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From: fox@rudolf.nscl.msu.edu (Ron Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Using SUN workstations with VAXen.
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:48:58 GMT
Reply-To: fox@rudolf.nscl.msu.edu (Ron Fox)
Organization: National Superconducting Cyclotron Lab.

--
  I have a SUN Sparcstation ELC and would like to use it
along with the tons of VAXen we have locally.  The VAXEN are running
VMS.  There are a couple of problems that I need to work around that
I'm sure someone out there has already dealt with:

1. Missing fonts for remote X-clients.  If I e.g. run a DECTERM
    from either a VAX or a DECstation, then there are messages
    from the client that it is unable to locate fonts (e.g. the
    menu font families).  Does anybody have a set of font alias
    files and instructions about what to do with them to
    make these messages go away?

2. Once I'm logged in to the VAXen, I'd like to use e.g. 
   the language sensitive editor (LSE)... or for that matter any
   of the other editors.  Does anybody have a mechanism to get
   the SUN keypad to look like a VT-100 keypad... yet not throw
   away arrow keys e.g. shift to get keypad functions, and unshifted
   to get arrow functions?

  My environment is:
Sparcstation ELC, type-4 keyboard, Open look version 2.
  Since I'm a bit behind on newsgroups, could you please mail me?
If there is interest, I will summarize to the net.
	Thanks,
	Ron
Ron Fox                     | FOX@MSUNSCL.BITNET      | Where the name 
NSCL                        | FOX@RUDOLF.NSCL.MSU.EDU | goes on before
Michigan State University   | MSUHEP::RUDOLF::FOX     | the quality
East Lansing, MI 48824-1321 |                         | goes in.
USA
From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Ultrix 4.2a on CD-ROM	NOT!
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:17:21 GMT
Organization: CS

In article <1992Apr15.055232.14113@athena.mit.edu> ankleand@mtl.mit.edu (Andrew Karanicolas) writes:
>Greetings,
>
>I have some questions about Ultrix 4.2a:
>
>(1) Does anyone know for sure whether Ultrix 4.2a is available on CD-ROM?

Yes, just did 3 installs from a CDROM onto 5000 series machines in the last
couple of weeks.

Sorry, I don't know the answer to your other questions...  I usually find
that I don't like the standard disk partitioning scheme, and prefer to 
customize based on my past experience with the usage of the machines, so
I personally would never choose factory installed software...
-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@{cs,coe}.montana.edu
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: uVII Cust Diags Tape Needed
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:07:52 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Apr15.101333.220@cutler>, michael@cutler.com (Michael D. Shields) writes:
> We've got an RD53 (don't laugh too hard) that is in the process of flaking
> out.  At this point, it's occasionally replacing bad blocks at multiple
> locations on the disk.  I'd like to try reformatting the drive in an
> attempt to bring it back online.  Yah, yah, I know it's 67MB is
> dwarfed by our 1.34GB drives, but we can use the space.

  Are you in a BA123? Have you installed the RD53 FCO that replaces the cable
between the RQDXn and the M9058 signal distribution board with a shielded one?
If not, that it probably the cause of your problem, and a reformat won't help
permanently - the problem will come back.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
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From: amf@amfent.Gwinnett.COM (Andy Feibus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: tps benchmarks for VAX 3900
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:36:49 GMT

> On 6 Apr 92 16:56:42 GMT, mdchaney@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) s
> > Does anyone have the TPPC results for a VAX 3900.  I'm particularly
> > interested in the tpsA-Local.
> No, there are no TPC-A results announced on the VAX 3900. Nor are they likely
> to be announced. The closest machine that DEC has annouced TPC-A results for 
> the MV 3100-30, which is 21.6 tpsA-local (@$8.6K/tps). 3900 is rated at aroun
> 4 vups, while the 3100-30 is rated at around 5 vups. You make the final
> extrapolation. 
Arrgg!  Bad advice, Amitabh.

You cannot extrapolate TPC-A numbers for one system by using another
system.  He'll have just as much luck trying to extrapolate TPC-A numbers
for the 3100-30 by using a different DBMS.  Or an RS-6000.  It just doesn't 
work that way.

Sorry to be so jumpy about it.  Just one of my pet peeves.

-- Andy.
andyfe@utoday.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
From: x90farleigh1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: PathWorks NETTIME Question...
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:07:41 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Does anyone have info as to how the server for PathWorks NETTIME is set up.

 I have a PathWOrks 4.1 server, with a Pathworks 4.0 server also available...

When I issue a "NETTIME<cr>" command, the 4.0 server responds. However,
if I take the 4.0 server offline, the 4.1 server does not respond *unless*
I specifically designate it's name ("NETTIME <SERVERNAME>"), as it then
responds appropriately...

Is there some DECnet object, or some system parameter that needs to be defined ?



Thanks!
 
            Fred Farleigh
 
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From: mcdowell@exloghou.exlog.com (Steve McDowell)
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Organization: Exploration Logging, Inc.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:11:55 GMT

In message <261@sleepy.UUCP> allyn@sleepy.UUCP (Mark Allyn) writes: 
>> FLAMING EXCREMENT they are. Their software is a damned nightmare to install,
>
> What happened with your Oracle installation?
>
> I've installed and administered two large Oracle databases on Sun equipment.
> Both installations went smoothly and I have few problems keeping the
> respective databases up.

You were *extremely* lucky that you were doing a (presumably) vanilla 
install..

I've installed Oracle on several machines (with a previous employer) and 
have faced the downright irritating install process, including inexcusable
broken Makefiles. 

If you're going to sell software to Unix people, make sure everything works under
Unix -- and that, I think, is the point Peter was trying to make in his 
post.

I will say, though, that once Oracle works (which *can* take a while), it
is a terribly fine database engine. 

-- 
Steve McDowell             . . . . o o o o o 		Opinions are 
Exlog, Inc.	                  _____      o     	mine, not my 
mcdowell@exlog.com      _____====  ]OO|_n_n__][.    	employers..
		       [_________]_|__|________)<   
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From: Roberto@sunsci.cern.ch (Roberto Divia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Using SUN workstations with VAXen.
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:17:44 GMT
Organization: CERN

In article <1992Apr13.124858.27726@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, fox@rudolf.nscl.msu.edu (Ron Fox) writes:
> [ about using an ELC client with VMS servers ]
> 1. Missing fonts for remote X-clients.  If I e.g. run a DECTERM
>     from either a VAX or a DECstation, then there are messages
>     from the client that it is unable to locate fonts (e.g. the
>     menu font families).  Does anybody have a set of font alias
>     files and instructions about what to do with them to
>     make these messages go away?

Take the VMS file SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.DECW]FONTS.ALIAS in the
fonts directory on the ELC. It will convert almost all the fancy VMS
fonts into standard X11 ones. Just copy it as fonts.alias (in $FONTPATH)
and restart your server (or xset fp default).

> 2. Once I'm logged in to the VAXen, I'd like to use e.g. 
>    the language sensitive editor (LSE)... or for that matter any
>    of the other editors.  Does anybody have a mechanism to get
>    the SUN keypad to look like a VT-100 keypad... yet not throw
>    away arrow keys e.g. shift to get keypad functions, and unshifted
>    to get arrow functions?

No, but you can use LSE/INTERFACE=DECW. This will enable the mouse + the
menu bar. If someone can tell me how to enable the numeric keypad, it'll
be very appreciated.

-- 
|   Roberto Divia`      | Love at  first sight  is one of the greatest |
|   =============       | labor-saving devices the world has ever seen |
|  CERN :  European Laboratory for Particle Physics,  1211  Geneva  23 |
|  Switzerland (CH)                                                    |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: DEC system jokes
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 11 APR 92 18:13:24    

In article <926@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com>, bill@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com (Bill Pechter) writes...
>The same feature existed in VAX/VMS through 3.5 (probably through 4.2 when I
>stopped working with it... but I know it was in 3.5)

>The neat thing is it was the only way I could get into VMS when I wrote the
>login.com from hell.

>Username: pechter/cli=mcr
>Password: password

>MCR>


>I miss that feature today...

It still works in VMS V5.5...

You need VAX RSX for CLI=MCR to work, though.

-Mike
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From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
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Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:47:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: alphalph.1992Apr6.034739.28093
Organization: none

In article <ADAMS.92Apr1235516@PDV2.pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de> adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams) writes:
>Most customers I know of run their own electronic and mechanical
>workshop to repair their own equipment. In a comparable manner they
That is *not* the typical commercial customer by a long shot.
That's not even the typical technical customer for workstations.
If you restrict your market to a small enough customer base you
can say that *anthing* will survive.  I'm sure there are still
people using CPM.  But that's not the kind of survival that most
of us are depending on.

-- 
Alfalfa Software, Inc.          |       Poste:  The EMail for Unix
nazgul@alfalfa.com              |       Send Anything... Anywhere
617/497-2922                    |       info@alfalfa.com

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
From: brada@bardlover.Eng.Sun.COM (Brad Albom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re... Q-bus *SMD* interface for PDP/MicroVax.
Keywords: Disks for sale too ...
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:58:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bardlover

Tim Thompson writes ...

>The following Q-Bus controllers are for sale -
>
>Emulex SC03-BXC, SC03-BXG
 ...
>Some popular drives supported are:
>
>Fujitsu 2351A (Eagle,) 2312, 2322, CDC 9762, 9766, 9715-340,
>                                   CDC 9760, 9771, 9730-160,

If anyone is interested in SMD disk drives to go along with
these controllers,  my company has a few in varying sizes that
will work just fine.

Fujitsu 2351 (Eagles)  ~454 Meg, 14" ... $395 ea (have 6)
Fujitsu 2312           ~ 84 Meg,  8" ... $225 ea (have 3 or 4)
Fujitsu 2284           ~168 Meg, 14" ... $275 ea (1 Only)

Prices do not include shipping. 
All drives guaranteed for 90 days.

-brad albom
Software Engineering Solutions, Inc (Not related to Sun Micro)
Office: (415) 969-0141    - Probably get a secretary
FAX   : (415) 961-3050    - Probably get a high pitched tone
email : brada@eng.sun.com - Best Bet (In On Random Weekdays)
From: chull@lookout.uswest.com (Chris Hull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: 3287 printer emulator problems
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:44:59 GMT
Organization: US WEST Communications

I am having problems with a 3287 printer emulator (xpe3287) from SSI.
The emulator works fine on my bisync lines but when I try to run
it on my sna lines, it will not start up correctly.  All of my host
applications on the mainframe side are genned for a printer on the
last LU.  The last LU on the bisync side is 31 (1F)hex. The last LU
on the sna side is 65 (41)hex. My problem is that 
in /usr/COMM/adm/3270 where I have my configuration files (bsc.pc and
sna.pc) anytime I put in a device id greater than 31 I receive the
error: power on reject - invalid host identification.
When I put in a device ID under 31, I am able to start the emulator
but I cannot print.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Why do I get this error when I do my start3287?
2. When I do a start3287 with a device ID under 31, why will print
not work? 

I have been in contact with the folks on the mainframe side and
they swear that the gens are correct. Can anybody out there tell me what
I am doing wrong???  For background info I am running a DEC 3360 with 2
systech comm boards installed. My software level is 4.52. 

Thanks in advance, Chris
From: sarff@gsrc.enet.dec.com (Kent Sarff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: VMS 5.5/POSIX
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:16:26 GMT
Reply-To: sarff@gsrc.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO



>We are looking into moving our DEC System 5500 users to a 6610 running
>VMS 5.5 which I understand includes a POSIX kernel.  I would like to find out
>what functionality the current UNIX users are going to lose (if any) running
>under VMS 5.5 with the UNIX-like (or POSIX) shell.

Remember, Unix does not mean POSIX. There are many Unix systems that are not POSIX compliant.

The software which makes VMS POSIX compliant is a VMS layered product.  It provides 1003.* interfaces/services/utilities as an addition to VMS interfaces/services/utilities.  An application written on a VMS system where the POSIX layered product is installed can be written/ported in three ways:

  1) VMS compliant
  2) VMS and POSIX compliant
  3) POSIX compliant

The degree to which your application is POSIX compliant determines the degree of porting difficulty. 100% compliant applications will port easily.

Accordingly, your shell scripts should run fine if they are POSIX (1003.2) compliant.

>The current production application is written in C, but I'm unsure of the
>compatibility between an Ultrix system and the VMS environment. It seems
>to me that the Ultrix ".exe" executable does not run in the VMS environment.

U*ix images will not run on a VMS system. The image formats are incompatable due to fundamental differences in how images are activated. 

FWIW, 1003.1 provides the operating system services interface, 1003.2 provides a shell and utilities interface, and 1003.4 provides the realtime extentions interface. 

Your source code will port fairly easily if it is POSIX compliant.  You will have to compile and link it on a VMS system.
--
            Kent Sarff
      sarff@gsrc.enet.dec.com 
          (719) 260-2571
     Digital - Colo. Spgs., CO
Digital is blameless for my rambling 
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:22:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.190000.23149@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> vsnyder@math.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder) writes:
> Sure, my PC crashes more frequently than my Unix box, but when it does, it
> only takes 15 seconds to reboot, not 15 minutes.  I'm willing to put up with
> that to have a REALLY GOOD editor (brief or sage or ...) that I can afford
> ($250 or less), a REALLY GOOD word processor (WordPerfect 5.1 or Word or ...)
> that I can afford (~$500), a REALLY GOOD Fortran development system with a
> REALLY FAST compiler and REALLY GOOD debugger that knows Fortran, not just C
> (Lahey), a REALLY GOOD spread sheet, data base, ...

[rest deleted]

Thank you. That's *exactly* my point.

> Maybe when YOUR workstation breaks some network related thing your Unix
> tells you more obviously what is going on. [sendmail horror story deleted]

Well, I tend to rip out complex crap like sendmail and stick simple stuff like
smail in instead. With a PC, I generally reinstall the software if anything
goes worng. At least it teaches me to be rel anal about writing down config
parameters. :->
-- 
-- Peter da Silva,  Ferranti International Controls Corporation
-- Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012;  +1 713 274 5180
-- "Have you hugged your wolf today?"
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From: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Questions about DECWindows under VMS
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:46:14 GMT
Reply-To: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Apr8.113011.23572@descartes.waterloo.edu>, wjbaird@descartes.waterloo.edu (Warren Baird) writes:
|>
|>1)  The information that I've seen implies that DECWindows under VMS is
|>an X11 varient, but I haven't been able to find the relationship
|>between various versions of DECWindows and the releases of X11.  Is
|>there an easy way to tell whether a version of DECWindows is X11R3 or
|>X11R4?
|>

VMS DECwindows started out as an X11R3 implementation.  The latest
VMS DECwindows Motif is an X11R4 implementation.  Obviously, we're working
on R5.


|>2) Is VMS DECWindows a full X11 distribution?  Does it support all of
|>the XLib toolkit?  Are there any other toolkits that are always
|>included?
|>

The entire Xtoolkit an Xlib are included along with language bindings 
for C, fortran, Pascal, Ada, Basic, Macro and BLISS (and probably
others that I forgot)

|>3) Is there any easy way for X programs running under VMS (with the
|>DECNet protocol, I suppose) to communicate with X servers running under
|>Unix? (either Ultrix or otherwise)
|>

the transport is the key.  DECnet is the default transport, but we also
support the TCP/IP transport.  Depending on what's on the other end of 
the wire, you can use either

|>4) Are there any special issues that have to be addressed in porting an
|>XLib-based program from Unix to VMS?
|>
Not really.  Some of your C include statements will be different and file
specifications different, but that's about it.  Much of the stuff that
we do at DEC is common source between Ultrix and VMS
--


William M. Jackson
Workstation Product Marketing Manager
Workstation Engineering
Digital Equipment Corporation
146 Main Street
Maynard, MA 01754

Mail:	Jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com
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From: lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall)
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Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:18:28 GMT
Organization: NetLabs, Inc.

In article <3378@pacificrand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
: PERL is the Swiss Army knife of UNIX filters.  (This isn't intended
: entirely as a complement...)

Sniff.  Sniff.  Sniffle.  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

Larry
From: cepek@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: TECO .  I need to know more about it.
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:52:31 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

>      Trouble is, it seems we have no manuals left.  The blasted Gray 
>    Wall in the DCL manual pg 162 says "see the PDP TECO manual".  What
>    a tick-off!
> 
>      Does anyone out there have some TECO documentation they could
>    mail me?

DEC does.

At the risk of sounding like a DIGITAL advertisement (again):

	PDP-11 TECO User's Guide
	Order (part) number: AA-K420B-TC
	US$14.00, 1-2 week availablility (?)

	In the U.S., call 1-800-DIGITAL, or write to
		DIGITAL
		P.O. Box CS2008
		Nashua, NH  03061
	VISA, MC ok (that's what he said!)

	In Canada, call 1-800-267-6215 (that's 1-800-BORPA-15 :-)
		(I don't have an address)

I had them on the phone just now for a very similar question.  G'luck.

 ,--------------------------------,___________________________
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\  Management Graphics, Inc.     \ Operator: +1 612/854-1220 \ "Engage."
/  1401 East 79th Street         / Desk/VMail:      851-6112 /
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From: CONSLT24@Zeus.unomaha.edu (Issa El-Hazin)
Subject: Need to know how to fflush(stdin) in VMS C.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:23:10 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

Does anybody know how to flush the stdin in VMS 'C'? I'm using the system();
function to run a command and would like to flush any key(s) the user might
press while waiting for the command to complete (esp. since the system(); call
takes a long time to spawn and run if there are too many people on the system
(Is there a faster alternative to using the system() call? I'm using VMS 5.4.3)
Also if anybody knows how to disable the Ctrl-Y  from within a 'C' program I 
would be greatly appreciative. I'm modifying a VMS menu program (5000 lines) 
that I've wrote and if anybody is interested in running it they can do so by 
telneting to zeus.unomaha.edu and login as a guest then typing "window" at 
the $. The program is located in perm$5:[conslt24.public]. Please feel free 
to use or to get a copy of it. Back to my question I'm doing something similar 
to the next program and I can't figure out why it's not working.


#include <stdio.h>

main()
{

char test;
int array[10];

	printf("\n Type a letter: ");
	scanf("%c",&test);	/* wait until I'm ready		      */

	sleep(5);		/* while waiting for 5 seconds        */
				/* Type a string and press <enter>    */

	fflush(stdin);		/* flush standard input (keyboard)   */

	scanf("%s",&array);	/* read what's in the input buffer    */

	printf("\n%s",array);	/* will print the string typed before */
				/* flushing the stdin		      */
}


Any suggestions are welcomed and are greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

/-Issa-/

(P.S. I'm not using scanf() to read the input, instead I'm using a function
      called keypress() which will grap a char pressed without having to press
      the enter key (arrow keys, F? keys ..), but I've tried the above program
      both ways and it still don't work. I know RMS has its own buffers but
      I can't find an example on how to do my requested task. fflush is 
      returning a '0' which indicates that the operation is successful)