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From: davidd@noaapmel.gov (David Doll)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: zoom lens inquiry
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:46:34 GMT
Organization: NOAA, Sand Point Way, Seattle, WA


Hello, I'm interested in a zoom in the ~20-30 to ~70-80 range (Nikon mount).
I haven't had the time to spend several days in the library looking through
old magazines,etc. could anyone offer an suggestions; what current data tests
show, etc. I've not fully made up my mind but a AF body may be in my future,
so perhaps being a AF lens would matter...probility not for a year though...

Thanks much.

David

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Newsgroups: rec.photo,can.general,misc.legal
From: beatle@sentry.larc.nasa.gov (Teresa Nicholls)
Subject: Re: What is required to sell pictures?
Organization: NASA/Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
	<1992Apr13.073821.2324@ducvax.auburn.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:39:13 GMT


I have a question on the selling of prints. I took several shots last year
of some bands at one of the festivals here. It's in a city park, do I need 
releases to sell them? Like a 5x7 b&w for a $1?

Teresa
From: jeffs@.SanDiego.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: OM-PC Problem
Keywords: Check battery current
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:35:20 GMT
Reply-To: jeffs@spike.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Jeff Schwartz)
Organization: San Diego Porting Center

I had the exact same problem with my OM-PC except that I sent mine to Olympus
for repairs.  They also sent it back saying nothing was wrong.  The second time
I sent it in, I left the batteries in it and then I got the real story.  
It seems that the earlier models of the OM Series required a certain battery.
The alkaline batteries available everywhere (like K-Mart) DO NOT WORK in OM
cameras except possibly the OM-4.

The good news is that you can go to a camera store and by CAMERA batteries.  If 
I remember, I will bring one with me tomorrow and post the brand name, type and
size.  I paid $6.00 each for the ones I bought last week.  The bad news is that
these seem to last only about 6-9 months but you can buy a lot of $6 batteries
for the price of a new camera.

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG)
Subject: Re: B&H: Please help!
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:41:14 GMT

From article <kukvgvINN21p@alnitak.usc.edu>, by ajayshah@alnitak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah):
> jchen@flash.bellcore.com (Jason Chen) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Apr13.231251.25547@a.cs.okstate.edu> ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes:
> 
>>BTW, I recently ordered a Sigma 70-210 APO. But I am rather dissappointed 
>>in finding out that they shipped me one without the "Zen" finish. I will
>>see if I can get this problem corrected.
> 
> Could you explain this a bit more?
> I just got a Sigma 28-70 lens and didn't notice the word Zen anywhere.
> I'm planning to get the 70-210 APO too.
> (All this is for Nikon AF).

The ZEN finish is black in color and it prevents slipping (off you hand)
and is scratch-proof (or something like that).  The non-ZEN I have is
milky white color (and scratchable like h*ll). 
> 
>         -ans.
> -- 
> 
> Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: duli@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Li Du)
Subject: Re: Some arcane questions
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:05:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.140239> gdw@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (gordon.d.woods) writes:
>I was under the impression that the optical design of many
>lenses changes over the years and that the 105/2.5 was no
>exception. Therefore, an old mechanical 105/2.5 would be different
>from a newer, also mechanical, 105/2.5. So when one refers
>to "the classic 105/2.5", it is an illusion because there is no
>single 105/2.5 design. Perhaps one of the specific designs is
>considered a classic but people don't tend to refer to them that way.
	I think the many changes that had been made to Nikkor 105/2.5 
	since its introduction in 1959, were only cosmetic. The reason
	some people thought Nikon might have changed the optical design
	of 105/2.5 was that there was one version of 105/2.5 that had
	a minimum aperture of f/32. Nikon did that by using a different
	aperture ring and a larger focusing ring design. Nikon later
	dropped f/32 version, probably because the gain in extra DOF 
	was counterbalanced by the diffraction. The only thing that
	improved 105/2.5 over the years was optic coating.

	Speaking of "the classic" design, I was under the impression
	that a "classic/legend/superb" design was, and maybe still is,
	born by accident. When you happened to got one, you stick to
	it. Modern optic design technique makes a good lens design
	easier, but still can not guarantee a "superb" lens everytime. 

---------------------------------
 Li Du | duli@prony.colorado.edu
---------------------------------
From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Rumors?
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:07:23 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science

I've heard of a couple of new EF lenses from Canon, a 20mm and a 85mm
(slower than the 85/1.2, probably around f2). Does anyone have any
substantial info on this, or is it just a rumor? (I'm considering
getting a super wide angle, and I'd prefer a 20mm over a 24mm; the
14mm is too expensive, and probably too wide for me).
--
Per Danielsson				pd@sics.se
Swedish Institute of Computer Science, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
From: ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: B & H and Camera World of Oregon
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:32:07 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Oklahoma State University

From article <1992Apr15.131002.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, by ctobias@violet.ccit.arizona.edu:
> When I ordered from Camera World of Oregon, I asked if all the items were in
> stock.  The guy wasn't sure and said he would check.  They called me back that
> afternoon to tell me that everything was in stock and that it was shipping that
> day.  I was very pleased with that service.

I called CWoO today to order a Sigma 21-35 for my Nikon F4s.  The guy simply
said "Not in stock, bye!" and hang up, all in one breathe.  At least he is
honest.  I got a funny feeling that he was expecting my call.  Now which of 
you squealed on me?
From: jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Tamron Lens Problem
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:49:25 GMT
Organization: Metran Technology, Tampa, Florida

teplitz@optilink.UUCP (Ron Teplitz) writes:
: I just bought a Nikon FA body. To go with it, I just bought a new Tamron
: 35-135 zoom. The Tamron Adaptall mount has those funny little coupling
: levers on either side that are supposed to engage in notches in the lens
: and stay there. Well, the one on the left side of my lens comes disengaged
: when the aperture ring is rotated to a smaller aperture
: ...
: Is this common with these mounts? I know someone
: with one of these on an Olympus who has never seen this,

I have a Nikon FG and two Olympus OM-1 bodies, two Tamron lenses, and
Adaptall-2 mounts for both Nikon and Olympus.

I have the same kind of problem when using the Tamron lenses with my older
OM-1.  The only difference is that the metal coupling tongue slips out when
I go to lower (more open) f/stops.  The problem seems to be that there is
something not quite right in the coupling of the camera's and Adaptall mount's
aperture coupling.  I am not really sure what is going on; a standard Zuiko
lens works fine on the camera, and the Tamron lens works find on my newer
OM-1.

I also have a problem with my Tamron 28mm f/2.5, in that often the diaphragm
does not return to fully open after the exposure.  I think this may be related
to high humidity, but I am not sure.  I would also like to hear from anyone
else who is having or has had a similar problem.

- Jay Ts
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Konica TC info/cameral wanted (maybe).
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:07:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <1992Apr8.212634.19272@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jmb5b@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman) writes:
>I am looking for a small, inexpensive, light SLR.  Would the old Konica TC
>fill the bill?  Is it a good camera?  Does anyone have one they want t
>sell inexpensively?  Can the camera body fit in a coat pocket?

Yeah, it's a good camera.  I used to have one and it gave me fine
service until it was stolen.  Check on the availability of lenses
and other accessories first.  Will it fit in your coat pocket?  It
depends on how big your pockets are.  It's not normally what I
would think of as a pocket camera, but it is more compact than
most SLRs I've used.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	That's one thing about going against the flow:  there's
	less traffic in that direction.
From: kjm@cnmss.tredydev.unisys.com (Ken J. McFadden)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Anyone going to PhotoProExpo?
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:17:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unisys Corporation, Tredyffrin

Is anybody else going to PhotoProExpo in D.C. (May 15-17?).  I'm just going
for the exhibit hall; I don't know why, I'll probably just find new ways of
spending too much on equipment.  I'll probably go on Saturday.

I do have some stuff that I'm not using much lately and would be willing to
trade or sell it cheaply to other netters who might be there.  I got at
least 30 sheets of "normal" contrast cibachrome that I haven't touched since
stocking up on the low contrast stuff.  I also have a couple of muslim
backgrounds, an enlarging timer, 30 pounds of metal slide mounts, glassine(?)
envelopes, 5x7 photo mailers, ...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken McFadden        kjm@cnmss.tredydev.unisys.com
Unisys Corporation  kjm@cnmsa.tredydev.unisys.com
P.O. Box 203        work: (215) 648-3742
Paoli, PA 19301     home: (215) 675-0382
From: dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com (Danny Low)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 22:10:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Illegal photograph postings (was: Your police at work for  you!)
Organization: Hewlett Packard CPCD, Sunnyvale CA
Newsgroups: rec.photo

>Presumably from Karl's comment above we can all be absolutely
>certain that he has NEVER made an audio tape off of an FM or AM
>broadcast, or from a borrowed record (or CD), nor has he ever
>made a VCR tape for his personal collection of a movie that has
>been broadcast on TV, etc.
>Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)

These examples are all explicitly legal based on the concept of 
fair use as defined by court cases and the copyright laws.
The only example above that is NOT legal is taping someone
else's record or CD. Even there, there are some situations
where it would be very difficult to get a conviction.

Scanning someone ELSE'S copyright photograph and posting it on
the net is NOT covered by fair use as it is currently defined.
Under the current definition of fair use, this practice is
theft.

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
	     HP NPCD   dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: jchen@ftrooper.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jason Chen)
Subject: Re: Anyone have ANY Comments about the SIGMA 400mm f5.6 APO Lense?????
Reply-To: jchen@ctt.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 19:34:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.180230.25331@a.cs.okstate.edu>, ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes:
|> 
|> Yeah, I have one and the lens is compact, *really* compact. 


Pop. Photog. says that this lens weights "1 lb and 20 oz." It certainly sounds 
lighter than 2 lb 4 oz. :-)

-- 

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**************E-Mail: jchen@ctt.bellcore.com
**************V-Mail: (908)699-6993
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: kting@cse.unl.edu (Kea Ting)
Subject: Re: portrait lenses / soft focus?
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:17:49 GMT

nigel@isgtec.com (Nigel Burnett) writes:

>The Nikon lenses on my F801 on T-Max film give (to me) incredibly sharp
>images.  Unfortunately, on full-frame shots of people's faces, every
>little skin imperfection shows up in embarrasingly fine detail.

>How does a portrait lens 'solve' this problem?  I presume it's more than
>a matter of just de-focusing slightly.  Will I achieve acceptable results
>by defocusing my 37-70 f2.8 lens slightly?  

>As usual, any advice (esp. from someone with some experience) will be
>most appreciated.

  I have been taking portrait for fun for many years. I figure out that
most people like picture of them when I use the soft filter (or defuser or
other material that make the picture look soft) . Usually
I took some of the picture without filter and some of them with soft filter on,
most people prefer the one with soft filter on. 
    Some of the camera manufacture does produce lens that specially for
portrait that will soften the image. ( I can't remember which now) But
that is pretty expensive lens. 
   You may try the cokin defuser or pastal ( I like pastal better), there are
several degree of softness you can chose, depends on which filter did you buy ,
pastal 1, 2 or 3 . (the higher #, the more softness.) This filter is very
inexpensive when compare to the portrait lens. I never use the protrait
lens before, so I don't know if it is beter that using soft filter.
Anyone use those portrait lens before ? 




  soon

------------------------

University Of
Nebraska-Lincoln

------------------------

Disclaimer : I always speak for my self.
From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Rumors?
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:18:03 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science

I've heard of a couple of new EF lenses from Canon, a 20mm and a 85mm
(slower than the 85/1.2, probably around f2). Does anyone have any
substantial info on this, or is it just a rumor? (I'm considering
getting a super wide angle, and I'd prefer a 20mm over a 24mm; the
14mm is too expensive, and probably too wide for me).
Per Danielsson				pd@sics.se
Swedish Institute of Computer Science, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG)
Subject: Re: Sigma's Zen finish
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 02:26:46 GMT

From article <151B02VdcdbH00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, by bjs@uts.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman):
> In article <74042@netnews.upenn.edu> liang@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Chuck Liang) writes:
> 
>>"Zen" finish crap has got to rank right up there with the best
>>Canon-Minolta yuppie advertizing slogans.  (nothing can beat the EOS
>>ability to let you experience "oneness")
> 
> Personally I'm most offended by the "Image is everything" slogan that
> I see on the "Canon billboard" every time lately when I drive up to San
> Francisco lately.  Makes me feel outdated for thinking that substance should 
> enter into the equation a little.  (Yes I do get the pun, but still ...)

[Flame on]

Personally I am offended by Canon choice of that tennis punk who has yet
to win a Grand Slam event, but then again Canon ain't no Nikon. 

[Flame off] 
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: sparks@col.hp.com (John Sparks)
Subject: Re: Nikon FA, FE2, FE feature summary request
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:23:12 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

In article <5360748@hplsla.hp.com> andyc@hplsla.hp.com (Andy Cassino) writes:
>...I'd still buy two new FE2's at the drop of 
>the hat (at a reasonable price, that is), but have been uninterested in 
>the N8008, etc. as it is, I may have to purchase an F4 for the mirror
>lock-up. (You all will have to pardon my character flaw that causes me to buy
>only new equipment unless the savings are overwhelming. :-) )

Well, you can by an F3 new.  It's a lot like a beefed up FE (although only
1/90 flash sync and 1/2000 top speed).  It's also a lot cheaper than an F4
and has a very nice mirror lockup.  Personally, I have an F3 and an 8008.
I think they make a very nice combination.  I don't need mirror lockup and
autofocus (or high speed flash sync) at the same time.  Besides, the FE2
doesn't have mirror lockup unless you count the self timer.

>I wonder if there's just a few of us stick-in-the-muds, or if Nikon (et al)
>are failing to service a LARGE number of customers.

You can also buy a FM2 new, for those real stick-in-the-muds.  The FE had too
much automation for real photographers! :-)   Or just use your Technikardan!

John Sparks
From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Cambridge Photo...
Keywords: Cambridge, darkroom, cambron
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:09:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr15.040639.17573@uwm.edu>, mfriedel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael John Friedel) writes:
> 
> dev., darkroom design book.)  But my question is: Can I trust Cambridge?


In a word  NO!!!!!!!


===============================================================
Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
===============================================================
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: lavoie@bnr.ca (Marc Lavoie)
Subject: Re: x-rays at airport affecting films
Reply-To: lavoie@bnr.ca (Marc Lavoie)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 14:37:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.124730.9389@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, sl291006@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Phaedrus 'n Co.) writes:
|> In article <19920408082714GERTHD@mvs.sas.com> GERTHD@mvs.sas.com (Thomas Dachsel) writes:
|> >Hi everybody,
|> >this *may* be a FAQ, but I'm going to ask it anyway :)
|> >Are unexposed/exposed films affected by the X-rays they
|> >use at airports to scan luggage etc.?
|> >I know of "film safety bags" that are used in order to
|> >protect films from the effect of some sort of rays.
|> >What I don't know is whether they contain some kind
|> >of lead in order to provide a shielding against those rays.
|> >I also heard that only films of > 400 ASA are sensible
|> >against those rays.
|> >Any comments? Please answer by e-mail, I'll summarize.
|> >
|> >Thomas Dachsel
|> >SAS Institute Inc., Neuenheimer Landstr. 28-30, D-W-6900 Heidelberg,
|> >Germany
|> >Email: GERTHD@MVS.SAS.COM,DACHSEL@RHRK.UNI-KL.DE
|> >Phone: +49 6221 4150, +49 6203 12274
|> 
|> The bag is called "Film Sheild". It is lead lined and comes in regular (=<400asa) or super ( up to 1000 asa).
|> 
|> Mike Kavka
|> kavka_mb@indtech.it.ilstu.edu

No bag will protect your films from all X-ray machines so it depends on where
you travel.  Even in the better countries, x-ray machines are not necesseraly
adjusted often enough and besides, I have heard there is a power adjustment
button the operator can use if he/she can't see well enough what is inside
the bag.

My advice, for what it's worth, is to put your film in a transparent plastic
bag that you ask to have hand examined.  They often refuse at first, saying
that the machine is film safe but, what the heck, they are YOUR films and they
often couldn't care less (or know anything about film).  Insist a bit and they
will usually do it (I only got refused once, at Narita, plus, the guy didn't
speak english and my japaneese isn't goot enough for an argument).  It also
helps if you use a brand of film that uses see-through canisters (Fuji).  That
way, they can see everything without even opening the bag.


Marc Lavoie
Bell-Northern Research
Ottawa, Canada
lavoie@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: kting@cse.unl.edu (Kea Ting)
Subject: Re: B & H and Camera World of Oregon
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:26:29 GMT

ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes:

>From article <1992Apr15.131002.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, by ctobias@violet.ccit.arizona.edu:
>> When I ordered from Camera World of Oregon, I asked if all the items were in
>> stock.  The guy wasn't sure and said he would check.  They called me back that
>> afternoon to tell me that everything was in stock and that it was shipping that
>> day.  I was very pleased with that service.

>I called CWoO today to order a Sigma 21-35 for my Nikon F4s.  The guy simply
>said "Not in stock, bye!" and hang up, all in one breathe.  At least he is
>honest.  I got a funny feeling that he was expecting my call.  Now which of 
>you squealed on me? 

     Ya, I agree some of then is very rude. But you don't want to mad at all
the mail order store because there have bad service service sometime, unless
you have planty of money to buy equipment locally.





soon.
From: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Sigma 400 5.6 APO thoughts
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:26:27 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Originator: asanders@sparta

| Is it possible this person has a defective camera or lens or is 
| Sigma actually trying to market a lense as autofocus that only 
| "works" 10-15% of the time.
				-Pete

A defective lens is possible. Sigma has also been known to have
operational bugs in the AF lenses. They usually work them out, though.

My 70-210/4-5.6 AF Nikkor autofocuses fine at 210mm. Rarely "hunts"
for correct focus except in low-contrast situations. But it seems
to me that the longer the lens, the easier it is to point it at
an area lacking sufficient contrast for the AF mechanism to work
properly.

If, on the other hand, the lens really does have trouble autofocusing,
the other advantage of an AF lens remains: it works with matrix metering
on Nikon cameras that use this metering mode. But I'd almost bet that
the original poster wasn't making sure to point the small AF bracket
in the finder at something contrasty enough for the AF sensors.

						-Alan
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: rudi@Virginia.EDU (Rudi C. Wong)
Subject: Canon Speedlite Reference Guide
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:36:37 GMT


Sometime back I recall reading about a certain Speedlite Reference
Guide available from Canon. Does Canon still distribute this piece of
literature free of charge? And if so, where might I get one?

Thanks a priori.

ps. E-mail responses would be fine.


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