From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Subject: Re: OCA Initiative (was: Family values defined)
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:51:48 GMT


In a previous article, topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht) says:

>ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller) writes:
>
>>>If what you've quoted is essentially the OCA initiative, I'd vote for it.
>>>Sounds reasonably moral.  The right to sexual perversion is not quaranteed
>>>by the Constitution ... or the Bible.
>>>
>>
>>That's true...but the right to freedom from hatred is guaranteed by the
>>constitution...
>
>No doubt this is what our government schools are teaching our young people
>these days, but, problem is, I can't seem to find that "right" anywhere in
>my copy of the Constitution.  Our founding fathers (tm) had better sense
>than to suggest that government could outlaw hatred, or guarantee the
>"right" to be free from it.  More sense than some modern liberal
>do-gooders, at least.
>

  "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union,
  establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense,
  promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves
  and our posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution for the United 
  States of America".

Notice the word "Justice" above.  Justice in no way equates with hatred.
Notice the words "domestic tranquility.  Again, this does not equate with
hatred in any way.
The same with common defense, general welfare, and liberty.  None of these
concepts equate with hatred.

AMENDMENT XIV

  Section 1.  "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and 
  subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and
  of the State wherein they reside.  No State shall abridge the privileges
  or immunities of citizens of the United States; [...] nor deny to any
  person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law."

This amendment gives all persons equal protection under the law.  Simply
stated, no action of a state can remove the rights of a person while
keeping these rights intact for others, without due process of law.


>Besides, what does hatred have to do with the OCA initiative?  The fact
>that some fringe folks in Oregon may be perpetrating violence and hatred
>against homosexuals

Hatred and violence which the OCA has endorsed, indeed, even encouraged, in
the name of the church and their God.

> is no reason to suggest that homosexuals should be
>accorded special political treatment as a protected minority.

I won't debate this with you.  I'm sure you know it's not just a lie, but a 
DAMN lie that the church of intolerance and hatred has told to insure that
their "morality" can be enforced on others

>  They should
>not.  Homosexuality is not a condition, it's a sin.
>

Sin is NOT a basis on which to formulate law.  I'm sure you are aware of
the First amendment ban on government establishing religion.



>"Skin color is a benign, non-behavioral characteristic.  Sexual
> orientation is perhaps the most profound of human behavioral
> characteristics. Comparison of the two is a convenient but invalid
> argument."
>
>                                        Colin Powell,
>                                        chairman of the JCS

>--
>Tom Albrecht
>
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