HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Subject: Re: The Phish Rebellion
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:48:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.045447.26567@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> JTAYLOR@pearl.tufts.edu writes:
>To all you elitist net people out there:
>
> 	Hey man, I think I'm entitled to a little respect from you pseudo-
>worshipping foolish doggies.  I consider myself a true Phish fan, and I happen 
>to think that the phishnet (or however you weirdos spell it) is an almost
>pointless organization. What makes you so superior? 

I'd explain it to you but you couldn't possibly understand. 

> Do you doggies rock any harder during Weekapaug? 

Yes. 

> Do you yell out the Simpsons signal louder than I do?

Yes. -- D'Ohhh!! See?

>I think not. 

You're wrong. 

> I'm sure that a lot of you people are nice people, but I'm feeling
>left out, and it's just not fair!!!! 

You're right! It's better than fair -- it's fantastic!

> Are you the Phish elite? 

Yes, we are. 

>Are you more en
>aware of some Phishy aura or special vibe that I'm just not aware of? 

Yes. Very much so. 

> I don't think so! I think you're all crazy!  

Yes, we're all crazy. You are the only sane one. (Back away slowly, children...)

>I love Phish, god damnit! I'm not going to feel inferior anymore! 

I bet you will.

>I'll see all you freakazoids at the next show! 

What the hell is a freakazoid? Isn't that from a Jackson 5 tune?

>And I'll probably enjoy it more, because I know how to have fun, and I don't 
>consider fun spending an evening alone in front of my computer, typing away
>pointlessly at a dream that will never come true. 

Gee, Janice seems like I've seen a *lot* of posts from you. Are you having
fun yet? 

>Prepare yourself, netters.

Fetch my dart gun, boy....

>
>The Rebellion has begun.

We'd all love to see the plan...

>         Just call me...

Bet it's a 900 number... 
>                                 Janice          
>
>p.s.   dre- you're a weenie and a tool. Get a life.

What a nice thing to say! You're such a positive addition to the group.
>

Jeff, just another psychobabbling elitist pseudo-doggie, or whatever that
just-too-tragically-hip lingo was...

-- 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 21-Jan-1993 1805 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Tape->DAT->CD, Lions and Tigers and Bears...OH MY!
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:08:43 GMT

GRYMBLE GRUMBLE <williama@kenyon.edu> writes:

|Imagine it...heading to a show with mics in one hand and your
|portable CD recoder in another. After the show, you pop it into
|your deck at home and all of a sudden you are transported back to
|the show...again and again and again and again and :^) you get the
|point!

|I will wait for the day when the first netter gets his/her hands on
|one, the revolution will not be televised-it will be HEARD!

dude, for all intents and purposes, the day is already here; it's called DAT;
DAT sound quality is just as good as CD, since it uses the same coding 
algorithm; in fact, DAT can get better, because the format allows up to a 48 
kHz sampling rate (as opposed to 44.1 for CD), and there are up to 24 bits that 
could be used to record music (CD's only use 16), although i don't know if 
there are any DATs that use all 24 (perhaps the pro decks use 20; any dat-head 
know?)

anyway, the only advantage to CD over DAT that i can think of is random access; 
but since a good deck will rewind a 120 minute tape in about 30 seconds, it's 
pretty damn close to random access for me (you can encode start ids, so you can 
skip ahead to another track just as easily as on a CD, it just takes slightly 
longer)

- rich

p.s. the same praises do NOT apply to MD and DCC
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: CTBUZEK@stthomas.edu
Subject: alt. (NO PHISH CONTENT)
Reply-To: CTBUZEK@stthomas.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:40:05 GMT


Because I would suspect there are people out there who would know, and 
hopefully kind people at that, 
could anyone tell me how, as a digest type of fellow, i can get information 
on alt. prefixed stuff? (i.e. alt.mindcontrol)

Thank you very much.   May maddona never trip and fall on you while you are 
sunning yourself at the beach and she is wearing that pointy bra thing of 
hers.       Peace.    ctbuzek@stthomas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Mike formica <IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu>
Subject: Mike Formica to jack?(personal)
Reply-To: IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:49:25 GMT

Sorry to waste bandwisth on this but,
Jack, the I tried to email you directly, and the computer kapt blurting out
something about a missing semicolon, so I tried to reply to your message, and
the same thing happened. Please email me your snail mail address.
                                        Mike Formica
    ps-This is about the Orpheum show.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Subject: NYC bashing ( was  re: Dre's slaying.) 
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:53:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.141019.28936@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ajs@jloda.cci.com writes:
>|cohesiveness of the net together.  Growing up in New York and knowing how
>|vicious people can be about most anything I can appreciate how great the net is
>|and what a great service it provides so many of us who care about Phish.  Cut
>
>Hey, let's distinguish what New York is.  You're talking about New York City.
>The rest of the state is bad, but not that bad.  Although, I think 
>Rochester did have a higher per capita murder rate last year, than NYC!
>

Sheesh! Even Al! What is with this NYC bashing!? There is good and bad 
*everywhere*, people. NY has an incredibly high population density --
this often makes the highs higher and the lows lower. If you think NYC
is so bad, stay away! I've met some of the nicest people I've
ever met in NYC, from NYC. And you know what? Brace yourselves, I've
met people that were really not nice at all and they *weren't* from 
NYC, so there.

Jeez, You characterize NY as "bad" ?? Kind of a sweeping generalization,
don't you think?? 

Hopefully, Al was at least half joking.  You want to talk about hell on
earth? Don't get me started on Syracuse ... :-)

I'll take Manhattan...
Jeff .  

-- 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Henry Petras <petras@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Subject: status and origin of My Friend, My Friend
Reply-To: petras@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:36:49 GMT


Glad to be posting again. Have had several interesting 
events in my life recently. Had a great time on the Fall
Tour , especially St. Michael's, Albany and Portchester.
Looking forward to the upcoming spring shows. 

During the Portchester shows, I was discussing My Friend, 
My Friend with Tom Marshall and he mentioned that it came from
a thank you note that he had written to his friend Dave thanking
him for the knife that he gave Tom for his wedding. I found
that to be a highly origin considering the tone of the song.

While catching up with digests, I noticed some interesting discussion
regarding "Fast Enough for You." All I can add is that sometimes
it is helpful to place things in a larger perspective. I have to say
that I really enjoy this song. I am amazed at the beauty and 
simplicity of a line like, "I'd be happy just to watch you age."
A note on Fast Enough is that the original line was "And everything
is within its own diminion," rather than "And everything is in its
own dominion," which sort of changes things drastically in the 
time-space continuum. 

Cheers!

Henry
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Rift from Noteworthy
Reply-To: brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:41:13 GMT

  I got the latest Noteworthy catalog yesterday, and they 
have Rift listed for $12.05. I can order it now and it will
be on my doorstep by Feb. 3! Love it! Has anyone asked
record stores how much it will cost? 
                          -Brian
 
brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
From: b4562@moncol.monmouth.edu (JUSTIN BLACK)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Taping
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:32:31 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.phish

To all of those in Gamehenge who have ever taped a Phish Show.
I was wondering if there was a place to plug our decks into an electrical
outlet.  Extra rechargeable batteries for DAT's are over $200.  


                    I looked into the finance box just to check my status,
                                  Justin
email me at b4562@moncol.monmouth.edu
  
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Bruce Willner <brucew@ivy.ee.cornell.edu>
Subject: Cassette Head Cleaners?
Reply-To: brucew@ivy.ee.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:23:36 GMT

I just bought a new tape deck, and may get a second soon so I've
decided its time to get a new head cleaner and demagnetizer.  The
problem is, I don't know anything beyond what I read on the packaging.

Here's what I've read or I'm assuming:
I should buy one of those electronic head demagnetizers built into
a tape.
Most audiophiles go with the wet cleaning systems and the handheld
swabs.
'Discwasher' claims that it is superior because it does dry cleaning
but does not use the "sandpaper strategy."  It does not explain
how it works but to say its patented.  They state that the wet
cleaners are bad for the rollers in the deck, and will make them more
likely to eat tapes after using them for a while.
A friend of mine has a Discwasher and says it doesn't work very well
so he's going to buy something by Allsops (sp?).

Anyway, you can see this is one area of audio in which I know very
little.  I think its probably best to go with one of the manual
wet cleaners, but I don't know if the different wet cleaners are very
different or not.
Please help, I'm confused.

Bruce
<brucew@ee.cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Joseph Collins <collins@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: 5/25/88 and Janice (yes, YOU!!)
Reply-To: Joseph Collins <collins@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:36:14 GMT

Hey everyone,
    I just got a copy of 5/25/88 (with a full length Whipping Post), and
I'm a little confused about how the setlist is labled.  My tape is listed
as follows:

        side A:              side B:
set 2                        LaGrange
     Whipping Post           Fee
set 3                        etc...
     YaMar 
     Halley's Comet
   
     Is this correct?
  
And Janice:
      Who flamed you to begin with?  What gives you the right to flame all
of us for no reason?  Your immaturity is clearly displayed in your blatant
use of profanity.  If you are so convinced that we are all just "computer
geeks", "foolish doggies", "freakazoids", or even "dickheads", then why
participate in phishnet or go to Phish shows to begin with.  I suggest
that rather than spending your time flaming us, you find something that
will be more important in your life than Phish shows.  DON'T PARTICIPATE
IN PHISHNET if you are going to criticize those of us do participate!!!
  
And Shelly,
    you had no problem flaming DRE for his comments; don't you think
Janice's comments warranted a "flame from above". 
 
                  -Joe

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: TAHRENS1@ithaca.bitnet
Subject: harmonica jams
Reply-To: TAHRENS1@ithaca.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:21:56 GMT

Hi...a while back, somtime before X-Mas somebody asked if there
were any recordings/shows with a harmonica player.  The only time I
have heard them play with a harp player was at the second to last show
at The Front on 5/11/91.  At the end of the first set they had a friend
of their's from Burlington come out and jam with them during You Enjoy
Myself.  I can't remember his name but he is in some Vt. band....As
far as I could tell, I was the only person who taped this show.  It was
over 21 and not very crowded.....The next night was much better anyway,
but that jam was good and so was the tweezer sandwich which was fairly
new at that time.  When did the tweeze reprise start?  The first one
I saw was at 4/22/91 UVM....Anyone know if that was the first? See Ya!
                                                                      Todd
From: gt6779c@prism.gatech.EDU (CARR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: PHISHshirt
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:40:07 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

KUDOS to Matt Laurence!
The 1993 PHISH T-shirt is awesome.

speaking of which, call this karma, luck or something coincidental but:

I recieved my PHISH Tshirt on the 20th.
I am 20 years old.
My birthday is on the 20th 
and I only had 20 dollars in my wallet.
is it coincidental?
Has anyone had this same suspicious thing happen?

I am looking forward to PHISH in Atlanta
( which is also on the 20th (feb) )   hmmm.

BTW, for anyone interested , the Roxy venue holds 1500.
With room to jump up & down in front ( also a small balcony ).

All hail the guelah papyrus!
See ya'll there!

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Subject: PLease Advise me
Reply-To: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:27:47 GMT

I just read a day or two ago that Phish will probably
be in San Francisco on March 27&28. I am in Seattle and
that is about a 10 to 11 hour drive. I have decided to
make the road trip with a buddy of mine, but I am unsure
what I should do about tickets. I WILL NOT drive all the
way there without tickets, and hopefully the phone number 
to buy them will be postesomewhere. Well the point of this
post is this, Should I buy more than those two tickets,say
four. This would be so any netters who needed them could 
email me and I would gladly sell to them for what I paid.
Or I could take them with me and sell them there, again for
the exact price I paid. Maybe this can be nettiquite or 
something. Seems to me the show may sell out faster if all
of us were to buy four tix, but atleast we would all know
it is going into phriendly phlippers instead of scalpers 
claws. Sorry about bandwidth!I'm 2^3-Colin 

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: sesh@leland.stanford.edu
Subject: Janice.Net
Reply-To: sesh@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:58:01 GMT

Hey, does anybody know if there's a signup for the Digestified list of the 
Janice.Net??  I feel like I'm only skimming the surface of Janice's feelings 
and what other people think about them.  I mean, I really want to see, line for
line, her posts dissected and responded to.  I just don't get the same feeling
of erudition when I see the responses in two or three sentence blocks.  
	Possible subjects for further exploration:
-My friend John: 
	Is he OK?
	Was it that little ripped up type confetti or those longer ticker-tape
	streams??
	Multi-colored? Paper or shiny plastic?
-Brucie:
	What's his deal?  And what's his beef with Trey? 
	Possible therapy suggestions?  Or has he joined the Nineties backlash
	against self-help?
-Spiked shoes:
	Ferragamo or Joan and David?
	Patent Leather or Suede?
-What does everyone else think about Janice?
	Are some people offended?
	Is everyone going to keep this silence up? (Silence=Death by spiked 
	heels)

John

Sometimes I feel like [I want to know more about Janice's] whipping post...
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: rwood@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Robert J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: DC
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:07:31 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Hey all--
	Anyone know if the show in DC is sold out?  If not, does anyone
have the # for Ticketbastard?  Thanx...
		Brett
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "LAUGHING AT MYSELF" <leaf@kenyon.edu>
Subject: rift cover
Reply-To: leaf@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:58:28 GMT

Howdy all,  Here's some interesting news.  A friend of a friend of mine is an
artist.  He had some postcards made up of his art work.  He decided to write to
Phish on some of these post cards.  They liked his art work so much that they
asked him to do the cover to Rift.  They sent him the lyrics to all the songs
and some tapes of live versions (not the actual album recordings).  The result
is very cool.  The picture is all blue and involves many things from the songs. 
Our friend, the dreamer, is on an unkempt bed which on top of a maze.  On his
night table there is a knife and in his mirror are the words to It's Ice
written backwards.  It's really cool.  Can't wait till it comes out.
				Matt Leaf
P.S.  How do I get in touch with Noteworthy to order their catalog?  I'd like
to have Rift delivered to me the day of it's release.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Scott M Sandler <71271.3721@compuserve.com>
Subject: Question, and Grovel
Reply-To: 71271.3721@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:53:45 GMT

Hey There!  Just A Question and a quick tape grovel....

QUESTION:   Could someone please give me some information about noteworthy,
such as how to order, and if it's possible from Canada????

GROVEL:  Could anyone who has a copy of Phish 12-12-92 please leave me a
message....It's very important that I find a copy of this show...THanx



Thanx Again
Scott M SAndler


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 23-Jan-1993 0147 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Grovel for Whipping Post
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:54:42 GMT


Eric Budke (budkee@unvax.union.edu) writes:

|When was the last time Phish played Whipping Post and was it any good?

i have a tape from Middlebury College (i think it's 12/5/91) where Fishman
sings and plays guitar on Whipping Post, and, it's the most god-awful
rendition of Whipping Post that I've ever heard; Fish may be a good drummer,
but i'll refrain from evaluating his talents as a singer, guitar player, and
trombonist (even thought he is once introduced as "the second best trombone
player in all of Vermont, and parts of New Hampshire"

- r
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: PEANUT HEAD <ST701596@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: PHISH-REQUEST
Reply-To: ST701596@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:33:32 GMT

HELLO PEOPLE, ER PERSONS.


       PLEASE MOTHER MAY I GET INTO THE NETWORK NEWSLETTER INFO THING?

              I PROMISE NOT TO SEND ANY JUNK MAIL AND I REALLY LIKE TO WRITE
                                                         BLUES LYRICS.

          AN EXAMPLE:       (THE BIG BEETLE BLUES)

              I WOKE UP THIS MORNIN
              MY MOUTH WAS SUPER DRY
                I WENT TO REACH FOR MY WATER
              BUT WHEN I DRANK ISTARTED TO CRY


              CAUSE THERE WAS A BEETLE IN MY WATER (A GREAT BIG BEETLE)
              YES THERE WAS A BEETLE IN MY WATER (A BIG BIG BEETLE)

              SHE WAS FLOATING IN MY WATER
              SHE KISSED ME ON THE LIPS
              I ASKED HER WHAT SHE WANTED
              SHE SAID "A BOWL OF SALSA AND CHIPS"

              WELL THERE WAS A BEETLE IN MY WATER (BEETLE BEETLE BEETLE)
              A GREAT BIG BEETLE IN MY WATER (OOH YEAHH)

               [FADE OUT]                THANK YOU.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: NYE Tree?
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:03:28 GMT

RE-POST the NYE Tree fif it has been posted please.. or could someone please
let me know if it has/hasn't been posted already?

Thanks

-Noah
--
Noah Cole		"Outside is America,		     NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
Macalester College	and also the car park"	            ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
St. Paul, MN 55105    	- Bono, 27 December 1989      cncole@coos.dartmouth.edu
612-696-7388 		 	Dublin	            aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: HCCLARK@cc.owu.edu
Subject: LET'S GET PHUNKED UP!!!!!!
Reply-To: HCCLARK@cc.owu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:30:33 GMT

	Hey All!!!!!  I'm posting for a few reasons!!   First, I just
learned in my Geography class that Papyrus was a reed found near the nile 
in Upper Egypt!!!  I'm sure someone posted this trivial fact already, but
I figured there is nothing wrong with kicking this trivia around at your
next party or concert :-):-).
	Also, I have the urge to tell everyone on the net that I am really
psyched to be on the Phish.net for the upcoming tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although I don't have any plans to see any shows, I'm not that upset 
because the Phish.net will update us on the setlists, comments on thw
show, venue, crowds, the band, the sounds, the lights, and smells of a
wonderful event!!!  AND I CAN'T WAIT TO READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's going to be great!!  We, as a community, are extremely fortunate
to have this computer technology in our own hands so we all feel like we
are part of something very unique and special!!   Everyone I've met 
through the net has the done their best to keep good relations with me
so we can continue the wonderful hobbies of trading tapes, pictures, 
setlists, etc.  And I thank everyone for that!!!
	The point I'm getting at is, I think that sometimes when things
get tense on the net, we, as a community, should take a step back, take
a loooooonnnnggg deep breath, and think about what we have accomplished
as a group of people.   Once you all think about the benefits of the net, 
it is easier to think about the fun aspects of it, and that we should all
keep our differences behind us, and think ahead.  It's not much fun to
dread on things that have already happened.  Lets think about how great
Phish will on their next national tour.....AND GET PHUNKED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	Later On!!!!         --->Hadley<----     :-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Davis, Matthew" <DAVISM@dickinson.edu>
Subject: Grovel.
Reply-To: DAVISM@dickinson.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:41:52 GMT

I hate to have to do this, but here we go. I would like to get my hands on as 
many tickets as possible for the show in DC. I was unable to see PHISH at all 
during their fall tour, and this will be my only opportunity to see them this 
tour. I can pay whatever the cost is for the tickets plus any charges. I 
would also be very happy to supply anyone who can help me with some juicy 
tapes from the Fall tour and also the NYE show. I would really appreciate any 
help. Thanx!
                                 -Matt Davis
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Scott M Sandler <71271.3721@compuserve.com>
Subject: Roseland Shows
Reply-To: 71271.3721@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:48:14 GMT


Does anyone know if the Roseland shows in New York are sold out yet,
and also the number for ticketmaster in New York....

If it is sold out, and anyone has extra tickets...I would love to
hear from you....

THanx
Scott M Sandler

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: GG7875%SHIP.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu
Subject: Phish.Net
Reply-To: GG7875%SHIP.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:32:00 GMT

Hello Phish Phriends.  I have just recently joined the Net and was not to
clear on how to work things, until Shelly sent me a message explaining how
thing work.  So this is my first posted letter.
I was wondering if there
was anyone out there who maybe enlighten me with a better copy of Gamehendge
The copy I have isn't the best copy and it gets hard to understand at times.
I need to get a hold of "Andy" (sorry I don't even know your last name).
Andy posted a letter saying he wanted a tape with scarlet=>eyes (by Phish
of course), and I have a wonderful tape with scarlet=>fire(hendrix)=>fire
on the mountain from Nactars in 1984.  So Andy if you read this call me again
at 717-532-1069, and anyone else who may be interested in it.  Well I guess
that will be all for my first posted Net.  Take care and you'll alll hear
from me Again.
                            -Geoff Gabriel