HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eroth@Apple.COM (Rico)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Nike commercial
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:16:03 GMT
Organization: Yet Another California Computer Co., Inc.

In article <1992Mar31.181738.8487@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
finn@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (James Finn) writes:
   In article <22150@goofy.Apple.COM> eroth@Apple.COM (Rico) writes:
   >
   >   ... A new Nike commercial with "Instant Karma" playing...
   >
   >I have to say I find this kind of bitching to be, at best, a
   >mis-guided respect for a dead artist's work, and at worst a pretty
   >sanctimonius attempt at political correctness.

   I don't see why protesting against turning a dead man into a
   prostitute is sanctimonious. You might not agree with the
   criticism, but it doesn't seem sanctimonious to me.


My American Heritage Dictionary says:

   Sanctimony  n.  Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical 
                   highmindedness.

It was the 'highmindness' that struck me.  The music was used for
advertising, which is of course carried out by capitalist
scum-suckers, therefore we must boycott the company involved (my
interpretation from an admittedly brief post.)  Seems pretty
knee-jerk to me.

Nor do I agree that avertising = prostitution.  How about a little
meat to your argument?  Jerry does comercials for blue jeans &
accepts royalties from the ice cream guys, Bobby does ads for the
gap & at least one NY clothing store.  I guess they're just a
bunch of crass, aging whores, eh?


Rico, the short-haired top-sidered Porsche dude you'll see lurking
at CalExpo, Shoreline, Vegas (at the Flamingo)....

-- 
Weasel--
	What about, like, rebuilds an' shit?
Rev. Stroker--
	I suppose that's cool.
--
From: ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu (Jude)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Mail Order
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:58:10 GMT
Reply-To: ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet

Someone asked if sending $6.75 instead of $6.25 would result in a big
ole rejection.  Well, I'm really sorry to say, but POSSIBLY.  What will
happen is that your order will not be handled until all of the correct
orders have been processed.  So it depends on the popularity of the
show, I guess, but I've been negged on  $0.50 extra before.

   Sorry.  :-(

                            -jude

I need a miracle...
From: "Andrew C. Rockefeller" <acr@uc1.ucsu.edu>
Subject: Pittsburg direections
Reply-To: acr@uc1.ucsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:18:46 GMT


High All

I am interested in directions to get to the venue in Pittsburg.
I want to get my shit together now and plan my lodging.
Thanx

Andrew R


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: axeman@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (Samir Chopra)
Subject: Re: SUMMER TOUR so far
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:03:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.231051.16048@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> abzcast@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Denise Castleton) writes:
>6/6    Rich Stadium, Buffalo, NY
>
>
>Mail-in starts 4/7 for the four announced dates at top.
>

Did the Allman Brothers deal come through or did that turn out to be just
a rumor?

Thanks!

take care,

Samir
-- 
"You guys are gonna smoke in the other room, the smoke will come drifting in
here..it'll look like rose stems, but there's tiny nooses hanging from them.."
From: sastxb@weevil.unx.sas.com (Thomas Bednarek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Carter-Finley vs Walnut Creek
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:12:58 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sastxb@weevil.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 470

In article <1992Apr3.142108.2081@stat.appstate.edu>, grs01150@stat.appstate.edu writes:
>
>My vote is for Carter-Finley just because of sheer numbers and ease of
>access.
>

	The rumor mill says June 19-20.
                                 ^^^^^

	Carter-Finley (NCSU's football stadium) is large;
last time they visited it was for one show. If the venue is
Walnut Creek, maybe they'll play two shows.

	That about sums it up for me ;)

				Tom
				(sastxb@vms.sas.com)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: David Gans <tnf@well.sf.ca.us>
Subject: GD Hour 186 and 187
Reply-To: tnf@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:04:36 GMT




Grateful Dead Hour no. 186
Week of April 13, 1992


Part 1  25:08
                  In cue: <music>
     :00     :48  Opening
     :48    7:00  Grateful Dead 4/3/86 Hartford Civic Center
                  IKO IKO
    7:48    7:29  ME AND MY UNCLE->
                  MEXICALI BLUES
   15:17     :10  Northern Exposure
   15:27    9:24  Jerry Garcia Band  (Arista 18690-2, 1991)
                  I SHALL BE RELEASED
   24:51     :17  ID
                  Out cue: ...when the Grateful Dead Hour continues.

   25:08     :58  Music bed for local announcements
   26:06     :09  Pause

Part 2  30:08
                  In cue: And now, here are some scenes from next week's...
   26:15     :39  Introduction
   26:54   10:46  Grateful Dead 4/3/86 Hartford Civic Center
                  BIRD SONG
   37:40   18:20  SUPPLICATION->
                  LET IT GROW->
                  DON'T EASE ME IN
   56:00     :23  Outro
                  Out cue: and I'll meet you back here next week.



Grateful Dead Hour no. 187
Week of April 20, 1992


Part 1  27:24
                  In cue: <music>
     :00     :16  Opening
     :16   26:56  Grateful Dead April 1, 1990 The Omni, Atlanta
                  VICTIM OR THE CRIME->
                  TO LAY ME DOWN->
                  THE MUSIC NEVER STOPPED
   27:12     :12  ID
                  Out cue: ...when the Grateful Dead Hour continues.

   27:24    1:00  Music bed for local announcements
   28:24     :08  pause


Part 2  26:58
                  In cue: And now, here are some scenes from next week's...
   28:32     :37  Introduction
   29:09   25:56  Grateful Dead April 1, 1990 The Omni, Atlanta
                  CHINA CAT SUNFLOWER->
                  I KNOW YOU RIDER;
                  SHIP OF FOOLS->
                  MAN SMART, WOMAN SMARTER
   55:05     :25  Outro
                  Out cue: and I'll meet you back here next week.
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 13:43:28 EDT
From: <MAH76X@ROHVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Ugly Rumor-mongerers
 <1992Apr14.034137.25588@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <2731@unisql.UUCP>
 <92105.143233MAH76X@ROHVM1.BITNET> <2738@unisql.UUCP>


In article <2738@unisql.UUCP>, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) says:
>        If someone posted "Hey, I hear Joe Doheny is smoking crack
>and molesting little girls again.  Is it really true?"  I'd react the
>same way.  Because someone is a public figure is no reason to take
>liberties with their reputations.  It's rude to talk about anyone that
>way, new on Usenet or not.

I agree with you about 100%.  I don't like seeing bits and pieces of facts of
anybody's personal life being brought public.  I'm a private person, I have
a private life, and I like it that way :-).  Is it right for us to judge the
original poster with an iron fist, and punish him with flames?  What's wrong
with an e-mail note to the fellow telling him that a majority of the net.heads
find postings of that nature offensive?  If the dude is consistently doing it,
yeah, take out a flame war with him.  But if the dewd was new to the society
here, and tried to contribute (not knowing our unwritten laws), then found
net.heads crawling over each other to crucify him, I think it would scare him
off.  I don't think we want to scare anybody off, do we?  I think we want
people to respect our space, and in return we'll do the same.  Sure, maybe
he violated our space with his original posting, but shit, give the guy a
second chance.  He's probably a hell of a nice guy if you got to meet him.
But then again, maybe he doesn't want to even try with us now that we've all
thrown our rocks at him, because he made what WE consider a mistake.  I've
cast many a stone in my net.time here.  And who knows, maybe I'll cast many
a more.  I think a lot of us are drinking a little bit too much coffee :-O.
Ready to fight each other to jump down somebody else (who IS a Deadhead, and
has at least ONE thing in common with us all) throat.  I've been guilty of it
in the past myself :-(.

Joe Doheny
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jp@darkstar.com (J Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: 10/31/91 Tree Update -- SBD seed!
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:02:37 GMT
Reply-To: jp@darkstar.com
Organization: The Internet


Thanks to the generosity of net-heads, I will be able to improve the  
seed for this tree to a low-gen soundboard. :-) So if you're  
interested in a board of 10/31/91 Halloween in Oakland, fill out the  
following form:

------------------------Cut Here------------------------------
Name:
e-mail:

Will you make copies?:
Number of copies:
Equipment:

Tape Type:
Noise Reduction:
Special Preferences:

Will you trade?:
Or send blanks?:

Comments:

------------------------Cut Here------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: rlewis@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Robert Lewis)
Subject: Lost Show
Originator: rlewis@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:03:48 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Revolutionary Karma and Nike Shoes
Organization: not very
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:10:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.221836.1519@news.Hawaii.Edu>
barnes@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Joshua Edward Barnes) writes:

>                                                  In chosing the
>words for _Revolution_, John Lennon was drawing on images and values
>created by an entire generation of open-minded people.  _Revolution_
>pointed up the basic tension between political activism and spiritual
>growth which was one of the mainsprings of the '60s.  We trusted
                                                       ^^
>Lennon with such material, and the sensitivity he displayed showed
>that our trust was not misplaced.

I don't know about you, but nobody asked me whether I trused John
Lennon (or the NY Times, or anybody else) to write about what was
going on.  He (and they) just used it, which everybody has the right
to do.

>    So although the legal rights to _Revolution_ may indeed be sold to
>the highest bidder, the meaning of this song came from the collective
>hopes and dreams of millions of folks, and these things are not for
>sale (at least, I don't remember putting *my* dreams up for sale).

There's enough flamage here already about the meaning of songs.  Your
meaning comes from your hopes and dreams; my meaning may be something
entirely different.

>When Nike used _Revolution_, they stripped the song of the meaning we
>had given it.

It still has the same meaning to me.  Nobody else can change that
without my permission.

>               _Revolution_ once had millions of *different* cultural
>referents -- it's cold comfort that it's now associated with even a
>very good brand of running shoes.

So now it has one more meaning (maybe), to you.  So what?  If you
don't like it, that's what the "off" switch is for.

>    In sum, *I* as an individual feel ripped off because my cultural
>horizons have been narrowed by the insensitive decisions of some
>faceless advertising executives.

Something new can either widen my horizons, or fail to widen them.
How can they be narrowed?

>                        I don't see how it's possible to reclaim a
>song once it's been made into an advertising jingle; the only thing
>left to do is strike it from the repertory, perhaps forever.

How do you feel about "Dire Wolf"?  About 20 years ago, there was an
anti-littering campaign with a theme song that went

"Don't litter please
 I beg of you, don't litter please
 Please don't litter please..."

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu (Lee Silverman)
Subject: Tape Deck Survey
Organization: Brown University
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 20:52:10 GMT

Sorry if this appears twice; I'm using a rather flaky netnews interface.
----------
   Hello!
   I'm not quite sure how to introduce this - It may sound
a little odd if you don't know who I am, or if you don't
understand what I'm doing.  It's a bit tough to introduce
myself in this setting, so I guess I'll leave that alone, but
I'll try to explain a bit about what I'm trying to do.
   Over the past year or so, I've volunteered or been
called on to run 'tape trees' for various groups like
rec.music.gdead and rec.music.phish.  If you don't know what
it is, a tape tree is a way of distributing tapes to a large
number of people: I have a tape that I want everyone to have,
so I make copies for 5 people, and each of them makes copies for
5 more people, and each of them makes copies for 5 more
people, and so on until everyone who's asked for them has
tapes.  (For Grateful Dead and Phish tapes, this is
completely legal, and is done with the blessing of the band.)
The whole thing is organized with two things in mind:
1)That nobody gets tapes from two people, and 2)That the
tapes lose as little of their quality as possible in the
copying.  To further the second cause, I always ask people to
tell me what kind of tape decks they'll be using to dub, and I put
the people with the best decks at the top of the list.
   Recently it has occurred to me that there are a LARGE
number of cassette tape decks out there, and I'm sure I don't
know about them all.  So what I'd like to do with this survey
is collect specs and features for a large number of tape
decks and put them together into a large list.  I think this will
benefit not only people like me who build tape trees, but also
anyone who is shopping for a new tape deck, or who is trading
tapes with someone and wants to know what kind of deck they
have.

   If you have a few spare minutes, please fill out the
form below and mail it back to me.  I'll post the list of
tape decks here sometime soon, after all the replies die down
and I get the thing organized.
   Thanks very much for your time and effort!

Manufacturer's Name:
Model Number:
What year was this deck produced?
Is this a single deck or dubbing deck?
If single, is this a three-head deck?

Next to each feature listed, please fill in yes or no:
Azimuth Adjustment/tracking (Nak only):
Auto Bias/Rec Level Calibration:
Closed Loop/Dual Capstan Mechanism:
Amorphous Heads:
Dolby HX Pro:
Bias Adjustment:
Record Level fine adjust:
Dolby (unspecified) (mostly on older decks, before C):
Dolby B:
Dolby C:
Dolby S:
dBX:
Record Level Adjust:
Automatic Music Search:
Auto Reverse:
Real-Time Counter:
Digital Counter:
High-Speed Dubbing:
Start-up Timer:
I, II, IV Auto Selection:
I, II, IV Manual Selection:
MPX Filter:

Other Features I may have forgotten about:

Anything else you want to tell me:


Thanks very much for your time!  I'll publish this list as
soon as I can, so keep an eye out for it.

Please send replies to me, Lee Silverman, at:
ST101137@BROWNVM     Pandion@Brown.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: breese@elements.rpal.rockwell.com (Jack Breese)
Subject: Re: Help finding Bobby's "Dolphin Dreams"
Organization: Rockwell International Palo Alto Lab
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:41:33



In article <2049@transfer.stratus.com> scooter@hirgon.hw.stratus.com (Scott Jeffrey) writes:

	   Can anyone tell me how or where I might find a copy of "Dolphin 
   Dreams" in the norteastern Mass., southern NH area?  Publisher and catalogue

It's called Panther Dreams.   Your local bookseller will have an
easier time finding it for you with the right title. You could
try 1-800-CAL-DEAD, too.

-Jack
From: durham@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Terri Durham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: tickets to vegas
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:31:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36121
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR



      hello fellow heads, i'm in a great mood because i'm flyin' to
      vegas!!!!  i have a buddy down in frisco that i'm getting my
      tickets from, but i've just recently heard that BASS will accept
      credit card phone orders. my boyfriend called this morning and
      talked to someone.  problem is that he isn't sure if this someone
      knows what she was talking about.  so.... you might want to give
      them a ring yourself.

      i'm also looking for info on the eel river, squaw valley, reggae on 
      the river, or any other cool music festivals going on this summer!!

      looking forward to Autzen!!!

      peace all,   
   

       terri
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Subject: Wrong Rat
Reply-To: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 11:55:16 GMT


In a previous article, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) says:

>In article <1992Apr4.191518.24306@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall) writes:
>>Remember when wharfie pulled that "It's my sandbox and
>>my Tonka toys and were gonna play my way" crap with
>>those extra tickets of his?  
>
>	Hell, *I* don't even remember it...  Sure you have the right rat?
>
No he doesn't, and he's taking a pot shot at me.  If he stopped eating so 
much peyote, maybe his memory would be clear enough to remember it was me,
rather than you.  It was only 6 months ago.

Rich "The No Drugs Guy"
-- 
*****************************************************************
*   Rich Wainwright               Some folks are electricians   *
*   BG377@cleveland.freenet.edu   others plumber's wives.       *
*****************************************************************
From: garry@alice.att.com (garry hodgson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: SYF cursor
Summary: let's have it...
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:56:56 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

In article <4dvF52S00hYoEFC0Yv@andrew.cmu.edu>, dh10+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Christian Homan) writes:

	Along similar lines.... if you have a NeXT, I have a SYF login window
	for you.   (If you don't have a NeXT, but you can image TIFF files, I
	still have a SYF login window for you....)

You might want to send it to wherever the current dead ftp site is.
Then lots of folks could play with it.

Is it in color?

-- 
Garry Hodgson			A slow winter day
AT&T Bell Labs			A night like forever
garry@alice.att.com		Sink like a stone
att!alice!garry			Float like a feather
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Laurae Pearson <laurae@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: You know when you're a Deadhead when v.1.1
Reply-To: laurae@cisco.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:26:00 GMT

Actually, it is the Tamalpais Chiefs, named after Mt. Tamalpais, located
in the Marin Headlands, CA.

					laurae

| ------------------------------
| 
| From: Phydeaux <reb@ingres.com>
| Subject: re: You know you're a Deadhead when v. 1.1
| Reply-To: reb@ingres.com
| Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 18:05:58 GMT
| 
| re: #50, It's the Timpalis Chiefs (I may have the spelling wrong too ;-)
| 
|                                 reb
| 
| ------------------------------
From: wuly@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Mt Tamalpais revisited...
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:04:17 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Howdy folks-
	Remember a week or so ago people were talking about Mt Tamalpais? Well,
here's a wier'd coincidence...
	I happened to be looking through a drawer of beetles today (I work at
the Cornel University Insect Collection) and as my eyes were scanning over a 
little box of Byturellus grisescens (Jayne) (Coleoptera: Byturidae for those
entomologists out there) I happened to notice that a few of the poor little
buggers were from no where else but Mt Tamalpais, CA. They had been collected
April 18, 1920, almost exactly 72 years before our discussion! Ok, no cosmic
significance here, but I thought it was neat...
	ODC: Besides possibly the Eugene and Mt View shows, the only summer 
show I can get to is Buckeye Lake (I'm going to be in Costa Rica collecting
bugs for the entire month of June). Is this place Pretty? Cool? What should I
expect when I get back to the States?
Laid back? Let mezack  falin

	Later,
From: Ward_Travis@TRANSARC.COM
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Scouting Report: Star Lake
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:17:34 GMT


My friend Ken adds a little to the recent scouting report on Star
Lake. I'm forwarding this for him until we get his mailer straightened
out. Sounds like Star Lake has some intense carding :-|

-wt

[headers cut]

Really-rilly-From: Ken Ziolkowski <kenz@transarc.com>

---------- Forwarded message begins here ----------
Ward,

  Nice review but I'd like to add three
points:

  1. Star Lake allows NO coolers, jugs,
     etc. inside the actual ampitheatre.
     However, once inside, they will sell
     you as much beer as you can consume.

  2. Take some sort of photo ID with you.
     They card *** EVERYONE *** at the
     concession stands. I never carrry ID
     with me and was carded at the Bonnie
     Raitt show there 2 years ago. I borrowed
     a friends ID and they didn't give me
     or the ID a second look.  And we look
     as much alike as Jerry Brown and Jerry
     Jerry Garcia.
     The fact that I am 37 and sporting a
     "touch of grey" in the hair and beard
     did not stop them from asking for ID.
     The concession workers are told to card
     EVERYBODY.

  3. Take a blanket to sit/lie on.  Star Lake
     allows lawn chairs, but you have to rent
     THEIR lawn chairs.

Ken







Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: wwilliam@dvorak.amd.com (Wade Williams)
Subject: Re:  MetalHead violence
Organization: Austin, Texas
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:13:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.164007.12142@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>
> blayman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bram J Layman) writes:
>
>|she would beworking the Metallica shows they were advertising on the 
>|scoreboard.  She said she was and was unsure what to expect.  I told her I'd
>|never seen them, but that she should not expect anything as easygoing as
>|Deadheads. 
>
>What a bigoted, self-centered, paranoid statement!!!
>If you've never seen Metallica, just where do you get off saying that
>Deadheads are more "easygoing?"  Do you believe everything you read
>in the papers?
>
>|(Flameproof:  I am not stereotyping Metal fans in this post
>  ^^^^^^^^^^
>Should read Brainless!  Of course you aren't stereotyping.  Stereotyping
>requires that a generalize from a small number of experiences -- you admit
>to _no_ experience.  
>
>Actually you remind me the bullshit people with _no_ experience spread
>around about Deadheads.  Why don't you go to a show and report back
>later -- if you've got the balls.
>
>Steve-TOO
>

 Gotta love it!  At least there is consistency in r.m.i.  Still rappin
about sexist Dead lyrics, bitchin about slow trees, and flamin by reno.

....and I am still reading every one of these posts %-/

Wade
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead