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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Frank Farina (French football)
Date: 3 Sep 1992 05:29:26 -0500
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> Can anyone familiar with the French scene tell me how Frank Farina(ex Bari)
> is going with new club Strasburg?
Well, firstly read my articles, that gives you some of the answers.
Farina didn't play from start in two first weeks, but I think he is regular 
now. (He was a starter in week 3 and I haven't got France Football with the
line-ups for week 4, yet)
> 
> Also how are Lens and Robbie Slater doing?
Not very well, I'm afraid.
If you want, I can add you to my E-mail service (you probably get articles
faster, then)

Kent, the r.s.s. contact for French football :-)
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From: lawarree@milton.u.washington.edu (Jacques Lawarree)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Belgian results, PLEASE!
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:54:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep2.175409.11057
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle




No games were played in Belgium last wee-end b/c of WC game today against Czk.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: dglow@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Dave Low)
Subject: Re: Referee's Whistle
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:43:46 GMT

I have watched and refereed a lot of soccer in North America and there 
is one common problem. The player really do not know how o play soccer.
Common problems are that tackles are much harder than in Europe. Most
players believe that they are playing American Football or Hockey. This
makes the sport violent. Also there is very little respect for 
officaials of rules (too much wrestling). The players play this way because
this is the way that North Americans have always played all of their
sports. As a certified referee in three sports, Ihave seen this in 
every sport that I referee. I do not believe that there isa way
to change this but it really hurts the refereeing quality since the
referees take on the same attitdue as the players making them worse.
I think it will be a long time beofer a Canadaian or American team
is ever a contender for the World Cup.
From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: American legislators..(was:Re: Heading: Dain Bramage??)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:03:33 GMT

I think it would be wise to note that NONE of the studies done so far have 
been done by US researchers, in fact, the book that most of these studies have
been published in is from England.

It ain't us! (Although it may catch on fast, once the bottom-feeding pond scum
(read: lawyers) find out....)

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu

DISCLAIMER : As individuals, most of the lawyers I personally know are quite 
nice people, but as a class lawyers rank right down there with insurance or 
used-car salesman.
From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Wallace Mercer
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:54:42 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <25307@castle.ed.ac.uk>, emct46@castle.ed.ac.uk (J H Dempsey) writes:
> I have heard that the Hearts deal for Hermiston has a nasty undercurrent
> of corruptionbeneath it . David Murray owns many acres of land in the
> green belt around hermiston and sold some of it to his pal Wallace for a
> song (no planning permission though). Wallaces job was to submit a
> planning application for a stadia, some houses, some shops etc nothing
> too major. On approval and once the green belt had been breached in
> would step David Murray (who has written into Wallaces contract of sale
> that he gets more money if planning permission is granted) who takes the
> line "Well the green belt is not really sacred if Wallace got to build
> on it I want to build on it too" at which point he will make a killing. 
> Rumours also abound of payoffs as that why Wallace was so pissed off at
> the rejection. He had been told by various sycophantic counsellors whose
> help he has been getting that they would see the deal through but
> things went wrong. Hes now banned the visual media from all his press
> conferences after the scenes of him calling members of the press
> lefties. That didnt go down too well


As said before.  Would you trust these two men?

Sean Subterranean
From: craa26@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( J.McAllister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Souness (was Re: What's happening to liverpool)
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:57:51 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

No doubt many blue-noses will also correct you, but Jock Wallace
was not the manager when Rangers won the Cup winners cup, it
was Willie Waddell.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:25:45 -0400 
From: Jerry A Okoko <jo25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: re:re:polling audience

Andy,
Although it is a touchy issue, I will, for the benefit of your poll,
release my age information to you. I am 23 yrs old (there, I said it).
Please be more sympathetic to your audience in the future especially
when the whole world is listening!!!!! Later--Keep the peace./\
                                           jerry.
                

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From: c9106863@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (LORD MICK HAS SUMMONED YOU...)
Subject: Frank Farina (French football)
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:03:33 GMT


Can anyone familiar with the French scene tell me how Frank Farina(ex Bari)
is going with new club Strasburg?

Also how are Lens and Robbie Slater doing?

Mick
From: mphillip@MATAI.VUW.AC.NZ
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: REQUEST:Div.1. Scores (Eng)
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:21:27 GMT

Could those of you who post Premier League Scores from Eng;land PLEASE
include Div 1 scores if you have them. I am an exiled Newcastle supporter
and they are enjoying their best start since 1908 and have had nearly
30,000 crowds for every game at home so far (which puts about 99.9% of the
so-called "Premier League"to shame) including the highest crowd on the
opening day of the season. I'm not complaining, but if you have the info
please include.


Howay the Lads!
Martin
Martin Phillipson
Faculty of Law
Victoria University
PO Box 600
Wellington NZ
tel +64 -4- 472-1000 x 8284     	or +64-4-471-5342 x 8284
fax +64 -4- 495-5236

email address   mphillip@matai.vuw.ac.nz

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)
Subject: Dutch competition (ere-divisie), delayed and advanced game.
Summary: played 2/9.
Organization: Universiteit van Amsterdam.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:10:01 GMT
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PSV - Cambuur 3-0
   14' Koeman
   62' Kieft
   80' van Aerle

FC den Bosch - Sparta 1-1
   22' Goossens     1-0
   85' van den Berg 1-1

Sunday the big game Ajax - PSV, with Romario in the stands.

Romario was pissed of about his substitution in the second half against
Real Madrid, last week. So he said he was sick and did not turn up for
training. Trainer Westhof and PSV-management were not too happy
about this and suspended Romario from training with the group for one
week. This also implied him being out of the line up against Cambuur and
Ajax.

Romario was substituted because a day earlier he played a half with the
Brazilian team. Romario had scored twice against Real and wanted to
stay on and try to win the game for PSV. Because this would mean PSV
would play the final against Sao Paulo (sp?), which would be
broadcasted live in his home-country Brazil. Westerhof announced his
substitution beforehand, to avoid fatigue-related injuries.

joost.

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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: African football
Date: 1 Sep 1992 07:31:43 -0500
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I just read an old article on this topic comparing Cameroon and Ghana.
Actually both teams most well-knonw players play in the same team nowadays,
i'e' Francois Omam-Biyik and Abedi Pele for Olympique Marseille.
Otherwise I think Cameroon have more pros than Ghana in European leagues
(Pagal, Kana-Biyik and Belll at least in France) BUT I suppose it might change 
after Ghana's impressive record in Barcelona. On that topic, I'm glad I said 
that Ghana were one of the favourites. (Well... the other I thought were Italy 
and Sweden, hmmmm)

Kent
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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Friendly: France vs Brazil
Date: 27 Aug 1992 07:39:23 -0500
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    26th of August, International Friendly
    at Parc des Princes, Paris

         FRANCE              0         BRAZIL              2 :-( :-(
                                            Rai '42
                                            Luis Henrique '51
         Att.: 36500
  

    France:   Martini
              Durand - Boli - Roche - Prunier  - Petit
              Deschamps - Blanc
              Papin (Cap) - Ginola - Cocard

    Brazil:   Taffarel
              Branco - Ricardo - Rocha - Jorginho
              Rai (Cap) - Valdo - Mauro Silva - Luis Henrique
              Romario - Careca

    Since RFI didn't broadcast (what are they doing these days?) I don't
know anything about this at writing time, so I hope someone who watched
it on TV can write a report. And therefore, I don't make any analysis, either.

Kent
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| Kent Hedlundh             | Les Girondins - Champions de D2 1992!           |
| Dept. of Computer Science | France and Sweden for the WC'94!                |
| University of Umea        | All the best for my friends teams!              |
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From: harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh)
Subject: Re: Results needed from 26/8,29/8 and 1/9
Reply-To: harin@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:50:14 GMT

In article 5777@riacs.edu, evans@pan.arc.nasa.gov (Dan Evans) writes:
>Could someone send me the results of the following matches:
>
>26/8	Nottingham Forest vs Middlesborough

Looks like you are looking at the old fixture schedule, Dan. In the revised fixtures, this match will be played on October 21.

>1/9	Blackburn vs Everton

Same problem. This match will be played on September 15.

>29/8   Nottingham Forest  vs Man. United

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From: craa26@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( J.McAllister)
Subject: Re: More Sally and Gerry Stuff
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:05:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.165446.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
|> 
|> Just an after thought. I'm sure Ally would love to display his
|> medal collection to the current Celtic players. They'd be 
|> astonished at the number and variety of medals a professional
|> footballer can actually win. Just an after thought...
|> -- 
|> Sandy Mackinnon  the Mason in America
|> University of Strathclyde
|> Glasgow
|> cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
|> 
|> 

I think you'd find that Celtic's reserve goal keeper has got more medals
than Sally. Unless of course your counting Sally's Mason of the Month 
awards - something that our Pat is barred from taking part in.

On a more serious note I don't think Gerry Creaney should be playing 
for Scotland just yet. The man who should be at least in the squad if not 
the team is John Collins. He has been playing consistently well for Celtic
this season as well as last. Apart from being an natural leftsided midfield
player who can tackle well, he has a good understanding with Tommy Boyd.
Instead of this we'll probably see Dave McPherson playing as an overlapping
right back. 

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John McAllister                                 
Strathclyde University
Glasgow 
Scotland

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: European club competitions statistics
Keywords: England still top of the table, even after 5-year ban
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:29:38 GMT
Organization: Datalogisk afdeling - Aarhus Universitet

jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras) writes:

>Which brings me to a few questions:

>Will Scots/Welsh/Irishmen count as 'foreigners' when they play for
>English clubs, starting this season ? 

In Europe yes - in England no.

>Will players from EEC countries playing for other EEC teams (in a different
>country) count as 'foreigners',

Yes.

> or is there an EEC labour law that prohibits 
>this ? 

Not yet.

>How many 'foreigners' can a team field at a European match ?

3 (or is it 2?).
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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: Liverpool purchase James - the details
Organization: Philips Research Labs (Nat.Lab), Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:39:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.112612.25768@informix.com> richm@infmx.informix.com (Luther Blissett) writes:
>The deal once again sees a small club short-changed by
>one of the richest clubs in the country.  Watford already
>had 1.5 million pound bids for James tabled by Aston 
>Villa and Chelsea. 

Spare a thought for FC Twente in the Netherlands. They were already to sell
Arthur Newman to Manchester City for 1.5 million pounds when PSV Eindhoven
came in with a bid of 750,000. Twente naturally wanted Newman to go to
Manchester City but the player himself preferred PSV and so with the backing
of the Dutch PFA (eager to keep one of the better young Dutch players at home)
he took the issue to court and won. Newman went to PSV and FC Twente were left
750,000 pounds out of pocket.


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From: JI.RCB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Robert Bergmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: America(n) Rules 8-)
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:55:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep2.165510.17570
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

>If they're so all-fired concerned about injuries to kids, then why
>not do something about the 9 year olds playing american football?
>They're in a lot more danger than a dozen tykes running around a
>pitch in shorts kicking a ball around.

Wrong!  Not that I like american football but studies show a very low
rate of injury at the low age levels.  The kids don't run fast enough
and arn't strong enough to hurt each other with all the padding on.
Adult shashball is another story.
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Complete list of key transfers involving English clubs
Date: 28 Aug 1992 06:14:55 -0500
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Costas wrote in R.S.S.:> 
> Here's the complete list of this summer's key transfers involving
> English Premier Division clubs, in transfer-fee order (British
> pounds):
> 
> 1.0m		Chris Waddle		Marseilles to Sheff Wednesday
I don't want to be sticky, but I have seen this occuring more than once,
IT'S Marseille NOT Marseilles.

(To be fully correct, it should be Olympique Marseille)

Kent 

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+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
| Kent Hedlundh             | Les Girondins - Champions de D2 1992!           |
| Dept. of Computer Science | France and Sweden for the WC'94!                |
| University of Umea        | All the best for my friends teams!              |
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)
Subject: Re: Main dutch transfers this summer.
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:33:51 GMT
X-Should-Be-Newsgroup: rec.sport.football.real

rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

+ schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag) writes:
+ 
+ >   [a young Finnish international on loan, forgot his name]
+ 
+ You can't trick us - we know you can't spell it :-)
+ 

I - T.

That wasn't that difficult. 
You only have to be careful with putting extra E's on the end.

joost.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.netherlands
From: schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)
Subject: Dutch competition (ere-divisie), round 3.
Summary: played 28/8, 29/8 and 30/8.
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:09:04 GMT

Roda JC - Vitesse 0-2
   20' Straal
   34' van den Brom

Go Ahead Eagles - FC den Bosch 2-0
   10' Boere
   26' E. Overmars

Fortuna Sittard - Willem II 0-1
    5' Vincent

SVV/D '90 - MVV 2-2
    2' J. Simons 1-0
   14' Langerak  2-0
   17' Visser    2-1
   31' Lanckor   2-2

Sparta - Ajax 0-0
   
Volendam - RKC 0-2
   45' van Hoogdalum
   72' Boogers
       Molenaar of Volendam was sent off after his second yellow card.

FC Twente - FC Groningen 5-0
   23' Gaasbeek
   26' Kool
   79' de Boer
   84' Mulder
   90' Mulder

FC Utrecht - Feijenoord 0-0
   Trustfull of Feijenoord was sent off after his second yellow card.

PSV - Cambuur will be played this wednesday, because PSV was playing a
tournament in Spain this weekend.


Feijenoord      3 2 1 0 5 9-1
Ajax            3 2 1 0 5 6-1
FC Utrecht      3 1 2 0 4 4-1
Vitesse         3 1 2 0 4 3-1
FC Twente       3 2 0 1 4 6-5
RKC             3 1 1 0 3 2-0
Go Ahead Eagles 3 1 1 1 3 4-4
FC den Bosch    3 1 1 1 3 3-3
Willem II       3 1 1 1 3 2-2
Sparta          3 0 3 0 3 0-0
PSV             1 1 0 0 2 2-0
Cambuur         2 0 2 0 2 1-1
MVV             3 0 2 1 2 3-6
Roda JC         3 1 0 2 2 1-4
FC Groningen    3 0 2 1 2 1-6
Volendam        3 0 1 2 1 1-4
Fortuna Sittard 3 0 1 2 1 2-6
SVV/D '90       3 0 1 2 1 2-7

Notice:
On request this article is crossposted to soc.culture.netherlands.
Edit follow-up line appropiatly.

joost.

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From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: New FIFA Goalkeeper Rule
Date: 27 Aug 1992 14:30:03 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Yoonho Ha  writes:

This is just a question, but wouldn't disallowing all pass backs to the
keeper outside the penalty area get rid most of the time wasting pass backs?
keeper outside the penalty area solve most of the time wasting?

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=====================  Francis=========

This idea was considered after testing the current rule in the U-17 WC.

If the current rule should prove disastrous, this idea would be good to 
fall back on before eliminating the idea all together.

Francis.
From: antonio@arezzo.oas.olivetti.com (Antonio Maiuolo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Italian Supercup Result
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:58:39 GMT
Reply-To: antonio@arezzo.oas.olivetti.com (Antonio Maiuolo)
Organization: Olivetti Research California

In article <1992Aug31.230730.656@wam.umd.edu>, waddlech@wam.umd.edu
(David Akkarach) writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.191121.10619@europa.asd.contel.com>
andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
> >AC Milan 2      Parma 1

   Van Basten  1-0
	       1-1  penalty
   Massaro     2-1

> >
> >Andy
> >
> >
> 
> I believe this to be the first leg of the Italian Supercup. The second leg
> will be played this wednesday, 9/2.

No, this games is unique and is played at the league winners home
(Milan). So Milan definetely
won the Supercup.

> 
> -Dave
> 
> p.s. INTER beat milan, 2-0 some weeks ago in an exhibition match :-)))
> A

Why don't you remember that Milan beat Inter 1-0 (Papin) (
:-)))))))))))))))))) )in the Luigi
Berlusconi Cup (NOT just an exhibition like the one in which 3 teams
play each other in 45'
minutes games, so that each one plays 90' - I think this is a kind of bullshit)
From: gsakai@longrun.corp.sgi.com (Gordon Sakai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: America(n) Rules 8-)
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:45:08 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

(Matt Brown) writes:

>Bob - don't forget that with soccer, many American kids know NO rules
when
>they start, except to kick the ball, which they do mostly by toeing it
>NFL style.  Without some instruction, throw-ins would look like dodgeball
>throws, kickoffs are NFL style boots, goalies make kick saves hockey
style,
>and defenders bodycheck the ball carrier. 


	I thought the "I wanna be like Mike" commercials during the Olympics
spoke volumes about how kids learn.  In one scene we see a kid driving
toward
the hoop with his tounge hanging out.  In his attempt to be like Mike
(Michael
Jordan) he probably repeated that drive a 100 times.  I've seen my son do
the same, and in his repetitions, he experimented with his approach and
the
handling of the ball.

	The point is that kids learn by watching, imitating and experimenting.
The biggest problem with kids learning the game here in the U.S. is a lack
of opportunity to see very good players.