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From: trsajo@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Johansson)
Subject: Re: GTS1000A gripe
Reply-To: trsajo@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:21:50 GMT

In article Dv5@javelin.sim.es.com, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
> joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:
> 
> >Krauser makes hard bags for a whole bunch of different bikes, I've even
> >seen them on Ducati's. you must admit, the BMW bags look and fit better
> >than any krauser could ever hope to,
> 
> No and yes. The BMW bags do tuck in tighter, but they look a lot more
> like suitcases than the Krauser K2 bags. Of course the Krauser K1/Star/
> Starlet bags are even boxier than the BMW bags.
> -- 

	Interesting, because BMW buys most of their bags from Krauser, and then put
	BMW badges on them. At least that was how it used to be a few years ago.
	And YES, I do have a BMW with BMW, er Krauser, bags on it. (R100RS -81).

	The bags are good, but the mounts are crap. Thin soldered tubes that crack
	from no load at all :-(. Almost lost one bag once due to that. Nowadays I
	always secure them with a strap across the saddle, even though I got an extra
	supporting spar welded between the mounts below the rear lamp.

	
	Anders Johansson, Telia Research, Sundsvall, Sweden.



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:49:24 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>In article 7211@spdc.ti.com, crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder) writes:

>>I even discovered that throttle steering on gravel roads works 
>>quite well -- I once tossed another street bike trying this.

>Throttle steering?

>Sure, on a bike with a sidecar, but on a motorcycle?

>Enlighten me.

edgetaDIRTbike!

Seriously though, steering with the throttle is a common trick on dirt
bikes (well, at least on bikes with more power than my DR250). And
those supermen that roadrace for a living seem to use it quite a bit too. 

PS, it also works great on the Quadracer, especially in sand. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: QUAD Systems
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:51:17 GMT

In article <BxzJwI.AB@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.200105.12133@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>>In article <1992Nov19.033924.25567@spdc.ti.com> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>
>>  Really.  Are you really this stupid?
>>
>>  OK, do this for me.  Put your helmet on and without turning your *head*,
>
> (lots of almost right rationalizations why not to wear a helmet deleted)
>
> (stuff deleted)
>
>Good SA depends more on the quantity of information gathered, which comes
>almost exclusively from the 5 degreee locus around the point of focus, with
>almost none of it coming from the region that is normally called 'peripheral
>vision'.
>
>Since it is very difficult to focus on a point very far from the center of 
>the field of view (in front of the head: try to focus on something in the 
>'peripheral vision' region) this part of your vision is not as important as
>one simple concept: scan.  Moving the focus of vision is the primary method
>for gathering information on the environment, and if you rely on peripheral
>vision to warn you of danger then you are not scanning your environment
>enough.
>

This is easily explained. I seem to remember that the retina has only a very 
small area that contains sufficient receptors to provide a focused image.
You cannot actually focus outside that narrow area, but the brain normally
compensates for this effectively. I think that 5 degress may be just right.

>You did not even mention one of the major benefits of helmets: protection from
>flying dust particles (yes, on my fully faired Wing it is a problem) or just
>the wind itself.  On any bike, there is enough turbulence even in a relatively
>calm pocket to cause reduction of visual acuity when you do not wear goggles 
>or a full face helmet.
>

I have tried riding without a helmet, but the air pressure makes my eyes 
water at speeds over 25/30mph so it's a no-go.



-- 

Roland Besserer
QUAD Systems
roland@quadsys.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was:Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:34:42 GMT

In article <6a#@byu.edu>, bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield) writes:

|> Actually your exactly right, the problem with the 2-stroke and the epa is
|> the unburned fuel in the exhaust at any speed which contributes to terrible
|> emmisions.

Is there room on a bike for a small after-burner? Mazda
used one to reduce emissions on their early rotary imports....

This and variable exhaust ports would give 2-strokes the
edge on 4 stroke. Especially without valves to adjust....


Curt
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was: Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:57:02 GMT

In article <92Nov18.153919.18520@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>In article <BxnuyM.Eo3@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>>In <1992Nov12.222934.2542@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov12.215739.10125@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>>> In article <1992Nov11.172357.2534@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>>>	Interesting...  shows you what I know about 2-strokes.  I would sure
>>>like to see a current-tech streetable 2-stroke.  Sheah, good luck.  *sigh*

What about a '92 TZR250 and a '92 NSR250 and a '92 RGV250? The Yamaha and 
the Honda are absolut current-tech. GP replicas.

>>  The Canadian spec. RZ350 from about 85 on (full fairing) is pretty
>>damn current considering there were no significant design changes made.
>>It produces a claimed 55 HP through different ignition, barrels, and
>>crank than US version. I beleive it weighs in at 380 lbs wet. Shows what
>>a lack of weight can do for a bike. Had Yamaha put a truly sophisticated
>>suspension on it (TZR250,NS400) they'd still be making them today.
>They are still making them today...Or at least they are still
>selling brand new ones in Yamaha dealerships in Canada.
>I own one.

Actually what you get are left-over models. They stopped making them in
1990. In spring 1992 they started making them again for the Brazilian
market! A bit different fairing (and only full fairing available) but
engine & frame like the 1990 model.

>The suspension is actually pretty good, and by upgrading the
>shock, it can be made better. The real problem with the RZ is
>that the frame and steering geometry are simply too conservative
>to make full use of today's tires.

Yes, hard riding drags the exhaust pipes on the ground :-( I could go 
faster without the pipes in the way with my Metzler ME1 CompK.

>The RZ is a first rate motorcycle, fast, sweet handling, light
>and pretty...
You're right. I absolutly love mine.

>I would be willing to guess that a totally reworked RZ350,
>fresh from the drafting table, would run circles around anything
>up to a GSXR750. The weight advantage of the simple motor,
>the compact nature of the engine, and the fact that you get twice
>as many power strokes (bang whoosh bang whoosh, as opposed to
>bang whoosh compress bang whoosh compress bang), make it an
>inherently superior design for power production.

Actually it ain't to hard to ride faster than a GSXR750. Take a CBR600F2
to compare it. They are better than those GSXR750 and unfortunately
faster in corners than my RZ due to the exhaust dragging problem.


The RZ is a superbike. When I have enough money I would buy a '93 TZR250
with catalytic converter and still around 65 hp (DIN hp).

-Axel
-- 
fischer@netmbx.de                                                   DoD #0228
GSXR1100 - RD350LCN - XR250R
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF=Infallible (was Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd.)
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:26:26 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <37629@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> jeg@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John Gelnaw) writes:
>>In article <9901072@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
>>wrote:
>> Did you know that the majority of fatal head injuries incurred by
>> helmetless riders have resulted in death?  I rest my case.
>
>Hmmmm... Now, if this person is using this as a SERIOUS argument, the only
>conclusion I can reach is that at some time they suffered a not-quite-so fatal
>head injury, perhaps as a small child.


Cripes, Jeff, if you can catch striped bass as well as you fish in Speckled
Throated Gull Abulls, you deserve a tropy.











-- 
Ray Shea                               I woke up this morning,
UniSQL, Inc.                           all my shrimps was dead and gone...
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
From: geirs@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geir Solvang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: HELMETS
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:16:15 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

I have seen a lot of hostility against helmet laws in this newsgroup, and they all seem to come from the states. Perhaps idealy it should be legal to decide for yourself whether you want to wear a helmet or not, especially if you come from the land of the free, home of the brave (or something similar crappy)!).

But why on earth would anyone *NOT* wear a helmet. A guy with a 100$ head wear a 100$ helmet. If you are not wearing a helemet at all, you must really be an complete and utter idiot! In general I consider people riding without a helmet not to be a REAL biker. From where I come from it's just stupid kids that ever ride without a helmet.

On the other side. If you can't take care of yourself, perhaps you don't deserve others to do it for you.

Geir
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:28:22 GMT

In article <BxvKzz.2n1@apollo.hp.com> brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
>So here is your essay question -- what would you ride on a 10,000 mile trip?
>Pencils up... and begin.

I always hated essay questions but this one is easy.  Either my K100RS, or
an R100GS PD - my next bike ;-)    If I were going on the trip you mention I'd
probably opt for the PD.

Jim Bessette

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Cops Suck!  Cops Suck!
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:18:23 GMT

james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov16.145727.3514@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
: >
: >One hour later, they 'phoned back to say that one of their patrols had picked
: >it up and that I could collect it on the morrow!  I was dead chuffed!  The
: >pigs do have at least one purpose that I approve of, after all!  Aside from 
: >a bit of a scuffing to the bag and a couple of scratched CD cases, the bag
: >and it's contents were in fine fettle.
: >
: >Nick (the Bloody Lucky Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford
: >M'Lud.
:  
: Was your smoke OK?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
:   
: =============================================================================
:  Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes 
:  Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
: =============================================================================

I beg your pardon, my good fellow?


Nick (the Puzzled Biker. or am I being dense?)   MAG 7...well, you know....


M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: zippy@tc.fluke.COM (Steven Zopfi)
Subject: Bike Calendars
Keywords: Politically Correct Calendars Bike
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:24:38 GMT

Ok, I know that this is gonna sound a bit weird (oh gee, that will be a first for this group.  I am in need of a new calander for 1993 to be placed at work. I am looking for a calander with bikes on it (do declare my independence you know) and I wanna get one that has sport bikes on it (no offense to you harley types, I am just like sport bikes, ok enuf said).  The problem is that living in a Politically Correct (tm) society, the standard Bikes, Babes and Bikinis wouldn't go over too well at work.  Does an




yone know of a calander with sport bikes that would be appropriate for the work enviroment.  I thought last year that there was a GP racing calander with all the big guns in it but either I was dreaming or it isn't available this year.

Thanks for your input!  Find me a calander or I'll be forced to get a airplane calander or something like that!!


================================================================================
zippy@tc.fluke.COM          Steven Zopfi               (206) 356-5653
'85 ZX550A GPz Pilot   Dream>>Ducati 851   LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OF OF THE WAY...
================================================================================
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: per mile stats (was Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX)
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:30:01 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]]"Say on a per mile basis someone is five times (I don't know the actual
]]figure and would appreciate it if anyone knows) as likely to be killed
]]on a motorcycle than in a car.  

what is the fatality per mile figure for both mc's and cars?

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts)
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:44:32 GMT

I know I always wear my Defeat Level IIA Kevlar T-shirt when flying.


Boyd Roberts			boyd@prl.dec.com

``When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro...''
From: marrevola@rediris.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ZX-11 front brake.
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:33:01 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <1992Nov18.150911.24658@exu.ericsson.se>, lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos) writes:
> What I am trying to ask here is: What can a aftermarket brake system
> (calipers,pads&discs) offer you apart from greater fade resistance? Do they
> truely offer reduced stopping distances? If so how?

I think that a brake with very good feel should reduce stopping distances, if
the wheel decrases speed exactly as you are pushing the lever, if you feel with
no variation in this braking action, I'm almost sure that you can reduce stopping
distances (imagine an "human ABS...").

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
DoD #1033
From: mick@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Indian???? BSA???
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:18:18 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott) writes:
>
>Can anyone else elaborate on Indian history ?
>

	well lets see... first we were living peacefully somewhere
	around 1000b.c i think near the indus valley and the nomadic
	herds from the west came and invaded us and drove us south,
	where we lived happily for some time, till alexander the great
	set out to conquer us. after that we narrowly missed another
	conquest due to a slight miscalculation of direction by
	mr. columbus of portugal [??]. the moghuls from persia where
	next... they stuck on for some time and gave us the taj mahal,
	among other things! the british, the french and the portugese
	followed soon and gave us many fine things including the
	english language. the british are also to be thanked for our
	ability to drive on the right side (which happens to be the
	left) of the road, and spell words properly (through, humour)
	(uughh! now i have to spell check this entire post!), and also
	our all new victorian morals (in the land of the kama sutra!).
	well they took leave in a while, and we are now ruled by pepsi
	cola and mtv.

	hope this answers your question!

	peace,

	- ravi "the politically correct indian"

	;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: GTS1000A gripe
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:59:59 GMT

Michael Bain (meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com) wrote:
: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
: >
: >Over here, (Blighty), Yamaha sell matching hard luggage for FJs, along with
: >different size screens.
: 
: Would it do us any good, here in the USA, to know part numbers and
: sources for these goodies?  Or who makes them for Yamaha?  (Probably
: Krauser, I suppose for the bags ...)
: 
: 
: -- 
: Michael "Chuck" Bain                       meb4593@icdfs.ca.boeing.com  
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
: 		       "Visualize Whirled Peas"


I believe that Krauser make the colour matched FJ panniers.

If you come to The Bike Show on 5/12 at the NEC, then you can buy some.

I will try and find out the part numbers but I think that Mitsui should be 
able to help you out.


Nick (the non-Japanese Anymore Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford


M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:57:43 GMT

In article <1434@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth
Gill) writes:
|> rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
|> : I was just watching cops on fox and they had a report on an
|> accident
|> : 
|> : I might want to stop riding my bike.  I have always though about
|> the
|> : possibility of getting into an accident and losing some body
|> parts,
|> : but it is different when you see it happen!
|> : 
|> : anyway, I just thought you might be interested in hearing about
|> this.
|> : I was shaken up a little.
|> : 
|> 	Anybody out there ever know anyone to die in an auto accident?
|> Did you ever consider abondoning the automobile as a transportation
|> source?  Just a thought....
|> 
|> 				Ryan
|> 
 Spent 5 years on a volunteer rescue squad after getting off
active duty. Went the whole EMT route and really enjoyed it.
Then I went to my first DWI where this AH tboned a camaro into
a 4foot oak tree. The camaro was parked while the mother was
breast feeding her baby, they both died. Result, I have no
tolerance for drunks and believe in the death penalty for those
who do what he did, I dont want to hear "well I have a problem 
and it wasnt my fault", In a different time and place he wouldn't
have the problem anymore or any others for that matter. Even after
15 years that anger is still, I hope that SOB woke up one nite
and blew his brains out but not much chance of that cause I
think he was a lawyer :-\
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From: mick@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Adoption announcement
Date: 23 Nov 1992 18:03:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
>		*** Adoption Announcement ***!
>
>The Berry residence would like to announce the addition of a
>new member: a BMW R65LS, known as NM (Noemi's Motorcycle)!

	thats good news! congratulations!


>Though NM is a large, strapping motorcycle, its owner
>is determined to stand her ground and not lose the inevitable battles
>brought about by a sizable height and weight difference.

	the observant reader hopes that the NM is not taller than one
	other motorcycle, that comes to mind, by name yamaha seca. ;-)
	;-) (hey, now that you have a new motorcycle - well new to you
	- i guess i can take digs at that ;-)).

	hope you have lots of fun riding it... of course you should've
	bought a suzuki gs500E if you had any sense, but (despite
	contrary rumour propogated by the NeDoD) i am gentleman
	enough not to mention that at this point. ;-)

	scott, if you are reading this, congratulations on the vfr..
	when is it coming? are we having an nedod party maybe at your
	place ;-) ;-). i would love to meet the dogs again!!!

	peace,

	- ravi

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