Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american,misc.education
Subject: Re: Institutional racism in education
From: ohall@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:16:17 MST
 <1992Dec14.105244.1@milori.ccit.arizona.edu> <1992Dec21.034836.21506@athena.mit.edu>
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In article <1992Dec21.034836.21506@athena.mit.edu>, solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.105244.1@milori.ccit.arizona.edu>, ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu writes:
> |> In article <1992Dec13.020511.2386@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
> 
> |>   The mythical program is whites get hired and blacks don't.  If you read my
> |>   posting on 12/12 I stated I had 2 white co-workers who had no college
> |>   education yet comparable experience as I.  They were both fired.  The femal
> |>   got employed in 1 month the male got employed in 3 months.  When I leave a
> |>   job without being fired I can't get employment for over a year.  Would it
> |>   have been better that I get fired from a job in order to ensure future 
> |>   employment?
> 
> I take back my last post about one of your articles. If you are foolish
> enough to attach statistical significance to the series of events that
> you have described then you don't have the intelligence to come up with a
> good idea.
> 
> (somebody else wrote the double indented stuff, BTW)
>
  Have you ever heard the saying "you are a product of your society"?
  I base the majority of my beliefs on how my life is in the U.S. and my 
  personal experiences.  The media can be deceptive to some degree.  
  What statistical information are you refering too?  
  Based on these "statistics" and many unmentioned life experiences, why
  shouldn't I believe as I do?

  Don't judge a man until you walked in his shoes!!!
  You certainly haven't enough evidence to judge me as to foolish to come up
  with a good idea.

> |> > Try the Sunday newspaper. Look for jobs at AA employers. Being Blak qualifies
> |> > you for employment with the Boston Fire Department, give them a call.
> |> > Ditto for MIT, while in Boston look them up too.
> |> > The RDU airport is setting aside 30% of its construction funds for
> |> > "minorities", give them a call.
> 
> |>   Are you implying that I haven't been looking for work?  That this descendant
> |>   of the U.S. slave race is lazy and only wants to get educated but not look
> |>   for employment?  College opportunities great, but you ain't got a thing if
> |>   you ain't got that green.
> |>   I have tried the sunday - saturday paper.  I have interviewed with N.M.E,
> |>   Xerox, F.H.P, Federal Express, Nicklestone Software, University of Arizona,
> |>   Catalina Limousine, Yellex, UCLA(2 jobs), and many many many more.  I have 
> |>   had well over 50 interviews and all came to naught.  
> |>   Now I am good enough to provide campus wide computer support at the U of A 
> |>   for $6.50/hr., but I'm not good enough to do the same type of work for 
> |>   $30,000/yr.
> |>   Apply for the Boston Fire Department?  Where am I now?  You gonna pay for my
> |>   airfare and lodging?  I guess I'm just in the wrong place, but last I heard I
> |>   was in a place called America.
> 
> It sounds like you are in the same position as thousands of other Americans who
> were formerly employed in computer related industries. That you should blame it
> on your race is rediculous. Look at all of the white people who would love just
> to have your job. The number of unemployed people who are qualified to run a
> campus computer system is staggering.
>
  Great!!! I want to see the number of whites who want to fill my position as
  homeless too!
  Like it or not.  If things keep up this way there will be many out on the
  street. 
  I don't work nobody works!
  Life only gives back what you put into it.
  What comes around goes around.
  Welcome to the ghetto.
  
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