HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jtteh@genghis.borland.com (J.T. Teh)
Subject: Re: How to ignore undesirable news posters
Originator: jtteh@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:02:07 GMT

Just a note of information....

It is possible to construct a kill file that will filter out any
undesirables so that you'll never ever have to read or see any
news post from that undesirable ever again.

soc.culture.asean:!n=:<Enter undesirable's name here>

For users of nn, add the above line into your kill file in your .nn
directory. The "n" in the "!n" line denotes name. Using an "s" changes
the kill to the subject line instead. Using "/" instead of "=" makes
nn grep for the regular expression.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
Subject: Re: Social Development Unit (Re : was Sins of Singapore)
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:14:34 GMT

(text deleted)

> I do not know of the percentage of students having assistance extended to
> them.  The current principal, Eugene Wijeysingha has said that this is done
> on a very discreet basis as some people might not take such "hand-outs"
> easily.  I feel that one should not be ashamed to be receiving such help.  
> Last year, the kid who topped the PSLE was granted admission to RI. His 
> family, however, was not able to support him.  His plight came to the 
> attention of Mendaki (the boy happens to be a Malay), and Mendaki arranged 
> for funds for him.  RI, I believe, also made provisions for him.
> 
> I have every confidence that nobody is denied a place just because he does 
> not have the funds.
>
> Enjoy.
> --
> Harish Pillay |                  |    Internet:   harish%csar@uunet.uu.net
> Singapore     | +65-775-0224 (w) |"Psst!  Wanna buy some mint-flavoured gum?"

I take your point that IF RI admits students on basis of merit - i.e. only the
best in terms of PSLE results are admitted with financial support given to those
who are not able to afford the fees - then the new system is fair and equitable.
That means that if 100% of those who most merit entry can't afford the fees, then
100% of the students would be financially assisted. Frankly, I can't see that 
happening - not for very long, anyway. Moreover, RI is not the only 'top' school 
in Singapore. Even if RI made academic performance the only requirement for entry,
it is unlikely that SJI or ACS would follow the same policy. It would be a shame 
if in a couple of years, only the children of the richer folk are enrolled in the
Independent schools while only a very few of the very best among the children of
the poorer folk made it into those same schools. Perhaps the analogy is 
inappropriate but do we want our independent schools to be like the 'public schools'
of the United Kingdom while our government schools share the status of the grammer
or comprehensive schools of the U.K.

Edmund
From: ciar04@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Social Development Unit (Re : was Sins of Singapore)
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:31:00 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Testing.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: sya@pe5.pe.utulsa.edu (Syed Shibli)
Subject: Re: Social Development Unit (Re : was Sins of Singapore)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:07:39 -0500
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W.H. Watt writes:

> The point I am trying to make about the so called "no credit limit" claim by
> AMEX is that this is sort of a misrepresentation on their part.  Off course
> I am not talking about the justification of this "internal" credit limit;
> mind you, I think ALL credit cards/charge cards should have some sort of
> credit limit to minimise possible credit card fraud.

  I agree with you completely. I think one of the biggest weaknesses in the
  credit card protection schemes in the United States is the "maximum liability"
  clause. The "maximum liability" of any cardholder for each lost or stolen 
  card is fifty dollars for cases reported within twenty four hours of theft
  or lost. While this serves to protect the cardholder splendidly, the impact
  of any liability is often felt by the merchant itself. I am not sure as to how 
  credit card companies handle such cases. When you have a merchant accepting your
  card at their stores, I should think that some sort of recompense would
  have to be given to the abused party should some card filcher come in and
  buy thousands of dollars worth of goods using a stolen card.

> Regarding the interest levied on unpaid charges, the amount charged by
> American Express and Visa is almost identical (usually 2% per month, 
> calculated on a daily basis, with effect from the date the transaction
> appear on your statement and not the date of the statement).  American
> Express (and Diners Club) require you to pay the full amount on your
> statement, while Visa requires you to pay between 5% (I think Citibank Visa)
> to 10% (most banks), minimum usually either $5 to $10.  Both Amex
> and Visa will record your delinquency cycle (how long the period of
> non-payment). 

  A couple of years ago American Express announced its Optima Card scheme
  which enables cardmembers in good standing to enjoy the benefits (!) of
  partial payments. The interest rates are highly competitive. The catch is 
  that you would have to retain your American Express cardmembership. 

--
                                                     --Syed Shibli
                                                       ssr48327@vax.utulsa.edu
                                                       +1 918 631 3257


  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: edward@iti.gov.sg (Edward Lim)
Subject: Soccer #25: Semi-Pro League Div I: Matches played on 29 Jul 92
Originator: edward@hephaistos.iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:25:55 GMT


Selangor still in the doldrums
------------------------------

Selangor did little to help its battle against relegation when it was held 2-2 by Johor at the Merdeka
Stadium on Wednesday night.  Selangor led twice through goals by Malek Rahman (11th minute) and Tim
Bredbury (31st) but Johor's Khalid Shahdan (19th) and Abbas Saad (67th) ensured that the points were
shared.

Other results
-------------

Sabah also fell deeper in its fight against relegation when it lost 2-1 away to Terengganu.  Sabah took a
shock lead against title-chasers Terengganu when it scored through former M'sian international Henry
Anjun in the 22nd minute.  But that only triggered Terengganu into action and the home side needed only
three minutes to equalize through Czech striker Marian Valach.  Midfielder Badrul Hisham Abdullah netted
what proved to be the winner five minutes before half-time.

In Kuching, Sarawak was held to a 1-1 draw by Perak.  Sarawak took the lead through a David Evans goal in
the 2nd minute but Perak's M'sian winger P. Ravindran struck home the equalizer 24 minutes later.

In Seremban, KL's title hopes took a heavy beating when it succumbed 2-0 to goals from Negri's Bozik
brothers.  Elder brother Miroslav netted the first in the 15th minute and Robert sealed KL's fate with
the killer goal in the 62nd minute.

How They Stand
--------------

Pahang          14   8   4   2   22    8   20
Terengganu      14   7   4   3   22   15   18
Negri Sembilan  15   5   5   4   19   18   17
Perak           15   4   8   3   18   14   16
Sarawak         14   5   6   3   12   11   16
KL              15   5   4   6   13   13   14
Johor           15   5   4   6   21   26   14
Sabah           15   4   4   7   15   25   12
Singapore       14   3   4   7   18   20   10
Selangor        15   2   5   8   13   23    9
-- 
Edward Yew-Sih LIM                    | Internet: edward@iti.gov.sg
Knowledge Systems Lab                 | Bitnet:   edwardlim@itivax
Information Technology Institute      | Tel:      (65) 772-0902
National Computer Board of Singapore  | Fax:      (65) 777-3043
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: SSR48327@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Syed Shibli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: RI, VI, MCKK, PFS, (some old school in Melaka), Chung Ling, ACS(Ip)
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:37:04 GMT
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nor@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Nor-Azlan Nordin) writes:

> This is what driving the teachers crazy.  Everything is given; but,
> the students didn't live up to the standard.  I can imagine the same
> things happen in other boarding schools (ie. MCKK, TKC etc.).  Perhaps,
> their respectives old boys/girls can clarify this.

  There's bound to be one or two "academic failures" at any school.
  But they were the extreme minority at the Malay College. Most 
  started out with outstanding Primary School records but ended up
  doing poorly on the O Levels (SPM). During my last year there (in
  1985), only one dropped out of the O Levels for personal reasons
  which I never had the chance to find out. The rest passed the O Levels.
  I think this decline you talk about is mostly imaginary. From what
  I have heard from my sister (who attended TKC), her school's performance
  in the O Levels has been nothing short of spectacular. I should think
  that on average, the best female students in the nation perform 
  better than the boys. Interesting, no?   

-- 
                                              --Syed Shibli
                                                ssr48327@vax1.utulsa.edu
                                                +1 918 631 3257
From: goh@nyquist.usc.edu (K.C.Goh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Putera Puteri Negara Jaya..
Date: 28 Jul 1992 15:17:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nyquist.usc.edu


Can anybody help?

"Sungguh gemilang negeriku,
Yang ku puja, negara Malaysia,
...."

"Putera puteri negara jaya,
kota, desa, ..
Padamu harapannya bangsa,
Seandai cita-cita"

Can somebody who has the full lyrics of the songs above
please post them ?  I'm getting ready for August 31st. B-)

Regards,

K.C. Goh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: NTU posting problems solved
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:25:47 GMT

In article <2995226@MTS.RPI.EDU> Black_Swan@MTS.RPI.EDU () writes:

:  
: Do you know that this is read the world over? Put your
: distribution to local so that only your users read this. It
: is a waste of bandwidth considering that news propagate and
: are stored in many machines and that many have to pay for the
: newsfeed.

I knew about that but for various reasons I have opted to this. Our local
channels are congested. Those from NTU who would like to post using tin
usually would only read soc.culture.asean not the local channels. We use
different systems for the local channels. Our main OS is VMS. Only the
priveleged few can have access to tin.

:  
:  
: |e> I have told roland about this but he has not done anything yet. 
:  
: I feel sorry for Roland. He is broadcasting Roland's deficiency
: or inefficiency to the whole world. All you know Roland may
: be busy with things that are of higher priority or he has
: already set aside time to work on this!  You should have put
: the period after ``this''.  Give the man a chance!
I have given him a few weeks already. So I must resort to other means of
getting information. I was hoping more concrete help from people like you.
Remember, internet access is a new experience for us.
	This is only the tip of the iceberg. Just giving you people warm ups
as to what I am going to do. I have given hints to our CC. There are still
a lot of deficiencies(or otherwise) which should be debated by usenet readers.
First asean readers because out of loyalty to ones country, the would willingly
help, or lobby for better services. 
	If I knew what I am doing I would not broadcast. If this group is not
enough I intend to broadcast to other more technical groups. Roland has his
priorities. I know he can solve this problem given time. To speed things up it
would be better to get help from users or other fellow users.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia )
Subject: Re: Sins of Singapore?
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:11:11 GMT

In article <BroAr9.9JM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sbog6936@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bin Ong) writes:
> 
> elejaya@nuscc.nus.sg (Jayasooriah) writes:
> 
> >harish@csar.uucp (Harish Pillay) writes:
> >: elejaya@nuscc.nus.sg (Jayasooriah) writes:
> >: 
> >: Well, you are forgetting what was done to the Anson constituency.  That 
> >: constituency was broken up and distributed to Tanjong Pagar and some other 
> >: neighbouring constituencies.  It looks like gerrymandering to me.
> 
> >You have a point w.r.t Anson.  That was a straight re-organisation of
> >the ward.  However, I doubt if it is possible to gerrymander with housing
> >resettlement.
> 
> Certainly it is possible: the HDB determines who and where one gets        
> what flats at ballots (previous), and then the plociy od ensuring that
> no one new town is saturated with one racial group. Sure it is
> good for racial de-segregation, Singapore-style, and racial harmony.
> Who says the govt is discrminatory?
> 
> >: --
> >: Harish Pillay |                  |    Internet:   harish%csar@uunet.uu.net
> >: Singapore     | +65-775-0224 (w) |"Psst!  Wanna buy some mint-flavoured gum?"
> >-- 
> >Jayasooriah PhD,    EE Dept, NUS | In a Greenwich Village Shop:              
> >10 Kent Ridge Cr, Singapore 0511 |                                           
> >Tel/Fax: +65 772-2295 / 772-1103 |                             "Ear piercing.
> >Internet:   elejaya@nuscc.nus.sg |        Your choice: with or without pain." 
> 
> Bin Ong


If the last election results was the product of PAP gerrymandering of
constituencies, then it must have been to the benefit of the opposition
in Singapore - unless the PAP were unbelievably stupid or incompetent

Edmund
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Subject: Re: Loving Malaysian Prince:New Developments
Reply-To: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:04:06 GMT


Ah Ping and Ah Yian and others:

I've tried to reason with this dude, Othman Bin Ahmad, but without
much success. He's been trying to bring the discussion to 
involve racial feelings by callin the Chinese names etc etc. He's also
said I'm the biggest liar on this earth etc etc and he, and only he, 
is trying to give the perspective of "others in that region" (i.e.
Singapore and Malaysia, I presume). Claims to be the spokesman.

Let's ignore this bloke and he'll go away. He's only setting himself
up as I'm sure some of his employers are also monitoring the newsgroup
from NTU. Jeee...wheezz..he doesn't even have a disclaimer to
disassociate himself from NTU.

Bottomline: Let's not be persuaded to get into a racial discussion here.



Ah Tan
Bangsa: Raja    <---Pisang Raja, that is.  ;)



Disclaimer: I may be from Malaysia but my folks sure didn't teach me
	    "Sultans are a kind of race".
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Credit/Charge Card (was Re: Social Development Unit)
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:02:37 GMT

In article <920724191719.2080a6a0@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU>, SSR48327@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Syed Shibli) writes:
|>
|>   Operationally that is the spending patterns and past payment records of
|>   each cardholder. This is not a credit limit, however. I call it security.
|>   A record of the cardmember's past spending patterns gives them a good
|>   feel of what the cardholder might or might not spend money on. The issue
|>   between charge and credit cards is that credit cards make it easier for
|>   one to be far behind on payments. Sure, you pay less in annual fees, but
|>   credit card issuers "make up" for that by charging exorbitant interest
|>   rates. I think the overhead evens out, eventually. American Express charges
|>   more annual fees but you would have to pay all your bills in full. Credit
|>   cards emulate this to some extent: they have what you call the "grace"
|>   period, that time of the month when you say grace and hope you'd have 
|>   enough money to pay the next bill.
|> 
|> -- 
|>                                               --Syed Shibli
|>                                                 ssr48327@vax1.utulsa.edu
|>                                                 +1 918 631 3257

There are, of course, many people who pay their credit card bills in full all 
the time.  So what is the difference of an Amex charge card to the cardholder,
other than it's high annual fees?

...Kyle
Who needs the extra "privilege" of being an Amex member since ...
Most merchants prefer credit cards anyway.

My own opinion-LAH!!!
From: espbl@warwick.ac.uk (FLASH)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: TARCIAN
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:06:49 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <pkbnbmvt@csv.warwick.ac.uk> espcs@warwick.ac.uk (Khen Hong) writes:
>Hello,
>
>        Any ex-TARCIAN out there ?
>
>
>-- 
>Khen Hong

	Yes. I am. Graduated in 1990/91. School of Technology, Mechanical &
Manufacturing Engineering.

  TARCIAN means Tunku Abdul Rahman College IAN. :) Any ex-Tarcians in US?

Enjoy!

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From: SSR48327@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Syed Shibli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Internet Guide (was Re: soc-culture-asean)
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:11:14 GMT
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ng@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Ng Pek Yong) writes:

> >As Hock Koon Lim (lim@merlion.cwru.edu) was saying, there is a guide
> >call "ZEN: The internet guide" available for beginners, however it is
> >in .ps (postscript) format. Unless you have a postscript printer, you
> >won't be able to print it. I have the ascii version of the document
> >and I'll be willing to send it to anyone if you send me a email.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >***
> >Albert Foo, Campus Computing
> >University of Missouri
> >Internet: uc580503@mizzou1.missouri.edu
>
>Yes I am interested in the ascii version.
>Thanks in advance.

  It's rare that one gets to ponder deep into the bowels of a USENET
  reader's mind and psyche. Mr. Ng Pek Yong posted this request three
  times, each one an attempt to rectify the network sins of the previous.
  Had he known how to use the CANCEL command, considerably less bandwidth
  would have been expended. Thus one reads his first posting as:

    Yes, I am interested. So send me a copy.
    Thanks in advance.

  Satisfied with the general tone and nature of his request, he proceeds to
  post the article. But lo and behold! he rereads the article again and detects 
  the bold tenor of his request. Lest he offends a network of 200,000 readers,
  he rescinds this post and writes a more acceptable version of the above:

   Yes, I am interested. So please send me a copy.
   Thanks in advance. 

  He rereads the second post and a deep feeling of despair envelopes his
  entire being. Caught up in the feelings of self-guilt with his first
  article, he omits the mention of a request for an ASCII version of the file,
  which he truly needs. With alacrity, he writes a final post

    Yes, I am interested in the ascii version.
    Thanks in advance.

  and resumes his work for the day.
   


  Warm regards from across the network.

-- 
                                              --Syed Shibli
                                                ssr48327@vax1.utulsa.edu
                                                +1 918 631 3257
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: **** Australian citizens kidnapped by Malaysian Prince ****
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 07:26:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.023055.11685@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
(Othman Ahmad) writes:
>In article <199207230416.AA06135@pe5.pe.utulsa.edu> sya@pe5.pe.utulsa.edu
(Syed Shibli) writes:
>
>: joseph@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Joseph D'Cruz) writes:
>: 
>: > circumcision is referred to as a 'clitorectomy'.  The clitoris is the part
of
>: > the female sexual organs responsible for almost all sensual pleasure women
>: > experience during intercourse.  What you have done is to deny your
daughter
>: > the ability to experience pleasure during sexual intercourse.
>:                                                  +1 918 631 3257
>I missed joseph's news. 
>Can you explain a Singaporean's doctors comment that Muslims girls in
Singapore
>have more sexually desire than their non-muslim counterparts. I have seen
>blue movies, and I know my wife's reactions and I even discuss with her openly
>about this.
>	Which one do you believe? Me or you, who have never done it before?

Actually, NONE of the above constitute evidence.  I wouldn't trust a doctor as
far as I could throw her _unless_ she'd experienced sex both before _and_ after
a clitorectomy.  Nor blue movies.  Nor (sorry to say) your wife.

regardless,
Andrew

now hit d
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