HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dblackbu@carr11.alleg.edu (David Blackburn)
Subject: Re: Finding field with index
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:14:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.060028.18430@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au> murdoch,  
WA, Australia (kywong@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au(Khoon Yoong Wong)) writes:
> I have a problem and need help. My stack has an index card with a locked  
field
> that contains the names of all the cards. The user clicks on a name and  
it
> takes the user to the card requested. My script says:
> 
> on mouseUp
>   select the clickLine
>   find the value of the clickLine in bg field "cardName"
> end mouseUp
> 
> The problem is this: I have two cards called Hypertext on Scrolling  
Field and
>  Scrolling Field separated by many cards in between. 
> when I click on the second one, it always take me to the first one.
> This happens with all the cards that share a common part.
> What can I do to solve this?
> Many thanks.
Try (if it doesn't mess up everything you've cleverly done)

(handler to extract title from clickLine)
unmark all cards
mark cards by finding LookForMe in bg fld "CardTitle"
if the number of marked cards > 1 then
   get the scroll of cd fld ScrollingField
   if it is greater than (-- the value where the first one comes)
      go to second marked card
   else
      go to first marked card
  end if
else
   go first marked card
end if

Of course, if you are using card marking for other purposes...

The other solution is to give the cards names "Hypertext 1"
and "Hypertext 2". But then you probably already thought of that. :-)

Dave Blackburn, dblackbu@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: chesley@apple.com (Harry Chesley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: CommToolBox XCMDs/XFCNs
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:24:14 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <tron-220892164906@kip-2.apple.com> Tantek Celik,
tron@apple.com writes:
>I have seen the HyperSerial toolkit and the HyperMacTCP toolkit, but
>does anyone know if there is HyperCommToolBox toolkit with XCMDs/XFCNs
>which can open/close connections, send/receive files etc.?

There is the HyperCard Comm Toolbox Toolkit. It never got past beta
level, however, and probably never will. They seem to have removed it
from the set of Toolkits on the Developer CD, but you can find it on
older Developer CDs.

On the one hand, it's beta quality, and it particularly never did file
transfers well (where "well" means it doesn't put up nice status
indicators, not that it crashes). On the other hand, there's full source
code with it, so you can fix it if you think it's broken.
From: korfhage@weston.poly.edu (Willard Korfhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Compound documents - hypertext usable from many programs?
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:18:55 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York

We want to build a hypertext encyclopedia, and are trying to figure out the best way of doing this. What we really want is some kind of compound document, that allows for pictures, sound, movies, and hypertext links to other parts of the document. We need to be able to show equations in the text, too (the encyclopedia concerns scientific subjects, so equations need to be handled nicely). A decent word processor is part way there - we can put in picutres, but don't have hypertext. Framemaker is closer - tha












t can do hypertext. Hypercard doesn't handle equations,  is a more general tool than we really need, and is pretty awkward when it comes to hypertext. Would something like Guide be better suited for our purposes?

Some additional constraints: 

Other programs must be able to cause encyclopedia entries to be displayed. This could be done either by having an apple event cause the encyclopedia to put up a window, or by the encyclopedia returning the composite document and letting the application display it.

We have to be able to control the look of whatever displays the encyclopedia. This is part of a larger project, and we are trying to give everything a reasonably unified interface.

We need to be able to get at encyclopedia entries by direct reference (e.g. section 1.2.4), via graphical navigation, and via searches (ideally context searches with boolean expressions).

Ideally the software free or cheap. This is going to be in schools, and we want to keep costs down. However, if there is something that is just what we need, then we would use it.

If we were going to make this from scratch (and we will, if necessary), then I would set up the encyclopedia as a kind of database server that has no interface itself, but just provides information on request to other programs. The visual interface could be a separate program, or could be coded into HyperCard or whatever program you are writing. The encyclopedia contents would be entered into files via a program that looks like a word processor, but with a couple extra features to allow for hypertext links










Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio)
Subject: Is these some XCMD/XFND for HyperCard to play QuickTime movies
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:17:18 GMT

Is there some xcmd to play qt movies from HC?

Please answer directly to me      kallio@jyu.fi

Seppo Kallio
University of Jyvaskyla
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From: ccy@po.CWRU.Edu (Cheung C. Yue)
Subject: Hypercard-compatible software on DOS machine?
Reply-To: ccy@po.CWRU.Edu (Cheung C. Yue)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 12:34:34 GMT


I am new to the Mac, and I am impressed with what Hypercard can
do.  However, my home machine is a DOS machine, and I would really
like to introduce my son to programming by starting him on Hypercard.
I vaguely recall seeing a Computer Chronicles episode on Hypercard-
compatible software for DOS (perhaps Windows), but I don't remember
the name of the software or who wrote it.  Can you folks help?

ccy@po.cwru.edu
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From: jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: How magic is the CompileIt?
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:18:06 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


In article <1992Aug22.004656.7727@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
jjahnke@biosci.arizona.edu (Jerome Jahnke) writes:
>> In article <15AUG199209103159@oregon.uoregon.edu> ccyang@oregon.uoregon.edu
>>(Chun-Ching Yang) writes:
>>  I thought HC 2.0 compiled scripts on its first execution of them and
>> stashed them in RAM, so why would compileIt be faster?  At least, why
>> would it be 50 times faster?
>
>Well now compile is a marketing term, to be honest HyperCard 2.x does not 
>compile anything. What it does do is tokenize scripts. This greatly reduces
>the amount of time required to parse out the command lines by the interperter.
>
>CompileIt actually generates 680x0 microcode.

HyperTalk 2.0 also actually generates 68000 microcode.  The original posting
is correct.  HyperCard 2.0 compiles scrips down to 68000 microcode on first
execution and stores them in a cache in memory.

So when we say "compile" we mean compile.  We don't let those marketing
people redefine our jargon -- we make them make up their own.  :-)

Kevin Calhoun
Keeper of the HyperFlame (ouch!)
jkc@apple.com
From: tron@apple.com (Tantek Celik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: CommToolBox XCMDs/XFCNs
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:50:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard comp.sys.mac.programmer
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

I have seen the HyperSerial toolkit and the HyperMacTCP toolkit, but
does anyone know if there is HyperCommToolBox toolkit with XCMDs/XFCNs
which can open/close connections, send/receive files etc.?

I already looked in the July Developer CD.

Thanks,

-Tantek

tron@apple.com

THE OPINIONS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE THOSE OF MY OWN, NOT OF MY USER OR
SYSTEM.

END OF LINE.
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: RE: XCMDs in C. Pointers to sample code, please
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:28:06 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

I have several XCMDs that compile and work just fine in C.  Feel free to call
the BBS any time!


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From: yydan@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Dan Bell (RMS))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Hypercard Database
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:46:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims01.31AUG199212465698
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone out there know of a Database Package that Hypercard can write 
directly into. I can write text to a file from Hypercard then import it 
into many different applications but what I am looking for is a Package 
that will allow me to put field text from Hypercard directly into fields of 
a Database. The database must have:

		- read/write access from Hypercard
		- record locking
		- print all records from a given search criteria
		- view all records from a given search criteria
		- multiple user read/write access
		- Five criteria sort level 
	
Please reply to: 

YYDAN@LIMS01.LERC.NASA.GOV

Thanks in Advanc,e

Dan Bell
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Apple share Xcmd
Date: 4 Sep 1992 18:13:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu




I am looking for an xcmd that will allow a hyper card script to provide 
a front end for connecting to apple share file servers.

Can anyone point me towards something that would work?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Where is the info on command  Show groups ?
From: kmorriso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kent E Morrison)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:32:15 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Keywords: show groups, hide groups, active text

There are commands used in the Help Reference stack called
  show groups
  hide groups

but I cannot find anything about them in the book of Winkler and Kamins 
Hypertalk 2.0: The Book. They are used for active text.

I also cannot find anything about active text in the book.

Does anyone know where I can get the information about these?



______________________________________________________________________________
Kent Morrison                           kmorriso@nike.calpoly.edu
Math Dept                               office: (805) 756-2464
Cal Poly                                dept:   (805) 756-2206
San Luis Obispo, CA 93407               fax:    (805) 756-1670
______________________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: steven@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Stergakis)
Subject: GUI for hypercard??!!
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:04:19 GMT

i know that this may sound pretty obnoxious but...

does anywaone know of any front end tools that can be used 
with hc 2.1.. to be used to simulate the drawing of boxes
and lines (a basically want something that will allow me 
to match entities from oracle with boxes on the screen and 
links / relationships between the nodes)...

any ideas... are such products on the market...

thanks in advance
steven
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: thingles@xerxes.cs.umn.edu (Jamie Thingelstad)
Subject: AppleEvent sending
Followup-To: thingles@xerxes.cs.umn.edu
Keywords: hypercard appleevent
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:34:45 GMT


I am trying to do a little project that requires that I send AppleEvents
from HyperCard 2.1 to an application (NOT another stack). The 'New Features
Book' says this can be done but doesn't seem to say how.

I got the trapping of all events to HyperCard working, with the
on AppleEvent thing. But how can I send an event of arbitrary class and id.

Thanx in advance.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: by303@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jay L. Cross)
Subject: RE: Finding flds under the clickLoc
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 21:36:06 GMT


Thanks to those who responded to my question.  As it turns out,
I did a poor job explaining the nature of my problem.  The sol-
ution was more complex than I expected, but I have finally
worked it out.
Thanks again for the help.

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From: mike@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (Michael Kerner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Preventing Script Inspections
Date: 1 Sep 1992 14:11:24 GMT
Organization: WSOM CSG, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: pyrite.som.cwru.edu
X-Post-Machine: pyrite.som.cwru.edu

In article <1992Aug31.155323.15800@cs.hw.ac.uk> aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.212845.2557@kth.se> bengtb@stacken.kth.se (Bengt Baverman) writes:
>>
>>
>>So, there is NO WAY to fully protect a stack from being inspected. Period.
>
>  Well...when a proper compiler ( at last ) will be available,
>  the inspection problem will automatically be solved as well,
>  won't it ?
>
>  Hans Aafloy


Whoa!  I disappear for a few weeks and look what happens!  I missed
the early parts of this conversation so here's my $.02.  1)  If your
use CompileIt from Heizer Software you can compile any handler and
somebody would need a sector editor to be able to examine the
plaintext parts of it (typically text & binally callbacks and their
parameters).  However, if you are going to assume that the stacks in
question cannot be removed from the machines on which they are placed
then I have a solution as well - it has to do with the only HyperCard
anti-trojan-horse software available - HyperGuard - yes, I've renamed
it to remove any confusion.  Anyhow, I can attach externals to
HyperCard which inhibit any user from being able to examine scripts,
period.  Those who tested HyperGuard will be able to vouch for the
fact that I can inhibit just about any HyperCard command regardless of
how you try to bypass the message heirarchy.  In WSOM, for example, we
have made it so that even the most clever people are not able to go
home with a copy of our HyperCard network front-end or, for that
matter, break out of it.  So the answer is - yes.  If you want to do
it, you can stop anybody from looking at scripts - the question is how
absolutely stopped you want them.

Mikey.
Mac Admin "Emeritus"-WSOM CSG - CWRU / 	Engineer-NewMedia Corp. Cleveland, OH
   Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I shall fear
          no evil, for I am the meanest S.O.B. in the valley.











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Mac Admin "Emeritus"-WSOM CSG - CWRU / 	Engineer-NewMedia Corp. Cleveland, OH
   Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I shall fear
          no evil, for I am the meanest S.O.B. in the valley.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: Piccard Note Collector/Pleasant Technologies?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:00:45 GMT

Going through some PD disks acquired within the past year I found a HC stack 
entitled "Piccard Note Collector Lite" by Pleasant Technologies.  Nice little 
note stack, but it apparently has a big brother out there somewhere (called 
"Piccard Note Collector").  Anyone see/hear of this thing?  I'd like to get it,
but the address for Pleasant technologies is by now two years old, and I 
hesitate to just send a check off into the nether regions without being sure of
whether or not this place still exists...

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: How magic is the CompileIt?
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:08:10 GMT

Please be sure to tell us how well it worked for you.  I contacted the company 
who makes it, and they said 5-20 times faster, depending on what you compile.  
I think it was $150?


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From: ramorgan@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: script hardcopies
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:57:56 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug26.104338.20673@cs.hw.ac.uk>, aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy) writes:
> 
> Is there an  e a s y  way to get listings of some of my sctipts ?
> (  command-P only seem to print the card...)
> 
Could type do ps into the message box, this will print all scripts with a
header saying which object it is from. It's also a good way to find "lost"
hidden objects too...

Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Networking and Hypercard?
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:17:17 EDT
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
Distribution: usa
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <67468@hydra.gatech.EDU> (comp.sys.mac.hypercard), gt4650c@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Anderson) writes:
> 
> I'm wondering what kind of support Hypercard or SuperCard have for 
> communication across Appletalk?  Are there some good XCMD's out there
> to do that?
> 
> The reason I'm asking is that I am thinking about developing a pretty
> big program for use as an instructional tool and I would like to be 
> able to have six students running programs simultaneously and exchanging
> information.
> 
> Along the same line, how hard is it to have a CD-ROM program save 
> status information to the hard drive?
> 
> I hope these questions aren't too obvious, my only Hypercard programming
> was in the pre 2.0 days.  
> 
> Tim Anderson
> 
> 

There are a suite of extensions available from GAVA corporation which
will give you the networking communication that you don't get with
HC 2.1. Most people's needs can be served by using the send and tell
commands native to HC 2.1, but for those who need true multi-user capabilities,
GAVA has the answer.

You can contact GAVA at 206-223-4282 or email: GAVA@applelink.apple.com.

Good Luck!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: perm@csd.uu.se (Per Mildner)
Subject: Re: SuperCard Warning message suppression
Organization: Computing Science Dept.,Uppsala University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:05:00 GMT

Sorry if this appears twice.
Locking the project in the finder can have a dramatic effect on speed
and would also probably help with your problem. I seem to remember
that cantModify has no effect in SC (don't have my SC manuals handy).
Note that several things crashes or do nothing when the project is
locked (e.g. setting window names, hacking menus). Some of the
problems with a locked project can be overcome by not closing windows
where you want some info to stay but instead hide them. What goes for
project above is equally true with standalone versions.

Per Mildner			perm@CSD.UU.SE
Computing Science Dept.		tel: +46 18181049
Uppsala University, Sweden	fax: +46 18521270

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: ee770644@ee70.ncu.edu.tw (ee770644)
Subject: Re: SuperCard 1.6 needs much improvements
Organization: Computer Center Of NCU in R.O.C.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:01:20 GMT

ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi) writes:
> I got SuperCard 1.6 expecting to see a HyperCard 2.1
> compatible product, but I was GREATLY disappointed by
> the apparent lack of effort put into it.  SuperCard 1.5
> had too many holes, and SuperCard 1.6 failed to patch them.
> 
> Is SueprCard 1.7 on the way?  I hope I will find it
> a little more acceptable this time.
> 
> Kenji T.
>

I don't agree.  Since Aldus SuperCard 1.6 support apple event, I think
that it is getting powerful.  And can you give me some examples to the
HOLES of SuperCard 1.6?

thanks.
ccl
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: printscripts...
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:52:45 GMT


In article <1992Aug26.044041.12376@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, steven@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Stergakis) writes:
|> ive just been reading danny goodmans book on hypercard
|> 
|> has anyone out there have a printscripts handler.. it 
|> should be located in the home stack script, but i havent got one..
|> 
|> can someone send me the script if they know about its refered
|> to pn page 865 (app D) in Goodmans book...
|> 
|> thanks in advance...
|> steven.

I don't know of that *particular* script, but here's one I use....(this is
NOT verbatim, but from memory, so it may take some tinkering on your part)

on PrintEmAll
  ask "Print scripts for what stack?" with the long name of me
  push card
  if it is not empty then
      put the long name of me into printStack
  else
      exit PrintEmAll
  end if
  set lockScreen to true
  set lockmessages to true
  go stack printStack
  put the long name of me & return & return and the script of me into temp
	--to print the stack script
  repeat with count = 1 to the number of backgrounds in stack printStack
      go bg count
      put return & return & the long name of bg count & return & the script of <L>
        bg count after temp
      repeat with x = 1 to the number of bg flds
	put retrun & return & the long name of bg fld x & return & the script <L>
	 of bg fld x after temp
      end repeat
      repeat with x = 1 to the number of bg btns
	put return & return & the long name of bg btn x & return & the script <L>
	 of bg btn x after temp
      end repeat
  end repeat
  repeat with count = 1 to the number of cards in stack printStack
     go cd count
     put return & return & the long name of cd count & return & the script of <L>
	card count after temp
     repeat with x = 1 to the number of cd flds
        put return & return & the long name of cd fld x & return <L>
	 & the script of cd  fld x after temp
     end repeat
     repeat with x = 1 to the number of cd btns
	put return & return & the long name of cd btn x & return & the script <L>
	  of cd btn x after temp
     end repeat
  end repeat
  print temp
  pop card
end printEmAll

**the <L> is the option-return character**

It's not *lightning* fast, but it also gives you a complete inventory
of all btns, flds, etc. in your stack (in case you hid one and forgot
about it).

Your mileage may vary, use this script at your own risk, I'm not
responsible for your results, you get what you pay for <blah>, <blah>
<blah>.
-- 

David G. Simmons
davids@lanl.gov

If I said it, LANL didn't... 

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