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From: machala@spdc.ti.com (Chuck Machala)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,tx.general,houston.general
Subject: Re: Floundering around Galveston?
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:33:56 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

cosc16tt@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.) writes:

>In article <machala.717692039@delphi> machala@spdc.ti.com (Chuck Machala) writes:

>>I go fishing a few times a year in the bay and at least once or twice stop off
>>at rollover to do some flounder fishing. It's about the only place to fish 
>>when the wind is blowing from the south and you don't have a boat. You can
>>wade along the cut and fish mud minnows or shrimp on the bottom for flounder.
>>Best when the tide is moving. Also, there was a write up in the Dallas Morning
>>News yesterday that said the flounder were now migrating out of the bay and
>>there is alot of action at the moment. good luck.

>I suspected Rollover Pass would be quite popular, but I am still
>unsure it is ideal for what I am looking for.  I understand that I can
>drag mud minnows on the bottom and all (we do this at Texas City Dike
>quite a bit), but I need to know if the water at Rollover Pass (and
>other places) is clear enough to do this gigging thing (you go out at
>night with lantern and gigs and stab the suckers!  It is really
>challenging...).  I kinda think it will be, but I know the tides can
>really get the water stirred up around there.  Any comments on this?

There are two places to go gigging at night, depending on wind direction.
#1 choice: the bolivar pocket. This is on the north side of the north jetty
  (I believe this is correct, I get north and south jetties confused). But it
  is on the bolivar side of the jetties. There are hundreds of acres of shallow
  water where flounder/redfish/trout hang out. Park on beach and walk towards 
  the jetties.
#2 choice: rollover. There is alot of shallow water on both sides of the pass.

--
              Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
From: fadushin@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Fred Dushin)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: SalmonRiver?
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:20:26 GMT
Distribution: ny
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Originator: fadushin@rodan.acs.syr.edu

Does anyone have any reports on Salmon/Steelhead
fishing on the Salmon River?  I want to go up soon
to do some fly fishing in Altmar.

F Dushin
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: wysk@watson.ibm.com (Drew Wyskida)
Subject: Re: SalmonRiver?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:06:00 GMT
Distribution: ny
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

I will be heading up there this Friday, just called and found out the river is packed with Kings.  They
are not as heavy in the smaller creeks as of yet though.  They are also hitting some Steelheads and
Browns in the river.
 
Any other info out there??

Wysk
From: laurie.walkear@f253.n620.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Laurie Walkear)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: WORMS IN FISH
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:40:00 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au


 > In South Australia, we have fish referred to as
 > barracouta (barracuda ?) which

No relation to barracuda I believe.

 > have parasitic worms in their gut.  Old hands say that
 > fish caught for food
 > should be gutted quickly to stop the worms getting
 > into the flesh.

You'll find that the worms are in the flesh too, even when freshly caught -
particularly in the 'loin'. Funnily enough they are in the healthiest
looking fish.

 > How true and what effect the worms have I don't know.

They can't have much effect. Many fishermen will eat the fish, with or
without the worm :-)

'couta are fished commercially right across sothern Australia. About 15
years ago they dissappeared, for no apparent reason. (They weren't
over-caught). But they are just making a comeback now. Once again, for no
apparent reason.

Regards;

Laurie.

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From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: HIBT on ESPN
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:11:15 GMT



Set Your VCRs.

According to my tv lisitngs, the 1 hour summary of the 1992 HIBT
(Thats Hawaii Invitational Billfish Tournament) will be
seen on ESPN Friday (Oct 9) at 7PM my time. Check local
listings for the time and date at your location. :-)
There was an exciting, white knuckle finish this year.

Be there, Aloha.
Wm.







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    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
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    Fish on the Byte
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
From: caldwell@cs.cornell.edu (Jim Caldwell)
Subject: Re: SalmonRiver?
Followup-To: rec.outdoors.fishing
Keywords: circus
Organization: Cornell University, CS Dept., Ithaca, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:03:09 GMT

I was up on the Salmon River in Pulaski N.Y. last Saturday.

I saw two large live Chinook dragged along the road and into the parking lot by a
cigar chomping fisherman; someone yelled, "He gonna have bad road rash."  I saw a
nervous snagger under the Altmar bridge looking anxiously up to the road and
casting into the fly fishing only section of river. I saw a gauntlet of forty to
fifty anglers throwing flys, standing shoulder to shoulder, upstream from my
position on the bank of the same section. I saw the drunken Russian fishing the
slot next to mine snag my line with his and yank it in, angrily yelling to his
friend on the far bank.  I saw a hooked fish leap and then end a short run by
knocking a startled man off his feet while five others yelled "fish on! fish on!"
I saw a Chinook swimming downstream, a fluorescent red fly hooked through his lip
attached to a short leader attached to a full length of limp green fly line
attached to nothing.  I saw two Japanese fishermen in waders in animated
conversation over their lunch of big Mac's, fries, and Coke.  I saw a strong
Chinook fight upstream through a powerful rapid, his black back fully exposed to
the afternoon air, and then watched him glide slowly through a section of nearly
perfect laminar flow, not five feet from my stance on the slippery bedrock bottom.

Jim Caldwell
Ithaca, N.Y.                    
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From: swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,tx.general,houston.general
Subject: Re: Floundering around Galveston?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 09:40:51 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: boogie.cs.utexas.edu

In article <28SEP199200350442@elroy.uh.edu> st1t0@elroy.uh.edu (CARL
SEILER) writes:
:In article <COSC16TT.92Sep27140952@menudo.uh.edu>, DGray@uh.edu writes...
:: 
::Also, after this dog decided he could put our fish to better use than
::we could, my parents started carrying a small pistol while
::floundering.  As far as I know this is still legal.  It is legal to
::carry a gun in a boat so long as it is within the Texas Carry laws
::(not concealed, etc).  Just wondering...
:
:         Ok.  The Texas Penal Code has no concept of "concealed"
:         weapons.  It simply lists weapons you cannot carry.  Among
:         them are handguns.  You cannot carry handguns, clubs,
:         slapjacks, throwing stars, swords, spears, or brass knuckles.
:         ... You may have these things at home. ... You may carry a
:	  rifle or shotgun as long as it is not "sawed-off." ...
:         The penal code gives defenses to the charge of carrying a
:         weapon and these include "traveling." ...
:         I would play it safe and carry a shotgun or rifle.  

If the main aim is repelling dogs, I would play it even safer and use
a less drastic remedy.  A Super-Soaker squirt gun or a big stick
achieves the same objective with less risk of accident, etc.
From: 9531sons@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jamie Sonsini)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: rec.outdoors.fishing
Keywords: rec.outdoors.fishing
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:30:30 GMT
Distribution: alt.fishing

Here at UCSB we don't get the proper "feed" for rec.outdoors.fishing
(in fact we don't get rec.outdoors at all).  I checked with our local
newsgroup support folks and they're willing to investigate if someone can
give them a clue.

I'd appreciate some help locating the sources of this newsfeed.  Thanks.

					Jamie Sonsini
					UC Santa Barbara
					9531sons@ucsbvm.bitnet
From: cosc16tt@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Fly fishing on the Texas coast
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:24:18 GMT
Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu
Organization: /posole/cosc16tt/.organization

In article <24SEP199214404978@summa.tamu.edu> ndm1417@summa.tamu.edu (MONTGOMERY, NOEL DAVIS) writes:

   I am looking for info on fly fishing on the Texas coast.  I'm in Bryan,
   so somewhere on the north/central coast would be good.  The type of 
   info that I am looking for is:
   a.  Where to go

I saw a television program where they were fly fishing in the Laguna
Madre near Mustang Island (i.e. the state park on mustang island is a
nice choice to stay).  I don't recall the guide's name.  You could
call the Corpus Christi Chamber of Commerce and get some names.

   c.  What to fish for

They were catching specs, but I guess there are other fish you might
be able to fish for...

-dennis
--
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From: machala@spdc.ti.com (Chuck Machala)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,tx.general,houston.general
Subject: Re: Floundering around Galveston?
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:53:59 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

cosc16tt@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.) writes:


>When I was about 12-15, we used to go floundering around Corpus, but I
>was wondering if there are nie enough places around Galveston to do
>this.  A likely stop I am thinking of is East Bay right behind
>Rollover Pass.  Isn't is very shallow and fairly clear?  Any other
>suggestions?

>Also, after this dog decided he could put our fish to better use than
>we could, my parents started carrying a small pistol while
>floundering.  As far as I know this is still legal.  It is legal to
>carry a gun in a boat so long as it is within the Texas Carry laws
>(not concealed, etc).  Just wondering...

I go fishing a few times a year in the bay and at least once or twice stop off
at rollover to do some flounder fishing. It's about the only place to fish 
when the wind is blowing from the south and you don't have a boat. You can
wade along the cut and fish mud minnows or shrimp on the bottom for flounder.
Best when the tide is moving. Also, there was a write up in the Dallas Morning
News yesterday that said the flounder were now migrating out of the bay and
there is alot of action at the moment. good luck.


--
Reg:    "All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medecine, education,
        wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and
        public health... What have the Romans ever done for us?"   LoB
Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,tx.general,houston.general
From: st1t0@rosie.uh.edu (CARL SEILER)
Subject: Re: Floundering around Galveston?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: houston
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:16:00 GMT

In article <lce6bjINN33m@boogie.cs.utexas.edu>, swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher) writes...
>If the main aim is repelling dogs, I would play it even safer and use
>a less drastic remedy.  A Super-Soaker squirt gun or a big stick
>achieves the same objective with less risk of accident, etc.

You're absolutely right.  I was just trying to answer his question about 
carrying a handgun, though.  For me personally, I don't have a handgun, 
dog, or fishing gear.

Carl
I am curious.  My original reply had "Distribution: Houston."  How did it get
all the way to Austin?  Perhaps I don't understand the purpose of limiting
the distribution of a post.


Carl Seiler                         |  Department of Econonmics
Graduate Student                    |  University of Houston
ST1T0@jetson.uh.edu                 |
From: jcrowder@morse.cns.vt.edu (Jeff Crowder)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing in Eastern Ontario question
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:51:17 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


The area around Gowganda offers great opportunity for all of the species
you mention, especially Northerns.  Buck and Emma Lee (I think)
Cruikshank at Spruce Schilling Camp in Shining Tree offer just the kind
of housekeeping cabins you're looking for.  Nothing fancy but spotless
and inexpensive.  They rent boats and stuff but I strongly suggest you
consider using a canoe.  In that part of the country you can portage
from lake to lake and pretty much travel by water as far as you want to
go.  Buck and Emma Lee are VERY friendly people and they'll be very
helpful for suggesting waters and routes.  The Grassy River area has
been pretty good to us over the years

On your map, Shining Tree is a couple hundred miles north of Sudbury.
I can't find the phone number for the camp but you can get it from
directory assistance.

Good Luck,

Jeff Crowder
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From: jeffp@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey L Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: OT Newsletter
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:08:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.7170
Followup-To: rec.outdoors.fishing
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.


The following selected topics are from the August 1992 issue of "Oregon Trout 
News". They may be of interest to those concerned with Native Fish and their 
Ecosystems. They are summaries (with my typos added for flavor).

The Ninth Annual SALMON FESTIVAL at Oxbow Park will be Oct. 10 & 11.
Sponsored by Oregon Trout, Audubon Society and Multnomah County Parks
this activity includes salmon viewing, volkswalks, a fun run, art
shows, hay rides, childrens pavilion, the Warm Springs Unity Dancers
and of course, food & refreshments.

The current drought has created concerns in the Klamath Basin about
streamflows below Keno dam where a substantial population of native
redband trout exists. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation insists that streamflow
over Keno Dam will not go below 150cfs, Oregon Department of Fish and
Wildlife (ODFW) wants 200-250 cfs. Bureau of Reclamation says they will
enforce the 150 cfs minimum unless ordered to do otherwise.

Oregon Water Resources Commission has adopted a policy that states
further over-appropriation of the states surface and groundwater
is unacceptable. It allows the new consumptive use of water only when
it can be show that water will be available at least 80% of the time
for the new use. It will not change the existing over-appropiation of
water resources.

The JOHN DAY RIVER STEELHEAD redd (sites with spawning fish) averaged
3.3 per mile. However on Murders Creek the count was 8.8 redds per mile.
Murders Creek is not pristine, it is heavily logged and roaded. Why the
difference ? Murders Creek has the highest density of beaver dams anywhere
in the John Day Basin. Most streams in the basin no longer have beaver dams
although historic accounts glow with the bounty of beaver in the basin.

The Oregon office of U.S. Fish and Wildlife has opened communication with
the New England branch to see if we can learn from their attempts at restoring 
Atlantic Salmon. An attempt is being made to reestablish Atlantic in the 
Connecticut River where they went extinct in the 1700's. The problem is
finding the right kind of salmon. Imported Canadian stocks didn't work because
they didn't know how to turn left, something they need to do to find the
Connecticut River. Now an American stock is being used. The 1981 return was
529 fish, the following two years it dropped to 70 and 39.

(Anybody know how the Conneticut Atlantics are doing now ?)

______________________________________________________________________________
Jeff Powell
jeffp@riverwhy.PEN.TEK.COM
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: euafri@eua.ericsson.se (Fredrik stman)
Subject: Re: How to wear Sari?
Reply-To: euafri@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:45:16 GMT

Fenny Frampton writes:

>I was wondering if anyone knew the correct method of wearing an
>East Indian Sari?  A Sari is an ethnic garment Indian women wear.

At last something about *fashion*! Could these people asking about
shops please post somewhere more appropriate, like talk.bizarre?

ObSari: Sorry, Fenny, not a clue.

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:56:55 EDT
From: <WAS104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: RE; CLAIBORNE OUTLET

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DETROIT, BUT IN READING PENNSYLVANIA, THERE IS AN OUTLET THE
RE, ALONG WITH MANY, MANY OTHER OUTLETS, SUCH AS THE GAP, LAURA ASHLEY, VANITY
FAIR (EVERYTHING THERE IS 1/2 OFF), J.CREW, LEE, LEVIS, BUGLE BOY, COACH BAGS,
AND MANY MANY MORE.  IT IS THE GREATEST PLAC TO SHOP......I THINK, IT IS THE OU
TLET CAPITAL OF SOMETHING
                         TARA
From: jc@dolphin.cis.ufl.edu (Jimmy Chin)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Pajamas with feet
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:49:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

The impossible quest. Seeking pajamas with feet in them (in Florida, no less) 
to no success. If anyone's got a lead on finding those jumpsuit-type pajamas
with the feet sewn in, in adult sizes, pass it on to me. Mail-order is 
preferred.

I've already tracked down the Dr. Dentons label to the manufacturer, who passed
me onto distributors, who weren't very helpful. 
-- 
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From: 22302LMK@MSU
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: Help in finding tights in womens sizes.
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:54:33 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.lycra,alt.fashion
From: ldonalds@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lori Donaldson)
Subject: Help in finding tights in womens sizes.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:59:26 GMT


Could someone please tell me a mail order firm that carries tights in
womens sizes?  I am especially looking for the one made of nylon
-spandex in a shiny silver color.

Thanks.
Lori (ldonalds@nyx.cs.du.edu

Lori, I think someone mentioned Romans, and Lane Bryant. Also if you go to
Lane Bryant in late october they usually have silver and gold colors. Also if
you pick up a copy of BBW magazine they have a ton of stores that carry full
figure panty-hose and tights of all sorts.

Hope this helps

Lisa
From: io11283%maine.bitnet@utcs.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Any Marc Jacobs fans out there?
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:29:26 -0400

Some questions for the alt-fashionable:
Has anyone mailed Jill Miller direct? My replies to her keep bouncing.

Who out there knows anything about hat designers/designing?

WHat are your opinions about sizing? (whose stuff runs large, small, etc. and
why this is good or bad)

Do any of you actually live in ares where you see people wear what is on this
season's runways?  I'd stick out in a crowd here if I wore the latest from my f
avorite designers (Jacobs, Klein, Armani, Sander, Rykiel, etc. etc.) if I could
 ever afford them.

What are your opinions about the designing Karl Lagerfeld has done for the Chan
el house?

Surrounded by such styles as LandsEnd and LLBean, (yawnorama!)
Jennifer Sanborn
Newsgroups: alt.lycra,alt.fashion
From: ldonalds@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lori Donaldson)
Subject: Help in finding tights in womens sizes.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:59:26 GMT


Could someone please tell me a mail order firm that carries tights in
womens sizes?  I am especially looking for the one made of nylon
-spandex in a shiny silver color.

Thanks.
Lori (ldonalds@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: fenny@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Fenny Frampton)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: How to wear Sari?
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 10:27:20 EDT
Reply-To: fenny@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: alt.fashion
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

Hi everyone:

I was wondering if anyone knew the correct method of wearing an
East Indian Sari?  A Sari is an ethnic garment Indian women wear.

Any information would be helpful.  Thank you.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Fenny Frampton (fenny@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca), Kingston, ON, CANADA
"Fashion violators will be prosecuted."
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: CHARTER - alt.fashion
Keywords: charter
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 10:20:30 EDT
Reply-To: fenny@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: alt.fashion
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON  (613) 547-5066
Expires: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:59:00 GMT

CHARTER - alt.fashion  {Modified 03 Oct 1992 10:19:18 EDT}
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This group will deal with diverse topics such as design illustration,
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People are encouraged to participate if they have any interest in the
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Contributions can be posted to alt.fashion, or alternatively sent as mail
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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: ae907@yfn.ysu.edu (Roberta Steel)
Subject: Re: Help in finding tights in womens sizes.
Reply-To: ae907@yfn.ysu.edu (Roberta Steel)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:12:58 GMT


In a previous article, ldonalds@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lori Donaldson) says:

>
>Could someone please tell me a mail order firm that carries tights in
>womens sizes?

J. C. Penny has a catalog of womens sizes.  Lane Bryant and Romans have some 
tights.
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From: 22302LMK@MSU
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Clairborne outlets in Michigan
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:58:56 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

As far as I know there are three designer outlet malls in michigan. There is
one in Holland, MI, one on Monroe, Mi and one about 2 shakes of a lambs tail
from Frankenmuth. The one by frankenmuth and the one in Holland have the
clairborne outlets.

If I hear of anymore I will post the info

Lisa
Newsgroups: alt.fashion