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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Bench Depth
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:03:39 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <Bttv2o.Gyn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>	You're right here about one game -- but it is over an entire season
>	that is the most important.  If your starters are worn out from
>	so many minutes at the end of the season -- what good is it going
>	to do U in the tournament?  If 10 or 11 good players can run down
>	and wear out 5 to 6 great players, it may be effective. 

My point is that depth is an overrated factor, especially with a team that is
versatile.  As long as you have two or three warm bodies who can give a few
minutes each game, to rest the starters, you can win.  The Georgia Tech theory.
Add to this some creampuff games and some blowouts at home, and this rests
the starters too.  

>	It always seemed to me that playing time was usually pretty good
>	for the bench on most of those Duke teams.  Except for fairly 
>	recently, it always occured to me that Coach K used his bench
>	quite often. 

Well, Barry Jacobs ran a comparison and found that Duke used its bench only
slightly more than Georgia Tech in recent years.  Many bench players will
see time, but it's often only for spot duty.

 Anyways, looking at the player U listed that came
>	on later in their careers to play considerable roles -- King,
>	Strickland, Lang, and Davis -- 3 of those guys (King, Strickland,
>	Lang) were big-time high school all-americans.  They played
>	bit roles early on only because of the experience ahead of them.
>	But when they had to play -- they made it count.

Hmmm, good point.  Duke does like to take players who are willing to not play
immediately, and who will practice hard and play good defense.

>	Someone like Marty Clark I don't see happening
>	too much...

Clark was a big time high-schooler also.  I believe he was Mr. Basketball in
both Colorado (his junior year) and Illinois (his senior year).  The only
thing stopping him is his defense.  He is an excellent shooter, possibly the
best on the team.  Decent rebounder, too.  With Laettner and Davis gone,
there will be auditions for more three point shooting, and he may come on yet.

Robert Clough, DUMC (though certainly not speaking for them)
	"I'm all sixes and sevens and nines."--M.Jagger
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From: kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Cream-puffiness
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:59:53 GMT

In article <19405@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:

>Of late, I think Ohio State takes top honors in the Big-10 for
>creampuff schedule (although you have to give honorary mention to IU
>for their longstanding tradition of their Classics [sic]).

No, give the honorary award to the Iowa Hawkeyes, if nothing else, for
their amazing scheduling feat a few years ago.  As you might recall,
the only non-conference game they played on an opponent's home court was
in the hostile realm of Des Moines (ie, at Drake).

Or did they also venture to Ames that year?

Until recently, their footballers had it down to a science too.
==Ken
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Mizzou and ND Schedules?
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:41:23 GMT

I just started reading this group, so if these schedules have already
been posted, well, I'm asking for them again.

If anybody could post schedules for the upcoming season for either
Notre Dame or Missouri or both, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-Mike Noonan
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From: sally@nevada.edu (SALLY PHARES)
Subject: UNLV Basketball Schedule
Originator: sally@helios.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:37:24 GMT

I talked to Coach Rollie last week--says he got 3 good recruits for
this year--didn't say who and gave me the Rebels' schedule:

Nov. 20		Russian National Team		Exhibition
Nov. 27		Marathon Oil			Exhibition
Dec. 5		at Loyola Marymount
Dec. 12		at San Diego State
Dec. 19		UC Irvine
Dec. 26		Marquette			On ESPN
Dec. 30		Hofstra University
Jan. 2		Cal State Fullerton
Jan. 7		at Long Beach State
Jan. 11		Missouri			On ESPN
Jan. 14		Univ. of Pacific	
Jan. 16		San Jose State
Jan. 19		Texas A & M
Jan. 23		Georgetown			On CBS
Jan. 28		at UNR
Jan. 30		at Utah State
Feb. 4		at Univ. of Pacific
Feb. 6		UC Santa Barbara
Feb. 8		Long Beach State		ESPN
Feb. 11		at San Jose State
Feb. 14		Louisville			ABC
Feb. 20		New Mexico State
Feb. 22		at UC Santa Barbara		ESPN
Feb. 25		UNR
Feb. 27		Utah State
Mar. 1		at New Mexico State		ESPN
Mar. 4		at UC Irvine
Mar. 6		at Cal State Fullerton
Mar. 11-14 	Big West Tournament

...as of now we will be able to participate in post season play.

sally@nevada.edu
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From: randyc@tvnews.tv.tek.com (Randall Cornwell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: which award is college basketball's Heisman Trophy?
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:15:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix TV Measurement Systems, Beaverton, OR

>My mistake. It should read:
 ^^^^^^^^^^
>
>         AP      UPI     USBWA     NABC    Wooden   Naismith    TSN 
>81     Sampson  Sampson  Sampson  Ainge     Ainge    Sampson    Aguirre
>82     Sampson  Sampson  Sampson  Sampson  Sampson   Sampson    Sampson
>83     Sampson  Sampson  Sampson  Sampson  Sampson   Sampson    Jordan
>84     Jordan   Jordan   Jordan   Jordan   Jordan    Jordan     Jordan
>
>-- 
>                                          Edward Lor
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^
Did Hell just freeze over???  :-)
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From: kelley@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Sean Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Want : KU Jayhawks Schedule!
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:13:21 GMT
Reply-To: kelley@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com
Organization: Lockheed-Sanders - Avionics Division


	Could someone post KU's schedule?


					Thanks

							Sean
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From: jdm42241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doug Mraz )
Subject: DePaul loses Nathan to grades
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:22:03 GMT
Keywords: fail

I was wathcing WGN News last night when they announced that DePaul
point guard Howard Nathan, 5'11" sophomore from Peoria Manual, has been
given the boot from school due to poor grades. The move was expected, they
said. He had been going to summer school. Head Coach Joey Meyer said that
now the players will realize that grades are to be taken seriously. It 
seems likely that Nathan will enroll at a junior college.
  I'm not a DePaul fan, but I'm wondering who will be their point guard
  now. Brandon Cole? I really don't know their other guards. I think
  Tom Kleinschmidt is better suited at small forward. Any ideas?

-- 
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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Kuppenheimer Classics
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:39:13 GMT

In article <67284@hydra.gatech.EDU>, jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
|> For everybody's information:
|> 
|> This year's Kuppenheimer (the first to be held in the Georgia
|> Dome) will feature Georgia Tech against Louisville, and Georgia
|> against UCLA.
|> 
|> The 1993 matchup was just announced last week - Georgia Tech will
|> face Kentucky (in a rematch of last year's event), and Georgia will
|> face Kansas.  Looks like some pretty good games upcoming...
|> 

Quick question for the good Dr. :)   When did the Kuppenheimer Classic
cease to be a 4 team mini-tournament and become just two games?  Back when it
was the "Cotton State <whatever>", I thought it was a tournament.  Did it
become a "classic" when the name/sponsor changed?

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu
"In the worst case scenario, investigators would find a direct link to
 financing Iraqi military expenditures." - George Bush, February 13, 1990,
 in a memo to his secretary of Agriculture
From: db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Bench Depth
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:44:37 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

(Jazzy J ) writes:

>	-- Duke doesn't seem to have all that much depth coming into this
>	season.  Sure, 3 starters return (G.Hill, T.Hill, and Hurley) --
>	and a whole host of reserves, but most of the bench players are 
>	going to have to make big steps forwards this season to make any
>	impact (freshmen included).

Yeah, but...Those aformentioned three starters plus a whole host
of reserves were good enough to overwhelm the Big10's best at
the Final Four last season. The two seniors of last year's team
had very little impact on the FF. Brian Davis went down early
in the Indiana game and C. Laettner was horrible, especially
against Michigan. 
I wouldn't go as far as saying that we won't miss those two
but this team has plenty of talent left.

dov

-- 
An adult child of normal parents
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Shaq's impact
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:59:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Btyn7D.8I9
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes:
>A lot of talk lately about Shaq's contract and his impact on the
>pro game. Here's a thought: As far as I go back in memory I cannot
>think of a single player on that hype level that has NEVER helped
>his team past the NCAA second round. LSU never strung two 
>tournament victories in a row  during Shaq's days at LSU.
>A few names come to mind when you talk hyped up college
>players: Kareem, Walton, Ewing, Akeem, Sampson, Robinson...With the
>exception of Robinson, all these guys carried their teams to the Final
>Four.
>Even Robinson lead Navy to the round of eight as a virtual one
>man team. Shaq never even gotten close.

	Just because a player doesn't lead his team too far in the NCAAS
	really means nothing.  The NCAA Tournament is such that on any
	given night, a team can beat another team.  In the NBA, there
	are 5,7 game series, which really determine a winner.  The NCAAs
	have fluke wins -- which could be based on bad officiating, freak
	shots, weird occurences -- much harder to do in the pro game because
	it would have to be over several games.

	But there have been many a player who have been hyped up, who
	never took their teams all that far.  In recent years, even POY
	candidates like Chris Jackson, Gary Payton, and Harold Miner
	never made it past the 2nd round.  That that doesn't make them
	bad pros by a longshot (although those 3 still have to prove
	themselves in the NBA).

	Still, U have to remember that in college, the Shaq was the 
	biggest fish in a big pond.  In the pros, he's going to have
	plenty of support -- in that he won't have to play the huge role
	he played at LSU.  Orlando features Scott Skiles, Nick Anderson,
	Dennis Scott, and Stanley Roberts -- a group that sure beats
	Justin Anderson, Maurice Williamson, and Geert Hammink.

	Jazzy J

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From: atchison@lagoon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Ohio State - Michigan B-Ball
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:18:42 GMT

In article <Cpj-dN_@engin.umich.edu> martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) writes:
>Starting five:
>Jalen Rose     6'7 guard		Pro whenever he wants
					^^^
>Jimmy King     6'6 guard		Has all the tools to go to the pros 
								       ^^^^
>Chris Webber   6'9 center		Pro whenever he wants
					^^^ (agreed, though)
>Juwawn Howard  6'9 forward		Will go pro...has pro size and
						^^^       ^^^
>Ray Jakcson    6'6 forward		Can go pro, but needs to develop
					       ^^^
>Eric Riley     7'0 back-up center
>		but because Chris Webber belongs in the pros. He has scouts
							^^^^
>		from the pros drooling over his size (not just height, he
			 ^^^^
>		has put on yet another 15 pounds to his thin build) He is
>		going pro, and he is the BACK-UP CENTER. Has a solid
		      ^^^
>		turn-around jumper from 12 and in....a move that will
>		keep him a pro. Since he is 7'0, and can rebound he will
			   ^^^
>		definately be a pro.... Single-handedly won the Oklahoma
				^^^

Wow! Is this guy Pro-Michigan or what?

Take 2 down-to-earth pills and call me in '94.

>			GO BLUE!!!!
>					Marty Pochmara
>					Michigan Student
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From: thmpsnmc@snoopy7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Cream-puffiness
Reply-To: thmpsnmc@snoopy7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:40:19 GMT

Over the years I have observed that some schedules are effected by teams cancelling agreements for portions
of an existing series .  Example this year both Depaul and Marquette pulled out of the games with Kansas.  
This left Kansas with two holes in their schedule that could not be filled by teams of equal caliber.  I believe
that both teams sited the increased difficulty of their schedules since joining in the MidWest league.  I
think they got tired of getting their butts kicked.  

As a school gets stronger it often loses commitments for games from teams that are not as strong an are
looking to develop a since of winning in their teams.  So please do not always blame the powerfull teams
for having weak schedules out of conference.

			Craig Thompson
From: rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Ohio State - Michigan B-Ball
Keywords: Big Ten Champs
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:19:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Aug27.220139.16640@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald D Rodabaugh) writes:
>In article <Rlj-gw#@engin.umich.edu> martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) w
>rites:
>>>Sounds like you'll have a new rag to wipe the snow off your car in frigid
>>>(both kinds of frigid) Ann Arbor come next march!
>>>
>>
>>Do I sense some sour grapes? Michigan will win another championship!!!
>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     Hey Bucko! The only _CHAMPIONSHIP_ banner from 1992 that will be hanging 
>in a Big Ten basketball arena will be in St. John Arena. (Remember the Big 
>Ten?)
>>                             Marty
>Go Reds! Go Buckeyes! Go Browns!
>David Rodabaugh                rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

Woof, woof, woof....

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Morte Livingston
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:29:21 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <9209041801.AA18617@walt.disney> chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
>
>Earlier this year, I told several people:
>
>   I don't know where he [Randy Livingston] is going to school, but I think 
>	he's too smart to go to LSU.
>
>I, sadly, was wrong.

There was something in the papers here the other day which mentioned 
that some analysts (I think Gibbons was among them, though I won't swear
to that) thought that LSU has a chance to win a national championship
with Livingston in the backcourt, teaming with highly regarded Ronnie
Henderson.

My attitude is that, if Brown couldn't win a NC with Shaquille, or
with his 1986 and 1981 personnel, then he will be unlikely to with
Livingston.

>Randy will be able to play as much as he wants and leave school early to
>go pro at LSU.  These were two of his goals.  His relatives will be able
>to see him live at home games.  That's nice.  However, by not picking a
>school with a coach that instills discipline, defensive skills, and ability
>to play effectively within a team system, Randy has severly reduced the
>level his game will be at when he turns pro.

It's interesting that "long ago", players (and high school students in
general) looked forward to going away to school, rather than staying
close to home.  It was viewed as part of a growing experience.  Now,
many people are staying as close to home as possible.  Of course
widespread TV makes it possible for you to see almost anyone almost
anywhere, but since that is true, why not play at a school which has a
chance to win it all and develop you to the fullest?  I guess young 
people today are just "different".

>I wish Randy the best of luck.  But, for his sake, I'd rather have seen him
>at Duke than LSU.  And, as most of you know, for me that's saying alot.

The statement above proves that the real Curtis Hill didn't write this
post.  Who are you really, and what have you done with Curtis, you
thief???!

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From: gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Purdue Basketball Schedule
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:44:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

Here it is (again).

Carl


Purdue Men's Basketball Schedule  (Tentative)

DATE        OPPONENT                     TV      TIME (EST)
----        --------                     --      ----

Nov. 16     LAFAYETTE HUSTLERS           None    8 PM
Nov. 22     RUSSIAN NATIONAL TEAM        None    2 PM
Nov. 27or28 TIP-OFF CLASSIC at Springfield, MASS
	    Connecticut			 ESPN	 TBA
Dec. 4-5    BOILERMAKER INVITATIONAL {Purdue, Weber St, E Tenn St, E Illinois}
  Dec.  4     WEBER STATE	         Raycom  7 PM
  Dec.  5     Consolation game           Raycom  7 PM
  Dec.  5     Championship game          Raycom  9:30 PM
Dec. 12     LOYOLA, ILL                  Raycom  4 PM
Dec. 19     INDIANA STATE                Raycom  8 PM
Dec. 22     at SW Missouri St.           Raycom  8 PM
Dec. 28-29  SUN CARNIVAL CLASSIC at El Paso, Texas
  Dec. 28     Florida			 Raycom  11 PM
  Dec. 29     UTEP or Austin Peay        Raycom  8:30 or 11 PM
Jan.  2     BUTLER		         Raycom  8 PM
Jan.  7     MICHIGAN                     Raycom  8 PM
Jan.  9     at Minnesota                 Raycom  8 PM
Jan. 13     WISCONSIN                    Raycom  8 PM
Jan. 16     at Penn State                Raycom  Noon
Jan. 19     INDIANA                      ESPN	 7:30 PM
Jan. 28     at Northwestern              Raycom  8 PM
Jan. 30     MICHIGAN ST.                 Raycom  5 PM
Feb.  3     at Ohio St.                  Raycom  8 PM
Feb.  7     at Michigan                  CBS	 12:45 PM
Feb. 10     MINNESOTA                    Raycom  8 PM
Feb. 13     at Wisconsin                 Raycom  8 PM
Feb. 21     at Indiana                   CBS	 12:30PM
Feb. 25     at Illinois                  ESPN    9:30 PM
Feb. 27     NORTHWESTERN                 Raycom  5 PM
Mar.  3     at Michigan St.              Raycom  8 PM
Mar.  6     IOWA                         Raycom  1 PM
Mar. 11     PENN STATE 			 Raycom  8 PM
Mar. 13/14  OHIO ST.                     Raycom/CBS Noon or 2:15 PM
From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Let's send Valvano a rsbc get well card
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:54:52 GMT
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu


Let's send Jimmy V a get well card compiled from everyones wishes. Email me
your thoughts and I'll compile and forward them. Valvano has cancer for those
who don't know. He reportedly receives great comfort from notes from friends
and supporters.

RC
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Shaq's impact
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:25:07 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <Bu2FyA.GGB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>Pardon me, but I could swear that Sampson never made it to a Final 4.  I
>seem to recall they made a big deal of it when UVA made it the year after
>he left.  Anybody else know?          

He didn't, they made it the year after he left with Othell Wilson and
Olden Polynice and some other guys. Without Ralph to rely on , they
played better as a team was the popular explanation..




Russ Smith
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From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: NCSU Feggins out
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:22:21 GMT


The news on Bryant Feggins is he most likely will miss the entire season. 
The minimum down down for him would be for him to play next semester. He is
not enrolled this semester and is making up the incompletes from Spring (For 
those who don't know Feggins was critically wounded last spring by a gunman).
I had heard that Feggins was working one on one with the strength coordinator
to rabilitate his shoulder. I thought this was a positive sign, but the nerves
have not completely repaired themselves.
RC
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cream-puffiness
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:30:43 GMT
	<17u8ssINNl4q@cs.utexas.edu> <1992Sep1.144329.14951@jade.tufts.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University


Of late, I think Ohio State takes top honors in the Big-10 for
creampuff schedule (although you have to give honorary mention to IU
for their longstanding tradition of their Classics [sic]).

Now it seems like everyone schedules a few patsies at the beginning of
the year to build up the record.  Keady learned his lesson the year he
had the #17 program in the country (Sagarin) miss the NCAA's because
they had a tough early schedule.  Now Purdue plays Stetson and Prairie
View A&M...

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
          Did you use yew boughs to make the bows to shoot the ewes?

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