From: st883250@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (KALIBAK)
Subject: Re: Thor vs. Spidey
Reply-To: st883250@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:45:26 GMT

In article <92105.142317U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.141143.55868@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
>(CEDRICK KIT CHAN) says:

       [much deleted rumblings about the new Thor]   

>>    Now I implore you to take the true Thunder God out of that stupid garbage
>>bag in Hell!!
>
>Eric is a human being, and thus has all the emotional baggage of the particular
>human being his is.  He's divorced and has a son he misses very much.  He wants
>to reconcile with his wife, and if you happen to have A FUCKING PROBLEM WITH
>SOMEONE WHO HAS HUMAN FUCKING PROBLEMS RATHER THAN "OH HOW THE FUCK AM I GOING
>TO CASH IN ON MY MYTHOLOGY THIS WEEK" THEN FUCK YOU!!!!
>

A couple of things, really.

1) Grow up. Mindless vulgarity used in grossly immature confrontationalism has
stigmatized comic books (and comic book readers). Don't feed the wrong fire.

2) Just because the character is oozing with angst and personal problems (a
_first_ for a Marvel hero :) does not make the book more interesting. Although
I am not a member of the "Lynch DuhFalco=Hitler" brigade, his writing is
extremely sub-standard. The plotting is miserable at best, especially with
this entire Thor-in-hell-Eric-Masterson-is-Thor-now-Thor-Corps-what-have-you.
His dialogue is childish ("Dargo my man, let's hear it for...TEAMWORK!!!!").

3) Ron Frenz artwork is...there. I've seen worse. I've seen a lot better. 
Perhaps he should stop idolizing (read: swiping) Kirby and develop his own
style further.

4) I am _not_ a big Thor fan. I read most of the Simonson run, and picked up
a couple of recent Defalco-Frenz issues to see what the hoopla about the new
Thor. They were ungodly awful.

>Donald Blake sucked.  Sigurd Jarenson was cool 'cuz Simonson handled him as
>trying to ADJUST TO LIVING WITH HUMANS!!!!

5) I am not a big Thor fan. I am, however, of the old school that is convinced
that any character, no matter how banal, can be wonderfully written provided
that there is a _good writer_ present. Look at Morrison's run on Animal Man:
fantastic stuff. Compare it to Tom Veitch's. Ugh. Or Morrison's Doom Patrol
vs. Ostrander's (or was it Kupperburg? I alaways mess them up.). Hell,
look at PAD's Hulk, for crying out loud. Now there was a dead-in-the-water
character! And if you had told me ten years ago that today I would be 
reading four weekly Superman titles, I would have died in uncontrollable fits
of laughter.

>Beat off butt brain...

 Beat off butt brain? Ouch. Take it easy. Relax. Why don't you sit and
do your coloring book until you cool down?

>                   ....You and you stagnation are choking me.

  Unforuntately, Defalco's writing and your apparent level of maturity are 
smothering us with incompetency. In the future, when someone presents an
opposing opinion on a  _comic book_, don't take it as a personal vendetta
against your family or whatever. Your fevered rantings detract from your
credibility.

>
>Doug.

"Beat off butt brain..." <sheesh!>


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M. JOTHAM MILLHEISER                              ST883250@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU
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pleases or irks thee; but thou art a blockhead."  -- Boccaccio
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