Organization: Maya Relief Foundation, Ottawa
X-Mailer: DistNet [version 5.61R]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.geodesic
Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:41:15 -0400
              <GEODESIC@UBVM.BITNET>
Comments:     Unregistered Shareware User
From:         Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@MAYA.ISIS.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Other Bucky stuff: Critical Path

In <92Sep13.164252edt.9762@mail.uunet.ca> sourada@iastate.edu writes:
> In <BuEKzq.CuH@csn.org> van@teal.csn.org (Claude W. Van Horn) writes:
>
> >I just love to read stuff written by Fuller.  the multi-hyphenated-
> >language and high-sounding terminology is unique.
>
> He is quite expressive, once you get used to the style. At first, I
> thought he was just attempting to sound high-minded, but he really does
> use his unique language to get more precision out of English.

One key to understanding Fuller's English can be found in his book "I
Seem to Be A Verb" --- Fuller was very careful to avoid most nouns,
seeing them as misleading.  He also sought to avoid other misleading
constructs such as "sunrise" (sun-show).

As for the vocabulary, Goldy says to the Three Bears (in Tetrascroll):

" If you don't understand any of my words, you can find them in the
dictionary."

Wee Bear replies, "Out here we use cosmic thought communications. We
don't have to find words in special-language dinction-airies.  We use
a cosmic thinktionary.  All your dictionaries express the universal
concepts of our thinktionary but only in special, ethnic-language
sound-words.  The concepts such as mountains or star or nuance are the
same expericne-engendered concepts in all languages. We understand you
perfectly, Goldy."

> Oooops, I wanted to make a point to cooperation in my last post, but forgot.
> Bucky's vision would benefit greatly from, and may only be possible with,
> a lot of cooperation.

Like to co-operation that has brought world-literacy to nearly 90%?
No, second-class evolution is independent of the petty concerns of
puffed-up executive thinking.  You train mercenaries for your petty
African power struggles, and when the cold-war is over, you have left
a legacy of literate soldiers.  You build an international network of
airtravel to move troups and bombs, and when airplanes are no longer
strategically important, banana's harvested in Jamaica can be in San
Francisco markets by noon the next day.  Co-operation would be nice,
like Krishnamurti's dream of everyone learning to be responsible, but
that is like saying what if everyone in New York decided to go to the
same restaurant on the same night.  Don't bet on it.

> As he repeats many times in his works, non-material
> wealth (knowledge, technology, etc.) can only grow. Implicit in this
> statement, though, is the assumption that everyone working to increase
> non-material wealth will share thier new knowledge. If there is undue
> protectionism on the part of, say, scientists working for commercial
> enterprises, then non-material wealth may actually decrease for the
> general population.

Fuller describes the theft of public wealth in many ways.  One is by
Universities who, with public money, buy the best equipment and train
fresh young minds to excellence.  Once graduated, the (predominently)
tax-free, off-shore corporations make these graduates an offer, and
their shareholders reap the benefits of the public investment.  It is
no accident, says Fuller, that the US was founded on the agreement the
government would not hold land --- how would they finance a
revolution? As the major land-owners that signed the document!

> Cooperation, therefore, is necessary to keep the
> science and technology moving forward, instead of standing still, moving
> laterally.

I was watching a PBS panel-talk show where this scientist had just
invented a new form of relay.  The host asked him, considering it took
15 years to have the FCC give permission to use his previous version,
why would he bother to invent a better one.  The scientist was
flabbergasted and looked a little foolish as he fumbled for an answer.
Truth is, that is not how research goes.  Like Picasso said, "I do not
seek, I find".

> >I started to read his book SINERGY, but got left behind in the 4th or 5th
> >chapter.  Anyone else do better??

All the way through both volumes twice, and I probably still know only
about as much as you ;-).  Try Cosmography first.


--
Gary Lawrence Murphy -- garym@maya.isis.org -- (613) 230-6255
       --------------------------------------------
   "The present moment is a powerful goddess." - Goethe
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU