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From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Black Sabbath Concert Review (LONG!) 3/3
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 00:46:38 GMT

In article <2142.1076.uupcb@satalink.com> joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler) writes:
>
>   Ronnie Dio also really enjoyed the gig.   He gave a small speech at the
>   beginning of the gig about Philadelphia.   It went something like this.
>   "Turn on the lights here.   I know where we are.   My favorite place on the
>   face of the earth.  Philadelphia, PA".   Well, most bands say things like
>   this, and it's usally crap, just to gain a reaction from the audience.
>   However, with Dio, it's a different story.   With Dio the band, a tour
>   either started or ended in Philly.   Both of Dio's commercially available
>   concerts were filmed in Philly, and Dio hit here at least twice on every
>   tour he played.   He really does love this town.     Anyway, Dio's vocals

I can verify this... :-) I have some live tapes of Dio's Philadelphia
gigs and Ronnie always says just something like you quoted above. He
always says that 'you're the best audience we've ever seen' but
Philadelphia is something different - I don't know why.

>   pulled 'em off really well.   One thing though.   I would have liked to hear
>   Sabbath do some "Tyr" songs, as those are really suited to his voice,
>   especially "Anno Mundi".    Dio was having a lot of fun at the gig, and is

I'm personally happy that they didn't play any songs from Born
Again-TYR... There were some good tracks on Headless Cross but the
rest of non Dio / non Ozzy Sabbath is not the same quality.

>   There was no mention of Geoff Nichols, but he had to have been there.
>   There were some keyboards littered through the show, but we didn't see him,
>   and no one mentioned him.    This annoys me, as Geoff is the longest serving
>   member of Black Sabbath other than Tony Iommi.   Geoff's been there since
>   right before the recording of Heaven & Hell.   :(

This annoys me too, but somehow keyboard player wouldn't fit in
Sabbath 'picture' in my mind. Sabbath is 4-piece band and the
keyboardist is there somewhere (just like Dio '83-'84, Ronnie himself said
just the same in one interview:-). 
>
>5) Summary:
>
>   Overall, a FUCKING GREAT concert.    One of the best I've seen before, and
>   easily the best Sabbath show I've seen, and I've now seen Sabbath 4 times.

It's great to hear that Sabbath is still great on stage too! I'm
really waiting for the Edinburgh gig in September - Sabbath was
scheduled to play here in Finland but the gig got cancelled
(presumably the promoter screwed up something). :-( :-( :-(. I only
hope that they'll come some other time here.

The best concert I've ever seen was Dio's gig here in Finland in '87,
lets see if this beats it... I'll post review of my concert experience
after Sep. 7th when I'll get back from UK.

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
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From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Music
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:56:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.124450.28356@walter.cray.com> bdavis@staccato.cray.com (Brent G Davis) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug13.145354.22805@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>> Gee. Now that we have yelled at each other and beat this subject into the ground
>> is it possible that we could get back to discussing MUSIC?
>> Just wondering...
>> 
>> 				--Judex--
>
>What a relief.  For a moment I thought that our newsfeeder had gotten
>confused and substituted this group (alt.rock-n-roll.metal) with posts
>from alt.bash.axl.rose.n.gnr.
>
>Seriously, it may be time to create alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr.  All the
>recent bandwidth certainly merits its creation.
>
>
>Brent
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Oh no! More reason to talk about GNR! AUUUGHH! Just kidding! :-)

Phil

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From: Donald Becker <marilion@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: GnR making more money from fools...
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:05:16 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:

> In article <1992Aug3.220551.1@pomona.claremont.edu> cblanc@pomona.claremont.e
> >
> >Dude, you're still not catching on - IF axl doesn't want to be thought of as
> >racistg, he should yank the song.  IF he doesn't care, then fuck him.
> 
> Being thought of as a racist (by you) and BEING a racist are two different
> things. Consider the chance that Axl isn't a racist and if you think he is.
> In this case, fuck YOU. (From Axl's standpoint).
 
Of course Axl isn't a racist! Why, EVERYONE calls black people niggers,
especially non-racists like Axl.
 
Actually, you've got to applaud Axl's peace-making attempts with the black 
people. On any given night, his favorite group could be Public Enemy,
Naughty By Nature, N.W.A., or any black rap group. 
 
Axl may or may not be a racist, but one thing's for sure: He's a hypocrite.
 
--Don
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tuesday, 18 Aug 1992 10:52:11 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: GNR
 <i2PoPB2w164w@jaflrn.UUCP>

I dont know where you saw Metallica but when I saw them they
played 2 and a half hours tops, and part of this time was
spent woth James playing drums.  Im glad I didn't pay
to see this show or I would have been pissed.  James
playing drums???????

                     Doc Holiday
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: KISS: I Just Wanna, Domino
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:54:35 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

>From: 9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
>
>Can anyone give me any information on what the film clips for Kiss's two new
>songs 'I Just Wanna' and 'Domino' are like.

I haven't seen "I Just Wanna" yet, but "Domino" features shots of Gene
driving and old convertible around L.A., eating fast food, and filling
up the car, interspersed with shots of the rest of the band
performing.  It's different, anyway.

You might be interested in joining KISSARMY, the KISS mailing list
that I run. To subscribe, send the following command in the body of a
message to LISTSERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

SUBSCRIBE KISSARMY "Your real name"

>Another thing, I saw a poster of the band, and it looked as if Paul, and Eric
>had goaty beards aswell as Gene, what is the story here? Of course Bruce was
>looking as cool as ever!!
>
Only Gene has the goatee, unless Paul and Eric grew them in the last
week....

Hunter
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From: 9018767a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: KISS: I Just Wanna, Domino
Date: 23 Aug 92 10:43:58 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

> Am I the only one who has noticed that "Unholy" is a slowed down version of
> "Enter Sandman" <at least the main riff>?
> 
> 				--Judex--

Oh pleeassee!!  Let's not get carried away with this rip-off theme.  If you're
going to call "Unholy" a rip-off of "Enter Sandman", then you've got to admit 
that "Enter Sandman" is a blatant rip-off of "Unchain the Night" by Dokken
and that "Metal Militia" definitely sounds like a sped up version of "Sound
of Music", (Poppins, circa '58).  I'm sure there's a couple of similar notes
in there somewhere.

By the way, a bit of trivia, the following lines from "Spit"
      I've got no manners and I'm not too clean
      But I know what I like if you know what I mean
are out of a song Gene sang in the movie "Never Too Young To Die" which
also starred John Stamos and Vanity.  In the movie, Gene plays an 
Hermaphrodite.  The song in the movie is called "It takes a man like me to
be a woman like me"!!!

And before you all reply to me, yes I do realise that the chorus to "Spit"
is a rip-off of "Whole Lotta Love" by Led Zep, and that there is a line ripped
off from Spinal Tap and that Bruce rips off the Yank national anthem in the 
lead solo and that Gene's new image is a rip-off of Rosanne Barr.........

Scotti Pharlap Elvis Ringo Madonna Carrisma
From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re:  Body Count
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:11:23 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

I agree with the guy who's *not* impressed with the Body Count album--
I was horribly disappointed when I rushed out to get it the day it
went on sale (lesson to be learned here?....).

The songs I found most insipid are:  Body Count's in The House (or whatever
it's called), KKK Bitch, Cop Killer and Evil Dick.  I agree with your
point that these songs contain no redeeming social value from someone
who is supposedly on the "cutting edge of political correctness...".

I don't think, however, that Ice-T should be persecuted for Cop Killer...
no one fucked with Eric Clapton for having a huge hit with Marley's
"I Shot the Sheriff", did they?  No.

However, Ice-T, and contemporary black artists in general (and I'm 1/4
black, and am not racist) get away with lyrical murder that whites
would not get away with.  Look at the furor over Tons O'Poses' "One in
a Million" (even the furor here on the net...geez; I got in a flame
war with people all over the world on that one).  Now, Ice-baby does a
song called KKK Bitch, talking about how cool it is to fuck white
chicks (okay, I'll give him that one  ;-)  ).  But lyrics referring
to whites such as:

   "Their dicks are too little and they just can't fuck..."

which he got away with, are no worse than, hypothetically (regarding blacks):

   "Their lips are too big and they just can't stay employed..."

which NO ONE, at least outside of South Africa, would EVER get away with!
Not to mention "One in a Million", which I refuse to rekindle that ugly
war by defending.  And, neither example really has a place in songs,
unless the artist is so hateful s/he insists on including it.  

Anyway, they're pretty good live as I've seen 'em twice (with Ice-T rap
show, and at last year's Lollapalooza), and I also like his rap, mostly
for the beats and loops, though.  But I think I'll stay away from any
new BC CD's until I hear 'em first!!!

Just my politically confused, self-contradictory $.02...

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From: bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG)
Subject: GnR's One in a Million
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:35:00 GMT

As far as I can recall, the last time I looked up the word nigger it 
mentioned as the definition "An ignorant person".  Axl himself 
apologized and defended the song, and many people, including blacks, 
understood that the remark in the song was to bash ignorant people, 
not *all* black people just those and other races that are ignorant.

Greg
From: c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica/Faith No More tour dates
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:54:43 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, N.J.  07764

In article <1992Aug20.164656.11304@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>
>Another thing:  Why is it people on the net can only like one band?  IMO,
>they both kick ass.
>

IMHO, Metallica KICKS ASS while Axl KISSES ASS.  With the exception of
Slash, the whole band is packaged to sell- cheap!  G 'N R was good a few
years ago before they became mega-superstars and sold out to everything
and everyone.  Axl leads the pack in finding new ways to get himself in
the press pages daily. Is this a heavy metal rock group, or an ego trip?

BTW, I also like Van Halen, N.I.N., Nirvana, R.H.C.P.,R.E.M., Concrete
Blonde, MegaDeth, Pink Floyd, etc. etc. etc.



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Beer Lover By Choice                       Computer User By Fortune
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR)
Subject: Replacement for James?
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:33:53 GMT


So are they really going to go through with it?  That's pretty wild.  The 
guys that were mentioned in another post that were auditioning sounded
pretty cool.  I'd throw my vote in for the Faith No More guitarist 
(Jim Martin? or something like that?).  He's got that James pose, that
big chunky rhythm and sound and that crazy look.  

A show without James playing guitar would be kind of weak in my opinion.
Their songs are driven by his rhythm playing, and those power chords!.
I don't see James standing stationary without a guitar in his hands either.
But I guess its better than nothing.  Maybe they should hire 2 guys to
play his parts?


							- Don
From: c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Day on the Green 2
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:32:39 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, N.J.  07764

In article <1992Aug17.234710.25844@csusac.csus.edu> garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary) writes:
>
>	Well I guess the expected has happened (the concert has been
>postponed). What makes me mad is that James got burnt at least a week ago
>(mayhappes longer) why did they wait until 4 days before the concert to
>cancel?  If Axl wasn't such a wimp they might have had someone play for
>James but I'm sure that they figured that unless Axl has a good long
>rest his voice would give out again.  Does anyone know if his harroin
>use  could be the cause, or is it just his buttheadness?
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>| She told me to come,      |  Judge not lest ye  |  Sometimes all of  |
>| but I was already there!  |  be judged yourself.|  our thoughts are  |
>|             -- AC/DC      |        -- Metallica |  misgiven.-Led Zep.|

Yeah, I don't know if his heroine use screwed things up, but-

I'm sure James doesn't want anybody to really play in his place...
I think Axhole's off the hook for this one.  Getting burned by
stage pyro's is no fun.

As for your .sig, is this right?  AC/DC- "You Shook Me all Night Long"
Metallica- "Holier Than Thou"  Led Zep. "Stairway To Heaven"

..and, now:  "No one but me can save myself, but it's too late..."

:wq

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From: garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary)
Subject: Re: Replacement for James 
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 04:51:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.144417.1881@sfu.ca> khopkins@fraser.sfu.ca (Kory "The Great One" Hopkins) writes:
>I say that Metallica should get
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>DAVE MUSTAINE!!!!!! to replace James until he has healed!!!

 I'm sure Dave would have something to say about that if James and Lars
didn't. :)  How about Marty Friedman ?

Tommy Lee for president (Heather would make a bitchn' first lady).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
| She told me to come,      |  Judge not lest ye  |  Sometimes all of  |
| but I was already there!  |  be judged yourself.|  our thoughts are  |
|             -- AC/DC      |        -- Metallica |  misgiven.-Led Zep.|
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From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: "Trapped Under Ice"
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:04:27 GMT

I never once thought of Dante and "Inferno" in connection to "Trapped Under Ice"
, but it is an interesting thought. I always thought it was about someone who
had been cryogenically frozen, in hopes of being revived someday. 
It also reminded me of the ending of an old Dracula film, where Drac is
trapped under ice, at the end of the film. But I think the Cryogenic thing
is correct...

					--Judex--
From: bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Sick Comment on The Accident
Date: 11 Aug 92 17:29:47 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal

In article <1992Aug11.123126.13859@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.083957.14792@sfu.ca> selent@fraser.sfu.ca (Frank S.) writes:
>>In article <INTECOOP.92Aug10162232@crchh637.na> intecoop@crchh637.na (Ray Marino) writes:
>>>At least they weren't playing "Blackened" when James got burned.

>>>- John Prior
>>>(ABSOLUTELY NOT RAY MARINO)

>>Maybe it was _Jump in the Fire_

>Or maybe "Fight Fire With Fire."

"Fade To Black" was pretty appropriate.

>>I thought they were not playing cities that start with
>>M.

>Just 'cause GNR doesn't want to, does it mean Metallica can't?

The guy who sings for that band which comes after Metallica has got a 
psychic who told him not to play in cities which start with 'M', what
a doofus.

On this stadium tour, Metallica's bound to the other band.  When the 
other band cancelled all of last week's shows Metallica were stuck. 
Lars came out here early in the week to hang out and was spotted
at a local metal joint.

A local video channel said yesterday that Metallica was confirmed 
to be coming back to Montreal to finish their show!!!  There's no
date yet, but its sometime in October.  What great guys, my faith 
in them has been rewarded.  It remains to be seen where they'll
play and if we'll have to buy another ticket though.

It was also reported James suffered 1st degree burns to his arm,
and 2nd degree burns to his hands.  He didn't get it in the face
or anything.  The doctors told him he won't be able to play for
2 to 4 weeks.

                                              - Don
From: garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Day on the Green 2
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:47:10 GMT
Followup-To: garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu
Organization: California State University, Sacramento


	Well I guess the expected has happened (the concert has been
postponed). What makes me mad is that James got burnt at least a week ago
(mayhappes longer) why did they wait until 4 days before the concert to
cancel?  If Axl wasn't such a wimp they might have had someone play for
James but I'm sure that they figured that unless Axl has a good long
rest his voice would give out again.  Does anyone know if his harroin
use  could be the cause, or is it just his buttheadness?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
| She told me to come,      |  Judge not lest ye  |  Sometimes all of  |
| but I was already there!  |  be judged yourself.|  our thoughts are  |
|             -- AC/DC      |        -- Metallica |  misgiven.-Led Zep.|
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Replacement for James 
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:25:02 PDT

In article <1992Aug15.045149.10669@csusac.csus.edu>, garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary) writes:
> In article <1992Aug14.144417.1881@sfu.ca> khopkins@fraser.sfu.ca (Kory "The Great One" Hopkins) writes:
>>I say that Metallica should get
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>DAVE MUSTAINE!!!!!! to replace James until he has healed!!!
> 
>  I'm sure Dave would have something to say about that if James and Lars
> didn't. :)  How about Marty Friedman ?
> 
> Tommy Lee for president (Heather would make a bitchn' first lady).
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | She told me to come,      |  Judge not lest ye  |  Sometimes all of  |
> | but I was already there!  |  be judged yourself.|  our thoughts are  |
> |             -- AC/DC      |        -- Metallica |  misgiven.-Led Zep.|

	Has anyone heard Friedman's solo stuff?  What does it SOUND like?  I'm
curious because I was impressed by his work on his first album with Megadeth...
From: louisp@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Mike Perez)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Concert info
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:02:10 GMT

Okay, here's the deal straight from our local metal station here in L.A.
(Any and all mistakes are the fault of KNAC, not me!)

James is still screwed up from the Seattle show, so they have chosen John
Marshall from Metal Church to temporarily play his guitar parts until he can
do it for himself.  Currently, the tour has been scheduled to restart on Aug.
25 in Phoenix, AZ and from there will take a tour of the South (New Mexico,
Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and other such scheduled states) and from there it
will go to L.A. and other shows.  There was no mention of the make-up show in
Seattle, so sorry people up there, you'll have to wait too!!

I don't know what the prognosis on James is, so the Marshall replacement thing
may not even occur, but 2nd and 3rd degree burns don't heal that quickly, so
we'll all just have to wait and see what happens...

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