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From: marky@engin.umich.edu (Mark Anthony Young)
Subject: Re: CFL news
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 00:57:16 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

kdc@ccu.umanitoba.ca () writes:
> Playoffs started yesterday (November 15).
>In the East Hamilton beat Ottawa 29 to 28.   [...]
> 
>In the West, another close one. Edmonton defeated Saskatchewan by a score
>of 22 to 20 (in Edmonton).   [...]
>
Anyone have any news about CIAU football?

...mark young
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: unwelcome
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:29:00 GMT

I feel that I'm not altogether welcome on this newsgroup.

Laurence
From: bg959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel A. Mayer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Need info on Canadian govt
Date: 24 Nov 1992 04:31:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bg959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel A. Mayer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Could someone please help me out with some information on Canadian
government institutions? I teach  World Geography in San Antonio,
Texas, and am trying to prepare a lesson on comparative governments..
My questions are fairly specific...

1) The Senate - a) How are the seats apportioned amongst the provinces?
    b) Are the Senators elected or appointed? If appointed, by whom?
    c) What powers does the Senate have?
	(I have a student who has recently moved down here from Toronto,
        and he never even heard of the Senate, so I don't imagine it is
        very powerful....)

2) The Judiciary - a) Who appoints the judges?   b) Do they serve for
        life?    c) To what court, in the final instance, would citizens
	appeal if they felt themselves to be victims of an unconsti-
	tutional law?    d) What is the overall structure of the federal
	judiciary?

3) The Northwest Territories - Has this been divided into two
territories to be self-ruled by the Native peoples?  I read about this
plan last January, and haven't seen any follow-up.

If you feel these questions are too boring for the conference, please
answer by email to    jmayer@tenet.edu   .   Thanks!

Joel Mayer
Douglas MacArthur High School
San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.

-- 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:8718 rec.sport.baseball:33437
From: wall@cc.swarthmore.edu (Swarthmore College Computing Center)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,rec.sport.baseball
Subject: French baseball terms
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:36:28 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing CenterCenter

I seem to have lost my nascent list of baseball terms en francais. Would a
local Expos' fan be kind enough to direct me to a source? I'm looking for
both basic terminology and slang. Something like circuit = homer, tratteur
= pitcher, etc.

Apropos de la conversation des jours passees: j'essayerai ecrire en
francais la prochaine fois. J'habitais en Ontario quand j'etais jeune, mais
je n'ai jamais apprendre la langue ecrit. C'est a dire la lange francais. 

later, and merci en avance

- matt

wall@cc.swarthmore.edu


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: todd@juno.elcom.nitech.ac.jp (Todd Law)
Subject: Re: Dying for one's country (was Re: The Valour and the Horror)
Reply-To: todd@juno.elcom.nitech.ac.jp
Organization: Nagoya Institute of Technology, Nagoya ,Japan.
	<TODD.92Nov16134546@hera.elcom.nitech.ac.jp>
	<16NOV92.13783839.0067@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:48:19 GMT


ToddLaw>I forget who said it (maybe JFK) but only a fool dies for his
TL>country.  It is much better to live for one's country.

TomBox>Could you please explain how the Allies could have won WW2 without
TB>anyone being so foolish as to "die for his country"?  Given that
TB>there were a great many Germans ready to die for their country,
TB>what would you have had the Allies do?  Surrender?

Actually, if I remember correctly, a great many did surrender without
fighting to the death.  They were called POWs.  The distinction
between "foolish to die for one's country" and "to die foolishly for
one's country" should be pretty clear to you, shouldn't it?  And I
maintain that those members of the Blackwatch died for foolish
reasons (a foolish no-retreat policy, stubborn leadership).  If they
had accomplished something - anything - I would have a different
opinion.

And, as others have already pointed out, the point of war is to make the
other side's soldiers die for their country.

(Don't hold my opinions as a judgement in any way on the actual men
who died - they were caught in a much bigger situation beyond their
control - they should be pitied.)


Todd Law
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From: hammoud@cicb.fr (Mustapha Hammoud)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Antennes Large bande
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:36:05 GMT
Organization: CICB - Universite' de Rennes I - FR

Je cherche a joindre des laboratoires canadiens travaillant dans 
le domaine des antennes a large bande.
Plus particulierement des laboratoires interesses par un travail de
recherche dans le cadre des modelisations a tres large bande d'antennes
planaires.

Meric d avance.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics,can.followup
From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Subject: Re: Americans on English schools in Quebec (Was: Quebec)
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
	<BxyGsy.FxM.1@cs.cmu.edu> <BxzFM8.8xB@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:52:46 GMT

In article <BxzFM8.8xB@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:


   In article <BxyGsy.FxM.1@cs.cmu.edu> clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU writes:
   >No need for a law here; Quebec owns a television network!  Why doesn't
   >Radio Quebec dub it?  Also, an English-language broadcaster is not
   >necessarily also a French-language broadcaster (although it happens to
   >be currently), as is the case with cinemas.

   2 reasons against that: mission of RQ and ownership of rights.
   Radio-Quebec is an educative TV network and a cultural one.
   WHile they broadcast movies, most if not all series are either
   cultural, educative, societal or communauty oriented.  No place
   for anything like The Simpsons (TQS has the rights anyway) nor
   Star Trek (I'm afraid TQS has the rights too :-(  ).

Wait.  Now I am confused.  If TQS owns the (French) rights to the
Simpsons, what language are they showing it in?

   >1) Quebec didn't try the market approach in the case of signage.

   Before the law 101, it was the market approach and there were a lot
   of unilingual anglophone signs.

True.  I was thinking of organized consumer power though.

The movie distributors are an oligopoly.  There are, in contrast,
thosands of stores in Montreal.  If people avoided stores that did not
feature French signage, and explained why, these small stores would
have added French signs, all without Quebec having to legislate it.
(The downtown major department stores are effectively an oligopoly,
however, and I believe that direct pressure from Quebec City (and I
don't mean by passing a law) would have caused them to Francisize
their displays.  None complained to loudly about having to drop their
apostrophes, after all.)

Don't get the idea that I think that the French Language Charter is
bad.  I just take exception to certain parts of it.  (Mostly the parts
that were ruled unconstitutional by the courts.)

--
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School of Computer Science		UUCP: 	     uunet!"clamen@cs.cmu.edu"
Carnegie Mellon University		Phone: 	     +1 412 268 2145
5000 Forbes Avenue			Fax:	     +1 412 681 5739
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891, USA
From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: 1940
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:44:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: Msu.009640A4.A617F300
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

I don't know if this is the right group, but what the heck...

Can anyone tell me if/when Canada went on Daylight Savings Time during WWII?

Specifically, November of 1940--standard time or daylight savings time?

I know the U.S. went on DST in 1942, after joining the war.

Thanks for any help!

Cheryl  oopcv@trex.oscs.montana.edu
From: mousseau@paun02.pa.msu.edu (Normand Mousseau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Speaking French on newsgroups
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:46:12 GMT
Reply-To: mousseau@paun02.pa.msu.edu (Normand Mousseau)
Organization: Michigan State University



| 
|> hlynka@server.uwindsor.ca (Myron Hlynka) writes:

|> : Canada is officially bilingual only in the federal parliament and
|> : certain federal services (and New Brunswick). Canada is in fact a 
|> : multicultural country and we should expect lots of languages and viewpoints.
|> 
|
|	

	C'est vrai que le Canada est multiculturel toutefois je ne crois
pas qu'il y ait plus de deux langues qui fleurissent au Canada: francais
et anglais.  Quand je dis fleurir, j'entends qui sont dirigees vers le
futur et la creation culturelle.  Toutes les autres langues, coupees de leur centre de culture sont essentiellement mortes, i.e. qu'elles sont maintenant 
completement orientees vers le passe.  Le Canada est multiculturel 
en ce sens que la culture des differents immigrants est integree aux
deux principales cultures du Canada.  

	Je crois qu'il ne faut pas confondre la situation du Francais au
Canada avec celle du Chinois, de Pakistanais ou de l'Ukrainien. 


		Normand
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Race Riots in Toronto?
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:07:02 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (andy) writes:
>In article <43614@imag.imag.fr>, maffray@imag.fr (Frederic Maffray) says:
>>
>>The other day I read something which obliquely mentioned
>>Ugandans being the victims of racial riots in Toronto in the
>>1970s.  This did not ring my bell.  Were there race riots in
>>Toronto then?  On what occasion, why?  Were people killed?
>>Frederic Maffray

>I don't know about that, but I do know that in the late 70s and early 80s
>there was a bit of a game among teens involving pushing people of S.Asian
>origin (many of whom were refugees from Amin's Uganda, he ordered all S. Asians
>out of the country)often called "Pakis" off of subway platform into oncoming   
>trains.

Having lived there in the requisite time period, I remember one (1) 
incident where someone was pushed on to the TTC tracks in, I believe,
the Bathurst station. No train was coming, and no-one was hurt beyond
bruises. While there are always going to be intolerant people around,
and incidients like this, I don't think it qualified either as 
" a game" in any ongoing sense, nor as "racial riots".
 
If memory continues to serve, there were more incidents in Vancouver
with respect to Asian immigrants. Why, I don't know, except perhaps that
the relative influx may have been greater, which might have made for
higher visibility.

In a side note, there were several females who were raped, murdered
or both in the subway stations over that time period. But I suppose
that rates lower on your scale.


-- 
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-7986
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: simon@wotangate.sc.ti.com (Jean-Yves Simon)
Subject: Re: Referendum
Reply-To: simon@wotangate.sc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:30:13 GMT

Bonjour les Quebecois(es) !
Je sais que j'arrive en retard, je viens juste de decouvrir ce groupe donc mieux vaut tard que 
jamais. Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'expliquer les changements ou les non-changements apres le 
referendum, qu'est qui va changer au Quebec, j'etais a Montreal le mois dernier, juste pendant 
le debat Bourassa-Parizeau (pas sur de l'ortographe). J'ai vraiment adore Montreal, et comme 
chante Charlebois "je reviendrai a Montreal.."
La ou ca m'a surpris, c'est les magazins ou manifestement, certains employes ne voulaient faire
aucun effort pour parler francais, alors qu'a chaque fois , ou les employes etaient francophones,
eux n'avaient aucun probleme pour parler anglais.!! 

Merci d'avance pour vos reponses.
From: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: RE: Constitutional question/Question constitutionelle
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:07:22 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <2351.722521108@ohrid> sjaak@cca.vu.nl (Jacques Schuurman) writes:
>In a discussion recently, I argued with a friend as to the exact
>constitutional status of the country named Canada.  The question focussed
>on the formal head of state of Canada.  Who is it?  The British Queen?  I
>seem to remember having read that Canada actually lacks a head of state,
>and that it is the PM who occasionally forfills the head's tasks.
>Who can shed a light on this?
>
Yes, the Queen of Great Britain is also the Queen of Canada, and is our
head of state.  Her functions in Canada are normally performed by
an official called the Governor-General.  This is a person appointed,
usually for a term of 5 years, in theory by the Queen, but in
practice by the Prime Minister.  Until the 1950s, the Governor-General
was chosen from the British nobility, but since then he/she has been
Canadian, usually an ex-politician.  Usually the role of the Governor-
General is purely ceremonial -- for example, opening sessions of
Parliament, giving Royal Assent to legislation, awarding medals, etc.
The Prime Minister does not perform these tasks.

On rare occasions, however, the Governor-General can exercise
real powers.  For example, in 1926, the Governor-General refused
a request from the Prime Minister to dissolve Parliament and hold
elections, choosing instead to give the Leader of the Opposition a
chance to form a government.

The Governor-General is the Queen's representative for the federal
government.  Each provincial government also has a royal represen-
tative, called the Lieutenant Governor.

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:44:13 EST
From: andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: CFL news
 <BxtF60.D6q@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
 <DNF=yF=@engin.umich.edu>,<92323.0123242893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
 <1992Nov18.160344.19407@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>

In article <1992Nov18.160344.19407@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, jsodero@mta.ca says:
>
>In article <92323.0123242893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>, andy
><2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>In article <DNF=yF=@engin.umich.edu>, marky@engin.umich.edu (Mark Anthony
>Young)
>>says:
>(lines deleted)
>>>>
>>>Anyone have any news about CIAU football?
>>>
>>>...mark young
>>
>>Yes, it'll be the mighty Queen's Golden Gaels against some insignificant
>>team:)  (honestly I don't remember the name of the other team
>>maybe it's St Mary's, I'm not sure)
>
>  yes, Queen's will play the St Mary's Huskies
>but who could cheer for either of these obnoxious teams...
>personally I liked the small academic school vs small academic school
>match up of last year
>Of course I have no bias.....:)
>
Hey, I go to Queen's and I'm not rooting for the Gaels:)
From: CHESLEY@fox.nstn.ns.ca (John Chesley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Baha'i World Congress on Vision TV
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:33:44 GMT
Organization: Industry Science & Technology

From November 23th to 26th, some 30,000 Baha'is from over 180 countries 
(including many 1,000s from Canada) will gather in New York City at the 
Baha'i World Congress.

The Baha'i Faith has managed in the 100 years since the death of its 
founder - Baha'u'llah - to do something that no other religion has been able 
to accomplish: to remain unified.  Alone in this achievement among the 
world's religions, only the Baha'i Faith has remained free of sectarian 
division and schism.

The 1992 Baha'i World Congress, in the simplest terms, will be a celebration 
of this accomplishment and an explanation of what unity can mean to the 
world, underscoring the pressing need for worldwide racial, ethnic and 
national harmony.

You may watch extracts of the Congress on the Vision TV channel.  There will 
be a four-hour broadcast.  

The first two hours will show highlights of the first three days of the 
Congress and the last two hours will show the closing session of the 
Congress.

Times are Thursday, Nov. 26th at 7pm and then repeated at 
midnight,and Nov. 27th at 10am and 3pm.

I hope you enjoy it.



John Chesley
Dartmouth, N.S.
johnc@hfx001.ns.istc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca (stephen cooper 9209 U)
Subject: Re: S p E a K i n G F r E n C h O n N _ g R o U p S
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:01:48 GMT

In article <yogi.721829532@coombs> yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au (Michael Hanslip) writes:
>I think you are wrong. I grew up in Alberta and all of my friends can read
>French quite well. I don't claim to be bilingual as it takes me about 4 or 5 
>days in France to feel comfortable even speaking French, but I read French
>stuff all the time. I think many <30 year old Westerners are in the same
>situation.

Oui, j'ai ete eleve dans le Sud-Ouest de l'Ontario, et j'ai reussi a
apprendre le francais.  J'ai pas de probleme quand je le lis.  Je suis
d'avis que c'est grace aux cours obligatoires dans le systeme d'education
ici en Ontario et ailleurs.
-- 
Steve Cooper      |  Internet:  scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca
Waterloo, Ontario | "Je suis professeur.  C'est a dire que, hors d'une classe,
Canada!!          |  je ne suis bon a rien."  - Topaze
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:45:09 EST
From: andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Race Riots in Toronto?

In article <43614@imag.imag.fr>, maffray@imag.fr (Frederic Maffray) says:
>
>The other day I read something which obliquely mentioned
>Ugandans being the victims of racial riots in Toronto in the
>1970s.  This did not ring my bell.  Were there race riots in
>Toronto then?  On what occasion, why?  Were people killed?
>
>---
>Frederic Maffray

I don't know about that, but I do know that in the late 70s and early 80s
there was a bit of a game among teens involving pushing people of S.Asian
origin (many of whom were refugees from Amin's Uganda, he ordered all S. Asians
out of the country)often called "Pakis" off of subway platform into oncoming   g
trains.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: yachnin@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: seeking envir. info and to network
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:02:05 GMT



Hi there, 

	I'm a Ph.D. student studying Policy Sciences at the University
of Maryland, Baltimore County. My interest is environmental policy. 
My background is in chemistry, ecotoxicology, and now I'm working in 
the social sciences side (economics, political science, sociology).
Are there any environmental types out there that can keep me informed
on what is going on back in Canada. In other words, what new catastrophe
is Mulroney's government doing now. I'd be particularly interested to 
hear about the James Bay project (I'm from Montreal, Concordia University).
Also, I am also interested in any information relating to how free trade
affects the environment. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

			- Peter Yachnin (yachnin@umbc2.umbc.edu)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: sjaak@cca.vu.nl (Jacques Schuurman)
Subject: Constitutional question/Question constitutionelle
Keywords: King, Roi, (Le) president
Organization: VU Amsterdam - dienst CCA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:18:28 GMT

In a discussion recently, I argued with a friend as to the exact
constitutional status of the country named Canada.  The question focussed
on the formal head of state of Canada.  Who is it?  The British Queen?  I
seem to remember having read that Canada actually lacks a head of state,
and that it is the PM who occasionally forfills the head's tasks.
Who can shed a light on this?

Thank you in advance.


J'ai une question en regarde la situation constitutionelle du Canada.  On
se demande qui est le "chef d'etat".  Est-ce que c'est la Reine du
Royaume Uni?  Je croix que j'ai lu que le Canada n'a plus un chef d'etat,
mais, par des occasions particulaires, le Premier Ministre joue cette
role.
Qui peut donner clarification?

Merci d'avance.

Mais oui, pardonnez mon Francais, il'y a quelques ans quand j'ai prenez le
Francais pour le dernier fois- bolj ze govorim po slovenscino.

sjaak
-- 
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Telefoon +31 20 548 26 63      |    [ Mirko, pazi metak! Hvala Slavko! ]
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: turgd00@DMI.USherb.CA (DAVID TURGEON)
Subject: Re: Speakin French on Boards
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:56:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.160249.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> jbutt@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>To those who post in french.
>Go right ahead, its nice for a change.
>Merci et Au Revoir.
>
>Jon Butt
>Memorial University Nfld.
>

Merci Jon pour le support !!!
From: johne@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (John Eaton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Dying for one's country (was Re: The Valour and the Horror)
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:33:59 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

CZ94 (CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA) wrote:
: In article <TODD.92Nov16134546@hera.elcom.nitech.ac.jp> todd@hera.elcom.nitech.ac.jp (Todd Law) writes:
: >
: >I forget who said it (maybe JFK) but only a fool dies for his
: >country.  It is much better to live for one's country.
: >
: Could you please explain how the Allies could have won WW2 without
: anyone being so foolish as to "die for his country"?  Given that
: there were a great many Germans ready to die for their country,
: what would you have had the Allies do?  Surrender?
: 
: Tom Box
: CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
--------------------------
The quote by Gen George "Blood&Guts" Patten was that you don't win wars by
dieing for your country. You win wars by seeing to it that some other bastard
dies for his country.

John Eaton
!hp-vcd!johne