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From: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Bon Jovi guy
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:19:19 GMT
Reply-To: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

Hello: To the guy who is so caught up about Bon Jovi (st923559), who is
to say that you are an expert about music? I happen to think you have
terrible taste in music, but that's just my opinion. You might not like
my music, but we *all* can't be fans of Mr. Big and FireHOSE like you
are, can we? Get a life and stop worrying about a band like Bon Jovi.
They might be hard, they might not be. Who are you to be judge and jury?
My vote is don't put them here. Don't they have their own group already?
Anyway, no need for flames, etc. These are just my couple of cents. Thanks
for your time and space. Bye!
From: jagerm@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Jager)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: Operation: Mindcrime
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:16:38 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan21.185638.4096@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>I was just wondering if anyone knows some info for me from the Mindcrime/
>Livecrime CDs.	I was wondering if anyone out there knows who killed
>Mary.  Was it Dr. X, was it Nikki, or was it a suicide.  I know that on the 
>Video: Mindcrime the words suicide do occasionally pop up on the screen, but
                            ^^^^^^^
That's the answer.


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Operation: Mindcrime
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:19:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.190947.6827@newstand.syr.edu> ejrasiel@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Ethan J. Rasiel) writes:
>If Mary's death was a suicide, why does one of the songs mention that
>her rosaries were wrapped around her throat?  I've never heard of someone 
>commiting suicide by self-strangulation.  I'm not sure which song mentions
>this but I am fairly certain of it.  
>
That's in "Eyes Of A Stranger." Maybe he meant the rosary was around her throat
but it wasn't around it too tight so as to strangle her. How she kills herself
though I'm not too sure.

wei hao


Wang Wei Hao                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: non postable bands BELONG HERE !
Reply-To: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:40:43 GMT

bull fucking shit this group was created for Bon Fucki.  If you think that
this is for Bon Jovi, your more fucked than the person who put them on
the heavy metal board
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Operation: Mindcrime
Reply-To: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:56:38 GMT

I was just wondering if anyone knows some info for me from the Mindcrime/
Livecrime CDs.	I was wondering if anyone out there knows who killed
Mary.  Was it Dr. X, was it Nikki, or was it a suicide.  I know that on the 
Video: Mindcrime the words suicide do occasionally pop up on the screen, but
I'm not sure.  Thanks		Michael @ Brandeis
From: rps92@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Richard Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: New Deep Purple material
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:00:20 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.hard

Here are some of the things to be released in 1993 that I have heard
about on the underground grapevine

MADE IN JAPAN

This will be a super 6LP/4CD boxed set containing all the shows that
Purple did in Osaka 15/16 August and Tokyo 17 August, 1972 with giant
booklet of photos and sleeve notes

LIVE IN LONDON

This will be a double CD containing the complete performance at London's
Kilburn Theatre, March 1974

COMPLETE BOXED SET

This will be every album released from 1968 to 1976 on 8 CDs (I think)

SINGLES As AND Bs

This will be an issue of every A and B side of all singles released from
1968 to 1976, together with some rare edits and a full colour booklet with
loads of rare single sleeves

LIVE BOXED SET

Still on the drawing board this one, the plan is to get as many CDs as is
reasonable to put several live sets together - suggestions are for Montreaux
'69, California Jam '73 and Long Beach '76 - other radio album tracks may
surface somewhere

NEW STUDIO ALBUM

And last, but not least, a brand new studio album from the Blackmore/Gillan/
Glover/Lord/Paice line-up again, to be followed by another world tour (probably)
Can you wait?
From: mutrh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Todd R. Haverstock)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Sammy Hagar vinyl
Date: 23 Jan 1993 13:22:46 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu


Wanted: Old Sammy Hagar vinyl from the 70's.. Esp "Musical Chairs" , "Loud
and Clear", any other.  Send email, please.  Thanks

Todd R. Haverstock
mutrh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
mutrh@ecnuxa.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: tsolis@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Pearl Jam
Organization: Clark University
Date: 26 JAN 93 17:32:42 GMT

I want to find that Unplugged too!  If anyone has a copy...please let me know.
Also...I got into the band a little too late after all the hype.  I missed
all the MTV stuff on them (interviews, mag articles, etc.)  If anyone can e-mailme with any interesting information, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Theresa
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: krothman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ken Rothman)
Subject: Re: what brandeis st923377 said
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:57:56 GMT

st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>To anyone who has read the note from Brandeis st923377 is an idiot.  He has
>no musical taste to put on this board.  He listens to Barry Manelo, or
>however the fuck you spell his last name.  Please send him lots of hate mail
>because he posted something on our board, something that he has no knowledge
>about.  Please realize that he is a lost soul and can not be helped.  Make
>sure that if you read anything from Brandeis, you make sure to recognize
>that I am st923559, this fake poser is st923377.  I don't want anyone to
> mix me up with someone with no musical taste.  By the way, his first name
>is Marty, and he posts his opinions on the muppets board and the 90210 board
>as well as info on The Class of '96.
>.
>	Michael Burstin		Brandeis University


You guys are really making the perception of Brandeis' student body shine.  
Let me assure the rest of the world that we are not all like this.

(Guys... leave this to local.devilbunnies (you belong there) and let the 
rest of the net have some intelligence)

Ken


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: The war I created
Reply-To: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:50:08 GMT

Since I seen to have joined a war in the heavy metal board, and now moved it
here, why don't we see what everyone thinks.  The war is over Bon Jovi and 
the fact that some don't think that they belong here, and some do.  While 
nobody can prevent anyone from posting something here, why don't we find out
everyone's opinion.  I decided that maybe I can create a poll and see what
everyone thinks.
	The question is:
		DO YOU THINK THAT A BAND LIKE BON JOVI BELONGS ON THIS BOARD?

If you dod or don't, send me your opinion.  I'm not sure how you send me
something, but most people send it this way, so take my address from above 
if it is different. My address is:

		IN%"ST923559@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU"

send me your opinions in the next few weeks and I will try to compile the
results and post them here.  If I get enough, I will post as I get info.
Please included any other comments that you like. (even tell me to fuck off
if you want)  I am only going to take info that I have mailed to me, so don't
post it here if you want to count.

		Michael Burstin		Brandeis University
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd)
Subject: Re: Dream Theatre
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:13:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.015456.19478@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>The only thing that I have heard about Dream Theater is that they actually
>do have another album.  Images and Words is their second CD.  The only thing
>that I have heard is that their first CD is out of print and is no longer
>available as a new CD or tape.  The only way to get their first CD is by 
>buying it used.  This is only what I have heard from some friends at home.
>I have also heard that it is as good as Images and Words.  If that is true,
>try to find it.

Yes, the first album is only in print in Japan, but it's expected that
ATco will re-release it.  Musically, the first album is just as awesome,
but the singer isn't nearly as great (but more along the lines of Geddy
Lee's vocals).  Here the albums and their songs, etc, etc...

Images and Words	1992	Atlantic 7 92148-2	DDD
	Pull Me Under (8:11)
	Another Day (4:22)
	Take The Time (8:21)
	Surrounded (5:28)
	Metropolis - Part I  "The Miracle and the Sleeper" (9:30)
	Under A Glass Moon (7:02)
	Wait For Sleep (2:31)
	Learning To Live (11:30)

When Dream And Day Unite	1989	MCAD-42259	ADD
	A Fortune In Lies (5:10)
	Status Seeker (4:15)
	The Ytse Jam (5:43)
	The Killing Hand (8:40)
	Light Fuse And Get Away (7:23)
	Afterlife (5:27)
	The Ones Who Help Set The Sun (8:04)
	Only A Matter Of Time (6:35)

Members:
	James LaBrie - Vocals on I&W
	Charlie Dominici - Vocals on WD&DU
	Kevin Moore - Keyboards
	John Myung - Bass
	John Petrucci - Guitars
	Mike Portnoy - Drums and Percussion


I've seen 'em live twice and that's definitely something that should not
be missed!  Definitely the best concerts I've ever seen.  Be sure and
catch them live and up close in a local bar before they hit the
STADIUMS!

Be sure to read alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive.  It's been (almost)
exclusively DT news lately...

Dream On!

Mike
-- 
Michael Shepherd ++ mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu ++ shepherd.wbst129@xerox.com
* From the pain come the dream, From the dream come the vision, From the *
* vision come the people, And from the people come the power, From this  *
* power come the change.  - P. Gabriel                                   *
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: phil@philip.b30.ingr.com
Subject: Motley Crue is dead
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:54:44 GMT


Whats up with the former members of the Crue?

Vince Neil 
          --what's the release date for his 1st?
          --what kind of sound are they going for?


Nikki Sux, Tommy(can't play keyboards)Lee, Mick(should have left w/Vince)Mars,
& what's his name the new singer.
          --has anyone heard this guy sing
          --has Nikki lost his edge for writing
Seems like he has lost touch with reality. He should put more into the songs and leave the studio work to a real producer.


"Motley Crue is Vince, Tommy, Mick, & myself. If one of us leaves the band, that will be the end of Motley Crue"
--Nikki Sixx--

Does anyone else think they should drop the name?


--Phil


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:14:57 EST
From: <TWZ101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Pearl Jam Lyric (Singular)

     I've been "off net" for half a year (before which I didn't get this news-
 group), so if this PJ post is out of line for this group, no flames please.

     Could somebody post the lyrics to the song "Black" from _Ten_?  Or e-mail
 them to me?  There are several spots in the song where Vedder's slurring
 leaves me in the dark (no pun intended).
                                            T.Z.
                                         "Knowledge, was it worth such torment/
                                         To see the far side of shadow?"-- G.T.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:28:42 -0500 
From: Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: Operation: Mindcrime
	<1993Jan26.025041.25099@news.cs.brandeis.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.alt.rock-n-roll.hard: 26-Jan-93 Re: Operation:
Mindcrime st923559@pip.cc.brandeis (1476)

> I am the person who asked the question.
> I'm not really sure about if it was suicide, but there are several reasons
> why it might not
> If Mary's death was a suicide, why does one of the songs mention that
> her rosaries were wrapped around her throat?  I've never heard of someone  
> commiting suicide by self-strangulation.  I'm not sure which song mentions
> this but I am fairly certain of it.
> This being one.

> I also asked the people who run the QR newsletter and they said that they
> think that it was suicide, but they are not sure.

> I guess that the only sure way to find out would be to ask the members of QR.
> 	Anyone have any connections?????

> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> *       Michael Burstin         *       Brandeis University   *
> ***************************************************************

I'll have to go back and listen to the CD again, but my guess from reading
your question is that it is a metaphor against the Catholic church, or
any organized religion, being kind of a "moral dictator"in peoples lives,
and possibly the guilt from going against that "moral code" leading to the
suicide.  This is just a guess at what they were driving at, as I said,
I really
need to go back and listen to get the context this was presented in.

--Tom
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: ehrhart@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeffrey Ehrhart)
Subject: Re: Operation: Mindcrime
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:10:19 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1993Jan21.185638.4096@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
|> I was just wondering if anyone knows some info for me from the Mindcrime/
|> Livecrime CDs.	I was wondering if anyone out there knows who killed
|> Mary.  Was it Dr. X, was it Nikki, or was it a suicide.  I know that on the 
|> Video: Mindcrime the words suicide do occasionally pop up on the screen, but
|> I'm not sure.  Thanks		Michael @ Brandeis
  I've always assumed Mary killed herself.

-- 
Jeff Ehrhart
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: jfrey@mta.ca
Subject: RW: War I created.
Reply-To: jfrey@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:25:33 GMT



	Well, I think that Bon Jovi deserves to be here in
	alt.rock-n-roll.hard!!!!
From: bjorn@kih.no (bjorne malmanger)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: non postable bands
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:35:18 GMT
Organization: Kongsberg Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu wrote:
> I have just been doing some reading on alt.r-n-r.heavy and sone fuck requested
> info on Bon Jovi.  Anyway, he is being killed and tortured now, but I want
> to make sure that no other fucks try to put anythinh about Bon Jovi on this
> board, as someone on the heavy board suggested doing.
> If anyone disagrees with me, then tough shit for you.  Any Bon Jovi (or ant
> (actually any) other butfuck bands) postings will more than likly get you
> only enemies on this board (other readers, please support me).
> By the way, if you want to see the shit that was said, look for any 

I agree.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: LCLAYHILLS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Leif Clayhills Mate)
Subject: Info about bands ?
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:49:14 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hello folks,
I'd like to have any info about some bands I have listened to lately....
things like news/albums/etc. about em....
well vague enough ... ? :-)

ok here's the list !

                Elvis Hitler
                Mojo Nixon (& Skid Roper)
                Surf Punks
                The Devil Dogs

thanx in advance !

      later,
            Leif.

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From: esuln@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J S Murray)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: non postable bands BELONG HERE !
Date: 27 Jan 1993 13:05:47 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: poppy.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1993Jan27.103518.3958@ulrik.uio.no> bjorn@kih.no (bjorne malmanger) writes:
>st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu wrote:

>> to make sure that no other fucks try to put anythinh about Bon Jovi on this
>> board, as someone on the heavy board suggested doing.
>> If anyone disagrees with me, then tough shit for you.  Any Bon Jovi (or ant
>> (actually any) other butfuck bands) postings will more than likly get you
>> only enemies on this board (other readers, please support me).
>> By the way, if you want to see the shit that was said, look for any 
>
>I agree.


This newsgroup was specifically created for that type of band!!

BON JOVI belongs on this newsgroup (that's why I don't read it often)

jsm
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR)
Subject: Re: Bon Jovi guy
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:59:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.221919.8027@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>Hello: To the guy who is so caught up about Bon Jovi (st923559), who is
>to say that you are an expert about music? I happen to think you have
>terrible taste in music, but that's just my opinion. You might not like
>my music, but we *all* can't be fans of Mr. Big and FireHOSE like you
>are, can we? Get a life and stop worrying about a band like Bon Jovi.
>They might be hard, they might not be. Who are you to be judge and jury?
					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>My vote is don't put them here. Don't they have their own group already?
>Anyway, no need for flames, etc. These are just my couple of cents. Thanks
>for your time and space. Bye!

Any band that any number of people want to talk about deserves to be put
here.  "Who are you to be judge and jury?".


							-Don

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: LCLAYHILLS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Leif Clayhills Mate)
Subject: Friggin' in the Riggin'
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:41:07 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

If I don't remember wrong soo.. Anthrax covered it on a single and the
lyrix were to found atleast on the 12 Inch Vinyl version...then again they
may be a bit altered but not sure thought... I don't have it anymore borrowed
to a friend few yearz ago and don't have a clue where it's now.... oh well


Good luck to searching,
                        Leif


ps. it might be a good idea to check the lyrix site under Anthrax too...
    just in case :)

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Subject: Re: TASTE!
From: akazamer@husc8.harvard.edu (Annette=Kazmerski)
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:20:34 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1993Jan27.141259.21678@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> jfrey@mta.ca writes:
>
>	If you do not like a certain bands(s), and don't like their music
>that is fine.  When it comes to music, its all a matter of personal, and
>individual taste. Who cares if someone likes a band you don't!  Don't
>knock someone for such a stupid reason.  If you have a negative opinion
>fine, but understand everyones taste, differs!!
>
>				-Jay-
>

Congratulations...  it's nice to see someone being intelligent for a change.

I completely agree!

-Annette
-- 
<akazamer@husc.harvard.edu>  
"Rock n' roll has always been the devil's music."
				--David Bowie
From: ytsanyd@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: Motley Crue is dead
Date: 23 Jan 1993 04:39:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: ccwf.cc.utexas.edu



Personally I would not mind the Crue changing their name.
Don't rag on the singer till you have heard them. Basically
I am very dissapointed that Coriabi joined the Crue b/c
one of my favorite albums in the recent past is The Screams
_Let it Scream_. And No I did not rush out and buy it after I heard
he joined the Crue. I've had the album ever since I saw this band
in concert some time in '91. As for their sound it featured a couple
of guys from Racer X and Coriabi's voice is in the same vein as
Brian Johnson/Tom Keifer. I think if the Crue goes into a heavier
sound with blues influences it will very good since that is the background
of Coriabi.

As for the other members of Crue I was dissapointed how Tommy Lee,
supposedly Vince's best friend could turn on him. Nikki Sixx 
is the mastermind behind the Crue and though it may not be a great 
honor he can do what he wants all though the quote mentioned about
if anyone leaves has bothered me since Neil's departure.

As for Vince's album I have no clue what the sound will be like.
I expect this to follow the same pattern as Van Halen did 8 years
ago. The first album will be fairly strong then he will just
slowly fade. Steve Stevens guitarist for Billy Idol in the mid '80s 
is in the band is well as the former drummer of Enuff Z Nuff. It is
due the week of Feb. 13th, the anninversary of Vince Neils departure.

Until then we can only hope. The Crue's album is due in late Summer early Fall.

Not as big a Crue fan as you used to be but I still catch myself pulling
out their first 3 albums quite often.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: jfrey@mta.ca
Subject: non postable bands
Reply-To: jfrey@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:45:37 GMT


Like Kirst has said "what exactly do you count as non postable bands",
I happen to be equally curious!!!!!

 	-Jay