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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 15:45:03 EDT
From: <QUINN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: CONTEST

In article <BtnLu4.Jv1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(jean reese) says:
>
>Many additions to the contest catagory list - this should be fun!
>Vote for your choices of the following:
>
>best couple
>
Cruz and Eden
>worst couple
>
CC and Santana
>best actor
>
Lane Davies as Mason
>worst actor
>
Sophia's original stud TJ
>best actress
>
Nancy Grahn
>worst actress
>
Saucy babe with short black hair, blue eyes who used GIna's brother to
murder her husband
>worst plot inconsistency
>
Haunted house - super start but lousy finish - so much unresolved!
>best replacement by actor/actress
>
Thompson replacing Lester as Mason
>worst replacement by actor/actress
>
The second coming of Keith Timmons - just awful after Deas
>funniest character (male)
>
Justin Deas
>funniest character (female)
>
Tough choice but Gina edges out Augusta
>funniest storyline
>
romance between Gina and Keith
>hottest stud
>
Forry Smith
>best looking male
>
Craig Hunt
>best looking female
>
Marcy Walker - not the classic hard edged good looks of say Angela.
It was refreshing to have a diva with REAL blonde hair

>best storyline
>
So many good Mason/Julia plots
>worst storyline
>
Eeeek, the sheik who kidnaps Eden to lure Cruz for his talisman
>best male character
>
Mason - so wonderfully complex
>best female character
>
Julia - great female role model
>worst male character
>
Ted - useless no matter who plays him.  Can we let him grow up?
>worst female character
>
Lisa
>hottest stud chained to a bed
>
Forry Smith
>hottest babe chained to a bed
>
Flame was made for bed chaining.  So guys, why don't you take a stab
at the male category?
>Gina's most harebrained scheme
>
Sperm snatch
>best pregnancy story
>
Julia's contract with Mason
>character you wish they'd never gotten rid of
>
Eden
>character you wish would pop in for a visit
>
Mason's Mom, Pamela.  She made for a divine dinner party at the Cap-
wells last time she was in town
>favorite villian/ess
>
Flame
>most underused character/actor
>
Julia.  BIG mistake here as Grahn won't stand for it
>
>And a grand prize for those who can complete the Capwell family tree
>(including all marriages in order)!
Kudos to those who can - out of my league

Thanks Jean for putting this together.  Hope you keep a tally.  Look-
forward to the posted results.

Eileen
From: vdoshi@smiley.mitre.org (Vinti Doshi)
Subject: Y&R and B&B
Keywords: Update
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:53:06 GMT

I don't know how I forgot to turn on my VCR to record Wednesday's show
on both the Y&R and the B&B.  If someone could post the updates for
both of them, it would be really nice.  I am eager to know Nikki's
reaction to Jack's accident.  And also Stephanie's reaction to
Brooke's atyiong back in LA.]

Thanks.
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC -TAN - Soap Opera Magazine and Star Update/Other Info
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:11:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

>As mentioned on this net before, in September, AMC will be
>sending Erica, Dimitri, Angelique, Edmund, Brooke and Helga to
>Budapest, Hungary, to shoot romantic adventure segments.  The
>scenes are set to air during the November sweeps.  (Personal
>note:  I'm Hungarian, so I'm excited about this because I've
>always wanted to go to Hungary but I'll probably never get
>there.)

I think it is interesting that Jack won't be in Budapest.  Perhaps
Dimwit finally decides he really loves Angelique and dumps Erica,
then the devastated Erica could be comforted by Jack.  I really di
like those two together.
>
>*****************************************************************
>REMEMBER WHEN:
>
>FIVE YEARS AGO......Cliff Warner decided to leave Hong Kong and
>return to his wife Nina in Pine Valley.  Enroute, he stopped in
>South America to drop off some medical supplies to a friend of
>Matt's then he disappeared.  Nina was frantic when Cliff never
>arrived home and she and Matt began searching for him.  After a
>tip that an American doctor had been spotted at a small village,
>she and Matt traveled to South America, but their hopes were
>dashed when the doctor turned out to be a man named Peter Haas. 
>He revealed that Cliff had been killed by rebel bandits during a
>train hijacking and his body was thrown in a river.  A shaken
>Nina asked Matt to take her home.  Nina planned a memorial
>service for Cliff but her family was worried because she still
>hadn't shed a tear for the husband she loved and adored.
>*****************************************************************

I don't remember much of this storyline except that I believe Nina
and Matt had a relationship and were even married, but then didn't
Cliff come back and while Nina was still married to Matt, she got
pregnant by Cliff.  This is all pretty fuzzy.  Could someone help
out?
>
>Well, until next time.................................hope you
>all enjoy these little tidbits - maybe you can let me know,
>because if you don't care about this kind of stuff, I'll stop
>posting it.
>
Karen, I think these are just great.  Keep up the good work!

Linda MacDonald (llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu
>Karen Colten
>
>
>
From: burnett@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Cathy Burnett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: HF: *Spoilers* for next season
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:32:45 GMT
Reply-To: burnett@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Cathy Burnett)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.tv.soaps, ST401816@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>I'm definately psyched]  Anyone know when the new season starts?
>
>Kate

If you watched it last night (3 Sep) they said the new season
starts in 2 weeks.  Does anyone know what day of the week
it will be on?

CB
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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: CONTEST
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:30:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Vote for your choices of the following:

best couple - Mason and Julia / Cruz and Eden

worst couple - Cruz and Kelly / CC and Santana

best actor - Gordon Thomson

worst actor - Charles Grant

best actress - Nancy Grahn / Kim Zimmer

worst actress - Eileen Davidson

worst plot inconsistency - Haunted House Story

best replacement by actor/actress - Gordon Thomson replacing Terry Lester

worst replacement by actor/actress  - Eileen Davidson replacing C. Garland

funniest character (male) - Bunny  

funniest character (female) - Gina 

funniest storyline - Angela and Ted

hottest stud -

best looking male - 

best looking female -  Angela / Flame

best storyline - child abuse story 

worst storyline - Gina sperm bank / CC and Santana

best male character - Mason

best female character  - Julia

worst male character  - Connor McCabe / Rafe 

worst female character -  Present Kelly

hottest stud chained to a bed - 

hottest babe chained to a bed -  Angela AND Flame

Gina's most harebrained scheme - Sperm bank 

best pregnancy story -  ?

character you wish they'd never gotten rid of - Flame / Craig

character you wish would pop in for a visit - Flame

favorite villain/ess - Frank

most underused character/actor - Rosa / Minx / Dreyfus


And a grand prize for those who can complete the Capwell family tree
(including all marriages in order)!  I wouldn't know where to start.

John  
From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:18:45 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC: The new Natalie
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) /  9:30 am  Aug 25, 1992 /

>And I agree the arguments between Dim, and Edmund-O is getting really
>repetitive! :-( I'm kind of bored with it already. And I agree, Barb,

I'm so sick of it I scream at the screen everytime they start to fight!

>I would not put the three of them in a jail cell together! (including
>Charlie). I don't also like to see Brooke just standing around helplessly
>going "stop it, stop it". She has more pizazz then that!

Thank you for bringing this up.  I jumped onto my soapbox during that scene
while watching last night, annoying my BH in the process.  Why don't soap
women ever *do* anything?  While it is a physiological fact that men tend
to be heavier and stronger, I still think Brooke could have done something
... after all, it looked like Dimitri was trying to kill Eddie.  I would
hope that my BH would at least pick up a chair and start swinging it!

>CAZ

Dave Ochs               "Would you just calm down, you're supposed to be
daveo@cv.hp.com         innocent!"  Edmund to Dimitri, breaking in on
                                    a 'business' meeting at Erica's
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: LOV: Isabelle
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:42:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep2.190542.22625@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, lynda@mozart.Physics.McGi
ll.CA (Lynda Corkum) writes:
>I don't know about you other LOVING viewers, but I can't even look at the
>new Isabelle. I think she is supposed to be somewhere around 70 years old
>and looks as though she's just had one face lift too many!!! I hated the
>scenes of her with Tim Sullivan as he lay on his deathbed. Even with all
>her crying, her makeup still looked as though it is tatooed on!!! I'm glad
>that Kate finally told her off - she is so self-righteous.
>
>Also, can't wait to see how long they d-r-a-g out the storyline with the
>kidnapping. I have a feeling that Gif will end up buying the farm - at
>least I hope so! Could you believe his love scenes with Trisha???!!! GAG!!
>
>Ciao,
>Lynda
>
I don't like what they've done with the entire character of Isabelle.  She used
to be the sane one in the family, she never liked Cabot's manipulation and
interference.  But since they had Cabot die, I guess the show needed a rich,
old manipulator.  Celeste Holms at least looked the age, this one - Tim
Sullivan should've told her he was lucky he left town way back.

The also screwed the character of Gif, he used to be intelligent and
understanding.  But the show needed a fall guy - just like Monty when he
turned from nice guy to evil.
-- 

        ***********************
        *   Gail A. Fullman   *
        *   Manager - ADMO    *
        *   Ext. 83113        *
        ***********************
From: ccc_sheree@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL -- EAGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:41:04 +1200
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <u83Cr*x61@cecily.UUCP>, rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum) writes:
> In article <QecqxDW00UhWI1yEsa@andrew.cmu.edu>, Liz Fox writes:
> 
>> 
>> [Vix not Lix] 
>> 
>> Oh Coleen!  You predicted it this summer.  If Days can make a horrendous
>> mistake it does.  Drake and Kim!!!???  Bleah.  Gag.  Yuck.  Pitooey.
>> Retch.  The only match that might actually be worse than poor Drake and
>> sIcklyB!  I can't stand it.  I just can't stand it.  And here I was hoping
>> that I might be able to tune in at the end of October.  Would someone just
>> shoot me and put me out of my misery?  Better yet.  Would someone just
>> shoot Kim and put us all out of our misery?
>>  
>> A totally depressed,
>> Vix
>>  
> 
>      And which personality would John get?  Mousey housewife-Kim
> or the slutty redhead (since TPTB have made it so easy to differentiate
> between them by making them both so one-dimensional)?
> 
> Does anyone else out there feel like this would be incestuous?

Not exactly incestuous but certainly revolting,moronic,completely lacking in
taste,the mismatch of the decade,an horrendous debacle of monumental
proportions and a disaster for Drake as an actor. 
Did I make that clear enough??
Equally disgusted Kumara

> 
> Disgusted Guavita
>   
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: pml@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (patricia.m.lott)
Subject: Y&R
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:10:31 GMT
Keywords: Discussion

I am responding to a variety of posts, so I'm not including
by-lines or anything.  I will try to include previous comments.

>Lauren used to be manipulative and mean, but now she is strong and
>goes after what she wants.  She's not mean and manipulative anymore
>like she was during her college days.  Unless I'm forgetting something,
>I can't think of anything that she's done that could be considered
>sleazy.  When she and Scott split up, she was honest and upfront with
>Scott about her unresolved feelings for Paul.

"honest and upfront"???  Is that why she didn't tell Scott about
their baby?  She seemed to turn into a real human being when she
had Dylan, and yes, I do feel she has a right to see and be with
her son, Scottie.  But did she have to be so mean while she was
living at Scott's by bringing her dates in?  Scott was very generous
in asking her to live with him so she could spend time with the baby.
Granted, he is being very stubborn about allowing Lauren to take the
baby to her place, but it just seemed very unnecessary to me for
Lauren to flaunt these other men in his face.  And the act with Brad
was just too much.  I agree with the person who said Lauren is a bitch
to Lynn.  Lynn has been very kind to Lauren.  I realize that partly she
is doing her job when she was helping Paul get information to prove
her maternity, but she did pitch in and babysit when Lauren couldn't
find anyone else.

>What about the way a woman should love the man that she marries?
>Isn't it the same thing?  If so, then aren't you asking Lauren to do
>the same thing that Brad did to Tracy (which, we all agree, is wrong)?

Of course a woman should love the man she marries!!  That's why Nikki
was never truly happy with Jack.  She cares about him, but she was
never really in love with him.  But there are times when other factors
also become important in a marriage - children are usually the victims
when people disagree.  I don't think that Lauren should marry Scott.
I agreed with her totally when she was trying to convince Scott to work
things out so she could spend time with Scottie at her place.  And I
think they should be granted joint custody, so they can have equal say
in the child's upbringing.  But what was that discussion Lauren had
with Paul about him being an important part of Scottie's life if she
(Lauren) was granted custody.  What is Scott supposed to do in that
case?  Is he supposed to just disconnect himself from his own child
because Lauren has found another man to play the father figure?  That
was totally ridiculous.  Scott is his father no matter who gets
custody.  Scott should be part of his life always no matter what.
From: bartosch@felix.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Phoebe's attitude (was: AMC: Dimitri's looking good!)
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:36:46 GMT
Reply-To: bartosch@fritz.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Sep2.165153.26548@athena.mit.edu> zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:

>Phoebe actually minded her own business (twice!); first, when Brooke
>and Edmund were - she called it "smooching"; I liked that, she actually
>suggested leaving and taking Jamie with her.  Then when Jackson showed
>up, she said she would put Jamie into bed. Feebs, you surprise me sometimes,
>actually minded her own business :-)

I really like the new attitude of Phoebe.  It's such a breath of fresh air
compared to her old meddling self.  I really liked that episode last month
where Stuart and Gloria were out to dinner and Gregg's mom (forgot her name)
and Adam were trying to figure out a way to split them up.  Gregg's mom was
upset about Gloria even being in the restaurant and they said something to
Phoebe who exclaimed "Let the poor girl alone!" or something like that.  It
was great.  I glad Phoebe isn't such a prude any more...

--Diane
bartosch@fritz.filenet.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: mjheal@bnr.ca (MJ Heal)
Subject: DOOL: :( :( 
Reply-To: mjheal@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, ON, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:07:07 GMT

I just had the most awesome day yesterday!  NOT!!

It was going along perfectly till Mr. Nelson informed me that
Matt's NY luncheon was cancelled.  Thanks Nelson,  you don't know
how that made me feel.

AND THEN,  I was skimming through my new SOU magazine and came
across the most horrible piece of gossip.  They reported that the
character of HAWK might be brought back.  No confirmation or
anything,  but just the thought.  

See,  I told you it was my day!!

Lime

-- 
MJ Heal        *        BNR,Ottawa,ON,Canada        *        mjheal@bnr.ca
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What happened to the Jack "I'd sell my Grandmother for a dollar" Deveraux?
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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: 8/27 -- did Derek curse?
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:29:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.171019.8373@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> presley@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Joe Presley) writes:
>I may have heard wrong, but did anyone notice that in Thursday's first
>scene where Derek is talking on the phone to someone about Cookie's
>disappearance he said "F*ck No" or something like that a couple of
>times?  It could have been "Huh No" or "Uh No", but we replayed it

Well, I haven't seen Thurs. show yet but I *did* notice on Wed. show
Trevor said "freakin'" or "friggin", i'm not sure which.

I think Carter is a real *@#$%^#%^*@*#% for beating up on Cookie.

TGIF, EveryBUDy!

CAZ
From: jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: SIBLINGS
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:12:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Aug27.203906.5507@cbfsb.cb.att.com> van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson) writes:
>
>Thanks to the people
>who let me know about Brooke's mom being a homeless person, and sorry 
>about the heading...like Mary the birthday list keeper, I don't know how
>to post, only to follow up!  Anyway, now I'm *really* confused!!  I DO
>remember Jane (after those memory jogs!), but I also remember some other
>powerful, attractive woman who was somehow tied to Brooke - I thought
>SHE was the mother...I remember Brooke being really in agony about their
>relationship.  Here's another request for help...maybe Trish can find
>the answers in the cards...doesn't that sound very "new age"?!!

Valerie, I think you're recalling Phoebe's sister Peg, who raised Brooke (?)
and turned out to be evil...my memory is so faint about this, but I seem
to recall that Brooke was investigating this drug ring or something, and
the ringleader turned out to be...PEG, who she thought was her mother...
does anyone else remember this story line?

Janet
-- 
Janet Tilander
Chevron Exploration and Production Services Co.
San Ramon, CA
From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:  alumni sighting
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:27:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: scd.BtyoHD.IKr
Reply-To: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Carolyn Zaccaria (zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu) wrote:
: Hey! Last nite on the new tv series, "Going to Extremes" I saw the
: FIRST Charlie! He is a regular in that show. Now i forget his name
: too, but he has three of them I remember!  I hadn't seen him since
: his stint on AMC (which is a couple years). I recognized his name in
: the tv guide actually, I knew it was familiar to me. He has grown
: up!
: 
: CAZ

Yep!  Robert Duncan McNeil was the actor's name.   I felt old
when I saw how much older he looks now.  Mostly because I know
I must look proportionally older from when I last saw him on
AMC, too!!  He was heavier in the face and a lot larger in 
general - I mean kinda pumped up.  He played a jerk on the
show.  But of course at the end he felt bad and apologized -
pretty predictable for these type of shows, don'tcha think?!

Susan
 
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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@perv.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL -- EAGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!!!
X-Xxdate: Tue, 1 Sep 92 16:34:30 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:43:30 GMT

In article <QecqxDW00UhWI1yEsa@andrew.cmu.edu> [Vix not Lix] writes:
>
>Oh Coleen!  You predicted it this summer.  If Days can make a horrendous
>mistake it does.  Drake and Kim!!!???  Bleah.  Gag.  Yuck.  Pitooey.
>Retch.  The only match that might actually be worse than poor Drake and
>sIcklyB!  I can't stand it.  I just can't stand it.  And here I was hoping
>that I might be able to tune in at the end of October.  Would someone just
>shoot me and put me out of my misery?  Better yet.  Would someone just
>shoot Kim and put us all out of our misery?

Oh...poor poor Vixen.  Even *I* feel bad for you.  Now...take a deep 
breath and think about this for a minute.  Even if WackoKim takes a 
liking to John...that doesn't necessarily mean he'll take a liking 
back.  I can't imagine *any* fans out there that would enjoy such a 
pairing so even if Ken "What do I have to do to kill this show?" 
Cordork thinks it's a good idea, it'll be shot down by *everybody* and 
it won't happen.  After...what?...7 years?...as brother and sister, I 
just don't think they can make this work.  Uh-oh, there I go again...
trying to be logical.  Help!

If there *is* anyone out there who would like to see Kim and John 
matched up, drop me a line, won't you?  I won't broadcast your name or
anything on the net but I'd really like to know.

>A totally depressed,
>Vix

There there.  

Joanna.

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From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN Cats
Reply-To: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:52:18 GMT

Mary Smith (girl@slavery.EBay.Sun.COM) wrote:
: 
: Well todays the day.
: My poor Rudy went in to be De-Balled.
: 
: I feel like a nervous mother!
: 
: MKS

Mary, 
Hobbes has to go in for the dreaded procedure sometime 
within the next month.  Please let me know how it goes.
I am not looking forward to his personality changing at
all, although I know I have to get it done.  I also don't
want him to hate me for making him into an "it."

Susan