From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: DOS 6 Beta Looks for OS/2!!!!!!!!
Date: 03 Jan 93 00:05:49 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1993Jan2.024108.2313@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan02.025323.15888@microsoft.com>, philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan1.133731.2312@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>>>
>>>	All this talk about FUD & Misinformation about OS/2 from Microsoft has
>>>some NEW Merit!
>>>
>>>	I Recently talked to a Beta Tester of DOS 6.0. He Runs OS/2 with 2 Hard
>>>Drives, One FAT, One HPFS. He decided to Install the DOS 6.0 Beta on the FAT
>>>Partition, and got a Message saying, and I paraphrase: 
>>>
>>>- OS/2 Detected! Due to the size of OS/2 you may wish to delete your OS/2 
>>>files before installing DOS 6.0 -
>> 
>>      Interesting.  What is the problem with that?  If there was a
>> similar message that said "Autocad detected.  Due to the size of
>> Autocad you may wish to delete your Autocad files before installing
>> DOS 6.0", whould that be bad too?
>> 
>	The Problem is simple. There is no need for such a message. If there
>was insufficient disk space, a simple "Insufficient Disk Space" would be
>enough. Unless of course you wanted to to spread FUD 

    Point A:  We have no idea what the actual message is.  I'll wager
that it _isn't_ what was quote above (in fact, you admit that it's
"paraphrased" _and_ secondhand.).  There are several good reasons why
you wouldn't want to run the DOS 6 Beta (and note, it is a beta) and
OS/2 on the same machine.


>F-Fear- Fear that Using OS/2 and DOS on the same machine would be dangerous.

    It is.  DOS 6 may make your FAT partitions unreadable by
OS/2 or other operating systems.


>Uncertainty - Make the User uncertain about using DOS and OS/2 at the same
>time.

   As well they should be.  It is a beta product, after all.


>Doubt - Make the User Doubt OS/2, after all OS/2 didn't even say that there
>might be a problem, but DOS is so great that it warns a user of 
>impending danger.

    This is a bit ludicrous, don't you think?


>>>So The next time I hear a Micro$oftie say "IT's IBM spreading FUD not us"  The
>>>DOS 6.0 Beta will immediately come to mind! It's Simply BULLS**T!!!!
>> 
>>      Why?  The DOS 6 beta work with OS/2 installed, doesn't it?
>
> 
>	Yes Why???? Why even have such a message at all????
>	ANSWER: FUD

    Answer:  There are possible incompatibilities between DOS 6
and OS/2.  This is not FUD - it's a simple fact.


>>>This is intollerable! All of the Posts claiming "Why punish someone for being
>>>successful?", have no ground in light of this blatent attempt to halt advancement
>>>of technology!!
>> 
>>     Please explain why a warning message is a "blatent [sic] attempt
>> to halt advancement of technology".
>> 
>	OS/2 is technologically more advanced than DOS/Windoze. So Try to
>Scare the User ( read FUD above again ) until MS has something as good as OS/2,
>then say "Oh, you don't want that old DOG 6.0a ( 'a' version fixed numerous
>bugs that caused competitors apps not to run, oops. sorry Lotus & Borland )

     Interesting theory.  Here's a real question for you:  Can
the truth also be FUD?


>>>Microsoft is doing what it does best, Trying (Lying) to Users of products of a
>>>competitor!
>> 
>>     What is the lie?
>
>	Get a clue Phil. The above message is an obvious LIE! There was plenty
>of room on the drive where the Beta was being installed. OS/2 wasn't on  it!
>That is the LIE!

    Let's assume that the message was exactly as it was quoted.  In
this case, the message didn't say that you had insufficient disk
space and it didn't tell you to remove OS/2.  It said that OS/2
takes a lot of disk space - this is true.
    Does anyone have the _real_ message?  I suspect that it says
nothing like what's written above.

				-Phil

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