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From: pem@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Peter E. Middleton)
Subject: Wreck for sale
Organization: Work at Home
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:44:20 GMT

Hi Folks
	Well due to 30k's and the "brownian motion" of a young boy on a bike
I now have a wreck and components for sale.
 
Frame:
    Full Cr-Mo Tange 900 with Cr-Mo forks. It has a
bent top and down tube.  Quoted cost to repair and repaint is 
about $200 (Clarence St Cycles) or less if you find your own
frame builder.
 
Wheels:
	Front 27 x 1.25 Weinmann Modular (Belgium) quick-release
	Rear 27 x 1.25 Mavic MA-40 Modular (France) quick-release
 
Brakes and levers:
	Dia-Compe (N500?) side-pull
 
Gearing:
	Shimano Index System - light-action Uniglide
	(there is probably a number but I don't know where to look)
	14-16-18-21-24-28 / 42-52
 
All in excellent condition.
 
Any offers for, or information on the value of the wreck 
or its components would be most welcome.
 
Why didn't I fix the bike?	What better excuse to upgrade!
 
regards
 
Peter
 
 
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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: geoffo@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Geoff Oakley)
Subject: Re: 30 K ???? 
Organization: none
	<1992Aug31.114038.6000@bohra.cpg.oz.au>
	<9224516.3926@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
	<1992Sep2.021003.21686@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> <mylene.715483502@swanee>
	<1992Sep5.020740.24673@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:18:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.020740.24673@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au> logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie) writes:

   Also I have my doubts about the safety of carrying a child in a seat on the
   back of a bike.  If you have a bingle, what happerns to the child ??.  (Even
   at 10k, I have come off hard enough at that sort of speed to hurt myself
   due to holes in concrete etc)


A child in a helmet strapped into a decent seat is much better
protected than you are.  A more serious concern is seats that allow
the child to get their foot into the spokes.  Fortunately, most seats
that I see for sale now make this impossible.

Life is for sharing, sharing the love of cycling with a child must be
a good thing (I have aunties that would not agree, however).

Geoff Oakley

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From: waohe@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (WA Office of Higher Education)
Newsgroups: aus.education
Subject: U/G Business Education
Date: 16 Sep 1992 09:50:34 +0800
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I'm up-dating a summary of current issues in the provision of 
undergraduate business education, and would appreciate a note
about any recent articles or publications that you may have
come across.

CD-ROM searches have turned up some material, but are instantly
dated, and don't catch it all.

Thanks :-)

Jeff Oliver
WA Office of Higher Education
waohe@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
From: dparsons@ache.mad.adelaide.edu.au (David Parsons)
Newsgroups: aus.education
Subject: Steiner schools: looking for a review of this approach
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:08:05 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Adelaide, South Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: ache.mad.adelaide.edu.au
Originator: dparsons@ache.mad.adelaide.edu.au

I am interested in finding out more about the Rudolf Steiner mehtod of
education.  The literature I have is heavy on belief but short on detail and
analysis of sucess/failures compared to the 'usual' approaches.
Can anyone reccomend a good review...  book or journal / paper(s) fine.
Please Email me if this is a boring / standard / FAQ type question
Thanks:  dparsons@ache.mad.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.education
From: gkm@cc.uow.edu.au (Glen K Moore)
Subject: Timbuktu computer network project and Carnarvon school on the air?
Summary: Seeking contacts for the Carnarvon Scool on the Air and the Timbultu pr
Keywords: Distance Education
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:00:44 GMT

Could anyone connected with these projects please either fax to me or e-mail to me?
Glen Moore
gkm@cc.uow.edu.au
fax: 61-42-213151
Science Centre
Wollongong
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:33:54 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:

>Well, they have backups.  Geordi mentioned in Contagion that he could bring
>the system back from the "protected store".  Whether or not Moriarty and the
>other guy have infested the copy they used from the protected store is another
>matter ... :-)

Yes, then the computer would:

a) go for everything in a skirt (or Troi) n the ship
b) try to manifest itself as a living being to defeat Data...

>>Yeah, I thought that too.. But then if it took say an hour as some systems
>>today take to do fsck's and so on (and remember the enterprise computer
>>has a multi-TERABYTE disk storage ...!), wouldn't you be in deep shit?

>Yep.  The writers could probably explain it away as advances in technology and
>the faster-than-light technology they use in the computer.  Still, it didn't
>even have the 5 second delay to wait for the power to drain away. :-)

I didn't see the wall saying "Log off NOW or risk your files being
damaged!!" messages, or even a warning of a shutdown and reboot!

Shoddy administration practices, and since when does
Geordi become the system administrator? :)

Does Picard really know the root password? ;-)

>Cheers,

>Rhys.
>--
>Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
>rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"

-richard

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Newsgroups: aus.sf,rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.science,rec.arts.sf-lovers,rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.written
From: rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>)
Subject: THE FUTURE
Summary: what would people like to see?
Keywords: future
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:32:40 GMT

I have a question to put to people.
please reply within the next 3 or 4 days.

What most feasible invention would you, as a person, like to see in the
near future, that would make life more interesting/easier/friendlier/etc..
Please e-mail me your opinions/ideas.
Rez.
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Anestis Kozakis
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"Off days" are a part of life, I guess, whether you're a cartoonist, a
neurosurgeon, or an air-traffic controller. -- Gary Larson.
From: colb@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Colin Burvill)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:51:24 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

> Definitely TNG has been much better lately now that we are deep into 2nd
> season.  Hopefully one of the stations will pick up the show from 3rd season
> onwards, but I'm not holding my breath. :-(

Is this a certainty? Has Ch9 stated that it definately will NOT be airing the
3,4,5th... series? 

It surprised me that Ch9 didn't give it a better chance. The station promo
they have seems tailor-made for the start of a ST-TNG episode.
Surely it gets high enough ratings to justify continuing with it as a niche
style program. As it isn't a huge audience puller in this country, 
9 could negotiate a cheaper price for the remaining series.

Lots of episodes are a bit corny and have a pro-USA
slant but they sure are nice to look at. 
Like Kerry, I'd sooner watch ST-tng than doug mulray's rudest home videos. 

Colin Burvill
colb@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au  
128.250.20.3
From: cej@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:46:46 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <3125@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, colb@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Colin Burvill) writes:
> It surprised me that Ch9 didn't give it a better chance. The station promo
> they have seems tailor-made for the start of a ST-TNG episode.
> Surely it gets high enough ratings to justify continuing with it as a niche
> style program. As it isn't a huge audience puller in this country,
> 9 could negotiate a cheaper price for the remaining series.

* Channel 9 are trying to promote an 11pm timeslot now that Robbo has gone.
  They seem to be putting good-but-low-rating shows on then each night during
  the week. I feel that they would do better if they had just a 5-10 mins
  newsbreak, and then the show going from 10:40- a lot more people would watch.
  Still, it's a lot better than an 11:30-12:30 slot, or taking the show off
  altogether.

* About the virus infected computer in a recet episode...Anybody, especially
  a computer expert would have tried a reboot much sooner than the crew did.
  Surely there should be at least one specialist science officer & some techs
  to look after the health of something  that if it breaks down will strand
  everyone completely?

* There seem to be a lack of specialists in other areas, too. You don't hear
  much about environmental officers, etc. You might say that officers trained
  in everything do the job, but they _don't_ (from the example episode)!

--
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CSS/CD/ERL                                    Phone: +61 8 259 6758
DSTO Salisbury, South Australia                 Fax: +61 8 259 6328

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are purely personal and do NOT represent
            the official view of DSTO.

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 That's life, get nicked.."   Derrin Hunch, Fast Forward
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: enc369l@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr BDJ. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:08:29 GMT

s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Pumpkin Power) writes:

>Does anyone know if Series 1 & 2 are available on tape anywhere (purchase,
>video hire, whatever)?  I've been watching the episodes from series 3
>onwards currently being shown, and wanted to see the earlier episodes but
>they don't seem to be available anywhere I've looked.

Have you tried the ABC Shop ?
From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:52:22 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au

In <andrew.716292962@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au> andrew@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Andrew Moore) writes:

>With the expception of the Royale, I would say the last three-four
>episodes aired in Oz were of quite high quality (wow, there is a
>statement with conviction and certainty :-) )

Definitely TNG has been much better lately now that we are deep into 2nd
season.  Hopefully one of the stations will pick up the show from 3rd season
onwards, but I'm not holding my breath. :-(

Does anyone agree with me that the Enterprise's computer was long overdue for
a reboot in "Contagion"?  What with the computer able to create someone like
Moriarity capable of controlling the ship from the holodeck (Elementary
Dear Data), and some guy's (name?) brain floating around in there too (The
Schizoid Man), if I was the captain of the Enterprise, I'd be having a serious
talk to the computer technicians ... :-)

On the subject of rebooting: call me cynical, but I can't see how you could
bring down a computer on a ship the size of the Enterprise and reboot it back
to full functionality in a few seconds, as was done in "Contagion". :-)

I'm looking forward to seeing Q Who in a few weeks time - Q is one cool
alien. :-)  Also, apparently we should meet the Borg for the first time in
that episode too.

Cheers,

Rhys.
--
Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"
From: colb@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Colin Burvill)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: ST:TNG - future episodes
Date: 13 Sep 92 06:16:15 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

By the way, if you want to depress yourself regarding the seemingly great 
ST-tng episodes that we may never see, 'get' a copy of the episode history 
at the following site...

ftp gandalf.rutgers.edu
Connected to gandalf.rutgers.edu.
220 gandalf.rutgers.edu FTP server
Name (gandalf.rutgers.edu:<userid>): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
Password:
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd pub/sfl
ftp> get <filename>
ftp> quit

Colin Burvill
colb@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au  
128.250.20.3
From: s900387@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Craig Macbride)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Conjunction 3
Keywords: con,sf,relax
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:23:09 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia

Conjunction 3 is a science fiction relaxacon being held this coming weekend
(late 18th Sep - 20th Sep) at the Sheraton Hotel, 13 Spring St., Melbourne.

It should be fun, with panels on bizarre topics and old favorites like
Theatre Sports. They promise a party every night, too.

Cost is $45 now or $55 at the door. Hotel rooms booked through the con
are only $99 per twin/double per night, including breakfast for two.

For further information, contact:
Conjunction 3
P.O. Box 203
Glenroy, 3046

or James Allen by email:
james%library%fit@gnu.vut.edu.au

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From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:41:31 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:

>In <andrew.716292962@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au> andrew@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Andrew Moore) writes:

>Definitely TNG has been much better lately now that we are deep into 2nd
>season.  Hopefully one of the stations will pick up the show from 3rd season
>onwards, but I'm not holding my breath. :-(

We can but hope!!!

>Does anyone agree with me that the Enterprise's computer was long overdue for
>a reboot in "Contagion"?  What with the computer able to create someone like
>Moriarity capable of controlling the ship from the holodeck (Elementary
>Dear Data), and some guy's (name?) brain floating around in there too (The
>Schizoid Man), if I was the captain of the Enterprise, I'd be having a serious
>talk to the computer technicians ... :-)

;-) What about backups is what I want to know ;-)

I wonder what the uptime would be :)

(and the load)

do they still run sendmail? *gag*



>On the subject of rebooting: call me cynical, but I can't see how you could
>bring down a computer on a ship the size of the Enterprise and reboot it back
>to full functionality in a few seconds, as was done in "Contagion". :-)

Yeah, I thought that too.. But then if it took say an hour as some systems
today take to do fsck's and so on (and remember the enterprise computer
has a multi-TERABYTE disk storage ...!), wouldn't you be in deep shit?

It reminds me of the origional series episode "Naked Time" where
Scotty *had* to have 30 minutes to bring the warp drive back on
line (after a dufus turned them off), but of course Kirk and Spock
did it in 8 ;-)


>I'm looking forward to seeing Q Who in a few weeks time - Q is one cool
>alien. :-)  Also, apparently we should meet the Borg for the first time in
>that episode too.

We sure do.. it is a wonderful episode, and even Whoopi gets a chance
to say something useful :)


>Cheers,

>Rhys.
>--
>Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
>rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"

-richard

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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Martin Caden)
Subject: Re: Micronauts
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:30:33 GMT

Gil.Poznanski@f388.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Gil Poznanski) writes:

>        Just wondering if anyone ever read the marvel si-fi comic 
>book , the Micronauts.
>        It's the story of micronauts that travel into our macroverse 
>, and thir adventures here .

mmm, I don't recall seeing a comic book version but there was a Sci-fi series
of novels called The Micronauts.  I can't remember much about it except that
they were not from a smaller universe but had somehow been shrunken in an
experiment of some kind (to make more efficent humans?).  There was a great
battle with a cat and some guy who squatted too close.  Ahhh, memories of
many days reading pulp Sci-fi are flooding back.

    O
   /|\ Martin Caden                       School of Mathematical Sciences
   /^\ martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au        University of Technology, Sydney
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Australian isolation & delay
From: chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (The Technicolour Throw-up)
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:27:13 +1200
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science,University of Canterbury,New Zealand

From article <18s4ncINNasv@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, by ibacon@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Ian Bacon):
> This post is in two parts. The first is a bitch about delays in
> receiving books and films in Australia. In Perth channel 9 is screening
> Star Trek TNG spasmodically, out of sequence and they are still showing
> 1st and 2 nd series. On other newsgroups I read about TNG episodes that
> will not be shown in oz for years, if ever.

We're doing slightly better here in NZ - but only just.  TVNZ started showing
TNG a couple of years ago but pulled it half way through the first season due
to ratings.  They started showing it again recently and we just saw "Peak
Performance" (second to last episode of season 2) last week.  This week, and
next,  its something called "The best and worst of red faces" - apparently a
compilation culled from "Hey, hey it's saturday".  No indication was given as
to whether TNG has finished here or whether they're just suspending it for a
few weeks to show this thing in its place.

Anybody know how long this best and worst thing lasts?

--
Just my two rubber ningis worth.
Name: Michael Chisnall  (chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz)
I'm not a .signature virus and nor do I play one on tv.
From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:33:38 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Sep13.164131.21963@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA]) writes:

>rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:

>>Does anyone agree with me that the Enterprise's computer was long overdue for
>>a reboot in "Contagion"?  What with the computer able to create someone like
>>Moriarity capable of controlling the ship from the holodeck (Elementary
>>Dear Data), and some guy's (name?) brain floating around in there too (The
>>Schizoid Man), if I was the captain of the Enterprise, I'd be having a serious
>>talk to the computer technicians ... :-)

>;-) What about backups is what I want to know ;-)

Well, they have backups.  Geordi mentioned in Contagion that he could bring
the system back from the "protected store".  Whether or not Moriarty and the
other guy have infested the copy they used from the protected store is another
matter ... :-)

>Yeah, I thought that too.. But then if it took say an hour as some systems
>today take to do fsck's and so on (and remember the enterprise computer
>has a multi-TERABYTE disk storage ...!), wouldn't you be in deep shit?

Yep.  The writers could probably explain it away as advances in technology and
the faster-than-light technology they use in the computer.  Still, it didn't
even have the 5 second delay to wait for the power to drain away. :-)

Cheers,

Rhys.
--
Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Pumpkin Power)
Subject: Red Dwarf
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:31:49 EST

Does anyone know if Series 1 & 2 are available on tape anywhere (purchase,
video hire, whatever)?  I've been watching the episodes from series 3
onwards currently being shown, and wanted to see the earlier episodes but
they don't seem to be available anywhere I've looked.

Peter Barton : s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
-- 
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: andrew@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Andrew Moore)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 10:16:02 GMT

hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH) writes:

>Well, what has every/anyone thought of the recent episodes? "The Royale" had 
>a pretty pathetic and predictable excuse for a plot, and last week's, a time 
>travel one which I've forgotten the name of, was okay at best. I did think, 
>however, that whatever they were using by way of special effects (or just 
>plain good acting) which made the future Picard look so ill and awful and "
>out of phase" was pretty good. 

(I have to agree, the Royale was cute, but no award winner...) 

I was totally amazed by the "vortex" effect in the time travel episode
(last weeks) okay maybe I amaze easy...but the first scene where you see
the enterprise sitting above the vortex looks brilliant.

With the expception of the Royale, I would say the last three-four
episodes aired in Oz were of quite high quality (wow, there is a
statement with conviction and certainty :-) )

Andrew.
-- 
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Ph:  +61 3 573 2063   |  Caulfield Campus, Monash Uni, VIC 3145, Australia
Fax: +61 3 573 2345   |       E-Mail:  andrew.moore@monash.edu.au 
 Be interested in the future, you will be spending the rest of your life there.
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - recent episodes (SPOILERS?)_
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:45:53 GMT

In <1992Sep15.125809.8021@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> s924683@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au ( Chandi ) writes:
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>::            <<CHANDI>>  Chandana H. Perera      [[DUAL DEGREE]]        ::
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>::                   s924683@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU                        ::
>::"IF GOD WANTED US TO MAIL AND CHATT ALL THE TIME WE WOULD HAVE ETHERNET::
>::         CONNECTIONS "						 ::  
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

But he already has *grin*
Seriously though..I'll be in the discussion group too.
(although I tend to listen more than talk... :-)
Rez.
-- 
Anestis Kozakis
rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au               ent670w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au
"Off days" are a part of life, I guess, whether you're a cartoonist, a
neurosurgeon, or an air-traffic controller. -- Gary Larson.