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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIM: Result-W's 100m Butterfly Heat 4
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:26:46 GMT

   Heat 4
 1.  Martina Moravcova (Czechoslovakia)             1:02.11
 2.  Marianne Kriel (South Africa)                  1:02.49
 3.  Diana Ureche (Romania)                         1:02.72
 4.  Timea Toth (Israel)                            1:03.18
 5.  Marja Kristiina Paivinen (Finland)             1:03.94
 6.  Iuliana Pantilimon (Romania)                   1:04.07
 7.  Shelley Katherine Cramer (Virgin Is)           1:05.84

Rod Swift
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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: TOTAL MEDAL COUNT we 30.7.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:12:54 GMT

In article <(~{5K6,F=~})DENG.92Jul30161339@math12.bnlux1.bnl.gov>, deng@bnlux1.bnl.gov (~{5K6,F=~}) writes:
|> >>>>> In article <1992Jul30.190336.18916@athena.mit.edu>
|> >>>>> "Jason" == Jason W Solinsky <solman@athena.mit.edu> writes:
|> 
|>   Jason> That would be an even more meaningless statistic. Total medals at
|>   Jason> least tells you how many total medals there were. With average
|>   Jason> medals you get no information because the number of medals awarded
|>   Jason> at each Olympics has increased so much.  The longer a country has
|>   Jason> been participating, the lower its score.
|> 
|> Your point is taken, but you can put in a weight or sth. Basically I'd like
|> to get a general sense of how good performance from each country at each
|> Olympics. 

Good idea. Just multiply each medal by the number of medal events this year
divided by the number of medal events in the year it was won and THEN divide
by the number of Olympics that country competed in. Of course you still have
the problem that all Olympics before WW2 were STRONGLY weighted in favor of
the host country.

Jason W. Solinsky
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From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Through 23.
Originator: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington IN.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:24:24 GMT


Summer Olympics: Tuesday's Medal Winners           

               SHOOTING
         
	 MEN'S AIR PISTOL

    Gold -- Wang Yifu, China
    Silver -- Sergei Pyjianov, Unified Team
    Bronze -- Sorin Babei, Romania

            OPEN SKEET

    Gold -- Zhang Shan, China
    Silver -- Juan Jorge Yarur, Peru
    Bronze -- Bruno Rossetti, Italy

Summer Olympics: Overall Medals Standings          

           (THROUGH 23 EVENTS)
COUNTRY       GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
China            5      6      1    12
United States    3      2      5    10
Unified Team     6      2      0     8
Germany          1      1      3     5
France           0      2      3     5
Hungary          2      1      1     4
Australia        1      1      1     3
Japan            1      1      1     3
Sweden           0      2      1     3
South Korea      2      0      0     2
Bulgaria         1      1      0     2
Italy            0      1      2     3
Spain            1      0      0     1
Peru             0      1      0     1
Poland           0      1      0     1
Cuba             0      1      0     1
Independent Team (Yugoslavia)
                 0      0      1     1
Finland          0      0      1     1
Netherlands      0      0      1     1
Romania          0      0      2     2
Mongalia         0      0      1     1
Surinam          0      0      1     1


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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: VOLLEYBALL QUESTION
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:24:44 GMT

In article IKH@math.uwaterloo.ca, hxiao@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Michael Hemin Xiao) writes:
>In article <Bs6tHp.J7C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>>wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop) writes:
>>
>>>Italy           2  4   6-1
>>>Japan           2  3   5-4
>>>United States   2  3   4-5
>>>France          2  3   4-5
>>>Spain           2  3   3-5
>>>Canada          2  2   4-6
>>
>>What do these above numbers mean?  Please explain them.
>>Are they total matches, points, games for-against?
>>If so, how are points determined?
>
>I guess it is  matches points set for and set against
>point scheme is  win 2    loss 1
>
>I dont see the meaningfulness for total number of set for and against
>it is meaningful for one match, not several matches together.


Sets for -against are used to tie breaking purposes within each pool.
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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: WEIGHTLIFTING: preview
Summary: weightlifting preview for olympics
Keywords: weightlifting - olympics
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 08:11:34 GMT
Expires: 10 Aug 92


There are 10 weight classes in the olympic weightlifting:

     52   kg    flyweight
     56   kg    bantamweight
     60   kg    featherweight
     67.5 kg    lightweight
     75   kg    middleweight
     82.5 kg    light heavyweight
     90   kg    middle heavyweight
    110   kg    heavyweight
    unlimited   super heavyweight

During the competition, and at each type of lift (see below for the
types) the weight of the bar starts at a (relatively) "light" weight
and increases with the increments of 5kg early in the competition, and
2.5kg late in the competition. After each increase, a contestant has
to decide whether to attempt to lift the weight or wait for a higher
weight. Each contestant is allowed only three attempts at each type of
lift. If a contestant fails to lift a certain weight, in his next
attempt he may choose to try to lift the same weight again, or opt for
a higher weight. If he fails to lift successfully in all of his three
attempts at a type of lift, he will receive zero kilograms in that
type of lift.

There are two types of lift, "snatch" and "clean & jerk". The "snatch"
is performed by lifting the bar from the floor to overhead in one
movement and holding it there for two seconds. The "clean and jerk",
is a two part lift. First the weight is brought up to the shoulders
and then, using combined strength of arms and legs, it is raised
overhead. The ranking is done by totalling the heaviest snatch lift
and the heaviest clean and jerk lift of each contestant. When a tie
occurs, the man with the lower body weight is declared the winner.

If a lifter completes a successful lift within 10kg of the world
record, he is allowed a fourth attempt, which does not count as part
of the competition but can count as a world record.

    --mack

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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Cricket, baseball, shot-put etc.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:46:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.220631.19748@b30.ingr.com>, kumar@b30.ingr.com (Mahesh S. Kumar) writes:
|> recently a nettor had compared shot-put and baseball to justify
|> the inclusion of baseball in the olympics.  Shot-put is an
|> 'athletic event' while baseball is a sport.  Comparing the two
|> to justify a viewpoint is IMHO not correct.  I would be more 
|> convinced (regarding inclusion of baseball) if you can give 
|> some examples of other 'sports' (where the following is limited
|> but still justifies inclusion).


A) Track and Field people very definitely think that they are competing in
sports. In fact, I know several people who would have felt insulted if they
read that. What they are not is TEAM sports.

B) The original example was that it is possible to travel all over India and
see only one example of baseball. Well it is possible to travel all across
America and not see one example of volleyball. That does not mean that it does
not have a huge following here.

Jason W. Solinsky
From: jwp@panix.com (JongWoo Park)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Moving images
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:31:52 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <Bs0nKD.Jq8@cs.psu.edu> flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee) writes:

>Watching footage of the floor exercises on NBC, I noticed the images
>are peculiarly sharp.  In the tumbling runs, the arms and legs of the
>gymnasts are a series of sharp images, not moving blurs, both in real
>time and in slow motion.  It's a little disorienting.

>Is this an effect of video technology, or an effect of lighting?
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This one is the answer.  But it is not due to PAL( European TV standard)->
NTSC( North American TV std. ) conversion.  They are taping it with
HD-MAC ( a experimental HD TV ) and they are down converting it to NTSC.
If you want to know more go to rec.video and read some backlogs.
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From: rgd3729@tamsun.tamu.edu (Greg Dilworth)
Subject: Re: TripleCast Update
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:49:43 GMT

In article <fortony.711784538@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
>
>>professional. Limiting sports to purported "amateurs" simply does not
>>work any more.
>
>Now, the Olympic spirit *used* to be that we wouldn't stoop to their
>level.  We'd go out there in the spirit of international challenge and
>sportsmanship, no matter what odds were stacked against us.  If we won,
>it was a big story, like that hockey game.  If we lost, then we gave it
>our best.  America has always loved its losers no less.

No offense, but I don't really think that this is true.  America very
much DID live its losers less.  The people who make it to the Wheaties
boxes are the people who got the gold medals.  People who don't do as
well as they were supposed to often get kicked around in the media.  I
have read many a report about the 1988 Olympic Basketball team under
John Thompson which did not win the gold medal.  He took flak about
this for years (and is in fact still doing so in some publications).

>
>I think we should have continued to send our young and hopeful even
>against their stars.  It would make the games more interesting and less
>of a purely technical display -- everyone knows the Finns (or whoever
>the heck invented the sport) are going to crush us brutally in curling
>when they send out their curling gurus.  The US Basketball team is
>going to win going away by sixty in the gold medal round.  Jamaica's
>not going to win any kind of bobsledding anything.  If at least we made
>our contribution interesting, and human, more people might be interested
>in the results.  They might even pay to see it.

I also doubt that people in general would be willing to pay to see
non-professionals.  Pros pack in stadiums better than do Colleges.
Colleges do better than High Schools.  High Schools do better than
grade schools.  One of the reasons for this is that the sport which is
played is performed at a higher and higher level of technical ability.

I believe the Olympics and the IOC have done the right thing in
allowing professionals in.  Why not pit the best from each country
against each other and see who is the best.  Let the amateurs get good
enough to become professionals and then they can take their time in
the sun.

Just a differing opinion.

>
>>Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com
>
>>"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
>> highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
>-- 
>a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
>Felix Sebastian Ortony	fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu

Greg Dilworth
GregD@tamu.edu

Xref: sparky rec.sport.olympics:1234 soc.culture.british:10794
From: dsr@bnr.co.uk (D.S.Riches)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Why only ONE british olympic team
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:45:51 GMT
Reply-To: dsr@bnr.co.uk (D.S.Riches)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article sp@mirabeau.osf.fr (Simon Patience) writes:
>In article <92209.085455BERNARD@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>,
>And does anyone know why on earth a parade in Spain (oops, sorry
>Catalonia) should use French? 
>
>  Simon Patience

I do, I do.  

Normally there are 3 official languages, the host country's language,
French and English. In Spain, the Catalans and the Spanish couldn't agree
on which language would be the official language to use throughout the games 
and so they comprised on French.  Because of the demarcation between
the Catalans and the rest of Spain that's why there were 4 languages
on the Team Markers in the opening ceremony.
   Dave Riches
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From: fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West)
Subject: Team Handball (Sweden?)
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:35:42 GMT


I've read three different sources now about the men's team handball
competition, all three citing the world champion team from Sweden as one of
the favorites.  However, according to the schedule posted on clari.sports.
olympic, Sweden is not even *in* the competition.  Is this true?  I see
that Switzerland made the draw; is this a typo?  If anyone knows the real
story, please let me know, by posting or by e-mail.

BTW, just to confirm: Iceland will replace the ex-Yugoslavian men's team
and Norway will replace the women's team in the competition, right?

Thanks for the info.

ecw
fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SWIMFINAL: Result-W's 200m Individual Medley
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:37:13 GMT
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia

SWIMMING - Women's 200m Individual Medley FINAL
===============================================
at Picornell Pool, Montjuic
 
World Record		2:11.73
Olympic Record		2:12.59
 
Gold	LI, Lin				CHN	2:11.65		New WR, New OR
Silver	SANDERS, Summer			USA	2:11.91
Bronze	HUNGER, Daniela			GER	2:13.92
------
4	DENDEBEROVA, Elena		EUN	2:15.47
5	OVERTON, Elly			AUS	2:15.76
6	LIMPERT, M			CAN	2:17.09
7	SWEETNAM, Nancy			CAN	2:17.13
8	SYNOWSKA, Ewa			POL	2:18.85

** Results complete **

Rod Swift
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIMFINAL: Result-W's 4x100m Freestyle Relay
Summary: times now complete in this update
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:44:18 GMT

SWIMMING - Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay
=========================================
at Picornell Pool, Montjuic 

World Record		3:40.57
Olympic Record		3:40.63

 
Gold	UNITED STATES		USA	3:39.46		New OR
Silver	CHINA			CHN	3:40.12
Bronze	GERMANY			GER	3:41.60
------
4	UNIFIED TEAM		EUN	3:43.68
5	THE NETHERLANDS		NED	3:43.74
6	DENMARK			DEN	3:47.81
7	SWEDEN			SWE	3:48.47
8	CANADA			CAN	3:49.37


** Results complete **
 
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From: strickle@charon.usc.edu (David Strickler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Test
Followup-To: Null
Date: 21 Jul 1992 11:52:07 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: charon.usc.edu
Keywords: Test

This is an extraordinary test.
From: mccallum@fluorine.cchem.berkeley.edu (Mike Mccallum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Moving images
Date: 30 Jul 1992 20:12:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1992Jul30.191806.27512@mercury.unt.edu> danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Danny Faught) writes:
>I noticed the strange video effects during the gymnastics, too, and it
>looks similar to an effect seen on video phones.  Video phones, as I
>understand it, use a data compression technique that transmits only the
>changes in the image, rather than transmitting the whole picture for
>every frame. 
>

Isn't this the same thing as the 'super slo-mo' cameras that they 
started using for baseball games a few years back -- to show the
rotation of the ball and have very clear slo-motion?  They work 
more like a film camera than being a real-time video camera.

I don't know exactly how they work, however.
>-- 
>Danny Faught    danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu
>Save this sig - I'll be famous someday

--Mike

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From: tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon)
Subject: Re: TripleCast Update
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:20:39 GMT

In article <BrsxA0.IDH@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gletty@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Gletty) writes:

>Actually the USA was one of a very small number of countries (2 or 3) to
>vote AGAINST allowing the NBA players into the olympics. The rest of the
>world WANTS the NBA in the olympics. Originally our college players did

That doesn't make sense. No other countries "vote" on how each of the USA
National Governing Bodies (NGBs) run their sport. Each NGB for each sport
in the USA decides for themselves the status of the the athletes particpating,
with the USOC providing different levels of guidelines along the way.

For example, US Water Polo (ngb) decides the rules for eligibility of
it's Olympic competitors, US Swimming (another NGB) has another set of
rules, as does Ice Skating (witness the new rule passed by this NGB allowing
current AND past-professionals to compete). The US Basketball NGB decided
to allow NBA players to participate. Other countries have no say
in our olympic eligibility rules, as we have none in theirs. There are
no such "votes". The same holds for HOW our indidual athletes are selected
to compete for the US in the Olympics. Each NGB has their own set of rules,
decided on by that NGB.

I'd be interested in knowing where you got this information about this
international  "vote". Did you read it in a paper or magazine?

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From: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se (John Dryselius TG/HB)
Subject: Handball Wed results
Reply-To: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:07:08 GMT

Group A:
South Korea - Sweden	18-28 (6-15)
Brazil - Hungary	21-27
Czech - Iceland		16-16


Sweden		2	2 0 0	48-32	4
Iceland		2	1 1 0	35-34	3
-----------------------------------------
Hungary		2	1 0 1	45-43	2
South Korea	2	1 0 1	40-46	2
Czech		2	0 1 1	30-36	1
Brazil		2	0 0 2	39-46	0


Group B:
France - EUN		22-23 (12-14)
Germany - Romania	20-20
Egypt - Spain		18-23

EUN		2	2 0 0	48-37	4
Romania		2	1 1 0	42-41	3
-----------------------------------------
Spain		2	1 0 1	39-36	2
France		2	1 0 1	40-39	2
Germany		2	0 1 1	35-45	1
Egypt		2	0 0 2	39-45	0


Comments:
Group A
Sweden seems to have a relatively comfortable ride through this group. The remaining threats against them are Iceland and Hungary. I have a feeling that Hungary will get back from their surprising loss in the first round to take the second place in the group. I doubt that South Korea - looking very weak against Sweden - can go through without anymore losses. Dark horses are Iceland and Czechoslovakia - they can surprise. 

Group B
Definitely the more interesting group. France showed that EUN are possible to defeat, EUN did their last goal in the very end of the match. Germany must have done a strong match against Romania. If Spain recovers from their poor start there will be no less than five teams competing for the two first positions. Since EUN already defeated Germany and France - the latter surprisingly impressive - they will have the easiest remaining program. But both Spain and Romania have the ability to defeat them.....
In this group everyone - except Egypt maybe - can beat everyone.

John

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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Subject: Re: Moving images
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:28:23 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT

In article <Bs0nKD.Jq8@cs.psu.edu> flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee) writes:
>Watching footage of the floor exercises on NBC, I noticed the images
>are peculiarly sharp.  In the tumbling runs, the arms and legs of the
>gymnasts are a series of sharp images, not moving blurs, both in real
>time and in slow motion.  It's a little disorienting.
>
>Is this an effect of video technology, or an effect of lighting?
>--

This may be due to some video technology, but I would say that the
sharp images have more to do with the simplicity of the tumbling.  The
gymnasts begin the competition with compulsory exercises, which are a
good deal simpler/easier than the optionals to be competed from
Tuesday and onward.

Here is a sample difference: The compulsory mount on floor is a full
twist in the layout position.  In the optionals, you will see most
girls doing "full-in's", which is one twist and two somies in the air.

Rachele