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From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a PC to support Linux and X386
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:54:58 GMT

In article <67035@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6698a@prism.gatech.EDU (Andrew Hobson) writes:
> In article <6080@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar) write
> s:
>           avoid DTK motherboards
> 
> >Do you know what is wrong with them? I have a DTK based machine, and I
> >keep getting unexpected hd interrupts a lot. Could the motherboard be
> 
> I have a DTK motherboard and I have had absolutely zero problems with anything
> like that.

Ditti, ditto.  No problems here on my DTK motherboard either.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
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Subject: New BBS with Linux supportn 
Keywords: LINUX BBS PUBLIC OTHER FREE 
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Distribution: ALL
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Lotsa Questions and some problems as well
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:26:44 GMT
Distribution: comp

1) While trying to install ps-0.97 with my 0.97pl2 kernel, compilation
   complains about not finding the symbol LIBRARY_OFFSET - I've grepped
   through all the kernel source and haven't been able to find this
   symbol.  Can anyone tell me where it is?
2) I need a sample /etc/mtools file as I haven't a clue about the
   number of sectors, etc, on my floppies.
3) How do I go about writing a boot-sector to my hard disk partition 1?
   I have run bootany and put the menu onto my hard disk, but I still
   can't boot off the partition I choose.
4) Why isn't 80x25 on the list of SVGA modes?  If I absent-mindedly hit
   Return at boot, instead of some other key, I *must* pick a goofy
   graphics mode.
5) How can I get around this horrid 14-character limit on filenames?

And finally a question: would anyone be interested in a module editor
for Linux, with SB support?  I'm thinking of writing one, and I'm just
wondering if it would be worthwhile ...

Cheers;

Nat
(gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz -- Nathan Torkington -- is the electronic text and
 MS-DOS archivist for the Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Amiga
From: system@kryton.UUCP (Scott Beckstead)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 02:29:27 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

Hi all,
   I want to try out amiga minix, I have the demo disk and the book. 
I have had some success with the PC version.  Are the file systems 
compatable ( some one mentioned crossdos) Also my hard disk is made 
by C-ltd (out of business) Has anyone got either a driver for it or 
hardware specs so I can write the driver??  Alternately a driver
that will let me use a large file as a filesystem (hmmm I have 
code for that under dos perhaps it's adaptable).  
Thanks for the airtime
Scott


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bryan@uhura1.uucp (Bryan Curnutt)
Subject: Re: Background processes not dying on parent exit
Reply-To: bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Stoner Associates, Inc./DREM Incorporated, Houston Texas
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:26:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.133521.23250@athena.mit.edu> hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com writes:
>| 
>| |> 
>| |> I ran a process in the background from tcsh with the ampersand (&).  I would
>| |> have expected that when I logged out of the shell that my background processes
>| |> would have died as well, but they didn't.
>| 
>| This is what is supposed to happen.
>
>I thought that was supposed to happen only if you ran the background job via
>nohup.

True.  But both csh and tcsh automatically nohup all background jobs.
-- 
Any opinions above are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of SAI.

Bryan Curnutt                   | "I hope that UNIX is more like my diner
bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net       |  than like McDonald's." -- Doug McIlroy
From: ede@kadabra.osf.org (Ted Ede)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux still doesn't recognize my RLL drive
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:38:39 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation


I used to have a wd1002-27x attached to my st238 30 meg drive.
I was told linux doesn't support XT controllers, which I assumed
to mean 8-bit controllers.

So I purchased a ST21R, to quote the manual, "a 16-bit ST412 interface
controller designed for use in AT-type systems".  It was $45, while
other RLL controllers were going for $70 to $80.  Did I get too
cheap/old of a 16 bit controller?

I installed it, configured it for my 238 and low level formatted it
and it boots DOS properly.  Linux still does not recognize it.
What exactly is linux looking for?  Does anyone in Linux-land use
an RLL drive?  (Can't imagine I'm the only one.)  If so could you
tell me the adapter that you use?

The ST21R does not have a floppy controller on it.  I use my adaptek
1542 to run the floppies.

I have a 386/40 with AMI bios.  I have to tell the system the C:
drive is not installed in order to boot of this drive.  If I configure
it as a user defined drive giving it the proper number of head/cyls/
sectors, I get a HD Error on boot.

I'l like to be able to access this drive from linux for downloading
DOS files and installing LILO.  

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
ted

   Ted Ede -- ted@world.std.com -- on contract at the Open Software Foundation
      -- All views expressed are mine unless explicitly stated otherwise --
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@caesar.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Which EtherNet to buy?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:44:10 GMT

In article <4eae7nu00aw=0JTEkk@andrew.cmu.edu> Court Demas <cd2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I'm looking to buy an ethernet card, and I was wondering if anybody has
>a suggestion as to a particular one to get.  I just don't want to buy
>something that is not going to work under Linux.  Have any ethernet
>drivers been written yet?  

Yes, only the WD8003 is supported.

>A card here at the computer star is 'SMC' or something and is pretty
>cheep (around $200)..

1.  It isn't supported.

2.  $200 for an ethernet board is twice what cheap is.  I've seen generic 
	boards for ~$100 at swaps and mail order.

>
-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: Ghostscript/Ghostview
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:28:24 GMT

Does ghostscript/ghostview need X11 to work, or will they make use of some
sort of non-X graphics lib?

Also, where are the sources for these two programs located?

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
From: ericy@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Standards (was: Stabilizing Linux)
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:59:32 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Aug16.234935.14600@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.221736.9732@athena.mit.edu> tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
>
>I've got a great idea.  Lets develop a modified mailing list that is split
>into 10 subgroups: linux-activists0 through linux-activists9.  Each person 
>could subscribe to any *one* of them that they like, but here is the catch.
>Each subscriber would be graded, between 0 and 9, after subscription, based
>upon the amount they have contributed to the Linux effort.  And (Oh, I love 
>this part), we could have a committee that would decide and revise that grade, 
>ya.  Linus, I assume, would get an automatic 9.   But maybe the committee 
>would decide that that was inappropriate. ;-)
>
>Now, whatever level a user subscribed to, he would only receive postings from
>users >= that grade.  ie. subscribing to linux-activists1, would automatically
>filter out all the zero's (and are there ever a chestfull of them out there
>to filter).  

	Hey, I like this idea.  I have one suggestion.  People at level zero
who post would have their postings thrown into the bit bucket.  :-)  Just for
fun we could send a copy back to the poster so that they think that it was
really posted.

-Eric
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com (Kevin W. Hammond)
Subject: Patch 1
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com (Kevin W. Hammond)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:38:12 GMT

I'm having trouble getting patch 1 for 0.97 via ftp mail at the moment.  The
need is farily hot.  Could some one please mail it?  If it's small enough,
I don't object to multiple copies, but if it's large (say over 100K) could
you mail first before sending?

Thanks.

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

                 Looking for a real operating system?  Try Linux.

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
From: dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: gcc can't find scandir or alphasort?
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:52:15 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I can't seem to find the answer.  I'm trying to
compile aXe-3.0.1 under linus-0.96c/gcc-2.2.2.  I cna't seem to get around the
fact that the subroutines alphasort and scandir seem to be missing.  Any help?

I just compiled aXe-3.0.1 on my office machine (an rs6000), and it's the best
mouse-based editor around.  Really nice features.  I know it'll work here once
I get around this problem, since commenting out that stuff got it going -
but of course it crashes when I ask it to sort a directory for a file.
-- 
Sincerely,

David L. Johnson                    ID:  dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
Christmas-Saucon Hall #14, rm 211        
Department of Mathematics

Lehigh University                   Telephone: 215-758-3759 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: pboot and msdos fs
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:29:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: comp

In article <WAYNE.92Aug31112018@gumby.ita.lgc.com> wayne@ita.lgc.com (Wayne McCormick) writes:
>
>First can someone tell me how to use pboot to change a bootimage to boot from
>the HD?
>
>Second, I have 0.97.1 installed and I can mount an msdos file system.  And as
>I've read before I can mount and read FROM the dos disk.  However I cannot
>write TO the dos disk.  Is there a fix for this?
>
>Thanks,
>Wayne
>--
>Wayne McCormick                  | Landmark/ITA, Inverse Theory & Applications
>wmccormick@ita.lgc.com           | Calgary, Alberta, Canada  
>                                 | Phone:(403) 269-4669

The only "pboot" I know of is my modification of Linus' "edit" program.
Its purpose is only to modify a boot image so that it will use the hard
disk as the root file system rather than use a floppy as the root file
system.
You still need to boot from a floppy until you install boolin, shoelace, 
lilo or some such.
-- 
Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: tsx-11.mit.edu
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:26:44 GMT

   From: geek+@CMU.EDU (Brian E. Gallew)
   Date: 31 Aug 92 09:11:29 GMT

   Is it down?  I can't seem to reach it anymore...

TSX-11 was down from Sunday morning until noon on Monday; it had locked
up due to a mbuf map full, and so it didn't come back until I came into
work today and rebooted it.  Sorry for the inconvenience....

						 - Ted
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Subject: Re: Creating/Formating a 200 MB partition.
Reply-To: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Organization: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:35:36 GMT

doug@owl.isis.org (Douglas W Murray) writes:
>Hi Linuxers...

>I am wondering if one of you might know how I should go about in doing a 
>'mkfs' for a 208 MB partition.  As it stands, here is what my drive partion 
>looks like:

>        Device Boot  Begin   Start      End  Blocks  Id  System
>     /dev/hda1  *        1      63    82655   41296+   6 DOS 16-bits >= 32M
>     /dev/hda2       82656   82656   164577   40961   81 Linux/MINIX
>     /dev/hda3      164578  164578   205539   20481   82 Linux swap
>     /dev/hda4      205540  205540   621934  208197+   5 Extended

you pretty much have three options:

	a) use the Alpha extended filesystem.. 
or 
	b) use efdisk and make additional paritions in the extended partition
	   (/dev/hda5 through hda8) that are all less than 64M (that being 
	   the size limit of the minix-style 'default' filesystem.)
or
	c) make one filesystem of <64M in /dev/hda4 and ignore the rest of
	   the space in tha partition.  (but b) is a better option than this)


NOTE: Although the extended filesystem is still in alpha release, I've been
      using it exclusively on my system (486/50, 16M - 8M swap, .97pl1.1)
      without a single problem that was not a direct result of a stupid action
      on my part.  So it is fairly stable.. but might not be backwards 
      compatible when the next version is released.

      It might be best to make additional partitions in /dev/hda4 and then
      use the extended filesystems in each... then to upgrade the filesystems
      without starting from scratch, tar one partition to another partition
      and then upgrade.... this allows maximum felxibility when you want to
      change the filesystem.
-- 
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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Beta TCP/IP 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:32:29 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Aug25.233806.11161@morrow.stanford.edu> bir7@leland.Stanford.EDU writes:

   Currently only the Western Digital Ethercard Plus and compatibles
   are supported (wd80[01]3 boards).  If you have a different ethernet
   board you will either have to write your own driver or wait until
   someone else does (There is someone who claims to be working on
   drivers for many different ethernet boards.)

Yes.  I'm going to get a NE2000 driver going first, because they're
so ubiquitious and cheap.  Any votes for what comes after that?
3Com's brand new 3c509 is a pretty high-tech card...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Background processes not dying on parent exit
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:54:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.040048.27053@athena.mit.edu> hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com writes:
>I'm not sure if this is a shell problem or OS problem.  I'll start with the
>OS....
>
>I ran a process in the background from tcsh with the ampersand (&).  I would
>have expected that when I logged out of the shell that my background processes
>would have died as well, but they didn't.

This is perfectly normal.

>Is the shell responsible for killing the background processes, or, since the

No.

>shell is the parent of them and has been terminated, shouldn't the OS kill
>the processes automatically?

No.

Under csh shells, the default behavior is to set the HUP signal handler 
to "ignore" for any processes started with &.  Ie, there is an implied 
nohup.  So, when you logout, sending a HUP signal to all your children,
they're allowed to ignore it.  

Bourne shells have a different behavior.

>I'm using tcsh 6.01 and linux 0.97pl2.
>
>-kwh-
>-- 
>Kevin W. Hammond
>hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
>
>  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161


-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: SLS installation on Adaptec 1542?
Summary: Problems reading the disk
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:48:50 GMT

    Has anyone successfully installed SLS on an Adaptec 1542 SCSI system?
I have one, and since I've had my system for awhile now and files are all
over the place, I thought I'd try an SLS installation and see how it came
out.

    I'd like to keep my existing partitions and just write over them,
since the rest of the disk has an SCO Unix volume that's a royal pain to
backup and restore.

    Well, the boot disk comes up, and sees the controller and both disks,
but when I try to mount /dev/sdb5 with -t ext, I get read errors and it
dies.

    I should say that my setup is all-extended filesystems on an extended
partition, but I thought that 0.96c worked with that.

    If nothing else, I've been trying to figure out how SLS does that
boot-time ramdisk load from the boot disk so I can use my own 0.97pl2 kernel.
Peter, since I can't seem to mail you, any chance I can get some info?
I looked at the kernel source included in the dist and didn't see anything
related to the RamImage file it came with.

    adTHANKSvance for any help anyone can offer.

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
One of the richest men in the world made his billions selling a toy "operating
system" that is more accurately described as a glorified bootstrap loader.
                                                  -- Phil Karn
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Subject: Re: Linux VESA local bus compatablitly question?
Reply-To: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Organization: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:13:35 GMT

philip@think.com (Philip Mucci) writes:
>	I want to buy a 486 with the VESA standard local bus architecture.
>This means that the 80x86 chip is on the motherboard, not on the local bus
>cards. My question is, if I go this route with an S3 local bus video card
>and an IDE - 32-bit local bus disk controller, will I be able to run Linux?
>(That reads: without a year of hacking)

Avoid the S3 chip.. go with an ET-4000 based video card.. (there are local
bus ET-4000 cards on the market with I/O & IDE also integrated).

X386 supports ET4000 well.. S3 is not supported *AT ALL*


>P.p.s. Will I really need 150Megs of disk space to get X running?

Only if you want to compile it yourself and/or install every X client 
you can find...

I have a fair X setup (all of the clients from banjo before it died)
in about 15M... 
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Upholder@uiuc.edu (BSD/ASCII mail)          retract this, but also
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From: rburns@key.COM (Randy Burns)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Is there a way to get tsx-ll.mit.edu:/pub/linux on 8mm DAT?
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:39:54 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced Systems, Fremont CA

Do any folks have plans to make available the /pub/linux contents on either
8mm DAT tape or on QIC tape? How much would it cost?


Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux