HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Wolfgang Ley)
Subject: Re: *sigh* Help with GEMVIEW!!!
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU CLAUSTHAL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:44:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.164341@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de>
cbvetter@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Chris Vetter) writes:
 
>In article <1992Nov12.035609.8805@ac.dal.ca>, cossett@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>    I now have Gemview 1.1 but it will not work. Whenever I
>> try to load the prg it gives me a TOS #35 error, or it
>> simply bombs. Could anyone help me out?
>>
>
>Seems to me your file is corrupt, try to get another copy...
>By the way, there is GEMView 2.00 somewhere out there.
>
 
Try to get Gemview 2.01 via FTP from ftp.tu-clausthal.de (139.174.1.3)
/pub/atari/graphics/viewer/gview201.lzh
 
Bye,
  Wolfgang.
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: Mouse wander - acceptable?
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:07:14 GMT

otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO) writes:

>My ATARI dealer sold me a mouse for my STe 1040 which frequently starts
>to wander around the screen by itself - without me touching the mouse.
>The problem is of course that in some programs, if it pulls down a menu,
>the program will not respond to keyboard inputs.  

>My dealer tells me this is common to all non-atari mice, and is due to
>"very strong signals from the mouse". In my opinion this has rather to do
>with "very much noise from the mouse". Should I accept what he says, or
>is this behavior of my mouse unacceptable? Any authorized opinions are
>very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

I'm no expert, but have a non-ST mouse myself and never had this problem.
I personally wouldn't accept this (for what's that worth...:)


My .02...

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:50:02 -0800

In <Bxwx1n.9H5@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
		kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:


>I thought I'd never see the day when Compute! (er... Compuke!) magazine gave
>any non-PC or non-Mac the time of day.  The end must be near...

	You must be new. ;-) I still have a 1/2 dozen issues of Compute
ST kicking around. For it's day, it was one of the best ST mags around,
though pricy, but also one of the first to include a disk. No quite as
techy as STart was for it's first year, but a good magazine.
	Unfortunately, I guess sales didn't warrant it's continued
publication.

-- 
                    John Henders              " Read the guideline, Luke"
           Just another elitist Usenet user        Obi Wan Spaf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: Falcon specs and price wanted
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:38:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.235236.1@fnalc.fnal.gov> traynor@fnalc.fnal.gov writes:
>Hello--
>
>Can someone send me some tech specs and works in progress regarding the Falcon?

George Robbins (from Commodore, how 'bout that. Nice guy, really.) just posted
the specs in comp.sys.atari.st.tech. List price for a 1MB machine with no
internal hard drive is supposed to be around $799.

>I'm kinda curious...also I heard that there will be a 68040 version--is that
>true?  Will there be some sort of connection that will alllow people to use
>their Falcons as videophones (I read that somewhere).  Finally, can someone 
>send me the retail and street price of typical Falcon setups?  I would appreciate
>it.

I've heard a fair amount about a 68040 version, but it's not going to be
available any time soon. I wouldn't expect to see it in the next 3 months,
anyway. 

Hm, videophone, interesting idea, but not something we can do over the current
phone network, is it? I've seen some AT&T blurbs about videophone technology,
using some new compression scheme and only sending something like 10 frames per
second, very low rez. Maybe that's over the existing phone network, but I
think it's targeted at a digital optical network... I guess it's a cool idea
but I don't think its time has come yet. (Besides, I'm more often thankful that
the other end *can't* see me than I'm wishful about seeing the other end. Must
be all those callers waking me out of a sound sleep... }-)
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

All true wisdom is conveyed in one-line witticisms.
From: mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mouse wander - acceptable?
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:55:15 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO) writes:
>My ATARI dealer sold me a mouse for my STe 1040 which frequently starts
>to wander around the screen by itself - without me touching the mouse.
>etc....

I have a similiar problem with my mouse and it's an official atari one,
what usually happens is that the cursor will be quite happily sitting
in the centre of the screen and then will suddenly decide that the top
of the screen is more interesting and move up there.  It's very
odd and I really can't see any reason for it.

Anyone out there know why this happens?  I can't see why strong signals
would cause a problem really.  Is is a fault with the keyboard chip?

Mark
From: sms@sys.uea.ac.uk (Steve Sowerby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TT and llamatron
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:34:26 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

gordonf@monashee.sfu.ca (Gordon Farrell) writes:

>In article <bnell.722014781@protege> bnell@siemens.com. (Bill Nell) writes:
>>  I was under the impression that llamatron worked on TT's (as long as you
>>had some sort of 24-bit MMU program).  I've downloaded the llamatron on a.a
>[...]
>>really work on the TT or not?  And if it does, then what is wrong with my
>>copy or (god forbid :-) my TT?

>Well, you can stop worrying about your TT.  It craps out on mine, too, even
>with the pmmu2 24-bit programme from a.a.  Sounds like false advertising
>to me! :-(


That's weird...  I'm sure my copy of 'Llamatron' works fine on my TT with
32-bit addressing on, with sound throught the monitor (you don't need to hook
up the sound jacks like another post mentioned).  I don't do anything... 
I double-click on it in TT Medium rez, with my normal setup... cache on,
no 24 bit addressing program, all ACC's and AUTO prog's up and running...

I'll check tonight whether I'm not hallucinating and it does work.

My version isn't any TT specific version either, it was either snaffled
from atari.archive or from ST Format (or perhaps ST User) magazine coverdisk.


I wonder does everybody who can't get Llamatron working have TOS 3.06  (I've
got 3.05)


-Steve Sowerby  (sms@sys.uea.ac.uk)
From: jgondek@pragmatix.cs.uoregon.edu (Jay Stephen Gondek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: --> ST/Spectre/Hard Drive etc. for sale <--
Date: 22 Nov 92 16:35:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov22.163552.23686
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.


Atari ST system for sale.

---- Hardware ----
Atari 1040 STf (1MB RAM, Internal Floppy)
Spectre GCR w/ 128K Mac ROMS installed
Supra 40MB hard drive (with clock/SCSI interface)
Atari SM124 Monochrome Monitor
Atari SC1224 Color Monitor
Atari SF314 External Floppy
Astra Monitor Switchbox
VideoKey from Practical Solutions

---- Software ----
Cyber Studio CAD-3D
Cyber Studio Cybermate
Cyber Studio Cyber Control
MegaMax Laser-C
GST Software's 1st Word+
Assempro 68000 assembler
LSL Land of Lounge Lizards
(All original disks and documentation)

---- Books ----
Original computer and software manuals
Abacus Atari ST Machine Language
Abacus GEM Programmer's Reference
Abacus Atari ST Internals

$600 Takes it all.
reply to jgondek@cs.uoregon.edu

 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:17057 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:14924
From: bellutta@stromboli.ai.mit.edu (Paolo Bellutta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: IMG (GEM) to PS (Poscript) converter
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:29:42 GMT
Organization: Istituto per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica
NNTP-Posting-Host: stromboli.ai.mit.edu


This is posted for a friend who does not have Usenet News posting 
capabilities at his site.  You can reply direclty to him at his 
e-mail address: orlando@irst.it

I'm looking for software and relative docs (as mail servers and/or FTP sites)
which can convert between IMG (GEM) format into PS (Postscript), both for 
Atari and PC systems.  The SW should be usable with Notator.  Please
forward replies via e-mail to:

orlando@irst.it or orlando@irst.uucp
From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Ideas for new MiNT/MultiTOS specific Desktop replacement, PLEASE.
Keywords: Features, Ideas, Suggestions, Wish-list etc.
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:29:50 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton


  I'm not sure if this was in your list, but:

   -priority settings via a "file settings" box (something similar
    to the Settings option on a DOS window in Windows (gives the
    options for:  foreground priority, background priority,
    exclusive/background running)

   -running ANY program (say ARC Shell) in a Window or full screen
    (again a la Windows 3.1)

   just my 2 cents...

				Robert Anisko
				anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC screen Saver
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:48:44 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:

> > They do still here (286), and you can get a 20mhz motherboard for about
> > $nzd100.00. A meg a ram (SIM) is $nzd64 so a cheap pc (grin), or
> > upgrade for the ever popular XT.
> 
> Oh well, posthumous smily.
> 
> Of course 286's are still available... I was just spoofing roger, who's
> always telling us about how "you don't see STs in shops anymore, and
> NEVER see advertised."  Just as you see 286's in shops, I also see STs
> in shops.  
> 
 Of course you were (grin).....
 
 Spotted at lake taupo last weekend ... Many STE's in a shop along
 with a 286, Amiga 3000 and LOTS of Atari software.. 
 
 Whites Music store is the name for those venturing into the bowles
 of the central north island.

  
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From: s883334@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (James Alan Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcon In Australia
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:17:28 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au


 Attening the Home Computer Show in Melbourne last weekend, it was surprising
to see Atari having one of the largest and most prominent stands. On display
were two falcons, and a 1040 St with midi setup (singer, lights, tone modules
and electric guitar). One falcon ran a continuous slide show, whilst the other
was used for DSP sound demonstration. 
 Atari had sessions where the performed a full song (Ive still got the blues
for you) with the singer, guitar, tone modules and lights. After getting a
crowd gathered, they then spoke briefly about the St and its midi capabilities
and then went on to demonstrate the sound digitising capabilities of the 
Falcon. This consisted of a member of the crowd singing into a microphone
the song then being played back with various effects such as delays etc. The
Atari guy then spoke through the microphone demonstrating real time sound
effects that can be achieved upon any input sound. It would have been 
nicer to see this done with music rather than voice.

 I was told the Falcon will be available here in Australia at the end
of January, for between (AUS$) $1000 and $1500 (I HOPE this upper end
price is not for the 1 meg, no HD machine). I also asked someone from
Dick Smith (the main retail outlet of atari in Australia) and was told
the price would be around $1000. At the show, Atari was selling 1040 STE's
for $499! $400 less than their normal price.

 - James.
-- 
  -  James Alan Hall                     s883334@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au 
  -  Mithrandir                          mith@arda.pub.uu.oz.au

Thence to Briton shall return,		If right prophetic rolls I learn,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: new .TOS and such...
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:44:38 GMT

In article AA05921@photon.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, He Saw. He Conquered. He Came. <dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> () writes:
>I'm looking on information pertaining to the following:
>
>TOS 2.06 or 3.XX cards for older St's (or Mega) computers.
>
>Availibility of a method of loading from hard disk the newer system instead of 
>hacking them into the machine.
>
>Use of TOS 1.4 and 2.06 or 3.XX in the same maching (switchable?)
>
>Any info on the above would be greatly appreciated! Please mail to me sonce I 
>rarely use this newsgroup anymore due to lack of time.



TOS 1.0 was available on disk, but none of the later versions (except for a 
few fairly buggy beta versions which were for developers only).
 
The TEC (TOS Extension Card) offered by CodeHead Technologies has the option
of an external switch to allow you to switch from your normally installed TOS
to the TOS 2.06 on the card.  It retails for $139 and includes the TOS 2.06
chips.  You might check with them at (213) 386-5735.

P.S.:  I tried to email this but it was kicked back.

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject: Re: does Warp9 work with MiNT .95 and Toswin?
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:50:49 GMT

>  Not to drift, but does Warp9 work with MiNT .95 and Toswin?  
>  I have an old version of Quickst and it will work except when I start up
>  Toswin.  I get a cursor in the menubar and all console i/o just spits out
>  all over the top of my toswin windows.  I really like the speed improvement
>  but if it doesn't work with MiNT, what's the use.

>  Thanks, Randy

Well It definitely works well on a TT with Mint 0.95B and TosWin 1.1

See my system configuration posted earlier.

Brian, WS1S
Bell Northern Research
Research Triangle Park, NC
bjgrier@bnr.ca
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Answer to trivia question (early Amiga)
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:24:39 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> Back when everyone had 8-bit computers and all the
> flame wars were between Atari 800/1200/130 folks
> and Commode Door 64 owners, a 16-bit 68000 machine
> was being developed called the Amiga 'Lorraine'
> (or was it Larraine?).  This was before the Apple
> Lisa, the MacPredecessor.  (More trivia.)
> 
> For the grand prize, a week in non-virtual reality,
> what were the code names for the Atari 400 and 800
> during their development?
Good question....I think I'd know but I was only about 8 years old at that
time....:-)   Shoot, I was only about 10 or 12 when I got my first 800 with
_*48K*_Ram installed!!!!!!!!  Wow, was I a bad mo-fo then!   Speaking of thing
that never happened like the Lisa, what ever happened to Atari's
super-fantastic sound called the Amy?

					-Matt
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: msa files to hard disk
	<1992Nov18.122155.7585@kth.se>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:59:30 -0800

In <1992Nov18.122155.7585@kth.se> ravanbod@nada.kth.se (Mehrdad
		Ravanbod) writes:

>How could anyone write such a stupid program that doesn't make any use of the
>ram memory available and just reads one single track/side, unpacks it, asks for
>diskswap, writes it, asks for diskswap etc.

>Please, tell me if i have missed something or else stop packing disks with this
>stupid packer. There are much better packers avalable.

	This should be in the FAQ, but the answer is put the msa file in a
ramdisk. Of course if you have a DS disk drive, and a 700k msa file,
your SOL, but then you could consider a ram upgrade.

 
-- 
                    John Henders              " Read the guideline, Luke"
           Just another elitist Usenet user        Obi Wan Spaf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry)
Subject: Re: The FALCON - too slow ??
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:56:45 GMT

In article <Bxnnpq.D3C@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> itschere@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Torsten Scherer) writes:
>just the ability to scroll the screen LEFT or RIGHT in steps of one pixel, which was
>completely impossible on the "normal" ST (unless you'd like to write a program and
>bit-shift it on your own). The UP / DOWN scrolling (ok, ok there's only upscrolling
>in GEMDOS output) can only be done by some kinda program (or the blitter perhaps), but
>in every case a tremendous amount of memory has got to be shiftet. Just a little math:
>(taken from a PC clone) When you're running 1024 * 768 pixels in 256 colours you've

Could you try to remember that most of us are using 80 column terminals, not
VGA?
And read my other posting - the STe does have hardware vertical scrolling.

- Leo.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mike Stramba <stramba@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: perl on the st?
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:26:52 GMT

Is there a port of perl for the ST available?

Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: Technical wordprocessors for ST
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:39:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.103345.9447@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Malachy Devlin - SPD) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>Can anyone recommend a good technical word processor for the ST. ie. one that
>would allow me to enter (large messy) equations (easily)? and also have the
>ability to generate table of contents, tables etc or am I asking to much?
>(I suppose I would be looking for something like word for windows 2 for the PC)
>( apoloyises for mentioning PC in this group :-) )

Well, if you've got at least 10 Mb of disk space available, there's a working
version of TeX called  CS-TeX4  on atari.archive.umich.edu, and some general
intros to TeX itself.  It works fine on my 1040 ST, using a DeskJet printer.
Be sure to use the shell, and the English (as opposed to German) version.

TeX is widely used, and is especially popular with physicists and mathmeticians.
The American Mathematical Society has contributed a set of fonts (ams); many
fonts, macros, etc. are available through the net, as well as ftp-anonymous
distributions of the source.  TeX is a typesetting language, so there is a bit
of a learning curve; it's probably best learned from someone else.

Well, I also understand there's a version of Word Perfect for the ST line, but
I can't vouch for it.  At a more primitive level, I think ST Writer may allow
half-line moves and the output of printer codes, so you can access symbol fonts
and other tricks, if you know your printer real well.  But it's hard to beat
the quality of TeX output.


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From: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: VIDI-ST
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:14:37 GMT
Reply-To: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Organization: Internal Revenue Service, Washington, DC

I just acquired VIDI-ST.  The hardware I have is version 1.2 and the
software is version 1.25.  Are these the latest versions?  If there is
a later version of the software, could it be available in an archive
someplace?  Is the maker of VIDI-ST, ROMBO Productions, still in
business?

Thanks for any help.


-- 
Marshall Lake
...!uunet!{media,mimsy!bogart}!irscscm!mlake
mlake@irscscm.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Wanted: Info on the Atari Falcon
From: yonerjp@brandonu.ca (Jerome P. Yoner)
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:52:37 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Greetings, Atarians!

I was wondering if someone could either post or mail (or both) me a copy
of all known information about the new Atari Falcon?  I am interested in
specificiations (memory, drives, video), compatibility (will it primarily
be an Atari ST machine, can it run MS-DOS software, etc.), and PRICE!!!

Thanks for your help!

Deanna
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: msa files to hard disk
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:43:36 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Distribution: world
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Use 'Ultra-Pack'.  It uses less RAM, gets MUCH better compression (better
than Lh1).  Is just as simple to use.  

It will handle compressed files up to 800k if you compress/decompress them
from an 800k RAM-Disk on a 1meg machine.  The program itself uses only
about 20k for buffers etc.
 
It's also about the same speed!

(The resulting files are also a lot smaller)

Ultra-Pack 1.1R is on atari.archive.umich.edu in the atari/Archivers/
directory!

(It was advertised before - but, as with all useful bits of information, 
no-one took any notice)


I'm writing my own FAQ, with USEFUL information in it.  (e.g. this sort
of thing, as well as MS-DOS/ST compatibility with disks etc. etc.)
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TT and llamatron
Date: 17 Nov 1992 22:49:06 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

The PD/Shareware Llamatron, will not work on the TT.  However, if you send
Jeff Minter his 5 (5-Pounds UK) he will if you want, give you a TT version, 
with better samples and a generally better version (plus all the other 
goodies).  Read the DOC's for more information!!

(At least - if it DOES work on the TT, it'd be in ST-Low, with Cache turned
off)