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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:05:27 GMT

<1992Sep15.000312.19385@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
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Organization: UMCC

In article <1992Sep15.000312.19385@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.ac
s.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>Steve Phillips writes:
>>According to Coach Moeller, the captains said "We want the ball and that
>>[pointing] goal."  Curiously, the referee did not hear the part about wanting
>>the ball, and awarded the choice of goal, giving ND the option to receive,
>>which they did.  Draw your own conclusions...
>
>In my understanding, the winner of the toss can choose one of the following
>three (not two of the following three):
>
>     1) receive the ball
>     2) choose an end of the field to defend
>     3) kick the ball
>
>If coach Moeller is correct in what he was saying, then he should also take
>responsibility for not teaching his players the rules of the game.  That kind
>of mistake is inexcusable.
>- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
 
Here's the story direct from UM's Michigan Daily sports 
section, September 14, 1992.
---------------------
Michigan botched up what is usually one of football's easiest plays--the 
coin toss.  Moeller sent out his three team captains--Grbac, Brown and 
Chris Hutchinson--for the toss.  Notre Dame won the toss and deferred 
its coice to the second half.  Michigan then chose to defend the south 
goal and kickoff in the first half.  Notre Dame then chose to receive 
in the second half and started both halves with the ball. 
"I told them that the wind and sun meant a lot," Moeller said.  "I 
said, 'If we win the toss, defer and dend the south goal.  If they win 
the toss, take the ball.'  But I told them if (Notre Dame) won the toss 
they would want to start on offense and we should defend the south goal.  
I'm the head coach.  I've got to take that blunder.  It makes some 
difference, but not that much." 
----------------------
At least Mo owns up to it.

 
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Steve Johnston                                Go Blue!
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From: gt2862c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2862c THAM,JEFF C)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Why so many Va Tech woofers?
Date: 5 Sep 92 03:58:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Speaking of Va Tech, anybody know if Eugene Chung is the first Asian to play
in the NFL?

Jeff


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From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (The Pickle)
Subject: Tulsa - Texas A&M: A&M's toughest challenge?
Keywords: texas A&m Tulsa
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:21:00 GMT

This saturday #28 Tulsa journeys to College Station to take on the #7 
Aggies in a rematch of A&M's only regular-season loss last year. Tulsa
looked impressive in their debut, and the Aggies played very effectively 
against LSU.
Considering who A&M has to play this year, this may just be the difference
between a Nat'l Title game in Dallas and a Tulsa-Colorado/OKlahoma/Nebraska
matchup in the Orange Bowl. This is the game with MNC implications that the 
media isn't latching onto. (sorta like how the idiot Eastern media didn't 
figure out Barry Sanders until the Oklahoma game - meanwhile they were 
covering Rodney Peete and Troy Aikman as if they were gods...)


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From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Virginia Tech
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:11:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.021756.29350@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) writes:
>
>One other thing...  Haven't you guys figured it out yet? 
>It isn't UVa...
>
>	It's  UVA!!!

Before Welsh got to Virginia, it was ALWAYS written as "UVa." When
Welsh got there, he even had "UVa" put on the sides of the helmets
(which are now blank). I have _never_ seen it officially as "UVA,"
only "UVa," but I suppose there could have been some "official"
change since I graduated.

Jay
UVa Class of 1986


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From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:13:58 GMT

In article <JOHNDOE92Sep14.003355@asp.inmet>,
johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe) writes:

> still being a notre dame fan at
> that point, i didn't think too much about the wherefores of grbac's
> ill-fated pass; i had just been happy that he threw it.  now, i'm wishing
> they would have tried a shovel pass to ricky watters or (whoever #6 was).
  ^^^^

Who's "they" in this sentence?  Ricky Watters plays for the San Diego
Chargers I believe (and has for two years).  Correct me if I'm wrong 
(I don't follow the Chargers) but I do know that Ricky hasn't played
for the Irish for at least two years.  Also, the fact that you don't
know "whoever #6 was" leads me to believe that you can't be an Irish
fan; that is, unless you were referring to number 6 on the Michigan
squad.  And if that is the case, why would you wish that Michigan
chose a different play?  The interception saved ND's collective butt.

Just confused a little...
-Mike Noonan

P.S.  #6 for Notre Dame is Jerome Bettis.
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UMich-ND bickering
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:46:17 GMT

In article <bMr-5f-@engin.umich.edu>,
hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel) writes:

} In article <BuCoxx.9nA@ais.org> ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
} >In article <9209081530.AA23575@dseg.ti.com> noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) writes:
} > 
} >>14-9 is a very nice record to have against a team, especially
} >>if that team is Notre Dame.  However, it loses some of it's
} >>importance (in current analysis) when you realize that 6 of
} >>the last 7 were won by Notre Dame.  I don't know, but it
} >>seemed to me that someone who's team had lost 6 of 7 shouldn't
} >>be running around saying, "when will you 'finally start to
} >>*win* some'."
} > 
}
} Please, try to get the facts before making a fool of yourself.
} The series restarted in 1985:
} 
} Michigan Won: 1985, 1986, 1991
} Notre Dame Won: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990

Thanks, I've been corrected.

The first time I posted that 6 of 7 stat, I admitted my lack of 
confidence that I had it exactly right and welcomed the Michigan
poster with whom I was sparring to correct me.  However, since I
was not corrected initially, when I posted the second time I
neglected to post my disclaimer again.

Thanks for posting the correct stats, and I restate my claim
regarding the recent Michigan woof (not that there hasn't been
any Irish woofing):

14-9 is a very nice record to have against a team, especially
if that team is Notre Dame.  However, it loses some of it's
importance (in current analysis) when you realize that 4 of
the last 5 were won by Notre Dame.  I don't know, but it
seemed to me that someone who's team had lost 4 of 5 shouldn't
be running around saying, "when will you 'finally start to
*win* some'."

That was, after all, the original quote to which I responded.

-Mike Noonan
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From: taoc@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Chi-Chih Tao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Keywords: ND Loses
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:09:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

A few predictions by some people on the net:

(1)  Notre Dame 28
     Michigan   20

(2)  ND     18
     Mich.  17

(3)  Michigan   24
     Notre Dame 21

*****

My prediction:

     Michigan   28
     Notre Dame 24

LET'S GO BLUE!  BEAT THE IRISH!

- Chi

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From: chyang@waldorf.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: UW HUSKIES WEEK-2 
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 18:53:29 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@waldorf.engin.umich.edu


I heard the score between the HUSKIES and the Badgers was 27-10.
What is wrong with the HUSKIES?!  Could someone fill me in or 
give me a synoposis of the game???  

I mean this really blows my mind, did Don James put in the Huskies
second team or something?  

Do they look like that they are going to get their acts together 
by next week???  

Someone please respond.

- C. H. Yang
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Subject: Looking for tv schedule
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 14:13:28 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


I've got some of the listed games, but far from a complete
listing.  Is there anywhere(or anyone) that I can get help
with that?
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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: CAN ANYONE BEAT THE HUSKIES?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:37:01 GMT

Richie Anderson writes:

  >    The Huskers are going to beat them and rember last year
  >the Huskers wre up at half time over the Huskies by the
  >score of 29 to 13 (if I rember right) and they will do a fine
  >job destroying them and like their first two opponets.

     Spoken like a true Cornhusker! :-)

                                        Steve
|
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    *The* Ohio State University
    I was a Cal Bears fan when they couldn't even beat a high school team!
       I think I can live with a loss to Purdue.
From: morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC Games this week.
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:19:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <10674@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> marsden@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>In article <BuBwBH.3st@news.larc.nasa.gov> cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
>>FLORIDA STATE AT CLEMSON: Defintely the game of the week and it
>>may decide the conference champion early on. I think Clemson will be
>>very fired up to prove that FSU is not going to come into the ACC
>>and roll over them. FSU won by 27 points last week, but there were some . . .
>
>And I think all of the ACC basketball teams thought the same thing.  Do I
>need to remind you what happened?  FSU is far from intimidated by the other
>ACC football teams.

No need to remind us 'Heels what happened, but I think you have this a 
little backwards.  The basketball team was expected to be intimidated by 
the rest of the ACC and did indeed prove themselves worthy.  The situation 
is reversed in football, though.  FSU is expected to breeze through the 
ACC this year.  Rather than FSU being "far from intimidated by the other
ACC football teams," it is the rest of the league that is out to show that
they aren't intimidated by the Seminoles.  

-- 
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morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:52:45 GMT

So what the hell is the score?

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From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Virginia Tech
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:27:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.182304.8364@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
>Well, that's what makes the VT-UVa rivalry different.  UVa has not won The
>Game several years in a row.

Naw, but it has been 4 of the last 5 or better...

Jay


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From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: UCLA-BYU questions
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:36:36 -0700

What is the quarterback situation at UCLA?  Did one get hurt last saturday?

How did UCLA look against Cal St. Fullerton?

Could I get a feel of how this weekends matchup will be between UCLA and BYU
from someone that saw both games?  

Will UCLA give BYU's defense as many problems as SDSU gave BYU?  

How is UCLA's defense?


arthur,

ps. When was the last time BYU lost two home games in a row??
From: 34ZFHFM@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: MSU watch (Rememberances of last year's debacle...)
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:31:19 GMT
Organization: Central Michigan University

Well here is the score you have been waiting for:

CMU 24
MSU 20

That's it for now!!

Duane
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:26:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <68184@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>jlawlor@ptdcs2.intel.com wrote:
>}
>}Either you know Mark and are sort of joking here or you don't know him
>}at all.  If you had read many of his articles (usually backed up with
>}good stats) in this group you'd know he's not some sort of WAC fan (or
>}fanatic).  More likely he might have a chip on his shoulder AGAINST
>}Penn St. 
>
>Actually I have a chip on my shoulder against ignorance and bigotry,
>but I can see how that could easily be mistaken for Penn State. ;->

Mark is too much of a gentleman to admit it, but the REAL reason that
he doesn't like Penn State is because, being from Atlanta, he quite
naturally prefers Coke to Pepsi, and so he "has it in" for Uncle Joe's 
Pepsi State.

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From: tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAL??!!
Date: 12 Sep 1992 12:56:27 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

The current score:

Purdue 38 	Cal 3

What the heck is going on??!!! I thought the announcer screwed up and mixed
up the scores.... Russel White with only 14 yards rushing.... this from a
team that looked so good last week? Or is Purdue really that good? What the
hell is happening.....

-Teh Kao
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From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Shameless OU woof
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:49:47 GMT

In article <67688@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) wrote:
>}
>}                                                      Of course, ND is the
>}only school that can even think about pulling traditional rank on OU.
>
>Hmph!  You seem to be forgetting:
>
>    U      U
>    U    A U     The University of Alabama              |   Home of the 
>    U   A AU        NATIONAL CHAMPIONS                  |   winningest coach
>    U  A   A    '25,'26,'30,'34,'61,'64,'65,'73,'78,'79 |   in major college
>    U A    UA                                           |   football history
>    U AAAAAAA    All-time leader in bowl wins: 24       ----------------------
>    U A    UA
>     UA   U A  Wins in the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Cotton Bowl, and Orange Bowl
>      AUUU  A
>      A     A  Highest winning percentage in modern football era: 1922-present
>
>etc.

Okay, okay.  Alabama has a great tradition.  Again, you can count MNC's anyway you like, but, being
from OU, we like to restrict it to AP titles. (It gives ND 8, with OU in 2nd with 6, I think 'bama has 4?). 

>
>(Next we'll be hearing from the damned Trojans.)

Of course.  Bring on the Trojans.

Maybe I should copyright this .sig format, it's becoming popular.

>
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
> "There was such speed in her little body, and such lightness in her
>    footfall, it is no wonder her brown study astonishes us all."

- Bill Dostalik      (.sig omitted, its on my account at work, I need to copy it here.)
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From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU Score??
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:27:11 -0700

In article <1992Sep11.134722.19004@news.nd.edu>, ejohnson@bronte.helios.nd.edu (eric johnson) writes:
> Anyone have the final score of last night's game? Last I heard it was
> 45-31 SDSU.

SDSU 45 BYU 38....

BYU fumbled a punt return attempt with 1:45ish to go in the game
or it might have been SDSU's third tie in the last 4 or 5 games.

arthur
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From: sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Keywords: Holtz, sucks, wimp
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:40:58 GMT


In article <1992Sep14.040848.12093@en.ecn.purdue.edu> lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu
(Patrick W Lauson) writes:
>One question:  Could somebody who taped this game PLEASE check and see who
>got the ball first in the first half?  I must be losing my mind completely,
>b/c I was sure I heard the announcer say that ND had elected to receive in
>the first half.  Then, they got the ball first in the 2nd half as well..
>Somebody please clarify this for me, before I go nuts!
>

Notre Dame won the toss and deferred til the second half.  Michigan decided to 
kick off.  Notre Dame decided to receive in the second half. :)
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:06:43 CDT
Keywords: n

In article <1992Sep9.184554.11537@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>
>Besides, it would be nice to have a conference foe
>within driving distance... what's the closest Big 10 school to
>Texas, anyway? This move seems a little crazy--I also thought
>the SEC was more likely.

Iowa (Iowa City) and Illinois (Champaign-Urbana) are practically equidistant
from Texas-Austin, and Bloomington is a shade further.  This addition would
hardly be less logical than that of Penn State, travelwise.
-- 

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From: landolt@nexus.yorku.ca (Paul Landolt)
Subject: Words to U.Mich victory song
Originator: landolt@nexus.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:18:37 GMT

Anyone know the words and care to send 'em my way.
the "Hail" and the "Michigan" parts were easy to figure out, but trying to
listen to what the rest of the crowd just didn't happen :)

thanks

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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Cal/Purdue
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:46:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <7c7w03JR83hl00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:

>  This is a bit pessimistic; I forget what the AP #16 team was last week
>but they lost and they were ranked #25 this week.  Cal was #17, but they
>took a good beating, so they are probably around #30 I guess.
>
>  If they beat Kansas (on ESPN) by a decent score and then come on strong
>against Oregon State the following week, a Pac-10 team, they could get back 
>in to the top25.  Just in time to be knocked down again Oct. 10th :-(    
>(testing out the anit-woof theorem here).

Actually, the UW game shouldn't hurt the Bears unless it's a blowout.
Being that the best Cal can realistically hope for by that game is
in the low twenties, playing against a #2 team, away, shouldn't hurt
unless they really take it on the chin.

Assuming that they keep it respectable, the real test begins the next
week against U$C, followed by Arizona and UCLA.  A sweep there probably
means back in the top 20, for whatever that's worth...

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From: gsprow@lordvader.nswc.navy.mil (Gregg Sprow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: QB situation at PSU?
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:45:47 GMT
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center


  Whats the deal with the QB situation at Penn State?  They squeaked out the game versus
powerhouse Cincinnati.  Is Wally Richardson going to start next week or will Sacca come back?
What was his injury anyhow?  Or is Nardilillo or Kerry Collins ready to play?  Luckily we have
the easy part of the schedule first.

 Gregg Sprow   PSU'88
 NSWCDD
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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND vs FSU vs Michigan (Rose Bowl?)
Date: 13 Sep 92 13:31:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

marsden@nu.cs.fsu.edu wrote:
}
}Hey, don't get me wrong, Michigan is a great team... 
}                                                               I didn't
}think Washington was ever tested last year. 

Hmm ... let's see, Washington beat Michigan - "a great team" - quite
handily, and beat Nebraska in Lincoln, and beat a top 10 Cal team and
a solid Stanford squad.

Who would you say was better tested than Washington? 

Miami?  They beat 2 top 10 teams as well, and the same Nebraska team 
as the Huskies, plus one other solid bowl team (Tulsa).  They were 
no more or less tested than Washington.

FSU?  They beat the same Michigan team as Washington, a solid Syracuse
bowl team, WAC champ BYU, and SWC champ Texas A&M.  They also lost to
Florida and Miami.  Certainly the Seminoles were more thoroughly tested
than Miami or Washington, but they failed 2 of the tests.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
 "There was such speed in her little body, and such lightness in her
    footfall, it is no wonder her brown study astonishes us all."