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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Transmitting 50-178 & 300-512?
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:05:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.181740.2349@sj.ate.slb.com> jones@sj.ate.slb.com (Clark Jones) writes:
>Willie Smith (wpns@miki.pictel.com) wrote:
>: Can you even build a PLL that works over more than an octave without
>: resorting to esoteric tricks that are unlikely to be found in
>: commercially available radios?
>
>BTW, there are several commercially available recievers that use PLLs for
>the LO and cover from ~0.1MHz to ~30MHz.  That's >8 octaves...

Yes, but those are itty bitty octaves down so close to DC, smaller than
a single band at UHF. :-)

In fact, I think that's how many of them work, they generate a suboctave
span oscillator at UHF and downconvert it to near DC where it spans many of
the itty bitty octaves. At least that's how IFR does it in their spectrum
analysers.

Gary
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From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Burglars are brighter than you might think!
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:24:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <8585@lib.tmc.edu>, jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
|> with... There are times I wish my computers were the same way. (Actually, one
|> of them is, too: my Unix box is about 150 pounds.)

I guess that means my Apollo and 2 PDP-11's are safe!!   :-)

bill  KB3YV

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From: jhobson@SU19F.harris-atd.com (Harv Hobson)
Subject: Hardy Boys (was:Ham Radio in Media (was: Marge Simp...))
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:02:16 GMT
Reply-To: jhobson@SU19F.ess.harris.com (Harv Hobson)
Organization: Harris Aerospace, HARRIS Corp. Melbourne, Fl.

In article <9301261505.AA16119@ucsd.edu> William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM writes:
>>Don't forget the sitcom ALF.  Willie was a radio amateur and that
>>factored into the plot of many episodes.
>
>believe it was shown that it was some cross between CB and Amateur.   This 
>differs from the Simpsons references that are to the point.

My son reads all kinds of books including Hardy Boys.  When he was through
with it, I read _The Shortwave Mystery_.  It has some partly realistic
ham radio activity in the plot.  I was going to lookup the call signs used to
see if they belong to any "real" hams - - Wait!! I didn't mean that the way
it sounded!!! What I wonder is: Are the call signs used in the book
currently assigned to someones station?

Now, if I could just get my son interested in reading ham radio books, ...

Harv
WB4NPL
From: buaas@trout.nosc.mil (Robert A. Buaas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for IFR FM/AM-1200S
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:03:09 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Do you know of anyone wanting to sell an IFR FM/AM-1200S, in good condition?
Email (buaas@nosc.mil) or Phone (714/968-0070), leave msg if I'm out!!
There's nothing like having good equipment to maintain repeaters..

Thanks in advance.  Bob/K6KGS
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Posting Private Mail (Was: Re: Real hams?)
Organization: Small Business Systems, Incorporated, Smithfield, RI 02917
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:48:52 GMT

swalton@mail.boi.hp.com (Sean_Walton; 85U524; x3821) writes:

>Also, if anyone wants to talk on these BSSs should use their own
>handle not hide behind "Anomaly System Administration  <netmail!root".

Well, Sean, I guess you're new to the net.

If you were a net.veteran, you would have noticed that the message posted
by our friend Kebbin was in fact a private e-mail message which I had sent
to him.

Now, I *could* flame Kebbin for posting private e-mail, but that's okay,
because I'm sure everyone else pretty much thinks of him as low-life scum
for doing it anyway (not to mention that I could care less, since I stand
by each word I said.)

However, there are two things to remember:

	1. Private e-mail may or may not be sent from the same account
	   which I post to USENET with.

	2. You're only seeing one side of the posting. What you're not
	   seeing are the particularly vulgar messages which Kebbin is
	   in fact sending to other people on this end. And, naturally,
	   its always easy to condemn based upon a single-sided view.

MD
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe)
Subject: Yaesu distributor/rep?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:31:38 GMT


I need to buy a half-dozen (possibly more) Yaesu
YH-1 headsets.  The local ham store doesn't stock
that many, and why pay retail anyway?  Directory
assistance says there's no Yaesu listed in the 
408 area code.  Where are they?  Thanks.
-- 
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692.
Thomas David Kehoe          kehoe@netcom.com         (408) 354-5926
From: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Consider this about roof mounted mobile antennas...
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:49:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

jmcoving@unccsun.uncc.edu (John Covington WN4BBJ) writes:
>...  But make sure you use an NMO mount so it will be
>compatible!  Larson, and probably others, have mounts which are not
>NMO-compatible; and if you use one of those mounts you will be stuck.

But the regular Larsen mount fits in a 5/8" hole, whereas the NMO goes
into a 3/4" hole.  So if you blew it and used the regular Larsen mount,
you can always enlarge the hole and put an NMO into it.

Of course, you'll have to buy the NMO mount, and reconnect the coax to
it.  Better to do it right the first time.

Motorola uses a special NMO with super-low-loss Teflon/silver coax for
their 900 MHz radios.  If you're going to be running 450 MHz in the car,
you might well invest it one of those instead of the plain coax model
that the typical ham store carries.  Your local two-way shop will probably
have some in stock.  They'll even do the install for you if you like.
	- Brian
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Causes Cancer
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:56:55 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <44051@zygot.ati.com> john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) writes:
>I swear if I hear about one more thing that "causes cancer"...

Of course such stories never balance cancer risks the far more 
likely risks, such as:

   1>  Having an accident due to the distraction of operating a base/mobile, 
       HT, or cellular phone.

   2>  Outright electric shock.

 

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman 			 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wpns@miki.pictel.com (Willie Smith)
Subject: Re: HTs at Disneyland
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:09:22 GMT

In article <93020.224152MORRISON@UCF1VM.BITNET> Aaron Morrison <MORRISON@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>I don't work (or have ever worked) for the Walt Disney Company (or
>companies) -- but I think it might be nice to one of these days.

I sent my resume to WED Enterprises in California a number of years
back, and only got a 'thanks for your resume' letter in response.
They are the folks who do all the tech stuff for the Disney resorts,
what a place to work that would be, eh?
-- 
Willie Smith    wpns@pictel.com    N1JBJ@amsat.org     "I'll make
Beelyuns and Beelyuns from the book contract and the TV show with
government funding for looking for the nothing in the void where The
Bang caused the hole in the middle of it all" Frank Hayes - Cosmos.
From: davidc@hplsla.hp.com (David Cook)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:35:07 GMT
Subject: Transmit Power with Nicads vs. Alkaline
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

I recently purchased a Standard C168A 2 meter HT and according to the
specifications in the operating manual it transmits at 2.8 watts with
the 7.2 volt nicad battery that is shipped with it. I also purchased
the dry cell battery case which holds 5 AA's. 5 alkaline batteries
would supply 7.5 volts and yet the specifications say that when using
the dry cell case output power is only 1 watt. What gives here? Is 
this an error or are nicad's really able to supply that much more
current than alkaline batteries?

BTW these rated levels are with the HT in high power mode.

Thanks in advance for your replies and comments.

Dave, KB7QCL

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com (Chris Terwilliger)
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes_, Now CW and reality
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Motorola
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:19:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.181953.25999@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>,
jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) wrote:
> 
> You know if you read the posts here you would get the impression that the
> CW portions of the various bands were deviod of any activity at all.

I second that.  I went ahead and learned the code and upgraded three weeks
ago.  After my first CW QSO on 40 meters, I was hooked.  Every time I call
CQ, I get an immediate response.  I would suggest that most of those who
predict and hope for the demise of CW have never used it...

* Chris Terwilliger, KB7PPT/AA             rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com *
* Motorola                        "And now, the sequence of events, *
* 2100 E. Elliot Rd. EL374         in no particular order."         *
* Tempe, AZ  85284                                     - Dan Rather *
From: miles@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Miles Abernathy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Small Color Camera Wanted-Defects OK, Suggestions Requested
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:41:23 GMT
Organization: University of Texas
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
X-XXMessage-ID: <A7847449C5029F2B@mac33.util.utexas.edu>
X-XXDate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:39:53 GMT

I am looking for a very small, lightweight  color TV camera, to send up
suspended from a kite. I know that low-cost high-quality midget b&w
cameras are readily available ($204.50, tel. 800-221-2240, as per January
73 magazine), but am hoping to find a color one.

I don!t mind if it has defects, like a burned spot or two. Don!t need a
camcorder, just a camera.

Does anyone know where to find such a device? Any ideas on how to find
units rejected by the manufacturer due to a bad pixel or two?
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  \/    tel. (512) 471-6521           =
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From: pdu@unixa.nerc-barry.ac.UK (Paul Jimbo Duncan GW7KES)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:33:17 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Hi,
has nyone had any luch at driving PC serial ports at 45 or 50 baud. If not
has anyone had any luck at using software to drive a PC parallel port as a 
TTL serial port at the baud rates (it should certainly be possible). A friend
of mine has bought a RTTY demodulator kit, and a TTL to RS-232 level converter
kit, but the PC doesn't seem to want to handle the slow baud rates required.
RTTY to ASCII conversion is handled by the use of a lookup table take from a
book on Amateur Radio Computing.

Thanks for any help,

73,

Paul

GW7KES@GB7ONV    pdu@ua.nrb.ac.uk
From: brian@amdcl2.amd.com (Brian McMinn, N5PSS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Products
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:07:20 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Austin, TX.
Originator: brian@minotaur

In the Feb 93 QST, I saw the following new products that looked
interesting.  I have no connections with either, but thought they were
unusual enough to call attention to:

 Azden AX-21A, AZ-11, and AZ-61

      6m and 10m HTs!  (FM only) Azden is now in the HT business and
      their first three offerings are HT's for 2m, 6m and 10m.  I've
      seen a lot of net requests over the years for a 10m HT.  I
      called for a price and the 2m is $330, 10m or 6m is $320.

 j-Com MX series

      HT's for 80m through 6m!  (CW and SSB only) weight: 20oz incl.
      batteries.  2 Watts, single band  $350


 --Brian, N5PSS
 --brian@amd.com
From: mac@cis.ksu.edu (Myron A. Calhoun)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Coaxial Dipole Construction (HELP!)
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:55:29 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

mgustof@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Gustoff) writes:
>Some years ago I cut and article out of one
>of the Ham magazines on Coaxial Dipole 
>construction. I don't remember what magazine,....

"The Coaxial Resonator Match and the Broadband Dipole"
  QST, April, 1989, pp. 22 ff.

Also see R. D. Snyder's "Broadband Antennae Employing
Coxial Transmisison Line Sections" US Pat. 4,479,130
issued Oct. 23, 1984.

Similar title, but may or may not be related:
"The 'No Antennas' Antenna" (a coaxial dipole is one
woman's solution to problems with pesky landlords)
in 73 Magazine of May, 1981, pp. 82 ff.

--Myron.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: Shareware/Public Domain Software for Theory Test
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 16:22:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.150309.18633@newshost.lanl.gov> tjf@beta.lanl.gov (Tom J Farish) writes:
>For Mac useres, the Hypercard HamStacks (Novice through Extra) 
>can't be beat!  They are available on several ftp sites.

Such as??????

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Subject: WARC kits for TS180?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:22:28 GMT

The other night someone asked me on our tech net where he could get
a WARC kit for his Kenwood TS180. Does anyone know? Thanks and 73!

Jeff
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jdm@Cadence.COM (Joe Mastroianni)
Subject: Re: "Endurance" 
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:36:00 GMT

>
>>  Greetings to readers of QST!
>
>>  My short-story, "Endurance," will appear in the February issue of QST.
>
>
>Let me guess what "endurance" refers too...
>
>Is it regarding how long a new ham can wait for his FCC license before he
>breaks down, grabs his HT, sets the power on HIGH and screams...
>
>
>        "I've been waiting three months for my license and
>
>                  I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!"
>
>
>The ability to resist that temptation: is THAT what endurance is all about? ;-)
>


  Um. No.

  But I understand the temptation. You experience the same thing when
  your parents tell you to "wait until...X" to have sex. 

  Frankly, I did much better at restraining myself from illegally emitting
  RF than I did from participating in adolescent mating. With radio, I 
  was certain the FCC would pinpoint my location within seconds of
  an illegal radio outburst.  With the other, well, we didn't have AIDS 
  in the late 70's and I didn't think I'd meet a woman who could neutralize
  my higher cortical function.
  
  Turns out, I was wrong on both counts.


  Joe

  


  
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From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Causes Cancer
Date: 24 Jan 1993 14:12:09 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1993Jan23.190232.4275@news.columbia.edu> baw2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce A Weisberg) writes:
>
>	The key here is that you should always stay as far away as possible
>(remember, I said *as possible*) from ANY transmitting antenna, regardless of
>pwr or freq.  Some freq's are more hazardous than others, but this is stiil
>under investigation.

Well, after a lifetime of climbing up energized AM towers, I haven't noticed
anything but a few RF burns, and there are a lot of other AM broadcast
engineers who have been doing the same thing.

That's not to say that ham radio can't cause cancer... if you are cleaning
tube sockets with benzene and storing lots of leaking, PCB-laden capacitors
in your garage, you might be at risk.  Wash your hands after handling solder,
too.
--scott
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jerryb@jerber.sandiego.sgi.com (Jerry Bransford)
Subject: Re: ********
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:35:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.160143.1283@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>,
eustace@athena.lmo.dec.com (Joe Eustace) writes:
|> 
|>         I have a 193?, (I think it's a 1937, I left the manual at
|> home),
|>         Hammerlund Radio, it's original speaker, accessories, and the
|>         original documentation/owners manual.
|> 
|>         It works fine, I live near Worcester Mass., and I was able to
|>         get Radio Tokyo.
|> 
|>         If interested make an offer!
|> 
|>         I can be reached at the address above or,
|> 
|>         Joe Eustace
|>         13 Newton Street
|>         Auburn, Mass. 01501-2625
|>         (508) 791-3224 (evenings)

You're really going to have to provide more information for anyone to want
to make an offer.  What is the Hammarlund's model #, is it 100% functional,
and is it in decent condition.  How about it's physical appearance, is it
beat-up, missing knobs, or is it in generally good condition.  What
frequencies does it cover, etc. etc.

Hammarlund is a good radio with a good reputation and I am interested.



-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Silicon Graphics
(619) 546-0409
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From: laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HTs at Disneyland
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:43:19 GMT
Organization: Reliability Engineering Section, JPL
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak.jpl.nasa.gov

With the proliferation of these tiny (tinny?) cellular phones, how is it 
possible for anyone to even tell if the antenna sticking out of your pocket is
a "radio?" Couldn't it be a cellphone, or a walkman, or a watchman, or something
like that? Does Mickey have the right to strip-search you before allowing you
to enter the Magic Kingdom?

-grl.
-----
From: wvogel@MtHolyoke.edu (keeper of the tone)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: antenna use
Date: 24 Jan 1993 12:19:50 -0500
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
NNTP-Posting-Host: slab.mtholyoke.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


has anyone tried to modify a vhf/uhf tv antenna for use on 2mtr/70cm

if so what kind of luck did or did you not have 

thnx in advance

de wayne

1 xmtr shy of a station
From: tech@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Richard Loken)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Burglars are brighter than you might think!
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:32:20 GMT
Distribution: na

Then there is my uncle who was leaving for a week and asked a neighbour to 
watch the house.  The neighbour watched the house, robbed it, and tried to
burn it down.  Guess he didn't know the neighbour all that well.


--
  Richard Loken VE6BSV                             : "Better sex, bigger homes,
  Athabasca University, Athabasca, Alberta Canada  :  faster cars.  Vote YES on
  tech@cs.AthabascaU.CA                            :  on Monday."
  {atha|aunro}!cs.athabascau.ca!tech               : - Royal Canadian Air Farce
From: kenw@col.hp.com (Ken Wyatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Through-the-glass antennas
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:52:24 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpcsql.col.hp.com


Well...

I've been using the Larson 2/70 for nearly a year without a problem.
I followed the instructions to the letter, but I was worried that
the ambient temperature at the time (30 degrees) might affect the
joint quality.  No problems, though!

Seems to receive just fine, too!

Ken Wyatt (kenw@col.hp.com)

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: weaverb@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Brian Weaver)
Subject: Re: Larsen "kulduckie" w/ HT - is it worth it?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:31:18 GMT

Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith) writes:

>I bought the Diamond RH-77B ($30 from AES) and use it with my DJ-580T.
>It's a fabulous antenna, and makes all the difference in the world.
>It's 18" long, so it's not quite as convienent as the supplied duck,
>but the signal improvements are well worth it.  Saves batteries since
>I can usually use low power.

 I borrowed one of those Diamonds and I thought it sucked. Couldn't
tell any difference over my stock duck on my w2a for anything. Of course
maybe the stock DJ-580T duck is a piece of junk. Anyway, I lost my
stock icom duck a while back and bought the larson kul-duck. I didn't
want an 18" antenna sticking me in the armpit when the ht was on my
belt. I wouldn't recommend the diamond rh77b to anyone, it's just 
doesn't have the performance over other ducks to make it worth the
price or the hassle of having an 18" antenna sticking off the top of
your radio.

 Brian KD6CFA

-- 
Brian Weaver                      University of Colorado at Boulder
weaverb@boulder.Colorado.EDU      (internet)
KD6CFA@N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA     (packet radio)
From: stickler@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Patric M Stickler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Using electrical outlet ground as earth ground?????
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:32:34 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Does the ground socket of an electrical outlet provide a good (or at 
least reasonable) path to earth ground? I.e. would I be able to hook
up a three prong grounded plug with the two hot prongs removed in
order to connect my rig to earth ground via the electrical outlet?


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