HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

Regarding the HP48 display missing a column of pixels...I believbe this
has been addressed to some length on comp.sys.ph48.  If I recall
correctly, some of the HP48's (within a certain serial number range),
used a batch of lcd's that sporadically showed this problem.  I have one
in this serial number range but I have not had a problem.  Contact the HP
service dept (look on the back of the owners manual for the number) and I
believe they will correct the problem free of charge, even if it is out
of warrantee!!  Let me know how this turns out.

Good Luck.

Bill Levenson

Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Subject: TI/Casio comment (was Re: <None>)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:54:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.210222.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.185846.13306@uwm.edu>, jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John Stewart Pinnow) writes:
>> 
>> I looking into purchasing a graphing calculator in a few weeks, I am looking
>> for opinions on the graphing calculators that are out there?
>> 
>> I would also like to know the cheepest (under 200) of the calculators? The ones
>> with the most functionality and the ease of use of them?
>> 
>
>I strongly recomend the TI-81.  It is around $70, and is much easier to use
>than the Casios.  Beyond that, in my expericnce, the TI-81 is more powerful
>(has more features) and is faster than all Casio graphers, with the possible
>exception of the CASIO 8000 which I have yet to see.
>The TI-81 also has more memory than any of the Casios I've seen. (2400 bytes)

I'm not sure which Casio you're here refering to. I've owned my Casio
fx-8000G for about 7 years and that has 3.5K of memory altogether. A
friend of mine went back to HK and picked up an fx-8500G with 8K 3 years
ago.

>Of course, the HP48SX still blows both of the TIs away, but we're talking
>closer to $250 for that machine.  And it insists on using reverse polish
>notation.  (Still, a calculator with 256k ROM OS (the HP, I mean) can do some
>pretty amazing things.  "Mathematica in your shirt pocket." Not to mention the
>RAM/ROM card drive and infrared Kermit transfer to other HPs)

The 48S should come in under $200 in the US and has all the niceties of
the SX.

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>      / /         | |  _  _   _  |  \       ________    ______   _______
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>    / /\ \   _____| |   ____/ /  | |\ \     ________       / /
>   /_/  \_\ |_______|  |_____/   |_| \/    |________|     /_/
> 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: HP48 and TI85 comparison - repost please?
From: jasper@bcl.santarosa.edu (Dane Jasper)
Date: 5 Sep 92 11:47:56 PDT
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA
Summary: Could someone please repost or mail the HP48/TI85 comparison?

If someone could please repost the recent comparison of the HP48 and TI85, I 
would be very greatful.  I printed it out and gave it to an instructor, but 
he wants it on disk so that he can compose and post it on the notice board 
here. 

So, if someone could repost it (with the corrections), or better yet, mail 
it to me (so I don't miss it again), I would really appreciate it!

Thanks in advance.............


Dane Jasper
Computing Services
Santa Rosa Junior College

jasper@bcl.santarosa.edu - or - dane@cs.santarosa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops
From: jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John Stewart Pinnow)
Subject: What is the best/favorite graphing calculator? What are the best graphing calcs under $200
Originator: jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:58:46 GMT


I looking into purchasing a graphing calculator in a few weeks, I am looking
for opinions on the graphing calculators that are out there?

I would also like to know the cheepest (under 200) of the calculators? The ones
with the most functionality and the ease of use of them?

What is everyones experience with them?

Thanks in advance,

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From: flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: HP 48SX screen problem...
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:56:09 GMT
Organization: Flavio Casetta, Reg'd HP ISV & OEM of handheld computers.

mwormley@zeus.calpoly.edu (Matt Wormley) writes:

> 
>    I turned on my calculator this morning and to my shocking surprise, 
> a whole column of liquid chrystal on my display is wiped out.  I don't know
> if I broke it or it broke itself.  Does anyone know what it takes to get
> one of these fixed/replaced?  I have a feeling that it is probably big
> bux, but I thought I would ask to see.


See the FAQ list...


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From: thg@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Terry Gong)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:05:30 GMT
Subject: Re: HP95LX sound capabilities?
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

In comp.sys.handhelds, pankaj@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Pankaj Shukla) writes:

    I was curious if HP 95lx has any kind of sound capabilities. Basically, if
    someone wanted to write an application which created 'beeps' would that be
    possible.

YES
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: rharnwel@axion.bt.co.uk (Richard Harwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Series 3  default preferences in PROGRAM editor
Keywords: psion series3
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:05:22 GMT
Reply-To: rharnwel@axion.bt.co.uk (Richard Harwell)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


When editing source code in the Program application, I like to have my preferences set to Indentation of 1, and to hide TAB symbols.
I find though, that when I return to the Program application, it does not    always remember these preferences. They do not appear to be saved with the source code.

Can anyone help me on how to make my personal preferences the default ?

Cheers Richard Harnwell

PS be gentle with me - this is my first ever 'posting'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops
From: andreast@athena.mit.edu (Andreas M Turanski)
Subject: Is there a palmtop/handheld FAQ??
Keywords: FAQ help handhelds palmtops 
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:01:41 GMT

I could have SWORN that I saw a FAQ to comp.sys.palmtops and/or
comp.sys.handhelds at some point. I have been searching for them but
to no avail.  Is there a FAQ?  Are there any archive sites especially 
for Sharp Wizard and Psion Series 3?

All help appreciated,
Andreas.



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From: sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: TI-85 games
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:21:35 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Joel Kolstad (kolstad@cae.wisc.edu) wrote:
: 
: Last year, I bought several of those stereo 2.5mm jacks from Mouse Electronics.
	What's their number?  How much were they?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: chungy2@aix.rpi.edu (Yau Felix Chung)
Subject: HP 41CX for sale.....
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:44:43 GMT


Hello all!  I have a 41CX for sale.  The package includes:

	a. The Adavantage Pack with manual
	b. The Math/Stat Pack with manual
	c. 41CX manuals and case
	d. Rechargable battery pack (unused)

All for $100.00 or best offer.  If interested please e-mail me at
			
			chungy2@aix.rpi.edu


	S
From: bj608@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: HP95LX Conference in California!
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:10:10 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


**************************************************
            HP95 PROGRAMMERS MEETING

DATE:       Saturday, Sept. 26, 1992

TIME:       6pm - Dinner plus Meeting

PLACE:      San Jose Hyatt,  S.J. CA

COST:         $20 includes dinner

RSVP:           1-800-825-9977

ROOMS:        $59    408-993-1234
***************************************************

A meeting for HP95 programmers and advanced users will be held at 
the San Jose Hyatt. The purpose of the meeting is to bring 
together programmers and their knowledge base to provide a better 
understanding of programming in the System Manager environment.

Topics that will be discussed are:

           Software Specifications for HP95 Programs
           Programming under System Manager
           Preview of a DOS Compatible System Compliant API

The ability for a completely DOS compatible System Compliant 
program will be demonstrated as will some surprise goodies.

This meeting is being co-sponsered by ACE Technologies and the HP 
PALMTOP PAPER.

Questions and or RSVPs can be directed to Mark Scardina via 
76711.732@compuserve.com.
From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Opinions on HP42S/HP32S2/28S wanted...
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:53:46
Organization: CSUA/UCB
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In-reply-to: b645zjo@utarlg.uta.edu's message of Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:05:00 GMT

	But the 42S can do more matrix functions than the 48S(X).  

What are the extra functions, and are they useful?  The 42s can't
do the most important thing with matrices, which is finding the eigenvalues.
I'm sure there are 48sx library functions available to do this even
if it's not built in.  Sure, you could program it into a 42s, but
the 42s is so much slower (10x or more) than a 48 that it would be
sheer masochism.  The 48 is also a lot easier to program (though
still awful in my opinion).

Re TI-85 vs. HP42S: I've always liked HP's better than TI's because
of the better construction and more careful user interface.
But with the 42S they seem to have done a TI-like job, so maybe
the TI-85 is a reasonable choice in this case.  I'd still watch it:
HP's tend to have much better numerics (solver, integrator, etc.) than TI.

Note: I own a 42s (happy enough with it; got it cheap; don't really
need a fancy calculator since I have Mathematica on my PC) but have
only played with 48's for a few minutes.  I think the 48 is a a
much better choice if you need a fancy calculator but I don't feel
the need myself.
Organization: Senior, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:11:51 -0400 
From: Greg Howard Rhodes <gr1c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Psion 3

I keep on seeing posts about the Psion 3...I've never seen it. I once
owned something made by Psion, though. It was about 4'' x 9'' x 1'',
and tall, not wide. The case kinda slipped on from the bottom. On the
top were various ports, and I also had a bar-code reader for it. What
was this machine, (I no longer have it) and how does it relate to the
Psion 3?

I was looking through Byte and they had a ad in the back for the
company selling something they called "Palmtop computer", for $300. It
looked kinda one of the Franklin dictionaries, but had the word Psion
on it. What is this?

In general, a short review of the Psion 3 would be great.

Greg Rhodes
gr1c@andrew.cmu.edu
From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: comp.sys.handhelds
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:07:13 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

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> SUBSCRIBE HANDHELDS Chuck Dinsmore


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: dbowman@warp (Don A. Bowman)
Subject: Atari Portfolio general
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:40:51 GMT

A couple of questions for you Portfolio users (any and all replies
solicited):

1) Where are there some FTP sites for this? 

2) Does anybody do much programming for it for explicit applications?
   If so, what language? Assembler? Basic? Is there a tiny basic for
   it?

3) Does anybody know how to access the serial port through anything other
   than the BIOS? In particular, how do you toggle the RTS/DTR lines?
   How about OUT1 for the interrupts?

4) What's the easiest way to do file transfers with the serial port?
   (There was no manual with mine). The built in software only does
   the parallel port, right? I have written a small xmodem-type thing
   which I bootstrapped across the serial port. Does somebody have a 
   better way?

5) How long can I expect the batteries to last? Will it warn me of
   low batteries if I use NiCads?

6) What is a good source of cards for it, and at what prices?

7) Can the internal RAM be upgraded? How? By how much?

8) Where is this group archived, and is there a FAQ?

9) How many of you use this? Why? What do you like about it? Dislike?

Don.

-- 
Don Bowman                (519) 744-6154     dbowman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: steve@maths.warwick.ac.uk (Steve Rumsby)
Subject: Re: Psion 3
Organization: Geometry Group, Maths Institute, Warwick University, UK.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:37:42 GMT


In article <JIL.92Sep14174040@mozart.linus.mitre.org>, jil@linus.mitre.org (Jon Leivent) writes:
> In article <Ieg_Yb600WB3F_fmQa@andrew.cmu.edu> Greg Howard Rhodes <gr1c+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>    In general, a short review of the Psion 3 would be great.
>
> Greg,
>
A generally pretty good review follows. I have a couple of corrections
and some more detail.
 
> It is a MS-DOS-compatible machine running an 8086 processor.
>
Not true. It uses a DOS compatible file system, but the OS is not
DOS, and it won't run DOS programs.

> This OS is also process-based, so you can have multiple
> things running simultaneously.
>
And they really do all run simultaneously. The background tasks don't
just get suspended, they carry on running. Real multi-tasking. I had
a Mandelbrot program running in the background for a while on mine. I
had to kill it off eventually because the machine got too slow!!

> There are indications that Psion
> also has a C compiler for it, but I have no info on this (wish I did!).
>
They have a C development system that runs on a PC, and presumably
generated code that you download to the '3 as a pre-compiled OPL
program. I've never investigated this since I don't own a PC, but
it would be a nice way of developing code if you do.

> Word-processor files can be converted into and
> out of RTF format for transfer to and from MS-Word and other WPs.
>
There is also a PostScript driver for the WP. The set of fonts it
knows about is pretty limited (Times, Courier, Helvetica, and Symbol)
but you probably aren't going to be typing serious documents on it anyway.

> RAM cards range up to
> 2Meg, so a completely populated Psion can have 4.256Meg available.
>
The biggest RAM card is currently 1MB, I think. The biggest flash card
is 2MB.

> The flash-cards must be bulk-erased, and so cannot be used to extend
> the OS/application dynamic memory space - they're for files only.
>
RAM cards are also for files only. The OS will use only the internal
256K of RAM for running applications.

> The machine runs on 2 AA batteries, and a lithium hearing-aid battery
> for emergency backup.  After 2 months of everyday use, I just replaced
> the AA cells (it tells you when they're getting low).  It can also
> take a 9v external power source.  Mine cost me $350.
>
The manuals claims 80 hours of continuous use from a set of batteries.
In practice I seem to get more than that, but I go through phases of
using it quite heavily and so generally don't get 2 months from a set.
I've also now switched to Nicads, which don't last anywhere near so
long. 

Steve.
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From: sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: TI-85 games
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:37:37 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Brian J Cerveny (brianc@iastate.edu) wrote:
: 
: Interesting, a friend of mine here wrote an Artillery program on the TI-81.
: Or, so he says.
: 

	It was probably a common thing to do.  It wasn't incredibly hard,
but a fun diversion.  And it was a use for the many functions I found with
interesting graphs--I could use them as terrain.

: Well, source code could be posted for the Minehunt game, but TI-tris will be
: tough.  Right now, the pieces are stored in lists I made in stat mode, but
: I could initialize those lists directly from the source.  Plus hand-drawn
: graphics are an integral part of my games.  The games would still work
: without the fancy graphics, of course, but the "atmosphere" wouldn't be
: the same.  :)

	Yeah, the terrains I have for Artillery are stored pictures, along
with stored equations.  That's kind of hard to translate to text, except by
posting a 127x63 array of 0's and 1's, which is cumbersome and a pain to
reinput.

: Until LINK-85 comes out, posting source would also mean manually retyping 
: the source on the computer.  We'll see, I guess.

	I called TI last week, and they said that they were shipping to to
dealers but would start shipping it themselves until October.  Plus, they
wanted $70 for it.  I wonder if they'd release specs on the cable and the
transfer protocol.
	Unfortunately, the plugs for the link cable are sub-mini 2.5mm
STEREO.  No one carries plugs or sockets of this size that are stereo.  I
checked Radio Shack, various electronics catalogs I get in the mail, etc...
Some have sockets, some have plugs, but they're all mono.  It'd be nice to
know if the transfer even uses the other channel.

	Dave
From: sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Interface protocol for Seiko DF1800 (and others?)
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:12:55 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


	How about the TI-85 protocol?
From: Joshuas@quanta.cts.com (Joshua Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Wanted HP-28s
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 13:12:16 GMT
Organization: Quanta
Reply-To: Joshuas@quanta.cts.com (Joshua Stephens)
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Mac Release: 1.5

Hey, I'm looking for someone who is willing to sell their HP-28s to
me for pretty cheap. I would also consider an HP-28s that had a broken
screen if the circuit board was still functional.

Thanks alot and please respond to both of these addresses to help
me figure out this mailer:
joshuas@crash.cts.com
joshuas@quanta.cts.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops
From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:02:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.185846.13306@uwm.edu>, jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John Stewart Pinnow) writes:
> 
> I looking into purchasing a graphing calculator in a few weeks, I am looking
> for opinions on the graphing calculators that are out there?
> 
> I would also like to know the cheepest (under 200) of the calculators? The ones
> with the most functionality and the ease of use of them?
> 

I strongly recomend the TI-81.  It is around $70, and is much easier to use
than the Casios.  Beyond that, in my expericnce, the TI-81 is more powerful
(has more features) and is faster than all Casio graphers, with the possible
exception of the CASIO 8000 which I have yet to see.
The TI-81 also has more memory than any of the Casios I've seen. (2400 bytes)

The TI-85 has 32k and is even more powerful then the 81 (99 equations stored in
equation buffer, all individually traceable, complex number support, plus lots
o' other stuff, but it costs closer to $120.  Still, it might be worth it, but
the 81 fits all my needs.  (Although 2400 bytes is awful tight for writing
games.  I still managed to write Tic-Tac-Toe, Flag Capture (remember on the
Atari 2600?) and a miniature version of Scorched Earth for my TI-81

But I doubt writing games for the calculator is your highest priority...:)

Of course, the HP48SX still blows both of the TIs away, but we're talking
closer to $250 for that machine.  And it insists on using reverse polish
notation.  (Still, a calculator with 256k ROM OS (the HP, I mean) can do some
pretty amazing things.  "Mathematica in your shirt pocket." Not to mention the
RAM/ROM card drive and infrared Kermit transfer to other HPs)

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|______  |  |_____  |            | |       |________|   |____|
      / /         | |  _  _   _  |  \       ________    ______   _______
     /  \         | | |_||_| / / |   \     |________|  |____  | |_______|
    / /\ \   _____| |   ____/ /  | |\ \     ________       / /
   /_/  \_\ |_______|  |_____/   |_| \/    |________|     /_/
 
        |  Nippon no anime wa ichi-ban desu!  Otaku rule!    |
        |      Hey, man, I _like_ Robotech.  So sue me.      |
        | Sukotto Miraa/Scott Miller (ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu) |