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From: covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: the bible
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:55:39 GMT
Reply-To: covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici)
Organization: Covici Computer Systems
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24632

dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell) once wrote....
>Index Number: 22225
>
>If you have a genie account log on and type ibmpc.  Then type 3 for
>libraries, then type 6 for download.  Then type kv*.* when asked
>for the file(s) to download.  You need to have zmodem working on
>your computer, so hit 4 for zmodem to download the batch of files.
>I hope you have a few megs cleared on your had  hard drive.
>Unfortunately this is the King James version.

I think there is also one on exec pc bbs in Milwalkee Wisconsin
(414)7892210 and this is a nice bbs anyway.  As I recall the files
are bible*.*, but you can do a keyword search to find them.  I am
pretty sure you will have to subscribe to  download them.

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         John Covici
          covici@ccs.covici.com
From: Dick_Sobsey@psych.educ.ualberta.ca (Dick Sobsey)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Abuse
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:39:15 GMT
Reply-To: Dick_Sobsey@psych.educ.ualberta.ca (Dick Sobsey)
Organization: U of Alberta Abuse & Disability Project
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24582

The University of Alberta Abuse & Disability Project is conducting
research on physical, sexual, psychological, and other abuse
against people with disabilities. We are interested in hearing from
people with interest in this issue.This includes people with
disabilities who have been abused, researchers, and people working
in disability related services who have been aware of abusive
episodes. If you have any information on this topic or would like
more information about the project, please contact us.
From: Cindy.Barnes@f22.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Cindy Barnes)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Let's Get Started
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:05:28 GMT
Reply-To: Cindy.Barnes@f22.n375.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/22 - Ken's BBS, Montgomery AL
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24678

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 >But 6 more weeks and I will be fine:)  They are going to replace my husbands
 >other hip in about 2 more months, then mebe he will feel like a human being
 >for a while again.   How many people in the echo have the same feelings
 >about the caregive aspect of things?   When the caregiver goes down?
 ><curious>

Even when I was at my worse with the pain level I was not supposed to be
less than what I had been. I still had to be Mom, Honey, Mrs Barnes, the
teacher, and a full-time student. I had to be up at 5:45am to get the kids
off to school, clean the house, go to work if called, buy the gorceries, pay
the bills, run the errands, etc. This family would collapse if I were to be
hospitalized for any length of time. Ken's job keeps him busy with TDY's,
reports, etc. He comes home and all he wants is for me to fix dinner and the
house to be cleaned.

It wasn't until I had the mylogram in June and the doctor said surgery for
the next day that Ken realized just how serious a problem a had with my
back. It kind of scared him. Now that the surgery is over and the pain level
is down a considerable amount, he is back to before. He has forgotte that I
have limits now as to what I can do. He got upset one day because I told him
I couldn't go with him and the boys to the lake to ride around in the boat.
I had to explain to him what the bumping around in the water could do to my
back since the vertabrae haven't fused together yet.

The boys are just as bad. Mom is up and walking so naturally she can do
everything they want her to do. They are learning that I can't, but it is a
slow process. I guess I will have to be patient with them until they really
understand what is involved in the problems I have with my back.

Does this answer your question about others and caretaking? (grin)

Cindy

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From: Michael.Salonka@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Salonka)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jaws macros power users #2
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:06:34 GMT
Reply-To: Michael.Salonka@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24600

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

If you want to review the macro while in the revision window, press the
control shift and home key in order to move to the beginning of the macro.
Next, while holding down the control shift keys move left or right in the
window and review the macro.  When you move right, you should hear the
literals being spelled out and when you hear the "wait for enter" macro which
you inserted it will be spoken all at once.

If you are new to the Jaws macros, just remember, in order to move around in
the windows always hold down the control shift keys when using the arrow keys.

I hope some of you will find this use for the macros of value.

Michael

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From: Bill.Baughn@f20.n112.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Baughn)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: One-arm dove hunt video
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:00:22 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Baughn@f20.n112.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:112/20 - Medical Information, Jacksonville Fl
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24569

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

                     One-Arm Dove Hunt Video

In 1990, students from the film and video school at UT Austin made
a documentary on the annual One-Arm Dove Hunt in Olney Texas.  The
video has finally been released and is available for $25.00.

This video should be seen by all arm amputees and everyone involved
in their care.  This is the only event in the nation specifically
for persons who have lost an arm or the use of an arm.

One-Arm Dove Hunt Association
P.O. Box 582
Olney, TX  76374

Bill B

 * SLMR 2.1a * Program error: Unable to read user's mind!

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From: NICOLAIDES@ALF.CS.HH.AB.COM (Joe Nicolaides)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Spina Bifida Association
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:57:41 GMT
Reply-To: NICOLAIDES@ALF.CS.HH.AB.COM (Joe Nicolaides)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24637

The Greater Cleveland Spina Bifida Association is interested in
making contact with other support groups, individuals born with spina
bifida and parents (and family members) of children. Young adults and
parents in our group are interested in setting up a network for collecting
and sharing info. Our mailing address is:

The Greater Cleveland Spina Bifida Association
P.O Box 534
Edgewater Branch
Cleveland, Ohio  44107

Mail messages can also be mailed per the network.

                                  Joe Nicolaides
                                    President
                              The Greater Cleveland
                              Spina Bifida Association
From: cigs13@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Debbie Jans)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Help in finding a Voice Response System
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:55:25 GMT
Reply-To: cigs13@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Debbie Jans)
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24631

In Britain there are some specialist centres/services providing
help and information for just such problems.  Information can be
sought also through the IBM Computability Centre (in Warwick,
England, near Coventry).  I believe there is a software program
from the US called Voice Print which recognizes spoken words and
then types them on screen.  I can possibly get more information on
this next week.

(Posted by A. Gilinsky, Centre for Law, Computers & Technology at
Strathclyde University on behalf of)

Debbie Jans, M.A., C.C.C., Senior Speech and Language Therapist

(Poster's Note:  Ms. Jans will be employed to set up and manage a
new Centre for Augmentative Communication from 12 October in the
Edinburgh area.)
From: Mike.Lyons@f210.n232.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Lyons)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RSD Group
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:05:41 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Lyons@f210.n232.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:232/210 - The Lyons Den, Pekin IL
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24680

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 DR>    Agree 100 % and would love to work with you. The reason for the
 DR> letters is as you know RSD is not to well known. The
 DR> letters will help me show the real need for some
 DR> Goverment funding. I talked to Senetor Luft about state
 DR> funding. He explained the prosses to me.

OK, I figured it had something to do with the funding.  We are not
really ready to do that yet, and if you get it set up then we don't
really have to worry about it.  We are really working hard at
getting some of the laws changed or at least some form of
ammendments to the laws.  It is correct that Dept. of Rehab does
recognize it, but on the legal level the Federal Govt. really
doesn't acknowledge it, YET!  Also, a lot of the insurance
companies don't acknowledge it either so if you are depending on
and ins. co. to help, you are going to be fighting an uphill
battle.

I will say also that not all insurance companies are like this, but
most of them are.  For everyone else out there reading this, my
Father got diagnosed, by a doctor workmans comp sent him to, within
a three month period.  Now with RSDS, the first three months is
critical.  If you can get it diagnosed and treated within three
months then there is a good chance of recovery, but after the three
months, your chance of recovery drops off dramatically with the
passage of time.  The ins. co. has fought and drug it out now for
three YEARS!  It started in my dad's left leg and has since spread
to his right leg and now we beleive that it is in both arms, his
spine, his neck and possibly even his face!

If they just could have got him treatment immediately, he might be
totaly healed, instead he is now forced to use a wheelchair most of
the time.

 DR>   BTW I am looking for a someone to hub my RSD echo in
 DR> your area so if you want the job you got it.

Well, I am trying to save up some money for a 14.4 modem.  I can't
afford the long distance phone bills right now, but if no one else
takes the job I will consider it in a couple of months since that
is about when (hopefully) I will be able to get the modem.

                                        Later...  Mike.

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From: mattioli@took.enet.dec.com (John Mattioli)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Addendum to Slimware Windows Bridge Review (short (really))
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:43:19 GMT
Reply-To: mattioli@took.enet.dec.com (John Mattioli)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24544

                   Addendum to Slimware Windows Bridge Review

                               By John Mattioli

This is a brief addendum to a rather lengthy note I circulated a few
days ago which reviewed the product Slimware Windows Bridge from
Syntha-Voice COmputers Inc.

I understand they have recently put a demo version of the windows
screen reader on their bbs.  I have not attempted the download, but
here's the instructions as I received them.

1. call the bbs at 416-578-5183 or better yet have your friend with
the high speed modem do so.  I'm told their modem operates at 19.2
KBPS.

2. You'll get a menu and should type F then D.

3. I'm told there are two sets of files: one contains the drivers,
the other contains the software.  The total size is roughly 2MB
(get out that fast modem).

This promises to be a fairly sizeable download so, before you spend
your money read the following section which I have exerpted from
Syntha-Voice's manual.  It includes hardware/software
requirements.

Good luck and please read the installation section of the manual
before calling Syntha-VOice with problems.  Reading the review I
circulated may help you with your installation also.  It's a bit
tricky.

                                     John
L----------<<<<< EXERPT FROM SYNTHA-VOICE MANUAL >>>>> ----------
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

OPERATING SYSTEM:        MS-DOS or PC-DOS 3.0 or later.

WINDOWS:                 Microsoft Windows Version 3.1

PROCESSOR:               8088 for DOS; 80-386+ for WINDOWS.

SYSTEM MEMORY:           512+ K for DOS; 4+ mb. for WINDOWS.

DISK SPACE:              Fixed Disk required for WINDOWS.

VIDEO:                   VGA required for WINDOWS
                         100% Register-level compatible.
                         Cards with built-in Font Generation are
                         not compatible.

PERIPHERALS:             MOUSE or TRACKING BALL for WINDOWS

SUPPORTED SYNTHESIZERS

SYNTHA-VOICE Model "I" and SYNTHA-VOICE Model "S"

ACCENT PC and ACCENT SA

AUDAPTER

DECTALK and DECTALK PC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 John Mattioli
                           (Put witty repartee here)

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From: patt@squid.tram.com (Patt Bromberger)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Pilot project
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:46:35 GMT
Reply-To: patt@squid.tram.com (Patt Bromberger)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24626

[Forwarded from the VOCNET - NCRVE UC Berkeley Voc Ed
 Practitioners' Discussion Group mailing list]

Hei VOCNETnetters,
regards from Finland.

We intend to start a pilot project for a couple of vocational
institutes about interpersonal contacts abroad, kind of a new
step about internationalization for schools which don't have very
much (or none) exprience about using telematic tools.

We selected different kind of institutes for the pilot. There's one
for blind people, called ArlaInstitute, one about social sciences like
health care, elderly care etc, one school for nursing, one institute
of economics, one round hotel and restaurant services.

We have had a couple of preliminary meetings. Now, next Monday,
the 28th of September, people visit the University for a wider view
about different modes of telematics beside of ordinary email.

We look after foreign contacts to the pilot and the participating
institutes. In the beginning I'll hope if you dear netters could send
me some welcome messages to show those people next Monday.
If you know some American vocational schools, institutes, high schools
etc. which work in the same area these Finnish do, please, tell me
addressis, contact names etc.

Our aim is to build a Freenet like network for Finnish K12 schools
and vocational schooling. It takes still some time. Since it's birth
I'd like to start such connection to the States we (and our partners) could get
some good experience already before we can enlargen the
field of schools' independent contacts by Internet abroad.

Thanks in advance

Heikki Korpinen
Helsinki University of Technology
Finland
Internet: hkorpine@vipunen.hut.fi

    Help Finland
From: Ted.Quick@f274.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Quick)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Computers adjusting to AD
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:02:24 GMT
Reply-To: Ted.Quick@f274.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/274 - Auto-Mania, Williamson NY
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24656

LK>  I am doing research into accessbility of the physically challanged
LK>at Carnegie Mellon Univ. The main issue is designing a computerized
LK>'Kiosk' that would be accessible to those defined as disabled in the
LK>American Disabilities Act of 1990(ADA) .
LK>  My problem is that my background is strictly in Information Systems
LK>with little exposure to Human Factors or Ergonomics. Thus, I am not
LK>aware of the concerns of the Physcially challanged in terms of GUI, or
LK>plain-interfaces with a computer.
LK>   I would appreciate it greatly if someone, could direct me to
LK>information concerning ADA and Computer Systems- Such as Intrest Groups,
LK>Hardware and Software Vendors, and guidlines.

Lawrence, you may find it helpful to contact the Job Accommodations
Network at 800-466-4232.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Haven't they heard about ADA?

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From: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen magnifiers?
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:37:38 GMT
Reply-To: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Fidonet:    The Handicap News BBS (141/420)   1-203-337-1607
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24579

One starting place (if you have ftp access) is to look at some
of the programs and files at handicap.shel.isc-br.com (login
as "anonymous" and use your e-mail address as your password).

There is one directory containing various screen and print enlarging
software (freeware, shareware, demos).  Directory is /pub/large.

Also in the /pub/ibm directory, there is the IBM disability resource
guide for the visually impaired which discusses some hardware and
software solutions along with company addresses and phone numbers.

                                Bill McGarry
                                (203) 337-1518

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From: ml@world.std.com (Mark Limont)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Computers adjusting to ADA
Summary: Computers and the disabled
Keywords: access computers disabled
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: ml@world.std.com (Mark Limont)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24580

One good place to start is Dimenet an on-line network with info
about ADA subjects into which a lot of people connected with the
Independent Living Programs around the country regularly call.
Their toll free online # is 800-464-5412.

In the Massachusetts area, there is the Mass Assistive Technology
Partnership tel (voice) 617-735-7820.  Ask to speak to MaryAnn
O'Toole.  Also, in Mass the Info Center for Individuals with
Disabilities is a good general source of info.  Their tel # (voice)
is 617-727-5540.

Their are national orgainzations as well, serving the different
disability communities (blind, mobility impaired, deaf and hard of
hearing) who could help with focused questions you may have.

Yrs,
Mark Limont
ml@world.std.com

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From: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: HR 5450 To repeal ADA, any info?
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:02:55 GMT
Reply-To: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.3 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24660

 ST>  EB> Edwards and Dannemeyer both lost in the primaries.
 ST>
 ST>   Do you know if they had introduced those bills before or after the
 ST> primaries?

I know the Edwards bill was introduced before, since the Oklahoma primary was
last month.  Dannemeyer dropped out of the House race to run for Senate, and
he lost back during the California primary, whenever that was (WHY does this
country have close to a year of primaries????).  Dannemeyer was one of the
House's leading opponents of the ADA in the first place (his pet cause is
gay-bashing, and he managed to convince himself that the ADA was primarily a
gay-rights bill).  One time he introduced a resolution condemning Nelson
Mandela's visit to the US; the resolution specifically compared Mandela to
Willie Horton.  He was also among the first to state publicly that mandatory
prayer in the public schools would have prevented the LA riots.  He tends to
go in for conspiracy theories, like a "cell of homosexuals" running HHS.  He
sometimes acts as if he thinks he's a reincarnation of Joe McCarthy.

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From: /PN=BRENDA.L.MONENE/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com (Brenda Monene)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Sign Language In England
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: /PN=BRENDA.L.MONENE/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com (Brenda Monene)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24591

 om>

Paul...tried to send this as a personal memo, but it bounced back.

Brenda

Forwarded message:

Posted: Tue, Sep 29, 1992   7:20 PM EDT              Msg: KGJC-5441-8766
from:   B.MONENE
to:     (c:usa,a:telemail,p:internet,
        "rfc-822":<galaxy.nsc.com(b)pad(a)voder.pa.dec.com>)
CC:     B.MONENE/DEAFTEK
subj:   SIGN LANGUAGE IN ENGLAND

Hello Paul...sign language in the U.K. (England, Scotland, Wales
and I believe Ireland as well) use BSL (British sign language).
The sign language is similar to ASL (American Sign Language) and
you are correct...they do not use anymore finger spelling that we
do with ASL.  Just as we have various forms of sign language in
this country (SEE, PSE, Cued Speech, etc.) so do the British.
However, if you ask a deaf person about the sign language of deaf
people, he/she will talk to you about ASL as the British person
will talk to you about BSL as being their language.

There are BSL books published.  Best source is the RNID (Royal
National Institute for the Deaf) in London.    Will get you an
address if you want it.

Brenda Monene
International Deaf/Tek, Inc.

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille and spelling
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:05:52 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24594

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Just curious, I wonder how many Braille users really follow all the
Braille rules when they are taking notes, writing personal letters
in Braille, etc.  Based on the Braille I have seen from most of the
blind people I know, even those who have been Braille users ever
since they were a child, most don't seem to do a very good job of
following the " rules " for good Braille.

Don't get me wrong, I don't follow the rules that well myself,
partly because I forgot a lot of them a long time ago.  But, I
guess we are just like sighted people who can have real good hand
writing when they are really careful, but most of the time their
handwriting is so sloppy that they are the only person who can read
what they wrote after the write it.  In fact I would guess that
most Braille readers are more particular about good Braille
formating in books and magazines than the average print reader who
puts up with absolutely awful newspaper print, etc.  Nor would a
Braille reader accept the number of Braille errors as sighted
people put up with in newspapers, magazines, etc.

        D. T.

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From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: games
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:56:16 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24634

Try getting nethack version 3.00 patch level j.
You'll find it works well when you disable the
ibmgraphics variable in the nethack.cnf file by prefixing it with
an (!) mark since all characters will write out to ascii.

Jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>