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From: jcooper@utkvx4.utk.edu (Jonathan Cooper)
Subject: Re: PostScript font downloader
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:30:00 GMT

In article <9207291356.aa12517@generic.UUCP>, taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao) writes...
> 
>    If I have a Macintosh PostScript font file on an HFS disk, is there
>any way to download the font to a LaserWriter IINT printer?  The TrueType
>disks in our user group's disk library are part of the Macintosh section
>so they also contain the Adobe Type 1 font file along with the AFM file
>and TrueType/bitmaps suitcase.  The System 6.0 LaserWriter driver does not
>seem to automatically download fonts to the printer.

hmmm...  there seems to be a rash of non apple 2 postings going on lately.  i
certainly hope nobody considers anything as _stupid_ as trying to moderate
_this_ group.  of course, it would also be nice if people would place articles
in the appropriate news groups.

oh well, in answer to the question, the laserwriter font utility program,
located on the system 7 tidbits disk (my powerbook won't run system 6, so i
don't know about it), will download fonts to a laserwriter. 
>--
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From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Bilestoad
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:16:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <HHUANG.92Jul23010243@husc10.harvard.edu> hhuang@husc10.harvard.edu (Howard Huang) writes:
>payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
>
>   >>And why is your 20,000 copy -guess- any better than the hundred
>   >>billion dollar losses claimed by the software industry? 
>   >>... I do not trust their numbers. 
>   >>Now if you actually went out and counted them...
>
>payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) also writes:
>
>   The
>   lost profits argument -assumes- that everyone who pirates a program could
>   afford to buy is (no lost profits otherwise). I suspect that most of the
>   time, this is not the case. 
>
>   And I suspect that the claimed lost profits
>   exceed the expendable cash of the American public by an order of magnitude.
>
>Before saying Eric Johnson's "guesses" are unfounded, have you counted
>the numbers to support your "suspicions"?
 
That is the essence of my point, the numbers are -not- available. So
what is the value of making huge estimates that cannot be proved or 
disproved?

And I do not have to have good numbers to question others numbers. How many
angles can dance on the head of as pin? I don't know, but if you were to
say 1,000,000, then I would question that. Where did this come from, how
do you know?

> ____________________________________________________________________________
>|                                                                            |
>|   Howard C. Huang                     Internet:  hhuang@husc.harvard.edu   |
>|   173 Morrison Avenue #1              Bitnet:    hhuang@husc.BITNET        |
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>|____________________________________________________________________________|


Rich

payner@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Subject: apl2emu
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:46:36 GMT

I followed the posts about the ms-dos apple emulator (and the possible
piracy). The discussion must have had some effect. I tried to FTP the
emulator today, and was denied access. My archie can't find another
site with the emulator on it. 

Could someone either point me to another site with the emulator
on it, or Email it to me?

Thanks,

Chris   carndt@pan.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Hypercard GS upgrade
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:22:36 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Jul27.175826.25043@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
> 
>  My question is... is the upgrade worth getting? I paid the original price
> for Hypercard GS, and have had relatively no problems so far. What have they
> changed/added for the new version?

There aren't any mind-boggling new features, but quite a lot of small
improvements.  Here's a quick summary:

- Bug fixes, in particular all known bugs that caused crashes.
- Better handling of low memory situations, and somewhat better use of
  memory in general.
- Speed improvements in HyperTalk and unpacking pictures (plus others).
- The application is smaller on disk (but still needs 1.5 MB of RAM).

- External commands/functions can create their own "windoids" (like the
  Message Box, Tool Window, etc.).  These are referred to as "XWindows".

- The "Compact Stack" command can optionally free up unused space in the
  stack's resource fork.
- Buttons and fields can have background colours.
- There is a new "Tune Builder" stack.

The following features require System 6:
- Sounds from the */System/Sounds folder can be played from HyperTalk.
- Disk insertions are recognised, and blank disks can be formatted.
- There is a new "Media Control" stack.

New scripting features:
- ItemDelimiter: allows lists to be separated by characters other than
  comma (e.g. colon, which makes it very easy to split up pathnames).
- The "ask" command distinguishes between the user clicking "Cancel"
  and clicking "OK" with an empty string.
- BackColor property (for fields and buttons).
- New constants: Comma and Colon.
- ClickLine and ClickChunk - make it easy to locate a mouse click in a
  field, useful for "hypertext" applications.
- Lots of changes to support XWindows.

-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apple2:17742 news.groups:15963
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,news.groups
Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 19:21:58 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <n2fmp7c.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
>Because the cost of the solution could be very great. Moderation has
>made the ms-dos binaries group an absolute joke.

Which MS-DOS binaries group are you looking at? The one I'm watching has
plenty of stuff in it. I find the moderation to be a seriously Good Thing, and
can't understand why you're so avidly seeking the group you'll get without
moderation: full of non-binaries, and those that are there are barely tested
and quite possibly full of viruses. You need look no farther than alt.sources
to bear the former out, and what better distribution channel than Usenet for a
brand new virus?

-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by a .sig virus.
  "An empty stomach is not a good political adviser." -- [edible] fortune
          cookie, received the night Perot withdrew from candidacy
From: gregd@pro-desert.cts.com (Greg DaCosta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: HELP!  In need of a GS/OS guru!
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:39:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-desert], Greg DaCosta (Sysop)

In <1992Jul27.160436.31690@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC) writes:

>By the way who stores source code in an extended storage type file?
>That seems kinda silly to me.

Gary,

I'm pretty sure that TML Pascal II and Complete Pascal (updated version of
TML II) both use extended files for their source code as they use the
TextEdit tools with font information in the source file.  

Greg




    /\ |\  Pro-Desert BBS  (619/251-1297) 300-14400
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From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Moderation
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:31:36 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Well folks...I've considered my position on moderation quite carefully.
Now, I think that there are some good things to come out of moderation, and
I'm no longer opposed to it.

However, I still feel that either way, it does not make a *huge* difference
to me.  Therefore, I probably won't vote for or against moderation.  I'll
do as I said : abstain.  For one, I feel the debate was somewhat silly, and
there really wasn't much that came out of it.  We'll see how the CFV goes
and it'll work out to be what the majority of people want....that's what
the vote is all about.

So, if you're looking for anything stated in the charter for moderation, by
all means vote for it.  Even one little dinky thing like viruses can carry
a little weight :-)

Good luck Greg, and I hope it works out for you...I know how much you would
like to see it come about.  After all, you did put quite a bit of work into
the RFD.  Who knows...maybe I'll end up feeling it was necessary.  But,
for now, I've said my peace.

Amrit

Yeah, yeah...no I-Told-You-So letters please....thank you.

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() chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu -- Amrit Chauhan  () My rolling stone has
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur)
Subject: Out of This World (the game)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:01:00 GMT

What exactly is Out of this World? Is it currently a SNES game, to be ported to
the //gs? I am very interested in this software, especially if it is an arcade
game!


Krishna
From: alumn123@whscdp.whs.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: <None>
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:13:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: whscdp.1992Jul22.151348.510
Organization: Tmoh Research, Milwaukee, WI

Could someone send me some information on newsletters, magazines and such
that still support the Apple II machine.

A list of software companies would help to if possible.

Thanks in advance!

--
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Tmoh Systems     /_|_\     jpinnow@world.std.com    Phone : (414) 761-1537
                           jspinnow@netcom.com 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: The Perennial Piracy Debate (was Re: Bilestoad)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:31:17 GMT

payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:

>In article <bazyar.711852801@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>Wow, you know each and every pirate personally and can verify this?
>Do they also drive Mercedies? You need to learn to read. 

  I'm telling you from personal experience, and from talking with a number
of IIgs software pirates, many of whom run BBSs.  Again, even if a
particular person is too poor to afford a $30 game (very unlikely),
does this mean that it is okay for him to pirate it?

>I need to check some numbers, but I bet that the claimed lost profits
>exceed the expendable income of America. If this is the case, the argument
>cannot be valid.

  Why is that?  Let's say that Microsoft has sold 5 million copies of Windows.
Let's say that there are 40 million pirates copies in use.  That's $400mil
right there that morally and legally belongs to Microsoft.  Now, start
adding up all of the other heavily pirated packages for machines and
yes, I can see how you might very well achieve a number that exceeds the
amount of money Americans have to spend.  Does this mean then that since
technically it's not lost profits that these pirates aren't doing any harm
by pirating?  In addition, there's still a lot of money that Americans
_do_ have to spend that isn't going where it belongs.
 
>And it is also your issue, not mine. If you want to talk about the lost
>profits argument, I will be glad to. As for the rest, you go non-linear,
>and seem to think that I said and implied tons of stuff that I absolutely
>did not say or imply. You even went as far as to edit out the line where
>I said that I am not defending piracy, just attacking the lost-profits
>argument. And I did not mean in general, but as it is being used by the
>software industry, specifically, and only.

  Okay, fine.

>Is this really Jawaid? This is the first time I have seen you rant. And
>it is really sad that you went so far beyond what I had said to do so.

  Yes, it's really me.  I got off on a tangent, one that's becoming 
very important to me.  I apologize if I insinuated anything about you
in particular, but it's sad to see any IIgs enthusiast _not_ come
up in arms against piracy.

-- 
 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apple2:18102 news.groups:16211
From: taob@generic.UUCP (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,news.groups
Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:25:27 GMT
Reply-To: taob@generic.UUCP (Brian Tao)
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Terra*Net Technologies Corp Toronto

['bout time I jumped into the fray...]

dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com (Doug Granzow) writes...
>
>Anyone who is scum enough to write a virus could think "Look at this,
>everybody says checking for viruses is a waste of time. I think I'll write a
>new virus, and since nobody is checking for them, I'll get everyone *real*
>good this time!"

    This hardly makes sense.  You are in fact saying that the very act of
mentioning virus protection makes it a valid point.  If the point was
never brought in the first place, then no one would think of writing a
virus.  Is that what you are saying?

    Let's say we *do* get a new virus.  How will you detect it?  There are
only a handful of Apple II virus scanners.  The most recent strain that
can be caught is probably years old (my guess).  What are you going to use
to catch a *new* virus?  Are you going to scan every piece of software for
phrases like "Sorry dudez, this way k00l virus just wiped yer hard drive!"?
How about the incidence of known viruses spreading via cba2?  When's the
last time that happened?  Until I get reasonable answers to all the above
questions, virus scanning remains an invalid argument for moderation.

(this is not to say that moderation in general is not a good idea...)

-- 
Brian T. Tao    =*8-) | ::::::::> tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca <::::::::
Dept. of Exobiology   | :::::> generic!terranet!taob@zoo.toronto.edu <:::::
University of Toronto | "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."
From: daye@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (J. Q. Gumby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: StarTrek: First Contact (on c.b.a2)
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:24:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Jul21.192429.3161
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

This is regarding what I think is a bug in the program:

When it orders you to transport someone from one planet to another, I would
assume that order is considered an 'unscheduled order from Starfleet', but it
fails to credit me with completing them when I quit.  Is there something else
that needs to be done besides picking the passenger up and then beaming him
down to the destination planet?

If someone could get that to the author that'd be great.

-- 
|Evan Day                | Pandion Software     | "Yes.  Absolutely.  I do     
|daye@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU | 4764 NW Virginia Pl  |      indeed concur 
|     ^^^^^^ - preferred | Corvallis, OR  97330 |      wholeheartedly."        
|daye@nyssa.CS.ORST.EDU  | (503) 753-6183       |  - Cmdr. William T. Riker
From: gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
Subject: Re: Comp.Binaries etc...
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:44:41 GMT
Organization: Ursa Minor Beta, 402-476-8047 @ 2400

lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>pro-palmtree!rstern (Ryan Stern) writes:

>>um, I got a question.... whats all this about comp.binaries.Apple2 (or

>That is a currently free and unmoderated group available for USENET sites.
>It contains freely posted programs directly from users which will run on
>various combinations of Apples.  There is a final call for discussion of
>limiting the free format of postings to that group

You say that as if it was something ba-ad.

>Larry W. Virden   UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
>Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org

-- gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: SoniqTracker .52 & ModZap .80
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:55:23 GMT
Summary: yeah, right, 8 voices on an Amiga...Not. 

In article <1992Jul26.134934.3563@ee.rochester.edu> seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah) writes:
>Some of those MODs that refuse to work might be Octalyzer MODs, which
>I guess are 8-voice MOD songs.  I downloaded a few once (took forever)
>and was pretty miffed when I discovered that Lo and Behold... :)

How do they manage eight voices, anyway? By splitting channels into single
oscillators (like Diversi-Tune) or by a sort of mixing, a la Electric Duet?
Either alternative would injure sound quality, seems to me.


-- 
Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Your god drinks...P-P-Peach nectar!"
                        '
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: MSDOS FST (Was KansasFest)
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:10:28 GMT


of course, if it works like it does on the Mac, folks will have to buy the
new floppy disk before they can use it.  But paying the cost of 2 PC 
Transporters is probably worth accessing the text files on the floppies that
could have been downloaded for free...
-- 
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Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
America Online: lvirden@aol.com
From: henrym@Ingres.COM (Henry Mahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Email servers for IIc Archives?
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:41:21 GMT
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


     A good friend of mine was given a IIc.  It has one of the HD's.  I'm
a PC/UNIX person w/Email & News access.  Are there IIc archives?  Are there
Email servers avail to access them?  I guess we'll need the basics to get
him up and running;  archivers,  PC <-> IIc read/write floppy, etc.

     Help in this new world for me would be appreciated.

     Thanks


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From: tonyh@pro-scat.cts.com (Tony Hamaoui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: //C SYSTEM FOR SALE
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:21:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.

I have the following //c system for sale

apple //c
14" apple color composite monitor
apple imagewriter //
hayes compatible modem

I will include about 20 programs for free.  Also if you have an IBM        
I will include a free prodigy kit.  Asking $475 respond if interested..
l
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:      Re: System 6.0
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:54:25 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Jul27.111653.23387@crash.cts.com> johnf@gnh-digibits.cts.com (John Fulton) writes:
>[...]
>I have two NDA word processors, and the same thing happens with both.  If
>I create and save a document to an open folder, when I close the NDA, the open
>folder does not show the document.  In other words, the system refreshes the
>pre-existing desktop but does not check to see whether anything has changed.
>
>I suspect, in fact, that the NDA word processors are at fault -- that they
>are not telling the operating system to refresh its data. [...]

Starting with 6.0, there is a way that NDAs (or whatever) can tell the
Finder they changed the contents of a folder, so that the Finder should
re-read it if the window is open. -- NDAs written before 6.0 don't do
that, of course.

(It would be nice if the Finder noticed automatically, instead of having
to be told. -- There's a way it can do that (receive volume-changed events
in its GS/OS Notification procedure).  The trick is to avoid excessive
re-updating of windows when the Finder itself changes something and then
gets informed of the change.)

-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:      touch tone decoder card
Date: 25 Jul 1992 06:24:31 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Jul25.031836.27291@crash.cts.com> ba556@gnh-digibits.cts.com (Matthew McGehrin) writes:
}> From: infonode!fordke@UUNET.UU.NET (Keith Ford)
}> At one time, I was attempting to buy a card for an Apple2 that
}> was a touch-tone decoder and speech synthesizer.  I am interested
}> in finding out if such a thing exists today for either an Apple2
} 
}I would be interested in a card or attachment...could come
}in handy... 

	Look into getting a Novation Apple Cat modem. I see them for sale
on the computer forsale groups once in a while (misc.forsale.computers and
other local forsale groups)

	To get a 1200 baud modem (uggh), it's actually a *two* card unit.
So I'm hypothesizing that the main unit is basically just a serial card. If
you could get the pinouts on the connector, I presume you could build a
9600 or faster modem to connect to it (or possibly connect an external
modem to it?? doubtful)

	But anyway, besides the modem capabilities, this device does touch
tone generation/recognition and speech synthesis.  There is a wonderful demo
disk that comes with it that does a lot of different sound effects (the
only one that comes to mind is the British phone ringing)
-- 
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\Mail me:Get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED,ULT VI GS done,for UNIX GS&CHEAP CD info/
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