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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:39:34 CDT
From:         Bill Oppel <S70762OW@ETSUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Home Is Where The Heart

Uma Thurman was the youngest daughter,  it was the oldest daughter that
was doing the paintings.  Uma Thurman was the model for the oldest daughter's
school project at the beginning of the movie.  Crispen Glover is also in the
movie.




                                 --  Bill Oppel
From: C47805NF@WUVMD.BITNET (Rick Francis)
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Subject: Grifters scene, audio tapes,...
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:25:10 GMT
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Anjani asked for reactions to the scene in The Grifters with Cusack &
Bening.  I wasn't sure how to read that one either, but at the time
thought he was being the safe con man:  he's getting info from Bening,
doesn't commit himself, merely utters the appreciative sound that will
keep her telling the story.  In other words, the con man *is* still
(always?) acting, and there's no reason for him to question her on the
amount they are taking in.  Smoothest thing is to go along.

But it certainly doesn't seem to be heartfelt awe, because he's playing
along, and the attentive viewer (like Anjani) will notice Cusack isn't
really being sucked in (yet) or antagonistic.  In fact what Cusack
really wants to get out of Bening is what happened to her long-con
partner, which she doesn't want to talk about.

Incidentally, I recommend reading Jim Thompson's 1963 novel The Grifters.
A lot of that stuff in the film about Myra/Bening being a sort of visual
substitute for Roy/Cusack's mother/Anjelica is really in the novel, but
in a more subtle way.  The movie really brings out all the Oedipal triangle
stuff, with pronouncements by the old grifter/father figure Mintz (you know,
law of the father and all that) coming through Roy's feverish dreams.  Er,
maybe I'm boring you all.  But I thought it was a clever neo-noir twist:
like Chinatown did with incest, Grifters takes another taboo (son-mother
instead of father-daughter) and foregrounds it.  Let me know if you
want to yak more on this.

Rick Francis
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:48:45 CDT
From:         Carol Slingo <slingo@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: La Tarea synopsis
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              at Aug 13, 92 7:05 pm

Thanks!
Carol
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From:         Jennifer Porro <BL.JMP@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Woody Allen

REPLY TO 08/18/92 13:21 FROM CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET "Discussions on all forms of
Cinema": Re: Woody Allen

Oh dear, I don't think Dan Quayle is going to like this.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:10:03 CDT
From:         Carol Slingo <slingo@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Mexican comedy
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              becarios" at Aug 12, 92 2:02 pm

>
> Hi all!       <------Another boring comment From Arex------>
>
>     This is to all of you, mexican film fans out there. I'am glad to
> inform you that the movie called "La Tarea" (the homework), a Jorge
> Humberto Hermosillo film, has been released. From my point of
> view, I think is an exelent movie. It's part of the new era
> of mexican cinema. So don't miss it. It's a great comedy. It has
> been a while since I laugh so loud in a mexican film in these
> days, with the exception of the film "La Risa en Vacaciones"  <---
> ---- as a comment, this film is not really a movie, is like
> hidden camera, makeing "actors" of real people.
>
> Bye, till the next one. ADIOS!
>
> Manuel Fernandez (Arex)
>

Would you please give a short plot summary?
Thanks, Carol
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:41:00 EDT
From:         Peter.Giordano@WILLIAMS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Dr. Strangelove novelization
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I'd like to see some verificationof kjf version of the saga of the
STRANGELOVE script since the author of the novel worked on the screen play
and since the novel is given credit on the screen I doubt that could have been
any questions about plagiarism, but who knows ?
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:39:00 -0500
From:         ed.j.hahr@UWRF.EDU
Subject:      Re: Hot Shots
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              13 Aug 92 19:10:00 +0100."
              <9208131738.AA08727@enterprise.acc.uwrf.edu>

Other paradies in Hot Shots..

Diner
The Godfather.

ed.j.hahr@uwrf.edu
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:45:46 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Alan Rickman quote.

I think you're right about the movie this Alexander quote comes from, in
which case it would be the original "Die Hard."  (I'll check it when I get
home, and correct myself if I'm wrong.)  --Strange, but I can't find the
source of the quote itself, though I've heard it elsewhere, too.  There
_is_ one from Plutarch, but that's to the effect that upon hearing how
many "worlds" there were, Alexander wept because he hadn't yet conquered
even one.  You can find that in _Bartlett's Familiar Quotations_ or a similar
reference work under "Alexander."

Jeff Clark
James Madison Univ.
Media
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:46:01 EDT
From:         "Kenneth R. Jackson" <PUPAPKJ@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hot Shots
              13 Aug 1992 13:39:00 -0500 from <ed.j.hahr@UWRF.ED U>

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:39:00 -0500 <ed.j.hahr@UWRF.EDU> said:
>Other paradies in Hot Shots..
>
>Diner
>The Godfather.
>
>ed.j.hahr@uwrf.edu

Really????? Which scenes were these in?
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:34:53 PDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Joan Crenshaw <3714P@NAVPGS>
Comments:     Originally-From: Don McCreary <mccreary@PX4.STFX.CA>
From:         Joan Crenshaw <3714P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject:      Bladerunner

Don,
  I thought it was an Asimov story, but I've been wrong before.
              Secure that I have a 50-50 chance,
                              Joan
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Who wrote the story that Bladerunner was based on (i.e., DO ANDROIDS DREAM
OF ELECTRIC SHEEP)?  Was it Harlan Ellison?

Don
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:18:28 -0500
From:         ed.j.hahr@UWRF.EDU
Subject:      Re: Hot Shots and Rutger Hauer
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I have no idea why I used the "ramifications" in my previous post.
Sorry if the sentence confuses or annoys anyone.

The previous Rutger Hauer movie is SPLIT SECOND. It is a rip-off from
Alien where Rutger Hauer plays a cop IN the future (not from it).
Besides some nice directing techniques and a very genuinely funny
moments, this one was pretty boring.

ed.j.hahr@uwrf.edu
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From: aku@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Chia-Tso Ku)
Subject: Re: Idiot
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:52:27 GMT

Two years ago, David Henry Hwang (M. BUTTERFLY) spoke on campus
and mentioned that he was writing a screenplay of The Idiot
for Martin Scorsese.  I'm not sure if they are still going ahead
with the project.

Andrew
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:28:05 CST
From:         Rick Francis <C47805NF@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      Ubiquitous incest

Funny thing about incest-- when you start looking for it in literature,
it seems everywhere.  Forget the Greeks and Freud for the moment, and
just think of New World literature. Once you read Hawthorne's notebooks
(memorable details about his daughter's little bum in the air, and how
it bothered him), you see it in Rappaccini's Daughter and elsewhere.

Then it's used allegorically, sort of, in Melville's _Pierre, or the Ambi-
guities_.  It's all over Faulkner (think of Absalom, Absalom!), and in that
fabulous remake of Absalom by Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude.
(yes, I did that to stir up comment).

It's in Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter too.  And according to some on this
list, you'd have to say it was in Nabokov's Lolita, right?

And that's before we even get up to Alice Walker and Carolivia Herron (sp?).

Oh, wait, since I mentioned Faulkner, gotta stick in the Joyce:
sure enough, you get the father-daughter incest mentioned in Ulysses, with
"Papa's little lump of love.  Bedpal."

It ain't New World, but it's clear enough, eh?

Rick Francis <C47805NF@WUVMD>
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From: MKERBEL@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: viewer survey/end credits
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 12:49:00 EDT

In article <01GNGH1BKKOW8WW0NY@SNYONEVA.BITNET>
FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET writes:
 
>
>When we show KANE here for film courses, which we do virtually
>every semester, we explain to the students & guests that the
>credits roll at the end, that we expect everyone to keep their
>seats until house lights are up, and that, just to remind them
>should they forget, assistants will be posted at each door to
>see that they aren't opened.
>
>They think we're kidding. We're not. Sometimes there's trouble
>-- as in "Hey dipstick, I got a Constitutional Right to leave..." --
>but word will eventually get around that here they will do it
>right, or go elsewhere.
>
>kjf-
  I think your idea is excellent, if you can get away with it.  Now, how do we
deal with students who fall asleep during films?  I think that the Ludovico
Treatment might be appropriate.
 
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:53:00 EDT
From:         "Mike.Simmons" <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Total Recall (almost)

As I've said before.  I do enjoy working in a library!
The book, science fiction novel (not short story), titled _Total Recall_, was
written by Piers Anthony.  It was based on the short story by Philip K. Dick
titled _We Can Remember it for you Wholesale_. Anthony's novel is not a
novelization as best as I can tell or at least not the way I would define a
novelization.  The book, of course, goes into much greater detail with the
"discovery" of what is found on Mars.  Makes for a more plausible and less
cryptic movie if it is read first.
Mike
MSU.
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Woody's woody, & the cabana boy
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:57:10 GMT

In article <CINEMA-L%92081819150495@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> C47805NF@WUVMD.BITNET (Rick Francis) writes:
>
>I guess it's pretty obvious that any problems he has stem from his
>misunderstanding of Joyce and Faulkner.  But then, you all knew that, right?
>
>Wait, if she's 21, and she isn't a blood relative... this isn't necessarily
>a relationship one can condemn, is it?  Consenting adults, breaking up with
>Mia, so it isn't cheating, sort of...
>

It is inescapably the moral equivalent of incest...he was essentially
her father since she was 9 or 10.  

Gerald


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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:42:41 EDT
From:         Anjani Chandra <QAI@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      Movies, political spoilers, and people getting upset

Scott, (& anyone else I made upset)
I am not really sure what you meant by your post about getting
"this crap off cinema-l."  I do know that I did not post what
I posted to make people angry.  Others on the list had recently
posted little tidbits like it (or so I thought).

At any rate, I for one will be happy to stick to movies.
If you were, in fact, referring to my comments about MOVIES,
and not to my listing of child poverty rates, then I guess I
don't what you mean at all ... and I suppose we'll never see
eye to eye about what belongs in this list's discussion.

--Anjani
From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
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Subject: Re: Psychologist having sex with clients
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:52:53 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <01GN9L1K4KF48WWUYR@clust1.clemson.edu>, EFHALL@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU writes:
> Last fall, on a long car trip with my husband, we listened the audio book,
> "I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings," which was narrated by its author,
> Maya Angelou.  It was quite a moving experience because Maya was talking
> about true life experiences from her childhood.  We drove for several
> hours without saying a word to each other, just clinging to the words
> spoken by a truly gifted writer.  We arrived home before the book was
> over, and we sat in the car for 30 more minutes just to hear it all.
> I highly recommend it, especially if you like Southern writers.
> 
> Elizabeth--Clemson


I'm new here. just jumped in today.  Can you rent these audio books?
All these comments have made me want to try one.  Do they ....uh..
"read" the book to you?
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:54:00 CDT
From:         Jan Levine Thal / JHR / 262-4867 <THAL@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Movies + a 'political spoiler' at the end

No, I really meant the violence of the two men's relationship which, I felt was
set up as a parallel to the one character's occupation as a hit-man/soldier of
fortune for the junta.  The relationship not only arrives at a bizarre and
bloodletting and then necrophiliac-ish (pardon me, I'm an editor by trade so in
my off time I make up words) finale, but as it evolves is increasingly
emotionally violent and (as I recall) fairly explicitly gay.  I have to admit i
saw the movie when it came out, haven't seen it since, and reviewed it for a
local radio station which gave me about 2 minutes.  In two minutes one can say
about 500 words, which usually do not include anything terribly incisive.  And
that's talking pretty fast. As a result, all of my responses are rusty. So if
I'm wrong, I apologize.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:31:55 EDT
From:         "DORIS--RM. 3876--X-3151" <CHAPPELLE@RSO.DNET.GE.COM>
Subject:      RE: RUTGER HAUER
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MIKE,

I ADMIT THAT I HAVE BEEN REMISSED AND HAVE NOT SEEN DEADLOCK OR ESCAPE FROM
SOBRIBOR.  THEY ARE DEFINITELY ON MY LIST OF MOVIES TO BE SEEN.

DORIS
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:13:00 EDT
From:         "Mike.Simmons" <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      SOTL insomnia

Kjf...
Couldn't agree with you more about the "good doctor". Salad did you say? I
imagined BBQ.
Mike
MSU.
From: GWILLIAM@UGA.BITNET (Gayle Williams)
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Date: 13 Aug 92 15:48:12 GMT
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Even though I recently responded to the viewing survey about the annoying
of habits of other movie goers, I remembered there are times when I
do want other people around me at the movies, chatterboxes or not.
When Pscyho III came out, I went to see it in one of Albuquerque's remaining
single movie houses at a 5:00 matinee on a weekday.  Once I got my goodies
at the refreshment stand, I went in, took a seat and waited for the film to
start.  As it got closer to 5:00, I realized that I was still the only person
seated.  This was a big, cavernous theater, and I started feeling spooked
to think I'd watching on my own.  I was really ready to go out and beg one
of the concession stand staff to join me when some people walked in just
as the lights went down.  Even though there must have been under ten of us
in that great big place, it still felt reassuring and I enjoyed Psycho III!
Gayle Williams
University of Georgia Libraries
From: ST701445@BROWNVM.BITNET (Ho Lin)
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Date: 18 Aug 92 21:40:21 GMT
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    Yes, I agree on LW - Clancy as compared to Bond movies. I suppose what I
meant is that these movies have taken the place of Bond flicks in some major
areas -- box office attention, "sequels", gadgets, espionage, outrageous action
sequences, etc. But are they as witty/sophisticated/entertaining as our favor-
ite spy? I don't think so. But I guess that moviegoers seem to prefer the LW -
Clancy stuff nowadays. The things that make the Bond series distinctive -- the
relatively measured plot development, the time spent soaking up exotic locales,
the double entendres and nonchalant elegance -- seem to be lost on today's audi
ences. Perhaps it's just un-PC to endorse a bourgeois hero. Of course 007
hasn't been helped by MGM's troubles, not to mention the fact that some of the
more recent entries have been under par.
    Then again, maybe people just find Mel Gibson-Alec Baldwin-Harrison Ford
more stimulating than Timothy Dalton...

[Ho Lin (ST701445@ Brownvm.edu]
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:04:51 EDT
From:         Gayle Gleason <ST402486@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Apartment Zero

My memory of  Apartment Zero may also need refreshing, but at the time,
I interpreted the relationship as one between a charismatic person and
a person who idolized him...kind of like the way cliques in elementary
school and high school are built, there is usually a leader that the others
want to be like or want to be with 'cause then they're 'cool'.

So I didn't read any sexual connotations into their relationship....maybe
that's simply an indication of how naive I can be.

 --Gayle
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:42:14 EDT
From:         Anjani Chandra <QAI@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      Books on Tape

About books-on-tape, someone recently asked if they can be rented and
and if someone "reads" the books to you.  The answer to both is yes.
Here's where I do my PSA for public libraries ... The libraries
where I live and work (Baltimore and Hyattsville, respectively) are
excellent and have huge and wonderful selections of FREE audio and
visual materials.  I'm almost positive that libraries near you have
good collections as well.  I can't see buying a book-on-tape unless
you really know you're likely to listen to it multiple times.  It
is not as weird as it may sound to have someone read a long novel,
especially a so-called classic, to you.  Not only does it bring
back fond memories of childhood (bedtime stories & school
story hours) for me, but also I just love the sound of the words.
Generall, they get pretty good actors and actresses to read the
stuff, so they bring all of their "emoting & elocuting" skills to
it  I've enjoyed _listening_ to books I've already read, such as
the Jane Austen stories, because Flo Gibson does a terrific job
capturing the spirit of every character.  Plus, I've gained an
appreciation for several writers whose works I've never found the
time to read.  (I'm still searching for the elusive, and no doubt
3-week long unabridged version of Vanity Fair.  I think it would
be delightful ... and a public service since virtually no one
has that kind of time anymore.)

So I guess I'm not so subtly saying:  I RECOMMEND these things!

--Anjani
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:04:00 EDT
From:         Gene Yu <ST801634@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Prez candidate movies, Bob Roberts

>Posted on 20 Aug 1992 at 12:23:02 by Rick Francis
>
>Anybody know anything about the upcoming Tim Burton movie, Bob Roberts?

It's not a Tim Burton movie, but a Tim Robbins movie.  He started the
character for Saturday Night Live a while back, and revived him for this
movie.  Robbins directed it and stars in it.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:14:00 EDT
From:         "Mike.Simmons" <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      H Ellison

Perhaps Ellison's "less than nice" disposition comes from his eating his
self-proclaimed favorite diet of curry spiced monkey brains and extra crisp
french fries! (read on the back cover of the paperback edition of the
"Essential Ellison")
Mike
MSU.
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From:         Jennifer Porro <BL.JMP@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      Prez candidate movies, Bob Roberts

REPLY TO 08/20/92 09:20 FROM CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET "Discussions on all forms of
Cinema": Prez candidate movies, Bob Roberts

I read that BOB ROBERTS is written by Tim Robbins and stars him -- he
plays a right-wing congressman.  Gore Vidal plays a seasoned liberal
senator.  I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a "wicked satire," as
they say.

Jennifer Porro

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From:         Currie Thompson <cthompso@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU>
Subject:      RE:Prince of Tides

In Message Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:33:04 CDT, C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET writes:

> The thing that killed me about this movie is that it
>has so many great touches to it, so much realism;  and yet the
>overall picture was so out of touch with any reality that I have
>ever seen.
>
>And Streisand's character...unreal...talk about unprofessionalism.
>
     I too was disappointed in this film.  And what disappointed me most is
that, in fact, it begins with a moving and realistic portrayal of people
living in a part of the south--and degenerates into garbage.  When I look
back the film, which I saw months ago, still frustrates me.  It started so
well.  And ended so badly.
Currie Thompson
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From:         "Mike.Simmons" <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Naked Lunch <yum-yum>

Jim "film from literature" Smith....
A book which I found insightful and gave the "real life" parallel to -NAKED
LUNCH- is  "Dream at the end of the world: Paul Bowles and the literary
renegades in Tangier", New York: Harper Collins, 1991, by Michelle Green.  She
offers a fascinating portrayal of life in the International Zone in Tangiers
from the period shortly after WWII up to the early 60's when the ruler of
Morrocco reclaimed it. Great photos of Burroughs and others.
Mike
MSU.
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