From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy
Subject: Re: Sven Hoek must die!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:17:30 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price) writes:

> >Well, I just watched the tape of last night's episode. I should've known we 
> >were in trouble when they added live-action to it...
> >A few random notes:
> >1) Have they replaced John K. already for Ren's voice? Half of the time, it 
> >sounded nothing like him, especially in the "What'll we do till then?" 
> >sequence.
> 
> It was obviously John's voice all the time -- you'll notice that when he
> didn't sound like Ren, he sounded like Mr. Horse. The last sequence was
> almost certainly an older recording, back when his Ren-voice was tight,
> due to a lack of distractions.
> 
 
Even in the WWDTT? sequence? I think it's already been noted that Ren's 
voice in that one sounded nothing like the voice from Sven Hoek, let alone 
from, say, "Space Madness" or "Robin Hoek".
 
> >2) If this is an indication of what the rest of the new season is going to 
> >be like, I'm not even gonna bother watching anymore. This had to be the most
> >disappointing episode since "In The Army", and what made it seem a lot worse
> >was that Nick showed "Marooned/A Cartoon: Untamed World" this morning.
> >3) Who was responsible for the "plot"? It looked like they had a standard 
> >8-minute episode, but they did a lot of padding.
> 
> If I may say so without causing offense, you're an idiot! There have been
> messages all over this newsgroup for weeks to the effect that "Sven Hoek"
> is all John K's work and is one of the three episodes that he was fired
> over. It was hilarious, and my house's consensus was that it pushed the limit
> of scarey even farther than the walrus portion of "Rubber Nipple Salesmen."
> Heck, _we_ would have fired him.
> 
> However, since you wrongly thought that John K wasn't involved, you didn't 
> like it. This suggests that your appreciation is a crowd phenomenon and isn't
> really dependent upon the presence of the actual cartoon ...
> 
 
So, your house enjoyed it. Congratulations. However, I still don't like it.
 
As for John K.'s involvement/non-involvement, I never said he had nothing to 
do with it. All I said was that it sounded like John's replacement for Ren 
has already been put to work. Otherwise, it looked like a normal (for lack 
of a better term) R&S episode. No, I'm not going to enjoy R&S just because 
of John K.'s work. Remember, I already said I didn't like "In The Army", and 
John was still a member of Spumco for that episode. I'm not going to say 
something to the effect of "Tom, you eeeeeedddeeot!" because you called me 
an idiot, but don't assume that just because I don't like ONE EPISODE of 
R&S, that makes me an R&S hater. To equate it to music, I hated Yes' "Big 
Generator" album, even though I loved "90125". The same staff (with the 
exception of some production) worked on both albums, but the writing on the 
former was way below Yes standards. Likewise, in my opinion, Sven Hoek was 
way below standard.
 
--Don

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