From: lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Will someone tell me the truth?
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:23:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.

In article <1992Sep3.211655.19127@sequent.com>, bills@sequent.com (Bill Sears) writes:
> 
> Here I've been reading these newsgroups for almost 2 months so that I can
> get some idea of what the qualifications that each of our candidates have
> to do the job of President.  Here's what I've seen so far:
> 
>     Clinton has raised taxes 128 times to Bush's 1 time.  And that's the
>     truth.
> 
>     The truth is that Clinton only raised taxes 40 times in his ten years
>     as Governor while Bush has raised taxes 132 times in four years as
>     President.
> 
>     But the real truth is that Clinton actually lowered taxes 40 times,
>     while Bush has had the largest tax increase ever.
> 
>     But that's a bald face lie.  Bush has actually lowered taxes in his
>     term as President.  _That's_ the truth.
> 
> Another thing I've seen:
> 
>     Bush has never balanced the budget.  The deficit keeps increasing and
>     the debt has doubled in less than four years.  That's the truth.
> 
>     The truth is that congress is the body which actually creates the budget,
>     and the congress is controlled by the democrats.
> 
>     But the real truth is that the President has never even submitted a
>     balanced budget to the congress for consideration, so it's his fault.
> 
>     But that's a lie.  The President doesn't have the power to submit any
>     piece of legislation to congress.
> 
> Let's see what else:
> 
>     We have Bush and the fetal tissue research bill.  He has and will continue
>     to veto legislation allowing researchers to use fetal tissue in research
>     for a cure for several diseases.  That's the truth.
> 
>     The truth is that the Bush administration fully supports government
>     funded fetal tissue research for these diseases.
> 
>     But the real truth is that only tissue from spontaneous abortions
>     (i.e. miscarriages) and medically necessary abortions can be used in
>     government funded research.
> 
>     That's a damn lie.  Researchers can use any fetal tissue that is
>     provided in disease research.
> 
> The list goes on and on.  How can there be so many diametrically opposed
> "truths" to these questions.  If I ask you a "yes or no" question, there
> should only be two possible mutually exclusive answers (i.e. "yes" or
> "no" :-).  But it seems that there are always people who know that the
> correct answer to the question is "yes" and others who are certain that
> the correct answer to the question is "no".  It can't be both ways, can it?
> 
> For example:
>     Who raised taxes more often?  There should be only one answer.  There
>     should be one number associated with GHWB, and one number associated
>     with BC.  Is GHWB > BC or vice versa?
> 
> So would someone please tell me the "real(tm) truth"?
> 
>   bills
> --------
> Bill Sears            Sequent Computer Systems            bills@sequent.com
> 
> While a transcendant vocabulary is laudable, one must be eternally careful
> to ensure that the calculated objective of the communication does not become
> ensconsed in obscurity.  Stated simply, it is invariably preferable to 
> eschew obfuscation.                                           - Unknown
> 
> 

I understand your frustrations completely. That is why I have been trying
to convince people like yourself to ignore most of the rhetoric, go to the
libraries, read the government and private reports on various issues, and
decide the truth based on the records of the candidates.

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
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