HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: touching of a turtle???
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:37:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.132849.19587@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> joconnor@evax12.eng.fsu.edu writes:
+>What with the new tradition at Maryland of touching a giant turtle
+>at the beginning of a game?
+>
+>They wouldn't be copying another tradition from a fellow acc school 
+>would they?

Seeing how someone else brought it up (NOT me!) I'll woof a little:

Clemson's been "rubbing" Howard's Rock on the way into Death Valley for 
quite sometime now (I'd assume since at LEAST the 70's, if not sooner). 

This season, the Maryland Terps, along with $6M rennovation to their stadium,
unvieled a huge turtle the players rub on the way into the game for luck.

At Florida, they unveiled (what else?) a fairly life-sized (10') Gator which the
players run their hands over on the way into the stadium.  

And lastly, at Georgia, the fans got a double surprise.  The Dawgs, after 
going a hundred years (or so) sans any UGA (pronounced ug-aah) 	replicas in 
the stadium, uncovered not one, but TWO 7,000lb granite Bulldogs, (I believe 
one on each end of the stadium).  I'm also not sure if the players rub it or 
not, but just the thought of a 7,000lb Bulldog would scare any baby I know....

Just thought you might want to know...


+>Are they going to nick-name their stadium to "GALAPAGOS" (sp?) 
+>(favorite Darwin hang-out)
+>
+>--->->->->->------------G-O----N-O-L-E-S------------------------------------->
+>James O'Connor                            FSU-VS-NC STATE
+>JOCONNOR@EVAX.eng.fsu.edu                 SEPT 19, 1992 12:00 P.M.
+>FSU/FAMU College-O-Engineering            (DONT KNOW) Stadium,Raleigh?


-- 
Jeff Butera <> Math Grad Student, N.C. State <> jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu

DISCLAIMER: My views are my own and I'll be a big N.C.State Wolfpack 
fan as soon as hell freezes over.  Until then... Go Clemson Tigers! 
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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Hmmm Texas to Big 10!!!
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:23:10 GMT

From today's Dallas Morning News:

"Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said Sunday the league has not
abandoned its moratorium on expansion, which lasts until 1994.  There
were reports Friday that Penn State athletic director Jim Tarman told
his school's board of trustees the Big Ten is looking at potential
12th members.  Penn State becomes the 11th football member in 1993.

"Delany said there's likely been informal discussions at several 
levels about the possibility of expansion but he has not made any
official contact with any school.  Texas officials acknowledged 
they've had informal talks with Big Ten representative on potential
expansion options.

"The Penn State report said a new member would have to be from a state
contiguous with a current Big Ten member's, which would eliminate Texas."


Also:

"Rice coach Fred Goldsmith, responding to speculation Texas would leave
the SWC for the Big Ten, wanted to know the fallout of San Jose State's
victory over Big Ten member Minnesota and Central Michigan's victory
over the Big Ten's Michigan State.

"Are (Big Ten) schools leaving to come to the SWC because those two
lost?", Goldsmith asked.  "I couldn't resist saying that."

-- 
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From: swanger@news.duc.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Score Trivia...
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:54:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.164634.27633@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
> In article <1992Sep15.144906.13494@cs.brown.edu> cs169061@cs.brown.edu (Michael
>  Kalman) writes:
>>|> I remember someone telling me once that the most
>>|> lopsided score of all times was back around 1910
>>|> or so, when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0, and
> 
> I also heard that there were no first downs for either team in that game, 
> which
> must mean that Georgia Tech scored every time they touched the ball.

Maybe not.  They could have scored on 2nd, 3rd or 4th down.  It could have
taken them as many as 4 plays to score each td.
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 
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From: ohmann@sab57.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas)
Subject: Re: Schedule Strengths, Again
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:20:53 GMT

Subject: Re: Schedule Strengths, Again
Keywords: 


Scott Harper writes:
 
> I guess we'll just have to wait until A&M beats you guys in the Cotton
> Bowl again...  You know, we *always* beat Notre Dame (1-0)...
> 

Dale write:

Add FSU to the list of teams that ALWAYS beat Notre Dame.
2-0 and still counting.  See ya in '93 and '94. 
 
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: B8 Preview(9-9-92)
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:45:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.132334@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:

>Sat(9-12)    

>ArkansasSt @ OU
>	This shouldn't be much of a game.  Ray Perkins(yes, the NYGiants
>	and TBBuc's coach) is the head coach of a newly accepted Indy 
>	DivIA team.  ASU went 1-10 last year.  OU 45-6.

Might even be worse.

>CU @ Baylor
>	Another team that is questionable(Baylor) after their loss to 
>	LaTech.  I thought Baylor was better.  Can CU keep this new
>	offense moving?  CU 27-21.

Definitely: CU 34-17.

>ISU @ Iowa	11:30am ESPN
>	Iowa is 0-2, and reeling.  ISU got a slow start last week,
>	but won it going away.   Another hated rivalry.  Iowa needs
>	a win.  ISU wants respect.  Iowa still too much...30-24.

Iowa _way_ too much: 40-17.

>MidTennSt @ NU
>	Another game that shouldn't be.  NU coaches are looking
>	for ways to play up MTSU, even bringing up that they're 
>	a good basketball team.  NU 48-13.

Heh, heh: NU 60-10.
-- 
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Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
Englewood CO 80112 USA			GO BUFFS!
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: New Fight Songs (ND and Michigan)
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:03:55 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

"What though the odds be great or small,
Old Notre Dame will fall on the ball."
                          revised ND Fight Song


"Hail to the Ti-ers,
 Hail to the comparable scorers
 Hail hail to Michigan
 They're equal to the test."
                         revised Michigan fight song

Okay, okay, lighten up, boys and girls.  I like both these teams
(equally? no I like ND better) and I still think they are both good,
perhaps to-be-greats in a few weeks.  Flame me if you want to waste your
typing.  I just find it very funny to see all the posts, counterposts, and
so on about coaching strategy.  The truth is it was a sloppy game, as
many games are especially at the beginning of the season.  It doesn't
mean "these teams don't belong in the top 10", it doesn't mean that Mirer
and Grbac shouldn't be in the running for the Heisman.  There's a lot of
football left.  I didn't realize so many coaches posted to the net.  Please
post all your game plans before the game so we can have an equal (oops, sorry
to use that term) opportunity to second guess all your stellar calls.
It reminds me of hearing a bunch of old men "reminiscing" about how they
used to kick ass, perform unbelieveable feats, and so on.  As Mirer said,
"It hurt to hear all the booing.  Put THEM on the field.  It looks easy
up in the stands."
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From: steve@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu ()
Subject: Re: pass interference (was: Re: OU - Tech)
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:26:33 GMT
Reply-To: steve@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu ()
Organization: Geosciences Computing Network/University of Oklahoma

So I guess 5 downs is now a rule too?


 Steve
From: saqx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: OSU fan in the Twilight Zone
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:22:32 EDT
Distribution: usa,rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Sep14.165930.8093@en.ecn.purdue.edu>,
lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes: 
> In article <BuJzs2.CA6@rice.edu> retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter) writes:
>>In article <2AB3FEAA.29634@news.service.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
>>>
>>>  Sigh..racuse 31  -  Texas 21.  Oh well..  What can I say ?
>>>
>>>  UT loses another game that they could have won. So, what's new ?...
>>>
>>>  Did any of you think that Syracuse pushing the ball in from 2 yards
>>>  with 7 seconds to go with a lead already, and with Texas having no
>>>  time-outs left, was a little (not much, though..) unclassy ?..
>>
>>It did seem a little sleazy, but you know that the Syracuse coach was
>>thinking about his team's national ranking, knowing that most of the voters
>>just look at the final score, so you can't blame him much.
>>
> 
> Syracuse must be making sleaziness a habit. They did the same thing against
> Ohioi State last year in their bowl game.  Very rude if you ask me.  I
> think that they like to rub it in.  All I can say is that I hope Cooper 
> does the same when we beat them next weekend.
> 
> Cal was cocky coming into Purdue, and look what they got...
> 
> -- 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> | Pat Lawson                     :  Go Buckeyes!!!!!!            |
> | lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
-- 

Syracuse beat Ohio State by *one* touchdown in last year's Hall of Fame
Bowl, you schmo.  Get your facts straight before denigrating another 
program.  I don't suppose you'd care to bet on this weekend's game???
Just for your sake I hope the 'Cuse drills the Buckeyes by 30 points.
(The rest of you more sensible OSU fans need not take this post seriously.
It should be a good game.)


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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAL??!!
Date: 14 Sep 1992 22:04:54 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com

In article <1992Sep14.162953.2023@news.acns.nwu.edu>, fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
|> 
|> I realize I am leaving myself open to flames from all over the country, but
|> oh well:
|> 
|> This Purdue/Cal result is more distressing to Northwestern students (those
|> that actually follow football AND root for our team) than our own 49-0
|> trouncing this week by Boston College, because Purdue was thought to be one
|> of the teams that our team could beat this year.  My last hope is that
|> California is as overrated now as Illinois was when our team beat them last
|> year...
|> 
|> ecw
|> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
|> "Victory is never sweeter than when it occurs at Northwestern."
|> GO CATS!!!

Its too bad that Northwestern and Minnesota don't face each other this
year. I guess we'll never know....	;^)

Anyone out there see the SJSU vs. Minn. game Sat. night ? Care to
comment on the game or am I the *only* U of Mn. fan out here ?
Or at least is man (fool) enough to admit it ? ;^)    

p.s. the score for all of you that want to know was SJSU 39 - Mn. 30

What the hell, bring on Colorado!!!!!

-Tom
Go Gophs....
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From: brook@l42bb.jsc.nasa.gov) (Mike Brookover)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: aggies, hello???
Date: 14 Sep 1992 19:58:24 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.

In article <1992Sep14.165725.7456@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins) writes:
>
>
>I know this will start it,  Aggies are predictible.
>
>
>Why no aggie woofing???  What happened to the blowout of Tulsa???
>
>Defense- Great              Offense- ????
>
>I didn't see the game so I'm really not sure why the final score was the
>way it was.  Please, fill me in.
>
>BTW-  Won 20 bucks, took Tulsa and the points.
>
>I predict an allout WAR come Thanksgiving Day.
>
All of us Aggie fans are all on the telephone trying to find a QB for
our team.

I think Granger looks too much like Lance Pavlas (or Peter Gardere).  Not
only does he have no touch on his passes, he has no pocket feel.  He never
takes that step up in the pocket to avoid the backside pressure.

The final score of the game was 19-9. (Should have been 20, but the PAT was
wide right!?!?!?!)  The first half was the typical Offensive Coordinator
screw-up.  He keeps forcing a good running team to pass first to set up the
run.  The Aggies should run to set up the pass.

The second half was dominated by the Aggies.  They kept the ball on the 
ground with some passes to the RBs and TEs.  Tulsa only gained 60 or so
yards in the half.

Buckley looked great....four tackles behind the line, one fumble forced, and
one blocked pass.  Looks like he has recovered from his illness.  Too bad tha
Granger's problem is not an illness (his is that he isn't that good)

Yes, we were kinda upset that we didn't look that good, but we will take a
victory all the same.  It should be scary to the rest of the SWC that A&M is
3-0 and has yet to play a decent offensive game.

On T-day there will be a war...ther always is.


later....hoping to cover the spread against Missouri.

mgb
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Keywords: Holtz, sucks, wimp
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:19:24 GMT
Organization: UMCC

In article <1992Sep14.124334.23203@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@goethe.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.040848.12093@en.ecn.purdue.edu> lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes:
>>
>>One question:  Could somebody who taped this game PLEASE check and see who
>>got the ball first in the first half?  I must be losing my mind completely,
>>b/c I was sure I heard the announcer say that ND had elected to receive in 
>>the first half.  Then, they got the ball first in the 2nd half as well..
>>Somebody please clarify this for me, before I go nuts!
>>
>Michigan blew this one.  ND won the toss and elected to defer
>until the second half.  Michigan chose to kick off to ND in the
>fisr half and then ND chose to have Michigan kick off AGAIN in
>the second half.  Michigan wound up kicking off twice to the Irish.
>			- Rob
>
>
Yep, Michigan blew it, but that's not quite how it happened.  
ND won the toss and deferred.  M elected to defend the south 
end zone then ND chose to receive the ball in the first half.  
The deferral allowed them to also receive the ball to start 
the second half.  The N(D)BC announcers made no mention of 
it.  Overall, I think the tv announcers sucked.  I couldn't 
believe Collingsworth actually said "Notre Dame still has a 
chance to win this one" during one Irish drive.  I could understand
him saying "It's still anybody's ballgame" or some such drivel, 
but his comment annoyed the hell out of me.  Still, nothing 
beat the stupidity of the Michigan captains electing to defend 
an end zone instead of taking the ball.  At least we got it 
back on turnovers. 


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Steve_Johnston@um.cc.umich.edu          NCAA Nat'l. Champs to be
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From: jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (Jeff Mejia))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: QB situation at PSU?
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:41:13 GMT

In article <92254.013312LNF@psuvm.psu.edu>, <LNF@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Joepa was quoted in one of the local rags as waffling between the Senior
> and Freshman.  No decision made yet.  Does Penn State style football
> really need a quarterback?
> 
> Larry

Only if they want to beat any of the good teams on their schedule!! :-)

-- 
	Jeff Mejia         University of Florida   jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Trojan Spews (was Re: Trojan News)
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:44:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Is it just me, or do you all think the Subject line needed to be changed
too?

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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:44:09 GMT

johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe) writes:
> you hear coaches tell their players to win.  lou holtz played not to lose.
> 
> his excuse to the nbc reporter minutes ago was that he wanted to see what
> coverages michigan was going to be in.  bullshit.

     The man was disgusting to watch as the
lies poured forth from his mealy mouth.  I'm
no Notre Dame fan, but I couldn't help but
feel the disgrace to the football tradition
of the university.

     And not only was he lying, he was extremely
rude to the reporter as well.

     I was pleased that even though many media
people took his shit at face value and glossed
over the whole thing, to their credit ESPN wouldn't
let it drop and continued to call a spade a spade
all night.

> i sure hope that the move backfires, and that when the time comes
> down the road, his employers will consider this move to take control out of
> his players a strike against him rather than as a manner of trying not to
> lose the game.

     Do what we did at Arizona State.  Darryl Rogers
pulled that same shit in Los Angeles at a UCLA game.
ASU led most of the game, but in the fourth quarter
the heat and smog in Pasadena got to the Devils and
they blew something like a 26-10 lead and got tied.
We got the ball back with about 1:20 left, but Darryl
just ran the ball and let the clock run out.  He
wasn't "clever" enough like Lou to throw in a stupid
bomb or two so he could later insult our intelligence
and claim to not have played for the tie.  It was
extremely embarrassing to watch as the large crowd
booed the Devils out of the stadium.

     Anyway, the next week at home, nearly everyone
in the stands wore a tie to the game.  From then on,
Darryl Rogers was a walking dead man.  His contract
was not renewed.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
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From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:04:43 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

What pisses me off about Faulk is the SD-State coach, whatever his name
is.  First, when asked if Faulk should win the Heisman, he (the coach)
said, "Who else are you gonna' give it to?"  Second, he said, "Faulk
is better than Hershell Walker ever dreamed of being," or something
very close to that.

What an asshole.
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:12:54 GMT

In article <JOHNDOE92Sep12.171012@asp.inmet> johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe) writes:
>
>gary moeller gave grbac the chance to win the game.  grbac made a mistake.
>grbac is human, but he is also the one playing the game.

Yeah right! That was the stupidest play I've seen in football. Now, who was
Grbac playing for anyway?

>-johndoe

Njan
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: ND vs. Michigan
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:05:55 GMT

pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>
>This begs an interesting question.  Last season, many people were upset that a 
>Notre Dame team with only seven wins should get a major bowl bid.  So, is a 
>7-3-1 record acceptable?

Moot point.  With the Bowl Alliance, the answer is definitively yes.  If
you allow me to pick the teams instead of the Sugar Bowl Committee, I'd say
they deserve an Independence Bowl bid with that record.

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From: rszczerb@schiller.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:18:51 GMT

In article <9209142213.AA00555@dseg.ti.com> noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) writes:
>In article <JOHNDOE92Sep14.003355@asp.inmet>,
>johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe) writes:
>
>> still being a notre dame fan at
>> that point, i didn't think too much about the wherefores of grbac's
>> ill-fated pass; i had just been happy that he threw it.  now, i'm wishing
>> they would have tried a shovel pass to ricky watters or (whoever #6 was).
>  ^^^^
>
>Who's "they" in this sentence?  Ricky Watters plays for the San Diego
>Chargers I believe (and has for two years).  Correct me if I'm wrong 
>(I don't follow the Chargers) but I do know that Ricky hasn't played
>for the Irish for at least two years.  Also, the fact that you don't
>know "whoever #6 was" leads me to believe that you can't be an Irish
>fan; that is, unless you were referring to number 6 on the Michigan
>squad.  And if that is the case, why would you wish that Michigan
>chose a different play?  The interception saved ND's collective butt.
>
>Just confused a little...
>-Mike Noonan
>
>P.S.  #6 for Notre Dame is Jerome Bettis.
>

Actually, Watters playes for the 49'ers, not the Chargers.

		- Rob

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