From: hz225wu@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Micaela Pantke)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: A Darkover type circle
Followup-To: alt.pagan
Date: 18 Dec 1992 14:42:14 +0100
Organization: University of Duisburg
Reply-To: hz225wu@unidui.UUCP (Micaela "Stayka" Pantke)
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Summary: There are lot of things yet to be learned...
Keywords: aura, matrix, energies

Hi there - Stayka is here!

corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra) writes:
CM> (...) It's easy for me to understand the concept of "energons" and 
CM> of course it equates very well with the chakras. (...)
CM> What you've done is fascinating, and I, for one, would appreciate 
CM> hearing more about the work you and your circle are doing.

At the time we started with our circle, we didn't know much about the 
chakras, although nowadays I also think this comparison is admissible. 

WE checked the OVERALL energy field of the body, which appears to be
something like an 'envelope' covering every inch of a person. (Of
course it is logical, but there is a difference between reading about 
things like that and actually FEELING it to be true!)

This aura seems to be about 10 centimeters (4 inches) deep when not
disturbed and while the testperson is in a tranquil condition (Sigh,
I know that's a very inaccurate description, but I mean he/she/it
isn't agitated, nervous or something like that.) 

Dependent on the mental state of the testperson the feeling of the 
aura can vary broadly.  Someone who is exhausted has a deceidedly 
weaker energy field than someone 'fresh'.  A negative mood results 
in a 'cooler' field, while someone who  feels positive and happy 
has a warm, shining aura.  You might try it out by yourself with 
someone in your vicinity.  Just relax, get into alpha status (my 
dictionary lets me down - I mean the state of mind which is completely 
relaxed and open for faint expressions from the outside...  Well, I 
hope you understand what I'm trying to tell.) and let your hands glide 
over your testperson's body (the distance you have to determine for 
yourself, I'd say about 10cm/4in).  Try to get a feeling for the 
sensations you get.  Most of you should be able to get distinct 
impressions. 

I cannot give a recipe that works for everyone at every time, and 
there is the possibilty that there are people who have their sensing
abilities too deeply buried within them to feel anything (my mother
is one of those sad cases). But I'm not quite sure if they rather 
prefer to inhibit their talents than to face the possibility that 
there are  psychic powers science has yet to explain that might 
shatter their accustomed world view.  <-- What a sentence... :-)

The most interesting thing was when we worked with a Monitor (2) who
watched over the Monitor (1) feeling the testperson's aura. (2) felt
completely the same warmth/coldness/strength of the field (1) felt
when checking the testperson. It was just as if the field of the 
testperson flowed through (1)! This worked even with a third Monitor
checking (2). We were fascinated. 

Another interesting thing we noted - although I'm declined to call
it mere coincidence - was the fact that the sky above our circle 
always was completely clear - even when all around there were thick 
clouds.  We discussed this phenomenon, and one possible solution was 
that we  built an energy cone strong enough to do this.  But it's 
just a  hypothesis and bases on nothing but observation on several 
times we worked together - and it still could be a natural phenomenon. 

Is there anybody out there who noted a similar occurence?

CM> (...) Danke schoen.

You honor me by using German phrases. Thank you! (Deep bow)
I wish you a blessed winter solstice - may the return of light fill
you with love and energy, Corun!

alizard@pil writes:
AL> (...) Is it conceivable that using semiconductor technology, we 
AL> could create our own artificial matrix crystals (for the non- 
AL> Marion Zimmer Bradley readers on alt.pagan, a matrix is a crystalline 
AL> structure that amplifies psychic energy) ... by writing the right 
AL> patterns onto a chip?

First my sincerest apologies about having such a problem with Email
correspondence.  ;-{   *Sigh* 

The world is hard on poor maths students in Germany - although I thank
the powers beyond that I DO have net access!  Not everybody is even 
that fortunate... 

I find your idea most interesting. The only problem occuring to me is 
that we have yet to find a way to determine a working pattern. 

As I have read a book about brain patterns recently (I don't know the
title, it was lend to me by a medical doctor who specialised in sleep
problems), I noticed that there were only brain wave patterns concerning 
illnesses etc. 

I wonder if there is reliable data about brain wave patterns taken
during psi experiments.  And if yes - are they COMPLETE?  Complete in
the sense that EVERY activity of the brain was logged.  I honestly
wonder if today's brain wave patterns record every single bit of
activity in the brain or if there are also 'energies' involved which 
yet can't be measured at all. 

(I'm referring to a possibility of so-called psi energy.  Of course 
this may lead into the direction of fantasy/science-fiction, but in my 
humble opinion there are lots of things still to be discovered that in 
the moment are only dreamt of.  Well, in the distant past nobody knew 
the stuff of which a flash was made or the mysterious force that pulled 
a magnetic needle into north/south direction...)

At the moment I doubt that we have enough data about the workings of
the brain to determine which kind of pattern we might use to create an
artificial matrix. I sincerely hope that mankind is far more developped
than now WHEN (and I'm sure there will be the time...) we have the
means. The power of the mind is a far to horrible weapon when abused.
I think we shall be grateful that at the moment there is a lot of
discipline involved in mastering even a diminutive amount of our 
psychic abilities. This way the temptation to abuse these powers is
relatively small. 

AL> Something to think about...
AL>                                              A.Lizard

Indeed. I will continue this line of thought and try to get more
information about the workings of the brain. Fortunately I'm working
on a computer program for a psychologist which is about sampling 
physiological data (among other things brain waves...) from persons 
and I shall try to ask him (and his collegues) a bit more about such 
things...

Okay, I'll say bye-bye for now and may you all celebrate Winter 
Solstice / Yuletide in the fashion you like best and have a wonderful
time! 

Greetings to everybody on alt.pagan, especially Corun, Alizard, Dan,
Jaguar, Ceci, Scott, Mark, Steve, Ray + Eric!

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