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From: Joan.Wolschleger@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Joan Wolschleger)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Disabled
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:52:21 GMT
Reply-To: Joan.Wolschleger@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/3 - Nerd's Nook, Rocky River OH

Index Number: 23372

Last night I sat in the Gossip room with some folks, and they
brought up that I should be Resident Council President.  During the
course of these discussions, it was requested that I work to get
new refrigerators and to keep the disabled out our building.  I was
astounded that folks would ask a disabled person to get rid of
other disabled persons from a building designated for senior and
disabled persons.  They didn't think of me as disabled because I'm
not in a wheelchair (yet).

There is growing feeling in my building against the wheelchair
bound.  I don't understand it yet, but I think it might be related
to this crabby old man in a wheelchair or the fact that there are a
lot more wheelchairs rolling around our halls.  I pointed out to
them that I couldn't do that because it would violate the ADA law.
They asked what that was and I told them Americans with
Disabilities Act which forbids discrimination because of disability
in housing and employment.  Thus far I've kept our newsletter
neutral to the special needs of both the senior and disabled
population, and just put in things that would be of interest to
both groups.  However, I'm thinking that the September issue should
contain something concerning the disabled, and maybe explain the
ADA and how it relates to CMHA's high rises.

I'm pondering whether I need to put something in about seniors and
disabled whenever I write about aging or disability.

A week or so ago, I saw a message which I believe was entitled MISS
MANNERS which gave some advice about how to treat the disabled.  I
had a problem with my system at that time and I missed saving the
message before I deleted the QWK packet.  Would the person who
wrote it please repost it or send it to me via netmail?

 * OLX 2.2 * Biography: posterity's revenge

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From: John.W..Fisher@p0.f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (John W. Fisher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Swelling
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:08:22 GMT
Reply-To: John.W..Fisher@p0.f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14.0 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23345

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

LC>The feet are swollen almost twice their normal size and my legs appear
LC>to be swollen also.  When I get up to go into the living room
LC>to rest and get my legs and feet up, it's very difficult to walk.
LC>It may be that I just sat too long and all the blood settled in my legs
LC>and feet?
LC>Anyone else experience this?  Remember, my problem is failed back
LC>surgeries, and chronic pain.

Linda,

        I experienced the same thing back in 86-87.  Both my feet were
        swelled up to twice there normal size, my legs were also.  I
        must say that I was on medication at the time that was doing
        this.  Since then, I have on occasional had a wee bit swelling
        in my feet but nothing major.  I don't think that your problem
        lies in the blood settling in your legs but possible from edima
        (unsure of the spelling on that one).  I notice if I'm on the
        computer or standing for a while that my legs hurt and if
        longer, then I tend to swell just a little.  If you are on
        medication, then your swelling could be caused by that otherwise
        I have no other ideas.

                                                John W. Fisher III
 * SLMR 2.0 * Weird Al Yankovic is needed for those down days.

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From: Janet.Vibert@f6.n3615.z1.fidonet.org (Janet Vibert)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Monolog program
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:13:00 GMT
Reply-To: Janet.Vibert@f6.n3615.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3615/6 - The Hitchin' Post, Knoxville TN

Index Number: 23252

Is anyone familiar with this program?  I got it from a board that
focuses on disabilities.  It was in 2 files.  The first one un-packed to
15 files and the second to 16.  However, when trying to run the install,
it comes up with an error "Failed to open archive file"  Can anyone give
me a hand with this??

Thanks!

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From: jims@EOS.ARC.NASA.GOV (Jim Stevenson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Looking for some people
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:30:39 GMT
Reply-To: jims@EOS.ARC.NASA.GOV (Jim Stevenson)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23357

[Note from Bill McGarry: I am actually writing this on behalf
 of Jim after a phone conversation with Jim who would like to
 contact these people.]

I am trying to contact some old friends:
  Naomi Shaw
  Cathy Talbott
  Celia Sanchez
  Michael Yale (a lawyer in Canada?)

I would appreciate any word of these people.

Thank you,
Jim Stevenson
1-415-604-5720
From: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RE: TDD RELAY SERVICE
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:06:46 GMT
Reply-To: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23339

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hi Rick,

I "think" that most TDDs that are both Baudot and Ascii capable
usually offer dual speed modes of 110 and 300bps. (One thing
however, 300bps across a little TDD LED display is more than "major
league fast.")

The Broken Rose BBS is TBBS multiline and I have called it many
times with my TDD in Ascii mode. In fact, there is a mod and number
of ways that software can be set to facilitate easier TDD to a TBBS
BBS communication.

I think I have even posted a message or three in either ABLED or
SilentTalk (Probably better than two years ago no) calling in via
TDD.  The only problems being that messages had to be posting in
unppercase and of course, Baudot code cannot be used and it is
likely that larger percentage of deaf people do not yet have dual
mode TDDs.

Also being legally blind, I have a special display output on my TDD
and so I usally opt for a BBS connect of 110 when doing a TDD to
Broken Rose connect.

Keepin' the faith!

.                             Vixen

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From: Gary.Warren@f5.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Warren)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Cancer sufferer in financial crisis
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:30:29 GMT
Reply-To: Gary.Warren@f5.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/5 - Health-Link, Austin TX

Index Number: 23445

Phil, the only suggestions I have for your friend is to contact either
the Civil Rights Commission of the US Dept. of Justice (since this
sounds like a blatant violation under ADA) or the regional Social
Security office, probably both.  Let us know what happens.
glw

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From: Lovette.Christiansen@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Lovette Christiansen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: soft vert and dec talk
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:39:31 GMT
Reply-To: Lovette.Christiansen@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/715 - The BandMaster, Vancouver BC
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23465

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi there.  I am rather new to this section.  I have a question
though and hope someone can help.  I have been trying to put
something in my autoexec.bat so that it will bring up a program
after loading my speech.  BUt for some reason it will not do this.
The speech loads and then I have to load the other program.  It
seems the problem is in the speech because if I put what I want in
the autoexec.bat and do not load the speech it works.  I am using
softvert and Dectalk.  Any suugestions and or help will be greatly
appreciated.

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From: Bruce.Couper@f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Bruce Couper)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Using a computer without
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:16:04 GMT
Reply-To: Bruce.Couper@f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:229/401 - The Connection HST!, Oshawa ON

Index Number: 23263

SDW>We would be very grateful if you could send me any information
   >leading to solutions here.

You will no doubt receive other replies to your query Sandro; I suggest
you contact IBM and ask for their current listings of hardware,
software, suppliers and retailers relating to adaptive technology for
persons with disabilities.

I have a friend who is a quad and whose voice is inaudible.  He uses an
on-screen "scanner" or keyboard emulator with a sip 'n puff switch
input; surprisingly efficient.  His is the Words + Scanning Keyboard
Emulator.  I have seen one from TASH in Canada which is also excellent.
Such systems might be considered as well as speech recognition.

Info on these and other solutions can be found in the free IBM info
package.

Please let us know how you make out.

IBM National Support Center for Persons with Disabilities
P. O. Box 2150
Atlanta, GA 30055
(800) 426-2133
(404) 238-4806
(800) 284-9482 (TDD)

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From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: DEAF CULTURE
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:15:51 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23432

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 LG> Betty, this message is really for James Womack, but I
 LG> don't want to upset Ann, so I am addressing it to you.

There is really no need to address this message to Betty - it
would have been just as appropriate to address it to ALL.

 LG> I have read the book "Disavblingg of the Deaf Community", and I
 LG> can see that ASL and Deaf Culture are really the most
 LG> appropriate cultural formss for the born-deaf or pre-
 LG> lingually deafened.

Why do you feel ASL and Deaf Culture are really the most appropriate
cultural forms for the born-deaf or pre-lingually deafened?  I don't
agree with this because there are many born-deaf folks who are not
a part of the Deaf Culture nor do they use ASL.  I'm one of them...
and so are many who belong to SHHH as well as the AG Bell organization.
I actually believe it depends on the home environment of the above
parties and how their families raise them.  I think all born-deaf
should have at least a shot at oralism.  Many of us who are oral
and depend on speechreading function quite well, some better than
others where there is never a need for ASL.

 LG> Infants with all their senses do not sometimes babble and
 LG> sometimes make finger motions. Infants with all their senses
 LG> ALWAYS babble.

All infants babble whether they are deaf or not - they may not
speak clearly but they do make noises.  The only exception may
be they have a brain damage disability or are born without vocal
cords, but deafness has nothing to do with the fact an infant
cannot babble.

I have to agree with you in your statement about deafness being
a disability (I hate the word handicapped because I feel one is
only handicapped if they allow themselves to be so) - Deaf Culture
in my opinion is something the Deaf created among themselves simply
because they choose to be recognized as Deaf persons and thus want
to be a group of such.  We are all individuals first, not a deaf
person.  IMHO, just because we are deaf/Deaf/HoH doesn't mean we
have to belong to one group or the other - we should be able to
fit in any group (personally, I don't see the need for such
sterotyping as a group) and if one is limiting themselves into
such groups, they are missing out on what is out in the BIG wide
world.

This is just my opinion which is based on what I've experienced
and from what I've been exposed to.

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From: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: B n s and grade 2
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:06:38 GMT
Reply-To: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Organization: California State University, Chico
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23360

In article <23183@handicap.news> Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>a bunch of you on here told me what I believed to be the case that
>braille and speak was not capable of producing grade 2 braille
>creates the file she turns the tranlator on and brailles in grade
>two. then when she prints it she does I think she said a cord b and
>a cord t and the paper product comes out in grade 2.  so you all
>figure this one out. tandy

As you said, *she* writes in grade 2; the BNS did not translate it into
grade 2, it either translates it back to grade 1 or it doesn't translate
it at all, so the person who was hoping to use the BNS as a grade 1 to
grade 2 translator for computer generated text is out of luck.
From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Artic and sounding b
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23410

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 * Reply to msg originally in Blinktalk

 -=> Quoting Barbara Akin to All <=-

 BA> Hi!
 BA> I saw a message on here, but didn't remember who it was
 BA> from that some one had a Sounding Board and Artic software
 BA> for sale.
 BA> I would be interested, please if you read this, and you're
 BA> the one selling it, do leave me a message here, orcall my
 BA> business at 602-468-9852
 BA> Thank you.

     Barbara, if you really did see someone selling Artic software for use
on a SoundingBoard please do me a favor and don't buy it!
     There is no version of Artic software that will work with a
soundingboard synthesizer.  I'll stake my 8 years of experience in the
access technology field on that statement. Artic never has and probably
never will work with a SoundingBoard.
     D. T.

... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: Carla.Campbell@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Carla Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: WP Office help
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:10:01 GMT
Reply-To: Carla.Campbell@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23418

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 WS>      What does slash nk do?

The command "WP /NK" when used to start WordPerfect causes WP to write
everything through BIOS.   I mean everything-- your input, the entire
status line... Everything.

That's how many speech programs used to make WP speak: they'd create
silent windows which covered the first 24 lines of the screen and one
which blocked off the last partof the status line and run WP with the
"/nk" command line option.  WP's status line (the first part with the
"Save Document?", "SRCH" and other such prompts and information) would
speak, since it was not silenced.  Input and the "Pg/Ln/Pos" information
would be silent, except when responding to the speech program's commands
(arrow keys, window reading, etc.)

Since the advent of monitored windows, the /nk switch has lost its
usefulness in most cases.

... Read what I mean, not what I write!

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From: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: DOGS AND LANDLORDS
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:38:40 GMT
Reply-To: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23462

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 VIXEN > So how is it that I can be charged a pet deposit for a dog
 VIXEN > guide being present in my home when California Civil Code
 VIXEN > says that a landlord cannot levy any such extra charge?
 VIXEN > Also, why does the same Civil Code make it very clear that
 VIXEN > even though such an extra charge cannot be levied, just the
 VIXEN > same, the dog guide user is responsible for any damage done
 VIXEN > by the dog guide.

 TOM G > Vixen,

 TOM G > I think according to the code you mentioned you should ask
 TOM G > for a refund of the $200.

 Well, after doing some investigating, I have found that there are
 some real problems with Guide Dog legislation in not only
 California, but every state. I will post a message to all concerning
 this matter since a number of us are participating in this thread
 and it will be easier than writing individually addressed messages.

 TOM G > The second point you made is whether the blind person
 TOM G > should be responsible for the actions of his or her dog.
 TOM G > I think that is very reasonable. tom G.

 No, you have missed my point completely. What I was addressing was
 the contradictory application of the California code. The point here
 being, that the code states that landlords cannot levy an extra charge
 because of a dog guides prescence while making it clear that the dog
 guide owner will be reponsible for any damage done by the dog.
 The way I would read that in simple English would be, Even though a
 a landlord cannot charge us a pet deposit because of our dog guides,
 we must take responsibility for any actual damage the dog may do.
 All the while, keeping in mind, that as we all know, a pet deposit
 is monies paid in advance to the property owner against possible
 future damages. So, why then bother to say, the landlord cannot
 levy any extra charge because of the dog guides prescence and that
 the dog guide owner will be responsible for any damages just
 the same, if the code "does not" mean what it implies and that
 landlords can charge us pet desposits. In other words, the code,
 as written, is almost useless as a point of issue when arguing
 the legality of a pet deposit imposed on dog guide.

 As to the actual matter of whether or not dog guide user are
 responsible for the behaviours of and damages done by their dog
 guides, of course they are. I never implied or suggested otherwise,
 to do so, would be ludicrous.

 If you're further intesested, keep an eye out for my message to all,
 as I would love to continue hearing from others in this matter. I
 wonder how many other dog users in BLINKTALK may have been charged a
 pet deposit because of their dog guide.

 Keepin' the faith!

 .                          Vixen

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From: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Koppelmann)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: watches
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:44:32 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23297

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

>their old one and the main thing I like is the speech.  It isn't
>too loud and it doesn't beep or ding before it gives the time like
>most others do except for on the hour and I don't mind that.  I
>just don't want everybody in church hearing me checking to see what
>time it is.

In that case, you'll like the new one as it's much less loud, and
while I've not heard anyone here say how easy it is to put a new
battery in, at least there is only one to be replaced, and I supose
you could take it to Shack and have them replace it, they have for me.

                                Bill k.

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Windows access maybe
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:04:33 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23328

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I liked your comments about GUI and Outspoken for the Mac.  Have
you had any experience or seen the Berkeley Windows Tool Kit?  If
so, what did you think and could you expound on what it does and
how it does it?

Thus far I have not seen anyone who went to the conventions mention
anything about seeing Window Bridge and am beginning to wonder if
the claim about Window Bridge was premature or vaporware.

        D. T.

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From: Carl.Thomas@f5.n3647.z1.fidonet.org (Carl Thomas)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Wheel Chair carrier
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:18:15 GMT
Reply-To: Carl.Thomas@f5.n3647.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3647/5 - Equalizer, Sumter SC

Index Number: 23272

It's in the Sears Specialog catalog BH. This was a home health
catalog which expired May 26, 1992. It had a special 1-800-326-1750
for ordering from that catalog only. The following is the info from
the catalog.

Wheelchair Transporters

4. Aluminum Alloy Brackets fit rear bumper. Support locks on to
brackets with quick release pins. Lift folded chair and secure with
nylon ties. Removable when not in use. Cover sold separately below.
Hardware and instructions included.

Weight 7 pounds.
Order number  F 8 BH 1643    Price $149.95 US

It appears to be catalog order only. Hopr this helps. The picture
shows two clamp type things attached to rear bumper and the carrier
brackets hooked to them. Doesn't look like a whole lot to it for
$150 but you know how that goes.

Carl

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