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From: jjh@col.hp.com (Jeff Haeffele-x3570)
Subject: Cakewalk for Windows Question
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:04:59 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Is there a way to split a multi-part track into multiple individual
tracks in Cakewalk for Windows?

I usually work with multi-part harmony and have a friend that can record
all the parts at once onto a track but then I need a way to split the
parts into multiple tracks:  something like copying the top-most notes
from the source track to a separate destination track.  Presumably I
could do this four times and get the four part harmony onto four
separate tracks.

I played around with the Cakewalk demo but couldn't find a way to split
tracks based on the highest or lowest note of a chord in the track.  If
this can't be done in Cakewalk is there some other piece of software
that can do this, like Master Trax or Finale?

Thanks,

Jeff Haeffele
jjh@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: sullivan@nodename.dec.com (Greg Sullivan)
Subject: Sticking keys on Roland RD300S keyboard.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:42:07 GMT


Well, I'm back already.

I find that the keys on my RD300S stick at the *top* of their travel, to some
extent. It's been there since the say I bought it (about three years ago). I
thought that it might have gone away after it was worn in, but it hasn't. I
*think* that it's a bit better, but can't be sure.

I find that it does go away to some extent as it warms up during each session,
but it doesn't go away enough!

It makes soft playing difficult. I.e, I press the key softly - nothing happens, 
I press a bit harder, then *wham* it goes down all of a sudden. (Yes,
exaggerating a bit, but you know what I mean).

- Has anybody else noticed this?
- Can anything be done to help, or eliminate it?

Greg.
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From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: DR-660
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 14 SEP 92 08:51:52    


In article <716399907.780000.D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>, D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby) writes...
>  What I still don't understand is, why would *anyone* spend $700-$800 on
>an R8. Jeesh... Seems as if one is better off buying a 16-bit sampler/synth
>and doing all the drum work on it. I understand you can buy cards for the
>R8 but hell... you can buy all the sample discs you want for a sampler.
>What gives w/the high price tag of the R8???

As a *drum machine* the R8 goes light years beyond the Dr. Rhythm boxes.  For
use as a sample player, sure, the cheaper boxes may be a better buy.

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

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From: ecldco@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.C. Loyd)
Subject: Kawai K1-II patch savings
Originator: ecldco@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:37:05 GMT

I desperately need some help.  I recently purchased a used Kawai K1-II
keyboard that had had a factory modification done recently, resulting
in all of its sound patches being reset to (I believe) wave 29 across
the board.

I hook it up to my PC, dump the factory preset sounds, and it works okay,
but they won't save.  If I power down the machine for a while, the sounds
reset to the wave 29 preset.

Since it's used, it was missing a manual.  Other than that, it's physically
in perfect shape (and the electronics on the inside pass a visual and casual
electric inspection).  Can someone simply drop me a mail message describing
how to save all 32 sounds in internal memory, or do I have to download
the damned patches each time?

-Eric

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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: powerbook 100 users?
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:50:34 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: malcolm@wrs.com's message of 9 Sep 92 22:53:11 GMT

I'll reply here because (i) it's relevant and (ii) I'm lazy.

 > Do you know anything about the Powerbook 100 & midi?  They're cheap and look
 > like they would be a great computer for music, but the guy at the store told
 > me they won't drive a midi interface, pretty much the opposite of what I'd
 > heard from the MAX user's network.  Know anybody who uses a powerbook for
 > midi?  I'd like to talk to them if you do.   - arts@well.sf.ca.us

Yay, yet more disinformation strikes. I'll be able to write an entire
book soon. Read the article I just posted. The PB100 is a superb
little machine.  It only has one serial port so you might need a MTP
or something, and you probably have to avoid AppleTalk contention.

So, why did this guy at this store think the PB would be a problem?
Why do people come up with all these opinions? Has he ever tried it?
Why does someone who is presumably paid to know what he's talking
about actually not know?  (That holds for Kendall Wrightson in Sound
On Sound, the two Apple guys whose letter is in the September
KEYBOARD, and most of the rest of Apple.)

Nick.
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               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
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Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market,rec.music.synth
From: cain@silverblue.fac.cs.cmu.edu (Sebastian Nightingale Cain)
Subject: Emax SE forsale
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:31:31 -0400

Having discovered that I am in need of some cash rather soon,
I have decided to sell my Emax SE sampler.It comes with a hardshell
case, manuals, and about 100 or so disks.  I'm willing to
demo it to anybody who is local and interested. Asking $1400.

 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ptl@cs.tut.fi (Launiainen Petri)
Subject: Re: Cakewalk for Windows Question
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:12:54 GMT

(Tony R. Beltran) writes:
> (Jeff Haeffele-x3570) writes:
>>Is there a way to split a multi-part track into multiple individual
>>tracks in Cakewalk for Windows?
>> [stuff deleted]
>>I played around with the Cakewalk demo but couldn't find a way to split
>>tracks based on the highest or lowest note of a chord in the track.  If
>>this can't be done in Cakewalk is there some other piece of software
>>that can do this, like Master Trax or Finale?
>This is the type of problem the CAL language was designed to solve.  If

Surely you can do it with CAL, but using the event filter while
cutting is much simpler and is available without any fuss.  Just
select area and choose Edit...Cut...Use Event Filter...OK and mark the
limits you want to have for cutting.  Then move to destination track and
choose Paste on One Track. This is the tricky part: if you use standard
Paste, the stuff drops down to the original track, independent of your
current cursor track.

>you need some ideas, call Twelve Tone Systems and ask for the FREE CAL
>disk of sample programs.  This is a compilation of 25 CAL programs that

Any chance of seeing those on some file server ? louie.udel.edu perhaps ?

/petri
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: SysEx progs for the PC
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:52:41 GMT

I acquired the programs getit.exe and midiex.exe from various ftp
sites.  Both of them work fine as long as I'm sending SysEx data
to my synth.  But, neither program is allowing me to send SysEx data
from my synth to my PC.

Any advice?  I would really like to be able to do this ASAP!


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From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: Re: KORG M1 Patches
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:20:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.171143@ulci20.unil.ch> dhenchoz@ulci20.unil.ch (Daniel HENCHOZ) writes:
|>Hello World !
|>
|>I'm looking for KORG M1 Patches. Can someone tell me where I can find some of
|>them on the Internet Network ??
|>
|>Thanks in advance !
|>
|>						Daniel


             louie.udel.edu  /pub/midi/patches/M1


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: How does SCSI Musical Data Interchange (SMDI) work?
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:02:07 GMT

How does SCSI Musical Data Interchange (SMDI) work?

Any pointers to descriptions and specifications are appreciated!

Thanks a lot!
/m

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From: gints@roadkill.esd.sgi.com (Gints Klimanis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Captain Waldorf is blowing his top. (Re: Why I like the Mac for Music)
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:37:06 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <NICK.92Sep7140405@vaila.ed.ac.uk>, nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick
Rothwell) writes:
|> In article <mxmora-040992140638@css-mac1.sri.com> mxmora@unix.sri.com
|> (Matthew Xavier Mora) writes:
stuff deleted

|>    I know the new sound manager
|>    will have a midi synth driver that will support general midi.
|> 
|> Oh, wow.
Well, in most of the circles I hang out, the term "General MIDI" is
routinely substituted for MIDI and often followed by the question
"What's a MIDI?"  If you can bear to put up with a little hand-holding
instead of blowing your top, you may find that EVERY computer will sport
a MIDI interface, standard


|>    This way you can
|>    write midi music for your apps and know that the user will be able
|> to hear
|>    the sound even if they don't have a midi synth.
|> 
|> Excuse me, I've got to visit the bathroom, like Gene Spafford
|> suggests in the
|> USEnet user's guide, before I blow my top.
|> 
|> This is f*cking useless. It's also false: How the hell are you going
|> to hear my synth music on anything other than the dedicated synth
|> hardware and effects processing I have available to me? I need a
|> MIDI

With some of the fast CPU's coming out NOW, you can reasonably compute
and sequence a >16 voice sampler with effects.  Let the music market
expand in competition.  There will be more money to develop cutting edge
gear (custom VLSI), instead of R&D cuts for survival preceding death.

General MIDI is a good way to convince the computer industry to adopt a
music industry standard.  Computer manufacturers are not interested in
pursuing the professional music market because most of the staff knows
nothing about it.  Bring them closer with some kind of standard.

Hang out. Play with your elite toy collection.  Then, savor the fruit.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bohdan.kiszczuk@rose.com (bohdan kiszczuk)
Subject: Win 3.1 MIDI sequenci
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:40:03 GMT
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Date Entered: 09-08-92 11:24
K > From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
K > Subject: Win 3.1 MIDI sequencing programs
K > I have been using Dos based MIDI sequencing packages on my 
pc/clone for
K > quite some time and wanted to upgrade to Windows 3.1 based midi programs?
K > Does anyone know of any?  I list would be very helpful (with company name
K > and descriptions)
K >  - Thanks in advance
K >  - Kirk

        I upgraded from Cakewalk Pro 4.0 to Cakewalk for Windows and 
have had no regrets.

Here are some of the features:

Event list, event filter with conditional editing, fractional tempos, 
quantization by %, synchs to SMPTE/MTC, supports multiple midi 
interfaces (as long as you have the Windows drivers for the 
interface), 256 tracks, graphical controller view/editing, staff 
view/editing (no printing yet), piano roll view/edit, graphical 
editable faders, drag and drop editing, graphical tempo map, 256 bank 
sysx librarian, supports wave events for embedding digital audio 
(.WAV). Supports Windows MME, midi mapper, and MCI commands.

It's put out by Twelve Tone Systems. There's a working demo available 
vis ftp somewhere and on a lot of BBS including Compuserve. You can 
reach them at 800-234-1171 and order a demo directly from them. I 
think it's $10.

Other Windows sequencers worth looking at are MasterTracks Pro, 
Cadenza and Cubase. 

Twelve Tone probably has the best user support in the business and 
that gives one a warm and fuzzy feeling all over. 

Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with Twelve Tone other than 
            being a satisfied customer.
 
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MOTU Midi Mixer 7s + OMS + MIDI Manager
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:38:54 GMT
	<1992Sep9.152546@disuns2.epfl.ch>
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch's message of 9 Sep 92 13:25:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.152546@disuns2.epfl.ch> matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira) writes:

   Has anybody managed to make 7s console work with the OMS midi manager driver?
   I would like to have my Opcode programs to work "behind the back" of
   MIDI Manager,
   but the only way I can make 7s console work is on its own, or using the
   Apple
   MIDI driver, which obliges me to throw away the OMS Standard Interface
   Driver.

I presume the Mixer7S just takes MIDI controller and SysEx messages
via a MIDI In port. Where's the problem? Is it with the controller
software? I would dearly hope this is MIDI Manager compatible, in
which case I see no problem. If it isn't MM compatible, I'd beat MOTU
over the head with a rolled-up Performer manual.

  On another side, as I saw that the MTP is supported by Opcode as well as Dr. T,

Supported as an interface, but not for software configuration.

  I thought I could move from a Studio 3 to an MTP II, but for what people have 
  been writing here it doesn't seem such a good idea. Nick : what is this
  "continual grief" with the MTP?

My MTP is fine. The problems I'm having are with the bl**dy
configuration DA which has never ever worked totally reliably, only
runs on one of my three Macs, crashes the machine whenever it exits,
and doesn't use MIDI Manager or OMS so that I have to exit all
applications, run the DA, and reboot whenever I want to change
something.

I sincerely hope that the MTP-II configuration software is properly MIDI
Manager compatible (and is a proper application as well). This doesn't do
me a lot of good unless I buy an MTP-II though. At $1200 UK price, and
with a stuck-up attitude from Sound Technology plc, I'm not going to.
Time to give Jamie Robertson a call and think about shipping one.

Oh: the MTP-II takes mains power. Can it be flipped from 120V -> 240V?
(Marc?)

Nick.
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               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
From: matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Digital Recording software for NeXT ?
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:35:29 GMT
Reply-To: matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

I am looking for something 'a la Studio Vision' or better.
Any pointers? (FAX, phone numbers!!)

Thanks.

-- 
Fernando D. Mato Mira
Computer Graphics Lab
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
matomira@ligsg1.epfl.ch
From: na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nicolas Alejandro Arauz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: guitar stuff
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:57:13 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Does anyone know if there is arelatively active conference I can join
that discusses guitar, effects processsors, effects pedals, etc.  Most
of the activity I've been seeing is for synths, not only because this is
netnews.synth, but even in others like netnews.makers, etc.  Thanks for
any help!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cwilson@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chris Wilson)
Subject: Re: Super Jupiter/JX10 etc.
Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:03:56 GMT

In article <svynvq+.metlay@netcom.com> metlay@netcom.com (metlay) writes:
>The alphaJuno 1 and alphaJuno 2 were six-voice DCO-based analog synths that
>were designed to give "analog" sound and features for less cash. The 1 had
>a four-octave keyboard and the 2 had a five octave keyboard. Also the 2's
>keyboard sensed and transmitted something that the 1's didn't (aftertouch,
>I believe). Their module was the PG-300, and the rackmount version of the
>2 was the MKS-50.

This is pretty much it.  I owned an alphaJuno-1 for a few years...  my first
synth,  actually.  The 1 did not have velocity or aftertouch, whereas the
2 had both.  Other than that and the 1-octave difference,  the only difference
was that the 1 had a cassette tape port while the 2 had a ROM cartridge slot
instead.

-Chris Wilson
 cwilson@uiuc.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ecldco@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.C. Loyd)
Subject: Re: Attention MusicQuest owners
Originator: ecldco@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:50:34 GMT

In article <6282@transfer.stratus.com> gene@ok.sw.stratus.com (Eugene Loparco) writes:
>I own a Roland JV-30 and have recently hooked it up to my PC (386-25) via
>the MusicQuest PC Midi Card.  The problem I have is that when I play my
>keyboard without hooking it up, it sounds fine, however, when I plug it into
>my computer the sounds are distorted.  This happens only when the computer
>is on and the MIDI in cable (on the keyboard) is plugged in (the MIDI out
>cable has no effect).  So when recording using cakewalk, I can't really hear
>the true sounds.  Curiously, though, when playing back through cakewalk, the
>sounds are true.  Note that this isn't a cakewalk problem because this happens
>even if I play the keyboard without a sequencer loaded on my pc.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Gene

The MusicQuest cards echo MIDI in to the MIDI out by default.  If your
keyboard is trying to play MIDI in sources at the same time as it is
playing keyboard sources, then you'll get double notes each time you hit
one with a microsecond delay between them.

Try turning LOCAL CONTROL (or some similar parameter) off on your synth.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:10:40 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Midi Interface for Sun/SGI?
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>From: Curt Malouin <malouin@EDU.UMICH.ENGIN>
>Subject:      Re: Midi Interface for Sun/SGI?
>
>In article <1992Sep8.193710.4208@wdl.loral.com> hgs@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Harry
>Salvini) writes:
>>
>>All well and good.  The problem is, we want to just send a signal out
>>of the Sun (or an SGI), and drive the EMAX II directly, and not mess
>>with the "repeater" thing on the Amiga.
>>
>>What do you, the net-land, think would be an appropriate MIDI interface
>>for a Sun/SGI host?
>
>A Key MIDIator would be perfect for this.  It's a serial port MIDI
>interface, but you'd have to write your own driver for it (or find
>one).  You can call Key Electronics at 1-800-KEE-MIDI.  There's
>also a MIDIator mailing list, serial-midi@engin.umich.edu.  Email
>serial-admin@engin.umich.edu if you'd like to get involved.
>

Key electronics make an RS232 MIDIator, but it is more expensive than
the PC MIDIator, though I have heard you can use the latter if you know how.

But for an SGI, just use any Mac MIDI interface. I connect a MIDIMAN Mini Mac
100 (no laughter please) to connect the SGI's /dev/ttyd2 (can use ttyd1 I
assume) to any MIDI gizmo. Works fine for me. There is some initialisation
code which the peole at Silicon Graphics supply freely (or I can send it
to you if you like).

My MIDI interface is basically 1 in 1 out (actually 3 out but the outs are
not seperately addressable). I don't know what will happen if you connect
a more complex interface to the port (MIDI time piece or whatever) but I'm
told that if it works on a Mac it should work on a SGI.

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: glennd@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Glen Deardorff GDP)
Subject: Re: New Korg 03R/W For Sale (New Price)
Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:18:16 GMT

I stand enlightened about the "low, low" prices on this baby.  Actually, I was never enlightened to begin with.  My brother said he bought it for $1200, and verily,
decided to ask $1000.  Considering the $850 - $900 street price that people have been
quoting, he's now asking $750.  He'll probably be trying to sell it locally for more, but feel free to make an offer if you so desire.

George:	(408) 479-4490

Again, if you live in the South Bay Area, you can also contact me at

	(415) 604-3169

or in any case, e-mail me at glennd@george.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: rga@rti.rti.org
Subject: Info wanted on Super Jupiter/JX10
Keywords: jupiter, MKS70
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 16:22:58 GMT

O' wise and omnipotent guardians of rec.music.synth, could I, just a
lowly novice of analog and midi, trouble you for some info on ...

****** Sizzle, flame *****
Ouch, ouch [jump, hop], oh, quit !!!!!
[ dodging flames ]

:) Just Kidding

Seriously, I am in need of a description of the sound producing
capability of the Roland Super Jupiter/JX10 keyboard. I have a line on
one.

My understanding is that the Super JX is in some way comparable to the
MKS70 rack unit, no ?
	- Does it have any master controller capability ?
	- Does it have the same synthesis architecture ?

Any help much appreciated.
Randy Alley
rga@rti.rti.org




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