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From: skip@cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:50:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov9.195020.26930
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1992Nov9.120425.6245@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.134303.6859@city.cs>, lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov8.220520.6234@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>>	I used to have an Amiga and when I went to a PC I vowed to
>>>make sure it did mroe than my Amiga did and it does.  My PC blows
>>>away any Amiga I have ever seen in terms of graphics, sound, animation
>>>and multitasking.  Hence, OS/2, 16 megs of memory, 24 bit coprocessed
>>>graphics, an Sound Blaster Pro.
>>>	By the way, never had a problem with it since I bought it (2 years
>>>ago).
>> 
>> As a matter of interest, could you please tell me how much you
>> paid for this PC?
>> 
>	Sure, it cost just over $2400.  It costs more than an Amiga 500 no
>doubt but that is irrelevant.  The Amiga costs more than the c-64 but
>that doesn't make the c-64 better.  Of course, it would likely cost
>more to get a similarly equipped Amiga.  

Your system sounds okay, but the one I use for development at work blows
it away: 486-50DX, 16M RAM, SoundBlaster Pro, Ethernet Board, ET4000 SVGA
board with 24bit DAC, 1280x1024 max res, up to 65k colors in 800x600 and
24bit truecolor in 640x480, 2 245M 12.5ms drives, plus an assortment of
software that we actually paid for.  The price for everthing is now over
$4000 and it is nice as far as Clones go, but I wouldn't want one for my
personal machine.

Hell, my A3000 does everything as well or better than the Clone does except
for raw CPU power and color depth.  I am expecting an A4000 in the next day
or so and have little doubt that it will blow any Clone away.  Stay tuned
for a post of benchmarks and general impressions of the two.  Am I biased?
Maybe, but I spend as much or more time using the Clone and feel that I am
as qualified as anyone to compare the two.

>>>						-Brad
>> 
>> Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
>> Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889

Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
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From: mjackson@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Mark Jackson)
Subject: Re: MorphPlus Used On Quantum Leap
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:49:25 GMT

In article <69311@cup.portal.com> pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz) writes:
>
>The episode of Quantum Leap, which aired last night (November 10)
>contained morph effects created using ASDG's MorphPlus and transferred
>back to digital video using ASDG's Abekas driver.
>
>I'm sure you all will share in our pride of seeing the Amiga used in
>this high profile way.

I've no idea how many episodes we are behind, here in the UK. Any chance of 
someone telling me the story line behind this episode, so that I can look out
for it, if and when it arrives over here !?!

Thanks in advance

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: redman@mdd.comm.mot.com (Brian Redman)
Subject: Re: Calling all lurkers!
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:00:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.015637.7309@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>It has come to my attention that there are several persons who are reading
>this group on a regular basis, but who are not posting.  Several of these
>folks have sent me email regarding one subject or another, but most have
>never posted to .advocacy.  Why not?
>
>Skip Sauls
>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>
>
OK, you asked, and I WAS one of those people, so I'll answer:
quite simply, the first time that message came up asking me if
I wanted to risk making a fool of myself to most of the civilized
world, at tremendous expense to all, I got spooked and changed
my mind. (ya, ya, I can hear the sniggering from here) Now that
I've had to swallow this tripe for a couple of years, I've come
to two conclusions: 1. This is not the civilized world, and   
		    2. Nothing I could possibly dream up to say
		    could make me look more foolish than 75% of
		    posts that appear here. 
Frankly, I don't know how some of you find the time to work/study
or whatever and still post the volume of stuff that you do. I can
go away for 24 hours and have to delete 8 or 10 Dan Stephenson
posts, (come to think of it, where's Jerry Shekhel these days? No,
wait...I didn't mean it.. I DON'T WANT to KNOW!!) The point is that
most of us with real-life time constraints can barely get through
reading this one news group without finding time to post as well.

In fact, having written this, I'm sorry I didn't just e-mail to you!




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From: lodi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (fabrizio lodi)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM! -- NOT!!
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:47:15 GMT

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:

>In article <69117@cup.portal.com> Bolt@cup.portal.com (Eric J Rainbolt) writes:
>>Dear Fellow Amigan,
>>
>>I heard some frightful news from a friend of mine:
>>
>>heidi@zeus.c-engr2.siu.edu
>>
>>Over the weekend, she placed an order for an IBM clone.  Yuck!!!!!
>>Aaaaaaaaaargggggg.   Puke!!!!!!!!  Barf City!!!!!!!
>>(Do you know what I mean).
>>
>>She doesn't know much at all about computers, all she know is that
>>she feels she should have one because she is in Electrical Engineering.
>>
>>I told her I was mad at myself for not showing off the power of the Amiga.
>>
>>I truly believe my A500 (designed in 1985 and running at 7.16 Mhz), totally
>>blows away IBM pieces of shit running at 33Mhz.  {All my classmates seem
>>to have IBM clones of some sort, and they do nothing but complain and send
>>their motherboards in for new ones all the time;  and they also suffer
>>from an inferiority complexes when I show off my Amiga}.
>>
>>I like Heidi, so I want her to be happy, and I feel it would be best
>>if she cancelled her order and instead purchased an Amiga.
>>
>>You duty is to write her reasons why she would be better off and much
>>happier with an Amiga computer.  She is buying an IBM because everybody
>>else has one.  (Boy there are alot of stupid people who think they really
>>know something.)
>>
>>i.e  "Hey, I know MS-DOS", one might say....
>>
>>     "Yeah, and I know how to tie my shoe, so what?" I usually reply. 
>>
>>We gotta be arrogant, after all we did make the more intelligent decision
>>before; it's our right.  Please stop her from supporting crap
>>engineering, and let her give the profit to the makers of the Amiga.

>   What would she do with this Amiga?  Play games on it?  At least there is
>engineering software available for IBM-compatible systems.

AH AH AH AH AH AH AH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're really funny (are youre jocking,you aren't?)

>>EJR

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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Clinton/Gore (Was: A4000 graphics)
Distribution: world
Date: 7 Nov 92 14:05:42 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <rBDWr*641@dynam.adsp.sub.org> jmpor@dynam.adsp.sub.org (Jean-Marc Porchet) writes:
>In article <Bx2tzA.8t2@news.iastate.edu>, Marc N Barrett writes:
>
>>    The fact is, we have the best health care in the world, and our health care
>> system does not need to be replaced.  It only needs to be fixed.  The Tote
>> Reforms and malpractice reforms championed by Vice President Quayle would go
>> a long way toward fixing most of the problems with our health care system.
>
>This is really the first time I hear someone saying : "US health care are the 
>best in the world".
>
>I can't speak for Germany, but here in Switzerland everybody can go to 
>the hospital and get health care, even if he doesn't have any insurance or
>the money to pay for the care.
>
>At the hospital their first question is What is wrong and not have you got
>an insurance.
>
>Marc, I think  it's time to go out of Iowa and look at the world by yourself
>before writing such idiocy.

Just a bit of trivia:

I saw a list the other day that shows what each state has allocated in it's
budget for HIV/AIDS care.

Iowa, Idaho, Montana, and North Dakota allocated $0.

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Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: 300 MIP Amiga
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:19:44 GMT

In article <sf0T9fy00WBL48Slte@andrew.cmu.edu> "Eugene M. Feinberg" <ef23+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I'll share a few quick ideas about the Dec Alpha chips and
>the future of the Amiga.

>1)  Commodore and Dec signed some sort of agreement earlier in the year
>2)  For the Alpha information sheet from Dec:
>    "The Open Advantage: 
>     The 21064 (Alpha) microprocessor is strong testimony to Digital's
>     commitment to delivering the Open Advantage to our customers.
>3)  WOC Speech by VP of Engineering at Commodore hints at future RISC machines.
>4)  From a talk a went to by a representative from Dec:  "We are eager to show 
>    how the Alpha can be implemented into other architectures."

Beyond speculation, I think the most productive discussion would centre on
whether the A4000 CPU module is versatile enough to accommodate a RISC
processor (ie. arbitration, I/O processing). A related concern is feasibility
(would a RISC module be marketable?).

Another element is downward compatibility, as AmigaDOS would have to either
be rewritten or emulated to allow for use of current Amiga software. In the
short term, I would suspect that a RISC-based accelerator would have to
include provisions for an on-board CISC CPU for fallback. Under such a scheme,
it would be possible to potentially select from among AmigaDOS, Windows NT,
UNIX and VMS. Quite a variety to choose from.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: FALCON SPEED ......
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:30:15 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

E.A. Story (eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu) wrote:
> In article <rogeraw.26.721052087@dhhalden.no> rogeraw@dhhalden.no (ROGER ALLAN WAHLGREN) writes:

> > On the Falcon you have no seperation of the memory, and all can be used for
> > sound and graphics, and you have burst mode on the 68030. By the way, the
> > main cpu is not an EC, but a true 68030.
> 
> How do they manage to use burst mode on the 68030?

They don't.

-- 
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------------------------| they are all missing on what life is about
This space if for sale  |                        - Metallica
From: griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:25:20 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:

>  If "breast = dollars" in advertising,
>then why did GM, Ford, and Chrysler ditch that type of advertising?!  Why

Didn't know they did.  We recently had some big car shows, and GM (and the
others) had female bodies draped all over the cars.  They even brought back
pictures for the various plant newspapers.
-- 
Dan Griffin                    "You stand there with your fixed expression, 
griffin@egr.msu.edu             casting doubt on all I have to say..."
  The true test of Clinton's devotion to the American people will be if he 
  gets rid of the import tariff on German wine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Re: AGA <> Monitor answers
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 03:29:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.193623.10742@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (M.S. Ashton) writes:

>1084: Displays all the Modes it can with ECS (max. 1280*256 non interlaced
>						   1280*512 interlaced)
>No productivity - no flicker free higher resolutions.
>
>VGA: Same as SVGA below but is doesn't have same pixel accuracy as dot
>     pitch <.28
>SVGA: Displays all amiga Hi-Res modes.
>      This consists of 640*512(ni) 1280*512(ni) 640*1024(i) 800*600(i?)
>      These monitors are keyed to these resolutions and cannot handle Lo-res
>      modes (320*256,320*512(i),640*256... etc,etc)
>      If you are using the system for prof. work(i.e. Prefs/screenmode is
>      available) then you may use Mode Promotion.
>      This turns the lo-res modes into Hi-res by sending each line twice.
>      This allows SVGA monitors to display ALL amiga resolutions*
>      Bootable games will kick the Chipset into Lo-res so you cannot use
>      these on your SVGA.


Hmmm... I'm wondering if some software couldn't be written which would
survive a warm boot so that "Mode Promotion" could be used with bootable
games??????????????????????????




                                    NCW

PS

Thanks for the information.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: Chris_Lynn_Minshall@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: MorphPlus Used On Quantum Leap
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:17:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Might have posted that a week ago Perry!  I didn't see anything....(grin!)!

Chris
From: petter@pnilsen.UUCP (Petter Nilsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga sightings and other things positive.
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:01:31 GMT
Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmnor!pnilsen!petter@cbmvax.commodore.com
Organization: Ultima Thule Software
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Nov11.170759.13745@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
> In article <petter.08pc@pnilsen.UUCP> cbmehq!cbmnor!pnilsen!petter@cbmvax.commodore.com writes:
> >Just make sure you run Scala MM200 on the A4000 with a 256K anim with some
> >sound, laservideo in the (genlocked) background (controlled by Scala). You'll
> >take the show home.. ;)
>
> Well, the UPS man just came by and the A4000 isn't here yet.  :-(  Oh well,
> if it comes in tomorrow I'll still be able to bring it over for the show,
> I was just hoping to have a bit of time to copy some demos, pics, etc. over.
> Also, I've heard that some of the A4000s have hard drives formatted with the
> OFS (!) and I wanted to reformat it using FFS if it did.

Yes, the very first A4000s came with OFS but a friend of mine got his today with
FFS, so  I don't think that should be a problem. Just remember to add more
buffers in HDToolBox, as the HD is dog-slow without atleast >100 for each partition.

> Does Scala come with the A4000?  I have no idea what the A4000 will come with
> as no one really seems to be providing much information about it.

No, Scala MM200 doesn't come with the A4000, even though it should since it makes
full use fo the AGA set. But I know that the bundle with the A3000/ScalaMM200 has
been very successfull in the USA and Scala AS here in Norway had to send another
shipload of packages for this bundle when the first 1500 where sold in a few days.
Considering this, it might be a good idea to do the same with the A4000, or atleast
supply AmigaVision Pro with it, whenever it comes available.

> I wish not that I'd sprung for the 2nd day air...  :-(

Well, I'm selling my A3000 now and hopefully I'll have an A4000 soon.

In the meantime, any Norwegians interested in a cheap A3000 ? ;)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Subject: Re: What does an A4000 cost ??
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:04:04 GMT

In <1992Nov12.014552.24085@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE) writes:

>I would appreciate if people in Europe and the USA could drop me some
>email with details on A4000 pricing in your part of the world.

I think it costs around 2500 UK pounds incl. VAT. That's US$4500. :-(
(A4000-'040/120MB) The 1960 is something like 450 pounds on top of that.

Barry.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez)
Subject: Re: Calling all lurkers!
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:44:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.005558.29534@ra.msstate.edu>, skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
[stuff deleted]

|> >In fact, having written this, I'm sorry I didn't just e-mail to you!
|> 
|> Don't worry, you'll have to post alot more than one article before folks
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  How true... I remember my case.. :-)

|> start recognizing you.  However, if you'd like, we can start a whole
|> series of followups that will guaranteed that your name will appear 
|> several times...  :-)
|> 
|> Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
|> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

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From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 case design (was Re: Top 10 reasons why ...)
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:09:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.asq1qtj
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

In article <5905@balrog.ctron.com>, nyberg@ctron.com (Jason W. Nyberg) writes:
|> danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) writes:
|> 
|> Why would you have to "get to" all the custom chips, other than to get a look
|> at them? (yawn)  Should Commodore put all the drives and the power supply
|> in a separate box, just so you can oogle the motherboard unhindered? (by
|> those annoying power supplies!)  If something bugs you like that, just rip it
|> out and you won't have to worry anymore.

Well, gee, just MAYBE I'll want to replace one someday! I've replaced my
kickstart twice, my Agnus once, and had to get to the Gary chip to connect
up my MultiStart II. So, all told, I've needed to get to those connectors four
times in 4 years - and each time, off with the drive bay!

Don't you patronize me. I'll hand you your nose.

|> Commodore should start marketing A4000s, encased in solid lucite with all
|> the parts "exploded" out so that you could see everything inside.  With an
|> ebony base.   $10,000 a pop.
|> 
|> Are you planning on piggybacking something on the back of the custom chips? :)

Yeah! I already did, my MultiStart. If I had a 4000, I'd STILL want the board..
I run a *LOT* of 1.3-only software that will still work with the 68040.

(I assume... it works with the 68030....)

|> -- 
|> Jason Nyberg                Amiga... The Eagle Talon of Computers
|> nyberg@ctron.com
|> 
|> "Work is the curse of the drinking class"      W. C. Feilds
|> 
|> Disclaimer: My opinions are just that...

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From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Games and the C64
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:24:05 GMT

In article <BxCxKx.ExA@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Lozinski) writes:
>
>Archon was the chess style like game for the C64. I don't even think 
>games like Battle Chess I or II for the Amiga come close.

Well, it was chess-style, but it's unfair to compare Archon to Battle Chess.
The great thing about Archon was that it was genuinely original - how many
games can you say _that_ about?

>One nice thing
>about Archon was the magic and the was no guaranteed winner of a move. I
>beat the Unicorns several times with the pawns that carry the clubs!

It was one of the first games to adapt to how well you were playing.  If you
were doing badly, the computer would make itself easier to beat in the battles.

>That's one of the few games I boot my C64 up to play with.

I'll have to dig out my A1000 and have a game...

>I hope the game developers that developed these games are reading this
>group and getting a hint, like how about some really good ports!

As I just alluded to, Archon was one of the first Amiga games out.  It was
a port, but it was at a level above the 64 version in terms of sound and
graphics (as it should be, but it was good to see EA trying to support the
Amiga properly, rather than do quick and dirty ports to make quick dollars
in a market with no competition).

>lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu


-- 
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 - But I'd rather be using an AMIGA!  Wouldn't you?
Find me in Mareeba, Australia (on the pointy bit in the northeast)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: e91sg@efd.lth.se (Stefan Gimeson)
Subject: SVGA VS. 1084 on AGA...
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:47:44 GMT

I presently own a 1084 monitor for my amiga, but if/when I'm going 
to upgrade to an AGA machine, I'm thinking of getting an SVGA-monitor 
to use with the new Amiga (1200/4000). 
I which way will I benefit from using a SVGA, instead of my old 1084 ?
Will there be any differences in the resolutions or colors I can use, 
or shall I just keep my old 1084 ??

/stefan


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