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From:         "PROFESSOR M. BITETTO" <MBITETTO@SNYESCVA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Very interesting software f/t visually handicapped.....

                           C.A.S.E.B.


                         What is CASEB?

                        What does it do?

                  What hardware will it run on?

              What operating systems does it run on?

                     How much does it cost?



                          TECHNOLOGY

     CASEB (Computer Aided Search and Electronic Book) is a
hybrid database and electronic book rolled in one. That is, you
can search for the reading matter on the topic of interest and
afterwards view those articles through the same program. Just
like a physical book, the electronic book can be viewed in a
page by page, or, chapter by chapter fashion (you view virtual
pages and can jump to any virtual page desired).


                        ACCESSIBILITY

     Even more amazing, this technology allows you to view
entire lists of articles in any order desired and since all
the information is in generic electronic form, it can quickly and
easily be viewed by visually impaired persons (comes with
adaptive technology interfaces that allow it to be fully
compliant with both 504 and Americans with Disabilities
Act regulations).


                        COMPATIBILITY

     In terms of hardware compatibility, CASEB will function on
almost any computer system and with almost any operating system
(the adaptive device drivers will only work with externally
attached speech and braille printers that use serial, parallel
and S C S I ports).


                        AFFORDABILITY

    However, the most amazing thing about this program is its
price. It only cost 15 U.S. dollars per copy (only within the
continental U.S. and only for generic diskette format on 5.25"
media). The user support licenses are only 25 U.S. dollars per
year (only within the continental U.S. and only by cassette
tape).






     For machines other than I.B.M. P C compatibles, a porting
fee is involved. For more information about porting fees or
training seminars, call (718)278-8191.

                     INFORMATION INK, LTD.
                     2542 49 Street
                     Long Island City, N.Y. 11103
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From:         "A.J. Wright" <MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Distribution of Electronic Journals

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In reading the recent messages about gobs of efiles piling up and how will
such survive, etc., a minor vision of the future poppped into my head. Some-
thing similar has occurred with early motion pictures, esp. from the silent
era. Nobody cared to preserve the stuff, so what has survived from that
era owes much to chance and a few packrats or lucky stashes around the world.
(As an aside, I remember reading in the last couple of years about a group of
silent films found somewhere in Alaska where the cold had preserved them for
decades; some of the titles were presumed lost.) Thousands of silent-era titles
are gone forever. Will this happen with all of the e-info we're creating now?
And fifty years or more in the future people will discover these files as
they clean out virtual basements, closets, attics, etc?

Well, that's the extent of my thinking for today...

A.J. Wright
Anesthesiology Library
University of Alabama at Birmingham
meds002@uabdpo
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From:         Joseph Raben <JQRQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Apple Library's Network Citizen Awards for 1992

It's very nice that you are publicizing the public-service activities of
the four librarians, but why not give either their userid's or listserv
addresses so that we can subscribe to their lists?
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From:         Howard Pasternack <BLIPS15@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Distribution of Electronic Journals

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

>I support Ann Okerson's views on how e-journals (and other e-publications) will
>be used:  from the/a source, not stored locally.  The implications are for
>user-friendly access tools, standards of descriptions and access, safeguards
>for preserving the information in its original form, and organized means of
>collocating like materials.
>
>Does any of this sound familiar?
>
>--Peter Graham (Hint:  I'm a librarian)

 Yes.  It sounds a lot like the new service promised from Faxon.
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From:         "JUDITH HOPKINS AT SUNY BUFFALO" <ULCJH@UBVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Distribution of Electronic Journals

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am a packrat with both paper (as anyone who has ever seen my office can
testify) and electronically.   The natural result is that I have difficulty
remembering in what file (paper or electronic) I placed that "useful" item.
So I spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find it, or give up and
start from scratch in obtaining it again.    The problem with the latter
approach (which would also occur if I did not archive anything electronically
and had to re-retrieve items from the original source when I needed them)
is how do I remember where that useful item came from?  Often I came upon
it originally via the electronic equivalent of serendipitous browsing the
current periodical shelves, i.e., someone posted a notice of an interesting-
sounding item on some list, I retrieved it immediately from the instructions
which were at hand, and either tossed it or filed it.   If I toss it, how
do I remember where I got it when some need turns up six months later?

========================================================================
Judith Hopkins                            VOICE: (716) 645-2796
Technical Services Research and Analysis Officer
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From:         James Powell <JPOWELL@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Distribution of Electronic Journals

One alternative is for publishers to make electronic journals searchable via
WAIS.  Libraries retrieve a WAIS source file which tell the WAIS client where
the data and indexes for a journal reside.  No further effort is required to
"receive" an issue since you are actually searching a remote database that
should be reindexed as new issues are added.  Of course, you really cannot
browse issues, nor is it obvious that a new issue has been added.  This is not
always acceptable.  We are facing a situation similar to yours - we will soon
be posting daily issues of an electronic newsletter on a gopher system.  I
am not sure what we are going to do with it.  We have installed some sample
issues as both a WAIS source and a collection of menu selections.  What we
will probably do is make new issues available for searching with WAIS daily,
(stick them in the appropriate directory and reindex) and actually add them to
the browsing menu once a week or something.  Both activities would be as
automatic as possible, using C shell scripts in crontab.

James Powell >>> Systems Support and Development, University Libraries, VPI&SU
             >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU                                   O+>
             >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
             >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
My question is really not about the specifics of the situation.  But I
am curious about how people see electronic journals being distributed
in the future to institutional subscribers.  What types of mechanisms
need to be developed to handle these materials efficiently. Or do we
even see the need for local distribution and are we really envisioning
dialing in to a central commercial site.

Howard Pasternack
Brown University
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From:         Gerald=Ruderman%HQ%Rational@Vines1.ratsys.com
Subject:      re: Distribution of Electronic Journals

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In reply to: Sun, 13 Sep 92 22:03:55 EDT
From: James O'Donnell <uunet!PENNSAS.UPENN.EDU!JODONNEL>

>Scholars have already invented this way of dealing with journal articles: see
>something you like, Xerox it, stick it in a file drawer, and then forget you
>have it. I photocopied an article the other day and then driving home began to
>wonder to myself if I hadn't perahps already got a Xerox of that from about
>two years ago. Two days later, I haven't checked and I haven't read more than
>two pages of the forty I copied. Our e-lives will get more and more like that.

I think this has more to do with a feeling of power from having the knowledge,
more than the need to have the information handy. (I suffer this too.)
Something akin to the cave paintings of early people: They drew the animals
they hunted as a way of having power over the animals.

Gerald Ruderman (geraldr@ratsys.com)
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From:         David Robison <drobison@LIBRARY.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Apple Library's Network Citizen Awards for 1992

******************
It's very nice that you are publicizing the public-service activities of
the four librarians, but why not give either their userid's or listserv
addresses so that we can subscribe to their lists?
******************

Current Cites is available by sending e-mail to me requesting
a subscription.

Thanks for your interest,

David F.W. Robison                   Internet: drobison@library.berkeley.edu
Editor, Current Cites                  Bitnet: drobison@ucblibra
Library Technology Watch Program        Voice: (510)642-7600
UC Berkeley Library                       Fax: (510)643-7891
Berkeley, CA 94720
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From: mmanoff@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      WAIS & electronic journals
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(cross-posted to PACS-L & VPIEJ-L)

The MIT Libraries are currently exploring WAIS as a platform for
accessing and searching electronic journals. We would be interested in
hearing from any other libraries using WAIS for this purpose. Please
respond directly to me. Thank you
         Marlene Manoff, MIT Libraries
         email: mmanoff@athena.mit.edu
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From:         Howard Pasternack <BLIPS15@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Distribution of Electronic Journals

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

How useful is a WAIS server with heavily marked up text, such as a document
produced in SGML or TeX ?

And what will happen when documents are distributed which require proprietary
programs in order to interpret them ?
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From:         "Brett G. Person" <NU079509@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
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              14 Sep 1992 09:53:03 EDT from
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
on 14 Sep 1992 09:53:03 EDT <Gerald=Ruderman%HQ%Rational@Vines1.ratsys.com>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>In reply to: Sun, 13 Sep 92 22:03:55 EDT
>From: James O'Donnell <uunet!PENNSAS.UPENN.EDU!JODONNEL>
>
>>Scholars have already invented this way of dealing with journal articles: see
>>something you like, Xerox it, stick it in a file drawer, and then forget you
>>have it. I photocopied an article the other day and then driving home began to
>>wonder to myself if I hadn't perahps already got a Xerox of that from about
>>two years ago. Two days later, I haven't checked and I haven't read more than
>>two pages of the forty I copied. Our e-lives will get more and more like that.
>
>I think this has more to do with a feeling of power from having the knowledge,
>more than the need to have the information handy. (I suffer this too.)
>Something akin to the cave paintings of early people: They drew the animals
>they hunted as a way of having power over the animals.
>
>Gerald Ruderman (geraldr@ratsys.com)
No, it's because we are all pack-rats.  We all beleive that what we do
is important enough to keep forever.  Even when we shouldn't be
bothering to look at the junk!  Most of the journals I read amount to
little more than junk mail most of the time anyway.  I still advocate
for a set of sites where people can pull just the articles they need and
junk the rest.
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(cross-posted to PACS-L & VPIEJ-L)

The MIT Libraries are currently exploring WAIS as a platform for
accessing and searching electronic journals. We would be interested in
hearing from any other libraries using WAIS for this purpose. Please
respond directly to me. Thank you
         Marlene Manoff, MIT Libraries
         email: mmanoff@athena.mit.edu
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From:         Howard Pasternack <BLIPS15@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Distribution of Electronic Journals

I've been working with our serials department on setting up procedures
for handling several electronic journals, and one of the comments made
by the serials staff is that processing e-journals is considerably
more labor intensive than processing traditional print publications.
The journals in question are currently distributed as Bitnet text files
via a listserv.  Transferring the text from the e-mail subscription
account to a fileserver or cwis is currently far from elegant.

My question is really not about the specifics of the situation.  But I
am curious about how people see electronic journals being distributed
in the future to institutional subscribers.  What types of mechanisms
need to be developed to handle these materials efficiently. Or do we
even see the need for local distribution and are we really envisioning
dialing in to a central commercial site.

Howard Pasternack
Brown University
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              14 Sep 1992 09:53:03 EDT from
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>little more than junk mail most of the time anyway.  I still advocate
>for a set of sites where people can pull just the articles they need and
>junk the rest.

This is what we are trying to do at Va. Tech.  We have one location for our
locally published journals, and any others we agree to archive.  We then try*
to make them available several ways - all of which provide access to the
individual articles.  Articles may be FTP'd, or accessed via WAIS.  A search
in the WAIS directory-of-servers will return sources for each journal.  To
provide some semblance of bibliographic access to the journals, the WAIS
sources include card screens from our local OPAC.  We would like to provide
additional access with a gopher server.  Gopher would allow electronic
publishers to link their servers with others, which would provide menu driven
access to local and remote journals from a single menu.  Add WAIS sources for
each journal and you have browse and search capability from this single menu.
Information providers can then add a server designated as the home or root
server and access all the journals published within this distributed server
system.
____________________
* Indexing PostScript files with WAIS yields a pretty useless source.

James Powell >>> Systems Support and Development, University Libraries, VPI&SU
             >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU                                   O+>
             >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
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From:         Carol Meyer <CAROLM@ACMVM.BITNET>
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OK, I'll ask Craig to subscribe.  By the way, do you know if he can
subscribe from his Sun id, or do we have to get him a bitnet address?

-Carol
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:53:04 MDT
From:         USERLLEA@UALTAMTS.BITNET

I am writing a proposal to have Medline and the other Medline like files
such as CINAHL, HealthPlan and Toxline available as locally mounted databases.
We hope to run this system on the same computer that our new Integrated Library
system will run on.  One of the possibilities is for running the system on
a VAX/VM machine.  I understand that BRS Search will run on this hardware.
Does anyone know of another good search engine that runs on VAX (I.E. good
for Medline files)? Also is anyone running an installation of BRS Search for
Medline file searching for public use.  I need to know how user friendly
such an installation would be; that it is able to use the full capability
of the Medline files,  The costs of setting up and maintaing this kind of
installation  and the cost for the files.  Please reply to me and if I
recieve requests I can summarize to the lists.  ALso please include your
phone number if you would be willing to be a resource person about your
installation.
Thanks for your help

Lea Starr
Reference Services Coordinator
John W. Scott Health Sciences Library
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
403-492-7946
userllea@mts.ucs.ulaberta.ca
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Please add me to your list:  LISAB@library.tmc.edu (INTERNET)
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From:         STODDARD@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Workshop/Job postings

When posting regional materials, it would be useful to me if the
state was put in the subject line.  I believe such postings are one
of the most valuable items offered by MEDLIB, but, like many
readers, I get LOTS of e-mail.  Knowing that a workshop or job is in
Oregon or Florida before I look at two (or seven) screen would be
appreciated.
                                Thanks!

            MJ Stoddard         Stoddard@ccit.arizona.edu
                   Arizona Health Sciences Library
                        University of Arizona
            602/626-2925 (voice)       602/626-2831 (fax)
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