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From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: Re: 'M' the group
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:47:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.151914.28213@microsoft.com>, davecal@microsoft.com (David Caldwell) writes:
|> Does anybody out there have any inforamtion about this group?  I
|> own two of their albums (vinyl).  New York, London, Paris, Munich
|> which is a pretty good album and The Official Secrets Act which is
|> not quite as digestible.

Funny, I like The Official Secrets Act the best of their three albums.
(The third, and least good, one is called Famous Last Words.)


|> Also, does
|> anyone know if there are CD versions of M's releases available.  I have
|> not been able to find any in the states.

I wrote to the mastermind of the group, Robin Scott, and asked him if
there would ever be any more M material.  He said no, but the existing
albums might one day be released on CD.  This was several years ago.


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Timothy Klein                 I wish I had a kryptonite cross.  Then I
timk@meaddata.com             could keep both Dracula AND Superman away.
...!uunet!meaddata!timk                               -- Jack Handey
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: The Labyrinth, David Bowie, etc. etc.
Originator: shulick@navajo
Reply-To: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 06:26:14 GMT


IMHO, the best song on the Labyrinth soundtrack is "Within You."  Except there
is ONE line I can NOT understand, so I thought I'd ask here.  It's just after
"How you turned my world around you precious thing."  All I can figure out is
"You starve me near exhausted" or "Your <something> exhausts me."  Heelp!!

-- 
Sam Hulick         \ "Thank God I'm an atheist."
shulick@indiana.edu \
(NeXT mail welcome) /
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Donald Fagen/Jeff Baxter
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:00:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

maser@engin.umich.edu (Steven Michael Maser) writes:

>This weekend I'm going to see the "New York Rock and Soul Revue" and
>haven't heard a word about it in r.m.m

>Has anyone seen this show?  Any impressions?  Anybody know how
>much old Steely Dan material is played?  Any set lists?

A couple friends of mine saw the show at the GSAC in Holmdel, NJ this
week.  They said it was great, the closest you will get to a Steely
Dan show.

I did not get a chance to get specifics, but I know they played a
number of Steely Dan tunes, Boz Scaggs did some of his, as did
Phobie Snow.

From what I heard so far, it should be a great performance.  I am sorry
I did not get a chance myself to go.



-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
__________________________________________________

"We're sailing on the wind of better days"
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From: stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman)
Subject: new Yardbirds release?
Originator: stuart@mingus
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:00:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA


Anyone know the contents of the upcoming new Yardbirds collection?

        "The 'Little Games' Sessions and More" (2-cd).

Obviously the final studio sessions with Page (ca.'66-'67) which
produced the long missing "Little Games" album. But what's in the
"more" stuff? The Swedish radio set maybe? Hopefully not just a 
rehash of the Anderson Theatre show.
  
                                        -stuart@apollo.hp.com


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From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: First true stereo recordings?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:24:31 GMT


I've come into possession of a curious record, copyright 1963.  It's
published by Command Records, and claims to be a revolutionary 
recording.

They claim to have invented a way to make your two-speaker stereo
system sound as if it has a third channel in the center.  The liner
notes are covered with literature on what a magnificent breakthrough
this is, and how it will undoubtedly revolutionize the recording industry.

As far as I can tell, this magical technique consists of nothing more
than panning some of the tracks into the center of the stereo mix, so
that some of the instruments come out of both speakers, while others are
panned entirely to one side or the other.  Oooo, big breakthrough!

But then I think about all those old Beatles songs, in which all the
voices are recorded entirely on one side, and all the instruments entirely
on the other.  

So here's my question:  Was this 1963 record really a breakthrough?
Is it possible that, even though stereo had existed for quite some time,
it had never occurred to anybody before to mix the same track into both
channels to center it???  Somebody please restore my faith in humanity
by telling me this isn't true!


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Timothy Klein                 I wish I had a kryptonite cross.  Then I
timk@meaddata.com             could keep both Dracula AND Superman away.
...!uunet!meaddata!timk                               -- Jack Handey
From: beust@rhea.inria.fr (Cedric Beust)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Lyrics of Grease, anywhere?
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:56:42 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis, France


	I'm looking for the lyrics of Grease. Can I find them on an
	ftp site? Or is anyone willing to mail them to me?

	Please, reply via email. Thanks in advance!


--
Cedric BEUST, beust@sa.inria.fr, Bull Research Koala proj, KoalaBus & xforum
Pho:(33) 93.65.78.07(.66 Fax), INRIA, B.P.93 - 06902 Sophia Antipolis, FRANCE.
From: kumars@hls.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: 1 Clapton Ticket needed (Sept 3 at Shoreline)
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:36:24 GMT

I need one ticket for Eric Clapton on Sept 3 (Thursday)
at Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View California
Please respond ASAP !!!

Thanks in advance.

My email: kumars@lanslide.hls.com
 Phone:   (415) 966 6176 (work)
          (408) 249 8747 (home)

Kumar
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.folk
From: stevens@madvlsi.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens)
Subject: Who is Victoria Williams?
Organization: Columbia University
Keywords: Mould, Colvin, Shear, Crenshaw, Straw, Trooper
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:21:32 GMT
X-Posted-From: china.madvlsi.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hi, there will be a benefit show at Tramps in NYC on Sept. 16 for
Victoria Willams.  The featured artists so far are Bob Mould, Shawn
Colvin, Jules Shear, Marshall Crenshaw, Syd Straw, and Greg Trooper.

The question is (and pardon my ignorance): Who is Victoria Williams?!?

--andy s.
From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Which Lone Justice cd should I get?
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:41:20 GMT
Followup-To: sender
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada


I have money for one Lone Justice cd (maybe I'll get the other later) and I
need e-mail recommendations.

I LOVED the songs that they played on SNL a long time ago - but I forget the
names of the songs - I think one of them was Shelter - but I am not sure.
They have a cd called shelter - is it a one hit album? 

I am often very impressed with a song by a new (to me) band - but usually
when I buy the cd on the basis of one song, the rest of the cd sucks!  :^/

rsvp!
mike
-- 
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Bjork sounds so good, that if I were a singer trying to make a living today    
I'd shoot myself in desperation of ever equalling her  -  Barbara Ellen, NME
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From: mrc65@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: David Byrne CD singles
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:56:17 GMT

In article <RAIVIO.92Sep3141309@robocop.hut.FI> raivio@niksula.hut.fi (Perttu Raivio) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.193826.18714@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> krj@netsun.cl.msu.edu (Ken Josenhans) writes:
>       What I'd like to get is Byrne's version of Captain Beefheart's
>"Well" on CD. He began his set in the Provinssi Rock festival last june
>with it. A great song which many people dare not touch...
>
>--
>
>       K.P.Raivio - Helsinki U of T - raivio@niksula.hut.fi
>       Ei fl|ittej{, ei niin dzoukin p{tk{{k{{n...


How many David Byrne/TH fans are out there? I'm looking for some touring
information for the Midwest US. Anybody have a schedule?

Thanks
MRC
-- 
Michael R. Cirivello                    mrc65@cas.org
Librarian/Info Junkie (Just say Know)

"Congress shall make no law abridging...oh,..forget it!" - 90's Supreme Court
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: 10cc HELP!!!!!
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:56:36 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <john.715547926@spssig.spss.com> john@spss.com (John Przyborowski) writes:
>Friend of mine asked me this today--
>
>what band was 10cc before they were 10cc?  Or were one or two of the
>members in a famous band before they formed 10cc?

I think two of the guys were in the Mindbenders back in the sixties, also
one of the guys wrote some excellent songs for Manfred Mann and the
Yardbirds ("For Your Love" among them), (Graham Gouldman).
Just prior to 10cc they were all studio musicians.                 -ptlk
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: pmuller@oliver.sun.ac.za (Pieter Muller)
Subject: Re: Remember Shawn Phillips?
Reply-To: pmuller@cs.sun.ac.za
Organization: Stellenbosch University, South Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:44:53 GMT

: I have it on CD.  I actually bought it before I had a player.  It was 
: one of the CDs I used to test the players.  I heard things in "She Was
: Waiting for her Mother..." that I hadn't heard in 20 years of listening
: to the song on vinyl.  If I wasn't already planning on getting a 
: player, that album would have sold me...Anyways, that's not what you want to 
: hear.  It's on A&M and the catalogue # is CD 69931.  I bought it over 2
: years ago.  I don't know if it's still available.

This CD was recently pressed (is that the right word?) in South Africa's
only CD manufacturing plant.  They are issueing lots of older stuff on
local pressings now.

--
----------------------
 pmuller@cs.sun.ac.za 
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Need information about " The Doors " .
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:00:03 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <0.2367510644069@kiae.su> x0501 writes:
>
|       I've been heard wonderful song two days ago. It begins with next
|words : " Show me the way to the next whisky bar ".Some songs of "The Doors"
|I've heard ~10 years ago, and, of course, recognize this group at once.
|Sorry, I don't understand the text of this song completely.

Don't worry.  You're not alone.  The lyrics to "The Doors" have always been
a topic of interpretation.  I remember my high school sophmore English class
tried to interpret "Horse Lattitudes".  That was in 1970.

>( Refrain begins with " I know that we must die " or " I don't ask you why " )
I thinks "I tell you we must die" and "No, don't ask why".

>My dear friends , I'll be thankfull for all of you (for your attention) ,
>and especially for those, who send me the text of this/other song ( and also
>any information about " The Doors " ) .

Although some question the accuracy of the film, you ought to try and find
"The Doors" video.  It's a powerful film that might lead some insight into
"The Doors" and Jim Morrison.
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: any info on SANDRA?
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:44:54 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <mroosen.715334025@istw234> mroosen@prl.philips.nl writes:
<In <134923@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
<>Sandra is from Germany.  She is a superstar in Europe, with over
<>half a dozen albums.  Unfortunately, almost all of her albums are only
<
<Oops, Sandra a superstar in Europe ??? You must be kidding :-)
<She probably is a big star in Germany and Austria, but over here in the 
<Netherlands, Belgium and I'll bet even in England she is not even considered
<a star.

I guess I should have said she's a superstar in "parts of Europe".  
Sorry.  It is my understanding that, in addition to Germany, she's
quite well known in Eastern Europe and parts of the former Soviet Union.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: rcheung@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Richard Cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Hunters and Collectors
Summary: hunters
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:05:52 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

In article <Aug.24.13.43.44.1992.2290@presto.ig.com> relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph) writes:
>
>I haven't heard much from Hunters & Collectors lately.  Last thing I
>saw was a Mark Seymour and Paul Kelly collaboration, "Hey Boys".  Any
>news on a new album?  Or have the Hunnas hung it up?  There was a
>single rumoured to have been released in May of this year, but it
>never surfaced here in the USA.

Hunters and Collectors have released a new single in Australia called 
"Head above water".. it is quite different in direction to their previous 
work, but also better. The release of the new album is now imminent. I
don't have all the info on memory but I do have it in a magazine. 

cheers

Rich

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From: jwr@cerebus.Kodak.COM (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Help with song requested
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:25:44 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company


Does anyone know what the name of this song is, and who the artist
performing it is?

I heard it a couple of times this weekend, and it's driving me crazy...

"I once was a frog, hop, hop, hopping along,
 then a log, eat a dog, smog, smog, smog..."

"Eat em up, Mr. Wackerman, that's the way it's always been,
 Stig's here, Stu's here, where's the bottom of my oily wagon.."

Please help!


 "Many wondered about his procession of life which made many a dimound back
  pattern."
                                                          - Tim Riffle

                                                            Jim Reid
                                                            jwr@titan.kodak.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: Neil Diamond
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:50:26 GMT
Keywords: Neil Diamond

In article <1992Sep2.113854.28063@daimi.aau.dk> ezra@daimi.aau.dk (Thomas Ravnholt) writes:
>
> Hi !
>
>I recently heard a song by Neil Diamond, which
>I liked very much.
>
>I believe it was called Dry_your_eyes.
>
>After some hours on the net, I still have not
>been able to find the lyrics for this song.
>If someone know the lyrics please mail me.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Thomas Ravnholt 
> ezra@daimi.aau.dk

Brenda & The Tabulations had a top-20 hit in '67 with "Dry Your Eyes."
From: walters@agar.metaphor.com (Tim Walters)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Prog bands: eloy, Rare Bird, Master's Apprentice, Van Der Graaf
Keywords: Descriptions of their music requested
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:08:57 GMT
Organization: Metaphor Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Aug31.183557.22193@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> kalang@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.lang) writes:
>
>I was wondering if anyone could give me descriptions of the following
>progressive bands:
>
>Eloy
>Vandergraaf Generator
>Master's Apprentice
>Rare Bird
>
>I have albums by PFM, Happy the Man, Caravan, Soft Machine, King Crimson,
>National Health, Pavlov's Dog, Gentle Giant and Camel if you want to use these
>bands as a reference.

The only one I know about is VDGG, but I'm quite familiar with them.
In some ways they are very typical of British 70s prog-rock:  keyboards
dominate guitars, lots of odd time signatures, etc.  However, there are
some important differences:

    1.  Peter Hammill sings like no one else in that genre.  Like no
        one else on Earth, in fact.

    2.  They had an unusual and hot sax player, David Jackson.

    3.  They were much more willing to be abrasive than almost any
        other band of their ilk (barring Crimso and Soft Machine).
        This is often a consequence of nos. 1 and 2.

    4.  Hammill's lyrics, while sometimes dippy and almost always way
        pretentious, avoid a lot of the usual pitfalls:  vagueness,
        excessive cosmicity, etc.  The self-pity gets a bit thick,
        but with him screaming and the band thrashing away, he 
        gets away with it more than one would expect.

In short, with the list of stuff that you like above, you should 
definitely check them out.  Albums I recommend are _Godbluff_,
_H to He_, _The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other_.  Albums
I semi-recommend are _Pawn Hearts_, _Still Life_, _World Record_,
and _The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome_.  I strongly disrecommend
_Aerosol Grey Machine_ and _Vital_ (although the former has one
really beautiful song, "Afterwards" -- tape it off somebody).

Peter Hammill has many solo albums, but the only ones I can stand
are _The Future Now_ and _A Black Box_.  Even these are marred by
some truly weak songs.  I recommend sticking to the band records
until you're addicted.

Conversely, there's an album called _The Long Hello_ that was made
by the rest of the guys sans Hammill.  It's all instrumental and
quite good, albeit rather mellow... oh, but wait, you like Happy
the Man.  No problem then.  Avoid _The Long Hello, Vol. 2_ like
the proverbial plague, though.  My favorite thing about _TLH_ is
that it comes in a generic sleeve with a xeroxed sheet listing
the tunes.  I think it's since been reissued in a more attractive
package, but I don't know if it's made it to CD.

And if you like this sort of thing, you really need to listen to
the Muffins and Henry Cow, by far and away the best 70s prog bands
in my book.



-- 
Tim:  walters@mills.edu
-----------------------
"How much longer do we have to hang about waiting for the Antichrist?"
     --Samuel Beckett
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: bend@aie.nl (Ben Doets)
Subject: Sugar Hill Gang
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:47:09 GMT

.......................................................................
More than a decade ago, I guess it was about 1978, there was this
group called the Sugar Hill Gang. They had a #1 hit with their Rappers
Delight for a lot of weeks here in the Netherlands.

I am wondering if they were the first rappers to hit the charts as well
as the first samplers. That is 'using' other bands music.
Remember that the music was by Chic with their Good Times.

Does anyone have more information about all this ?

Thanks,
ben

bend@aie.nl
.......................................................................
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: kalang@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.lang)
Subject: Re: Who was original artist for "Reason TO Believe"?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:25:47 GMT
Keywords: Wilson

In article <5679@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> rns@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Rick Schubert) writes:
>In <BtD35K.HB8@ecf.toronto.edu> funga@ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG Alexander Yok-Wai) writes:
>
>>In article <chuckr.714434135@cserver> chuckr@cserver.plexus.COM (Chuck Reisdorf) writes:
>>>Wilson Phillips did a remake to the song "Reason to Believe".  Does anyone recall the original, or popular artist who did this song about 10 years ago?
>
>>The song "A Reason To Believe" was recorded in the early 1970s by Rod Stewart.
>>I'm not sure if it was released as a single at that time.
>
>It was the flip side of "Maggie May," both :-) from 1971.
>
>-- Rick Schubert (rick.schubert@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM)

How about Jade Warrior's rare contribution to hard rock, "Reason to Believe" ?
They didn't write this , did they?

"Al=l we wanted was to have a good time,
And here they were implying we'd committed a crime" is one of the lines in the
song, I think.


-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
**    Ken Lang                                              AT&T          *
*"The dust blows forward and the dust blows back on the toads of the      *
* short forest and every newt in Idaho."- A sampling of Don Van Vliet & FZ*
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Whence Cassandra?
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:50:48 GMT

I am an ABBA fan, and I have many of their albums, including Waterloo, Arrival,
Voulez-Vous, The Album, Super Trouper, and The Visitors.  I also have one
compilation called "Love Songs" which seems to be kind of a greatest hits
package.

There are four songs on the compilation that are not on any of the above
albums--"Cassandra", "I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do", "Fernando", and "Should I
Laugh or Cry".  I've been told that "I Do..." appears on ABBA's self-titled
album, which came out after Waterloo, and which I've never heard.  Nobody I
talked to, though, could name the albums(if any)that the other three songs came
from.  Were they in fact from albums, or were they new songs added to the
collection?  Were they from soundtracks or something?  Or are there still more
albums out there?  (Were they from, like, the Movie or something?  Yes, I
shamefully confess I saw the ABBA movie when I was younger.)

Reply by email or posting as necessary...and please correct my chronology of
the above albums if it's wrong...I'm doing it from memory and guesswork.

--
---Alfvaen(a.k.a. Nysinra, rot13 Psycho)
"Been there, done that
 Been there, don't want to go back"  --Brian Eno & John Cale
Current Album--A Chorus Line Soundtrack
Current Read--Charlotte Bronte:Villette
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: RQST: Electronic - Disappointed
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:42:21 GMT

rmm@dinsdale.ipac.caltech.edu (Mike Melnyk) writes:

>I have the UK CD of 'Disappointed'. The US CD has the "FBI mix" of 'Gangster' 
>instead of 'Idiot Country II'. I'm curious what you people out there think of 
>this new version of 'Gangster', i.e., is it worth forking out six bucks for?

    Not in my opinion.  It's basically about three minutes of instrumental
which fades out like it's going to end, then the regular mix starts up,
with a little more Johnny Marr guitar work than usual.  Nothing all that
spectacular about it at all.

    Now, 'Disappointed', that's a great song.  What mixes are on the
UK release?  The US version has 'Single Mix', 'Electronix Mix', and
a remix done by 808 State (cool band) called, amazingly enough, '808 Mix'.

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
One of the richest men in the world made his billions selling a toy "operating
system" that is more accurately described as a glorified bootstrap loader.
                                                  -- Phil Karn