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From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Subject: Re: Neat Accessories for Skating
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:22:21 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Aug25.180233.26773@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pinch@cs.washington.edu (Ricardo Pincheira) writes:
>	- CDS/express-line gloves.  These are like your regular cycling
>	  gloves, except they don't have padding.  Instead, they have a
>	  (detachable) plastic plate in the palm, sort of like a 1/2
>	  wristguard, the idea being that if you spill you'll skid on the
>	  plastic and not on the skin of your palms (ouch).  The gloves also
>	  have a little mirror on the left glove, great for (1) checking the

I usually wear regular cycling gloves under my wrist guards, but for
those of you looking for the one-piece solution, I believe Bauer has a
combo guard-glove (should be purple, black and white).  I haven't seen
them in stores at all, but most Bauer brochures show them.  I'm sure a
phone call or two to the mail-order shops should locate one for you.
I'd almost spring the bucks for these, but I like being able to adjust 
the level of hand dexterity, especially when switching from hockey to 
street-skating or long-distance skating. 

Another nice accessory is a carrying strap/handle for your skates.  You
just use a bandana or any sort of handy belt.  On the market, there are 
straps specifically for in-lines, and I've seen a carrier, similar to 
ski-boot totes (skates mounted wheels together, with the handle coming out 
in the middle).  Straps or bandana's are probably as portable as it gets.
Just stuff em in your pocket or wrap it around a body part.

Toolkits are another bring-along item for the fannypack.  I always carry 
my Bladetool (three headed screwdriver for all 3 types of skate bolts.  
Those of you not using Aeros or Coolblades, you'll probably need a wrench 
too), a spare axle (if I ever want to go brake-less), a spare brake, an 
extra wheel or two (I'm a toe-dragger) and some band-aids, for the (rare)
boo-boos.


-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu
 adchen@cookie.cs.uiowa.edu
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From: blancha@seq.uncwil.edu (Chris Blanchard)
Subject: Largest wheels for Macroblade?
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:25:56 GMT

Subject pretty much says it all. I have a pair of Macroblades and would love
love to be able to put something larger than 70mm on them. Is this possible?
Is this recommended? Or should I just call Rollerblade Inc. and ask them?
Thanks.
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From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: Any Good In-Line Video's Available?
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 23:53:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

I video taped several hours of figure-skating olympics this year. I
can imagine no better way to learn, if video is your preferred way.

Some of the stuff is too difficult to follow, but the advantage of
a VCR is that you can replay, and you can play in slow motion.
From: cdavis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Chris Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: please send me the FAQ on bearing cleaning.
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:35:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I'm looking for the FAQ on cleaning your bearings, and I haven't seen it here
for a while. Could someone please send it to me? Thanks.

By the way, is there one certain person I could have just e-mailed for the FAQ
instead of posting for it? Or is there an FTP site with FAQ lists on it some-
where?

Lastly, are there any extra pointers anyone can give me on cleaning and 
lubing? I've figured out how to rip off on face so the bearings can be cleaned, 
but now what? I've heard mention of turpintine, and an ultasonic jewlry cleaner.
(used seperatly, not in conjuction with each other..) And what sort of grease/
lube should I use, and where do I get it (if there is a mail-order FAQ, I guess
I could use one of those too..)

And, and... Well, if all of this stuff is covered in the FAQs, then I'll start
from there.

Thanks,
Chris Davis -- cdavis@en.ecn.purdue.edu
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Subject: Sail Skating
From: <ISSJXS@BYUVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 12:30:34 MDT
Organization: Brigham Young University

    A few months back someone posted a message about using
a sail in combination with inline skates to get some good speed.
While watching the news I saw six skaters using a sheet as a
                                    sail down in Florida before
           ________      S= skater  Hurricane Andrew struck.
          S        S     _= sail    They had a skater on each end
         S          S               of the sheet holding it by
        S            S              top and bottom corners and
                                    both of them had two other
                                    skaters holding on to their
backs.  It looked like alot of fun, and I was wondering if anyone
else has tried sail-skating.

JOHN STORMS    ISSJXS@BYU.VM.EDU
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From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Subject: Sorry about Re: Pre-race conditioning?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 18:27:04 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Sorry about the multiple postings due to newsserver problems.  Please 
ignore the two from this account.  The one from mukherje@phoenix.princeton.edu
is the final copy.

Back to rec.skate

-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu
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From: dwilson@Ingres.COM (It's up to me.)
Subject: Re: "Mistake" Skates
Summary: 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:33:05 GMT

In article <9DD7PB2w164w@cellar.org>, toad@cellar.org (Tony Shepps) writes...
>Jawara@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake) writes:
> 
>> So...what do you do if you've bought a pair of cheap skates that are 
>> driving you crazy or you're long on desire and short on money? I have
>> a few suggestions based on my own experience (i.e. MISTAKES!). 
> 
>Good suggestions.  I wound up doing exactly what you suggest is the best
>route: got cheaper skates with a good boot fit, and wound up upgrading the
>bearings and wheels.
> 
>The original skates were the RB Zetra 303.  At about $120, they were
>half-decent skates for a cheaper introduction to in-lining.  Trouble was,
>after I was hooked, I didn't realize how fast I'd out-grown the skates.
>It took me about two months to outgrow these skates but about 5 months to
>actually upgrade them.
> 
>Replacing the wheels and bearings took another hundred, but it was a hundred
>well-spent: the skates are now incredibly fast and very smooth.  The only
>thing I'm missing is buckles, but I've gotten quick at lacing, so I don't
>really miss 'em.  I used to have trouble keeping up with my friends.  Now I
>have to re-learn puck control because I'm suddenly skating twice as fast as
>I used to.
> 
>So: anyone who is hesitating before upgrading your wheels and bearings: go
>out and do it.  You won't regret it.  It's almost like buying your way into
>a higher skill level!
> 
>--
>Tony Shepps  toad@cellar.org
>Preferred address:  toad%cellar@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com
>Snail mail:  P.O. Box 655, Blue Bell, PA  19422
>Public access and thoughtful conversation:  The Cellar BBS  +1 215 654 9184 

I have to concur with the above.  I've gone through the same path 
(Zetra 303s + upgraded weels and bearings).  It required grinding a 
groove in my breaks so that the bigger wheels would fit, but it 
was well worth it. 

Dave Wilson                         Please note that this was written by
Ingres Tech Support                 Dave Wilson the person, not Dave
                                    Wilson the Ingres representative.
From: tlouie@athena.mit.edu (Tom Louie)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: "Mistake" Skates
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:51:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Aug29.215157.6540
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1570@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> mpeters@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Michael Peters) writes:
>If the bargain basement skates have a flimsey frame, it probably will not
>be worth the money to upgrade the wheels and bearings, unless the user is
>a very, very light person.  Too much flex in the frame will destroy your
>performance.

I want to add that most cheapo skates won't let you rocker the wheels.
Rockering is a big plus if you plan to use your blades for quick turns
moves, ie: roller hockey.

Tom
From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:46:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Any Good In-Line Video's Available?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skate

|    Thanks for the info, Markus.

| I called 800 information (1-800-555-1212) and got the number for
| Rollerblade in Minneapolis (1-800-622-5233), and they gave me the
| number for "Inline" (1-800-528-8800) who sells this video.  The price
| is $19.98+ several dollars shipping and 2-4 weeks delivery.

If you are indeed going to get this (or if someone else has seen the tape),
could we get a critique or summary?  2-4 weeks?  Reasonable...I guess, but
inquiring minds want to know...NOW! <grin>

Jim 8')s  | aites@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: "Mistake" Skates
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:17:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <Jawara-200892150705@jawara.apple.com> Jawara@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake) writes:
>So...what do you do if you've bought a pair of cheap skates that are 
>driving you crazy or you're long on desire and short on money? 

"If you over pay, but get what you want, all you've lost is the
difference in price. If you under pay, but don't get what you
want, then you have lost the entire investment."

Have you ever heard that saying?
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From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Subject: Re: FAQ: In-line Stopping Techniques
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 19:13:56 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Aug23.220450.13013@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>Tony,
>
>I see no reference to skating off pavement onto grass. Frequently I
>will weave from pavement to grass and back to pavement to control my
>speed going downhill, like on the long grassy hills at the Washington
>Monument. If the goal is stopping, then I just stay on the grass.
>...
>This is a lot of fun, too. I like to hit the grass full speed, and
>then skate as far down a slope as possible before the grass stops
>me.
>
>One caution. It doesn't work, if the ground is wet. Your skates will
>immediately sink into the dirt, and you will do a forward somersault..

Hey, this is a pretty neat variation on runouts, George.  I'll include
this technique in the stopping list...what shall I call it?  I've never
come across anyone skating off pavement before, but then I've been 
skating mostly in areas where there is a curb between pavement and
grass.  However, I did go off-road once, with a couple of friends,
while we trying to find a path that didn't exist.  We ended up skating
on packed dirt and leaves, through this wooded area, for about 30 yards,
including a short hike/climb up a hill.  It was fun, but it sure gets your
skates dirty in a hurry!

-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu (apologies if email bounces, the mail daemon is
                          on the fritz)


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From: kanarick@media.mit.edu (Craig M. Kanarick)
Subject: Is it fall already?  What to do?
Organization: The Visible Language Workshop
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:07:59 GMT



OK, now that it is getting cold outside (or at least starting to), I
am thinking about how I am going to continue my in-lining during the
winter.  I would rate myself a beginner/intermediate skater -- I can
skate forwards, backwards, slalom forward, crossovers forward, small
jumps, blah blah blah.  Oh, and yes, I usually use my brake to stop
(or the drag stop).

If I want to stay in shape during the winter by skating on ice, am I
better off getting figure skates or hockey skates?  Which is going to
throw off my in-line "form" less?

-- cmk

-- 
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Craig M. Kanarick			"Do I love you?  Yes I love you.
					 All this talking...talking...	
kanarick@media-lab.media.mit.edu	 is only bravado..."
From: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
Subject: Re: FAQ: In-line Stopping Techniques
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:23:30 GMT


Can someone please post or email me the list of stopping
techniques. None of the women I skate with can stop
decently and neither can I.

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: mukherje@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Shayan Mukherjee)
Subject:  Race conditioning
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:41:46 GMT

I just got a pamphlet from IISA about the Alzheimer's Assoc (Des Moines
chapter) Memory Roll race set for Sept 13 (for anyone interested, call
(515) 225-8716.

I'm toying with the idea of entering since this is the nearest to
me that a IISA-sanctioned race has come.  Of the three levels,
recreational, Cat 2, and Cat 1, obviously Cat 1 is way outta my league. 
Now my guess is that Cat 2 still means skaters with speedskates and have
been training seriously, but just haven't been able to make it into Cat
1, am I right?

I'm assuming I probably have enough on my hands with the Recreational 
level as it is, but I've only seen races on TV so I have no real idea
of the pace involved.  The pamphlet sez:  Recreational - recreational
skaters wearing recreational skates.  How's that for double-talk? 8-)
I suppose my Aeros are recreational then.

Sooooooo, do I try the Rec level and have a learning experience (read:
get blown away 8-) or shall I hold off and train more specifically for
racing?  Most of the literature says to train for about 3 or 4 months
prior to a race, doing speedplay and intervals and all that.  I doubt 
a two week cram session will do any good, unless I'm grossly unaware of
how well-conditioned I am. 

Posting from yet another account,
-Tony Chen
 adchen@lee.cs.uiowa.edu

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: pv@gagme.chi.il.us (Paul Vader)
Subject: Suggested additions to wheel FAQ
Summary: what the manual doesn't tell you
Originator: pv@gagme
Organization: Inline Software Creations
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:34:31 GMT

I have two additional suggestions concerning wheel rotation:

1.  DON'T overtighten your wheels when you put them back on! The bolt
    should be just snug enough so that there's no play in the wheel.
    Anything more and you are greatly increasing friction and wearing out
    the Teflon bearing guides (or whatever those things are called). The
    wheels should spin quite freely, and keep spinning when you let go.

2.  Tired of twisting off the bolts with that damn allen wrench? Cut off the
    long end and put it in the chuck of a battery operated drill, preferably
    one with a clutch to help you avoid overtightening. It cuts the time in
    half, and if you get the clutch set right you can get the tension on all
    wheels uniformly perfect. PV


-- 
Paul Vader           Systems Analyst, semi-lurker, Rollerblader,
pv@gagme.chi.il.us   ex-Zen poet, and part-time .sig deconstructionist
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Is it fall already?  What to do?
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:58:24 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Sep3.200759.20260@news.media.mit.edu> kanarick@media.mit.edu (Craig M. Kanarick) writes:
> 
> 
> OK, now that it is getting cold outside (or at least starting to), I
> am thinking about how I am going to continue my in-lining during the
> winter.  I would rate myself a beginner/intermediate skater -- I can
> skate forwards, backwards, slalom forward, crossovers forward, small
> jumps, blah blah blah.  Oh, and yes, I usually use my brake to stop
> (or the drag stop).

Nothing short of snow or lurking ice should keep you from skating in
the winter.  It may become somewhat of a challange to dress so that
you stay warm while moving quickly yet don't overheat after stopping,
but the energy is there to keep you warm.

Still, this is a matter of preference.  I prefer outdoor activities,
especially bicycling when the temperature is in the 30-50 zone, but
the 0-20 range is more challenging than fun.

> If I want to stay in shape during the winter by skating on ice, am I
> better off getting figure skates or hockey skates?  Which is going to
> throw off my in-line "form" less?

Probably whatever you find you enjoy.  In-lines are somewhat like the
straight-blade ice speed skates, but with better turning ability.
Hockey skates have a similar symetrical "blade" profile and turning
characteristic, but have a much shorter "wheelbase" so you'll have
to improve your fore-aft balance.  Figure skates are their own thing,
but may be more available as rentals.

Unless you're seriously into racing, I'd worry less about maintaining
your form and more about simply keeping the skating muscle groups,
reflexes and sense of balance in training.  Use the alternate terrain
and gear to learn other aspects of skating that you can then bring
over to your in-line skating in the spring.
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From: ST32373@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.skate,misc.forsale,misc.wanted
Subject: For sale/trade
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:37:49 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

For sale/trade (for a pair of Mens 9 to 10 size Rollerblade ligntenings)
Radio Shack Model 100 laptop, Avatex 1200HC modem (external,hayes compat)
Ti994a with:Return to pirates isle Graphic adventure, cassette cables, all othe
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From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: wanted: recommendations for in-line rental places in Boston/Cambridge
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:38:26
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
Distribution: ne
Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: dbl@osf.org's message of Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:36:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.223650.17612@osf.org> dbl@osf.org (David B. Lewis) writes:


   A friend and I are thinking of trying out in-line skating this weekend or
   the next. I've heard of a few rental places in the area (City Sports, and
   the place on the Esplanade that also rents boats) but I'm wondering which
   ones in particular have salespeople who can offer good how-to advice.


One place where I have purchased my current quad skates many moons ago
is Beacon Hill Skate on Charles Street. (Well not exactly *I*, since I
had my prior skates stolen at gunpoint -- Spinoff reimbursed me for
them.)  Chris the owner does good boot mounting.  They rent and
service all type of skates, including ice skate rentals in the winter.

While you are at it, rent some quad skates!

Phone is 617 482-7400


Regards,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Kevin Anderson)
Subject: SP Teri
Keywords: ice skate Teri
Reply-To: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:11:06 GMT

A couple of weeks ago I posted a note asking for recomendations
for buying ice skates and I got a lot of responses.  I would like
to thank everybody out there who supplied me with helpful 
suggestions.  The recomendations I got were for either SP Teri
or Harlick (both being well known companies with local (SF Bay Area) 
factories).  Both brands got good recomendations, but more people
recommended SP Teri, so I decided to go with them.  

I guess SP Teri is fairly busy, because it took me a week to get
an appointment to get measured for a pair of boots.  It took about
a half an hour to get fitted.  The guy who measured me was also
the owner (or the son of the owner) of the company (his name was
George something).  He has been in the business for a long time
and has supplied skates to some of the most famous ice skaters.  He
was very knowledgable and knew the best type of boots and blades I 
needed to do the kind of skating I want to do  (he even knew the 
street address of the Ohio State U. ice rink off the top of his
head, which was enough to impress me, but that's another story).  
The boots were $221, which was low compared to some of the other prices
I have heard quoted.  The only problem is it's going to take 4 weeks to
get the boots in (auugghh!).  I guess the boot I ordered was a 
stock boot that they were out of, so they have to make a new batch.
I heard somewhere that their factory only makes 36 pairs a day.  No
wonder it takes so long. 

Though I haven't tried it yet, their service sounds like it is pretty
good.  After you get your skates, you can take them back for minor
adjustments, stretching, etc.  I can't endorse SP Teri until I get 
my skates, but so far I am happy with them and I anticipate that I 
will get an excellent pair of skates.

Kevin Anderson


Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: dbl@osf.org (David B. Lewis)
Subject: wanted: recommendations for in-line rental places in Boston/Cambridge 
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:36:50 GMT

A friend and I are thinking of trying out in-line skating this weekend or
the next. I've heard of a few rental places in the area (City Sports, and
the place on the Esplanade that also rents boats) but I'm wondering which
ones in particular have salespeople who can offer good how-to advice.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
David B. Lewis  	Temporarily at and certainly not speaking for OSF.
by day: dbl@osf.org			by night: david%%craft@uunet.uu.net
From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:12:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Night skating (was Re: FAQ:  Mail-order numbers/address)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skate

RE: night lights...

The nicest head lamp I've ever seen is used by mountain climbers.  It has a 
variable focus, an elastic band (including a 'top-of-head' band), rechargable 
batt (opt), krypton lamp (opt), and a spare lamp onboard. They start at $40.

Check your nearby mountain equipment shops.

Jim 8')s  |  aites@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com

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