HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tds@hoserve.att.com (Tony DeSimone)
Subject: MRI (was: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style))
Reply-To: tds@hoserve.att.com (Tony DeSimone)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:10:45 GMT
	<1992Nov5.203113.4954@igor.tamri.com>

>>>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 92 20:31:13 GMT, donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) said:

Don> The field strength varies:  I don't have the numbers handy but my company
Don> sells some low field, permanent magnet systems, as well as medium->high
Don> field superconducting systems.

Oh good, an expert!  I've always wondered how the technique came to be
called MRI.  I recall that in the early days (say, ten years ago), the
field went by the name NMR imaging.  I even remember seeing signs in
hospitals.  Then suddenly there seemed to be a flash cut to MRI.  The
way I heard it, the reason was to get the word ``nuclear'' out of the
term for fear of alarming the hoi-polloi.  Any truth to this?

Calling it *nuclear* magnetic resonance is not entirely superfluous.
The physical principles are those of nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR)
spectroscopy, which has been used in physics and chemistry for
decades...mostly to annoy graduate students with QM problems involving
coupled angular momentum operators.  There's also electron
paramagnetic resonance spectroscopy, based on similar principles,
except involving the electron magnetic moment rather than the nucleus.
Don't know if EPR has medical diagnostic applications, though.

Or maybe it was a fear of hearing it pronounce nook-u-ler....
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From: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
Subject: 1950's Steve.
Reply-To: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:42:53 GMT

   I'm having psychic prediction contest.  How many people will completly
ignore the time frame in their theorizing about the origin of AIDS?  Right now
I have two, Steve and Darryle.

In article <stovall.721499344@ficus.cs.ucla.edu>, stovall@ficus.cs.ucla.edu
(Steven Stovall) writes:

> I think what is meant by "the technology did not exist" is that, as you say,
> the technology did not exist to design and construct viruses at the genetic
> level.

   That's sure _one_ of the things I meant.

> But that is not to say that they could not have been experimenting
> with, say, SIVs (Simian Immuno-defficiency Viruses) with the intention of
> developing HIVs.

   Yes, it is.  God I'm getting tired of repeating this stuff.  One wildly
important part of "technology" is the knowledge base it rests on.  Take DNA
polymerase chain reaction, the DNA "amplifier".  It was ripped off from the
biochemistry of bacteria that live in boiling water.  That technology didn't
require its own theoretical breakthrough, just a discovery.

   SIV, HIV are retroviruses, a TYPE of virus deiscovered well after AIDS is
known to have been loose in the population at large.  Anyone who wants to
spread rumors or even theorize about conspiracies should make a big wall chart
and make sure their timing works out.  If someone dies of AIDS in 1959 they had
to have it in 1955 or so.  Retroviruses were discovered, as a class, in the
60's and are hard to locate, sneaky little buggers.  

> On the face of it, this just not sound that far-fetched.

   No, it is merely impossible (what did you mean to say, anyway?).

> That such experiments introduced HIV to the human species may not be highly
> probable, but certainly is not a ridiculous notion. And if they experimented
> on human subjects, those subjects would be black folks, either in Mississippi
> or the Belgian Congo.

   An accident with unknown retroviral contamination, maybe.  Psychic
foreknowledge of the existence of retroviruses, no.  Give it up; it couldn't
have been done on purpose unless something like S.P.E.C.T.R.E. from the James
Bond films exists.  

> steven stovall             

Dan
Danwell@IASTATE.EDU
"Only two infinite things are known to exist.  The universe and human
stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the universe"
-St. Albert :)
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:28:00 GMT
Organization: Will pay money for food.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov13.004922.5788@seas.gwu.edu>, 
  sheryl@seas.gwu.edu (Sheryl Coppenger) writes...

>I think you describe the Tuskegee Experiment in a much more benign way
>than it deserves.  The people in the experiment were not told what they
>had, they were not treated even though treatment was available, and they
>were actively discouraged from getting treatment if they found out
>independently that they had syphillis.

Yes, it was a morally reprehensible experiment.  There's still a huge
difference between that experiment and deliberately engineering a deadly virus
and setting it loose to wreak havoc on some "unwanted" segment of the
population. 

 - snopes

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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mind the Gap)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ex-presidents
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:00:16 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Nov10.065406.20388@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>: In article <1dkll0INNhcu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu 
>: (David Lesher) writes:
>: > Others said
>: > # John "What does the 'T' in Spiro T. Agnew stand for?" Berger
>: 
>: I don't think we can say for sure that Agnew had a middle name.
>: 
>: Therefore, I suggest we put this in the FAQ as 
>: 
>:  Spiro Tb Agnew.
>
>I thought it was Spiro Terry Agnew. James T. Kirk was named after him.

Wrt whether Spiro Tananarivo Agnew is still alive, he celebrated his
74th birthday on November 9.  He'll be 80 years and ten months when the
moon is blown out of orbit by a nuclear explosion.  [Reference to Space:1999,
a show far superior to Star Trek.]

Ted "how come Kirk never met Churchill, what with all the time-travelling he
     did?" Frank
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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From: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage)
Subject: Re: Halloween
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:46:51 GMT

In <1992Nov8.074844.21173@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
>: 
>: Well, partly right, and partly wrong, Haloween, or "Allhallows eve," was
>: a Pagan (maybe Satanic, not real sure, because Pagan does not equal
>: Satanic) holiday or festival, one which the Roman Catholic Curch could
>: not "get rid of" or even control.  It was believed that on this night,

>It was not satanic before the Christians made it so. Nor was it "All
>Saint's Day Eve".

Correct, sorry if I mislead you, or anyone, I do not know the correct
name of the Pagan festival.

>... deleted ...

>: or honors the Saints of the Church.  Thus, Halloween was originally a
>: Pagan festival which the Church wanted to control, to do this the Church
>: created another holiday that was a Holy Day of Obligation......
>: 
>: Halloween came first, and All Saints day was a reaction to that Pagan
>: festival...

>Correct.

Sorry for my above coments which were not entirely correct.

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From: troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Kryptonite Locks - Nitrogen/Freon chilling
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:26:46 GMT
	<1NOV199221521925@csa3.lbl.gov>
	<1992Nov3.163542.17548@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Right Coast HQ For Stupid Pub Tricks
In-reply-to: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu's message of 3 Nov 92 16:35:42 GMT

>>>>> "Ted" == Ted "not a Terry" Frank <thf2@midway.uchicago.edu> writes:

	Ted> In article <1NOV199221521925@csa3.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:

Gee, that weird.  I was the one who wrote the following quote, not
jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov..... Hmmm..

>>"Clubs" for cars.  The story is that theives freeze the club and then
>>smash with a hammer.  I think it would just be easier to cut the
>>steering wheel!  :)

[text butchered]

	Ted> rather than any permanent sense of ownership.  A friend
	Ted> of mine, buying a Club in a K-Mart on the South Side of
	Ted> Chicago, was informed by the person behind him in line
	Ted> that when *he* steals a car, he just cuts the steering
	Ted> wheel.  -- ted frank | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu also at
Hmm... And now he goes on to say a FOH (friend of his) but it
wasn't actually him, and he wasn't there in the K-Mart with this
alleged friend.  I think complete strangers talking to you in
Kmarts in Chicago is an Urban Legend.  Do you really have any friends? :-)

Rod "I have friends" Troch
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ex-presidents
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:17 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: usa
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Phil Gustafson arranges his diodes thusly:

PG> Hmpf.  Nelson Aldritch Rockefeller met his maker in the arms of a 
PG> 26-year-old art dealer (heh) way back in 1979.  

S'howduzzat reconcile with the Frequently Posted Legend entry?

FAQ> T. Nelson Rockefeller died of cardiac arrest while porking the help.

Joe "Art dealer?  Here I'd been envisioning a motel maid or something" Chew
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From: pkteagarden@bobcat.lmc.edu (Phil Teagarden)
Subject: Re: Frozen Waste
Organization: Lees-McRae College, Banner Elk, NC
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:45:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.144913.14868@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:

>Chicago Tribune, 11/7/92, p.16

>SEATTLE (Reuters) - A stinking basketball-sized chunk of frozen waste that
>       smashed through the roof of a suburban Seattle home came from a
>       United Airlines DC-10 flying overhead [...]
>       The FAA said such incidents occur occasionally...
>       Leroy and Gerri Cinnamon were watching a football game on television 
>       in their living room when the block of bluish ice smashed through
>       their roof and ceiling and shattered on the floor.
>       The Cinnamons summoned firefighters and a hazardous materials
>       response team [note to PvdL: idea for new reality-based TV show?]
>       to their home.
>       But as the ice melted, the fragments were identified as frozen waste
>       from an airliner [United Airlines Flight 461 from Chicago to Seattle] 
>       passing above.
>       "It stunk real bad," Gerri Cinnamon told reporters. [a.f.u. motto of
>        the week?]
>       [FAA Spokesman Dick] Meyer said service records indicated a plumbing
>       problem did exist and it was fixed.
>-- 
>ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
>also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
>the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637

That's what I call, "the sh*t almost hitting the fan!"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:42:46 GMT

dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes:
: 
: I'd suggest viewing "The Strecker Memorandum" video. In this video
: a (white) doctor explains in scientific detail how the AIDS virus
: is genetically engineered (ie. man-made). Among other things, it is
: not possible for viruses to cross species, so that story about AIDS
: originating from the African green monkey is even more impossible.
: Even if you don't believe Dr. Strecker's conclusions, at least you'll
: realize alternative possibilities that actually aren't far fetched 
: when you think about it.

Strecker has his head so far up his ass that he couldn't recognize
either a scientific fact or scientific method.

Viruses can cross species. Many such are carried by numerous species.
An example that you certainly have heard about - rabies.

Bill
From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:27:19 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
> I thought spelling flaming went out a long time ago, with the advent of
> inteligence!!!

Tonight I must be really (realy?) slow on the uptake.  The misspelling
(mispelling?) of "intelligence" in a complaint about spelling
(speling?) flames (fllames?) is just a joke, right?  Either way, it
put ME on the floor (flor?) laughing.

--Scott "(Scot?)" Cromar
From: egilmour@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Water Tower Suicide.
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:12:53 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

This is a story of a bizarre incident of suicide that I read about in the paper
about two years ago that happened in a small town near mine.

A man was found to be missing when he failed to show up at his best friends
wedding at which he was supposed to be the best man.  The wedding went on 
without him but when he failed to show up for days afterward he was 
reported as a missing person to the police.  

About six months later, people in this small town were beginning to 
feel ill and the illness was mainly linked to the water.  Workers went
up to the water tower in the middle of the town to see if somehow the tower
was responsible for the unpure water.  When they looked inside the tower, they 
found a badly decomposed body that proved to have been inside the tower
for about six months, and was the man that had gone missing earlier.

It is reported that when this was made public, practically everyone in 
the town suffered serious bouts of vomiting.

I actually read about this story in my newspaper and heard about it on
the radio.  Really!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: forpost-WWII Japanese soldiers
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:01:38 GMT

I lived on Guam for almost a year back in the mid 50's. A soldier had
come out of hiding a few years previous. The last one out, I think, 
was in the '70's.

As for water, it is the tropics. As for food, there were large
snails (escargot, to you) all over the island.

--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Date: 14 Nov 92 01:52:42 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Nov13.204737.18626@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>MSB101@psuvm.psu.edu (Mike Berman) writes:

>
>: Along related lines (I know this one is true), it is cheaper to make certain
>: computer chips with math coprocessors than to make them without (since it costs
>:  extra money to sever the line to the coprocessor).  But the ones with the
>: coprocessor cost more. Of course in this case, you're paying for technology...
>
>Wrong? When they design a chip, it doesn't matter what they put on it. They
>simply design the chip without the co-processor. Thus, there is no need to
>"sever lines", since there are no line to sever.
>
>The chips with the co-processor cost more, because it has more components.
>Thus, more chips fail testing - this increases the unit cost of the chip.

The reference is to the 486SX chip which is reputedly a 486DX with the 
coprocessor and cache disabled.  Intel doesn't claim they are actually
missing, just disabled "somehow" and thus we never know if they were
actually coproc rejects moved to another production line to recycle for
the CPU that works, or just a minor mask change that disables the coproc
parts.  In any case, it does seem likely that the coproc part is substantially
present in this case.

cjl
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Let's keep it *GHASP* civilized
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:34:36 GMT


In article <BxDArB.9EM@rahul.net>, phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) writes:
...
|>Phil "I'm actually a pretty nice guy.  Really!  Ask PvdL, or any of several
|>Terries, or even our Canuck crony Brian.  I know how many l's there are in
|>'intelligence', though" Gustafson

It's all a matter of opinion, Phil. Take a diode adjustment break.
--
Nolan "Man enough to do woman's work" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"Be careful,..., or I'll use a plunger on your face untul you burp shit."
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"Never fight with your wife. Just dicker" Harry Maulsby
"Anything that disorients you is good for you"  Tiny Doctor Tim
"Illiterati non Carborundum(tm)" Mise me fein
"Grab Dick and come on down"  Don Pette
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"Boy, was I in for a dose of reality." Randall K. Abler
"... necrophilia doesn't really hurt anybody."  Rick Gordon
"Well, first of all, your stance is too wide"
From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The hell with Lemurs,
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:32:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) writes:
> Lemmings don't really commit mass suicide.  It's an urban legend
> stimulated in part by a Disney wildlife movie in which the producers
> actually filmed lemurs diving to their deaths in the ocean -- after having
> been thrown into the ocean by Disney employees located just off camera. 

Isn't this the opening scene of "Faces of Death?"

--Scott "if they had run out of lemmings, would they have stopped to
buy more film?" Cromar
From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: College Coed Murder UL
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:38:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes:
>     uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
> | hears some horse breathing or gasping, like someone trying to draw
> What do horses have to do with this?

Sheesh.  Haven't you ever seen "Godfather?"

--Scott "I wear size 11 horse shoes" Cromar
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: wvhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Keywords: sex,Madonna,Bill Clinton,Microsoft,drugs
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:46:30 GMT

>dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes:
>
> I'd suggest viewing "The Strecker Memorandum" video. In this video
> a (white) doctor explains in scientific detail how the AIDS virus
> is genetically engineered (ie. man-made). Among other things, it is
> not possible for viruses to cross species, so that story about AIDS
>
Well, Darryle, I'm sure by now you have read all the flames sent your way
about this (serves you right for posting to AFU in the first place), but
even if AIDS could have been genetically engineered in the first place, 
why would the CIA (or the Illuminati, or whoever) have choses AIDS?

If I wanted to decimate the population of drug users or homosexuals or
blacks or whoever, I wouldn't choose a slow-acting virus whose spread can
be effectively prevented by such simple acts as using a condom and not
sharing needles!

On the one hand you point out that the US has been actively engaged in
the development of super-germs for bacteriological warfare, and then ask
us to believe that out of all the super-germs developed they picked an
easily countered virus; one which is not specifically targeted to one
race or type of people as sickle-cell anemia and Tay-Sachs are.

To rid the world of black people why not juice-up sickle-cell?  If the
US Army is using super-brain scientists to develop super-germs, why did
they unleash a virus that everyone, even members of the Trilateral Commission,
can get?

It don't add up.

Didn't the USSR develop a three-sided germ?

---Bill "didn't Yog-Soggoth have a three-lobed burning eye?" VanHorne

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From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Sorry to Inject Some FAQs
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 

>Fb.Driver runs over exotic animal,wraps in coat for fun photo;it revives
>   off!  Similar story: A hunter poses for picture w/deer w/rifle in ant

A variation on this is true - a guy hit a deer, stopped his car, got out
and put the deer in his car.  The deer revived, bit him on the neck, and
kicked the crap out of the interior of his car.  He killed the deer with
his knife, and a big dog came up, and wanting the deer, also bit him.

I've heard the tape of the driver's call to 911, with expletives bleeped.
The caller sounded drunk, but sincere.  As a matter or fact, I have it as
a digitized sound file.  It's a big 'un.
            
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