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From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: PL-259's and ANY Coax
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 09:42:14 CDT
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier) writes:

> Just say NO!
> 
> I change all PL-259's to N type on all VHF+ equipment I own.
> 
> BMc
> 

ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve KA0VYB
From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Sexist Statement
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:12:41 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

;From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
;Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
;Subject: Re: Sexist Statement
;Date: 2 Sep 92 21:49:07 GMT
;Followup-To: alt.flame
;Lines: 18
; 
;I do not think Jon was wrong to apologize.  I think it was a very
;courteous and honorable thing to do.  The question is not whether you
;think what you say ought to offend some women.  The fact is that a
;number of women are offended by being left out as if invisible by such
;uses.  But the important point is that when they say they are offended
;it is no one's place to tell them that they shouldn't feel that way;
;their feelings are as legitimate as yours.  Having been informed of
;these feelings, your choice is whether you wish to be rude and ignore
;them, or to respect them as the honest feelings of another human
;being.  Jon has clearly taken the latter path, and more power to him.
; 
;        /JBL
; 
;(Followups redirected.)
;=
;Nets: levin@bbn.com  | "How does a mouse let me move the cursor anywhere 
;pots: (617)873-3463  |  I want?"  "What are address busses?"  "How do 
;              N1MNF  |  icons work?"              --Time-Life Books
; 

	I only have one problem with JBL's remarks. "Jon" did not
	make the subject statement---I did! Jon gets enough grief.
	He doesn't need mine. 73.

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JIM KEARMAN, KR1S                    Voice: 203-666-1541 ext 279
ARRL Assistant Technical Editor	     FAX:   203-665-7531
Author of `The DXCC Companion'	     ARRL Headquarters
Editor of `Now You're Talking!,'     225 Main Street
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From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Using Ham Equipment in Other Services
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:14:32 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

> Is it lawful to use ham equipment in other services?

With the exception of certain rare exceptions like CAP, MARS, and
RACES, no.

> 4 watts for am, it would be illegal to trans mit in CB channels with 
> a ham HF rig.  That only a type accepted cb transmitter is accepatable.

This indeed is the case.  The radio must be type accepted.

> Assuming a 2 meter rig can transmit in the Marine radio bands is it legal
> to use to for communicating with other boats? Or is another special liscense
> required(I thought I read it was). Even if a liscense is required 
> do I have to use a type accepted marine radio like I do for CB?

No, the radio must be type accepted.  A license is required for marine
use as well (even for type accepted radios).

In general, hams are the only ones who can get by with using radios
that are not type excepted (there are also real experimental licenses
as well).  In addition, you won't find a radio that is type accepted
for one of these other services and coincidentally a ham radio because
as of late, the radios must not be user settable to out of band
operation (though, a manufacturers idea of what this means is pretty
open, ICOM commercial radios for example have a magic programming
mode).

> Lastly please post the frequency for marine channel 16(emergency channel),
> since surely it would be licit to transmit here in an emergency situation
> with a 2 meter ham rig.

In an emergency, you could use spark gap if you had to.  I don't have
any idea what freq. channel 16 is though.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Subject: Re: more about ham legends
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:05:33 GMT


In article <1992Sep11.112118.15074@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary  
Coffman) writes:
> In article <Sep.10.14.16.55.1992.958@pilot.njin.net> ron@pilot.njin.net  
(Ron Natalie) writes:
> >Actually Gary, a concrete floor that is even barely moist *IS* a very
> >good conductor (whether it's a good ground or not I don't know).  I
> >don't know about batteries, but it's an important safety tip when
> >working on electical wiring.
> 
> Nothing like real numbers I always say. I went out and measured my
> dirty garage floor, bare concrete, when dry. The result was 5 Megohms
> per foot. Then I poured a cup of tap water on the floor and measured
> again, 50,000 ohms per foot. So tap water on a dirty concrete floor
> does reduce the resistance, but I still wouldn't call 50 kohms a
> *very* good conductor. It's low enough to give you a jolt if you were
> barefooted and grabbed a live 110 VAC wire, but a 12 volt battery
> could only push .00024 amps across it, hardly copper.
> 
> Gary KE4ZV
===================================================
Way to go, Gary!

tnx es 73 de Jack, K9CUN
From: CE3BUC%UCHCECVM.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Version upper 2.21 Yagimax.
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:16:32 GMT
Reply-To: <CE3BUC%UCHCECVM.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


   Sorry my english is don't well.
   Upper version of yagimax... upper 2.21.


   CE3OYW (Christian).
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:15095 rec.radio.amateur.packet:2371
From: mancus@norm.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Non-introductory books on packet?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 01:16:59 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Distribution: na
Organization: nasa-jsc


  I have been using 2m packet for a while now, and after much
experimentation have managed to figure out the basics.  I've come
across any number of books on "How to get started in packet radio",
usually spending 5 chapters explaining the history, What is a TNC,
What License Do I Need, etc.   One or two chapters will explain how
to make a local contact in painstaking detail.  Then, at the end,
there will be one paragraph on ROSE, one paragraph on Net/ROM, and
usually nothing on TCP/IP or BPQ.
  Could someone refer me to a book that explains the packet *network*
and high- and low-level protocols in detail?  So far I have seen several
people mention how to get info on the AX.25 protocol from ARRL, but
no one has mentioned anything else.  I really want a *single source*
for all this information, rather than having to build a whole library
of one-chapter-of-this-book, one-chapter-of-that-book.  For example,
I have never even figured out what all the columns of information
returned from a "routes" command on a Net/ROM site mean. A decent
reference that skips the introductory blather would be welcome.

-- 
| Keith Mancus    <mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov>                         |
|                 N5WVR                                                  |
|  "If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I'd rent out Texas and live       |
|  in Hell." -General Sheridan                                           |
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Joe J Retzer)
Subject: Yaesu Parts
Originator: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: retzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:57:24 GMT

Does anyone know where I might find a mobile mounting bracket for an
old Yaesu Memorizer? (Part MMB5) Many thanks and 73,

			   Joe Retzer N9QXL
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Subject: Re: Number 6 washer (was New Topic)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:51:23 GMT


In article <"11-Sep-92..7:55:44.PDT".*.Hugh_E._Wells.El_Segundo@Xerox.com>  
Hugh_E._Wells.El_Segundo@xerox.COM writes:
> Steve, W3GRG, brought up an interesting subject regarding washers.
> 
> I would like to relate one that had us baffled for some time that  
involved star
> washers.  Yes, the answer may be obvious, but is it!  In one of our  
projects
> where we were grounding VHF circuit boards to metal bosses on castings,  
we
> experienced intermittant grounding.  The circuit would occasionally  
oscillate
> as if the ground was missing.  In the original design, a star washer was  
used
> under the head of a screw to bite into the plated pad on the top of the  
board.
> Plated thru-holes were used to make a connection to the plated grounding  
pad on
> the bottom side of the board. The assembly was pressed against a flat  
casting
> boss to achieve a casting ground.
> 
> The bottom line is that when the star washer was removed, the  
intermittant
> condition cleared up permanently.   We theorized that the impedance of  
the star
> washer connection was higher than the screw head directly against the  
plated
> pad.
> 
> 73
> 
> Hugh,   W6WTU

===========================
I heard of this happening once before.  It turns out the washers had sat  
for a short time in a warehouse on a concrete floor.  Nuff sed.

tnx es 73 de Jack, K9CUN
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 50/144 dual bander. WAS: American manufacturers of ham gear.
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:40:46 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

>An FM-only 6m/2m dual-bander is a nice idea, but I doubt that it
>would sell.  6m FM is not popular for a reason: the range is
>lower and the noise is higher than on 2m.

Let me flame my own post!

When I say that the range is greater on 2m, what I mean is that
the practical range is greater for space wave/ground wave
and tropo.   Antenna gain is usually higher on two, noise is lower
on two, and TVI is less of a problem on two than on six.   Channel
2 TV is active is this area, so low power on 6m is basically a requirement.
VCRs especially tend to cause TVI problems.

I have found that for the same power with a ground plane 
antenna, you get better range on 6m than on 2m.  However, it is 
easier to run higher power and higher antenna gain on 2m.

I certainly did not mean to flame 6m.  I am a big fan of that
band.  I wish it were more utilized.

73 DE KK6MY

-- 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: F***ed up DJ's
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:44:29 GMT

obrien@Aero.org (Michael O'Brien) writes:

>In article <pschleck.716492742@cwis>, pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) writes:
>|> To the foul-mouthed DJ's from a North Carolina college radio station:
>|> 
>|> So, if you really want some assistance, how about rephrasing your
>|> request in a form presentable to polite company?

>Speak for yourself.  I'm not conservative, I don't object to the language
>in this newsgroup, and you don't speak for me.

I never said I did.  Just expressing an opinion.  You don't speak for me
either.

Informal E-mail straw poll:  1 message of support, none in opposition

73, Paul, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pitonyak@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pitonyak)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack selling hamgear
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:12:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.223336.20891@abo.fi> MSUORANTA@finabo.abo.fi (Mika Suoranta Tkkk) writes:

>	I am glad to hear that. Here in Europe most ham radio stores
>	would also ask for your license, or at least want to see your
>	ID and have a look at the newest callbook. The same apply to any
>	ham selling used gear to strangers. There are too many people
>	using ham rigs on 27MHz or whatever freq they please and run their
>	pirate stations.  

I purchased my ICOM-735 before I had my license.  I also did not
transmit until after I did.  I wanted to get a start on tuning in
and listening.  IF I had been refused a purchase I would probably
never have gone back.    I mean gosh golly, what if say I wanted 
to purchase that new ham radio for my good buddy (ok, so assume
that I was rich and really liked this person) or spouse and 
wanted to purchase them a gift etc.....

Forcing a ticket before purchase seems undully restrictive although
warnings as to proper use and such is definitely a good thing.

IF there are lots and lots or illegal radio operators why 
don't the regular HAMS sniff them out and turn them in?
<note, serious question above>

andy N8QKR


From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:12:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Flagpole Antennas
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kip Ingram) writes:

>...  I'd like to conceal a commercial vertical like the DX88 inside
>a flagpole; has anyone done this?  

It would have to be a non-metallic flagpole, of course.

Why not use a metal flag pole and gamma match it?  Use the gamma rod
as a tie point for the flag-rope, and your neighbors will never
know the difference.

AL N1AL

Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:15459 misc.books.technical:1435
From: jpw@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,misc.books.technical
Subject: phone line voltages, etc
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:12:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA


I was wondering if anyone could help me out with some information, or
tell me where I could find out:

I would like to build my own telephone/answering machine, and I was wondering
how to get the info to power the thing from the phone lines. Does anyone
know how this works?

If I'm posting to the wrong groups, Id appreciate it if you could point me
in the right direction. (Perhaps there should be a rec.design.circuits or
something...)

Thanks,
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: DXCC Application Rules ?
Keywords: DXCC
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:42:39 GMT

dearnshaw@worldbank.org writes:

>If anyone (in particular, the League) could clarify this, I'd appreciate it.

>Thanks... Darrell (NR3Y)

E-mail to dxcc@arrl.org might answer some of your questions.  Be sure to
give them a US Mail address as they might reply in paper.

73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: alan@bambam.es.com (Alan Brubaker)
Subject: Re: CW Speed Contests?
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:08:02 GMT

CW contests are still alive and well. We had both a CW receiving
contest and a "QLF" (sending CW with your left foot) contest at
the Rocky Mountain Division ARRL convention/WIMU (Wyoming, Idaho,
Montana, Utah) hamfest a few weeks ago. I participated in both
contests and won neither. The winner of the CW receiving contest
was W7KF from Wyoming, who was declared the winner at just under
30 WPM. At 30 WPM you must copy 150 consecutive characters for
one minute of solid copy; W7KF had 147 or 148 consecutive
characters, as I understand it. There were about 10 participants,
and we all made it to the 30 WPM level. We were all using pencil
or pen and paper. Many of us can copy CW faster than 30 WPM, so
the problem really becomes how to get it down on paper accurately
and legibly. It is not easy. W7KF won a new Bencher Paddle - of
course.

The QLF contest was interesting. K7RJ of Utah won, just edging
out a young guy (I do not remember his name or call) who sent
some of the best 10 WPM CW that I have ever heard with his left
foot! I thought that he should have won instead of K7RJ, but I
was not one of the judges. The judging criteria was accuracy
and speed - how many characters could you send in 1.5 minutes.
There were also about 10 entrants in the QLF contest. You had
your choice of a straight key or a keyer with a paddle made
out of a rubber spatula! I do not know what the prize was.
-- 
Alan Brubaker, K6XO      |~~|_  "Pumps have handles, Hams have names;
<IYF disclaimer>         | *  |mine's Lee, what's yours?" - Lee Wical,
Internet: alan@dsd.es.com|____|KH6BZF, the Bloomin' Zipper Flipper.
From: rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: good HF rigs
Keywords: TS-850S
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:36:04 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <20229@drutx.ATT.COM> paul@drutx.ATT.COM (AndersonPE) writes:
>I purchased a Kenwood TS-850S with built in antenna tuner a little
>over a year ago and I love it. The receiver is great and I get nothing
> a 'good service' story deleted

I too have a Kenwood TS850s that I purchased a year ago and love it. 
Like the QST review said "best CW rig in any price class" (I'm sure
they were talking only about Amateur Radio grade equipment.).  Some of
its special cw features are:
 *  cw receive offset select.  I am not talking about RIT but the basic 
    offset that produces the characteristic cw beat tone. Changing the 
    offset has has the effect of changing the receive pitch without 
    changing zero beat freq.  This used to be trivial when there was 
    a separate BFO control and became difficult with the digital rigs 
    that had a fixed offset of 800 or 750Hz.
 *  can change the sign of the offset by hitting the REV button.  This allows
    the receiver to offset above or below the zero beat freq.  A great qrm
    fighting tool.  

Add to that, cascaded and independently selectable crystal filters in two ifs,
and dual slope tuning and it makes for a nice cw rig.  BTW, it has an option
that lets the 850 store three 50 character cw messages (any speed that can 
be set using the internal keyer) and three audio messages of 16, 8 and 8 secs
(these times can be doubled by halving the digital sampling rate.  This is 
selectable indepedently for each memory.)  These messages can be strung 
together in one transmission.

Apart from bells and whistles, its receiver is exceptional.  QST reviews
apart, I did a non-scietific head to head test with my friend's new
ICOM 765 and his Drake TR7.  We did this at my friends shack and used an
antenna switcher to switch the same antenna between rigs.  In terms of 
pure RF performance, the Kenwood and the Icom blew the knobs of the 
Drake (15-20 yrs of technological difference is a lot).  We
could find no discernible difference in basic radio performance 
between the Kenwood 850 and the Icon 765 in a full weekend day of 
operating. 

The 850 does have its flaws.
- there is no rit/xit clear button.  While I generally view this as a 
  disadvantage, the implementation does have its advantages in a round
  table in being able to transfer the value between RIT and XIT.  This
  makes it easier to answer a station back exactly at the listening frequency.
- The noise blanker is not as effective as that in the Icom 740 that
  I owned previously.
- While the filters for each IF can be selected independently, the filter
  select button for each IF cycles through all the choices.  

Rajiv                                 
aa9ch    
Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu
Phone:   None. Only CW.
From: abfhb@stdvax.DNET.NASA.GOV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: STS-47 Keplerian Set JSC-008
Date: 14 Sep 1992 11:52:05 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

SB SAREX@AMSAT $STS-47-006
STS-47 Keplerian Set JSC-008

Enclosed is the latest Keplerian data for STS-47 as
generated by JSC ARC member Gil Carman, WA5NOM.

STS-47 element set JSC-008 (orbit 34)

STS-47
1 22120U 92 61  A 92258.67230773  .00130000  00000-0  17400-3 0    86
2 22120  56.9974  98.0218 0008453 286.4077  73.6043 15.89326760   348

Satellite: STS-47
Catalog number: 22120
Epoch time:      92258.67230773 =====> (14 SEP 92   16:08:07.38 UTC)
Element set:     JSC-008
Inclination:       56.9974 deg
RA of node:        98.0218 deg          Space Shuttle Flight STS-47
Eccentricity:     .0008453                SGP4 Keplerian Elements
Arg of perigee:   286.4077 deg         from NASA flight Day 3 vector
Mean anomaly:      73.6043 deg
Mean motion:   15.89326760 rev/day         W5RRR  -  G. L. Carman
Decay rate:    1.30000e-03 rev/day*2     NASA  Johnson Space Center
Epoch rev:              34

Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, AMSAT V.P. for Manned Space Programs
E-mail         ka3hdo@amsat.org
Alt E-Mail     EAST::"abfhb@stdvax.gsfc.nasa.gov"
/EX
From: markz@ssc.wa.com (Mark Zenier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood Financial Health?
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:29:50 GMT
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
: All of the postings concerning Kenwood's execrable reputation for
: service made me wonder what the company's financial health is.
: My experience is that poor service often reflects a bad financial
: situation.

Some comments about the situation from an acquaintance of a friend 
of an ex-Kenwood tech.

1. Kenwood has combined the stereo and radio service departments.

2. For some models, the service is subcontracted.  They will queue
up a load and then ship them to the shop that actually does the work.
In one case this means shipping the stuff to New York from So. Cal.
(and back ?).

Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com