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From:         J.Baird@ONO.LINCOLN.AC.NZ
Subject:      Re: volume copy and trustees

>From: Lalot <MAINT%FRAIX11.BITNET@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
>
>Who find the right solution to copy a volume on another one.
>
>We have created a new volume.
>then ncopy /s/e oldvol newvol
>then rename oldvol temp
>then rename newvol oldvol.
>
>There is no more trustees. So what can we do?.

Get a copy of jrbut200.zip from Splicer, netlab2.usu.edu or risc.ua.edu.
Use the program named trstlist. Something like:

trstlist temp: /ddt/b >trustees.bat

will list every directory and file trustee on the volume, and write them to
trustees.bat as GRANT commands. Use your favourite editor to change every
occurance of temp: to oldvol: (you should be able to do this in a single
command). Execute trustees.bat and your trustee assignments will be restored.
Check trstlist's in-built help - its a while since I used it for this, and
the above command may not be complete.

Its on my project list to write a NETCOPY utility which will replicate trustees,
all file attributes and ownership on the copied files.

>Using ncopy on 200 Meg it stops  with something like: no more file handles...
>Strange?

I've found ncopy to be unreliable for this sort of thing. Use xcopy or any
other utility which copy empty directories as well as those with files.

John
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From: P.MANTOCK@LSHTM.AC.UK (Peter Mantock)
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Subject: Netware for Mac error on console ?
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:41:35 GMT
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Just installed netware for mac ver 3.01.

This is the error I'm getting on the server console :-

0.0.0 ATALK ERROR : RTMP INPUT - MISMATCHED RANGE NUMBERS :LOCAL=1000-
1002: 2 REPORTED ON PORT 1

This is my config for the server and mac stuff.

Model 80 server, 300mb hardisk, sys vol 80 mb with mac namespace, 8mb
Ram and Novell 3.11 with one 3com 3c523.

My autoexec.ncf

file server name DEVEL1
ipx internal net EDD
load 3c523 slot= 6 frame=ETHERNET_II name=etalk1
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^frame type for Appletalk Phase 1
bind IPX to 3c523 net=1
mount all
load remote password
load rspx
load appletlk -z net=50010
load 3c523 slot=6 frame=ETHERNET_SNAP name=etalk2
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
bind applelk etalk1 net=10 (I also tried net=1 with same result)
                     ^^^^^^
bind appletlk etalk2 net=1000-1002
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^Appletalk Phase 2 range of net no.s
load afp
load atps

My atzones.cfg file :-

net=50010 zone={"lshtm"}
net=1000-1002 zone={"lshtm"}
"lshtm"
{
net=1 zone={"lshtm"}


Thanks in advance.







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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:00:13 EST
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From:         "J. Pilant" <pilant@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Data Compression NLM

Rick <GARDNER@MC.BITNET> writes:
>Ooops.  I didn't make myself quite clear..  What I'm looking for is something
>a little more like PKZIP and less like Stacker.
>
>Our situation: We're trying to remotely back up multiple sites across 56KB
>lines.  And some of the large database files are over 45 MB, which take about
>3 hours to transfer over the line.  BUT, when we ZIP them up, they shrink to
>about 5 meg.

I recall reading of a MNP style ethernet packet compressor.  This should help
in the above situation.  Sorry, I have no details.  I forget when I read it
in this list (it WAS this list).

/jeff
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Subject: Re: No Math - 486SX or 486DX
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:55:01 -0500

In article <00966EF8.BDAA5580.29636@lewis.umt.edu>, lw_flw@LEWIS.UMT.EDU writes:
> It's my understanding that if I'm not using mathematical computations muchm,
> I don't need a 486DX.  Would any of the above software counsel against
> a 486SX?

In a protected-mode application with little or no floating-point (such as a
NetWare server) I'd take a 386DX over a 486SX of equal clock speed.  The 486
does require fewer clocks to execute some instructions, but the DX requires
half as many bus cycles to get data on/off the chip.  (Okay, I've
oversimplified a bit, but my 386DX-12 PS/2-70 feels much quicker than SX
systems with higher clock rates.)

> Present setup: 386 server, 9 workstations, Novell 3.11
> Potential growth to: 50 or 100 workstations

We run nearly 100 workstations off a single PS/2-80 without working up a sweat.
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:34:27 CST
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From:         Ed Lomax <U60008@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Good books for a new admin

Hello everyone,

Last week I was informed that, effective immediately, I was the new
administrator for the department LAN which includes a CD-ROM (Multi-
platter) server. As you can imagine, I have been scrambling to get
a handle on the elements of LANS and their effective administration.

A subscriber to another BITNET listserv (CDROMLAN@IDBSU) suggested I
try this list.

My questions are the following:

Can anyone suggest a few good books on learning and using Netware?
(we're using version 3.11 for 20 users)

Can anyone also suggest a better book on LANS: hardware specific?

(In both cases, we're not talking "rocket science". However, I have
been known to hang out at launch pads.)

What is the title of the best INEXPENSIVE (cheap) newsletter or
magazine covering LANs and/or Novell Netware?

Is anyone aware of low cost educational programs for Netware
administration in the Chicago area?

Any and all information supplied will be greatly appreciated.

Please respond to me directly. I can summarize my findings for
the list if there is sufficient interest.

Thanks.

Ed Lomax
Information Services Librarian
University of Illinois at Chicago
Library of the Health Sciences
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From:         Gary Flynn <ACS_GARY@JMUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Suppress banner on Flex-IP..How?

I want to suppress the banner on unix print jobs to the Netware
queues. There is a fix for the NFS product that allows a
-J/nb option. Does anyone know if this fix was migrated into
Flex-IP or of another way of suppressing the banner page?

Gary Flynn
James Madison University
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From: dhoward@novell.com (Dirk W. Howard)
Subject: Re: FLAG.EXE problem -- A bug or a feature?
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:18:12 GMT

In article <93025.143827MIKEP@UCF1VM.BITNET> Mike Potaczala <MIKEP@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:38:27 EST
>From: Mike Potaczala <MIKEP@UCF1VM.BITNET>
>Subject: FLAG.EXE problem -- A bug or a feature?
>
>  I ran into something with novell's FLAG.EXE, and I wanted to make sure
>it just isn't me.  The 'problem' is that if I have a file whose name uses
>all 8 characters for the name and 3 for the extention, FLAG.EXE will ignore
>the parameter to flag the file Executible only.  It seems to be willing to
>do any other of the attributes to the file.  And it doesn't seem to be that
>the file system for the file I am trying to put the X attribute on is
>corrupted, because if I rename it to have a shorter name, FLAG will put on
>the X attribute.  I'm I just floating in the Twilite Zone or has this
>happened to other people?
>
>
>Michael Potaczala
> --KC4NUS    "Have computer .. will BITNET/INTERNET/ARCNET/ETHERNET/PACKET..."
>
>MIKEP@UCF1VM.BITNET                    |  University of Central Florida
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>mikep@chinchilla.ir.ucf.edu            |    Instruction & Research Support
>                                       |     LAN Support Staff
>===============================================================================
>* My opinions are my own! And probably do NOT represent the opinions of the
>                          orginazation for which I work.
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I have not seen this problem before.  First check to see that you are trying 
to flag as eXecute only, only .COM or .EXE files.  You cannot flag any other 
file extension.  If you are trying to flag valid files as eXecute only, then 
find out what version of IPX and shell your are running (NVER) and what 
version of FLAG.EXE you are running (VERSION FLAG).  With this info we can 
see if we can duplicate the problem and determine what the problem is.

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From:         Info Novell UK <novell@CBMUK.UK.SO.COMMODORE.COM>
Subject:      Do trustee rights cascade?

I used to think that trustee rights always cascaded downwards in the directory
structure. If more trustee rights were added, then my effective rights was an
AND between the previous rights, and the new rights.
Now I find that seeting more rights in a subdirectory basically puts a stop to
what I previously had. Let me illustrate:

Here's how I thought it worked:
SYS:APPS   [ R    F ]   effective rights [ R   F ]
SYS:APPS/LOTUS  [  CE  ] effective rights [ RCEF]

This is what really happens:
SYS:APPS        [ R  F ]  effective rights [ R  F ]
SYS:APPS/LOTUS  [  CE  ]  effective rights [  CE  ]

But if I'm a member of a group which has been assigned rights to APPS, but
I as an individual user am assigned "new" rights in APPS/LOTUS, then it does
work as in my previous example.
Is this really the way it should work, or is there a patch that I have
forgotten to load? :-)

Wouldn't it be more consistent if it worked the same way no matter whether
the rights had been assigned to a group or a user?
I understand the thinking behind it, but as the situation stands, trustee
rights work one way when assigned to a group, and another way when
assigned to a user...

Regards,
Bjorn
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From:         "Bob.Cowling" <23130MGR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      What does SPEED rating really me

Sounds like you may be hitting a 'cement ceiling' of the ethernet cards that
you are using and the level of traffic on the net you are on.  The cards will
only work as fast as they will work.

Or am I wrong...
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:41:51 MST
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From:         lw_flw@LEWIS.UMT.EDU
Subject:      No Math - 486SX or 486DX

Is there any reason to purchase a 486DX for a server
if all we use are:
WordPerfect 5.1
Various communications software programs (Kermit, Procomm, Lexis, Westlaw etc)
Text tools such as grammar checkers software, typing tutor, etc.
Various student exercises (all text based)
Folio Views

We will never crunch numbers, but might in future use these:
Windows
CD-Rom software such as SCSI Express with multiple CD Rom drives
Student exercises containing video images
ZyIndex
Paradox or other database
Spreadsheets

It's my understanding that if I'm not using mathematical computations muchm,
I don't need a 486DX.  Would any of the above software counsel against
a 486SX?

Present setup: 386 server, 9 workstations, Novell 3.11
Potential growth to: 50 or 100 workstations
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From:         Brad Clements <bkc@MURKWORKS.COM>
Subject:      Re: tcp/ip NLM
              25 Jan 93 23:42:50 EST." <9301260453.AA08250@uu.psi.com>

Joseph says...

> I am interested in being able to telnet/ftp into our Novell file server.
> If I load the NLM, will I in turn have a virtural terminal so to speak
> on my network?  Will I be able to access all aspects of the network as
> if I were logged in directly from my PC which is attached to the network?

Dave says ...

To my knowledge, it isn't possible to 'telnet' to a Netware file server,
and obtain an interactive session.  With NFS loaded, you CAN telnet to
the server to perform a remote console (only from an X-Windows compatible
system).

--------------------

And I say:

It is possible to telnet into a Netware server.  The MPR 2.0 package,
Flex-IP and Netware NFS all contain telnet support of one kind or
another.  Flex-IP and Netware NFS both use telnet to initiate an
Xconsole session.  MPR 2.0, I believe, does support a full telnet
session which gives you Rconsole like features for dumb tty's.

MurkWorks is also working on a Telnet Daemon NLM for Netware 386.
Ours goes a little further than Novell's in terms of features, but
basically does the same thing : remote control of the file server console
via Telnet over TCP (except that we don't do X-Windows)

Now the latest LanWorkPlace(Group) for DOS 4.1 includes a nifty little
utility called XPC. This program allows you to telnet into your
PC and control it remotely from a vt100, vt220 OR X-Server. A nice
piece of work (can you tell I like it a lot!).

There is also a program called Everywhere Access that supports a similar
kind of process (no X support though) and includes its own TCP stack.
Contact Supro Network Software Inc.  (info@snsi.com I think)


MurkWorks is taking a different approach right now: We're adding Telnet
support to the Netware Access Server (via NW386 and perhaps LWP) AND
we're adding telnet support to some of the common PC Based BBS systems, so
you'll be able to telnet into a PC Based BBS! Very hot stuff there!


Brad Clements, CCP             bkc@murkworks.com               (315)265-4717
NLMs Galore - free demos: ftp.msen.com:pub/vendor/murkworks    (315)268-9812 Fax

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Subject:      RE: (CUH) Still looking for MOSAIC.

Jorge,

I don't know the product , but I have a number for a company called Insight
in the U.K.    The U.K. phone number is   993-812730   (you'll have to check
the international code to get you to the U.K., I don't normally phone from
outside the U.K. so I can't think of it for the moment !)

I hope this is the company you're looking for...

Good Luck

Anne
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From:         Stephen McCloud <CCSDM@AMBER.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Sitelock 3.3

Joe D.,

Thank you for your reply and all the help you've been on the Novell
list. We've been using SLOCK and SUNLOCK because of the problems with
the Sitelock TSR causing problems. But it looks like we'll have to
do something to protect Windows applications so I'm hoping 3.3 TSRs
work and don't cause any conflicts. Can you briefly describe how
the following Brightwork advertisement works?

    A special wrapping feature prevents users from taking software
    from the network and using it off of the network.

Making .EXE execute only is not a very good solution for us. Does the
above really work?


Stephen McCloud                       ccsdm@amber.indstate.edu
Computing Services and Facilities
Indiana State University
Terre Haute IN 47809                            (812) 237-3793
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sitelock 3.3

>Does anyone have the 3.3 release of Sitelock? We are considering
>upgrading because the literature says:
>
>    User has the option to use the swatcher
>    TSR or to meter and virus protect files
>    with a non-TSR method.
>
>Does this mean I can protect Windows applications and DOS
>applications without a TSR? Does the TSR method or not-TSR method work
>(I mean really work without aborting a few applications) or are there
>still problems as previously discussed on this list?
>
>I hate to get suckered into another Sitelock upgrade that has
>problems.
>
>Stephen McCloud                       ccsdm@amber.indstate.edu
>Computing Services and Facilities
>Indiana State University
>Terre Haute IN 47809                            (812) 237-3793
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        Non-TSR means the laughable .bat method. About the only thing I
can point a finger at this time is a possible (unproven yet) interaction
with Brief, the programmer's editor, Borland issue. Sitelock works ok with
Windows 3.1.
        Joe D.
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From:         Karen Keys <kkeys@GALILEO.STMARYS-CA.EDU>
Subject:      Bridge/Router: Summary

Thanks to all who replied to my question about using Novell's bridging
capabilities on a dedicated workstation.

Summary:

A Netware 3.11 server will route IP/IPX etc with TCPIP loaded (I can't do
that because my servers are *nowhere* near the wiring closet). Mixed
reviews about the performance degradation on a server.

Generating a Novell router/bridge to run on a standalone PC will not route
IP, only IPX (not recommended anyway).

Obviously, I have to go with a little box with blinking lights.

Thanks again for your help.

Karen
kkeys@galileo.stmarys-ca.edu
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From:         Mike Neate <mneate@AUNIX.FULLERTON.EDU>
Subject:      macs and novell

Fellow Netware 3.11 users,


This inquiry is directed towards everyone with experience
using Netware for the Macs.

We are planning to build a 10base2 network with 4 or 5
Mac IIx's 40mb hd/8mb ram/sys7.0 and 25 386's to a 486
file server with a 340mb hd.

The grandiose question of the hour is whether or not it is
feasible to store this Mac software set (Autocad, Adobe
Illustrator, Quark Express, PageMaker, MsWord,
WordPerfect, PhotoShop, FreeHand) on the NetWare server
hard disk and to run these apps from the server hard
disk, thus AVOID HAVING TO BUY BIGGER MAC HARD DRIVES FOR
THE MACS?

Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Michael Neate
Instructional Computing
Fullerton College        Tel  (714)992-7348
321 E. Chapman           Fax  (714)447-4097
Fullerton, Ca. 92632     Email  mneate@aunix.fullerton.edu
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From:         postlethwaite m <p0070133@OXFORD-POLY.AC.UK>
Subject:      running DataCad/Spirit on NW3.11 with diskles workstations

Having decided to go with Spirit AEC (a.k.a.  DataCad in the US) our
Architecture School is wondering if anybody else runs this CAD package
on a Nw3.11 network from (hard) diskless machines. Our local supplier
suggests that it is not advisable to run Spirit with this setup. However
we don't want the extra workload of having to clean up local disks (this
will be a student lab). The reason given against the diskless setup is that
network traffic for dongle checking and temp files would significantly
increase network traffic. I'd like to know if anybody else is running
Spirit with a similar setup, and basically is it workable?


Thanks in advance

Mark Postlethwaite
mp@oxpoly.ac.uk
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