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From: lindaman4833@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Overrated List Revision
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:00:08 -0500
Summary: Megadeth off, Sinead O'Conner on
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

THIS IS A SPECIAL REPORT...Tom Lindaman has made a mistake on his list of the
ten most overrated bands/artists of all time.  Originally, Megadeth was placed
in the number 9 slot.  However, the judges have conferred and have taken
Megadeth off the list entirely.  The new ninth most overrated band/artist of
all time is . . .

                        SINEAD O'CONNER (sp)

The judges released the following statement:

In the course of human events, people often feel the need to rise up and take
arms against their oppressors, and Shinehead O'Whiner is one such person. 
Unfortunately for the music-listening public, she has chosen to sing about her
oppression.  You're right Sinead, nothing compares to you. . . because nothing
is as BAD as you are.  She did a remake of Elton John's "Sacrifice" for the
"Two Rooms" album.  A really bad remake.  The best thing she's done in the
past year or so is return to Ireland with the help of Hammer's check.  Frank
Sinatra was right about Sinead O'Conner.  If she doesn't like it over here,
then she should go back to Ireland and take her soulless, emotionless, and most
of all pointless music with her.

To repeat, Sinead O'Conner is the new ninth most overrated band/artist of all
time on Tom Lindaman's list.  We now return you to your regularly scheduled
newsnet.
From: rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: CD packaging
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:58:08 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research


Some of the big record companies have subsiduaries who do printing and
assembly of cardboard packaging, hence they don't want to get rid of
the ridiculous long boxes. When pressed they suggested a few
alternatives which use more materials than jewel case and long box
combined, wear out quickly and hence cause more rubbish. After much
dragging of heals they do finally seem to be catching up with the rest
of the world where CDs have been sold in just the jewel case all the
time.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: thane@bluemoon.rn.com (Aron Gamman)
Subject: Re: rush trivia tidbits
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 20:57:37 EDT

lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh) writes:

> Can someone tell me who does the rap on RTB?
 
Geddy Lee does the rap on the song, "Roll the Bones".
 
The reason it doesn't sound like Geddy is because his voice is processed 
to sound so low.
 
This is what Neil Peart said when he was asked in a interview on 
"Rockline".

 This is from
     thane@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll:9689 rec.music.misc:14171
From: v056rcrx@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Chuck, the Fencing God)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: YESYEARS Question
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:37:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr3.164826.13410@midway.uchicago.edu>, djb6@midway.uchicago.edu writes...
>>
>>2) It's well known that Howe (and Bruford, Wakeman, Levin) had little
>>   or no control over the UNION album, maybe this was Howe's attempt at
>>   reclaiming his guitar lines.
>>
>>-Brian
>>
> 
>I seem to recall an interview with Rick Wakeman (was it _Rolling_Stone?)
>in which he complained about how the album was overproduced.  Who is this
>Jon Elias person anyway and how much damage did he do?  I thought ABWH was
>supposed to be a four-sided band with no dominant frontman.  Did Anderson
>sieze control?  If it's all politics I might lose respect for the little guy.
>-Dennis

All i know is that Wakeman complained that the new Yes (Rabin-era) producers
not only OVERPRODUCED, but went as far as to digitally change the actual 
notes and instruments that Wakeman had already recorded!!!!

Though UNION did not particularly impress me, I can say without hesitation 
that the earlier ANDERSON, BRUFORD, WAKEMAN, & HOWE album is much more
impressive and representative of true, progressive YES than any of the 
Squire-esque "Yes" albums  (i.e. BIG GENERATOR, 90125)...

I can also say thatI saw both the UNION tour, and the A,B,W,H tour 
...guess which was FAR better?

On a final note....Rabin CAN sing, but his guitar parts are VERY run-of-the-mill
and cliched, and whereas Squire is a founding father of progressive/hard-rock
bass guitar, Tony Levin is VERY talented, and his Stick playing is FANTASTIC!!!

                Chuck "Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe are GODS" Farnsworth

P.S.- Check out DISCIPLINE by KING CRIMSON (Bruford on drums, Levin on Stick)
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: EVER heard of 'Strawbs'???
Keywords: Strawbs
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:27:59 GMT
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY

In article <dano.703493441@nasa08.cacs.usl.edu> dano@usl.edu (Dan Stephenson) writes:
>I borrowed a tape of a friend's old record (whew!) of a 60's
>hippie-type band called 'Strawbs', and well, I love it.
>
>The album name a _Grave New World_.
>
>I am really inteested in finding a place to get more of their music.
>If you have ANY information at all, please e-mail me.

Ah. Dave Cousins and company. Expect a LOT of mail on this one.
Most of the catalog is available on CD on Canadian and Japanese associates
of the A&M label. Some recommended albums:

	Grave New World
	From The Witchwood
	Hero and Heroine
	Just A Collection of Curios...


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Organization: The Undead
X-Subliminal-Message: Memory is Divine Punishment
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 10:07:48 EDT
From: Ponte <MDP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: David Gilmour's 1978 solo album

     In reference to Dave Gilmour's "Dave Gilmour"I found it VERY good... I
didn't think he was too good with the lyrics (although they were still better
than a good 80% of the other shit around, IMO) but his musical skill shined
through, and it might be of interest that the guitar solo for Comfortably
Numb was originally written for this album, if I remember correctly.  On
a scale from 1 through 10 I'd probably give it an 8.5 or 9.

        ---> Ponte
                                "No one will hurt me again
                                 No one will cause me to lie
                                 No one control me by pain
                                 No one will cause me to cry"

                                    Dave Gilmour
From: narpet@cs.mcgill.ca (Greg WARD)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Suggest Metallica for a novice
Keywords: Metallica
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:23:29 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <sf69jINNf9q@hilbert.math.ksu.edu> maginnis@math.ksu.edu (John Maginnis) writes:
>My favorite music is sixties rock, but some Deadheads have suggested
>that I listen to Metallica.  Can anyone recommend a CD that would be
>a good introduction to their music?

Get *Master of Puppets* or *Ride the Lightning*.  Puppets is an absolute
masterpiece; with any luck it'll blow you away.   If you have the
volume set "correctly", it should blow you away *literally*.  Even now,
nearly five years after I first heard this album, the incredible,
unstoppable, smash-you-in-the-face, unrelenting POWER of it still
blows me away.  *Lightning* is somewhat similar, although a few of the
songs (`Fight Fire with Fire' in particular) are a little weak,
whereas *Puppets* is the ultimate speed metal album in every respect.
On second thought, the presence of `Fade to Black' and `Creeping
Death' on RtL make up for any weaknesses.  What the hell, get 'em both.

As for their more recent stuff (*...And Justice for All*, *Metallica*)
-- good but not great.

>		Thanks!

Yer welcome.

		Greg Ward (narpet@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca)
From: young@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Geddy Lee's real name
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:10:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr16.181034.12485
Reply-To: young@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <1992Apr15.191443.10817@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Duner) writes:

>  Just wondering if anyone heard the same thing.  I heard that Geddy's real
>  name is Gary.  Since his mother had an accent, the r's would sound like d's.
>  I guess he got use to it or his friends started calling him Geddy.  I guess
>  his last name is the same.  Again, I heard this, so does anybody know I'm
>  wrong or something?
>
>  I would like to know.
>
>

I've heard this too.  Apparently his given name is Gary Leibowitz.  His
grandmother, who had a relatively thick Eastern European accent, pronounced
"Gary" as "Geddy".  I assume that the shortening of "Leibowitz" to "Lee" was
the doing of some head honcho at Mercury Records who figured that downplaying
Geddy's ethnic background would make the group more salable (?!).  Especially
considering that the wildness then inherent in Geddy's vocals was somewhat of a
sticking point with the corporate types.

-Bruce
Organization: Mindcrime
X-Subliminal-Message: Marhefkasnot!
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:25:00 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard in Time

In article <1992Apr14.235038.17535@seas.gwu.edu>, maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple
Moriji) says:
>
>I just found a little article about Def Leppard in Time:
>
>"DO YOU WANNA GET ROCKED?" shouts DEF LEPPARD on its new album,
>Adrenalize (Mercury).  The answer, judging by the way the record
>has beaten Springsteen to the top spot on the pop charts, is a
>thunderous yes.  The British band offers its trademark formula:

>End of Time article
>
>Is this bunch of bullshit or what!?!

>Maple

While I must agree with Maple here, I have no wish to start a flame war.
(I'll just sit back and watch his.)

But what I wanna know is, why does everyone say a band is great because
they've sold 8 zillion albums, or rocketed to the top of the pop charts
past Springsteen?  Hell, most of the garbage in the top 40 is horrible
if you ask me.  Just cause a band sells a lot of albums doesn't mean that
they are good.  It means that MTV has brainwashed most of america into
buying it through massive overplay.

 Sime

 "If there's a new way,
  I'll be the first in line"        "Now there is a school that
                                     self-destructed not because
 "A couple grains of powder,         society didn't care, but
  A couple grams of lead,            because the school _was_
  A touch against the trigger,       society.  Pretty deep, huh?"
  A touch inside your head"                   -J.D.
         -Megadeth                             in "Heathers"
From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Performers who can't hear
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:04:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1992Apr11.190411.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <92102.005632BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>, BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> In article <1992Apr11.001720.15465@news.larc.nasa.gov>,
> bandwen@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (bando) says:
> 
>>Is it true that Alex Van Halen is 90% deaf in one ear or something like
>>that?  I know Pete Toownshend has lost a significant amount of hearing
>>also.  How do these performers keep their "musical ear" when they've
>>played live for so long and at such a high decible level without any
>>protection?--Just curious
>>--Bando
> 
> I know that "Sweaty" Teddy Nugent also falls into this category...
> I have also heard this is true for Townsend...
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> :   Brian K. Chopp           "AC/DC---High Voltage Rock-N-Roll!!!"   :
> :   BKC100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU     =====================================   :
> :   Penn State "Mass Education At Its Finest" University...          :
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Townshend is pretty well known for his aid to hearing loss prevention
agencies as he has lost the majority of his hearing and often resorts to
hearing aids when he is not performing... when I saw the Who on their reunion
he actually had a glass box/cage which was soundproofed and he would go in
their and play their loudest numbers... of course thaty is what you get for
being one of the most amplified guitarists for so long!

Nugent also has had problems whih he talked about in an interview somewhere...
Alex Van Halen is almost deaf in one ear, but I think that was since
childhood?

Most performers I have ever seen (and me when I play for a group) wear
earplugs of some kind or, like Nugent generally does, work very hard on their
cabinet and monitor placement...

-- 
 __________________________________________________________
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|__________________________________________________________|___
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|  fscll@acad3.alaska.edu      |  us without any barbarians?   |
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From: Daniel.S.Richman@dartmouth.edu (Daniel S. Richman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Let's get rocked
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:39:49 GMT
 <1992Apr10.170817.24510@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> 
 <92101.161212TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>  
 <1992Apr11.201209.18926@nevada.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Apr11.201209.18926@nevada.edu>
jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender) writes:

> 
> 	That still put Phil one ahead of you. Do you even play guitar? Have
> you ever even seen a piece of Def Lep. sheet music? You should watch what you
> say about subjects you know nothing about.


Yup.  In fact, hearing suaron's "enlightening comments" on this further
prove to me that he knows absolutely nothing about music.  And once
again, 
PHIL COLLEN BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF KERRY KING.  (Kerry King is one of
Slayer's guitarists,btw, for all of you who may not know that)

This statement is not an opinion--it's fact from a guitar player who's
heard BOTH Collen and King several times.

So, Suaron, stay in rnr.metal, OK?


                                                              Dan


              GO BIG GREEN BASBALL
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: giant@next19pg2.wam.umd.edu (ShadowKing)
Subject: Let's get rocked
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:59:18 GMT

In article <92100.235837TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>  
writes:
> Well after here the song Let's get rocked I came up with far superior
> lyrics.  Enjoy..
> 
> let's get, let's get, let's get some new lyrics
> let's get, let's get, let's get some new riffs
> let's get, let's get, let's get a new guitar player (who's alive)
> let's get, let's get, let's get a the drummer a new arm
> 
> Just think of how many people would go around bummed out in life
> if they didn't remake hysteria!   Its lucky they had those riffs
> and lyrics still programmed into the synthesizers cause they probably
> wouldn't have come out with a new album so soon after Hysteria.
> 
> I'd have rewritten more of the lyrics but I'm trying to forget
> the entire song...
> 
> --the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
> Suaron


Why don't you stay on alt.rock-n-roll.metal where you
belong asshole.  Get a life.



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From: Sasquatch@p4.f851.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Sasquatch)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: chit chat
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:03:02 GMT

how about a change of subjects ?

1. I just listened to Stairway to heaven backwards on a four track
recorder....
   couldn't find a single referance to satan or evil or any thing but   
backwards lyrics, what was I supposed to find ?
   I also listend to Kiss,Kiss,Kiss by (yuck) yoko ono on the double fantasy
   album by (yahoo) john lennon, and in the beginning of the song I "heard"
   (backwards of course) " I shot john lennon".
   Any one know of any others I could chek out.

2. Meatloaf is working on a new album with Jim Steinman the genius who wrote
   for the Bat out of hell album. any one know when it will be released ?

3. A sorrowfull goodbye to Sam Kinnison.....

4. MTV has too many commercials.

5. (insert your subject for discussion here)



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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Subject: RE: Aerosmith
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 15 Apr 1992 10:02 EST  

In article <1992Apr14.113213.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsrhd@acad3.alaska.edu writes...
> 
> 
>	Here is a list of the current Aerosmith domestic titles that are
>available on CD (* indicates personal favorites);
> 
>1.  Aerosmith *
>2.  Get Your Wings *
>3.  Toys In The Attic **
>4.  Rocks **
>5.  Draw The Line
>6.  Night In The Ruts
>7.  Done With Mirrors
>8.  Permanent Vacation
>9.  Joe Perry Project - Let The Music Do The Talking
>10. JPP - I've Got The Rock And Rolls Again
>11. Air America Soundtrack

I think #11 has their version of "Love Me Two Times"

>12. Below Zero (can't exactly recall correct title) soundtrack

This is called Less Than Zero, and has the tune "Rockin' Pneamonia (sp) and 
the Boogie Woogie Flu (Remake)

13. Live Bootleg (not a domestic release - on single or double CD) *
>14. Rock In A Hard Place
> 
>	These CD titles are in no particular order.

Also available is the 3-CD Box set "Pandora's Box", as well as the 
compilations:

Greatest Hits
"Gems"
Classics Live I
Classics Live II

Also available on the blasphemous (!) Sgt. Pepper Soundtrack is their 
version of "Come Together"


Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 10:49:51 EDT
From: Udo <MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: lyrics FTP

cs.uwp.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: alt.music.rush
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:55:30 GMT


>>16. Syrinx  (rare)
>
>This is another bootleg that the CD store by my dorm carries. Again, they have
>it in regularly and I don't really think it's rare.

	What is on this bootleg? How much is it?

				
From:     		jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson)
Subject: Re: Pearl Jam on SNL
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 21:10:23 EDT
Organization: Lost Tribes of Gazebo
Summary: Fishin' with Eddie "Who's that behind those Roland Martins?" Vedder
Distribution: na
Keywords: Rock'n'Game Magazine Special Feeshin' Issue

                             READER MAIL

Jessica Somebody, of Nowheresville, New Jersey, writes in:

>Vedder has been
>quoted to say that he writes socially important songs.  From the interviews
>I have heard with him, and when I saw them he does not want to get too big, in
>fact he enjoys small jigs, etc.  

Thank you for raising this important topic, Jessica.

I agree, small jigs are best for, say, walleye, early in the season
when they're not too active yet, or when they're lying in deep water.
But I think all the truly *major* rock stars still prefer to go with a
good old Little Cleo (endorsed by Aerosmith) or maybe a Rapala (the
favorite lure of Hanoi Rocks).  Axl Rose has been known to exhibit a
preference for a Daredevle, especially for hot inland-lake bass action
where you've got to drop your lure right into your spot or risk
snagging it.  Axl claims he casts farther and more accurately with a
Daredevle than with any other lure.  In fact, he pulled out some
lunkers at the first MTV Celebrity fish weigh-in last year with one of
those red-and-white striped pieces of scrap iron, and might have won
if he hadn't started three hours late.  Of course, many rockers prefer
old fashioned crawlers, some on a bobber (Bruce Springsteen), some not
(Keith Richards injects air into his, using one of his old syringes).
So while Eddie Vedder may like small jigs, let's hope that all those
young up-and-coming rockers of tomorrow realize that there are a *lot*
of ways to fish!

--
       Rod Johnson  *  rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu  *  (313) 764-3103

        "Sand will not make you a very thrilling overcoat"
                                          --Kenneth Koch
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: terryj@apricot.csil.sfu.ca (Terry Olan Jones)
Subject: Re: "Wierd Al" (was: Lola Request)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:33:01 GMT

	Apparently, according to New & Upcoming Release, Weird Al will have a  
new album out soon. It would be really cool if he did one of his Polka things  
using heavy metal lyrics, but we'll see...

I want to be your hog. I want to be your hog now baby.

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