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From: walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk)
Subject: Re: 486SXs as Unix Iron?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:38:16 GMT

mramsell@gandalf.ca (Mark Ramsell) writes:
>The 486sx chip, in it's original form, is not half the size of a 486dx!

I know this, but I was talking about NOW, not 3 years ago.
Right NOW the sx takes up less than half the chip space than the dx
does (loses the coprocessor and a smaller line width).

>The sx included the math coprocessor but had it disabled.  The sx was
>a marketing ploy by Intel.  I have no idea why they did it but that's
>what happened.  Recently Intel has finally pulled the coprocessor out
>and is NOW seing the cost savings you are referring to above.  They
>are able to put the new 486sx chips in a plastic package because of

Oops... I forgot about the dx's being in a ceramic pack.
However this gives another reason for the sx being a good buy.

>the reduced heat they don't generate.  That also makes the packaging
>cheaper, ie not _constant_.  The sx might be a deal if it is priced at

Packaging is a constant in the price of the chip.  It's just a
different constant for the sx and dx.

>less than half of the dx.

>What I want to know is why?  Why did Intel do such a silly thing?  Didn't
>they realize that people would see through this ploy?  Maybe they were
>trying to see how many new customers would fall for this new _deal_.

>One final note.. Watch out for the systems that let you expand your 486sx cpu.
>This requires you to put a whole new processor in.  Why didn't you just
>purchase the better processor in the first place?  And btw, you don't
>get to take the old processor out and sell it to recoupe the cost of the
>new one.  The old cpu ends up being a space heater.  What a _deal_.  I
>hope some day Intel will let me pay even more money for less features.

>>The SX is a bargain, the 487DX is a rip-off.

>If you think so then buy it.  I'll buy the dx.

Right now I'm buying a 486SX/25 board for only $220.  It puts the sx in
a ZIF socket so you can remove it easily.  By changing some jumpers on
the board, you can insert in up to a 486DX2/66.  I get an initial low
cost and expandibility later if I need it.


					Todd Walk
					walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
From: pickrell@hoss.unl.edu (Andrew Pickrell)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Boot Manager for unix/dos
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:01:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu
Summary: Where can I find boot managers for Unix/dos
Keywords: boot manager,dos,unix

I am looking for a selection of boot managers for a unix/dos 386 system.
If anyone could point me to the right places I would appriciate it.
E-mail would be appriciated.

Thanks,
Andy

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: ghost@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Hartmut Kuehn)
Subject: need beginner info ...
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:18:20 GMT

Hi !

I want to buy a PC and hope to get some infos here ...

First, I don't want to use DOS but Unix (perhaps BSD or so)
as a cheap alternative to SUN Sparc (a complete Sparc workstation
 is yet out of reach).
Now I wonder what quality the DX-50, DX2-50 and DX2-66 (?) reached
so far and what experiences the people here have using a PC and
some kind of Unix with X11 (what exactly are the differences between
 the above DX's ?).
Did the new series of DX-xx reached a level of performance and
hardware, so that you can say, they are realy realible, or are
there still problems like chip-overheat, inconsistent hardware
or other ?

Ok, everybody using a PC will say, this is the best and don't want
to admit some weaknesses, but what I need is a objective kind
of view that gives me the chance to decide, if it's worth buying
a PC for main Unix-use, or wait till prices for SUN Sparc / Clones
decreaes, so that I can afford a workstation.

Thanks in advance

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From: rfauteux@orion.oac.uci.edu (Robert Fauteux)
Subject: Re: Sun 3/60 SIMMS in a PC?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:45:23 GMT

dharry@cyclone.rice.edu (Dennis Harry) writes:

>Does anyone know if the memory I took out of a couple
>of Suns (3/50 and 3/60) will work OK in a PC?  The size
>of the SIMMS (in Mbytes) is compatible with the PC requirements,
>but I wonder if the chips are fundamentally different.

     From my experience, the SIMMS used in a 3/60 are 9-chip 1x9 100ns
simms.  You can also use 3-chip standard 1x9 SIMMS that you would buy
for your PC, and they work fine (someone once told me that you couldn't
use the 3-chip style in a 3/60, but I can tell you that they work fine!).
By the same token, you can use those same SIMMS in your PC, provided that
you aren't running a high clock-rate (for 100ns SIMMS, I would imagine
they wouldn't be good for much over 16-20 MHz).  Last I checked, a
3/50 doesn't have any SIMMS (unless it maybe had some sort of memory
expansion board that allowed this -- the stock ones only had a 4MB 
memory farm).


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: russed@aix.rpi.edu (Daniel Russell)
Subject: Re: Unix on laptop pc
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:17:22 GMT

mjerosc@nmrsun.erenj.com (Michael Jerosch-Herold) writes:

>Are there any problems with running Unix on a laptop pc (386)?

>Has anybody on the net tried this and what is your experience?

	Try scanning comp.os.linux for 'notebook' or 'portable',
	some people have had success and problems.  Also scan the
	titles for META-FAQ- it's a good source of pointers.

>What ftp sites are there for linux?

	sunsite.unc.edu, tsx-11.mit.edu, nic.funet.fi, wuarchive.wustl.edu
	(mirrors tsx-11).

>What version of Unix is best suited for running on a laptop?

 dan
=====
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      <this spot vacant> (and I'm not just talking about between my ears)

>Michael Jerosch-Herold
>mjerosc@nmrsun.erenj.com
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: 386/33 DX machine: what unix options do I have
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:44:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <97543@netnews.upenn.edu> seetha@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Seetha Ayyalasomayajula) writes:
>folks,
>I have just bought a 386 machine and would like to run unix (i hate
>using dos). I considered SysV R4.2 but can't afford the $350 price
>tag? I don't care if the unix flavor is berkeley orSysV but would
>like the option of running dos applications under the unix OS.
>
>Any recommendation/suggestions much appreciated.
>
>Rao
>P.S; In your experience, is a 386/33 machine perform adequately, when
>     running unix?
>

I'm running Linux (at this very minute(!)) on a 386/16 laptop
(NEC ProSpeed 386). It performs *quite* well, thank you!


Steve
Xref: sparky comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:478 comp.os.linux:16895 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:30029
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.linux,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 486SXs as Unix Iron?
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:32:45 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <id.SGYU.X4L@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:

>In article <1992Nov11.204936.9751@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>> >The 486SX is a different die, cheaper process, cheaper packaging, and so
>> >on. It's a cheaper chip all around.

>> Is now; wasn't when they initially released it.  

>And you really think it's a good idea to set up a new fab line for a product
>before you know if it'll be successful, when you have the ability to test
>market it for a relatively low cost using untested or partially failed parts?

>Apparently you do.

I always love it when people tell me what I 'apparently' think; mostly
because they're invariably so laughably wrong.  What I think is that
the whole thing was a marketing scam and they shouldn't have built the
silly things in the first place.  Or if what they wanted was an outlet
for 'failed' DX parts, why the rearrangement of pinout and why the
silly games with the 487 parts?  And, if they wanted an outlet for
failed DX parts so badly, WHAT DO THEY DO WITH THEM NOW?

If they hadn't started out this stupid little game of trying to kill
competitors in the first place, they wouldn't have needed to set up a
FAB line, PERIOD.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: LINUX ??
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:33:21 GMT

vagle@hsr.no (James Bond) writes:

>What is this wounderful LINUX people are talking about ?
>I've heard it is free. (wow)
>Help please.                        Thank you.

UNIX-like OS developed by Linus Torvald.  Check comp.os.linux for more
details.

t.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: neil@stone.oz.au (Neil Watkinson)
Subject: Re: Sun 3/60 SIMMS in a PC?
Organization: Stone Microsystems, NSW, Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 06:48:48 GMT

>Does anyone know if the memory I took out of a couple
>of Suns (3/50 and 3/60) will work OK in a PC?  The size
>of the SIMMS (in Mbytes) is compatible with the PC requirements,
>but I wonder if the chips are fundamentally different.
>
I have recently installed 1M and 4M SIMS on a SPARCStaion IPC and a SPARC 2
and these are the same as I use on our 386 and 486 pc's. So assuming the size
and speed (check your pc's manual) are correct and they fit in the sockets they should work.

Neil....
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sysv386
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: PC-Clone UNIX Hardware Buyer's Guide
Followup-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:43:59 GMT

Followups to comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit, which has superseded
comp.unix.sysv386.

In article <1jWcGn#4fvVtm5Qb2WK1ZYkQn0Nhlpc=esr@snark.thyrsus.com> esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) writes:

>What's new in this issue:
>  * The 386 is history.
>...
>However,
>recent pricing moves by Intel have moved the price of a 486SX25 below the
>equivalent 386DX33 chip.  The 386 is therefore effectively dead for new
>hardware, and the 486SX/25 defined as the new low end (at least for the next
>90 days or so).
>...
>The 386SX machines were never a very good idea for UNIX; the 16-bit bus-to-CPU
>path can choke your throughput.  The 486SX is even worse, a stupid marketing
>crock with no technical justification whatsoever.

So, to recap:

The 386 is dead because the 486SX has been priced to beat it.  But
don't buy a 486SX because it's a piece of shit.  Where on earth is
that supposed to leave you?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: 386/33 DX machine: what unix options do I have
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:58:59 GMT

mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli) writes:

>What you really need to do is make sure you have enough memory.  I have
>run SCO ODT 1.1 on a 386/20 with 12MB, and it runs pretty well.
>Apparently ODT 2.0 is bigger, because this runs noticably worse on the
>same machine.  But a 386/33 with >= 12MB should serve you pretty well,

Maybe ODT 2.0 has everything turned on in the kernel when
shipped -- and you might need to remove or disable the drivers
which you are not running... SVR4 is that way -- and it was
possible here to reduce the kernel size by 30% after removing
the stuff we don't use..

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli)
Subject: Re: 386/33 DX machine: what unix options do I have
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:37:06 GMT

In article <97543@netnews.upenn.edu> seetha@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Seetha Ayyalasomayajula) writes:
>folks,
>I have just bought a 386 machine and would like to run unix (i hate
>using dos). I considered SysV R4.2 but can't afford the $350 price
>tag? I don't care if the unix flavor is berkeley orSysV but would
>like the option of running dos applications under the unix OS.
>
>Any recommendation/suggestions much appreciated.
>
>Rao
>P.S; In your experience, is a 386/33 machine perform adequately, when
>     running unix?
>
What you really need to do is make sure you have enough memory.  I have
run SCO ODT 1.1 on a 386/20 with 12MB, and it runs pretty well.
Apparently ODT 2.0 is bigger, because this runs noticably worse on the
same machine.  But a 386/33 with >= 12MB should serve you pretty well,
I'd think.
-- 
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From: fevava@sicsun.epfl.ch (Felipe VALENZUELA)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.cray
Subject: TeX runnnig on Cray-Unicos
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:30:20 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for Tex soft running on some Cray YMP.
Does anyone know who has compiled TeX for Unicos?
TeX is in Public Domain.

Thanks for reply.

Felipe Valenzuela
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
Computer Centre
Post Box 121
1015 Lausanne
Switzerland
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.cray,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.sgi
From: marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen)
Subject: Re: Cray to IEEE, IEEE to Cray
Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:42:46 GMT

In article <haberman.722017708@msi.umn.edu> haberman@s23.msi.umn.edu
(Joe Habermann) writes:

   Is there a tool for converting a file containing unformatted 64-bit 
   Cray floating point numbers into 32-bit IEEE floats and vice versa?

   I see that Unicos has a few routines for doing this (IEG2CRAY and
   CRAY2IEG) but I want the code so that I can compile it for various 
   machines.   

The NCSA HDF (file format) and DTM (network protocol) libraries have
routines that do this.  FTP to ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in /HDF and
/Collab/DTM for more information.

Marc

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.cray,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.sgi
From: haberman@s23.msi.umn.edu (Joe Habermann)
Subject: Cray to IEEE, IEEE to Cray
Summary: Tool needed to covert unformatted Cray floats to 32-bit IEEE floats
Keywords: ieee unformatted Cray SGI Sun
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:28:28 GMT

Is there a tool for converting a file containing unformatted 64-bit 
Cray floating point numbers into 32-bit IEEE floats and vice versa?

I see that Unicos has a few routines for doing this (IEG2CRAY and
CRAY2IEG) but I want the code so that I can compile it for various 
machines.   

Thanks,

Joe Habermann
haberman@msi.umn.edu
From: hideaki@ferris.cray.com (Hideaki Moriyama)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.cray
Subject: Re: C++ compiler for cray
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:50:02 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

Cray C++ Compiling System 1.0 Release Overview  (RO-5160 1.0)


1.  Introduction


Release 1.0 of the Cray C++ compiling system (Cray C++ 1.0) is based on UNIX
System Laboratories (USL) C++ Language System release 3.0.  Cray C++ 1.0 is
the first supported port of USL C++ to Cray Research computer systems and
contains several enhancements.

Cray C++ 1.0 supports all Cray Research computer systems running both UNICOS
6.1 or 7.0 and Cray Standard C 3.0 or later; we recommend running the latest
available revision of Cray Standard C 3.0 with Cray C++ 1.0.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.cray,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.sgi
From: dnl@convex.is.macsch.com (David Lombard)
Subject: Re: Cray to IEEE, IEEE to Cray
Keywords: ieee unformatted Cray SGI Sun
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:32:22 GMT

In article <haberman.722017708@msi.umn.edu> haberman@s23.msi.umn.edu (Joe Habermann) writes:
>Is there a tool for converting a file containing unformatted 64-bit 
>Cray floating point numbers into 32-bit IEEE floats and vice versa?
>
>I see that Unicos has a few routines for doing this (IEG2CRAY and
>CRAY2IEG) but I want the code so that I can compile it for various 
>machines.   

The intent is that the Cray handles the conversions to/from other
numerical/character formats.  If you're programming in Fortran, you
can do the conversions on-the-fly using normal READ and WRITE statements,
see (man assign).

Regards,
DNL

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.cray,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.sgi
From: bgitv@termo.unit.no (Baard Grimsmo)
Subject: Re: Cray to IEEE, IEEE to Cray
Keywords: ieee unformatted Cray SGI Sun
Organization: SINTEF, The Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 08:06:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.233222.26999@draco.macsch.com> dnl@convex.is.macsch.com (David Lombard) writes:
>In article <haberman.722017708@msi.umn.edu> haberman@s23.msi.umn.edu (Joe Habermann) writes:
>>Is there a tool for converting a file containing unformatted 64-bit 
>>Cray floating point numbers into 32-bit IEEE floats and vice versa?
>>
>>I see that Unicos has a few routines for doing this (IEG2CRAY and
>>CRAY2IEG) but I want the code so that I can compile it for various 
>>machines.   
>
>The intent is that the Cray handles the conversions to/from other
>numerical/character formats.  If you're programming in Fortran, you
>can do the conversions on-the-fly using normal READ and WRITE statements,
>see (man assign).
>
>Regards,
>DNL

You could also consult "man asgcmd"

Here is the text I have written in my print-file:
c +++ When runned on the Cray, the asgcmd command allows the user to
c +++ assign necessary file characteristics to the given output file.
c +++
c +++ The asgcmd command can be invoked from a shell using a function or
c +++ an alias.  asgcmd looks at the environment variable SHELL to determine
c +++ which format environment syntax to use.  A function for sh(1), ksh(1)
c +++ or bash would be:
c +++
c +++      % function asg { eval `/usr/bin/asgcmd $*` }
c +++
c +++ An alias for csh(1) would be:
c +++
c +++      % alias asg 'eval `/usr/bin/asgcmd \!*`'
c +++
c +++ hese can be placed in your .cshrc or .profile for command line use.
c +++ Bourne/Korn shell scripts using the asg definition will have to
c +++ include the definition.
c +++
c +++ Example:
c +++      % cat prog.f
c +++      program prog
c +++      open(9,file='result/out.dat',form='unformatted')
c +++      n=1
c +++      to=2.
c +++      write(9) n,to
c +++      end
c +++      % cf77 -o prog prog.f
c +++      % asg -F f77.nonvax -N ieee result/out.dat
c +++      % prog
c +++      % rcp reult/out.dat unixworkstation:out.dat
c +++
c +++ The out.dat file can now be processed normally on an unix
c +++ workstation by an unformatted read.
c +++
c +++ NOTE: The descriptions of the output file must be identical for
c +++ the program and the asgcmd command.
c +++ 
c +++ Example:
c +++      open(9,file='result/out.dat',form='unformatted')
c +++      % asg -F f77.nonvax -N ieee /usr/users/me/result/out.dat << wrong
c +++      % asg -F f77.nonvax -N ieee ./result/out.dat             << wrong
c +++      % asg -F f77.nonvax -N ieee result/out.dat               << correct
c +++
c +++ The shell variable of the example:
c +++   _ASG_FCHAR=result/ut.dat##-C 0105000000000000 -F 0904000000000000+ %
c +++ This variable is lost after logging out.
c +++


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.cray
From: yuri@amath.washington.edu (Yuri Yulaev)
Subject: docs about CRAY
Keywords: 
	does somebody know , where I can find docs about basics of CRAY.
Organization: University of Washington, Applied Mathematics, Seattle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:50:05 GMT

I just got an access to CRAY, but I'd like to know much more about software,
libraries, UNICOS and all this stuff. Yuri.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sysv386
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: How does a mortal become a UNIX WIZARD ?
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:38:47 GMT

In article <1jXG9Y#4gNr9z4Kf9KP7pcFqk7GFB9w=esr@snark.thyrsus.com> esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) writes:

>take as thy Travelling Companion
>the erratic but illuminating compendium called _The_New_Hacker's_Dictionary_.

Aka ftp.uu.net:/archive/systems/gnu/jargon299.ascii.Z.

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From: furrer@nieder.cica.fr (Marc Furrer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: twm delayed autoraise
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:54:16 GMT
Organization: Telecom Paris, France


Hello,

I'm using twm (tvtwm in fact) as window manager. I would like 
to have the delayed autoraise features like in motif.
What I mean by delayed autoraise is that if the pointer come across
a window it will raise up. But it will append only after a delay,
say a half second, to avoid all my window to raise, one after the 
other along the path of the pointer. If any patch fixing that exists,
please let me know. If possible reply by e-mail.

Thank you for any help.


			Marc.

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