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From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Archival albums
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:55:47 GMT
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In article <3620@randvax.rand.org> pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren) writes:
>Does anyone know of a family album like the kind you see everywhere
>but won't ruin photos and old letters?  By album, I don't want
>photographic sleeves and acid-free paper, or little corners to
>mount things.  In other words, NOT the kind of thing found in
>catalogs such as "Light Impressions."
>
>I want a peel-back clear cover over the "gummy" paper that holds
>things in place--standard album stuff.  I've recently seen in a
>card store an album that claims the plastic has no CVC in it--
>is this what I want?
>
>The reason I want this type of album is because it's easy to
>use for the many sizes of paper of have (many of which are fortune
>cookie fortune size -- can't see using sleeves or mounting corners
>on these scraps of paper).

The last thing you want is the peel-back clear cover over the "gummy" paper
that holds things in place.  The gum will damage the paper over time (I
assume you want to use it for more than a year or two!).

Check out stamp mounts and supplies at a local stamp dealer.  You can get
strips of CVC-free pockets that are clear in front and black in back, which
you can cut to the length you need.  The back is gummy on the OUTSIDE, not
touching the paper you want to preserve, so you can attach the pocket to
any kind of album page.  You can also get CVC-free clear envelopes, sleeves,
and album pages to hold papers of all sizes.

If you don't have a stamp dealer in town or he doesn't carry that sort of
stuff, call Subway Shop in NYC and ask for their catalog.  Their 800 number
is listed with the 800 operator (1-800-555-1212).  This mail order company
has excellent and varied stock at good prices.  (I'm a customer, not an
employee.)  If after you get their catalog you have any questions, please
feel free to email me.


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From: Lynn.Olivier@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Lynn Olivier)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: hello!
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:39:54 -0600

I just logged on to this echo and am learning the ropes. Just thought I would
say hi from St Paul, MN.  Lynn

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From: cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM (Cliff Manis)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Trip, Genealog, Email
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:47:00 GMT
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UPDATE:  On Washington, DC trip.

I will be departing tommorrow morning at 0500 for DC.

Current plans are 42 days TDY there, and return here for a short
period....  Not sure about the rest at this point.

>>  I have been selected for an Evaluation Board in Washington, DC,
>>  which will be selecting the UNIX Hardware that will be utilized
>>  by 3 branches of the service and associated with the MEDICAL community
>>  during 1995-2000.
>>
>>  I will be taking a Zenith "notebook" computer, and FAST modem
>>  to communicate with my 'csoftec' system, so I will be reading
>>  the mail here on a regular basis.

Anyone having comments to this message should reply
direct to:   cmanis@csoftec.csf.com

I will visit the Library of Congress many time, and also the National
Archives there, and LDS (Family History Centers) sites there also, and
will attempt to gather information which I can/will share with this
Mailing List when I return.

I will be utilizing the FidoNet (Genealogy Echo) while there, and
probably be calling CAPFUG (301-290-9530) while in that area.

Anyone may send me items and files direct to be uploaded to GENEALOG,
these will be will uploaded, but maybe not quite as quickly as usual.

Good Luck to all,  Cliff

Cliff Manis         K4ZTF        Manis/Manes Family History
Researching: MANIS MANES WHITEHORN CANTER BIRD FRANCIS NEWMAN
USMAIL:   P. O. Box 33937, San Antonio, Texas  78265-3937
BITNET:   cmanis%csoftec.csf.com@NDSUVM1  Caretaker of GENEALOG
INTERNET: cmanis@csoftec.csf.com
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From: us291442@mmm.serc.3m.com (Mark B. Mizen)
Subject: national archives
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:19:06 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: 3M Company
Keywords: 

Where are the regional centers of the national archives?  Does
anyone have a list of locations?  I do not seem to be the
only one interested, so please post to the net.  Thanks.

Mark
mbmizen@mmm.com

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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:47:03 -0400
Reply-To:     "John Buck, Jr." <usr6715a@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         "John Buck, Jr." <usr6715a@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: mutiple marraige dates (keeping track there
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

The "celebrated date" seems to be the most practical when dealing with
living relatives, but... the ACTUAL dates, if known, would be the only
proper way to record whatever information a researcher comes in contact
with.  Don't forget to document, so you have a reference to where the
information acquired was found.  This is helpful for future researchers
who follow you, and find that there is more than one date available for a
particular instanance.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:22:11 PDT
Reply-To:     Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      failed mail to Hazelwood at Kentucky U.
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Date:     Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:03:02 GMT
From: s Mail System (MMDF) <mmdf@ms.uky.edu>
Subject:  Failed mail  (msg.aa08664)
    Your message could not be delivered to
'uk02757 (host: mozart.ms.uky.edu) (queue: baduser)' for the following
reason:  ' (USER) Unknown user name in "uk02757"'

    Your message follows:

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:00:49 PDT
From: Tom Lincoln <lincoln@iris.rand.org>
To: uk02757@ms.uky.edu
Subject: Re: HAZELWOOD's in OKLAHOMA!!!!!
Newsgroups: soc.roots

Well it ain't England, but Melvyl found:

Author: United States. Dept. of Justice.
Title:  Calvin T. Hazelwood vs. the United States and the Kiowa and
Comanche bands or tribes of Indians. No. 2276. Defendants'
request for findings of fact--objections to findings of fact
requested by claimant--brief and argument of counsel for
defense [by] L.W. Colby, Assistant Attorney-General. [n.p.,
189-?]
Description:    11 p. 23 cm.

Notes:  Cover-title.
At head of title: In the Court of Claims of the United States.
Indian depredations.

Subjects:       Kiowa Indians.
Comanche Indians.
Other entries: Hazelwood, Calvin T.
United States.

Call numbers:   UCB     BancroftE98.C62 U5 no.4
Note:   Its Collection of briefs ... no. 4.


you never know...

Tom

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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Searching for BEESON
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:54:27 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <ROOTS-L%92073008045551@VM1.NODAK.EDU> Thomas Kruse <KRUSE@IPFWVM.BITNET> writes:
>Paul H. Risk inquires about Isaac Beeson in Henry County...
>
>    I don't have Beeson relation so I haven't done anything with
>the name, but I did do research at a little place called the Historical
>Museum and Beeson Library in Hartford City, Blackford county, Indiana.
>It has a lot of handwritten historical and genealogical information

Threre was a recent discouraging posting about the possability of
donating genealogical information to a library  because they would not
know what to do with it...

It is an important warning. I library that is concerned with the usual
services and has no particular interest in local history or genealogy
is unlikely to be a proper spot. The advice to put it in order is
also very appropriate.

However, I have dealt with organizations like the Hoenstine Rental Library
which specializes in genealogical material and which will deal with
pretty shaggy stuff, putting a cover on it and summarizing its content,
whether hand written or not, and then putting it in the catalog.

The above reference is yet another.

For the person who posted the original inquiry, it just requires a
diligent search for a sympathetic home.

Tom
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Info about SHIPS ? ?  a piggy-back question..
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:28:20 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <9207260931.AA04987@csoftec.csf.com> cmanis@csoftec.csf.com writes:
>I would appreciate any info, even the smallest bit on either of
>these two ships, which came to the US in the early 1800's.
>
>Their names:   Ship "PATIENCE" and Ship "HARLE"
>
Looking for a merchant ship "WHITE SWAN" which must have gone from
England (or Scotland) to Philadelphia, Newcastle DE, or Baltimore
in the summer of 1784....

Likewise... any snip of information welcome..

Tom

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From:         WEILAND@UPS.EDU
Subject:      Name "KARR"
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Is anyone out there familiar with the Surname Karr?
My g.grandfather's middle name was Karr, and no one in the family can tell
me where it might have come from.  I understand that quite often, in the
1700's and 1800's male children were often given a middle name that was
a mother's or grandmother's maiden name.
I have been able to trace my back as far as my g.grandfather, who was
reportedly born in Ross Co. Ohio, around 1845, but Ross Co. has no record
of him nor his family.  They didn't keep birth records back then, but he
and his family do not show up anywhere in Ohio history.  Perhaps they
moved to Illinois shortly after his birth, or maybe were just passing
through Ross County?  He listed his residence as Richfield, Illinois, when
he enlisted in the Infantry.

I hope someone out there has heard of or is researching "Karr"

Thank you,

Larry Hull
From: suzanne@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Suzanne Barrett)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: CLARK, Thomas - 1598/99
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:50:25 GMT
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Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.

Searching for ancesters of Thomas Clarke(1598/99-1686).  Came from Saltash 
on the Brig "Anne" 1623.  M. Susanna Ring.  Any info greatly appreciated.
Suzanne
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:56:56 CDT
Reply-To:     Brad Green <green@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU>
From:         Brad Green <green@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Gedcom problem
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.Edu

Many thanks to Bob Epley, John Pimentel, Gary Steiner, Carol Botteron,
John Lewis and Cliff Manis who answered my question on the gedcom problem
I was having.  I guess part of the problem is the different versions of
PAF around, and most of the help I got applied to the IBM version, but I
do appreciate the help anyway.  It's great to have this helpful group
around.

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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:23:31 PDT
Reply-To:     Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG>
Subject:      Donations.. discussion
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

This came to me... but looks appropriate for the net.

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From: Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Searching for BEESON
To: Tom Lincoln <lincoln@RAND.ORG>

I strongly suggest that anyone who wishes to donate genealogical material
to a library or archive consider a number of points. First, the material
is far more likely to be used if it is donated to a library, historical
society, etc that is located near where most of the persons came from.
For example, if your late ancestors settled Norwich, Connecticut, that
would be where most researchers would find the information of the greatest
use. Contacting one or more likely organizations (you can find them
listed in the American Library Directory by state and city) in advance
is nearly mandatory to ascertain that they do, in fact, wish to have
the stuff.

I wholeheartedly agree that organization of the materials, including
indexing if possible, is important to the likelihood that an organization
will accept the bequest. If you are not interested, or can't do it for
some reason, it might be worth your while to contact a librarian or
other qualified individual to do it for you. S/he also may be able
to give some guidance, even if s/he is not actually willing to do the
work.

Lucy Rowland
University of Georgia Libraries

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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:13:35 BST
Reply-To:     Phil Lloyd <lloyd@PRL.PHILIPS.CO.UK>
From:         Phil Lloyd <lloyd@PRL.PHILIPS.CO.UK>
Subject:      Surname BYARD
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@vm1.nodak.edu

On behalf of a friend, I would like find anyone out there
who is interested in the surname BYARD (or variants).
She is doing a one-name study of this name.

Any takers?

Phil
lloyd@prl.philips.co.uk
From: sophia.brown@wugate.wustl.edu!travel (Sophia Brown) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: SEARCHING FOR ANCESTORS
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:16:00 GMT
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Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: sophia.brown@wugate.wustl.edu!travel (Sophia Brown) 


                 SOME ANCESTORS WHOM WE ARE RESEARCHING

        Georgia          North & South Carolina          Tennessee
        DOWNS                   CHARLES                  BASS
        JAMISON                 COKER                    BATEY
                                DOUGLAS                  BEATTY
        Illinois                DOWNS                    CHARLES
        COKER                                            COKER
        COWENS               Pennsylvania                JAMISON
        EDINGTON              BLACKBURN                  SMITH
        HUNTER                CALDWELL
        SCHROEDER             EDINGTON              Virginia
        WILSON                GREGG         BASS     CLACK     DOWNS
                              JAMISON       BATTE    CHARLES   HICKS
        Kentucky              WILSON        BEATTY   COKER     LANIER
        COWAN/COWENS                        BOLLING  COURTNEY
        HUNTER                              BROWN

        We will gladly share information regarding any of the above
        families in our ancestry.

        Kindest regards,
        Sophia

 * OLX 2.2 * BASS BATEY COKER COWENS DOWNS EDINGTON GREGG HICKS SMITH
                                                                           
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From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      Armstrong Research
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Has anyone done any research and found any Armstrong ancestors that might be
related to Armstrongs from Virginia?

Send me e-mail if you have

Eddie Armstrong (aisarmstrong%ist%vmi@ist.vmi.edu)
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Reply-To:     Eugene E Rosen <eer@WORLD.STD.COM>
From:         Eugene E Rosen <eer@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wall Chart
Comments: To: Don Wiggins <wiggins@OSIRIS.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list ROOTS-L <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Don, Mark Taylor (MarkTaylor@aol.com) did this for the mac with a program
called GedCompanion. He is very knowledgeable and might give you a lead
for a similar capability with a dos machine.  good luck.  gene



Eugene E. Rosen                                           GENIE: erosen
22 Riverside Road                                       COMPUSERVE:74066,3444
Sandy Hook, Ct. 06482-1213                              AOL: Gene Rosen

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On Fri, 24 Jul 1992, Don Wiggins wrote:

> Has anyone ever seen a program that will allow you to print a wall
> chart of _everyone_ in your DOS version PAF database?  A few months ago
> I found one that the author stated was pretty buggy, but that it was
> just a first cut.  I couldn't get it to run at all.
>  ========================================================================
>  |Don Wiggins                         |            _Researching_        |
>  |306 East Franklin                   |       WIGGINS, STALEY, HALL,    |
>  |Fisher, IL  61843-9440              |       BIRKHIMER, MCINTIRE,      |
>  |email:  wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |       PARK(E), CHANCE, MUNRO....|
>  ========================================================================
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 12:21:00 MST
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From:         MARLEYT@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Subject:      help!

i have a program someone gave me called family tree 2.0<?>
i am trying to merge and file and cant.
Does anyone have the manual to this prog and that can email me how to do it.
I would really appreciate it you can.



Email
Marleyt@ccit.arizona.edu

Snail
Marley Treadwell
8550 E old spanish trail #224
Tucson arizona 85710-4929


Researching:Mclaughin,Oneil,Masterson,gookin,waters, spead,kelly, maguire
This is my side.
Husbands side:Treadwell, Burgess,Wilson,bride,mcbride
,
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From: dbrus.Unify.Com.ceb@unify.uucp (Caroline E. Bryan)
Subject: CRANE, Chicago, and WESSON, Detroit, 1871
Reply-To: dbrus.Unify.Com.ceb@unify.uucp (Caroline E. Bryan)
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, California
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:38:03 GMT

I have been given the opportunity to buy a warranty deed in which Albert and
Anna CRANE sell property to a William B. WESSON of Detroit on Oct. 17, 1871.
Signing the warranty deed are also Charles A. CRANE and Frank P. WHIPPLE.
Mr. Whipple was an officer of the court (a commissioner).  The deed includes
an affidavit from Anna Crane affirming that her signature was not coerced.

If you would like to buy it, please let me know a.s.a.p.  I must buy or
return the document by COB Monday, Aug. 3.  It would cost me $6.50; it would
cost you $6.79 ($0.29 postage).

Home phone 916-668-6623; work phone 916-928-6244; machines on both.


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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:54:38 EDT
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From:         botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU
Subject:      "Family Tree" software for Apple
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

The following software was advertised in the magazine "InCider/A+."
It is not listed in the Apple/Mac software FAQ.  Does anyone know
anything about it, especially if it works well on an Apple IIGS
and is clear enough for a beginner to figure out?

Family Tree
Let Family Tree automatically link together your family's history
into an easy to operate (and fun to use) data file.  Print a wide
variety of charts, namelists, ahnentafels and group sheets to your
printer or AppleWorks files.  It even shows family relationships!
Imports data from Appleworks or LDS-PAF data files.  For Apple
enhanced IIe, IIc or IIGS.
   Truly a best buy ... $39.95+$2.50 S+H... 90 day satisfaction
guarantee...
  Robert M. Merrill
  6180 Via Real A-25
  Carpenteria, CA 93013

Thanx for any comments on this or other software for the Apple IIGS.
Carol Botteron    botteron@bu-it.bu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:50:29 -0400
Reply-To:     "John Buck, Jr." <usr6715a@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         "John Buck, Jr." <usr6715a@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Help with Pennsylvania Locations
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.EDU

Can anyone identify either of the two following locations in Pennsylvania.
They have been mentioned as residences for ancestors we're researching, but
we haven't been able to find either of them on any of our available maps or
atlas'.
            1. Mt. Independence, Pennsylvania
            2. Yaugers (perhaps Yougers) Hollow, Pennsylvania

John Buck, Jr. - 1779 Middlehurst Road - Cleveland Hts., Ohio - 44118

Researching: (In: Ill., Tenn., Penn., Mass.):
BUCK/SUTER/HAYES/HARFORD/RICHARDSON/LANDRITH(LANDRETH)/DENTON/GOOLSBY/
CURRY/THOMPSON/COVALT/AYERS/VANCIL/GASTON.

and...

(In: Wis., N.Y., Mass., Conn.):
SMITH/OLSON/GROVESTEEN/BRAMAN/DOWNS/FRANCIS/SPOONER/SOOTS/FERGUSON/
HILLIKER.
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From: Jeffrey T Hazelwood <uk02757@nx25.mik.uky.edu>
Subject: HAZELWOOD's in ENGLAND!!!!!
Reply-To: uk02757@ms.uky.edu
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:57:22 GMT

I'm searching for anyone named Hazelwood in England.  Please respond to my  
e-mail address.

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Reply-To:     Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      ships:
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hello!!
i contacted the peabody museum,east india square,salem,mass01970 andthe
university of baltimore,sshsa collection,langsdale library,1420 maryland
ave.,baltimore,maryland 21201-5779, and they researched the ship i
was looking for and gave me a lot of helpful information.i also called the
national archives andd they also researched a ship for me,they are about
two to three weeks on doing the research but they will send you a letter
 even if they do not find the information that you are seeking.if you need
more information than this please contact me.
e-mail   durango@tso.uc.edu
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