Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:25:22 -0600
Reply-To:     varnavas constantine <varnavas@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
From:         varnavas constantine <varnavas@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: SOMALIA
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.bitnet

Grafei o Petros:

>Grafei o Varnavas:

>>Einai merikes axies pou einai pagkosmies, kai h an0rwpothta exei oxi mono
>>dikaiwma, all kai upoxrewsh na tis epibalei.  Ta paradeigmata pou grafeis
>>pio panw paraviazoun tetoies axies, ta diakaiwmata sthn zwh kai sthn axio-
>>prepeia.  Autes einai pana0rwpines axies, oxi mono "dutikes".

>Twra upo auto to fws pou erikses stnv upo0esn 0a n0ela va mou eksngnseis pws
>stekei n Ellnvikn epimovn kai to "veto" ws pros to ovoma pou dialegouv oi
>Skopiavoi...idiws eav laboume upopsn oti n suvexisn twv parembolwv pou
>rixvoume sto 0ema tns omalopoinsns tns katastasns stnv Yougo, me tnv epimovn ma
s
>epi tou ovomatos, mporei va prokalesei askopo 0avato kata xiliades (blepeis
>ti givetai stnv Bosvia) kai skopiavwv, kai isws ellnvwv...H mnpws otav givetai
>challenged n magkia mas tote "axies pou einai pagkosmies," opws p.x. n av0rwpiv
n
>zwn, go out the window ?

>>Sebomai tis diafores coultoures an ton kosmo.  O sebasmos mou omws stamata
>>ekei pou stamata o sebasmos twn an0rwpinwn dikaiwmatwn - pagkosmies axies
>>kai oxi Eurocentric.

>M'areseis re megale, otav omws erxomaste sto dikaiwma autoprosdiorismou twv
>boreiwv geitovwv mas tote arxizoume tis mavteies peri mellovtikwv apaitnsewv
>twv Skopiavwv stnv Boreio Ellada...

>Petros (San Antonio)

Kat' arxhn den katalvainw ti sxesh exei h apanthsh sou me to arxiko mhnuma
mou.  Egw grafw gia thn Somalia kai esu apantas gia thn Macedonia!  Epi pleon
kaneis orismenes (la0os) paradoxes gia tis 0eseis mou sto 0ema ths Macedonias.
Telos pantwn, agnow ta parapanw kai sou apantw.

Milas gia to "dikaiwma autoprosdiorismou twv boreiwv geitovwv mas".  Nai,
oi boreioi geitones mas exoun dikaiwma autoprosdiorismou, oxi omws eis
baros ths Elladas.  Ex' allou, kata thn gnwmh mou, to onoma den einai to
empodio stis sxeseis metaxy "M" kai Elladas.  Einai ola ta alla ("Makedonikh
meionothta", edafikes blepseis, kloph politistikhs kai istorikhs klhronomias).
An esu den ta blepeis auta h' arneisai na ta deis, dikaiwma sou.
To onoma sunepagetai ola auta.  An htan mono to onoma, h Ellada 0a eixe
problhmata me tis mises xwres tou kosmou pou xrhsimopoioun Ellhnika onomata
gia toponumia!  Nai, oi axies pou anafera einai pagkosmies.
Kai den prepei na ginetai kammia exairesh oson afora thn "M" h' opoiodhpote
allo e0niko (ellhniko) problhma.  Anagnwrish ths "M" me to onoma Macedonia
paraviazei ta dikaiwmata twn Ellhnwn sthn istorikh kai politistikh tous
klhronomia, isws kai sthn adafikh akeraiothta ths xwras tous.  Ta dikaiwmata
ths "M" stamatoun ekei pou arxizoun ta dikaiwmata ths Elladas.  Ara den
vlepw tipote to paradoxo sthn sugkrish pou prospa0eis na kaneis.

Milas epishs gia thn "omalopoinsns tns katastasns stnv Yougo".  Nomizeis
esu oti me to na anagnwristei h "M" me to onoma "Macedonia" 0a omalopoihsh
thn katastash h' 0a apotrepsei ton polemo?  Des ti egine sthn Bosnia me thn
biastikh ths anagnwrish.  Poia h apodeixh oti den 0a ginoun ta idia kai
xeirotera sthn "M"?  Kai epishs oson afora thn Ellada poia h apodeixh oti
se 10, 20, 50, 100 xronia h "M" den 0a exei edafikes apaithseis apo thn
Ellada?  Mia anagnwrish den 0a lusei problhmata - 0a dhmiourghsei kainourgia.

Oson afora to an h epimonh ths Elladas 0a prokalesei ton 0anato xiliadwn
an0rwpwn, 0a htan blakeia ek merous ths Elladas na emplakei se polemo,
katw apo opoiesdhpote peristaseis, ektos kai an dextei prwth epi0esh.  Den
exei tipote na kerdisei kai polla na xasei.  Kai akomh pio shmantiko, giati
den einai h0ika swsto.  Se prohgoumeno mail mou pou esteila prin liges meres
(den emfanisthke akoma giati to esteila apo to news reader kai to katapie o
feeder) grafw gia auto to 0ema.  Opws h "M" den exei to dikaiwma na katapatei
ta dikaiwmata ths Elladas etsi kai h Ellada den exei to dikaiwma na katapatei
ta dikaiwmata ths "M".  H diafora mas einai oti egw pistevw oti h Ellada
den katapatei kanenos ta dikaiwmata me thn epimonh ths - aplws prostatevei
ta dika ths.

Constantinos Varnavas
University of Illinois
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