HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tim2@taichitaichi.cc.bellcore.com (luken,timothy p)
Subject: Extra Tempe Tickets
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:31:50 GMT
Keywords: Tempe, Extra


By an overabundance of good fortune, we have 
two extra Tempe General Admission tickets
for each show.  If you would like them for
cost, just lem'me know.
Tim Luken

tim2!taichi.cc.bellcore.com

PS.  My e-mail has been flaky lately, so 
you could also call 908-846-1072 after 
about 7pm EST, if e-mail bounces, or if
you don't hear back from me.

PPS. I believe that GA tickets are also still 
available directly from Dillards.
From: mac@sequent.com (Cormac Burke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: >>Question<<
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:58:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov18.235846.606
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov18.212902.43829@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi) writes:
>
> the question:  is it legal to sell a ticket for face value or less than face
> value or can you only sell it for like 2 bucks legally?

I'm pretty sure that the laws governing this vary with location. My
brother in law was at a ball game in LA (Anaheim stadium?), and he and 
his pal realized they BOTH had tix. They decided to sell one of the pairs. 
Turned out that they tried to sell them to an undercover cop (at cost),
and he was arrested for selling tickets on the site of the event. 
Cormac
-- 

Cormac Burke 				
Sequent Computer Systems
mac@sequent.com
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From: con@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Con_Falvey)
Subject: Seats Behind the Stage
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:15:05 GMT
Organization: MCI


Hi, 

I have a few questions about what its like to take
in a show from seats that are behind the stage (my
seats for Denver are behind the stage, Phil side 
lower section, both nights).  I've been going to 
shows since '79, but I've never had seats behind
the stage before (the scene wasn't as crowded then).

First of all, how is the sound?  If the sound is good, 
how do they get it there and mix it properly?  

Also, what can I expect to see from this vantage point?  
Is there anyone of anything I should look for or pay 
special attention to?

Does anyone out there have any good stories about sitting
behind the stage?

Please post any responses to r.m.gd as I'm sure others 
are in the same situation.

BTW, what happended to the JGB 10-31-92 tree?  

Thanks in advance for your response.

Peace, 

con.
con@apdev.mci.com
From: Eton Ben-Ami <ebenami@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:51 PST
Subject: Re: sunshine cartoons
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov19.143439.22884@uvaarpa.v:-1766107888:cdp:1456400100:000:77
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ebenami    Nov 19 18:51:00 1992


Don't hide your milk-bottle under a basket
Shine, shine, shine ....

-- Etan
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: freak tolerance
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:50:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

sheila,
i tried to em you but it bounced

please email me, i'd like to talk :)

peace
lara
-<-@
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From: dave5@bivalve.bellcore.com (Dave Ensign)
Subject: Re: WARNING !   FLAMEBAIT with minimal ODC  Read at your own risk!
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:09:06 GMT

ODC:  I'd love a "No Time To Hate" T-shirt.  Entrepreneurs, or non-profit
orgs, are you listening?

In article <1992Nov17.214016.8674@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet writes:
|>         And please, my fellow Deadheads, don't go off on a holier than though
|> flame rampage.

All right, as much as I want to I'll try to restrain myself.  But I have to
say that I'm really sorry you felt it necessary to introduce this litany of
stereotypes and misinformation onto r.m.g.

Oh, and you mentioned you work in a hospital.  I suggest you get some good
information about how AIDS is spread.  Walking into a bar will not put you
at risk no matter how many people inside the bar are infected with HIV.  You
would need to exchange body fluids (particularly blood/semen) with the
infected people.

|> In hundreds of BAY AREA shows, I have noticed that either
|> 1. Gays don't go to shows ( WRONG )   or
|> 2. They perceive the Deadhead crowd as being intolerant and unaccepting of
|>    their orientation.  So they go in stealth mode.
|> 

So, how do you think it feels to a gay person to wear his/her sexuality on
his/her sleeve.  It's not easy.  I, for one, don't feel particularly comfortable
with the idea of being out at a show.  I sure wish I could cuddle up with my SO
during the mellower moments, but my impression is that it's an invitation
for harrassment.  The dead community is not the diverse rainbow I would
like it to be, anyway.  Maybe it depends on the venue.

|> 
|> Peace ( Someday ? )
|> Gladstone>

Sure hope so,

Dave

-- 
(got to make myself a more interesting .sig)
************************************************************************
* David Ensign      Bell Communications Research  Piscataway, NJ       *
* (908) 699-8168    dave5@bivalve.bellcore.com    bellcore!navaho!dave5*
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From: ajax@well.sf.ca.us (Randy Alan Jackson)
Subject: Re: goodbye, too
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:52:44 GMT

	THIS IS A RENO POST:

In article <1992Nov18.214525.8032@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>
>THIS IS A WHEELIE'S POST:
>
>


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Subject: The music started...late
Reply-To: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:59:37 GMT

Rob mentions that people often cut out the noodling/pre-song
tune ups on tapes.  I rather enjoy those, because you can
learn from those how the boys set up and start a tune.  You
can hear someone strumming the same chords several times, and
then it's Bob counting 'eight, nine, ten' and Playing starts
instead.  Or the long noodling before the Set II Dark Star opener
during the Fall '92 Boston show...  

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From: geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Geoff Wells)
Subject: Oakland grovel
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 20:28:09 GMT

Well, I was turned down by Mail order,
Bass sold out Friday  Nite about 10 people too soon
I wont go without a ticket and I refuse to support any scalpers.

I'd like to score one of your Friday nite extra tickets
I'll pay all the costs associated with it.

Thats it! One for me on Friday only. It's that or none :-(

Email me
Thanks
  
geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
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From: dsle@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.s.lerner)
Subject: Re: more trippy cartoons...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:41:04 GMT


There used to be this cartoon that John Scher would play in between sets
of Jerry Garcia band and Grateful Dead at the Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ.
It had figures of raindrop people fighting lightning bolts and other antics.
I think it was called "The rainbow makers" or something. Anyway, it was in
black and white and the drops were very symbolic for the times (late 70s).
Drops were so prevalent during the 77-80 tours that it got dangerous to
drink from your own soda if you weren't holding it until you finished it.

Anyway, it always made me laugh and most of the crowd remained quite during the
cartoon. Does anybody know this one?


Dave
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From: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Subject: The war is OVER
Reply-To: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:55:30 GMT

        It started like this.  I get on the net and do some bitching about
things that upset me as a result of living in a gay ghetto.  Not out of
the blue, but I saw an opening during the Colorado thread.  Things began
escalating, as my opinions and limited perceptions came up against
several people who tried, some gently, some fiercly, thru email and the net,
to set me 'straight'.  I am one of those kinda people who is usually
always right, and I HATE to lose an argument.  Well, I was way out of
league.  This was not the argument where right or wrong has any meaning.
And it seems my experience was limited and underfed, to quote Joan Biaz.
It is very shocking to see just how wrong one can be about certain things.
Some have suggested I am hateful, some fearful, and others just ignorant.
( God, I hate being so wrong  Gulp. )  As I examine myself, I can say
Ain't no time to hate..'.  As far as fearful, I remember Jerry in an
interview saying America is racist and Xenophobic at it's core.
Fear of the OTHER, unknown.  Yeah, I guess it fits here, and it took a
lot of effort, mostly from Jean and David  ( you know who you are ) to make
me see this.  As far as ignorance goes, it seems I was full to the brim.
It took brave people sharing secrets of their lives to finally make me see
this.  I took a very small sample of the gay population and made a very
large and foolish extrapolation to the whole.  I am still convinced that
there are gays who would hate me if I were to enter their space, but
so what.  Thats their problem.  I cannot carry around such a burden.
I guess what I'm trying to do is apologize to the many silent ( and few vocal )
people whom I may have hurt or disparaged.  I will try to keep a more
open mind in the future, and hope this helps others from falling into the
same closed minded stance.  From what I have read, I know I will be
forgiven, as my errant attitudes have no doubt been dealt with before.

        So, to all of you who have had to endure this, I am going to
steal one of Lara's roses and offer it up as a final gesture of Peace.

-<-@    ( Just 1 )
Gladstone>  <GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET>    Case closed!
From: dittrich@carson.u.washington.edu (Dave Dittrich)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: WARNING ! FLAMEBAIT with minimal ODC Read at your own risk!
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:08:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov18.010858.13398
Organization: University of Washington

GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet writes:

>        First, let me say I know how it feels to be discriminated
>against for not being all of the following; ( you guess which )
>White, Anglo Saxon, Protestant, Heterosexual.
> ... [ stuff deleted ]
>1. Gays don't go to shows ( WRONG )   or
>2. They perceive the Deadhead crowd as being intolerant and unaccepting of
>   their orientation.  So they go in stealth mode.

I can't tell a gay by looking at one.  Can you?  Do they wear signs or
something?  I see alot of men huggin men at Dead shows.
Are they all gays? (no flames about "touch-heads").

If your not a bigot, you shouldn't see anything but a human being,
and there are plenty of those at Dead shows!

I've noticed that there are VERY FEW non-whites of any kind at Dead shows.
I and my friends have wondered what the reason is for this.  I don't see
Dead songs as being racially biased in any way, and the scene is extremely
tolerant and non-racially biased.  Anyone have any opinions on this
phenomenon?

Maybe I'm just color blind, too. :-)

"Ain't no time to hate."
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From: con@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Con_Falvey)
Subject: Lets Do Somthing About Amendment 2
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:55:41 GMT
Organization: MCI


Hi again, 

This occured to me while I was writting my last post, so
obviously its half baked.  Wwith 17,000+ deadheads in 
Dever on Dec 2nd and 3ed, has any rally/protest against 
Amendment 2 been organized?  I have not heard of any, but 
the opportunity to make a differance is there.  Denver is 
the capitol of Colorado and the State Capitol Building is
easily accessable.  I doubt that the legislature will be in
session, but individuals can make a point of visiting the
office of Govenor Roy Romer and the offices of state reps.
Also, several groups have used to steps of the Capitol 
Building to hold protests in the last year.  Can a 
'Ain't no time to hate' rally be organized for the day of 
Dec 3ed?  If a famous (or infamous) deadhead could lead 
such a rally, I'm sure the local media would cover the event.

Any other ideas out there?  Who's willing to organize? 
I'm just a sheep person waiting to be led.

Peace, 

con
con@apdev.mci.com

Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:01:59 -0500 
From: Stacy Kissel <sk2y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: got 3/20/92 hamilton 


I found someone to copy the show from.  Thanks to Chris, Brian, Jean,
and Frank!
peace, love, and grilled cheese sandwiches w/ tomatoes
-stacy  

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Subject: Bobby and the national anthem
Reply-To: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:04:22 GMT

        Hmm... Was it any better than Rosanne Arnold's attempt.
Whoops, I mean Rosanne Barr  ( Dump Tom, Rosy ).
Also, did he spit or 'adjust his equipment' like Rosanne afterwards?
Gladstone>
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From: jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Stratton)
Subject: Weather in Tempe
Organization: usd
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 04:43:01 GMT

A friend of mine is going to hit the Tempe shows, and wants to know what
kind of temperatures and weather to expect. Is it likely to be hot in
the day and cold at night?

Jerry Stratton
-- 
jerry@teetot.acusd.edu             GEnii: J.STRATTON6
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: *** Need 2 Miracle Tix to Dec 13 or 14th Show.  Pleeze! ***
Keywords: Show Tickets
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:40:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <lgo866INNdkh@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> dianes@sprocket.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>Hi,
>	I spaced and got the wrong kind of money order, which
>was rejected went I sent away for tickets...It's my birthday 
>that weekend, and I *really* wanna go, will pay $$$.
>Thanks, 
>-d
>P.S.  Any info about how I else I might try to get tix would be
>appreciated. 

Try BASS/Ticketmaster this Sunday morning, 11/22.  Note that the last couple
of times, the Dead's tickets have only been available at the outlets, not
through phone order.  Your mileage may vary.

George Lambert

"I need a miracle every day"
From: farrar@mailhost.adaclabs.com (richard farrar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Joe Hack's "secret invitation"
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:18:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov19.171836.12132
Reply-To: farrar@mailhost.adaclabs.com
Organization: The Internet

In article <75184@hydra.gatech.EDU>, rb45@prism.gatech.EDU (Barb) writes:
|> Joe Hack a Wheelie?
Nah, he's probably a Templar.
---
Richard Farrar		These views are my own, not my company's or country's.
ADAC Laboratories	"A man without hand is not a man."
farrar@adaclabs.com		- George Costanza, Seinfeld
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From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Wall Of Sound
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:18:32 GMT

Steven Ray Shaw writes:

|Does any one out in netland know what tour(s) the wall of sound was used
|on, and or any good tapes that have it? 

The Wall of Sound was used from 3/23/74 to 10/20/74. Many audience tapes 
from this time are mistakenly called soundboards because of the good
sound. 6/8/74, 6/23/74, and 10/20/74 are ones I can think of off-hand 
that have been called boards on someone's list but were actually aud.

-Jeff Lester
From: richter@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Jean Richter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: WARNING !   FLAMEBAIT with minimal ODC  Read at your own risk!
Date: 17 Nov 1992 23:19:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu
Summary: we're here, we're queer, and we're Deadheads

So, with a subject line like that, why the hell did you post it here?

In article <1992Nov17.214016.8674@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet writes:
>
>        [tons of misinformation and homophobic diatribe, which I 
>         won't dignify by responding to - followup in 
>         alt.politics.homosexuality or somewhere if you feel it
>         necessary to start the inevitable flamewar]
>
>        And please, my fellow Deadheads, don't go off on a holier than though
>flame rampage.  In hundreds of BAY AREA shows, I have noticed that either
>1. Gays don't go to shows ( WRONG )   or
>2. They perceive the Deadhead crowd as being intolerant and unaccepting of
>   their orientation.  So they go in stealth mode.
>
>        If you can't be as wierd as you really are at a SHOW, the paragon
>of wierdness and acceptance, then where can you go ?
>
>Peace ( Someday ? )
>Gladstone>

Funny, in the 14 years that I've been going to shows in the Bay Area and 
elsewhere I've never once been hassled for being openly lesbian (and
that includes some pretty unsubtle public displays of affection).
Dead shows are by far the most gay-tolerant mainstream concerts I've been to
(except maybe for Melissa Etheridge shows :-) 

Gayfolk are there, and they're not all in stealth mode. Maybe you don't
notice them if they don't fit your ridiculous stereotypes?

One more thing - gay is an adjective, not a noun.

So, who's making up those pink-triangle stealie shirts? :-)

Jean Richter
richter@hera.Berkeley.EDU
ucbvax!hera!richter
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From: neacy@atomic.phy.ilstu.edu
Subject: hi
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:15:26 GMT
Reply-To: neacy@atomic.phy.ilstu.edu
Organization: Illinois State University

i'm fred and i am new on the net. tell me all about it please.
any coorespondance would be appreciated.
thanks 
fred
From: ajs@jloda.cci.com (Alan Sodoma)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Are you bummed that there is no NYE sh
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:42:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov19.004225.25159
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet

In article <1992Nov17.005731.5919@newsgate.sps.mot.com> you write:
|An east coast NYE at MSG would be hot!  Even if it doesn't sail,  an extra 4 days

All rumors of any MSG NYE shows can be dispelled.  Michael Bolton is 
booked there that night.  I learned this from the Springsteen mailing
list.  There was also a rumor that Bruce would be there, too!

Al Sodoma
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: New Context Dead
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:03:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.212653.10744@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>you too?  
>
>I was in Safeway (supermarket) of all places and the music
>was real quiet.  As I walked down the aisle, I would go under
>a speaker and hear a few notes.  I thought I recognized the
>tune that was playing.  Pretty soon I found myself running
>from speaker to speaker so that I wouldn't miss any of it.

Puts a new reflection on stop and go shopping, wish I'd been there
to videotape it we might have won $100,000:-)

And Steve you'd better get your copy of Neil's new christmas album
before leaving the country there may not be any left when you get
back:-)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: mlaurenc@world.std.com (Matt Laurence)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: PhishNet T-Shirt Update
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:47:32 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

First of all, I just finished a LARGE Phishnet Shirt
update and was about to post it when my system froze,
so I lost everything. The gist of it wasL

1) All 1992 orders are out the door - look for them in the
next couple of weeks. And keep 'em coming, coz there are
still about 30 Xl and 5 XXL 1992 shirts left, still just
$14 including everything!

2) The 1993 shirt is making it's first pass at the 
printer this week, for color correction and separation.
Next it goes to the typography house where films will 
be made, then back to the printer for screens, and 
soon into your hot little hands!

3) 1993 shirt Pre-orders have been going great, and PLEASE
keep them up. This shirt is more complex than last years,
and will be more expensive to produce as well. And since
I have to pay all costs up front, any up-front help from 
the soon-to-be-shirt-wearers is helpful. They're $15 each,
plus $2 if you are out of the US and $1 for XXL, and send
any orders to: 

Matt Laurence 
11 John Poulter Rd.
Lexington, MA 02173

  They should be done about Dec. 9th or so (the same day Omar
Saeed is playing the Middle East Cafe for you lucky 
bostoners!)

4) For those who don't know, the Phish Net T shirt is designed
to help net-pholks locate each other at shows, gatherings, or
in any large crowd situation, and to generally show appreciaton
for the band and your extended net.family! Since everyone here
is a member of that family, it is good to know a sympathetic
and phriendly face when you see one! The 1992 shirts are almost
gone (no calls have been made for reprints, so unless I hear
soon, there won't be one), but the 1993 shirt is underway and
promises to be even bigger than last years, since so many 
great new pholks have climbed aboard! I'll post another 
description of it at a later date, but rest assuredm, it is
even more colorful than last years. I'm still working on how
to do it on something other than white... results to come.

5) EDWARD J. RAYMOND - please contact me. You should have your
shirt by now, but there was a problem with your check. Drop
me a line - your net addres was not on the check.

Well, that wraps up the latest Phish Net Shirt update. Deep
an eye out (uh, that's KEEP an eye out... damn fingers...)
for more as it develops.

Oh, and one more thing...

SEE BELA FLECK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt
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From: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Subject: bobby and the mids video
Reply-To: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:04:02 GMT

MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com writes:

| I bought this video tape myself.  I don't find myself watching video that
| much.  I think I've only watched it once.  The audience at this show was
| pretty tame :-O.  Security gave a few of the upfront folks a hard time
| for dancing if I remember correctly :-O.  The cover on the video tape,
| what can be said.  I'm ashamed to show my friends :-O :-O :-O.

Bobby & The Midnites - Bobby & The Midnites (VIEW Video Catalog, 34 East 23rd
	Street, New York, NY 10010, (212) 674-5550 or (800) 843-9843, 1991) a
	1984 performance from Switzerland, filmed using seven cameras and
	recorded in stereo sound.  The video includes: "Festival" (5:13), 
	"Youngblood" (3:22), "Me Without You" (4:57), "Salt Lake City", "Easy
	To Slip" (6:23), "Bahamas Mama" (7:09), "I Found Love" (7:30), "Book of
	Rules" (4:14), "Drums Galore" (2:24), and "Josephine" (6:39).  The
	band personnel are:  Bob Weir (guitar and vocals), Billy Cobham (drums),
 	Dave Garland (keyboard and sax), Bobby Cochran (guitar), and Alphonso
	Johnson (bass).

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