From: wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 04:56:56 +0200
Organization: Villa Straylight, Hamburg, FRG
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp,de.comp.sys.amiga.uucp,amiga.uucp
Reply-To: "Kai 'wusel' Siering" <wusel@hactar.hanse.de>
Subject: Re: Modifed CNews ('90) for ALPHA testing ...
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In article <pjohnson.0r7h@jabba.uucp>,
	pjohnson@jabba.uucp (Palmer Johnson) writes:
% In article <24Aug1992.185903.11103@straylight.uucp> wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering) writes:
% > Hi,
% >
% >      fyi: this    evening    I'll    put    the    following   up   to
% > hactar:~/incoming/wCNews.lha;  interessted  poeple  may  get  this via
[...]
% >    wCNews.lha                983960 ----rwed Today     18:55:10
[...]
%
% CAN THIS BE BMSEDFROM HACTAR ?????????????????????????????????????????????

     Whow, someone  was  crying  out  loud =:-> Yes, this is also available
via  BMS  and mailserv@hactar.hanse.de (just request bms:pub/files (BMS) or
uupub:Contents  (nuucp/mailserv)  to  see  what's  available), although *I*
would prefer anonymous uucp, at least from Germany ...

     With mailservers  (and  BMS), you sometimes have nothing but trouble -
just fyi, here's an excerpt from uumail:bmserr:
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From uunet.UU.NET!destroyer!uucp Mon Aug 24 17:48:27 UTC 1992
Return-Path: <mcshh!unido!uunet.UU.NET!destroyer!uucp>
[...]
Apparently-To: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err
Message-Id: <9208240347.AA01256@destroyer.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 23:47:59 -0400
From: destroyer!uucp@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Warning From uucp

We have been unable to contact machine 'nucleus' since you queued your job.

        mail nucleus!nucleus!stss!jabba!bms_in    (Date 08/22)
Attempts will continue for a few more days.

        Sincerely,
        destroyer!uucp

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>From uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err Sat Aug 22 13:54:48 1992
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        via EUnet for uunet.uu.net
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   (Amiga1.02l6*hactar-96r) id <m0mLyK3-0000c3M@hactar.hanse.de>;
          Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:28:18 UTC
Reply-To: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err
X-Bms:
Message-Id: <m0mLyK3-0000c3M@hactar.hanse.de>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:28:19 +0200
From: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err (BMS)
To: jabba!bms_in
Subject: (none)

BMSBegin 59
+aaaaaqqdaGeaaaaaaaaaeaabaaeaaaaiaaaaaaaaacGWEdi6mhGYnaabqaaaaaad
+aaaaaaaaaaaWEdi
BMSEnd 0x820060d2

From vela.acs.oakland.edu!nucleus!uucp Sun Aug 30 13:35:30 UTC 1992
Return-Path: <mcshh!germany.eu.net!vela.acs.oakland.edu!nucleus!uucp>
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Message-Id: <199208300310.AA17822@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:10:22 -0400
From: nucleus!uucp@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Subject: Warning From uucp

We have been unable to contact machine 'stss' since you queued your job.

        stss!mail jabba!bms_in   (Date 08/24)
The job will be deleted in several days if the problem is not corrected.
If you care to kill the job, execute the following command:

        uustat -kstssZ51fb

        Sincerely,
        nucleus!uucp

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>From uucp Mon Aug 24 06:29 EDT 1992 remote from nucleus
>From uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err Sat Aug 22 13:54:48 1992
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Received: from pophh.Hamburg.Germany.EU.net
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        via EUnet for uunet.uu.net
        id AA03711; Sat, 22 Aug 92 19:53:06 +0200
Received: from mcshh by mail.Hamburg.Germany.EU.net (Smail3.1.26.7)
        via smtp - Mail
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          Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:28:18 UTC
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:28:19 +0200
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To: jabba!bms_in
Subject: (none)
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Well,  I'll  still support BMS- and mailserver-access, but I really DISlike
to  send  out  >1 MB in 60K chunks - and received 'em back some hours later
because of mailing problems ...
			kai

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 _ //   Kai 'wusel' Siering, Villa Straylight, Hamburg, Germany. Go for MIME!
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