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From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: malcolm x & boyz in the hood
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:40:07 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.movies

am i alone in finding both malcolm x and boyz in the hood mediocre if not
bad movies. many critics seem to think otherwise and have praised them
highly in the years of their release. does anyone else get the impression
that this praise is the result of their sympathy for the subject matter
rather than the actual quality of the movie? do the right thing was a
wonderful movie, imho, but lee has been slacking off ever since and trying
to make up for it with politics. while we're at it, dances with wolves
wasn't so great either.
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From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Subject: Re: How to Succeed in Business...
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:58:44 GMT

In article <2B4B60DD.20165@news.service.uci.edu>,
jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley) writes:
>>2. I know from what has been written about _Tru_ that Robert Morse did not
>>   appear on Broadway between _How to Succeed_ and _Tru_.  What *was* he
>>   doing?  Something theatrical, I hope--he has a great talent.
>
> He was in a few movies ... but I can't remember any titles off the
> top of my head.  One's something of a cult classic though.

Are you perhaps thinking of "The Loved One"?
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From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: Re: Suggestions...
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:41:03 GMT


In article <C0BG8p.L4D@news.iastate.edu> s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>In article <3974@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>>
>>Hi all:
>>
>>
>>I have a taste for good, eccentric movies that create an exciting,
>>interesting, funny and sometimes disgusting world of their own.
>>Examples: *Brazil*, *Baghdad Cafe*, *After Hours*, *The Cook, the 
>>Thief, ...*, etc.  Any other movies of that sort you can think of?
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ahmed B.

Parents
Heathers

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From: jhesse@netcom.com (John Hesse)
Subject: Re: Weird Movies
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:29:25 GMT

In article <1id3avINNbf7@agate.berkeley.edu> annie@garnet.berkeley.edu  (Anne Jessop) writes:
>
>
>Don't forget such alt.cult-movies favorites as:
>Nekromantik I and II
>Basket Case I - III
>Freaks  (absolutely a classic)
>Chained for Life
>Satan's Sadists (actually, anything that could be called "psychotronic"
>qualifies as wierd in my book)
>True Stories
>Mondo Cane
>Spider Baby 
>pretty much anything with Joe Bob Briggs's picture on the box
>Pee-wee's Big Adventure and BigTop Pee-wee
>all those Reanimator films
>Wise Blood (better to read the book -- even tho this is John Huston, it's
>not a very good adaptation.  Except for Harry Dean Stanton.)
>Cockfighter (good adaptation of a Charles Willerford novel)
>O Lucky Man
>Deadly Weapons (starring Chesty Morgan and her truly enormous talents. 
>This is not a porno flick.)
>
>I'm running out of things off the top of my head, but these are definitely
>some of my favorites.  More later if other classics come to mind :)
>
>-annie
>
>

Eraserhead
RHPS
Andy Warhol's Bad
The Nutty Professor (sorry)

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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: videos on pal not ava
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:01:19 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

JWP>In fairness to the British Board of Film Classification, it should perhaps
JWP>be pointed out that the reason A Clockwork Orange is not available here
JWP>either on video or for cinema presentation is that Stanley Kubrick will
JWP>not allow it. Exactly why we have been singled out is a mystery, but a Londo
JWP>cinema that showed it last spring is facing possible court action on copyrig
JWP>infringement. The film is however not "banned" in censorship terms.

When the movie was first released, there were reports of copycat
violence by real-life street gangs.  Kubrick agreed to withdraw the
film film England completely, and he hasn't changed his mind since.
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From: saidel@lobster.rutgers.edu (william Saidel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Lenigrad Cowboys Go America
Summary: What is the story of this movie?
Keywords: strange
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:37:23 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I saw this strange movie titled Leningrad (sorry for mispelling in
Subject) Cowboys Go America. It is a Finish Movie. Does anyone have a
clue as to the story about or behind this flic?

RSVP here or directly to saidel@clam.rutgers.edu. 
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From: d89-rbi@oddjob.nada.kth.se (Ron Birk)
Subject: Re: Seat reservations in movie theatres
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:32:11 GMT

In article <p972vk-@rpi.edu> spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:

>   In article <bruce.0di7@zuhause.MN.ORG> bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht) writes:
>   >Does anyone know of other theatres doing this,
>   >and if so, do you prefer it? 't
>   >
>   I hope they don't start doing this in the US. I usually like to sit in one
>   of the front rows, and would resent having a seat assigned to me. I guess
>   this is a double standard, since I go to concerts and plays all the time
>   and rely on ordering long in advance to get good seats. But I just don't think
>   it's a great idea for movies.
>
>   Some theaters heer will let you reserve a ticket with a credit card by phone,
>   but you still have to find your own seat. I think this is a good idea,
>   and it turns out to be very convenient at times. 

Here in Sweden the biggest theatres has seat assignments in the first days, like
friday to sunday (depending on the movie). I like that a lot! Then I can buy my
tickets in advance, have the seats I want (I just tell where I want to be placed)
and come whenever I want to the movie. Don't have to come very early and start
looking for a seat. Later on after the first days you just bye your ticket and sit
wherever you want.

The system in many theatres are all computerized. You just order your place and
it prints out the ticket, seat number etc.
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The biggest flop ever?
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:35:48 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

I tried to E-mail this, but it bounced.

To: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com

>I was discussing Heaven's Gate a while back when I started wondering
>if it was the biggest flop ever. Only one shallow, inconclusive
>way to decide: take a poll!

Empire magazine published a list of the top ten money losers of all time.
Unfortuantly _The Adventures of Baron Munchausen_ (A definate favorite
of mine) was at the very top of the list.

I'll post the list if there is any interest.

Other flops off the top of my head:

Bonfire of the Vanities
Hudson Hawk
Blade Runner
Ishtar

Greg Bole                            "We ride...to hell.  Or to glory.  
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         It depends on your point of view."
                                Errol Flynn in _They Died With Their Boots On_
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From: cad0410@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Cecelia A. Dorn)
Subject: Who remembers this old flick?  PRIZES!! PRIZES!!
Reply-To: cad0410@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:27:06 GMT

Okay, here's one for all you trivia junkies out there.  Anybody remember
a show called something like "Monster Movie Matinee" that was on Sat.
afternoons in the mid/late 60's that was hosted by Igor and a gentleman
addressed only as "Kind Host" (you only got to see his creepy gesturing
hand while he introduced the afternoon's flick).  Now if you ever WERE
a guest of the Kind Host I know you could not have forgetten "The Screaming
Skull", or "The Thing from Outer Space", or "Invaders from Mars", or
"The Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman", or any of the other B treasures
of science fiction and horror that he gratiously presented each Saturday.

Wait now, put down your hands...that's not my question yet.  My question has
to do with a particular movie that I saw a couple of times on that show.
This movie was about witches and All Hollow's Eve and reincarnation.
It has stuck in my mind for all these years and I'd love to see it again
sometime.  The movie opens with a night shot, a lot of fog, a lamp post,
and a "woman of the evening" leaning against that lamppost.  A man's arm
extends from the fog to light the cigarette she is bringing to her lips.
The woman's name is (get this) Diana Love.  The man wants her to participate
in an experiment that he is conducting back at his place.  Being the
adventurous type she agrees.

Next scene, his place, she gets hypnotized and travels back in time to
some former life (circa Middle Ages).  I think she then finds herself
in a small cottage in the country.  A weird old woman, Maid Meg (I think)
appears to help Diana (I don't remember her middle ages name) cook or
something.  They talk, they cook, a bad witch appears with a couple
of strange imps (Billy Barty is one of these imps -- he's the only
actor that I knew by name) and they give Maid Meg some mischievous
bad time and then they disappear (via bad special effects).  There
are a lot of other bad special effects throughout the film and it
all culminates on All Hollow's Eve when the witches all get together
for some purpose which I can't remember anymore.  

Basically that's all the plot that I can remember except for a semi-
surprising (lame) twist ending that I won't reveal just in case anyone
else ever wants to see this thing.  I remember being impressed by the
eerieness of the movie and the way imps and witches kept popping in
and out even though I could tell at my young age that this movie
was pretty poorly made.

All the same, I'd really like to know the name of this flick if
anyone else can remember it...

Thanks in advance,
Cea

(P.S. I lied about the prizes)
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From: alfa@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Laura Walker)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:59:57 GMT

anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
>How about some that DON'T belong there! Most of the movies listed fit the above
>criteria fine, however some are just way out of place:
>Barfly
>The Grifters
>L.A. Story
>The Lost Boys
>Miller's Crossing
>Rear Window
>Shampoo

>I mean, come on, SHAMPOO?! What was weird, eccentric or original about Shampoo?
>Unless there is another version besides the Warren Beatty version. 

My apologies - I meant the John Water's film HAIRSPRAY (I've never even seen
Shampoo), which does most certainly belong here.

>And why is"Barfly" so weird or eccentric? Just because it's about alcoholics?

Barfly is riotously funny to a small group of people with a strange sense of
humor.  Barfly is ridiculously pathetic to the general moviegoing audience.
If you think Baryfly is just about alcoholics then you fall into the second
group.

>The Dream Team
are you serious?
>The Jerk
maybe
>The Addams Family
if you're talking about the tv show, agreed. the movie was a hollywood
ripoff (except for a few shining moments).
>Frankenstein Unbound (Roger Corman Version)
didn't see it.
>Kiss of the Spider Woman
Not weird in a good, funny way but weird in a very sad way.
>Saturn 3
didn't see it.
>Quest for Fire
didn't see it.
Night of the Lepus
didn't see it.
>Dreamscape
agreed.
>Buffalo Bill and the Indians (This one may be stretching it)
didn't see it.
>The World Accocrding to Garp
(agreed wholeheartedly - but the weird comes from the book).

I could flame you on a few of your choices, but I won't.  You see, I
know that personal opinions can't be wrong.  They can only be personal.

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From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: Name this movie
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:48:40 GMT

I came this across this old film on PBS...

It starred Robert Mitchum as a hustler, Raymond Burr as a
fugitive that wanted to take his identity, and Vincent Price
as a clueless husband that comes to his rescue...

The action takes place on a tropical island. I think one of
the leading ladies was Jane Russell I'm not sure.

What was this movie?

Dan
crafts@athena.mit.edu
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From: pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN)
Subject: Re: Two More Cents on <<Chaplin>>
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:29:35 GMT

   More on Chaplin...
   O.K.  Robert played Chaplin really well.  It's just too bad he 
couldn't save the movie.  
   And I agree that the wives were shuffled on and off camera.  But so
was every other single event in the movie.  It reminded me of Hoffa, not
just 'cause it made a guy with large problems out to be a hero, but 
because it was in no way a biography, just a series of flashes from a
life, barely ties together by a narrative.
   At least the kleenex treatment of the wives had a symbolic meaning.
That's how Chaplin treated them himself.
From: garretso@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Leon Garretson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Name This Obscure Old Movie
Keywords: A song...
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:16:45 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <97-3szk@rpi.edu> spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
>In article <1iv4p6INN5cd@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>>
>>It's called "Citizen of Oz".  It's about a girl who is 
>>transported (by tornado) to a land beyond the rainbow,
>>where she and her dog, Rosebud, have many wacky adventures.
>
>Don't forget the famous closing line in this film: "Judy, Judy, Judy - come with
>me to the damn stinking Cazbah!" 

	Or the segue into song: "Play it again, Toto. We're not in Casablanca
	anymore....Oh My!"
From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Suggestions for recent "foreign" films
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:49:41 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.movies

In <31DEC199210535242@utkvx1.utk.edu> takoosma@utkvx1.utk.edu (Toby Koosman) writes:

>A local movie house which used to show $1 movies and serve beer to your
>table--it was a good place to see Wayne's World--has decided to change its
>image. They got rid of the tables and the beer, installed conventional (but
>rather comfy) theater seats, jacked up the ticket price and started showing
>foreign* films, a rare treat in this town.  For openers they showed Waterland
>and The Best Intentions.   We met the manager and found out he knows nothing
>about foreign films and is open to suggestions.  Anybody got any?  I'm
>specifically interested in new films.  For starters, can somebody tell me the
>name of the latest film by Jhang Yimou, the director of Raise the Red Lantern?

raise the red lantern is a wonderful movie, not as interesting visually as
the director's previous outing, ju dou, but the story is much more engaging
i found. don't be put off by the openning scene which may have you believe
this is some sermon on the plight of women, it is about that of course, but
it is also an interesting tale of household intrigue in which characters
are not what they first seem to be.

some other recent foreign films you might wish to consider are 'careful' by
guy maddin (canada), 'enchanted april' (britain), 'howard's end' (britain),
'angel at my table' by jane campion (new zealand), 'tous les matins du
monde' (france), 'masala' by shrinivas krishna (canada), 'zentropa' by lars
von trier (danish?), 'drowning by numbers' by peter greenaway (this one's
more of a crowd pleaser than the cook, the thief... or prospero's books),
'edward II', by derek jarman (britain), 'the adjuster' by atom egoyan
(canada), 'highway 61' by bruce macdonald (canada), 'black rain' by shohei
innamura (japan), 'akira' (japanese animation), the cannes commercial
festival (mostly foreign), etc.
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: x can't make money
Date: 5 Jan 1993 14:26:41 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1993Jan5.1489.35978@channel1> "eric walker"  
<eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
> TM>I repeat myself:
> TM>I am not surprised "X" is not making money. I think that a large
> TM>number of moviegoers heard the words "Malcolm X" and dismissed
> TM>the movie as "preaching that white people are evil."
> 
> There's another reason why MALCOLM X isn't a blockbuster, and that
> reason has nothing to do with racism:
> 
> The movie is three-and-a-quarter hours long, and this means the
> theaters can only show it twice per day, or three times at the  
most.
> Compare this with the FIVE or even SIX times per day a theater can
> show a movie that's 90 minutes to two hours long - and sell tickets  
to
> each show.  This is a very important reason why X has "only" made
> about $40 million.
> 

Your reasoning sounds good. However, remember that several of
the biggest blockbusters in history were long movies: Gone
with the Wind, Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Lawrence of Arabia.
There are others. All of these films are longer than 3 hours, and
all made tons of money.

--
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Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  

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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randolph Sopicki)
Subject: Candy
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 17:16:20 PST

Has anyone seen a copy of Candy on VHS? 
Please e-mail.
From: hphri@usho26.hou281.chevron.com (P.H.Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Bond books and movies
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:05:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

In article <1if5pmINNj2p@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.165144.2986@b8.b8.ingr.com>  
>anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
>>| 
>>|BTW - During their recent James Bond week, TNT showed the original 1 
>>|hour long TV version of Casino Royale that was shown as a live show in 
>>|the 50s (1956 I believe).  It starred Barry Nelson as James (and 
>>|included Peter Lorre as the villan). So, technically, I guess you could 
>>|say Casino Royale was made as a "serious" production.
>> 
>>I don't know how serious you can call it, since James Bond was an  
>>American and everyone kept refering to him as "Jimmy."
>
>Wrong movie.  You are thinking of the movie version of Casino Royale,
 ^^^^^^^^^^^ Not!
>which starred Woody Allen, among others.  The previous
>poster was referering to a much older TV version of the book,
>which TNT unearthed somehow.

He was thinking about the right movie.  I have the tape at the house (I
bought it at Target about 2 years ago for $9.95).  Barry Nelson was an 
American James Bond and they did call him Jimmy.

Phil
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From: bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams)
Subject: Re: Weird Films and how we get to see them
Summary: Agree with desire to open a repertoire theatre
Keywords: Flaming Creatures, Eraserhead, Slacker
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:04:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.160650.29417@b23a.b23a.ingr.com> alfa@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Laura Walker) writes:
; 
; (My dream is to open a coffee/film house in one of the old theaters in town,
; kind of like they did in Tampa.  I saw Last Temptation of Christ at the
; BeauxArts house in St. Petersburg, Florida -- Jim Morrison's old haunt. These
; are my favorite memories - strange movies in strange places.)
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Yes!  After having finished reading MIDNIGHT MOVIES (I had only intended
reading a few chapters but I couldn't seem to stop), I have this incredible
urge to open somekind of place to show all these great films they talk
about.  I just need a couple hundred thousand dollars, and an interested
public -- also the fact that our local repertoire theatre here was torn
down a few years ago doesn't help any.  I have always had this dream that
maybe I could bring it back to life, you know like the Phoenix thing rising
from the ashes.  Hoz'about this:  I will make this great film about a theatre
that through the great efforts of a dedicated film fan, is reconstructed using
the funds generated by the profits from a film he made about its reconstruction.
Now if I can only find some backers... hehehe

Ben.

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