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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Opinions of the NEC CDR-73 please.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:28:50 GMT

oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>	I've seen in the Sept issue of MacUser and ad for the NEC CDR-73,
>it was advertised at $399 by Tiger software (+ $79 for the interface card).
>I remember this dirve was the best cd-rom drive over the market till NEC
>introducet the CDR 83M (or whatever). It has an access time of 300 ms and
>a data flow of 150kb/sec. Is there a trap somewhere ?, i know that Tiger
>software has a rather good reputation, but who knows ?; the price is too
>good to be true (i've seen the same drive advertised at a much higher price
>by several other mail order places). So do you think i should go with it ?, 
>any reports about the drive will be appreciated.
*----
When I bought my CDR-73 last year, Tiger had a similar deal on the CDR-72.
They seem to be a few months ahead of other discounters.  There's no
catch - it's a real bargain if you want last year's model.

NEC currently has an upgrade program.  For $ 150, they will upgrade a
CDR-73 to CDR-73M, which has the same specs as the CDR-74 (but not the
dual dust door, only a single one.  Who cares?  Dust enters on the
caddy, not through the door).  So the $ 399 price for a CDR-73 is
very cheap.

I would recommend a more powerful SCSI adapter, like the Adaptec 1542B,
if you plan any expansion beyond CD-ROM in the next year or two.  But
the Trantor/NEC SCSI products are well supported.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bruner@sp15.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Bruner)
Subject: PB 100 discontinued or redistributed?
Organization: CSRD, University of Illinois
Distribution: na
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:48:06

I am only able to read MacWEEK sporadically.  The last I had read,
Apple was officially dropping the Powerbook 100 from its regular
distribution channels and selling it via the Price Club.  More
recently, however, I've seen a lot of references by people to Apple
discontinuing this model entirely.

Has Apple officially announced that the PB 100 is discontinued and
they are selling off the existing stock, or are people concluding that
this is true even though Apple hasn't said so?  (It sounds plausible;
I just want to know if it is official yet.)
--
(Dr.) John Bruner, Deputy Director			bruner@csrd.uiuc.edu
Center for Supercomputing Research & Development	(217) 244-4476 (voice)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign		(217) 244-1351 (FAX)
465 CSRL, MC-264; 1308 West Main St.; Urbana, IL  61801-2307
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Re: Mac Fax-modem
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:22:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Organization: The University at Buffalo
Originator: triantos@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu

In article <1992Aug28.152213.2824@donau.et.tudelft.nl> sietze@tardis.et.tudelft.nl (Sietze Schukking) writes:

>So what i am looking for is a 9600 fax-modem with send and receive
>capabilities.  Further i need a decent MAC program to operate the fax-modem,
>i also want to be able to configure it as a network server and i want to be
>able to use it with other programs, that is, i want a printerdriver for the
>fax-modem so i can print to it from other programs.

>So my questions are:

>  -Do you always need a specific combination of fax-modem of brand X and
>   fax-program of the same brand X, or is there some standard?
>  -Do you know a reliable fax-modem with send and receive capabilities?
>  -Do you know a decent MAC program to operate it as above explained?

Well, I recently bought a Zoom 14,400 Fax/Modem, which came with software
called QuickLink II Fax by Smith Micro Software.  The software has a FAX Print
chooser device, works in the background, and might even be able to work from a
server, although I can't verify that.  The software does have two problems,
though:

1.  The cover pages look ugly, and

2.  There's a big bug in the FAX Print chooser device that causes many graphics
packages, such as Photoshop, Canvas, and the BBEdit text editor, to bomb with a
bus error.  I contacted Smith Micro and they said they will be working on a
solution for this problem ASAP.

Best of all, the modem only cost me US $325, which isn't bad for 14,400 data
and FAX send/receive, with v.42, v.32, and v.32bis, plus MNP level 5 error
correction.

Hope this helps!

-Nick

--
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                 AOL:      Triantos
"Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of
120 ft/sec, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter." - Dave Barry


-------------------------------------------------------

OK thank you all and greetings

Sietze

-- 
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Delft University of Technology              phone(home): (0)15 625016
Department of Electrical Engineering        fax:         (0)15 784898
Section Computer Architecture               email: sietze@tardis.et.tudelft.nl
    and Digital Technique
P.O. Box 3051        2600 GA Delft          The Netherlands
From: benkei@cs.utexas.edu (William Kent Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook screen life
Date: 1 Sep 1992 02:30:00 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

>In article <1992Aug28.230133.28553@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf) writes:

>>From what I have heard ...  The screen can last indefinitely, but the
>>backlight might burn out after about two years...

How difficult/expensive is it to replace the backlight?
-- 

Kent Richards                         "Practice random acts of kindness
benkei@cs.utexas.edu                   and senseless beauty"
From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Quadra Monitor info needed!!!
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:28:17 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <118440008@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com>, scole@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Scott
Cole) wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anyone have info on non-Apple monitors for the Quadras.

I just got the E-Machines T16-II and love it to death.   16" but with
mulitiple resolutions.  Cool.

--
Rick Eames                               My Opinions Are My Own (not
Apple's)
athos@apple.com

HERSCHENSOHN for US Senate.  Just say "No" to Barbara Boxer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis)
Subject: Re: Opinions of the NEC CDR-73 please.
Organization: Datascope Corp.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:34:55 GMT

In article <39128@imag.imag.fr> oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>
>	Bonjour, everyone.
>	I've seen in the Sept issue of MacUser and ad for the NEC CDR-73,
>it was advertised at $399 by Tiger software (+ $79 for the interface card).
>I remember this dirve was the best cd-rom drive over the market till NEC
>introducet the CDR 83M (or whatever). It has an access time of 300 ms and
>a data flow of 150kb/sec. Is there a trap somewhere ?, i know that Tiger
>software has a rather good reputation, but who knows ?; the price is too
>good to be true (i've seen the same drive advertised at a much higher price
>by several other mail order places). So do you think i should go with it ?, 
>any reports about the drive will be appreciated.
>

Don't get the plain CDR-73, get the 73M or 74. The plain 73 is not
"multi-media" capable. The upgrade from the 73 to the 73M is
about $150 (I don't remember for  sure, call NEC and ask).

---Jay Davis
From: croson@husc15.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LaCie won't spin, but blinks at me
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:11:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc15.1992Sep3.181108.15344
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I'm beating my head on the desk about this hard disk problem.  The drive in
question is a LaCie 70MB External.  It was hooked up to an SE running System
6.0.8 with no problems; I wanted to upgrade to System 7.0.1.  No problem, says
I; hook the external drive up to my IIcx; install 7.0.1 from HD floppies using
the IIcx superdrive; hook back up to the SE.

Well, somewhere in the hooking and the unhooking, one of the little metal
things on the SCSI interface on the drive came loose, and the receiving jack
would push in slightly when I tried to plug the cable back in.  No problem,
says I; open the case, rescrew the washer on until it's nice and snug, close
the case, reboot, and...

Absolutely nothing.  The fan starts up, but the drive doesn't spin at all. 
When I open up the case again, the little red light on the drive is flashing
slowly and steadily but no action is taking place at all.  When I ran
SilverLining, SL occasionally recognized a "SCSI device" but wouldn't tell me
anything about it.

Big problem, says I.

Ok, net.scsi.wizards, what did I do?  Will my drive need professional help? 
Will *I* need professional help?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated; I'll try anything...

Dave Croson
dcroson@hbs.harvard.edu

One bright gleam in all this; I backed up 10 minutes before doing the
installation, so at least I didn't lost any data...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: PB100 at Price Club in Bay area
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:54:46 GMT

Whole Earth Access in Berkeley has been selling PB100 2/20s for $650.
A floppy is $150, a 2 Meg upgrade is $125.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: newhaven@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Sword)
Subject: SE/30 won't format floppies
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 07:11:52 GMT

I was checking out my SE/30 in preparation for selling it when I realized that
it wouldn't format/erase any floppies!  I knew it was sensitive to bad sectors,
but this is ridiculous!  It reads and writes fine, but when it gets to the
"Creating Directory" part of an erase or initialize, it says "Initialization
Failed!" and pops out my floppy.

I've heard that this could be a logic board problem (say it isn't so!)  Could
anyone offer advice as to what the problem could be and estimated cost for
repair?

adTHANKSvance

Sword
-- 
"Practicality may be boring, but rarely is it unnecessary."
					-myself
From: jmpiazza@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Joseph M. Piazza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Connecting serial impact printer
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:55:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: jmpiazza@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU


	I have a friend who wants to connect a C. Itoh dot matrix serial
impact printer model 8510A to a PowerBook 140.  I know of two commerical
products that would acomplish this, one is the Grappler and the other isn't.
Anybody know what the other one is?  I also assume that this same setup would
be good for a BJ10e should he care to upgrade in that direction in the
future.  Any comments or additions welcome.  Please respond via e-mail.

Thanks,

	joe piazza

--- "Where's my other sock?"  A. Einstein

CS Dept. SUNY at Buffalo 14260
jmpiazza@cs.Buffalo.edu		jmpiazza@sunybcs.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Speeding up my LC whats the best way?
From: stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger)
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:22:28 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

micah@milton.u.washington.edu (Micah Anderson) writes:
> I want to know what the best way to speed up my LC... I am about to 
> (tomorrow) install 8 more megs of RAM (10 total) and 512kVRAM (what this is
> for eludes me...) but what should I get (cheaply) that can speed this hummer
> up? A math coprocessor?

An FPU probably won't speed things up at all, unless you're into
lots of heavy-duty mathematical calculation, and the software you
use takes advantage of it. It certainly won't speed up screen
display or your word processor, for example. 

The only real way to speed up your LC in any meaningful way would
be to buy an accelerator board (what do you consider "cheap"?).
Me, I'm going all out and buying a 50MHz PowerCache 030
accelerator (Daystar Digital) -- you can get one from ~$1500
upwards, depending on who you talk to. The PowerCache also comes
in 33MHz and 40MHz versions, which are (naturally) cheaper. Check
out the ads in Macworld or MacUser.

Now, can anyone give me a good price for asbestos wallpaper? :)

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nigel Stanger,                  Internet: stanger@otago.ac.nz
University of Otago,            Phone: +64 3 479-8179
Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.           Fax:   +64 3 479-8311
"Hey, royal ugly dudes!" -- Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
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From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: 2 MB SIMMs?
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:53:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <1992Aug26.211824.27624@sura.net> wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:
>When I tried to order 2 MB SIMMs from my friendly neighborhood
>computer dealer, he told me that there was no such thing as 2 MB SIMMs
>for the Mac, that they were actually 2 1 MB SIMMs packaged together in
>what was cleverly called a 2 MB SIMM Kit.  However, being almost
>positive that there *are* 2 MB SIMMs out there for the Mac - based on
>the number of posts, ads, etc. I've seen - I was understandably
>confused.  Is he correct, or is the man a totally Spamless liar and I
>should take my business elsewhere and buy my 2 MB SIMMs?

The man is a totally Spamless liar.  2MB SIMMs have been available for some
time now and cost about $55 each.  Or you can look in any back issues of
MacWorld, MacWeek, MacUser, etc. for ads for mail-order houses.  They usually
have them and they can get it to you by overnight delivery.

Personally, my recommendation is to skip the 2MB SIMMs and go for 4MB SIMMs.
The Chip Merchant has them for $86 each, according to their latest ad.  Sorry,
I don't have the phone number available.

h.

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From: tmcg@blueline.Corp.Sun.COM (Tom McGinn - 65507)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,sun.mac-users
Subject: Maximum memory in a IIsi?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:33:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: blueline.corp.sun.com
Keywords: IIsi, memory

I am confused. 

Can someone explain what the true limit on the amount of memory that
the IIsi can use?  I have seen some adverts listing 8Mb chips for
the IIsi, for a total of 33Mb, and others listing 16Mb chips for
a total of 65Mb.

MacWorld says something about the limit being 17Mb, as does the Apple
manual.

Can the IIsi make use of the 8 and 16Mb SIMMS?  Or does System 7.0 
restrict the limit to 17MB?  Would you need software (ala Connectix)
to see the additional memory?

Thanks for any info, I'll summarize responses and repost -


Tom McGinn
Sun Microsystems
Interactive Media Systems
From: arao@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Andy Rao    )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: help
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:17:37 GMT

Hi ya'll.   I am an electrical engineering/computer science/computer
engineering major.  I have decided to buy a macintosh, but having
worked in the pc dos world so long i am not sure what kind of
macintosh i should get.  could someone reccomend a macintosh for
my needs? i will be doing a lot of programming, maybe some
mathematical calculations, word pprocessing and things that EE/CS
majors do.  also, could someone please give me a rundown of the macs
currently being made?  thanks muchly...

-andy
From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Brainstorm Accelerator (for Mac Plus)
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:37:36 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Aug31.134709.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> tschneid@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
>
>I have one "still-in-the-shrink-wrap" Brainstrom accelerator for sale.

>I want to sell this accelerator uninstalled - you will need to remove 
>
>I would like to get $195(US). Email me (tschneid@hydra.uwo.ca) for more

If anyone is interested in these, they go for $199 INSTALLED at 
1-800-WE-FIX-MACS (800-933-4962).  Sounds like a lot better deal NEW WITH
WARRANTY AND INSTALLATION than you're offering....

.............................................................................
....Boyd Ostroff / Technical Director / SUNY Oswego Department of Theatre....
...............Voice: (315) 341-2987 /  Fax: (315) 341-3394..................
..............ostroff@oswego.oswego.edu / ostroff@cboard.UUCP................
From: mxmora@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: screen adjustemnt utility
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:44:26 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <howarth.714417022@proto> howarth@rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth) writes:
>
>  Could someone point out the ftp site, directory and filename of a
>Mac utility to help adjust your screen. I though there was such a 
>beast out there which help set the screen size, etc but I can't
>seem to find it...

I'm not quite sure what you mean by adjusting the screen size but I 
wrote a small application that displays the test lines that the old
monitors cdev use to. Its called Monitor adjust and its still on sumex I think.
If its not on sumex, email me and I'll send it to you.

Matt

-- 
___________________________________________________________
Matthew Mora                |   my Mac  Matt_Mora@sri.com
SRI International           |  my unix  mxmora@unix.sri.com
___________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: Help Me Set Up a MacTablet w/ a Plus
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:11:35 GMT

ZTerm .9 has a nice set of pin-out diagrams for that cable conversion, if you
need it.


--  
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
 Glen Stewart - Internet: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org
From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB100: Just Say NO?
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:54:34 GMT
Organization: New York University

In article <17mi00INNcie@agate.berkeley.edu>, luigi@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Luigi Semenzato) writes:
> I need a laptop for four things:
> 
> 	1. take around and do basic text editing;
> 	2. send and receive fax;
> 	3. use as a terminal at home, with a 9600 baud modem;
> 	4. run MIDI software.
> 
> The PB100 would be just perfect, but what is this I hear about
> problems with the serial port?  Does it mean I can't use it for
> 2, 3, and 4?  How could Apple bungle so badly?   Thanks  --Luigi


I would caution you to get a different Powerbook re: #4.

I have a PB100 and bought "The Miracle" (piano teaching software)
when it came out for the Mac a couple of months ago, but it wouldn't
run on my PB100.  The Mac wouldn't "see" the "Miracle" device 
hooked into the printer port (the same port I use for modem use).

--Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hoshor@mdd.comm.mot.com (Alan Hoshor)
Subject: Aliases over EtherTalk
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: MOTOROLA Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:49:03 GMT

I'm trying to use aliases on a drive mounted on my Finder's desktop.  The
drive
resides on a Quadra across a single Ethernet cable.  I can read and write
to
the drive.  Aliases however, can't seem to see it.

I seem to remember doing this over AppleTalk.  Do I have a poor memory, or
is
EtherTalk different.

Thanks for any help,

Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: schwim@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Rosebud)
Subject: Re: First boot after powerup fails
Keywords: bogus rumors
Organization: The Land of Chocolate
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:55:31 GMT

Eric.Choi@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Eric Choi) ponders:
>Glen, Alien 4 virus? We just updated our program for T4 and Chinatalk
>viruses. What is Alien 4?

The so-called virus is vaporware and let's keep it that way.
If you want the gory details of the false alarm, read 
comp.sys.mac.announce.

				Larry
From: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: logitech mouse misbehavior
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:22:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: rhaller.rhaller-290892105801
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: University of Oregon

I have encountered the following misbehavior by a Logitech Mouseman
attached to a IIci running System 7 and MacX.  I send a remote command as
follows:
/usr/bin/X11/xterm -ls -sb -title "(host xterm" -display "(display"
My preference is set for b&w rooted.

When the xterm window appears, I start tvtwm.

When the mouse is programed to send 'left cursor' and 'right cursor' for
the middle and right buttons respectively and MacX is configured to expect
this, then all is well.

If instead, I configure both to send/expect option-left and option-right
instead, then when I use the actual option and cursor keys, things still
work just fine. However, if I use the logitech mouseman, here's what
happens.

If I click either the middle or right button while the cursor is outside
the xterm window but on the root window, the associated menu pops up as
usual. However, if I move the cursor outside the menu window and release
the button, the menu window does not disappear and the cursor stays in the
shape of  '<=='. If I click the mouse button now, the cursor turns into an
icon of the mouse, indicating which button I pushed and stays that way.

If I send a mouse click command via the actual option-left or option-right
that corresponds to the button I pressed to get into the bozo state, the
cursor goes back to normal behavior. Pressing an other mouse button while
in bozo state, requires one to send at least two option-cursor commands
before leaving bozo state (it looks like if you send them in the same order
as the mouse clicks, exactly two do the trick).

Any ideas what's going on here and how to fix it? I prefer to have my
cursor keys act like cursor keys without having to hold down the option
which is what I have to do if I configure MacX to expect simply left and
right as the mouse clicks.

-Rich Haller
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From: spice@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Phone number of Chip Merchant?
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:57:33 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Can anyone give me the phone number and address of the Chip Merchant?
I looked in a couple of Mac magazines for it but couldnt find it.

                        Thanks

                       Scott Corley

spice@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Keeping Syquest cartridge in drive...
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:29:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Btt1tp.5M3
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Aug30.054943.21287@tamsun.tamu.edu> sefhelp@tamuts.tamu.edu (Steve Fuller) writes:

>I believe the 'kachunk' sound is the heads retracting and the door closing.
>( can anyone verify this? )

Not being small enough to get in and look myself ... I `believe' that
the `kachunk' sound is the heads retracting, but that the door doesn't 
close until the cart is ejected by about an 1.5".  Note that the cart
moves freely during insertion until the last 1.5" ... that is the 
point at which the tab on the spring loaded door catches and is pushed
open.   My recommendation, then, is to leave a frequently used cart
in the mechanism, removed to the point that it moves freely.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware