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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:50:00 EDT
From:         DAVID FARR <dfarr@ASRR.ARSUSDA.GOV>
Subject:      Recommend. for randon orbital sanders

The current issue of FHB has a good survey of these sanders.  I have the
small Bosch and have been happy with it.

DAVE FARR       DFARR@ASRR.ARSUSDA.GOV   301-5045274
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
From: plummer@den.mmc.com (Mike Plummer)
Subject: Re: Inlay, beach
Originator: plummer@figueroa
Keywords: inlay
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:29:03 GMT



Mike>I've done a bit of inlay work on guitars that I've built.
MIke>I use abalone cut from raw shells that I find on the beach near here......
						    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Paul>Oh come now, Mike!  Is this just wishful thinking, or just a stretch of the
Paul>word 'near'?
Paul>I live in Boulder and as far as I know, the *nearest* beach is something 
Paul>like 1200 miles away.....

Paul,
	That does look a little suspicious doesn't it.  Getting abalone from the
beach near Denver.  Well, for some reason my XRN service is piped from our 
Denver office to me here at Vandenberg A.F.B., Lompoc, CA.  I work on the
Titan launch vehicle program here.  I am approx. 10 miles from some of the best 
abalone gathering places in the state.  I guess you could try looking
around Cherry Creek Reservior, might find some clams anyway. Good Luck!
I hope this re-establishes my critability a bit. Nice flame tho.

Your friend at the beach,
Mike Plummer
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Reasons for owning a planer (was Re: Red Oak in Bulk)
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:02:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvaac.1992Oct15.160239.25265
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

boykin@gte.com (Joseph Boykin) writes:
: In article <138609@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, gary_preckshot@lccmail.ocf.llnl.gov (gary preckshot) writes:
: |> In article <1992Oct9.222611.10752@adobe.com>, bennett@adobe.com (Bennett Leeds) writes:
: |> Tage Frid says, with considerable justification I'd say, that you should
: |> joint, plane, and glue within a couple of days.
: 
: This brings up a question: Let's say I have an 8+" piece of wood
: to plane but I have a 4" jointer.  Anyone have any good techniques
: for doing this?

Yeah - a good and sharp block plane. Don't try to force your jointer to 
do something for which it is not designed. That is just asking for an
accident.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
From: jjoslin@kingcong.UWaterloo.ca (Jeff Joslin)
Subject: Re:      Delta contractor's saw
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:28:35 GMT

DAVID FARR <dfarr@ASRR.ARSUSDA.GOV> writes:
>I asked Delta about the alignment of the slots with the blade.  This is
>a factory setting.  If the saw does not meet the manufactures
>specifications then you will have to return saw to Delta for realignment.
>
Nah.  My Delta Cabinet saw (which has the same top and arbor assembly as the
contractor's saw) was a bit out of alignment too.  I simply loosened the
four bolts that attached the trunnions to the underside of the top, tapped
it lightly to move the assembly in the right direction, tightened up the
bolts, and checked the alignment again.  I was lucky enough to get it right
the first time.  But even if it takes a few iterations, it's no big deal.
I have no idea why the procedure isn't explained in the manual.

Jeff


-- 
Jeff Joslin                            University of Waterloo grad student

Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
From: troy@cs.sfu.ca (Troy Brooks)
Subject: Re: How do I bend an oak 4x4? (rounding it afterwards)
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:06:52 GMT

 Sorry if this is an FAQ, but I've only discovered this group recently,
 and I haven't seen any mention of one... 

 Re: bending. How, exactly, do you steam bend wood? It seems to me
 you'd need a LOT of steam, covering the whole length of the board,
 or at least substantial parts of it, and I can't see waving a kettle
 back and forth. :-) Do you have to get a special steaming apparatus,
 or can you build one, or what?

 Also, what is the thickest size of strip you're likely to get away
 with by bending/laminating? I saw Norm on NYWS do two methods,
 setting up straight pieces with 22.5 degree mitre cuts, and gluing
 it up, and then band-sawing out the smooth curve, and also
 laminating strips of wood. His pieces were much shorter, I think,
 and the overall thickness was less than 4", so I don't know how
 applicable that was.

 thanks in advance,

 Troy Brooks
 troy@cs.sfu.ca
From: jjohnson@EDWARDS-SCY.AF.MIL (Jim Johnson 7-9535 (6518 TS/EN))
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Table saw brands
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:11:59 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL0]
              at Oct 16, 92 12:18 pm


      At the risk of hurting feelings ( which I very much do not want to do)
      I did not buy the new Ryobi table saw because I was not impressed with
      the extruded aluminum wear surfaces and plastic friction surfaces in
      the fence lock.

      I bought the Delta contractor's saw and like it although the jet lock
      fence requires care in alignment as it does not self align as well as
      I would like.

      James Johnson
      Standard Disclaimer
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
From: xpotcw@alpha.oryx.COM (thomas c woolley)
Subject: Router bit search
Organization: Oryx Energy Co 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:18:05 GMT

I am looking for a 3/4 inch radius rounding over router bit with a 1/4 inch shank.	

They are plentiful in 1/2 inch shank, but nowhere to be found in 1/4 inch.  Any
leads would be greatly appreciated
From: millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: tail vises
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:43:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1bi4khINNr84@early-bird.think.com> steveo@think.com (stephen anthony) writes:
>I got to thinking about tail vises the other day (software design specs
>will do that every now and then),

No kidding.  I think about tail vises all the time - especially when
mentally inserting a fragile body part of some draggin-their-feet
committee members I have the misfortune of dealing with.

>Norm's design is a simple block with dog holes that rides in a track. The
>block is connected to a screw for un/tightening. Frid's is a much more
>complex 'L' shaped block, one leg of which has dog holes, and thru which
>the screw passes. There is also a guide strip on this leg. The other leg is
>used to provide a second guide strip to assure alignment.
>
>My question is, which design is better and why? Certainly, Frid's design is
>more frequently seen in top quality benches, hence, is considered the better
>design. But how much better is it?

Well, I'm not of the "It's on the expensive benches, therefore
it must be better" school myself.  I always believe there's a better
way to build a mousetrap.

>Crude Ascii:

Yeah, real crude:  There wasn't anything there.

Personally, I think that Norm's design (which also shows up in one of
the Woodsmith books, I believe) is the better one.  The only thing
that you can't do with Norm's design is to hold a board in a vertical
position; you would use the widthwise (with respect to the bench)
section of the tail vise (a la Frid) to do this.  This would be
very handy when doing board-end work.

However, I am not enthusiastic about having that thing on the end of the
bench.  I would rather have the same functionality on the *front*
of the bench.  In that case, I'd put the Tucker Vise on the front.

Something I thought of - suppose you used the Norm design to get
Y axis movement, and put the whole thing on a vise assembly for X
movement.  I personally am considering making a bench of this design;
I'd have square dog holes and round dog holes - that would allow me
to basically hold anythign of any shape on the bench.  There is the
problem of preventing racking, tho.  With careful planning of dog
holes, this could be prevented.

A bench with that arrangment for the front right, the tucker vise 
section on the front left, and a leg vise complementing the tucker
somewhere in the middle, you can basically hold a board in any
position you want - horizontally flat (for surface planing), 
horizontally on edge (for jointing), and vertically upright (for
end grain work - tenons, dovetails, etc.).

How's that?  A better mousetrap?

Bill
From: gary_preckshot@lccmail.ocf.llnl.gov (gary preckshot)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Protecting a table saw
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:03:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: LLNL

In article <1992Oct10.032235.19673@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:
> 
[stuff deleted]
> 
> >How do you guard against rust?
> 

A friend of mine used to protect his Southbend lathe by covering it loosely
with plastic, spaced away from direct contact with the metal by dry wood
blocks, and running a 25 watt bulb placed in the lower regions of the machine.
This kept things mildly warm and above ambient, so the moisture decided
to condense elsewhere.  Lately another acquaintence suggested using a 100 watt
250 volt bulb for longevity.

I think it worked pretty well.  Lou's machine was always almost perfect.

This isn't to suggest that you shouldn't also use wax or talc.  They both have
good anti-friction properties that recommend them in their own right.


Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: marshab@apex.com (Marsha Bates)
Subject: Re: Skier classification
Organization: Apex Computer Company
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:56:11 GMT

In article <BvpyC9.LvE@mail.boi.hp.com> kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen) writes:
>hgork@iesd.auc.dk (Birgitte Krogh) writes:
>> advantages about skiing is that it is fun from the very beginning
>> (unlike e.g. tennis...). AND DON'T SPOIL THIS! -- I'm trying to
>> persuade my boyfriend to come with me this winter... on his first
>> skiing holiday.
>> 'gork
>> --
>   A friendly suggestion.  On his first day, make sure the weather is good,
>and don't try to push him to hard.  Be *very* supportive, and don't critize
>much.  Words like "That's great!, but try this next" work well.  
>Make sure his boots don't hurt his feet. 
>Good luck!
>Keith

A better suggestion.  Don't take him yourself the first time.  Have
him take a lesson or make him go with a friend of yours that skiis 
well. 


Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jim Beutel)
Subject: Re: Utah boy misses home
Reply-To: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:10:52 GMT

Hey server Dude,
I spent six months out the in Sandy in the late 70's
Beautiful state. Best skiing in the world (my opinion).
I miss it also. To bad there is not much industry.
I tried my hand at Metalurgy right out of college.
Computers tend to pay MUCH more..... Have skied Logan's 
Beaver Mnt. one several occasions. Do prefer Alta though.
Miss the view into the valley from the top of Parleys...!
Or the view from the other side, at Kenacott mine. You
mentioned your in the Bay area now..? I tried Los Angeles
for ten years.... Had to get out. What a zoo. I like Phoenix
now. Not to crowded yet. Close enough to Powell, Zion, Bryce...
You get the picture... Owell, take care. Thanks for the memory!

Regards,
Jim

---
Jim Beutel	

Motorola SPS ASIC            beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
1300 N. Alma School Rd       Computer Operations 
M/S CH290  AZ50              office:  (602) 821-4967
Chandler, Arizona 85224	     telefax: (602) 821-4963
From: belyaev@eldpa.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Skiing in Russia (Altai, Kamchatka)
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:15:56 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

The group of Russian skiers from Moscow invites you to take part in the
skiing in the next exotic places of Russia:
-Kamchatka
Peninsula on the NE of Russia between Sea of Okhotsk and Bering Sea.
Famous for its virgin nature, excellent mountain paysage and volcano.
-Altai
Mountain system in the Central Asia between Outer Mongolia and Sinkiang
region of West China. South of Siberia. Place of excellent opportunity
for skiing in virgin nature.

For more information please contact:

Prof. Eugene Moscovets
Institute of Spectroscopy, RAS
142092, Troitsk, Moscow Region,
Russia

fax +7-(095)-3340886
e-mail lls@isan.msk.su
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: Where to go in France...
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:51:34 GMT

.... 24th October, les 2 Alpes.  First day of winter skiing in France.

It's been a cold autumn and there's tonnes of unskied powder, by the
25th it'll be spoilt.

David.
From: jefftb@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Jeff Brown)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:57:56 GMT
Subject: Re: What, Raichele SWEDISH? (Re: Boots recommendations wanted)
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

    I love my Saloman SX92 E's but that's my feet. Your feet may vary.
From: kjs3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KEITH JAMES SANFACON)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Open???
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:49:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <yury.02no@bknightjpr.com>, yury@bknightjpr.com (Yury German) writes:
>Hmmm I just heard a little radio comercial that states that Killington in
>Vermont is open??? Is this true... I know that the weather can not be that
>much different the lowest it has been is 40 here at night in NY so can
>anyone confirm this please???
>
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>
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>
Killington is open.  As  of October 11 there are 2 trails open.
From: davin@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Veale)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Telemark skis
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:55:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct11.175521.10229
Organization: University of Washington

davis@lugg.utah.edu (Darrell R. Davis) writes:


>on Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:21:28 GMT,
>bannan@convex.com (Bill Bannan) said:

>>>     Has anyone out there in Net-land seen anything new & exciting in Telemark
>>>     Equipment for this year? Specificly I'm looking for skis that have the 
>>>     manuverability & stability that my Cirques have, yet hold an edge on ice 
>>>     which the Cirques definitely do not (chatter chatter chatter).


>I have just the ticket, although you could hardly call them new.  A
>pair of 195 cm Dynastar Omeglass II's.  If you want something new I
>have been thinking that one of the "Extreme" skis would make good
>Tele's.  These are generally a little softer in the tip than a slalom
>ski, but pretty quick.

>This isn't a purist attitude, but I already cheat so bad with my Asolo
>Extreme Racers that a real ski completes the package.

>I have skied the Cirques and really like them, but can't relate to the
>price. 

I couldn't agree more -I'm currently skiing a pair of Dynastar Course
slalom boards and love them.  They're built just as light as any telemark
ski, so they work fine for touring, which is mostly what I use them for. 
The added stability and durability of a downhill ski are real plusses.
From: bruno@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruno Melli)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:58:20 GMT
Subject: Re: What, Raichele SWEDISH? (Re: Boots recommendations wanted)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> Some other Swiss brands (at least skiis) are; Authier and Lacroix,

Is that right ? I always thought that Lacroix were named after
Leo Lacroix who used to be on the French national team at about the
same time Killy was...

bruno.
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Best spots to ski in Northeast??
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:15:45 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <BvxJBE.EAD@world.std.com> twm3@world.std.com (Thomas W Moore) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.191306.15262@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>>I'M NOT SAYING THAT CROWDS ARE GOOD, BUT DID YOU EVER STOP AND THINK THAT MAYBE
>>THE REASON SUNDAY RIVER ATTRACTS LESS PEOPLE IS THAT LESS PEOPLE FIND IT TO BE
>>ATTRACTIVE? WHY WOULD SOO MANY PEOPLE GO TO SOMEWHERE (KILLINGTON) IF IT WASN'T
>>ANY GOOD?
>>
>>							MAKES SENSE TO ME...
>>							Todd S.
>
>Todd,
>
>With rational like that, you should strongly consider a job with IBM in
>their marketing department.
>
>-Tom

Damn...somebody beat me to him....ah well... :)
Further suggestion Todd, when you take your cap skis to get tuned this
fall, take your caps lock key with you and see if they can fix that too....
(Sorry, but I couldn't resist :) :) :^)  )

----Steve
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Smart Ticket
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:01:04 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com


I must say that I am in favor of the "smart" ticket system.
My wife and  I skied at Mt. Ste. Anne outside of Quebec in 
March, and they employ the system there.
We only skied 1 day, and I was not aware of their ticketing
policy, or I might hae bought a point-based ticket instead
of an all day. 

My wife and I did not have any of the problems mentioned in this
thread: Confusion at the turnstile, ticket snapping in my face.
I guess if you place the ticket on a pocket zipper and keep the
ticket in your pocket like we did, there wouldn't be a problem,
although.

I know that if my favorite place to ski (Sunday River) gets this
smart ticket system, I am going to buy the maximum point tickets,
more points/dollar, and use them all season long.
I am not 1 of the most organized people in the world, but I think
I can manage to keep track of a lift ticket!

Well, off to check the conditions for Killington.
TTFN.

~
Jack Tavares	(603) 337-1463 (603) 332-1019 (FAX)
Cabletron 	PO Box 5005 Rochester, NH 03867-0505
Disclaimer: Cabletron could care less!
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Snowboard info: Boots, brands, etc
From: hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 04:14:32 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Oct2.152635.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> kpjone01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>Anyone have any comments on the use of Hard boots vs. Soft boots for 
>Snowboarding?

It depends a lot on the style of riding you enjoy, and the sort of terrain
and snow you ride.  At the extremes, soft boots are ideal for half pipe,
while hard boots/plate bindings are the choice for alpine racing.  If you
are free riding then it may depend to which of these camps you lean.

Personally, I like the precision of a hard boot setup; but being a skier also
I guess I'm biased.  Skaters/surfers more often seem to prefer soft
systems.

Try both if you can.
-- 
Hugh Grierson          Fujitsu/ICL New Zealand - Software Development Centre
hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz                Speaking for myself only.  See figure 1.
I'm a masochist -- I like a cold shower in the morning, so I take a hot one.
From: pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skier classification
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:50:30 GMT
Reply-To: pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, hgork@iesd.auc.dk (Birgitte Krogh) says:

>>>>>> On 30 Sep 92 22:31:36 GMT, kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen) said:
>kde> X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
>
>kde> How about:
>
>kde>    Beginner: a skier that has a little fun.  
>kde>    Intermediate: a skier that has more fun.  
>kde>    Advanced: a skier that has a lot of fun.
>kde>    Expert: a skier that laughs like a maniac in the powder.
>kde>    After all, that *is* the reason we're out there.
>
>Sure, sure, but I've known lots of beginners (including me, some years
>ago) that had *a lot* of fun! Actually, I reckon one of the great
>advantages about skiing is that it is fun from the very beginning
>(unlike e.g. tennis...). AND DON'T SPOIL THIS! -- I'm trying to
>persuade my boyfriend to come with me this winter... on his first
>skiing holiday.
>

I couldn't agree with Brigitte more. One of the best things of the sport
is the feeling of accomplishment you get from learning and doing something
for the first time. I've had as much fun as a beginner as I do now after
24 years of skiing.

-- 
Pete Babic  -  pab@po.cwru.edu          ///
LIVE TO PARTY, SKI TO DIE!!!           ///  /\
Member of A.C.E                  \\\  ///  /--\MIGA  
(American Coaster Enthusiasts)    \\\/// MS-DOS or a Mac? What's that?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: CLASSIFICATION???
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:14:23 GMT

A little tip on how to classify your skiing ability.......
Here is my method of how to judge yourself................
Are you ready?
If you are wondering how to classify yourself then........

You aren't an advanced or expert skiier.

If you were good, you wouldn't need to ask.... If you THINK you are PRETTY
GOOD then you are an intermediate, and if you wish you were good, then you
are a beginner.

Pretty simple HUH?

						JUST MY 2cents on the subject.
								Todd S.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing