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From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 105 MPH (was Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd.)
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:33:18 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Friday October 09 1992 07:04, Dana H. Myers wrote to All:

 DHM> Ahem.... 105 MPH on Skyline happens to be the DoD Nominal Speed...

Dana, since you are posting from Los Angeles, you must be talking about
Skyline Drive. I've never had the pleasure, but have seen film and read
much about it. The Skyline Blvd. in the Santa Cruz mountains which runs
past Alice's Restaraunt in Woodside is one you can get up to speeds way
over 100 mph for short times on, but I wouldn't want to try to average
105 mph for any distance. There IS a Century Club that inducts those who
run from Woodside to Hghwy 92 on Skyline Blvd. with an average speed of
100 mph or more, but it has very few members. Those who try and are not
inducted often don't care anymore. Sudden damp spots, stones, leaves,
and general road hazards tend to make it difficult, even when the "course"
is checked and cleared in advance.

The Sheriff and his merry band of deputies with radar guns further inhibit
the membership list.

I have also never ridden Skyline Blvd. without coming upon a bicycle going
15 mph taking up half the lane I am in, meaning if I am going the speed
limit, I am still closing at a sizeable velocity. Having escaped the radar
once because the deputy got called away for an emergency before he could
write the ticket, and having wiped out mightily on Hghwy 9 headed up to
Skyline Blvd., I think I'll pass on attempting to join the Century Club
in this lifetime.

On the other hand, there ARE roads in France (the N106 is one stellar ex.)
on which one could average 100 mph for a distance of maybe 10 miles, if you
picked the right ten miles from the 100 miles it extends.

As for 105 mph being DoD nominal speed, harrumph, make it average speed
and I'll be impressed. I've run 170 plus for 20 seconds, which is a lot
less scary than negotiating ten miles of public highway at 100 mph to me.

Anyway, good riding, and be good on Angeles Crest Road. :-)

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Buffeting
Summary: Helmet regearing
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:39:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: elektro.1992Oct13.213955.6501
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <81481@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
>> mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
>>> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>>>3.
>>>  One of the new Bell helmets (as worn by Mario Andretti) has some
>>>ridges or strips on its shell to improve stability. Has anyone tried
    
    ***    [   much discussion deleted    ]    ***

>>Actually, you are paying for the development of a helmet geared for
>>Harley Riders!
>
>Well that explains things!  I've been having trouble with my helmet,
>and I think it might be geared wrong.  I ride a Honda, so I'm wondering
>if I should re-gear it with Al sprockets?  Is it possible to re-gear

All you gotta do is put a bigger tire on the helmet, that effectively
changes the gearing ... haven't you been paying attention to the thread
about re-tire-ing old helmets ??  Same applies here!


>a Harley helmet to work on a Jap bike?  Should I change my chain at the
>same time I regear my helmet, or is it ok to keep using the same one?
>What kind of lube is best to use in my helmet?  I've heard that 90wt
>oil is ok, but some people tell me that PJ-1 spray on is the only way
>to go...

Wildroot hair oil!  That's the only way to go.


>|captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Brian Murfin)  DoD# 0690  nt650gt     \_^___/   |
>


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends re-gear old helmets  }
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Summary: Wrong.
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:04:30 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Oct6.210846.17355@wam.umd.edu>, delilah@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:

] nope. there is no transmitting element whatsoever in a radar detector; in  
] fact, since it doesn't (like a radio does) have to reproduce the signal it  
] receives,

Wrong - all detectors with "superheterodyne" circuitry _do_ produce
radio waves of the same frequency they are trying to detect.

  Recently, tests of radar detectors have included a chart indicating
at what distance certain radar detectors set others off.
  Also, Canadian police (and one anti-detector state) have
"radar-detector detectors" that use this fact to catch illegal
detector users.

   I stand by my last post, in saying that these emissions are small
enough to be considered harmless.

                                           Kevin
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning into it
Date: 13 Oct 1992 20:53:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 22360@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:

>Doesn't everybody learn from a dirt bike first...

No.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rutgers (was: Re: Newbe Flamewars, was: MSF: BRC or ERC?)
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:27:47 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.184334.11887@nsscmail.att.com>, cel@nsscmail.att.com
>(clayton EDward LEIHY iii) writes:
>
>] I occasionally ride thru the New Brunswick Campus on my way home from
>] work.
>] 
>] But, on my Gold Wing, if it had doors and windows, they'd be locked
>] and rolled up respectively!!
>] 
>] New Brunswick (Rutgers) not my first choice of riding routes!
>
>It's my _last_ choice, but, since I'm in NB, if I don't ride through
>it, I can't get out.  :(
>
>You know how hard it is to finish up a great ride and head home?
>Well, add to that feeling the knowledge that you're heading towards
>what is perhaps the biggest armpit of a town in this time zone, and it
>makes it even worse.

Hmmmm. Haven't spent much time in Newark, have you?

(My address was 265 High St [Now ML King Blvd] for about 5 years...)
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Harley Sportbikes
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:07:44 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California


Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher (egreen@east.sun.com) wrote:
> HD management would be idiots to build sports bikes.
> 
> Do you think Sun should build mainframes?
> Peterbuilt should build sports cars?
> Boeing should build hang gliders?
> Pepsi should produce beer?

  HD should build Mk 82 Bomb Casings?
  HD should build fake tatoos?
  HD should build yuppie swimwear?
  HD should build the evo engine:-) ?
  HD should build ...well, you get the point.

If Harley Davidson wanted to invest the resources into designing a
decent sportbike; why would they be "idiots"?  Seems to me that
sportbike design could lead to research with spinoffs which could
potentially help their entire line of bikes.

I guess they just get faster short-term profits from going into the
swimwear buisiness.

    Ron Mayer
    R100GS, GS400
    DoD#556
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Faceshield fogging, what detergent to use?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:37:35 GMT

dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.160849.2809@pica.army.mil>, tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom
>Coradeschi <tcora>) wrote:
 
>> Well, now that cold weather is upon us (temps under 40 degF leaving for
>> work the past 2 days), it's time to fight that most heinous of villains,
>> faceshield fogging.

>I went out and bought the rain-x anti-fog shit the other day.  As far
>as I've been able to tell it works great.  It seems to need re-application
>every 5 days or so, but it does a hell of a job of keeping the old face
>shield clear.  I wonder how it would work with a double shield.

Rain-X Anit-fog is ok, but it doesn't do me any good when I've got the
Noj QuietRider installed. Sealing the bottom of the helmet makes for a
worst-case fogging scenario.

Both Dawn and Palmolive (what happened to be under the counter) dish
soaps have worked fine, but they needed reapplication every couple of
days.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:12:00 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Tuesday October 13 1992 18:17, Brice Dowaliby wrote to All:

 >> Apparently you do not know as much as you think you do. It happened,
 >> whether you read the newspaper or not. Perhaps you've spent too much
 >> time reading alt.folklore.urban instead of newspapers and news
 >> magazines?

 BD> Thanks for the fine reference, John.  Now that *you've* said it
 BD> happened I'm supposed to believe it, right?

If you think I am going to spend hours searching 100's of magazines, or go to
the library and do a fiche search, to satisfy your concern about my
credibility, you are sadly mistaken. You may accept my statement or not. I
for one don't give a damn.

Lets just assume I'm wrong and you are right. Do I have to prove that to
you too? Or is this standard of proof only required for that which you do
not wish to believe?

John

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--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 80/81 CB750 s
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:59:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> Hmmmm.  My Concours does this after a half hour at DoD
-> speeds.  Are there other explanations?  How would a
-> single shock cause a weave?  I have wandered about this.

 The shock is probably fading.  Motocross bikes used to have a hell of a
time with this, even for a 15-minute enduro.  Street bikes generally
don't work the shocks so hard and so are relatively unaffected.  At DoD
speeds, you're working the shock much harder.

 When you lose damping, the machine will overreact to minor pitches and
cambers in the road surface.

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From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!)
Keywords: cager,asshole
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:38:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.184114.29949@news.columbia.edu> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>	Driving on Broadway (here in New York) in left lane of two lanes, on
>the left side of my lane (to avoid buses pulling from the right lane). Coming
>up to a cross street when the car in front of me (also in left lane, but kind
>of on top of the lane markers) decides he wants to turn left.
>[...crunch deleted...]
>
>	The bad news is I'm told (please tell me if I'm wrong) that because
>I hit him from behind it will be called my fault. This sucks as we called the
>cops and it's going to go to my insurance company who will raise my rates
>but won't pay for the damage I did to his car. All I did to my bike was
>crunch one crash bar and highway peg.

	Not true that it's your fault.  He should be cited for "failure to
yield right of way."  If he wasn't, then you march down to the local precinct
and file the traffic ticket yourself.  It'll cost you a day in court and
you'll probably have to prosecute it yourself, but if you beat him, you're
in much better shape insurance-wise.

	Other tip:  get a copy of the police report.  If you think it's
inaccurate, you can file an amended version that tells your side of the
story.  The amendment will actually be made by the cop authoring the report,
so it is all official.

	90% of the insurance issue ties into the police report.  If the cop
says it's the other guy's fault, then that's that.

>	I don't know if I should have been in the right side of my lane... I've
>come close to getting hammered by buses or cars avoiding buses there before, so
>I had started using the left side of the lane when in the left lane. 
>Who knows......

	Most of the stuff that I've been taught (MSF, driver's ed,
experience, mentors) says to ride where you're most likely to be seen and
where you have the greatest space cushion between you and potential hazards.
Sounds to me like you were doing just that.

>	Despite the insurance bummers, though, I figure for an accident between
>me and a Lincoln Continental, not hurting my bike, myself, or even dropping the
>bike isn't that bad.... still don't feel too triumphant, though

	You are one damn lucky guy.  Any accident that you can walk away
from...


-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            1975 CB360T (needs a name)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
From: bozek@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drilling my own disks
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:55:10 GMT


     Heat transfer increases with the amount of turdulence. The 
amount increases dramatically even though the amount number of 
holes or the size of the holes may not seem like much.

If the turbulence varries with airspeed as a squared function, 
then small changes in the hole's velocity with respect to the road or
the air will create higher turbulence with out much trouble.

The " hole" is moving in a circle that is rapidly changing direction
When you add the wheel spin, then those little holes are screaming.

Lot of chaos going on. Big increase in turbulence, another big increase
in heat transfer...

thermo1, then thermo2, then heat transfer

bozek@umaecs.edu
Mechanical Engineering
Univ. of Massachusetts-Amherst
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:55:36 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:

>John Hamilton (john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG) wrote:

[bunch of stuff about effects of various sizes ammunition deleted]
 
>What a lovely country you Americans live in.  How did you manage to get 
>yourselves in such a mess?

What's your point, Nick?  John did say "If I have to shoot someone with 
my .357, I will shoot for the center of the chest, and they won't get 
back up. Hopefully, that won't ever have to happen."  Is it this desire
to *not* to have to shoot somebody which makes you wonder about the
state of the country?  What do Brits say, "I hope I get the chance
to shoot someone today?"
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Deafness...WOT?
Date: 12 Oct 92 07:33:58 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1992Oct09.113119.16896@bnr.uk>, by datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild):
> Did any of you BBC watchers see the page: Motorcycling Causes Deafness on 
> CEEFAX today?  They, the Medical Society,  had checked a hundred anarchical 
> hippy nazis -oops, sorry, I mean bikers, and found that more than half had 
> damaged hearing.  They recommended ear plugs and better soundproofing in 
> helmets.
> 
> They also stated that it was because of the low frequency wind noise, and not
> the noise from the bike that caused this ph-ear-nomenon.
> 
> Nick (WOT?)  MAG 73516  DoD 1069   Ear trumpet
> 
Check the latest issue of Performance Bikes (Nov 92)- 
This has a report on deafness in bikers, from racers to commuters and
police bikers as well, and they found that some helmets actually
amplify the noise that caused the damage to hearing.
(BTW, you also get a free pair of earplugs on the cover!)

Antony.
DoD#1832
From: bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rec.Moto has rules?
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:24:02 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland) writes:
>Punishment? This DoD gets Better all the time!
>
>I don't like beer!

That's no good, you're still on the side of the Bud drinkers.

-- 
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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Now we're on to something
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:50:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.145206.9555@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>Perhaps you could provide contact information for some companies that do
>manufacture time? I've been running short on it lately, and would like
>to replenish my stock.

Well, when I was younger, I had a Seiko (you know, the perfect kind). But 
then I got older and a Tag Heur seemed to fit my style of living. Sure the
Seiko is faster and the Tag has a real buzz, but it holds its value after
ten years. Of course I always wanted a Timex, but I never quite bought the 
U.S. image with Japanese parts. Right now I want to buy one of those classic 
Bulova's with the stems hanging out there in the breeze, that don't need a 
battery - before they stop making that kind......

Of course when it comes right down to it - all these time machines work
pretty well and instead of bashing each other we should be supporting 
attendance at MSF (Management Skills Foundation) time management courses.

-John
============================================================================
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    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
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From: rickr@cedco.uucp (Rick Raque)
Subject: Re: 105 MPH (was Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd.)
Organization: K.U.U.G.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:11:03 GMT

mf@dancer.uucp (24227-fusco) writes:

>>****************************************************************************
>>Eric House			"My employer doesn't share its opinions with
>>"Quayle in '94"		   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	Yea, and maybe we can elect the DoD to congress.....

Hey! why not.... any DoD member couldn't do any worse than the people that
are there now! : )    There would realy be some changes made.... ; )  

rickr@cedco.uucp     DoD # 0673 |     Kentuckiana Unix Users Group 


-- 

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|   Louisville KY          |                 DoD  #0673                     |
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From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: How to drop your bike on a cop
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 11:30:29 GMT

SUTFF About Aust. woods deleted.
You must have woken them up after their stop at the local
Police donut store(tm). On top of that he must have gotten
up on the wrong side of the car (you do drive on the wrong
side of the road down there). :-)
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From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:25:57 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <1992Oct05.095022.20671@microsoft.com> chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:

>In rec.motorcycles blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>;chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:
>;>Maybe you'd better trade in your bike for a cage
>;>with an automatic transmission.  You see, with
>;>bikes, especially SPORT bikes, you occasionally
>;>have to shift gears to get maximum power.
>;
>;Maybe you should try riding a bike with a REAL engine. Something that
>;has 100 bhp, and lots of low end torque too. 

>Are you making an offer?  I've never wrecked, er,
>I mean driven an FJ before.  :)

>I've had three bikes now that make 110+ bhp peak, 
>and all of them go faster when revved way up.
>Hell, I even used to drive a low-revving, torquey
>DP bike, and that one occasionally required a down-
>shift too.

>The point is that this "top gear roll on" thing is
>bullshit.  You can gear a bike so low that it's
>turning 9000rpm in top gear at 70mph, and that bike
>will toast everything else on the road in "top gear
>roll on."  A very tall top gear gives you lousy top 
>gear acceleration, but is great for touring.  If you 
>want quick acceleration without a downshift, just 
>don't use the top two or three gears.  Works for me.

>---
>chris

Exactly!
  They all have enough torque to leave any car behind. If your woried
about another bike getting a jump on you what are you doing in top gear
anyway? Torque is nice (that's why we ride liter bikes) but if your
motor is geared too much for it (like Harley) then you miss the thrill
of winding it through the gears.
                               Jorg
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