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From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: INVASION!!!
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 07:34:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Some more terrifying happenings to tell you...
Keywords: aliens,clones,invasion,stollman


Well, I just found out something from Joan today that happened while she
was visiting her niece in San Bernadino a few months ago.  It turns out
that there was a store a few blocks away from her niece's apartment, which
had two phones where she called me from at my dad's store.  She said when
she called the store, the phone next to her started ringing, just like I
have had happen to me when I called her and our pharmacy from other
places.  The only difference is that when she came back to call me the
next day, the place was GONE!!  All boarded up and the two pay phones were
ripped out of the wall!!  She said there was NOTHING to indicate that the
place was going out of business, but it doesn't surprise me in the least,
cause that is part of what has been happening around me these last ten
years.  

When I called up my mom in LA from a pay phone in Tallahassee one time,
the next day we went back to make another call and the phone receiver had
been sliced neatly in two!  Joan couldn't believe it, but I could.  I know
these bastards well, too well!!  


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From: bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: VCR alert:  Unsolved Mysteries - 16Sep92
Summary: Unsolved Mysteries...
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:33:49 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <1992Sep14.130904.21349@csc.ti.com>, alanj@dadd.ti.com (Alan Jones) writes:
> I'm pretty sure I heard on a commercial last night that the season premier
> of "Unsolved Mysteries" will be on this Wednesday, 16Sep92, and will include

I can confirm this.. I saw the commerical too, and it looks to be a real        interesting show.  I am definately going to tape it..

 
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
From: bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm)
Subject: CATS FROM OUTER SPACE!
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:00:40 GMT

Recently i viewed a walt disney movie called THE CAT FROM OUTER SPACE.
I heard from a friend that this was a TRUE story, found out about by
walt disney from sources, so maybe next time you see a cat, it might
be an alien visitor.. hmmmm... meow
From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Where Can You Get A Good Regressionist These Days?
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:01:02 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - <ParaNet(sm) , Arvada CO


 > Does anyone know how one might go about trying to track down a good
 > hypnotic
 > regressionist in one's area?  I have a friend that recently experienced
 > a
 > classic case of missing time, and we'd like to investigate it.  I am in
 > the
 > Cleveland area.
 >
 > If no one specializes in abduction regressions here, how would one go
 > about
 > looking for a "standard" hypnotist who might be able to do the job?
 > What kind
 > of credentials should a reputable hypnotist have?
 >
 > Any suggestions are much appreciated.

Talk to Dale Wedge who is on the Cleveland Freenet.  Dale is a long-time 
investigator whom I am sure could put you on the right track.

Mike

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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Keywords: aliens,invasion,stollman
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <xxmntpb.garys@netcom.com>, garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes...
>john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes:
> 
>>In article <9flnsvk.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
>, I didn't know NOTHING
>about clones or the like.  I only knew that the CIA or the evil people who
>have been following me around the country for years were trying to destroy
>my life!

Now let me get this straight.
You say that you had knowledge of clones at that time.
You may be clone just to see if anyone would believe it, and then
replace them with clones.  They tried that with me the other day, 
but I threw mine in a vat of molten metal.


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From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic
Subject: FILE: Roswell - FBI Memo
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:06:43 GMT
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL


*** Forwarded from the Alabama (BAMA - Odyssey ) UFO Echo ***

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(3518)  Sun 13 Sep 92 17:50
By: John Powell
To: All
Re: Roswell/FBI Memo
St:
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@PID: QE 2.75+
[The following is a teletype message from the Dallas, TX, FBI office to
the Cincinati, OH, FBI office regarding the event at Roswell.  The "xx"
means it was scratched out, "??" means I couldn't read it.  The
following material is from: _The Roswell Report: A Historical
Perspective_, George M. Eberhart editor, 1991 the J. Allen Hynek Center
for UFO Studies. ISBN 0-929343-59-X.]

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FBI DALLAS              7-8-47          6-17 PM

DIRECTOR AND SAC, CINCINNATI            URGENT

FLYING DISC, INFORMATION CONCERNING.   MAJOR CURTAN, HEADQUARTERS

EIGHTH AIR FORCE, TELEPHONICALLY ADVISED THIS OFFICE THAT AN OBJECT

PURPORTING TO BE A FLYING DISC WAS RE COVERED NEAR ROSWELL, NEW

MEXICO, THIS DATE.   THE DISC IS HEXAGONAL IN SHAPE AND WAS SUSPENDED

FROM A BALLON BY A CABLE, WHICH BALLON WAS APPROXIMATELY TWENTY

FEET IN DIAMETER.   MAJOR CURTAN FURTHER ADVISED THAT THE OBJECT FOUND

RESEMBLES A HIGH ALTITUDE WEATHER BALLOON WITH A RADAR

REFLECTOR, BUT THAT TELEPHONIC CONVERSATION BETWEEN THEIR OFFICE

AND WRIGHT FIELD HAD NOT xxxxxxxxxx BORNE OUT THIS BELIEF.   DISC AND

BALLOON BEING TRANSPORTED TO WRIGHT FIELD BY SPECIAL PLANE FOR EXAMIN

INFORMATION PROVIDED THIS OFFICE BECAUSE OF NATIONAL INTEREST IN CASE

xxxx AND FACT THAT NATIONAL BROADCASTING COMPANY, ASSOCIATED PRESS, A

OTHERS ATTEMPTING TO BREAK STORY OF LOCATION OF DISC TODAY.   MAJOR

CURTAN ADVISED WOULD REQUEST WRIGHT FIELD TO ADVISE CINCINNATI

OFFICE RESULTS OF EXAMINATION.  NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION BEING

CONDUCTED.

        WYLY

END

CXXXX ACK IN ORDER

WA  ?? FBI CI MJW

BPI  HS

S-32 PM O

O-22 PM OM FBI WASH DC   VH

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Don


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From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: --> NEW CONSPIRACY EVIDENCE <--
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:05:09 GMT
Organization: GRASP Lab



In article <lb2126INNbb2@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, kathieg@tinkerbell.EBay.Sun.COM (Good good good good vibrations) writes:
> 
> Hello to all, I am new to the alias, but here goes.
> 
> Has anyone out there heard or read about the Realiens?  I have bought about 3

Well, I think you're talking about the Raeliens, who claims we are an experiment
set up by some aliens. 
Those guys are very well known in Europe, as they propagate such nice ideas
as eugenism (selection by killing the defective new-born) and other "chosen people"
stuff. There are also claims of group sex involving children.
The raelien symbol is a superposition of the judaic star and the Nazi cross,
which is, to my opinion, a VERY bad joke.


Beware.

JM.

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: rau@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Drau)
Subject: TESTING
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:35:17 GMT

Ignore this.  This is not a transmission from Mars.  I am human.  Really.


Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: INVASION!!!
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 17:07:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: You think this is some kind of a JOKE??!!
Keywords: aliens,clones,invasion,stollman


Some people on here still think I am kidding around or something!  Listen,
over 7 YEARS ago, when this all started, I went to Longo Totota in El
Monte, Calif. here to haev my car fixed.  I used one of the phones that
were on the salesman's desks to call my parents store, without anyone's
permission.  About two seconds after my mom answered the phone, EVERY
SINGLE PHONE in the dealership started ringing at the same time, one ring,
then died.  The salesmen couldn't pick them up fast enough, and were
asking each other what the HELL was going on.  I didn't have to ask.  It
has happened to me before.  When I went to USC-ISI, the computer site in
Marina Del Rey on the Arpanet, where I spent two years, day and night, in
1977-79, in 1986, and made a call from Rick Shiffman's office (my mentor
in the world of the Arpanet) to the pharmacy, EVERY single phone started
ringing, then stopped.

When I called Joan two months ago from a pay phone at UCLA, the pay phone
next to me started ringing.  I picked it up, and a guy started talking
Spanish at a fast clip.  He obviously had gotten connected to the wrong
number somehow.  This was NOT an unrelated incident, I'm afraid!  Every
time I go to a pay phone here in LA, the pay phones next to me all start
ringing when I call the store.  Also, there is some kind of SERIOUS
interference when you try to call information.  When I call from a pay
phone, I mean.  When I call from MY phone, I hear a recorded voice of an
operator, and then a DIFFERENT operator takes over!!  It is time to get
out the guns, I'm afraid.  And I don't even believe in the wretched things!


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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: The aliens have landed
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:12:16 GMT

And all film and video cameras in the area have mysteriously stopped
working. :-)

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From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Subject: Re: --> NEW CONSPIRACY EVIDENCE <--
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:00:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <lb2126INNbb2@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, kathieg@tinkerbell.EBay.Sun.COM writes...
> 
>Hello to all, I am new to the alias, but here goes.
> 
>Has anyone out there heard or read about the Realiens?  I have bought about 3
>of their books, and they talk about how we were an experiment in life, and how
>the scientist who created us, got to the point where they were worried we would
>kill them, so they did things, like flood the earth, (Noah's Arc) etc.  You know
>the bible stories.  
> 
>Anyway, I read in the Enquire the other day, an artical about how big the 
>Realien cult was getting.  They said that the Realiens were starting to set
>up a goverment in Israel, and the coming of Christ will be in the year 2000
>when he will be the head of this government.
> 
>Please let me know if anyone else has heard or read of them.
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>Kathie Greenslade
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Kathie,
  Beware of magazines like the Inquirer, etc. A couple of points on the above.
As the year 2000 approaches look for the emergence of *many* cults. There are
going to be so many different and various groups each proclaiming itself to
have the 'truth' that just about anyone's needs to feel secure will be met.
  In your paragraph on the year 2000 and the return of Christ this would seem
to imply that Christ is just an 'alien'. So many people latch onto the year 2000
that they forget many religions belief systems predate Christianities by a large
number of years.
  Besides, any intelligent race capable of creating another one from essentially
nothing would have the capability of removing its' 'creation' without a great
deal of difficulty. Floods, plagues and such would not be needed and would require
a large amount of resources to enable. For a sad example just look at what the
NAZI's did to the Jewish and ethnic populations of Europe hardly 50 years ago. If
whatever entities created us in your context wanted us removed it wouldn't have
taken very much work on their part in that day and age.
							Jim
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good)
Subject: Alien appearance and Christs return
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:06:50 GMT


With all the recent sightings of the 'virgin' Mary, and a growing
number of people starting to believe that 'Christ' may be returning
soon.. could this tie into the supposed alien appearances that 
may start happening in the mid-to-late 90's??

Maybe these little guys know of the christian religion and can use
an advanced for of holigraphy to display these 'images' of Mary.
With this, they can attempt to capture the 'Christ' image for themselves,
and use it to help in their initial contact.

It's been proposed that 'Christ' was actually an alien before, why not
in his second comming??

(smile)
Well.. enough of the whacked out philosophy.. back to the Young Ones..
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic
From: stevans@resumix.portal.com (Mark Stevans)
Subject: Re: Winston/Stollman. Acid or Lithium?
Organization: Resumix, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:33:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.122852.8119@sunova.ssc.gov> rocko@ireland.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Rick O'leary) writes:
>In article <65641@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>|> Dear Garrett: I read you post and am willing to let you know whatever
>|> you would like to know.
>|> John Winston.
>
>Please Garrett,
>Don't play the governments game. He is an agent/grey/nut.
>Please don't ask him anything. Your read enough of his
>crap from others questions. 
>
>love and kisses
>
>	Rocko

Ladies and gentlemen, please.  The name of this newsgroup does not begin with
"alt" for nothing.  This is a publicly available alternative discussion forum.

Yes, it is a source of 1) information, 2) disinformation, and last but not
least, 3) misinformation, but I for one don't need or want anyone classifying
anything into one of those three categories for me.  I want to try to do it for
myself -- else I wouldn't subscribe.

John and Gary, I am withholding all of my questions until I am ready to ask
them intelligently.  Please continue your articles, knowing that there is an
attentive audience, though some of us may choose to remain relatively silent
for now.  Peace to all.

MLS
From: clc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Claudio Calvelli)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: The aliens have landed
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:22:39 GMT
Reply-To: clc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Claudio Calvelli)

In article <11vng2d.rickg@netcom.com> Rick Gordon writes:
> 
> My advice: Don't be a hero.  Keep your distance, but keep them in sight.
> If they've landed in Scotland, they may be off course, therefore irritable
> and dangerous.  Don't poke fun at them.
> 
> Keep us informed.

They spent about three hours exploring every corner of the garden, and
they must have noticed that there is no way to get out of it, unless you
either smash one door or go away with the spaceship again. This I forgot
to mention earlier: there is no way to get into that garden unless you
enter this building first, or come down from the sky; and none of us can
go and see where they decided to hide their spaceship, because we don't
have the keys.  In any case, after your advice I don't think I'd go out
and see.

After three hours I gave up. I hadn't eaten anything since lunchtime,
so I asked somebody else to observe them, and went to get something to
eat. In the meantime, they managed to get somehow out of the inner garden
and started exploring the garden just outside this building. Apparently,
their ship is still hidden in the inner garden. I guess that they know
that we cannot get in there, at least until Monday morning when there is
a janitor here.

When anybody tries to get nearby they make some threatening sounds and make
sure that the person goes away again. I think that they must be dangerous.
Please keep sending useful advice.
From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Intelligent Life???
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:50:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello all,
  I have been  following this  conference for some time now and am be-
ginning to wonder if  the question shouldn't be, 'is there intelligent
life  elsewhere in  the universe but  rather  is there inteligent life
here on earth'? This conference seems  to be rapidly degenerating into
a series of psudo-science questions and mental travelogues that belong
in some other  category such as alt.wishful-thinking. It just seems to
be  getting harder  and  harder  to find the items that are  worthy of
serious  discussion.  If, as some claim, the conference is being 'mon-
itored' we would be the equivilent of the cartoon channel to  whatever
aliens were there.
							Jim
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From: rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Loose Lips
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:49:35 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Bill,[You write]

>Look at Robert Lazar.  He's a former whore house manager (it's legal in
>Nevada) with no advanced education other than a "couple of courses at Cal
>Tech."  He got a job repairing gieger counters at Los Alamos and then
>would have us believe Edward Teller himself decided Lazar should be the
>one to analyze crashed UFOs to determine how they were powered.  He
"proves"
>that by showing records from the Department of Naval Intelligence citing
>his earnings at $27,000 a year.  

>The UFO people swallow this stuff wholesale.  One researcher, Linda
>Mouton Howe, is writing a book about him.  When I asked her why she
>insisted on calling him a "physicist" and "scientist" she said he was
>"very bright" and formal education was not necessary for someone like
him.

>She'll probably sell 100,000 copies about the "top US scientist" who came
>forward and "exposed" the secrets about UFOs.

Were did you get the information on Robert Lazar. I have been trying to get
some information on him for a while with little or no luck. I knew about
the soiled dove house stuff but, what's this about him having no former
education or a real job with the government. I have not read any
information about in any of the major UFO magazines for quite a while. If
all this is so, how does George Knapp fit into all this? Are you absolutley
sure of you allegations? Let us all know.

Thanks, 


Rod 



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From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: The aliens have landed
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:36:57 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <43866@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, clc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Claudio Calvelli) writes:

> When anybody tries to get nearby they make some threatening sounds and make
> sure that the person goes away again. I think that they must be dangerous.
> Please keep sending useful advice.

I don't suppose there are a lot of weeds in the garden by any chance?

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: cosjoaa@yalevm (Joo Costa)
Subject: E.T. Monitor
Followup-To: alt.alien.visitors
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:53:04 GMT

Hey, I guess you people watch that old geezer in "E.T. Monitor," which
comes to New Haven courtesy of the Keystone Inspirational Network. It would
be interesting to condct a poll and find out how many of you believe in the
kind of cospiracy theories he talks about--e.g. the alien base in New
Mexico. Great entertainment, though.