From: johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: disappointing endings -- was(ND vs. Michigan)
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:05:17 GMT
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In article <1992Sep15.050744.26002@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin) writes:
>johndoe@squid.inmet (i) writes:
>>one of the less disappointing components of one of the most disappointing
>>endings ever to a college football game.  if notre dame and michigan both go
>
>The most disappointing ending (IMHO) was when UM and Illinois ended tied
>3-3 in '85.  The game was at Champaign on Halloween weekend.  Champaign
>had a big, unofficial street party for Halloween.  With the score tied 3-3
>Illnois attempted a FG, and the ball hit the crossbar and bounced back.
>70K+ people sure got quiet.  Later on Green street (this was the last year

my statement is in reference to how the game is viewed from both sides of
the ball.  i think the one single person who was not disappointed with the
nd michigan game this year was lou holtz.  the nd players looked
disappointed, the nd fans sounded disappointed, the michigan players looked
disappointed, the michigan coach expressed his extreme disappointment, the
announcers expressed their disappointment, and i have read maybe one or two
opinions that even come close to supporting lou holtz in his playing for a
tie amidst quite an outpouring of disappointment from most of the rest of
the net.

sure, i'm sure that the illinois fans were disappointed with their tie to
michigan, primarily because a couple of more inches and their team would
have won; i would venture to guess that michigan probably felt a lot more
lucky and relieved at having not lost than disappointed at having tied, no
matter what happened during the rest of the game.  i, too, can think of
other more personally disappointing games (nd leading usc 24-6 at halftime,
then getting blown out 55-24 in 1972, colorado getting a winning kick
blocked against illinois to mar an undefeated season, the previous year in
the orange bowl playing a pretty good game between the 30s, but losing to
notre dame in the orange bowl because of mental mistakes, and giving away a
national championship, many others), but for all of my disappointment, there
are opposing fans who are elated that those victories occurred.  i cannot
count my personal disappointments amongst the most disappointing games of
all time.

some other most disappointing games of all time would definitely be:

- the 10-10 tie between michigan state and notre dame of 26 years ago
(talked about at length most of last season on the networks).

- the 10-9 colorado victory over notre dame in the orange bowl, with ismail
returning a punt 91 yards to apparently foil the colorado bid once again,
only to have the play called back on a marginal clipping penalty.
(especially when georgia tech could have officially taken the orange bowl
bid according to the agreement the acc had set up with the citrus bowl, and
alleviated all doubt as to who should have been #1).  related to this would
be the 5-down game between colorado and missouri earlier in the year.

>Mike Timlin
>timlin@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college