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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: roy NL
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 19:26:35 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

I thought I'd read that Sanders was on the DL, but last week's McWeekly showed
him playing actively.  If he is active, disregard that comment, but he is
injury prone...

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) *  kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
Keeper of the R.S.BB FAQ, and Junior Stathead {tm} * OK, so I AM the AntiChrist.
Be kind...don't disillusion the RBI-lovers. * Net.Agent, "Doublin" David Rossing
Less widely published as Noel Steere; less likely to rampage than Gary Huckabay.
From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Ugliest Man in Baseball??
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:34:05 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Btyz4L.BMz@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> pfferrei@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Ferreira) writes:
>>
>>Heather
>>HHENDERSON@vax.clarku.edu
>
>Jose Oquendo is pretty bad, as is Willie McGee.
>

Now as much as I like a good insult as next guy, is this really appropriate
subject matter for a forum dedicated to serious baseball talk?  

I mean what's next, ugliest rec.sport.baseball poster?  Or perhaps we can 
discuss which r.s.b regular has the largest breasts (male or female) which
has the smallest penis...

OH COME ON!  I'm joking!  You people don't know ugly until you meet  Mike
LaValliere in person!  Short, fat and ugly to boot!

PSG
From: alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: Positioning of netters in hypothetical baseball games.
Keywords: Dove Bar, Hrbek, Yummy, Fielder's Choice=Pizza.
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:35:58 GMT

Valentine,

Don't worry about being the catcher on this grand team.  I caught in real life
for 10 years (as a kid) and man are my knees shot now!!  All you have to do is sit behind a computer--no strain on the knees!!

BTW if you need a backup, I'm still the prototypical catcher--5'8", 235, very
wide body...  :)

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu

Geez, is it September already??!?



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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Amazing Walk Total
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:31:58 CDT


In article <1992Sep9.182541.20103@news.iastate.edu>, sckelm@iastate.edu (Steven C Kelm) writes:
> This is one of the most amazing things I've seen this year.
> 
> Randy Johnson   172 innings ..... 124 BB !!!
> 
> Good grief - is this close to some kind of record for a season?

Don't know, but...

Earlier this year Bobby Witt pitched his 1000th inning.  He became the
first pitcher to go 1000 innings while averaging over 5 walks/9 innings.
Only two pitchers in history had averaged more than 4 walks/9.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Re: rotisserie:  free agents
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:30:23 GMT

	Well, this is how my league of seven teams works it.

	" A team consists of 28 persons (17 fielders and 11 pitchers) selected on draft day.  Each team is required to keep all of the players the entire season regardless of performance except for:
			1.) a player is sent to the minors
			2.) a player is placed on the disabled list.
			3>) a player is traded to the American League
	Now here's the catch: you are strictly prohibited from having anyone on your roster that you have dropped from your roster anytime after the draft."

	What this does is discourages someone from dropping an injured player, becuase you cannot sign/trade for that player for the rest of the season.  Therefore, most of us have waited out the pleantiful injuries.  Also, picking up the player of the week isnt advisable, as we know that were stuck with that person for the rest of the season, unless they get injured....

	For example, someone picked up Jim Bullinger after he already had 6 saves, and hes -still- paying for it.  I picked up Scott Bankhead at the All-star break, and hes been nothing but a headache.

	So this system we devised discourages arbitrary drops and arbitrary signings.  It works ok.
	
	BTW: in case of more than one person claiming a person in any stat period, the person lower in the standings gets him....

					Jeremy

-- 
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Subject: Re: SF Minor league pitchers
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 5 Sep 92 12:11:43 MST
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <1992Sep5.075020.9380@leland.Stanford.EDU>, claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <Bu3CJK.JLJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
>>	Can anyone in Frisco area (or ANYONE with pertinent info not contained
>>in Baseball Weekly) tell me if SF plans to bring up any or all of the following:
>>
>>1)  Rick Huismann
>>2)  Salomon Torres
>>3)  Kevin Rogers.
> 
> Rogers started tonight.  I don't think Huismann and Torres have been brought
> up yet.

If I recall right, Huismann was being used in Phoenix and Shreveport as a
closer, and his stats were relatively good there.  Maybe he'll be a middle
reliever/spot closer for SF in 93.  (If Roger Craig uses him as a starter,
I guarantee he'll suck. :-)

Don't know about Torres or Rogers.

Larry Carter is a non-prospect.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."
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From: lost@athena.mit.edu (Robbie Smith)
Subject: Re: rotisserie:  free agents
Organization: An administrative and functional structure.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:01:13 GMT

I just wanted to make an observation.  The original poster on this topic
indicated that he felt that allowing free agent trasactions after every
injury or demotion led to too many trasactions.  He asked for
information regarding how these transactions might be limited.

The followups to the post have almost unversially described a variety of
schemes that different leagues use to control free agents, but all of
these schemes are *more* liberal than the original.  We, as a group,
have not addressed the original intent, which is the limitation of
superfluous moves.

I think that moves in response to demotions and injuries are justified.
The most important feature of your league is that the player pool be
roughly equivilant in quality to the major league rosters.  The free
agent pool will therefore be sufficiently depleated that it is unlikely
that frequent trasactions benefit the team which receives many injuries.


--
Robbie Smith:  lost@mit.edu
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From: crichard@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (richardson craig s - CS500)
Subject: Re: Running a league
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 23:15:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.223103.9680@news.vanderbilt.edu> LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu writes:
>A fantasy league around here went to an unusual set of rules: week-long
>head-to-head games, based on comparisons of the traditional 8 categories.

A league I belong to (e-mail, primarily BITNET) and a spin-off league that I
started (using the same rules) have been using this system (albeit not with
the traditional categories - using RP rather than RBI), have been using this
system since 1990.

>One word of advice: DON'T.  Unless you like such anomalies as one division
>being led most of the year by the 3rd-worst team in the league.

Your mileage may vary, of course.  The prevailing opinion in these two leagues
is that it provides a refreshing change, with the competition being more 
direct and "personal" in a way.  This is my opinion...

And I see such things as adding spice, rather than being "anomalies".  Like
the '69 Mets...

--Craig

-- 
These remarkable insights were brought to you from the fertile imagination of:
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From: schwartzman@envnet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Gene Schwartzman)
Subject: Re: rotisserie:  free agents
Originator: asdfjkl@rac2.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:28:00 GMT

In article <Bu6KHy.Ez0@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
>In article <88069@netnews.upenn.edu>, blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Icarus P. Anybody) writes...
>>I'm running a rotisserie-style league now, in which the participants cannot
>>drop players from their rosters and acquire free agents at will, only when
>>one of their players is injured.  This seems kinda wack, and has lead to a
>>whole bunch of trades involving injured players, so free agents could be
>>acquired.
>	
>	The system my league has:
>
>	We have free agent pickups (but they're not only for injury, just
>for any reason), but you MUST keep that person for the _rest of the year_.
>	This makes people think twice about pickup up free agents....	
>> 
>>		- blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>
>
>	
>Jonny B.

In a league I run, we're allowed to pick unlimited for injuries, but if you 
want to grab a player just because one of your's sucks, then you can do it
only 5 times in the course of the season, after that you got what you got..

Gene
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Running a league
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:31:03 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

A fantasy league around here went to an unusual set of rules: week-long
head-to-head games, based on comparisons of the traditional 8 categories.

One word of advice: DON'T.  Unless you like such anomalies as one division
being led most of the year by the 3rd-worst team in the league.
From: blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Icarus P. Anybody)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: rotisserie:  free agents
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:07:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'm running a rotisserie-style league now, in which the participants cannot
drop players from their rosters and acquire free agents at will, only when
one of their players is injured.  This seems kinda wack, and has lead to a
whole bunch of trades involving injured players, so free agents could be
acquired.

We'd like to change this for next season, but also want to avoid an excessive
number of transactions, with participants picking up the player-o-the-week
(can you say Darnell Coles?), and then dropping him almost right away.  Any
suggestions?  Any other successfull models out there?  Any advice appreciated.

		- blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

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From: king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King)
Subject: Re: rotisserie:  free agents
Organization: GTE/SCSD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:23:30 GMT

In our league we are allowed to drop 5 players during the year because
of their poor performances.  3 of the 5 are done before the all-star
break and 2 after.  The cost is steep, 10 dollars apiece.  Injury
pickups and players sent to the minors are done for free.
 
--
Larry King
GTE Government Systems, Needham, MA    		(617) 455-3384 
E-Mail : king%ssvax.dnet@get.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: SF Minor league pitchers
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 07:50:20 GMT

In article <Bu3CJK.JLJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
>
>	Can anyone in Frisco area (or ANYONE with pertinent info not contained
>in Baseball Weekly) tell me if SF plans to bring up any or all of the following:
>
>1)  Rick Huismann
>2)  Salomon Torres
>3)  Kevin Rogers.

Rogers started tonight.  I don't think Huismann and Torres have been brought
up yet.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
From: James.K.Pinkelman.1@nd.edu (J Pink)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: rotisserie:  free agents
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:41:08 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D100F3D301401E@jpinkelman.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 7 Sep 92 12:52:03 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

In article <88069@netnews.upenn.edu> Icarus P. Anybody,
blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>We'd like to change this for next season, but also want to avoid an
excessive
>number of transactions, with participants picking up the
player-o-the-week
>(can you say Darnell Coles?), and then dropping him almost right away. 
Any
>suggestions?  Any other successfull models out there?  Any advice
appreciated.


We have the normal auction for players at the beginning of the year to
acquire a 23-man team. We then immediately hold a draft where we 
alternate picks untill we've each drafted a 13-man minor league/reserve
team.  When one of the players on your real team gets hurt/sent to minors,
etc. you can bring up one of your players from your minor league team.
You are also allowed a limited number of discretionary call-ups, where you
can replace a player who just stinks or to bring up a hot player on your
minor league team.

Twice during the year, June 1 and Aug 1, where each team can drop up to
5 players and draft new players.  This allows the unknown players who
come up during the season to get onto team rosters.

This is the second year we've done this and it works great and is pretty
simple.  A minor league team usually consists of replacement-type players
(Gary Varsho) and a few minor league propects (Carlos Garcia).
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy,rec.sport.baseball
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:18:18 -0400 
From: Josh S Linder <jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Anyone know if these guys are subject to the expansion draft?

Just a note about Tim Worrell - I don't know about how he's doing over
the entire season, but I just read the article about his no-hitter.  If
he's a decent enough player to toss a no-no, I would personally protect
the guy.  I BELIEVE he has played 2-4 years, so he is eligible for the
draft if not protected.  Since you're a Padre fan, I wish Sheffield all
of the luck in the triple crown race, although I am a Fred McGriff fan
personally (in the HR race).
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: rotisserie:  free agents
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:03:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <88069@netnews.upenn.edu> blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Icarus P. Anybody) writes:
>I'm running a rotisserie-style league now, in which the participants cannot
>drop players from their rosters and acquire free agents at will, only when
>one of their players is injured.  This seems kinda wack, and has lead to a
>whole bunch of trades involving injured players, so free agents could be
>acquired.

We have this too, mostly, but have a limited ability to do
a random deal.

It is the "Dump-the-bum", which you get to exercise once
during the season.  The transaction fee is stiff ($25)
and the acquired player's salary is $25.  

I think this is still too restricted, especially since there
are two owners who read the newswires before 6am (Pacific
time) and *always* pick up the hot players for injured
players.  I've been the second claimer on about 7 players
this year (for those who have not seen my trail of tears,
just note that I have now Joe Oliver and Rod Beck as the
only players on my roster who have not been injured or
sent to the minors this season...  but I've climbed out
of last place and will probably overtake the 8th place
team before the end of the season...).

I'd like to propose something like two free waivers
during the season, applicable only when a reserved
player returns.  Thus if Dunston is hurt, and I
picked up Spike Owen, then when Dunston returns, I
can waive Jose Lind and keep Owen.

But it shouldn't be unlimited...

Dave


-- 
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Computer Science & Engineering	C-014		demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet
UC San Diego					...!ucsd!cs!demers
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Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Sun, 06 Sep 92 10:50:05 CST
From:         Mark Kornbluh <C09875D0@wuvmd.wustl.edu>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: SF Minor league pitchers
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.baseball.fantasy

>1)  Rick Huismann
>2)  Salomon Torres
>3)  Kevin Rogers.
Rogers is up. I don't think Torres is eligible for the expansion
draft.  He has not been with the team for 3 years...therefore he
will not get called up this season or they would have to protect him.

Mark Kornbluh.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: wall@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Wall)
Subject: Object lesson in the importance of single transactions
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:50:28 GMT

10-team NL league, straight rules more or less.

In my league three weeks ago the standings were as follows:

Place     team    tot. pts saves  s pts  closer
3rd        A        52       60    10    Charlton/Dibble/Franco
4th        B        47.5     17     3    Gott/ Pena
5th        me       45.5     15     2    McDowell / Walk

We play with a $50 cross-over budget. Team A had $50 (I think), team B $50,
my team had $45 left.

Here are the standings today:

Place     team       tot pts    saves    s pts
3rd        B           51         63       9.5
4th        A           50.5       19        4
5th        me          42.5       15        2

So, what happened? Jeff Reardon crosses over. Team A doesn't bid as far as
I know. Team B bids $50 for Reardon and I bid $43.

Reardon gets two saves and a win. Team B picks up a point differential of
three on me while team A drops half a point. In other words, the difference
between 5th and 3rd was a week of Jeff Reardon. (I also dropped a point and
a half in an offensive category due to a sleepy offense.)

Thought you might find this amusing.

- Matt

"I don't think I want to live in a country where George Bush gets to go to
the all-star game and Cecil Fielder doesn't." - R Rappaport
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: luis polonia????
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:22:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep10.182600.21134@fccc.edu>, ajmiller@orion.fccc.edu writes...
> 
>Hi there,
> 
>   Does anyone know what happened to luis polonia?
> 
> 
>                                 Thanks in advance...
> 
>                                           A.J.

	I wish I knew...I'm in a tie for 1st in steals....

Jonny B.
From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: luis polonia????
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:21:32 PST
Distribution: usa

In article <BuE9DA.7nt@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.182600.21134@fccc.edu>, ajmiller@orion.fccc.edu writes...
>> 
>>Hi there,
>> 
>>   Does anyone know what happened to luis polonia?
>> 

   A minor injury (wrist? maybe hamstring? can't remember- sorry) has held him
 out of the lineup or at DH.

   Personally, I think the mngmt wants to see Easley lead off and others (like
 Curtis, Salmon, Felix, etc) in the lineup for next year.  Luis days as an
 Angel may be ending....

 Mark Pede
From: ajmiller@orion.fccc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: luis polonia????
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:26:00 GMT
Organization: Fox Chase Cancer Center
Originator: operman@orion


Hi there,

   Does anyone know what happened to luis polonia?


                                 Thanks in advance...

                                           A.J.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: Jim Pink <James.K.Pinkelman.1@nd.edu>
Subject: Download Stats for Free ???
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6D395F57601401E@jpinkelman.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 11:52:21 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:41:24 GMT

Does anyone know of a way to download Major League Stats for free?
(i.e. not through Compuserve or some high-priced stat service)

Thanks in advance.

Jim
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: Download Stats for Free ???
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 20:42:03 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep9.164225.24570@news.nd.edu> Jim Pink <James.K.Pinkelman.1@nd.edu> writes:
>Does anyone know of a way to download Major League Stats for free?
>(i.e. not through Compuserve or some high-priced stat service)
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Jim

Why, Jim, you stubborn old penny-pincher, of _course_ there's a way to get up
to the week stats for free!  In fact, just today on r.s.baseball, Donald Hearth
posted MLB stats for 1992 through September 6-7.  And if you missed that, ftp to
wuarchive.wustl.edu and download the stats from the /pub directory.  AND THAT'S
NOT ALL!  Once the kind sysadmins at wuarchive make the sports hierarchy world
writeable (or in any case allow uploads therein), you should be able to find
all sorts of neato stuff there!  Free Agent Lists, Abbott & Costello's "Who's on
First" skit,the List of Bermanisms, and, of course, the same insightful lists
of stats that make R.S.BB the choice of discriminating statheads, and the bane
of Cecil-Fielder-for-MVP supporters everywhere!  And, that's right, Jim, all
this is absolutely FREE!!!!!!!

(Well, ok, not exactly.  Each post really costs hundreds or even thousands of
dollars to send.  :(  But that's ok.  The wuarchive site right now isn't fully
operational, but the updated stats ARE in the /pub directory.  Everything else
is coming along RSN.  And the stats are posted to R.S.BB as well.)

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) *  kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
Keeper of the R.S.BB FAQ, and Junior Stathead {tm} * OK, so I AM the AntiChrist.
Be kind...don't disillusion the RBI-lovers. * Net.Agent, "Doublin" David Rossing
Less widely published as Noel Steere; less likely to rampage than Gary Huckabay.
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: rotisserie:  free agents
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:41:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <88069@netnews.upenn.edu>, blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Icarus P. Anybody) writes...
>I'm running a rotisserie-style league now, in which the participants cannot
>drop players from their rosters and acquire free agents at will, only when
>one of their players is injured.  This seems kinda wack, and has lead to a
>whole bunch of trades involving injured players, so free agents could be
>acquired.
	
	The system my league has:

	We have free agent pickups (but they're not only for injury, just
for any reason), but you MUST keep that person for the _rest of the year_.
	This makes people think twice about pickup up free agents....	
> 
>		- blecher@eniac.seas.upenn.edu


	
Jonny B.