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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:42:00 MDT
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From:         Rob_Rawson@NOVELL.COM
Subject:      Re: Novell 3.11

There is DEFINITELY no way to simply convert the encrypted passwords during
an upgrade from NetWare 2.x to NetWare 3.x. The encryption algorithm
discards part of the password so that mathematically, if you could decrypt
the password, there would be no unique solution to the equation.

However, some people have emulated the mechanism reccomended when you
install NetWare Name Service. NNS maintains TWO copies of the password in
the bindery. One is the normal one-way encryption used by the NetWare OS,
and the second is an RSA public-key/private-key encryption. The second one
can be decrypted by a person with the DOMAIN password, allowing new servers
to be added to the domain and have their passwords synchronized to the
existing domain participants. When a user first successfully logs in, the
LOGIN.EXE program detects that there is no second copy of the password, and
encrypts the password with the PUBLIC key and stores it in the bindery as
another property of the user object. The idea then is to leave the
utilities in place on the first server, gather in all the passwords you can
before adding the server to a domain.

I have run into people who create a similar type of utility for gathering
passwords in advance of an upgrade. However, I would suggest that from a
security perspective this is a very dangerous mechanism unless you can
secure the passwords with a system like RSA.

Rob Rawson
Novell NYC
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From:         "Harold J. Bruce" <HB01@SWTEXAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Packet Drivers

Fellow Novell(ers):

        I am looking for packet drivers for the NE2000 and NE2100 thinwire
        ethernet card.  We have just received a new version of Grateful
        Med that uses NCSA Telnet....which MUST use packet drivers.  Are
        there any FTP sites out there that contain these packet drivers?

Thanx in advance,

Harold Bruce
Computer Resource Director
School of Health Professions
Southwest Texas State University
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From:         Paul Deveau <PED8C@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      NetWare Lite and shared modems

Hi:

Do any of you know how to share a modem on a NetWare Lite (V1.1) network?
By this I mean having the modem connected to a server and allowing all
clients to use the modem (not all at the same time of course).

Thanks,

Paul
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From:         Szymon Sokol <SZYMON@UCINVL.UCI.AGH.EDU.PL>
Subject:      Re: Automating Netware Logins

> From:         wolfgang.roeckelein@SOWI.UNI-BAMBERG.DBP.DE
> Well, if you are not interested in security, why not use an accoutn without
> an password? You can do just LOGIN SERVER/NAME for this.

Well, there is one reason: if someone (like me) wants to log in *automatically*
from one trusted station (at the office), but still be able to log in from
anywhere - with password (because "anywhere" may be in students' lab...).
If you want to log in from one secure place only, the better way is to restrict
logins for the account to this one station and remove the password.


                                   Szymon Sokol
                                   Network Manager

     U     U  M     M  M     M     Computer Center
     U     U  MM   MM  MM   MM     University of Mining and Metallurgy
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      UUUUU   M     M  M     M     TEL/FAX +48 12 338907
From: MKA@LUURI.HUT.FI (Markku Kaukinen)
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I tried this and couldn't get it work correctly. Despite of what timezone
setting I used, it always wanted to change time to GMT+4.


    -- Markku


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From:         GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: marknet and relnet

You can find version 3.4 of these dated 12 March 92 at wuarchive.wustl.edu
in the mirrors/msdos/sysutl directory as tsrcom34.zip. I haven't used the
marknet/relnet pair of these utilities but I do find the mark/release pair
more reliable on Novell that previous versions


Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
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From:         Szymon Sokol <SZYMON@UCINVL.UCI.AGH.EDU.PL>
Subject:      Re: Bootp/rarp/novell

>         At your own risk, there is a NW 3.11 based RARP daemon, written as
> an unofficial and unsupported aid by Don Provan of Novell. The master copy
> should be on his file server sjf-lwp.corp.sjf.novell.com, and a copy is
> also on netlab2.usu.edu, cd misc. Some folks have commented they experience
> side effects from it, but it has worked ok on my server when tested now
> and then.
>         Bootpfwd needs no docs. The only control is placing the Internet
> number of the Bootp server on the LOAD BOOTPFWD    line. It too is unofficial
> and unsupported, and another Don P. special.
>         Joe D.

I have just hit the same obstacle: I am going to establish a Novell lab
connected to the second Ethernet card in the server. Our nameserver, which
provides RARP resolution for PCs, is on the first subnet. RARP request from
the second subnet are not forwarded to the first one (yes, I have set
the server to route IP - but RARP request are not routable, as far as I know).
Rather than a separate RARP server on Novell server, I would like to have
RARP requests forwarded through the server to the first subnet. Is there
any way of doing this??


                                   Szymon Sokol
                                   Network Manager

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From:         Sue McFarland <MCFARLAND@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      DEC Lan Driver for Etherworks

Hi,

We have a bunch of DEC PCs with Etherworks NICS.

We have located the packet driver for the card but are now in search
of a LAN driver.

Is anyone out there using an Etherworks card in their server?  If so,
what file are you using to configure this card.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Sue
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Subject: Sys out of space when printing.
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Dear Novellites,

We are printing 8 meg files over the network and we are receiving messages that
tell us the sys is running out of disk space.  The sys volume is 30 megs and
around 10 is left.
We are printing from CorelDraw within windows (which is on the network).  Our
Netware version is 3.1 Rev. A.

What I would like to know is if it is possible to reassign another volume to be
used as a temporary disk for print spooling.



Thanks in Advance,

Jeff Honsowetz
Honsowet@CWU
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Create a group called group_mail.
Members of this group will be allowed to send mail to groups.

Netman,
From: HENNO@ZEUS.ICE.NL (Henno Keers)
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Hello everybody...

I have a small but painfull problem.
One of my users is using ami-pro 3.0 under windows 3.1 with the
windows 3.1 netware toolkit and is getting the following problem:
The 'j' is missing on every sheet that he prints on our hp laserjet
series II. This printer is hooked up to our server and is driven by
the print-server nlm.
I've tried the following things without reveal:
- Updated pserver.nlm from 1.22 to 1.26
- Checked the 'standard' form with printdef. it's 66x80.
- Checked job config's with printcon.

I tried one thing that seemed to help, it told pserver not to serve
the queue (using pconsole) and waited til ami had printed all its
stuff in there.
The I changed (manually) the contents from text to byte-stream.
This was the only time when the printing worked.
Is there any way to set this from ami-pro or windows ??

Greetings...

Henno.

Henno H.J.F. Keers                              henno@zeus.ice.nl
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:35:11 CDT
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From:         "(Michael Masterson)" <mmaster@PARNASUS.DELL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bindery Closed Message

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>I think that open close comes from accessing syscon and looking at user info
>or editing user info.  When I was over there at noonish, I was doing those
>things.

nope, if you close the bindery, you can't access it, the only time it
can be accessed (like any file) is when it's open.
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Subject: Garbage on printouts if printer off or offline
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:59:37 GMT
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     We switched from IBM PC LAN to Novell 3.11 and almost every-
thing has gone flawlessly. So much easier to manage something thats
managable.
    I still have one problem that I have yet to track down. We're
using three printers attached directly to the server(1 parallel,
2 serial) running PServer Ver 1.2.1. All three printers will
print garbage if the printer is off or placed offline during the
print job. This hasen't caused large amounts of problems since the
printers are almost always on. But they usually run out of paper in
the middle of print jobs(as most good little printers will do).
    More than likely the problems right under my nose, but I sure
can't seem to find it.
                               Thanks
                                 James

James Poe
Jacksonville State Univ.
DJP1@JSUMUS
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>Hi Networkers,
>
>Does anybody know how to control the printing of the number of pages
>allowed for an account on a netware 3.11 ?
>
>example : Mr MARTIN is allowed to print 100 Pages on a specific printer
>he asks for a print job of 120 pages ; Netware hold the job.
>
>Thanks for any suggesions.
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        NetWare itself has no concept of printer pages. There are some
third party free/shareware programs on the net which attempt coping with
Postscript files for HP Laserjets (see splicer.cba.hawaii.edu, so says
my memory).
        Joe D.
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From:         "(CPC)" <CPC.SYSTEMS@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Networked CD-ROM Recommen

To: NOVELL

Hi,

I think the network CD ROM question has become FAQ?  I haven't check
lately, but has it been added?

My recommendation is SCSI Express and CD Drives on the file server.  You
get great performance and all the features of NetWare like security and
caching.  AND you do not need MSCDEX to use them! That saves valuable
memory which is especially important if you are using Windows and want to
run DOS apps.  The drives we purchased are Toshiba drives packaged in
LaserBank towers by MDI, the company that wrote SCSI Express.  We also
purchased  Microchannel Bustek Adapter Cards to connect the drives to on
our server.

Just drop me a line if you need more specifics.

Carolyn Churchill
cpc.systems@mhs.unc.edu
cpc@unc.bitnet
(919) 962-2435

"GO WOLFPACK!!" - I just work here.  NCSU '84
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From:         CIOFFI@FAIR1.BITNET
Subject:      Fiber Boards

I have been asked to put together some info on Fiber Network Adapter boards.
If you have any experiences, or even opinions you would like to share with
me, please respond directly. I will share my results with the Net when I
complete the study.

Thank you,

Michael Cioffi
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From:         Brad Clements <BKC@DRACO.ERC.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Something else to worry about....

Its true, an NLM can do anything it wants to.

However, writing an NLM is expensive, takes time, etc. After all that
effort its unlikely that such an NLM would go uncredited, even if
it is free.

--

At a recent users group meeting I presented a session on writing NLMs
for NW386. After the session, a concerned individual asked me if there
was such a thing as a virus for NLMs. At this time, I do not know
of such a virus, but it is technically possible to develop one, even
for NW386. Why one would bother, I do not know.

I told her that the most likely thing one would see would be a trojan
horse program, exactly like what Mr. Monroe described.

So, don't panic thinking about it, but always be cautious when its
your system.


|Brad Clements, CCP        bkc@draco.erc.clarkson.edu      (315)268-2292
|Sr. Network Engineer      Clarkson University             Potsdam, NY USA
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From:         Richard Moeskops <Gremlin@HSE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Information on USERID utilities

In message of  9 Oct 92 08:12:40 EDT, Yoke, Charles said:
>
>We are looking for ways to do the following:
>1.  Generate a list of all users listed in the bindery (USERLIST only
>    lists logged-in users, we want a list of all users.) We would like
>    to be able to do this from the dos prompt.
>
I found a little program called 'USERS'. You can use Archie to search for it;
user 'prog users.zip' or I could send it directly uuencoded to you.



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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: General Packet Driver Info Requested

>
>Hello,
>
>    Can someone refer me to a paper, report, book, etc. which describes
>the basic concepts and processes involved w/packet drivers.  We have
>just started using Novell 3.11 and have heard much about "packet drivers"
>but I don't have a firm understanding of the basic concepts involved w/their
>use.  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you,
>
>Mark D. McKamey
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>DSN PHONE #:   793-0540                               Rock Island, IL
>COMMERCIAL PHONE #: (309) 782-0540                    61299-7210
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        I can think of three references:
        packet_d.109            the PD spec itself, version 1.09
        packet.doc              "Packet Drivers Made Simple" short intro by me
        "Packet Drivers"        John Romkey, Byte Magazine, May 1991. The
                                scoop by the fellow who invented the idea.
        Digest.txt              Kermit digest vol 14, number 5, Sept 1991.
                                Some history and perspective.
The first two files are part of the Packet Driver collection (aka Crynwr
Collection, ne Clarkson Collection) and those are found on many machines,
for example: wsmr-simtel20.army.mil, watsun.cc.columbia.edu, netlab2.usu.edu,
vax.ftp.com (FTP Inc, home of the PD spec). The last file contains a longish
discourse on packet multiplexers from a user's perspective; it is on netlab2,
cd misc.
        Overall, their use and the ideas behind them are carried mostly in
our heads and mail archives, as part of our technology toolbox. The companion
concepts are NDIS, spec available on ftp.vax.com, and ODI, specs available
on NetWire (Compuserve), ftp.is.sandy.novell.com, sjf-lwp.corp.sjf.novell.com,
netlab2.usu.edu, and others. Both of the latter specs are dense technical
manuals without an easy to read general outline, though the ODI manuals are
nicely written and illustrated.
        All three specs have a primary goal of separating details of the
lan adapter from the higher levels of the protocol stack software so that
different hardware can be used with the same software. A consequence is they
can also support multiple non-competing protocol stacks, which is where the
user interest arises.
        Joe D.
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From:         "Russell Aminzade: Trinity College of VT" <AMINZADE@UVMVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "Server Not Found" problems

I'm embarrassed to ask this but how do you "ground the terminator at
one end."  Just a wire to bldg ground from the barrell connector?
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From:         Rick Ellis <rick@OFA123.FIDONET.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Bindery Closed Message

Gary Miller writes:

 GM> I think that open close comes from accessing syscon and looking at user
 GM> info or editing user info.  When I was over there at noonish, I was
 GM> doing those things.

Syscon doesn't close the bindery to edit user info.
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ok, I admit it, I had never built system login script from scratch.
Well before today at least. Now that I am no longer a syscon virgin
whats the possibility of sharing the tricks of "cutting", "copying",
and "pasting", and whatever else can be done within the login script
editor. I did stumble across the "mark" key but couldn't find the
"end mark" key or whatever. Who knows what these things are, and
in what book can one find them. I know that they are not prominently
displayed as part of the online folio help system.


Thanks in advance
rick,

thanks for the offer, I do believe that I have found FIRMLOAD.COM
on the Novell diskettes... Now if I could only find documentation
on how to use it :-)

thanks!

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