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From: HENKLE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU (Doug Henkle, Univ of Wis Oshkosh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Old Simon & Garfunkel
Date: 19 Nov 1992 11:40:59 -0600
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       (Bob Murphy):
       I once heard that Simon & Garfunkel put out an album when they were
       teenagers.  They apparently went under the name of Tom & Jerry.
  
     (Doug Henkle):
          Here you go, direct from pages 260-261 of the 1991 book, "Simon
     and Garfunkel: Old Friends - A Dual Biography", by Joseph Morella and
     Patricia Barey. ...
     ...
          There is no indication in the discography that any of the above
     has ever been issued on an album, ...
     ...
   (Perry Thompson - rcd. via E-mail):
   I have just a little something to add: the old Pickwick label
   acquired Simon & Garfunkel some time in the early sixties.  "Hey
   Schoolgirl" appears on an LP called SIMON AND GARFUNKEL.  The cover
   photo shows them about to board a plane.  There's no mention of Tom &
   Jerry or any of the other aliases.  I've seen a sealed mono copy of
   this album in a collector's record store for $125 and the stereo
   version for $50.  Pickwick was using Lou Reed as an in-house
   songwriter about this time as well.  When Pickwick was bought out (by
   RCA, I think) in the mid '60s, all the old S&G and Lou Reed material
   suddenly became very hard to find.  Perhaps this Pickwick recording
   should be added to your list of 9 rare items to search for.

     I'm sorry.  My statement above, that the book's discography did not
list a Tom and Jerry album, was in error.  I was working from photocopies
I made several months ago.  Perry's response prompted me to go back to the
Public Library to check the book again.  Sure enough, I had misplaced a
photocopy page.  On page 253, was the listing below.  I don't know what
the authors mean by "Rip Off".  Maybe it was issued without S&G's
permission. ?

1966

Simon and Garfunkel                                  Pickwick SPC 3059

(Rip Off Album): "Hey Schoolgirl" / "Dancin' Wild" / "Our Song" /
"Teen Age Fool" / "True Or False" / "Tia-juana Blues" / "Simon Says" /
"Don't Say Goodbye" / "Two Teen Agers" / "That's My Story"

                                  Doug
                            henkle@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Iris Dement (sp?) recordings?
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:23:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.004158.22682@col.hp.com> judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller) writes:

   > #>   Any Iris Dement (sp?) fans out there?

   Not me ... I heard the NPR interview.

   I'm very literal, so is she poking fun or is she for real?
   I guess I don't get it.

   Of course, I didn't like Suzanne Vega at first either, so first 
   impressions don't always work for me.

I didn't hear the NPR interview, but did hear interviews on two Boston
stations (back in August).  She sounded very genuine to me.  I recently
bought "Infamous Angel" and like it very much.


--
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Martin@cis.umassd.edu
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From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Subject: Andy Stewart Songbook
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:13:24 GMT

Does anyone know where I might be able to get a copy of a book
titled "The Andy Stewart Songbook"?  I've tried ordering it at
various music and other book stores, but with no success, since
it's apparently published in Scotland.
For that matter, does anyone have it that could tell me if it's
worth buying (especially if I'm going to have to pay the cost
of importing it)?
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From: ndelcogl@scott.skidmore.edu (nicole delcogliano)
Subject: new folk artists
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:30:28 GMT

The area of Saratoga Springs is showing a great interest in folk music
as it always has, starting with Dylan. Two new artists you should
check out are Roseanne Raneri, who may be making a demo soon. She
plays at Cafe Lenna's a lot and at Falstaff's , a coffeehouse on the
Skidmore campus. Also a Skidmore student Torey Adler is showing great
enterprise as  a musician. He's very Dylan like. Check it out.
From: scottm@spruce.ppc.ubc.ca (Scott Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Old Simon & Garfunkel
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:43:08 GMT
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In article <01GR97B34FTS00008P@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>, HENKLE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU (Doug Henkle, Univ of Wis Oshkosh) writes:
|> >(Bob Murphy):
|> >I once heard that Simon & Garfunkel put out an album when they were
|> >teenagers.  They apparently went under the name of Tom & Jerry.
|> >I've looked in phonologs and used album stores but I've never found such
|> >an album.  Does it really exist???

|>      Plus, the discography also lists 18 more solo singles, all issued
|> under pseudonyms between 1958 and 1963: Art as "Artie Garr" (2); and
|> Paul as "True Taylor" (1), "Tico" of "Tico and the Triumphs" (4),
|> "Jerry Landis" (10) and "Paul Kane" (1).
|> 
|>      There is no indication in the discography that any of the above has
|> ever been issued on an album, or that Art ever recorded anything solo as
|> "Tom Graph".  But then, because it does not list any post-S&G solo
|> singles, it does not claim to be a "complete" discography.
|> 
|>                                   Doug
|>                             henkle@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu

Yes, this album does exist. My uncle has it and played it for me once in the early 70's.
Next time I'm in Montreal I'll track it down and let y'all know the details.
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From: jacob@cs.swarthmore.edu (Jacob Mattison)
Subject: Re: _Short,Sharp,Shocked_ Mystery Track
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:40:34 GMT

crittend@dali.cs.unc.edu (bac) writes:

>at the end of Michelle Shocked's _Short,Sharp,Shocked_ CD there is a
>bonus track that isn't mentioned in the liner notes.  the song is
>quite different from the east texas folk music comprising the album in
>that it's a very fast, thrashing, screaming song with a male vocalist
>with female accompaniment.

>i vaguely recall an explanation for this but don't remember it.  would
>someone who knows kindly enlighten me?

>thanks,
>brad

I can't enlighten all that much;  the song is a version of her song
"Fogtown", which appears on her first album _Texas Campfire Tapes_.  As I
understand it, Shocked never wanted that album released, so perhaps she's
making up for that.  At any rate, each of her albums since has had
one remake from that first album:  "Fogtown" on _Short Sharp Shocked_,
"Don't You Mess Around With My Little Sister" on _Captain Swing_, and
"The Secret of a Long Life is Knowing When It's Time To Go" on
_Arkansas Traveler_.

What I _don't_ know, unfortunately, is who plays on the "bonus track" 
version of "Fogtown".
                                                      Jacob
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                              Jacob Mattison
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From: kb7uv@panix.com (Andy Funk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: "Put Another Log On The Fire" et al
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:50:38 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

I'm looking at my copy of "Wanted! The Outlaws" Waylon Jennings, Willie
Nelson, Jessi Colter & Tompall Glaser.  Tompall *sang* the song on the
album, but it's credited as being written by Shel Silverstein.
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From: ss5774@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: neil young's wanderings
Reply-To: ss5774@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:51:15 GMT

    field, joined CS&N, formed Crazy Horse, and played with the most folksy
    Stray Gators. 
    Stray Gators on the monumental album "Harvest." Young can rightfully be 
    said to be a major influence through several genres of music. 

    Twenty years after "Harvest" he has now given us "Harvest Moon," featur-
    ing the Stray Gators, Linda Ronstadt, James Taylor, and Nicolette Larson.
    This new album was given 4 stars out of 5. However, the only song played
    This new album was given 4 stars out of 5 by Rolling Stone. However, the
    only song played with a banjo, "Old King," was termed as "corny." After
    reading the review, I read the review of Madonna's new CD "Erotica." I 
     was greatly dismayed to see that this album also was given 4 stars. 
    Indeed, Rolling Stone, too, is succumbing to the "evils" of the pop 
    industry. 
 
    Anyway, it's great to see Neil Young shift gears from grungy Crazy Horse
    rock'n'roll to a more earthy, country-folkish kind of music. 

    rock'n'roll to a more earthy, country-folkish kind of music. 
    
    Does anyone out there know about Young/Stray Gators tour dates. If so,
    please e-mail them to me. Thanks a lot. 

    If anyone has the album and has past Young albums, don't you think the 
    sound on Harvest Moon sounds like the "On the Beach" LP. Neil's 
    harmonica really brings back nostalgic memories.  

       "LONG MAY YOU RUN"                             

                                             --Montezuma
From: mcclosk@cats.ucsc.edu (James McCloskey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Maire Ni Bhraonain
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:10:50 GMT
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In article 13901 Michael Helm (mike@inti.lbl.gov) asks:

|> Does the Brennan family own/run (or did they used to ...) a pub in
|> Donegal?  I was told a story a while back by someone who had returned
|> from vacation in Donegal, who was driving along the road & stopped at
|> a pub for refreshments; reported location of which I have forgotten.
|> The pub was owned by members of the family & the vacationers got an
|> earful about Clannad & Enya, & of course helped their album sales
|> figures in the process.  If this is for real, any idea where it
|> would be?


Yeah--"Leo's" in M\'in na Leice, (Meenaleck) on the road between
Anagaire (Annagry) and Gaoth Dobhair (Gweedore). Not the nicest pub
unfortunately (it's one of those barn-like places) but there's often
wonderful music there.

Leo Brennan used to be a band-leader who travelled round from
dance-hall to dance-hall playing whatever was popular, but jazz
whenever he could. He married a woman from Dobhar (almost the
southernmost part of Gaoth Dobhair parish), settled down, opened the
pub (and perforce learned Irish).  That part of the Donegal Gaeltacht
is famously rich in its folksong tradition and local song is an
important part of the school curriculum. So Ciar\'an, P\'ol, M\'aire
and Eithne grew up with traditional songs in Irish all round them, in
the family and in school, but with a livingroom full of Charlie Mingus
records also.

Jim McCloskey
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Music to calm down by
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:58:06 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England


In article <3346@voodoo.UUCP>, das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes...
>At work these days, I seem to be in a constant state of stress, and have
>been thinking that some soothing music might help greatly.  What are people's
>favorite calming folk tunes?  I like all kinds of folk music, so it can be
>from any tradition, as long as it has a soothing effect.  Some pointers to
>specific albums would be great.
> 
 Just about anything by Enya

	Craig

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From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Instrumental Irish music in England...listening, playing
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:24:13 GMT
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I'm moving to England this year, Brighton in particular, and I play Irish  
music (button accordian and piano backup).  I suppose it may seem obvious  
that proximity to Irelend and Scotland will increase the amount of  
opportunities to hear and play Irish music, but I wonder how true it  
really is?  Who knows, maybe there are more Irish pubs with active  
sessions in Boston and Chicago than there are in London.

Can anyone give me an account of just how much enthusiasm there is for  
playing Irish music in England itself?  Pubs with sessions that I can sit  
in on with my accordian?  Lots of folks who play Irish fiddle music for  
fun?  Specific details on Brighton appreciated.
--
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From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Celtic Fiddle Festival; was Re: The Ark - November Schedule
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:58:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Nov17.075826.29416
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

In article <1992Nov16.203952.21916@icd.ab.com> collicot@brutus.aa.ab.com (Duane E. Collicott) writes:
>  Thursday, 19  Celtic Fiddle Festival - Kevin Burke, Johnny Cunningham and
>                Christian LeMaitre. 2 shows at 7:00 and 9:30. Advance tickets.

and John McCann (sp?) on amazingly good guitar accompaniment.
I hope he's along for the whole tour, though he's not in the ads.
Its really impressive how important a little good backing can be,
even in back of high-octane fiddle virtuosos.

You may be thinking something along the lines of "I'll wait 'til each one
comes back alone & does a whole 2-hour set"---don't wait.

The set they do together is by far the best part of this or any evening..
the good news, if they're not hitting your town, is that they said 
in Somerville Mass that they were planning to record a future date
...the bad news is that they didn't record the Somerville concert..
they were flying.
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: _Short,Sharp,Shocked_ Mystery Track
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:25:58
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In-reply-to: crittend@dali.cs.unc.edu's message of 16 Nov 92 15:02:30 GMT

In article <17561@borg.cs.unc.edu> crittend@dali.cs.unc.edu (bac) writes:
>at the end of Michelle Shocked's _Short,Sharp,Shocked_ CD there is a
>bonus track that isn't mentioned in the liner notes.  the song is
>quite different from the east texas folk music comprising the album in
>that it's a very fast, thrashing, screaming song with a male vocalist
>with female accompaniment.

This is "Fogtown," which is also (in a much more folk version) on The
Texas Campfire Tapes.  The band doing it is MDC (based in San Francisco,
I believe) and the "female vocalist" is Michelle Shocked.

Muffy
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 discerned/all these years of thinking/ended up like this/in front
 of all this beauty/understanding nothing~ - Bruce Cockburn
From: dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Lyrics: The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:28:51 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University, Graduate School of Management, Newark, N.J.

In <ajb.722095798@hela.iti.org> ajb@iti.org (Al Boehnlein) writes:

   I was wondering if it ["good ship and true" -- DMR] might be:

   "good ship in true"

   meaning that it was rigged and trimmed(and what ever they do with ships)
   correctly.

Bicycle wheels maybe, but ships?  :-)
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From: sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: "New" Mary Black Album
Date: 17 Nov 1992 16:00:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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I picked up what appeared to be a "new" Mary Black album
on Sunday. I put "new" in quotation marks because,
although the release date is 1992, 7 of the 14 cuts are
from two albums I already had and some are from two other
previous albums. I wish that had been more clear on the
outside of the package; still it is a great collection,
which is the title of the album. The particulars follow
for anyone who may be interested:

Mary Black
the collection
Telstar TCD 2597 (Telstar Records Plc., Prospect Studios,
Barnes High Street, Barnes, London SW13 9LE)

The Moon and St. Christopher    New
No Frontiers            from No Frontiers
Babes in the Wood       from Babes in the Wood
Carolina Rua            from No Frontiers
Katie                   from By the Time It Gets Dark
Columbus                from No Frontiers
Adam at the Window      from Babes in the Wood
Ellis Island            from Without the Fanfare
Bright Blue Rose        from Babes in the Wood
Vanities                from No Frontiers
Only a Woman's Heart    New
Song for Ireland        from Collected
Tearing up the Town     New
There's a Train That Leaves Tonight   from Without the Fanfare

The cover also notes that it is also available on
MC - STAC 2597 (presumably a cassette) and that
selected tracks are available on the Telstar Video
Entertainments Release, "Mary Black the collection live."
[How studio recordings can be live, I'm not sure. :<{]

In conclusion, there's plenty of blank space on the outside
of the CD in which it could have been said that this one is
a best-of compilation with 3 new recordings. Be prepared to
pay a lot for this CD as it's an import.

Steve Goldfield
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From: robd@cherry09.cray.com (Robert Derrick)
Subject: Re: Bob Roberts
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Date: 23 Nov 92 10:28:11 CST

Jama Chorush (Jama_Chorush@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote:
: Is it true that all of the songs from the movie "Bob Roberts" are set to the
: tunes of folk songs of the sixties?  And if so, can anybody tell me what
: those songs are?  I only recognized "The Times They Are A Changing (Back)"
: and "Subterrean Homesick Blues."  Thanks.
: 
:                                    Jama Chorush

He also did a takeoff of Phil Ochs' "What Did You Learn In School?".

Two notes:  Don't go looking for the Soundtrack - you won't find it.
		Tim Robbins made it a condition that these songs would
		_not_ be released.  He does not want anyone singing any
		of these things for real!

	    The very last song of the movie, in case you didn't wait for
		all of the credits, was Woody Guthrie singing "I Gotta Know",
		with a political flavor somewhat left of all of Bob's songs.
		It is also in "Rise Up Singing".


--

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From: sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: McGarrigle Sisters: One More for Discography
Date: 16 Nov 1992 16:22:24 GMT
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I've mentioned this CD twice without giving details,
and I haven't seen it in the many discographies posted
here. So, here's the full informaton:

Variety Recordings 3 (which is produced by Radio Variety
and copyright 1990 by Canadian Broadcasting Corporation/
Societe Radio-Canada) has five cuts by Kate and Anna and
four by Bill Bourne and Alan MacLeod.

The five by Kate and Anna include:

As Fast as My Feet
The Wild Goose
Gwen's Bike Song
Talk about It
My Mother Is the Ocean Sea

The Wild Goose and My Mother Is the Ocean Sea are both
by Wade Hemsworth, who rates a special mention in the
notes. The other three are by Kate and Anna. Gwen's Bike
Song was written, along with six other McGarrigle songs,
for the film, "Move over Moon." (Has anyone seen that film?)
The notes mention that the recordings were made specially
for CBC.

Steve Goldfield
From: ebstokes@maxwell.crd.ge.com (Ed Stokes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: "Put Another Log On The Fire"
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:04:42 GMT
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

From memory, this is the chorus (flames to /dev/null, I didn't
write them, I just remember them):

> Put another log on the fire
> Cook me up some bacon and some beans
> Go out to the car and jack it up and change the tire
> Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans
> C'mon baby you can light my pipe and then go fetch my slippers
> Boil me up another pot of tea
> Put another log on the fire
> Then come and tell me why you're leaving me

The song was written by Tompall Glaser and can be found on the
~1975 "Outlaws" compilation record featuring Willie Nelson,
Waylon Jennings, Jesse Colter, and Tompall Glaser. I think
that this was on the RCA label. Don't know if it's on CD.

Not to be confused with the rock and roll Outlaws of the
same era.

Ed Stokes
ebstokes@crd.ge.com
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From: rblackma@nyx.cs.du.edu (robert blackman)
Subject: Dick Gaughan records
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 13:53:05 GMT

Dick Gaughan and Andy Irvine's album "Parallel Lines" is still in
print in the U.S., as Green Linnet 3201, but so far only on cassette..
However, since Green Linnet has gradually been reissuing many of their
older albums on CD, there may be hope for an eventual CD of this one.M

-- Bob Blackman, WKAR Radio, East Lansing, MI
From: wgreene@oldblev.lonestar.org (Wayne Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Hear Music Company
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 08:41:45 CST
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> The Continental Airlines in flight magazine recently ran a story
> on the Hear Music Company of Wellesley, Mass. and their music
> catalogue, which it characterized as aimed at baby boomers and 
> "offering important blues, jazz, and folk releases for a 
> market developing an interest in music they had no knowledge
> of."  No address was included, however.
> 
> Anybody familiar with this catalogue?  If so, what do you
> think of it and where can I write to receive it?
> 
Hear Music Catalog, 37 Walnut Street, Wellesley Hills, MA 02181.
Limited selection, but all are dynamite.  Prices are pretty much
retail,.


    Wayne G.

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