From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,sci.energy
Subject: Re: ZERO Nuclear impact (was: Is car pooling for real? etc)
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:46:36 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.


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rcb@druwa.ATT.COM (BakerRC) writes:

>In article <22JUL199208440502@zeus.tamu.edu>, slh5087@zeus.tamu.edu writes:
>> >     I also offer the ground 5200 feet beneath my house as a nuclear
>> >     material storage repository (subject to regulatory approval and a 
>> >     appropriate personal fee).  
>> 
>> AMEN!  I also offer my property for consideration for a nuclear material
>> storage repository, and I'll beat any offer Mr. (Dr.?) Bass makes.

Offer, hell!   I'd even PAY for a little Nukey!  Give me a couple of
megacuries of Sr-90 and call Cobb EMC to take down the power line.
This is not risk-taking.  Risk-taking is when I screw up enough
guts to go over to Air-Boingo and do the rubber band thing.
This is strictly economics and engineering.  

>I'm getting sick of this kind of post. 

You could quit reading them.

>I know it's just hypothetical to
>make a point but that's what many of you claim the "econazis" approach is
>to defend their position. Yes, there may be a safe place to put nuclear
>waste. But just ignoring the nuclear waste part:

No, we simply know what we're talking about and you don't.

>You want a large construction project ( a LARGE hole) to be done in your
>backyard? It would probably take up SEVERAL yards just for all the equipment.

>What about all the dirt that has to be hauled away. 

>Then when the hole is dug you get lots of big trucks pulling
>into your driveway all the time.

Hell man, when I designed a high efficiency, base loaded air conditioner
system for my first house I dug a "big hole in the ground", dumped in
about half a dump truck of styrofoam worms and plopped a 500 gal
septic tank in the middle, all to store hot or cold water (as needed
by the season).  I had to PAY to move energy for that one.  You betcha
your ass I'd "dig a big hole in the ground" to plop down a few megacuries
of heat source that would emit for a decade or so at NO COST.

>Or were you just intending to sell the land and move. I'm sure your 
>neighbors would appreciate it.

Just like a swimming pool.  To some, it kills the value of the house; to
others it makes it invaluable.  Neighbors?  None of their business.

>> His posting, which I have not contained here, has a theme of *relative*
>> risk regarding nuclear power, and is most appropriate.  Life is full of

>That's not how I read Mr. DeArmond's post. Several other people
>on his side have softened his opinion that he didn't mean ZERO.

I meant ZERO IMPACT.  I have a habit of saying exactly what I mean.
I did not address risk, though I'd place it vanishingly close to zero.


>Agreed. I'm still waitng for Mr. Armond's retraction or refutation
>of several posts I've seen refuting his claim.
>He could have said "less than the alternatives".

Haven't seen one worth commenting on yet.  A nuclear power program
operated under rules set by engineering criteria and not political 
considerations will have ZERO impact on the environment.  This will
include breeding, reprocessing, integrated generation and processing
sites and similar technologies.  According to a trade article I
read awhile back, if the world maximized the efficient use of 
uranium, e.g, didn't dump 97% of it in swimming pools after it is
removed from the reactor, there would be enough EXISTING, ALREADY 
MINED and refined U to last a century or more.  By then, perhaps
the econazis will have benefitted from gene splicing to correct
genetic defects and will have come up with some kind of "green sucker"
that will suck U out of seawater or something.

John
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