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From: smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee)
Subject: Re: What's the deal?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:35:12 GMT
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In article <aldavi01.718863880@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis) writes:
>In <1992Oct9.210952.15538@javelin.sim.es.com> KHATCH@130.187.170.178 (kh) righteously complains:
>>     What's the deal with these paperback novels that have Lovecraft's name on 
>> them but on closer inspection are written by August Derleth?

>I dunno, but I was bitten by this, too.  Apparently, August Derleth was a big
>HPL fan, and deliberately copied his style.  What came of it are some truly
>dreary stories -- I couldn't finish them, they were so bad.  Derleth copied
>his style, but none of his intelligence, and hinting at greater things.
>Very pedantic.  Made me very *mad*.

It did?  Wow.  When I read the anthology "Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos",
Derleth's stories were my favorites.  I even kind of liked them more than
Lovecraft's (oh, heresy!).  The story (can't remember the title) about
Nyarlathotep in the northern Wisconsin wilderness had me on the edge of my
seat, as did the one about Ithaqua ("Beyond the Threshold"?).  The only real
bad one in that anthology was (IMHO) "Cement Surroundings".

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From: bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (Bob Cannard @ PCB x5565)
Subject: Ia!
Originator: bcannard@hppcb36
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 19:53:39 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


I have the following items up for sale:

   Heavy leather bound tome (I think it's leather, anyway).
   Very old. Selling because I can't read Arabic, the pictures
   give me a headache, and my Arabic-speaking friends refuse
   to have anything to do with it.

   Metal cylinder, approx. 1' high, with 3 electrical sockets
   on surface. Found while backpacking in the Rockies.
   Alternatively, perhaps someone could tell me what this
   thing is _for_.

   Fossil, apparently of pre-Cambrian age, clearly showing
   a triangular, striated marking, possibly a fern. Nice
   paperweight.

   Coffin-like grandfather clock with unusual 4-handed face. Very
   rare, perhaps unique, antique. Selling because the ticking is
   too loud.

All offers considered, please reply soon because the white ship's
waiting to go.
-- 
bob_cannard@mentorg.com            The fun guy from Yuggoth
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From: cthulhu@netcom.com (Jeff Baker)
Subject: Ah, my newsgroup has been created!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:30:16 GMT

Thank you to whoever is responsible...

Jeff Baker
cthulhu@netcom.com
From: jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: HPL reader's guide
Date: 12 Oct 1992 19:42:16 GMT
Organization: UCB Space Sciences Lab
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For those who are interested, there is a book entitled "Readers's
Guide to the Cthulhu Mythos" published by Silver Scarab.  The
edition I have (2nd) was published in 1973 and has everything ever
published by chronological order, alhabetized by title, alphabatized
by author, series listings, sections for non-fiction, parodies,
and poetry, as well as address of publishers up to 1973.  The only
drawback is that it is 20 yrs. old and hard to find.  I got a copy
from one of the UCs, I think UCR.  I list the info below for anyone
who wants to find it.

		Reader's Guide to the Cthulhu Mythos
		Compiled by R.E. Weinberg and E.P. Berglund
		Silver Scarab Press, Albuquerque NM
		Sec. Ed. 1973 88 pgs. no ill.

		Silver Scarab Press
		500 Wellesley Drive Southeast
		Alburqueque, NM 87106
		(as of 1973)


____________________________________________________________________
"common human laws and interests     "I wouldn't exactly call it a
 and emotions have no validity        a happy dogma, but it makes me
 or signifigance in the vast          feel better about not 
 cosmos-at-large..."                  getting laid..."
		-HP Lovecraft                 -R. Carter
____________________________________________________________________

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From: garcia@husc10.harvard.edu (Javier Garcia-Torres)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Anyone remember...
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:18:06 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


	I sure don't.
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
From: jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen)
Subject: Re: OMNI NECRONOMICON
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:18:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.013215.12340@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.154413.23195@julian.uwo.ca> jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen) writes:
>>I just saw a video adaptation of Lovecraft's story 
>>From Beyond, apparently made by the same folks that 
>[review of FB deleted]
>>
>>-------
>>
>>On the subject of the Necronomicon: a while back
>>(about 8 yrs ago) Omni magazine was offering a book 
>>for approx. $100.00 It was leather bound and contained 
...
>>I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard of this
>>particular Necronomicon, and knows anything more about
>>it.
>
>Its the same one. Published by the same people (SIMON)

Hmmm... The Avon Necronomicon didn't have any instructions
for making "money magnets", "scrying", etc (like described 
in the ad)... In fact, I don't recall it having many 
practical formulas at all (Although I suppose that the ad 
could have *phony* customer statements / or that it could 
be for a modified book containing a typical compilation of 
techniques)

just curious (although I don't believe in 
THE NECRONOMICON),

Jeff...
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Guy who wanted CoC char made
Summary: Yer computer kicked me out, eh?
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:43:38 GMT
Distribution: alt.horror.cthulhu
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

I'll do you a character if you can get email through
to me.  I tried to write but it bounced.

On another subject, during the Mystery Science Theatre
3000 "Gamera versus Zigra" episode, one of the robots
describes a model of a monster he made, eventually
breaking down into incoherent hostile shouting.

I had to run it back a couple of times, but he shouts
"Yog-Sothoth" twice and "The Unnamable" once.  HPL hits
MST3K!!

	Jason
	Southern Arizona Gizmonic Institute
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From: KHATCH@130.187.170.178 (kh)
Subject: Re: Anyone remember...
Organization: Terra Incognita
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:06:53 GMT
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In <1992Oct9.195815.993@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tpordon@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:

> 
> Does anyone remember H.P. Lovecraft's story about Houdini trapped in
> a Pharoah's tomb?  I know it wasn't Nyarlathotep, but rather "Imprisoned"
> or something like that.
> 

    I believe it is called "Imprisoned With The Pharohs" and was originally 
published (in Weird Tales?) under Houdini's name. It was ghost-written by 
Lovecraft.

    By the way, thanks to whoever started this conference. It's about time.
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From: busc@ellis.uchicago.edu (john richard buscher)
Subject: coc pbem
Reply-To: busc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:29:55 GMT

 cool beans, i too would be interested in such a pbem...

Nicodemus Style, Ravnos at large
From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:10:24 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

pan2765@seas.gwu.edu (Crazyman Pan) writes:

>It's pronounced "Koo-TOO-loo".  There's a whole write-up about him (it) in
>the beginning of the Avalon Books edition of the NECRONOMICON.  It says ...

Whatever it says, it's completely in the imagination of Simon, the author.
There's no connection between Cthulhu and Babylonian mythology in any of HPL's
stories, other than the general notion that the Great Old Ones were the
inspirations for most of mythology.

-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: What's the deal?
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:12:17 GMT


In article <1992Oct10.051233.8362@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
thornley@milli.cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley) writes:

[regarding the Derleth pastiches]

|>They may be pretty good as horror fiction, but they aren't Lovecraft.
|>Lovecraft's cosmic critters weren't evil in any absolute sense, but any
|>contact between humans and them was generally disastrous for the humans.
|>The horror was intended to be that of finding the universe so alien and
|>generally unfriendly, and humanity so insignificant.  

True.

|>Derleth's cosmic critters, on the other hand, were lined up into two
|>bunches, the good guys and the bad guys, both heavily concerned with
|>humans.  The horror was in finding such vicious and powerful enemies.
|>Unfortunately, Derleth's stuff got more press, so you see nonsense about
|>Lovecraft intending "Elder Gods" as good guys.

True, for the most part.  However, there were some "good guys vs. bad guys"
aspects to some of Lovecraft's stories.  Nodens vs. Nylarathotep (sp?) in
"The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath", for example.

--PSW
From: jgoodric@dante.nmsu.edu (GOODRICH)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Bibliography
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:20:52 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM


	Actually, it depends on what you mean by 
"The King in Yellow"  the book of short stories was
written (Pub Dover books) but the play was never
written in its entirety.  Someone gives a good
chunk of the text in their story (see the
bibliography, I don't remember who), and
that Most Excellent writer for The Unspekable
Oath and Chaosium John Tynes has said 
that he was planning on writing at least a few
scenes from it.  Look for it.     

	The Laughing Priest!
	
"I've seen things you wouldn't believe.
 Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
 I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark
 near the Tannhauser Gate.
 All those moments will be lost in time,
 like tears in the rain." - Roy
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: OMNI NECRONOMICON
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:32:15 GMT
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In article <1992Oct13.154413.23195@julian.uwo.ca> jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen) writes:
>I just saw a video adaptation of Lovecraft's story 
>From Beyond, apparently made by the same folks that 
[review of FB deleted]
>
>-------
>
>On the subject of the Necronomicon: a while back
>(about 8 yrs ago) Omni magazine was offering a book 
>for approx. $100.00 It was leather bound and contained 
>real gold leaf lettering on its cover. The cover 
>contained three symbols similiar to the one found on 
>the Avon Necronomicon Paperback. The ad also contained
>statements from people who tried various formulae 
>contained on various pages in the book, attesting to 
>the success of the techniques contained therein.
>
>I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard of this
>particular Necronomicon, and knows anything more about
>it.

Its the same one. Published by the same people (SIMON)
on a more depressing note, several film students on a nearby campus are 
making a tv miniseries/pilot episode called necronomicon.

The premise is a combination of ghostbusters and beverly hills 90120 that
takes place at Miskatonic University at Arkham. This should bring the
cthulhu mythos to an alltime low (I've read script exerpts; its as bad as
it sounds)

Luckily it borrows most from the el-Fako avon necronomicon, rather than HPL's
mythos, presumably due to copyright laws 8)

yrs under the elder sign...
-Scott


Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Wanted: A Tome (it be not what you think)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In my tender youth, long before my encounter with the Great Shadowed Beast, I
met a certain Priest of Cthulhu. This man did read to us a Bedtime Story from
an ancient Tome, beginning with Chapter 666 the adventures of Snow White and
the Seven Deep Ones. Long have I searched for this book, due to the curious
impact it has had upon my life, and fearing lest it fall into careless hands
that would abuse its sacred worth, yet I have been unable to locate it, not
knowing even its name.

Be there some disciple here, a brethren able to give me information on this
wondrous and terrible Book?

--Semhaza (The Antichrist)
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From: DLODG00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Corwin, Prince of Amber)
Subject: Re: ohter authors recognize HPL
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:34:25 GMT

In article <Bw6GC0.EJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
fishhook@sage.cc.purdue.edu (steven freeman) writes:
 
> in one of the many Samuri Cat books(the authors name escapes me at the moment)
>, Tomokato fights otherworldly and eldritch beings known as The Great K'tchu
>and his brother B'lysu.
>
 
I read these books last summer, and I recommend them highly.  If you're in
the mood for something totally silly - something which erases the thin
line between life and absurdity - pick them up.
 
From the Plateau of Leng,
 Corwin
 
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From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: NECRONOMICON (was Re: FROM BEYOND)
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:01:48 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen) writes:

> On the subject of the Necronomicon: a while back (about 8 yrs ago) Omni
> magazine was offering a book for approx. $100.00 .... The cover contained 
> three symbols similiar to the one found on the Avon Necronomicon Paperback. 
> ... I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard of this particular
> Necronomicon, and knows anything more about it.

What's to know?  It's a hoax, like any other copy of the Nec.  If it had
symbols similar to the Avon version, it was probably a hardcover edition of
that (or else it was a rip-off, and Avon's lawyers came down hard on the
thieves).

> The ad also contained statements from people who tried various formulae 
> contained on various pages in the book, attesting to the success of the 
> techniques contained therein.

"Made me a new... man!" -- Ephraim Waite
"I became so popular I was followed whereever I went." -- A. Alhazred

-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:38:32 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

sbeitzel@netcom.com (Stephen Beitzel) writes:

> In article <DRW.92Oct10163501@euclid.mit.edu> drw@euclid.mit.edu (Dale R. Wor
> >Does anyone have a definitive list of the Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
> >slogans?  Like:
> >
> >	Cthulhu -- when you're tired of choosing the lesser of two
> >	evils.
> >
> >	Cthulhu saves -- in case he's hungry later.
> 
> 	Cthulhu *loves* mankind . . . BROILED!

Cthulhu saves . . . for dessert.


                                        - Sahsa
                                        - Sasha

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From: KHATCH@130.187.170.178 (kh)
Subject: Re: The New Twilight zone
Organization: Terra Incognita
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:28:28 GMT
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In <1992Oct12.230550.24317@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com writes:

> 
> Did anyone else ever get a chance to see the episode with the mythos in it, about
> the grandmother, who was a spawn?

Yes. It was written by Stephen King!
From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:31:28 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <yzpp5aj@lynx.unm.edu>, rkelly@pioneer.unm.edu (Bob Kelly) writes:
 > In article <DRW.92Oct10163501@euclid.mit.edu> drw@euclid.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley) writes:
 > >Does anyone have a definitive list of the Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
 > >slogans?  Like:
 > >
 > >	Cthulhu -- when you're tired of choosing the lesser of two
 > >	evils.
 > >
 > >	Cthulhu saves -- in case he's hungry later.
 > >
 > >Dale
 > 
 > 	CTHULHU saves our souls... and redeems them for valuable
 > 	cash coupons later.
 > 
 > 	Who loathes you and who do you love?
 > 		CTHULHU!
 > 
 > 	CTHULHU Express -- when it absolutely has to get there... or else.
 > 
 > 	Join the CTHULHU corps... it's not just a job, it's higher
 > 		position under the elder god.
 > 
 > 	My CTHULHU has a first name...
 > 		You're not supposed to say it out loud....
 > 			Ooops!
 > 
 > 	And the best I have seen:
 > 	A picture of Cthulhu rising over the Crucifixion (JC's eyes 
 > 	bugging out) scene, saying:
 > 		"I just love hors d'euvres!"
 > 
 > 

Election slogans:

The stars are right!
A thousand points of fright!

Why settle for the *lesser* evil?
CTHULHU '92.

No more years!

Leif Kj|nn|y
leifmk@lise.unit.no
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From: jbuhler@owlnet.rice.edu (Jeremy Daniel Buhler)
Subject: Pickman's modem
Keywords: IAsfm Lovecraft Cthulhu modem Pickman
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:56:41 GMT


Your reference to Pickman's Model puts me in mind of a similar
story in an old Isaac Asimov magazine.  Was about a net-crawler
who gets this strange new modem that takes his cheesy,
ungrammatical msgs and converts them to works of art.  Apparently
it was especially good at flaming.  The modem was from
Arkham Enterprises; its line noise looked something like

Ia@#*&^FhtaGn#$*&@#Ia*)&CThLhU!@

The user's name, was, of course, Pickman :-).


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From: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nyarlathotep)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: misc...
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:01:40 GMT
Reply-To: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nyarlathotep)
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi,
 i have some questions:

   - what's the name of the witch in the story with the
     human-faced rat named Brown Jenkin?
   - what's the name of the "spirit" in that same story,
     they were suppose to make a deal with him, lord of
     chaos or something...
   - what's the order of appearance of the great race, the great
     ancients, the beings with the star shaped head in antartica,
     the gigantic cone spaped time-travelling beings, etc on
     earth according to Lovecraft/Derleth?
   - i heard about some Cthulhu (pronounces Ktulu?) game, does
     it exist?
   - did you know that H.P. Lovecraft was definitly racist (i read
     it in two biographies about him....)?
--
=======================================================
 "J'ai le vertige quand je vois de petits enfants, non
  pas parcequ'ils me donnent de fortes emotions, mais
  bien parceque je suis tres grande."
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
From: Dexter
Subject: HPL bibliography anyone?
Keywords: HPL 
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:19:25 GMT


title says it all...
i have an OMNIBUS (vol.1,2&3)
but then what?

as they are lousy paperbacks any info on a good publ. house edition
preferably hardcover would be appreciated.


...that is not dead...




                                                             Dexter

Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
From: donnell@shamu.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Lovecraft and Iron Maiden
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:31:03 GMT

Iron Maiden also makes occasional references to HPL. Can't think of
the specific lyric right now, but there is a tombstone with the
"famous couplet" on the cover of "Live After Death".

					--Judex--
From: andrew@cs.chalmers.se (Andrew Moran)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: H.P. Lovecraft -- 60s band
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:29:15 GMT
Followup-To: alt.horror.cthulhu
Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden

Anyone out heard of the sixties band called "H.P. Lovecraft"?  They have
lots of songs based on the mythos.  I know of two albums, called "Sailing on
the White Ship" and "H.P. Lovecraft II" containing songs like "Sailing on
the White Ship", "The Keeper of the Keys", and "The Mountains of Madness".
Great stuff; really creepy.

Andy
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Bibliography
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:21:26 GMT

jtgst1+@pitt.edu (Judyth T Gibson) writes:
>Someone is trying to convince me that 'The King in Yelow' was never written;
>that it is just a book refered to in other Cthulhu-type tales.  book is 
>by Chambers.  Would be happy to learn that someone, besides myself, has
>read it.

The book/story "The King in Yellow" was certainly written.  However
the title of that was taken from the play "The King in Yellow"
featured in the story, which is totally fictional, and is what is
usually refered to.

-- 
Your reasoning is silly and irrational but it is beginning to make sense.
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