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From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: Interesting viewing in downtown sydney
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:14:26 GMT

moorerr@msu.edu (richard r. moore) writes:
>Did it really happen?

Yes. I managed to see the end of the "showing". I was walking through
the city on my way home from work and saw a large crowd gathered on
the footpath outside a cinema. I thought some sort of premiere was
being shown and all the people were waiting for some "celeb." to show
up. Then I saw the police and their trucks. "Hmm. Maybe someone is
trying to throw themselves off a building". Upon crossing the road I
soon learned the truth...I had to laugh!.
-- 
Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)		"int - God's own type"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: esc149u@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Dr SJD Cox)
Subject: Re: Turkish/Greek/Macedonian thread
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:35:52 GMT


Although I seem to recall that this thread had some connection with 
an Australian publication at a much earlier stage, it now seems 
to have moved a long way away.  From the cross-posting details it 
also looks like some of the material is spilling over from other 
more appropriate newsgroups.  For the sake of those who want to 
get back to s.c.a could the thread now resume its natural place, 
where those who are interested can follow it.  The rest of us 
have probably had enough by now.  

Thanks
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From: davidm@voltaire.Rational.COM (David Moore)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:44:30 GMT

dmiller@elli.une.edu.au (David Miller) writes:


>In "soc.culture.australian", sjk@ut-emx wrote:-
>>I'll be going to Australia in September on business, and would like
>>to take a few days off to see (and snorkel) the Great Barrier Reef.
>>It looks like Cairns is the best place to start from.  If so, can
>>anyone give me some rough travel costs from Syndey by plane, bus
>>and rail?  If not, any other advice on how to see the Reef?

QANTAS flies out of Cairns to Hawaii. Presumably it also flies to 
other ports out of Cairns (Almost certainly Tokyo, don't know about
Singapore)

There is a good chance you can fly into Sydney, and take Cairns as a
"stop over" on the way home, rather than having to return to Sydney
again. This should save some time (Cairns-Sydney takes two-two and a half
hours non-stop and you may find youself stopping in Brisbane)
and may save money.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: Jon.Biddell@unsw.edu.au (Jon Biddell)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Organization: University of NSW
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:37:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.222435.20178@unixg.ubc.ca> kothav@jaeger.geog.ubc.ca (Zavareh Kothavala) writes:
>From: kothav@jaeger.geog.ubc.ca (Zavareh Kothavala)
>Subject: Cordless phone in Oz
>Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 22:24:35 GMT

>There is a possibility of me doing a year-abroad program in Australia
>and would prefer to use my (cordless) telephone rather than rent one
>there.

>I was told that the phone jacks in Australia are different from the 
>modular (snap-in) jacks used in the US and Canada.  

>Does anyone have any experience in this matter.  Would I be
>able to get the necessary adaptors or would I have to splice
>the telephone cable. 


THe current system users what they call a '601' connector, which is vastly 
different from the RJ11's that you use, but Tandy (Radio Slack) sell 
adapters, etc. I have a couply of US made phones that work quite well here..

Jon



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: ianh@nmpd.oz.au (Ian Holland)
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Reply-To: ianh@nmpd.oz.au
Organization: NMPD Telecom
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:46:41 GMT

farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell) writes:

>In <129@elli.une.edu.au> dmiller@elli.une.edu.au (David Miller) writes:

    .
    .
    .

>>Rail service is not available, as far as I know, as the train line now
>>terminates somewhere North of Brisbane.  I'm sure someone will pipe
>>up if I'm wrong.  

>  I can't rememember how far it goes! Certainly Townsville, possibly Cairns.
>Yes, you're right, somewhere North of Brisbane :-).

The (or is that "A") train runs to Cairns.  You will have to change
trains at Brisbane.

--

- ian...

Ian Holland. NMPD, Telecom. % Ph:  +61 7 837 5075 % Explicit hoc totum,
E-Mail: ianh@nmpd.oz.au     % Fax: +61 7 837 5253 % Pro Christo da mihi potum!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:00:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.222435.20178@unixg.ubc.ca>
    kothav@jaeger.geog.ubc.ca (Zavareh Kothavala) writes:

>There is a possibility of me doing a year-abroad program in Australia
>and would prefer to use my (cordless) telephone rather than rent one
>there.

There is no possibility whatsoever that you can use your own cordless phone.
They are prohibited imports, and will be seized by Customs.

>I was told that the phone jacks in Australia are different from the 
>modular (snap-in) jacks used in the US and Canada.  

Indeed they are, but that is not the problem.  Cordless phones use
different frequencies around the world, and yours may just happen to
tromp over some emergency frequency in use here.  Oh, and the power
requirements are different (240v vs. 110v), as are the plugs themselves.

>Does anyone have any experience in this matter.  Would I be
>able to get the necessary adaptors or would I have to splice
>the telephone cable. 

Don't even consider bringing in your own.  It will be seized if seen.
If you are caught, well, the inside of a jail is not the best place
to spend your trip, unless you prefer to be relieved of up to $10,000 (AUS)
instead...

>Thanks in advance

Don't mention it.  When is someone going to compile a FAQ list?

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: huumala@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Life in Aus
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 08:31:54 GMT

> One major shock you Yanks get is the price of petrol/gas.  It's about 70 
> cents/litre (approx.  A$3.15/gallon) here in Melbourne at the moment.

You are right it is a shock to this Yank.  Bensin/Petrol/Gas is CHEAP over
there compared to here in Finland.  I pay $1.25 AUD per liter here. :-)
(And that is the cheapest it has been in a long time.)

Dean
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Peter Jeremy - where are you?
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:52:20 GMT

Sigh - I know one is not supposed to do this, but ...

Peter - if you're reading this newsgrope (I think you do), give me
an e-mail address that works, will ya?  The clowns-that-be have
broken your usual one...  Some stupid un-matched " or something...

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:00:07 GMT

In article <chris.713700668@suite.sw.oz.au>
    chris@suite.sw.oz.au (Chris Maltby) writes:

>The rationale for this bizarre state of affairs is that the radio
>frequence spectrum is allocated differently in Australia and that
>you phoone may interfere with devices such as remote control blasting
>controllers (or whatever). It's bogus.

It's also true.  There is no international standard for cordless phones
(they are purely local, remember) hence manufacturer X has no reason to
comply with country Y's frequency allocation.  There was a case some years
ago of some high-power unit (imported, of course, with a claimed range of
several miles!!!) walking all over the local Bush-fire Brigade's channel.
And since they used different modulation methods (AM/FM/SSB - I forget)
they couldn't even "hear" each other...

Of course, it is _not_ true that it could detonate remote blasters.
Those things have heaps of interlocks on them.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
From: ginger@hydrus.trl.OZ.AU (Jeremy Ginger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:23:08 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia


Article: 6013 of soc.culture.australian
From: dmiller@elli.une.edu.au (David Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:11:48 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)


In "soc.culture.australian", sjk@ut-emx wrote:-
>I'll be going to Australia in September on business, and would like
>to take a few days off to see (and snorkel) the Great Barrier Reef.
>It looks like Cairns is the best place to start from.  If so, can
>anyone give me some rough travel costs from Syndey by plane, bus
>and rail?  If not, any other advice on how to see the Reef?

Congratulations on your fine taste.  Northern Queensland has got to be
one of the most beautiful places on this planet.

Cairns is the largest town that far North, but IMO it's a bit of a
sleazy dump with mud flats as beaches.  You may find Townsville and
Port Douglas nicer.  

Nonetheless, restricted airfare (e.g. non-refundable, non-changeable, etc.)
should cost you something AROUND A$350 return.  ($A1.00 = US$0.73).
However...you may find you can score a 30 percent discount if you
purchase your ticket in the States, before you leave!

Rail service is not available, as far as I know, as the train line now
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\/\/\
terminates somewhere North of Brisbane.  I'm sure someone will pipe
up if I'm wrong.  Re bus service -- have no idea on cost, but would _not_
recommend it, as the distance is quite substantial (say, three days 
in a car).

Enjoy your trip --

Best regards
-- 
David M Miller                   "Just because they're yelling at you
PO Box 695                       doesn't mean you are wrong".
Hornsby NSW 2077, Australia      --  Ritchie Garcia, baseball umpire
Internet: dmiller@elli.une.edu.au / C$: 100032,341 / GE: D.MILLER3@GENIE


*****************************************************
Trains do operate between Brisbane and Cairns
(at least they did three years ago).
***********************************************************************
Jeremy Ginger                              Internet: j.ginger@trl.oz.au
Telecommunications Research Laboratories of AOTC    Tel: +61 3 253 6638
P.O.BOX 249, Clayton, Victoria 3168, Australia.     Fax: +61 3 253 6144
From: dmiller@elli.une.edu.au (David Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:11:48 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)


In "soc.culture.australian", sjk@ut-emx wrote:-
>I'll be going to Australia in September on business, and would like
>to take a few days off to see (and snorkel) the Great Barrier Reef.
>It looks like Cairns is the best place to start from.  If so, can
>anyone give me some rough travel costs from Syndey by plane, bus
>and rail?  If not, any other advice on how to see the Reef?

Congratulations on your fine taste.  Northern Queensland has got to be
one of the most beautiful places on this planet.

Cairns is the largest town that far North, but IMO it's a bit of a
sleazy dump with mud flats as beaches.  You may find Townsville and
Port Douglas nicer.  

Nonetheless, restricted airfare (e.g. non-refundable, non-changeable, etc.)
should cost you something AROUND A$350 return.  ($A1.00 = US$0.73).
However...you may find you can score a 30 percent discount if you
purchase your ticket in the States, before you leave!

Rail service is not available, as far as I know, as the train line now
terminates somewhere North of Brisbane.  I'm sure someone will pipe
up if I'm wrong.  Re bus service -- have no idea on cost, but would _not_
recommend it, as the distance is quite substantial (say, three days 
in a car).

Enjoy your trip --

Best regards
-- 
David M Miller                   "Just because they're yelling at you
PO Box 695                       doesn't mean you are wrong".
Hornsby NSW 2077, Australia      --  Ritchie Garcia, baseball umpire
Internet: dmiller@elli.une.edu.au / C$: 100032,341 / GE: D.MILLER3@GENIE
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Australia??
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:53:05 GMT

ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:

>	BTW, can anyone tell me why the Aussie buck has dropped this week?
>Combined with the drop in the $US, it's now down to SFr0.95 compared to 1.17
>a short while ago.

Lots of reasons. The two most important ones are:

(1) Interest rates in Oz have dropped a lot lately, thus turning the Oz
dollar from a high-yielding to a relatively low-yielding currency.

(2) People are waiting to see how big a deficit Keating and Dawkins are
going to introduce in the budget. 

cheers,


--
Mark Williams         The University of Queensland       miw@cc.uq.edu.au
+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit.  -- Seneca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Mar Siew Cheong)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Australia??
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:44:55 GMT

I'm curious after looking thru' the costs comparison to find 
that a month's bus pass is cheaper in Finland than in Oz, given
the higher fares for a trip.     

Is it due to less Finns using the bus system?  
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From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: How did Australia and New Zealand Decimalise?
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:48:02 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
In-reply-to: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk's message of 9 Aug 92 11:39:12 GMT

In article <BspsDD.GoD@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:

       In Australia and New Zealand was decimalisation done by messing
   about with the value of the currency unit (eg the pound) or with the
   value of the sub-units (eg the penny).  In other words did they do it
   by letting one cent = one penny 
	  or  one dollar = 1 pound.

     Was there any special reason why Australia and NZ both changed the
   names of their currency while the UK did not?

I believe that Australia and New Zealand changed the name of their
currency to get rid of a reminder of the days when both were part of
the British Empire. [I can remember there was quite a fuss made about
this in the UK at the time.] If they changed the value of their
currency unit for decimalisation, a new name for that unit would save
confusion because the old and new units would have differnt values.

		Jim
From: afc@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (Andrew F. Cockburn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:40:56 -0500
Organization: USDA/ARS/MAVERL

In article <77628@ut-emx.uucp>, sjk@ut-emx.uucp (Phil Alvin) writes:
> 
> I'll be going to Australia in September on business, and would like
> to take a few days off to see (and snorkel) the Great Barrier Reef.
> It looks like Cairns is the best place to start from.  If so, can
> anyone give me some rough travel costs from Syndey by plane, bus
> and rail?  If not, any other advice on how to see the Reef?
> 
> Thanks,
> scot
> sjk@emx.cc.utexas.edu

I tried mailing this reply, but my mailer didn't recognize your address, 
so:

I am assuming that you are traveling from the US to Australia over the
Pacific.  What I have done several times is to make the trip via Cairns
or Townsville, eg US-Cairns-Sydney-US or US-Sydney-Cairns-US.  There are
(or were) weekly international flights into both cities and this is almost
certainly going to be the cheapest, easiest, and fastest way to make the
side trip.

I have driven from Sydney to Cairns and back and agree with other posters
that you should forget about ground transportation (unless you are <very>
interested in sugar cane fields).

Andrew Cockburn
USDA
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From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british
Subject: How did Australia and New Zealand Decimalise?
Date: 9 Aug 92 11:39:12 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.

In the 50's both Australia, Uk and NZ all had pounds shillings and
pence, now all are decimalised.

The UK did it by going from 240 pence in the pound to 100 new pence
in the pound.  they kept the pound the same but messed about with
the subunits - so causing massive problems and possibly suffering
and distress to people as they struggled to cope with the conversion
of 1 old penny being 5/12 of a new penny.

    In Australia and New Zealand was decimalisation done by messing
about with the value of the currency unit (eg the pound) or with the
value of the sub-units (eg the penny).  In other words did they do it
by letting one cent = one penny 
       or  one dollar = 1 pound.

  Was there any special reason why Australia and NZ both changed the
names of their currency while the UK did not?

   In the UK they chose to mess about with the value of the sub-unit
so putting the slight inconvenience this would have caused financiers
and banks ahead of the great distress it caused normal people.

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From: jcs@bear.bt.co.uk (John C Sager)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.new-zealand,can.politics,can.general,aus.politics
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:15:21 GMT
Organization: British Telecommunications plc

It's a bit like wishing you were a child again, because you didn't bargain
for the pressures of adulthood. But time, and the world, move on.
The days of Empire are long gone and, apart from examples like this, the
mind-set with it.

John C Sager					Mail:	B67 G18, BT Labs
Email:	jcs@zoo.bt.co.uk				Martlesham Heath
Tel:	+44 473 642623					IPSWICH  IP5 7RE
Fax:	+44 473 637614					England
From: nicholso@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Melvin H. Nicholson YBH)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Australia??
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:35:26 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035

martin@lillee.cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas) writes:
>huumala@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
>
>>Weather: winter (Jun, Jul, Aug):  Teens and windy
>>         summer (Dec, Jan, Feb):  20-35C and humid
>>         spring and fall:         somewhere inbetween.
>
>You really can't generalise this much on the weather... Australia is a very
>large country and its climates range from winter snow in the mountains of the
>south to extremely dry deserts in the centre and tropical jungles up in
>the north... 

The question (posed in an earlier posting) asked about the weather in
Sydney, not all of Austrlia.  "huumala"'s data should be limited to that
domain.

Mel
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From: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.brit
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:07:03 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory

In article <uPVuPB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
> 
>    BTW, if anyone thinks I am loopy, ridiculers, mockers, and even satirists, I
> challenge you to come up with a better alternative!
> 

Like they say:  If it's not broken, don't fix it.


Boyd Roberts			boyd@prl.dec.com

``When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro...''
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: jeremy@cheetah.inmos.co.uk (Jeremy Thorp)
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:20:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.184802.13036@newserve.cc.binghamton.edu>, kym@bingsunl.cc.binghamton.edu (R. Kym Horsell) writes:
|> Talking about Qld -- some contest recently aired here regarding
|> a ``world's biggest cockroach'' competition out of California. 
|> 
|> I'm sure Qld-ers will be amused to hear a 1.5 inch (I'm not getting confused 
|> between feet and inches here ;-) specimen won.

I'm sure that the cockroach that I squashed in my room (in a Cairns backpacker place)
about two weeks ago was longer that 1.5 inches - 2 inches is probably about right.

My girlfiend (now fiancee) and I got back from a four week trip around Oz on Sunday. We had a
brilliant time!!!

We spent just over 5 days in Cairns, and did 4 day trips.

The beaches at Cairns itself are mud, and during summer have the box jellyfish around so you
can't swim. If you've never heard of the box jellyfish, it is deadly. There are several
islands near Cairns (e.g. Green Island) that are very nice, with nice beaches you can swim
from. Cairns is very close to the Barrier Reef, the Reef is closer to the shore in the north.

Cairns is very much geared up to holiday makers - the four day trips we did were

  1) white water rafting
  2) Kuranda scenic railway and a tour inland of Cairns
  3) Daintree Rainforest & Cape Tribulation (including croc. spotting)
  3) Dunk Island and the outer reef.

Go to Cairns, you'll love it.

-- 
Jeremy Thorp, INMOS Ltd, 	|	jeremy@inmos.com
1000 Aztec West, Almondsbury, 	|	jeremy@inmos.co.uk
Bristol, BS12 4SQ, UK.		|	
Tel.  +44 454 616616    Fax. +44 454 617910