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From: kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Pregnant roller-blading
Date: 8 Jan 1993 08:16:51 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
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I have a friend who is about 7 months pregnant.  She has stopped 
playing roller hockey (thank god), but she still insists on 
"pleasure" roller blading.  On a skating skill scale of 1 (Marty McSorely) 
to 10 (Paul Ranhiem), I would give her about a 5.5.  She wears full 
protection (most of the time :), so the scrapping injuries I don't worry 
about.  I guess I just worry about the bigger falls which could cause 
internal damage.  She is kind of old (30), so I would hate to see her 
have a bad accident and have to start over again.  I know that one of the 
advantages of rollerblading is the low-impact nature of the exercise, and 
I understand that it is important for pregnant women to continue to get 
some kind of exercise up to labour, but when is the best time to hang up 
the blades and just settle for boring walks down the beach.

Isaac (kim@bull.ucsd.edu)
From: jeff@maggot.gg.caltech.edu (Jeff Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Ice Dancing Music
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:41:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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In <C0CFE8.86y@apollo.hp.com> dbrown@apollo.hp.com (Diane Brown) writes:


>I'm looking for some information on where I can purchase
>Ice Dancing Music for ISIA or USFSA tests.  Any suggestions
>appreciated.

I know of at least two places to look.  
	1) Classified ads in the back of Skating magazine.
	Nearly every month an ad appears for Ice Dance music.
	These are probably good sources for bulk music cheap.

	2) If, however, you want a tape for your individual program,
	a few folks will make tapes for you.  I assume, though
	I've never tried, that these cost more, though you can
	check for yourself.  I'll mail you the phone number of 
	one person I know who is on the national music committee.
				--Jeff
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Wheel lore
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:19:24
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: pae@teal.csn.org's message of Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:56:57 GMT

In article <C0nx6y.LH0@csn.org> pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:


   Two summers ago, all the in-line racers were using 74A wheels, which where the
   *softest* wheels commercially available. I doubt if most of these guys have
   degrees in physics, but you can bet your bottom dollar that they were using
   the fastest wheel available at the time.

   On a rough surface, it's probably more important to maintain contact with the
   road surface than to lose some of your energy to internal friction. If you
   can't get the rubber to the road, you can't get optimal acceleration from your
   skating stride. Thus, a wheel with *less* rebound (and, probably necessarily,
   more internal friction) will yield greater speed on a rough surface.

As we have heard from *indoor* quad speed skaters in the past, the preferred
rating for indoors are in the mid to high 90s. I think the ideal would
be to find an anisotropic material -- one that resists being made out
of round, but yet soft enough in the radial direction to do its thing
for rough skating surfaces. 


Orating from well rounded lips :-o -- not :-0
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 11 Jan 1993 15:06:50 MST
From: <AUSDM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.skate,
Subject: rollerblading

could anyone help me with tips for buying rollerblades?  there are so many plac
es that sell them.  i am not an experienced skater, but would like to be. pleas
e reply soon.
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Music at Public Skating Sessions
Date: 9 Jan 93 12:54:02
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: jkaplenk@lucpul.it.luc.edu's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:16:55 GMT

In article <jkaplenk.726355015@lucpul.it.luc.edu> jkaplenk@lucpul.it.luc.edu
(Joe Kaplenk) writes:

   I am an ice skater that has recently added roller skating to my 
   actvities and also worked as an ice guard. I've noticed the same thing 
   about lousy public skating music on ice. As a guard we weren't setup
   or allowed to play anything but the radio station music. We would
   have had to bring out a tape deck to the announcers booth to play
   tapes and then would have had to fight people for which music to play 
   and would have to continually chase away the rink rats from the 
   booth.

   The other staff at the rink just couldn't handle playing the music. They
   were too busy with other things. It was just easier and policy
   to play the station music. I suppose that if there were enough
   complaints they might consider other alternatives, but usually
   it was just to change the station.

If there was more priority paid to producing good acoustics and good
sound reproduction, then some of these issues may clear up. It is just
a fact that most ice rinks do not place the music as a priority. (Ice
rinks make their $$$ on ice rental (Hockey) now days. (Ie activities
where simple driven horns for the sound systems is acceptable.)
Actually, I don't not recall *ever* seeing an ice rink that does NOT
have a PA setup (70 Volt PA amp with PA horns) as its sound
system.

Imagine an ice rink designed like a night club (like the roller rink
Roxy in NYC) -- kind of bizarre.

   As I see it, the reason for limited exits is because of the difference in
   architectural design and user needs on an ice rink compared to a roller rink. 
   On ice tall barriers and limited access are necessary for hockey games and ice
   skating competitions.  It also requires high and extensive seating thus 
   making easy exit more difficult.

You go to the Rainbo roller rink in Chicago as I recall. That has lots
of high seating that works.


   If  I were ever to become involved in designing  an ice rink I 
   would like to bring some of these ideas to ice. I think it
   could liven things up. In a dual rink setup it would not be
   necessary to have high barriers and large seating on 2 rinks, this
   would make it easy to clear the ice in a format change during public
   skating.

Here, here!

   Anyone got a few million to spare?

Several skating folk in the Boston area are looking around for a
potential roller rink investment here in the Boston area  to make up for the
much-missed Spinoff.


Regards,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com
From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:06:41 GMT
Subject: Re: helmets/lids
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD
Newsgroups: rec.skate

I wear a PROTEC UltraWarrior Windsurfing helmet.  It is VERY lightweight
and sells for about $50 at board shops.  It has ear pieces for windsurfing
(big - covers the ears) and bicycleing (small - covers the temples).  I
use the big ear pieces since I Windsurf alot, but I've just recently discovered
they also help keep my ears warm.

Kirk out
From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Request for another faq topic (WAS Re: Rec.skate Frequently-Asked Questions: General Info (1/7))
Date: 6 Jan 1993 12:34:52 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
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In-reply-to: iainw@bnr.ca's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:54:35 GMT

iainw@bnr.ca (Iain Woolf) writes:

   I would be grateful if someone could add some hints to the FAQ files
   on how to skate backwards, turn to go backwards, etc. (I skate with
   ice hockey skates, but I would think the principal is much the same
   for in-line, and possibly figure-skating?)

It seems like whenever these topics have come up in the past, the
general consensus is that taking a skating class is likely to be far
more helpful than any written information, since the instructor can
point out what you're doing wrong and how to correct it.  Also, there
are a number of books available that describe basic skating techniques
(with pictures), if you really want to read about how to skate.

My experience has been that basic skating skills are indeed pretty
much transferable between different kinds of skates, so don't rule out
something like the "basic skills" classes offered by many figure
skating clubs even if you don't have any interest in learning how to
jump or spin.

-Sandra
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: gregX@organia.sce.carleton.ca (Greg Franks)
Subject: Natural ice...
Organization: /home/organia/gregX/.organization
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:38:06 GMT

In article <thole.726312623@cs.rulimburg.nl> thole@cs.rulimburg.nl (Johan Thole) writes:
   And now for something completely different...

   Here in Holland we had the possibility to skate on natural ice this
   weekend. Really fantastic! We have made some really nice trips on the
   canals and lakes in the neighbourhood. That's *real* skating, at least for
   me! Much better than a boring ice-hall.

   Happy skating,

   Johan Thole.

Here in Ottawa, they plow and flood the Rideau Canal during the
winter.  We have 8km or so of natural ice.  Cross-overs -- who cares?
Furthermore, one can pig out on "beaver tails" and hot chocolates
along the way (one must keep one's energy levels up :-)

Towards the end of January and begining of February there are 10, 20
and 40km races on the canal.  There used to be a 100km event, but the
organizers have long since lost interest.

  ..greg
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Music at Public Skating Sessions
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:06:11 GMT
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In-reply-to: barisajj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu's message of 8 Jan 93 14:33:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.143341.12097@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
barisajj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Joe Barisa) writes:

   Having once worked in a Roller Skating Rink (doing
   everything from repairing skates, cleaning floors and yes
   playing music) I have to agree with the sentiment that
   Roller Rinks tend to have "Programs" more so than ice
   skating.  The Rink I worked at offered a wide variety of
   programming.  For instance Thursdays and Sundays were
   adult/dance nights when we either had live or taped organ
   music. Fridays Saturdays and Saturday Late Skates were
   "top 40"/dance/rock. Sat and Sun afternoons "Top 40"
   (basically what ever anyone asked for if we had it we
   would play it). Wednesday was interesting in that it was
   an attempt to provide both organ music and "top
   40"/dance/rock. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it did
   not.

   I personally do not like "DANCE" music, just not my type
   of music, however it is very good to skate to and
   therefore appropriate.  At the same time I also believe a
   mix is needed in order to satisfy a wide range of tastes.
    Maybe a 80/20 mix of Dance(80) to rock(20).  I was once
   at a session were they played 3 tracks by Tecnotronics in
   a row and it was rather boring and monotonous to me and
   from the number of people who left the floor half way
   through the second track I imagine many others felt the
   same ... Dances of
   course usually 4 2-3 min numbers.


To me, it sounds like that this rink might not have *enough* diverse
programming. They seem to be "loading" up a session with everything. I
have noticed that the USA rinks (a surviving chain of rinks from the
roller disco era) are a good example of diverse programming. They tend
to have multiple adult sessions during the week with different emphasis
-- some might might be organ "dance" nights, others may have a top 40
format, others may have a contemporary dance club format (playing
House, HiNrg, Euro-House, Freestyle, Techno, etc). Of course, I like the
last format the best. BTW, does anybody else out there like skating to
Techno?


Dancing the night away on skates,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com
From: pennelln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Lloyd Eisler's address 
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:36:25 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I am a GREAT fan of Lloyd Eisler's and I was wondering if anyone out there has  
his address.  Please post or e-mail.  Thanks!
From: ac999257@umbc3.umbc.edu (ac999257)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Triple JUMPS RULE ( WAS Re: Pro vs Am)
Date: 9 Jan 1993 01:10:42 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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In article <C0Jns0.7zs@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> npscott@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (npscott) writes:
>
>
>A WRONG interpretation of the rules here.  There isn't a limit to
>the number of triple jumps allowed in a program at any point in the '80s.  The same rules still apply today.

Sorry! But in my own defense, I wasn't quoting anything I had seen
written in any rule book. I believe I heard this on TV during a skating
telecast from a sportscaster. I don't like quoting statistics like 
this unless I'm very sure that I heard it from some reasonable source. 
Unfortunately, sport commentators on TV undoubtedly often interpret 
rules incorrectly to suit their own needs. 

But as someone says in a followup post, there
was a new rule added shortly after the 1982 performance of Elaine
Zayak. So my point about placing limitations on what a skater
does still stands -- it's sometimes used to affect a trend or
what could happen in a sport. Sometimes this is good, and sometimes
it is bad. But the rules of any given sport must reflect the
capabilities and desires of the athletes participating in that
sport. A sport that doesn't change will not grow with the
athletes. 

Mary
From: dbgrvv@arco.com (Rosana VanDerGrinten)
Subject: Re: Favorite Skater
Organization: AAI - ECS
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:29:18 GMT


|> 
|> >My favorite 'up and coming' skater is Nicole Bobek.  I saw her most
|> >recently on this years 'Evening of Championship Skating' on PBS and was
|> >very impressed with her technical and artistic ablilties (and she's only 15).
|
|> 
|> I don't think Nicole Bobek is only 15. I think she is around 20.  I also think
|> that her technical abilities are efficient enough to compete with all the top
|> skaters in the US.  Everytime I see her skate, she doubles out all of her triplejumps!
 
|> 
|> Venus
|> 


Nicole Bobek is indeed 15 . She just moved to senior level maybe in the past
1-2 years. It did show her inconsistencies in her jumps and lack of polish
in her overall routine, but give her a few more years and she'll be up
there.

Now for my favorite skater- Paul Wylie- for his perseverance in achieving
the highest he could get in skating plus his determination to finish his
education. He became the favorite of the mothers in the rink where my
daughter skates as a good example to follow.

There is no doubt though that Brian Boitano is the best technical
skater around.

Rosana Van Der Grinten

Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: ewalents@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Erich Walentschak)
Subject: Re: Favorite Skater
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:20:24 GMT
From: kewasiel@unix.amherst.edu (They call me Ren)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Amateur vs Pros
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:56:56 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
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Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Kevin Anderson) writes:
: 
:    Over the last several months I've heard rumours that just
:    about every big name skater since 1980 is going to apply
:    for amateur status to compete in the next Olympics.  I'm
:    curious as to how that works.  How can you be a pro one
:    day and then an amateur the next?  
: 
: By desisting from the activities that caused one to lose eligibility
: in the first place.  I haven't actually seen the new rulebook, but
: from reports I've read in the newspaper (etc) it appears that the major
: banned activity has been participating in unsanctioned pro competitions.
: Also, pros can only be reinstated once -- if they lose eligibility a
: second time, they're out for good.

in the past, the rule has been that the skater has to do no 'professional' 
activities for a full year.  has this been changed?  (a professional activity 
basically refers to ice skating for money, whether in
a show, or teaching, or endorsing products.)

(: karen
--
     kewasiel@cs.amherst.edu	_|_    "the philosophers have only interpreted
   kewasiel@unix.amherst.edu	 |      the world, in various ways; the point,
kewasielewsk@amh.amherst.edu	 |      however, is to change it."    -k. marx
From: kcreta@sedona.intel.com (Kenneth Creta)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Wheel Rotation Question
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:27:01 GMT
Reply-To: kcreta@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation, ASIC in the Desert
Originator: kcreta@sedona


In article <55870035@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom) writes:
> I have a wheel rotation question (I think).
> 
> I use Aeroblades and have noticed that they are making a noise when I
> start my power stroke.  Checking them I find that the front wheel
> bearings are loose on each track - they still spin OK, they just wobble
> more than the others.

If you pack your bearings with grease yourself, I'd suggest to redo it.  If
not, I can't help you.

> 
> My wheels are worn so I am going to do a rotation as the FAQ suggests.  The
> question is should I put the front wheels and bearings on the inside or
> should I replace the front bearings first and then still put them on the inside?

Huh?

> 
>         Now             After rotation:
>     L1        R1         R2     L2
>     L2        R2         R4     L4
>     L3        R3         R1     L1
>     L4        R4         R3     L3
>        Rear                Rear

I rotate this way:
         Now             After rotation:
     L1        R1         R3     L3
     L2        R2         R4     L4
     L3        R3         R1     L1
     L4        R4         R2     L2
        Rear                Rear

Ken
kcreta@sedona.intel.com
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: debrm@iastate.edu (D Reed-Margetan)
Subject: Re: European Championships
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:54:29 GMT

In article <0fIQ8ne00iUx82tala@andrew.cmu.edu> el1q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erica A. Lipasti) writes:
>Can anyone tell me if any of the European Figure Skating Championships 
>will be televised (or have been in previous years)?  I've never seen any 
>of this competition on network television before, so I suspect I won't 
>this year.  But perhaps there might be something on cable?  I believe
>the competition (which is being held in Helsinki) will conclude this
>coming 
>weekend.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Erica


Last year the European Championships were covered by either
NBC or CBS.  The commentators were Sandra Bezic and Robin
Cousins-not Scott Hamilton- so I'm guessing that it was CBS..
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:54:57 -0500 
From: "Robert J. Havey" <havey+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: figure skating outfit



i need some fabric to make a figure skating outfit--black spandex with sequins.
does anyone have a clue where i could find something like this, or know of
someone who could help?  a phone # with an address would be great.  i'd
appreciate any leads.

thanks,

  /       /
 /_______/__
/_) (_) /_)


havey+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: iainw@bnr.ca (Iain Woolf)
Subject: Request for another faq topic (WAS Re: Rec.skate Frequently-Asked Questions: General Info (1/7))
Summary: How to skate backwards...please help
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:54:35 GMT

I would be grateful if someone could add some hints to the FAQ files
on how to skate backwards, turn to go backwards, etc. (I skate with
ice hockey skates, but I would think the principal is much the same
for in-line, and possibly figure-skating?)

I would do it myself but for the fact I haven't mastered the skill
yet  :-(  (Hence the request!)

Cheers,

            Iain.

-- 

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From: mark@sdd.hp.com (Mark Overton)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: cheapo slideboards
Date: 7 Jan 1993 00:32:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
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In article <C0D2s8.3L8@unix.amherst.edu>, kewasiel@unix.amherst.edu (They call me Ren) writes:
| um....what's a slideboard?  what do you do with it?  just curious.

I was wondering the same thing:
What's a slideboard?  A previous posting made it sound like something you
skate on with ice skates.  Is that true?

- Mark Overton,  mark@hp-sdd.hp.com  (Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division)
From: fc03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Frederick W. Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Music at Public Skating Sessions
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:52:46 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

A Bipartisan Question -- for Ice AND Roller Skaters...  :-)

Due to inceased demands of job and school, I find that I no longer
have time to skate during figure skating sessions during the week, and
instead skate during public skating sessions on the weekends (which
aren't so bad).  I notice that my ice rink doesn't play any particular
music during public sessions -- just whatever is on the average rock
radio station.  In contrast, the few times I have gone public skating
at a couple of roller rinks in my area, the roller rinks played dance
party music, which (if you like to dance -- and I do), seems much more
conducive to skating.

I enjoy skating to danceable music much more than skating to any old
thing.  I am curious to know how other ice and roller rinks around the
country handle their public skating sessions -- whether they play
certain kinds of music, etc.  I think that my rink is missing the boat
by not making a modest effort to choose decent music for public
skaters (and I will probably make a suggestion to the owner).

Fred Chapman
Skater Gone Public
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Newsgroups: rec.skate
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 1993 10:48:13 -0500 
From: Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: Ultra Wheels Gretzky Wings: my comments
Distribution: na

Well, congrats.  I bought some Wings over a year ago and I've been
very happy with 'em (I even raved on the group here about 'em back
then).  

You really got a great price.  I guess because they've discontinued that
particular model.  I haven't tried the Eurorails or the Air-Comprex yet,
and I believe those are the replacements for the Wings.  

I agree with your comments about the tongue, it is kind of a drag.  I
use my skates for hockey mostly and I really like 'em for that.  

Where did you order them from?  At that price I'd consider picking up a 
2nd pair.

--Tom