From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Subject: One Apology (was Re: Think of it this way...
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 07:36:17 GMT

And that apology is: sorry I didn't change the distribution to the USA.
I thought of it after I had sent the post. 

I'm sending this world just so everyone outside the US can see this
apology. They can hit "n" now.

In article <EeWp1JG00WDK09FXJZ@andrew.cmu.edu> vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon) writes:
>Cheez! Gimme a break! not *ALL* of us Republicans are slimy bigots! :D I

I grew up in a *staunchly* Republican household. I love my father very
much, and he's a decent, kind man. We have agreed never to discuss
politics or religion, or else all hell would break loose. So no, I don't
think *ALL* Republicans are slimy bigots, but I do believe that many of
the politicians are, and I do believe that most of the Ultra Right Wingers
are. I have been following the increasing vocalizations of groups such as
the Republicans for Choice and I'm amazed. I *am* learning that not all
Republicans are anti-choice and pro-Bush. If those people help Bill Clinton
get elected, then I'll feel very kindly toward them.

I do think that many "everyday" Republicans (like my father, unfortunately)
hear only what they want to hear when Bush is speaking. They pick up on
hotspot buzzwords (like "liberal" and "tax and spend") and just go yeah, yeah
without learning more. Who was whats-her-name's "Fax from Hell" intended
for? It was intended for the people who'll vote Republican come hell or
high water and need something to quote. (I've already had someone say to
me that Clinton is a "philandering, dope-smoking, draft dodger" and when
I asked where they'd gotten those buzzwords, they just said "well, that's
what he is" and evaded my question.)

It's no lie that the Right Wing have pretty much taken over the Republican
Party. We should be afraid, very afraid, of them. I am, and that's why I
get so angry at the attitudes shown by people who aren't using their
brains when it comes to this election. I'm not an activist, I never have
been, but the spark is burning in me and sometimes I have to blow off
steam. For the first time in my life I'm thinking of getting involved
in a campaign (believe it or not, I have no connection with the Clinton
camp) and joining groups such as NOW and others that will hopefully
take the reins away from the Right.
 
>enjoyed your post except for the generalization that all Republicans are
>bigoted right-wingers. Even though you admitted that Democrats have
>their share of worthlessness, you really neglected to give Republicans
>any credit whatsoever. I will be voting for Clinton this fall because
>I'm sick of Bush, and because I don't like some of things he has done
>(for the record, I wasn't old enough to vote in 1988), but also because
>I like Clinton (even though I *hate* Gore and the Tipster). There are

I'm learning more about Al Gore every day and I really like him. I just
got his book _Earth in the Balance_ and I'm looking forward to reading
it. Do you hate him just because he's married to Tipper? (btw, I also
hate the idea of record labels and think the PMRC is a BAD IDEA)

>definitely many things the Republican party as a whole needs to change,
>but the same goes for Democrats (BTW: I also despise our current party
>system entirely, but in order to be heard I must at least participate).

I'm glad to hear it. For people who don't like the status quo, participation
is the only way to change it. 

>Many Republicans *do* have brains that they use as evidenced by the
>recent attempt by many Republicans to get the party to change its stance
>on abortion..... :D

I am *really* looking forward to the Republican convention. I'll be
watching closely.

>BTW: Quayle won't be running in 1996--Baker will be. The only reason
>he's not running this year is because he's too good of a friend to
>George to compete with him--and it's a shame too.

Marilyn Quayle said last week that Dan would be running. We'll find out...

I don't know if I'll follow this up, should anyone respond. I definitely
won't unless the distribution has been changed. This thread will get
more and more political if it continues, and the music groups aren't
the place for it. 

People *should* vote though, and I was giving a personal incentive for
them to vote. My e-mail has been very supportive (except for a few
offended Young Republicans, who have already informed me that my vote
will be cancelled out :-) ) so I don't feel so bad about spouting off.
The apathy and the Tipper-bashing (as reflected on Bill Clinton) just
makes me mad. It's hard to fight the Tipper problem (I disapprove of
her crusade too) and the apathy problem is something I'm very familiar
with because I used to be that way. I just wanted to shake things up
and see what fell out, har har. Democrats *are* terrible at getting
out and voting. It's a sad fact that I wanted to address.

Vickie