HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rec@aim.com (Bob Cousins)
Subject: Re: What is AIM stand for ?
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:47:08 GMT

In article <BuC4Lo.2nC@nntp-sc.Intel.COM> jwreilly@mipos2.UUCP (Jeffrey Reilly) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.172252.18615@aim.com> rec@aim.com (Bob Cousins) writes:
>>
>>AIMs is a measure of peak performance--the ability of the system to handle
>>a multitasking load consisting of a standard mix of common operations. 
>
>What is the standard mix of operations and how was it derived? 
>
>Jeff
>
>Jeff Reilly			Performance Benchmarking And Analysis
>jwreilly@mipos2.intel.com	Intel Corporation
>(408) 765 - 5909		Santa Clara, California

Our Suite III (Multitasking) benchmark is a highly programmable
package which allows the tester great freedom in choosing the actual
mix of operations.  Many of our customers choose to alter the standard
mix (see below) and instead use a mix which they feel is more
appropriate for their own purposes. The results of these certified
tests are presented to the client in a formal report format similar to
the Aim Performance Report, but clearly marked as using a specific,
non-standard, mix or model.

However, for the Aim Performance Report (the first page of which is
published in the Price Performance Guide), to guarantee an
apples-to-apples comparison, we use the following mix for the Suite
III run:

	20% main memory
	10% fp (single and double)
	20% integer
	10% IPC
	20% function calls
	20% disk I/O
       ----
       100%

This mix has been in use for more than two years and has proven to be
highly satisfactory. We arrived at this mix by working with our
customers, some key industry experts and consultants. Amazingly, we
reached consensus on this mix quite quickly. (Some vendors have their
own agendas which can make consensus slow or impossible to reach.) The
long life of the mix can be attributed to the fact that the
Performance Reports have been shown to accurately reflect the relative
performance of machines in the field.

BTW: The Aim Performance Report also contains the results of the Suite
II (Subsystem) benchmark. These results catagorize key system
performance areas including filesystem, kernel operations, function
call processing, integer and floating arithmetic of the various sizes
and key memory operations.

The Performance Report also contains results from Milestone, our utilities
benchmark which simulates interactive users running shell commands. However,
some vendors choose not to run this benchmark as a portion of the Performance
Report certification. This results in a "Utilities Missing" message on the
front page of the report. Other vendors choose not to support all of the
required commands. If the vendor chooses to run Milestone yet for some
reason Milestone cannot complete (buggy or missing commands, etc.), the
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Robert Cousins                    rec@aim.com                  (408)748-8649x212
Consultant to Aim Technology                          Speaking for myself alone.
From: cb@wixer.cactus.org (Cyberspace Buddha)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Latest FBI Wiretap Bill
Date: 5 Sep 92 09:04:24 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <1992Sep2.203514.22239@mp.cs.niu.edu> rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:
>>The government expects that this process will 
>>be accomplished by the government. 
>
>Imagine.  You can give them encrypted
>data with no algorithm and no decription key, and, no matter what, they
>(the government) will reconvert the message to its original form.
>
>Wow!  These guys should start a late night TV comedy show.
>

Possible _Sneakers_ spoiler follows:

Imagine that.  a Black Box that would make such decryption feasible
<possible> is the object around which the intense part of the plot of
Sneakers whirls. *very* good movie BTW, IMhO.  Many thanks to the good folks
at SJG that kept the list of folks that wanted to go see the Sneak preview.
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Want _Your_ Blood to
Organization: Advocates for Self-Government - Davy Crockett Chapter
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:00:32 GMT

mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
: In <2151.110.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us> david.brooks@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Brooks)  writes:
: 
: >   What you are saying, in effect, is: given a choice, people will not
: >   support their government. I would think that in itself would constitute
: >   more than enough reason to close them all down. Any "service" currently
: >   provided by the government could also be performed by a free economy,
: >   and probably at a decent profit too. Your "cops and roads" argument
: >   just dosn't hold any water!
: 
: No, what he is saying, in effect, is that for those things which they
: could use if someone else bought them, many people will not chip in
: 'their share'.  A study of the concepts of 'externality' and 'public
: good' would seem to be in order.  This is the biggest whole in the
: whole libertarian economic argument.
: 
: [See any reasonably decent economics textbook.]

Are you talking about the "free rider" problem?  This is dealt with in
several books.  One example is that if my wife grows pretty flowers,
should the neighbors be forced to pay for her labor since they enjoy
them?  The answer is that this is not only silly but it would be immoral.
Other examples are torn apart, such as the lighthouse example.

I do not remember the sources for these, but I think they came from a
speech I heard economist Walter E. Williams give.
: 
: -- 
: "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
:  in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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: Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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"Freedom seems to have unleashed the  creative energies of the people -- and
leads to ever higher levels of income and social progress."  --  U.N. report
From: Brian.Lane@p0.f162.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: 1913 Income Tax Amendment
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 10:51:12 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/162.0 - Callahan's Place, Ashford WA

In a message of 05 Sep 92  04:20:52, Ron Dippold wrote:

RD> This was posted a while back by someone on the net.  I don't have the
RD> attribution, as my original file got trashed along with some other
RD> valuable stuff, this is from a reply :(.

  Thanks *very* much for the info.  I couldn't remember the names of the people who were doing the research.  I heard an interview with "red" several months back where he talked about it.

    -Brian


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From: brendan@cygnus.com (Brendan Kehoe)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ON-LINE
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:34:12 GMT
Reply-To: brendan@cygnus.com
Organization: Cygnus Support, Palo Alto CA; Phone +1 415 322 3811
In-reply-to: Claude.Vanhorn@f69.n104.z1.fidonet.org's message of Thu, 03 Sep 92 19:53:17 PST

In article <21778.2AA9BC4B@puddle.fidonet.org> Claude.Vanhorn@f69.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Claude Vanhorn) writes:
	 A.    The Congressional Record is produced by a team of tran-
	       scribers onto computer terminals in a federal office or
	       offices.  These parts of the record are then assembled
	       (again in a computer or computers) into the full document
	       which is then printed as the paper version of the Congres-
	       sional Record.  The computer files which are an individual
	       issue of the Record are then stored away, archived for
	       future reference for a period of time - after which they
	       are erased.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it's already in electronic form (do
you believe the US Printing Office keeps all of that camera copy on
hand?).  The task is the legwork involved in coercing those who can,
to make it available in some orderly fashion.

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Cygnus Support, Palo Alto, CA                                  +1 415 322 3811
                       Oooh! A handsome stranger! And me, without my shoes on.
                                     --The Princess, The Emperor's New Clothes
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From: fpm@crash.cts.com (Frank Maclachlan)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.bsd,gnu.misc.discuss,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi
Subject: 386BSD lockups caused by ULSI 387 coprocessor
Summary: ULSI 387 coprocessor can lock up!
Keywords: 387,ULSI,lockup
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:21:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd
Distribution: na
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

Ever since I upgraded the motherboard in my 386BSD 0.1 system from
a 386/20, 64 kb cache, w/ 4 mb of memory, no 387 to an OPTi chipset
based 386/40 w/ 64 kb cache, ULSI 387 coprocessor, and 16 mb of ram,
I experienced occasional lockups.  The system would simply freeze
and I had to hit the reset button to recover.  These lockups were
traced to my ULSI 387 math coprocessor.  I wrote a simple test program
which computed sin(5.0) in an infinite loop; this would lock up an
otherwise idle system after 4,000 to 150,000 iterations.  I then
modified npxprobe() in /sys/i386/isa/npx.c to not find the 387 and
the problem went away.

I called ULSI and was told that they were aware of the problem (they
had seen it on an SCO Unix system).  It seems that the ULSI part gets
into a state where its BUSY output to the 386 is permanently asserted
and the system locks up.  The person I talked to suggested that I ex-
change the ULSI 387 for a Cyrix equivalent.  I called my vendor and
got an RMA to return the ULSI part in exchange for a Cyrix 387.

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From: Brian.Lane@p0.f162.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Want _Your_ Blood to Boil too?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 12:04:40 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/162.0 - Callahan's Place, Ashford WA

In a message of 28 Aug 92  23:22:55, Ron Dippold wrote:

RD> >Why can't I just walk into your house, put a gun in your face, and take
RD> what
RD> >I like with impunity, because tax dollars pay for police to protect you.
RD> 
RD> Law enforcement!  One of the few legitimate functions of government,
RD> but nothing that needs income tax for funding.  

  And what's law enforcement going to do about this problem?  Clean up the mess AFTER he shoots you!  LA showed that people have to trust in themselves, not in some large government that'll tuck 'em into bed every night.

RD> >Taxes  are the dues you pay to society in return for all the benefits you
RD> >recieve. 
RD> 
RD> It's protection money.  If taxes were _really_ in return for all the
RD> benefits I recieved from it, they wouldn't need to make it
RD> involuntary.  I'd gladly pay for what I used.  Nor do I even want 99%
RD> of the "benefits" I recieve.

  Yep, just a large sized Mafia.  At least with the Mafia you know what you're paying for!

RD> >If this still doesn't appeal to you, then you are free to leave, I think 
RD> >there are still some choice parcels of land in Antarctica that you can
RD> >get where no government will steal your money.
RD> 
RD> "America!  Love it or leave it, hippie scum!"

  Don't you just love these 'Free to leave' folks?  Agree with us or get out they say.  The Greeks had their lead pipes to bring them down, we have our top-heavy bureaucracy bringing us down.

    -Brian


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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: taxes, theft, police, etc.
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:25:24 GMT

In <1992Sep8.163829.26922@tijc02.uucp> pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt) writes:

>pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt) writes:
>: ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor) writes:
>: : pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt) writes:
>: : 
>: : >The
>: : >great depression of the 1930s happened after the U.S. government removed
>: : >the dollar from the gold standard.
>: : 
>: : That is not the usual view.  The Great Depression is normally
>: : considered to have started in 1929.  Roosevelt took the U.S. off the
>: : gold standard in 1933.  England and some other European countries had
>: : already abandoned the gold standard, in 1931.
>: : 
>: Sorry.  I did this from memory.  Thanks for correcting me.  Sometime about 
>: 15 years before the depression, the U.S. Government did something major.
>: I thought I remembered it as taking the currency off the gold standard.
>: It evidently was something else.  When I get a chance I will look it up,
>: or maybe you know what I am talking about.

>The event that I was thinking of was the formation of the Federal
>Reserve System in 1913.  This led to monetary policies that contributed
>to the depression and the length of the depression.  Sorry for the
>mistake.  I did not mean to misinform anyone as to the event.

Quite right.  In the monetarist view of the Great Depression, the
thing that made it as deep and as long-lasting as it was was the fact
that the Fed contracted the money supply by something like 25%.  This,
of course, reined in the economy even harder; not something you really
need to do in the middle of a major recession.

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 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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From: mcmanus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Pat McManus)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: GATEWAY/WINDO ALERT
Date: 15 Sep 1992 15:58:19 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Sep15.043900.14611@news.acns.nwu.edu> learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.013639.5084@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Joe Francis writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep14.233719.9972@news.acns.nwu.edu>
>>learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk) writes:
>
>>> This is the point, Joe. The people at the EFF office seem to have
>>> lost sight of some real basics.
>
>>Hmmm.  In the past I have found that the people at EFF have been very
>>good at "the basics".  Rita and others at EFF have always answered my
>>questions and responded to my suggestions.  I have every reason to
>>believe that someone at EFF will answer the question to my
>>satisfaction. 
>
>That's very nice, Joe. But have you considerd the elementary problem
>at play here? The thread discusses some bills before Congress, and
>asks us to write to the congresscritters without telling us anything
>substantive.


This is not completely true. The posting asking for your support did
provide a means for obtaining the complete bill(s) through e-mail. I
for one was pleased the EFF brought it to my attention, and sent for
the complete text. After that I will make my decision and maybe that
will lead to a letter to my Congressman (who is on the appropriate
committee.)

-Pat


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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: comp.org.eff topics (was: something about taxes, etc.)
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:19:31 GMT
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Originator: rita@eff.org

In article <i906143@pro-harold.cts.com> dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green) writes:

>For the benefit of newcomers such as myself and the members of Pro-Harold (my
>BBS), what are some _normal_ comp.org.eff topics?

	Comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated group, which means that
people can pretty much talk about anything they darn well please
without interferance from us.

	However, we hope that people will use the group to talk about
the sorts of issues the EFF addresses.  Such as civil liberties with
respect to comptuters, privacy issues, universal access issues,
telecom legislation, etc.

	I've noticed that most threads eventually devolve into debates
over libertarianism for some reason.




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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ON-LINE
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:44:30 GMT

In article <21778.2AA9BC4B@puddle.fidonet.org> Claude.Vanhorn@f69.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Claude Vanhorn) writes:
>            2)    Mandate that every publicly accessible comput-
>                  er network provide a quantity of node connec-
>                  tions to this computer so that any person
>                  accessing the network would be able to type "C
>                  RECORD" or some simple identifier and be
>                  connected to this archive.  The FCC could
>                  mandate this, though I suspect the networks
>                  might actually cooperate without it.

I don't care for this sort of government interference.

Here's another alternative: simply publish the CR on CD-ROM, through the
usual low-cost government publication channels. Then sit back and watch
the fun.
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                         Have you hugged your wolf today?        'U`

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From: Wes.Perkhiser@ivgate.omahug.org (Wes Perkhiser)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Are you sure UNIX is a trade mark?
Date: 09 Sep 92 03:39:20 CST
Reply-To: wes.perkhiser@ivgate.omahug.org
Organization: 
Followup-To: comp.org.eff.talk

In a message of <08 Sep 92 17:24:55>, John Bruner (11:30102/2) writes:

 JB>(From: bruner@sp15.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Bruner))
 JB>(Organization: CSRD, University of Illinois)
 JB>
 JB>because it is a widely-recognized name.  "Kleenex" is almost certainly
 JB>a more widely-recognized name than "UNIX", but it is still a
 JB>registered trademark of Kimberly-Clark.

Hmmm.... I thought "Kleenex" was the bug-free version of Unix.  


Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,talk.politics.misc,alt.society.civil-liberty
From: wcs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs)
Subject: Re: taxes, theft, police, etc.
Organization: Politics: from (poly == many) + (ticks == blood-sucking insects)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:18:23 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc,alt.society.civil-liberty
Keywords: Death, Taxes, Not comp.org.eff

We're not really talking about comp.org.eff topics any more.
Please follow-up to move this discussion to talk.politics.misc or
alt.society.civil-liberty. 

In article <5258@airs.com> ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor) writes:
]That is not the usual view.  The Great Depression is normally
]considered to have started in 1929.  Roosevelt took the U.S. off the
]gold standard in 1933.

True, though that contributed to the slowness of the recovery,
as did *most* of the economic meddling that the Democrats and Republicans did.
What annoys me most about the change from the gold standard isn't just
the government saying "We're not going to give you gold for Federal
Reserve notes any more, but trust us anyway" - that only ripped off
people who used government-issue money - but they made it illegal for
anyone to compete with them by continuing to use real gold money,
and forced people to accept this new counterfeit paper instead of
still-legal silver.
-- 

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From: Joe.Francis@dartmouth.edu (Joe Francis)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: GATEWAY/WINDO ALERT
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:43:51 GMT
 <1992Sep14.182756.4007@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a4@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I'm confused.  First I see an article from someone who is not speaking
for EFF, then I see the article echoed by someone who does speak for
EFF, but with no further explanation.  Am I to take it that EFF agrees
completely with Mr. Love's evaluation and recommendations?  If so,
would someone at EFF please say so?

Apologies if EFF has already made this point clear; I must have missed
it.

Thanks,
Joe Francis
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ON-LINE
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:15:08 GMT

In <21778.2AA9BC4B@puddle.fidonet.org> Claude.Vanhorn@f69.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Claude Vanhorn) writes:


>                  A PLAN TO MAKE THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD PUBLIC

>1.    The Congressional Record is the only non-partisan party-neutral all-
>      inclusive record of the speeches, committees, and activities of
>      Congress (America's elected representatives).  As such, the content
>      and form of the Record belongs to the people, and should be available
>      to them in a form that invites ready research and complete availabil-
>      ity at any time.  It should be available nights, week-ends, holidays,
>      any time a citizen wants to see a speech, opinion, vote, the text of
>      a bill, or any other thing published there.

Frankly, I'm not sure what you really want here is the Congressional
Record.  It does not necessarily, after all, reflect anything that
actually happened in Congress.

First, let's get some changes made to the rules under which it is
produced (no more reading in of things that never actually happened,
etc.) and THEN try to get it made available.  Until its contents
reflect reality a little better, is it really that useful to the
typical American?

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 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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