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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Landing fish
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:53:52 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug11.155330.6298@nmsu.edu> pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:
>In article <blaby.713515628@sfu.ca> blaby@fraser.sfu.ca (John Edward Blaby) writes:
|   Give it a shot....fishing with barbless hooks is the way to go. BTW, I
|   very rarely use trebles anymore eitheer. I find a single hook is
|   better than a treble for hooking a fish, but that is another topic :)
|
|To second the motion -- back in my Seattle days, I found stream salmon
|fishing worked much better with a barbless.  Salmon just don't seem to
|know how to shake a hook out; they fight you by just pulling...  so I
|had better luck setting the hook with a barbless, and no greater
|chance of losing them once hooked.  And, of course, they were easier
|to release.  I wouldn't try it with trout, though.

If you plan on releasing the fish your catching you should.  Just keep a 
tight line.  A few weeks ago I fished a stream where I probably released
60 trout in one day (8-15").  One of them cleared the water surface five
times and I was still able to "land it".  

Something to think about when choosing a treble vs. single hook:  That
23" brook trout might just swim back down to his hole and try to dislodge
the lure buy rubbing up against a submerged stump.  Plunk. One 23" brook
trout firmly implanted to a tree stump.  It's pretty easy to imagine 
considering the number of fish that I've lost due to fish wrapping my line
around submerged stumps with my line still connected.  I landed a 16" german
brown by taking off my shoes and pants and going in after one that did that
once.  It was the most beautiful german brown I'd ever seen.

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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: bc@col.hp.com (Bryan Call)
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:40:56 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:
> 
> During my trip to the Yukon this summer, my Plano rod case was
> wrecked by the airline. The end of my 7' one piece muskie rod
> inside the case was also snapped off (imagine my delight when I
> discovered it). I have since been compensated by the airline.
> 
> In any case, after seeing how well this supposedly high-quality
> case held up to the baggage compartment, I have the following
> question: Where can I buy a better rod case?
> 
Don't buy one, make your own.  A length of PVC (or ABS), some 
couplings, some glue and foam inserts should set you back about $5.00
and take you 15 minutes to assemble into an almost bullet proof 
rod case.

> I noticed one guy in the group of Americans who came in on the
> float plane after us had a white plastic rod case that looked
> like it take a small A-bomb. He was from the Chicago area. Any
> idea where he got it? Where I could order one?

Sounds like PVC to me!

Bryan

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>
From: ega015@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Robert Edge)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: SEA FISHING Magazines
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:47:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.


	Can anybody send me a list of what American Sea fishing 
	magazines are available as well as what American G.P.S
	units are available for small fishing boats.
	This information would be most helpful.
	Thanks.

			Robert....
				ega015@comp.lancs.ac.uk
				ega015@cent1.lancs.ac.uk
From: van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:38:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


Well, the sturdiest rod case I've ever seen was made of
PVC cut to the right size, with a screw on cap.  (I thought that was a good
idea - cheap and extremely durable.)
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From: M.Steven@uws.edu.au (Mike Steven)
Subject: Re: Fishing in OZ
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:36:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.112507.2088@cs.uow.edu.au>, u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au (Anthony Thomas Cusack) writes:
 

I want to know about the practicality of
> fishing for trout on saltwater rod's and reels.

I don't know what type of saltwater rods and tackle you have but if they are
anything like mine it would be a gross insult to use them on a trout! Why not
go the other waypurchase some fly fishing tackle and use it in the sea as well.
I have often used a very light freshwater spinning rod and reel combination to
fish for kahawai (sometimes called saltwater trout) in NZ, and it is great fun.
You could also purchase a saltwater fly rod, but as with other salt water gear
it would be far to heavy to use on a troutparticularly an Australian trout :-)!

Mike
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Skunked!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:33:39 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <Bt79Dx.9u9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> zinzow@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark S. Zinzow) writes:
|parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
|>For two days in a row I have fished "my" creek, and been skunked.
|>Loads of fish in there, jumping all over the place, and I could
|>even *see* then a lot of the time.
|
|>The fish would follow my spinner or spoon, but never close to
|>within about six inches, it was infuriating to watch them do
|>this.
 
Try varying the retrieve.  Maybe they're getting tired of seeing the
same spinner or spoon. 

|Once I was fishing for trout with corn and watched a school of them
|swimming around just looking it my corn for a long while.  Finally,
|I got bored and decided to just throw in all the corn I had to feed
|them.  I took a handful from the can I had and tossed it in and they
|went into a freeding frenzy gobbling every last bit.  Gee, this looks
|promissing I thought, and put some corn back on my hook, dropped it in
|and then tossed in another handful of corn and had one instantly.

As I was telling a guy via email you stumbled across a old trick.  Hatchery
trout are fed by someone walking along the hatchery "pool" and throwing
in "Purina Fish Chow" (No, I'm not kidding) in by the handful.  Those trout
didn't know it was feeding time until they heard the corn hitting the water.
You probably could have thrown in a handful of small pebbles and got the
fish active.  For schooling planted trout the handful of pebbles trick 
seems to work pretty well.

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| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: bc@col.hp.com (Bryan Call)
Subject: Re: Cooking The Catch--Rocky Mountain Whitefish
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:08:37 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

starkey@cs.montana.edu (Denbigh Starkey) writes:
*STUFF DELETED*
> most of the whitefish that I catch, and make up about 30 lbs of the stuff
> at a time.  These are great tasting fish (not squaw fish as a later poster
> suggested, which are trash), and should be treated with the respect due to 
> one of our native fish (comment for Steve W., who strangles each one he
> catches - maybe he will become less violent now he's finished his MS).
> 
In Colorado the Mountain Whitefish is classified as a Game Fish.  In fact 
any non protected fish is classified thus.  As such, strangling or any other
act of non consumptive destruction is illegal.  If you are going to kill a 
Game Fish you had better plan to eat it or you risk the wrath of DOW and/or
fellow fisherfolk.

*MORE REALLY GOOD STUFF DELETED*

> Denbigh S.
> starkey@cs.montana.edu, starkey@mtsunix1.bitnet
> 406-994-4780 (work), 406-586-7614 (home)

Bryan  

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: need some help on how to get started...
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:17:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <douthit.714061177@scofflaw> douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
|mwang@netcom.com ( ) writes:
|
|>Hi folks! I need some help with how to get started with this sport.
|>Any suggestions (eg what kind of gear should I get, what is the
|>right price, where is the right/good place to fish etc etc?)
|>There are so many questions a beginner could ask...
|
|The gear and good places to fish all depend on what you are looking to catch.   
|Tell us about the area where you live and the type of water you plan on fishing 
|(large reservoirs, small lakes, rivers, streams etc...)
 
You forgot the ocean.  Since Mike is posting from Netcom I assume that he
is from the same area as I am (Sillycone Valley).  Depending on how far
one wants to travel all of these fisheries are available.  They're are many
medium sizer reservoirs in the area that primarily stock bass and trout.  I
would guess that this would make up the bulk of the fishing.  The San Francisco
bay and delta aren't too far away (less than an hour) where everything from 
bullhead, to perch, to catfish, to stripped bass (up to 60 lbs.), to sharks
and 500 lb. plus sturgeon can be caught.  The ocean is about 30 miles away
with all it's rockfish, perch, salmon and other denizens of the deep.  Large
reservoirs and several larger rivers are coming out of the Sierra Nevada
foothills a couple hours away.  Higher in the Sierras (3-4 hours) are alpine
lakes and small crystal clear streams.

Given all this information I'd recommend a 5'6" to 6" medium light rod,
preferably graphite composite, with a *balanced* spinning reel.  This would
cover *most* of the conditions that he would encounter.  

My second recommendation involves tackle.  Rather than buy a large tackle
box (the success of a fisherman is not rated by the size of his tackle box)
buy several of the smaller plastic boxes and containers.  That way you can
fill up one box with trout lures, another with bass lures, hooks, splitshots
and other terminal tackle in another and toss all of them in a day pack.  

(Mike, feel free to email me for recommendation as to what to put in these
tackle boxes, as well as some specific recommendation about places to fish)

In a short time you will probably find that you might want some specialized
gear for different fisheries.  I have 12 rods and reels now.  I had more 
but four of them were stolen last summer along with *ALL* of my tackle.

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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: plh@ecemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?
Keywords: cheese bait hook
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:01:32 GMT

In article <Bt5JEC.HGz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, zinzow@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark S. Zinzow) writes:
|> Speaking of fish survival, I live on a small lake (a little over
|> a mile in circumfrence) and the local home owners association rules
|> say to kill all bluegill caught.  This seems awfully cruel to do
|> to all the little ones.  Does anyone know why this is common in 
|> pond management?

Panfish can grow to immense popultion densities.  At higher densities 
a phenomenon called "stunting" occurs.  If the popultion density gets too 
large, the fish do not grow to a large size.   This is why it is a BIG 
mistake to intoduce crappie into anything but a huge lake (they are the 
worst).  I do not think that stunting is caused by lack of food, if you 
put a young fish in a small aquarium, it will not grow large (although 
lack of food is a separate and important factor).  A friend 
of mine has suggested that perhaps the fish release some chemical into 
the water, when the chemical reaches higher concentrations it inhibits the 
growth of fish (can anyone tell me about this?).  I don't think that 
stunting is an inter-species phenomenon, i.e. too many bluegill will 
prevent bass from growing.  So perhaps the home owner's assn. is trying 
to grow a bigger panfish. 

Being a bass guy, I can think of another reason why one should kill 
panfish.  Small bluegill are great forage for bass.  Larger bluegill 
(big enough to be caught) are too prickley for bass to eat, get rid 
of them so the little guys can have more food.  Other 
panfish (with larger mouths than bluegill) such as green sunfish, 
warmouth bass and rock bass will eat minnows and are in direct competition 
with bass for forage,  these unwanted species should be indescriminantly 
killed on sight.


		-Pat.
From: tomg@hpcvxph (Thomas J. Gilg)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Shimano Reels
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:02:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Aug12.180205.17889
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

> ..... is the AX worth the few dollars more?

I don't know about the differences, but I do own several AX reels and
recommend them highly.  I've about worn my 100AX out fishing trout in
Montana and Oregon, and the 300AX has done well on many Salmon and
Steelhead.

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: kosicki@ratchet.Prime.COM (Bernie Kosicki)
Subject: Re: Shimano Reels
Reply-To: kosicki@ratchet.Prime.COM (Bernie Kosicki)
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:18:07 GMT

I too have had an AX for several years.  It has served me very well for
a variety of fresh water fishing needs.  I have found the action to be
very smooth, and have used it a lot at night with no foul ups.

Bernie Kosicki
kosicki@s35.Prime.com
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Landing fish
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:44:18 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <40300002@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> brown@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Pat R. Brown) writes:
|I second the use of barbless hooks (dont need to buy barbless, just mash
|down the barbs) 

I've been reading a few flytying books and all of them mention barbless
hooks.  None of them actually mention buying barbless hooks but talking
about mashing the barbs.  Most of these books list Mustad and Tiemco 
part numbers for hooks but I don't recall ever seeing part numbers for
barbless hooks.  Do they exist?

|The other thing I commend you for is leaving the fish in the water! Fish, 
|especially larger ones are not designed to be out of the water. It bothers
|me a lot to see the fisherpersons on TV practicing catch and release by 
|grabing the fish, wrenching out the hook and then chucking the fish back
|in the water like a big rock..... argh
 
Some fish are a little more hearty than others.  Many claim that just 
touching a trout will rub off essential protective oils from their skin
while you can attach a stringer of catfish to the bumper of your car, drive
20 miles to the next lake, toss in the stringer and the fish still live.

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| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: misha@cs.washington.edu (Michael Rabinovich)
Subject: Re: Panfish? (Was: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 18:59:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.180641.28240@uvm.edu> jmc@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (John Connors) writes:

>
>Why are they called panfish?  I have never met anyone who even heard
>of anyone eating a sunfish or bluegill.  In the northern half of the US,
>yellow perch are considered a decent panfish.  

When we stayed on the Blue Lake in Northern CA, we ate a lot of bluegills
and found them very good panfried. In fact, after we spent a few days
trying to catch trout and ended up catching no more than 2-3 a day,
I switched completely to bluegills, and, boy, it was fun!

Michael.

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From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: Bluegill, Sunnies, Pumkinseeds, etc.
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:59:28 GMT

In article <Aug19.213800.28756@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick) writes:
|> 
|> which I think is generic for panfish, but is mostly the redear and 
|> shellcrackers.

Now I'm going to have to get my Peterson's out this evening, I thought 
that shellcrackers were redear sunfish!

		-Pat.


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From: zinzow@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark S. Zinzow)
Subject: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?
Summary: How does one keep cheese from crumbling off a hook?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:46:58 GMT
Keywords: cheese bait hook

Lately, I've been noticing that bluegill really love cheese.
I like it too as a local cheese factory will sell moldy cheese for
$0.20/lb.  It's fun to just feed it to fish, but when I put it on
a hook to try and catch them, it usually falls off when they strike,
or when I cast it out.

Does anyone have experience using cheese as bait?  I suppose I could
try treble hooks, but they are more expensive, and harder to remove
esp. if you want the fish to survive.  

Speaking of fish survival, I live on a small lake (a little over
a mile in circumfrence) and the local home owners association rules
say to kill all bluegill caught.  This seems awfully cruel to do
to all the little ones.  Does anyone know why this is common in 
pond management?
From: jsemrad@ems.cdc.com (Joe Semrad)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:46:04 GMT
Reply-To: jsemrad@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <16of1uINNbm@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, pike@fishing.Eng.Sun.COM (Steve Pike - Sun Customer Service) writes:
|> 
|> >question: Where can I buy a better rod case?
|> 
|> I built my own case for traveling and it works
|> quite well. Use PVC pipe 1" or 2" depending
|> on how many rods you want to carry. Cement
|> a cap on one end (the bottom) and use a coller
|> with a screw in fitting on the other end(the top).
|> If you want to secure it, drill a hole throught the 
|> coller and fitting, loop a cable through it and 
|> put a lock through it. 
|> 

I would say there is one disadvantage to the PVC rod cases and that is that
they tend to be heavy (this is from someone who can't seem to go fishing
without at least three different rods :-}).  Of course if they were lighter
they wouldn't be as strong.  I would suggest adding a handle or shoulder
strap to a PVC rod case, especially if you plan to carry more than one.

Joe
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From: gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt)
Subject: Re: A Big Cat Tale [WAS: First Muskie]
Reply-To: gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt)
Organization: CCCS -- UofMinnesota
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:01:28 GMT


In article <1992Aug21.165646.16614@ncsu.edu>, plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L.
Heron) writes:

>
>|> "Don't know, it's big, and I got it on 4 lb line on an ultrlight"  
>|> 
>|> We guessed it was 20+ pounds so we called it a 30 -- forgot to measure
>
>
>A very good story, I don't have my book handy, but a 20+# catfish 
>on 4# test might be a line class word record.  I guess that seeing 
>is beleiving.

I also wondered about a line class record.  To his credit the guy who
caught it had no hesitation about releasing it.  There was an article in
last weeks paper about a guy who released a potential state record small
mouth up in the Boundry Waters partly C&R ethos, partly they were 2 or 3
days away from a certified scale.  The same article told the story of
another potential record smallmouth caught in the St. Croix, the
fisherman wanted to get it mounted but his wife wouldn't let him so they
ended up eating it and only found later that it may have weighed in as a
record (:-|  InFisherman annually publishes the top x of their
MasterAngler Awards in both kept and C&R.  
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From: maryw@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Mary Williams)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:26:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Panfish? (Was: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?)
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing

An easy way to keep cheese on a hook is to use a "cheese hook", that is a treble
hook with a spring wound around the shank. You press the cheese between the     
coils of the spring and it stays on very well. If you have trouble removing 
treble hooks, try bending down the barbs, the hooks come out much easier.

Now the part about keeping all the bluegills: Fish secrete a growth regulating
hormone. When there are too many fish for the pond (fish to water volume) the 
level of the hormone is such that the fish stay small. So If you take out the  
small ones (reduce the fish volume) the rest of the fish can get larger. 

                           happy hooking 

                               maryw
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