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From: frankc@tgf.tc.faa.gov (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.makers.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: MIDI cards
Date: 6 Jan 1993 15:04:39 GMT
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wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:

>In article <Jan05.224636.36025@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller) writes:
>>The best advice I can give you would be to go for a MPU401 
>>compatible.  This way you won't be limited when it comes to support (many
>>shareware/freeware MIDI sw supports nly the MPU 401 standard)

>What is "MPU 401" compatability?
>MIDI is a serial data transfer of 31.5 kbaud.  What "magic" does an MPU
>401 card do? Does it have a buffer? Does it have intelligence?  Has
>anyone ever programmed it at a low level?  How many registers does it have?


MPU-401 compatibility refers to compliance with Roland's MPU-401 MIDI 
interface implementation which has become the defacto standard.

Functions a card provides include 
	buffering data recieved from both MIDI-in and the PC, essentially
	speed matching the PC with MIDI

	Filtering MID-in messages

	clocking and time stamping tasks (MIDI cards have their own
	high resolution clock)

	MIDI-in to MIDI-out transfer (MIDI-thru) with filtering

For more info, I recomend the Music Quest Interface Technical Reference,
from which this response was paraphrased.


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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
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Subject: Re: Apple SCSI Midi
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:28:00 +0000

>Personally, I'd rather see some industrious person write some system
>software so that a serial port switcher (or NuBus serial card) will
>switch to the right port on a per-application basis.

I don't see how this is much use, since these days you want to be able to
run MIDI applications concurrently, so at least one is going to be in the
background.

The best solution IMHO is a MIDI Manager and/or OMS driver.

                      Nick Rothwell  |  "Say, how many contemporary dancers
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |     are there in this bar?"
        cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |  "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: dmcnamar@netcom.com (Dennis McMamara)
Subject: Re: just-tuned synth
Organization: Composer's WorkBench
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:44:02 GMT

In article <IANI.93Jan7124703@gate.ai.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp> iani@ai.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Zannos Iannis) writes:
>
>>>I haven't tried it yet, but it should be reasonable easy to do a software
>>>keyboard split, with each split having its own MIDI program. Would this
>>>be of interest to many people?
>
>It would be interesting to me at least.  It is a natural extension to
>the software-tuning idea, and it would have many applications, as you
>can give notes individual expression, make them sensitive to other
>notes, control ornaments or accompaniment figures as "macros".  It
>sounds like a very good idea for extending the keyboards capacities by
>computers.   Could also be applied to a piano with MIDI interface, for
>"prepared piano" in a new way.   Sounds promising. 
>
>2. Given that the modulating command cannot be sent simultaneously
>with the note-on command, how well does the synthesizer respond to the
>modulation?  (From your description I gather that there are no
>problems like bent notes or "glitches", or unevennes of volume, but I
>have experienced such problems on an EMU Proteus).
>
>Ioannis Zannos  (iani@ai.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp)

OK, I'm using a 286 PC clone, 12 MHZ, a MPU401 MIDI board, and a 
Yamaha PSS-680 synth. Again, I'm no keyboardist, but pressing ten keys
simultaneously, and running fast scales
I can't hear any ripple effect or bent notes or uneveness of volume
or delay.

I need to have other people try it on their setups, though. If you would
be interested in seeing if it works for you, please email me. Please
understand that it is not ready for anything but beta test distribution,
so your willingness to be patient and to give feedback both positive and
negative is requested.
Dennis McNamara dmcnamar@netcom.com
(415) 752-2073 voice in San Francisco, Ca., U.S

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From: heritier@delta4.frec.bull.fr (Franck HERITIER)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: ___ Please answer ___
Keywords: Moog, Quantization, MIDI, MPU-401, M-ROS
Date: 5 Jan 93 08:37:34 GMT
Reply-To: heritier@delta4.frec.bull.fr (Franck HERITIER)

I have some (difficult for me) questions about music in general :

-1- One of the first modular synthetizer is named MOOG. Where does its
name come from ?

-2- Quantization is a functionnality of a sequensor. Could you describe
this function ?

-3- Time Code SMPTE : What does it mean ?

-4- Was MPU-401 standard created by Roland ?

-5- Do you know M-ROS for Atari ST ? What is the name of the editor ?

Thanx very much for your answers.

Frank.
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Keyboard
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:28:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.113328.2179@midway.uchicago.edu>, lidz@quads.uchicago.edu (adam lidz) writes:
|> I'm looking for a cheap keyboard that does not have any intruments of its own,
|> but that can use the instruments on my Roland Scc-1 card.  I just want it so
|> that I can use it to input notes into my computer without pointing and clickingh(a real pain. . . )
|> 
|> Can anyone suggest a keyboard?  How much do they cost?

Roland has a cheap keyboard designed for use with their computer based
products. Don't remember the price but seem to recall under $200.
Go into a store and talk to a retailer ...
From: law40035@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG CHENG KOON)
Subject: Re: Looking for System Recommendations
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:32:28 GMT

Dear Kevin
suggest u check out Mac & PC prices (should be lower than NeXT). Don't
need top-of-the-line system; a mid-range computer is enough for music.
  also check out the MIDI interfaces & software for the respective
systems; some interface eqpt comes with free software which is good
enough for first-timers to try, before buying more expensive & powerful
sequencing packages.
  besides the computer, the biggest cost comes from the synth.  pianists
should try out the feel of the keyboard - varies from synth to synth.
also, decide beforehand what kinds of sounds you want. don't go shopping
without preparation, cos everything sounds great in the shop.
  then u bring it home and (1) don't know how to work it, or (2) can't
figure what u're gonna do with 128 sounds like 'EarthSwallowsGodzilla'
and 'MoonBreath'.
  very important - read up first: i recommend KEYBOARD magazine,
especially the annual Buyers Guides.
  you can EMail me if u need details
                      Benjamin Ang
From: mark-r@ee.man.ac.uk (Mark Robinson (JO PhD))
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: ___ Envelope, envelope ___
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:09:48 GMT
Reply-To: mark-r@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Mark Robinson (JO PhD))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

In article <7137@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> I wrote:
>In article <747@vercors.frec.bull.fr> heritier@delta4.frec.bull.fr (Franck HERITIER) writes:
>
>Decay: Once the note reaches its maximum volume it enters the
>
[...]
>Sustain: during this phase the volume of the note is held at the
>
[...]
>Decay: This determines the time taken for a note to die away after
>
[...]

Sorry, a minor brain overload caused me to 'invent' the all new
ADSD envelope!!! The second decay phase should of course been the
release phase, that paragraph should have read:

Release: This determines the time taken for a note to die away after
  the key is released. A longer release produces sustained notes,
  and 'Sustain' buttons usually increase this time constant,
  although some seem to just increase the sustain level. On
  monophonic machines a long release time would result in one note
  cutting off abruptly when another one started, because there's only
  one VCO, and it can't do do jobs at once.
  If the key is released during the attack or decay phase, then
  the release phase is entered early.

Sorry once more
Mark
mark-r@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood)
Subject: Re: Question: SB .VOC files for samples in MODsdir
Reply-To: sts@mfltd.co.uk
Organization: Micro Focus Ltd, Newbury, England
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:25:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.101425.9653@iscsvax.uni.edu>, gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
|> In article <1i88alINNt99@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, br326@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Raphael Pungin) writes:
|> > 
|> > In a previous article, dessel@remus.rutgers.edu (Metaphysical Wonder) says:
|> > 
|> >>Does ANYONE know how to use Soundblaster Pro .VOC files as samples in MOD files that I create using like ModEdit?
|> >>
|> >>If not, does anyone know an efficient way to convert the .VOC files to the Amiga (?) format required of a MOD sample?
|> >>
|> >>
|> >>Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
|> >>
|> >>		-- Jason Dessel
|> >>
|> >>Please mail responses (as opposed to posting here) to:
|> >>
|> >>			dessel@remus.rutgers.edu  or dessel@gandalf.rutgers.edu
|> >>
|> >>Thanks again!
|> >>
|> > 
|> > Please post to the net as well as to the author above. Looks like question
|> > of general interest.
|> > -- 
|> OK I will,
|>    I (when I used to make MODS) would use a program called SCOPTRAX to convert
|> VOCs to Amiga files.  Just sample you VOC, edit it as necessary, load it into
|> SCOPTRAX, amigafy it and save it as a RAW file with a SAM extention.  It will
|> then be ready to be used in MODEDIT.  Good luck.
|> 
|> RObert Williams

There is a Voc to sam converter.  I am not sure where I have seen it, it
maybe in cs.uwp.edu

Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: Apple SCSI Midi
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 02:39:43 GMT


In article <1993Jan8.020748.21340@qucis.queensu.ca>, driesse@qucis.queensu.ca (Anthonie Driesse) writes:
|> As a Powerbook 170 owner and MIDI user my curiosity was stimulated
|> at the sight of an ad for a multi-media unit containing a CD-ROM, and MIDI
|> port that connects to the SCSI port of any Macintosh computer.
|> Could this be the ultimate solution for my MIDI woes???

It sounds wonderful, for some folks.  For me, it would be a waste,
since I already have a 300KB/sec CD-ROM.  Still, a MIDI port on
something other than a builtin serial port (SCSI, LocalTalk, ADB, or a
NuBus serial port) would be wonderful for those of us with more
peripherals than ports.

If it's a SCSI unit, I would have to assume one of the following:

	1. The MIDI port could be input-only and operate the internal
	   synthesizer.

	2. The MIDI port talks a special protocol that requires
	   special software (a la the wonderful world of DOS ;-).

	3. The MIDI port driver "emulates" a builtin serial port.

	4. The MIDI port driver has a MIDI Manager driver so that
	   it can talk to standard applications.

If it's #4, then it's fine for me.  If it's #3, then it's fine for
some people, but not me.  If it's #1 or #2, I hope they go out of
business before they screw up Mac MIDI for everyone.

Personally, I'd rather see some industrious person write some system
software so that a serial port switcher (or NuBus serial card) will
switch to the right port on a per-application basis.  (Maybe they
can apply the same technology to screen depth-switching.)

Better yet, I'd like to see a NuBus serial card with a MIDI Manager
driver so I can just run my MIDI on that card.  I'd pay $200 for
such a setup right now.

As it stands, I'll just keep manually switching my modem and printer
port.

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...(408)944-4073
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From: james@astro.as.utexas.edu (James McCartney)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: just-tuned synth
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:49:22 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin


  In the interest of splitting hairs, one line in my table should read:

ratio   cents           72 equal        error
3/2     701.96          700.00          -1.96

instead of :

3/2     702.00          700.00          -2.00

  --- james mccartney
From: u912078@daimi.aau.dk (S|ren Erland Vest|)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: VOC-files. Ftp-site?
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:15:37 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

Hi All,

Have anyone got a ftp-site address for voc-files. I have looked around, but 
can't seem to find any.

Please email me,

Soeren E.

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From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Casey Kasem wrote and boy is he pissed...
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:04:56 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1993Jan12.010621.9777@iscsvax.uni.edu> gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
*
*   Well, what do you guys think?  I know this subject is rather old (the U2
*thing) but how many other bands\people are going to get into it over this. 
*Anybody out there have any personal experiences close to this?  I wrote because
*I am a Negativland fan and I didn't want to see them get nailed, but also
*beacause I make music and sample things quite often, or as often as a person
*can with a TX16W.    Food for thought during strange days..
*

There's a lot of issues involved with the "U2" release from Negativland,
and I'm afraid that as the law is currently written they were very much
in the wrong.  Their use of samples on the disk goes well beyond the
"fair use" doctrine under copyright law.  The fact of the matter is that
there exists a mechanism under which you can legally obtain such material,
and it was not pursued.  One may argue that U2 have no sense of humor 
(which was obvious long before the Negativland case), but its still no
excuse.  Heck, if they had wanted to, they could have done an impersonation
of Bono (where'd he get that name, anyway?) for the backing track, and
it might have been okay, as long as they paid the appropriate song royalties.

As for Casey Kasem, he never held copyright on the material that was used.
He could try to sue for defamation of character, but its unlikely he would
prevail in court.

As for the overall issue of sampling, perhaps performance rights organizations
(eg, ASCAP/BMI) can point the way.  After all, the system seems to work for
distributing royalties in other forms.  Perhaps one day "sampling" royalties
will become a standard part of recording/publishing contracts.  In the 
meantime, if you want to be completely safe, you should only sample found
sounds, and public domain works.

PS: I'm not a lawyer but my brother is ;-).


                    Archer Sully      archer@sgi.com

        You are a good man, but you are in the wrong place and
        you are going to die a horrible death.
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: Re: Sampling laws? Re: Casey Kasem wrote and boy is he pissed...
    <1993Jan12.160602.9540@newsgate.sps.mot.com> 
    <16B54D280.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo / Object Technology International
    19:58:06 GMT
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:07:52 GMT
X-Bytes: 1109

In article <16B54D280.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:

 >I agree. However I make my own music, and I sample too!:)
 >My sampling is mainly limited to spoken words or noises, from television
 >or movies. I don't feel comfortable sampling music other than single notes
 >or a single drum beat (like the kinds found in any Casio organ or in

I heard somewhere that you can use up to 8 notes of a song without
breaching the copyright.  Truth?  Fiction?  Fantasy?

As for sampling, I am inclined to think that sampling and using for
commercial gain something that is recognizably from a particular
artist/performer/whatever without their permission is wrong.  That
covers things like Clint's voice (BTW, my dad sounds just like him so
I don't have that problem.  I just have to get him to stop calling me
"punk"), chunks of performances (of any kind), ...  Note that this is
as a minimum.  It is not clear that you must be able to identify the
source of the performance but if you can I don't think there is much
question.


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From: heritier@delta4.frec.bull.fr (Franck HERITIER)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: ___ Envelope, envelope ___
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:36:44 GMT
Reply-To: heritier@delta4.frec.bull.fr (Franck HERITIER)

Yet an other question, about dynamic variation of a sound.
I'd like to know how are named the diferent phases of the envelope
of a sound (or a wave in general). I know some terms like attack, 
sustain, duration, tempo, release, delay, decay, reverberation...
Thanks to help me, and please apolozige for my poor english (I'm
just a poor French man).

Frank.
From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Casey Kasem wrote and boy is he pissed...
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:05:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1993Jan12.160602.9540@newsgate.sps.mot.com> birkelan@atelm.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland) writes:

*Seems to me that Mr. Kasem is 100% in the right on this one.
*
*Irrespective of the legal issue, I have always felt that real
*musicians make their own music, rather than steal it from others.
*

Then don't call them musicians.  Like any other art form, sample based
compositions are 99% crap.  That doesn't make it any less valid.


                    Archer Sully      archer@sgi.com

        You are a good man, but you are in the wrong place and
        you are going to die a horrible death.
                        - A Chinese Ghost Story
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From: sahr@piglet.uccs.edu (Kevin Sahr)
Newsgroups: comp.music,alt.emusic,bit.listserv.emusic-l
Subject: Looking for System Recommendations
Date: 10 Jan 1993 02:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: piglet.uccs.edu

I'm sure this sort of question has been asked here before; but
I'm new to this list so please excuse me....

A friend of mine is a pianist interested in experimenting
with electronic music. He has about $3,000 to spend for a
complete system (computer, software, keyboard, interface
boards, etc.). Does anyone have any recommendations on what
he should/should not purchase?

And since I'm asking novice questions, is there a faq for
this list?

Thanks

Kevin Sahr
sahr@piglet.uccs.edu
CAE-Link Corp.
From: drew@tcom.stc.co.uk (Drew Wagar)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Computer Music
Date: 8 Jan 1993 11:43:33 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd., Oakleigh Road South, New Southgate, London, N11 1HB
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs240.bnr.co.uk

Hello there,

	Sorry if this question is in the wrong newsgroup, but here goes.

I'm looking to produce some simple music from a computer perhaps up to
four tracks simultaniously and I need a cheapish computer to do it on.

I've been looking at

The Atari ST
The Amiga A500
A PC with a sound card (any recommendations? I have 286 laptop PC.)

I am on a budget of about 300 pounds (sterling) ($500?)
Midi would be nice as an option, not essential
Software capable of displaying staves on screen ideal.

Any one recommend what sort of set up would be best?

Thanks a lot,

Drew.


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From: mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu ( Eat Me.)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Keyboard
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:55:29 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

lidz@quads.uchicago.edu (adam lidz) writes:
> I'm looking for a cheap keyboard that does not have any intruments of its own,
> but that can use the instruments on my Roland Scc-1 card.  I just want it so
> that I can use it to input notes into my computer without pointing and clickingh(a real pain. . . )
> 
> Can anyone suggest a keyboard?  How much do they cost?


	Looks like you want about the same setup I got Saturday. I bought a
Novation mm10 (I think that's what it is). It has only 2 octaves, pitch bend,
modulation and touch sensitive keys. Using the 2 of the buttons, you can move
the 2 octaves down, so you can really access 8 octaves. What I'm trying to
say is, the range of the keyboard is 8 octaves, but there are only 2 octaves 
of keys. It real small, runs on batteries (power supply is extra), has a 
midi out, and a few other non-midi ports. I've had NO problems using it
with the SCC-1 under Cakewalk. The only problem is if you have actual talent,
(Which I don't), 2 octaves of keys is pretty limited. It's mostly used for
inputing notes, not playing. But, since I can't play the piano anyway, I've
had NO problems getting it to do what I want to do.

	It coast around $180.00 which is a little more than I wanted to pay,
but it's worked out real well.


mike
mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: ucsd archives
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Distribution: comp.music
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:39:21 GMT

greetings,

could some kind soul out there send me the internet address of the
ucsd ftp archives.

thanks,

james