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From: mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan)
Subject: Establishing Texas Residency?
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:50:48 GMT


Some time ago the "Doonesbury" comic strip, in making fun of Bush's
claim of Texas residence, focused on Texas' minimal requirements
for claiming residence.  A mock application was printed in the strip
that just indicated an "intent" to live in Texas. I don't recall
anything in the news stories in the local papers that contradicted
that premise though there were news stories about that episode of
the strip.

So what is the story?  Can anyone in another state become a Texas
resident for the following year onwards by sending a letter by
Dec 31st to John Sharp, or his successor, indicating an intent to
move to Texas? What other steps would be necessary?  Especially
in the case of someone genuinely considering the *possibility*
of relocation.

If this has been hashed before, could someone please e-mail me
any saved postings.

--------
M.H.Khan
mhk@cactus.org
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:03:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.152503.14511@novell.com> bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
>I'm infering from this that the information for a Caller-ID machine is
>already present on the line when a call comes in and that what SWB is
>proposing is NOT any new technology, just a new box to plug in to
>retrieve this info.  Is this correct?

No. They are proposing to *put* the info on the line. Right now it's not
there. If you subscribe it will be there (in the form of a burst of data
between the first and second rings).

>What's then to prevent some guy
>from building a Caller-ID box (Caller-ID modem without the modem)

Actually, a Caller-ID box IS a modem.

>and selling it?

Nothing. You can buy them today.

>And if that's true, what do we need SWB providing this
>service for?

Because they're the only ones who can provide the signal.
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From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey)
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
Subject: Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Date: 29 Dec 92 11:38:21 CDT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Montagar Software Concepts, Plano TX

In article <Bzzn1y.v21@austin.ibm.com>, dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman) writes:
> In article <2934509413.4.p00200@psilink.com>, "John R Kennedy" <p00200@psilink.com> writes:
> |> >
> |> >Under a new law that just passed in Texas, consumers are allowed to
> |> >collect up to $1500 in fines agains any company who initaites a phone
> |> >call with a non-human and can be identified (and who does not have
> |> >prior permission to contact you).

> |> As you may know, the Texas PUC has decided that CallerID is in violation
> |> of a state wiretap law, and thus has declared the service illegal.

	The only reason I don't like it, is I don't want to get on yet
another stupid mailing list or pigeon-holed into another set of demographics
everytime I call a store.  There is already stuff on the market to hook
computers up to CLID boxes to collect your phone number.  And Cole's
Directory can provide most of the other information (and it is available
on CD!).  Next time you call Radio Shack, >poof<, you get another stupid
advertizing rag...  Or how about getting a Columbia Video club mailing/
Cable Co. solititation/etc, just because you called a theater or 444-FILM?
Mailing/Phonelists are big business these days...

	What problem (or whose) is this technology trying to solve, and
who do you really think it will benefit?  Me?  Not really...  I usually
know who is calling (phone number doesn't give you "who").  Even
working from home, I get few calls from telemarketing (I'm not even
unlisted), and I just waste their time as long as I can.  They get
pissed off, and don't call back...

	If you want a feature that will *help* me, then get a 
"telemarketer block" feature.  But I don't suspect that lobbists
at the FCC, PUC, etc will be pushing really hard for something
like that...

	There was quite a bit of controversy on this in alt.privacy
a while back.  I haven't read it for a while, so it could still be
going on.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
David L. Cathey		                |INET: davidc@montagar.com
Montagar Software Concepts              |UUCP: ...!montagar!davidc
P. O. Box 260772, Plano TX  75026-0772  |Fone: (214)-618-2117
From: d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Date: 28 Dec 92 06:15:45 GMT
Organization: onDEC systems, Dallas, TX

In article <2934509413.4.p00200@psilink.com>,
 "John R Kennedy" <p00200@psilink.com> writes:
> As you may know, the Texas PUC has decided that CallerID is in violation
> of a state wiretap law, and thus has declared the service illegal.  This
Buttheads - another attempt to misinterpret an old law to apply it to new
technology in order to support their own parochial view.

> is not the end of the story, though.  The same thing has happened in many
> other states, with CallerID winning out in most.  So, don't give up (and
> write a letter to the PUC demanding CallerID).
Got an address?  These folks need to hear that there's at least some people
out here that think that's bullcrap.  For some reason, there's a lot of
resistance to CallerID from some groups... however, after hearing several
programs and panel discussions on the subject, I've yet to hear a reason
against CallerID that holds a drop of water.  Most of what I've heard seems to
center around "violation of the calling party's privacy" - most notably when
the ANI (originating number) is unlisted.  Seems to me it wouldn't be so
hard to add a feature that would send a fake but unique ID that could be
mapped back to the ANI in the case of criminal activity.

I'd also like to know how to get better connected into what's happening in
this area... any ideas?
-- 
David G. North, CCP
d_north@ondec.lonestar.org {...!texsun!montagar!ondec!d_north}
onDEC systems                                 "Everyone's crazy but you & me...
P.O.Box 795848, Dallas TX  75379-5848          and come to think about it, I'm
(214)985-1316 ... (214)902-3957                not so sure about you either!"
From: stecz@pencom.com (John Steczkowski)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Establishing Texas Residency?
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:30:59 GMT
Reply-To: stecz@pencom.com
Distribution: tx
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Dec29.165048.16700@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan)  
writes:
> 
> Some time ago the "Doonesbury" comic strip, in making fun of Bush's
> claim of Texas residence, focused on Texas' minimal requirements
> for claiming residence.  A mock application was printed in the strip
> that just indicated an "intent" to live in Texas. I don't recall
>........
> So what is the story?  Can anyone in another state become a Texas
> resident for the following year onwards by sending a letter by
> Dec 31st to John Sharp, or his successor, indicating an intent to
> move to Texas? What other steps would be necessary?  Especially
> in the case of someone genuinely considering the *possibility*
> of relocation.

A lot of people sent the fake applications in, and John Sharp sent the people  
back a fake "Citizen of Texas" certificate.  There was an artical in the  
statesman about this.


--
  John Steczkowski                        stecz@pencom.com
  "Achilles raised his spear, took careful aim, and hurled."
  					    from the Iliad
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From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Establishing Texas Residency?
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:04:34 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

In article <1992Dec31.230624.1026@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) writes:
>
>This is really for someone who, many months from now, may end up in
>Austin.  (And who will not be engaged in a full-time job or business
>in the interim.)  The question I meant to as was: what, if any, are
>the minimum steps (short of an immediate and _complete_ move of
>household effects and family) he could take now for the benefits
>of Texas residency to accrue from as early a date as possible?

For getting the Texas rate at UT Austin (and elsewhere for all I know)
I think you need to show that you've lived in Texas for the previous
year (and going to school at UT during that year doesn't count).

Brendan
-- 
Brendan B. Boerner    Phone: 512/346-8380    MHS: bboerner@novell
Internet: bboerner@novell.com     \  Please use either if replying
   or  Brendan_Boerner@novell.com /  by mail exterior to Novell.
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:36:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.113821.16962@montagar.com> davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) writes:
>	The only reason I don't like it, is I don't want to get on yet
>another stupid mailing list or pigeon-holed into another set of demographics
>everytime I call a store.

More and more stores are starting to use 800 numbers just for this purpose.
At least with Caller-ID you can turn off this feature. If they start using
this, they'll use 800 numbers less and you'll end up with MORE control over
who gets your phone number.

>	What problem (or whose) is this technology trying to solve,

Well, I run a BBS and I would have been glad of it a couple of years back
when some "EL1TE PHREAKE" type started prank-calling us on a regular basis.
It's gotten so bad sometimes that my wife just doesn't answer the phone.

Then there are all the people calling Allstate.

Basically, it lets people like you and me have capability the big boys
have been using for years.

>	If you want a feature that will *help* me, then get a 
>"telemarketer block" feature.

You can bet telemarketers will call with ID blocked, and if you have
anonymous call block they'll get the message. Or they turn it on and
you sit there waiting for someone to give you a $1500 bonus.

Or, if you have a PC, get a modem with Caller-ID capability, then write
a trivial program that watches the phone line. If it sees a number it
recognises it rings you, otherwise it stores the number in a file and
lets the answering machine take the call.

With a Watson card, you can have custom answering machine messages for
everyone who calls you. "I'm sick in bed" is a good one for the boss,
while your friends are getting "The big game starts at two, and I'm taking
a sicky".

The setup SWB has proposed is as good a scheme as any I have seen, though
I'd prefer per-line blocking as well (with anonymous call block per-line
isn't going to ruin the use of the feature).
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Newsgroups: tx.general
From: William.Sanders@f665.n106.z1.fidonet.org (William Sanders)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: The Prisoner Videos
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 10:40:46 -0600

Hey!  Anybody catch this on PBS earlier this year?  Got the complete set copied
or just a few of them?

I am looking for them, and would like to copy them from you.  Some kinda
honoriaum could be arranged, too....
regards
Bill

Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID discussion
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Distribution: tx
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 14:14:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.132646.159@ondec.lonestar.org> d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP) writes:
>I'm almost tempted to try to get copies of the relevant stuff from somebody
>who saved it.  Also seems I oughtta talk to my feed & see about getting
>alt.* added... :):):):):) --NOT-- :{

I wouldn't recommend alt.EVERYTHING, but what is this aversion to picking up
a few useful alt groups? I'd be more leary of picking up talk.* myself.
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From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID modem (was Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:24:14 GMT

In article <51LMMK4@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.152503.14511@novell.com> bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
>>And if that's true, what do we need SWB providing this
>>service for?
>
>Because they're the only ones who can provide the signal.

If Caller ID is as good as Call Return and Call Que, I suspect SWB
won't be providing that signal very often.  Nine times out of 10 I
wasn't able to "Call Return" or "Call Que."  When (or if ...) Caller
ID becomes available, I won't be wasting my money on it.
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [  TSAKC  ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
Newsgroups: tx.general,austin.general
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: repost from comp.dcom.telecom
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 15:10:12 GMT

In article <2934509413.4.p00200@psilink.com> "John R Kennedy" <p00200@psilink.com> writes:
>As you may know, the Texas PUC has decided that CallerID is in violation
>of a state wiretap law, and thus has declared the service illegal.

When did this happen? Last I heard SWBell hadn't even applied for it!
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Disclaimer: I have no commercial interest in Caller-ID, I just want parity
	    with the big boys who put me on their mailing lists every time
	    I call an 800 number.
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Subject: FOR SALE:Two PMI Calipers $200 OBO BY JAN 4th
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:26:55 GMT

Two mint PMI calipers. Currently bracketed for duals on a Yahmaha front. $200
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where.

kris


Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: bade@austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Originator: bade@athena2.austin.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:22:27 GMT
Reply-To: bade@wombat.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin TX             


In article <s6X6VB3w165w@underg.ucf.org>, jc@underg.ucf.org (Mike Herman) writes:
> 
> Have a bike, a 78 Yamaha 750 triple
Joe, don't you have one of these sitting in your garage.....

> 
> I would like to know of any good/bad dealers
> and junkyards in the area.  Also aftermarket shops,
> and any mechanics that dont charge as much as dealers.
The best generic bike mechanic shop arround is probably
TJ's on North Lamar.  Avoid Woods like the plague. 
As for salvage yards the only one I know of is Cycle Salvage
on Burnett.
-- 
Regards,

        Steve
	   "A good programmer, as a function of what he does,
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:01:38 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]Have a bike, a 78 Yamaha 750 triple

hmmm, I've got one of those sitting in my garage...

]I would like to know of any good/bad dealers
]and junkyards in the area.  Also aftermarket shops,
]and any mechanics that dont charge as much as dealers.

rule number 1:  STAY AWAY FROM WOODS FUN CENTER
rule number 2:  DON'T GO NEAR WOODS FUN CENTER
rule number 3:  AVOID WOODS FUN CENTER

follow those simple rules and you'll be fine. I've had good luck with
TJ's although I have heard they've had some problems (usually time
related), apparently they're growing a little too fast. north austin
cycles will probably give you the best price, my personal experience
with them is that you'll need to keep an eye on what they do. while
they have good prices, they've been a little sloppy with the work.
in one case they put my rear adjustors in upsidedown, and in another
they mounted some tires and then leaned my front against a wall against
the brake rotor and warped it just a little. I've only dealt with 
kasson yamaha parts wise, they went out of their way to get me what
I needed, but were a little pricey.

]I am also looking for other bikers in the area
]and events ......

IMHO, the texas splatterfest is a top notch event :-) there are several
semi-organized group ride things usually happening, but most are spur
of the moment things. if you like neon splash squid parties go on a 
woods ride. the local BMW club does monthly ride events, although they're
a little on the sedate side. hopefully that will change in march when
we boot the old geesers and get some young blood in the organization
committee. stop by different shops and see what's on their bulliten
boards.

]send e mail thats the best way to get me.

same here...

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

        mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
        Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards." -- Jerry Dunham
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 21 Dec 1992 22:31:54 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


Hmmmmmm, does S5 have anything to do with BB?  And what about 
this naming convention . . . the last one was Volume I, issue
4 . . since we're in a new year . . will it be Volume II, issue
1 . . . . . or are we gonna stick with sequential real numbers?
(Gosh, I gotta find something better to do that sit at this
@#$)@#($@)$# terminal!!)

> that's all the detail you're gonna get for now (steve, kent, keep your
> mouths shut). email or post your thoughts...

This shouldn't be tooo hard for kent . . . huh? what? I don't know
what you're talking about . . . . 

Which causes me some heartburn now that I think about it . . . We've
got a bunch of DoF's doing the planning . . . I'd hate to get stuck
out in the middle of nowhere with a DoF who doesn't know where we're
going?? or why we're going . . at all??

Mark

p.s. -- Just some . . what was that Bran? . . some random synaptic
	firings?? ;-)
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:47:18 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]So, I can exist without memory as you know it. I just take a little longer
]than others since I have to recreate knowledge for all event streams from
]FUNdamental observations and extrapolate to probable associative patterns
]which essentially serve as memory. 

uh huh...

]That's why I can GO faster than Joe on unforetravelled roads :^) :^)

careful now, you wouldn't want me to bring up that little crash of yours
on that unforetravelled road would you??? :::-O
                                           ^
                                         kent's face as it slid by...
-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

        mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
        Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards." -- Jerry Dunham
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:40:33 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <1h5gkqINN5qf@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>> that's all the detail you're gonna get for now (steve, kent, keep your
>> mouths shut). email or post your thoughts...
>
>Which causes me some heartburn now that I think about it . . . We've
>got a bunch of DoF's doing the planning . . . I'd hate to get stuck
>out in the middle of nowhere with a DoF who doesn't know where we're
>going?? or why we're going . . at all??

Understanding the 'Why' of going isn't something that is contigent on memory
skills or the lack thereof, but is, instead, a precognitive, associative act
drawn from the behavioristic pattern-recognition activities normally ascribed
to 'Intuition'. My 'Intuition' tells me I better 'GO', or Else. Else -
meaning that traits associated with 'Goodness' or 'Wellness' will not be
observed during my daily ritual of bashing on dumputer keyboards.

So, I can exist without memory as you know it. I just take a little longer
than others since I have to recreate knowledge for all event streams from
FUNdamental observations and extrapolate to probable associative patterns
which essentially serve as memory. That's why I can GO faster than Joe on
unforetravelled roads :^) :^)

Usually works.
When it doesn't,
   "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want"

Mount Up! (dum dee dum, RawHide, ... )

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want"

BTW, MylantaII (cherry flavor) works pretty good for heartburn.