From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: The Khomeini Regime's Terror and the Mentality of it Supporters
Summary:  Actually, article is good indication of Saeid's mentality
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 14:24:42 GMT

In article <saied.702937159@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:

>I found the following article last night. It was posted to
>s.c.i sometime ago.
>
>I do not know who the author is, but the article is valuable.
>It describes the mentality of the Khomeini regime's followers.
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>	The truth is, this is nothing in comparison with what the government
>has done inside the country. Torture, execution, mass murders, suppression
>and humiliation is what Behnam Sadeghi-ha are supporting. What kind of an
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>experience has that been for the people of Iran? Let us see:

For the record:  I don't support torture.  I support execution for
some crimes.  I support "suppression and humiliation" of *some*
people (e.g. criminals).  But it wouldn't be correct to say that I support
"suppression and humiliation" in general.

>Religious minorities: 
>Baha-is where the main victims, many executed for being Baha-is (an
>unrecognized religion by Islam), only. (It is pitiful to argue about 
>the number of Baha-is executed and not addressing the fact that why
>should any Bahais be executed, even if it was only one person; the act 
>is condemned!)

I don't support unfair discrimination against anybody due to his or
her religion, this includes Bahais who are unfairly discriminated 
against.

I understand a total of 200 Bahais were executed in Iran in the early
eighties.  I am not in a position to know what the cause of the executions
were.  The Bahais say all of them were killed only because of their 
religion.  The government says all of them were killed because of spying
for Israel and other treasonous activities.  I don't know.

>National minorities: 
>One of the first actions of the government was to attack
>Kurdistan because of their sovereignty demands. The results were brutal murder
>of defenceless Kurdish men and women. Many women had had their breasts cut 
>off before they were killed! 

I already replied to this in great detail.  I  cited sources that are
sympathetic to Kurdish separatists and proved one more time the already
well-known fact that it was the Komeleh and KDP who first acted militarily
and took military control of Kurdistan.  This fact is acknowledged by
these organizations themselves.  Naturally,  the government reacted
by suppressing these groups.

The comment "women had their breasts cut off before they were killed"
belongs to National Enquirer, not this newsgroup.

>The legalization of polygamy, forced veiling, encouraging prostitution by
>performing the act of 'Seegheh' among women who lost their husbands in the war
>and men who came back from the war, 

I have already replied to the above and don't want to reply again.  But
I can't resist the following:

>raping women in prisons before executing 
>them ...
>(in these Islamic rapes, the torturers perform 'Seegheh' before 
>executing their victims),

This was argued in soc.culture.iranian in great, great detail.  I have
the postings available now.   It was proven beyond any shaddow of
doubt that there is *not* *a* *shred* of *evidence* for the above allegation.
The only "evidence" cited went like this:  "You know, I knew this
person who told me that he knew somebody who ...."  Furthermore,
not a single human rights organization supports the above claim, e.g.
Amnesty International says that it was not able to substantiate
the above rumor.

Now, Saeid has posted this article again.  If he has been able
to come up with any new evidence in favor of the above absurd claim,
I am sure net readers would be interested to see it.  (But please don't 
give me another "I heard from my uncle that..."   Such statements are 
classified has hearsay, not evidence.)

> killing 9 year old girls (and of course raping 
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>them before the executions) ; this was justified by the fact that a high 
>ranking clergy had said that a 9 year old girl is as mature as a 40 year 
>old man! and it goes on and on and on.

This was argued to death, too.  Indeed, a high ranking clergyman said
that individuals who carry out the terrorist bombings could be executed
even if they are 9 year old females.  But no 9 year old female
ever carried out such an attack and no 9 year old was executed.  

No human rights organization has even claimed that any 9 year old person
was executed in Iran.  Nobody on the net provided any evidence for the
above absurd claim either.

Therefore, the claim in the article re-posted by Saeid to the effect
that 9 year olds were executed can be safely classified as a lie.

Now, if Saeid has any evidence for the absurd claim, I am sure net readers
like me would be interested in seeing it.

>    [Long list of nonsense typical of the above deleted]
>
>	Behnam sadeghi-ha can pretend these are all lies, these things never
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Why should it matter if I think these claims are lies if you yourself
don't bother to support them with evidence?

Behnam Sadeghi