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From: KOWIK@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU
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Subject: IN: ECONOMIC GROWTH
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:32:25 GMT
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FROM : BLOOMBERG
EOS          (XIN) NOV/17/92        09:30 AM

BBN 09:40 AM (XIN)-INDONESIA'S ECONOMIC GROWTH RATE IN 1992 SLOWS
                   DOWN

     JAKARTA (NOV. 17) XINHUA - INDONESIA'S ECONOMIC GROWTH RATE
IN 1992 HAS SHOWN SIGNS OF DECLINE, STATE MINISTER OF NATIONAL
DEVELOPMENT PLANNING SALEH AFIF SAID ME TODAY.

     THE MINISTER MADE THE ESTIMATION AT A WORKING MEETING WITH
THE BUDGET COMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES (DPR).

     INDONESIA'S ECONOMIC GROWTH RATES IN 1989 AND 1990 SURPASSED
7 PERCENT. THE GOVERNMENT IN 1991 PRACTICED TIGHTENING POLICIES
TO COOL DOWN THE OVERHEATED ECONOMY AND A LONG DROUGHT THAT YEAR
ALSO CAUSED A SHORTFALL IN PADDY PRODUCTION.  AS A RESULT, THE
ECONOMIC GROWTH RATE IN 1991 DECLINED TO 6.6 PERCENT.

     SALEH SAID IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO MAKE OUT EXACT ECONOMIC
GROWTH RATE OF 1992 AS THE YEAR IS NOT ENDED YET.  HOWEVER, HE
ESTIMATED THE GROWTH RATE OF 1992 WILL BE LOWER THAN THOSE OF
1989 AND 1990.

     THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT PLANNING BOARD OF INDONESIA
ESTIMATED THAT THERE IS A BRIGHT OF GROWTH IN THE AGRICULTURAL
AND GRAIN SECTORS THIS YEAR.  AND PADDY YIELD WILL PROBABLY
INCREASE BY THE GROWTH SPEED OF NON-OIL/GAS, ESPECIALLY
INDUSTRIAL COMMODITY EXPORTS WILL RISE UP.  THE EXPORT VOLUME OF
NON-OIL/GAS PRODUCT IN AUGUST THIS YEAR HAD FOR THE FIRST TIME
SURMOUNTED 2,000 MILLION U.S. DOLLARS.

     SALEH SAID INDONESIA IN 1993 WILL CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT
CAREFUL FINANCIAL AND MONETARY POLICIES AND DEREGULATION POLICY
SO AS TO STIMULATE EXPORTS AND ATTRACT FOREIGN INVESTMENTS.

     HE ESTIMATED THAT INDONESIA IN 1993 WILL MAINTAIN
COMPARATIVELY BIG ECONOMIC GROWTH RATE.

-0- (BBN) NOV/17/92      9:40 AM



... C.A. KOWIK
... KOWIK@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:12:04 EST
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Subject:      INA & HK: LIPPO -Indonesian- Bank

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* Message-Id:   <921116145634.202014bf@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU>
* Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:56:34 -0500
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* From: KOWIK@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU
* Subject:      IN: LIPPO

BBN 11/15 Cheung Kong Subscribes for HK$200 Mln Convertible Note in
Lippo

     Hong Kong, Nov. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Cheung Kong (Holdings), the
main investment vehicle of leading Hong Kong tycoon Li Kashing,
intends to subscribe in cash for a HK$200 million ($25.6 million)
convertible redeemable participating note in Hong Kong investment
company Lippo Ltd.

     In a statement announcing the provisional agreement, Lippo
said that if the note is fully converted into its shares Cheung
Kong's stake will rise to 12.61% of Lippols enlarged issued share
capital from 6.02% currently.

     The note is convertible at any time from the date of its issue
to Dec. 31, 1994 at a price of HK$2.75 per share, a discount to
Lippols share price of HK$2.90 at the close of trading in Hong Kong
on Friday, Nov. 13.  The note, which carries an annual interest
rate of 5.50%, can be fully or partially converted into Lippo
shares in HK$lo million minimum amounts.

     Cheung Kong has informed the Lippo board that it intends to
hold the note and its current stake as a long-term investment,
according to the statement.

     Lippo said issuing the note would further strengthen its
relationship with Cheung Kong and also enable it to take advantage
of investment opportunities.

     The Lippo statement said that the conversion price is subject
to adjustment, but it wasn't more specific.

     The note agreement is expected to be completed on Nov. 27,
1992.

     Lippo, which is controlled by Indonesia's Riady family, owns
majority stakes in newly listed banking group HKCB Bank Holding Co.
and real estate investment concern EIE Development (International).

     Its aftertax profit soared to HK$65.3 million in the first
half of 1992 from HK$7.3 million a year earlier.


... C.A. KOWIK
... KOWIK@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU


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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:51:42 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: PDP defends governor election move

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:30:52+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>

A Palang Dharma Party MP yesterday denied that his party was
overly enthusiastic about the gubernatorial election law.

Bangkok MP Chinawut Sunthornsima said in pressing the issue the
party was only trying to honour its election promise.

Mr Chinawut made the statement in response to Prime Minister Chuan
Leekpai's remark on Saturday, that the election of governors will
have to be carried out according to the democratic process, and
that the Government will not be able to satisfy those who are
overly enthusiastic about the issue.

Mr Chinawut said the PDP has no overly enthusiastic people in its
organisation.

The election of the provincial governors is something which the
country should be led to under the democratic development process,
the Bangkok MP said.

The PDP will continue with the campaign to seek the support from
Parliament on the issue even if no other political parties are
interested in doing so, he said.

Mr Chinawut said that he did not think the PDP was losing
political manner on this issue because the party had promised its
electorates that it would push for the governor elections if it
became a member of the coalition government.

"This was an issue in our election campaign and we will have to
honour it," he said.
From: ST101019@BROWNVM.BITNET
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Subject: Re: Singapore
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:33:57 GMT
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>Joseph Stimpfl writes that gross violations of human rights and repression
>of church workers, trade union officials, parliamentary leaders, journalists
>intellectuals and others in Singapore is simply "different" than the norms of
>western countries, that this is somehow the "Asian way" of doing things.  This
>is a rather grotesque and patronizing way of looking at "Asia under Asians" as
>Stimpfl presents it.  I would add that it sounds just a bit self-serving to
>offer such apologies and to implicitly suggest for his Singaporean benefactors
>that Amnesty International, the International Committee of Jurists and other
>organizations that have cited Singapore in frequent violation of basic human
>rights are to be regarded as "cultural imperialists."  Are you not aware that
>Singapore is a signatory to most of the international human rights concords in-
>cluding those of the United Nations?  Stimpfl, there is no question of your

Hmm, this is interesting. It's not clear who originated this thread, but
I'm most interested to find out more about these violations. Can anyone
post some hard facts on this?
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:51:49 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: Chinese delegation prepares Li Pen's VN trip

11/11

CHINESE DELEGATION PREPARES LI PENG'S VIETNAM TRIP

    HANOI, Nov 12, Reuter - A Chinese foreign ministry delegation is in Vietnam
this week to prepare for the first visit to Hanoi by a Chinese premier since
1971, Vietnamese officials said on Thursday.
    No date has been set for Li Peng's visit. Diplomats expect him to arrive in
Hanoi in early December.
    The Chinese delegation arrived in Hanoi on Monday and left on Wednesday for
the southern commercial centre, Ho Chi Minh city, the Vietnamese officials said.
    Vietnam was relieved to normalise relations with China in November 1991
after more than a decade of tension that followed a brief but bloody border war
launched by China against Vietnam in February 1979.
    Its incursion was in retaliation for Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia in
December 1978, when Vietnamese troops overthrew a brutal Khmer Rouge government
that was backed by China.
    Bilateral disputes this year over sea and land territory, and oil drilling
rights have strained the newly normalised relations between Hanoi and Beijing.
    Vietnamese officials expect Li's visit, which would be the first to Vietnam
by a Chinese premier since Chou Enlai came in 1971, to pave the way for closer
political and economic ties between Asia's two largest communist countries.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:40:06 -0600
From:         Max Becherer <becherer@SUNA0.CS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VI: VN-CAMBODIA

   Interesting, I don't hear many Vietnamese cheering Mr. Trocki on.  Could
it be that his views are not very popular among Vietnamese people ?
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:31:11 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      MY: Email addresses (fwd)

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Subject: E-Mail adds. for universites in Malaysia.
From: thtee@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:48:19 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks


Here are some addresses for universities and colleges in malaysia.
I got this add from person who incharge Rangkom in Malaysia.
So,I believe these are the correct addresses.

Organisation                     Major Host        Department/Location
============                     ==========        ===================
University of Malaya (UM)        umvax.um.my       Engineering Faculty
                                 ccvax.cc.um.my    Computer Center
University of Science (USM)      cs.usm.my         Computer Science Dept, Penang
                                 kcp.usm.my        Engineering Faculty, Perak
                                 kb.usm.my         Medical School, Kelantan
University of Technology (UTM)   elek.utm.my       Engineering Faculty, KL
                                 utmjb.BITNET      Campus in Johore Bahru
Universiti Utara Malaysia (UUM)  utara.uum.my      Computer Center
National University (UKM)        eng.ukm.my        Electronics Engineering Dept
                                 fsmk.ukm.my       Computer Science Dept.
MARA Institute of Technology
        (ITM)                    cs.itm.my         Computer Science Dept
                                 engr.itm.my       Engineering Dept
University of Agriculture (UPM)  ece.upm.my        Computer & Comm Dept
M'sian Inst of Microelectronic
        Systems (MIMOS)          rangkom.my
ASEAN Inst of Forest
        Management               goya.aifm.my
Standard Industrial Research
        Institute of Malaysia
        (SIRIM)                  sirim.my


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From: ppc1@CEC2.WUSTL.EDU (Peter Pui Tak Chiu)
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Date: 18 Nov 92 23:01:49 GMT
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dear netter,

i got the following list of addresses for institutions in malaysia
but i none of them is known host.  that is, every time i try fingering
the address, i will get an error message.  the following is an example:

% finger @umvax.um.my
unknown host: umvax.um.my

can anyone tell me why?

thanx a lot...

peter

this is the list i have:

Organisation                     Major Host        Department/Location
============                     ==========        ===================
University of Malaya (UM)        umvax.um.my       Engineering Faculty
                                 ccvax.cc.um.my    Computer Center
University of Science (USM)      cs.usm.my         Computer Science Dept, Penang
                                 kcp.usm.my        Engineering Faculty, Perak
                                 kb.usm.my         Medical School, Kelantan
University of Technology (UTM)   elek.utm.my       Engineering Faculty, KL
                                 utmjb.BITNET      Campus in Johore Bahru
Universiti Utara Malaysia (UUM)  utara.uum.my      Computer Center
National University (UKM)        eng.ukm.my        Electronics Engineering Dept
                                 fsmk.ukm.my       Computer Science Dept.
MARA Institute of Technology
        (ITM)                    cs.itm.my         Computer Science Dept
                                 engr.itm.my       Engineering Dept
University of Agriculture (UPM)  ece.upm.my        Computer & Comm Dept
M'sian Inst of Microelectronic
        Systems (MIMOS)          rangkom.my
ASEAN Inst of Forest
        Management               goya.aifm.my
Standard Industrial Research
        Institute of Malaysia
        (SIRIM)                  sirim.my
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:48:22 -0500
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: No trace of downed plane

11/17

Still no trace of missing Vietnamese plane

    HANOI, Nov 18, Reuter - Four days after a Vietnamese plane with 31 people
on board went missing, rescue workers have still found no trace of wreckage, an
airline official said on Wednesday.
    The Soviet-made YAK-40 plane went down in a typhoon minutes before its
scheduled landing at the southern resort town of Nha Trang on Saturday after a
flight from Ho Chi Minh City.
    The plane, with 16 Vietnamese and six crew, also carried four Taiwanese, a
Briton, a Frenchman, a Swede and two people from the Netherlands.
    The Vietnam Airlines official said search teams were flying over the
mountains in that coastal area, while other teams were searching on the sea and
roads.
From: tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM (Nhan Tran)
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Subject: NEWS/VN: VN will cooperate ...
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:33:53 GMT
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USA TODAY Update
Nov. 17, 1992

VIETNAMESE WILL COOPERATE:
   Vietnamese officials, eager to mend ties with the United
States, pledged to cooperate fully with three U.S. senators who
are in Hanoi Tuesday. The senators are seeking information on the
fates of more than 2,000 Vietnam War-era MIAs. Sen. John Kerry,
D-Mass., is leading the trip.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:04:53 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: CHalard sues all in May incident

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:13:23+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>

POLITICAL activist Chalard Worachat is threatening to take legal
action against everyone involved in the May unrest, including
Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai and himself.

Palang Dharma Party member Pichet Pattanachote will call on Police
Director-General Pol Gen Sawasdi Amornvivat today to ask police to
take legal action against both sides involved in the unrest from
May 8 and 24.

Mr Pichet said he and Lt Chalard, who took many people by surprise
when he survived his month-long hunger strike during the unrest,
will try to prove that "the people can still depend upon the
process of justice".

Nobody should be made an exception, he said.

The two said those who should be charged for inciting the public
to rebel against the government of then-prime minister Suchinda
Kraprayoon include Lt Chalard, New Aspiration Party leader
Chavalit Yongchaiyudh, PDP de facto leader Chamlong Srimuang,
Solidarity Party leader Uthai Pimchaichon and Democrat Party
leader/Prime Minister Chuan.

Others who could face similar charges are Confederation for
Democracy leaders Dr Sant Hattirat, Weng Tojirakorn, Somsak
Kosaisuk and Prateep Ungsongtham, and ex-Student Federation of
Thailand leader Parinya Tewanarumitkul.

On the other side, those who should be charged over their
heavy-handed crackdown on demonstrators are deposed premier Gen
Suchinda, ex-Army chief Gen Issarapong Noonpakdee, ex-First Army
commander Lt-Gen Chainarong Noonpakdee and every member of the
Cabinet of the day.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:05:55 EST
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      TH: Praman's name to King

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:18:53+0700
From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>

JUSTICE Minister Suvit Khunkitti said yesterday he had submitted
to Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai the Judicial Commission's proposed
appointment of Pramarn Chansue as the Supreme Court president.

The Prime Minister will seek royal approval for Mr Pramarn's
appointment, he said, adding that he also informed Mr Chuan the
proposed appointment of Mr Supradit Hutasingh, a leading dissident
judge, as the new justice permanent secretary.

Mr Suvit said he did not expect any problem concerning Mr
Supradit's proposed appointment, claiming that this was an
administrative post.

He insisted that the choice of Mr Supradit was in accordance with
seniority, capability and knowledge.

Mr Suvit said it was not unusual for Mr Supradit to have received
quick promotions under the current Government because he has long
been given important and responsible role and duty in the
ministry.
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:58:21 EST
From:         "Vel J. Suminguit" <ANTVJS@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Illegial logging in Asia

The text about "Illegal Logging in Asia" was truncated.  Can the sender resend
the complete text. Can you indicate your address where I can contact you
privately?  I am interested about the issue of deforestation.

Thanks,

Vel
Dept. of Anthropology
University of Kentucky
ANTVJS@ukcc.uky.edu
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:09:00 EST
From:         GSUSSMAN%EMERSON.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Singapore

Re Kang Woo's comments on Singapore, I would like to point out that my earlier
criticisms of the Singaporean government's human rights policies were in the
context of listing single party states that do not have good human rights
policies, but which nevertheless receive little or no attention in the American
press or in White House briefings.  I did not say that Singapore was among the
worst in this regard as Kang Woo seems to read it, but to suggest that it is
illogical, and I would suggest irresponsible, to defend attacks on human rights
as "the Asian way" as one anthropologist proposed or to argue that criticism of
such regimes constitutes "cultural imperialism".  Kang Woo is understating the
dissatisfaction of Singaporeans, because in fact large numbers of Singaporean
middle class have left the island for Australia, Canada, the U.S. and elsewhere
in part because of the absence of political and intellectual freedom.  I believe
that the more affluent people become, the greater the demand for intellectual
freedom (multiple parties, multiple press, tolerance for varying lifestyles, etc
I do not think that the STraits Times stranglehold on the press in Singapore is
regarded by most educated Singaporeans as a price worth paying but that keeping
quiet about it is better than paying the price of criticism.  Kang Woo would
know about or should know about the periodic uses of the ISA (by the way, an
institution not or Asian origin as my anthropologist colleague may imagine, but
of the British colonial regime) and the uses of physical and psychological
torture to extract confessions of church workers (named by Lee as "marxists")
televised "confessions" (reminiscent of Stalin's show trials) and repression
of the Singaporean media and the exclusion of several western media (inclu.
Time, FEER, and others).  Kang Woo is being too apologetic for the regime in
his attacks on FEER.  That HK pub. was among the only ones bringing out the
story of the repression and manipulative political tactics of the Lee govt
to keep opposition voices in Singapore quiet.

It is certainly true that Singapore is the 2nd most affluent country in
Asia, and that raises the obvious question of why it still behaves (the
govt that is) like it's still coming out of the 19th century.  Who is the
great enemy.  Many believe it's just a smokescreen to suppress liberal
reforms (the way McCarthyism functioned to suppress liberals under the guise
of looking for communist subversives). GS
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From:         "(Coban Tun)" <tun@QUARK.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      KAREN GROUP DENIES ATTACK THAT KILLED 10 THAIS

RTw  11/11 0034  KAREN GROUP DENIES ATTACK THAT KILLED 10 THAIS

    BANGKOK, Nov 11, Reuter - Karen rebels, who are seeking autonomy in Burma,
on Wednesday denied involvement in an attack near the Thai-Burmese border that
killed six Thai border policemen and four wildlife protection officers.
    The Karen National Union (KNU), which has been fighting Rangoon for
decades, said none of its fighters was involved.
    "There are no KNU troops around the area and the nearest KNU base to the
said area is one day's walking distance through deep jungle and high mountains,"
said a statement issued in Bangkok by the KNU's Foreign Affairs Department.
    Anan Anantakul, permanent secretary in the Thai Interior Ministry, blamed
Karens for the Monday attack, but declined to speculate on the motive.
    Six policemen were killed at a border patrol base near Umphang, 300 km (190
miles) northwest of Bangkok, as were four wildlife protection officers staying
at a house attached to the camp. The camp was burned to the ground.
    "The area is inhabited by ethnic Thai Karen, a tribe called Talarku, which
has close relation with the Communist Party of Thailand," the KNU said. "The
tribe is hostile to the KNU."
    The virtually defunct Thai communist party used to operate in the area.
    Karens live on both sides of the border and usually enjoy good relations
with Thai officials.
    Earlier this year, Burmese soldiers in hot pursuit of ethnic rebels crossed
into Thailand and clashed with Thai soldiers and police near Umphang.
    Karen fighters, strongest of a dozen ethnic minority armies fighting
Rangoon, roam freely back and forth over the Burmese-Thai border.
 REUTER KC JXK JS
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