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From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:21:02 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

best@anasazi.com (Mike Best) writes:

> Putting aside the fact that your knowledge of Quayle is limited to
> stand-up comics and television news bites, I would agree to some extent
> that Quayle has made some incongruous/conflicting statements.

That's putting a good face on it. I've seen enough of his speeches in their
entirety to be convinced that he is uniformly vapid, sometimes hilariously
so. The guy is not the least bit special. He has nothing particular on the
ball, yet he has been placed in a position of potentially grave
responsibility, a job that should have been given to a real person. It's
comedy and tragedy rolled into one.

> What I find so disturbing is that people such as Al Gore do it in a 
> more verbose manner which tends to give people such as yourself the
> "deer frozen by headlights"-syndrome.  Take, for example, Gore's book
> EITB. 

Hmmm. Can't remember ever commenting on Gore. Will you refresh my memory?

> o  He believes population growth for others while he simultaneously 
>    extolls the virtues his own large family (page 307).

You may be right that he says this, but I've seen too many millions of
quotes taken out of context to accept your synopsis on faith.

> The list goes on.  If Quayle had stated these things we would certainly
> be exposed to more gratuitous bashing that has left most of us numb
> to the intended effects (to hate Quayle).

You desperate Quayle supporters miss the deeper anthropological
significance. Quayle is the scrub of the human litter. It's obedience to
natural law that makes us want to boot him around the circle.

> I STILL can't get over the fact that you appear to be a Democrat/Statist
> (as in Government is the point from which solutions to problems derive)
> and yet you are the namesake of the Brittan, John Locke, who is one 
> of the Enlightenment's greatest thinkers.  His philosophies of individual
> rights etc. are one of the primary foundations of our government and
> are nearly totally in contrast to the concept of big government and 
> group rights (Dems).

The John Locke you refer to would have had little patience for VP Quayle.
Whether he had the sense of humor to appreciate the one thing Quayle is
good for, which is brightening our lives with his comical foolishness, I
can't say.

John
From: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Health Care & Jobs (Disappearing) was: Re: Stupidity of Am. Masses
Keywords: GM sells out American workers!
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:27:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

I think you'll find, in general, that few doctors are members of a union.
Maybe in a few big city hospitals.... I have heard of a few residents' unions.

-- 
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Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
From: kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:01:21 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Still, the part about missiles "going through doors"  is a VERY apt
description of, for example, the Tomahawk or Harpoon cruise missiles. In
fact, I saw one film clip where a Harpoon missile ACTUALLY DID fly through
an open door on a target ship, its seeker apparently having homed on the
reflection of the door jamb. 

And I find it VERY difficult to accept Clinton's sudden conversion from
dove to hawk.

Ken Mitchell
kmitche@eis.calstate.edu
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From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:01:36 GMT

In article <BuJrAn.Mw@eis.calstate.edu> kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell) writes:
>hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz  Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs at Wellington writes:
> 
>In article <1992Sep14.121218.19645@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>,
>kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
> 
>>>Oh, Quayle has done some stupid things while in office. But, so has just
>>>about every President - Ford falling down all the time, Carter telling us
>>>how he spent evenings discussing world politics with Amy for her opinions,
> 
>>Discussing things with your wife is stupid, then? So much for Family
>>Values (tm).
>
>Actually, Amy was Jimmy Carter's 11 year-old daughter. Rosalyn Carter was
>the First Lady. 
>
>Y'know, I hold no particular love for George Bush, and Dan Qauyle doesn't
>impress me much either. But however bad they are, compared to their
>competition, they look positively brilliant.  Clinton has structured his
>ENTIRE LIFE toward being President; it's the only thing in the WORLD that
>he really belives in. Al Gore is an eco-freak who spouts bad science, and
>has, according to the New Republic magazine (a strongly liberal,
>pro-Clinton rag!) stated that the media should censor scientist who
>disagree with his apocalyptic predictions of catastrophe, because by the
>time we learn the truth, it would be too late to do anything about it. 
>
>And as scary as "President Quayle" sounds (and I'll agree, I'm not
>particularly comfortable with that), Mike Deignan has a point; "Justice
>Cuomo" is a LOT scarier. And while we could get rid of Quayle at the next
>election, we'd be stuck with Cuomo for LIFE.
>
>Ken Mitchell
>kmitche@eis.calstate.edu
>

What do you have against Cuomo?  Geez,  it's not like God Father IV
is going to take place in the Supreme Court of USA.  Personally
I think Cuomo will make a great justice, much better than those
recent republican "I got the job 'cause I will last another 60 years 
on the bench" appointees lately.  

A smart person like Mario Cuomo will constantly ask himself the "To
be or not to be" questions, that acturally make him superior
to your average politicans.  Simple minded person like Danny Quayle,
will only do what he's told by his ultra-conservative backers, and
his wife, which seems to be the brain in the family.   
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From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:31:35 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <6227@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
->  For a conservative, that's a very liberal capitalization of "liberal."
->  Who is Democrates, some Greek philosopher?
->  Don't forget to put an apostrophe in your contractions.
->  Your penultimate word was a gaffe.
->  Don't end a sentence with a preposition, especially when you want an adverb.

 Thank you. I have been wondering how long it would take for someone to notice
this. And I will continue to do it. I learned how to tweak elitist from RUSH 
and Danny Boy.

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
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From: michael@adriaan.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:45:32 GMT
	<5239@news.duke.edu>
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Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: eyc@acpub.duke.edu's message of 11 Sep 92 01:17:51 GMT

In article <5239@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:

  =jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
  =>> Rush Limbaugh seems to be the only popular media
  =>> soul who has decided to become rich doing it.
  =>
  =>There's a sucker born every minute.

  =All 13 million of us in the 520 stations around the country.
   
And remember, 13 million lemmings *can't* be wrong!

  =Emil Thomas Chuck (Duke BME '93)		eyc@acpub.duke.edu
   
Chaplin.
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From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign TV Ad
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:38:10 GMT

alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:

>In article <BuH1Fy.FHv@news.udel.edu> barich@bach.udel.edu (Dewey H Barich) writes:
>	[re: rush twisting the facts for political gain]

>>For political gain?  Whose?  He's said several times that he has no
>>interest in running for President, he doesn't want to owe favors to
>>campaign contibutors.  Maybe a lower office, but why campaign nationally
>>for a regional office?  I'm not saying you are wrong, but who's
>>political gain is he doing all this for?

>	Rush may not be interested in running for office, but he's
>sure interested in becoming a Republican party insider. There's big
>rewards available for someone who can be a daily 3 hour commercial
>for the Republican party.

Oh, then that explains why Dan Rather is so well off...

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire
From: af041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Webster)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Bush whould/will burn for the delay in florida
Date: 5 Sep 1992 16:24:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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In a recent article  alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) says:
 
{material deleted}
>>And there are also those who forget that Bush picked up 100% of the cost of
>>the Hugo disaster recovery effort as well, and that was certaily no election
>>year.
 
>Did he? I thought that the taxpayers picked up the tab on that one,
>working in accord with existing policy. Should George get a medal for doing
>what he's paid to do?
 
Public radio this A.M. did a great job of slamming George for what was
 "obviously an attempt to buy votes"
 
Per the broadcast, the Republican campaign is composed solely of gimmicks and
attempts to buy votes.
 
But then, I wouldn't expect public radio to admit that there was any validity
to the Republican Party.  It would violate their charter <g>.
 
-- 
Mark Webster                   |  mwebster@reach.com    or
Cleveland, OH                  |  af041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu


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From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Family Values?  We don' need no...
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:34:13 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

FACT:
Bush and Quayle talk a good fight, but do they really have the best 
interests of America's disintegrating families in mind?  They talk
and talk and talk incessantly about how the families of America are
not what they used to be, and how we need to return to "basic values."

FACT:
Bush and Quayle have done nothing to bring about a change in America
that would help the ailing families.  Too many families are poverty-
stricken and cannot afford the values extolled by GHWB and JDQ ( it is
easier to keep your values when you can feed your kids!)  If they 
really cared about these families, they would act instead of vomiting
consevative rhetoric about the "Liberal Congress"

Anyone who supports them on this issue stands on shaky ground. 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| Jared Dahl             | "My heart is human, my blood is boiling, | 
| Systems Programmer     |  my brain IBM"                           |
| IBM - Rochester, MN    |              -- STYX,  "Mr. Roboto"      |
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Opinions expressed are mine, not IBM's.
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From: best@anasazi.com (Mike Best)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton Appeals to Hate
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:43:05 GMT
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA

In article <nate.550@psygate.psych.indiana.edu> nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
>aaiken@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew C. Aiken) writes:
>>       I am surprised that no one remarked on this board about a 
>>comment made by Bill Clinton on Labor Day in Independence, Mo.  
>>After stating the "fact" that the "richest" 1 per cent "controls"
>>more wealth than the "poorest" 90 per cent, he said that this election
>>is about "the rich versus everyone else."
>
>    I dunno Andrew. Sounds like "Greed" to me.
>
Sorry to say it Nate, but what you said sounds like "Envy" to me.

(See how this class warfare works?  The only way it will go away 
 once people are aroused is to make everyone equal - and believe
 me, you don't want to live like me :)

Furthermore, wealth does not innately exist - it is created through
the "labor" of man.  Gold has no intrinsic value in the ground but
when it is processed it is quite valuable.  Therefore, the poorest
90 percent can become wealthy if they are allowed as _individuals_
to achieve their potential and to keep the fruits of their labor.
Does that last line sound familiar?  It's not in the Democrats
philosophy but it is in that of the Founders.


Mike Best
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From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: Why Can't Republicans or Programmers Spell?
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:27:03 GMT

jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:

>Computer programmers built the USENET and at the same time initiated this
>completely bogus and self-serving idea that the illiterate use of the
>language was okay, and even irrelevant. Of course, if they wrote their
>programs with the same attitude, the programs would not work. These
>same people belch at the dinner table, wear their jeans with the top half
>of their butt cracks showing, and bath infrequently. And then they complain
>they can't get dates. Sadly, they usually end up marrying insane women who
>are looking for a way out of the half-way house.

>What does this have to do with Republicans? Simple: Republicans make lousy
>programmers. How do you like them apples?

Actually, I've noted a certain lack of logic coming from the Democrats
lately.  The above post is exhibit "A".  Logic... programming... hmmmmm.

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
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From: richardg@ssd.intel.com (Richard Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:15:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.131800.26507@news.uiowa.edu>, williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
|> From article <6222@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil>, by jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke):
|> > jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
|> > 
|> >> It doesn't get any better than this.  I again propose the "e" test for
|> >> any future posts you may have.  Before you post it, think about the fuss
|> >> the Democrats and the media made of Quayle mispelling a word.  Think
|> >> back to how that "non-issue" was brought up by almost every Democratic
|> >> speaker at the convention, and then ask yourself if your post will make
|> >> you look as foolish.
|> > 
|> 
|> 1. Now Dan Quayle brings up the spelling thing every time he gives a speech.
|>    I guess he's decided that the poor-speller constituency is worth
|>    pursuing.
|> 
|> 2. Dan Quayles primary purpose for the Republican is to appeal to arch-
|>    conservatives in the party.  And apparently they love him; rush to
|>    his defense, blame the liberal media for his image problems, etc. etc.
|> 
|>    On a good day, Dan Quayle is a complete dunderhead.  On a bad day,
|>    someone should get him a CAT scan and look for brain lesions.  Why
|>    are conservatives so attracted to him.
|> 
|> 3. By the way, being a glutton for punishment, I've been watching
|>    Quayle quite a bit on CSPAN.  Anyone else notice he's developed a
|>    real penchant for bizarre hand gestures?  He's beginning to look
|>    like Madonna in the 'Vogue' video.

I have also noticed.  It looks to me at times as though his hands are trying
to communicate something entirely different from what is coming out of his
mouth.  If you turn the sound off he kinda looks like the robot in "Lost in 
Space" when it would flail its arms and shout DANGER! DANGER!

richard
richard@ssd.intel.com
"Something is happening here and you don't know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones.
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From: glass@devl.fnal.gov (Michael Glass)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Hyperbole about Clarence Thomas
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:10:21 GMT
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titmas@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Eric Titmas) writes:

>The way you stated it,  it sounds like Thomas thinks it's ok to beat confessions
>out of prisoners. 

He does.  There was a quite recent Supreme Court case in which some prisoners 
had, in fact, beaten black and blue for no particular good reason, and
Justice Thomas (as I recall) was one of the justices who felt this was
perfectly O.K.  It was a fairly outrageous decision.

Perhaps one of the a.f.d-q legal experts can give a better version?  I'd be
interested.

-- Michael Glass
   glass@adcalc.fnal.gov
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From: foy@aero.org (Richard Foy)
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Subject: Re: Replying to New Zealand  was Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 15 Sep 1992 03:36:33 GMT
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In article <1992Sep14.080624@IASTATE.EDU> danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) writes:
>In article <18vj0iINNgp9@news.aero.org>, foy@aero.org (Richard Foy) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep14.121218.19645@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>
>kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
...
>
>   Oh please, spare me the idiotic, irrelevant guilt trips.  We should have
>mutual interest in one another's governmental processes because were all doing
>buisiness together and because it will help us coordinate efforts to avoid war,
>famine, pestelence, and Republican politics.
>
>> Richard Foy
>> Redondo Beach CA       Standard Disclaimer
>
>   I don't mean the suffering the US has caused is idiotic or irrelevant, but
>rather that those are minor, trivial reasons for interest in one another's
>governments.
>
>Dan
>Danwell@IASTATE.EDU

All true. I think however, that the direct interference in a countrys internal
politics provides a much stronger reason for the citizens of that country to
be interested in the US. Think how strongly US citizens would react if another
country interferred in our political system as much as we have in that of
many other countrys.

The coordinated action you mention are very important but they are not
as motivating as the direct interference.

Richard Foy  
Redondo Beach CA       Standard Disclaimer
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From: hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER)
Subject: Re: Clinton campaigns in Republican territory
Organization: ILS
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:39:28 GMT

In article <1917@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep9.205623.2473@ils.nwu.edu> hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER) writes:
> ->I did not watch this story on TV,  but I did read it in the paper and on
> ->the net.  If you bother to read the article closely rather then just
> ->positing liberal bias to it you will notice that comments from the audiance
> ->are reported in great detail; 	
> 
>  I was talking about TV coverage of the event. Not the article. Why should I
> waste bandwidth pointing out the obvious. The ARTICLE was a good one. The TV
>coverage of the event is what I was trying to address.

It was a good article because it made Clinton look bad?  The press is
Liberal biased if it makes Bush look bad?  

Stevie,  is negative press of Democratic canidates objective while negative
press of Repubicans (Sp?) liberal bias?  Perhapes the bias is in the eye of
the beholder?  Perhapes tyour definition of Objectivity is biased towards
Repubicans (sp?).  


> 
> ->I also remeber the Clinton blew his top friday at reporters who were
> ->questioning him about his record on the draft.  He accused them of grilling
> ->him on this issue while they ignored new charges against Bush on
> ->Iran-Contra.  Seems kind of strange that co-conspiritors would act in this
> ->way?
> 
>  "I have said all that Im going to say about this." Clintons typical response
> will not work forever. Bush addressed his "No new taxes" mistake. When will
> Clinton start addressing his ? I always thought the press made a mistake in
> the last election by attacking Quayle and ignoring Iran-Contra.
>  With todays current anti-congress sentiment, trying to attack bush for break-
> ing a Congressional Law intended to tie Presidential hands will not get them
> anywhere.
> 
>  Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.

But still you silly assertion that somehow the press is trying to promote
liberal, democratic causes stands,  even though you don't stand by it.  The
press is giving Mr. Clinton a bad time over the draft issue as it has given
Quayle a bad time, as it has given Bush a bad time.   


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 <1992Sep14.193756.29264@anasazi.com>

In article <1992Sep14.193756.29264@anasazi.com>, best@anasazi.com (Mike Best)
says:
>
>If the people want an orator then Quayle is not their man.  Perhaps you
>prefer demagogues to statesmen.
>
>Mike Best

That's true, Quayle did say he was known as the chief graverobber of his
state.  But I didn't know that graverobber=statesman.

Jeff Luck                                *Standard Disclaimer*
CES Systems Office
Penn State University             "Whatever you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                   -Dan Quayle to Ohio Farmers, 1988
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In article <1932@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) whimpers
after being brought up short for his blatherings:
> Thank you. I have been wondering how long it would take for someone to notice
> this. And I will continue to do it. I learned how to tweak elitist from RUSH 
> and Danny Boy.


Tweak this, son.


Dhanesh

  What Kent said.

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