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From: jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Jens Rodenberg)
Subject: Dark Star skis!
Reply-To: jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:47:29 GMT


   In the new SKI Magazine (Sept. 1992, Buyer's Guide '93), there's a little
blurb about some new skis in the "Ski Life" section...

--
THE DEAD SKI ROLLS

   Why is a dead ski one of the most interesting new boards in shops this fall?
Because it's a Dead ski.
   Lunatic Fringe, a subsidiary of Anthony Industries (which also owns Olin,
K2, and PRE), has introduced the Dark Star, a light slalom ski that sports a
classic Grateful Dead topskin crowded with roses, skulls, and lightning bolts.
   According to Lunatic Fringe's John Douglas, band members Bob Weir and Bill
Kreutzman are both good skiers and were enthusiastic about the project. "The
Dead's marketing guys told us they had never done anything with sporting
goods."
   Mitch Osur, owner of the Snow Country ski shop in Rochester, N.Y. says
initial "response to the ski has been outstanding. People want to be
different."
   Lunatic Fringe also has plans to sell poles, a telemark ski, in-line skates
and a snowboard named Bertha.
--

   There's also a picture of the tips of the skis captioned "Fire on the
mountain; with Dark Star, the Dead has another hit."  The skis have a purple
background with a black border, a SYF almost at the tip where the logo usually
goes, roses beneath the SYF, and a red fading into orange lightning bolt below
the roses.

   In the Buyer's Guide section, it's listed as a slalom racing ski, available
in sizes 190-207cm, and priced at a whopping $495.  The comment says: "You may
know the Dark Star as the Grateful Dead ski. It's got a Dead-logo topskin with
an Olin RTS chassis. What's the ski good for? Truckin', Cold Rain and Snow."
The Olin RTS ranges from 180-207cm at $485.  Comments on the RTS: "Olin now
produces some of the most versatile skis on the market. Popular RTS torsion box
slalom (a 1991 Tester's Choice) has been revised this year with a softer tip
and tail to float more easily in Western-type snow."

   It looks like quite a good ski, but for that money I'd rather have
Dynastar's Vertical Assault.  I only recommend experienced skiers who know that
they want a slalom ski to buy these skis.  They would just be a waste of money
for inexperienced skiers and would make learning harder.  I wonder what they
will call the poles, telemark skis, and in-line skates?  Maybe Jack Straw,
Long Way To Go, and So Many Roads?  Maybe they should make some bindings
called Slipknot!

						Jens
From: charles@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Everybody In the Pool!
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:34:19 GMT
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.

Since we're all becoming so health conscious, here's the next step
after giving up those Marlboros.  It's.... JERRYCIZE!  Two JERRYCIZE
tapes can be created by anyone who has a fairly complete collection
of GD albums/CDs.  Actually work pretty well for water aerobics, and
each tape will fit on one side of a 90 if you cut the cooldown song...
and each song is supposed to remind you of what exercises to do.

Offer not valid in Antarctica, but it works pretty well here in
Phoenix!


JERRYCIZE I:

Golden Road...		"Come on..." everybody in the water.  You
			have about three minutes to get all the way in!
			"Come and join the party" and do it "every day!"
New Speedway Boogie	"it's hard to run with a weight of lead," so...
			work those legs!
Bertha			Aerobics time!  Let's give it a "hard run" now!
			Running in place - arms and legs!
Hell in a Bucket	... and we move to the "bucket" - twist around
			and work those abdominals!
U.S. Blues (SYF vers)	"wave that flag" and get those arms going!
Sugar Magnolia		Can _you_ stay afloat through the whole
			Europe '72 version of this song?  If not,
			you'll "have to come up soon for air!"  The
			beginners' version omits SSDD.
Scarlet Begonias	OK, we put it all together now - dancing about
			the pool with total abandon just like you do
			whenever they play this one.
Fire On The Mountain	Back to the aerobics.  Everybody's a "long
(Dead Set)		distance runner" for this one!
Greatest Story...	Work on whatever needs work.  Enjoy that "cool
			clear water!"
Black Muddy River	You made it!  Good work.  And a little BMR on
			the tape to encourage you to get out of the pool
			and shut off the player :-)

JERRYCIZE II:

Don't Ease Me In	To get you in the water.  You have 'til the
			song ends to get all the way in.
Walking Blues		Work those legs!  "Worst ol' feeling I most
(Dead Set)		ever had," but... no pain, no gain!  Or is it,
			"no brain, no pain?"
Around and Around	Time to work those abdominals again, "goin'
(OFTV I)		'round and 'round."
Deal			Swing those arms, deal those cards!  But don't
			"play it slow" - go for it!
Dancing In The Streets	OK, let's get everything working now.  Wild
			abandon, shake it up!
Big River		Time to float on down the river with the Grateful
			Dead.  Can you stay afloat for the whole song???
Foolish Heart		Run in place and work those "foolish hearts."
			Don't forget to breathe!!!
Casey Jones		Work those arms like "this old engine!"
Throwing Stones		Back to the twisting and "spinning" and working
			on that GUT!  Shake them bones!
Ripple			And here's a nice cooldown song for those days
			when you're in no hurry to get out of the water.
			Just relax and enjoy!
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From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Subject: Re: CANCELLED SHOWS & BAD NEWS  :^(
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:49:10 GMT

lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein) writes:

> This is from today's San Francisco Chronicle, dated 8/11/92
> 
> SHORELINE GRATEFUL DEAD SHOWS CANCELLED
> 
>      The Grateful Dead announced yesterday that the band will cancel
> its August 25-27 dates at Shoreline Amphitheatre and a concert August
> 22-23 in Veneta, Ore., due to the continued illness of guitarist
> Jerry Garcia.
>      Garcia had cancelled concert dates scheduled last weekend at the
> Warfield Theater due to exhaustion.
>      Tickets for the Shoreline dates can be returned to point of purchase
> for refunds.
> 
> (end of article)
> 
> 
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
> 
> For what it's worth, here is what I've heard.  This info comes from one
> of my best friends.  He has a friend who is friends with one of Ken Kesey's
> kids and this is what came down the pipeline.  Jerry was in Marin General
> Hospital for several days.  The exhaustion is due to the fact that he
> has an enlarged heart.  My friend talked with his mother-in-law show who is 
> a registered nurse.  She said that for the normally healthy human, an
> enlarged heart can be easily treated and that person can live a normal 
> everyday life.  She said that it is a different story for someone like
> Jerry who abused his body for a period of time.  This probably helped
> contribute to his current condition.  He will need lots of rest.
> 
> I am by no means an authority in medical matters.  If anyone with medical
> expertise (an MD or RN) can elaborate on this condition, please let the 
> rest of us know!
> 
> --larry

leave it to Jerry to suffer from having a "big" heart!

Xref: sparky rec.music.gdead:14924 rec.audio:11596
From: steveha@sco.COM (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: Does Garcia have an obligation?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:10:13 GMT



From: lenniec@ft-b.isc-br.com (Lennie Carlberg)
Subject: Re: Does Garcia have an obligation?
In article <1992Aug13.182155.15550@isc-br.isc-br.com> Lennie Carlberg
wrote:

>  One thing that nobody has mention yet is the fact that in the fall of
>  91? Jerry specifically said that he needed/wanted a 6 month break from
>  touring with the Dead. But he was out voted by the rest of the BAND.
>  Now this is pure speculation but I bet that if Grateful Dead had taken
>  that break like Jerry wanted/needed to that he would not be in the 
>  condition he's in now.

>  Lennie Carlberg

Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't.  PURE speculation.

Sounds to me like the problem was more Jerry's general care of himself 
rather than the band "pushing" him.  I saw an interview with Jerry in the
Santa Cruz Sentinel a few days before his birthday and he was thoroughly
enjoying himself.

A better bet would be that if Jerry would take on some of the responsibility
he created, he would not be in the condition he's in now.  Much better odds
and much more likely.

In fact, it's possible that if Jerry had rested then, not changed his 
lifestyle and then toured with the Dead full-bore again, he might have
had a heart attack, instead of just exhaustion.

I would never have hooked up with these people if I thought for a minute
that this was a cult, with Jerry as your leader.  I know from the bottom
of my soul that this is the beginning of a new era, and the Grateful Dead 
is at/near the intellectual/spiritual/cultural center of this change.

Don't let Jerry's problem become yours and mine.  Take a lead from the
rest of the band.  But nevertheless...

WE LOVE YOU JERRY!  GET WELL SOON, but don't forget to take your time!!!


--SH

=========================================================================
"Small wheel turning by the firin' rod,			     Jerry
 Big Wheel turning by the Grace of God,			    The Dead
 And everytime that Wheel turns 'round,			      You
 It's bound to cover just a little more ground.                &
 BOUND TO COVER JUST A LITTLE MORE GROUND"                     Me.
				--Hunter (right?)

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From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Crazy Fingers gig 8/22
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:04:47 GMT


We had cancelled this gig because I was going to Eugene to broadcast the
Field Trip, but we thought it would be nice to have a gathering in San
Francisco after all t hat's gone down this week.

So,

CRAZY FINGERS with Sweethearts of the Bancroft Lounge

Saturday, August 22, 9pm

Last Day Saloon, 406 Clement Street, San Francisco

This looks to be the Well gathering for that weekend, and we'd like the
Deadheads of netland to join us, too!

-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

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From: moffitt@chopin.udel.edu (Curtis Moffitt)
Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead and the Mixolydian Mode...
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:51:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.215519.17522@vicorp.com> mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous) writes:
>
>Curt wrote a lot of stuff explaining Mixolydian. I just remember eons ago
>putting on Dark Star and just playing those major scales in D. Sounded great!
>:-)
>
>--Mark 

Yeah, I love jamming a Dark Star.  It is in A mixolydian so the D scale is
the appropriate one to use... have fun!

Later, Curt

Another .sig:
****** Just when you thought you saw the last of Mixolydian.... ******

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From: "Ken, CIM Systems Engineering/Database Technologies  20-Aug-1992 1413" <hannan@gnpike.enet.dec.com>
Subject: deadicated II suggestion
Reply-To: hannan@gnpike.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:12:25 GMT

How about Willie Nelson doing Stella Blue ?  

Ken
From: Victoria.M.Haliburton@dartmouth.edu (Victoria M. Haliburton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: RFK tree - important message
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:45:14 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

The tree has been sent and posted in a narrow and I hope readable form.


Those who missed the early sign-up *will* have a chance on the branches
we are holding open for them. Do not panic, and get back to us when we
get back.

If your branch hangs up, I *do* want to know, but not now - when we get
back.

Your friendly administrator is going on a much-needed vacation. For
about ten days we will tie the fiance to a tree and watch him have
hayfever. We will be unplugged from our computers and incommunicado for
that period.

After that I will have to deal with his very uncooperative mailer. So
until sometime in September, please save the chit-chat and send
emergencies only. If your branch fails, do get back to me then.

Have fun - we will.

Vic 
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From: schiller@tira.uchicago.edu (Eric Schiller)
Subject: Re: Notes from night #4 of GOP convention... Georgie goes for round #2!
Organization: Center for Information and Language Studies / University of
	Chicago
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:41:51 GMT

No, there is no lie which Bush will not utter to further his cause.
He wants us to read his lips while he lies through his teeth.

But remember, folks, this i
election is about "trust"!

Eric Schiller
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: steveha@sco.COM (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: Fall tour cancelled
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 23:03:18 GMT



I suspect that they have not decided yet as to whether the
tour is going to be cancelled or not.

The new west coast hotline message stated, "mail order over,
box office on-sale date postponed indefinitely", for all of
the tour dates.  This left things a bit open ended.

I kinda hope they do bail on the Fall tour to do a longer
Winter tour instead.  Jerry to rest, band to rehearse (maybe!).

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: nsax.uoregon (Norma Sax)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Does Garcia etc
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:06:32 GMT
Organization: university of oregon

i'm not flaming you, but don't you think Jerry should take care 
of himself because everbody needs in order to be healthy and
lead a happier, more productive life? jerry's not a commodity,
he's not in service to us. he's not obligated to take better care
of himself so he can make music for us...he's only obligated to 
himself and to be a healthy person for himself. let's not blame
him, let's support him in his efforts to lead a healthier lifestyle.

so let's give him all the time and space he needs to recover. let's
stop whining about when the band will play again.

norma sax
From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Nicotine Primal Scream
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:13:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug19.211309.9695
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


  Day 4-  AAAAAAUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce- send me a picture will ya?  I think I'll fill my squirt
gun with urine and shoot you-
Wharfie- after mommy and daddy die, I'm gonna get a DC-3 to 
tour in, we'll swing by the islands and pick up Belli- by
then we should have satalite photographs of your peyote patch...
One stinking asshole in the antpile quits smoking and you
want to ban smoking at all Grateful Dead shows?  (I can't
remember which one of you geniuses came up with this one)
Steve- (not you TOO) I'm gonna use your sprint card for
a quickie to Pinedale cause I think that he said she said
shit is horseshit!
Steve- (yes you TOO) folks- I violated Steve's confidentiality
and anonymity on the net-  It was wrong and I won't do it again.
Catfish- I think I really need an out of the body experience...
Mike- email me and let me know when you'll be home, I really need
to talk to you about being in love with my respritory therapist

And the rest of you- you can do anything you want to do as long
as you cause no harm!

I don't give a shit if you smoke as long as I can fart!
Man, if I couldn't fart at Dead Shows... Jezus!  All them
veggie burrito's!  Be all bloated up and doubled over with
gas pains- stagger into Rock Med screaming "Rick!  Rick! 
Quick!  I need a sunshine enema!  Get the K-Y!  Clear the
women and children out!"

                   eagle
         (tenuously connected to what little sanity I have)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ps9456@medtronic.COM (Pete Sperzel)
Subject: Taping Questions
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:45:31 GMT


I have some questions about taping shows. I have not taped at a show
since the early 80's before taper tix were created. Back then it
was sneak your NAK 550 or Sony D5 in unless you "knew" someone who 
could get you past whatever security existed. So assuming that
one had a valid taper ticket and that the show was not cancelled
yet (rest well Jerry and maybe try some nicotine pathces or 
something), what restrictions do the band and GDP put on taping.
For instance, are DATs allowed, Do you have to supply battery
power, how many taper tix are issued per show and does that
vary per venue, how high can your mics go, etc. Any info will
be greatly appreciated if not responded too immediately.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Pete Sperzel     Medtronic Inc., CAE/CAD Dept.
                 email ps9456@medtronic.com 


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tsl@eng.umd.edu (Tom Livingston)
Subject: Re: smokin' at shows
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:18:51 GMT

*** My Mailfeed is broken, so you can't send mail right now... ***

In article <1992Aug19.045015.29125@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>
>in the last few years. Just bring a good solid water pistol with
>decent range and accuracy, and put peoples ciggarettes out for
>them. Not only does it work, but it's ALOT of fun too! If people

	Oh, Jesus Christ.  Maybe you should put some LSD in 'em, to 
open people's minds too...  Since you know what's best.

>-bq
>


Tom Livingston					h: 301 434 9066
US Postal Service, PCD				w: 301 925 1058
9200 Basil Ct.
Landover, MD 20785-5390		 		tsl@alumni.src.umd.edu
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Does Garcia have an obligation?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:07:14 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <Aug.12.14.49.50.1992.16273@gandalf.rutgers.edu> pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Peter Fein) writes:
>once).  Does Jerry have an obigation to stay healthy and keep the band
>going strong especially since they keep those tours coming.

	His only obligation is to do what makes him happy.
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From: dsle@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.s.lerner)
Subject: Re: Fall Tour - tix?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:53:53 GMT

I'm praying that he gets better and listens to that doctor. I've seen him 
chain-smoke Camels years ago and was convinced then it would harm his future.

However, wonder what will happen with the tickets we got and the money orders
they have for MSG which I've haven't seen/heard of anyone getting yet.

A slim, healthy Jerry would be more vibrant on stage.

Get well soon, captain trips..

Dave
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  Does Garcia have an obligation?
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

Steve! It was you! You designed the "Shit Happens" bumpersticker, didn't you.
'fess up!
Just kidding.  I actually agree with you on this one.  It's not for us to say.
We can hope that he does well, and wish him the best. We can hope that his
friends and his family have a positive influence on him (whatever positive
means to them, not us).  Nothing wrong with expressing our selfish desires,
as long as we don't confuse them with prescriptions for somebody elses well-
being.

It is human nature to think we see what's best for the other guy. Just
as it is our nature not to see what's best for ourselves until we step in it.
If we are lucky, we get the chance to pull our foot back, bandage it up or
clean off the poop, and get back truckin'.  I hope Jerry gets back truckin'
when and if he's ready.

Matt
Bobby sez it best:
Look out, 'cause here comes some free advice
From: lip@felina.Eng.Sun.COM (Philo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: ATTENTION: Tim Keane (timke@microsoft.com)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:42:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: felina

Tim,
	If you read this please reply regarding the 8/21/68 tape tree.  

BTW, does anyone know if Tim Keane has gone on vacation or has e-mail 
problems?  

Thanks,
	John

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From: quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia)
Subject: Re: Deadhead of the Year
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 06:03:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.230624.3177@news.acns.nwu.edu> tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall) writes:
>  Day 6- still not smoking!
>So with all of this going on, I forgot one of the most important
>dates in History.  August 18th.  (It's my mother's birthday but
>that's irrelevant to this thread)  August 18th, 1956, Bill Wilson,
>the co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous dosed for the first time
>on some of that primo old time Sandoz LSD-25.  He said it was the
>same experience that he'd had spontaneously 21 years before that
>lead to his sobriety and the sobriety of countless thousands of
>others, thus proving that a Mystic Experience, whether spontaneous
>or exogenously induced, was a Mystic Experience!
>  Bill Wilson was Time's Man of the Year for 1971.  A fine day 
>for Acidheads all over the world!  Which also coincides with the
>creative epitomy of the Grateful Dead coincedentally.  So maybe
>Pig Pen and Janis, (the only good thing to EVER come out of TEXAS-
>read my middle finger Wr and Bruce) hated to dose 'cause it made
>'em want to stop drinking!
>  And folks- If you live on the EAST COAST or LA or any other
>URBAN BLIGHT SHITHOLE in the midwest, you might as well smoke
>'cause you're filling your lungs with crap everytime you suck
>air- SO WHO CARES if some asshole lights up a cigarette next to
>you at a DEAD SHOW?
>  Now who wants to open nominations for Deadhead of the year?
>David Graham perhaps? (Remember the "Top 10 Reasons Shoreline
>Loves Deadheads")  How 'bout Bruce Hornesby for skipping summer
>tour 'cept RFK and only playin' accordian when he did show up?
>Bill Walton for playing Baba O'Riley>TNK during halftime in
>Portland in the middle of the NBA finals?  Donna Godcheux for
>putting up with mindless cheap shots from people who never even
>knew her on the net.?
>
>
Hey Beagle- read my middle finger- Chicago is as big a shithole
as any city in this country so why don't you come off this bullshit 
geographic-facism trip that you're so into. 
>           beagle
>
BTW, you're as uptight and self-absorbed as ANY New Yorker I've ever
met, but they don't spend all their time sounding off like you do.



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From: support@well.sf.ca.us (WELL Support Staff)
Subject: Regarding WELL account misused, possibly by a cracker.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:04:41 GMT

A couple of days ago (Monday night, and it's Wednesday here now) some
immature rather nasty postings were made to this group.  We have tried
to contact the WELL customer whose account was used (Mike Rodrigues)
and have found that he is on vacation - and in a place where it is
unlikely that he has access to a computer and phone lines...

In any case, we have restricted the account in question
(mikestar@well.sf.ca.us) 

I would like to apologize to anyone who had to deal with this stuff -
the WELL expects its users to behave a little (alot) better than this,
and having a cracker use someone's account to post rude comments
doesn't help us or anyone share this electronic space.

	-Matisse Enzer
	 WELL Customer Support Manager

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