HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sbpress@engws8 (The Stony Brook Press)
Subject: Re: Quicken vs Managing Your Money
Reply-To: sbpress@ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: The State University of New York at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:18:33 GMT

Are there any programs for managing a buisness?

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From: eaiu243@orion.oac.uci.edu ()
Subject: Re: creating Norton emergency disk for pb 180
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:44:14 GMT

a] I'm sure that the respective companies will find a solution
   fairyl soon now.

b] In the meantime, why not compress Norton/SpeedDisk/etc with
   the AutoDoubler Internal Compressor? Seems to me that it
   should work just fine...


--Shawn

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: diehl@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (diehl robert howard)
Subject: D to A conversion question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:43:26 GMT

I'm looking for software to perform D to A conversion.  My data are currently inthe form of hz (base 10), but that is certainly modifiable.

diehl@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: alanj@endeavor18.tek.com (Alan Jeddeloh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Microsoft ACCESS for Mac's?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:12:24 GMT
Reply-To: Alan.Jeddeloh@tek.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

Microsoft has a new database - ACCESS - which it has just release for
windows.  Anyone know if they are planning a release for the MAC?

--
    Alan Jeddeloh      W:(503) 685-2991  H:(503) 292-9740
    Tektronix, Inc.; D/S 60-850; PO Box 1000; Wilsonville, OR 97070
    Alan.Jeddeloh@tek.com 
    You can put the children to bed, but you can't make them sleep!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: HURH@FNAL.FNAL.GOV (Patrick Hurh)
Subject: NewsWatcher Help?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Fermi Lab
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:45:46 GMT

I recently downloaded NewsWatcher from sumex-aim and I'm pleased with the
results.  However there are a couple things I'd like to see/do that don't
seem to be available...is there a user manual for this app?

1) Is there a way to keep articles read from 'disappearing' from the
newsgroup directory window?  In other words if I open up a newsgroup with 5
unread postings and read them and then close and save the window, during a
subsequent session NewsWatcher won't let me open up that newsgroup again
(and look at the messages I've already read) because there "are not any
unread messages".  This is really annoying if I want to check on something
I've already read...

2) It would be nice to see the date of each posting to a newsgroup in the
article directory window without actually having to open each message.

Any help out there?

Thanks in advance      Patrick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: peppert@iastate.edu (Tom Pepper)
Subject: HELLLLLLP!  Quark 3.1 -> 3.0 ???
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:23:39 GMT

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!

I have just spent many exhaustive hours getting Quark 3.0 to work on my Quadra
only to discover the document I have is 3.1.

I have Quark 3.1, but the Xtension I have to convert the entire document into 
text is compatible with 3.0 only.  If anyone knows how to convert this nasty 
nasty 3.1 380K document into 3.0 - please reply to this and make my day 
brighter.

-Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: eschen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Art Eschenlauer)
Subject: Re: Font question. Need very weird accents and diactritics for Skt.
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:27:44 GMT

Michael Rowland (rowley@theporch.raider.net) wrote:
: freek@phil.ruu.nl (Freek Wiedijk) writes:
: 
: > I wrote:
: > >> Related question: in which word processors is it possible to combine
: > >> _arbitrary_ letters with _arbitrary_ accents?
: > 
: > rowley@theporch.raider.net (Michael Rowland) writes:
: > >ANY word processor can do it on the Mac... it's built into the operating 
: > >system. Using KeyCaps find out the keyboard locations of the diacritical 
: > >you want; they are Option-key strokes. For instance, the umlaut is 
: > >Option-U; the tilde is Option-N, other accents are located as Option keys 
: > >hidden behind other vowels... circumflex is Option-I, etc. These are 
: > >"dead-key" combinations...they take two keystrokes. Hold down the Option 
: > >key and strike a lowercase u... at first nothing will happen...THEN 
: > >strike the vowel you want to put the umlaut over, and it will show up 
: > >onscreen complete with diacritical.
: > 
: > Interesting.  So, to put a tilde accent on a capital E, I'll have to
: > type Option-n Shift-e, right?  (Try it, you will see that it won't
: > work...)
: > 
Currently I am trying to set up a font-set for classical Greek, in which
there are four accents, seven vowels, and three breathings, plus an 
extra character used to indicate contractions in which an iota is lost.
The combinations of accents, vowels and breathings comes to about 134
separate vowel characters that I have to generate. So, I used resedit
to set up a keyboard layout file with deadkeys everywhere....
If anyone wants more info, drop me a note.

Now I am editing fonts (using resedit...). 
Yes, you do need to have a separate character for each accent combination,
unless your word processor supports overstrikes. Word 4 does, but that
would mean defining manymanymany special codes that you would have to use.
Not practical in my opinion.

Art (eschen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru)
Subject: Re: ATM 3.0 & Suitcase 2.1.1 Conflict
Reply-To: arie@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: AI Lab, The University of Michigan
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:47:56 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:20:10 GMT, fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher) said:

| In article <ARIE.93Jan27135658@quip.eecs.umich.edu> arie@eecs.umich.edu writes:
|>I found a strange incompatibility between Adobe Type Manager (ATM) version
|>3.0 and Suitcase version 2.1.2 and I wonder if it is a known problem.
|>I installed the two on a PowerBook 160 on top of a clean out of the box
|>installation of System 7.1 using the customized software installation for
|>the PowerBook 160. The PB would stop during the startup process after 
|>loading ATM and would display a blank screen (no messages, no errors,
|>no crashes). When I tried to load each of the two, either ATM or Suitcase,
|>the startup process finished and all was well. This happened even when 
|>Suitcase wasn't opening any suitcases. Finally I changed the loading
|>order having ATM load before Suitcase and they both worked together.
|>
|>Did this happen to anyone else and is there a fix other than changing
|>the order?

| That's right Suitcase, must be loaded after ATM, this a known
| problem.

| -- 
| Chuck Fisher                                        (800) 359-7997 Work
| ncselxsi system administrator                       (415) 964-2819 Home
| uucp:  ...!netcom!ncselxsi!fisher

Is this only on the PowerBook 160 or it happens on other models
as well. The problem doesn't show up on the IIci or the PowerBook
170.
--


Arie.

=========================================================================
| Arie Covrigaru                 |  University of Michigan AI Lab       |
| Phone: (313)994-8887           |  Room 149, Advanced Technology Bldg. |
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From: ck2@irz205.inf.tu-dresden.de (Christian Kletting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PSpice for Mac Classic ?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:48:53 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ck2@irz205.inf.tu-dresden.de (Christian Kletting)
NNTP-Posting-Host: irz205.inf.tu-dresden.de


Im looking for PSpice (or PSpice-Demo), that can running with the Classic.
 
------------------------------------
Christian Kletzing

Dresden, Germany

email: ck2@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de
------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: eschwa@teal.csn.org (Emerson Schwartzkopf)
Subject: Re: Quark XPress: how to translate to other formats?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:25:35 GMT

Okay, here's a better one -- someone wants something done in Illustrator
and gives you a disk with a "Page saved as EPS" file. Call it up in
Illustrator, and all you get is the infamous blank box, no matter what
view you happen to be in. Any answers?
-- 
Emerson Schwartzkopf       Gunnison, Colorado
eschwa@csn.org             A warm spot in a cold place

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: des7f@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (David E. Sappington)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Mac CRON program
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:11:20 GMT

rfrost@degas.jrc.flinders.edu.au (Richard Frost) writes:
[ wants Mac equivalent to UNIX cron program ]

While it doesn't have all the timing options of cron, QuicKeys allows
"Timer Options" to be associated with any macro.  This allows a macro
to be fired off at a particular time and (if desired) at specified
intervals afterward.  A macro can (amongst a myriad of other things!)
launch an application and even pass it some AppleEvents if necessary.

It's a great little program.

Dave Sappington                     des7f@virginia.edu
Institute for Parallel Computation  des7f@virginia.bitnet
University of Virginia

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tron@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tron R.)
Subject: Re: Word 5.1, Envelopes, and DeskWriter C-- Help!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:19:06 GMT

trocklin@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Tom Rocklin) writes:

>When I use Word 5.1's envelope command and print to my DeskWriter C
>(version 2.0 drivers-- is this current?) the left portion of my return address
>is cut off.

>I can't find anything on adjusting the format of the envelope in Word...
>Am I missing something?
>-- 

If you are using a DW C with Word 5.1 to print envelopes, then you should
use the following options:
Media: Envelope
Orientation: Portrait
Alignment: Left

I hope this helps.

Tron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: yane@shnext22.ucslabs.sfu.ca (Yan Choon Ee)
Subject: Re: A new SpeedyFinder?
Keywords: Satisfied SpeedyFinder7 user
Reply-To: yane@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:57:50 GMT

In article <C1IwKn.HuL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Igor Livshits <igorl@uiuc.edu>  
writes:
: In article <simon-270193083951@archmac-163.arch.su.edu.au> Simon Hayman,
: simon@archsci.arch.su.edu.au writes:
: > As a satisfied user of SpeedyFinder and Now Utilities (V3 & 4) and  
about
: > two dozen other "evil" inits, etc, I can vouch for the fact that there
: have
: > been no problems to my knowledge that hadn't been there beforehand. Of
: > course, I am only rumnning a humble ClassicII :-). As far as I know
: Victor
: > is very prompt with bug fixes to registered users - I haven't had to  
ask
: > for one it has just turned up in my email.
: 
: Count me in as another satisfied (registered) user of SF7.  I run
: AutoDoubler and SpeedyFinder7 without any problems.  GateKeeper and the
: background copies disagree a bit.  However, I do not like the potential
: cataclysmic effects of a non-Finder background copier anyway; so, that
: feature is inhibited on my setup.

I am also another very satisfied SpeedyFinder7 user.  I'm not so fussy
about the background copier, however, since I don't have really "critical"
files stashed on my hard drives, so I use the backgrounder to it's
fullest.  By setting the copy memory allocation to a minimum (I've found  
that copying speed isn't nearly as important anymore since it's being done  
in the background), I've been able to get things done without feeling the  
copying much, instead of waiting for the copy to finish.

It is definitely worth the AUS$20.

yan choon
--
Yan Choon Ee			AOL: choon
Simon Fraser University        	Internet: yane@sfu.ca   
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Subject: Re: Photoshop--JPG ???
Organization: Florida State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 07:46:10 GMT

Gerald Edgar writes
+ 
+ Photoshop 2.01 and later comes with a plug-in that allows
+ import and export of JPEG/JFIF files.

If I remember correctly, that imports only type JPEG files,
not JFIF. That's correctable by changing the file type,
tho. For viewing {JFIF|JPEG} files, try JPEGView.

James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tedcrane@cs.cornell.edu (Ted Crane)
Subject: Re: MacInTax 10.01 (the update)
Organization: Tompkins County Computing, Ithaca, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:32:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.075103.15274@mic.ucla.edu> cjones@physci.ucla.edu (Chad Jones) writes:
>with it.  From what I understand, you download your info to ChipSoft's
>computer, which files for you.  And, if that doesn't work, will Form
>1040PC cause a faster refund?

I make no comment here, but this is info paraphrased from the advertising
included with the Final version of MacInTax:

1040PC:  An easy way to get your refund fast.  "Best of all, it's FREE."
on the other side, the order form:
   "Product"       "Price"      "Total"
   "1040PC"        "Free"       "Free"
Subtotal...    presumable free
Sales Tax...   presumably none, on a free item
"Shipping ($4.50 1st item, $2.50 each addtl item)"

Comment: if it's so free, why wan't it included with the MacInTax kit?  Is it
safe to assume ChipSoft isn't losing money on the Shipping fee?

As to the electronic filing of returns via ChipSoft, that costs $19.95.
-- 
- ted crane, alias (tc)                  tedcrane@cs.cornell.edu
From: reuber@cdv.eri.harvard.edu (Kent Reuber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: WordPerfect PC to Macintosh format.
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:55:20 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Schepens Eye Research Institute

In article <C17qwq.G6w@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles
Andrew Burchill) wrote:
> 
> 
> Does anyone outthere know of a decent translator for WordPerfect PC -
> Word? Pereferably through AFE.
> 
> Thanks
> cb     
> 
> BTW I know about MacLink, but I was hoping for a shareware version.
> -- 
> Charles A. Burchill                               ,__o 	   //    	      
> <burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca>                      _-\_<,   / / 
> University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada       (*)/'(*)/  /  

Word 5 and 5.1 for the Macintosh reads and writes WordPerfect 5.0 and 5.1
for DOS. You will, of course, needs a SuperDrive and utility like
DosMounter to have a PC disk show up on your desktop. (You can use AFE if
you like. I prefer DosMounter.) Version 7 of MacLink also has translators
that you can drop in the Word 5 "Word Commands" folder, so that you can
read foreign files directly into Word by simply choosing "Open".

Kent Reuber
reuber@cdv.eri.harvard.edu
reuber@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Kevin Harris <KHarris@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Color Hypercard
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78953B04B01250D@wolfgang.nrl.navy.mil>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:22:08 GMT
Organization: Software Perspectives
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:22:07 GMT


According to my sources at Claris, you won't see a color version of
HyperCard for at least a year.  This is due to problems caused by the
implementation of the color routines, which are causing the software to
run too slow to be a worthwhile feature.

So, don't hold yer breath!  ;)

Kevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hans@smab.se (Hans C Larsson)
Subject: After Dark version that handles 16-bit color ?
Organization: Saab Missiles AB, RLD-Gbg, Sweden
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:52:33 GMT

As the subject implies, does anyone know if there's a
After Dark version that can handle 16-bit color (e.g. my LC).

2.0 crashes horribly when the password dialog (doesn't)
comes up.
-- 
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        Hans C Larsson			Email:	hans@smab.se
	Saab Missiles, Sweden		Motto:	yes
From: brunnock@cambridge.apple.com (Sean Brunnock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: looking for English/Chinese word processor
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:38:10 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cambridge, MA


I'm looking for a word processor which can handle both English
and Chinese text in the same document.

It should allow me to build new Chinese characters by combining
previously defined ones. I prefer not to create new Chinese 
characters by using a drawing tool.

Thank you for any reply.

Sean Brunnock
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: antjcb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (J.C.Burns)
Subject: Re: Adobe Dimensions
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:11:18 GMT



Well, I just bought the Illustrator/Dimensions bundle (although I
much prefer Freehand over Illustrator.) Good to see your
recommendation for dimensions after a lukewarm review in MacWeek. So
before I break the seal on those disks....
Just to get a handle on where you're coming from...
Are you a Freehand guy or an Illustrator guy?
Do you work for Adobe?
 
--jcb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for multiple-scrapbook utility
From: villa@sparrow (Ferdinando Villa)
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:47:48 +0100
Organization: Ecologia Universita' di Parma
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]Lines: 25

dlutz@uoft02.utoledo.edu wrote:
: I'm looking for a utility that will allow one to access multiple
: scrapbook files - probably some sort of desk accessory. The number and
: size of images I have in the current scrapbook has become unwieldy; it
: would be more convenient if I could break the images up into several
: separate scrapbooks that could be accessed when needed. Please send any
: replies to:
: 
: David B. Lutz
: dlutz@uoft02.utoledo.edu

We bought MultiClip from Olduvai Corp. which does exactly what you need - and
in a neat way. Unfortunately I experienced all kind of crashes and malfunctions
after installing it on an LC with system 7.0.1. I then installed on a Classic
and the same things happened. So I removed it, complained with Olduvai, got 
no answer. The price was cheap but it was wasted money, unless they come out 
with a new version which fixes the bugs.  

--
Ferdinando Villa, dr. 

Institute of Ecology                     Direct phone: +39-521-905615
University of Parma                               FAX: +39-521-905665
Viale delle Scienze                      e.mail: villa@sparrow.bio.unipr.it
43100 Parma, Italy                               villa@aida.eng.unipr.it
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:55:55 EST
From: Michael Jose Raneri <MJR145@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Speed disk buffer size?

In article <mkloos66.727595648@uther>, mkloos66@uther.calvin.edu (Mark Klooster)
says:
>
>How come when I use speed disk on a Mac IIci at work the chunks are bigger
>than
>when I use it on my IIsi at home?  By chunks I mean the amount of disk space
>read and re-written in one pass.  Is there a setting for this?

Not directly.  It just uses as much memory as it has available.  To increase
the size of the chunks, just increase the multifinder partition.  I have 17
megs of RAM and have it's partition set at around 14 megs or so.  No problems.
- Mike

>
>Mark Klooster
>
>--
>+--------------------------------------+
>|Mark Klooster                         |
>|mkloos66@calvin.edu       GO BLUE!!!!!|
>+--------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: johnson@wimsey.bc.ca (Susan Johnson)
Subject: Information on BEDROCK
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:12:51 GMT

I am looking for information on BEDROCK. It is a multiplatform
foundation for Windows and the Macintosh being developed by
Symantec.

Please e-mail if you have any information.  Thanks.
From: Dantz Development Corporation <dantz@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:35 PST
Subject: Re: Retrospect
Nf-ID: #R:C17JIz.Bpu@trc.amoco.com:-1739107900:cdp:1533900026:000:807
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dantz    Jan 26 10:35:00 1993



Mary Ann:

Make sure that you check "Install Startup INIT" in the Calendar window of 
Retrospect.  

Also, check the log to see if Retrospect "thinks" it shut down.  The log will 
either say "Shut Down at ..." or "Quit at ..." as the last operation of the 
night.

If it says Shut down, and you have the startup INIT installed, and it still does 
not work, try this:

throw out your startup init (Retro.Startup), restart, launch Retrospect, go to 
Calendar, check Install Startup INIT again, then quit, and restart.  This 
re-installs it from scratch, and sometimes this helps.

If you need more help, contact our technical support at 
dantz.tech@appplelink.apple.com or call our tech support line at 510/849-0372.

Best regards,

Walt Hays
Dantz

CIS:   73367,2416
Link:  D0011
Phone: 510/849-0293 x 261


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: jameslow@iti.gov.sg (James Low (RC))
Subject: Re: 4th dimension reviews?
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:10:16 GMT

shauna@cs.UAlberta.CA (Shauna Grabinsky) writes:

>I was wondering if anyone who has used 4th dimension could post/send 
>any comments, pros/cons my way?  Or even direct me towards recent Mac*
>magazine reviews/comparisons with other relational databases.

>thanx in advance. 
Also, I would like to know what new features have version 3.0 when compared
to 2.0.  I used 2.X previously and now, I have a project that might use
4D again.

Thank for any info.
-- 
                             James Low Teck Koon
        Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
               Email: jameslow@iti.gov.sg jameslow@itivax.bitnet
                     Phone: (65) 7720438 Fax: (65) 7795966
From: lchen@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lang Shen Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: creating Norton emergency disk for pb 180
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:42:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Well, to create my own emergency disks (Disinfectant, DiskFit Direct...)
I took the "Install Me First" disk from my PB 160, stripped it of the
extra files (Autoremounter, the Installer etc...) leaving only the 
System and the Enabler.  Now copy the program (Norton in this case) 
onto the disk and rename it Installer.  Now it should boot and run
the program you just renamed.  

This assumes that you don't need to use the Finder though, since the 
Install Me First disk does not include a Finder.  (By the way, you can
rename the disk.)

Larry
-- 
"Spell Checker?  Do you really want to check your incantation for the correct 
 amount of Eye-Of-Newt and Brimstone?"

						-Anonymous