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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Tone question?
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:49:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.205455.19246@qualcomm.com>
dweber@crow.qualcomm.com (Dan Weber) writes:
 
>  Ive, got a question regarding tone and sustain, 'What is a
> good way to get more sustain on my notes without distortion?'
 
Try a compressor. BTW why are you interested in a Tube Screamer?
That will give you plenty of distortion, and sustain too I believe.
 
 
--Eric
 
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From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Opinions on Crate Amps
Date: 25 Sep 92 15:07:38 GMT
Reply-To: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill) posts:

#> I'm thinking about getting a Stealth GT50 (50W) for about $400.
#
#My opinion, for what it may be worth, is to get a Peavey Bandit 112.
#One of my good friends had one and it sounded GREAT.  Is gear included just
#a Bandit 112 and a Ibanez Roadstar II custom.  AMAZING!  He plays metal
#too.  As I remember correctly, they are not that expensive.  Or, try the
#Peavey Bandit 65.  Great amp Too.


I own both a Crate and a Peavey. Both of them are older amps, though -
the Bandit 65 is probably *9* years old, the Crate G120CH head is
probably 4 years old. I could do a comparison, but since these are
older models, and both have probably gone through a lot of changes
since they came out, I don't know if it would help. I've had 1 problem
with the Peavy in all that time, 2 with the Crate (one was from
damage during shipping).

As far as sound goes, the Crate wins hands down. It's solid state,
too, which surprised many people who thought it was tube. It just
plain has better distortion - I've used it for metal, punk, and
general rock and it was fine. However, both amps (being solid state)
are what I call "binary" amps - they only have two sounds, either
clean (on one channel) or really distorted (the other channel).
There's no in-between with solid state IMHO - it sounds wimpy.
I've since gone tube.

Good luck. I'd check out some tube models of each as well. Find a
good store and try the two you listed above side by side and see
what you think - after all, you're the one that will be playing it.


THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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From: bobg@pacesetter.com (Robert N. Girard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Toccata and Fugue
Date: 25 Sep 92 19:53:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Siemens Pacesetter, Inc.


There *is* an available transcription of this for solo guitar, published
by Ricordi (item no. Sy. 418), and transcribed by Jose de Azpiazu.  Guitar
Solo (1411 Clement Street, San Francisco, CA 94118, (415) 386-7660)) sells
it for $6.50.  This arrangement is also in drop-D tuning, and extends up
to the high B at the 19th fret of the first string (in measure 13), so it
*will* all fit on a classical guitar.


-- 
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From: dstoll@aragon.stgt.sub.org (Dieter Stoll)
Subject: Volume pedal in FX loop
Summary: How do YOU do it?
Keywords: Volume pedal vs. guitar volume pot
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 06:14:37 GMT
Organization: Novalis - Laboratoire d'Intelligence Artificielle, Sindelfingen, EUROPE

Ever since I started playing electric I have always had a volume pedal in
the amp's FX loop. So, to turn down or crank up the volume, I never really
use the guitar's volume pot (it's always full up). I guess the advantage is
that you don't lose treble when turning the volume down, and that preamp
distortion works basically unaffected by the overall volume (it's almost like
turning the master volume of the amp down). 
I have always used this more or less intuitively, without much thinking about
the pros and cons. However, I rarely see the "big shots" using this technique -
most of them have a nicely uncluttered stage, with no pedals and cables
whatsoever.
What do YOU think? Anyone using a volume pedal like this?
-- Dieter Stoll
From: bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Zoom Effects Box Opinions Please!
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:20:55 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

I have the 9000.  I've had it for a couple of months now and I love this thing.
I was able to sell all of my stomp boxes to buy it, and I swear by the Zoom.
The foot pedal is a nice plus as well, although I don't use it as much as I
thought I would.  There's a couple of caveats.  One is the noise.  I guess it
depends on your amp or PA system, but mine generates a little noise in some
of the patches.  The other one is the documentation.  Maybe I'm spoiled by
software and computer docs being pretty detailed, but the Zoom 9000 manual 
could be better.  I think it's written in the oriental country where it's
manufactured.  There's quite a few typos and mistranslations.  Other than that
I absolutly love this unit.  And it's the bottom of the line.  I can only 
assume that the 9002 and higher is only better.

Perhaps all of us 9000 users should put together a list of user programmed
patches that we've come up with to share, huh?

Just a thought...
Phil-

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: META000 <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Building your own (ONBOARD PREAMP!)
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:53:05 GMT

In article <pquince.717348835@blacks> pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince) writes:
>mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
>
>>This is *not* true of all man-made things, but in most cases it is
>>easier and much cheaper to build 1000 of something than it is to make
>>one.
>
>That is, effort per unit, of course.  I agree.
>
>Along these lines (and I will reiterate this in a separate article),
>I have finished putting together the onboard preamp spec'd out in _The
>Guitar Handbook_.  A prelim wire up indicated that it does indeed work.
>In a couple few days I will do the jury rig hook up and fuss with the
>adjustment pot.  The big questions then will be:
>
>  o what will the gain be? (which i asked myself as i started)
>  o is it noisy?
>  o what kind of a whammy does it put on the signal?
>
>If I resolve these things to my satisfaction in the affirmative, i.e.
>  o good, with good results all the way through the amp
>  o silent
>  o none
>then it will be time for the real installation.  The design is very
>compact; it uses veroboard and a few components and an op-amp.  As
>such it should fit pretty tightly in the pickup selector switch cavity
>under the finger plate of my friend's shitty strat.  (Should I tell
>my friend?  Will he still be my friend?  More questions...)
>
>And so all this is just sort of an info-mational post; I will speak
>up again after the above is all done, at which point I will start
>(probably redundantly) asking around about schematics for
>other signal-altering circuits.  Thanks for listening... its been
>a pleasure.
>
>pquince
>
>--
>
>If you can't kill me, stop wasting my time!
>.
>.
I've had a preamp in my axe for over a decade, and have installed
them in other guitars.  I recommend NOT setting the gain above 4 or
5, for the following reasons.  Most on-board preamps employ 9v
batteries as their power source, using a floating ground that
provides +/- 4.5 V.  Many modern pickups can provide an output
easily in the 1-volt range, on their own, if you give them a good
wallop.  Since the little pre-amp cannot supply greater output than
its' power supply, a little arithmetic (5 x 1) indicates that it is
extremely easy to use up a big chunk of the pre-amp's headroom with
a gain of 5, and very easy to go into clipping with gains of more
than that.  If on-boardpre-amps were designed as purposefully
distorting devices, that would be one thing, but these things
generally soud lousy when they go into clipping.I might point out,
as well, that if you are intent on overdriving somesubsequent stage,
it becomes very hard to get subtle distortion sounds when the guitar
output is too high.

Just a thought.  Mark Hammer
From: DAHUGH@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Kramer Pacer Custom I wiring
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:21:08 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

Would anyone out there have the wiring for the above guitar?I had someone
fit EMG's but I've now changed to Seymour Duncan's,and the other person seems t
o have changed the wiring around.The guitar has a switch to turn eveything else
off and turn the Humbucker on.There is also another switch to select the HB
as HB,SC or off, alongside the 2xSC on/off switches.The HB I've fitted is a
JB and what's happening is when that the HB is fine when HB only is selected.
But when not andthe coil tap is selected the SC sound is very thin and weak,
and what should be HB is somewhere between the two.HELP!
Thanks,Dave H.
From: hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haw Juin Lin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Peavey Classic 20
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:25:25 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In Ocala,Florida, at Parramore Music, I heard that they were going for about
5 to 6 hundred dollars...

Merlin
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Tube Screamer
Summary: Tube Screamer
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:45:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep28.213031.22356@qualcomm.com>, dweber@crow.qualcomm.com (Dan Weber) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   In the October issue of Guitar Player it is mentioned
>  that Ibanez has repackaged the famous TS-9 ( the green monster)
>  into the TS-5. A local music store has a sale on and is  
>  selling the TS-5 for $25.00.

	I also read this article, The TS-5 is one of the SoundTank
	series pedals. I have not tried it. I have talked to a friend
	who has. He did not like it. Of course he tried it in a store
	at store volume levels.(Hey there a Funeral Home next door!
	so keep it down)
	

	I have played thru a couple of diff TS-9's. Most guitar players
	are not impressed with the Tube Screamer. Its not a hot pedal.
	Most people want one because SRV used one. Then they try it
	and for some strange reason it doesnt sound the same! What the TS
	-5 is used for is to push the amp into distortion. The TS-5 does
	add some of its own distortion, but the amp is suppose to do most
	of the distorting. 
> 
>  Do these really sound the same as the TS-9, if not how do
> they sound? I figure at $25.00 I can't go wrong.
> 
>  
>  Dan
> 
	The original TS-5 are going for as high as $150.00(go figure?)
	See if the owner will let you crank a old Super or a new Super60
	thru the clean channel (on 8) and then kick in the TS-9. You might be 
	pleasantly suprizzzzed!  



	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller)
Subject: Re: Why tubes? (was Re: Building effects units for gu
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:27:54 GMT

I think this is a FAT (Frequently Argued Topic). Not that I mind, but
like the Strat/Les Paul wars, there will never be a resolution.

      :=:=> Derek K. Miller                 dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca

Xref: sparky alt.guitar:8538 misc.forsale:27655
From: webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,misc.forsale
Subject: FORSALE:Ibanez programmable FX pedal
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:20:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Delaware
	Ibanez Programmable Modulation Delay effect pedal.  19 presets

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From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Re: Need Give It Away tab
Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:11:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.225859.23169@microsoft.com> erikm@microsoft.com (Erik Madsen) writes:
>Could someone please mail me the tab to "Give It Away" by the Chili Peppers?
>(or tell me if it's in one of the recent guitar mags?)
>
>Thanks
>erikm@microsoft.com

GIVE IT AWAY (rough from memory version!)  
              
Intro 

--------8---------11----!-------------------------!
--------8---------------!-------------------------!
--s-----10b(12)--(12)---!--s-----8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8--!
-5/7-7------------------!-5/7-7-------------------!
-0-0-0------------------!-0-0-0-------------------!
------------------------!-------------------------!

Verse (repeat)

------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------
----7-6-5--------------7-8-9-----7-6-5----------
--7-------5--5-7-----7---------7-------5--5-7---
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------
              chorus

-------------!-----------------------------------
-------------!-----------------------------------
----7-6------!-----------------------------------
--7-----5----!--7-7-7-7-7-7-7-----etc------------
-------------!--0-0-0-0-0-0-0-----etc------------
-------------!-----------------------------------

solos are over an Em tonality.

ending  riffs                 

                 strum quickly
--8-----------!--17------20----!------------------
--8-----------!--17------20----!------------------
--10b(12)-----!--17------20----!---repeat 4X------
--------------!----------------!------------------
--------------!----------------!------------------
--------------!----------------!------------------

                         pause
-----10-9-8---!----------|---!--------------------
--------------!----------V---!--------------------
-----7--6-5---!-----7-6---5--!---repeat 4X--------
--7-----------!--7-----------!--------------------
--------------!--------------!--------------------
--------------!--------------!-------------------- 

ending chords are just

C     D | A     | C    D | A etc (8X)

This is from memory without a guitar, but it should do the
trick hopefully. Hope the short hand notation isn't too 
confusing.

Mark

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From: r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow)
Subject: Re: Guitar Necks, Oiled
Reply-To: r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow)
Organization: David Mitchell & Associates - Austin
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:55:04 GMT

 > >I've noticed necks with a dull finish in the music stores.  My brother-in-law
> >would like his neck done such.  If there are any other luthiers or guitar 
> >owners out there that might know how this is done, could you let me know 
> >what you think.

    My Martin and my Taylor came from the store with dull finish necks.  Martin uses a nitro-cellulose 
laquer, Taylor uses a product known as fullerplast.  Both of these finishes must be buffed before they 
will shine properly.

	The reason Martin gave me for the dull finish was one of mostly the time involved.  They can 
spend 1/2 hour buffing the neck, or the person playing it can spend a month playing it and get the same 
thing.   It worked for me... My martin's neck is like looking in a mirror... So is my Taylor.

-M-

--
Michael R. Dow
-N1JCX-
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From: bill@bohemia.metronet.org (Bill Dixon)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: forsale: Bass&Guitar cabs and Amps
Summary: Amps and Cabs for sale
Keywords: Bass Guitar Amplifiers Speakers
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:04:57 GMT
Organization: Bohemia BBS System


I have the following items available for sale:

	

	Fender Bassman 100 W. HEAD
		I don't know the year but it is CBS. New pre and power
		amp tubes (<30 hrs.). $300


	Ampeg 8x10 Bass Cabinet
		Older cabinet re-covered in grey ozite. All harware in 
		great shape. $750


	Ampeg 4x12 Guitar Cabinet
		In great shape soundwise tho' the covering is scratched
		and has some small tears $225


	Yamaha Bass Preamp.
		Solid state w/ x-over for bi-amp outs;graphic and parametric 
		equalizers; effects loop; etc. $100

I will deliver any item in Denver Metro (Boulder;Broomfield etc. as well).
Will ship if requested, but I'd rather not. If you don't like the prices make me an 
offer. Email bill@bohemia.metronet.org or Speakmail (303)657-0128 (lv msg).
		
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: Ibanez pickups hum
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:20:15 GMT

till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman) writes:

>   From: META/Mark Hammer
>   It bears noting that my pickup coils could have identical numbers of
>   windings, but unequal DC resistance, and have hum sensitivity as a
>   result.

>Sorry, this is just not correct.  The induced voltage from a magnetic field
>(hum, noise, screaming high Bb, whatever) is determined by (among other
>things) the number of turns of the coil but it is *not* determined by the
>dc resistance of the coil.  Maxwell's equations have been proven pretty

Yes, but the output voltage of the coil under load will be reduced because the
resistance appears in series with the induced voltage. Ironically, a coil with
greater resistance will need more turns to get the voltage up enough to 
compensate for the loss. This will make the DC resistance even more different,
not less. 

However, in the case of Mark's hand-made pickups, the DC resistance may 
indicate bigger, looser, sloppier coils with greater loop area which increases
the inductance, so there could be an exception here. This can only be
guaranteed if the wire is totally uniform though.

bill s
From: haley@husc10.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Why tubes? (was Re: Building effects units for gu
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:11:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Quick explaination about the difference:
Tube amps tend to produce a preponderance of odd harmonics,
transisters tend to produce a preponderance of even harmonics.

With the advent of digital gear, it *IS* possible to have your setup
sound just Like a Marshall stack *IF* your amp is *incredibly* clean
and not overdriven. On the Other hand, does the music world need
someone else who sounds Just like Jimi Hendrix?

Keep playing around with stuff until you find the sound that gets
*YOU* off, and piss on the TUBE/TRANSISTER debate.
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:8469 rec.music.folk:6664
From: tom@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.folk
Subject: Acoustic Pickups
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:20:03 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Does anybody have any experience with Shadow or Ashworth
acoustic guitar pickups?  I'm planning to fit a pickup
and two local dealers have so far recommended these.

When I've mentioned the Martin (thinline) or the LR Baggs
(Duet?) they have both insisted that either the Shadow
or the Ashworth (AJ21) are comparable, sound-wise, with
the more expensive systems.  I don't intend using the
guitar in high-volume locations so feedback with the
Ashworth transducer system shouldn't be a problem (or
am I underestimating how sensitive these transducers
are to feedback?).

Any info appreciated, so are other suggestions that I may
have overlooked. 

tom.

ps  In their small brochure, Ashworth plug the fact that a
guitar on the cover of "the world's biggest selling CD" is
fitted with an Ashworth transducer.  What CD are they referring to?
I've racked my brain and drawn a blank!!
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Experienced beginners & endurance problems
From: haley@husc10.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:15:14 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

1|					   1 2 3 4 3 2 1
2|				   2 3 4 5		 2 3 4 5
3|			   2 3 4 5			 	 2 3 4 5
4|		   3 4 5 6
5|	   4 5 6 7
6| 5 6 7 8
I hadda truncate it for screen length, but ya get the idea...
This will help stretch yer fingers and move all those muscles... Then
take a break, shake out your hands, and practice, practice, prac...
Wait a sec here, with all this practicing going on, how's that little
bit of stretching going to help?
Well here's point two of the GP article:
You shouldn't practice more than about 45 minutes a session and 2 or 3
seesions a day.
Obviously, if you have a gig coming up, you'll probably have to
practice more than 45 minutes, but rehearsals usually have more minor
breaks, to discuss a passage, or listen to a tape, etc... Whereas many
people at home will sit down and play for 2 or 3 hours, almost
non-stop save for flipping a record, or turning a page, or fiddling
with a knob... This is akin to running a marathon everyday... Well,
maybe not that much, but anyway the point is, break up your practice
time to give largish rest spaces in between... You can still get in a
lot of practicing...
You also might want to try and get the GP issue on "MONSTER TECHNIQUE"
Quite a bit of good advice in there about practice...
From: haley@husc10.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Zoom Effects Box Opinions Please!
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:55:09 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <77170009@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce) writes:
>I have the 9000.  I've had it for a couple of months now and I love this thing.

Is this the little box you can strap to your strap or belt  with 3 or
4 sliders on it? 
If so, Sure, It's neat, kinda like the Rockman.
Also like the Rockman, it has an incredibly identifiable sound, unless
you want to spend a long time tweaking the thing... It's neat, to be
sure, but it seriously lacks the fine control the larger and
admittedly more expensive multi effects units have.
I have found that, even to my relatively untrained ear, I can tell
when someone is using one of those... Something I try to avoid...
All depends though... :-)
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