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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas, most playoff wins
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:23:37 GMT
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In <27000218@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com writes:

> Reality check - Dallas also has the most playoff loses - not Denver, not
> Houston, not Cleveland.

  Which would tend to indicate the most playoff appearances, as well.
Is this correct?


semper fi,

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From: jab55062@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The World Reknown Jason Boskey)
Subject: Re: Playoff Football Pool
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:01:59 GMT

Odds as of 1/6/93 at 12am



Team                Odds        
San Francisco       1-1
Dallas              5-1 
Philadelphia        7-1
San Diego           8-1
Washington          8-1
Buffalo            17-1
Miami              26-1
Pittsburgh         26-1


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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Domers 0-3 in playoffs
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:15:04 GMT

The ABC sportscasters pointed out last Saturday that a team which plays
indoors has never won the superbowl (at least not since they moved indoors). 
Well, it won't change this year, as all three of the playoff domers lost
in the first weekend of the playoffs.

Why can't I rid myself of the image of Mike Ditka on roller skates?

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
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From: nix@ssdss5.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Re: CRAP FOOTBALL STIKES AGAIN!
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:31:52 GMT

>Why don't we have a better team?  Players get suckered into playing A.Football
>at HS and College level because of money.  If you ask any of these soccer and
>football players you'll find out that soccer is a much more physically demanding
>sport.  Time and time again i've seen players come off of football season to
>start playing soccer again and they hardly last through the first half.

Apples and oranges.  Soccer is much more aroebically demanding, whereas the
premium in football is physical strength (hence the steroid problem).
Sprints and marathons are both running events with far different physical
needs.  Soccer and football, likewise, should not be compared.

Let's drop this soccer talk.  Most readers in this group want to talk and 
read about American professional football.  Most do not give a rip about
soccer, and those who do give a rip do not read this group to talk soccer.
If you have an opinion about soccer then post it elsewhere.

Nix
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: AP Offensive Player of the Year
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:43:42 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.


AP article in today's Salt Lake Tribune (reprinted without permission):

New York--Steve Young, who surged out of the shadow of a superstar to have  
a super season, was selected Monday as the Associated Press 1992 Offensive  
Player of the Year.

The oft-maligned Young, a backup to Joe Montana for four years and subject  
of trade rumors when the season began, led the 49ers to the best record in  
the league, 14-2. He also led the NFL in passing with a 107 rating, 25  
touchdowns and seven interceptions, completing 66.7% of his passes.

Such stats, and Young's unquestioned leadership amidst uncertainty  
concerning Montana, made him a worthy recipient of the award Montana won  
in 1989.

"It's a fantastic honor. The funny thing is I feel like, as a team, we can  
even get better," Young said. "To get something like that, what it tells  
me is we have 11 guys on the same page. And in football, there's nothing  
more satisfying than knowing that we've got 11 guys that are going in the  
same direction as one unit."

Young received 28 of the 80 votes cast by a nationwide panel of media  
members.

Offensive Player Voting:

Player, Team		Points
------------------------------
Steve Young, SF		28
Barry Foster, Pitt	24
Emmitt Smith, Dal	17
Sterling Sharpe, GB	6
Thurman Thomas, Buf	3
Rickey Watters, SF	1
Jim Kelly, Buf		1	
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From: rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan)
Subject: Re: SON OF CRAP FOOTBALL!
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:16:55 GMT

In article <1ik3g6INN8sv@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.132300.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>
>[more 3rd world crap deleted]
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> >By the way America has the biggest proportion of iliterate people, in the
> >western world, not to mention the porpotion of fat bastards you have.
> >
>
>True, but we have the nukes !!!
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>nuff said !
>

So do some third world countries (India, for example).
Try to be a little bit more sensitive the next time
you post something.

-- rst
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:14:08 EST
From: Wb-1 <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: More predictions
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Heck, I'll add my $.02 worth
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NFC - San Francisco 31, Dallas 28.
     It doesn't matter what defense the 49ers are playing, they're the class of
the league.  The grass slowed both teams down last week so lousy weather will
favor the Cowboys.  Smith can run through any kind of weather.  The 49ers lost
the Championship game the last time they hosted the NFC Championship game.
Don't expect it to happen it again, although don't be really surprised if it
does.
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AFC - Miami 21, Buffalo 20.
      This is as good as an AFC Championship game as you can expect.  They are
the two best teams in the AFC.  Miami humbled and faltered down the strtech,
but home field advantage was the factor in the 31-0 drubbing over San Diego.
Miami was able to jump to quick leads twice this year when they played the
Bills.  They won't let up this time.  But the Bills will fight even tougher
this time and keep the game close.  If it was at Buffalo, Bills would win, but
this is why the Bills will regret tying for the division and not winning it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
San Francisco 42, Miami 17.
    Yawn, what else is new?  Miami is one of those teams you can't predict -
they fluctuate week after week after week.  They'd lose to Dallas, too.  The
only way the AFC has a chance as if Buffalo wins.  Buffalo would beat the
Cowboys and give the 49ers a good run for their money.  Other thought welcomed.
--Rob
From: krs@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Karl R. Stapelfeldt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Thank you Miami Dolphins !!!
Date: 10 Jan 1993 22:13:22 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
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    What a pleasant and unusual circumstance.  On my birthday, my
favorite football team wins their playoff game in convincing style.
I turned 31 years old today, and the Dolphins scored 31 points in my
honor.  What more can a fan ask for?

    Any other Dolfans have a birthday *next* Sunday? ...

                                      
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From: orummichaela@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: <None>
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:47:27 CST
Followup-To: viking feelings
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

I think the VIKINGS will be back on track in '93....They proved a lot of 
people wrong this season..even when all the major networks including ESPN 
was giving them NO CREDIT... They kept working hard and proved a lot to 
everyone by winning the CENTRAL DIVISION...

IT"S BUDS TO YOU CENTRAL CHAMPIONS...



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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:26:23 GMT

In article <C0JHuB.IGC@fang.att.com> bcd@fang.att.com (Brendan Dwyer) writes:
>From article <1993Jan6.171220.11800@pdn.paradyne.com>, by lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James):
>> Oh, Puh-LEASE!  There are no more frustrated fans in the NFL than
>> Buccaneer fans. Period.  But, hope springs eternal because we re-
>> member the Steeler fans who saw 40 years of frustration disappear
>> with one Immaculate Reception.
>
>I'm with Leo on this one.  Being a Buc fan I would be very happy to see
>them make it to the playoffs and lose, instead of being 3 and 1 at the 
>end of every September and ending up 5 and 11 at seasons end.  It's also
>frustrating to attend a Bucs home game and be in the minority.  Go to a 
>sporting goods store in central Florida and you can find merchandise for
>just about any team except the Bucs.  How many of you are look upon as
>a moron by family, friends and co-workers because you support the home
>team?  You people don't know what frustration is.
>
>Brendan Dwyer
>Bucs fan eventhough his mom calls him "Shit-for-brains".
>
Very, very, well said.  Thank you.
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From: ik@puffin.ctt.bellcore.com (Ik Su Yoo )
Subject: why I think the Eagles lost
Reply-To: Ik Su Yoo <ik@mobydick.leis.bellcore.com>
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:35:31


BTW, thanks for the clarification on the catch.

This is late in coming, but my 2 cents worth:

I think the Eagles lost because they have acquired Walker. Yes, because
they have Walker. Look what happened to Dallas, then Minnesota, while he
was there. IMHO, the guy was never serious about playing football, and even
once said that he wanted to join CIA or something like that. He was bad
news for Dallas and I was sorry to see Dorsette eventually get traded to
Denver. (I'm not sure whether there was a Walker-factor, though.)

Go (the renewed) Dallas Cowboys!
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From: barnes@cowboys.mfg.sgi.com (James Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:57:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1993Jan6.131408.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
writes:
|> For the regular readers of this newsgroup, some of you might remember
|> a couple a artilcles written intiled crap football, well it's back
|> after
|> a long absence.
|> American footballers are nothing but a bunch of pumped up junkies.To
|> call
|> it a sport is an injustice to all proper sports.It seems to me more of
|> a competition to see who can take the most steroids without killing 
|> themselves, or getting caught.Well actually the chance of getting
|> caught
|> is remote as the teams and the N.F.L seem to condone the the use of
|> these
|> drugs, and are doing little to stop it.
|> What's the punishment for being the best college footballer and getting
|> caught using drugs? You get a mult-million dollar contract for one of
|> the best teams in the country.Call me stupid, but it's hardly
|> a deterent.
|> It's time drugs abuse was stoped in football.Then again if
|> they did that there would'nt be any decent players left.Without drugs
|> your guys would'nt even get a game for a school rugby team over here.
|> American Football is a sport? for wimps, and poofs without the
|> commitment
|> to make it without drugs.
|> So chew on that you self-serving, arogant illigitimates.
|> 
|> Real men play soccer
|> 
|> Hamish


The second best thing about July 4th is that pre-season is just around
the corner..............

Dallas #1
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Another Mike for new Bears coach . . .
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:05:38 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.


Singletary! Wuddayathink?
From: rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles thrashed! Ha Ha Ha! Go Boyz!
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:48:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1is3hsINNaju@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker) writes:

> Come guys, 
> The Eagles had a good year, they accecepted the loss with class
> saying "We got our butts kicked".

...they used to losing, so I'm not surprised.......


Mark
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From: davewood@piper.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Winners from weeks 13-17
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:32:45 GMT


----------==========>>>>>>>>>>+++++**********+++++<<<<<<<<<<==========---------
             Congratulations to the winners of Weeks 13 through 17!
----------==========>>>>>>>>>>+++++**********+++++<<<<<<<<<<==========---------

Week 13 - 90 Points
-------------------
Rick Roitman
Matt Haines
Alex Canada
Brian Rouse
John Vikstrom
Eric G. Canada

Week 14 - 93 Points
-------------------
ambjorn axelsson
Jeffrey W Comer

Week 15 - 90 Points
-------------------
Vernon R. Blakes

Week 16 - 93 Points
-------------------
Mike Sager
Joe Sosa

Week 17 - 95 Points
-------------------
George Mansoor
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From: scott@ne3005.reston.ingr.com (Scott Gentry)
Subject: Re: More predictions
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Reston, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:02:32 GMT

mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:


>>SF has to face the #1 defense, Dallas doesn't.  

>Funny how Gordon didn't point out that Dallas has to face the #1 offense.

I think you know better than to stick to this dead horse.  Historically,
defenses dominate, offenses sputter.

>>Dallas can run on anyone.  

>That's what they were saying about the Deadskins two days ago.

The Cowboys have run well against the 'skins, too.

>>Dallas looked sharp, SF looked lethargic.  Barring injury it
>>should be a Dallas victory.

>It's really a shame you don't bet on these things.  (But I don't blame you.)

I'll bet you. :-)

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Subject: predictions
From: surf@netlink.cts.com (Tony Rosa)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:11:29 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

well 6-2 in the playoffs, but the two I lost were by 60 
points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8(

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From: nlatif@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Beagles back to Philly, will try again next year
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:09:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


As an Eagle fan, I'm very sad/depressed/mad about yesterday's outcome.  *sob*. 
Was that the same team that played NO a week b4??  Everything they did just 
went wrong. IMHO the  O line SUCKED!!!  But what's done is done. 

Anyways, I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate my team for 
still having a great season.  Better luck next year although the free agency
stuff might hurt the team.  I really hope that Reggie will stay and so will the
other guys (Waters, Joyner etc).  But we'll see about that. 
  
I hope the Niners would beat the Cowboys since I really hate the Cowboys. And
good luck to the other teams.  C ya.

GO EAGLES in 1993...!!!
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From: pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud)
Subject: Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFFALO!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:32:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.191522.2505@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) wr
ites:
>current score:  Oilers  35  Bills  3
>
>Moon and company are in total control of this game.
>Does anyone want a play by play?
>
>--
> ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com    --------
>"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
>everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller

I don't think she's singing quite yet.  Last I heard it was 35-31.  Had to 
leave though.  Stupid job :-(

Paul
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: A question for Eagle fans....
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:03:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan4.225207.23037@ntmtv> jmartin@ntmtv.UUCP (Jeff Martin) writes:
>
>Well Hype-week 3 is underway.
>
>Are these idiots representive of the Philidelphia media?  If
>so you have my sympathy. Ofcourse you give the people what
>they want. Have listeners to sports talk shows in any other
>cities heard this trash out of Philly.

I listen to WIP radio quite often during the season. The group
in the morning here from 6am-10am have spoken about the stuff you have been
talking about. They are just trying to hype ( if you want to call it that
way!!) the game up. According to them i believe emmitt smith was quoted 
saying "It is good andre waters got hurt" refering to him as a cheap shot.
so, these guys here are hyping it up saying that andre will show what cheap
shot is really going to be. Regarding my opinion, I dont think andre will 
play at all and it is just getting the people charged up for the game. 
Regarding aikman's stuff, I have not heard that kind of stuff at all.
With regards to smith's comments , they are trash talking about andre's war 
against emmitt. 
Looks like it is their way of setting up the classic rivalry between these
two cities.
One heck of a ball game coming up:

	Philadelphia:	24
	Dallas	    :	20

>Jeff Martin


-Rajeev
A Scrambling "Bring It Home For Jerome" Eagle Fan..
hey, vintage 1990 randall is back...
GO EAGLES....
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Date: 6 Jan 1993 15:03:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 3864@cbnewsc.cb.att.com, bermes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Terry Bermes) writes:
> 	So what makes this a dumbass statement?  Football IS an outdoor
> sport and it's being ruined by the domes (and artificial turf before
> that).


I agree,  however,  YOU sit in Soldier Field in the middle of Nov/Dec/Jan,
watching a game in 20 degree weather & a wind chill of -20.  Do it once &
you never will  again.  If the teams want to be only televised,  no problem,
but to fill 70,000 seats,   it must be somewhat bearable. 


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Chicago Loop District         | once you can fake that,  you have it made.
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From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:54:51 GMT
Subject: GIBBS 2-6 vs 49ERS
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

Unless I'm mistaken, Joe Gibbs has compiled a 2-6 record against the
49ers. His only wins were at RFK Stadium when they edged the 49ers by
a FG after two very controversial yellow flags on Wright and Lott in
the 1983 NFC Title game (Redskins subsequently lost SB to Raiders) and
in 1986 (I think) when Joe Montana started his 2nd game since he had
back surgery. Joe Gibbs has yet to defeat George Siefert's team and
that includes the pre-season game in England. Nor has Gibbs had any
luck beating 49ers at the 'stick. 

This time around the Redskins will be facing Ricky Watters and Steve
Young. Both players have had an excellent year although Watters was
injured in the Eagle game. Word is that he's healthy now and that
the 49ers are making good use of their weekend off. You'll note
that the 49ers rested several key players in Lions game on MNF.

I fully expect the 49ers to defeat the Redskins, but admit that the
Redskins could upset the 49ers. Guess it all depends on which team
*really* wants to win all the marbles. 

Cowboys expected to beat Eagles which should feature Cowboys at 49ers
in NFC Title game at 'stick. Just imagine, a rematch featuring all new
players (except for Montana) from the same teams exactly 11 years later
if 49ers and Cowboys win this weekend. 49ers are sick and tired of
hearing about how wonderful the Cowboys are. 

Chargers get my vote to beat Dolphins...they seem to be a team of
destiny at the moment. Steelers over Bills only because Bills played
such an outstanding and emotional game vs Oilers so they're expected
to be flat and besides Steelers have a much better defense than the
Oilers. Hope it'll be Steelers 4-0 vs 49ers 4-0 in Pasadena. If not,
then Chargers vs 49ers in California Bowl. :-) 

Personally, I think the NFL would like to see Steelers and 49ers in
Super Bowl as that'd give us two solid weeks of media hype over the
two 4-0 SB teams and would promote the hell out of that event. Will
the zebras cooperate? %^) 

Graeme Harrison
San Jose, CA
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Rooney Rule
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:15:05 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

Personally, although this rule really sucks for the Cowboys, I can see
why they put it in.

Actually, it may not affect the Cowboys that much, since they will
almost certainly lose Steve Beuerlein to free agency, and he is sure
to command at least a $1.5 million salary, maybe more.

I disagree with those who have been saying that Reggie White would be
bad for the Cowboys' defense.  He would be a great addition to anyone's
defense.  He is also a class act the whole way, a team player, just
what Johnson likes.  He would probably have to take less money to
play for Dallas, though; the question is whether he would be willing
to do that.

Daniel Welch
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