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From: CHRISS%CWU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Lobstrosities Unite)
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Subject: Desert Storm Meal
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:57:00 GMT
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>Speaking of meal plans, today's special in my office building was the Desert
>Storm (ending) Anniversary Special.  I lost my appetite. >-P  But, didn't it
>end during the end of February or the beginning of March.  They are a little
>late.
>
>Ciao 4 Niao,
>Mark R. Susskind <NY911179 @ PACEVM.BITNET>


What, did they get a special on MREs that had seen Desert Storm Action?
Blechhhh!

Chris

(The dried fruit isn't too bad, but stay away from that chiken-n-rice stuff).
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      loneliness
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Since I don't want to send one of those "Is something wrong with words-l
or is it just me?" messages, I'll just say that it's terribly
disappointing having to wait until tomorrow for more reports of today's
Pre-Clam gathering...and that I can hardly believe that Chris and The
Ronin have sent only one message each all evening.  (Although I am
impressed that Natalie has resisted temptation and graded all those papers!)
ndh
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE%IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Roundabouts and such
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              6 Apr 1992 10:32:53 EST from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

On Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:32:53 EST <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU> said:
>In the discussion of worst places to drive last week, did anyone mention
>the German Autobahns?  So deadly that there's a subgenre of popular music
>about tragic pileups.  Sorta like our
>
>     Where oh where can my baby be?
>     The Lord took her away from me.
>     She's gone to heaven so I got to be good,
>     So I can see my baby when I lea-eave this world.

No question that there were a flood of such maudlin car-wreck songs in
late 50s.....Transfusion, by Nervous Norvus.....the one about the ring....
and so on....a few of them got smashed by trains instead....

BUT....what does this have to do with the Autobahns?   Were they written
by GIs stationed over there with Elvis?  etc?

dan
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      Re: BWP Stats 4/4/92

Earlier today, Evelyn Duncan complained about her courseload:

:  Being a math major, I get enough mathematical enlightenment just
: going to classes:  Jacobi method, SOR method, eigenvectors, eigenvalues,
: Gaussian elimination, norms of matrices and vectors, .... :-)

Sounds like you're all ready to get started in economic theory.
Many of these are econometric tools (you should see what we do with
quadratic forms) and others are useful in theory.  Show that a
minimum cost exists given an input requirement set that is a closed
subset of the nonnegative orthant and strictly positive input prices.

Steve Karlson
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Swedish cake mix
              12 Apr 1992 18:51:00 CDT from <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:51:00 CDT Tushar Samant said:
>
>Anyone who pronounces Hindu, Buddhist and Sindh with a hard 'd'
>is illiterate.
>
What about anyone who pronounces Tao with a 't'?

>tushar

Evelyn
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From:         CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Goodbye

On Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:08:00 MDT The Ronin said:
>Asketh        "Aaron Dickey, The Happy Spore" <AXD7104@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU>
>
>> > Convincing a university to dedicate reasonable resources to student
>> >network access is a job for the eloquent not the technically skilled.
>
--or faculty... we have to pay for our accounts out of our own pockets, since
there are no funds available for network access, despite the fact that it
contributes so much to our work...to add further insult, I wouldn't even have
a computer in my office if I hadn't brought my own from home...yet we are
seen (state employees) as overpaid nebishes by the general tax-paying
public....
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PDQ Wagner

>...in back...with my eyes closed...Walkman on...listening to
>   "Eine Kleine Nichtmusik" (sp? I'm at work, so I can't check, but
>it is one of my favorites).
>            ,
>      Touche.
>
>Jill

Jill, I got the biggest kick out of this!  What you're listening to is "Eine
Kleine Nachtmusik" by Motzart ("A Little Night Music" for those who don't
translate German).  What you said was A Little Not Music.

Thanks for the giggles, unintentional though it may have been.  It's one of my
favorite pieces, too.  We had it played at our wedding.

Chris
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fitting in

>well, I have edited some professional newsletters over the years.  And was
>Assistant Editor of 73 Magazine in the early 60's.   Now lets see who knows
>what 73 Mag is.....
>
>dan

Ah, the old Wayne Green empire, unless I'm mistaken.  What's become of that
guy?  Not being a ham (of that variety, anyway), I never read 73, but I
did--much later than the early 60s, of course--read Microcomputing.  Green
was always writing columns in which he rarely failed to grouse about how
Byte had been stolen from him by an ex-wife or some such.

Have I made the right association here or was your 73 something other?

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:28:04 EDT
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From:         barbara klinar <N690012%UNIVSCVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      our pedigrees (!)

As for my pedigree (if you could call it that); my mother was born and raised
in Limerick, Ireland.  Her father still lives in the house they all lived in wh
en she was a child. Her brother,sister,aunts,uncles, and cousins remain in her
hometown. My father is a Georgia (USA) boy, but his grandparents hail from
Ulster.  In fact, his great-great grandmother's name was Mary Wilson, my mom's
name since they were married (her maiden name was King).

                                             ERIN GO BRAGH!

                                     (unless you are a feminist-in which case
                                      it's ERIN GO BRAGHLESS)

                                barbara--yes seeing the pattern emerge!!
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:18:52 CDT
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reflections on the matter of language change
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> Karen
> List-Angel and Linguist-at-Large
>
> P.S. If I ever meet Frank Peters, linguist manque, I'm going to
> kiss him till he's delirious.

You should have planned your trip to Memphis for this weekend instead
of last weekend.  There's a chance he may be there right now, although
I'm not sure of that.  I haven't fingered for him on Ra in over an hour
now.
...
I love ctrl-z/fg.  (Thanks, Bayla, for telling me about it.)  I just
fingered fwp without leaving mail:

:-) finger fwp
Login name: fwp       In real life: Frank Peters
Directory: /home-isis/cc/fwp        Shell: /bin/ksh
On since Apr 15 14:39:37 on ttyp1 from Jester.CC.MsStat
16 hours Idle Time
No unread mail  [<---- lie!  He has a program that makes it just look
                             that way.]
No Plan.  [<---- except to butcher poor Bernardykins]

Yep.  He appears to be out of town.  Today is a university holiday.
I'm totally against university holidays.  People like Frank should
*never* be allowed to leave.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:18:48 EDT
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Yo-yo
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              still alive" at Apr 16, 92 10:10 pm

> I'm here too, on a lonely Thursday night with my TV broken...

	Who needs the TV when you can listen to The Sex Palace
on WBCN?

Czarina
(Getting her mind out of the gutter now, really!)
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      Idempotency (was nouns)

"Idempotent" refers to a property of matrices that reproduce
themselves in some way.  In econometrics we encounter a matrix
usually called M = I - X(X'X)^(-1)X'.  Multiply it by itself and
you get it back.

I've never tried using that property as a pickup line.  Don't expect
to, either.  Doesn't strike me as terribly sexy.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:50:09 -0400
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From:         "Peter Larimer @ U.N.H." <P_LARIMER%UNHH.UNH.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      gerund
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>What is a Gerund?  I can't remember.   LJG

A gerund is the noun form of a verb e.g. lurking can be dangerous to your
health.                                  ^^^^^^^^

Not to be confused with the gerundive, the adjectival form of the verb,
e.g., lurking behavior can be dangerous to your health.

Pete (no longer lurking)
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:13:27 CDT
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gleanings (39)

> 25) Jeane Dixon (Natalie)

Jeane Dixon is a writer of newspaper horoscopes.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:17:19 EDT
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Yo!
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              at Apr 16, 92 6:45 pm

	All right, I'm *going* to log off.  Really.  My Time
Magazine came tonite and I have to give a good once-over.  BTW,
from just a glance, I like the new font.  I reminds me a lot of
Palatino -- lighter, prettier, and easier on the eyes.  The formatting,
though, leaves a lot to be desired.  You're right Harwell; it's hard
to tell between articles and the advertisements.
	Hmm.  My new flannel sheets arrived today, too.  Nice and
soft and cozy.  So I'll curl up with my novel.   Much better than
sitting in my chilly study pounding on this cranky old vt52.  Yeah
Right.

Czarina

(And keep your claws off them nubile young things, Lobs!  I know
*all about* you landlord types!)
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:03:09 EST
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From:         Steve Portigal <stevep%SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: your mail
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              "DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Apr 17, 92 12:43 pm

DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:
>
> Confuseth the Ronin:
>
> >     No need to get drastic, here.  The Ronin was in class and then
> >attempted a COBOL student, but he is back on the terminal for a couple
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> What does that mean?
  It's a complex maneuver, only for the most expert of mental gymnasts.  Do
not try this at home.  I once managed a double nursing student but I haven't
ever dared try to infamous COBOL.

--
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:18:03 EDT
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal%CURSCI.UUCP@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Idempotency
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While missing the jokes, we had a couple of explanations of
idempotency from Rashmi & Steve:

:From: rashmi%CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Rashmi Murthy)
:
:Idempotent is a quantity (or operator) that is unchanged by
:multiplication by itself.  Unity is idempotent, as is any identity
:matrix.

:From: TA0SHK1%NIU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980)
:
:"Idempotent" refers to a property of matrices that reproduce
:themselves in some way.  In econometrics we encounter a matrix
:usually called M = I - X(X'X)^(-1)X'.  Multiply it by itself and
:you get it back.

Interestingly enough, though both meanings are correct, neither of them
is the meaning used in Computer Science.  We describe a function or operation
as idempotent if it always gives the same result for the same input,
ie it has no internal state or randomness.  Typically, a network
file-server would be written with idempotent primitives such as
"write this block at this offset in the file", as opposed to non-idempotent
primitives such as "write this block to the file at the current offset
and move the offset on".  This means that in the event of network
hiccoughs for instance, re-executing the command will not corrupt
the file.

Graham
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Kids and language revisited
              9 Apr 1992 12:34:03 EDT from <AMPHYS01@YSUB.YSU.EDU>

>know what illiteracy meant, so I told him -- and, always explaining how
>you can understand an unfamiliar word if you look at the root, went on
>with literature, literate, etc.
>
may I be obnoxious and point out that these roots frequently come from Latin.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:51:52 CDT
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From:         Bernard Chien Perro <maynor%CS.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hello???
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> The only user I object to is that damned beaglemutt.

I didn't realize that there were other dogs using the system...

       * * *               /
      *  o   * * * * * * /     Bernard, Systems Programmer
    O                  *          Specializing in UNIX
        * * * * * * * *        Assistant Supervisor of Ra
        / \         / \
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject: Re: tarmac rugrats

Natalie asks, "Is it even possible to have an older brother without
being the victim of teasing?"

Well, as an older brother who gave his sister her daily ration of
s---, my inclination would be to say no.  But in all fairness I musk
ask Natalie if she gave as good as she got.

Steve Karlson

"You're the oldest, you HAVE to set an example" (Mama K)
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From:         CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Understatement of the Year
              15 Apr 1992 00:24:52 MST from <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>

On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:24:52 MST Dan Lester said:
>anyway, they asked the normal questions, we gave polite "nosirs" to the
>alcohol, importing anything, etc.  The guy said "pull over here, now".
>So we did.  We were there for just under an hour while they crawled under
>the van, opened all of the built in compartments, went thru luggage (mostof
>which was in paper bags and such).

Something similar happened to my ex-husband and me when we crossed back from
Mexico in 1975...we DID smoke, but of course had nothing in the van....they
put a dog in the van, took the tires/wheels off, torn out the carpet, etc.,
etc.....we were there for hours, and it was really harrowing....I just had
read that vivid article in Rolling Stone about Mexican prisons before we left,
which added to the sense of impending doom....but we made it! They poured out
all the tequila we'd brought back, though....
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Visceral response
Organization: Independent scholar
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:17:34 GMT


*Somebody* ought to get in trouble dept: In today's -Chicago Trib-'s
"Style" section, (p.6, O ye scholars) Bulls coach Phil Jackson (described
elsewhere in the article as "Mr Cerebral") is quoted as contrasting the
nature of his psyche with that of his wife: "She has a more guttural or a
more emotional level with which she deals with things.  I deal with them
... intellectually." 

My guttural reaction: AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!.


--bayla
     Dort, wo man Bucher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen.
     Wherever books are burned men also, in the end, are burned.
                               Heinrich Heine [1797-1856]




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From:         Rita <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cambridge photos
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>I expect to see photos of the Cambridge pre-clam get-together tomorrow.
>Rita--you'll be able to e-mailize them, right? Where should I send them?
>(And thanks for the $3 rebate--got it today.) -rod

        Yeah, I talked to my techies, and they say we should be able
to do a pretty decent gif job on them.  We have two scanners -- both
very nice.  Send 'em to my work address.

Rita Rouvalis
Electronic Frontier Foundation
155 Second Street
Cambridge MA  02141

        I can't wait to see 'em!

Rita
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Descriptive and prescriptive

> I wonder if "good" or "proper" didn't evolve as terms describing the
> standard because those terms are easier for parents to teach their
> kids than "efficient."  Comments?
>
A thoughtful clarification.... I agree

>
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From:         Frank Peters <fwp%CC.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Goodbye
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In article <WORDS-L%92041314271267@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
 BGRISSOM%UKCC.UKY.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU says:
>>  My account is about to
>>die, as I've used my my "allotment" for the student year.
>>... Since I don't have any way of knowing exactly when my account will
>>die, I figured it would be best to say goodbye now rather than just
>>disappearing one day into the ether.
>>--Aaron
>
>When I read Aaron's note yesterday, I hoped that the computer people on
>the list would know exactly what to do to rescue him, but I judge from
>the responses that this is just the way things are.  Goodbye, Aaron, and
>good luck!  I sense there will be other computer accounts in your future.

Alas, the problem is not a technical one and so doesn't have a
technical solution.  There are, actually, commercial options for
connecting to the internet...but they are generally impractical on a
student budget.

Convincing a university to dedicate reasonable resources to student
network access is a job for the eloquent not the technically skilled.

--
Frank Peters  -  UNIX Systems Programmer  -  Mississippi State University
Internet: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu  -  Phone: (601)325-7030  -  FAX: (601)325-8921
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From:         torkel%SICS.SE@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Descriptive and prescriptive
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              09 Apr 92 22:07:38 +0000. <9204092246.AA01867@sics.se>

  Anne states, regarding "he does not" and "he do not":

  >I don't think I need to say which is preferable to me.  Call me an english
  >snob, whatever, but I maintain that despite the evolution of spoken
  >english, there will remain some basic standard by which "good" english
  >(written and spoken) is judged.

  Yes, but that doesn't mean you're saying that "he does not" is
innately superior to "he do not". What could "innately" mean here?
Innate in what?  Surely your view is that "he does not" is preferable
to "he do not" on grounds pertaining to consistency, clarity, and
aesthetics (including such intangibles as nuances and associations) in
the use of the English language as a whole, as it now exists?

  Pondering the question whether this makes you a snob, I look up the
relevant sense of the word in webster:

 one who has an offensive air of superiority in matters of knowledge or taste

and find myself grinning with inane delight at the flexibility and expressive-
ness of a language that enables us to produce such explanations.
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:44:07 CDT
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From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Goodbye
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>Well, I just discovered something interesting.  My account is about to
>die, as I've used my my "allotment" for the student year.  Seems we're
>'charged' for the any time spent online, and for all disk space (well,


Aaron,

Back in the bad old days, we were allocated a cartain number of CPU seconds for
a class, and if we ran out before the semester ended, we failed the class. In
reward for efficient usage of the System 36, we were also awarded extra credit
points for CPU seconds remaining in our accounts at the end of the semester.

-abh
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