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From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Valley Girl/Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls & Shatner/Nimoy...on CD?!
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:11:05 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Oct12.175901.19424@wam.umd.edu> dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.080455.3288@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
>>In article <farant.1ua2@terapin.com> farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason) writes:
>>>How many folks out there have actually seen Beyond The Valley of The Dolls ??
>>
>>Does anyone know where this treasure can be purchased on video?
>
>It can't (legally), unless you find someone willing to sell you one of
>the original tapes (from several years ago). Fox still refuses to release it,
>though they did recently get it re-rated from X to NC-17 so there may be
>something in the works.
>                                          -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu

Wonder why they bothered. It had been resubmitted to the MPAA and rated
'R' for re-release. I saw it, and nothing appeared to be missing.
This was at a Landmark Theater in Tucson in the early 80's. 
The idiots at Fox are lucky to have ever made a dime of the film. Their 
handling of it over the years is pathetic. The 70's re-release with
"Myra Breckinridge" would have been interesting though...
Be patient. "Susperia" was the most requested release for years.
We finally got a directors cut of the film, Last year<?>. Course, it isn't
letterboxed, but we did finally get it, longer than ever before.
We just have to get interest in "BTVOTD" back up, I guess.
But it seems that EVERYTHING is coming out, so it is pry just a matter of 
time.

					--Judex--
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From: mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:19:12 GMT

Wow!  Someone else who was scared sleepless by X: Man with the X-Ray
Eyes!  Me, too!  2 others stand out to me as being especially scary as
a kid, both of which I saw in theatres (nothing on TV really scared me
except Psycho and one of those Mexican 1960's witch movies).  The
opening of Black Sunday (d. Mario Bava; w/Barbara Steele), where
Steele is put into an iron maiden, had me running screaming from the
theatre--and I have never seen the rest of the movie (anyone know if
it is on video?).  The other one was, believe it or not, the fairly
innocuous Day of the Triffids, which I _did_ manage to catch later
in my adult life.  Don't know what scared me so much about it, I
just remember dragging my mother out of the theatre on the pretense
that my stomach hurt!  I think the very idea of mass devastation presented 
early in the film scared me.
--Michael
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Darkman
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:29:47 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1992Oct12.192721.8511@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.174330.2484@news2.cis.umn.edu>  
>donnell@orca.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>>
>> I have to agree with Gunnar here. Substandard Special Effects? What, not
>> enough blinky-blinky lights and bells?
>
>He probably means not enough morphing.
>Sigh.

Nah, he probably just means it was a boring film, badly executed.

Does the above classify as 'flame bait'? :-)
-- 
    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz  or  thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz
Datamark Intl Ltd |
 Technical Writer | I don't need a disclaimer, I live in a sane society.
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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Rocky Horror!!
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:46:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.044436.27266@leland.Stanford.EDU> shiva@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chet Pager) writes:
>This has GOT to be your most frequently asked questions.  I'm sorry if
>it violates some fundimental FAQ rule; I can't read news.  What I would
>love to have, though, is the *definitive* Rocky Horror Picture Show
>viewer participation script--what we-all yell (throw, do, etc) in the
>audience.  If anyone has this, please **EMAIL** it to shiva@leland.stanford.edu
>(if you post it I'll never see it).
>thanks.
>

I dunno.  Part of the whole fun of Rocky for me was figuring out the lines
and inventing my own, not studying for them in advance.  There is no such
thing as an audience participation script that is both definitive *and*
universal.  Every area of the country has their own favorite lines.  If
you need some sort of script in advance telling you what to yell and what
to throw then maybe you should just stay home . . . 

		-- Stewart "up on the wrong side of bed" Tame

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Disclaimer:  Not only do my opinions represent those of Eastern Michigan
University, but also those of Dan Quayle, Richard Nixon, Frank Zappa,
Pee-wee Herman, Bart Simpson, Tipper Gore, Murphy Brown, Maggie Thatcher,
and the Easter Bunny.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Reply-To: eprice@sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:24:06 GMT

epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes (among other things):
 The Brain That Wouldn't Die worked for me.

donnell@sponge.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes (among other things):
 The Brain That Wouldn't Die was a mainstay of the LA TV stations of
 my childhood. I rented it a few years ago, and finally got to see it
 uncut, though I swear a good chunk of the sickest stuff I had
 already seen. 

Hey, cool!  The Brain That Wouldn't Die scared the hell out of me,
when I was very young and an enthusiastic viewer of "Creature Double
Features" on TV here in Boston (surely this existed elsewhere too?)
When that thing in the closet ripped the guys arm off, that really
freaked me out I think...

But the thing that scared me the most when I was very young (5 or so?)
was something that was on after Flash Gordon which I had stayed up
late to watch (like 11 or maybe even 1am?) and no-one else was awake
in the house, and then this hideous monster was on the screen...  I
still have no idea what that could have been, but I still kind of
remember it -- I was terrified!!

Also, I remember some Doctor Who episode with this scary skull and
scenes of people being chased through the forest...

Ciao,

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sybase.com (not wildman@...)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal and Akira
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:29:23 GMT

In article 0127@VM1.MCGILL.CA, BFA0@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (BFA0) writes:
> Does anyone know where I can find an original copy of Heavy Metal
> or Akira. Actually, anything of this genre would be of some help.
> 
> -Help


sure Akira jus t came out on video .. heavy metal however waas never released to the public .. u have to get a bootleg .. either at a convention or from a friend who taped it off cable .... lotsa a luck... i wil be getting akira from a friend next week... 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: st902282@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Kern
Reply-To: st902282@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:24:02 GMT

I agree.  Kern is incredible.  I haven't seen volume 2. but I've seen a lot
of the stuff before on their individual tapes.  Absolute must-sees.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: driskill%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hank Driskill, GSH3D)
Subject: Seeking European Highlander...
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:05:35 MDT
Keywords: Highlander, VHS, European
Organization: Grad Student From Hell (in 3D)
Distribution: alt

I very much want to get ahold of a VHS version of the European Highlander
(with the WWII scenes and others).  This is a call for assistance: anyone who
knows how to get ahold of this and an approximate cost is encouraged (please!)
to send me e-mail...

Thanks in advance,
Hank.

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@morayeel.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: space cowboy movies
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:41:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.165004.17819@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>
>Battle Beyond The Stars was a sci fi version of The Magnificent Seven
>(itself a Western of Kurasawa's The Seven Samurai), just as Outland was a
>sci fi version of High Noon. Battlestar Galactica, with Lorne Greene,
>was done as 'Bonanza in space'.

NOt to mention one of the worst films ever made by Hammer, "Moon Zero Two".
Probably the worst of the space westerns. Just keep reminding yourself
that it came out right after "2001".

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: phlegm@camelot.bradley.edu (Kevin Bourrillion)
Subject: Re: What can you do at a Rocky Horror Picture Show showing?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:19:35 GMT

Usually I don't bother posting all of my lines, but this one is just
too good to let go...

>          Then at a deadly pace
>          It Came From {"where?"} Outer Space.{"Thank you!"}
           He came on........      Janet's face.

>Chorus:     Science fiction, {"ooh ooh ooh"} double feature {"la la la"}
             Sexual friction...

I'm surprised there is no alt.rhps for stuff like this... even WWIVnet
has one!
--
           Whether you spit or swallow, the Phlegm disappears!!
phlegm@camelot.bradley.edu  kbourr@heartland.bradley.edu  WWIVnet: 17@4951
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Confucius say: Boy who go to bed with sex problem, wake up with solution
in hand.
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From: wbg@mtek.com (W. Brewster Gillett)
Subject: Re: Movie from the 70's
Reply-To: brew@mtek.com
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 20:42:07 GMT
Keywords: Allegro non Tropo?

jimmc@commando.navo.navy.mil (Jim McDyer) writes:


>-- 
>Way back in late 70's I went to see the Rocky Horror Picture Show, but
>it was sold out! (really)
>Another midnite movie was playing next door so we went to see that instead.
>The title was "Allegro non Tropo"(sp?) and was Italian. It was a combination
>of animation shorts interspersed with some real people cuts. It was not

>Jim

You musta really been overdoing the recreational chemicals that night if you
didn't get that "Allegro Non Troppo" was a very deliberate (and _brilliant_)
parody of Disney's "Fantasia". It is an absolute must-see for all "Fantasia"
fans, but, tragically, many "Fantasia" fans don't even seem to know of its
existence. I have a dream; collecting both "Fantasia" and "A.N.T." on
laserdisc in full (remixed in the case of "Fantasia") stereo versions. Of
course it would also be nice if we'd get around to ultra-HDTV (>2k lines)
sometime soon, but some fantasies just aren't realizable in our lifetimes.

"TAXATION HAS _ALWAYS_ BEEN THEFT!"

-- 
_________________________________________________________________
brew@mtek.com
MTEK International, Inc.             Throughput Technology Corp.
Walk the talk.
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:06:35 GMT
Distribution: alt.cult-movies, rec.arts.movies
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Oct6.112130.59466@cc.usu.edu> slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.151521.18958@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
>donnell@polyp.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>> It was Kanga and Roo who were suspected of being replicants.
>> And Piglet who actually was!     
>
>     But Piglet isn't very good at anything, not even Poohsticks.  It
>makes no sense for a replicant stuffed animal to be worse at
>everything than the real stuffed animals.

But don't forget the line 'We can't all be very small animals'.  Makes you
wonder, doesn't it!


-- 
*********************************************
*    bob church                             *
*    bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@sponge.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:42:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.022740.902@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.164258.11033@coli.uni-sb.de>, mafu@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Markus Fuenfrocken) writes:
>
>The Brain That Wouldn't Die worked for me.  Also Homicidal.  All I
>remember was the opening wedding scene, but that's enough!  (The best
>wedding ever filmed - better even than The Graduate)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca

The Brain That Wouldn't Die was a mainstay of the LA TV stations of
my childhood. I rented it a few years ago, and finally got to see it
uncut, though I swear a good chunk of the sickest stuff I had
already seen. 

Homicidal is great! Let's canonize William Castle and give him a posthumous 
Oscar! Watched "Dr. Sardonicus" about a month ago for the first time,
and I thought it was wonderful! Great stuff!

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: jmp2020@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: viddy again of ORANGE
Reply-To: jmp2020@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:16:20 GMT

I'm really interested to talk about this film but I don't know what to
start...this movie took my words outta my mouth. Ok, I'll start with
Alex's types of clothes...sometimes I think about myself to wear it
during All Hallo's Eve, Halloween that is. Hmm, I knew that his droogs
are almost similiar to each other but it's not. I have white plain
long-sleeved shirt and pants with suspenders buttons but only thing
that I couldn't find is the phallic-looking codpiece. Is that the
boxing protection or isn't it for the hockey goalie to wear? That's
the only main thing I need yo complete my collection so I'll kick
some ass and some other ultra-violence to do on Halloween. I don't 
need some maskies...just an eyelash will be fine.

Also there is one thing I desire the most...remember the scene when
Alex goes home after the ultra-violence and the agrument between
Dim and himself "Best we go homeways and go bedways and get some spitkca"
So when he arrived home, he took a piss then later to his bedroom. You
see that Alex's bed looked cool...I want those pyramid shaped blankets.
Well if there's anyone say something, reply me.

Joe.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: kh@sei.cmu.edu (Kurt Haverstock)
Subject: Re: The worst movie of all tim
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:49:30 GMT

In article Re: The worst movie of all tim of Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:00:00 +0000 Thorsten_Kitz@mk.maus.de (Thorsten Kitz) writes:

>Hey there,
>
>in my opinion, the absolut worst movie ever seen is "Top Gun". In Germany it
>was rated as PG-12 (the same as PG-13, but from 12 years on) and it is
>very violently, even more than a stupid horror film.

It's no excuse, I know, but I've seen Tom & Jerry Cartoons that were
more violent than Top Gun.

>If I can remember the
>film correct (I am not sure, cause I was very shocked when I have seen it),
>first they shoot some Russians into the nirwana, make a big party, than
>someone from the Americans was shot and the Russians were the "Bad, bad
>boys".

That's a pretty loose interpretation of the plot line...I think you should
watch it again...maybe twice.

>I think, movies like this one, are very dangerous for children, because, they
>get a wrong view of the real world. I would rate the film R, if I would have
>the decisions, even better, put the movie into the rubbish container.
>
The PG13 rating requires children under thirteen to be accompanied by a
parent...supposedly so the parent can explain the confusing parts.
If you're thirteen and haven't yet pretended to shoot enemy planes out of 
the sky, blasted plastic soldiers with BB guns or at least seen some of the
real thing on the evening news, then you've led a sheltered life.

Excellent aerial cinematography...not at all unlike real-life in 
the DoD lane.

>Bye for now,
>
>Thorsten.

Kurt
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Circuitry Man & Biggles
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:38:22 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I did rent Circuitry Man. It was entertaining and sufficiently off-beat
to hold my attention. Some great ideas and good production values inspite
of the obviously low budget production. Plughead made for an excellent
villan. The love story was predictable. It was better than that dog of
a movie, Cherry 2000 !
From: ffhoust@eos.ncsu.edu (FORREST FRANCI HOUSTON)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal and Akira
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:56:51 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Oct13.181730.20181@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
|> In article <07OCT92.18969812.0127@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, BFA0@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (BFA0) writes:
|> |> Does anyone know where I can find an original copy of Heavy Metal
|> |> or Akira. Actually, anything of this genre would be of some help.
|> |> 
|> |> -Help
|> 
|> Heavy Metal has never been released on video. It has been shown on Pay TV -
|> someone may have a copy. Akira is readily available in Ottawa. Videoshoppers
|> World (613-722-6815) in Ottawa has it for $25 (or was it $20).

How about either of these for the big screen.  I'm a member of the committee
that picks the movies here at NCSU and we were thinking about showing one or
the other (or both :-) ) of there movies next semester.  They're to be part
of our death and destruction series.  Anyways, I believe we have a lead on
getting HM, but we have no clue about Akira.  If any one out there knows
please e-mail me with an address or phone number or something.

Later!
Forrest
ffhoust@eos.ncsu.edu
From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: <None>
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:23:14 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Oct12.224106.23971@reed.edu>, cramsay@nextweek.Reed.Edu (Celeste Ramsay) writes:
> David O. Dodge writes
>> In article <1992Oct8.170920.1440@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>> >What has Ridley Scott done after 1982?
>> 
>> Here's a full list of his feature films (he's made a very large number of
>> television commercials as well):
>> 
>>>>>>The Duellists<<<<<<
>>    Alien
>>    Blade Runner
>>    Legend
>>    Someone to Watch over Me
>>    Black Rain
>>    Thelma and Louise
>>    1492: Conquest of Paradise
> 
> I saw _The Duellists_ a little while ago and thought it was quite possibly Ridley's
> most gorgeous film.  Every frame of the film was perfectly composed and many were 
> very nice visual references to classic paintings.  I felt myself very lucky to have 
> had the use of a projection screen television so that I could really apreciate the 
> subtle beauty of the movie without having to depend on the dubious tastes of the 
> local art cinemas.  I know it's really hard to find on video, but has anyone else 
> seen this?  Why is it that the only people who remeber it are _serious_ Ridley fans
> or movie critics.  Did it flop in the theatres?  I would say it is the best feature 
> film by a first time director that I have ever seen.
> 
> Celeste


Have you never seen "Citizen Kane"?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What about Olivier's
"Henry V" or Laughton's "Night of the Hunter" or Huston's "The Maltese Falcon"?
And these are just the tip of the iceberg...

Richard.

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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Valley Girl/Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls & Shatner/Nimoy...on CD?!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:56:58 GMT

In article <farant.1ua2@terapin.com> farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason) writes:
>How many folks out there have actually seen Beyond The Valley of The Dolls ??

I have! I have!

>This is the one Roger Ebert wrote and Russ Myers biggest budgeted film.
>It's great.
 ^^^^^^^^^^

Definitely!

>To bad fox wont release it on tape. It's pretty ridiculous. IT just got
>rated NC-17(from X). However Basic Instinct featured more nudity and violence.
>Maybe Roger Ebert is just embarrased and paid Fox not release it.

Actually I think the situation is that Meyer and Ebert WANT Fox to release
it, but Fox refuses. When Fox was asked whether or not they'd let
Voyager/Criterion do a special LD version of it, they said no.

>If you can find a copy(it was released on tape a long time ago)
>rent it or buy it.

The only problem with the existing tape is that it isn't letterboxed.
BTVOTD is an anamorphic film, so you lose about 40% of the picture. It's
been out of print a long time, and it's not an easy tape to find.

                                          -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time,
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:03:45 GMT

gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:

>I'll tell ya: Any Woody Allen movie is the absolute worst movie of all time.
>I'd wish that guy'd get a grip. Mr. Allen and his jewish family have been 
>sitting round a dinner table, talking shit for 20 years.
>Hell, they're eating all the time in his movies.

Might I suggest you try one of the following...

"Bananas"
"Take the Money and Run"
"Sleeper"
"Love and Death"
"Play it Again Sam"
"Everything you ever wanted to know about saex (but were afraid to ask)"

or if you REALLY want your opinion of Woody Allen changed for the better...

"Zelig"

You will find good jokes, strong plots and great acting.

George

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