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From: Grover.Partee@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Grover Partee)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Biological Transmutions
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 15:23:05 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

JC>From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
JC>Date: 27 Sep 92 19:49:39 GMT
JC>Organization: SCRI, Florida State University
JC>Message-ID: <10915@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>
JC>Newsgroups: k12.ed.science

>Crosspost from AQUIFER, the Pollution and grondwater recharge
>discussion list (AQUIFER%IBACSATA.BITNET@vm.cnuce.cnr.it) with
>neither comment nor significant alteration.

JC>Aquifer?

JC>Amazing how this thing gets around.  It was also posted to
JC>sci.physics.fusion where the factual flaws in the claims
JC>were pointed out.

Jim -
I knew there were some problems with this thing (hence the "no
comment" posting) but I wasn't clear on what they were.  Thanks for
the enlightenment.  I have posted your response back to AQUIFER.


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From: Roger.Buck@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Roger Buck)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Holograms
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 12:18:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

# PC>Good luck with you fact finding, anyway.  Are you going to "plug into" the
# PC>Astronomy course?
##[PM=>PC]

Any information on a time line for accessing this Paul?

Roger.

##MMR 2.41#.  !link PM  9-24-92 16:00 



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From: JIM.DIXON@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (JIM DIXON)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Westbank
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 08:37:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

Jim Dixon is responding to Ed Kwasniewski's bytes to James Aitchison
about Westbank
 EK> On 09-26-92 JIM DIXON wrote to JAMES AITCHISON... 
 
 JD>  Jim Dixon is responding to James Aitchison's bytes to Jim Dixon 
 JD> about Westbank 
 JD> equipment etc. Then they can, if calling locally, use the Call Back 
 JD> Verifyer. The system will lead them thru that and voila!, they are 
 JD> verified 

 EK> Sorry to butt in here, but I do not use a Call Back verifier.  I
 EK> verify  all callers manually ... most people will be upgraded to normal
 EK> access  levels within 24-48 hours.  Too many problems with CBV's! 

Sorry bout that Ed, James. It's been so long since I had to apply (only did
it once) that I thought it was your [Ed] board that used CBVs. Even
without it [CBVs] James, it's menus etc are easy to follow and K-12 is
there.

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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: G'day
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 20:09:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

Roger Buck wrote to Laura Finco:
RB>Museum etc). I will let Peter speak for himself (and The Australian
RB>Museum of course<G>) and restict myself to giving a bit of information
What he means is that he knows he's got Buckley's chance of getting me
to belt up.  Translations of this mesasage will be supplied upon request
for those with the misfortune not to comprehend Strine.  Sorry, have to
go and stone a few crows.
Hooroo
peter
              This here is the wattle, the symbol of our land




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From: Grover.Partee@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Grover Partee)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Sphere Of Flying
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:33:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

JA>...  Do these type of
JA>conversation usually go from bad to worse ....
Yes.  And in K12_LANG_A, they go from bad to verse!

JA>Chow for now ....
Little early for chow.  How about a donut?


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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Tires
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 20:47:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

Monday September 21 1992 00:43, James Aitchison wrote to Tom Turner:

 JA> I wonder if there is someway the tires could be mechanically
broken into  JA> small pieces and then somehow used in road
resurfacing.  Just something I  JA> thought about as the friction
from the road on my tires was slowly wearing  JA> them away.

James-

Years ago I did a feasibility study for a junk yard on how to
dispose of all of their old tires. Once of the biggest problems lies
in the mechanics of pulverizing them into small pieces. The
equipment is quite expensive and will work fine with the older nylon
thread tires but the minute you throw one of the steel belted tires
into the "hogger" it can jam or destroy the knives.

A pound of tire rubber has slightly more btu's than a poind of coal.
However, the pollutants in burning it are such that only very large
installations can cost-effectively "scrub" the resulting smoke
adequately.

I also vaguely remember that mixing pelletized rubber with asphault
to make roads with did not work out all that well because the rubber
does not bond well enough. Also, when the raod gets wet, the rubber
tends to get abit slippery which presents a safety problem.

My study concluded that the best way to get rid of the old tire was
to ship them back to the main Goodyear Tire plant in Ohio where they
could be recycled into new tires. I seem to remember that about 20%
of the rubber in new tires came from old ones.

Keep in mind that I did this study about 20 years ago. The rubber
recycling technologies may have change dramatically since then....

hope this helps

=jack=



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From: Grover.Partee@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Grover Partee)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Ozone Hole
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 15:12:05 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

From: NASA Daily News for 09/30/92

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Goddard Space Flight Center scientists report that preliminary results
from the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer aboard the Nimbus-7 weather
satellite show this year's Antarctic ozone hole is the largest yet
recorded.  The area covered by the depleted ozone layer is more than
8.9 million square miles (2.3 trillion hectares), about 15 percent
larger than the depleted area observed last year.

Most of the scientific community believes that chlorine from man-made
chlorofluorocarbon compounds is the primary cause for ozone hole
formation.  This year's hole also may have been affected by the
continued presence of sulfuric acid droplets in the upper atmosphere
created by the eruption of the Mount Pinatubo volcano 15 months ago.
Goddard scientists also noted that middle stratospheric temperatures
have been colder than normal this year which would contribute
indirectly to larger ozone losses.  The Nimbus-7 instrument is
complemented by another NASA ozone spectrometer launched aboard the
Russian Meteor-3 weather satellite last year.



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From: ghartman@cvgs.schools.virginia.edu (Greg Hartman)
Subject: SPACE EXPERIMENT
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Lynchburg)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 12:41:44 GMT

Hi!  I was wondering if anyone out there remembers a experiment
done on a space shuttle a couple of years ago. They took a
glass jar half full of water into space in order to see
if water has a stronger attraction itself or glass. I remember
seeing them do it, but don't remember the results. If you
remember, please inform me.

Thanks!
From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: MARS
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 23:20:14 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi KAYE.....

26 Sep 92, KAYE MUSHALIK writes to All:


 KM> Hi again James,
 KM>         I was able to access NASA's SpaceLink today. The direct phone
 KM> number is 205-895-0028. If you want to download using XModem or YModem
 KM> protocals, you need to use the direct line. If you haven't accessed
 KM> SpaceLink yet, I would suggest a couple of areas to explore first: From:
 KM> NASA SpaceLink Main Menu Go to:  #2-NASA Educational Programs Go to:
 KM> #6-Space-Related Educational Programs on Cable Channel "Nickleodeon"

 KM>         Go to:  #17-MARS Observer Information

I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to help me out.  Also, I don't think we have access in Canada to that particular cable network.  Any ideas where I can get more info on how to access the same programs.  One more thing, could you add Aitchison to your message somewhere.  It would sure help my searches.

Thanks a million.

Does the Nasa Space LInk have any VGA or SVGA graphics files of Mars or its moons?

Chow for now ....

James.....


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From: David.Lilienthal@f40.n772.z3.fidonet.org (David Lilienthal)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Frogs
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 21:53:50 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/40 - NZMC Gate 1, Auckland

> My name is Melanie Adams and I am in Grade 5 at Glendal Primary School in
> Glen Waverley,Melbourne,Victoria,Australia.Recently at my Science Club at
> school there was a topic about Frogs and a man who knows alot about frogs
> came and did a talk.
> 
> I would like to here from anybody who knows anything about frogs.
> 
> Bye for now
> 
> Melanie.
 
A frog, is an amphibian of the order Anura, superorder Salientia, usually characterized by absence of tail in the adult, smooth skin, external eardrums situated behind the eyes, long hind-legs, and, in most species, partly or completely webbed feet.

:-)... hope this was partly helpful (though proabably not)... I like frogs.. :-)......cya later!




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From: JIM.DIXON@f240.n353.z1.fidonet.org (JIM DIXON)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Tires
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 08:59:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:353/240 - The Polish Connecti, Westbank BC

Jim Dixon is responding to Tom Turner's bytes to Jim Dixon
about Tires

 TT> thanks very much for the information. I will follow your suggestions
 TT> up. Your not the Jim Dixon from W.F.E. are you? 

No, just one of my clones :-)    What's a W.F.E.?  I use to survive in
Calgary and if mem serves me right, you and I chatted before, over a year
ago?

... DWNWTHVWLSNDSPCS...Jm
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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Moderators Wanted
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 04:27:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR

 > JCyou as the "Senior" moderator. You can appoint and
 > JCcoordinate your
 > JCown assistants at your descretion. My role will be to help

 > JCSound good???

I'm on.  Sounds fine to me.

Lowell 

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From: James.Bannan@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (James Bannan)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Global Environmental Watch
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 21:35:14 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

Hello to one and to all,
     I am trying to interest ordinary folk arounf the world into an informal environmental watch in their own backyards.  The deal, we keep a diary of what we observe either in our backyard, our streets or local park, the payoff-we share in the amazing changes in our world at the same time in different places around the world.  The things to look at are plants, the weather generally, what the little bugs and insects are doing and the birds and animals in general.  It should be heaps of fun and involve peop






le in looking at environemtal conditions in a more local sense.  We often involve ourselves in global issues, but this is intended more for localised interest for a global audience.  At the moment we are into spring heading towards our summer.  In the northern hemisphere they are heading into there winter.  It would be interesting to compare to differences and maybe some similarities between different hemispheres and latitudes.  It doesnt require any expertise..I should know because I really know alot abou






t absolutely nothing.  Just type in what you see out your window and we all will share in it.
Hope to hear from you all soon.
Cheers Jimbo Down Under
ps Diaries can be entered to ALL under Global Environmental Watch
pps  Dont be shy now.  And it is really easy.
Cheers
       Jimbo Down Under Melbourne Australia


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From: neta@iat.holonet.net (Gregory Giagnocavo)
Subject: NASA's SpaceLink
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 08:30:12 GMT

Earlier questioin on connecting to NASA Spacelink-->>
NASA Spacelink, connect by Internet to  spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov, or, to
xsl.msfc.nasa.gov, or to 128.158.13.250
By Modem, the # is +(205) 895-0028  8N1
Lots of great info, be sure to spend some time going thru all the menu
choices to get the full feel of the depth of info
Here's a blurb 8-)
Brought to you by NetPower:The Educator's Resource Guide to Online
Computer Networks,400pges, $32.50, inc. free diskettes of additional material 
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From: Roger.Buck@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Roger Buck)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Making H2 For Vehicles
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 12:15:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

G'day Grover,

# AN>    I've heard about a new car that can run off of Hydrogen....
# AN>....  While I'm asking, what
# AN>would be the easiest way to store it?
#
# And Roger Buck commented:
# RB>I think the biggest problem with Hydrogen has always been one of safety
##[GP=>AN]

#   Certainly, we can run vehicles on hydrogen.  There are vehicles on
# the road here right now that run on either propane or natural gas. The
# latter are often in daily use as maintenance vehicles by the gas
# companies (who else!)  I've seen several pizza delivery trucks that
# use propane for both propulsion and for keeping the pizza hot.  Except
##[GP=>AN]

Thank you for the excellent reply to the above thread!

Roger.

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From: Grover.Partee@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Grover Partee)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Biological Transmutions
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 16:11:07 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

Crosspost from AQUIFER, the Pollution and grondwater recharge
discussion list (AQUIFER%IBACSATA.BITNET@vm.cnuce.cnr.it) with neither
comment nor significant alteration.

                    BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS

        A very simple experiment can demonstrate (PROVE) the FACT of
"BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS" (reactions like Mg + O --> Ca, Si + C -->
Ca, K + H --> Ca, N2 --> CO, etc.), as described in the BOOK
"Biological Transmutations" by Louis Kervran, [1972 Edition is BEST.],
and in Chapter 17 of the book "THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS" [see
Footnote] by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird, 1973:

   (1) Obtain a good sample of plant seeds, all of the same kind.
   [Some kinds might work better that others.]

   (2) Divide the sample into two groups of equal weight and number.

   (3) Sprout one group in distilled water on filter paper for three
   or four weeks.

   (4) Separately incinerate both groups.

   (5) Weigh the residue from each group.  [The residue of the
   sprouted group will usually weigh at least SEVERAL PERCENT MORE
   than the other group.]

   (6) Analyze quantitatively the residue of each group for mineral
   content.  [Some of the mineral atoms of the sprouted group have
   been TRANSMUTED into heavier mineral elements by FUSING with atoms
   of oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, etc.]


BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS occur ROUTINELY, even in our own bodies.

Ingesting a source of organic silicon (silicon with carbon, such as
"horsetail" extract, or radishes) can SPEED HEALING OF BROKEN BONES
via the reaction Si + C --> Ca, (much faster than by merely ingesting
the calcium directly).

Some MINERAL DEPOSITS in the ground are formed by micro-organisms
FUSING together atoms of silicon, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen,
etc..

The two reactions Si + C <--> Ca, by micro-organisms, cause "STONE
SICKNESS" in statues, building bricks, etc..

The reaction N2 --> CO, catalysed by very hot iron, creates a
CARBON-MONOXIDE POISON HAZARD for welder operators and people near
woodstoves (even properly sealed ones).

Some bacteria can even NEUTRALIZE RADIOACTIVITY!

ALL OF THESE THINGS AND MORE HAPPEN, IN SPITE OF the currently
accepted "laws" of physics.


Footnote: Chapters 19 and 20 are about "RADIONICS".
           ENTIRE BOOK is FASCINATING!


UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT
Information is ENCOURAGED.


                          Robert E. McElwaine
                          B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC



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From: mtalaive@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Dr. Manorama Talaiver)
Subject: Teacher vacancy-Earth & Space science
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 15:09:30 GMT


TEACHER - EARTH & SPACE SCIENCE

MATHEMATICS & SCIENCE CENTER


Reports to:		Program Specialist - Weekday Programs

Responsibilities:	Teach assigned classes, workshops, or
courses and develop lessons employing a variety of
instructional techniques and media consistent with the
standards of the Mathematics & Science Center to meet the needs
and capabilities of individuals,	student groups, and
teachers.  Maintain and provide instructional leadership in
earth and space science to the Center and for students,
teachers, and the general public in the consortium.  Provide
leadership with the Signet Challenger Center.  Comply with and
enforce rules and regulations of the Mathematics and Science
Center and take all necessary and reasonable precautions to
protect students, equipment, materials, and facilities.  Assist
in other duties as may be assigned and needed to expedite
programs of the Center.

Qualifications:		Undergraduate or graduate degrees in
the sciences with coursework in earth science.  Master's or
doctoral degree preferred.  Successful classroom teaching
experience in earth and other sciences at the secondary level
required.  Knowledge and experience with computers as tools in
the classroom required.  Effective communication and public
relations skills and the ability to work effectively with
diverse age and ability groups.  Experience in curriculum
development and inservice education desirable.

Employment:		Ten month position.  Teachers' salary
scale -
$26,703-					$45,388,
depending upon experience and education.  All other fringe
benefits afforded personnel of the Richmond 	Public Schools.

Position Available:	January, 1993.

Application:		Submit a letter of interest, current
resume and application with three professional references to
Ms. Jean Fountain, Coordinator, Department of Human Resources,
Richmond Public Schools, 301 North Ninth Street, no later than
the close of business on Friday, October 30, 1992.		
CLOSE  DATE: FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30, 199


If you have more questions, please call manorama talaiver at
804-343-6525
Mathematics & Science Center is owned and operated by the six
public school divisions in the Greater Richmond area.  The
Center celebrates its 25 anniversary xt week.
Open House:  October 17 (10a.m. till 4. p.m.)
manorama talaiver

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From: Roger.Buck@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Roger Buck)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: G'day
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 11:48:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

G'day Laura,
            appologies for the slight delay in reponse to your enquiry:
# I am curious about the program you work with in Australia. I have been doing
# research (population studies) in the Queensland Rainforest near Lake Eacham
# and in Chillagoe.  I lived in Kuranda for a bit and am now home sick for what
# I consider God's country.  I have been back in the USA for two months and am
# teaching at a middle school in California. I am always curious about what
# others do with technology and science.  I have seen your name and Peter's on
# this system and hopeto make contact.
##[LF=>RB]

Well, it sounds like you are involved in some interesting and exotic
stuff!

Peter and I have come to know each other through having similar areas
of interest and working in different ways but with similar aims over
the years (Dept of School Education, Powerouse Museum, Australian
Museum etc). I will let Peter speak for himself (and The Australian
Museum of course<G>) and restict myself to giving a bit of information
about things I am currently involved with.

I am science director for the Studio of Arts And Sciences, based in
Sydney.

Our mission is to integrate the "art of science" and the "science of
art" in all areas of public education.

Currently my major project involves the creation of a new education
resource that integrates electronic BBS sytems with broader
educational goals and other "hands-on" educational resources.

My main area of educational interest lies in "motivation for
education"  -  my aim is to motivate people to find out about things,
and then leave all the hard work to the educators! <G>

The BBS stuff is targetted mainly at primary and secondary schools (
kidergarten to 16 and 17 year olds), and this is why we participate
in the K12Net.

If you have any specific enquiries or areas of interest, please ask
away and I'd be happy to help if poss.

Am sorry that you had to return to USA - I can understand the trauma
that you would have experienced after having to leave Oz!
Look forward to hearing more from you and your students in future...

see ya later mate...
Roger.




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