From: csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Enough is Enough (was Re: Top Five Movies of All Time)
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:25:05 GMT
Reply-To: csroc@dime.UUCP (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <kaxiras.724462968@cs.wisc.edu> kaxiras@falcons.cs.wisc.edu (Stefanos Kaxiras) writes:
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>I agree with Pentti. Americans are very ignorant regarding
>foreign cinema. Most masterpieces do not come from USA.
>You people have no idea of Italian cinema, German cinema
>(epsecially the very early one - silent ), Jpanese, Russian
>( two of my favorite movies -SciFi mind you- come from Russia ),
>and what have you.



Well....excuuuuuuuusssssse me!
You claim Americans are very ignorant regarding Italian cinema,
Gee.. does a week go by without mention of Cinema Paradesio,
and Fellini and MM(astrioni)etc.

You Claim Americans are very ignorant regarding German cinema,
Gee.. does a week go by without mention of Das Boot.

French films play in all major American cities(and I imagine
some not so major ones.

Indian films, especially by the figure who recently passed away,
Singat Ray(pls excuse my spelling)

Haven't you noticed that Kurowasa((sp)) and Bergman are
idolized as GODS of cinema in America.

Australian films, Canadian films, English films, etc. can be
seen all over America.  ten years ago when I was on business
in Houston, I watched a Dutch film in Greenway Plaza.

Actors and Actresses from all over the world are stars in America
examples...Mel Gibson, Sophia Loren, David Niven, Brigette Bardot,
Gerauld depardiu(in fact, this news group fights not only over the
spelling but the pronunciation of his name!), Topol, Marlena Detrich,etc etc etc.

It is you who are ignorant of Americans(IMHO), not the Americans
ignorant of foreign cinema.


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>Enough is enough.
>Do not use the term 'top five movies of all time'. There
>is no such thing. 
I agree there is no such thing as THE top five movies of ALL time.
This changes from person to person and year to year and by the
memory(which changes over time) of the person. One can only pick
ones favorite movies. I cannot say what everyones favorite movies are,
only an individual opinion on such a matter is meaningful. You have
your favorites based on your mind and interpretation and memories
of the movie.  You are influenced by different things at different
times and will change your opinion of a movie as time goes by.

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>Say '*MY* five most favorite movies'.
>And don't have any illusion that *you* judge art work.
>You only talk about how much entertainment you've got out
>of the money you paid for the ticket.

Ah...but one always judges art work!
We value (in general) a Van Gogh over something painted by Louis
down the street.  This is not illusion, it is reality and human nature!
Some of us pick our favorite movies because of the entertainment
value we receive from that experience; others pick their favorite
movies by the "ART" content in it(or what they perceive or judge
to be the "art" content.  Some enjoy an Alfred Hitchcock movie because
they are entertained; others see the craft of the director. Some 
love Casablanca for its timeless, selfless love story, others love
Bogie and Bergman, some like it for the ideals, others hate it for the same
reason. We are always judgemental or we miss out on much of lifes experience.
Some Americans love the movie "The Magnificent Seven", they are happy
with the entertainment that comes from viewing it; other Americans are
horrified that these people do not rightfully recognize, "The Seven Samurai"
as the original masterpiece and hate "The Magnificent Seven" because
it is only a ripoff of a masters work.

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