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From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Re: New Supra Chipset:Caller ID:Condoms
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:53:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.143240.17188@tronsbox.xei.com> dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan) writes:
>In article <Bx7rqx.M9z@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
>|I didn't say I didn't trust the sysop.  I merely stated that caller ID
>|is an invasion of privicy.  As a matter of fact, the private bbs isn't
>|what I'm concerned about (mostly).  It's the online services -- Genie, Portal, 
>|Compuserve etc.  So some other company needs the names of Amiga owners
>|for a phone ad campaign.  Well, x-service has caller ID, let's ask them!
>
>	What, are you stupid or something?

First, lay off the personal attacks.  I didn't call you stupid, you don't 
call me stupid, understand?

>	Commercial services ASK for your phone number when you sign up,
>remember?  GEnie and QuantumLink both called me to tell me my account was
>active!  IE, they already KNOW your phone number and don't need Caller ID to
>find it.

Read the fine print.  That's OPTIONAL information.  Magazines compile lists.
Mail order companies compile lists.  Online services compile lists.  Then
they SELL these lists to those "professional" marketers.

>the many professional targetted-marketing agencies.  They have your phone
>number, too...whether or not you gave it to them.

Which is the thing I'm trying to avoid.  I really think that compiling
information on someone is an invasion of privacy.  Although that has 
nothing to do with CID directly, it can be an end result.

Again, the last thing I want is a flame war.  A discussion of the merits
and faults of caller ID (almost) belongs in c.s.a.datacom.  A flamewar
belongs in c.s.a.advocacy.

>Dennis F. Heffernan  dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com e4461005@apollo.montclair.edu
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>you learned; if it's not happenning to me it's not important?" -Murphy Brown
>

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: Leon@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Leon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Supra V.32bis faxmodems for $149.90 !!!
Distribution: world
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:36:18 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

In a message dated Tue 10 Nov 92 12:09, Jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov ()
wrote:

>  Supra V.32bis modem over the net to Bert Lindgren of Georgia. Thanx for
>  your continous support and trust. As some of you already might know that
>  Supra has announced a couple of new modems. 
>

 J> Hmmm...wasn't somebody just recently complaining of the blatant
 J> commercial
 J> use of this newsgroup for *free* advertising ?

I'm not sure which is worse.  HIS post our YOURS, in which you quoted EVERY
line of his message...

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From: pl159410@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Alejandro Garza Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: PARNET problem
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:36:47 GMT

dolittle@halmuc.muc.sub.org (Ludwig Hurt) writes:
>I've got PARNET installed between my A3000 and A4000. Everything works

>some docs that are on my A3000 on the A4000 using the printer driver.
>Of course I can COPY dh0:mydoc TO NET:PRT but I want to use both
>printers (lists on a laser printer are waste).

>Ludwig

Well, I just got a proggie called EZSpool from the aminet 130.60.80.80
site, which just prints whatever file is in a certain directory you
specify. This way, using CMD and your preferences printer driver set
to the SER: device, you could CMD the printer ouput of whichever program
you want onto that dir, and the spooler would print it. You would set
the remote machine CMD dir to something like NET:data/spool etc.. and the
local machine's CMD dir to data:spool. If you wanted to switch and to
use the remote printer instead of the local one, you could have two 
different CMD commands, each with different tooltypes (with different
output directories) which you could use to select to which printer
your output would go... I hope I'm making sense! :)

Just get the file from amiga.physik, etc... 130.60.80.80. It explains this
in detail :)

Bye...
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From: gregp@gpsoft.adsp.sub.org (Dr Greg Perry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GPFax launching Getty
Date: 11 Nov 92 06:43:51 GMT
Organization: GP Software, Australia
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <kkrebs.03zj@amilink.UUCP> kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs) writes:
> 
> 
> Can someone help me out here?  I want to run GPFax all the time so I can
> have it launch a Getty when I a get a Data call.  Here is my Getty
> parameters:
> 
> Run >Nil: <Nil: Getty -7 -A -Mm -B57600 -b1 -d0 ATZ0
> 
> 
> Can someone help me set up a DataCall.GPF ARexx script for use with GPFax?
> 

Ken (and other GPFax users.)

We are planning to release a new version of GPFax 2.045 with some changes
to rexx commands.  V2.045 fully supports Getty and we are checking it with
the new TrapDoor.  Arexx scripts will be provided in the patch release
hopefully next week.

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From: bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdmin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Supra 14.4k & zmodem ul problems
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:13:04 GMT
Organization: Raven Enterprises -- Piscataway, NJ USA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Nov6.162734.6189@agt.uucp> blundy1@agt.ab.ca (Blaine Lundy) writes:
> Whenever I try to upload a file on my supra using zmodem, a get all kinds
> of errors. RTS/CTS handshaking is enabled, and I have the amiga talking
> to the modem at 31k. It seems to be even worse when I attempt this at
> 9.6k. Is there a problem with my configuration or could it just be that I
> am not giving a high enough priority to serial functions? Could someone
> please explain the problem and suggest a fix?
>
> Thanks,
> Blaine Lundy
> internet: blundy1@agt.ab.ca

Huh?  31k??  Typical port speeds are 9600 19.2k 38.4k and 57k.  Besides
having RTS/CTS enabled in your comm software, you have to ensure that
your serial cable has those lines wired.

Maybe you should tell us what term software you are using and what
Zmodem protocol you are using. (xpr, internal, etc.)

--
 Bob Lindabury

InterNet: bobl@bobsbox.rent.com                | Raven Enterprises
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: griffita@fraser.sfu.ca (David Stuart Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Xenolink is still alive?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:29:32 GMT

AKURCZYN@itesmvf1.rzs.itesm.mx (Alejandro J. Kurczyn S.) writes:

>I have sent mail to the author of the Xenolink BBS software, and I haven't
>received any response. My question is: Does the software is still in
>production? I'm ready to buy it but I want to know if my money is going
>to be lost! :-)
> 
>Is the proce still $165 dlls?

I belive that Jonathan Forbes is still around somewhere.... However if
you invest in Dialog you will be making a much wiser, and probably
more long-term investment...

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From: leibrock@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Gerhard Leibrock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Parnet, AMIGA, PC
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:02:14 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, U of Saarland, FRG

Hello,
I just did buy an SM-DOS computer which I need for my
work at the University (Sadly AMIGA doesnt support 5.25
hd drives).
I use two AMIGAs connected via Parnet. Ths works great and make
life lots easier. But now I wonder, if there is a parnet client
available for the PC, so I could transfer data more easily
that using the disks.
Hope, that someone can help.

Yours, Gerhard



Gerhard Leibrock, Neuhaeuselerstr. 12, D-W6654 Kirkel 2, Germany
Voice: (+49) 6849/6134, E-Mail: leibrock@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de
E-Mail longer than 30kB: gele@stud.rz.uni-sb.de
From: kellyd@mastro.UUCP (Kelly Donner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: UUCP on BBS
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.968
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:29:44 EST
Organization: Excelsior! .971 Beta Site

Lets not forget EXCELSIOR!   Excelsior makes UUCP Hook up very easy, no getty 
is need and the BBS handles UUCP accounts with ease. A Very fast and easy way 
to run UUCP (USENET), Excelsior " in my opinon " is the best and easyest for 
the $....


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| MASS Storage BBS  465 megs     | Data Lines: 313-326-7691 - 313-326-8288  |
| Excelsior! BBS System          | Offical Beta Test Site                   |
| UUCP: sycom!mastro!kellyd      | INTERNET: kellyd@mastro.UUCP             |
|                 Life in the fast lane is slow today!                      |
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From: Gene_Ruebsamen@republik.fidonet.org (Gene Ruebsamen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Term 2.4 and A3000
Distribution: world
Date: 3 Nov 92 22:55:09 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

I am currently using Term2.4 on my 3000 and it works fine. I am using the
'030 version... One problem I have been experiencing is with the buffer,
for some reason It captures text just in one column (eg:
T
h
i
s

i
s

a

t
e
s
t
.
)
As you can see this is quite annoing and hard to read, and can be a strain
on the processor when the buffer gets full and the beggining portions of
the buffer get flushed and the latter portions are rewritten to.  What is
wrong?
Thanks in Advance
Gene

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From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  HELP!!!
Distribution: world
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:06:18 EST
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

>>>The question is how can I maximize the transfer rate? I always get 1600+
>>>cps with LHA or DMS files. Can anyone send me a modem setup string?
>>

>However, the cps can goes up to 1800+ for my IBM PC with ZIP files. Is
>this the limitation of Amiga? Or Jr-Comm?

You've just answered your question.  .ZIP is usually a terrible
compression format, and your modem is further able to compress your file
giving you the 1800cps (which is impossible if you aren't using
compression).

1650 is the normal transfer rate (depending on speed of the systems,
drives etc..) of Data that is uncompressable (Ie LHA, or .DMS in its DEEP
mode)

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Fidonet#1:163/165.0 - (613)521-0648 - VBBS Amiga Intuitionized BBS
UUCP: Jam@Jammys.OCUnix.On.Ca - Amiga 3000T/25/5 - 383Megs
From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: New Supra Chipset:Caller ID:Condoms
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: mark@legend.akron.oh.us
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Organization: The Legend BBS Public Access (216)825-2747

In article <1d9pqvINN1mo@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
>
> In article <Bx7rqx.M9z@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
> >You don't think that calling that person back is good enough to verify?
> >Also, suppose you have a dial-in line for a business computer that also
> >allows that business computer to dial out.  You call somewhere and your
> >number gets out, not a necessarily terrible thing, but it has  bad
> >potential.

Double quote here.  Make note.  The way I see it, if it's one of those stupid
"Hi.  I'm John X Xavier.  I'm so damn busy I can't call you myself so
I'm having my computer Herbie do it for me..." then if he doesn't want
me to have his number, he shouldn't have called.  And if I feel like
filling up his VOX activated tape with my latest CD, I will.

The moral: WATCH WHERE YOU DIAL!
--
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Internet: mark@legend.akron.oh.us   UUCP: Yes, why?
"I know someday you'll have a beautiful life/You'll be the sun in somebody
else's sky..." - Pearl Jam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: Terry_Palfrey@mindlink.bc.ca (Terry Palfrey)
Subject: Re: Xenolink is still alive?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:47:31 GMT

Yes Xenolink is still alive and the 2.04 Z4 version is under beta test and
purports to be a major rewrite. I've had my copy going for a couple of months
now and things are quite nice. Six Xenolink Boards are up in Greater
Vancouver Area, all different and varied.

DLG may at the present time have some different features available but MY
choice was made on the look and feel of the package and the trust that there
is a thrust being made to bring the final parts that are missing from
Xenolink into being.

805-258-5507 is Xeno Alliance Fido 1:102/1309
401-751-3831 is Bloom Beacon BBS Fido 1:323/119
        6568 "   "      "    "    "    "    "
416-921-6638 is Xenomiga Fido 1:250/642
604-327-9494 is Castle Arghh Fido 1:153/727.0

That should get you started. I am happy with my purchase and it does the
trick for me which is to be totally configurable to my game plan.

           604-590-1147 tHe UnDerGrounD SubWaY 24hrs v32.bis


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: bjst@sth.frontec.se (Bjorn Stenberg)
Subject: Re: New Supra Chipset:Caller ID:Condoms
Organization: IDK/Frontec - System Design Group
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:34:04 GMT

kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
> I'm simply a person who wants to keep my
> phone number private.  Ya know, like the old days when people answered
> phones.

Do you always enter a fake number when the BBS prompts you for it?
If not, why don't have the BBS know your number automatically?

> I did not wish to start a flame war with this.

No one has. Hopefully no one will either.

> I just am advocating the use of an alternitive.  In the case of BBS's
> offer call back.  

In some (all?) cases this lays extra expenses on the BBS, which is not
desired. Running a BBS is expensive enough as it is.

However, this makes me even more confused. If you positively *will* give
out your phone number in order to have the BBS call you back, what's the
problem with having the modem do it for you?

> Does your right to privacy end when you knock on my door?

No, but my right to know who you are starts when you start using my hard-
earned computer equipment for your personal entertainment.
Don't you think that's quite fair?

> When you enter my house do I have a right to look through your wallet?
> Do I instantly have to know your address?  

If a stranger comes knocking on my door I sure as hell ask at least who
he is! Don't you?

> Yes, there are some cases when knowing these
> things could come in handy (when the JW's visit, axe murderers and the
> like) but those cases are rare.

So? Do you let people into your house without even knowing who they are,
if you're just sure they're not axe murderers?

>  Likewise, when someone calls you (or your board) most likely they are
> NOT out to destroy you.

The interest in the identity of the user is not only for protection. As
I said before, I'd to know who's occupying my computer!

> I think it's just one big power trip. "I have
> caller ID so I know *YOUR* number."

"You've told me your number so I know it."

If you didn't, I'd kick you out of my computer. So what's the difference?

> The "company" has always had to have instant
> access to your phone number, they need it for the switching,

Yup, the hard part is to distribute it to the phone that's supposed to
answer and to get the phone to understand it. That's what's new about it.

> I don't see the purpose of caller ID.  I'm sorry, I don't.  It doesn't 
> offer any real useful service (to me).

As a user, no. On the other hand, I'm pretty convinced you can ask your
local telco to switch it off for you.
I wouldn't let you into my computer without it, though...

		-- Bjorn

       ///  Bjorn Stenberg, Stockholm, Sweden         bjst@sth.frontec.se
      ///  main() { printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);}
 \\\ ///  "- Your documentation no longer confuses me, old version!"
From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: New Supra Chipset:Caller ID:Condoms
Date: 8 Nov 1992 19:50:16 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

To make some comments about the future of CallerID, and its use...

Well, listen.  I run Welmat, a great mailer.  Probably the most
expandable and forward-reaching systems out there, to say the least.
Anyways, adding Caller-ID support for welmat is a possibility.  The
ZyXEL modem supports it.  So someone calls, and their CID is recorded
as part of the call for that.  The user starts up your bbs, and the
bbs grabs the CID info.  The user is new.  The BBS can ask if the
person is calling for his/her residence, or ask if the CID info is
valid.  If not, then you must fall back to a callback-verification
system.

Personally, I want CID for several reasons.  1)  I like to know who
calls my system.  I don't run a BBS.  Just WelMat.  I'd like to record
the CID info with the session log.

I think CID offers a lot of potential.

Greg

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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: CNET Info
Date: 4 Nov 92 11:45:04 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

Geez... Take a chill pill folks.. 

A person makes a simple comment like "but what i've seen of Excelsior, it's a
near rip off of Cnet anyway" and you people go flying off the handle about
totally unrelated things.

I see the above statement (made by Bob Maple) as simply stating that Cnet and
Excelsior appear to look and act alike in many ways, but at least 2 people
used this as an opportunity to slam.

No matter how good Excelsior may be, i certainly don't like the attitude that
it's authors have *PUBLICLY* taken.  A mud slinging campaign that puts bush to
shame, posting of priveledged source code (of which Ron Kushner should watch
out, having had access to Cnet source can make him liable for copyright
infringement and look and feel suits, since copyright includes derived works
from existing source).

Joe Vasher, on the other hand, claims that the Visual Editor (which has been
in Cnet since 1.0) was stolen out of excelsior?  I don't understand that one..

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From: sl1zm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.unix.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Interworks Enlan-DFS software
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:36:34 MDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Utah State University

>Over the past few months a company called "Interworks" has been advertising
> a product called Enlan-DFS which is touted as an Ethernet-based peer-peer
> networking package for the Amiga.  This is exactly what I need and I need it
> by this weekend.  But they don't answer at either phone number listed - just
> a recording, inviting the caller to leave a message and they'll get back to
> you.  Well, months ago when I first saw this ad and was merely curious I
> tried a few times to contact them and got no reply then either.
> 
> If anyone has seen or used this product - how well does it work?  (2.0/3.0
> compatible?)  The primary need is to share a hard drive; which I guess
> Parnet would do but ideally we'd like to be able to do it a bit quicker.  Is
> there a quicker/surer way to contact Interworks, or some way to buy their
> software through a distributor?  

The software is easy to install, it works great, it works great on 2.x and
3.x, it works on the 4000, etc.

It *didn't* come with an install utility.
The manual is *ok* but could be better.

We have two networks in our store running on it.

It allows you to export hard disks, floppies, CD-ROMs (we have one for all
the machines on the net) and you can import any exported device as any
name you want.

Things you still need to do...
Put your import for specific devices on IconX script files.
Make one to import a device(s) and one to deport it.
This lets you extend paths (forked paths) to other drives to allow using
libs and fonts from the other system.  That way you don't need to have the libs
and fonts on all the machines.
It's a good idea to have a central machine with a large HD to hold extra libs
commands, etc... for use by all machines.  This makes life much easier.

I haven't had any trouble with the software except when someone reboots a
machine I've imported.  This will lock up the software.  I can't remember
if the software automaticly reconnects once the drive is re-exported
or not.  I'll have to check it out.  We just make it a point to make sure
nobody is accessing our machine when we reboot.

I can tell you it's really annoying to have software that doesn't let
you print to a user specifiable device!  Lot of good it does to have
a network with a laser printer and dot matrix printer exported for our
use when your word processor can't access it!  ARRRRRRGGHHH!!!!


If you need a peer-to-peer network, Enlan-DFS works great.
Now if they will just support all those cheap Arcnet cards we picked up
used from WordPerfect...

James