From: friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin)
Subject: Re: Neuro-Linguistic Programming (FAQ)
Keywords: NLP Hypnosis
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:51:25 GMT

georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.203544.10959@netcom.com> slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) w
rites:
>>georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>>
>>>I purchased that memory enhancement, home-study cassette course that
>>>you see advertised on half-hour TV infomercials. It was worthless.
>>
>>You buy things from infomercials and you call *NLP* a crock?  Well,
>>never mind.  Carry on.

>The cost was small, Friday, so I knew any loss would be small. That doesn't
>apply to NLP, where everything is expensive, and the buyer's loss is
>always large.

Actually, George, I think that message came from Sharon, not me.

>      some deletion

>>>I threw the memory home-study course in the trash.
>>   ^^^^^
>>
>>Further evidence that you may be predominantly kinesthetic (as opposed
>>to your saying, "I could see that it was a complete waste," or "It
>>sounds like crap to me").

>A more plausible explanation is the claims of the manufacturer were
>fraudulent.

George, you're not paying attention.  Sharon drew your attention to a
VERB, the choice of which was originally yours.  You, of course, can't
recognize that, because it would undermine your faulty logic.  Notice,
carefully, the difference between the VERBS "threw," "see," and "sounds"
in the above lines.  Non-responsiveness to the subject at hand is a
debating tactic of the weakly-prepared.

>>Further evidence that you may be predominantly kinesthetic (as opposed
>>to your saying, "I could see that it was a complete waste," or "It
>>sounds like crap to me").

>A more plausible explanation is the claims of the manufacturer were
>fraudulent.

>Whether some people are visual, others auditory, and others kinesthetic
>is nonsense, but it is perpetuated by the NLP crowd because it sells.
>Since NLP is a commercial business, selling is what's important.

>How then do you explain a blind man like Stevie Wonder writing music
>filled with visual lyrics? Listen to the words in his song "I Just
>Called To Say I Love You."

It shows, quite effectively, that one's internal representation systems
are not affected by the availability of specific related sensory organs.
Stevie Wonder (and Ray Charles) can clearly create images in their minds,
irrespective of the functioning of their eyes.  I've discussed this at
some length with an acquaintance who has been blind from birth (and has
recently been flying an airplane, under guidance from a sighted flight
instructor), and she constructs a quite rich visual world in her mind.

Perhaps if you were out gathering information, instead of making un-
substantiated claims, George, you would have learned that.
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   Carol Anne Ogdin, Principal Designer     courage, something which narrow
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