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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: British Imperial Weights and Measures
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:09:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Geraint Jones (Geraint.Jones@comlab.oxford.ac.uk) wrote:
> 
> It was Tomorrow's World, when it was Really Tomorrow's World, 
> with Admiral Raymond Grand Prix Baxter and his silk cravat.
> Is he still alive, does anyone know?  The last time I saw 
> a picture of him was when they held a nice round-numbered
> anniversary commemoration of the Dunkirk evacuation.

Raymond Baxter is still very much alive, or at least was when they made the
``This Is Your Life'' about John Surtees -- that was made at the annual
Autosport awards dinner in early Decmber...

Pete
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca (Adrian Pepper)
Subject: Re: Celsius <--> Fahrenheit (was Re: British Imperial...)
Organization: University of Waterloo Math Faculty Computing Facility, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:14:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.150442.8009@pixel.kodak.com> dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>RFD: a new temperature scale with Celsius sized degrees but based on 0=-20C.
>That way you get numbers that people can relate to when discussing weather.
>Most people probably can't sense a temperature difference of <1C anyway, so 
>the greater unit size compared to deg F is not a problem.
>
>And no, you don't have to name it after me.

Is that ever a silly idea.  What is wrong with negative numbers?
And, assuming you do not like them, what about when the temperature is
below -20C?  Like it used to be for days on end where I grew up.  At
least 0C is a useful place for negative numbers to begin.  Right about
where we used to begin thinking perhaps we should wear a jacket.  The
-40C == -40F equivalence is useful, too.

Adrian.
arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca
From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Channel Islands/Nazis
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:22:57 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.

hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:


>The BBC world Service had an item on the news yesterday (Thurs) about
>newspaper reports on material which had just come out on the cooperation
>between the local elite in Jersey and Guernsey in the Nazi roundup of JEws
>when the Channel Islands were occupied during WWII. Unfortunately, I only
>picked up the last 2/3 of the report, and I didn't catch the name of the
>newspaper which printed the story. Please would someone post more details.

I read the report in two of Tuesday's or Wednesdays papers.  They
said that only 1 of the 8 men in the ruling council objected to the 
names being handed over.  The top man was reported as telling the 
Germans he was happy to be able to help, and to do so quickly.

   The paper mentioned that in 1945 he was given a knighthood, but 
it did not say whether this was before or after the government found
out about his anti-Jewish activities.  It also mentioned that he was
in his 70's at the time and I think it also said he was easily 
intimidated.

    The UK government might had considered that it was justifiable
to cover up the story because he had only acted that way to protect
the 1000's of other citizens of the channel isles (17% of the men
fought in the UK army).  But on the other hand they did not have
to reward him.  

    I believe they awarded all the leaders of the different sections
of the RAF after the war, except for bomber Harris.  So they could
if they had wanted to, have done the same with the Channel Island 
leader. 


   The important thing about it is it shows what would probably 
happended in the UK to the British jews if Germany had won.
Maybe the British would have been like the Danes and have smuggled
virtually their entire Jewish population to a neutral country
(eg Ireland).
   Britain would probably have been more like France than Denmark,

>Richard Pennell History NUS
From: pt@curie.lif.icnet.uk (Paul Taylor <pt@acl.icnet.uk>)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Celsius <--> Fahrenheit (was Re: British Imperial...)
Date: 6 Jan 1993 11:40:39 -0000
Organization: Imperial Cancer Research Fund
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In article <C0FFqv.356@newcastle.ac.uk> Trevor.Kirby@newcastle.ac.uk (Trevor Kirby) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan5.144821.1@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu>, f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know how the Farenheit scale was developed and why it is such a
>>weird scale? I have heard that the 100F mark was supposed to be the tempera-
>>ture of blood (body temperature), only they got it wrong!! And 0F happened
>>to be the lowest temperature measured at that time (~freezing point of saline
>>water?!?).
>>
>The way I heard it is that it was his body temperature, he just happened to be
>running a fever at the time. The answer is probably in the urban legend FAQ.
>
> Trev

I heard that Zero F was the lowest temperature at the time, but I thought the
other fixed point was 180 F and this was boiling water or something.

They thought that 180 was a better range than 100 for much the same reason
that there are 12 pennies in a shilling. It has lots of factors.

Paul

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jlloyd@cc.uow.edu.au (Jonathan Lloyd)
Subject: "Market Pricing"
Summary: Europeans get ripped off
Keywords: Price differentials
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 03:07:01 GMT

OK. I've been following a general stream of postings to this group
the general theme of which is everything is cheaper in the USA and far
east than in the UK/Europe.

There are several reasons for this:

Variations in import tarriffs, sales taxes and VAT;

Unfavourable exchange rates used to maintain price stability;

and the last but not least the age old business adage:

"CHARGE WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR"

Basically speaking this is the main reason that CD's Levis Reeboks cars etc etc
are cheaper in the USA. Such variations are huge.

e.g. I paid $18 for Levi 501s in New York, (A$75 in Sydney during sales, 
or about 35pounds in UK)

Music is about 30% cheaper even at the current exchange rate.

Electronics and cameras the differences are even more outrageous.

This is called "MARKET PRICING". It is the principal reason that a VW costs
30-40% more (before taxes) in UK than in Belgium or Denmark.

The answer is folks:
YES YOU ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF.

Europe is a more profitable market for the multinationals than anywhere
else. The infrastructure and customs barriers are exploited by these large
groups as a means of getting better prices for their goods.

Computer software is one excellent example. Why should the same package cost
about 50% more in UK than in Australia??

Just my 10cents worth.

-Jonathan.

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From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Buying things cheaper in the USA
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1993Jan8.174939.16131@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> kelley@phecda (Sean Kelley) writes:
>morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay) writes:
>: find - a Kirby Vacuum cleaner.
>
>What's a "Kirby"?  

See above.

>
>How about a "Bravo" instead!
> 

What's a "Bravo"?
M

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	Thanksgiving For a National Victory (Robert Burns)
Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for murther.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: Happy Christmas!
Summary: Hebrew, Aramaic, what have you...
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:13:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.053538.2897@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.155048.10981@vax.oxford.ac.uk> wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>In article <1992Dec23.091338.1014@sei.cmu.edu>, firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) writes:
>>> 	Gloria in excelsis deo,
>>> 	et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis
>>Which is in turn a mistranslation of something in Greek which was once upon a
>>time a quotation in Hebrew.
>
>Raised eyebrows...Hebrew?  Thought the NT was originally written in Greek.

By "Hebrew" I think they mean "Aramaic" (a closely related language used as
the vernacular in Palestine in the time of Jesus).

The NT is in Greek, but the syntax of the Greek is strongly influenced by
Hebrew/Aramaic.

>Isn't there a verse (or verses) which demonstrate that Jesus was
>himself using the Septuagint as his OT reference?

The OT quotations in the NT routinely follow the Septuagint.  Not clear
whether Jesus himself did this, or whether the NT writers naturally rendered
Jesus' Aramaic teachings into Greek using familiar Septuagint Bible verses
wherever they came up.

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From: proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: degrees-grades
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:21:28 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

At Oxford it is somewhere close to 10% firsts
                                   80% seconds
                                   10% thirds
                                 .. with a very few "pass" degrees and
a very few "fail"s.

Paul


In article <1993Jan8.115936.19464@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>In article <C0I6nH.HvD@ccu.umanitoba.ca> etaylor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Euan R. Taylor) writes:
>>Hi netters, I'm trying to find out what % of students at UK universities
>>get 1st class, upper second, lower second, and third class degrees, so I
>>can see how it compares with the grade point system used in the US and
>>canada.
>>In particular I want to know the percentages getting the different grades
>>at Univ. of Cambridge.
>>
>Fishing out the minutes of last year's meeting of the Computer
>Science sub-board at Queen Mary and Westfield College, I see we
>awarded 9 Firsts, 22 upper seconds, 23 lower seconds, 6 thirds
>and 5 pass degrees. This is about average for us, maybe a
>little on the generous side.
>
>Degree classes are supposed to be standard over the country, so
>you'd expect a top-ranked place like Cambridge to award
>proportionately more firsts, while lower ranked places like the
>ex-polytechnics would aard fewer.
>
>Matthew Huntbach
From: muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: Coming Soon :  Malaria......
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:37:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <19509.2b4b0f82@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>	According to a news  report, Sri lanka,  Nepal, Philippines and 
>Thailand are four Asian countries where malaria is in the rise. "Health
>Care in Asia", a publication of the World Bank said that in South Asia,
>where Sri Lanka belongs to, 96 percent of the population is at risk  of
>contracting malaria while in  East Asia only 28 percent  are at limited
>risk.  The report further said: Malaria was the  main health problem in
>Sri Lanka  half  a century ago, but the  endemic  was later  eliminated
>through intensive preventive campaigns, but health authorities here are
>concerned that the disease is raising its head once again.
>
>	"...Good, good, we can get more aid from International agencies
>now and put that in the war," said a friend after reading this!
>Vicky:
>UMass, Jan 06


What about getting more doctors from Pakistan ?  There aren't too many
patriotic doctors from SL around anymore you know.  The next would be 
importing house maids from the Middle East countries ad nauseam ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: nalin@athena.mit.edu (Palitha Nalin Wikramanayake)
Subject: Anonymous Postings - Good or Bad? was Re: Hacked to Death......?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:52:23 GMT

	Oh, Oh - just when gmuvax, mitre etc. have become a thing of the past
	thanks to my faithful KILL file here comes this anonymous thing. The
	problem is that if I kill the @anon address I might miss some legitimate
	anonymous posting.

	So .... a question

	Is it OK to post anonymously to this group - I mean is there a 
	legitimate reason to do so? What do people think? I am in favour
	of people signing their postings and lean towards killing the
	entire anonymous thing (at least in this group).

	Nalin




In article <1993Jan12.202732.22893@fuug.fi>, an4465@anon.penet.fi writes:
|> 
|> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu you are fine person.  When tiger kill a sinhalese or
|> Muslim or Tamil with axe you say that is better than when army kill people ?
|> why not say that when also tigers kill people by hack ???
|> 
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From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sri Lanka thumps its nose at India....?
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:54:19 GMT
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL

vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:

>	Independence  from Britain, obtained in 1947, by no means put an
>end to  submissiveness, in  Mr. Vijay's view.  India's post-independence
>rulers, PrimeMinister Jawaharlal Nehru in particular, were too enchanted
>by the developed world, he says, adopting a  socialist, state-controlled
>economy highly in vogue in Nehru's time and closely following the British
>model for India's judicial system.

Russia after which the Nehruvian economy was patterned was hardly part of 
the developed world.  And Nehru's socialist ideas were hardly in vogue 
outside Oxford and Cambridge.

>	Bharat Wariavwalla, a historian at the  Center for the  Study of
>Developing  Societies (CSDS) in  old Delhi, explains  this dynamic: "You
>are bullied by Americans and Europeans into signing the NPT",a reference
>to the  Nuclear Non-Proliferation  Treaty, which  India  refuses to sign,
>insisting on a global disarmament agreement. "The Chinese are in the big
>league and you're not. No one consults you on the Middle East. Sri Lanka
>thumbs  its nose at us; we had  to retreat from  Sri Lanka.  Does anyone
>take us seriously?"

Somehow find it hard to take seriously the idea that the saffron-clad
kar-sevaks at Ayodhya were such avid readers of India Today, and such
diligent students of international affairs as to be congnizant of
international perceptions of India, and furthermore to give a damn 
about it.

What worries me more is the article in today's WSJ comparing India and
China from an international investor's point of view.  And pointing out
very clearly why ideology is irrelevant to such a person.

Sanjoy Ghosh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: "SEASONS" - Dance Show in Minneapolis
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: mn
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:52:41 GMT



		Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
		~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~ 
			presents


		   " S E A S O N S "
		   * * * * * * * * *

		 The seasons of India
		  interpreted through
	       classical and folk dances

		       Performers :

	Rita Mitra Mustaphi and students (Kathak)
	Rani and Aparna Ramaswamy (Bharata Natyam)
	Sohini Ray (from New York, Manipuri)
	Gujarati Group (Gujarati Folk Dances)
	Ethnic Dance Theater of MN (Folk Dances)

	Mala Ganguly (from LA, Vocal)
	David Whetstone (Sitar)
	Prabhas Moghe (Sitar)
	Allalaghatta Pavan (Tabla)
	Suresh (from Cincinatti, Mridangam)

When  : Saturday, Jan. 16, 1993 (2:00 p.m and 7:30 p.m)
Where : St. Paul Student Center, 2017 Buford Ave., St. Paul, MN, 55108
Tickets : General Admission $ 9.00
	  Advance (before Jan 15), Students, Seniors and Members of Minnesota
	  Dance Alliance and India Club of India - $ 7.00
Info  : Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
	(612)894-8795
	(612)537-8291
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From: sumane@grapes.Stanford.EDU (Thilaka Sumanaweera)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Tax Treaty: YES!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:57:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grapes.stanford.edu

Hi all,

According to Mr. Wijetunge, the Economic Minister of the Sri Lankan 
Embassy in Washington DC, Sri Lanka has entered into a tax treaty 
(and also an intellectual property treaty) with the US government 
just last year. So, people can declare this in their tax returns.

Please direct furthur enquiries to the Sri Lankan Embassy 
(Tel:(202)483-4025)---not to me!.

Thilaka


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Thilaka Sumanaweera
Stanford University School of Medicine
Department of Radiology


Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: an4465@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: Hacked to Death......?
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:16:25 GMT


vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu you are fine person.  When tiger kill a sinhalese or
Muslim or Tamil with axe you say that is better than when army kill people ?
why not say that when also tigers kill people by hack ???

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From: nanda@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: We might not have to pay taxes??
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:43:16 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Sorry about the previous posting, 

I would like some info on the new tax treaty that SL has with
the US.  Has anyone heard about this?

Thanx in adv,
(pls rply to praba@research.rgsps.ukans.edu)
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Coming Soon :  Malaria......
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:57:38 GMT

	According to a news  report, Sri lanka,  Nepal, Philippines and 
Thailand are four Asian countries where malaria is in the rise. "Health
Care in Asia", a publication of the World Bank said that in South Asia,
where Sri Lanka belongs to, 96 percent of the population is at risk  of
contracting malaria while in  East Asia only 28 percent  are at limited
risk.  The report further said: Malaria was the  main health problem in
Sri Lanka  half  a century ago, but the  endemic  was later  eliminated
through intensive preventive campaigns, but health authorities here are
concerned that the disease is raising its head once again.

	"...Good, good, we can get more aid from International agencies
now and put that in the war," said a friend after reading this!


Vicky:
UMass, Jan 06
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From: sumane@grapes.Stanford.EDU (Thilaka Sumanaweera)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Carrection: Tax Treaty: YES!; Ratified: NO!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 20:57:07 GMT
Organization: Stanford University Computer Science Department
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grapes.stanford.edu

Hi agian,

According to Mr. Ariyaratne, the commerce minister of the
Sri Lankan Embassy, the tax treaty Sri Lanka and the US
signed has not been ratified yet.

This means that we cannot use tax treaty in our tax forms
Yet. Mr. Ariyaratne did not know when it will be ratified.

In my earilier posting, I implied that you can mention the
tax treaty in the tax forms. I was merely posting the summary of
my conversation with Mr. Wijetunga, the Finance minister. 
Mr. Ariyaratne was out for lunch at the time.

Sorry if I created any inconvenience.

Thilaka
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Thilaka Sumanaweera
Stanford University School of Medicine
Department of Radiology

Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: an4465@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: Hey we can do it too
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:37:50 GMT


an5089@anon.penet.fi:
	>Hey we know who you are.Stop posting anonymousl

I'm George Bush.  You must be J. Herath. 

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