From: Donna.D'Iorio@f7022.n124.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Donna D'Iorio)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Anti-Semitism charges
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:11:02 GMT
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    In response to Harvey Smith:

HS>From TA's stance on that Jews are not really the true Jews today, i woul
HS>say that he is either part of the Identity Church, or at
HS>least reads some of their literature, as that is what they
HS>postulate.  Their assumptions are that Jews are of

    Yep...shades of R.Savage.  To call attention to the connection of
this idea to hate groups is hardly a "smokescreen". We would be hard
pressed to find one of their sects that did NOT teach this particular
bit of propoganda.

HS>postulate.  Their assumptions are that Jews are of
HS>Mongoloid descent, and not really related to those Jews who
HS>lived in the Holy Land 2,000 years ago.  That we are en
HS>essence related to the Khazars who converted to Judaism in
HS>the 8th century.  The main error with that is that the

    I picked up a disgusting little book at one of my Half-Price Books
outings called "A Short Study of Esau-Edom in Jewry" by C.F.Parker which
"documents" what you have related above. (Didn't realize what it was
when I bought it, but I'm glad one copy has been exited from the book
shelf.)  Published around 1948.
    This book even give a "family tree" chart of Jews descending from
Esau while the "true" 12 tribes are traced to the "Irish, Scots, Welsh,
Anglo-Saxons, Jutes, Danes "& kindred people who comprise the modern
family of peoples of the British Commonwealth, United States of America
and Scandinavia."
    Truly a disgusting little piece of work. One of the sources of the
savage from LaPorte, it appears....and similar to the propoganda my
friend, the ex-KKK-head, has shown me.

HS>I don't believe his stance reflects what traditional
HS>christianity believes at all...

    No, certainly not the part about "Jews not being Jews", but he is
holding to a long line of tradition that have failed to see the big
picture of the Divine Plan in its thinking that Israel was cut off
permanently.  I have already killed the original from my message base,
but I know that I was not trying to say that the denial of bloodlines
was a part of the traditional error of Gentile Christianity.  Sorry for
the confusion over that point.  The traditional error just does its best
to eliminate Jews from any further significance without stooping to a
claim that Jews aren't Jews.

HS>Next, from the beginning there was intermarriage.  If you
HS>remember Jacob married Syrians, out of the house of Laban
HS>his uncle.. Moses married Zipporah, an Ethiopian.  all
HS>along the way there has been intermarriage, but not
HS>dilution of the Jewish People.  That is because G-d keeps
HS>us...
    Uh-huh...just as the eternal promise says.
    Jer 31:35-36  Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light
by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by
night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of
hosts is his name: {36} IF *those* ORDINANCES DEPART FROM BEFORE ME,
saith the LORD, THEN THE SEED OF ISRAEL *ALSO SHALL CEASE* FROM BEING
A *NATION* BEFORE ME FOR EVER..
    Since the sun, moon & stars haven't fallen, it is therefore certain
that Jews are still Jews.            D.D.

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