Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 18:30:04 EST
From: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
Reply-To: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
Subject: GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 12
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In this issue:
                 FYI: March On Washington EMAIL address
                               Bob Mould
                           AIDS redefinition
                                  Yay!
                   Greetings From DELPHI's Gay Forum
                         Greeting the President
                         CALLING TUFTS ALUMNI!

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Subject: FYI: March On Washington EMAIL address
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:34:35 EST
From: Ron Buckmire <buckmr@rpi.edu>

The March On Washington Steering Committee has hooked up to the Internet and
can be reached at mow@glib.org.



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RON BUCKMIRE
Association for the Prevention of the Sale of Clothing to Richard Grieco
11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 93 15:54:08 EST
From: DLJACK01@ukpr.uky.edu
Subject:      Bob Mould

Since I don't remember seeing ex-Husker Du band member Bob Mould's name on the
list of living (?) people who are out, I'd like to append that list and include
 him now.
You too need to append your list; take out your little black magic marker and
add him now.

Mould has released two solo albums since the breakup of the Minneapolis-based
Husker Du; they are 1989's _Workbook_ and 1990's _Black_Sheets_of_Rain_.
Perhaps some of the more attuned among you can remember the video Mould did for
his song "It's Too Late," in which the post-punk, pop noise guru wore outright
a South Carolina gamecocks T-shirt, only to use the now-famous AIDS Coalition
to Unleash Power slogan "Silence=Death" motto at the end of the song's MTV
video.

For those who read _The_Advocate_, make sure to go back and read Barry Walters's
"Into the Groove" column from November 3 (issue 615) called "Sugar Walls" if you
missed it the first time.  In it, Walters correctly unravels some otherwise-
baffling lyrics behind a song on a new album by Mould and his recently formed
group, Sugar.

The song in question is "The Slim," whose words I reprint here, without
permission, alas, so you too can see the master lyricist at work:

                                   The Slim

DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING
DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'VE BEEN
IS IT SIMPLE IS IT SIMPLE
THE CHANCES SEEMED SO SLIM
IN A CLOUD IS IT CLOUDY
YOU'VE CLOUDED UP AGAIN
YOUR PERCEPTION YOUR DECISION
YOUR DECISION

BEHIND I'M LEFT BEHIND
LEFT BEHIND I'M LEFT BEHIND
IT'S A MATTER OF TIME
YOUR PROTECTION FROM EJECTION
MY REJECTION
PROTECTION FROM THE SLIDE
PROJECTION FROM A SLIDE

DID IT ALL SEEM SO EASY
SO EASY TO CONCEDE
GIVING IN GIVING IN
THE CHANCES SEEMED SO SLIM
IN A MOMENT JUST A MOMENT
I FELT YOU RUSHING IN
YOU WERE RUSHING I AM CRUSHING
YOUR RUSH TO CRUISE THIS

I'M LEFT BEHIND
LEFT BEHIND I'M LEFT BEHIND
IT'S A MATTER OF TIME
YOUR PROTECTION FROM EJECTION
MY REJECTION
PROTECTION FROM THE SLIDE
PROJECTION FROM A SLIDE

I WITH YOU BREATH ON MY PILLOW
I WITH THE MEMORY
I GET TO WAIT IT OUT NEVER PUT IT AWAY
WHEN YOU LEFT WITH YOUR DEATH
I FEEL EMPTY WHEN I LOOK BACK
ON MY PILLOW WHAT YOU USED TO SAY
WHAT YOU USED TO SAY

I WITH YOU BREATH ON MY PILLOW
I WITH THE MEMORY
I GET TO WAIT
IT OUT NEVER PUT IT AWAY
WHEN YOU LEFT WITH YOUR DEATH
I FELT ANGER WHEN I LOOKED BACK
ON MY PILLOW WHAT YOU USED TO SAY
WHAT YOU USED TO SAY

I FELT YOUR BREATH FOR A MOMENT
I HEARD YOUR VOICE FOR A MOMENT
THEN I LOOKED BACK
ON MY PILLOW WHAT YOU USED TO SAY
WHAT WE USED TO SAY
THAT THE CHANCES SEEMED SO SLIM
THE CHANCES USED TO BE SO SLIM

NOW I SWIM ALONE
THE SLIM
ALONE

TO HONOR AND OBEY
TO CHERISH TO WORSHIP
IN SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH
FOR RICHER FOR POORER FOR ANYTHING
TILL DEATH DO US PART

Of the truly good albums released since 1990, I can think only of The Pet Shop
Boys' 1990 _Behaviour_ with its many references to the AIDS epidemic as being
tantamount to _Copper_Blue_ in the relevance and tunefulness of its many
messages to our community.

You can never know how good "The Slim" really is, despite my reprinting here the
poignant story of one man's understandable anxiety over the possibility of being
infected with HIV from his now-dead lover, until you go hear it yourself; but
do more than listen to this song, my friends.  _Spin_ magazine called
_Copper_Blue_ the sixth best album of 1992; _The_Chicago_Tribune_ qualified the
CD with "Explosive," and Barry Walters called the album "fabulous." I implore
you to support Mould and his mates and buy _Copper_Blue_ today.  I guarantee you
won't be disappointed with the purchase.  In my opinion, of all the other albums
put out this year only REM's _Automatic_for_the_People_ and Peter Gabriel's _Us_
 can touch
_Copper_Blue_'s mastery.

Someone's writing a song about AIDS doesn't make him Queer, but make no mistake
about it, Mould is Gay.  The evidence is outlined in Walters's article, which
cites Mould's shunning of gender-specific pronouns in his songs and how in a
prior interview with _The_Advocate_ Mould refused to say he wasn't Queer when
he could have as strong indications of the lyricist's true sexual orientation.
Too, there is this proof:  When Walters formerly asked Bob if he were Queer,
Mould said, "I'm sure you can guess from the way I've avoided answering that
question what the truth is." Can there be any doubt that Mould isn't Queer?

What's in store for Sugar?  Mould and fellow bandmates David Barbe (the ex-
Mercyland bassist) and ex-Zulus drummer Malcolm Travis have a new album called
_Beaster_ due out shortly before next Easter.  No kidding.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: AIDS redefinition
Distribution: local
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:10:23 GMT

Jonathan.D.Meyers@Dartmouth.EDU writes:

>Hi, I am desperately searching for updated statistics on AIDS cases in the
>U.S. after the case redefinition.  I would especially love a breakdown by
>race, gender, mode of transmission, etc.  I can't seem to find anything like
>this from the CDC.  Please sned any citations or just possibilities directly
>to me so as not to clog up the net.

How about getting on the AIDS-stat mailing list at
 <aids-stat-request@wubios.wustl.edu>
 Or the Sci.Med.Aids newsgroup (mailing list at aids-request@cs.ucla.edu).


-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ``D.C. in 93!''
uunet!rpi.edu!buckmr||buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet||buckmr@rpi.edu||+1 518 276 8910
"An informed community is a strong community.'' Cindy Freedman of THIS WAY OUT

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:22:10 -0700 (MST)
From: WERLING <awerling@nmsu.edu>
Subject: Yay!
Mime-Version: 1.0

Just a quick note to thank you for your hard work at getting GayNet back up!

Andrew Werling   awerling@nmsu.edu   yip@acca.nmsu.edu
"Books are burning/ I hope somehow, this will allow/ A phoenix up from the
			flames"
					---XTC

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Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:44:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael - Host of IN FULL VIEW - Delphi's Gay Forum <NOT2@delphi.com>
Subject: Greetings From DELPHI's Gay Forum
Mime-Version: 1.0

  FROM:     NOT2  (not2@delphi.com)
  TO:       GayNet Digest
  DATE:     Jan. 23,93   18:03 GNT
  SUBJECT:  Greeting from DELPHI's Gay Forum



    Hello All,

    My name is Michael (NOT2) and I run the gay forum on Delphi. On behalf
of all 500 members and myself, we are glad GayNet is back! I started
publishing GayNet Digest on this forum's message board January 1st.

   About myself: Living in New Jersey, I joined Delphi in April '91. Started
IN FULL VIEW (gay forum's name) about Sept.'91.  Organized a gay ski weekend
trip for members of the gay forum. Only one member shows up for the event,
who's from North Carolina, named Ken. We emjoyed the ski weekend and each
other. Desided to start a long distance relationship and invest $7,000 in
USAir. On November 1,92 I tie the knot and move in with him! And we are
"happy ever after"!

   This weekend marks the one year anniversiry of the ski weekend trip, where
Ken and I first met! Saturday, January 25,1992. So you see, marriage does
happen via computer and modem!

   If anyone wants to join IN FULL VIEW or sign up for Delphi, just send
me E-mail.


           Internet Address: not2@delphi.com

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Subject: Greeting the President
From: rodney@oxy.edu (Rodney J. Hoffman)
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:27:36 PST

In even a very limited sampling, I can say that we seemed to be quite
well-represented in the crowds lined up to greet the Clintons and Gores
at Thursday's White House Open House.

As I was getting dressed Thursday, C-SPAN was showing the receiving line,
and seemed to have President Clinton miked.  Mostly, it was endless
repetition of "Glad to see you... Thank you... Where are you from?...", etc.

Occasionally, the people in line would say more than a perfunctory "Good
luck, I'm glad you're here."  In the short time I was listening, I heard
three lesbians greet Clinton.  The first told him,  "When I got the notice
[that I had been selected by lottery to greet you], I was so excited!  I
wanted to call and tell my mother, but I couldn't because she hasn't spoken
to me in 3 years because I'm a lesbian."  She closed with something like,
"I hope you can help change those kinds of attitudes."  The next woman in
line appeared to be her lover, and also said something gay-positive.  A short
time later, there was this exchange with another woman in line:

   Woman:    "Don't forget the gays!"
   Clinton:  "I won't!"
   Woman:    "Thank you!"

It was great hearing all this!

  -- Rodney Hoffman
     rodney@oxy.edu

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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 93 18:00:57 EST
From: Jaime Weinberg <WEINBERJ%GUVM.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      CALLING TUFTS ALUMNI!

TUFTS UNIVERSITY QUEER ALUMNI, MARK YOUR CALENDARS!

The PRIDE ON THE HILL FOUNDATION, an independent, non-profit endowment
foundation to benefit Queer members of the Tufts Community, will be
holding a NATIONAL REUNION of Queer Tufts alumni and our friends as
part of the events surrounding the National March on Washington.

We are *extremely excited about the prospect of seeing our old friends
as well as of meeting Jumbo Queers from across the nation and the
generations.

The hard details have not yet been worked out, but we do know that it
will be held on Saturday evening, April 24 in the glamourous "Thoroughbred
Room" at the Washington Hilton near Dupont Circle-- the queer center of
the mid-Atlantic states!

Tickets will be $25 ($10 for current Tufts students) and all proceeds
will go to the foundation.

We sure hope you can make it!  AND tell other Tufts Queers about us!
Even if you can't come, be sure to add your name and address to the
Foundation mailing list by emailing me (WEINBERJ@GUVM) or by calling
D.C. coordinator  Wayne Hoffman or Jere Halligan at (202) 483-2025.

For more information about the NATIONAL REUNION in Washington or about
the Pride on the Hill Foundation, call (202) 483-2025.

- Jaime Weinberg (WEINBERJ@GUVM)

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