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From: smithj@hpsadlu.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Tounges & Interpretation (was Re: Problems!!!!!)
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:25:57 GMT
Organization: no risk to you!

pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu (Patrick Robinson)  writes:
>metlay writes
>> I leave the translation of Mr. Robinson's eloquent speech to him, as I think
>> the power and beauty of his words would be lost on mere English speakers.
>
>Woggle biddie toecheese blippies ummy gumble.  Groober heinie 'horfie' penny
>ig tooflen chapperwhanky mup whop!  Harg!
>
>> Wishing you glub blug dip woot-boof wammie,
>
>Bunky flug, horfi.  Immer "woot-boof" fripple critz wammie.
>
>> | "Oooo... bemahmma fluk moogie flabber nerble fremlap vimmdo
>> |  "LXP-5" seegin waggy furplesmurch mibbur ig crumple bummy 
>> |  "Quadraverb" ... horf, horf, horf."
>> |                       --words to live by, from P. Robinson.
>
>Hummbie wiggie "LXP-5" ubber muggle silbo "Quadraverb" plobble crappie.
>Dillbag whopple, horfie-horf.
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I think he's broken.  Where's a Jawa when you need one?

                    Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
                 Going Up, Going Down, Going Up And Down.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: Gear Lust
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:22:34 GMT


In article <1992Apr13.131713.24058@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, aa596@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Haller) writes:
|> My point was that many users think that the lastest piece of gear
|> will solve their 'musical' deficiancies. Sounding better? Well
|> yes, my Sample playback sounds a lot better then the next guys
|> Soundblaster. Sounding better, IMHO, is not enough.

I understand your point, but I still don't believe that most of us are
that naive.  We may try to get around our musical deficiencies by using
technology and trickery, but we don't think of it as a solution, just
as a way to get the job done.

I could be wrong, and if any of you really think that way, shame on you!

--
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."Nobody believes a laughing person." -- Farkle
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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Subject: Re: Raise yours hands if ...
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:42:42 GMT

I'd like to raise my hand and ask if someone could re-post the details
of !!! THE WAVE !!! because I missed it.

Thanks scott.


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From: billw@utkux1.utk.edu (William P. White)
Subject: EML 101
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:48:54 GMT

Thanks to all of the people who helped me out with a EML 101
purchase.  I found one in my hometown for 300.00.  All of the
replies ranged from 300.00 to 1350.00.  Quite a difference Huh?
I think the 1350.00 quote was a little out of hand.
Gold digger!

Thanks again.     Bill White     billw@utkux1.utk.edu
From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Trepidkeit (was Re: Arsinio and Korg)
Summary: Ads for gear
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:59:20 GMT
Organization: Atomic City

In article <1680212@hpsadlu.sad.hp.com> smithj@hpsadlu.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith) writes:

>I've always felt that the tolerance for blatant advertising on purchased
>goods such as cars and musical equipment is one of the more obnoxious aspects
>of our capitalist society.  We PAY for this stuff, and I don't particularly
>feel indebted to the manufacturers to run their ads for them. 

I've often wondered about that myself. Until recently, MY performing rig
facing the audience would have said either "Sequential, Oberheim, Sequential"
or "Sequential, Oberheim, Oberheim." Not what one usually sees these days. 
|->

BTW, the keyboardist for Sparks was NAMED Ronald. Which explains a lot.

When I was fooling around in early grad school, I had a Roland Axis
keyboard controller. I Xeroxed the logos from owner's manuals for 
Moog, Korg, and Roland gear, pasted it all together, and put it on
the side of my axis facing the audience. 

It read "gRonK".

--
metlay    | "Muppapa gninng vun gddang K2000 wer "Harris-burp" gergrunt.
@minerva. | Muppapa de wonna donga vor Alesis S5 wer "Hrrrrr-moble-eeeble" 
phyast.   | gergrunt."                                     -- Nick Rothwell
pitt.edu  | "Harg!  Glub Blug dip woot-boof wammie!"    -- Patrick Robinson
From: rbrown@fammed.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: adlib
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:29:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UW-Dept of Family Medicine

I have a question. We have encountered some midi files with the ROL extension,
I think they might be ADLIB files. Is there anyway to convert these files to
standard midi files without the ADLIB software? Also, am I correct in the
assumption that these are ADLIB files? If only ADLIB can deal with these, does
anyone know the price of ADLIB and which platform will it work on (DOS, MAC,
UNIX)? Thanks.

RLB
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Kwai PH50, $200, is this a good deal?  Help intro MIDI person...
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA  90041
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:54:53 GMT

Hi, I posted a message before, I don't know if it got through, no one
responded...

I've reserved a Kwai PH50 for $200, but I want to know if I'm getting a
good deal, get some advice on it... I need a MIDI keyboard to hook into
my buddy's A500 to do some introductory jamming on.

I get the impression from reading through the net that better deals are
to be had, if so, someone should e-mail me... I've got $250 set aside for
this, but I'm not going to spend it until I know what I'm doing.

Thanx,

Respond to leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu

Thom
From: bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Wind Controllers/Synth Combos
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:20:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

In article <1992Apr3.181704.20750@news.Hawaii.Edu> mike@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mike W. Burger) writes:
>
>	I am on a quest for the ultimate synthesizer for use with
>a wind controller for the purpose of making "real instrument" sounds.

...If such a unit knows enough about breath controller
>messages, it could do a lot not only to modify the volume in real
>time, but control the timbre so that louder is sharper or brighter
>or blattier etc.

This is a pretty standard thing--even the grubby little analog synth
that my EWI uses can do this (though not directly via MIDI).

>	Has anyone ever managed to program a six operator FM simulation
>of a "real" instrument?   The sounds in the TG77 put in by the Yamaha
>"professionals"  were a shocking disappointment. 

When the WX-7 was released, they also made available one of those
flexible records with some demos of FM (6-op, I think) wind patches.
A few of them were reasonably convincing; some were not.  There is also
a book available, "Expressive FM Applications (?)" by Sal Galina, that 
talks about using FM with wind controllers, and the example patches in
the book were available from Yamaha.  Since you already have the tx-81z,
you might want to get some of these patches and study them; 

>	Any information from people using wind controllers successfully
>with synthesizers would be appreciated.

I've been using an Akai EWI 3000 with a Korg Wavestation A/D.  The combination
works well;  the Korg patches are quite easy to modify for wind control, as
there are instructions in the manual on how to do so.  The Wavestation is
probably not a good choice if you want to do strictly imitative synthesis, but
it's a pretty powerful box.  And by now there may be PCM cards for it that
contain "real" instruments--I haven't checked.

Also--buried at home somewhere I have some notes from my brother, who's using an
Akai EVI with several cheap tone modules, and from another guy who has done
some programming for Mike Brecker.  If you're interested, I'll try to see
if I can find them and summarize.

brian good
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:22:58 PDT
From:         James Hedberg <hedberg@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS (fwd)
Comments: To: "synthesizer information list" <Synth-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>

Forwarded message:

From ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Wed Apr 15 14:36:34 1992
Message-Id: <9204152133.AA06686@fourier.inference.com>
Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:30:42 PDT
Reply-To: Discussions on all forms of Music <ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
From: The Lion of Symmetry <John.McCartney@EBAY.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re:  CD COSTS
X-To:         ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
To: Multiple recipients of list ALLMUSIC <ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>

Here's a followup -

I have a catalog from an outfit called AVL Disc Makers, out of
Philadelphia, New York, and Puerto Rico. It's last year's catalog,
so prices are probably a bit different, but I wouldn't expect a
big difference.


Here's some sample costs:   (order quantity of 1000 unless otherwise noted)

Studio Series - $2.99 each, $2990 total  -  initial order
                $2.09 each, $2090 total  -  reorder

                full color 1 panel insert (front only), 1 color tray card,
                typesetting & color separations, jewel box & blister pack.
                Add $95 for 1 color printing on back of insert.

Professional Series - $3.29 each, $3290 total  -  initial order
                      $2.09 each, $2090 total  -  reorder

                full color deluxe 1 panel insert with dropouts & tints
                (front only), 2 color deluxe tray card, deluxe typesetting
                & color separations, jewel box & blister pack.
                Add $95/panel for 1 color printing on back of insert.

Deluxe Series - $3.29 each, $3290 total  -  initial order
                      $2.09 each, $2090 total  -  reorder

                full color deluxe 4 page insert with dropouts & tints (outside
                only), deluxe 2 color tray card, deluxe typesetting & color
                separations, jewel box & blister pack.
                Add $95/panel for 1 color printing on inside of folder.


Lots of options are available; 1-8 page folders, 8-28 page booklets, printed
longboxes, custom printing on the CD, etc.

They also do cassettes, *vinyl*, and video. Accessory stuff as well (packaging,
mailers, posters, logos.

If anyone wants to check them out, get a catalog, etc - call 800-468-9353
(215-232-4140 in PA)



scorch


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From: sv@hsv3.uucp (Steve Verity)
Subject: Usenet 91: please send me the liner notes
Organization: Video-7 /Headland Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:49:36 GMT



Would somebody please send me a copy of the 91 Usenet liner notes?  Please...
Don`t worry about me getting more than one copy... Do it now, hit that r key...
right now ...lets go ..hurry hurry hurry...   :-) :-) :-) :-).....



And I'll send you back my undying gratitude...

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From: smithj@hpsadlu.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:39:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Trepidkeit (was Re: Arsinio and Korg)
Organization: no risk to you!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones)  writes:
>
>So much for Artistic Integrity and giving the fans an idea what
>kind of equipment the Artist really uses.  Athletes do
>endorsements too, but at least they use the @#$@#! shoes and
>other equipment.  Michael Jordan may lie about his choice of
>breakfast cereal but he does play in Nike basketball shoes.  The
>comment in KEYBOARD that Parodi would rather use a D-50 for a
>controller, but uses an M1 and a D-550 (offstage) because Roland
>wouldn't give her a D-50 really turned my stomach.

I've always felt that the tolerance for blatant advertising on purchased
goods such as cars and musical equipment is one of the more obnoxious aspects
of our capitalist society.  We PAY for this stuff, and I don't particularly
feel indebted to the manufacturers to run their ads for them.  I thought the
keyboardist for Sparks in the seventies did a clever thing when he transposed
the letters on his synth so it said "Ronald."  Just because "everybody does
it" doesn't make it right.  I think it makes sense that, if you're in a high-
visibility position like a TV show band you might not want people to see a
plug for your gear every time they see you, and that it might be worth some
compensation for tolerating this distraction.  Given the price of advertising
time on television, contributing gear to the artist (at the manufacturer's
factory cost, BTW) seems like paltry compensation.
  Now, whether you actually want to accept money for endorsements is another
matter, but if I were in a high-visibility position, I'd be likely to take
Paul Shaffer's approach and hide my gear behind set pieces, with nary a 
trademark in sight.

  Unless I needed the money!  :->

                    Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
                 Going Up, Going Down, Going Up And Down.
From: dlee@ocf.berkeley.edu (Derek Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: HR-16 for sale
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:56:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.s2b27INN3nn
Distribution: ba
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: avalanche.berkeley.edu


  I have an HR-16 digital drum machine for sale...   It is in very good
  condition and has never let me down.  I would like to sell it by mid-May
  so please make an offer..   Thanks,
				     Derek Lee  (dlee@ocf.berkeley.edu)
From: pixel@cbnewse.cb.att.com (william.j.sequeira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Looking for a MIDI Brain for Drum Pads...
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:31:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


I am in need of a MIDI Brain that will take input from a drum pad and
translate that to a MIDI note event.  It must have at least 10 such
inputs.  I know the Alesis D4 has this property plus 12 inputs, but
it sells around the $300 range and I am looking for a more reasonable
alternative, since I do not want to duplicate the functionality already
provided by my R8.

Anybody with one they would like to sell? 


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From: bohdan.kiszczuk@rose.uucp (bohdan kiszczuk)
Subject: Cadenza for Windows
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:32:11 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.2)


Date Entered: 04-11-92 23:43

S > From: siffert@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Thunder-Thumbs)
S > Subject: Cadenza for Windows
 
S > I want to buy Cadenza for Windows, and the price I've seen around
S > here is for $300.  Does anyone know where I can get it for cheaper,
S > or does anyone know of a better sequencing program for the IBM
S > (comparable to the best Mac programs)?  And could you also quote
S > the price for me, if known?
S > 
S > Finally, I have heard that one can get a demo for cadenza somewhere
S > on ftp, does anyone know where?  Thanks.
S > 

           I would wait for Cakewalk Pro for Windows. It will be 
shipping in mid May with a suggested retail of $350. The street price 
should be < $300. A long time user of Cakewalk, I would expect the 
Windows version to be first rate. I've tried a demo of Cadenza for 
Windows and was not impressed(IMHU). I will be definetely be upgrading
to the Windows version of Cakewalk. You will need Windows 3.1 since 
Cakewalk will not run under 3.0.
           Cubase will also be available soon for the PC. I have never
 seen the Mac version so cannot comment on this product.


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From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Subject: Re: Kawai line mixer (8 stereo ins????)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:39:51 GMT


In article <31632@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, ln63sdm@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Em 2 da cee) writes...
>Could someone fill me in on the details regarding the Kawai line mixer that
>has 8 stereo ins(I am not sure though...).

That's the MX8-SR if you are talking about the 2U rackmount.

I have one.  Love it.  Per channel you get one volume slider, one pan/balance
control, and two sends.  One send is mono, the other stereo.  Both returns are
stereo.  No return level controls.  Master volume sliders for each channel,
master volume LED bars.  

Quiet.  Clean.  Musical-sounding.  I want another one.


Eirikur Hallgrimsson   | "Hey, what *is* that thing?  It looks like a telephone
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |  switchboard trying to mate with a Hammond organ!"
PATHWORKS for Macintosh|
From: Aron_Fingers_Nelson@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: ProCussion or D4?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:20:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <65137@apple.Apple.COM> <57267@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Apr14.225614.29734@uunet.uu.net>

>How do the D4 kits relate to note numbers?  

The D4 kits allow you to pick from ~500 sounds and map them to 61
MIDI note numbers.  The arrangement of these 61 keys are called a "kit",
You can have 21 kits in the D4 and they switchable via MIDI program changes.
Quite cool and VERY easy to use.

Aron_Nelson@cup.portal.com
From: campo@calspan.com (Jim Campobello)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Gear Lust
Summary: How do you find the time?
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:45:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: calspan.campo.703363502
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center


   I hope I'm not pounding this gear lust thing to death...

   I have to confess that my abandonment of gear lust did not derive from
   purely musical motives.  I think it crept up gradually over a period of
   months.  However it really hit me when I got stuck working out problems
   with two new products. (One was a synth and one software; the specifics
   are irrelevant.)

   One week I went to my "music room" (yeah, it's great; I've taken over
   a whole room) to play, compose, record for a few hours, five days in
   a row.  At the end of the time, it hit me that I had spent about 5 hours
   doing music and 12 hours trying to solve technical problems.  I was
   really bummed out -- I just don't have enough free time to spend it 
   playing technician.  That was when I decided that I'm not going to
   even consider anything new.

   Having reached that conclusion for reasons of technical frustration, it
   hit me right away that it's the best thing for musical reasons as well.
   (At least for me, for right now.)   Maybe I wouldn't have come to that 
   point if all the gear worked perfectly, with good manuals and simple user
   interfaces.  But let's get real.  Having come to that point maybe for the
   wrong reason, now I'm glad that I'm there.

   How the heck do the "big guns" on this net find the time to spend on
   the technology and the music?  How much time do you usually put in?
   What percentage is mostly technology-related and what mostly music?
   Inquiring minds (with busy lives) want to know...

                                  Jim Campobello
                                  campo@calspan.com
From: s35130w@kaira.hut.fi (Tom Mikael Ahola)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sample Dumping
Keywords: Exclusive MIDI, Sample Dumps, Sample Editing, Sound Synthesis
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:14:55 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

Hi All!

I'm planning to do a sample editing program. The program would
make looping easy and permit filtering and adding effects to the
sampled sound. I plan also to include some synthesis methods
(FM, PM, granular, additive, subtractive..) so that one can mix
together sampled sounds, FM-sounds and analog-like sounds to
create just about any sound.

There is one problem however - I can't get my samples transferred
between my computer and my sampler. I've tried the universal MIDI
sample dump request

    (F0 7E <channel> 03 <patch# low> <patch# high> F7),

but nobody is home. My sampler is an Akai S950. I have ordered
the exclusive MIDI specifications to the thing two times now, but
i don't seem to get anything from there either. I even left my
computer on over the night sending all possible codes

    (F0 47 00 xx yy zz F7)

to the S950 and checking for any response - no luck. I'm getting
DesPeRaTE. However, I don't want to disassemble the ROM just yet.

So if anybody has the MIDI Exclusive specification for the Akai S950,
PLEASE could you E-mail me the essential codes for sample dumps.
Any suggestions to crack the sample dump code are most welcome too.
I've heard there is a book on the subject (exclusive MIDI). Is the
S950 codes listed there? I will share my programs with you if i get
the thing working.

Thank you for any response!

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From: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: ProCussion or D4?
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:09:20 GMT
Reply-To: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

In article <1992Apr16.130641.9225@uunet.uu.net> kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones) writes:
>
>Ah joy, more fun terminology. :) I assume that if a zone contains
>three note numbers and you hit the pad or trigger to which the
>zone is assigned, you get the sounds associated with all three of
>the note numbers?

Only 1 stack per zone. A stack can have up to 4 layers. Each layer is a
sample with numerous parameters. In the simple case of a stack made up of 
1 layer, assigned to a zone that covers 4 notes, you can have different 
pitches of the sound for each note. Or different pan positions. Or 1 pitch
(good for doing snare rolls on 2 adjacent keys)

>
>WIth the Procussion can you assign a specific MIDI channel to a
>sound along with a note number.  I could have my one big kit this

No.

The power of the Procussion is not in having n different sounds
that you can access on a single midi channel, but in the dynamic and
timbral quality of the sounds you do have.