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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Marty Blake on Hurley
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:08:31 GMT

In article 9@ms.uky.edu, fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>|Jim Kirkman writes:
>|
>|>Blake basically said hogwash, he likes Hurley but sees him as no
>|>more than a possible 1st or 2nd rounder. His main point seemed to
>|>be that Bart would have a helluva time guarding people like 
>|>Stockton, Price, et. al. The most interesting comment was in 
>|>regards to Kenny Anderson, said Hurley "hasn't seen the day he 
>|>could stay with Anderson" !!!???
>|
>|Blake is no seer. Find out what he originally thought Price's
>|chances would be. Hurley won't be the 1st guard taken: "Gamera"
>|Hardaway and Allen Houston will go before him. But whoever takes
>|him will get a fantastic point guard. Does Stockton keep up
>|with Anderson? 
>|
>|-- 
>|Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> 


Sports Illustrated had an article on Hurley and quoted Barkley as
saying that the first time the Hurley led collegians came up against
the dream team, Hurley blew by Stockton.  All the dream teamers were
impressed by the little guy.  Who knows.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:22:17 GMT

Rob Mac:

RJ> Well, in this game in particular, Duke had so many free throws
RJ> (especially in the first half) because every time they had an inside
RJ> shot, Tech elected to foul them and make them earn their points from
RJ> the line.  Good strategy considering Duke players haven't exactly been
RJ> burning it up from the line recently.  Unfortunately for them (luckily
RJ> for us) several days of intense free-throw practice seem to have paid
RJ> off, particularly for Grant Hill.  Duke's opponents generally don't
RJ> shoot as many free throws because the thin Duke front line is coached
RJ> not to foul on interior shots, reasoning that a few misses from the
RJ> line
RJ> doesn't outweigh putting any of the four front-liners on the bench
RJ> with foul problems.  Plus, Dukies generally don't go for the steal on
RJ> the dribble, thus avoiding reach-in fouls.  I'd guess more than 90% of
RJ> Duke's steals come by way of intercepted passes, where you're not
RJ> nearly as likely to get called for a foul.

This is good. I see what you are saying.

RJ> Okay dude, next time we're on the playground, and I'm setting a pick
RJ> and as you come by I deliver a forearm to your head, just remember
RJ> that was no foul.

Mackey - 6'11"  Hurley - 6' Hurley was croutched down in a defensive
posture. It just so happens that this posture made his head level with
Mackey's mid section. Did you see Mackey EMPHASIZE the forearm? Did it
look CHEAP or like it was malicious and meant to harm. Could you say that
you wouldn't brace yourself like he did? 

There was no foul. Mackey had position, and Hurley ran into him. Mackey
didn't try to decapitate him. If you think so, then great, but I and the
majority of others think differently "dude."

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From: sgskaggs@eos.ncsu.edu (Steven G. Skaggs)
Subject: Re: UNC vs NCSU
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:02:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.005057.7848@ncsu.edu> rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN) writes:
>
>    Actually, Robinson has nothing to worry about from what I hear.  The team
>is really that close to taking it to a higher level.  Adversity (ie-suicide
>of team member), loss of key players(Feggins to gunshot wound, Kornegay-Knox
>-and Seale to Academic woes) have really set this team back.  But every time 
>they get in a hole they come back.  Came within 10 of KU at KU, Came to within
>three of UConn, Rallied from 19 pts. down with Oregon St. to win by 1,
>Never quiting in the UNC disaster, and almost beating UVA.  I really like this
>teams tenacity and work effort. I think if things go right in the offseason
>that this could be an exceptional team.  But to finish,Robinson is in no way
>in jeopardy. I think he runs one of the more exciting and clean programs in the
>country and given time will be back in the NCAA's again.
>-- 
>--rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu

For the most part, Richard, I agree with you.  This team has shown a lot
of heart in the face of adversity and may be able to pull of a couple
upsets this year.  Freshmen Wilson, Fuller, and Kornegay should provide
some hope for the future.  However, I don't think that I'm as optimistic
as you may be.  Although there have been no NCAA restrictions on our team
for some time now, the negative image persists.  Reputations, once
earned, can take years to lose.  It's interesting to read (here and in
the press) that everyone seems to respect Les Robinson as a coach and one
who runs a clean program, but they still have the idea that our
basketball program is corrupt.

I am very pleased with Robinson and the job he's doing here.
Personally, I'm not concerned with our won-lost record at this point.
However, there are many athletic boosters out there who may not be as
patient as I am.  It will be at LEAST two or three years, probably more 
IMHO, before we are competitive enough to be a top 25 team. I hope the
athletic boosters allow Les that time.

At any rate, I hope that all of my fellow Wolfpack fans will stand by Les
and the boys.  It was great to see that everyone stuck around and
loudly supported the team at the Carolina game even after the outcome was
obvious.

Steve
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight: A Year-by-Year Chronology
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:37:23 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1953@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> kdougan@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kelly Dougan) writes:
>        There are a few other things you forgot to post.  A few years ago
>their were long lines waiting for tickets to an IU game and Bobby called up
>Dominos and ordered 50 large pizza's to be delivered to those in line.  I also

Kudos to Coach Knight!  Even Coach K, who has an annual pizzafest for
K-ville residents, orders from Hungry Howie's, the cheapest pizza in
Durham.  Fifty Domino's pizzas must've cost the guy an arm and a leg.

Although in K's defense, Hungry Howie's isn't that bad.

- Rob Mac K



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From: johnm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (John Morris)
Subject: What date is DUKE @ GA TECH ???
Reply-To: johnm@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:25:20 GMT

Howdy Sports fans,

I'm an ACC guy lost in the state of Texas and need some info.
I'm sure by now somebody knows what the date and time of the
GT/Duke game is this weekend (schedule says 1/9 OR 1/10).

Could someone e-mail me (or post) the date/time?? Also, which
network is carrying it (still CBS?)

Thanks
John

Go Fuzzy Bees!
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From: lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: 3-pt. futility
Date: 4 Jan 1993 09:04:05 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
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Stanford managed to wipe out Santa Clara this weekend, the main reason 
being that SC went 9 for 55 and 0 for 19 from 3-pt territory.

My question: is the 0fer19 a record?  Has any team taken more 3-pt. shots
and failed to hit any?

Henry

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: MORE BAD NEWS FOR FSU
Keywords: Andre Reid
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 18:01:53 GMT


Well, it looks as if FSU has gotten yet another piece of bad news this season.
It appears that the injury to Andre Reid is going to keep him out of the rest
of the season. In the paper, Pat Kennedy was reported as saying that the 
injury to Reid will require Reid to have a pin in his hand until sometime
during the summer. Kennedy said that Reid will try to get a medical redshirt
so he won't loose his eligibility for this year. This news leaves FSU with 
just one true center, John Kerner, and he is a freshman. FSU will sorely need
a big-man in the ACC play, and this means that Kerner will probably get a
baptism of fire if Byron Wells and Rodney Dobard don't match up against the
big-men of the ACC. Charlie Ward has provided the only good news of the year
by returning to the team. However, Ward will not be the starter for a while
until he gets into shape. He will be on the bench in the Virginia game
tonight, and possibly for the follwing game against Wake.

My bad feeling about this season seems to have gotten worse, I hope this is
the end of the injury spree though (by the way, both Bob Sura and freshman
Derrick Carroll are also a bit dinged up as well, but both are still able to
play).

Kevin



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From: sjhodges@eos.ncsu.edu (STEVEN JAMES HODGES)
Subject: Re:  UNC vs NCSU
Originator: sjhodges@c00069-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: sjhodges@eos.ncsu.edu (STEVEN JAMES HODGES)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:25:33 GMT


	Well, I don't think the team could get any worse than they are now. Now
they probably won't win another game this season unless Seale and
Kornegay are declared eligible again for this season and then they might
win 1 or 2 games.
From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:51:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <C0r5wG.BE.2@cs.cmu.edu> landay+@cs.cmu.edu (James A Landay) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.015944.21212@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>>
>>I see.  He contracted "Ryan Drew's" disease.
>>Ryan was a terrific 3-pt shooter in is first year at Cal.
>>The next 3 years, he would come out at miss 5 of his first 6 shots
>>and Campanelli would *then* pull him out of the game.
>
>Actually, I would refer to it as Bryant Walton Disease (or even
>Chris Washington Disease.)  It has happened to EVERY shooting-guard
>since Lou has been coach.  He seems to be able to recruit (why,
>I don't know), but he is NOT a very good coach.  This has happened
>too often.  

If I remember right, Bryant Walton didn't lose his touch until
his senior year and he even got it back together in the last few games.

Chris Washington was always a good shooter.  I don't remember him
losing his touch like Drew or Dreher.  

>In addition, how many games have they blown over his
>tenure by not being able to make the inbound pass (see at Arizona about
>4 years ago...)  

Yeah, that game still hurts, but again it was a player (Roy Fisher, 
I believe) that threw the ball away twice.

>>I don't blame the coach when players lose their shooting ability.
>
>I do.  They lose their confidence, NOT ability.

Did you *see* Ryan Drew play?  He shot the lights out his freshman year.
He came back the next 3 seasons and made what seemed like 15% of his
3 pointers.

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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke-Oklahoma Game Summary
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:27:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan6.104702@trc.amoco.com> zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael) writes:
>Geez, give the guy a break!!  The guy was just pumped up.  All I have heard
>in these recent Duke posts is how Hamilton was showboating.  The guy just
>wasn't intimidated.  Pardon us if we don't all bow down in deference to Duke.  Thanks, but I'll pass.

Interesting that you pretty much never see this kind of crap on the
court at the "classy" programs, King Rice notwithstanding.

Teams with these "showboaters" always seem to get theirs in the end.

I think it's all fine and dandy to be excited and pumped up and to
express that, but when you express it by getting involved with the fans
you are not only acting like an ass, but you are also hurting your team
by losing your focus.

By the way, I saw the game later on ESPN, and you didn't catch the half
of it on TV.  Hamilton wasn't playing against five Duke guys, he thought
he was playing against 9,319 Duke guys.  Custer would shudder at those
odds.

You can have those a**holes, even Carolina isn't THAT bad. :)

- Rob Mac K



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Re: Utah Drills New Mexico
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date:  4 Jan 1993 16:30 MST  

Jeffrey:

In article <79063@hydra.gatech.EDU>, jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes...
{In article <4JAN199314070170@cc.utah.edu> ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes:
{>Utah 78, New Mexico 45
{>
{>(BOX at end)
{>
{>The state of Utah was burried by as much as 36" of snow, and the Lobos of 
{>New Mexico were burried by a strong performance by the Utes.  As a game 
{>hyped as a conference opening battle between two title contenders, this was
{>a total route.  Utah simply crushed the Lobos.
{ 
{Interesting.  The victory margin was almost the same as the number of 
{inches of snow.  There's got to be deep philosophical significance to
{that, but I don't know what it is.

Let's hope we get two feet of snow Feb 27 when BYU comes to town.....


{ 
{>Head coach Rick Majerus missed the New Mexico game for the second time in 
{>two years.  Last year he was hospitalized with a viral infection, and this
{>year he took off to North Carolina due to a death in the family.  The coaching
{>duties then fell to Asst. coach Joe Cravens who has taken over before, most
{>notably for the entire season three years ago when the Maji was recovering 
{>from heart surgery (septuple bypass ? I think that means 6x).  Ironically,
{ 
{Majerus better watch out.  If the Johnny Majors-Phil Fulmer situation at
{Tennessee is any indication, Rick may be replaced as head coach at Utah.
{Particularly if his assistants keep on winning games so handily.
{ 

I don't think this will be a problem.  Ast. Coach Joe Cravens is 18-14 at
the helm.  Plus the Maji is great at setting up a game plan.  The ast's
only need to push the right buttons.  If the game was really close then 
we would see Craven's real talent.  Plus, remember that the Year the Maji was
in the hospital the UTes only did OK (I don't remember the record), the 
next year was the 30 win season with many of the same players.

-Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu
From: chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU ("Bill Harrison (713)-743-2789")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UCSB
Date: 6 Jan 1993 17:42:28 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu



Hi...   Could somebody please e-mail me the results of UC Sanata Barbara's
basketball games so far this season. Both men's and women's would be 
appreciated... 

(The lame local newspapers here don't bother with "far west" results 
because they occur too late for press). 

Many thanks,   Go Gauchos!!
Bill


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: zaphiri@watson.ibm.com (Zaphiris Christidis)
Subject: Re: CNN/USA Today Rankings (1/11)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:59:00 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Keywords: rankings

>	USA TODAY /  CNN   TOP - 25  (Coaches Poll) (1/11/93)
>	-----------------------------------------------------
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       RANK	SCHOOL		RCD	POINTS		PRV
>							RANK
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>	1.  	Kentucky	11-0	832(26)		(2)
>	2.	Duke		10-1	798(5)		(1)
>	3.	Michigan	12-1	787(2)		(3)
>	4.	Indiana		13-2	720		(4)
>	5.	Kansas		11-1	719(1)		(6)
>	6.	North Carolina	12-1	689		(5)
>	7.	Seton Hall	13-1	640		(7)
>	8.	Georgia Tech.	9-1	606		(11)
>	9.	Oklahoma	11-2	535		(10)
>	10.	Arkansas	11-1	512		(13)
>	11.	CINCINNATI	9-1	441		(16)
>	12.	Arizona		7-2	404		(17)
>	13.	Iowa		11-2	397		(8)
>	14.	UCLA		10-3	373		(12)
>	15.	Purdue		9-2	335		(9)

Hey guys, in the new poll, Duke dropped only by one ??!!!
It seems a little strange to me since it lost to Gatech which 
is ranked #8 now. Moreover, Michigan is ranked below Duke
even though has won three games away from home, to opponents
ranked among the top 10 (Kansas, North Carolina, Purdue)!!!
Yes, Michigan lost to Duke, away from home in the beginning 
of the season, but that was a game were the teams were trying 
to adjust themselfs. However, this doesn't explain the reason 
why Michigan is ranked below Duke now, as with the same criteria 
Ga-Tech should have been ranked above Duke :-).   

It would be interesting to see if Michigan would be ranked
any higher, if (I say *if*) they win against Indiana in Ann
Arbor tomorrow.
 
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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cincinnati Chili, Re: B. Knight transfers
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:38:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


I suggest the chili thread be moved to alt.beans.fart.fart.fart.

- Rob Mac K


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From: pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna)
Subject: Re: Now I know why they make fun of Purdue AND MIT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:42:06 GMT

In article <OLIVER.93Jan11040740@ballard1.mit.edu> oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III) writes:
>
>Glenn Robinson will never be a big-time player until he learns that it's
>the 90s and he has to wear shorter socks.  What's next, an Afro?
>____________________________
>	Jim Oliver  
>	oliver@athena.mit.edu /	joliver@hstbme.mit.edu
>	oliver%mitwccf.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU


And you will be never taken seriously until you stop posting ridiculous
irrelevant articles.

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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Duke-Tech game
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:37:22 GMT

In article 3871@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov, oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>|In article <1993Jan10.004021.19154@ee.gatech.edu> wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter  
>|Wung) writes:
>|
>|> Max,  I kind of agree with you on Coach Cremins.  I think he has problems
>|> getting the most out of some of his palyers, but I love the guy because
>|> he is just such a great guy and he is so good for Tech.  He tries to help
>|> his players, he gets them jobs after their eligibility runs out so that 
>|> they can finish their degrees (Bruce Dalrymple),
>|
>|???  Do players have to pay tuition after their elgibility runs
>|out if they want to finish at Tech?  
>|
>|I agree with your positive comments about Cremins.  He is a really
>|nice guy.
>|
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Not just at Tech, but at all schools.  They get their tuition paid for as 
long as they are on the team.  Four or five school years, not sure which.  
Anything beyond that, they have to pay their own way.

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: UNC defeats NC State
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:44:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.190958.10949@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill) writes:

> Cherry - did some nice things during his time on the floor.  Looking like
> a solid mid-level European or Aussie league player.

How about that runner at the end of the first half!!!

> Cherry        7   1-2     2-2     2   1   2       4

And the 2-2 indicates that he has the requirements for greatness.

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