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From: s9935328@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Deborah L. Zandell)
Subject: Re: Shoot_Me_Now_Angst
Summary: They go after the weak
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:27:43 GMT

Yeah, muggers go after the weak.  
They _also_ go after the weak-minded --
People who _look_ like they have no idea
What is going on, or where they are.

I admit I don't (as a female) want to get stranded
in some of the rough parts of Baltimore,          
But -- if you're handicapped by being small, or female, or, well,
whatever, the best thing to do is to make up for it 
in some other way.  

(So, of course, weak, small people should wear their walkmen and look
all over the place when walking through the worse parts of Baltimore.)



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Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Keywords: see Summary.

In article <1992Apr7.114407.2785@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
>In <1992Apr7.153957.18565@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:
>
>>Why is this?  Are you bullet-proof as well?  Your current location might be
>>reasonably safe, but I suggest you don't take your attitude with you to some
>>of the poorer quarters of Baltimore (or any other major U.S. city) at night.
>
>Not at all.  But the fact remains that I am safer than anyone smaller or
>older than me.  Not SAFE, but safer.  Studies of muggers have shown that 
>they go after the weak, not the strong.
>
>ben
>fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
>right here, right now
>there is no other place I'd rather be!
From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Whats in a name?
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:33:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: remarque.JYM.92Apr7213354
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: narcisga@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu's message of 26 Mar 92 14:19:50 GMT

=o= Now heres a prime example of someone whos really on top of
how to write for a Usenet audience.  He know's when *not* to use
an apostrophe.  Learn from this man.
    <_Jym_>

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From: baillod@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Brad Baillod)
Subject: Re: I AM LOST HERE! ANYONE WANNA HELP A NEWBIE????
Keywords: See title.
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 10:23:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.083718.1886@pellns.alleg.edu> guptaa@.alleg.edu (Godfather) writes:

>I'll appreciate any help and castrate any jokers.

What's red and green and spins around at 1600 rpm?
A newbie left on "liquefy" in a blender for two weeks!

What's the difference between unloading a truck full of bowling balls
and unloading a truck full of newbies?
You can use a pitchfork with the newbies!

What do you call a newbie with no arms and no legs?
Matt.

What's pink, red and blind?
A newbie with eye irritant poured into its eyes and razor blades taped
to its fingers!


That about does it for the newbie jokes.  We don't need idle threats
on this newsgroup.  This is a newsgroup of gentle, loving people,
hence our angst.

And as for your idle threat:
Go ahead and castrate me.  I dare ya.  Yeah, go ahead!  Castrate
me.  Oh yeah.  Woof.  Woof.  Ruff ruff!  Oh, do it now.  Do it now,
you big studly hunk!  Castrate me!  Make me bleed!  Woof!  Woof!

-- 
Brad Baillod						baillod@eecs.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: cos@sun.lclark.edu (John Costello)
Subject: Wendy Angst (I miss my Shrew :(
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:32:57 GMT

ObjAngst:  Not being able to find a mail address which *works* so I can 
write to Wendy.

Cos
the delinquent Shrew-Chew Toy (tm)

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan)
Subject: Re: Shoot_Me_Now_Angst
Keywords: see Summary.
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:39:57 GMT

Ben Fulton <fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

>Not really.  As a 25-year-old, reasonably large male, I think I can walk
>down any street in any city without much fear of being either mugged or
>raped.  

Why is this?  Are you bullet-proof as well?  Your current location might be
reasonably safe, but I suggest you don't take your attitude with you to some
of the poorer quarters of Baltimore (or any other major U.S. city) at night.
A scrawny 14-year-old with a gun might take a muscular 25-year-old as a 
challenge.

I am now reasonably confident that I can walk home at night in my neighborhood,
but I don't kid myself that it's safe.  Plenty of muggings and the occasional
murder have occurred very close by.  I'd rather take some risks than live in 
fear, but I try to reduce the risk to a reasonable level.

--
Paul Callahan       | "... the 'spineless prickly pear' ... this long-neglected 
callahan@cs.jhu.edu | gift of nature, which now promises to be of as great or 
                    | even greater value to the human race than the discovery 
BIFF WHERE ARE YOU? | of steam."                      -- Luther Burbank, 1911
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From: terri@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (St Theresa of the Net)
Subject: Re: Shoot_Me_Now_Angst
Organization: Computing Something Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:02:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.011459.11992@acsu.buffalo.edu> hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy) writes:
>	I rather think I look bored and lonely...  I would rather look like I
>want some curious woman to sit at my table... how do I look like that without
>scaring them off?

Just for the record, curious women do not sit down at strange men's tables.

It doesn't even happen on soap operas.

Sorry.





Just another bummer.
-- 
A little bit of uh huh and a whole lot of oh yeah.   \  (414)CRUSH-13
T. Flynn's Casa de Interesting: 1755 N Cambridge Ave #306 Milwaukee WI 53202    
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: Ben Fulton <fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Shoot_Me_Now_Angst
Keywords: see Summary.
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:43:12 -0500

In <1992Apr7.153957.18565@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:

>Why is this?  Are you bullet-proof as well?  Your current location might be
>reasonably safe, but I suggest you don't take your attitude with you to some
>of the poorer quarters of Baltimore (or any other major U.S. city) at night.

Not at all.  But the fact remains that I am safer than anyone smaller or
older than me.  Not SAFE, but safer.  Studies of muggers have shown that 
they go after the weak, not the strong.

ben
fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
right here, right now
there is no other place I'd rather be!
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: kennedy@feline.uucp (Sean Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Getting let go
Organization: Humber College Technology Dept.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:46:45 GMT

So you think that YOU are going to lose your JOB!
My god! I don't even have one and I got fired two weeks ago from a job
that I didn't even have all because I fell in L*@E with the systems adm,
and all for the sad reason that I didn't have a girlfriend witch I now
have but I can't do any-thing because my evil mom-bitch won't let me
have the FrEaKiNg car.

AHgoDaMMitSonnOnnOMMBeEcHiNNGFuqIngHeck!

Well congradulations you are now gainfully unemployed just like ME!

BTW-I am a lot of ANGST only Because I do sound for a rock group Called

			GlueLeg  with their latest album
			ANGST
 

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From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Time angst
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:32:05 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr6.235507.21066@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> mikef@panic.lerc.nasa.gov (Mike J. Fuller) writes:

>Sunday morning the strangest thing happened.  At precisely 2:00 a.m., the
>clock on my workstation jumped to 3:00 a.m.

Cute... I had to set the clock on my Amiga manually...

>Poof!  An hour of my life just vanished.

It was great for me. I happened to be working a nightshift that night, and so
I was able to go home one hour early, PLUS I got paid for the extra hour I
didn't work!!!!!! I seem to remember the same thing happening to me last year
as well...

>Now I'm depressed.  I want that lost hour back.

Don't worry - you'll get it back later on this year...

Barry.
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Shoot_Me_Now_Angst
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:14:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr7.002613.541@uwm.edu> terri@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (St Theresa of the Net) writes:
>In article <1992Apr4.183520.18740@acsu.buffalo.edu> hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy) writes:
>>	You said it!  I think that's what hurts the most, going into a
>>restaurant for lunch and having the waitpersons(sorry, don't want to offend
>>the huge numbers of ladies in this group 8) go "Table for one, as usual?"...
>
>OH, come on, now.
>
>Men always eat in restaurants alone. Men can do *lots of things* all by
>themselves, because they are big boys.  Up until damn recently, women

	That doesn't make it easier for me or those like me, the lonelier
types of guys...  

>couldn't go into restaurants for dinner without the waitron stuffing them
>way back in a corner (in the middle of traffic by the kitchen door or so
>far in back that the waitron doesn't even see her.) Women still can't go to

	hmmm, I shall have to look out for this never noticed it before.. 

>most bars alone without getting hit on.  Go to a movie? that's iffy. Hell.

	honestly if I got hit on in a bar I'd be happy, but then again that
would probably stem from the novelty of the situation

>I can't even walk alone in my neighborhood at night or even sometimes
>during the day.  And this is how it is in most cities.  

	men can get mugged too...  oh we can't be sexually assaulted but
conversely we are more likely to lose our lives to a mugger

>
>Basically, it's far more socially acceptable for men to be able to do
>things alone; men at least have that option.

	well men have devloped a better system for handling stuff alone, since
we are expected to do everything for ourselves while it seems to me women
still suffer(?) from having men cater to them...  it doesn't necessarily make
it less painful to be alone for men, just more "acceptable".

>
>Men look distinguished, businesslike, pondering.  Women look like they
>couldn't get any of the other secretaries to go to lunch with them.

	I rather think I look bored and lonely...  I would rather look like I
want some curious woman to sit at my table... how do I look like that without
scaring them off?

>
>Any more about the society stuff, we could move it to soc.women. they'd like
>that.
>-- 
>A little bit of uh huh and a whole lot of oh yeah.   \  (414)CRUSH-13
>T. Flynn's Casa de Interesting: 1755 N Cambridge Ave #306 Milwaukee WI 53202
From: gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Xibo's Vacation (part one) [LONG]
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:30:52 GMT
Organization: UB

ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra) writes:
>     Oh Jesus H. Christ in a fucking Denny's,
Hey, I thought he worked at Perkin's...

>Xibo.  You travel all the way to Chicago to
>eat goddam Pizza Hut?

that's nearly as bad as going to the summit of the Greenland Ice Sheet to piss
in the snow...

>--Starcap'n Ra,      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy

Gerson
gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: v122jr52@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Thomas H Dunning)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Wendy Angst (I miss my Shrew :(
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr16.093257.10965@lclark.edu>, cos@sun.lclark.edu (John Costello) writes...
>ObjAngst:  Not being able to find a mail address which *works* so I can 
>write to Wendy.
> 
>Cos
>the delinquent Shrew-Chew Toy (tm)
_______________________________________________________________________________

Yeah, her posts were pretty entertaining.
If you do find her Cos, tell her to start posting to Alt.Angst again.
Tell her without her there's not enough angst here anymore (actually
with all the cascades there *is* a shortage of real angst...*sigh*

				Also in need of a shrew,
				td
From: cg108fbb@icogsci1.ucsd.edu ( **!ReVeLlAtIoN!**)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: I AM LOST HERE! ANYONE WANNA HELP A NEWBIE????
Date: 6 Apr 1992 05:56:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: icogsci1.ucsd.edu
Keywords: See title.

In article <1992Apr5.083718.1886@pellns.alleg.edu> guptaa@.alleg.edu (Godfather) writes:
>
>Title says it all. 
>To be more specific - What is Angst all about????
>I'll appreciate any help and castrate any jokers.
>'member - they call me TMM here - short for TrashMailMonster. And I am good at my job.

Trash mail? Jeez.
You are such a dork.  Jeez, look what just came out from
under a rock.
I'm starting to wonder where Gypsy is.. I save all her
e-mail and print it out in color and hang it on my wall..


Keith C. Estanol	| storm@ucsd.edu	
UCSD, Cognitive Science | storm@bitnet.ucsd
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Wanted: An office with a window, and a SPARCstation
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 I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will!"
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From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: ignore this i had to put it somewhere
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:03:55 GMT
Organization: UB



     so many people having a good time outside my door
     i still have it locked to keep them out
     it doesnt matter they wouldnt knock 
     they never do

     sitting alone at lunch food on my plate
     i watch them all so happy so high on life
     talking about the most inane stupid things
     i hate them for no reason except im alone

     this sounds pathetic and full of self pity
     it is because i am i am best at self pity
     i do it real well see?  
     im lonely im hopeless im worthless it dont matter

     my pain my tension my stress and depression
     it is all part of me makes me what i am
     be yourself you say be yourself
     myself is pain i hate it i wish i were someone else

     tricking myself into the pretense of happiness
     is getting harder and harder these days
     there are fewer things every day in my life
     to pretend being happy about

     i hope you ignore all these things i just write
     everyone else does i have a very fragile view
     of the world i wouldn't want you
     to break it

     and what ever you do please dont tell me to be
     happy to cheer up to feel better
     and then just walk away with your smile 
     that just makes it worse then again it always does

matt
From: v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Wendy Angst (I miss my Shrew :(
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:27:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr17.132826.14587
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr17.120351.20470@lclark.edu>, cos@lclark.edu
(John Costello) writes...
>On the bright side, I tried one of her old mail addresses last night, and 
>haven't gotten anything back from the mailer-daemon.  Of course, it usually
>takes a half to a whole day for the mail to get through all the little relays
>anyway, so it will probably be returned to me sometime tomorrow, when my hopes
>are at their highest and my outlook very positive, sending me down into 
>depression.  (Now, all I need to do is find Monty's address....)

Won't do you much good. I'm on vacation with Wendy. Boy,
does she look good in a swimsuit. :)

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From: johnw@cbmvax.commodore.com (John Wiederhirn - CATS)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Time angst
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:28:17 GMT
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

mikef@panic.lerc.nasa.gov (Mike J. Fuller) writes:
> Sunday morning the strangest thing happened.  At precisely 2:00 a.m., the
> clock on my workstation jumped to 3:00 a.m.  Poof!  An hour of my life just
> vanished.  Now I'm depressed.  I want that lost hour back.

You know perfectly well you'd just waste it wondering how you got it back.

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From: v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: More From Our Files
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Apr14.144740.13430@parst1.uucp>, martin@parst1.uucp
(Martin Walker) writes...
>Not that it takes much anyway, I suppose - so don't flatter yourself that
>any _normal_ person might just give a shit about your problems....

They might, if I knew any.

>A bucket of hake fillets probably has more guts (and character) than a bucket
>of me.....

You're in a bucket?
As for the support group idea, I think its a great idea. In fact,
if I could figure out how to run a mailing list, I would do it.
The Misogynism List. I like the sound of that.

>As for 'doomed' - you should be so lucky as to have anyone bother with 
>'dooming' you to anything. Sure you'll watch women fall over men with
>no personality, but there won't be any 'dooming' to relieve the endless
>monotony of your existence. Yes, your article does mean something to me,
>but then I don't count, so why did you even bother?

Well, my life might suck, but at least I don't live in South Africa.

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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Re: GODDAMMIT!!! GET THIS FUCKING CASCADE SHIT OUT!!!
Organization:  People for the Socially Responsible Use of Brainwashing
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 21:17:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.133832.23518@acsu.buffalo.edu> hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy) writes:
>
>	I dont' think I'm the only one who gets pissed off when I look in
>alt.angst trying to find people as bad off or worse off than me, and what do I
>see?  a USENET chain letter and related discussions taking up EVERY ARTICLE!
>You know folks, there's a newsgroup for this stuff.. it's called
>alt.stupidity, so why not take this crap over there?  
>	then again, it might just be a conspiracy to get me angry and
>flustered and feeling low-to-mid level anxiety...  at this point I wouldn't be
>surprised
>	then again, who would go to all that trouble over me?

Right!  Cheer up--nobody cares.  Since you only posted to alt.angst,
and none of the other groups, no doubt you missed *every one* of the
cascaders, so your message will have no effect at all on them.

But you should still post safely, just in case.  Dammit, Jim, you
*know* how those short one-sentence paragraphs tend to attract the
wrong element!

ObAngst: If I add chemicals to a packet of Macaroni 'n' Cheez so that
it actually glows orange, does it become even cheesier?

Why do female mammals produce milk instead of Spam?  (Too bad you
can't actually *drown* in cascades.)

-- emb.  Pickup line #514:  "Feed me."
Sing TV commercials--people will want to buy you and take you home.
From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: J______r
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:38:47
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

=o= I told my friend Holly (username: holly) about the goings-on
here and how her name came up.  She claims it wasn't she who
caused any angst, but perhaps it was her evil twin.  She later
named me as her evil twin.

=o= Then I had to send email to a Jennifer.  I looked her up in
the employee directory and found I had these usernames to choose
from:
	jenn
	jenni
	jennifer
	jenny

    <_Jym_>

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From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Papal Papa Pap Angst
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:48:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: remarque.JYM.92Apr8084837
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

=o= You want angst?  Check out this dirt I got on Mother
Theresa, of all people!

=o= There are people all over the world doing the same kind
of mercy missions she does.  Why does she get all the press?
Simple.  She's pushing the Catholic agenda.  The whole point
of her mission is to keep people from using abortion or
contraception.

=o= She's lauded as a saint.  So how does she use this
recognition for the greater good of humanity?  By cozying
up with dictators like Duvalier on Hoxha, to give them an
air of respectability.

=o= Mother Theresa:  a tool of the papal patriarchy.  You
heard it here first.
    <_Jym_>

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