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From: Evelyn.Mchugh@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Evelyn Mchugh)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Paediatric accidents
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:03:00 -0800

BK=>We have had an increasing number of rather bizarre accidents over
the last
BK=>months.  They involve children with injuries of various severity
from havin
BK=>televisions falling on them, usually their heads.  Apparently the
child is

I don't think it's as strange as it sounds. Newer TV's have all their
weight in the picture tube. The rest of the components are basically
lightweight. Since the shape of the picture tube is an upright
rectangular box resting on a much thinner side, the TV's have a natural
tendency to fall forward, screen side down, if any weight is placed on
the upper edge of the front. Try (carefully) picking up a 19" set, and
this becomes obvious. Plus, TV's are often placed with the front edge
of
the set at, or overhanging their stand or shelf. Finally, most newer
TV's have an indentation in their case beneath the screen, where there
are controls, just like many monitors, thereby undercutting some of
the case's support for the heavy tube....

Kids often watch TV while sitting on the floor, in front of the set. If
another child gets up and happens to lean on the top edge of the set
(and kids, who are still learning to balance do this a lot!), the set
may land on the child on the floor. Or, on the child leaning on it,
especially if the set is tall, near the limit of the child's reach.
The bigger the screen on the set, the taller and thinner the case, and
the greater the instability of the shape.

I had a firsthand demonstration of just how easy it is to tip over a
set
last week when I helped my mother with her new 20" MTS set. MTS means
the set can receive stereo and has stereo speakers on either side of
the
picture tube. I had no problem with her old (circa 197X) set (except
for
the weight!), but I almost tipped the new one over twice when I was
setting it up by leaning on the top front edge while connecting the
leads in the back. The additional weight of the speakers in the front
make it even "tippier" than a normal set.

IMHO, it would be wise for parents to make sure that the set is set
back
several inches from the edge of the stand, and that little kids not be
left alone sitting on the floor in front of it!

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From: Walt.Young@f710.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Walt Young)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Think about it...
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:27:00 -0800

RF>Just something to think about when you're feeling down...
 
    (deleted)
 
 RF>  I just thought that those of you who work for any type of
 RF>municipality or government entity may appreciate this.  As well, it
may
 RF>apply to others as well.
 
 RF>  Hope it brightens your day!
 
 RF>  Happy holidays to all!!
 
 
 Thanks....I needed that!
 
 Hope you have a Super New Year!
 
    Walt
 
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From: Eugene.Kellogg@f135.n283.z1.fidonet.org (Eugene Kellogg)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: QUESTION: EMS COMPUTERS & SOFTWA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:13:27 -0800

 * Original to Glen Strecker at 1:390/2 in "SAR"
 * Forwarded Tue Dec 29 1992  21:13:27 by Glen Strecker at 1:390/2

The National Association for Search & Rescue (NASAR) has software
available for SAR.  NASAR Bookstore, P.O. Box 3709, Fairfax, VA  22038,
Phone (703)352-1349.  Another source might be the Emergency Response
Institute (ERI), 4537 Foxhall Drive NE, Olympia, WA  98506,
(206)491-7785.

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From: Pcrelay@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Pcrelay)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Undeliverable mail
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:25:00 -0800


-->I once had a Kide
--> fire extinguisher fail.  I purchased it around the middle of
-->1991 brand new from a department store (Sears or Wards...etc.)  I
don't
-->remember the exact model of the extinguisher, but it was a class ABC
with a
-->plastic body and nozzel, about 1.5 feet tall and 4 or so inches in
-->diameter.


Sounds identical to the one I had.

-->Nothing came out.
-->Apparently, the gas which charges the extinguisher had all escaped.
-->All of
-->the extinguishing agent, however, was still inside.
Same here but I didn't break off the nozzle Chris.  -->I suggest you
write to Ki

dde with all of the specifics of the incident and
-->the extinguisher and either 1) notify them for the purpose of
informing
-->them of a defect for their information or 2) notify them for the
purpose of
-->reimbursement or replacement.

I have already done so and they've agreed to provide me with a refund
when I
ship the old one back to them.

-->Who knows, the company might have to recall
-->some of their extinguishers if there is an inherant problem in their
-->pressure management.
Sounds that way!

1Merry Christmas!

Ohio Valley REACT Inc.

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:32:48 -0800
From:         rmccartn@CLN.ETC.BC.CA
Subject:      Re: Paediatric accidents

>brent@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent Kennedy) writes:
>
>
>>We have had an increasing number of rather bizarre accidents over the last few
>>months.  They involve children with injuries of various severity from having
>>televisions falling on them, usually their heads.  Apparently the child is
>>either climbing on the TV, or reaching up to turn it on, and pulls it over.
>
>Have you considered the possibility of non-accidental trauma?  It sounds like
>a good excuse for a parent, and I agree that the chance that a child would
>pull a TV on themselves is low.  I've been suspicious ever since I was called
>for an insect bite, and found a femur fx on a 3 yr. old.  :(
>
>/s/dan emt-p

If TV are portables then I suspect it is the fault of the TV Stand
W/wheels. The child pushes it back so the projection from the picture tube
hits the wall and  off it comes especially if there is a dust cloth under
it.
From: Brian.Matlock@p2.f54.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Matlock)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Headsets?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:40:31 -0800

On Sat, Dec 19, Rob Farmer wrote: 

 RF>     Does anyone have any information about the use of headset
useage in
 RF> their fire apparatus?  Not the shooting type, but those similar to
 RF> aviation (David Clark, Telex, etc..) type, with intercom throughout
all
 RF> firefighters, and radio transmission from the officer's seat and
pump
 RF> panel.

We've been using them in both of our engines for several months now.  

On the one hand, it is much easier to communicate in the engine while 
responding code-3, it allows both hands to be free to look in the map
book, 
etc.

On the bad side, there are more moving parts and we have had some
problem 
with the headset not trasmitting, it also reduces the "audio feel" of
the 
engine, it (of course) reduces all outside noise even traffic sounds.

All in all, I like them.  It is much easier to talk among the crew.

Brian
FF/EMT 2
  

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From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: amber / green lightsSKIP
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:14:01 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

James Campbell writes:
> SS>  just remembered, dash lights are illegal to use except for an
> SS>  unmarked PD car.
>  
> If a out of state fire fighter came into Pa. with a blue light on
> the dash (being legal in their own state), could they legally use
> it if they came upon an accident scene?
> Any information would be helpfull, I'm in Chester County a lot.
>  
I am a part-time police officer (long story) in Connecticut. If I was on patrol
and was dispatched to an MVA and there was already on scene an out of state 
vehicle with a trained person really helping in whatever capacity and they 
had a light (no matter what kind) on their vehicle I would welcome it.

   If that person was using it to help warn the oncoming traffic of the
accident so there wouldn't be any further problems, the out of state person 
would be doing a great service to those injured and to me (by not having to do
an accident report on a bigger accident). I would probably end up sending a 
letter to his/her chief praising their efforts.

   BUT ... if the out of state person was a real flamer and was more of a
hinderance to the situation, s/he would probably be going for a ride in my car,
in the back seat.

   All in all, it depends on how that person used it. When I go out of state,
I always pack my Whelan DashMaster II with a red and blue lens. If I ever come
across and accident (and often do) I use it to warn the oncoming traffic. As
always, I travel with my 'stuff' including flares. At least the strobes can
be utilized well before I can acess to situation for use of flares. I know the
strobe are illegal in all states being that I don't have a permit for that
combination but whoever sees them ahead of them on the highway knows there is
something going on and they slow down.

   To answer the question, the lights would not be legal in Connecticut, but 
the cops will be much too busy at an accident with other things to worry about
breaking them off on a real do-gooder.

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(either full or part-time). Void where prohibited. Your mileage may vary. Taxes
not included. Call now, operators standing by.

Enjoy the holidays, and let's be careful out there.


Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: kevin@mpls911.uucp (Kevin Herrboldt)
Subject: Re: Police News?
Organization: City of Minneapolis Emergency Communications
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:46:52 GMT

Dennis.Wareham@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Dennis Wareham) writes:
> I've been lurking around this newsgroup for awhile now, looking for some law
> enforcement related postings, but the emergency services topics covered seem to
> be limited to fire and EMS. Nothing against these services (I'm a former EMT and
> F.F. II myself), but I'm looking for a source of L.E. or criminal justice
> postings too.  Any ideas or leads from anyone?
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide..

Guess this newsgroup needs more people like you to post police-related stuff.
Since I work in a (civilian) combined communications center, I'm interested
in all three agencies (police, fire, EMS).

> Dennis...Burnsville (MN) P.D. <dennis.wareham@tdkt.kksys.com>

-- 
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Emergency Communications Center                     ...!mishima!mpls911!kevin
City Hall Room B-911, Mpls, MN  55415
(612) 348-7216
From: Kevin.Agard@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Agard)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Becoming an EMT...
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:18:00 -0800

LD>>   Correct, but the biggest fear that many Medics and EMT's have is
the
LD>>   possibility of running into that one patient who wants to spread
the
LD>>   virus because of his anger of having it. Granted most of the
patients
LD>>   who have the virus are very considerate of others but there is
that
LD>>   fear of running into the patient who isn't.

It's part of the job. Just like driving an E vehicle is ten times more
likely to be involved in an MVA that a "civilian" driver and four times
as likely to be a fatality. Goes with the territory.

KMA

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From: Doug.Plaza@f413.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Plaza)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Headsets
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:04:00 -0800

Although my department does not use headsets, as a pilot I do.  Believe
it or not, the price for "aviation" headsets and intercoms might be
lower than the identical "emergency" headsets and intercoms.  I own a
pair of David Clark H10-60 headsets and have nothing but positive
results.  You should be able to have a local radio shop adapt an
aviation intercom to plug into your radios.  Prices for "aviation"
David
Clark headsets start around $170 and you can purchase a 6 place
Sigtronics intercom for about $200.  You might want to pick up a
catalog
from Sporty's pilot shop phone 1-800-543-8633.  BTW I also have a
Sigtronics brand intercom which I have never had a problem with and
when
I have the chance I plan on making an interface for my EMS radio.
                               Good Luck!
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From: PLAWS@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Enough!
Date: 2 Jan 1993 09:00:38 -0600
Organization: University of Arkansas, Fayetteville
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      I just replied to a flame concerning the amount of Fido traffic that
now appears on m.e-s.  Much to my surprise, I got a tell from the listserv at
MARIST that my "message had been successfully ditributed to EMERG-L".  My
curiousity piqued, I did a susbscriber review and found that, lo and behold,
m.e-s has been gated to Fido for 2 YEARS!
      OK.
      So why did the group just get "overrun" with Fido mail in the last 2
MONTHS?  I (and many others) have noted this and many flame wars have broken
out. (Border skirmishes continue as we speak.)  Can someone explain why the
change in traffic flow occured?  Is there some way of getting the personal
stuff off?  (ie. "Saw Dave the other night...")


      Drive carefullly and wear your gloves...

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n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:16:42 EST
From:         Gary Kendall <KENDALLG@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Headsets...

A couple of rescue squads/fire departments in my area here are using the
"FireCom" system (I don't remember the manufacturer).  A friend gave me a demo
on their setup the other day:

   - up to 6 intercom circuits - 3 with radio transmit capability, 3 I/C only
     (multiple headsets can be "chained" on a single circuit; I don't know the
      total number of headsets that can be handled)
   - intercom is always "hot" (uses adjustable VOX)
   - transmit button on headset for radio; radio audio through headsets
   - adjustable headset volume; master volume on control unit
   - control unit has 30-second digital audio recorder - records all I/C and
     radio traffic; can be replayed through headsets; I/C still active during
     playback

Their system (2 headsets) was somewhere around $1300.  All in all, looks like
a nice setup; our squad may consider bying one for our crash truck.

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Gary F. Kendall      Christiansburg Rescue Squad - Christiansburg, VA
NREMT-P              KENDALLG@VTVM1.BITNET -or- kendallg@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
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From: Dale.Lamont@f321.n632.z3.fidonet.org (Dale Lamont)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Driving habits.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:32:00 -0800

    Steve,

 >
 >I can see how I missed the point, I naturally assumed you meant
driving
 >appliances, not POV's, as no state of Australia has LAS laws for
private
 >vehicles.
 >
    No worries I do it all the time, thats why I usualy ask the auther
if I am getting what he/she means.


 >The law in NSW still doesn't stop the driver with getting charged, if
there
 >is gross negligence then the law will carry - however there's a case
which
 >went to court yesterday in NSW about the fatal accident involving one
of
 >our pumpers late last year, it left the road and overturned, killing
the
 >Station Officer, the driver was charged with negligent driving, it
went to
 >court yesterday and he was found not guilty. That should be the end of
it,
 >but the police have a nasty habit of laying a charge of "drive in a
manner
 >dangerous" when a neg driving charge is dismissed.
 >
   Its good to see that he got a far break, its just a pitty the Police
get nasty when things don't go thier way.


    Hope you have a good Christmas and an uneventful one.

      CYL............

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From: Warren.Chou@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: tv trivia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:22:00 -0800

-> Code 3 isn't here (yet), however I saw an interview with Code 3's
-> producer/director when he was out here and he implied that some
Austr
-> footage would be used in upcoming episodes.

This past Saturday I saw Code 3 with some footage from Australia.  I
don't remember the city, but they were featuring the high angle rescue
team rescuing two men from a broken scaffolding 30 stories in the air.
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From: John.Nelson@f107.n105.z1.fidonet.org (John Nelson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Headsets?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:21:00 -0800

RF>    Does anyone have any information about the use of headset useage
in
RF>their fire apparatus?  Not the shooting type, but those similar to
RF>aviation (David Clark, Telex, etc..) type, with intercom throughout
all

Don't use them in my department, yet, but a cousin is a
captain in one that does. He says that, from an officer's
viewpoint, they are a godsend. First of all, hearing is
spared from siren, engine, and radio noise (loud speakers).
Second, discussion can go on between all crew members at
normal conversation levels. Makes for much CALM enroute the
scene.


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From: John.Nelson@f107.n105.z1.fidonet.org (John Nelson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: REACT --> CB 9
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 08:40:00 -0800

US>From: USR2879A@CBOS.UC.EDU

US>Ohio Valley REACT Inc. #2601, Cincinnati, OH; officially started its
US>Christmas
US>New Year's holiday monitoring campaign at Noon today.

US>We will make every attempt to have at least one member on the air 24
hours
US>a day... Until Sunday night then again over next weekend.

Most of us REALLY don't care...

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From: Lazlo.Toth@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Lazlo Toth)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Scanner's and a legal que
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:22:11 -0800

  Quoting a message from MHODOSH1 to ALL

MM| Quick question:
  |
  | Is it legal in NY to listen to portable phone (as in
  | cordless, NOT cellular) conversations over a scanner??

 Good question... I believe that the privacy issues in NY deal
primarily
 with =wired= telephones and have never been updated with technology.
 That being the case, the US Supreme Court ruling would hold -- in
other
 words, yes it is legal to listen to cordless telephones.

 However, NY law requires that if you make a tape recording of the
 conversation, at least ONE of the participants must know that the call
 is being recorded...

 And since this is OFF-TOPIC, I'll not say anything more...
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From: PLAWS@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Enough!
Date: 2 Jan 1993 08:37:00 -0600
Organization: University of Arkansas, Fayetteville
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>I don't know WHAT is causing it; I don't care!
>
>Perhaps it is just my feed of the newsgroup, but I am getting a helluva
>lot of personal traffic between readers that I personally do NOT care to
>hear.  I understand that this group is comprised of a variety of
>
<stuff deleted>
>
It's not just your site, Ian.  This group got fidoed in late Nov./early
Dec.  There are even people who claim to be the "moderator"!  I wish I
could find a way to set up a kill file for certain nodes...
>
Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the '60s|plaws@uafhp.uark.edu
n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet

Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the '60s|plaws@uafhp.uark.edu
n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet
From: Paul.Lilly@f415.n133.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Lilly)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Firefighter Needs Help
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:00:56 -0800

Everyone,
I have learned recently about a Firefighter here in Georgia that is in
desperate need of our help.  His name is Craig Samples, a 33-year old
Firefighter in Gwinnett County, Georgia.  Craig has been stricken with
Lou Gehrig's Disease, a muscular/neurological disease that renders the
body useless, even though the mind remains very alert.  Craig has spent
his life serving the public as a firefighter, and now, because of his
disease, he cannot even support his own family.  His disease has
progressed to the point that he can no longer even speak clearly.  In
addition, due to his condition, there is the added expense of wheel
chairs and other medical devices and services that are needed.  I am
asking everyone that reads this to please send a small donation to help
Craig.  Even $5.00 could make a big difference to him.  Donations can
be
made by sending it to the following address:

Craig Samples
C/O Partytown BBS
778 Windsor Circle
Lawrenceville, GA  30245-3119

All checks should be made payable directly to Craig Samples.  No money
sent will go to the proprietors of this or any other system.  All
donations will be forwarded directly to Craig.  I am doing what I can
to
help.  Can't you give just a little to this man who has given his
entire
life to his community.

Thank You

Paul Lilly
Sysop, Partytown BBS


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From: Chuck.Spafford@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Chuck Spafford)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: amber / green lights
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:48:00 -0800

 SS> Are there any states that allow all volunteers to run red lights
 SS> and siren??


  I think New Hampshire still does. A friend of mine ran with the
Francestown Rescue Squad and had red light/siren in his POV. Their
emergency vehicles ran blue lights/siren.
  What part of PA are you from? I'm in Eastern PA, Allentown-
Bethlehem-
Easton area to be more specific.
  On a similar note, my Dad was in France not too long ago and found
out
that people over there do not pull over for police, fire, or
ambulances.
Imagine that! People don't pull over! I wonder if they got that idea
from Pennsylvania?


Gotta run...


See ya,
Chuck


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