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From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: Re: The CULTURAL ELITE
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:44:53 GMT


petersob@uwec.edu (Brent Peterson) writes:

>I think in the context of Dan Qualye's original Family Values speech, it 
                               !!!!!!
>means the movie-makers, journalists, and network news anchors.  Qualye's 
                                                                 !!!!!!
>point was that these Elitists are influencing rather than reflecting what is 
>really happening in society.  This is evident today by looking at how the 
>media blatantly accepts the democrats while shunning all the republican 
>politicians.  Hollywood also makes the inner city's seem like warzones and 
>depicts men sleeping around on their wifes as normal.  

The "media"? "Hollywood"? These terms have about as much definition as
the "cultural elite".

-----
Eric Smith     erics@sco.com     erics@infoserv.com     CI$: 70262,3610

DQ: "... I know who they are, they know who they are,
     the American People [God Bless 'em!] know who they are."

Robin McNeil: "Yes, Mr. Vice President, but who are they, exactly?"

DQ: "Well, they know who they are, and the American People know who they are."

     - Dan Quayle, on the "cultural elite"
From: coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com (Don Coolidge)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Convention Revulsion
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:24:49 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Obligatory Dan Quayle reference: Dan made a carefully scheduled
"unexpected" appearance at the Republican convention yesterday,
just before Pat Buchanan's speech (at least that was the sequence 
in the rebroadcast I saw). Like the werewolf sipping a pina colada
at Trader Vic's, every hair was perfect. In fact, it looked damned
near impenetrable. Do you suppose it's actually a Kevlar hairpiece?
In a world that has produced Mark David Chapman, David Berkowitz, 
and Dan(?) Hinckley (why am I never sure how to spell that name? - 
must be the newsgroup :^), a guy just can't be too careful...:^)

Now, on to the meat.

I've always had a strong antipathy to Pat Buchanan. I suppose it
stems from the speeches he wrote for Richard Nixon, and it's only
ripened and grown over time, as I've come to understand the man and
his positions better. Even so, I was not prepared for the absolute
swill pouring from his mouth in his convention speech.

The man is a bigoted hatemonger, a blaspheming hypocrite, an
absolute canker on the body politic. His mean-spirited exercises
in dehumanizing have no place in American politics. He's much
more dangerous than David Duke, because for some incomprehensible
reason, large numbers of people take him seriously. But his
basic message is exactly the same.

Gay-bashing. Lies. Distortions. Innuendo. Revisionist history.
Slander. Demonizing of opponents. Racism. "That's not the change 
that God wants..."

fanatic (fu nat'ik) n. One who knows what God would do 
		       if only He were in possession of
		       all the pertinent facts.

(wonderful definition borrowed from the latest issue of Analog
Science Fact and Fiction Magazine)

It occurs to me that God is perfectly capable of knowing His
own mind, and of bringing His desires to fruition, without any 
"help" from the Pat Buchanans of this world.

I was embarrassed for the Republican party. I was embarrassed for 
the American public that cast votes for this slug in Presidential
primaries.

However...I was somewhat amused that when Pat squints his beady
little eyes and smiles his smug little smile, he looks exactly
like Jonathan Winters doing Maudie Frickett. :^) See, there's
a silver linig in every cloud.

Don Coolidge
coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: rod@unislc.uucp (Robert Despain)
Subject: Re: Takes a ticking and keeps on licking
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:12:29 GMT

Louis Gomes (lmg@natinst.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug11.204105.143821@cs.cmu.edu> alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn) writes:
: >In article <1992Aug11.091540@IASTATE.EDU> danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) writes:
: >>familly is a very good choice of a basic unit for conserving capital and
: >It is "family" not "familly", seems like Dan Q. desease has struck
: >another victim.
: 
: It is "disease" not "desease", seems like this is becoming rather
: circular, wouldn't you say?
: --
: louis

Only if you'd mispelled "circular".
[Note opening ^^^ left for others.]
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R.O.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: ronwill@sierra.sim.es.com (Ron Williams)
Subject: Re: The paths of the master
Reply-To: ronwill@sierra.sim.es.com (Ron Williams)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:07:55 GMT

In article <16846A1AC.DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com>, DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> I had occaision to be travelling through northern Indiana this week and want
> to recommend to all fans of Our Boy that they make the trip.  I can't tell you
> what a feeling it gives you to look over the barren, featureless prairie (rural
> america, real america, real, real america) and know that our dummy laureate
> may once have stood where you're standing, seen the same scene, breathed the
> same air, etc.  I had the urge to take a side trip to DePau and check out frat
> row and the golf course, but I guess I'll wait until after the election.  If
> our two favorite shitheads loose, I'll stop to lay a wreath at his frat on my
> way to Graceland.

I forget what city Dufus (DQ) is from.  Huntington stands out in my mind for 
some reason.  Have I got the right place?  I passed through Huntington a few 
years back (actually, I stayed for a couple weeks) and I wasn't particularly
impressed with the place.  I remember running into a drunk once that was in his 
30s, blond, and had a glassy eyed appearance that looked like a deer staring into
the headlights of an automobile -- naaaawwwww, couldn't of been. 

Oh, and I take issue with you calling Indiana a barren, featureless paririe.  I
thought it was very pretty -- at least the country.  The cities were ugly as hell.
-- 
Ron Williams
ronwill@sierra.sim.es.com
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Salt Lake City, UT

 		Utah - the state that wants to put a Pizza Hut in the
 		middle of Zion National Park.
From: jviv@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (John Viveiros)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: The CULTURAL ELITE
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:08:51 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <petersob.8.713838539@uwec.edu> petersob@uwec.edu (Brent Peterson) writes:
> Qualye's 
>point was that these Elitists are influencing rather than reflecting what is 
>really happening in society.  This is evident today by looking at how the 
>media blatantly accepts the democrats while shunning all the republican 
 ^^^^^
>politicians.  Hollywood also makes the inner city's seem like warzones and 
>depicts men sleeping around on their wifes as normal.  
>
>Brent Peterson

Jeez, do we have to hear another story about how the liberal media has
it in for all these poor starving Repu(gnant)blicans.  The media picks
on Bush and Quayle because they're in power.  It's not like they gave
Gary Hart an easy time of it back in 1988.  

I think that this "liberal" label to the media is just another example
of what is wrong with Republicans in general.  Their platform is
possibly superior to that of the Democrats, but they insult my
intelligence every chance they get.  They label everyone who disagrees
with them as liberal or communist or feminist or environmentalist wackos
in an effort to dehumanize these people.  Give it a rest.  No one fits
in those little groups you want to stick them in.

If that's (the original message) what Dan wanted to say, why didn't his
speechwriters just have him say that?  I understand and probably agree
in part, but I just get the impression he doesn't understand the words
he's speaking (Target Prices...  from JDQ quotes).

I'm sorry to say it, but I figure the guys lucky to have an IQ in the
triple digits.  He's an inspiration to all special people everywhere.

-- 
John Viveiros     (tjviv@chevron.com)
Chevron USA        Standard disclaimer applies
Midland TX 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: tak@tazboy.jpl.nasa.gov (Tom Kreitzberg)
Subject: Move over, Dan Quayle
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:32:07 GMT

Since I don't get the Comedy Channel, the Vice President's speech wasn't
nearly as amusing as I'd hoped it would be. But Senator Bob Dole more
than made up for it. Did anyone hear his claim that Republicans believe
in affordable hair care for everyone? Or his griping about the tax-and-
spend Canadians? I laughed so hard I didn't mind missing _The Simpsons_.

As for the Dandelion's speech, I was a little surprised as his penchant
for stealing rhetorical devices from his opponents. Lifting the "It's time
for them to go" refrain from Al Gore's acceptance speech was in keeping
with the Congress-bashing theme, but saying that Clinton is no Ronald
Reagan (and then standing there with that dopey smug expression while
the house cheered) was not only a rip-off of Benson's far more stinging
comment, but an especially meaningless comment in its own right: if he
had said that at the Democratic Convention, they would have cheered
just as loudly.

By the way, did anyone compare the number of times Bush referred to
Qualye in his acceptance speech to the number of times Clinton referred
to Gore in his?

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: rod@unislc.uucp (Robert Despain)
Subject: Re: The paths of the master
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:18:54 GMT

Ron Williams (ronwill@sierra.sim.es.com) wrote:

[Derogatory descriptions of other areas omitted]

: Hey, great idea!!  Ok all you damn Californians.  Utah is a
: barren, featureless desert. Stay the hell away.

[ Some sig stuff omitted]

: 	Utah - the state that wants to put a Pizza Hut in the
:  	middle of Zion National Park.

The body giveth and the sig taketh away.

Get your story straight, Ron.  [Thank God he didn't talk about
the proposed Drive-In Movie Theater proposed for Zion's.  There
would be cars backed up to Santa Clara waiting to get in.]
-- 
R.O. Despain                  |
Mature Products Group         |  Internet: rod@unislc.slc.unisys.com
(801) 594-4633                |      UUCP: ...!{sun, uunet}!unislc!rod
From: dbinford@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Binford)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Info wanted on Dan's GPA
Date: 15 Aug 92 13:33:17 GMT
Reply-To: dbinford@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Binford)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Originator: dbinford@daisy.cc.utexas.edu

The subject says it all.  I'm interested in his undergraduate GPA,
graduate school, graduate GPA--basically anything in his college
career.  If you don't know the numbers, please direct me to a source.
Post or reply.
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From: goldsman@CC.GATECH.EDU (Mike Goldsman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Old Video of Quayle at a Reagan Lunchin on Comedy Central
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:34:53 GMT

I caught the end of a video on Comedy Central last night
which showed a Reagan giving a speech to a group of people
at a lunch. (it looked about 10 years old or so...)

Everyone's eyes were fixed on Reagan and they were
deep in concentration eagerly awaiting each word of wisdom
Reagan spread.

That is except for a certain fair-haired lad in the Rforeground of
the bottom left of the screen.  He was the only on in the room
who was very busy eating his salad... toally oblivious to the speech.


Does anyone know more about this video? I only got a snippit or
two.. but it was hilarious!


Al Frankin is definitely the Comedy God.


-Mike
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From: luden@lehigh.edu (Dean E. Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.election
Subject: Re: The Dan-ster, looking forward.
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:31:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University Computing Center

In article <1992Aug20.115459.2291@u.washington.edu> 
cortez@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner) writes:

>In article <1992Aug20.001930.14061@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>>
>>Asked by Bernard Shaw of CNN if a Bush-Quayle victory this year would
>>make him the heir apparent in 1996, the Vice President answered:
>>
>>       "Let us get through this week.  Let us get through the debate
>>        or debates.  Let us see George Bush re-elected this November.
>>        And then we'll talk about 1994."

There are a couple of obviously plausible scenarios which might account for 
Mr. Vic President's faux pas.  He may have a compulsive disorder which 
compells him to subtract two before repeating them.  He may have the common 
inumeracy symptom of being able to add 4 to 2 and get 6 but not being able 
to add 4 to 1002 and get 1006.  In other words, the larger numbers make his 
head swim. 

>Could be his best chance to stay in government after 1996. I saw a poll
>of Republican delegates that had 40 percent favoring Kemp in '96 to 4
>percent favoring Quayle ... maybe Dan saw that one too, and has been
>thinking on his feet.

Is Mr. Vic President *really* related to that many delagates?

Dean Nelson  den0@lehigh.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: dbsgrm@Arco.COM (Gary R Meyers(214)754-4191)
Subject: Danny&Ted Nugent
Organization: ARCO Oil and Gas Company
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:20:32 GMT

Thus spake the keyboard of Eric Johnson-
In reference to Danny's sideburns:

>MTV reporter Ted Nugent will
>co-opt the act for his next tour. Thus Danny boy will have a new career -
>rock concert flame-pot.

Well, Ted Nugent already did it. Back in the late 60's, while he was _Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes_,
Ted played at a club just east of the Louisiana/Texas border--the Circle Club, I think. La. drinking age was 18, Texas 21, you get the picture.

Part of Ted's act was to pull a bow and arrow out, light the arrow, and send
it flaming into a head sitting on a speaker, stage left(or right).  The head was a mannequin head with a wig on. Yess, you got it....

Head shot.     

This particular nite, the arrow drove the head and wig, in flames, into the stage curtain. Fire ensued. Multiple pitchers of beer used as impromptu extinguishers.  Lots of _Wow, man, that was really tripping_.

We now return you to the Convention, which, by the way, IMHO, is best watched on the Comedy Channel...

Gary Meyers
dbsgrm@edm.arco.com
-- 
*    Gary Meyers        dbsgrm@Arco.COM
*  ARCO Exploration & 
*  Production Technology 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: glass@devl.fnal.gov (Michael Glass)
Subject: Re: Back to Dan (future career)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: glass@devl.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Distribution:  world
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 07:25:54 GMT

Eric Sieferman muses...

>So, what job does anyone think the Dandroid will perform when
>he is no longer veep?  In an unrelated question, what job is
>he really qualified for?

American Express commercial?

-- Michael Glass
   glass@adcalc.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: Re: Danny Goes to Mars
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:32:34 GMT
Organization: Society for Putting Things On Top of Other Things
Summary: Dan Quayle goes to Mars to win '96 election

In article <86377@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
>For those interested, the October 92 issue of ISAAC ASIMOV'S SCIENCE
>FICTION MAGAZINE has Pamela Sargent "Danny Goes to Mars".  The story
>takes place a few years from now, with Bush/Quayle re-elected, after
>a new fusion rocket is perfected, and Danny is on the first manned
>mission to Mars (3 weeks each way), partly to win the moron vote in
>'96.  Due to various mishaps, he ends up marooned on Mars alone for
>about a year.  The story does a wonderful job of capturing the mush
>that passes for Quayle thought.

It also wonderfully captures the mush that passes for Bushspeak.  Sargent
really lampoons the current administration; even brings back John Sununu
(White House staff call him Nunu behind his back).  Interestingly, the
story is told in first-person by Danoe, and he seems somewhat
aware that he isn't the smartest person in the room.  

>To pass the time, our hero watches one movie more than any other:
>FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF.  Can someone clue me in?  I assume it's
>some Mayberry RFD clone, but I don't know, and I wonder if this is
>some actual Quayle favorite.

No, actually it's the tale of a rich suburban brat who seems blessed
by the universe despite the shit he pulls.  Definitely an adolescent
male fantasy.

Going back to the story, the only thing implausible about it was
the fact that Bush had won a second term to begin with!  I will post
a synopsis later for those of you who don't get IASFM.


-- 
Maddi Hausmann                madhaus@netcom.com
Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

Centigram Communications Corp, San Jose California  408/428-3553
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: The Dan Quayle Scorecard
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:50:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Virginia

Number of times the following words or phrases appeared in Dan's speech
last night:

FAMILY: 10
VALUES: 9
BELIEFS: 4
GOD: 4
FAITH: 3
CHARACTER: 3
REFORM AGENDA: 3
FREEDOM: 2
HOLLYWOOD AND THE MEDIA ELITE: 2
LOW TAXES: 1
THE ENVIRONMENT: 1

Comments: "Hollywood and the Media Elite" I guess he now prefers this to
cultural elite. Perhaps by focusing on hollywood and the media he avoids
alienating the neo-fascist university republican types.

"Reform Agenda"- This consisted mainly of unspecified tort/legal reform (I 
agree--the liability system in this country sucks, but Dan has no plan for
changing this, other than to prevent big corporations from being sued) and
the school choice plan. Now, laying aside the merits or disadvantages of this
plan, does anyone really think that this is ALL our education system needs?
This is typical republicanism: support ONE narrow reform, and, shoudl the
democrats in congress fail to enact this 1 reform, blame them for stalled
problems.cf. "enterprise zones"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush
From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: Re: stupid, blood sucking media
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:41:13 GMT


kjcarey@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kevin J. Carey) writes:

>Bush "went ballistic" (I love that phrase) when the question was asked.
>His answer took the form of Bushese - "I won't respond except to deny
>the rumour" (i.e. a response). He attacked "CNN Sleaze", put on his
>indignant face, and then moved on to other questions. Apparently it's
>all in this morning's New York Post, though unfortunately, the source
>for the rumours is, you've guessed it, DEAD!

A White House aide also made the comment that the CNN reporter who asked
the question won't be covering any White House events from now on. I think
she will, though, only it will be after next January 20.

-----
Eric Smith     erics@sco.com     erics@infoserv.com     CI$: 70262,3610

"I see no media mention of it, but we entered in -- you asked what time
 it is and I'm telling you how to build a watch here -- but we had Boris
 Yeltsin here the other day.  And I think my times campaigning in Iowa,
 years ago, and how there was a -- Iowa has a kind of, I single out Iowa,
 it's a kind of an international state in a sense and has a great
 interest in all these things -- and we had Yeltsin standing here in the
 Rose Garden and we entered into a deal to eliminate the biggest and most
 ballistic missiles and it was almost, 'Ho-hum, what have you done for me
 lately?' "

 -George Bush, on why he should be re-elected
Subject: (no subject given)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:29:18 EDT
From: <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle

O.K.  Since she spoke at the convention, here are a couple of good
ones from Marilyn.  A new quote file, or (dare I suggest it?) an
ALT.FAN.MARILYN-QUAYLE newsgroup?

       "(Dan) really is a studious sort.  He tries to read Plato's
       _Republic_ every year."
                                         Marilyn Quayle, not revealing
                                         whether he has yet succeeded.
                                         (09/08/88).

       "Franklin Roosevelt was a lousy student.  He failed the bar
       exam seven times."
                                         Marilyn Quayle (09/08/88).
                                         FDR took the exam once, as
                                         a second-year law student,
                                         and passed.


Jeff Luck                              -STANDARD DISCLAIMER HERE-
CES Systems Office
Penn State University                  "What you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                        -Quayle to farmers, 08/25/88
From: popec@korova.uucp (Mr. Charlie)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: 1984
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:43:08 CDT
Organization: VHF void tube of the mind (713) 492-2783

I was watching, (and puking violently), Marylin and Bab's speeches here 
in Houston on the tube Wednesday.  After it was over and I was going 
through the channels to catch various commentators,  I ran across the 
evening movie on our local ABC channel, 13.  It was Orwell's 1984.
Tell me that was an accident!  The opening scene:  5 minutes of hate!
Muy appropriate!

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