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From: Gordon.Benedict@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Benedict)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: Lawyer's Christmas
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 11:16:20 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

    Hi Laura,

 LR> It is nice to get a response.  I feel I have received
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 LR> some good help in my teaching through this medium.  By
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     Now, that _is_ nice to hear.  If more would take the time
     to post a thing or two, we'd be flooded by good material.

 LR> the way, do you have any other good examples of parody 
 LR> that 8th grade students could appreciate?

     Not handy, that I know of.  However, I'll keep my eyes open.
     I have a full-page scanner and OCR software so putting a textfile
     together is not difficult.  So much out there is copyrighted material
     that the scanner is of very limited use.

     Gord



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From: Richard.Stewart@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Stewart)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Good Books
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 23:39:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

My students (6th Grade) are preparing a to 'publish' reviews of 
'Good Books' They have re they have read this year.
We would be willing to send (through US Mail) a copy of our REVIEWS.
        We would also be interested in receiving lists and/or 
reviews of books other middle school aged students like.

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From: K12Net.Council@f223.n321.z1.fidonet.org (K12Net Council)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Happy Holidays
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 16:22:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/223 - SchoolHouse BBS, Lanesboro MA

        *                      Happy Holidays
       * *
      *   *                    to everyone in
     *     *
    *       *                      K12Net
   *         *
  *-----------*         from the Council of Coordinators

           Gordon Benedict  Jack Crawford   John Feltham   Janet Murray
                 Rob Reilly    Gleason Sackmann  Mort Sternheim
              Helen Sternheim     Andy Vanduyne     Louis Van Geel




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From: Laura.Ruby@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Laura Ruby)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: Lawyer's Christmas
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 11:03:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

It is nice to get a response.  I feel I have received some good help in my teaching through this medium.  By the way, do you have any other good examples of parody that 8th grade students could appreciate? 
 Laura



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From: Laura.Ruby@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Laura Ruby)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: Grading papers
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 11:01:59 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

Jim, thank you.  I will expect the papers from you by mail.  Looking forward to any help I can get in evaluating.  Thanks again.  Laura 


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From: Barbara.Mathews@f8.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mathews)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Storytelling
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 10:04:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/8 - Edge of Forever, Tucson Az

CB>I am a storyteller recently moved to Taiwan and I would
CB>like information about storytelling events in the area
CB>(Asia).  I am a librarian at Taipei American School and am
CB>interested in chatting with anyone who is interested in
CB>researching and telling stories, perhaps to start a guild
CB>or NAPPS group in the future.


Just a question, Carolyn. Why is it that story telling and being a
librarian seem to go together? I have another friend who is a librarian
who is very active in some sort of storytellers' association.

Wishing you a belated Happy New Year.
Barbara

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From: Linda.Spivey@p0.f5.n30033.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Spivey)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Animal Fantasy Books
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 12:19:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:30033/5.0

JM>   Animals with human characterisitcs. JM>    These are very common
 titles and can be found in most libraries JM>(I'm a children's
 librarian.  Let me know if you need more.)
 
 Thank you Jim for the titles.  I have had problems with my communication
 software and could not reply until now.  Maybe you are on holiday and
 won't see this message until the New Year.  I am looking for the unusual
 titles.  Ian has read the ones you suggested.  Recently he has read a
 few by King-Smith and yesterday a little paperback, "Bethoven's Cat".  I
 also found "Hare's Choice" that he has yet to read.  He has read Ursula
 LeGuin's "catwing" books, the Brian Jacques books, "Redwall", etc.  If
 you have anyother thoughts, appreciate any and all titles related to
 this area of interest.  I did post my question on *Prodigy earlier this
 month and got a lot of science fiction books -- am not sure if they are
 really appropriate for a nine year old.  I'm sure he could read them,
 but that is not the challenge.  Thanks again.  Linda
 
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Newsgroups: mn.general
From: Dennis Fazio <dfazio@MR.Net>
Subject: Re: twin cities area PPP sites?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A766989C2A026535@dialip-53.mr.net>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Dec 92 00:06:52 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Distribution: MN
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 06:15:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.202223.1687@brainiac.mn.org> Jeffrey Comstock,
jrc@brainiac.mn.org writes:
>That reminds me - What is the status of MRNet offering internet dialup
>services ?  I heard it would be available Jan 93.  What is the projected
>pricing schedule ?  (It is about 2 bucks/hour in Michigan and Colorado).

We are working to have the dialup SLIP service available in late January.
Most of the technical stuff is in place and working (lines, modems,
servers). Work still needs to be
done on documentation and final adjustments on News and Gopher servers.
We will
post an announcement in this newsgroup when ready including pricing.

Macintosh and DOS PC will initially be supported with Unix and NeXT to
follow.
Stay tuned for further info.
--
Dennis Fazio
Minnesota Regional Network
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: loriann@vector.cray.com (Lori Gilbertson)
Subject: Wanted - Womans bicycle  
Reply-To: loriann@vector.cray.com (Lori Gilbertson)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.  Eagan, MN.
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:55:21 CST

I'm looking for a used 26 inch womans hybrid bike - 
combination road bike/mountain bike.  Please call
Lori Gilbertson 715-549-6400 or 612-683-3433 (work)
if you have one you'd like to sell.


Newsgroups: mn.general
From: cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (A. Cosar)
Subject: Re: What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''?
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: mn
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:54:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.214838.15234@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@msi-i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (A. Cosar) writes:
>
>>Send me an e-mail if you want to learn more, if you know how to use
>>mail, that is ...
>
>Damn!  I *knew* I couldn't fool everyone much longer.  I meant to
>learn e-mail, I really did.  Just never got around to it.  Maybe I can take
>one of those CIS classes on it or something.

Is this all you will say? I thought you were trying to 'accomplish'
something as you said:

>>>So far, people trying to contact either the sysadmin at anatolia or
>>>Serdar Argic have been utterly unsuccessful.  I'd like to see if anyone
>>>knows either one of them or knows how to contact them, by phone, in
>>>person, at a UUM meeting, whatever.  That's what I'm trying to
>>>accomplish here.

What will you do now? Join the 'trying to contact by junk-mailing' mob?
That's what your pen-pal (Paul Pomes, the so-called 'postmaster' of UIUC.EDU) 
did after all...



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Disc space -- the final frontier!                                               ________________________________________________________________________

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Disclaimer: I speak for myself<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin)
Subject: Re: What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''?
Organization: School of Statistics, University of Minnesota
Distribution: mn
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:39:45 GMT

Geez...

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Newsgroups: mn.general
From: rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey)
Subject: Re: What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''?
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Distribution: mn
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:19:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.214838.15234@news2.cis.umn.edu>, molenda@msi-i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
|> cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (A. Cosar) writes:
|> 
|> >Send me an e-mail if you want to learn more, if you know how to use
|> >mail, that is ...
|> 
|> Damn!  I *knew* I couldn't fool everyone much longer.  I meant to
|> learn, I really did.  Just never got around to it.  Maybe I can take
|> one of those CIS classes on e-mail.

	Heh! Obviously Mr. Cosar is a new commer to the MN e-mail/news
	scene and doesn't know Jason's background. Chuckle...

	Could this piss fight be moved to e-mail? It's using alot of
	bandwidth for little purpose.

	Also, Mr. Cosar. You obviously have a home feed so could you
	please stop using mine and others tax dollars at the umn.edu site from
	which you are posting? Thank you.

	We now return you to your regularly scheduled piss fight...

		-Rob
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: molenda@msi-i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about anatolia.mn.org -or- ``Serdar Argic''?
Reply-To: molenda@msi.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:52:48 GMT

wfk@lynx.spa.umn.edu (Bill Ketzeback) writes:

Hi Bill.

> 55454?????  Since there is no "net police" (THANK GOD) what are we
> supposed to do about it?

Please read my entire message (i.e. don't just quote the whole thing
;).  I said I'm assuming the sysadmin at anatolia is ignorant of
netiquette and could use a gentle reminder to check out the messages in
news.announce.newusers.  

Ignorant until proven obnoxious, I say! :)

Although there are no ``net police'' (and I would disagree with that;
they just aren't as overt as you would think), there are accepted norms
of behavior on the net.  i.e. don't post business ads on the net except
in biz.*.  

People regularly overstep these conventions, and are subsequently
flamed by everyone and their brother.  I have seen only a few isolated
instances where the person _knew better_ but was being obnoxious
anyway; in most of the cases I have seen, once the poster was informed
what convention was (and why it was so), they would cease and desist.

So far, people trying to contact either the sysadmin at anatolia or
Serdar Argic have been utterly unsuccessful.  I'd like to see if anyone
knows either one of them or knows how to contact them, by phone, in
person, at a UUM meeting, whatever.  That's what I'm trying to
accomplish here.
-- 
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SGI Iris Admin        molenda@jason.msi.umn.edu       DoD #1867     '77 CB750F
               just another elitist Usenet administrator
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
Subject: Re: What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: mn
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:15:39 GMT

cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (A. Cosar) writes:

>What will you do now? Join the 'trying to contact by junk-mailing' mob?
>That's what your pen-pal (Paul Pomes, the so-called 'postmaster' of UIUC.EDU) 
>did after all...

Listen, my intentions are something like this.  I saw a lot of people,
many of them respected net.citizens (such as Paul Pomes, who I've had
the pleasure to work with on several occasions over the years),
complaining about this site which appears to be based in Minnesota.  I
looked into it a bit and noticed that your site was helping to
propagate the material people were complaining about and I, being a
relatively nice person I like to think, was trying to be helpful and
see if you were aware of what this person on zuma.UUCP was doing.

You are obviously not ignorant of Usenet and are aware of your actions
and the actions of the site to which you provide a feed.  

As a person local to all of this, I thought it a rather responsible
thing of me to try some form of communication.  Other people in
news.admin.policy had little luck trying to contact you via email.

Usenet is an anarchy with some social conventions that people *usually*
choose to follow.  And as long as someone is willing to feed you and
zuma.UUCP, you can spew out whatever y'all want.  There is clearly
nothing I can do either in cutting the garbage or education; I can
happily add all of this to my killfiles and go about my business.

take care
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Newsgroups: mn.general
From: clayh+@MUDLHEAD.NETWORK.COM (Clayton Haapala)
Subject: Re: novell acquires USL from AT&T?
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 18:14:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.095105.29220@walter.cray.com>, osh@cray.com (O'Shaughnessy John) writes:
|> It was in today's StarTribune.  Novell is the proud new owner of USL.
|> 
|> 
|> They've been a strong influence over USL over the past couple of years with
|> the Univel product / project.  It will be interesting to see what changes

The price will probably go up to $7000/machine, to compete with other Novell
products.

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7625 Boone Ave N MS10
Minneapolis, MN 55428-1099
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: dfazio@riverside.mr.net (Dennis Fazio)
Subject: Bulletin Board Operator needed
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network
Distribution: mn
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:52:44 GMT

I am posting on behalf of someone who is looking to start a commercial
bulletin board to serve a specialized community of users. It would be
supported by subscription fees. He is an attorney and CPA and wants to
start a business. He needs an engineer/operator/system administrator
to set up and maintain a bulletin board system for this business. 
This would be a long-term relationship, and possibly a partnership 
arrangement of some sort. I do not believe that any financial commitment is
necessary--only skill and knowhow. This looks to be close to a full time
task, at least initially.

If interested in finding out more, contact:

Ross Kaplan
871-5375

Newsgroups: mn.general
From: dougm@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Doug Mcintyre)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: RE: Novell and USL
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:22:43 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer) writes:
>
>I just heard on "Market Place" (a popular business program on 91.1FM)
>that AT&T has swapped Unix System Laboratories for some stock or
>something with Novell.  Can anyone verify this?  I'm not exactly sure I
>like the sound of it if it's true...
>
>derek
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>"Big business and big government distract us with entertainment;
> they manufacture our consent while we destroy the environment."


        It was in the paper a day or two ago.. Of course, since the Strib
reports down to everybody, we'll have to wait for the trade papers to come out
next week to report details..


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From: bergstro@src.honeywell.com (Pete Bergstrom)
Subject: Re: UUPC on an 8088?
To: mn.general
Posted-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 09: 27:41 CST
Organization: mailEnteringNews at Honeywell SRC
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:27:41 GMT
Received-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 09: 27:42 CST

derekt@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Derek Terveer) wrote:

>Clayton Haapala (clay@haapi.mn.org) wrote:
>: A prospective MN.Org member wants to know if he can run UUPC on an
>: 8088 Compaq computer.  Any of you UUPC experts out there know if this
>: can be done or not?
>
>Depending on the version of uupc and other unix-mail/news-under-dos
>clones, it will probably run on an 8088.  I saw and worked with a
>version that ran on the 8086.   However, it may not be very feature
>rich, like some of the more powerful versions due to the limitations of
>the 8088.

I had UUPC running under OS/2 for 6 months or so and it worked fine.
There were two versions of the binaries and (I think) just one version
of sources, although low-level drivers were split between dos and
OS/2 files.

Pete
From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: Re: UUPC on an 8088?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 13:06:27 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

trashman@crud.mn.org (Barry Schwartz) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Dec21.181154.2247@pwcs.stpaul.gov> derekt@pwcs.stpaul.gov wri
>  > 
>  > Clayton Haapala (clay@haapi.mn.org) wrote:
>  > : A prospective MN.Org member wants to know if he can run UUPC on an
>  > : 8088 Compaq computer.  Any of you UUPC experts out there know if this
>  > : can be done or not?
>  > : clay@haapi.mn.org
>  > 
>  > Depending on the version of uupc and other unix-mail/news-under-dos
>  > clones, it will probably run on an 8088.  I saw and worked with a
>  > version that ran on the 8086.   However, it may not be very feature
>  > rich, like some of the more powerful versions due to the limitations of
>  > the 8088.
> 
> Users who are interested in Netnews will find that there isn't any
> strong support for news in UUPC/extended, although it is currently
> under development.  There is an add-on called Snews available, but it
> is fragile.  (However, it doesn't eat as much disk space as the
> built-in UUPC news support will.)  MSDOS users who want a plug-in news
> system ought to check out Waffle and FSUUCP instead.  (These systems
> may, however, do less to protect against filename clashes than does
> late-model UUPC/extended.)
> 
Waffle should work for what you need and will provide news and mail services
on the dos machine.  I am fairly sure there shouldn't be much of a problem
in running this on an XT, though it would depend on the memory the machine
has, and how many news groups you want to get.

As for Waffle protecting against filename clashes, Waffle does a pretty good
job.  For starters, Waffle takes the long filenames (D.wahtever2a35d2) and
munges them down to a letter or two followed by what appears to be a sequence
number (end result would look like TA2A35D2.D), since the first part is 
generally the UUCP name of the system.  These files are then stored in a 
directory defined by SYSTEMS in \Waffle\UUCP (waf 1.65 version).  When UUXQT
is run, it looks in SYSTEMS and then goes to those directorys looking
for .X files to execute.  The end result is less possibility of filename
clashing and loss of data.

If I understand the problems mentioned above with UUPC and VIRTUAL_NAME,
Waffle should not have problems with this either.

[NOTE:  I do not have source to Waffle and don't know C, so I couldn't tell
you 100% if this is what is really happening with Waffle, my comments are 
based upon what I see Waffle doing and from the DOCS for Waffle].

Greg

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From: derekt@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Derek Terveer)
Subject: Re: What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''?
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: mn
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:07:07 GMT

Craig Wilson (craig@com50.c2s.mn.org) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec30.055451.19940@news2.cis.umn.edu> rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin) writes:
: >Geez...
: 
: Loo-eez...

MeeeeooooooWWWWWW!

derek
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From: zaphod@tfsquad.mn.org (Bryen Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: Re: UUPC on an 8088?
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 09:40:58 CST
Organization: tfsquad public access insane asylum, St Paul MN (+1 612 291 2632)

trashman@crud.mn.org (Barry Schwartz) writes:

> MSDOS users who want a plug-in news
> system ought to check out Waffle and FSUUCP instead.  (These systems
> may, however, do less to protect against filename clashes than does
> late-model UUPC/extended.)

We here at tfsquad are running Waffle on a DOS machine, and have had no
problems whatsoever receiving mail from kksys/tcnet.. Waffle's rmail goes
by what system it happens to be connected to, in this case "tcnet," rather
than what the D.kksysdkfjd/X.kksyskjdf file happens to have in it's filename.
We don't get news here from mn.org, though, but I don't see as how there would
be a problem receiving that, either.

-b.

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Saint Paul, Minnesota
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