HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: exit
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:02:36 GMT
Reply-To: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec10.145114.3970@mcl.saic.com>, roths@mcl.saic.com writes:
>
>I am setting up an Ultrix machine that eventually will be going classified.
>I am wondering if someone might have a program, already approved by DISCO is
>preferred, that will overwrite a specified drive with the necessary meaning-
>less information.

I don't know who DISCO is, nor what their expectations are about declassifying
disks.  Some things to think about though...

It is VERY hard for a simple host program to erase blocks that have
been revectored/replaced.  While the typical user application might
consider such data corrupt, a person trying to steal information
may well be willing to take anything potentially interesting.

If the person trying to steal your old data is willing to try hard
enough, even overwriting with meanless information, may not be enough
to completely erase all trace of the old contents.  There may be some
cases where physical destruction (or strong magnetic fields) is the
only way to keep some people happy.

If "sufficient" passes of meaningless information is good enough, then
the revectored/replace block problem is the only hard one.  In that
case the formatter for the disk may be able to help.  Check with the
disk or controller vendor.
>
>I appreciate any help.
>
>Steve Roth
>
>
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Alan Rollow				alan@nabeth.cxo.dec.com
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From: aalto@phcu.helsinki.fi (Erkki '\\rkki' Aalto, University of Helsinki)
Subject: TPU for Ultrix?
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:26:24 GMT

Has anyone any experience on DEC's tpu-editor for Ultrix? We have been using
nu/TPU, but the old version is buggy and the new one is completely impossible.
Is DEC's editor good? Will it be available for Alpha/OSF/1, too?

Erkki Aalto

University of Helsinki

FINLAND
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: abstine@toy4x4.visix.com (Art Stine)
Subject: Xws unaligned access fixups in 4.3
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:20:30 GMT
Reply-To: abstine@visix.com
Organization: Visix Software Inc.
Followup-To: abstine@visix.com


Some time ago someone reported a problem with Xws logging
an excessive number of unaligned access fixups. Was there a
patch for this? 

also, i'm noticing alot of the same errors with dxmail
(unaligned access) but it dumps core when it gets them.

If anyone can give me some pointers to some patches, I would
really appreciate it.

Configuration:

DS5000/25
16M
426M disk
built-in framebuffer
Ultrix 4.3

-art stine
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor)
Subject: Re: Related note: was ``Ultrix ENHANCED vs "normal" UNIX passwords''
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:45:16 GMT

iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias) writes:
>If it's any consolation to you, using Sun's shadow password files doesn't
>work with NIS (YP) either.  There's a semi-good reason too:  why bother
>having shadow password files if anyone can use ypcat to get a copy of
>the file with the encrypted passwords in it?

It's no consolation :-). It apparently doesn't work anywhere, so you can't
say that if it did work, then you'd be able to get the encrypted passwords.
If I wrote it (I'm busy this afternoon, maybe tomorrow :-), ypcat passwd
would get you:

joe:*:10:20:Joe Blow:/usr/users/jblow:/dev/null

...not:

joe:123456789abcd:10:20:Joe Blow:/usr/users/jblow:/dev/null


-Mike
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.admin
From: cyclist@hubcap.clemson.edu (Barry Johnson)
Subject: SLIP help?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:35:56 GMT


Were are having some problems with SLIP.  Can anyone help?  

Here is the situation:  I running the dec supplied (but not supported)
SLIP on two Decstation 5000/240s with Telebit T2500 modems.  When I make
a connection using slattach, I get slattached and can ftp, telnet, or
whatever for about 10-20secs before it hangs.  I can here the drive hit
at about the same time the hang occurs so it sounds like some process on
the Master is doing it.  Have any of you come up against this problem?

Any ideas?  

Thanks...

Barry Johnson

-- 
Personal Theory:  Socks are the larval form of wire coat-hangers.
   
Barry Johnson, Clemson University, CTS.   cyclist@hubcap.clemson.edu   
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
From: john@iastate.edu (John Hascall)
Subject: Bug in Xws/HX-card?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:51:46 GMT

When using the "ARC" item of the xfig (v2.1) drawing program in certain
orientations (including 12,3,6 o'clock [see below]) the arc drawn on the
screen is badly misdrawn.  This occurs with the default line thickness
(thicker is ok), and the default zoom level (larger zoom is ok).
This occurs only on "HX" equipped DECstations (of all the kinds we have).
They are running Ultrix 4.2a.

This would appear to me to be either a bug in Xws or the HX card itself,
but I am wondering if any one else has seen this with something other
than xfig (or conversly, has seen xfig do this on some other system).

Thanks,
John
(Diagram below)

Clicking on 3 points to produce an arc:
should look like this:            looks like this:

        . 1                              . 1
          .                                .
            .                                .       (top half ok)
              .                                .
               .                                .
                . 2                              . 2
               .                              ...
              .                             ...      (bottom half disjoint
            .                           ...           and "too sharp")
          .
        . 3                                3

(well, more or less, subject to the vagaries of Ascii-diagrams)

-- 
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Systems Software Engineer
Project Vincent
Iowa State University Computation Center  +  Ames, IA  50011  +  515/294-9551
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: frank@croton.nyo.dec.com (Frank Wortner)
Subject: Re: man wanted
Reply-To: frank@nyo.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:37:16 GMT


In article <1992Dec14.151304.20151@bmw.mayo.edu>, stan@sabaac.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Andrew Staniszewski) writes:

|>I want the source files for man so I can add /usr/local/man to the defualt man
|>search path.
|>
|>anyone know where I could get them??
|>

If you have PERL, try pub/perl/scripts/man.shar.Z from convex.convex.com.
If you don't have PERL, try pub/sources/bsd-man.shar.Z from decuac.dec.com
or pub/unix/man-1.1.tar.Z from ftp.che.utexas.edu.

					Frank
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: ford@decatl.alf.dec.com (Jeff Ford)
Subject: Re: Background
Reply-To: ford@alf.dec.com (Jeff Ford)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:59:36 GMT


|>
|>Dear net,
|>
|>This should be straight forward. Is there an 
|>entry for a file such as .Xdefaults which can
|>display an image file as the background for a
|>users session. There was recently a posting
|>giving the resources
|>
|>*logoFile:
|>and
|>*logoFullScreen:
|>
|>the documentation to which I couldn't find
|>and so there may be other similar resources.
|>
|>I'm running on a DECstation 5000/200 with
|>Ultrix 4.2A.
|>
|>Thanks
|>Andy.
|>------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>Andrew Leason                       Department of Geography,
|>                                    University of Nottingham,
|>e-mail: lgzanl@uk.ac.nott.vax       United Kingdom.
|>
|>------------------------------------------------------------------------

*logo and *logoFullScreen are for changing the logo that is displayed
on the graphics screen when the workstation is waiting for someone to
log in. Right now, the logo displayed is the digital(tm) logo.

You will need to use another program to display graphics on the background
(root window). There are many available on the net: xv, xgif, etc... plus
there are other graphics programs that run on the root window: xneko,
xaquarium, etc.

I'm sure someone else here can point you toward sources and executables.

					- Jeff Ford/DEC Customer Support
From: tim@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Help with System message display
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:50:13 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Hi,

   I have just received a DECstation 2100 (used).  I am having some difficulty
in getting the machine configured they way I would like.  When I first received
the machine, system messages would be displayed in a "message" window.  I am
not sure what happened in the intervening time, but now they show up as large
black boxes on top of all windows.  I would like to get the messages back into
a display window.  I am hoping that someone can point me in the right
direction.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!!   

					Thanks for you help...

*******************************************************************************
Tim Rebnord                               tim@bvc.edu
System Analyst/Programmer                 (712) 749-2362
Stewart Siebens Computer Center
Buena Vista College                       You know what they say about 
Storm Lake, IA, USA  50588                           the best laid plans... 

Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli)
Subject: Re: non secure root login
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:16:52 GMT

In article <3497@accucx.cc.ruu.nl> henny@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Henny Bekker) writes:
>In <Bz7pxH.565@dscomsa.desy.de> sprute@dsf58a.desy.de (Lars Sprute) writes:
>
>Hello Lars,
>
>>I would like to login as root via telnet or LAT, but this, as the error message
>>says, requires a secure terminal. I'd like to circumvent that, but how ?
>>(My machine isn't that important, so I don't like the constraint of a secure
>>terminal.)
>>
>With Ultrix it is possible to have some distriction between "normal", secure
>and su-able terminals..
>For example some time ago I managed some student administration systems at
>the University of Utrecht.  On these (C2-enabled Ultrix systems) I created a
>special entry in the /etc/ttys file for one (1) LAT terminal which I enabled
>to use su. (You can also enable root login on it).  This port could only be
>used as LAT port (with a terminal-server or a PC with LAT software. This LAT
>port was connected by means of:
>	lcp -v <special-unknown-name>:/dev/tty?? \
>	    -V "Special entry"
>to a special LAT service.
>From my PC or terminal-server I could login on the systsem anb becore root..
>
There's a much easier way- just edit the file /etc/ttys.  In it you will
see a bunch of lines starting with "ttyp0", then "ttyp1", and so on.
Under the column labelled "status", add the word "secure".  Then you
will be able to telnet in as root.

-- 
Marc Fraioli
mfraioli@grebyn.com	        	(So I'm a minimalist...)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: Tom Davies <tomd@horse.demon.co.uk>
Subject: WANTED: Ultrix printer driver for LJIII
Organization: Wibble Wobblers Anonymous, Local #358
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:24:39 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A74ED3603F0108B0@horse.demon.co.uk>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
X-Xxdate: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:23:12 GMT

Can anyone point me in the direction of a printer driver for Ultrix which 
will allow landscape mode, and multiple pages per physical page printing 
on an HP laserjet 3?

Thanks in advance.

Tom
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: huober_r@hal.rz.uni-ulm.de (Reiner Huober)
Subject: German Keyboard and single user on DS5000/200
Organization: Universitaet Ulm
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:03:32 GMT

Hi netters,

we have DS5000/200 running Ultrix 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2, (CX graphics)
and german keyboards. In Rom Monitor mode (Prompt>>) the german keyboard
is recognized, also when running DECwindows (which is not a problem).

But in single user mode or when we start a getty on the console and
disable :0 in /etc/ttys, the german keyboard is not recognized.

Any solutions?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: dbruyne@reks.uia.ac.be (Karel De Bruyne)
Subject: compiled xview3
Organization: U.I.A.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:48:27 GMT

Hello,

I downloaded the file xview3-ultrix.4.2-mips.tar.Z from gatekeeper.dec.com
and wanted to install it, but I had problems with imake.

So far, I have never been able to install any software with imake.

The imake I have came from the ULTRIX 4.2a distribution-kit (UNSUPPORTED).

My previous version of xview came from a CDROM with PD-software
from DEC. It was completely compiled, and worked perfect.

Is there anyone who can tell me how I can make my imake run, or
where can I find the xview3-software installed (compiled) for my
DECstation (5000/120).

If someone can tell me where I can find some (ftp-able) documentation 
about how to install imake, that's also welcome.

Thanks,

Karel De Bruyne
Computer Centre
University of Antwerp (UIA)
Belgium
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UIA - Computer Centre			fax   	+ 32 3 820 22 49
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
From: mcc@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu (<-NIRVANA->)
Subject: DEC Demos
Organization: Graduate School and University Center, C.U.N.Y, New York
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:51:22 GMT

Hello folks,

I recently heard of some demos that DEC was using to seduce clients at
trade shows, including an alpine clock in the shape of a cat whose
eyes moved back and forth and whose tail was the pendulum.  Is this or
other demos available somewhere?  I've looked around gatekeeper to no
avail.  Has anyone else seen this stuff?

Thanks,

George McClintock
CUNY Graduate School
-- 
>> The opinions expressed are those of the author and in no way reflect the 
>> opinions or policies of the City University Graduate School, its 
>> agencies, or its personnel.  {:-(  mcc@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: vaf@Valinor.Stanford.EDU (Vince Fuller)
Subject: Re: syslog operations
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:55:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.033606.19166@csis.dit.csiro.au>, pierre@csis.dit.csiro.au (Peter Nikitser) writes:
|> I am trying to compile a set of C programs that use openlog and syslog calls.
|> Ultimately, I want to write the information from these calls into a certain
|> log file.
|> 
|> However, when I run the program, ALL information is logged into the mail log
|> file. /var/spool/mqueue/syslog, which I don't want!!!

The problem is that Ultrix syslog is still (after how many years...?) the same
old, brain-damaged 4.2 BSD version. If I'm not mistaken, there are instructions
in the FAQ for this group that explain how to get a 4.3-based syslog from
Gatekeeper and install it on your machine.

	--Vince
From: DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Swap area on Dec5000
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:49:54 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG (Dept. of Mechanical Engineering)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ifkvs2.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <18452@borg.cs.unc.edu> white@trantor.cs.unc.edu writes:

[...]
: Yes, it is pretty easy.  Edit /usr/sys/conf/mips/kernelname, changing
[...]
: to look like this:
: config          vmunix  root on rz0a  swap on rz0b and rz1b    dumps on rz0b 
: 
: Then execute
[rebuild kernel...]
: 
: You will also have to add a line like this to /etc/fstab:
: 
: /dev/rz1b::sw:1:1:ufs::
: 
Is it really necessary to both modify kernel and edit fstab?
I think CDROM says one or the other?
Hey gurus, please comment!


Thanks, Heribert (dahms@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: ralf@wilma.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Ralf Hirning)
Subject: Re: non secure root login
Reply-To: ralf@wilma.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Ralf Hirning)
Organization: ITAP University of Stuttgart
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:43:34 GMT

In article <Bz8KoH.M0B@world.std.com>, mbg@world.std.com (Megan B
Gentry) writes:
|> 
|> Why not log in using your normal account and then su to root?
|> 
|> 					Megan
|> 

This works only in pure BSD security mode, not in ENHANCED.

==================================================

Ralf Hirning ( ralf@itap.physik.uni-stuttgart.de )
ITAP
University of Stuttgart
Pfaffenwaldring 57 VI
D-7000 Stuttgart 80
Germany

==================================================
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: cannell@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com (Larry Cannell)
Subject: Re: DECnet-Internet Mail Gateway
Organization: Ford Motor Co., Powertrain Electronics
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:53:06 GMT

Ted Corning (kismet@trantor.cc.umb.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: 
:    I am wondering if there is a way to shorten the address of VMS users for
: mail going through the gateway. For example, the address user JOE on VMS node
: NODE1 is:  joe%node1.dnet@gateway.umb.edu. I would like to have this just be
: joe@node1.umb.edu instead, and still have it all work.
: 

If you have Ultrix machines check their sendmail.cf for a macro (and its rules)
which defines your decnet gateway.  It allows addresses in the normal decnet
syntax. It was part of the standard sendmail.cf with Ultirx and we use it all
of the time here.

--
Larry Cannell (cannell@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com)
Powertrain Electronics
Ford Motor Company
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: scowen@wfpc3.la.asu.edu (Paul A. Scowen)
Subject: Re: ultrix 4.2: chgrp/chown problems on an NFS client
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Arizona State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:43:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.160418.1@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca>, rick@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca writes:
|> system: ultrix 4.2A. server is a ds5000/240, clients are ds5000/20.
|> 
|> we've discovered what appears to be an anomaly with the use of chgrp
|> and/or chown to change the group on a file. this appears to work fine on 
|> a locally-attached disk, but not an NFS client. an example will show 
|> what i mean:
[stuff deleted]
|> now try the exact same thing on an NFS client:
|> 
|> elrod> ls -alg junk.txt
|> -rwx------  1 rick     staff         388 Oct 29 16:05 junk.txt*
|> elrod> /etc/chown rick.system junk.txt
|> chown: can't change ownership of junk.txt: Not owner
|> 
|> which isn't true, BUT:
|> 
|> elrod> ls -alg junk.txt
|> -rwx------  1 rick     system        388 Oct 29 16:05 junk.txt*
|> 
|>   it changes it anyway. but if i wait for a minute or two, it puts it
|> back the way it was, with no intervention from me:
|> 
|> elrod> ls -alg junk.txt
|> -rwx------  1 rick     staff         388 Oct 29 16:05 junk.txt*
|> 
|> 
|> is this something known? is there an easy fix?

Isn't this due to the two userid's being different on the two machines - and I
don't mean the login names but the numerical id's.  Since then the user rick
is not the same user on both machines, the local one and the host that has the
NFS disk physically mounted.  Or am I missing the point?

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From: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: how to log anonymous ftp users
Organization: Trent University, Ontario
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:51:36 GMT


Hello,

Maybe I missed something.  I can see host names of anonymous ftp
connections but not user names (ie: ident).  Can I log user names too,
gee I'd like that.

Thnaks in advance..
-- 
Ken Brown                                   internet: kbrown@trentu.ca
Trent University Computing & Telecommunications  tel: (705)748-1540
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada, K9J 7B8           fax: (705)748-1246
From: ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Modem setup - Ultrix 4.3/DECstation 5000/240
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:45:51 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <Bz1tv1.8Lv@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, tpitman@eniac.san.uc.edu (Tom Pitman) writes:
> 
> The modem is configured as follows:
>  
> USRobotics Courier 14400 HST Dual Standard Settings...
>  
>    &L0  &M4  &N0  &P0  &R1  &S0  &X0  &Y1  
>
> The problem that we're having is that the DTR keeps cycling up and down.
> It generally stays up for about 30 seconds, then down for about 30 seconds.
> (This isn't a huge problem, but for our incoming UUCP feeds, they sometimes
> have to redial up to 10 times to get connected.)
>
The difficulty here is that the modem is configured to keep DSR asserted.
With DSR always asserted, the modem control believes that there is a problem
with the modem (it didn't hang up when DTR dropped), so it keeps trying to
hang the modem up. Configure the modem for &S1 and things should work fine.
 
-- 

Roger Ivie                      "My God! That computer is full of Pentium!
ivie@cc.usu.edu                  It's a wonder that you haven't been turned
                                 into mutants!"
From: krajnakm@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Cant uncompress .tar.Z files downloaded to VMS nodes
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:15:52 -0800
Organization: GTE Govt. Systems, Electronics Def. Div.

BACKGROUND:

We don't have direct access to the internet for our Ultrix machines (yet) so
I have to do the follwing when ftping files:

Log into our remote gateway, a VMS node.

Use UCX$FTP/ULTRIX to connect to remote machines, usually unix boxes.

Set mode to BINARY and get the files (*.tar.Z and *.gif files), e.g.:

	ftp> set mode bin
	ftp> get somefile.tar.Z somefile_tar.z # remember the destination is
					       # a VMS node.

Do a VMS to VMS copy to our local VMS node:

	$ copy somefile_tar.z mynode"user passwd"::disk:[dir]

Use dcp to copy the files to the local Ultrix node (a DECstation 5000/200
running Ultrix 4.2A):

	% dcp mynode/user/passwd::'disk:[dir]somefile_tar.z' ./somefile.tar.Z

THE PROBLEM:

uncompress gives a "corrupted file" error when I attempt to go from a .tar.Z
to a .tar file:

	% uncompress somefile.tar.Z
	uncompress: corrupt input

A possibly related problem is that downloaded GIF files won't work with the
motifgif application, the error is "not in gif format".

Direct mail preferred

						THANKS!

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: Swap area on Dec5000
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:22:25

In article <foo> white@trantor.cs.unc.edu (Brian T. White) writes:
   Shaheen R Tonse writes:
   > A colleague tells me that it is useless to just make new b partitions and 
   > expect the system to know that they are available for swap area, unless 
   > one somehow re-compiles this information into the kernel.

	[instructions for adding a new swap space deleted]

One thing to be on the lookout for, is that some non-DEC disks (notably
our Fujitsu 1.3Gb drive) don't spin-up until the first access request
after a SCSI reset.  So the first access always fails.  The DECstation
doesn't like that -- the first access is usually the fledgling kernel
trying to figure out where it can swap, and it decides there isn't an
rz<n> when that first access fails -- basically you just can't swap to
one of 'em.  (unless someone's got a brilliant idea to get around the
problem without a source license...)







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