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From: Patricia.Bregman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Patricia Bregman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Health care and jobs
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:28:29 GMT
Reply-To: Patricia.Bregman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL

Index Number: 24389

        Another sign in California that the "cost" of a national health
        insurance system may be less than the "cost" of the current
        system.  GM announced today that they are closing a 45-year old
        plant in Van Nuys, employing 2500 people, because it is more
        efficient and cost effective to move the manufacturing to its
        plant in Quebec.

        Despite the fact that Canadian wages tend to be somewhat higher
        than the US, and taxes may be somewhat higher, one of the
        reasons that the Canadian plants are able to be competitive is
        the fact that the company does not have to pay health insurance
        premiums for the employees.  This was cited by the GM executives
        as a significant factor in the move.  This was also apparently a
        factor in the decision to keep two other Ontario GM plants open
        while closing others.

        In addition, GM announced that they would not longer pay health
        insurance premiums for its employees, other than those protected
        by a collective agreement.

        In 1991 when it was making decisions about its plants, the
        company did a survey which showed a great disparity between the
        health care costs in different US cities. They said that health
        costs for workers in Youngstown, Ohio were twice the medical
        bills in Grand Rapids Michigan, 200 miles away.  The costs in
        Ohio added $1.00 per hour to labour costs.  GM in fact told the
        Youngstown plant that if these costs were not controlled it may
        result in the plant closing.  On average, health insurance costs
        $3100 per employee.

        According to a Fortune magazine article in July 1991,medical
        bills for US companies grew at twice the rate of inflation in
        1989. That amount, $173 billion, equalled 100% of their net
        profits.

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From: Ralf@p0.f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Ralf)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: lightning
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: Ralf@p0.f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:229/401.0 - The Connection HST!, Oshawa ON

Index Number: 24396

-=> Quoting Jude DaShiell to All <=-

 If I might just add a couple of comments, Jude?

 JD> Lightning has more power in one
 JD> stroke than all of the atomic detonations set off so far.

With respect, this is a bit inaccurate.  A lightning bolt does indeed
convert a good deal of electrical potential to current flow and,
ultimately, heat... but I think you'll find a lighting strike some
orders of magnitude down from even one modest nuke.

This won't make a deceased victim less dead or an injured person feel
better.

 JD> What I would suggest is to find a really good psychologist and a
 JD> really good acupuncture specialist.

When asked my opinion, I might say that carrot juice has done wonders to
relieve my MS symptoms, and who knows, maybe it really does, maybe I'm
the only one.  But I would not publicly urge others to begin consuming
large amounts of carrot juice, asserting that it will benefit them.
Why?  Because it is not a medically recognized, valid treatment.  (BTW
folks, this is an illustration... I really drink single malt ;-)    )

I think you'll find that there is no medical literature which shows the
efficacy of acupuncture in reversing the damage caused by severe
electrical shock; nor do I think you will find literature detailing
polarity-reversal in shock victims.

Thus, you are advocating a treatment which is at this moment not
considered, um, mainstream.  Perhaps it would be appropriate to point
this out?  Like carrot juice, it might be harmless, but it also might be
a tad injudicious to advocate its therapeutic value in a forum such as
this.

 JD> Lee Trevino the golfer was hit by lightning and I think he wrote a
 JD> book about that experience.

I think it was Lee who suggested that the best way to avoid being hit by
lightning on a golf course was to hold up a 1-iron.  Said he, "Even God
can't hit a 1-iron!".

Peace

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From: Morgan.Lefae@f6.n290.z1.fidonet.org (Morgan Lefae)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: On Signing....
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:19:16 GMT
Reply-To: Morgan.Lefae@f6.n290.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:290/6 - Karma *VS* Dogma, Des Moines IA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24130

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Ann,

Actually, the quote you attributed to me in your message was what
I'd quoted from someone else's message.

I've taken both ASL and Signed English classes and most of the deaf
people I communicate with use some sort of combination of the two,
leaning more toward ASL.

The structure and syntax of ASL is very different from English but
I find signing in English to be very cumbersome and awkward...too
many signs to stick in if the conversation is going rapidly.  But I
understand what you're saying about ASL users having low
comprehension rates for written English.  I've known some who,
based on their reading and writing would be illiterate, even though
they are highly intelligent, expressive people.

I saw a 'Deaf Bible' once.  That was very instructive for me.  I
could see how the words were patterned and it helped me with ASL.

Morgan

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From: Walter.Siren@p18.f5.n396.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Siren)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jaws with Votalker
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:08:32 GMT
Reply-To: Walter.Siren@p18.f5.n396.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:396/5.18 - Pontchippi, New Orleans LA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24215

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 GS> Hi Walter,
 GS> I am using a Votalker with Ja)s on my system at home.
 GS> Are you having a problem I may be able to help?

Only since jaws 2.2 came out.  When I type, I like to have my
keyboard echo set to echo each letter typed, and since jaws 2.2
came out, when using it with the votalker, it tends to make my
keyboard sluggish, and drags back on the speech.  It seems to do it
more at the dos prompt.

Walter

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From: Rick.Alfaro@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Alfaro)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:10:18 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Alfaro@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:369/8 - The Catwalk BBS, Davie FL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24224

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 JD> I used Screen Reader at Carleton University last year when they
 JD> were evaluating it as a possible software to use with the
 JD> Dektalk.  I did not like using the seperate keypad myself, but
 JD> there was one fellow who had been using Screen Reader for some
 JD> time, and he could certainly make this software perform.
 JD> What does all this say?
 JD> The seperate keypad may not be a hinderance at all, once you
 JD> get used to it.

Jeff,

This is true.  It all boils down to what you are used to.  Your typing
and reading habbits mold themselves around what you have at your
disposal.  In my case, I can tell you that my particular style of typing
and reviewing / checking my work would be slowed down by a seperate
keypad to deal with.

Regards,
Rick

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!

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From: Pandora.Nigh@p0.f554.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Pandora Nigh)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: welcome back
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:28:13 GMT
Reply-To: Pandora.Nigh@p0.f554.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/554.0 - Analytical Engine B, Willoughby OH

Index Number: 24388

   Hi JP, long time no type. I'm glad to be back. I'm doing alright just a lot
slower. I picked a bad time to extend my activities last year. As I took on
more my body gave up more. But I'm getting pretty much adapted again now.
  Glad to hear about the new little ones. Are they as spoiled as the other?
(You'll have to excuse me but I forgot the little one's name). I also noted
that your trailer is still working and your going to try and run it to the
ground.
  I'm still doing my tv show and won The Ohio Public Images Award for tele-
vision this year. I'm also now on the Board of Directors Portage County
Easter Seal Society, my local area society. This really keeps me rolling.
 I got them to institute a new program called Access Aids and Appliances and
so I'm kind of stuck setting up and helping out a lot with it. Basically what
the program does is offer anyone anywhere heavy discounted prices on adaptive
devices and Aids-to-Daily Living. If you've seen any of the ADL catalogs you
know what a killer the prices are. Well we convinced a supplier to sell to
Easter Seals at whole sale and we add a little to cover shipping exspense and
pass that huge saving on. Basically we can cut between 30% -70% depending on
the items in the catalogs. We have set up a tryout area at the Easter Seal
site so that local people can try out and see what works best for them. Because
we are selling the items and not giving them out we have no geographic limits
from the National Easter Seal Society on the program. I'm so happy and
enthused over this, being one that needs alot of adaptive ADLs I know how much
the savings can add up. For example a company wanted $40 for a shampoo tray, I
got lucky and was able to purchase the same item through Easter Seals for $19.75
That is a good break since the difference gave me money to buy also a plastic
bag opener, a ziplock bag closer, a tab can opener, a boxtop opener , and a
couple of spill proof cups.
   I'll post more on the program and how to get things if anyone is intrested.

  I finaly got my permobile wheelchair after a wait of 1 1/2 years thanks to
the idiot med equip. store here. It was a real nightmare. That was one of the
things that added to keeping me offline for so long. The chair is what supports
me upright and makes it possible for me to sit up for long periods of time.
With that and my new hand prothetics that should be coming soon I'll really be
able to get into the old swing again. Well I've really bent your ear on this
one so I better let you get a rest and I'll talk to you later.......

                                                      Pandora

... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.

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From: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Hess)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: post nasal drip
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:57:04 GMT
Reply-To: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24316

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a missive of <Aug 19 11:53> Allison Cozzi (1:161/3216)
writes to Alan Hess:

 AC>      Is it possible that this may be related to what you are
 AC> experiencing?

I don't think so, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to ask.  Thanks
for the tip.  *adh*

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From: Rich.Veraa@f907.n135.z1.fidonet.org (Rich Veraa)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Fried Death !!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:16:01 GMT
Reply-To: Rich.Veraa@f907.n135.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:135/907 - <Birdsoft Online, N Miami FL
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24248

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

A message from Joe Chamberlain to Curtis Oglesby was released into the bitstream 08 Aug 92  20:15.

 > CO> I try to eat "sensible" and I blow up like a basketball because I
 > CO> can't "increase the releases."  Really painful.  The quad irony.

 JC>     A study by Craig Hospital was
 JC> written up in NEW MOBILITY's summer issue
 JC> and reports that 'gastric dilation' (stomach expansion) which can life
 JC> threating.

I take a Mylanta with simethicone after each meal... but still get
balloony...

     Cheers,
        Rich

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From: Bob.Eagly@f21.n3619.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Eagly)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RSDS
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:20:13 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Eagly@f21.n3619.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3619/21 - Inner Sanctum, New Port Richey FL

Index Number: 24045

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Wayne, I have RSD in my right arm and it goes up to my right ear
and across half of my chest. I am in pain all the time, don't know
any more what it's like not to be. I have just resently got a Tens
Unit and I am one of those people that get good results from it.
With it on I can tolerate most of the pain. I also try to keep a
stiff upper lip if you know what I mean. I don't like getting
crabby, allthough at times I can not help it. I am lucky my family
is pretty understanding. Well hope this finds you in good spirits,
and will write again            BOB

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From: sspeigle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan Speigle)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: HELP!
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:19:26 GMT
Reply-To: sspeigle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan Speigle)

Index Number: 24000

Wanted!

Ideas on what kind of business my disabled husband can set up at
home with a PC.

Any suggestions or recommendations are welcome.

Anyone out there done this?  PLEASE let us know what and how you
are doing.

Thank you,

Susan Speigle
From: Howard.Dearman@f26.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Howard Dearman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Electroejaculation
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:58:41 GMT
Reply-To: Howard.Dearman@f26.n130.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:130/26 - Speedway, Fort Worth TX
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24328

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

* On Aug-17-92 Joe Chamberlain was saying these remarkable words *

JC>        The procedure requires attaching electrodes to your
JC>penis with what looks like a Band-aid.  Current passes from

The idea of hooking electrodes and supplying electrical charges to my personal
 member doesn't strike high on needability scale, especially when you have
 feeling down there.  <ouch>

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From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: BRS: INVASION OF PRIVACY
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:05:55 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24116

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 LL> All operators are covered under strict confidentiality
 LL> rules, and at least at the company I work for (Bell
 LL> Atlantic), operators would be fired if they break that
 LL> confidentiality.  It doesn't happen often, but when it
 LL> does, everyone knows about it (the firing, I mean.)

Leti, the confidentiality rules don't only apply to the
operators, they apply to the service representations as
well as others who have access to phone records.  I had
high access to residential and business records since
I processed orders whether they were establishing new
accounts, disconnecting service or simply making changes.
I used to work for SWBT and then went with AT&T where
we handled all accounts in Oklahoma and Arkansas.

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From: Janet.Fanning@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Janet Fanning)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: want old box
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:19:04 GMT
Reply-To: Janet.Fanning@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:141/420.0 - The Handicap News, Shelton CT
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24129

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

I need a inexpensive closed caption box.  If someone has one to sell (if
you are upgrading), please let me know.  Thanks  Janet

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: from the president of syntha-voice 4
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:34:35 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24166

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I can understand a part of your concern about offering a demo of
your Window Bridge product, but the fact is that it still does not
all add up.

1. You assert that you do not want to be flododed with calls from
people who have demo versions of the software.  Ok, place a
disclaimer on the copyright screen of the demo and in the
documentation stating that only callers with a valid Syntha-voice
registration number will be given  customer assistance on the toll
free line.  WordPerfect and Borland certainly get by with that why
shouldn't you.  I believe Artic Technologies generally also follows
this rule.

2. In your demo documentation all you need to do is list what is
necessary to run Windows and the Windows software.  If a person
really wants to use it they will have to go out and buy Windows and
a cheap mouse.  That total investment will cost them somewhere in
the neighborhood of $100 if they have to buy both Windows and the
mouse.  The fact is they will need them both if they ever plan to
use Windows, so it's a case of buy it now or buy it before they
successfully use Windows.

3.   It is my belief that had your person giving demonstrations at
the ACB convention have allowed users to actually give the software
a try for themselves that there would be less questions about how
well the software really works.   The ball is in your corner.  You
have the field of speech for Windows all to yourself right now; if
you want to take best advantage of that fact you would be well
advised to make a demo available; even if you only make it
available through bulletin board outlets you will be surprised how
much it will gain you to have it available.

4. What do you have to loose if you don't make a demo you will
probably have a lot of people who will not buy that might buy if
they had a chance to see what the software really will do for
them.

        D. T.

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From: Ron.Denis@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Denis)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Information Services
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:33:17 GMT
Reply-To: Ron.Denis@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24161

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I would like the pros and cons of some of the info services like
genie, Delphi, America on line, videotext,....  Ever since I bought
my new modem, my first actually, I've been getting these adds from
various places.  I'm interested in anyone's experience regarding
utility, value, and speech friendliness.  Although I prefer the
smaller ones, information on the BIg THREE would also be
appreciated.  What's good out there folks, and what's it good for?

     Ron

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From: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org (Kathleen Mcintosh)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: General Interest
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:27:04 GMT
Reply-To: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:264/181 - Les's Corner BBS, Richmond VA

Index Number: 24140

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 [SS] but....it is generally not a good idea to switch around
 [SS] due to possible cross-tolerance between opiods.  A good
 [SS] technique is to stick with one opiod ( controlled-released
 [SS] morphine is the best ) and titrate the dose as needed.

Don't worry, I never switched drugs without my doctor's O.K.  I've
never heard of controlled-released morphine before.  I'll have to
ask the doc about that.

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From: Bill.Wise@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Wise)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Fast chairs
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:17:34 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Wise@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/3 - Nerd's Nook, Rocky River OH
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24341

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Hi Alan,

While tracking down the original message of this thread, it seems
you may have gotten a great deal of comment but little
information.  Here is some hard info.  Powered wheelchairs normally
have a top speed of about 5 mph.  Invacare Arrow W/C's have a
optional pulley that allows about 8 or 9 mph, but their dealers are
not likely to admit to it these days.  I have a friend who is a W/C
tech, and he has a "super modified" chair that runs on 36 volts,
has modified pulleys and motors.  It will do about 25 mph.  Having
ridden in this death trap, I don't recommend going that fast with
currently available control methods.

Five miles per hour is equal to a fast walk, and for most puplic
situations, this is about the right speed.  My friend is not alone
in his tinkering as I have several reports on file of powered
wheelchair users being cited for speeding.

There was a study done several years ago that compaired powered
W/C's for speed and several other factors.  It was done by Kerry
Jones at the Rehab Tech Center, Memorial Hosp.  The info is likely
out of date due to model changes, but I could send a copy if you
are truly interested.

                Bill \\'ise

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