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From: dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans)
Subject: Stalker?
Keywords: worried
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:14:15 GMT


Hello

My husband has worked with a man for about 4 years who is:
38 years old.  He is extremely socially inept.  (if he is not
specifically invited to a meeting or to lunch, .etc he takes it
as personal rejection and non-invition) He has never had an intimate
relationship with a woman OR a man, is attracted only to unattainable,
20-ish women despite the fact that he is obese and balding, and varies
from extreme egoism to  extreme low self-esteem.  Very intelligent,
but his work is his whole life. No personal life, no friends (except my
husband, who is "pathologically social" with EVERYONE). Raised by a cold
mother, a PhD who stayed in college into his mid-30's. (lived in his
mother's garage the whole time, on oatmeal and macaroni.  He STILL eats
mainly only macaroni and fast-food, despite the fact that he earns over
$50,000 a year).  If invited to a party, he gets "sick" and does not go.

Question:  The other day I read an article in a magazine which says that
he fits (to a T) the profile of a "stalker".  He's been on-again, off-again
obsessed with one woman he works with.  Should my husband and I cut off
social contact with this person?  Should I buy my husband a flak-jacket?
What are the "warning signs" if a person like this were going to go off of  
the deep end?  We've gotten him to go to a shrink, but it doesn't seem to
be doing any good. (about a year now).  We've tried setting him up with
nice women his own age, but if they're accomplished, he gets threatened, 
and if they're not, they're not "good enough" for him.

Should I be worried?


Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita)
Subject: Jeff Tanaka
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: sci
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:00:11 GMT


Today Jeff Tanaka was found, dead, in his car which had run into a pond,
during a mild flood.  Jeff was a distinguished psychologist, and
psychometrician.  I knew him as a student, and fellow asian-american
academic.  Mostly, he helped me when I was confused.

I'm sure that others who were closer to him, and with access to
biographical data will write a much better obituary than this.

I will miss Jeff.

Frank Fujita  
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: RSHAW@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Questioning Motives
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:33:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: wvnvm.92314.113311RSHAW
 <1992Oct29.103339.1@opie.bgsu.edu> <Bwxz13.BxF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
 <1992Oct30.125417.1@opie.bgsu.edu> <Bwy818.K6q@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

Frank Fujita wrote:

>I don't think so.  That is, the search for knowledge should be
>unhampered, and certainly no question should be made of motives!  One
>might want to question consequences (i.e. do we tell people how to
>prepare weapons of mass destruction?), but not motives.

Sometimes the motive of the researchers is applied, with the intent to
create weapons, or at least improve weapons.  So when that is questioned,
is that consequences or motives that is questioned?

Using the intelligence example you gave -- how do you know that the researchers
are unprejudiced?  Why make that assumption?  Shouldn't you question the
motives if you wonder about that?  As a moral person, I would feel obligated
to question the motives of research that might have negative consequences,
to satisfy myself that I wasn't helping someone that directly.

[Note to flamers:  This isn't worded well, I recognize there are holes in
that statement, so keep that in mind when you are lighting your flamethrowers.
(-:]

Bottom line (though probably not the last word :-)  :
  We should always question the motives of research, but not always use that
as a way to stop or hinder research.  As individuals, we should be sure we
understand why someone is asking us to participate in research, and as
researchers, we should be sure we understand why we are doing our research,
and why whoever is paying for it is doing so.  I feel there is a moral
obligation to do so.

I *do* have an asbestos suit...   (-:

Cheers,
Ray "Never afraid of controversy" Shaw
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: rolfl@ulrik.uio.no (Rolf Lindgren)
Subject: Re: exhibitionism.
Organization: Det samfunnsvitenskapelige fakultet, Universitetet i Oslo
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:10:30 GMT

In article <markts.721551412@mcl> markts@mcl.ucsb.edu (mark.) writes:
>    just thought i would share something which 
>    contradicted what i learned in various
>    psych classes. 
>

After having read this, I'd sure like to know more about what you've
learned in various psych classes.


[Description of exhibisionism scene removed]

>
>    i thought exhibitionists were deviants which
>    sickened everyone, especially women.
>

Where's the natural law stating that exhibisionists must sicken anyone?
As you must have been told in some Psych classes, people are different and
react differently to different situations. Why shouldn't a woman take
delight in watching a healthy male so long as she doesn't feel threatened?

Exhibisionists are deviants only in the sense that exhibisionism isn't
generally accepted by the society, and that there aren't a whole lot of
them. 

>    i did not know what to do. i thought the woman
>    might be in danger, but i remember reading
>    that sex-offenders rarely attemp any crime 
>    other than the one they usually perform.
>

Wise. 

>    the exhibitionist left the bus at the next 
>    stop (he may have seen me look back).
>
>    i am feeling a little quesy just writing
>    about it. any thoughts?

Don't believe everything they tell you at scool.

>
>    mark.
>
>    mst3k is all i have to say.
>
--
       Rolf Lindgren           |       "The opinions expressed above are
       616 Bjerke Studentheim  |        not necessarily those of anyone"
       N-0589 OSLO 5           |           rolf.lindgren@usit.uio.no
From: m0054@tnc.UUCP (TERILEE EDWARDS)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: SES & minorities
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:36:53 GMT
Reply-To: m0054@tnc.UUCP (TERILEE EDWARDS)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Greetings.  I am looking for journal articles or books on the
use of the Hollingshead SES (socio-economic status), especially
it's use with people from different ethnic and economic groups.
It has been mentioned verbally that some ethnic groups underestimate
their SES when compared to the Hollingshead formula.
  In a research project I found that EVERYONE underestimated their
SES.
  Please let me know of any articles/books/research related to this!
I've had no luck in finding useful articles using psylit or 
psych abstracts on this topic.
  thanks.
ciao, Terilee
-- 
The Next Challenge - Public Access Unix in Northern Va. - Washington D.C.
703-803-0391 To log in for trial and account info.
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: duca@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: my favorite molecules, the endorphins
Reply-To: duca@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:27:30 GMT

Hi, there

I'm doing research on the endorphins (and the whole related family of
endogenous opiates) as signal mediators in the CNS, endocrine, and
immune systems.  (I know it sounds ambitious, but it's really not so
broad in scope.)  Does anyone know of any sources where dependable
levels of endorphins have been measured in connection with either
affective or neurological disorders, or perhaps in normal subjects?
I'm especially looking for endorphin concentrations changes across the
normal menstrual cycle or in conjunction with the GnRH pulse generator.
Any suggestions?  Thanx, Karen

e-mail me at: duca@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: "ronald davis" <ronald.davis@canrem.com>
Subject: j t fraser
Reply-To: "ronald davis" <ronald.davis@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: sci
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:35:12 EST

Could anyone out there tell me how I might get in touch with J. T.
Fraser, the writer and editor of many interdisciplinary works on time,
and the founder of the International Society for the Study of Time?

I'd be grateful if anyone could answer me at rdavis@epas.utoronto.ca

Thanks,

Ron Davis
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: mel@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Mel Slater)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: failed mail
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:38:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

I received a message recently from Lyn Dawson, about a message
I'd posted on this newsgroup. Lyn, my mail to you bounces back,
with a "Bad Address" message.
Mel
From: jmdeyoung@acs.harding.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Why?
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:55:04 GMT
Reply-To: jmdeyoung@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

In article <1992Nov08.142206.7204@donau.et.tudelft.nl>, thomas@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (Thomas Okken) writes:
>Why?
>
>There are certain abnormal behaviours among men, in our present-day western
>culture, that are so widely misrepresented and misunderstood, that I find it
>unbearable to just sit and watch, as people are destroyed by prejudice. I am
>talking about homosexuality and cross-dressing, and also about
>transsexuality.
>To define these terms:
>- Homosexuality: having or wanting intimate or sexual relations with men
>- Cross-dressing: wearing or wanting to wear women's clothes
>- Transsexuality: wanting to be a woman
>Parallel behaviours also occur among women, by the way, but in this article,
>I will concentrate on the male angle. Since I am a man, that is my area of
>expertise.
>When referring to homosexuality, cross-dressing and transsexuality as a
>group, I will call them "unMale" behaviours. This is just for convenience; as
>will become apparent, I make no moral judgment.

Nonsensical mess munched....

>
>And wanting to be a woman does not mean you cannot be a man. Ask yourself
>what you mean by "being a man". When I hear someone say: "Real men don't wear
>dresses", I would like to answer: "What, you think my dick falls of when I
>put on a dress"? (But I don't; I prefer not to get in barroom fights.)
>Or do you think maleness equates with sexual performance? Having problems
>with sex doesn't mean you are not a proper man. It usually means that you
>expect too much from it, that's all.

Problems with sex comes from many more areas than that.  Number one would be
lack of education.

>Sex is not a competitive sport!
>Ask yourself why! Don't spare yourself, and don't regard our culture as
>right. Whenever you find yourself in conflict with our culture, it is most
>likely the culture that is wrong, not you.
>

I guess if our culture is so wrong we should start condoning such behaviors as
incest, rape and other criminal behaviors.  We can't just let every behavior
become acceptable.  

--Mark


> - Thomas
>
>thomas@knoware.ruu.nl (UUCP)
>thomas%knoware.ruu.nl@accucx.cc.ruu.nl
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: rdnelson@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger D. Nelson)
Subject: Re: PSI powers?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:32:39 GMT

[request for information on repeatable psi experiments]

In article <DLB.92Nov10103402@fanny.wash.inmet.com> dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton) writes:
>
>A good book is "Margins of Reality" by Jahn and Dunne, which reports
>on the work at the PEAR organization at Princeton.  Asking over on
>sci.skeptic might produce some results; Roger Nelson of the PEAR
>program reads and posts there, as he has the time.  There is a VERY
>low signal to noise ratio there (even lower than sci.psychology :)),
>so be prepared for a lot of random responses.
>
I certainly agree about the signal to noise ratio in sci.skeptic, and
often scan the list of articles in sci.psychology to see if there might
be a topic of interest.  

I will be happy to send a general article and a publication list to a
postal address.  

Roger
From: faype@bcvms.bc.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Books: General psychology, severe trauma, etc.
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:29:43 GMT
Organization: Boston College

In article <kathleen.721201494@starburst.umd.edu>, kathleen@starburst.umd.edu (Kathleen L. Santangelo) writes:
> 
> I am deeply interested in some recommendations of psychology books,
> particularly in the following subjects:
> 
>                  3) Severe psychological trauma (causes, psychological 
>                     treatment, and dealing with someone who is recovering 
>                     from one)

The most commonly cited is:
*************************************************************
Title:          Psychological trauma / -edited by- Bessel A. van der Kolk.
 Published:      Washington, DC : American Psychiatric Press, c1987.

 Description:    xiii, 237 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.

 Notes:          Includes bibliographical references and index.

 Subjects:    S= Post-traumatic stress disorder.
                 Post-traumatic stress disorder in children.
                 Parent and child.
 Author:         Herman, Judith Lewis, 1942-
*************************************************************

A new one which is fairly general:
*************************************************************
 Title:          Trauma and recovery / Judith Lewis Herman.
 Published:      -New York, N.Y.- : BasicBooks, c1992.

 Description:    xi, 276 p. ; 24 cm.

 Notes:          Includes bibliographical references (p. -237--267) and index.

 Subjects:    S= Post-traumatic stress disorder.
                 Post-traumatic stress disorder--Treatment.
*************************************************************

-faype@bcvms.bc.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: rosch@cpdw.enet.dec.com (Ray Rosch)
Subject: Re: Neurolinguistic Programming
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:31:25 GMT


In article <1992Nov5.194833.6705@ausom.oz.au>, lad@ausom.oz.au (Lyn Dawson) writes...
>Would anyone know if there is a discussion group covering this subject
>or Ericksonian Therapy (hypnosis) techniques available.  Possibly
>someone is Phoenix Arizona may know (Milton Erickson's base).  Also
>discussion regarding Bandler, Grindler, DeLozier and Dilts et al.
>Looking forward to replies.  Thank you!
>-- 
>Lyn Dawson		InterNet:	lad%ausom.oz.@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
>East Brighton
>Victoria
>Australia		"Practice senseless acts of kindness and random beauty"


Your best bet is probably Compuserve.  The NLP discussion takes place in the 
AI group section 9 or 10.

*
*	Opinions do not represent my employer
*
From: ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Definition of abuse?
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:52:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxLqBt.A99
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

silverm@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Jeff Silverman) writes: 
  "We are abusive when we use actions, words, or attitudes to hurt,
  threaten, or humiliate others, or which are meant to dominate them or
  control how they think or feel.  Abuse can be Physical, Verbal, or
  Emotional.  It can be active (doing something) or passive (withholding,
  or not doing something)."

How does a parent keep a child from doing things that the child wants to
do, but the parent knows is bad for the child.  It seems to me that by
definition (above) any control that parent exerts is abuse.  Please
correct my (obviously mistaken) impression.

Frank Fujita
dov
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: PSI powers?
From: dov@menora.weizmann.ac.il (Dov Grobgeld)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:54:28 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center.

This might be a faq, and in that case I would be happy if someone
points me to it.

My question is simply: Has there ever been any scientifically reliable
experiment confirming what (I think) is known as 'PSI power' (or
perhaps PSI ability.) This includes such things as:

    *  telepathy
    *  predicting the future
       (e.g. telling the symbol of a card before it is turned over.)

I got into a discussion about these subjects with some relatives who
had been to a show with "The Little Oren" - a 14 year old in Israel who
claims (together with his father) that they are able to telepathy to
each other.

Any comments?

--
                                                        ___   ___
                                                      /  o  \   o \
Dov Grobgeld                                         ( o  o  ) o   |
The Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel             \  o  /o  o /
"Where the tree of wisdom carries oranges"              | |   | |
                                                       _| |_ _| |_

Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Re: Exercise vs Psychotherapy
Keywords: exercise psychotherapy
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 09:04:01 EST

In article <1992Nov03.000014.5388@sco.com> jcohen@sco.COM (Jon Cohen) writes:
>It annoys me that none of the high-paid
>mental health experts who I consulted for a couple of years
>ever said a word such as "It's important to your emotional
>health to take care of your body," or "I suggest you get
>started on an exercise program, which will help your anxiety
>, give you energy, and improve your overall health and
>self esteem. You are a fat and lazy person and need to move
>your butt, or your brain will just stew up there and drive
>you crazy."

Many therapists do give precisely such advice.
There are some studies of the mental health benefits of 
regular exercise, which suggest the expected benefits.
The studies I've seen have involved mostly running  
in healthy adults and gentle exercise in older people.
Yes it helps.  No it isn't a replacement for all of the
specific benefits psychotherapy may provide, such as they are.
From: RMK111@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: moving patterns&depression
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:02:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92316.230218RMK111
Organization: Penn State University

I am seeking information regarding the relationship between movement patterns (
specifically running patterns) and depression.

Does anyone know of any anecdotal or experimental evidence examining how a
person changes their movement as their mood changes or what movement patterns
are characterisitc of a clinically depressed individual?  Please help!!!

Regina Knotts
From: Ed.Evans@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Theodore Roszak arti
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:09:02 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992

PC>a college education. Let the technicians divide the universe
PC>into easily digestable bits, and the scholars attempt to comprehend
PC>and synthesize more broadly.

This may be what an ecopsychology leads to, an understanding of the
connections we've missed. :+)
Regards.
___
 X SLMR 2.0 #1708 X No Freedom without Wilderness!

--- Maximus 2.00
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: jpaavola@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: left-handed -> right-handed
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:46:49 GMT





        Where could I find information on
        left-handed people who were turned 
        into right-handed?


        Johanna
Newsgroups: sci.psychology,soc.women,soc.men,sci.anthropology
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Re: More Women Than Men Prefer to be Alone
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:18:00 GMT

In article <1doj8oINNjkk@news.aero.org>, foy@aero.org (Richard Foy) writes...
>A news item this morning said that 20% of married men preferred to be home
>alone. However, 50% of married women preferred to be home alone.
>Are there other studies similiar to this? What are the reasons for more
>women then men preferreing to be by themselves?


How about giving more complete information about the authors
of the study and where it was done? Then somebody might be 
able to look up the authors in the Social Sciences Citation
Index and find out about subsequent or previous work.

Of course, if the news item didn't give any information
about who did the study, it would be hard for a reasonably
astute news consumer to take it seriously anyway.
From: mel@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Mel Slater)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: papers on NLP
Keywords: neuro linguistic programming
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:05:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

Hallo,
I'm doing some work on user interface design in computing,
and have come across some ideas in "neuro linguistic programming"
that might help us to understand certain user reactions.
Have there been any "scientific" studies of the claims of
NLP - published in refereed journals? I'm particularly interested
in "representation systems", and "sub-modalities", but anything
published on NLP would be interesting.

Please e-mail me at mel@dcs.qmw.ac.uk - I would compile the list
and post it to this newsgroup if anyone is interested.

Thanks,
Mel Slater.
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: lad@ausom.oz.au (Lyn Dawson)
Subject: Neurolinguistic Programming
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:48:33 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Would anyone know if there is a discussion group covering this subject
or Ericksonian Therapy (hypnosis) techniques available.  Possibly
someone is Phoenix Arizona may know (Milton Erickson's base).  Also
discussion regarding Bandler, Grindler, DeLozier and Dilts et al.
Looking forward to replies.  Thank you!
-- 
Lyn Dawson		InterNet:	lad%ausom.oz.@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
East Brighton
Victoria
Australia		"Practice senseless acts of kindness and random beauty"
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: re:StraitjacketDIR/REG
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:51:07 GMT

In article <00720499345@elgamy.uucp.taronga.com> elg@elgamy.uucp.taronga.com (Eric Lee Green) writes:
>From article <1992Oct27.221411.1@opie.bgsu.edu>, by jnigrin@opie.bgsu.edu:
>> Actually, psychologists don't have a lot to do with straitjackets
>> anymore.  You might want to try a criminology or law-enforcement -- or
>> S&M -- newsgroup.
>
>It's sad that so many people have these images of what modern psychological
>practice is like.
>


A lot of people also think that we're "Mind Readers". Sheyea; Too bad they
can't read what *I'm* thinking! ;^}


>--
                            R ****
                             I
                              C
                          **** K
From: kathleen@starburst.umd.edu (Kathleen L. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Books: General psychology, severe trauma, etc.
Summary: Need recommendations of books covering certain subjects
Keywords: books, recommendations
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:44:54 GMT


I am deeply interested in some recommendations of psychology books,
particularly in the following subjects:

                 1) General psychology, an overview 
                 2) Guilt induced and self-sacrificing behavior
                 3) Severe psychological trauma (causes, psychological 
                    treatment, and dealing with someone who is recovering 
                    from one)

In terms of my background, I have never taken a formal psychology course so I
am not familiar with many of the terms, but I am nevertheless familiar with
many of the basic principles.  In other words, I'm searching for books which
are fairly detailed but which don't use lots of terms standard to the
profession without defining them first.

Many thanks in advance,

                               Kathleen
-------
Every person has a secret dream, buried deep in their subconscious.  Like
a fire, that dream can be fanned into a heartwarming blaze; or it can be
smothered into charred ashes.  But it can never be destroyed, so long as
that person is alive.                          
                                             (Kathleen@Starburst.umd.edu)
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