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From: luebke5317@iscsvax.uni.edu (Phil Luebke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Re: TRIP SHAKESPEARE
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:28:53 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <llBkeWq@uop.uop.edu>, mthorn@madvax.uop.edu (Charlie's enormous mouth) writes:
> luebke5317@iscsvax.uni.edu (Phil Luebke) screams:
> 
>>G       R       E       A       T       
>>        
>>                                        B       A       N       D       !
>>
>>(what else is there to say?)
> 
> How about telling us WHY they are a "GREAT BAND?"  How about telling us what
> they SOUND LIKE?  What they've done that's ORIGINAL or CREATIVE?
> 
> If every time someone on the net said "Yeh boy that's a GREAT BAND!" I ran out
> and bought a CD of this supposed GREAT BAND, I'd be penniless, and would
> probably have only come up with a couple bands I actually liked.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Michael Thorn / mthorn@madvax.uop.edu 
> "When humans were young, they were pushed around in strollers.  When they were
> old, they were pushed around in wheelchairs.  In between, they were just pushed
> around." -- Tom Robbins

If you would read all of the new postings before answering, you would see that
there is already plenty of discussion about this band.  The reason I didn't
write much more at the time is because our school's computer lab was closing
(sorry!).  I *am* penniless because I *do* go out and buy every great new CD I
hear about.  But I usually borrow someone else's before I buy it (usually a
good way to do it).  I will say this about Trip:  Of my 200+ CDs, they alway
sound new and refreshing every time I put them in, as opposed to some of my
other ones that get kinda old and boring.

-Phil
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dorschte@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Re: A little help please :)
Reply-To: dorschte@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:10:09 GMT

In article <3APR199214063440@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>, cvadrmuo@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Silk) writes:
>Well i've been well into the alternative almost all my life.. it seems kind of
>stupid that I don't know who put out the following songs so I'll leave it up
>you guys to figure it out for me..
>
>1) "..You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round." 
>                CVADRMUO (at) CSUPomona.edu
  Dead or Alive, off "Youthquake" originally.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: stage diving
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 00:58:58 GMT

bohren@cypress.cis.ohio-state.edu (arthur william bohren) writes:


>When it comes to stage diving, I've noticed that some bands are strictly
>against their crowd diving off the stage, while others encourage or even
>participate in the activities. Here's a quick list of each category from
>my own experience, or eye-witness testimony:

>Against: The Violent Femmes(they walked off stage due to it)
>         The Pixies
>         Social Distortion

>For:     Too Much Joy(their dummer dived a number of times)
>         Fishbone
>         Body Count(guessing from the video for There Goes the Neighborhood)

I saw The Psychedelic Furs in Vancouver a couple of months ago.
It was a great concert. Everybody was having a great time. Anybody who
wanted to stage dive could do so. During the finale, as many as 20
people at a time were on stage singing along and stage diving.

It was very joyous concert.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey)
Subject: Pictures (Re: GIF's of alternative music artists)
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:41:20 GMT

In article <92098.135950ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>
>   With all these great alt. music groups that are discussed here, I for one
>wouldn't mind getting some gifs of some of them. And the good news is that
>there is an ftp site that primarily deals with music. I spoke to the moderator
>and told him that his gif directory is a bit thin and could use some more
>artists. He told me to feel free to mention this on this newsgroup. If you
>have gifs that you want to submit WRITE TO HIM FIRST. He is Dave Datta and
>his address is datta@cs.uwp. Some of you may recognize this node as the
>ftp site for lyrics, well it also has a gif directory and here's hoping that
>it will be as big as its lyrics directory.

Other sources for GIFs and other picture formats such as JPGs (from JPEG, the
Joint Photographic Experts Group):

I found several Dead Can Dance covers and the entire set of Cocteau Twins singles
covers posted in alt.binaries.pictures

Kate Bush gifs via ftp from hayes.ims.alaska.edu, directory pub/love-hounds/kb/pix

Happy Rhodes gifs via ftp from hardees.rutgers.edu.  Look for the README file in 
~ftp/pub/hr explaining what is where.  Look for the COOL 3-Dish processed cover
of Happy's "Ecto".  Digital Image Processing magic at your service!! 

- V
From: amcbride@axion.bt.co.uk (Alan McBride)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: V O X
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:40:26 GMT
Reply-To: AMcBride@axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Research Laboratories



VOX mag this month has an excellent free
tape with peel session stuff.


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From: R.Bradley.Byrd@dartmouth.edu (R. Bradley Byrd)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: IMPORTANT QUESTION -- concert info???
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:32:18 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

is there a newsgroup (other than this) where there are postings of
concert information?  it seems a logical thing to have.  people could
just add whatever tour they wanted to the list, and likewise ask for
anything...
if there is not such a newsgroup, i STRONGLY suggest establishing one. 
unfortunately, i am rather a rookie at the whole newsgroup thing, so i
am not sure what means are necessary for getting a new group
established.  anyone interested in helping???  please get back to me.

-- brad

perry ferrell, frank orrall, and j. mascis are god
            (i'm a polytheist)
         *** PORNO FOR PYRO'S ***
From: wiatr-m@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marc Wiatrowski)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indigo Girls to be on Late Night tonight
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:29:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

>I was watching Late Night with D. Letterman last night and David was telling who was going to be on tommorrow's (today's) show.  He said there was going to be a dog that ate a car, (I forgot the guest), and the musical guests will be the Indigo Girls.

>Just thought I let people know, so they can start up those VCR's or stay up late tonight.


wasn't last nite's late night a repeat?  (not sure though.)

marc
From: ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: *Alternative* Music?
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Pandora's Box

M. COOPER / B. McQUAID...

> I agree.  My point is that underground radio thrives upon
> the promotion of unknowns, and not upon the promotion of pop
> acts.  Therefore, underground radio should stick to unknowns.

Me...

# Again, *WHAT* "underground radio"?  What station(s) are you talking
# about?

M. COOPER / B. McQUAID...

> 	Those that do not converge primarily on popular music.

Which are, in your experience, the UCSD cable station (which, from their
CMJ playlist anyway, seems to be a very conventional college/"modern rock"
station, playing a lot of music heard daily on the nation's commercial
airwaves), and a scant listening to UNLV's station?  Your entire thesis
about what "underground radio" thrives on is based on this limited
exposure?  (And, as we've come to understand, no real experience in
working inside one of these stations?)

And now a station only has to not converge "primarily" on "popular"
music.  A station can still be underground even if it occasionally slips
up and plays something "popular"?  And what is "popular" in your
definition?  Heard elsewhere?  Heard on commercial radio?  (Which, as we've
seen repeatedly, would keep most of your favorite bands off the air of
truly "underground" stations.)

You are certainly entitled to your opinions, but the more you post, the
more it seems to me they are baseless.

Me...

# In what way do these stations thrive or not? [A dozen possible measures
# deleted]

Milo...

> 	Not every station measures its prosperity as do the others.
> The derivation of a scale of some sort is beside the point since I
> do not believe that positive feedback from the majority of listeners
> is necessarily a sign that the station is a good one.  Economics
> in this case are certainly of import but beyond a fine such status,
> what else need be maintained?  If you've got the money to play
> the music, and the FCC's approval, then the public's opinion be damned.

After all that, you still haven't answered the question: when you say an
"underground radio thrives" what do you mean?  What is "to thrive" in this
context?
--
	      "Phish is good."  --James Treworgy, March 18, 1992
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From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: >>>>The Cult (before drugs took over)
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:38:18 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr8.160537.17432@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> macintyn@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Neil Macintyre) writes:
>	The Cult have been rubbish since `Electric', any agreement ?
> Best song... Zap City, Manor House recording sessions, not on Electric.
> Seen them a few times live, Aberdeen in `85 was a riot ! Glasgow in `87 was
> a pretty wild night also.
     
      The album "Love " is my favoute of their's . "Electric" second
      favourite .They started going astray on "Sun King" and I haven't 
      bothered to get their latest album as I didn't think much of 
      "Wild Hearted Son "- is the album any good???

> My personal view is that Astbury and Duffy snort too much of the devil's
> dandruff these days to produce anything decent...

      Didn't know this - certainly helps provide a reason for the
      apparent decline .
                          Peter.
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:3254 rec.music.misc:14230 rec.radio.noncomm:409
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc,rec.radio.noncomm
Subject: Re: *Alternative* Music?
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:52:27 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

Well, no.

But someone wanted to see another playlist, so I typed last night's
in. I don't think there's anything here from the College charts. Sorry.


RTQE 4/12/92

Artist	Title	Recording	Label
Angelique Kidjo	Batonga	Logozo	Mango
Jon Hassell	Out Pours (kongo) Blue (Prayer)	Flash of the Spirit	Intuition
23 Skiddoo	Language(a) 	Language 12"	Illuminated
Jansen and Barbieri	When Things Dream/Lumen	Stories across Borders	Venture
Haruomi Hosono	Mabui Dance	Paradise View	Monad
Idjah Hadidjah	Arum Bandung	Tonggaret	Nonesuch
Maurizio de Cecco	Japanese Impression	Usenet Tape '91	
Arnold Dreyblatt	Music for Friesland	Private tape
Tom Phillips	Pages at Random-Humument	Words and Music	HansGeorgMeyer
John Tavener	The Protecting Veil (1&2)	The Protecting Veil	Virgin Classics
Ake Pamerud	Alias	Cultures Electroniques VI	Chant du Monde
Michael Nyman	Out of the Ruins	Out of the Ruins	BBC
trad.	I Will Not Be Sad in This World	I Will Not Be Sad in This WOrld	Opal
Brad Garton	Approximate Rhythms	CDCM V-Princeton	Centaur
Andy Milburn	Elmore	CDCM V-Princeton	Centaur

P.S. The station's next fund drive is pretty crucial stuff. If our
donations don't go up, we're in danger of losing the CPB grant that
pays for our only paid staff. *That's* trouble. However neat and hip
and happy we may be, even *our* listener-sponsors call the shots...even
more than advertisers do. Such is life in community radio, where only
about 10% of our listeners actually are listener-sponsors. I'm lucky
to have an active and generous audience, but there's only one of me for
2 hours per week.
--
I am so lonely for the twentieth century,/for the deeply felt, obscene
graffiti/of armed men and the beautiful bridges/that make them so small and
carry them/into the hearts of cities written like words/across nothing,/the
dense void history became in my beautiful century/gtaylor/608-828-3385
From: tclark@Apple.COM (Tom Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Primus? Cracker? Mudhoney?
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:19:43 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr6.212224.5307@acsu.buffalo.edu> mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola) writes:
>
>	I realize that these groups are totally unrelated, but I was
>wondering if any one, or all of them are recommended listening.  I
>listen to quite a variety of music (Pixies, Soundgarden, Afghan Whigs,
>Jane's, NIN to the Beatles, Ry Cooder, Leon Redbone, Dylan and almost
>everything in between) and have heard the "popular" stuff by all three of
>the listed groups.  I am definitely one to take chances, but for some 
>reason these three have scared me.  All I need to hear are a few praises 
>or a few negatives to lean me either way.  My mail account is : 
>IN%"V050PF8E@UBVMS".  Or just post.
>						JiM  

I can't speak for Primus, but the self-titled Mudhoney album was my pick
for album of the year, 1990. It's grungy and disgusting - not too rough
but torrid enough to make your face contort while you sing along.  The recent
"Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge" continues in this vein but loses some emotion.
They have a good EP called "Boiled Beef and Rotting Teeth."

Those of you who followed the recent Cracker thread know how we feel about
the album: Superb.

<dismounting high horse>

tcc
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: chungkuo@ais.org (Shawn FitzGerald)
Subject: Re: ?????????~~~~ SLAM DANCING ~~~~?????????????
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:25:30 GMT

I think of myself as a veteran slam dancer, and I have never been seriously
injured during any mosh that I can remember. (That was not an obscure
drug/alcohol reference)

There have been two things that have happened during thrash concerts that
have been rather unerving. Once, while watching Thought Industry (their
Metal Blade release "Songs for (Deaaad?) Insects" should be out SOON. I've
heard it, pretty cool) in K-Zoo (uh, Kalamazoo for non-Michiganers. Yes,
there really is such a place) a very large man picked me up from behind and
threw me into the pit. I landed amongst the flying feet, but someone grabbed
me and picked me up. That's the thing about slamming, most of the p0eople
are pretty cool. If someone falls down, you help them up. Same thing for
stage diving. At the same concert, a guy gestured for someone to jump, and
then didn't catch him. The jumper landed on the floor with a bloody (looked
broken) nose. Some other guys took the roach who moved outside and pounded
the shit out of him.

There was one time when I was watching Dresden when a couple of my friends
picked me up and set me head-first on the stage. I was sick at the time and
passed out, landing on the floor. I was not a happy camper, but I wasn't
hurt either.


-- 
   Shawn FitzGerald           |   chungkuo@ais.org
   (Rational Romantic         |   University of Michigan
    Mystic Cynical Idealist)  |   Computing Club
"I love you so I keep dreaming . . ." -Bananas, _The House of Blue Leaves_
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: aschi@silver.lcs.mit.edu (aschi)
Subject: Re: boston bands
Keywords: ping pong
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 03:22:34 GMT

Throwing Muses are actually from Rhode Island... Kristin Hersh and Tanya 
Donelly are half-sisters...

(And a related question: which one is in Belly, and anyone know the tour 
dates?)

aschi
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 12:11:46 EDT
From: <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Stone Roses-Questions

I have been a long-time fan of Stone Roses' self-titled album, but I have a
few questions...

1.  Does Don't Stop use backwards notes from Waterfall?  My roommate and I
thought that Don't Stop sounded backwards at first, but then we weren't
sure.  Incredibly neat effect.  Can anybody enlighten me as to how this song
was made?

2.  I only have the self-titled album, is there any EP's, singles, live
versions, re-mixes, earlier/later stuff under different names?  I know there
is a remix of Waterfall or something, but I have not been able to get my
hands on it yet...I go to a college in the sticks.

3.  Any final word (or rumors, for that matter) on any forthcoming albums?
I'm dying to hear some new stuff from this incredible band.


E-mail great, but post, too, if you prefer.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dsmentek@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Smentek)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets question
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 21:01:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.164635.21997@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v051l27e@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CHRIS COURTENAY) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr13.160402.17587@mcs.anl.gov>, sasso@flounder.phy.anl.gov (John F. Sasso) writes...
|> >In article <1992Apr11.205649.4981@ac.dal.ca> zeppelin@ac.dal.ca writes:
|> >>

... stuff deleted....


In regards to the latest Love and Rockets questions:


The first song recorded by L&R was "Ball of Confusion", released on 12".
When it was released, Tones on Tail (the intermediate in the transition from
Bauhaus -> L&R) was still not disbanded.  The first release of "7th dream
of teenage heaven" was an import (on beggars banquet, I believe) and did
not have BOC or "God and Mr. Smith", which I believe is on all US versions.

I have seen BOC on some editions of 7th dream, but I don't think it is 
the mainstream US version.  

Kundalini Express was also released intitally as a 12".  All releases of
Express, as far as I know, have both tracks.  

A vaguely interesting history of the transition of Tones on Tail to L&R is
inside the CD booklet for the CD "Tones on Tail", a compilation of their
releases.  Worth buying just for "Go!".

Dave
From: amcbride@axion.bt.co.uk (Alan McBride)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:20:52 GMT
Reply-To: AMcBride@axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Research Laboratories


In article <19908@castle.ed.ac.uk>, aigdi@castle.ed.ac.uk (Gavin Inglis) writes:
|> Anyone heard anything by The Breeders? (Kim Deal from the Pixies formed
|> this band) Their last album was called "Pod" and there's another one on
|> the way.
|> Just wondering what they sounded like; in an interview they said
|> something about "the ultimate disco album" but a friend says they're a
|> sort of Pixies/Throwing Muses mishmash.
|> If yer interested, they've just acquired Kim's sister, which gives them
|> three female guitar/vocalists.

...do they also have members of babes in toyland?  They
sound pretty much like them.


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From: sneal@cad607.intel.edu (Scott Neal)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bongwater
Keywords: bongwater
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:43:14 GMT
Organization: Corporate CAD, INTeL Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1992Mar30.120656.22926@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, molivier@isis.cs.du.edu (meirhaeghe olivier) writes:
|> 
|> 	Hum...does anyboday know about this ? I have the 'Double
|> 	Bummer ' MONSTER PACKAGE Cd.;wihich is Bong water Double
|> 	and first bummer Album + The two singles ( you dont love
|> 	me yet ) and another one with this Led Zeppelin Cover..
|> 	i got this Package in a sale round here and it says it is
|> 	only an european Release :) Really ? can the two first
|> 	single be found on any other release ?
|> 
|> 	Olivier@fifi.univ-lyon1.fr

	The CD version of Double Bummer includes Bongwater's debut
EP "Breaking No New Ground" (SHIMMY-002), their 7" single "You Don't
Love Me Yet" b/w "The Porpoise Song", and an unreleased Epilog.  This
is a domestic release--I'm getting the info right out of the Shimmy-Disc
Catalog.

	The Zep cover is from "Breaking No New Ground", which has one
other cover (can't think of the name, but you'd know it when you heard
it) and four originals.

	If your CD has anything else on it, let us enquiring minds know!
-- 


					Scott Neal
					sneal@scdt.intel.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: odwak@fraser.sfu.ca (Hartley Odwak)
Subject: Re: Pixies advice sought / David Koehler
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:03:16 GMT

David - get the CD 'Come On Pilgrim' / 'Surfer Rosa' Combo as soon as
you can get out of your dwelling!!! 

'Bossanova' may soon grow on you....

BTW - Come on Pilgrim is their first recording, Surfer Rosa the
second..

Open yer sneers,

Hartley