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From: Terry.Gendreau@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Gendreau)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: apple to ibm conversi
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:09:00 -0800

SF> Straight text files should be able to be migrated between Apple and
M
SF>Systems.. Worse comes to worse hook the two machines up together via
SF>modems and file transfer between them.
SF>
SF>Steve

A lot of the older spreadsheets used or were able to import/export DIF
files and there are still some MS programs that can import the DIF
format.
It might take some looking, look towards the OOLLDDer programs for the
MS
machines, once imported, the MS pgm should be able to save/export in a
format that is compatible with a current pgm. The DB programs will be
about the same, tho I don't think that there were that many different
formats avail for the Apple side......T.

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From: James.Campbell@f145.n150.z1.fidonet.org (James Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: NYS colored light law changed
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:55:40 -0800

DS> A few days ago, I made the statement that out-of-state vehicles
 DS> being used in New York had to have colored flashers removed or
 DS> covered.
 
 DS> "...Now, such a light may be fastened to the car (but not lit),
 DS> provided the light and its use on that vehicle comply with the
laws
 DS> of the state in which the car is registered."
 
      Most other states have the above statement, I kind of figured
this
      was the case.
 
      Thanks for posting this information.
 
 ---
    SMRead 3.0  #?    
 
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From: Michael.Seneco@f536.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Seneco)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Monroe County OEC shutdown?!?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:14:00 -0800

 -=> Quoting Steve Collins to Michael Sperber <=-

 SC> Not the case at all, as explained above. Professional public
safety
 SC> communications operators and managers made reasonable and logical
 SC> decisions to deal with a difficult situation. 

        Very true Steven. The public has a very strange perception of 
        what 9-1-1 is for. I often enjoy calls from persons making
        complaints by dialing 9-1-1. They want there complaints to be 
        annonymous. With all the publicity about Enhanced 9-1-1 here
        in Connecticut, you think they would figure it out.

 SC> Two years ago, during the ice storm that incapacitated a large part
of
 SC> Western New York for two weeks, the same 911 center was inundated
with
 SC> people demanding to know when their electricity would be restored.
 SC> Since this is not a 911 problem, the public was finally advised not
to
 SC> call 911 for things which should be rightfully handled by the
local
 SC> power companies. 


        How many calls do you get about the cable TV being out. Our
        seven digit emergency number is close to the Cable TV Repair
line.
        We can always tell when cable is out. Either someone calls and
        screams, or we get a bizillion hang ups. 


 SC> As many folks in this echo who work in public safety
communications
 SC> can tell you, situations like this are not uncommon, and there are
 SC> backup plans already worked out for them. 

        Also very true Steve. Without backup plans, you can be in big
trouble.
        I have answered 9-1-1 for tiwns over 45 minutes from me because
of
        a Haz-Mat incident. I have had a Haz-Mat incident in the parking
lot
        of the Comm Center. We have a notebook ready to go at a moments
notice.
        If we have to evacuate, we grab the book, and take it with us.
It's got
        the trunk numbers and other important data in it so we can order
the
        transfer from outside the building. Also, the center in the
next
        town has a copy of it, so they can do it for us if we can't, or
to
        expedite, and we have there info as well for vice versa.

        The public can rest assured that 9-1-1 will not fail them...

        Michael Seneco


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From: David.Stark@f322.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (David Stark)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: WANTED
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 16:51:00 -0800

 > I am looking for a low band moble raido that can transmit and receve
 > 47.42 meg (the National Red Cross Channel) i am the chairperson for
 > the Red cross disaster in the bronx.  Any make or model will do

    National Red Cross has supplier contracts for almost anything you
would need for disaster communications.   I believe the designated
supplier for low band is Ritron.  You should contact National for info.

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From: Walter.Alexander@f1.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Alexander)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: ARRAKIS PUBLISHING
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:53:40 -0800

Thanks Richard. I would like very much to see your demo. If you could
send it to me via    Firefighter Alexander C-3
             Kennedy Space Center Fire/Rescue             
             P.O. Box 21267 BOC-322
             Kennedy Space Center, FL 32815

Make sure the address is exact because it has to go thought an on base
mail system. Make sure you mark it software so they won't scan it..
        Thanks again..



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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:44:25 EST
From:         Howard Berkis - CC28 <CC28@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      EMS related software & computer use

Once again I am making a plea to all those EMS providers who utilize
a computer (all those that can read this message) as to what
purposeful things you do with the computer, and via what means of
software to run your organizations

Thanx in advance.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Berkis, EMT, AHA BCLS Instructor
Spring Hill VAC
PO Box 6
Spring Valley, NY 10977
CC28@Iona on BitNet...Internet Coming Soon (...or so they say)
PS  You can't spell MESs withous EMS
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From: Howard.Berkis.-.cc28@f102.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Howard Berkis - cc28)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: NO DOCS FOR NYC EMS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:31:00 -0800


If, in the opinion of the ems team (emt or emt-p), the online
medical control physician, and the responding ems supervisor the
patient is incapable of caring for him/herself, and their is no one
else available to provide competent such care, the decision is made
btw ems and PD (not at the field level) to take the pateint into
protective custidity of the city - in which case ems will x-port

For more info...send to me directly I will give you the actual
procedure as per the NYC EMS operationg guide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Berkis, EMT, AHA BCLS Instructor
Spring Hill VAC
PO Box 6
Spring Valley, NY 10977
CC28@Iona on BitNet...Internet Coming Soon (...or so they say)
PS  You can't spell MESs withous EMS
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From: Richard.Shankman@f53.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Shankman)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: APPLE TO IBM CONVERSION
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:17:00 -0800

ES>WE NEED INFORMATION CONCERNING CONVERTING APPLE FILES TO IBM
COMPATABLE FILE
ES>OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT SECRETARY HAS BEEN USING AN APPLE
COMPUTER WIT
ES>APPLE-WORKS SOFTWARE TO CREATE SPEADSHEET, DATABASE AND
WORDPROCESSING FILES
ES>OUR DEPARTMENT IS PURCHASING AN IBM COMPATABLE COMPUTER AND WANT TO
BE ABLE
ES>IMPORT OR READ THE APPLE FILES.  ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE ANY IDEAS OR
ES>SUGGESTIONS??

A quick and easy way, at least for the documents is to save them as
ascii files, and send them via modem to the new machine.

It may also work for your db and spreadsheets.

Good luck


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From: Warren.Chou@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Card keys
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:33:00 -0800

-> We have a cardkey system at our squad and it works very well. It is
m
-> secure then a key pad system, since you can just de-program a card
-> number of someone you don't want to let into the building. I do
sugge
-> that you also have one installed on your office door right from the
-> start. Then you will have better control of who can get in there
with
-> the worry of keys. There are several systems available and each one
-> works about the same. The most important thing to look for is
service
-> Will the company you buy from make a service call in the middle of
th
-> night? If not, look at another company. EMS is not a 9 - 5 job and
-> access to the building is very imortant. A few tricks I've learned
ov
-> the past few years since we got the system is to make sure you set
th
-> If you get a nasty surge, the reader heads will go crazy and you'll
b
-> locked out. Make sure the door can also be operated with a key and
-> give them to the officers just in case you can't get in.
->                                 Bob

With all the worry about power surges and doors locking before you get
in, just what is the advantage between card keys and standard brass
keys?  I mean, if you're worried about an unauthorized person getting
in, just take their key away.  Or set the door locks so that they can
only be opened when using a key.
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From: Walt.Young@f710.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Walt Young)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: APPLE TO IBM CONVERSION
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 00:45:00 -0800

 Ed Schellhase said to ALL:
 
 ES>WE NEED INFORMATION CONCERNING CONVERTING APPLE FILES TO IBM
COMPATABLE
 ES>FILES.
 ES>OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT SECRETARY HAS BEEN USING AN APPLE
COMPUTER
 ES>WITH APPLE-WORKS SOFTWARE TO CREATE SPEADSHEET, DATABASE AND
WORDPROCESSING
 ES>FILES.  OUR DEPARTMENT IS PURCHASING AN IBM COMPATABLE COMPUTER AND
WANT
 ES>TO BE ABLE TO IMPORT OR READ THE APPLE FILES.  ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE
ANY
 ES>IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS??
 
 
 One step further....what about a program that will go both
 ways...i.e., IBM to Apple   and   Apple to IBM.
 
 My daughter teaches in middle school and while they are loaded
 with computers they are all Apples  and I have an IBM.
 
 We have a need to exchange information on disks.  I gave her
 copies of my info but she can't use it.  (BTW she is out of
 town).
 
 Thanks for any info.
 
   Walt
 
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From: David.Stark@f322.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (David Stark)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: media
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:04:44 -0800

 >         A simple question comes to mind--Where do they get the
 > information from? If it isn't from the experts isn't it time that
 > someone made them aware of where they made the mistakes and where
they
 > can come for the information. Of course they must feel welcome to

    You are forgetting that news people do not publish EVERYTHING they
are told.  Only the parts that sound interesting and/or can be squeezed
into so many lines of a newspaper or so many seconds of air time.

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: dougy@xvt.com (Doug Young)
Subject: Re: Osha Regs. A Question
Organization: XVT Software Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:04:45 GMT
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message are those of an
	individual at XVT Software Inc., and do not necessarily
	reflect those of the company.

In article <728036780.AA36247@remote.halcyon.com> Richard.Edwards@f108.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Edwards) writes:
>I would be very interested to know more about this. Is this if we a
>called into their district or if we call them into ours or does it work
>both ways. Also what can the consequences be concerning this. I hope
>this doesn't open up a can of worms but this is the first time that I
>have heard of this. I was under the impression that we were only liable
>if the mutual aid companies were in our district. Any other information
>would be greatly appreciated.

I don't know about OSHA compliance per se, but I do know a little bit about
mutual aid agreements and liability.

Background: Our volunteer department is in Boulder County in Colorado.
Rather than signing mutual aid agreements with every other department
in the county, the county came up with one true mutual aid agreement
that each department signs once, and it subsequently agrees to respond
to any other department requesting mutual aid from them.

The Fine Print: Apparently, CRS (Colorado Revised Statutes) dictate
that if the Responding Department commits a tortious act (Does a Bad
Thing) while providing mutual aid at the request of the Requesting
Department, the Requesting Department is liable for dammages. However,
our particular mutual aid agreement specifically calls this out and
supercedes it by saying that in this situation, the Responding
Department will indemnify and hold harmless the Requesting Department
(the Responding Department is liable for damages).

What It Means: OUR PARTICULAR AGREEMENT is set up that the Responding
Department must cover it's own ass. YOUR ACTUAL MILEAGE MAY VARY, and
it's worth checking into, especially if you have a dictionary of common
legal terms on hand. My intuition tells me that the CRS is probably
pretty close to uniform code, and your state's law may therefore be
similar. Even so, be mindful of any mutual aid agreements that may
supercede local or state law.

-dougy
Sunshine VFD

Doug Young         XVT Software Inc., P.O. Box 18750, Boulder, CO 80308
dougy@xvt.com      303.443.4223 / 303.443.0969 (fax)
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:11:22 EST
From:         Howard Berkis - CC28 <CC28@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      EMS Software

I know I've been harping on the subject of computers and ems, looking
for info. so please bare with me, I may have a solution.

A good friend of mine is a professional programmer (me, I'm just an
amatuer), and he has agreed to develop some software for me with my
help.

I have one problem...what to put on the data base.

Things I have come up with so far:
Name,address,phone,pager, etc.
Unit Number
Date Joined,
Date Terminated
Equipment Issued
CPR,EMT,etc. numbers, and expiration dates (includes all types of certs)
Office's currently held.
Notes of Merit or demerit (We are a VAC, ie. commendations or
suspesnions).
DOB
Driver License Number (Insurance Purposes)

Can anyone else think of stuff to add?  Or other uses, other then
billing, payroll, and rig maintenance.

thanx in advance

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Berkis, EMT, AHA BCLS Instructor
Spring Hill VAC
PO Box 6
Spring Valley, NY 10977
CC28@Iona on BitNet...Internet Coming Soon (...or so they say)
PS  You can't spell MESs withous EMS
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From: Jeff.Meunier@f126.n323.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Meunier)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Shift scheduler lives!!!!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:19:00 -0800

GW> On 13 Jan 93 at 15:01, John Blackard of 1:151/102 wrote:           
   
GW>                                                                    
   
GW>  > I wanted to let you know that the Shift Scheduler calendar      
   
GW>  > program has been improved and a new copy is on the way to       
   
GW>  > you.  I am also including a demo copy for you to load on your   
   
GW>  > BBS for others to benefit from.  The program will accept all    
   
GW>  > the original shift schedules plus a new feature which allows    
   
GW>  > the user to enter a custom schedule.  It will print in          
   
GW>  > calendar form the work schedule letter by the date and          
   
GW>  > highlight the user specified shift.                             
   


Could you let me know where I may get a copy of this? I work for a
municipal Reacue service and wwould really like to try this and to see
what it has to offer


Please let me know!!!


My address is:
        Jeff Meunier
    c/o Cumberland Rescue
        1512 Mendon Road
        Cumberland, RI 02864

Thanks in advance
JAM
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From: Howard.Berkis.-.cc28@f102.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Howard Berkis - cc28)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: APPLE TO IBM CONVERSION
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:55:00 -0800


This is a little tedious but it works.

First, convert all apple works files to ascii text files and save
them as such.

Next obtain a null modem cable and card for your apple //e, the cable
should plug into the serial port of your ibm.

Next load up a null modem transfer program on the apple and ibm
and start x-fering the files.

Another solution is to do it via modem...its alot slower but it may
be easier to obtain the hardware and software for the apple.  Note
in either case you must save your apple files as ascii file prior
to x-fer.

once the files are on the ibm - any decent spreadsheet, word pro., etc
will be able to read ascii files...some manipulation of the data may
still be necessary but it beats retyping it all.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Berkis, EMT, AHA BCLS Instructor
Spring Hill VAC
PO Box 6
Spring Valley, NY 10977
CC28@Iona on BitNet...Internet Coming Soon (...or so they say)
PS  You can't spell MESs withous EMS
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From: trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Frequencies
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:09:58 GMT
Organization: ASCI

>>>>> "Madison" == Madison County Fire Dept. You Light 'Em We Fight
>>>>> 'Em! <STUECRWN@EKU.BITNET> writes:

Madison>   I'm looking for some information on Radio Frequencies for
Madison> Fire, EMS, and Police Departments in certain areas. I'm going
Madison> to be traveling from Richmond Kentucky to Greenport Long
Madison> Island, New York. I was looking for some frequencies for
Madison> Washington DC, Baltimore MD, Wilmington DE, Chaleston WV,
Madison> Huntington WV, abd some others that you all might think of.
Madison> I'm also looking for State Police Frequencies for WV, VA, MD,
Madison> DE, NJ (and NJ Turnpike), and New York. If anyone can help me
Madison> out I'd greatly appreciate it. Please mail me directly to

Note that it is generally illegal to have a scanner in your vehicle that
can receive police/public service frequencies, usually with an exception
for Amateur Radio Operators.  The law varies from state to state.

Bob
From: Jim.Henthorn@f1044.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Henthorn)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Bbs List
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 19:29:01 -0800

On 01-16-93, David Stark said to Chuck Sanders and I quote:

DS> >    How about it?  Anyone able to make a list of the origin and or
DS> > seen-bys so that Jim Henthorn can include it in his BBS list.
DS> 
DS>I have a program called ORIGX set up on my system.  Normally I purge

DS>all echos on a daily basis.  Lemme accumulate the stuff for a couple
of 
DS>days and I'll put the results up here as a message.

I appreciate the help.  If you want, I'll poll for it, or you can post
it, 
or netmail them.  What ever suits you.  I would like to ask, though, if

the program "ORIGX" will run against a Hudson Message Base style system?
 
If it's a Hudson, I'd appreciate getting a copy as well.

                                -Jim-

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From: Pcrelay@f702.n278.z1.fidonet.org (Pcrelay)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Undeliverable mail
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:18:00 -0800

Send the files via a null modem transfer (Apple->IBM)

There's a few shareware programs out there that will convert Apple txt
files
to WP, etc. and I believe there are also programs for appleworks
translation.

-dave

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: myersj@aix.rpi.edu (Jeffrey William Myers)
Subject: Re: Fire & EMS Clipart
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:01:12 GMT

Howard,
   I don't know how to send messages between internet and bit net.  What
disk format do you need and how many and I'll mail them to the address in your
post.
   Thanks!

Jeff Myers
NYS AEMT-Intermediate
From: Todd.Hockert@f6.n288.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Hockert)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: MOTOROLA VHF MOB
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 12:43:37 -0800

 >> Motorola Radius M-100 VHF mobile radio:
 >>         140MHz - 160MHz capability

This would appear to able to receive in the 140 to 160 Mhz range. The
frequency you were asking about 33.900  would not be in this range.
 

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From: Glenn.Matthews@f34.n371.z1.fidonet.org (Glenn Matthews)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: FT. Myers area EMS
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 04:42:00 -0800

I forgot to see where you are from, don't matter.  I'm employed by the
Florida State Fire Marshal's Office.  I do have occassion to meet with
EMS and Fire and Local law enforcement officials from time to time.  To
the best of my knowledge there is no proviate EMS.  EMS is operated by
the county, thru EOC. They are all Paramedics and a very good crew if I
can say that.  They are assigned at different areas thru the county
(i.e. Fire Stations, small old garages etc.).  It seems that there are
openings there more often than anything else in the fields you
mentioned.  Salary - I think, don't hold me on this starts around 19 or
20 a year.  Yes the wages here are really LOW.  We moved here from
Nevada, and had a rough go of it at first.  My wife runs her own boat
charter business, and she makes way much more than I do, but it's not
steady (can't count on a monthly salary).  So I stay with the State for
the benefits and the salary is about 26 annually.   I run a charter boat
on the weekends and during the evenings in the summer.
The Lee County Sheriff will most likely being hiring in the next few
weeks, thats all I know right now.
We live on Pine Island in St. James City.  I have close friends that
live in the Cape.
I will also keep my eyes open for ya.......keep in touch.


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