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From: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA (Wes Garland)
Subject: Re: SATAN AND XANTH
Reply-To: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA
Organization: Terminal Velocity Kingston
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:05:53 GMT

In article 1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu, berry@ccsua.ctstateu.edu () writes:
>The incarnations is a great series to read,although on a pale horse was one
>of my favorite books i have to say that for love of evil is the number one
>book.Is evil going to fade from the world,now that satan's relatives all 
>hold positions of power in the world.Can we say that this series was about
>judgement day and the end of the world.
>  Piers anthony has i think three more books planned for this series.I know
>one is about nox and norton's child but the other two elude me.\
> Has any one started DEMONS DON'T DREAM the new trilogy in the XANTH series
> the other two being HARPY TIME AND GEIS OF THE GARGOYLE.Great book so far
>it has the potential of being the best out of the series..

Hmm, I haven't seen anything in my bookstore since _The_Colour_of_her_Panties.
What's the (c) date?  I finished tatham mound in Dec, even thought the (c)
date for it was Feb'93.. Oh, I can only afford softcover books. Is that the problem? :-)

Cheers,
Wes            

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: davidne@microsoft.com (David Nelson)
Subject: Piers Anthony Fan
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:00:13 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

I, too, am an avid fan of The Incarnations of Immortality series.
I was VERY happy that he went ahead and extened the series past the
original 5 books and included God and Satan. The only real drawback
to the series ( IMHO ) is that in the first five books the plot is
basically the same, only seen through different characters. It took
a bit of the suspense away from the series I thought. Other than this
little bit of criticism, I thoroughly enjoyed the series.



Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: apash@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Yet another fan
Reply-To: apash@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:12:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.041727.11321@news.columbia.edu>, etb@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Elam T Birnbaum) writes:
>	
>	Also, I would like to know if anyone out there has sent a
>letter to Piers Anthony and got a response back. Is it a short
>response, or does it seem like he really puts some thought into it? I
>am thinking of writing him a letter, but he is always complaining that
>he gets swamped with mail.
	I wrote Piers Anthony a letter about 3 years ago.  The letter I
received back took about 6 - 8 weeks to arrive and was a little over
one type written page long.  It was semi-personal and informative. I
wasn't dissapointed in the reply.  I have never written again however 
because of the amount of fan mail Piers receives. At the time I wrote
however, P.A. was answering all his letters himself. I read in one of his
author's notes afterwards that he had hired a secretary to respond to any
of the basic fan mail and he only replied personally to any thing more
complicated or personal.  I think I read somewhere recently that he gave
up the secretary and went back to answering personally again.
If you've never written before it probably wouldn't hurt but I wouldn't
make a habit of it

>	I would also suggest reading his autobiography, Bio of an
>Ogre. If you liked his author's notes at the end of some of his books,
>this bio is for you. It also gave me some valuable info on publishing,
>since I have thought on and off of publishing a short story or two.
>	Anyway, enough of my rambling. Please respond through the
>newsgroup, as I am sure others would be interested in what you have to
>say.
>
>					Elam Birnbaum
   I would also suggest Bio of an Ogre for any Anthony fan.
                                              Anthony Pash
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
Subject: Re: Hey - is this group still read?
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:41:03 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

sgupta@coral.cs.unm.edu (Sarang Gupta) writes:

> Question: I just finished reading And Eternity, but there seems to be a
>           discrepancy (I could be wrong)-- Didn't Norman take the office of
>           time immideatly after Orlene died? Which means he wouldn't be the
>      Incarnation of Time when Orlene came to see him in Purgatory?

Remember, Chronos lives in reverse-- He took office, technically, at the
END of his term, in the normal sense. From Chronos's POV, we rise from the
grave, get younger our whole lives, then get slimey and bloody, and crawl
back into Mom... :-)

                              --Jeff

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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From: rwillis@hubcap.clemson.edu (Richard "Crash" Willis)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Albedo: the rpg. How is it?
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:03:27 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Clemson University


I've had an interest in 'furries' for several years, and reciently saw
the game, "Albedo." and heard about the graphic series. Can anyone give
me an idea of how good the role playing game is, and how I might
find the graphic novel around? Thanks!
			
rwillis@hubcap.clemson.edu | All opinions are mine, 
                           | noone else wants 'em. :)


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From: dagraf@pro-amber.cts.com (Dean Graf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Stinz' hair
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:03:08 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca

What are you talking about, Matt?  Stinz has always been blonde in the
scalp.  His rear half is black.  Go check out issues of "The Dreamery" or
"Stinz" for confirmation.

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Internet: dagraf@pro-amber.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-amber!dagraf
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Thyra)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Colour FUR-losophy
Followup-To: alt.fan.furry
Date: 26 Jan 1993 20:23:58 GMT
Organization: the Polyhedron Group
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aaa.uoregon.edu

In article <memo.893765@cix.compulink.co.uk>, cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
(Clive Grace) wrote:
> 
> In-Reply-To: <597.472.uupcb@homebase.com> michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)
> 
> > Most likely, yes.  The question is hairballs a major medical problem
> > with feline morphs?  ALBEDO showed Erma 'washing' the cub.  Grooming
> > could be achieved with brushes.  Maybe Kirby got a special attachment
> > for furries. ;)
> 
> Well, with the amount of technology going around -- and looking at 
> their paws, a hairbrush would be likely, but I felt that Erma's 
> "grooming" Ro was more of a "bonding" thing than anything else.

Thyra, being feline herself, ponders that for a minute.

Well, I'm feline, and yes, hairballs -can- be a problem, if we use our
tongues and paws to groom extensively. But we feline morphs also have a lot
more control over when we get rid of them. (-Never- try to interrogate a
feline morph after s/he has groomed. She might cough one up in your face,
just for spite. <heh heh>) It's sort of like going to the bathroom for us.
Once you get toilet trained, you stop tossing up hairballs uncontrollably,
too.

I usually only wash my face the 'old way', unless I'm preening for
something special, or unless I have no other way to get clean. (Don't
forget that a cat's saliva is also it's antiperspirant & deodorant). For
the rest of the time, a shower or bath, followed by -lots- of brushing,
does just fine.

It -is- also a bonding experience though, and can be incredibly relaxing
for us.

Purrs,
Thyra
From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Furry centaurs
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 

From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)

MA>>I just wonder how old the concept of alternate centaurs is?

FO>'Taurs of various types and species have been around for years and years
  >and years.  I won't even TRY to guess when this all started.  I do know
  >that the Centaur's Gatherum has had them for many years.  And if you get
  >into Mythology, there've probably been various other 'taurs (other than
  >minotaurs and centaurs) for a few thousand years.  Hmm.  I seem to recall
  >some sort of 'taur type statue from babylonia.

Egyptians had the Sphinx which was an almost hexa-ped.  Babylon had some
form of cow-taur or is it -- Bovin-taur.  Other than that, I haven't a
clue.

                                ---mike---
---
 . SLMR 2.1a . What has four legs and one arm?  A happy pit bull!
From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Colour FUR-losophy
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:57:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Base BBS - St. Thomas, Ontario - 519-633-7253
Reply-To: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) 

From: michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)

MA> She really hate the latest Furlough which has a blonde vixen that is t
  > typical airhead sterotype. :O

FF>This is something that's always kinda bugged me about some furry art.
  >How can one explain a blonde-headed red fox character?  It just doesn't
  >seem to make sense.

JM>Actually, just the fact that female furries have 'hair' is buggy enough,
  >at least to me. Is that just really long and differently textured fur, or
  >separate hair? And why dont the males ever get it? They'd all be bald as
  >cues in human parallels, by this standard.

Actually, since some of the human genetic structure is passed onto
a furry so does some other code that doesn't make sense like human head
hair on something already covered in hair.  Maybe the coding of females
that allows hair to stay and on male to go bald accounts for usually
only female furries (not all) to have a full head of hair.

JM>But then, there's so much more stuff about furries I've never seen covered.
  >Like... do they shed regularly, or go to full-body barbers, or what?
  >It's reasons like these that make me group all of furrydom with 'toons in
  >my mind and leave it at that.

Most likely, yes.  The question is hairballs a major medical problem
with feline morphs?  ALBEDO showed Erma 'washing' the cub.  Grooming
could be achieved with brushes.  Maybe Kirby got a special attachment
for furries. ;)

[Please note that all can fruit and vegetables thrown at me for that
last comment will be donated to the local area food bank.  Thank you.]

                                ---mike---
---
 . SLMR 2.1a . Behavioural psychology -- pulling habits out of rats
From: co252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig F. Aoki)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: ConFurence 4 - Retrospect
Date: 28 Jan 1993 02:05:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I live in Hawaii and am unable to attend these kinds of things
but I was wondering what the horror stories about the hotel
and Hotel Security was or were?
-- 
Hello is any one home?
I've fallen and can't get up.
co252@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Dan Flahive's Space Wolf
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 24 Jan 93  18:00:08

On <Jan 23 20:22>, Fuzzy Fox (1:103/208) wrote to All:

 FF>to see him post it one more time; that way we could find out for 
 FF>sure if
 FF>there is an evil net.person out there who messes around with that 
 FF>post
 FF>of his.  :)

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: lev@nsinic.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev)
Subject: Re: Furry Mecha pix?
Organization: NASA Science Internet Network Information Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:40:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1993Jan28.004516.17019@netcom.com>, fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes...
>"911 Emergency Rescue Service - Can you hold, please?"

I apologize profusely for a change in subject, but I just thought you'd like
to know that the above statement DOES HAPPEN periodically in the District
of Columbia (aka our nation's capital)!!!

B-(

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Organization: Junior, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:17:25 -0500 
From: "Donald C. Alexander" <da1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: FTP Site


        I'm new to this group and I was wondering if there is or are any FTP
Sites set up exclussively for furry pics.   If so could someone please
tell me where they are.  Thanx.
                                                          Don
From: Taral.Wayne@f432.n250.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Off Line and News
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 20 Jan 93  10:34:54

 * Original to All @ 1:102/524 in fur_mag
 * Forwarded Wed Jan 20 1993  10:33:47 by Kay Shapero @ 1:102/524

Warning, I'll be off-line from the 21st. until the fifth of February.  So 
will a lot of you people, for a lesser time.  Confurence, of course...

ReFURal 1&2 is currently available on disk, but won't be uploaded to The 
Trap Line until I'm back from the con, early in February.

There's also an illicit version of a drawing called "Water Sports" in 
Tezuka, I'm informed.  This drawing has only been published in my "Go FUR 
It" portfolio, so must have been scanned from there.  Which means I sold 
the jerk the copy with my own two hands, probably...  Might even be one of
you.  In any case, if you've seen it, will you please wipe the GIF and 
inform the source that he has it without permission?

The art shows a skunk-like character called a Teh Langgi, riding a 
pony-thing, kneedeep in water, beach toys floating around their legs.

--- Maximus 2.01wb
From: co252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig F. Aoki)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Zoomorphica
Date: 25 Jan 1993 06:23:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


So is there a way to reach the Publisher via EMail to see if they
even got my order?
-- 
Hello is any one home?
I've fallen and can't get up.
co252@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: john@ontek.com (John Alan Stanley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Last minute ConFurence update
Summary: ConFurence is still on track.
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:20:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.furry
Organization: ConFurence- The Anthropomorphic Seminar/Convention

Hi folks!

Just a few last-minute notes.  Everything is shaping up very nicely so far,
with only one relatively minor glitch.  As some of you may have heard, our
hotel suffered some water damage during the recent heavy rains.  This has 
*not* affected the con- we are still at the Red Lion Hotel Orange County
Airport.  However, we did lose the luxury suite we had planned to use for
our hospitality suite.  The hotel has been very helpful, and provided us 
with a function room to use instead, so the only real impact is that there
will not be a private hot tub for our use.  The hotel has a public hot tub
and pool, though, so you can still have a nice soak if you like.

The art show is filling up fast, and we have a lot of new artists, and artists
who are new to our show, with some fantastic work.  One thing you'll want to
keep in mind is that Saturday night will be the last time you can bid on the
art- the art show will not be open on Sunday.  Instead, we will keep the art
show open until 8 PM on Friday, and until 9 PM on Saturday, so you should 
have plenty of time to look at and bid on the art.

Our membership is currently nearly 300, which is about how many people we
had at the entire convention last year.  Needless to say, we are very happy,
and very glad that we moved to a much bigger (and much nicer!) venue.  We
are looking forward to a great con, and we hope that you can join us, in
spirit, if not in person.

Until after the con...
JAS
-- 
John Alan Stanley      ConFurence Four Art Show Coordinator
john@ontek.com         _Touch_ Staff Member
...!uunet!ontek!john   "Why don't you go out and see what's out there?"
                       "Well, I don't know if that's what's out there!"
From: noel@umbc2.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Speaking of furries and hair...
Date: 22 JAN 93 12:58:52 EST
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc2.umbc.edu

	Did it bother anyone else besides me that Cheetara from "ThunderCats" 
had SPOTS IN HER HAIR?!?!  

ObFurry:  There is no set rule I have seen regarding sex and head hair.  I
have seen females with no visible scalp hair and males with a fair amount.
As for actual hair color, in black & white art there are only two 
colors--lighter or darker than fur color.  I have a color sketch of a blonde 
red fox and boy does it look surreal!  Myabe its just the overall fur color (it 
leans more towards purple than orange) but still...
From: esalbert@scubed.com (Eric Salberta)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Gender of Furries
Summary: An example of female lead character
Keywords: Eric Schwartz, Amy
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:41:55 GMT
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA

In article <570.472.uupcb@homebase.com> michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)  writes:
>DU>I'm not sure if I completely understand the comment, but the gist that I'm
>  >reading is that (1) furries aren't and shouldn't be necessarily
>  >stereotypical -- i.e. you shouldn't assume that all cats are females and
>  >all dogs are males and (2) the way that various furries are pictured
>  >may be a reflection on our own society.  As our values change, these
>  >depictions also change.
>
>That is correct, I was getting at an earlier preception of gender
>through furries as a possible connection to gender bias from that
>generation.  Furries have change in sense in our close group enviroment
>but have they changed in commerical aspect.  Turtles and the rodent
>master are all males.  April being female human but more of co-star
>role and not necessary the lead.  Even Tail Spin's Rebecca Cunningham is
>not a lead role.  How many people here have seen Minnie Mouse in a solo
>cartoon without Mickey?  Can you list any furry/funy animal where the
>lead character is a female character?  Sure there is Strawberry
>Shortcake.  What gender if any is My Little Ponies?
>
>                                        ---mike---
>---
> . SLMR 2.1a . ADVENTURE: The land between entertainment and panic.

	Those who attended the Eric Schwartz animation on Saturday at
ConFURence, or are into Amiga animation at all, will surely think of
Amy the Squirrel, heroine of several very nice animations by Eric
Schwartz.  Relaxing the "funny-animal" restriction, there are several
examples from manga, including the Dirty Pair and one of the three
"KO Beast Warriors" (humans who turn into beasts), which was also shown
on Saturday.  Also, there are Kit Malone, from Morphs, and Revar from
YARF! as well.  (Okay, in "A Gift of Fire, A Gift of Blood", Mika was
technically the lead character, but in "The Lighthouse", it was Revar.)

	That's all I can think of just offhand -- anyone else?

						Eric R. Salberta
						esalbert@scubed.com
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
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From: allynrud@pro-amber.cts.com (Matthew Smeltzer)
Subject: Re: FUR-losophy and Punk rock??/
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 10:26:06 PST

I recall seeing something from a Micheal Scot McMurry who happens to have
in his group of characters, a tigress/leopardess called Wild Thing. She
sports a mohawk cut on the top of her head, and few hoop earrings...

I just wonder if that too, is a passing fad/craze with the furry crowd?

I recall also seeing something from D. Barr that had a Stinz having Blond
hair on his head.. This may have been a private sketch, but he did look
good in it...


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