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From: clc5q@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Long Island Hamlet Cup Results: Spoilers
Originator: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:34:21 GMT


I made this a spoiler posting because some people might be watching the TV
tonight in the USA (Prime Sports Network).

Here was the draw going into today's quarterfinal matches:

Stefan Edberg (1)     -------|
Carsten Arriens       -------|------+
                                    |
Petr Korda (6)        -------|------+-------------+
Stefano Pescosolido   -------|                    |
                                                  +------------
Ivan Lendl (3)        -------|                    |
Boris Becker (5)      -------|------+-------------+
                                    |
Alexander Volkov (7)  -------|------+
Michael Chang (2)     -------|


In today's matches, Stefan Edberg beat Carsten Arriens 6-4, 6-0; Petr Korda
beat Stefano Pescosolido  7-6(7-4), 6-2; and Boris Becker withdrew from the
tournament a few hours before his match with Ivan Lendl, due to a virus that
was aggravated by playing 3 sets in the heat and humidity yesterday against
Carl-Uwe Steeb.  Becker said he was looking forward to playing Ivan, because
they might meet at the U.S. Open in the 4th round, and he likes that kind of
test before a grand slam event, but he needs the rest today.

Michael Chang is expected to play Alexander Volkov tonight, and that will
probably be the TV match, but they might have highlights of the other two.
We could have the third match in 3 weeks between Lendl and Chang, with
Lendl having won both matches so far in straight sets (6-2, 6-3 at Cincinnati;
6-3, 7-6 (9-7) at New Haven.)  Oddly enough, they had played no sanctioned
ATP matches since their 1989 French Open 4th round match, which Chang won
after being down 2 sets to 0.  Chang also won in the same fashion at the
Grand Slam Cup last December, but that is not an ATP sanctioned event, so
their official head to head record is 2-1 Lendl, soon to be 3-1.

Unfortunately, Lendl doesn't get the bonus points and confidence boost he
would get by actually beating Becker. Chang will be good bonus points,
though, because he is #4 at the moment (45 bonus points every time Lendl
beats him.)

Assuming the same prize money as last year's Hamlet tournament, the ranking
points offered are:

Winner=110  Finalist=83  Semifinalists=55 Quarterfinalists=28 2nd Rounders=14
   and of course, 1st Rounders=1.

If Lendl beats Chang and Edberg, he wins about 218 points. If he beats Chang
but loses to Edberg, he gets about 146 points.  Becker will get about 52
points. So Lendl should pass Agassi and Becker in the rankings to get up
to #7 again.  Agassi and Becker will both have an easier time than Lendl
in gaining points at the U.S. Open, due to early losses last year.
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Spoiler warnings (no spoilers)
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:51:42 GMT


    With the US Open now upon us, there will probably be plenty
of posts.   Some folks videotape matches (not me, no VCR) and
watch it later in the day, and would prefer not reading the
results on the net.  So, rather than posting a subject that
says "Connors beats Navratilova", one should put "US Open -
Monday results" or one could be more specific and say
"US Open - Monday results, day coverage"  Or something
suitable like that.  It doesn't take that long to put
the spoiler warnings.   While it is likely that most
information does concern the US Open, we still get 
posts like those trying to get rid of tickets.  You ought
to be careful even when predicting who might win since
it may depend on who won or lost on the current day.

   We might make it OK to post all results the following day
if there is no objection.   In any case, if you really want to
avoid all results,  then one should avoid this newsgroup for
two weeks or try not to read the current day's postings.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: bose@femto.cs.umn.edu (Ashim Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US Open prediction (mens)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:04:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <HARI.92Aug31101034@robios2.me.wisc.edu> hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari) writes:
>
>In the men's side:
>
>I think  US Open `92' is literally the most `open' with no clear
>favourites. I don't think anybody should be surprised if *anybody* in
>the top 10 wins. My pick for the US open mens champ: 
>`SOMEONE IN THE TOP 10' ( hopefully Edberg ( although not likely
>considering his poor form))         
>
>- Hari

Gosh, this is definitely my pick for the "most inane post concerning the
'92 US Open" award :-) You are PICKING Edberg, and at the same time
admitting he is unlikely to win considering his poor form !!!  What exactly
are you trying to say, Hari?

Ashim
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From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: Is Sampras Peaking for the US Open?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 03:24:57 GMT


FROM  clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin):


>      Sampras can pressure Courier, who  seemed  to  not  be
> hitting  at his best today.   His formidable groundies made
> it difficult for Courier to push him around as he  might  a
> lesser player.  Also, by taking the net, he puts additional
> pressure  on  Courier.  Courier may be relatively fast, but
> seemed to have trouble running  down  those  shots  that  a
> Chang might get to.

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      All along, I have thought that Pete  Sampras  has  the
 best talent  on the tour these days.   Putting  his  skills
 together  to maximize his game is another point.  If I were
 to compare Courier and Sampras,  think   about   a   steady
 heartbeat   for  Courier   (always  strong and not too many
 deviations); while Sampras can  be  pictured  as  one  with
 plenty  of  surges (unpredictable, yet excellent).

      I think they are buddies off the court too.   Somehow,
 both have  different  approaches  to the game.   Shades  of
 Connors and Nastase, Borg and MacEnroe (?).

      Would this  Sampras  win  a  prelude  to  this  year's
 recapturing  of   the   U.S.  Open  title for him?  I'm not
 betting.  But, he looks better and better.

                                             -TEG
From: v050lt62@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott C St. Joseph)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Wall Posters
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


        I just wanted to ask if anyone knew if they made wall posters of any
players besides Agassi and McEnroe. Not that I don't like these players, but
I think alot of us would enjoy other players as well. If someone knows an
address, or a phone number of a company or a store that sells posters, please
e-mail me, as I might not see the post.Thanks in advance.

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    University          Saint                   Seems like the only      
        at           v050lt62@ubvms.       Yankee, Bengals,Flyers,'Cuse fan  
     Buffalo          buffalo.edu                 on the network!!!!! 
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From: adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Friday's News
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:09:27 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun24.bbn.com


Mazda Classic (Carlsbad, CA)
----------------------------
  Meskhi d. Sabatini(1)  <===!!! 6-0, 6-3
  Garrison d. Javier
  Grossman d. Novotna(5)


Hamlet Cup (Commack, NY)
------------------------
  Arriens d. Brad Gilbert(8)
  Edberg(1) d. Arias
  Lendl(3) d. Delaitre
  Becker(5) d. Steeb


OTB Open (Schenectady, NY)
--------------------------
  E Sanchez(5) d. Clavet(4)
  Morgan d. Haarhuis

  Werdel d. Sukova(1)
  Rottier d. Gildemeister(5)
  Schultz(4) d. Whitlinger


Umag, Croatia
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  Muster d. Prinsosil
  Perez-Roldan d. Baur
  Mezzadri d. Gorriz


Anne
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Re. Pick for US Open.
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:47:04 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug25.184436.3593@uceng.UC.EDU>, bnataraj@uceng.UC.EDU (Bhaskar  Natarajan) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.173050.14005@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
> 
> Charles, speculating on US Open Possibilities :
> 	
> (Bhaskar replies:)
> 
> Wow. No mention of Jim Courier ! Quite a come down for our poor 
> numero uno.
> 

   Well, Courier is starting to play a little better, but he
has had a relatively poor summer after the French.  The
finals showing was his best since then.   This doesn't mean that
he won't suddenly play better.  I looked toward Edberg and Sampras
since they both won tournaments, but as Shun likes to point
out, this may mean nothing.   Becker played Sampras a close
match, and so you can't count him out.  Agassi didn't even
play this week (not that I'm aware of) and he won the
Canadian recently.  I'm not putting my money on Lendl, but
he is playing reasonably well.  However, a loss to Agassi,
Sampras, and Edberg means that there are still three folks
that give Lendl trouble, and that doesn't sound good.

   Again, we'll have to see.  Courier isn't playing the same
kind of dominating tennis that won him the French.  It doesn't
mean he won't win again, but on form, he still needs to do
a bit better.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: soska@nbrwh36.bnr.ca (Daniel Soska)
Subject: Re: US Open - Wednesday play (spoilers)
Organization: Northern Telecom, Bramalea, Canada
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 14:26:25 GMT

Did anybody see the graphic that USA Network put up early in the Connors/Oncins
match?  It was really amusing and looked something like this:

Years Alive

Oncins : ********************  22

Connors: ********************************************  40


I had to laugh, eventhough I was pulling for Oncins.

Daniel.

Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.
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From: yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au (Michael Hanslip)
Subject: US Open on OZ TV-Schedule???
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:00:22 GMT

Anyone in Australia know which channel and when will carry the Open???
Or even if???
Emailed responses to mdh410@csc.anu.edu.au would be greatly appreciated
since I haven't missed watching this Slam in several years-but always
on ESPN (or whichever US network covered it in the past and was fed
across the border to Canada.
Thanks,
 Michael.
From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Past U.S. Open Results for the 16 Seeded Men
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:53:37 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

In article <HARI.92Aug28125936@robios6.me.wisc.edu> hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari) writes:
>>How the 16 men's seeds have done in past U.S. Opens:
>
>>               1977  78  79  80  81  82  83  84  85  86  87  88  89  90  91
>>               ----  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --
>>Lendl (9)        --  --   2  QF   4   F   F   F   W   W   W   F   F  QF  SF
>                                                                      ^^
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Lendl lost in the Semi-Finals to
>Pete Samparas.

No, Sampras beat Lendl in 5 sets in the quarterfinals. In the semifinals,
Sampras beat John McEnroe, then Agassi in the final.

Scores:

Sampras def. Lendl   6-4, 7-6, 3-6, 4-6, 6-2
Sampras def. McEnroe 6-2, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3
Sampras def. Agassi  6-4, 6-3, 6-2
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From: bose@unity.cs.umn.edu (Ashim Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US Open - Tuesday comments (spoilers)
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:44:28 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <BtynEL.DLL@apollo.hp.com> johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.045050.19437@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>>
>>   The early match that I thought Becker would have an easy time
>
>I watched the coverage of this one, and commented to my wife fairly
>early in the 1st set that Becker wasn't playing a match - he was using
>this as an opportunity to get in some high-level practice against a
>real opponent.  He wasn't interested in hitting winners; he was
>gradually refining his accuracy, getting the shots closer and closer
>to the lines.  This went on until about the fifth or sixth game of
>the third set, when Becker stopped practising and started to play.
>-- 
>John Francis                                johnf@apollo.hp.com

BBC Sports Roundup last night had a brief interview with Becker in which he said
Curren has always played him tough ever since the Wimbledon Final (?) a few
years ago.

Ashim
From: donna@attic.bae.bellcore.com (Donna Feliciano)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: U.S. Open Tickets gone
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:49:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: walter.1992Aug28.174925.4214
Organization: Bellcore

The U.S. Open Tickets that I advertised yesterday are gone.
Sorry I didn't have enough to go around!!

Donna

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From: PH412000@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: US Open prediction(was Edberg vs Washington....)
Organization: Brown University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:21:55 GMT


I know it's silly to predict but I will do it anyway.

Providing they won't meet each other before semifinals, my semifinalists
will be:

Sampras,Edberg,Lendl, and Becker.

Yes, no Agassi and Courier but they will have a chance if Lendl and Becker
have to face Sampras and Edberg before semifinals.

no flames please, it's only a prediction.

Quan

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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Commentors (spoilers)
Keywords: for the US Open
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:43:46 GMT

   So far, I have seen Vitas, Tracy Austin, and some guy named
Bill McAtee or something like that.  I suppose Tim Mayotte
is really part of the Prime Network crew and won't be calling
matches for USA network.  Barry MacKay may, but I didn't see
him on this morning.

   On the Stadium Court this morning, Michael Stich played
his first match against Olivier Delaitre (of France, presumably).
Stich started off poorly, and was broken early.   He didn't
appear to be hitting well, though the windy conditions may
have been a factor.  It was quite windy at the beginning. but
it seemed a bit better a few games into the match.  I stopped
watching at about 4-3 to Delaitre.  Delaitre, as Vitas pointed
out, is somewhat like Johan Kriek.  He is rather short and stocky,
and moves pretty well.  Delaitre seems to have decent groundstrokes
and passing shots, and does better off the pass.  He seemed
to be handling Stich's serve reasonably well, though
he made a few mistakes of his own.   The crowds seemed quite
sparse for the early coverage.  I suppose Stich doesn't
quite have the same drawing power as the other top seeds.

   Tonight, Jim Courier plays against Alex O'Brien, the former
number one player at Stanford University's tennis team.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Lucky Seles...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:38:57 GMT

In article <l9t2buINNlv9@news.bbn.com> adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.175635.4979@ohm.york.ac.uk>, weber@ohm.york.ac.uk (Weber Martins) writes:

>|> It's amazing and I can't leave this fact aside... Everyone knows
>|> that Seles has lost her three last finals (Steffi, Martina and
>|> Arantxa). She has to be very lucky not to meet anyone of them until
>|> final!!!!!

>   Yeah but Monica got Capriati in the quarter-finals.  I think
>   she would have preferred anyone else but Jennifer.

Actually, Seles has not been playing that well lately and is making
quite a few unforced errors. Given the way she played in those finals,
a "normal" Sabatini or a Capriati in a good day can beat her too.
Steffi, Martina and Arantxa just happen to take full advantage of
Seles' errors in those days. Of course, Steffi and Martina played
great in those finals, leading to very one-sided matches.

>|> about not grunting and, more, that she told 'Graf will be never
>|> number one again'. More than ever, I wish Seles is wrong...

I am no Seles fan and certainly don't feel the need to defend her.
However, she seems to be too smart to make this kind of statement.
I am wondering whether the magazine just created that quote from
thin air.
-- 
-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: us open draw
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:04:29 GMT


Another UPI story has revealed that, if the seeds all win, the semifinals
would pit #1 seed Jim Courier versus #3 seed Pete Sampras, and #2 seed
Stefan Edberg against #4 seed Michael Chang. Of course, Chang has not
made it to the semis of any grand slam event since the 1989 French Open.
If I were Jim Courier, I would rather have had the coin flip come out the
other way and play Chang (or whomever) instead of Sampras.

The women's semis would have #1 seed Monica Seles against #4 seed Gabriela
Sabatini, and #2 seed Steffi Graf against #3 seed Martina Navratilova.

Connors says he is "beyond 50/50" at this point and expects to play. His
first round match against Jaime Oncins will probably be delayed until
Wednesday, as the first round is spread over 3 days this year instead of
2 days. Oncins was beaten 6-2, 6-0, or something like that, in the first
round at Hamlet this week by Petr Korda. Wednesday will be Connors' 40th
birthday, so the crowd should be wild. If he can get past Oncins, Lendl
will teach him how Rosewall felt in 1974. What goes around, comes around.....
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Prince Vortex and Agassi (was Re: rackets)
Keywords: what the pros use
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:53:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.192813.18088@chpc.utexas.edu>, eddie@chpc.utexas.edu (Eddie Hedges) writes:
> Info provided by the September issue of Tennis Magazine page 155.
> 
> The U.S. OPEN on USA when the SUMMER really gets HOT!
> 
> Men                 Racquet           Model 
> 
> Andre Agassi        Donnay            Andre Agassi Pro One
> 
> Women
> 
> Jennifer Capriati   Prince            Synergy 26 DB Mid 

   I didn't get too close a look, but the racquet that Agassi
appeared to be using during the Arthur Ashe event doesn't appear
to be the bright orange racquet he normally uses.  Someone
who saw more closely should verify this.

Prince Vortex Oversize
----------------------
  
    Went to demo this racquet.  The vortex has this interesting
stringing pattern which, rather than drilling the holes on a
single plane, it drill alternately on two planes.  It creates
a neat pattern near the edge.   However, the racquet played
a lot like the Synergy's, and I didn't notice a great deal
of difference between this racquet, and say the Synergy 28.
While this is a densely strung racquet, I seemed to able
to get a reasonable amount of spin.   It seems decent on
the groundstrokes, but I still have the feeling that it
is "weak" in the head, meaning that it didn't seem like
there was a lot of mass in the head area.  Still, it's
mostly a groundstroking racquet, though it feels decent
on volleys and serves as well.  It doesn't feel like an
overly stiff racquet (say, compared to the Approach) which
may be partly attributed to the new dampening system
(some liquid crystal stuff) or perhaps that the entire
line has gone more flexible.

   This racquet has made it more optimistic that if I
were to get a new racquet (which I will try to avoid
for at least a year, then it will most likely be
an oversized.   If I were to get one right now, I would
tentatively say the Dunlop Quake 8.0 or 10.0 in the
oversized), it would be an oversized one.  Right noe
I am using the Pro One Limited Super Midsize, at low
tension.  While I'm not hitting the ball with so much
pace (never really have), low tensions seemed to make
the slice backhand feel a lot better, though I am having
a little difficulty controlling some drop shots.

   Again, take my opinion for what it's worth (not much).
It's hard to make comparisons without all the racquets
together, and perhaps a more objective way of testing
them.  It doesn't help that I usually get 4 3/8 inch
(L3) racquets when I prefer a 4 1/2 inch (L4) and that
I'm not sure what the tension is.

    Will hopefully be hitting with the Academy Pro sometime.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
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From: bonacci@ecf.toronto.edu (BONACCI John)
Subject: thurs usopen spoiler
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:08:23 GMT

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Coetzer d. Tauziat 6-0,6-0 <<<<double bagel, oh and oh!!  jeepers!
                               this is Tauziat(12) I believe!!
                               Holy mole'!


JB
Looking forward to another early-round mega-billing (Connors v Lendl).
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From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Graf's new racquet
Summary: Graf's new recquet
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:00:51 GMT

Anybody know that Graf is using at the US-Open?

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