From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: BAUD != BPS
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 00:13:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <68573@cup.portal.com> <1992Oct29.215056.9913@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>

>Quoth joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan):
>]>I wonder just how many of you out there thinks that baud = bps (bits per
>]>second) ???
>]>Well, it seems like quite a lot.  Even the newest ncomm uses the term baud.
>]>
>]>Baud has something to do with nr of symbols, and symbols are 4 bits!!
>]>(a 2400 baud modem is actually 9600 bps!!!!)
>]>For more info on symbols etc. Find out what QAM is...
>]>
>]>So please stop writing baud if you really mean bps!
>]>
>]>Trond Sausjord     Trondheim College of Engineering
>]>
>]>tronds@edb.tih.no
>]>
>]
>]How true.  It makes me sick to see this misuse come along in the last 7
>]years or so.  What I can't understand is why the modem manufacturers insist
>]on spreading this wrong usage of terms in their manuals no less!
>
>If I may interrupt this mutual admiration society for a moment....
>
>Bully for the both of you, but if you're quite finished elevating your own
>status at the expense of others, I'd like to point out that if you're that
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Say what?  Elevating status?  Expense of
                                 others?  That makes no sense.

>hung up on the difference, it might be time for a career move.  Really, if
>in casual conversation you can't get base terminology like that, it's more
>than useless to even try.

Before you look too far down that long nose of yours, look at what you are
reading.  My statement was that I was sick of seeing this in manufacturer's
manuals NOT "casual conversation."  Furthermore, I am not hung up on the
difference in terms.  It is those that WILL NOT use the correct ones that
are "hung up."  They simply can't seem to get themselves to use the right
word.

><congratulations... you hit my pet peeve right on the button>

Hey, it's YOUR pet peeve, not mine.  You said it :-)

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Okay Jock?  What, Jock is not your name?  Big deal, I can use any word I
want according to your mentality, right?  After all, it's only casual
conversation.  

How long could NCR stay in business if technical terms were allowed to mean
anything you want?  Probably not very long - especially when things would
begin to blow up as they were plugged in. ;-)

-Joel
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