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From: porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Teensy Weensy Virginities
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:57:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Oct16.175728.2289
Organization: Raccoon-Silkies have more fun !

In article <1bmcbkINNp83@agate.berkeley.edu>, rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:

> Apparently it took over an hour for the batteries to die down, and about 24
> hours to get it out ... right before he decided to go to the hospital.

 - or -

 "Spot the Duracell commercial you probably /won't/ be seeing on television".


-- Porsupah

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From: yal@cltr.uq.oz.au (Yvette Lian)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Femme/Butch in Bisexuality
Keywords: Femme Butch
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:29:56 GMT
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.

In article <iw.719005625@tosser> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (The_Devine_Dolly) writes:
>>she wore all black leather all the time, was covered in chains, had a
>>shaved head (mohawk style, it was just starting to grow back), and was very
>>muscly.  THAT'S what I call butch.  So by that definition, I am not butch
>
>She sounds pretty butch to me.  Where is she ? :-)

Lismore, I think.  I think she was with one of the women who travelled to
Brisbane to provide entertainment during Pride.  And what's more, this
other woman was just as drool-worthy as the first :)


--
Yvette Lian
yal@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au or s315948@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au (student account)
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From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: New Group Formed!
Date: 17 Oct 1992 02:43:53 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <MUFFY.92Oct16192233@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:

->*Am* I overly optimistic?  Are bi-friendly people often upset by being
->approached (nicely) by someone of the "wrong" sex?

Well, I can't say anything about anyone but my friend and I.

He's very bi-friendly (and very cute, but that's another story, since he's
straight) ... a while ago, another friend of mine, who was gay, let him know
that he thought he was just _adorable_ (which I agree with, BTW), and well,
wanted to get to know him better ...

He declined politely ... but over the next few days whenever I saw him he
had this really wide grin on his face ... from conversations with him, I got
the distinct impression he was very flattered ... 

As for me, back when I was queer-positive (I'm not positive anymore), I
considered the prospect.  I never got propositioned by someone of the wrong
gender (or someone of the right gender, for that matter :) ), but I used to
think that regardless of the possibility of things developing, if someone
tells you they're interested in you, you probably should be flattered,
regardless of the possible viability of anything happening.  This is, of
course, assuming a nice approach ...

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport           rsr@soda.berkeley.edu            rsr@ocf.berkeley.edu
                   The few.  The proud.  The geeks.
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: alan@osf.org (Alan Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Geraldo
Organization: Open Software Foundation
	<TcJqsB13w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca>
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:41:11

alan@osf.org (Alan Hamilton) writes:
> Talk show hosts are usually "pretty arbitrary about what the subject
> is," unless you build a relationship with them, explain the various
> side issues that are likely to come up, and get their help in heading
> them off (or at least clearly identifying them as other issues.)

panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
> No wonder I don't watch talk shows more often.  Are there none with 
> intelligent hosts?  I listen to some on radio but TV hosts seem to be,  
> by and large, uninformed and assinine.

Actually, the host may or may not be intelligent.  The key to
understanding these shows is that most of them are "talking heads."
The host is an actor, and s/he is mostly acting at the direction of
someone else behind the stage - the producer.  The host usually has a
small earphone, through which the producer often tells her/him what to
do next.

Therefore, one key to doing good media appearances is to get to know
the producer and assistant producers, educate them about bisexuality,
and tell them what you do and don't want to participate in.  Let them
know that you are part of an organized community, and that you want to
work with them.  It usually doesn't pay to get heavy- handed, but you
can tell them that if they mess people over, the word will get around
and they will have much more difficulty finding people for their show.
For instance, "People Are Talking" in Boston packed the studio
audience with homophobes for their show on the first National Coming
Out Day, and the Mayor's Liason to the Lesbian and Gay Community would
not work with them the next year.  Woody Glenn used that as an
opportunity to educate and negotiate with them.  He told them that he
knew that the Mayor's Liason would not even return their calls, and
that if they messed it up again that year, the information would go
out far and wide.  They have 364 days a year to have a homophobic
show.  We don't care to participate in one on National Coming Out Day.
They agreed, and have done good shows on NCOD every year since.

The producer also has a great deal of control over what gets on the
air.  From that year forward, we have always been surprised by the
difference between what the show sounds like for those who are there,
and what it looks like on television.  The producer controls who gets
the camera and which mikes are on.  One year, there was a vocal anti-
LBG group, but almost none of their remarks or catcalls could be heard
on the televised program (even though it was live.)  It would be
unreasonable to ask that they let no anti-gay opinions be expressed
(what they present has to appear somewhat balanced, or anti-LBG folks
will stop watching), but in our case they were willing to let someone
give a single short quote from the bible and then concentrated on
pro-LBG sentiment in the studio and callers (which were mixed pro- and
anti-LBG.)

-Alan
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@amber.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: *grin*
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:10:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.130934.24932@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
[much insane grinning]
|Go ahead, ask me about last night--I dare ya!!
|*beam*

   Okay..

   Did you get in some really killer trainspotting and see that Lima
switcher that you've been looking for for years?  Get some interesting
night pictures of trolleycars?  Find some old transit maps in the local
library?

   Oh, wait, this isn't rec.railroad, it's soc.bi.   Ooops.

   I don't think we *need to ask...

   david parsons
From: rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: National Coming Out Day
Date: 12 Oct 1992 09:26:18 GMT
Organization: Closet Interior Decorator
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1baj8qINNqku@agate.berkeley.edu> jcripe@garnet.berkeley.edu (Janice E. Cripe) writes:
>
>Since today is National Coming Out Day, I thought I'd add
>myself to the long list of people I've seen demuffining
>themselves recently and go ahead and post.

Welcome.  I hope you will find it as positive an expierence
as I have.

>
>I hope that someday I'll actually have something useful
>to post here, but for right now, I just wanted to peek
>out from behind my CRT and thank you folks for some
>interesting and insightful (and sometimes funny) reading.
>
>Thanks for your time!
>
>- Janice Cripe

Don't worry about having to have something useful to post.
From what I've read (and posted) it doesn't seem to be
a requirement.  Just try to avoid always writing your posts
at 3am like I always end up doing....leads to a lot typos and
tons of horrible grammer.

--Robert

>Nobody Knows I'm Bisexual - seen on a T-shirt in my closet.

Sounds similar, soc.bi is the only place I have ever really come out.
But hopefully it won't stay that way for long.

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From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:20:07 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <6396@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> colin@manchester.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.120414.28830@news.acns.nwu.edu>, Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>|>  "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him."
>|> [...] The point, as I read it, is that "enlightenment"
>|> comes from within, not from external authority. Worshiping the
>|> external Buddha is a barrier to progress.

*WHAP* (bonks Albert on the head with a stick)

>I think it's slightly more fundamental - I interpret it as meaning
>that you wil *not* meet the Buddha on the road - so if you think you
>do, you're imagining it.  Destroy the hallucination.  As you say,
>progress can only come from within*.

*WHAP* (bonks Colin on the head)

>|> Similarly, in the coming-out
>|> process, our development comes from being true to ourselves, not
>|> by mindlessly following the example of some "super-queer".

boggles, and *WHAP*s Albert again, just to be on the safe side

>Again, what "super-queer"?  I'm pushing hard on this point (oo-err!),
>but I would say that there is no "super-queer", at least, not in a way
>that could be relevant to anyone else.

Yodels, puts hand up furry glove-puppet, and *GOOSE*s Colin (OK, I know
this ain't a canonical Zen thing to do, bu (*WHAP*s himself on the head)

>|> As an alternative one might suggest:
>|>  If you meet a Queer on the road, fuck em!
>Ah, Albert.  You have reached enlightenment.

Does the Buddha have Queer-Nature?
*WHAP*

>* I don't entirely believe this sentence (that's the one with the
>asterix at the end of it), as I'm not too sure of what "progress" is.

No, dear: Asterix is Goscinny and Uderzo's cute little Gaul.
The '*' glyph is an asterisk.
"Progress" is the hedge at the bottom of the garden.
*WHAP*

>It probably comes of being rather more a Taoist than a Buddhist.  We
>are just here, then we die.  The fundamental "force" of the universe
>does nothing, couldn't care, and doesn't notice our passing.  What
>point is there in progress?

<clank> and all the diodes in my left side hurt, too.  [Wanders away
humming bits of Pink Floyd]

*WHAP*

				Kay
-- 
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37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
From: PJS137@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Change is GOOD!!!
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:26:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92283.172624PJS137
Organization: Penn State University

Who's says that three is a crowd?  However it was probably never had the
opportunity to really enjoy the experience.  I feel that three way interaction
is the ONLY way to go.  What do you think???????

Patrick.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (The_Devine_Dolly)
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Organization: Rational
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:17:54 GMT

idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:

>Yodels, puts hand up furry glove-puppet, and *GOOSE*s Colin (OK, I know

PERV!  How could you fist a puppet.

Iseult
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: out (on the net)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:48:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.1bi13lINN4fq
Distribution: world
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct14.190430.21531@newsgate.sps.mot.com> gpb@gpb-mac. (greg berryman ) writes:
->Well, there I was, trying to decide if I should come out ( at least on the
->net).  I even added the triangle and Bear codes to the .Sig to see how 
->they looked.

Wow! That's more than I've ever done with my sigs ... 

->So, here I am.  This group has been one of the most frendly places on the
->net, so I think I really belong here.  << e-hugs >> to all.

Coolness! 
*snuggle* *hug* *cuddle* *lick* *slurp* *other-indecent-stuff* 
Great to have you here, Greg! <intentional word choice? Of course not>

->gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com  ____     B0 f-- t g- k+ s m h- r p 
                                                ^^

Ooh, a pervert after my own heart.

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport        rsr@soda.berkeley.edu        bi-request@ocf.berkeley.edu
             Sick and perverted? Me? Why, _Thank you_! 
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: vashti@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Vashti Galpin)
Subject: Re: Change is GOOD!!!
Organization: Even less than before 
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:16:36 GMT

In <1b7bi6INNmuo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau) writes:
>	As for three-way interaction being the only way to go,
>it is certainly better than no interaction at all.  But it was ackward
>enough, for me, trying two-way interaction....I would probably be
>OVER-WHELMED at first, but I'll never know untill I try.  And I'm
>always willing to try anything.

Does this have anything to do with trisexuality?

Vashti
(Ok, so I just woke up) 
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Department of Computer Science, University of the Witwatersrand
2050 Wits, South Africa.  Tel 27(11)716-3295 Fax 27(11)403-1926
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: grinch@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Dave Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Teensy Weensy Virginities
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:12:37 GMT

latarra@camelot.bradley.edu (Lisa Ehren) writes:
[distinguishing between male and female]

I s'pose if you distinguish between male and female, you have *four* ways to
lose your virgingity (or give it away, as Roy prefers 8-) through oral sex.
Of course, it's still kind of difficult for a man to be anal passive with a
female partner, so I guess I *was* distinguishing for that one...

Dave                        
-- 
 D.C.X. Ferguson            ____  ____  ____   "It is not difference which 
 grinch@micor.ocunix.on.ca  \  /  \  /  \  /  immobilizes us, but silence. 
                             \/    \/    \/  And there are so many silences
 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada                    to be broken." -Audre Lorde
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: National Coming Out Day - A Promise to Myself
Date: 13 Oct 1992 20:28:50 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1bbh34INN11v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> rlebeau@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert Charles Lebeau) writes:

->to do it before the concert or the next day).  I'm pretty sure that
->this friend is going to understand and be fairly supportive.  We have
->had several conversations in the past about homosexuality and
->bisexuality and I know that he is not homophopic.  But my biggest
->fear is that he might start treating me differently and feel ackward
->around me, or that the reason I'm telling him is because I'm attracted
->to him.  Any words of advice from anyone who has handled any of those
->problems before would be welcome.  

Well, advice is worth what you pay for it ... but I'll tell you my
experience.

At the time I realized I was bi, I had about oh, maybe 4-5 _VERY_ close
friends ... I really really wanted to tell them.  Intelectually (sp?) I knew
nothing would change ... that didn't stop me from going '*gulp*' whenever I
thought of it ... I finally did it, in a short email letter that I sent
them, and I was trembling in my boots ... they took it in stride, and at
least _I_ don't see any difference in our relationship.

Actually, that's not exactly true.  There is a difference.  Firstly, I've
started sharing with them more, and generally speaking, our relationship has
deepened.  Also, we've started flirting ... but that's my choice :) ...

"Just do it" is a lousy advice, considering how little I know.  But you
might want to consider it.

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport          rsr@soda.berkeley.edu            bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
#include <stdio.h>
float kinsey(){int c=random()%601;return (c/100.0);}
main(){srandom(time(0));printf("And now I'm %.2f\n",kinsey());}
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: triangles in bed (was Re: My first Triangle0
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:02:37
Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
Distribution: world
	<1992Oct6.174026.4597@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: lorico@boomboom.Eng.Sun.COM's message of 7 Oct 1992 17:06:06 GMT


In article <1av5duINN5u9@smaug.West.Sun.COM> lorico@boomboom.Eng.Sun.COM (Lori Cotton) writes:
> And to answer someone's post (forget who it was so 1,000 apologies and hugs
> to you) regarding being part of a triangle in bed.  This is something I don't
> enjoy because 1) someone is always left out, 2) jealousy by the one left
> out is always a factor

1) In the triangles I have been in, it is not the case that someone is
always left out.  I opted out once, because I was very tired, but
neither I nor anyone else was *left* out.  2) Even if I was left out, I
would not be jealous, I would simply talk to the people later and try to
figure out how to avoid it in the future.  I would hope that my partners
would be the same.

I'm not saying you or anyone else should do this, but just because it
doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work at all.

I must say, though, that we rarely end up in triangular formation...
maybe we should try it...*grin*...

Muffy
--

Muffy Barkocy                               muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
~Little round planet/in a big universe/sometimes it looks blessed/
 sometimes it looks cursed/Depends on what you look at, obviously/
 But even more it depends on the way that you see~ - Bruce Cockburn
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: noid@nick.csh.rit.edu (ky the art fag!!)
Subject: Re: being "in love"
Organization: Computer Science House @ RIT
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:22:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.140329.12145@bcrka451.bnr.ca> bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth) writes:
>
>heather e blair writes:
>> A friend of mine (bi female with a girlfriend) just came out to her 
>> mother, and her ma is in the "denial" phase: "you're too young to know
>> [your sexual orientation]", "can't you [and your lover] say you're
>> just friends", "why does sexuality have to enter into it?".
>
>Diane's (my SO) mom had (IMHO) a very unexpected reaction.  She said, 
>"Well, at least you're not lesbian, I would hate for you to limit your
>possibilities."  Definitely not a reaction that we expected... :)
>(Please, no flames about the above quote... I didn't say it.)
>

i have the same problem.  i told my mom about a year ago that i was transsexual.
	she is in deep denial.  i know i should have approached her again
	long before now but it's like telling her for the first time all
	over again,  and that took more courage than i thought i had,  and
	i think it drained all that i had on this subject for good.... :(
ANY advice on how to handle the situation would be much appreciated.


-simply noid
From: kdc5072@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.D. Colagio)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexual tricks?
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:27:33 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: kdc5072@ultb

In article <MUFFY.92Oct14100038@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
->
->For my birthday, my SO gave me (among other things) a book called
->"TR!CKS" subtitled "More Than 125 Ways To Make Good Sex Better" by Jay
->Wiseman. 
->
->On the whole, a good book, and I would recommend it if you are
->interested in such things.  I have done (quite successfully) 10-20% of
->the things in it; most of the rest sound like fun...*smile*.
->
->But, why am I posting here?  Well, at the beginning he says:
->
->  I decided to, for the most part, leave out material regrading SM,
->  bisexuality, swinging, tantra, multiple-partner sex, and so forth.
->  Those are specialized areas, and their practices and customs are far
->  too extensive to describe properly in this book.  I included contact
->  information regarding them if you're interested in exploring them
->  further.
->

Looks like he put that in so that the "straight" community wouln't think
that _they_ were doing the same things that those /nasty/ deviants were
doing...

Or he could be saying that he does the things that those deviants do...

Or he is totally clueless...which wouldn't be anything new...

.....

Well, we're waiting for some examples of what are in there.....

*hugs*

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From: nsn@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas)
Subject: Re: My first Triangle
Keywords: Pool cue, statuette thrown out window, bestiality, pizza
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:52:25 GMT

rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>nsn@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas) writes:

>->threesomed a pizza
>Ooh, tell us more! Were you in the middle? Was the pizza? Did you two ... 
>*blush* 
>eat it?

Ah, welawey, Roy, old bean (and Mike-adulator) (Mike a god?! Sorry, I'll
have to run him over too :) --- but you have been anticipated. It is not
for naught that we decided the pizza, being "la pizza", was definitely
femme...

I, of course, am ALWAYS in the middle. Well actually...

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F-|F-|F-|F-|F-|F-|F-|  <-- seats

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(Dream cam)
       (^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
      /(  {   }{JOE}{   } <- pillows  )
   O   (   ==============             )
  /T\  (   \lllllllllllll\  <- bed    )
   |   (uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu)
   /\  <- Joe                 and in Joe's dreams, Joe's in the middle...

mwahahahahaha :)

>*grin* Sorry, Nick ... you were asking for it :).

And you know what *you*'re asking for, Roy darlingchen, dontcha? *leer*

...Oh and if you do, kindly tell me so as I can find out too :)

PS. I just realised... that wasn't triple tits on Iseult! Them's was
*biceps*! Hehehee. Somehow, I prefer the triple tits :)

---				
Nick Nicholas: [s]h[r]ug-osexual.  Greek, short, greasy, romantic, and as
B1 f+ t- w s-? e- r-- dr+(+)	   bi as he wants to be. [ObPink&Blues]
nsn@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au (IRC: nicxjo).  Likes Cavafy, Mahler, and cashews.
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