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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Current Status of the Five (IMHO) Major Comic Distributors
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:51:28 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Nov5.232001.1110@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>
>PAD is the best of the X writers, true (that was not a compliment :))
>but he has a bum deal -- bad characters (X-Factor should be the 
>X-Dregs -- the bottom 1% of boring characters), 
>

Well, part of the fun of X-Factor is that the characters are the 
losers of Mutant Universe. Unlike Wolverine, for instance, whose not a 
character you can really use PAD's style of humor with, mainly
because the Fan-Boys will howl, he can have a ball with characters
like Strong Guy because he is an innately silly character. And
even with established ones like Havok, no one cares.

Not to say PAD wouldn't do a good job on a straight X-Book, his
style works much better with X-Factor.
-- 
We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
Arthur C. Adams acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil            	<fnord>
No, I'm not the Arthur Adams who draws comic books. Don't even ask.
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From: sewon@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG)
Subject: Re: The Death of the Earth (was Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:07 EST  

In article <1992Nov8.054031.14725@netcom.com>, dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes...
>arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee):
>>Um, that wasn't the question.  I didn't ask why Death does show up now, 
>>but why Death doesn't show up other times.
> 
>Because Death doesn't appear here as a character, but simply as a symbol.
>If they'd shown the Grim Reaper, you wouldn't have asked why they don't
>show him at other demises, would you?

Umm.. Hehe.  Can someone mail me and tell me in which issues of LSH the 
Earth gets destroyed and when it came out?  In which issue does Death 
appear?

Thanks,
 - Wayne.
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From: c60b-3fe@e260-1e.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Where the Sea Monkeys are.
Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:19:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
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In article <1992Nov10.145223.19885@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>The Sea Monkeys are playing intramural volleyball over in Ren&Stimpy #2.
>     Dave Van Domelen, confused his life packet with ramen seasoning and 
>microwaved his sea monkeys....

first.  that is pretty gross.
second.  You can microwave ramen?!?!?

Mikel B.
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Batman vs Lobo
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:40:00 GMT
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	<1992Nov9.162744.22117@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
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In-reply-to: cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca's message of Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:50:35 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:50:35 GMT, cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir) said:

cweir> To the person who suggested that Lobo take Superman out into
cweir> space to beat him up, seeing as how Lobo doesn't have to
cweir> breathe in space, my retort is this. Think about it: Superman
cweir> can hold his breath indefinitely. So, he would still be able to
cweir> kick the crap out of Lobo even in the Frag Man's home turf of
cweir> outer space. As always, I am...

Superman can only hold his breath for an hour or 2. And if he's
fighting, he uses more oxygen quicker. 


--
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu       130.215.24.1
From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: PEOPLE: Name Withheld
Date: 9 Nov 1992 15:06:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In case there was any doubt left as to who "Name Withheld," the comics
professional who started the current debate on artist vs. writer, really is:

"Image parodies itself when the Marginal Seven, comics' leading superstar --
Beat Lifeguard, Lotus Lee, Godd McFarthing, Name Withheld, Sly Virility,
Val J. Tazmania, and Wilt What'ziz'name -- become exiled from Marginal Comics
and form their own company, Splitting Image.  Splitting Image #1 will feature
Spasm, Youngbratbrood, Tractionshock, and the Jolly Green Dragon.  Covers are
by [Don] Simpson, Todd McFarlane, Liefeld, Valentino, and Erik Larsen.  The
spoof is coming in Novmeber from Image Comics."

	(swiped from CBG #90)

The founding creators of Image are, of course, Rob Liefeld, Jim Lee, Todd
McFarlane, Erik Larsen, Marc Silvestri, Valentino, and Whilce Portacio.  Match
the names as you see fit.

------------------------------
                             |     There were people everywhere, wearing bits
Jim Drew                     | of leather... clothing not even Hollywood could
jrd@frame.com                | dream up.
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     "Ron," I said.  "That guy has leather ram's
"Innocent, but not naive."   | horns, and a cape."
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    |     "Yeah, he's dressed like thet at all these
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | street fairs.  But wait 'til next month:  me and
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | Val'll take you to Hallowe'en in the Castro.
                             | Gives a whole new meanin' to 'Trick 'r Treat.'"
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "Awl's Fare"
From: mskeen@willamette.edu (Michael A. Skeen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: X-Men: The MovieOkay, since there's been plenty of talk about the
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:44:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: willamet.BxMHpM.JHG
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR

In article <1992Nov10.214636.8330@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> scostain@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Sean Edward Costain) writes:
>In article <92312.001257AJR108@psuvm.psu.edu>, <AJR108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>
>>I vote Jean Claude Van Damme to play Gambit.
>
>
>	I second the vote.
>
Uggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!! I vote for someone who can act!
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: LSH #38. Earth bites it.
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:39:52 GMT
Organization: International Irony League -- Death before smileys!

In article <1992Nov5.031830.18350@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>Spoiler warning, just in case:

>Page 20: Is that Neil Gaiman's Death there?  I'm surprised he would give
>permission for such a turkey, but then he probably doesn't know any better....

From what I hear, Gaiman's fairly accomodating about the Endless
making cameo appearances, as long as they stay in his vision of
the characters. (The infamous Captain Atom was, of course, way
over the line.)

Say what you will of the issue, but Death's appearance was
entirely appropriate for a scene in which two billion people die.
And her behavior, as such, was in character; she didn't say
nothin', she didn't do nothin', she was just *there*. (And she
was way gorgeous, as always. Almost makes it worth it...)
-- 
Andrew M. Solovay	    "Until there was rock, you only had God."
					--Ziggy Stardust

#include <disclaimer.h>
From: jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: lsh back issues
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:40:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Nov7.054020.1558
Organization: University of Georgia

>In article <1992Nov6.3680.3774@dosgate> "donald simmons" <donald.simmons@canrem.com> writes:
>>     I have been thinking of picking up some back issues of Legion of
>>Super-Heroes, after all the recent traffic on how good it used to be. Is
>>there any particular place I should start (ie. good storylines) in order
>>to get a feel for the series?

If you want to get a good feel of the NEW series, you should start with
issue number 1.  (Interesting, no?)  The series hasn't been phenomenally
popular, so you should be able to find the first issue for around 3 bucks.

Also, I got a kick out of the "Quiet Darkness" storyline, issues 21-24.
Issue 25 played up the SW6 batch, (although they appeared on one page in
24, I believe) which is a big deal in the current storyline.
Also, issue 8 is a secret origins issue, which will give you SOME back-
ground, and issue 13 is okay.

From what I hear, the very latest issue (38) will be the start of the next
big storyline, but I'm starting to fear that the book is getting worse and
all my defending it has been in vain.

My best advice, though, is to start with number 1 and keep going from there.

Chuck



-- 
                  Chuck Jordan | jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu
"If the Japanese were really as polite as they're supposed to be, it seems
that everybody at the dinner party would've turned and thrown up into
his neighbor's lap too."		-- Roy Blount, Jr
From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH dates....
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:53:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov10.035325.7746
Reply-To: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Nov9.143421.29318@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>Okay, presuming they stay on Gregorian, if June 4 1994 is a Sunday, then June 
>4 2994 is a Monday.  So look up for 1994, eh?
$ cal 6 1994
   June 1994
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30

Sorry, it's a Saturday...

What's more, I'm not convinced by the earlier posting that cal breaks
in 2100:

$ cal 2 2100
   February 2100
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
    1  2  3  4  5  6
 7  8  9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28

It gets the century-years-not-divisible-by-400 absence of leap years
right, so presumably we can trust: 

$ cal 6 2994
   June 2994
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
 8  9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30

Sorry, it's a Wednesday, all right.  So the Green Lanterns *COULD* be
allowed on Earth.

--
Jonathan Lennox
jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH dates....
Date: 10 Nov 1992 05:08:24 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <1992Nov10.035325.7746@news.columbia.edu> jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox) writes:
>Sorry, it's a Wednesday, all right.  So the Green Lanterns *COULD* be
>allowed on Earth.
I don't get it.  What does the date have to do with whether or not the GLs are
allowed on Earth?   An E-mail response would be nice...but no later than mid-
night tomorrow (Wednesday night), as I don't really want a bazillion people 
sending me replies!
			--MikE


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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Curiosity: what kind of deals do y'all get?
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:29:45 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp) writes:

>Well, in Australia, new comics are not where the dealer will really
>make money, that is unless he charges a fortune. The problem is
>beacuse of the air mail costs, exchange rates, etc... they end up
>costing a lot more in general. For example a $2.00 US comic may cost
>something like $4.50 OZ. They make most of the money on things like
>back issues etc.. Personally, I have even more cost involved, as I
>live in another state to my dealer and get him to ship them to me COD
>every two months or so. The reason I do this is because he looks after
>me in terms of not missing issues (who _hasn't_ had that happen to
>them !!) and throwing in things which he thinks I'll like. Besides,
>I've been buying from him for about 5 or 6 years now. The way I get
>some form of discount is that he'll round it down to the nearest $10
>or so. I don't actually expect it, he just sends me a fax saying that
>the next shipment is ready and $100 (or whetever) will cover it. He'll
>throw in the occassional poster, freebie, but not with any regularity.

$4.50 for a US$2.00 comic. I live in Australia and that seems
pretty expensive. For a $2.00 comic I get charged $2.90. Even
if you get freebies it's still not worth it. I gather you live
in Baccus Marsh?

Jed
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: donnelly.1@nd.edu (sean donnelly)
Subject: Re: Madman
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:23:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.174307.20618@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Buddy Bradley) wrote:
> 
> Has anyone ever read the comic called Madman?
> 
> Is it worth reading?
> --

I picked up issues 2 and 3 (#1 was missing) a couple of weeks ago on a whim
and was very pleasantly surprised. It's about a man searching for his
identity suddenly thrust into the role of a hero. The book is both
reflective and whimsical, full of bizzare elements like zombie clones,
decapitated scientists, and circus freakshows. I recommend it for people
looking for something light-hearted and slightly off-center. (Blech! I
sound like Leonard Maltin. Pick up an issue, I think you'll find it
worthwhile.)

Sean
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Tatro)
Subject: Re: Dinosaurs: A Celebration (spoilers)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:34:20 GMT

Warning: Spoilers!

























They all die.  A big comet or something.  Maybe an Ice Age.

          kristoff the ha ha ha mad
               "Don't apologize; improve." - Astoria
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Hulk
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:02:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: wkuvx1.1992Nov10.140256.3852
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Nov10.171354.28727@u.washington.edu>, gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
> In article <1992Nov9.210228.3837@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>In article <1992Nov10.002426.23256@u.washington.edu>, gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
>>> In article <1992Nov9.160506.3826@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>>>In article <69160@cup.portal.com>, Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:

>>>>> In regards to Delphi's vision of the Hulk's mental state, laughing with blood
>>>>> on his hands...why,it was right there in Hulk #400, page 46, panel 1.  I'm
>>>>> surprised no one has commented on it.

>>>>Yeah, I wondered if that was the way that panel was supposed to be. 
>>>>Too bad; I was kind of hoping that would stay off in the future for a
>>>>while...

>>> 	Why are you so sure it isn't?

>>Ummm... because the writer *said* that it isn't?
 
> 	Oh?  He did?  Don't think so....

Well, if it happened in #400, and #400 has already come out with the
scene in it, and the writer says it was the same foreshadowing...
 
>   I was hoping we'd
>>see some big buildup (yeah, the subtleness of the buildup could be
>>argued as being refreshing) to where the Hulk goes off the deep end,
>>instead of him just losing it in battle one day, then recovering.
 
> 	Who said he's recovered?

Well, he lost it in a berserker rage, then he returned to his nominal
state of non-berserkness.  I'd say that's recovering.
 
> 	And who's said the build ups OVER?

As far as the buildup to that scene, it's over.  I doubt the Hulk's
mental problems are over, though.

                                           -Drizzt
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: roper@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Roper)
Subject: Re: D'Arc Tangent info wanted
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
 
 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:37:49 GMT

D'arc Tangent had exactly one issue due to a major falling out between
Phil and Freff.  Unfortunately, although Phil had been playing with
the concept for years before working with Freff, the contracts he
signed have resulted in the characters being tied up ever since.
-- 
Bill Roper, roper@chinet.chi.il.us
From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Supes' identity revealed?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:09:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO) says:

>When Supes die, will the fact that he's Clark Kent be revealed? 
>If not, how are they gonna explain Kent's disappearance?

The big battle is probably going to rampage
 all over Metropolis -- they'll assume he's
 lost in the wreckage.

If they reveal his ID, the whole legend is over.
-- 
Francis A. Uy			Program Director, WUMD
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Get rid of the Legion of Net Heroes.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:20:59 GMT

sl859@cc.usu.edu:
>>Straw poll, please.  Who would prefer the LNH posts to be removed from 
>>r.a.c.misc as off-topic?  E-mail me with opinions, and I'll summarize.

>That's an awfully convenient way to handle things.  And must be incredibly 
>easy to falsify.  

That's silly.  It *is* a convenient way to determine whether this is a
pet peeve or Jim's or whether it's a wide-spread concern.  And there is
precious little motivation to falsify the results.  A straw poll, after
all, is little more than "I'd like to know what other people think
before taking this any further."

My own thought is that you can't ban a topic from the closest-to-appropriate
official group on the grounds that an alt group exists.  Not that it isn't
tempting, in this case.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   'T is with our judgements as our watches, none
   Go alike, yet each believes his own
		--Alexander Pope


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From: carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Legion of Super-Heroes... (VERY LONG) (not anymore)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:02:17 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Nov5.165052.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (St. Elmo's Fire) writes:

[large deletion, and Elmo is referring to the burning and confinement to
a big tank of fluid of Dirk (Sun Boy) Morgna]

> 	Well, it was a nice bit, and I appreciated it.  But what I noticed is
>that Sun Boy got horribly burned in #19, hallucinated in #29 +/- 1, died in
>#35.  That's a very long time on a comic book scale, and very little except 
>angst happened in that period (wrt Sun Boy, that is).  What was the purpose
>to his survival?  What role did it have in the story?  In other words, what 
>plot points or character development hinged on his survivor?  Not a lot.  One
>of the Subs revealed a distaste for euthanasia.  I don't think it was worth it,
>when so many other characters are crying out for page space.

  Elmo, it set up potentially very interesting characterization for the 
younger Dirk, as he has been traumatized by meeting his older self, and
realizing that "he" went bad and worked for the Dominators.

  I agree with everything else you said in that (very long) message, 
except that I don't think Hawkworld is an abomination.

[remainder deleted]

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: GILBERT@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (GILBERT, S A)
Subject: Re: A1, Epic style
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:24:47 GMT

In article <1dp9lvINNmtk@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
kens@css.itd.umich.edu (Ken Small) writes:
 
>In article <1992Nov6.053108.23588@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>>Along for the Ride
>>       Story: Igor Goldkind, Art: Glenn Fabry, 9 pp.
>[stuff...]
>>middle America, opening up with a British tourist in a Redneck bar.
>>After a little good old American disillusionment (tm), he hitches a
>>ride with a fairly bizaare trio on their way to Mexico, and the story
>>gets really allegorical.  I thought this to be the best episode in the
>>book, and I enjoyed it a great deal.  It's very reminiscent of
>>Milligan's work in Shade, particularly parts of 'American Scream' and
>>'The Road'
>
>I'm not entirely sure, but it seemed to me that the bizaare trio was William
>S Burroughs and Co on their way to Mexico just after Burroughs shot his
>wife.  The other two would be Jack Kerouak and Alan Ginsberg.
>--
>Ken Small
>kens@umich.edu
>Consulting and Support Services, University of Michigan
 
Not Ginsberg--Neal Cassady. What lead you to think this specifically
was supposed to be just after Burroughs shot his wife? The drawings of
him show him at about his present age. He was only in his 30's when he
shot Joan. I didn't care much for this story--seemed like poorly scripted
stabs at American Lit. The topper was the fat slob sheriff on the cover
with the name tag that reads "Bukowsky", who is also called "Henry" in the
story (as in "Henry Chinaski", Charles Bukowski's alias).
 
--SAG
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