From: sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani)
Subject: Re: Multiple wives
Summary: Quran condradicts Mohd[pbuh] --- it better not
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:43:16 GMT

In article <AJ3U.92Aug30145834@ruby.cs.virginia.edu>, aj3u@ruby.cs.virginia.edu (Asim Jalis) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.162737.2390@sol.cs.wmich.edu>
> sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) quotes Nancy Holmes
> and reiterates that polygamy is forbidden in Islam.  This
> assertion is based on two Quranic verses.  I refer the interested
> reader to the article mentioned above for more details on this.
> 
> Let me simply remind the readers that the Prophet, may God grant
> him peace, and many Sahaba, may God be pleased with them, were
> all married to more than one woman.  This should question the
> reasoning that has led to Naveed's conclusion.  
> 
> Thus, based on the example of the Prophet, may God grant him
> peace, and the Sahaba, may God be pleased with them, it is thus
> established that polygamy is allowed in Islam.
> 
> Asim Jalis.


Asim bhai:

Let me ask you one simple question, what is wrong with Nancy's
logic. It is perfect. When shown proof that quran forbids polygamy
by ACTUAL versus, now you are saying and let me state it:

  WE HAVE TO PAY NO ATTENTION TO QURAN SINCE MOHD[PBUH} DID 
  HAVE MULTIPLE WIVES.

this is absurd!, Quran and Mohd[pbuh] cannot contradict each
other.

Infact Mohd[pbuh] had NINE wives at one time. (given by a specific
quranic injection(sp?), but still, we cannot follow that).

Should muslims follow quran or mohd[pbuh] ? muslims are in a fix ?

I am reproducing the article by Nancy below to keep other SCPians
in context.

As I stated eralier, I would like to see some discussion on
these quranic versus and NOTHING else. Allah[swt] has told
all the world that quran is not corrupted and no verse can be
wrong. So let's discuss it.

Again, if this too touchy an affair for muslims on SCP, I will
withdraw the question, but then they must give up their right
to attack other religions. They will also have to give up the claim
that Islam is most perfect, most unique and the only true religion
in the whole universe.

I hope to present a situation that all religions have little quirks here
and there. So lets leave everybody's religion alone. One way of
doing it is to show that everyone's religion has a little quirk.

Let us live with our religions, let us not say that my religion
is superior than yours, for it is a folly of mind. The only superiority
that one has is in the view of gods (if you believe in them) or 
in your own eyes (if you dont).

regards,

-Naveed

PS: Infact, we should be worried about a bigger problem, the two quran
versus contradict each other, let alone Mohd's[pbuh] actions.

A person more knowledgeable in quran and Hadith may comment on this
glaring contradiction.

I will worry about this problem when I have more time, in about fifteen
days. I will go thru quran to understand this problem in more detail.

In article <9208261954.aa12693@Paris.ics.uci.edu>, nholmes@vesta.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
> 
> I have been following the recent discussion on
> SCP about "multiple marriages" and would like to
> make the following comment regarding Rukshana Merchant's
> posting.
> 
> Miss Merchant has produced two phrases from the Qur'an:
> 
>         "If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly
>         with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three,
>         or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal
>         justly (with them), then (marry) only one..." (Qur'an 4:3) 	... (1)
> 
>         "You are never able to be fair and just as between women
>         even if it is your ardent desire...."  (Qur'an 4:129)		... (2)
> 
> 
> Use of the word "never" by Allah[swt] in phrase (2) indicates that
> no man, regardless of his intent, is ever able to be fair and just
> between women.  If this is the case, then Allah[swt]'s phrase (1)
> implies that all men should marry at most one woman.
> 
> -Regards,
> 
> Nancy D. Holmes


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