HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ekevik@media.uio.no (Oystein Ekevik)
Subject: Re: arrest of Business Times journalists
Followup-To: soc.culture.asean
Organization: Dept. of Media & Communication
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:06:20 GMT

In article <Bz62I6.Et1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sbog6936@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bin
Ong) wrote:
> 
> Just read in the latest issue of SIFlash on the GOPHER - that 4 BT journalists
> had been arrested for violation of the Official Secrets Act in releasing
> Dept of Stats estimate that 2nd qtr economic growth rate in Singapore was
> less than 5%. And now the kicker: of the 4 journalists, 2 had defence
> attorneys from the bigies in law firms in town. Specifically, one 
> has a defence attorney from Lee&Lee, and the other, from ShookLin&Bok. 
> For the uninitiated, Lee&Lee is Snr Minister Lee and his wife's law
> firm (hence Lee&Lee), while ShookLin&Bok (if I remember correctly), had
> been a major source of the current High Court bench.
> 
(stuff deleted)

Can you share with us the names of journalists? Need that for the record.

*****************************************
Oystein Ekevik, P.O.Box 1093, Blindern, 0317 Oslo
Dept. of Media & Communication
University of OSLO, Norway
e-mail ekevik@media.uio.no, fax ++47-2-694790
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE)
Subject: Re: Summer 1993 Programs at National University of Singapore
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:43:05 GMT

Peter Chang (pcchang@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: 
: Dear Fellow Netters,
: 
: 
:    I am currently looking into 1993 Summer programs at NUS. In 
: particular, I am interested in either a management program or
: a Mandarin language program. 
: 
:    If you have direct experience with Summer programs at NUS, I
: would appreciate very much any advice on this matter. Also, any
: useful contacts at NUS or elsewhere would be greatly appreciated.
: 
: 
: 						Thanks,
:    						   Peter Chang
: 
Huh? You mean that there is Summer programs in NUS? How come I dunno? By
the time you guys start your summer vacation, NUS would have started on
a new academic year. Our 'summer' is from April to end of June. Even if
we do have any summer programs, the timing might be perhaps a little out
for you guys. :)

--
---------------------------------------------------------
Tan Gim Wee
EE Dept, NUS
internet: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg
bitnet: eng20009@nusvm.bitnet
"It was a dark and stormy night......"	-  Snoopy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.australian
From: wns1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (WANTYA NAJADI SAPARDAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:29:24 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec16.135332.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod
 Swift) writes:
>In article <1992Dec7.202058.120295@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, wns1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (
WANTYA NAJADI SAPARDAN) writes:
>>     How do you suppose to confirm that Xanana was under pressure?  How does
>>     somebody outside that interview know that he was under pressure and
>>     threatened?  Why don't you and those people believe that Xanana was
>>     telling what he felt and the truth?  What reason do you have not to
>>     believe the intervie?  Were you and those Portuguese officials there at
>>     the interview?  I don't see why people can say that all these were lies
>>     without being there.
>
>Read it and weep...  Summary from a story appearing on Australian Associated
>Press' NewsTrack wire service.
>
>Newspaper reports indicate that Xanana Gusmao has told a Portugese journalist
>that he has not given up the struggle for East Timor, despite public state-
>ments to the contrary.
>
>The journalist, working for Portugal's "The Age" newspaper, held the interview
>with Gusmao in heavily censored conditions.  At one point in the interview,
>when both Gusmao and the journalist were out of earshot of the Indonesian
>officials, Gusmao whispered to the journalist that he had not given up the
>fight for East Timorese independence.
>
>Meanwhile, the Portugese and Indonesian representatives at the UN are meeting
>with UN secretary general Dr Boutros Boutros-Ghali to discuss the future of
>East Timor.
>
>Rod Swift
>--
>|            . . .   . . . . .          "It leaves us galloping up Diarrhoea|
>|        +  +  +     +  +  +  +  +                  Drive without a saddle."|
>|    *   *   *       *   *   *   *   *                                      |
>|R    o    d         S    w    i    f    t        -- Kryten from "Red Dwarf"|
>+-----------------------------------+---------+-----------------------------+
>|  Curtin University of Technology  |  Perth  |  RSWIFTRW@cc.Curtin.edu.au  |
>
Hallo there,


        If you can't believe the Indonesian Gov't, how can you believe a Por-
        tuguese journalist......come on, you actually believe a Portuguese
        journalist???   I don't believe any of the reports........I will
        believe what I see and hear first hand......



                                                    W. SAPARDAN
From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Attempted forgery!
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:11:08 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

Hiya y'll,
	Hmm...  Looks like someone got real pissed off at my "please don't post
tests here" postings.  So much that that person decided to forge a posting in
my name...  And the next time you choose to forge a posting again, do try to
find a daemon that doesn't check where you are from...  Oh yeah, you might want
to email me to see where you went wrong... :)  No need to worry about me
knowing who you are since I would know who you are in a little while anyway. :) 
	Anyway, this does illustrate an important point...  *ANY* of the
postings here could be forged, and most of us wouldn't know better (I am sure
no one reads the headers, right?).  I have more to say... but don't know too
much about this problem, and also don't have the expertise...  Any others out
there who have comments?
	Also... notice that anon posting supposedly by me?  Any one who has
email from me before could have posted that...  Interesting...
	Ciao.

-Tai "you know you are getting important when people forge your signatures, etc
etc" :) ;-P !-|


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: INA: KhmerRouge seize U.N. troops
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 17:48:01 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

purwinto@rodan.acs.syr.edu () writes:

>         Khmer Rouge Seize U.N. Troops
> 
> Bangkok, December 16 -- The New York Times
> 
> Khmer Rouge guerillas have taken hostage 19 United
> Nations peacekeeping troops in central Cambodia in
> the second such incident this month.
 
 Some of the UN forces were from here in New Zealand. Be happy they
 have been released though.


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From: gtd033a@prism.gatech.EDU (Dedy Tando)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Looking for someone...
Keywords: Looking for someone...
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:25:24 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.asean
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


	Hey all netters!! I am looking for a long-lost friend of mine who has
  moved to the US about three years ago. Her name is Vina Wijaya, she's about 
  college age right now, and she was from Indonesia. If anyone knows who and 
  where she is (which school she's in and where she's residing), please e-mail
  direct to me and tell me what you know. I would appreciate this very much!!

	A merry Christmas and happy New Year to all!!

      


-- 
Dedy Tando
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: hamdan@iti.gov.sg (Outlander(KSL))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Merlion Cup Final....
Date: 21 Dec 92 02:05:11 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Originator: hamdan@atlas.iti.gov.sg


Hi,

Just to conclude....

South Korea 	3	China	1

Nothing interesting to say. Didn't watch the game or bother(sp?) to read the whole
report. Suffice to say the rainy season has taken its toll on me. pass me the
tissues...........ah....chooo...!!!

bye....folks....till the next game.....stay...cool......!

Always....me!
Outlander.

-- 
 H.Hamdan(Outlander) 			|	Internet: hamdan@iti.gov.sg
 Resource Engineering Centre	    	|	Bitnet  : hamdan@itivax.bitnet
 Information Technology Institute    	|	Fax     : (65) 777 3043
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From: iscksc@nuscc.nus.sg (Mr Khoo Siau Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Temper University and Arizona University
Date: 10 Dec 92 08:21:44 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore

A friend of mine got acceptance in both the universities to pursue a
master degree in Education and Child Psychology. She doesn't know which
universities is better for her in terms of (1) quality of education; (2)
quality of living (ie., crime rate, etc.).

I would really appreciate if any netter can provide any relevant
information. 

Thank you.

-- Siau Cheng
From: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Summer 1993 Programs at National University of Singapore
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:22:38 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

C R Pennell (hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg) wrote:
: 
: 	[stuff deleted]
:
: 	Presumably the fellow wants to know whether, during HIS summer
: vacation there are any programme he can attend at NUS. The answer, which   
: Tan Gim Wee would have known if he'd taken the trouble to find out, (or
: shut up if he didn't) is yes. Well, "yes, but. . " NUS runs an external/
: adult education program which often coincides with University vacs in the
: northern hemisphere. They are primarily aimed at local residents though,
: and are held in the evenings once or twice a week. But there are also
: short programmes of an intensive nature (or so they say) at other times.
: Singapore Poly runs courses like this too - but I don't know about these
: particular subjects. I'll give the External dept a buzz tomorrow
: and ask. It may not be what you want, mind (you'd have to find something
: to do during the day!) But don't be put off by the cute answer above.
: 
: BTW Singapore doesn't have a summer at all. It has two seasons: hot and
: rainy	and slightly less hot and very rainy. 
: 
: Richard Pennell, History NUS

One may also presume that he is talking about a regular summer program
like those that are available in the US. How are you to know that he is
not refering to those types of programs, which the NUS does not have. BY
the way, Extramural programs are available all year round, run by the
Dept of Extramural Studies. What External Dept? Got meh?
Programs available from the extramural dept include computer
programming, basic business law, some business stuff like accounting etc,
economics for A-level preparations. The computer programming usually
covers C programming.
Seems that you also don't really know much more than me. :) (note
smilie!) *hehehe*


"Wu3 shi2 bu4 xiao4 bai3 bu4"
--
---------------------------------------------------------
Tan Gim Wee
EE Dept, NUS
internet: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg
bitnet: eng20009@nusvm.bitnet
"It was a dark and stormy night......"	-  Snoopy
From: c580503@mugcnx12.mugcnx1.missouri.edu (ALBERT FOO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: NO MORE ANON TEST PLEASE!!
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:48:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:48:26 GMT-0600

In soc.culture.asean article <1992Dec16.061926.18270@penet.fi> you  
wrote:
> 

> this is test
> 

> 


Okay Mr.Anonymous! Please do not send any more test message here!
 

Thank you!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: nor@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Nor-Azlan Nordin)
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Organization: PSU Earth and Mineral Sciences
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:49:39 GMT

In article <KYTAN.92Dec14160958@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com> kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan) writes:

>This is a purely logical exercise for me: if Xanana was truly interested in
>spreading the word that the guerrillas should surrender, why not free him to
>spread the word personally to his people?  Why bother going through the easily
>forged method of writing letters?  Or even televised interviews?  (Remember the
>televised interviews of the US POWs in Vietname and Iraq?)  Unless, of course,
>that Xanana was really not of the surrendering inclination and was "coerced so
>severely" that letting his people see him would negate the whole idea that he
>had actually wanted to give up of his own free will.

And, logically, if Xanana is set free for the purpose of spreading the
word that the guerillas should surrender, I think he will be
assasinated/murdered/killed by his own people.  Why?  Cos' he betrayed
his former organization.  For 17 years he fought against the
Indonesian army and now he is against his former organization (that is
if he really changed his mind to be with the Indonesian govt.).
Otherwise, Xanana did have been "coerced" or "tortured".  

So, my conclusion is that nobody knows what is going on......

Xanana might be with the Indonesian with good faith  ----> bad news
for his former organization.  

or,

Xanana might be tortured brutally  ----->  a positive sign for the
guerillas.  Bad news for the Indonesian govt.

So, what the heck........


-Azlan Nordin-
  Penn State


>--
>===============================================================================
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>Merrill Lynch,			  	| Wherever they're sown,
>World Financial Center, North Tower, 	| Just I should be sought.
>New York, NY 10281-1315.	  	|		- K. Y. Tan, 5 Feb 1992
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: an3154@anon.penet.fi
Subject: test.. test.. t .a i .. test... test ..t a i ..
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.asean
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:52:48 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee)
Subject: Re: Zarina picture
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:29:13 GMT


Where is the picture??????
From: swkong@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Sieg Wooi Kong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Exams stresssssssssssss!!!!!!! (in malay)
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:04:59 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA



Sudah tiba masanya untuk saya berhadapan dengan masalah yang sekian lama
menunggu untuk menghancuri hidupku?

Peperiksaan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sejak dari darjah 6, saya mulai merasai kepahitan pelajaran. Di akhir 
setiap tahun saya memulakan "ritual" persiapan peperiksaan. Tidak tahu
samada saya akan berjaya atau gagal kali ini. Samada keluarga saya akan
memaafkan saya kalau saya mendapat gred merah. Samada "society" akan
menerima saya kalau terkandas. Samada saya perlu membawa petanduk yang
bertulis "I will work for food" di masa depan. Haiiiiiiiiii.

Mengapa hidup saya ini penuh kepahitan? Adakah diantara yang sedang
membaca ini memahami perasaan saya ini? Bukankah ianya ini seperti
sebilah pisau yang dicucuk kedalam badan? Sungguh pedih rasanya pepe-
riksaan?

Kepada yang telah membaca surat I ini, saya harap yang you faham sebab
I tulis surat ini...untuk melepaskan tension I. Kalau ada kesilapan
BM harap maafkan saya. Kalau ada yang rasa bahawa I sudah keterlaluan,
I memohon maaf dulu dan mengharapkan bahawa saudara atau saudari lupakan
surat ini.

Terima Kasih.

Kepada yang berugama Kristian,  SELAMAT MENYAMBUT HARI NATAL!
dan kepada yang lain, SELAMAT TAHUN BARU!!!!!!

     
MELVYN KONG
budak dari negeri yang menang Semi Pro M'sia, Pahang
anak dari KDU
penuntut OU      
anak M'sia
saya.

 
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean

Yes, there are torist guides around KL airport. However, the trip into the city will take about 2 hours due to the traffic jam. Try the museum and the city
center for the food.


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From: an2713@anon.penet.fi
Subject: this is test
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.asean
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:20:08 GMT

this is test

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: siong@fraser.sfu.ca (Siong Heng Chan)
Subject: Re: to anon.penet.fi
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:27:16 GMT


Hey you anon.penet.fi!!  You are being an IDIOT here.  And also a 
bloody pest!  If you have nothing better to do than to send tests to sca,
go get a life/go fly kites!!  

irritated,
siong
From: an113@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Confiscation of Malaysia passports on return...
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.asean
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:20:13 GMT

I've recently heard on the grapevine that Malaysian Immigration has
been confiscating a lot of passports from Malaysians returning from
overseas. From what I hear, its mainly from illegal workers returning
from Japan, Taiwan, and the US. They are supposed to have confiscated
over 15,000 passports already.

Does anyone have any first hand information on this. Is this across the
board? There are a lot of illegal workers in NYC who would be very
worried about making a trip home under these circumstances.

Sign me curious....
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From: elelko@nuscc.nus.sg (Free Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Sultan of Johor(repost from clari.news.politics)
Date: 11 Dec 92 01:32:48 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

cpc30248@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chopin) writes:

   [ .. deleted ]

: 	The current sultan, Mahmood Iskander Ibni Almarhum Sultan Ismail, 60,
: has been convicted several times of punishable crimes, including
           ^^^^^^^^^
: manslaughter.
: 
: -- 
:     Chong Chow Pin 
:     University of Illinois
:     email:  cpc30248@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  
:   

  excuse moir, but could you please clarify this statement ? i clearly
remember that in the m'sian federal constitution, the king or dymh yang
dipertuan agong, is 'exempted' from all legal actions. hope this incident
does not incite the involvement of any human rights movements. 

=========================================================================

Looi Kwok Onn
EE Dept,                              "Jim, I have no ego to satisfy",
National University of Singapore.      Spock.
elelko@nuscc.nus.sg

========================================================================
From: jtteh@borland.com (J.T. Teh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Email address for ITI
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:19:02 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Originator: jtteh@genghis.borland.com

Hi, does anyone have the email for ITI's Vax in Singapore?
It should be something like itivax.com.sg? or itivax.edu.sg?
Thanks.

- JT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ong@cs.columbia.edu (Jueychong Ong)
Subject: Earthquake in Indonesia - 1500+ dead
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:09:54 GMT

I just read reports from the AP Newswire and UPI that an earthquake
has occured around Nusa Tenggara province. The quake and resultant
tidal waves have killed 1,500+ (bodycount still rising) and left 40,000 
people homeless. The town of Maumere has apparently been devastated.

More details can be found in the clari.top.world newsgroup.


--jc
From: ck345@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wira Putra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:32:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Hi Rod Swift,

You mentioned in your last posting that Xanana under presure and 
could not speak freely.
Few questions, Rod ...

Are you there when Xanana interviewed by the reporters ?
How do you know and make sure that Xanana is under presure ?
Do you believe the reporters who were there wrote something that
can make news and can sell millions of their newspapers or magazines ?

Annoying the press ...

Few suggestions, Rod ...

If do not know or not sure ...
don't write something that can create bad things about yourself ...
or maybe you want that people in this newsgroup that read your post
will say ... Rod .. Rod .. It's amateur.  
I think you are not educated enough that can select what is your 
business or not.
Or maybe, you are puppet university !! he ... he ...

\/\/ira Putra ... ck345@cleveland.freenet.edu