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 *** Reply to note of 10/15/92 13:03
 From: Elliot Palais
 Subject: Citing E-mail
 There is a document which discusses the problems of citing this
 type of information along with examples. To retrieve the document,
 send mail to:
     COMSERVE@RPIECS
  In body, put: SEND COMPFILE BIBREF.

 Elliot Palais, Social Sciences Coordinator
 Arizona State University Libraries,
 Tempe, AZ 85287; IACESP@ASUACAD; IACESP@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
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From:         Editors of PMC <PMC@NCSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Definition of electronic journal

My own feeling is that the word "electronic" in "electronic journals"
means that the journals are distributed on electronic media, not just
(or not only) transmitted by electronic means.  That would leave out
of the definition any fax-distributed newsletters, since the medium is
paper (OK, I can see this one coming: what about computers that act as
fax machines and store the incoming data as binary files?).  I usually
specify "networked electronic journals" when I want to indicate what
we usually think of as "e-journals"--and I would include in the more
general "electronic journal" categories those journals which are
distributed on disk.

John Unsworth
Co-editor, _Postmodern Culture_
From: drobison@library.Berkeley.EDU ((David Robison))
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Subject: Re: Definition of electronic journal
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:41:32 GMT
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
To my mind, an electronic journal is one that can be read (or
listened to for the blind) in its electronic form. So something
distributed on CD-ROM (and delivered by FedEx, etc.) is an
e-journal if you read it through electronic means. A fax
on the other hand is not, even if it was sent from the
electronic form through a fax modem.  I would consider such
a beast a *paper copy* of an e-journal.

David F.W. Robison                   Internet: drobison@library.berkeley.edu
Editor, Current Cites                  Bitnet: drobison@ucblibra
Library Technology Watch Program        Voice: (510)642-7600
UC Berkeley Library                       Fax: (510)643-7891
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From:         MICHAEL STRANGELOVE <441495@acadvm1.uottawa.ca>
Subject:      Listserv and FTP file Size

What is the maximum size of an ascii file that can safely be sent
via listserv?  This is related to a larger question I have been
meaning to ask for sometime now, what are the maximum sizes of
files for transmission over the Net via both FTP and Listserv.
These numbers will help define what limits should be but on e-serials
and documents.  Also -- how quickly will we see these numbers change
as the Net grows?


Michael Strangelove
Department of Religious Studies
University of Ottawa

         BITNET: 441495@Uottawa
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         S-Mail: 177 Waller, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 CANADA
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Subject:      Re: Listserv and FTP file Size
              13 Oct 1992 08:22:31 EDT from <441495@acadvm1.uottawa.ca>

Michael--

The safest max. size for ascii sent via listserv seems to be about
49Kb.  This is just below the incoming filesize limit for Compuserve
customers (50K, including header), and seems to be within the limits
of some of the other more finicky nodes on the net--but I wouldn't
swear that a 49Kb message will get through everywhere.  We used to
break up longer PMC files into chunks of no more than 49Kb and that
seemed to obviate any size-related delivery problems... we've recently
decided not to do this any more, though, because it imposes an annoying
burden on the majority of our readers (the need to request multiple
parts of a long essay, and the need to assemble them once received):
most people don't seem to have problems receiving files of even 100Kb,
in my experience.

John Unsworth
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:20:23 EDT
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From:         Ann Okerson <ann@cni.org>
Subject: Re: Citing E-mail
              Oct 16, 92 8:28 am

We call your attention again to the ISO draft standard, whose current
state of publication is not clear (to me).  As of May, it was being
re-read/revised to become a working draft standard for us all to try
out for a few years, but I don't know if that document is yet released
or not.  Its availability might render obsolete any drafts from other
places.  It covers journals as part of a larger framework.

Ann Okerson/ARL
ann@cni.org
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:18:22 -0500
From:         "(WELLIK, Kay)" <KWELLIK@LIFE.JSC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Call for Papers

The Program Committee of the Hospital Libraries Section invites
submission of papers for presentation at the Section's
contributed papers session at the 1993 MLA Annual Meeting in Chicago, IL
on May 18, 1993.  The theme of the session will be "Variations on
a Theme: Valaue-added Services in Hospital Libraries."

By nature, librarians are service-oriented.  The addition of value-
added service means taking those extra steps to promote the highest
customer satisfaction and loyalty while contributing to the
organization's continued quality improvement.

Papers may report innovative practices or research findings.
Suggested topics include abut are not limited to:
The role of the hospital librarian in quality filtering of
scientific inromation.
Customized resources and services apropriate in the hospital
library setting.
Value-added services necessary to respond to JCAHO's Agenda
for Change.
Anticipating impending changes in information transfer and
exploiting them to our advantage.
Exploring a new paradigm of librarianship in hospital libraries.

Submit abstracts of 250 words or less, double-spaced on 8 1/2"
x 11" white paper.  Indicate primary author's name, address,
and daytime telephone number.  Send the abstract to Kay E.
Wellik, St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center, Health Sciences
Library, P.O. Box 2071, Phoenix, AZ 85001.

The deadline for abstract submission is November 1, 1992.
Notice of preliminary acceptance will be made by December
31, 1992.  Copies of final papers must be submitted by Marcy
15, 1993.  The presentations will be approximately 15 minutes.

Kay Wellik
St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical
Phoenix, AZ
602-285-3299, Fax 602650-7154
kwellik@life.jsc.nasa.gov
From: ny0055@MAIL.NYSER.NET (The Health Foundation)
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Subject: CDS-ISIS INFORMATION
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:50:45 GMT
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TO:  Multiple recipients of list MEDLIB-L <MEDLIB-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

We are looking for general information on CDS-ISIS.
Can you give us your general impressions of the program or can you
please direct us to someone who is knowledgeable about the program?
Thank you.

Katherine Diaz
Information Program Specialist
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From: LAURA@DCSMSERVER.MED.SCAROLINA.EDU
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Subject: subscriptions
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:21:05 GMT
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Please subscribe me to the MEDLIB-L list.

Thanks!

Laura Townsend
Catalog Librarian
School of Medicine Library
University of South Carolina
Columbia, SC 29208
From: bishop@ALEXIA.LIS.UIUC.EDU (Ann Bishop)
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Subject: Networking Conference
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:53:06 GMT
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PLEASE NOTE:  This announcement is being sent to multiple lists:
AUTOCAT, BI-L, CWIS-L, GOVDOC-L, LIBADMIN, LIBREF-L,
MEDLIB-L, NETTRAIN, PACS-L.
==============================================

CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT

30th Annual Clinic on Library Applications of Data Processing

EMERGING COMMUNITIES:
INTEGRATING NETWORKED INFORMATION INTO LIBRARY SERVICES

Graduate School of Library and Information Science
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

April 4-6, 1993

Wide area computer networks, such as those comprising the
Internet, are providing libraries with access to a growing array of
information resources. They are also opening new channels for
communication both within and among organizations.  Thus,
computer networking encourages information professionals to
merge, with others, into new electronic communities.  The
upcoming conference will provide an opportunity for information
professionals in a wide variety of settings to share their expertise
and experiences related to the integration of networked
information into library services.  Over 20 speakers--including
Paul Evan Peters, Clifford Lynch, Tom Grundner, Pauline A.
Cochrane, Charles Hildreth, John R. Garrett, Pat Molholt, Bruce
R. Schatz, Hope N. Tillman, Erik Jul, and Ronald L. Larsen--have
been assembled to discuss their research, experience, and
insights.  Conference topics include: the use of computer networks
to accomplish institutional goals, provide traditional services, and
communicate with users in public, school, academic, and special
libraries; legal, economic, and policy issues related to the
electronic dissemination of information; bibliographic control of
networked information; and new roles for information
professionals.  In addition, pre-conference workshops led by
George H. Brett and Greg Newby, Tracy LaQuey Parker and Philip
Doty, Anne G. Lipow, and F. W. Lancaster will provide attendees
with an opportunity to learn more about basic Internet use,
options and procedures for obtaining an Internet connection,
techniques for training staff and end-users in network use, and
methods for assessing networking needs and impacts.  For more
information, contact:

Ann Bishop, DPC Conference Chairperson
Graduate School of Library and Information Science
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
426 David Kinley Hall
1407 West Gregory Drive
Urbana, IL  61801

(217) 244-3299
dpc@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
dpc@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:08:13 PDT
From:         ahadley@CUP.PORTAL.COM
Subject:      about reference questions

I'd like to suggest that the subject line of reference questions be:

Ref?: (topic of question)

and that responses to that question be sent with the subject:

Re: Ref ?: (topic)

That way if I (the reader) have no interest in the original question
or the responses I can cut down on my reading of messages.

Thanks for all your answers to my previous questions and to giving
this idea a chance.

Alice E. Hadley
US Naval Hospital, Guam - ahadley@cup.portal.com
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:15:39 -0400
From:         "(Joe Harzbecker)" <harz@MED-ITVAX1.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Index Medicus/CD-ROM

Dear Friends:

One other reason for retaining a subscription to the printed
IM is its occasional utility in introducing users to
searching, mesh concepts, etc. It is a good idea to examine
the literature base for one year, or even one month before
running the search electronically. I am not suggesting that
we do this each and every time we run a search. To visually
see the amount of pages on a given subject, subheading
breakdowns, language, etc. has its uses. Many experienced
professional searchers still do this, although it may only
be on an occasional basis. Beginners obviously will
appreciate searching cd-rom through an acquaintance with
the printed IM.
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:37:26 CDT
From:         BARKERB@SLAB.UNT.EDU
Subject:      SCAMC Proceedings

I am looking for a copy of the 1991 SCAMC proceedings.  Does anyone
know where I can get a copy?  I am writing a research paper on
systems and user interfaces and need several articles out of that
issue.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance

Bob Barker
barkerb@slab.unt.edu************************************************************
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*   Bob Barker                           University of North Texas   *
*   Doctoral Fellow                      School of Library and       *
*   barkerb@slab.unt.edu                   Information Science       *
*   phone: (817)565-2445                 P.O. Box 13796              *
*                                        Denton, TX  76203-3796      *
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From: KINGH@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
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Subject: RE: Index Medicus on CD-ROM
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:51:00 GMT
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Original_cc:  KINGH

Before cancelling the print counterpart to a CD-ROM title, I'd check with
administration and frequent users.  Also, you might want answers to some
of the following questions before making the decision to cancel:
        1.  Can more than 1 user access the CDROM at the same time?  If not,
how will you handle queuing problems?
        2.  Would users want to be able to look up an author without having
to logon to the CDROM or wait for it to be free or learn how to use it?  Author
searches using the print IM can be quicker at times than using the CDROM
version?
        3.  What will you do for a backup if you're CDROM stations crash or
are damaged or infected by a virus or a disc is stolen?
        4.  Will you need to instruct users before they can successfully and
independently use the CDROM version?  If yes, how quickly can you provide the
necessary instruction and search assistance so that all users will be equipped
with the necessary skills to advantage the CDROM index?  If instruction for all
frequent users will take more than a few months, should you wait until a
majority of users possess the necessary skills before cancelling your subscripti
on to the print version?
        5.  Will you be able to secure a maintenance agreement that assures
same-day service for your CDROM equipment?

Hannah King
SUNY HSC Library at Syracuse
kingh@snysyrv1
kingh@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:31:00 CDT
Reply-To:     Sandra Ballasch <sandra-ballasch@UIOWA.EDU>
From:         Sandra Ballasch <CADSANTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SCAMC Proceedings

After reading all the postings on this subject, I have to say
that it seems to me that an original posting explaining why
regular channels had failed to provide the needed volume would
have eliminated all the verbage up to this point.  On the strength
of the original posting, my sentiments were the same as Millard
Johnson's, after hearing the reasoning for posting the request I
see no problem with using the list for such a purpose.  I do feel
that sarcastic comments on the value or lack thereof of the traffic
on the list is counterproductive.  A little humor never hurts anyone,
nor does seriously considering viewpoints different from ones own.
From: DSCHNEID@INDYSTTI.BITNET (Debra Schneider)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.medlib-l
Subject: Re: SCAMC Proceedings
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:00:31 GMT
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              15 Oct 1992 09:43:36 CDT from <BARKERB@SLAB.UNT.EDU>

No....just inappropriately asked ones.
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:41:51 -0500
From:         "(GLASER, JUNE)" <JGLASER@LIFE.JSC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      RE: Position announcement--Correction

     ACKNOWLDEDGE RECEIPT AT:  12-OCT-1992 14:41
From: BARKERB@SLAB.UNT.EDU
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Subject: Re: SCAMC Proceedings
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:43:36 GMT
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Life is too short to be so rude.  I posted here because ILL has been
unable to get the 1991 issue.  I was hoping that someone on the list
would be so kind as to copy some of the articles I needed.  I just
found out that 1991 is just coming off the presses so no-one has it,
so ILL could not even get it if they tried.  A positive suggestion
would have been much more appreciated than any scathing remark.  I
thought with a librarian, there were no 'stupid'
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*   Bob Barker                           University of North Texas   *
*   Doctoral Fellow                      School of Library and       *
*   barkerb@slab.unt.edu                   Information Science       *
*   phone: (817)565-2445                 P.O. Box 13796              *
*                                        Denton, TX  76203-3796      *
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From: HSLSTART@UBVM.BITNET (Nancy Start)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.medlib-l
Subject: Ref Q subject lines
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:01:37 GMT
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MEDLIB-L Readers,

I think that Alice Hadley's suggestion for "flagging"
reference questions in the subject line deserves a try.
We may like it!

When submitting a reference question to MEDLIB-L, use
a subject line such as:

Ref ?:  (topic)
or
Ref Q:  (topic)

Please try to be as explicit as possible when you describe
your topic in the subject line.  (For all MEDLIB-L postings,
not just reference questions...)

Thanks!

Nancy
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:57:48 MDT
From:         USERLLEA@UALTAMTS.BITNET

We have just started to receive issues to our journal subscription for
Protein Science.  Each issues comes with a MAC disk which contains
sequence information.  We are trying to figure out how to handle this.
What are other people doing.  We currently only circulate our journals
on the weekend but we have to ensure that the disks dont get desensitized
Some questions we have had are?
Are you circulating the journal?
How will you bind this journal?
Are you making bakcjup copies of the disks?
Do you have computers in the library for the use of such materials?
Are you keeping the journal in the stacks with other titles or
keeping it shelved in a special place?
Any other comments
Thanks for your healp
Lea Starr
John Scott Heatlh Science Library
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
userllea@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:27:27 EDT
From:         "Jonathan Lord" <jml4s@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: FDA EMBARGO

Can someone explain why June Glaser keeps sending these cryptic messages to
MEDLIB-L:  (Nancy Start - are you out there?)


On Oct 13,  3:34pm, "(GLASER, JUNE)" wrote:
> Subject: RE: FDA EMBARGO
>      ACKNOWLDEDGE RECEIPT AT:  13-OCT-1992 12:04
> -- End of excerpt from "(GLASER, JUNE)" <JGLASER@LIFE.JSC.NASA.GOV>


This is the dozenth such message I have received from MEDLIB-L in the past
week.


jonathan









JML4s@Virginia.edu / University of Virginia Health Sciences Library
Box 234 / University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
Charlottesville, Virginia  22908
From: johnson@ALEXIA.LIS.UIUC.EDU (Anita Johnson)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.medlib-l
Subject: Index Medicus on CD-ROM
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:49:01 GMT
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     I have recently purchased the complete Medline on CD-PLUS CD-ROM.  I think
I should be able to save space and money by cancelling my subscriptions to
Index MEdicus and Cumulated I.M.  I would also like to discard CIM back to
1966.  Has anybody experienced any pitfalls in having only CD-ROM available
and no print I.M.
     We serve a 300 bed hospital, 250 physicians, 3800 total employees, and
students in nursing and allied health, residents & interns in internal medicine,
oral surgery, family practice and colon and rectal surgery, and just about
anybody else who wants to use the library.
     Thanks for your help.

Anita D. Johnson
Carle Foundation Hospital
611 W. Park
Urbana, Illinois 61801
(217)383-3011
fax: (217)383-3452
Johnson@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:42:59 CDT
From:         BARKERB@SLAB.UNT.EDU
Subject:      E-Mail Addresses for ASIS Medical Information Systems SIG

I am a student at the University of North Texas and chair of the
Medical Information Systems SIG in our ASIS chapter.  I wish to get
in contact with the national offers of the MIS SIG but have so far
been unable to locate their E-Mail addresses.  I hope the list can
help.  I am looking for:

Joanne Marshall (Chair)

Patricia Wolfgram (Chair-elect)

M. Susan Bailey (Communications Officer)

If anyone has an idea how I might contact these people, I would be
most grateful.  Thank you in advance.

Bob Barker
barkerb@slab.unt.edu

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*   Bob Barker                           University of North Texas   *
*   Doctoral Fellow                      School of Library and       *
*   barkerb@slab.unt.edu                   Information Science       *
*   phone: (817)565-2445                 P.O. Box 13796              *
*                                        Denton, TX  76203-3796      *
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