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From: brewers@camelot.bradley.edu (James Kimble)
Subject: Bradley Basketball
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.college
Date:  5 Jan 93 03:07:06 GMT

Hello there all.  Now that I have arrived back at campus, I will be
happy to mail anyone a summary of Bradley's Basketball games.  If you
just drop me a line, I'll put you on my list and send you updates 
of Bradley Hoops scores and news.  Anyone whose interested, mail me at
brewers@camelot.bradley.edu   

By the way, tonight, Bradley defeated Florida-Atlantic, a Division II
school from Bocca Ratton, FL, 74-54.  Deion Jackson led all with 20 pts.
Bradley is now 4-4 and 1-0 in the MVC while UFA drops to 1-10.  Bradley
plays next at Wichita State on Thursday.

Jim
From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WBB: Ohio State upsets Virginia!!
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:30:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell Communications Research


In article <1993Jan3.210230.23891@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:

>      #20 Ohio State   91
>      # 5 Virginia     84

A great game to watch.  Ohio State couldn't do anything right for the first
few minutes.  Virginia used the Burge twins to move out to leads of 9-0 and
11-2.  After that though, Ohio State played really well to win.  The ending
was kind of scary.  Ohio State lead by 15 about midway through the second
half.  All of a sudden, they got sloppy and Virginia closed to 5.  Re-enter
Katie Smith and Ohio State reclaimed control.


>      For weeks I've been cautioning people who have been touting Ohio
> State as a Top 10 team that it's still too early in the season to tell,
> and, gosh, there are a lot of freshmen, and Nancy Darsch is still an
> unproven commodity at coach (she won a lot of games with Tara Vandeveer's
> recruits, but since then...), and, and, and...well, I've been proven wrong
> so far.

I still have my doubts about Darsch too and I agree that it's still to early
to be predicting Big10 championships.  Nonetheless, the team is a pleasant
surprise.


>         This is a *good* team and Katie Smith is a future Olympian / NCAA
> Player of the Year. Smith scored *35* points against UVa! And she's only a
> freshman! Incredible!

She was incredible.  She scored 21 in the first half using the three-pointer
very effectively.  She sat out some during the second half with foul
trouble, but when she re-entered, she picked up where she left off.  Most of
her 14 second-half points came on drives and foul shots.


>                        I just wish I had had to time to see the game
> instead of watching snippets of it on CBS. 
> Prediction: They're probably overconfident enough to lose a game soon (no
> predictions on which one), but they'll bounce back and challenge Purdue
> for the Big Ten title.

The BigTen is almost as tough in women's hoops as it is in men's.  Iowa,
Purdue, Penn State, and Ohio State are all in the top 20 with OSU being the
lowest ranked of the four (previous #20) and sure to move up.  We could see
four BigTen teams in the top 12 or so pretty soon.

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444 Hoes Lane RRC 1B-209
Piscataway, NJ 08854

"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat
 and wrong." - H.L. Mencken
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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Rich Manning
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:36:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
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jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:

>To Chris or anyone else who can help:
    ^^^^^
Sure, anything you need John.

>What's the deal with the Richmeister?  Does it look like he's going
>to play on Saturday?  A lot of the students here (including myself)
>are wondering whether or not we should come prepared with our usual
>fake mustaches and razors. :)

No, no, no.  All you need to bring is some beer to cry in.  :-)

Seriously, he is still listed as questionable.  He was walking fine on
Monday night at the game, but I assume he had a brace on underneath his
trousers.  He was supposed to try practicing yesterday, but I don't know
how well that went.  I probably won't find out until Saturday morning.

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   There is no such thing as "rock bottom".
University of Washington      *   
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: jmk.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Jim Kirkman)
Subject: Re: Trash talking %^$#@*)(
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:09:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.222503.22994@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.212041.22544@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
>rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>> 
>> >Orin Day:
>> >
>> >> A recent radio report stated that the Georgia football coach thought
>> >> that the most serious problem in college sport was trash talking.
>> >> Opinions?
>> >
>> 
>> A problem, maybe, but THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM in college athletics???
>> 
>> Not hardly.
>
>Rob's response was mine, and the opinion of Ira Melman (the talk show host
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^
Is this guy any relation to the famed BUD MELMAN?, in fact it 
must be the same guy!!, isn't it Ira 'Bud' Melman

L.P.

>on WTEM) as well.  It can be a problem as it can lead to fights, but if
>officials deal with it properly, it shouldn't.  In my opinion, the most
>serious problem is players not getting an education - if a player
>bolts early to the pros, I don't fault them, but note that 44% of the
>hardship football players weren't even drafted over 5 years.
>
>--
>************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
>Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
>Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
>*******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******
From: fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Maryland stops Montross
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:40:31 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


	After watching Eric Montross set a school-record scoring pace in the
first eight minutes of the Maryland-UNC game Saturday, the Terps wised up to
the Tar Heel attack and virtually shut him down.  Montross had 12 points before
the second tv timeout, but finished the game with fewer than 20, only one field
goal coming in the second half.
	How did the Terps do it? anti-Carolina strategists might wonder?
	Simple.  They turned up the full-court trapping defense.  Maryland
threw everything they had on defense into the backcourt.
	As one of the primary inbounds pass receivers in the Carolina backcourt,
Montross never had time to set up in his formidable low-post position.
	Of course, UNC shredded the defense for the most part, thanks to well-
considered outlet passes by Montross and company, leading to easy two-on-ones
once the ball crossed hafcourt.
*****
	The Tar Heels got off to a typical slow start [;-)], scoring 12 points
before the first clock stoppage.
*****
	Maryland gave a perfect example of what happens to teams when they 
*don't* call a time out when Carolina goes on one of its runs.
	In the second half, the Terps had cut the Carolina lead to 14 (seemed
like 12, but the 'papers said they never got closer than 14), when Carolina
started one of its typical spurts.
	As the Heels rallied, I bet every armchair coach in Jefferson Pilotland
was signalling for the TO, but guess what:  Maryland had already used them all.
	By the time the ball found an out-of-bounds, the Tar Heels' lead was
pushing 30, and the game was effectively over.

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From: bobj@meaddata.com (Robert Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Any news on Notre Dame basketball?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 15:27:56 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.meaddata.com


In article <1993Jan9.071417.5273@leland.Stanford.EDU>, gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
|> 
|> How are the teams doing?  Why is it so hard to find out?

The Irish men are now 6-5 after beating Dayton by 5 in one of the most
lack-luster, ugly games I have ever seen.  UD is now 1-11 including a
loss to a Div II team.  Does MacLeod have any offensive concept
whatsoever?  I don't think I saw more than one or two ND players move
at a time ever.  I thought MacLeod was supposed to bring an up tempo
pro style offense to ND.  The one highlight was ND frosh ? Hoover was
unconcious shooting three pointers.  What has happened to Billy
Taylor?  Last year I thought he would be decent, Saturday he did not
impress me at all.  The Ross twins are not good, ND does not hustle,
and they don't have a good point gaurd.  Monty Williams showed flashes
of talent but was a nonfactor for much of the game.  It could be a
long season (or a long couple of years, unless Macleod gets some
decent recruits.)

|> Sure they're not ranked (I assume), but with all the posts here
|> about powers such as Augustana, Chicago State, South West Eastern State U.
|> etc., why the total blackout on ND? Even when I saw games listed against
|> New Orleans in the Sugar Bowl tourney, U.S.C. and Xavier in the paper,
|> I have not been able to find game results anywhere!
|> Help!!!
|> Are the women playing Stanford this year?
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Greg Sroka
|> Menlo Park, CA

-- 
Robert Jones   bobj@meaddata.com   Mead Data Central     Dayton, Ohio
"Driving an MG in competition is more than just starting out in a
worn-out old car, it's a symbol of rebellion against authority and convention,
the automotive equivalent of a little guy with a sling and an attitude
squaring off against the toughest opponent his enemies can offer."
   -Scott Fisher
From: baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Iowa-Indiana thoughts
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:49:34 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1993Jan8.195357.3343@news.uiowa.edu>, wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:
> mfrwq@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Robert W. Quesal) writes:
> : 
> : Perhaps the Hawks looked so bad because this was their first game
> : against a team with any talent.  Their nonconference schedule was a
> : joke--no way to get ready for the Big 10.  They'll probably have a long
> 
> You are correct sir!  We have a winner!  No one is advocating playing every
> single member of the top 10 on their own home courts, but would it really 
> hurt to schedule 3-4 legitimate top 20 teams?  I suspect if the NCAA ever
> gets away from the magic '20 wins to the tourney' formula regardless of who
> you beat, maybe we will see this.  In Iowa's defense (something I really 
> hate to do) Indiana did look pretty bad as well.  Could Iowa have had some
> thing to do with this?

A couple of things.  The pushing back of the season's start until December 1
makes it difficult to schedule top-notch teams because of limited slots.
Also, Iowa does have on their non-conference schedule a Iowa State team
(pre-season top 20) and Duke.  Once again the limited preseason time forced
that game to be held in January.  Iowa always schedules one of the pre season
tournaments (Maui, Great Alskan, NIT...) This year they went to the San Juan
Shootout and they cannot be blamed for the other teams that were invited
there.  So Tom Davis usually schedules a tough assignment (witness Duke, North
Carolina, Arizona...) Iowa State and a pre-conference Tourney.  Not that
challenging but certainly not the worst

BB
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Biased Fans / Bad Refs
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:19:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.174041.25020@jmb2.jmb.com> lewism@jmb2.jmb.com (Mike  
Lewis) writes:

> Duke fans are another group who impress me with their spirit of fair play.
> In fact, I've been surprised on a number of occasions to hear the Dookies
> boo a bad call against the other team.  I believe this happened several
> times during last year's UNC game ;-)

I don't know if you are kidding or not, but this did happen at
last year's ACC tournament finals.  And if not in the student
section at Cameron, there is certainly discussion and loud
comments from us folk upstairs directed at Dick and Company
whichever way the bad call goes.  

--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
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From: ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Update (1-8-93)
Keywords: Big Ten
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:36:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.022707.4686@en.ecn.purdue.edu> n9ljx@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott A Stembaugh) writes:
>>Saturday (1-9):
>>
>>	(I'd like to tell you which games are on the Big Ten/Raycom
>>	Game(s) of the Week, but I don't know myself!  The two I have
>>	the times for aren't)
>>
>>	Illinois at Michigan State (7 pm Central)
>>	Penn State at Indiana
>
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Raycom 4 pm central

Actually, it's 4 pm EST.

--
Dave Seaman
ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:19:59 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <726782931@stego.cs.duke.edu> rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
>your nose in with his elbow, that that's not a foul either.  Mackey didn't
>move so that he could give a forearm to the head, that's just where Hurley ran
>into him at.  Mackey did have a slight forward motion of his arm, but
>it seemed more reflexive than anything.

BFD, it doesn't matter if it was reflexive or not.  I agree that it
wasn't intentional (I hope), but he definitely did swing his arm out.
That's a big difference -- if he had kept still the foul would have been
on Hurley, if anyone (but probably would have been a no-call).  Dumb
move by Mackey.  I remember a similar series in '88 or '89 where Quin
Snyder was bringing the ball upcourt against some team with a small,
quick guard who was giving him trouble.  Coach K posted Danny Ferry out
at midcourt to give Snyder a screen to help him get the ball over.
Well, three times in a row this little guy ran full speed into Ferry and
got decked.  After the third time he had to be helped off the court.
The point being, as long as he kept stationary (and didn't take a swing
at the guy), he didn't foul him.  That's not what Mackey did.

- Rob Mac K


-- 
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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: Re: Who's almost isn't no. 1 :) Re: Who's Number 2?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:30:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.124715.648@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

>Hey, is this guy a Boilerweenie or Goober Clueless agent planted by Steve
>or Goob at Northwestern to embarass IU?  This is good, guys.

Boilerweenie...  Ma, can I go to back to tippacanoe where the sky is blue
like the cheese in Madisoneaux...

				-- Marek
Die, Badgers.
(Gentlemen badgers, that is...)


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From: acfrodo@IASTATE.EDU ()
Subject: RE: Iowa-Indiana & Lotsa Stuff
Reply-To: acfrodo@IASTATE.EDU ()
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:00:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.193915.9730@iscsvax.uni.edu>, baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
writes:
> In article <1993Jan9.083417@IASTATE.EDU>, acfrodo@IASTATE.EDU () writes:
> > 
> > I think that is was about time that an overrated Iowa team(what's new) got
a
> > good dose of reality.  They are a good team, but #8 please.  I think that
the
> > Big Ten schedule and the game with Duke will show the true Iowa team, more
than
> > 10 games vs. creampuff teams, ie Amana Hawkeye Classic (get real).
> 
> They cannot help all of those games, I think they are required to play Iowa
> State.  :-)
> 
> BB
> 

And UNI?  I obviously thought they had played 11 non-con games +ISU. }=)

TF
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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: UM-Purdue TV?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 11:19:30 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

>> : 	I see ESPN is carrying the big Illinois-Northwestern
>
>>  Whoever did this bit of scheduling at ESPN deserves the "Bonehead
>>  Move of the Year Award".
>
>I wouldn't be suprised if their Big-10+1 TV agreement states that
>ESPN must show at least one game from each team's home arena - so
>they are getting Penn State and Northwestern out of the way in the
>first week of conference play :)
>

Too bad they chose to do it now.  The UM-Purdue game was excellent:
a good showcase for Robinson - he's for real!!
 
It was a real tight game.  I like Purdue's chances in the tournament
if they can consistently get the outside shot.
 
Michigan's depth looks like it'll be an advantage right thru March.
As long as they get decent bench play, they'll be tough to beat.
 
--
Bryan.Luedy@um.cc.umich.edu
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From: HUDSONJK@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu ()
Subject: WBB: Tennessee v. Vanderbilt on nat'l TV?
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:52:15 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Anyone know if the Tennessee-Vanderbilt women's basketball game will be
televised on a national basis?  I'll probably be in a Philadelphia hotel room
during the game, and I really want to see this.

Thanks in advance,

Keith Hudson

P.S.  I saw the VU-Memphis State men's game.  *How* many steals did MSU have? 
Twenty?  Thirty?

P.P.S.  Ever notice how every side of The Pyramid look the same?  
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Anyone have FSU-UVA summary?
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:28:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.173842.7416@mlb.semi.harris.com> dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com writes:
>
>I caught the late score and saw that FSU lost (80 - 76)? to Virginia.  How
>did this game go?  Did Charlie Ward play at all?


Yeah, I saw the game last night on ESPN. I must say, I _REALLY_ like UVa's
new fast break look...it suits thier team's name much more than the old slow
shit they used to play. The game was close throughout, with numerous lead
changes and ties. FSU played very tired throughout the game up until the last
few minutes. Again, FSU is showing itself to be apt to play very sloppy. FSU
missed half-a-dozen or so easy fast break opportunities be botching an easy
lay-up, missing a dunk (!), travelling, or some other stupid mitake. Also,
FSU was again unable to stop the three point shooters (something that killed
them against UF the previous game). The game pretty much came down to a three
point free throw situation by Bob Sura. Last year Stith choked for UVa, this
year it was Sura's turn.

As for Charlie Ward, yes he did play. In fact, he played a _LOT_ more minutes
in the game than I was expecting him to do. Charlie did seem to be a bit
tired on the court (still not in shape yet), and it looked like he wasn't
really sure of what was going on (seemed almost out of place). Charlie is a
great athlete though, and he made a few good defensive plays, and did a decent
job setting up the offense. He did, however, make some uncharacteristic (for
him) bad plays in the game as well. 

This is almost a repeat of what happened last year. FSU lost to UVa early on,
then when Ward was back in sinc with the team (from the Wake game on), things
started happening. I only hope things DO repeat again. 

Kevin
From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Anti-Woofing Gods (actually UA over UCLA, but don't tell)
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:27:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ


I am well aware that the Anti-Woofing Gods are listening.

If I were to make a statement about the Arizona win over UCLA at Pauley 
Pavilion last night, it might go something like: "Wow!  Excellent Win! 
Big-time victory in the PAC-10!

But since I know that the AW-Gods pay specific attention to Arizona 
(and me) I will only say: "That was a marvelous game.  41-40 at the 
half and 82-80 at the buzzer.  What a game."

Ted

-- 
So the Maples formed a union, and demanded equal rights, "The Oaks are just 
too greedy.  We will make them give us light!"  Now there's no more Oak 
oppression, for they passed a noble law.  And the trees are all kept equal, 
by hatchet, axe and saw.     -  Rush, The Trees
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: #1 Kentucky hits the road
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:01:19 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <8491@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>In article <1ir712INNrem@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>>are the only unbeaten teams left.  UK faces 3 straight road games in the
>>SEC: Vandy, Alabama, and South Carolina, then they entertain LSU at home.  I
>>guess we'll know what the Cats are made of shortly!
>
><Sarcasm On.>
>
>Boy, THOSE should be a couple of toughies.
>
><Sarcasm Off.>
>
>- Rob Mac K

Anybody who thinks that it is "easy" to get a win over Vanderbilt or
Alabama on their home courts knows too little about basketball to be
allowed to post to this newsgroup.  Anyone who thinks it is "easy" for
a team to play 3 consecutive conference games on the road doesn't 
know anything about traveling.

Extra clue:  Vanderbilt is still #23 in the CNN/USA Today poll for this
week.  Not exactly chopped liver.

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