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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:58:49 CDT
From:         Titivillus <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      War, what is it good for?

> I have heard of someone named Cat or some such who did a metal version
> of "Flight of the Bumblebee."

> That feat alone would make her one of the fastest.

Yup, she does, and she plays guitar arrangements of several other warhorses--
two different versions of the theme from the first movement of Beethoven's 5th,
one at breakneck speed, the other optimized for aggressive moshing. It's silly.
Also it sounds to me like the tape has been sped up, like she's not really as
fast as she claims. I do recommend this record just for humor value-- the rant
in the liner notes is priceless, and Kat looks rather fetching in lingerie and
machine gun bandoliers :-)

Me, I'm waiting for the metal guitar rendition of Messiaen's "Dance of Fury for
the Seven Trumpets," the 6th movement of the _Quartet for the End of Time_.

     I'm waiting for it to go away, myself

> However, considering the fact that you can't get a decent tone off
> a guitar when you are playing 32nd and 64th notes...

Don't the real metalheads have a whole raft of boxes to take care of the tone?
I got to do a recording project with some friends who veer rather closer to
what America is listening to than I do, and they had a huge rack mount device
with a zillion buttons on it. The buttons weren't, but could have been, marked
with guitarists' names: The Tom Scholz Sound, The Brian May Sound, etc. I did
my rhythm parts in a Genesis-like chorus/doubling patch, and my screaming lead
in a kind of tinnier Alex Lifeson.

     I am not only not impressed with most guitar tone in rock music
     today, I am anti-impressed.

> If Jimi Hendrix knew what he started, he'd roll over in his grave.

I don't think Jimi had anything to do with the Cult of Multitudinous Notes.

     The sound of metal guitar started w/ Jimi, Tony Iommi and Jimmy
     Page. Jimi started playing the electronics as much as the wood,
     Tony had the wonderful dirge chords and Jimmy gave the crunch,
     as well as the early speed ("Rock&Roll"). Today, along with the
     speed, there is a reliance on the boxes to give an essentially
     unpleasant sound.

But of course Yoko doesn't have these rights to at least some of John's stuff,
i.e. she can't keep "Revolution" from being used to sell running shoes :-( I
don't remember quite which clause in the copyright law allows publishers to be
pains in the rear, but it's certainly operative here. (Maybe this is what truly
makes Michael Jackson _Dangerous_.)

     Actually, she had part of that deal. I read an interview with
     her saying she sold that song so she could subsidize her weirdness.

Dave
t9aa@sdsumu.bitnet
I'm standing next to the mountain
chopping down with the edge of my hand
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From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Black Cat: is she the fastest guitarist around ?

>Heard that Black Cat.. a woman who is supposedly a violin and
>guitar virtuoso and also plays speed metal versions of classical
>pieces by Beethoven and others.. in a speed metal band.. is the
>fastest guitarist around.  Is this true.?

>Thanks in advance.

>Bala.

Who cares who is the fastest?  I thought that music dealt with other,
more important things, like emotion and inventiveness.  Although
virtuosity is a plus, I don't think a musician should be judged for
how many notes one can cram in a quarter-note interval, but rather what
notes are chosen.  Hand a guitar to a computer with hands, and you'll
have the fastest player :)

Mike Masuda
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:57:03 EDT
From:         Walter Keller <WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Musical/Personal Id/Bluesmen/Violins

Sonia: I truly appreciate your posts - I've been almost terminally bummed
out the last few weeks - actually ever since the last band folded. No, I'm
not worried about being 40  - in fact I always give people shit when they
tell me it's too late to start learning an instrument. I always tell them,
"well do you really want to be sitting in the rocker on the porch one day
and keep mumbling to yourself 'yeah I think I coulda done sometin, maybe,
but who knows? just never got round to it...' " the old woulda, coulda,
shoulda stuff. I've felt that I've been cursed with a long, and unfortunately
so far rather painful life, and so I'LL BE DIDDLY DAMNDED IF I EVER GIVE
UP ON MUSIC ! , or on any other creative project, and that includes the
26 year old redheaded singer who's learning blues, and the other 26 year old
woman who would fog my glasses if I wore any.

Actually my ponytail is about 5 or 6 inches long now, but it's so thin those
ponytail holders keep slipping off - how discouraging. But check this out !
I just got 3 boxes of old memorabilia back from the west coast, and in them
was my 1st braided rawhide 2-tone hippie headband, and my handmade thunder-
bird wristband from circa 1970!! I love it - it was like x-mas.

Furthermore, I assert my right to play the blues, as I've been downright as
blue as you need to be. I also wnt through a hermit period when I only played
piano for myself, and some close friends. It's only now, after all these years
that I've actually formed 1 band, and am working on another, and starting to
get some local recognition as a player. The whole long haul is finally starting
 to seem worth it. But I still know I'm not as good as people might think I am,
 and I always try to work on my shortcomings. All I have to do is listen to
Bill Payne from Feat to feel insignificant. But I ain't giving up.
I know it's a cliche now, but really, music is all I really feel I have left,
and the only way I ever cry is when I hear music done beautifully, or 'just
right'. Pain and life don't cut that deep anymore. Hence my fascination with
the female voice of late.

Michelle - it's about a 2 hour plane ride, possibly with a wonderful stopover
in Pittsburgh. But really, listen to old Fairport Convention if you can and
find "Come all you roving minstrels", and also the old It's a Beautiful Day
stuff. All that stuff fogs my glasses.

I'm sorry I rambled so much, but I think I needed it - and now to work...

  "it's so easy to slip, it's so easy to fall...
   let your memory drift into nothing at all
   all the love that you missed, all the people that you can't recall...
   do they really exist at all, all, all ? ...

   well I don't want to dream forever, the shadow of you leaving me...
   so I light another cigarette, and try - to remember to forget....

   it's so easy to slip.............


                                                       ... walt ...
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:24:00 CDT
From:         Just say no to F*m*ly V*l**s <CV01@SWTEXAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Searching for Sharrock

>Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:40:00 EST
>From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
>Subject:      The Quest For Sharrock
>
>
>So, Black Jacques Sharrock, tell me, is his stuff easy to pick up in Texas?
>If so, that's cool, I'll be in Texas (San Antonio more specifically) at the
>end of next month. Is there any chain of stores, in particular, I should
>check out?

   Well, Lee mentioned finding his stuff in Sound Warehouses, but I don't know
(cause I don't shop there anymore).  I don't recall seeing his stuff there --
maybe the Houston ones have a better selection than the stores in Austin.  I
don't know San Antone well enough to recommend individual shops, but the local
(Austin) Tower (almost) always has _STR_, _Faith Moves_, _Ask The Ages_ and
_Highlife_ in stock.  Also, if you can manage to get to Austin, a local indie
shop (Waterloo) seems to always have _STR_ in stock.  If worse comes to worse,
let me know, and I'll pick up a copy and mail it to you.
   BTW, I don't recommend _Highlife_ particularly.  It has a few great moments,
but overall it doesn't measure up to his other recordings.  It's more "pop",
and features a lot of cheesy synth work.


>Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:06:58 GMT
>From:         Larry Spence <larry@CS.COM>
>Subject:      Re: The Quest For Sharrock
>
>
>
>>>that must have every album ever made since
>>the beginning of time in it, but (you guessed it) _Seize The Rainbow_. He
>>told me that album was probably out of print.
>
>I don't know if it's ever been in print in the US.  My CD is a German disc
>on Enemy Records, catalog # 88561-8205-2.  You might be able to get a store
>that carries imports to order it for you (warning: $18-22).  More and more
>of the import Enemy CDs are getting released in the US, so you might want
>to wait a bit.  I lucked out and found a used copy for $9.

   I don't understand this.  I picked up my copy for slightly above normal
price ($15) at the local indie shop in March.  Then everyone I talk to says
that it's not available except at full import price.  I wonder if my store
just screwed up on the pricing.  I'll have to check to see what they are
currently charging for it.

   This same store certainly *did* charge import rates for two other Enemy
things they got -- _The Noise of Trouble_, and a _Greatest Hits (ahem) Live_
CD from Last Exit.  Each of those set me back +$20.


>Date:          Wed, 09 Sep 92 08:06:35 CDT
>From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
>Subject:      Spaced Out
>
>
>
>  [hilarious messages to other inhabitants of the galaxy deleted]
>
>-Scott "I Bet Chuckrateez Would Send Sharrock Licks" Hammer

   I wouldn't have to do that Scott -- if these are intelligent life-forms,
then they already listen to Sonny.  ;*)


      bye,
      cmv ("chuckrateez")
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:55:56 CDT
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From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      GOSPEL/QUARTET

 My three fave groups in this category???
 the Cathedral Quartet
 Gold City
 Perfect Heart
 ------
 Bill and Gloria Gaither still write for the Cathedrals!!!
 If the Gaithers can't write music, somethin' is wrong!!!
 Musical value exists in Gospel/Quartet styles.
 Just gotta LISTEN for it.
 "G"

 * <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:12:46 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Tubes

A few weeks ago we had a great discussion on tubes vs trans. Well this
weekend i got incredible deals on three fender amps, naturally i bought
all of em. I went to get tubes my god, they cost more than the amps
i needed a 6v6 and a 5y3 and all i could find was a 6v6 and it's a
sovtek made in the ussr, i've used them b4 and they're good but i didn't
like the price. I know i could have mail-ordered cheaper but i'm too
impatient, but i'll always play tube amps and pay the cost.
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 10:59:02 CDT
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: need train song recommendations
              5 Sep 1992 01:49:59 GMT from <gjm11@CUS.CAM.AC.UK>

On Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:49:59 GMT G.J. McCaughan said:
>Almost certainly not suitable:
>  "Different Trains", by Steve Reich.
>--

Also not suitable "Casey Jones" by the Dead.  Though Tipper Gore, according to
friends listens to Dead CDs in her car.  Perhaps that's why she always has that
 big shit-eating grin on her face?  "You better watch your speed..." **Memories
**

Renato
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:21:27 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blue reviews/sensible shoes
              Bachelder" at Sep 11, 92 9:03 am

>
> (why do I feel kind of shy and nervous?), as I've been a lurker for the last
> week or so.  My name's not Carol, but I wear sensible shoes - I have to;
> I'm a librarian.
>
The OTHER Carol got warned about the hot-to-trot Carol, so YOU must be warned
that that are AT LEAST two other librarians on the list that I know about and
they are depraved, haunted, maniac, paranoid, hairy, drooling, debonair
gentlemen with access to LOTS of reference tools.  Don't let this make you
nervous though.

Sonia
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:18:49 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Lite Classics

Tim Johnson <ST402711%BROWNVM.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU> sez:

>  "So the point, big guy, was that people who listen to fake classical
>music are doing it for extra musical reasons - not that people who listen
>to classical are doing it for extra musical reasons."

OK, apologies for misunderstanding.  That sure isn't what I got from
your original, and I'm glad to see the clarification.

Incidentally, I disagree.  I find it difficult to classify the
motives of every single attender of a classic lite concert, buyer
of the record, etc.  I find it hard to separate the willful poseurs
from the genuinely and innocently musically ignorant.

But suppose that you're right about those folks.  What if just one of
them finds out that (s)he likes classical music (you know, finds
something in it that's more fulfilling than his/her usual pop radio diet)?

Besides, I can't help thinking that Yo Yo Ma and Bobby McFerrin had
a good time doing it, and music made by people who are having a good
time is often fun to listen to.

Would I go myself?  No.  Would I attempt to characterize others who
go?  Likewise, no.  Do I think that "classic lite" is a Good Thing or
a Bad Thing?  Neither, but it has some potential for good.

+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen        |            "IT FOUND ME!"            |
| crispen@foxy.boeing.com       |      Campus Crusade for Cthulhu      |
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:37:57 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Covers

How about something with that Bo Diddley shuffle beat?

Who Do You Love?
On the Road Again (the Tom Rush song -- NOT Willie Nelson)
Oh, Boy (Seriously under covered Buddy Holley)

Not Fade Away is also great, but over done.

You get the idea.

-Scott "Bop, Bop . . . Bop, Bop" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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From: acclis@hofstra.bitnet (PSI-HAWK MASTER OF THE MIND AND THE SOUL.)
Subject: Hello.

Hello...........?
   Is anyone receiving this?

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From: bulm2533@hgc.edu (steven bulmer)
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Subject: Re: need train song recommendations
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:00:22 GMT
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center

DIdn't someone just do this several months back?  If he/she
is lurking, maybe their compilation could be posted.

Anyways my contributions include:

Atcheson Topeka and the Santa Fe
Chatanooga Choo Choo
Rock Island Rocket

-Steve B
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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      RE: soybean curd kirk
              Gelinas" at Sep 9, 92 3:05 pm

>  Not likely to do Take Me
> to the River again though.
>
Fine with me, but in tribute to that one let's say the names of AL GREEN and
also BUDDY MILES... (is that Al's song BTW?)

Rahsaan-- I've got a great album at home but I've got to take a look at it to
remember what it's called.  (do the rest of you bring your collections to work
with you on microfiche, other than mhb with his frightening talmudic memory)

Cthulhu -- Rev. Bob Bob, please don't tell me that's a Zappa lyric.

Shaggs (after this NO MORE even if you beg me):

"The Shaggs love you and love to perform for you.  You may love their music or
you may not, but whatever you feel, at least you know you can listen to artists
who are real.  They will not change their music or style to meet the whims of a
frustrated world.  You should appreciate this because you know they are pure
what more can you ask?"
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:09:17 EDT
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From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Garcia's health

Stolen from the Deadhead list.  Reprinted without permission:

>From the WELL today....
>
>Q:     Hi, this is Gary Lambert, your Grateful Dead Hour correspondent
>       on the Jerry Garcia front. I have an informed source here with
>       me: Phil Lesh.  Phil, a lot of people have been wondering what's
>       going on, what the band's plans are, and most important, how
>       Jerry's health is.
>
>Lesh:  Jerry's health is improving radically, I would say.  He semms to
>       have lost a lot of weight, and he's moving around very well.  He
>       looks good to me.
>
>       I saw him this morning when our kids started their first day of
>       school.
>
>       On the other hand, we aren't planning to go back to work before
>       December.  He's going to have a long, slow recovery back to health,
>       I think.  But we don't want to push it.
>
>Q:     Without nailing down any dates, there is at least a certain amount
>       of confidence that there will be some Grateful Dead activity, if
>       not late this year, early next?
>
>Lesh:  I would say you can bet on that.
>
>Q:     How have you been spending your autumn vacation, Phil?
>
>Lesh:  I have been cammping in the mountains and swimming with my kids,
>       getting them ready to go back to school, and all that kind of
>       good stuff.
>
>(Recorded at Truth and Fun studios 9/10/92 11:15 am)
>

Now You Know.

-Scott "Glad to Hear This" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:31:23 CDT
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: ANNOUNCEMENT

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:33:47 MDT It's not what you know, it's what you think you
>Renato said:
>
>> For all you music lovers who might be in the Chicagoland area during
>September
>>24-October 4, you might wish to check out the MAMMOTH MUSIC & RECORD MART.
>Jus
>>t received the announcement today. Quote: "Sale of over 400,000 new and used
>re
>>cords, cd's, audio and video tapes, sheet music, musical instruments, and
>audio
>> and video equipment." Proceeds benefit the Les Turner ALS Foundation (Lou
>Gehr
>>ig's Disease).  Music Mart Hotline: 708-674-MART. Address: Les Turner ALS
>Found
>>ation, 3325 Main St., Skokie, Illinois 60076.
>
>Oh sure.... I'll miss this by one lousy week!  Piss me off...
>
>One other thing?  Why is everyone so bitchy today??!!  Is it not the Friday
>before a long weekend, or am I just dreaming here?
>
>Oh yeah... and one more thing... I missed you, EdD...
>
>Lets all just get laid...
>
>Luv,
>Libby Doe

Cannot argue with Libby Doe's last suggestion. To quote the immortal Sly (and I
 hope correctly); "you don't have to die before you live!"  Possibly related to
 the latter, heard a killer cut today from the local band Bad Examples entitled
 "Not dead yet."  Anyone else hear this?

Renato

Personal to Libby: Chicago awaits you.
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From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Not Dead Yet

>Cannot argue with Libby Doe's last suggestion.To quote the immortal Sly (and I
>hope correctly); "you don't have to die before you live!"  Possibly related to
>the latter, heard a killer cut today from the local band Bad Examples entitled
>"Not dead yet."  Anyone else hear this?

The Bad Examples played here (Brookings South Dakota) last monday as
the "welcome back to school" band. Knowing the guy who books the
shows this year, I am glad we didn't get Billy Ray Cyrus B). While
I was pumped on "Not Dead Yet," my fave rave song of the set was
"Smiles like Richard Nixon."

>Renato

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
... and walks like Bridget Bardot.
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From:         CSM Julian Sominka <jsominka@CSM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Zorn & Glass ???

I was told recently of a newspaper article mentioning
that John Zorn has been working with Philip Glass on
some new material.

Can anyone verify this as being true!!??

Julian
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