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From: xue@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Financial Aid in Some Universities?
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:11:32 GMT

Hi, 
I am very anxious to know the information on or possibility of getting 
financial aid from the departments of the following universities. 
I will appreciate it if you can provide the information. 

1. State University of New York at Buffalo
   Department of Civil Engineering

2. University of Illinois at Urbana-Chanpaign
   Department of Civil Engineering

3. The University of Rhode Island
   Department of Ocean Engineering

Zhiming
U. of Massachusetts
School of Management
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Vegetables and History
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:06:02 GMT
    <1992Nov19.191736.2899@rigel.econ.uga.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

>In article <9210177220.AA72202@> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya) writes:
>> 
>>    "Food, only food, is the true driving force for developing history."
>>                                                        
>>                                                             -- Tu Ya 

No, another thing is also important. "___, ___ xing4 yie3."
From: liujie@research.CS.ORST.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: [News] China's first supercomputer
Keywords: supercomputer, China
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:33:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1erpokINN8th
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: shale.cs.orst.edu


Nov 23  20 lns
Chinese Engineers Unveil the Country's First Supercomputer
  Beijing, China -- China's first supercomputer was powered up late last week
after five years of development on a shoestring budget of about $10 million,
according to Reuters.
  Called Milky Way II, the supercomputer was developed by a team of engineers
at the National Defence Science and Technology University in Changsha, Hunan
province. Officials said it will have "wide applications," but did not give
details.
  "China has made a big leap forward in developing high-performance
computers," Xinhua news agency said on Friday.
  Milky Way II reportedly is capable of processing one billion bits per
second.
  "This computer reduces the gap between China and the other nations with
advanced world-class technology," the official People's Daily stated. "This
computer has special significance in developing our economy, science and
state security."
  Jubilant Chinese leaders had sent the scientists congratulatory telegrams,
it added.
  The $10 million budget compares with the $100 million needed to develop
similar supercomputers elsewhere in the world, it added.



Copyright 1992 by HPCwire. All rights reserved.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: crs5@quads.uchicago.edu (charles robert stone jr)
Subject: Re: Info about the Prof. whose tenure was denied...
Reply-To: crs5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:33:50 GMT

In article <92328.122433JXL124@psuvm.psu.edu> <JXL124@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>First make sure that it is indeed a racial problem.  Avoid using " we believe
>that...".  Luo

Agreed. One may also wish to review this person's publications. This is
how such decisions are usually reached.
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From: ma@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: Chinese character simplification, is it now necessary?
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:12:09 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov20.184501.14317@athena.mit.edu>, joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) writes:
> 
> Actually, I'd like to see some controlled study on this, because it's
> not clear to me that this is the case.  For example, in FanTiZi, the
> radical for speech "yan" looks exactly like the word "yan."  So you
> only need to remember one thing.  With JianTiZi, you need to remember
> two things because the parts are different.
> 
An single example is not convincing. Here is counterexample, the insect
"chong2". Don't you think one piece of the identical three is enough?
Besides, you don't need to remember two things (a character and a radical)
in this case in JianTiZi.
(some deleted)
> not a barrier to a high literacy rate.  Even the Mainland has a much
> higher literacy rate than India which uses phonetic systems (75%
> versus 40%).  If one wants to increase literacy, I think that it's
> better to direct one's efforts at building more schools than in changing
> the character system.
> 
Good point! How about building more schools AND making the language easy
to learn

Ma
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jinxiong@cs.ucf.edu (Chen Jinxiong)
Subject: Re: Shannon Yeh Project, Please READ !!
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:45:41 GMT

In article <xtian.722072434@cs1.bradley.edu> xtian@cs1.bradley.edu (Xiaoling Tian) writes:
>In <BxvMp7.9MI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> root@netix.com (root@netix.com) writes:
>
>>Apologies from the Shannon Project, Super Computing Center of UCI.
>>Dear netters,
>
>
>It is a joke made by Mr.Shannon Yeh. Also it can see he is system               administrator of machine netix.com so he can use root account and also
>he can create an account with any name in this machine.
>
>Don't fooled by the sham root or supervisor. He is only a superuser in his
>machine netix.com maybe not at all. Do you all still rember we seen Deng
>Xiaoping in SCC before ? They abuse their computers.



	Common mann, give Shannon a stair to step down. 
Can't you see the fear and guilty ? Just see this as an 
appology to Mr Duan Yong. Shannon went too far on that
issue really.

	I hope Mr. Duan Yong will tell us when the Court 
listening is and what is the result.



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From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Movies/Videos Are Garbages
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:53:14 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1ebkfiINNgqd@csgo.usc.edu> gangz@csgo.usc.edu (Gang Zhou) writes:
>In article <92321.215727U21885@uicvm.uic.edu> Zhong Hau <U21885@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>  How about videos : The Story at The Editorial Board
>>                   : Ke3 Wan4  (Yearning )
>>                   : Wei2 Chen2  (Besieged city)
>>
>
>All garbages.
>Even worse than the soap opera garbages like "Dallas", etc.
>
Would you be kind enough to show us what are the non-garbages movies or
videos. (either chinese or western, seriously)

Tingli Pan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: chenx@cua.edu
Subject: Re: Right-to-own vs. Right-to-use  (About HK 1997)
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:06:23 GMT

In article <2B0C1E58.2838@news.service.uci.edu>, yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:
> After 1997, Right-to-use Hongkong belongs to Hongkong people and other
> Chinese people; Right-to-own Hongkong belongs to the Chinese people and
> the then-time Chinese government.  Although I do not participate any
> decision making, I am sure that if the Hongkong people go too far beyond
> this line, they will become refugees, too.  Let's assume that the then-time
> Chinese government decide to be "soft", but would those like Shannon Yeh 
> let that government go easily?  Yeh believes that, Hongkong not only needs
> to comply with the JiBenFa, they also need to comply with the laws of 
> China, otherwise, how could Hongkong be part of China?  Hongkong's defense
> should be taken care of by Beijing, too.
> 
> Same thing goes to Taiwan.  Option for military resoluation between China and 
> Taiwan should remain in place until Taiwan unconditionaly becomes a real 
> province of China.  Some Beijing officials may use their power to make some
> money from the Taiwan people, but that's the upper limit.  If they go beyond
> that limit, they will lose their power, too.
> 
> sy

I am not an expert on the Constitution, but from begining, I am doubt about the
theory of the "One Country, Two Systems".  What does it talk about?
I know what the CG leader wanted.  If you keep political silent, I will not
do anything; otherwise, you are against law.  But, what is law?

What is called the Basic Law?  It is above the other laws, but under the
Constitution.  But,  it is ridiculous that there are some basic conflicts
between the Constitution and the Basic Law.  If the Basic law is legal, there
are only two explainations: 1. the Chinese Constitution needs to be modified;
2. HongKong is another country.   The conflicts of the Constitution and the
HongKong Basic Law can only produce some one above the law.

It is well known that CG is criticizing the democratic reform of the current
HongKong Governer Patten.  It is a prelude of a series of conflicts.  We will
see what will happen in the future. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xu@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Yao Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: H4 problem
Keywords: H4 problem
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:44:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: bert.1992Nov16.174426.8957
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago


   My wife and I are on H4 and H1 status, want to bring our 
   daughter in to visit us. 

   What kind of documents needed ? 

   If my wife goes back to bring her in, should my wife apply 
   for H4 again ? 


   Thanks a lot 


   Yao 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha)
Subject: Re: Political Prostitutes or Democractic Activitists  ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:47:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.031407.21695@marlin.jcu.edu.au> phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Su Jianfeng) writes:
>
>We can only determine whether or not we are hurt by CMFN, but we can not
>determine whether or not people in China are hurt by that.  But at least, based 
>on my judgement and interest, those so-called democratic activitists, who
>promote CMFN, are political prostitutes.   What I am doing here is to
>raise the question and let everyone, who is interested in, make his own
>judgement.   If majority of CSSers on this net think they are political 
>prostitutes, it means that they are treated as political prostitutes
>other than democratic activities on this net.  If majority of Chinese
>people think that the CMFN promoters are political prostitutes, it thus
>means that those promoters are treated as political prostitutes in the
>Chinese society.   So, if the activities of promoting CMFN are
>continued, I will continue to raise the question above based on my point
>of view. 
>
> 
>J Su
>

No one wants to prevent you from raising the question about "political
prostitutes". I was merely trying to answer with a "No".

And I hate to be the one to tell you, but neither this net, or China is
a democracy.

Mark



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: pan@arete.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Victor Pan)
Subject: Re: dating a guy from China
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:03:30 GMT
Reply-To: tao tao
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Nov23.130308.5271@ms.uky.edu> gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li) writes:
> txt15@po.CWRU.Edu (Tao Tao) writes:
> 
> 
> >Maybe this guy just wants to have sex to satisfy his hatural desire.
> 
> >Tao
> >-- 
> >p
> 
> Now I made up my last decision that this Tao is a lady.
> Anyone correct me? if I am wrong.

      yeah,  smart guy,  how did you figure that out?
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From: XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: BEPC (Re: What do we Chinese celebrate? (Re: Chinese, Are You Jeal
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:46:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92320.174653XXX100
 <Bxop5G.KGF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <BxrxKI.LCw@cs.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University


 >From: jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu)
 >Subject: BEPC (Re: What do we Chinese celebrate? (Re: Chinese, Are You
Jealous?)
 >Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:14:41 GMT
 >
 >In article <Bxop5G.KGF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(xiao-lin li) writes:
 >>In article <Bxnv84.54n@cs.psu.edu> jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu) writes:
 >>>We celebrate the fruitful works in Beijing Electron-Positron Collider.
 >>
 >>I really doubt if this worth celebrating. My knowledge is that
 >>this project cost hugh amount of money, but nothing comes out meaningful.

                     This project has been controversial for many
                     years.
                     Deng Da Ren (BEPC people's nick call) gave the
                     instruction. Everyone around the country had to
                     support it.Anyway the money had to be spent.
                     What you would get was another topic.

 >
 >BEPC is a well-designed machine. The experence of its implementation tells us
 >how a country with limited money to develop sciences.
 >
 >(1) In high energy physics, energy is a dimension poeple want to push up.
 >But pushing up energy costs a lot of money. However energy is not the
 >only dimension demand. At least two other dimensions exists,
 >i.e., luminosity and measurement resolution.
 >BEPC is not very high in energy, but has luminosity and its detector
 >has a good resolution. So BEPC's design found the correct direction.

                    It's hard to keep both energy and luminosity high.
                    The detector system was another version of the
                    SLAC.
                    Not understood "the correct direction".
                    Could you explain a little more?


 >
 >(2) BEPC is a multi-purpose machine. It is also a sychrotron light source,
 >which is an important tool for many studies and very-large-scale-integrate-
 >circuit development.
 >

                    Now seems the by-product is becoming main product.
                    And the light source could be  obtained w/ a fraction
                    of the spend.

                    Anyway, to have or not to have, it's a problem.

                    X Xu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:19:04 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The capital city is to be changed

 >From: 88p8337@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
 >Subject: Re: The capital city is to be changed
 >Date: 18 Nov 92 15:53:24 +1000
 >
 >In article <101548@bu.edu>, pi@spica.bu.edu (GARMARHARD) writes:
 >
 >>       The best way to rather uniformly develop China is
 >>       to change the capital city once in 5 years.
 >
 >
 >   Gee, how about puting the capital and the excutive committee on
 >an aircraft carrier which continuously visits all ports around the
 >world.
 >

                Yeah. Never say the best and the worst.


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From: wshi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Weiping Shi)
Subject: Re: Tibet move toward opening to foreign tourists
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:03:06 GMT

In <1992Nov23.225205.22489@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:

>Anyways, reopening tourism will help the Tibetan economy and liberalize the
>treatment of Tibetan minorities.  It should help the economy and image of
>China, and be an interesting travel opportunity for foreigners-
>in other words good for everybody all around.

I am sure it will help the economy, but 
I am not sure whether China will get a better image.
Don't expect visitors can make the world understand
Tibet better. Things can be stirred up easily.
Then there will be another martial law in Tibet.
KMT ruled Taiwan in martial law for 40 years,
why CCP has to follow the "new thinking" and
"opening up" in such a hurry at such a complicated region?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Su Jianfeng)
Subject: Re: ------- IFCSS's Letter to Hong Kong????? -------
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 03:26:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.231522.25347@fcom.cc.utah.edu> jli@jordan.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes:
>
>	IFCSS issued a letter to HK Governor in the name of all Chinese
>Students and Scholars in US.  IFCSS supported HK Governor and expressed
>opinions against Chinese government on the issue of HK's future. My question
>is not IFCSS's opinions are right or wrong but:
>
>1.  When IFCSS represents me, can they tell me where the Chinese government
>    and HK's Governor stand on the issue before making such a declaration?

No comment.
>
>2.  Can IFCSS be more NON-POLITICAL and focus more on the direct benefits of
>    Chinese Students and Scholars in US?  Such actions by IFCSS can only
>    make IFCSS officials more famous and willn't do a damn thing on us.

This question has been mentioned several times on the net already.  But
I think this expectation is too high.  You can not expect others to
work voluntarily for your benefits.   

I believe the purpose of the persons who work in IFCSS is to use 
IFCSS as the stepping-stone for starting their political careers
Thus, it is impossible for IFCSS to become a non-political 
organisation.

 

J Su

>
>JLI
>================================================================================
>      	 	       ******* RULES OF LIFE ******* 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>	     RULE NO. 1:  YOUR BOSS IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
>	     RULE NO. 2:  IF YOUR BOSS IS WRONG, GO TO RULE NO. 1.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>        JLI@MINES.UTAH.EDU (Jianliang Li)    PENN STATE '90  UTAH '2000
>================================================================================
From: haoc@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Last call! Catch the train? Re:PRC wants to abrogate Joing Declaraton o
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:00:23 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov19.083756.19372@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>, wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng) writes:
>  
> Sorry, the foreigner U.K. cares about our well-being (to some extent),
> whereas the gangster group that now controls our motherland does
> not. 
    It's ashame of you that you still call China your motherland. I'm afraid
you live at a wrong time. You would feel much more comfortable if you lived
in those "golden old days" when you feel privilaged as you walk the dog
for you foreign master.

> It would rather let HK go down the drain than let it have
> more democracy.
   
    How much democracy do you have now in Hong Kong, do you have a say who be
the governor?
    Too bad you don't, otherwise you might have made a better choice than John
Major did.

>  
> Of course, more proof is really not needed, that gangster group
> perpetrated 6.4, right in its own capital.
>
   Yeh right, here goes the " Universal Linkage" again, but let's just cut
the shit, Britain is going hopelessly downwards, but China is the rising
dragon, (The World Bank predict that China will be the 3rd largest economy in
the world by the end of this century), so catch the train or not, your choice.

-Hao
    
*******************************************************************************
'cause tomorrow may rain, so I'll follow the sun ..............................
********************************************************************************
From: xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu (XiaoFei Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: [ answer ] How is IFCSS's president elected?
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:48:19 GMT
Organization: UB

/* chen@digital.sps.mot.com (Jinfu Chen) wrote */:
* You've got it almost right.  However, voters vote for electors who have
* pledged to certain presidential candidates.  The ommision of this fact makes
* main difference than the IFCSS election.
* 
Actually that is not true. The have been efforts to bind the electors
with the candidates but the court ruled that being illegal. 

There have been case that the electors vote on their own. For example,
electors can vote for Perot or Marrou if they want. Nothing prevent them
from doing so. This is exact the same for IFCSS election. 

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From: smp@sun4.ee.ncku.edu.tw (Shine-Ming.Prong)
Subject: Re: When was lantern (Deng1 Long3) invented?
Organization: N.C.K.U. E.E. COMPUTER GROUP
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:30:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.070640.15060@news.columbia.edu> hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:

>A question for the historian:  When was lantern (Deng1 Long3) invented?
>    I recently noticed that candles (Zhu2) were used even outdoors at night
>    in literatures written in the Han4 and Tang2 Dynasties.  I assume it
>    must be invented after Tang2 Dynasty then.

>Examples:   (Ping-in with word-for-word translation below to assist reading)

>1.     Ri4 Duan3     Ku3      Ye4 Chang2,   He2 Bu4  Bing3   Zhu2   You2.
>        |    |       /\        |     |       |   |     |     |       |
>       Day short sour(suffer) night long,   why not hold-up candle travel.

>2.     Ri4 Mu4     Han4            Gong1 Chuan2 La4 Zhu,
>        |   |      /  \              |     |      \ /
>       Day dusk Han4 (the dynasty) palace pass   candle

>       Qing1 Yan1    San4   Ru4  Wu3   Hou2   Jia1.
>         |     |       |     |    |     |      |
>       Light smoke disperse into five marquis home.

>Tnx & cheers,
>--
>Harry Xu (KB2LHA)      "Hell has no terrors for pagans."  --Arthur Rimbaud

     The lantern was invented in ancient China.Many teashops also used in 
Taiwan.They seem along  Tang2 dynasty fashion.In addition to,China or
Taiwan has many holidays which take the lantern to celebrate,such as Chinese
lunation in 15 January(called lantern holiday),in whole July.
     Are you interesting in Chinese culture.It's vey great.You will learn
many funny in it.
 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: phung@attmail.com
Subject: The Art of Singing in Cantonese Opera
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"From Speech to Song: The Art of Singing in Cantonese Opera"
------------------------------------------------------------

sponsored by:  Music From China

Speaker:       Prof. Bell Yung
               Music Dept.
               Univ. of Pittsburgh

Date:          Nov. 21 (Sat), 2:30 PM

Locaton:       Chatham Square Regional Library
               33 East Broadway
               New York City

Free Admission

Prof. Yung talks on the variety of techiques & styles of "speaking" (BAAK)
and "singing" (CHEUNG) used by Cantonese opera performers. Some, such as
plain BAAK, sounds almost identical to ordinary speech. Others make use of
rhyming schemes & phrase length patterns for the text, as well as special
rhythmics & tonal patterns for the melody. A spectrum of the various modes
of aural commucation ranging from "speech" to "song" demostrates the rich
variety of the art of singing in Cantonese opera.

Examples of BAAK & CHEUNG are demostrated by actress Lau Ying Chiu of the
Guangzhou Cantonese Opera Company with musical accompaniment.

*this event is mode possible with public funds from the Noational Endowment
for the Arts, New York State Council on the Arts, & NYC Dept. of Cultual
Affairs.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan