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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Colorado get Caller ID.
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:09:01 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <C0pp01.1Dqt@austin.ibm.com> dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman) writes:

>     The best gauge of consumer opinion is how they vote with their
>dollars, not with their words.  If Colorado's first-day results can be
>generalized to other areas, then John Higdon is quite correct that the
>PUC decision in California gives the voices of a few more weight than
>the desires of the majority.

The desires of the majority are NOT sufficient reason to trample the
rights of the minority.  Unless the phone company is willing to have a
mechanism to have a phone NOT send Caller ID by default (no more
inconvenience than dialing the regular number), this is a bad idea.
Oddly, when this is proposed, the phone folks suddenly decide that
Caller ID isn't worth doing.  

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Social Security
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:35:17 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1993Jan3.023138.3594@rpp386> jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II) writes:

>In article <1993Jan2.153828.4513@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>In other words, there is so much 'fuzz' on your number that it isn't
>>meaningful. 

>So, while those numbers might be pretty meaningless, they are
>meaningless in my favor, not yours.

So which direction *IS* in 'my favor', John?  I sipmly pointed out
that there were so many uncertainties in the way you were playing
those numbers that it simply wasn't real meaningful.  You appear to
have elected to impute a position to me from the simple fact of my
having made that observation.  For all you know, 'my favor' *IS* 'your
favor'; that wouldn't stop me from obvserving that your numbers
contained such large uncertainties that they were pretty much
meaningless. 

I think that it is here that we arrive at what has been and probably
always will be 'the problem' -- you insist on imputing 'enemy' status
to anyone who disagrees with you or points out errors.  So, tell me,
John.  Other than my perviously oft stated position that we should
abolish Social Security, only accepting commitments to pay out to
people who are too close to retirement to change their plans and
funding those out of the general tax revenues while stopping this
mandatory removal of funds from people and employers to fund it, just
what direction is 'my favor'?

-- 
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 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Clinton has won...watch your pocket!
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:05:20 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1993Jan6.061043.20273@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>In <1993Jan5.155953.29678@digi.lonestar.org> gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes:
>
>>and the sheer momentum of the Bush economic recovery may carry Clinton
>>over to easy reelection in 96, no matter how much of our children's
>>money the Democrats spend on institutionalized compassion.
>
>The WHAT?  If you can categorize the recovery as "the Bush economic
>recovery" (even though he did absolutely ZERO to change what the
>economy was doing), then it seems like you have to blame him (and him
>alone) for the recession, as well.  I've noticed that conservatives
>are typically pretty loathe to do that.
>
>-- 
>"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
> in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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>Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.

I just said that to get a rise out of you.  The liberals are already claiming it as
their own.  The fact is that the economy will probably recover for the intermediate
term no matter what Clinton does.  Which is why he may well be re-elected in 96.
I do blame Bush for the recession and for not doing anything about it  - i.e. not cutting
taxes, not cutting spending.  He does everything the liberals do but doesn't get the
credit for it.  He never figured it out - or did he? (Do I hear a conspiracy lurking?)
Good riddance.

Gerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Preview of 73rd Texas Legislature
Keywords: Speed Limits, Education, Gambling, Deregulation
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:13:28 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

In article <1769@airgun.wg.waii.com> miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller X7114) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.201222.2568@sooner.ctci.com> dewey@sooner.ctci.com (Dewey Coffman) writes:
>>	2) Lower the legal definition of drunk to 0.08 %. "That would
>>	   mean that a 180lb man could only drink three beers instead
>>	   in an hour instead of four before taking the wheel"
>
>Fine by me. I know I wouldn't be fit to be behind the wheel of a car with
>3 beers in me, and I weigh considerably more than 180 lbs. Let's make it
>0.05% .

So what about the guy who can have a level of 0.08% and still drive?

I believe it was in talk.politics.drugs that I read a post about how
local govt's are lowering the blood alcohol level not because it's more
effective in keeping drunks off the road, but because it makes them
look like they are trying to keep drunks off the road WHILE at the same
time increasing revenues from all the additional people they're
busting.  It's sorta like revenue generation from catching people
speeding.  You set the limit below what some large percentage of the
drivers would normally drive on that road, and then rake 'em in.


>>	Talk of the Income Tax by Rep Elliot Naishtat. I'm sorry, but
>>	no matter how screwed up the current tax system is, I will
>>	not agree to this. I've talked to his office about this, they
>>	have some convincing arguments, but I can't see giving more
>>	money to a govt. that can't handle what they've already got.
>
>Ditto!

The Austin American-Statesman had a graphic in Sunday's paper which
showed that in the last two bienniums, state revenues have increased
about $10 Billion each (from $40 Billion to $60 Billion).  You've got
to wonder where it all goes when you've got an increase of 25% and 20%
respectively.


>>	The arguments his office spout are that by revising the Tax
>>	system, property taxes would go down if a state Income tax
>>	is instituted.(Yeah right, for how long).
>
>Let's see if you can make him flinch by suggesting that property taxes
>(and maybe some others) be %100 deductible, then. Not that I think a state
>income tax is a good idea, but this might flush him out.

Actually, abolish the sales and property taxes at the same time the
income tax was approved.  This way, they'd have to go back and ask for
taxes to be re-added in order to really sock it to us.  Leaving the
existing taxes in place makes it too easy to raise them.

Brendan
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Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: moller@austin.ibm.com (Chris Moller)
Subject: Re: Email to Congress [repost from alt.activism]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:18:36 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: moller@austin.ibm.com
Organization: As little as I can get away with.

In article <C0I90J.JCr@austin.ibm.com>, dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman) writes:

[...]

> 
> FAX - they would like to but....  The perception is there are too many of us
> out here with FAXs, computers and money to pay phone bills.  He related the
> story of one congressman who decided to keep in touch with his district by
> FAX - after six weeks of 24 hours a day, they turned the machine off and
> changed the phone number.

Fine responsive democratic government we have.  The second rule of
government "of the people, by the people, for the people" is "Never
listen to the people."  (The first rule is "Never tell the people.")

>                            Gramm has a machine for use by the public (I was
> given the number) - they give it out if you ask for it but will not volunteer
> it.
> -- 
> Charles Mattair		 			mattair@synercom.hounix.org
> Any opinions offered are my own and do not reflect those of my employer.
> Cheap, fast, good - choose two.
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Give us a while, we'll get it down to the point where you only have to
pick one.

> 
> 

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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Repost from alt.beer(Beer laws in Texas)
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:42:21 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <C0LJwI.pFG@austin.ibm.com> root@moller3.austin.ibm.com writes:

>No data, but I'll bet that somewhere, sometime, someone has crashed a car
>while opening or drinking a can of Dr Pepper while driving.  Should the 
>Dr Pepper company be held liable?  After all, they provided the product 
>that caused the crash.  At the very least, they were obviously negligent
>in not putting a big warning on the side of the can:  DO NOT ATTEMPT TO 
>OPEN OR CONSUME THIS PRODUCT WHILE DRIVING.

Oh get real.  The idea is not to stop the odd 1/1,000,000th accident.  Drunk 
drivers kill *many* people every day.  It is statistically obvious that 
alcohol abuse is the cause of a very large proportion of accidents/deaths/
financial loss.  Of course you can disclaimerize everything, but recurring 
problems are the ones that need attention in my book, not the odd "I got my 
finger caught in the cigarette lighter, and I couldn't steer with one 
hand..." situation.

>Kinda silly, huh?  About as silly as holding bartenders or whoever 
>resposible for the irresponsible behaviour of their customers.  About
>as silly as trying to hold anyone responsible for the actions of another.

Hm.  So if Dr. Joe <knowingly> lets a psychotic out of the nut house and he 
comes and does unthinkable things to your family, Dr. Joe is not culpable or 
morally responsible?  Sure it's an extreme, but closer IMHO than a Dr. 
Pepper can on the side of the road.


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Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Preview of 73rd Texas Legislature
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:30:55 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems, Austin, TX
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

In article <C0pMEz.4yu@austin.ibm.com>, dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman) writes:
|> 	You may be right, the intention is good, but that doesn't make it
|> 	right. I'm all for keeping "drunks" off the road. What else would
|> 	do this, instead of this law? 

"Intoxicated" doesn't mean you had a couple of drinks.  "Intoxicated" connotes 
impairment.  The problem is that people react in different ways to different 
levels of alcohol.  One person might be dangerously impaired with a 0.05% 
"blood" alcohol level, while another person might show no impairment with a 
0.12% level.  It would be one thing if somebody did a study and determined 
that 0.10% causes impairment in 50% of the population or something, but I'm 
aware of no such studies.  Given that 0.10% is arbitrary, the only effect of 
lowering the legal definition to 0.08%, is that you'll convict more people 
regardless of whether or not they're intoxicated.

Let's be optimistic and assume that the police will only stop you with 
probable cause that you are impaired (eg. you are weaving all over the road).
They should issue a "field impairment test" (rather than a field *sobriety*
test -- it matters little that your impairment is caused by alcohol if you 
are driving recklessly).  Testing breath or blood doesn't seem to buy you
anything if the purpose is to remove a danger.

--
John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"Why should I be tagged with the epithet 'loony', merely because I have a pet
 halibut?"
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Repost from alt.beer(Beer laws in Texas)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:52:51 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems, Austin, TX
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

In article <C0I86M.F30@world.std.com>, cramer@world.std.com (William D Cramer) writes:
|> I've been living out of the state for a couple of years -- could 
|> you elaborate on which laws you categorize as the "stupidest and 
|> convoluted"? (not a flame, just curious)

I'm thinking of things like:

Liquor can only be purchased in liquor stores

Companies that manufacture alcoholic beverages can't run sweepstakes or
promotional contests

When I first moved here, Williamson County was "dry", but you could still buy
a drink in a restaurant by joining their "private club".

No liquor sales on Sunday, but you can buy beer and wine after noon

I'll probably think of a few more after I post this.

--
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        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"Why should I be tagged with the epithet 'loony', merely because I have a pet
 halibut?"
Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: root@moller3.austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Repost from alt.beer(Beer laws in Texas)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:14:42 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Damn little.

In article <1993Jan9.073712.26834@dp7up.com> xmpcwsh@dp7up.com (Bill Harris) writes:

[...]

>                                              There was a bill a while back
>that I thought might have made sense, but was canned by the Liqour lobby
>was the one where tavern or establisment may be held responsible if the
>patrons they sold alcoholic goods to caused an accident or worse.  The
>whole idea of the laws is to encourage responsiblity, isn't it?

No data, but I'll bet that somewhere, sometime, someone has crashed a car
while opening or drinking a can of Dr Pepper while driving.  Should the 
Dr Pepper company be held liable?  After all, they provided the product 
that caused the crash.  At the very least, they were obviously negligent
in not putting a big warning on the side of the can:  DO NOT ATTEMPT TO 
OPEN OR CONSUME THIS PRODUCT WHILE DRIVING.

Or how about all those old Dr Pepper cans strewn along the sides of roads?
Should the Dr Pepper company be held accountable for them?  If someone drops
a can of Dr Pepper on his/her toe, breaking same, and permanently staining
the white carpet with spilled Dr Pepper, is the company responsible?

Kinda silly, huh?  About as silly as holding bartenders or whoever 
resposible for the irresponsible behaviour of their customers.  About
as silly as trying to hold anyone responsible for the actions of another.

>
>Bill
>-- 
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>Bill Harris - MIS				xmpcwsh@dp7up.com
>Dr Pepper/The Seven-Up Company			The opinions expressed are my
>Dallas, Texas  				own. (emphasis on the period)


-- 
Chris Moller (moller@austin.ibm.com)

IBM pays absolutely no attention to my opinions, ergo the 
foregoing cannot possibly represent its position.
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Clinton has won...watch your pocket!
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:44:09 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <C0q0Do.Bn3@NeoSoft.com> hari@NeoSoft.com (Doug Andersen) writes:

>In article <1993Jan7.051822.8048@rpp386>, jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>> George Bush, for all that you can say bad about him, said that if
>> we just left it alone, the economy would turn around.  And sure
>> enough, he managed to actually veto several choice bills, fend off
>> requests to have the Fed lower interest rates, and so on.  And lo
>> and behold - the economy is growing quite fine, thank you.
> 
>Wait a minute.  To claim that Bush's response to the recession was "hands
>off" is silly.  The reason the Fed didn't lower interest rates any more is
>that they couldn't go much lower.  But the Fed certainly did fool with
>interest rates all through 1992.

Bush has nothing to do with the Fed (other than initially naming the
Chairman, subject to Congressional confirmation).  What the Fed does
is under the control of the Chairman.  He cannot be fired by either
the President or Congress, and is not under the control of either.
They can talk all they want to, but he doesn't have to listen.  BUSH
didn't even realize there WAS a recession for a long time, and when he
finally did, he was totally hands off.

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 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman)
Subject: Re: Beer laws in Texas
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:39:29 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin, TX. US of A.

In article <C0I86M.F30@world.std.com>, cramer@world.std.com (William D Cramer) writes:
|> johniac@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes:
|> : Texas has some of the stupidest and convoluted alcohol laws I've ever
|> : come across, and the MADD gang and Judith Zaffrini and trying to give
|> : us a few more.
|> 
|> I've been living out of the state for a couple of years -- could 
|> you elaborate on which laws you categorize as the "stupidest and 
|> convoluted"? (not a flame, just curious)
|> 
	I can't comment on what John Iacoletti was talking about, but
	how about:

	1) All beer produced must be turned over to a distributor
	   This basically rules out a BrewPub, 42 states in the US
	   can have BrewPubs(Including OKLAHOMA!) but not Texas.
	   Microbreweries have to give up some of the profit can
	   they can only sell WHOLESALE.

	2) I understand the Beers Across America group cannot ship
	   beer into the State of Texas cause of Texas Alcohol laws.

	3) Any Beer over 4% cannot be given away as samples, therefor
	   the Celis Brewery cannot give you a sample of the Gran Crue.
	   This "beer" also has to be labled "Malt Liquor".
	
	I could go on, but you get the general idea. 

	-dewey
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Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: need manual for Heathkit DX-60
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:36:47 GMT
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Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: Stuff For Sale
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