HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Emily Dickenson)
Subject: Re: Election Day!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:20:26 GMT

Not necessarily.  You can still take refuge in sundry philosophies,religions,
substances of varying efficacy, and your navel.  Check out alt.slack; let
Bob show you the way! 
Failing that, consult your pineal gland.
 
euclid
--
Emily Dickenson, euclid@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (preferred)
standard disclaimers apply
The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a 
Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven --John Milton "Paradise Lost"
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 13 Nov 1992 00:11:22 CST
From: <U56503@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: life is death is life (a poem)
 <1992Nov12.224904.2278@gacvx2.gac.edu>

In article <1992Nov12.224904.2278@gacvx2.gac.edu>, emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric
Middlecamp) says:
>
>In article <1992Nov12.083029.12917@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>  writes:
>>life is death
>>a cold existence
>>slave to this world
>>surrounded by banality
>>smothered by the uncaring
>>the hopeless and frustrating
>>not sinful for suffering to end
>>all is forgiven in the eyes of god ==>> <point>
>>spreading wings to the infinite
>>the weight upon me is lifted
>>this mortal physical body
>>returning to the earth
>>the sky embraces my
>>unleashed spirit
>>death is life
>
>golly, where's the point?

I think it's right to the right of "god," but I don't know what the
point of that is for the ASHers anyway.  ;)))

Nice poem though.

Brady
=-=-=-=-Brady Woodward PhD=-=U56503@UICVM=-=u56503@uicvm.uic.edu=-=-=-=-=
  SATAN to NEW-COMER: The trouble with you Chicago people is that you
  think that you are the best people down here, whereas you are merely
  the most mumerous. --Mark Twain  (All other thoughts are mine alone.)
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From: EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Election Day!!!
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:42:55 GMT
Organization: C.C.S.O.

In article <1992Nov5.043642.21066@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
tjones@orville.psu.edu (Brain Drain) writes:
 
>not to be too overly cynical (imagine that here) but considering the choices
>we had, is suicide not the only logical alternative to the current state of
>affairs?
                Now that i've gotten out of a wave of flippancy, i can proffer
you a straight answer:  The only alternative?  Well, that depends on what you
value, and how creative you are.  Number of alternatives decreases the more
rigid a world you want.  Number increases the more creative you can be.
 
euclid
From: tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu (tom)
Subject: I'm not making this up...
Organization: The Lab Rats
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:57:09 GMT

from the Newark Post 11-6-92:

Suicide Attempt: A depressed
Newark man, 23, tried to kill him-
self Friday night, Oct. 30, by put-
ting bug spray in his mouth, ears
and eyes, poking a wire in his ear,
jumping in a neighbor's pool, and
looking for an underground wire to
electrocute himself, Newark police
said. He was taken to the Newark
Emergency Center and then on to
the Delaware State Hospital. His
condition is unknown.
-- 
tom@udel.edu                                        ...!{gateway}!udel!tom
tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu           UDel: School of Life and Health Sciences
Libertarian candidate for Delaware House of Representatives, 23rd District

"Themes were useless; Destiny was here, and the foot pedals were bleeding."
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Longing for the land of long grass...
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:23:29 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark


	This is rather silly... I'm working till the last minute to
write this stupid paper (and then study for an exam tomorrow) and what do
I do? Read ASH...  *ack*

	The REALLy stupid part of it is that I have a tremendous 
burden of guilt related to seperating from the person I'm living with.  I've
been trained from day one to feel guilt for nearly everything, esp. pain in
those I'm living with (in the same home).  Last night I broke down and
gave him another chance because I felt _so_ damn guilty for chosing a path
that was best for me.  I just can't live with myself knowing that my 
leaving would leave him in a total state of despair... and I don't think 
he'd ever recover.

	Maybe tomorrow during my last class (the one the paper is due in --
and is linked to me entering grad school) when the lights are turned down
during the movie I'll slip a little something when no one is looking... 
since my prof knows how tired I'll be, he'll just think I'm sleeping (until
I don't wake up at the end of class).  The one person in class who
would notice that I was more than sleeping won't be there tomorrow... 
And, of course, no one in class reads this group...  what a blissful idea.

	Psycho Kitten (in crash&burn mode)


-- 

Psycho Kitten   \ zaphodb@brahms.udel.edu    \ See me at pecan \ Can I buy a  
Angela M. Watson \ awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu \ for more info   \ clue please?
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: HMMMMMM????!!!
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:03:15 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1dbjfcINN5i@male.EBay.Sun.COM> sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM (Sheri Gillette) writes:
>gee, is THAT all the flaming i GET?!
>gaw, you guys...yer no *fun*!

fun??  This is a.s.h. - we don't have fun, we bash our heads against walls, 
or cut 31 parallel lines into our forearms.  This is the group for people 
who were in the locked garage with the engine running when they noticed a 
large airgap at the top of the door and gave up in case it didn't work 
properly and they ended up a live cabbage instaed of a dead person.  this is 
the group for people whose gardens contain ONLY poisonous plants.  this is 
the group for people who don't get their brakes fixed because, hey, not 
knowing whether you're gonna make that trip in one piece is the best high we 
know.

If you want flames, post about US sitcoms on alt.comedy.british

What the hell kind of a name is Sheri, anyway?  Couldn't your parents 
pronounce Cherry?



  You don't have to work to be mad here      email: d.budd@mcc.ac.uk
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: I am tired.  I am weary.  I could sleep for a million years
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: alt.suicide.holiday
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:36:06 GMT

Ah for the good ol' days when I was having panic attacks.  I think I
have a flu or something, I barely have enough energy to get up in the
morning.  It makes my job a little more interesting...
As a result of this,  everyone is "worried" about me.  I keep on
hearing people asking me, "What's wrong?"  What a polite way of
telling someone that you don't respect them nearly enough to tell them
your problems?  I'm thinking of, "If I wanted your help, I'd lie on a
couch in your office and pay you $60 an hour."

Oh well, whatever.  All of these flame wars have caused the Indigo
Girls' Prince of Darkness to run through my head the last few days.
Brady should make it his theme song, "My place is of the sun/ and
this place is of the dark/ And I, I do not feel the romance/ I do not
catch the spark..."  (So was that a statement of respect for Brady?
Was that a flame?  Much like IBM, I'll let you make the call...)
-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- King of the ellipses
       (dsteinbe@emmy.nmsu.edu)
**********************************************************************
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* With a bad reputation         * film major, when all I really      *
* That's a sign of the nation's * wanted in this life was to marry a *
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From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Re: This Khare thread
Organization: Bull Milking Dept., Special Sauce Bureau, McDonald's
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:56:08 GMT

<U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.060407.17550@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,
>boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch) says:
>
>
>Thanks for that polemical post!
>
>I, for one, will sleep easier tonight knowing that critical
>thinking is under your expert care...
>
>Whew!
>
>Brady

I apologize for calling you a flamer in disguise.  I was wrong.

Insults get point-by-point responses, and arguments get ignored.
Tantamount to admitting you have no point, but what the hell, you've
already admitted that.  In that case it makes sense.

I don't enjoy defending hopeless positions, but I can see the
attraction.  It's certainly more of a challenge than attacking
hopeless positions is.  In that role I would feel silly continuing
this for much longer; it's no fun being the straight man.

If you honestly believe that these sitting-duck claims of yours serve
a useful purpose (i.e. making people angry somehow being a positive
thing), I disagree.  Suppose I were to believe you are serious.  I
might get angry, but the anger would be wasted in attacking a set-up
opponent.  But more likely it would just make me feel gloomier.  I
already find society's various shit "debates" pretty gloomy, as they
mostly reflect people's stupidity and I believe that something could
come of those debates if they were conducted more rationally.
Particularly annoying and absurd are arguments that are stupider than
the persons involved because neither side feels that the other merits
the best argument they can produce.

I believe it's useless (although fun perhaps) to either practice or
apply the whole discipline of propaganda and clever use of fallacies
when dealing with anyone over the age of, say, eight.  If you have a
valid point then weaseling about isn't necessary, and while propaganda
in response to propaganda _might_ work better than logic, if you use
logic instead (ripping the propaganda apart, perhaps) then at least
some of the gullible types might eventually learn the difference.

Next time you have something to say, say it like an adult, instead of
speculating on how an unsupported insult might make someone's life
better.  And if you start out with unsupported insults again, don't
get high-and-mighty if someone replies by calling you a weasel with
your head stuck so far up his ass that you're wrapped up in yourself
like a snail in its shell.

Have a nice day.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 6 Nov 1992 22:27:24 CST
From: <U56503@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: KHARE (again!!!)

In article <1992Nov5.112931.1748@bradford.ac.uk>, R.Dodgin@bradford.ac.uk (R
DODGIN) says:

>In response to Brady's postings ..... no I am not
>being pressured into reading/posting to ASH. I haven't

Good news.

>ever stopped reading ASH but haven't posted much as I
>don't have much to say (too happy !!!). It's possible that

More good news.

>I won't ever post on here again but I will always keep
>reading this for as long as I can..... I made some good
>friends on ASH and I am still interested in them and their
>lives....

Also good news.

>Anyway, cheers for the concern Brady - it's nice to know
>that you are still as caring as ever.

Wishes for the best for you Khare!  Glad you are happy now.
Truly.  <ASHers allergic to positivity may vomit now.>  ;))

Brady

>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>||  Rich "KHARE" Dodgin      | Too many unknowns in your life ???    ||
>||  R.Dodgin@uk.ac.bradford  | Too many onions in mine.              ||
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~Brady Woodward PhD=~=~U56503@UICVM=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
  SATAN to NEW-COMER: The trouble with you Chicago people is that you
  think that you are the best people down here, whereas you are merely
  the most mumerous. --Mark Twain  (All other thoughts are mine alone.)
=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: drw@taylor.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley)
Subject: Re: Longing for the land of long grass...
Organization: MIT Dept. of Tetrapilotomy, Cambridge, MA, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:24:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct27.034346.27467@udel.edu> awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson) writes:
   I'm rather irked that I let him lead me on for nearly THREE
   years... I certainly wouldn't have put up with his mental abuse and
   his hideous fiscal habits if I had known that he wasn't serious
   about making a lifetime commitment to each other.  So much for
   love...

Yikes!  "I'd put up with him for three years, only if that gives me a
chance to put up with him for the rest of my life."

But I'm being unfair -- marriage does give one a sense of stability,
of belonging, of security, etc. that people desire.  And people will
put up with a lot (probably too much) to get that sense of security.

(On the other hand, there have been times in history when people
volunteered to be slaves, because being a slave was better than being
free.)

Dale
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: *thunk*thunk*thunk*
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:52:23 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark


	**THUNK****THUNK****THUNK****THUNK****THUNK****THUNK****THUNK**

	SOMEONE HIT ME OVER THE HEAD WITH A 2x4 PLEASE!!!!

	I'm so tired... I don't know what the hell I'm doing... I said I'd
	marry him because he was having a nervous breakdown at 3am and begged
	me to give him one last try...  **AARRGGHH**

	now I can just about kiss grad school goodbye since my grades are
	going to shit at warp 9.

	*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*
	*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*
	*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*
	*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*
	*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*THUNK*

	
	(a VERY disraught) Psycho Kitten


-- 

Psycho Kitten   \ zaphodb@brahms.udel.edu    \ See me at pecan \ Can I buy a  
Angela M. Watson \ awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu \ for more info   \ clue please? 
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Pheonix 14)
Subject: Re: Sheri's reply...longer than a MUH-FUH...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:59:58 GMT

sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM (Sheri Gillette) writes:


>you're a writer? (i don't know the name of the guy who posted the flame to me!)
                      I don't believe he was flaming you.

>thanks for listening...
                      ...no charge...
euclid
--
Phoenix 14, euclid@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (preferred)
standard disclaimers apply
The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a 
Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven --John Milton "Paradise Lost"
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: His turn to rant...
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:01:59 -0600

In article <1dm99fINN50e@male.EBay.Sun.COM>  writes:
>
>>>>The female human seems to be attracted only to the
>>		type of man who is "dangerous".  This usually translates
>>		into complete jerks who have no respect for women.  Nice
>>		guys definitely finish last in this arena.  
>
>
>uh-yeah...
>
>that's what *I* always look for in a guy!
>
>NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>>>> Nice
>guys definitely finish last in this arena. 
>
>Maybe you should know just what kind of ARENA you are jumping into
>before you decide to play?
>
>er?

Hmm.. A "Nice singles only" bar??
From: R.Dodgin@bradford.ac.uk (R DODGIN)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: KHARE (again!!!)
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:29:31 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91760652@ccw314


In response to Brady's postings ..... no I am not
being pressured into reading/posting to ASH. I haven't
ever stopped reading ASH but haven't posted much as I
don't have much to say (too happy !!!). It's possible that
I won't ever post on here again but I will always keep
reading this for as long as I can..... I made some good
friends on ASH and I am still interested in them and their
lives....
Anyway, cheers for the concern Brady - it's nice to know
that you are still as caring as ever.


Ta ta for now,

       KHARE xxx.


 
-- 
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||  Rich "KHARE" Dodgin      | Too many unknowns in your life ???    ||
||  R.Dodgin@uk.ac.bradford  | Too many onions in mine.              ||
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From: paladin@planet10.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike Being...)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Call me when...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 03:55:16 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: planet10.wpi.edu

In article <1992Nov5.024039.18039@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> tjones@orville.psu.edu (Brain Drain) writes:
>In article <1d46uhINNsjl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
>>In article <1cuvmtINNbcd@life.ai.mit.edu> jprovo@Gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wandering Pedestal of Angst) writes:
>>>..the redeemers leave -- zoner, steve ok, andrea, somebody!!
>>
>>Awww, it not so bad is it Joe? We haven't seen the Random Acts BS lately... :-)
>>
>hey, whats wrong with the periodic reposting of the "random acts of violence"
>file?  or did you mean the one that the shiny happy people like to post?

	he meant the "Practice Random Acts of Kindness" fromthe shiny happy 
  human... gah.... but was that sickening... i don't mind helping people... 
  i don't mind being nice... but that was a bit too much... 

	and i will disaggree with any and all posts about random violence... 
  but then again... that is the way i am... (ask zoner...)  then again...
  i am not much on planned violence either... guess that is why i am second 
  string... *shrug*

laters..

 Paladin (ever shifting bearlike being....)	     
     Reality	       | " Wouldn't you laugh if your head exploded???  
 		       |	 No.... I guess you wouldn't.....	 
 paladin@wpi.wpi.edu   |   I would."   (Nosage, June 91)

human is the foulest name i can ever call a person......
From: vance@lpl.arizona.edu (Vance Haemmerle )
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: life is death is life (a poem)
Summary: poem
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:30:29 GMT
Followup-To: alt.suicide.holiday
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

life is death
a cold existence
slave to this world
surrounded by banality
smothered by the uncaring
the hopeless and frustrating
not sinful for suffering to end
all is forgiven in the eyes of god
spreading wings to the infinite
the weight upon me is lifted
this mortal physical body
returning to the earth
the sky embraces my
unleashed spirit
death is life
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: hughes@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Susan Hughes)
Subject: Re: Hmmmmmm???
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:29:28 GMT

In article <1d9ci5INN1kv@male.EBay.Sun.COM> sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>-sheri
>*******************************************************************************
>by the WAY, i was ASKING a QUESTION because i was CURIOUS!
>                                                  ********
>
>i was just ASKING to see how you all FELT.

Guess you didn't like my answer }:)
Lottie
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: *thunk*thunk*thunk*
Keywords: Psycho Kitten
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:59:51 GMT
Organization: The Eternal Order of Chaos


	...just me sinking back into despair...

	
	*moan*  *thunk*  *thunk*

	...nothing drives the guilt away...

	...everytime I try to cut it off, it finds another source...

	...and now the nightmares return...

	...with the daymares not far behind...

	

	...and all I can think of is the feel of a hemlock milkshake
		gliding slowly down my throat...

		...so cool and inviting...
	
			...and me so far from the botanical gardens...

	
	Psycho Kitten

-- 

Angela M. Watson / awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu /       [.sig under] 
Psycho Kitten   / zaphodb@brahms.udel.edu    /       [construction]
From: jage@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jeremiah)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Hmmmmmm???
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:25:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1d6trbINN1sf@bigboote.WPI.EDU> megazone@rajeesh.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
>Please do not speak for all of us... At times I WANT TO DIE, gasp, yep, that's
>right. Sometimes when I'm very happy I want to die right then. Die happy. No
>pain to end. Sometimes I just get so damn curious as to what the hell is out
>there, if anything, that I want to die just to find out. I've done a lot of
>crazy things just to find out what it was like. I'm insatiably curious....
>

	If I think to long about something, and what would happen,
	how it would turn out, I will do it.  I had a friend who 
	was obsessed with me for years.  She was a total slut, and 
	I didn't love her.  She fit many other catagories that 
	intrested me.  We had a one night stand, because I thought
	too much about what it would be like to be with a slut,
	how a one night stand would feel, and what this particular
	female would be like.  So I decided I would not regret the
	moment, and we had an intense one night stand.  All the 
	conclusions my pondering had yeilded were right, and I had
	known it, but I had to do it to know for *real*

	My point?  If I were to think to long about jumping off a
	cliff, I would jump just to see if I was right.
	

-- 
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  "When I'm bad, I sit in a tree,               jage@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
   and spit on people who walk under me."     Present company is *always* the   
		-The Dead Milkmen             exception.  
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM (Sheri Gillette)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: HMMMMMM????!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:51:56 GMT
Reply-To: sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jett.ebay.sun.com


gee, is THAT all the flaming i GET?!

gaw, you guys...yer no *fun*!

O8*P

(i'll respond to Megazone's posting in a bit!)

-sheri
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: ssw5356@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Hmmmmmm???
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:26:09 GMT
Reply-To: ssw5356@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1d6jumINNp92@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM (Sheri Gillette) writes:
>
>
>
>I am curious to know how many of you out there are *survivors*?
>
>What I mean is...how many of you have had to live through the 
>
>suicide of a family member, or someone THAT close to you?
>
My first husband stood in front of me and shot himself in the head with my hand
gun ( a 22 magnum derringer that I carried in my purse).  2 years ago a young
friend  of mine shot himself also in the head.  There used to be a group for
Suicide Survivors offered by  a mental health clinic here,  I don't know whether
it is still active.   Anjo

>I wonder if you would look at your lives differently if you had?
>
>The way I see it, is... I'm gonna %$#& this place before it $#%*s
>
>ME! Damn, I know sometimes it is so hard to believe there is a light at
>
>the end of the tunnel, but it is THERE. I know that no one WANTS to
>
>die, they just want to end their pain somehow. Maybe now, David can
>
>be a guardian angel for one of *us*.
>
>Take care all...
>
>-Sheri
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