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From: CK3 <ckukkone@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> 
Subject: How much to set up a station?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:02:50 GMT

Please excuse my total and complete ignorance...but I am 
curious what would be the cheapest AM and FM setups that
I could have that would transmit in about a 30 mile radius.
Right now, I am a mere DJ but I would be really interested
in this info.  Also, I would like to know how much the
FCC charges stations.

Thanks a lot.

Carl

[Moderator's Note:  Carl, the only ignorant question is one you don't
ask.  Now, I can't vouch for the answers you'll get :-) :-)]
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: Local favorite FM station about to get stepped on...
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:33:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Originator: wdp@gagme



>In article <1992Jul11.004226.21878@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
jack@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jack Kobzeff) writes:

>On a somewhat related question, I am somewhat miffed by an >>apparent<<
>power increase in a local translator wiping out a distant station.
>The scenario is that I like to listen to 91X (91.1 in Tijuana, Mex.).
>For years I have been able to listen to them with varying degrees of 
>quieting. But they were always there. For the last year or so at my 
>location, they have been getting walked over by the Simi Valley 
>translator for KUSC, which is also on 91.1. Now, I don't know for 
>a fact that the translator did increase it's power, but other than
>sunspots, I'm out of other explanations. 
>
>How did the FCC allow a translator at 91.1 when there is a very powerful
>station on the same frequency just over a 100 miles away??? If the FCC

It's closer to 150 miles, and there's a (more or less) mountain range
between TJ and SV.

Still...

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From: mayer@miami.ucs.indiana.edu (Darla Stewart)
Subject: Re: AM radio needn't die
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: ACS Indiana University Bloomington Indiana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:22:54 GMT


(In reply to john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon), who challenged readers to name 
any AM stations, excluding 50kw'ers, which make money with a music format)

I can name one AM station, 1KW in Atlanta! that's doing well with a music
format... WPLO, 610AM. 

They're playing contemp country, and doing a good job of it.  They're in 
Lawrenceville, definitely within the 3.17 mv/m contour of WKHX and WYAY/WYAI
(both 100kw FM contemp country).  They promote to the hilt... and they've 
been making money since they moved off 1360.  Incidentally, they run
stereo, and make a big deal of it.  Sounds good, even on my crappy Delco
radio in the car... and it's C-QUAM.

I believe AM can make it... but it takes a lot of work, constant effort, and
not a few bucks spent. Certainly FMs have an easier time... but there are
the AMs who are making it with music formats.
From: fybush\@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Howard Stern
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:50:36 GMT
Organization: Unixland
Originator: wdp@gagme


blair\@obdient.chi.il.us (Doug Blair) writes:

>I think we're going to have to stick with channel 66 for our Howard fix
>for a while.

Not too much longer, as Stern's TV show has been cancelled :-)

As far as where Stern will show up in Chicago radio, there's an odd
twist in Chicago just as there is in LA.  Stern is heard in LA on
Greater Media's KLSX-FM.  But Infinity, which owns Stern, owns KROQ-FM
there.  If you were Infinity's CEO, would you want Howard or KROQ to
be more successful?

The same applies, sort  of in Chicago, where Infinity owns WJMK-FM,
which has an Oldies format.  Again, if Howard turned up on WLUP (AM)
or on WWBZ-FM, Infinity would be competing with itself, albeit for
a very different audience.

No such problem if Stern ever comes to o Boston.the logical station
for him here is WBCN-FM, owned by Infinity itself.  Of course 'BCN
also has one of the top-rated and longest-lasting morning jocks in
the country with Charles Laquidara, so don't count on any changes
there.  They could pull a surprise move and offer Stern to Cook
Inlet's classic rocker WZLX, but I wouldn't count on it.  This is
no market for shock jocks.  Just ask Andy Moes at all-sports WEEI-AM.
He recently landed at 19th in the market...behind a country station
from 60 miles away in New Hampshire!  Look for the Celtics to be
making some changes at EEI.  One rumor is that Infinity will buy 
WEEI, giving it a sports AM-rock FM combo like its WFAN-WXRK in
New York, then simulcast either Howard Stern or (long shot) Don
Imus on WEEI in morning drive.  Still a rumor for now.

Scott Fybush -- fybush\@unixland.natick.ma.us
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From: bp268@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Ward)
Subject: John Landecker (was Re: Great AM Radio Shows)
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:23:07 GMT


Re: Where is John "Records" Landecker

Until recently, he was morning drive at WPHR-FM 107.9 (Power 108,
now WENZ-FM/"The End"), Cleveland.  I've heard a rumor or two
that he does fill-ins for crosstown WMJI-FM 105.7, but I haven't
heard him on there yet.
 
Mike
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From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Jim Ladd's "Radio Waves"
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:34:24 GMT


I had the pleasure this past week of reading Jim Ladd's book "Radio
Waves: Life and Revolution on the FM Dial."  I recommend it...with
a few reservations.  Ladd was one of LA's biggest rock DJs in the 
1970s and 1980s and the book is his recollections of his days in LA
radio.  So far so good; it's a topic that needs more exploration.
Ladd has done something odd, though...he's changed all the call letters
and many names.  There are enough clues to figure out what all the
stations are.  If you pick up the book, keep this chart handy:

[In order of appearance]:

Ladd       Reality
----       -------
KFRE       106.9 KMPX (now 98.9 KDBK) San Francisco
KDOM       106.7 KPPC (now KROQ) Pasadena
KBRK       105.5 KNAC Long Beach
KHIP       94.9 KSAN Oakland
KAOS       94.7 KMET (now KTWV) LA
KGAB       790 KABC LA
KASH       95.5 KLOS LA
KCWB       570 KLAC LA
Micromedia Metromedia
KVVT-TV    KTTV-TV 11 LA

I could use some help deciphering some of the pseudonyms Ladd uses
for real people, though.  For example, he calls the evening jock
on KAOS (KMET) "Mega Turnon".  Any KMET listeners out there 
remember her real name?  What about overnight jock "Joanne Goodwin"?
Program director "Terri Belle"?  Any help on real names...or
present locations...would be appreciated.  A few of the people
named for real are still around.  Morning jock Jeff Gonzer now
holds the midday slot on Boston classic rocker WZLX.  And anybody
know what became of Raechel Donahue?  If she's still around
somewhere, I'd love to do a *SIGNALS* segment on her.  Anybody
know?

Anyway, check out the book...it's well written and a lot of fun.
The paperback is just out, published by St. Martin's Press.  Your
bookstore can order it if they don't have it (in Boston, Waterstone's
and Borders both have it in stock).  I don't know about international
availability.

Scott Fybush -- fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us
So Westinghouse now owns KTWV...I STILL don't speak for them :-)

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From: genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott)
Subject: Re: Radio 'Prank' Wake-Up Calls Illegal 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: UIUC Computing Services Office 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:53:00 GMT


genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott) writes:

>wrong.
>the FCC *specifically* states that permission must be granted *before* the
>recording.  i am unsure how programs such as 'candid camera' get around this,
>but if a station does not have proof of permission *before* the
>recording, they will lose if they run up against a complaint.  i can't
>quote any specific reading material, but this came up at our station
>(our lawyers passed it on to us--we're not being investigated :-)

To clarify myself :-)
as someone else pointed out, if the caller *places* the call in a situation
where the station *regularly* plays callers, consent does not need to be
given. but it doesn't hurt to get it beforehand :-)

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From: steveh@grafex.cupertino.ca.us (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Helpful hint
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:46:12 GMT
Organization: The GRAFex Company
Originator: wdp@gagme


Check your newsreader, radio pals.

When replying to a post it most likely will not go directly to the
moderator, as you would naturally assume, but to the person who posted.

steve

[Moderator's Note: Unless your newsreader is broken, the 'r' option sets a
mail reply to the poster without quoting the article, the 'R' does the same
WITH quted text.  The 'f' option is for 'followup article' w/o quoted text and
the "F" does the same WITH quoted text.   So if you want to post a followup
article, use 'f' or 'F'.  If you want to e-mail the poster, use 'r' or 'R'.
Of course, you can just e-mail your articles directly to the address of ..
rrb@airwaves.chi.il.us.]
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From: michaelb@wshb.csms.com (Michael Batchelor - WSHB Operations Eng) 
Subject: Re: Radio 'Prank' Wake-Up Calls Illegal
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:35:31 GMT


[...]

>>>Well, it seems that this has been discontinued because of a threat
>>>from the FCC. Seems this practice is unfair because the recipient
>>>of the wake-up call does not have fair warning. I wonder if this
>>>means that Candid Camera (and the like) are illegal now, too.
>>
>>Nope.  The difference is that Candid Camera is not live whereas the
>>phone calls are.  I'm also pretty sure that Candid Camera must receive
>>permission from their victims to air the video segment.  I know that
>
>I doubt that is the reason. The info I got from management clearly stated
>that both LIVE AND TAPED were affected. The permission MUST be in
advance.
>
>It basically says You MUST get consent from somebody you call before
>you put them on the air or BEFORE YOU PUT THEM ON TAPE. This is
>regardless of your states wiretap laws. You CANNOT do it and then
>ask later. Fine: $5,000.


Before you CALL. Therein lies the rub. You are using a medium regulated by
the FCC. The telephone lines. Allen F. and crew are just standing around
with cameras waiting for suckers. I once saw an interview with him and he
was very quick to point out that they DO NOT air segments without full
written permission from all of the parties in the video. He did mention
that the only peole who had ever refused to give permission were
people who appeared to be in the wrong place with the wrong person,
but that interview was probably 20 years ago. I'm sure he's been
turned down a time or two since then.

As an interesting side note, he told a story about when he was on a plane
that was hijacked to Havannah, and nobody would believe it was real
because they all recognized him and wanted to know where the camera was
hidden.



Michael
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From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: AM radio needn't die 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:37:03 GMT
 

In article <1992Jul23.075948.11771@gagme.chi.il.us> john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) writes:

>If a radio junkie cannot even tell
>what stations are stereo and which are not, then we might as well give
>up on the public at large. KEEN is the ONLY AM station in the San Jose
>market to employ stereo of any type, EVER.

This is directed at John....

A radio junkie friend who lives in San Francisco came to visit me
while I was doing my traffic reporting shift on an AM/FM pair of
stations I know you're well familiar with. :-)

As I revved up to do my break, he tuned his walkman-style AM stereo
receiver to KEEN (he'd been anxiously awaiting this) and listened to
my traffic break.

"Wow!  It's WONDERFUL!  You've just GOT to hear it!" he exclaimed.

I thought you'd like to know your work is appreciated.

--Lynn
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From: omen!caf\@uunet.UU.NET (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX)
Subject: Re: No-Fade Info Arrives 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 07:17:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.065238.4932\@gagme.chi.il.us> cls4\@Ra.MsState.Edu
(Charles L. Spirrison) writes:

>The information on No-Fade radios arrived from Broad Brothers today.
>
>For those interested, here's their address:
>
>Broad Brothers, Inc.           telephone  
>11038 Olive Blvd                numbers:   1-800-255-5891          
>Creve Coeur, MO 63141                      (314) 567-6565 
>
>The GE SuperRadio II is not considered a No-Fade radio.  Apparently the 
>term "No-Fade" is reserved for radios equipped with digital tuning.  The 
>B. Bros. brochure states:
>
>    "Digital tuning allows you to lock onto the exact frequency of the 
>     station to which you wish to listen.  This greatly reduces station
>     'drifting' and 'fading', that is usually associated with 'Analog
>     Tuning' radios . . . .  Our digital 'no-fade' radios are designed to 
>     maximize your reception of long-range A M signals.  Although, there 
>     may be times when your long-range reception may not be the best, we
>     are confident that our radios are the finest available."
>
>A number of radios are listed and briefly described -- 

[list of radios deleted]

The ICF-SW20 is a tiny analog radio with shortwave bands.  If
one aligns it carefully, MW sensitivity is fair, better than the
digital SW-1, and not bad for such a tiny radio.  But it is no
match for larger radios.

The 7601 is a larger analog radio.  When carefully tweeked it
has good MW sensitivity, but is still no match for a 2010.

Digital tuning on an MW radio is not going to help with skywave
fading.  Diveristy reception can minimize the fading, and a 2010
style SYNC detector minimized the distortion generated by
selective fading.

When reception get really nasty, the SSB detector on a good
comms receiver digs out the signal better, but the audio quality
leaves something to be desired.
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From: lagnaf@camelot.bradley.edu (Jeremy Styninger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: Seeking info on music/record service for cable FM station.
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:48:42 GMT
Organization: Bradley University
Originator: wdp@gagme


In <1992Jul23.080132.11895@gagme.chi.il.us> mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(Sid)  writes:

>the stuff I need to know....

>Like what the hell do you have to do to talk to Ron at Cruz?  I mean I
>have mailed and called and called and mailed and still he will not start
>service at the station.  I mean we have like 35 or so Cruz releases on
>dusty vinyl but nothing new since the last ALL or something.  Any
>suggestions?

Ron is a very busy man also running SST records.  I'm sure if you
could pin him down he would explain that he only has so many promo
copies to give out, say 500, so he can only service 500 stations.  To
service you he would have to drop other stations who he has very
carefully selected to get to most value from those 500.
So getting service will be tough since your station is so small.  

>What cool industrial Labels are you guys dealing with?  
>Anyone have the address for radioactive?  mammoth?  beggar's banquet?

Names and numbers are available from the college trades.  If you are
subscribing you should have no trouble making contacts.  If not
contact me for more help.

Jeremy Styninger
wondering if there is any market for a good college/community radio
consultant......
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From: roy@panix.com (Roy Radow)
Subject: Re: Tom Snyder's Radio Show
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:24:19 GMT

In <1992Jul23.080356.12129@gagme.chi.il.us> jj2h+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joe N.
Juisai) writes:

>The Chicago stations don't DX well in Pitt.  In fact, they don't DX at all.

>What about New York or Philly stations?  any suggestions?

In New York City Tom is on WABC 770 AM.

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From: Robert A. Sobczak <SOBCZAK%MAINE.MAINE.EDU@VM1.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: Radio 'Prank' Wake-Up Calls Illegal
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:35:32 GMT


In article <1992Jul17.052916.15745@gagme.chi.il.us>,
sdc!sdc.com!kenk\@uunet.UU.NET (Ken Konecki) says:
>
>Nope.  The difference is that Candid Camera is not live whereas the
>phone calls are.  I'm also pretty sure that Candid Camera must receive
>permission ...
>
I don't believe that anyone goes out of their way to do a live phone
prank.

Even with a 7 sec delay, it is too stupid to not be able to edit
some thing that clearly takes alot of time, not to mention that I
wouldn't put it past most people to answer the phone, yell some
obsenity, then hang up.

Let me tell ya, it makes for good radio.     NOT

I always use tape and razor blades to tighten up my bits. Consultants and
GM's don't want you talking anyway, so I don't give them a chance to
say cut the chatter.

Rob
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From: Will Martin <wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re:  Howard Stern
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Unknown
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:25:29 GMT

For those who care, the latest issue of Penthouse (Sept '92) has Stern
on the cover and an interview with him inside. 

(The other pictures are better... :-)

Will

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sid) 
Subject: Seeking info on music/record service for cable FM station.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:01:32 GMT


Introductions....

  Sean Sowder (aka SID) music director at WQAX a very small cable
station located on the campus of Indiana University operating on an
income of $25 a month (our sole sponsor.)

So I see lots of technical stuff out there in the newgroup what about
the stuff I need to know....

Like what the hell do you have to do to talk to Ron at Cruz?  I mean I
have mailed and called and called and mailed and still he will not start
service at the station.  I mean we have like 35 or so Cruz releases on
dusty vinyl but nothing new since the last ALL or something.  Any
suggestions?

What cool industrial Labels are you guys dealing with?  I am currently
playing with Nettwerk, Wax Trax, Third Mind (Roadrunner), Play It Again
Sam (through Caroline), and Grey Area of Mute... anything else out
there?

Anyone have the address for radioactive?  mammoth?  beggar's banquet?

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From: BLACK%HWS1%HWS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (WEOS-FM)
Subject: Re: Radio Prank Wakeup Calls 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:04:20 GMT


I disagree with Tim Elliot. You must have permission to broadcast the calls.
The exception would be "Call in" programs. A wake up call prank just does not
float with the FCC language. I have heard some stations run adds that say "all
call to XXX-XXXX are recorded and can be used on WXXX" but there is some
question as to the usage of this as well. It is better to be safe than fined 
or fired. Check with the latest FCC rules on this, as many stations record and
assume they can air someone. You can't just say you're on the air, as that is
not notification. The FCC ruled on that years ago.


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From: prmount@attmail.att.com (Paul R Mount)
Subject: Re: No-Fade Radio
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:56:40 GMT


Wouldn't "no-drift" be more accurate?  The radio can't prevent
a distant station from fading.

Paul
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