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From: claude@bauv106.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (Claude Frantz (RZ))
Subject: AMI BIOS and memory
Summary: BIOS does not recognize additional memory
Keywords: BIOS AMI memory
Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:17:27 GMT

Hei all !

on an AT with 386SX processor I have add 4MB of memory but the
BIOS does not recognize it. The behaviour is the same as when no
additional memory were there. The BIOS identify itself as
E341-1400-061390-K8 version 1.30 08/30/90.

What is wrong ?
Where can I find serious information about the AMI BIOS ?
a book or a serious documentation ?
What is Word/Block Interleave for bank x ?
What is " page mode enable/disabled " ?

Many thanks in advance for your help
Claude F. 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:13369 alt.folklore.computers:6166
From: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Can VF's solve pc heat problems?
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:43:05 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr7.022126.23997@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> hamilton@peponi.wcc.govt.nz (Michael Hamilton) writes:
>Is there a product that will shut a PC down if it detects a heat
>problem?  How long before an PC with a failed fan damages itself? 

   Big computers have heat activated relays in their power paths.  
   These relays are quite small....you could put one in series with
   the AC on a small PC that would shut it down if it overheats.

   I wouldn't try this with a Unix system for obvious reasons, but a
   simple DOS box should be ok.  

   How long before heat damage would depend entirely on the ambient
   temp, the specific PC, etc.  What you really need to worry about
   is chip temperature..which is what the temp-relays sense.  


Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:13600 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:7420
From: cpp@cci632.cci.com (Carl P. Petito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Help with 386 setup
Keywords: 386, BIOS
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:37:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Consoles Incorporated


I've just upgraded my system with a 386SX motherboard (VLSI's 82C311 SCAMP
chip) with AMI's BIOS.  The manual is a little light on jumpers and advanced
cmos setup.  I'd appreciate any information on the following:

	Jumpers:
	Pipeline mode - enabled, but what are we pipelining?

	Advanced Setup:
	Global EMS Control - no idea what this is for; I'm using EMM386.
	Turbo Video - enabled or disabled QA Plus gives the same video
		      performance results; Video ROM is shadowed.
	Non-Turbo Mode CLK2 Divider - Clk2/2 ???
	Fast Clock Divider - /2 ???
	Ext BUS Oscillator Control - Slow ???
	Slow Clock Divider - /2 ???

Also, if I do a clean boot, QA Plus says my VGA card does ~15K cps.
After installing EMM386, this number drops to ~5K cps.  Why? And is there
anything that can be done to negate the decrease?

If there is sufficient response, I'll post a summary.

Thanks for your help,

Carl Petito

rochester!cci632!op632!cpp
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:13453 comp.lang.c:7383
From: aaron@clark.edu (Aaron Auseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Help!  Need to detect the CRT's vertical retrace signal
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:19:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Apr9.001946.12923
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Apr8.080857.22629@serval.net.wsu.edu> rcrane@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Robert Crane - OTHER) writes:
>
>I need to detect the CRT's vertical retrace on a IMB PS/2 VGA
>type display adapter.  I am programming in Turbo C.
>How do I do it??

        /* wait for vertical retrace, so we don't get flicker */
        while ((inportb(0x3DA)&8)!=8);

I believe you have to #include <dos.h> to use inportb.  The above simply waits
for a vertical retrace on MOST (never say all) VGA/EGA boards.  There is little
use doing anything in the while loop since it doesn't take very long for a
vertical retrace to happen and you might miss several in a row!!
From: edm@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:50:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Desktop Vertical Mounting?
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

I have a 1987-vintage HP Vectra Classic with 40 MB MFM drive.  It has been
sitting on its side since July, 1988.  The disk is original.  I do a
low-level format about twice a year with Gibson's SpinRite.
From: dlai@Xerox.com (David Lai-Visitors PA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Phone/Fax/modem switch...
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:37:46 GMT
Reply-To: dlai@Xerox.com (David Lai-Visitors PA)
Organization: Xerox PARC

> Most modems can be programmed to wait for a certain number of rings before
> answering. This allows a modem/phone combination to perform some of the
> functioning of the TF555. The TF555 might be useful, however, if you want to
> share one incoming line between three modems with differing characteristics,
> or modems that are connected to different computers. You could then tell
> people (assuming your phone number is 1-800-555-1212) to dial:
>     1-800-555-1212 to get machine "A"
>     1-800-555-1212, wait 4 seconds and dial 11, to get machine "B"
>     1-800-555-1212, wait 4 seconds and dial 22, to get machine "C"
>   The "wait 4 seconds" will vary, depending on how long it takes after the
> complete dialing, for your TF555 to answer. On long distance calls, this
> may not be predictable. Dial the 2 digits too soon, and the TF555 will not
> hear them; too late, and it will already have switched you to the "answering
> machine" port due to timeout.

Have them dial 11111111111111 instead of 11, etc... -- get it?
From: itana@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: mouse and keyboard
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:56:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

I've on GW 2000 486 and I am having some problems with
the keyboard and the mouse. Occasionaly they just vanish.
If I reset the system, it works fine. It doesn't happen
very often but is very annoying. Is it hardware or software?

Most of the times this happens within windows but I had this
problem in DOS as well.

Any help?

thanks, Itana.
From: harmsen@cs.vu.nl (Harmsen H)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: HP Deskjet (500)
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:41:45 GMT

Can anyone tell me, is the HP Deskjet or HP Deskjet 500
HP Laserjet III - compatible. 
I've planned to buy an HP Deskjet but I want my printer to be
compatible with the HP Laserjet IIId. Which type of HP Deskjet 
(if any) is best for me to buy?

Thanks in advance,

Hans-Peter Harmsen	(harmsen@cs.vu.nl)
Free University Amsterdam
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Re: WORLD-WIDE SHORTAGE OF 3.5" DISKS
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:09:15 GMT

In article <1868@wrdis01.af.mil> swsmith@wrdis01.af.mil (Scott Smith) writes:

>        Sure this is a great price, but is there really a shortage on
>3.5 disks? Wasn't there a worldwide shortage on harddisks last month?
>What's next?
>        If anyone else has heard of the "world-wide" shortage, please
>let me know.

There are some problems with availability of 3.5" disks.  Apparently
both Microsoft and IBM have bought enormous numbers of disks for both
Windows 3.1 and OS/2 2.0.  Microsoft, for example, must have recently
bought something like 5 million disks and IBM may have bought on the
order of 1 to 2 million disks.

--Tony
From: mingmar@cs.mcgill.ca (Ming MAR)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Attaching 1.44MB 3.5" to
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:00:11 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In <1992Apr3.002039.3879@iitmax.iit.edu> ee448rsw@iitmax.iit.edu
(Robert S Wojtowicz) writes:

>In article <702106093.0@ship.UUCP> Clayton.Little@NO (Clayton Little)
>writes:
>>ZW*>I tried to attach a new 3.5" floppy drive as drive B to my old
>>ZW*>original(!) IBM-AT currently running DOS 3.3 and using 1 5.25"
>>
>>        Well, a simple solution... DOS 3.3 doesn't support 1.44's.
>>        Change your DOS to 4.01 or 5 and life will be simpler for you.
>>        ;)
>
>DOS 3.3 does support 1.44, that is what I am using at home on my XT
>compatible. What might not be compatible is your BIOS, as there is

I'm using MS-DOS 3.20 at home on an XT and it works fine.
The floppy disk controller includes a ROM high density BIOS.
Obviously, a current version of DOS isn't needed.
From: sv@id.dth.dk (Stig Valentini (920401#PF))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help: Drivers for Wangtek ASSY 30850 tapestrmr ctrl
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:15:28 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science

Anybody have DOS drivers or tech-doc for Wangtek ASSY 30850 controller
(PWB20848a), which should work with a Wangtek 5125EN (120 MegaByte) 
Tapestreamer?
The controller is rather old (86-87)
From: u8acb@ohm.york.ac.uk (Alex Barclay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 386SX Question
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:51:03 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <1992Apr11.111457.14171@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum) writes:

>Cache coherency?  In a single processor system?  Why is this a concern?

Ahh.. So it's a single processor system is it??? What about the DMA that'll
be needed as the system is expanded further.. SCSI, Floppys, Networks.. All
wanting a true picture of what's in memory.

Just my 2p worth,

		Alex
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:13794 comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:859
From: rstanton@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Big (XGA?) monitors for IBM PS/2 model 90?
Date: 15 Apr 1992 00:03:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
Originator: rstanton@garnet.berkeley.edu

I'm planning to upgrade to OS/2, and while my 14" 8515 monitor is fine in VGA
mode, it's a bit small to use in high resolution XGA (1,024 x 768?) mode 
without causing eye-strain.

Are there large XGA compatible monitors around, or would I do better to change
my adapter and monitor together? Also, about how much money am I looking at
spending for, say, a new 16" monitor (also, would this be large enough to
use at high resolution for OS/2, Windows and X-Windows applications?)

Thanks for any advice

Richard Stanton
From: dbr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Rosler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: HP LaserJet IIIp Noise
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:07:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rtdgpINNfgc
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

I just bought a LaserJet IIIp and noticed its "fixer" gears were making a high
pitch scraping sound.  An HP rep said some of the printers do it and I
should get another one -- bought it at Fry's, so no problem.

I tested another one at the store and although quieter, it still makes a
little scraping sound.  Their demo model didn't and the technician surmised
that since it has run a lot, it may have "broken in" and worn down
the scraping parts a bit.

Well, I can try this one for 30 days and replace it (no problem,) but I was
wondering if anyone has experienced this, and/or has any information on this
problem.  Thanks in advance.

Dan
    
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From: petrocco@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (ron.petrocco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Need help with Hayes Smartmodem
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:08:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I recently acquired a used Hayes Smartmodem 1200
(model 07-00038).  It's external.  I can't get it to
dial for me.  I don't have any paperwork, and I noticed
that inside the front there are 10 dip switches.  Does anyone
know what they are for?

Please post your answer if possible.  Thanks!
From: anderl@kommu.UUCP (Horst Anderl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: WANTED: Hardware test tools
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:09:12 GMT
Organization: Siemens AG, AUT OIL NI Lab's Franconia, (Erl.)

I'm looking for a hardware test utility for IBM compatible PC's.
It should have the following features:
	- Check RAM > 16MB
	- Benchmark (CPU and Harddisk and Graphics)
	- complete hardware test 

Thank you in advance,

Horst Anderl	

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FAX    +49-911-895-4943
From: klxtho01@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Soundblaster differences!
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:46:09 GMT
Organization: University of Cape Town

In article <1992Mar31.064820.18433@wam.umd.edu>, ys@wam.umd.edu writes:
> 
>  Can someone clarify the difference between Soundblaster v1.0 v1.5 and 2.0?
> I beleive it has to do with the CMS chips being removed in the later versions
> and the sampling rates improved. If someone could possibly post or E-mail me
> the revisins, I'd appreciate it much.
> 	One more question... people have still been giving me mixed responses
> to an earlier question I posted here. Is the Soundblaster v2.0 just a revision
> of the earlier v1.5 or is it referring to the new Soundblaster Pro?
> 	Thanks in advance



The original Sound Blaster (ver 1.0) came with CMS chips (ie Game Blaster) on
it, but Creative Labs is moving away from these chips (for good reason). In
version 1.5, there is a slot for the CMS chips, but you have to buy the chips
seperately. In version 2.0, there is no place for the CMS chips.

There is another difference .... version 2.0 have dual DAC chips for the
recording and playback of stereo digitised voices. Also, they changed the MIDI
port, facilitating full duplex (you can play and listen at the same time).

The Sound Blaster Pro is basically the same as the version 2.0 but they
included dual FM chips also (and a few other goodies).

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Barry.
From: jgay@digi.lonestar.org (john gay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What is a Weitek coprocessor?
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:54:44 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1992Apr13.103140.204@winkle.bhpese.oz.au> dlab_macmill@winkle.bhpese.oz.au writes:
>Hi everyone,
>
>	I have recently purchased a 33Mhz 486 DX (optima) machine. I noticed in
>the mother board users manual than the board has an upgrade socket for a
>Weitek coprocessor. Could someone please explain to me what this is seeing that
>the 486 DX has a built-in coprocessor anyway!
>

Well, basically, the Weitek is another type of math co-processor.  It is
faster than the co-processor built into the 486DX, BUT (always a catch)
it is not compatible with the '387 instruction set - which is what the
486DX co-processor uses.  Weitek processors are also usually more expensive
than '387s by ~$500.

from the 386 machine math co-processor psuedo-FAQ and price list:


Weitek:
  The Weitek math coprocessors are faster (2-3x in some operations) than
the '387 compatible chips, but this speed comes at a cost of both compatibility
and $$$.  The price of the Weitek chips is still expensive starting at about
$350 for a 20 Mhz and going to $750 for a 33 Mhz version.  There is also
a Weitek chip made for the '486 which is $750 for the 25 Mhz version and is
about $1000 for the 33 Mhz version.  The loss of compatibility means that code
written and/or compiled to use a '387 chip cannot use a Weitek chip.  There
are a few compilers that will/can generate code for the Weitek chip.  There
are also a few software packages that can use the Weitek chip, but are of the
type that are highly floating point math intensive.  These include some
CAD packages, FEM packages, and probably some simulators.

john gay.                      jgay@digi.lonestar.org

OS/2 - opens the windows for a breath of fresh air.
From: jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Sending Commands to IDE Drives
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:07:13 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Does anyone have knowledge of sending direct commands to an IDE hard disk?
I have a Conner CP30104 IDE drive and just found out it has the ability
to go to "sleep" on command or by itself. However, this must be activated
by sending a command to the hard disc.  While I have the book with the
specifics I have never gone near sending a direct command to anything let
alone my hard disc.

Can anyone who has any ideas email me?  It would be MOST appreciated!

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From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: SCO SYSV386 3.2r2.0 ODT 1.1 80486-33 outperforms SUN SPARC 4/260
Date: 6 Apr 1992 00:34:59 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu

Performance figures from BRLCAD 4.0 ray tracing benchmarks:

                      MOSS    WORLD     STAR     BLDG      M35   AVERAGE

rays/sec  VAX-780   137.82    67.23    56.39    53.91    69.25     76.92
          MAC-II    153.63    80.95    62.94    60.48    --.--     71.60
          SUN3/280  165.85    89.78    76.44    75.78    96.18    100.80

          SCO '386  502.33   256.52   200.18   189.17   234.89    276.61

          SUN4/260  827.25   436.38   361.89   348.99   422.19    479.34
          SGI4D/60 1040.44   500.52   436.90   415.15   496.30    577.86

          SCO '486 1363.98   671.59   564.85   527.15   684.87    762.48

          SUN ELC  1556.66   800.18   722.95   708.21   858.90    929.38
          RS/6000  2274.36  1041.79   915.99   854.30  1110.23   1239.33

          CRAY XMP 5235.87  2108.02  1509.85  1507.81  2132.01   2498.71
          CRAY YMP 6220.79  2474.97  1742.33  1748.73  2464.90   2930.34

The 80386-33 had 64KB cache and 8MB main memory.  
The 80486-33 had 256KB cache and 8MB main memory.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: Dave Duffett <dduffett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Switching Floppy Drives
Keywords: jumpers, floppy
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:06:33 -0500

Hello Netters,  I was hoping someone can help me out with my little problem
I am having trying to figure out my floppy drive jumpers.  I currently have
a TEAC 5 1/4" installed as A: drive and a TEAC 3 1/2" as B:.  What I want to
do is simply swith the drives so the 3 1/2" is A and the 5 1/4 is B.  So 
tonight I opened up my PC and took a look at the drives and then looked for
any documentation I had on the drives.  I found all the stuff that came with
the drives (only one piece of paper that tells how to place the drive inside 
the PC) and it is no help as it tells nothing about the on-board jumpers.

I fooled around with the jumpers, not knowing what I was doing, but was not
able to install the drives properly.   Below is what the jumpers look like
currently (before I started messing with them):

  TEAC 5 1/4" 1.2meg                         TEAC 3 1/2"  1.4meg
  _________                                     ---------
 |  UO  -- |                                   | HHO  -- |
 |  U1  -- |                                   |  OP  XX |
 |         |                                   | LHI  -- |
 |  DO  -- |                                   | HHI  -- |
 |  D1  XX |                                   |  D1  XX |
 |  D2  -- |                                   |  DO  -- |
 |  D3  -- |                                   |  FG     |
  ---------                                     ---------
                  [ X marks were jumper is ]
  ** the TEAC 5 1/4 also has other jumpers on the board but I don't think 
     they are the ones I should be looking at. ??? (I just don't know)

Any help you can provide would be great!  Also is there some text file on 
the internet what discribes floppy dive jumpers?

          Thanks in advance!
                       -+< Dave
                           Internet:  dduffett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
                             Bitnet:  duffettda@urvax



Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: dlowe@world.std.com (Miller Lowe)
Subject: HELP!, Would like to boilerplate ISA I/O card bus interface
Summary: Would like to find a source for pre-tested ISA bus interface.
Keywords: design hardware i/o EE
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:00:30 GMT

I have a requirement to produce a custom I/O card for a 33MHz 386 system
in an unreasionable time.  As I do not wish to spend valuable hours on
an ISA interface, does anyone know of a source for prototyping boards
with decoding and buffering circuitry already in place???  I see
this sort of thing for VXI and VME all of the time?

Any directional information would be appricated!

Thanks in advance.

D. Miller Lowe
dlowe@world.std.com
From: cbc1@ra.msstate.edu (christopher b carey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: affordable 24 bit colour
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:38:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Apr14.203806.863
Organization: Mississippi State University

>> It features 1024x768/256 but also 800x600 in 64K colours, and top of
>> the bill: 640x480 in 16 Meg colours (yep that's true 24 bit colour :-)
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>    Maybe I am confused but 16 Meg colours is 16*1024=16,384 while 24
>bit colour is 2^24=16,777,216.  My conclusion is that if you purchase
>this card (I have no idea what the specs are other than what you have
>mentioned) then you will be short-changed 16,777,216-16,384=16,760,832
>colours.  

Well, you're close.
16 Meg however would be 16*1024*1024.
16*1024 is 16 K.
Look before ya leap.

Chris Carey
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From: sundaram@eecae.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help: My PC gives beeps when Turned ON!
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:43:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: sundaram@eecae.ee.msu.edu


Hi,
I have  a 286 PC that I have connected to a Novell LAN at work. When I turn it
on it gives me Beeping noises instead of booting up. If you can help me 
please send me mail at "sundaram@egr.msu.edu". 

Thanks

Divya

(sundaram@egr.msu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.dcom.modems
From: mdknight@leland.Stanford.EDU (Milton Albert Snyder)
Subject: Re: Any information (no opinions) on Gateway modem?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:50:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.222142.24894@spdcc.com> jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz) writes:
>Having seen the tail-end of the nth flame-war about Gateway, I am hesitent
>to ask this, but does anyone have any real experience with the Gateway 2000
>$195 fax-modem?
>-- 
>     Jerry Natowitz
>     Guest user on:
>ARPA jin@ursa-major.spdcc.com
>UUCP {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!jin

I wish I did!!!  I ordered the modem about a month ago, and called
them today (april 8) to find out what the deal is.  Now they're saying
they don't even know when they'll ship (I called about a week ago and
they said they would ship by the end of April, the week before that they
said it would ship in a week).

I didn't have any problem with Gateway when getting my computer, but
this modem thing is really getting on my nerves now.

Skip.