From: khalid@bu-bio.bu.edu (Rasheed A. Khalid)
Newsgroups: news.groups,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam and Ahmadiyya -- Enough
Summary: I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THEM, TILL THE NEWSGROUP IS CREATED :-)
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:56:06 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Biology Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

WARNING: explicit discussion; reader discretion advised!

In article <1782@frackit.UUCP> dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe) writes:
>
> In article <BxFHyu.8HI@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, ijaz@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tahir Ijaz) writes:
> > In <1992Nov5.222013.5810@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> rana@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Nabeel Ahmad Rana) writes:
> > 
> > >randall-joshua@yale.edu (Joshua Randall) writes:
> > >Sir, this is one of the main reasons for the demand of such a
> > >newsgroup. Soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya would be form for such
> > >debates. Ahmadiyya Islam is a topic which interests people from
> > >all religious backgrounds.
> > 
> > I agree with Mr Rana.  The fierce debate generated only shows the need for
> > this newsgroup- SRIA.
>
>Bovine excrement. The "fierce debate" has thus far only dealt marginally
>with the topic of a proposed newsgroup. Most of it has encompassed
>religious debates that boil down to the basic "Is too!" "Is not!" theme.
>Neither productive nor applicable. 
>

Bovine excrement sounds gross at first sight, but just take another
look at what you have just said.  It appears from the tone of your
language that you selected out of your diction the most disgusting
thing in the world.  Would everyone agree with you? NOT.  Bovine
excrement is not the most unwanted or disgusting thing in the world;
it is partially decomposed vegetation and, given the herbivorous
nature of bovines, has a lot of cellulose, which is not catabolised
further the way other things are.  And besides, one should care for
the sensitivities of others who read articles on the net like you do.
A lot of people in India might not have liked your statement -- they
(Hindus) regard the cow (a bovine) as a sacred animal, and its dung
has had great value in the past as  fuel or natural manure.

Now, comparing your post's value with that of bovine excrement:
You might have angered some people by the terse response, added
to the already overflowing flames on the net.  You might have
inadvertently hurt the sentiments of others.  While I do see some
minuses, I see no apparent value in your article as such, right?
Let's return to issues rather than continue the empty flames.

I personally believe that the discussion on the net about the
proposed newsgroup has added to the knowledge of the two groups
involved and of the others spectating from a distance.  It is
true, though, that if the newsgroup is created, such discussion
will go elsewhere.  As far as this statement is concerned, I
feel it is quite logical and makes perfect sense.  But as to
whether the group should be created based on this disturbance
alone is a different matter which should be further elaborated
and which you did not quite achieve in your post.   The ongoing
exchanges between the two groups have relevance to discussion
about the creation of a newsgroup -- the name is important
to both groups -- the tone has to be changed, though.

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Regards,
Rasheed,
Boston, U.S.A.