HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Wanted: Altair 8000 or Imsai 8080 and Modem
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 15:27:24 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg) writes:

> Seth L. Blumberg          \ Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap.
> slb22@columbia.edu (play)   \  Blumberg's Corollary: And the rest ain't so
> sethb@ctr.columbia.edu (work) \        hot, either.
>    > No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <


I'm just wondering... is it on purpose that it looks like:

And the rest ain't so hot either, least of all Columbia University

?

Daniel Max P. Drucker

=============== mertwig!xyzzy@jaflrn.uucp ==========================
#define slogan_1 Don't pick on me, I'm only 14.
#define slogan_2  Hey! Lets port it to COBOL!

Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!
Hi, I'm a .sig virus! Copy me into your .sig and spread the fun!
=========== uupsi!utoday!jaflrn!mertwig!xyzzy ======================
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: domain questions
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 09:36:21 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

lesmith@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lee Harvey Oswald Smith) writes:

> taft@adobe.com (Ed Taft) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Nov5.112527.5662@pollux.lu.se> magnus@thep.lu.se
> >adopted the convention of identifying countries with two-letter codes?
> >It certainly doesn't seem very user-friendly. Perhaps a concession to
> >some archaic database technology?
> >-- 
> Think about it. Would  *you* want to type .united_states or .netherlands or
> .australia at the end of an email address?

No. I don't think geography should have any part of addressing. I prefer 
to roam in cyberspace without knowing where i am!

Or having to know!

Daniel Max P. Drucker

=============== mertwig!xyzzy@jaflrn.uucp ==========================
#define slogan_1 Don't pick on me, I'm only 14.
#define slogan_2  Hey! Lets port it to COBOL!

Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!
Hi, I'm a .sig virus! Copy me into your .sig and spread the fun!
=========== uupsi!utoday!jaflrn!mertwig!xyzzy ======================
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:37:58 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alamo.intel.com
Keywords: game
Originator: smintz@alamo


Pong!!!
Stephen
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Keywords: game
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:46:45 GMT

dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard=) writes:

>What was the very first computer game?  When I say computer game, I mean a
>game that would not exist without the computer. (ex: ZORK, Adventure,
>Pac-Man, but not computer Tic-Tac-Toe or computer chess.)

If you limit the scope to games which became known outside of the shop where
they were written, Spacewar (on a brand-new PDP-1) probably comes in as the
first computer game intended primarily for entertainment.

I had to add that last qualification because there were several simulation
"games" in the 1950's which used (frequently electromechanical) computers,
but these were Serious Business products.  One in particular I recall seeing
was a naval battle simulator for DoD; I've got a picture somewhere of the
sequencer device: a rotary steper switch with what looked like > 100 poles
and perhaps 1000 positions -- it looks to be about 1' high and 2' in diameter.
*Not* the sort of thing you casually run during lunch hour.

Joe Morris / MITRE
From: esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Where did 'ethernet' come from anyway  was: Re: Correct pronunciation of 'ethernet'
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:54:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Back-References: <1992Nov6.031201.10870@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>

In <184137@pyramid.pyramid.com> Lon Stowell wrote:
>     I'd be extremely surprised if TNHD didn't have an entry for
>     same...so if it does, we can let Eric nominate a kicker...and if
>     it DOESN'T, then you get to kick Eric...  >:-)

      #    #                                  #     #
      #   #       #     ####   #    #         ##   ##  ######
      #  #        #    #    #  #   #          # # # #  #
      ###         #    #       ####           #  #  #  #####
      #  #        #    #       #  #           #     #  #
      #   #       #    #    #  #   #          #     #  #
      #    #      #     ####   #    #         #     #  ######
      
...there's no such entry.  However, I believe the "luminiferous aether"
etymology is correct.
 
>     [One of these days, I really ought to buy the thing...maybe when
>      Eric needs a new PC...]

Oh, foo.  New PCs aren't *that* cheap.   Yet...
-- 
					Eric S. Raymond <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban,talk.bizarre
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATMs for $$$$
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:39:29 GMT

In article <9211112318.18@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.183645.15704@tc.cornell.edu> mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:
>>In article <Mf0=nre00iUx8=Zlc8@andrew.cmu.edu> Samuel Roy Helwig <sh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>    ATM == Automatic Teller Machine
>>>                --Sam
>>Why, thank you Sam. I'm glad you cleared that up for us all.

>And all along I thought it stood for:

>	Atonally Tormented Mustard

>Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP

Hmmm.  Every time I step up to one I feel like I'm being ripped off by the
Atrocious Testicle Masher.

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Unix administration horror stories.
Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:08:37 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov9.184200.9733@newstand.syr.edu> wethater@rodan.acs.syr.edu (William E. Thater) writes:
>	Can anybody point me to a UN*X port or clone i can run on my
>286box at home? No I can't afford to upgrade to a 386 right now, so I'm
>stuck. Any hope? Please e-mail me at <wethater@mailbox.syr.edu>.

You might go have a look at the newsgroups comp.os.minix, comp.os.coherent,
and comp.unix.pc-clone.16bit.

The problem is that there are no *free* 286 unix packages like there are
for the 386 (386BSD and Linux).  The cost of buying the commercial
286 packages will roughly approximate the cost of upgrading your
system to a 386 (and then getting a free OS).  For example, you could
pick up a 386sx motherboard and 1Mb RAM for in the neighborhood of
$120 - $150 to drop into your existing system.  You will easily spend
that much on a 286 unix package, and you will still end up with an
inferior product compared to what's available for free for the 386.  If
you found used equipment the upgrade could be even cheaper.  


Paul Southworth                    |           ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 |         Political Archives in /poli
Information Technology Division    |     Writable incoming directory on:
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor  |         redspread.css.itd.umich.edu 

  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
From: wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: command abbreviation
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:28:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1de46gINNkps@early-bird.think.com>, sandee@Think.COM (Daan
Sandee) wrote:
> 
> In article <Bx9Jp0.3Du@dexter.mi.org>, jsr@dexter.mi.org (Jay S. Rouman) writes:
> |> In article <u734120.720953366@bruny> u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp) writes:
> |> >shades of the dreaded pip command of CP/M and DEC fame - this also was a
> |> >copy command which was pip <destination> <source>
> |> 
> |> I agree that the PIP syntax seems backwards, but in all fairness, you
> |> left out the equals sign.  It's "PIP destination = source".  It really
> |> isn't much stranger than "x = 1".
> |> -- 
> |> Jay Rouman  (jsr@dexter.mi.org  jsr@ais.org)
> 
> Actually, even longer ago, it was
>   pip dest <-  source
> where the left arrow was a valid character on KSR38s and other wild machines.
> 

Yeah, back when I was programming on a PDP-10 in the early 70's, about two
thirds of our teletypes (ASR33's mostly) had the back-arrow as the shift-O
character. PIP was not the only thing that used it: I saw at least one
ALGOL variant that used it for assignment.

-tony

>>usual disclaimer<<
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: taft@adobe.com (Ed Taft)
Subject: Re: domain questions
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:46:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.112527.5662@pollux.lu.se> magnus@thep.lu.se
(Magnus Olsson) writes:
>>> Yeah, ok, but did we ever get an answer to the question "Where is the
>>> master list of all these suffixes?"
>There was also a list posted on news.answers a few days ago.

Now that we've answered that question, can anyone explain WHY we've
adopted the convention of identifying countries with two-letter codes?
It certainly doesn't seem very user-friendly. Perhaps a concession to
some archaic database technology?
-- 
Ed Taft      taft@adobe.com      ...decwrl!adobe!taft
From: sandee@Think.COM (Daan Sandee)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: command abbreviation
Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:49:36 GMT
Organization: TMC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <Bx9Jp0.3Du@dexter.mi.org>, jsr@dexter.mi.org (Jay S. Rouman) writes:
|> In article <u734120.720953366@bruny> u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp) writes:
|> >shades of the dreaded pip command of CP/M and DEC fame - this also was a
|> >copy command which was pip <destination> <source>
|> 
|> I agree that the PIP syntax seems backwards, but in all fairness, you
|> left out the equals sign.  It's "PIP destination = source".  It really
|> isn't much stranger than "x = 1".
|> -- 
|> Jay Rouman  (jsr@dexter.mi.org  jsr@ais.org)

Actually, even longer ago, it was
  pip dest <-  source
where the left arrow was a valid character on KSR38s and other wild machines.

Daan Sandee                                           sandee@think.com
Thinking Machines Corporation
Cambridge, Mass 02142                                 (617) 234-5044
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Unix administration horror stories.
From: kraft@gac.edu  (Steven Kraft)
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:10:01 -0600
Reply-To: kraft@gac.edu

In article <160wTB1w165w@mertwig.UUCP>  writes:
>lennart@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Lennart Benschop) writes:
>> I installed Linux (a free Unix clone) from the SLS distribution.  The SLS
>
>Where can I ftp linux from?
>
>Daniel Max P. Drucker

As my .sig states below, tsx-11.mit.edu is one place to get it.  Another
is sunsite.unc.edu.

The easiest way to get started is the SLS (Softlanding Linux System) which
currently is Linux 0.98.  The latest kernel is 0.98PL4 and will be
available on tsx-11 in a short time.  

Have fun!

--
Steven D. Kraft            kraft@nic.gac.edu           Computer Science Major
Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN 56082              Ham Radio:  KE9RW
Linux: the free Unix clone for the 386.  Get yours today from tsx-11.mit.edu!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: chambles@whale.st.usm.edu (John William Chambless)
Subject: Re: UNIX documentation (was Re: Don't you hate it when...)
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:48:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.143803.60316@cc.usu.edu> ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!) writes:
>Besides, the Unix manuals are usually just hardcopy of the man pages,
>anyway...
>-- 
The Unix philosophy is the same as the C philosophy: Recursive learning!

Unix is simple, if you already understand it. And if you have to ask...
	you'll never know.


-- 
* Billy Chambless   University of Southern Mississippi, USA 
*   chambles@whale.st.usm.edu
*    
*   Programming exclusively in (--(C++))
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Subject: Re: \dev\nul THE REAL ANSWER (was Re: Men's Public Restrooms
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:42:08 GMT

In article <6533@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> harley@engrhub.ucsb.edu (Hahn)
writes:

>Riddle: Why does the DOS convention remind you of Christmas?

It doesn't.  It reminds me of COBOL.  Lots of reserved words.  :-(

Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
Forth love if honk then
From: hwt@bcarh11a.BNR.CA (Henry Troup)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: 8L
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:53:07 GMT
Reply-To: Henry.Troup@BNR.CA
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Nov4.052309.27957@news.columbia.edu>,
lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
|>
|>So, if they are to be treated as a museum, then why have they been selling
|>off some of the artifacts merely because someone decided they had "enough"
|>of certain types of modules, etc.?  As far as I'm concerned, this
disqualifies
|>them from consideration.

Many museums of archeology sell artifacts.  Real ones, with certificates
of authenticity.  For example, there are several tens of thousands of
Roman pottery lamps.  Literal shiploads of red Samian dinnerware.  When
artifacts exist in profusion, typical examples are often, legally, and
ethically, sold off.  Most museums can display only 10% of collections, BTW.

Selling artifacts a) raises money for the museums b) clears storage of a
lot of essentially identical objects (in the Roman cases, many
factory-made) c) provides a legal source, cutting into the illegal
artifact trade d) makes it possible for people to own attractive
interesting (to them) artifacts.

Lots of museums do it. Good ones, like the Royal Ontario Museum and the
Smithsonian.  Any museum that sponsors archeological digs, likely - you
know how many tonnes of artifacts can be found in a good dig?
                          
Henry Troup - H.Troup@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
	"It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for."
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Convergent Megaframe?
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:17:57 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Yes, there were really Megaframes with NO APs.  In fact, there were more
>Megaframes sold as cluster masters (w/o APs) than sold as Unix systems,
>with APs.

Hmm.  I asked John Mashey about that, and he thought at least 10-20% of
the Megaframes were sold as CTOS cluster masters, but it could have been
40%; was it really >50%?

>You were probably interviewing with the group that did the Unix for the
>Megaframe.

Yup.

>The Megaframe can be, and is, functional without the AP board.  It is
>not functional without at least FP and CP boards.  It's definitely not
>just a Unix (CTIX) system.

But were the Megaframes with APs and the Megaframes without APs treated,
by their customers, differently?

I.e., was a Megaframe with an AP treated mainly as a UNIX system with
auxiliary processors that did I/O functions, with most application
development being done for CTIX?

If so, then Megaframes-with-APs can't reasonably be considered to have
CTOS as their primary OS (any more than you can consider the instruction
set of the processor in an IBM mainframe channel controller or
communications controller to be the primary instruction set of an IBM
mainframe), although Megaframes-without-APs have it as their primary OS
if they have it as their *only* OS.  The "primary" instruction set, or
OS, for a machine is the one that most people developing code for it
see....
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: File versions and command abbreviation, was Re: Command completion
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:43:58 GMT
Organization: It's Home, really...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jeff DelPapa (dp@world.std.com) wrote:
> Some other versiong file systems come to mind - of course there is the
    Exec on Unisys(nee Sperry, nee Univac) 1100/2200 series mainframes has
versioning of files. There can be 32 (I think...) cycles of a file existing
at any one time, and can be addressed as absolute versions or relative to
the current cycle. So to create a new cycle of FOO*BAR. I'd do a
@CAT FOO*BAR(+1).  If the previous version was number 6, then I could refer
to it either as FOO*BAR(-1). or FOO*BAR(6).
--
 Liam Greenwood ------ liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz ------ Wanganui, N.Z.
                 Don't tell my Mother I'm a programmer,
               she thinks I'm a piano player in a brothel
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jbc@linus.mitre.org (John B. Campbell)
Subject: Re: Typewriter-printers (was Re: Wanted: ... and Modem)
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
	<1dtoelINNi23@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
	<1992Nov12.223313.24484@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <jcmorris.721664486@mwunix>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:31:24 GMT


I recall a 1960's modification to the Remington electric typewriter
that employed solenoids under the keyboard rods.  Driven by paper
tape, of course - a poor man's Flexowriter.  It required clever
timing (lots of rubouts punched in the tape to copy with the
carriage return.

One of our technical directors -- a mischief maker at that -- 
bought a kit that modified a standard office Selectric to 
print automatically.  He drove it from the office Rainbow
(in his office) and startled his long-suffering secretary no
end on a Monday morning when her Selctric started printing
on its own.  

The kit worked as advertised but they learned soon that the
office Selectric was no 2741 (the golfball printer of the
day, usually used for console devices.)  The 2741 was a
beefy machine, heavy, built to print all day and night.  The
Selectric mod lasted about two months before something gave
out and they had to put it to sleep.
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From: rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: proliferation of alt.adjective.noun.verb.verb.verb groups
Date: 7 Nov 1992 20:34:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, alange@rahul.net (Andrew Lange) says:

>Just recently, I tried a "grep '\(\.[a-z][a-z]*\)\1\1' .newsrc", just for
>fun, and this is what I got:
>
	[list of alt.adj.n.v.v.v groups deleted]
>
>Does anyone know of the history of this prediliction for naming groups
>alt.opt-adjective.noun.verb.verb.verb ?
>
>Which is the first one you saw? Have you ever created one?

	I have only been on the net for 2 years, so I hardly qualify
as net.god.  However, the word I hear from the bona fide net.gods is
that alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork was the first such group with
the triplicated verb.verb.verb.  For the Swedish Chef this is natural,
because he says "Bork! Bork! Bork!" as a matter of course.  I am also
told that this newsgroup formerly had a fair amount of traffic, which
has since been diverted to alt.tv.muppets.

	Perhaps someone from net.admin keeps stats on the creation
dates of newsgroups, which would definitively answer the "when" part
of your question.
-- 
Rich Drushel ** rfd@po.CWRU.edu *** Biology Ph.D. Student ** Cleveland FreeNet
Co-Sysop, Coleco ADAM Forum ******* EOS-5 / EOS-7 / OS-7 / T-DOS / soon EOS-8!
"Solda pung apfashat ro des-marno, / Marn ladir o armag noth yeni arno. / Hell
miryat it, / Jambo iat it, / Os lasse wei ticip kati baldo." / Old Ennish poem
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: value of a pdp-11,va
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:36:01 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <10NOV199217265962@rover.uchicago.edu> frank@rover.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <n0df4t@ofa123.fidonet.org>, Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.fidonet.org writes...
>>   I recently sold my PDP-11/03 with 512K and two RL-02 30 meg 
>>disk drives for $250.00 and my VT-200 for $25 (which I wish I 
>>hadn't). I'd say it depends on the -11. Is it a 70 with the cool 
>>purple front panel? Or a 45 that makes for a suitable anchor?
>
>	Considering the speed of a 45 versus an 11/03, and considering the
>	weight of a 45 versus a 70, it's strange that you refer to the 45
>	as the anchor. Ours was a fast, reliable machine. It was capable
>	of running a reasonable configuration off a single 15amp service.
>
>	70s are nice machines, but one of the few not really suitable for
>	most home use, due to size, weight, (urg, grunt,) as you drag it up
>	to the second floor or (thud) carry it down to the basement.
>
>	03s are nice for small operations, but didn't have the performance
>	(only because of floating point, but that really hurt.)

My father has always claimed that the 11/45 was shoved out of the way by
the 11/70, and that it wasn't allowed to reach it's full potential.  His
45 was serial number 21.

When he retired he had the chance to buy it, and now regrets that he didn't.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: command abbreviation
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:37:05 GMT
Reply-To: Arlie Davis <aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
Organization: University of Louisville

In some article slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg) writes:
> >>Actually, even longer ago, it was
> >>  pip dest <-  source
> >>where the left arrow was a valid character on KSR38s and other wild machines.
> >
> >Yeah, back when I was programming on a PDP-10 in the early 70's, about two
> >thirds of our teletypes (ASR33's mostly) had the back-arrow as the shift-O
> >character. PIP was not the only thing that used it: I saw at least one
> >ALGOL variant that used it for assignment.

> So, on those ASR-33's that *didn't* have the mutant shift-O, you would type
> 	pip dest _ source
> ?!?

For some strange reason, the X11 font called "variable" has a left arrow for
"_" and the up arrow for "^" (I think -- not sure about the caret).  Shades
of the C64!

-- 
lrwx------   1 aldavi01 emacsstu       9 Jun  6 12:43 .signature -> /dev/null
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Keywords: game
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:19:28 GMT

In article <BxF44y.9Kr@acsu.buffalo.edu>, dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard=) writes:
|> What was the very first computer game?  When I say computer game, I mean a
|> game that would not exist without the computer. (ex: ZORK, Adventure,
|> Pac-Man, but not computer Tic-Tac-Toe or computer chess.)
|> 
I'm pretty sure that the first game written for computers was Spacewar, written
for one of the early PDPs from DEC (PDP-1, -3 ?), a two-player game in which the
goal is to kill the other player without being killed :). Spacewar is still
around, someone wrote a version which runs under X.

Daniel Silevitch                                       dmsilev@athena.mit.edu
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers