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From: akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes)
Subject: Re: Super Dimensional Century ORGUSS
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:07:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <selnNfG00WBNI3k2ht@andrew.cmu.edu>, Robert Everett Brunskill <rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> That's Ok, you don't have to do that, only if you're REALLY bored.  By
> the way, is there an english translation of the Orguss series to comics
> (sounds like it)?  Is it still available?

There is a 5 volume "anime comic" from Shogakukan.  That is to say,
it is a comic made from anime cels, and it is in japanese.  Most likely,
it is out of print.  I am not aware of any manga adaptation.

-steve
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Subject: A.N.I.M.E. meeting
Organization: Tomobiki-cho
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:38:24 GMT

Could someone re-post the details of the next A.N.I.M.E. meeting in
Palo Alto, CA?  (Either that, or mail them to me.)

Thanks in advance,
--David
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From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: re: Help identifying movie: 
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 16:32:47 HST
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539

Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> writes:

> You purchased a copy of the most recent movie, `Itsu Datte My Darling', which
> was premiered at the 10th Anniversary celebration last year.
>
>   <Stuff deleted here>
>
> The plot is extremely obvious and unsubtle.  It's a slapstick; enjoy it as
> such and don't worry too much about the dialog.
>
> Of course, it all ends up with a happy ending.  Leo finally declares his love
> for Rupika, Ataru gets the antidote, and all goes back to normal, or what
> passes for normal in Tomobiki-Cho...

Happy ending, slapstick, obvious and sappy (<- all in GREAT WAYS!) are pretty
much characteristic in *all* of Takahashi's UY and Ranma movies aren't they?

Not sure about Rumic world though..



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From: kennehra@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan)
Subject: SILENT MOBIUS 2!
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:31:11 GMT



HI!  I just got done watching "Silent Mobius."  It was AWESOME!!!
When is Silent Mobius 2 coming out???  I can't wait!!

- Rich
  kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu
From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Akron Animation Association October 10th meeting
Date: 1 Oct 1992 21:12:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The AKRON ANIMATION ASSOCIATION will have a showing of anime on
Saturday, October 10th.   

(Tri-A always has meetings the 2nd and 4th Saturdays of every month)

What will be shown?

10:00am-10:50am          Lupin the III TV eps # 145 & 155 (sub)   
                            (The Miyazaki Episodes)
10:50am-11:50am          Gundam 0083:Stardust Memory #7-8 (sub)
11:50am-12:20pm          Video Girl Ai 1
12:20pm-2:00pm           Robot Carnival (sub)
2:00pm-3:00pm            Urusei Yatsura '87 (Inaba-kun) (sub)
3:00pm-Close             Ranma 1/2 TV eps # 1-4 (sub)

Where: The Akron Public Library, Main Branch, Auditorium (3rd floor)
        Akron, Ohio

Why:Where else in NE Ohio can you see anime on the BIG screen and in      
STEREO!  

All showing are completely FREE!  Bring your friends!

If anyone needs directions, email me.

Jay Harvey 
Tri-A VP 
Anime Hasshin member
(bs783@cleveland.freenet.edu)
"Ross Perot:The Kasuga Kyosuke of Politics!"
From: coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Serious r.a.a mascot suggestion
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:15:21 GMT
Organization: Shadow Walker's Anonymous

In article <6837@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>
>	Considering the lunacy in this area, I think there is only
>ONE appropriate mascot:
>
>	The one, the ONLY... LOOOOOOOORRRD ROBIN!

YES!  He's got my vote!

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From: cg181fab@icogsci1.ucsd.edu (Steerpike)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: That Mobius Trailer s
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:27:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.39077
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <> MARK.CHILENSKAS@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Mark Chilenskas") writes:
>Steerpike writes:
>>Just exactly what is the name of the song that is used in the
>>Silent Mobius trailer? WIth the bass and the screwed-up piano?

>Screwed up piano?  Screwed Up Piano?????
>Gack!  The pianist obviously has heard of Thelonius Sphere Monk,
>and you think the technique is screwed up?  Of course there are
>lots of seconds used!

Hey, I like the song. But that piano is definitely messed up, famous
composers or no (of course, I think Picasso is "messed up", so what
do I know).

Gomen nasai!

steerpike@ucsd.edu
All now with wings! -- Jane's Addiction
From: TILTONJ%UOFPORT.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (JAMES TILTON)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Rare items for sale!
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:20:00 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Original_To:  BITNET%"ANIME-L@VTVM1.BITNET"

I also need Macross 3,4,7 for my set......

James Tilton
University of Portland
tiltonj@uofport.bitnet
From: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Miyu/Frame (General)
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:07:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.80756
Reply-To: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: chrismg@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu

I'm at a somewhat sticky point in the story and could use some input.
Mail me at: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu.
(Or post, I read the group fairly often.)

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Saru  : "Ahem, ahem"
Yakumo: "Saru, do you believe me?"
Saru  : "Where's my Hong Kong souvenir?"
From: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: MS Gundam Film #1
Date: 29 Sep 1992 03:31:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
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In a previous article, maxxon@swob.nullnet.fi (Mikko Kurki-Suonio) says:

>boat can sink a battleship, but the battleship shoots back too...
>
>

Actually, it takes a LOT of torpedos (and bombs) to sink a battleship.
Just look at what it took to sink the Bismark, or the Yamato.  It took
something like 19 torpedos and 20 to 30 bombs to sink that ship.

					Eric
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Super Dimensional Century ORGUSS
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:45:33 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


A nude pic of Miya Hayase from Macross flashes on one of the Chiram
scanners for a second.  I wasn't looking for it; I noticed something
odd, and had to scroll it back to check.  That Macross cameo is a
little less obvious than the one where Kei is thinking of his
girlfriends.
 
According to Animag, there are 35 Orguss episodes.  12 volues, one
every three months.
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

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From: 12mwingfield@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: DC anime???
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:52:58 GMT

Say, fellow anime-freaks, I need to have a distrubtion list of all anime 
stores around here in Washington DC.  And if you happen to know any of them,
please E-mail me!!  Thank you!!

Wingnuts

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Organization: Junior, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 15:50:07 -0400 
From: Kenichiro Tanaka <kt12+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ranma's mom and other frustrating things
	<38978@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>

On 04-Oct-92 in Re: Ranma's mom and other f..
user Panda @sdcc13.ucsd.edu writes:

>	Kasumi LACKS a clue?! Na Ni, how dare anyone insult my Godess :-)
>Jokes aside, you must remember that Kasumi is not STUDIP. She is just play
>the traditional Japanese lady/mother role.

>[stuff]

This looks like it may degenerate into an argument rather than a
discussion (^_^) but anyway...  I don't think she's _stupid_ in a
literal sense but she really is slow - it's no coincidence that her name
means "haze."

>	Just to add to the point. Who in Ranma 1/2 is more intelligent or
>more educated than Kasumi? (Recall that she studys the books she borrows from
>To-fu sensi. We don't see anyone else studying much in the series.)

I think just about anyone in the series is more aware of what is going
on than she is.  She has a lot of sensitivity and makes some surprising
insights sometimes but for the most part, she is pretty slow.  And I
think those books she borrows from Toufu sensei are meant more as a joke
than anything.  They're books about weak/vital points in the human
anatomy (like when you want to kill someone) and how to treat dislocated
joints.  :)


Ken
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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: some anime video remarks/reviews ( no spoilers ..)
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:47:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.021607.8084@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.002702.12857@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>>In article <Ty3-gt-@engin.umich.edu> Joe Petrow <joepet@engin.umich.edu> writes:
>>>similar to what the video itself is like.  Was Animeigo deliberately
>>>trying to make this look like a porno of what???
>>
>>Heh, perhaps, Animeigo is trying USMC's marketing style. ^_^
>
>It wasn't AnimEigo.  Those are the ORIGINAL covers from the Japanses release.
>Maybe the Japanese figured sex sells, but don't blame AnimEigo.

Oh, it was *definitely* AnimEigo.  They didn't *have* to use the
original covers on the Japanese release...they just wanted to... :-)

...though I, for one, am glad that they are doing it this way...

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From: wswatt1@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (watt wing sang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: #1 ED: KOR: ED1 "Natsu no Mirage" translation/lyrics
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:28:53 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong

donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja) writes:

>>Natsu no MIRAAJU (Summer mirage) - Wada Kanako
>>"Kimagure Orange Road" ending theme (1987)

>Could anyone tell me which CD this song comes from. (I know it comes
>from KOR, but which of their CD has it.) Also the "Tell me, tell me"
>opening song. 

 "Natsu no MIRAAJU (Summer mirage)" : KOR Sound Color 1
 "Orange mystery"                   : KOR Sound Color 2


>Donald Wihardja
>Otaku-in-the-making

 Best Regards,
 Vincent. 
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: any anime .fli's out there?
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:00:01 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <147ns7-.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com writes:
 >  
 > Unfortunately, the sizes of the resulting .fli (Autodesk Animators format
 > for those of you who are unaware...) are very large.  I once grabbed the
 > scene of the Sailor Senshi transforming...the resulting file was something
 > like 8Meg...these things are even worse than sound files. ^_^

I can see it now. Desperate otakus will start pressing their own
CD-ROM's just so they can easily store all of their pics, sounds and
animations. :) [I should know, I have well over 130Mb of gifs and
sounds on floppy backup... <sigh>]

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From: saint@lina.dei.unipd.it (Gian_Uberto Lauri 228495)
Subject: Re: Mazinger Z / Dragon Ball Z
Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:40:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.231703.69@iris-dcp.es> mcastro@iris-dcp.es writes:
>
>Mazinger Z was possibly the first anime I saw -if my 1/2 bit of memory
>doesn't lie. But thinking about the `Z' while watching `Dragon Ball Z'
>I began to wonder if there were a previous series `Mazinger'.
>Does anyboby knows about that?. 
>Is common in anime/manga the `Z'  termination for 2nd parts?.

I don't know if Z is standard for second part, but Mazinger Z should
be the first giant robot by Go Nagai. Dragonball should have mimicked
its Z and ZZ from Gundam.

o   oooooo	Gian Uberto Lauri	
      o    o	saint@alessia.dei.unipd.it
     o o
From: marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: final volume of Gunbuster: availible at Japan
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:45:33 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Sep29.121537.2770@nic.csu.net>, ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg) writes:

> o Gunbuster : Saw stories III & IV. Cool plots, though a bit confusing
>               in terms of what the aliens were doing in the first place
>               (though, of course, that is not the point :-)). I really
>               liked the shorts between stories. The Quantum Mechanics
>               they mentioned is roughly accurate ( I won't judge it 
>               in depth since its not my speciality). I also got
>               a big kick out of the anime coments.. Perhaps we
>               should have an award named after her for the "biggest" female
                                                 ^^^
               Which her do you mean? the main character, her partner, the 
Russian girl, Gunbuster was riddled with female characters if you can't 
remember names at least describe the character you're talking about (even 
if you do because I don't remember the names.) Remember, the use of a 
pronoun needs to refer to a previously mentioned noun.

>               otaku on the net (I'm setting myself up here .. I know it:-)1)
>               lets not bring back the "Breasts in anime" thread again :-))
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Subject: Re: Robotech: The Movie
From: equinox@netlink.cts.com (Saar Picker)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 18:33:19 PDT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

> 
> Cannon's never released the film beyond the test screenings, so it's nigh-
> impossible to get a hold of it.
> 

Actually, cannon did open the film but they got too many complaints from 
angry mothers who took their kids to see it thinking it was just another 
cartoon. Tehn cannon went bankrupt. Now, the film is probably circulating 
to select movie houses around the country. Other than that, it's 
impossible to find it cause it was never (to my knowledge) put out on 
video


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From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Ten-chan:  r.a.anime's Official Mascot?
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:58:34 GMT
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) writes:

>
> What about having Ten from URUSEI YATSURA as a mascot for the newsgroup?
> 1) He's cute.
> 2) He's anime-related.
> 3) He can flame like nobody's business.  :-/
>
> How about it?

Since the majority of users on r.a.a. are guys (1/2 are Hentai-sukebe guys)
maybe we should have a more appropriate (female) mascot.


>                           E n r i q u e  C o n t y
>                       The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
>                             jester@ihlpl.att.com
>                   Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T


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From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: Sazan Eyes ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:26:43 GMT

raa@guild.socal.com (Raa Lopez) writes:

>I have a Question ... I think I have translated the Other "Wu's" name, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have a Clue? Not Yakumo, the other one ... I have managed to get "Kinkra" but I'm not sure ...
    I believe the name is "Benares".

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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Anime Stuff, dead?
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 03:27:13 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <!=7nddg.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com writes:
 > >So where can we find Anime Stuff #17??  Is it on the FTP sites yet??
 >  
 > Is it not on network.ucsd.edu?  I haven't look yet.  Well, if Barry Brown
 > doesn't beat me to it, I'll put it on network.ucsd.edu

That's what I hate. Nobody has even mentioned that it's come out.
Sheesh. :)

Not all of us have access to FTP, only ftpmail, and we can't just spend
a fruitful 30 minutes hopping from ftp site to ftp site checking them
all out for new stuff. Announcements are welcome. Saves everyone some
time.

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From: y0l8009@tamsun.tamu.edu (Yoshih Lee)
Subject: Re: Vampire Princess Miyu (her companion's name)
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:31:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.205932.15083@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage) writes:
>It's written in Katakana (in the manga) and has a really wierd symbol that I
>don't have a clue how it's supposed to be pronounced.  The name looks like:
>
>  --------               |     \\       ---------
>------------        -----+------             |  /
>           |        |          |            /  /
>          /                   /            /--/
>         /                   /            /
>        /                   /            /
>      /                   /             /

Given the katakana, the transliteration should be "Ravaa".  If the original
character name is "Larva", then the appropriate kana should have been something
like `ra-a-va', `ra-a-ba', or even `ra-ru-va'/`ra-ru-ba' (for you Largo/Lalgo
debators!), and the debated kana for "Larva" was bad to begin with.

To add to the debate: is anyone out there *fluent* in Greek?  At least the
Japanese pronounce the name "Athena" more correctly than Americans, so maybe
an etymological search is in need?
From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 21:37:29 HST
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539

fleggett@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett) writes:

> In article <1af7nmINN1em@network.ucsd.edu> rcfg@chem.ucsd.edu (Fahey group) w
> >Nah, I've been a Jion suppoter since the beginning of Gundam. (^_^)
> >Besides, if you work for the Feds, you'll be treated like a shit when
> >they think you're no longer needed. Just take a look at Bright Noah
> >in Lightning Hathaway.
>
>      Well, actually, I asked that question in all seriousness.  Jions
> are constantly symbolized as space-faring Nazis.  And their motivations
> for achieving some sort of spacenoid independence seems to be all but
> made clear.  In fact, they could be construed as antagonist agressors...

        That's not being fair Fredd..  You could compare the Cross-bone
Vanguard to Nazis but the Jions are far from that bunch of racist bastards.


>      I'm just looking for reasons as to exactly why spacenoids possess
> this urge to release themselves from Earth connections.  What did the
> Earthnoid government do to these people that was so terrible?  And why
> are almost all Gundam stories told from the perspective of Federation
> and/or AEUG forces?

        (I think I'll let an expert handle this side of the rebuttle).

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