HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Enhancement Idea for DevGuide
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:09:12 GMT
Reply-To: neve@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine

In article 1701@crd.ge.com, leue@crd.ge.com (Bill Leue) writes:
>DevGuide 3.0 is pretty nice, in general.  However, there are certain kinds
>of panels for which it generates less than optimal code.  Here's a suggestion
>for an enhancement to handle these problems.
>
>The typical example is a panel in which you have a very large number of
>occurances of similar panel items, say 256 check boxes or some other such
>monstrosity.  
>
>Whatever the motivation, you sometimes end up with lots and lots'a the same
>kind of panel item. DevGuide generates a scalar opaque handle for each item.
>However, what you usually want in this case is an ARRAY of handles so that
>you can initialize and process the items in simple loops....

I know this doesn't solve DevGuide's need for a "duplicate" operation,
nor is it always the most efficient way of going about things,
but doesn't a macro like

	PANEL_EACH_ITEM
	PANEL_END_EACH

in conjunction with the PANEL_LAYOUT attribute help with your need for a 
simple processing loop in your application? 

Forgive me if this is stating the obvious.

Leif Neve
Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3945 comp.sys.sun.apps:2048
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: OW3 version of dbxtool
Keywords: dbxtool OW3_deliberately_crippled
Date: 25 Sep 92 20:28:04 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Sep24.181238.27922@cs.yale.edu> reinitz-john@CS.YALE.EDU (John Reinitz) writes:
<In article <1992Sep24.153746.1435@mcm.com> jgb@mcm.com (Jeff Bennington) writes:
<>In article <1992Sep23.143031.17375@bnr.ca> webster@bnr.ca writes:
<>>Is there an OpenWindows 3.0 version of dbxtool?
<>>If so, where can I get it.
<>
<>Yes there IS such a version of dbxtool.  It comes bundled
<>with SPARCworks, available from Sun.  One of my staff asked
<>me the same question recently, so I did some research..
<
<Oh, is *that* it?  
<
<I always wondered why my ELC at home, running OW2, had a wonderful
<dbx xnews GUI, while the SS2 at work with OW3 had a buggy braindead
<dbxtool sunview interface that won't select & paste text and usually causes
<odd bright red disturbances in the color map.
<
<I know you people at Sun are reading this. I know you don't care about
<me.... I'm not the manager of some big company that you can sell $10^6
<of "value added" software to. I'm just a scientist who writes code.
<But I don't like this. In one person, "improved software" with
<*reduced* *functionality* generates ill will toward your company.
<
<I'd rather have a good dbxtool then all these pseudo-Macintosh "deskset"
<tailfins & chrome.

Just copy your OW2.0 version of dbxtool over to the machine that is running
OW3.0.  It will work as well as it ever did :-)
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From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: How to get a selected string from a panel_list ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:57:26 GMT

> In article <RICKG.92Sep30084726@irondude.eng.sun.com> rickg@eng.sun.com writes:
> >
> >we've seen a lot of answers to this, and still nobody's
> >come up with the PANEL_LIST_FIRST_SELECTED and PANEL_
> >LIST_NEXT_SELECTED attributes....
> >
> ><<tank
> >
> 
> What are they??  Do they exist?  Are they documented??  What do they
> do??  Or are these just some more of the undocumented
> "features/enhancements/bugs" in XVIEW?

	They're in your O'Reilly XVRM 3.0 book on pages 92 and 94.  They
	are also available via Answerbook 1.3+

	I'd say that's documented, wouldn't you?

	Perhaps you're using the much, much older 2.0 version of XView?

	Frank G.
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From: brentb@montagne.Eng.Sun.COM (Brent Browning)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: disabling auto placement of windows
Date: 1 Oct 1992 23:50:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: brentb@montagne.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: montagne

In article y82d4t3@openlook.Unify.Com, fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco) writes:
>> > As far as I know, interactive geometry and placement are not specified as
>> > user interface options in open look and so the window managers do not 
>> > supply those features.
>> 
>	Use olvwm.  Here's part of the man page.

   Or V3 olwm, unfortunately you can't specify the position for the box:

     ShowMoveGeometry (boolean)
          Indicates whether the  geometry  box  should  be  shown
          while moving windows and icons.  Default value: false.
 
     ShowResizeGeometry (boolean)
          Indicates whether the  geometry  box  should  be  shown
          while resizing windows.  Default value: false.



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
From: nh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (nicholas.hounsome)
Subject: Re: OW3 version of dbxtool
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:38:24 GMT

From article <mdelaney.717637122@helios>, by mdelaney@informix.com (Unix Dude):
> In <340@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> 
>>Just copy your OW2.0 version of dbxtool over to the machine that is running
>>OW3.0.  It will work as well as it ever did :-)
> 
> Was this a joke?  It was hard to tell what your :-) was referring to 
> (as in did dbxtool ever work well).  I tried running the OW2.0 version
> of dbxtool with the OW3.0 libraries and it was hosed.  It looks like 
> the joke was on us... thanx Sun :-(
> 
> 					- Mark
> 
> -- 
> Mark A. Delaney                  mdelaney@informix.com
>                                  [pyramid|uucp]!infmx!mdelaney
> #include <disclaimer>            (415) 926-6369

You will need to have both versions of the libraries available
in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3953 comp.sys.sun.apps:2056
From: mdelaney@informix.com (Unix Dude)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: OW3 version of dbxtool
Keywords: dbxtool OW3_deliberately_crippled
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:38:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In <340@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:

>Just copy your OW2.0 version of dbxtool over to the machine that is running
>OW3.0.  It will work as well as it ever did :-)

Was this a joke?  It was hard to tell what your :-) was referring to 
(as in did dbxtool ever work well).  I tried running the OW2.0 version
of dbxtool with the OW3.0 libraries and it was hosed.  It looks like 
the joke was on us... thanx Sun :-(

					- Mark

-- 
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                                 [pyramid|uucp]!infmx!mdelaney
#include <disclaimer>            (415) 926-6369
From: furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Re: MSWORD vs WP for Windows?
Date: 27 Sep 92 08:14:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Sep27.081448.4191
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

In article <1992Sep26.053608.1481@nctams1.uucp> tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) writes:
>So, after all the hype and hoopla, which is better?  
>
>--Tom
>
>UUCP: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj
>ARPA: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj@nosc.mil
>INET: tomj@pnet16.cts.com

Depends...

If your looking for fewer bugs and more iterations in the
environment, the MS-WORD takes the blue ribbon by a long shot. If
your looking for features, then pick the one  that gives the most
warm fuzzies...

The question you should really be asking yourself is :

"Which one fits my style of work best."

To answer that one, you have to sit down and drive them yourself
for a while and make that determination. Without going into a lot
of gory details, they both have the same main types of features,
with some differences. The religious ones will quote details
ad-nauseum to convince you otherwise. Unless you have a specific
need that only one of these packages will fulfill, it's really 6 of
one, half dozen the other.

I prefer WORD, because it does all the things I need, and it fits
my work style much better than WordPerfect. That's not to say
WordPerfect is bad, just that in my SUBJECTIVE evaluation of the
product, I have determined that it is not for me.

Hope this helps...

...Paul

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
From: tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins)
Subject: Re: Tseng ET4000 Drivers?
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 07:16:05 GMT

tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) writes:
>So, now that I have the hardware, where does one go to obtain the drivers for
>Win3.1?  Perhaps some kind soul can e-mail me copy?
>
>--Tom
>
>UUCP: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj
>ARPA: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj@nosc.mil
>INET: tomj@pnet16.cts.com

And even after that, which setting would be right for a ET4000 w/1M ram for
256 colors?

--Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.ms.programmer
From: stevesi@microsoft.com (Steven Sinofsky)
Subject: Re: MSC 7.0 C++ MFC MDI help me please!!
Date: 05 Oct 92 01:07:27 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <67070@cup.portal.com> JP_Getty_AHIP@cup.portal.com writes:
>I want to create a MDI child that does not have the styles WS_CAPTION
>WS_SYSMODAL WS_MINIMIZEBOX or WS_MAXIMIZEBOX.  MicroSoft says these are
>hard-coded into MFC.  If you can help, please respond. 


This can be done, though the resulting program will only run on
Windows 3.1 (it takes advantage of a new 3.1 feature) and will
be fairly non-standard.

In your MDIFrameWnd's OnCreate member function, where you
usually cal the default implementation of CMDIFrameWnd::CreateClient,
just do this yourself, adding the new MDI style, MDIS_ALLCHILDSTYLES.

Then in your derived CMDIChildWnd classes, just specify a style when
you call CMDIChild::Create.  Note that using this feature you must
specify a style or nothing will appear (i.e. MDIS_ALLCHILDSTYLES is
forces the default style to be 0, which is not really valid).

This code is a snipped copied from the default implementation
of CMDIFrameWnd::CreateClient.


BOOL
CMyMDIFrameWnd::CreateClient(LPCREATESTRUCT /* lpCreateStruct */, 
	CMenu* pWindowMenu)
{
	ASSERT(m_hWnd != NULL);
	
	CLIENTCREATESTRUCT ccs;
	
	ccs.hWindowMenu = pWindowMenu->m_hMenu;
	ccs.idFirstChild = AFX_IDM_FIRST_MDICHILD;
	
	// These styles specify the MDI frame window, the MDIS_ style is
	// for the mdi children windows that will be created
	if ((m_hWndMDIClient = ::CreateWindowEx(0, "mdiclient", NULL, 
		MDIS_ALLCHILDSTYLES | WS_VISIBLE | WS_CHILD | WS_CLIPCHILDREN, 
		0, 0, 0, 0, m_hWnd, NULL, 
		AfxGetInstanceHandle(), (LPSTR)(LPCLIENTCREATESTRUCT)&ccs)) == NULL)
	{
		TRACE("Warning: CMyMDIFrameWnd::CreateClient: failed to create MDICLIENT\n");
		return FALSE;
	}

	return TRUE;
}
-- 
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stevesi@microsoft.com
Disclaimer: I don't speak for Microsoft, BillG does that.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,news.groups
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Comp.windows.reog (Re: What in the world happened to this group?)
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:00:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.045430.13552@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
> I step away for about 2 days and see 2 dozen or more MS DOS related quests
> here.  Did someone rmgroup the msdos windows groups?

Nope. We just underestimated the stupidity of MS-DOS users.

I think it's time for a grand reorganization, here's my proposal:

> comp.windows.garnet	The Garnet user interface development environment.
	comp.gui.garnet
> comp.windows.interviews	The InterViews object-oriented windowing system.
	comp.gui.interviews
> comp.windows.misc	Various issues about windowing systems.
	comp.gui.misc
> comp.windows.ms		Window systems under MS/DOS. [Obsolete]
	BOOM
> comp.windows.ms.programmer	Writing apps for MS Windows. [Obsolete]
	BOOM
> comp.windows.news	Sun Microsystems' NeWS window system.
	comp.gui.news
> comp.windows.open-look	Discussion about the Open Look GUI.
	comp.gui.open-look
> comp.windows.x		Discussion about the X Window System.
	comp.x.misc		/* X is not a GUI, remember :-> */
> comp.windows.x.announce	X Consortium announcements. (Moderated)
	comp.x.announce
> comp.windows.x.apps	Getting and using, not programming, applications for X.
	comp.x.apps
> comp.windows.x.intrinsics	Discussion of the X toolkit.
	comp.x.intrinsics
> comp.windows.x.motif	The Motif GUI for the X Window System.
	comp.gui.motif
> comp.windows.x.openlook	Same as comp.windows.open-look.
	BOOM
> comp.windows.x.pex	The PHIGS extension of the X Window System.
	comp.x.pex

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.lang.c++
From: pete@genghis.borland.com (Pete Becker)
Subject: Re: Turbo Vision
Originator: pete@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:18:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.151958.7992@ucc.su.OZ.AU> maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.200317.9278@genghis.borland.com> pete@genghis.borland.com (Pete Becker) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep22.191402.2352@ucc.su.OZ.AU> maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller) writes:
>>>
>>>	If you examine TV you'll see there's no string class, yet char*
>>>is used in many places. If you think about it that means such classes
>>>cant be copied, assigned or destroyed properly. Have a look at the
>>>way TDialog constructor works, its parameter is a list formed by + ing
>>>new'ed items together. What would happen if one of the items was static?
>>>Who knows?
>>>
>>
>>	In fact, an early internal version of TV did have a String class.
>>Turned out it was pretty useless, and introduced extra overhead every time
>>it was used, although the reference-counted version removed most of this
>>overhead.  But look at how those char *'s are used: almost all the time you're
>>passing around a char array that was passed to you in the first place.
>>Nothing is gained by using a String class.  Don't abandon C's efficiency just
>>to use some clever new tool!
>
>	Oh, please, can I quote you ?
>
>	"Nothing is gained by using a String class"
>

	Not without complete context.  We were, after all, talking about Turbo
Vision.

>My string class is my MOST useful class. It far outweighs all others.
>It does something magic: it works. Reliably. I cannot run off the
>end of a string, have a dangling char*, or any other such error.
>My strings are first class objects (use Copliens Orthodox Idiom).
>

	I agree, there are many situations in which a good String class is
a godsend.
From: JP_Getty_AHIP@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: mdi test
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 92 14:19:10 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)













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From: rrn@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert R. Novitskey)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Diamond Stealth
Date: 6 Oct 1992 15:27:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I have a diamond stealth video card with 1mb ram on board and
8 meg in my computer.  Upon invoking windows, it takes 15-20 
seconds to load windows.  Is this normal?  I have a 486DX-33.
-- 
"Today is the tomorrow you
  worried about yesterday....
    Now you know why"

Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,news.groups
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Comp.windows.reog (Re: What in the world happened to this group?)
Followup-To: comp.windows.misc,news.groups
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:40:09 GMT

Peter, I think this is a great idea.  Let's get this thing settled once
and for all!  
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From: ron@sigyn.cs.athabascau.ca (Ron Haukenfrers)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Re: Tseng ET4000 Drivers?
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:53:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: sigyn.ron.718386793

>tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) writes:
>>So, now that I have the hardware, where does one go to obtain the drivers for
>>Win3.1?  Perhaps some kind soul can e-mail me copy?
>>
>>--Tom

If you have access to FTP, the drivers are on ftp.cica.indiana.edu
under the directory /pub/pc/win3/drivers/video/w31et4.zip


They do work well under 1024x768x256 mode as that is what I'm currently
running on my machine.

See you in the funny papers :-)
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From: leary@progress.COM (James Leary)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:41:31 GMT
Organization: Progress Software Corp.

rrn@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert R. Novitskey) writes:


>I have a diamond stealth video card with 1mb ram on board and
>8 meg in my computer.  Upon invoking windows, it takes 15-20 
>seconds to load windows.  Is this normal?  I have a 486DX-33.
>-- 
>"Today is the tomorrow you
>  worried about yesterday....
>    Now you know why"

You probably need the new drivers for the board (V2.0).  I believe you can
find them at ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the /pub/win3/uploads directory - the
name of the file is stlwin31-V2.exe - it is a self-extracting PKZIP file.

Good Luck.

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From: mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu (Mark Stankus)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Small business programs?
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:30:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.38968
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mathematics @ UCSD

Hi,

I am posting this note for a friend. Please send e-mail to me
(mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu).

What kind of programs are there out there to manage a small
business? (I know, a spreadsheet -- but more is probably
needed). Here is the situtation:

     Low cost is important. Nothing big and fancy (no scanners
     or big time hardware).

     The store sells used sporting goods (both
     consignment and not).

     Keep track of inventory (what is on the shelf,
                              when were things sold,
                              how much profit was made)
                     
     Since the store is used, the inventory changes often.
     If something is there after a specified number of weeks,
     it would be nice to have the program beep or something.

     etc. etc.

Thanks in advance.

Mark Stankus
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
From: int704v@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham)
Subject: Re: Pif settings and the high memory area
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:42:08 GMT

magid@ocf.berkeley.edu (Paul Magid) writes:

>My computer is strange.  Ever since I installed my GENOA (Do not buy from this
>crappy company) 8800 I have had the mouse on drugs problem.  The only way for 
>me to solve this is by checking the "Uses high memory area" check box in all
>the pifs of the dos boxes I run.  Now my question  is: can I make the "uses 
>high memory area" option globally the default so that if I start up a dos 
>program that does not have a pif I will not see the infuriating mouse bug.
>In other words I am looking for a win.ini or system.ini setting that will
>solve this problem.

>Thanks a ton in advance.


>Paul

Any DOS program that does not have it's own PIF file will use the _DEFAULT.PIF
file in your windows directory.  Set the option in this file, or create it
if it doesn't exist.

Mark
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
From: gfini@nyx.cs.du.edu (Gianluca Fini)
Subject: ATI ULTRA
Summary: ATI ULTRA Graphics
Keywords: ATI
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:07:56 GMT


I own an ati graphic ULTRA. I received the drivers for Win3.1 dated
22/4/92. I also have cristalfonts drivers.
But... this drivers are not complete....I do not have the driver for
1280x1024 res. and the cristal fonts for 800x600.
Thi8s drivers are also quite slow.The ati ULTRA should be very fast!

If someone has new drivers please mail to
 tbra380@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it (131.175.6.2) 


tHANKS IN ADVANCE

Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
From: tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins)
Subject: MSWORD vs WP for Windows?
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 05:36:08 GMT

So, after all the hype and hoopla, which is better?  

--Tom

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ARPA: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj@nosc.mil
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: What in the world happened to this group?
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:52:02 GMT

I step away for about 2 days and see 2 dozen or more MS DOS related quests
here.  Did someone rmgroup the msdos windows groups?

alt.toolkits.xview	The X windows XView toolkit.
alt.x-windows.bugs	Just like it sez.
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy	Speculation and debate about Microsoft Windows.
comp.os.ms-windows.announce	Announcements relating to Windows. (Moderated)
comp.os.ms-windows.apps	Applications in the Windows environment.
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	General discussions about Windows issues.
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc	Programming Microsoft Windows.
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools	Development tools in Windows.
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32	32-bit Windows programming interfaces.
comp.os.ms-windows.setup	Installing and configuring Microsoft Windows.
comp.sources.x		Software for the X windows system. (Moderated)
comp.windows.garnet	The Garnet user interface development environment.
comp.windows.interviews	The InterViews object-oriented windowing system.
comp.windows.misc	Various issues about windowing systems.
comp.windows.ms		Window systems under MS/DOS. [Obsolete]
comp.windows.ms.programmer	Writing apps for MS Windows. [Obsolete]
comp.windows.news	Sun Microsystems' NeWS window system.
comp.windows.open-look	Discussion about the Open Look GUI.
comp.windows.x		Discussion about the X Window System.
comp.windows.x.announce	X Consortium announcements. (Moderated)
comp.windows.x.apps	Getting and using, not programming, applications for X.
comp.windows.x.intrinsics	Discussion of the X toolkit.
comp.windows.x.motif	The Motif GUI for the X Window System.
comp.windows.x.openlook	Same as comp.windows.open-look.
comp.windows.x.pex	The PHIGS extension of the X Window System.


Nope - they all appear to be there - not the comp.windows.ms but the
comp.os.ms-windows groups!
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Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
America Online: lvirden@aol.com
Xref: sparky comp.windows.misc:1531 news.groups:18703