HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vdp@mayo.edu (Vinayak Dutt)
Subject: Re: SlingShot 2.0 is here
Reply-To: vdp@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation/Mayo Graduate School :Rochester, MN
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:10:20 GMT

In article 6608@den.mmc.com, doehr@magellan.den.mmc.com (Brett B. Doehr) writes:
:In article <lh0lhgINN5eg@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, brianw@ark.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Warkentine) writes:
:|> 
:|> I am proud to announce the release of The SlingShot Extensions to XView
:|> version 2.0. 
:
:I couldn't see anything in the announcement that indicated what
:version of XView SlingShot 2.0 is based upon.  Could you please
:clarify this?  The wording above might imply that the Extensions
:are to XView version 2.0, but I assumed from the subject that the
:2.0 referred to the version of SlingShot.

I ftp'd SlingShot and it refers to XView version 3.0.

--- Vinayak.
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From: sdl@cs.bham.ac.uk (Simon D Levitt)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Panel_Lists (again)
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:46:32 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

Hi all,

  I've just come across another problem with my resizable panel_list, This
  problem relates to the length of the item string. The panel_list will
  not shrink smaller than the length of the longest string in the list,
  and hence the scrollbar moves off the edge of the window. Is there an
  easy way to stop this happening? (I want my scrollbar back!). 
  Open Windows mailtool V3 does it... the item string seems to be of
  infinite length!...

Thanx again for any help,

Simon.,
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Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: Q: How to display kanji in TEXTSW?
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:28:13 GMT

kloeck@research.nj.nec.com (Erwin Klock) writes:
>Is it possible to display kanji in a TEXTSW, and if so, how.

Yes, if you installed JLE also.  I like 'less -r filename'.

>I can install the kanji font allright but I can only access
>the usual ascii characters. How do I access the two byte characters?

If all you want to do is display kanji, you can get kterm.  If you want to
input kanji, you're probably better off installing JLE, you have to really
know what you're doing to hunt down and build the available input and
conversion software.

-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: ctan@solomon.technet.sg (Tan Chee Weei)
Subject: Q: xv_init when server not running
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:00:57 GMT


Xview applications need to call xv_init to parse the xview related command 
line arguments before the application parses its own specific arguments.
What if the application is basically a character based application which can
be used in non-X environments and only uses a GUI front end when a certain
application specific option is specified? Basically I want my application
to be able to invoke xv_init at the start but not die and core dump on me
when xv_init discovers that there is no X-server running but instead 
continue operating which is fine because it possibly isn't required to
invoke its GUI. How can I accomplish this? Thanks/

CW
From: johnc@murray.bu.edu (John Collins)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Problems with XV_KEY_DATA
Keywords: XV_KEY_DATA, XImage
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:04:04 GMT
Organization: Boston University

I have a problem with XV_KEY_DATA.  My application creates a canvas
with an XV_KEY_DATA field named CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY.  A button callback
procedure (new_ximage()) changes the CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY by calling a
routine called make_canvas_ximage() (which returns an XImage *).  This
is the code:

void
new_ximage(item, event)
Panel_item item;
Event  *event;
{
   Xv_xrectlist xrectlist;
   Rect   *rect;
   XImage *xim;

   /* First remove the old ximage key. */
   xv_set(canvas, XV_KEY_DATA_REMOVE, CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY);

   /* Get the new XImage and attach it to the canvas. */
   xv_set(canvas, XV_KEY_DATA, CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY, make_canvas_ximage() );

   /* redisplay */
   ...
}

The wierd thing about this code is that sometimes it goes off without a
hitch, and sometimes it makes the program crash.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, as I have a deadline to meet.

Thanks-
John Colins
Xref: sparky alt.toolkits.xview:1071 comp.windows.open-look:4566 comp.windows.x:19300
From: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
Subject: japanese compilation: undefined symbols
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:28:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: mr.1992Nov18.172813.7096
Reply-To: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI

i have a xview program that runs correctly under openwindows v3 in 
the usa. when it is compiled on a machine in japan the 
following symbols are undefined:

    cc -02 -I/usr/openwin/include   -target sun4 main.o driver.o ......
    Undefined
    _cm_close
    _cm_put
    _cm_open
    __des_crypt

why won't the code load in japan?
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GE Medical Systems	   Fax: 414-521-6549
P.O. Box 414, W-875	   Internet: crawfordc@med.ge.com
Milwaukee, WI 53201
From: rickg@eng.sun.com (Richard M. Goldstein)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: Printing from within an Xview program
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:43:43 GMT
Reply-To: rickg@eng.sun.com
Organization: SunSoft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: irondude
In-reply-to: francis@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch's message of Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:39:49 GMT


   Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
   From: francis@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (Demierre F.,85L2,x3503)
   Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
   Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:39:49 GMT


   My conclusion is that it is OK to use system() if the shell command is fast 
   to complete. An lpr command falls into this category.


well, for one thing, using system() in an XView program is
definitly not OK if you are attempting to do any signal
handing through the notifier...


<<tank
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	Richard M. "Tank" Goldstein		rickg@Eng.Sun.COM
	Window Developer Environment,
	SunSoft, Inc.

	"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind
	of person I'm preaching to"

				-"Bob" in Newsweek

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Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
From: larettin@eos.ncsu.edu (Leigh Anne Rettinger)
Subject: Internationalized XView: Need referenced document
Originator: larettin@screamer.ece.ncsu.edu
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:49:04 GMT

  I am preparing to use Internationalized XView to port an 
  existing application to a new language.  I have the programming
  manual for Internationalized XView.  This document makes 
  reference to another document:

     UniForum Messaging Proposal Update for POSIX.1b (1003.1b),
     UniForum Technical Subcommitte on Internationalization

  I would like to get a copy of this document.  Anyone know how 
  I can contact UniForum?  I really need to figure out how this
  stuff works because I am also (hopefully) going to port this
  application to the MS Windows environment, and will not have
  the luxury of having X handle the language stuff for me!

  Thanks!

  Leigh Anne
  larettin@eos.ncsu.edu
 
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: lydia@leland.Stanford.EDU (a Itoi)
Subject: Help controlling frame colors
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:55:21 GMT


I need some advice on controlling frame colors:

Having very little knowledge about XVIEW I am confronted with the problem of
controlling the frame colors (frame, frame-title, buttons, button-titles, etc.)
while I run an application that requires me to set up the full color map.  It
seems that the frame colors can only be controlled if I reserve four of the 256
colormap entries for XVIEW to use for the frame.  I would be perfectly happy if
I could make the frames created by my application point to known entries in my
dynamic (user defined) colormap; but I DO need to specify all 256 colors of the
map (I can't give four colors back to XVIEW to control).  I don't even
particulary care what colors the frames become, as long as they are readable
(currently, I can't predict whether they'll fall within the gray-scale portion
of my colormap and be useless).  Any tricks/solutions would be much appreciated.

Don't reply to this this account, as I have no net access and the friend of a
friend who is posting this for me has probably never even heard of XVIEW.
Either post responses and I'll try to check the group, or (preferably) send
email to rickc@etak.com (or do both).  Thanks for any tips.

- Rick

Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: ctan@solomon.technet.sg (Tan Chee Weei)
Subject: Q: Correct way to handle resources?
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:54:19 GMT


Can anyone enlighten me on the correct way to query for resources (that the
user may have specified in his .Xdefaults file) ?

I've seen the use of the defaults_ functions to look for defined (or default)
values of resources. They each requires a name class pair. What the O'Reilly
book doesn't explain is the format of the name and class strings. Assume I
have a subframe in my application and I want to allow the user to specify
in his .Xdefaults file its geometry. First, is it possible to allow them
to specify it in WxH+X+Y format? If so, does it mean the application is
responsible for parsing the value? Is there a function that can extract
geometry values from strings of this format? Assuming the application
requires a resource for each value. Let the name of the application be
xapp. My subframe is referred to as a subframe subobject. I want the
user to specify the value for the x location value of the subframe as:

xapp.subframe.x: 0

Now, what I want to know is:

1) In the name string, what must I specify to name the resource? Do I say
"xapp.subframe.x" (which I know works) or can I say "subframe.x"? Do
I have to explicitly name the name of the application as part of the
resource name or would the defaults function be smart enough to know
to look for the resources for those beginning with xapp or *?

2) What does the user say in the .Xdefaults file to set the x and y position
of the base frame? Initially, I set the base frame's x-y value explictly
but I realised that xv_main_loop() resets these values. What should the
user specify in the .Xdefaults file to specify the base frame's x-y 
values? 

3) If I were to get the x-y values in 2) above via my own defined resources:
eg. xapp.main.x and xapp.main.y, what can I do in my application to
set it so that the values used by xv_main_loop are those I want them to be?

Any other pointers to other sources of information on this subject are also
much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

CW
From: rickg@eng.sun.com (Richard M. Goldstein)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: Problems with XV_KEY_DATA
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:15:23 GMT
Reply-To: rickg@eng.sun.com
Organization: SunSoft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: irondude
In-reply-to: johnc@murray.bu.edu's message of 17 Nov 92 16:04:04 GMT


   From: johnc@murray.bu.edu (John Collins)
   Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
   Date: 17 Nov 92 16:04:04 GMT
   Organization: Boston University

   I have a problem with XV_KEY_DATA.  My application creates a canvas
   with an XV_KEY_DATA field named CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY.  A button callback
   procedure (new_ximage()) changes the CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY by calling a
   routine called make_canvas_ximage() (which returns an XImage *).  This
   is the code:

   void
   new_ximage(item, event)
   Panel_item item;
   Event  *event;
   {
      Xv_xrectlist xrectlist;
      Rect   *rect;
      XImage *xim;

      /* First remove the old ximage key. */
      xv_set(canvas, XV_KEY_DATA_REMOVE, CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY);

      /* Get the new XImage and attach it to the canvas. */
      xv_set(canvas, XV_KEY_DATA, CANVAS_XIMAGE_KEY, make_canvas_ximage() );

      /* redisplay */
      ...
   }

   The wierd thing about this code is that sometimes it goes off without a
   hitch, and sometimes it makes the program crash.


NULL terminating your xv_set calls may help 8^)'


<<tank
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	Richard M. "Tank" Goldstein		rickg@Eng.Sun.COM
	Window Developer Environment,
	SunSoft, Inc.

	"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind
	of person I'm preaching to"

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Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
From: py4@dspy42. (JP McNeely)
Subject: Re: File Saver
Reply-To: py4@dspy42.
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:56:25 GMT

In article 41A@cs.bham.ac.uk, jwh@mother.sodor (James "Oolon Colluphid" Hawtin) writes:
> There is a file saver sub window for xview I saw this used on xvnews. This is written by sun but is usable in any program does anyone know where I can obtain the toolkit this is in. + any docs on how to use it ..... I have the source for xvnews but this of course does not explain how to use the file saver......
> 
> 
> 		Thanks
> 
> 				James.


The file saver you speak of comes with the libraries provide by DEVGUIDE, a Sun GUI builder.


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Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
From: rene@hamel.uucp (Rene Mueller)
Subject: Re: japanese compilation: undefined symbols 
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:12:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.172813.7096@mr.med.ge.com>, carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford) writes:
|> i have a xview program that runs correctly under openwindows v3 in 
|> the usa. when it is compiled on a machine in japan the 
|> following symbols are undefined:
|> 
|>     cc -02 -I/usr/openwin/include   -target sun4 main.o driver.o ......
|>     Undefined
|>     _cm_close
|>     _cm_put
|>     _cm_open
|>     __des_crypt
|> 
|> why won't the code load in japan?
|> --
|> Carl R. Crawford	   Voice: 414-521-6572
|> GE Medical Systems	   Fax: 414-521-6549
|> P.O. Box 414, W-875	   Internet: crawfordc@med.ge.com
|> Milwaukee, WI 53201	   
Some includefiles and some libraries aren't allowed in other countries than USA!!
These includes those libraries which includes __des_crypt...
The other symbols.. I didn't have seen them here (germany), but it should be the
same problem.
The ONLY solution:
use other funktions
BUT ONLY FOR NOT USA!!!!!
The libraries not included in other countries were libraries for encryption!

	Rene
From: vdp@mayo.edu (Vinayak Dutt)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: File Saver
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:21:45 GMT
Reply-To: vdp@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation/Mayo Graduate School :Rochester, MN

In article 41A@cs.bham.ac.uk, jwh@mother.sodor (James "Oolon Colluphid" Hawtin) writes:
:There is a file saver sub window for xview I saw this used on xvnews. This is written by sun but is usable in any program does anyone know where I can obtain the toolkit this is in. + any docs on how to use it ..... I have the source for xvnews but this of course does not explain how to use the file saver......

This file saver is a part of the libraries supplied with DevGuide. In fact Sun gives the
source code of it along with the DevGuide software.  If you can get DevGuide, then you
can get the source code and manuals explaining these functions.
In my communication with some Sun people on net, only reason that FileChooser,
ColorChooser and other such utlities of DevGuide
not being with XView 3.0 distribution is that DevGuide people have to design the code
after XView code has been frozen for distribution. 
From the nettalk, it seems these DevGuide FileChooser/ColorChooser etc codes will
be distributed in future XView releases.


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            Medical Sciences Building (2)   Mayo Clinic
                                     Rochester MN 55905
                                   e-mail: vdp@mayo.edu
				      FAX: 507-284-4705
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"I think that I think, therefore I think that I am."
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Newsgroups: alt.war
From: jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb)
Subject: Re: How do I win the medal of honor????????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:40:11 GMT


>In article <92322.000934U37426@uicvm.uic.edu> <U37426@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>Well ........how do I???????????


>More often then not, death is a pre-requisite.
>I will post the military qualifications for it in a few days when i have
>the book with me again.
>Drew

Start a war first.



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for President | decide?" 			| Midnight Arrow
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States in '96 | for you?"	   -Ayn Rand 	| (jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.war
From: CLF@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Christopher L Frame)
Subject: Re: Powered Body Armor
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:17:52 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <84010@ut-emx.uucp> wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:

> In article <BxnFDr.GJC@news.chalmers.se> d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:
> ]In article <Uf0bywu00iV4029adc@andrew.cmu.edu> js43+@andrew.cmu.edu (James William Stepanek) writes:
> ]>City fighting would also bee a good use,
> ]>considering that they would act as very small light tanks, and be
> ]>(hopefully) proof from sniper fire.
> ]
> ]  The trouble is that snipers nowadays also use RPG-s and rifle grenades as 
> ]seen on the Balkans and in the Caucasus. I don't think it is possible to make a
> ]powered body armour that is RPG-proof, and since RPG-s and similar are 
> ]peanuts in comparision to the probably hideously expensive power armours...
> 
> True, but then snipers w/o power armors are very fragile to 20mm HE....
> This assumes that the PA has good sensors and manages to spot the sniper
> in time. Also, if the PA has thrusters for long hops/short flights it might
> be able to get out of the way of a rocket fired from all but very short range.
> 

	Problem with a "jump" system is duration of flight.  The systems that
have been produced and tested (someone demonstrated one to President Kennedy)
are not that good, because the can only be used for REALLY short jumps - like
30 seconds or maybe a minute.  And with the extra weight of combat armor the
flight time would be reduced.  Have to work on it.


> You also might consider that main battle tanks would be higher priority 
> targets for missile sniper teams than powered armor units. MBTs are hideously
> expensive to PA units.
> 
> My preference, of course, would be for larger units like Mobile Suits or 
> BattleMechs. But those are a *long* way off (dammit).
> 

	Not so.  Have you ever seen the T-Rex car crusher?  It is on the order
of the size of a Battlemech and is powered by one or two diesel engines.  They
use it to crush cars at auto sporting events.  Actually making a Battlemech 
would be EASIER than constructing a human sized combat armor powered suit.  Of
course the expense would be great and its utility as a weapon of war would be
limited, because it is such a big target.
                                        

Christopher SS Frame
General Armaments
Newsgroups: alt.war
From: massengale_m@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Advice on medal for WWII vet
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:38:05 GMT

Hello!

I would like some advice on obtaining a medal for a veteran.

My father was a captain in the 442nd regiment in WWII.  He received a Bronze
Star and an Italian decoration (sorry, I don't remember the name).  He was
also entitled to at least one Purple Heart, but he never picked it up, saying
that his wounds were minimal and that being wounded wasn't a good reason for
for winning a medal.

I would like to obtain the medal, since I have collected his military things
and this would complete a nice collection.  I do not have his discharge papers,
though, and I understand that WWII records were wiped out in a fire.

One possibility is to write to Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, a decorated
vet from the same regiment.  I do not have an address for him either in
Hawaii or DC.  

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Melanie O. Massengale

Newsgroups: alt.war
From: leeman@daimi.aau.dk (Steen Lehmann)
Subject: Re: Great Wall of China
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 10:54:57 GMT

dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:

>   How effective was the Great Wall of China? I don't know much about the
>history of the area, so I don't know how well it did what it was supposed,
>or even what it was supposed to do.

I read someplace that its function was not so much to repel the attackers, 
but to make sure they didn't get away with very much loot. I can't provide
the sources, I'm afraid, but I think it makes good sense.

Steen.




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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 00:09:07 CST
From: <U11679@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.war
Subject: AIRLAND BATTLE

I am an Infantry First Lieutenant in A Co., 1-178 INF and would like to corresp
ond with other military personnel on the principles of AIRLAND BATTLE.  I encou
rage responses from individuals of any branch or rank.
Newsgroups: alt.war
From: magnus@bark-fddi.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad)
Subject: Re: Women in Combat
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: UVBS -> SFK/T-DSA / SOPS - HOS / RNoN
	<1992Nov11.205408.9168@news.columbia.edu>
	<1992Nov13.151432.16140@inel.gov> <101869@bu.edu>
	<1992Nov16.151908.7591@inel.gov> <1992Nov17.13416.19397@ms.uky.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20:15:22 GMT

I'm serving in the Royal Navy of Norway.

We do have females, even on subs. I know of at least two. They are
both on Ula class subs, on which there is somewhat more privacy (hah)
than on the older Kobben class subs (modified Type 208).

-Magnus