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Subject: Re: *** WHAT'S THE BEST COMM PROTOCOL *** 
Distribution: world
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Reply-To: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:35:43 +0000

In article <1992Dec21.181829.4391@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dml7@navaho.cc.bellcore.com writes:

>i'm having trouble deciding which communications protocol package to
>use on my pc.  i was using kermit and still using it.  however,
>someone mentioned to me that zmodem was much better and faster.
>one can assume that speed and reliability are the main factors
>to consider.  which one (kermit or zmodem, or any other ones)
>would permit one to download/upload most efficiently and most
>quickly?  obviously, modem speed plays a role as well.  please
>e-mail me below or post.  i will summarize should there be enough
>interest.  thanks in advance.
>
>dan
>
>  ________/----------------------/______
> / Danny / dml7@cc.bellcore.com / 1992 /
>/_______/----------------------/______/
>

It is easy to say what you should NOT be using, and that's Kermit
or XMODEM.  These two protocols have a VERY high overhead, and were
really designed for slow (300 baud or so) comms over noisy lines.

As to what you SHOULD be using - that's tougher, and depends on your
modem.  If you have a modem which *doesn't* do error correction
itself, you should use an error-correcting protocol with a long packet
length - YMODEM or XMODEM/1K are the most common.  If, as most modern
modems do, your modem itself does error detection/correction (ie, supports
MNP4 or V42), you'd be better off with a protocol which assumes an
error-free line.  Of these the most common is ZMODEM, although slightly
more efficient, if you have software which supports it, is YMODEM-G.

I hope this has not added to your confusion!

Chris
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From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: hdts535a.zip (Re: When having no response from Garbo mail server)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:17:07 GMT

ts@chyde.uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:

>>Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 13:44 MST
>>From: anasaz!kew@uucs1 ()
>>To: ts@uwasa.fi
>>Subject: Please help me with garbo-request
>>
>>
>>My mail message would normally look something like this:
>>
>>send pc/diskutil/hdtst498.zip

There is a more recent version for this ...

PD1:<MSDOS.DSKUTL>
HDTS535A.ZIP  139775  8  921026  Comprehensive HD test with support for DOS 5.0






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From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: Looking for pgm to disable certain keystrokes
Keywords: TSR keyboard
Date: 2 Jan 93 06:02:45 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <V1ePwB1w165w@netlan.jpr.com> alberg@netlan.jpr.com (Al Berg) writes:
>I am seeking a program that will allow me to (temporarily) disable 
>certain keystrokes from being passed to an application (ie user presses 
>Alt-X and it goes to the bit bucket before the app gets it).  I envision 
>this being a TSR that I can load and unload as needed.
>
>Anyone know where I can find such a beast?

I don't know, but what a good idea.  I think I'll write such a TSR
in the near future.  I already have such TSRs for disabling some of
the more exotic keys.  These are alt-ctr-del, the CapsLock key, and
the PrintScreen key (the last is not a TSR, actually). 

   All the best, Timo

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: rmccown@world.std.com (Bob McCown)
Subject: Re: BBS Select-type program wanted
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:12:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.181728.25429@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rnovak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak) writes:
>rmccown@world.std.com (Bob McCown) writes:
>
>>I'm looking for a program a'la BBS SELECT to allow my users to choose
>>between 2 different BBS's.  Ive tried BBSMENU from garbo, but it wont do
>>exactly what I want.  Any other ideas?
>
>There are features that will allow this in two popular front-end mailer
>packages, FrontDoor (FD202.*) and BinkleyTerm (various archives
>available). Frontdoor calls it external mail (I think), and allows a
>character input to select batch files. I don't know about BinkleyTerm, but
>it might also have similar functions with similar ease. 
>
I already run Frontdoor, and I dont believe that this is available, unless
Ive missed something in the DOCs, in which case I need help with the
setup.  All that comes up is the ever popular 'press esc to enter xxx'
prompt, no banner page, nada.
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From: csc@pilot.njin.net (Sean Casey)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: Four Galileo space probe images
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:17:53 GMT
Organization: The Leaning Tower of Patterson Office @ The Univ. of KY

If you or anyone else can scan or otherwise obtain these images in
24-bit color (preferably JPEG compressed), I'd really like to have
them.

Sean
From: startrek@hardy.u.washington.edu (Michael Breckenridge)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: URGENT need for a MAC-to-PC ATM or TT font translator!
Summary: URGENT need for a MAC-to-PC ATM or TT font translator!
Keywords: atm,adobe,truetype,type1,font,windows
Date: 27 Dec 92 08:47:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec27.084744.15858
Organization: University of Washington

Hi. I am seeking a program that works in either DOS 5.00 or Windows 3.1,
I don't care which, that will let me translate Macintosh Type 1 (Adobe)
or TrueType fonts to PC format. Acute Systems' program Refont V1.1 is
supposed to do this, but I have it, and I tried it, and it won't translate
fonts stored in Macintosh "font suitcase" format. Using Mac-Ette, I get  
the font file (in the resource fork) into my DOS directory, but, Refont
says "INVALID FONT FORMAT". BTW, the source fonts are from the EDUCORP 
CD-ROM of shareware, the new one, and the Mac uses System 7.

Hence, I need a program that will do this. Please e-mail me an FTP site
name that has such a program, if you know of one. If you have one from 
another source, even a commercial application, please e-mail info about it.

If it's your program, I suggest you post a big ad for it in CAM, as I
doubt I'm the only one who is seeking this. 

A
Michael Breckenridge <startrek@u.washington.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: TEST posting
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 07:18:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.113725.131120@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl> pzoestbergen@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl writes:
>TEST to see if posting is possible

Yes, certainly.  Here is more information on testing in general. 
This being a new group, I understand your need of testing, but still
avoid doing this.  Your next step should be testing cancelling your
test posting.  If you are using rn, press C at your message.  For
other newsreader programs see their help function.  (I confess
having done testing in CAM.announce myself, but I also cancelled my
test.  Besides as a moderator I really had no choice but to test the
tools which bring you our announcements). 

-From: garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaq31.zip Frequently Asked Questions
Subject: Where to put test postings

16. *****
 Q: Where to put test postings?

 A: Please don't take offence by this item. It is meant as a
friendly piece of advice, not as a flame. Novice users, and
sometimes even others, occasionally place these "A test, please
ignore" messages in discussion newsgroups. Please don't do this. It
is wasteful of the resources. These news reach tens of thousands of
readers, so a very wide distribution is involved. Furthermore, many
users find the test messages very annoying in the discussion
newsgroups, and you have a good chance of getting some testy email.
   There is a much better solution for the testing. There are
special test newsgroups just for this purpose, such as alt.test and
misc.test. The misc.test is a good option, since there are several
test echos along the feed. They will automatically send you
email acknowledgements when your test posting reaches these sites.
   One more piece of advice on test posting. Don't start with a
"world" distribution right away. First consider experimenting with
"local", and think of expanding only after that, if this is still
necessary. If you look at the header of a UseNet posting, you'll
notice that it includes the a line for distribution.
   If you are a system manager who has had to do the test this way
for practical reasons, my apologies if this advisory note was not
appropriate in the case of your test.
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Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: background PC->PC file transfer ?
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:51:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.081856.14267@netcom.com> bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew) writes:
>	In the June 8, 1992 issue of Microtimes, on p.68 ... 224
>	Birrell Walsh describes doing this IN THE BACKGROUND and
>	much more using Deskview and The Deskview Companions.
>	I don't have a complete issue handy, so go find the address
>	to ask for a reprint, unless your library archives Microtimes.

From the most currnt issue of MicroTimes:MicroTimes, California's Computer
Magazine, is published by BAM Publications, Inc. 3470 Buskirk Ave., Pleasant
Hill, Ca 94523 (510)935-3700.

Back issues are $6 each. Though a free periodical in the San Francisco Bay
Area, they do have subscriptions for those outside of the bay area. It is
a really good paper to get if you are in the market for a MS-DOS system.
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From: cj337@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Etienne Tasse)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: While FTP I got this:
Date: 23 Dec 1992 15:46:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cj337@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Etienne Tasse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>>> checking security of host `wuarchive.wustl.edu'
>>> host `wuarchive.wustl.edu' has IP addr [128.252.135.4]
>>>
>>> There is a problem with the host name you specified.
>>> FTPMAIL will not contact a host whose name cannot be
>>> mapped into an IP address, or whose IP addresses do
>>> not all map back to valid names.  The problem shown
>>> below is something ftpmail-admin@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com
>>> CANNOT FIX!  Please contact the Zone Technical Contact
>>> of the affected domain (or its postmaster if you don't
>>> have a way to find the Zone Technical Contact).  We are
>>> not in the business of reporting Domain Name Service
>>> errors to the respective domain owners, and if you report
>>> such an error to ftpmail-admin@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com, we
>>> will probably just ignore it.  The DNS error was:
>>>
>>> IP addr [128.252.135.4] has no in-addr PTR RR
>>>
>>> If you do not understand any of this, you should read
>>> RFC's 1033, 1034, and 1035.  You can get RFC's from a
>>> variety of places, including GATEKEEPER.DEC.COM in its
>>> /pub/net/info/rfc directory (grab "rfcNNNN.txt").

Anybody know what do do now?
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Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen)
Subject: Re: Jumbo303.zip upload is just version 3.01!
Summary: Please send problem reports to the uploader, if possible.
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 02:38:50 GMT

e_p@unlinfo.unl.edu (edgar pearlstein) writes:

>     I just downloaded jumbo303.zip from oak.oakland.edu.  It is
> supposed to be a bugfix for version 3.01.  Unfortunately, what I got
> is just version 3.01.  It is labeled 3.01 (after unzipping), and the
> zipfile is exactly the same as that for 3.01. 

Your complaint has been forwarded to the uploader:

     mdlawler@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael D. Lawler)

Did you have trouble sending e-mail to him?

Keith
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From: v393vlqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel W. Emmer)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: *** WHAT'S THE BEST COMM PROTOCOL ***
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec22.060156.21865@u.washington.edu>, fetrow@biostat.washington.edu (David Fetrow) writes...
> Let's get very specific about what you need to do to make Kermit run at near
>Zmodem speeds. Here are the settings I use: 
>set send packet 2000
>set rec packet 2000
>set window 2
[Stuff deleted] 
>up to use the ancient settings by default for backwards compatability,
>which makes it look a lot worse than it is if you don't take the time
>to experiment a bit. 

Time which I took long ago, before switching to Zmodem.  Our local VAX has
an older Kermit (VMS Kermit-32 version 3.3.126), which only supports packet
lengths up to 1000 and doesn't do sliding windows (as far as I could find,
anyway).  It was far easier to grab the VMS Zmodem from SIMTEL20 and start
using that than it would have been to convince our system administrators to
upgrade Kermit.  And given Zmodem's crash recovery, strong error checking /
correction (it's never given me an unrecoverable error due to anything but
one machine or the other going down...), and nifty  graphical display
(courtesy GSZ), I doubt that I'd go back even if they did upgrade.

However, the bottom line seems to be that the BEST protocol for any
situation depends more on the situation than it does on the protocol....

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Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: AGRANHOLM@finabo.abo.fi (Alexander Granholm)
Subject: WANTED: AdLib Driver or eqvivalent
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:54:17 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

I have got a Media Vision Thunder Board sound card, and I would need something
equivalent to SOUND.COM that comes with the AdLib-card. Any suggestions?

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From: SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu (Senthil Ramas Kumar)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: program to check cpu speed
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:38:13 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Recently, I came across this program qdram.arc and dramfast.arc, which
decrease the dram refresh rate, thus increasing the cpu speed by 5-10%.
now, I have a problem, how do I check out the cpu speed of my computer ? the
program cpuspeed.arc on simtel, crashes on my machine.  I have a 486/33.

Also, I have heard that there are shareware versions of automap ? I guess,
it shows u all the details of the various interstates etc.  so that one can
plan a trip across the Us, by just sitting in front of the computer ? [I am
lazy :)]

I would be thankful, if u folkx, could direct me to the correct place.
Also, I hope, I have posted this to the correct newsgroup.  If I havnt, my
apologies.

Kumar
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce)
Subject: Clipart Archives??
Organization: We don't need no stinkin' batches!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:42:23 GMT

Does anyone know of a good clipart (preferably .PCX or .TIF) archive?
Also, does anyone know of a program that will print a nice catalog of clipart?
I have several disks of .PCX files and it is a pain trying to remember what
each file looks like.  I can use several viewers but I would like a hardcopy
catalog.

Thanks,
  Steve Pierce
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Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: oneill@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill)
Subject: Re: Posting on CBIP
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:22:23 GMT

In article <Jm2iwB2w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> abhalla@infopls.chi.il.us (Arun Bhalla) writes:
>What is the exact format of posting on c.b.i.p.
>I have my files UUENCODED already.
>
>Arun Bhalla
>

Read the regularly posted file "bin.man", which will be posted again on Jan.
1st.

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University of Massachusetts at Lowell
Internet: oneill@ulowell.edu		Moderator, comp.binaries.ibm.pc
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: Relocating recent upload announcements
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:45:07 GMT

In article <kko.725105352@sfu.ca> kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko) writes:
>>In fact I only copied the original upload announcement, and then
>>referred to it.  Thus the claim was not mine, nor does it present my
:
>Or why not follow Keith's way of posting? ... It is almost a norm for a
>moderator to post articles in the names of the uploaders / submitters ...
>So you don't take away their fames ... :) And the readers won't be mistaken
>that you endorse the views/assertions of the authors / uploaders ... And
>it is simply easier to read messages without the quotes ( > ) ...

I have thought about this alternative also before, and I can see the
advantages.  However, I came to the conclusion that unlike Keith I
clearly prefer the post the upload announcements in the quoted
format, and thus want continue post them in my own name.  Both
methdos have their pros and cons, both in principle and in practice. 

As you will have noticed we do many things the same way, but there
are also some differences like this posting convention.  The other
minor differences are that Keith prefers that SIMTEL20 policies are
not debated on the net (please respect that, gentle users), while
Garbo policies can.  The background is simply that I am fortunate to
be in a postition where I have a decisive say in most Garbo policy
issues.  (Not that I am likely agree to change anything! :-).  The
third of the few differences is that I am a bit more inclined to
reporting (also alleged) program bugs publicly while Keith prefers
that the author be contacted first.  That is about all the
differences in our practices that I can think of.  These really pose
no problems whatsoever.  In fact they make our work more efficient
when we don't need to overdo our well-working coordination of
SIMTEL20 and Garbo practices. 

While we are on policy matters you may have observed that SIMTEL20
and Garbo occasionally announce things in a duplicate manner.  We
have discussed this between ourselves.  We have come to the
conclusion that we simply cannot afford an extra coordination
effort.  Besides there is no real harm in the overlap except some
additional bandwidth. 

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
From: vporguen@unlinfo.unl.edu (victor porguen)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: ZIP to ZIP!
Date: 31 Dec 1992 06:14:59 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu
Keywords: ZIP Telecommunications UART File-transfers

Writes Timo Salmi (ts@uwasa.fi):

> I would like to turn to another question, which relates to the 
> Telix host mode (hostplus).  Does anyone know how to make it work 
> over a direct connection (two PCs connected via a cable).  I have 
> not (yet?) found it covered in the hostplus documents, and 
> experimenting has not been successful.  

I don't think the Telix Host Mode is intended to manage a direct 
PC-to-PC link. It is intended to manage a modem, for incoming 
calls. It controls the line with modem commands and relies on 
modem signals and responses.

> Procomm plus (I have 1.1A), incidentally, has a setting to enable 
> a direct connection, and it works.  

Yes. And several other programs can be used in that way, too. For
example, you can use the Jmodem external protocol program as a
self-standing PC-to-PC file transfer utility. Especially v1.20, a
5 KB executable written is assembly. Later versions, rewritten
in C, and are slower and bulkier. It should also be possible to
use DSZ in the same way. And several other programs.

> So does laplink over the same cable. 

Yes, Laplink is intended SPECIFICALLY for that purpose.

> This obviously means that the problem is with the Telix hostmode.

It is not a problem, actually, the Host+ doesn't appear to have
that feature, and there is no good reason why it should.  Most other 
Host Modes do not have it either. They are meant to work with 
modems, not directly over a cable. 

If you need a direct, PC-to-PC file-transfer program, there's 
nothing better, faster or cheaper than ZIP, by Meyer. It is a superb 
utility.  It will squeeze all the speed the PC UART can accommodate
using a simple null-modem cable. ZIP dates back to 1987 or so. The 
latest issue is v1.6, dated November 1992.  (The name trademark
predates Katz', by the way).

Meyer's ZIP demonstrates that you can indeed write comm software (in 
assembler) that can drive the PC port to its maximum speed, up to 
about 115,000 bps on a direct connection, without need of any stupid 
"buffered UARTS" (16550).  It incorporates its own error-
correction protocol and even has a Server mode.  Gosh, you can even 
adjust its menu colors!

 (Next time somebody tells you that you need to install a 
 16550 buffered UART in your computer in order to stop having 
 "lost characters" at 14,400 bps, tell him to go take a look 
 at Meyer's ZIP program to learn how to write efficient serial-
 port management software that doesn't loose characters at 
 115,000 bps through a plain UART! )

ZIP is free for personal use. And so is Jmodem.