HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: snahas@ARIES.INTEL.COM (steven nahas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Forget smoking...
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:33:59 GMT


What REALLY bothers me is cars that really need a ring job.

Sometimes I wish I had a big battlecar that I could swiftly
take those suckers out with...

See, I'm just COMMUTING with someone trying to quit, and all
that tension is rubbingoff on me too!

seastones
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: marcus@vestek.com (Mark Stephen)
Subject: dead shows from the vault
Organization: San Francisco
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:24:08 GMT

A friend  of mine came up with an idea I thought people might like
to hear. On the same basis as 'from the vault' cds, the Dead could 
hold 'from the vault' shows. Simple show a hologram of the band on 
stage, synched to a recording. This way they could re-enact classic 
shows. I'd be psyched to go to see a re-enactment of 5/8/77 !

I apologize for conveying any feelings of past-tenseness about the
band, I am of course praying for Jerry.

     Marcus
From: rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: NEIL SPEAKS: A SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:21:52 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

For all you DiamondHEDS, a SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT:

CINCINNATI POST  SATURDAY, AUGUST 15, 1992  PAGE 3B



"It's to keep the guys in the mellow."

                          ---NEIL DIAMOND, who was spotted buying
                             a gourmet coffee-making machine for
                             $825.00.



Damn it, and I was just about to hop on the limo, too. Well, maybe
I'll still give it a chance since my Dead Fall Tickets aren't gonna
do me much good. Any chance I can still mail order on the special
"Backstage Passes, Limo, Brie, and all the Dom I can drink" tix for
Neil's Fall Tour??????



:)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)


Peace!!

!eric!

 

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
Subject: Re:  smokin' at shows
Reply-To: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 06:30:42 GMT


In a previous article, quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) says:

>In article <1992Aug20.002108.19239@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>>quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia)writes
>>
>>|Well, Yeah, I'm for real. As I mentioned before, if you are stealthy
>>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>|they really don't know where it came from.
>>
>>Don't you mean if you are a chicken-shit, little piss-ant?

Steve, you hit the nail on the head here!

>Well, I could be mistaken, maybe the fact that I'm 6'4" and built made
>them *pretend* they didn't know where it came from...

This is funny.  Bruce, the first lesson you should learn about using
Usenet is that you shouldn't tell such an obvious lie.  I have an old
bunch of friends who are at SMU and happen to know of you.  I asked
them if you were really 6'4".  No, you are about 5"10.  They agreed 
that you were built though.  Built about 50 pounds overweight.
They described you as a chubby nerdy lookin guy.  Certainly not
capable of causing anyone but a frail old woman any sort of
physical harm.

>bq  "big queer"



Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: John Schulien   <U21187@uicvm.bitnet>
Subject: ...
Reply-To: U21187@uicvm.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:56:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.154805.15144@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> trwei@pica.army.mil
 (FSAC-SID) writes:
|
| he help write are Throwing Stones, Mexically Blues, Hell in a Bucket. Anyway,

"I'm going south of the border!", Tom said Mexically. ;-)
From: lenniec@ft-b.isc-br.com (Lennie Carlberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Questions for musicologists
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:45:33 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company



 I will attemp to give my interpretation of one of Vic's questions. Why
can we all tell that a song is being played by the GD even when its new?

 I think it has alot to do with how many notes are being played. What I
mean by this is lets say during a perticular 4 count segment alot of the
time all the players are playing something different from each other. So 
let say Jerry's playing a open chord down on the 1st three frets, Bob's up
on the fifth fret on one of his homemade chords, Phil's playing all the 
notes in that scale and them some. Vince is also playing his own pattern
of all the notes in that scale, and then you have Billy & Mickey adding
the rhythm notes, both differently. So you have all these notes, whole
notes, half notes, quarter notes and so on and so on all being played
differently by each individual. Well this does not usually happen in
most of your popular Bands on the radio. What ya normally hear is some
"one note Johnny" tune were everyone play's the same note at the same
time. Of course this is slightly over exaggerated but I think you get my
drift. Then mixed this with the fact that in the basic structure of alot of
their songs, the guitars are very clean. You get to hear the guitars 
themselfs not over distorted but just nice clean guitar strings that
you can actually hear vibrating, that is rare. 

 Then there's Jerry 

 Get well soon


Later


Lennie Carlberg

lenniec@mail.isc-br.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Geoff Wells)
Subject: Re: Dead-Flames Digest #169
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:42:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.181614.29761@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> trucillo@icarus.montclair.edu (John A. Trucillo) writes:

>Can someone please sent me the set list for 5-2-70.  I have that tape and I want
>to make sure that its complete!
>                                               Thanx,
>                                                       John
Yeah,and whats the title of the gospel tune with the New Riders singing on 
it?
geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
From: wam@athena.mit.edu (William A Mayer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Nicotine addicts Unite!
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:12:21 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Good ideas, Eagle - but a caution - be careful with those patches, 
more'n a few folk I know have had miscalculated dosages and od'd, none fatally
at least.  I kicked Camel straights myself after ten years recently, went through 
it cold.  Brrrrr! But it can be done.

Hang in there!  As my wife keeps tellin' me, "Better you don't smoke, I hate 
kissing ashtrays".  Oh yeh:->
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Wharf Rat
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:49:27 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Aug12.060737.28484@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> 7039P@navpgs.bitnet writes:
>Does he really get a new start and live the life that he should?

	Yes, he did.

>rather pitiful insistence that he'll get up and fly away. 

	Friend, sometimes this really works.  It did for me.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Does Garcia have an obligation?
From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:41:37 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <Aug.12.14.49.50.1992.16273@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Peter Fein) writes:
> 
> once).  Does Jerry have an obigation to stay healthy and keep the band
> going strong especially since they keep those tours coming.
> 

Well, once I became a dad, I felt an obligation to stay alive to care for my
child, and hence no more motorcycle.

But Jerry is not here to take care of us, but to enjoy his own life to its
fullest, his only obligation is to himself.

That we are able to bask in the sunlight his enjoyment creates, this is our
fortune, but in no way does he owe any of us anything.

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) 

I can see it now. The people vs Jerry Garcia ...

Yer Honor, the man did not eat his wheaties, and had to cancel 5 shows. My 
clients' karma has suffered no end. I respectfully suggest that you fry him in 
oil and serve him up with a tomato & love sandwhich ! 

Mr Garcia, please stand. I hereby sentence you to 25 years of daily
calisthenics, a bi-weekly physical to test for excessive fatty food ingestion,
and you will write 'I'm sorry, I was a bad boy' on the courthouse blackboard
256,000,000,000 times, once for every smile that did not occur during the shows
in question.  

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) 

Later, Jim
From: pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Peter Fein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Does Garcia have an obligation?
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:49:51 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


As I now nervously check the net a few times a day looking for
anything on Jerry's condition.  Wondering if my Cap Center floor seats
will ever be used a thought comes to mind.  First before I say it let
me first say that I am a long time deadhead I love all members of the
band and I am just expressing a thought.  

If Jerry really wanted to make the music last for a very long time, do
you think he should have taken better care of himself especially in
his later years.  I have taken notice of the recent posts about Jerry
eating lots of junk food and chain smoking.  If he honestly wanted the
Dead to play as long as humanly possible maybe he should of changed
his living habits.  Recently a have read/heard things about other
members of the band doing things such as excercising, avoiding drugs
and sticking to patterns of clean living.  (I have a friend who saw
Bob Weir working out in the hotel gym where the band was staying
once).  Does Jerry have an obigation to stay healthy and keep the band
going strong especially since they keep those tours coming.

This is just my thought.  I would like to hear some constructive
crtisism on this.  But if you feel you must flame me do it civily.

"Let there be songs to fill the air"
Pete
pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: andreia clay <cla0@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: SeattleDeadhourheads?
Reply-To: cla0@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:33:42 GMT

Hi. I'm just about to lose net access so first, thanks to everyone for giving
me something exciting to do while watching my papers print out etc. I'm
heading out to Seattle (and am very sad about Veneta :-( and I want to know
1) when and what station the Deadhour is on and 2) any recommendations on
what I should do out there? If you're a Seattle head and want to get together
give me a call. Also if anyone from the Virginia, NC area (or anywhere
between there and Seattle) wants a ride out to the West coast,give me a ring
before late Friday night. (I always said once I got I car I'd stop
transpotation grovelling :-) Also if anyone could tell me what to do with
Veneta tix, I'd be grateful. I've been calling (busy) and wading through the
articles (971 unread) so I still haven't found out. Bye.
Andreia Clay
1511 Rugby Ave
Charlottesville, VA 22903
804-979-3599
(until Friday- but also a permanent address)
also-
4233 9th Ave NE #203
Seattle, WA 98105
206-633-5734
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: SCHUBERT%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: calling all brains
Reply-To: SCHUBERT%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:13:07 GMT

If anyone has anything intelligent to say about GD, please step right
up to the microphone, and enunciate. I really think if anyone with an
active brain would post something halfway intelligent, we could improve
the signal to noise ratio greatly. I mean anything at all even halfway
intelligent could only help. A lot. I know there are intelligent people
on this .net, I've seen them post before. I sure would appreciate it.

And thankyou to all who have been trying to do just that against a
stiff headwind.

Easy Wind, blowing cross the bayou today.                 Bear-man.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Subject: Nicotine Addicts Unite!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:10:53 GMT

  Help!  Steve's about to cram his keyboard up his CPU!  He
refuses to wimp out and use a nicotine substitute- he's doing
it soley on chocolate danishes!  I'm OK for the moment, so
send those support messages to 
 
                     sjeck@isi.com

                       eagle

HANG IN THERE JERRY!  MERCURY IS IN RETROGRADE BUT ONLY FOR
ANOTHER WEEK- THEN THINGS SHOULD GET BACK TO ABNORMAL!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: charles@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff)
Subject: Re: Field Trip Not
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:52:29 GMT

}A few messages back, the Toyota Celica Guy mentioned that maybe the 
}Dead could find a temporary replacement for Jerry.
}
}ASSUMING the Dead don't want to just wind down like
}an old clock, or Swiss watch as the case seems to be, then it makes
}sense than someone/thing is going to have to fill the void

	Well, I can't say I know what's going on in Jerry's head, but
	let me suggest that maybe he's been thinking about this for several
	years now.  On the "Built to Last" album (hmmm... significant
	title?) there were more Brent songs than anybody-else songs, and
	as I recall, "I Will Take You Home" was the last song on the
	album, which space had previously been filled for quite a while
	by Jerry songs ("Black Muddy River" and the like).  I remember when
	I first saw the songlist for the album, thinking, "hmm... is Jerry
	(who produced the album) setting up the new kid to take over???"

	This may also be related to why Jerry was (reportedly) so upset
	when Bruce Hornsby stopped sitting in with the band.  Hornsby is
	a songwriter/singer who has covered existing Dead songs, brought
	a couple of his own songs to the band, and has a number of songs
	in his own repertoire which could (arguably) be played by the
	Dead (I kept hoping for a China Cat -> Across the River -> Know
	You Rider, but never got it).

	Of course, neither Hornsby nor Brent would have filled the lead
	guitar spot, but maybe if somebody else was carrying more of the
	vocal lead, touring and just playing guitar wouldn't be such a
	strain for Jerry.  Although, after hearing Jerry start up Terrapin
	after his voice was obviously already totally shot during the
	'90 New Year's run, I did kinda get the impression that Jerry
	didn't particularly WANT to give up any of the singing chores...


	Ah, well, all speculation, and certainly nothing but best
	wishes and "get well soons" to the Jerrmeister...

Charles
From: Sheila Momaney <sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re: Re-  Does Garcia have an
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:36:13 GMT

        Reply to:   RE>Re:  Does Garcia have an obligation?
Dave D. Cawley writes:
|        HEY!!! Where are the Wharf Rats to give the spiel about addictive
|personalities and their destructive habbits? ...

I'll take the bait.
Jerry--addictive personality?  This net
is a good indication that we are all
addicted to his personality... 
I'm not a W.Rat but I've been studying addiction
for three years, and what I have learned in pursuit of
my degree is:  a man's gotta do what a man's gotta
do.  (so now you all know what you need for a degree
in psychology!!)  
Obligation, shmobligation.  This is one of the top
five stooopid things I've heard in my life. Jerry has
no obligation to anyone but himself.  Anyone who
thinks JG has an obligation to him/her should take
off their headphones and see the world, and maybe
another band!
--wheels
From: EEY9ATS@mvs.oac.ucla.edu (Andy Sudol)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: (COPY) Undelivered mail
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:37:40 GMT
Reply-To: EEY9ATS@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Organization: The Internet




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Date:    Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:33 PDT
To:      EEY9ATS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
From:    Postman@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Undelivered mail

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Date:    Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:33 PDT
To:      Dead-Flames@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
From:    Andy Sudol                           <EEY9ATS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Intro.

Hey Now Y'all!
   Just got on the net a couple days ago.  Thought I'd say Hi to everyone
and make myself known.  Sorry to hear the that Jerry's condition might
be serious (S.F. Chronicle story), but words attributed to Mickey and Bob
make it sound less critical than the press makes it appear.  Who knows
what to believe?!?
   In any case Jerry needs rest.  Anyone selfish enough to mention his
obligation to the fans needs to get his/her head on straight.  Obviously
its a bummer for those with tickets, but hey, let's just wish Jerry a
quick recovery and show a little patience.
   As to the technical posting by Curtiss.  I'd hate to see stuff like this
disappear from this list.
   If any of you are ever around UCLA, I'd be glad to meetcha.
   One request, if anyone has the songlists, or better yet, tapes of the
Vegas shows this year I'd be very interested in trading.  I can be reached at
EEY9ATS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU.  Phone:(310)206-8331.

Later,
Andy "Couch" Sudol                      WE'RE ALL WASTED!!!     3/31/92
From: caleb@cbmtoruucp (Caleb J. Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: DeadHeads
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:53:20 GMT
Organization: Commodore Business Machines (CANADA)
Keywords: peace, love and groovyness

Reading through the chaff to get to the happiness that used to be so prevelant
in this group, I happenned to look up at one of the bits of paper that line
my office to smooth the rough edges of the day.  Without permission from Lois
Glover, I offer her words to you all.  I don't think she'd mind.

Deadheads

Deadheads are people with a childlike faith in the ultimate goodness of
humanity.

Deadheads may grow old, but they never really grow up.  They would rather 
play frisbee than the stockmarket.  Happiness is a bottle of bubbles, a
strip of stickers, a VW camper, and tickets for the next Grateful Dead tour.

Deadheads deal with adversity by remembering that when they've done all there
is to do, "there's nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile"

Deadheads want to live in a peaceful world:  A world where all men and women
of all races and nationalities are one brotherhood of unique individuals 
living in harmony with each other.

Deadheads don't mind being different.  Although often misjudged because of
their unique appearance, their choice of clothes, hairstyles, and living 
standards is their statement to the rest of the world that they are unwilling
to blindly accept the doctrines of a society which builds bigger bombs while 
ignoring hungry neighbours.

Deadheads don't strive for wealth or posessions.  They prefer dead tickets to
diamonds, tie dyes to tuxedos, and friends to financial abundance.

Deadheads see the beauty of nature's simplicity.  They would rather dance in
a summer shower or walk barefoot through a rippling mountain stream than to
dine in fine restaurants or to attend social gatherings.

Deadheads will share with anyone in need.  If they have anything to share -
they will.  Be it money, food, energy, encouragement, or just a smile.
Deadheads share their blessings.

Deadheads believe our forefathers meant what they said when they wrote our
country's declaration of independance declaring all citizens have the right to 
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Deadheads are special people.

(c) 1986 - Lois Glover

Thank you Lois, and thank you to any who understand these words.
Keep the faith - darkness abounds.

-caleb (voices tell me what to do, they tell me what I say)

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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Rob Gilde <gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com>
Subject: Yet another correction to "Life After The Dead" announcement
Reply-To: gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:22:25 GMT

Eventually I will get this information correct.  Steve Biederman
uncovered another serious typo in my announcement.  Sorry for any
inconvenience.

The correct dates and times are:

Saturday August 22, 1992  9:00 AM
to Sunday August 23, 1992  Dusk


|  "Life After The Dead"
|  
|  weekend of August 22 and 23
|  Conde Lumberyard, Harrisburg, OR
|  between Eugene and Coburg - Take I5 exit 209
|  
|  $5/day
|  $15/weekend - includes camping!  
|  No re-entry.
|  
|  Gates open Saturday at 9pm.  Festival ends Sunday evening.
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              this should be Saturday at 9am,

Additional info:

The event will be in a big meadow.  There will be close to 30 bands.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Mark Takaro <mtakaro@library.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Deadicated II
Reply-To: mtakaro@library.berkeley.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:03:29 GMT

Cool thread, this.  I like the lists I've seen so far.  Some neat choices.
One of mine would be:

all of Weather Report Suite (Pts. 1 & 2) done by Dire Straits!

Now who can get back to the guy who did Deadicated and get him started
on this?
;-)
mark
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: steveha@sco.COM (Steve Harris)
Subject: Net Police (was Re: The Grateful Dead and the Mixolydian Mode..)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:14:06 GMT



In message <1992Aug13.190000.7971@sunspot.noao.edu> Todd Brown, in his
all-fired hurry to get rid of anything with intellectual depth, wrote
the following:
>>This is a very long post.  It is a detailed description of the concept
>>of modes, and modal playing.  It also discusses the prevalence of the 
>>mixolydian mode in the grateful dead's music and why they use it so much.

>>Comments?  Points?  Suggestions?  Elaborations?  Please POST THE RESPONSES
>>to the NET so we can keep a discussion going....  Thanks and later, Curt

>Ok, here I go again, steppin' in composte:-)

Most people step around, it when they see it coming (k-key?).  To the
posters of the data PLEASE DON'T STOP JUST BECAUSE TODD WANTS YOU TOO,
thanks.

>Question, is this or is this not a recreational
>newsgroup(rec.music.gdead)? So we need this highly technical
>disscusion on how it is the Dead manage to Jam so well.

I find such discussions highly stimulating and recreational.  If you are
too pea-brained ;-) to enjoy, why should that be our problem.  Just kidding,
of course, I'm sure you just aren't interested is all.

This comes up everytime the subject really gets interesting.  What better
place to discuss matters of interest to Deadheads (like the musicality of
the band, as well as the spirituality) than rec.music.gdead.

>So is it the combined opinion of the group that these discussions
>of brilliant understanding of musical education should continue
>or would it not be best for those concerned to take this discussion
>to email or start their own group tech.music. anaylisis of gdead:-)

Why don't you start a market.gdead.t-shirts.lithuanian if you want to
get rid of something uninteresting?  ;-)

Besides some of us don't want to have to read more newsgroups.  And maybe
we couldn't get them anyway.

>A thought if Phil is the only "educated" musician in The Dead, how
>is it that they have managed to do so well over the years playing
>all this highly technical educated modal type music? Could it come
>naturally or is it a developement caused by a high rate of experience
>and experimentation.

Maybe they are all highly motivated professionals, with something more
to gain than $$$.  Besides, I believe that Phil is the only "classically"
trained musician in the band.  Classical->Jazz->Electronic->Dead, or 
something like that.  Mickey is a highly educated drummer with as much
or more musical experience than Phil.  Jerry was/is a teacher of guitar.

Point is.  If you don't like the discussion, just stay out of it.