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From: khans@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (sanjay.a.khan)
Subject: Looking for copy of Classical Mechanics by Corben & Stehle
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:19:47 GMT
Keywords: Classical Mechanics, Corben Stehle


I am looking to buy a new/used copy of the classic:

                           Classical Mechanics

                                   by

                            Corben and Stehle

Any information on where I can get one will be appreciated.

Sanjay Khan
AT&T Bell Labs


Newsgroups: misc.books.technical
From: matrix@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Dunn)
Subject: NEW TECH BOOK ON VIRTUAL REALITY, FOREWORD BY JARON LANIER
Organization: Matrix Information Services
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:53:27 GMT



There is a new book available on the topic of VR.



       SILICON MIRAGE: THE ART AND SCIENCE OF VIRTUAL REALITY
            by Steven Aukstakalnis and David Blatner

   FOREWORD BY JARON LANIER, FOUNDER AND CHIEF SCIENTIST, VPL RESEARCH.




The first two paragraphs of the Foreword read as follows:


"Reading this book is a delight for me because it fills a suprisingly
long-standing gap in the literature of virtual reality. For the
enormous amount of interest and activity that virtual reality has 
inspired over the last few years, it is absolutely remarkable that I 
have had no book to recommend to people who come to me with the simple
question, 'What can I read to understand what this is all about?' I
feel that now there is such a book, and you are holding it in your hands.

Silicon Mirage is organized around the human sense organs, and this is
entirely appropriate. Virtual reality is distinct from other 
configurations of computer technology in that it places the human being
in the center. When we work with virtual reality systems, we begin with 
the question, "What, exactly, is a human body and how might we design
a machine that will most comfortably suit the natural modes of 
perception and action of a person?" So I am delighted to see an 
exposition that starts with the human body and nervous system and treats
the virtual reality equipment as transient attempts to mirror that
biological invarient."
----

In a clear, easy to understand style, Silicon Mirage covers everything
from the underlying mechanisms of sight, hearing and the sense of touch,
through the design of head-mounted displays, binaural 3-D sound, and
tactile/force feedback devices. There are also chapters on the human 
factors considerations of immersive VR systems, applications from a 
broad cross-section of industries and more.


SILICON MIRAGE: THE ART AND SCIENCE OF VIRTUAL REALITY
by Aukstakalnis and Blatner

328 pgs, 120+ photos and illus, 4 pgs. color plates, pub Nov. 1992
by Peachpit Press (ISBN 0-938151-82-7).

PRICE: $15.00

Available at bookstores across N. America the day after Thanksgiving
or immed. by sending a check or money order for $15.00 + $5 for 
P/H to:


Matrix Information Services
Book Dept. 
18560 Bungalow Drive
Lathrup Village, MI 48076
(313) 559-1526
(313) 559-1436 (Fax)
matrix@well.sf.ca.us


Newsgroups: misc.books.technical
Subject: Re: ENVISIONING INFORMATION
Organization: I.E.C.C.
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:54:20 EST (Mon)
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)

>I'm looking for some information on a book called _Envisioning_Information_.
>If you know anything about this book, please let me know.

Edward R. Tufte, ``Envisioning Information,'' Graphics Press, 1990.

It's available from bookstores or direct from the publisher for $48,
Graphics Press, PO Box 430, Cheshire CT 06410.  The author's previous
book ``The Visual Display of Quantitative Information,'' is also highly
recommended, $36 from the same place.

Both are beautifully produced books about charts, graphs, and all sorts of
visual display of information.  Neither have anything to do with computers
except for the fact that most charts and graphs are produced on computers
these days.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: imtst@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (I-Ming Tsai)
Newsgroups: misc.books.technical
Subject: How to contact O'Reilly via E-mail.
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:44:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: imtst@icarus.lis.pitt.edu

Hi:
	I need some info on how to buy the books from O'Reilly,
	what e-mail address should I contact ?
	I remember it is something like "book-request.ora.com",
	I am not sure....
	Any information will be appreciated.
-- Tsai
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Where is the best place to stick it?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:30:39 GMT

jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:

>Steven R. Pearson <pearson_steven@tandem.com> writes:

>	it might be wise to pay off any expensive debt you have ...

>I see this all the time, and I just don't understand it.  The way I see
>it, current debt service is just a cash-flow item.  If I were a
>student, living a student life, and I suddenly inherited $100k, I sure
>as heck wouldn't pay down my credit cards.  All that would do is
>decrease dramatically my $100k, and increase only marginally my cash
>flow.  

It would be a good way to make 19% on your money, tax-free, risk-free.

-Larry Watanabe watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: calinski@calspan.com (Peter Calinski)
Subject: Why the drop for 3COM ?
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:45:09 GMT

I see that 3COM dropped over a dollar on Fri.   Anybody hear a reason?
Prodigy came up empty.

Thanks

Pete
calinski@calspan.com

Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: fen@cs.columbia.edu (Francis Fen Ho)
Subject: IRA again
Followup-To: fih1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: fih1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:31:59 GMT

a lot of companies do not allow you to participate in their 401K program
until, usually, you work a full year or the january of the following year

my question is:  are you allowed to put the full $2K into an IRA
in that time frame and  situation? (while you haven't been with the company to
qualify for the 401K?)

thanks,

f92

ps. reply to fih1@cunixA.cc.columbia.edu


Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: RKSHUKLA@SUVM.SYR.EDU (Ravi Shukla)
Subject: Careers in reverse mortgages
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:05:44 EST

One of my students sent me the following query.
 
  I might have a chance to get in on the ground floor of the reverse
  mortgages market working with one of the leading national figures in the
  area (I'm friends with his kid). What kind of a future do you see in
  this area?
 
Since I do not have any practical experience in reverse mortgages, I am asking
your help in providing some lead to the student.
 
Thank you
Ravi Shukla
From: nmodi@klinzhai.rutgers.edu (Nirav Modi)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: GM card (was Re: FORD visa vs. DISCOVER)
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:27:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

pcr@quasar.genrad.com (Perry Rothermel) writes:



>How does one get a GM card?
Dial
1 800 8GM CARD
-Nirav
From: chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Rising interest and bond funds
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:59:10 GMT
Reply-To: chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
Organization: Intel-Corp,_Hillsboro,_Oregon

In article <1992Nov14.172311.19429@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, louns@cs.washington.edu (Michael Lounsbery) writes:
|> 
|> What would be a good investment in a bear market, when interest rates will
|> rise steadily?
|> 
Cash! 
Plain old cash in a money market account or under the mattress.

-- 
..CHEDLEY..
..!{uunet|tektronix|ogicse}!littlei!chedley    chedley@carthago.intel.com     
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and do not represent any company or organization's position.
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Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: I'd like to invest in Asia, what's the best way?
From: cctr114@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Rea)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:26:53 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Louis LECLERC (louis@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
> 
>  I don't want an Asia fund denominated in US dollars as I fear that lots of 
> new spending in the US is going to be paid for by printing money over the
> next few years. (hence inflation).

This isn't going to affect the value of your investment. If value of the
fund's portfolio in local currency is static, but the U.S. dollar falls
agsinst the local currency, then the value, in U.S. dollars, of the fund 
will increase. And vice versa. You have the problem of currency flucuations
for all foreign investments, independant of the currency the investment is
denominated in.

> Thank You;
>  
> Louis Leclerc
> louis@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

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From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Where is the best place to stick it?
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:05:52 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Eric Peterson <etpeters@dal.mobil.com> writes:

	Why hide simple math in jargon ...

Because people (*especially* college students who've just inherited
$100k) don't "do simple math" when running their day-to-day finances.
Saving is a lot like dieting: the psychology is a lot more important
than the "simple math" ...

For people who spent "too much" (indeed, this is even true for large
corporations) monthly interest paymensts are indeed cash flow.
Debt service

Sure: paying off debt and investing the rest looks good by the numbers,
but i've not seen it happen.  What I have seen is people paying off
their debt, investing the lesser amount, and then running up the debt
again -- in actuality, they replaced new debt with old debt and "spent"
the difference.  This is a dangerous position to put most people into.

So, the sure thing is that people have resources (or have found a way
to deal with the resources) to support a level of debt service for
their quality of life.  Unless they feel strapped, they are "better
off" by taking the entire "found money" and investing it and continuing
to deal with their earlier choices about how to spend money.

-----

The original poster gave his situation as being a college student with
limited needs and no savings.  My advice stands: invest the entire
$100k with a solid mix of growth and low-risk instruments, and deal
with your past spending in a way that's compatible with how you want to
live your life.  Someday (you can even make this your financial goal)
you will have better control over your debt situation (your earnings
will increase, your rent may go down, etc.) to the point where the
percentage of your monthly cash flow that's devoted to debt service
will be smaller.  At that point, you will be able to appreciate what
has happened to this $100k over the time it took you to dig out of
earlier spending sprees.

/jordan
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Investing Quickly
Date: 14 Nov 92 00:01:53 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

George B. Clark <georgec@eng.umd.edu> writes:

	Is there a quicker way? A Schwab One account, perhaps?

Data point: you can do a trade in about 5 minutes after walking into a
Schwab office.  Quick form, gimme an account, here's a check, now buy
me 100 at the market ...

/jordan
From: jack@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com (Jack Gidding)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: buying foreign currency for the little guy
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:56:50 GMT

In article <3780@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com>  
jack@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com (Jack Gidding) writes:
> In article <0BueuB3w161w@cdthq.UUCP> gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)  
> writes:
> > adwright@iastate.edu () writes:
> > 
> > I've never run across travelers' checks in other than dollar
> > denominations.
> > 
> 


Actually, a little more on the subject of investing in foreign  
currencies....

I just read that the Mark Twain Bank offers CDs in ten different  
currencies. Their number is 1-800-926-4922. 


Jack Gidding
Reuters
jack@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: etpeters@dal.mobil.com (E. T. Peterson(Eric))
Subject: Re: Where is the best place to stick it?
Organization: Mobil Exploration & Producing Technical Center(MEPTEC), Dallas. 
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:32:11 GMT

In article <5669@bacon.IMSI.COM>, jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
|> Steven R. Pearson <pearson_steven@tandem.com> writes:
|> 
|> 	it might be wise to pay off any expensive debt you have ...
|> 
|> I see this all the time, and I just don't understand it.  The way I see
|> it, current debt service is just a cash-flow item.  If I were a
|> student, living a student life, and I suddenly inherited $100k, I sure
|> as heck wouldn't pay down my credit cards.  All that would do is
|> decrease dramatically my $100k, and increase only marginally my cash
|> flow.  Since this money is indeed "found" I would have had to deal with
|> cash flow and current debt service anyway.  I should continue doing
|> that (after all, I enjoyed the goods I purchased on credit, now I
|> should pay for them).
|> 
|> I think it's important psychologically to keep your investments and
|> your quality of life separate.
|> 
|> /jordan


Why hide simple math in jargon such as "current debt service" and "cash flow"?

Say you are paying 18% on your credit card debt.  The bottom line is:  

-- If you can do better than 18% after-taxes, then invest the money.
-- If you can't do better than 18%, then pay off the credit cards.

Maybe I'm naive, but isn't the goal is to end up with as much money as possible?


***********************************************
Eric Peterson
e-mail:  etpeters@drsol1.dal.mobil.com
phone:  (214) 951-3251 
 
--  The sooner you fall behind,
           the more time you'll have to catch up! 
***********************************************
From: zhu@graphack.asd.sgi.com (Benjamin Zhu)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Real Estate Investment Trusts
Date: 15 Nov 1992 22:22:01 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: graphack.asd.sgi.com


I am looking into investing money in real estate investment trusts
(REIT) as a hedge to beat potential inflation. I am interested in
hearing other people's experience in investing in REIT.

Out of curiosity, are there no-load mutual funds specialized in
REIT? Since REIT are mostly income-driven (at least for now), I do
not see why I should pay for stock commissions if I can find no-
load REIT funds. In addition, being a novice in REIT investment
and lacking of time to do research, I can also minimize my risk 
through diversification. A good no-load fund is definitely a win. 

Please respond by emails. Thanks in advance.

Ben

--
Benjamin Zhu             ;;; Priest of ucode and self-appointed bug terminator
Silicon Graphics, Inc.   ;;; ``Just call my name, I will be there.''
zhu@graphack.asd.sgi.com ;;; ``Projective geometry is all geometry.'' - Cayley
(415) 390-1187           ;;; ``Learn forever, young forever.'' - Anonymous
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
Subject: Re: More Opetions.
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories,  Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:02:33 GMT

In article <Ef2LBQz0Bwx5E0vZU7@transarc.com> Jim_Laredo@transarc.com writes:
>So assume that I wrote 10 call contract options due in March at a strike price
>of $15, and therefore I got a premium of 10x$Y =  $X right away.
>As we approach march, the stock has gone down a bit in price and the market
>is trading those call options at $Z per contract, where $Z << $Y, so it makes
>sense to go ahead and buy 10 contracts at $Z each and eliminate all the risk
>involved in this transaction.


It makes sense, but remember there will be a commission to pay as
well.  But if you think it will never reach as high as the $15
strike price, you might prefer to sit it out and assume it will
never have to be bought back.

If you wrote January or February or March calls, you also might want
to defer your gain until next year, and might decline to buy back
this year to avoid gain this year.

>Now say that the stock took an upswing in the last day and the price went
>higher than $15 (the strike price) and of course I get called, is my
>stockbroker smart enough to go and call those options that I have and pay
>whoever call me with those shares? If no, how do I avoid the risk of being
>called and not being able to call those options that I have?

I'm not sure what the question is.

If you get called, what happens is the magic computer in Wonderland
automatically matches exercised calls, and if your one of those who
gets called, your broker will then sell your shares for you to the
person who exercised.  You will pay commission on the sale.  If you
had been naked, your broker will buy the calls (get commission) and
immediately turn around and sell them as before. (and commission
there too.)

How do you avoid the risk of getting called?  Once the stock is
above the strike price (or below for puts) you have a risk of being
called.

In practice, except for stocks which go ex-div for a fair sized
dividend which the arbs want to trap, you will not get called until
the last day (The third Friday of the month). That's not a law, just
what seems to happen a lot.  But you really can get called at any
time, and there's not a whole lot you can do to avoid it if that's
what's going  to happen.   If the stock pays any real dividend you
should be sensitive to the ex-div dates, and of course always know
if your stock is in the money (liable to be exercised.)
-- 
Art Kamlet  a_s_kamlet@att.com  AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus
From: hajadi@goofy.csd.sgi.com (Ivan M. Hajadi)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: To the dude who inquired about Novell
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:26:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <lg8lfkINNo0v@spim.mti.sgi.com>, streich@sgi.com (Mark Streich) writes:
|> In article <BxoDvy.MFG@cs.uiuc.edu>, watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe) writes:
|> |> According to these figures, Novell has a  P/E of
.....
|> 
|> If anybody knows what Novell's earnings really are, we can settle this
|> correctly, but I'm sure their P/E isn't 10.9.

According to Fortune magazine, about a couple weeks after NOVL split, NOVL
P/E is 37, projected growth 28%.


-- 

// Ivan hajadi@sgi.com -- 
//   "Objects In Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear"
// opinions are mine etc.
From: colburn@Oswego.EDU (Bret Colburn)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: L.C.Wegard - Comments?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:43:25 GMT
Reply-To: colburn@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Bret Colburn)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Nov13.130648.30085@europa.asd.contel.com> markt@rocky.gte.com (Mark Tsombakos) writes:
>
>I have been hounded by a broker from L.C. Wegard & Co. out of Pennsylvania.
>Anyone heard of this company?  Good, bad, indifferent?  Reputation?
>
>Thanks for any info.  Please reply by mail.
>

Please post this information (or email me too).  They contacted me about 2
weeks ago and I had never heard of them.

					Thanks

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Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Where is the best place to stick it?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:02:42 GMT

jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:

>Gary Heston <gary@cdthq.UUCP> writes:

>	Wipe out the credit cards, put the rest in investments, and put
>	the money you were paying on the cards into either more
>	investments or partying.

>There's the point: people who pay off that debt will *not* be inclined
>to "pay back" the original lump.  In a sense, if you inherit $100k, and
>you use $20k of it to pay off credit card debt, you've "loaned" one
>account to pay another.  Now you're losing return on that $20k.  If you
>don't take the original cash flow you were paying for debt service and
>"repay" the $100k account, you're down for the long run.

>The numbers make sense: it's the actions of individuals who will in
>fact party instead of putting the money back that leads me to say
>"stick with the cash flow" of debt service.

>/jordan

Since the return on the $20k is unlikely to exceed the 
cost of financing the debt with the credit card company,
the person is essentially lending his money for free.

It would seem to me that it would be easier and cheaper
to simply burn the credit cards and replace them with
an American Express card. This would enforce the
discipline of paying off the card each month, and
would save $4,000 a year in interest charges.

-Larry Watanabe watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu
From: richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: >>>>> Where is the best place to stick it?
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:10:06 GMT
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA
Disclaimer: This posting is a personal opinion and not that of Kronos Inc.

A potential white-collar crime victim writes:
>>    I am about to receive a gift of $100k ...

ssimmons@convex.com (Steve Simmons) writes:
>First word of advice.  Avoid talking about it, especially on a nationwide
>network.  You may find that you have more friends than you need.

* soapbox mode on *
This points out one of the biggest problems with our society.  Since most
of us have literally nothing to lose, and since people who have something
to lose are likely to behave responsibly, we're running the risk of
a social breakdown.  Since there are few guidelines for young people who are
considering building assets, they take the easy way out:  avoiding having
anything to lose.
* soapbox mode off *

Seriously, us folks in our 20s and 30s don't have a network of peers to
discuss these matters with.  I get the impression that previous generations
had (a) more people to give them guidance, and (b) far fewer confusing
options in the investment market.

I find myself bewildered and with no one to talk to about how to manage
money.  Having been burned in the past, I take an overly conservative
approach akin to stuffing money under a mattress and hoping it doesn't
get stolen.  The local library has whole aisles of books on investments,
and it's hard to trust any of the authors.  What they advise probably
won't work anyway, because the whole world economy is in an extended period
of fundamental shakeout.

-rich
From: herman@tellabs.com (Dale Herman)
Subject: Zenith Electronics
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:31:14 GMT

Any opinions on Zenith Electronics?

The company has been showing losses for quite a few quarters
now.  Some analysts are predicting a return to break even in
1993.  

Is this a good time to buy or is this bottom fishing?

	Thanks,
	 
-- 
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Tellabs Operations, Inc., Lisle, Il.	     ->insert witty quote here<-
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