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From: hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu (Hani W. Akhras)
Subject: Basic,Cheap MIDI Keyboard wanted
Followup-To: comp.music
Organization: Johns Hopkins University 
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:02:37 GMT

I just recently bought Practica Musica for the Mac to teach myself some
basic music theory. The program supports MIDI so I would like to take
advantage of that. Besides, its a lot better to learn scales by actually
playing them then to to click on a screen keyboard. If anyone has any
suggestions for a new or used keyboard that supports MIDI, I would greatly
appreciate it. I don't need anything fancy. I want a very basic keyboard.

Thanks 

____________________
hani w akhras
hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu
From: hcorbin@uswnvg.com (Harold Corbin)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Problems with KORG 01/W sysex
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:32:11 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I'm hoping someone out there might have come across a problem similar to mine
and can lend a helping hand.  I have my KORG 01/W connected to my PC (a 486sx
25 mhz Gateway 2000 with 4mb RAM and 170mb HDD) which is running Cakewalk Pro
for windows.

My problem is this.... Whenever I send a sysex dump to my keyboard, I get an
error message on the KORG "ERROR: System Exclusive".  I'm dumping sequence
data containing all programs and velocity,pan, etc...data.  KORG thought it 
might be my operating system, and I upgraded the ROM ship from version #21 to
#38, but the problem still exists.

I can play songs, and the computer and keyboard seem to be communicating just
fine until I try sending a sysex dump to the keyboard.

Any ideas?  Please post to comp.music.  Thanks!
From: rcrane@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Robert Crane - OTHER)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcrds,comp.music
Subject: Newbie needs advise to help him start composing with his GUS.
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:13:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Dec22.081329.9574
Organization: Washington State University
Originator: rcrane@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu

I have a Gravis Ultrasound and I would like
to start composing and playing music with it.
I am a completely ignorant as to what equipment
or software that I will need.  I suppose
that I would need a MIDI keyboard but I have
no idea about what type I should get.
What do you need the keyboard to do that the GUS cannot do?
I would be extremely grateful for any advise
or directions to FAQs existing out there that could help me.
Thanks for your patience.
-- 
-bob crane
rcrane@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
"Ah Limbo!"
From: grahame@skyfox
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: WANTED: Prophet VS
Date: 4 JAN 93 01:12:57 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca

Dear All,

        I'm hunting for a Prophet VS synth is good condition. Willing
to pay a reasonable price & half shipping.

Thanks,

James Grahame

Grahame@Sask.Usask.CA
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: Hugo_Jackson@mindlink.bc.ca (Hugo Jackson)
Subject: BUT WAIT! There's More (MIDI & PB100)
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:53:43 GMT

Okay, if I understand it correctly, there is nothing wrong with using my
opcode midi-translator with my powerbook 100.

Fine idea, cept it isn't working. I've turned off appletalk. Still nothing.
These are the symptoms:

1. I am using Finale
2. When I launch Finale, the screen continually flickers (and even though the
power book is plugged in) the da i have for showing me the state of the power
says I'm not plugged in that the battery is running low etc etc.
3. When I attempt to send a file to my Yamaha PSR 400, Finale responds by
telling me that the MIDI interface is not working.

Okay, you say, "PB 100 and OPCODE MIDI Translator" work fine. What software
do they work fine with, and WHAT is the "MIDI manager" and how do I get it
and is it designed to work with Finale. Or should I buy something like
Opcode's EZ Vision to run my PSR 400?

I mean, I like Finale, but I would like the portablility of being able to
take the PSR with me and the PB 100, so if there is some cheaper sequencing
software around that is known to work then I could buy that and use the MIDI
files I created with Finale to take with me on the road.

Is this making any sense.

Thanks for listening again.


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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: Hugo_Jackson@mindlink.bc.ca (Hugo Jackson)
Subject: MIDI Interface & Powerbook 100
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:21:51 GMT

Well, here's the problem, my Mac Powerbook 100 won't drive my opcode systems
inc. midi translator.

Has anyone used a powerbook 100 to drive a midi translator, and if so, which
one was it.

Thanks for listening.


--
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  *   |                "you can't get there from here"                 |
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Subject: Re: MIDI Interface & Powerbook 100
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:29:12 +0000

>OMS I'll admit to not knowing myself,
>though; early on when working w/ Mac systems, I got hold of an editor/lib
>for the PROteus1 made by Opcode, and it was perhaps one of the most 
>ill-behaved things I had at the time. Once-bitten, twice-shy.

Opcode's stuff used to be rather shitty, but they do have their act
together now, and Doug Wyatt's efforts with OMS are to be admired; it's a
very elegant, solid and impressive piece of work, and Doug is very helpful.
I'm currently trying to get OMS and the MTP-II to work together, and Doug
is sending me alpha-release drivers for it.

                      Nick Rothwell  |  "Say, how many contemporary dancers
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |     are there in this bar?"
        cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |  "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens
        cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |     and divide by two..."
From: Novrain (Axl Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Quest for some music
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:27:32 GMT
Reply-To: Novrain
Organization: DSAC-RSB

Hello all,

I am looking for an anonymous ftp site for songs that can be played through
a pc's speaker.  These are just executable files that replace the good ole
radio.  I have no adlib, or any of those sound boards, so please don't direct
me toward software for that stuff.  

I used to have a couple of Journey songs, but lost them once when I had pc
trouble.  That is the type of thing I'm looking for.

Thanks alot,
bill
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: How to play SoundBlaster MID files in Windows?
Date: 25 Dec 92 02:14:46 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, Paris, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

chan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Vi Chi Chan) writes:
: 
: Also, How can I tell what version my SB is? I saw people discuss about
: version 1.0 , 1.5 etc. How can I know about my SB?
: 

It is written on the box you purchased the card in...
-- 
Adam Mirowski,  mir@chorus.fr (FRANCE),  tel. +33 (1) 30-64-82-00 or 74
Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
From: pan@pannet.UUCP (The PAN Network)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: RE: PC software : Query 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 03:18:27 EDT
Organization: The PAN Network
Reply-To: midigod@pan.com



There are SCADS of packages available for sequencing, scoring, recording,
editing, you name it, all for the PC. There are so many, I'm not going to
attempt to list them here. You should be talking to your local music store (
probably synthesizer store, not piano), or E-mail me back and I'll give you my
phone number. MIDIGOD


Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jimk@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JIM KISH)
Subject: Want info on MIDI recorder software for PC & Yamaha psr500
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Dec 1992 16:09 EST  

I have a Yamaha PSR500F hooked thru a Sound Blaster MIDI in a
386 PC. I know this is entry level stuff, but it gives me a start
before investing in more expensive equipment. I have been using
Voyetra SP Gold sequencer, which includes a midi analyzer that can
be used for Midi Syst Exclusive dumps & transmits.. Problem is the
buffer size is limited to 32K and this is not big enough to handle
the psr500 bulk page dumps, which I would like to do.

Does anyone know of good Dos/Windows software which can handle larger
dumps/restores/file saves, etc.? How about WinJammer and if so, how
can I get copy?.. also interested in C or other sofware routines to
access SB midi port? .... Thanks for any response!

---------------------------------------------------------------
James A. Kish                    jimk@lims.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA-LeRC  MS 301-2              nasamail: jkish
Cleveland, OH 44135
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: pan@pannet.UUCP (The PAN Network)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: RE: Hard disk recording for PCs 
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 00:29:30 EDT
Organization: The PAN Network
Reply-To: midigod@pan.com



The Microsound system is available either as a whole unit, or as an add-on for
your existing PC. You must have AT LEAST a 386-25, and they recommend a 386-33.
You'd better have a BIG hard drive (at least 500 meg) to be able to use this to
the fullest extent. The bigger your drive, the better. Anyway, the full rig, in
its basic version (unbalanced I/O, 500M drive) is $7800. The large rig (Balanced
I/O, 1000M drive) is $9400. If you have everything, they'll sell you the
interface board and software for as little as $3700, somewhat more for digital,
more for 4 channels. Assuming you don't get the 4-channel version, you have
exactly two outputs, and all your other tracks are mixed together in the
computer, which is why they're called virtual tracks. You can mix together any
38 stereo tracks from up to 1800 that you have stored. Or, you can just work
with 1 stereo track, cutting and pasting like SoundTools for the Mac. It's a
very versatile system, and the guys at MicroSound will also sell you huge hard
drives (up to four Gigabytes), rack cases, extra manuals for evaluation before
you buy, digital I/O upgrades, all kinds of stuff. Is this what you were looking
for, or did you need something cheaper? What will you be doing with it?
From: fritz@gems.vcu.edu (J. E. Fritz)
Newsgroups: comp.specification
Subject: Re: Theoretical limitations of algebraic specifications?
Date: 3 Jan 93 12:54:52 -0400
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University

In article <36.UUL1.3#8618@softrue.UUCP>, kearns@softrue.UUCP (Steven Kearns)
writes:
>> I have been struggling with an algebraic spec for a couple of days and
>> ...
>> More specifically, I am trying to specify a tree that has the notion of
>> a "current node", and operations to change the current node.  The ....
>> Jeff Offutt
>> Department of ISSE, George Mason University, Fairfax VA
>> email: ofut@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
>> phone: (703) 993-1654 (messages: 993-1640)
[...]
> 
> It has been shown that Majester's stack (sp?), which is a stack with 
> a pointer to an arbitrary element (if memory serves), requires an infinite
> set of algebraic axioms to specify.  

Only if you disallow auxiliary functions (functions not intended to be
implemented).

> The practical point is that algebraic specs are very poor at
> describing objects with state.  If you want to describe such an
> object, use a model based spec language (such as Z).

Could you give us a short example, say of the extended stack you mention
above?

> -steve
> 
> ********************************************************
> * Steven Kearns            ....uunet!softrue!kearns    *
> * Software Truth           softrue!kearns@uunet.uu.net *
> ********************************************************

Antediluvian newsbreak:           |  J. E. Fritz    (fritz@ruby.vcu.edu)
  Scientists discover 4th prime;  |  VCU and I don't talk _to_ each other,
  proof at eleven.                |  let alone for each other.
From: nancy@murphy.ICS.UCI.EDU (Nancy Leveson)
Subject: Re: ACM SIGSOFT '93: Foundations of Software Engineering (CFP)
In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 21 Dec 92 14:26:01 +0000.
             <EMERY.92Dec21092601@dr_no.mitre.org>
Newsgroups: comp.specification
Reply-To: nancy@ics.uci.edu
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:57:56 GMT


	 It's interesting noting the professional affiliations of the people
	 organizing this conference:

	 	University:  12
	 	Government: 1
	 	Industrial Research:  2

Exactly what was intended -- it was done on purpose.

	 It bothers me that there are not more people from industry involved
	 with this conference, particularly since the goal is to "help
	 establish software engineering as a viable engineering discipline."
	 After all, practicing software engineers are mostly in industrial
	 settings.

Note the title of the conference:  "Foundations of Software Engineering"
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^
The reason for starting this conference is to provide a forum for
*researchers* to present and discuss software engineering research results.
ICSE used to provide that forum, but researchers are increasingly unwilling
to submit their papers.  I've been on ICSE program committees where industry
members argued that no paper should be accepted that was not about something
immediately useful and relevant to them, and the papers were rejected.
Researchers are increasingly submitting their papers to conferences and
workshops on specialized topics, which limits the amount of crosstalk
across subfields.

I presented a keynote talk/paper at ICSE in May entitled "High-Pressure
Steam Engines and Computer Software" in which I argued that we need to
establish our scientific foundations, and I was also involved in advocating
the startup of FSE.  To make software engineering into a viable engineering
discipline, we need to build a scientific base and use scientific methods
in our research.  I'm not really sure that this conference will fly since
there are not a lot of people even doing such foundational research -- it
has not been encouraged or such researchers are not willing to say they are
in software engineering anymore.  There is spreading feeling in universities
that software engineering has no hard content, and doctoral students are
being encouraged to work in other areas.   Literally dozens of conferences
exist to provide information for practicing software engineers; let the
researchers have one conference where they do not have to justify the
immediate practicality and applicability of what they are doing.

Nancy Leveson

P.S.  If anyone would like a latex (or dvi) version of my keynote
address, you can get it by anonymous ftp from ics.uci.edu -- it is
in the subdirectory pub/tcas.  The paper has been submitted to CACM
for publication; I would appreciate feedback if you do read it.

Newsgroups: comp.specification
From: ofut@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (A. Jeff Offutt)
Subject: Theoretical limitations of algebraic specifications?
Keywords: Specification,Algebraic
Organization: ISSE Department, George Mason University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:04:39 GMT

I have been struggling with an algebraic spec for a couple of days and
am beginning to wonder if I am trying to do something that is
impossible.  Intuitively, the feeling is similar to that of trying to
describe a context free language using regular expressions.

Generally, are there _known_ fundamental limitations of algebraic
specifications?  Has anyone studied the "classes" of ADTs that can be
specified using various specification approaches?  If so, I would
appreciate a reference (or a short synopsis, if possible).

More specifically, I am trying to specify a tree that has the notion of
a "current node", and operations to change the current node.  The
current node is a headache, mainly because I have different kinds of
constructors -- some that modify the tree structure (adding/deleting
nodes) and others that modify the current node.  My real problem,
though, is with an operation that changes the current node to the
root.

Does anyone konw offhand if that is possible ... and if it is, how?

If you are interested and can offer more help, we can talk via email
about the specifics of the data structure I am working with.
-- 
Jeff Offutt
Department of ISSE, George Mason University, Fairfax VA
email: ofut@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
phone: (703) 993-1654 (messages: 993-1640)
From: Jim.Davies@comlab.ox.ac.uk (A Wooden Fish on Wheels)
Newsgroups: comp.specification.z
Subject: Re: Jacket+Tie for attending the Z Used Group AGM (was: Z User Group AG
Date: 1 Jan 93 17:10:11 GMT
	<1992Dec23.173641.1599@fmg.bt.co.uk> <BzrH2H.6L@cs.bham.ac.uk>
Organization: Foundations for the Laboratory of Computer Science, Oxford
In-reply-to: ard@cs.bham.ac.uk's message of 24 Dec 92 11:25:28 GMT


In article <BzrH2H.6L@cs.bham.ac.uk> ard@cs.bham.ac.uk (Antoni Diller) writes:

   ( following up:

     lots of stuff involving some old-fashioned dull male-oriented 
     club which should have been closed down years ago or at least
     made into something a little less pointless, like a hostel for
     the homeless, a creche, or a shopping mall 

   )

   I really can't see the point of getting ANGRY at something like this.
   I think that women should be allowed to be members in exactly the same way
   as men, but getting ANGRY that they aren''t is a complete and utter
   waste of time.  ANGER is a self-defeating emotion and if you feel
   ANGRY you won't be most effective in altering the situation.  Negative
   emotions like ANGER impair your ability to solve problems or act
   efficiently or effectively or think rationally.  So let's get rid
   of all this pointless ANGER.

   Antoni Diller


Okay, thanks Antoni... and over to the rest of the newsgroup... anyone out
there like to suggest ways of releasing our ANGER?  any useful tips for
GETTING RID of this negative, pointless, self-defeating EMOTION?

Personally, I find that flinging copies of "Z, AN INTRODUCTION TO FORMAL
METHODS" across the room does the trick.  :)

lots of love

Jim

--
From: ard@cs.bham.ac.uk (Antoni Diller)
Newsgroups: comp.specification.z
Subject: Re: Jacket+Tie for attending the Z Used Group AGM (was: Z User Group AG
Date: 24 Dec 92 11:25:28 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

In article <1992Dec23.173641.1599@fmg.bt.co.uk> ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) writes:
>In article <"swan.cl.ca.438:18.11.92.14.10.47"@cl.cam.ac.uk> Michael.Hinchey@computer-lab.cambridge.ac.uk (Michael Hinchey) writes:
>
>>  rosalind@logcam.co.uk (Rosalind Barden) writes :
>
>> |When Mike states that 'lots of "ladies" attended the dinner', this is
>> |not quite accurate.
>
>> Sorry, "lots" was perhaps an exaggeration, but I was pleased that quite
>> a number of ladies did attend.
>
>> |There were few women at the conference and all those that I spoke to were
>> |angry that women can still be treated this way.
>
>> It was not only the ladies who were angry; I thin the vast majority of
>> the gentlemen at the conference felt this way too.  
>

I really can't see the point of getting ANGRY at something like this.
I think that women should be allowed to be members in exactly the same way
as men, but getting ANGRY that they aren''t is a complete and utter
waste of time.  ANGER is a self-defeating emotion and if you feel
ANGRY you won't be most effective in altering the situation.  Negative
emotions like ANGER impair your ability to solve problems or act
efficiently or effectively or think rationally.  So let's get rid
of all this pointless ANGER.

Antoni Diller
Xref: sparky comp.specification.z:508 news.answers:4813
From: ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani)
Newsgroups: comp.specification.z
Subject: Re: Jacket+Tie for attending the Z Used Group AGM (was: Z User Group AG
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:36:41 GMT
Organization: British Telecom

In article <"swan.cl.ca.438:18.11.92.14.10.47"@cl.cam.ac.uk> Michael.Hinchey@computer-lab.cambridge.ac.uk (Michael Hinchey) writes:

>  rosalind@logcam.co.uk (Rosalind Barden) writes :

> |When Mike states that 'lots of "ladies" attended the dinner', this is
> |not quite accurate.

> Sorry, "lots" was perhaps an exaggeration, but I was pleased that quite
> a number of ladies did attend.

> |There were few women at the conference and all those that I spoke to were
> |angry that women can still be treated this way.

> It was not only the ladies who were angry; I thin the vast majority of
> the gentlemen at the conference felt this way too.  

It may well be -- but certainly it wasn't evident.  Darell Inc had a
lot to say about almost anything in his humorous talk, but nothing
about this common feeling of the women and "the vast majority of the
gentlemen" present.  

On a similar point: Rosalind did (rightly) object to the use of the
term "chairman" for her chairing one of the sessions.  But I didn't
see any of the men chairing raising a similar objection.  The use of
the term "chairman" is sexist no matter if the person chairing is male
or female.

-hossein
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	"I believe, therefore He is"
	"I think, therefore He isn't"
					The Guardian cartoon
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From: wallace@cookie.enet.dec.com ("Richard Wallace, Digital Equipment Corporation 01-Jan-1993 1118")
Newsgroups: comp.specification.z
Subject: Specific use questions on Z (and small editorial...)
Date: 1 Jan 93 18:18:24 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.3

Here I am, sitting on the other side of the "big pudle" where I look forward to 
reading about Z's use in academia and industry and I get my mail file jammed-up 
with lots of non-Z issues showing up.  This is, of course, in reference to the 
"Jacket and Tie" vein of articles...  I did not say this vein was unimportant, I 
just say this vein is not Z (so turn your "FLAMES" off...).

Please!  Let's get back to Z here.  There are LOTS of alt."this-n-that" news 
groups to continue this discussion of sexism, patriarchical controled society, 
et.al., ad nausium!

To start this new year in a Z way, I've got some general questions on Z's 
progress in the engineering world.

-- Can an authorative, informed source tell me what the status of Z 
standardization is?  The last I heard (July 1991) was that the project was 
called "ZIP," the focal point of the effort was John Nicholls, and that the "Z 
Base Standard" has since been adopted as a British National Standard.  Now any 
or all of this may be wrong or out of date, so corrections gladly accepted.  I 
would also like to know if the ISO has taken on a Z working group for 
standardization.  Does anyone know?  If so, who would I communicate with?

-- There was some interest in the ZED interactive and incremental environment 
from Sanjeev Dharap, K.T. Narayana (Penn. State Univ., and ORA Corp. 
respectively).  I haven't heard much in the way of comments on its use.  I would 
certainly be interested in hearing from anyone who has used this tool suite on 
either a case study or real development (i.e. the "cost-over-correctness" 
environment).

-- Has anyone heard of an effort to automate Carroll Morgans refinement calculus 
(from his book "Programming from Specifications") on Z specifications?

Please post replies to the forum.  Anything that is posted directly to me will 
be posted in the forum unless a request is made otherwise.

Thanks to all in advance!

Richard Wallace
Senior Software Engineer
Digital Equipment Corporation
301 Rockrimmon Blvd. South
CXO2-1/7A
Colorado Springs, CO 80919-2398
U.S.A.
(719)548-2792
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