key, will select in the Family scrolling list when  
>>>	   you type the first few characters of a family name.
>>>Well, What am I missing here. When key (titlebar is black) typing will just  
>>>change the size attribute rather than select the font. Anyone got a better way?
>>
>>This would work if you could ever get the size field not be selected. Unfortunately,
>>you can't. 
>>
>>Rather than a bug, I'd call this a feature you can't use. Sigh.
>>
>>Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com
>
>	Please don't take this personal, but ...
>
>	If it's a feature, and it's a documented feature, and it doesn't work
>as documented, then it's clearly a bug!  A bug, is a bug, is a bug!!!!
>
>	Stop apologizing!  8^)  Remember, this is 3.0.  The .0 means that
>it WILL (or is it MUST?) have bugs.  I'm amazed at the number of features that
>were added to this release and how REASONABLY stable it is.  I think you guys
>deserve a pat in the back or maybe even a belly-rub.  8^)
>
>--Felix
>

	Hold the press ... I just discovered that it DOES work.

	Follow these steps:

	* Launch Edit
	* Order front the Font Panel (Command-t)
	* Click on the title bar to make panel key
	* Select a Font and Typeface (say Courier-Bold12)
	* Click on Preview and click on the preview Text object
	* Shift-click on the Typeface already selected (i.e., Bold)
	* Now use the arrow keys to traverse the fonts.

	It's not perfect (i.e., you can only move around the Family column in
the Browser since it doesn't move "right" to select a typeface), but it
performs the trick.  For a greater effect, shift-click the Preview button
so that it's always highlighted.

--Felix

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From: yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: WHICH multimedia hypertext systems to use???
Keywords: Wait for HyperSense from Thoughtful Software USA


In article <1992Oct5.180336.7034@liveware.com>, todd@liveware.com writes:
>In article <BvnAF2.8n3@cosy.sbg.ac.at> bnocker@puma.cosy.sbg.ac.at (Bernhard  
>Nocker) writes:
>> 
>> Hi all!
>> 
>> We are looking for multimedia hypertext systems.
>> We have seen the CraftMan Demo and were impressed but not yet satisfied!
>>  
>> Which one are you using, for what, where to get them, advantages,  
>> disadvantages???
>
>Well, I have a few opinions.  I am posting this to the group
>because I feel it is important.
>
>Please wait for HyperSense (formerly HyperCube) from Thoughtful
>Software, USA. 

And wait _how_much_longer_?  It's been well over a year since I first
heard of this thing... and in a recent conversation with a friend this
one came up under the "Whatever Happened To xxx?" category!  It may be
a fine product, but availability seems to leave a little to be
desired, don't you think?  :-)

Later,
-Don Yacktman
From: cfw@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Chuck Waltrip)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Pathetic news from NeXT--what's new??
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:28:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab

In article <1992Sep30.190608.9321@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> wag1@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (d.wagley) writes:
>In article <SOWA.92Sep30105336@amdew.llnl.gov>, sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes:
>> >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Matthews <matthews@oberon.umd.edu> writes:
>> 
>> Mike> In article <joer.36.717781768@inca.law.csuohio.edu> joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
>> Mike> I ordered a CD ROM well before 8/1/92 and I'll have to wait too.
>> 
>> Nyah. I ordered mine in May and picked it up the NeXT day. I endured a
>> lot of flack from people who said it would be useless for months until
>> 3.0 came out. Me, I just smiled and played with some ISO-9660 disks for
>> a few months. Did ya ever think there might be a rush near the end?
>> --
>> erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
>
>Me too. I figured that if I waited until 3.0 came out the order
>might take a while. The player sat for a few months until I got
>the 3.0 CD-ROM, but I'm happy now. :-)
>
> 				Doug
>
>
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How Slow is NeXTSTEP 3.0 w/ 8 megs ram?
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:16:02 GMT
	<Bvo401.IzB@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <HARDY.92Oct5222730@golem.ps.uci.edu>
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
In-reply-to: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu's message of 6 Oct 92 05:27:32 GMT

>>>>> "Hardy" == Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy) <hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu> writes:
Hardy> Emacs 18.55 is still broken: you cannot run scheme from it, and it
Hardy> does not accept the newer tree-dired, and ange-ftp which depends on

The newer tree-dired works on my 3.0 system!. Can't live without it!
FWIW, I am using Zawinski's byte-optimizing compiler.

--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  Edit vs. Edit.app
Distribution: world
Date: 25 Sep 92 10:09:35 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <HARDY.92Sep24142751@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
>In article <dillon.0o9y@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>???
>???	   Speaking of which, does anyone know how to set a page-break in
>???	   Edit ?  I can't seem to find any way to do it and it's one of
>???	   the most basic functions you can have in a WYSIWYG editor.
>???
>Isn't it possible to insert a ^L? (Obviously I am not a frequent Edit-user.)
>I do this all the time in ascii files or even source code (for
>scheme), for readability.
>--
>Hardy

    What, for an RTF file ?

					-Matt

>-----
>Meinhard E. Mayer,  Department of Physics, UC Irvine
>e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
>

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    1005 Apollo Way		uunet.uu.net!overload!dillon
    Incline Village, NV. 89451	ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
    USA 			Sandel-Avery Engineering (702)831-8000

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Subject: Beauty of 3.0 ... I need more Icons
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Distribution: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:50:28 GMT

After upgrading my NeXTColor and NeXTDimension stations to 3.0
(in fact, following the M's suggestion* I did a new installation on my ND,
to gain better disk tuning), I am more and more impressed by beauty of the
colorful interface. Despite of old habits, I have set now the File Viewer
for displaying views in the "Icon" (and not "Browser") mode.

The directories like "/NextAdmin", "/NextApps" and "NextDeveloper/Demos"
really take the breath away. All details still have the master touch of
Keith Ohlfs. The NeXT's team has managed to maintain the difficult balance
between discipline of computer science and beauty of the fine art.

I am sincerely impressed.

And therefore my proposal:

Would it be possible to start collecting of nice icons, may be distributed
by NeXT, which would enable keeping the style while organizing own tree
of subdirectories ?
Users would be able to move some icons as ".dir.tiff" (and also ".opendir.tiff")
arranging directory views. So, the Mailboxes, Apps and other directories would
tell by icon their character.

This would complement distribution of the Objects, and would be in a sense
revolutionary in GUI design.

Of course, using the IconBuilder (or Icon) everybody could create some icons,
but it is important to maintain the impressionistic, fairy (and delicate) touch.
This would be in even stronger contrast to Windows (and NT).
Why not to keep the impetus ?


   ... dreaming in colors ...

	-Z.



*) M Carling had written longer (as for him) explanation of reasons why
"newly install" instead "upgrade" to 3.0.
May be this statement could be repeated for people who did not notice this
info ?