HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 26 Jul 1992 23:04:43 CDT
From: D.C.I. <U27554@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: <<< FOR SALE "IBM based software" >>>

IBM based softwares.        Disk Size.
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Pctools Ver. 7.1            (3.5")      manuals are included.
Pctools Antivirus Ver. 1.3  (3.5")      latest virus checker from Pctool.
Window 3.0                  (5.25"HD)   manual and title page are included.
WordFinder by Microlytics   (3.5")      Electronic Thesaurus
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 I will like to sell this as a combo for <<< $90 >>> plus shipping. I
would prefer money order or cashier check. Items listed here will not be
seperated. Unless, you have a better offer. Thank you for you time in
reading this post.

                                                       Wilson Lam

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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: bn050@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gwochyuan Chen)
Subject: Re: SPLIT THIS GROUP <-- Think other alternatives first
Reply-To: bn050@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gwochyuan Chen)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 09:06:07 GMT


In a previous article, rcox@cad625.intel.edu (Richard Cox) says:

(personal opinions omitted)
For most of the pro- and cons of splitting this misc.forsale.computer
group:

>
>Cons to splitting:
>o misuse (cross-posting)
>
>Pros to splitting:
>o easier to find articles specific to you 
>o people without sorting/kill files benefit quite a bit
>o manageable # of articles per group
>
>Cons to not-splitting:
>o misuse (poor subject lines)
>o huge number of articles in 1 group
>o difficult to find specific articles, esp. without sorting capability
>

The solution, either by splitting to the fullest details, or just leaving it
as it has been, can never be fully satisfactory to everyone.    Both sides
have provided lots of arguments for splitting this group or not in recent
months.   The spiral seems to be tearing farther apart.

Excuse me if I've repeated something some others have brought up.   I
strongly suggest:
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Implement a better command to read these Usenet News.
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For those who promote the splitting, their major complaint is that they
cannot wait to read the subject line one by one, and this group has grown
so fast that this way of scanning articles is very inefficient.    This
complaint has its point.    I have a book

NetNews Reference Manual by Anatole Olczak
2nd Ed., 1989, A System Publications, Inc., San Jose, CA

which discusses in detail all the read/post/check Usenet News commands
available in UNIX.    I do not know how the Usenet News are processed in
other systems, but from I can know in that book, all the commands:

readnews, rn, vn, vnews

present to the viewer only one article's subject line to you at one time.
Although there are commands to display ALL UNREAD articles' topic lines,
they are scrolled out of the screen very quickly.    There should also be
commands to let you see the topic lines for a range of articles, but it is
often buried deep in the available command lists, and thus not easy to use.

What we need is a new news-reading command which by default can display
a range of article topics at your disposal.   Each time a screenful of
article subject lines are shown, and we can move up/down one screenful a time.
For a 24-hr accumulation of new articles in this group, several screenful of
display can cover them.   In fact there is one in use, it's right here.   
Once I tapped into this environment, I never came back to the old horse of
readnews/rn/vn/vnews.   Well, seldom actually only when I cannot connect to
this Freenet access.

So, how about this  
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Gwochyuan Chen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bn050@cleveland.freenet.edu
* Computers are your worst investment.  They lose money faster than life
  insurance, and you don't even have to die to lose it.   -- Russ Botton
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: newsalt@qedqcd.rye.ny.us (News Acct. 2)
Subject: Re: Split this group!!! (NOT!)
Organization: High Energy Concepts
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:34:25 GMT

In article <Brt0t1.By6@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cebarton@laplace.waterloo.edu (Casey Barton) writes:
>Jim Vienneau  - Sun Microsystems writes:
>> lem7266@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>> >I agree!!  It takes me an hour to get through this group when
>> >all I'm interested in is the IBM stuff...
>> 
>> But what do you consider "IBM stuff"? Modems?, disk drives?, SIMMs? These
>> items and many others span all system types. Cross posting will be the norm.
>> ...
>>
>> <<<< Break up misc.forsale,computers?... JUST SAY *NO*! >>>>
>
>    misc.forsale.computers.hardware
>    misc.forsale.computers.software
>
>    'nuff said.

Just say YES to a split.  Any split will do.  This group is usually
not worth the effort to "read" because its one big BLUR on the screen.
Even with a threaded news reader.  Hardware can be split: ibm-compatiable,
apple, and other.  Software can be done the same way.  That would 
*vastly* improve readability of this group.  And it doesnt take any 
more time to read two or three groups of interest since you would be
trying to read them as *one big mess* the way it is now.  An as to
cross postings - flame the poster.  They won't do it again since this
group is quite vocal in its opinions.  

So, since I've said this much, I am going the extra step to formally
propose a RFD on this subject.  LETS SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Follow ups on RFD's should be directed to news.groups ONLY as per
Usenet group creation guidelines.  The RFD, to start, will be general
and will ask for a minimum split of this group into
	misc.forsale.computers.hardware
	misc.forsale.computers.software

and further a maxium (at least for purposes of this RFD) split into
	misc.forsale.computers.hardware.ibm
				       .apple
				       .other
	misc.forsale.computers.software.ibm
				       .apple
				       .other

The purpose of the RFD will be to determine which, if any of these
or some modification thereof, shall be the basis for superceding this
group.

Mike,

flame away, but at least email to save some bandwith.

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From: dakos@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Dennis Akos)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Re: MAC LC 4/40 for sale
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:19:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <1992Jul30.194637.7219@wam.umd.edu> huichuan@wam.umd.edu (Hui-Chuan Yen) writes:
>
>Macintosh LC
>o 4MB RAM
>o 40MB HD
>o 12" Apple color monitor
>o standard keyboard
>o mouse
>o System 7.0 disks ( 6 )
>o Hypercard disk ( 1 )
>o Manuals : User Guide,	Getting	Start, Hypercard Basic,	Color Monitor Owner's
>	    Guide.
>o Power	Cord
>o ADB cable
>o unregistered Warranty	cards :	LC & 12" color monitor
>o Original packing & boxes
>
>I will also throw in a "Kraft joystick"	with it.
>
>The system was pruchased in Nov.  , 1991. I have all the purchase documentation.
>It still has 3 month warranty with it. It is very hard used and	looks like new.
>Not even a scratch on it.
>
>All these orginal everthing for	a MAC LC system	can be your for	only total
>$1399. I will take care	of S&H fee. I will mail it via UPS Ground Service
>+ COD. 

 Or if Color isn't important to you, I'll Sell you my Mac LC 4/80, 
                                                               ^^
12" Apple Monochrome, with all of the above (no joystick though) plus
a Math Coprocessor for the same price. $1399, I'll pay shipping,
e-mail, if your interested.



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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Subject: Upgrading an OLD TANDY 1000SX
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:50:42 GMT

Here I am, reading this newschannel, and wondering.

I have a Tandy 1000SX with the oldies and the willies in it. Just how can I
upgrade this momma to the faster 386SX series? I noticed that some of the
sales in here include motherboards. Can I rip out my motherboard in my
CPU unit and replace it with a faster one? And if so, how much and how risky
can it be?

All information appreciated by EMAIL and on this newschannel as well.


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From: tching@target.water.ca.gov (Tracy Ching <SysAdmin>)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: -----***** Weltec 1.2M drive for 360K drive system forsale *****-----
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:14:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: cdwr


	Weltec's 1.2M floppy drive that works on 360K controllers - 
It can read, write, and format a 1.2M floppy BUT it can't make it
bootable.  It uses a device driver loaded in the config.sys.  Comes
with original software from Weltec.  I used it in my XT for a couple
of years and have sat on it for about a couple more. Mfr'd circa 1987.
Good for XT's - I wouldn't put it in a 286 or higher.  I'd like to
get $40 for it.  If that seems way outta line, please skip over this.
If it seems high, make an offer.  $10 offers > /dev/null.  Make it worth
my while to package it and get it to the post office.  Thanks
tching@water.ca.gov
Xref: sparky misc.forsale.computers:27408 misc.wanted:7247
From: skitchen@pilot.njin.net (Scott Kitchen)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers,misc.wanted
Subject: WANTED: Used IBM Compatible System
Keywords: Wanted, IBM Compatible, Mouse, CGA/EGA, 2400+ bps modem
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:37:45 GMT
Followup-To: misc.forsale.computers
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi, everyone.  I'm sick of monochrome, and I've got too much stuff I
want to do in color.  Therefore, I'm looking for a new home computer
system. 

Minimum requirements:
	IBM Compatible
	Mouse 
	Color monitor + EGA (preferred) or CGA graphics or better
	2400 bps or better modem
	40 Meg Hard Drive or better
	3.5 and 5.25 floppies

Unnecessary requirements:
	Printer (got one)
	Other software (got all I need unless you're offering)
	
I'll make offers depending on the system available.  Bear in mind that
I do have a monetary limit, so anything over $1000 is pretty much out
of reach.  If you can offer me a system with the above parameters at
that price, let's talk.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Scott
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From: grs00173@stat.appstate.edu (Shannon R. Adams)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Want to buy Sega games
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:41:38 EDT
Organization: Appalachian State University


	I just bought a Sega Master System and am looking for games
to buy.  I would also like to buy a cartridge or two for my brother's
Genesis.  I would prefer Sports games for the Genesis.  Please e-mail
me with what you have and an asking price.  Thanks in advance!

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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: patchen@chemvx.tamu.edu (Don Patchen : Grading Director)
Subject: >>> IBM PS/2 60MB HARD DRIVE FOR SALE <<<
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Freshman Chemistry Department : Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:03:00 GMT


Howdy,

	I have an IBM PS/2 60MB hard drive for sale.  This drive is out of a
55sx and is about 1.5 years old.  It is in perfect shape and has only been in
one machine.

Some info :

P/N	6128255 60MB
FRU P/N	6128282
MLC	C27850
MODEL	WD-387T
	(Straight from the label)

Reason For selling :  I just upgraded to a 120MB hard drive.  :)

Asking 250 dollars, negotiable.  (within reason)

	Please e-mail any responses to patchen@chemvx.tamu.edu

Thanks in advance.

Don

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: conserv@wam.umd.edu (Carl)
Subject: Apple ][e
Originator: conserv@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:13:14 GMT

The following items are for sale
   
   Apple Monitor ][ with manual ll
   Apple 5.25" Drive with manual (not the old Disk ][ model)
   Apple Disk Drive interface card
   Apple 80 column text card with manual
   Apple ][ Super Serial Card with manual
   
   AppleWorks (with all manuals)
   Bank Street Writer Plus w/ Dictionary/thesaurus (with user's manual)
   Proterm V2.2 (no docs)
   Apple Access ][ (no docs)
   Mastertype

The above software and hardware comes from an Apple ][e with a bad logic
board.  Although, I am willing to sell that in addition to some 
accessories and games if someone wants to purchase the whole system.

Any offer above $100 will be considered.

carl blake
conserv@wam.umd.edu

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From: wangs@chile.crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Okidata Microline 192 Printer forsale!!!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:58:53 GMT
Reply-To: wangs@chile.crd.ge.com ()
Distribution: na
Organization: General Electric Corp. R&D, Schenectady, NY


	The printer is several years old but I replaced its print head
approximately 1 year ago (cost me $90!!)  I am ready to move on and
will sale it for $100 OBO.
	This is a 9-pin printer and it does not take up a lot of space.
It is much smaller than the average Panasonic 9 pin printers.  With
Adobe Type Manger, my documents look great with this printer!

Shou Wang	
 
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: kgchang%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu 
Subject: Software for sale
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:20:55 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa


Software :

 (1). Excel 3.0 (with registration card, can upgrade to 4.0)    $ 89

Games :

 (1). Cooperation 						$ 20
 (2). Earl Weaver Baseball II					$ 20
 (3). Hoverforce						$ 15
 (4). Das Boot							$ 15
 (5). Drakkhen							$ 15
 (6). Centurion							$ 15
 (7). Fountain of Dream						$ 10
 (8). It came from the earth					$ 10

All price not include S/H

If youare interested in any item, please email me back. Thanks.

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: kskapin@csws8.ic.sunysb.edu (Keith T Skapinski)
Subject: Re: Hard Drive by Conner 120Mb, new or with SOFTWARE!
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:04:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.174251.132@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cdonnell@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chris E Donnell) writes:
>I have a new in the shrinkwraped box 120Mb drive made by Conner, model number 
>CNR120Mb.  It is an IDE drive.  I would like to get $350 for it.  This includes
>any or all of the following software installed if wanted.  Price $375 with OS/2
>because it takes about 40 minutes to install.
>
>A.  OS/2 2.0
>B.  Dos 5
>C.  Windows 3.1
>D.  Word Perfect for windows 5.1
>E.  Word for windows 2.0
>F.  Lotus for windows
>G.  Page Maker 4.0
>H.  Harvard Graphics 3.0 DOS
>I.  Stacker or SuperStor, doubles the hard drive 240Mb.
>J.  Games: Wolfenstein 3D all episodes, Chuck Yeagers Air Combat, F117A, Aces 
>of the Pacific, The latest D&D version,
>
>If this interests you, let me know.  As of now, the drive is still in the box
>and unformatted.


I assume that if someone bought this and got the software installed, that they
would also get the original disks and manuals. (not illegal pirated copies)
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: jalegre@tsp.med.umn.edu (John Alegre)
Subject: 19200 PEP Modem for sale.
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:04:33 GMT

############################################################

		For Sale
		
		Ventel EC18k-34 19200 baud modem.
		PEP protcol
		
		New, In Box
		
		$275.00
		
		reply via email to:
		alegrej@andante.mn.org
		
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John N. Alegre
Andante Systems

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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: jeremyz@arbd0.larc.nasa.gov (Jeremy D. Zawodny)
Subject: 4x9 80ns SIMMS  $200.00
Originator: jeremyz@arbd0.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:34:18 GMT


2 4x9 80ns SIMMS for sale

$200.00 + shipping

419-385-7271 or E-Mail

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: smb@col.hp.com (Sam Bauer)
Subject: Re: >>PC Game: Kings Quest V (CDROM)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:02:16 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Thanks for the responses, its gone.
-Sam
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Scott Golby)
Subject: 2400/MNP/v42bis WANTED...
Summary: Looking for the price on some modems
Keywords: Modem Supra v42bis v.42bis
Organization: University of Western Sydney
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:16:26 GMT

     Hi there, I'm just lining up myself a v32bis modem for my
BBS and I think my backup 1200/75, 300 bps modem that I have, is
just a Little SLOW...  :)
     So I have been thinking, with all these dropping prices and
all, that it might be a good idea to upgrade the old backup modem
as well.  2400 will do and one of those v42bis models would be
real nice as the phone lines out this way aren't so hot and I
could do with the MNP and v42.
     So, anyone have one of thes for sale?   Whats the price?
Anyone suggest some places to mail order one from, and roughly
what prices they are going for?

     Thanks,                                     Scott.


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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers,ba.market.computers
From: tiger@netcom.com (Tiger Zhao)
Subject: Cheapest Place on Math Coprocessors
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 22:00:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Cyrix, Math co, 486CPU


>Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:34
>Kevin T. Smith: >>Cyrix Math Coprocessors
>I want to buy a math coprocessor for my 386-40. What kind should I
>get,
>and where could I purchase them?
>HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING A CYRIX MATH COPROCESSOR?

>If anyone could help me, please mail me email at
>ktsmith@cebafi.cebaf.gov .
>Thanks,
>Kevin T. SMith

     I have bought some Math coprocessors from Athena Micro 
Systems, and their price were very good, actuarially  the 
lowest I ever found in the market.

But wait, If you are spending your money on  your  existing 
386DX33 system by adding a math co., consider this option:  
still use the same 386DX motherboard you already have, and just 
replace the 386/33 CPU (Intel or AMD) with a Cyrix 486DLC-33MHz 
CPU (for $165) which is 386DX CPU pin compatible, it will give 
you 486 performace. If you are ready to spend a little more, 
add on a Cyrix 87DLC-33 math coprocessor they (486DLC+387DLC) 
will be equivalent as a Intel 486-33.  The cost of Cyrix 486DLC-33 
CPU TOGETHER with a Cyrix 387DLC math co is $235.00. The 
differences between Intel 486/33 and Cyrix 486DLC-33 + 387DLC-33 
would be:

CPU type    Intel 80486/33       Cyrix 486DLC-33+387DLC-33
Price            $365.00                   $235.00
Landmark    v2.0  111MHz                   $107MHz
Cache     8k internal cache           1k internal cache

  
Math Coprossor   IIT             ULSI            CYRIX

83D87-40        95.00            85.00
83D87-33        85.00            75.00           80.00
83D87-25        75.00            70.00           75.00
83S87-25        70.00            65.00           65.00           

above price are from Athena Micro Systems Inc. 
Phone:1-415-962-8686

Elkco also have very competitive price: 
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PC Week, July 27,1992, page 121, ad for ELKCO (1-800-243-5526),

>CYRIX
>    83D87-40  $108
>    83D87-33  $ 85
>    83D87-25  $ 85
>    83S87-25  $ 68
From: wgs1@ra.msstate.edu (Walter G. Seefeld)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Re: NEW CYRIX COPROCESSOR 387/40 prices
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:00:39 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

In article <cee1.711948919@Isis.MsState.Edu> cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans) writes:
>In my last post, I implied a 387/25 was 80 bucks, no
>
>a 387/40 is 80 bucks... top that.
>
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>Charles E. Evans           /  o     / Whereforeseeingwealsoarecompassedabout
>cee1@ra.msstate.edu       / ./|\   / withsogreatacloudofwitnesses,letuslayaside
>		         /   /|'  / everyweight,andthesindothsoeasilybesetus,
>cee1@msstate.bitnet     /    , ' / andletusRUNwithpatiencetheracethatissetB4us.

This gentleman has been claiming that I gave him this information.
I did make some (careless) comments in a personal conversation which led
Charles to indulge in this one-upmanship on a public net.

I am not responsible for anything Charles says, and he is not authorized
to represent me in any way.

I am sorry if I have inadvertently caused any confusion.

Walter Seefeld


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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Subject: Atari computers + peripherals (8 bit) FOR SALE
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:03:57 GMT

1 Atari 800
2 Atari 800XLs
1 Atari 400 (64k, full stroke keyboard)
2 Atari 1050 disk drives
1 Percom disk drive
1 Atari 410
1 Atari 1030
1 Atari XM301
1 Atcom AT826 (// printer interface)
1 Prowriter printer
 
lots of software (disks + carts)

make an offer

Michael Nelson
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers