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From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Organization: Metro History
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 10:59:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.003020.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:

[discussion of Dezful historic scenes deleted for brevity only]

Hi Desert Man, Ali jAn:  (I got it right this time. :-) )

>I am sure there are LOTS of you that perhaps never have had the opportunity to
>travel around our beloved country and realize that we have got of the BEST 
>nations in the world... And perhaps you should share the uniqueness of
>wherever you come from so that we each of you gets the opportunity to travel
> across Iran would look forward to it...

Good point.  I can relate to your point.  One of my goals after finishing
school in Iran was to travel around the country to learn about its various
people and their cultures and traditions.  Well, I didn't live to finish
school in Iran.  So perhaps we could share some of these cultural and
historical waves (as in ocean of knowledge) here at sci.

So I have a question probably from 'khoon garm' khuzestanis people again.  Do
you remember 'pol-e dokhtar?'  Was it somewhere in khuzastan or lorestan?
I vaguely remember my late brother used to tell me that it was the bridge
that linked khuzestan to its neighboring 'ostAn.'  Did it also have any
historical significance in ancient Persia?

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: student@water.agen.ufl.edu (Login For Student)
Subject: Daste Khaste
Reply-To: student@water.agen.ufl.edu (Login For Student)
Organization: U of Florida. Engineering Computing Support Facility
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 13:05:02 GMT

Ah, daste khaste be ghalam gereftam o dar vasf-e yar sad ketab neveshtam,
   Aey kash yar ghalam az dast meegereft o do khatti dar vasf-e ma meenevesht.
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:30:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw4JEF.K2M
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

One thing that SHOOSHTARIs repeat all the time is

EESOO

What does it mean?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yussir@que (Yussir Arafat)
Subject: Re: Hello again!!!==>Amir Taheri
Reply-To: yussir@que
Organization: Free the arabs
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:39:32 GMT


:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)


	Shalom!
From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:15:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Masoud's pathetic response
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian

In Article <massoud.126.718473337@chemteca.sdsu.edu> massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami) writes:

>>Seems like you are a little frustrated yourself!  Is this how you
>>answer all women you don't like?  Your sleazy sexist attitude
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I never saw a sugar that I didn't like!
>Playing with people's faith ain't a joke!

Oh, I see- just the one's play with people's faith.  Well, I already agreed
that attacking and ridiculing a religion is wrong.  But we were hoping that the 
"faithful" could come up with a better answer than:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I want you to breath in people who have lost their will to live, give them
a new challenge,let them stand up and glorify you".

What I meant needs few substitutions;
breath in = blow in (it is a job);
[it is for the ones who have LOST];
stand up = rise up;
and allow them to glorify you, heck you may deserve a mercy f%#@.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

As I mentioned before, this attitude stinks, and I trust it does not
represent the "faithful". Instead, it represents the "scumbags" like 
yourself. 


>>be ashamed of yourself!  People like you allow us all to see the mentality
>>behind the regime's policy of raping young girls before they are executed.
>>What a bunch of pathetic bastards!
>
>I left Iran in 1975, now people know how youre kind get their information.
>The rest weren't worthy to replay!
>
What the hell are you saying?? Write in English for the benefit of us all.
I left Iran much later than you did, and if you don't believe me, it just
goes to show how much you follow what's going on.  And what exactly is
"mye kind", Mr. know-it-all genius?? And your "replay" cannot be any better
than your previous posts, anyway.

>>May all your dairy products rot,
>>
>>Agha Javad
>>(We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone)
>
>[Price subject to change according to customer's attitude]

You're no customer of mine, but you sure do have a scummy attitude!

>
>Peace and Prosperity!
>  ---==< 110 >==---

Sure, sure .....

Agha Javad
(See above)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: assist@unocss.unomaha.edu ( )
Subject: Akhound Rafsanjani and women
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:13:17 GMT


  
	``The weight, sturdiness, voice, growth, muscle quality and
	physical strenght... differences in men and women show that
	men are stronger and more capable in all these fields...
	Men's brain are larger... Men incline toward reasoning and
	rationalism, while women tend to be emotional. These 
	differences affect the delegation of responsibilities, duties
	and rights.''

							 Rafsanjani
						         _Ettela'at_
						         June 7, 1986


The above represents the anti-woman views of the so-called
"moderate" president of the backward Khomeini regime. This
akhoundism view is the reason for insults and encroachments
on women's right and the regime's malicious arrest,
persecution, public flogging, and imprisonment of thousands
of free-thinking Iranian women.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: umbehrou@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mehrab Behrouzian)
Subject: Any body from Qum here?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:55:04 GMT

Tankx.
Mehrab
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: CCMAHTAJ@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Subject: Silence
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 08:39:51 CDT

After reading some of the disheartening and disappointing articles
in sci lately, I find it appropriate to post this piece from one
of my favorite poets Khalil Gibran. This one is about 'talking' (or
typing, if you wish) and parts of it are very befitting to the
character of some of the recent posters. I hope we can all learn
something from it.
 
 
And then a scholar said, Speak of Talking.
And he answered, saying:
You talk when you cease to be at peace
with your thoughts;
And when you can no longer dwell in the
solitude of your heart, you live in your
lips, and sound is a diversion and a pastime.
And in much of your talking, thinking is
half murdered.
For thought is a bird of space, that in a
cage of words may indeed unfold its wings
but cannot fly.
There are those among you who seek the talkative
through fear of being alone.
The silence of aloneness reveals to their eyes
their naked selves and they would escape.
And there are those who talk, and without
knowledge or forethought reveal a truth which
they themselves do not understand.
And there are those who have the truth within
them, but they tell it not in words.
In the bosom of such as these the spirit dwells
in rhythmic silence.
When you meet your friend on the roadside or
in the market place, let the spirit in you move
your lips and direct your tongue.
Let the voice within your voice speak to the
ear of his ear;
For his soul will keep the truth of your heart
as the taste of the wine is remembered
When the color is forgotten and the vessel is
no more.
 
 
Sincerely,
Mahtaj Khamneian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: keivan@brahms.udel.edu (Keivan Esfarjani)
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:35:05 GMT

In article <Bvz982.M0w@ucunix.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas) writes:
>this interchange between hooshyar and keivan is making me gag! what is this
>hi hooshyar jan, salam kaivan khan, and all variations of it back and forth
>back and forth like a teniss game. you guys make me want to puke. i bet you

Don't you know what "tA-Arof" means, bitarbiat?
HooshyAr AghA jAne-aziz, what is it with these people?
They can't handle kind words :-)

>guys drink tea with your pinky finger  sticking out! you guys probably eat

My pinky doesn't stick out only when I am drinking tea.

>tofu ice cream and like to use the phrase "pompous ass" also! 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                             ^^^^^^^^^^^
 Never heard of such things!

>(for all of my fans out there who are willing to jump on me for the littlest
>things, that was a joke)

Sorry Zafar Gholi khAn, we can't take this stuff
especially when they come from you.

>zafar 

Regards,
K1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Steven.Kolins@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: The Baha'i Faith has been mentioned here...
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:40:10 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science


      The Baha'i Faith has been mentioned here as being part of the MKO.  This
is shear imagination.

      I am a Baha'i.  I am well informed of the Faiths actions on many
levels - as can any Baha'i who seeks to be informed.

      I have never heard of the MKO 'till a friend from this discussion
group asked me about our involvement.

      The Universal House of Justice, the ruling and Holy governing
institution of my Faith, declares Baha'u'llah's teaching, as the Prophet
Founder of my faith, as total uninvolvement in anything partisan.  Baha'is
in the US are not allowed to be part of the political parties.  A Baha'i
friend wished to become chairman of his department in a western university
- something far more available than some extremeist organization.  He
openly questioned whether the process of picking the chairman was too
politically partisan. 

      The now six million Baha'is around the world and through our 150
year history have suffered martyrdom and social disentigration rather than
oppose a government - like Iran and the Soviet Union.  To imply that
Baha'is participate in this kind of activity shames their memory. 
Baha'u'llah, who lead a life of oppression when Hitlers abominations were
clumsy attempt at persecution, Who was banished repeatedly, Who suffered
deprivation for Himself and all His family, Who suffered that family's
near universal betrayal, claimed the only suffering He really was hurt by
was when a follower of His dirtied his Faith with deeds such as the MKO is
credited with doing. 

      Please divorce any mention of my religion with such organizations
and any others of any similarity. 
 
steven.kolins@bbs.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Historical evidence on Iranian women.
Originator: sehari@vincent2.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:31:03 GMT

---
Legends has that there was a king who mullah nasseradin was his close
advisor.  The advisor all the time warned the king about women and 
their intelligent politics.  These speeches little by little got to
the kings head, and he did his best to stay away from them. The king
wife, who was a very beautiful women, finally scream on his husband's
head that:

"Man, what the hell is wrong with you.  Why do not you make love to me?"

The king answered:

"There is this advisor of mine that always warn me about the dangers of
women."

His wife said:

"The guy is bullshiting, and he would do anything to be close to the
women"

The king said unbelievablly:

"If you prove this to me, I'll do want you want me to do"

The King's wife said:

"O.K. divorce me, and ask mullah to temporarily marry me, with the condition
that he won't have sex with me.  Then come visit us unexpectedly in the
night of marriage"

King did so, and mullah got married with the king's ex-wife with the
condition that they won't have sex.

The night of marriage, mullah said to his new wife:  "You are beautiful
woman and it would be such a wast not to enjoy your youth, let have
sex."

The wife said to mullah naseradin:

" Our marriage condition is that we should not have sex."

Mullah eagerly, insisted and insisted until the wife said:

"Oh, all right.  If you want to have sex with me, you should wear
the donkey's saddle and let me sit on the saddle, while you are
going walking like a donkey around the rooms in the house and making
donkey sound, too."

Shahrokh, oh I am sorry I meant to say mullah nassredin who was all smile
and happy accept his wife's conditions.

So, Shahrokh, oh sorry again mullah nasseradin was going around the
house with his wife sitting on the saddle behind his back and was making
donkey sound.

Suddenly, king came out of the door and saw the shahrokh, Opps I meant to
say mullah, at this situation. King said to the mullah:

"You always warned me to stay away from women.  Why you do not practice
 what you preach?"

Mullah said:

"See what women can do to you, that's why I always warned you to stay away
 from women"

Now, as Ferdowsi said:

Va On Roz ra Roz-e no khan-dand....

Since, that time Iranian women have learned  how to put the saddle
behind their husband's back....

                   With highest regards,
                        Babak   Sehari.

-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian.indian
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: India wants permanent U.N. Security Council seat
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:28:13 GMT

jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>India should not be asking for a seat in the security council. It should drum
>up support for the abolition of this (Security Council) highly oligarchic and
>undemocratic structure.

>--Javed

I second that. Abolish this group of bullies, especially ones that
have veto power over the collective voice of more than 100 other
nations. The sec council is one way of silencing the voice
of the third world for ever, withou appearing to do so! - ganesh
.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mthompso@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Mojgan Thompson)
Subject: gifs of Iranian Scenery Wanted
Organization: NASA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:52:51 GMT

Speaking of gif files, does anyone have any gif files from Iran, i mean
scenery type of stuff?

Please email to mmt@harris.com, since I barely get a chance to read news
nowadays.

Thanks,
-Mojgan
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:31:40 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

In article <BvrI8C.466@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
> michaelm@titanic.esd.sgi.com (Mike Mohageg) writes:
> 
> 	[...Stuff deleted...]
>
> A Shushtari trivia:
> 
> What is Azeeyyah?
> What is Zoghaal?
> What is Pakhshah?
> 

Ala Agha, those are actually, Dezfeely! not Shushtari... :) and now for the
meanings:

``Azeeyyah'': Has quite a few meanings... For example, it is used for cursing,
or for not believing something you just heard or shocking to you...

``Zoghaal'': The way you have written this word, I debated this to be either
Coal or you meant ``Sooghool'' a three wheel car used in the old days (I'm not
sure if some of you even remember the car :)

``Pakhshah'': Now that's a PURE Dezfeely word :)  It means fly... :)

BTW there has always been fights (as in rivalries) between the two neighboring
cities of Dezful and Shushtar for centuries now!  :)

Here are a few more... See if you can guess them...

	o  Oolaa	o  A`cheh	o  Le-Vaa	o  Kanee-saa
	o  Eelaa	o  Mooflangi	o  Harrysaa	o  Kelek
	o  Mi		o  Dolabb	o  ShavAdoon	o  Reet
	o  Shoomee	o  Sar Oo	o  Gajjdoom

>>-- MIKE
> 
> Ala

Ali...
-- 
Desert@ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Khomainie's Tomb Exploded
Originator: harrsen@rainier.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:08:35 GMT

I am delighted to report that, according to Mojahedin, three
bombs were exploded inside Khomainie's tomb yesterday. It
seems the tomb and surroundings were heavily damaged. I do
not have the details yet.  

Mobarak,

Asghar



Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Seyyed's view of exiles
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:25:16 GMT

In article <28600039@hplred.HP.COM> moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi) writes:

>You have quite a nerve making fun of people who love their country and were 
>forced to leave.  They ran away from your tyranny, and they certainly won't put 
>up with it here. All these years Iranian kids worked in restauraunts 30 hours a
>week and put themselves through school, and built up a massive debt, and the
>countryless IR wouldn't even acknowledge them as students!  Whether you like it
>or not, it is our country too.  
>
>
>Agha Javad

Farshid, you and lots of other people, are always welcome back to your country.
Just stop mocking people, and don't get involved in political issues. Keep your
opinion for yourself. How do you know, maybe you are really wrong! Don't
destroy all the bridges behind yourself. Stick to your field of knowledge and
try to build your country. Look, your country will not be built by accusing
its political leadership and insulting them in a foreign country. Don't choose
the easy way of just "objecting". Go to your country, and try to deal with
real problems, and try to be positive.

Seyyed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Naser Kherse)
Subject: Where in Colorado
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 00:23:27 GMT

Salam Dostane Azize Colorado              

I like to know where would be a good place to live in Colorado area.
Would you please send me your email information if possible ?.  

Mokhless dostane Colorado,  Naser.

afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: What to think?
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:31:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Oct15.053549.4459@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mkarimna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Melissa Karimnamazi) writes:

[ kind words about iranians deleted... ]

>     The  way in which conflicts and arguments in the news group were expressed
>came as a surprise to me.  
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

mellissa, im sure that by now you have noticed that they came as a 
surprise to a lot us iranians as well.

>P.S.  Perhaps it is because these exchanges are on a computer and therefore not
>as restrained as person to person???

thats a *huge* part of it.  the tendency in our culture is that if you
detect 'high order bit' philosophical and ideological differences
with someone, avoid getting into a face to face debate.  this is
especially true if your opponent is armed with an M16 whos barrel 
is firmly inserted up your nostril.  large-scale demonstrations are
are governed by different laws altogether.  200,000 iranians can scream 
'down with [fill in the blank]' with better harmony and syncopation
than the boston symphony chorus singing the halleluja.

this is why sci is a most effective medium for sharing ideas and discussing
topics from abba to zappa, ali to zeynab, andromeda to z-particles.  
unfortunately, as mojgan pointed out, there a few bad apples who due
to the impracticallity of whipping out their M16's on a network, they
opt for whipping out similarly shaped parts of their anatomy (in their
case, more like tiny, child-proof squirt guns).  others like to repeatedly
remind you of their personal and creative interpretations of quranic
verses, and how they 'clearly' give them the right to kill you if you arent
in complete agreement with everything they say.

personally i believe we're not doing too badly: 3 or 4 out of a
few hundred (possibly ks of) people isnt bad percentage at all.
remember, bacteria are harmful only in large numbers (tho we have
an active bunch).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Seyyed's view of exiles
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:58:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.153840.3995@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
>In article seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>|> 
>|>Farshid, you and lots of other people, are always welcome back to your
>|>country.
>|>Just stop mocking people, and don't get involved in political issues.
>|>Keep your opinion for yourself. How do you know, maybe you are really
>|>wrong! Don't destroy all the bridges behind yourself. Stick to your
>|>field of knowledge and try to build your country. Look, your country
>|>will not be built by accusing its political leadership and insulting
>|>them in a foreign country. Don't choose the easy way of just "objecting".
>|>Go to your country, and try to deal with real problems, and try to be
>|>positive.
>|> 
>|> Seyyed.
>
>
>What he means is,  be a SHEEP and do whatever your masters say.
>
>Baa aaa aaa aaa aaa aaa aa
>
>-- 
>         +----------------------------------------------------+
>        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
>       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
>      / Computer Science Department                        /
>     +----------------------------------------------------+

I am not suggesting EVERYBODY to stay away from politics. This is my sincere
suggestion to YOU, because you don't know how to play with fire and you'll
get burnt.

Seyyed.
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Get back to your homework Shahrokh!
Date: 14 Oct 1992 00:14:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Oct12.205914.13682@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>
>... before I get angry ...
	          ^^^^^

ooooh!  have i made the emaam angry?  well hazrate seyed, i sincerely
apologize from the very heart of my bottom :).

so full of hatred and ill will, and he's not even angry yet!

speaking of 'angry', heres another puzzle for you.  but this
time, open your eyes, read carefully, so you dont have to cry
foul later, and resort to spending hours creating totally new 
puzzle just to avoid saying 'i made a mistake'.

there are three words in english that end in 'gry'.  angry,
as you know personally, is one of them.  what are the
other two?

you have three days to find them.

awaiting your answer (or entertaining excuses as before).

(people, if you know the answer, dont spoil it!)

>
>Seyyed.