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From: f_thomas@csd.uwe.ac.uk (F Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Another Quick question
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:42:49 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

Hi

Quick question (It's probably a stupid one Sorry |))

My server (386 v3.10) is doing something odd when I boot it
up.  There is a dos partition on the hard disk (C:) which it 
boots from, and the autoexec.bat file just says

server

This fires up the O/S ok but it then asks me for a file server
name and internal network number.  The boot continues and then the 
server tries to read the AUTOEXEC.NCF file in sys:\system where 
the server name and internal network number are also set.  
Obviously it then comes back with a warning that the server name and
network number are already set.

The question is,  How do I stop the server asking for it's name and
number before it reads the autoexec.ncf file ????

we have another server running 3.10 and it works OK.


FYI my autoexec.ncf is as follows:

FILE SERVER NAME MAGELLAN
IPX INTERNAL NETWORK NUMBER 3
LOAD C:NE2000 PORT=360 INT=5 FRAME=ETHERNET_802.3 NAME=NE2000 
BIND IPX TO NE2000 NET=1
MOUNT ALL
LOAD REMOTE SERVER
LOAD RSPX
REMOVE DOS

 and the startup.ncf :

LOAD C:AHA1540 PORT=330 INT=B

 thanks in advance

Frank

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From: wardt@a.cs.okstate.edu (WARD TED LEE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: print jobs showing up with wrong usernames
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:36:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: a.1992Dec16.163646.1759
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater


We are using novell 2.15, and we seem to have a problem where
someone will print something, and it shows up in pconsole with
someone elses usernames.  It hasn't really been much of a problem,
but sometimes, the user can't put their own jobs on hold.

Any suggestions?

Ted Ward
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: oberste@fcs260c.ncifcrf.gov (Oberste)
Subject: Re: pmail
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:02:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.034944.4528@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell) writes:
>m7000@moncol.monmouth.edu (RICHARD MANCINELLI) writes:
>
>>I have a simple question.. is there a way to send a message in 
>>PMAIL (or any other way for that matter) from a batch file?
>> 
>>You see our Loan Officers take mortgage applications at clients
>>houses with notebook computers then call our system & upload the
>>aplication... but they then have to call the processing department
>>during business hours to tell them they have sent the application.
>> 
>>I would just like to be able to have a message like "2 applications
>>received from xxxxxx at xx:xx:xx on xx/xx/xx" appear in their
>>mailbox.... is this possible??
>

When in doubt, RTFM. To use pmail from the command line (or batch file):

pmail <filename> to <address> <"subject"> [/B]

<filename> = file to send, assumed to be text (see below)
<address> = recipient
<"subject"> = subject, must be in quotes
[/B] = indicates that file is binary

Oops, I should have labeled 'to' as optional.

Have fun.

-Steve


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From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: pmail
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 17 Dec 92  00:15:30

On <Dec 16 00:15> RICHARD MANCINELLI writes:

 RM> I have a simple question.. is there a way to send a message in 
 RM> PMAIL (or any other way for that matter) from a batch file?

pmail <file> <user> "subject"
From: JPerkins@wc.novell.com (John Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Metering Mac Software?
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:39:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <BzDCAo.GE6@ux1.isu.edu>, hughbria@ux1.isu.edu (Brian Hughes)
wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I'm getting ready to put the Mac NLM on a 3.11 server and being
> fairly Mac stupid I was wondering what other folks are doing to
> meter Macintosh software.  
> 
> If you would email any replies I would be happy to summerize if 
> there are others interested.
> 
> Thanks In Advance,
> Brian Hughes---hughbria@isu.edu

You should call Sassafras Software, a Macintosh company based in Hanover,
NH., 603-643-3351.  There product is KeyServer.  Call them for info.

John Perkins
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Is Netware comatible with QuickMail?
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:35:33 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Dec9.145834.4219@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> lmk@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>We are getting ready to install a Novell server running Netware 3.11 and
>Netware 3.01 on our Macintoshes.
>Will this interfere with our QuickMail mailing system which uses Mac se/30 as a
>server?  I would appreciate any comments.
>
>Thanks.

Hi, (or shall I say ho,ho,ho :-)

We are using QuickMail on our net and have no trouble with conflicts at all (con
cerning NetWare for Mac services).

Think Peace 

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
From: bheagney@amiganet.chi.il.us (Brian Heagney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Apple/Local...Talk
Date: 11 Dec 92 03:48:56 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

I am currently undergoing my CNE..and I was wondering WHAT books (and does
Novell provide any) that will let me learn about AppleTalk and LocalTalk to
help me get my CNE?

Any help would be gratiously admired!

Thanks!

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From: ams01@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Katja Schaeffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Asking Novell for its ID number via DOS
Date: 18 Dec 1992 14:15:06 +0100
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de

I am currently involved in writing an application which we want to
copy protect by installing the Novell ID# into the code, such that
it can only run on the Novell net that it was installed on.  However,
we don't really know how to ask Novell (from Turbo C) what its number
is.  Could some kind sould please send the source code to do this?
As I understand it, there are 2 ways to do it.  One requires the Novell
developers package (which I don't think we have), and the other is an
extended DOS call.  Maybe someone could send me both of these, just
so that I'll have a choice.

I don't ever read this group, so please reply via email, and not by
posting here.  Thanks very much in advance for your help.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: nn7@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Narayanan Natarajan)
Subject: Re: RPRINTER/3PS Net Assist incompatible?
Reply-To: nn7@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Narayanan Natarajan)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:18:16 GMT


Network Gurus . . .
    In Novell printing, the default setting for user hold is always
"NO".  Is ther any way to change this default setting from NO to YES.
This changing willl help us a lot.
    We run a lab with 40 + nodes, and there are two laser printers
connected to  dedicated machines.  The users have to pay for laser
printing, and this is done by a vendacard, which decriments the
count in the card for each page printed.
    So If we can change the user hold to yes, then we can put the
lasers on the network, with a machine which has the pconsole always on
the screen.  The user sends the job from anywhere, go to the
pconsole, release his/her job, and put the vendacard.   I think this
will solve a lot of problems for us.
    If somebody can give us some idea in this context, or someother
way to solve this problem, I would really appreciate that.  Thanking
you all in advance.


/Raju.N./
Systems analyst
Columbia University, HSL
nn7@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
From: alan@oetl1.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alan Strassberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NCL Problem.. WAS: ** I want my server to do this ...(cron for NW 3.11)
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:39:51 GMT
Organization: Lockheed M & S Co., Santa Cruz, California

In article <1992Dec17.022538.50039@ccvax.ucd.ie> ctoomey@ccvax.ucd.ie (Colm Toomey) writes:

[..]
>> 	A free cron (which is what you want) is available as NCL.ZIP
>> 	on netlab2.usu.edu under misc. This is is an NLM for NW 3.11 

>Hey, has anyone out there got NCL to work properly; LOADS of people have
>complained that if you `UNLOAD' the NCL NLM, your server will abend, and that's
>exactly what it does for me..  Mind you, the DOCs do say to use a `special'
>version of the CLIB NLM, not the `Red Box' one - I've been unable to find where
>I can get this version of CLIB.NLM; if this is the fix, can someone point me in
>the direction of a FTP site with said file.

	Perhaps you'd care to ask the author and report back ?

	NCL was written by Pierre Baco and can be reached at:
	76247.2725@compuserve.com .

					alan
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Lockheed, Santa Cruz, California.
From: UH@Materna.DE (Uwe Hoch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Novell stops delivery of NSE???
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:18:26 GMT
Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH, Dortmund, Germany

I have a problem getting the NSE which I ordered in Spring 91. I got it two 
times (Spring and summer) and now I didn't get any new release since then.
Has anybody any information, whether Novell has stopped distributing the 
NSE?? And if not, is there any E-Mail address at Novell which listens to my 
problems? I already sent a fax, but nobody anserwed.

********************** All I need is a miracle **********************

Uwe Hoch                             Voice : +49 231 5599-236
Dr. Materna GmbH                     Fax   : +49 231 5599-100
Vosskuhle 37                         e-mail: Internet: uh@materna.DE
4600 Dortmund 1                              CIS     : 100015,2362
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Got charon working...thanks!
From: hamish@terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Hamish Marson)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 09:21:49 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: Comp Sci, U of Waikato, New Zealand
NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz

In article <Dec14.170524.11472@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller) writes:
|...as it turns out I had screwed up the address for the SMTP gateway... oh
|well.
|
|OBGateway: Someone on the net sent me a letter saying that his company will
|be releasing a product next year which will be an SMTP gateway implemented as
|a 3.11 NLM.  Funny, when I was looking for a mail package I called up ccMail
|and they said a gateway could only be run on a dedicated PC.  I asked them
|why it couldn't be an NLM and they basically just said "it's impossible".  Best
|of luck to this company.
|

Well. It may be impossible for some people (ie ccMail), but its certainly not 
impossible to have an SMTP gateway sending mail. Perhaps they meant that the
ccMail interface isn't available to NLM's? Hmmm... I don't know how ccMail 
stores or forwards its mail so I can't comment, but if the file is kept on
the server (Or any server that the NLM has access to), then it is certainly
possible.  I may do one myself just to piss them off :)

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From: rossiter_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: URGENT - SCSI DISK LOSES PARTITION INFO
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:14:16 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: rossiter_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

One of our 3.11 with NW4M 3.01 servers has two drives in a single
external cabinet.  SYS is a 320MB MaxStor, VOL1 is/was a 1GB Dynatek/
Fujitsu.  Two of the last three times the power has been turned off
(server DOWNed properly, power off at cabinet swith), the 1GB drive 
has lost its partition table.  The second time was to install a new 
fast tape drive, and no backup is available of the day's work.  Is 
anyone aware of _ANY_ way to restore a partition table without losing 
the data which resides on the disk.  (Note: VREPAIR can't see the drive,
even though MONITOR knows it is there and active but with 0 partitions).

Any help in the next 32 hours would be _very_ much appreciated - 
I guess I could say that my Christmas would come early if someone 
has a fix for this!

Thanks in advance
Pat
From: gelhard@quaker.admin.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: LAN workplace for DOS and UNIX
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:45:28 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

We are running a Novell network which includes LAN workplace for DOS.  We are
buying a RS/6000 UNIX workstation.  Does LAN workplace for DOS give us X
windows emulation for our DOS machines?

Thanks in advance,

Barbara 
Gelhard@a1.quaker.upenn.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: George Pipkin <gpp8p@Virginia.edu>
Subject: Recovering from network error
X-Xxmessage-Id: <480F192EFD010C89@acc-mac12-3.acc.virginia.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 23 Apr 42 11:10:38 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:34:53 GMT

I have been working on a server monitoring program which attaches a
series of servers, reads some bindry objects, and then detaches in rapid
succession.  The thing works fine up to the point where there is a
network error of some kind.  Since we have a over 100 servers on our
broadband,  it doesn't take too long for this to happen.  I have written
my own error handler so the program doesn't end up snagged in an ABORT,
RETRY prompt, but once a server has produced an error, I can't seem to
come back to it successfully later on in the look.  I have discovered
that the particular "slot" in the connect ID table continues to be in use
despite calls to DetachfromServer (which also land me in the error
handler).  What I am looking for s a way to "clean out" a slot in the
connection ID table which has become disfunctional due to some kind of
communicatins time-out from a particular server.
From: Steve.Bauer@launchpad.unc.edu (Steve Bauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: capturing serial ports
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:15:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

I am looking for a program that will allow me to capture a serial port and
send it to a print.  I have capture already capturing the three parallel
ports so I can't use mode to make a com port look like a parallel port...

Thanks!

Steve Bauaer

sbauer@silver.sdsmt.edu


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From: eprie@news.msen.com  (Eric W. Priebe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: configuring mac nlm
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:02:32
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Reply-To: eprie@hcia.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: dingo.aa.hcia.com
Keywords: mac nlm
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTP

Im trying to link an existing local talk network with my novell
system.  The installation manual describes the sytax for loading the
routing info, but doesnt say if Im supposed to be describing the
current net, or if im supposed to be creating new numbers.

We currently have three zones, First Floor, Third Floor and HCIA.COM

The load and bind commands are:
load appletlk net=nnnnnn zone={"xxxx"}
                  ^^^^^^        ^^^^^    <- am I creating a new zone,
                                            or specifying an old one?

bind appletlk esnap net=yyy-zzz zone={"????"}
                       ^^^^^^^^        ^^^^    <- same question, also,
                                                is it supposed to match
                                                the load command?

Thanks to anyone who can help, Eric

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy)
Subject: Re: MENU DRIVEN SOFTWARE FOR NOVELL 3.11
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Summary:  Try This...
Keywords: Novell
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:57:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.021323.14408@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> efroyman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Ella Froyman) writes:
>
>Hi netters;
>
>I am looking for a MENU driven software for Novell 3.11. Can anybody
>tell me where I can find that?
>
>Ella
>P.s. BY menu driven I mean that after installing novell 3.11. i can
>do administration stuff,or adding users by menu driven software. For
>example: if a person logs in as a SUPERVISOR he or she will get a
>menu which can be used by a supervisor only. and if someone logs in
>as a GUEST he or she can't access supervisor's menu through the
>MENU driven software.

I think that I know exactly what you are looking for!!!  Try DougMenu.
It's free, reads environment variables, checks for network connections,
makes fine looking menus, etc.  And it's interface even looks like the
rest of the Netware menus (like pconsole, syscon, etc...).  I highly
recommend that you at least try it.  You can get if from any simtel20
mirror under the /menu directory.  The program is named dmenu168.zip.



	--Jerry



-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: fenton@iron.hq.aflc.af.mil (George I. Fenton)
Subject: Re: Portable Netware and Mac Clients
Organization: U.S. Air Force Security Assistance Center (AFSAC)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:35:38 GMT


jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe) writes:


>Does Portable Netware support Macintosh clients?  If so,
>how do you install support for them.  The manuals that
>I have (IBM version of Portable Netware 3.11) do not
>even mention Macintosh.

All versions of Portable Netware for UNIX that I have worked with
do not support Macintosh clients...that should be available
on the next release of Netware for UNIX.  An example is Hewlett-
Packard, which I heard will have a new Netware for UNIX on the
same level as Netware 4.0 that supports NLMs.  Macintosh is
believed to be included in the client support.

If I remembered correctly, Netware 3.11 did not have Mac support
unless you purchased an add-on module (e.g. NLM).  Netware v4.0
is suppose to put the Mac support back into the main operating
system.

If you need Mac support now, you'll need to use a PC File Server
as a front-end to your RS6000, or have the Mac talk TCP/IP to
your RS6000 and setup virtual drives (i.e. like NFS). --GIF


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Apple/Local...Talk
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:32:43 GMT

In article <bheagney.0jua@amiganet.chi.il.us> bheagney@amiganet.chi.il.us (Brian Heagney) writes:
>I am currently undergoing my CNE..and I was wondering WHAT books (and does
>Novell provide any) that will let me learn about AppleTalk and LocalTalk to
>help me get my CNE?
>
>Any help would be gratiously admired!
>
>Thanks!
>
Hi,

Check out "Inside AppleTalk, Second Edition" published by Addison & Wesley.  
This is the AppleTalk "spec." manual and will give you enough information to
write your own AppleTalk device/product...

Think Peace, and Happy Holiday!

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek,Ca.
From: SLCarlyl@uci.edu (ASTWIN)
Subject: NE3200 LAN Driver 3.18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Bio Sci
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:36:46 GMT

The latest NE3200 LAN driver can be obtained from Eagle Technology's
BBS. The number is (408) 453-0734. Join Conference 1 and download
NE3200.EXE

Steve Carlyle 
<slcarlyle@uci.edu>
From: villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: novell interrupt
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:15:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1gno6oINNhoe
Organization: Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: xanth.cs.orst.edu

In article <1992Dec16.053345.26054@trantor.dso.gov.sg> lchiengf@trantor.dso.gov.sg (Lim Chieng Fai) writes:
>This is what I found in the book "Programmer's guid to Netware" by
>Charles Rose which I think is what you are looking for :
>
>Get Object Connection Numbers (E3h 15h)
>Get Connection Information (E3h 16h)

But you also need the format of the reply and request buffers.  Sorry I don't
have my copy of the book with me right now.

Later,
-- 
John Villalovos
Certified Netware Engineer
villalj@xanth.cs.orst.edu
(503) 753-7883
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: lapena@athena.cs.uga.edu (Chito Lapena)
Subject: LAN time on MACS
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:15:12 GMT



Hallo,
We are running Netware 3.11 with some Macintoshes on system 6.0.7
and System 7. Can anyone tell me how I can grab the time from the
server using Think C?

thanks

chito
lapena@athena.cs.uga.edu
From: Wilfried.Rutjes@f103.n110.z60.wlink.nl (Wilfried Rutjes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: attach/login correction...
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:26:00 -0100

Hello the,

tco> login SERVERNAME/USERNAME;PASSWORD

It should be SERVERNAME/USERNAME < [file with password]

Hatjoo,
      -=\/\/ilfried=-

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: phill@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Phill Solomon)
Subject: return codes from login.exe ?
Keywords: what are they ?
Organization: Computer Power Software
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1992 05:54:08 GMT

Hi,
can someome post or mail me the return codes from login.exe
What I want to do is allow users who get their password wrong 
another go at it before they get locked out.


thanks,   

Phill.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: LANSUP.COM mistakenly reverses MAC address bit order.
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:31:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.213050.27582@rhrk.uni-kl.de> weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT]) writes:
>Well, last time I checked LANSUP.COM was a driver for the IBM LAN Support 
>Program, written by a small but upcoming technology firm called
>NOVELL, located in Provo, Utah, for their ODI driver specification :-) :-)

You know, i'm really glad you mentioned this.  I've been planning a
trip to Rome, and last time i checked, Denmark was in Europe.  Could
you tell me what bus to take to get from the Coliseum to the Vatican?

>Sorry, couldn't resist...

Me, neither.
					don provan
					donp@novell.com
==========>				San Jose, California ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell