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From: mpissov@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mikhail Pissov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Thought of the day .
Keywords: Thought
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:54:14 GMT
Organization: UNASS( United Nations Association of Suffered Souls.)
Originator: amanzur@rinascimento.comp.vuw.ac.nz



   ONE MAN CAN CHANGE THE WORLD WITH A BULLET AT RIGHT PLACE , if .....
From: alam@ee.rochester.edu (Sheikh Kaisar Alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Airlines, Travel Agents?
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:34:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Sep14.195703.8796@ee.rochester.edu> alam@ee.rochester.edu (Sheikh Kaisar Alam) writes:
>I'm planning to go home in December. I'm considering Biman, Gulf, and PIA.
>Thai would not be inexpensive from the east coast. I'm sure many netters
>went home recently. Can they relay their experiences to me? I want to know
>both about the airline, and the travel agent they used.
>I'm thinking to start a survey like Jwahar (sp?) did in SCB. Although that
>is very informative, it is more pertinent to Indians in general.
>Please send:
>Airline name, experience with them, travel agent name, experience with him/her,
>takes credit card or not, latest exerience date, and anything else that you
>find relevaent.
Oh, I forgot to mention the phone# of travel agent, and the airline. If there
is an 800 #, please mention it. I hope to post the survey in a week. Please
don't make a fool out of me by not responding when you could.
Shuja
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: kazi@dobie.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi)
Subject: No Rhyme, No Reason
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:11:54 GMT

   No Rhyme, No Reason
   ------------------

   The silence is strange
      In dear SCB
   No flames or post
      Do I at all see

   0 Articles new
      Saddens the heart
   The lack of postings
      Tears me apart

   Where is everyone?
      What happened to u?
   Have all your advisors
Imprisoned you too?

   My thanks to Saif
      For the news he posts
   I guess he deserves
      A series of toasts

   Where is Dipen?
      And Wasif Sattar?
   And the voice of reason
      From down under?

   Shakil is silent
      Zunaid is quiet
   They've stopped with the axioms
      To prevent a riot

   The net also misses
      Anisul Haque
   After moving from Texas
      He's silent as a rock

   Where's MKAziz?
      And Asif from Denton?
   And the crossposting
      Defenders of religion?

   But I will be unfair
      If Shuja I forget
   He started SCB
      Isn't that just great

   C'mon you lurkers
      Start tapping those keys
   This isn't an order
      Just a request with a please

   Apologies to others
      Whose names I've ommitted
   Trying to rhyme them all
      Would get me committed

 ---
Zunaid Kazi
kazi@cis.udel.edu
 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.filipino,soc.culture.magyar,soc.culture.soviet
From: sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY OF OLD PAGAN CULTS
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
	<1992Sep14.063918.13801@tamsun.tamu.edu>
	<1992Sep14.145722.7069@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:32:28 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep14.145722.7069@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> rached@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rached Zantout) writes:


   Mr. Hayek
   First, this is not Leb-Net, it is soc.culture.lebanon and as such it is a public
   forum for discussing issues related to Lebanon. Part of the lebaneese people are

This is not only soc.culture.lebanon this is also soc.culture.bangladesh,
soc.culture.australian, soc.culture.filipino, soc.culture.magyar,
soc.culture.soviet. Please keep your lebanon discussions to
soc.culture.lebanon. Anyone who is interested can read that newsgroup.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Subject: South Asian conference at Yale
Keywords: Breaking stereotypes
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:20:20 GMT




            Breaking Stereotypes: South Asians in America


 A collegiate conference sponsored by the South Asian Society at Yale


INTRODUCTION

South Asians have made their presence felt throughout America since
the mid-1960s.  Since then, stereotypes from the ubiquitous doctors
and engineers to convenience store owners and "Motel Patels" have
become widespread.  But South Asians all over the United States are
challenging these perceptions, and often the expectations of their own
communities.  They are entering "atypical" fields where their heritage
provides both obstacles and advantages.

In order to celebrate the diversity of interests and occupations South
Asian Americans have embraced, the Yale South Asian Society invites
you to attend a fall conference entitled "Breaking Stereotypes: South
Asians in America."  The conference will present a panel consisting of
South Asian Americans who have pursued careers that defy commonly held
preconceptions.  This theme will be further explored in small
discussion groups and workshops.  We will also be publishing a journal
of writing, artwork, photography, etc. after the conference about
issues related to the theme, Breaking Stereotypes.  If you have any
questions or concerns, please contact Baiju Shah at (203) 436-0713 or
Jyoti Thottam at (203) 436-1687.  We hope to see you there!


SCHEDULE OF EVENTS


Friday, October 9

4:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.:  Registration

7:30 p.m. - 9:30 p.m.:   Cultural Program

10:00 p.m. - 1:00 a.m.:  Social



Saturday, October 10

11:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.: Keynote Speaker

12:00 p.m. - 1:00 p.m.:  Lunch Break

1:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m.:   Panel Discussion

3:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.:   Afternoon Tea

4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.:   Group Discussion

8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.:  Banquet

10:00 p.m. - 2:00 a.m.:  Party



Sunday, October 11

11:00 a.m. - 1 p.m.:     Brunch



-- Shakil Ahmed
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Dept. of Computer Science     INTERNET: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu
P.O. Box 2158, Yale Station   BITNET  : ahmed-shakil@yalecs.bitnet
New Haven, CT 06520-2158      UUCP    : {ucbvax,harvard,...}!yale!ahmed
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: was@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (wasif.sattar)
Subject: Re: Open University for Bangladesh
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:48:30 GMT
Summary: What is an Open University?

In article <1921@grivel.une.edu.au>, dwright@metz.une.edu.au (Denis Wright) writes:
> 
> Hi, netters, from Down Under (after a long absence!)
> I have heard that Bangladesh is to have an Open University.
<stuff deleted>
> Denis Wright.
> PS - what do you think of the idea of an Open University
> for Bd?  Can it work?

Hi Denis,
Nice to see your presence again on scb!

Could you (Denis or any other knowledgeable soul) please elaborate on
the concept of an Open University?

I would like to know what will be the status of this Open University.
Who will run it? How will it be funded. Will it be non-profit. What
will the admission requirements be? Are the degrees to be nationally
and internationally recognized. As far as accredition/recognition
of degrees is concerned, Bangladesh is notorious in that the degrees
of the students who returned from the (former) Soviet Union were 
initially not recognized even though these folks went there under
the auspices of the Bangladesh and Soviet governments.

In Bangladesh the concept of a college/university that is not 
"owned" and run by the government is alien. Only recently, for the
first time, permission was granted for starting a private university.
The folks who were behind this noble venture were given a hard time
by the govt.. They were initially asked to have a certain minimum
acreage for the campus and have on deposit in escow accounts the
salary of the teachers to cover a certain length of time, etc. No
rules existed with respect to opening of private universities so
the authorities formulated impromptu rules to cause the maximum 
disadvantage to the pioneers. I suppose all the requirements have
been met and the university in question is on its way to start off.

Best regards,
Wasif
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Subject: Re: Airlines, Travel Agents?
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:45:14 GMT


In article <65877@cup.portal.com>, hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam) writes:
> Sounds like you had some fun in Karachi. Must have improved your
> Urdu considerably :-).

Actually, I can't speak Urdu at all, which made it all the more
difficult. :) I can understand some of it, but really cannot speak it.
I had this urge to speak to everyone in Bengali, but didn't think that
would be too well received! ;)  Of course, when people saw a totally
clueless passenger suddenly standing in front of the airport, they
descended upon me with a host of suggestions, none of which I
understood.  Thankfully, a mixture of single-syllable English words
and sign language did the trick, and I was able to persuade a bus
driver to help me.

> Did you have any trouble getting the camcorder in and out of Dhaka?

Well, the official rule is that you can take one in if you're there
for less than three months, and you take it out again.  To do so, you
have to fill out the appropriate declaration and have it entered in
your passport.  Obviously, we all know, that official rules have
little to do with what really happens at customs, and my experience
was no different.  I was stopped by a customs agent, and I asked him
to enter my camcorder in my passport.  He said I would have to pay
over Tk. 20,000 in taxes.  I smiled at him and said that is not what the
regulations said.  He refused to smile and merely repeated his Tk.
20,000 figure.  I had anticipated this kind of reaction, so I had a
copy of the regulations with me and took them out for his benefit.  He
acted very surprised to see these strange regulations, but still
wouldn't budge from his stubborn Tk. 20,000 demand.  So I asked to see
his supervising officer.  He refused.  At this point, I was getting
irritated.  I had taken the necessary precautions and took out a
letter from the embassy.  At this point, his serious expression
suddenly changed into a radiant smile as he led me to his supervising
officer.  I explained the problem to the supervising officer who
called over some officers and had them immediately enter the
information in my passport, and I was merrily on my way...

That was the worst experience with the camcorder.  There have been
other experiences where the customs official respects the regulations
and enters the data into the passport without any trouble.


-- Shakil Ahmed
=======================================================================
Dept. of Computer Science     INTERNET: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu
P.O. Box 2158, Yale Station   BITNET  : ahmed-shakil@yalecs.bitnet
New Haven, CT 06520-2158      UUCP    : {ucbvax,harvard,...}!yale!ahmed
=======================================================================
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Airlines, Travel Agents?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:28:06 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <65866@cup.portal.com> <1992Sep15.014731.2661@cs.yale.edu>

Sounds like you had some fun in Karachi. Must have improved your
Urdu considerably :-).

Did you have any trouble getting the camcorder in and out of Dhaka?

Hassan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: ahaque@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Abul Haque)
Subject: Re: No Rhyme, No Reason
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:18:02 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Sep12.191154.7793@udel.edu> kazi@dobie.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:
>
>   No Rhyme, No Reason
>   ------------------
>
>   The silence is strange
>      In dear SCB
>   No flames or post
>      Do I at all see
>
>   0 Articles new
>      Saddens the heart
>   The lack of postings
>      Tears me apart
>
>   Where is everyone?
>      What happened to u?
>   Have all your advisors
>Imprisoned you too?
>
>   My thanks to Saif
>      For the news he posts
>   I guess he deserves
>      A series of toasts
>
>   Where is Dipen?
>      And Wasif Sattar?
>   And the voice of reason
>      From down under?
>
>   Shakil is silent
>      Zunaid is quiet
>   They've stopped with the axioms
>      To prevent a riot
>
>   The net also misses
>      Anisul Haque
>   After moving from Texas
>      He's silent as a rock
>
>   Where's MKAziz?
>      And Asif from Denton?
>   And the crossposting
>      Defenders of religion?
>
>   But I will be unfair
>      If Shuja I forget
>   He started SCB
>      Isn't that just great
>
>   C'mon you lurkers
>      Start tapping those keys
>   This isn't an order
>      Just a request with a please
>
>   Apologies to others
>      Whose names I've ommitted
>   Trying to rhyme them all
>      Would get me committed
>
> ---
>Zunaid Kazi
>kazi@cis.udel.edu
> 

	Excellent!! Well done!!!

	How could you forget our friend from 'Oz?
From: fahmed@dhaka.Eng.Sun.COM (Farhad Ahmed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: DU campus....
Date: 8 Sep 1992 17:45:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: dhaka
Keywords: DU-> Dhaka University



	Assaalaamu-Waalaikum.

	DU is closed sine die followin' the death of two in a gun battle
	between the rival supporters of JCD(BNP). All the examinations
	'r expected tobe postponed due to the closer.

	Allah Hafez.

	Farhad Ahmed.
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	Phone   : (415)-336-3265 (work)      | Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: Z36Q000 <Z36Q@UNB.CA>
Subject: DU closing
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:55:45 GMT

Please let me know more about DU closing. Thanx.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: hassan@bcrka434.bnr.ca (Abu Hassan)
Subject: BANGLADESH CONVENTION
Originator: hassan@bcrka434
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:23:21 GMT



		BANGLADESH SAMMELON in CHICAGO
		==============================

The 6th annual convention of the Bangladeshis in North America
held last weekend (Sept 5 and 6) in Chicago. Bangladesh Assoc
of Chicago was the main organizer of this year's event. It was
held in the campus of North Eastern University. The venue was
well chosen with lot of parking space, spacious corridors and 
hallways, plenty of rooms for seminars and two auditoriums.

The activities were divided into two broad categories, seminars
and cultural functions. Seminars held during the morning and 
early afternoon. There were wide range of topics inlcuding 
Computer and Bangla, problems of second generation, status and
role of women in Bangladesh. In one of the sessions, Prof.
Fazle Hossain of University of Houston, Texas was given the 
Special Recognition of the year. This will be a yearly event
to recognise a Bangladeshi in North America for his/her 
scholary achievements. Prof. Hossain is a graduate of BUET
and renowned in the field of fluid mechanics. In another session,
the short film "Sonar Beri" was shown with a follow up discussion
by the maker Tariq Masud and others.
              
Cultural functions were scheduled in the evenings.
Different associations (from New Jersey, Houston, New York, Washington,
Toronto, host Chicago and a few others) took part in the cultural
functions. There were dramas, dances, songs, mimes, recitations
 in the cultural activities.

This was the first time I have attended a Bangladesh Convention. So
it is difficult for me to compare this years events with the previous
ones. But, at least one thing was quite obvious. The turn out was very
poor. Only 500-600 people attended the convention (A local show in
one of the big cities can have a higher turn out). I was really 
hopeless to see the attendance. The organisers told me before the 
convention that the expected turn out is 2000-3000 !! One of the 
convention co-chairs told me that the budget for the convention this
year was around $20,000. I was also surprised to see that there was
no guest artist/speaker from Bangladesh (which is almost a tradition
for this convention). 

The convention is going to Houston, Texas next year probably around 
the same time (i.e. August-September).


			

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Kuwaiti Woman
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:07:16 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Here is the complete article from the Reuters Library Report of August
31st. 

The relatives of a Kuwaiti woman who fled to Bangladesh to marry her
family's former chauffeur after a long love affair on Monday applied
to the Bangladesh High Court to have her extradited. 

The court granted bail to Batha Eissa Hamad al-Anezy, 25, and her
Bangladeshi husband Ali Ahmed

Police said the couple were arrested at the home of the man on Sunday
following the Kuwait Embassy's extradition request made on behalf of
the bride's relatives. 

A two-member High Court bench, comprising Justice Anwarul Huq
Chowdhury and Justice K.M. Hasan, granted them bail and ordered police
to send them back to Ahmed's home to live as a married couple.

They will be called back to the court if their presence is required
for further hearing of the case, court sources said.

The court will decide whether charges by Anezy's family that "she
married violating Kuwaiti laws" and that Ahmed "enticed her to an
illegal love affair" are acceptable and will then rule on the
extradition request.

Anezy, 25, arrived in Bangladesh on August 14, three days after Ahmed
returned home on expiry of his job contract, members of his family
told reporters.

The woman said that they were lovers for years and she had fled ot
Bangladesh to marry Ahmed. The couple were married under Moslem
Shariah law a week later.

Soon after the Kuwaiti Embassy told Dhaka's foreign ministry that
Anezy's family wanted here immediate extradition because Kuwaiti laws
did not permit marriage with foreigners.

The embassy said Anezy's uncle and several relatives had flown to
Dhaka to try to take her home.

The foreign ministry referred the matter to the home ministry which
ordered police to pick up the couple and "submit them before the
court."

Ahmed's father, Nur Ahmed, said Anezy refused to return to Kuwait or
divorce her husband. 

"She has been a nice and beautiful bride. We did not have any problem
in accepting her in our farming family," he told reporters.

Neither Kuwait embassy officials nor Anezy's family were available for
comment. 

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Subject: Re: dinner
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:09:29 GMT


In article <1992Sep13.181005.7032@umr.edu>, raza@ee.umr.edu (Md Ishfaqur Raza) writes:
> In article <1992Sep12.174821.10101@sol.cs.wmich.edu> hossain@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Moazzem) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep11.220957.17145@umr.edu> raza@ee.umr.edu (Md Ishfaqur Raza) writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>The only
> >>consolation ,we did not have to pay too much tip, as the waitress was from
> >>the subcontinent. 
> >
> >	Do I smell some racist remark here? Excuse me, Raza, if I am being too
> >	critical on your personal feeling. But are you trying to imply that if
> >	the waitress were not from subcontinent then you would have paid more
> >	tips? If that is the case, isn't that racist? 
> 
> On the contrary. My point is that ,to me the whole continent is a whole big 
> family. So from that point of view we can expect the warmth and understanding
> that members of a big family would have for each other. So I can get
> of paying less than the usual tip, which would have to be paid in a
> normal case. She was not loosing that much and I was'nt  gaining
> much, just the thought is what counts,  right ? 

I don't get it.  Did she *tell* you that she wanted less of a tip?  If
not, then how can *you* know what her thought was, i.e. how can you claim
that it's the thought which counts when you're doing her thinking for
her?  Surely, if the warmth and understanding you express above is
really true, that should move you to leave a *greater* tip than
normal, rather than a smaller one?  Clearly, in that case, you
wouldn't be losing much, and she wouldn't be gaining much...?


-- Shakil Ahmed
=======================================================================
Dept. of Computer Science     INTERNET: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu
P.O. Box 2158, Yale Station   BITNET  : ahmed-shakil@yalecs.bitnet
New Haven, CT 06520-2158      UUCP    : {ucbvax,harvard,...}!yale!ahmed
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: haque@sunrise.ece.clarkson.edu (Anisul Haque)
Subject: test, please ignore
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:13:39 GMT

This is a test. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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