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From: cbm@well.sf.ca.us (Chris Muir)
Subject: Re: The Flying Man
Summary: Bill Irwin 
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:51:06 GMT

In article <92252.163110C09615ST@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, 
C09615ST@wuvmd.wustl.edu writes:
> A few notes/questions about this episode:
>   1) Who plays the Flying Man?  I saw him before in the otherwise forgettable
>      Steve Martin film "My Blue Heaven" as an FBI agent.  He strikes me as a
>      tremendously talented physical actor.

Bill Irwin played the Flying Man. Bill Irwin is an ex-clown with the
Pickle Family Circus here in San Francisco.

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From: wkl5819@zeus.tamu.edu (LEVERICH, WILLIAM KENT)
Subject: Re: Death to Chris, Joel, whoever
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:45:00 GMT

If Rob Morrow doesn't get his contract situation straightened out, Joel may
become the sixth victim of the Curse of Maggie O'Connell.  Can anyone think
of a clever way for the next victim to die?  It would be very hard to top
death by falling satellite.

Kent Leverich
WKL5819@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU
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From: enigma@halcyon.com (Matt Luders)
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure book
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:09:04 GMT

While you're here, you might also want to stop by the little town of North
Bend, where Twin Peaks used to be filmed.  About ten minutes away, you can see
the magnificent Snoqualmie Falls, which used to appear at the start of the
show.

There is a lodge on the crest off the falls that has been a Seattle favorite
for decades.  They became famous for their gigantic breakfasts.  It used to
be called Snoqualmie Falls Lodge.  Recently it became yuppified, was renamed
The Salish, and is very pricey.  The interior is nice but very different from
the lodge shown on the show.

North Bend is also just off I-90, so it's right on your way to Roslyn. It's
about 45 minutes east of Seattle.


Matt

North Bend Tourist Agency  (just kidding)  :-)
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From: puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett)
Subject: Re: "Cicely" and the Future
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:30:18 GMT

walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker) writes:
<stuff deleted>

>"One person can make a difference, but two people..., well two people can
>change the world".  Who are the two people?  I could understand if Ned
>had said that "One person could change the world"; it would be easy to see
>that person as being Joel.  But Ned specifies 2 people.  Is he speaking
>figuratively here?  Like he meant that any more than one can change the 
>world, meaning everyone in Cicely?

Decidedly!

Christian OK? "If two or more of you agree, it shall be done." Or pick your 
own spiritual heritage - the concept that two joined in spirit is greater
than any physical, emotional or mental force is old as the Spirit and as
widely accepted.

Just a monkey with car keys,
jim p.


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From: rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin)
Subject: Missed "Cicely."  :-(
Organization: School of Statistics, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:34:33 GMT

I've blown it twice, now.  I didn't tape the season finale (Cicely) last
year, and got really upset by it.  But no matter, I knew it would air
again in a couple months. 

And it did.  Only this time, through a sequence of errors and distractions,
I once again failed to tape the episode.

I've never seen the first 20 minutes of the episode and really want a copy
on tape.  Can anyone help?

-- 
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rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu                             University of Minnesota
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From: emcphers@mik.uky.edu (Frank McPherson)
Subject: Re: Steppin' Out of Character
    <MTUCKER.92Sep9101401@greyrock.greyrock.mso.colostate.edu> 
    <FRANL.92Sep9142436@draco.centerline.com>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:16:32 GMT

In <FRANL.92Sep9142436@draco.centerline.com> franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio) writes:

>mtucker@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Michael R. Tucker) writes:
>> I *hated* that!  It was a terrible cop-out!
>> I don't really know why......I guess I expected more from the writers.
>> Now, the show will never be the same.
>Keep in mind that was a second-season episode.  By your logic, the
>whole third season was "never ... the same".

	I think it's a bit silly to expect every episode to be perfect. 
To me, Northern Exposure is such a great show that I'm willing to overlook
little things I don't quite agree with.  You should consider that.  One
little scene which didn't appeal to you isn't a very good reason to spoil
the best show on television for yourself....


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From: dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews)
Subject: Re: Where are the children??
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:09:03 GMT

>>I was going to post this earlier in the week, but then got horribly
>>busy.
>>One of the things I like best about the show is that THERE
>>ARE NO CHILDREN!  None of those horribly bratty precocious
>I hadn't noticed the near-total dearth of children.  However, now that
>it has been pointed out (how did I miss this?), I must say that I am
>totally delighted that there are no kids.

I'm glad that there are no children as well.  It's also possible that the
age represented in the show precludes children.  Let's see, Ruth Ann and
Maurice have already acknowledged their kids.  Holling hasn't ever been
married so we don't know much.  Most of the rest of the characters are
young - the age group that in the rest of the country has not yet had any
kids (or chooses not to, or chooses no more than 1).

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From: Bucky.Whaley@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bucky Whaley)
Subject: Re: Ollie North on NE?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:23:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.184420.42855@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Somewhere--I don't know where--I heard that Ollie North was going to
>do at least a cameo on NE.  Did it ever happen?  If it did I missed
>it.


Please.  No.


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From: wayne@ita.lgc.com (Wayne McCormick)
Subject: "Letters from Cicely"
Organization: Landmark/ITA Inverse Theory and Applications
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:50:49 GMT


Sorry if this has appeared a number of times.  I seem to be having some trouble
with the posting software.  If anyone sees this article could you tell me that
it made it out there.  Thanks.

Anyway, I am looking for more information about a book called "Letters from
Cicely" that was mentioned here a week or so ago.  I need to know the
author(s) and publisher so that I can find the book easier.  Right now, all
I have to go on is the title.  Thanks.

Wayne
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From: russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams)
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Subject: Re: Death to Chris
Date: 10 Sep 1992 19:03:03 -0500
Organization: Great Northern Hotel
Distribution: usa
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In article <11020@rls.UUCP> randy@rls.UUCP (randall l. smith) writes:
>Chris.  He is a smarmy know-it-all with more pop psuedo-intellectual

That's "pseudo".
(I said with a smarmy know-it-all grin... :-)

>He is, of course, a vegetarian and peace-nick.

Is he actually either of these?  I'm not denying it, but I don't recall
him ever explicitly stating wars should never be fought; with all his
talk of life and death and whatnot I could easily imagine him saying
war is an inevitable part of the human experience.

Ditto on vegetarianism: has he ever said he was?  I can't swear to it,
but it seems like I've seen him eat meat.

Just wondering if you're superimposing these 2 beliefs on him because
they would fit the stereotype, or if he really is a vegetarian and
pacifist.

>Ok, so if we can't snuff Chris, at least Chris, PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP!!

I vote to keep him.  Sometimes his babbling gets silly, but I still
think he's a fun guy.  And his radio talks do give a nice framing device
to many of the episodes.

R
From: lhartman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lori L Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: WHAT'LL I DO?
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:54:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University

Does anyone know the lyrics to the song the Russian guy sang last night at the 
end of the show?  If so, please send them to me -- appreciate it.

I've been watching Northern Exposure since last fall.  How many seasons has it 
been on TV now?  Would someone be kind enough to tell me about Maggie's other 
boyfriends and what happened to them.

On the episode last night, I think Marilyn said more than she has said all 
season long!  She is great.

Also, does anyone have copies of the early shows on video cassette?

Thanks in advance for all the information.

Lori
From: dennist@sw.stratus.com (Dennis Tetreault)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Reasons for fandom
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:29:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I'm a reasonbly new NE fan.  It's a lite break from reality (reality is fleeting).
Anyhow, I am waiting for 1 episode in particular. I have not seen it yet, but am 
told it involves Maggies boyfriend being struck by a satellite. 
Can you fill me in on the storyline??

Good MOrning, Cicely!
The Dentist

dennist@sw.stratus.com

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opinions as I, then they should review them immediately!!

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From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Subject: We need an FAQ!
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:09:24 GMT
Reply-To: sharonc@meaddata.com
Distribution: na

So is it the concensus of the group that we need a Frequently Asked
Questions list for this group? One that contains the wisdom of the
ages, like that Miriam Makeba is probably the person who did the
"Toy Cows In Africa" song, and character histories, and lots of
scoop on Our Favorite Show. I'm willing to try to put one together,
but I may have to hand it off to someone else in the future
(especially someone who may have contacts in The Industry).

54 posts arriving overnight qualifies this as a high traffic group,
or at least getting to be high traffic, IMHO.

Any takers? Any interest? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? :-)

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From: saiki@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eileen Saiki)
Subject: Re: Cast members
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:38:33 GMT

wkl5819@zeus.tamu.edu (LEVERICH, WILLIAM KENT) writes:

>Several names are flashed during the opening sequence, but I'm having a hard
>time matching them up with characters in the show.  Could someone please post a
>list of characters in the show and the names of the actors portraying them?

>Thanks,

>Kent Leverich
>WKL5819@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU 


From the episode guide compiled by Andy Bates.

Characters
----------

Dr. Joel Fleischman      Rob Morrow
Maggie O'Connell         Janine Turner
Ed Chigliak              Darren E. Burrows
Maurice Minnifield       Barry Corbin
Marilyn Whirlwind        Elaine Miles
Holling Vincoeur         John Cullum
Shelly Tambo             Cynthia Geary
Chris Stevens            John Corbett
Ruth-Anne                Peg Phillips
Rick Pederson            Grant Goodeve



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From: jbrandt@NeoSoft.com (J Brandt)
Subject: Re: Joel/Maggie question
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 14:52:04 GMT

In article <lalhckINNklr@aludra.usc.edu>, mueller@aludra.usc.edu (Stephen Mueller) writes:
> Is Maggie entirely to blame? I wasn't really siding with either
> (since they both lied) until Maggie left Joel on the couch.
> 
> Are there any women (or men) who actually feel that Maggie acted
> anything but cruely? 
 
I understood why Maggie got so angry with Joel, but I do think her
character went too far in being mean and inconsiderate.
  
I like the show because it doesn't follow a formula.  I can't predict how
the episodes will turn out.  And the moose.  The moose is great.
  
(I grew up in Seattle, and all of those mossy trees make me homesick.)
-- 
Jaclyn Brandt
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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Oddz n' ens
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:07:04 GMT

In article <Pkg6qB1w164w@waffle.sns.com> hankdtank <hank@waffle.sns.com> writes:

>People who compare these two shows [TWIN PEAKS and NORTHERN EXPOSURE]
>(usually reporters or critics) have never 
>really watched these to shows.  The only real connection is that both are 
>filmed in Washington.  That's it.

And both feature a wide assortment of extremely peculiar characters.
I agree that the themes of the show are completely different, but the
initial attraction for quite a lot of people seems to have been the
outrageous non sequiturs.

-- 
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From: jason@jazz.cnd.hp.com (Jason Zions)
Subject: Re: Steppin' Out of Character
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:59:30 GMT
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	<1992Sep8.190714.9670@wuecl.wustl.edu>
Organization: HP-Network and Systems Management Division

In article <1992Sep8.190714.9670@wuecl.wustl.edu> kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu (Ken Cox) writes:

   >>2)  They BOTH fire into the air at "ten".  This would not really be in
   >>    character for Maurice, of course.

   >Yes.  Even though you would think Maurice would shoot the Russian, his
   >character says he won't.

   Oh, I quite agree that he wouldn't shoot the fellow -- what I meant
   was that I don't see Maurice, in a duel with a man whom he doesn't
   really trust (both personally and politically), disarming himself.
   I'm sure he would turn, quite _ready_ to fire, but wouldn't if he
   saw that the other man was not going to fire on him.

I could see him whirling into a crouch and drawing a bead, then not firing.
Alternatively, I could see both men firing simultaneously, the bullets
colliding between them and hitting the ground; everyone Oh-Wows about the
cosmic significance of This Event, the two men come to terms with each
other, and everyone goes back to the Brick.

>   Ken Cox
>   kcc@wucs1.wustl.edu

Dear ghod, Ken, haven't you graduated yet?!?

Jason Zions
Wash U SI86

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From: sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Steppin' Out of Character
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:56:02 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


	Yeah, sure you might attribute that to the creativity of the
writers, but it seemed like an incredible cop-out to me.  I mean, I think
the NX writers are talented enough to resolve the Maurice-Russian Guy duel
withou resorting to something so cheesy.
	Although the actors did deliver it well.
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From: stigle@cs.unca.edu (Sue Stigleman)
Subject: Re: Where are the children??
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:12:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.124014.3916@infonode.ingr.com> stevenst@iaserv.b1.ingr.com (Todd Stevens) writes:
>Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the complete absence of children
>on this show?  Oh, there has been the occasional episode like the one
>about the baby being left in Joel's office.  I know this show is meant for
>adults, but a lot of us adults have to constantly deal with children.
>
>Why can't NE include some regular child characters?  Is the almost
>purposeful exclusion of kids the writers' way of allowing the adults to
>act more "childlike"?  Are they absent so that those of us who are parents 
>can completely forget about our own kids for awhile (maybe not a bad idea!)?
>Or is it because the NE writers have no experience with children?
>
>I believe the show could prosper with the inclusion of some children.  Maybe
>Adam and Eve will provide this to some extent (what a parental couple!!!).
>What do you think?
>
>Todd Stevens
>stevenst@iaserv.b1.ingr.com
>

I was going to post this earlier in the week, but then got horribly
busy.

One of the things I like best about the show is that THERE
ARE NO CHILDREN!  None of those horribly bratty precocious
terminally cute TV-kids.  Those aren't children -- they're
mutant TV life forms.  I haven't seen a TV show yet where
the children added to the show instead of taking it over.
(I watch very little current TV so there may
be shows out there that do.  None of the shows I have
ever watched regularly has had children as regular characters.
(Of course, this might say something about me .... :-))

--sue

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From: shabby@Athena.MIT.EDU (Chris Shabsin)
Subject: Re: It on during football
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:22:44 GMT

In article <14489@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
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   From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
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   Date: 8 Sep 92 17:29:15 GMT
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   In article <Bu8B78.CL@rice.edu>, kossack@owlnet.rice.edu (Jordan Marc 
   Kossack) writes:
   > 	That's Texan, not Kreton.    :-) 

   That's creton not Kreton.


   Tom Pickett 
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That's cretin, not creton.

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From: mba2@Rosie.UH.EDU (Puneet_S)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: It on during football
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:04:30 GMT
Reply-To: mba2@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

For those of you who have missed the discussion on the English Language,
here's a synopsis:

>   > 	That's Texan, not Kreton.    :-) 
>
>   That's creton not Kreton.
>
>That's cretin, not creton.

Thank you for your support, and can we please go on to another topic.
Oh something interesting like, how do you folks up north (i.e where it's
damn cold) in small towns feel about the show.  I know all of us big
city folks seem to like it.  The small town atmosphere (i.e Mayberry, 
Green Acres) etc.. seems to exenuate the "quirkiness /peculiarities" of
the characters.  I'd also like to start a dicussion on Chris' philosophies.

It seems to me that Chris is just a little way out.  I definetly don't think
he is a "weenie" as someone else put it.  I do think that he goes off a 
little too much on philosophising.  I mean I like the Adam/Eve Marraige scene,
and the Charisma episode where all the young ladies were after him, and even
his "twin-brother" episodes, but it seems to me that he's not completely
there.  I think he at some time in his life did a little too much of some
mushrooms maybe and got stuck in the 60's generation.  His concepts on
freedom and oneness with nature are great, but his surrealistic attitude
on life steps into the realm of "religous" experiences.

I'm really curious about opinions on the character, and anything youv'e
noticed about his philosophy.  

D-Poon
Vaya Con Dios
From: reg@dptg.att.com (51351[efw]-Regina Mackiewicz(MT4799)1374MT)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: NX History dates
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:32:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T BL Middletown/Lincroft NJ USA

Someone had a question about teh 89-90 copyright.

I remember the pilot came on the summer of 1990 so that would technically
make it the 89-90 tv season.  I remember so well because we had just
moved into our first, and only 8-), house.  There we were our first night
sitting on a mattress on bare sub-flooring, peering into a 9 inch
black and white portable tv.  it was of course the first episode where
joel gets off a bus in the middle of nowhere and i believe ed picks
him up in a pick up truck.  from there he learns about his assignment
and i don't remember which came first but he either goes to the brick
and makes a phone call to elaine or he goes to his office.  at any
rate in the office marilyn follows him around telling him she is his
assistant.  at the brick joel is yelling into the phone for elaine to 
read the fine print on the contract. when he finds out he is stuck
he yells for her to contact his lawyer to find a loop hole that will
get him out of this hell hole.  naturally he turns around and everyone
in the brick is staring at him.

how about the goofiest episodes since we;ve gone over most favorite.

what about the one where Chris has women chasing after him? 
how about when Chris and his half brother bernard realize they
are related? was that the one where they were sharing each other's dreams??
how about the episode where the undelivered package is opened?

stay tuned for another great season!!

regina
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From: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure book
Reply-To: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:12:34 GMT


Tad Cook posts;
 
-Actually, not much is filmed in Roslyn.  The exterior shots of the
-town that you see in the opening sequence are filmed there, but
-all of the interiors are shot in a studio built in an industrial
-park in Redmond.

Well Tad, you may be from Seatle and I'm from far away Virginia, but you
are wrong.  I was in Roslyn saw the interior sets for the store, Joel's
office and waiting room and the radio station.  I was told that the interiors
for the Brick were shot out of town though.

Ed


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