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From: loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re:  city composting sites
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:19:33 CST
Organization: Texas Net Illuminati

Ecology Center Fund <ecologycntr@igc.org> writes:
>
>(Hint: breakdown don't mean the stuff gets less toxic. If table
> salt broke down, you'd get a toxic metal which burst into flames on
>contact with air, and a poison gas once used in chemical warfare . ;))
>

And I would've had a *lot* more fun in high school Chemestry!

Loyd, a reformed pyro


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From: brown@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Pat R. Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Opinions on GURNEY'S Seed & Nursery Co.
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:29:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.

We ordered our seed from Gurney's this year on the recomendation of the 
couple that we bought our place from. These folks swear by Gurney's. 

Our experience was good , they were courteous and efficient on the 
phone and the seeds arrived at the house in good shape. I cannot 
comment on germination rates yet as it is still cool to cold here 
in eastern Washington zone 5. 

Gurney's specializes in colder zone types. We are going to try thier 
53 day sweet corn this year. If you have youngsters be sure to order     
Gurney's 1 cent jumble packs for then. Kids only. 

Regards, Pat
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: tap@cs.toronto.edu (Tony Plate)
Subject: Enquiry about Fungicide "Benlate"
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:43:18 GMT

Does anyone know anything about this fungicide?  I hear
that it is banned in the U.S.  My family in Australia has
been using it to control powdery mildew on grape vines.
Are there any effective alternatives?
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 08:44:00 CDT
From: Nancy Bulinski <U27468@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Elephant Ear Palm (sp)

I purchased a bulb for what I believe is called an "elephant ear"
palm.  Put it in light potting soil in an east window & yes! it
has rooted and a curled green leaf is now about 4 inches high.
The pot is rather small: question, can I repot now in a larger
pot & move it to the west window or should I wait awhile?  When
should I start to fertilize.  I don't remember the "formal" name
... I purchased this particular bulb based on the picture of the
plant shown on the label.   Help appreciated.
From: ecologycntr@igc.org (Ecology Center Fund)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Japanese Beetle Grubs
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:57:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: igc.1453300023
Nf-ID: #R:prcrs.prc.com:3662:cdp:1453300023:000:903
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ecologycntr    Apr  7 08:57:00 1992


Spectricide (aka Diazinon) has been implicated in bird die-offs after use
on golf courses in New England, and in chronic human health problems as well.
It will not reliably break down within the time frame you suggest, either.
Fortunately, there is an alternative.  Milky Spore disease, or Bacillus
popilliae (sp?), a fatal disease of Japanese Beetle grubs (and not much else)
is readily available most places where J. B.s are a problem.  

Cost per application is quite a bit higher than the chemical, but when you
factor in the 20-30 year effective period for Milky Spore, it pays for itself 
in about 4 years or so.  Arlington, Virginia dusted itself with Milky Spore
(by plane, i presume) in the Early '60's, and when I lived there in '84-87, 
Arlington was like a beetle-free oasis in a "ravaged" countryside.  The stuff
really works.  It's easy to apply, too: just a regular lawn spreader.

chris
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Fuchsia mite
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:53:02 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Craig at National Wildlife Federation <nwfuw@igc.org> writes:
> You may want to try a new botanical pesticide that is just being released
> this spring.  Its marketed by SAFER/RINGER and is called Neemesis(there is 
> a second name that is being tested also).  This has a very low toxicity to
> beneficials and I have used it indoors on thrips with fairly good success.
> I recall mites being listed as a target but the label fails me now.  You
> might want to call Ringer to see if its registered/useful.  

Neem is a broad-spectrum insecticide -- and I haven't found any
real information about toxicity to other-than-insects (though I
know it's low human toxicity).

Chinaberry tree leaves and bark (Melia azadarach) can be brewed into
a tea and sprayed like neem. (it's a closely related species widely
grown in warmer areas of the US).  Don't have any formulations handy,
but the usual ROT is as much water as leaves and bark; soak for 24 hours,
strain off the resulting "tea", add a bit of dish detergent as a wetting
agent, and spray.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept UNI
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: djd@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.j.daulton)
Subject: Re: Drought-tolerant lawn grasses (was Zoysia)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:43:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.195034.23199@raid.dell.com> ruby@raid.UUCP (Ruby Pan-Ratzlaff) writes:
 
>Just to throw my 2 cents worth in.  The most drought tolerant grass I
>know is a recently developed strain called buffalo grass.  I think it
>was developed in Texas.  It may be a little pricey 'cause it's so new.
>It looks like bermuda grass, and does not tolerate shade well.  I read
>somewhere it's watering cycle is 21 to 45 days at a time (compared to 
>Zoysia's 7 to 10 days)!  It can live through temperatures from 30 degrees 
>below zero to 120 degrees!  Now, that's one hardy grass!  I don't know
>if it's available outside of Texas, though.

You left out the most important point--it stays short and rarely needs
cutting.  I  an all-female lawn (planted from female plugs only) flowers
stay below grass level, and virtually no cutting is required.

Dave Daulton, AT&T, Columbus, Ohio (site of AmeriFlora '92)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: cl@lgc.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: garlic help
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:27:06 GMT

In article <DRK.92Apr6154258@sculpin.cs.washington.edu> drk@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Kerns) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>If you are in MN, I don't know if you can even plant in the fall because of
>the hard freeze you might get.  In Washington you can plant any time but
>fall is best for a fall harvest.
			.
			.
			.
It's OK.  Allium and most all the rest of
the Liliacea suffer freezing well.  Stick
your cloves in the ground, whenever you
get a chance.  I almost never pull mine
up; I just keep chomping on the greens.
Yum.
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claird@Neosoft.com
From: cusanell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dominic Cusanelli)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Bean plants per person?
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:42:09 GMT
Reply-To: cusanell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dominic Cusanelli)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


     I think you would be better off planting green beans with different
harvest times, rather than stagering your plantings.  Staggered
plantings only disturb the growing plants.  I grow the following 3
bean types.  All get planted at the same time in the same row.
Early Tendercrop, 55 days, a bush bean
Kentucky Wonder, 65 days, a pole bean, and by far the best
Forgotten name (sorry), 78 days, pole bean
     I don't know how many for you to plant.  I plant an 12ft row,
seeds spaced 3 inches apart.  This feeds 5 all summer, no jarrring.

     Dominic S. Cusanelli
From: cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl D. Lovejoy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Harley-Davidson Brand Oil
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:28:54 GMT
Organization: Astm Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   In all of the recent moto-gas I have noticed new adds for H-D bramd
oil.  This oil is supposedly made especially for the thumping nature of
the V-twin.  My question is does the bottles that the oil comes in leak
as much oil as the bikes themselves?  And if so was this designed in to
provide more realism? :-))
    
    Sorry about that it was really to easy, and is coming up on finals
so I have to make sure I am stress free before then. B-/

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:48:27 GMT

pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Peter Young) writes:
>From article <1992Apr7.140801.8480@javelin.sim.es.com>, by blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers):

>>>	Belt:	best

>> Much like a chain, but doesn't need lubing, costs more to replace, and
>> is limited to engines with moderate power output.

>Well I suppose it depends on your definition of moderate, but Kawasaki
>did race a belt-driven 250 a number of years ago, before the widespread
>use of Kevlar in toothed belts. I think the technology exists but the
>market doesn't, yet.

Well, I haven't seen belt drive used on any 100+ HP bikes, only Harleys
and small Kawasakis. From what I've read, the power handling ability of
the belt is related to its width, so you'd have to have a very wide belt
on a ZX-11. But I think you're right, there probably is no market for a
bike with a 6-8" wide belt drive. :-)

>Another way to drastically improve the life of a chain, which no-one has
>mentioned yet, is to run it fully enclosed like MZ do.

Yamama did it with their non-chopper styled V-twin of about 10 years ago.
XV920 or something like that? I think they sold two or three of them, so
that's probably why it hasn't been seen lately.
-- 
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blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
From: henry@ginger.sri.com (Henry A. Pasternack)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Want to ride "lead vehicle" in a bicycle criterium?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:19:43 GMT
Reply-To: henry@ginger.sri.com (Henry A. Pasternack)
Distribution: ca
Organization: SRI International


   I have been asked if I can help out the Stanford bicycle team
by riding my motorcycle during the criterium races, to be held 
Saturday, April 25.  Regretably, it looks as though I will be away
on a business trip.  It would be great if two or three motorcyclists
would volunteer to help out in this unique and enjoyable activity.

   The job of the lead vehicle is to sweep the course in front of
the pack to warn of approaching bicyclists.  This means driving
at about 25-30 MPH for thirty to fifty laps of a mile-long course
per race.  The amusement factor includes:

   1) Participating in a meaningful and productive way to the
      exciting sport of bicycle racing.

   2) Being able to hotdog around a race course without the
      hassles of police brutality or lap fees.

   3) Keeping track of race progress and informing spectators
      of lap counts, times, etc.

   4) Feeling self-important and bossing people around.

   5) Occasional bouts of panic upon realizing the racers are
      about to catch the lead rider.

   6) Tormenting stragglers who are required to quit the race
      when they are lapped by the pace vehicle.

   I have been told that motorcycle participants may expect to be
bribed by free gifts of Stanford cycling team sweatshirts, caps, 
and other paraphernalia.  For motorcyclists with an interest in
bicycle racing, this is a great way to get involved in a really
exciting day of top-notch racing.

   Don't be a weenie!  Write today for details!

-Henry
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Any Interest in DoD Caps?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:03:16 GMT


I was posting to see if there might be any interest in DoD baseball style
caps.  The same guy who made the shirts makes a high quality, all cloth
cap with our DoD Logo screened onto it.

I haven't done pricing yet, but think they'll be reasonable.  

If there's interest, please let me know.

Thanks.

Arnie
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: O.K., How About DoD MousePads?????
From: rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Bob Pasker)
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:57:13 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State U. -- Dept. of History

see, when blaine and laz list all the zillions of pieces of dod stuff
they want, they're (mostly) joking.  this man arnie, he no joke!
while mousepads are a brilliant idea, i suggest dod mouseBALLS!  with
logo. and little girls to chase them. . . oops wrong metaphor.
anyway, arnie, what college did you say we're putting your kids
through?
-- 
-- bob pasker 
-- rbp@sutro.sfsu.edu 
-- not speaking for: San Francisco State -- Dept. of History
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:53:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1283
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

: >The simplest explanation I've heard is that it's just the pinion gear
: >trying to climb the ring gear.


davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise) writes:

: This would be absolutely true, except for one little detail that sinks it
: completely: the pinion _can't_ climb the ring.  Reason: the final drive
: assembly is rigid and holds all the pieces in a fixed relationship.  

My dear boy, you've been dismantling the wrong part of your motorcycle
(although you should have gotten this one right, as you had your wife's
rear end completely stripped not so long ago. Her Virago, I mean.)

Picture for a moment your CX500 squatting like a great lump on its stand.
Consider the shaft/wheel/tirepatch relationship: about 90 degrees, more
or less. Now imagine the shaft rising as the tirepatch sits in one place.
Behold: The pinion is several degrees further up the ring gear. The
engine force has raised the shaft instead of moving the motorcycle forward.

But that just confuses the picture. The engine force tries to rotate the
shaft. The shaft tries to rotate the wheel. Anything that lets the wheel
rotate will absorb the engine force; on any ordinary shaft bike the
wheel can do a significant fraction of a revolution by just bending
the motorcycle at the swingarm pivot (until spring force is too high or
something jams). Since this requires less force than pushing that great
fat watersloshing pintsized ... Sorry, didn't mean to get personal...
motorcycle forward, the shaft rises before the motorcycle moves.


: Now, can anyone explain how the paralever minimizes shaft jacking?

Given the above simplification, certainly. The paralever suspension forces
the wheel to move in a (more) vertical path; you can picture it as the axle
being forced backward as the swingarm rises up. Thus the wheel doesn't
rotate, so the shaft doesn't, so the engine force is expended moving that
great wallowing pig^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the motorcycle forward instead of up.

(If you go back to the pinion-climbs-the-ring-gear, the extra shaft
rotates the housing down to compensate for shaft rise, so the 
shaft/wheel/tirepatch angle remains closer to 90 degrees.)


: David Wise (DoD#427, davewi@orca.wv.tek.com, Porky -- 1980 CX500C)


          Martin Golding             |  I have five motorcycles, 
DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #0002  |   the brands are important to ME.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: LOOKING FOR A SUCTION
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> In the ol days if the dent wasn't creased they used air pressure
-> through the filler opening.

 Might be easier to tape off the vent hole on the cap, then feed air
through the petcock.
From: jrg@mips.com (John Galloway)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: recomendations for insurance company for first time rider
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:04:10 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Galloway Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: moosehead.mips.com
Originator: jrg@moosehead.mips.com

I find that GEICO ("cycle guard" ads everywhere) will not insure you in
CA if you have under 18 months experience.  So (before I just dump this
problem in my agents lap) any recomendations on what company to go to?
(I'm 38, good driving rec, MSF grad, etc.).  thanks.
	-jrg

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From: mitch@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Robert R. Mitchell (SEAS admin))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: dirt...
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:40:22 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


What's the address for the dirtbike mailing list again?
(Or did they create rec.motorcycles.dirt or something?)
Thanks!

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 11:02:50 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Yuasa gel cells

We used a lot of gel cells in Canada, but in submarine applications, not
motorcycles. I would have thought that they didn't have the cranking
power for a bike.  Does a race bike just use a battery for a current
sink?

Anyway, Newark Electronics
        4801 N. Ravenswood Ave.
        Chicago, IL  60640-5100
        (312) 784-5100

They have branches everywhere.  Page 624 of their latest catalog lists
gel cells but doesn't call them that.  They are called "sealed lead acid
maintenance-free rechargeable batteries."  If you look at the picture
closely, there's something called the "Electrolite Retentive Seperator
Material."  That's the "gel."

Pioneer also carries them but I don't have their address.

Hope this helps.

Peter
From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: periodic return visit -- nothing ever changes i see
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:34:36 GMT
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Apr14.112050.13737@thinkage.on.ca> 
kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes) writes:
>In article <205@zx11.UUCP> joe@zx11.cactus.org writes:
>>kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes) writes:
>>thanks for the "return visit" ken, but no thanks. take your politically
>>correct head and stick it back up your ass and go back to where you came
>>from (are you sure you're not Mr. G. Bush using an alias?).
>politically correct and a former CIA spook in the same breath?
>you americans certainly use a different form of english...

I believe that George Herbert Walker Bush was the first major American
politician to use the phrase "Politically Correct" as a form of derision.
Depending on one's political philosophy, one could view the combination
of Bush and PC as either an oxymoron, or simply moronic.  :-)  BTW, an
anagram for George Herbert Walker Bush is Huge Berserk Rebel Warthog, not
that any of this has a damn thing to do with motorcycling.

>      "Republicans understand the importance of bondage between
>         a mother and child."       -Dan Quayle

An excellent quote, demonstrating the intricate and subtle workings of 
Mr. Quayle's mind.

Steve Garnier - 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF Special with 156,000 miles and *climbing*
DoD #00000005 - KotF (The Daemon's Byte and Keeper of the Flame), NC Chapter
Internet:steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu  UUCP:{?,gatech,uunet}!mcnc!bucolix!steve
From: starr@carina.unm.edu (Gregory Starr ME.DEPT)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: '78 Yamaha XT500
Keywords: pros/cons?
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:26:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.98yj-yf
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I just spotted a '78 XT500 for sale for $595.  It has had one
owner, has 9000 miles, looks great.  I realize there have been
advancements in DP technology since '78, but the price looks
pretty attractive.  I haven't had time to research the XT500
road tests yet, but I would appreciate it if anyone who knows
anything about the old XTs would clue me in.

Thanks!

	Greg Starr
	Univ. of New Mexico
	M.E. Dept.

	starr@poppet.unm.edu
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From: davis@ee.rochester.edu (Al Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bicycles & liability insurance
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:06:50 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Apr6.194251.5001@access.digex.com> jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>..................................
>Yes, things like this happen.  But I think that the incidence of accidents
>caused by bicycles is low enough that mandatory liability insurance
>shouldn't be required... where do you draw the line? For example a friend
>of mine was playing frisbee in the street and ran into a parked car.  He
>caused a pretty substantial dent.  He was not a driver, so therefore
>uninsured, and didn't have any money. I am not even sure auto insurance
>would cover this type of thing.  But anyway the person whose car he
>ran into got screwed because he had no way to pay for it and she
>couldn't get any money out of him short of an expensive lawsuit which would
>not have been worth it.  I don't think that cyclists should be required
>to have mandatory insurance any more than pedestrians should.. certainly
>someone is going to take a loss here and there, but that's life.  You can't
>expect to have every possible situation covered for unless you live in a
>communist society.

"Homeowners" and "renters" insurance covers all this stuff.
Considering all the lawsuits these days, I think this may be as
important as auto insurance.  If someone breaks a toe on a crack in
your sidewalk you could be sued for a lot of money.  If you hurt
someone with a car the penalties are clearly defined by law in
such a way to protect the insurance company against loss.

The case (that I didn't include here) where the bicycle damaged the car
indicated that it was handled in the same way as if it were two cars, or
any case involving an automobile in any way.  The victim is the loser.

al.
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