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From: doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Low End AGA Machine
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:28:57 GMT
Organization: 68K Software Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Oct2.161339.12872@klaava.Helsinki.FI> lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
> eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story) writes:
> 
> : >there will be an A1200 with -020, AGA, and a harddrive before 
> : 
> : $3000/2 = $1500 ..egad!  Too damn much!.. especially for a '20
> : machine.  C= better not, or the AGA line won't survive PAST christmas.
> 
> And why would it be too much? If you're comparing to Falcon, just
> remember that the Falcon with a HD costs $1300-$1400 or so. Also if
> you now think that Falcon has 030, you should remember that it's
> crippled by being on the same bus with graphics - its a bit like
> running A3000 with only chip memory...

Yuck.  An A3000 running out of chip memory, while still faster than a stock
A2000/500/600, runs at less than 1/4 the speed of fast ram.  Anyone don't
believe me, stick RUN >NIL: SYS:SYSTEM/NOFASTMEM as the first line in your
startup-sequence, reboot and go unpack an .lha file...

> 	Compared to PC's the price would be a bit high. Also there
> would be a problem with price differences between the the hypotethical
> 020-machine and A600 - Commodore needs something between them.
> 
> --
> Jarkko Lindblad
> lindblad@cc.helsinki.fi

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From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: The A4000 little-review
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:36:44 GMT

In article <Bw47y4.73M@lysator.liu.se> boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg) writes:
>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>
>>In article <35760@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct10.175812.7661@sol.cs.wmich.edu> 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin E. Black) writes:
>>>> david@ariane.cam.org (David Lebel) writes:
>
>>>>Nor would it fit since it is a singular 32bit rom.
>>>
>>>Where did you get this gem of an idea?  The ROM is still 2 each 16-bit chips
>>>in 40 pin DIP packages.
>
>>Will the ROM work in an A3000?  I've heard that several people are using
>>3.0 on A3000s, some developers, some pirates.  I was under the impression
>>that they were using a 3.0 KickStart, but am not sure.
>
>  The ROM will most certainly not work in an A3000. Mostly because the A4000
>ROM lacks the SCSI stuff. As for running AmigaDOS Release 3 on A3000's it's
>very possible and I'm doing it now. But then I'm a developer... The ECS
>KS 3 is still in Beta as far as I know (no public release available yet).
>

	It works great on an A500 with a GVP series II HD and five megs of ram.
If they will come out with a scssi card for the A4000 do you expect that they
will have a rom update. Also to add to that the beta machine were not A4000
so the WB3.0 that was softkicked into ram was for current models.

	George


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From: "calvin bruner" <calvin.bruner@canrem.com>
Subject: falcon is an ape
Reply-To: "calvin bruner" <calvin.bruner@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:07:35 EST

>I decided to say goodbye at this point, and picked up some of the
>literature being given out. It says in there that the Falcon is
>incompatible with the STe, and that Atari is confident of selling
>20,000 this year


Hmm...there is something wrong here...the Falcon based on numerous
press releases and print reports is EXTREMELY compatible with the STE.
Can you reconfirm, because if it is fact I'd like to know a little
more.  Thanks.
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Subject: Re: Flickering mania!!!
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:20:26 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Oct10.125027.1378@msus1.msus.edu>, martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU writes:
> since there seems to be general confusion on the net about the flicker/
> non-flicker of the 4000, would someone who REALLY knows please post 
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	I posted anyway :-)

> a TABLE that tells what flickers and what doesn't.....i.e.
> 
    Mode   Multiscan driver  Flicker w/ Normal NTSC driver     w/DblNTSC
> 
> 320x200                                   N                        N
> 320x400                                   Y                        N
> 
	     
  640x400	    N			    Y			     N
  640x480	    N                       N/A (?)                  N
  800x600           Y                       N/A                      N/A

	Actually I just found out that only the modes with the very
	high vertical resolutions ( interlaced ) can flicker.  The 
	640 x ( 400  | 480 ) can use a 'scan doubler' (DBLNTSC) mode,
	as you've pointed out, that does not flicker, as a matter of 
	fact it looks very nice.

	I guess the problem is that if your software doesn't know about
	the display and monitor structures it just uses the v1.3 type
	modes and naturally flickers.  I found that the 800 x 600
	mode flickers on the 1960 monitor.

> 
> or what ever.....ya get my point.
> 
> 
> Jim
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Omega? NO!, Ameega?, NO!!, Ahmaga?, NOOOO!!!!!! A-M-I-G-A!!  jeeze...where
>                    have you been living....in the USA? :)       
>            Jim Martin   MATRIX -- If it's made, we sell it. Almost.
> A4000 Coming SOON!!, Real soon.                 MARTIN@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization.  My opinions only **
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Four Thousand Raisins... unclothed!
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:33:21 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Oct12.163207.18309@sunova.ssc.gov> blocker@dominic.ssc.gov (Rich Hall) writes:
>
> [ on the name "Amiga" ]
>There are numerous other reasons why no other name could ever
>capture the essence of Commodore's flagship as perfectly as
>the word "amiga", 

Well, and there was good-ole' PET in the old days. Even some Germans
(like me) did know about the meaning of "pet" in English. Very cute
and fit extremely well for this lovely device. And now, "PET" stands
for "Positron Electron Tomography" or for that plastic material of
the bigger Coke bottles :-( .

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From: fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei)
Subject: Re: Amiga Blitter 40% slower than Atari Blitter (???)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:42:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.050321.3116@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
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>
>   And please trim your signature to five lines or less.  I am not impressed
>with your ability to scan an image and run a bitmap-to-ascii utility on it.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  Classic, Marc.  Is the .sig too much for you
to swallow?   :D

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From: u9148043@cs.uow.edu.au (Justin Jay Lister)
Subject: Re: A4000(Not 3.0Mill. Amigas,the new number is 4.5Mio)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:16:58 GMT

peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:

>In article <1992Oct2.235109.29693@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@csws18.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
> >In article <1992Oct2.143502.10951@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> spz@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (S.P.Zeidler) writes:
> >>>kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
> >>>>In article <1992Sep30.060048.24518@uni-paderborn.de> laire@uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt) writes:
> >>>>>I only want to correct the number: instead of the old count 3.000000, we
> >>>>>should use now 4.500000:-B
> >>>>Well, I've got one of them, who's got the other 3 and a half :)
> >>
> >>Hmm, that's Ralph at English again ;-) For the people who wondered,
> >>he meant 4,500,000; in German the meaning of ',' and '.' are
> >>the other way round ;-)
> >
> >	Are you serious or just joking? I don't see how the period and
> >comma can have reversed meanings, Many countries use different formats
> >for dates. but that is irrelevant of punctuation, I did think that
> >was funny. though,

>Uh, you're wrong. There are indeed a load of different number formats.
>Let's take the above number plus decimals:
>4,500,000.00   US
>4.500.000,00   Germany
>4'500'000,00   Switzerland
>etc.
AUS never counted as a etc :)
 4 500 000.0    Australia 	Now I feel much better

>That's why Commodore has created the locale.library to enable programmers
>to adapt their input and output to the various countries and languages
>(not necessarily the same!) on earth. CATS has produced a publication
>named "Crossing Borders" that explains these issues among many others.

>You see, people in other countries not only dare to speak a different
>language, no they have even more differing habits!!!

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From: @prism.cs.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A3000 is not dead, dammit
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:14:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Oct14.231428.14075
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept


The A3000 _IS_ dead.  Well, mine is anyway...  Most machines are :-)
(In fact, I believe at the moment _all_ machines are dead.)

Except Commander Data. :-)

:-)
David Stuve
dstuve@prism.cs.orst.edu

(BTW, note the smileys.  This group needs more levity.)
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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Low-end AGA Machines 
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:15:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.051748.9772@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp
(Philip McDunnough) writes:

>It does very little good to the Amiga line if its consumer line (A600 and
>CDTV say) does not have a 256 colour mode. Having 50% of your market using
>32 colour graphics simply means that most sofware will be written to that
>with some obvious exceptions. The PC and Mac worlds are both moving to 8
>bit colour at the low end. C= should as well. [VGA has 8 bit colour in
>320x200 and the MacLCII has 8bit 640x480 colour on a 13" monitor]

My sentiments as well. I'm quite confident however, that the fabled A1200
will be a more cost-effective alternative to the A600. If this is the case,
the A600 could more appropriately be marketed as a replacement for the
C64. One has to remember that our perceptions of what constitutes a nice
home machine are a few steps removed from those that find the C64
appropriate for their needs. An additional 700k A600s a year would be a
nice shot in the arm for the rest of us.

As for CDTV, AGA base support and a composite DCTV mode would be nice.
From: mike@maths.tcd.ie (Mike Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Will the big American "change" give the Amiga a chance?
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:43:55 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Oct12.051916.25769@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham) wrote:
>should really try and push the new Amigas now.  America wants change.  I
>think Bill Clinton is a chinch to win the presidency and we will be 
>entering a new era in American culture.  The established authorities are

Hmmmmmmm. Can you say "Gerald Ford"? Can you say "Peanut Farmer"?
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From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Dave Haynie!
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:29:59 GMT

In article <sheldon.719005458@pv1413.vincent.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
>In <1992Oct12.234601.28463@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>
>>	Then how about this. A replacement motherboard ?
>
>>The majour problem I can see is getting
>>the 68030 to work after desoldering and soldering. I am willing to take the 
>>risk. The demo machines given to developers were after all converted A3000s
>
> I thought the 68030 chips in the 3000 were surface mounted?  At least they
>were in the A3000T I saw.

	That's my exact point. I mentioned desoldering and soldering of the
68030 and 68882.

> In my mind it wouldn't be worth the effort.  Considering the likely failure
>rate of trying to remove a surface mounted 68030, who are you going to get
>to guarantee that they won't destroy your computer?

	True, very true. That is my question for someone in the know.

1>
> That's why the PC world is so interesting.  Everything is modular.  If you
>wanted better video, you can replace the video card without scrapping the
>motherboard.  The A4000 is supposed to start going this route, as I understand
>it...  A $500 VGA card is a easier purchase to make than a new $4000 computer.
>
>>	Pleeeeeeese C= help us out.
>
> It's really not that big of deal.  Buy a new computer.

	Oh come on man. What kind of a point is that. 
		Me student bought an A3000 a few weeks before the roumors came out
for the AA chipsets. ie those official posts in .advocasy. Untill then the A3000 seemd
very safe.

>
>>		George
>>PS: Could someone from C= conferm or reject the fact that the demo AGA machines
>>to developers were actualy converted A3000s ?
>
> It's quite likely.  When you're developing an item, it's usually easier to
>incorporate it into something you currently have, rather than build everything
>fresh from the start.  That way you can work out the bugs, and find out what
>changes you'll need to make to better support it.
>
> Which is likely what happened, the new AGA required certain things that the
>A3000's older design did not contain.
>

	If true CBD already have a motherboard design. Let us have it.


>Steve Sheldon         sheldon@iastate.edu

	George
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Subject: Amigas in networks (was: It's a sad, sad day)
From: brycerw@brandonu.ca
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:36:17 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Oct5.065836.4542@desire.wright.edu>, fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
> In article <OA92-901-306p1_840FCD1C@piraya.bad.se>, Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren) writes:
>> gobs of RAM just to do simple stuff at a decent speed? Why is Windoze NT so
>> bl**dy big?
>> 
> 	I've been reading about Windows NT.  It sounds like it will have
> 	everything AND the kitchen sink.  The average desktop user might
> 	not need or want all those features.
> 
> 	IMHO, if it turns out as slow as Windows 3.1 they better wait 
> 	for the P10 to come out before releasing it.
> 
> 	The amiga OS is lacking some things but at least is very usable
> 	as a stand alone system.
> 
> 	BTW, has anybody used Amigas in a network environment, sharing files
> 	running apps off of servers, hooking up to VMS, unix etc.? 
> 	How well do they work?  Just currious.

I've got my A3000 on a network with both unix boxes and vaxes running VMS.  I
also have direct access to the internet.  I go via the unix boxes, then the
vax to do remote printing by using small scripts.  Very nice and handy at a
good speed.  Tried NFS.  Fine, but the load on the unix boxes and the ethernet
lines are usually too heavy for me to get acceptable throughput.  Not the
fault of the A3000 here.

I want more and better client and server software, Commodore!  The AS225
package has some annoying bugs!  I want to be able to send/receive mail/news,
NFS server, better FTP client and server, better telnet, proper internet
name resolution rather than editing the hosts file forever, rlogin server -
this would be neat - make my Amiga multi-user(!).
>> 
>> 
>>    /  /
>>   /--/
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>> 
>> --- Point Manager 3.00 Beta Unreg.
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> 
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From: eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story)
Subject: Re: Amiga Blitter 40% slower than Atari Blitter (???)
Originator: eas3714@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:56:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.050321.3116@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <62q8RB3w165w@bugend.edvina.se> ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:
>>Every new machine Atari makes is instantly labeled as "Amiga killer", 
>>not that any of them ever have lived up to the name...
>
>   The biggest Amiga killer is Commodore.  With so little support for the
>machine in the U.S., with few improvements in marketing here, and with 
>Commodore's U.S. subsidiary losing more than $20 Million per year for the
>parent company, it is safe to say that the Amiga is dead here.

Shut the F**k up... thank you.  (Like we haven't heard this all before)

>>              _#      **MMp     g#00   `N##0"    _agN#0P0N#           _#L
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>>   `""""    """""'""""'    "  """""" """"""      """""""   `""""    """"""
>
>   And please trim your signature to five lines or less.  I am not impressed
>with your ability to scan an image and run a bitmap-to-ascii utility on it.

F**k off... It looks cool.. I'm not particularly impressed with your try
at humor below.. it's stupid.. get rid of it.

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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re:  A-MaxII+ ?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 19:26:14 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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In article <root.02il@rkamiga.UUCP> root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>In article <torrie.718742503@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>>  That's correct.  QuickTime requires Colour QuickDraw, which in turn
>>requires at least a 68020 (and probably the 256K Mac II Roms) for its
>>bitfield operations.  At one point, there was a plan to port QuickTime
>>to 68000 machines by porting Colour QuickDraw, but now that Apple no
>>longer makes 68000 machines, I don't think they'll bother.
>
>So they've dropped support for the 68000 classic?

Sorry to back this up one, but I just saw the above section you
replied to.

Are you sure this is correct?  To the best of my understanding, Apple
is claiming that both QuickTime and apple's replacement for QuickDraw
(I believe it's called QuickDraw GL) totally bypass QuickDraw in 7.1.
Now, either Apple has rewritten QuickTime within that time period to
bypass QuickDraw, or that QuickTime has ALWAYS bypassed QuickDraw,
which was my understanding.

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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Amiga World's Worst Review EVER!!
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:42:19 GMT

In article <67837@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:

>>AW generally is quite dated when compared to competitors like AC, which is
>>produced independently and more capable of including detailed up-to-date
>>coverage. I would expect the December issue of AW to include additional
>>information and a summary of the WOC exhibits.
>
>Produced "independently"? Heh... as though, what, Amiga World is
>produced by the Amiga Magazine Division of the U.S. Dept. of Commerce?
>People love to bash AW but most AW bashers don't have a clue as to
>what actually goes into the production of a monthly magazine. 

No, produced independently as in more of a Mom and Pop operation, with less
overhead and emphasis on aesthetics. No one is downplaying the value of AW,
in fact we're asserting the fact that it is the tremendous amount of
production effort that makes lead times a necessity. This isn't a criticism,
merely a reality. PiM Publications is an order of magnitude smaller than
IDG and with this this, you get certain drawbacks as well.