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Comments:     Originally-From: Michael Sachs <V5289E@TEMPLEVM>
From:         Michael Sachs <V5289E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: McElwaine Strikes Again

  Dear SPORTPSY,

     Just to let you know that we got a quick response from address UWEC
and that your faithful List Coordinator is on the job, the following is
provided FYI.

     Sincerely, Michael Sachs

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:28 CST you said:
>>    Please let me know if you have any questions concerning this request.
>>My address is V5289E@TEMPLEVM.  Thank you very much for your help and
>>consideration.
>
>Thank you very much for the information.  We are working on the problem.
>

     Greatly appreciate your reply.  Glad to hear that you are working
on the problem.


>The one question I have is:
>Did you ever ask Mr McElwaine to stop posting?
>

      Actually, I must admit that I haven't.  When we had our first posting
there were a number of angry responses from SPORTPSY members about this
material being on the bulletin board.  Several members noted that they had
been subject to this on other boards and that they understood that, when
asked about it, Mr. McElwaine responded with a discussion about first
amendment rights and that the only approach that was supposed to be
effective was working through the list administrator.  If that information
is incorrect (i.e., I should contact McElwaime directly), please let me
know.  To be honest, I have no particular interest/desire to contact him
directly but will if necessary.


>Thanks,
>
>-- Dan

     Thanks very much for your help with this.

     Sincerely, Michael Sachs, List Coordinator, SPORTPSY
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From:         SUSAN WALTER <SWALTER@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SOUTHEAST SPORT & EXERCISE PSYCHOLOGY SYMPOSIUM
              20 Jan 1993 08:20:33 +1000 from
              </G=Cathy/S=Smith/OU=Athadmin/@AUSPORT.TELEMEMO.AU>

To fly from Canberra is but a wee trip in the eyes of what you'll gain from
coming to the conference!!  Ouch!  That sounds a bit thick!!  Couldn't resist!
If you can't make the conference, stop by some other time!
                                                          The Miami Crew
                                                                  (Ohio)
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:06:00 PST
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Subject:      Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS

what does the "divine masters" thing have to do with sports
psychology?
jennifer at usc
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:33:00 PST
From:         UNGER@USCMVSA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: A job (sort of)

Michael,
Thanks for writing to the listowner!  I have seen annoying
messages from Robert on other lists, and I have sent messages
directly to him asking him to stop posting messages that are
irrelevant to the lists he's posting on, but he has never
replied to me.  So it seems like contacting the listowner
is the only way to deal with him.  Thanks for keeping
sportpsy focused!
Jennifer at USC
P.S.  I just realized that I forgot to change the subject
heading, but my system won't let me go back and do it now.
So for anyone who was expecting a message about A job (sort
of), sorry!
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:20:48 EST
From:         Michael Sachs <V5289E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      A job (sort of)

     For those of you more in the generalist category or more eclectically
oriented, the University of Missouri-Columbia has a position in Sport
Management with adult fitness, exercise psychology, or motor behavior as
possible support areas.  The position is tenure track and requires an
earned doctorate prior to appointment.  If interested, send a letter of
application, vita, one copy of official transcripts of all graduate work,
and three current, original professional letters of recommendation
addressed to:

     Search Committee
     Dept. of Health and Physical Education
     20 Rothwell Gymnasium,
     University of Missouri-Columbia,
     Columbia, MO 65211

     Formal review of applications begins March 1st.

     Info taken from the latest issue (just out) of UPDATE (Feb. 1993,
page 14).

     Sincerely, Michael Sachs
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:25:25 EST
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Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS

Do we really have to be subjected to the self serving drivel of
McElwaine? Save it for your pulpit, sir!
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:39:42 -0700
From:         EMINO <EMINO@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      thanks

Just a little note to say thanks to all of you who gave me leads into my quest
 for information on audience effects.  I got some pret
ty promising leads; hopefully I'll be able to make something out of all the new
 info.  Thanks again!
-Brian Butki "EMINO"
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From:         "Sylvia Gorman 753-1875 (815)" <A01SSG1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Monitor/VMPRF

    We are in the process of converting from VM SP5 to VM/XA 2.1.
I have the honor of setting up the Monitor, VMPRF and MICS service
machines.
    I'm not into it too deeply yet, but I can see some problems
ahead and would like to solicit advice.  What I have set up is
a MONWRITE machine that collects the monitor data on disk.
MONWRITE is controlled by the MONITOR machine.
    At specified times MONWWRITE closes  the current file and
starts a new one.  MICS is notified (via SMSG) that a file is waiting
and MICS processes it.  Eventually  VMPRF will also have to
process the data and spit out whatever reports we decide we want.
It will probably be autologged at midnight and process a whole days
worth of records, but this isn't implemented yet.
    Since disk space is at a premium and we have no tape drives
attached to the VM system I need to come up with a scheme to erase
the already processed files off MONWRITE's minidisk.  This seems to
imply some sort of communication between MONITOR or MONWRITE,
MICS and VMPRF.  MICS and VMPRF would have to somehow
let MONITOR or MONWRITE know that they had successfully processed
the files and that deletion was OK.  Is anyone doing anything like
this?  Would you be willing to share either code or ideas?
    I would also welcome replies indicating different ways other
shops have dealt with the whole MONITOR issue.
   Thanks in advance.

Sylvia Gorman
Systems Programmer
Northern Illinois University
A01SSG1@NIU (bitnet)
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:55:15 -0400
From:         The Integral Differential <DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reagan's legacy and the politics of the SC
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>
>Brett' says:
>
>>        From what I've heard, Mario would rank on the same plane as Clarence
 as
>>far as qualifications go.  (Clarence said he thought he would be nominated,
 but
>>not until 1995...assuming GB II, of course.)
>>
>
>Oh?  I didn't realize that Clarence Thomas had been a law professor at
>one of the top law schools in the country...that he had an impeccable
>record representing the people of his home district as a legislator...
>that he is regarded by friend and foe alike as one of the best legal
>minds in country....also as one of the best public policy minds, too...
>that he had proven himself in more than simple _appointed_ positions
>in government...that he has a long record of eloquence concerning the
>law and its application in society....
>
>
>I thought Clarence Thomas was a butt-kissing appointee with no respect
>in any circle, legal or otherwise (acceptance by the Republican Party
>as a rubber-stamp token black is neither respect nor something of
>which to be proud).
>
>
>Thanks for clearing that up, Brett'.  I only have to figure out: since
>Thomas and Cuomo are on the same "plane", should I lower my original
>opinion of Cuomo or raise (significantly) my opinion of Thomas?
>-T.

        Lower, definately lower.  He is, after all, a mafioso-butt kissing "do
anything" power hungery politcal hack only admired by those who want the power
he has so they can srew as many people as he has.

Brett'
:)
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:53:00 CST
From:         TI0PSR1@NIU.BITNET
Subject:      Gennifer, "Czar's" cheerleader

Travlr

It occurs to me that if your self-esteem is so low (being little and
feeble), you might try "meister" instead of Meester, at least when
addressing me.

If you equate any degree of confidence with better-than-everbodyish
ness, then I would have to suspect either you haven't been on the
list long or your attention span is impaired for you have mis-cast
me in the role which Jamie plays to perfection (I confess my admira-
tion for his deft ability also).

Good point, also, about the male voice imitating Clinton.  Too bad
poor Bill wasn't intelligent enough to think that one up, otherwise,
he could have saved his little apology to Mario.  Why isn't the Pres
as bright as you are !

God, my poker face is already blushing !
                                                P.S.Ruckman,Jr.
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From:         K=A*T <MEC038@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: William Jefferson Clinton -- anagram
              28 Jan 1993 12:06:21 -0400 from <DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>

On Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:06:21 -0400 The Integral Differential said:

>>........  Why is capital gains such a scared cow?  Why?

>        Because you've already been taxed for the money once.

I *think* you mean that the money invested has already
been taxed once.  Correct.  However, the "gain" part of
it has NOT been taxed before.

So according to you if I buy item A for $10 (a money
that I have already paid taxes on) and item B for
another $10 (again, I have already paid taxes on the
money) and sell it for $25 (say there are no other
expenses involved), then the extra $5 would be a scared
cow too?

>Brett'

--KAT
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:23:37 PST
From:         Jonathan Fisher <jfisher@NETXWEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: Reflections on the Isareli situation ...
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> Dear All,
>
>         This is my first posting to the list, and I have a nice flame proof
> suit on. I wanted to comment on Johnathon's words about Israel in the
> Palestinians. Yet again we are playing straight into the hands of those who
> want to ruin the peace process. I wonder why the Israelis who are very keen to
> be seen as the only legitimate state in the area in terms of democracy and
> human rights [and they are arguably the closest to achieving this] would act
 in
> such a ridiculous manner. To expel this lot without due processas stateless
> persons into their own proxy state in Lebanon, is completely against the
> fundamental precepts of International law [not to say that it is not used
> elsewhere] and is a god-send to Hamas in their own fight for legitmacy in the
> face of a virtual PLO hegemony. To keep these people out without due process
 is
> a continuing embarassment to the Israelis and the policy of explusion.
>
> -- Toby
Toby,
I agree with you.  I think that the timing was bad.  The idea is bad.
But I don't live in Israel. I don't live in a country which is extremely
small.  A country whose existence has been threatened since day one.
A country that even to this day has multiple terrorist organizations
living on it's soil vowing only to destroy the country and replace it with a
'palestinian' country.   I agree that Israel is playing right into the
hands of the Hamas.  But with multiple killings, a virtual rein of terror,
and a vowing of the continuing of the process, I'm not sure what I would
have done had I been the head of the government.
My point was not that the expelling wasn't a good idea (it wasn't).  It was
that Israel is on the receiving end of a lot of unfair critism.

Jonathan
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From:         The Integral Differential <DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Musical Presidents
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>
>By the way, it's probably old news to the board, but Ms. Baird withdrew her
>nomination in the wee hours of the morning.

        Ahhh, where's my fork?

Brett'
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:43:00 EST
From:         "Peter J. Schledorn" <UNCPJS@UNC.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Supreme Court decision
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> Peter:
>
> The people that gathered last Friday to scream "ban abortion" weren't
> molested?
>
> Whose line are *you* buying?  Pay attention.  When DC police are called
> in to restrain counter-demonstrators to a peaceful public march,
> *something* is going on.

The news reports I saw said that the counter-demonstrators were "few"
and reported no disturbances (and we all know how much the media like
to dwell on fights).

Besides, what are you complaining about?  That if there was a small
disturbance the police did their job and stopped it?  That's much
better than many large marches fare.

There were no reports of anyone trying to abridge the marchers' right
to assemble and speak.  And there was certainly no abridgement in
fact--by all reports the demonstration went off smoothly.

So you're going to have to do better if you want to use this case to
bolster some kind of conspiracy theory.

Unless you're just joking again :-).

Best,
Peter

> --NINAR Kerry

BTW, did anybody tell you of your out-of-body appearance on the list
just before your official return?  I reposted your rec.humor.funny
note scant days before you reappeared.  I point to it as an example
of my extraordinary prescience.  And I'm sticking to that story, too.
:-)
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:49:10 EST
From:         Kerry Stephenson <KSTE@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Health Care Reform
              27 Jan 1993 15:27:27 PST from <jfisher@NETXWEST.COM>

I'm confused.

Back when I was a gullible liberal taking PC history, I was told
that America was an evil place because 50-something of the
Founding fathers were lawyers.

So now, with the new PC president elected to "change" everything
and make America a wonderful multicultural place to live,
where everyone is equal, we have an administration full of.....

LAWYERS??

Shouldn't we be just a wee bit annoyed about that?

--NINAR Kerry
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:03:41 EST
From:         K=A*T <MEC038@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bray v. Alexandria [Jamie's response]

On Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:34:01 EST Jamie said:

>Women-seeking-abortions is precisely the kind of classification
>by a kind of behavior that people reasonably object to. (Well,
>I suppose the "reasonable" is arguable, but *I* wouldn't argue
>against it, and obviously Scalia wouldn't either.)

If we were talking about PEOPLE seeking to eat
ice-creams, I would have agreed with you 100%.
However, how about denying ice-cream to only blacks?
Now I know my black-seeking-ice-cream analogy is not
perfect, but still.

A couple things bother me.  (1) Only womyn seek
abortion.  (2) though all womyn may not seek abortion,
all have the potential of seeking one.  So to deny
abortion to a few who are seeking it now is to deny to
all or any womyn who might seek it in the future.

What if we denied access to using the highways to womyn
seeking it?  Obviously that subset does not constitute
the whole women set, but IT COULD.

>Jamie

--KAT
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From:         Kerry Stephenson <KSTE@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bushwhacking Saddam
              25 Jan 1993 00:35:12 -0400 from <DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>

Just a quick point:

I would consider the Gulf War a "Nintendo War," not for the technology,
but for the coverage.

I'm still expecting the networks to come up with "America's Funniest
War Videos."

--NINAR Kerry
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:40:19 EST
From:         Jamie <PL436000@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      PS sucks Lemon

From:         TI0PSR1@NIU.BITNET

PS opines,

>For those who do not consult the 7-11 guide to the Supreme Court :
>    The prongs of the Lemon Test concern :
>          - a strictly secular purpose
>          - whether an act or a law advance or inhibit religion
>          - whether there is an excessive government entanglement

I take it that by using the expression "7-11 guide to the
Supreme Court" PS means to disparage MY explanation of
the Lemon test, which was:

>The test seems to be, a law must not:
>1) have a religious PURPOSE, OR
>2) have a principal or primary religious EFFECT, OR
>3) foster "an excessive government entanglement with religion."

Now, there are scant differences between my explanation and
PS's. However, where they do differ, mine is correct. The
difference is in the second criterion, which I say is whether
a law (what PS means by distinguishing an "act" from a "law"
is a mystery to me) has a PRINCIPAL or PRIMARY religious
effect, and which PS says is whether an act or law advances
or inhibits religion, by which I suppose he means ANY effect.
So let's go to the text:

   Three such texts may be gleaned from our cases. [...]
   second, its **principal or primary** effect must be one that
   neither advances nor inhibits religion....
   (Burger's majority opinion, my emphasis)

Nice try, PS. And don't be discouraged! Keep trying!

And keep searching for that elusive "unworkability" criterion. I'm
sure you'll find a good example, some day. Until then, stick to
your convictions, don't let evidence stand in your way....

Jamie, right again, and still not tired of it
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From:         The Integral Differential <DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clinton and JFK
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>> >I think it means that Bill is
>> >hoping for a piece of Madonna.
>> >
>> >                              -Tim
>>         She only has eyes for Chelsea.
>> Brett'
>
>Brett...  The Brett-meister...  Brett-o-rama...  Writing the
>messages... Quoting SNL [Saturday Night Live]...

        My wife (who can't remember which party Reagan is in) came in in the
middle of this skit and couldn't understand what was going on.
        Sigh.

        The younger generation. :)

Brett'
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From:         CLARK@EVMSVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: 12:01 PM

From rufus t.:

>empower america - kemp '96

I get it now! Seeing as the republicans ruled over the great realignment of
wealth in America to a small privileged few, their '96 slogan makes sense!

"KEMP" doesn't just stand for Jack - it's a veiled slogan:

        "Keep Everybody Monetarily Poor"

Kinda nice to know they won't get the chance to implement it, isn't it?


-T.
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From:         MCW001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gennifer says
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        Gee, Ude, could that masculine voice on the tape be someone
trying to -oh, say- IMITATE Bubba #1's drawl?  Wow, what a concept,
someone re-editing a REAL conversation, taking trouble to mix in
a spurious SENSATIONALISTIC conversation... Not that the lure of
$$$$ from tabloids could possibly make anyone do something like
this... Certainly it couldn't tempt a bleached out, washed up local TV
personality/piano bar singer...
                                                Enjoy...
                                                Travlr
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From:         Jonathan Fisher <jfisher@NETXWEST.COM>
Subject:      Re: That hat
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>         Somebody shoot that hat designer!  Uuuuuuugly!
Since no one came to her defense (Hillary's), I must assume that I
am alone in saying that I liked her outfit, including her hat.
But for Brett's sake, I'll paraphrase the NYTimes.  "What was that
Blue UFO that landed on Hillary's head?"
>
> Brett'
> (Hillary's, of course)
>
Jonathan
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From:         Grzegorz Albinowski <caius@II.UJ.EDU.PL>
Organization: Institute of Computer Science, Jagellonian University Cracow
Subject:      Re: 12:01 PM
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              firefly" at Jan 22, 93 7:35 am

rufus t. firefly pisze:
>>    "republicans want to make everyone equally rich. democrats want to
>> make everyone equally poor."

What's the difference?

>> rtf

Caius.
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