From: emev02@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Oral)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Identification of the maestro can.
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:17:38 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: Edinburgh University


>From: mario@meng.emory.edu (** maestro **)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
>Subject: Turk=Musluman Degildir (**maestro**)

Identification of Can Maestro from his claims:

Claims of Maestro:

Claim 1:
>Eger ortada bir sorun varsa ve cozum isteniyorsa, bu Sn.Bay 
>Muhammed bey'in sempatizanlari Turkiye'nin 1 numarali sorunudur ve oncelikle 
>bu sorunun halledilmesi gerekmektedir.

They are the ones who kicked the enemy out, so the Turkiye is theirs, not
of kafirs.
Refer to Kurtulus Savasi, the savers of the Turkiye who attacked the enemy
saying what? They remembered their Creator not Marxs or any other kafir!
(I do not know whether Marx was a kafir or not though)

Claim 2:
>Ve hatta bu sorun dunyaninda oncelikli sorunudur.

Refer to Israeli Minister who just iterated the same claim.
Or any kafir to that respect.  This is the promise of Allah that
the Muslims will have to encounter the enemy who are either kafir 
or mislead ignorant folk.

Claim 3:
>Bu radikal muslumanlarin dunyayi yoketmesinden once
>kendilerinin yokedilmesi gereklidir.

Refer to what Radovan Karadzic (Serbian Leader) advised to Europeans during
the London Peace talks.  He iterated the same thing to justify the genocide
of the Bosnian Muslims. Also refer to Israeli policy regarding the Palestinians.

Claim 4:
>Din'in toplum hayatindaki yeri,toplumu meydana getiren insanlarin hayatindaki 
>karsilastigi soyut olaylari kolaylastirmak olmalidir,zorlastirmak degil.

Refer to Church leaders who changed Christianity into Churchianity 
"to make it easy and attractive for people."

Claim 5:
>Islam, gelmis gecmis en hosgorusuz,en merhametsiz ve en yikici dindir.

I would not expect Islam to be different for a kafir, 
it will especially be so in the Hereafter (The Grave, The Last Day, The Hell)
as Allah(SWT) promised to unbelievers.

Claim 6:
>Bilgileri Ilkokul Hayat Bilgisi ile Lise Ahlak arasindaki bir
>cizgide gidip gelen,patalojik temsilcileri gibi kendiside son derece 
>cagdisi'dir.

If you do not provide proper education for the Ulamah
what do you expect the followers to be like?
Alhamdulillah the situation is changing, and soon the Light will prevail
over the Darkness.  As it has been seen in sct.

>Maestro Can

Sonuc:
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Maestro Bey, sizin kafaniz cok karisik.  Kendinize(eger Turk oldugunuzu
iddia ediyorsaniz) ait hicbirsey kalmamis kafanizda.  Israillileri, 
Sirplari ve Kilise papazlarini taklitten baska bir idealiniz kalmamis gibi.
Burada cogu yuksek tahsil yapmis veya yapmakta olanlara
bir saygi ibaresi olarak kuru gurultu yerine iddialarinizi
ispat edecek delilleri getirseniz daha akillica olmaz mi?
Yoksa kirik plak gibi ikide bir ayni hikayeyi tekrar etmeniz
hala sizin kitabiniza inananlari dus kirikligina ugratabilir.



Hamid


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