From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: more than 50% support TI
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:38:16 GMT

In article <C070nL.31n@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:

>   1. The conversation went on to the period when U.S. severed tie with
>Taiwan. Qian Fu expressed that when Albanian had
>a proposal in U.N. to give the China seat to PRC. Qian Fu went to Nixson for 
>insurance that U.S. will not resist Albanian's proposal. He got the verbal
>insurance. But finally U.S. did not use veto power to maitain Taiwan's seat.
>Qian Fu went Nixson to ask why. Nixson said it was George Bush's(U.N
>ambassador at the time) unauthorized personal decision, not the Nixson
>administtration's decison. Qian Fu BElIEVED IT! Then Qian Fu continued taht

Question: what is your evidence that Mr. Frederick Chien (that is his
preferred name to be used in English) believed it?  And what is your evidence
that Mr. Buckley even said it?  In any case, he wasn't even a high level
diplomat during the time of the Nixon administration.  (I hate to point out
spelling errors, but your errors are getting your post to the point of being
unreadable.)

>he latter on read a book wrotten by an U.S. official who served for Nixson 
>which revealed that it was deliberate action to decieve Taiwan from U.S.
>genuine
>intension with regard to the voting. One the show Qian Fu expressed his
>surprise and sadness. He is not a untrained layman, he had a Ph.D on America
>study. how could a nation have those kind gullable people to be a foreign
>minister, He is not qualified to be a diplomats. How it not let me think
>some thing wrong with Taiwan's phylosophcal flow in dealing with international
>issue, where vicious competetion grante any means for the interests of a
>nation.

Huh?  What is this supposed to mean?  Please write more clearly.  If he is
surprised and shocked, how does that make him unable to be a diplomat?

>The show stuck in silence, three U.S. participantes seems embarrassed. Mr.
>Buckley started to talk about Taiwan economic miracle, to turn the mode 
>around. your foreign minister has not sensitivity in conversation. interrupted
>Mr. Buckley, started talk about "hard woooooking". Then Mr.Buckley pointed
>out U.S.'s help with this regard.Qian Fu had now response.

Can someone translate this into more readable prose?  What is this supposed to
mean?  "Your foreign minister has not sensitivity in conversation."  Hmmm.
This sounds like a suggestion that Chien and Buckley are sexually involved.
:-)

But let's say, for the moment, that you are right.  The Taiwanese government
is greatly manipulated by Buckley and other American officials.  That still
doesn't mean that the American government will back Taiwan during a military
confrontation.  You have come up with no, nil, zilch evidence to indicate that
the Taiwanese government is backed militarily by the United States.  And you
proceed to continue to say that if Beijing attacks Taiwan, it will be the
"confrontation of the East and the West," since those Evil Western Imperialist
Powers (tm) will be behind the Brainless Puppet-like Taiwanese Government (tm).

Amazing.  Apparently, you are even more naive and/or stupid and/or unwilling
to think than the Serbs under Slobodan Milosevic.
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