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From:         steve <ASSRP@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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A question for the knowledgable members of the list.  Last y ear, we volunteere
d to be bumped on a Delta flight and received a voucher for a free flight anywh
ere Delta flys in the U.S.  We have chosen to go to New Orleans and when we cal
led, we were told that we would have to fly stand by...Has any one else had a s
imilar experience?   Any way around this?  They won't even take our reservation
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From:         "Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian" <MFRY@BROOK.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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While it is true that bonus miles (like triple miles promotions) can be
used at any time the current segment promotions for all airlines except TWA
DO NOT give you bonus miles.  You receive one free round trip in the U.S.
and maybe the Carribean if you fly eight segments.  You must use your free
ticket between September and December of this year (I assume Thanksgiving
and Christmas are blacked out).  TWA gives 10,000 miles for four segments,
so it would take eight segments to get a free trip in the U.S.  But you can
add these miles to any miles you already have and go elsewhere.  And of
course you also get the actual miles for your flight.  So if you flew to LA
and stopped over in St. Louis you would get 10,000 bonus miles and about
5,000 actual miles.  You must make sure you have two different flight
numbers.

Mary Fry
The Brookings Institution Library

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:22:12 TUR
From:         The weather prophet <LAMBETH@ASDVAX.LARC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      RE: Fare Wars
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A friend of mine told me he heard over the radio that Northwest was reducing
their fares and allowing an extended time period to use the tickets.  United
and another airline was reported to follow suit.  I would also be interested
in hearing about any other info about this.

                                   Jim Lambeth
                                   LAMBETH@ASDVAX.LARC.NASA.GOV
                                   jdl@jaguar.larc.nasa.gov
                                   LAMBETH@HALOE.LARC.NASA.GOV
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 23:01:43 PST
From:         Eric Fenster <efenster@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      Moscow study trips
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  I want to remind anybody who has been thinking of participating in the
Moscow study trips being organized for Spring 1993 that time is short for
deciding and making the necessary arrangements.
  The trips are "fact-finding missions" to explore the economic, political,
social developments in Russia, and all interested adults are eligible.  No
knowledge of Russian required.

The schedule is:

1) 15 Apr-22 May
2) 15 Apr-04 May
3) 03 May 22 May

4) 29 May-29 Jun  (inc. 4 credit hrs from Eastern Michigan Univ.)

  I can send complete information by email, as well as the daily schedule
followed last June.  My address is:

 efenster@igc.apc.org

Thank you,
Eric Fenster
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:37:57 TUR
From:         MEWALKER@MBCF.STJUDE.ORG
Subject:      Interhome question
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I'm planning to visit Southern France in April.  I have come across some
information on an organization called Interhome, through which you can
rent houses or apartments.  Is anyone familiar with this?

I'd also be glad of recommendations of good places to stay in the area
of Aix-en=Provence.  We want to be comfortable - price is not the main
concern, though we're not looking for super-expensive.

Thanks for your help.

Mary Edith Walker
mewalker@mbcf.stjude.org
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:43:19 -0700
Reply-To:     "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      TAN: Adobe's Acrobat

Hello Folks:

  I just read an article mentioning Adobe's new flagship product for
PostScript utilities. It appears that with their new product "Acrobat"
you will be able to view postscript documents. (at last!) It appears to
convert also convert PS docs into a compressed version call portable
document format. Here is an excerpt for those who are interested:

  "What makes Acrobat interesting is this: to author documents -- that is,
to create fully formatted documents that can be read on screen -- all you
need is Acrobat reader software and an application with Postscript output.
The documents will be relatively small, making them easier to distribute
on a network or via diskette or CD-ROM.
  The reader software, to be available in Windows, DOS and Macintosh
formats, will let users view Postscript documents that have been converted
to a special format called portable document format, or PDF."

The PDF file attains its compressed qualities by including only the
font metrics, using a compression utility similar to JPEG, and still will
be stored as an ASCII file. Later support will be offered for SGML.

It looks like Adobe really wants to make the move to a paperless office
by enabling users to store complex layout documents in small space and
still offer support (ASCII) for transmission via generic Email.

Geof.

(Quotation comes from "Datamation", Dec. 15, 1992 Edition)
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:28:29 +0200
Reply-To:     Era Eriksson <reriksso@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
From:         Era Eriksson <reriksso@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject:      Hyphenation and kerning

The below text was previously posted to comp.text.desktop. Apologies to
anyone who has seen this before.

-+-+-

I do pretty much work in PageMaker and have repeatedly been annoyed
at the hyphenation algorithms. Probably a lot of the aggravation
comes from the Swedish implementation I'm using, but I thought I
might as well throw out a query to the Net.
  Namely, if and when anybody has found better values than the default
ones for hyphenation zone etc, I sure would like to see them. I'm
mainly working with column widths around 50 mm (that's roughly 2 inches,
for the measurably impaired ;-) with 9 pt body text and my main trouble
comes from the fact that the automated settings just don't work
"automatically" -- a lot of lines that look just OK on a WYSIWYG Mac
screen (w/ ATM) are marked as "problem" lines by PageMaker, whereas
lines I'd never want to see in print are never flagged by the same
algorithm (and sometimes I even have to +force+ the program to insert a
hyphen; it won't break the line even if I insert a command-hyphen
[discretionary hyphen]).
  I would probably like to edit the kerning info on some fonts if I
really start working on this. If anybody knows anything at all
about PageMaker's kerning system, I'd like to hear from you.


/* era */

--
era eriksson  .obMantra: Fest alla dagar .obDiscl: I rarely know what I'm doing
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:05:41 EST
Reply-To:     LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
From:         LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
Subject:      Typeface squiggles

Hi-

Does anyone know why the typecase font in Windows 3.0 is wavy at certain
points when working with a smaller size?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                    ***********NLU***********
Linda Pennington                    Evanston       Tampa
Editor/Writer                       Chicago        McLean, VA
Academic Affairs                    Lombard        Milwaukee
National-Louis University           Elgin, IL      Beloit, WI
Lombard, Illinois                   St. Louis      Heidelberg, Germany
                                    Atlanta        Nowy Sacz, Poland
LPEN@NLU.BITNET                     ************************************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: tims@bvc.edu
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Subject: Re: page numbering
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:14:03 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <PAGEMAKR%93012010100731@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>, Josh Clark <JCLARK6@ONONDAGA.BITNET> writes:
> I am making a catalog for somebody. what I queation is how do I get the page
> numbers to come out right? I am making the catalog so that it can be stapled
> and mailed. All it really is is a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper turned sideways.
> Is there any way to do the page numbers than figuring it out myself? any help
> would be greatly appreciated as I am new at making this type of catolog.
> 
> thanks, Josh
> 
> Josh Clark
> jclark6@onondaga.bitnet

-----
Josh:  To place automatic page numbering markers on the master pages, go to 
master pages, use text tool and press Command + Option + P.  You can modify 
them from there.  Should look like:  LM/ Name or title  and RM/ Name or 
title.

HTH,

T.
...................................................
Tim Seydel, College Relations, Buena Vista College
Storm Lake, Iowa!  Internet address:  tims@bvc.edu
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Reply-To:     Ellen Lorang <0005403596@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         Ellen Lorang <0005403596@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Scanning

Thank you, thank you Jeff Bone for today's mail with the Scanning
FAQs. I've never paid too much attention to them before, being limited
to a hand held scanner, monochrome monitor, 300 dpi laser printer.
I use my scanner for limited scanning of line art which I then trace
in Illustrator. I put out lots of newsletters, and get halftones
made traditionally, and settle for either 300 dpi and a lot of
paste up or paying for lino, then a lot of paste up.

So I'm getting excited about the new crop of 600 dpi printers,
especially the 11x17 (and the hopeful reduced prices). I'm saving
my pennies for a grayscale card for my 2-page monitor, a grayscale
flatbed scanner, and a 600 dpi 11-17 printer. Which leads me to
my question --

Will I be satisfied? The scans would be primarily photos, often
from color originals, or people for newsletters, to be printed
on 60# offset or web offset. I look forward to the obvious
benefits -- being able to manipulate the scans, size them all
independently (right now I gang them to save $$), etc. But will
a scan from say a HP scanjet at 600 (or should it be lower?) and
output at 600 dpi be a significant reduction in quality? Of
course, text would be a huge improvement over 300, I realize,
and a big cost savings over paying lino costs.
But will I
still end up wanting to get halftones done traditionally?

Also, Jeff -- you mentioned the "new QMS 960" in your FAQ. Is
that a typo, and you mean the 860, or if not, what are the
specs on the 960?

TIA, Ellen Lorang (elorang@MCImail.com)
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:15:12 -0700
Reply-To:     "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TAN: Several Topics

>3: At last I got some time to download and read (with great pleasure) the
>   complete Pagemaker FAQ and its associated files. I couldn't make out how
>   important were the presences of Monte and Jeff Bone to all of us, sub-
>   scribers of PAGEMAKR-L. The Scanner tips is a real professional piece,
>   very well written and usefull. Congratulations.

Amaury:
  I would like to double your words of thanks to Jeff and Monte, whose
  presences are an incredible asset to every one subscribed to the list.
  I would also like to add thanks to Cindy Stone, Jeff Needleman, Laura
  (the DocWoman), Henry Budgett, Ken Weiss, and Greg DeBruyn -- all who
  also contributed much to the success of the FAQ. They all deserve
  credit!


>4: Finally I found very funny a tiny mistake which was made about my
>   nickname which I came across when reading the WHO'S WHO document:
>   Yes, I understand my nickname will sound a female nick to an english
>   speaking conscience; but it really sounds a male one to a latin ear
>   (maybe because you'll probably put the stress in the first syllab
>   making it sound like "Maureen", "Mary" or other english female name,
>   The correct pronounce stresses the last part of the word: "Mau-ree"
>   So, I'm really a guy, not a gal.

Sorry! I never new -- I had a good female friend once whose given
name was Maureen (with the stress on the second syllable too.) I had
absolutely no idea -- and will fix the survey entry for the next release.
My apologies in my assumption...

Geof.


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Geof Peters                                     TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
Owner, Veritas Software,
Student, and a dabbler             The important thing is not to stop
in Desktop Publishing                 questioning.  - Albert Einstein
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Reply-To:     Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
From:         Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      TAN: Job Opportunities

Howdy and Happy New Year All:

Well, after making a few phone calls, I've finally received the January
issue of NADTP.  This month's classifieds are few with many (perhaps
even all) repeated from the November posting.  December's issue had no
listings.

Jobs are as follows:

*1*
DTP Service Bureau Salesperson Sought - NJ company seeks dedicated individual
to help service its existing clients and expand its customer base.  Salary
is base plus commission, benefits include health plan, pension plan and
expense account.  Send resume to: Compulith Inc., 150 Anderson Ave.,
Moonachie, NJ  07074, Attn: Mr. Eric de Torres.

*2*
Freelance Artists - Galaxy Graphics Inc., seeks several freelance artists
to create stunning backgrounds for presentation use.  We support PC/Mac,
Powerpoint, Persuasion PCS and PICT.  Call Tracy Harper at (703) 802-1111.

*3*
Publications Design Associate - The Wilderness Society has an opening for
a publication design associate in its national headquarters in Washington,
DC.  Send resume and salary requirement to: The Wilderness Society, Public
Affairs Dept. (Attn: J.N. Lamb), 900 17th Street NW, Washington, DC
20006-2596 or fax to (202)429-8443.

*4*
Freelance Mac Designers - We are seeking experts in all Mac software to
create business graphics, newsletters, marketing and sales materials,
technical illustrations.  Experienced with Quark, FreeHand, Illustrator and
Photoshop.  All hours and rates available.  Positions in NY/NJ/CT/PA.
Call: Mary at Design on Disk, (201)837-7171.

*5*
Mac DTP/PrePress Software Users and Production Managers - Wanted by the
DTP Connection Personnel Service.  Candidates will be considered nationally
by PrePress shops, Commercial printers, Design and Advertising agencies,
and in-house Corporate Design departments.  Call (510)426-7450 or send
resume and samples to: 5918 Via Del Cielo, Pleasanton, CA  94566.
********************************************************************
Laura
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:29:24 -0700
Reply-To:     "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      Where to find the FAQ...

> I am new to this list. Geof Peters mentioned a FAQ file that had been
> produced by some of the members of this list. I think that this would
> be useful to me. How can I obtain the FAQ file?

Alan and the list:
  The FAQ can be downloaded via anonymous FTP from WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU
  in the doc\misc\pagemakr directory. If you do not know how to FTP,
  let me know and we can step you through it. There are also a whole
  bunch of other goodies that are available with FAQ.

  If you do not have FTP capability then I can send the FAQ directly
  to you through email.

  Geof.


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Geof Peters                                     TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
Owner, Veritas Software,
Student, and a dabbler             The important thing is not to stop
in Desktop Publishing                 questioning.  - Albert Einstein
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Reply-To:     Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
From:         Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      TAN: Free Mag

Ack! I should have finished going through my mail before sending the last
post.  Anyway, for those of you into multimedia, there's a freebie mag
called "NewMedia".  Write to NewMedia, P.O. Box 1771, Riverton, NJ
08077-7331, and request a "free subscription" form (be sure to have it
sent to your place of employment if possible, to avoid a subscription fee).

They're throwing in a copy of "NewMedia's 1994 Multimedia Tool Guide", so
what the heck - go for it!

Laura
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From:         "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      TAN: Credit shows in Pagemaker, Windows...

Maureen and the list:

Thanks for mentioning the "Credit list" in Pagemaker by using the SHIFT
key and selecting "About Pagemaker". Michael Miller, a columnist for PC
Magazine just did an article on these hidden screens, some of the quite
elaborate, in the october 27, 1992 issue of PCMAG. Here, he lists screens
for Excel, Window Write, Word, NDW, hDC programs, and Corel Draw, to name
a few. He wrote about the secret screens in Win 3.1, Word 2.0 and Ami Pro
2.0 in an August issue (I have already torn that one up -- sorry). I know
you were interested in the Windows 3.1 dig specifically. I know it had
something to do with clicking on the different colors of the window pane
and I think typing something (WIN). I just tried to do it myself, but
could not get it to work. Maybe someone else has an August edition of PCMAG
if you all are really interested.

To work like this all day is to play!

Geof.
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Reply-To:     crjames <james.dacey@SDRC.COM>
From:         crjames <james.dacey@SDRC.COM>

Subscribe, Help and FAQ please!
james.dacey@sdrc
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From:         "I couldah been ah contendah..." <PEAKE@UNCA.EDU>
Subject:      Mac PM 5.0

Does PM 5.0 offer any improvements to the Image Control section of the Element
Menu? For that matter, is 5.0 officially shipping yet? Has anyone on the list
taken delivery?

I'd be interested in hearing about the Image Control enhancements from someone
besides Aldus propaganda.

Thanks.

Steve Peake
peake@uncavx.unca.edu
peake@unca.bitnet
From: tims@bvc.edu
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Subject: Re: Cut or Copy
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:50:21 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930120101858.288@safety.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>, Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL> writes:
> How can I cut or copy a graphic in PM that I can paste and then move?
> When I cut and paste now, I get it to paste ok, but when I try
> to move it, it won't let me. I get this funny looking box with an
> arrow on it when I try to move it.
> 
> 
> Jim Charles
> Computer Data Systems Inc.
> Naval Surface Warfare Center
> Crane, Indiana
--------------------------------

Jim:  It sounds like what is happening is you are pasting or importing the 
graphic element into a text block.  PM then view it as an "in-line 
graphicc" and won't let you freely move it on the page.  Solutions:
- get the arrow tool and select the graphic and choose cut from the edit
menu.  this should remove the graphic from the text block.  Ensure that 
there are no text blocks slected and you do not have a cursor flashing 
anywhere, then paste.  This will paste the graphic outside the text block 
and allow you to move it around.

- when you import a graphic, make sure the radio buttons have "import as 
independent graphic" checked, and not "import as in-line graphic."  This 
will dissallow PM from putting the graphic within the text block.

HTH,

TiM
.................................................
TiM Seydel, Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, Iowa
internet address:  tims@bvc.edu
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