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From: shayne@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia Mancini)
Subject: Re: Team Payroll/Season Ticket count
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:23:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.165618.13391@sei.cmu.edu> jwh@sei.cmu.edu (John Huber) writes:

>|>     Team	  Tickets	Pct.
>|> ------------------------------------
>|>  4. Montreal  14,500	90%
>

[stuff deleted]

>This brings a question to mind.  I know the Penguins refuse to sell all of the
>seats as season tickets.  Even though a waiting list exists for season
>tickets, we still sell only 80% of the capacity.  This allows individual game
>sales and possibly keeps the cost of scalped tickets down.
>
>Is this common for other teams/cities?!?  Do most teams only sell a portion of
>their seats as season tickets?  Or do they sell as many season tickets as are
>demanded (usual supply/demand concept)?  It seems from these stats that most
>arenas follow the same practice as the Penguins.

As you can see above, most of the Forum's tickets belong to season ticket
holders. There is about a 2 year waiting list for season tickets.
As for scalped tickets, I just spoke to someone who paid about $10-15
dollars more for a good seat, so I'd say scalped tickets are expensive.

>-Jay
-- Lydia
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 21 Nov 1992 13:15:45 EST
From: The illustrius Pat Ellis (the DM) <IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bruins Goalie Mike Bales
Distribution: na

Unfortunately I have no access to stats from the AHL (does anyone
out there?) however I had thought that he played quite well during
training camp, and that if Lemelin faltered he would be called up
immediately.  I was said I belive by Mike Milbury (assistant GM) that
Mr. Bales would probably get called up once a month or something to get
playing time in the pros.

    Unfortunatley for you however, I just read in the Boston Globe
last week that the bruins now consider John Blue to be the number
three goaly, no explanation was given as to why, oh well.. just
thought I'd let you know....

          Pat Ellis


P.s.    GO BRUINS     GO MAINE BLACK BEARS,  (#1 once again..)
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: This week's ESPN telecast
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:02:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HMS

Someone brought up the fact that this Friday's afternoon ESPN telecast is
a big waste since Hartford is a lousy team(5-14-1) and nobody will be
around to watch it since Friday is either a working day or a big shopping
in the States(many of you will find yourself in a big shopping mall one
way or another). I totally agree. So for those of you lucky enough to
find yourself in front of a cable-TV set at 1pm on Friday, 
you're definetly will be shortchanged by a marketing geniuises at ESPN
who designed their schedule way back in September when the Battle of New
England looked like a hot turkey.  Even a back-up a game(Islanders-Philly
) looked solid at the time, with Lindros as a star attraction. With Lindros
out and Flyers(8-9-4) and Isles(8-10-2) playing as marginally average teams
in a rebuilding process, ESPN definetly wll ge stuck with a bone this
Friday. And next telecast will only be on Friday,December 11th with Phiily
in Detroit(or Pens at Devils as a back-up). Brace yourself for December 17th
telecast as the Rangers take on the basement dwellers,The Blues.Oh Joy!

Hopefully,the TV schedule for the second half of the season will reflect
current standings(i.e. More Montreal,Bruins,Quebec,LA,Vancouver) and
some double-headers for a change.

-PPV Mark
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: It's do or die in St. Louis (vs. TB)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:20:24 GMT

Notes from the Lightning mailing list...

Shawn Chambers played his 1st NHL game since being injured in January. Maltais
played again and Taglianetti was brought back into the line up. Sitting were
Reekie, Crossman, and Bureau. Hard-to-believe stat: only 2 players were minus
before tonight: Ramage -2, Hodge -5.

Jablonski was starting again against his old team (2-0-0 so far). Caron, the
GM of StL, said that if they didn't win that heads would roll and trades would
be made. Hull and Janney have denied that there is any effect on them. Other
players may not agree...

In the first period, Hull scored from Janney and Emerson at 6:05 on the Blues'
first power play. About half way through the period, the Blues had a chance
where one player passed the puck from one side of the goal over to the other
and the player fanned on an empty-net tap in. The pass was a little behind him
and he was almost past the net. At 12:41, StL got another power-play goal by
Korolev from Emerson and Miller to lead 2-0. StL was outshooting TB 15-1 at
about this point. At 17:44 Butcher scored from Hull and Zombo just seconds
after Butcher came out of the penalty box. It wasn't a breakaway though.

Shots were 20-5 in favor of StL, and power plays were 0/1 for TB (with a StL
goal coming right after) and 2/2 for StL.

In the second period, it started out all TB. Creighton scored at 1:47 from
Maltais and Chambers to make it 3-1. The shots were 7-0 for TB. The announcers
said the ice must be tilted toward one end 8-). Bradley scored a power-play
goal at 3:39 from Chambers and Beers to make it 3-2. Bradley has scored in
11 straight games. Hull was then stopped by Jablonski on two point blank shots.
Much later, Bradley missed a half-empty net on a backhander. Curtis Joseph
was on his back and there was a lot of traffic and Bradley crossed right to
left before releasing the shot. TB had a 5v3 power play for 52 seconds and
couldn't score. StL took control for the remainder of the period and scored
a goal at 17:56 by Emerson from Janney and Korolev. Shots were 15-10 for TB.
TB scored on 1 of 3 power plays. StL had 0.

In the third period, a StL player shot the puck through Jablonski's 5-hole
from a faceoff dot angle, but Ramage stopped the puck with his stick and
cleared it out of the zone. Hull had a shorthanded breakaway and missed the
net entirely. There was a lot of action both ways, but no scoring. The final
4-2 for St. Louis.

StL trails TB by 3 points for 5th in the Norris. TB has lost 4 in a row,
tying its longest losing streak.

Tom
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Scottish Nat 1 Results : Wk 5
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:19:02 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


	(the weather caused a few problems - so much
	 for artificial surfaces !!!)

        Edinburgh_CS  3 - 0  Clydesdale
              Stepps  0 - 1  Stirling

 Current League Table

                       P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts

          Gordonians   4   4   0   0  12   5   +7  12
            Kelburne   4   3   1   0   8   0   +8  10
         Menzieshill   4   3   0   1   7   2   +5   9
             Torbrex   4   3   0   1  10   6   +4   9
        Edinburgh_CS   5   2   2   1  11   2   +9   8
          Inverleith   4   1   1   2   5   6   -1   4
              Grange   4   1   1   2   3   6   -3   4
            Stirling   5   1   1   3   2   6   -4   4
          Clydesdale   5   0   1   4   3  11   -8   1
              Stepps   5   0   1   4   2  19  -17   1

Richard.
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From: stephen@siesoft.co.uk (Stephen Magee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Scottish Nat.1 Results : Wk 4
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:04:49 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
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Reading bt Richmond 2-1.

It should have been a lot more!
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Scottish Nat.1 Results : Wk 4
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:35:58 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


	Saturday
	--------
          Clydesdale  0 - 1  Kelburne
            Stirling  1 - 1  Edinburgh_CS
          Gordonians  4 - 2  Torbrex
         Menzieshill  3 - 0  Stepps
          Inverleith  0 - 0  Grange

	Sunday
	------
          Inverleith  0 - 1  Menzieshill

 Current League Table

                       P   W   D   L   F   A   GD  Pts

          Gordonians   4   4   0   0  12   5   +7  12
            Kelburne   4   3   1   0   8   0   +8  10
         Menzieshill   4   3   0   1   7   2   +5   9
             Torbrex   4   3   0   1  10   6   +4   9
        Edinburgh_CS   4   1   2   1   8   2   +6   5
          Inverleith   4   1   1   2   5   6   -1   4
              Grange   4   1   1   2   3   6   -3   4
          Clydesdale   4   0   1   3   3   8   -5   1
            Stirling   4   0   1   3   1   6   -5   1
              Stepps   4   0   1   3   2  18  -16   1

p.s. Garyth - Reading beat Brooklands (I think) 2 - 1 (definitely).

Richard.
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From: det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: NCAA Women's Regionals
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:11:12 GMT
Organization: Demi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA
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Melissa Wolff (wolffmj@omen.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
: Please post the results of the Women's regional matches.  The first
: round is taking place today; 2nd round is on Sunday.

i second that!

derek
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		Play:	det@hawkmoon.mn.org	+1 612 683 0413
"Big business and big government distract us with entertainment;
 they manufacture our consent while we destroy the environment."
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From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: NCAA Women's Regionals
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:03:57 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Nov16.031112.768@hawkmoon.mn.org> det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer) writes:
>Melissa Wolff (wolffmj@omen.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
>: Please post the results of the Women's regional matches.  The first
>: round is taking place today; 2nd round is on Sunday.
>
>i second that!
>
>derek

IOWA beat BALL STATE 5-1. Advances to semifinal against U Mass.

Ramakrishna
From: blee@bcarh13d.bnr.ca (Brian Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Looking for Tourney info
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:30:11 GMT
Reply-To: blee@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

Hi,

   I am looking for information on tournaments being held in the South
of England during Easter 1993.  Our club is going to be touring in the
south of England and would like to attend a mixed tournament.

   We have had a tournament at Worthing reccomended to us.  Does anybody
know anything about this tourney ?  

   We are also looking for club contacts to arrange warm-up matches the
week before.

   Finally, someone posted about a tournament in Dublin a while ago.
Could you repost the information or mail it on to me ?  Thanx.

Brian
Outaouais Field Hockey Club 
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


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From: garyth@sun.ac.za (Garyth Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Looking for Tourney info
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:35:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: hippo.1992Nov18.053551.22435
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
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Brian Lee (blee@bcarh13d.bnr.ca) wrote:
:    I am looking for information on tournaments being held in the South
: of England during Easter 1993.  Our club is going to be touring in the
: south of England and would like to attend a mixed tournament.
: 
A few years back I played in the FOLKSTONE Easter Tournament.  This is a 
*MASSIVE* event.  I'm not too sure who to contact, but if anyone else out 
there can help with a contact address please do.  Give 'em a call.

Good luck,
garyth
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From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: NCAA Women's Regionals
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:54:40 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Nov16.031112.768@hawkmoon.mn.org> det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer) writes:
>Melissa Wolff (wolffmj@omen.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
>: Please post the results of the Women's regional matches.  The first
>: round is taking place today; 2nd round is on Sunday.
>
>i second that!
>
>derek
>-- 
>Derek Terveer   Work:	derekt@stpaul.gov	+1 612 292 6009
>		Play:	det@hawkmoon.mn.org	+1 612 683 0413
>"Big business and big government distract us with entertainment;
> they manufacture our consent while we destroy the environment."

Iowa beat Ball state 5-1; will be meeting U Mass next.

Ramakrishna
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From: tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Australian U21 Mens Team
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:32:26 GMT


Greetings,

The FIH Junior World Cup - Oceania Qualifying Tournament will 
be held in Wellington, New Zealand commencing on 3rd December.
Unfortunately, it has been reduced to a two horse contest -
with only Australia and New Zealand competing.

The Australian U21 Mens Team is;

Brendan Garard (c)	Queensland
Jason Duff (vc)		Victoria
Damon Diletti		Western Australia	Barcelona Olympian
Matthew Woolsey		Victoria
Steven Holt		Northern Territory
Matthew Beevers 	Queensland
Max Diamond		Queensland
Daniel Sproule 		Tasmania
Brett Gray		Victoria
Anthony Potter		Victoria
Greg Corbitt		Western Australia	Barcelona Olympian
Glen Kingston		Aust. Capital Territory
Damian Seeto		Queensland
Stephen Carter		Aust. Capital Territory
Grant Smith		Queensland
Darren Duff		Victoria
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From: tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Australian U21 Womens Team
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:10:19 GMT

Greetings,

The Australian U21 Womens Team to compete in the FIH Junior 
World Cup - Oceania Qualifying Tournament on 3rd December is;

Renita Farrell (c)	Queensland
Alyson Annan (vc)	New South Wales		Barcelona Olympian
Shelley Andrews		New South Wales
Carina Aitken		New South Wales
Melanie Dempster	New South Wales
Louise Dobson		Victoria
Kim Handley		South Australia
Kerina Hampton		South Australia
Alison Lippey 		New South Wales
Clover Maitland 	Queensland
Jenny Morris		Queensland
Lorelle Morrissey	Queensland
Nova Peris		Northern Territory
Kate Sage		South Australia
Paige Walling		Northern Territory
Leticia Warlosz		Queensland

Don Smart (coach)	Western Australia

I forgot to mention in the earlier post that the Australian U21
Mens Coach is Barry Dancer from the Australian Institute of Sport.

Regards
Steven Christensen
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From: tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: AIS Tour of Spain @ Holland
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:31:27 GMT


Greetings,

Rather belately, here are some results for the Australian
Institute of Sport Mens Hockey Tour to Spain and the Neth-
erlands.  The AIS squad included 17 player who were elig-
ible for selection for the Australian Under 21 Team to
compete in the Oceania Qualifying Tournament of the FIH
Junior World Cup.

Spain
	AIS 2 v Spanish Under 20 Squad 	0
	AIS 4 v Spanish Under 20 Squad	0
	AIS 5 v Spanish Under 20 Squad	1
	AIS 2 v	Athletico		3
	AIS 2 v	Spanish Under 20 Squad	0

Netherlands
	AIS 4 v Boekenirs		0
	AIS 0 v Tilburg			2
	AIS 2 v Bloemendaal		4
	AIS 3 v Dutch Under 20 Squad	1
	AIS 6	Dutch Under 20 Squad 	2

Regards,
Steve

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From: ncjlog@atmos.washington.edu (Neal Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens-0 Red Wings-8/Random thoughts
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:21:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: order.NCJLOG.92Nov17172127
	<1992Nov17.220251.24422@g2syd.genasys.com.au>
Organization: Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington

In article <1992Nov17.220251.24422@g2syd.genasys.com.au> 
hillig@g2syd.genasys.com.au (Hilli Gibson) writes:

>Those who help someone create a situation that makes him possible
>to rape a girl (intentionally and unintentionally) are still guilty. Although 
> we can not charge them as a rapper. This is what the bible says too.
> If they know what they should  do but they don't is sin.

Sin aside.  If it had been positively indicated that Monsieur Lemieux was
guilty as an accomplice in the manner suggested, he would have been so charged.

> It's obvious that there is something wrong when they split from 4 pairs to
> 2 pairs then later with 1 pair.

Not at all.  I can't speak for all hockey players but as for myself a
little privacy does not mean I am about to break the law, usually.
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From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Lindros injured
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:37:14 GMT

Eric Lindros sprained his knee in tonight's game and it looks like he 
might be out for a month or more.
 
I think his absense is *really* going to hurt the Flyers -- do I 
detect a touch of "Wendel Clark"-syndrome in young Lindros?
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: UPI does it again
Keywords: hockey, men's professional
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:52:54 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <hkn-nhlrupU2NJ135ae@clarinet.com> clarinews@clarinet.com (KISHA CIABATTARI, UPI Sports Writer) writes:

>	But Sabres General Manager/Coach John Muckler thinks the culprit
>resides a little closer to home.

Kind of nice for Kisha to promote Muckler, but Gerry Meehan would be
awfully surprised at this velvet revolution.  The folks at Clarinet
have another fun-filled complaint from me.  


-- 
Valerie Hammerl 	       John Sr. would lift Pat over the boards, grab 
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu       his hand, and start running around the outside,
V085PWPZ@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU  faster and faster.  "I wanted to learn how to 
get that feeling, and the only way was to learn how to skate."  P. LaFontaine
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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: Brendan Shanahan
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:36:46 GMT

In article <4fw12hk@rpi.edu> downec@rpi.edu writes:
>Could someone fill me in on where Brendan Shanahan is?
>
>He must be hurt, but I haven't heard anything and I 
>haven't seen his name since about the 8th or 9th game.
>
>Much thanks
>
>CSD

  Brendan Shanahan pulled a groin in his 9th game of the season and has
been out ever since.  He started skating this week. He stayed in St. Louis
while the Blues are on a two game road trip. He will be out for at least
one more week.

Ron Sutter is back in the Blues lineup for the first time this season.


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From: patrick@psych.toronto.edu (Patrick Keelan)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Divorces
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:37:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.013227.23366@psych.toronto.edu> patrick@psych.toronto.edu (Patrick Keelan) writes:
>In article <92323.151656MCR114@psuvm.psu.edu> Mike Rapach <MCR114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>You are indicating that the only non-speculative element of this
>incident is that Quinn was the only one who was charged.  From my
>understanding of the incident, that is not the case.  From what I've
>read, certain individuals (we all know who) were with certain other
>individuals at the scene.  That is not speculation.  The speculating
>comes in where people on this group give their opinions as to the
>likely unfavourable consequences for the romantic relationships of
>the individuals concerned.  I don't see this as inappropriate for
>this newsgroup.  What do others think?
>-Pat K.
> U. of Toronto
>
Just to clarify, "that is not the case" above does not refer to
Quinn being the only one who was charged, but to the latter
being the only non-speculative element of the incident.
-Pat K.
 U. of Toronto

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