HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dak@bnr.ca (Darren Keyes)
Subject: Re: Halo 
Organization: bnr
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:13:22 GMT

In article <0PHiPB2w165w@angus.mi.org> thx1138@angus.mi.org writes:
>
>Yeah, Mr. Maddox, 
>
>   Someone wrote "why don't the bookstores around my area stock your
>   book".  I've looked for it too, to no avail.  You might want to 
> 
>   remind your publishers that if people don't get exposed to the book
>   then no one
>   no one is going to buy it!  There's at least two here on the net (me
>   and that other guy).  Who knows how many others?!?
>
>   (Sorry about the hideous line noise, folks...) 
>
>
>THX
>
	When I first came across a bit about someone accusing
(suggesting?) that Mr. Maddox is other than that whom he claimed to
be, I had a friend contact a friend at our science/speculative fiction
book store here at Canada's Capital. You see, I recognized the name
from this genre, but couldn't recall what works he'd done. The book
store also recognized the name but didn't have any books by Mr.
Maddox (isn't it funny how everyone is calling him Mr. Maddox - can
we call you Tom?). So we too cannot find his works. I haven't yet 
tried the mainstream book stores, however. What book(s) has he
(or you if you are he) written????

Wood.
From: damian+@pitt.edu (Liquid Cooled Spherical Imaging)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: CP Music?
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:39:23 GMT
Organization: RaveReaction CandyLoop Clothing

Todd Sines (tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) asks about himself :

[blather deleted]

>what does this make me?

ANSWER : A *big* weenie      


Love,
dieselBoy
:p
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: sjc@moose.uvm.edu (Steve Cavrak)
Subject: Mondo 2000: R. U. Sirius
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:40:08 GMT


Taken from "Computer NewsLink" newsletter, Waldenbooks, Summer
1992,

----------------------------------------------------------------

Is this man serious?

R.U.Sirius and co-author Queen Mu have put together the
definitive guide to the cyberpunk universe. Who is Sirius? And
is he? For that matter, what exactly is the cyberpunk universe?
"COMPUTER NEWSLINK" decided to find out.

-----

"Mondo 2000", a glossy, high-tech magazine, has caught the
attention of tens of thousands of computer hackers, cyberpunks,
sci-fi devotees, and those who keep track of emerging trends.

...

[ Mondo 2000: A User's Guide to the New Edge ] is something of
an introductory course on Mondo - Mondo 101, if you will. It
also includes the "Mondo Shopping Mall," a catalog of products
on "the leading edge of the technological and cultural
movements" that Mondo 2000, the magazine, reports on. Featured
productsinclude everything from virtual reality machines and
videotapes to cryogenic suspension labs and intelligence drugs.
The catalog includes addresses and telephone numbers for readers
unable to find these products at their local department store.


...
Steve
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ibacon@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Ian Bacon)
Subject: cyber space game machines
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:44:33 GMT

I have heard about cyberspace games machines. Does anyone know where I
could get some information about them? Where they come from, cost etc.

thanks in advance.
From: cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: It's not cyberpuunk, nyah nyah
Date: 22 Aug 92 10:06:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <8RHTPB2w165w@angus.mi.org> thx1138@angus.mi.org writes:
>Christian Wagner, 
>  God, I swore I would avoid these "what is and is not cyberpunk"
>  arguments but I really thought that Hardware deserved to be 
>  included in the genre. 

Um, "THX", I agreed with you when you said that Hardware was CP. I just said
that it was CP for reasons other than those you stated. 

Sorry if I wasn't real clear......

-- 
    "Well, do you ever get the feeling that the Story's too damn real
                        and in the present tense?"
               Christian Wagner - cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: guimpier@irit.irit.fr (jean-luc GUIMPIER)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: the rest of Abend
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:45:25 GMT
Organization: IRIT-UPS, Toulouse, France

hi all,
can anyone give me more information about the 4 part beginning of the novel _Abend_ that was posted in July. It started interestingly and I would like to read the whole story. Where can I find it ?
Thanks in advance,
JLG.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: Neil A Haldar <nhaldar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Movie: Hardware... is it cp?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:47:32 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I just saw the Movie _hardware_ for the 3rd time, and realized it had some 
pretty neat cp-elements... like the underground culture, the idea of selling 
scrap metal found in the "zones" to various dealers, etc...

Anyone else with thoughts on this?

*>  Neil Haldar     Columbus, Ohio     nhaldar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
*>  neilh@well.sf.ca.us     or AmericaOnline: NeilH [Aaol.com
*>  "She was a blonde... the kind of blonde a bishop would kick in stained
*>   glass windows for"  -Unknown
From: fore@athena.cs.uga.edu (Howard Fore)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: 'Sneakers'...
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:07:56 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug12.154547.1937@cis.umassd.edu> acsbk@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>
>	There is a movie comming out soon called 'sneakers' that seems
>to involve the NSA, codebreaking, cracking and 'The Ultimate Code'
>of some sort. It is due out soon. Anybody seen the trailer?
>	It seems to be set in 1992/3.
>
>	Bret.


Yeah, though I don't remember exactly who is in it. It seems to be some deal
where a group of "Private Security Consultants" (read real snoopy high tech
PI's) get caught up working for the NSA because they get blackmailed into.
Either they do the cracking the NSA/Govt. wants or the NSA will expose all
the improprieties/slightly/very illegal things the group has done in the
past and, until now, have gotten away with.

There is some fairly decent work on the credits. All the text appears first as
real words, but they don't make much sense strung together. Then, seconds
later, the letters scramble and form the real text. I thought it was highly
appropriate given the context of the movie.

Howard Fore   fore@athena.cs.uga.edu
"Check your conscience and your wallet at the door"
		 - "High and Mighty Living", Caroline Aiken
From: cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: So exactly what is this group about?
Keywords: flame flame flame flame flame flame flame
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:45:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <713995222.F00005@csource.oz.au> Adrian.Scott@p2.f158.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Adrian Scott) writes:
>To: frank@i1.msi.umn.edu (Loren Frank)
>LF>Hello. As you probably guessed from the title, I am new to this
>LF>group, and
>LF>I was curious to know exactly what this group discusses. (I read
>LF>a number of
>LF>articles but deriving some consistent theme was beyond me....)
>Well is supposed to be based on the Role playing game "CyberPunk" I think, or
>the Deep dark future? I would like this question answered too.. teheh cya

[FLAME MODE ENGAGED]

And the word for today, kiddies, is "Clueless"! Can you say, "clueless" boys
and girls?

> * Origin: -/\-: RAVENLOFT - RPG DEDICATED BBS :-/\- (3:633/158.2)
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gods, don't you -love- gated FidoNet? You get so many mature, well-thought out
articles from it......

Scary thought; do you think that FidoNet has this newsgroup gated as some kind
of roleplaying "bboard"? Would explain quite a few of the posts that have shown
up lately....

If there's anything I -despise-, it's teenage schmucks who got their entire 
concept of "cyberpunk" from the intros of various RPG's. 

-- 
    "Well, do you ever get the feeling that the Story's too damn real
                        and in the present tense?"
               Christian Wagner - cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:59:14 EDT
From: <JPE1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Linguistic/conceptual interferance

  The limits of my language are the limits of my world.

                                   - Wittgenstein
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (hawkeye)
Subject: Re: sonic yth==cp music??
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 03:42:29 GMT

In article <199214.735.3712@channel1> "eliot gelwan"
<eliot.gelwan@channel1.com> writes: 

|Sonic Youth have been called (e.g. here in this newsgroup, in
|postings about "CP Music") the quintessential CP band. I just

Really?  I must've missed those...

|gave 'em a listen. What's so special about them? What's so CP?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^On Mtv perhaps?? :)  
	   		   For the first time ever they're getting some decent
	   		 	    airplay.....

As far as getting anal about cp definitions goes, I wouldn't call 'em
cyberpunk...Punk if you were born in the mid-70's and also consider
Nirvana punk....And about as cyber as Morrissey...

|Their tunes, playing and lyrics seem no different from many other
|bands. Ho hum.

They're important tho, because they've been arround throughout the
80's, way the hell before grunge shit became more popular than Andy
Warhol...Might be the quintessential band for alt.thrash or
alt.skateboard or whatever, tho....

|...eliot                                         |
|Internet: eliot.gelwan@channel1.com             -*-
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|--
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I watch Channel 0....:)


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From: dak@bnr.ca (Darren Keyes)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Halo
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:34:55 GMT
Organization: bnr

>>
>	When I first came across a bit about someone accusing
>(suggesting?) that Mr. Maddox is other than that whom he claimed to
>be, I had a friend contact a friend at our science/speculative fiction
>book store here at Canada's Capital. You see, I recognized the name
>from this genre, but couldn't recall what works he'd done. The book
>store also recognized the name but didn't have any books by Mr.
>Maddox (isn't it funny how everyone is calling him Mr. Maddox - can
>we call you Tom?). So we too cannot find his works. I haven't yet 
>tried the mainstream book stores, however. What book(s) has he
>(or you if you are he) written????
>
>Wood.
>
	Ah, one should never post a response until one has read all
other responses to that article. I think I've got it now.
_Halo_ is the name of the first SF book by Tom Maddox. Have I got it
right? Have you written anything else that may be floating about, like
short stories or essays etc. Perhaps I recognize his/your name from the
late Isaac Asimov's Sci-fi mag a few years ago??? I think that's it. 

Wood.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik)
Subject: Re: present state of technology
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:29:23 GMT

u921470@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Anthony Chan) writes:

>Hi

>I would just like to know how far the world really is with virtual 
>technology.

You should be reading alt.cyberspace and sci.virtual-worlds. Also
scan your local bookstore/newstand, there's plenty of books and
magazine articles on VR...

	-Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik)
Subject: Re: Latest Mondo 2000
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:30:27 GMT

doom@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner) writes:

>There's definitely a need for a cyberpunk Ciarcia... someone
>who actually *builds* their weird little ideas, to act as an
>inspiration for the rest of us. 

Watch this space for details on ordering videotapes of my
mini-SRL-ripoff concept wherein I 'attach' hamsters [SQUEEK]
to motorized/windup toys spraypainted with rust and drive 'em
around a blood'n'dirty engine oil-covered BTECH terrain littered
with blackened chicken bones and with pools of sublimating CO2
and burning gasoline all to a blaring and distorted but original
industrial-gothic soundtrack.

	-Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Latest Mondo 2000
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:28:12 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

doom@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner) writes:
: kekims@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Ken Kindler) writes:
: 
: >	Hmm, have you read their little statement about unsolicited submissions
: >that is thrown somewhere on the credits page? It says something to the effect
: >that all unsolicited submissions are taken out and burned under the full moon.
: >You may want to contact them before you send anything in....
: 
: No, I'd forgotten about that.  Sorry to hear it, actually...
: I've always thought that editors that don't read their own
: slush piles were lazy and irresponsbile... but what else
: would you expect from R.U., anyway?  

Actually, he's not the editor, he's the publisher.  Andrew whatsisname
is the editor.  I don't know if he reads the manuscripts or not.


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             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   dante!mason@hop.toad.com
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: kca@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Van Oast)
Subject: cyberpunk satellite transmissions from alien beings?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:03:52 EDT
Organization: UnderWorld Industries 001

help here, or email would be cool.  swing those dishes!
-jon   kca@caen.engin.umich.edu   uwi001
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: acsbk@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: 'Sneakers'...
Reply-To: acsbk@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:45:47 GMT

	There is a movie comming out soon called 'sneakers' that seems
to involve the NSA, codebreaking, cracking and 'The Ultimate Code'
of some sort. It is due out soon. Anybody seen the trailer?
	It seems to be set in 1992/3.

	Bret.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: Mister Maddox
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:18:21 GMT

thx1138@angus.mi.org (Scott Abfalter) writes:


>Actually, Tom Maddox is an insideous virus unleashed on the internet
>to keep the alt.cyberpunk discussion going....

Incorrect.  Mr Tom Maddox is infact an experimental AI set up by the US
government, to bring out computer crackers worldwide.

The real Mr Maddox (designer of this awesome machine, hidden in the Nevada
desert (ever wonder why phone calls to and from there are so clear?)) is
at present incarcerated somewhere in the Pentagon - occasionally writing
books for a genre known as Cyberpunk.  In his spare time he works on 
fixing TMX's (code name for the AI) previous model WGB ( commonly known
as William Gibson, to world of hackers who believe neuromancer isnt a 
slightly fictionalised autobiography).

hook

'Always shoot them in the knee ... second.
 It makes it look like you shot them there first, and they kept coming.'
From: bliss32@terapin.com (Geoff Schmidt)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Ender's Game
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:39:05 GMT
Organization: BBS

ABout Ender's Game, in the 2nd and 3rd book in the series (Speaker for the
Dead, and Xenocide respectively) Card does deal with a living AI, in fact he
makes an interesting idea of cyber space itself in Xenocide.

 bliss
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: cygnus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Marshall Robin)
Subject: Re: Garish flashing LED's
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:33:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.061738.5432@src.umd.edu> tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
>In article <B0VcPB2w165w@angus.mi.org> thx1138@angus.mi.org writes:
>
>Then, of course, there is the definition of geeky.  Is a NetRunner geeky
>for carrying a cyberdeck everywhere he/she goes?  Is a VR progger geeky
>cause he/she spends all day in a fake reality?
>

IMHO, geeky is spending too much time worrying about what other people
consider geeky. Do what you want, and if other people consider it geeky,
the hell with them.

For example, I tend to consider techno music "geeky" because to me it
sounds awkward and technophilic, which I think gets in the way of the
music. But for other people, techno may speak to them on some basic level,
and they may enjoy it greatly. Does this mean they are "geeks"? I don't think
so, it simply means I can't appreciate techno music.

-marsh

no flame wars on techno please, i just chose it as an example.

--
Marshall Robin    /\ one thousand miles an hour
cygnus@wpi.wpi.edu /\ i'm just like anyone
gweep with attitude /\ i want to feel
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\ the road of tar beneath the wheel
                      /\ named extinction
From:  (MY BRAIN HERTZ)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Mondo 2000: R. U. Sirius
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:23:17 GMT
Organization: THE LUMINOUS ETHER

In article <295kPB1w165w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us>, wce@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Bill Eichman) writes:
[...]
> Where can this file you mention be found?
> 
> I guess it depends on which side of the "tech-ownership" gap you end up 
> falling into. But I'd predict that they'll be many hundred or thousand 
> technopeasents for every person freed into "transhuman" status.... Our 
> society has been organized in pyramidal power structures for 6000 plus
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> years-- it's an ingrained tendency, now, and the new slaves are waiting 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in the wings.
[...]
> Later, Bill
> 
> 
Sadly, this is so.  But perhaps with nanotechnology this could change.  
One of the presidents of Autodesk said that this would represent the 
triumph of intellect over capital.  I found his speech in an anonymous ftp
archive at planchet.rutgers.edu in the directories /nanotech/papers .  The 
Foresight Institute is interested in fostering public awareness of Nanotech 
and other technologies.  Time for a public debate that represents *all* 
concerns.
You can email them at foresight@cup.portal.com .  I don't work for them.


MYBRAINHERTZ     kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: John M Hrivnak <jhrivnak@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: looking for an anthology of H. R. Giger
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:05:13 GMT

Heavy Metal magazine often has alot of mail order stuff.
I've seen ads for H.R. Giger prints and books but they are pretty expensive.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: Ender's Game
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 08:41:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <4734@balrog.ctron.com> mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
>Agree on the not cyberpunk. But the "adolescent...juvenile" is a little harsh.
>Maybe by comparison to a well-written cyber slice-and-dice technovel, yeah,
>it's fairly wimpy stuff.  And it's not major-league profound.  But it is a
>good novel, pretty decently written and characterized, especially considering
>that it is essential a short story elaboration.  I can buy the "a...j"
>comment as a valid reaction to "rates with Neuromancer" but not on the book's
>own merits.  Most unfortunately, without a little more explanation, Tom,
>the remark seems almost envious of Card's success, even though it is most
>likely just a summary judgement in the Maddox manner.

	I don't envy Card his success; I'm just not real happy about it in
terms of what it means about the field.  Genius kid saves the world through
videogames--heavy stuff all right. 

	But the larger truth is that I don't like him, his politics, his social
attitudes, his critical positions, or his work.  

	Or his haircut.

>Why the hell don't the bookstores in my area carry your book? 

	Ask them; they don't tell me.

>If it's as good as "Snake Eyes", I really like to read it.

	Thanks.
-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		   "I swear I never heard the first shot"
                Wm. Gibson, "Agrippa:  a book of the dead"
From: acsbk@UMASSD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Books
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:29:57 GMT
Reply-To: acsbk@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.

In article <11AUG199202203734@romeo.caltech.edu>, joelong@romeo.caltech.edu (Long, Joseph Louis) writes:
>>Mondo 2000:  Ack, sorry, not interested.  It's printed on PAPER! 
>>   It should enter the electronic reality!
>good point!  All magz and newspaper SHOULD be available digitally
>but there is NO excuse for something like Mondo 2000 NOT to be!

yes, like Phrack.

>  That'd be phun.

    phun? wow. Ever 'been' to Lutzifer, Germany?
>>   I've been wearing flashing LEDs+micro-lithium batteries for 
>>   about 5 years now
>hey you should wear these flashing LED goggles that I've made out of
>cardboard tubes and Al foil... then you could look like a REAL freak! :)

    I am currently working on a black leather 'motorcycle' jacket design that is to be done with ram chips,
diodes, resistors, capacitors, etc. I am going to make a portrait on the back using them as tiles. I was thinking 
of the cover of _Neuromancer_, but I might just put a piece of my own.

    As for combat boots, yes! and >great< ankle support, just be CAREFULL on staircases if your just breaking them in .

    An aforementioned note: Yes, a mass produced cheese-eating Anarchy shirt does sound like an oxymoron, unless its made
a la 'batik' or something interesting, or if its comfy and only a few bucks so I can use it to paint in..


>l8er,
>joe                  "Don't dream it... BE IT"  -RHPS

L8r,
Bret Kulakovich
ACSBK@UMASSD.EDU                "2080057040540? ptoo."
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