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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: HOSTID fun
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:41:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.154841.26732@midway.uchicago.edu>
	eer1@midway.uchicago.edu (Paul Woods) writes:
>According to the man page on "hostid", the hostid can be changed.  so why when
>I try to change it, it tells me that it does not want to let me.  Is it truly
>possible to change it?  I thought that it was.

In article <1992Aug12.160802.27393@midway.uchicago.edu>
	eer1@midway.uchicago.edu (Paul Woods) writes:
>The above question was a stupid one.

No, it's a good question, but it's come up before (last November).

Here's a slightly edited version:

NeXT didn't remove sethostid() from the kernel--they merely
munged its dispatch vector in the version of sdmach they
distribute to customers.

Every UNIX system call is assigned a number;
sethostid() is #143 <syscall.h>

These numbers are used to index into the "sysent" array.
Each element is an 8-byte structure:  <sys/systm.h>

struct sysent
{
	short	sy_narg;		/* total number of arguments */
	short	sy_parallel;		/* can execute in parallel */
	int	(*sy_call)();		/* handler */
} sysent[];

This is what NeXT ships in 2.x:

sysent[143] = { 0, 1, errsys }
  errsys always fails with EINVAL

This is what it's supposed to be:

sysent[143] = { 1, 1, sethostid }
  this is the code that's supposed to be executed

This can be corrected by binary-patching 3 bytes in the kernel:

[This is for 2.1 ONLY!!!]
% cmp -l sdmach xxmach
579602   0   1
579607 240 217
579608 214 206
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
decimal  octal

Once you make this change, sethostid() will work the way it's
supposed to, and the hostid(1) command will work as documented.

|Note that the addresses differ in different kernel versions;
|e.g., for 2.2 it looks like this:
|
|% cmp -l sdmach xxmach
|593462   0   1
|593467 236 215
|593468 100  72

[Any of the 3.0 prerelease sites care to comment?]

					-=EPS=-
From: dean@n5170a.nrl.navy.mil (Dean Clamons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NFS and CDROM question
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:44:44 GMT

I would like to make the CDROM on my NeXT available for mounting by other  
(non-NeXT) systems on the network. I have exported the CDROM directory and  
made sure that nfsd and mountd are running. When I try to mount it from  
another system I get an error message: "mount: access denied for ---"  
where --- is my system and directory name. I have tried exporting and  
mounting other file systems from the NeXT, and it works fine.

A second question along the same lines is whether there is a way to get  
the CDROM to always mount under the same mount point (eg /cdrom) instead  
of under a mount point which is related to the name of the disk. The  
reason I would like to do this is so that the CDROM can always be mounted  
from another system by using the same name (assuming that I can mount it  
at all!).

Your comments would be welcomed.

--
Dean Clamons
Naval Research Lab
Code 5110
Washington, DC 20375
(202) 767-2384
dean@n5170a.nrl.navy.mil
From: eer1@midway.uchicago.edu (Paul Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re:  HOSTID fun
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:08:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Aug12.160802.27393
Reply-To: eer1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

The above question was a stupid one.  Please pretend like I never posted it !!

Thanks,


Paul-
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From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts)
Subject: Re: next disks and swapfiles
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:53:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.162747.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu>  
rutherford@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
> How does the next maintain swap files? There is no entry in fstab  
for it
> (or for my second hard drive, and internal 105 quantum).  There is  
an entry
> for my boot drive. I am assuming that the internal drive is mounted
> automatically by a non-standard method.  I have seen the swapfile  
in
> /private/vm, and have wondered if it is possible to either  
physically
> relocate it to the internal drive or to use a symbolic link  
instead.
> 
> I would also like to override whatever automounting is taking place
> and make sure that on boot up the internal (non-boot drive) is  
mounted
> automatically.

Put entries in /etc/fstab for both disks, this will cause them to be  
mounted automatically at boot time, otherwise the next  
autodiskmounter will mount them when you try to access things on
them.

Look at the man page for mach_swapon for info on allocation of the  
swapfile.
--
dan pritts                     computer systems consultant
university of michigan itd consulting and support services
dan.pritts@umich.edu   (nextmail accepted)    313/998-6265
From: da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Apfelbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: next not reading my DOS floppy
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:59:35 GMT
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Sounds like you are somehow ejecting the floppy without umount'ing it first...

The autodiskmount daemon should be doing this though -- at least if you
eject'ed the disk from the File Viewer...  (I've seen this using
"/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0a" to eject the disk before, which doesn't do a
umount first.)


See the man pages for mount(8), umount(8).   (Note section 8!!)


            -David.
             da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: pok@gabriel.ccs.yorku.ca (Pok Ng)
Subject: AFS on NeXT(problem with .NextTrash)
Organization: Computing & Communication Services, York University, Canada
Distribution: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:46:53 GMT

Hi,

	We are running AFS 3.2beta on a NeXT network with all the users'
accounts reside on AFS volumes.
	One of the major problems that we are facing right now is that
the NeXT can't create(or doesn't recognize) the recycler(.NextTrash
directory)! Whenever, the user try to remove a file (dragging it to
the recycler icon), a panel will pop up saying 

	"Folder XYZ is located on a disk without recycler.   
	Continuing will really destroy the files."

					Stop or Destory
	
	Anyone knows how to solve this problem?

Thanks in advance

/pok

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Was: What's a better block size for a Fuji 520M drive?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:38:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.183555.3981@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu  
(Paul S. Sears) writes:
> Actually, the NeXT also supports 2048 byte blocks/sectors as that is  
what the  
> CD-Rom has for a sector size...

I don't think it will support hard drives formatted to 2048 byte blocks.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
I believe George Bush, Anita Hill, and Pinocchio.
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From: kurrer@glasgow.ks.uiuc.edu (Christian Kurrer)
Subject: Re: aliases
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:06:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug9.215721.872@net23.uucp> coke%net23@spectrx.saigon.com  
(Brian Policky) writes:
> I am having some old aliases showing up. I looked in the net info and in  
> the /LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases and have not found it. I have  
also  
> looked at the users .mailalias file. The alias that shows up isn't in  
any  
> of those places, and when I put a different alias for the same word in  
the  
> /LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases file, it is still overridden with  
this  
> phantom alias. I need to know of all of the places where sendmail (or  
> whatever) looks for aliases. I am running a lone NeXTcube with 2.1 OS.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> coke%net23@spectrx.saigon.com  

I have fought a long war on aliases, but I seem to be on the winning side.  
Here is my recipe that I use (as root) to update the aliases:

mailserver# Edit /etc/sendmail/aliases
mailserver# newaliases
mailserver# cp /etc/sendmail/aliases /LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases
mailserver# niload -v -d aliases / < /etc/sendmail/aliases

I think that the mail system is pretty messy and certainly could need some  
streamlining (system 3.0, where are you?). A lot of confusion arises from  
the fact that three different needs have to be considered:
-Unix, which requires you to run newaliases so that they are recognized by  
sendmail
-Netinfo, which want you to put all the Unix info in the NI database
-and Mail, which seems to be too lazy to look for aliases anywhere else  
than in /LocalLibrary/Images/People.

Two comments: 1. The recipe works, which is more than I usually expect.
2. There might be some overkill involved; any comments on this are  
welcome, but nevertheless consider point 1.

Christian Kurrer
kurrer@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
NeXTMail discouraged. Flames, too.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: NeXT as Mac server?
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:36:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.003022.7356@csus.edu> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.041127.8872@cubetech.com>
>	andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
>>No, 3.0 only lets you become an AppleShare _client_ and not a
>>sever.  You'll need something like uShare to get the Macs talking
>>TCP/IP and NFS to let the NeXT be a server.
>
>I think you missed the point; improvements in 3.0 (relative to
>2.x) will make it significantly easier to adapt things like
>CAP and netatalk to run "native."

Yeah, but putting CAP in a LKS that would drive AppleTalk/Share over
the en interface (that worked well) would probably be a big job.


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com     | "We shall not cease from exploration
Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: NeXT as Mac server?
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:30:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.041127.8872@cubetech.com>
	andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
>No, 3.0 only lets you become an AppleShare _client_ and not a
>sever.  You'll need something like uShare to get the Macs talking
>TCP/IP and NFS to let the NeXT be a server.

I think you missed the point; improvements in 3.0 (relative to
2.x) will make it significantly easier to adapt things like
CAP and netatalk to run "native."

My only direct experience with uShare is with the Sun version.
Let's just say that I'm not impressed; it does pretty much the
bare minimum.  Even if uShare were free and didn't have obnoxious
copy protection, I'd prefer one of the others.

Fortunately for IPT, NeXT "forgot" to send me 3.0 prereleases, so
I haven't been personally responsible for decimating their market
share.  Someone else probably will.

					-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hinds@cmgm.Stanford (Alexander Scott Hinds)
Subject: rcmd, talk - not working
Keywords: rcmd, /etc/services
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:20:03 GMT

Hi-

I'm having trouble getting rcp to work.  That is, I can rcp from another  
machine to my NeXT, but not visa versa.  I assume that I need to add an  
entry to my /etc/services, but I'm not sure exactly how to do that.

On a related note, I can seem to get "talk" working either, even when  
talking to somebody on my local machine.  

I'd appreciate any help, and thank you in advance.

--X
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: 092306@hyperion.lanl.gov (Jerry Weber D417  7-7410)
Subject: Mail Woes II
Keywords: mail
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:45:56 GMT

Mail on my NeXT responds with :

		Fatal Error

	Invalid Mail Directory: /usr/spool/mail/user


I have checked all the permissions that I can think of and even tried logging
into a diffrent machine with the same result. Can anyone shed some light on 
what might be the cause?
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:12:20 -0400 
From: David Apfelbaum <da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: zalloc panic's -- any ideas?


I'm having problems with a NeXT server machine panic'ing the kernel
(Read: Crash & Burn).

The server is crashing with messages 'zone "objects" empty' 'receiver
buffer overrun' and 'panic: (CPU 0) zalloc' when the panic occurs.

Have any of you ever heard of anything like this?  I mean obviously some
zone is becoming fully allocated and something wants to allocate more --
but what, from where???   My problem is that right now I have no idea
where the panic is coming from.  (Possibilities include everything from
some strange flakyness with NFS to perhaps a problem with the modem
being set right for dialing in...)


On a related note -- would anyone know what can mess up /etc/utmp??? 
When I dialed in (this server is 300 miles away -- joy ;-(  ) about an
hour before the latest panic, I noticed that finger was returning warped
information about who was logged in, and for how long they had been
logged in....


Any ideas???



            Thanks,

                -David Apfelbaum.
                 da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: rs6000 & nexts
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:15:28 GMT

William Leeke writes
> 
> 
> 	I recently read a post (I think) in c.s.n.a. about  
using Next's as a front end for rs6000 (rs is for rat  
s---). Due to the row in that newsgroup posting there is a  
problem. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. 
> 

What would you like to know?

We have three rs6000's that are used as number crunchers.
We have a raft of nexts that are hooked to the same  
ethernet.  

Typically people use Edit to write their code, Stuart to  
connect to the IBM, xlf on the IBM to compile their code, 
run the code, and use nxyplot, mathematica, SciPlot, and  
hippoplotimus to look at results, and FrameMaker and TeX to  
write their papers.

The Nexts and the IBM's share a common user filespace via  
NFS.

There are basically two programs that people run on the  
console of the IBM's.  XV and flight.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rmcghee@fnma.com(Rich McGhee)
Subject: What is Stuart?
Reply-To: rmcghee@fnma.com
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:49:07 GMT

What is Stuart I hear so much about?

--
Rich McGhee
Federal National Mortgage Association
Wash DC
NeXTMail: rmcghee@FNMA.COM
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Looking for a Font
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:09:24 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Geoff Brunkhorst writes
> Anybody seen a NeXT compatible version of
> 
> 	Optima-Medium
> 
> Adobe/RightBrain has Optima and Optima-Bold, but I cannot locate a Mac, PC
> or unix font vendor that has Optima-Medium.  My intuition tells me that
> it is one of those 'exists only on "blah"-compatible typesetting systems'. 

"Optima" is Optima Medium.  That's the only weight there is besides
Bold.  The naming convention somewhere along the way was to drop the
"Medium", as in "Helvetica", "Palatino", and so forth, all of which
are Medium weights.

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Re: Color memory questions
Reply-To: uunet!lkba!lkb
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:05:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.210129.14534@cs.yale.edu>  
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:

[...]

> [...]   But you know, it's damn frustrating to work
> so hard keeping the FAQ when people ignore it again and
> again... 
> 
> --
> Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
> Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
> New Haven, CT
> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
> 

I read the FAQs and I'd bet many many of us do, especially those who are  
more experienced with Usenet.  They contain a wealth of information and  
Nathan (and his predecessors) should be congratulated for their efforts in  
keeping track of this information. (Not to mention the MIS-information that  
needs to be filtered out!)

While I can understand Nathan's frustration with posters who ignore (or  
don't know about) the FAQ, I also know that there are many times when  
someone is successful getting his or her answer from the FAQ.  They just  
never post to tell us about it :-).

Good work Nathan, don't let the frustration get to you.  There will always  
be a few who think that it is easier to POST than to READ!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dglattin@trirex.com (Dennis Glatting)
Subject: Re: Adding new users...
Organization: Trirex Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:52:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.193445.2436@pellns.alleg.edu> heidelj@alleg.edu  
(Jason Heideloff) writes:
> Would anyone happen to know what the solution is to speeding up the  
> process time involved with adding new users?  We use the nu program and  
we  
> have a user base of approx. 1500 accounts.  When we add new users it  
takes  
> about 5 - 10 minutes to add new users.  Is there anything we can do to  
> increase the speed of the nu program?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason Heideloff
> heidelj@alleg.edu

What is the bottle neck?  If it is adding an account to NetInfo then you  
may be out of luck.

--
Dennis P. Glatting
Sr. Technical Manager
Trirex Systems Inc.
315 Post Road West
Westport, Connecticut   06880
203-221-4614
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: missing printer socket
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 23:01:03 GMT

da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Apfelbaum) writes:

>Someone please correct me if I'm wrong....


>Shouldn't "/etc/MAKEDEV std" make the printer device?   (Along with the
>other standard devices?)


If you're talking about /dev/printer, it's created by lpd when it
starts up.  Notice that /dev/printer is deleted in /etc/rc at each
reboot.
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bill@epnxt.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: What "C" methods are used to access File information?
Reply-To: bill@epnxt.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: nasa-jsc
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:02:27 GMT

I wish to have my "C" program files for size and dates but can not find  
any "C" method.  Does anyone know which commands are used?  

Thanks in advance.

	Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: crippled netinfo
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 01:15:23 GMT

del+@CMU.EDU (Daniel Edward Lovinger) writes:


>	I think my current options are limited to converting to YP on
>the fly (something we have very little experience with). I have also
>heard of third party NetInfo server implementations ... and
>experience? Could a 3.0beta site comment on NetInfo changes? Would
>that also be a realistic option? Can 2.0 machines contact a 3.0
>server?
I have been told that 3.0's server is much faster and more
efficient, and that 2.0 stations can be served by a 3.0 netinfo
server just fine.  I intend to do just that once we receive the
final release of 3.0.
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: TransSys SLIP help needed
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:12:36 GMT
Reply-To: jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Aug19.173904.25937@news2.cis.umn.edu>  
jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (JeffHallgren) writes:
> 	I've been trying to connect my home NeXT (no network) to my work  
> NeXT (on a subnet) using TranSys Dialup-IP. I'm having difficulty with  
the  
> routing, netmasking and broadcast aspects. The modems are working fine  
and  
> the login to bring up SLIP works fine but, no packets are ever moved.  
None  
> of the log files indicate that errors are occurring. I need someone  
> comfortable with IP routing and SLIP to help me set this up.
> 	I emailed nextcomm@carrara.bos.marble.com with log file exerpts  
> and ifconfig info but have not received any reply. Yes, its an ugly  
> (murky?) subject, but, I think with just a little tweaking it'll work.  
If  
> you have time and think you could help please contact me.
> 	Thanks,
> 	Jeff
> 
Hey! Hold it right there. The routing you need to do can't be done. When  
TCP/IP hands off to ethernet the Address Resolution Protocol (ARP) kicks  
in and converts the 32 bit IP address to a 48 bit ethernet address. When  
you are using SLIP you don't have ethernet so no traffic is possible  
between your ethernet and SLIP. Give up now. Just copy all your junk to a  
floppy to take home and use your work time to read mail and use  
NewsGrazer. 
	Responding to my own postings,
	Jeff
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