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From: wench@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Shame about BatB....
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:51:04 GMT
Reply-To: WENCH%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

In article <alberti.702378897@ux.acs.umn.edu>, alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay) writes:
>In <1992Apr3.190241.6630@u.washington.edu> mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner) writes:
>
>>I prefer the feminist message that BatB sends, rather than TLM
>>stressing that 16-year-olds should get married and try to "land"
>>a husband through witchcraft!  BatB has a much more positive message
>>about women than TLM.
>
>What message is that?  That women have to take responsibility for mistakes
>made by their fathers?  That you can dress up like Bo Peep, but as
>long as you "read books" you'll still be considered an intellectual?
>That if you kiss that frog, he really _will_ turn into a Prince (or,
>in the case of BatB, Arnold Schwarzenegger)?  I'll agree that BatB was
>less openly sexist than TLM, but that does NOT make it a "feminist" movie.
>
>
>-- 
>		Reply to:  avatar@pnet51.orb.mn.org
> "Bowl a strike, not a spare; Revolution everywhere!"  -RABL credo



Excuse me, but the reason Belle (and the rest of the women in the film) were
"dressed up as Bo-Peep" (as you put it) is called PERIOD COSTUME!!!


Dawn Nolan
Occasional UF Student
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From: pyr491@oz.plymouth.edu (Scott Bernier)
Subject: VOTE TOON '92 (REPOST)
Reply-To: pyr491@oz.plymouth.edu (Scott Bernier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 17:44:46 GMT

Here we go again with more last minute campaigning before tomorrows
voting in New York and elsewhere....

Tired of the same old polititions????


  Then vote TOON ('88) '92!!!

President        Mickey Mouse
Vice President   Roger Rabbit 

The Cabinet

Department of               Secretary           Assistant (if necessary)

State                       Pepee La Pu 
Treasury                    Scrooge McDuck      Daffy Duck 
Defense                     Bugs Bunny          Snoopy
Attorney General            Donald Duck
Interior                    Chip                Dale
Agriculture                 Foghorn Leghorn
Commerce                    Wile E. Coyote
Labor                       Garfield
Health & Human Services     The Tazmanian Devil
Housing & Urban Development The Three Pigs 
Transportation              The Road Runner     Speey Gonzalas
Energy                      Woody Woodpecker 
Education                   Goofy 
Veteran Affairs             Granny 
  
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The Moxie Kid.   INTERNET: scott@vortex.plymouth.edu 
"Anyone can chug beeya, but it takes real guts to chug MOXIE!"
MOXIE -- Maine's original Party drink since 1884!
From: elworth@cae.wisc.edu (Lance Elworth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland, CA Construction Update
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:02:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr9.170300.7096
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison

In article <barry.8@varian.com> barry@varian.com (Barry Nesmith) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.213354.7404@PA.dec.com> mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>>Yes, we've seen them testing the system, projecting something similar to a
>>TV test pattern onto the sheets of water.
>
>Just out of curiosity, how much of the mist do you think will end up on
>the crowd downwind. (particularly if it's a little breezy)  I'm imagining
>that lack of wind will be a nightly determination of whether the show
>goes on or not. True?
>
>				Barry Nesmith

This sounds similar to what is used during part of Epcot's Illuminations
show.  It looks like there are two poles with sprayers at the upper corners.
I think they spray a thin sheet of water onto which a laser generated
picture is projected from behind.  Part of the laser image continues
through the 'screen' up at a slight angle over the audience.

Of course its hard to tell exactly whats going on in the middle of that 
lagoon, but with the simple laser images, the wind didn't seem to have
any effect.

--
Lance Elworth
From: adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Inquiry - Disneyland in mid May
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:55:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA

In article <CPETTERB.92Apr14103242@mickey.javelin.sim.es.com> cpetterb@javelin.sim.es.com (Cary Petterborg) writes:
>My wife and I are thinking of taking our three year old to Disneyland
>sometime between May 11 and May 14.  My wife is quite concerned that
>it will be too crowded for our little girl to stand in the lines to

In general, I've noticed that kids deal with long lines better than adults.
Although 3 is very young, it might not be a problem.  Disneyland also
gives you lots of things to see while you wait in line, much more so than
other parks.  Lots of the child-approved rides have shorter lines than the
others:  It's a Small World, Tiki Room, Pinnochio's Daring Journey.  But
then again, some of the most popular "children's" rides have the longest
lines:  Dumbo, Peter Pan's Flight, Submarine Voyage, etc.

>We've never gone to such a place with her, so we don't quite know what
>we are in for.  I thought it would be a good time to go, before the
>summer crowds, not a weekend, etc.

Mid May is a very reasonable time to go.  Spring Break is over, and the summer
season hasn't really ramped up yet.  Weather should be good.

>Also, I was wondering about the height requirement on Splash Mountain.
>Our little girl is 3' 2" instead of 3' 4".  Is it possible that they
>would let her go on it anyway?

I don't know the exact limit, but I imagine 3' 4" is too short.  Height
requirements are strictly enforced, which is in everyone's best interest.

>And then, my wife's friends that live in Orange county said that
>Knotts Berry Farm would be much more enjoyable for our little girl

Even as a kid, I preferred Disneyland to Knott's any day, but that might
just be me.  Knott's is cheaper than Disneyland, which may be a big bonus if
your daughter is too restless to spend all day in line.

Aid.  (adrian@lexcel.com)
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From: swimmer@catt.ncsu.edu (Jennifer Bouck)
Subject: Mickey Mouse Club (1970s)
Reply-To: swimmer@catt.ncsu.edu (Jennifer Bouck)
Organization: NCSU CATT Program
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:07:14 GMT

I was wondering if someone else remembers a Mickey Mouse Club back in 
the 1970s.  I remember watching it when I was little, and I think I 
might have even had a lunch box with the mouseketeers on it.  I believe 
Lisa Welchel (from Facts of Life) was one of the mouseketeers.  Does any 
one else rememebr this?  And if so, do you rememeber who any of the 
mouseketeers were?  

			-Jennifer
 
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From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Subject: Re: Disneyland during winter
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:54:44 GMT


>My family has decided that we will be visiting Disneyland during
>the month of January this coming winter season.  I was wondering
>if anyone who has just been during this past winter can email me
>or post to this newsgroup their experience visiting Disneyland
>during January.
>
>Thanks for any information that can be provided.
>
>John Mendenhall

I visited Disneyland during February a few years ago.  We
loved it!  We spent two days there. The first day was the 
Sunday before Presidents' Day.  It was pretty busy, but not at
all as busy as July.  We went back the following Wednesday.  We
had the whole place practically to ourselves.  On that day we
went through the whole park twice.  We rarely had more than
7-8 people ahead of us in line.  Some of the rides like Space
Mountain and the Matterhorn Bobsleds, we went on 5-6 times in 
succession.  The park closed at 6:00 pm that day, but I still
think that I got my money's worth.

The weather was reasonably good.  We took sweatshirts with us.
We needed them in the morning, but as the day wore on it got 
warm enough that we didn't need them.

On the down side, there was no Main Street Electrical Parade,
no fireworks, and during the off-season it is fairly common to 
see from one to four rides shut down on any given day.  I 
though that they tended to shut down different rides on different
days, so that between our Sunday and our Wednesday visits we were
able to see all of the rides up and running.  This wouldn't apply
though if a ride was shut down for a major overhaul, as was the
case with the Rivers of America this  past winter.

Given the opportunity I would definitely make the winter trip 
again.

Russ
From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:11:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr9.221118.22537
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


>It  is my understanding that, for whatever reason, the Disney 
>will forbids the release/re-release of SNOW WHITE ever. 

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Dwarves?) was re-released back
in the summer of 1987 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of 
the original release.

Russ
From: archive@arb.uucp (CARL  L  SAGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Permanent Jobs with Disney
Date: 12 Apr 92 11:52:36 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

 The address to send resumes was (when last I checked):

                 Professional Staffing
                 Walt Disney World
                 P.O. Box 10,000
                 Lake Buena Vista
                 FL    32830

You will probably want to give the casting office a call to confirm
this address.The # there is : (407)828-3088.
If you need more info drop me some e-mail,or leave another post here.

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From: esucv@warwick.ac.uk (TOny M)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: EuroDisney ceremonies on CBS
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:42:26 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <1992Apr13.143648.10656@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> howard@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Howard Lem) writes:
>
>Euro-Disney was open to the public prior to the ceremonies.  In fact, a local
>newspaper had a small article and noted that it was free on April 11.  The
>paper noted that the season opened for another 'theme' park on the opposite
>side of Paris too!
>
>Now it's almost as cheap for us to go to Euro-Disney as it would be to go
>to Disneyland from Eastern Canada.
>
The BBC and ITV in the UK seemed to concentrate on the fact that it is
(apparently) as cheap for a family to go to Florida as it is to go to
Paris, and generally gave pessimistic reports (far fewer people than expected
on the first day; an interview with some high-powered Disney exec. trying
to justify the high admission costs; the fact that it is in the middle of
nowhere....)

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From: mat@cypress.com (Mat Clayson/VDSP)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Wedding cake figures
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:40:50 GMT
Reply-To: mat@cypress.com.UUCP (Mat Clayson/VDSP)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA

I remember reading about Disney characters wedding cake tops. Are they still
makeing them? Of even more interest would be any Robin Hood and Maid Mariam/fox
figures. If they make them are they availible at the Disney Store?

(510)226-1937 eve
(408)943-2790 days

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From: starner@ISF.Unisys.COM (Mark Starner)
Subject: WDW Hours in May
Originator: starner@io.han.paramax.com
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:51:23 GMT

Anyone know the hours of operation for WDW(MK,Epcot and MGM) in May?

Can't seem to get any answer at 407 824 4321....


specifically 5/11 - 5/15....

Thanks
Mark

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: B&B POSTER
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:45:30 PDT

Well, I've looked all over the ol' apartment, and I can't find that
stuff.  Sorry.  As a consolation, I can tell you that there is another
NFFC Disney Show 'n' Sale coming up this summer.  I'll keep the names
and addresses of all those who e-mailed me about it, and send out the
info then...

Greg
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: fontana@honeydew.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana)
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:25:57 GMT

(W. Scott Radeker, IV) writes:

   (Russell I. Dyreng) writes:

>>>It  is my understanding that, for whatever reason, the Disney 
>>>will forbids the release/re-release of SNOW WHITE ever. 

>>Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Dwarves?) was re-released back
>>in the summer of 1987 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of 
>>the original release.


>Well, at least on video, Snow White has not been released, nor will
>it be.  Ever.


Yeah, yeah, that's what they said about "Fantasia".  Just give them time.
Meanwhile, there are numerous bootleg copies of "Snow White" floating
around.  Someone in my dorm last year had a crystal clear transfer of it.
But I would guess that Disney will probably release "Snow White" on video
within the next two years- perhaps during the Christmas season after
"Aladdin" hits the theatres.

Disney is aware that video formats surpassing the 40 year old NTSC 
standard will become popular later in this decade, and will probably
make a pile of cash rereleasing their "classics" in better formats.
(Milking yet more money from those who already bought VHS or LD copies.)

While I'm on Disney, let me ask if anyone besides me is disgusted with
the hyper-commercialization of the Disney empire... I mean, the "Disney
Afternoon", the cheap children's books with substandard illustrations,
the Disney stores bursting with "ancillary merchandise", etc.
It's turned into such a money machine, and it makes me sick.


Mark
From: Kevin.McGarvey@newcastle.ac.uk (Kevin.McGarvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: 101 Dalmations
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:54:41 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

Could anyone tell me if the film '101 Dalmations' is to be released on video in
England.

I heard rumours that it was this summer sometime.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mit@b11.ingr.com (Timothy A. Turner)
Subject: Re: Premiere of EuroDisney
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:23:44 GMT

I thought the clip of Ronald Reagan reporting on the opening of
Discoveryland May 17th, 1955 was a highlight of the show. Do you
think Don Johnson or Pat O'Brien may be president in 25 years?

Tim
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: wiltbemj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid/BatB similarities
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:34:17 GMT

tlin@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Tony Lin) writes:

>It seems to me that BatB is more of a love story, in the sense that the
>protagonists actually KNOW each other.  Belle at first fears the Beast,
>but then, as she gets to know him, learns to love him.  Similary, the
>Beast learns to love Belle, though he had never felt that way before.

>And what about Eric?  We know very little about him.  He knows very little
>about Ariel, since she couldn't talk to him; he was in love with "that voice,"
>and almost married Ursula becaus Ursula was using Ariel's voice.

>Having said all that, let me say I love both films, and probably even like
>Little Mermaid more; it just seems that Beauty and the Beast told more of 
>a love story.

>Comments?  = 

I think that there is a cruical point that has been left out of our
previous comparisons between B&B and TLM.  In B&B the Beast must over
come a barrier that he has some degree of control over.  His own insecurity
and selfishness and then he can learn to love another.  In the TLM and all
other disney films the barrier that the protagonists must over come is
embodied by another physical charcater(sp?) in the film.  Just My opinion.



	Mike 
	wiltbemj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
From: 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie 'Rifa the Insane' Babik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: 20 New Reasons to Fly to Walt Disney World
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:42:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: gw.1992Apr6.234220.3720
Organization: Western Michigan University

A while ago, someone asked what the "20 New Reasons to go to Walt Disney 
World" were, as they were being advertised on television.  Well, here's the 
answer, straight off my tray liner from Burger King!  Ta-dah!


 1. "Surprise in the Skies" 
	EPCOT Center

 2. Baby Manatee "Chester"
	EPCOT Center

 3. Pleasure Island

 4. "SpectroMagic"
	Magic Kingdom

 5. Roger Rabbit Surprises
	Magic Kingdom

 6. Jim Henson's Muppet-Vision 4D

 7. Disney Vacation Club Resort

 8. Disney's Port Orleans Resort

 9. "Surprise Celebration Parade"
	Magic Kingdom

10. Disney Dixie Landings Resort

11. TV Dinosaurs Live on stage
	Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park

12. Mickey and Minnie Surprise Greetings
	Orlando International Airport

13. Sci-Fi Drive-In Diner
	Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park

14. Disney's Yacht and Beach Club Resorts

15. "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" Adventureland
	Disney-MGM studios Theme Park

16. The Little Mermaid Show
	Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park

17. "Sorcery in the Sky" Fireworks Fantasy
	Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park

18. "Beauty and The Beast" Live on Stage
	Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park

19. Minnie Moo at Grandma Duck's Farm
	Magic Kingdom

20. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
	Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park

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From: jab@wpi.wpi.edu (Julia Berendes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey Mouse Club (1970s)
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:50:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute


    I remember this version of the Mickey Mouse Club form when I was little.
I dont remember the Mouseketeers (sp?) names but I have a whole bunch of 
Viewmaster slides at home from it so I can check when I go home next week-
end
From: prw@Apple.COM (Paul Wenker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: EuroDisney ceremonies on CBS
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:45:09 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr13.143648.10656@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> howard@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Howard Lem) writes:
>Note to the CBC(Canadian Broadcasting Corp):  Way to go with ruining time
>schedules!  Starting Disney an hour early just so we can watch a bunch of
>mediocore guys play hockey!  I guess I'm going to have to live with a copy
>of the US version commercials and all.   Sorry to R.A.D. readers for getting
>off topic.

Well, at least you got to see it.  In the San Francisco Bay area, it was
pre-empted by a basketball game.

-Paul Wenker
-Apple Computer, Inc.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jmb5b@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman)
Subject: Re: BatB seasons, Is Mother nature Insane???
Organization: University of Virginia
Ireallyam: jmb5b
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:38:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.154228.3755@gw.wmich.edu> 92lemecha@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>I've just seen Beauty and the Beast for the Nth time, and I still can't figure
>something out.  If anyone can clarify, please do...
>
>Can anyone figure out what season it is during the movie?  Or is 
>Mother Nature having an ID crisis?  
>
>At the beginning, (during "Belle") It is nice, bright, sunny, and apparently
>fairly warm.  
>While Moris is being lost in the forest, and entering the castle, it seems like
>fall perhaps, but he just left for the fair, and should return in a few days.
>
>When Gaston proposes to Belle, it is sunny and warm again.
>
>When belle is enprisoned, it is snowing.
>
>It is snowing when Belle and Beast are playing in the snow.  I know that.
>
>But later, during the rather personal, and intimate Formal, they go out
>onto the balcony, and it is a warm, stary, SNOWLESS night.  But then 
>Belle looks at her father in the mirror, and he is in a snow drift.  
>
Ok, here goes my attempt at an explanation.  Apparently, from reading all the stuff I have about the making of BatB, it is supposed to be Fall when the film begins.  This makes sense in the sunny and warm scenes as well as the forest scenes, because if Fall in France is anything remotely like Fall here in Virginia,
then the weather flip-flops all over the place until it gets closer to Winter;
then it gets colder and sometimes snows.   
   During the course of the story, the seasons change from Fall to Winter, and eventually (at the very end) to Spring.   About the snow scenes, if I recall
the post-waltz balcony scene correctly, the ground is not visible, so there could still be snow on the ground, or else it has begun to melt and only remains in patches (like in the forest where Maurice is). 
Wel, that's my 2 cents.  Hope it helped.
Michelle Carpick
University of Virginia
From: nqiy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:23:40 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <53604@hydra.gatech.EDU>,
gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV) writes: 
> Beauty and the Beast WILL be released this fall on video.  I know this
> to be true.  Many more will too, after Tuesday!
> 
> 
> Scott
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 Finally, some info about the video release! Does anyone have a specific date
yet? Yes, I know it's early but I'm dying to know. The only info I can add is I
was told the laserdisc will be in letterbox format. About time Disney got to
their senses...I have a strange feeling they're going to have a video version
that's as extravagant as Fantasia's $100 package. Total speculation,
though--any word 'bout this, too?

-Brian Soriano

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