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From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
Subject: Dream Theatre's singer (new fan wants info)
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:09:24 GMT

In article <8DEC199214074460@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu>, ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (STEP OUT OF THE CAR PLEASE) writes:

   (ON DREAM THEATRE)
> I spoke with their drum tech before the show.  He called himself 'Slash'.  He
> said that John Arch of Fates Warning had indeed rehearsed with the band when
>they were looking for a singer.He said they had written several songs and the
>band loved him.But,he had a full-time job and a wife and kids to support so
>he was unable to tour.  This is also supposedly the reason he left Fates'.  Oh
> well, what a tragedy!
> 
> NadsteR
> 

I just saw an interview with DREAM THEATRE on Canada's Much Music. The new
guy is Canadian and came from a band called Winter Rose. I was this really
CHEAP video (a DEMO video no less) of one of their songs, and it was so
professional I wondered why they never "made it". The music from the original
song came back into my head as they talked "you'll never see the tears I
cry, I'll never fall in love again.....". Really good.

    Anyways, that was the VERY FIRST time I saw Dream Theatre, and I was
absolutely enthralled about it  (Pull me under, Pull me under... I'm not
afraid). Heavy bass, great harmonies, keyboards and innovative drumming,
and the vocals of James Labrie of Winter Rose. Reminds me of the time I
saw "Eye's of a Stranger" by Queensryche and within a month had all of 
their tapes. They said that they didn't want to be pigeonholed as one
of the "progressive" dinorsaur bands of the 70's (Rush, Yes) and saw
themselves as a metal band (with brains, too!).

    Anyways, after the short lived fame of Winter Rose, Labrie tried
out in New York for the band. Voila, the new lead singer of the
band.

     I need the following information: the complete discography of
both Fates Warning AND Dream Theatre plus information on musicians in
both groups. After Queensryche (earlier stuff), these guys are the
best metal "progressive" bands today. And I want to complete my record
collection. So please, forward me the appropriate information, especially
regarding Dream Theatre. They are just great. Post it or e-mail it, 
I don't care. I want it anyways.    

 
-- 

John P. LaRocque
vader@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario


"Urk..urk..."
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa", Darth Vader
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From: GEN3037@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (DARREN JOHNSON)
Subject: Re: The ex-Cult Matt Sorum
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:18:18 GMT
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> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
> 
> >In article <92345.230203TPL105@psuvm.psu.edu> <TPL105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >>     Another Cult question, from the (seemingly) only die-hard fan in PA.
> >>The GN'R drummer Matt Sorum is supposedly from The Cult (I heard Ian say
> >>so on a radio interview) but does anyone know on which album he appears?
> >>I can't find his name on any of the credits...?
> 
> >He hasn't recorded with them unless it was a b-side or live recording since
> >SONIC TEMPLE's release because since the Southern Death Cult days (before
> >Astbury changed their name and Jamie Stewart dropped guitar to play bass)
> >they've been using only session players. Well, maybe LOVE had a "permanent
> >member" on drums. Where's Stewart, anyway?
> 
> >BTW, to answer your question, Matt Sorum toured with The Cult as their drummer
> >for the tour promoting SONIC TEMPLE.

> By the way, does anyone know what The Cult is up to?  The last I heard,
> they were being sued for some astronomical number of dollars, something like
> $10 million.   I have heard the song they put out on the 'COOL WORLD'
> soundtrack called 'The Witch'.......a pretty cool song for the band considering
> the CEREMONY thing was quite a dissapointment....
> 

Why is the Cult being discussed in a progressive music group? Maybe Dream Time
and Love could be considered progressive, but not anything since. BTW I wasn't
at all disappointed with Ceremony (although not as good as Sonic Temple).
White and Wonderland , IMHO, are close to the best songs they have ever put
out (my favs are Fire Woman, N.Y.C rock mix and the extend play to Sweet Soul
Sister).

Also has anyone have their EP release The Manor Sessions, I think for the 
most part the song where much better than Electric's versions.




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From: rglass@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Raymond Glass)
Subject: Re: DREAM THEATER FANS, READ THIS *NOW*
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:04:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.210316.4040@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:
> In article <1gcd9vINNehd@rodan.UU.NET> ender@rodan.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh) writes:
> >I hope you are reading this on Saturday Dec. 12th.  Why?  Because the video
> >for "Pull Me Under" world premieres on Headbangers' Ball tonight/  I just
> >got back from the Dream Theater show at Hammerjacks in Baltimore, MD. and
> 
> So did they end up showing the vid?  I got about the first two hours of
> HBB taped, but didn't the video during the first 2/3.  Was it played
> later?  What did Ricky Rachtman (sp?) have to say about them?

It got played around 1:30 or so (est). RR didn't say anything about
them. He just gave the intro ..and here is Dream Theater with Pull Me
Under. Or something similar to that. I fell asleep just as the vid was
ending, maybe he said something about them then.
 
[stuff and .sig deleted]

-Ray
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From: mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd)
Subject: Re: DREAM THEATER FANS, READ THIS *NOW*
Originator: mds5142@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:03:16 GMT

In article <1gcd9vINNehd@rodan.UU.NET> ender@rodan.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh) writes:
>I hope you are reading this on Saturday Dec. 12th.  Why?  Because the video
>for "Pull Me Under" world premieres on Headbangers' Ball tonight/  I just
>got back from the Dream Theater show at Hammerjacks in Baltimore, MD. and

So did they end up showing the vid?  I got about the first two hours of
HBB taped, but didn't the video during the first 2/3.  Was it played
later?  What did Ricky Rachtman (sp?) have to say about them?

I'll be sure to catch it all next weekend! (Tape it, anyway, since I'll be
at the Rochester SHOW!)

Dream on,
Mike
-- 
Michael Shepherd ++ mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu ++ shepherd.wbst129@xerox.com
* From the pain come the dream, From the dream come the vision, From the *
* vision come the people, And from the people come the power, From this  *
* power come the change.  - P. Gabriel                                   *
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From: abaio@pica.army.mil (Angelo Baio (AEC) <abaio>)
Subject: Two Questions
Organization: U.S. Army  Armament Research Development & Engineering Center, Dover NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:20:33 GMT



    Hi People:


        Does anyone know what L.A.Guns are doing?  Also does anyone know what
happened to the group Hurricane? Thanks in advance

  P.s. Hey Judex how you doing man?

                                                          Angie From Brooklyn
                                                          abaio@pica.army.mil


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From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Images and Words
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:24:49 GMT


Finally bought the new Dream Theater CD. I got When Dream And Day
Unite at the time when it came out and have been listening to it 
quite a lot.
After 1st four listens I&W sounds awesome. Especially Pull me under,
Take The Time and Metropolis are great. James LaBrie is far better
singer than Charles Dominici, at times he sounds exactly like
Sebastian Bach from Skid Row. He's got similar roughness in his 
otherwise beautiful voice, while Dominici had thinner, more polished 
vocals. Maybe it's because I got WD&DU on vinyl, but I&W sounds 
also better produced, I don't know. But somehow I like better the
old stuff on WD&DU (songs like Killing Hand and Light Fuse And Get away),
it's more in the progressive vein. I wouldn't like to start a flame 
war about commercialism and stuff, but I&W is far more accessible
and straight forward (Another Day sounds a bit cheesy to me) than 
WD&DU, which propably explains DT's recent success. 
I think it takes a few more listens before I can decide which one
I like better.

From under the Glass Moon,
Maza

.
Yeah, I know the times are bad
When it's hard to run, nowhere to hide
All I got left is a bread and a bottle of wine
And I'm feeling fine...(Masters Of Reality/Gettin' High)
From: veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theater in Boston
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:35:45 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec16.004621.28050@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu>, rglass@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Raymond Glass) writes...
> 
>Dream Theater is playing at Axis tommorow night (12/16). Tix are seven
>bucks and are only being sold at the door. Several friends who saw them
>when they played here last tell me they put on a killer performance. Not
>a show to be missed!
> 
>-Ray
>-- 

Actually, tickets are also being sold by Ticketmaster (pay cash in person at
any or most any TM local "dealer" or call their 'pay credit' # in MA...)  If
you call into TM and buy your tix by charge, the tickets will be waiting for
you at the door.

Your friends are right, Ray.  They did put on an absolute killer performance
in October, when they were last in the Boston area.

I'll be there for sure tomorrow night!  Way psyched!!!

-- KSV
From: johnb@ocean.rutgers.edu (Dog Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: The ex-Cult Matt Sorum
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:14:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

GEN3037@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (DARREN JOHNSON) writes:

>Why is the Cult being discussed in a progressive music group? Maybe Dream Time
>and Love could be considered progressive, but not anything since. BTW I wasn't
>at all disappointed with Ceremony (although not as good as Sonic Temple).
>White and Wonderland , IMHO, are close to the best songs they have ever put
>out (my favs are Fire Woman, N.Y.C rock mix and the extend play to Sweet Soul
>Sister).

>Also has anyone have their EP release The Manor Sessions, I think for the 
>most part the song where much better than Electric's versions.




>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Darren Johnson            |  Sign in desert: "Get out Groo!"
> Halifax, Nova Scotia      |  Groo: "No fishing????"
> Canada. (902) 425-8189    |  
> gen3037@husky1.stmarys.ca |  
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well gee, I guess I'll save my Cult discussions for another day then, eh?
Only talk DREAMTIME and LOVE?  Sounds like the Cult discussion rules for
alt.gothic.......

By the way, I think the Manor Sessions mix sucks.  Can't even hear the damn
drums on songs like 'Electric Ocean' and 'Outlaw' (That doesn't do justice 
for Les Warner, who was a damn good drummer).  Too much crap going on
at once in the mix.  Too much effects on Ian's voice too.  Steve Brown
(Love producer) wasn't the man to lead the Cult in the
direction they wanted to go...IMO

Well, can't talk about post-Manor sessions stuff in this newsgroup 'cause
it's not considered 'progressive'.....   

If anyone would ever like to talk Cult (yes, even ELECTRIC can be discussed)
just e-mail me......I don't even give a shit if it's a flame. 

(Frustrated Cult fan)
oooooola-la
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From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: More on Pull Me Under
Date: 11 Dec 1992 14:17:46 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

Having read the discussions of last week about the ending of Pull Me
Under, and people saying it was about death & all.  Well, at the show in
DC (The Bayou), a friend and I were talking with Jon Petrucci upstairs
before the show, and while talking about getting radio stations to play
their stuff recently, he mentioned "Yeah, it seems kind of odd that
everyone's favorite tune seems to be the song on the album about
suicide."  Guess we were closer than we thought.

Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
smm@uunet.uu.net                  uunet!smm
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From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater: Petrucci question..
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:47:49 GMT

In article <92351.140110EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>    When I first bought DT's I&W, the name Petrucci seemed to be SO familiar
>to me. A friend of mine said the same, so I figured I would see what other
>bands he may have played lead guitar for.  Is there another Petrucci out in
>the music industry that I may be thinking of?

You *MIGHT* be thinking of a female Petrucci - Remember the band Madam X 
from some 8-9 years back ?? It featured the sisters Maxine (I think) and 
Roxy Petrucci on guitar and drums respectively. Roxy went on to play in 
Vixen and now has a band of her own. Can't remember the name. Madam X were 
awful, but had a hit of some sorts with "High in High School". It must have 
been around the time when T.S had their Stay Hungry album out. 

>                                     -Ed

Nomad

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From: veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Images and Words
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:09:50 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec16.122449.5654@nntp.hut.fi>, m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis) writes...
> 
>Take The Time and Metropolis are great. James LaBrie is far better
>singer than Charles Dominici, at times he sounds exactly like
>Sebastian Bach from Skid Row. He's got similar roughness in his 
>otherwise beautiful voice, while Dominici had thinner, more polished 

	I agree completely... James LaBrie has one of *the* best voices in
music... (heavy metal or otherwise).

>vocals. Maybe it's because I got WD&DU on vinyl, but I&W sounds 
>also better produced, I don't know. But somehow I like better the

	I agree here too... I&W *is* better produced... (imo)

>and straight forward (Another Day sounds a bit cheesy to me) than 

	*chuckle* Well, if you like H-M ballads, then you'll like "Another
Day"... I don't think it sounds cheesy at all...

	The whole album ROOLZ!!!!!!! :)

-- Kristy
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From: gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater: Petrucci question..
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:50:06 GMT


>    When I first bought DT's I&W, the name Petrucci seemed to be SO familiar
>to me. A friend of mine said the same, so I figured I would see what other
>bands he may have played lead guitar for.  Is there another Petrucci out in
>the music industry that I may be thinking of?

You're probably thinking of John Pattituci, bass god.  I remember seeing his
name on a few covers in big letters a few years ago, and going "wow!  people
*do* know who he is", but it wasn't the guy I thought it was.



>    Also, I'm going to see DT on January 15th in Pittsburgh. How long of a set
>do they play? Also, how much of the new and old do they play, because I
>currently have just I&W, and am working on getting a copy of "When the Day &.."

When I saw them recently, "Ytse Jam" and "The Killing Hand" were the only songs
from _When Dream and Day Unite_ that they played, but they were both VERY well
done, especially "Killing Hand".  It's worth hearing the old versions just to
hear what a difference a real singer can make.



s
From: ender@rodan.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: DREAM THEATER FANS, READ THIS *NOW*
Date: 12 Dec 1992 05:01:35 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
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NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

I hope you are reading this on Saturday Dec. 12th.  Why?  Because the video
for "Pull Me Under" world premieres on Headbangers' Ball tonight/  I just
got back from the Dream Theater show at Hammerjacks in Baltimore, MD. and
spoke with Mike (drummer) and Kevin (keyboardist) after the show.  Mike
confirmed that the vid premieres tonight.  He said it was kind of put
together at the last minute, is compiled from live footage (you can bet
I'll be looking for me in the vid! =), and is an editted version of the
song (I guess  the radio version, or similar)  The next vid will be "Take
the Time" and vids are planned for "Another Day" and "Surrounded".

UK/EUROPE FANS!! - Thanks to my rommie remembering you asking about UK/EURO
dates we have an answer, of sorts.  Mike says it IS in the works and should
be starting around mid February.  No dates, cities, or anything currently
available.  If I find out more I'll be sure to post.

A little about the show before I fall into bed from exhaustion.  Some of
you may remember me posting a set list from their first appearance at the
Bayou in Washington, D.C. (all of I&W, "The Killing Hand", "Ytse Jam",
"Matter of Time", and three instrumental fills/segues called "Moonbubbles",
"Another Hand", and "Piano").  Tonight's set was exactly the same, albeit
slightly rearranged, with one NOTABLE exception -- The first song of their
encore was their own rendition of "Oh Holy Night", which James said was an
early Christmas gift for us.  It was simply incredible!!  I *THINK* they'll
be playing it at all the shows between now and the 19th (Rochester, NY)
Mike said they used to do this with Charlie, but the Hammerjacks show was
the first time James has done it...  EVER.  He didn't even practice it with
them, and the lines to the song (or perhaps just parts of them, as order
reminders) were taped to both of James' monitors.  It was astounding and
beautiful.  I never would have guessed that James hadn't done it at least a
dozen times with them.

An incredible show...  if you can catch them before the 19th do so!  This
show was better than their first Bayou show... and I didn't think that was
possible!

Also, please bombard MTV with calls on Monday, and after, requesting "Pull
Me Under".  Let's get this into HEAVY ROTATION...  make it number one on
"Most Wanted" or whatever the hell they're calling it these days.

Ender

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From: S_TILLENBURG@iravcl.ira.uka.de (|S| Stephan Tillenburg)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Dream Theater: The YTSE JAM
Date: 15 Dec 1992 17:16:10 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe (FRG) - Informatik Rechnerabt.
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Hi Dream Theater fans
I was always wondering what a strange title The YTSE JAM is.
Read it backwards and remember the Demo.

Bye Stephan
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From: rglass@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Raymond Glass)
Subject: Re: Cult legal troubles [was The ex-Cult Matt Sorum]
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:48:22 GMT

In article <Dec.11.12.20.01.1992.8804@ocean.rutgers.edu>, johnb@ocean.rutgers.edu (Dog Jones) writes:

[a lot of stuff deleted]
> 
> By the way, does anyone know what The Cult is up to?  The last I heard,
> they were being sued for some astronomical number of dollars, something like
> $10 million.   I have heard the song they put out on the 'COOL WORLD'
> soundtrack called 'The Witch'.......a pretty cool song for the band considering
> the CEREMONY thing was quite a dissapointment....
> 
[.sig deleted]

I remember reading about the suit. It is alledged that the band used the
picture of the Indian boy which appears on the Ceremony cover illegally-
supposedly they didn't get a release. The boys parents feel he is being
exploited, although the lyrical content and Ian's comments prior to its
release doesn't substantiate this. But as far as Ceremony goes- it was
a disapointment.


-Ray
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From: pigli@taloa.unice.fr Marillion are the best
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Subject: Marillion
Date: 9 Dec 92 10:21:12 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
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Hi ,all progressive people !!!
I've got some help because i'm trying to find MARILLION's images but without succes.
If someone want to lead me in my quest ....

Thanks and hold on Rock Progressive.
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From: ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (STEP OUT OF THE CAR PLEASE)
Subject: The CULT
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:04:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services

Nothing the CULT has put out can touch the album Electric.  Put on your AXE 
and WAIL!!!!!!!

NadsteR  

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From: breitweg@phys.ksu.edu (a nice guy)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Metallica and Iron Maiden Questions?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:08:33 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
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Hi All,

I am looking for concert info on Metallica dn Iron Maiden.  I know that 
Metallica is doing dates in Europes now but are they going to be coming
back to the states (ezpecially New England) any time soon.  I also need to
know what Iron Maiden is up to.  When they did their latest American tour 
they didn't even get to the East Coast.  What are they doing now, and when
and if are they coming back to the States?  If anybody out there could 
provide me with soem dates for the above I would appreciate it very much.
Hope to hear from all of you.

Sincerely,
Jason Breitweg
jbreitwe@polar.bowdoin.edu

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