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From: goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Subject: Re: What do you do when your kid things Metallica is cool?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:15:00 GMT

In article <199211171521.AA10495@tuna.wang.com>, JUTTA.LAGE@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Jutta Lage") writes...
>My daughter is a heavy metal fanatic. Actually Metallica is her favourite group
>and I let her go to a concert last September. She loved it. She actually has
>loved this kind of head banging music for about a year. She tells me what she
>thinks about certain songs and even interprets them. It also inspired her to
>take up electric bass which she has become really good at and the music school
>just recently asked her if she wanted to audition for a heavy metal group (all
>girls of the same age...13 and 14). I don't mind it that much...only sometimes
>the loud music is annoying and I have to tell her to turn it down...

[stuff deleted]

OK, now I want to get on my soapbox. First of all, I am not against
any kind of music. That said, the problem I have is with very loud music.
Very loud music does lead to hearing loss. This is a personal concern
of mine, since I am deaf in one ear (not from loud music, though). You
cannot imagine what a precious gift your hearing is until you lose it.
If I am in a noisy restaurant, I frequently cannot hear what my
tablemates are saying, even though my remaining ear is normal. My
neighbor's son has a stereo in his car that is quite expensive -
and with his car windows rolled up, and me in my house with the windows
closed, I can still hear him coming down the street. Can you imagine
what it must be like *inside* the car? I thought I read somewhere that
attending concerts is like standing next to a jet taking off. My
daughter's elementary school has a sock hop each year - with a DJ.
I stopped taking my children, because the music is so loud. There is
no need to blast until it hurts. Good music is good at soft volumes
too. OK, I will get off my soapbox now. 
                                 Patti Twigg
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: rmorey@utrc.utc.com (Randall Morey)
Subject: Re: Nuts and Raffis ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:57:00 GMT

In article <667@quirm.terminus.ericsson.se>, steve@terminus.ericsson.se writes...
> 
> 
>What the heck is a Raffi?, and why are there 'Raffi-free zones' springing
>up all over the US?
> 
>Is this purely an American phenomena, or should European parents panic now?
> 
>Steve Reynolds
> 

Raffi Kavoukian (sp?) is a very popular Canadian singer of children's music.
Actually, he's is of Egyptian descent. He has several albums and at least 2
videos. I like his music, and so do my kids, but if the kids listen to him
_constantly_, I guess he can get worn out like anything else. I bought two of
his songbooks (about 6 albums worth of songs) and the kids love it when I pull
out the guitar and have a sing-along :-(). 

Randy
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From: smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Sandra Mergen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Diarrhea and vomiting
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:45:06 GMT


My 2 year old has had a viral with vomiting (twice, during the night)
for the past week.  There is a viral going around in our area for a
month or so now.  My husband and I have had it for 2 weeks each.  We
are SICK of it.

The doctor says no milk products for Melissa, just Gatorade, and
the BRAT diet.  Well, for those who have a 2 year old, you can
imagine how difficult it is to restrict milk, and whatever else
they're used to eating.  My daughter doesn't eat much as it is.

Is anyone else going through this that can tell me how they handled
the fussy 2 year old, the throwing up in the middle of the night,
the leaking diapers.  I am SOOOO tired.

Sandy
smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com
From: steph@cardinal.ics.uci.edu (Stephanie Leif Aha)
Subject: Re: $5.00 off Oriental Trading Company Certf.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:28:24 GMT
Distribution: usa

In <2B0FCA8A.26278@ics.uci.edu> steph@cardinal.ics.uci.edu (Stephanie Leif Aha) writes:

Lets try thhis again:
Send me your name and address and I'll mail it to you.

Stephanie
ps: If you see this message after Monday Nov 23, 1992, it's probably
already gone.
From: cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Cute things they say, 2.9 year old
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:29:36 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: cew@pelham

On Friday my 2.9 son and I were discussing Christmas.
I asked him what he was going to give me and he replied
"Nothing."  I asked him why he wasn't giving me
anything and he replied "You no need anything."
He is right, I really don't need anything :-).
Later in the evening he did say he wasy gong
to buy me a little Looney Tunes car like his.

Cathryn W. Chiesa
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:39:07 EST
From: Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Our carseat battle solution (14 mos)

A month or so ago I posted a note about our problems getting Doug (now 14
mos) into his carseat.  I received many helpful responses.  It seems that
over the past few weeks things have greatly improved.  The thing that worked
best for us while we were in the midst of the battle was to read a book in
the car.  We would put Doug into the seat, he would stand up and turn around
before we could buckle him in, we would pull out a book and sit down and
start reading, after a few pages he would turn around and look at the
pictures, then sit down, and we could finally strap him in without too much
fuss.  We would finish the book and then head off.  This really only took
about 1-2 minutes and was WORTH it.  Now, he seems to have given up the
fight completely.  We also try to praise him when we don't have to struggle
to go somewhere (we are really committed to positive reinforcement).

This problem seems to be pretty common, at least among misc.kidders!  For
us, it only lasted about a month--a LONG month :-).  Maybe the book
suggestion will work for some one else.  We leave tomorrow for a 10 hour
drive to Indiana, I hope we don't cause a setback!!


Happy Thanksgiving,

Chris Himes
From: lcheap@cac.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap )
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Birth announcement
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:45:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov17.004557.11257
Organization: UW Computing

In article <1992Nov16.220341.5685@colorado.edu> mwalker@taimyr.Colorado.EDU (Marilyn Walker) writes:
>Marilyn and Skip Walker are THRILLED to announce the birth of:
>
>Daniel Denali Walker
>10 November 1992
>7 lbs, 2.5 ozs
>9 and 9 apgars 
>
>He was named after a close friend who also happened to be the OB who
>delivered him.  Denali is an Athabascan word meaning "The Great One" and is
>also the name of the highest peak in North America (formerly known as Mt.
>Mckinley).  

Denali is also Daniel with the letters rearranged!  I think that's 
neat!  Did you plan it that way?

-Laurel

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From: mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine)
Subject: Re: Things My Parents Did Right
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:00:10 GMT

In article <BxzCrw.LBv@inews.Intel.COM> vnoronha@dagwood.intel.com (Valerie Noronha) writes:

(concerning when or whether to argue in front of your kids)

>I think it depends on how well the parents handle disagreements more than
>an issue of whether or not to have them. ...
>
>If a couple does decide to argue in front of a child, I think it is important
>for both parties to set up groundrules (i.e. no swearing, loud voices,
>insults) beforehand and stick to them. ...

I agree wholeheartedly with this.  I grew up in a home where conflict
was avoided at all costs.  I never really got a concept of how to resolve
conflict until well into my marriage -- fortunately not quite too late --
but things have been tooling along *much* better since we figured this out.

I have two kids, almost 2 and almost 5, and I have no idea what they have
learned by observing Mark and I when we conflict.  Fortunately both
Mark and I are fairly even-tempered, even under some extremee circumstances.
And if things start to get too bad one of us will take a walk while the
other watches the kids, and we try again later.  And the kids have seen
us resolve the conflicts, too, which I think is very good for them.

The only two types of conflict we really don't discuss in front of our
kids concern either sex or disciplining the kids.  One of them is kind
of personal, the other I think detrimental to presenting a united front
with respect to parenting.

-- Misty
From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: You know you're pregnant when...
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:27:18 GMT
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.

In article <1992Nov12.145124.1572@bass.lkw.com> brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid) writes:
>
>...you have to close your eyes during restaurant commercials on TV.

Ellen does that too (cheeseburger closeups are the worst, she says).

She also wanted to add, YKYPW:

You find yourself in the kitchen at 3:00 AM with a chicken leg in
your hand, and you don't know how you got there.

You find yourself parked by the side of the freeway having dry heaves
because you got caught in a traffic jam without food (she now keeps
emergency food in the car at all times).

You are moved to the point of tears by TV shows which you KNOW are
terrible and would not normally watch (she mentioned "Empty Nest").

You shut one of your breasts in a door (she's gotten very large and
rather spacey - what is it about pregnancy that turns women into
Jessica Hahn?).

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
reid@tti.com  (that's MISTER reid@tti.com to you!)
Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
From: stanzi@media.mit.edu (Constance "Stanzi" Royden)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Cute things they say (2.5 YO)
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:13:37 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

Another example of "Kids unclear on the concept..."

The other day my husband, who had a cold, explained to Caitie
(2.5 YO) that he had a frog in his throat:
"Sometimes, when you have a cold, your voice sounds like a frog.
Ribid, Ribid.  Then we say you have a frog in your throat."

That evening, while playing with a toy cat, Caitie demonstrated
that she had absorbed this lesson and generalized it:
"Meow, Meow.  I have a Kitty Cat in my throat!"
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov (Susan B. Sinnott)
Subject: Re: Update on my preterm labor: bed for the duration
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:21:35 GMT

What a wonderful story!  It brought tears to my eyes.  I'm so glad it
all worked out OK for you and your son.

Susan Sinnott
sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov
From: donna@wyse.wyse.com (Donna Diloreto x2231 dept302)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: 7 mo old pulling hair
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:27:10 GMT
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

OK, I've just about had it!  I'm about ready to make an appointment to get
my hair cut off (hair that I've been growing for 3 years because my hubby
has this THING about long hair).  At 7 months, Paul still loves to YANK
(and I mean really YANK) at my hair to the point of me screaming.   Before
I get to the "what-did-you-do-to-your-hair?" stage, can anyone tell me
at what age babies STOP pulling mommy's hair?  I've tried putting my
hair in a pony tail, but he still manages to grab a few strands.  Any other
suggestions will be gladly taken.

Donna
From: winner@Apple.COM (Stephanie Winner)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Diaper Services - worth it ?
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:49:50 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <owens.721325099@gargoyle.uchicago.edu> owens@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Christopher Owens) writes:
>In <EezN0zq00VB1M49nw_@andrew.cmu.edu> mh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mary Hart) writes:
>
>> Environmentally speaking, I felt good about using cloth rather than 
>> disposables, and that was worth a lot to me.
>
>I'm hoping that wider awareness of these issues will result in a
>market for a more environmentally-friendly disposable diaper,
>specifically one that is made from unbleached fiber.

Yeah!  And how about an environmentally-friendly disposable diaper
for adults!  With the growing aged population I am surprised that
no one ever mentions choosing cloth over disposable for adults.
From: singer@almaden.ibm.com (David Singer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Potty Training FAQ, please?
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:35:30 GMT
Reply-To: singer@almaden.ibm.com (David Singer)
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center

Can someone send me a copy of the Potty Training FAQ?  Joanne Petersen,
the official keeper of the FAQ, has just had a baby and isn't able to
respond promptly to mail.  Thanks!

--  
David Singer -- Internet: singer@almaden.ibm.com   BITNET: SINGER at ALMADEN
                Voice: (408) 927-2509              Fax: (408) 927-4073
(If I needed a disclaimer, I'd put one here.)
From: lindsay@sesame.lbl.gov (Lindsay Schachinger)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Child Security and Childcare (was Re: 20/20 and Spanking)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:25:43 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
Reply-To: lindsay@sesame.lbl.gov (Lindsay Schachinger)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.22

In article <1992Nov18.004611.2006@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> ashley@osc.edu (Ashley Burns) writes:
>is not a cryer anymore, but he doesn't eat very well at all at his day
>care home; he is nervous a lot (he startles easily); breastfeeding 
>was difficult during his colic problems (he struggled a lot) and now 

Yeah! Actually I like to think of David as "sensitive" --- he is
easily overstimulated and was fussy quite alot for the first 8
months. Now that he can move around on his own, he's alot
happier, but still doesn't sleep as well in daycare, etc. I
really had a hard time at first, watching the other babies in my
mother's group who all seemed so mellow. No way we could have
taken David to Acapulco for a week at 4 months like one couple we
know did. We all would have been miserable, and in the hotel room
most of the time. Now I feel like David is actually a pretty good
match for us --- I'm fairly high-strung myself. But for a long
time it was hard not to think it was my fault.

Strangely enough, my mother's group helped, because it became
strikingly clear that each baby was different. For instance, two
babies whose mothers were both with them almost all the time went
through separation and stranger anxiety quite differently. So
clearly it wasn't something (obvious) the mothers were doing. I
didn't really feel that the mothers of the laid-back babies
understood what I was experiencing, though. And I still bristle a
bit when people say what an easy time they've had as a mother!

Lindsay
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: pam@netcom.com (Pamela Araki)
Subject: How to Deal with Overly Shy 6 Month Old
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:04:38 GMT

Hi!  I need some help ...

My six month old, Brandon, is *extremely* shy.  He refuses to be
held by anyone but mom, dad, and one of his grandmothers.  If 
anyone so much as looks at him the little lower lip goes out and
he starts bawling.  It's rather embarassing at stores and when
we go for walks cause people come up to him and want to be
friendly and get a lower lip and crying instead of a happy baby.

He had colic for the first 3 months and I held him almost 
constantly during that time.  I know that you really can't
spoil a baby that young, but I wonder if I have.  I'm at home
with him all day so I wonder if I have made him this shy from
lack of interaction with other people.  He does like other
children, however.  He really has a problem with most men and
older women, especially the kind that wear too much lipstick.
It's kinda funny to see his preferences.

Anyway, how do I break him of this?  If I as much as leave
the room he gets anxious.  And, I'm with him almost constantly.
It can't be lack of attention, just maybe too much attention.
Any ideas?  Any comments would be very appreciated.

Thanks!

-pam
From: jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Judi Mancuso)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: My firstborn ain't a baby anymore!
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:53:31 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Linda writes about noticing how her firstborn is now turning into a
man......she listened to a tape from his childhood....
> [stuff deleted for space]
>It was at that moment that I reflected that it had been a while
>since I had my son cry "Mommy" in the middle of the night, and now
>he's 12!  He had grown, but my reactions haven't.
> 
>a mom
>P.S. I have a five-year old thank goodness!


Linda--Your quick message brought tears to my eyes!  I have a son who is
now 7.  Somewhere along the line--and I do not know when it happened--he
grew up.  I see him vasalating between wanting some of the "mushy"
things (like kisses, hugs, snuggling) and trying to be "big" and not
wanting them.  Sometimes he says, "Mommy, can you cuddle with me" and
then other times (especially when  I drop him off at school)--he
deliberately asks me not to kiss him or say anything "weird" (he means
things like--"I love you, have a nice day").  If I catch him  before he
gets out the car he doesn't mind a kiss but outside the car, these
things are off limits. But, I can see the day coming--and not too far in
the future--when mommy becomes mom---his bedroom is his own private
haven to escape us and his kisses are reserved for either young girls or
mom-- but only on Christmas, my birthday or if I beg.  He gave up
kissing relatives about a year or so ago.  My sister is the only one who
deals with that reasonably well.  Since she is his favorite person--he
puts up with her tackling him to the ground and "stealing kisses"--but
for Nana and grandma and all those great-aunts--they don't like it one
bit and make a huge fuss over his "NO KISSES" policy.  They say they
will begin stealing them too.  Of course, I can't see Nana, Grandma and
the great-aunts wrestling him to the ground for a kiss!!!!

It is fascinating to watch a child grow.  My father used to tell me "in
a blink of an eye, they are grown."  However, he used to say this to me
after I had been up all night with a screaming infant or after I had
been chasing a wild, over sugared toddler!  Naturally, I would just hope
he was right---"PLEASE LET HIM GROW UP QUICK AND GIVE ME MY SANITY."  I
can't help but be proud that I managed to raise a child to this
point--and that I think he is a pretty decent human being.  But, now I
look forward to NOT having the next decade go so quickly--I really want
my boy to want a hug every now and then--and come to think of it--I will
truly miss it when he stops calling out to "mommy" for comfort.
  
I have a 17 month old girl-- people  tell me the mom-daughter
relationship is quite different than the mom-son one.  It doesn't
matter, though.  I'll get used to whatever I have to---just as long as I
have my 2 dear children and I get a few kisses a year..........Judi 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:14:00 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: tape players for a 2.5 year old
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: 

vicki@mathcs.emory.edu (Vicki Powers) writes:
>
>There were 3 votes for the Disney player.
>
>Two people said that their child didn't like the Fisher-Price player because
>the buttons were hard to operate.  One person complained that the door on
>their Disney player jammed several times.

We had the same problem with our Disney player, and even returned one to
the store.  When the second one did it too, my wife called Mattel.  The
lady at Mattel said to put in fresh batteries and the door would work. 
It makes no sense to me (I dismantled the 1st player to get the tape
out, and could only see mechanical links between the ``eject'' button
and the door release), but we tried it and it seems to work.

NiCd (rechargable) batteries are highly recommended, BTW.  You'll go
broke buying Alkalines for one of these monsters!

Geoff Allen

-- 
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uunet!pmafire!geoff   \  No good.... Some people come, see. Good!
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: cmoussav@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Carla Moussavi)
Subject: Asthma, Milk Allergy, Cute Story
Organization: DHL Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:54:29 GMT


Hi Everyone,
  Just wanted to thank everyone for their responses about Alexander's possible
asthma or milk allergy.  I'm going to take him for a second opinion, although
now he's sounding much better again, not nearly as wheezy, etc...  He's still
coughing a lot though.
  I thought I'd contribute a "cute story" - this is one of my favorite topics 
when reading your articles.
  Alexander (19 months) is just now starting to talk - he says maybe 4 or 5 
words - Dada, cracker, dog, Bella (our dog). Anyhow, I'm always saying "Hi" 
to him - when he first wakes up in the morning, when he goes off to play 
with something and then comes back, etc...  Last weekend I stayed at my Mom's 
house since my husband is on a business trip (I hate being home alone).  I 
was sleeping in the bed with Alexander next to the bed, in a portacrib. About 
7am he woke up and wanted to be in the bed. I put him in the bed next to me, 
sharing the same pillow. We were both laying on our sides, facing eachother.
I fell asleep again, and woke up a few minutes later.  Alexander was still 
laying on his side, eyes wide open, watching me sleep. As soon as my eyes 
opened, he smiled and in the cutest voice ever, said, "Hi!"   
What a great way to wakeup!

                            Carla Moussavi
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: choi@win48.nas.nasa.gov (Diana Choi)
Subject: Re: vaporizer, anyone?  replaces decongestant
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:12:28 GMT

(Paula Burch) writes:
>My conclusion has been--drugs are WONDERFUL! The difference in Will 
>before getting a dose of Tylenol and after getting it was remarkable. The 
>Pediacare (pseudoephedrine, essentially infant Sudafed) helped a lot, too, 
>but it made him more wakeful. Are there other decongestants for infants that 
>have less of this stimulant effect?

I too would like to know of any substitutes for Pediacare.  Although it
works great on congestion, it makes my baby get up in the middle of the
night and start fussing.  It gets especially bad if she's also had some
Pediacare during the day.

diana
Newsgroups: misc.kids