From: moskowit@tronsbox.UUCP (Len Moskowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: requesting CD player advice
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:10:04 GMT
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.

In article <ku9ldkINNh0l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> nemeth@helix.Eng.Sun.COM
(Les Nemeth) writes:

>What you are missing here is the fact that distortion is of no relevance
>in this equation. There are going to be better and/or worse players than
>others regardless of price. Sound quality of the CD player has to do with
>how well the player converts the data from digital to analog. Therefore,
>it is in your best interest to buy the player with the most oversampling
>per dollar spent. It has been proven that, the more oversampling a player
>has, the better it is at reproducing the sound faithfully.

Nothing of the sort has been proven.  There are just too many
contributors to sound quality to make such a blanket statement; the
faithfulness of the D-to-A section is just a piece of it.  Just as
important is the quality of the CD player's various power supplies and
their filtering, the quality of the line level output stage, and the
data recovery and clocking functions.

It's not hard to build an D-to-A section with a high oversampling rate
that sounds awful.  And with the years of experience we now have, it's
not that hard to make a two-times oversampling stage that sounds pretty darned good.

So, the oversampling rate is at best, only one, rather poor,
indication of *possible* sound quality.
-- 


Len Moskowitz
moskowit@tronsbox.xei.com
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.music.cd,rec.audio
Subject: Re: requesting CD player advice
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In article <ku9ldkINNh0l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> nemeth@helix.Eng.Sun.COM
(Les Nemeth) writes:

>What you are missing here is the fact that distortion is of no relevance
>in this equation. There are going to be better and/or worse players than
>others regardless of price. Sound quality of the CD player has to do with
>how well the player converts the data from digital to analog. Therefore,
>it is in your best interest to buy the player with the most oversampling
>per dollar spent. It has been proven that, the more oversampling a player
>has, the better it is at reproducing the sound faithfully.

Nothing of the sort has been proven.  There are just too many
contributors to sound quality to make such a blanket statement; the
faithfulness of the D-to-A section is just a piece of it.  Just as
important is the quality of the CD player's various power supplies and
their filtering, the quality of the line level output stage, and the
data recovery and clocking functions.

It's not hard to build an D-to-A section with a high oversampling rate
that sounds awful.  And with the years of experience we now have, it's
not that hard to make a two-times oversampling stage that sounds pretty darned good.

So, the oversampling rate is at best, only one, rather poor,
indication of *possible* sound quality.
-- 


Len Moskowitz
moskowit@tronsbox.xei.com
From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:07:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Audiophile Bashing, was CD rot -- who gives a damn?
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA