From: patrick@rio-grande.is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: I told you so...
Organization: ChaneyTweakers of 77036-2409
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:45:11 GMT

On Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:29:47 GMT, chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) foamed at the mouth:

>Peter Nyikos:

>I told you so. I told you that apologizing to Patrick Humphrey for
>anything, is useless. This man can make whatever statements he wants
>to, including racist ones like "march your fat black ass down here..",
>and other remarks like "I wish you were sick and not my wife," etc.,
>and never apologize to me, and everyone accepts it. On the other hand,
>I have to apologize when I respond?

Well, a couple of things come to mind:  one, maybe you've done a lot more to
deserve having to make an apology for?  Bragging about someone else's access
problems hardly strikes me as being civilized, for instance -- and who do we
know that was doing just that?  Add to that the documented fact that you
have forged article headers, and tried to pose as "Dennis Hall", and the
average man on the street would conclude a few apologies are in order, at
the least.  Two, you insist that everyone accepted what I did?  That's a
patent lie at best.  Of course, in your world, I guess anything short of a
death threat equals acceptance, so I guess I'm not really surprised to hear
*that* from you once again.

Normally, I'd say -- put yourself in *my* shoes, kid, and check the
situation from my vantage point.  However, in your case, I'd be doing
nothing more than wasting my time, as you're hell-bent on making it obvious
that you can't begin to comprehend me.

>I fully retract any apology I have given concerning Patrick Humphrey,
>because of this b.s. letter he sent me. He's a punk, and he deserves
>any insult laid on him or his family or whatever pertains to him - he
>IS an insult to his family, so what else would be new? 

Nice little fantasy world you have constructed there, Airplane Boy -- only
trouble is, you've never been in the same state as anyone *in* my family.
I guess I should ask:  why are you so terrified of me *or* anything
associated with me?  Am I that much of a threat to your fantasy?

>And his wife is STILL an ugly old hound dog. 

As if you'll ever know -- but that's okay, because she'll be laughing at
you, too.

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>Your apology wasn't much -- but, it's a start.  Now, how about explaining how
>my sysadmins are supposed to care about you getting mail from me on Fidonet?
>They're not responsible for non-Rice computers -- and I *am* on a few local
>boards.

>Anyway, I have not much sympathy for the pickle you've gotten yourself into --
>like I said, you reap what you sow.  Take the chance to *learn* something from
>your experiences, this time.

>--PLH, outta here in about 30' to head for work


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Good job, Dennis.  You didn't fabricate any of it -- just posted it the way
I sent it to you.  (I have to talk to Greg or Howard, though -- I put that
up at InterMix at 13:54, and urchin didn't get it until almost six hours
later?  I could have typed the damn thing and carried it to hrnowl@urchin
myself -- he lives about three blocks from us -- faster than *that*.  <sigh>
Fidonet, state-of-the-art networking for the '80s...;-)

>I reap what I sow? Oh, hell, the gall of this son of a bitch. THE
>GALL. PatricKKK deserves quite a hell of a lot of reaping for the b.s.
>he's sown and no one on this net has yet to tell him, so from now on
>out, I will be totally ignoring any demands for me to apologize to
>that bastard, be they coming from Peter Nyikos, or anyone. 

Ooh, I'm crushed.  (It's not like I didn't expect you to react just like
you're doing, son.  You are precisely on schedule.)

>You aren't the ones he's making these comments about, so you have no
>business demanding I be civil with him when he is pulling this b.s. on
>me. His letter takes the cake, the pie, and the ice cream.

So, what are you going to do about it?  Keep posting your stupid bigoted
slur of me?  That'll really generate some good PR for the University...
Oh, well.  Have fun.  I know I will be.

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>Public Challenge to Chris Lyman: Go Ahead, Make My Day. 
>Prove to my sysadmins that Patrick didn't say this. I dare you.
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It'll be kind of hard to do that, don't you think, since I sent the damn
thing myself yesterday while I was at home.  Besides, you're the resident
expert on lying around here, anyway...I have a better idea:  let's see you
prove that you haven't posted your little shining example of your bigotry a
hundred times or so since August 18 last year...:-)

[you know what, deleted]

--PLH.  Yow!  I am having FUN now!
(the things you can do in GNU Emacs, with a simple "M-x yow"...:-)

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