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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:08:00 CDT
From:         CHEESE B-} <CHEESE%ETDAI2.decnet@ETD88A.MDC.COM>
Subject:      Dont' Be : Sorry about the Amiga stream...

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>
> This kind of crap is probably the chief reason why most subscribers to this
> group "lurk" instead of openly participating. Pardon to the rest of the
group,
> but this needs to be said. Flame to /dev/null.
>
> --
> Jim (moore@email.ncsc.navy.mil)


	I must apologize to the readers in this newsgroup. I think I wrote the
original message that started this stream and though I had reservations about
mentioning it hear because of this, I posted it anyway in response
 to a comment about ibm and next.
	At any rate, even though I am a strong supporter of the Amiga, I also
now own 9and am very pleased with) a 486 and enjoy this newsgroup alot.
So just want to say sorry to Jim and the rest of the group for starting this.

	I take the blame for this flame.........
Eric D.
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Eric,

You aren't to blame for the flames nor the stream.  What you've done is simply
inject healthy objectiveness into this forum.  That people 'lurk' is NOT a
crime, they are enjoying the fruit of discussions on Windows and other relevant
topics (related to Windows).  When they are ready to say something, they will.
Not everyone with ten fingers on a keyboard is as gregarious as those whose
names appear regularly in the From: field.  <self included>

Healthy digressions normally wither as their usefulness ends.  Such as this
digressing stream.

Have a Day!

Chee Woo Leong	America Online : Echthelion (@aol.com)
		Internet : cheese%etdai2.decnet@etd88a.mdc.com
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:43:58 CST
From:         Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Speaker Driver for Windows 3.1
              21 Jul 1992 13:45:25 CST from <AUD_BWT@SHSUODIN.BITNET>

>I would love to get the sound driver, but how do I get into
>ftp.cica.indiana.edu? The USER anonymous command appears to work, but what
>should I use as the password?

You should use your userid.  By the way, you won't be able to get in during
the working day in Indiana - they restrict ftp to non-business hours (so that
they can get some work done).

Gaynor Kybett                                   kybett@max.cc.uregina.ca
University of Regina, REGINA, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:17:55 BST
From:         A.S.Booth@DURHAM.AC.UK
Subject:      Win3.1 SDK

What's the current price for this in the US?

Andy Booth
Durham Univ UK
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:24:00 CST
From:         The Romster <GLO92420@ACUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Printing to FILE:

Please remember to use the command

COPY filename.ext PRN /B

to send a print file to a printer.  This is mainly true for laser printers
that may imbed the ASCII character 26 several times.  When this happens,
printing will stop when this end of file mark is enocuntered.

(The /B tells the printer to send ALL information to the printer as a binary
file)

I hope this helps.
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:14:00 EDT
From:         Vince Scarafino <Scarafino@MULTICS-A.PMS.FORD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Windows and EMS
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 >Date:  26 July 1992 11:25 edt
 >From:  PHIL at MASH.COLORADO.EDU
 >Subject:  Re: Windows and EMS

 >Would it help to use the smartdrv that comes with Windows 3.1?  I've read in
 >this forum that it supercedes the DOS 5.0 smartdrv.

You read it, but I was in error when I said it.  The version that comes
with DOS 5.0 supersedes the version that comes with Windows 3.0.  It's
stated on page 304 in my MS-DOS User's Guide and Reference manual.  My
former statement had been from (faulty) memory.  Sorry for the
confusion.

Vince
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:18:26 CST
From:         Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Printing to FILE:
              22 Jul 1992 13:48:26 EDT from <wjanis@BIOSTATS.HMC.PSU.EDU>

Your problem is typical of what happens when the printer doesn't have
enough memory.  Are you using several fonts on the page?  If so, try with
just one font.  If you're only using one, try printing less per page.

You could also try     copy filename lpt1
I use that without any problems, but I don't think it's your problem.

By the way, I know that the HPIII will print Arial (TrueType) from Excel
when directly connected.  I did it this morning.

Gaynor Kybett                                   kybett@max.cc.uregina.ca
University of Regina, REGINA, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:33:00 MST
From:         "J. Scott Williams" <AUJSW@ASUACVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Compatibility with PC Tools

Was the CP Launcher upgrade/fix a post 7.1 fix?  I am using 7.1 with
Windows 3.1 (and the launcher) and haven't had any problems.  (...but,
I have yet to make extensive use of the launcher)


Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:32:00 MDT
From:         LSHIV <LSHIV@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      WP4W color options ? ? ?
X-To:         win3-l%uicvm.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu

     Can somebody please tell me how I can switch the background and foreground
colors in Word Perfect for Windows 5.1.  With my monitor black letters on white
background are hard to read.  I have successfully used other combinations in
Turbo Pascal and Borland C++ to get colors that are much easier to read, But I
don't know how to do this in WP4W. Any help would be appreciated


LSHIV@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
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From:         A.S.Booth@DURHAM.AC.UK
Subject:      pkz193a.* @ CICA

Is this a genuine version of PKZIP, or is it a littl;e beastie that wants to
eat large chunks of my hard disk?

Andy Booth
Durham, UK
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:28:00 MDT
From:         Vic Garside <INTVIC@ENG.MED.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Microsoft DBMS product

   Does anyone know anything about the progress and possible arrival time of
   a Microsoft Windows DBMS product?

Cirus (I think it is now called Access) is in beta and is expected 1st Qtr
93.  FoxPro for Windows is in final beta testing and is expected in a month
or two.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:18:14 EDT
From:         Jeffrey R Kell <JEFF@UTCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TrueType and W4W 2.0a
X-To:         advogl@iastate.edu, win3-l@uicvm.BITNET

On Mon, 27 Jul 92 09:53:46 -0500 you said:
>In article <920727.095149.EDT.JEFF@UTCVM> you write:
>>After installing Win3.1, I can't seem to do anything with TrueType fonts
>>in W4W 2.0a.  I have Win3.1/W4W 2.0a/LaserJet IIIP.  No TT fonts appear [...]
>>/Jeff/     jeff@utcvm.utc.edu
>When you go to control panel-fonts do any true types appear under installed
>fonts?? If not, click on add; if so, click on truetype and make sure they are
>activated. If this doesnt work, please respond.

I should clarify.  Yes, they are installed via control panel fonts and they are
turned on.  They appear fine in MS Write and other places, but do not appear
anywhere in W4W.

/Jeff/
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:58:25 EDT
From:         R3CEN <R3CEN@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 3 com ports

In the message from Sarah Bush @ UAMS posted Mon, 20 JUL 1992 15:48:00 CDT,
she stated 1) Procomm doesn't support COM 4 and 2) Interrupt changes for
COM ports had to be done hardware-wise.  Well, Procomm DOES support the
use of COMs 1-4 since version 2.4.2 (Sarah may be using an old version when
most machines only shipped with 2 ports)  and if you're running Windows 3.0,
no hardware changes need to be made in order to run, say, a mouse on COM 2 and
your modem on COM4.  Windows 3.1 allows you to do this anyway, but in 3.0, you
need to edit 4 lines of your WIN.INI file.  If anybody is interested, I can
give you the lines to edit for Windows 3.0.  A word to the wise though, Windows
and Procomm don't work together for some reason I've yet to fathom.  UNICOM is
IHO the best Terminal-Shareware package.  It has the same features as Crosstalk
and runs just as nice ..... but it isn't as steep in price.

That's my 2 cents, for what it's worth.
Hope this helps.
Craig'92
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:33:06 +0300
From:         KARGRA@GBA930.ZAMG.AC.AT
Subject:      Reply to one more os/2 vs. windows
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Hi Louis:
>     I don't think that either OS/2 2.0 or Windows 3.1 will die, beacause in a
>recent article, IBM intended os/2 , not for small buisiness or hobbyist, but
>for the budget of the Fortune 500, where IBM makes most of its profit.  Where
>as the requirement for windows 3.1 are a lot more affordable.  It seems to me
>that both will take there own market space, with only a limited competition.
>     It seems that Windows 3.1 is a better choice for desktop system, and OS/2
>is a better choice for "bigger" systems.
>     The reason I say this, is beacause I can afford a reasonable setup for
>windows, but there is almost no way that I can afford a setup fo OS/2.
>(hardware wise)
A limited competition: Currently you are right. But don't forget, that you
can't compare OS2 to WIN 3.1. OS2 is an OS, Win3.1 is not. And for the price:
OS2 is cheaper. Win 3.1 requires DOS. And both products together cost more than
OS2. At least here in Austria. As I hear, the point of costs will not change
when WIN NT comes out, though this comparison does not seem to be correct, too.
Win NT, they say, will be a multiuser system too, which is not OS2. But WIN 4.0
should be a thing to compareable. This might be the fist direct counterpart.
Maybe OS2 was not intended to be for the small business and for hobbyists, but
actually I have the impression, that most of the sold OS2 copies run in such
environments - correct me if I'm wrong.
As for the hardwarerequirements: OS2 runs happily on a 386SX ! Win 3.1 does too
- but neither of them will win a benchmarktest. Maybe the the demand of memory
(disc and ram) is a little higher, but in days, when the baseconfiguration of a
lowcost pc is oftenly a 80MB disc and 4 MB ram, this is not a problem for either
of them. As I read, a hd-size of 80MB will be a problem for WIN NT. And Win 3.1
too runs better on machines with more memory. BTW: COrelDraw 3.0 will take at
least over 10MB up to 30MB. So the size of a HD is never too big under Windows.
Murphys law: You always have 1MB too few, even if you know this law...
Alfred
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:32:29 PDT
From:         alistair@MICROSOFT.COM
Subject:      comp.os.ms-windows.announce echo to win3-l
X-To:         win3-l@uicvm.uic.edu

It has been pointed out to me that there would be great value
in echoing the comp.os.ms-windows.annouce netnews newsgroup to your
win3-l bitnet list. We, Microsoft, will be trying to post announcements
of things like the Win32 SDK, conferences and other useful info
to the comp.os.ms-windows.announce group, and I think it would
be useful if that whole .announce group could be echoed to your
list.

I do not know how to set this up - Our microsoft site cannot
act as a gateway. Our email/news system would not support this
echoing.

It's also not practical to simply suggest that Microsoft post
everything twice, since we're not the orginators of all the
messages - and its a moderated news group anyhow - the moderator
being outside Microsoft

If any of you would volunteer to do this, I'm sure that would
be useful -- Alistair Banks, Microsoft Systems Division

(p.s. I'm not on the win3-l list myself)
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:31:00 CDT
From:         SJBUSH@UAMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: New Information On OS/2 Part 2

We don't need to get into the Amiga's...They are internally timed for
video production and do not have the business software support
necessary to be considered an engine.... Yes they do brilliant video
work, as PCs are not internally timed correctly for video, but they
are terrible business machines....

Sarah Bush
Consultant, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:19:53 +0300
From:         KARGRA@GBA930.ZAMG.AC.AT
Subject:      autostart
X-To:         win3-l%uicvm.bitnet@helios.BITNET

Hi folks,
a new astonishing thing I found: I had 5 prog's in my autostartgroup. Then I
added filemanger and configured it to start as an icon. But whenever I start
win it never comes up. WHY?! Is autostart limited  to 5 prog's??????
Alfred
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KARGRA@GBA930.ZAMG.AC.AT  # BUT don't tell my wife, whom I love best...
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:12:51 CST
From:         "Paul A. Byers" <PAULB@SATURN.UARK.EDU>
Subject:      Procomm + for Windows
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU

I've been using Procomm Plus for Windows. Works great! It handles
downloads and com4 with no prob. It also displays GIF files as you
down load them and has some very powerfull script commands. All in
all a great terminal package.

Paul A. Byers
University of Arkansas
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:00:21 BSC
From:         "Marcus V. Tarquinio" <MARCUS@BRUFMG.BITNET>
Subject:      Thanks & Windows VGA Cards

> ...
> A bigger number indicates better performance.  Here they are:
>
> 256 colors
>
> Diamond Stealth VRAM, Diamond driver, 1024x768,;;45.25
> ATI Ultra, ATI driver, 1024x768;;;;16.05
> Diamond SpeedStar, Diamond driver, 800x600;; 1.82
> Trident 8900, Trident driver, 1024x768;;; 0.79
>
> 16 colors
>
> Diamond Stealth VRAM, Diamond Win 3.0 driver, 1280x960; 8.45
> Diamond Stealth VRAM, Microsoft S3 driver, 1280x960; 9.07
> Diamond SpeedStar, Diamond driver, 800x600;; 3.65
> Paradise, Paradise driver, 800x600;;; 3.46
> Orchid ProDesigner II, Orchid driver, 1024x768;; 3.18

Thank you Vance Gloster for the above information. Like our friends
from Europe Bob Kane and Peter A. Robinson, sometimes I feel nobody
receives my mensagens. It's good to know there is a 'kind soul' out
there !

Anyway, I am sill waiting for impressions on the Orchid Fahrenheit 1280.
If you are using one of those, please tell me what you think of it. You
can send answers direct to me.

Marcus Valle Tarquinio                     (MARCUS@BRUFMG.BITNET)
Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais, Belo Horizonte - MG, BRAZIL
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:03:00 EST
From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      TSeng ET4000 drivers uploaded!
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU

Okay, folks.  I finally got my version (from CompuAdd) of the Tseng ET4000
display drivers for Win 3.1 uploaded to ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  The name of
the file is ET4WIN.EXE and is self-extracting.

I noticed there were others drivers out there that looked simialar.  Let
me know if these drivers have any improvement on performance.

I just loaded them a few hours ago.  Hop they work for everyone else!

Joe Morris, undergraduate & Assoc. Data Analyst in Raleigh, NC
Western Carolina Univerity                               Practice safe hex,
Internet:  IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU                 Just say NO to viruses,
BITNET:    IS480P02@WCUVAX1.BITNET     And always wear a write-protect tab.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:02:26 GMT
From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Wallpaper .GIFs, .BMPs
X-To:         Microsoft Windows Version 3 Forum
              <WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu>

While you are on wuarchive.ustl.edu, look under /graphics/gif.  They have one
of the most extensive libraries of GIF files that I have ever seen.  Get a copy
of WINGIF or better yet ALCHEMY and you can convert most of these to BMP's.
Many of these are high resolution photographs.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:12:06 CDT
From:         Moore <moore@EMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Win32 SDK Prelim.
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu
              17, 92 12:32 pm

According to Microsoft, the printed documentation won't ship until August, so
you're limited to the on-line HLP format and the PostScript source (looks like
it was created with Ventura Publisher ;-) for documentation.

A note to those who are receiving the CD-ROM now: be certain you're charged
$20 shipping as opposed to $5. If you pay $5 you're getting the Preliminary
release ONLY, not the subsequent release(s). Boy, wouldn't THAT be a pisser.

--
Jim (moore@email.ncsc.navy.mil)

I drive the very latest hover car.     I met someone who looks a lot like you.
  I don't know where you are,                She does the things you do,
but I miss you so much till then.      but she is an IBM.
From: 89kenward@gw.wmich.edu (Strahd Von Zarovich)
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Subject: Re: TRIDENT T8900 - Driver for Win 3.0 / 3.1
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:46:36 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <199207242114.AA12240@harvey.gte.com>, "WIN 3.1, ahhhh much better!" <hatzm%venus.dnet@GTE.COM> writes:
> Hey Christoph, I meant to hit you up in the mail for the new Trident 8900
> drivers for Win 3.1.  Can one of the kind souls who helped him, help me?
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike Hatz
> hatzm%venus.dnet@gte.com
> Colorado Springs, CO

If someone could extend that courtesy to myself also, it would be much
appreciated.

Recently, my current drivers (which I got from wuarchive) kept gacking
while working with Word Perfect for windows.  Also, my dos prompt
gacks because of the drivers too.

I'm looking for either drivers for the 8900 that someone has and knows
works or a number for Trident (bbs or tech support) so I could get
them from Trident.

Thanks all

-- 
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It's not who you know                                     89KENWARD@GW.WMICH.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:23:36 +0800
From:         yshwang@UZ.NTHU.EDU.TW
Subject:      Re: Speaker Driver for Windows 3.1

> > >You can get the driver for your internal PC speaker from
 ftp.cica.indiana.edu
> > >It's not vaporware, although the quality of the sound varies considerably
  with
> > >the quality of the speaker - in my experience: very good on a PS/2 Model
 70;
> > >OK on a Zenith LP386SX.
> > >
> > >Gaynor Kybett                                   kybett@max.cc.uregina.ca
> > >University of Regina, REGINA, Saskatchewan, Canada
> >
> >Well...what's the file _called_?


>
> ......
> :  o/ : Bruce Hulsey
> : <|  : Univ. of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
> : / > : internet: bbhulsey@life.uams.edu
> :.....: bitnet:   bbhulsey@uams

> Same question from me!

> ---------------------------do you think so----------------------------
> (  Jurgen W.G. Bentz               <> bitnet:   v144@dkauni2.bitnet  )
> )  Institut fuer Radiochemie       >< internet: bentz@kit.uni-kl.de  (
> (  Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe <> paper:    Postfach 3640        )
> )  voice: +49 7247 82-2141         ><           W-7500 Karlsruhe     (
>    fax:   +49 7247 82-2630         <>           Germany              )
> -------------------------let's discuss about--------------------------


The speaker driver is called 'SPEAK.EXE' located in
   /pub/pc/win3/sounds directory on ftp.cica.indiana.edu

SPEAK.EXE is a self-extracted file, that is, you can get the sound
  driver by excuting 'SPEAK.EXE'


     Y.S. Hwang                  yshwang@Uz.nthu.edu.tw
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From: veit@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Veit Zimmermann)
Subject: Re: Diamond SpeedStar Hi-Color TSeng ET4000 Drivers
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: fb20
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:35:26 GMT

loescher@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stephan Loescher) writes:


>I'm searching Win3.1 display drivers for the Diamond SpeedStar Hi-Color.
>The chipset is a TSeng ET4000 and it has 1MB RAM and can display 32K colors.
>
>Could please anyone post them (uuencoded) into this group?
>
>Many thanks to all !!!
>
>S.L.

Darf ich dich daran erinnern, dasz die treiber _gepackt_ etwa 1MB grosz
sind? Ich glaube es ist sinnvoller sie zu ftp'en.
Z.B. von aix370.rrz.uni-koeln.de (o.a.).

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