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From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: Emacs and Distibuted Computing.
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:36:27 GMT
Organization: Morning Star Technologies

In article <mack.715004069@deci> mack@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dan Mack) writes:
   In <1992Aug27.120025.12576@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> segr@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Read) writes:
      What I want to be able to do is to set up ONE emacs on ONE
      machine which loads and saves files from ANY machine, and
      handles mail/News.

   I'd like this functionality as well.  It's seems like like a waste
   of CPU/IO time to start up a new emacs process on a remote host
   when I have a perfectly idle one running on my workstation.

To edit remote files, use ange-ftp.tar.Z.  For mail, use vm-4.41.tar.Z.
For news, use gnus-3.14.1.tar.Z.  Solve all your problems by browsing
archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/packages/*.
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From: terescoj@tardis.union.edu (Jim Teresco)
Subject: Emacs 18.58 under SunOS 5.0
Summary: Anyone been able to build emacs 18.58 under Solaris 2.0?
Keywords: emacs, sunos 5.0, solaris 2.0
Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:32:27 GMT

I have built emacs 18.58 for a network of Sparc stations running
SunOS4.1.1, but I would now like to build it for Solaris 2.0, as we
are now beginning the upgrade process.  I am building on a Sparc IPC,
and it runs Solaris 2.0/SunOS 5.0.  I am using SPARCompiler C 2.0.  To
configure the setup, I used the m-sparc.h file and the s- file for
SVR4.

I am able to build through the first directory (etc/ I think), but I
crash after generating and trying to use the xmakefile in src/.  It
(make) complains that it doesn't know how to make $(LOCALCPP).  I
didn't think I'd need to build the local cpp, but the xmakefile seems
to think it does.  If anyone else has had luck building under similar
circumstances, please let me know - terescoj@tardis.union.edu.  I will
post whatever I had to do if I can figure it out.  Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim Teresco
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From: ryanr@beethoven.CS.ColoState.EDU (richard ryan)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: .vip modification to R
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:13:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: beethove.RYANR.92Aug28111314
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Computer Science Department, Colorado State University

Hi,

I was hoping that someone could help me figure something out in the
.vip file.  I would like R in the vip command mode to turn on the
overwrite-mode and ESC to turn the overwrite-mode off.  Also, when out
of vip-mode, I wouldn't like ESC to have any meaning to overwrite-mode
any more.  Is it possible to have overwrite-mode in vip-mode?  I was
just wondering why R doesn't already do this.

Thanks,
Richard.
From: mac@bnr.ca (Michael Campbell)
Subject: Re: help with .emacs file
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 03:13:45 GMT

I have just replied to a previous article, asking about binding
the DEL key. It sounds like you may have a similar problem. If 
you and your friend are using different systems, and differnt
terminal types (X or otherwise), you may have different default
key mappings being processed AFTER your .emacs. His terminal's
defaults may override things that yours does not.

Have a look at my previous response - I would include it here, 
but I didn't save a copy. Hope this helps.

========================================================================
Michael Campbell                  BNR Inc.               Richardson, Tx.
ESN   444-5595                   Dept 2Q35                 75082-4399
(214) 684-5595               "Dunnage Happens"
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: What's a prefix argument?
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:05:44 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Sep1.044936.10073@digi.lonestar.org> kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher) writes:
>Strictly speaking, a numeric argument is one type of the more general concept
>of prefix argument.  Prefix arguments come in two flavors:  numeric and raw.
>The gory details can be found in the GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, section
>18.7.

In either format, they refer to the numeric argument.  As it says in the
referenced section, "a @i(prefix argument), a number specified before the
command itself."  The only difference between raw and numeric is whether
the program cares how the user entered the argument.

>For the GNU Emacs user who is NOT an Emacs Lisp programmer, the phrase
>"numeric argument" conveys some meaning immediately while the phrase "prefix
>argument" requires some explanation.

Exactly.  And since the descriptions displayed by C-h k and C-h d should be
geared towards the user, not programmer, I think it is a mistake to use the
term "prefix argument" in these.

In fact, the distinction between prefix arguments and numeric arguments
isn't even useful for programmers calling a function.  Consider the
following description:

    kill-line:
    Kill the rest of the current line; if no nonblanks there, kill thru newline.
    With prefix argument, kill that many lines from point.
    Negative arguments kill lines backward.

    When calling from a program, nil means "no arg",
    a number counts as a prefix arg.

Does it say whether it's talking about a numeric or raw prefix argument?
When calling it from a program, does the programmer care whether it's a
prefix argument rather than some other mechanism?
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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From: jsd@esl.com (Jeff Dalton)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: tapes direct from FSF?
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:01:20 GMT
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.help
Distribution: usa
Organization: ESL Inc., S'vale CA

I got a 1988 version of the Emacs manual from FSF and in the back it
has an order form for more stuff.  We have requirements on our project
that we don't load any software on the system if we don't know where
it's been.  Well, on the order form in my manual it says I can get
emacs on media for a Sun ($175) and for a VAX ($150).  Is this still
the case?  Does anyone know what versions of the software you get?
Can I expect to just load the software off the tape and run it (ie.
no building process) as I did with emacs from the net on another 
project?  Does FSF have an email address or phone number?

I know, this might be a silly rule, but it is cheaper to pay the
$325 then to argue the point.
--
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jsd@esl.com                            what does that make a workstation?
ESL Inc., S'vale CA                                     

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From: hollen@megatek.UUCP (Dion Hollenbeck)
Subject: Re: mail aliasing problem
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:54:44 GMT

>>>>> On 1 Sep 92 21:49:49 GMT, meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) said:

Michael> Aliases *sort of* work for me.  When used singley for a
Michael> message they work fine, however if I include more than one
Michael> then none of them are expanded.  Mush works fine with the
Michael> alias file and (obviously) the mail-aliases variable contains
Michael> the aliases that I'm trying to use.  Possibly, the mail alias
Michael> file isn't formatted *exactly* the way it needs it?  I
Michael> noticed it didn't care to have comments on the same line as
Michael> the alias.

You don't say how you are typing the aliases.  However, I had the
problem, and yours may be the same.  If you type several standard
users names in the To: line, you can separate them with a space, a
comma, or a space and a comma.  These will all work, however they are
not strictly legal.  The official format is a comma and no space.
There are some mailers which will handle all this for you and others
which will not.  The GNU Emacs mailer will, unless you use aliases.
When you use an alias you MUST separate all user names and aliases
with only commas.  Try doing this and see if your problem disappears.
If you are not doing this, then you should re-post and include an
example of EXACTLY what you are doing, we then will be able to better
answer your question.

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                      INTERNET:            hollen@megatek.com
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: krishna@shamu.csd.sgi.com (Krishna Sethuraman)
Subject: Problems with terminal.el and an SGI machine
Organization: /usr/people/krishna/.organization
Distribution: gnu
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:14:50 GMT


Sometimes when I'm dialed up to an SGI machine from home, and try to start up a
terminal emulator, it gives me the following:

stty: : Inappropriate IOCTL operation

This happens every so often.  The terminal then refuses to accept any input I
type in (and it doesn't give me a prompt, anyway).  I log out of the machine,
back to the terminal server prompt, and then try logging back in, but to no
avail.  What's going on here?  Richard Mlynarik, where are you?

The machine runs SVR3, and at times it works without any problems.  Should I be
doing some stty of something before I start emacs up?

Krishna Sethuraman
krishna@sgi.com
From: tim.meade%theweb@meaddata.com (Tim Meade) 
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: EMACS EMULATION OF BRIEF
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Web BBS 1-513-436-9011 6 Lines 1200 News groups 50,000 files!
Reply-To: tim.meade%theweb@meaddata.com (Tim Meade) 


 I am currently coding in X using emacs for the sun.  I would like to
find a translation package or macros which will make my emacs operate in
a manner consistant with brief on the dos platform.  Does anyone have
anything like this or have you heard of this?


                                        ...Tim
                                                                           
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: Help please with Emacs stuff
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.help
Summary: help
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:48:40 GMT


Hi -I"m having a simple problem with emacs I"m hoping you can fix. YOu see,
I'm running EMACS and implementing various modules but things aren't clicking.
Let's say for example I run a telnet session within emacs. Everything
works great until I get to that last line on the screen down there...
Instead of just scrolling up the window, it clears the screen and starts
again from the top. This happens when I use gnus, irchat, or anything.
how can I just tell my damn emacs to scroll, not clear and continue?
   any ideas? If i haven't expressed myself concisely it's because I
dont' realy understand what I"m doing. I welcome any and all mail, and I
will try and elaborate on my problem if necessary.

steve
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From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: What's a prefix argument?
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:29:36 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

I'm trying to create some shortcut keyboard macros and save them to my
.emacs file.  Creating them is no problem, but saving them is another thing.

According to the online-help, insert-kbd-macro has an optional second
argument KEYS non-nil, and this is a "prefix argument" when the
command is called interactively.

What's a prefix argument?

Does that mean I hit the key that the macro is attached to before
calling the macro name?  Or do I input the name of the key (in this
case "[Ou" [KP5]) before calling the macro name?  Neither approach has
been successful.

Please e-mail.

Thanx in advance,

Agitator
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From: rbodin@bnr.ca (Richard Bodin)
Subject: Hanging Indents
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:53:46 GMT

Hi Folks,

Is the anyway of producing hanging indents in Emacs? This is where the
first line of a paragraph starts to the left of the rest of the 
paragraph. eg.

This is an example of a hanging
    indent, they are quite useful
    for producing bulleted lists.

* This is a bullet
  list.

* another line

Can anyone help?
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: CaSe In EmAcS???
Date: 29 Aug 1992 00:19:49 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Aug26.101019.17773@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rclark@lpl.arizona.edu (Richard Clark x4971) writes:
>What topic in the online help system discusses the case sensitivity or
>insensitivity of searches and string substitutions? It is not obvious where
>to look.

I went into Info (C-h i), typed "msearch", and then "msearch case".
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: eeide%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Eric Eide)
Subject: Wanted: Better paragraph-separate for TeX Mode
Organization: University of Utah Department of Computer Science
Distribution: gnu
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:02:39

I've found that the default value of paragraph-separate in TeX mode is not very
useful to me.  I particular, it sometimes gets in the way of the paragraph
filler.  The function TeX-common-initialization does this:

  (make-local-variable 'paragraph-start)
  (setq paragraph-start "^[ \t]*$\\|^[\f\\\\%]")
  (make-local-variable 'paragraph-separate)
  (setq paragraph-separate paragraph-start)

This value of paragraph-separate makes sense for TeX input like this:

  \begin{...}
  This is text to be filled.  This is text to be filled.  This is text to be
  filled.  This is text to be filled.  This is text to be filled.
  \end{...}

But it doesn't work well for TeX input like this:

  \item This is text to be filled.  This is text to be filled.  This is text to
  be filled.  This is text to be fiiled.  This is text to be filled.

The problem is that the "\item ..." line is treated as a paragraph separator,
not the first line of the paragraph.

So before I try to rewrite paragraph-separate for TeX mode, I thought I'd find
out if anybody has already done this.  I'm not a real TeX hack.  Thanks for any
advice.

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From: rbodin@bnr.ca (Richard Bodin)
Subject: Re: Hanging Indents
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:08:52 GMT

Richard Bodin (rbodin@bnr.ca) wrote:
: Is the anyway of producing hanging indents in Emacs?

Thanks to the following who answered :

John Goodenough <jbg@SEI.CMU.edu>
neitzel@ips.cs.tu-bs.de
king@ukulele.reasoning.com
"Jonathan R. Ferro" <jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu>
" (Ken Olstad)" <olstad@msc.edu (Ken Olstad)>
" (Eric Eide)" <eeide@asylum.cs.utah.edu (Eric Eide)>
bob@gnu.ai.mit.edu
" (Michael Ernst)" <mernst@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Michael Ernst)>

The general consensus was to use gin-mode or the "filladapt" package.

Happy Hanging!
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From: khera@cs.duke.edu (Vivek Khera)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: Emacs and Distibuted Computing.
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:27:17 GMT
	<BOB.92Aug28103620@volitans.MorningStar.Com>
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: bob@MorningStar.Com's message of 28 Aug 92 14:36:27 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: a6984841f33f9d3f14ec7e40e7a9db54

In article <BOB.92Aug28103620@volitans.MorningStar.Com> bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) writes:

   In article <mack.715004069@deci> mack@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dan Mack) writes:
      In <1992Aug27.120025.12576@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> segr@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Read) writes:
	 What I want to be able to do is to set up ONE emacs on ONE
	 machine which loads and saves files from ANY machine, and
	 handles mail/News.

      I'd like this functionality as well.  It's seems like like a waste
      of CPU/IO time to start up a new emacs process on a remote host
      when I have a perfectly idle one running on my workstation.

   To edit remote files, use ange-ftp.tar.Z.  For mail, use vm-4.41.tar.Z.
   For news, use gnus-3.14.1.tar.Z.  Solve all your problems by browsing
   archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/packages/*.

don't forget to use gnuclient/gnuserv instead of emacsclient/server.
these are integrated well with ange-ftp to let you initiate editing
files on remote hosts quite transparently.  i use it all the time.
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From: weiss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Peter Weiss)
Subject: generating tags table
Originator: weiss@hphalle0d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:11:28 GMT


I am a novice user of gnu software and I'm trying to generate a C-Language
tags table with etags. The description in the info section differs from
the etags usage message : "usage: etags [-BFaetuwvx] [-f outfile] file ..."
I'm using emacs version 18.58.6 on hpux.
Does anybody got some help ?

            Thanks -- Peter

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From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Re: Highlighting a region
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:52:37 GMT

>>>>> In article <KEVIN.92Sep2152108@runningbear.edscom.demon.co.uk>,
>>>>> "kmb" == kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey) writes:

kmb> Someone posted a "highlight.el" a couple of weeks ago which I've
kmb> found a couple of bugs in.

kmb> 1) It highlights the wrong area when (point-min) isn't visible on
kmb> the screen.

kmb> 2) It screws up when the entire region isn't visible on the screen.

kmb> I've modified it to restrict its area of operation to what is
kmb> visible on the screen at the time.  I've also put the common code
kmb> in an internal function.

kmb> Enjoy.

Unfortunately there's a buggette in this, spotted by "Robert S. Maier"
<rsm@math.arizona.edu>: function `update-display' isn't defined!

The reason for this error is that it *is* defined in my Emacs (18.57)
because its compiled for a Sun SPARC, and `update-display' is defined in
"src/sunfns.c" which provided Sun-specific stuff.  Sorry about that.
Here are a couple of work-arounds:-

1) Define `update-display' in a .c file and link it into your Emacs.
It's defined as:-

DEFUN ("update-display", Fupdate_display, Supdate_display, 0, 0, 0,
       "Perform redisplay.")
     ()
{
  redisplay_preserve_echo_area ();
  return(Qt);
}


2) Replace calls to (update-display) with (sit-for 0).  This is what
they did in the highlight-region I highjacked.

-- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip --

;; ---------------- highlight-region.el ----------------------------

(defun highlight-region (p1 p2)
  "Highlight the current region in reverse video."
  (interactive "r")
  (highlight-region-internal p1 p2 t))

(defun unhighlight-region (p1 p2)
  "Unhighlight the current region."
  (interactive "r")
  (highlight-region-internal p1 p2 nil))

(defun highlight-region-internal (p1 p2 highlight)
  "Highlight/unhighlight the region between P1 and P2.  HIGHLIGHT set to T
means do highlight, NIL means don't."
  (save-excursion
    (save-restriction
      (let ((screen-start (progn (move-to-window-line 0)
				 (point)))
	    (screen-end (progn (move-to-window-line -1)
			       (end-of-line 1)
			       (point)))
	    (region-start (min p1 p2))
	    (region-end (max p1 p2)))

	(setq region-start (max region-start screen-start))
	(setq region-end (min region-end screen-end))
			  
	(goto-char region-start)
	(narrow-to-region screen-start region-start)
	(update-display)

	(let ((inverse-video highlight))
	  (goto-char screen-start)
	  (widen)
	  (narrow-to-region screen-start region-end)
	  (update-display)
	  )))))

-- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip -- snip --
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