From: jperry@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (John Perry)
Subject: Re: Gloat
Followup-To: alt.president.clinton,misc.test,talk.bizarre
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 05:05:56 GMT

m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier) writes:
> I wrote:
>>m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier) (the L is for Loser) writes:
>>>And when the economy sees unheard of lows as a result of Clinton's
>>>policies, Republicans will take the Congress for the first time in 40
>>>years and Jack Kemp will take the White House to begin another long
>>>period of Republican administration, this time without that bothersome
>>>Democrat Congress.
>>>
>>
>>  Loser.  Nothing that Clinton could possibly do would even come close to 
>>more than quadrupling the national debt, which is the main thing that George
>>accomplished in his 12 years in the White House.  At least Bush had respect 
>>for the man who beat him with an honest campaign, and congratualted him.  
>>Clearly, from the glut of obnoxious posts from snotty nosed mama's boys who
>>can't remember what it's like to have a president who isn't itching to find
>>a war to jump into all the time shows that his constituency isn't nearly as
>>good a losers.  But you are just that.   Loser.
>
>Let's see.  First of all, Bush was only president for FOUR years (he
>was VP for 8).  

  Notice I said 12 years "in the White House", and not 12 years "as president".
  The presumption here (though admittedly possibly wrong) is that George had
  some small influence during his years as VP as well.

> Second, Congress passes spending bills, including the
>pork that creates a large portion of the deficit.  Third, DEMOCRATS
>have been in control of the Congress for THIRTY-EIGHT YEARS.  

   1. Though Congress must pass these bills, the president must also sign
      them, therefore he is the only person accountable for every single
	penny that gets spent.

   2. Reagan had something of a mandate during his years, and it was HIS
      pork-barrel military projects that Congress was approving which was
      more than 1/3 of the national budget over his years.

   3. Notice that the "Democratic Congress" didn't manage to work up even a
      trillion dollars in debt before Reagan was elected (26 of those THIRTY-
      EIGHT years), yet in the last 12 years the Reagan/Bush/Quayle 
      administration managed to allow this debt to grow to 4.5 trillion.


  Conclusion:  Reagan/Bush/Quayle are the primary people responsible for the
	       huge national debt, though Congress does share some of the blame.

>  Sure, may be time for change according to many, but only change the
>Republicans.  Seems intelectually (sp?) dishonest and hypocritical.
>

   It is the Republicans who started this whole trickle-down economics
   thing, which George Bush once called "voo-doo economics", and it's failure
   should rightly be blamed on its chief proponents.


>God bless,
>
>Michael
>


Enjoy the fan-mail,

John

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