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From: djs55750@dcl-nxt01 (David John Schulz)
Subject: Amiga 2000HD w/ 3megs + modem + 1084s for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:01:23 GMT

Need to sell soon.  Systems includes:

Amiga 2000HD (with 52M Quantum drive)
             (with 3 megs RAM)
             (2.04 ROMS)
1084s Monitor
2400bps Modem




SOFTWARE:
	ProWrite 3.4 (manuals and all)
	Quarterback Utils
	Quarterback Backup 


All software comes with original packages.  All computer parts come with all
cables and manuals.

There is nothing wrong with this system (bought *new* August 1991).  I need
to sell for the money for bills, so this systems must go at the best offer I
can get.

I'm looking for something along the lines of $1500, OBO.

Contact me through email, or call at (217)332-3974 or leave a message at
(217)332-3228.  If calling, please ask for Matthew.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: basic A500 w/monitor and detached keyboard FOR SALE!
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:51:59 GMT

Same system with 512k Agnus, $350.  No lower, or I'll keep it.
Ship negotiable.

Thom
From: rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Amiga 3000 with 14 megs RAM and stuff: name your price!
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:46:31 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.


It's a stock Amiga 3000 with 14 megs in it .
40 meg hard drive/ 25mhz '30 chip
1950 monitor (multiscan)
with internal 2400 modem
and BOING! optical mouse..

Extras are:
	A genlock (AlterImage)
	MIDI conector and cables..

I NEED to get rid of it all but I need someone with intent to BUY and
a price, hopefully around $1600, but at this point, I need an offer.
If u live closeby (LA, OC area, even as far as San Diego), no P+H; I'll
deliver..

Please help this student get thru his education and be generous in buying
this machine that can subtitle, produce graphics, everything but wash windows.
Thank you and Happy Holidays,
Jyanken
From: 2416millingd@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: RE: DCTV for sale
Date: 16 Dec 1992 07:10:48 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2416millingd@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

  I posted my DCTV unit for sale a few days ago.  It has since been sold.  
Please refrain from sending any more offers.  Thanks.

Dan Milling
2416MILLINGD@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU
From: xlee@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Intel 14.4Ex Modem for Sale
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:02:02 GMT

Intel 14.4Ex Modem for Sale --> $350
I paid over $500 six months ago.

Modem is V.32bis with V.42bis.  Alway get 1620+cps with lha and dms files
Got original box, docs, software (Xtalk for IBM)

Leave email: xlee@bonnie.ics.uci.edu or eaiu340@orion.oac.uci.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: cdougs@crash.cts.com (Doug Sherburne)
Subject: A2000 2.04/HD/FFV for sale
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:31:57 GMT
Keywords: A2000 for sale

I have an A2000 for sale with the following included:

1.3 and 2.04 ROMS, running WB2.04
1mb Chip RAM on board

GVP Series II HC8 with SCSI
   4mb RAM installed (for total of 5)
   105mb Quantum hard disk

ICD Flicker Free Video board

Software: Amiga Vision, Games and lots of PD

Asking $950 + Shipping.

Please leave me mail if you're interested and we can
work out any details or call me in San Diego at
(619)582-5993. Ask for Doug.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: djp33563@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David J. Pugliese)
Subject: Supra 2400 bps external modem for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:17:57 GMT
Keywords: for sale

I am selling one Supra 2400 bps external modem.  Includes the latest revision
of MSS Online Platinum.  All original manuals/documentation are included.
$50.00

e-mail offers or inquiries to: d-pugliese@uiuc.edu

Dave Pugliese
djp33563@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: gkropf@bfield.uucp (Gary Kropf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Re: game query
Date: 19 Dec 92 06:17:29 EST
Organization: Bakers Field BBS

In article <CMM.0.90.4.724647534.mweil@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Marty D Weil
<mweil@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>
>
>Looking for keyboard cheat commands for the Arkanoid 2 game.
>The only one I have is "Robocoppeter" which allows you to start at
>the level on which you died.  There are supposed to be commands that
>allow you to skip levels(Magenta did not work), and also give you
>unlimited lives.  Please respond via email.  
>
>
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ /\
>"EVERYBODY IS A BOOK OF BLOOD.                mweil@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> WHEREVER WE'RE OPENED; WE'RE RED."
>-clive barker
>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ /\/
>

HERE ARE SOME CHEATS...don't look if you don't want to know.


                      --- Arkanoid II : Revenge Of Doh ---               
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
On the hien, type 'DEBBIE-------------------------------- When you die,n
appears. Press  You will then  ---------------------------------- On the
titleER' for continuo------------------------------ Wl the title scren type
'MAGENTA' levels.
 
When hold down Caps L plays, type PETEJ  Now, when you press pen, and you
caneen without finishing  pink screen, ann now restart at

                 **********************************************
                 *         bfield!gkropf@tdksc.waterloo.on    *
                 *         Gary Kropf  C/O BakersField BBS    *
                 **********************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: **1960**  ---WANTED--- ASAP!!
From: dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:25:04 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

I am looking for a like-new condition Commodore 1960 monitor. If you
have such a critter, please e-mail me ASAP. Thanks!


-- 
DSeaman@Oread.cc.ukans.edu
Derek Seaman

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: cmp@engin.umich.edu (Chris Pirich)
Subject: Scala MM200
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 10:59:27 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

I have a brand new unopened Scala multimedia 200 package that I just
received with my A3000.  If anyone is interested in it, please e-mail
cmp@engin.umich.edu.

        Thanks,
                Chris Pirich

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: eachus@oddjob.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Hardware/Software
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:14:31 GMT


In article <42uoVB2w164w@cellar.org> swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur) writes:
   eachus@oddjob.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) writes:

   >>     We consider that on the low edge of acceptable.

   > You're kidding right?  "The low edge of acceptable???"

   Right!  We would like to have more computers in each classroom, and
outfit the "Learning Center" which is used for pull-out enrichment
programs with enough computers so that students don't have to share on
some projects.  The goal (for now) is one (useful) computer for each
10 students.

   What are you expecting school-kids to do excatly?  

    In later elementary grades, learn to type, etc.  In the lower
grades, even games are very useful for teaching the children the
fundamentals of interaction with computers, etc.  But computer usage
in writing programs has had a tremendous positive effect.  It lets
students put handwriting out of the way and produce the poem or story
that they saw in their minds without erasing their way through the
paper.


     
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					Robert I. Eachus

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From: edana@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: A2000/SCSI/3MB, Flicker Fixer
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:20:06 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

For Sale:

A2000
2 MB fast ram
1 MB chip
Fatter Agnus (1 MB)
Brand new commodore A2010 internal floppy drive (DF0:)
Hardframe 2000 SCSI disk controller
1.3 ROM
1.3.3 Amiga DOS
$625.

Microway Flicker Fixer
Works great!!
$145.

Please e-mail directly or call as our news feed is flakey.

Eric Dana
e-mail: edana@pearl.tutfs.edu
phone: H: 617-731-3608, W: 617-627-3004, x5139
From: kellyd@mastro.UUCP (Kelly Donner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: AT BridgeBoard
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.974
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:29:48 EST
Organization: Excelsior! .972 Beta Site

For Sale:

An AT Bridgeboard with drive and software plus doxs:

Best offer takes it.... Buyer pays shipping....


Kelly-
313-326-7391
after 6pm or email me...


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From: jws7793@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: A2000 $395
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:22:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: ultb.1992Dec16.132251.3478
Reply-To: jws7793@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Amiga 2000
1.3 KS
1 meg am
1 disk drive
mous 
keyboard
$395 o.b.o.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: bartosz@stein.u.washington.edu (Bartosz Kijanka)
Subject: WANTED: ICD ADspeed
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:53:38 GMT

Replies to:
bartosz@u.washington.edu
From: tres@netcom.com (Gary Chow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: For Sale: Misc. items
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:18:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


                           FOR SALE
 
STEREO EQUIPMENT:
 
       KENWOOD 125 WATT AMP WITH 7 BAND EQ.
       KENWOOD 20 WATT SURROUND SOUND PROCESSOR
       KENWOOD DIGITAL TUNER
       30 WATT SATALITE SPEAKERS WITH 50 WATT SUBWOOFER
 
       ALL FOR $500 or best offer.
 
LASER DISC PLAYER:
 
       RCA HOME THEATER LASER DISC PLAYER + 10 LASER DISCS
       LASER DISCS INCLUDED ARE:
                 1) DIE HARD
                 2) THE ABYSS
                 3) LAWNMOWER MAN
                 4) PINK FLOYD-LIVE IN CONCERT
                 5) STAR TREK 2-WRATH OF KHAN
                 6) TERMINATOR 2
                 7) RETURN OF THE JEDI
                 8) ALIENS
                 9) DEAD AGAIN
                10) BATMAN 2-BATMAN RETURNS
 
       ALL FOR $500 or best offer.
 
COMPUTER:
 
       286-16MHZ WITH 1 MEG OF RAM.
       1.2/1.44 DISK DRIVES
       HERCULES MONITOR AND CARD
       2400 BAUD MODEM
       VIDEO SEVEN VEGA-VGA CARD
       IDE HARD DRIVE CONTROLER - NO HARD DRIVE
       101 KEYBOARD
 
       ALL FOR $500 or best offer.
 
 
This post is for a friend, but send all offers to me.
tres@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,ont.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,tor.forsale
From: mietek@elegant.com (Mietek Peczko)
Subject: Amiga500 3Mb/105Mb for sale
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:23:46 GMT
Distribution: ont
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc.


 I am posting this for a friend, he does not have net access. 
If interested, please call (416)-271-3630 after 4 pm. and ask for Rafal.

   Amiga 500 system for sale
  ============================

 1 Mb of CHIP RAM
 2 Mb of FAST RAM (expandable to 8 Mb)
 Trumpcard500 - 105 Mb Quantum hard drive (6 months old, still under warranty)
 2400 Supra external modem
 Commodore 1084 RGB/Composite monitor
 Workbench 2.04 (1.3 available if needed)
 FAT Agnus installed
 manuals, cables, joystick etc.
   
 The system's in perfect, working condition.
 
 The price: $1100 (Canadian dollars).   
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: markm@zerbin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Mark Montminy)
Subject: Amiga 2000HD $650 
Reply-To: markm@zerbin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Mark Montminy)
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:45:59 GMT


The subject says it, I'm looking to sell my spare 2000, $650.

	Rev 6.? motherboard
	2.04 in rom, 2.0 installed on the HD, complete with disks/manuals
	A2052 2 meg ram card
	A2091 SCSI controller with 2 megs installed
	1 meg Agnus
	Sony 40Meg HD
	Keyboard and mouse
	Supra 2400ZI internal 2400 modem

If interested, please email me at markm@zerbin.dev.cdx.mot.com or call
voice, 9-4 617-821-7187 (leave message) other, 401-751-3625
Please don't followup here, I don't have enough time to wade through the
messages looking for replies. (I get my news at work)


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"But officer, I was only trying to gain enough speed so I could coast
to the nearest gas station."
From: tww2568@sigma.tamu.edu (WEEKS, THOMAS WILLIAM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: WANTED!: GVPPC286!!!!!!
Date: 12 Dec 1992 01:28 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sigma.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

If anyone has, FOR SALE, a GVP PC286 Emulator for sale or are concidering
it..   Gimme holler... I'm in the market..

tww1568@tamuvenus.tamu.edu

my name's Thomas Weeks

TIA!


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Subject: ...
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:43:19 GMT

Could the person named Dave Wikard (sp?) please mail me with your address please? I
was trading you Lattice C for some mem... my mailbox got over my limit and was deleted
by the system admin before I could pull the address :(

tnx!



Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: stevend@cae.wisc.edu (Steven Dye)
Subject: Deluxe Paint IV
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:57:38 CST

Do you have a copy of Deluxe Paint IV that you would like to sell?
Please reply to stevend@cae.wisc.edu or call (708) 879-8639.
Thanks.

	Steve
From: pianoman@misseye.uucp (Alan D. Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: A1000 & Peripherals FOR SALE!
Date: 9 Dec 92 22:58:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Not an Organization


My local dealer is willing to trade me a 14.4K Zoom modem for some
of my (unused) Amiga equipment, but doesn't want to give me much for
the following, so I thought I'd try the net.

Amiga 1000 computer, with 512K RAM. NO EHB chip! Of course it comes
with keyboard and 1 internal 880K floppy as if you didn't know that.
The mouse has a sticky button.....you have to sometimes click a few
times to select something, but otherwise, computer is in very good
condition.
Have original boxes, manuals, and V1.1, V1.2 and V1.3 of the OS.
All for only .........................................$125.00


MicroBotics Starboard II RAM expander, with 2 megs installed. 
Installs on the side of the A1000, as has a PASS-THRU! Comes with
test disk, and sheet of instructions, information. I think I have
the original box too.
All for only .........................................$150.00


Supra 4X4 SCSI host/controller, with 20 meg SupraDrive. Has built-in
clock/calendar. Not blazing fast, but sure useful for those without
a hard disk. Comes with V1.09f software (there's a later version
available which I never got).
Have manuals, and original box.
All for only .........................................$175.00


That's it. No monitor included with above, as my dealer will take
it, and I don't want to ship it (too heavy).
I will sell everything above for $400.00. I will take other offers
for the above, but forget the "$50.00 for the RAM and you pay the
shipping" offers, because I won't take them.
Payment by certified check, money order, or COD. Shipping by
U.S.Postal Service, as I work there, and it would be a hassle to
use anyone else.
I'd like to get this stuff SOLD, so contact me via EMAIL if you're
interested.
Thanks for reading this.









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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: **wanted** 2.5" IDE HD >80MB 
From: dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:16:28 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

I am looking for a >80MB 2.5" IDE drive. If you have one for sale,
please let me know ASAP. Thanks!


-- 
DSeaman@Oread.cc.ukans.edu
Derek Seaman
From: dlb@dayvd.dayton.saic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Amiga 2000/loaded For Sale
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:52:47 EST
Organization: Science Applications Intl Corp - Dayton, OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: dayvd.dayton.saic.com


Well, heres a deal.......

For Sale....

	Amiga 2000
	2091 Disk Controler with 2 Mbytes RAM
	2 MByte Memory card
	XT PC Bridge Card
	52 MBytes SEGATE SCSI Harddrive
	5 1/4 Floopy drive
	3 1/2 Floppy drive
	Mouse, Keyboard, Manuals, etc...

	Drive Loaded with PAGESTREAM 2.2, HOTLINKS, PAGELINER, 
	                  Word Perfect, X-CAD Drafting Program,
				   etc, etc.....

	SYSTEM HAS BEEN USED FOR SOME GAME PLAY, BUT MOSTLY HEAVY "REAL" WORK
	AT HOME. SYSTEM IS IN EXECELLENT CONDITION AND HAVE HAD 0 PROBLEMS
	WITH IT. SYSTEM IS 3-3.5 YEARS OLD.	

	Asking $850  dollars  (OBE)  , US CURRENCY.  You Pay shipping if outside
     of the Dayton, Ohio area.

	

Send replies to:

	Internet  DLB@DAYVD.DAYTON.SAIC.COM

LATTER DAYS... DLB

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: mih8447@usl.edu (Hebert Marc I)
Subject: Trade: PC Keyboard for an a 2000 Keyboard
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:20:42 GMT

I am looking to trade my pc keyboard for an Amiga 2000 keyboard (in good 
condition).

On my pc keyboard:

OmniKey Plus from Northgate Computer
107 Keys
Function keys in two vertical columns to the left of the alphabetic block.
Similar to the OmniKey Ultra line, which was rated the best buy in keyboards
for 1992 in the latest Computer Shopper. 
About two years old, in perfect condition.

I'm looking to make an even swap for an Amiga 2000 keyboard in good shape.

Let me know by EMail if you're interested.



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From: c1a192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Oliver Erik Seiler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: Vector or GVP '030
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:52:11 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gambier.rick.cs.ubc.ca
Keywords: WANTED Accelerator GVP Vector


Hi! I would like to know if anyone is selling (or wishes to sell) one of the
following:

 - GVP '030 Combo Card (Accelerator, SCSI, Memory)
 - IVS Vector (Accelerator, SCSI-2, Memory)

(NOTE: I've seen the GVP '030 40Mhz w/40Mhz '882, 4MB RAM in AmigaWorld for
$999 American, so I'm basing what I will pay on that...)

Anyone selling one of these?


-Oliver
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From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Re: WANTED: Hardware/Software
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:33:14 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

eachus@oddjob.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) writes:

> 
>      Let the roof leak and buy the computers.  Otherwise close the
> school. (Yes donations can help, and I would seriously work on your
> company and others locally to make donations.  (MITRE donates hundreds
> of computers and other equipment to local schools...)  But in today's
> world an elementary school without a well organized and run computer
> program is just pretending to be a school.
> 
>      Take my son's elementary school as an example.  Each teacher has
> a Macintosh SE in his or her classroom.  There are also Apple II's
> mostly in the lower grades.  The principal, vice-principal and two
> secretaries have Mac's also.  The computer teacher (yes, full time)
> has a room with 24 DEC computers (from MITRE), as well as a Mac and an
> IBM/PC.  Future plans include replacing the DECstations with Macs and
> putting in an Appletalk network with a star controller.
> 
>     We consider that on the low edge of acceptable.
> 
> --
> 
> 					Robert I. Eachus
> 
> with Standard_Disclaimer;
> use  Standard_Disclaimer;
> function Message (Text: in Clever_Ideas) return Better_Ideas is...

You're kidding right?  "The low edge of acceptable???"  What are you
expecting school-kids to do excatly?  

Especially Elementary-School Kids.  Not like they're gonna need huge amounts
of computing power.  

(Well, I mean, besides be totally evangelized into MacLand [only 1/2 joking
:) ])

It's NOT the machines; its the teacher.

I heard lots of whining by teachers on NPR's "Talk of the Nation"... "Oh,
our computers aren't as -nice- as thier's..."

If student's imaginations are fired, they'll be writing machine code on
those IIe's... and while they may be re-inventing the wheel, they'll be
learning.  And that's what's important... not having a big network so they
can send Microsoft Word Mail messages to each other...


	-steve


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