HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rjung@sal-sun101.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Thanks for the .gifs!
Date: 16 Apr 1992 18:32:09 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun101.usc.edu

In article <1992Apr16.161953.26052@ecst.csuchico.edu> posze@ecst.csuchico.edu (Paul J. Osze) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.133145.1949@inland.com> hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock) writes:
>>To all those Toonsters who supply .gifs to the ToonPics server:
>>
>>	Thanks!  These things are great.  How do you guys *do* that, anyway?
>
>Thank you, thank you!  I deserve it :-)

  Yes you do.

>BTW, I've been using a
>new process to remove interlace artifacts starting with the HISMV pics, and
>was wondering if anyone out there has noticed a difference in quality between
>the newer pics and the older ones.

  Sure has. It took me a little time to get used to the "new look", but now I
prefer it to the earlier method. The new GIFs seem to be sharper, with more
vibrant colors, and you got rid of that scan/colorization "bar" that used to
be on the left side of the screen. Keep it up!

  Now the only thing we need is a working TTA ftp site. Le sigh.

						--R.J.
						B-)

(Class! Gotta motor!)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Orson Whales: "In real physics, the only thing left to do now would be to bury
                 Furrball's remains in a dignified manner."
~~~~~~~~~~~ These opinions are all mine, but you're welcome to 'em. ~~~~~~~~~~
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: schwae@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Hey there toonsters!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:18:30 GMT

In article <01GIVFCGW1SWBL1NRQ@ulkyvx.bitnet> JALEIT01@ULKYVX03.LOUISVILLE.EDU ("FIFI LAFUME ", SEXIUS SKUNKIUS) writes:
>In article <CMM.0.90.0.703314157> dgm5@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Douglas G Moody)
>writes:
>
>>Thanks for the hot tip, guys!  I have been enviously reading
>>alt.tv.tiny-toons for about a month now, but my paranoid network here
>>at school won't let me post at any level above campus local.  Just when
>>I was wondering if there was any way around this rule, it was posted! 
>>Again, thanks for empowering one formerly silent toonster.  I was
>
>Boy, apparently that is a common thing.  I was going through the manuals we
>have at work to figure out how to post, when a friend/worker asked me what I was
>doing he chuckled and told me how to post.  I spent the next hour banging my
>head on a desk because I hadn't asked him earlier. :-)
>
I don't remember how I learned to post.  I think I was just shown how
by a friend at the same time he taught me how to read Usenet.
 
>>recently turned on to TTA by another member of the group, and quickly
>>realized that it represented the zenith of contemporary animation.  I
>>haven't been able to watch it regularly, but I did buy my own copy of
>>HISMV.  I only hope that in time, I too will be worthy of the title
>>"Drooling Fanboy."  
>
>Don't worry about it.  Before you know it you'll be overqualified to be a new 
>and improved, gender-neutral, Drooling Fanboy. ;-)
>
I hate the term 'gender neutral.'  I much prefer 'sexless' since it is
more to the point, shorter, and more likely to shock the PC airheads.
However, "sexless drooling fanboy" does not sound good.  Not at all.
So I'll put my stamp of approval, for what it's worth, on gender-
neutral drooling fanboy.   

E.S.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: schwae@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Fifi Ramblings
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:32:58 GMT

In article <01GIIVK3E54GBESFHG@ulkyvx.bitnet> JALEIT01@ULKYVX03.LOUISVILLE.EDU ("FIFI LAFUME ", SEXIUS SKUNKIUS) writes:
>In article <01GIDGRGZ0WGB8JXIC> schwae@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz) writes:
>>In article <01GIDGRGZ0WGB8JXIC@ulkyvx.bitnet> JALEIT01@ULKYVX03.LOUISVILLE.EDU ("FIFI LAFUME ", SEXIUS SKUNKIUS) writes:
>>She isn't really in need of development, just airtime and TMS quality 
>>animation.  It kind of surprises me there are people who WOULDN'T do 
>>anything for her.
>
>I'll agree with the need for airtime and TMS animation, but we need to see more
>of what Fifi can do outside of chasing down other "skunks" and end up getting
>dumped. :-(  Its not a big schocker anymore.  Sense I've been reading this

Fifi seems shocked every time. :-(  I'm not saying more character 
development wouldn't be great, just that it isn't needed.  Besides,
more airtime would naturally translate into new ideas and scenarios,
even if based on the same premise.  Though it would be nice to see her
doing things besides failing at romance.   

>group I've found that not everybody likes Fif, but there are more than enough
>fanboys and drooling fanboys to make up the difference.  Note the two
>catagories of fanboys. ;-)
>
Not everyone likes fine food or wine.  There is no accounting for taste.

*drool*

>>>>knock anybody out when she is sitting in class or at the lunch table eating. 
>>
>
>>She's quite a knock-out anywhere!
>
>Ain't that the truth!
>

Just thought I'd leave that part in to remind everyone. :-)

>>I still say it is a pleasant aroma.  And one I'd love to wear on myself.
>>Butane thiol is oxygen to my lungs.  *le sigh* 
>
>Uhmm, we will not got into how you came about this mutation, but I know I could
>stand the odor if that ment I could be around Fif.  Some people can't stand the
>odor, go figure. :-\
>
Their loss.  :-)

>>>Okay I didn't factor in cafeteria sludge into the equation. Listen to me
>>>"factor" "equation" MY GOD classes are getting to me.  AAAARRRGGGG!!! four
>>>weeks until three months of glorious non-constructive downtime.  I think I'll
>>>watch HISMV a couple of dozen times to relax. B-)
>>>
>>Cafeteria sludge is bad enough when you have someone to eat it with.  Poor
>>Fifi.  I'd even eat cafeteria "Mystery Meat" with her, to keep her
>>company.
>
>Amen to that brother, amen to that. :-)
>
E.S.
From: geoffrey@CPSC.UCALGARY.CA (Geoffrey Brandenburg)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: What, I need a subject?
Date: 17 Apr 92 08:46:44 GMT

>I have to disagree here.  Maleficent, from Sleeping Beauty is my favorite.
>She just has this amazing style.  Her first scene, where she calls out,
>"Here me, all of you!" and then raps the flagstones with her staff brings
>chills to my back.  I'm really bummed, because the last time I got to see
>SB I was baby-sitting at this house with TONS of Disney movies, and the VCR
>broke about 3/4s of the way through, so I missed the "... all the powers
>of Hell!" line.  Also, her transformations and teleportations are beautiful.

"Now you shall deal with me, oh Prince, and all the powers of Hell!"  

That line is one of my all-time favourites.  Maleficent is by far the most
sophisticated of the Disney villains and my personal favourite.  I think
because she is so cold and calculating; there is an aura of absolute 
evil about her.

>  The only reason you don't see cheap shots at Warner Bros. over at
>rec.arts.disney is that it doesn't fit into the Disney mentality. There's an
>alternate reality where cheap-shot-cross-posts between alt.tv.tiny-toon and
>rec.arts.disney fly like spitballs.  B-)

Possibly also because TTA doesn't take itself seriously (at least, it is not
as staid and formal as Disney); there's no fun in taking cheap shots at
informality and irreverence.  It's like trying to lampoon Monty Python.

Speaking of which, I finally saw Quest for the Holy Grail on a *big* screen
this evening.  Still as hilarious as ever.  >NI NI NI<


Sean Brandenburg
geoffrey@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: schwae@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Obscure DYN in "Let's do Lunch" 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:29:36 GMT

Look at the scene where Tweety lectures Sweetie.  Tweety keeps
whacking Sylvester as he's lecturing.  Notice when he says,
"Drive him nuts!"
(time to look at your tape on the VCR now)

do you want to have the surprise spoiled?  Look at the episode
first. Look at the expression on Sylvesster's face for a clue

Tweety nailed Sylvester in the nuts! :-/  OUCH!!!

E.S.
From: asa3@ellis.uchicago.edu (Snugglebear)
Subject: FTP
Reply-To: asa3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: NA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:51:27 GMT



Does anybody have the FTP site for the toon GIFS and the Toon sounds?

Please e-mail to asa3@ellis.uchicago.edu

Thanks!
From: tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu (T. Erik Browne)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon,rec.arts.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: My bid to stir up major controversy.... 8^)
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:15:56 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <uc-chan.703182804@mcl> uc-chan@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan) writes:
>
>
>		The Eternal Answer =
>
>			GOOBERS!

Fine by me.  Of course, eventually I'll post my long, in-depth, rigorous
mathematical proof that GOOBERS = 42.
>
>
>Any arguments?  I could always start up a straw poll.....NOT!  :)
>
>Being a brand-new subscriber to this group, 

Welcome to the group, nice to have you.
>I'd also appreciate info on
>any TTA gifs floating around out there.  Such info can reach me at
>uc-chan@mcl.ucsb.edu.  Thanks!

I will leave this question up to THE EXPERTS (tm) (Don' you hate it on other
newsgroups how someone will ask a question and someone who obviously doesn't
know what he is talking about follows-up with a really lame explanation about
what they think is the right answer, and the people who know the answer are
looking at this person and thinking, "Why did this person post this thing?"
and then they get together with a lot of pitchforks and torches and go
marching up the mountain and ... oh, sorry, I guess I was rambling).

>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>If You Know What |     Christina M. Callihan     |  Doing STRANGE THINGS
> You're Doing,   |  AKA C-chan, Bwee, Chrystal-  |  in the name of Art,
>   It's Not      |   Elf & Who Knows What Else   |  and STRANGER THINGS
>   Research!     |       (I sure don't)          |    in the name of
> => => => => =>  |     uc-chan@mcl.ucsb.edu      |       CHOCOLATE
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T. Erik Browne                          | Harvey Mudd College
tbrowne@hmcvax.claremont.edu            | Claremont, CA  91711
tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu           | Best college west of Upland
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From: tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu (T. Erik Browne)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:43:36 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <278@romana.Tymnet.COM> sally@romana.Tymnet.COM (Sally 'Lucky Bitch' Smith) writes:
>
>>tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu (T. Erik Browne) writes:
>
>>>p.s.  The above post is only looking for sympathy and pity.  Any cracks about
>>>having episodes on tape will be dealt with severely (I'm borrowing the Death
>>>Star for about a week).
>
>Oh, yeah? Sez who? ;-)
>
>In article <19qjd+k@lynx.unm.edu> synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:
>
>>Y'know, Erik, you really should have the good episodes on tape ...
>
>Exactly. Saying this is not a Death Star deserving offense.
>
>Sally
>

Sorry, I should have asked permission to borrow the Death Star.  I'll remember
next time.  The reason for the line about episodes on tape was because the
last time I complained about The Trial (about when it started), somebody
(Erik glances over at Synth) made a comment about having episodes on tape.
I'm sorry, but my meager budget doesn't allow me to buy the videotapes to
record all of those episodes.  I have to rely on tv alone. [tirade over]

BTW, the above post should not be taken seriously.  There is too much serious
stuff in this world, and a serious post just offends my sensibilities.  That
all said and done, Sally, can I borrow the Death Star and nuke Synth?  Just
for fun.  Please??

>-- 
>Sally Smith (510)790-0608  | ...!uunet!olivea!tymix!tardis!sally
>sally@tardis.tymnet.com    | I'm unemployed--these opinions *must* be mine!
>"Don't investigate this too closely." -- Don Bellisario, re: "Quantum Leap"


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: yifun@netcom.com (Yifun Liang)
Subject: Re: a.t.tv.tiny-toon flame war???
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:12:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

rjung@girtab.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:

>Okay, I feel really silly for posting this, but what the heck.

>I just got an e-letter from one of the alt.tv.tiny-toon "lurkers". You know,
>the other 15,000+ folks who read this newsgroup, but don't post anything to
>it. Anyway, this person (say I call him "The Unknown Toonster") was taking
>offense to my last post, where I joked about bombarding rec.arts.disney with
>assorted TINY TOONS' Disneyisms (it was a joke, son).

>Anyway, The Unknown Toonster goes on to say that he's getting upset with the
>recent increase in flames on alt.tv.tiny-toon. To this, I must say,

>                                *WHAT* flames?

one possibility... for some sites, this group somehow got mixed up with other
flame-type groups.. I've noticed that there are more articles on alt.tv.t-t
on the other site (where I have another account) than here on this account.
maybe some of us are protected under the flame war :-)

or, maybe our definitions of "flame" are different... 

-- 
<INet:yifun@netcom.com><AOL:Yifun><GEnie:Y.LIANG1><Elsewhere:Yifun Liang>
"I wonder why man was put on Earth. What's our purpose? Why are we here?"
"Tiger food." -- CalviN & HobbEs
From: uc-chan@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: My bid to stir up major controversy.... 8^)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:33:24 GMT



		The Eternal Answer =

			GOOBERS!


Any arguments?  I could always start up a straw poll.....NOT!  :)

Being a brand-new subscriber to this group, I'd also appreciate info on
any TTA gifs floating around out there.  Such info can reach me at
uc-chan@mcl.ucsb.edu.  Thanks!

____________________________________________________________________________
If You Know What |     Christina M. Callihan     |  Doing STRANGE THINGS
 You're Doing,   |  AKA C-chan, Bwee, Chrystal-  |  in the name of Art,
   It's Not      |   Elf & Who Knows What Else   |  and STRANGER THINGS
   Research!     |       (I sure don't)          |    in the name of
 => => => => =>  |     uc-chan@mcl.ucsb.edu      |       CHOCOLATE
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: schwae@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: New Tiny Toons Video
Keywords: Yiny ("Yiny"??  -.:::::.)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:12:57 GMT

In article <#atjaa+@lynx.unm.edu> synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim) writes:
>In article <79mZiB2w164w@pain.uucp> pain!invent_s@markv.com (Jason Artz) writes:
>>Has anyone seen the new Tiny Toons video in the video stores?  How is 
>>it? I'm wondering if it's worth getting...
>
>Considered by many (including myself) to be the jewel in the Tiny Toons crown.
>You *must* see it.  Log off and go get some cash out of the ATM ...
>
If you are good enough with computers, skip logging off, and get
*someone else's* money out of an ATM. 

E.S.
From: rjung@girtab.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: a.t.tv.tiny-toon flame war???
Date: 12 Apr 1992 23:46:20 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Okay, I feel really silly for posting this, but what the heck.

I just got an e-letter from one of the alt.tv.tiny-toon "lurkers". You know,
the other 15,000+ folks who read this newsgroup, but don't post anything to
it. Anyway, this person (say I call him "The Unknown Toonster") was taking
offense to my last post, where I joked about bombarding rec.arts.disney with
assorted TINY TOONS' Disneyisms (it was a joke, son).

Anyway, The Unknown Toonster goes on to say that he's getting upset with the
recent increase in flames on alt.tv.tiny-toon. To this, I must say,

                                *WHAT* flames?

Either our Unknown Toonster is a little too sensitive, and thinks that the
lighthearted give-and-take around here is centimeters away from a flame war,
or I've been so desensitized that I'm missing the signs.

Anyone want to comment on this? I see flame wars on other newsgroups all the
time, and I don't see _anything_ here resembling a flame. I think I speak for
the majority of the people on this group when I say that we're all "a loving
and happy family, forever and ever" (gee, just like the Pig Family's wish
in the seven-mile-long tunnel from HOW I SPENT MY VACATION...  B-).

I mean, heck, in an earlier message I invited 16,000 total strangers to my
house for a marathon session of TINY TOONS viewing and assorted silliness. You
don't do that with people you dislike (heck, I don't even do that with most
members of my family, for crissakes).

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          "Acme -- For fifty years, the leaders in creative mayhem!"
~~~~~~~~~~~ These opinions are all mine, but you're welcome to 'em. ~~~~~~~~~~
Stay Tiny Tooned!                     Send assorted silliness to rjung@usc.edu
From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: HISMV commercials show up in the strangest places...
Date: 9 Apr 1992 00:47:53 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

...like the end of THE YOUNG INDIANA JONES CHRONICLES, for example. There I
was, shackled to the keyboard, pounding out a homework assignment for that
!#$^&!&&^!%^? compiler class, trying to get everything finished so I could
go to bed (check out the hour of this message), and the TV was blazing.

Next thing I know, "Young Indy" is over, and suddenly there's a plug for
HISMV. Like huh? I could understand commercials next to RESCUE RANGERS (grin),
I could understand Saturday mornings, I could understand prime-time sitcoms,
but "Young Indy"? How many six-to-twelve year olds would even see the
commercial?

Maybe Lucas wanted to return Speilberg a favor for handing him that Oscar last
week. Or Warner Bros. is _really_ serious about reaching an adult audience
with HISMV...Not that I mind.

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

P.S. "I go, like, nappy-poo now".

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Babs: "This place is supposed to be wild and crazy and completely out of
            control! Hope I'm not bored."
~~~~~~~~~~~ These opinions are all mine, but you're welcome to 'em. ~~~~~~~~~~
Stay Tiny Tooned!                     Send assorted silliness to rjung@usc.edu

Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: New Tiny Toons Video
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:13:45 GMT
Organization: SynthMuzik Productions Ltd.:  The Danes Call It Quality
Keywords: Yiny ("Yiny"??  -.:::::.)

In article <79mZiB2w164w@pain.uucp> pain!invent_s@markv.com (Jason Artz) writes:
>Has anyone seen the new Tiny Toons video in the video stores?  How is 
>it? I'm wondering if it's worth getting...

Considered by many (including myself) to be the jewel in the Tiny Toons crown.
You *must* see it.  Log off and go get some cash out of the ATM ...


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    :: :: :: :: ::     Synth          synth@dreamtime.unm.edu  Ask Me About My
 :: :: :: :: :: :: ::  (F. Oberheim)  synth@yenta.alb.nm.us    Psychopathology
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"COOP! WE CAN'T LEAVE ALL THIS SPICE BEHIND, COOP!"
From: sado@ellis.uchicago.edu (Rob Sadowski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: More comments on Startoons
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:19:45 GMT
Reply-To: sado@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <kuce95INNjf@nunki.usc.edu> rjung@nunki.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:

>Speaking of HYD, I finally got a chance to look at Startoons' style again.
>All I can say is...ehhhhhh.
>True, it's not as bad as Kennedy was, but it's not too much better. My biggest
>gripe is that (a) many of the characters don't look close to the Warner
>models, and (b) the characters' looks fluctuate too much from scene to scene.

I'll mildly disagree.  While they do take some liberties with drawing the
characters on model, they were fairly consistant with their style.  IMO, the
closeups were better than full figures.  Also, as someone pointed out, ST
does a good job with providing smooth motion, unlike Kennedy.

>Again IMO: Plucky, Furrball, Elmyra, Monty, and Byron looked decent.

I think that Plucky's head was consistantly too round.  I'll agree with the
others.

> Hamton and Gogo needs lots of rework.

I thought that Hamton was really well done, and that their style of drawing
him bordered on TMS's semi-angular characterizations (see 'Particle Man' and
when he is shouting 'Spot the Car !!!' for example)  While they took some
liberties, I think it worked well.  

I chopped the comments about the bunnies, but I really disklike the 
Kennedy-esque short ears which seemed to make more than their fair share 
of appearances.

>Startoons tends to put _all_ of the toons on tiptoes a lot of the time.

This is a _very_ good comment.  I think they also tended to do a lot of
cocked eye gazes (when the eyes are half closed).

>I'll still rank Tokyo and Wang as my studios of choice, though I can put up
>with Startoons and Akom if the script is fine.

TMS is clearly head and shoulders above the rest.  If Wang concentrates 
on doing a good job and uses a light stroke (I _hate_ the dark black line
syndrome that characterizes some of their work) I'd have to say that they 
are also high on the chart.  But Startoons, with a little more attention to
model could be right up there.  While you (we?) may not have liked their
character stylings, the animation was smooth and had a quality feel to it.

As an aside, I dislike Akom more and more every time I see them.  Too cutesy,
not smooth enough, IMO, very 'Muppet Babies'-esque.  

More comments welcome ...


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The University of Chicago                            sado@midway.uchicago.edu
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