HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  500  Years of Genocide/AIM
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:32:45 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Oct15.163853.8506@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>diatribe when you realize that every non-Christian in Europe was
>either killed or converted before they came to American to continue

	Ahem.  Do you really think that's true?


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: Why The System STINKS
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:23:03 GMT


	In an attempt to join the recent political discussion here and further
enrage those who feel this forum is strictly for the discussion of one musical
entity (how boring), let me say what I feel to be one of the biggest problems
with our current political system: NOBODY VOTES!  Politicians have run 
roughshod over us as a result of not a shred of fear of voter reprisal.  The
statistics on voting are alarming to say the least.  The majority of voters 
are in the upper-middle, wealthy, and ultra-wealthy class.  I am convinced
that if  large groups of voters were organized in a manner which could
instill some fear into the political slime, we would be better served.
Clowns like Ted Keddedy, Al Damotto, and Al Gore would've been run out of
town ages ago.

	Electoral Revolution!
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: More Glambert-like metaphors
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:11:02 GMT

In article <3895@unisql.UUCP>,
wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.160120.15717@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
>andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:
>>say, toy soldiers, the "truck kids" try to run him out.
>
>        Yeah, right, we're all just a bunch of
>babies playing with toys.
>None of this costs money or takes _time_ or
>_resources_ so there shouldn't
>be any _consideration_ or *rules* or anything.
>
>        There's a reason for newsgroups.  Part of that
>reason is to keep
>the volume down to some manageable level, both so that
>you can read a
>group and not have to filter through megabytes of crap,
>and so that poor
>news admins like myself don't have to
>devote a whole goddam fujitsu to your
>toy soldiers.
>
>        You wanna play with soldiers, go form a toy
>soldier newsgroup.  We're
>playing with trucks.

hey, i musta gotten on the wrong one, i thought this was about a BUS

lara

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jknowles@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jonathan C. Knowles)
Subject: looking for tapes
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:01:01 GMT
From: wilson@mml.ncsl.nist.gov (Ron &)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Personal to Joe Dudas
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:53:09 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Joe, I have been trying to email you at dudasj@rpi.edu and it keeps 
getting returned.  It keeps telling me USER UNKNOWN.  Do I have the 
right address?  This is in reference to the tape tree.

I'm wilson@mml.ncsl.nist.gov.

Thanx,

Ron Wilson
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From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: Special THANKS to David Gans!
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:53:57 GMT


	Thanks, David, for the recent GDH with the "Playing In The Band" from
Winterland, '74.  I've listened to very little from that "era", but everytime
I do, I'm FLOORED!  I was driving along and had to pull off the road so I
could give the music my undivided attention.  Thanks again for such a wonderful 
thing!  
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: The Dead's aliases
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:33:44 GMT


	These are some of the names I've heard that the Dead use when signing
into hotels:   Bob: Chuck E. Cheese
               Lesh:  Les Philling
               Vince: I.B. Smokin
               Biily: Dick Johnson
               Hart:  M.R. Spock
	       Garcia: August West

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re: Good Road footnote
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:14:12 GMT

|Many
|other speakers during the Good Road program invoked Bill Graham's
|memory.

Christ!  You'd think the guy was a fucking saint or something!
(ho, boy, i'll get flamed for that!)

thank God there were some good performers there like Todd Rundgren
otherwise i would have vomited and left earlier.  is anyone else
as sick of this revisionist bullshit as me?  i refuse to feel
guilty over something that happened 500 years ago.  All cultures
die sooner or later.  Should we feel guilty that the Persians
overran the Babylonieans too?  I guess if the White Supremeists
can re-write history then the Indigenous People can re-write it too.

did anyone else catch the humor of Todd stealing Don Henley's set?

Steve-TOO

"what's goin' on?..."



Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: More Glambert-like metaphors
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:01:20 GMT


	Perhaps The Net could be described (metaphoricaly, right George?)
as a group of kids in a nursery who'll only play with one kind of toy, say,
trucks.  When another kid is introduces into the nursery who plays with,
say, toy soldiers, the "truck kids" try to run him out.  

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: dudasj@vccsouth20.its.rpi.edu (Joel Schostok Dudas)
Subject: We now know who will be our next president...aka Greek poll #1
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usnet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:15:50 GMT

Okay, folks, at the urging of people interested in
hearing the results of the optional Greek '84 poll, and with no objections coming from anyone, I am slowly compiling the results.

To question #1, the question of 
"Who will you vote for in November",
some pretty interesting numbers, I think....

out of 90 people who responded to this particular
question....

Bill Clinton/Al Gore    67 votes     74.4%
Undecided/not voting    13 votes     14.4%
Andre Marrou/Lord (Libertarian) 5 votes  5.6%
Frank Zappa             1 vote       1.1%
Gore Vidal              1 vote       1.1%
Clinton OR the following
Garcia/Lesh             1 vote       1.1%
Wavy Gravy              1 vote       1.1%
Ralph Nader             1 vote       1.1%

Bush/Quayle             0 votes      0% *
Perot/Stockdale         0 votes      o%

*- one person who was voting Clinton said
he might vote Bush/Quayle

I do not work or feel it worth my while
to orient myself to any party

No one "stuffed" the ballot box

Interesting comments...
"Read my lips, I will not vote for Bush"
"Clinton-no question"
"God only knows all 3 suck.  If these are
the best candidates, what in hell did we
turn away."
"whoever has the least chance of winning"
"I'm voting for Gore...Clinton's just along
for the ride."
"Someone else"
"it's about time we got a Baby Boomer in the 
White House....maybe next time we'll get one
that inhales."
"My conscience won't let me vote for anyone
but Clinton"
"not Bush and not Perot...doesn't leave much
of a choice"
"sigh"
"Clinton(he'll be great-trust me)"
"How could anyone vote for Bush?"
"definately not Ross Perot"
"not Jesse"

I can conclude a few things....
1) either Republicans do not feel
strongly about their candidate, or
there are no Deadheads on their side."
2) I attribute the absence of a
vote for Weir (only Garcia/Lesh) as
being a unique quality to Greek tree 
people.  The appearance of the song
"Women Are Smarter" has obviously turned
off the male chauvinist vote :-)
3) George Bush had better be thankful
that the whole country is not made up of
Deadheads.
4) I am surprised more people didn't
vote Zappa.

There you have it....

look for the next Greek tree optional poll
result, coming to an internet screen near you

"DO YOU LIKE PHISH"

Joe D.
dudasj@rpi.edu
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Nudity (reminiscences)
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:12:18 GMT
Organization: The Internet

In article <1992Oct8.195159.5513@etnibsd.uucp> vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris) writes:
[about the 2-14-70 Fillmore show]

Wow, another great story!  And you read it in rec.music.gdead ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Dan Noonen <noonen@brutus.aa.ab.com>
Subject: Re: Oh what the hell
Reply-To: noonen@brutus.aa.ab.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:35:07 GMT


tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (eagle) writes:

|How 'bout best post Brentski Scarlet>Fire?

my vote goes to 9/4/91 Richfield. we got a 
nice wave from jerry following that mind 
melter !

dan
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From: HF.PEC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Doug Peckler)
Subject: Good Road footnote
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:06:52 GMT

one of the gentlemen from Bill Graham Presents mentioned that the
San Francisco Civic Auditorium has been renamed by the municipal
government as Bill Graham Audiorium.   quite a nice honor.  i
haven't seen a Dead show there since NYE several years back.  Many
other speakers during the Good Road program invoked Bill Graham's
memory.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: CIS110427@axe.humboldt.edu
Subject: JERRY GARCIA
Reply-To: CIS110427@axe.humboldt.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:46:26 GMT

Y?COULD YOU PLEASE WRITE BACK.
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  Digtal Compact Cassette
Date: 15 Oct 1992 14:27:29 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Oct14.185556.1818@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>
>|With the price of DAT machines about as low as DCC, I would recommend the
>|DAT most certainly.  On the other hand, I think it will be possible to make
>|very small DCC machines in the future, probably smaller than the DAT units.
>
>I don't know it that will be physically possible given that a DAT tape
>is smaller than a DCC tape.  My Sony TCD-3 portable DAT is already the
>same size as a non-recording quality cassette walkman.

The problem is that the DAT machines require the tape to be wrapped around
a head drum, like a VTR.  This drum and associated mechanism takes up a 
good deal of space behind the tape.  In addition, the motor to turn the 
head has to go somewhere (on the TCD-3 it's a pancake motor mounted below
the drum, which is why the machine is much thicker than a cassette walkman).
With the DCC gear, this wouldn't be the case.  The DCC can use the same
transport as a cassette deck, and it can even use a much cheaper transport
(if such a thing can be imagined) because the tape speed doesn't have to be
terribly constant (any physical speed variations can be compensated for by 
the digital buffering quite easily).
--scott
From: pmc@world.std.com (Patrick M Chase)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: DAT boards?
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:50:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

I'm interested in going DAT and am trying to get an idea of what's 
available in digital boards. I'm not talking about cassette masters and 1st 
gen DAT, but I would like to know what's out there that's 0 gen digital 
board (DAT master) and what's available as 1st gen DAT from reels.

Could someone mail me a list or two of what's circulating? I'd appreciate 
it. Detailed information on source would be helpful as well...
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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Dead Sighting for computer weenies
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:38:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep21.205304.16451@cci632.cci.com> srw@cci632.cci.com (Steve Windsor) writes:
>  i'm looking at an Oracle V7 Sql Language reference manual, p 4-21,
>  and there's a quote -
>
>   SELECT NLS_LOWER('Run for the roses') "Lowercase" FROM DUAL

I was recently looking for a particular new font for our Mac and was looking
at a Bitstream font package.  On the back, the example for Hobo font said
(half covered by another example, but it was obvious):

	Presenting

	The
	Grateful
	Dead

[etc., etc.]

I almost bought the package on principle, but the type of font I was looking
for (for a Christmas flyer) didn't look as good as Linotext, so I ended up
getting the Adobe package (which also included Hobo) instead.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Today is National Existential Ennui Awareness Day.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Joel Schostok Dudas <dudasj@rpi.edu>
Subject: Greek '84 tree
Reply-To: dudasj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:44:03 GMT


Hey One and All!
   The 7-13-84 Greek Theatre tree is now
closed.  The person in charge of the RPI mailing system
has recently put out a letter saying that they were making
changes to the mailing system here, and he doesn't know 
if some mail was lost, but some might have been.  I will
be posting the tree within the next 2 days (hopefully).
If your name is not on the tree, and you tried to get in touch with
me, please let me know by e-mail (supposedly it works right now), 
or over the net as a last resort.  
As of yet, I have heard no one complain about my posting
the poll results, and some of you have said you
would like to see what I came up with, so when I post the
tree, I'll put that up as well.
For those of you who said they did not know how
to be on a tree or what to do, don't worry.  It is easy
and I will post instructions when I post the tree.
Until then, I leave you all waiting while I sift
through the papers!!!
Later
Joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: eps!uunet (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: From the Vault
Reply-To: steve@eps.com
Organization: EPS
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:28:08 GMT

Does anyone know when there might be a "3 From the Vault" from the dead??

I have the first two not bad.. How about 3 From the Vault being from the 1978  
UCSB show!!

One of my favorites..
From: epenzer@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Spin Doctors tapes
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:06:07 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Originator: epenzer@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu

Hi All!

Well, the Subject says it all-almost.  I have lotsa Spins/Traveler tapes to
trade if anyone else has some great Spins tapes also.

If you're interested, send me a list.

Peace, Eric.
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From: mcd3temp <mcd3temp@bethesda.bah.pc.niaid.nih.gov>
Subject: dead dream
Reply-To: mcd3temp@bethesda.bah.pc.niaid.nih.gov
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:57:37 GMT

A couple nights ago I dreamt that I was at the first show taking 
place since the "hiatus".  It was at a large staduim/ampitheater 
thinggy which had a hotel connected to it.  I don't recall what 
was played during the first set, but I remember meeting Jerry in 
the hotel during the set break.  He looked like his old picture 
from his first album.  We talked about some stuff and then he 
went back out for the second set.  They opened the second set 
with Dark Star Jam->Money, Money.  Very strange..

Josh
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Subject: Re: Jamaica show ?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:24:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.200242.25264@sunspot.noao.edu> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.123534.12144@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com> gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct8.053058.723@icecube.pinedale.wy.us> John Perry Barlow <barlow@icecube.pinedale.wy.us> writes:
>So? Was it the real JPB or a crafty forger? 'e' seemed to think it
>real.
>Who is 'e', really????????????????????????
  e's the long haired dude in the tie-dye will wool in his fly :-)
Actually I'm desperately trying to conserve bandwidth for folks with
archaic equipment that Tom Livingston hasn't reached yet...

                    e-e-e ;-)
From: klp@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kevin Prigge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Tour dates, confirmed and RUMOURED
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:45:04 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

>December 2,3 	McNichols Arena, Denver CO
> or 8,9,10
> or 15,16,17

You might as well kill the 15,16,17 rumor, because the Nuggets get killed at
home by the Trailblazers on the 16th. I had thought that earlier you had
posted the rumor as 13,14,15 which would be a better set of dates anyhow...
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Catching up on some subjects....
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:06:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct12.172632.25904@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, silo386!jay@kira.emba.
uvm.edu (Jay King) writes:
>Greetings from psych-o-delic Vermont just past the peak of foliage season....
>
>I want to catch up on some threads.....
>
>- Nudity at shows:  Does anyone remember a Worcester show from somewhere 'tween
>  83 and 85 when at the break there was a huge roar and lo and behold a young
>  lass was standing on a chair near the soundboard putting on a striptease act?
>  I was way up front on the floor and couldn't see what was causing the
>  commotion but was filled in later by some taping buddies.  Also, I remember
>  coming out of an early 80's spring Hartford show and walking down the street
>  and seeing a young guy sitting on the curb stark naked.
>
Nope, but I do remember the exact scenario in the same time frame at MSG;
Hmmm, an audience plant?!  ;-)
peace,
laura
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From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Sampson, et al
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:45:17 GMT

Idaho Andee writes:

|I was just dropping off a note when I realized I had not read any comments 
|about T-Bone Burnett's latest.  He does have one song with the familiar 
|refrain, "If I had my way, if I had my way.  If I had my way, I'd tear this 
|old building down."  Very different.  Syncopated like the Not Fade away ending.

Yeah, he played that song a couple of weeks ago when I saw him open a Rock the
Vote benefit (only played 4 songs, though) that also included Toad the Wet
Sprocket and 10,000 Maniacs. Sounded very familiar...

-Jeff Lester
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Tour dates, confirmed and RUMOURED
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:04:53 GMT

Jeff Lester just mentioned there probably would be some new hotline
stuff soon, as we can all assume ... keep dialing.

last evening i listened, it was dated yesterday, and there were two
bits of information (shortest tape i remember):

there will be a costume contest during intermission at HALL and the
first place winner gets $500.

there is a poety reading, i didn't write down all the information,
but robert hunter, ray manzarek among many others (and of course the
standards "surprise guests") will be reading, and there will
concurrently be a showing of lawrence ferlinghetti's paintings, i
believe they said the liberty series.  this is at the palace of fine
arts, tonight, and i think they said 7:00; confirm this yerself on
the hotline, tho' before heading out :)

lara
--<-@
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Various
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:35:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.3960
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Oct13.210143.16019@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> bgittel@pica.army.mil writes:
>Last night (before
>Motorhead-I know-I'm a bad deadhead for watching this) 

No, you're a *good* Deadhead for watching this.  Variety is a Good Thing(tm);
single-mindedness is to be avoided.  boyeeeeeeeeee.

-- 
Ray Shea                       Practice random cruelty 
UniSQL, Inc.                   and senseless acts of violence.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650	
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: cjmcdona@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Crispin J. Mcdonald)
Subject: Re: Noteworthy 800 number?
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:55:46 EDT

>	Can someone in the know please pass on the number for Noteworthy. 
>That's the CD ordering place up in Vermont I believe that has pretty good
>deals.  I once had, now I don't.  So if you know, could you please email me the
>info.  Thanks,
>	      -Pete

I've never ordered from Noteworthy but I just borrowed 
the Winter 92 cataloug
from my brother and it looks like a pretty good deal.
The ph# is 1-800-648-7972.  Just browsing through...
there are about 25 GD titles listed (not bad).  There is also
some info on an online ordering system that should have
been up and running FEB 92 ($5 disc required).

Hope this is helpful to Pete and any one else, it is my very
first post ever!

Crispin :-) )
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Pizza Music (no ODC)
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:55:56 GMT

Sorry, no Dead content, but I had to tell _somebody_

What are they doing to our children?

I took my four-year-old son to "Chimpy's Pizza Safari", which is one of these
clones of Showbiz Pizza/Chuckee Cheese/etc, with the animatronics animals,
videogames and mediocre 'za.

Anyway, there was a panel where you could select the songs for the 'band' to
play, and it included "I Can't Dance" by Genesis, "I Shot the Sherriff" (don't
know whose, but I'll guess Clapton), and best of all, Red Hot Chilli Peppers'
"Under the Bridge". 

This is great!!! They're teaching our youth to like the weird!
Sure it wasn't GivitawayGivitawayGivitawayGivitawaynow, but it's a step in the
right direction!

By the way, the machines were animated to the music, UtB was mostly a solo by
this tall skinny white bear with a guitar... (no, I'm not on drugs, officer!)

Joel
-- 
jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
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From: a9812@moncol.monmouth.edu (MICHAEL ANGEL)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dead MTV Sighting
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:47:25 GMT
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, N.J.  07764

Hey !! Are there any gifs already out there in Net.Land?
Please don't flame me.  I've only read about 50 or so articles
and haven't found an FAQ yet!