HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dblakele@hercules.acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Installing CD-ROM Drive
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:51:27 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Originator: dblakele@raphael.acpub.duke.edu

Er, ahem, dumb question time from the physician who mungs Unix well:

I'm in the process of hooking up a CD-ROM drive to upgrade to NS3.0.
I just interrogated the SCSI bus using SCSIInquirer on my upgraded
68040 cube.  The targets that showed up were:

SCSI #0  No device
SCSI #1  MAXTOR XT-8760S
SCSI #2  No device
SCSI #3  No device
SCSI #4  PLI Super Floppy
SCSI #5  No device
SCSI #6  No device
SCSI #7  CPU Processor

Now, I'm a little confused here because the optical drive didn't show
up during the inquiry.  I'm running it as root, but still no luck.  Any
thoughts (because there wasn't any change when I popped in an OD and 
re-interrogated the bus) on this.  I know I'll have to terminate the
CD-ROM on the bus due to the cabling setup I have.

As for the issue of playing audio CD's, well that will have to wait for
later.  The CD-ROM is a loaner from Abacus R&D so I can test Executor
a Macintosh version of ProCite for a grant I'm working on down here
at Duke.  More on that later.  [Yeah, yeah, I was one of those lucky
guys who got his CD-ROM disk and cable, but no drive].

Peace


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From: guyaux@cs.ubc.ca (Francoise Guyaux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to Get Music Kit for 3.0?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 12:34:00 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: olympia.cs.ubc.ca

yes and no.
as mentioned in DSP.rtf (in the Developer's release notes)
you can or will be able to ftp it from
ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu
as I have done...
however I have trouble compiling some of their simplist examples
ie. Playnote.
however again, if one reads the MusicKit.README file which is in
the same directory as mk_inst.pkg.tar, one learns that the package(s)
are not yet ready and to try again in a couple of days.
-if you do have any success (such as successfully compiling this
last program) please share it with me.

Francoise


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: UUCP broken after NS 3.0 upgrade....
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:19:26 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn

hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:
>After upgrading to NS 3.0 I seem to have one significant problem.  The
>UUCP shell script that I run from crontab now no longer runs.  Other

>Any ideas on what could cause this problem?  Paths shouldn't be a problem
>since the script just cd's to the directory where my uucico is and then

Try invoking your command with the entire path; don't hope, that cron
gets it right.
I also have two uucp + News administrating tools, which run every
night and which send mail to root; they were broken, as they didn't
send mail anymore. Specifying mail as /usr/ucb/mail in crontab helped.
-- 
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My pants just went to high school in the Carlsbad Caverns!!!
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From: fuchs@tsar.princeton.edu (Ira H. Fuchs)
Subject: Printing in Webster
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: fuchs@tsar.princeton.edu
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:52:39 GMT

Everytime I try to print a definition from Webster (using CMD-p), I get  
postscript errors and nothing prints.If I try to use Preview it displays  
the proper text but gives the message:

The PostScript code of the document erroneously tried to return values to  
the application.  This error may result in an incomplete image.

Preview also fails to print the page.

Is this a known problem in 3.0?
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Considering getting an SGI indigo
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:42:13 GMT
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute

In article <1992Oct5.000811.21437@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip  
McDunnough) writes:
> 
> FCC B is a requirement for home use. NeXT does not accept any responsibility
> for costs or whatever which a home user may suffer in order to correct that
> interference. What if the interference happens to result in something
> serious happening?
>  
> I use a Cube at home. I am extremely concerned at this time re the lack of
> FCCB (and the equivalent up here) status of my equipment. It is unclear to me
> just how liable I would be for some serious mishap.
>  
> If NeXT does not want to get their equipment certified for home use (and  
their
> whole approach seems to be that people should be in work groups, networked
> together, programming mission critical apps) then it would not be a minor
> thing to even suggest that they should be used at home.
>  
> Mine will move to work shortly unless more information is provided regarding
> the extent of liability. 
> 
> Mac's, and all Apple equipment, are Class B. I can't conclude that it's OK.
> It's in fact very disconcerting.
>  

I'm still trying to determine what it is you're worried about. I've used a NeXT  
at home for something close to 4 years now--and we're talking about a system  
that was pre-FCC certification (motherboard serial #AAG0000360) for three  
years, until I got an '040 upgrade--without the slightest hint of interference  
with our TVs, radios, stereos, etc. I'm old enough (he said, stroking his  
grizzled beard) to remember having funny patterns appear on the TV screen in  
the next room when I would plug in and turn on my Apple II some 12 years  
back--*that's* what the FCC certification is trying to prevent. 

The bottom line: the most serious mishap which you could cause with your NeXT  
system at home would be to hold it out the window and drop it on someone. Other  
than that, you don't have much to worry about.  ..bfw..

Bruce F. Webster
CTO, Pages Software Inc.
bwebster@pages.com
#import <pages/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Subject: Re: .login for Workspace??
Organization: Universitaet Koblenz (FB Informatik)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:19:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.002205.14850@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph  
Good) writes:
> 
> Is there a file that can be executed when workspace starts up?
> 
> I noticed that Workspace has a -LoginProgram YES when it is 
> activated, so I'm curious.

as _root_ (because loginwindow allways runs as root process), you can say
	dwrite loginwindow LoginHook /some/executable/path
which will execute the given program when loging in. The same works
for LogoutHook.

See NeXTanswers, workspace.500 for more detail.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: UUCP broken after NS 3.0 upgrade....
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:34:49 GMT

After upgrading to NS 3.0 I seem to have one significant problem.  The
UUCP shell script that I run from crontab now no longer runs.  Other
things in crontab seem to be ok.  Chime bongs at me every 15 mintes
no problem.  But the UUCP script that's suppoed to run every other
hour now fails to start up.

Any ideas on what could cause this problem?  Paths shouldn't be a problem
since the script just cd's to the directory where my uucico is and then
invokes it.  I dunnno.  Anyone else encountered this?

- hacker
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Phone: (703) 356-6514    Internet: hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us

"I am the very instantiation of object oriented evil!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Fixed Width Fonts for Stuart/Terminal Users
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:04:22 GMT



A little while ago I posted an article enquiring about fixed width fonts
to use with Terminal/Stuart with the usual "mail me, I'll summarise".
After waiting for nearly two weeks I've had to conclude that everyone is
perfectly happy with the standard fixed-width fonts.

I got one reply from Dan Yacktman (yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu) suggesting
I get nostalgic and use the font from the Apple ][ emulator. Well I'm
not that nostalgic (I used to use an Apple ][ quite a bit.)

-- 
Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)
"Giving money and power to governments is like giving whiskey and
 car keys to teenage boys" - P.J.O'Rourke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: 70372.1254@compuserve.com (Jim Bloom)
MMDF-Warning:  Parse error in original version of preceding line at demon.demon.co.uk
Subject: CUBE,LASER 4 SALE
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:58:49 +0000

'030 CUBE 16 MB RAM 320 MB HARD DISK
NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer.
PLI 2.88 MB Floppy Drive.
ALl original boxes, manuals, etc...
Full set of technical documentation.
ALl equipment in beautiful condition.
No OD.  $3500 or best offer.  Must sell this.
Jim Bloom 612-941-0696 (work)  612-546-8948 (Home)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: Alternate monitors
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:16:51 GMT

>Has anyone out there tried hooking up alternate color monitors to
>the NeXT? The 17" trinitron is pretty steep from them and is available
>from some of the mac mail order places for around $1200. Does the
>NeXT monitor have any extra cable routing or extras like their monochrome
>display does or is it just a color monitor with a standard cable?

Yes. I have a Sony GDM-1936 connected to my NS color. However, the slabs
have a funky 13W3 connector which is accommodated on monitors purchased
from NeXT. 3rd party monitors must use an adapter for BNC connectors, which
can be purchased as a NeXT service part (#S4025 $70.00). This adapter splits
the monitor feed into RGB, and into a separate connector which goes to the
SoundBox (which you must have by the way, since the keyboard plugs into
it).

Also, make sure your monitor can support the following specs (most modern
multiscanning monitors can, but not all):

	Minimum resolution: 1120 x 832
	Horizontal Scan Rate: 61 kHz
	Vertical Scan Rate: 68 Hz (72 Hz for new turbos) non-interlaced

Also, the ability to adjust the position and size of the display is a big
plus for tweaking the picture for maximum benefit. Convergence adjustments
are useful as well.

Hope this helps. I could have used the info two months ago myself. If I've
made any mistakes here, please correct me...

Michael McCulloch
Huntsville, AL
mmcculloch@nebula.tbe.com
NeXTmail accepted!
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: The New Browser
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:08:06 GMT
Reply-To: sean@digaudio.byu.edu

In article <1bcto8INN7vp@gap.caltech.edu>  writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.115817.1020@yvax.byu.edu>  writes:
>> [stuff delted]
>>You can move the scrollbar and nothing will happen.
>> [more stuff deleted]
>>In NeXTSTEP, when you drag a scrollbar, something happens--a window
>>scrolls, or a value changes, or whatnot.  But the browser doesn't do
>>realtime changes...it's weird.  I think NeXT should go back to the
> ^^^^^^^^^
>
>Realtime responses to user actions was just a bug that accidentally crept  
into
>NeXTstep 2.x when they introduced the monochrome 'stations. It's been  
fixed in
>3.0.


whoops...fergot yer smilely.  :)
--

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sean@digaudio.byu.edu  
NeXTmail and nifty Mac stuff welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: prim!dave@germany.eu.net (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: News Readers for NS 3.0 and other bitches
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:00:24 GMT

In article <4+yzy+_@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
>jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joe Chin) writes:
>> Okay ... I upgraded the production systems to 3.0, ...
>> 
>> But then I found out neither Newsbase 2.1.1 nor NewsGrazer will work!
>
>I don't know about Newsbase.  I had no trouble with NewsGrazer under 3.0.
>
>I did have one disappointment with NewsGrazer, though.  It was my  
>understanding from beta-tester reports that 3.0 would fix the dreaded  
>"sending mail while a Send Window is already open in Mail" bug.  Under  
>release 2.x, hitting "Reply" in NewsGrazer would open up a new send window  
>in mail, but then wipe out the message that was sitting in a previous send  
>window (if there was one already open).
>
>I thought this was supposed to be fixed in Release 3.0, but the behavior  
>seems about the same to me.
>

I believe the unofficial Mail API has been enhanced so that you can avoid
the problem by making use of the new API, but for reasons of backward
compatibility existing programs that use the old API will still cause
problems. Maybe someone at NeXT could spend ten minutes to upgrade
NewsGrazer to use the new API?

Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eshuck@slate.mines.colorado.edu (SHUCK EDWARD LEE )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Reading NeXTmail on other unix systems
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:33:42 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

I have received Nextmail at my normal mail address on an IBM
RS-6000.  Is there any way to make this readable on this 
system or to read the uuencoded file on a Next after transferring
the file. 
I have not found the answer to this one in the FAQ or the Next 
docs.
Thanks for your help,
Ted Shuck		eshuck@mines.colorado.edu
From: ricardo@chuy (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Edit.app in 3.0.  Goto Line # removed!
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:32:36 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <PAUL.92Oct6104321@music.sie.arizona.edu>  
paul@music.sie.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
> Did I miss something, or did they actually remove the "jump to line #"
> feature (command-l) from Edit?  How could they do this???
> --paul

I guess you did missed something.  I'm using Edit.app in 3.0 and Command-l  
still works.

--
+ Ricardo J. Parada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mroosen@prl.philips.nl (Monique Roosen)
Subject: Which PC Configuration for running NeXt Step ??
Reply-To: mroosen@prl.philips.nl
Organization: Information & Software Technology, Philips Eindhoven
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:41:59 GMT

Hello,

I'm asking this on behalf of a friend of mine who has no access to News.
Please send all responses to his e-mail address : vdaele@ieper.lhs.be

************************************************************************
Which PC configuration is needed to run NeXT Step on a PC.
I want to buy one right now, but I want to be able to run  NeXT Step.

Many thanks in advance !!

Regards,
Marc van Daele

***********************************************************************

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: 72011.10@compuserve.com (Mitch Alland)
Subject: Mathematica 2.0 sale!
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:24:28 +0000

Having sold my Cube, I'm selling off the remaining peripherals and software. 
If you want Mathematica 2.0 please make me an offer and let me have your
address.  I'll ship c.o.d. by second day UPS.  I'll write to Wolfram to
transfer the registration.

--Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joe Chin)
Subject: News Readers for NS 3.0 and other bitches
Reply-To: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 11:13:58 GMT

Okay ... I upgraded the production systems to 3.0, I am impressed by all the new bells and whistles and imaginative abuses of colours ...

But then I found out neither Newsbase 2.1.1 nor NewsGrazer will work! Both readers will start up and select the groups just fine, but the application will disappear from the screen the moment I select an article for reading. So, I have resorted to reading news on a Sun Sparcstation sitting beside the NeXT. Does anyone know a NeXTstep nntp newsreader that will work under 3.0?

While I am at it, the more I use 3.0, the more I get pissed off! The server crashed twice in the last two days with a "Workspace Error 1000" ... what does it mean? Why isn't the user manual included on my 3.0 CD-ROM? Why doesn't Appleshare work as advertised? Hell ... it doesn't work at all! Is NeXT using paying customers to beta test NS 3.0? When will 3.1 be available? It better be a free upgrade!

Joe
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From: pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin)
Subject: Re: What causes the GUI's slowness under 3.0?
Keywords: 3.0
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 21:00:49 GMT

In article <BvuzAH.9s.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.032553.26343@eng.ufl.edu> pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu 
>(Paul A. Griffin) writes:
>>c. If it is a bug, is there a simple fix that an end user, or system
>>administator can implement?  Does NeXT plan on releasing the bug fix
>>before 3.1 arrives?
>
>Yes, I think so.  Boot with more buffers.  This makes a HUGE
>difference.  Before increasing the number of buffers, my NeXTstation
>mono (25MHz) cralwed with 3.0.  Now it doesn't seem like it's slower
>than 2.1 to me (subjective, might be because of the way I use it).
>-- 
>Doug DeJulio
>ddj+@cmu.edu

It's nice to know that there is a way of speeding up the 3.0 GUI 
by increasing the number of buffers, and baring any better solution,
that is what I will do when my cdrom/3.0 upgrade arrives in late December.

But is that the root of the problem? Namely, that the number of buffers 
initially alocated by 3.0 is less than the number alocated by 2.x?  
If so, then it's a simple bug to fix.  

There could be other explainations.  From reading complaints on the net,
my best guesses are that the problem arises from one of the following:
1. Workspace Manager might be much larger in 3.0 than 2.x, and require more
   real memory when moving windows around, etc.  On my 2.1 machine 
   Workspace Manager asks for about 20 mb of (mostly virtual) memory.
2. Workspace Manager is slower because of a new feature, like distributed
   objects.
3. Workspace Manager has a bug.
4. NeXT also has added compressed paging and/or swapping.  Maybe the 
   memory management is slower in 3.0 than in 2.x, due to a bug or
   the implementation of compression. 

I also noticed a number of people claiming that the two pre-release
versions of 3.0 had snappier window management than the final 
public version.  This makes the problem sound like a bug fix that 
in turn generated a new bug!

-- 
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Department of Physics          Fax: (904)-392-0524
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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Plea to NeXT: Re: (Shipping packaging)
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:25:47 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.

In article <timm.718556164@xongmao> timm@xongmao.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren)  
writes:
> [...]
> In any case, the point of my post was to also point out that it's
> quite impossible for a pixel to be dead on a monitor.  That's only
> possible on LCDs.  You've got a piece of phosphor missing.  If a pixel
> were actually dead, you'd have a problem with your video hardware,
> not the monitor.
> 
You are MOST incorrect.  While CRT display elements (pixels) do not have an  
exact 1:1 relationship with displayed elements (pixels), in a mask screen  
display, that is, all non-inline (sony) types, it is VERY possible to lose a  
triad of the three colors, and hence lose a pixel.  A black dot on the screen.    
I received TWO 21" monitors in a row with that exact problem.  The third was  
the charm!  This occurs when a piece of trash in the vacuum falls forward and  
lodges in a mask hole.  It is virtually impossible to get all the debris out of  
a CRT, and so there's always the chance of losing a pixel if the monitor is  
ever placed on it's face.  Lay it that way, and shake, and your chance of  
having it happen is even worse.
In-line monitors do not have this problem.  But they have those awful horz.  
support wires that hold the vertical ones in the correct position.  When Sony  
invented that screen design, those lines were hidden by the lines in the TV  
picture!

The 'bottom' line is:  Never place a color monitor face down.  And realize that  
when you ship it, modern automated handling equipment can't read, and so "this  
side up" is ignored.  It is possible NeXT made special arrangements with their  
preferred shipper (Skyway?), but the biggies cannot guarantee the monitor will  
stay face up or front.  You can improve your odds in some cases by placing the  
shipping label and papers on the box TOP.

> Sorry to pick nits when it's of no use to you :-).
> 
> -- 
> Tim McClarren     | "...a bajillion brilliant Jobsian lithium licks."
> timm@ncsa.uiuc.edu|
> (217)244-0015     |

Jim De Arras
From: rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:53:58 GMT
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <BvtoDw.F03@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)  
writes:
>>In article <y&#@byu.edu> yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes:
>>> They can be stored compressed, but then you don't have
>>> access to the info inside.  (What would be great, though, is to set things
>>> up so that a ".psZ" file would be zcatted into Preview...hmmm...)
>>
>>Uh, doesn't anyone use Opener anymore?  Clicking on a
>>ps.Z works fine on my machine.  If it doesn't on yours, you
>>really should install Opener.  Saves me tons of time (but I
>>spend a lot of time looking at compressed tar files and
>>documents) every day. 
>>
>>ab

Me too but with the WorkSpace in 3.0 :-)  Bye bye Opener, Unknown etc. etc....
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