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From: George.Vaisey@f237.n260.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Testing!!
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 15:48:00 -0800

Dave,
         I would accept NO money from you any ways.  I would be honored
to test it and about getting a new register version is TOTALLY up to
you!!  Regarding the transmittal time it would have to be after 3:00p on
weekdays and no later then 11:00pm.  On weekends you have to just call
via phone and see if I am available (most likely YES).  I'm gald that it
was just a fluke with the trash problem. Talk to ya later.


                   George Vaisey

PS: Regarding check in times just write or call me and I will give you
an update on how its going.

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From: drmsr@cislabs.pitt.edu (Marc S Rosenthal)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Volunteer vs. Paid.
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:44:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I would also like to add, that there are not-for-profits ems services
that are made up of a mixture of volunteers and paid staff.
At Wilkins-Churchill Rescue One, a not-for-profit ambulance service
providing ALS service to the boros of Churchill and Wilkins, PA, (outside
Pittsburgh) we run with both volunteers and paid staff.  All officers and
directors are volunteer members, our EMTs and Medics, both paid and 
volunteer work together in providing EMS service.
We used to be all volunteer, but do not have enough volunteers anymore,
especially for daylight coverage.
Our system works well.
Marc Rosenthal, Ph.D., EMT-P
President, WCRO
WB2FGV

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Subject: (no subject given)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:50:48 -0500
From:         MEG04@ALBNYDH2.BITNET

 The correct address for subscribing to the listEMSNY-L is

 listserv@albnydh2.bitnet

 .                           Mike Gilbertson
 .                           (meg04@albnydh2.bitnet)
From: Gary.Saffer@f290.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Saffer)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Emergency Show
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 20:59:00 -0800

RM}=>   I think it was Joe Early and Kelly Bracken????  NOW look
  }   It was Kelly Brackett. The nurse was Dixie McCall. Now what was
the name
  }of the ambulance company that provided transport?

Mayfair, or was it Mayhew. The mere fact that I can remember that much
proves that a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Later

Gary

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From: Doug.Plaza@f413.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Plaza)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Volunteers
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 09:57:47 -0800

In most states any citizen can file a motor vehicle complaint. 
Although
it should not be your primary concern, if you have a problem with a
driver you usually can have a ticket issued providing you get a vehicle
registration and driver description. You will usually have to sign the
ticket, and if the driver fights it, you will have to appear in court.
                                   Doug Plaza MICP  N.J.


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From: Bruce.Phillips@f182.n132.z1.fidonet.org (Bruce Phillips)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Voulunteer Fd And Lig
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 08:20:00 -0800

>>   important thing when responding to a fire scene.  I'm
> not sure where
>>   I read it but I believe the most common cause of (line
> of duty)
>>death
>>   for vol. firefighters is MVA's
This a true statement.. In Volunteer Fire Departments, Responding to and
returning from incidents are the most common cause of injury and death.

 
> 
> I think you may be wrong on the death statistics.  I know
> that for all
> firefighters, heart attacks are the leader.  I am just not
> sure on the
> division between full-time and volunteer.  I will look the
> stats up
> tonight and post them tomorrow.
> 
I read the same thing, and I thought it was in Fire House Mag.. Leading
cause of death in Career Fire Fighters was Heart/Stress related
injuries. MVA was for Volunteers.

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: af905@yfn.ysu.edu (Ed Shanks)
Subject: I stand corrected
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:38:07 GMT


Ed Shanks (me) wrote about having never seen anyone written up
for impeding the progress of an emergency response vehicle. I
later was reminded at work that once a cop happened to be behind 
our squad truck when someone deliberately would not let them
pass. He ticketed them. 
Then I read Joel Peshkin's reply to my post. He reports not 
only turning in the info himself and the local PD mailing out a
ticket, but having the PD come to him to get info, and the cop
then busting the driver.  As for being poor PR, it's not as bad
as a burned down house or a cold, stiff "choking" call!
My original wish, which I've wanted to do for about the last 10
years, was to hang a snowplow on the front of the trucks. That
way you could just shove the idiots aside and go! Maybe when I
hit the lottery and buy my own fire department, I'll try it! :-)

Anyway, I stand corrected. 

Standard disclaimers apply.
-- 
       Ed Shanks      af905@yfn.ysu.edu
       Sr. Firefighter (and lots of other titles, as well!)
       Boardman Fire Dept.    Boardman, Ohio
       "It's not just an adventure, its a job!"
From: Barbara.Mezzanini@f7.n2609.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mezzanini)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Albany Conference
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 01:20:00 -0800

   Just a quick message to any New York or nearby state's
   callers:  Anyone else going to the NYS EMS Conference in
   Albany N.Y. this Nov. 13-15th. ???

   If you'll be going, are you interested in meeting up with
   any others from here? Shreyas Shah and myself were talking
   about the possibilities of meeting fellow EMS providers
   from this net. If interested, let us know :) hope to see
   you there!

   Take care, Barb Mezzanini, Utica, N.Y. Firefighter\AEMT-CC
              Job Related Disability Retired,
              still current,  AEMT-CC

... I forgot all about the Amnesia Conference
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From: Bill.Fenimore@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Fenimore)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: software
Date: 29 Oct 92 22:55:38 GMT


 SW> There is a shareware program that is designed just for
 SW> Volunteer Fire Departments or piad for that mater which will
 SW> keep up with equipment, fire stats, membership, training and my
 SW> other details involved in maintaining a fire dept.  I don't
 SW> know what the name of the file is but I have a copy somewhere.
 SW> If you are interested send me a disk and I will copy it for you.

 SW> Scott Wilson, EMT-P
 SW> 2612 Mulberry Lane
 SW> Pasadena, Texas 77502

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 SW> PCRelay:CAROLINA -> #480 RaceNet (tm)
 SW> 4.11                RaceNet: (803) 871-9771 HST / 875-2019 DS
 SW> v32

 SW> --- DB 1.39/004376
 SW>  * Origin: The Computer Forum Va Beach, VA (804) 471-0736
 SW>  (1:275/17)

Read your message to Bruce Wilson about the shareware that you have for
tracking Fire Department memberships, training etc..  The department
that I am with here in Pa. is looking into moving the records from
paper
to computer also.  Instead of having to write one from scratch for my
department, it sounds like what you have might work for us also.  If I
send you a diskette, would it be possible for you to make me a
copy also?  If so, just let me know what size and density diskette you
need and I can send one out to you.  Any and all help will be
appreciated. Thank You.












... Silver Xpress!.........  Don't leave home without it!
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From: Ed.Matthews@f13.n284.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Matthews)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Freddy the firetruck
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 06:07:00 -0800

MW>Is there anyone else out on the net that uses Freddie the Firetruck
MW>and/or Pluggie the Fireplug robots in your fire prevention/education
MW>programs ? If do, I am looking to swap program ideas, i.e. skits and
MW>other materials used to upgrade our program.
The Springfield, Missouri, Fire Department has a "Pluggie," and I've
watched them do some interesting things with it.  Their "fire
education"
number is 417-864-1515, and the secretary should be able to point you
to
the correct person.

(I'm not a member of the department, but am a friend of their last
chief
and a few firefighters.)

Ed Matthews, FF/FR
Brookline, MO, FPD
  SLMR 2.1a  Real computer users do it on the command line.


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Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 12:56:08 EST
From:         WRIGHT@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Freddy the firetruck

>Is there anyone else out on the net that uses Freddie the Firetruck
>and/or Pluggie the Fireplug robots in your fire prevention/education
>programs ? If do, I am looking to swap program ideas, i.e. skits and
>other materials used to upgrade our program.
>Also, if anyone from FDNY happens to be reading this and can point me
>to FF Johnny Ruiz, please let me know. I understand he as a "rap"
>program that he uses with Freddie and this sounds extremely interesting
>and am hoping he may want to share this program.
>Thanks to all
>Jim Sheppard
>Bucks County Sta 32 (Levittown Fire Co #1) PA
> * TNet 3.50  VIA Filly Flix BBS 215/722/1482 The best in gifs
>
>PCRelay:CAROLINA -> #480 RaceNet (tm)
>4.11                RaceNet: (803) 871-9771 HST / 875-2019 DS v32
>
> * Origin: The Computer Forum Va Beach, VA (804) 471-0736 (1:275/17)


The Ashland, Kentucky Fire Department uses Freddy and may have the Fire plug
contact

Ast. Chief Gary Watts
City of Ashland Fire Department
Station 1
Greenup Ave.
Ashland, Ky.  41101
From: Gary.Reardon@f131.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Reardon)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Echolist
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 20:33:48 -0800

In a msg on <Nov 02 12:05>, David Rye of 1:3649/10@fidonet.org writes:

 >>         Anyone care to add to the list or comment?
 DR>     I'll comment.  I just wish everyone would get these echos 
 DR> FidoNet backbone listed instead of going through the trouble of 
 DR> forming their own networks.  Why add the additional expense of 
 DR> the different routing and so forth when a perfectly viable 
 DR> routing scheme is already set up with FidoNet?

That is not always possible. Echos to be carried on the backbone require
requests from to RC's to be put on and also require a minimum traffic
level to remain. EmergNet also carries echo that have restrictions on
access, which is also difficult to do on a backbone echo.
There are a few EmergNet echos that are also on the backbone:

EMS, SAR & CRASH .



GMR


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From: Darrin.Culver@f53.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Darrin Culver)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: recerts.
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:31:00 GMT

BM>   yes, I keep forgetting, sorry! I do realize volunteers
BM>   have time and money restrictions. Does the squad reimburse
BM>   for any training?

        Yes they do. Kinda. They reinburse you for the cost of the
        course books. But only after the class is over and you have
        passed the course. That's all well and good. But what about the
        Mileage and the gas burned in my truck and all this other good
        stuff. Oh well!, now I guess I'm pushing my luck.<G>

BM>   I HOPE SO TOO!!!  Good luck to `Cheeco' hope he makes it!

        I don't think it will be a problem, everybody seems to love
him.

BM>   I hope you make it Darrin, it will give you that little
BM>   extra push you need to keep going :)  You DO HAVE the
BM>   drive, don't let them put you in park, or worse
BM>   yet, reverse! Ok Little Brother?

         NO! I'll be damned if their gonna push me out. They may push
me
         back a little but I'll never quit.

                OK, Big Sister!?!?

                                                        Later;

                                                        Baby Huey


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From: roche@cs.rochester.edu (James Roche)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: emergency driving
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:57:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov9.195705.10528
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester

>(e)  the foregoing provisions shall not relieve the driver of an authorized
>emerg vehicle from the duty to drive with the due regard for the safety of 
>all persons, nor shall such provisions protect the driver from the 
>consequences of his reckless disregard for the safety of others.

It is interesting to note that our EVOC instructor pointed out that
under NYS law the only drivers that have to drive with "due regard for 
the safety of others" are drivers of emergency vehicles. No one else
has the burden of driving with due regard for safety of others.

The civil juries will use this in every case to hang the driver of the
emergency vehicle.

This is the clause the drunk that runs the red light and hits a fire
truck will use to win some outlandish award.

-- 
Jim Roche
roche@cs.rochester.edu
University of Rochester Computer Science Department Rochester, NY 14627
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: fireman@wam.umd.edu (Aaron Joseph Peterson)
Subject: Re: OOPS!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:57:09 GMT

I believe Sandy Lee (sp?) was a FF in Prince Georges Co. MD
That's a long way from Phoenix.
From: David.Mastrianni@f120.n324.z1.fidonet.org (David Mastrianni)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: ALBANY CONFERENCE
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1992 18:55:00 -0800

Hello All!

I have heard mention of A Conference in Albany NY.  Can anyone give me
all the info on this as I am Origonally from this area, and it would be
a good excuse to get back home and see the folks.

        Thanks In Advance,
        David Mastrianni
        The Trauma Room! BBS
        Hamilton, MA
        (508)468-4596


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From: Dave.Pfister@f702.n278.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Pfister)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: OOPS!
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 16:33:20 -0800

**buzz** Wrong Answer.

Mr Maynard -

 In your post dated November 3, 1992 you stated "In NY if you have your

lights and sirens on you are responsible for anything that happens on
the 
road.  The driver of the FD is responsible for all injuries and
damages..." 
etc. etc.

You're wrong on that point.  As a driver with a FD in New York (who has
been 
involved in an accident or two (not with me behind the wheel)) I can
tell you 
that although there is responsibility, except for in cases of *extreme*

negligience, there's not much to worry about.

First of all, there are laws in the New York State books that provide a

safety net for Volunteer (I believe paid i.e. FDNY also falls under this
law) 
Firefighters that protects them from being directly sued for an accident
that 
may occur while they are driving.  The FD or Municipality would be the 
defendants in any suit that is brought about - nothing would go on the 
driver's license.

Secondly, if you have your lights and sirens on, you are *not*
responsible 
for "anything that happens on the road."  If you are involved in an
accident 
that (once again, except for in cases of extreme negligience) you are
not 
"automatically at fault."  e.g. if you are broadside a vehicle with a
red 
light against you, technically speaking, you are at fault since
"caution" was 
not exercised, but an accident on the road does not automatically make
you 
at fault.

-Dave

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From: Barbara.Mezzanini@f7.n2609.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mezzanini)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: recerts.
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 03:35:00 -0800

 DC> Unfortunately at the moment there are no training requirments
 DC> to belong to our squad. The difference has to be that your
 DC> department is paid and we are volunteer.

   yes, I keep forgetting, sorry! I do realize volunteers
   have time and money restrictions. Does the squad reimburse
   for any training?

 DC> On a little side note, The problems that I mentioned with our
 DC> squad may be on their way to being solved. It's gonna be a lot
 DC> of work but the door is about to open ( I HOPE!!! ).'Cheeco'

   I HOPE SO TOO!!!  Good luck to `Cheeco' hope he makes it!

 DC> is gonna' run for Captain in December. He was Captain for four
 DC> He is a little soft when it comes down to discipline but that
 DC> is his only real flaw. God I hope he get's elected. I am gonna
 DC> run for 2nd Lt., I hope I get elected too.

   I hope you make it Darrin, it will give you that little
   extra push you need to keep going :)  You DO HAVE the
   drive, don't let them put you in park, or worse
   yet, reverse! Ok Little Brother?

   Things are looking up 8-)

   *B*


... Contrary to popular belief, the cat is not a domesticated animal
...
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From: George.Vaisey@f237.n260.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Scan-B
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 19:44:00 -0800

Dave,
        What ever you would like to do.. Also today (11-6-92) I received
a private letter from a "pi@@ed off" person.  We has saying how I was
getting him mad by writing to you PUBLICALLY and not privately.  Well if
he is reading this well TOUGH ON YOU.  Hope to talk to ya soon.  Parents
are considering Scan-b a Christmas present, so be prepared for a check
(don't mention it to me).  If I know about it I'll write you and let you
know its coming.  Thanks again.

                 George Vaisey

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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: OOPS!
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 12:44:00 -0800

JE> JE> That would be great, BTW have you seen the Sandy Lee story?
JE>  PV> No I haven't what is it about? So you are sending everything
JE> including the
JE>  PV> patch by UPS??
JE> It's about a Phenoix firefighter that was caught under the wheels of
a
JE> pumper and was dragged about 30 feet. It's a good film for new
members
JE> and vets. makes you think about getting on the truck without putting
all
JE> your turnout gear on, She was putting her boots on when she fell of
the
JE> truck.
JE>
JE> On the patch I still have to get one then send them all.
JE>
JE> Later..
Jamie:
Oh that movie ! I've seen that before at the fire house it's a very
touching
movie..It's pretty sad to..
About the patch that would just fine with me Jamie..

Later..
Paul..  
 
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From: deglop@dewey.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Need info on FPE program at UMD
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:14:53 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: dewey.eeap.cwru.edu

In article <1992Nov9.212309.14936@wam.umd.edu> fireman@wam.umd.edu (Aaron Joseph Peterson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.195442.23339@cs.odu.edu> thurs_j@aelle.cs.odu.edu (Jason Thurston) writes:
>>hoping that someone on here can give me some information about the
>>fire protection engineering program at University of Maryland-College
>
>The College Park Fire Department is a Prince Georges County (MD)
>fire station (Station 12) manned by students enrolled in the
>University of Maryland. The present facilities are capable of

>spots to fill. The spots are filled in the following order.
>1- CPVFD members, 2 - U.M. fire protection engineers, 3 - U.M.
>students. Generally you must be enrolled at the University of

I think he was asking about the Fire Protection Enginnering major more
than College Park VFD.  I'd like to make it clear that these are
_totally_ seperate organizations.  You can easily be enrolled in one
or the other, although the proximity of the station to the UM campus
makes it a popular place to ride.

To get information on the major itself, I'd suggest calling 301
information, getting a number for the campus operator, and asking for the
Fire Protection Engineering department.  The Admissions department will
usually be happy to send you catalogs and such, and someone in the FPE
department can tell you about the programs.  You might look in your college
library as well -- often you'll find catalogs from other large schools. 

I have no affiliation with either UM or any Prince George's County
fire/rescue organization.


-- 
         Jacob DeGlopper, EMT-A, Wheaton (MD) Volunteer Rescue Squad
            -- CWRU Biomedical Engineering - jrd5@po.cwru.edu --
From: David.Pinero@f9.n377.z1.fidonet.org (David Pinero)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Testing
Date: 8 Nov 92 11:12:00 GMT

George:
 
Just a couple of lines to let you know how things are going:
 
[1]  In regards to the TRASH utility for Scan-B, I went ahead and
created
     an "artificially" generated Scan-B datafile of 500+ records.  I
     actually went as high as one thousand records to REALLY blow
things
     out of proportion--figuring if a crash were going to occur, it
would
     do so at this outrageous amount of records.  Well, despite
everything
     I tried, I could not get the datafile to wreck itself.  Therefore
     I am going to venture ahead and remove the "TRASH" warning that
     warns against using the utility with large files.  Feel free to
     use the utility with confidence once again.  Just be sure to make
     back ups of your datafiles so that in case this happens again
     (however it did the first time), you won't have lost any time
     or effort.  By the way, one thing that came out as a result of my
     testing is the knowledge that Scan-B will only hold 500 records.

[2]  I do have a higher version of Scan-B that needs to be tested.  If
     you are interested, let me know via this network.  The support BBS
     no longer is maintained due to technical difficulties with the
     phone system here at the University of South Florida.  If you want
to
     help out, we need to arrange a transmittal date (to your system),
and
     some time of scheduled report.  I can't pay you anything, but I'll
     barter some of your time for a registered version of the latest 
     Scan-B (which will be the one you are testing).  The most notable
     feature of the latest Scan-B version is the sorting time.  I have
     improved it dramatically!  Let me know!  

Thanks,
  Dave


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