From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: The Quran and the Modern Science
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:40:57 CST
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Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

>In article <1992Dec29.095756.13151@topaz.ucq.edu.au>, 
>salama@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>..... (deleted).......
> 
>    This is nothing but Mustafa bashing based on your prejudices against him
> for no apparent reason.

 Nosssir ! You can't bash a rhino !!!! I am not prejudiced. Please ask 
 Mirza Ilyas/ Naufal Khan about our great Mullah Mustafa Ibrahim !!!!!
 (A thick-skinned animal like Mustafa Ibrahim *cannot* be bashed. Also, I
  have not attempted to do so.) You are biased Mr.
>..... (deleted).........
>> 
>>   The concept of creation of this Universe, as investigated by Jeans, Hubble,
>>   Einstien, Eddington etc. are quite profound and not at all simplistic.
>>   Moreover, in the recent times, Hawking-Penrose singularity equation does
>>   show that there *was* a singular behavior at the time of creation. 
>> 
>       Do you want to imply that the people who are not physicists have no
> idea of the modern theory of cosmology? It is not the precise mathematical
> theories but "a general concept concerning the formation of the Universe",
> outlined in the Qur'an. Read the text carefully.

   There is *nothing* to read carefully, if it is *not* put forward in the
   most precise mathematical manner. You are talking about science, not,
   basket-weaving, Mr . ! On this very issue, I dismiss your comments as most
   inept and erroneous, because, modern cosmology is based on Hawking-Penrose
   equations. In the book: " A Brief History of TIme " - S.W.Hawking, the
   author explains the "cosmic stuff" in an elegant, non-mathematical manner
   what the mathematics imply in the real-world. This is possible because
   Hawking is a Lucasian Professor at Cambridge - a renowned mathematical
   physicist, not some speculative "Dr.B". 
 
>
>      Of course, the western scientists don't want embarassment but the
> evangelists very openly do so.
>

   The Western Science is a direct product of the Age of Reason. Thus, being
   compelled by reason, scientists have abandoned to go some obscure path that
   in all probablilty lead them up a blind alley ! Only Dr.B's go by that way.

>.... (deleted).... 
> ridiculous and blasphemeous attemp. It was his personal and sincere search
> of truth which led him to those conclusions rather than a deliberate attempt.
>

  Actually this a fad. Trying to christen religious texts/ scriptures in the
  holy waters of Quantum Theory/ Maxwell's Equations etc. is a game some just
  want to play. They know such efforts will sell well. BTW, are u' an agent
  of Dr.B - trying to publicize his book ?
 
> 
> Nowhere did Jesus Christ (PBUH) claim to be God but still it is
> vigorously claimed.

  Followers of Christ in the Middle-ages till date have mostly exhibited that
  it is impossible to emulate the Ultimate of Kindness - Jesus Christ (PBUH).
  I need not take lessons from you on this. O.K ? One of the most progressive
  Prophets I have known is Jesus Christ.
  
>      A final comment. Read the book, it is worth reading and it is very short.
>

  No I might go to a disco joint ! Thanks anyway !

  I have a twopence thought: assuming that you are devout Mussalman, please
                             attach some respect for Qur'an. Allah (saws) will
                             then have some sympathy for you. Do what Qur'an
                             has exactly asked you to do. Don't do tadpole
                             jumping.


  BTW, mathematics is the only way God communicates to man - explaining His
  majestic creation. It is *not* to opposse the Almighty. I hope you understand
  what Al-Islam means ???????????????????? 

> 
>      Salam.
>    (doesn't claim to be good)

     - deb chatterjee
    (a good samaritan)
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