HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf)
Subject: Re: shopping hours
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 01:03:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.173129.14783@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie) writes:
> In article <1992Aug20.140732.17353@sinix.UUCP> tim@sinix.UUCP (Tim Bissell) writes:
> >
> >Shopping in Germany sucks bigtime.  Don't ask me about Banks, the Post
> >Office, the Telephone Dictatorship...
> >
> 
> What about Banks, the Post Office, the Telephone Dictatorship...
> 
> I'm moving to Germany in ~3 weeks and I wouldn't mind a few tips.
> 
> 
Don't expect banks to be opened after 4pm (except of Thursdays).  Of course,
they are closed on Saturdays and Sundays.  Post offices are normally
open until 6pm, but they have a long lunchbreak (2-3 hours).

-- Veit


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From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Fussball-Bundesliga, 2.Spieltag
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 09:28:14 GMT
Distribution: world               
Organization: World Violation, Inc.

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*  *  *  * ** * *   * *    *         *    * *    *  *
****  *  * * ** *   * ***  **** **** *    * * ** ****
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2. Spieltag

VfB Stuttgart       - 1.FC Nuernberg      3-0 (2-0)
1.FC Saarbruecken   - Karlsruher SC       2-0 (1-0)
Borussia M'Gladbach - Vfl Bochum          1-1 (1-1)
Borussia Dortmund   - Schalke 04          0-2 (0-1)
Wattenscheid 09     - Bayer Uerdingen     1-1 (1-0)
Bayern Muenchen     - 1.FC K'lautern      1-0 (1-0)
1.FC Koeln          - Eintracht Frankfurt 0-1 (0-1)
Dynamo Dresden      - Hamburger SV        1-1 (1-0)
Werder Bremen       - Bayer Leverkusen    1-1 (1-1)


Tabelle

Platz  Mannschaft           Spiele  Tore  Punkte

 1.    Bayern Muenchen        2      4-0    4-0
 2.    VfB Stuttgart          2      4-1    3-1
 3.    1.FC Saarbruecken      2      3-1    3-1
 4.    Wattenscheid 09        2      5-4    3-1
 5.    Eintracht Frankfurt    2      2-1    3-1
 6.    Schalke 04             2      5-4    2-2
 7.    Karlsruher SC          2      4-4    2-2
 8.    Vfl Bochum             2      3-3    2-2
 9.    Bayer Leverkusen       2      2-2    2-2
       Hamburger SV           2      2-2    2-2
       Dynamo Dresden         2      2-2    2-2
12.    1.FC Kaiserslautern    2      1-1    2-2
       Werder Bremen          2      1-1    2-2
14.    Borussia M'Gladbach    2      3-5    1-3
15.    Bayer Uerdingen        2      2-4    1-3
16.    Borussia Dortmund      2      1-4    1-3
17.    1.FC Nuernberg         2      0-3    1-3
18.    1.FC Koeln             2      0-2    0-4


---
Kai Voigt         !  Roses are red,
Werftstrasse 2    !  Violets are blue,
2300 Kiel 14      !  You think this will rhyme
Germany           !  But it ain't gonna.
From: An-Ly Yao <anlyyao@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:11 PDT
Subject: deutsche Literatur zu Taiwan
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1473000034:000:861
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!anlyyao    Aug 21 08:11:00 1992


 
Erste Station seit meiner "Abwanderung" nach Suedostasien war Taiwan. Noch
in Deutschland wollte ich mich darauf vorbereiten, fand aber - speziell
im politischen Bereich - nur rechtslastige Literatur.
 
Wie sieht es in Deutschland jetzt mit Literatur zu Taiwan aus? Ist das ueber-
haupt ein Thema? Wieviel ist ueber die Ereignisse in Taiwan speziell seit
1988 bekannt? Sind es nur Computeristen und Touristen, die Taiwan und Thai-
land auseinanderhalten koennen? Oder ist die politische Entwicklung dieses
Gebietes (dessen Devisenreserven uebrigens diejenigen Deutschlands uebertref-
fen) ein peinliches Tabu-Thema in Deutschland?
 
Falls jemandem in dieser Newsgroup zufaellig ein neueres (deutschsprachiges)
Buch ueber Taiwan in die Hand fallen sollte, bitte Info an anlyyao@igs.apc.org
(das ist EcoNet in San Francisco), Goetz Kluge, Seoul, Korea (ROK).
 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.german:5721 misc.forsale:23926 rec.travel:11922
From: grob@opera.chorus.fr (Lori Grob)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,misc.forsale,rec.travel
Subject: Re: !!!!!! Frankfurt -> Toronto -> Halifax for $100 !!!!!!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:05:39 GMT
Reply-To: mg@chorus.fr
Organization: Chorus systemes, 6 av. Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines, France

In article <1992Aug17.141427.5429@dragon.acadiau.ca>, alan@dragon.acadiau.ca (Alan W. McKay) writes:
%% I have a 2 way ticket from Halifax to Frankfurt via Toronto, but I am
%% only going 1 way.  I have to specify a return date before I leave, so
%% you can pick any flight (Air Canada) between August 28 and October 28.
%% With it you can check your baggage either to Toronto or to Halifax.
%% 
%% $100 US (DM 150) takes it.  We'll make arrangements to meet in Germany
%% and I'll sell it to you there, but reply soon, as I will not have 
%% electronic mail after this Friday.
%% 
%% -- 
%% --
%% Alan W. McKay		| (902)542-2201.158	| Wolfville, N.S. Canada
%% alan@acadiau.ca		| Acadia University	| SUB Box 6008, B0P 1Z1
%% ----------------------------------------- My Canada includes Quebec -----

How does this work for international flights? Surely 
they will check your passport? I guess you can (the original)
owner go through all the formalities of check in 
and then before going through passport control give the ticket
to the buyer. I know that sometimes they just glance at
your passport. 

Has anyone ever had a problem with this? What if your luggage
doesn't arrive or you have some problem during the trip in
terms of having to identify your luggage with your ticket 
and passport? (This happens on international flights once in
a while) Am I just worrying about the unlikely? 

Its just that I have been curious for a long time about
how you travel internationally in someone else's ticket.

During the Gulf war, at least in Paris they checked your
passport against your ticket and boarding pass a second time
at the gate before you could get on the plane.


-- 
L.S. Grob
Chorus syste`mes			phone +33-1-30-64-82-17
6 avenue Gustave Eiffel			fax   +33-1-30-57-00-66	
F78182 Saint Quentin-en-Yvelines	email grob@chorus.fr	
FRANCE					      grob%chorus.fr.uunet.uu.net
--------
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 11:17:06 CDT
From: Irene Marquez <U37533@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: I LOVE GERMANY!
Distribution: world

In article <1803.178.uupcb@wugate.wustl.edu>,
carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) says:

CC>Uh, oh! To what part of Germany are you going?
CC>I certainly don't look German, too, and I'm German. I warn you about the
CC>Eastern part! Please tell me where are you going. In certain parts or
CC>cities of Germany is a considerable risk.

I hope to be seeing the south of germany i'll probably be going as
far east as Munich, but I don't think that was the 'east' you were
talking about.  I think I'll do alright.  I'm not worried about it.
But thanks for your concern.  =)

Irene
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: GERMAN CLASS
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:03:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <16847945E.NETOPRBL@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu>, NETOPRBL@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu
(Christopher Lane) writes:
>In article <_y6m_na.rdc@netcom.com>
>rdc@netcom.com (Roger David Carasso) writes:
>
>>carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca)  writes:
>>>Very funny indeed. Why would German not fulfill this requirement?
>>>At least, your girlfriend is supposed to get educated in another
>>>language than American.
>>
>>Oh, American is a language?  Apparently you do not speak English.
>Hmmmm the English speak english, Americans speak american.
>Only an extremely narrow viewed bigot would see his language as being
>'english' that generic term Americans have for their universal language
>that all the world must speak.


Of course, you sound just as bad as Carasso when you make generalizations such
as that.  Yes, we call it English, but it is definately American English, as
opposed to British English.  Calling me a narrow viewed bigot for saying I
speak English is absurd.  Would it be narrow minded to call German German,
although the different dialects around Germany differ a great deal?

We all think Carasso is an ass, at least that seems to be the general
consensus, but if you want to flame him at least do it in a way that doesn't
implicate all Americans or else you are just as bad as he is.


>>
>>>That makes her belong to the 0.002% of the
>>>Americans, who have heard of another language.
>And I speak two and i'm american...does that make me in the 0.0001%? GRIN
>>
>>The reason for knowing anything is based on need.  I argue that
>>america is so big that there is seldom a need to deal with foreign
>>countries.  European countries are the size of USA states, of which we
>>have 50.  Saying you know about germany is the same as saying you know
>>california, except we have better looking women and our grandfathers
>>weren't fascists.
>This would be funny if it weren't so sad.
>This sounds like the engineers at my college who claim they don't need
>english/writing classes becuase they don't write in their profession.


By the way, I'm an Engineer with a minor in writing. :-)


>
>==================================
>Christopher Lane
>netoprbl@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu
>Raleigh , North Carolina, USA
>My opinions are my own, the university has no opinions.
>Not all Americans are obnoxious twits, just people like Carosso.
>==================================
>
-- 


Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handy - Whenever I see something
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         screech across a room and latch onto a guy's neck,
215-758-0865            and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have
                        to laugh because, What is that thing?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Subject: Re: Hope me helped
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:12:47 GMT

zheng@cc.helsinki.fi writes:

>I am a chinese living in Helsinki Finland, I am planning to visit
>a germany ssmall city called MARTINSRIED, It's post-code is 8033,
>but I don't know anything about it.

From the post code you can conclude that it must be *very* near to
Muenchen (Munich), or even a part of it. Just go there and ask.

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to  \\  Only my personal opinions... 
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
                                   or  peterk@public.sub.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.indian
From: oli@math.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Bonten)
Subject: Re: German transit visa: avoid flying thru europe
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:04:15 GMT

brahme@atpg.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:

>So If german transit visa policy bothers you; just stop flying by
>Lufthansa, as simple as that and petition that air india be privatized.

Unfortunately not only with Lufthansa people will have to change planes at
Frankfurt, but this airport seems to be a major turntable of international
traffic. And having to obtain a transit visa is not the worst trouble I've
heard from people from 3rd world countries. I've heard that those visa are 
denied regularly to people from some countries, and that airlines and travel 
agents do not inform their customers about this practise.
--
Heute hack ich, morgen crack ich, uebermorgen hol ich mir dem SysOp sein Login.
Ach wie gut dass niemand weiss, dass ich oli@math.rwth-aachen.de heiss.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: rdc@pelican.cit.cornell.edu (Bob Cowles)
Subject: Info on area around PAssau?
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:41:42 GMT
Organization: Cornell Info. Tech.


My parents are in their late 70's and we would like to take them to
visit the place that my mother's ancestors came from -- the town of
Grainet that is north and east of Passau, near the Czech border.

My wife and I have visited southern Bavaria a number of times but
usually stayed in the area between Munich, Innsbruck, and Salzburg;
so we do not have any experience with the area north of Passau.
Does anyone have information about that area, places to go, things
to see, places to stay or avoid?  Any information would be appreciated.

We are tentatively planning to visit in mid-October of this year.

Bob Cowles
rdc1@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: korschi@goofy.uni-mainz.de (Ralf Korschinsky)
Subject: Re: WITZBOLDE
Followup-To: soc.culture.german
Keywords: Stupidity, Ignorance
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:30:28 GMT


 hinkel@gw.wmich.edu wrote:

>>Es kommt mir {einem Amerikaner] vor, dass einige Witzbolde, die sich in
>>NEWS.SOC.CULT.GERMAN einmelden, beschraenkte Ahnung von der deutschen Kultur
>>und besonders der deutschen Sprache haben. Das schwarze Brett wird immer
>>schlimmer. Liegt es jemandem, die Sache auf deutsch zu besprechen?

Nun ja, das wuerde 99.998% der Amerikaner von diesem Brett ausschliessen...
(die Zahl stammt aus diesem Brett aus einer FLAMEnews)

Ich finde die teilweise schon nicht mehr lustigen Dummheiten von einigen
Deiner Landsleuten insofern gut, als dass ich mich selbst beobachten kann,
ob mich der Schwachsinn zu bekannten Vorurteilen ueber das Kulturvolk USA
hinreisst...

Lass mal lieber, oder besser: translate this into perfect&POLITE am. english,
for that those who did not understand german can also enjoy it.
I believe in your knowledge of your 1st language: You are better in than me!

KORSCHINSKY@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: GERMAN CLASS
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:58:19 GMT

RDC writes:

#Saying you know about germany is the same as saying you know
#california, except we have better looking women 

Hey, I have seen some good looking German ladies here and there. But
if you are really interested in my opinion, Hungarian ladies leave
the rest of the world behind.

#and our grandfathers weren't fascists.

Yeh, but what about our grandchildren? You might be focusing on
Europe waiting for the next Hitler to rise, while he may pop up
right behind your back. Or didn't you hear of Willis Carto and
David Duke?


-Danny Keren.
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Fascist Parties in G.
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:36:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

Hi!

BM>The Republikaner are a fascist party! And unfortunately they are not the
BM>only successful right-radical party. I would count the CSU as right-radical
BM>but that is of course only my opinion.

It is. The CSU acknowledges at least the constituition and they
acknowledge the democratic system, which is the crucial difference.
But, for my part, they could go to hell, too. :-)

BM>Beatrice

greetinx, Carl.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Mer lasse den Dom in Koelle...
                                                 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: Mike.Hoffmann@sniap.mchp.sni.de (Mike Hoffmann)
Subject: Re: Fascist Parties in G. (somewhat long)
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG, AP 712
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:46:02 GMT

Some discussion has been going on as to which parties of the New Right
should be called fascist, nazist or "merely" right-wing.

Please take into account some facts that make prosecuting these parties
as NeoNazi very difficult. It's a sad fact of history that extremist parties
are experts when it comes to exploiting the liberty granted them by democratic
systems to permit them to smash exactly that system.

It is very easy for, say the Republikaner, to give themselves a program that
is unattackable and gives the party an organisational appearance of being
fully democratic and in support of the Federal Republic.

When they then show their true faces in the smoke-filled and drunken
athmosphere of beer-tents and inns, they can always say it is just that:
"exagerated" speeches to appeal to the audience.

Much of their real aims and goals are worked upon in underground operation
or by lunatic fringe groups to which they are careful to never be openly
connected to.

How is a democratic society to act? There just is *no way* to simply accuse
them like "we *know* you are Nazis, so we're going to prosecute you".
This is maybe an inherent flaw of democracy. There is a concept of the
"wehrhafte Demokratie" though (how do you translate that?). It means that
the leaders (executive & jurisdiction) should actively take a stance to
prevent the destruction of a democratic system. But this can only be an
act of balancing between the accusations of installing a "police state"
by the liberals (in the American sense of the term) and not acting tough
enough.

Indeed it is a farce though, that the politicians in Germany have taken
a very tough attitude for years against left-extremist, pro-communist
terrorists, but are somewhat more lenient when it comes to Nazis. I
wouldn't even go so far as to call them secretly sympathetic to right-wings.
The reason might be much more pragmatic: the NeoNazis attack asylants,
foreigners, minorities. The RAF struck where it hurts: the politicians and
leaders directly. *Their* precious asses were in danger.

Cynical, but *hey* what do you expect?

It waits to be seen if, when the Nazi groups should get bolder and they
also start attacking leaders aloof, the counter-strike will be as hard
as against leftist terrorism.

I think that was long enough.
Mike

P.S.: someone wrote that the CSU is a party of the extreme right. Nah!!
The CSU is exactly what the "C" in their name suggests. Christian, Clerical,
Catholic. A bunch of reactionary backwarders who don't have the brains to
recognize that their time was over on the day the last "witch" was burned
on a stake.

-- 
Mike Hoffmann, Siemens-Nixdorf AG, SNI AP 712  
INTERNET: Mike.Hoffmann@sniap.mchp.sni.de
"Bosnia has no oil [as opposed to Kuwait]." (unknown citizen of Sarajevo)
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 11:30:26 EDT
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Survey on summaries of Kayhan highlights
 <2A87E3B7.29073@noiro.acs.uci.edu> <19212@drutx.ATT.COM>
 <1992Aug12.150042.20591@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <kot.d100g@lab.ntt.jp>


It would be uncivilized of me not to read KH. So, go on and post the
highlights, please.


Many thanks,

RezA
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Editorial in N.Y. Times (8/18/92)
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:52:37 GMT
Organization: none

In article <TOWFIQ.92Aug19101000@nighthawk.clearpoint.com> towfiq@Microdyne.COM writes:

 @  The following editorial appeared in Tuesday's New York Times:
 @
 @			     A Death in Iran
 @
 @Despite recurrent reports that Iran has become "moderate," persecution
 @of members of the Bahai faith has intensified.  On March 17, a
 @businessman named Bahman Samandari was summoned to the notorious Evin
 @prison in Teheran, where he was secretly executed the next day.

1. what is their source? Supposedly "secretly" means that the Iranian
   gov. has not admitted the alleged execution.

2. *Assume* that the execution did take place. What was he charged with?
   If the execution was simply for being Baha'i, then the gov. should be
   executing all baha'is in Iran. Was he perhaps a Baha'i AND a criminal?
   Many Muslims have been executed. That does NOT make the gov. anti-Islamic.
      
 - Farzin Mokhtarian
   farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp
                              
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: news@fmiapd.com
Subject: TEST
Organization: Fujitsu Microelectroics Inc
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:25:42 GMT

TEST TEST
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: maza@shear.engin.umich.edu (Karim Mazaheri Body)
Subject: Re: Survey on summaries of Kayhan highlights
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:30:42 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: maza@shear.engin.umich.edu


In article <kot.d100g@lab.ntt.jp>, farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:
> 
> 
> So far I have posted a couple of articles in which I summarized
> the highlights of Kayhan Havaii. This should have given people
> a taste of the kind of news it has. I like to continue ONLY IF
> there is sufficient interest out there to justify the effort.
> That is why I am asking people to let me know whether they are
> interested in reading those summaries (that is all, you are
> NOT required to believe all of it  :-) ) So if you are
> interested, please post a short message to SCI (so that others
> can see it too) clearly indicating your interest. If you are
> not interested, please do not post a reply at all (negative
> replies will be ignored anyway since those people can simply
> skip to the next article). 
>       
> So, here we go ...
>     
>  - Farzin
>    


At this time, KH is certainly one of the best sources to get news and
quite a lot of interesting articles about IRAN, and certainly attempts
of all people who bring part of it to SCI are well appreciated by most
readers of SCI.

Karim Mazaheri
-- 
	Karim Mazaheri Body  	mail: maza@caen.engin.umich.edu	
        University of Michigan, Aerospace Eng. Dept.
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: More Iranian sports trivia (By Kamran Iranpour)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:34:38 GMT

In article keivan@brahms.udel.edu (Keivan Esfarjani) writes:
|> In article mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
|> >
|> >It has been a couple of days since these questios were posted, so I
|> >will make an attempt to answer some of them. Thanks to Kambiz for
|>                                                         ^^^^^^
|> Can't you read up there? It says KAMRAN!!
|> Why is everybody confusing these two names??
|> 
|> Regards,
|> K1


KAmbiz khAn don't worry,  it was just a mistake.  :-)

-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department (415) 723-0009         /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Women's track and field in Iran
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:42:21 GMT


If you wonder about the state of women atheletes in Iran, here is
something I found interesting.

=================================================================

From DonyA ye varzesh #1039 1371/5/10

A track meet was held in Tehran for 5 days. The winners in different
events were:


    Name                event           winning record
    --------------------------------------------------
    Farnaz Ghorbani     60m                8.0  sec
    Marjan Mousavi      60m-hurdles        9.9  sec
    Mehrnaz Tolou-shams 200m              31.7  sec
    Foroozan Abdolali   400m            1:07.54 min
    Mandana Hamdkhoda   800m            2:40.4  min
    Mandana Hamdkhoda   1500m           5:42    min
    Leila Vaghari       long jump       4.60    m
    Rima Ashegh         shot put        9.80    m
    Mariam Mousavi      high jump       1.42    m
    Foroozan Abdolali   pentathlon      ???????????

I should add that this meet was held in an *outdoor* stadium, and over
100 atheletes competed.

    --mack

--
When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian