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From: rpendse@velveeta.mfg.hou.compaq.com (Raju Pendse)
Subject: Astroturf for Field Hockey
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:06:41 GMT

 I have some questions regarding playing conditions for hockey matches in the
European countries and also the Asian/Oz/NZ  countries. How wide is the usage ofAstroturf in these regions. I know that there were no astroturf fields in India a decade ago. Are there any astroturf fields in India, and Pakistan.

Is there any rule in the FIH regarding playing all world cup and olympic matchesonly on astroturf. On a related note does anybody reading this newsgroup have any idea as to how much it costs to install an astroturf field and then maintain
it properly. Ball park figures would do. 

Lets wish all the olympic teams the best as it gets underway tomorrow and may the best teams (India/Pakistan -:) -:) wink wink) win.

Raju Pendse
From: srivasta@physics.ucla.edu (Srivastava)
Subject: Re: Predictions , not mine
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:08:05 GMT

Richard (airdg@uk.ac.ed.castle) writes:

>	Without meaning to be racist, but there does seem to 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	be mainly Indians and Pakistanis posting to this
>	newsgroup, and hence giving their (biased) views that
>	their respective teams are going to win 2 out of the
>	three medals in Barcelona.

    Just that disclaimer doesn't make it a non-racist comment. Anyways,
    I am not here to discuss whether you are racist or not (some other
    forum ...). 

    Your main gripe seems to be that there are too many Ind/Paks on this
    news-group (which makes me doubt the sincerity of your disclaimer) 
    because you can't possibly be naive enough to think that
    other (non Ind/Pak) opinions are not biased. Every body follows the
    teams that they like and it is natural to root for one's team. Most
    of the netters don't follow hockey as their profession so their
    opinion may be less informed, but then again all those "biased
    pakistanis" had the final laugh over the so called experts in the
    world-cup cricket.

    I thought rest of your article was quite good (though biased).
    --Sanjay.


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From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re:Olympics' Prediction (Could be Wrong)
Date: 22 Jul 1992 22:25:27 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Pakistan and Germany for two of the top three positions is a very safe bet, IMHO
- they have consisitently proved their mettle over the years. On the other hand,
it would take a die-hard optimist to bet on India for a medal - no, don't be 
taken in by their successful buildup to the Olympics - they've had such buildups
before almost any Olympics/World Cup since 1975. Given the present nature of
international hockey and India's track record at major tournaments since '75
(The '80 Olympics was not major, IMHO) I would be exteremly pleased to see
India in the semis - period.

Any more die-hard India/Asian hockey fans around??!!

Sudhama
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Predictions , not mine
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:41:44 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Jul24.005749.4449@cs.wayne.edu> uds@siva.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju) writes:
>
>Why are everyone counting out the S.Koreans from the top-three posittion
>race ?  I havent heard them play many mathces in the recent past.  Have they ?

	This all depends on whether you are talking about
	the S.Korean MENS or WOMENS team. Things on this
	newgroup seem to boil down to the men only (are
	there in fact ANY women reading this ??), in which
	case S.Korea cannot even be considered. I for one
	can't even remember if they are in the mens section.

	On the other hand, if we are talking about the S.
	Korean Womens team, then we are almost definitely
	talking medals. Past experience has shown them to
	be the best. As far as I know, they beat the USA to
	win the Womens World Cup last time. As for their
	strenghts now, I cannot say, but, if they are there
	in the womens competition, look out - they're going
	to be in the medals.

	BTW, does any one have a schedule for the ladies ??

Richard.
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From: zafarha@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Haseeb Zafar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: More Predictions ...
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:07:24 GMT
Organization: ECE DREXEL UNIVERSITY

In article <1992Jul23.094413.29231@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au>, graeme@skylark.uwa.oz.au (Graeme Reid) writes:
> 
> Here are some more (definately biased) predictions for the Olympics
> 
> Gold	-	Australia
> Silver	-	Germany
> Bronze	-	Netherlands
> 
> Australia - well I have to back them gold :-) plus it's the first
> olympics for as long as I can remember where they haven't been
> favourites, which on past performance should guarentee them a medal.
> 
> Germany - Will finish top of their pool (just too strong), and look
> invinsible until the upset in the final ...
> 
> Netherlands - the dark horse, picked mainly because no one else has
> backed them for a medal and I know they're capable of it.  Besides,
> if people can back India (Pargat) for a medal then why not the Netherlands
> (Bouvelander) ?
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Graeme Reid				Computer Science Department
> email: graeme@cs.uwa.edu.au		The University of WA
> Phone: +61 9 380 3456			Nedlands   WA   6009
> 
> 

No more predictions, this stuff is based on reality.

1.Pakistan  (GOLD)
2.India      (SILVER)
3.Australia    (BRONZE)

We donot have enough artificial turfs still Pakistan and India are going to prove 
that they have the natural talent.  
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From: vish@coho.ECE.ORST.EDU (G Diwakar Vishakhadatta;;;;)
Subject: Re: Predictions , not mine
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:21:10 GMT

In article <24043@castle.ed.ac.uk> airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey) writes:
>	Yes, Pakistan may have won the BMW trophy, but that
>	means nothing. In the build up to the Olympic Games
(Explanation of how Euro and Ozzie teams have something up their sleeves
deleted)

On the face of it, this would apply to the Indian and Pakistani teams too: but
I have to agree with Richard.  Both the Asian (ex)super powers went to
Europe with a single objective-to get ahead in the rankings.  These are the
teams that had something to prove, while teams like Germany and the
Netherlands probably let them have a good time.  Both India and Pakistan have
a long way to go before they earn laurel wreaths.  The teams from the 
sub continent have been one- or two- man teams( well,at least for India: apart
from Pargat, the only consistent contributor has been Jagbir Singh).  Definitely
not a recipe for success in a "total-hockey" game.

Its' great that at least two people have volunteered to keep us posted with the
Barcelona hockey news.  Between them, we should get most of the coverage down
pat.Now if only we could get some hockey out of NBC to justify paying those
bloodsuckers a fortune . . .

Cheers,

Diwakar.

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From: uds@siva.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Subject: Re: Predictions , not mine
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:57:49 GMT


Why are everyone counting out the S.Koreans from the top-three posittion
race ?  I havent heard them play many mathces in the recent past.  Have they ?



Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Predictions , not mine
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:17:15 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Jul21.152121.4663@gw.wmich.edu> x90mumtaz@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>Taking Pakistan to Bronze place is certainly not a good idea. If I am not
>wrong then Pakistan just recently won the BMW challenge Hockey some where
>in Europe. I am sure Germany, Holland and Australia had also taken part in
>that tournament, but non could defeat Pakistan. Therefore PAK stands a very 
>good chance of not only getting into the final but also winnig it.
>
>Atif[ whose views are ALWAYS based on facts] Mumtaz
>
>E-MAIL: X90MUMTAZ@GW.WMICH.EDU

	Without meaning to be racist, but there does seem to 
	be mainly Indians and Pakistanis posting to this
	newsgroup, and hence giving their (biased) views that
	their respective teams are going to win 2 out of the
	three medals in Barcelona.

	Yes, Pakistan may have won the BMW trophy, but that
	means nothing. In the build up to the Olympic Games
	do you honestly think the Euro teams or the Aussies
	are NOT going to have any special ideas how to deal
	with the Indians or the Pakistanis ? Let alone, do
	you think they would quite happily display their entire
	match plans for all the opposition to see ?

	Any international team of any credibilty will have things
	to show an oppostion who they may have played the previous
	day, but not in a tournament of such import as the
	Olympics.

	I refuse to make any predictions, except that you can
	count out the GB team for the medals. Just because they
	have won medals at the last two Olympics, doesn't make
	them any more favourite than the Indians or the Pakistani
	teams (or less). 

	It's the other European teams who have the experience 
	and technical know how to show themselves "weakend" in
	the light of pre-Olympic tournaments.

	Who knows anything about the Unified team ??? ....

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From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field,rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.indian
Subject: HOCKEY: Results Sunday
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:43:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E250.265A4940
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey.field
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

Hi there

Results
-------

Australia b Argentina 7-0
Spain b New Zealand 3-0

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RAM            		       BULLS -93	

Politicians' statements tend to have a low specific gravity.
They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
		- Jonathan Miller
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From: x90mumtaz@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Predictions , not mine
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:21:21 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Jul21.154857.14441@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, ramprasa@cstr.ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna) writes:
>>and it gave the following prediction for medals
>>Gold - Germany
>>Silver - Australia
>>Bronze - Pakistan
>>
> 
> SI must have consulted a person who new hockey, since on present form this seems the bookies choice too. 
> 
> Anyway it is my feeling that as long as the Dutch have Bovelander on song , thay havr a great chance .Remember Lahore 1990. when Bovelander just carried the team through. 

Taking Pakistan to Bronze place is certainly not a good idea. If I am not
wrong then Pakistan just recently won the BMW challenge Hockey some where
in Europe. I am sure Germany, Holland and Australia had also taken part in
that tournament, but non could defeat Pakistan. Therefore PAK stands a very 
good chance of not only getting into the final but also winnig it.

Atif[ whose views are ALWAYS based on facts] Mumtaz

E-MAIL: X90MUMTAZ@GW.WMICH.EDU

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From: bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu)
Subject: Hold those flames!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 04:47:59 GMT


My newsreader is playing tricks once again. Every time I tried to post the
GB vs India article it gave the impression that the posting failed. And
then presto! Dumped all of them on the net. So bear with me. Thanks.
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Result: Tuesday
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:35:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E413.C94BFE40
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

hi

Australia b Egypt 5-1

Earlier India b Argentina 1-0
CIS b Malaysia 7-3

bye.

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RAM            		       BULLS -93	

Politicians' statements tend to have a low specific gravity.
They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
		- Jonathan Miller
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 30 Jul 1992 17:34:17 MST
From: Nauman Mysorewala. <PAKEDITR@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Mens Hockey July 30th results (complete)

               Summer Olympics '92
                 Mens Field Hockey

                  Point Table

Pool A          M  W  L  T  G AG Pts

Australia       3  2  0  1 12  1  5
Germany         3  2  0  1  5  0  5
Britian         3  2  1  0  5  3  4
India           3  1  2  0  2  6  2
Argentina       3  1  2  0  1  8  2
Egypt           3  0  3  0  1  8  0


Pool B          M  W  L  T  G AG Pts

Netherlands     3  3  0  0 12  3  6
Pakistan        3  3  0  0 11  2  6
Spain           3  2  1  0 10  5  4
Unified         3  1  2  0 10  8  2
New Zealand     3  0  3  0  3  6  0
Malaysia        3  0  3  0  6 16  0


Game Results

July 26th

Won          G    Los          G

Pool A
Australia    7    Argentina    0
Britian      2    Egypt        0
Germany      3    India        0

Pool B
Netherlands  5    Unified      2
Pakistan     4    Malaysia     1
Spain        3    New Zealand  0


July 28th

Won          G    Los          G

Pool A
Australia    5    Egypt        1
Germany      2    Britian      0
India        1    Argentina    0

Pool B
Netherlands  3    Spain        2
Pakistan     1    New Zealand  0
Unified      7    Malaysia     3


July 30th

Won          G    Los          G

Pool A
Australia (T 1    Germany      1
Argentina    1    Egypt        0
Britian      3    India        1


Pool B
Netherlands  4    New Zealand  3
Pakistan     6    Unified      2
Spain        5    Malaysia     2



Nauman K. Mysorewala
Coordinator Pakistan News Service
Owner Listserv, PAKISTAN@ASUACAD, MUSLIMS@ASUACAD
Internet: PAKEDITR@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
Bitnet  : PAKEDITR@ASUACAD
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From: kgonsal@eng.clemson.edu (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Subject: Re:     1992 Olympics - Men's Hockey Tournament
Reply-To: kgonsal@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:10:27 GMT

Will you guys refrain from posting results in crappy format, p-a-l-e-a-s-e !!!

If you want to refer to th standard format, pl see the previous posting of Rizwan Hasnie.

 
Sorry to say this...

but it is an irritant

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken.
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: RESULTS : Thursday
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:25:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E63B.A9727FC0
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

hi there

Results of yesterday's games:

Britain 3 India 1
Aregentina 1 Egypt 0
Australia 1 Germany 1
Netherlands beat Newazealand 4-3
Spain beat Malaysia
Pakistan 6 CIS 2

bye,

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RAM            		       BULLS -93	

Politicians' statements tend to have a low specific gravity.
They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
		- Jonathan Miller
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From: robin@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Robin Lickley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: New penalty corner rule
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:30:14 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research, Edinburgh University

In article <1518@grivel.une.edu.au>, dwright@metz.une.edu.au (Denis Wright) writes:
|> Steven Christensen writes:
|> 
|> >I am quite concerned that this rule will make penalty corners even
|> >more dangerous than they currently are.  Since the obvious attacking
|> >strategy is to trap the ball just outside the circle, and bunt or
|> >push it inside the circle for some powerful brute to 'fly-hit' at goal.
|> >My concern is that this strategy will lead to more lifted and less
|> >controlled shots at goal.
|> 

Wasn't this rule introduced for a while in the 70s or early 80s? I seem to 
remember it having just the effect you are concerned about and being glad 
I was a centre-forward. 



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                                            Robin J. Lickley
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From: hasnie@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Rizwan Hasnie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: India vs GB
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:25:16 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul30.105824.15862@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu) writes:
> Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
> Subject: India vs GB
> Summary: 
> Followup-To: 
> Distribution: world
> Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
> Keywords: 
> 
> 
> The match began with both teams trying to settle into a rythm and
> there was no serious challenge in the first 10 min by either
> team.  Kerly then broke through from the left and earned a free 
> hit just outside the Indian D when he was checked but the hit 
     (lot of stuff deleted)
> 3-1 to GB and 8-10 min of play left. The Indians then missed 
> another PC, their 4th. A 5th PC was awarded to India but with 
> only 1 1/2 min remaining India had lost the match. The 5th PC led 
> to another PC and that to yet another one but the hooter sounded 
> before it could be taken. Final score GB 3, India 1.

 Excellent work Mr Bholu.
 Please keep posting such summaries.
 Thank You very much.
 
 I'd appreciate if anyone who has access to running commentary or has the
 previlege of witnessing the matches to please post such summaries for
 people like myself who'd like to know more about the match than just the
 final scores.

 Rizwan
From: hasnie@tiger.ecn.purdue.edu (Rizwan Hasnie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: test matches
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:37:21 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul24.092505.28869@fwi.uva.nl>, dam@fwi.uva.nl (Joris van Dam) writes:
> 
> MEN
> England - Holland : 2 - 2
> England took an early lead in the first half and kept it until halftime. In the
  
  Just look at the Dutch form. They couldn't even beat the English side.
  I wonder how one can put Holland on top? An eye opener for Dutch supporters.

> 39st minute Bovenlander (who else ?) equalized. Once again, England took
> the lead, 2-1, but Bovenlander kept Holland alive in the 69st minute. I 
> am afraid that the Dutch are counting to much on Bovenlander. They have
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  True. That's why I call Netherlands a "one man's show".

> a lot of talent in their group, but the talent seems to be paralized and 
> restricted to forcing penalty corners. Together with their rather weak defence,
> it is time the Dutch woke up
> 
  Sorry!!  Too late now. Olympics are starting today. 

> NOTES
> While the Dutch were training penalty corners, Bovenlander missed his target 
> but rocketed the Dutch coach, Jorritsma, who had some trouble walking thereafter
  
  Good News for other teams. Bouvelander DOES miss his targets sometimes.

> The training was followed with interest by Carsten Fischer and a New Zeeland
> Cameraman. Since the taping of trainings is not allowed the cameraman was asked
> to leave. He responded he was tapin Bovenlander for the youngsters at 
> the school in his home town. Jorritsma proclaimed they came up with some
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> very interesting corners, unknown to anyone outside the squad. Wonder where
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     
> they practiced those ?
> 
> Joris

  Is that the secret weapon of the Dutch side? Or is it just a psychological
  propaganda? Even if they have found a good corner conversion technique
  their current field performance is not worth entitling them any major
  victory.

                 Rizwan.
  
  
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From: ramana@unislc.uucp (Ramana Ramachandran)
Subject: Re: Predictions , not mine
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:37:18 GMT

airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey) writes:
: In article <1992Jul21.152121.4663@gw.wmich.edu> x90mumtaz@gw.wmich.edu writes:

[...]

: >that tournament, but non could defeat Pakistan. Therefore PAK stands a very 
: >good chance of not only getting into the final but also winnig it.
: >
: >Atif[ whose views are ALWAYS based on facts] Mumtaz
: >
: >E-MAIL: X90MUMTAZ@GW.WMICH.EDU
: 
: 	Without meaning to be racist, but there does seem to 
: 	be mainly Indians and Pakistanis posting to this
: 	newsgroup, and hence giving their (biased) views that
: 	their respective teams are going to win 2 out of the
: 	three medals in Barcelona.

That there are more Indians and pakistanis posting in this group just
shows our liking for the game !!!. I have not seen any indian "predicting"
that the Indian team will win a medal (Hoping is an entirely different matter).
As far as pakistanis, I do feel that they have a good chance (based on their 
recent performance).IMHO every team would try their best to win a tournament
just prior to olympics bcos it gives that slight psycological edge.

No Iam not predicting anything.
Iam pissed that I cannot watch whereas u can :-)
one need not be a racist to throw wild accusations :-)

peace 
ramana [hoping against hope for a gold for India :-) :-)] ramachandran
ramana@unislc.slc.unisys.com