HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: 21 Aug 1992 13:27:04 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <3489@unisql.UUCP>, ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Hey y'all,
|> 
|> I'm gonna be riding to Houston this weekend (from Austin)
|> and I was planning on taking 290 all the way, seeing as how
|> I-10 is so boring.  Does anybody know any places along the
|> way to be careful, like well-known speed traps, small-town cops
|> who hate motorcyclists, that kind of thing?  I haven't been
|> out there in years & years, and never on a bike.  

Well, 290 is pretty boring as well.  But I've ridden 290 quite a
bit . . well, a couple times to Austin and back, and several
times from Houston to Hempstead(where I catch 6 north).  Never
had any problems with cops . . . . and that's considering that
my moto, for some unknown reason!! ;-), won't stay at the posted
speed limit!!

Of course, depending on the time of day/week, and the direction
you're going, you may run into a lot of traffic . . which is
good . . .breaks up the monotiny(sp?) . . . .and gives you a
lot of cages to hide behind/around *just in case* of radar!! ;-)

Mark
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:02:07 GMT
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston

In article <jcn.714408536@helix> jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
=>If I ever get my forks fixed, I am interested in either a day ride 
=>on that Saturday or possibly a two day affair, camping out somewhere 
=>on Saturday night, or even Friday night if that would be better.
=>
=>The Hill Country is the place, but other than that, no set plans.
=>
=>Any takers?
=>

I am game.. but only for Saturday and/or Sunday...

=>*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
=>*  DoD#0402         AMA#568571  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *

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From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:05:42 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
>>The Hill Country is the place, but other than that, no set plans.
>
>if you've got something against the Splatterfest, that's fine, but if
>you're gonna steal our ideas we're gonna have to send Mark "Thumper"
>Parsons to have a little chat with you. I guess I'll have to start
>putting copyright notices on Splatterfest plans...
>

Actually LaborDay weekend is the time for the Anual Houston BMW
Club rally in Giddings.  

Joe, don't worry, with such short notice they never could pulloff
a splatterfest clone.  AT best they could hope for is a taudry
group of houstonites who have no clue where the real hill country
roads are and what the best ones are.

Steve Bade
Co-producer of Splatterfest (TM)
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:57:52 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <yw_n92k.rbp@netcom.com> rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) writes:
>
>
>hey, i thought *all* the roads in tx were boring! except maybe
>out in the hill country, where all those crosses are painted
>in the road.

For the most part, you are correct. For instance, I was travelling down I35
about 14 years ago on my 400-4 somewhere south of Waco.  Saw this guy on a
750 lying down on his back, head resting on his bedroll, steering with his
feet. I figure that's about as bored as you can get without stopping.

There are a few exceptions, but few, far in between, and mostly very
high-speed to get a little excitement out of them. There used to be a gaggle
of Guzzi's who would make the Austin-Big Bend run at very high speeds, but I
haven't heard anything about them in years. Anyone know if they still meet?
My brother used to make the Austin-Corpus run on his Triumph at ~120-130 mph
back in the late sixties.

Most of us agree that the object of riding in Texas is to cover lots of
territory in a short amount of time. If you find a corner, enjoy it 3 or 4
times cause it'll be a while till you find another.  :^)

>lurking from CA no more,

So where's your new lurking spot?

>-- 
>--- bob pasker
>---- rbp@netcom.com
From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:33:08 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <jcn.714408536@helix>, jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
|> If I ever get my forks fixed, I am interested in either a day ride 
|> on that Saturday or possibly a two day affair, camping out somewhere 
|> on Saturday night, or even Friday night if that would be better.
|> 
|> The Hill Country is the place, but other than that, no set plans.
|> 
|> Any takers?

Sure, count me in . . . just let me know when/where!!

Mark
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: did someone say Splatterfest ??
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:29:14 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Organization: NOT

the itch is coming back. the last one was a hack of a lot of fun, and
like sex, once you've tried it you can never get enough. since steve
and I can't get enough (the wives too :), some ideas are being tossed 
around here at Texas Splatterfest headquarters. I thought I'd query 
folks to see how much interest there would be in a fall fest. at this 
point the plans are about as fuzzy as the dice in cheech & chong's 
low rider, but there are some identifiable traits.

we're thinking the first weekend in October, or perhaps the next to
the last weekend in September.

we're thinking possibly a camping trip, with support vehicles supplied
to hold gear to keep the biking portion as fun as possible.

if the camping trip materializes, I'll take care of logistics like
reservations, camp meals, gear transportation, etc.

what are you thinking? if enough of you are thinking like me, I'll
cut loose some more details to see if it gets more attractive.

let's have other thoughts as well, I'm perfectly happy to listen to
all of your inputs, and then make my own descision anyway :-)

I've still got the fest alias set up, and will copy posts to it
unless you gripe and want off. if you want on, send me a note.
send mail to "fest@zx11.cactus.org" to send to the last group
of festonians, send mail to me for list changes.

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:43:40 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

>
>we're just giving you shit jeff. 
And we're dam good at it, if I do say so myself :-)....

>
>]I humbly apologize to the great gods of Splatterfest! 
You should apologize and buy each of us 2 tanks of gas
and 2 oil changes for your transgressions.

>
>well, ok, I guess you can be the honorary splatteree for the next fest  :)
>
Now Joe,  I though we had picked a certain someone who used to
have silly poems in his signature (La la la la la ) as the splatteree.
I guess jeff could be designated auxilary splatteree.

Anyhow, Splaterfest (TM) the next edition will not be labor
day.  To much else going on.  Jeff, go to giddings 
the BMW crowd doesn't care about your ride, just that
you ride,  If you are gonna go let me know I'll figure
out some way to let you identify our camping area.

>Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
>Austin, TX                                                 92 BMW K100RS16VABS
Joe, you finaly got the dam bike model correct in your signature...

---
Steve Bade						  steve@zx11.cactus.org
Austin TX

BMW --- Theres more to life than a bigger office.
From: jrowland@cs.utexas.edu (John Richards Rowland)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: gas tank treatment
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:24:43 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu

Anyone have any caveats or praise of tank treatment
products?  My 76 GoldWing has a rusty tank.  Anyone
have any suggestions for muffler paint?  Thanks

--JR


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From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:48:56 GMT
Organization: Rice University

If I ever get my forks fixed, I am interested in either a day ride 
on that Saturday or possibly a two day affair, camping out somewhere 
on Saturday night, or even Friday night if that would be better.

The Hill Country is the place, but other than that, no set plans.

Any takers?


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*  DoD#0402         AMA#568571  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
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Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:50:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: tx



hey, i thought *all* the roads in tx were boring! except maybe
out in the hill country, where all those crosses are painted
in the road.


lurking from CA no more,

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--- bob pasker
---- rbp@netcom.com
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Splatterfest: shall we?
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:21:06 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Organization: NOT

well, there appears to be considerable interest in the camping
thing. certainly more than expected (you people will do anything
to get together to ride :).

I don't think gear will be a problem, a few people are tentless,
and a few have extra tent space. as things materialize I'll work
out the exact accomidations.

I've been trimming the fuzz off the dice, and it's starting to
look like this:

  the campsite is near the Austin area. the official ride leaves
  saturday morning from the campsite, and returns to the campsite.
  this gives all day saturday for a nice ride, I'm thinking somewhere
  like the bandera area, or the fredericksburg area, or whatever.
  steve bade has volunteered his tiotee pickumup with a top to store
  and xport gear in. you can come to Austin on friday eve like last
  time, or head directly to the campsite sat. morning. at the campsite
  saturday morn, we'll stow the gear and take care of any other things
  and head for the road, say, 10ish like last time. sunday is spent at 
  the campsite, giving you the whole day free for return travel or just
  hanging out.

thoughts?

we need to decide on the date. I need time to make arrangements
and such so it can't be too soon. the nights are going to start
getting chilly soon so I don't want to wait too long. the days
will be perfect, we'll just have to bundle up at night. there was also
some concern about students with tests scheduled then.

I hate to just pick a date since I'm bound to make someone miss out
and I really don't want to do that. I'll offer up some dates that
are in a good planning timeframe and take votes.

tell your non-net friends! the more people that make this, the
more fun it will be.

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Official Texas Splatterfest Vote Form

Possible Dates:

     Sept. 19   ___
     Oct.  03   ___
     Oct.  10   ___
     Oct.  17   ___
     Don't Care ___  (any of the dates are ok, go with the date that
                      presents the fewest conflicts)

send to:  joe@zx11.cactus.org, repeat for others that you invite...
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Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:10:20 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: tx
Organization: NOT

ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
]I'm gonna be riding to Houston this weekend (from Austin)
]and I was planning on taking 290 all the way, seeing as how
]I-10 is so boring.  

290 is damn boring, Ray...

]Any advice appreciated.

get yourself a copy of The Roads of Texas at a local Bookstop. it'll
show you a shitload of much better ways to get to Houston (as many as
possible considering you're talking HOUSTON).

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
Newsgroups: tx.test
From: emcguire@fuller.intellection.com ()
Subject: try again
Organization: Intellection, Inc.
Distribution: tx
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:42:07 GMT

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Newsgroups: tx.test
From: emcguire@mama3.intellection.com ()
Subject: try
Organization: Intellection, Inc.
Distribution: tx
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:40:39 GMT

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Newsgroups: tx.politics,alt.politics.clinton
From: rocky@NeoSoft.com (Joe Mullally)
Subject: Re: Trade Imbalance
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:00:47 GMT

In article <WVBITL5@taronga.com> kossack@taronga.com (Jordan M. Kossack) writes:
>   Disclaimer:  I'm not a guitar ... but I play one on TV.  

	True?


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Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Fetal Brainwaves (was: Re: fetus vs. baby)
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:21:42 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Distribution: tx
Organization: River Parishes Programming, Austin, Republic of Texas

In article <1992Aug18.143851.8351@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>                                                      After all, this
>is the first time that Mr. Haugh bothered to give a source for his
>contention, either.

This is the forth or fifth time I've posted the same exact paragraph.
I once posted the entire page.  Your reaction was identically the
same the last time.  And your response was conspicuously non-existent
that time as well.  You never did post your source, and you never did
retract your claim.  Just a reference to a nebulous friend ...

I would encourage you to be VERY careful what you write about fetal
development since gestation begins at 3 WEEKS into a pregnancy.  The
first 2 WEEKS involve the egg beginning its travels down the fallopian
tube.  Thus 12 weeks into a pregnancy is really only 9 weeks of
gestation.  I know that you will request a reference for this statement,
so here is one

	"Since pregnancy is dated medically from the first day of your
	 last period, the record begins with what is termed the third
	 week of a 40 week pregnancy, the week of conception."
			-- The Complete Book of Pregnancy and Childbirth

So, the 6 to 8 weeks figure could very well be 3 to 5 weeks gestation,
and we are back below the 40 day gestation figure.  Note that the table
was titled "Fetal Growth".  There is no inconsistency.
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Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: richard@technology.com (Richard Murphy)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: S&L mess
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:30:38 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

Chris, are you saying that Reagan had no hand in the S&L
deregulation, that it was all the idea of congress,and he
signed the bill(s) without protest? I seem to remember that
he was a big advocate of deregulation and congress, foolish
as they were, went along with it.

You can't have it both ways: If it was good, Reagan/Bush
were responsible and if it fucked up, congress/somebody
else was. My concern of the Reagan years was that they
seemed to give Reagan eveything he wanted....
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: Re: fetus vs. baby
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Distribution: tx
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:00:37 GMT

In article <qFlxr*IQ0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.102724.16941@montagar.com>, David L. Cathey writes:
>
>> 	If you really want to limit abortions, you have GOT to provide
>> sex education for children once they start to reach child-bearing age.
>> You need to provide birth control to those that want it.  I don't mind
>> encouraging abstinence until they are out of school, but you CAN"T make
>> them feel ashamed or resentful, or they will just have sex unprotected.
>
>The data shows that since sex education in the schools started, teen pregnancies
>increased dramatically.  Since condoms began being distributed in the schools,
>teen pregnancies have soared even higher.
>
>
>                                                Jim Pritchett
>
>
>UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
> or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp

Jim, would you please cite this data?  I feel it necessary for this debate.
Does the data you cite include control groups? [pure speculation--no flames
yet] Could it be possible that the reason the number of teen pregnancies
increased was attributable to other means besides sex education?  For example,
an increase in the amount of teen to get pregnant, increased sexaul activitity
among teens (including teens that were not enrooled in sex ed).  You
were implying that because sex ed and condom distribution increased teen
promiscuity, an increase in teen pregnancy occured.  Correlation does not
prove causation.

David L. Leon (who is still battling it out with the Text Editor!)
dleon@seas.smu.edu

Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Pro-Choice
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:26:59 GMT

In <b1lxr*BQ0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.143952.7735@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, fred j mccall 575-3539 writes:

>> In <ekHvr*+P0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <1992Aug12.152130.17198@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, fred j mccall 575-3539 writes:
>> 
>> >> Please demonstrate factually exactly how it is that a lump of tissue,
>> >> no matter how 'human' it may look, which has no human brainwaves can
>> >> qualify as 'human'.  When people achieve that state (no human
>> >> brainwaves), we generally adjudge them to be DEAD (insofar as being
>> >> live people goes).
>> 
>> >No, YOU explain how a fetus, which (unless it dies) WILL soon be totally
>> >indistinguishable from a human being (because it is one) months, is somehow
>> >magically NOT human.  Dead people usually don't get brainwaves later.  Babies
>> >do.
>> 
>> No, babies don't "get brainwaves later".  Babies HAVE them.  No
>> brainwaves, no human being in residence.

>I wish you guys would quit trying to euphemise babies into "tissue."

And I (and 'us guys', no doubt) wish you would quit telling us what we
think.  If it doesn't have brainwaves it isn't human.  Simple rule.
Even you should get it.

>> It's only a matter of time until we can grow a complete new you from a
>> tissue sample.  Does that make every cell in your body a 'human
>> being', or do they only BECOME human beings when we do that procedure
>> and they develop into one?

>There you go again.  The theoretical possibility of cloning is NOT relevant.

Why not?  It's the same thing, is it not?  

>> By your reasoning, an egg IS a chicken.

>A fertilized chicken egg has a chicken inside.  

False.  At some point, a fertilized and incubated chicken egg DEVELOPS
a chicken inside.

>A puppy is a dog.  

That one is true.

>A baby is a human.  

That one is true, too.

>A fetus is a baby.  

But that one isn't.

>These are things that everyone knows.  

Why do you insist on this silly position that 'you guys' all know
these things?  What I know seems to be quite at odds with what you
claim I know.

>You pro-abortion
>people simply want to change the words so that you can rationalize your pro-murder
>position.

I don't need to rationlize killing human beings.  I also don't need to
rationlize abortion.  They are two quite different things.  You don't
seem to have any problems rationalizing killing human beings in your
espousement of capital punishment.  What about that?

Get a new song, Jim.  This one about how we all really know what you
claim, even though it isn't true, is merely silly.  Not to mention
tiresome. 


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Newsgroups: tx.politics,alt.politics.clinton
From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Trade Imbalance
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:33:28 GMT

In article <53#n-hh.crisp@netcom.com> crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp) writes:

>-- 
>Richard Crisp             Cupertino, Ca.           crisp@netcom.com
>(415) 903-3832 wk  "I don't brake for Liberals"  (408) 253 4541 fax
>
>The richest 5% of the population paid 36.4% of the income taxes collected
>in 1980. By 1990 they were paying 42.9% of the income taxes. Furthermore
>they had an increase of 17.9% in dollars paid. The total tax base increased
>while inflation and interest rates decreased under this pro-growth taxation
>policy. The assertion that the rich got an unfair tax break by shifting the load
>from them to the poor is simply unsupported by fact. These figures came from
>the Wall Street Journal 8/5/92
>

This quote omits one relevant statistic: we see how the richest 5% are
paying a greater share of the naitions taxes, and that the $$$ that
they paid increased by 17.9%.  BUT ... what was the income of the
richest 5% in 1980 vs. 1990.  Without this as a reference, all of the
above is irrelevant.  Unless that "richest 5%" is not richest 5% of
the people but those who's income/assets add up to the top 5% ...




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