From: sbh@ncube.com (Shawn Honess)
Subject: Re: HORDE
Organization: nCUBE CORPORATION
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:50:33 GMT

Lee Silverman <ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu> writes:
>The Phish-Net itself was created because there was no good forum in which
>to discuss Phish.  It didn't seem right to talk about them on R.M.Gdead,
>but there was noplace else.  Hence, the net.  Now we're in almost the
>same situation; there's noplace to talk about Widespread Panic, or God
>Street Wine, or Blues Traveller, and yet these bands seem to be defining
>a new genre of music that many people seem to enjoy.  Phish is definetly a

mechler@cs.ubc.ca (Roland Mechler) writes:
>  As to the issue of HORDE stuff in this newsgroup, I'm a newcomer here so
>I don't have any strong opinion, but I definitely think there should be
>some newsgroup (whether it's this one or a new one) where all these bands 
>can be discussed.

Does anyone remember this ?

   REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
 
   This is an official call for discussion on the proposed creation
   of a new newsgroup, rec.music.phish, dedicated to discussions on
   the band Phish.
   
   Proposed charter:
 
   This newsgroup provides a public forum for topics related to the
   musical group Phish.  
 
   Rationale:
 
   Phish's unique blend of musical styles and talents has gathered 
   a large following of devoted fans that carries beyond the confines 
   of the concert hall.  This newsgroup is intended to bring these
   people together for discussions of the band's music (opinions, chord
   charts), lyrics (transcriptions, interpretation), performances
   (reports, reviews), tape trading, pholklore, interviews, and
   related topics.
 
   The reason for creating this newsgroup is that Phish has already
   demonstrated a substantial following in the electronic world.
   In the middle of 1991 the Phish Digest was created and now over
   300 people are subscribed to it.  The increasing number of users
   and discussion topics make it very difficult to keep up with as a 
   digest.  
 
   If we were to create rec.music.phish, there would be a more
   organized forum for the increasing interest in Phish.  The 
   current members would be more inclined to participate in it
   and less likely to avoid it because of heavy volume.  In
   addition, the traffic is expected to increase this spring 
   with the release of Phish's first major-label album.
   
   This is not a call for votes.  This RFD will continue from the
   date of this posting until about Feb. 1, 1992.
   
   If a vote is warranted, we will accept votes from Feb. 1, 1992
   until about Mar. 1, 1992.
   -- 
   _____________________________________________________________________
  |   John      jfw@neuro.duke.edu       Duke University Medical Center |
  | Whitehead   jfw@well.sf.ca.us        Department of Neurobiology     |
  |_____________________________________ Durham, North Carolina ________|

I'm not trying to flame anyone, and personally, I don't care who/what
we talk about in rm.phish.  I'd just like to keep topics Phish-centered,
and let things flow from there.  I'm interested in bands other than Phish,
but I killfile topics that don't interest me.

There at least 30 other newsgroups devoted to other artists, genres,
instruments, etc.  One of my favorite is rec.music.misc.  As the name
implies, they discuss music from anyone.  Most of the opposition to the
creation of rm.phish came out of rm.misc.

I would suggest that the "non-Phish centered" discussions be moved to
rec.music.misc.  As I interpret the current guidelines, that is where
they belong.  Of course this means that those with digest-only access
cannot follow along, but I know of several mailing lists for some bands
in our "non-genre".  I would also contend that some readers of rm.misc
were opposed to rm.phish because they had never heard of Phish (or any
of "our" other bands).  Future group creation may be easier if they
are aware of this music.  They might even like it.  :-)

If anyone who is still whining about the creation of rm.phish gets wind
that we are discussing the creation of additional newsgroups, we could
be in for a long and truly boring battle (which I will killfile :-).

        Peace, Love, Mangoes,
          - Shawn
            sbh@ncube.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish