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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tongues, Jasmine, and Football (was Re: To
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> > Aw, shucks, what can I say?.....  (except thanks....)
> > --ggs (whose net was down from Friday night to Tuesday morn...)
>
> You can tell us a little about Juan Pablo Forner and about the novels
> of Galdos's relationship with Concha-Ruth Morell.  And you can tell us
> about Tsuchiya's skill in navigating some fairly obscure semiotic theory
> with admirable clarity in discussing Galdos.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Ohhhhh Myyyyyyy Goooddddddddd!  This is *so* embarrassing.  I thought
nobody every read that stuff!  This is like something from another
life.  I must be dreaming.
--ggs (who no longer likes the sound of "with admirable clarity"....)
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Review
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Elaine brought Grant over for tea this morning.
Anne-next-door and Elva-Frank's-advisor's-wife
and my-daughter-Marya were also present.

We all approve. He was properly appreciative of my
bread and the last of Ruth's jams, among his many
other virtues.

Elaine, you may keep him :-)

love, judith
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:16:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: wordsler birthdays
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> giggles says:
>
>    Well we know for sure that:
>    .... neal's is September 25
>    .... -ggs' is September 13
>    .... Colonel Sanders' is September 9
>    .... -ggs' tc/sw's is June 3
>
> and here i thot giggles' was the 14th...oh well.
>
> //anne, <appalled>, i say, <appalled> that giggles left her off the list//

Every time I make a list, which I frequently do, I get IRTN.  This
list, incidentally, //anne// my dear, appeared *before* you announced
your birthday.  And who is this BUBBLEMEISTER?  Is that *moi*? I
think not, but anyway I forgive you for getting my birthday wrong.
You gave me one more day of life (or one less?  I get confused)
and I am most grateful.
--ggs
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:16:36 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>So far Tushar has not said no to the addition of the poem to ftp archives.
>But he hasn't said yes either.  Do we assume that the absence of no is
>yes?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

No.

I am sorry I shouted earlier, OK? Thank you very much, Natalie, but the
intent of the "poem" was different.

tushar
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
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     So long as the subject is being batted around, I am 29SEP57.

     Further, I did not develop that style of writing a date from 16
years of being a military brat, but rather from working in an office
which was so damn international that anything less specific would be
misinterpretted.  And I'll be switched if I am going to write out more
than 7 characters for a date between now and the year 2000.

The Ronin
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz
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	> 2) accidentally retieve the meaning of un- for people who do know the
	> difference but haven't been primed to consider it.
	             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	ROTFL!  This really is hilarious.

Have you forgotten how this discussion started?  I said most people
knew the difference between disinterested and uninterested, and
you disagreed so i suggested the pop quiz.  You've been arguing a
slightly different question, ie whether people would recognise the
word disinterested out of context.  Since we can't find any common
ground even for framing the problem, I suggest we forget about it
and accept torkel's suggestion.

(Oh, the other point of the original question was that I said that
over here we did preserve the distinction, and I suggested a spot
of straw-poll fieldwork in the hope that you were wrong when you
said that wasn't the case in the US.  Looks like you were right. You
_are_ all ignorant after all.)

G
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
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>ndh (who is delighted to have acquired Jill for a relative)

The feeling is definitely mutual!

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:11:30 HST
From:         Michael Macmillan <mmac@PEGASUS.COM>
Subject:      This is crazy
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Here I sit with the winds rising about my ears, and I'm worried about
I'm going to stay abreast of what's going on on Words-L as Hurricane
Iniki batters the islands.  Absolutely insane.  Do I qualify as a
bona fide addict yet?  My sympathies for our friends in Florida also
rise by the minute.  But I promise not to assault you with a lengthy
discourse on What Happened to Me on the Way to Iniki.  I just hope the
electricity doesn't stay out for days once it goes down, as it
inevitably will.

Michael E. Macmillan
--------------------
mmac@pegasus.com
CompuServe: 74206,577

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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Howdy from the green place
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> _____________________________________________________________________________
> Tenet: a warm fuzzy place where we are all friends.

Yes, indeedy. :-)
Doris
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From:         MIPS+Toys=Bandwidth <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Story to make ABH wanna marry me #2
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>Subj:	Story to make ABH wanna marry me #2

Rich, my darling,

Let's name the first child Rita.

-abh
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
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> > I'll make it a *very* textually sexy crontab file...
> >    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
> Not that I'm ignernt or anything, but what is a crontab file?
> Doris

	Couldn't wait for Akio to Glean it, eh?

	Me neither...  Whatever it is, I expect to receive one in a couple of
	weeks.

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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: family
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:36:11 GMT

Just an addendum to neal's post: <makhatunim> (with that nice
throat-clearing kh/ch sound) is the collective plural.  The father of my
child's spouse is my <makhutten>, the mother is my <makhatenistah>.  All
together, we're an extended <mishbokhah/mispokhah> (family/clan).  BTW,
some pedant once sent me an "official" transliteration scheme for
yiddish-to-english, but it made such hash out of perfectly reasonable words
that I never bother to use it.  That which neal has transliterated <kh> is
more often written <ch> or sometimes a dot is put under <h>.  
                                     
--bayla

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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      About Being A Gentleman
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I'm still cleaning my office from when I moved furniture a week or
so ago--we're moving the filing cabinets tommorrow.  Anyway.  From
my Naughty Puppy notebook, souvenir of Japan:
     Better than eating rice or snacks, I like to be impish!
     But I don't pick on the weak. I'm a gentleman.
Words to live by, yessir.  Should be quote of the day.  Anyway, by
that single criterion, I *am* a gentleman, just like Naughty Puppy.

Impishly yours,
Karen
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Ruth posts:

   In a previous article, aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU () says:

   >>What is sinsemilla?
   >>Is it nice? Can it grow in Canada?
   >>Agnes
   >
   >You're kidding, right?
   >
   <ROFL>

   She'd better be....even a pharmaceutical [in the broadest sense] abstainer
   like me knows what that is....  

   I used to know someone who grew it in her dorm room.  If it grew there, it
   would grow anywhere.
   -- 

Sorry, but mark down another person who doesn't know what it is...now would
be the time to be kind and tell us, I think.

Thankx,

//anne//
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58)
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              "Carol_Carmick@beav.intersolv.com" at Sep 8, 92 9:25 am

>      _One Hundred Years of Solitude_ is a great novel by Gabriel
>      Garcia Marquez, the South American writer whose country of origin
>      I unfortunately do not remember.  I commend it to your attention.

	Mexico.  Although I hear he hangs with Fidel Castro these
days.

	Yes, *excellent* novel.  My brain exploded upon completion.

Rita
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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> >Like if "majority" is "norm" then it is necessarily "norm" and if
> >it isn't then it isn't necessarily, huh?
> Yeah--but then there's the problem of becoming--which I think is
> what Natalie was really interested in.  But who am I to interpret
> for List Goddess?

Becoming??
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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> and misunderstanding the one or two overly earnest, highly boring people
> who do know something about linguistics.  I had also forgotten how tiresome

Correction.  In reading what I wrote above, I realized that it was
erroneous for me to call the *people* boring.  I have a feeling that
at least one of them is an interesting person off the list.  What I
found boring was the tedious harangues, part of what seems to be the
expected tone on a.u.e.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
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>> thats in a short piece we published here.  Are there no other
>> defenders of the distinction between these two?

>What distinction?   ;->
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Oh, Natalie.  You've become so predictable.
mem (macmillm@ewc)
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
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On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 Carol_Carmick@beav.intersolv.com wrote:

>      You must have a hell of a time with Chaucer, Natalie.
>

ROFL!!!!!

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:29:45 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      I'm back

Hi!
  Thank you to all of you who sent me messages today.  I am happy that
you are my friends.
  My depression got the better of me this morning. (I should know better
than to make decisions before the Prozac kicks in.)  But, as Gigi said
to Gaston, "I'd rather be miserable with you than without you." :)

Evelyn
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Zen
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> 	The reason for this myth is that Brendan is prohibited by
> his contract with the book publisher from making it available in
> ascii.

The copy I put in our ftp space isn't illegal, is it?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Posted on 7 Sep 1992 at 17:56:05 by tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
>>Well, this sounds exactly like what I said I do--touch touches in the
>>bottom 1/4 of the teeth.
>I thought you said it is difficult to aspirate that kind of sound. If your

You said the tongue touched at the *root* of the teeth--to me that is the
top; I would find it hard to aspirate there>>English th is categorized as interd
ental.  Can you do this?
>If you tell me what interdental means.

inter=between dental=teeth

>Sorry, I wasn't thinking. Interestingly, this particular sh is supposed to
>be a retroflex sh, though very few people pronounce it like that.

I certainly can't--not w/ an [a] following!

Karen
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>Does this count as a neologism coined by words-L (giggles, actually):
>      <tc> for SO/spouse/main squeeze ...??
>
>rashmi

"<tc>" is not a word.

tushar
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58
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Posted on 7 Sep 1992 at 05:44:42 by s mandell
>In Dutch all the really good curses have  to do with diseases.

Like Dutch elm disease.
Karen
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:32:47 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Plumbing Woes
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              08 Sep 92 06:28:46 -0500. <9209081130.AA15772@sics.se>

  >Speaking of toilets, does anybody have a suggestion of how to cover up
  >(paint?) a small knick in the porcelain of a toilet bowl?

  Liquid enamel.
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      PC3270 & misc

Hi, Don here, way behind the times.  Subdued Splash Mountain (interesting, but
wimpy water ride).  Saw ggs trying to figure out 3270 ...seem like he has a
very similar environment as I do -- execpt he has 486 and I make do with
ancient IBM PC ...takes that, plus a 386 machine for me to view GIFS).
Anyway, ggs, somebody may have already answered you, but I'll assume you have
loaded on your PC, PC3270 software which should contain the "receive" command.
Further assuming you are FTP'ing to a VM file (although TSO would also work),
then to download that VM file to your PC your would issue the following
command:

       receive A:your.fle yourvm file A1   (note no quotes or periods
                                            in VM file description)

Above command would be used for binary (GIF) file.  If text, add
as part of command the following:  (ascii crlf).

To gentleone:  back to front sounds normal to me ..do you also read
               most important section of paper, comics, first?

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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From:         RKESSLER@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Return of Rod
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I'm back from two weeks in Maine (drove a lot, ate lobster,
got rained on, smashed the Volvo into a guard rail, ate
more lobster, rode ferry, kept baby out of surf, ate lobster
with visiting relatives, endured fog, rode ferry, drove a lot).
I'm still sorting through paper mail--and my semester has started.

But our new au pair arrived tonight (she's from Andover in Hampshire,
England) and I'm looking forward to having some time to catch up
with Words-l.
  What did I miss?
   -Rod
Rkessler@rcn.mass.edu
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:02:43 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Bertie Wooster 2

Bertie's reacting to difficult situations with an "Eh, what?" is not
protective camouflage. It is a clear result of his inability to think.

Another thing about Bertie is, I think, that his gift of exposition is
almost totally unconscious. He does not seem to try for it. His occasional
"I searched for the telling phrase" is never a conceit. He really is only
searching for a suitable word or phrase.

Examples of conscious efforts at this (and very successful ones) are to
be found in the speech of Psmith or Uncle Fred, not the regular "chaps".

>  By the way, has anybody here read a rather curious and interesting
>book called "William, or More Loved than Loving"?

Is it by Wodehouse?

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:59:11 EDT
From:         rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tongues, Jasmine, and Football (was
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              at Sep 8, 92 9:30 pm

>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
> P.S.  Are you going to SAMLA?  With or without your t/c?

Does this count as a neologism coined by words-L (giggles, actually):
      <tc> for SO/spouse/main squeeze ...??

rashmi
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      re: family
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>I'm beginning to suspect that what Jill needs is not a <daddy> but
>a <sugar-daddy> and if you think for a minute that <tc> would

  Well, I <never>!!  I am <shocked>, I say <shocked> and
  horrified!  To think that the father I never had would
  say such a thing about the daughter he never had...if it
  weren't for the wonderful aunts I've acquired, I'd be
  looking for the parental-divorce papers that have never
  existed!  I'm too crushed to continue...

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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From:         "tk0jut1@niu.bitnet Jim Thomas"
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Subject:      Rita's a hurler??

Rita announces:

    >"I think I'm gonna hurl."

Hey, far out! I always suspected you were ok down-deep.
Bill S. actually hit Ireland during the hurling finals, and
maybe he can tell us how to do it properly. I've always enjoyed
hurlying, but never on a full stomach.

Jim (sluidering along with the breeze) Thomas
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
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  >But there IS only one multiplication, I say! So what other multiplication
  >do you get if you use the "ordinary" definition?

  It's the same multiplication. It's just that when you ask for solutions
of the equation x*y=1, the system will loop after giving the answer
"x=1,y=1", rather than report that there are no more solutions.
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Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz

Torkel:

>>   That's what our multiplication is.
>
>  Yes, but it took a lot of extremely involved mathematics, including an
>appeal to the commutativity of addition, to establish this. So I think
>you have strengthened the claim that
>
>            x*0=0
>            x*(y+1)=y*x+x
>
>is not a proper (fundamental) definition of multiplication. (I have
>heard it claimed that it's just as good as the ordinary definition.)

Of course it's not the proper definition. It's absolutely unnatural.


>However, it has a technical use in programming e.g. in Prolog, because
>if we take the so-called "completed definition" corresponding to the
>above ...
>
>then it follows from this definition together with the corresponding
>completed definition of addition that x*y=s(0) has only one
>solution. This does not hold if we use the ordinary definition.

But there IS only one multiplication, I say! So what other multiplication
do you get if you use the "ordinary" definition? From what has gone on
above, it has to be something non-commutative, but is it something regular
or is it totally bizarre?

tushar
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