From: wltsai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Wei-Lun Tsai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: more stuff
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:43:39 GMT
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Summary: Peace....Not!

In article <1g99loINNaf3@agate.berkeley.edu> chrchan@soda.berkeley.edu
(Christopher Chan) writes:
>    ........ On two occasions, my friends and I were
>just hangin' around in our little clique with the token wannabe white
>guy and one of the AF's would say something like, "you know, you guys
>are never gonna get married."  And it would be totally unprovoked.  I've
>been told by other AM's of other, similar experiences they've had.
>"Asian guys are scum!"  "Asian guys are losers!"  etc...  In our faces.
>And it always bothered me why us AM's always put up with this stuff.
>Again, this is what I mean by being loyal.  A lot of us just take
>these comments w/o reacting.  Some of us are provoked to strike
>back, which gives the AF even more ammunition to use against us.
>One of my friends just said, "cool deal!" cuz he was one of those
>jerk-types who'd have a different woman every week.  Then I figured,
>you know, maybe some AF's take some sh*t from AM's.  Maybe not from
>me or any other AM's I know, but maybe from some other AM.  So, we
>have AM's taking sh*t from AF's and AF's taking sh*t from AM's.  Let's
>cut the sh*t.  I'm Audi 5000.
>
Huh?  Judging by his e-mail address I assume Chris Chan attends U.C.
Berkeley.  But either I have been lucky enough not to have gotten any
insults from (on no!) A/AAF's or Mr. Chan is blowing things way off of
proportion.

I hang around with different cliques (one w/ all 1st gen. Chinese
immigrants, one w/ a 2nd gen. Chinese American and his AA friends)
but we have never had the misfortune of girls coming up to us and
insult us like "You guys are losers, etc."  (Hey, the cute girls just
ignore us! 8-( 8-) )  We happen to know quite a few AF and AAF friends
and they never say anything like that!

Maybe it's because you (possibly you guys) have such negative attitudes
that others (whatever their ethnicity) tend to be more negative with you.
I mean, if I were an AAF and I heard some guys saying things like "Geez those
AAF are such race-traitors they only date honkey breath white guys and pass
up on us stduly Asian men" I wouldn't waste any time insulting them back.

Either that might be the reason or we live in completely different parts
of the U.C. campus.

On a side note, I have heard stories that recently during the student govern-
ment senate elections (ASUC senate election) here at Cal, a white student
candidate (from a party supposedly w/ predominantly white liberal-arts
students) insulted another candidate (whose party, appropriately named
the Gold (=yellow) Party, made up with all Asian and AA students) and
made fun of him because his party was all-Asian.  So argument broke out
between the two of them but the "confrontation" was broke off before
it got physical.  Like I said, if a guy comes up to me and insults me like
that the first thing I will do is break off his nose before he can say
"Sweet and Sour Pork" and teach him a lesson
about the stereotype that Asian guys are quite, passive, and weak.  "Hey,
ring me up and let me know how you like your new sergically-adjusted nose!"

>Chris Chan

Warren T.
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