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From: Ross.Knepper@launchpad.unc.edu (Ross Knepper)
Subject: Number of colors in 3.0
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:02:29 GMT

With Workbench 3.0, you can have up to 256 colors, but only *8* can be
used in icons.  I have a whole bunch of icons that i drew in 16 colors on
2.04, but when transferred to my A4000, only the lower eight colors can be
set.  Using an older palette program, it is possible to change them all,
but only the first eight are kept when it is turned off.  This seems more
than a bit odd. Ideas?

- Ross Knepper
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: ADPro2 really sucks
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:24:59 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

> I used a friend's program to save MPEG frames into QRT-24 bit files.  My
> AREXX script kept barfing for some reason, so I did it by hand to see
> what was going on.  I load in frame1.. Each frame is 160x128 qrt24bit.
> So I load 1st frame, change it to HAM, lores, nolace.  Very small pic,
> about 16k.  I save that into an ANIM using the ANIM saver that comes w/
> FRED (or MorphPlus.. it was on those disks).  Saved ok.  I load QRT

Probably your best bet here is to convert the QRT files to IFF (there
was an external utility to do that somewhere), and combine the IFF files
into an animation using a program such as "makeanim" (which handles both
HAM and HAM8 animations).

Your second best bet is to ditch QRT for something else.  It had its
place in the world many years ago when there wasn't much else around,
but you can do much better now even in a freeware or shareware program.
QRT is hopelessly outdated.

> On a side note, there are NO good PD anim-builders for the Amiga.  All

Actually there are.  I've used "makeanim" with good results.  Its small,
handles AGA screen modes, is free, and generally works well.  There are
some others which are good except for the "minor" detail that they don't
handle AGA.

Personally, I'd give my left arm for DPaint/AGA...  EA said, when I
called, "maybe by the middle of January".

  - steve
From: udmx@mcl.ucsb.edu (Richard Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Babylon 5
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:14:48 GMT

So when in Babylon 5 going to air.  CNN had a newsreel on it the other day:
no mention of the Amiga but one was clearly visible on some animator's desk.

CNN promised more info in Babylon 5 in an upcoming edition of their Future
Watch program (whenever that is).


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: FTP location of older Eric Schwartz anims?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:34:46 GMT

In <C0Iz0D.KM1@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   See what I mean?  :-)  Where is the installed base of Amiga CD-ROM systems
>when you need them?  I think large Eric Schwartz demos would be much nicer 
>viewed from CD-ROM than from video tape.

Think. I wonder wether Eric would bother to put the results onto CD-ROM
when a) video is cheaper and b) more people have video to view the results
and c) you need lots of RAM to play such an anim as a CD-ROM is too
slow to deliver even lores animation data in real-time.

Regards,
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From: EcoDev@cup.portal.com (Eco - Development)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: ADPro2 really sucks
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 22:39:54 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <jbickers.0mmh@templar.actrix.gen.nz> <C0EHDz.D6o@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>

>
>Seems like no one wants to try to explain why ADPro wrote an 8Meg file
>out of nowhere.  Sounds like it was dumping FAST for some reason,
>perhaps.
>
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Say is your name really MARC BARRETT?

(please tell me you really don't have a NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: ANIM tools galore
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:24:18 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Jeff Walkup (jwalkup@terapin.com) wrote:

> Nope, there's nothing in the Preferences about it.  I've found out that
> *sometimes* it asks you if you want the palette locked, sometimes it
> doesn't.  Worse than that, even when you tell it to lock the palette,
> it doesn't.  Not on the 32-color ANIM I rendered anyway....

I've found that the best way to render an animation is, instead of
locking the palette in Imagine, just render a bunch of IFF24s.  Then,
outside of Imagine, convert these to the format you need (HAM8, or
whatever).  Almost always, external conversion tools can do a much
better job of converting to IFF than Imagine can, and then, you can lock
the palette or not as you see fit.  It also lets you re-make the
animation in other display modes easily.

   - steve
From: johnr@rowe.adsp.sub.org (John Rowe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: PAL DCTV doesn't seem to work on A4000s!!
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:07:00 GMT
Organization: John Rowe 3D Graphics & Animation
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.29 4/25/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz


After a long wait for my A4000 to arrive, and being much relieved during this
period to see the many posts here and there attesting to the fact that DCTVs
work fine on A4000s, now that it's finally here my PAL DCTV won't work with
it!  Has anyone out there got a PAL DCTV to work properly with an A4000!?
                                ^^^
Here are the symptoms:

The DCTV will pass a standard PAL or NTSC screen through and spit out a
standard composite image fine; in this case, as you would expect, the DCTV
remains inert, and merely passes the signal through and converts it to
composite.

Also understandably, if you try and display in an AGA screen mode (e.g. DBLPAL
or DBLNTSC) it sends the DCTV's composite display bezerk!

HOWEVER, when you display a DCTV image and line it up to the point where
DCTV normally displays it in all its glory, the composite display goes black!
Run DCTVPaint and the same thing happens as soon as any DCTV encoded image
appears - e.g. the gadget panel in DCTV Paint!!??

I spoke with another PAL DCTV owner here in Australia yesterday who had also
just received his A4000 and he found exactly the same problem with his DCTV!

DO ANY PAL DCTVs WORK WITH A4000s!!??  8-(

I also have another more minor problem with my dctv.  It seems that the pass-
through connector on it has never worked correctly.  Previously I was using it
on my A3000 along with a 1950 multisync and so never had cause to use the pass
-through.  Now, due to the single video port on the A4000, I have to plug my
1950 into the dctv's pass-through.  The pass-through seems to somehow alter
the video signal with the net result being that the 1950 shows a much darker
display with noticable thin vertical banding and a purple stain down the right
hand side of the screen.  1081 and 1084 monitors plugged into the pass-through
(with the A4000 displaying a standard HiRes Pal screen that they would normally
display without problem) seem to refuse to sync properly, with the screen
rolling and skewed.

This more minor problem seems to be a problem with my particular unit only.
As it is now out of warranty I wonder if anyone has had a similar problem
and if there is any easy way to fix it??

Can anyone shed any light (preferably of the pseudo-24bit composite type)
on either of these problems???

With apologies to Dire Straits "I want my, I want my, I want my DCTV!..."
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: 30 fps:  Yeay or nay?
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:04:40 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1993Jan1.111915.4004@midway.uchicago.edu> sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>We need, for fast anim playback the following:
>	Anim-7 (AAP_AAC) longword format used.
>	Be sure the data is aligned in 64bit format

Sorry, don't know about this AAP_AAC or ANIM-7 format, but generally:
Do you really think it would be a good move from 1 byte to longwords?
See, you want to compress your data. Thus your goal is to find as many
identical data as possible and store these only one time plus a count
how many times you have to replicate them in the final picture. Now if
your data size is 8 bits, the probability for (vertically) adjacent
identical values is magnitudes higher than for longwords. I fear if you
change to longwords you would have many more occurences of non-identities
where you have to store new full data without any compression but still
organizational overhead. So in the end, you would lose on compression
effectivity and thus probably also on playback speed.

But if this particular format is much smarter, then please forget my
uttering and perhaps explain the trick used there.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: ViewTek 1.03 bugs
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:04:58 GMT

mosedale@genome.stanford.edu (Dan Mosedale) writes:

>akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman) writes:
>>When using the AppIcon feature of ViewTek 1.03 I got a 8000 0003 GURU after
>>it had displayed the picture.

>I've run into this as well.  Not hard to duplicate:

>A3000
>WB 2.1
>ViewTek 1.03

>Start ViewTek with the ICONIFY tooltype set.
>Double click the AppIcon.
>Up comes a requester asking "whatcha wanna do?"
>Select the far right button (I forget whether it is Cancel or Quit).
>WHAM! Guru.

Same on an A500 1 meg chip / 4 megs fast.  Nice, unless you want to quit it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: Re: ADPro2 really sucks
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:37:10 GMT


Seems like no one wants to try to explain why ADPro wrote an 8Meg file
out of nowhere.  Sounds like it was dumping FAST for some reason,
perhaps.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: umkormil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sean Craig Kormilo)
Subject: TGA compressed?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:38:12 GMT



	Could somebody out there please suggest a way to convert pictures
saved in Targa Compressed format to jpeg,iff,or some other format that
will retain 24bit color on a Amiga 3000 16mhz with 10 megs ram????


Thanks in advance


umkormil@ccu.umanitoba.ca


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: greendog@insti.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D. Fischer)
Subject: Re: Number of colors in 3.0
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, SUNY at Stony Brook.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:36:50 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:02:29 GMT, Ross.Knepper@launchpad.unc.edu (Ross Knepper) said:
Ross> Nntp-Posting-Host: lambada.oit.unc.edu
Ross> With Workbench 3.0, you can have up to 256 colors, but only *8* can be
Ross> used in icons.  I have a whole bunch of icons that i drew in 16 colors on
Ross> 2.04, but when transferred to my A4000 only the lower eight colors can be
Ross> set.  Using an older palette program, it is possible to change them all,
Ross> but only the first eight are kept when it is turned off.  This seems more
Ross> than a bit odd. Ideas?
Ross> - Ross Knepper

I believe this is because the rest of the colors are supposed to be
"free" colors so different programs can allocate them and change them
as needed.  So your lower 8 colors are locked by the system, and the
rest are 'available'.  When a particular program starts up and asks
for 42 colors so it can do something, it locks 42 free colors and
changes them as needed.  Then some other program can ask for 10 
colors, etc.  If you set all the colors yourself, programs would have
to run in the colors you specified, rather than the colors they need.

Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: Jeff_Holinski@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeff Holinski)
Subject: Re: Toaster/DCTV
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:09:24 GMT


A friend of mine had trouble with his Toaster when he had a DCTV plugged in.
Apparently it affects different systems in different ways. Some systems work
fine with DCTV. On a side note he also had trouble using an Atari monitor
with his Toaster. Must be something to do with the load the DCTV puts on the
RGB port.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: Kermit@cup.portal.com (Kermit Royce Woodall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: ViewTek 1.03 bugs
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 14:01:42 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <jperkski.02po@kentcomm.UUCP> <73316@cup.portal.com>
  <1993Jan10.181240.16201@hubcap.clemson.edu>

>Also tell the author about the bugs with "quit" and the Appicon 
>if you try to quit from the appicon, you get a guru.)

I'm reporting all bugs to Tom including the one above.

Kermit Woodall
Nova Design, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: SHAM Painting
From: dmaster@amigans.gen.nz (Angus Cotton)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 15:37:34 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

This maybe a bit hopeful, but is there any (PD or Commercial) painting 
program which can handle Sliced HAM?
 
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From: iguana@nmt.edu (Shawn Clever)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Babylon 5
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:20:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmt.1993Jan7.222014.4481
Organization: New Mexico Tech

Yeah.  I would be really ticked if I saw Intel ads running on Babylon 5
airtime giving people the idea the "mighty Intel" creates the hardware
that produces Babylon 5's bitchin' graphics.  

If I were a marketing exec at Motorola, I would be eyeing those ads 
fairly closely...  

What's the deal with them anyway?  How come all we get is INTEL, INTEL, INTEL
(pound it into your head) INTEL!!! and no Motorola? 

Least of all the DCTV and NewTek people should be watching.


Shawn Clever
(iguana@nmt.edu)
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.graphics:8692 comp.graphics.animation:1590
From: andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: Computer Graphics World
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:13:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

	Not to put the Amiga down or anything (I have one and
love every ounce of it), but compared to some of the
other stuff that's going on, Babylon 5 is pretty much
old stuff -- talk to people in the business and it's pretty
unimpressive.  Besides, I don't see why people think so
highly of CGW -- they seem all flash and fluff that could
belong in one of those pop science magazines.

--Andre

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From: jperkski@kentcomm.UUCP (Jim Perkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: ViewTek 1.03 bugs
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:22:26 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <C0M19A.7I9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>
>ViewTek can't seem to handle much.  Like Mostra, it says it can't open
>the screen.  I have 2M CHIP, and these pictures are NOT that big.  View
>(by CryoGenic software) can view them okay, but it has palette
>distortion on some of the pics.  Take the 'Splash' pic, for instance,
>from Party92.  The pic of the cherry falling into the water.
>
>Viewtek 1.03 - An ILBM/GIF/JPEG/ANIM Viewer
>Copyright (c) 1992 Thomas Krehbiel
>All Rights Reserved
>  640x512x4     : 7th
>  ** 7th: Display open failed.
>
>I mean come on.  640x512 16 colors, and it can't open it?  'View' can,
>DPaint IV can.  I would've emailed the author, but he has no Internet
>email address.
>

 I have found the same problem with VuTek 1.03 and large gif files. It just
will not load them. Giffy will load and display them but not VuTek. If I
run VuTek from the CLI it reports bake that the file is something like
35000 x 120000! The files I am trying to load are the *.cat files off the
GIF's Galore CDROM. I wish the author would fix this.:)

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From: Kermit@cup.portal.com (Kermit Royce Woodall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: TGA compressed?
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 09:41:03 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Could somebody out there please suggest a way to convert
>pictures saved in Targa Compressed format to jpeg,iff,or some
>other format that will retain 24bit color on a Amiga 3000 16mhz
>with 10 megs ram????

ImageFX from GVP comes included, at no extra cost, with Targa loaders and
savers that fully support 24-bit Targa, 32-bit Targa and even bit mapped
Targa images.

Kermit Woodall
Nova Design, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: charro@ee.ualberta.ca (Dan Charrois)
Subject: mpeg_play
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:26:39 GMT

I've recently downloaded version 1.2 of mpeg_play to try and view
mpegs on my Amiga (the player written by Lawrence A. Rowe, Ketan
Patel, and Brian Smith).
It seems to work just great except that it doesn't
seem to want to set the colors in the palette.  From the animations
I've seen so far, it seems to just clone the workbench colors, so
things turn out a little strange to say the least.  I've set a deeper
screen depth from time to time as well, and although there are more
colors available, the palette still isn't right.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong, or
forgetting to do?  I'd really love to have an mpeg player...

Dan
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From: johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven)
Subject: Re: FTP location of older Eric Schwartz anims?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 10 Jan 93 11:15:22 WST
Organization: ACix - Private UUCP Node, Cloverdale, Western Australia.

jdemers@desire.wright.edu wrote:
>  Actually, Juggette III is his latest animation and it fits one one disk, he
> has also done (but not yet finished) 'A walk in the Park' this one is so big it
> isn't avilible on disk, only video tape.

Do you have a FTP address where this can be obtained?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: miked@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Mike Danielsen)
Subject: Re: gl animations
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:03:35 GMT

In article <jbickers.0mmu@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>Quoted from <1ic8efINN28s@tansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk> by maufx@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C L Eales):
>
>> Are there any gl animation viewers/converters on the amiga and if so
>> where can I ftp them from?
>
>    There are two and a half. AmiGRASP (by Koh Kian Beng) plays back a
>    PC GL file in HAM. GL 2.1 plays back an Amiga GL file that you
>    have to convert from a PC file. And GL 1.3 plays back a PC GL file
>    in LORES.
>
>    Your choices are basically, if you want to view the GL file
>    without conversion, get AmiGRASP. If you want to convert the GL
>    file, get GL 2.1.
>
>    Both programs (and I think GL 1.3 also) are available from
>    amiga.physik.unizh.ch.
>
>>   Craig Eales
>--
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Maybe you can tell us where to get the pattern.library that is needed by
your programs, but isn't supplied in the archive?
              
thanks,
Mike Danielsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: ghidoni@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (fabio ghidoni)
Subject: DYNAMIC HI-RES PICS?
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:36:42 GMT

Hi everybody! I like to know if there is a ftp site where I can get some
Dyna-Hi-Res piccies. I never saw them, and I'd like very much to have them
in my collection. Also news about SHAM pictures are welcome and about every kind
of picture in every Amiga format. Thank u very much


ghidoni@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Dept of Computer Science - Milan