HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org (Terry Bell N8HSP)
Reply-To: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Error Message???
Keywords: Drive 1, Boot
Date: 28 Aug 92 3:3:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: N8HSP Amateur Radio


With no partition active and when I reboot the system I get the following
message. I was wondering if it is normal or is this an error message?

Mark Williams
Drive 0
Drive 1 can't be read

Select partition [0-7]

"Drive 1 can't be read" is this typical?

Thanks es toodles, Terry
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, NSSDC, 301-286-2988)
Subject: Using dos* commands in v4.0.1
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  DOS
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:32:00 GMT

>batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, NSSDC, 301-286-2988) writes:

>> [...problem with "dos" commands and /dev/atoa (aka C:)...]
>> manual directs.  Before I phoned MWC, I checked whether the Superuser could
>> access C: and voila!  So with this info, I called MWC, and was told the fix:
>> login as root, chmod 666 /at0a

>I hope this is on a machine that you're the only one using - setting /dev/at0a
>to 0666 would allow any user to seriously scribble on your hard drive.

>                                                - k
>--
>Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342

That's right, I'm the sole user, and the system isn't open to outside logins.
I was just making the minor complaint that the spanking new dos* commands were
well-documented for COHERENT 4.0.1 EXCEPT that why they wouldn't IMMEDIATELY
work on drive C: was not explained.  At first I wondered if I had a hard drive
compatibility problem.  The Lexicon tells one to edit /etc/default/msdos but
that's not ALL you have to do for a normal user to access the C: drive.  You
also must log in as root and give the user permission to use the C: drive.  MWC
told me to:
cd /dev 
chmod 666 at0a
which is a security problem on multiuser systems.  Anyone have a better
solution?  I'm a novix ;-)

Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Reply-To: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Best news systems & readers enquiry
Organization: The Tiny Software Company, Main Office, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:55:42 

news@edus.uucp (Bob Perkins) writes:

>>I vote for elm and nn!
>I vote very strongly AGAINST nn. I have used nn for several years, and like
>it very much, and will probably continue to use it on the unix machine.
>My reason for voting for something else? At this time, I am reading about
>50 groups, and the "/usr/spool/nn/DATA" directory is 41 megs. That is forty-
>one megabytes of just cross-reference listing. nn is very fast, but a bit
>of a pig when it comes to disk usage. After taking a quick look at 'trn',
>I am going to install it and check the relative merits of each.

I am a big fan of trn. I use it regularly when logged in to my public
access account, which runs Interactive (System V). Lots of nice features,
especially the capability of extracting articles from places like
comp.sources.* or comp.binaries.*, uudecoding them and pasting them
together to re-create the original file automatically.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: forthy@pfm.rmt.sub.org (Stephan Forth)
Subject: Installation failure
Organization: PFM News & Mail RMT Mainz, Germany
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:50:20 GMT
Keywords: fdisk default devices

Hi, everybody,

now, I finally got my Coherent 4.0 :-) But the installation failed with
the following error: fdisk: cannot open default devices
This happend during the installation, after the install programm ask me
about the master boot utility. Any ideas?
My configuration: IBM PS/2 L40SX with <<NO>> Microchannel
                  386SX-20, 8MB RAM, 60MB Connor IDE-Drive,
                  VGA

Any help is welcome....

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0 vs. RAM
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:30:18 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

colega@GATECH.EDU (Gabriel Basco) writes:
: I just installed 4.0.1 and seems to run fine. Elm is great and
: can't wait to install Taylor UUCP. One little observation hopefully
: someone can explain. During the boot it Coherent tells me I have
: 2816 bytes free (my machine has 4megs). In 3.2.1 I had 3700 bytes
: free. Is 4.0.1 that BIG???

Not the kernel, but it allocates more disk buffers to speed things up.
You'll see it in the boot message. Coherent 4.0.x allocates disk buffers
as a percentage of the available memory. I've noticed this after
upgrading my memory from 2MB to 5MB.
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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: various ?
Date: 30 Aug 92 15:25:13 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <92082919473@umunk.GUN.de>, udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
> tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:
> [...]
> : Special question for Udo- yousay that Wnews is "much easier to install
> : than Cnews". Would it be on the order I outlined above, and if so where
> : could I anonymous ftp it?
> [...]
> Under Coherent 3.x make install and editing of the system files was
> enough to install it here on my system. Also I've hacked all the
> man pages so that they'll format nicely using Coherents man macros.
> I've also send this man files to MWC, maybe they have added them to
> the WNEWS distribution on MWCBBS. However, I haven't recompile the
> package under 4.0 yet, I'm still running the 286 binaries. Maybe
> there are problems if you try to install it under 4.0.
> Sorry but I don't know where to ftp it because I can't ftp. As far
> as I know it's not on raven, the only ftp site for Coherent.

No, it is not.  I just checked.

> 
> The last time I've readed much about trouble installing a news package,
> news reader and elm. I could set up a floppy disk or two with all this
> stuff ready to install while answering some simple questions like
> the installation of Coherent. But this is really a lot of work and
> I don't want to do it for two or three users. Also Coherent is my
> "play ground" at home, not my business, so I can't spend so much time
> with it as I would like to do.
> So my question: how many Coherent 4.0 users are out there who wants
> to get plug and play news and mail for Coherent 4.0 with printed
> manuals on a floppy disk distribution?

This is a great idea.  To be perfectly honest, I would be willing
to pay you to do it since I have spent so much time recently
(with little luck) trying to get my news system working again.
If you can get the disk to me, I can test it, put it in an
internet-friendly package, and post the whole lot at Raven.

Cheers,

Chris

p.s.  Please excuse the excess quoting.  As mynews system is
currently dead, I'm stuck using a strange vms system. :)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: chris@engineer.mrg.uswest.com (Chris Fedde)
Subject: Sig Saga (Was: Monochrome VGA monitor and virtual consoles)
Organization: USWEST Marketing Resources
NntpPostingHost: engineer.mrg.uswest.com
Date: 01 Sep 92 03:46:22 GMT

In article <dghn9l@Stollmann.DE> sc@sup.stollmann.de (Wilfried Schwartz) writes:
> 
> 
>    SSSSSS                Wilfried Schwartz         phone: ++49 40 89088 301
>   SS 
>    SSSSS    ccccc        sto//mann GmbH            fax:   ++49 40 89088 444
>        SS  cc            Gasstr. 18
>   SSSSSS    ccccc        D2000 Hamburg 50         email: sc@stollmann.de
>			  Germany
> 
> 
> #include <stddisclaimer.h>
> 

Is this in the excessive signature catagory?

	chris
 
Chris Fedde, USWEST MRG, chris@mrg.uswest.com, voice 3037842823
From: pechter@ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Pechter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: disk quotas/tape backup
Date: 30 Aug 92 15:55:16 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp.,Information Services

In article <92082919442@umunk.GUN.de> udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
>davison@living.rutgers.edu (Brian D. Davison) writes:
>
>: And, since I've got your attention, does Coherent support user disk
>: quotas?
>
>Yes, it comes with the quot command.

How did they manage that without a Berkeley file system...???

Quot looks more like a du-type accounting mechanism than Berkeley Quota's which
allow you to specify hard and soft disk usage levels. (A nice thing for MWC
but not needed).  I would like to see a BSD filesystem for it's increased
reliability and smarter layout... however quota's are a nice add on.


Also  -  anyone out there have specs and info on the Qic-02 command set and
register stuff. I've got  Genoa 3200 Galaxy tape unit (Archive QIC-36 drive
-60 mb-- with QIC02 interface adapter and a Genoa QIC02 interface to my 
pc.  The drive is standard - but the interface doesn't use the Archive
driver or a Wangtec driver under BSD... 

Just how different are these QIC02's anyway?
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: 4.0, Low level IO and problems...
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:30:18 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

patbob@analog1com (Patrick White - SST) writes:
: In article <9208192524@umunk.GUN.de>, udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
: |> sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:
: |> : Undeletes are just too dangerous on Unix-type systems because it's too
[...]
: |> 
: |> There is a save way: substitue rm by a programm, which brings the file
: |> to delete into an archive (tar, zip, cpio or whatever). After that the
[...]
: 
: 	A faster and more efficient way is to have rm make a hard link to the
: file in a save directory before it unlinks it.  Much faster than copying bytes.
: 	Of course, need to make provisions for people removing files of the
: same name, and usually want a way to automatically remove old saved files when
: need the space on the file system.

This would be more efficient, but not faster from the sight of the user,
because if I would write such a rm I would spawn a background process which
does the job, while the rm command immediately returns.
With the links you'll have two problems:
1. same filename as you stated above
2. Coherent doesn't support cross-device links yet, so every user must have
   his own save directory.
Also the files which are removed should be compressed to save disk space.

: 	I see three ways to implement this:
: 
: 	1) write a new rm.  But this would only save files removed with it.

No problem, if the old rm isn't available.

: 	2) change the C library unlink() function.  Only things recompiled
: 	   with the new C lib will save files.

Greater problem, can't be done if you have all sources of the programs
which calls unlink().

: 	3) rewrite the unlink system call (ie. diddle in the kernel).  This
: 	   would give retroactive file saving to all binaries on the system,
: 	   but requires OS source.  However, doing this also would allow the
: 	   OS file system code to be modified to remove old saved files as
: 	   needed to reclaim filesystem space.

Can't be done by a user of Coherent, this must be done at MWC.
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From: karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Best news systems & readers enquiry
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 07:16:28 EDT
Organization: Karls Emergency Mailbox

oroger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth) writes:

....

> Okay...
> 
> I just spent a good deal of time getting all of GNEWS ported to
> work on Coherent 4.0.1.  It is a lot faster than the 286 version
> and I have kicked up the number of newgroups to 1024 (user
> configurable) and the length of the news.group.name to 60 (also
> user configurable).  I use TASSgn to read and It works great
> under 386 and is fast.  Yet all of this code is very small.
> 

My need is for a news system, which is also capable of serving other sites.
Is that possible with GNEWS? I actually follow news (since months) with
the WAFFLE Newsreader under DOS. So this is a statement AGAINST any
Coherent Newsreader! I did not spend 1/10 of the time I actually spent
for unseccesfull attempts with a Newssystem under Coherent.

Karl

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From: koning@koning.enet.dec.com (Paul Koning)
Subject: Re: What goes on here?
Reply-To: koning@koning.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Co., distributed systems architecture
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:24:02 GMT


In article <1992Sep2.063943.6548@news.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
|>Can anyone tell me what subject matter precisely is considered "proper" for
|>this newsgroup.  I would like examples of what would and would not be
|>appropriate.  The inappropriate example would like to be barely inappropriate
|>so I can determine the "breadth" of subject matter.
|>
|>cjl (DEC "iron" user)

There hasn't been all that much activity in here, but what I've seen includes
questions and comments about programs that run on RSTS; discussions of
RSTS features and internals; occasionally news about well-known people
associated with RSTS; and so on.

I'm hard pressed to think of examples of what would NOT be proper, other than
the obvious rules of civility.  I suppose advertisements for commercial
products might raise some eyebrows.  Apart from that, you might just post
what you sant to say/ask and trust that people will be restrained in their
reactions... :-)

	paul

Newsgroups: comp.os.rsts
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: What goes on here?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:39:43 GMT

Can anyone tell me what subject matter precisely is considered "proper" for
this newsgroup.  I would like examples of what would and would not be
appropriate.  The inappropriate example would like to be barely inappropriate
so I can determine the "breadth" of subject matter.

cjl (DEC "iron" user)

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: thor@arrakis.denver.co.us (Robert B. Hood)
Subject: Re: Saving large windows after graphics
Organization: Bob's Programming Paradise, Lakewood, CO, USA
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:35:27 GMT

In article <168529014.DIXONW@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu> DIXONW@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu (Bill Dixon) writes:
>
> [stuff about doing really neat things with WP5.1 in DV/X deleted]
>
>     The problem arises when I use the graphical view document option in WP.
>The view works fine but when I quit to go back to the WP editing screen my nice
>large window resolves back to a small (24x80) window in a different sized font.
>It is possible to resize the window manually, but WP fails to understand the
>new size and stubbornly uses only a small portion of the new window (the rest
>is simply black rather than the WP blue background). I have played a bit with
>some window size settings but have had no luck. Is there any way to preserve
>this large window after graphics? Thanks.

I'm not sure what the problem is, but I can tell you that the same thing will
happen in a DV 2.4 (classic?) window.  If you open a WP5.x window with the
rows/cols set to 50x80, WordPerfect will hum right along with that *until* you
use the graphical view of the document.  Upon returning, WP will only use a
25x80 portion of your large window.  That forced me to run WP in only a 25x80
window.

Really a pain in the configuration.  I don't know whether that is a bug in
WP or DV...

Bob
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: thor@arrakis.denver.co.us (Robert B. Hood)
Subject: Re: $50 X toolkits
Organization: Bob's Programming Paradise, Lakewood, CO, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:45:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.211112.527@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
>OK!	I won't pretend it was a downhill battle, but we've got a workable
>X11 toolkit for the GnuC compiler for 50 bucks (see the press release).
>
>
>Now it's your turn.  I want to see some blisteringly qool X applications
>turned out by this, one of the most gifted groups of hackers on the net.
>
>1, 2, 3, 
>	>>>>>>>>>>>> GO!
>

Thank you for your efforts, Gary, and for getting those people in the
towers to listen to us bitch about their marketing strategies.

I've trashed OS/2 after running it for a week (not aas impressed as I
thought I'd be), so now I'm going after DV/X to hook into our Iris
mini.

Again, you have my (and a great many others, I'm sure) gratitude.

Bob
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From: tgtbtk@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Toine Kuiper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: S3 drivers for DVX wanted
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:27:13 GMT
Reply-To: tgtbtk@chem.tue.nl

I just received Desqview/X with the LWP4DOS drivers but I really need
S3 drivers. I hate using X applications running in VGA mode on my new
S3 adapter and 17" Eizo (Nanao) monitor!!!
Any suggestions?


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: creider@taptet.sscl.uwo.ca (Chet A. Creider)
Subject: ansi and qemm (?) problem
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:35:43 GMT

Under dv, any program attempting to use ansi escape codes prints out
the codes themselves rather than their values. Examples of affected
programs: stevie (a vi-clone) if compiled to use ansi.sys rather
than bios, elvis (another vi-clone), nr (Allen Holub's nroff clone).
Can anyone help? I've tried both the dv-specific drivers in dansi.zip
and dvansi.zip from Simtel. Both simply crash the system. The machine has
a vga monochrome monitor with an Oak vga card. Here is the config.sys file:
	DEVICE=C:\DV\QEXT.SYS
	DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS EXCLUDE=B000-B7FF RAM
	device=c:\dos\ansi.sys
	shell=c:\command.com /p/e:512
	country=047
	buffers=20
	files=20
	break=on
The computer is a 386SX-16 with 2 Mb memory. 

Please send replies to creider@csd.uwo.ca or creider@csd.uwo.ca

Many thanks,

Chet Creider
From: ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: RBcomm beta available
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:12:38 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


Due to the continuing clamor for a new version of RBcomm, I've put up version
3.36 for anonymous FTP.  This version will be entirely unsupported and should
not be uploaded anywhere else.  There are still a number of features I want
to implement before calling the result 3.4, but I won't be getting to them
for a while....

It's on CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.222.173] in /afs/cs/user/ralf/pub (change
directories with a *single* command) as rbcom336.zip.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: burge@qdeck.com (Bill Burge)
Subject: Re: S3 drivers for DVX wanted
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:55:23 GMT

In article <tgtbtk.714846433@tb3.chem.tue.nl> tgtbtk@chem.tue.nl writes:
>I just received Desqview/X with the LWP4DOS drivers but I really need
>S3 drivers. I hate using X applications running in VGA mode on my new
>S3 adapter and 17" Eizo (Nanao) monitor!!!
>Any suggestions?
>
>

Video support in DVX is inherent within the server itself.  THere are 
no drivers.  At this point in time the server does not support the S3
chip.  It is becoming a popular chip and we are aware of the deficit
but a rewrite of the server is not in the near future.

Bill	burge@qdeck.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson)
Subject: Re: DV/X and X11 fonts
Reply-To: peterson@csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:31:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.043901.29231@cactus.org>, hen3ry@cactus.org (Henry Velick) writes:
	...
|> I suspect I speak for more than just myself when I urge you to post such
|> a program here, or in alt.sources.*, or some other likely spot on Usenet,
|> accessible to the poor unfortunates among us who lack ftp access. 'Twould
|> be, as they say in my country, rilly bitchin'.

  May I suggest comp.binaries.ibm.pc, a widely propogated group
dedicated to distribution of just such programs.  Of course the best
course of action would be for Quarterdeck to post the binary, to
eliminate any question of copyright violation!

|> \-- Henry Velick   \  Millions long for immortality, who don't know what   \

    Bob

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