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From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Fetch-aholic cat
Date: 19 Dec 1992 08:57:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
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In a previous article, C14383@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Marie Cannizzaro) says:
>My 5 month old Tonk Sam somehow taught herself fetch be bringing me the
>foam ball one day and since then I am hounded by her to throw the ball
>so she can get it and bring it back. She'll leap two feet in the air and
>catch it in her mouth like a dog! And she wants to play this game for
>hours! Every morning she wakes me at 4am by plopping her balls on my
>face and she won't leave until I toss one and then forget going back to
>sleep! She also brings me "gifts" at night. I wake to find all the balls,
>all my Xmas village paper mache people, my santa hat with pompon, barette
>s, watches--anything she can carry in her mouth, under the covers next to
>me. I have another cat that lives with my mom and he has never done this
>sort of thing. He doesn't play fetch either. Has anyone else had the same
>experience?? Marie
>
Spanky did this a lot before I brought home a baby cat for him
to bug. He will still occasionally climb up the back of my chair
and roll spongy balls down into my lap until I give up and play
with him.

As someone pointed out, if the cat thought it up, it's called
Throw :-)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: clark@riffle.Stanford.EDU (Clark Burdick)
Subject: Re: Is Christmas Tree Water Dangerous?
Summary: YES!!!
Organization: ^
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 22:48:30 GMT

Yes, drinking the water from a Christmas tree stand is dangerous for
cats. Pine oil is poisonous to kitties. Earlier this Christmas season,
somebody posted the suggestion of filling the stand with gravel to
prevent cats from drinking the water.

Clark Burdick
clark@riffle.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: petitc@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Non-Verbal Cues for Kitties
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:29:33 GMT

Could someone please post or send me a copy of all the ways to understand
what a cat is feeling (non-verbally)?

Also, I think kitties pick up on voice tone and such much more than words
(though they do pick up on those somewhat).


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From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: RE: I need help naming kittens
Date: 16 DEC 92 09:45:42 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
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In a previous article, Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb) wrote:
>> In article <_k#@byu.edu> $stephan@sasb (Stephan Fassmann, Software) writes:
>> >In article <1992Dec7.073956.19805@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>> muaddib@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rob Dorfman) writes:
>> >>I am about to get a male/female pair of kittens. The male
>> >>is black and the female is silver grey.  They are very cute.
>> >>I was wondering if anyone could recommend some names for me.
>> >Captain Midnight and the Silver Surver. :-)
>> >Velvet and Silver
>> >Fork and Spoon
>> >Die (dee) and Der. German articles for Feminine and Masculine.
>> >Night and Moon.
>> >Sky and Planet.
>> >Dark and Light
>> >Bad and Neutral/Good
>> Pygmalion and Galatea.
>> Antony and Cleopatra
>> Napoleon and Josephine
>> George and Barbara .....  NOT!  ;)
>>         Your choices are unlimited.
> 
>A nice set of names I saw for a white cat and a black cat were SOYA and
>BECHAMEL... as in 'sauces'... :)
	
	What about "Midnight and Shadow".  I had a pair of hamsters named
Orville and Wilbur but I guess you have a boy and a girl... not a good idea
with hamsters:-)  There's also Bill and Hillary if you're so inclined- at least
its timely--  Hmm there are lots of good ones already posted.  If the gray
cat is really light maybe Ebony and Ivory? Or another language:in French
Black= Noir, Fog=brouillard, white= blanch(e), cloud=nuage, night=nuit,
mist=brume.. oh well nevermind maybe they don't sound so great either-sigh
Bev
From: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What's Your Favorite Kind of Cat?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:22:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article 1gl2fpq@rpi.edu, petitc@vccsouth02.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
>I was wondering---what's your favorite kind of cat?  Siamese, Persian,
>Tomcat, Rex?
>

Shorthaired mutt-cats!  I wouldn't trade my girls for all the pedigrees 
in the world.

-Ann


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rusty@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Hall)
Subject: Re: jellicle?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:55:00 GMT

In article <18DEC199209453664@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes...
>In article <1gqke4INN3po@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French) writes...
>> 
>>excuse me if this is a stupid question, but what the heck
>>is a jellicle cat?
> 
>It's like a `gummy' bear... a cat made of jelly that comes in an assortment 
>of flavors and colors. Geeze, ya thinks *some* things would be obvious. :-)
> 
> 
>-- Stephen
> 
Beware the Jellicle cats are out tonight and are now very upset...

Be on the look out for moon lit eyes....
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Subject: Re: the kitty language
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:37:25 GMT

Murphy used to be very fiesty with me until I got a second kitten for
him to take his aggressions out on.  (At least he can bite back!)  When
he would be in his play mode, just about anything would set him off:
tweaking his tail or rubbing his fur backwards.  He'd give me a look
that clearly said (Three Stooges imitation here:) "Oh!  Wiseguy!" and
then make a flying attack on my person.

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From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When will people learn???
Keywords: kitten, SPCA,
Date: 19 Dec 92 07:16:04 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA


>
>>What are the restrictions in your town?  We don't have any on cats.
>
> Huh?  I never heard of such a restriction either.
>
The city of Seattle has a limit of 3.  When I went to get Oreo a license,
when the guy entered my address, the computer beeped and flashed him a
message telling him I already had one cat registered.  That's when he
told me there was a maximum of 3 per address. 

------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.pets.dogs
From: dauphin@adobe.com (Kimberly Dauphin)
Subject: Re: a very sad day for me....:  Pet Memorials
Keywords: tears, tears
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:48:51 GMT

I'm posting this to rec.pets.dogs in addition to *.cats, because
I think dog owners will also benefit.

In response to a sad posting about Max being put to sleep,
lcornell@stein.u.washington.edu (Linda D. Cornell) writes:

> I can't imagine life without her now.  Take care, and just keep on loving
> Max...and give another little fur-ball a chance  to have a wonderful life
> with a caring owner like you!

When my Muff died last January, I did something special so that I would 
always have a visible memory of her.  I bought a beautiful marble memorial
for the garden.  It's very simple, and says only
	      Muff
	        *  <----------That's a heart
	8/20/79 - 1/8/92

Every time I see the memorial, I'm reminded of the 12 wonderful years
Muff and I shared, moving around the country, enjoying sunny Sunday
mornings in the garden, cuddling together in front of the fireplace,
and keeping each other company when my social life was less than ideal.
I still cry sometimes (like right now), but they're tears that I know
Muff was loved and had a good life.

The memorial is made of rose (sort of a dark pink) marble, with white 
lettering.  The company that made it spoke with me in person on the 
phone, answering all of my questions.  They sent me a detailed 
brochure, along with some color pictures of sample memorials.  The 
memorials are available in many different sizes and colors, including 
black granite, rose marble, white marble, and others.  They shipped 
via UPS.  They put a personal touch on a very trying ordeal, and 
I thank them.  I recommend:
	Smoky Point Monuments
	7237 Lakeside Road
	Ontario, NY 14519
	315-524-9593

Give them a call.  Their prices are incredibly reasonable (I think my
memorial cost ~$35), and if my experience is any indication, a pet 
memorial may help you in the future with your memories of Max.

Please also take Linda's advice and bring another wonderful cat home from
the Humane Society, but do it when you're ready.  Make sure you have
taken time to grieve for Max, and be sure that your heart is ready
to love another cat; sometimes the memory of a lost pet takes a while
to go down in intensity enough for another pet to be considered.
Max will always have a special space in your heart; for a while that
space may be too big for another pet to enter.

Our thoughts are with you at this sad time,
Kimberly and Hershey (the cat who helped with my sorrow of losing Muff)
-- 
__________________________________________________________
Kimberly Dauphin	  	Adobe Systems Incorporated
dauphin@mv.us.adobe.com	  	Mountain View, CA
*********All these opinions are mine, not Adobe's.********
From: petitc@nuge111.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: where are all the cat people
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:22:39 GMT

donna@ve6bc.ampr.ab.ca (Donna MacKintosh) writes:

>My five year old cats' name is Pedro and he is a very large grey and
>white male alley cat from a litter of one.  He is a 25 pounder who
>likes Cheez Whiz, chocolate ice cream and canteloupe.  He loves to
>sleep with us on the waterbed but he snores, and hogs the covers.

  Oh God!  Isn't chocolate FATAL to cats?!?  Or maybe this kitty has a
resistance to that poison?


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yours now and avoid the rush!  They make great Christmas gifts!
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: csx040@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Alan Chantler (CS))
Subject: Re: Non-Verbal Cues for Kitties
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:14:40 GMT

In article <rcm2s2n@rpi.edu> petitc@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
>Could someone please post or send me a copy of all the ways to understand
>what a cat is feeling (non-verbally)?

I have (at home right now) a book called 'How to Talk to Your Cat'. I'll
bring it tomorrow and post the details.

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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: whiskers
Date: 16 Dec 1992 08:09:48 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: rec
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

David Thomas (david@tms390.micro.ti.com) wrote:

: I've seen mother cats bite off their kittens' whiskers;
: the result is exactly as you've described.  Is Princess
: Muffin's mother, or does she act like it sometimes?
: Could be that Princess has bitten them off.

: I've heard a theory that mother cats do it to keep the kittens 
: from wandering (or something like that).  Personally, I 
: don't think that theory holds up very well; it sounds more
: like a folktale.  I know for a fact, however, that our 
: 13-month-old (!) Bombay female Gina has broken-off whiskers
: on one side right now and I know that her mama is responsible 
: for it.  I'm annoyed about it because we're trying to campaign 
: Gina on the TICA circuit, and she's supposed to look perfect.
: -- 
: David Thomas  Texas Instruments  (david@wotangate.sc.ti.com)  (713)-274-2347

I've known other moms to do it to their kittens.  Tabitha did it to Spike.  
I don't know why.  One person told me that it's usually the most active
kitten.  At least it was only Gina's whiskers.  A friend of mine breeds
Birmans.  One week before ths Sacred Cat of Burma show, one of her queens
decided that she'd had it with *all* of the kittens in the house. 
The end result was that the kitten expected to do very well went to the
show missing a quarter sized patch of fur on his back.  Needless to say,
he didn't do very well in the ring.  Isn't showing fun? :-)

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: screen savers and stuff
From: bamon@ocvaxc.cc.oberlin.edu
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:30:33 EDT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Oberlin College

In article <SBILES.92Dec10215031@dante.nmsu.edu>, sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes:
> Okay..I have lots to respond to!
> 
> First - 
> I work at a mac lab and one of the big screens had the greatest screen
> saver that had three kitties on it running around and doing various
> cute things. 

> Susan
> 

Susan,

   That sounds like Boris, the "After Dark" kitten. I have three kittens
playing in the meadow, chasing a butterfly, etc. They stop and purr, and
the go the the edge of the screen and stand up and scratch against the 
edge. It's adorable.  Look for "After Dark" in your friendly neighborhood
software catalog.

Jennifer
bamon@ocvaxc.cc.oberlin.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hirschon@ast.saic.com (Donna Hirschon (x5177))
Subject: Re: Renaming my new cat
Followup-To: bacchus@mcl.ucsb.edu
Reply-To: hirschon@ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:46:04 GMT

I adopted a 1-1/2 year-old cat named CeCe two years ago.  The name didn't fit
her at all - she's a very elegant long-haired Siamese (?) with a little calico
thrown in, as evidenced by a tan spot on her upper nose and a couple more on 
her paws.  We renamed her "Tasha" and it fits.  She seems to know her new name.
Good luck with your "Bocci"!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: betty@funky.austin.ibm.com (Betty Riggle)
Subject: Re: nicknames
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:11:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM AWD Austin, TX

I thought I would add a few of my nicknames
Delilah (DLH gray tabby) is Di, sweatheart, and fuzzface or fuzzbutt  These
last two nicknames came during a time of flea infestations and alergies 
which cause Di to lose all of the fur off her back legs and part of the tail.
Since she is a long hair, you can imagine how sad/silly she looked.
Di got her name when I found out she was the instigator of things but always
pretended to be so innocent.

Spot (DSH gray with orange speckling) is Spotnick, Silly, Messcat, and 
recently BB (for Big Bertha) since she has gained so much weight.  Spot got 
her name because she always has her tongue out, one paw up, and tends to 
forget her tail is part of her so that it sticks straight out.  When standing 
on 3 legs -- she looks like a hunting dog at point.  

Both cats are i/o cats with claws.  I've moved recently and have been
trying to convince the cats that they should be indoor cats.  It isn't
easy.  Di isn't too unhappy since at 12 she isn't as interested in going out.
Spot (at 8) thinks I'm cruel.  Both think I'm mean because both are on
a diet in an attempt to reduce Spot.

Betty Riggle
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: My favorite type of cat
Keywords: easy question
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:27:47 GMT


My favorite type of cat: anything feline.  I haven't had many different
types, mostly "mutts".  My new cat -we've been together for a year now-
is Siamese.  In the past, I never had a good reaction to Siamese.  A
neighbor had one for years that terrified us kids (obviously many years
ago!).  My sister babysat for some people one time whose Siamese raked
her feet.  She never babysat for them again.  So, now I have a Siamese
and Mia is great.

The point I was endeavoring to make is:  I love cats.  My favorite cat
is just that -a cat.  I'm one of those kinds of people that try to make
babies smile in the store; I go to someones house, and have to pet the
animals.  Hopeless, but true.

margaret
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb)
Subject: Re: Sisal and scratching posts
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:56:09 GMT

> Lianne Barre writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <18053@bcars664.bnr.ca>
> Posted: 14 Dec 92 13:19:54 GMT
>
> Org.  : Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
>
>
> I've heard many times that sisal rope is good for scratching posts.
> I have one of those useless carpet-covered posts that I'd like to wrap
> with something more appealing. I've used denim (the cats like to scratch
> our jeans) and it's worked OK, but it eventually comes off. I'd like to
> try sisal rope.
>
> Now...just what is sisal? And where can I get some? Is it sold in the
> usual hardware stores or do I need to go somewhere special to find it.
>
> My cats would thank you..
>
> - Lianne -

sisal is just a heavy rope... some call it jute as well.  If you can't get it
at a hardware store, then a hobby store would have it... it's used a lot for
macrameing.
*j*
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From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: Any interesting cat tricks out there? 8-)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:52:41 GMT

ederpc@rtsg.mot.com (Pamela C. Eder) writes:

>My four furry wonders are pretty "normal" for felines. (yah, i know,
>who ever heard of a "normal" feline?!)  Anywho, one of my eldest,
>Ruggles, a generic Main Coon mix, likes climbing door frames.  He'll
>sit perched at the bottom of the door frame, looking like he's ready to
>pounce.  He then springs up, with his paws around the frame, about 5 feet.
>He hangs there for a few seconds and then slides down.  A real sight for
>people who haven't experienced any kitty antics before.  He's done this
>since he was a little tyke.  He's 12 now and as energetic and goofy as a
>kitten.  


>Pamela, Rugggles, Tyson, Scooter & Hobbes.

That's interesting. My Maine Coon type cat is also a 1981 model,
also still as active and mischievous as a kitten.

Does yours have a "meep" instead of a meow? Purr any time anyone
touches him?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Adding a cat to our menagerie
From: mjm@thumper.bellcore.com (Marian Macchi)
Date: 7 Dec 92 20:46:11 GMT
Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering

Keywords:cats dogs

Because of requests from our children, my husband and I are
considering adding a cat to our "menagerie".  We already
have two 12-year old dogs (a male and a female Welsh terrier),
a parakeet, a hamster, and numerous fish.  We have plenty of
house space, plenty of yard space, and we have someone in the
house most of the day.  The dogs can go outside if someone
lets them out, and I'd hope that eventually the cat would go
out, too.

Here are our goals and concerns:

(1) A cat that can co-exist with the dogs. This is our
biggest concern, because our terriers have never been very
friendly to other animals.  Especially when the two of them
"gang up" against a third animal.  So we are concerned
about the dogs injuring the cat.  We also, of course,
are concerned about the cat injuring the dogs!

(2) A cat that will not spray in the house.
This is our second biggest concern. I've heard that a neutered
male will not spray, but other people have told me that that's not true.

(3) A cat that will not destroy our furniture.
This is tied for second.  Do we need a scratching post?

(4) A cat that will not kill the hamster, bird or fish.
Is it possible to have all of these animals coexist happily?

(5) A cat that is affectionate with people.

Our vet has recommended that we get an adult, neutered
male cat.  Another local vet has available for adoption
a 20-month old male cat who was abandoned and has been
living at the vet's for almost a year. This cat still has claws,
was neutered a week or so ago, seems extremely friendly
and affectionate.

We have a reasonable plan, I think, for introducing the
cat into the household, and for introducing the cat to the world
outdoors once all the animals are adjusted to each other

But I'd love some opinions -

Thanks.

        Marian Macchi
From: Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: declawing?
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:44:18 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

PLEASE--- please don't have your pet declawed.  Just a quick sermon, and then
suggestions to get him to stop doing it.

Declawing is not the removal of the claw, but the actual amputation of the
first joint of the finger, to ensure the whole nail bed is removed.  It's not
fun for them, just as it would be no fun for you.

There are ways to get your meow to stop scratching the furniture...

1) on a day you'll be home most of the day, buy some fine netting to cover
your furniture.  Put it all over your furniture, and stack beer or soda cans
precariously on top of the netting and the furniture.  When your cat goes to
scratch the couch, he'll pull the netting, and the cans will come crashing
down!!  Yoicks!  Replace the cans, and be ready for the next crash.
Eventually, he'll associate the crash with the couch.

2) buy a water pistol, and surreptitiously squirt him whenever he goes to
scratch the furniture.  Eventually he will associate the squirt with the
scratching.

Make sure you have a place where he CAN scratch available, and encourage the
crap out of him when he scratches there.  Rub catnip all over it, and he will
hopefully be okay.  The less he associates the "punishment" for scratching
with you personally, the faster he'll stop... you know how spiteful they can
be when they know you don't like their behaviour.

hope that helps!! :)
*j*
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