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From: oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Glenn Danzig a wrestler??? (was Re: Recent Rumors
Keywords: WCW Def American Rick Rubin
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:39:36 GMT
Organization: Cosmic Monsters Inc.

>Well, Glen Danzig used to be a pro wrestler years back. Thing is, he's as
>short as Bill Dundee, but you can see how big he is. He also knows how to
>blow himself up and look even bigger for pictures.
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Now this I find hard to believe! I'm not saying it's not true, just
incredibly unbelievable. Could you give me your source of information
and when and where he wrestled? 

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From: rjones@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rex A. Jones (I'm single and gay...want a date?))
Subject: Re: WCW Exits
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 18:45:09 GMT

dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes:


>Keep
>In article <1d6cjvINNp9f@male.EBay.Sun.COM> scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM writes:

>>Is this likely, given Ric's inner ear problem? If he is suffering from
>>Vertigo and this is a continuing problem rather than an infection, then
>>perhaphs Ric's time has come from him to claim a new title - Senator
>>Ric Flair from the great state of South Carolina! Having a dizzy Senator
>>would be nothing new given the current state of affairs! :-)
>>
>Accourding to the Torch, the doctors told him that his problem was temporary 
>and he expects to be back in the ring shortly.

>                                           David Kempster

Flair is now scheduled to wrestle Bret Hart in Indy in 3 weeks.  Last week
the match was Hart v. Razzzzzor HRamoan....

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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: Animal
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:18:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.202617.22339@nmsu.edu> cheshire@acca.nmsu.edu (We are DEV
O!) writes:
>
> Question.  After LOD split up, Animal started teaming with Crush (for a few
>matches.  He seems to have disappeared.  Any news what he is doing now?  And
>is there any news on what Hawk has been up to?

About a month ago the Torch reported that Hawk was to team up with Kensuke 
Sasaki. In this weeks issue there is a picture of them on the front cover. They
are going to be a tag team for New Japan. They wrestled as a team Nov. ( at 
Roper's in Fridley Minn.
                                           David Kempster
                                           Fx
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From: cg@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.gavinelli)
Subject: Ramblings
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:39:19 GMT


Fred the Elephant Boy of Howard Stern fame called me
on Tuesday night. He told me that he was going to be
on Stern's show on 11/11. The reason for the appearance is to plug
two wrestling cards where he is supposed to be the ring announcer.
One show will be in Md. There will be a show in Pa for ECW
on 11/16. For those Stern fans who missed the show, he was on
from aprox 8AM-8:40AM yesterday. I'm calling him
at work tomorrow. If anyone wants specifics for the locations of these
shows, drop me an e-mail and I'll commit the ultimate sacrifice-
asking Fred a question and writing down the answer.

Jake Roberts is apparantly history. This follows a fallout with
Watts Sr. It seems unlikely that another organization wiill touch
him here in the US because he needs (as Meltzer might say) to
deal with the personal demons that haunt him (drugs).
 
I'll be in Denver from 11/17-11/22. Any shows in the Denver area
(Indie or otherwise)?


================================================================================

"Skinner is undefeted for all intents and purposes"

				Monsoon, about a year and a half ago....



					Charlie
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling Superstars
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:51:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling

In article <1992Nov9.231443.11003@ists.ists.ca>, dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
(Deepak CHHABRA) wrote:

> Gorilla Monsoon said it was Afa on the other syndie and -- get this -- 
> **he said that Afa was a former WWF tag team champ**.  I do remember Afa
> and Sika, managed by Lou Albano, being the champs.  As I recall, they wrestled
> Tony Atlas and Rocky Johnson quite a few times, but I almost choked when past 
> history was mentioned on a syndie.

So?  It's not as if he had been the Red Rooster.

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From: James.Gorak <James.Gorak@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Vince Questions
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 07:20:42 GMT

In <199211051845.AA09297@tuna.wang.com> DAVE.KOWALCZYK@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("David Kowalczyk") writes:

>Does anyone know if Vince is married.  If so does he have any little
>McMahons running around?

I've read, sometime back, that he has a son. Don't know if he's married now.
If he is, I wonder how his wife took the story abour Vince & Rita Marie in 
in the back seat of the limo?
-- 
James.Gorak@mixcom.com
From: andra@cs.widener.edu (Robert Andracsek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [NES] WWF Steel Cage Challenge
Date: 10 Nov 1992 21:56:26 -0500
Organization: Widener University Department of Computer Science, Chester PA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: maggie.cs.widener.edu

A while back I asked for reviews of this and the game boy game that
came out not too long ago.  Well ladies and gents, I decided to go
ahead and rent it.  So here's what I thought:

Basically, you have 10 wrestlers to choose from:  Hulk Hogan, Jake
Roberts, the Undertaker, Sid Justice, Roddy Piper, Bret Hart, Ted
DiBiase, Irwin R. Shyster, Da Mountie, and Randy Savage.  And unless
you especially like hearing digitized short versions of their music,
avoid this one.  (Although the music in most cases wasn't bad)

You can choose from 3 types of matches, one-on-one, Cage match, or
tag-team.  (Hey, you can actually throw the opponent into the cage!)
You can also run a singles or tag tournament.  Very few moves, and
unless you count the flying elbow everyone can do, no original 
finishers (not even the Leg-Drop of Doom!tm)

Coulda been a decent game, but they needed more moves, and more
original moves.  (I wish someone would port Wrestlefest, now that
would be enough to make me go out and purchase almost any system!)

As was said before, unless you have a special affection for digitized
music, don't even bother with this one.


-- 
|R. Andracsek  |  e-mail: andra@cs.widener.edu  |  Voice: kinda deep...  
|  Coach:"Do you think losing is funny?!?"
|  Player:"Not at first, but once you get the hang of it..."
|                 ---The Mighty Ducks
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Entrance Music
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:39:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

  >> Riki Choshu's [entrance music] (good tune, IMHO).

HK>  I like it too.  In watching all these tapes from New Japan and All Japan

That makes three of us.  A lot of times I root for him to win just so
they will play the song again.

  >  Now, when I watch more current tapes of New Japan and hear Choshu's
  >  music pre-match, it's not quite the same, since I'm not exclusively
  >  exposed to his ****+ matches (or he might be having less).

He is having less, but he is getting older and he set such a high
standard.  The same is true of Fujinami.
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . Friends don't let friends type drunk!
                             
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From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak CHHABRA)
Subject: Re: Wrestling Superstars
Keywords: Update
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak CHHABRA)
Organization: Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:37:07 GMT

In article <BxKxLr.AD2@ulowell.ulowell.edu> hsano@cs.ulowell.edu (Hitoshi Sano) writes:
>
>I can remember some time ago when Col. Mustafa was new that Vince quietly 
>blurted out," ...former World Wrestling Federation Champion.  Now calling
>himself 'Col. Mustafa'."  It was so casual that it was very easy to miss.
>I believe that it was on the Sunday noon show, whatever it was called back
>then.  Anybody else remember this?

I thought this was during the Hogan tribute before the Sid match at WM.  
Vince also showed clips of Bundy, Orndorff, etc., but Mustafa had been 
around awhile.

dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca

"It hurt so bad I almost stopped enjoying it."
--Cactus Jack on Ron Simmons' powerslam
From: beninsd@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: uswa/dave scherer
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:28:26 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

Sorry to use th network--but dave scherer make contact again again re uswa
I can't contact you. Thanx
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From: asspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan)
Subject: Re: [WCW] Jesse Ventura Strongest Arm Tournament
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: Fnordbox Escape Committee
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:57:00 GMT

In article <9210311837.AA09963@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>, Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com> writes...
> 
>I can't beleive they are going to have an arm wrestling tourney
>and NOT have Rick Rude in it.  

They had a promo spot for the tournament on one of the weekend shows. 
They featured Rude, who claimed to be a 3-time national champion.  He
said something about why he wasn't going to be in this, but I really
don't remember.  At least they showed enough logick this time to offer
an explanation.  This was exactly what I was thinking when they were
talking about it.

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From: beninsd@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: USWA/LAWLER
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:13:26 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

Jerry Lawler is the new USWA champion he beat Todd Champion
for the belt--he will face him again next Monday with a speical referee from
the WWF!! Lawler's line: "Todd is so stupid that before coming to
the studio he went to the zoo to see the easter seals."
From: mb20@prism.gatech.EDU (BRANCH,MICHAEL B)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WCW News & Views (Tony Atlas)
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:34:39 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <BxGGyM.1J3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
>
>  They actually said that we will see "a" semi-final match from the
>  King of Cable tournament.  I guess they don't plan to finish out 
>  the tourney at the Clash.  Speaking of the tourney, does anybody
>  else expect a Rick Rude vs. Van Vader final match?  

     So... what's the deal with Tony Atlas? It seems strange to bring
   him in so briefly and then have him squashed by Van Vader. I heard
   the original, derogatory, racial (ie. classic Watts) interview by
   Atlas, regarding Simmons and then saw the replay where they beeped
   out alot of it. I would assume that the censoring was a work, but
   then the conspiratorial side of me wonders if maybe they went to far
   and are now going to try and quietly move Tony back out. Does anyone
   know, from the sheets or whatever, as to what WCW plans are for him
   exactly? I still say that he should get a monster push. I think he
   can be a very good worker, has tons of charisma (positive or negative)
   and can interview exceptionally well. But Watts, of course, gets him
   in and starts a whole idiotic racial angle with Simmons and Walker. 
   What a waste...



-- 
BRANCH, MICHAEL 
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: kzim@watserv.ucr.edu (Christopher Robin Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Un-Survivor Series
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:53:41 GMT

In article <23828@galaxy.ucr.edu> kzim@watserv.ucr.edu (Christopher Robin  
Zimmerman) writes:
>
>6. British Bulldog v. Da Mountie           (14)
>

I'm sorry, I forgot, this match would probably change too, since Smith is  
losing his title to Michaels before SS.  Throw that into the mix too.

>Christopher Zimmerman
>  / kzim@watserv.ucr.edu / kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu / zimmerma@ucrengr.ucr.edu /

Sorry, you'll only see my .sig once in a message (and that's enough).
From: dsrekjk@prism.gatech.EDU ( Jon Kincaid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Recent Rumors
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:09:56 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

A friend of mine talked to Steven DeTruth (ex GWF commentator and local
Atlantan type) the other day and he mentioned a couple of interesting
things:
1) Watts appears to be on shaky ground. Rumor has it that Jim Herd (oh no)
might be brought in to handle the financial aspects of the company while Jerry
Jarrett would be brought in to handle wrestling talent. If there's any truth
to this (along with Ross's mentioning negotiations with Smoky Mountain), it
shows that somebody has an idea as to where some of the better North America   
westling is today and  WCW is trying to establish decent contacts with them.
Working with either organization (Smoky Mountain or USWA) would definitely
be beneficial to WCW to get some immediate talent to help their rapidly
depleting roster. Then again, there could be nothing to this and we may just
be watching Watts fiddle while WCW Rome burns. If there's anything to any
of this, let's hope it happens quickly before Eric  Watts starts defeating
Van Vader and Cactus Jack in handicap matches . :-)
2) While Jim Cornette is in fact running SMW, it appears that the money
behind the organization is coming from Rick Rubin, whizkid founder of Def
Jam/Def American Records. This jibes with info a friend got from heavy
metal hero Danzig, who told him a few years ago that Rubin had tried to buy
into WCW and had been offered a percentage of the AWA from Vern Gagne.
I can't vouch for any of the info above, but Steven probably knows enough
of the local WCW types that there could be validity. We'll see.
jon

-- 
"Don't move him, he's hemmorhaging"- Gordon Solie, 1981, on Ted Dibiase
being piledriven multiple times by Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy.
dsrekjk@prism.gatech.edu is jon kincaid
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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: CWUSA: 11/06/92 Update
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:51:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.224824.1544@data-io.com> jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:
#
#Upcoming dates:
#
#Nov 10 Brookings OR
#Nov 13 Coos Bay OR
#Nov 20 Oakville, WA
#Dec 4 Tacoma, WA Clover Park High School 8PM 
#

I'm planning on going to the Tacoma show. Any other r.s.p-w'ers 
in the Seattle area that want to share the gas/drive time to Tacoma?

-- 
Cal...                        "I meant no harm. I just liked
                               explosives and I was careful never 
 jewell@Data-IO.COM            to kill more than I could eat."
 ...!uunet!pilchuck!jewell       -- Hunter S. Thompson
From: jjermani@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (John W. Jermanis)
Subject: Re: tape
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Reply-To: jjermani@ics.uci.edu (John W. Jermanis)
Organization: U.C. Irvine - Information and Computer Science
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:57:08 GMT

In article <BxGqAM.CFF@ra.nrl.navy.mil> luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:
>
>Me too! Great stuff. I also noticed that while the Japan matches are
>called and captioned in Japanese, the referee uses English when
>counting a wrestler out of the ring. You can distinctly hear "one...
>two... three...". What's the reason for this?
>
	Nobody has responded to this yet so, I thought I give it a shot...
	Well, wrestling basically _is_ an American sport.  Therefore, you'd
figure there would be considerably American influence.  In various martial
arts practiced here in America, counting is done in the language of origin
(ie Korean for tae kwan do).  It'd make sense that counting and other basic
terms are English.  Just my 2 cents.

John Jermanis
From: carlton@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Carlton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Steiner Status
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:42:36 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation

rjackson@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Darkman) writes:

>Our newspaper ,which is a very reliabe source (they haven't been wrong yet!),
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>said that the Steiner Brothers will most likely stay within WCW and not show up
>in the WWF.  Newspapers can be wrong but this one has never been yet when
>writing wrestling news so I do not think that they will show up in the WWF.

What newspaper is this?  I'm inclined to believe that this is not true.
The fires brewing between the Stieners and Watts have been getting hotter
week by week.  I believe Watts may have thought the Stieners would ultimately
stay which was not the case.  When Cowpie figured this out, he gave
Scotty the TV belt as a last gap desparate measure which backfired.

I'm really disappointed with Watts.  He was supposed to know how to run
a wrestling promotion but has turned out to be as big of a fool as
Jim Herd or Vern Gagne.

WCW lost me when they pushed Johnny B. Badd and PN News, and Watts lost me
when he lost the Stieners, etc. and replaced them with the likes of Eric Watts,
Robby Thompsoin and the human stiff, Tony Atlas! 

More opinions upcoming,

Mark
From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: To Job or Not to Job (WAS Re: Chono vs. Rude)
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:20:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: askinc.Bx9Hy0.E1F
Distribution: world
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov5.075100.6544@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, Dominic Macika writes:
>In article <Bx746r.C9L@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> hekunze@violet.uwaterloo.ca 
(Herb Kunze):
>>
>>  This, to me, is the major difference between Japanese "stars" and North
>>  American "stars."  Very few North American "stars" can do jobs without

>I have to partially disagree here.  How often does Choshu or Hansen or
>Tsuruta job?  I think there is an "elite" in Japan that are protected
>from jobs, sit just isn't as big as the group of people who avoid
>jobbing here in NA.
>-- 
>Dominic Macika

Well, Dom,.you sure got the "Tsuruta not jobbing" part right!  Alas,
I think I remember Choshu jobbing for Tsuruta often for a while in 
AJPW.  Hansen still jobs for Tsuruta, Misawa, and would probably 
even fall down after one of Baba's weak maneuvers (read:lovetaps).
Unfortunately, Tsuruta is old-school, and still only jobs about once
a year.  Any other time he loses is in tag matches, and that's what
Akira Taue/Yoshinari Ogawa/Inoue are for...

Nowadays, Choshu jobs or is on the losing side in tag matches with
great frequency; however, if you notice patterns, it seems like 
whenever the great Riki has done one job too many, he "suddenly"
wins the IWGP or Greatest 18 title.  This is kind of what Herb was
getting at when he mentioned stars jobbing keeping up the element
of surprise over in Japan.

Interestingly, WCW's Sting seems to have gone through a metamorphosis
like this recently (gets destroyed clean by Vader, gets destroyed clean 
by Rude/Vader/Roberts, comes back and beats Roberts [barely], and
eventually he'll kick the shit out of him.  Watch.).  Considering his
superstar status (and like him or not), you have to admit he shows one
HELL of a lot of character by agreeing to get "beat up" on PPVs/national
cable so often.

On the other hand, Japan can sometimes "overdo" the jobbing.  IMHO, a 
great--no, make that phenomenal--talent like Hiro Hase spends way too 
much time on his back while no-talent bozos like Tony Halme get pushed 
(why?).  And Muto's right behind in the job-too-much category.  I wonder
if these guys like coming to the US, since they get pushed and rarely have 
to job, at least not cleanly.

Well, anyway, Dom, that's what *I* see...

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

      Opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of   
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for! 

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================
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From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: "I Remember Gorgeous George"
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:48:28 GMT

I saw a 20-25 minute long show from PBS from around 1985 on video
last night.  It was called "I Remember Gorgeous George" and was
put together by a professor at the University of Utah (or so I
gathered).  Basically, this professor has really fond memories
of George and decides to finally try to live his childhood
fantasy of getting involved in wrestling.  It's sort of a
documentary at first, with the prof showing the wild crowds
at some AWA house shows and talking about whether wrestling is 
"fake."  He does a good job of handling this, saying something
to the effect that the question is the wrong one to ask - the
real point is that people, both fans & wrestlers, *believe*.
He went on to talk to a retired wrestler (Ox Anderson, I think)
in a local strip club (with girls performing in the background)
and feel him out about his chances of getting involved in the
sport.  Ox basically tells him that as a journalist, if he gets
involved in the sport for a story, a wrestler will be forced
to hurt him.  The wrestlers he talks to (Bockwinkel, Jimmy Garvin,
Steve Keirn, Stan Lane, etc.) all say the same thing: "While I
may be nice to you here during this interview, in the ring I'd
have to kill you."  Curt Hennig agrees to train with him though.
Curt really puts him through the paces and the guy can't do
half the exercises Curt does.  So he decides that he can't
be wrestler.  What then?  He decides to try to become a referee.
Same problem.  Refs get beaten up by wrestlers and fans.  Then
it hits him.  He'll become a manager.  Sure enough, he gets to
manage Curt Hennig during a Hennig-Bockwinkel match.  Before
the match, Bockwinkel tells him that if he does anything other 
than sit on the chair at ringside, if Bockwinkel has the chance
he'll nail him.  Of course, Bockwinkel cheats like crazy and
finally the prof can't take any more and gets on the apron
and yells at the ref.  Bockwinkel clocks him.  They cut to him
going to back to the locker room.  He says that he knows what
you want to ask him: "Did Bockwinkel really hit him or not?"
Well, he knows the answer and Bockwinkel knows the answer,
but to you it shouldn't be a question if you *believe*.

It was a pretty neat show, with this guy spouting verses from
famous poets and showing wrestling action with a classical
music soundtrack.  He really tried to make it into some sort
of beautiful thing.  

                                                      Herb...
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