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From: dockhorn@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Patrick Dockhorn)
Subject: Re: Help with address Giessen Univ.
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:42:00 GMT

In <23JAN199314102101@rosie.uh.edu> chem8m@rosie.uh.edu (Serge Perrier) writes:

>I would like to know the E-Mail address of the following university...

Unfortunately, there is no such thing as an 'e-mail-address' for a
whole university (although some universities might provide an address
for general requests). E-mail goes to a person. If you know the name,
feed it together with 'giessen' to netfind, which might be able to
help you (you can telnet to a netfind server, e.g.
bruno.cs.colorado.edu and login as 'netfind' if you haven't got a
client). You might also want to read the FAQ about "How to find
people's e-mail address" which is periodically posted to news.answers.
If you know the department (i.e. the full domain name) you can send mail
to postmaster@my_favourite_department_within_justus_liebig_university.

-patsch

--
THE GOLDEN RULE OF ARTS AND SCIENCES
        The one who has the gold makes the rules.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: nraclaw@jade.tufts.edu (Nissan Raclaw)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Let's hit Nazis?
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:21:25 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA


	This argument back and forth over the Nazis and what the Germans
should or should not have done is, pardon me, fairly pointless.  The
speeches, writings and edicts of Adolf Hitler made it very clear that he
intended to rid Germany (at least) of Jews, one way or another.  The
point is, no one cared.  Not Germans, not Americans, not French.  In
Eastern Europe, the locals began mass murdering Jews as soon as they
heard that the Nazis were on their way.  In the Middle East, the Mufti
of Jerusalem was offering to set up crematoria in Dimona in Israel.
Everyone knew what the Nazis intended, but nobody cared.  Similarly, it
makes NO difference to me WHY people supported the Nazis.  Just like it
makes no difference to me why the blacks of Crown Heights decided to
attack the Jews there.  The only relevant fact is that nobody cares
about us (Jews) and it is only therefore up to us to look out for
ourselves.


Nissan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: lewis@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Subject: Re: DIE ZEIT Abonnement am billigsten in den USA ?!! (DM 96/year)
Reply-To: lew@bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:14:11 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.2.728093239.werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu>
werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) writes:

> typing in my last article, I became aware of an ad offering a subscription
> to DIE ZEIT in the US, which beats the price even in Germany, where the
> single issue costs DM 4 and the annual subscription DM 177 ...

Cheaper indeed, but it's only a subset (between half and third) of the real
thing.  Still, it's worth every penny imhO.

-- 
Pierre LEWIS    +1 514 765-8207      ESN 852-8207
Internet: lew@bnr.ca                 Corwan: lewis@bnrmtl

Implementing standards is like walking on water -- both work best when frozen.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Reply requested
From: mscs262@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:04:27 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

     This posting is a class assignment for a university level Computer
Science class.  We are supposed to send a posting to a country other than the
US and recieve responses to it.  If you have a spare moment, please respond 
to this posting prior to Monday, 25 January 93.  Thank you for your help!!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.german:10191 soc.culture.jewish:25907
From: abkevich@husc3.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jews for Germans
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:26:29 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <46314@unlisys.in-berlin.de>, stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de (Christian Lampl) writes:
> abkevich@husc3.harvard.edu writes:
> 
>>It is very pleasant to read messages from such polite person as you. I could
>>only mention that you don't have any evidence at all.
>>Christian Lampl, you were eager to fight with Nazis? I am waiting your
>>response. 
> 
> Viktor, the sentence "Let's hit Nazis ?" was a response to 
> two things Sascha (I think it was Sascha) said.
> First: He said in his postings that if the first city
>        in Germany is declared free of foreigners
>        that he will make his city clean of Nazis.
>        (I wonder how he wants to know who a Nazi 
>         is and who not, but maybe it doesn't matter
>         for him).
> From this sentence I thought to hear that he is willing
> to use violance against Nazis.
> 
> Second: Beyond the sentence "Let's hit Laurence" he wrote
>         something like he can't understand why a 
>         discussion could reach such level. 
> 
> With the things Laurence said he just proved that he is a Nazi.
> 
> So my sentence "Let's hit Nazis ?" was just a question why
> he is willing to use violance against the standard Nazi in his town
> and not discuss with him like he is willing to discuss with
> Laurence and his rasistic point of views.

I'll tell you. Till now Laurence is only talking, isn't he? He said that he
want to destroy Germany (as a state). I don't agree with him. However it is his
one of his fundamental rights - freedom of speech. I can understand why
discussion could reach such level (in Russia it would begin from it :-)).
However ... Well in Germany in 1933 it would also begin from it. (Yes. Yes. I
remember that US Marines raped women). But when one town in Germany would be
declared free from foreigners it would not be a talk any more. And it is just
right time to fight if you want to have any chance to win. 
> 
> And now to me, Viktor: 
> I won't hit Laurence and I won't hit Nazis before I haven't
> discussed with them and before they don't try to do a harm
> to me or another person.

When one town in Germany would be declared free from foreigners it would harm
them, don't you understand it? Discussions with Nazi would be very helpful. I
could even propose a place for discussions. Munich.

> 
> I don't have to prove anything to anybody. At least not 
> by hitting anybody. Ok ?
> 

You don't have to prove anything to anybody. You are a free person. It would be
"ok" even if you will join Nazis.

                              Cordially
                           Victor Abkevich
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,de.soc.kultur
From: gg@iok.unit.no (Gus Gassmann)
Subject: Re: Donau (war: Re: B27 (Was: Route 66, bzw. Bundesstrasse))
Organization: University of Trondheim
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 11:49:10 GMT

In article <C1HAqD.Eq6@jat.sub.org>, achim@jat.sub.org (Joachim Astel) writes:
|> s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
|> 
|> Weiter im Westen an Ehingen, Riedlingen, Sigmaringen, Tuttlingen vorbei
|> geht es durch das ganze Schwabenland zurueck bis nach Donaueschingen.
|> Dort scheint aber so ziemlich der Anfang zu sein, auf meiner (etwas un-
|> detaillierten) Karte sind nur noch kleinere Fluesse (Baeche?) zu finden,
|> im einzelnen sind dies Breg und Brigach. Die Quellen dieser Baeche sind
|> noch ziemlich weit im Westen Deutschlands (schon fast bei Freiburg).
Richtig: Brigach und Breg
Bringen die Donau zuweg.
|> 
|> oder besser Bratislava in der Slowakei. Vom Norden her muendet die oder
|> der "Morava" oder "March". Handelt es sich dabei um die (im klassischen
|> Stueck von Smetana in seiner "Moldaumelodie" festgehaltene) Moldau? 
Aber nein. Moldau=tschechich Vltava, fliesst durch Prag und zur Elbe.
From: schieber@jetson.uh.edu (Schieber, Jay D.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Minimum driving age?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:53 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <me.727727748@dude>, me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel) writes...
>In <LILLY.93Jan22012743@prost.nhmfl.fsu.edu> lilly@nhmfl.fsu.edu (Leonhard Lilly) writes:
>>PS: I have a question of my own: Does anyone (preferred German) have any
>>experience with transferring US driving licenses into German licenses
>>(i.e. motorcycle, trucks etc.)?? Might save a bundle, if possible!
> 
>A couple of former colleagues form the States have done this. It went
>like the following. You are allowed to use your US drivers license for
>a year in Germany. After this time you can have your license transferred
>into a german one - all you have to do is prove that you have driven

This is not exactly correct.  One is allowed to use one's US driver's
license for one year in Germany.  However, one can apply for a 
German driver's license after 6 months and before one year of 
driving.  The rest of the post is correct: owning a car, or
a letter from someone who does, is sufficient proof, and it is
not terribly expensive, but is certainly not free.  It also takes 
a bit of a wait for all of the bureacracy to go through.  One also
needs to take an eye exam.  However, the license is good for life 
(gultigkeit unbefristet), which is a bit frightening when you 
think about it.
From: lewis@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Subject: O weh! Koi Klage, nur a Frage
Reply-To: lew@bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:37:10 GMT

Kleine Frage zur schweren deutschen Sprache.  Meine Woerterbuecher haben
hier nicht geholfen.

Mir wurde von einer deutschen Kollegin bestaetigt, dass man nicht nur
"O weh" sondern auch "O wei" hoeren kann, und dass es dasselbe bedeutet.
Sie konnte das allerdings nicht erklaeren.

Was ist hier los?
- Aeltere (AEltere?) Schreibweise des selben Wortes?  Vielleicht "wey"?
- Anderes Wort?  Falls Ja, was bedeutet es?
- Hochsprache oder Dialekt?  Oder vielleicht Kirchensprache?  Dichtersprache?
- Es stimmt ueberhaupt nicht?

Vielen Dank im Voraus (VORvielenDankAUS),
-- 
Pierre LEWIS    +1 514 765-8207      ESN 852-8207
Internet: lew@bnr.ca                 Corwan: lewis@bnrmtl

Implementing standards is like walking on water -- both work best when frozen.
From: 6236jamisonr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: test
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:48:20 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: REPLY REQUESTED
From: mscs262@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:24:18 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University


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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Erklaerung gegen Fremdenhass und Antisemitismus in Deutschland [Die Zeit]
Date: 26 Jan 1993 20:30:50 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	vielleicht hat jemand die parallele Annonce in amerikanischen Zeitungen
	gesehen und can sie wiedergeben (anstatt einer Uebersetzung?)

	ich finde wir sollten fast irgendwas zur Unterstuetzung dieser Gruppe
	organisieren, und wenn wir uns blos solidarisch erklaeren mit Ihnen.
	Man koennte hierfuer eine email-Sammeladdresse kreieren an die ihr
	eine diesbezuegliche email schicken koenntet. Die konnte man dann ausdrucken
	und an die vorliegende Addresse von Herrn Judt schicken.  Wenn ein Netter
	in D.C. lebt (Fred?) koennte man vielleicht versuchen auch Herrn Judt
	telefonisch zu erreichen und zum Mitmachen hier einladen (oh-oh, der Arme ;-)
-- 
  werner@cs.utexas.edu |  ..!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!werner | werner@UTXVM.bitnet

              "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"
From: mece1uu@rosie.uh.edu (Singer, Jurgen Kurt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: German microcomputer magazines
Date: 26 Jan 1993 12:41 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan25.203011.14481@ulysses.att.com>, jdg@ulysses.att.com (J. David Garland) writes...
>I would like to subscribe to a German-language microcomputer
>magazine, preferably something like Dr. Dobbs or Byte in the
>US.
> 
>If you have any suggestions (along with addresses), I'd
>be grateful.
> 
>Thanks
> 
>Dave Garland
>jdg@ulysses.att.com
> 
I have not been back in Germany for some time, but the best magazine I remember
is c't Magazin fuer Computer & Technik by Heise Verlag Hannover (email me if
you need the exact address - I have to get it from home) This magazine covers
Hardware (mostly PC's) and software at an advanced level (90% of the readers
have a degree in engineering). I did not like MC magazine that much, since
I thought their level degraded over the last few years. There are also lots
of magazines out there which mostly address users with less expertise.
(The products from Markt & Technik Verlag come to my mind, though Dr. Dobbs
is actually owned by Markt & Technik)
Heise Verlag also has a magazine dealing specifically with Unix, but I have 
not sampled it.

Jurgen 
===========================================================================
Jurgen K. Singer
Dept. of Mathematics                                 University of Houston
Space Vacuum Epitaxy Center                          mece1uu@jetson.uh.edu
Center for Advanced Molecular Computations           jurgen@math.uh.edu
===========================================================================
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:23:30 CST
From: <U60019@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Mir reicht es jetzt !
Distribution: world
 <1993Jan25.234349.12984@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
 <1k4338INN11t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

I can't believe it! Finally somebody hit the nail on the head!
Thank you, Jens!

When I first started reading J4G, I had the same feeling
I got when reading the W.Brandt-thread: annoyance and boredom.
But after a while, so many interesting opinions emerged, that
I readily put up with the trash-articles that are an unavoidable
side-effect of any *real* discussion. One could learn so much
about others as well as oneself, e.g. how one should not
immediately fill the net with "please hit that guy who ..."
after reading an insulting post :-), that everybody should
be glad that Laurence had the elephant's hide to start this
and "enjoy" all the follow-up's (CAPITAL :-) ).

I really think this was one of the best ways to learn about
today's Germany and the opinions of people living there -
if you're not prejudiced, of course. Those who are will
rarely realize, but sometimes even the blind learn how
to see.

Just an example: Mr.Godfrey did post a lot of junk,
but if one reads his articles carefully, one can also
discover a lot of intelligent observations and remarks.
It certainly doesn't make sense to KILL a person after
reading a few annoying posts, as one is not a good judge
in bad moods. Whoever prefers to show his anger to
everyone immediately after reading an offending article
(perhaps even before reading it completely :-) ) should
feel free to do so in rec.sport.soccer (the biggest
FLAME-war you can think of) or the test-group.
Any other posting should be done only after counting
to hundred (or more, if you're really furious)!

Hopeful (though not too hopeful :-( )

Volker

======================================================
Volker Kleinschmidt, University of Illinois at Chicago
u60019@uicvm.uic.edu
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: IST DAS ALLES ????
Date: 21 Jan 93 04:58:15 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

cabku01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Hartwig Kuehbauch) writes:

>Ich lese diese newsgroup jetzt seit gut 2 Wochen und ich muss sagen, ich bin
>ueber alle Massen enttaeuscht!
>Ist das wirklich alles, was sich in der 'culture.german' abspielt? Juden, 3.
>Reich und Nazis? Wo bleiben den die anderen kulturellen Aspekte des Lebens
>in Deutschland?
>= Hartwig Kuehbauch - University of Tuebingen - Dep. of Inorg. Chemistry II =

Tchja! 

Ich war lange weg und ruhig. Aber es aendert sich nichts. Da kommen immer 
wieder welche zum Vorschein denen das Thema eben sehr lieb ist. Ich wollte ja 
auch nichts dazu sagen und etwas schlauer sein, aber der Mensch ist schwach 
und laesst sich zur Verteidigung der Gerechtigkeit. Es sind ja unsere Eltern 
und Grosseltern auch auf dem Spiel.  Auch gibt es sehr viel Leute die sich
nicht mehr verteidigen koennen.  Sie haben Ihr Leben an dem Gerecht gelassen.

Es stimmt aber.  Man muesste die Scheisse eben fliessen lassen.

Ich wollte eben nur noch sagen das diese Gruppe auch andere Zwecke hat und
mich bei allen bedanken die mir die Mailbox vollgesteckt haben.  Ueberhaupt
die vielen Leute von der Uni in Erlangen und Tuebingen.  Ich weiss garnicht
wie der Herbert Oppmann von Erlangen das alles so schnell in den Computer 
bringt.  Also ich bekomme Zeitungsartikel, Auszuege aus Telefonbuechern von
ganz Mittelfranken und alles moegliche aus dem Computer der Uni von der
Library.  My cup runneth over!  Und ich bin baff.

Es ist wirklich das andere Ende vom Netz und dieser Gruppe.  Es giebt zu
viele prima Leute (in this group) um sich von ein paar verdrehten Menschen
abschrecken zu lassen.  Wahrscheinlich sind auch die meisten Leser hier
ziemlich ruhig und sagen nur was wenn auch was zu sagen ist.  Davon sollte ich
etwas lernen.  :-)

Ich bedanke mich herzlichst an alle die fuer mich die kleinen Flecken in
Franken suchten.  Fuer alle die Gu"ntersrieth nicht finden konnten, es ist
jetzt ein Teil von Pommelsbrunn.  Den ersten Preis dafuer bekamen Michael
Maisack (Tuebingen) u.  Herbert Oppmann (Erlangen).  Einige der anderen
frueheren Doerfer sind jetzt eben nur noch Nachbarschaften in groesseren
Staedten.

Zwei von Euch wollten wissen warum ich das wissen will. Es ist eine lange 
Geschichte aber kurz gesagt hat es mit family history zu tun. Vor ueber 200 
Jahren kamen naemlich einige Regimenter aus Ansbach/Beyreuth nach Amerika um 
fuer die boesen Englaender hier zu kaempfen. Also es waren nicht nur 
haessliche Hessen. Ich suche eben wo diese Leute herkamen weil ein 
Lebensbruder mein Urururururgrossvater war. Es ist nicht einfach die 
Vergangenheit wieder zum Leben zu bringen aber mit Hilfe vom Netz geht alles.

Fred












-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     "A man's library is a sort of 
26 Warren St.   home: fr@icdi10.compu.com 	harem" - Emerson (1860) 
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   
Xref: sparky soc.culture.german:10238 soc.culture.jewish:25995
From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Let's hit Nazis?
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:02:21 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.german
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <46313@unlisys.in-berlin.de> stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de (Christian Lampl) writes:
>Maybe because some people out there seem to believe that it is
>very very cruel if a german soldier raped a polish woman in
>1940, but that it doesn't matter if a russian soldier raped
>a german woman in 1945.

Yes, of course, because the Russians (Soviets) & Allies won the war. So
naturally their history is twisted to serve the victors' ends. This is the usualway. And of course, descendents of aggressors and victims of the War are
more interested in continuing to mentally prosecute such crimes from fifty
years ago than they are in the wholesale rape of Muslim women in Bosnia today.

It's one thing to carry a cross, but quite another to beat it over another
generation fifty years after the fact.

My guess is that, while the Holocaust should not be forgotten, it will be the
source of hatred of Germans by Jews in 2000 years as persecution of Jews 2000
years ago feeds hatred in the Middle East today.

Dan
deherrin@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: ewadams@netcom.com (Ernest Adams)
Subject: Annette Hahn, are you there?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:44:40 GMT

Sorry for the general posting, but due to a system crash, I have lost
the address for Annette Hahn, currently living in the Munich area.
If you are Annette, or if you know her, please write to

ewadams@netcom.com

on the Internet.

You can also write to

71170,161 on CompuServe
E.ADAMS10 on GEnie
EWAdams on America On-Line
mef@netcom.com
From: veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Minimum driving age?
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:35:29 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

In article <16B5DFB40.BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU>, BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Stephanie Edelmann) writes:
> In article <C181uq.17x@inews.Intel.COM>
> jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:
>  
> Yes, you do have to attend driving school.  There is a minimum number
> of hours of practical training you have to attend.  (Was that 16?)
> Most people that I went to school with needed between 18-22 hours.
> (Our class geek took 50!!!! hours) The practical training includes
> a minimum of 6 hours on a stick shift, 1 hour night drive, 1 hour
> autobahn and I don't know what else.  We were also required to attend
> 12 hours of theoretical training.  While the practical training cost
> $30/ hour (This was 10 years ago - am I really THAT old?) and the
> practical training was free.  There was a fee for the test, but I
> don't remember what it was.  The theoretical test is also somewhat
> more difficult than the theoretical test here (at least in Kentucky)
> I had to take the theoretical test, not the practical test in order
> to get an american drivers license.

That's interesting -- I had to take both a written test and a driving
test when I came here about a year ago (probably, because everything
is different in California -- if you have an out-of-state american
drivers license, e.g., from Nevada, and you go to California, you need
to take the written test, too).  The written test was easy, but the
practical test was hard.  Not only, because I had to stick to the
rules (what a change after 15 years of "free" driving), but the 
tester let me drive for about 45 minutes.   Most likely, because I have
a convertible and I had the top down!

This is also something that is different:  You have to come in your
own car for the driving test (you are allowed to drive to the driving
test, but you have to have someone with a driver's license accompanying
you!), whereas in Germany you are not allowed to drive a car at all
unless you have a driver's license.

The only reason I had to get an american driver's license is that I 
purchased my own car.  If you buy your own car in California, you need 
to have a Californian driver's license (an out-of-state license is not
allowed!).  As long as I drove my rented car, my German license was 
accepted.  So, if you do not want to make your own driver's license,
just borrow a car from a friend!

Wie wuerde doch Obelix sagen: Die spinnen, die Kalifornier!

-- Veit
From: chem8m@rosie.uh.edu (Serge Perrier)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Help with address Giessen Univ.
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:10:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi folks,


I would like to know the E-Mail address of the following university in Germany:

        UNIV. GIESSEN

If any one out there knows the answer please e-mail to me.

Thanks in advance,

Serge Perrier			 chem8m@jetson.uh.edu
From: mxsst1+@pitt.edu (Michael Stroucken)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Napoleon...
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:12:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.2545
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <46330@unlisys.in-berlin.de> stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de (Christian Lampl) writes:
>War ein guter Film, nicht ?
>Berlin wurde von Napoleon *nicht* verbrannt.
>An einer Stelle des Filmes sagt er aber wirklich, dass
>er Berlin haette verbrennen sollen.

	Ich glaube die haben aber die Quadriga vom Brandenburger Tor mit-
genommen...
MS
-- 
I heard that some of the women in Arkansas are so fast, they have to
put a Govenor on them!
Internet: mxsst1@pitt.edu,       Anonymously: wi.6194@n7kbt.rain.com        :)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german