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From: dleslie@aludra.usc.edu (David Leslie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Emmies, Young Indy, and rumors in general
Date: 1 Sep 1992 21:03:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Sep1.083635.3836@desire.wright.edu> arang@desire.wright.edu writes:
[much of the post was deleted - not that it was boring - but ya know ;) ]
>So here's my final point.  Let them do what they want to do and we'll all be
>happy in the end.  Try to second guess them, and you'll only be disappointed.
>
>Amy Rang 
>Wright State University

	Hmmm, so how happy should we have been with Howard the Duck, or
Willow for that matter? Or a lot of marginal films that they want to do. 
Aside from Indiana Jones (no small achievement!!) Lucasfilm would have
been a lot better of doing more Star Wars. And I think a lot of us would
be quite happy! :):):) <- like that happy

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From: gt0754b@prism.gatech.EDU (John Richard Deyonke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Update to Falcon In Tractor Beam
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:00:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


As a follow up to my question about the escape pods:

 Many people suggested to me that Han either DID launch the
pods as a diversion escaping Tatooine or that he had them removed   
or somehow rigged already for his smuggling operation. I can
buy both of these lines of reasoning so now let me follow up
with another problem which I should have put in my first post:

The  layout of the Falcon (according to the West End RPG) shows
that there are two escape pods, one above the ramp and another
one at the same location on the port side of the ship.  Looking
at the film, the MF does have both pods intact while in the DS.
And even though Han is my alltime favourite movie character, I
doubt even he is cocky enough to run around like he does without
the MF's escape pods.  Any new theories?


  I'd be willing to say West End made a mistake in their
layout of the MF.  But that would be too easy.  Plus, I still
think that after reading the log, the first thing the Imperials do 
is check the status (or existence) of the MF's escape pods.  Of course,
the Imperials are dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb.
More thoughts wanted...


Jay

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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: Star Wars script distribution: new info
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:04:28 GMT

In article <BtyqKq.9xB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>
>    [Lotsa stuff about scripts deleted]
>
>Here's one tantalizing tidbit to tide you over: in the next to last draft
>of Return of the Jedi, Lando died in the Death Star explosion along with
>the Millennium Falcon! Note that this explains Han's cryptic remark
>when he and Lando part that Han has a feeling like he'll never see his
>ship again. Amazing!

The way I heared it, this was dropped after being shown to sample audiences;
the people didn't like Lando dying, so Lucas changed it to keep him alive.
This was mentioned in several fanzines around the time the movie came out.

The Walrus

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Canon...the Official Word from Lucasfilm.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:14:59 GMT

In <1992Aug30.225635.16047@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay) writes:

>In article <1992Aug30.211810.29350@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
>>I DON'T THINK SO!!!  If this happens (all three movies coming out
>>within 6 months of each other) I will ... I will ... I don't know,
>>I'll so something extremely embarrassing and/or painful in public

>	Better do it quick.  Lucas plans on filming the movies at the same,
>ala Back to the Future II and III, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were
>all released very closely together...I'd have guessed a year, but 6 months
>is 'do-able'

Lucas HAS TO film the movies all at once, otherwise (hate to put it
this bluntly) he will grow old and die before they are filmed,
nevermind released! 

I know the man's been busy...I know that he wanted a break between
Jedi and the new series...but he'd better get moving, or no one is
going to care!

And...I'm not putting out a lot of hope that the new movies will be
huge blockbusters like the first three. I rented the original series
the other night, and was amazed: low body counts, little blood, no
sex, virtually non-existant gratuitous violence. By today's standards
these make Disney flicks look XXX! Sad to say, I tend to think the
only way the new Star Wars films could be "successful" in today's
market would be for more violence, more sex, less plot, more
destruction, etc.. or, in other worlds, be everthing Star Wars was
not.

Just my thoughts.

Michael





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From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Empire - cut scenes?
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:03:00 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Aug30.212239.29641@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
>
>In a previous article, tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman) says:
>
>>In article <l9srbbINNa2h@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>>>In article <BtpDIL.5yL@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone know of any scenes for Empire Strikes Back that were filmed
>>>>but not used?
>>>>From SW we have a scene of Biggs near the end that was cut, and for
>>>>ROTJ, a sandstorm. But I've never heard of any cut scenes to ESB.
>>>
>>>There are at least 2 that I know of:
>>>
>>>Shot of the Wampa dragging Luke accross the snow to his lair.
>>>
>
>You know, I'm going to really, REALLY dread saying this, but ...
>(smallest letters possible) I remember seeing that ...

You can see this in "SP-FX The making of The Empire Strikes Back" hosted by
R2D2 and Mark Hammil.  It isn't actual 35mm movie footage, but sort of behind
the scenes, behind the camera type footage.  Kinda what you might see in a
documentry.  In one part, the actor in the Wompa suit stumbles and falls
backward on either a dummy or a Luke stand-in.  All of this was presented in
a light-hearted blooper style segment.

Glenn.......
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From: broaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BROWN ADRIAN)
Subject: Re: Was Wedge a Spy?
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:02:08 GMT

bh7030307@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes:

>Here's a question that has been puzzling me for quite some time.  In the
...
>across the galaxy on wild hunches.  Therefore, my speculation is that there was
>a spy on board the blockade runner, one who knew that it was headed for the
>backwater world of Tatooine.  My guess would be the ship's captain, who I
>believe is Captain Antilles.

>There has been fan speculation that Cpt Antilles is the father of Wedge, which
>would now place Wedge's loyalty in question.  Several points:

	Remember, Antilles died rather nastily at the hands of Vader during
this encounter, so you have to ask, would Wedge be so dedicated to the 
Empire as to betray, and have Vader kill, his father?

	Personally, I believe the 'spy' idea is probably correct - but I
doubt that Wedge was the man in question, IMHO. 

The Brown Dog.
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Does anyone know the name....
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:41:07 GMT


walrus> Now what were the names of those pig-like guards in Jabba's
walrus> place?  My term buddy thinks Fred and Ethel, but I think he's
walrus> been sniffing burnt circuitboards too long.

Gamorean (sp?) Guards
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Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:16:54 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer model help
 <SS.92Aug25080042@wpi.WPI.EDU> <HHl-4!#@engin.umich.edu>

In article <HHl-4!#@engin.umich.edu>, yyrkoon@lucky.engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Jon
Kabbe ) says:
>
>I would be careful which paints you use if you decide to spray paint the model
>because most paints won't stick to most spray paints and will end up peeling
>off. Depending on how large it is it might be better to prime the sucker and
>paint it by hand.

I was just doing the Millenium Falcon model this week and a method I used was
to add a lot of water to the paint and then paint the "high tech" looking
panels with it so that the paint falls into the nooks and gives it a real
worn look.  It seems to have come out really well, and I think I'll paint
my Star Destroyer like that when I get it.  BTW, I used a light gray for that
"weathering" effect and I did it before while the parts were still on the
plastic trees.

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From: cad214@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("P.Craig")
Subject: Re: Action Figures and such
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:46:43 GMT

For anybody out there that is interested, especially those living near Glasgow,
there is a stall in the Barra`s marketplace that sells old star wars toys. So far
I've picked up a  Millenium Falcon for #6, or $12, a Scout Walker for $8, a
B-wing for $20, a Y-Wing for $12, a shuttle for $6 and numerous figures for about
$1 each, including Admiral Ackbar. They did have the Luke Skywalker stormtrooper
figure from the first film for $15 which was a bit beyond my resources at the
time.Oh, and I also got a snowspeeder for $10. bit of a bargain really. 



Lumiya
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:20:48 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Millenium Falcon model help wanted

I'm just finishing up my MF model and I noticed something weird for the
cargo bay in the back.  There is a panel that I'm suppoed to glue into place,
but then there' also a part that seems to fit over it and has slots for
placing parts which did not come with the model and are not mentioned in the
directions (in fact this piece isn't even mentioned in the dircetions).  If
anyone has any clue as to what I should do with it, let me know soon, since
I'm about to finish it and need to know before I close the whole thing up...

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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: Star Wars script distribution: new info
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:30:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.192331.810@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_cartheybr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
> Just how was Lando and the MF supposed to die.  Did they not make it out
> of DS2 or were ambushed after they got out.  Wait...I may have just answered
> my own question, though not clearly!> 

I think they weren't supposed to have made it out of the DS in time...take a
look at that sequence again; the editing looks pretty shoddy.  Lando's and
Nien Nunb's whooping and hollering is pretty generic, and looks like it might
have come from another point (the lowering of the shields, maybe?).  Haven't
seen RotJ in a while (Blasphemy!) so the memory is fuzzy.

The Walrus

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From: mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr)
Subject: Re: By the Way...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:01:51 GMT

In article <MMADSEN.92Aug28101059@sawtooth.eecs.umich.edu> mmadsen@eecs.umich.edu (Martin Madsen) writes:
>
>	By the way, In '77, '80 or '83 does anyone know if the "Cast" of
>the SW Trilogy or any individuals appeared hosting Saturday Night
>Live?  I know this doesn't have much to do with SW, but I would have
>liked to have seen Darth Vader as a stand up comic?

I know that Carrie Fisher hosted Saturday Night Live, but I don't think 
any of the others ever did.  (I just recently saw a rerun of the Carrie
Fisher SNL on some cable comedy channel.)   I think it would be great to
have Vader as a stand-up, but it'd be pretty hard to get James Earl Jones'
voice in synch with David Prowse in a live act.


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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Subject: Re: From Star Wars to Jedi ....
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 21:32:51 GMT


In a previous article, ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) says:

>>>>>> On 28 Aug 92 01:23:58 GMT, umwieb69@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Michael J. Wiebe) said:
>
>umwieb69> Does anyone out there know where I can get a copy of this
>umwieb69> tape?  I tried to order it the other day (From Star Wars to
>umwieb69> Jedi the Making Of A Saga), and was told the next day that
>umwieb69> it was discontinued(!!!!!!).  SO any info would be
>umwieb69> appreciated.  Perhaps someone has a copy to sell, or will
>umwieb69> dub it for me (illegal, eh?).  PLEASE RESPOND!!!!!!!!!!
>
>I just ordered From Star Wars to Jedi. I assume it is a legal copy
>since it's a big mail order type place. It was $12.98
>
>Intergalactic Trading Co.
>P.O. Box 1516 
>Longwood, FL 32750
>(407) 831-8344
>

I've been getting this company's catalogues for years.  My guess
is that it is a legal copy, but that it's definitely NOT new (in
the sense of freshly made.  It could very well be unopened.)

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From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Blockade Runner question
Keywords: tractor beam
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:17:16 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


I always figured that the tractor beam was just used to pull the Rebel BR
into the bay of the Imperial Cruiser.  Once it was in there, it was gripped
and held firmly by a mechanical arm or something.  It have to be contacted by
some other apparatus anyway for the stormtroopers to board it.  So then they
just turn off the beam, since the BR has been captured, and the pods are free
to escape.  Besides, when they notice the pod, the stormtroopers say something
like, "there goes another one, WAIT, no life forms register in it."  They
didn't bother to shoot because they figured it misfired.  This might imply
that they had been shooting pods that DID have potential human escapees it
in them.  Maybe they shut the tractor beam off to give the stormtroopers
some target practice.
Just a guess.
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From: hugh@pyra.co.uk CHANGE THIS TO YOUR NAME
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Subject: Luke and self-levitation
Summary: Summed up or condensed: short: brief: compendious etc...
Keywords: Jedi levitation
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:05:54 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Ltd.

Good folks,

Someone (was it you Jules ?) posted recently asking if anyone
could recall if any of those versed in the Force demonstrated
powers of self-levitation.

Well, I can't recall any offhand, although I do wonder how on
Earth (well, Bespin actually) Luke  manages to fall away from
his confrontation  with  Vader  in TESB, straight into one of 
those vent-type things. Was this Luke playing with gravity, a
limited form  of self-levitation, or do those vents just suck
rather hard ?

I'd be intrigued to have your ideas on this.

Best regards everyone,

Hugh.
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From: ss@sparkplug.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer model help
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<SS.92Aug25080042@wpi.WPI.EDU> <HHl-4!#@engin.umich.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:22:05 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:33:02 EDT, yyrkoon@lucky.engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Jon Kabbe ) said:

yyrkoon> Originator: yyrkoon@lucky.engin.umich.edu

yyrkoon> I would be careful which paints you use if you decide to
yyrkoon> spray paint the model because most paints won't stick to most
yyrkoon> spray paints and will end up peeling off. Depending on how
yyrkoon> large it is it might be better to prime the sucker and paint
yyrkoon> it by hand.

No. Most MODEL paints will stick to each other. I use Testers paints
myself and find them to be the best paints for kits. And avoid
painting it by hand. It will take forever. The paint will dry unevenly
also, and you will get brush strokes in it. Get some Testors paints in
spray cans. I guarantee you will have no problem.


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From: BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu (Brian Panulla, MooCow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Dark Empire: NOT CANON!!??
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:10:18 GMT
Organization: Penn $tate Univer$ity

In article <1992Aug30.081908.21134@athena.cs.uga.edu>, jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu
(Chuck Jordan) says:
>
>
>We've already SEEN stuff released that was completely refuted by the movies.
>(e.g. SPLINTER OF THE MIND's EYE, the "info" cards released with the chewing
>come cards that gave different ages for Luke and Leia, the Marvel comic
>series that had Leia running into a Boba Fett world while looking for Han,
>etc.)

Ummm, I fail to see any way in which this story (from SW Comics #68-69) is
invalidated by any of the movies! Did you read anything into this story that
I didn't?

This was one the good ones!
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From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars Movies
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:04:06 GMT

mmartin@guardian.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin) writes:
>According to issue #16 of the Lucasfilm Fan Club magazine, Issue#17 due
>out next month will have a detailed interview with George Lucas.  This
>interview, it says, will answer all questions about the new Star Wars films.

   Hmmmmmm.....  Now why would Lucas be revealing secrets about movies
which are supposedly being released five years from now?  Methinks that
something is in the works for the upcoming year.  Be sure to mark
May 21, 1993 on your calendar, folks.

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From: z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
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Subject: Re: Does anyone know the name....
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:13:23 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <15154@umd5.umd.edu>, walrus@bessel.umd.edu (Grig Larson) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.184731.9128@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> bmcm@beech.lle.rochester.edu (Brian McMaster) writes:
> 
>>Also, what was the name of the Creature that Luke killed by closing
>>the gate on when it was about to eat him (TESB I think).  This was in
>>Jaba's place.
> 
> The Ranchor.

	Rancor it think.

>  
>  
> Now what were the names of those pig-like guards in Jabba's place?  My term
> buddy thinks Fred and Ethel, but I think he's been sniffing burnt circuitboards
> too long.

	Well, in fantasy circles we'd call them orcs, but I think they were
called, oh hell, I can't remember...

Brandon Cope

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From: cad214@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("P.Craig")
Subject: Re: Rise of the Empire
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:37:53 GMT

About two months ago I received a copy of an article from the net titled Bane of
the Jedi. This was supposed to have been the prequel to Star Wars, and was taken
from the adventures of Obi Wan Kenobi. The start of the story tells how Anakin
and Ben are fighting on a planet called Sigma Vulcanis, which is inhabited by the
Lords of the Sith. When Vader scores a perfect 10 on his dive into the lava pit,
they retrieve him, and build his life sustaining machinery. Elsewhere, Palpatine
has begun to take over the remains of the Senate, and Bail Organa is preparing to
leave for Alderaan. Ben Kenobi returns to the planet Jahntor to help Anakins
wife, unfortunately named Lady Arcadia Skywalker, only to find she has been taken
prisoner by the Emperor, who knows about the kids she's carrying and intends to
kill her. Kenobi helps her escape from the prison, and on the ship, she
gives birth to Luke and Leia. The Emperor realises this, and orders all newborn
children killed. He then sends Vader out to kill all the Jedi Knights with the
help of Boba Fett. Kenobi and Madame Skywalker are given protection on Alderaan
by Bail Organa, and Kenobi then leaves for Tatooine with Luke, leaving
Arcadia(!!) with Leia on Alderaan, where she works as a servant in the Royal
Household until she snuffs it about two years later. Fini.


Lumiya
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