From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: To All Truth Seekers!
Organization: LLNL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:10:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.150735.23962@cs.tulane.edu> goff@pops.navo.navy.mil writes:

>JESUS WAS A MYTH-
@   Question: The bible, as a history book, is astonishingly correct when
>	     used to understand archeological remains and ancient writings.
>	     All we have to validate the existance of any person who has
>	     died and all those who knew him personally have died is
>	     a written record of his life and times or pictures. If
>	     the bible is not a reliable account then how do we know
>	     that long dead people, for example, Alexander the Great 
>	     really lived and was not just a made up myth? 

	So what? He may have lived, or he may have arose from the
imaginations of his followers.

	Do you, by any chance, believe in Ramtha? After all, this very
nice lady named J.Z. Knight _says_ he exists and that he communicates
through her.

>Assuming Jesus is not a myth, that he really lived:

>BIBLE ACCOUNT IS INCORRECT:
@   Question: If the account is incorrect, then many people have participated
>	     in the writing of a story that certainly would have required
@             very wicked hearts to produce. This devious plan would have
@             had to perpetrate a course of at least 8 centuries and I
@             suggest this because of the book of Isaiah where the
@             prophesies of Christ's birth circumstances, purpose and
@             so forth are so clearly described. All told, around 250
@             detailed prophecies were fulfilled by Jesus. For this
@             to be true, this is a scam of enormous proportions and
@             where is the explanation of how such a scam could be
@             carried out?

	250 prophecies? Is that anything like Bill Clinton's 128 tax
increases?

	I think that it was all made up by his followers to _prove_
that JC was the Messiah and not some lone fanatic executed for
blasphemy.

	And one interesting thing, Victoria Goff, take a look at this:

Sexism (it is hard to get a Bible banger on this one, but some of them
vehemently deny being sexist) -- In Genesis 2, Adam and Eve get kicked
out of the Garden of Eden just because Eve was conned into eating that
fruit by a certain mischievous snake. In one of the "Ten Commandments"
(Exodus 20:17, Deuteronomy 5:21), one is not supposed to desire one's
neighbor's land, house, wife, slaves, cattle, donkeys, or anything
else of his. Notice how women are lumped in with the rest of a man's
property. Jesus Christ was rather rude to his mother at Cana. Paul
states that (1 Corinthians 11) women are to be subject to men in the
same way that men are subject to God; that women exist for the sake of
men, and not men for the sake of women; that men are the image and
glory of God, while women are the image and glory of men; and that
women should keep their heads covered to indicate that they are under
their husbands' authority. Women should wear their hair long in order
to cover their heads, while men are to keep their hair short; this is
because men are the image and glory of God, while women are the image
and glory of men. Also, (1 Corinthians 14:34,35) women are to be
silent in church, and should let their husbands instruct them. (1
Timothy 2:11,12) Women are supposed to learn and not teach. (1 Peter
3:1-7) Women should submit to their husbands and should look plain;
they should call their husbands their masters, as Sarah had called
Abraham.

	Isn't it funny, a female bible-thumper ignoring parts of the
Bible?

/Loren

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