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From: MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bands and labels you may have never heard of...
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:18:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92100.171822MURPH
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <1992Apr3.205356.1607@cmcl2.nyu.edu>, olsonr@acf3.nyu.edu (Ron the Carboard Box) says:
>
>I was going through my CD collection and decided to post some of these
>groups to see if they strike any chords in people other than myself. A
>
I've heard of all but a couple of the groups you mentioned.  I have
recordings by most of them.

>Uncle Green - What an Experiment his Head Was
>(DB Recs)
>
>The JayHawks - Blue Earth
>(Twin Tone)
>

I have reviews of each of the above albums available if anyone's
interested.


>Jody Grind - One Man's Trash is Another Man's Treasure
>(DB Recs)
>

Their new album _Lefty's Deciever_ arrived in today's mail.
I've been listening to it for the last 30-40 minutes or so.
On first listen it seems a little more straightforward and
consistent than _One Man's Trash..._.  It doesn't have as many
distinct styles, though there are some stylistic shifts towards
the end of the album.  The first few tracks remind me a little
of some of Suzanne Vega's work.
-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
From: ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: THE BATS
Keywords: surfing, herion, ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:22:48 GMT
Organization: Nancy Kerrigan Fan Club

In article <1992Apr10.235158.18326@u.washington.edu> naas@milton.u.washington.edu (Jodi Naas) writes:

>user. To all Australians and others--what can you tell me
>about THE BATS? Have they ever toured? Will they tour (the US
>         I mean....) What are the names and dates of any 
>albums they have released? What do we know about the band 
>itself?

The Bats are from New Zealand (not Australia) and have been together
since about 1983, more or less.  The singer, Robert Scott, used to
be the bass player for the seminal Kiwi band The Clean from about
1979 to 1981 or thereabouts (all dates are approximate).  The Bats
have put out quite a few records, all of them on the legendary New
Zealand record label Flying Nun.

*By NIght* EP, NZ Flying Nun, 1984
*"And Here Is `Music for the Fireside'!" EP, NZ Flying Nun, 1985
*Made Up In Blue* EP, NZ Flying Nun, 1986
*Compiletely Bats* LP, NZ Flying Nun, 1987
*Daddy's Highway* LP, NZ Flying Nun/US Communion, 1988
*Four Songs* EP, NZ Flying Nun, 1988
*The Law of Things* LP, NZ Flying Nun/US Communion, 1990
*Fear of God* LP, NZ Flying Nun, 1991

The *Four Songs* EP appears on the US CD of *Daddy's Highway*; the
*Compiletely Bats* album contains all of *Music for the Fireside*
and *Made Up In Blue*, and all but one song of *By Night*.

The band consists of Robert Scott on rhythm guitar and vocals, Kaye
Woodward on lead guitar and vocals, Paul Kean on bass, and Malcolm
Grant on drums and percussion, more or less; some songs also contain
contributions on violin by Alastair Galbraith.  Friends of mine in
New Zealand say they put on one of the best shows of any group from
that country.  There are rumors of an upcoming US tour, but I
haven't heard anything definite yet.

There has been an ongoing discussion of things Kiwi, including the
Bats, in rec.music.misc for a couple of months.
-- 
Ralph Brandi     ralph@mtunp.att.com     att!mtunp!ralph

If we put our noses to the grindstone and our shoulders to the wheel,
we'll have our backs against the wall in no time.
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From: d1wizo@dtek.chalmers.se (Ola Lundkvist)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Curve Tour
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:56:06 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

ppennane@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Petrus Pennanen) writes:

>Does anyone know if Curve is going to play in Copenhagen or Sweden this
>spring?
Yes I know they're playing here in Sweden at least. Gothenburg on April 24th
and then in Stockholm on 25th or 26th (I've forgotten which date for
this venue).
I think I can get you a phone number if you want to order a ticket, if
so send me a mail.

-- 
Ola Lundkvist              |   "The two worst inventions of humankind
d1wizo@dtek.chalmers.se    |    are religion and politics" -WJ
--
Ola Lundkvist              |   "The two worst inventions of humankind
d1wizo@dtek.chalmers.se    |    are religion and politics" -WJ
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ac@apmaths.uwo.ca (alka chandna)
Subject: diamanda galas tour
Organization: Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:55:45 GMT

I have tickets for Diamanda Galas' performance in Toronto on April 27th, and 
am trying to get a sense of what the performance will be like.  The piece 
which most enamoured me to Galas was Plague Mass, but I've heard that the 
latest album is a tribute to blues and jazz music.  Trying to imagine the 
kind of vitriolic, abrasive theatrics of Plague Mass in concert with jazz/
blues music is more than my imagination can handle.  Has anyone seen a show 
from this latest tour????
Thanks,
alka
From: woj@romulus.rutgers.edu (voy toy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Boston bands: Tribe
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:50:11 GMT
Organization: the wonderful world of muzak

fmh6h@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Fredrick Morgan Holt) writes:
>Another cool band to come out of Boston recently is called _Tribe_.  

not that recently - their first release was a four song ep that came out
in 1988 if memory serves (at least it was sometime in the last few years 
of the 80s). it's on rutabaga records and nigh impossible to find, but
well worth the effort since it has a much better mix of "abort" (the song
that is) than that which appears on _abort_ (the album).

they are stunning live, or so i am told. they're touring the east coast
this month, keep your eyes open for them.
-- 
woj - frimmin on the jim jam froppin at the krotz - no, *he's* dennis
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Musical Intelligence (Was: Alternative radio stations)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:49:36 GMT

mbutler@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (M. COOPER / B. McQUAID) writes:

>-" >	Yes, because they weren't the original composers of the
>-" >songs, and therefore, the songs are not genuine emotional state-
>-" >ments. 

I responded:

>-" Fascinating.  Your principles are so firmly held that you're willing to 
>-" write off all but a tiny slice of the history of music.

Milo again:

>	What "all but"?  You gave me three examples. 

Surely, Milo, even you recognized those examples as representative of 
venerable traditions.  Throughout the histories of jazz, popular song, folk
music and what we today term "classical" music interpretation has been
counted as *at least* as important a component of musical expression as 
composition.  And that's just music of the Western tradition.  The 
singer-songwriter mode of expression rose to importance about thirty years
ago.  Thirty years among millennia of music is indeed a "tiny slice".

>	I've heard music by Sarah Vaughn, yes.  Not a lot, but like
>I said, I recognize her submissions as a Jazz vocalist.  Am I
>somehow not allowed to prefer Elizabeth Fraser over her?

This doesn't have a thing to do with your tastes, rather it concerns your
sweeping pronouncements about the nature of musical expression and
appreciation.  If you had stated these in terms of your likes and dislikes
no one - I least of all - would have blinked.  Instead you chose to take
your preferences as a way to describe "musical intelligence" and to sweep
away whole traditions of musical performance as "rubbish".

-- Clay
From: curry@mtechca.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Stone Roses
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:21:12 GMT
Organization: MAINTECH, A division of Volt Delta Resources, Inc. Orange, CA

In article <43031@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, tomservo@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Frey) writes:
> So whatever happened to the Stone Roses?  I know of their court battle:
> They win the suit against their old record company and had been 
> recording many, many songs that they couldn`t release during this time,
> due to legalities or something.  The last thing they came out with was
> "One Love," but that was almost two years ago.  Last I heard they had
> planned to release a double album.  So does anyone know what`s to become
> of Manchester`s only decent band left?
> 
> Please reply to rutzje@vm.cc.purdue.edu.  I`m on a friend`s account.
> 
> *************************************************************************
> * "Manchester, so much talent!" - Ned`s Atomic Dustbin                  *
> * "...the wicked lies and all the SHITE you say" - The Wonder Stuff     *
> *                                                                       *
> * Jeremy Rutz         Purdue University        rutzje@vm.cc.purdue.edu  *
> *************************************************************************
> 
>     
> :wq
> -

The last thing that I read was that they had signed a deal with Geffen and an
album was due out this spring....   Well,  spring is here and no new Stone
Roses.  




 - rc -
  
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From: wwn8108@tamsun.tamu.edu (Weldon Nash)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: when are the SUGARCUBES playing TORONTO?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:33:19 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

Likewise, does anybody know when or if they will be in the Dallas or Houston
Areas?

				-Trey

wwn8108@tamsun.tamu.edu
Electrical Engineering Dept.
Texas A&M University
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:2723 rec.music.misc:13560 rec.music.industrial:4952
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Beatservice top 10 for March
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:01:52 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway

Here's my top 10 for march.
Enjoy.

Vidar


 1 ORBITAL Mutations  CDS (FFRR)
 2 X10 FEATURING TEC TRANCE -  CD (Antler Subway)
 3 PANKOW Stupidity  12" (Contempo)
 4 YOUNG GODS TV Sky  LP (Play It Again Sam)
 5 SOLAR ENEMY Dirty Vs Universe  CD (Third Mind)
 6 ATTRITION A Thin Red Line  CDS (Contempo)
 7 ART OF NOISE Instruments Of Darkness  CDS (China Records)
 8 KMFDM Vogue  CDS (Transglobal)
 9 MC 900 FT JESUS The City Sleeps  12" (Nettwerk Europe)
10 BORGHESIA Dreamers In Colour  CD (Play It Again Sam) 

			   BEATSERVICE 
			  fridays 20.00 
			    fm 105.6
			The Student Radio
			 Tromsoe, Norway

-- 
     __  __
     \ \/ /          ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////
      \  /          // Vidar Hanssen  University Of Tromsoe, Norway ///////
       \/          // Email: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no  Phone: +47 83 44032 //
control, I'm here ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: sac@newt.phys.unsw.oz.au 
Subject: Re: nirvana
Keywords: attitude
Reply-To: sac@newt.phys.unsw.oz.au 
Organization: School of Physics / UNSW
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:37:06 GMT



    There has been a huge amount of publicity aimed at Nirvana for obvious
    reasons over the past six months.  While I think that Nevermind is
fantastic,
    I feel the need to say that I think Nirvana have a serious attitude
problem.
    After reading on this newsgroup that Nirvana weren't playing Teen
Spirit
    at their gigs this view was pretty much confirmed.

    Firstly, I don't believe Teen Spirit is the best song on the album. Lithium
    HAS to be (with a chorus of simply "yeah" how could you go wrong?).
    Also "Come As You Are" is very good. 
    Just because one song goes to number one doesn't detract from the song,
    how could it? I see no reason for them not to play it at there gigs.
For them
    not to accept the fact that they are a success (and I guess talented
as well)
    is THEIR problem. Not the fans who liked the song and picked up on
it.

    I read an interesting letter to Rolling Stone recently, the person
who wrote
    the letter said that Nirvana's attitude to people was:

    "If you don't like our music, f**k you,
     If you do like our music, well f**k you too."

     This is actually pretty accurate. However the person who wrote the letter
     said he liked this attitude. I find it a very hard attitude to like.
     I'll go as far as to say that Nirvana (in particular Kurt) have a problem.
     And a pretty big one at that.


////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
////////////
Simon Cannons, University of N.S.W.                          |
--where the hell is that new New Order album???--  |
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cs348a67@ibma5.cs.uiuc.edu (Maurice David Mattis)
Subject: lush lyrics
Keywords: lyrics, lush
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:43:25 GMT

hello all,

i'm looking for any lyrics that anyone can get me from any of lush's
albums.  i already have the lyrics to 'nothing natural' off of the 
single, so if that's all you've got, then it's not what i'm looking
for.  You may want to post it to the net for anyone that is interested,
or i can do it later...


--maurice 'cheeks' mattis
cs348a67@ibma0.cs.uiuc.edu (boring cs aix account)
mdm31793@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (cramped for space account)
mdm31793@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
"don't you know you're beautiful"
From: julie@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Julie Lucast)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: run westy run\
Keywords: run westy run
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:50:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr9.145010.1187
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: CIS

In <44560@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jasdzews@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary James Jasdzewski) writes:

>Anyone ever see Run Westy Run live?  Good shows (seen them 4 or 5
>times now), but their LP's are very different, like a new band.

I've seen Run Westy Run live 3 or 4 time...they really aren't one of
my favorite local bands.  I do think they are much better live than on
their LP's though, but for the most part find them to be pretty
ordinary.

>Or the Geargaddies live?

I've seen the Gear Daddies live more times than I can count...they put
on consistently excellent shows!  If you haven't picked up their
single with Little Red Corvette/The Rose/White Sport Coat, you
should....loads of fun!!!
--
  Julie Lucast                 | I want your hair        so everywhere I go
                               | to cover me with maps   will be as beautiful
  julie@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu | of new places,          as your hair.    
  ___________________________________________________________________________
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: stage diving
Date: 5 Apr 92 22:41:01 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr5.203304.12729@cis.ohio-state.edu> bohren@cypress.cis.ohio-state.edu (arthur william bohren) writes:
>
>When it comes to stage diving, I've noticed that some bands are strictly
>against their crowd diving off the stage, while others encourage or even
>participate in the activities. Here's a quick list of each category from
>my own experience, or eye-witness testimony:
>
>Against: The Violent Femmes(they walked off stage due to it)
>         The Pixies
>         Social Distortion
>
>For:     Too Much Joy(their dummer dived a number of times)
>         Fishbone
>         Body Count(guessing from the video for There Goes the Neighborhood)

I know this belongs on r-n-r.metal, but this is just such a great excerpt
(from Guitar World magazine, interview with Pantera):

	Darrell:  ... We've got a simple rule:  "Our stage is your stage".

	GW: All well and good, but what's it like playing with 20 or 30
	    people moshing and stage diving in your face?

	Darrell:  It keeps you on your toes.  I've had the headstock of
	          my guitar broken six or seven times.  All these idiots 
	          come skanking around, people are bear-huggin' me,
	          getting their bodies all over my strings, and all you
                  hear is rubbing and feedback, like a porno movie.
	          .....  Not too long ago, I got totally knocked unconscious
	          at a gig! ...... so I don't see him.  Boom!  He hits my
	          head like a Mack truck, and I get knocked cold....

	GW:  Where were the bouncers when that happened?

	Darrell:  In hell, hopefully.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: Grecomv@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Mike Greco)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Lush added to Lollapalooza
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:44:01 GMT

HEy, I just read that lush will be the opening band of seven playing
lollapalooza this year.  tour starts late june in San Fran (i think) and
will travel east and then back west ending around late august.
Personally, I think they will be the only band I'd go to see along with
J&MC of course.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: industrial music
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:52:16 +1200
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr14.164145.15313@uwm.edu>, klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Mark Bishop) writes:
> Since everyone on this newsgroup has been saying that I know nothing about
> "industrial music," maybe some of you can clear it up for me.
> 
> What makes something "industrial"?  And why is Nitzer Ebb NOT considered
> industrial music.  I have considered Nitzer Ebb true industrial music for
> about four years.
> 
> Thanks... (no flames, please)
> 
> ********************
> klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
> ********************
> 

Well I disagree with Nitzer Ebb not being industrial, listen to the
song "Let's Join the Chant" on This Total Age. The lyrics are subliminal
refering to guns, violence, amongest the sampling and other stuff that 
contribute to making an industrial song. Nitzer Ebb are a similar style 
to Front 242 which is considered an industrial band.

Suggested reading covering earlier industrial music such as Throbbing
Gristle, SPK, Cabaret Voltaire and other such performance artists is
the Research book "Industrial Culture Handbook".

-- 
Red
From: v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE CAMPBELL)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: FTP Lyrics address: ATTN: Steve Clark
Keywords: how do you send to this site? (address?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i would appreciate any info on the FTP lyrics site that you might have
like the address, how to access it, etc...

thanx

Wayne Campbell         a.k.a.        MATTMAN
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lisakd@bnr.ca (Darko Lisak)
Subject: Re: THE SWANS
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:16:50 GMT

In <pr@uk.ac.uea.sys > (Peter Roberts),
>It made an appearance on one of those INDIE TOP TEN compilation CDs - if its
>just the one track you're after. Just out of interest - I wonder how many
>cover versions of this undoubtedly fine song there are...

I remember a cover version of 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' being done by, believe it
or not, Paul Young.  I think it was a live version or something.   Has anyone heard
of any other Joy Division songs being  covered, or New Order songs for that matter?

DL
From: pazur@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (scott.m.pazur)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indigo Girls tour?
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:46:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

>Does anyone have any information about the Indigo Girls touring?  I know that
>their new album, _Rites of Passage_, is due out on April 24, and I was wonder-
>ing if they are going to go on the road in support of it.  I'm especially in-
>terested in obtaining information on Northern California dates they might be
>playing.  Thanks muchly!

I was in Chicago last week and heard an ad for an upcoming show with Matthew
Sweet as the opening act.  Sure hope he opens for them on the East coast 
too.  I saw them a couple years ago in a small hall and it was a fantastic
show.  If anyone hears of definate tour dates/places, please let me know.
I hope to be doing a little traveling over the next couple months and
maybe can catch them more than once...
From: bigstar@milton.u.washington.edu (william)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: POI DOG PONDERING: Volo Volo
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:58:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.bigstar.703378715
Organization: University of Washington

jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (CHARLES JORDAN) writes:

>From what I've read on the net and heard from a few friends, the general
>opinion on this album is that it's not that good...

>I like it A LOT.  I like it better than their other two major albums.  For
>one thing, it seems a lot less "fruity" than the other two ones.  Almost
>all their songs are about death, but they're all really light and airy.
>This album seems a little more serious.

>It is definitely different from their other albums.  This one is a lot
>more album-oriented instead of song-oriented.  The songs aren't quite as
>catchy and don't stand quite as well on their own (with a couple of excep-
>tions) but the whole album flows...  The album also sounds somehow more
>produced; a couple of the songs use "samples and turntable work," which I

		---( Much Text Deleted)----

The biggest problem I see with this album is that it demonstrates PDP's
continuing trend towards ambiguity. Starting from their early self-produced
cassettes in 1986 and continuing to the present, I feel the band has continued
to lose their initial, energetic focus.  This first came to me living in Austin
in 1989 when their 2nd Texas Hotel EP came out.  It seemed the case that as the 
band continued to grow in popularity (and in terms of resources) they spent 
more and more time in the studio experimenting with new sounds, original 
styles, etc. etc.   

This would normally seem a good thing...I LOVE diversity...but their following
based on the energetic, charismatic, appeal of their live shows was NOT based
upon their studio experiments.  This is not to say I hate the new LP.  Rather,
I just don't think it represents what they were (at one time) truly capable of.
The new LP sounds like a passable stab at some kind of worldbeat/fusion/funk
mixture.  Not bad ....just not amazing!


 One other point:   I am not unhappy with this LP just because they sound
more polished and are more popular.  For the longest time I really thought  
they had the potential to appeal to a huge audience.  I wasn't alone in this
opinion as the bidding war to sign them was apparently quite intense.

bigstar@milton.u.washington.edu
From: ra@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Starcap'n Ra)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: I have been offended. . . .
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:51:10 GMT
Organization: alternative

hansencarlaa@bvc.edu writes:
> Suddenly everyone wants to talk about that "cool Red Hot Chili Peppers song 
> on MTV" with me

     I don't want to talk with you about those
assholes and their "cool" song on MTV at all.

--Starcap'n Ra       {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu