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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: US Open - Men's Draw
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:22:09 GMT


Of course it is less appropriate to remove the unseeded players
from the men's draw because there tend to be a lot more upsets
among the men. But for the sake of readability, it looks like this:


             Courier (1) --------+
                                 |--------+
         J. McEnroe (16) --------+        |
                                          |--------+
              Costa (10) --------+        |        |
                                 |--------+        |
              Agassi (8) --------+                 |
                                                   |--------+
             Sampras (3) --------+                 |        |
                                 |--------+        |        |
             Forget (13) --------+        |        |        |
                                          |--------+        |
              Stich (11) --------+        |                 |
                                 |--------+                 |
          Ivanisevic (5) --------+                          |
                                                            +--------> Champion
               Korda (6) --------+                          |
                                 |--------+                 |
           Ferreira (12) --------+        |                 |
                                          |--------+        |
         Washington (14) --------+        |        |        |
                                 |--------+        |        |
               Chang (4) --------+                 |        |
                                                   |--------+
              Becker (7) --------+                 |
                                 |--------+        |
               Lendl (9) --------+        |        |
                                          |--------+
           Krajicek (15) --------+        |
                                 |--------+
              Edberg (2) --------+


Perhaps someone can help me on this. In the men's draw, there seems
to be a restriction that the top 2 seeds are paired up with #15 and #16
in the roudn of 16. (#1 could get either #15 or #16, which is determined
randomly.) The same is true between #3, #4 and #13 and #14, etc.
Again, the top 2 seeds are paired up with #7 and #8 in the quarter
final.

However, there is no such restriction in the women's draw; for example,
#1 Seles is supposed to get #10 Novotna in the round of 16 according
to the draw. Essentially, there is no difference being the #9 and
the #16 seed among the women as far as "draw difficulty" is concerned.

The French Open and Wimbledon have the same restriction too, for
the men, but not the Australian Open.
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From: phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: tennis babes
Keywords: legs!
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:44:56 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England


      hi,
	I've seen men with better legs than Sabatini, and
	in my opinion she walks like a man and doesn't look
	good off court. She also wears those long socks..  Yuk!
	No one holds a torch to Steffi!
	those legs... 
	  

	  she also not bad a tennis on her day.
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: US Open - Tuesday comments (spoilers)
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:06:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep2.045050.19437@src.umd.edu>, clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) w
rites:

[stuff deleted]
>
>   I caught some of the night matches.  I wish I could
>remember who Martina was playing.  Her name has slipped
>my mind.  Anyway, she is a baseliner, and all throughout
>the match she kept smiling and smiling, and I couldn't
>figure out why (other than her good play).  Then it
>dawned on me that she may have kept on smiling at her
>group of supporters.  It seems to include Scott Davis,
>or someone who looks a lot like him.  Boyfriend?  Husband?
>I dunno.   Martina looked shaky in this match.  She lost
>the first set 7-5.  Her opponent was able to pass her enough
>and press her enough with the groundies to bother Martina
>who has hitting poorly, making lots of errors.
>
>   Martina turned things around in the second set,  reducing
>her unforced errors and won that handily 6-1.  She then
>went up 5-1 on two service breaks (I think) and looked
>to have the match in hand.  Yet, she let things slip, and
>her opponent started passing better and hitting well,
>while Martina faltered.  The match was tied up at 5-all.
>Martina finally broke once again and was able to hold and
>prevent the upset.   She mentioned how it was unnerving to see
>her opponent smile so much (I mean she smiled a lot, any
>point she won passing or whatever made her happy).  Her opponent
>was a qualifier ranked about 160.
>
Martina's opponent was Shawn Stafford and Martina lost the first set 4-6.
Shawn (not sure of spelling) played very loose - nothing to lose, everything
to gain and has enough talent to give a top player a run for her money if
having an off day.  Supposedly, Scott Davis is Shawn's boyfriend.  I believe
Tracy Austin mentioned they got together during team tennis.  According to
Tracy who played team tennis with Shawn a few years ago, Shawn is normally
bubbly like that on the court.  Shawn was having a good time, some of her
shots were working, hey, she took a set from #3 in the world.  She had her
corner cheering for her and the crowd took to her like a typical New York
crowd - root for the underdog.  Contrary to what was mentioned on ESPN, Shawn
was not laughing at Martina, just having a good time and enjoying being on
stadium court.  Also on ESPN, they made it sound like the entire crowd was
against Martina because no one clapped immediately at the end of the match.  I
think the hesitation was not knowing if the last ball was played was on or
out, and, I think the crowd was enjoying WOMEN's tennis and wanted more.

Hopefully, this match woke Maritina up and gets her focused for the task at
hand.

>Charles Lin
>clin@eng.umd.edu
>
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From: haas@wam.umd.edu (The Future Mr. Graf)
Subject: Tennis Bitmaps For Windows
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:30:56 GMT

Hello again all!!

     Well, I'm back after a very long hiatus, and I thought that I 
would post my bitmaps again, if anyone is interested.

     I have scanned in a large number of player bitmaps for the
sun Sparcstations(all are B&W).  The are .XBM but can easily be
formatted to whatever form you want.  If you are interested in them, 
please send e-mail to HAAS@WAM.UMD.EDU and I will let you know how
to get them.  I have pictures of Graf, Sabatini, Becker, Agassi, 
Edberg, Seles, Frazier, Lendl, Annacone, and several others, whom
I've forgotten at the moment.  Also, I have a scanner, so if you 
are interested in any others, let me know.

     BTW, does anyone have the seeds for the Open?

                              Thanks...      Jeff

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From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Subject: ASYMMETRIC - opinions wanted.  I hate it so far!
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:07:08 GMT

What do you think of the Pro Kennex Asymmetric? I've played a few sets with
it and I think that it is horrible. It supposedly "creates opposing
oscillations which cancel each other out before they reach the arm". Is this
BS or what?! From my experience it AMPLIFIES the oscillations which are 
then cancelled by my wrist!!

Any feedback, here or e-mail would be appreciated.

mike
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From: marc@netlabs.com (Marc Church)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Opinions on Mizunos
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:20:21 GMT
Organization: NetLabs, Inc.

In article <1992Aug27.095854.10360@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>
>   Anybody ever tested a Mizuno?   It always seems that Lendl

[ text deleted ]

>   I have seen one of the Lendl Mizuno's, and it looks
>like the old Adidas (not that I ever saw that) in that
>it was very thick in the throat area, but it wasn't a
>demo racquet.
>
>--
>Charles Lin
>clin@eng.umd.edu

About a year ago I tried one of the mid-sized Mizunos, I think it was the
Pro 9.2 or something like that.  It apparently was available in three
stiffness ratings as indicated by the numbering scheme.  I liked the fact
that the racket was somewhat flexible, and it provided a fair amount of
and seemed more controllable than any of the wide bodies that I had tried.  
The Mizuno is sort of a pseudo-wide body.  What I didn't like was the overall
balance of the racket, which I just couldn't get used to.  So, I stayed 
with my Dunlop 200G.

Marc Church  marc@netlabs.com
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: ATP Rankings (was: US Open prediction)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:38:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.183000.4099@cs.brown.edu> PH412000@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>Providing they won't meet each other before semifinals, my semifinalists
>will be:
>
>Sampras,Edberg,Lendl, and Becker.
>
>Yes, no Agassi and Courier but they will have a chance if Lendl and Becker
>have to face Sampras and Edberg before semifinals.

I would say these are all reasonable choices.

As of August 24, 1992

1. Jim Courier, United States,         3,696
2. Stefan Edberg, Sweden,              3,503
3. Pete Sampras, United States,        3,116
4. Michael Chang, United States,       2,179
5. Goran Ivanisevic, Croatia,          2,154
6. Petr Korda, Czechoslovakia,         1,895
7. Boris Becker, Germany,              1,892
8. Andre Agassi, United States,        1,889
9. Ivan Lendl, United States,          1,873
10. Carlos Costa, Spain,               1,655
11. Michael Stich, Germany,            1,584
12. Wayne Ferreira, South Africa,      1,551
13. Guy Forget, France,                1,524
14. MaliVai Washington, United States, 1,523
15. Richard Krajicek, Netherlands,     1,385
16. Aaron Krickstein, United States,   1,379
17. Thomas Muster, Austria,            1,216
18. John McEnroe, United States,       1,210

Assuming that all the top guys are playing at the US Open,
the top 16 in the ranking will be the seeds because the US
Open usually doesn't manipulate the seeding. Therefore,
Lendl could potentially bump into one of the top seeds
in the round of 16, depending on the draw. Same for Becker
in the quarter final.

I would say all of the top 9 seeds are playing very well
in these days. However, I doubt that Chang, Ivanisevic,
and Korda will win it all. Moreover, there some dark horses
among the "lower" seeds. It really depends on who plays
the best and has some luck in the second week. I am not
sure that those having the best form coming into the US Open 
really means that much. Recall that two years ago, Edberg 
entered the US Open with a 21(?) match winning streak
and lost in the first round in straight sets?
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From: mirsip@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Ivan Popstefanija)
Subject: Re: 8 Re: ATP Rankings (was: US Open prediction)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:22:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.131952.19591@cs.brown.edu> PH412000@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>>|> Something fishy is going on here, without a doubt.
>>|> --
>
>>  Don't forget that the men's ranking only counts their best 14 results.
>>  This may account for the fishy-looking results.
>
>>Anne
>>----
>Yes, no a doubt there is something wrong with the points. There is no
>way that Korda's other 14 results are *all* better than his title at
>Volvo. Lendl played poorly all year till lately and this one has to be
>one of his best 14. By the way, the seeding at Hamlet may have confirmed
>that since Lendl is seeded 3rd and Korda seeded 4th.
>
>
>Quan

  You have to take into account that different tournaments are rated
differently. Some are worth more points, some of them less. Also from
year to year same tournament can be worth more or less points depending
who is present from the ranked players. 

 Ivan
From: adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Monday's Results
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:00:12 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun24.bbn.com

Results for seeded players:
---------------------------
  Seles(1) d. Keller
  Graf(2) d. Cioffi
  MJ Fernandez(7) d. Faber

  Stich(11) d. Delaitre
  Forget(13) d. Grabb
  Ivanisevic(5) d. Rosset 
  Courier(1) d. O'Brien


Today's Key Matches:
--------------------
  Becker(7) vs. Curren
  Agassi(8) vs. Pernfors
  Sampras(3) vs. DiLucia
  McEnroe(16) vs. Schapers

  Sabatini(4) vs. Harvey-Wild
  Capriati(6) vs. Muns-Jagerman
  Navratilova(3) vs. Stafford


Anne
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From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: One Way to Post a Spoiler
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:01:53 GMT

  On top of not mentioning the result on the subject line,
  you can also pre-empt dispoiling a spoiler by keying
  about 32 blank lines, prior to the actual text of the
  scores, like:

  WARNING:  The scores will appear after you see 32 empty lines!

















































    Connors beats McEnroe 7-6 7-6 7-6.  Hurray!


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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: US Open -  early Friday results (spoilers)
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:49:01 GMT

   No rain today!  By the way, I think I had the score flipped
with Gilbert v. Stich.  I think it was 7-5, 3-6, 6-3, 3-6, 7-6(7-0)
to Gilbert.   The Maleeva-Navratilova score was 6-4, 0-6, 6-3.

   Agassi played today against Roig.  Roig is from where is it?
Spain, maybe?  Anyway, he is a baseliner, who comes to net from 
time to time.  He was able to get in some rallies with Agassi,
and might have had a tighter match had he missed fewer shots.
It turned out to be fairly easy for Agassi.  The score was
something like 6-1, 6-2, 6-3.   Despite the rout,  Agassi
seemed to be missing a lot of shots.   I assume he wanted to
keep the pressure on, but ended up netting shots or hitting
them long.  Still, he was probably getting 60% in to 40%
misses when he went for it, so he never lost a whole string
of points.  It was like he would get one in, then miss, then
get one in.  That kind of thing.

   In the Grandstand, next door, Chang was doing what Chang does
best.  He made a lot of remarkable gets frustrating Patrick
McEnroe (who seems to have longer hair now, compared to last
year, looking a bit like Krickstein).  I saw only the first
two sets which he took, 6-3, 6-3.  McEnroe wasn't playing that
badly, but Chang seemed to run down a lot of shots, and
McEnroe had lapses where he would knock the ball out in
a rally with Chang.  I assume Chang went on to win it.

   Sabatini played Zvereva.  Last score I saw was 6-4, 5-all,
with Zvereva breaking to tie it at 5-all.   Also, Becker fans
should hav gone to the Open today since he was on an outer 
court.  Yes!  Due to the rain, and perhaps the perceived popularity
of Agassi or Sampras, Becker played on an outer court.  Didn't
here results.

   Forget also played on an out court against Gustafson (or some
Swede).  Forget lost the first set (6-4 I think) then took
the second 6-1, then the third went to a tiebreaker, where
Forget won it 12-10 or something like that.  Despite Forget's
ability to play good tennis, he seems to lack the mental
ability to hang into points.  He makes a lot of errors
on groundstrokes, sometimes at very critical points.  He
was serving pretty well, so it seems, with 17 aces by the
third set.  They televised a few games here and there,
mostly showing Agassi or Chang/McEnroe.   

   Sampras is also supposed to play today sometime.

   Tonight they should have Seles, and Lendl-Connors.  USA
network provides live coverage starting at 7:30 PM EST, and
the Connors-Lendl match should probably start by 9.  Sooner
if Seles starts and has an easy time.  CBS will take
over at 11:30 if it runs that long and will carry it to
completion.  

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Thursday's Key Matches
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:27:15 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun24.bbn.com

Courier(1) vs. Chesnokov  (Jim is 0-5 lifetime against Andrei)
McEnroe(16) vs. Nargiso
Agassi(8) vs. Roig
Stich(11) vs. Brad Gilbert
Sampras(3) vs. Damm
Ivanisevic(5) vs. Lavalle

Navratilova(3) vs. Maggie Maleeva
Graf(2) vs. Shriver

Anne
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From: PH412000@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: Re: U.S. Open Seedings
Organization: Brown University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:01:57 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>who was passed up by #18 McEnroe for the seedings. McEnroe only trails Muster
>by 6 points,and is certain to pass Muster in the rankings that will come
>out next Monday.
How? Is McEnroe playing this week? By the way, Muster is playing at
Croatia Open this week(is it a ATP tourney?). I am pretty sure
Lendl will pass Agassi (maybe Becker too) by next Monday so why
don't USTA seeds Lendl at top 8? Is there a double standard here
or to prevent McEnroe from tipping over a Camera or whatever?:-)

>"It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once." David Hume

>|||  clc5q@virginia.edu (Clark L. Coleman)

It looks like your theory about the ranking points is right.

Quan
From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: URGENT - US Open Ticket !!!
Keywords: Ticket, US Open, Early rounnds
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:08:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <Aug.26.11.51.58.1992.13754@pepper.rutgers.edu> probal@pepper.rutgers.edu (Probal Kumar Bhattacharjya) writes:

>	I was planning to go and watch US Open this year at least for
>one day. I got tired of calling Ticket Master and finding it busy. Is
>there any way to get ticket on the spot or from some other source( may 
>be at higher price )? 

Yes, Ticket Master is hard to get through, and I am not sure
that they have any tickets left anyway. It obviously doesn't
hurt to call.

Virous "ticket agencies" have tickets available at a higher cost.
Certain tennis magazines have ads for them. One can also purchase
tickets from scalpers on the spot. Make sure that you bring some
cash with you though. :-(  Last year, the ticket office had some
evening session tickets left, but don't count on that if Jimmy
is playing. :-)
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From: dlee@iti.gov.sg (Dennis Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Update on Connecticut Tournament?
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:44:18 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.

So, what happened to M.Washington and the other semifinal with

Lendl and Edberg playing?



Sorry, Becker-heads, he lost to Sampras, who eventually beat Courier

6-4, 6-4.  Was courier really off-form or Sampras too hot these days to

handle?



Thanks,

>Dennis.
From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Trivia of interest-- Borg
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:55:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Sep4.155501.13502
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

In article <graham.715605044@galois> graham@maths.su.oz.au (Graham Matthews) writes:
>(Charles Lin) writes:
##The five setter that most people associate with McEnroe
##and Borg was in the 1980 Wimbledon finals.  McEnroe won the
##tiebreak in the fourth set by the score of 18-16.  Borg
##lost the last point in that tiebreak by failing to make
##a drop volley clear the net.  Borg went on to win the
##fifth set 8-6, and his fifth consecutive Wimbledon title.
>
>Small correction. Borg won the last set 6-4 I think.

The score was 1-6, 7-5, 6-3, 6-7, 8-6.

From the 1991 ATP Player Guide.
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From: davidj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (David J. Wong)
Subject: Prince synthetic 16
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:41:15 GMT

I need info. re: Prince synthetic gut 16.

Would anybody with experience using this string give me their findings
using it, good & bad.

I have a prince precision 90 racquet and used TOA gold for the last
2 years. I have no real problems with the TOA, seemed to hold up ok
for twice a week play with average ability.

However, I have met a stringer who insists I should use the prince 
synthetic gut 16.

Any thoughts?...

Thanks in advance.

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From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Tennessee Tennis
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:28:03 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

Did anyone notice the massive slam TN took in the pairings (women's)?
Two players in; they draw #1 and #2 in the 128's: literally an 8000-1 shot.
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: U.S. Open Seedings
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:28:42 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Aug26.191903.23932@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, clc5q@uvacs.cs.Vir
ginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman) writes:
>
>Women's Seedings
>----------------
>1. Monica Seles
>2. Steffi Graf
>3. Martina Navratilova
>4. Gabriela Sabatini
>5. Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario
>6. Jennifer Capriati
>7. Mary Joe Fernandez
>8. Conchita Martinez
>9. Manuela Maleeva-Fragniere
>10. Jana Novotna
>11. Anke Huber
>12. Nathalie Tauziat
>13. Helena Sukova
>14. Zina Garrison
>15. Katerina Maleeva
>16. Mary Pierce
>
>
>This is the first #1 seed at the Open for Seles, and also the first for
>Jim Courier.
>
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>|||  clc5q@virginia.edu (Clark L. Coleman)
>

Wasn't Monica seeded #1 last year, too?  I believe she was numero uno in the
world then also.
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From: eddie@chpc.utexas.edu (Eddie Hedges)
Subject: Commentors 
Keywords: for the US Open
 Charles lobbed a comment about Vitas Gerulaitis giving commentary
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:01:37 GMT

and others. Two others will be John McEnroe and Tracy Austin.
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