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Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.pmdf
Subject: RE: Defragment channel
From: Bob Tinkelman <bob@camb.com>
Date: 15 Sep 1992 18:10:31 -0400 (EDT)
Organization: Cambridge Computer Associates, Inc.
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> The defragmentation mechanism in PMDF is very simple. All you need to do is:
> (1) Mark the channels you want to have defragmented with the defragment
> keyword (this usually means marking the l and d channels this way) and (2)
> Have a defragment channel in your configuration. That's it -- nothing else is
> needed. You don't need rewrite rules for the defragment channel since it is
> automatically used whenever it is needed.

Before reading Dan's reply I added a rewrite rule for the defragment channel
(despite the fact I didn't believe that would make a difference) and then I
ran another test.  It just arrived, successful.  I'm sure that my change
didn't fix anything.  So, I suspect my previous failure was ``pilot error''.
All I can think of was that I didn't install the recompiled config, cluster
wide.  In any case, it's working now.  I did a mail /foreign of a 3000+
disk-block save set (from the PMDF distribution) over a PhoneNet channel
marked with MaxBlocks 500 (in 1K PMDF blocks) and it fragmented the msg into
4 pieces, as expected, and then defragmented it at the receiving end.
Everything worked.  Thanks.  This facility is great!

> There is little documentation on this because none is needed. CONFIGURE.COM
> does everything for you -- it generates the channel and puts the defragment
> keyword in most of the appropriate places.

Ned, I disagreed with you the last time you posted a statement like this, but
held back and waited for someone else to object.  This time, as it's ``my
thread'', I guess it's my turn.  I understand that very little documentation
is needed.  But *some* is.  It's not enough to say ``When you upgrade, run
configure.com, look at the output, try to understand it, and use it as a
model to update your old config.''  We need some way to start with the new
features list (which did mention the facility) and, via the Index in the
Guide, find some documentation describing the features and syntax.  If
you'd said ``Hey, we didn't have time to document it before the release,''
I would have accepted that without question.  I'd prefer to get the
functionality sooner rather than wait until the doc is ready.  Maybe I read
more into your 3 lines quoted above than you meant.  [At times some of us
do seem to read some emotion in your words that you don't mean.]  If so, I
apologize for jumping on this.  It just struck a raw nerve.  However, don'
let this complaint (objection?) detract from my last statement above.  The
defragmentation facility is very valuable to us and I'm very happy it's here.
--
Bob Tinkelman <bob@camb.com>
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Subject: RE: Limiting access to outgoing mail.
From: "Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr" <terry@spcvxa.spc.edu>
Date: 11 Sep 1992 03:39:28 -0400 (EDT)
Organization: St. Peter's College, US
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> I shall summarize below the new support so that anyone spotting any missing
> functionality, blunders, or whatnot can bring them to our attention now,
> well in time for the next release.  And of course, further ideas are always
> welcome.
>
>    from_channel|from_address|to_channel|to_address     $Y/$N

  I'd like to be able to specify keywords to override the channel parameters
or the PMDF defaults as well. That way, I can set holdexquota as a channel
keyword and noexquota for a particular "problem" user. Likewise, I can set
sendpost/nosendpost for delivery errors to this address.

  What do you think?

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
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Subject: I need a simple E-Mail to FAX solution
From: spain@mdcbbs.com (Harrison Spain)
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:09:49 GMT
Organization: Electronic Data Systems, Unigraphics Division, Cypress CA
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We have PMDF and rely on it heavily to route all our mail from unix to VMS,
distribution lists, mail to the Internet via DECUS UUCP etc.  We are looking
for a FAX via E-Mail solution so we would love to consider the PMDF FAX
software.

Here is my problem.  We only run PMDF on a single node MAILER and only route
those mail messages through MAILER that *have* to.  Since installing PMDF on
every node is prohibitive, I'm not sure that the PMDF FAX solution is the right
way to go.

We would prefer to keep things *very* simple and each solution we see out there
is either way too complicated or requires that the software be installed on
each and every system.

Today we "borrow" a FAX solution (built into MR I think) that you can use by
sending your mail message to a single address (we define an address called
FAX), include the phone number(s) in the top of the mail message (the subject
can be anything), and off it goes.  What could be easier?

Help me figure out a way to make PMDF FAX as easy to use :-).

 |    Harrison Spain             |    Voice: (714) 952-6114                   |
 |    VMS Platform Manager       |      Fax: (714) 952-5758                   |
 |    EDS Unigraphics            |     UUCP: {uunet,uupsi}!mdcbbs!spain       |
 |    10824 Hope St.             |      PSI: PSI%31060099980018::SPAIN        |
 |    Cypress, CA  90630         | Internet: spain@mdcbbs.com                 |
From: kraftjoel@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.pmdf
Subject: RE: Limiting access to outgoing mail.
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:06:44 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <01GOKRXC7ASI9TCNH3@INNOSOFT.COM>, dan@innosoft.com (Daniel C. Newman) writes:
>>         I'd like to be able to limit access to non-local (off-node) email.
>> I'm thinking that I can define a rights id, say 'NO_OUTMAIL' for example,
>> and set the appropriate image with an ACL such that anyone holding that id
>> cannot send internet mail messages.  My questions are simple:  Will this
>> work?  and, which image(s) should be set this way?
> 
> This won't work since the users only run VMS MAIL or DECWindows MAIL.  They
> don't run the actual images which send outbound mail.  Instead, you probably
> want to associated this rightlist identifier with, say, your TCP/IP channel.
> You do this by merely specifying the rightlist id as a channel keyword; e.g.,
> 
>         mtcp_local single smtp mx no_outmail
> 
> Then, only processes with the no_outmail rightslist id can queue mail to
> the mtcp_local channel.  Be sure to grant this rightslist id to whatever
> accounts PMDF may run under!

We have the exact same situation here on our campus, and I think that the
solution is just a bit impractical.  On our campus, there are over 1000
accounts that *should* be able to use mail, but only about 50 that should
not.  Our system would be a rightslist nightmare if we tried this.

What we do isn't extremely graceful, but it certainly works.  Try putting an
ACL on the PMDF_MAILSHR image.  You can put this in your startup file or do it
anytime that PMDF is not installed:

	$ SET ACL/ACL=(ID=DISINMAIL,ACCESS=NONE) PMDF_MAILSHR

Then we grant the DISINMAIL identifier to the users that should not be able to
send mail.  They can still receive it, but they wouldn't be able to subscribe
to any lists so the volume here is minimal.  Whenever these users try to use
the IN% transport, they get the following message:

MAIL> send
To:     in%postmaster
%MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport IN
%LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image $1$DUA0:[PMDF.][EXE]IN_MAILSHR_V5.EXE;
-RMS-F-NOPRIV, no privilege for attempted operation


If these class accounts don't need NETMBX privilege for anything, you could
also try using the 'netmbx' option on the channel (if I am remembering this
correctly) and then anyone without that priv will not be able to queue mail to
the channel.

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From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
Subject: Writing eve procedures (Was: RE: BindSKIPding EVE_FIND_NEXT...
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:51:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Sep7.023512.28308@seq.uncwil.edu>, rpowell@seq.uncwil.edu (Richard Powell) writes:

    [quote deleted - irrelevant]
 
> Where do you find out how to write eve or lse procedures?

    Start with the "VAX Text Processing Utility Manual".  This has 
introductory chapters on the VAX TPU language, plus documentation on
TPU built-in functions, etc.

    Next, take a look at some existing TPU procedures.  I would suggest,
with some trepidation, that you look at SYS$EXAMPLES:EVE*.TPU.  These
comprise the _source_ of the EVE editor.  The caveat is that these files
are quite complicated, IMHO, since at least VMS V5.3+ and the inclusion 
of support for DECwindows.  You may do better looking at something a bit 
simpler.  Some example TPU procedures are available from FILESERV@SHSU 
(or via anonymous ftp from Niord.SHSU.EDU) in the TPU directory, as well 
as others...
		Cheers, Ken
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
From: cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Chris Luchini)
Subject: simple TPU procedure
Reply-To: cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu
Organization: High Energy Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:11:51 GMT

Hi all,
  I want to set up something so that when I reply to a mail
message in VMS mail with the \extract qualifier, the extracted
text is quoted in net style ie a > is inserted at the beginning
of the line.
 I think I can define a key to CALL VAXTPU- the  TPU procedure that will
do what I want, but I'm clueless on how to write the procedure.
I've just spent an hour looking thourgh the help menu of TPU, but
even the little 'test' procedure would not work. 
 Is there a kind soul out there who could write this procedure for
me? I imagine that if you already knew TPU it'd take 2 min....
-thanks in advance.
BTW if someone knows of another way to achieve the result without
using TPU, i'd love to hear about it.

--Chris
*1110 W. Green/Urbana IL 61801/217-333-0505/cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu 
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* in box (never fired at all).  $650 or best offer over $600 as of Sep 30.
From: cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Chris Luchini)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
Subject: Thanks (Was TPU procedure)
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:06:08 GMT
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Organization: High Energy Physics, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

Thanks! I got many responses to my request for a quote-er for use
in mail. Thanks a bunch!
-c
*1110 W. Green/Urbana IL 61801/217-333-0505/cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu 
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From: YOUNG@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (Rob Young)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
Subject: Re: simple TPU procedure
Date: 10 Sep 1992 04:59:15 GMT
Organization: Widener University Department of Computer Science, Chester PA
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Chris,

In <BuBxJs.G9q@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu writes:

> Hi all,
>   I want to set up something so that when I reply to a mail
> message in VMS mail with the \extract qualifier, the extracted
> text is quoted in net style ie a > is inserted at the beginning

....

There is a dozen different ways of doing this.  Here is what I do:


$ show log mail$edit
   "MAIL$EDIT" = "ROB:[YOUNG.MAIL]MAIL_EDIT.COM" (LNM$JOB_806784D0)

$ show log eve$signature
   "EVE$SIGNATURE" = "SYS$LOGIN:.SIGNATURE" (LNM$JOB_806784D0)

$ ! mail_edit.com
$ this_dir = "''f$element(0,"]",f$environment("PROCEDURE"))']" 
$ DEFINE /USER SYS$INPUT 'F$TRNLNM("SYS$OUTPUT")'
$ IF P1 .EQS. "" THEN GOTO NOINPUT
$ EDIT/TPU/COMMAND='this_dir'quote.tpu /OUTPUT='P2' 'P1'
$ EXIT
$NOINPUT:
$ EDIT/TPU/COMMAND='this_dir'quote.tpu 'P2' 
$ EXIT

procedure eve_my_quote

	local
	prompt_string,comm_param,comment_string;

	comm_param := "";
	if (beginning_of(current_buffer) <> end_of(current_buffer))
        then
	prompt_string := "String to comment with: [" + eve$kt_comment_string + "] ";
	if not (eve$prompt_string(comm_param,comment_string,prompt_string,
	    "Using Default")) then
	  comment_string := eve$kt_comment_string;
	endif;
	eve$comment_buffer(current_buffer,comment_string);
	position(end_of(current_buffer));
	endif;  ! Else it was an empty buffer
	split_line;
	eve_include_file("eve$signature");
	position(beginning_of(current_buffer));

endprocedure;

eve_my_quote;  ! Quote file, include sig


I received this from someone out there, can't recall who.  

				Rob


                                                     young@tattoo.cs.widener.edu
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  they may live."  --Socrates		 
Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
From: rpowell@seq.uncwil.edu (Richard Powell)
Subject: Re: Binding EVE_FIND_NEXT to a double key stroke.
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:35:12 GMT

w_costa@unhh.unh.edu writes:

>TPU folks...

>    Easy question (I hope).  I've figured out that to make CTRL-F call the
>    EVE_FIND routine, I can use the following TPU code in a COMMAND file:

>    	define_key('eve_find("")', key_name(CTRL_F_KEY));

>    But how would I bind CTRL-F CTRL-F (i.e. pressing CTRL-F twice) to the
>    eve_find_next routine?  (I've tried using the EVE$ source in
>    SYS$EXAMPLES: for inspiration, but there's too much I still don't
>    understand about TPU.)

>    Thanks in advance for the help.

>    						Bill Costa
>    						W_COSTA@UNH.EDU

Where do you find out how to write eve or lse procedures?
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
Subject: Re: Writing eve procedures (Was: RE: BindSKIPding EVE_FIND_N
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:42:45 GMT
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In <194thhINNs3a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> at913@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

> Now, if only TPU would allow utilities that
> were spawned out to take control of the screen from time to time (like to put
> up a graph on a graphics screen -- I am operating from a VT300-like terminal)
> LSE would make an excellent interface to lots of other software.  (I have 
> specifically in mind IDL - an interactive, plotting, data analysis language.)

That's what I've done: making LSE as a frontend for Maple for vt100
terminals. With multiple windows, backscrolling, help-windows etc, but
I cannot do (regis-)plotting, eg on a vt330. sigh.


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From: at913@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mirko Vukovic)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
Subject: Re: Writing eve procedures (Was: RE: BindSKIPding EVE_FIND_NEXT...
Date: 15 Sep 1992 14:55:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu () says:

>In article <1992Sep7.023512.28308@seq.uncwil.edu>, rpowell@seq.uncwil.edu (Richard Powell) writes:
>
>    [quote deleted - irrelevant]
> 
>> Where do you find out how to write eve or lse procedures?
>
>    Start with the "VAX Text Processing Utility Manual".  This has 
>introductory chapters on the VAX TPU language, plus documentation on
>TPU built-in functions, etc.
>
>    Next, take a look at some existing TPU procedures.  I would suggest,
>with some trepidation, that you look at SYS$EXAMPLES:EVE*.TPU.  These
>comprise the _source_ of the EVE editor.  The caveat is that these files
>are quite complicated, IMHO, since at least VMS V5.3+ and the inclusion 
>of support for DECwindows.  You may do better looking at something a bit 

etc...

It seems to me from reading the postings in this group that there are 
definite conventions on writing procedures for EVE,LSE, on binding keys, on
error checking etc.   Where can one get hold of those ``conventions/rules''?

BTW, I got to say it:  LSE is definitely one great editor with all of its 
language extension capabilities.  

Now, if only TPU would allow utilities that
were spawned out to take control of the screen from time to time (like to put
up a graph on a graphics screen -- I am operating from a VT300-like terminal)
LSE would make an excellent interface to lots of other software.  (I have 
specifically in mind IDL - an interactive, plotting, data analysis language.)


  
-- 
Mirko Vukovic 
University of Wisconsin -- Madison
VUKOVIC@UWMFE.NEEP.WISC.EDU
From: sharone@shar.zko.dec.com (Sharon Eikenberry)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.tpu
Subject: Re: Writing eve procedures (Was: RE: BindSKIPding EVE_FIND_NEXT...
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:36:23 GMT
Reply-To: sharone@shar.zko.dec.com (Sharon Eikenberry)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


FYI - As of LSE V4.0, a significant portion of LSE's source code that's 
written in the TPU language is included on the kit.

--Sharon Eikenberry
  LSE Developer
  Digital Equipment Corporation
Newsgroups: gnu.chess
From: mann@src.dec.com (Tim Mann)
Subject: Re: GNU Chess 4.0: Windows version? (FAQ)
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 06:31:35 GMT


Unfortunately, the graphical port of gnuchess "3.21" to Windows was
not done in a way that allowed the same sources to continue to compile
for Unix.  So 4.0 is based on 3.1, and there is no Windows version of
4.0.  It would be nice if this could be fixed somehow.  The Windows
version 3.21 is a nice piece of work.

I think it is possible to compile 4.0 for the PC and run it in
strictly text mode (similar to "gnuchess" or "gnuchessn" in the Unix
gnuchess 4.0 distribution), but I haven't tried this.  There is
certainly code there that purports to work on the PC.

	--Tim
From: cao@buphyk.bu.edu (Chan T. Cao)
Newsgroups: gnu.chess
Subject: GNU CHESS source ready to send to postscript printer from UNIX
Summary: Anyone have the source?
Keywords: gnu chess, source, unix, postscript printer.
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:50:42 GMT
Followup-To: none
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

Hi Everyone,

I got gnu chess running on my pc and was able to unzip the program
on our SUN.  The problem is the docs are in MS WINDOWS write format,
I believe.  I wonder if some soul could be kind enough to send me 
the complete code for the pc version.  I'm aware that some X windows
version of chess is around but i'm not programming in X.
From: 9015724t@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Roberto Blaskovic )
Newsgroups: gnu.chess
Subject: help with gnuchess-4.0
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:30:55 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

I hope that this works
I have just installed gunchess-4.0 actually someone installed it for me
I just have a few questions to how to use the following commands and
how to best make use if them - Post
                               Random
                               Material
                               Easy
                               Hash
                               Book
                               Force
I also would like to know after I have entered the command both how can
I get to see the moves again.
Last two questions why does the computer refuse to move after I type in
white
And what the meaning of playing with no hashfile.

Any help would be appreciated, either by News or Mail

                                 Thanks in advance
                                              Robert!
---
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Newsgroups: gnu.chess
From: md85-epi@byse.nada.kth.se (Urban Koistinen)
Subject: Re: Source?
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 12:53:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.133342.14405@siesoft.co.uk> tomc@siesoft.co.uk writes:
>Could someone tell me where to get the source for GNU chess v4?

Source can be gotten by ftp from prep.ai.mit.edu in pub/gnu/
For users in Europe, nic.funet.fi keep pub/gnu too.

If you don't have ftp access, check the comp.archives newsgroup.

If you don't know how to use ftp you might want to check it too.

>
>Thanks,

You are welcome!

I think someone should create a FAQ for this group.
If you know how to set up automatic weekly/monthly posting, please
tell me how so I can!

>
>Tom.
-- 
Urban Koistinen - md85-epi@nada.kth.se
Newsgroups: gnu.chess
Newsgroups: gnu.chess
Subject: GNU Chess 4.0: Windows version? (FAQ)
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:08:59 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
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I am enjoying playing the MS Windows version of GNU Chess 3.21 -- the
computer always gives me a good stiff fight.

My question is: has anyone compiled version 4.0 of the source for
Windows?  I'd appreciate a pointer to the binaries....
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
From: rhoads@living.rutgers.edu (Glenn Rhoads)
Newsgroups: gnu.chess
Subject: HELP! -- Compile Problem.
Keywords: gnuchess
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:40:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Cc: rhoads


When I try to run gnuchess-4.0  I get the following error message:

FIONREAD: Operation not supported on socket
  You probably have a non-ANSI <ioctl.h>;

I tried the suggestion in the WARNING file of using the
"-traditional-cpp" flag when compiling, but this didn't help.
Apparently, I have an older non-ANSI C Compiler.  I would appreciate
it if someone could explain to me how to solve this problem, and
explain it in a way that a non-computer person could understand (I
didn't understand the second suggestion in the WARNING file).  Please
email responses to rhoads@paul.rutger.edu.  Thanks in advance!

-- Glenn Rhoads
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