HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hoan@herb.net.com (DDinh Hoa`n)
Subject: Re: Question about calling VN
Originator: hoan@moe
Reply-To: hoan@herb.net.com
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:54:55 GMT

In article 20727@cunews.carleton.ca, nguyen@turing.scs.carleton.ca (H.H. Nguyen) writes:
> 
> 	Just out of curiosity here:
> 
> 	Are the country and region/area codes provided above also
> valid if you use MCI's services ? For that matter, are they also
> valid for people dialing directly from Canada ?  Here in Ontario, Canada 
> we have Bell Canada aligning with the US MCI, whereas its competitor
> Unitel aligns with AT&T.

As far as I know, CCITT is the responsible party which sets these codes.
As such they are the standard being used in the telecommunication industry.
A service provider, such as MCI, should follow this recommendation.  Whether
they provide this service of direct dialing or to go through another network
is provider specific.  I suppose one may always call to check first.  So the
answer is yes, the dialing plan should be the same regardless of where on
the planet one is calling from, assuming the service is available at the
facility.

> 
> 	I've checked Bell Canada's latest phone book, they don't list
> Vietnam as a country directly dialable from Canada. However, I
> suspect there must be a way if I really want to. Receiving operator-
> assisted collect calls have been do-able for a long time, but I hate the
> shrilling, shrieking (Northern) accents of Vietnam's operators.  
> The 4-KHz bandpass filters obviously didn't do a good job :-))
> 
> 	Regards,
> 	H.H. Nguyen

If Bell Canada/MCI doesn't list VN's code, chances are they don't support
the service.  However, the direct dialing option has just been established
recently by AT&T.  They may now also support it via renting from AT&T.
Filter an 8 KHZ voice bandwidth into 4 KHZ is a little overkill.  Studies
have shown that ladies' voice are in general higher pitch than that of
gentlemen.  The wavelength from this particular operator's voice may have
been above 8 KHZ.  Personal experience also indicates that married men have
higher chance of loss of hearing than that of their women counterpart :-)
That's probably why gentlemen feel a hurt in their ears before their hearts
when their wives/girlfriends are in an angry mood :-)  Even normal human ears
have trouble on long distance voice without a filter.  I suppose this is
another classic case of quality versus cost issue.

Ciao,
Hoa`n

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: spr9279@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: RE: "lvp0901@ritvax.isc.rit.edu" postings
Reply-To: spr9279@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:34:14 GMT

        


>
>      I agreee with Mr. Le's advice.
>
>grow up guys! and  stop pha't ngo^n bu*`a ba~i nhu* con ni't  pho'ng ue^' 
>va^.y.
>
>TDN-


	Ca^.u TDN a`,
Sau khi -do.c xong ca'i message cu?a ca^.u, thi` cha'u lie^`n xin phe'p ba'c
-DKDQM -da(ng le^n va`i lo+`i -de^? ba`o chu+~a cho ha`ng ha^.u bo^'i cu?a tu.i
cha'u.


	Ca'i na^`y oan cho tu.i cha'u la('m a` nha. Mo^~i la^`n cha'u -di 
pho'ng ue^' la` cha'u vo^ nha` ca^`u, -do'ng cu+?a la.i ro^`i tu+` tu+`
drop....va`o trong ca'i bo^. Chi? co' ma^'u chu' ca^?u la` hay cha.y sang
 nha` ngu+o+`i ta ma` pho'ng ue^' bu+`a ba~i.
       Cha'u,
	Tra^`n Thi. Chua Cha't.	                                     

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: mdo@socrates.umd.edu ("Mike T. Do")
Subject: [JUNK] 01/26 and Words of Wisdom
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:03:20 GMT

Happy Birthday to ....

Anita Baker		Singer		35
Eartha Kitt		Singer		65
Wayne Gretzky		Hockey		32
Paul Newman		Actor		68
Gene Siskel		Critic		47
Roger Vadim		Director	65
Eddie Van Halen		Musician	36

In 1880, Douglas MacArthur, he did return!

On this day ...

In 1788, 1st settlement established by the English in Australia
In 1950, India becomes a republic

Australia Day, celebrated in (Where else?) Australia.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A boy gets to be a man when a man is needed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: vo@work.seas.upenn.edu (Nghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Sa('p su'?a dda'nh nhau lo''n.
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:31:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

SCV sa('p su'? a dda'nh nhau to ro^`i.  Hay thie^.t.  Thie^n ha. mo''i tha'i
bi`nh co' mo^.t chu't, thi` chie^'n tranh la.i bu`ng no^?.  Du` sao ddi cha(ng
nu'~a, co' dda'nh nhau thi` ddo.c SCV mo''i tha^'y thu' vi.
From: giap@NVL.ARMY.MIL (Giap Huynh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Tho+ ta(.ng bo+.m nha^.u
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:08:00 GMT
              USENET." <VIETNET@USCVM.BITNET>
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]


       Cu.c ta'c, un? i?n, ga^'u ga^'u ..
       Con ga` cu.c ta'c la' chanh
       Con lo+.n u?n i?n mua ha`nh cho to^i,
       Con cho' kho'c du+'ng kho'c ngo^`i
       Me. o+i me. ho+?i mua to^i do^`ng rie^`ng.

    Khoa'i Kha^?u
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vac251p@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (VNSpellChecker)
Subject: Re: Ba`i toa'n dda^`u na(m!!!!!!
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:21:24 GMT

atvu@dpeipc1.radsci.UCI.EDU writes:

>Ca'c ba.n tha^n me^'n!!!!!!
>	Nha^n di.p xua^n ve^`, L. me^'n chu'c ca'c ba.n va` gia
>quye^'n 1 na(m mo''i, an khang, thi.nh vu'o'.ng, va.n su'. nhu' y',
>su''c khoe? do^`i da`o, tie^`n ba.c va`o nhu' nu'o''c, ti`nh duye^n
>ngon la`nh:-))))... Sau dda^y L co' 1 ba`i toa'n nho? cho ca'c ba.n
>dde^? khai bu't dda^`u na(m la^'y he^n!!!!

>Ba`i toa'n:
>	Xua^n dde^'n tha(m DDo^ng trong 1 khu apartment go^`m 101 apartment,
>vi` la^u 0 ga(.p, Xua^n dda~ lo'~ dda'nh ma^'t sso^' nha` cu'a DDo^ng,
>Xua^n vo^.i dde^'n manager dde^? ho?i address cu'a DDo^ng, o^ng manager
>tha^'y Xua^n de^~ thu'o'ng va` tho^ng minh ne^n " la`m kho' de^~"
>Xua^n ba(`ng ca'ch ddu'a ra 1 rule sau: Xua^n co' the^? ho?i bao
>nhie^u ca^u cu~ng ddu'o'.c, nhu'ng o^ng ta chi? ga^.t dda^`u hay la('c dda^`u
>dde^? ra hie^.u la` ddu'ng hay sai ma` tho^i. Theo ca'c ba.n thi`
>PHA?I CA^`N "I'T NHA^'T" BAO NHIE^U CA^U HO?I DDE^? XUA^N BIE^'T
>CHA('C CHA('N ADDRESS CU'A DDO^NG???? ( prove your statement nhe'!!!!)

>Tha^n
>long

Co' fa?i la` du`ng binary search va` so^' la^`n i't nha^'t la` log_2_(101) 0?
(log co+ so^' 2 cu?a 101)

VSC

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: pvl0556@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: To all those little boyz @ RIT....
Reply-To: pvl0556@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:36:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.201458.24239@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, spr9279@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.225736.8739@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, pvl0556@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>to spr9279,
>>hey user spr9279, or should i say bac' ho^
>                                   ^^^^^^^^
>   Please call me uncle "Le^ Nin"
>   I think we are in the same family, because we have the same last name.
>
>>
>>... my ass.. who ever you are, why are you hiding under this person (spr9279)
>     ^^^^^^^
>     Please don't show it in puplic, nobody wants to look at it :))
>Don't you remember me?? I am your uncle in law :))))
>   Actually, that is my account. I haven't never hung around w/ you, that
>is why you did not know me. 
>
>   PVL a`, ba'c nghi~ la` cha'u ne^n -do^?i nghe^` la` vu+`a -di....
>cha(?ng ha.n nhu+ ca'i nghe^` "va' e'p ba'nh xe lu+?a" hay la` nghe^` "bo+m
>ba'nh xe bo`". Ma^'y ca'i nghe^` na^`y no' ho+i cu+.c chu't xi'u, nhu+ng ma`
>tinh tha^`n -du+o=.c thoa?i ma'i co`n h+n la` ho.c nghe^` -die6.n tu+?. Ba(`ng
>chu+'ng la` cha'u bi. chu+'ng "ma't ma't khu`ng khu`ng" sau nhu+~ng na(m -deo
>-duo^?i ho.c ngha`nh na^`y.
>Ba'c -di nghe cha'u ngoan,
>-DKDQM
>Ps. Chu'c cha'u -da.t -du+o+.c nhie^`u tha`nh qua? trong vie^.c theo ho.c
>ngha`nh mo+'i.

le nin, man! if that's what you are.. :-)
i'm sick off your ____; go find something better to do, would ya?..
From: kien@xuan.sps.mot.com (Kien Banh)
Subject: Re: [MISC] IF I WERE THE BA'NH CHU+NG MAKER
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:03:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.195922.24526@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> , nguyen@enbp.cs.fsu.edu (Lucy Nguyen) writes:
> ...Speaking of nontraditional cooking, does anyone know of any
>microwave Vietnamese cookbooks? I've done some microwave Chinese cooking.
>It's not bad when you're in a hurry, like I am most of the time lately. I've
>gotten it down to 10 minutes for a fully cooked meal(5-6 min for the rice, 3-4
>for the meat and veggies, depends on the kind of meat).
>
>Lucy

Hi Lucy ,

Would you share with us your 10-minute-meal recipe(s) ?
I would like to speed up the cooking process so that ...
I can eat more often .

Dda.i Soa'i
From: PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Personal msg to s/o at Colorado
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:09:07 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

From: cs252dg@lamar.ColoState.EDU (so lame)
Subject: Re: 10 million dollar richer
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:33:46 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


>Thanh buddy ... :-))

>Would u pls let Duc dream a bit huh ??

>Duc ....

>OF COURSE it's not hoax .... really ... I am serious !! ..
>go ahead .. send it in .. and I guarantee that u will be 1 of the 10
>finalist ...

This is a serious message that I hope will get through to you.
Don't bother provoking me with your tactics of the gutter, I will
simply ignore them, for you have shown yourself how low you can be.
If you want to be serious with me, contact me by email.  Otherwise,
any further flames by you can only add one more evidence of your
cowardice and low-life attitudes.


Duc
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vac251p@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (VNSpellChecker)
Subject: Re: [Nhac] Could I Have This Dance
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:06:51 GMT

mai@cs.mcgill.ca (Tuyet-Mai TRAN) writes:

>In article <1993Jan24.144924.3724@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au> vac251p@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (VNSpellChecker) writes:
>>mai@cs.mcgill.ca (Tuyet-Mai TRAN) writes:

>>>>Hi chi. Ngoc Diep,
>>>>
>>>>Em bie^'t la` co^ ca si~ Anne Murrey cu?a Canada hay ha't ba`i na`y
>>>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>Ba^.y qua', te^n cu?a ng` ta ma` spell sai be't.... DDu'ng ra la`
>>
>>>ANNE MURAY
>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Heehee ba.n co`n sai ho+n, co^ ta te^n la` Anne Murray ddo' :)
>>
>> VSC

>Da. thu+a ba.n VSC,
>Ca'm o+n ba.n dda~ su+?a du`m lo^~i cu?a TM. DDu'ng ra ca'c te^n ta^`m
>ba^.y tre^n dde^`u do mo^.t mi`nh TM vie^'t trong lu'c ngu? ga` ngu?
>ga^.t, tro^ng ga` ho'a cuo^'c. TM cu~ng bie^'t mi`nh co' ta^.t dda~ng
>tri', ne^n dda~ ca^?n tha^.n check la.i. Khi kha'm pha' ra mi`nh dda~
>hai la^`n vie^'t sai, thi` lu'c ddo' news dda~ ddu+o+.c gu+?i ddi
>ro^`i.  TM na?n qua' ne^n tho^i ke^., chu+' mo^~i la^`n post news la.i
>bi. program ho?i "This program might cost thousands of dollars. Are you
>sure about what you're doing?", TM ho+i nga.i, kho^ng m~ruo^'n chi? mo^.t
>va`i lo^~i chi'nh ta? ma` pha?i dda(ng ddi dda(ng la.i nhie^`u la^`n nhu+
>the^'. TM chi? mong ca'c anh chi. va` ca'c ba.n dda.i lu+o+.ng.
>Ca'm o+n anh/chi. VSC dda~ chi? ba?o. TM xin hu+'a tu+` nay se~ co^'
>ga('ng ca^?n tha^.n ho+n...

Kho^ng co' chi la` kho^ng co' chi :) dda^`u na(m dda^`u tha'ng vsc ngu? ga`
ngu? ga^.t ne^n ho+i picky 1 chu't xi'u tho^i a` :)

Cheers,
VSC :)
From: tungle@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Le Thanh Tung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Bo^' & Vo.  Xin du`ng vie't nu~a ...
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:31:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Thua bo^' & vo.

	Toi doc bai cua hai nguoi viet tren SCV ngay mot qua dang. Xin
2 nguoi hay ngung gia dong lam bo^' & vo. cua toi. Co muon noi cai gi
thi dung ten cua minh noi voi nhau nhu nguoi lon, chu dung lam nhu tre
con nhu vay. Mot lan dau thi toi lam ngo cho chu cu thoi quen thi toi
phai xin hai nguoi dung lam nhu vay nua.

		Tung


Dear bo^' & vo.

	I read your articles the two of you wrote on SCV and it is getting
out of hand. Please stop. Don't "pretend to talk" as the voice of my "father"
and my "wife". If you have something to say, say it using your own names
because it is pretty childish to pretend you are talking for somebody else
when in fact you are not. The first time I can ignore, but please stop
it from happening further.

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From netnews.upenn.edu!newsserver.jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!auvm!COMBINET.COM!HUNG Wed Jan 27 00:29:33 EST 1993
Article: 25156 of soc.culture.vietnamese
From: orion@IASTATE.EDU (Phi H Truong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Ba.n co' bie^'t
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:32:00 GMT
Reply-To: orion@IASTATE.EDU (Phi H Truong)
Organization: Iowa State University

In article <1993Jan26.052714.8353@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, tdn7039@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
(Thomas Nguyen) writes:
> In article <9301260323.AA00783@media.mit.edu>, "Tuan Tu --UNMCVM(TUANTU)"
<TUANTU%UNMCVM.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> writes:
 >to^'n he^'t ca? nga`n ca lo^ ri ro^`i, he^'t xi' qua'ch co`n la`m a(n g`i
> >nu*~a...???  Bo*?i va^.y, tui -da^u co' ca^`n -dai e't bao gio*`...
> >
>      TUI HO^?NG TIN! TUI HO^?NG TIN RO^`I -DO'...
> Tre^n the^' gian na`y tui chu*a bao  ga(.p qua  
> ngu*o*`i thie^'u nu*~ hoa(.c -da`n ba` na`o -de.p 
> -de^'n no^~i  ma` tui  nhi`n mo^.t ca'i ma`
> -da~ la`m tui ma^'t he^'t xi' qua'ch, kie^.t que^. va`
> he^'t la`m a(n gi` nu*~a.
>

ne` Thomas ngu+o+i -da~ bao la^u ro^`i mo+'i -di kha'm ba('c si~ ma('c va^.y? 
Ta no'i cho o^ng ba.n bie^'t, ta cha(~ng nhu+?ng ga(.p mo^.t ngu+o+`i ma` ga(.p
ca~ ma^'y chu.c co^ .  Nhu+~ng co^ ga'i na^`y chi? lie^'t ma('t thi` cha(?ng
nhu+~ng ngu+o+i tay cha^n lu~ng bu~ng ma` co`n muo^'n qui` xuo^'ng xin la`m
mo^.t no^ le^. ti`ng ye^u le^`n.  :)
 
> Thanh nie^n ma` uo^'ng cao ly se~ tro*? tha`nh spanish bull! 
> con ga'i ma` uo^'ng cao ly .. thi`.. ..thi` tui ho^?ng bie^'t a` nghen :)
> co' le~ se~  tro*? tha`nh senorita matador .(not sure)
> tui -doa'n mo` -do'.
> 

isn't this the same as Peptobismal?  :))

--
        _____________________________________________________________
        |  orion@iastate.edu	        Only in silence the word,   |
	|  Phi H. Truong		Only in dark the light,	    |
	|				Only in dying life:	    |
	|				Bright the hawk's flight    |
	|				On the empty sky.	    |
 	|					by Ursula K. LeGuin |	
        |___________________________________________________________|
From: spr9279@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Ca dao VN
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:22:01 GMT
Reply-To: spr9279@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Ca'c ba.n nghi~ nhu+ the^' na`o ve^` ca^u tu.c ngu+~ sau -da^y:

	-Da`n o^ng mie^.ng ro^.ng thi` sang,
     -Da`n ba` mie^.ng ro^.ng thi` tan hoang cu+?a nha`.

-DKDQM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: cs252dg@lamar.ColoState.EDU (so lame)
Subject: Re: JOKE
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:33:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1993Jan19.194102.11981@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> ltran@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Liu Kang) writes:
>A well dressed lawyer when into  a  bar for a martini and found himself
>beside a scrungy-looking drunk who kept mumbling and studying something
>in his hand.  The attorney leaned closer while the  drunk held the tiny
>object up to  the light, slurring "Well, it looks like plastic."  Then
>he rolled it  between his fingers, adding, "But it feels like rubber."
>
>Curious, the lawyer asked, "What do you have there mister?"
>
>The drunk stammered, "Damn, if I know, but if looks like plastic and
>feels like rubber."
>
>The lawyer said, "Let me take a look."  And the drunk handed it over.
>The attorney rolled it between his thumb and fingers, then examined it
>closely.  "Yeah, it does look like plastic and feel like rubber, but I
>don't know what it is.  Where did you get it anyway?"
>
>The drunk replied, "Outta my nose."
>

HANHVO .. see what I mean ?? please come back .. what did I do to deserve 
such joke ...... please ........... HANHVO .. on my knee begging !!!!!!!!!

HANHVO !! HANHVO !! HANHVO !!!!!
From: thait@col.hp.com (Thai Tran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: 10 million dollar richer
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:52:44 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpcsrp4.col.hp.com

<PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>       some friends of mine received a big envelope from
> the Publisher's Clearing House, declaring that they had
> won 10 million dollars.  According to your experiences,
> is this a hoax or not? Did anyone actually win this
> sweeptake?
> Le Duc

   I got one too about six months ago stating that I won 10 million
dollars.  After reading some of the materials in the envelope for about
30 seconds, I tossed everything in the trash...

   Maybe your friend got a different kind of envelope, but on mine, the fine
lines at the bottom stated that I was one of the eight or ten finalists
chosen for the "Grand Prize" drawing and the number they assigned to me was
something like "XYZW891001AB".  I figured that the odds that the computer -
or what ever they were using to generate the winning number - to come up
with this same set of characters and numbers I had was one in several
trillions...

   I don't mine P.C.H. sending me all this stuff once in awhile, because
occasionally, I subscribe to some of their magazines;  I find that they
have some of the best subscription rates around.  When I feel like
winning a million dollars, I go out and buy myself a lotto ticket... 8-)

Thai
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: pvl0556@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: New Year's Dance
Reply-To: pvl0556@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:26:13 GMT

hey dude, 
how about sending me a round trip ticket to ca?.. the party sound like fun
=====> I'LL BE THERE <======
From: vo@watusi.seas.upenn.edu (Nghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: GOING BACK TO VN
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:24:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

We have everything to lose from Vietnam's isolation  and only fools 
says "Oh they are communists ... don't help them."  Even Mr. Nguyen Cao Ky, 
the arch enemy of communists openly calls for Vietnam's normalization.


IF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE, THEN THERE ARE AT LEAST 50% ON THIS SCV AND OVERSEAS
ARE FOOLS.  GOSH.  YOU ARE 24 YEARS OLD NOW, AND IN 1975 YOU WERE 7 YEARS OLD.
SO I FIGURE THAT IT IS OK FOR POEPLE LIKE YOU TO USE MR. KY` AS A VIVID EXAMPLE
FOR "NEW THINKING".  


PS: I'm not in favor of communism. I've lived in the US for 11 yrs. Came when
      I was only 13 yrs old. Worked hard and made it up the ranks in the US.
      Now studying in an  Ivy League university, graduate soon and will have
      lots of jobs waiting for me. But each night  I only dreams of coming
      home to Vietnam. To help the people I left behind. 


YOU FORGET TO MENTION THAT YOUR SCHOOL IS BOTTOM-UP IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL.  WHAT
DOES IT DO WITH YOUR DREAM TO COME BACK TO VN?


      I've been back in Vietnam 3 times and images of our people suffering 
      never left me. The gov is very friendly and welcomes with open arms. 
      They are ready to lay rest to past conflicts, after all we are all 
      Vietnamese people born of the same blood. What ideology we believe in
      is not as important as what we have done to help our country.



			Le Thanh Tung
				   tungle@eniac.seas.upenn.edu  (Penn)


NORMALIZATION-SUPPORTING POEPLE ALWAYS USE THIS TERM TO BACK-UP FOR THEIR
ARGUMENT: The gov is very friendly and welcomes with open arms. 
      They are ready to lay rest to past conflicts, after all we are all 
      .......

THAT IS TRUE BUT FOR ONLY PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT MONEY BACK TO VN, SPENT LIKE CRAZY
, AND THEN LEFT.  WHEN YOU CAME BACK TO VN, YOU WERE A PASSER-BY.  YOU COME AND
YOU GO.  WHEN YOU LEAVE VN, YOU DON'T CARE WHAT REALLY HAPPENS TO EACH EVERY
VNMESE MENTALLY.  AS LONG AS YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH, THE GOVERNMENT TREATS YOU
 LIKE A KING.  CAN YOU READ VNMESE?  IF YOU CAN, DID YOU READ VNMESE NEWSPAPER
WHEN YOU WERE IN VN?  HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU READ STORIES ABOUT LACAL "
CU'O'`NG HA`O A'C BA'"?  VNMESE DID NOT ELECT THOSE BASTARDS, BUT UNTIL NOW
THEY STILL HAVE TO LIVE UNDER THEIR CONTROL?  IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE A 
TRUE EXPERIENCE, WHEN YOU ARE IN VN, REMOVE YOUR "VKYN" CLOTHING, MINGLE
WITH THE POOR AND NORMAL PEOPLE, LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES.  WHEN YOU FACE THE
AUTHORITY, DON'T TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE "VK", AND TELL THEM YOU ARE JUST 
ANOTHER LOW-LIFE IN SAI`GO`N (I ASSUME) INSTEAD.  SEE HOW THEY TREAT YOU.

  I THINK IN THE US, PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT (BUT NOT
IN VN).  IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK VN TO HELP..., THEN GO.  I APPLAUSE TO YOUR
COURAGE.  BUT PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR: DO WHAT YOU SAY, DON'T JUST SAY AND NEVER 
DO ANYTHING LIKE A NOTORIOUS PERSON IN THE US WHO USUALLY CALLS PEOPLE TO GO 
HOEM TO REBUILD THE COUNTRY, AND HE EXCUSES HIMSELF NOT TO GO BACK BY SAYING:
I AM TOO IMPORTANT TO GO BACK.


THAT'S ALL FOLK.


AL BUNDY--
From: 0005359961@mcimail.com (Van Tran)
Subject: [THO+] THO+ TRA^`N Y' VA^N
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:11:32 GMT

n u+? a     x u a^ n   II


                    Kha? lie^n xua^n ba'n ba^'t hoa`n gia
                           (Tru+o+ng Nhu+o+.c Hu+)


Xua^n dde^'n chung quanh va^~n im lo+`i
Cha(?ng tra`, cha(?ng tie^.c, cha(?ng tro` cho+i#.
Va('ng tie^'ng vui ddu`a, gia^y pha'o no^?,
Im lo+`i chu'c tu.ng, khu'c ho` o+i#.
Tuye^'t no+? tra('ng nga^`n tre^n ma'i nu'i;
Su+o+ng gia(ng ba`ng ba.c cuo^'i cha^n tro+`i#.
Thi` ra DDo^ng va^~n co`n dda^y ddo'
Nu+?a mu`a Xua^n dde^'n, nu+?a mu`a tro^i#.


                         *  t r a^` n      y'     v a^ n  *





Ba`i sau la` ba`i repost:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thu+'c Gia^'c



I#.

DDe^m khuya thu+'c gia^'c la' go.i tha^`m
Co? sa^u ddo^i de^' chuye^.n la^m ra^m.
La^'p la'nh nga`n sao tre^n suo^'i nho?
Ba`ng ba.c kim cu+o+ng thoa'ng ma('t la^`m.


II#.

Co`i ta`u hu' vo^.i trong su+o+ng dde^m
A^m thanh vang la.i vo.ng qua re`m.
Chuye^'n ta`u cho+? khua^'t bao ngu+o+`i nhi??
Sao cho+? ddi cu`ng gia^'c mo^.ng e^m?


III#.

Bo+ vo+ mo^.t tie^'ng chim ke^u
Nu+?a dde^m kha('c khoa?i the^m nhie^`u co^ ddo+n.
Cuo^.c ddo+`i tha(.ng thu?y ta`n so+n
Hoa ro+i, nha.n la.c cho'ng so+`n mo^.ng xua^n (*).


                                         Tra^`n Y' Va^n


(*) La^'y tu+` hai ca^u:
     "La.c hoa phi nhu+' tha`nh xua^n mo^.ng
      Tha(.ng thu?y ta`n so+n di. ti'ch du"
trong ba`i "Mo^. Xua^n Hoa`i Ca?m" cu?a DDa'i Thu'c Lua^n.
From: chaucer@nws32.EBay.Sun.COM (chaucer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Question about calling VN
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:37:50 GMT
Reply-To: chaucer@nws32.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: nws32.ebay.sun.com


Hi Tue^.

I think you should contact with your local AT&T operator for more information.

They are quite nice and ready to answer all your questions concerning calling to

Vietnam.  

A friend of mine over here , San Jose', California , used to call to Vietnam

said it is very cheap, around $20 / 15 mins call (compare to that of $7-8 / min

like before.)  His calls are to SaiGon .  I have no idea about any other towns.

Hope this would help...

Cheers,


Chaucer




In article YfN4ImW00hYkEcscdU@cs.cmu.edu, Minh.Tue.Vo@cs.cmu.edu () writes:
> Netters who have made telephone calls to VN, please help:
>   - Do you have a list of city codes?
>   - Does anyone know the city code of Ban Me Thuot (or Buon Ma Thuot)
>     up in Daklak?
>   - I have a 4-digit number of a phone in Ban Me Thuot; if no one can
>     supply the city code, how can I make the call through an operator?
>   - What time should I make the call to get discounts?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Vo~ Minh Tue^.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese