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From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Tax evasion!!
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:05:07 GMT

In article <BzMnKn.363@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> sdfinuca@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Sean Finucane) writes:
>Boy, that subject line should send the spies reeling!!
>
>I'm wondering about juggling as a business.  I do computer consulting for 
>different companies, until now under my own name.  I have decided
>to register a company name, since it will, it appears, give me lots
>of good tax breaks (e.g. my new computer will be owned by the company,
>not me, so I may get some breaks and so on)
>
>Does this kind of thing hold up for juggling?  Does anybody do it.
>While I haven't made much money yet from my juggling, (or any really)
>nnnnI can see it happening soon.  Does this mean that I could, if I declared
>said income, write off my props?  I can just imagine an auditor looking
>at an expense sheet for a $150 unicycle and $250 for 5 balls!!
>
>I'm registering anyways, so I thought I'd ask how far I can take this.

At this point you should probably treat juggling as a "personal
business", i.e., not incorporate.  You can still do up an income
statement, claiming the appropriate expenses, and if in some years the
business LOSES money, you can deduct that straight off of your income.

The big reasons to incorporate are:

a) To be able to play certain tax juggling games (NOT simply the
deductions you talk about - you can claim those without there being a
corporation.  I'm thinking of other more complex procedures, like
dividend/salary splitting),

and

b) To be able to limit your liability.  (From whence comes the term
"Limited Corporation".)

I can't think of anything related to juggling that relates very much
to a) and b) (other than some bad puns :-)).  I'd suggest that you
have a chat with your favorite tax accountant before you consider
incorporating the juggling business.

-- 
Christopher Browne                |     PGP 2.0 key available
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca           |===================================
University of Ottawa              |  The Personal Computer:  Colt 45
Master of System Science Program  |  of the Information Frontier
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: traal@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Brian Phillips)
Subject: Moving from 3 balls (objects, whatever) to 4.
Organization: Great White North/UPLink
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 12:28:40 GMT

Well, after 10+ years of 3-balls/hula hoops/pieces of fruit/bean bags/
spatulas, et cetera, I've finally graduated to 4.  No, all you 4-object
wannabes, it's not THAT hard, I just never sat down and decided to learn
how to do 4, like I did when I taught myself 3.  But, last week I made
four square bean bags (with real beans), and then taught myself a few
4-object tricks.

On to the learning part:

I could do two objects in my right hand masterfully.
I could do two objects in my left hand skillfully.
I could not perform the two feats synchronously, asynchronously, or at all.

This went on for several days, then two days ago everything started working.
4-bag columns, asynchronous 2-bag showers in each hand, and the like.  I am
disappointed that I didn't bother to learn beyond 3 before this.  Now I am
contemplating cutting another bag or two of material out of that old pair
of jeans...

Just wanted to share that success story with you all!

:)


  --Traal the BRAVE 
-- 
  EMAIL (the Good, the Bad, or the Flame) to:  traal@lopez.marquette.MI.US
   "Take a walk through the looking-glass and see the other side!" -- BPP
            "Realism is often misconstrued as pessimism." -- BPP
          "My mailer hates everybody, be sneaky." -- Mary Margret
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: markt@harlqn.co.uk (Mark Tillotson)
Subject: Re: Unicycle
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
	<1992Dec22.135447.11985@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:32:11 GMT

gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen) writes:
> 	Look at your peddles .. they are labled near where they are
> screwed onto the crank.  If you have the seat facing the wrong way, or
> if you sit on it backwards you can unscrew the peddles.

Isn't it the other way round, the pedals _should_ naturally unscrew in
the direction of pedaling, so that if a pedal-bearing jams solid, it
is going to unscrew rather than break your ankle.  (Well, the
principle comes from fixed-gear racing bikes with tow-clips or bolt-on
shoes...)

------------------------------------------------------
|\  /|          | ,  M. Tillotson       Harlequin Ltd. \
| \/ |  /\| |/\ |<   markt@uk.co.harlqn  Barrington Hall,\
|    |  \_| |   | \  +44 223 872522       Barrington,      \
I came, I saw, I core-dumped...            Cambridge CB2 5RG \

Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: me@Sunburn.stanford.edu (Martin Frost)
Subject: Passing Patterns: Both Hand Passing: 7 clubs PPS
To: PHY5JBB@phys-irc.novell.leeds.ac.uk
Reply-To: me@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: rec
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:56:40

Despite what Ed Carstens said about the difficulty of the patterns he
proposed as solutions to the question of a 2P7C PPS pattern (two People,
seven Clubs, pass-pass-self), I think there is a fairly easy solution.

If you read the Spring 1991 Juggler's World, you will find the seven-club
3-count, which is almost exactly the same.  All we do is turn one self
of each person into a pass (hence PSS (3-count) becomes PPS).


We're passing with both hands here, with two out of three releases being
passes, for each juggler, and all the passes are doubles.  One person
throws only diagonal passes (R to R and L to L), and the other person
throws only straight passes (R to L and L to R).  Unlike Ed's patterns,
this is completely symmetric, except for the difference between diagonal
and straight passes.

Numbers in parentheses below represent the event time in counts.

The person with four clubs starts (count 1.0) by throwing (say from the R)
to partner's hand that has TWO clubs (say to the L hand).  The partner
responds 1/2 count later (count 1.5) by doing a normal single self (from
the hand that had two, naturally -- the L here).

Then the first juggler (count 2.0) make the second pass (from L) to the
partner's other hand (the R), and then the partner (count 2.5) makes a pass
from the second hand (the R) to the first juggler's first passing hand (the
R).

The first juggler then (count 3.0) does a self (from R to L), and the
partner (count 3.5) responds with a second pass (from L to L) 1/2 count
later.

Then repeat from count 1.0, reversing left and right.

You can start without verbally deciding who will make diagonal and who
straight throws.  Whichever person has four clubs starts by throwing to the
hand that has two clubs -- that first throw determines whether the starting
person throws all diagonals or all straights.  That first person proceeds
later with a second pass and then the self.  The partner responds to the
initial pass with a self and then with a pass back to the starting hand and
then with a pass to the other hand.

As you can imagine, having turned PSS into PPS, you can now take one more
step and turn PPS into PPP -- a 7-club 1-count.


Turns out that the 7-club 3-count is relatively (that's the the key word)
easy with doubles, but it is VERY fast and syncopated (fun!) with singles.
I reckon 7-club PPS is quite reasonable with doubles and quite hairy with
singles.  Strangely enough, the 7-club 1-count rhythm is even with singles,
though slower of course with doubles.
--
Martin Frost		Computer Science Department, Computer Facilities
Systems Programmer	Stanford University, Stanford, CA  94305-2140
me@CS.Stanford.EDU	(or mfrost@stanford.bitnet)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: Juggling Clubs
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 18:53:30 GMT

>
>So... I propose that all of you folks should list your local club and 
>either a phone or E-mail Contact name. 
>
>
>Next...

Tallahassee Juggling Club
Sundays at 4pm on the Union Green of Florida State University
(across from the heath center and the swimming pool)
Contact: Gregory Cohen 574-6824 or Jon Lyons 681-3879

-GReg Cohen
gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
From: celarier@reed.edu (Stuart Celarier)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Juggling Clubs
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:43:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec30.194334.23760
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <29DEC199213064131@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>  
femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS) writes:
> ... list your local club and either a phone or E-mail Contact name.
> ...
> Next...

"No Problem, Easy Pickup" Portland Jugglers
Meet every Wednesday evening, 7-9 p.m.
Reed College Sports Center
Portland, Oregon

Contact Stuart Celarier, coordinates below.  If you happen to be in Portland on  
a day other than Wednesday, give a call and we'll see if we can rustle up some  
jugglers.

       W I N T E R  S C H E D U L E  A B N O R M A L I T I E S
We will NOT be meeting Wedensday, December 30, since the heat will be off.
All other Wednesdays are happening.

--
Stuart Celarier		"No Problem, Easy Pickup" Portland Jugglers
celarier@reed.edu	PO Box 82842
503/331-1877		Portland, Oregon 97282
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: grego@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Ostravich)
Subject: Re: Juggling Clubs
Organization: USWEST Marketing Resources
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:21:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.185330.12230@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen) writes:
>>
>>So... I propose that all of you folks should list your local club and 
>>either a phone or E-mail Contact name. 
>>
>>
>>Next...
>
>Tallahassee Juggling Club
>Sundays at 4pm on the Union Green of Florida State University
>(across from the heath center and the swimming pool)
>Contact: Gregory Cohen 574-6824 or Jon Lyons 681-3879
>
>-GReg Cohen
>gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu

The Colorado Throwing Up Society: A Denver area juggling club
Wednesdays at 8:20 pm at the Sunset Beach Healt & Fitness Club in Golden
Admission is $2.00 - sign-in at the desk on the footbag club/juggling club sheet
The address is 2650 Alkire St. and it's off the Youngsfield Exit off I-70.
If you need further directions, or have any questions, please contact:

    Greg Ostravich (H) 303-791-7155 (W) 303-784-2843 grego@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com

    or 

    Rich Munoz (H) 986-7939

-- 
Greg Ostravich - grego@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com
Member of The Colorado Throwing Up Society: A Denver area juggling club
Throw up 'till you drop!           Hurl 'till you hurl!
Juggle 'till you puke!             Come throw up with us!
From: juggler@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Michael Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Juggling Clubs
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:43:42 GMT
Organization: Columbia University, Biological Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Dec29.201335.20714@sparky.imd.sterling.com> marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:
>In article <29DEC199213064131@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS) writes:
>>
>>So... I propose that all of you folks should list your local club and 
>>either a phone or E-mail Contact name. 
>>

The Columbia University Juggling Club (Kings Court Jugglers)
in wonderful New York City
meets every Sunday @ 4:00 pm at the Barnard Gym (Broadway @ 117th street)

e-mail Ajay at akd4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

or Michael at JUGGLER@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu
	      phone (212) 866-9712

         


coolness.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: jimd@psg.com (Jim Dorman)
Subject: Re: Videos are HERE!
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:40:44 GMT

In <1992Dec17.161642.22146@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> garys@iscp.bellcore.com (Gary Seubert) writes:

[stuff deleted]

> to get a few of the "best" tapes that qualify as Jim's kind of tape --- just
> good juggling.  Can anyone offer a "buyer's guide" that gives a critique
> of the available tapes (other than the blurbs in JW that say they are ALL great
> and worth the money) so people like myself can at least spend our money
> wisely?

Well, who better than me to suggest tapes that I like (g>?  With that, here's
a brief overview of the tapes available now:
	
	1988:  The first real video (there was one in 1984, which I have, but
	the quality is very poor and I doubt that real copies are around.
	It is fun, however, to see Dan Bennett and others way back when...)
	Anyway, on to the tape.  This is a good overview of the ideas and
	some brief history of conventions and how we got to the kinds of
	conventions we have now.  Good performances from The Phillipine
	Pride Jugglers, The Gizmo Guys, Peter Davison, and others.  The
	video and sound quality is good also.  Special interest items:
	A great montage for Club Renegade, and watching Waldo throw knives
	at Robert Nelson.  I recommend this one.

	Airborne! (1989):  Ok, but not the greatest.  The move toward the
	more "artistic" side wasn't so hot, but getting Anthony on tape
	doing 7 torches was worth something.  Overall, this one is pretty
	weak.  If you're not a junkie like me, you can skip this one.

	1990:  First year for the "real" 2-tape stuff.  The highlights
	tape is ok, but it had a tendency to drag a little bit.  The 
	championships tape is superb, however.  The juggling is good and
	the video quality is excellent.  This is a good choice.

	1991:  This is the best highlights tape in recent times.  It's
	a good overview, covers the important stuff well, and I like the
	way the narration is done and combined with the images.  The
	Club Renegade stuff suffers from poor video quality, as do the
	staged events, but then, it wasn't much of a stage compared with
	other years, so it's not that bad.  The highlights tape is good,
	but the quality isn't that grand, as mentioned above.  The best
	part of the championships tape, IMO, is Tuey Wilson's club 
	swinging routine to Eddie Van Halen's "Eruption".  Good stuff.

I hope that helps.  For more details, email me.


	
> Also, I had heard at the Philadelphia convention that Gulko's tie act was
> HYSTERICAL and had people practically rolling in the aisles with laughter.
> If that's true, how could it possibly have been omitted?

Search me.  Maybe Gulko didn't want someone to steal it?  Who knows?  The
point is, it's a pity that it's not there, it IS hysterically funny.

And, just in case I don't get back in the newsroom beforehand, Merry
Xmas and Happy New Year to everyone, and I'll see some of you soon in Vegas!


Jim the Juggler, a.k.a.:  jimd@m2xenix.psg.com
From: amasss@vet.purdue.edu (Sandra Amass)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Airfare to Vegas
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:21:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University SVM
Originator: amasss@vet.vet.purdue.edu

If you are flting to Vegas on Continental, you might
want to call the airline to see if the cost of your
airfare has been reduced. Even if you have already paid
for the tickets you can get the reduced rate and you will
be refunded the difference. It is worth the call.
Our tickets went from $400 to $257. Just wanted to
let ya know. If you went through Eager Travel
they will take care of it for you if you notify them.

San-D
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: tjj@thumper..bellcore.com (J Tim Jordan)
Subject: Re: Roller Board
Reply-To: tjj@thumper.UUCP (J Tim Jordan)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:27:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.050534.23924@genie.slhs.udel.edu> nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz) writes:
>Thanks very much to the person who said that I could get a roller
>board from Klutz--it arrived yesterday, and I'm already occasionally
>steady on it. 

Nancy,
I hope you enjoy your roller board. I've had one now for about a
year. I can now balance on it while balancing one of my clubs
on my nose. I think the roller boards are great! Soon you should 
be able to stand on yours with your hands in you pockets. I can not
yet stand on mine with one foot but I can with both feet together.
This may sound a little dangerious but once I fell off it while
standing with my feet together, and the only thing that flew
was the board and roller. Me I stayed where I was except I was 
on the ground still standing. Good luck.
Tim
From: celarier@reed.edu (Stuart Celarier)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Seeking Support for Juggling at Clinton's Inaugural Parade
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:21:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec22.232135.11171
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I have just learned that a group of thirteen grade school kids from Eugene,  
Oregon, has recently been selected to juggle in Clinton's Inaugural Parade.   
They are the only group from Oregon to be going, and will be the youngest group  
participating in the parade.  Now they are eagerly trying to raise funds to  
cover their airfare, room and board for the trip to Washington, D.C.

The children are from Corridor Alternative School, and they have had a juggling  
program at their school for ten years.  They have performed at EXPO and with  
the Flying Karamazov Brothers, and have put on shows to raise money for  
organizations such as the Children's Relief Nursery, United Way and Easter  
Seals.  Their program has been recognized by the State of Oregon and the US  
Department of Education for educational excellence, and by the Kennedy Center  
for the Arts for promoting arts education.

Now they need your help.  Thirteen jugglers will be flying to Washington, D.C.  
January 17, and returning January 21.  The estimated budget for travel and  
accommodations is $12,000.  They will be juggling in the Inaugural Parade on  
January 20, and hope to meet with the Clinton and Gore children to teach them  
to juggle.  Good luck, kids!

I am certain that they would be grateful for any contributions, no matter how  
large or how small.  Please show your support.  Donations can be sent to their  
school:

	Corridor School Jugglers
	Corridor Alternative School
	250 Silver Lane
	Eugene, Oregon  97404
	
I would be happy to answer any questions and pass on any email responses to  
their coach and head teacher, Mike Garling, or you can contact him at the  
school (after Christmas break) at (503)687-3165.

Thanks for helping out and supporting juggling!
Stuart
--
Stuart Celarier		"No Problem, Easy Pickup" Portland Jugglers
celarier@reed.edu	PO Box 82842
503/331-1877		Portland, Oregon 97282
From: jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: practice - improving consistancy
Date: 3 Jan 93 14:09:40 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

I am a 3-ball practising juggler (at the moment) - have
just got to do Mills' Mess, & a few other simple tricks.
I tend to practice 10-15 mins a day or so, and am constantly
improving. I get the impression that I lack consistancy
in my juggling - eg, I would still take a few tries to
do, say, a 3-ball cascade 100 times.

Has anyone out there any tips on practice methods to improve my
consistancy? 

	thanks
		john N

-- 
john nicoll (jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk)
Department of Electronics  University of York
Heslington   YORK YO1 5DD U.K
Tel +44 (904) 433221   Fax +44 (904) 432335
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: maize@bragg.bio.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: Madfest
Reply-To: maize@bragg.bio.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University, Dept. of Biological Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:57:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.172608.26658@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, lcaselli@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa A Caselli) writes:
>
>
>Does anyone have info on Madisons Juggling fest, Madfest.  I need days,
>times, and cost.  Also, are there any good skiing places in the area?
>I want to go and juggle for a day and ski for a day.
>
>Thanks,
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Lisa A. Caselli			 o_/    \    /    \_o
>   lcaselli@en.ecn.purdue.edu		 |\  \          /  /|
>					/ \                / \
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------------

  I don't know much about the skiing.  But the fest is Saturday, January 
16th and Sunday, January 17th in the Memorial Union at 800 Langdon St (at 
the University of Wisconsin, Madison.)
  Cost is $2.  Probably the best place to stay is at the Memorial Union.
Phone (608)262-1583 to reserve a room (have that credit card ready.  It 
should cost $45/night.)  Also there may still be floor space available 
with the festival coordinators

Mark Hayward & Matt Henry, 507 W. Main St. #1 Madison WI 53703-2631,
				(608)251-6839
Melonhead, 616 Glenwood St., Madison, WI 53711, (608) 233-9652

  See you there!

_______________________________________________________________________
Phillip SanMiguel               Purdue
maize@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu       Institute for
                                  Molecular    "We'll do anything
  Bennetzen Lab                    Plant          for funding."
                                    Science
_______________________________________________________________________
From: andrewt@scrooge.cs.wisc.edu (Andrew Thomas-cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: A Wonderful Wife...
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:20:43 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <Bzz76u.DrB@cmptrc.lonestar.org> mitch@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Mitch Veenstra) writes:
>well, Christmas is passed.  I have a wonderfull wife in that she knew exactly
>what to get me.  For I am now the proud owner of 3 juggling clubs.  and have spent
>most of the weekend trying to figure them out.
>

     I too, have a wonderful wife, who got me torches. 11 p.m. Christmas Eve
     night, sub-freezing temperature and a bitter wind, no jacket, no gloves,
     just me and my new torches in the front yard. Hard to get fingers to
     work in the cold, but the torches warmed me a little. There's nothing
     like flaming pins to impress others and yourself. The whoosh of the
     flame spinning by is exhilarating!


>just a note to anybody who's trying 3 ball tricks and 4 ball at all.  once you
>try clubs for a few days, you'll find that your ball tricks are even firmer than ...

     I've learned 4-ball in the past semester (what else would I do in my
     first semester of grad school?). I've noticed that time seems 
     slower now. Either the gravitational constant has changed, the Earth's
     mass has decreased, or my brain is working quicker.
From: ke94002@black.ox.ac.uk (Daniel J Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Torches (care of)
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:01:14 GMT
Organization: Oh, come /on/..
Originator: ke94002@black


 Is there any particular recommended way to stop juggling torches?
I've read the 'torches' file on piggy, but that stops at the 'douse
in the paraffin' stage -- after that, what? Currently, I'm just
washing them with swarfega (oil-removing goop, for the soot) and
water, and storing them in a plastic bag (to avoid making the
entire area around them smell of paraffin too offensively). Is
there anything special I should be doing? Do the wicks need
rinsing, or are they safe to just leave? And so on..

 Thanks.

--
Daniel Mitchell == ke94002@black.ox.ac.uk == bi furry juggler
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