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From: lazarus@ug.cs.dal.ca (Chuck Turner)
Subject: Space Rangers
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:33:33 GMT

Howdy folks!

   I watched CBS's Space Rangers last night (on a local independant station),
and I'm wondering why they didn't show this episode four weeks ago when it
should have been aired.  It is obviously the pilot episode, for it introduces
all the characters.  If this episode had been shown in sequence, it would
have made the other episodes (slightly) less confusing.

   Anybody have any ideas?

					- Chuck 

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From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "Dr. Ruth": observations
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 12:04:37 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <3323@tardis.Tymnet.COM>

>In article <1993Jan20.060746.22552@midway.uchicago.edu> rck1@midway.uchicago.e
d
>u writes:
>>Why would Sam's brainwaves be mixing with Dr. Ruth's? There was
>>absolutely no reason for it, and it was merely a distraction.
>
>A lot of that has been happening this season.  Don Bellasario says that
>we will be seeing a lot more of that happening this season and next.
>He likes it that way.
>--
>Joe Smith

   "This season and next"? Ah, Don B. is quite the optimist.
   
   -Brian

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From: spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Havenhurst (Class of '96)
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:49:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan27.174943.19878
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

OK, now that we've established that the campus scenes were filmed at 
U. of Toronto, I've got a related question to be answered:

Where, within the context of the show, is Havenhurst supposed to be?
Was its location ever mentioned? (Presumably somewhere in North America!)
It doesn't appear to be California, though most of the young women on the
show have Southern California accents (hardly avoidable).

Note that some TV shows with an East Coast setting do still film exterior
shots around LA. For example, an episode of "thirtysomething" was filmed 
in my old neighborhood in Pasadena. They disguised an obvious palm tree
by wrapping a sheet of fake bark around it. Voila...Pennsylvania foliage.
From: x92ochs1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Welcome Back Kotter
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:55:32 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <C1CuEy.AIy@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu>, stile@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Howard Wilson) writes:
> 
> Recently, USA Network has been showing reruns of this show.  I used to
> LOVE this show, so I of course watch it now.  However, I have noticed
> something.  Kotter is missing.  His wife is still around.  Vinnie has
> his own place.  I don't remember these shows!  Was this a "last season" deal
> where Kaplan took a hike and they tried to carry on?  What DID happen
> to Gabe Kaplan?  Was there a "contract dispute" (kind of hard...his show)
> and he walked, or did he decide the show would do fine without Kotter, and
> stayed behind the scenes?  Or did he just get sick for a few week's worth
> of taping?
>  
> Howard Wilson II
> 
> --
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  If I remember correctly, this was the last season, or one of the last
seasons.  I believe that Kaplan left the show to try out stand-up comedy.
He appeared on a few shows, though.  I believe then he was the Vice Principal
and Mr. Woodman was the principal on these shows.  
It was one of those deals where the main character feels too important for
his own show I think.

Jeff
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Havenhurst (Class of '96)
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:05:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.174943.19878@husc3.harvard.edu> spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel) writes:
>OK, now that we've established that the campus scenes were filmed at 
>U. of Toronto, I've got a related question to be answered:
>
>Where, within the context of the show, is Havenhurst supposed to be?
>Was its location ever mentioned? (Presumably somewhere in North America!)
>It doesn't appear to be California, though most of the young women on the
>show have Southern California accents (hardly avoidable).
>

It's supposed to be an Ivy, so it must be in the Northeast.  It's in
the middle of nowhere, so it must be Dartmouth.



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	Who's "the loneliest monk?"
From: mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Is QL science fiction? (was Re: QL: Highlights of Don's talk)
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:05:43 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1993Jan27.033208.29039@netcom.com> sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:
>
>Silly analogy: I know very few SF fans who don't love *chocolate* who
>won't go to great lengths to get it, and talk about it with their
>friends -- but that doesn't make Hershey bars science fiction!

I have to admit, Sally, that I disagree. I like Barbara Hershey too, but
think my chances of meeting her are zero. Hence, she's science
fiction.:-)

I think the analogy breaks down because chocolate bars *don't* have
traditional elements of SF in them, whereas QL does. Part of the problem
here is that people argue over how to define SF itself, and I doubt any
of us want to try to tackle that question right now. But to my
definition, QL definitely falls into the category because of the fact
that they use a machine and a computer to travel through time. Time
travel itself is technically fanatsy, because as far as we know it's
impossible, but because it has been an sf staple for so long it falls
within the category. 

I will point out out though, that technically SF is best defined as a
publishing category. And guess where the Ashley McConnell QL books are
placed? In the SF section! Makes you think, doesn't it?

In all seriousness, I would like to pose a question to the net. Begging
the question of whether or not QL is SF, did anyone else out there
besides me start watching it because you consider it SF, or did you just
not take that into consideration? I'd really like to know, because no
matter what the producer may think, the category a show, book, or movie
may fall into sometimes does boil down to the fans who enjoy it.


-- 
Michael A. Burstein
Physics Department, Boston University         mab@buphy.bu.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
From:  (relgov)
Subject: Wretched Married w/Children
Organization: AA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:52:11 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv

Just saw the latest MWC episode and thought it was truly awful, pure
wretchedness.  Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan, and that's why I hold
this show on a high pedestal, which makes last night show all the more
unbearable.  It gets an F minus grade.  Why, Herman's Head was even better
(nothing to be proud of).  Why, I could probably sit through A Different
World or Quantum Leap compared to last night's show.

Here is how the grading went:  Al starts out with a fishing outfit on and
Buck gets a comment in (A-/B+ at this point - it actually had potential). 
Marcy shows up whining and agreeing to go with Al and Peggy on vacation
together (C+ at this point).  Bud and Kelly wake up and attempt to "catch"
up to them (B, this was O.K.).  "Seven" enters the seen (D - I'm being
optimistic here).  Seven utters a few words (F+).  Marcy and Peg grovel
over Al's attention and try to win his best side (F minus).  The sight of
Marcy, Peggy, and Al in the same bed, yeechh.  In the history of MWC, this
ranks the very bottom.  The next 8 or 10 worst shows are also from this
season.  It's a sad, sad, sight to see this show go down the toilet.  There
is nothing to watch on Sunday's anymore (sans 60 minutes).
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: CHEERS
From: acutshall@acs.harding.edu
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:40:16 -0600
Reply-To: acutshall@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

In article <qac3mvr@rpi.edu>, turneo@vccsouth13.its.rpi.edu (Omar Turner) writes:
>Keywords:
>
>I was wondering why there is not a CHEERS newsgroup,
>COME ON LETS GETONE STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
>

     That WOULD have been a great idea, but CHEERS is down to it's last
ten shows, unfortunately.  CHEERS has been my all-time-favorite for years!!
I liked Diane (Shelly Long) but I like Rebecca (Kirstie Alley) even better.
It's hard for me to pick my favorite of the cast; I love them ALL!!!  I'm
taping these last shows because I know they're going to be hilarious and
wonderful!
     Any other faithful CHEERS fans out there? I'd love to hear from ya!
                                     New Poster
                                     Alana
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: ** SAVE THE FAITH DANIELS SHOW! **
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:08:26 GMT

While your attempt to save the Faith Daniels show is admirable, you're
asking people to write to the wrong guy.  NBC News doesn't control Faith's
time slot, or any other slot on the schedule: NBC *Entertainment* does, or
rather the "programming department" in general.  If Programming decides
Faith's ratings suck, then it's THEIR decision as to what will replce that
show.  They could decide to let the News Division put something else there
(such shows are quite cheap to produce compared to soaps), or they could
put in a game show, reruns of "Wings", or even give the time back to the
local affiliates to run syndicated shows.  Ratings are all that matters,
so you should find yourself some different phone numbers tozap than Gartner's.

BTW, Gartner's kind of a jerk, and inundating him with calls and faxes is
more likely to just piss him off than anything else, and he DOES have the
power to cancel Faith himself and cede the time slot back to Programming.

--Aaron


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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: Re: QL: Coming out on videotape!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:23:42 GMT

In article <1jroroINNngb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:

>Sally, please, please, please tell me that it will be the origingal saga
>cells with these eps and not what USA is doing.  Also, original run?

I don't know; Don didn't say. He did say that the pilot would be the
2-hr. version, not the 90 min.

The episodes he mentioned were the pilot, Color of Truth, What Price
Gloria, Jimmy, The Leap Home and Vietnam. He couldn't remember the
other ones (as sick as he was, I'm surprised he remembered anything!).

>There goes my extra cash....leaping right out of my wallet.

Cash, heck, I'm going to need serious Visa abuse.

Sally
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I'm unemployed--these opinions *must* be mine!
"Don't investigate this too closely." -- Don Bellisario, re: "Quantum Leap"
From: marks@skat.usc.edu (Louise Marks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Picket Fences-- 1/22/93 spoilers
Date: 25 Jan 1993 10:34:32 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

firenza@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins) writes:

>  This show is starting to grow on me.  It's definitely strange, but it's also
>well done.  Tonight's episode really went all over the place.  I missed the
>beginning so I missed the initial reference to Mormans and was surprised when
>it was brought up at the trial, but when I watched my tape of it, it made
>more sense.  I was really thrown at the end, but I didn't feel cheated.  The
>defense lawyer is a riot.  I can see him getting an Emmy nomination for it.  He
>really has a grasp of the character.  

Wambaugh is my favorite!  I love the way he refered to his client
accused of incest:

"Wambaugh for the family man, Your Honor!"

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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: QL: Dr. Ruth
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:00:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.105722.1@skcla.monsanto.com> jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:

>
>But that's where the show failed:  Sam should have been there to help a young
>woman who's really messed up -- she can't distinguish reality.  A mere sexual
>harrassment problem should have been easily handled by Dr. Ruth herself.
>I was very disappointed to find out that the boss really was a creep.
>
>Joel


I think that was the point, Joel.  Especially with the Anita Hill reference --
I think the point was that women who report sexual harassment aren't lying
or insane.  It's something that happens and they should be believed -- no 
matter how smooth a talker the boss is.  And just in case the point wasn't 
driven home enough in the actual story, the writers slipped Anita Hill in.


Firestar


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From: berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca (Eva Chan)
Subject: Re: Kids in the Hall
Keywords: KITH, SNL, MMcK
Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eva Chan)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:35:32 GMT

Here is an interesting thing to note: Here in Montreal, we get one of 
CBS's affiliate (Plattsburgh, NY, I believe) and KITH is slotted for 
Friday nights around 11:30-Midnightish, correct?  Well, so far they've 
only showed KITH ONCE, and that was the first airing of the show on 
CBS.  Some complaint from people in upstate (uptight) New York
perhaps?  I'd like to know (not that it matters since it gets shown
on CBC anyways at that time).

Feedback on this appreciated. :)

- Eva


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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: QL: Coming out on videotape!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:42:04 GMT

Yes, Universal has finally Seen The Light (and the merchandising
possibilites).  The QL pilot and 4 other early episodes will come out
on videotapes we can all rush right out and buy this summer, then 5
other early (1st and 2nd seasons) ep's later on. No announcement
yet as to exactly what episodes.

Sally
SP...stereo...uncut...sigh...


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I'm unemployed--these opinions *must* be mine!
"Don't investigate this too closely." -- Don Bellisario, re: "Quantum Leap"
From: parvin1@husc11.harvard.edu (Douglas Parvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: CHEERS
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:41:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.parvin1.728019695

acutshall@acs.harding.edu writes:

>In article <qac3mvr@rpi.edu>, turneo@vccsouth13.its.rpi.edu (Omar Turner) writes:
>     That WOULD have been a great idea, but CHEERS is down to it's last
>ten shows, unfortunately.  CHEERS has been my all-time-favorite for years!!
>I liked Diane (Shelly Long) but I like Rebecca (Kirstie Alley) even better.
>It's hard for me to pick my favorite of the cast; I love them ALL!!!  I'm
>taping these last shows because I know they're going to be hilarious and
>wonderful!
>     Any other faithful CHEERS fans out there? I'd love to hear from ya!
>                                     New Poster
>                                     Alana

Absolutely.  Character-wise, I think Diane was much more enjoyable than
Rebecca.  She was more fleshed out and believable.  When Rebecca came on,
the characters became more like caricatures, and I missed the chemistry of
Sam and Diane.  In particular, Sam seemed to lose any kind of complexity
whatsoever after Diane left.

However, at about the same time the writing really started picking up.  I
believe they got more writers to work on the show, and the number of hilarious
one-liners and witty rapport picked up.  Cliff, Woody, and Norm started
becoming much more funny.  So while I long for the sweetness of the Diane
years, the most intensely funny shows came after.

IMO... of course.
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From: aa811@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Dr.Ruth--where that list of synonyms *really* came from
Date: 23 Jan 1993 04:41:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Robin.  What a whacky kid.
Sarcasm..
Terri in Cleveland
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From: jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley)
Subject: Re: QL: Highlights of Don's talk
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:24:09 GMT

In article <1k0pugINNc87@mozz.unh.edu> mre@kepler.unh.edu (Monty Python's Life of MikE) writes:

>>- The animated episode has been pushed back to next year (although
>>they already have the script written). Other than being animated,
>>it'll be a regular QL ep -- with no comments in the ep about it being
>>animated.
>Does this mean it will be ENTIRELY animated?  (Even the future scenes?)

Sam: "Oh boy!  I'm Goofy!"  (And I just *couldn't* resist! :) )

>>- There may be "QL: The Movie" someday, but probably not till after
>>the show's been off the air for 5 years or so.
>Good idea.

Mah goodness!  Just imagine.  A *real* budget!  *More* than a week
to shoot!  *Special* effects!

Five years later?  Bbbooooooooooo!!!!

  -Jenni

"Theorizing that one could travel through Boston on the MBTA,
Dr. Sam Beckett stepped onto the Green Line...and vanished!
Trapped on the `T', Dr. Beckett finds himself leaping from
station to station, using `T' Passes that are not his own...
His only companion is Al, a `B' line car that only Sam can
see and ride..."
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From: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.video.cable-tv
Subject: Re: Can't remember 80's TV show (Jeffrey Tambor)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 04:03:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



>>>In the early to mid 1980s, there was a show on (between 8:00 and 10:00)
>>>featuring an actor that played a blind man who was either a lawyer or a
>>>professor (I can't remember which).  I do not remember the actor's name,
>>>but I do recall him being bald and having a beard. 

The career of Jeffrey Tambor:

1992		Hank Kingsley		Larry Sanders Show
1990		Joe Baines		American Dreamer
1989		Lionel Goodman		Studio 5-B
1987		Murray			Max Headroom
1986		Prof. Paul Stark	Mr. Sunshine
1982		Franklin Hart		9 to 5
1981					Pals (pilot, never shown)
1979-1980	Jeffrey P. Brookes III  The Ropers
Occasional	Judge Alan Wachtel	Hill Street Blues


Interestingly, as talented as he obviously is, he has yet to have a hit
show.  I think with the Larry Sanders Show, all that's about to change.
From: jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Havenhurst (Class of '96)
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:57:29 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility

In article <1993Jan28.020529.9265@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.174943.19878@husc3.harvard.edu> spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel) writes:
>>OK, now that we've established that the campus scenes were filmed at 
>>U. of Toronto,

That campus must be really beautiful.

>>I've got a related question to be answered:
>>Where, within the context of the show, is Havenhurst supposed to be?
>>Was its location ever mentioned? (Presumably somewhere in North America!)
>>It doesn't appear to be California, though most of the young women on the
>>show have Southern California accents (hardly avoidable).

Well, I guess that's how it is since many of the scenes were filmed at
yUCk-LAh, I mean UCLA in Southern California. Familiar buildings include
Royce Hall, Powell Library, and Murphy Hall. I heard that some scenes were
filmed at the University of Southern California (USC). I am not too sure
about that because I haven't seen any familiar buildings.

>It's supposed to be an Ivy, so it must be in the Northeast.  It's in
>the middle of nowhere, so it must be Dartmouth.

Accoring to the Los Angeles Times, it is a small, private college in the 
Northeast. A far cry from California. I don't know about the "Ivy"
distinction, though.

Just my 8% of a quarter's worth--
Joe Hernandez
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