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From: sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA)
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:51:03 GMT

Mike Dunnagan writes:
>Chris Metzler:
>
>ME> Helluva game, folks!
>
>Yep
>
>ME> What did people think?  I was very impressed with Travis Best.
>
>I thought Tech would struggle with him on the bench. Those fouls really
>hurt. God why is it that Duke gets so many calls their way. It's crazy
>when you look at how many foul shots they took compared to Tech. Is it
>because of their agressive offense or what?
>
>ME> I was not very impressed with any of the Dookies but Grant Hill.
>ME> He had a good game, but I don't think as great as the announcers
>ME> seemed to think.  Sometimes it seemed like they'd heap praise
>ME> on him if he burped, but that's my opinion.
>
>Well he is awesome. He deserved all their praise and then some. Did you
>see that one baseline shot where he was almost horizontal, and he made the
>shot. He's incredibly athletic. 

Grant Hill is very, VERY athletic and is a great player, but he gets better
press than anyone in college b-ball, save his coach. The commentating on his 
skills is better at the local ACC telecast level because the announcers don't 
have to artificially build him up as the next coming of <insert favorite player 
of the past>. I hope this doesn't hurt him in terms of expectations, considering
that he is following in the footsteps of one of the truly greatest (if not most
arrogant) ACC players ever, CL. 

But, yeah, he is a great player. If you like him, wait 'til you see Stackhouse
next year!! :( for us non-UNC fans

>This was a classic ACC game, and it was fun to watch. The one thing that
>pissed me off was the foul they gave to Mackey on that screen. Hey, that
>was no foul. Hurley ran into Mackey, plain and simple. I'm starting to
>think these media darlings get special treatment. <g>

It was indeed a very good game, esp. considering how early in the conference
schedule it is. The announcers made a comment as to how Tech looks like a
strong contender for a Final 4 spot. Well, that's a bit optimistic, but Tech
showed a lot more character than they have in close ACC games in the past. I
was especially impressed by Drew Barry. He's got guts!! Funny how just before
the game I was thinking how much more suspectible Duke is to conference losses 
this year as opposed to last (year).

And yes, Duke is a team of media darlings.

Duke-UNC should be awesome games this year!
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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: KU thumps Oklahoma in Norman
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 13:23:02 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1iusdsINN9uk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>Ok, how's this for some Big-8 talk: Kansas is peaking early, as usual. ;)
>Really, you failed to mention he true force in the game, Adonis Jordan.  He


true but inconsistent.  You never know when he's going to show up.
 
 
Last night's game was bizarre.  I've never seen such a radical  
change in play; it was like two different teams showed up to play.
Let`s hope just one shows up in The Big Dance ;)


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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: ACC UPDATE - SCHEDULE & STANDINGS (1-11-92)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:21:17 GMT

ACC STANDINGS

UNC		2-0
Duke		1-0
Ga Tech		2-0
UVa		2-0
Duke		1-1
FSU		1-1
Wake		0-1
Clemson		0-1
NCSU		0-1
Clemson		0-1
NCSU		0-2
Maryland	0-2

Saturday's Night Game

	NC STATE 53, Virginia 76.  UVa continued the nation's 
	longest winnning streak in a Raleigh triumph.

Sunday's Game

	GEORGIA TECH 80, Duke 79.  The Jackets jumped out to
	an early 12-0 lead, but Duke battled back for a single
	digit halftime deficit, mostly on the strength of their
	performance from the line.  Duke eventually tied the game,
	but Tech battled back on the strong performances of freshmen
	Drew Barry and Martice Moore to take a 3 point lead into the
	final 50 seconds.  Hurley held the ball for 35 seconds, and
	then missed a three out of a double team resulting in a Tech
	rebound and a quick Duke foul.  Two made freethrows put GT up
	by 5 with 12 seconds left.  A quick 2 by Hurley (with his toe
	on the 3 point line) took the margin back to 3 with 6 seconds
	left, but Tech converted the second of two foul shots to cinch
	victory - a 3 pointer by Clark determined the final margin.  

	Tech will no doubt crack the Top 10 in the Crazed Lunatic poll.


> Upcoming ACC Games - times EST PM
> (Schedule is from the 1993 ACC Yearbook - times "Subject to Change")
> 
> 
> J11:	NCSU @ Davidson, 7:30
> 
> J13:	Maryland @ FSU, 7:00
> 	Duke @ Wake, 7:00  ESPN
> 	Clemson @ UVa, 7:30
> 	Tech @ UNC, 8:00  ACC/Raycom


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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke - Georgia Tech
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:42:34 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <hellfire.726707589@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> hellfire@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Brian Young) writes:
>Mashburn to win it.  Anyway, congrats to a fellow engineering school and a 
>hell of a team, go gentle on us in Raleigh!

WE'll try.

- Rob Mac K
Duke Engineering



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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Ga. Tech
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:46:26 GMT


In an earlier post I claimed that Georgia Tech. didn't belong in a
list that included the likes of Indiana, Kansas, and North Carolina.
I guess I was wrong.  Way to go, Yellowjackets!  Up next, North
Carolina.  Can they do it again??



-Alan Harder                
 Go Blue!                   

 My opinions are not the opinions of the American Mathematical Society.
 Did you think they were?
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:31:53 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu 
(Chris Metzler) writes:

>What did people think?

I, being a Duke fan, think Grant Hill should stop taking so many three-point
shots, the whole Duke team practice free throw more, Cherokee Parks 
play more aggressive and make his presence more known (I'm already missing 
Christian Laettner), Bobby Hurley hit more of his three-point shots, 
Marty Clark get a starting position (he certainly has improved a lot 
and is a great hustler), etc.

I believe that this game shows the difference between the Duke teams 
of last year and this year.  However, knowing Coach Krzyzewski, he'll
certainly do something.

Congratulations to Georgia Tech for playing a great game and winning
the game.


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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re:  UNC vs NCSU
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:39:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.143118.26239@mlb.semi.harris.com> dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com writes:
>
>So what was the score?  I was not by a TV last night.  Someone at work said
>that NC State had 3 players declared ineligible before the game so I can
>imagine that only made it worse!  Did the Wolfpack have to call guys down 
>from the stands to suit up and play?

UNC 100 NCSU 67.   To make matters worse, what you heard is correct.
As if NCSU didn't have enough problems this season, they now have
three players declared academically ineligible this season.  Looks
like they'll play the role of ACC doormat this season.  I forgot who
the players were, but included their #4 and #5 scorers.


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From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Subject: Re: Request:  ACC Update:  Fill a Void
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:26:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.020350.25789@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.215052.17153@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> kthompso@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan7.211615.9193@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>>
>>>info newspaper, the Osceola, that I normally get my stats and stuff from
>>>does not give a full-scale overview of the ACC. My problem is this: I'm

One thing you (plural)  could try is seeing whether you can get the reports
from Associate Press via Clarinet. I don't think they're part of the usual
Clarinet distribution, but all Brad can say is no...

Or, if you're feeling rich or have someone else paying your phone bills,
you could try the News and Observer cityline (919)-549-5100, using code
6650 for local sports scores. This is just an ordinary phone call, not a 
1-900-GO-HEELS :-)

One really nice thing which the N&O did during the rainbow classic was offer
a fax service for games finishing (or starting) after they'd put the 
paper to bed. IF you gave them your fax number, they'd send the report to
your desktop. Not that I particularly wanted to be reminded :-)

By the way, as a general comment, I'm a Limey, and I've only been working 
at Carolina for a few months, but I must say how impressed I am by the quality
of college basketball in the US. In the UK, basketball as a pro sport is 
virtually non-existant. I spent '91 working in Israel, which is second only
to Croatia in European hoops, and based on what I've seen, most of the
top 10 or so teams would be more than a match of Maccabi Tel Aviv, and could
probably give Pop Split a run for their money.

Simon
Simon

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: GTown, UMD (Was: Re: Asleep at the wheel, vacations, and crow.)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:55:27 GMT

In article <XJAM.93Jan9013931@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU  
(The Crossjammer) writes:
> Okay, so I go on vacation for three weeks, come back and look 900+ articles
> in r.s.bb.c in the face and a Georgetown loss to *Miami* to boot. I'm just
> waiting to get an earful from all the Hoya haters. The result?
> 
> Zip, nada, nil, nothing. And I was all ready to eat crow.

OK, how about G'town-Boston College today at the Cap Center?

> Meanwhile, I don't know what to make of Maryland.

After their first two ACC games, I have some idea.  


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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: HOW DID BRADLEY LOSE TO TULSA?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:21:06 CST

In article <klewis.62.726853288@AFIT.AF.MIL> klewis@AFIT.AF.MIL writes:
>SOME1 PLEASE TELL ME HOW DID BU LOSE TO TULSA.  DID DEION JACKSON FARE WELL 
>AGAINT TULSA?  POINTS, REBOUNDS, ASST, BKS, STLS, ETC...  PLEASE INFORM ME.
>
>
>KEITH

Ouch.  You don't have to yell.  :^)
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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Trash talking %^$#@*)(
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:59:12 GMT

Orin Day:

> A recent radio report stated that the Georgia football coach thought
> that the most serious problem in college sport was trash talking.
> Opinions?

I can't say from a coache's or player's perspective, but from a fan's
perspective, I think it can get carried away. I learned early on in life
that talking about someone's favorite team can carry the same conseqeunces
as talking about someone's mother. Granted most of it is uneventful stuff,
but I have seen bad things.  For instance a friend of mine's husband is a UNC
fan, while his brother-in-law is a Duke fan, and after Duke won again the
National Championship, this over zealous fan painted DUKE #1 in dark blue
OIL based paint in the front yard of the UNC fan's home. It ruined the
grass because the paint was oil based instead of water based, and it
polarized the family. 

On a side note and this is not a cheap attempt to talk about a Carolina
victory, but I heard Mick Mixon (UNC radio announcer) on some talk show.
He said "it was great that the Heels won, but between the drunken, in-bred
hillbillies, and the cow bells, I was ready to get out of that place." I
guess the Miss. St. fans were really talking junk. So yes, I think it can
be a problem (especially where there is alcohol involved). 

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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:19:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1993Jan12.205139.20440@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>Chris Washington was always a good shooter.  I don't remember him
>losing his touch like Drew or Dreher.  

Really? I always thought Chris was a bad jumpshooter, but pretty decent off
the drive. I remember a time when I thought he was better than KJ off the
dribble because KJ could only go right.

>Did you *see* Ryan Drew play?  He shot the lights out his freshman year.
>He came back the next 3 seasons and made what seemed like 15% of his
>3 pointers.

Not to defend Campanelli as a coach, but does in not seem more likely that
Drews freshman year was a fluke and the last 3 were his real ability level?
I admit Lou mishandled him, but Ryan was basically a shooter so when he
was missing shots he did not help the team at all.

Dreher was clearly mishandled.

I predicted KJ Roberts would transfer after Kidd committed, he is there 
for now, but I bet he bolts at the end of this year.




Russ Smith
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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: Picks and Screens, please???? Re: Biased Fans / Bad Refs
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:52:59 GMT

Sensei Cliff Slaughterbecksan writes:

>Welcome, Mr. Cheesehead, to Philosophy 101  Reality and Perception.  The 
>syllabus before you will explain the topics to be covered this quarter:
>
>(A) Why people see what they want to see.
>(B) Traveling.
>(C) The three second call.
>(D) The coaches box and technical fouls.
>(E) Over and back--oh wait he wasn't over yet.  Yes he was!  No he wasn't...
>(F) Shooting free throws (Guest Lecturer--The Shaq)
>(G) Coaching fundamentals (Guest Lecturer--Lou Henson)
 (H) Pick.
 (I) Screens, legal and illegal.

>Hopefully, in this class, you will learn some of the following things from
 ^----ILLEGAL USE OF THE ADVERB, OFFENSE, 5 YARD PENALTY, NO LOSS OF DOWN.
>each of these topics--(A)  With a preconcieved bias, most fans think that
>all of the calls which are "close" should go their way; (B) It is illegal
>to change pivot feet, even if they do let all the pros do it all of the
>time; (C) Three second calls take five real seconds; (D)  Technical fouls
>are somewhat random, depending on the quality of dinner that the referee
>had that evening; (E)  The over and back call cannot be called until the
>ball AND the player controlling the ball are both COMPLETELY in front
>court.  OK, so you won't learn anything from sections (F) and (G), but they
>will be included in the final exam.

Items (H) and (I) pretty please?  What is a good pick?  What is an illegal
screen?  Serious replies only...

>You will be required to submit a written 20 page paper for the class, on a
>subject approved by the instructor.  Be forewarned, however, that all 
>papers in the past which have recieved a passing grade have either been
>entitled "Blocking/Charging--A Comparitive Study of the Rules and How They
>Are Misjudged by a Fan in the 32nd Row", or "Fouling With The Body Even 
>Though It Was Clean Up Top--How To Misjudge a Call from the 32nd Row".

Count me in.  What about the e-Certificate of Fan Expertise, suitable for,
um, mounting?

				-- Marek

P.s.  It has been brought to my attention that at least one person thinks,
mistakenly, that I am a rabid Indiana Hoosiers fan.  This is not true.
I have taken my shots, though regrettably, with smaller conversion
percentage than last year.  But I have yet to bite a wolverine or a badger,
not to mention a boilerweenie, so... I think I'm okay.  Thank you for your
concern, whoever you are.  Go IU, but not too fast; you're only a ninesome.
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Women's top 25
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:02:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <ddavidson.72.726866004@cbacc.cba.uga.edu> ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Dennis Davidson) writes:
>Would someone please post Women's top 25.  Thank you  in advance.

Ask and ye shall receive (but don't ask for $1 million).  :-)

From the latest AP Poll...

Team			Record	Points
1.  Vanderbilt (68)	13-0	1748
2.  Tennessee (2)	11-1	1671
3.  Maryland		9-1	1593
4.  Stanford		11-2	1536
5.  Penn State		9-0	1423
6.  Colorado		14-0	1383
7.  Iowa		9-1	1367
8.  Virginia		10-2	1211
9.  Auburn		11-0	1186
10. Ohio State		9-1	1082
11. S. F. Austin	9-2	 945
12. Purdue		9-2	 873
13. Louisiana Tech	8-3	 838
14. Texas Tech		9-2	 789
15. Southern Cal	8-2	 786
16. DePaul		6-2	 641
17. Clemson		7-2	 531
18. Texas		7-4	 422
19. Western Kentucky	5-3	 400
20. Vermont		10-0	 320
21. North Carolina	9-2	 308
22. San Diego State	9-1	 234
23. Georgia Tech	8-2	 202
24. Kentucky 		11-2	 191
25. Oklahoma State	14-2 	 171


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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: #1 Kentucky hits the road
Date: 11 Jan 1993 07:18:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


UK took over #1 on at least 1 poll (USA Today/CNN).  Kentucky and Virginia
are the only unbeaten teams left.  UK faces 3 straight road games in the
SEC: Vandy, Alabama, and South Carolina, then they entertain LSU at home.  I
guess we'll know what the Cats are made of shortly!

Mike
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: The Quality of this Group
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:05:05 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Stephen A. Creps writes:
>
>   Since I've started getting more time to post to this group again,
>have people noticed that the quality of r.s.b.c  has improved quite
>significantly?
>
I've noticed that too. And if the volume of e-mail which I've been
getting --  all asking "whence this sheen?" is any indication, I'd say 
that not since the "Paul is dead" rumour has there been such a fast moving
demi-cultural phenomenon. Thanks for clearing up the mystery.

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From: baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Iowa-Indiana thoughts
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:54:45 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Some of my thoughts on Wednesday's Iowa - Indiana ball game

1) The Iowa offense stunk.  I have never been a big fan of Tom Davis's motion
offense and I am starting to hate it more.  Indiana played tough defense and
pushed the offense 30 feet away from the basket.  I think Davis's theory is
that pushing the ball around the outside will eventually tire and break down
the defense.  However, if Iowa has no threat to score (from 30') then this does
not work.

2) Noone on the Iowa team has an idea on how to feed the post.  Indiana was
playing on Acie Earl's back all night, but noone could get him the ball.  Once
again this is due to pressure on the ball and too much space between the
players.  Earl did not have a good shooting game last night but then again
nobody on the Iowa team was looking to take the shot in the sputtering offense
and he knew he had to put it up.

3) Iowa has always had the problem of defending outside shooters.  I do not
know why.  With the Big Ten's leading shot blocker underneath in Earl, why does
the whole team have to collapse when the ball goes down low?  I say let Earl
and Chris Street deal with inside and keep the eye on the shooters.

4)  It was very quiet at Assembly Hall even when the Hoosiers were on a run.  I
assume that it was because of the semester break for the students, but...

5)  Indiana's top 5 players are extremely talented but the bench sucks.  Who is
this Evans kid and why did he continue to clang up all those three pointers?? 
I have never seen Knight let a freshman take so many odd shots that were *not*
in the flow of the offense.  

6)  Overall, a decent game for the Hawkeyes.  They difinitely were in the game
in the whole way and if Indiana would have shot Free throws like they did
against UK and KU, Iowa would have won.  Iowa needs to work on the offense and
learn to always be attacking.  They need to cut **way** down on the turnovers. 
Finally, Someone beside VAl Barnes needs to shoot from the outside.  Kenyon
Murray could be that fellow but he needs to be encouraged more.


Next up:  at Ohio State (Saturday)

BB
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