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From: wallen@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Mark R. Wallen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Help with CAP 6.0-pl100 on Ultrix 4.2a
Keywords: AARPD aarp
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:04:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Hello again.

I'm attempting to run CAP6.0-pl100 on a DECstation 3100
running Ultrix 4.2a. I have the 2 kernel patches
(pfilt.o and net_common.o that one of you gracious folks
sent me) installed. And I have configured for Ethertalk
Phase 2. Things *almost* work in fact, I thought they
were working. Here are the symptoms.

aarpd and atis start okay. And I can run aufs. The aufs
server shows up in the chooser and I can attach to it
and open volumes. Wonderful. However, after I close
the aufs volume and wait. Then the DECstation server
no longer shows up in the chooser. If I look at Ethernet
traffic using (the *very* handy) apm tool, what I
see is the DECstation AARPing for the Mac's address.
And the Mac giving an AARP response right back. But
the DECstation apparently fails to get it, because it
generates another AARP request ad naseum.

However, if I run MacPing (which generates a bunch of appletalk
ECHO packets) on my Ethertalk mac, then the DECstation
aufs server shows up and everything works. If I wait
(until the arp entry times out, I guess), then it now
longer shows up in the Chooser, and we're back to the
AARPing game.

What have I misconfigured/not done?

Thanks (in advance) again

Mark Wallen
Cognitive Science, UCSD
mwallen@ucsd.edu


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: westgate@lmig.com (Greg Westgate)
Subject: Using SLIP to RS6000 from a mac
Originator: news@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Reply-To: westgate@lmig.com (Greg Westgate)
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:20:07 GMT

Has anyone used the TCP/Connect II slip protocol to call an RS6000? How do 
you do it? I am looking for a method to dial into our internet from a mac. 
Any suggestions or places of reference?


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: weverka@csn.org (Robert T. Weverka)
Subject: CAP on SUN - how do I print to UNIX printer from mac.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:11:09 GMT


My unix buddy is installing CAP on the 
Sun, so I can print from my ethernetted
Quadra to the unix side printer.  Can we install some subset
of the CAP or do we need to do it all?

Do we some software for the Mac side?

-Ted
From: sbk@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Network software
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:09:00 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

I would like to put in another plug for EtherPeek.  It is a gorgeous product. 
I have been running it for a bit over a year -- on 1.5.x now -- and have had no
crashing problems.  Can't vouch for the earlier versions of the product.

My chief complaint is incompleteness of the protocol decodes.  RIP, for
instance, or much of Novell's NCP.  Just received improved versions of the
Novell decodes, though; will bench them against my Sniffer later this week.

Netminder (Neon Software) is another nice product.  Interface is not as clean,
but it offers additional capabilities -- easier filtering, for instance.

--sk

In article <1992Aug31.221106.9396@gordian.com>,
johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki) writes: 
> In article <1659@shaman.wv.tek.com>, andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner) writes:
>>> EtherPeek - AG
>>
>>This is a protocol snooper.  When it works, it's quite good.  A big win
>>is that you can examine old packets while continuing to gather new ones.
> 
> Yes I agree! And it's much better at decoding Appletalk than Network
> General's sniffer. But then Sniffer is much better at TCP/IP and
> LAT...
> 
> 
>>
>>When it doesn't work, it's horrid.  It has crashed on me more times
>>than I can count.  I've learned to save important packet traces to disk
>>before trying to examine any packets.
> 
> Make SURE you have the latest version! I've been using EtherPeek
> constantly for 1.5 years now and I've seen it evolve from a pretty
> buggy peice of software into a very stable (for the Mac at at least)
> system. I'm running 1.4.2 and it hardly crashes. The folks at
> the ag group are pretty good via e-mail, BTW.
>>
>>Its major design flaw is that it can't distinguish PAP from ASP from ...
>>packets on its own, but requires the user to select a decoder.  You
>>must make this selection *each* time you click on a packet; it has no
>>memory of what protocol layer you're working with.  Competing products
>>handle this much better.
> 
> They are working on this for the next release. They are going to fix
> the 'resize the packet decode window on each new packet' problem too.
> 
>>
>>  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
>>                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
> 
> 
> 		-John Kalucki
> 		johnk@gordian.com
> 
Xref: sparky comp.protocols.appletalk:3223 comp.dcom.modems:12690
From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ARA vs. Shiva NetModem
Date: 28 Aug 1992 21:27:49 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Aug28.181716.23706@phri.nyu.edu> roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
>	Given the same raw bit rate (say, 14,400 bps), is there any reason
>to believe that either ARA or using a Shiva NetModem in remote dial-in
>(bridging) mode will give better performance than the other?

One might suppose that dial-in is not doing any compression above the
960 cps rate, but ARA is doing V.42bis.  Theoretically it should be
faster, but I only have one 9600 modem besides the NM/E, and ARA wont work
going out through it, so I can't test that fact.

>roy@wombat.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
-- 
Darren Dunham                 		          add@is.rice.edu
MicroConsultant                       		  Rice University
(What is that? A small consultant?)	              Houston, TX
Any resemblance between real opinions and my post is coincidental
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: billt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Bill Tierney)
Subject: Re: Installing CAP on RS6000
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:39:24 GMT


Sorry, I am new to both CAP and this newsgroup.
I am trying to setup CAP on a RS6000 3.1.5.  I am able to get
appleshare working although my users have problems when
folders containing subdirectories are dragged to the trash and
emptied out.  It removes the files but not the directory itself
until the next time the trash is emptied.

My real problem has to do with the printshare.  I am trying
to print ascii file to the postscript printer.  I have set
up printcap and cap.printers and the atlooklws can find them.
I am also able to use lwpr and specify the exact name and it 
works.   My problems is with setting up the queues on AIX.

Does anyone know the queue/devices values that are needed in 
SMIT to make this work?  

Again, sorry if this is not the place for this question.

Thanks

billt@aldus.stanford.edu


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: LanRover/L For Sale
Keywords: LanRover LanRover/L Shiva ARA
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:06:44 GMT

I have for sale one brand new, in box, never opened LanRover/L. No, it is
not stolen. In fact, I won it, but I don't need it. What I need is some
new furniture! 

No, I'm not looking to trade my LanRover/L for your old couch. I want
cold, hard cash (well warm, soft cash will also do just fine). I haven't
set a price yet. If you're interested, find the best street price (not
hot) you can get and I'll beat it. 

Please keep in mind that I'm in Vancouver, Canada, so to avoid Customs
hassles, I would rather sell to someone in Canada. 


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: Re: CAP6.1 and Publish and Subscribe
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:40:08 GMT

In article <SANDY.92Aug28130057@beeker.cs.umass.edu> wise@cs.umass.edu writes:
>We are running CAP6.1 on a DECstation 5000/Ultrix 4.2 and have

CAP6.1?  Last I checked the highest version was 6.0pl125.

>found that edition files are unusable if placed on server volumes.
>Attempting to subscribe to or view the edition results in an error.
                                                           ~~~~~~~~
What was the error?  I just tried it, and I did _not_ get an error...
rather, it failed silently.  I.e., I managed to subscribe to an edition
on a CAP volume, but the edition was empty.  However, when I tried the
same thing with both the publisher and the subscriber on the same
machine (but the edition still on a CAP volume), it worked fine.

This leads me to believe that the problem is with the fact that if
the Publisher and Subscriber are on different systems, they are referring
to the directory which contains the edition with different dirIDs.

The failure of CAP to conform to the AFP requirement that dirIDs be
constant and unique throughout the lifetime of the volume (filesystem)
appears to be breaking several recent features of the Mac OS: definitely
aliases, probably publish & subscribe.  I would say it is time to rethink
this functionality... anybody working on that already?  I've browsed the
code, and it sure isn't going to be trivial, no matter what scheme is
used.  I'm tempted actually to go ahead a simply use inodes, thereby
complying with the "constant" requirement, but probably breaking the
"unique throughout lifetime" requirement even more thoroughly.  Still,
I think this might not actually be so bad, since inodes are only re-used
after a file is removed anyway, so the only time that the Mac should get
a dirID that no longer points to the right directory is when the right
directory no longer exists.  Given that, what is the worst thing that
can happen?
--
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Academic Systems Consultant  |     Bitnet: JBotz@mhc.bitnet
Mount Holyoke College        |      Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: Some interesting AUFS problems
Organization: AS&M Inc
	<JAAPJL.92Aug26170100@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov>
	<BtMKs1.2JI@mtholyoke.edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:02:36 GMT

In article <BtMKs1.2JI@mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
   In article <JAAPJL.92Aug26170100@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov> jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap) writes:
   >Our evidence seems to indicate that AUFS doesn't deal with NFS-mounted
   >filesystems.  Our workarounds have been to start AUFS on every system
   >that a Mac user has files on, or to move all the Mac users' home
   >directories to one system, which then runs AUFS.  We'd also be interested
   >in any fixes for AUFS for NFS.

   Well, why doesn't it work?  Where does it fail?  It has worked for me,
   although I didn't test it extensively.

That'll teach me to assume that when an application fails on one
system, it'll fail on another. :-)  Under SunOS 4.1.1, AUFS says the
NFS-mounted volume is locked.  But it works under Ultrix 4.2A.  And
I had not gotten around to testing the latter.

Thanks for the sanity check, and the other posts about SunOS patches
and 4.1.2.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
From: bwild@fzi.de
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Multiple Sockets
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:44:36 GMT
Reply-To: bwild@fzi.de
Organization: FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik, Karlsruhe, Germany

I installed CAP pl100 on my NeXT. After the installation phase I started and  
killed the aufs process 3 or 4 times each time changing the naming of the name  
the CAP server should be seen in the Mac chooser panel (-n option).
But even after a reboot of my CAP host, the old names didn't disappear from the  
chooser panel although their processes are gone for a long time.
Does the aufs implement a socket in the KIP box and do I have to reboot this  
box, too, in order to make the obsolete server names disappear from the chooser  
panel?


Bernd Wild

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Bernd Wild                                       
Forschungszentrum Informatik FZI
Dept. Technical Expert Systems and Robotics
Haid-und-Neu-Strasse 10-14
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email: bwild@fzi.de
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From: cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: AppleTalk Update-based Routing Protocol
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:58:35 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <BtJHDy.6zt@signet.com> wilson@sigma7.signet.com (Wilson E. Sawyer) writes:
>On my "Inside AppleTalk" poster, I see a box entitled "AppleTalk
>Update-based Routing Protocol". Can someone tell me the status
>of this protocol? Is it in use? Planned? Published? Obsolete?
>
>Thanks
>- Wilson Sawyer
>  wilson@signet.com

	Not in use yet.  Yes, Apple IS planning on it.  There will be a
	demo at Interop this Fall.  The spec has been published for quite
	some time.  You should be able to get it off of ftp.apple.com, or
	AppleLink.  Obsolete?  It's not in any shipping product yet, so it
	may be quite premature to say that...

	Chris


---
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Internetworking Products Division
Novell, Inc.  San Jose, CA
(408)473-8667  cranch@novell.com
I may work for Novell, but I don't speak for them...
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: pgreen@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Philip Green)
Subject: MACs printing to Unix host via CAP
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 20:08:52 GMT

I have a Solbourne running CAP[pl100], how does one setup 
printing so the MACs can print to printers that are attached
to other unix hosts?


-- 
Phil Green                           	pgreen@aoc.nrao.edu
NRAO					505.835.7294
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: bryan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Bryan Manske)
Subject: Re: Would like some help with CAP6.0lp100
Reply-To: bryan@pi.UUCP (Bryan Manske)
Organization: EAI, Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:54:18 GMT

In article <KEEPER.92Aug31221109@lighthouse.caltech.edu> keeper@lighthouse.caltech.edu (Lighthouse Keeper) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.162754.22461@news.iastate.edu> bryan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Bryan Manske) writes:
>   My problem is in basic CAP setup.  In other words, setting up the 

>If you are running CAP 6 with patch level 100, then I believe that you
>simply can't do what you want to.  I think that if you read the
>documentation carefully, you will see that UAB has only been ported to
>Suns and Ultrix machines, and not to SGIs.  Once more, UAB currently
>supports ethertalk phase 1, and system 7 and I would guess the assante
>card come with ethertalk phase 2, so you would have to find a phase 1
>driver for your board.
>
>I hope this helps, but I realize that it will probably just frustrate.

>          keeper@lighthouse.caltech.edu       Steven Fought


Hey,

What'da'ya'know.  It works.  Nice too.  Still working on a few problems
with printing though.  Sincere thanks to a couple of very tolerant
individuals who offered priceless information.  You know who you are...


Now then,

I've heard rumblings about CAP6.1, or at least CAP6.0pl125 in various
nooks and crannies on the net.  Would anyone have more information about 
what sorts of additions/fixes have been included in the new distribution?


Thanks again.

Bryan Manske


-- 
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Engineering Animation, Inc.         . 
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#include <caveat_opinion.h>         . 
#include <standard_disclaimer.h>    .                         Me.
From: Richard.E.Brown@dartmouth.edu (Richard E. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Network Utilities, which are good?
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:29:55 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0d56@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Folks:

A quick note about MacPing (tm), a package we developed to troubleshoot
our 130-zone AppleTalk network here at Dartmouth. We're now marketing
it commercially. A demonstration version is available on
dartvax.dartmouth.edu, in the /pub/mac directory (it's
MacPing2.0.3DEMO.sit.hqx). The enclosed README gives instructions and
other information.

Rich Brown                    E-Mail: richard.e.brown@dartmouth.edu
Manager of Special Projects   AppleLink address:  A0183
Dartmouth College             Telephone: 603/646-3648
Kiewit Computer Center        Fax: 603/646-2810
Hanover, NH 03755-3523 USA         
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Subject: Re: Getting printing from mac to Sun working
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:11:09 GMT

In <42213@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> jst@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Julian Turnbull) writes:

>In article <ROUILJ.92Aug24115418@dl5000.bc.edu> rouilj@dl5000.bc.edu (John P. Rouillard) writes:
>>
>>  %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: setdefaulttimeouts ]%%
>>  %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%

>The trouble is that "setdefaulttimeouts" changes a persistent parameter of
>the printer (i.e. it will stay changed after the current print job ends).
>The printer only allows that if it's preceded by
>"serverdict begin <your printer's password> exitserver".

The prep file I looked at only executed  "setdefaulttimeouts" if the current "waittimeout"
was less than 300 seconds. The default on most printers will be 30 seconds.
Changing this default to 300 bypassed the problem.

... Richard
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: yost@adobe.com (David Yost)
Subject: AppleTalk on UNIX TLI
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:29:08 GMT

The only TLI implementation of AppleTalk on unix
is the one done by Pacer.  Does anyone know of any others?

 --dave yost
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: webster@bnr.ca (Brent Webster)
Subject: AUFS questions
Reply-To: webster@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:35:15 GMT

1/ Is there anyway to disable the displaying the UNIX dotted files
   (e.g. .resources, .finderinfo, etc) when the Mac users mounts
   an aufs volume?  

2/ Here's an exempt from the AUFS.1 man page but when I look at the
   "LOCAL  CONFIGURATION section (below)", there's no mention of it.
   
>     The system administrator can also configure AUFS to look  in
>     UNIX  files to determine file type and provide either alter-
>     native finder information or  text  translations.   See  the
>     LOCAL  CONFIGURATION section (below) to see if this has been
>     done.

   My aufs server is read-only and most the documents are from Framemaker.
   I would like these UNIX created Framemaker documents to be launchable
   with a double-click from any Mac.  

   Could I manually update the .finderinfo and .resource directories?
   If so then how?
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu (BATES, ROBERT PATRICK)
Subject: Hooking a PC into an AppleTalk Network
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:43:00 GMT

Howdy!  I'm new to the group, and was just wondering if anyone knew of a quick 
'n' dirty way to patch a PC into an existing AppleTalk network.  The situation 
is that our dorm has some Macs running on a homemade ATalk network running 
AppleShare (?), but they would be willing to install TOPS if it would make 
things any easier.  I do know that there is a BIOS vector in PC's that is 
addressed by ATALK.SYS and used by TOPS, but have no idea as to where/what/how 
to secure hardware to make the connection as another node to the network.

Thanks bunches!

==============================================================================
Robert Bates                        Disclaimer:
rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu                   "I make no claims..."
Texas A & M University
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: jcistern@lascar.puc.cl (Jorge Cisternas)
Subject: CAP: ethertalk on ULTRIX 4.2A
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:59:40 GMT

Hello!
	I'm stalling CAP 6.0 on an ULTRIX 4.2 with ethertalk, but it has
many problems while compiling aarpd. Isn't there any patch that solves this
problem?
	
	Jorge Cisternas M.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: PCNFS : how to print from PC->Sun->Mac printers !!!
Originator: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:10:09 GMT

We have our printers connected to the Mac network.
I use CAP to print from Sun to Mac printers. Today
I have installed PCNFS and would like to know
if I can print from PC to those Mac printers via
Sun ? When I try to configure the printers using
PCNFS on the PCs it says it can't find the printers.
Please respond by email.

thanks


-- 
B.G. MAHESH                           | Email : mahesh@evb.com
Software Engineer                     |         
SETT Inc. (Affiliated to EVB Software Engineering, Inc.)
Frederick MD
From: sbk@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Hooking a PC into an AppleTalk Network
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:19:32 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Depends on what you want to do with the DOS box once it is on the net.  But the
basic idea is as follows:  buy a LocalTalk card for the PC, install it, then
buy Farallon's PhoneNet Talk (which is the AppleTalk protocol stack for DOS). 
Install it on the PC.  This would allow you to log into AppleShare file servers
from the PC and to print to AppleTalk-compliant printers on the net (like
LaserWriters).  The full AppleTalk stack takes ~190K, so I hope you have a 386
with memory management (file services takes about 100K, I forget exactly).

--sk

In article <1SEP199216431380@zeus.tamu.edu>,
rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu (BATES, ROBERT PATRICK) writes: 
> Howdy!  I'm new to the group, and was just wondering if anyone knew of a quick 
> 'n' dirty way to patch a PC into an existing AppleTalk network.  The situation 
> is that our dorm has some Macs running on a homemade ATalk network running 
> AppleShare (?), but they would be willing to install TOPS if it would make 
> things any easier.  I do know that there is a BIOS vector in PC's that is 
> addressed by ATALK.SYS and used by TOPS, but have no idea as to where/what/how 
> to secure hardware to make the connection as another node to the network.
> 
> Thanks bunches!
> 
> ==============================================================================
> Robert Bates                        Disclaimer:
> rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu                   "I make no claims..."
> Texas A & M University
> ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk