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From: v495a84d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monetta R James)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: ATCQ Hot Sex Video
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct12.191022.5265@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes...
>In article <Bvxuy0.M2D@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v081jwnc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MC Flexible Flyer) writes:
>>I just peeped the video about an hour ago and I was wondering why they 
>>made such a wack video.  I saw the movie, and I have no clue as to why 
>>Tip is wearing that wack ass Jason mask.  The shiny shirts are strange 
>>too.  I wonder if they made that video only for the fact that is was a 
>>single for the movie.
>>
>>
>>I am off like a prom dress,
>>
>>William E. Neuburger, Super Genius
>>(Obvious rip-off of Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius)
> 
>I saw that video Saturday and with Tip wearing that mask (looked more like
>Leatherneck than Jason), I wondered, is that even Q-Tip?  EPMD's, "Rampage,"
>did a good job of protraying Cool J, but it wasn't him.  Also, if that was not
>Tip in the video, well, why?  Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
> 
>                                            T-Dub
>                                            SHYGUY productions
>                                            aka Mr. "Learning-That-Some
>                                                     People-On-This-Net
>                                                     Don't-Know-What
>                                                     SARCASIM-Is"
Well, I heard that the mask Tip is wearing ( if indeed it is him !!!) represents
canibalism ( apparently Hanibal the Canibal wore one in "Silence of the Lambs")
My source says that it means Tip Is SO DAMN HARD HE EATS UP OTHER RAPPERS' LIKE
A FULL COURSE MEAL. I personally would guess that it means [ since sex is like 
a full course meal, especially when served hot and in generous portions (Like 
a platter rather than a simple plate of food)] Tip likes to eat...... Well ,I
won't say it.
                              Just a guess.
  Say it was a good guess.

                                           Monie (no connection to LOVE)
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap sucks balls
Keywords: sucks (no it doesn't)
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:28:47 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

In article <1992Oct7.010509.29999@pellns.alleg.edu>, leej@pell1l11.alleg.edu (Jason Lee) writes:
|> Anything that can't be played with a band is horseshit!

 C'mon you're just a stupid little masochist wanting to be flamed until
 you burn so you could get some sexual satisfaction. I ain't going for
 that so I'll just give some advice.
 
 First,buy the album "Heavy rhyme Experience" by Brand New Heavies. It's a rap
 album with music played by a real band. Then listen to it and stay out of this 
 newsgroup.
						-Palle Zetterstrand
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: More rap reviews?
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct14.114951.15617@etek.chalmers.se>, superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand) writes...
> 
> The discussion on this newsgroup seems to 95% be about American rap.
> It's natural cuz most contributors and rappers are from the US. But
> are you interested in non-US rap music? I've been thinking about
> reviewing non-US hip-hop to make it better known on the net. I'll focus on
> British rap but if I find other interesting material I'll write a line or two
> about it.
> 

	If the shit is available in the US, go ahead.  But if not, not many
people will make it past your first few reviews, because theres really no
point of hearing about this and that UK rapper, when we can never hear the
music. 

	Better, what you should is write a post or two about UK rap or
whatever in general.  Like an article on everything.  

	Juss a suggestion...................................aMIL
From: dvss!jtroy@udel.edu (Jay Troy)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: B-Boys Jimmy James
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 11:11:21 EDT
Organization: Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.



Anyone heard the CD single w/Hendrix?

Dope or no?



 Jay Troy        Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.
                 Computing Solutions for Business and Industry
                 P.O. Box 190 // Claymont, DE 19703 // (302)798-DVSS
                 Internet: ...!udel.edu!dvss!jtroy (jtroy@dvss.UUCP)
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From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New Source?
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92289.092713U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>, U14864@uicvm.uic.edu (Tyrone Ellison) writes...
>I was wondering if the new issue of the Source was out yet, and if it is, who's
>on the cover?  According to the last issue, they were supposed to be talking
>about the Presidential campaign.  Since the stores out here haven't received
>the new one yet, any info would be appreciated.
> 
>Audi 5,000  ...The Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner...

	
	Yeah, its out.  Dr.Dre of NWA is on the cover, pointing a magnum45
at his head.  Good issue.  Get it.  And yes, there is an article titled,
"hip-hop guide to the presidential election".

								aMIL
From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: That alt.rap Ho!
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:30:15 GMT
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center

In article <1992Oct15.200055.1@vax1.umkc.edu> dwrinkle@vax1.umkc.edu (--DJ Revolution--) writes:
>Yo, I dont know who the fuck that this trick ass bitch think she is, but
>Im finnah stop the nonsense real quick...

I think the only way to put an end to this nonsense if just for everyone to
chill already, if she hates rap you really think she is bothering to read
the replies in alt.rap?  Odds are only people reading your post are rap fans
who already agree with you.  And remember the best way to deal with
ignorance is education, not insults.


				    -Lee
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Grand Puba's Midnight Special.
Organization: Indiana Daily Student
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:55:48 GMT

Your 411 before I motivate for the weekend...

As I was hanging around the newsroom last night working on the sports pages,
I came across an ad for a local record store which said that the store would
open up at Midnight, October 20, to sell the new Madonna album to the masses.
This technique has been used before with Guns'N'Roses, Bruce Springsteen and, 
most recently, R.E.M., and I imagine that stores will be opening up all around
the country for this pseudo-event.

This date probably wouldn't mean jack to the alt.rap crews, except for the
fact that "Reel To Reel", the long-awaited LP by Grand Puba, is coming out
on the same day.  Although the stores probably wouldn't be geared toward
selling that particular album that night, they would be willing to sell it.
Case in point: I went to the midnight release of those G'n'R B'n'S LPs, asked
for Mariah Carey's new LP at the time (Emotions), and bought it that night.
In this case, though, I was just one person in the right store, and at the
time I was as big a Mariah fan as the rest of those metalheads were G'n'R
fans.

So here's the lowdown.  I want to see all the positive brothers and sisters out
there reading this to go to the stores on Midnight Tuesday and demand your 
Grand Puba.  In fact, I'd like to see everyone out there reading this to
organize large groups of rap fans and bum rush the stores that will be staying
open for Madonna.  Let everybody out there know that rap music ain't no joke.
And if these stores don't want to sell you that CD, shut 'em down until they
give in.  And make 'em sell the LP to you for the same price as Madonna's
garbage as well.

All of these stores will cater to what sells and what sells only.  "Rap is the
number one pick so I draft it. I don't give a damn about the other 
demographics."  We've got to let the people out there know that rap is here
to stay, and we have to take some action for it.  Here's our chance.  I've
got Bloomington.  Who's got the rest of the country?

And I'm out like James Stockdale...


-- 
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------------- Coming October 20th: GRAND PUBA, "Reel to Reel" ---------------
******* Coming in 1993: The long-awaited 12" single, "RAP IS AN ART" ********
****************** ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions. *******************
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Subject: Generic Shit
From: dwrinkle@vax1.umkc.edu (--DJ Revolution--)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:32:45 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Yo, for those of you out there on the production tip, if you looking for 
some phat vocal samples to garnish your tracks, I highly recommend anything
by The Last Poets, they are a group of 'beatnik' poetry readers from the
late sixties early seventies who could be seen as some of the forefathers
of rap, at least in spirit, they kick hardcore blackness straight up, and
the only music is usually just bongos or a flute, so there ain't much noise
to weed out, there are all kinds of lines that make great 'bites', and Im
surprised I havent heard more of them in some of todays music, only in
Public Enemy and NWA songs have I heard them used, anyone else out there
a Last Poets fan... also I recommend Gil Scott Heron's "The Revolution
will not be televised" it has a pretty phat beat for something in 75 and
I have heard Griff use it, but I also think that there are many cool 
lines that could be snatched out...

Also, any info on rumors I have heard of Flavor Flav dropping vocals over
a new George Clinton track... I think it would come extra hard, having
Flav and the P-Funk-meister himself kickin it together...
-- 


See Ya'
DJ Revolution [CONTINUUM MUSIC]
Believe Dat'
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Understanding Hip Hop
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:02:02 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <fedde.718651552@Minsk> fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
>Madison J. Gray <34LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>
>>But in order to understand the black experience, you hav to have lived 
>>the black experience, and in most cases that means being black.
>
>Man...are you saying whites cannot understand this music to the full length
>of it? What a load of crap, if that is what you mean! I have been listening
>to this type of music from its VERY, VERY start, and I love it so much, that
>when a dope beat comes on, it even seems to affect me physically sending wierd
>feelings over my body. I call that an experience of this music and I don't
>have to be black to feel it. 

>Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)

	Sorry, but I have to agree with the first post partly at least. Not 
even all blacks can get into hip hop (good example - my parents, although my
mom exercised to Kool Moe Dee's "Wild West") And not all blacks are from this
"experience" that created the hip hop culture. That said, the same is true 
for MOST whites. I say most, although I haven't met one whom I thought fits
the above description. After all, it's one thing to have listened to hip hop
from its very start, but its another to have actually been on the streets, 
playgrounds, parties (whatever) when these beats were first heard. After all,
when C.L. Smooth (or any other great lyricist) talks about growing up, it
means a lot to have been in a similar situation. As for the message, I hope 
this is universal.
-- 
Patrice Simon
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From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: SS
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:10:50 GMT

There is a CD that has just Malcolm X speeches on it.  I fon't know the name
of it, but I'll find out and let you know.  I remember seeing it once, but
did not have the money or a CD player at the time.  I'll let you know.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: NWA et al
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:08:16 GMT
	<1992Oct6.195820.23461@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <fedde.718414912@Moskva>
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: fedde@Moskva.docs.uu.se's message of 6 Oct 92 23:41:52 GMT

fedde@Moskva.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
|c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly) writes:
|>        My question is: How can NWA sell any records after "No Vaseline"?
|Because you don't have to be so simple-minded to choose a side. 

Have they patched things up yet?

|I personally
|find it VERY amusing to hear them diss eachother on records. I bought Mc 
|Rens _Kiss My Black Azz_ and thought it was acceptable. And you know what?
|They will keep selling...maybe not as when Ice cube was with them, but they
|will keep selling...

Ice Cube was probably the most talented in the group (with E being the
least talented in the rap dept).  I feel like he's really gone
forward.

Hip hop might be better off with Cube having left (except for that
embarrassing war of words they keep having--its too evil seeming).


--
Peace.
            "Look! An X-man movie's coming out!"
                    care of a 10 year old in a Tulsa movie
                    theater, looking at a poster for _Malcolm X_
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: The Wafer Charged?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:57:50 EDT
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.2 R4
X-Mailer: DigiQR 5.38b
Reply-To: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Distribution: world
Organization: The All Ter Nah Tive Un Der Groend

Well, there seems to be discussion here about Vanilla Wafer's latest
escapades.

Not to come to his rescue or anything, but if this is the same story I saw
then it is not the true Wafer.  It is some guy going around posing as him.

Apparently he ripped off several credits cards, hotels, restaurants, etc.

The question remains, why would someone want to impersonate him?

--
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Brampton, Ontario                     |             adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP
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From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Why is rap music in commercials always lame?
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:15:15 GMT
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I think the reason bad rap is in commercials is to aid in the
companies attempt to show the public that "we are not racist".
Most people don't notice, but almost every commercial has a 
strategically placed black actor in it, and most new toys
have a black and white version.  I don't see any problems with
this other than the entire commercial is so contrived it's
insulting to our intellegence.  It's like these hot-shot
executives trying to market their product make the cheezy-
run-of-the-mill/boring commercial that everyone does, and them
-sorry- and then one of them says "let's put a black actor/actress
in it so we don't get in trouble" instead of hiring actors/actresses
based on talent, regardless of color.  You're right, usually the
rap is incredibly corny, and done by a no-talent white kid who's
about 10 years old.  Most of them suck.  I agree this is good 
because it leaves the good hip hop to the artists.  However I 
thought the Hershey commercial wasn't too bad, and I thought 
"The Fruit-A-Rooty Rap" staring Barney Rubble was pretty funny.
But I am getting sick of everybody and their brother rapping
because it's marketable.

                                          ->Spice
(this is just my opinion, you don't
have to buy it, and I may be way off
base, but that's how I see it now.)
From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap sucks balls
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:32:04 EDT

In article <1992Oct7.010509.29999@pellns.alleg.edu>, leej@pell1l11.alleg.edu (Jason Lee) writes:
> Anything that can't be played with a band is horseshit!

Any good cocksucker or cocksuckee knows it takes `nuff skills to suck balls;
without serious injury of course.

Signed, Lost in Hilbert Space,

DJ Phyz
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Cypress Hill
Keywords: ch
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:00:42 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <fedde.718326047@Sofia> fedde@Sofia.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
>Isn't it time for Cypress Hill to come out with something new soon?
>Anyone got any info on what they are up to?
>
>Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)

	The latest 12" "Latin Lingo" (someone called this "funky bilingual")
has some phat remixes of that plus "Stoned is the Way of the Walk" and 
"Hand on the Glock"...worth pickin' up.

-- 
Patrice Simon
simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
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From: ip234@brems.ii.uib.no (Morten Hoff)
Subject: Shante
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:00:17 GMT

Has anyone picked up the new Shante album ? Does it have any of that good old
Cold Chillin' feel to it ? 

Morten Hoff
From: z3kpw@TTACS1.TTU.EDU ("Wheeler, Kevin")
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: "that song" and gangsta stuff
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:20:00 GMT

In response to the question about the old Sugar Hill song, it's called
"On the Radio" by Crash Crew.  

"On the Radio" by Crash Crew.  

"On the Radio" by Crash Crew.  

'bout the "why a lot of whites are into NWA": I'm white myself and know
a lot 'bout the genres of metal and punk and the cliques that develop
around them.  NWA has similar appeal in the lyrics and hardness of some
of the beats, mostly in the "harder than you" attitude of power, strength
and defiance.  
Face it, it's a fun, angry rush to stomp around yelling "Fuck wit' me, 
I'll put a foot in yer ass!"... not much different than Slayer songs about
people dying left and right, dropping like flies.  
Or the way highschool skate punks get so excited over the Sex Pistols
Or the way highschool skate punks get so excited over the Sex Pistols
still, with "I wanna be...anarchy".  Same thing.

Kevin Wheeler
Weasel-MX

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dathomp@eng.clemson.edu (dennis thompson)
Subject: Re: Rap sucks balls
Keywords: You punk redneck honky faggit if you dont open your mind to all forms of X-pression then you are doomed to stay ignorant forever. Assuming you're white ,you are the type of trash that givges US a bad name . So shut your hole and open your mind. O my play list are : Temple of the Dog , Jimmy Buffet , Ice Cube , Ice-T , PE , Frank Sinatra and every other type of music you can think of.
Reply-To: dathomp@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Distribution: World
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:52:43 GMT


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From: casey@cs.mcgill.ca (Kallol DAS)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Beastie Boys 'Check Your Head' Lyrics
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:53:01 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada


Hello.  I was wondering if anyone has the lyrics for Check Your Head...
(What a CD!) anyway if you do could you *please* mail it to me.


			Thanks.

			casey@cs.mcgill.ca
			"Atlanta over Pittsburgh, Oakland
			over Toronto, Atlanta over Oakland
			in 6" -> you saw it here first.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts)
Subject: Re: Cypress Hill
Reply-To: wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:25:28 GMT

In article <fedde.718462176@Minsk> fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:

>What I was asking for was a new album. At the end
>people get tired of remixes of old stuff. Was a long time they came out with
>their last, so I thought it was time for something new...
>
>Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)

I believe the new album is out in the states at the present time,
anyway a friend told me it was out, and he's generally more up to date
than I am.  I'll check it this weekend.

Peace,
	     Warren Watts
From: v065m89r@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Keith P McCartney)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Kool G. Rap...
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:13:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Anybody out there got the 411 on G. Rap and Polo? If you do, let me
hear from ya. This category has help me catch up on the news but I
still don't know whats up with these guys. Any info is welcome, 
Email or posting. Thanx...
		And I'm AUDI, like mother f*ckin' Kirk Gouty-EPMD
					Pooky
P.S. Picked up the new PE lp...It's PHHHHHAAAAATTTT!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Brand Nubian
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:36:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.195248.11456@muddcs.claremont.edu> ckukkone@jarthur.claremont.edu (CK3) writes:
>
>Got the new single from Electra the other day.nothing
>special.  The remaining crew plus a few more still have the
>skillz but the song is kinda bland..........

"Punks Jump Up To Get Beat Down"

It's an overused beat, to be sure, but I like the way Derrick X and Lord
Jammar came off on this one.  It ain't "360 Degrees", but I don't think it
was meant to be.  I still can't wait for the album.
-- 
- David J. ---- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS ---- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu -
- Coming October 20th: GRAND PUBA, "Reel to Reel", PRINCE, "O-+->",         -
******* Coming in 1993: The long-awaited 12" single, "RAP IS AN ART" ********
****************** ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions. *******************
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: marky mf mark does it again
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:53:42 GMT
Organization: Indiana Daily Student

In article <1992Oct7.182040.7656@ultb.isc.rit.edu> klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I have some ideas myself of some songs where I thought the beat resembled the
>one for "How I Could...", but to clarify your post, can you tell what song(s)
>you are talking about?
>
>K-Mello
>SHYGUY Productions

I'm guessin' that you're talking to me, K, so I'll clarify:

The beat is listed in De La Soul's album as a sample from Lowell Fulson's
"Tramp," and so far, these are the songs I have heard so far that use that
beat...

Cypress Hill, "How I Could Just Kill A Man"
De La Soul, "Let Let Me In"
EPMD, "Rampage" (I think they were the first to sample this)
FU-Schnickens, "Back Off."

There may be others that sound similar as well, such as "Step To The Rear" by
Brand Nubian, but I don't know if they sampled that song directly (They did
use the same bassline).

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- Coming October 20th: GRAND PUBA, "Reel to Reel", PRINCE, "O-+->",         -
******* Coming in 1993: The long-awaited 12" single, "RAP IS AN ART" ********
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