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From: mattp@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Mathew Perkins)
Subject: Re: Osborne1 disk translation help
Summary: where has princeton gone 
Keywords: princeton listserv listcoco cocolist pucc.edu
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:42:37 GMT



Does any body know when listserv will be back up and running as it has been
about 4 days since i have received any mail ??????


Please Reply Mail as i dont usualy read news 
reply to mattp@extro.ucc.su.oz.au (mperkins)

please dont forget to put the (mperkins) or i will not get it it will go
to a public lost& Found Area.
 
thanks in advance
mattp@extro.ucc.su.oz.au (mperkins(
From: kt@keihh.hanse.de (Kei Thomsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: Re: GCC Makefile
Date: 23 Jan 1993 18:10:50 GMT

In article <C17nC2.1Kt@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> bcwhite@babbage.uwaterloo.ca (Brian C. White) writes:

>Some people have been saying that they can't get GCC or GPP to work with
>the standard Microware 'make' utility.  I've included my makefile template
>below.

Here is my .suffixes file for use with gcc:

CC = gcc
CFLAGS = -O -m68020 -m68881
RDIR = .

all: ...

# last lines of the Makefile

.SUFFIXES:
.SUFFIXES: .r .c
.c.r:
		$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $*.c -o $(RDIR)/$*.r


Kei

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 2000 Hamburg 62   ||    OS-9 68030 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: drizzt@spock.uucp (Neela Jacques)
Subject: os9
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:33:10 GMT

Sorry for being ignorent but what is os9?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: stile@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Howard Wilson)
Subject: Rainbow Cover Price?
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:00:30 GMT


I just got the renewal offer for my subscription to RAINBOW.  It has
the usual three options, with each one giving a % off as compared to
cover price.
 
I have ONE question:  WHAT cover price?  I looked at my Rainbow, and it
claims a cover price, yep.  But...as far as I know, there are no more
Rainbows being sold at the news-stand, it is by subscription only.
Therefore, there really ISN'T a cover price.
 
Howard Wilson II
 
Someone want to explain the "cover price" of a magazine that cannot be
BOUGHT at said price?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: avi@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (Avi Cohen Stuart)
Subject: Terminal Emulator for OS-9
Originator: avi@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl
Reply-To: avi@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (Avi Cohen Stuart)
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:11:18 GMT

Hello,

I'm looking for a terminal emulator for OS-9. Something that can
handle vt100 (or other) using a modem. 

Any sources of guidelines how to write a terminal emulator are also welcome.

Thanks

-----------------------------------
(ir.) Avi Cohen Stuart
Information Theory Group
Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Delft University of Technology
The Netherlands
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From: stucs201@uk.ac.birmingham.computer-centre.ibm3090
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: Dragon Owners
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:12:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk

==============================================================================
This is probably optimistic but are there any Dragon owners out there?
After all it did run OS/9 !
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: Re: FAX software
From: balmer@ifi.unibas.ch (Marc Balmer)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:36:06 GMT
Reply-To: balmer@ifi.unibas.ch
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik

In article <7139@tuegate.tue.nl>  writes:
> 

> P.S. Just to make sure no-one else is already working on it: Anyone working
>      on a program to use the voice-capability of Zyxel modems??

Peter,

yes I am. I collected some sourcecode for the Zyxel. Now I am trying to put  
things together to use the voice/fax capability. What about a joint effort?

- Marc
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: holyst@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Herb Holyst)
Subject: Help needed for ncurses.l / termcap
Keywords: curses termcap
Organization: DuPont Engineering Physics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:21:15 GMT

Problem:
  When I use 'ncurses.l' from 'cabrales.cs.wisc.edu' I get extra numbers
appearing on my screen. I tracked them down to my termcap file. I'm
using the termcap that came with my OSK 2.4v Force(tm) VME system.

  I thought I had fixed the problem by removing the padding numbers
from the termcap file. (e.i. cl=50\E[;H\E[2J: became cl=\E[;H\E[2J:)
and the '50' didn't appear on the screen anymore when I clear a screen
with curses. But now things get garbled when alot of stuff is going to 
screen at different locations, and sometimes the screen only partially
gets updated.

Question:

  1) What should my termcap look like for values that need padding?

  2) Is anyone else using ncurses.l out there.

  Thanks in advance.

* Herb Holyst   ---   holyst@eplrx7.es.dupont.com *
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: gerd@zaphod.physik.fu-berlin.de (Gerd Buntkowsky)
Subject: Is there bash or tcsh for OS9/68k
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:35:16 GMT

Hello,
is there a port of bash or tcsh for OS9/68k? 
Thanks in advance
   gerd
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      gerd@zaphod.physik.fu-berlin.de     | Inst. f. org. Chemie            
      phone +49 30 838-2453 fax -5163     | Takustr.3 D-1000 Berlin 33      
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: peters@picker.com (Bill Peters)
Subject: ftp site
Organization: Picker International, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:35:57 GMT

This is probably a FAQ but I havent seen this info lately..

I am looking for the FTP site where all the OS9/OSK public domain
software is stored at. I know that the Univ. of Wisconsin had a site
at one time and the latest name I can remember was Hermit I think..

Is this site still up and running?? If not is there a replacement site??

Thanks in advance

			Bill Peters
			
			email   peters@xray.picker.com
			or      peters@engvax.picker.com


Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: bcwhite@babbage.uwaterloo.ca (Brian C. White)
Subject: More Amiga OS-k
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:28:15 GMT

More on the Amiga OS-k front.  We tried setting the colored memory list
so that the kernel would initialize the chip ram as it started up.  We
figured that if we saw the video display go to some wierd pattern, we'd
at least know it was getting that far.  Nothing happened.  No video
change.  Just the same illegal instruction trap.

HELP!

                                        Brian

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From: rpc@moscom.com (Robert Colbey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: OS9 for CoCo II ?
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:29:46 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., E. Rochester, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.3 beta PL7]

I am looking for OS9 for a Tandy Color Computer II.
Help!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: dibble@microware.com (Peter Dibble)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM with my IRQ routines
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:38:53 GMT

In article <105860@netnews.upenn.edu> mark@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu (Mark Elliott) writes:
>---------------------THE QUESTION-----------------------------------------------
>	Does anyone know how an Interrupt Service Routine loaded in the IRQ
>table can find out the vector number of the interrupt which caused it to be
>invoked?
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>As it is now, I have as many ISRs as I do
>boards, all of them almost identical.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Mark Elliott                       |     

The information you want is on the stack.
The hardware puts the vector number in the interrupt stack frame 
if you are using something more recent than a 68000, and the jump 
table puts it on the stack for any processor.  
Although the information you want is there, I recommend that you don't 
look for it.  That kind of thing is undocumented and very subject to change.

You can improve your situation a lot with a little bit of entirely
"front door" trickery.

Continue to set up a separate ISR for each vector, but do very little
before you enter common code that is shared between all the devices.
The most space-efficient way I know to do this is:

ISR1: addq.l #4,a3 kick port address 
ISR2: addq.l #4,a3 kick port address 
ISR3: addq.l #4,a3 kick port address 
ISR4: addq.l #4,a3 kick port address 
ISR5: addq.l #4,a3 kick port address 
ISR6: addq.l #4,a3 kick port address 
ISR7: common code

There'll be a loop somewhere else that F$IRQ's all 7 ISRs.

This is a bit space inefficient, but if the difference between
your devices is just their port address, or something you can express
in small amounts of static storage, it will let you fold a bunch of
interrupt service routines into one with little overhead.

Peter
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: re@hades.enpc.fr (Rolf EBERT)
Subject: problem with big fonts in LaTeX
Keywords: LaTeX, fonts
Organization: Ecole Nationale des Ponts et Chaussees
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:47:36 GMT

I've got a strange problem with TeX/LaTeX. When compiling a medium
sized text with LaTeX I get the following error message:

! Font \\pbf\@xxvpt=cmbx10 scaled 2488 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.

and some lines later a similar one:

! Font \\pbf\@xxpt=cmbx10 scaled 2074 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.

What strikes me, is that the corresponding tfm does exist and already
is used at different scales. So there is obviously an error in the
error message, or am I missing something here?

Any help is appreciated, but I prefer personal e-mail (ebert@enpc.fr). I will
summarize for the net, if anybody is interested.

my config:

Linux 0.99.2 on a 386-33 with 8MB. LaTeX is from tsx-11 and works fine
so far on all existing texts.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pclark@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Peter Clark)
Subject: X on an ATI+
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:32:22 GMT

While I'm waiting for my ATI Pro to come in, I am using an ATI+ card and
would appreciate it if some kind soul would be kind enough to send me
their Xconfig for their ATI+ - I'm having real problems getting this to
work ('no screens', 'cant hook to server - device not found', 'must set
clocks in Xconfig (trying to use the generic mono driver)..........

Thanks in advance.

-- 
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            + Empire - it's not just a game, it's an adventure
            + EMACS is computereez for a torture device
From: jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov ()
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: xdm - only a bad joke ?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:42:15 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1j8eniINN2d7@shelley.u.washington.edu> liesche@milton.u.washington.edu (Jochen Liesche) writes:
>In article <1j61fqINNe5b@majestix.informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de> frl@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de (Frank Luthe) writes:
>>after 2 weeks testing I see no chance anymore to get xdm running correctly.
>>(SLS0.98pl5).
>>To get it to an autostart seems to be impossible. I checked almost every
>>variant: rc.local, rc, inittab, inout-redirection, etc. nothing works.
>>But even a non-autostart doesn't work correctly. After the second user has
>>logged out, the system hangs.
>>I've heard of rumours, that this is a special SLS-problem. Is that true?
>>If so, will it be fixed in the near future?
> put xdm -nodaemon < /dev/console in your rc.local.
>I'm using straight SLS(99pl2) and it works fine for me.

Hmmmm...I'm running a Gateway 2000 486DX/33 with the ATI ULTRA board
(8514) running the SLS distribution from tsx-11.mit.edu (as of last
friday - 1/22/93) and linux.99.4 kernel. I use the X8514 server and
can get that running semi-normally using startx, but I *can't* get
xdm to work properly...basically it just switches the monitor/card to
graphics mode and sits there...pressing any key gets no response other than
a beep. I've basically given up on it...
From: jsteele@netcom.com (John Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS xmkmf and 0.99pl4 top/w problem
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:34:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan26.223413.1689
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

There may be a problem with the current version of SLS with xmkmf.
Attempting to execute gives '/lib/cpp does not exist' and refuses to
continue.  There is no /lib/cpp, is this a version of gcc problem?

Secondly, I am using pl4 -m486 with basically all fs's installed,
excluding SCSI, using a 660M ESDI drive completely for Linux fs/efs.

Everything appears to be working fine, with exception to 'w':

  10:42am  up 8426 days, 10:33, 6 users load average 0.0, 0.0, 0.0
  User  tty login@  idle  JCPU  PCPU  what
  lseek kmem: Unknown error 151587082


Obviously I haven't had this system up for 8426 days :>  and the load
average is incorrect and is it counting vc's as users?  Oh, top quit
working also.  ps, who, all appear correct.

That's it for now,
  John
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: balesej@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Eric J Bales)
Subject: Help with X and SVGA needed!
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:53:17 GMT


I've got Linux up and running quite nicely on my machine (SLS
release from tsx-11.mit.edu) including X.  X loads fine and
works well if I use it in 640x480.  It will run in 800x600,
but the screen is shifted to the right by about an inch and a
half.  In 1024x768, I can't get it to sync at all.

My card is a Boca ET4000 SVGA card with 1 Meg RAM.  The monitor
is a Panasonic C1381 interlaced.  I have been using the
interlaced settings in the Xconfig file, but it still won't
sync quite right.  I suspect some of those rather bizarre
numbers to the right of the screen size may be the cause.

Does someone with a similar setup know what needs to be changed?
Thanks...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vzandy@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Victor Zandy)
Subject: Help with Gateway2000 Xconfig?
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:26:02 GMT
Distribution: comp
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hello.

I am running X386 on my Gateway 2000 386sx/16 with 4M RAM.  I would
love to hear what mode settings people with similar systems are using;
particularly 640x480 and 800x600 modes.  I have had some success with
800x600 -- a stable display, but lots of snow whenever I move the
mouse or scroll text in a window.

All response appreciated.

Victor Zandy
vzandy@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:30:06 CST
From: Greg Wettstein <NU013809@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux file systems
 <JOHNSONM.93Jan19152556@lars.stolaf.edu> <1993Jan20.200917.19049@jussieu.fr>

I just wanted to offer a couple of comments.  First a note of thanks to
Remy for supplying us with the original enhanced file system and for the
upcoming enhanced-enhanced :-) file system.  I also applaud him for his
position on hoping that all filesystem maintainers/creators learn from
each others endeavors.  Linux has profited much from previous associations
of this kind.

With the filesystems in such a state of flux I was wondering if anyone
has given some thought to incorporating a flag into their filesystems to
indicate the state of 'shutdown' of the filesystem.  I suppose this would
be referred to as a filesystem 'dirty' flag for lack of a better word.  This
may even already exist, although I have found no references to it.

The concept behind this is to provide some indication if the filesystem was
shut down in an orderly manner, ie sync'ed before the kernel dropped.  Having
such a capability would allow the development of smart file system checkers
which could determine whether or not a filesystem had to be 'cleaned' upon
startup.

I would suspect that an ioctl or a kernel call would have to be implemented
which when called would mark all mounted filesystems that had this
attribute as clean.  The reboot/halt/shutdown suites could be modified to
sync the kernel, then mark the filesystems and then either halt or reboot.

The first thing the configuration scripts would do would be to call the
file system checking programs which would in turn check the devices
status to determine whether or not there was the potential of a damaging
shutdown.

If I am overlooking something that already exists I would appreciate a
pointer on implementing this.  I am re-writing our network's configuration
scripts and would like to include this functionality so that reboots will
be handled in an elegant fashion.  Similar functionality can be kludged
via invisible files and the like but a kernel/filesystem based approach
has the flavor of a cleaner implementation.  Comments, suggestions??

                            As always,
                            Dr. G.W. Wettstein
                            Oncology Research Division Computing Facility
                            Fargo Clinic / MeritCare

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux & TCPIP & Xircom 
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 04:11:19 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1993Jan19.143828.11509@anl433.uucp> Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp writes:

   I have all of 0.99pl2 installed on a notebook.

   I have a Xircom parallel port ethernet adapter that I want to use to
   connect my notebook to our LAN.

   Has anyone got a Xircom to work on the parallel port?

Won't happen.  The kernel requires source code to be available;
Xircom requires that source code NOT be available.  You bought the
wrong parallel port adapter to use with an open system.

The following manufacturers support open systems:

D-Link - 714-455-1688
Solectek - 619-450-1220
Accton - 415-266-9800
Compulan - 408-922-6888
[ and soon Kodiak - 510-226-7840 ]

Please tell them that Russell Nelson sent you because of their past
support for packet drivers and free software in general.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vinod@cse.iitb.ernet.in (Vinod Kulkarni)
Subject: QUESTION: CUTCP-like display interface to telnet anywhere?
Summary: Want a better interface with telnet program ... 
Keywords: telnet CUTCP VC scroll
Organization: Computer Sc. & Engg Dept, IIT Bombay
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:57:50 GMT

CUTCP (telnet program for PCs) offers quite a nice interface to telnet to
any other machine. I specially like scrolling back, and monitoring
data arrivals in other sessions using slash charaters flipping left and
right. 

I either need 
1.  A better telnet program that offers CUTCP-like features, or 
2.  modification to VC code so as to 
       i. Enable scrolling back to previous n'th line. And,
      ii. A status line at the bottom of screen that shows
          status  of other VCs [arrival of new characters, bells etc.] 

I face these problems typically when I work in many VCs. For e.g.
to check if ftp'ing is over in other VC, I have to switch back and
forth quite often. Similarly  if there is talk message in a VC which I
am not currently in, most possibly, it goes unnoticed.

A status line showing status of all VC's will surely be great help.

Is there any such utility already available? Or has anyone tried to
implement this kind of a thing?

-Vinod.G.Kulkarni
research scholar,
Dept. of CSE, IIT Bombay, India.


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen)
Subject: Re: Why not splitting this group?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:54:28 GMT

In article <1k67fiEINN939@uni-erlangen.de> unrzf0@cip.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Carl Scheuermann) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I know, there has been a lot of talking about splitting this group.
>But I can't understand, why it isn't possible to find a solution to this
>problem. 

Sigh...

>There are so many questions on how to install the XServer. So
>why not creating a group comp.os.linux.X11. 

Becuase there is a group comp.windows.x.i386unix that allready does
this.  What does configuring Xfree86 (which is the same on BSD, Linux,
and SysV) have to do with the Linux operating system?

>Or, for the people working
>with TCP/IP, making a group comp.os.linux.TCP?

TCP is still very beta.  Technical questions about TCP implementation
in the kernel should probablly be directed to the mail list.  When TCP
is stable, comp.protocols.tcp-ip can answer these questions.

>Please don't kill me if I say something that has been said a lot of times.
>But the current state of this group isn't bearable any more - and it WILL 
>get worse.

The only reason it will get worse is if people continue to ask
questions like your next one in comp.os.linux.

>
>Bye the way,
>can someone tell me the difference of all the different S3 chip versions?
>All the different chips I know of is 911, 928 and 801. Are there more of them?
>(why does the latter one don't have such a cute Porsche modell number?)

What a good question.  How 'bout you ask it in
comp.sys.ibm.ps.hardware where it belongs.

>
>thanx 4 your answers,
>
>Carl

Don't mention it. 
- Rob