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From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Films that Educate & Entertain
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:41:51 -0600
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Dec30.094151.2672@vlsi.polymtl.ca>, d40937@pascal (Jean Yves Desbiens) writes:
> I adore film that truly recreate the ambiance of a place, that
> lets us peak at the morality, the fealings, of an era.
> Many recreation are merely decors and costumes when its the
> little things, the attention do details, to characters that
> make us believe we are peaking into their lives.
> Historical pieces can be recreations, but they can also
> true expressions of the time they were made in; history 
> seem to run rampant through their veins.
> 
> I would like examples from both forms : esquisite recreation of
> character and places and times & those time capsule films
> that express an era or a place or a way of living.  
> ---------------
> Examples , recreations :
> 
> A Room With a View, Howards End ( Late victorian, Edwardian )
> A Passage To India ( Colonial India in the 20s)
> Cabaret ( decadent Berlin )
> My Mother's Castle, My Father's Glory ( French provincial life some time ago)
> The Killing Fieilds ( Cambodia during the Kmer Rouge's horrific rule )
> etc...
 The Power of One (South Africa during WWII)
 The Great Gadsby (Class Prejudices in America 1920's)
 and of Course
 Gone With the Wind

Rai.
> 
> Could also be a film that for example expresses perfectly what one feels
> when living in a particular city,country, right now, New York, Paris, etc.
> 
> Examples , timepieces & culture snapshot:
> 
> Doctor Mabuse Gambler ( decadent Berlin in the early 20s)
> Wings of Desire ( Wall and surrounding just before it came down )
> Alexanderplatz ( Massive documentary, Long but interesting )
> Open City  ( Italy after the war )
> Children of Paradise ( Paris after the war)
> etc...
> 
> Can also look at current culture, events anywhere in the world.
> -----------------
> Any title documentary or films are welcomed, for the timepieces they 
> don't need to be the greatest entertainment on earth, but it is preferable
> that they be well made. With this, We could have a way of absorbing 
> with little or no pain, maybe this is what the MTV generation needs,
> culture, history, etc. Society must adapt to the new age, teachers
> must use every means they possess, and great movies can profoundly
> affect people, make them remember and understand, don't we know it,
> we read this group with fervor for a reason... :-).
> 
> post if it is of general interest or
> email at d40937@info.polymtl.ca ( I have problem with my Reply To header
> 				 line so you may have to change the 
> 				 address manually )
> 
> --
> SEIZE THE DAY, MAKE YOUR LIFE EXTRAORDINARY .  "Dead Poets Society"
> 
> Jean-Yves Desbiens                  | d40937@info.polymtl.ca
> Etudiant en genie informatique      | 
> Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal Can | To indeed be a god ...,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: dejesus@pluto.nwc.navy.mil (Francisco X DeJesus)
Subject: Re: Siskel & Eberts Top 10 of 1992
Organization: Science Applications International Corp.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:01:42 GMT

In article <9301010947.AA06788@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca> jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung) writes:
>Inevitably, this is going to have to be re-posted several times, so
>here's the first one.  :)
>
>
>SISKEL & EBERT'S LIST OF THE 10 BEST FILMS OF 1992
>==================================================
>
>	Gene Siskel			Roger Ebert
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>10.	UNDER SIEGE			BAD LIEUTENANT
[...]
> 2.	THE PLAYER			ONE FALSE MOVE
> 1.	ONE FALSE MOVE			MALCOLM X	
>
>
>The big surprise in my books is One False Move, which IMHO, was a
>was a decent film, but I didn't find it as such an achievement as
>they did.  Granted, I did see it on video rather than in the

I agree. I thought it was good, but not to place it *that* high.

My surprise goes to "Under Siege"... if that's the #10 movie, then
everything from #11 on down must've sucked pretty bad (and I don't
think so). Just for comparison, anyone recall what "Die Hard" rated
on their lists the year it came out?

Also surprised "Aladdin" didn't make it to either's list, after the
rave that "Beauty and the Beast" got last year.

My bet to be on next week's "worst" list: Alien^3. 
-- 
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From: anton@cbnewse.cb.att.com (anton.j.panagos)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:42:09 GMT
Summary: a few more weird ones

In article <3977@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> 
> Thanks guys for the suggestions on weird movies: the list I've 
> compiled so far is below--please add if you can think of any other.
> 
> Thanks again
> Ahmed
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> The WL:
> 
> 	1984
> 	A Clockwork Orange
> 	Apocalypse Now
> 	Barton Fink
> 	Bagdad Cafe
> 	Blade Runner
> 	Blue Velvet
> 	Brave New World
> 	Brazil
> 	The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
> 	Dracula
> 	Hyunsuk Seung
> 	Kafka
> 	LA Story
> 	Naked Lunch
> 	Night on Earth
> 	Poison 
> 	Raising Arizona
> 	Repo Man
> 	Rumble (sp??) Fish from Coppola...
> 	Santa Sangre
> 	Shakes the Clown
> 	Slackers
> 	Wild At Heart

How about these ?
 
        Angel Heart
        Caligula         (bad AND weird!- weirdest role by Malcolm McDowell )
	Harold and Maude (this one very weird and hilarious with Ruth Gordon)
        Highlander
	Where's Poppa    (another weird one with Ruth Gordon)
        Zardoz           (sci-fi flick with Sean Connery)


Anton J. Panagos
cbnewse!anton
AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville, Il.

"...What do you mean I'm funny?"  - Joe Pesci in "Goodfellas"
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From: dadoun@cs.ubc.ca (Nou Dadoun)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Crying Game soundtrack?
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:23:50 GMT
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Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <KAN.93Jan11162352@yoyodyne.rtp.dg.com> kan@dg-rtp.dg.com writes:
>I just saw The Crying Game (wonderful movie!) and was wondering if
>anyone knows if a soundtrack is/will be available.  I stayed for the
>musical credits, but didn't see anything about a soundtrack.
>Alternatively, is there a CD single with the three versions of the
>title song?

You might try asking around the Art of Noise list, the soundtrack was
done by Ann Dudley, whose recent Songs From the Victorious City has
been burning up some local ears with a middle-eastern inclination.

I liked 'the' song from the film but I kept expecting it to turn into
San Franciscan Nights....

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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: x can't make money
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:02:09
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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In-reply-to: "eric walker"'s message of 5 Jan 93 05:38:57 EST

"eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
|TM>I repeat myself:
|TM>I am not surprised "X" is not making money. I think that a large
|TM>number of moviegoers heard the words "Malcolm X" and dismissed
|TM>the movie as "preaching that white people are evil."

|There's another reason why MALCOLM X isn't a blockbuster, and that
|reason has nothing to do with racism:

|The movie is three-and-a-quarter hours long, and this means the
|theaters can only show it twice per day, or three times at the most.
|Compare this with the FIVE or even SIX times per day a theater can
|show a movie that's 90 minutes to two hours long - and sell tickets to
|each show.  This is a very important reason why X has "only" made
|about $40 million.

|After spending months in the theaters last year, JFK (which is also
|three hours long) "only" made about $70 million, and no one considered
|it a flop.  If MALCOLM X does that good, then the studio will have
|reason to break out the champagne once again.

As I recall, Maloclm X did about twice as well as JFK on opening
weekend.  (JFK was a great movie!  Propaganda?  Sure.  But damn what a
film!)
--
Peace.
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                music where it rhymes."
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From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: anybody else remember this film?
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:39:31 GMT
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In <1993Jan1.175943.26109@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
  leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Mark R. Leeper) writes:
|Billy Mitchell enlisted in the Army in WWI, rose to the rank of
|Brigadier General and organied the expeditionary army air force.
|After the war he became a very outspoken advocate of military air and
|strategic bombing power.  It rose to the point that his superiors
|considered to be insubordination and he was court martialled in 1925,
|found guilty, and eventually resigned from the army.  In WWII, most
|of his ideas were adopted.

I'm surprised you didn't mention the movie about Mitchell with Gary
Cooper in the title role (is it THE COURT MARTIAL OF BILLY MITCHELL? I
forget).  Perhaps it suffers from the same lack of correspondence with
fact that many old "fact-based" or biographical movies suffered from. :-)

	/JBL
=
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              N1MNF  |                               -- Roxanne Kowalski
From: Jay.Majer@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Upcoming Films
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 07 Jan 93  21:31:00

CD> I maintain a list of upcoming films for a BBS on our local
CD> VAX and wish to make
CD> the list more extensive and accurate, so I'm posting it here. If you
CD> have any
CD> additions, updates, or corrections, please mail them to
CD> cjd@reef.cis.ufl.edu
CD> Please include your source for the information for validity. If you wish
CD> me to
CD> post the updated lists periodically, please indicate so by responding to
CD> this
CD> post. All the movies in the list below came from the following sources:
CD> trade magazines, commercials, television program, and newsletters.
(deleted)

You left out Godzilla, a new American Godzilla film by TriStar, which is a
definite go project. It will be out by December 1994. It will be a
big-budget version, with well-known American actors, of the Japanese
original.

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From: anish@pearl.ctt.bellcore.com
Subject: 2ND POSTING: Call for RAM Oscar Nominations
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, New Jersey
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 17:56:08 GMT

Folks - 

As you'll recall, I first sent out this message in early December asking for a poll of Oscar nominations from the r.a.m. readers. Responses have been trickling in, but I'd still like to get a general consensus before the nominations are announced in February. Considering the recent postings of people's choices for
nominations (all of which have been included in my tabulations), let's try to get this consolidated and done right. 

With that in mind, here is the original message:
From: vvdat@diamond.lerc.nasa.gov (Deborah Griffin)
Subject: Re: Movies for 10-13 year olds
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:00:09 GMT

The Princess Bride - Number One!        
Home Alone I and II
ET
Short Circuit
Back to the Future I, II and III
Alladin
Beauty and the Beast
Hook


This is it so far.  I'm sure we'll come up with more.

--
Deborah A. Griffin                     vvdat@diamond.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center             (216) 433-6775
Cleveland, Ohio  44135
"If you think you can, you can.  If you think you can't, you're right!"
From: jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley)
Subject: Re: Movies you were forced to see
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:47:37 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1993Jan5.212108.11802@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> carlos@spanky.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion) writes:
>
>	The Bad News Bears.  terrible movie.
>

I really think this is a terrific movie.  It's an effective satire
on the way parents compete through their children -- especially through
child's sports teams.  It's well-written, well-paced, Walter Matthau 
and the child stars (led by Tatum O'Neil) all give splendid
performances.  Repeat:  A terrific movie.
Spoiler follows

And (except for Rocky)  it's the last time the heros could lose
the big game and do it gracefully.

John D.


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From: dutta@cognex.uucp (Paul Dutta-Choudhury)
Subject: Casting for Jurassic Park movie
Organization: Cognex Corp., Needham, Mass
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:43:05 GMT

Does anyone know what the casting of major roles for Spielbergs
Jurassic Park movie is?

Paul Dutta-Choudhury
Cognex Corp
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From: pkedrosk@student.business.uwo.ca (Paul S. Kedrosky)
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:54:36 GMT

egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:

> In article <1ihh4cINNeti@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.co
> >In article <1993Jan7.144844.16689@Princeton.EDU>  
> >egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:
> >> I KNOW that I don't love the smell of napalm in the morning, and to  
> >me
> >> it's not the smell of victory.  Coppola needs to grow up.
> >> 
> >
> >Are you confusing the point of view of a character in the movie
> >with that of the writer/director?  The character was obviously
> >portrayed as a buffoon for saying things like that.
> 
> NOT!  The officer was portrayed by Robert Duvall, who played Vito
> Corleone's consiglieri, no buffoon at all; Coppola was thus priming us
> to take the officer character seriously.  Furthermore, he was portrayed
> as a brave and effective officer, who did not flinch at incoming fire.
> The confusion was resident in Coppola's mind, who at one and the same
> time looks at the Duvall officer as beneath his "liberal" outlook AND
> above it (films, any more than dreams, are not subject to a law of
> noncontradiction.)
> 
> Indeed, this confusion has informed our entire society since the
> Seventies.  Men will mouth liberal platitudes and cut funding for inner
> city schools on the same day; Clinton was elected on a liberal platform,
> but he's put Chelsea in a private school.  Coppola's films at one and
> the same time say, how limited a man Vito Corleone or the Duvall officer
> was, but how much a man should be admired by us decadent liberal
> panty-wastes.
> 
> In short, it's high time to put to rest any notion that the media elite
> in this country is "liberal."

For a little while all of your (I'm sure well intentioned)
deconstructionist blather was very sweet. And I thought "Gee,
but isn't it nice to see such a fine intellectual conversation up on the
ol' Usenet?" Then you start posting the above mumbo-jumbo that sounds
uncomfortably like someone who has been spending too much time inside
the dryer at the local laundromat: "Set it to fluff once I'm in, ok?"

I feel much better now though; the signal-to-noise ratio just fell
back through the floor. Dorothy, we're back in Usenet.

p


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From: gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie)
Subject: Re: x can't make money
Date: 06 Jan 93 19:33:58 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: rec

In article <1993Jan6.030251.26936@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.1489.35978@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>
>>There's another reason why MALCOLM X isn't a blockbuster, and that
>>reason has nothing to do with racism:
>
>What about releasing it in December. This is 'Home Alone' season, not
>serious movie time (speaking from a marketing point of view). I wonder
>how 'Malcolm X' would have done if released during the long hot summer.

This is just plain wrong.  December and January is the time when
studios release films that have hopes for Academy Awards (the theory
being that they are fresher in the minds of Academy voters and that
voters are more willing to vote for a film still in release instead of
on video.)

December is also a time for "family" movies (for lack of a better
phrase) such as Aladdin and Home Alone.  This notwithstanding, summer
is the traditional bubble-gum and action movie season and I imagine
Malcom X would have fared worse during that time of the year..

-Greg



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From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: Seat reservations in movie theatres
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:56:50 GMT

In article <bruce.0di7@zuhause.MN.ORG> bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht) writes:
>The new UCI movie theatre at Port Solent (near Portsmouth, UK) assigns seats
>for all of their movies, even if the theatre is nearly empty (as it was when
>I saw SWF).  I can see the advantage if the theatre is nearly full, especially
>for those who wish to buy tickets early, do some shopping and return just
>before the movie starts.  Does anyone know of other theatres doing this,
>and if so, do you prefer it?  I was surprised at first, since they don't
>do this in the US, and a bit amused, since they pretty much lumped at the
>movie-goers, less than one fourth of the capacity, all in the same area
>towards the back and middle of the theatre.

  Here in Finland many (most?) of the theatres assign the seats. 
  I prefer it this way.  No rush to get in the theatre to get the
  best seats, for example.  If the theatre is nearly empty, the usher
  often informs people that they may sit wherever they want (unless someone
  has reserved that seat and wished to sit just there).

  I just called a local theatre and reserved four adjacent
  seats to the 18:30 show of "Death Becomes Her".  No hassle; I'll just
  pick up the tickets at 6PM and that's that.

	- Mika
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Re: The Crying Game
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:31:44 GMT

There have been many SPOILER alerts already on this great film.  Has anyone
found the real answer to the question about Jaye Davidson? This was a fine
peformance in any case but there is still some debate about Jaye. The ads about
consideration of the performance by "supporting actor" may be deliberately
misleading. Does anyone know for sure?
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From: allan@microware.com (R. Allan Kirkhart)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:09:20 GMT

In article <13850@optilink.COM> brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.183616.4623@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:
>> I thought of this topic when I was browsing through alt.peeves.
>> 
>> What are some of the things that drive you nuts when you go to see a movie at a
>> theater?
>> 
>> 1: People who have to talk constantly, especially if they have to narrate the
>> whole damn film to their stupid companions!
>
>Worse: if they're just socializing on some topic having nothing at all to do
>with the film.  Particularly if one or more of the people sound drunk.

Worst: (and please, all of you peevers take note) People who are vocal in
theaters by complaining to their companions about the thing that just 
peeved them.

The gripes that have been posted on this thread are all valid.  Most, 
however fall under the categories of "Life is not perfect" and "Shit
happens".  The ones I find very difficult to ignore/tolerate are the
"I am too self absorbed to care about you" behaviors of my fellow 
movie-goers.

The worst (for setting getting me really hot), is when someone gets 
annoyed, and rather that doing something constructive (talking with 
manager about problem, asking neighbors politely to be quiet, etc.)
they sit through entire movie bitching audibly about whatever is annoying 
them.

As a reader of this thread, if you find that you do this, please be
considerate of others' feelings next time you get peeved and don't ruin
the film for them just because it is ruined for you.
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The most underrated actress strikes again...
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:06:34 GMT
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University

In article <2397@hsdndev.UUCP> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:
>That's right,Andie MacDowell will not join the ranks of unemployed in 1993.
>Well,not yet at least...
>
>[Andie MacDowell] has a part in the upcoming new comedy starring Bill Murray. 
>The film is titled "The GroundHog Day" ...

A small correction: The name of the film is "Groundhog Day".

Michael

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From: monitn@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: In-joke during Muppet's Christmas movie.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:40:44 GMT

ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christina Powell) writes:

>ufaustus@mcl.ucsb.edu  writes:
>> In <9212302300.AA13668@caster.suneng> chapmand@chdasic.sps.mot.com (David Chapman) writes:
>> 
>> >Hello,
>> 
>> >Did anyone else see the in-joke during the Muppet's Christmas movie?
>> 
>> >One of the stores had the name "MICKLEWHITE " on the front.
>> 
>> >DC
>> 
>> I guess I'm an idiot, i don't get it  (you can tell by the way I walk!)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 			Dr Faustus
>> 
>Hint: It's Michael Caine's real name.

How about the store (shown twice, I believe) which had the name (partly
obscured) "Statler & Waldorf"?   :)

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu
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