HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:23:53 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Jul30.144759.4192@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>  The bureaucracy involved with the HMO
>system is far worse than anything I've heard from Canadians commenting
>on their system.  National health care should be just that,
>not a federal mandate for extortion payments to private corporations
>who are in business to make a profit.

Sounds like your HMO was not as good as either of the two that my wife
and I have been in.  The only problem we ever had was with multiple
similar procedures where they initially miscounted by one (non-stress
tests for my wife during pregnancy, two in one day in the first 
pregnancy--that really confused them).  But I did have a co-worker who
had a "managed care" plan from a non-HMO that had a lot of trouble
with coverage for his wife's hospital stay.

Still, if you look at the current situation, you as an indivdual have
two choices:

(a) Make "extortion payments to private corporations who are in
business to make a profit," in the hopes that they'll cover you
(which as you've pointed out, is not certain);

(b) Don't buy insurance and pray you don't have an expensive accident
or illness.

In either case, when you pay you pay for MORE than the actual fair 
cost of your care, because you are also paying for those people who
took the THIRD option (oops, forgot to mention it before :-) :

(c) Don't buy insurance, rack up whatever medical bills you like
and then don't pay them.

The former occupants of one of my old apartments had a baby and
several months of infant care and other medical care under plan (c).

Another thing, though--if the hospital knew that there was always an
insurance company somewhere to dun for the bills, because insurance
was universal, would they waste time and money trying to collect from
individuals like you and me?  I think not.  They'd talk to the
insurance company.

The hospital would also be able to treat any sort of accident injuries
promptly and well without having to worry about whether they'd get
paid (at least until after the emergency was past).  <-- gotta keep
this tied into motorcycling somehow!

Don't take me as advocating one particular system over all others;
I'm just observing that as far as I can determine, the one we have
here right now is one of the worst.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Catalogs, &c.
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:29:21 GMT

cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.204203.1816@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> scott@sgisupport.lerc.nasa.gov (SGI_Junkie) writes:
>>In article <BONG-220792091119@kinetics.slac.stanford.edu> BONG@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Eric Bong) writes:

>>> Ask Ken what it's like to hit a bear at 40mph with a BMW R100RS.
>>>Pelvis broken in 4 places, broken hip, broken wrist, pulverized spleen.
>>>He'll be looking for a new bike in about two months.

>>   So what happened to the bear?

>I thought he *was* talking about the bear!

Ok folks, we've been warned. That bear will be looking for another bike
in a couple of months.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:53:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.131757.22215@rchland.ibm.com> Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it.  writes:

>I'm proposing we start a sticker campaign like the one I read about 
>from a group of disabled people.  What they do is if someone without a 
>permit is found in a handicapped parking zone they slap a sticker that 
>says something like, "I Park Illegally in Handicap Parking Zones!" on 
>the car's bumper.
>to be carring today.  I would like to start a campaign that whenever 
>someone does stuff like that their car starts carrying that message.  Don't

and i nominate the center of the driver's windshield as the site of sticking.
most boneheads will scratch the thing off, severely marring the glass that
they really don't look out of anyway.

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|       Don't look to me for proof that women get off easier than men.     |
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From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: mirror question
Summary: I need a mirror, and I want opionions
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:35:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I need to get a right side mirror for my '88 Hawk.  Is there any reason
to spend an extra $12, or so, for the Honda mirror as opposed to an
aftermarket mirror?


-- 
|The opinions expressed above are merely the result of random synaptic firings.|
|Due to a lack of interest there will be no more poetry in my sig.   -   O     |
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|captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Brian Murfin)  DoD# 0690   Hawk       \_^___/    |

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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:04:29 GMT

In article <Jul.28.15.08.35.1992.12656@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum) writes:

>.... to knock the kickstand up ....

is this a tie-in to the "sex-on'a'bike" thread?

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|       Don't look to me for proof that women get off easier than men.     |
|                               -- Evelyn                                  |
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From: parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Leaving the RCR (short, because I hate to type...)
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:46:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, MI

After a brief visit to the place with the cool teepees and
swimming hole, making friends, eating chicken and putting
faces with the sigs, I left at 5:15am on Sunday for 14
hours back to Detroit.

Did I wake anyone up? I pushed the RT away from the tents
before starting 'er up, because it was so early.

The rule for the BRP at 6am is *deer.* A close encounter
of the four legged kind slowed my initial pace of 55mph
back to 40. (For about 10 miles. Then it was back to 55
again.) On the way out I counted 12 Bambi's, zero llamas,
one very tired kitty, and many other very *flat* critters.
In the 12 mile stretch where the *Deer Dancing* signs are
posted, I saw no deer. Go figure.

I got a kick out of the paint stripe across the BRP
indicating the state lines. Was that for real?

I ran out of cash for the WVA Turnpike, so I had to stop and
give them my SSN for an envelope to put a check for $1.25
into and drop it into the mail. Twenty minutes waiting, 29
cent stamp, why couldn't he just say, "Aw forget it. Just
go on through..."

I rode through an *excellent* rain storm in southeast Ohio
that had the cagers slowing to ~45mph. I, in my ignorance,
chose to go 60. Not minimum by any stretch of the imagination
but still impressive considering the conditions. I love
riding through the rain...until it begins to seep through the
inside of my helmet.

After 15,000 to 20,000 miles of riding, I'm beginning to feel
I know what's going on as I'm riding. I mean *know.*

Jon Polito, I've tried to write to you and nothing's come back.
Are you getting my e-mail?

Great weekend! Especially good considering I decided less than
a day before I left that I'd be going. Here's for spontaneity!


Douglas                       Reply to:  gdls!parker@ilium.troy.msen.com
DoD #1961                     BMW #55821                  Renting N56136
From: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Richard Beckett)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Please wear a helmet
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:43:40 GMT
Reply-To: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, UK


	You may already know that it's illegal to not wear a helmet in GB, so
	I've never really ridden without one, but from my experience of 
	riding with my visor open I find it very uncomfortable at anything 
	above 70 mph, especially if it's raining or there's a lot of flies/dust
	about. I don't understand why everybody doesn't wear a helmet.


	Cheers,


		RIK


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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:10:30 GMT


My favorite gear is my helmet, leather jacket, and steel toed boots,
in that order.


Isn't it about time for another steel-toed boot war?

--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: I want 2B DoD #1428
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:42:39 GMT

 Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>I would like to be ordained as Do #1428.
                                ^^^
	Hey, whatever floats yer boat.  "I hereby appoint you Do number
1428."  Would you like a DoD number to go with that?  How about a hot
apple pie?

>Keeper of the List, Hear my prayers.

	The KoTL doesn't take prayers, only e-mail.  Sorry about that, but
those are the breaks.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >

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From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: My views of the RCR
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:41:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.155525.28767@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, wsh8z@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (William Scott Heyman) writes...
>andersen@me.udel.edu  writes:
>> I also got stung by a bee on Sunday up at the waterfall
>> after everyone left...  :-(
>> 
>> Steve
> 
>Has anyone ever been stung by a bee or other stinging bug while riding?
>I've been stung twice while riding and bot at >55mph. I didn't think
>bees were smart enough to aim at an object going that fast.
	Several times (including once on the track when the only exposed skin
was my neck -- that's where he got me!).  The problem is that bees can't travel
as fast as a bike, and they don't look in their rear-vision mirrors often.  So
they don't see you coming, you don't see them, and in the ensuing rear-ender
he (it?) dies but not before the impact of the collision forces venom out
of the sting into whatever impacted it (in my case, the Adam's apple :-().

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:27:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Jul21.182727.1049
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <sallyg.61@oregon.uoregon.edu> sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.195146.12030@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>
>>Gee, I kinda wanted an 883 Sporty, Spousal Unit willing. I 'spoze this
>>means I can't post to rec.motorcycles.harley, providing the vote passes.
...
>
>A Harley, is a Harley, is a Harley!  You will be more than welcome!!!
>
>Sal


Even the horizontal single Italian type Harleys?  I know a guy
who keeps his running just to go to the local rides and piss off
the regional HOG chapter... :')
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: delilah@next03epsl.wam.umd.edu (Mere words can't convey the real me)
Subject: Re: Speeding, a survey
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:18:09 GMT

> (As an aside, this is why it's typically difficult for Joe Speed Phreak  
to
>  fuel his supercharged 'Cuda at the local airport - unless the FBO has
>  the accounting mechanisms in place to distinguish between aviation and
>  highway fuel, it may be illegal for them to dispense gas into anything
>  but an aircraft.)
> --
not to mention the fact that it wouldn't be such a good idea; propeller  
craft use MUCH higher octane fuel than ground vehicles, and jets use much  
LOWER; in fact, jet fuel is cruder than diesel, because the jet engine  
(unlike the prop' engine) doesn't work by driving a piston...

-D-
(i know a little bit about a LOT of trivial subjects...)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:26:10 EDT
From: Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: I DoD #1428

Is that as hottttt as it get in here. I felt more heat the day I dumped
my bike and slide 200 yards across the Mason-Dixon Line on Rt. 83.

Sheild efficiency at 97%, assuming attack posture.

Michael B. Smith
1987 Honda Magna
Formerly Do #1428


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From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Subject: Re: Nicest Interstate
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:15:49 GMT

In article <4609@balrog.ctron.com> tavares@ctron.com writes:
>: In article <1992Jul23.195051.15866@isc-br.isc-br.com> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com 
>: (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>The BRP wins hands down, but then that isnt really an Interstate.
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It crosses the North Carolina/Virginia border (as we all saw the painted line),
does that not qualify?

Jim Bessette
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Justice!
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:00:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.054917.26421@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.224848.11042@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson) writes:
>>Finally some justice for stupid cagers!!  I was in traffic court
>>this morning and one of the cases before me was a cager stopped
>>for curling her hair on the way to work!  She tried to argue
>>she was only using one hand and no different that a car phone,
>
>Bad defense.  I thought it was also illegal to hold a car phone while
>the car is in motion (aren't you supposed to park before using them?)

Unless there is specifically a law prohibiting driving hands-off, the best
defense would have been a demonstration of competence to avoid hazards and
drive safely while curling one's hair.

How do you curl your hair in a car anyhow?  12V curling iron?
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Bike Financing Advice Sought.
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:52:09 GMT
	<1992Jul31.003553.28019@microsoft.com>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames

"patlo" == Pat Loughery <patlo@microsoft.com> writes:

patlo> In article <5244@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu wrote:
patlo> The interest rate will be higher on an unsecured loan (the
patlo> bank's way of making sure it makes money on the deal, even if
patlo> you default).  An unsecured loan will be tougher to get if your
patlo> credit rating is damaged.


All the credit unions I've dealt with so far consider a used
motorcycle to be in the "unsecured loan" class.  Hell, Golden Bay (the
federal credit union on base) gives %12.1 on new motos with %20.
That's comparable to BMW...

I'm lusting after an R100R, so I've been checking these things out
lately... :-)
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '91 CB750, DoD# 0378
You know things are bad when your MTBF is shorter than the time needed to
boot the system...
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From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 15:38:00 GMT

I have never seen a one brand dealer except for 2 HD
dealers, Charlies Harleys in Dover NJ and Schlott HD
just outside of Stroudsburg PA. Every other one has
been a multiple. HD/Yamaha seems popular while Honda/
suziki seems second while Slegers in Dover NJ sells
BMW/Yamaha/Honda (he used to sell Triumph/bultaco/greeves/
Hodaka/Hodaka/BSA/Husquvarna in the 60's).
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I DONT CARE IF I SOUND CONFUSED, I KNOW WHAT I MEAN !!!
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:25428 ba.market.misc:5652
From: OBSKUR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.market.misc
Subject: Wanted parts for a 500 triple
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:25:59 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
distributions: BA

I'm looking for someone who's parting out a triple or a catalog that

specializes on older bikes.  Rear sets, one seaters or whatever is out

there, that's in decent shape.


Thanks.
From: jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: When to change oil?
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:32:39 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Jul24.155002.5877@visus.com> Jer@visus.com writes:
>OK, here's a question for ya'...I recently bought an '82 Honda Nighthawk  
>450....it had 2300 miles on it....when I got it, the first thing I did was  
>change the oil...now it's 1 1/2 months later, and it has 4100 miles on  
>it..should I change the oil now, seeing as how it's almost 2000 miles?.if so,  
>then this could become a nusance (i.e. changing oil every month)...but I  

  Yep.  Ain't life a bitch?

  I change my oil every 1500-2000 miles.  As I look at it, spending 30 minutes
  to do the deed every 3 weeks or so is hardly a nuisance.

>suppose its better than changing engines every year....or should I change the  
>oil every few months.... your help would be greatly appriciated, as would any  
>more clues as to how to obtain a DOD number....

  OK. Step one, get yourself a nomex suit.  Step two, grab your ankles ... 
  this will only hurt a little ...

  Patience Grasshopper, patience.  Check out the FAQ.


--
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|Jeff Earls  jearls@tekig6.pen.tek.com | DoD #0530  KotTG  WMTC #0002  SF3.67 |
|'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon -------+ "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo |
|'86 VF500F - Anti-Christ              |                                      |
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Venison for Ride and Feed
Date: 22 Jul 1992 19:17:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 22126@linus.mitre.org, cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.155247.21936@linus.mitre.org> cgates@mitre.org (Curt Gates) writes:
>>
>>  Now take those DOD riders heading to North Carolina... I heard 
>>  Ed Green......
>>Warden: Shut up about Ed and Dean. Now eat! You signed the paper, remember?
>>
>Uh oh Ed, I think we got us a security leak...

The official menu is BBQ chicken.  That means we should be able to
substitute frog, 'gator, snake, turtle, 'possum, armadillo, skunk, or
poodle at will.  If you hit anything kosher on the way in, bungie it
on, and we'll just burn it so bad nobody'll know...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

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