HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Torch Song Trilogy on TV last night
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:21:48 GMT

In <15SEP92.15405727@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:

[...stuff deleted...]

>     The Rev. Donald Wildmon and the American Family Association
>     have gone "high tech."  Recently, a Wildmon letter appeared on
>     USENET, a computer news network, warning subscribers about the
>     TALK.BIZARRE "newsgroup."  He claims TALK.BIZARRE "is on a 
>     mission to sell our youth the value of drugs, violence, sex,
>     and hedonism."  Wildmon has urged subscribers to boycott 
>     computer networks that carry TALK.BIZARRE.  Of course, the Tupelo,
>     MS minister also asked for prayers and money."

>Sim, wondering why he hasn't gone after anything more obvious.

Perhaps because he spelled motss "hoe--moe--sexual"?  

Trying to communicate Suthun' enunciation via printed/displayed media
is sooooo difficult.  I may speak with a "twang", but trying to show
it here ain't easy......


>       Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu
>"It's always Beach Party Barbie, or Malibu Barbie....  That shit does not
>prepare you for the true horror of a real woman's life.  Where is Single,
>Abused, Trailer-Park Barbie?"             - Roseanne Arnold


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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Publicity
Date: 8 Sep 1992 12:37:33 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <72136@apple.Apple.COM> 
mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) signs off 
an article thus:

> Guess who?

Not too difficult.  You're the nudnik.

Arne
From: larsm@ifi.uio.no (Lars Markhus)
Subject: Request info on GLB filmfestivals.
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:08:01 GMT
Originator: larsm@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no



If someone out there in soc.motss-land has the program (films shown) 
at the:

  i) Toronto, Canada, GLB filmfestival

 ii) Torino, Italy?, GLB filmfestival

and/or

iii) Sundance filmfestival (especially the GLB films shown)

please email me this information.


LarsM on behalf of The Oslo GLB-filmfestival organizers.
-- 
Lars Markhus -- larsm@ifi.uio.no (Student)
Institute of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
From: jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk (Richard Kennaway)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: World's First Known Bottom Found in Alps
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:14:46 GMT
Originator: jrk@sperwer.cwi.nl

In <65586@cup.portal.com>, Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:

>Unfortunately, the whole thing is a hoax; the Austrian newspaper
>that originally reported this has admitted that the whole thing
>was made up (at least about Otzi having cum up his bum).

>We recieved a faxed warning about this story at work yesterday,
>from the source that originally distributed it.

So was the original story a hoax, or is this a cover-up?

--
Richard Kennaway     SYS, University of East Anglia, Norwich NR4 7TJ, U.K.
Internet:  jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk               uucp:  ...mcsun!ukc!uea-sys!jrk
From: markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Publicity
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:34:53 GMT
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <72209@apple.Apple.COM> mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
an ego-booster and justification of his existence.
>             You should be thanking Mr. Sarver and me.

There you have it!  The entire reason for soc.motss' existence.  Please,
please don't go away, I do so much like this newsgroup, and, as you
state, it would go away (collapse through anarchy at least) if you
weren't here.

What a wonderfully *butch* thing to do.  Saving the rest of us from
ourselves and our nelly-worship.  How utterly *republican* of you.

Heaven forbid that you start a thread which is of interest to you that
isn't a sounding board for your brand of gay/lesbian bashing.  If you
want something in this life, get off your ass and go and get it!
Whining about a cabal isn't going to get things done.  You have a mind,
use it!  Learn how to reach out to some of the ~70,000 people who
don't post here right now.  *You* could be the catalyst who brings
them into the forum.  

I periodically post (regionally only) looking for people who are
into rock climbing and rather serious mountaineering as well as
competetive soccer, bicycle racing, and whitewater kayaking.  I
don't begin with a plea for "straight acting" non-nelly queers.
I am interested in meeting people who do these activities and
couldn't care less if they are butch or not.  If someone wants
to run a class 3 rapid in a squirt boat in drag, I say alright!

Oh yeah, as long as we are near the subject, anyone else in the Portland
area have tickets to the symphony?  I have A & B series tickets as
well as tickets to the gala, James Gallway and Yo-Yo Ma.  Let me
know if you want to get together before or after a concert.  I think
I can swing a free ticket to Galway, but he isn't until March.

You see, it's all so easy.  I haven't gone out of my way to insult
whole categories of people nor have I hidden who I am.  There is a 
reasonable chance that some people will connect with what I am
interested in and possibly post or possibly email about it.

We are not a cabal or an inbred family.  We are a community that
just happens to try to stick up for all of our diversity, trying hard
to make this a safe space for all.  We want no closed closet doors
here, not even yours.  However, we will fight you tooth and nail
should you try to close the door on others.

--mark
--
Mark Morrissey           One Hatred to rule them all.  One Hatred to find them.
markm@cse.ogi.edu        One Hatred to bring them all and in the darkness bind
                         them.  In the land of Bigotry where the Shadows lie.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: 1-700-A-GAY-MAN
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:14:47 GMT

jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) wrote: 
->Thinking quickly, I asked if 242-9626 (which spells AGAYMAN) was taken.
->Turns out that it is!  They started issuing the numbers in mid-June, so
->whoever it has it acted fast.  I wonder who it is.

well, you could call and find out ...

this is an opportunity of dubious value: in order for this number to
work it has to be dialed via AT&T (if you use SPRINT or MCI you have
to dial 10288 before the number ... )

it's even worse with 800 numbers: all the good ones are definitely
taken, and the rules (at least through the end of this year) don't
permit easy choice of an appropriate number (the numbers determine
which companies will provide you service).

my 800 number is only easy to remember because it contains the first
four digits of my current phone number ... *sigh*

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: Orson Scott Card
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:20:21 GMT

Maybe someone should write an article about it using snippets as allowed
by the copyright laws. After all its copyrighted not licensed like
software....

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky)
Subject: Re: 277-4653
Followup-To: soc.motss
Summary: zwickiana
Organization: earnestly practicing faggots
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:34:28 GMT

yes, 276-7487, as roger phillips observes.

jack hamilton seems to remember a lot of miscellaneous zwickiana,
including my pseudonyms.  alexander adams, or alex adams, is the name
i use whenever it's important that i have a recognizable name but not
important that i use my real name - in making reservations, for
instance.  no one ever gets it wrong, while what people make of
"arnold zwicky" is not to be believed.

i used to have a sort of extra life as alex adams, who was wilder
than arnold zwicky.  now i don't think there's much difference
between us.  but i'll still answer to "alex".

arnold (assuming that others have taken 626-7477 already)

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@lib403.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Kids in the Hall on CBS
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:35:16 GMT

rhb@ucs.usl.edu (Bird Rendell H.) writes:


>I accidentally left the article at home, but the current
>TV Guide mentions the fact that CBS has picked up The Kids
>in the Hall. TVG says it will be playing late at night (or
>early in the morning -- according to how you think of time).
>I don't remember if it is supposed to play every night, or
>just one night a week. Sorry. I'm 28 and addlepated.
They'll be on FRIDAY NIGHTS at 11:30pm, moving to 12:30am later in the season.
-- 
RON BUCKMIRE
The Lyrics Transcription Project: Cocteau Twins Division, section 319
11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Larry Kramer in Vanity Fair
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:21:23 GMT

> rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams) writes:
>
>Check out the splendid piece about Larry Kramer in October's
>issue of Vanity Fair.  It's timed to coincide with the
>opening, at the Public Theatre in New York, of his new play,
>"The Destiny of Me," a sequel to "The Normal Heart."

Speaking of Kramer and Vanity Fair, I'm tempted to ask Cl*yt*n
Cr*m*r to explain the significance of all those photos, by
Steven Meisel, of a barely-recognizable Madonna, made up and
(un-)dressed to appear like a pneumatic, but definitely
underage, Lolita-esque nymphet...
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Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: jns@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Subject: sunglasses and hats
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyle, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:57:22 GMT

Lee Thompson-Herbert (lee@soda.berkeley.edu) counters:
 
> > lile@netcom.com (Lile Elam) writes:
> >
> >I feel that when others wear sun glasses, they are trying to
> >hide from me, the world, and life.
> 
> And some of us are just hiding from the *sun*, which is an evil thing
> to those of us who's ancestors are from the far North.  Cataracts aren't
> my idea of fun.
> 
> >I'd much prefer to see someone waring a hat.

Okay, so are there any other closet sun-sneezers
out there?  Aside from bright sunlight hurting my
eyes, the constant bouts of sneezing I find
unnerving.

What about both?  I have a hard time doing without
the sunglasses, and I certainly like hats as well.

No fear--if it's you I'm observing from behind my
glasses and I like what I see, I'll make sure you
know; hiding is not my intention.  Give me a sign,
and I'll gladly take them off so you can tell.

--jns
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: A Resolution Regarding Discrimination and Bank of America
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:08:22 GMT

In article <262133@peregrine.peregrine.com> trey@peregrine (Trey Chapman) writes:
>We opened our account at Wells Fargo Bank on Monday 8-31, and as soon as we
>get our new ATM cards the BofA account will be closed. 
>We called the bank and let them know that we were not pleased with their
>change of decision, and they said that they would get back with us. This was
>on Thursday. After thw weekend I figured that they had had long enough to
>look at their policy and to respond to us. I think that it is 
>time we all took a firm stand on this issue. I know that for us it was only
>how soon can we get the account moved.

Is Wells Fargo only in CA? Once I get enough income that I can actually
save some I would like to get a savings account there, but I don't know
if its practical since I've never seen a Wells Fargo bank here.

Does anyone have lists of which new england banks donate or don't donate
to BSA?
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From: lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Possible good news from Andrew
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:12:23 GMT
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <15SEP92.15252742@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
}        Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu
} "It's always Beach Party Barbie, or Malibu Barbie....  That shit does not
} prepare you for the true horror of a real woman's life.  Where is Single,
} Abused, Trailer-Park Barbie?"             - Roseanne Arnold

That is funny!!!  Mattel, whaddaya say?

Donald

"I was looking down.  Staring at the ground.
 You're the flower between the cracks that I found"
                                      Lady Kier of Deee-lite
From: ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: World's First Known Bottom Found in Alps
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 92 02:26:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

> "The tight-assed Tyrolean scholars were very uncomfortable even having
> to acknowledge it," _Lambda_ said, "but Otzi is the first known homosexual
> man that enjoyed being fucked. ...Otzi was the passive partner--of this
> there is absolutely no doubt...The sperm has been carbon-dated."

How did they determine that he enjoyed it?

> Aged 25-35, Otzi was probably a herdsman from a nearby valley settlement.
                                  ^^^^^^^^
Have they verified that it was human sperm?  Perhaps the assumption that
he was gay is premature...

--Tim Smith
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Torch Song Trilogy on TV last night
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:40:57 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) wrote:
>Joan Kroc.  She was a co-founder, with Norman Lear, of People
>for the American Way, 

In a newsletter form People for the American Way I got a few weeks ago, I
found the following:  (replrinted without permission - read at own risk)

     The Rev. Donald Wildmon and the American Family Association
     have gone "high tech."  Recently, a Wildmon letter appeared on
     USENET, a computer news network, warning subscribers about the
     TALK.BIZARRE "newsgroup."  He claims TALK.BIZARRE "is on a 
     mission to sell our youth the value of drugs, violence, sex,
     and hedonism."  Wildmon has urged subscribers to boycott 
     computer networks that carry TALK.BIZARRE.  Of course, the Tupelo,
     MS minister also asked for prayers and money."

Sim, wondering why he hasn't gone after anything more obvious.

       Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu
"It's always Beach Party Barbie, or Malibu Barbie....  That shit does not
prepare you for the true horror of a real woman's life.  Where is Single,
Abused, Trailer-Park Barbie?"             - Roseanne Arnold
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: 1-700-A-GAY-MAN
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 01:49:42 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

AT&T has a new service which they call EasyAccess.  When you sign up for
it, you are assigned a number in the 700 area code which you can keep for
life.  It's like call forwarding, but it's not assigned to a particular
phone number; you can change it to wherever you happen to be at the moment.

I was talking to AT&T today about something else, and asked for more inform
information on EasyAccess.  For an additional one-time fee, you can get
whatever number you want, provided that it's not already taken.  The salesr
salesrep asked if I had any particular number in mind if I got the service.

Thinking quickly, I asked if 242-9626 (which spells AGAYMAN) was taken.
Turns out that it is!  They started issuing the numbers in mid-June, so
whoever it has it acted fast.  I wonder who it is.

Someone in San Francisco used to have MAN-LOVE.  Unfortunately, the letter
Q isn't on the dial, so I can't get A-QUEER-1.  I could see if BIG-COCK is
taken (it generally is, quickly), but I haven't gotten big cock anywhere
else lately; why should I think I'd get it from the phone company? 

Arnold, if he's feeling perverse, might want to ask for 277-4653.  Any
other ideas?

-- 

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From: klotz@lclark.edu (Gretchen Klotz)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: do you see this?
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:45:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Sep5.214525.6148
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <92249.120329IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
(Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes: 

>papadums, by the way, are an indian bread, flat, with spices
>in the batter, deepfried and very crunchy.  they are one of
>katy's favorite foods...

Now I'm hungry!  Next stop, lunch.

>i
>mean, i can remember MY mom buying ME schoolclothes, so if
>*I* am buying schoolclothes, i must be a grownup now, right?

Never!

>i'm also considering moving to oregon.  i wonder if katy will
>like it there...

My-my-my, a public declaration of consideration!  

Yes, of course Katy will *love* it here!  Have I bragged about all the 5
year olds I know?  ;-)

Off to see if I have any papadums lying around (with lots of hungry lip
smacking noises)...

BB,

- Gretchen
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From: jns@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Publicity
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:56:44 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyle, Inc.
Originator: jns@rac2.wam.umd.edu


 
mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
    >>>> There is _no_ cabal.  
ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
   >>> Pay no attention to the people behind the curtain.
brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies) writes:
  >> There is _no_ curtain.
mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
 > If there's no curtain, where will we hide the pods?

There are _no_ pods.

--jns
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies)
Subject: Re: *Welcome* to Cabal Talk
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:53:30 GMT

mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:

>PMS-Envy is such a sorry thing in a queen of advancing years.  

You're the one with PMS, UNdarling: "Poor-Me Syndrome".  Why don't you go
away somewhere and grow up?

--Brent
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Quayle on Homosexuality
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:34:37 GMT

In article <michaelh.716585820@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane) writes:

>for the macintosh users, someone at apple put together a funny
>quicktime movie of a bunch of these. actually *seeing* the footage of
>dan quayle saying these things adds quite a bit to the absurdity...

Quite a bit??  It adds everything!  Most of the Krazy Kwayle Kwotes
I'd heard before seeing this movie came across rather flat and dull on
paper -- those I could believe he'd said, that is.  Now I can believe
it (but I'm still having a hard time believing that the "Hawaii is an
island" routine wasn't dreamed up by some crazy SNL staffer).

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky)
Subject: interesting days on the political front
Followup-To: soc.motss
Summary: out with our local candidates
Organization: earnestly practicing faggots
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:03:21 GMT

last night, jacques and i went off for an evening with Candidates at
columbus's stonewall union: first, candidates for the stonewall board
gave little presentations, and then we voted; then for 15 or 20
minutes people mingled and talked, and candidates for political
positions (in the county, state, or federal governments) began to move
among us, working the room; then *thirty- seven* of these candidates
gave their little presentations, and the community got to ask just one
question of each of them.

as j said to me afterwards, well, i can't say i *enjoyed* this (we
were both blasted with exhaustion after three hours), but it certainly
was interesting.  (last year there were only fourteen or so
candidates, and jacques went off *shopping* while i listened to the
candidates and was just *fascinated*.  so this year he did his service
of listening too.)

(i should tell you that since he went on disability retirement
a dozen years ago j has been mostly spending his time doing dog-work
for political candidates.  plus some other volunteer work.  but
right now he's working for john glenn - ok, not perfect, but an
angel compared to his appalling opponent, and besides j likes to
talk to annie glenn - and for richard cordray, who's running for
u.s. congress [house of representatives, our lower house, for
non-u.s. readers] and who has great attitudes.)

so we heard all these people.  some of them made emotional appeals.
some of them did their standard political shtick, not attending to
this particular audience.  one of them made a fantastic
clear-out-your-head pro-gay *rant*.  a fair number of people who never
came before came this time; most of these were a loss, but it was
fascinating that they thought they should come at all.  some people
said they wanted stonewall's endorsement, but wouldn't use it in their
literature ("my district is too conservative").  some people wore red
ribbons, and on half of them it seemed natural, while on the other
half you figured these ribbons would come off as soon as they left the
meeting room.  some were bold.

j's candidate cordray came off very well, and cordray's opponent (a
woman, but anti-abortion, republican, "considering the issues" rather
than taking a position, and rather nasty about cordray's youth) did
not.

about half the candidates were women, and most of *them* were at least
interesting...

glad to have done this, we were.

arnold


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris)
Subject: Re: Torch Song Trilogy on TV last night
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:44:19 GMT

mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>In <15SEP92.15405727@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes [about
The Rev. Donald Wildmon and the American Family Association
warning USENET subscribers about the TALK.BIZARRE "newsgroup."]
>>Sim, wondering why he hasn't gone after anything more obvious.
>Perhaps because he spelled motss "hoe--moe--sexual"?  

Here in Alabama, it's  "homaSEX'shul".

>Trying to communicate Suthun' enunciation via printed/displayed media
>is sooooo difficult.  I may speak with a "twang", but trying to show
>it here ain't easy......

It jus takes a lil' praktus.

-jeff