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From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Environment
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:17:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <39673.2B5D07A8@puddle.fidonet.org>
     Daniela.Krone@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Daniela Krone) writes:

>Let me give examples so that you have
>an idea what I mean. More and more people in Germany don't go to
>McDonalds or other Fast Food restaurants ( which are there in a
>rather small number) because these Restaurants produce too much
>trash. 

I'm curious as to where you heard this.  I've spoken with a few people
from Germany, and from what I've heard, the German government would
not allow McDonald's to open restaurants unless they could do so
without producing trash.  I was under the impression that all of their
containers would have to be recyclable or edible, and that in fact,
some people order McDonald's french fries because they like the taste
of the "bags" the fries come in!

>                                   Bye, Dani  

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Mickey Rowe     (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)
From: Stephanie.Merino@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Stephanie Merino)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: general
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 14:25:21 PDT
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Hello there.  My name is Stephanie Merino and I am a senior at
Bonners Ferry High School.  Our high school only has maybe alittle
over five hundred students.  That's pretty small.  A few years back
I went to  a high school in Yuma, Az. that had close to three
thousand students.  Down there each classroom had at least one
computer and a TV moniter(for watching news etc...) So my question
is.... Do most high schools have computers in every room?  Cibola
High School (in Az.) is certainly not the largest high school
around and Az. is not the richest state.  I like being in a smaller
high school without a doubt but am I missing out?   Will I have a
hard time competeing with college students who have had the
benefits of more advanced or up-to-date high schools??  Or will my
college grades suffer if I don't have the computer training that
maybe I should at this grade level?? Any replie would be greatly
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From: sornsin@sendit.NoDak.edu (Kathleen Margaret Sornsin)
Subject: submarines
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:21:58 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


I have a student who is looking for information for a science project on sub
marines; I believe he is looking for scientific data on such things as: how do
they submerge, what keeps them down, brings them up, etc.  This is a freshman, 
so it doesn't need to be very deep information.  I have looked everywhere in my
library, and can
not come up with much.  We are just looking for basic info on the structure, and
what makes them do what they do!  Any help out there?  thanks! Kathy in Fargo
From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: sexual preference
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:39:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <40009.2B5E58FF@puddle.fidonet.org>
    Stephanie.Merino@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Stephanie Merino) writes:

>IF a person choses to be gay or lesbian fine, but I cannot understand
>why they should have the right to try and justify it by saying if was
>inborn.

I find it interesting that you seem to think that people should have
"a right" to make a claim about the causality of a given condition.
Don't you think it best that we continue to try to understand human
behavior without prejudice about what does or doesn't cause it?

>I often wonder what the parents say or feel about their children who
>say that somehow this gay "gene" was given to them by one or both of
>their parents??

Although I doubt there's any hard evidence about this, I suspect that
they don't feel as bad as parents from previous generations.  They
were told that their children were "abnormal" because the parents made
mistakes in raising them.  From the perspective of science, I fear
that this question is pretty much irrelevant, however.  A theory's
truth should not be rated by how the objects described by the theory
"feel" about it.

> I am not sure how I would deal with this situation if it presented
>itself with me.  What would you do?  Would you disown your child or
>try to help him?

This discussion probably doesn't belong in a group devoted to science,
but I think the first step should involve trying to *understand* the
child.

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Mickey Rowe     (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)
From: David.Rahfeldt@f29.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: wood heat
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:06:03 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/29 - The Catlin Gabel Sc, Portland OR

Hummmm

Ok.... lets start with the real basics...

You should experiment with a test tube and some wood in it...

Heat it with a stopper in it (high temp silacone prefered)(or ceramic or
 alumina or graphite or etc.)

with a glass tube for venting.... then (use safety goggles) light the output
 occasionally

You will note that at various temperatures you get off components that burn...

you might also collect and fractionate the compounds coming off (sure you can
figure out how to do that n..no?) and then see which ones burna dn at what
 temperatures they will turn to compustable fumes rather than solids...

crude testing ..but adequate for stove design initially....

What needs to be done then is several things...

First the reductant candidate (wood) must be heated to give off its reducable
compuinds.... or elements...

then you send these through a series of baffles and vants designed to keep a
 stable temperature range and oxident - reductant ratio in each baffle series
 to make sure that the combustion is full in each stage....

temeratures are VERY high in such stoves (usually white hot) but combustion of
 the wood is VERY complete with little particulate matter... and what is
 emitted is easy to trap in "tornado" style traps.... the output temperatures
 are also very low... if done right you can run the output exhaust out through
nothing more complex than plastic PVC piping as it is usually no warmer than
 about 120F max

The goal is to

seperate into murnable components

burn each component as hot and as fully stociometrically as possible

baffle outputs to seccor as much energy from the remainging gasses as possible

use centrifical speeration ont he remaining output gasses and matter to
 seperate out the bulk of the contrained particulate matter

*************************


Feel free to ask many mroe specific questiosn of you like...


shoulds we work through the process of designing and dimensioning and
 ...engineering such as stove here?

might be fun?

David


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From: Glenn.Christensen.Ii@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (Glenn Christensen Ii)
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Subject: money
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:59:00 PDT
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From: Jake.Gwin@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Jake Gwin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: abortion
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 09:54:31 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

 
     Abortion is a very controversial subject all over America and
also probly in many other countries of the world. The two main
groups opposing and supporting abortion are prolife and prochoice. 
 
The amin problem with the idea of abortion is it is difficult to
say weather aborting a baby is murder, or if the babies are not yet
developed.  I am a prolife supporter.  I am not a radical
demonstrationist, but I don't believe God intended child birth to
be an option whe a woman gets pregnant.  Now that sentence brings
up alot of discussion.  First of all, prolife and prochoice
supporters base most of their ideas on what they believe.  It is
not a clear cut decission of being legal or not.  Also, many people
feel that in the case of a rape, abortion should be legal.  This
is, as I feel, difficult to argue.  If a woman is raped she is, no
doubtedly, going to be mentally and emotionally injured, and
probably physically also.  If a baby is bor from this experience,
I would think that the mother would have a hard time really loving
the baby, and it would probly just bring up bad memories of the
past.  Many people say that there is always the chance for
adoption, but in a rape case, I don't know if it is fair to put the
mother through 9 months of pain, and possibly the rest of her life. 
 
As far as someone having sex with a loved one and then having an
abortion, I feel this is wrong.  It also gives our young people the
idea that sex has no consequence, so go ahead and do it.  Not only
does this promote immorality, but also aids.  I don't know about
you, but I'm not looking forward to a time when husbands and wives
have to have their spouces or fiance's have a blood test to check
for aids.  Not very romantic.  But thats another subject. 


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From: Octavian.Darie@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Octavian Darie)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: animals tests
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 16:33:29 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

        I think that animal testing is justified. Those animals are specially 
bred for such testing. People have lost contact with their environment. the 
only time they have contact with an animal is when they go to the zoo, where 
even a tiger seems SOOO CUTE! 
        One more thing, are you romanian?

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From: Jonathan.Corby@f371.n640.z3.fidonet.org (Jonathan Corby)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Science Fair Info
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 23:26:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/371 - ESE ESCAPE BBS, Brisbane Qld Australia

SF>I am currently working on science fair projects in my class and I would like
SF>to know if anyone can help me with a problem that I have.  Quite a few of my
SF>students are having difficulties coming up with original ideas for their
SF>projects and I am sort oif tapped out as well. Would any one have any
SF>suggestions as to where I could come up with some more ideas? Perhaps some
SF>videos or readings, magazines etc. Thank-you.

        I don't know what the age of your students is but here in Australia
there are many people using solar energy style projects.  Not simple little
radios and things but more large scale projects with a group of 20 or
so students.  Such things as solar powered cars and boats.
        Recently in the Australian press there was a report that some
school students had travelled the length of one of our large rivers in
record time without using fuel.  They used a sail boat and solar powered
outboard.  From memory there next project was a solar powered house
boat.
        Also there is a large competition here every year to see who
can build the most efficient solar powered car.  The big oil companies
and many industries participate in it.  This year many schools entered
and one came second I think.

        These are ambitious projects but if you can find similar
competitions and records to break it gives some incentive and goal.

  SLMR 2.1  Not all men are fools, some are bachellors.

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From: Rebekah.Venable@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Rebekah Venable)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: International travel
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 18:21:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

DR>Are you intending to stay there for work and career and family or
DR>return  stateside after the contract there is over?

        Well, my dad's contract will soon be over, in March, but we don't know where we will be going yet and my dad is still looking for a job.  It could be in the States or in Asia or nowhere.
                                Rebekah

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From: John.Thompson@f600.n139.z1.fidonet.org (John Thompson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: logging                  
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:26:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:139/600 - Homebuilt Flyer, Neenah WI

MD>  After a clear cut is finished, the whole area is planted 
MD>  with young seedlings.  We are doing a great job at managing the 
MD>  forests.  People in America are overreacting about a problem that 
MD>  does not exist.  I can guarantee you that your children will never 
MD>  live in mud fields.  I would like to have your input on any other 
MD>  problems that you see with logging.  

One of the problems with managed forests is that they tend to have less
species diversity than a "wild" forest.  That is, they tend to be re-planted
with only those trees that are considered to be economically important.  
This can be a problem because less diverse ecosystems tend to be easily
perturbed; for example, if a disease appears that affects the particular
species you happened to plant, the whole forest could be wiped out.  Or if
certain other plants and animals originally present require species that you
don't replant, they are simply "out of luck" with no habitat.  This makes
the entire system less stable and (unlike a "wild" forest) in need of
constant human intervention to persist.

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From: Shannon.Rae@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Shannon Rae)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: veterinary science
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:22:29 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

 
My name is Shannon Rae, I am from a small community in Idaho called
Bonners ferry.  I am a junior and now is the time to start thinking
about my future.  This is something I never really stop thinking
about.  I am thinking about going into veterinary science, but I
have a few questions that I hope someone will be able to answer.
First of all, generally how long do you have to go to school for
this? What should your major be? I love all kinds of animals and
have had to deal with several injured ones, but I don't really
think I could make a life out of seeing animals injured as severly
as I know they can be.  I want to have a job that involves working
with animals.  I have ridden horses most of my life, and would like
to continue working with them somehow, but I don't really know of
any jobs that involve this. Basically, I would like to hear from
anyone who is interested in the same thing as me.  If anyone has
any information on veterinary science and would like to share it,
I would enjoy hearing from you.  We have one of the best veterinary
schools in a place not to far from us. It is called Washington
State University. Like I said before I would like to hear from
someone because I am interested and don't really have too much
knowlege on this topic.
                                                 Thank you,
                                                 Shannon
Rae.December 22, 1992
From:    Joey Villelli
To:      All                                      Msg #408, 06-Jan- 93 09:19am
Subject: logging
 
I am writing in reply to your letter about logging. You stated that
we will never again see the beautiful forests our grandparents
loved.  We may not see the same exact forest, but we will see a
replanted forest just as beautiful.  In our community, we replant
our clear cuts, we don't just leave them bare.  It only takes
hundreds of years to grow old growth, not to grow full size trees. 
 
 
We will not lose all of our trees to logging, we usually clear cut
when there is disease among the trees.  Actually, this saves alot
of trees from disease.  I see no use for old growth, at least we
can replant and cut again when the replants are full grown.  Our
community is based on logging and we do it responsibly.  We are all
concerned about the outcome of our environment.
                              Thanks,
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From: Glenn.Christensen.Ii@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (Glenn Christensen Ii)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: old
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:03:56 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:356/11.0 - The College, Coos Bay OR

If it will interest anyone out there, I have some history of CoosBay oregon that I have decided to sell to any interested party.  In my possesion is a 1932 phone dir. that is in near good to great shape. 
 The two first pages are a bit bacterialy attacked but the rest is 
perfectly legible.  The pages after the first two are as readable as the day they were printed. I think this would be a real class act for some of the younger folks out there who have an interedt in the past. Call me at: O-503-267-2913.  If I'm not at home please leave a mess. with your thoughts and a return # so that I may return your call.  Have a nice day. Glenn J, christensen II 


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From: Ryan.Harrington@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Ryan Harrington)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: GENERAL
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 12:40:49 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

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From: Rebekah.Lawrence@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Rebekah Lawrence)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: SEXUAL PREFERENCE
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 11:26:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

Shellye Lindsay,  My name is Rebekah Lawrence and I recently
recieved a message from you on my topic of sexual preference.  I
think you misunderstood me.  I was trying my best to give an
unbiased opinion, and in doing so, you misunderstood me, or so it
appears.  You kept telling me to find what was right for me!  I did
by no means even insinuate that I was homosexual.  In fact, I gave
a breif opinion on the fact that I felt it was immoral and wrong. 
 
I do not know where you got the idea that I thought it was okay,
because I blatantly said NO!  Now, correct me if I  am wrong, but
that is what I gathered from your article.  I did not want to get
anyone too upset by putting down homosexuality, but now you have
misunderstood me.  Once again,  the only purpose of my message in
the first place was to get some feedback on what others thought.
Instead I was misunderstood.  Sorry to have confused you. Thanks
for your concern although I did not need the advise. 


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