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From: sar@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Simon Ritchie)
Subject: request for disc distribution of 386 BSD
Followup-To: simonr@ncp.gpt.co.uk
Organization: GPT Ltd, England
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:55:57 GMT

	I am trying to get hold of 386 BSD, but I do not have access
	to  anonymous FTP.  Is anybody out there set up to supply a
	distribution on floppy discs?

	Please reply by email.  (JANET users please use the
	alternative address below.)

	Thanks

	Simon


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	these sites must use simonr%gptncp.uucp@uknet
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: hell@desert.in-berlin.de (Steffen Hellwig)
Subject: 386BSD hangs
Organization: Private Site
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 19:10:00 GMT

Hallo world.
I've some problems running 386BSD on my 386 40MHZ with an ADAPTEC 1542A
I've installed 386BSD sucsessfully on a Fujutsu M2624FA SCSI Disk and every 
thinks works fine.
But sometimes, most often during heavy disk-io, the machine hangs without
any comments.

Anyone else noticed that strange thing?

Bye.
-- 
hell@desert.in-berlin.de (Steffen Hellwig)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: An overview of 17" monitors
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:37:03 GMT
Organization: The World


I suspect what will drop the price of higher resolution monitors will
be the emergence of a consumer HDTV market. Until then they are a
curio built only for a relatively small and specialized market.

It will be amusing when the day comes when we go back to those little
TV adapters (change to channel 3) just like the old Timex/Sinclair and
Atari.

Ok, maybe not quite, but ya never know (``19" Color! Cable Ready! XGA
Ready!  1280x1024! And our prices are INSANE!!!'')

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: backup w/ compression for UN*X?
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:58:28 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

terry@thisbe.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) writes:
: In article <1992Sep3.015437.15379@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> paoletti@cps.msu.edu (David R. Paoletti) writes:
: >Does anyone know of any software for UN*X, 386BSD or otherwise,
: >that does on-the-fly compression?  Thinking of looking into
: >writing my own, or getting some 386BSD people together to help,
: >as soon as I get my new machine built with enough HD space to
: >re-compile 386BSD...  This would be really nice for people with
: >floppies, or even people who want to save on tapes.
: 
: ctar (LoneStar software, I believe... Hi guys!)
: 
: Doesn't gnutar support -z (LZW compression)?
Cannot do multi-volume, at least the 386bsd one. The reason is due to
the fact that it gnu tar just pipes it through compress, instead of
incorporating it before the multivolume archiving.
	The trick is to call the compress before the archiving.
Maybe

tar cvf - | compress | tar cvOMf /dev/rfd0a

"however cO is not a valid option" only "xO"

maybe we can use mkfifo, but I have never managed to make mkfifo work.

mkfifo fifo
(tar cvzf fifo) | (tar cvMf /dev/rfd9a fifo)

Any ideas?

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: kilroy@mik.uky.edu (Paul S. Kilroy)
Subject: What is included in the ectdist directoy?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:04:53 GMT

Hi, 
  does anyone have a list of the files in the ectdist distribution?

thanks
paul
(kilroy@mik.uky.edu)
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                       -Paul   (kilroy@mik.uky.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper)
Subject: Re: time for comp.unix.bsd.386
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:00:31 GMT

peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

>In article <1992Aug27.093740.29039@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division) writes:
>>peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>>FWIW, if we're going to have a bunch of comp.os.unix-alike groups, then
>>>this should be comp.os.386bsd. I think it would be better to put the
>>>unix-alikes together in a common hierarchy, but for political reasons
>>>we shouldn't single out 386bsd as a special case.

>>comp.os.UNIX.386bsd

>>*craig screams loudly*

>Oh, we're at the screaming horror from the sewers of hell stage already,
>and the RFD hasn't even started?

>I was thinking more of comp.posix.*.

I still prefer comp.os.posix.bsd.*

So there

Peter
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Restrictions on free UNIX / 386BSD (Re: selling 386BSD)
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:53:22 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Aug25.062100.15187@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>>Software houses such as Lotus and Wordperfect want complete assurance that
>>their product is secure under the law when it goes out the door.  There is
>>no court record to show what happens when the buyer of a commercial software
>>product demands source from the author because it was compiled using GCC,
>>and should fall under the GNU Copyleft.  
>
>Hmm - I think I've heard that Commodore(-Amiga) uses gcc to compile
>their **ix OS and Lotus (yep, of the 1-2-3 and lawsuit fame) uses gcc
>to compile their products.  And then there's DG which ships gcc as the
>native compiler.


It would be a strange to build SVR4 with gcc.  Commodore probably started
out with a Motorola development system running SVR4, and a big pile of
sources.  They would have then hacked and cross-compiled a development
environment that would run on the Amiga 2500 and 3000.

I am one of those evil people who has been tainted by exposure to SVR4
sources, and I can tell you that they are very interesting.  There is C++
code in SVR4.  Since cfront is not included as part of the binary release,
they have included in the sources a subset of cfront to compile the small
amount of included C++ code.  After the C++ modules are compiled, the 
minimal cfront is deleted.  There are lots of other "cute" things like
this in the SVR4 source release.  So while it could probably be built
with gcc, there would probably be an enormous amount of makefile hacking
before it could be done.  

As far as I know, Commodore includes the AT&T /bin/cc as well as gcc.

I'm not sure about Lotus, but I have a friend who is a programmer there,
and I will check with them.

And I have no idea about DG.

If one wants to compile Mach, gcc would probably be the compiler of
choice, as I suspect that is what CMU uses for development.

After looking at the standard GPL and the GPL for the GNU libc.a, I can
see that there really aren't any problems with using gcc to compile 
copyrighted code.  But I would still be somewhat leery about developing
code on a system that relies on the GNU libc.a, as it's license is more
restrictive.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Xref: sparky comp.unix.bsd:5136 comp.unix.aix:9401
From: ben@rex.uokhsc.edu (Benjamin Z. Goldsteen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Where can I get BSD for the IBM RT
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:35:49 GMT
Reply-To: Benjamin Z. Goldsteen <benjamin-goldsteen@uokhsc.edu>
Organization: University of Oklahoma HSC, R&E Computing
Originator: usenet@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu


   We have an IBM RT that nobody uses.  It is running AIX 2.2.
This isn't quite adaquate.  According to TCSH, a HOSTTYPE of 
rt is an IBM RT running BSD 4.3 or Mach.  A HOSTTYPE of rtpc is
an AIX.  I infer from this that somebody has ported BSD 4.3 to
the IBM RT.  Where could I get this?

Thank you
Benjamin Z. Goldsteen
P.S.If AIX 3.2 is available for the RT, that would be OK, too.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: stripes@pix.com (Josh Osborne)
Subject: Re: An overview of 17" monitors
Organization: Pix Technologies -- The company with no adult supervision
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:36:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.061343@eklektix.com> rcd@raven.eklektix.com (Dick Dunn) writes:
[...17 inch monitor prices...]
>I don't know just what it is that keeps monitor prices so high.  (Conspiracy

I'm not a hardware guy, but at work we have no news so to keep busy I read
all sorts of stuff, like Eletronic Design mags.  The latest issue had a one
pager on high speed OpAmps, not knowing what one was I read it.  Apparently
they are used in most monitors, but because the fast ones are so costly the
bigger monitors settle for more slower speed OpAmps.  It went on to say that
a few places are about to release low-cost high-speed OpAmps.  This will
either lower the cost of large monitors, or increse someone's profits...
[.,..]
-- 
           stripes@pix.com              "Security for Unix is like
      Josh_Osborne@Real_World,The          Multitasking for MS-DOS"
      "The dyslexic porgramer"                  - Kevin Lockwood
We all agree on the necessity of compromise.  We just can't agree on
when it's necessary to compromise.       - Larry Wall
From: dana@me.chalmers.se (Dan Andersson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Patches for 386BSD
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:16:21 GMT

Hi there Netusers.

I've been looking thru this group for a while now and the first
questions re 386bsd seems to pop up again.

Is there anyone out there that have a list of the patches needed for 
386bsd to reach the different levels of functionality like>

Wich patches do i need to recompile and rebuild the kernel, and where do i 
find them?

Wich patches do i need to recompile and rebuild the kernel so it will be        
suitable for Xwindows?

There is maybe time to generate an 'Official unofficial patch-list'.

If you have a list regarding any or all of these items, pls post it to this 
group.
This will save the new 386BSD-users a lot of time and effort.


Rgds


Dan Andersson      ////       dana@theta.me.chalmers.se


Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (David Le Blanc)
Subject: Re: Text mode windows
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:55:26 GMT

raju@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daryanani) writes:


>Several weeks ago someone posted a question asking about doing text-mode 
>windows to run multiple processes under 386BSD (sorta like the virtual 
>terminals in SCO).  Unfortunately I didn't save the answers and have since 
>discovered my machine is not up to running X until it gets a major upgrade.  
>Could someone please let me know the file and where I can ftp it from?

Would you believe it comes at part of the distributions? (Src, or ETC I am
not sure, since they are no longer on-line) The program you are seeking
is known as 'screen'. Look in /usr/othersrc/public/screen/* or somewhere
near that.

>Thanks,
Cheers.

>Raju
>--
>Raju M. Daryanani
>raju@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:20:40 EDT
From: Mark Solsman <MHS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386bsd]: I have a DTC3290 am I SOL?

I picked up the tinybsd floppy, and tried booting it on my 486 EISA system.
Unfortunately, I have a DTC 3290 SCSI controler.. Is there any chance that I

will be able to run BSD on my hard drive? Has anyone successfully installed
it on their system?

Thanks
-----
Mark Solsman

The Pennsylvania State University  -  University Park, Pennsylvania
                "My opinions are not that of my own"
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: julian@tfs.com (Julian Elischer)
Subject: Date goes fwd by 1 day each boot.
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:29:12 GMT

Every time I boot, the date goes forward by 1 day

does anybody know what this is?

MACH had a similar problem when they got the leap year
calculation wrong, but the code here seems quite different.

does anybody have a fix for this?
I'm tired of changing the date back cefore I can edit any files.
(make gets highly confused)


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          v
From: pgilley@blancmange.ma.utexas.edu (Phil Gilley)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 386BSD 0.1 calendar
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:38:46 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin Mathematics

I can't seem to get calendar to work in 386BSD 0.1 (it won't produce
any output).  I looked at calendar.c and didn't see any obvious problems.
Does anyone have any ideas?  I don't pretend to be a unix wizard so it
may be something trivial.

-phil
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: anderson@zymurgy.bms.com (Jay Anderson)
Subject: limit on number of bad sectors that can be handled?
Organization: BMS Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:42:25 GMT

Is there a limit on the number of blocks that can me labeled bad by bad144?

I have 12 cylinders of 26 sectors (312 blocks) bad on my RLL disk.  When I run
bad144 -a -c wd0 block#, it keeps saying that the bad sector table contains duplicates.
However, bad144 never prints out a list containing the blocks that I entered :-(.

Any light on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Jay Anderson
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From: tj2n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tao Jiang)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386BSD]
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:48:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Qebs0Mi00WB9NgC1Er
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi, I want to use telnet or ftp connect my computer at home to
school, and I also have a SLIP address at school, how can I do it?
Can some one mail me the details.  I am runing 386bsd0.1 with X.

Thanks in advance!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C)
Subject: Re: WD7000-FASST2 SCSI?
Organization: Weber State University  (Ogden, UT)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 20:31:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.015113.20172@ctr.columbia.edu> vikki@e40-008-9.MIT.EDU (Vikki King) writes:
>Hi Everyone!
>
>	I'm all set to go out and get an Adaptec 1542B SCSI adapter or an
>AHA1740 to run in 1542 mode, but I thought I'd ask the net first if anyone's
>heard of any effort to write a 386BSD driver for the Western Digital
>WD7000-FASST2 SCSI adapter.  I'm using one now with Esix SvsV R3.2D and a big
>Maxtor disk.  I've never been overly thrilled by it though because there's no
>boot driver for it - I have to boot from an IDE disk and mount the Maxtor
>afterwards...  I feel like it might a good time to break down and get the
>Adaptec card, unless.....  Someone is working on a driver for the WD7000?  :-)
>Much thanks to all of you!

I'm in the midst of writing a driver for the Am33C93A Enhanced SCSI-Bus
Interface Controller.  This is *not* a commitment to finish it!  It is
being built to run under julian@tfs.COM (Julian Elischer's) modular SCSI
system, which is currently in alpha (not even beta yet).

Since I'm not using "Advanced mode" commands, it should run a WD7000-FASST2
with no problems (ie: it should be chip-compatable with the non-AMD device).


					Terry Lambert
					terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
					terry@icarus.weber.edu
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From: john@socrates.umd.edu (John VanAntwerp)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386bsd] Attaching to a network
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:45:50 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland University College


We just install R0.1 on a 486 DX with Intel's new 16 bit ethernet card.  The
problem is, we cannot get it to talk to the network.  Where can I get the
appropriate driver, and is there some documentation somewhere on where to
find the drivers/instructions?

Thanks!

						John
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386bsd] Virtual memory exhausted. Do I need more swap?
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:00:50 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

juengst@boss1.physik.uni-bonn.de (Henry G. Juengst) writes:
: 
: I'm sure it's a limit problem. Use csh to set 'ulimit -h' (as root) and
: 'ulimit' or 'limit -h' / 'limit' to set a acceptable limit. Then start your
: make again (as child process of the csh process).
: 

Most probably it is not. My problem disappeared when I installed Jolitz
bufpage patch, and 4 patches for buff-page &vm from Greenman.

I'm using bash.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: fpm@crash.cts.com (Frank Maclachlan)
Subject: 386BSD 0.1 pccons bug crashes system (w/ fix)
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 24 Aug 92 17:44:42 PDT
Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd
Keywords: 386BSD pccons

Greetings:

I was horrified whilst scrolling backwards in a file with the less
pager at my console when my 386BSD system suddenly rebooted.
Subsequent tests revealed that the system would crash whenever I
scrolled rapidly backwards through this file using less.

Most files won't cause the system to crash.  To demonstrate the failure,
do the the following (if you don't mind watching your system crash):

	hd /usr/mdec/bootwd >junk	# create a file
	less junk			# invoke less
	G				# go to the end of the file
	^B^B^B...			# rapid repeated control B's to
					#  scroll backwards

If you are running the standard console driver ('/sys/i386/isa/pccons.c'),
the system will probably crash.

The problem is caused by sput() in pccons being reentered while
processing escape sequences.  Sput(), however, is not reentrant; in
this particular case, the parameter to the scroll down code was being
modified resulting in the kernel being scrolled down (or somewhere).  :-(

My probably non-optimal fix to '/sys/i386/isa/pccons.c' is given below:


*** pccons.c.ORIG	Mon Aug 24 18:09:23 1992
--- pccons.c	Mon Aug 24 18:12:28 1992
***************
*** 344,353 ****
  	if (RB_LEN(&tp->t_out) == 0)
  		goto out;
  	c = getc(&tp->t_out);
! 	/*tp->t_state |= TS_BUSY;*/
  	splx(s);
  	sput(c, 0);
  	(void)spltty();
  	} while(1);
  out:
  	splx(s);
--- 344,354 ----
  	if (RB_LEN(&tp->t_out) == 0)
  		goto out;
  	c = getc(&tp->t_out);
! 	tp->t_state |= TS_BUSY;
  	splx(s);
  	sput(c, 0);
  	(void)spltty();
+ 	tp->t_state &= ~TS_BUSY;
  	} while(1);
  out:
  	splx(s);

-- Frank MacLachlan
From: david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (David Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386bsd] X windows crashes out leaving no screen!
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:44:58 GMT
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)

Thanks to the bus mouse patches, I have finally gotten X386 to work somewhat.

I have the following problems.

1) If I close one of the default shells which pops up, then X crashes out
   and returns me to my prompt.

2) The normal 'Exit' function does not work.

3) Whenever X386 leaves in this fashion, I end up with a BLACK screen with
   no display.

4) Often I type startx on the console, and when X is loaded, the keyboard 
   no longer works. (and stays that way.) I rebooted, and booting hung just
   after printing the 'npx0' line. I had to hit the power switch.

Are there any solutions to this? Is the next version ready enough for me
to test a copy?

Please???

Thanks.
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From: damon@netcom.com (Damon Skaggs)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.sources.wanted,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: lockd sources
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:37:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


I have having terrible problems slowness problems in lockd.  Is there
any PD implementation of lockd available to see if I can figure out 
what is going on?  BTW, does BSDI have lockd?


Damon Scaggs
damon@netcom.com
From: swade@ocf.berkeley.edu (Wade Shen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Mounting a SUN formatted HD with 386BSD
Date: 28 Aug 1992 20:00:07 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

I've got a Sun formatted SCSI drive with a LOT on info that I need
on it.  Is there any way that I can mount it under 386BSD?
The drive is SCSI as is my PC drive.  Are there any file
systm conflicts?  I would appreciate any help that you all may
be able to offer.

thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (David Le Blanc)
Subject: [386BSD] What and where is the latest X386 release?
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:28:26 GMT


> I have already ftp'd the files core-{bin,server,fonts,inc,lib,man}-1.0.3.tar.Z
> from agate.berkeley.edu to a fileserver at work.  How can I create a

Hey? Where are these? Are they a new X386 release? I can't find them on agate..

> Dennis
> allard@isi.edu
> (310)399-4740


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