HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dean@MorningStar.Com (Dean Schell)
Subject: Re: dingy bottoms
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:11:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.175823.9797@phri.nyu.edu> roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
>EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans) writes:
>>1.  Drip detergent into the water just in front of the bow.  Based on
>>my (recent) experiments in the bathtub, this might leave a film of detergent
>>on the surface of the water long enough for the boat to sail over it and
>>get some benifit.
>
>	IYRU rule 63(a) says, "A yacht shall not eject or release from a
>container any sustance (such as polymer), the purpose of which is, or could
>be, to reduce the fircitional resistance of her surface by altering the
>character of the flow of water inside the boundary layer.
>
>	Rule 63(b) also prohibits "specially textured hull surfaces".  I'm
>not 100% sure what they're getting at, but I suspect that what David Spencer
>suggested, i.e. making the middle third of his bottom rough to induce
>non-laminar flow, would be illegal.

It could also refer to a special hull surface - I think in the '83 or
'87 America's Cup races one of the U.S. 12 meters used a 3M product that
stuck to the hull and provided lengthwise grooves to channel the water.

-dean
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: steph@cs.uchicago.edu (Stephen Wilson Bailey)
Subject: Re: Help in choosing a VHF radio
Organization: University of Chicago Computer Science
	<12OCT199210202179@erich.triumf.ca>
	<1992Oct12.201654.27322@phri.nyu.edu>
	<1992Oct13.130911.17733@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:07:24 GMT

I'll second the ``recommendation'' for the Apelco (5150).  We replaced
a Regency Polaris which died at the beginning of the year with the
Apelco, and it serves admirably.

So well, in fact, that we ended up relaying position reports for
half the Mac fleet this year :^)

Apropos of listening to your VHF in the cockpit, here's a trick we use
(inspired by David Levine's commissioning report at the beginning of
the season...).  Get one of those CD to cassette tape adaptors,
designed for listening to your CD player into your car cassette
player, from Radio Shack.  Then plug it into your boat's stereo, and
your VHF's speaker outlet.  Beats the heck out of blowing the
midsection crew away while the afterguard still can't hear the radio.
You can even hear it over the engine.

Steph
From: root@logiconultra.com
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Test
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:58:21 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Logicon_Ultrasystems
Originator: root@stealth.logiconultra.com

This is a test only...sorry
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: kell@mprgate.mpr.ca (Dave Kell)
Subject: Re: topside leaks
Reply-To: kell@mprgate.mpr.ca (Dave Kell)
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 21:18:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.195310.281@cs.brown.edu>, jfh@cs.brown.edu (John F. Hughes) writes:
|> 
|> Your stanchions should be well enough bedded that they can withstand
|> complete immersion for a very long time. Imagine a long passage in
|> moderate-to-strong winds, where the rail is under for, say, 3 days. If
|> your stanchions can't take this without leaking, your galley's gonna
|> be wet...
|> 

We've just finished our autumn Wednesday night racing series (a whole 3
races over 5 weeks).  We didn't sail the second one because it was raining
and the boat we race on was leaking like a sieve.  It had returned from
Hawaii shortly before (after participating in the Victoria - Maui race), and 
the toe-rails (and all other fittings) were leaking badly.  Lots of 
electrical problems caused by salt water on the wiring (and a connector 
lying against the hull).

Last week we went out, with the boat partially repaired.  No life lines.
No toe rail.  Weird!  We have all sailed on small keelboats without
lifelines and didn't think twice about it.  It's a bit different when
it's nearly twenty feet from the mast to the forestay, with nothing to
hang onto.  Of course, the race was in winds 5 knots and under, with flat
water, so it was pretty relaxed.



Now, on a related topic... I have a persistent leak around the stack of
my diesel furnace.  I always figured I was somehow sealing it improperly,
but the guy across from us in the marina has the same problem on his
Crealock 34 (everyone drools at this boat when they walk by).  He figures
the heat from the stack breaks the bond in the sealant, and it doesn't 
seal up afterwards.

Are there good bedding sealants which are not affected by heat?

|> 
|> I figured it's of general enough interest that I'd post instead. 
|> 
|> -John
|> 
|> 

I'll say! It seems to be a constant battle, finding a new leak or two each 
year.  My boats never seem to leak from below the water line, though :)

dK
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From: scfisher@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steven Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Repowering Sailboats
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:36:47 GMT
Organization: Disorganization

I am thinking about replacing the Atomic 4 (aka Atomic Bomb)
in my boat with a diesel with about 27 hp. I've looked at
Westerbeake, Yanmar, and Volvo-Penta, but I don't know which
is more reliable, or about parts costs and availability.

If you have some knowledge or experience with these or other
manufacturers, could you please comment on them?

-steve
From: truher@netcom.com (Joel Burke Truher)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: 5 sailing questions
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:15:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <BOWERS.92Oct14114008@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers) writes:
>
>Yes, wings assist on every point of sail, except dead downwind.  The
>shape assists in the reduction of drag, and the shape also assists in
>getting the lead down lower (making the boat less tender).  

So is the wing just an endplate?  Does it produce any lift of its
own or does it just block the flow around the bottom of the keel?

Joel
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: marshab@apex.com (Marsha Bates)
Subject: OMC Sail Drive vs. Outboard
Organization: Apex Computer Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:49:52 GMT


I caught the tail end of some discussion regarding sail drives
and inboards vs. outboards.  I had a couple of questions.

I am at a point where I need to decide if I am going to invest
money into rebuilding my OMC 25HP sail drive, or if I will invest
into an outboard.  Here are my questions:

*How would changing motors effect the value of my boat (26' Dawson Parker)?

*Any recommendations on making a saildrive more reliable, and where to
go for parts?


Also...Does anyone have any ideas on how to confirm what motor is in my 
26' Dawson.  It's a '76.  The documentation that came with the boat
says its at 25HP OMC, but the fuel pump I just had to replace is 
supposidly for a 35HP and I was told that OMC never installed 25hp
motors in the US.

Any help would be appreciated.

From: bsmith@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Smith)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:31:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Sailing into a slip
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.boats

In rec.boats, bobp@cherise.UUCP (Robert Parkinson) writes:

    Right. There's a British boating magazine I read occasionally that ran
    a good article, with pictures, diagrams, etc., on getting out of the
    marina under sail. Lots of great technique used, like scandalising
    the main, which, by the way, is also a good thing to know if your
    main halyard gets fouled with the main up like mine did. Anyway,

Haven't heard the term "scandalising" (except in a political
connotation) for a long time.  We used to scandalise the main by
lowering the peak haliard on the gaff boom.  How do you scandalise a
mainsail today?  By raising the boom?

Brian (time to modernise the lugger....)
From: donr@hpcvcdo.cv.hp.com (Don Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Plotting keel templates
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:45:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvca.1992Oct15.184503.12777
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

: I got it by anonymous ftp from ftp.uu.net in 
: usenix/comp.sources/misc/volume31/plotfoil.  

I found it in usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume31/plotfoil.
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: fallavol@fred.nas.nasa.gov (Michael A. Fallavollita)
Subject: Repair of Standard Comm. Depth Sounder and Spead/Log
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:12:00 GMT
Distribution: usa

Well we finally bought our first boat, but since it was out of the water
when we bought it, I had no way of knowing that the Depth Sounder and
Speed/Log didn't work.  Now I have the chore of trying to get these fixed
since I can't really afford to spend $500 on instruments.  (Buying a boat
on the income of 2 students doesn't leave much leeway.)

The instruments are from Standard Communications Corp., the DS-1 and SL-1
models.  I know that the current models are DS-10 and SL-10 but does anyone
know what they have changed?

I'm really interested in any experience that fellow netters have had with
sending similar instruments to  SCC for repair.  I called them yesterday
if you ship them the instruments, they will give you a repair estimate for
free.  I also called their marine technician who said they charge $50 / hour
+ parts.  I just don't want to spend more on repairs than I would spend on
new stuff.

Does anyone know of any instrument repair shops in the SF Bay area?

Thanks,

Mike Fallavollita [fallavol@corvus.arc.nasa.gov]
From: mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: 2nd BATMAN!! - was Re: SHOCKWVAE heads south!
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:16:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


William...
	I'm sorry, I should have been more specific.  I meant
SFGAd doesn't do this.  For the GASM they still made you walk 
into an open stall even though the line was 15 mins long.  OH boy!
I'll wait the extra 5 mins to get in the back

Mike "I hate riding in the middle" Cornell
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: mhoesing@cwis.unomaha.edu (Michael Hoesing)
Subject: Re: Schwarzkopf's coasters in Germany
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:09:47 GMT

buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com () writes:
>>Maybe others here can help with locations of Schwarzkopf coasters in
>>Germany.  My understanding is that they're located at many of the fairs.
>>His coasters tend to be compact, with loops and lots of twisting inside
>>a small area.  I've seen photos of the Olympia Looping (with 5 loops
>>colored and arranged like the circles of the Olympic logo) and the
>>Thriller, but don't recall the cities whose fairs were supposed to have
>>them.  Buck mentioned in e-mail that the Thriller is for sale.

>Most of the major Schwarzkopf coasters are owned by Herr Barth.
>He usually rents them  out to the major fairs in Germany, but
>they're getting quite "old" to the Germany public now, and Herr
>Barth has many of them for sale (His Doppel Looping, Olympia
>Looping, Hymalaya Bahn, and Thriller are (were?) all for sale),
>looking to replace them with new attractions.

>On a different note, Thorsten, you don't happen to personally
>know German ACEer Ralph Altenhofen, do you?  He's a friend of mine.
>Say "Guten Tag" for me if you run into him.

>Tchuess,
>Herr Buckmeister

There is a park in Soltau called Heide-Park.  They have one called
Big-Loop (It also says 'Looping-bahn').  It is rather small, but
does have 2 vertical loops and 2 corkscrews.  Is this a
Schwarzkopf coaster?  It wasn't very impressive (It was fun, just
not great :-)  ) and didn't seem to be well maintained.  This also
goes back to the topic of less restrictive coasters in foreign countries.
There were only 2 people in the station.  One helped with loading the
train (Well, he just sat on the railing unless someone did something
wrong) and the other sat at the controls.  There was also only one
button needed to start it (Most seem to have 2 now, but I'm sure there
are quite a few exceptions).  These 2 people also didn't pay any
attention to the train as it went around.  All of the people could
fall out and they wouldn't know :-).  Also, the shoulder restraints
locked as the car went out of the station.  Not all at once, but
individually as each car left the station.  No chance for a safety
check there.
 
 J.J. Hoesing
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: wjf@controls.ccd.harris.com (Bill Figie)
Subject: Coaster Con XV video
Originator: wjf@rs2
Organization: Harris Controls
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:15:50 GMT


I got my Virginia Coasting: ACE's Coaster Con XV video about a
week ago and watched it again for about the 3rd time.  It is
pretty good.  I highly recommend it to all.  It is exactly an hour
and covers all the highlights of the convention, including a great
POV ride on all the coasters.  Do any of you out there have it
yet?  The reason I am asking is that the POV footage on the Scooby
Doo is not too good.  It seems like either the video they gave
Aurora Productions is bad or the transfer by Aurora Productions is
bad.  Because of the death of the person in charge of Aurora
Productions and because I had heard they were loosing money on the
tapes and were only doing it as a favor for ACE in memory of Fred
Schmidt (sp?), I wonder if they will be doing one for next year. 
I really hope so.  So if any of you out there went to the
convention or didn't go to the convention but wished you could
have (I think that about covers *all* ACEers) you really should
think about buying this tape.  Maybe if we can turn a profit for
them, they will continue doing more.  It really is a good tape. 
Something to show the family what you do at these conventions and
a real keeper.


	Bill "video coasting" Figie
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Upcoming Events!
Keywords: Event, Conference, Convention
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:39:23 GMT

Below is a list of upcoming AP/RC Enthusiast
events for you to mark on your calendars:

    
DATE	HOST    EVENT              LOCATION


    
Oct 10  ACE     Phall Phun Phest   Knoebel's Amusement Resort;
                                           Elysburg, PA

    
Oct 24  MACC    Wild One Mania!    Wild World; Largo, MD

    
Oct 31  MACC    Oktoberfest        Busch Gardens - Williamsburg;
               (unofficial event)  Williamsburg, VA

Nov 17
thru
Nov 21  IAAPA   Annual Convention  Convention Ctr; Dallas, TX


Nov 21
thru
Nov 22  ACE     Texas Giant III    Six Flags over Texas; Arlington, TX
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Universal Studios -- Halloween
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:49:22 GMT


FYI -- If anyone plans to be in Cali from Oct. 25
thru Oct 31, MAKE SURE you go to Universal Studios
and check out their MEGA Halloween spectacular.  I
read about it in Amusement Business, and it sounds 
like a GREAT presentation.  They really went all out
for this.


B.
From: mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: 2nd BATMAN!! - was Re: SHOCKWAVE heads south!
Date: 14 Oct 1992 18:48:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


WOW another ride where the front is better than the back!  I said
a while back that Drachen Fyre was the only ride i found this to
be true on, of course I haven't rode the Batman yet.  From the
description i got, I would see this to be true.  Lots of wind 
blasting your entire body, I'll have ta ride it in Jersey, but
I won't wait for more than 2 hours for it.  Nothing is worth that
much.  It blows your whole day.  

Mike "BATMAN should be Jersey Devil" Cornell
From: betsey@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Kennywood Kangaroo description & more old rides questions
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:55:50 GMT
Reply-To: betsey@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth Fike)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct15.150655.25306@sei.cmu.edu> mapike@sei.cmu.edu (Mary Ann Pike) writes:
>Some other old rides I haven't seen for a while and would like to know if
>any still exist:
>
>West View used to have a Trabant - I haven't seen one of these anywhere
>in years.

Last time I was there, there were still Trabants at Geauga Lake
and Cedar Point.

How about Musik Expresses? :-)
>
>Someone mentioned a park with Teacups...I think Kennywood used to have one
>of these, but took it out to put in their Raging Rapids ride. These must
>be rather scarce, too.

Um, other than the Disney parks? (Mad Hatter's Teacups,
Alice-In-Wonderland theme).

betsey





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Betsey Fike <betsey@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
CC '94/SEAS '94, Computer Science/Electrical Engineering
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: ben@cc.gatech.edu (Ben Cowan)
Subject: Six Flags over Texas Op. Schedule
Reply-To: ben@cc.gatech.edu (Ben Cowan)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:54:02 GMT

  I'm going to Texas in a couple of weeks.  I have a SFoGeorgia season pass
and I know it's good at all SF's this year.  I was wondering what SFoT's
operating schedule is for what's left of the '92 season (dates and closing
times).  Also, I need directions to the park from the DFW airport.

Thanx much,
Ben...

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  be immature.  2: A state of being that every female claims the male sex
  lacks.
From: mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: A simulated coaster ride
Date: 8 Oct 1992 18:28:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


Bill...Back To The Future is BY FAR the best simulator I have 
ridden.  And that includes that Hanna Barbara ride and the Star
Tours and Body Wars rides.  The themeing on BTTF is not quite
as strong as Disney rides, but it is VERY close.  The skits 
that are played for you on the many TV's located throughout the
queue are very funny.  The ride itself looks like a REAL
Dolorian (sp?).  The thing is projected upon a HUGE screen, and
the simulators move very quickly.  VERY HIGH on the Hurling
ratio.  Of course, simulators make me queasy anyway.  I much 
rather ride a coaster..but if there's a simulator to ride..this
would be the one I would ride.  On your second time through,
sit by the door so you can stick your head out, and you'll
see why they can run the simulator on such a large screen.

Mike Cornell

Just remember...don't drink and ride
From: mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: SHOCKWVAE heads south!
Date: 9 Oct 1992 21:24:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


GREAT! I'M GLAD TO HEAR IT!
I hated that ride...seemed like a waste of metal after riding the
Shockwave at KD.  The only question NOW is, what are they gonna
put in its place.  They surely aren't going to put the minigolf
course that used to be there back in.  Will it be a new coaster,
or are they bringing back the UltraTwister that they had problems
with?  Hopefully they can put in SOMETHING to improve that park,
it's only got 1.5 good rides, the GASM and Lightning Loops counts
as half a ride, it's not a REAL coaster, but I like it anyway.

Mike "I just had to put a qutoe in here" Cornell
From: maglione@media.mit.edu (Tom Maglione)
Subject: Re: Unique Amusement Rides (old ones)
Summary: Notes on Derby Racers.
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:29:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.141031.29961@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> cheri@decoy.uucp (24481-stead) writes:
>This series of posts got me thinking about rides last night, so here are my
>random musings:
> (some stuff deleted)
>Re:  Unique rides
>	There's a carousel type ride at Rye Playland.  It's different in that
>	it goes *really* fast (and the horses are in racing poses instead of
>	trotting poses).  The attendant was leaning in at about a 60 degree
>	angle as the ride spun.  We studied him for a while, trying to find 
>	what was supporting him, but we finally realized that it was just 
>	physics!
>
>Well, that's all I came up with.  Any others??
>
>-- Cheri
>cheri@decoy.cc.bellcore.com

For Cheri and others out there,
	The carousel type ride that you describe at Rye Playland is the
famous Derby Racer. This ride is one of only three known left in the world:
there is one at Rye, one at Cedar Point, and one at Blcakpool, England.
The one at Cedar Point was wimped out long ago, because they do not
operate it at near the speeds that it can reach. Rye used to operate theirs
at full speed until a couple of years ago, when they installed a stop
on their throttle so it can only go so fast now. But I rode it before that,
and believe me, the thing really cruised such that you held on for dear
life! But what fun it was! I only hope that they operate the one in
England at high speeds, still, too, so that I can experience it if I ever
get over there. BTW, when Rye's Derby Racer is fully operational, the horses
bob up and down (like galloping) and even move back and forth in a short
(about 6 feet long) trough, to simulate the racing of the horses in a line.

Tom "let the Derby Racer run at full speed" Maglione
From: rhb@ucs.usl.edu (Bird Rendell H.)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Coaster Names
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:59:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: usl.1992Oct14.215948.21990
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette

(Bill Figie) writes:
>I like weather  phenomema names too Tom.  Not new but here are a couple
>I like.
>
>  Florida Hurricane
>  Earthquake
>  Tidal Wave

Of the first three in your list, only *one* is a 'weather phenomena'!  ;-)

But I can certainly see your point.


Rendell

p.s. Still waiting for the Oregon Great American Scream Machine (OR-GASM)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: wjf@controls.ccd.harris.com (Bill Figie)
Subject: Re: A simulated coaster ride
Originator: wjf@rs2
Organization: Harris Controls
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:37:51 GMT


In article <1b312tINN86r@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, mac18@po.CWRU.Edu
 (Michael A. Cornell) writes:
|> 
|> Geoff...
|> 	One question...is there ROOM in Disney World for Mt Fiji?
|> Ever since they put in Mickey's Starland (why,oh why?) there isn't
|> much room left to put ANYTHING...let alone an entire MOUNTAIN.
|> They only thing they cold do is build across the RR tracks, and
|> for some reason, i don't see that happening.

Michael,
  If they did put in a Mt. Fuji it would go in EPCOT in the Japan
area.  There was also talk of a Matterhorn if Switzerland put in a
pavilion.  
   Several years ago I took a tour of the back side of Disney and
the underground.  You wouldn't believe that most of the major
attractions are really outside the park (the area we think of as the
park is where the train circles.  Things such as Pirates of the
Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain (of course) and It's a
Small World (I think) actually take place in a sound stage.  I also
agree that Mickey's Starland is a waste for us adults that want to
play in the Magic Kingdom.

Bill " I wish Disney would open a Country Fair USA section" Figie