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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: HELP! Vocals: Compression/Reverb settings for ALESIS
Keywords: HELP, Compression, Reverb, Alesis
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:14:16 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <skipa.716090768@milton> skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson) writes:
>I'm seeking advice on how to process male vocals with an
>Alesis 3630 Compressor and a Quadraverb.  I'm thinking of
>compressing LAST before the 4-track but I'm open to
>suggestions.  What settings would you use?

Having done a couple of projects with the Alesis 3630 I will offer a few
tips (actually, this goes for practically any compressor):

Personally I would put the compressor BEFORE the effects, especially if the
effects have a bit of noise (as the Quadraverb does).  If the vocals
going into the effects are compressed then the effects should be similarly
compressed keeping the noise floor in check.  On the other hand, putting
the 3630 after the effects allows you to take full advantage of the noise
gate since it is the last thing in the chain.

Make sure the 3630 is recieving a properly boosted level from your
mic (the 3630 does not have adequate mic pre-amp capabilities).

As for the settings on the 3630, that really depends on the style of music
and your own personal preferences.  I prefer to compress my whole dynamic
range (as opposed to merely limiting the loudest vocals).  Sing into the 
mic at what you consider to be your soft singing voice.  Set the threshold 
so that compression just starts to kick in at that level.  Next set your 
compression ratio to suit the style of vocals you want.  A 2:1 ratio can 
have a noticeable effect.  However, it is not unusual to go to 5:1 or 
higher especially for backing vocals.  Try some subtle and extreme settings.

Set your hard knee/soft knee button to suit your taste.  Hard knee is
more rigid and could be preferred if you have lots of annoying
transients in your singing.

Finally, make sure your noise gate threshold is not set too high.  It is
quite annoying to hear the noise gate open in the middle of the singer
taking a breath.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: cheap acid bass drum
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:51:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Sep4.191756.21507@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) writes:
>
>In article <2AA7AB0C.5934@news.service.uci.edu>, dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes...
>>	No, no, we're talking about "acid" as in "acid house", not "acid" as in
>>LSD.
>
>Earth to Dan. "What, exactly, do you think that the word Acid in Acid House,
>applies to?"

	Duh.  Sorry.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cmedley@wam.umd.edu ('Flip')
Subject: E-mu Proteus Keyboard
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:25:02 GMT


I just demo'd an E-mu Proteus keyboard... i believe it's called the Proteus
Music Production System (?) and was quoted a price of $1099 without the
orchestral expander, which I can get later for $150 more.

What I'm wondering is... this thing sounds great...  are there any obvious
cavaets to purchasing one for that price?  Is this a good deal?  Is there
any other keyboard in the < $1200 range that can beat it for features?

Also, can someone email me the specs on this beast?


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Via: uk.ac.leeds.scs; Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:16:49 +0100
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:14:08 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: MIDI merger/splitter/mapper design
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU
Comments: cc: blynch@WPI.WPI.EDU

>
>From: Bryce Lynch <blynch@EDU.WPI.WPI>
>Subject:      MIDI merger/splitter/mapper design
>
>	I am a student at Worcester Polytechnic Institute starting my
>senior project.  The project is to build a MIDI splitter/merger box
>with some mapping capabilities.  I am wondering what features
>musicians would like to see in a device such as this.
>

GREAT! I love challenges like this.....

Some ideas (for what they're worth)

(1) Velocity sensitive routing.

Pretty simple, notes with a velocity value over alpha are sent to one
out, notes with a velocity value under alpha are sent to the other out. Not
as simple to implement as it sounds because you gotsa remember which out to
route the note-off to.

(2) Note range splitting.

For splitting non-splittable keyboards. Been done a lot. Pretty simple.

(3) Velocity/other value to MIDI channel. Would allow up to 16-way velocity
splits, and/or allow you to choose tone colour via some controller (e.g.
general purpose wheels).

(4) Note copy with velocity inversion.

Send all notes to both outs, but send the normal velocity amount to one, and
127 - amount to the other. I.e. crossfades between different voices, possibly
in different modules.

(5) Midi overflow simulation.

Split notes between outs depending on polyphony of modules. E.g. count how
many notes are "on" in one module (on one out) and if this exceeds known
polyphony then send extra notes to other out. Not as good as a real overflow
mode I admit as it can't detect notes that fade away

(6) All notes off if active sensing is lost. Use is rather obvious, no?

(7) Random routing. Send notes to outs randomly/alternating/whatever. Useful
for confusing your friends.

>
>
>	What features would you like to see in such a device?  Should
>the remapping be based solely on channel numbers, or should messages
>be directed to the output ports based on velocity, note or other
					  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oops! I should have read more of your message before replying. Take every
correspondence as a "yes".

Interesting point is, how will you design the user-interface if there are
too many options. Frontal Lobe does it from the keyboard.................

>	Also, what kind of price range would a box like this go for in
>the real world?  We could probably build these things at a reasonable
>cost .. what do mergers and splitters cost now, or could someone
>direct me to a decent electronic musicians catalog or supply house?
>Also any names of good books on MIDI would be appreciated ..
>

See advertisements for Anateck products, they are your competitors. (If you
decide to go commercial).

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Simon NUNIS)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:34:25 GMT
Subject: Re: U220 vs SC-55...Help me Quick!!!!
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

hi!

i have a u20 (keyboarded version of the u220) and i find it a good steal.

but if you really want good high quality sampled sounds (esp orchestral),
then you should be looking at the proteus modules (but they don't have
effects).  other than the orchestral type sounds, the u20 is a real good
bargain with 7 part multitimbral and 32 note polyphony.  also, you can
"expand" by getting rom cards...real good ones available now...

so go listen to the proteus as well right?

simon.
From: ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: What PC MIDI interface do you use?
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:06:50 GMT
Organization: The Communications Research Centre

In article <1992Sep6.000121.11525@cis.ohio-state.edu> fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
>
>Survey results:
>

>
>Listed below are entries for each type of interface reported, along
>with selected comments.  (I take no responsibility for the accuracy
>of this information)
>
>
>Thanks to everyone who contributed to this survey, including the
>following people not credited with comments above:


Since this "survey" has no sampling validity whatever, what possible
purpose did you think, Mark, could be served?>
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jws7793@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Falcon 030 $799!
Reply-To: jws7793@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:46:40 GMT

The specs on these upcoming computers are impressive. One question though-
is the SCSI interface a standard one? Or will there have to be a special 
non-standard cable or interface or whatever. I'd get the base model and 
add an external hard drive. No way would I pay $600 extra for the 65MB 
model. 
		James
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bartjan@cs.kun.nl (Bart-Jan Bouwers)
Subject: Make your choice
Summary: What synth do you like most?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:32:59 GMT


Choose from:

1. Korg Wavestation (EX)
2. Roland JV-80
3. Yamaha SY serie (55,77)

And tell me the advantages of the machine you chose (and even use!) and
(if you can) the disadvantages of the other ones.
I don't wanna hear anything about modules. Only the keyboard versions, please.
Thank you for your opinions...

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From: harry@harlqn.co.uk (Harry Fearnhamm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Broken Prophet 6.
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:10:55 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England

I have a Prophet 6 with the following problem: usually, after a couple
of minutes, the LED's go out, and it gives off a sad, decaying whine,
which does not seem to respond to any of the knobs or switches.  After
this, it usually does not come back for a few hours, and it seems to
be getting worse.

Before I go inside, does anyone have any suggestions as to what might
be the problem?  Does the Prophet 6 suffer from any loose socket
problems or something like that?

Thanks in advance.

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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: OMS1.2b10 circumvents PowerBook 140/170 serial problems
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:17:53 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.

Subject line says it all. I tried Performer, MTP, SMPTE, MAX, SysEx and
other stuff using OMS1.2b10 on my PB140. Works fine, though I haven't
checked the timing accuracy in detail.

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:23:09 EDT
From:         Jeff Mallory <jeff@MILLIE.LOC.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Midi Interface for Sun/SGI?
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

the midi-archive@blink.att.com and netjam site at xcf.berkeley.edu might have
some info on such interfaces. There is a Sun serial to MIDI adapter allegedly
in commercial production (German, maybe?).

Jeff
jeff@millie.loc.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Kawai K4 16bit Synth for sale
From: akappen@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:34:51 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

For Sale:
Kawai K4 16 bit Digital Synth
Big Brother of the K1II with more power and better sound.
Excellent entry-level professional model synth.
-Polyphonic/Multitimbral (16/8)
-Full Size Velocity Sensitive Keys with Aftertouch
-Includes Sustain Pedal
-Great Digital Drum Palette
-Excellent Patches
-Like New, Pristine Condition

List......    $1445.00
Asking....     $700.00

Buyer pays UPS COD shipping.

All offers accepted, possibly negotiable.

Andrew Kappen
akappen@oread.cc.ukans.edu
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Studio-4 versus Midi Timepiece II
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:37:27 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: gilstrap@sbctri.sbc.com's message of 8 Sep 92 21:54:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.215457.3114@sbctri.sbc.com> gilstrap@sbctri.sbc.com (Brian R. Gilstrap) writes:

   Since my setup at this point isn't large enough to stress test any of this,
   I'm wondering if anyone out there can give me their perspective on the pros
   and cons of the Studio-4 versus the MTP II.

The Studio-4 is vapourware at present, I believe. I think the MTP-II exists.

Pro the Studio-4: Solid software support from the Mac (OMS configuration).
Con the Studio-4: Event filtering and processing done on the Mac, which might
		  be a performance hit.

Pro the MTP-II:   Onboard processing.
		  Ability to attach two computers at once to a single MIDI
		  network (this is a big plus for me)
Con the MTP-II:   Unless you like programming by periscope, you have to use
		  MOTU's configuration DA which is incompatible MIDI-wise
		  with everything else in the entire world, and isn't that
		  stable.

   Also, why should I avoid the
   Apple Midi Manager?

There's a performance hit. I've been using it (and programming with it) for
a couple of years and it's fine for me (in live performance, video SMPTE
lockup, etc.), and it has several advantages which I won't go into again.
Downside is that Apple don't care about it. I use a combined OMS/MIDI Manager
environment on all three of my Macintoshes ([FX: boos and hisses from
audience]) and it works well. It's just the bl**dy MTP DA that causes me
continual grief. Sigh. Anyone want an MTP patch editor? Think I'll do one
in MAX.

Nick.
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               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
From: arf@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Five)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Please to repost mail
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:23:53 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

The Hard Drive at my connection to Usenet crashed a couple of days ago, 
loosing all of the net messages and Email.  could anyone/everyone that 
sent mail to me (Five/ARF) please repost to this user ID?
 
Has anyone received their tapes yet?
 
Verity:  I received your order for a tape.  Will be sending it out this 
week, with Dan Harkless' and Shiv Naimpally's tapes.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: About CkWlk
From: mmangieri@vitro.com (M. J. Mangieri)
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:37:56 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

In article <sgs.1grs@terapin.com> sgs@terapin.com (Stan Sawyer) writes:
>In article <tbra380.716196204@cdc835>, tbra380@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it (The
>Musician) writes:
>>Does anyone can tell me something about cakewalk for Windows 3.x???
>>I own MasterTrack Pro 4.5 and use it almost daily... but I used Cakewalk
>>for DOS before and I would like to know the features of Cakewalk for Win,
>>and also the places where I could find it..
>>
>>Thank in advance: please email to tbra380 at cdc835.cdc.polimi.it
>>
>>        (cdc835.cdc.polimi.it is 131.175.6.2)
>>
>
>I use CakeWalk for Windows *3.1* (their Windows version won't run under
>3.0).  It is great.  There are some sync problems if that will cause you
>trouble, but I've heard that MasterTrack Pro has had some difficulties
>in this area as well.
>
>CakeWalk for Win has all the features of CakeWalk Pro 4.0 plus the advantage
>of MS-Windows.  It uses a shared driver for your 401 or whatever so you
>can simultaneously run editing software or even another sequencer and
>Windows deals with conflicts.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
... if the other program is a Windows program ... what if you try to use a DOS
program in a window? I haven't been able to get that to work. Any suggestions?



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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: tbra380@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it (The Musician)
Subject: About CkWlk
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:23:24 GMT
Organization: C.d.C., Politecnico di Milano
Keywords: Cakewalk??
Summary: Cakewalk??

Does anyone can tell me something about cakewalk for Windows 3.x???
I own MasterTrack Pro 4.5 and use it almost daily... but I used Cakewalk
for DOS before and I would like to know the features of Cakewalk for Win,
and also the places where I could find it..

Thank in advance: please email to tbra380 at cdc835.cdc.polimi.it

        (cdc835.cdc.polimi.it is 131.175.6.2)
From: metlay@PHYAST.PITT.EDU (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Minor assistance deferentially requested
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:17:25 GMT


carlton@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton Hogan) snivels:

>I have been following the heated discussion on news-group ettiquette, 
>"biting people's head off", amateurs wasting the time of lofty
>olympians of electronic music, thr supercilious and unhelpful attitude
>of said olympians etc. etc.....what an incredible waste of bandwidth. 

Gosh, thanks. It's nice to know I'm appreciated by pond scum like you.

>All in all, it has dissuaded me, a regular news reader, from posting 
>anything yet (probably for the best...there are too many postings already

Well, anything that keeps people like you quiet is probably for the best.

>However- I have a couple of specific transactions to attempt, so...

Of course. You vent your wet-brained contempt for the volume of
information flying about here, but the minute you want a free answer
to one of YOUR questions without having to work for it yourself, you
start yipping at your betters to get their attention.

*sigh* Fine. What do you Neeed to know?

>Wanted!!! ---Manual for Sequential circuits "6-track", or at least info on
>the midi implementation, and the various ways of booting it up to get 
>different configs. Also___ any info on Midi retrofits or modifications 
>for said machine (no snickering!!! I know it's a dinosaur, but for a dirt 
>cheap mono analog bass line, it can't be beat)

Call Wine Country and ask them to send you a manual; it'll cost you
some bucks but it'll give you what you need to know. There are no
different bootup configurations for the machine because its OS is
burned in on ROM; there are also no known modifications for it,
although WC may have patches for sale. Retroes are unnecessary, as it
comes with MIDI.  There may also be an upgrade to the ROMs themselves;
consult WC for the latest rev, as well as for information on how to
tell the rev of your unit.

Yes, it's a dinosaur, but so what? It is also one of the few
multitimbral analog machines out there. But it only sounds really
killer in Stack mode, so it's mono for all practical purposes. But
then, so is the Xpander, so what the heck.

>Thank you oh omnipotent and gracious old-timers of the net for letting this 
>humble, despicable first time poster sully the pristine clarity of your
>crystalline and illuminated discourse...

You're welcome, pond scum. You may kiss my ring before you leave.

PS. I suppose I should put a smiley in here somewhere....

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atomic city                  \ "Neeed." As in, "I know I have a huge rig of
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:56:43 GMT

In article <263@artech.UUCP> clint@artech.UUCP (Clinton Keith) writes:
>In article <pbjndxn.bskendig@netcom.com>, bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
>> 
>> Oh, sure!  Better hardware doesn't always equal sales.  If it's not
>> compatible with anything else out there, then nobody will buy it;
>> the world of PC's is a harsh one.
>> 
>> _/_/_/       Brian Kendig  Macintosh Jedi           Live never to be ashamed
>
>Actually, the Falcon is compatible with the ST line.  Although the ST line
>doesn't have a great source of general productivity titles, you will have
>access to alot of MIDI stuff (not to mention games and a very good hobbiest
>following)  All-n-all the machine has some merits.  I'll warrant that Atari
>sells quite a few.  Especially to the music folks.
	
	Yea, but your forgetting about one point... 386SX emulation... How
many MS-DOS machines/programs out there? Too many... And if the 386SX can be
emulated, what about a MAC, Amiga, NeXT, Atari 8-bits, ect? With the right
engineers, We "could" be looking at a nice machine 8-)...


>artech!clint@hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com         
	Or even a HP48SX, HP95, ect 8-)...

Again, just the rambings of an Electrical Engineering student...
John
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From: jameson@cal.isac.ca (Kevin Jameson)
Subject: Can anyone see this?
Reply-To: jameson@cal.isac.ca (Kevin Jameson)
Organization: I.S.A. Corp. (Calgary)
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:57:56 GMT


This is yet another test.  If anyone can see this mail, please reply
to jameson@cal.isac.ca.  Thanks.