HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Astrology & Beauty Contests (was: So star charts favored perot eh..?)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:03:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.014223.10686@u.washington.edu> ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
[..]
>
>	4] Time and time again, astrology has proven to be an excellent
>	   predictor of the winners of Ms. Universe and other such important
>	   competitions. I realize some of the base peasants amongst the
>	   audience might counter with an `oh, yeah? the drool test at the
>	   swimsuit competition is an even more accurate way'. I say to 
>	   such pond scums: It just ain't as simple as that! Remember, how
[...]
>							- Nagarajan

1] The fault lies not in the stars, dear brutus, but in ourselves,
   that we are in underwear. 
								
					- Shakespeare paraphrased, by way of explaining
                      how astrology affects the contestants.

2] Stay Cool.

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From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: 27 Jul 1992 12:46:12 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu


>In article <1992Jul27.144904.26091@news2.cis.umn.edu>, crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:


>  I HAVE seen the Indiana Jones movie, so

Aha the truth at last. I told you people, that this guy must have some very
good sources for his rhetoric about India. Well I gave him more credit
last time by tagging him with "City of Joy". Unfortunately my magnanimity
was wasted.

"Indiana Jones and the temple of Doom" - excellent choice for mentally depraved
punks wanting to know a little more about India. 

Samit


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: lka@lems1blems.brown.edu (Lalit K. Agarwal)
Subject: Experience with Geetha Pradeep
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:53:03 GMT

Dear net-members  !

A friend of mine is thinking of fixing up a deal (for december travel to India) with 
Geetha Pradeep OR Hannah WorldWide Travels (NY). If anybody have had an experience with these
agents during the past, I would greatly appreciate if he/she can share his/her 
experience with me. Please email me your response, as I don't read SCI frequently. I shall 
post all the responses on the net.

thanks in advance
 
-Lalit K Agarwal
From: bhargava@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Rahul Bhargava)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H1 to F1 conversion question
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:52:38 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)

Hi Folks,

A friend of mine has applied for change of status from H1 to F1, as she
wants to go to school. It has been 5 weeks since she applied but has not
heard anything from INS. If there is anyone out there who has been thru
this ( H1/B1  to F1), could they tell how much time it took for them.
 
Would it be possible for her to go to school while her F1 is being processed
by INS ?

She doesn't have net-access so please send your replies to me .

Thanks a lot .

-rahul.
From: subrata@mimsy.umd.edu (Subrata Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: olympics opening ceremony
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:43:28 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

I think most of the discussions on the opening ceremony 
remarks by Bob Costas have been beating around the bush.
Indians (at least I) found the remarks offensive not 
because either 1) India is a poor country or 2) How 
many astro turfs we have in our country (Frankly 
speaking I don't know and I don't care). The thing 
I found offensive is the fact that you do not introduce 
a country by some unfounded negative comments. How much 
does Bob Costas (or even the sports committee he consults) 
know about field hockey and in particular Indian field hockey ?
How, can they be so sure of India's not doing well in 
hockey is only due to lack of sufficient astro turfs. 
I can offhand think of several other possible reasons 
for India's not doing so well in hockey. For example, it may 
be, say other countries have improved or probably the game is 
too fast on astro turf and is not suited to Indian players 
due to lack of stamina. 

Now considering all these, how can you make a statement like 
that in front of 200 million viewers. How would have American 
liked had they been introduced by a statement like "Here is a 
country  which never came better than .. in men's gymnastics 
in ... years". The point is that it is normal decency to 
emphasize the positive when talking about any person or a 
country. I am sure Bob Costas and NBC know that. Therefore 
when Costas said that, I am sure he was deliberately trying to 
give a bad impression of India. And I did not like that. I 
would not have felt bad had it really been an absolute truth.

stay cool

-Subrata Ghsoh                           subrata@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Meeting net.people
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:04:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.231021.25242@samba.oit.unc.edu> Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.201909.6911@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul29.194434.17129@samba.oit.unc.edu> Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
>>[...]
>>
>>>of fellow netters (I hope I am not misreading private 
>>>communications over SCI):
>>>
>>>Paul Chemmanoor     - Boulder
>>>
>>1] Is my memory failing me or have I really invited my 
>>   fellow net.people to boulder on sci ? :-)
>
>It may be my recent infection with a certain virus.
>On the other hand, are you really saying that you don't care
>to meet say for example, The Phoenix? or, strictly for
>instance, Doritto Sito (sp?) (Since you haven't contributed
>to my survey I am assuming you haven't met.)

1] No, I am sure it would come to fists and broken knuckles. :-)

   Seriously, it would be great to meet all the net.persons.
   I can imagine george walking in, leaning on a cane.
   And the tough feminists, uma and shyamala glaring at the men
   waiting to pounce on the slightest sign of sexist bias.
   And dorrito sito in his monks garb.
   The Phoenix wheeling a keg of beer around on a wheelbarrow
   exhorting the crowd to lose their inhibitions.
   Icarus, not knowing anymore what his positions are in any debate,
   so confused has he become on sci listening to the liberals
   and the radical status quoists, he just nods his head and
   agrees to what everyone else says.
   People placing bets whether susan will sock one to george
   before the evening is out. And the real ram lakhan in full
   regalia: dhoti, beedi and red hair oil.

   But the man to listen to would be the Professor himself.
   Rao.
   What means this ominous silence ?


2] Stay Cool.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sk2g@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Sudesh  Kannan)
Subject: Rules for Kho-Kho and other Indian games ?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:56:29 GMT


I am looking for the rules of some of the
games that are popular in India - such as
Kho-Kho, Pittul, etc.


Could interested readers mail me the
rules of their favorite games that they
played in India ?

I can post a summary of the replies if there
is enough interest on this subject.

Thanks

Sudesh Kannan
sk2g@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: joydeep@iti.gov.sg (Joydeep Bose)
Subject: Re: Tamil Jokes... from Vikatan!
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:47:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.032808.7152@b30.ingr.com> shiva@b30.ingr.com (Shiva Shivakumar) writes:
>One of my all time favorites :
>
>PeNN : Appa, tholaipesi !
>
>Appa : Neeye pesittholai !
>
>anbudan,
>
>Jagadisan Shivakumar


One more (sic!!!!)


Tamilian: Tamil Teri ma?
Hindustani : Hindi tera Baap! (Getting very angry)


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:26022 comp.object:3008
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 26 Jul 1992 20:55:11 CDT
From: <U53433@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,comp.object
Subject: Sharing accomodation during OOPSLA-92

Hi,
I am attending the OOPSLA-92 conference in Vancouver as a student volunteer
this october. I am looking for people who would be interested in sharing
accomodation during the conference. Request anyone interested to kindly
get in touch with me at the Email addresses given below.

Thank you in advance.

Sanjeev

U53433@uicvm.uic.edu
ssshah@bert.eecs.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Re: Letter to NBC
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 18:47:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.172338.21343@opencon.com> giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani) writes:
>Artificial turfs -- Artificial turfs came about because the Americans 
>didn't use thier heads -- they designed domes with out any sunlight -- 
>Necessity is the Mother of Invention. So India, does not have the 
>Necessity of Aritfical Truf.


Ada-boy! What a convincing argument! The headquarters of football
religion, The Ohio State University, has switched from grass to turf
to grass. They didn't have a dome! I guess those guys, the coaches,
ground keepers, etc. share some of the faculty's intelligence along
with a lot of pig skin football trophies. Artificial turfs are needed
for reasons other than sunlight as well: firmness of surface,
indifference to rain conditions, maintenance costs, etc. I believe OSU
switched from turf to grass because they felt a lot of players are
getting seriously injured on the turf. And then they had big bucks
from people who pay dearly to shout `Go bucks!'

All things said, Indians can build artificial turfs with their
existing technology (polymers). You don't need supercomputers or space
travel capability. The fact that they don't do it shows it is not
their priority yet. Wait until the satellite data tell the scientists
in Sriharikota who in turn will advise the government what to do about
soil erosion by rowdy cricketers along coastal regions.


Murthy



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kanaka@utkvx1.utk.edu (Kanagaraj, S)
Subject: Re: 'Hindu' Refugees
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:13:00 GMT

>>What about hispanics and Europeans in USA? West Indians in USA and UK? Central
>>and Eastern Europeans in France (I read somewhere that close to half of
>>current French population moved there in the last 100-200 years)?
> 
>>Sumitro
> 
> 
>	I expected this. OK.

I was talking about most number of countries. My intention was to point out
that religion was not the reason for the problems those refugees face in other
countries.

> Here are the countries that I am aware of where
>'Indians' (Indian origin whatever) have settled:
> 
>                Sri Lanka
>		Singapore
>		Malaysia
>		South Africa
>		Mauritius
>		Trinindad
>		Fiji
>		USA, UK (if you want to include them)
>		any others (?)
> 
>	Countries that I am aware of where Jews (or Jewish origin) have
>settled:
> 
>		several European countries (UK, Germany, Poland, Algeria, etc.)
                                                                 ^^^^^^^
						mistake. should be Albania
>		USA
>		India, Iraq, Syria (???)
>		any others (?)
> 
>	Is there any other community that has settled in so many countries?
>Please correct me if I am wrong. I think it is wrong to relate religion to this
>problem. What happened to Japanese Americans in US during WWII? Were they
>singled out because of their religious belief? I do not think so.
> 
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
>	Hatred is created. It is not in human nature to hate others.
> 
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
>
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: 'Hindu' Refugees
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:04:35 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

raj@utkvx2.utk.edu (S. KANAKA RAJ) writes:

>can we expect that from others. Another thing. Other than Indians and Jews, I
>do not see any other people going to another country and settling there. So you

What about hispanics and Europeans in USA? West Indians in USA and UK? Central
and Eastern Europeans in France (I read somewhere that close to half of
current French population moved there in the last 100-200 years)?

Sumitro
From: thadani@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Sunil Thadani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: need list of travel agents
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:39:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: amygdala.9207230039.AA02893
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science


Sometime back I had come across a list of travel agents offering good
price/service for flying to India.  In addition to the phone numbers of the
travel agents that list also had ratings, comments etc about the travel agents.
Where can I get the latest version of this list?  Or if someone has a fairly
recent version can you please mail me a copy (thadani@cis.ohio-state.edu).

thanks
Sunil
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Re: Racism and Prejudice
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:59:44 GMT

I hope there is enough room in this hot debate between S. Prabhakar
and S. Uma for butt heads.

In article <1992Jul19.013953.19844@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian) writes:
>argued that these intuitive leaps are flashes of the "truth" or the
>"right solution" where the mind apparently grasps the final step
>in the process with all the innumerable intermediate steps telescoped
>into one. 

It is not even clear that there are `innumerable intermediate steps'
and whether there have to be at all for that matter. That is to say,
there is no agreed granularity in the thinking process. So what is one
leap (or flight of imagination) for the master could be a thousand
steps for the disciple because of the other's inferior representation
or granularity. And then there is the hardware, sigh!

> Some psychologists argue that "intuition"
>is just like regular thinking, in that the results are arrived at 
>by scientific steps of reasoning, except that the person is not
>aware of the intermediate steps. 

In some reasoning tasks there are no intermediate steps. Recognizing
flavors, patterns, faces, etc. 

>The point is that we don't understand the way the human brain works 
>enough to say when we are thinking and when we are not thinking, 

Some butt heads know that this kind of thinking is not relevant for SCI.  
But then, shouldn't that distinction (thinking vs. not thinking) come
from outside? Like a probe or an ET? Otherwise how do I know my
internal state? It's like a perpetual Turing Machine whose current
state is to print its previous state and whose future state is to
print the current state, so it has no other business.

> But questions like
>"why was the title changed" show, not a disagreement, but just
>lack of a grasp of why the title was changed. Substantive arguments
>on why the distinction didn't make any sense would have been better
>appreciated and would have shown us that the additional distinction
>was recognized whether or not it was deemed useful.

I agree that it is not at all clear what the fuss is all about ;-)
Some people!!


Cheers,


Murthy
From: goswami@eecs.nwu.edu (Ambarish Goswami)
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Do we really have any solution?
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:15:11 GMT

In article <92210.142137DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu (Deepak Srivastava) writes:
>I have been following this debate for some time now.
>
>Strange that all sorts of labeles are thrown on the
>CPM government in West Bengal. To an outsider like
>me, however, it appears that these are very reflective
>of only bhadralok bengalis in and around Calcutta.
>
>After all what is the basis of CPM's power in WB ?
>Is it simply a massive pole rigging that continues
>year after year ? No. Because no where in national
>media I have read anything which happens only in WB
>elections but is not commonly practiced in the nei-
>ghboring states of Orissa and Bihar.
>
>So why do CPM keeps coming back, year after year, as
>a democratically elected government ? May be the people
>in the rural WB do want to see them come back to power
>again and again.
>
>But what about bhadralok bengalis in and around calc-
>utta ? Make calcutta a union territory. And it should
>be ruled only by bhadralok bengalis and their inte-
>llectual offsprings in USA :->.
>
>Will Calcuttans then have any solution ? No. And the clue
>is...
	yeah, go ahead, say it, what IS the clue !!!
	I am too boneheaded to follow your SIMPLE logic and come to the
	apparently obvious clue that you are so pseudo-intellectually trying
	to point out.

	Ambarish	
	
>
>regards..              Deepak


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil,alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: surender@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sudeep Surender)
Subject: Re: alt.culture.kerala (r.f.d. kinda thing)
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Reply-To: surender@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sudeep Surender)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:24:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.222945.10181@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
>I vote YES! I knew this would happen one day... there's nothing like a group
>without Doob Chatterbox and Moooorthy Goondakotta and others...
>
>>        a] The developement of the malayalam language.
>
>let's be more practical...
>
	I am for the following. Would love to discuss the Mohan Lal
	and Mammuty movies without being heckled by the Northies.
>>        f] Films. 
>>        g] Music.
>>        h] Sheer nostalgia and news from home.
>>        i] Food.

						Sudeep Surender



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: giridhar@genie.uottawa.com (Giridhar Iyengar)
Subject: Re: Canada versus U.S.A.
Organization: MCRLab, University of Ottawa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 03:00:08 GMT

Also the cities are much cleaner in Canada. 

UN has rated Canada as the _best country to live in_ this year.

Ofcourse, being a very small market (popln 10% of that of the U.S) things
are _in general_ expensive (by as much as 100 % sometimes). 

Anything else ? 

-giri
(giridhar@pixie.genie.uottawa.ca)
From: vkodali@cs.utk.edu (VENKATA RAMANA KODALI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MEN of EASTERN origin
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:24:00 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu
Summary: real or creation

In article <1992Jul21.140951@daffy.mc.ti.com> a726226@daffy.mc.ti.com (savithri) writes:
>I just happened to scan this group out of idle curiosity.  From what I have seen,
>I am now more than certain that MEN from the EASTERN part of the world have something
>seriously lacking in their brain cells. (More than 98% - a figure I concluded from the

All other sweeping statements and generalizations deleted.

Do you (savithri) really exist or are you one of those non-existent women
who pass through sci from time to time?

Venky
vkodali@cs.utk.edu
From: msharma@yorktown.rutgers.edu (Manish Sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: NORTHEASTERN Univ, Boston - INFO Query
Keywords: Northeaster Univ, Boston, Information required, Software Engg dept
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:46:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

hi netters,

one of my friends has got admission in the SOFTWARE Engg. graduate
course, starting Fall '92 in Northeastern Univ., Boston, MA.

he needs some information regarding the univ. in general and the dept.
in particular.

Could you guys find some time out of your busy schedule to help out
this friend.

pl. email the replies to my addr. below, since i believe this topic
may not be of general interest.

thanks a lot for the help.

manish sharma
msharma@caip.rutgers.edu
From: navin@cs.cornell.edu (Navin Budhiraja)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ajit jokes
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:04:36 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853




Hi,
	Has anyone collected the Ajit jokes that were 
posted on this newsgroup over the past few months? 
I would like to get a copy, if possible.

Thanks
-Navin
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: West Bengal: Communists out, ? in
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:01:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Jul23.220149.13928
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

>I did not mean to demotivate you or hurt your sentiments anyway. 
Now don't be too hard on yourself. If somebody in the net can demotivate
me, what am I going to achieve?

>Actually,  
>I am tired of debating over these issues and cannot see any solutions to  
>any of these problems.
People are shut out by a veil from the truth (Quran)

> Whenever I go to an Indian gathering we are nothing  
>but screaming at each other about which we did not do anything back home,  
>and now are not willing to make the necessary sacrifices that will enable  
>us to achieve any of the so called suggestions. 
Yes, all nice well meaning people. But as you said earlier they will never
be trusted. If they go back to India they will have to come back here
frustrated. Don't grudge them their only pastime.

>In any case, I wish you all the best. It is good  to know that at least  
>somebody is willing to do something. -- Aditi
Oh, there allways are.
Uriey dhoja avrovedi rathe
Oi je tini oi je bahir pathe
Aye re chhute tante hobe rasi
Gharer kone roili kothaey bosi
Bhirer moddhe jhhanipey porre giey
Thhani kore tui ne re konomote
Arindam

Arindam Ghosh		(OFF) 713-743-4524
4402 Polk #3		(RES) 713-924-3069
Houston TX-77023

Asato ma sadgamaya, Tamaso ma jyotirgamaya,
mrityorma amritam gamaya,Om santi ssanti ssantihi.
[Lead me  from unreal to real
Lead me  from darkness to light,
Lead me from death to immortality,
Peace be upon the world]
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