From: "wayne mcguire" <wayne.mcguire@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: zionist hypocrisy
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:03:44 EST
Reply-To: "wayne mcguire" <wayne.mcguire@channel1.com>
Distribution: talk
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

To: Adam Shostack

 AS> [Netanyahu] has called for deportation of criminals.  Le Pen
 AS> calls for all arabs tobe kicked out of France. When Kahane
 AS> made equivilent statements, he was banned from the Kenneset,
 AS> and his party was declared illegal.

Criminals? Netanyahu, the current fair-haired boy of Likud,
called for the deportation of Palestinians on the West Bank in
groups of as many as 500, at "various" times. That probably
amounts to thousands of Palestinians.

With what crimes were these Palestinians charged that would
justify deporting them? What sort of due process did they enjoy?

By Israel's enlightened values does throwing stones merit
deportation? Death by summary execution in the streets? Israel is
"a light unto the nations"? Jimmy Swaggart here we come....

By these political standards couldn't the Nazis justify deporting
violent Communist agitators, many of them Jewish? Couldn't the
U.S. justify deporting African-American rioters in L.A. and
elsewhere?

Kahane was banned from the Knesset because he became a global
public relations embarrassment, but Raveham Ze'evi, the head of
Moledet, served as a high official in Yitzhak Shamir's
government. Ze'evi, who advocated the mass deportation of Arabs
from sacred Jewish territory, was described by Nachum Barnea
thus: "He is Kahane in a general's uniform." Ze'evi also smeared
George Bush as "a liar and an anti-Semite" when Israel failed to
receive a $10 billion loan guarantee from the U.S. the moment it
snapped its fingers.

>matter. Nor if Israel increasingly becomes a Jewish theocratic
>state does it have much ground to stand on in objecting to the
>U.S. becoming a Christian theocratic state.

 AS> Nonsense.  Israel does not have any equivilent of the first
 AS> Ammendment (Congress shall make no law respecting an
 AS> estalishment of religion or prohibiting the free exsecise
 AS> thereof)

You profoundly the miss the point. The issue here is the
hypocrisy of American Zionists on the one hand suppressing with
all their might any manifestations of Christianity in the
American government, while at the same time passionately
demanding American taxpayer support for a nation, Israel,
suffused with Orthodox Jewish theocratic influence. The kicker
here is that American support is supposedly justified on the
grounds that Israel shares America's democratic values. A
keystone of American democratic values is the separation of
church and state.

This is Israel's main problem these days: Israel and its
supporters increasingly look ridiculous. The more they talk to
try to rationalize themselves, the more ridiculous they look.
Many bright and thoughtful Jews will know precisely what I am
talking about.

Israel was supposed to be a haven and a source of pride for Jews.
It is neither. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Zionism,
like Communism, will prove to be a complete failure, just another
false messianism among many which have been discredited and swept
away by historical reality. It was a nice concept, but the
practical implementation doesn't seem to be working out. With
every increase in aid that Israel demands from the U.S., it
appears to be increasingly an unreal state, a toy state, a
fantasy state. I wonder if the recognition of this failure, more
than anything else, doesn't account for the verbal violence and
perpetual hysteria of so many Diaspora Zionists who lack
sufficient conviction actually to put their bodies on the line in
Israel itself. Guilt is a powerful psychological force. Many
non-Jews, however, are getting sick of all the ranting.
Nationalist ranting in any group is not a pretty sight, and the
U.S. was designed by its founding geniuses precisely to get away
from all that muck.
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