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From: wagner@utoday.com (Mitch Wagner)
Subject: net.views -- computer crime
Organization: Open Systems Today
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 21:13:24 GMT




                 Do you consider computer crime to be
                 a threat to your system?


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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 10:35:07 -0400
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From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Subject: Non-Drug Induced States via computer
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:35:06 EST

Hello,
  I'm starting to work on my senior thesis for art.  I'm interested in
"non-drug-induced tripping" or states of well-being.  I've been looking into
the use of such things by rotating mandlebrot/fractal color patterns (looks
like tie-dye patterns) and also by the effects of stereoscopic (3-d, crosseyed
view, etc) images.  There are other ways to go about this kind of stuff
(I think that Timothy Leary is getting involved with it)  Since I don't do
drugs, it's hard to know if I'm approaching the same results, although things
can still be "funky" to me.
An example of this effect of "pseudo-tripping":
  Once at the Limelight, in NYC I was sitting in a small side dance room.
There weren't too many people in there, this light was shining off a mirrored
disco ball and created hundreds of little lights on the floor moving around.
If I followed the lights around it was alright, but when I stared at one
spot on the floor, it felt like I was flying and spinning around.  If effects
like these are combined with stereo sound (oscillating between speakers..
to cause a rotating effect) total disorientation of the user/viewer will occur.
Do you know of any publications (books, magazine articles, etc) that deal
with this sort of thing?  Any information will be appreciated.
 - Thanks

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From: MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett")
Subject: Re: RAID 7 Disk Array Platforms-Future
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:46:41 EST

Regarding John Scoggin's request for information on RAID systems for
VINES, Storage Computer of Nashua, N.H. is currently showing its new high
performance RAID 7 disk array platforms at the September International VINES
User Meeting.  SCSI-based, they work equally well with NetWare, workstations
like the RS/6000 and HP/Apollo, for example, IBM systems, etc.

Standards-based, RAID 7 is designed for enterprise-wide computing and
overcomes performance limitations of earlier RAID architectures, providing
a  "real world sustained application performance improvement of 200% to
400%" and dropping the cost of storage to 16 cents/MB.  Their brochures
say they can "mix and match" up to 48 SCSI commodity (3.5 or 5.25 inch)
drives, up to 150 GB.  The RAID 7 disk array platforms come with an embedded
operating system and up to 12 SCSI-2 based host interfaces.  Besides servers,
Storage Computer's RAID 7 disk array platforms can connect to workstations
and midrange systems in addition to IBM's.  Multiple CPUs can be attached to
same disk array platform.

The RAID 7 platforms come with up to 256 MB of cache, eliminating any
reason for using performance-damaging CPU main memory disk RAM.
The drives are "hot plugable" for uninterrupted, transparent operation,
with a hot standby drive automatically replacing a failed drive.

There was a lot of activity this week at the Storage Computer RAID 7 booth
at the Boston Banyan show as I walked by.  They were demoing what happens if
a drive goes down, showing the backup drive taking over.

For further information on Storage Computer's RAID 7 for any system, their
key US contact is indicated to be John O'Brien, Director of Technical
Services at Tel. 603-880-3005 or FAX 603-889-7232.  John is the "guru" of
RAID 7 and a leading industry RAID figure.  John Taylor is the new VP
of International there, they indicate.

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 19:47:27 CDT
From: Eric Hunt <bsc835!ehunt@uunet.uu.net>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: SSN in login ids
Organization: Computer Privacy Digest
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X-Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 084, Message 8 of 8

The University of Alabama/Birmingham's Engineering dept uses a student's 
full SSN as a part of their computer login ids. This machine in Internet
reachable. 

I was wondering what relevant laws, if any, applied to this situation? I found
out about it through a friend who told me what his Internet address was. I
was shocked, and told him not to give that address to ANYONE because it 
contained his SSN.
--
Eric Hunt                     | bsc835!ehunt@uunet.uu.net (preferred)
Birmingham-Southern College   | ehunt@aol.com
Birmingham, Alabama 35254     | <<insert witty saying here>>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Hodas <hhll@u.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: Computer Privacy Digest V1#084
Organization: Computer Privacy Digest
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X-Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 085, Message 7 of 10

Today I received an offer from Citibank to get my photo digitized on the
back of my MasterCard at no charge. Hmmm... My first thought, of course,
is suspicion, especially if Citibank likes the idea enough to offer it for
free. Now I'm wondering if it isn't perhaps a minimally intrusive way to
get some protection against simple fraud.

Anticipating feedback,

Steven
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:07:37 GMT
From: Mike Brokowski <brokow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: Address required on checks
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
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X-Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 087, Message 7 of 11

In article <comp-privacy1.86.8@pica.army.mil> Wm Randolph Franklin <wrf@ecse.rpi.edu> writes:
>
>1. Service Merchandise, a local catalog store gets quite unfriendly when
>I pay in cash.  They've told me they must have a name.  (So I give them
>'Mario Cuomo').

They do get unfriendly at times, but they have yet to refuse my cash.

>2. Then there's Radio Shack.

Radio Shack salepersons always ask "Can I have the last four digits of 
your phone number?" and I just reply "No."  Apparently, RS keeps a
customer database on its computers and sends flyers/ads to those on it.
 
Once, the clerk sneered "Ok, but we can't give you a refund or exchange
if the product is defective without this information."  I told him that 
such a policy constituted an illegal precondition of sale in this state 
and that unless he had reason to believe I was involved in fraud, the 
receipt, original product, and packaging were all he could require for 
transactions under $25 (my purchase was about $3.50).  Of course, all 
of that is crap as far as I know; I was just annoyed at his attitude.  
But he bought it and I made the purchase anonymously.  (I can't say 
what would've happened if I had needed to return the item.)  I suspect 
that the clerk just made up the 'no refund/exchange' line as a response
to intransigent customers (like me ;->).

>3. You must give id when spending over $10K with one merchant in, I
>believe, one year, or the merchant can get in serious trouble.
>
>4. I've heard stories about IRS offices refusing to accept cash, though
>I can't vouch for them myself.
>
>There is one loophole however, which is probably still open.  You can
>buy money orders anonymously, put whatever name you want on them, and
>then use them to pay people who refuse cash.
>-- 
>Wm. Randolph Franklin,  wrf@ecse.rpi.edu, (518) 276-6077;  Fax: -6261
>ECSE Dept., 6026 JEC, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy NY, 12180 USA
>

I am curious about 3) and the money orders.  Does anyone know the rules
for requiring id depending on the amount of yearly purchase?  It seems
to me that a large family could possibly spend over $10k per year at a
supermarket and simply pay cash (especially at these newer huge stores 
where one can pretty much buy most of life's necessities e.g. food, 
clothing, books, some furniture, toys, pharmaceuticals, et cetera).

  - Mike
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:27:08 +0100
From: Mik Butler <mik@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: cellnet privacy?
Organization: Computer Privacy Digest
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Peter Debenham writes :
>/ hpopd:comp.society.privacy / ppxpmd@mips.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (P.Debenham) / 12:34 pm  Sep 25, 1992 /
>Someone mentioned finding out about Cellnet privacy laws over here in England.
>Well as far as I know it is NOT illegal to monitor someone's Cellnet telephone
>conversation as it is being broadcast in such a manner to be easily publically
>available (like to any Joe with a decent radio or scanner).
(rest deleted)

Sorry Peter, it IS illegal to monitor cellnet/vodaphone telephone conversations
in the UK.  The Wireless Telegraphy Act (1949) states that you can in general
only legally receive to Broadcast stations (i.e. broadcast television
and radio), and Radio Amateur stations.

In practice, the dti (department of trade & industry, UK gov. body
responsible for among other things the airwaves) don't have the
resources to track down & prosecute people who illegally monitor the
radio frequencies.  I can't remember the last time someone was prosecuted
for listening to Air Traffic Control (just go to Heathrow and see
how many aviation enthusiasts listen in), but prosecutions for
listening to Cellnet/Vodaphone, police, etc. do happen from time to time.

Mik Butler, G8RKO

11th commandment : "Thou shalt not get caught"
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:28:15 GMT
From: Mike Johnston <shearson!jenny!mjohnsto@uunet.uu.net>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Blockbuster & video rental records
Organization: Lehman Brothers
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Recently my local corner video store shutdown and I was forced to find
a membership elsewhere. Since the only other store of consequence in my
town was Blockbuster Video, I decided to go there. The application 
process was fairly quick and painless IE you show them ID and a valid
credit card and you're a member in just a few minutes. After you join
they give you a notepad sized piece of paper which explains the
terms of the membership.

I glanced at this note when I got home and was quite surprised. Imbedded
with the standard legalese about being responsible for rented tapes and
such is a clause that states, from memory:

	Member grants Blockbuster Video the right to release all information
	generated by or through the use of the membership card.

In other words, they can give out my rental records to someone without
permission. This is disturbing.

It's annoying to discover that I'm liable to wind up on a whole slew
of new mailing lists (video tape clubs etc), but to find out that most
anyone Blockbuster deems appropriate can get a list of what I've viewed
is appalling.

Is there any way I can restrict Blockbuster from doing this, or should
I just stop using them? This is a large chain, I'm sure many of you
have already run into this. What were your experiences?

MJ
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:02:04 GMT
From: Dave Grabowski <dcg5662@hertz.njit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: SSN in login ids
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
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In article <comp-privacy1.84.8@pica.army.mil> bsc835!ehunt@uunet.uu.net (Eric Hunt) writes:
>The University of Alabama/Birmingham's Engineering dept uses a student's 
>full SSN as a part of their computer login ids. This machine in Internet
>reachable. 
>
>I was wondering what relevant laws, if any, applied to this situation? I found
>out about it through a friend who told me what his Internet address was. I
>was shocked, and told him not to give that address to ANYONE because it 
>contained his SSN.

  A few weeks ago, I posted a msg about how NJIT uses student's SSN's
for Student ID's and for UNIX System ID's as well. It was the custom for
exam grades to be posted by SSN as well, but as I just found out today,
it seems that, at least in the Physics Dept., this is no longer going to
be done. They have now changed it so that the listing is done by >FIRST
NAME< only. This has GOT to be the most ridiculous way to post grades.
The Prof. mentioned that in one of his other classes, there were three
"Mark"'s in a row. Another person (who was checking her grade while I
was) said, "Nobody else has my name, anyway" (it was something obscure,
like Aretha).

  Perhaps it's time for schools to realize that SSN's aren't the way to
go, and some crazy methods like this don't work either.

-Dave

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:53:17 GMT
From: egdorf@zaphod.lanl.gov (Skip Egdorf)
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: SSN and Airline Antitrust Settlement
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
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In article <comp-privacy1.78.3@pica.army.mil> rudis+@cs.cmu.edu (Rujith S DeSilva) writes:

   The claim forms for the Airline Antitrust Settlement ask for `Social Security
   Number or Tax I.D.'.  I've read the SSN guidelines posted here regularly, but
   this case seems different.  I really don't want to supply my SSN, and I don't
   see why I legally have to.  The terms of the settlement clearly define a
   `Class' of members (loosely, passengers of some airlines during a certain
   period), and say that upon certifying their inclusion in this Class, its
   members are eligible to a share of the settlement.  Why should I supply my SSN
   to certify my claim?

A "Settlement" of a monetary amount will be reported to the IRS as
income for tax purposes. This is essentially the same requirement as a
bank requesting the SSN so as to be able to report interest on a
savings account to the IRS. This is permissable under federal law.

They should, however, provide you with the notification required by the
1974 privacy act acknowledging that this is the case.

They PROBABLY want the SSN for some reason other than the legal one...

					Skip Egdorf
					hwe@lanl.gov
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:08:10 GMT
From: Steven Hodas <hhll@milton.u.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Photos on credit cards
Organization: University of Washington
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X-Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 085, Message 9 of 10

Today I received an offer from Citibank to get my photo digitized on the
back of my MasterCard at no charge. Hmmm... My first reaction, of course,
was suspicion, especially if Citibank likes the idea enough to offer it for
free. Now I'm wondering if it isn't perhaps a minimally intrusive way to
get some protection against simple fraud.
 
Anticipating feedback,
 
Steven
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 11:34:42 GMT
From: "P.Debenham" <ppxpmd@mips.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: cellnet privacy?
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
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X-Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 084, Message 3 of 8

Someone mentioned finding out about Cellnet privacy laws over here in England.
Well as far as I know it is NOT illegal to monitor someone's Cellnet telephone
conversation as it is being broadcast in such a manner to be easily publically
available (like to any Joe with a decent radio or scanner).  It could (only
could) be illegal to record such information but even this is very doubtful.
I take for my evidence the case in the British (and a lot of the World's press
over a recorded CellNet phonecall which was CLAIMED to be between the Princess
of Wales and an admirrer.  In all the flak thrown up by this there has been no
indication that the person doing the recording was doing anything illegal.
Immoral definately Yes but not illegal.

I only hope that the gut response of some MPs to submit a bill making such
monitoring illegal is shot down in flames as it deserves.  I have heard
nothing from any offical government source so I think they are ignoring the
issue as politically and practically the best response.

The only thing that suprises me is that with the almost daily cases reported
in the British press of CellPhone and also Cordless phone conversations being
recorded that anyone is still stupid enough to expect privacy on one.

Peter D
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:31 EST
From: "Garnet (x5738)" <GHARRIS@lando.hns.com>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: PO boxes
Organization: Computer Privacy Digest
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X-Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 086, Message 4 of 8


>In Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 082, Gordon Burditt 
> <gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org> asks

>Now, for those who say that giving false information is fraud:
>what happens if the information is blatantly and obviously false
>to anyone who looks at it?  Is that giving false information, or 
>just withholding it?
>Example:  on a credit application form, filling in SSN: JUS-TS-AYNO
>Example:  on a credit card slip, filling in "your phone number" 
>(literally) on the line marked "phone number".
>Example:  when an address is asked for on a check, filling in
>"Go swim in a toilet".
 
On a federal tax return, it is called "filing a frivolous return" which is
subject to fines and penalties.  The same is true of any derogatory remarks
about the IRS that you write in the margins of the form.  [I guess they
can't take a joke.]

>Another question:  You have a physical address where you *CANNOT*
>receive mail.  You have a post office box where you can receive mail

I face this problem every time someone asks for my address.  I usually
respond by asking: "street or mailling?".  Sometimes it leads to confusion 
when giving the address to people who assume that the Post Office always 
delivers to the door and leave off the PO box number.  Fortunately, the
town is small enough that they will look up the box number.

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Garnet
gharris@lando.hns.com
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:39:56 EDT
From: "Murray J. Brown" <mbrown@vnet.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: cellnet privacy?
Organization: Computer Privacy Digest
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X-Computer-Privacy-Digest: Volume 1, Issue 086, Message 1 of 8

A Toronto radio station reported today that the Supreme Court of Canada
has upheld a lower court's decision that Cellular Telephone Calls are not
deemed to be 'private communications' as defined by the Criminal Code of
Canada and are thereby legally subject to interception by a third party.
Reportedly, police departments welcome this decision in aid of their fight
against criminals who make extensive use of this technology.
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:19:20 MDT
From: Tom Wicklund <wicklund@intellistor.com>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: SSN in login ids / posting grades
Organization: Computer Privacy Digest
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In comp.society.privacy Dave Grabowski <dcg5662@hertz.njit.edu> writes:

>  A few weeks ago, I posted a msg about how NJIT uses student's SSN's
>for Student ID's and for UNIX System ID's as well. It was the custom for
>exam grades to be posted by SSN as well, but as I just found out today,
>it seems that, at least in the Physics Dept., this is no longer going to
>be done. They have now changed it so that the listing is done by >FIRST
>NAME< only. This has GOT to be the most ridiculous way to post grades.
>The Prof. mentioned that in one of his other classes, there were three
>"Mark"'s in a row. Another person (who was checking her grade while I
>was) said, "Nobody else has my name, anyway" (it was something obscure,
>like Aretha).

Any system of publicly posting grades is going to voilate privacy.
Whether a student ID is a social security number or a unique within
the university ID, it can be misused.  And most of the time grades
posted by student ID are still listed in alphabetical order (making it
easy to find people near the start or end of the alphabet).

If one wants grade privacy, then professors should be encouraged not
to post grades.  Ideally the university will have a reliable way to
inform students of grades in a timely fashion.