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Subject: Re: 1FC Ko"ln v. Celtic (Glasgow variety)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:44:59 +0000







In message <FISCHER.92Oct3040603@steiner.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk
(Lars Peter Fischer)

>>>>> "James" == J.M.Ross  (Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk)
>>>>> "Christian" == Christian Schetter

>Christian> The result of last nights UEFA cup match between Celtic
>Christian> Glasgow and 1.FC Cologne was on the net. [...]  First of
>Christian> all the 3-0 is very flattering for Cologne and easily
>Christian> Glasgow could have scored one or two times more. Our
>Christian> defnese was a mess and

>James> One last time - there is Celtic FC often called Glasgow Celtic
>James> to avoid confusion with other equally famous Celtics (Boston
>James> Celtics maybe?).

>One last time - there are some of us here who have enough trouble
>writing understandable English without having to deal with people like
>you demanding we get every last detail right. Informing the world of
>the right names of Glasgow teams is fine -- we've seen some useful
>information here -- but *demanding* that people know and use the right
>names is pure arrogance. Don't you get it? Do you realize the
>advantage you have here? If you are not able to relax a bit, why not
>just stop reading r.s.s?

Who's demanding anything? I'm relaxed, how about you? Various people have
informed the world of the correct names for Glasgow teams, subsequent
posts have been about why people use names other than correct ones. 

>James> Glasgow has 5 senior football teams, none of which are called Glasgow.

There's only four now, I forgot that Clyde have moved to Hamilton :-)

>Look, the guy said "Celtic Glasgow" first and then "Celtic" later on.

Actually, he said "Celtic Glasgow" followed by "Glasgow". That's what I was
really on about. 

>Even you should be able to understand that. Yeah, it might not be the
>name of the team, but we all understand what was meant.

OK, so in that article it was obvious what he meant by "Glasgow", but the use
of "Glasgow" is totally wrong. A related question: in Germany do you refer
to 1FC Ko"ln as Ko"ln, in which case does this not offend Fortuna K"oln fans?

>Why not contribute something of substance? Here we have a man talking
>football, and all you have to say is flaming him for using the wrong
>words? Is it simply that you are not interested in football at all but
>are simply here to ensure that we all use proper names for Scottish
>football teams?

You may have noticed previous posts of "substance" from me. Apologies for
daring to flame someone with out first acknowledging the usefuleness of
their article. There was no intent to flame. I assume that you read my
previous posts fully, in which case you would have noticed that
I am concerned with the accuracy of club names from all countries.

Enough of flogging dead horses, let's get back to real issues ...

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