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From: gklein@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ginamaria Klein)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: How do we redeem Shannon?
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:23:22 GMT
Organization: UB

larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:

>For whatever reasons, the power brokers at 90210 decided at some point
>this year to make us love to hate Brenda Walsh.  So we do.  The
>geniuses of yellow journalism know that most viewers don't distinguish
>between the characters on a TV show and the actors that portray them -
>hence a perfect opportunity to smear Shannen Doherty.  So they
>capitalized.  That's America.

first: thats damn well not the america i live in

second: i agree that the america we live in finds it hard to separate actors
        and characters

third: how the hell have the `power brokers' decided to make us hate brenda 
       walsh? ive heard a ton of stuff on this group about her being such a 
       bitch, but compared with who? with ahhhhndrea, who isnt enough of a 
       human let alone woman to stand up for herself without the paper to hide
       behind? kelly who in a self centered ego boost somehow goes from school
       slut to girl who cant get laid except by her best friends boyfriend? 
       donna is sweet, but damn well annoying most of the time--- the girl 
       seems to be growing up though--- perhaps shes realizing what a bunch of
       dorks she is hanging with? 

im sorry, but what did brenda ever do to derserve not only a prick of a 
boyfriend like im-so-hot-and-moody-and-the-girls-all-love-me-dylan and a best 
friend like kelly--- really, now, the girl is hot, but would _you_ trust her 
alone with your boyfriend? would you even want a backstabbing slut like that 
as a friend? ok, sure, pull up that fling in france and say look, she is just 
as bad. if you have to justify and twist everything that much to accept what
the `beautiful people' have done, just ignore this whole post. what brenda did
in france is far from good, but hell, its alot better than what dylan did.
look, if you had your choice of which one you wanted your dear one to do, which
would it be?

just my two cents.
please forgive me if its cruel.

gina
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: dheath@alfred.carleton.ca (David Heath)
Subject: How do we redeem Shannon?
Summary: How do we redeem Shannon?
Keywords: Shannon, Brenda
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:22:22 GMT

There seems to be a lot of anger out there directed towards Shannon
Doherty / Brenda Walsh.  Personally, I'm not really too sure what all 
the fuss is about but I'd like to know what can be done to rectify the
situation.  Is there ANYTHING that Ms. Doherty can do to redeem
herself at this stage?  Are we going to write her off forever?  What's
the source of the problem?  Is it the actress or the character?  What 
kind of changes in Brenda would be necessary for people to feel good 
about her again?  Are we talking about big changes or minor
adjustments?  Is it her whole persona or just the little things that 
she does?  Enquiring minds want to know...

In alt.tv.90210, someone wrote to say that Shannon was crying after she
got off stage at the awards ceremony.  I think that things have gone a
little bit too far.  In any case, I respect the fact that she could
finish her segment without breaking out in public despite the fact
that she was obviously hurt by the audience's actions.
She seems like a strong woman.


Thanks in advance,

David.

P.S.  Please be a little bit more specific than "Stop being a bitch."
in your replies.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: ridenour@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lynn Ridenour)
Subject: Re: Are you serious
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:40:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.194805.5162@cognet.ucla.edu> tmark@cognet.ucla.edu (Terence Mark) writes:
>In article <1gjgm3INN6jd@athena.sdsu.edu> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:


>
>I once knew a person (and I know there are many more) who honestly
>believed that the wrestling and story lines depicted in the
>World Wrestling Federation shows were 'real'. He could get into
>quite animated and heated discussions about whether or not the wrestlers
>were really hurting each other, whether Hulk Hogan was "really" fooling
>around with Elizabeth, mate of Randy Macho Man Savage, etc. He was
>*not* kidding, either. He was *very* funny to talk to, but the experience
>was also somewhat disturbing.
>
>It is thus with the same kind of amusement I read comments like the above.
>I *assume* that most of us would agree that professional wrestling
>is *not* realistic (maybe not a safe assumption in this group), just
>like I *assume* most of us here would agree that the situations portrayed
>in,say, Gilligan's Island are not realistic. If one was, however, to find 
>someone who *did* think these shows were realistic, would that then
>render them any *less* UN-realistic ? Or might we better conclude that  
>there was something off-center about that person's judgement ? 

Ultimately, the "reality" of a particular TV show is determined by
how well the script mimics events or situations the viewer is
familiar with from his or her own life.  Nothing you see on TV is
truly reality since everything is scripted to some extent or another.
Even live news broadcasts of "events as they unfold" are scripted
by where the cameras are placed and on what the cameraman chooses
to focus.  A lot of what was unreal about Gilligan's Island is
dependant on timing and chance.  Odds are that nobody would
perceive Gilligan's Island as reality, but there might be some
poor soul out there who's life resembles situations portrayed on
the island to the extent that that person would find it
realistic.  (Apparently, the Coast Guard got numerous calls
during the run of G.I. about seven people trapped on an island!)

I imagine your friend who takes wrestling seriously has also
purchased an electric food dehydrator, a juicer, a steam iron,
and numerous miracle stain removers.  :)  I'm wondering what
about his life would make the situations portrayed on WWF seem
familiar.

- Bob
From: flaskerud@quark2.aero.org
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210,alt.tv.90210
Subject: Re: Brenda as Elvira (was Re: Brenda on Billboard Music Awards)
Date: 11 Dec 1992 15:55 -0800
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Summary: She'll never come close to Elvira!
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In article <1992Dec11.210119.7363@leland.Stanford.EDU>, prufrock@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scot N Gibson) writes...
>In article <faubt4x@Unify.Com> sse@Unify.com (Susan Evans) writes:
>>Phil Collins announced that the next presenter would be Shannen Doherty.
>>(I didn't hear her name.)  Suddenly I saw this woman who looked like
>>Elvira.  (She really looked kind of trashy to me.  Her hair was in her
>>eyes and she was wearing a leather black halter top.)
> 
>She's been doing that Elvira thing a lot lately.  I seem to remember
>that she answered the door as Elvira on the Thanksgiving show.
> 
>>Susan
>>sse@unify.com
> 
>
   Did everyone notice how the audience "boooo-ed" Shannen??  She took 
it pretty well, but the look on her face was not too happy.

----
Cindy
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Subject: Re: AIDS ON THE SHOW
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:20:51 GMT

In article <-121292044504@college34.sas.upenn.edu> news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System) writes:
>
>I do believe they can kill off David and still have a good show.

	Hahahahaahahahaahahahahahha
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: African-American
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:09:34 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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Ann (st1y4@jane.uh.edu) wrote:
> Why would a "politically correct" person say that whites don't
> belong in Africa?  Isn't that rather racial?

Yes, but you can be as racial as you want against whites and
still be Politically Correct.  In fact it even helps!


>                                               We could say that
> "blacks" and hispanics and asians don't belong in "white"
> North America...  could we not?

DON'T EVEN THINK IT!  Thought crimes like this could lose you your
job, and if a member of one of these groups got ahold of you they could
kill you with impunity, because if the jurors at their murder trial
found them guilty, there might be a riot, and we can't have that!


Larry


Looking forward to some new episodes of 90210.
From: shindle@ocf.berkeley.edu (Richard Michael Shindle)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Nikki is Gone!?!?!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 07:20:21 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu

Ok it's late, I'm cold, drinking my Sammuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout, and
read my news today. And I see the above and I just started to laugh. It's
hilarious. I just thought I would let you know.

Mike

-- 
It's not love, it's deep seated neurosis. Don't confuse the two.
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: DECEMBER 16 EPISODE:  *SPOILERS*
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:54:34 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu


I did not find this episode that appealing.  For one thing, the
divine intervention/Christmas miracle is OLD!  At least in
It's a Wonderful Life we saw George Bailey go through real hell
first (losing all his money, everything he's worked and lived for,
and the possibility of going to jail, not to mention the fact
that he's never gotten out of the little town of Bedford Falls) and 
God does intervene and he sees what his life would have been like
without him.  He realizes how he has had a wonderful life.

Anyway, I think 90210 has EXPLOITED (and very badly I must add) one
of the truly classic films ever made.  I was nothing less than sickened
at the stupid guy playing the voice of the Angel Clarence (a poor
comparison to the original), and the miracle itself which really didn't
teach anything.  Had the truck smashed into them they could have
taught something real.  But of course that wasn't going to happen.
This show isn't intelligent enough to portray tragedy.

Yes, I will keep watching 90210 because what can I say?  I am
addicted to it.  I just think they really f*cked up here.  And they
wrote out Nikki too which sucks even more.

Interesting trivia: they showed the scene from "It's a Wonderful Life"
where the swimming pool under the floor of the gym appears.  That
floor/pool is located at West Beverly's rival school, Beverly Hills High.
:-)

William F. Tell 
UC Berkeley
glad that Ahhhhndrea is not going to Stanfurd.
From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210,alt.tv.90210
Subject: Re: DONNA FINALLY GETS HER DAY!
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:39:21 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec17.050038.6946@leland.Stanford.EDU> prufrock@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scot N Gibson) writes:
>
>I'm so happy.  Donna finally got a nice, big part.  She deserves it.


	I'm not even gonna *touch* this line.



				-Karl



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From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: 12/16/92
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:08:21 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
Distribution: world
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In article <BzEA46.M4@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes:
>
>What a great episode!


	Are you kidding? I thought it was utter trash.


	Worst episode I've seen, I think, since I started watching.


>it was what 90210 is all about.

	God, I *hope* not.


	Aside from the utterly inane (And very badly written) 'Angel'
	crap, the storyline was stupid; the whole kelly/dylan/brenda
	thing is totally unbeliveable, *and* they're copping out; 
	they're not dealing with the characters they've set up; they're
	swaping around motivations without regard for continuity. 


	Blech. Left a bad taste in my mouth.



		-Karl


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210,alt.tv.90210
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:27:01 -0500 
From: Christopher Ryan Stengel <cs4v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Favorite lines from Heathers
	<1gg2b5INNle5@athena.sdsu.edu>
	<If_vqS200iV1Q353pK@andrew.cmu.edu>


On December 13th, Larry Riedel@saturn.sdsu said:

>I also wish Brenda Walsh could look like Shannen Doherty did in this
>movie. [Heathers]

Couldn't have said it better myself.  Watch Heathers then watch 90210
Brenda has grown in some pretty non-desireable areas, namely her face.
It just looks pudgier than in Heathers.  Airbrushing in Heathers versus
reality in 90210?  Who knows, but whatever it was in Heathers versus in
90210, I wish they'd do it for 90210.

Well said, Larry!

Chris


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: grisha@athena.mit.edu (Grigory Golberg)
Subject: Re:  the video
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:47:46 GMT

In article <Bz513I.2H6@andy.bgsu.edu> crystal kile writes:

>	Yeah.  But remember that TV "realism" is never "realistic"
>
>And while we're making a list of folks who really should  show up on the
>series, let's add Jews to the list (African-Americans, Asian-Americans, 
>Latino/as, et cetera).  I think that it's really weird that the only
>nominally "Jewish" (but her mom's not, so she's "not") character on the show
>is Andrea ----but wait, I guess that the Silvers are Jewish !! 
> Until it was confirmed earlier this season that Donna's family
>was Catholic, I'd sort of assumed that they were Jewish.

O God! WHY DO YOU CARE about the races and nationalities of people on
the show. There are no blacks- okay, there may be no "diversity", but
I don't see anything wrong with the show.

And what is this politically correct speech - Af-Am?
It's just stupid.


>The one thing that will make me stop watching FOREVER (and I MEAN it) is if
>they continue to press this David-the-White-Boy-Rapper thing.  Ack!!!
>Get a clue!!!  90210 used to feature much cooler music on its soundtrack
>(The Meat Puppets performed on the first episode).  Wonder what happened?
>That Shanice tune is nice and high-school lovey, but it's BORING (sorry 
>Shanice fans).  The writers/producers had better watch their manipulations
>in this area (IMHO the 90210 S'track is pretty pathetic!!). 
>
>Just, please, let David's rap career end NOW!!!!  Or at least keep it off
>camera.  Else I'll have to start a David Must Die newsletter, something that I really do not have the time to do!!!!
>ACK!!

Now here I may or may not agree with you. What don't you like more
David singing rap on the show, or David the white guy rapping?

If it's the latter, then I am sorry, I don't know what do you want.
If it's the former, than I would agree only because I really hate rap.
(No offense to all you rap fans out there)

-GG
From: churley@warren.med.harvard.edu (Carol Hurley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: No 90210?
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:01:30 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.bh90210
Organization: Harvard Medical School

I flipped on my tv last night for my weekly dose of 90210 and there was a
Celtics game on.  I must say I was totally bummin.  When I got to work this
morning I said to a co-worker "I'm bummin, 90210 wasn't on last night" and
he said "Yes it was, it was on at 10:00." At this point I screamed "ARRGH!"
and decided to post here to find out what happened or maybe even get a tape
of it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carol Hurley
churley@warren.med.harvard.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Andrea gets into Yale!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 10:06:54 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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William F. Tell (wft@soda.berkeley.edu) wrote:
> (Larry Riedel) writes:
> >ROBERT MACKENNA (rjm1@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
> >
> >>               but I was sure she'd be rejected so she could just
> >> "happen" to wind up at the University of California (a thinly-disguised
> >> Berkeley, I think)
> >
> >Fortunately it's not.
>
> By implication, University of California without a suffix to it like
> "Santa Barbara" or "Davis" or saying UCLA, means UC-Berkeley.  The sports
> teams at Berkeley usually have the word "California" on their jerseys and the
> football team has the script "Cal" on their helmets.  

Well, the headquarters is at Berkeley, that's true, although I don't
think it really associates itself with that campus more than the others,
other than it happens to be there.  UC Berkeley is certainly referred to
as "Cal" or "California," mainly because it was the first campus
(1873?), but I've never heard anyone referring specifically to the
school at Berkeley as the unqualified "University of California."  Could
you point me to a reference (more recent than 1873 of course)?

Regardless of that, I got the impression that what Rob was referring
to was the term "California University" which has been used frequently
on the show to (almost certainly) refer to UCLA, not to UCB, and I was
saying that no they aren't talking about Berkeley, and no UCLA is
not like Berkeley.  Heck, UCLA doesn't even have a Naked Guy.


Larry
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Are you serious
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:50:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.bh90210
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Dec11.213205.1762@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>,
swiet@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) wrote:
> 
> In article <Bz3z3p.Iox@cs.vu.nl> ikuz@cs.vu.nl (Kuz I) writes:
> >
> >The only reason why I watch it is because it's the funniest show 
> >on tv now ( especially when they're trying to be serious ). 
> 
> 	Exactly the reason I watch!  Someone else understands!  :)
> I love the body language and facial expressions...they make the show...

These testimonials of bored disinterest ring about as true as
Clinton's claim that he "didn't inhale."  Yeah, right.  You watch,
or you don't watch.  If you watch, don't make no difference, honey
buns, why.  

You still watch.
From: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: music
Date: 19 Dec 1992 23:18:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
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In a previous article, rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) says:

>In article <1992Dec18.151825.3932@ultb.isc.rit.edu> djg4162@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiwill always love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaiieeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiwillalways love aaayouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiii
>
>AAAAARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!
>
>God, I'm HEARING that stupid song EVERYWHERE!  I mean EVERYWHERE!  It's
>on the RADIO!  It's on MTV!  It's on VH-1!  It's in my HEAD!  It's even
>on USENET!
>
>Does anyone else think this song sounds like Whitney has some loose
>phlegm in her throat?
>
>- Rob Mac K
>Radio Fugitive
>
>
>-- 
>*ROB Mac K - The Man, The Myth, The Legend.  As if. ***********************
>*        [}uke             1991 National Champions      "Wekickus         *
>*          Blue Devils:    1992 National Champions           Sumassus"    *
>****************************************************** rjm1@acpub.duke.edu*
>

actually, rob, yes.  and also, i think it sounds like somebody snaps her bra
strap right when she gets to "love yyy-ooooooooooooo."


							ms. linda

(rob, is it my imagination, or do you prowl the college basketball board as
well?  my, my, the diversity of interests one finds in those who prowl the
net.  i wouldn't have expected the crossover between these two groups to
be too great, but at least you're a duke fan, which makes you worthy of 
watching 90210.  please don't tell the boys on r.s.b.c. you saw me here.)
-- 
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From: st1y4@jane.uh.edu (Ann)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: African-American
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:33 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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Why would a "politically correct" person say that whites don't
belong in Africa?  Isn't that rather racial?  We could say that
"blacks" and hispanics and asians don't belong in "white"
North America...  could we not?


My thoughts...

Ann

Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (C.J.K.)
Subject: Re: Dylan/AIDS and ET Report
Reply-To: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com
Organization: Not very organized
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:32:32 GMT

Jayne M Cubilla <jcubilla@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

>This whole thing about AIDS and Dylan brings to mind the story line on "Life 
>Goes On" with Becca's boyfriend.  What's the latest?  He has it, or he doesn't?
>
Yes he does.  Is this his 3rd season on the show while having AIDS?  I'm
not sure why people think that Dylan need be killed off so quickly if
he were to be HIV+ or have AIDS.


Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: are they serious?
Reply-To: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:37:55 GMT

Hey Neal Cohen!
	Any idea when "Class of '96" is going to finally air? I thought
it was going to be on in October. At this rate they won't graduate until
'97!......unless of course it's a good show, which I hear it is. 

To everyone else: didn't watch last night and Thank God! Fine, a little
cheese is good in a person's life, but from what I heard about it, the
episode resembled rotted, three month old cheese. Glad that Nicki's gone,
but Steve's departure would be the ultimate holiday gift. Sorry Andrea
is going to Yale. She sure missed out on waiting for Brandeis. Would have
enjoyed it if Kelly ever came to visit.  Check y'all later!
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