From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: Bib necro
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:59:16 GMT

Laurie E. W. Brandt (Pegasus) (JBrandt@AAA.Uoregon.edu) wrote:
: I have a suspicion that we will find that the dreaded necronomicron is
: nothing more than the Arabic translation of the _History of Babylon_ of
: Berosus, the Chaldean who was a priest of Bel in 250 b. c.  this book
: contained a treaties on astrology, astromy and Babylonian cosmology.  In
: the ninth century there was a fervent attempt amongst the Arab
: intellectuals to preserve what was left of the Greek intellectual
: tradition.  This was accomplished by a massive amounts of translations from
: the Greek to Arabic.  This is why we have the works of Plato and Socrates
: and other Greek thinkers and scholars.  I propose that Al Hazered was of
: this tradition.  That he found a copy of Berosus's _History of Babylon_ in
: one of the abandoned towns that dot the empty quarter, and translated out
: of Greek, because the cuneiform and other writing strategies of the ancient
: world outside of Greek, Latin, and Hebrew were not translatable at that
: time.
:     Is there any one out there with acess to: 
: Berosus, the Chaldean._ The Babyloniaca of Berossus _  [edited and
: translated] by Stanley Mayer Burstein.
:   Edition: 2nd print. with minor corrections.
:    Publication Info: Malibu : Undena Publications, 1978 (1980 printing)
:       LC Call Number: DS73.2 .B4713 1980 
: and
: Ibn Khallikan, 1211-1282.
: _Ibn Khallikan's biographical dictionary_ Translated from the Arabic by Bn.
: Mac Guckin de Slane.  Publication Info: Beirut, Librairie du Liban, 1970.
:        LC Call Number: DS38.4.A2 I2613 1970
: This book has the only known biography of Al Hazred, the proported author
: of the translation of the Necro.
: If your library has a copy could you post the entry on this ninth century
: Yemeni Poet?
: This citation I suspect will lay to rest many of the current speculations
: about this works existance or not.
:     I hope that some serious research and will promote a schollary
: discussion and not into the whine fest that some people took up so much
: time with, last time, if you don't like the ducussion you don't have to
: read it.  As requested I am reposting the bibliography that I was requested
: to re post.  To those who are interested in the religion/magick, of the
: region of the world called Mesopotamia.
:     I find it interesting that H. P. Lovecrafts stories are based on
: translations of texts that were being made available through various
: channels for scholars into the study of the middle east and the
: translations from Hittite, Assyrian and Babylonian.  Also the few texts I
: have read do not do one important thing at no time to they over lap in
: wording or anything else.
:      It is my firm belief that if you are going to practice a cultures
: magick then you better know everything you can about how that culture's
: world view.
:      This bibliography I have tryed to give an overview of the topic as is
: has developed today.  I have limited this bibliography to works in English
: only.  I just skimmed the surface of what is available in these studies.  I
: am using the conventions for creating a bibliography set out in Kate L.
: Turabian, book .A Manual for Writers of Term Papers, Theses, and
: Dissertations.  The University of Chicago Press 1982.

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