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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Gee, I Think Sting RULZ, Dood!
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:55:36 GMT

(This is one is dedicated to Mr. Steve Hooper:)          ;-)

Gee, I really, really like that Stinger guy in WCW and I root for
him all the time.  I know one day he will beat up that big bully
Van Vader once and for all, and then he'll fulfill his destiny
as "Greatest Champion Ever"...

I also think ZMan and Johnny Gunn are really cool and hope that
they win the tag titles soon; if not them, then maybe Van Hammer
and Johnny B. Badd, or Erik Watts and Dustin Rhodes.

Actually, I don't even know what I'm talking about, since I *love*
the WWF so much more.

PS--Why does WCW keep having those stupid, boring Japanese wrestlers
    who fly around a lot?  Why can't they just wrestle like *real men*,
    like the Ultimate Warrior?  All he has to do is beat his chest and
    his opponent quits.  That's a real champion.

PPS--Who's the real Ultimate Warrior now?  I heard the first one died of
     AIDS...

PPPS--Why do all you people on this group think Ric Flair is so cool?  He's
      a rotten individual and certainly not a good role model.

PPPPS--Who's this "Bob Backlund" guy?  He's boring, and I never heard of
       him before.  They call him a former champion.  Must've been some
       piddly little promotion.  Or Japan, where the wrestling sucks.

PPPPPS--For Dave Scherer's next comp tape, I suggest that classic match
        between Rick Martel and Virgil from Superstars a couple months ago.
        That was a killer.  I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! WOW!


HEY, HOOPER:
IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE ALL DAY ON R.S.P-W, MAN?  GIVE ME A F**KING
BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh!!   I almost
couldn't keep a straight face writing the above...also, I don't really
have anything against Sting...or Dave Scherer!

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

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   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for! 

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Women's Wrestling
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:38:05 GMT

<JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:

>  I was just wondering why women's wrestling never made it in
>the U.S. as opposed to Japan.  I personally haven't figured out
>a reason, so I throw it out to rspw.  Any ideas?

I assume that you've never seen women's wrestling from Japan, or you wouldn't
ask this question(of course there's nothing wrong with that).

Like men's wrestling, there's a big difference between the US wrestling and
Japanese wrestling.  Not only women's stuff, but also men's wrestling never
made it big in the US as it has in Japan.  The US wrestling is more like
a cartoon/fantasy while Japanese wrestling is more like a "sport."  The 
promotions in Japan try it make their product as realistic as possible while
the US promotions go like, "oh well, wrestling is fake, and the fans know that
anyway."  Majority of the US fans don't care about wrestling.  They care more
about the storyline and gimmick. In Japan, it doesn't matter who is good/bad.
What the fans want is good wrestling matches. As for women's wrestling, the
girls of All Japan Women's Pro-Wrestling work even harder than most of the
male wrestlers in the world(and ALL of the female wrestlers in the US I've ever
seen).

In Japan, lots of people take the wrestling seriously because it deserves to be
taken seriously.  That's a country where the guys like Hulk Hogan is required
to "wrestle" while talented guys like Barry Horowitz or the State Patrol 
receive the oppotunity to show their talent that they can't show in the US.

We haven't even seen good matches by women in the US for years although we
could see many good matches by men(still not as many as we could in Japan).
If you talk about the WWF women's tag title feud from '87-88, don't forget that
one of the teams was Japanese. 

Sorry, it's been my long blah-blah-blah's again, but I hope you understand what
I'm trying to say.
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From: awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh)
Subject: Narcissus - We all KNOW who it is
Reply-To: awalsh@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:23:35 GMT

Gotta be Lex. Who else could possibly pull off being in love with
himself? Who else DESERVES to be in love with himself? Christ, if
I had a build like that, I'd carry around a mirror too. Can't
be El StringBean, He's too nice plus he has the personality of a 
piece of cheese. Jimmy Garvin? Oh yeah, Perfect would be cowering 
in his boots. Oh no, Jimmy Garvin. Please, don't hit me with those
Fists Of Stone(tm).
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Suplex definition
Keywords: possible solution
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:08:44 GMT

  After reading the current discussion for defining a suplex, I thought a
bit and came up with one:


   A suplex is a move where you get a certain hold on your opponent, lift him
and fall backwards.

  Exceptions (every definition or rule has got to have exceptions) - gourd
buster suplex and the reverse gourd buster suplex (what Johnny B Badd does, he
holds the guy like he is going to do a Skinner reverse DDT but then lifts the
guy up in the air, only to bring him right back down).

  Why are these two exceptions also considered suplexes, my guess is that they
"look" like suplexes.  The gourd buster you lift the guy like a regular vertical
suplex and just fall foreward.  The reverse g. buster also "looks" like one as
the guy ends up in the air similar to a vertical one.

  Note:  I believe these are the only two "suplexes" not included in my
definitions.  The definition excludes powerbombs, powerslams,and DDT's (which is
why I had to add the "lift" part).
  The only possible extra move included is when you pick the guy up like Animal
of the (former) LOD by squatting under him and then just fall back.  Is this
a suplex?  I am temtped to say no, though I can't say why (it is the same as 
a vertical suplex except the guy is "upsidedown")

			Fippster 6, who loves to get in these kinds of
			discussions on the net.
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From: mlegare@wetware.com (Dr. Robert (BoB) Tech)
Subject: Re: Wrestling drinking game
Organization: The Flying Killfile Ranch
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:19:00 GMT



drink every time an "unconscious" wrestler adjusts his tights
drink every time a flying combo misses (slightly)
 - 2 drinks when a flying combo misses completely, but the target sells it 
   anyway
drink every time a wrestler is referred to as a "youngster" or "newcomer"
   when everyone knows he's been in the biz more than 10 years
drink every time a heel or jobber is called a "veteran"
 - the Iron Mike Sharpe Memorial Drink - 1 can of beer for each time a 
   wrestler is called a "wily ring veteran"



-- 
if one falls on you,
we just carve your name on it
and leave it there...
mlegare@wetware.com
From: ckennedy@doc.helios.nd.edu (chris kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Cactus Jack Face Turn..... NOT !!!!
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:54:09 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

There seems to be three heel groups shaping up in the WCW:

Race 		Cactus Jack 		Barry Windham
Vader 		Barbarian		Pillman (sp?)
Orndorf		Atlas 			Austin

With Arn, Bobby, and Rude being off to the side, now it is possible that
CJ will be on the face team at CoC but if so how will they play Jack and 
Barbarian?  

Anyway, when did they mention the Wrecking crew this weekend?  Jim Ross
sais that we would hear about the Rock and Roll express on wednesday but I
didn't hear anything about the Wrecking Crew.  Oh well, it looks like 
wednesday should be pretty good.

Chris
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From: njs@scifi.uucp (Nicholas J. Simicich)
Subject: Re: FAQ Update
Organization: Nick Simicich, Peekskill, NY
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:27:22 GMT

In article <BzGn59.CEL@news.iastate.edu> jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) writes:

>I read news.answers.  I even posted our FAQ to it!
>I got turned down.. The moderator didnt think our group was serious 
>enough to post our FAQ on his newsgroup.

I'd be surprised if that was the actual reason.  I post the
alt.fan.howard-stern FAQ to news.answers.  This group is a bit more
serious than that one is.

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From: rschwabe@bach.udel.edu (Robert Josep Schwabe)
Subject: Re: Wrestling drinking game
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:48:50 GMT

You forgot a couple:

Vince Mcmahon:  

Drink every time he says "Come on ref, get in there"
Drink every time he puts his voice in the back of his throat (example CRRRUSH)

Mean Gene Okerlund:

Drink every time he says that this will be the greatest pay-per-view ever
      (drink twice if it sucks already)
Drink every time he says "Now then" and "Here we go"

others:
Drink every time that the fans cheering for the bad guy gets covered up.
Drink twice if you hear WWF fans yell "WHOOOOOOO"
Drink every time a Slim Jim commercial comes up.
Drink every time there is a picture, shot, or photo of a wrestler who is no
longer in that particular federation. (Drink twice if you see them in the 
screens behind Sean Mooney, Eric Bishof, or Gene Okerland)
Drink every time someone says "This man feels no pain.  I don't know if you
can hurt this man.

Just a couple of thoughts
	Robert J. Schwabe

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From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Subject: Re: Names list (Only a few)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:44:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.204454.25378@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>In article <1ii24mINN59b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ar389@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tom Perrine Jr.) writes:
>>Hulk Hogan - Terry Bollea
>>Brutus Beefcake - Ed Bollea

>Actually, its Ed *Leslie*. It was only rumoured the 2 were brothers.

It was not a rumor, it was a work.  The two have been promoted as
brothers in the past.  Terry Bollea was Terry "Hulk" Hogan, and Ed
Leslie was "Dizzy" Ed Hogan.

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From: foleye@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (Stilt Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: realism?
Date: 7 Jan 93 07:16:39 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: xanth.cs.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan6.230337.402@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will) writes:
>In article <1993Jan07.025847.22580@rose.com> marv.bloom@rose.com (marv bloom) writes:
>>
>> This is one area where the WCW veers off path. One example would be 
>>Ricky Steamboat vs Windham. There is no way one can give away fifty 
>>pounds and be victorious (perhaps "on the street") but not in a Ring 
>>(boxing included).
>
>It's actually not uncommon for people with big weight advantages to
>lose in either boxing or wrestling.  Just look at Chris Taylor -- he
>had more than a 150 lb advantage over most of his opponents and never
>won an Olympic or world title (bronze medallist in 1972 Olympics).
>
>Evander Holyfield had a 40 lb disadvantage to George Foreman and beat
>him easily.  And Steamboat and Windham would be in the same weight
>classification in boxing and in amateur wrestling, so it's really not
>ridiculous to have them in the same class in professional wrestling.
>

When you consider that all of these guys are strong enough to lift the larger
men (i.e. Windham) off the mat and throw them around with some ease, a weight
advantage doesn't matter a heckuva lot.  Wrestling a Pontiac isn't too hard
if you can lift the Pontiac off the ground and slam him on the mat just as
easily as he can to you.

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: WWF Rantings
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:49:04 GMT

In <1ir4iqINNpp3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cm775@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rick Scaia) writes:
 

>Am I the only person here who isn't disappointed with Ric Flair's
>decision to leave the WWF?  

I suppose I'm disappointed in one way only: I get more access to WWF
syndies than WCW stuff, and will not get to see Flair as often on TV
if he returns to WCW.

Other than that...I think Flair was completely wasted in the WWF. Two
title reigns, both short and uneventful. What *was* the point of that
three week title reign after Summer Slam? They'd barely announced it
on TV when he'd lost the belt to Hart. I know, I know...the inner-ear
thing...

Maybe I was expecting too much of the WWF to use  Flair properly: the
definitive Hogan-Flair match never occured...Flair didn't wrestle
those one hour marathons (save the RR{.{.etc. etc.
{i]That's about all I'm going to put now...I suddenly got lots of line
noise.

Michael
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: NARCISSUS!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:33:53 GMT

Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:

>OK, OK...Narcissus is...

>Steve DiSalvo!

Ha ha ha ha ha, the name Steve DiSalvo has once again thrown us
all into uncontrolled fits of laughter!  Why the very sound of it
is enough to get us started.  Steve DiSalvo, where did they come
up with that fun and wacky name?   Bwah-ha-ha-ha, Steve DiSalvo,
Steve DiSalvo, Steve DiSalvo.  We just can't get enough of it.
Please, everyone, use this name "Steve DiSalvo" in each and every
one of your posts for awhile!  Perhaps the only way to overcome
its truly great humor value is to use it again and again until it's
no longer funny.

<Snort>  Steve Di <chuckle> Salvo!  Oh God, this is just ha-ha-ha
too rich!  Steve DiSalvo, Steve DiSalvo, Steve DiSalvo ha-ha-ha-ha
I'm busting a gut here Steve DiSalvo ha ha ha ha....
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From: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk (John Nelson)
Subject: Re: This Group Should Be Killed & John A
Cc: Monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:28:00 +0000

"Mark" Rubio sez...
>Steven... ..who thinks Road Warrior Hawk was the greatest.

 He *is* the greatest and that's official. Unless there's been an upset he's
still the CWA Superheavyweight World Champion remember - wrestling's most
important title.... :-)


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From: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Jeff Foy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WWF] Tatanka query
Date: 11 Jan 93 07:33:39 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

A native American associate of mine and I were talking about certain
Indian wrestlers today. We shot the usual bull (ahem) and then I
mentioned Tatanka. He asked me if I knew what that word meant. Not
knowing any of the Indian languages, I told him no. He said that it
means "buffalo" (as in the big wild animals). 

My question... If this is true, is there supposed to be some 
subliminal meaning here? Is Vince really smart enough to have
taken the time to study up on this?

Commentary is invited here or at Jeffery.Foy@frenchc.eskimo.com (if
you're *very* lucky) :)

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: WCW Rescue? Does Turner Listen?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:01:01 GMT

dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes:

>I doubt that most perfer the WWF. If you had been apart of this group in May 
>through the summer you would know that almost everyone at that time perfered 
>WCW (Which seemed to be getting better). Now, I don't know. But to take 

I prefer WCW because they do a better job of avoiding the bloated
50-year-old wrestlers.  WWF has gotten better about this in the
past few years, but has always had a tendency to include slow-moving
old men.  Yeah, a lot of the younger guys don't have much of a
workrate, but at least there's hope that they'll get better over
time.

The federation I'd really like to see is Smoky Mountain.  It
sounds like it has a lot of potential.

Tom
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From: awhitton@bnr.ca (Alan Whitton)
Subject: Re: NARCISSUS!
Reply-To: awhitton@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:46:07 GMT

In article <19183@mindlink.bc.ca>, Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper) writes:
|> > Charles R. Dennett writes:
|> >
|> > Yeah, who is this?  My two sons (ages 8 and 10) were watching today
|> > (Sat.) and saw Bobby Heenan say this guy was coming.  We can't figure
|> > out who this is.  Did I miss something here?
|> 
|> 
|> Lex Luger.

What about El Gigante, I thought that's who it was, ah well :-)

Cheers,
Alan Whitton
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From: carlton@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Carlton)
Subject: Re: Suplex list
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:20:11 GMT

dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:

>jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:

>JS>That would have been cage to mat. I believe Joe meant cage to arena
>  >floor. I don't know if anyone's THAT crazy.

>Matsuhiro Matsunaga has dove from a balcony before, not to mention been
>set on fire and been slammed on a bed of nails, so I woul bet he is
>sick enough.

You forgot to mention being bashed repeatedly in the head and body with
a barb wire baseball bat and piledrove into a metal table (where his
head left a round dent) before having his head set on fire!

Does anyone know how much money Matsunaga gets paid?

Mark
From: temehs@ccs1.bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Hogan on TNN
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:58:55 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
Reply-To: temehs@ccs1.bbn.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: ccs1.bbn.com

I saw the full Hogan interview on TNN. He went over in detail about steroids
and basically said that he did use them, but is off now. He amitted to more
than he did on Arsenio, and seemed to be more honest. He also took claim for
the 'Eye Of The Tiger" theme music saying that Vince did want him to use it
and that he(Hogan) paid off the sound guy to play it. He also tried to say he
was the first to use theme music. (NOT!!!  Remember the late Leroy Brown ,
Hulk????) The first half of the show had the announcers BS'ing amongst
themselves, so the last half hour was most of the interview.
			Tom Mehs
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: WCW Rescue?  Does Turner Listen?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:52:23 GMT

Keep
In article <1993Jan5.215823.1157@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgrimes@magnus.acs.
ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:

>
>Or, more important question re this group: Do most of the subscribers to rspw
>prefer WWF cartoon show business freaks to any semblence of "wrestling" ?
>Most of the time this group comes across as rec.sport.pro-wrestling.WWF .
>Ric Flair is god and Bam Bam Bigelow is a great athlete?!?!?!!

I doubt that most perfer the WWF. If you had been apart of this group in May 
through the summer you would know that almost everyone at that time perfered 
WCW (Which seemed to be getting better). Now, I don't know. But to take 
people's claims that Ric Flair is god as signs of perfering WWF is just stupid.
After all Flair has done very little since coming to the Wiff and is definitly 
best known for his NWA days. As far as Bam Bam goes, for a big guy he is not 
too bad. I have seen him wrestle some good matches in Japan.

                                               David Kempster
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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: Happy New Year! & a Trivia Question
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:20:42 GMT

In article <1i0b7hINN46d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, Mike Palij writes:
 >What Pro-wrestler appeared on the cover of a Superman comic?
 >(As far as I know, there has only been one time that this has
 >occured but I am open to being corrected on this).

 >(1) Name the wrestler.

I dunno.  Gorgeous George, perhaps?

 >(2) Name the title of the story.
 >(3) Identify the comic, the issue #, and date of publication.

I really don't know these, and *I* collect comic books (just not
old Supes stuff).  Post these questions to rec.arts.comics.misc, and some
smartass'll answer all three for you in a probable matter of minutes!!!

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of   
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for! 

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