From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Zentraedi vs. Invid
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 06:18:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.202453.20443@yang.earlham.edu> jeffj@yang.earlham.e
u (ChaOs) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.202214.28576@muddcs.claremont.edu>, jgoo@jarthur.cl
remont.edu (Justin M.W. Goo) writes:
>> 
>> In case you didn't know.  The Zentraedi were (aside from being monopol
 ore
>> miners on Fantoma), orignially the Robotech Master's great army reprog
amed
>> to fight the invid.  The outcome of that battle was already dictated..
both
>
>Brainwashed by Macek.  How sad.  In case _you_ didn't know, originally t
e
>Zentradei had nothing to do with the Invid.  The Zenmtradei are from _Ma
ross_,
>the Invid from _Mospeada_, two series that had nothing to do with one an
ther. 
>However, one Carl Macek, when releasing some anime shows in America, dec
ded to
>string three unrelated series together for (I suppose) marketing purpose
. 
>With some dialogue rewriting, tacking in of scenes from the "earlier" se
ies,
>and the like, Southern Cross (not sure about the real name of this one) 
nd
>_Mospeada_ became Robotech: Southern Cross and the Reflex Point series.
>
>I'm sure someone out there has a more detailed list of how Macek shredde
 the
>three series...is this a FAQ, or what?
>
>> were licked by the RDF so that little scenario isn't particularly wort
 it.
>> If you want to read about it the McKinney books do tell of that story 
n
>> some parts...
>> 
>> While we're on it.  I personally think that the Zentraedi would kick
>> anyone's butt...be it Borg, Klingon, Romulan, Star Wars Empire, just a
out
>> anyone, they were the toughest, the biggest, they did have tactical
>> expertise (or if that fails they had Khyron)... No I don't think that 
nyone
>> really stands a chance against them in full force, not without cheatin
 like
>> the RDF did.  I don't know if I would put them into the coolest villia

>> discussion, but the are certainly the baddest...
>
>I personally have no respect for any race that could be defeated by the 
inging
>of Lynn Minmei.
>
>Jeff "It merely sends me into a destructive rage centered on the televis
on
>set's speakers..." Johnston                          JeffJ@yang.earlham.
du


Oh, come on...stop flaming, s'il vous plait.  Most of the people 
who read this group know the difference between Robotech and the
original anime shows.  It's just that some of the people actually
happen to LIKE Robotech, or at least be thoroughly familiar with 
its history.  The person who wrote the previous message must have
been one of them; I'm another.  So he didn't include a disclaimer:
"What I'm referring to is Robotech, which is actually 3 shows put
together by Carl Macek which originally bore no resemblance to each
other."  It's no reason to assume he doesn't know about it, or to
jump down his throat about it, for that matter.

I've seen both Robotech and Macross Summer '84.  I like Macross, but
I also like Robotech.  I happen to like both James Bond novels and
James Bond movies, too, which is about the same when you consider it.
And I'm sure that I would also like the original Macross, Southern
Cross, and Mospeada shows, too.  Liking Robotech and liking the 
original anime shows is NOT mutually exclusive!

Gee...I've just noticed that I seem to be flaming.  Damn, I hate that.
Let me just add one more note: If Reba West's singing doesn't make 
YOU just a little bit sick to your stomach, then you must not be
fully human.  ;)  And if it does that to you, just think what that
would do to the Zentraedi...  :)

(One wonders why, when they discovered that the Zentraedi were 
affected that way by kissing, the SDF-1 didn't just start beaming
Cream Lemon at the Zentraedi.  The war would have been over in a 
couple of days! ;)

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Chris Meadows // CHM173S@SMSVMA // CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU
   "If blood be the price of admiralty, then I've just bought me 
    a naval commission."  -- Corwin, SIGN OF THE UNICORN, Roger Zelazny

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