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From: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Trade rules
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:39:27 GMT
Reply-To: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
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In article <17gn13INNacr@agate.berkeley.edu> hankwong@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Y. Wong) writes:
>>managers have pointed out that this has a great deal of potential for
>>abuse, and I think they are 100% correct.
>	Ban such trades.  In our league, there is an (unwritten) rule that a
>traded player may not be traded back to his original team for a period of 
>thirty days.  Temporary trades simply create too much potential for abuse.

In our league (Ultra) there  is a written rule that no player traded away
may be traded back to that team the rest of the season.  It's a year to
year league though,  and in the perpetual league with many of the same
people they had this problem where two guys did a trade like that last
year, and then reversed it this year.  It was a very unbalanced trade
both years (opposite directions) and both times benefited the team in
contention...  Needless to say, I'm not in that league any more.
-- 
"In nature there are no rewards or punishments, only consequences"

Asya Kamsky	      e-mail: asya@ux5.lbl.gov                   Go Red Sox
"In order to command you must first learn to submit" - chinese fortune cookie
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From: stevea@microsoft.com (Steve Albertson)
Subject: Winter League games in Venezuela
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:04:33 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

I'm planning a trip to Venezuela in mid-January to attend as many
Winter League baseball games as I can in a 3-week period.  I have
the addresses to write for more info about schedules in the various
cities, etc., but I would appreciate hearing from anyone who may have
made such a trip in the past.  Factual info, anecdotes, tips, etc. would
all be welcome.

Thanks,
Steve
stevea@microsoft.com
From: hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Positioning of netters in hypothetical baseball games.
Keywords: Dove Bar, Hrbek, Yummy, Fielder's Choice=Pizza.
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:56:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2nIB.K46
Distribution: na
Organization: NSSL

In article <16769@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Under The Gun Huckabay) writes:
>Val writes:
>>In article <Bu17D3.AFv@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma) writes:
>>>
>>>Niguma    		2B 
>>>Nelson Lu 		CF 
>>>Valentine  		C 
>>>Lance Smith		3B
>>>Sherri Nichols    	SS
>>>David Tate		1B
>>>Steve Stein		LF
>>>David Grabiner	RF
>>>Gary Huckabay		 P
>>
>>Why does everybody put me at catcher?  Are you implying that I am
>>short and squat?  Do you figure it to be the least critical position
>>for slow-pitch softball?  Or is it that you want to see me in one
>>of my famous home-plate collisions?
>
>I did it because masks, like Harold Brooks' thighs, are inherently
>erotic.  Sorta.  Ok, well, maybe not.  That's what Kirsch told me.
>

OK, Huckabay, you'd better clear this one up.  Does the "well, maybe
not" refer to masks or my thighs.  Answer carefully.  Your response
determines whether the threatening phone call you receive is from
my personal appearances manager, who will want a cut of the proceeds
from your PR work, or my ambulance-chasing lawyer, who will want a 
cut of the slander suit.  (The functional dependence of who will 
call on Huckabay's response is left as an exercise to the reader.)

Harold
-- 
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National Severe Storms Laboratory/CIMMS (Norman, OK)
Andres Galarraga (Through 2 September)  .242 BA  .376 SLG  .279 OBA
27 H from .300  4 H from .250  8 HBP  9 BB
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: A first on rsb?
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:59:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Sep2.175902.8088
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <BtwpCz.9Ls@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.064658.2561@newshost.anu.edu.au> gerry@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Gerry Myerson) writes:
>>In article <31AUG92.14181014@vax.clarku.edu>, hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>[...]
>>> A sportswriter friend of mine [...]
>>
>>I can't recall anyone on rsb admitting to having a sportswriter as a friend...
>>
>I can understand why. I'm one of the sports editors of the Indiana Daily 
>Student this semester, and half of the people that write for this section are
>total scrubs.  There are maybe two or three people on this whole staff with
>whom I'm friends, and one with whom I pal around on a regular basis.  If I've
>learned anything in the J-school here, it's that journalism is full of some
>really arrogant people -- this paper, especially.  Nobody wants to work
>together here; they just want to get their name in the paper and get paid for
>it.  Last time I checked, that was not what journalism was all about.
>
>
   Maybe it's an Indiana thing. I'm the sports editor at the UWM Post and have
   friends on my staff and the staff at our rival paper the UWM Times. Of
   course, except for my position all the work is volunteer (and with what I
   get paid it's pretty damn close to volunteer!)
>
   --salty

   p.s. Of course, I have run into my share of arrogant journalists also.
From: molly@uga.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Braves 15 to protect
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:55:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep3.133500.8347@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) writes:
>In article <1992Sep01.193031.12954@brtph560.bnr.ca>, dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025) writes:
>> Glavine
>> Smoltz
>> Avery
>> P Smith
>> Wholers
>> Nied
>> Gant
>> Justice
>> Mercker
>> Klesko
>> K Mitchell
>> M Nieves
>> Olson
>> D Sanders
>> Pendleton
>> 
>> Additions, Subtractions ?
>> 
>> 
>
>All I know is, if the Braves protect Wohlers, I'll scream.
>
>Javi Lopez (catcher) is a stud, by the way...

If the Braves protect Marvin Freeman, I will scream.

Molly
From: 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (roger maynard)
Subject: Re: Oh Cone-da!
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:43:36 GMT

In <8ebJS=q00awIM0uEkm@andrew.cmu.edu> Craig Steven Lyga <cl3l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>     I know the Mets probably weren't going to sign Cone because they
>wouldn't give him a five-year deal but they could have done better than

Is this correct?  If this is true then the Jays won't be able to sign him
again either.  They don't give players more than 3 year deals.

rm

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From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Subject: Kevin Mitchell
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:56:31 GMT

In article <5307@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:
>
>David Cone's pathetic debut, Kevin Mitchell's poor year and Gary Shefield's
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>sudden hitting prowes has brought an question to mind.  Has there been any 
>National League player that's been able to make the transition to the American 
>League with any degree of success?  In the last few years that is.   
>
>Paul
>-- 

You may not want to use Mitch's example for your argument.  Currently,
he is batting .280 with 9 HR and 66 RBI.  He is batting over .300
since May 1.  The RBI look respectable in light of his missing
nearly one month due to injuries.  His lack of HR power is
generally attributed to his nagging wrist injury, from which
he suffered last year, too.

Altogether, I am pretty satisfied with Mitch.  Too bad
he cannot pitch long relief.

-- 
| Eric Sieferman            |    sieferme@u.washington.edu          |
| U. of W., M.C.I.S.        |    (206) 685-3104                     |

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From: dave@silver.sni.ca (Dave Till)
Subject: Re: pitching question
Organization: Alas, The Wells Dried Up This Year...
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:54:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.030013.726@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.195226.15324@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, molly@uga.edu writes:
>> What does it mean when they say a pitcher has 14 decisions?  I am new fan of 
>> baseball.  Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> MR
>
>	I believe decisions = wins + losses + saves. I'm iffy about saves, but
>I believe they count.

The number of "decisions" is not an official stat, so there's no one correct
meaning.  I usually hear "decisions" used when talking about the records of
starting pitchers; in this context, "decisions" = "wins" + "losses" (since
starters don't get any saves).

You will also hear the term "no-decision" employed, referring to a game
in which the starting pitcher got neither the win nor the loss, as in:
"In his last five starts, Jack Morris has picked up three wins, one loss,
and one no-decision."
-- 
--Dave Till ("dave@silver.sni.ca", or try "dave@snitor.uucp"; as a last resort,
try "dwtill@watyew.waterloo.edu")  * My Canada includes the World Series. *
"Take it from me, a veteran.  The indicators of mental health in this country
are sleeping habits, hair length and beards." -- from *Whale Music*
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: re : A Question (DOUBLE SWITCHES explanation)
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:54:38 GMT

In article <Bu17D3.AFv@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma) writes:
>
>Niguma    		2B 
>Nelson Lu 		CF 
>Valentine  		C 
>Lance Smith		3B
>Sherri Nichols    	SS
>David Tate		1B
>Steve Stein		LF
>David Grabiner		RF
>Gary Huckabay		 P

Why does everybody put me at catcher?  Are you implying that I am
short and squat?  Do you figure it to be the least critical position
for slow-pitch softball?  Or is it that you want to see me in one
of my famous home-plate collisions?

>  I wonder if Cito Gaston knows what I just did.....

Somebody has gotta teach him about *single* switches before you get to
the complicated stuff.

Cheers,
-Valentine
-- 
Make outs, not walks!					tedward@cs.cornell.edu
Clemens four Cy Young!
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: So where have all the Mets fans gone?
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:05:59 GMT
Organization: Boo!  

In <92245.112248ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>  It really wasn't that long ago when the Mets were contenders and they
>were so loaded with talent down to the AA farm club that Mets fans (as
>well as the rest of the league) thought that they had a dynasty, a team
>that would win the championship for the next 3-4 years. What went wrong?
>  First of all, even when they were on top, they still had their faults.
>They weren't that great defensively and with the exception of Keith
>Hernandez, no one was a Gold Glove at their position. Davey Johnson
>never managed them well enough to really bring out the potential of the
>team. Other managers like Herzog and Lasorda had their teams bunting,
>moving the runners over, etc. manufacturing runs while Davey relied too
>much on the long ball which doesn't always come through.

Nonesense.  First off, Whitey Herzog's teams didn't sacrifice often,
didn't try to move runners often, etc.  His teams' offense centered
on the ability of players to get on base and the use of speed as a
substitute for power.  Just look at the Cardinals' yearly sacrifice
totals - nothing but average, except for the one or two years when their
offense collapsed.

Second, Davey Johnson's clubs consistently lead the league in runs
while playing half their games in an extreme pitchers' park.  The
Mets had the dominant offense in baseball over the '86 - '90 period,
and no other offense came close to acheiving the run production that
the Mets accomplished in those years.  His teams accomplished what
they did because of the offense, and when they didn't win it was
because of their mediocre defense and overrated pitching (as well as
some bad luck).

In fact, as years went on, I became a little annoyed with Davey because he
seemed to be reacting to media criticism by becoming a more conventional 
manager.  He began to sacrifice more, give more intentional walks etc. -
strategies that inevitably lead to losses.

Greg   

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 cmcl2!panix!spira      left field!  If it stays fair, it's gone!  Home Run!"  
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Whitestone NY 11357          (Insert your favorite baseball moment here) 
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From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Hasta Jose! - Trade Analysis
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:15:29 GMT


Analysis of Alderson's thought process - let's keep it short and sweet:

1. Looking at standings, realizes: A's have a great chance of winning  
pennant THIS year!

2. Looking at free agent list, realizes: A's have horrible chance of  
signing enough players to contend for the next couple of years.

3. Looking at Texas' offer, realizes: Sierra, Russell, and Witt will do  
more for the A's chances THIS year than Canseco, and, what's two more free  
agents when you already have 10+?

4. Done deal.


When you analyze this deal...don't waste your time thinking about what it  
means for the A's after October. Alderson didn't - with all the free  
agents the A's have, he has no idea....and neither do we. 

--
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:23 PDT
Subject: Re: Who'll win the NL MVP?
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug25.152832.2311@oz.plymout:295961269:cdp:1459000007:000:335
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!gan    Aug 26 08:23:00 1992


How 'bout Tommy Glavine.  Could post 25 victories and lead the 
Braves to another pennant?  Can a pitcher in the NL win the 
Cy and the MVP?  His 19-3 and ERA thus far is most impressive.

I'm rooting for Sheffield to win the Crown, but I don't think he
can hit enough homers down the stretch to take it.  

Diehard Red Sox fan,
Deane

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From: dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays 15
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 14:19:35 GMT

Olerud
Alomar
Gruber
D White
D Bell
E Sprague
R Knorr
J Guzman
Stotlemyre
Timlin
Ward
P Hentgen
E Zosky
P Borders
J Morris



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From: chee1l5@jetson.uh.edu (Sam Lane)
Subject: Re: Ugliest Man in Baseball??
Organization: Univ. of Houston, Dept. of Chem. Eng.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:15:36 GMT

Call it Willie McGee and Chris Sabo in a photo finish.

Sam
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From: dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane)
Subject: Detroit Tigers
Organization: Wayne State University Math Department, Detroit
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:55:27 GMT

I'm not quit sure about the draft rules, and the rules for protecting
players, but anyway here's my list of who the Tigers will protect.

For Sure 
 Mickey Tettleton
 Cecil Fielder
 Lou Whitaker
 Travis Fryman
 Tony Phillips
 Milt Cuyler
 Alan Trammell (they have to)
 Rob Deer
 Frank Tanana (they have to)
 Bill Gullickson
 Mike Henneman

Probably
 John Doherty
 David Haas

Maybe
 Rich Rowland
 Rico Brogna
 Scott Livingstone
 Buddy Groom
 John DeSilva
 Mark Carreon
 Shawn Hare
 Dan Gladden

I haven't heard how John DeSilva has been doing (is he hurt or
something?), but I would take Rowland and Brogna out of this group,
maybe DeSilva, depending on what he's doing this year.

As far as free agents go I think that the Tigers should go after John
Smiley and Greg Swindell.  They'll come a lot cheaper than Cone, Maddux
or Drabek, but pitch almost as well.  In today's Baseball Weekly, there
was a section on free agents.  Detroit was not listed place that
Swindell was likely to come to, but the Tigers were mentioned as a team
that Smiley may sign with.

The Tigers could also use some outfield help, but outside of the three
superstars (Bonds, Puckett and Sierra), there doesn't seem to be anyone
worth getting.

--
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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Athletics Minor League system
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:00:25 CDT


rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:

> That was my complaint last year about the A's. When they made the Willie
> McGee and Harold Baines deals two years ago, they traded most of their
> best prospects. Last year I said they had basically decimated their
> system above A ball.

At the time of the McGee trade (1990), Twins GM Andy McPhail was asked
why he did not claim McGee on wavers to prevent him from going to the
A's.  McPhail replied that he was more than happy to see the A's trade 
Felix Jose out of the league.  It was a good trade from the Twins standpoint.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
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From: dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane)
Subject: Re: Re:Boggs Toronto Bound?
Organization: Wayne State University Math Department, Detroit
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:13:44 GMT

In article <5935@transfer.stratus.com> dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.193504.9420@brtph560.bnr.ca>, dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025) writes:
>> Wade Boggs and Dave Magadan are similar players. 
>> Usually a high average, high OBP, walk alot,
>> and are slow around the base paths. Only, Magadan
>> will not command the kind of salary that Boggs
>> will. Magadan is a younger underrated version
>> of Wade Boggs.            
>
>Underrated means is he is as good as but doesn't get credit.  Are you
>seriously claiming that on their stats to date, Magadan is as good of a
>hitter as Boggs?

Well, I'm not sure how you concluded that that's what "underrated"
means, but I think Magadan is certainly comparable to Boggs, possibly
better than him.

Look at the stats:
1992 Magadan .390 OBP, .346 SLG    Boggs .352 OBP, .377 SLG
1991 Magadan .391 OBP, .393 SLG    Boggs .421 OBP, .460 SLG
1990 Magadan .417 OBP, .457 SLG    Boggs .386 OBP, .418 OBP

It appears that they are about even this year, that Magadan was much
better in '90 and Boggs was much better in '91.  However, Boggs plays in
Fenway Park, and over his career that has given him over .200(!) in
OPS.  Magadan, on the other hand, playing in a pitcher's park, has hit
about the same on the road as at home.  Last year, for example, Magadan
hit somewhat better than Boggs did in neutral parks.

Over the course of his career, certainly, Boggs has been the better
player.  But right now, Magadan is 30, and Boggs is 34.  If I were a GM,
I would rather sign Magadan than Boggs.

	     
--
David Frohardt-Lane   dfl@math.wayne.edu 
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Go Tigers, Lions, Pistons, Red Wings and Wolverines !!!!!!!!!!
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: MLB Standings and Scores for Fri, Aug 28th, 1992
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:46:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Aug28.154630.24599
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <44666@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez) writes:
>
>        MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STANDINGS FOR FRIDAY, AUGUST 28, 1992
>
>		     Won   Lost   Pct.    GB   Last 10   Streak   Home   Road
>NATIONAL WEST
>Atlanta Braves        74    50    .597    --     z4-6    Lost 3  39-24  35-26
>Cincinnati Reds       71    54    .568   3.5     z6-4     Won 4  41-19  30-35

Hmmm -- this race is closer than I thought.  The Reds have an extra five games
at home, and if they play the way they've been playing, they'll go 14-7 at
home and 8-8 on the road for a 93-69 finish.  Which means the Braves need
to play 20-12 (.625) ball to finish a game ahead.  20-11 if you don't include
the rainout against Montreal.  Do Atlanta and Cincinnati have another
series?

>San Francisco Giants  59    68    .465  16.5      3-7    Lost 3  36-33  23-35
>Houston Astros        58    69    .457  17.5     z6-4     Won 2  33-28  25-41

Astros are only a game out fourth place! :)
(Who won the competition to predict the road-trip record without end?)

>AMERICAN EAST
>Toronto Blue Jays     73    55    .570    --      4-6     Won 2  39-21  34-34
>Baltimore Orioles     70    57    .551   2.5      4-6     Won 2  36-29  34-28
>Milwaukee Brewers     67    60    .528   5.5     z4-6    Lost 5  40-25  27-35

Here, too, the Blue Jays have a host more home games to finish with.

Ted "less likely to risk public nudity over Howard Johnson than other
     r.s.bb posters" Frank
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From: tjurlina@itmtbj (Tom Jurlina)
Subject: Re: CUB'S MADDUX EASY CHOICE FOR CY
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:31:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.053512.7191@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>  
bk713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kimon Zachary) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, bacarlso@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brad Carlson) says:
> 
> >Any bozo who thinks that Tom Glavine is more deserving of the NL Cy Young
> >award than Greg Maddux must be smoking crack.  Maddux has an ERA of about 
> >
> At this point, Maddux is certainly more deserving.
> 
> >2.10 after tonight's complete game shutout of the Dodgers, which is much
> >lower than Glavine's.  Additionally, Maddux has more strikeouts, complete
> >games, innings pitched, and has given up fewer hits.  And all of this has
> >been accomplished in a hitter's ballpark.  With the run support of a team
> >such as the Padres or Twins, Maddux could be 26-0, considering that in his
> >10 losses, the Cubs have scored only three runs total for him.  Morgan and 

Actually, the Cubs have scored five runs in his ten losses. Seven times, when  
Maddux has taken a loss, the Cubs were shut-out.
> >
> 26-0?  He's had a couple bad games, hasn't he?
>
One or two; he'd certainly have over 20 wins by now if he got the offensive  
support that Glavine usually gets. I think the Braves average about seven runs  
a game when he pitches.

Regards,
Tom Jurlina
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