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From: jjb@sequent.com (Jeff Berkowitz)
Subject: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: pdx
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 16:04:34 GMT

I just heard on KXL that the developer who owns the land beneath
the Imbrie Farmhouse, a.k.a. Cornelius Pass Roadhouse, has renewed
his application to "develop" the property.

There will be either a hearing or a vote in Hillsboro (?City Council?)
this Tuesday.

I wish I had more facts; if anybody has a phone number for the group
called Friends of the Imbrie Farmhouse, could you post it?  I'll try
to drop by the CPR today and get it.

Personally, I think the property is already "developed"; it has the
CPR on it.  The area needs the CPR a lot more than it needs another
apartment building or whatever this developer guy wants to put on it.

Time to Get Involved.  Unlike most of the Big Issues in the world,
this might (or might not, true) be something You Can Effect.
-- 
Jeff Berkowitz, Sequent Computer Systems   jjb@sequent.com  uunet!sequent!jjb
From: neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke)
Newsgroups: pdx.general,sqnt-public.msgs
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Date: 30 Aug 92 01:01:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: cadreor.1992Aug30.010117.26794
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Cadre Technologies, Inc., Portland Operation

I would hate to see the Roadhouse demolished or changed.  I like it just the
way it is (and I don't even drink).

If anyone has any more information, could they please post and/or E-mail it?
Thanks.

Neil

-- 
Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."
Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: patti@hosehead.intel.com (Patti Beadles)
Subject: Looking for piano instructor
Originator: patti@hosehead
Reply-To: patti@hosehead.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation, Hillsboro, OR
Distribution: pdx
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:36:29 GMT

I've recently started playing the piano again after a ten year
hiatus, and I find (not surprisingly) that I'm in need of lessons.

The ideal instructor would be someone who is a serious pianist, has
a good background in music, and is willing to work with me on technique
and the like.  I'm not interested in dealing with the lady down the
road who teaches the neighborhood kids -- I can get through that stage
on my own.  I envision having bi-weekly or monthly lessons until I get
back into shape, and then just doing things on an as-needed basis.
Location is not too important, though I do need someone who can cope
with either evenings or weekends.

If there's interest, I'll summarize responses.
-- 
Patti Beadles  503/696-4358 | I don't speak for Intel, nor vice-versa.
   patti@hosehead.intel.com |
   75555.767@compuserve.com | Practice random kindness and
or just yell, "Hey, Patti!" |                  senseless acts of beauty.
Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: tron@agora.rain.com (Ron Tsur)
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Distribution: pdx
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:06:03 GMT

Sorry guys, I already used the $20 out of my CPR Rescue Fund, to buy soap,
toothpaste, toothbrushes, shampoo and baby wipes for the Hurricane victims
in Florida...

Ron Tsur - tron@agora.rain.com

Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: tim@ssd.intel.com (Tim Gates)
Subject: Looking for House/Duplex to Rent
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:03:06 GMT

I don't know if this is the correct forum for the this message, but I'm
sure someone will tell me if it isnt.

I'm in the market to rent a house/duplex on the west side of town (Beaverton,
Tigard, ect...).  Currently living in Rock Creek in a two bedroom, one bath
condo with a garage and am looking for something similar.  Condo is in the
process of being sold and I must be out the 31st of September.

Please send any leads or ideas to the EMAIL address above.

Thanks in advance


Please send any leads or ideas to the EMAIL address above.
From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Re: Saving the Imbrie Farmhouse AKA Cornelius Pass Roadhouse
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:22:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: psg.1992Aug30.232216.6582
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon, US

But can the land/building be saved without saving the grease and french fries?

-- 
randy@psg.com   ...!uunet!m2xenix!randy
From: tedm@agora.rain.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Saving the Imbrie Farmhouse AKA Cornelius Pass Roadhouse
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:14:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.Btt13K.AEp
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Open Communications Forum

Why is it necessary to purchase the land that CPR sits on?  I have seen many
instances of old buildings being jacked up on blocks and transported to
different pieces of property.  Yes, there are some very nice old big trees
on the land, but if what you are interested in is saving CPR, I don't see that
it is necessary to purchase the land it sits on.

Ted Mittelstaedt
tedm@agora.rain.com
From: royle@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Roy W Lewallen)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Need house painter recommendation
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:41:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.6831
Distribution: pdx


Can anyone recommend a house painter? I'm not after the absolute lowest cost,
but want a good, careful job which will last.

Thanks,

Roy Lewallen
(w) 629-4034
(h) 646-2885
royle@tekig6.pen.tek.com
From: jmess@pdx.csd.mot.com (John Messman)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: race car rides
Summary: Doernbecher Dash
Keywords: race car rides
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:22:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxvme.1304
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Motorola CSD, Beaverton, OR
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

There will be a sport car race at PIR on 8/19-8/20 where the proceeds
are donated to the Doernbecher Childrens Hospital. This is an annual
event but this year will be a little different in that race car 
rides will be offered between 11:25-12:25 on 8/19. The cost is $5 for 
two laps at slightly below race speeds. If you have never ridden in a
race car before and are 18 or more years old, you will find it quite a 
thrill. There will be a variety of probuction based cars from small bore 
to large bore available for rides, any of which are capable of 100 MPH+ 
speeds on PIR. All the proceeds from the rides will go to the Childrens 
Hospital. It is a great cause and a great way to experience "the thrill of a 
lifetime".

Beyond the race car rides there should be a lot of close racing. Hope to
see you there.
-- 
John Messman                          Motorola Inc., Commercial Systems Division
jmess@pdx.csd.mot.com                 . . . . tektronix!nosun!cvedc!mcspdx!jmess
Voice: (503) 643 6247                 . . . . uunet!apple!motcsd!mcspdx!jmess
Newsgroups: pdx.general,sqnt-public.msgs
From: jjb@sequent.com (Jeff Berkowitz)
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: pdx
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:41:03 GMT

I wrote:

>>I just heard on KXL that the developer who owns the land beneath
>>the Imbrie Farmhouse, a.k.a. Cornelius Pass Roadhouse, has renewed
>>his application to "develop" the property.

davest@sequent.com (David C. Stewart) wrote:

>	If Hillsboro is anything like Beaverton, the City Council will
>be much more agreeable to hearing from city residents at the hearing,
>rather than from outsiders.

This is a very good point.  FYA (for y'all), what actually happened
is that the hearing was cancelled.  Going out there turned out to be
a good move, however, because I did meet the president of the group
Friends of the Imbrie Farmhouse.  I will be in contact with him and
will probably become the acting Sequent contact for Friends of the
Imbrie Farmhouse in the future.  Obviously by coordinating through
this group we can avoid problems like the one Dave mentions as well
as lots of other pits and potholes.

Please send me email if you're interested in help save the place, I
think it's a heck of a good cause personally...

jjb
-- 
Jeff Berkowitz, Sequent Computer Systems   jjb@sequent.com  uunet!sequent!jjb
From: merlyn@ora.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Newsgroups: pdx.general,sqnt-public.msgs
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:47:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: romulus.MERLYN.92Aug31204731
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Stonehenge Consulting Services; Portland, Oregon, USA

In article <1992Aug29.160434.25830@sequent.com> jjb@sequent.com (Jeff Berkowitz) writes:
   I just heard on KXL that the developer who owns the land beneath
   the Imbrie Farmhouse, a.k.a. Cornelius Pass Roadhouse, has renewed
   his application to "develop" the property.
[...]
   Personally, I think the property is already "developed"; it has the
   CPR on it.  The area needs the CPR a lot more than it needs another
   apartment building or whatever this developer guy wants to put on it.

Hmm.  You know, with all the money the McMenamin brothers have now, I
would think that if it made both financial and "social" sense, they
would have purchased the land beneath CPR already.

So, that tells me that whatever offer we can muster by passing the
plate has got to be chicken feed compared to what this developer is
going to be getting for the property.

Don't get yer hopes up, in other words.

Just another frequentor of the fine McM brewpubs,
--
Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095
merlyn@reed.edu (guest account) merlyn@ora.com (better for permanent record)
cute quote: "Welcome to Portland, Oregon -- home of the California Raisins!"
Xref: sparky pdx.general:1048 or.general:528
From: netops@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Randy King)
Newsgroups: pdx.general,tek.general,or.general
Subject: house for rent
Keywords: rent
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:37:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekgen.1179
Followup-To: pdx.general
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

This posting is for a friend. 


House for Rent:  3 bd, 2 bath, double garage, big backyard, close to Tek/Nike/
		Intel/Sequent, etc. Will be available on October 1st or mid
		September.
Rent: $650.00

Call 627-5678.
From: caroline@iacocca.wr.tek.com (Caroline Driver)
Newsgroups: tek.general,pdx.general
Subject: House for Rent near Intel in Hillsboro
Summary: newer 3 bedroom/2 bath
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:53:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: wrgate.10561
Followup-To: tek.general
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

HOUSE FOR RENT
Available immediately.
Newer Ranch Style House in Hillsboro near Intel.
New carpet and fresh paint. 
Three bedrooms/two baths (new custom master bath).
Living room with floor to ceiling raised hearth 
heatalator fireplace for cozy winter evenings.
Kitchen with almond appliances (dishwasher and 
stove with self-cleaning oven) and a large pantry.
Space for washer and dryer.
Totally fenced back yard with fruit trees and storage shed.
Rent $795/month.
For more information or to see this rental, 
please contact DCR Property Management at 641-3309.
Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: newman@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Mike Newman)
Subject: Columbia Cable and the Sci-Fi channel
Summary: Persuading Columbia Cable to carry the Science Fiction channel
Keywords: cable, tv
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
Distribution: pdx
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 01:44:37 GMT

I called Columbia Cable last night to get the latest word about
whether or not they will carry the Sci-Fi channel. Apparently they
have had quite a few requests for it, and are trying to figure out
how to fit it in. They still claim that there are no channels
available - which means that something else must go before the
Sci-Fi channel can be added.

If you're a Columbia Cable subscriber and want the Science Fiction
channel, I suggest that you call them at 644-4300 and let them know
you want it. Broadcasting is scheduled to start on September 24th, but
there is already some interesting activity on the satellite channel.

If you have a satellite dish, the place to look is Galaxy 5, transponder 4.

Mike Newman


-- 
Mike Newman
newman@hfglobe.intel.com
	  -or-
Mike_Newman@ccm.hf.intel.com
From: sol@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Sonia Lyris)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: September Model Mugging (Women's self defense) -- interested?
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:13:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Aug29.011301.21831
Distribution: pdx
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

I'm looking for someone to take my place in the September Model
Mugging class in Portland.  Model Mugging is a self-defense course
for women.  I've heard very good things about this course.
 
I'm enrolled in the September course.  My problem is that I now have
a wedding to go to that conflicts with one of the class days.  As
enthusiastic as I am about the course, I would also like to go to the
wedding.
 
So... if you're interested enough in Model Mugging to sign up for the
September course, you can take my place, and I can switch to the
October course and go to the wedding.
 
About Model Mugging
-------------------
 
From the info packet: Model Mugging is a course for women.  The
objective of the course is to provide a knock-out defense against a
single unarmed assailant.  (In the U.S., single unarmed assailants
account for about 75% of all sexual assaults.)
 
Call and they'll send you info, or phone you back if you have
questions.  The number is 503/243-1296.  If you _do_ decide to take
the course, I would be grateful if you would explain to them (and to
me) that you are taking my place, so I can switch to October.
 
Please note: My only connection to Model Mugging is as an informed
consumer.  I have heard a lot of good things about the course from
other martial artists.  I've beeing doing various martial arts for
about fifteen years.
 
If you have any other questions that you think I can answer, please
feel free to send me email.
 
     Sonia Lyris
     sol@qiclab.scn.rain.com

-- 
    email: sol@qiclab.scn.rain.com
From: michaelg@samsara.tv.tek.com (Michael Gies)
Newsgroups: pdx.general,tek.general
Subject: Subaru mechanics
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:42:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: tvnews.1992Aug27.154201.15616
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix TV Products
Originator: michaelg@samsara.tv.tek.com

Howdy,
	My sister needs to find a Subaru mechanic.  She lives close-in NE and
works in the Washington Square area, so a fairly close-in location would be
best.

Thanks in advance,


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Michael Gies    Tektronix, Inc.  P.O. Box 500  MS 58-639  Beaverton, OR  97077
michaelg@tv.tv.tek.com, !tektronix!tv.tv.tek.com!michaelg Phone: (503) 627-2661
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: rdj@adpgate.UUCP (Richard Johnson)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Re: Water and Waste
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:34:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: curly.1520
Distribution: pdx
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter) writes:
: It amazes me that the state which is reknown [sic] for its RAIN, has 
: a bloody water shortage, ... [ranting removed] ... try investing [in] 
: a little science... and no more water problem. Portland would 
: definately [sic] die in a desert within a week.

I'm surprised no one has bitten yet.

### Flame mode ON ###
First, the problem we have with our water is not with its hemoglobin
count.  Second, we never had a serious water problem until we got a large
influx of people, many from that same southern California you name.  

I'd go so far as to say these same conservation-minded people you hold up
as an ideal are quite tarnished.  They represent the same southern 
California that's been trying to beg, buy, or steal water from northern 
California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Alaska for more than ten years.
Building a 400 mile-long aquaduct through a desert doesn't sound like
conservation to me.
### Flame mode OFF ###

### Apology mode ON ###
I do not mean to imply even remotely that So Cal's water problems should
be laid at the feet of the average person.  For the most part, you who
read this had little to do with the high-finance/government decision to
subsidize avocados and beef in the desert.  I understand it's not your
fault, and don't know exactly what to do about it now other than what you
are doing -- moving out.
### Apology mode OFF ###

More seriously, this area has been in a drought for seven years.  Second,
our population has grown at a phenomenal rate over the same period.  
Third, our watersheds have been trashed by government mismanagment of the
the forests.  Fourth, we recently changed our policies about river flows
in order to provide more water to salmon at the cost of less to people.

It was not ignorance, nor stupidity, nor wastefulness, nor lack of
planning that brought us to this.  It was _federal_ mismanagment of the
underlying foundations of our resource.

-- 
Richard Johnson   (rdj%adpgate.uucp@apple.com)   (richard@agora.rain.com)
The thing about the number 2, like pi and e, giving it such power is that 
it is part of a small, conspiratorial, cabal of universal constants that
controls everything.
Newsgroups: sqnt-public.msgs,pdx.general
From: batie@agora.rain.com (Alan Batie)
Subject: Re: More on Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR)
Keywords: Hillsboro CC meeting TUESDAY NIGHT
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:33:17 GMT

jjb@sequent.com (Jeff Berkowitz) writes:
>INSTEAD, the issue will be on the agenda at the Hillsboro City
>Council meeting, Tuesday night September 1st.  The meeting begins
>at 7PM and this issue is "almost first" on the agenda.

I went to the meeting, and the Imbrie Farmhouse part was cancelled
because the legal notice that it was going to be discussed "wasn't
accurate".  Someone there told me "they pulled a whizzer on us".
I dunno, lawyers can be pretty picky, especially on controversial
issues, to try to minimize the appeals.  I signed up on the list
to be notified when it gets rescheduled.
-- 
Alan Batie                               \
batie@agora.rain.com                      \       Vote NO on Discrimination
+1 503 452-0960                          / \      Vote NO on 9!
45 28 59 N / 122 43 20 W / 440' MSL     /   \
Newsgroups: pdx.general,sqnt-public.msgs
From: davest@sequent.com (David C. Stewart)
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: pdx
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 18:48:17 GMT

jjb@sequent.com (Jeff Berkowitz) writes:

>I just heard on KXL that the developer who owns the land beneath
>the Imbrie Farmhouse, a.k.a. Cornelius Pass Roadhouse, has renewed
>his application to "develop" the property.

>There will be either a hearing or a vote in Hillsboro (?City Council?)
>this Tuesday.

	If Hillsboro is anything like Beaverton, the City Council will
be much more agreeable to hearing from city residents at the hearing,
rather than from outsiders.


-- 
David C. Stewart                       	uunet!sequent!davest
Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.		davest@sequent.com
Newsgroups: pdx.movies
From: Joe Niski <niski@ssd.intel.com>
Subject: Re: blockbuster inventory
Organization: Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:38:43 GMT

Subject: Re: blockbuster inventory
From: Bill Newcomb, nuke@reed.edu
In article <1992Aug31.043946.11510@reed.edu> Bill Newcomb, nuke@reed.edu
writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.175729.9769@ichips.intel.com> johnb@pdxgp1 (John
Bauer) writes:
>
>
>>Q: Is Blockbuster bluenosed?
>
>Yes, they are. I seem to remember there being a big flap-doodle about the
>last temtpation of christ when it came out on video. I also thought I
heard
>that they donate money to some eagle forum type deal, but I have no way
>of qualifying that. I try not to patronize the place, because in Memphis,
>where I used to live, they put up a big store right across the street
from
>one of the oldest and best video stores in town, one that wasn't so
>priggish, and they had some people fooled for a while, but Video Magic
>managed to do quite well in spite of them. 
>
>I like Hollywood video here, but that's treally the only one I've been
to,
>as I don't own a vcr.
>
>nuke@reed.edu

seems like i recall that when the NC17 rating came into existence as the
offical replacement for the X rating, Lackluster Video annouced they
wouldn't carry any films with that rating (since it's really X).

hi  Bill.
---------------------------------------------
Joe Niski                                          niski@ssd.intel.com
Macintosh Network Admin.
Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
Beaverton, OR USA
From: nuke@reed.edu (Bill Newcomb)
Newsgroups: pdx.movies
Subject: Re: blockbuster inventory
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:39:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug31.043946.11510
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Aug29.175729.9769@ichips.intel.com> johnb@pdxgp1 (John Bauer) writes:


>Q: Is Blockbuster bluenosed?

Yes, they are. I seem to remember there being a big flap-doodle about the
last temtpation of christ when it came out on video. I also thought I heard
that they donate money to some eagle forum type deal, but I have no way
of qualifying that. I try not to patronize the place, because in Memphis,
where I used to live, they put up a big store right across the street from
one of the oldest and best video stores in town, one that wasn't so
priggish, and they had some people fooled for a while, but Video Magic
managed to do quite well in spite of them. 

I like Hollywood video here, but that's treally the only one I've been to,
as I don't own a vcr.

nuke@reed.edu
--
~/.oo
Newsgroups: pdx.movies
From: johnnyb@flamingo.ims.com (Johnny Battle)
Subject: Twin Peaks movie
Reply-To: johnnyb@flamingo.ims.com
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:18:53 GMT

Ted Majar did not do justice to the Twin Peaks movie.  One reason I went
was that I often like movies that he pans.  I doubt that he ever saw
the TV show.  I didn't read his whole review yet, but I think one of his
big criticisms was that the movie doesn't make sense.  If you didn't
see most of the TV episodes, you would be very confused by the movie.
It concerns events prior to the stuff in the series, but it actually
ties up many (but certainly not all) of the loose ends left by the series'
cancellation.  In fact if you have a good imagination and watch closely at
the end of the movie, it more or less answers the question of what becomes
of Agent Cooper in that weird place with the red curtains (was it the black
lodge?) It certainly deserves better than one star.  There is some mediocre
acting at the beginning, but the girl who portrays Laura Palmer does a 
great job.

Having said all that, I'm not sure I can recommend the movie without some
major caveats.  It has a considerably darker mood than the series, for one
thing.  And although there are some fun and weird short cameo scenes with 
many of the characters from the series, most of the movie focuses on Laura
and the things leading up to her murder.  You don't get nearly as many of 
the bizarre but lighthearted scenes from daily life in Twin Peaks that I
enjoyed in the series.  And the movie is very explicit with sex scenes (fine
with me, but some of these are quite twisted and disturbing. Not your soft
focus French bedroom frolics) and with scenes of horribly sadistic violence.
(Not fine with me. I looked away several times in disgust.) I'm not giving 
too much away if I say that there is a happy ending of a sort, if you 
watch very closely. I liked the happy ending, but it is brief and almost
seems like a token tacked on at the end of a movie full of a LOT of stress 
and unhappiness.  In fact, the ending is justified only if you mentally add 
into the movie all of the events shown in the TV series.

***************************************************************************
Johnny Battle
Newsgroups: pdx.movies