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From: russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:03:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: wpg.Bw4np9.Ct1
Organization: WP Group


In article <Bw2sFw.KCw@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
rl> One point about popcorn that warrants consideration.  According to
rl> the USDA data, it has '0' lysine unlike corn in other forms.  I'd
rl> appreciate it if someone could explain how the popping process
rl> removes lysine so selectively.

From article <1992Oct14.143225.2447@pixel.kodak.com>, by young@serum.kodak.com:
ry> What's your point, that the USDA is lying about the composition
ry> of popcorn?  If you have better data, then by all means post it.
ry>
ry> For your information, the source of the data quoted says nothing
ry> about lysine or any other amino acid.  It is USDA Home and Garden
ry> Bulletin No. 72 (1985), as quoted in the CRC Handbook of Chemistry
ry> and Physics, 70th Edition.

Oops.  I rechecked my notes and discovered that it's tyrosine,
not lysine, that's bombed by the popping process.

Here's a listing of the essential amino acids found in popcorn:

            mg/100 grams:
Threonine        510    
Isoleucine       590    
Leucine         1670    
Lysine           375    
Phenylalan       580    
Tyrosine          0*       
Valine           660    
Methionine/      400    
Cysteine

Total Protein   12.7g /100 grams

*Cornmeal, by contrast, contains 560mg tyrosine/100g

The reason for my query, as I pointed out quite plainly, is that
I don't understand why/how a particular amino acid disappears during
the popping process.

The source of my data was a spec sheet from the USDA _Handbook 8 
Series_ (volume 20 as I recall).  The multi-volume "Handbook 8" 
publication itemizes the breakdown of all amino acids in a given 
food, as well as providing the type of simple protein summary 
that you posted previously.  

-- 
Russell Lawrence, WP Group, New Orleans (504) 443-5000
russ@wpg.com   uunet!wpg!russ
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: pjd@unislc.uucp (Priscilla Davidson)
Subject: Re: holidays
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:26:40 GMT

From article <1992Oct7.134236.12436@chpc.utexas.edu>, by jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd):
> 
> I plan on baking this year, but I'm going to try all the fat-free
> or low-fat variations I can find.
> (someone else told me you can use stewed prunes, but 
> what kind of a durn fool would want to do that?) instead of butter or 

Hey!  I happen to _like_ prunes!  (Yeah, yeah, I know I'm probably the
only one . . . .)

The most recent issue of either COOKING LIGHT or EATING WELL, I forget 
which, had an article on cooking goodies and substituting prunes for the
fat -- supposedly better results than with applesauce.  I don't recall that
you had to stew the prunes first -- just stick them in a blender with some
water.  And supposedly you can't tell the difference between a cookie made
with prunes, and one made with evil fat :-)

If I get some time this weekend or next, I will try one of the prune 
cookies and post my results.
From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Walkers
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:20:31 GMT
Organization: Titan Linkabit
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

peggys@orca.wv.tek.com wrote:
> Now that I have made the commitment to get my exercise by walking I have a
> couple of questions to all you walkers out there.  What do you do to stay
> motivated and look forward to your walks.  I have my walkman and music and I've
> had people recommend audio books.  Anyone do anything unique or different that
> they've found keeps them going?

I'm lucky.  I work in Torrey Pines, San Diego, and it's just gorgeous
to walk here.  My motivation to walk is that I enjoy it so completely.
For some reason, I get real creative and comtemplative when I walk.  
Sometimes whole silly poems come to me, ideas for books I'd like to 
write someday.  It's just a time when I can daydream and let go
some of the stress I've accumulated.

Another motivation is that sometimes I end my walk at the deli with
the 10 calorie per ounce frozen yogurt.   :)  What a way to go!
--
Nancy P. Milligan 				npm@dale.cts.com
Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
3033 Science Park Road
San Diego, CA 92121
From: mossman@sag1.ssl.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Popping Toppings!
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:50:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: mossman@sag1.ssl.berkeley.edu ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: sag1.ssl.berkeley.edu

Hi,

   I just had to jump in on this popcorn discussion. Popcorn is my lifeblood,
I don't think I could live without it. (Okay, maybe). I use oil popped because
hot air is too dry for my taste but 4 quarts of popped corn uses only 2 tbs
of oil so I figure I'm doing okay. Anyway, I often eat popcorn FOR dinner,
not as  a snack so the calories are not much of a concern. As far as toppings,
lashings of salt is usually my favorite but if you have to cut down on that
I found that paprika is good. It's funny but it seems to make up for butter,
if you are a butter fan. (I'm not). I use hot paprike but I imagine the sweet
would be just as good. It's a nice change, gives a bit of a creamy taste. Try
it! 

Amy Mossman

P.S. My boyfriend uses sugar, yes, white table sugar. I don't understand it myself.
From: lmc@cs.cornell.edu (Linda Marie Competillo)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: WW with Steve
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:13:08 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Oct13.134508.13481@news2.cis.umn.edu> jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.071727.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>>--Sorry to add this to the net but my email bounced!  Steve, I'm really
>>interested in your proposal for email WW.  Can you give more info about
>>what/how you plan to do it?
>>
>>You can send to my email address noted below.
>> 
>>Deb
>>dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
>>
>
>Please add me to the e-mail info list as well . . .
>
>Jill


ME TOO!!!

Linda
-- 
Linda Competillo
lmc@cs.cornell.edu
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:28:23 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
Followup-To: alt.support.diet

npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan) writes:

>Anyone have any other cool ways of microwaving non-fat popcorn?

I tried it just dry in a glass container (with lid :-]).  I put a fair bit
in, and not all of it popped.  Seems to work okay though (but maybe I'm
blowing hell out of my magnotron).


--
Warwick
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From: mommaerts@medgen.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: RE: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 14 OCT 92 12:14:49 CDT

In a previous article, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) wrote:
> 
>Here's a related question:  How does one get salt to stick to air-popped
>popcorn?  I con't care about the oil, but I _do_ want the salt; it tastes
>like styrafoam without it.
> 
>Also, have any of you been successful with low-fat microwave popcorn?
> 

In college we used to get butter salt to stick by lightly spraying the
popcorn with water.. it gave the texture of butter, which is kinda what
I like...

{use a spray bottle, careful that it mists the popcorn]

I think low fat microwave popcorn is pretty good....

**Sandi**

>
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From: young@serum.kodak.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:24:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Oct13.162413.17536
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <1992Oct12.180038.217@unisup1.uucp> uugetty@unisup1.uucp writes:
>
>The Subject says it all.  What is the nutritional value of popcorn
>that is popped in a hot-air popper with no salt or butter or anything
>added?  
>
>Is popcorn a healthy snack and is it appropriate for dieting?   I have heard
>that the energy it takes to digest popcorn totally negates its caloric
>value.  Is this true?
>
>If not, what can one snack on that is very low in calories/fat?

   POPCORN, Air-popped, unsalted, 1 cup (8 grams):

	water		--> 4%
	Calories	--> 30
	protein		--> 1 gram
	fat		--> trace
	carbohydrate	--> 6 grams
	calcium		--> 1 mg.
	phosphorus	--> 22 mg.
	iron		--> 0.2 mg.
	potassium	--> 20 mg.
	sodium		--> trace
	vitamin A	--> 10 I.U.
	thiamine	--> 0.03 mg.
	riboflavin	--> 0.01 mg.

   [taken from USDA data]


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker)
Subject: Re WW
Summary: Steve, Bouncing mail 
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:33:21 GMT

Steve,

	I got your reply to my response re your WW class, but now my mail

is bouncing.  could you please send to me again so that I can try to

get your address again.

Liana

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,sci.med.nutrition
From: jones@decatur.Stanford.EDU (Caren Jones)
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 22:04:09 GMT

In article <Bw4np9.Ct1@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
>
>The reason for my query, as I pointed out quite plainly, is that
>I don't understand why/how a particular amino acid disappears during
>the popping process.


Different kinds of corn are used for different purposes - sweet
corn is different from popping corn is different from field corn (etc).
Maybe that's the real cause.  (I don't know, but it seems a better
theory than the popping process itself.)

caren



Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: mprisco@lynx.cat.syr.edu ()
Subject: Re: NordicTrack
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 11:46:01 EDT

In article <1992Oct8.134212.18231@news.ysu.edu> af080@yfn.ysu.edu (Gary Nicklas) writes:
>
>Fellow newsgroupers:
>
>I'm thinking of getting a NordicTrack cross country ski machine to augment my
>walking program and to have an indoor alternative during the winter.
>
>Do any of you have experience with these things?  Are they as good as the ads
>would have you think?  Are they really that great at promoting weight loss?
>Are they less than incredibly boring (to me indoor cycling is incredibly
>boring).  :)
>
>Also, there are several models ranging from $300 to $1300.  Are they
>mechanically pretty much the same?  Will one last as long as the other?
>
>Well, enough questions.  Thanks.
>
>Gary
>~

Well, I don't own one but my aunt does.  After I turned her on
to Covert Bailey, she uses her Nordictrack every day.  She has
lost over 70 lbs.  She watches TV (cooking shows!!)  while she's
on it.

Becuase she was quite heavy, she got one of the top of
the line models (feeling that it would be less likely to
break due to weight) and it is really nice.  I don't know
how the cheaper ones are.  

I like it becuase it's a challenge for me to so both the
arms and the legs without falling on my face.  This keeps
it interesting.  But the part I don't like is that because
I can't do both the arms and legs I use the handles they
have to lean on (instead of doing the arms).  When I used
it for 15 mins my wrists hurt!  So if you're well
coordinated, it might be better...

Margot

>-- 


--
"I think we're passing through here kind of fast,
  Did you think these tracks in the dust can last? "
                                         - David Crosby
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: scotti@mtl.mit.edu (Gretchen Fuller)
Subject: Re: Walkers
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:36:29 GMT

I walk at lunchtime with a friend.  We have a specific route that
takes about 30 minutes to cover and that is about all the time
we can squeeze in because of the fact that it IS our lunch hour
and the bosses seem to think we ought to work the rest of the day.

When she was on vacation, I took a Walkman and just listened to
my favorite radio station.  By the next time she's away, I hope
to have my ham radio lisence and will take the radio with me and
chat with some folks.

My motivation started out being stark terror.  When I was diagnosed
as Type II diabetic, all I could see in my future was needles many
times a day if I didn't get on a routine and stay with it.  Even
though that assumption was incorrect, with my opinion of pointy
objects, it worked.  Now that I'm over the panic, I've found that
I actually notice it if I don't walk.  Also, on our route we cross
a bridge and there is a young cormorant who likes to sit on a rock
in the river near it.  It is fun to watch him most days and watch
other changes as the seasons change, a wildflower here coming into
bloom, a tree there turning bright red in the fall.  I try to find
something to observe (as in watch it change) and this seems to help
keep my interest up.  Also, I seem to stiffen up and am less 
comfortable sitting at my desk in the afternoon.  Also, I find 
that I tend to get sleepy.

Just a little crowing here...today I am wearing my first pair of
size 14 jeans since I was in high school (and that was a LONG time
ago!)  And tonight I start my first 2 week vacation since last
Christmas!  I am going to be good, I am going to be good, I am
going to be good, I am...

See you all in two weeks.

Scotti
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Please Help
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:51:27 GMT
Organization: HP Western Response Center


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From: jfrawley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Judy Frawley)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Why Is This Happening
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:01:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Syracuse University


Awhile back I posted that I was a new user.  I also posted my
unhappiness with myself because I could not seem to lose even
one pound.  I was exercising, watching what I put in my mouth,
buying only low- or no-fat products, substituting non-fat
products (like non-fat yogurt for sour cream).  In a little
over a month, I had not lost one pound.  So, I decided to ease
up on myself a little bit, put a few high-fat things in my
diet and eat what I felt like (smaller portions).  I weighed
myself last week, and I've lost three pounds ! ! !

I think I was so afraid of not putting any high-fat items in
my diet that I may have just been getting too many calories
trying to satisfy myself.  Could this be what is happening
here?

I hardly ever eat out anymore, and I've always been careful
about what I eat.  Could it be that I am just so good now
(after months of working at it) that I just KNOW what I can
eat? 

I'm stumped by this, although, I am not upset about it.  I still
have a good 25 pounds to go before I will feel real happy about
my weight, but I figure that with a weight loss of ~3 pounds a 
month, that's 36 pounds by this time next year...not too bad.
I weigh 143 now, and I feel my best at 118.  (now, 143 may not
seem too bad to some, but I was a size 7/8, 118 for a LONG, long
time before the pounds starting coming on, so it's a LOT for me.)

I will add the exercise back in gradually.  I was doing five
times a week (varying forms of aerobic exercise including
walking - fast!).

My personal life still isn't getting much better, but I have a lot
of support from my SO (he's losing weight, too, but at a much 
faster pace than I am - maybe because his eating habits were 
worse than mine to begin with?).  My ex-husband is still being
a jerk, and I'm still trying to get a divorce, BUT, I just got
a part in a musical, and I am really motivated to look good on
stage.  The show goes up on November 6th, so I'd like to lose
a few more pounds by then!

Thanks for listening....I'm interested in theories about why
I am losing weight.

Judy
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson)
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Organization: SPS
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:28:03 GMT

I wish I could rmember the exact recipe, but I heared something about
sprinkling popcorn with sugar-free butterscotch pudding (more or less)
to give it the tast of carmel corn.
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: holidays
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:31:53 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA

In <1992Oct8.103413.8233@newstand.syr.edu> mprisco@puma.cat.syr.edu writes:
>I think one day of overindulgence
>will do less damage than several days of slight overindulgence.
>This is just a feeling and I have *no* evidence that
>its true.  Any ideas on this? 

I think that "thin" people overindulge occasionally (if not regularly).
The difference between them and most perpetual dieters is that they
seem better able (perhaps because they don't have the constant guilt
trips that dieters do) to compensate when they do.

As for your question, I suspect that, depending on your personality,
several days on slight indulgence can be stretched out for a *long*
time (you know, the "well, just one more day" rationalization).  If
this is likely, then one planned day (or maybe even two or three over
the holidays) is better.

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: NordicTrack
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:39:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct8.134212.18231@news.ysu.edu> af080@yfn.ysu.edu (Gary Nicklas) writes:
>
>I'm thinking of getting a NordicTrack cross country ski machine to augment my
>walking program and to have an indoor alternative during the winter.
>
>Do any of you have experience with these things?  Are they as good as the ads
>would have you think?  Are they really that great at promoting weight loss?
>Are they less than incredibly boring (to me indoor cycling is incredibly
>boring).  :)

Me, too.

I used nordictrack for a while and really liked it.  I used our health
club's model, which was nice; I have no idea about prices and all.  I
found that it was my favorite exercise machine (over bikes, stairs,
rowing, and treadmills); I seemed to get the best overall workout with it.
I had to start light with the arms and work up to heavier weight, and it
also took me a while to get the hang of it.  One needs to be a bit patient
at first, particularly if you don't ski (I never had).

After doing nordictrack for a while, I actually went cross-country skiing
for the first time and found it very similar.  Being outdoors was much
more fun, as was actually _getting_ somewhere.  But if you don't have the
snow, the machine is a good alternative.



-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
From: geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: potatoes & congrats
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:10:52 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

Somebody asked about potatoes. You really have to try them cooked (boiled,
nuked, whatever), chilled, then thinly sliced into a salad. It reminds you
favorably, of all those fattening potato salads.

Congratulations to my heroine and diet partner, Marie, who has gone below
a significant weight. You're an inspiration!

Also, congratulations to whomever posited VLFD (Very low fat diet). I'm
considering adding it to the technical part of my resume with the other
acronyms--just to see if someone notices!

Good luck, ALL! You can do it.

Patricia
-- 
P.K.
Geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: kkr42091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (QUEEN ZENOBIA!)
Subject: JENNY Craig?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:49:53 GMT

Is there anyone here who is on Jenny Craig?
I would really like to correspond about it.... maybe sometimes even trading
for certain foods... cuz it is darn hard to get things like summer corn soup
in our jenny craig for some reason... :/ and i am getting sick of the turkey 
soup they keep on substituting.

so....
email me back if interested!

-kimberli roan
kkr42091@uxa


Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd)
Subject: Re: holidays
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing, Univ. of Texas System
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:42:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.133514.27633@newstand.syr.edu>, mprisco@lynx.cat.syr.edu () writes:
|> 
|> Well, with the weather turning colder, I've been thinking
|> about the up coming holidays.  Well, what I'm really thinking
|> about is Christmas cookies.  I'm a real cookie monster and
|> now I'm wondering if I'll be able to eat any holiday goodies
|> without going nuts!  
|> [rest deleted]

Margot,

I plan on baking this year, but I'm going to try all the fat-free
or low-fat variations I can find.  I'm going to make cookies that
have dried fruits (like dried apricots, apples and cranberries [some-
one gave me some as a gift last year]) and try to substitute or cut 
way down on the fat.  I'm going to make some quick breads and cakes 
using applesauce (someone else told me you can use stewed prunes, but 
what kind of a durn fool would want to do that?) instead of butter or 
Crisco, and I'm going to spread on them honey-sweetened yogurt cheese 
as a "frosting" (this works great, but this frosting "cracks" if not 
consumed before it dries out, but it's *WONDERFUL* when fresh; it can 
even be colored with food coloring).  I'll probably still use some nuts 
(they're FAT, remember?), but won't overdo it.

Moderation has never been a strong point of mine, so doing a lot of my 
normal baking and just assuming I'll not eat any or "just eat one" would
be a mistake for me (as well as a lie; I know I WILL eat it if it's there).

Hope everyone else will be sharing anything good they come across.

Jan

P.S.  My mother's recipe for fudge contains no fat (it uses a full can 
of evaporated milk, and I'd have to experiment to see if the evaporated
skim milk worked just as well), and the nuts are optional.  Which brings
me to that same old question that I never really have gotten a good answer
to:  how likely is it that excess calories in simple sugars will be stored
as fat?  Or can I eat as much as I want of something (I realize fudge
is a poor example here, but you get my point) as long as it's not fat?