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From: TRANLE@intellicorp.com (Minh Tran-Le)
Subject: emacs-18.59 and PURESIZE ...
Reply-To: tranle@intellicorp.com
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:00:28 GMT

Why does the value of PURESIZE that one can set in src/config.h changes
so much between different platforms.

My lisp/site-init.el load 2 packages: "ebuff-menu" and "complete" and
I am building emacs with X11 interface.

And I have to set PURESIZE to:

    135000  for rs6000 aix32
    140000  for sun4 sunos4.1.1
    170000  for mips ricsos4.52b

All these platforms have the same byte ordering and same structure
alignment requirement so I thought that they should have the same
PURESIZE requirement for the same amount of elisp code loaded.

Does anybody have an explanation for the discrepancies in the PURESIZE
values ?

Thanks,
Minh Tran-Le.

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: ralph@laas.laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
Subject: HELP -- memory exhausted
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.bug
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France
Distribution: gnu
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:59:21 GMT

What to do when the above "memory exhausted" message occurs?  It seems
that I have a 4.8 Mb VM mail folder (it's supposed to be big, but THAT
big!) that caused this problem.  I've tried editing it down, but now I
get that message.

How can I now save the buffer contents somewhere?

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: kmp@harlequin.COM (Kent Pitman)
Subject: -title
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:30:04 GMT

Why must I say "-wn xxx" instead of "-title xxx" to set the title of a
Gnu Emacs window under X?  It's my understanding that "-title" is the
more common way of doing this.

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: pjr@jet.UK (Paul J Rippin)
Subject: termcap-1.1
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:19:03 GMT

Version : 1.1
Compiler: gcc-2.2.2
Flags   : -O2
H/W     : Sparc2
O/S     : SunOs 4.1.2

If $TERMCAP contains the terminal description and NOT the path of the
termcap file, AND $TERM is not the same terminal as the description then
/etc/termcap should be used to find the new description.  This was not
happening.  GNUtermcap was still trying to open the first part of the
description as a file.  This came to light using the program xterm.

Xterm running as a vt100 had already loaded the vt100 description into
$TERMCAP.  From the shell inside xterm we tried to run "xterm -t" which
starts up a tektronix 4014 window, so xterm needed to search for the
4014 entry in /etc/termcap.  Unfortunately it never looked there, but
tried to open "vs|xterm|vs100|xterm" and then reported
"xterm:  unable to find usable termcap entry."

This was fixed by modifying line 410 of termcap.c.  If the code reaches
this line then tem must by NULL or point to a file.  If it contains a
usable entry then we have previous executed "goto ret".

Paul

*** termcap.c.orig      Thu Oct  1 14:44:34 1992
--- termcap.c   Wed Dec 23 17:47:32 1992
***************
*** 406,412 ****
    else
      indirect = (char *) 0;
  
!   if (!tem)
  #ifdef VMS
      tem = "emacs_library:[etc]termcap.dat";
  #else
--- 406,412 ----
    else
      indirect = (char *) 0;
  
!   if (!tem || !filep) /* tem && !filep && $TERM = name has gone to ret: */
  #ifdef VMS
      tem = "emacs_library:[etc]termcap.dat";
  #else

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: gildea@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Stephen Gildea)
Subject: Re: want interface to upcase_initials_region
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:32:52 GMT

    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:43:50 -0800 (PST)
    From: MILLER@TGV.COM (Bruce R'. Miller)

    What's wrong with (capitalize-region (region-beginning) (region-end)) ?
    

It does something different with capitals embedded within words.

For example, suppose a person who has difficulty with the Shift key
wants to type a list of names.  They might type them in all lower case
and then run some capitalizing function over the names.

Using capitalize-region works only if you don't have any names that
have internal capitals, such as MacArthur, LeFebvre, or DeBakey.  You
would have to supply the capitalization of these names when you type
them in, but then using capitalize-region would destroy this work.
Hence the need for upcase-initials-region.

 < Stephen

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: gildea@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Stephen Gildea)
Subject: sort-regexp-fields doc string mangled
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:49:09 GMT

The "\<" in an example regexp in the sort-regexp-fields documentation
string needs to be quoted for substitute-command-keys.

Here are diffs from Emacs 18.59.

 < Stephen

*** lisp/sort.el-18.59	Wed Jan  9 17:04:27 1991
--- lisp/sort.el	Mon Dec 28 11:30:55 1992
***************
*** 275,279 ****
  For example: to sort lines in the region by the first word on each line
   starting with the letter \"f\",
!  RECORD-REGEXP would be \"^.*$\" and KEY \"\\<f\\w*\\>\""
    (interactive "P\nsRegexp specifying records to sort: 
  sRegexp specifying key within record: \nr")
--- 275,279 ----
  For example: to sort lines in the region by the first word on each line
   starting with the letter \"f\",
!  RECORD-REGEXP would be \"^.*$\" and KEY \"\\=\\<f\\w*\\>\""
    (interactive "P\nsRegexp specifying records to sort: 
  sRegexp specifying key within record: \nr")

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: rosen@equinox.unr.edu (David B. Rosen)
Subject: problems with mail-do-fcc
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:53:24 GMT

The following two problems apply to sendmail.el, emacs version 18.58.1 .

1) If a file being written to by mail-do-cc is being visited by a
buffer, but the buffer is read-only, it fails to append and returns an
error.  I believe it should temporarily make the buffer writeable instead.

2) mail-do-cc always writes a "\n" before the "From" at the beginning
of the message.  When the file being written is previously empty or
nonexistent, this creates a mail file that begins with a blank line
before the first "From ", which is nonstandard and makes some mail
programs unable to recognize it a unix mail file.

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: eirik@elf.tn.cornell.edu (Eirik Fuller)
Subject: gdb-refresh
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:01:53 GMT

I seem to recall that some time ago I made a suggestion for gdb mode,
and the response was something like "that sounds like a good idea, but
we don't have time for it now; resubmit it later".

Well, now it's later.  :-)

My suggestion concerns the binding of C-l in gdb mode.  It seems that
whoever devised this binding was unaware of the full behavior of the
global binding of C-l; for a user who finds the global binding of C-l
(recenter) far more useful for scrolling (as in M-0 C-l) than for
refresh, the gdb mode binding of C-l is extremely annoying.  Here's a
replacement which does the same thing as the present gdb mode C-l
binding in the absence of a prefix arg, and is more nearly consistent
with the global binding of C-l.  I would not object to improvements in
the doc string.


(defun gdb-recenter (arg)
  "Recenter, and redisplay the frame"
  (interactive "P")
  (gdb-display-frame)
  (recenter arg))

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: gildea@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Stephen Gildea)
Subject: want interface to upcase_initials_region
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:48:27 GMT

I just discovered in the Emacs 18.59 sources a function I have
wanted before: upcase_initials_region, which changes the first
letter of each word to uppercase without disturbing the rest of the
word.  Unfortunately, this function is not callable from lisp.

Please make upcase_initials_region available.  I've appended diffs.

 < Stephen


*** src/casefiddle.c-18.59	Fri Jan  4 19:13:58 1991
--- src/casefiddle.c	Mon Dec 28 11:12:54 1992
***************
*** 164,171 ****
  }
  
! /* Like Fcapitalize but change only the initials.  */
! 
! Lisp_Object
! upcase_initials_region (b, e)
       Lisp_Object b, e;
  {
--- 164,173 ----
  }
  
! DEFUN ("upcase-initials-region", Fupcase_initials_region, Supcase_initials_region, 2, 2, "r",
!   "Convert the first letter of every word in the region to upper case.\n\
! In programs, wants two arguments.  These arguments specify the starting\n\
! and ending character numbers of the region to operate on.  When used as\n\
! a command, the text between point and the mark is operated on.")
!   (b, e)
       Lisp_Object b, e;
  {
***************
*** 237,240 ****
--- 239,243 ----
    defsubr (&Sdowncase_region);
    defsubr (&Scapitalize_region);
+   defsubr (&Supcase_initials_region);
    defsubr (&Supcase_word);
    defsubr (&Sdowncase_word);
*** src/abbrev.c-18.59	Mon Aug 12 21:30:41 1991
--- src/abbrev.c	Mon Dec 28 11:13:32 1992
***************
*** 284,289 ****
  	if (scan_words (point, -1) > scan_words (wordstart, 1))
  	  {
! 	    upcase_initials_region (make_number (wordstart),
! 				    make_number (point));
  	    goto caped;
  	  }
--- 284,289 ----
  	if (scan_words (point, -1) > scan_words (wordstart, 1))
  	  {
! 	    Fupcase_initials_region (make_number (wordstart),
! 				     make_number (point));
  	    goto caped;
  	  }
*** src/search.c-18.59	Tue Oct  8 00:07:38 1991
--- src/search.c	Mon Dec 28 11:07:25 1992
***************
*** 1078,1082 ****
      Fupcase_region (make_number (point - inslen), make_number (point));
    else if (case_action == cap_initial)
!     upcase_initials_region (make_number (point - inslen), make_number (point));
    return Qnil;
  }
--- 1078,1082 ----
      Fupcase_region (make_number (point - inslen), make_number (point));
    else if (case_action == cap_initial)
!     Fupcase_initials_region (make_number (point - inslen), make_number (point));
    return Qnil;
  }


Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: jonas@ericad.ericsson.SE (Jonas Jaernestroem TG/HK)
Subject: truncated file names in the buffer menu
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:15:41 GMT

In GNU Emacs 18.57.2 on a Sun Sparc SLC running 4.1.1 BSD.

In Emacs I frequently visit files with full path names exceeding 38
chars, which means truncation of the last (and most interresting) part of
the filename when the window has the 80 chars "standard" width, when doing 
C-x C-b (list-buffers) to find out the buffer to file name correspondence.

I would prefer the truncation being done on the "root side" of the path
name.  It would also help to keep the path name short (and more readable)
if the absolute path to my homedir was replaced with the "~" sign.

Im aware of the possibility to do scroll-left to view the missing part, or increasing
the window width, though I find neither of them to be a good work around.

Jonas Jaernestroem Ericsson Telecom Sweden. jonas@ericad.ericsson.se
From: rosen@moriah.ee.unr.edu (David B. Rosen)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
Subject: bug in dired
Date: 23 Dec 92 12:59:33 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet

Dired apparently can't delete a file having embeded spaces in the
name.  E.g. "#%digest from INBOX#" appears in the *deletions* buffer
as merely "#%digest", and so is not found for deletion.

I'm using GNU Emacs 18.58.1 of Thu Sep 10 1992 under hp/ux hp9000s300.
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: will@sstl.UUCP (William Pickles)
Subject: chars go missing
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:16:42 GMT

In GNU Emacs 18.58.1 of Fri Oct 23 1992 on tramp (berkeley-unix)

bug description
under gnu-emacs 18.58.1
using an aaa-60 terminal with the changes suggested from gnu's /etc/termcap

when I use C-S or C-R searches
   if the next key I hit sends an esc the esc is lost
   else if the next key I hit is a meta key then it works fine
   else any other key works fine

Example key sequence is
C-S ....	finds and moves to the specified string
E-f		inserts f in buffer

C-S ....
M-f		moves point appropriately

This is not a function of typing speed
Where should I start looking?

William Pickles -- The STRAND Group		| 
uunet:<will@sstl.uucp> ph: +44 582 842424	| Bah !! Humbug !!!
		      fax: +44 582 840282	| 

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug
From: Gary_M_Selzer@att.com
Subject: suggestion for new emacs feature: spatial undo
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:36:00 GMT

Spatial undo would undo changes in order of decreasing spatial
proximity to point.  I think this would be an unusual and useful
feature.  I have not thought about how to implement this (it might be
a research project.)


I am unsure where to send this suggestion; the Emacs 18.57 DISTRIB
file invites suggestions for improvement but does not tell where to
send them.  I am mailing this suggestion to
bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu as listed in DISTRIB.
From: rid@nta.no (Robert I Danielsen)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.vms
Subject: Re: EMACS 18.59 installation problem
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:52:04 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research, Norway

In article <RID.92Dec16130536@spiff.nta.no> rid@nta.no (Robert I Danielsen) writes:

   I'm trying to get emacs-18.59 up on a VAX with VMS 5.5.
   I've followed the installation procedures, and I've managed to compile
   and link. When I run BUILD.COM which runs temacs.exe and dumps temacs.dump
   I get an error when temacs loads the Lisp files:

     . 
     .
     Loading c-mode...
     Loading isearch...
     Loading replace...
     Pure Lisp storage exhausted

Thanks to everyone who answered, the problem was that some of the .elc
files couldn't be loaded. I moved them, so the .el files was loaded instead.
Since the .el files take up more space, I had to increase PURESIZE in s-vms.h.
Cheers!

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.vm.bug
From: perry@johann.jpunix.com (John A. Perry)
Subject: Another error message!!
Organization: /users/perry/.organization
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:00:52 GMT

Hello Everyone!

	First of all, thank you to everyone that answered my previous
question about VM 5.32. Now that I have gotten past that, I'm getting
a new error message. Basically it states "can't support numeric
vm-flush-interval without interval timers... sorry." This happens when
I start VM 5.32. Can anyone explain this message to me?  Thank you in
advance.
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                   jpunix!johann!perry

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.vm.bug
From: perry@johann.jpunix.com (John A. Perry)
Subject: Problems with vm 5.32beta
Organization: /users/perry/.organization
Distribution: gnu
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:40:53 GMT

Hello Everyone,

	I am running EMACS 18.59 under SCO ODT 2.0. I just got a copy
of VM 5.32beta and installed it on my system. When I try to start it
up, I get a message at the bottom of the screen that says "wrong type
argument: arrayp, nil" When I run VM 4.41 I don't get this message and
everything works fine. Can someone give me a clue as to what I need to
do to fix VM 5.32beta? Thank you in advance.
-- 
 John A. Perry  -  perry@johann.jpunix.com
                   jpunix!johann!perry
From: Scott Weikart <scott@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.vm.bug
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:41 PST
Subject: Re: INBOX file saved with wrong user na
Nf-ID: #R:CYRIL.92Nov27115952@mercure.cosm:1663849568:cdp:1400600002:000:1246
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!scott    Dec 22 13:41:00 1992


> I am using VM version 5.32 beta and I noticed the following problem : 
> While reading my mail as "su", VM opens my INBOX file and gets my new mail
> (if any), but when exiting, the INBOX file and modified folders are saved
> under name "root".

Actually, my earlier posted fix only covered your INBOX, it didn't cover
creating new folders.  So, I wrote the following routine:

  (defun chown-root-file (file)
    "If we're root, chown FILE to vm-user-login-name else (user-login-name).
  Also, make sure the file is only readable and writable by owner."
    (if (eq (user-uid) 0)
	(call-process "chown" nil nil nil
		      (or (and (boundp 'vm-user-login-name) vm-user-login-name)
			  (user-login-name))
		      file))
    (set-file-modes file 384))		;o600, i.e. only readable by owner

and then call it after all calls to write-region or save-buffer (which seems
to cover all the places in VM 4.41, at least).

Note that I use vm-user-login-name and vm-user-full-name to read mail from one
of the other accounts I'm responsible for (as a system administrator with the
root password).

Scott Weikart			Community Data Processing (CdP): 415-322-9069
Internet: scott@igc.apc.org	Bitnet: scott%igc.apc.org@stanford
UUCP Mail Net: uunet!cdp!scott

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.vm.info
From: mellan@syst06.acri.fr (Alain Mellan)
Subject: Re: parsing the To: field
Organization: A.C.R.I., Lyon, France
	<MBN.92Dec16110332@greyskul.hf.intel.com>
	<MELLAN.92Dec15175122@syst06.acri.fr>
	<9212162309.AA13300@crystal.wonderworks.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:03:52 GMT

>>>>> In article <9212162309.AA13300@crystal.wonderworks.com>, kyle@crystal.wonderworks.com (Kyle Jones) writes:

MN> I think he may have a (broken) mailer such as mine which sends addresses
MN> of the form:
MN> 
MN> Firstname Lastname <username@domain.com>
MN> 
MN> into a giant bit bucket somewhere, whereas mail addressed as:
MN> 
MN>   username@domain.com (Firstname Lastname)
MN> 
MN> gets sent OK.

KJ> Ah, yes, I remember this bug.  The variable vm-strip-reply-headers was
KJ> added to VM to addresss this problem.  Try setting this variable to t
KJ> and see if it helps.  You might want to use "feedmail" anyway though;
KJ> I've only heard good things about it.


I downloaded feedmail, and it works fine. I'll see if setting
vm-strip-replay-headers can do any good. Thanks.
--
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69443 LYON CEDEX 03 - FRANCE          email:    amellan@acri.fr
From: dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: bam-2.0 problem
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:54:31 GMT
Organization: western geophysical exploration products
NNTP-Posting-Host: se05.wg2.waii.com

I  have  a  problem  with  bam-2.0  ...  bam.el dies with a Wrong type
arguement:    processp  nil     when  runnign  with Epoch 4.2 ... does
anyone know why?

I tried to contact the author but mail keeps bouncing.
--
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From: lhong@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: screen refreshing in DEMACS?
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:15:13 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Hello there,

Can anyone kindly tell me what is the command (keys) in DEMACS for
refreshing the screen.  My DEMACS left some  lines from previous screen
on the current screen and it is annoying.  I would appreciate your 
info.  Thanks.

Lang
lhong.matrix.cs.wright.edu
From: besson@cats.ucis.vill.edu (Morgan Besson)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: Micro-GNU Emacs for PC MS-DOS
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:22:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University

In article <BzGGy5.1FG@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu>, besson@vill.edu (Morgan Besson) writes...
>There are a few Emacs editors available for the PC.  The one I like the
>most is Micro-GNU (MG) version 2A.  It is a single exe of about 90k.
>It loads very quickly and has most, but not all, of the functionality of
>the full GNU Emacs.  It can be found via ftp at 128.100.2.160 in the
>directory /pub/mg.
> 
>Morgan Besson
>Villanova Univ.
>Villanova, Pennsylvania USA

The above server does not seem to be responding.  You can get the zipped
exe file at 16.1.0.2 in directory .2/micro/msdos/simtel20/editor named
mg2a_exe.zip, and the LaTeX documentation and the C sources at
128.83.186.11 in directory /pub/mnt/source/editors/mg2a named mg.tex.

Morgan Besson
From: daryl@cs.athabascau.ca (Daryl Campbell)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: saving buffers & rmail summaries
Keywords: save-some-buffers rmail-summary
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:11:45 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Athabasca University

We have a problem with root user's saving buffers with emacs and having emacs
not paying attention to leaving the file created with original ownership.
Are there any GNU Emacs Lisp packages that might correct this problem?

I have looked throught the FAQ and the Emacs Lisp Archive without any success.
It would be nice if this could be controlled with a .emacs variable or with 
write-file-hooks. 

My second question is regarding rmail-summaries.  I would like to be able
to write the corresponding mail from a rmail-summary-by-recipients to a file.
Am I just not using rmail-summary-output correctly, or do any of the Lisp 
rmail packages add in this feature?

-- 
Daryl Campbell		daryl@cs.athabascau.ca		(403)675-6379
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: perry@johann.johann.jpunix.com (John Perry)
Subject: Where is EMACS 18.59?
Organization: J. P. and Associates
Distribution: gnu
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:48:29 GMT

Hello Everyone!

	I have seen many reference from many sources talking about
EMACS 18.59. I have check the archie servers and none seem to mention
18.59. Can someone tell me if it is available and where I can FTP it
from? Thanks.
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