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From: B_LUND1@unhh.unh.edu (Marcus Windwalker)
Subject: Re: Question on the Master
Organization: Wallston 'Friends'
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:09:46 GMT
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In <retief.702747087@mchem3.al.iastate.edu> retief@iastate.edu writes:

| In <WGARMIL.92Apr7162521@cs.ulowell.edu> wgarmil@cs.ulowell.edu (WildCard) writes:

| Roger Delgado, The REAL Master, died between the stories 'Frontier in
| Space' and 'Planet of the Daleks'--right after the Master had teamed
| up with the Daleks.  I wish there was some way to know what 'Planet'
| would hhave been like, the Doctor had just called Gallifrey in
| 'Frontier'.  I never did think Anthony Ainsley was quite as good at
| the Master.

	I saw most of Anthony Ainley's Master stories before I saw _any_
of Roger Delgado's.  I thought of Ainley as the real Master until I saw
Delgado.  Now, I think of them as at least equals in the part.

| -- 
| Jim Miller <retief@iastate.edu> (From an ad for the Banana Jr. 6000)
| "...well-documented research has shown conclusively that a child who
| lacks his own personal computer during those earliest school years will
| probably grow up to be a bass player in a heavy-metal rock band..."

	B_LUND1@UNHH.UNH.EDU
From: ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Pertwee, etc. - Brian Blessed!
Date: 11 Apr 92 11:05:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: orbit.7447
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

pjam@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>In article <retief.702882071@mchem3.al.iastate.edu>, retief@iastate.edu (Jim Miller) writes:
>> 
>> )Brian Blessed would be interesting too, as long as he didn't
>> )act too silly (as his character did in the Trial of a Time Lord).
>> 
>> Um, I don't place the name Brian Blessed with someone right now, can
>> someone give me a couple of examples of his work?
>
>One example is in the Colin Baker -Trial of a Timelord season (second story,  
> whatever it's title was...). Blessed played the exuberently loud King 
>Ycarnos, who was manipulated by the timelords into destroying a 
>successful life-transfer experiment (that threatened time, I suppose).
>
>I don't know his other works, but you can check out his perhaps silly 
>but very entertaining performance in the second story of Trial of a 
>Timelord. The silliness may be in the character more than the actor; 
>I'd like to see more of him. Other Brian Blessed works, anyone?

Brian Blessed also played the king in the BBC series _The Black Adder_.

Christopher Galas
CEG@PNet51.Orb.MN.Org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: The Master's Past
Keywords: Master history regeneration delgado ainley
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:15:25 GMT

In article <malinon.703021180@vincent1.iastate.edu> malinon@iastate.edu (Ramon C Redondo) writes:
>	Sice we have talked about the Master's most recent incarnations...
>I have a question.  Does anyone have any knowledge of the Master's life BEFORE
>Roger Delgado played him?  This would MOSTLY be outside of the actual show,
>but I have heard a rummor
>the the Master was the Monk in the Time Meddler

This was discussed quite heavily quite a while back. It can only be suggested
that they are the same, since I don't think it is discussed in any official
Who literature. Someone gave some good reasons why they are NOT the same. The
only one I can remember is that the Monk dies in The Daleks' Masterplan. I
haven't been able to get the second part of the novel to find out for myself,
but I guess he, like the War Chief, didn't regenerate (which brings about the
discussion that a Timelord killed outright won't regenerate). I would guess
that they are not the same since the story writers probably decided to
introduce a new villain for the entire 8th season. Perhaps someone with a
list of authors can see if the same one is involved in The Time Meddler, The
Daleks' Masterplan, and any 8th season story. If not, I would be more convinced
that there is no correlation between the two bad guys.

Like any sci-fi, the Monk or the War Chief could be brought back by just
writing a story explaining how. The Doctor can regenerate more than 12 times
if someone cooks a story to explain the weird circumstances necessary. Perhaps
there is a future story where the Master and the Monk team up. (NOT!)

Tom

P.S. (commentator's voice): Today, it's the Master, the Rani, the War Chief,
Omega, and Borusa versus The Doctor, incarnations 4, 5, and 7, Rassilon, and
K'Anpo in the Armageddon Cup Finals...(the ultimate story 8-)
From: yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dr. Who Encyclopedia?
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:44:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Apr6.233621.10749@nic.unh.edu> J_DELANO1@unhh.unh.edu (Jeff   Delano) writes:
>
>	Our erudite author lister, John Wenn, has listed in his
>Dr. Who Books list the Doctor Who Encyclopedia.  He has two volumes
>listed, which cover half the alphabet.  I have never heard of these
>books anywhere else.  Can anyone tell me if they are genuine?
>	Senex

I am not sure we are talking about the same thing but there is a guy
who is writing a series of books which is an encyclopedia of
characters appearing in Dr. Who.  He is up to about M.  I talked to a
vendor at ICON last weekend.  There have been no new volumes out
recently.  The vendor told me that the problem is that the series is
not selling all that well (?Perhaps people are waiting to see if the
entire alphabet is going to come out?).  There is a solid chance that
the series will NEVER be completed.


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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: cbs/fox videos-update
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:18:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <1992Apr13.752.9392@dosgate> "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:
> So, please do continue your informative postings to Canada. Thanks!
> I'll even capture this message and post them on various DW BBS's. (So
>long as you don't have a problem with that?)

Ok, on both points. I don't have anything to add to the last post
unfortunately. No one replied claiming owning a copy of The War Games. If
someone knows a phone number for CBS/FOX, I'll give them a call. If not, I'll
write to them, but that might take a while.

While I'm at it, I'll ask about (1) re-releases of old videos in episode
format, (2) what the plans are for future releases, and (3) put in a plea
for a quick release of Tomb'. Pass along some other requests if you have
them (Dr. Who only). I definitely want this War Games problem fixed, as I
am very disappointed in the quality of the one I bought (maybe it was a
one-time flaw). Again, please pass along a phone number if you have one.

Oh, and one other thing: if anyone is a member of Columbia House's video
club, can you get Dr. Who videos through it? I figure if I'm going to buy
some anyway, perhaps I can get a bunch of free movies first, and then buy
Dr. Who to fulfill the membership.

E-mail replies unless they're of general interest.

Tom
From: norbeck@mira.bucknell.edu (nancy norbeck `93)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi Channel (OOOPS!)
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:47:16 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

In article <1992Apr8.225812.1716@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:
>
>In a previous article, norbeck@castor.cs.bucknell.edu (nancy norbeck `93) says:
>
>>
>>When I was home on spring break two weeks ago Maryland Public
>>Television was showing the Hartnells, specifically The Dalek Master
>>Plan and The Rescue, in the two weeks I was at home.  I know the
>
>^^^^are you sure it was The Dalek Masterplan? I was under the 
>impression that this was on of the stories that has only one or two
>episodes that haven't been lost.


Ummmmm.....I goofed.  I looked it up before I wrote my post to be sure
I didn't get the wrong one, but managed to do it anyway.  Oh well, I
guess there's just no hope for some of us... :-/

The correct show was the Dalek Invasion of Earth, methinks.  Yeah,
that's the one.  Really.

Sorry about that....



Nancy Norbeck



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Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: mark@storm.mmm.ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Subject: Re: Brian Blessed's Roles
Reply-To: bradfrd2@ncar.ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Organization: STORM Project Office, NCAR, Boulder
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:16:05 GMT

In <12519@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@lucy.umd.edu (Jon Blum) writes:

>He's played a raving egomaniac priest in Blake's Seven: Cygnus Alpha,
>a raving egomaniac warrior in Mindwarp, the raving egomaniac king of the
>hawkmen in Flash Gordon: The Movie, the raving (not necessarily egomaniac)
>king in the first Black Adder, the god-emperor Augustus in I, Claudius,
>and God in a Season 5 episode of Red Dwarf.

>Plus he was Robin Hood's father in Prince of Thieves, but he wasn't onscreen
>enough to show much of an ego.

I'm a big fan of Brian Blessed, so I'm pleased to learn of some of his
other roles -- I didn't know he was in _Red Dwarf_ or _I, Claudius_ -- but
I'm surprised that, in these several messages, nobody has mentioned that he
had a sizable role as the Duke of Exeter in Kenneth Branagh's excellent
film of Shakespeare's _Henry V_.  Cool armor, too.  :)

"This is his claim, his threatening... and my message."
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                  "It's an ill wind that gathers no moss."
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Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 09:17:54 EDT
From: <JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: K-9 and Company (opinions)

     I just thought I'd put in a few words about _K-9 and Company_.  I take it
 that the BBC originally cancelled the show because it didn't receive high
 enough ratings.  Am I right about this?
I think the show would have done better if the guy starring in the program
 hadn't been Sarah Jane's nephew, but her fiance.  Or else her nephew should
 have been given a girlfriend without Sarah in the action as much.  Or else the
 nephew should have been nixed altogether.  He didn't fit too well in the plot
 anyway.
The reason for this appears to be that John Nathan Turner was trying to
pull in too big an audience.  At the children's level, he had K-9 in that
 really cheesy intro. to the program (not nearly as good as the way Dr. Who
 started out...should have had something with more of a science-fiction look
 and not so much of the comic book look).  Sarah's nephew, who was probably
 supposed to be around 19, brought in the teenage audience.  (I think that that
 was one reason _Tripods_ did so well--because of the "late teens" characters).
 Finally, K-9 and Sarah and the plot with the witches of Morton-Howard (sp?)
 brought in the Dr. Who audience (all ages).  JNT should have just went for the
 last group.
     The series may have done better if the first show would have been set on
 somewhere other than Earth.  All in all, there were too many openings.  Since
the show was about K-9, next thing you know, they could do an adventure with
 Leela & Andred on Gallifrey or Romana and Tharil (sp?) in E-space.  That would
 either hit it off big or lose really big.
Just a few opinions.  I probably have others, but I just don't have the
 time.  Dr. Who, I need you!
--Forever a devoted Dr. Who fan, John.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.drwho:2692 rec.video:6242
From: keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Ron O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.video
Subject: BBC Video copy protection
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 05:11:33 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho
Organization: The Armory



OK, folks, here's a-what I wanna know...

Would the protection put on BBC Video VHS releases affect
a conversion to NTSC using the inexpensive machines, like
Panasonic AG-W1 (or whatever the letters are)?

Please, no spiel about that system being yucky, and nowhere
near as good as a conversion done by a $2 million system ...

And, since I don't actually receive rec.video, followups to
rec.arts.drwho.

Before anyone shouts `copyright!' -- I personally don't have such
a machine, so the only way I would be able to see a BBC Video VHS
release would be to have a friend use one of these machines to
make me an NTSC conversion.  >Me<.  So there...!

Thanks
From: 11458747@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (CHRISTIAN WILSON)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: New series of dr. who on the ABC??
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:13:29 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

Anyone know when the ABC (australian!) will be starting a new series of DR. 
Who? and whether that series will infact be new or another repeat of the 
same old episodes...

Thanks,
Christian.
From: zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: >>favorite doctor
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:58:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

schouten@sp17.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.175001.27993@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mongoose@gawain.cif.rochester.edu (riki tiki tavi) writes:
>> Huh?  I just saw somone say that Troughton developed the jelly baby
>> fetish... i thought that was Baker....
>I think that was me.  I'm pretty sure that PT was eating (and offering)
>JB's in `The Three Doctors'(TTD), which is pre-TB.  Beyond that I can't say
>for sure.
Well, I do not remember the episode, but I remember seeing in one of P.
Troughton's episodes the doctor was eating/offering jelly babies. This was
before Pertwee showed up (ie, not the 2/3/5 doctors)
just my $2 worth (hey, I actually had to "work"- forced to watch D.Who  ;-}
--Matthew
From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Pertwee Years
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:50:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr13.015031.10852
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) says:

>According to DWM 184, the BBC was due to release the video
>Doctor Who: The Pertwee Years in March.  Has anyone seen this?
>If so, what is on it?  The Hartnell and Troughton ones had
>single episodes of lost stories, but obviously this approach
>won't work with Pertwee and beyond.

But it will if they release Part 1 of "Invasion Of The Dinosaurs"
and Parts 3 & 4 (what isn't used of pt.4) of "Planet Of The Daleks".
I'd like to see both of these segments even if they only exist in
B&W.


"It looks like we're gonna need a new Timmy!"
               --Mr. Lizard
                 Dinosaurs
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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Question on the Master
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:08:02 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <WGARMIL.92Apr7162521@cs.ulowell.edu> wgarmil@cs.ulowell.edu (WildCard) writes:


>I think everyone is forgetting the real reason for the BBC doing this.

>The actor who played hte orginal Master died right before that episode
>was filmed.  Rather than kill the character off, the BBC had someone
>play that decrepid version. 

*BING!!*
Wrong!!
Roger Delgado died in 1973. 'Assassin' dates from 1976.
Surely they had time to seek a replacement actor in 3 years?
But who cares anyway? Assassin was a classic story, and the
Master's appearance makes it even more convincing (and he looks kinda cool,
in a gruesome sort of way...)
Daniel.
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 14:05:07 EDT
From: <JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Douglas Adams

Well, my friends, I laughed over the argument about Douglas having terminal c
cancer or not.  I can say with complete confidence that he doesn't, or else he
wouldn't be locked in his office day in, day out writing Mostly Harmless for
us.  MH is due stateside in September or October, BTW.  I'll tell him you all
said hello, when I e-mail him in June. (Before you even ask I WILL NOT give out
CompuServe address...I promised I wouldn't.) Cheers.
                                         -- Chainsaw aka Jean Prior
                                            JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu
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From: J_DELANO1@unhh.unh.edu (Jeff   Delano)
Subject: Ages
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:57:30 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

>And remember, Hartnell was much younger when he took the role than
>Pertwee is now

	This brings up an interesting question:  Just how old were these
guys when they started playing the part?  Anybody have any birth dates?
	Senex

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From: hnoble@polari.com
Subject: Channels in Seattle Area?
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Distribution: pnw
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 23:35:57 GMT

	Channel 28 in Tacoma used to broadcast Dr. Who every Saturday
night and then stopped.  They seem to be using the good Dr as a tease
in their fund drives now.  They've said if they'd get enough pledges they's
start again.

	However, they haven't despite their having appeared to make their
goal.

	Is Dr. Who available anywhere else in Puget Sound Area?

-henry noble
polari!hnoble@sumax.seattleu.edu


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From: sharp@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Maurice Sharp)
Subject: Dr. Who stuff in SanFran area ?
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 03:19:18 GMT

I am going to be down in the Bay area this summer and was wondering
what sort of Dr. Who stuff occurs down there ? Are there any
conferences scheduled ? Does public TV carry the Doctor ? Are there
any placed to buy Who stuff ? Are there good bookstores to get Who
books/ stores to get Who videos ?

maurice

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From: ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Shada?
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:32:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cybernet.NwwyiB1w164w
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

Actually I wish to give you all some great news about the second part of 
this post (Re: Blakes 7).  It is no longer necessary to read and re-read 
that obviously (deservingly) disliked (and inaccurate!) novel in order to 
avoid withdrawl symptoms from too little Blakes 7! :-)  In a few days, I 
will post a hefty list of Blakes 7 fanzines that can be sent away for 
through the snail mail! (it will be posted under rec.arts.tv.uk)  I have 
found that the stories in these fanzines are (in most cases) 
fantastically written and characterized, as well as inspiring poems and 
art :-)) to relieve the burdened soul.  BTW, these are not magazines, 
they are stacks of typing/computer printing bound by everything from 
staples to spiral bindings and run from a compact 100 - 300+ pages!  Paul 
Darrow is known to enjoy the stories and occasionally shoot the authors 
on sight at conventions...;-)  I would gladly reply to any E-mail 
questions,etc.  I hope this coming list will lighten many hearts as it 
did my own when I discovered this resource...

             Yours in Time and Space,

              Ekho (Killer Queen, Dynamite with a Laser Beam!)
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From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Parallel Universes
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:24:25 GMT

In article <29EB7073.1817@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>>alberti@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Albatross) writes:
>>
>>
>>>Schroedinger's Cat is one example of different universes:  a cat is placed
>>>in a "black box" from which nothing can escape unless the box is opened.
>>>With the cat is a sample of radioactive iodine with a short half-life and
>>>a device which, upon detecting a radioactive emission from the iodine,
>>>releases a poison gas which kills the cat.  The box is closed and left
>>>closed for a time sufficient that the chance of such a radioactive emission
>>>is exactly 50/50.
>>
>>>When the box is opened, two universes split off -- one in which the cat is
>>>dead, the other in which the cat is alive.  Quantum physicists like to point
>>>at the unopened box and crow that the box contains a cat which is exactly
>>>half-dead, but none of them are willing to get in the box in order to report
>>>precisely what being half-dead feels like.
>>
>
>Physics says absolutely NOTHING about "universes splitting off"
>ANYWHERE.  It says only that, through the act of observation, we have
>influenced the universe in some way -- that you can't say that you
>"just" observe anything.  It says that the observer and the observed
>interact with one another through the act of observation.  "Splitting
>universes" are a science-fiction extension of this idea, the same way
>the Special Relativity was "extended" by some sci-fi crackpot to mean
>"Oh, we travel backward in time when we go faster than light!"
>(I'm using sci-fi in the most denigrating way possible here.)
>
>Try to keep track of what physics says, and what "sci-fi" says physics
>says.  Splitting universes are a nice idea, but (unfortunately, because
>physicists are intrigued by the idea, too) there is NO THEORETICAL OR
>EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE FOR IT.

	Now, now Janice, don't get too hyper on us.  Take a deep breath.
There, don't you feel a lot better?  
	To get back to the multiple universe theory, it's not a sci-fi.  It
is actually a genuine physics hypothesis called Everett Hypothesis.  It is
a solution to the Schroedinger's Cat problem (and other "paradoxes" in quantum
physics) advanced by Hugh Everett III.
	There are theories that are more crackpot than Everett Hypothesis,
so let's not get too hyper.  It's just one of many that are trying to explain
quantum effects.  As far as I know, none of these theories have solid
evidence for it.  (otherwise there wouldn't be so many of them...)  Finally,
yes, I am a physics major.

>
>Regards,
>Janis C.
>
>


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