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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:34:57 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>>Bear in mind that I am one of those who would attend even if the 5th
>>Circle of Hell were the locus, ...
>
>Is "locus" going the way of "parameter"?

I goofed. Locus probably also means "location", as in locus on a chromosome.
The geometric meaning is not the only one.

tushar
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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>> I'm leaning towards an athletic gray with navy blue or primary red
>> lettering. Butch, no? Tres but not trop.
>
>If we choose gray, the lettering color oughta be something striking that'll
>stand out.  Lots of colors look good against gray, how about purple or teal?
>
>> Course we could go with our teal, as spec'ed by MamaP. This would have the
>> effect of canonizing teal as words-l's official color. Not a bad thing,
>> considering what it does with my complexion.

I can't remember anymore *why* we selected teal...it's not one of
my favorite colors, as I can never decide if it's blue, green, or
grey. I think I may have been outvoted, or persuaded, or something...

I think grey with purple would be nice, probably. But remember
that I have color-deficient vision, so am not really someone to
ask...

BTW, I don't remember saying "Don't sweat the details" as much as
"Don't sweat the small stuff". Does that make a difference? I'm
very happy, in either case, to know that my wisdom is helping
someone get through life a little easier :-)

love, judith, liking the idea of having "wisdom"
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From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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slyly inquired by Marty

>Greetings,
>
>A colleague has raised a provocative question: Can baboons in Pennsylvania
>obtain driver's licenses?  If not, how do they sign the "Anatomical Gift"
>form?

Check the paper, I think there was an AP story about that.    b.c.
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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>>>>Glass of milk,
>>>>Stands between extinction in the cold and explosive radiating growth.
>>>>And the warm blood flows through the large four-chambered heart,
>>>>Maintaining the very high metabolism rate they have.
>
>>     Emboldened, I will make a large leap and guess Leonard Cohen.
>
>You miss the trapeze and fall. :)

Hi, it's just me, climbing up off the net and ready to try again.  How
about Shawn Phillips?  (Excuse the spelling; I've had a few.)

brad :*)
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:40:19 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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> The only 'cold' part of RI I remember was being near the water on 'bake day.
> In the main, I remember sweating like a pig.

I don't remember even a hint of hot weather in RI.  I remember being cold
several times -- bake day and one night after a play stand out in my
memory.  I think the time after the play was when I was back in Providence
about a week after the bake.

> And don't forget the bookstores!  There's a good Japanese bookstore and also
> that bookstore that is the largest in the US--I can't remember the name, but
> others mentioned it.

If we're talking about bookstores, why not have it in New York or London?

> Besides, while NC is East Coast, it's hardly a day's drive from Boston/NYC/

Betcha, betcha it is.  I ate lunch with Ken on my return last summer and
was in Virginia before dark.  Lunch->twilight = 1/2 a day by my calculations.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
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I'm leaning towards an athletic gray with navy blue or primary red
lettering. Butch, no? Tres but not trop.

Course we could go with our teal, as spec'ed by MamaP. This would have the
effect of canonizing teal as words-l's official color. Not a bad thing,
considering what it does with my complexion.

Or we could boldly stride into uncharted waters with a cranberry base,
lettering color to be determined after testing.

The shirt itself should be a Haynes Beefy-T or similar. This is thicker
than undershirt-quality, suitable for use as an outer garment. It's what
Apple uses, if anyone has any Apple shirts to use for comparison.

-abh
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Salmonbake Uprising
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> No, no, Doris and Giggles.  We're not going to think of individuals.
> We're going to think of the whole group as a huge intertwined circle.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I think there is a <name> for that and its initials are D...C....
This list is getting <out of hand>!
--ggs (da....da  da...da.... Give me your answer true.....)
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Shark
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What is the derivation of this word?  My American Heritage says "origin
unknown".  Another Wordsler's dictionary lists the animal name as being
derived from the human variety, which seems Pretty Bizarre to me.

Any ideas?

Karen
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 25 Jan 93 22:46:03 GMT
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MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery) writes:

>Fair enough. I never claimed to be anything but a clown.
>That doesn't obviate the arguement that the name WORDS-L is misleading.
>A list which really did restrict itself to dealing with words,
>would find a much different kind of participation on my part.
>As long as WORDS-L isn't interested in following civilised rules,
>then it shouldn't expect my participation (or anybody else's for
>that matter) to be anything else than uncivilised.

I'm curious about why you think words-l doesn't deal with words.
What is the word play, attempts at clever nuances, entendres, and
quibbles of lexicon if not a concern for words? And which "civilised
rules" do you see as being violated?

Jim (always curious) Thomas
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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:09:36 GMT

 >> Hi, it's just me, climbing up off the net and ready to try again.  How
 >> about Shawn Phillips?  (Excuse the spelling; I've had a few.)

Nope, that's not it either....
--
 * Christopher Davis * <ckd@eff.org> * <ckd@kei.com> * [CKD1] * MIME * RIPEM *
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Gilbert, if Johnson said that, he was lying.  That statement sounds more
like Gerald Ford than Lyndon Johnson.

Evelyn
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Subject: Re: bitchbake 93
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Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 07:58:51 by Natalie Maynor
>I don't consider what there is to do an issue.  FTFing with WORDSLers is
>the main point, to me.

Well, I think if all you wanted was evidence that work is being done
on the Portland site, I think Jenna has provided us with that evidence.
That was the impetus for this spasm of other-site-ness, wasn't it?
So if everything is being planned in Portland, why change the site?

Karen
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>Judith didn't even use her guest account to telnet when she was here.

Nonsense. She was guest3.

tushar
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:47:08 CST
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>I had always thought asians=orientals, but did a mental double-take
>when I saw eastern-mediterranean peoples being referred to as "wily
>orientals" -- and after all, where do most "oriental rugs" originate?

"Oriental" is probably a vaguer term in that it still includes the
middle east etc. I can't think of anyone who will, in everyday speech,
refer to, say, Greeks as "oriental". "Asians" on the other hand, are
definitely east of India. In fact, what to call Indians seems to be a
problem. "Middle Easterners" are fine, "Asians" are fine, but somehow
neither includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and
a little bit to the west, say Afghanistan and perhaps even Iran. Iraqis
and further west, I think, will be definitely called "middle eastern"
while even Burmese, Malaysians, Indonesians, etc will be unhesitatingly
called "Asians".

tushar
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From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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Question from ???:
> > Important question - what's the weather like in NC in July? Really humid,
 I'll
> > bet.
To which Natalie responds:
>
> Pleasant.  I don't think it's ever really humid in NC.  And if we're in the
> mountainy areas, it will be cool.  (Not cold like RI, but cool.)

I disagree, Natalie.  To me at least it is very humid -- and even ggs admitted
it was hot.  If for no other reason of the weather, I vote we not got to NC.
If I recall a lot (or alot if you want -- I must say that now both look wrong
and no time to consider a better phrase) of our earlier discussion on location
for the gathering led to the conclusion to stay away from the southern areas
of the US because of the weather -- whether it was heat or humidity.

Although the Smokies have great scenery, there is much to see in Portland
and environs: Mount Hood, Columbia River, Pacific Ocean within a couple of
hours ...

Personally, I'm more likely (I think) to be able to do it in Portland, as I
hope to visit family in San Francisco in late June/early July.  It would
also be fun to visit my alma mater (Reed) after all these years.

But I also like the Toronto idea -- accessible for most of us Easterners
and a neat city.

Joan
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 CROSEN@bgsuopie.bitnet wrote:

> ggs makes some very good points.  We may have crossed some sort of e-rubicon
> and portland may be cast in cement for some wordslingers.  At the risk of

Yeah, but only in the sense of their expectations being set. No other
arrangements have been made...

> northwest this summer, but I could make myself comfortable in NC as well f
> if a suitable site can be found.  I doubt any site will compare with
> Providence and it may be fantasy to expect it to.  Maybe we could all go

Yes, but as Jane Wyman said, "It will be a magnificent obsession." Maybe
this all-or-none mentality is killing it for us? A crazy idea, I know, but
call me right-brained.

-abh
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:30:00 GMT

karsten@netcom.com (karsten) writes:

>richh@netcom.com (richh) writes:
>> quote #2:
>> "You always punch hardest the boy you like the most."

>He's lost it, folks.  Once richh was a net.icon, ready with
>a snappy story or sharp retort at every mention of his name.

See above.

>Saltgirl must have tortured it out of him.  This empty shell
>of a man gasps at the end of his net.life.

Heh.  This empty shell has a new job.  Gone is all the free time before
that I was able to spend on the net.(Does that sentence parse?)

The only thing left seems to be Karsten's playground schoolgirl
obsession with me.

>Have no pity.  The old richh would have tolerated none.

>(swoon)

BTW, Saltgirl and I are no longer a team.

RICHH
--am working on a story for words.  But on the weekends alone, may take a
--week or so.
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:31:52 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.bitnet@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Maya's poem

> But it's true. "Asia" in most people's minds (as far as I know) is east
> of India, i.e. "East Asia".

This is relatively recent.  The forms and the organizations have lagged
behind people's thinking.  The American Oriental Society deals mostly w/
Indian stuff, and the Association for Asian Studies sure includes India!
(Sometimes I think 1/2 the panels at the convention are on India.) This
may change as Indian studies comes into its own.

Karen
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:37:09 CST
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>... torkel@SICS.SE writes:
>> >I was simply indicating that the discussion
>> >of netiquette is not always subtle, as the previous comment had
>> >stated.
>>
>>  I don't think Rita said that the discussion of netiquette was subtle,
>>but rather netiquette itself.
>
>        Thank you, Tushar.

You are welcome!

tushar
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 25 Jan 93 00:46:01 GMT
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>That isn't surprising.  I never heard of Indians being referred to as
>Asians until the Ugandan expulsions, when the refugees were referred
>to as 'Ugandan Asians'.  Before that, Asians had pretty much always
>meant people from Asia, ie Chinese.
>
>G


I had always thought asians=orientals, but did a mental double-take
when I saw eastern-mediterranean peoples being referred to as "wily
orientals" -- and after all, where do most "oriental rugs" originate?

--bayla (of wily oriental stock, way way back)
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Library automation

Who the hell you callin' an amateur, son?  I've had sysprivs on this hyar
system since befoah I even heerd the word "internet"!  Ah specializes in
wrangling records out in Arizony for the DRA brand, but I've been knowed ta
work with other outfits when Ah has ta...it's whut pay the bills around the
ole Triple J...

JMW, colorful Western character
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spring is here
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> Who is Depraved May? Somebody's girlfriend?

Sort of like April, the cruelest month.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Evelyn Duncan)
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Is it "Yankee"?

If correct, I'll take History.

Evelyn
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pot-bellied laughs
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> :Why are they inedible?
>
> dunno - why don't you eat one and report for us?  If they're any good
> we can have a PigPot in the winter...
>
The menu can include sow-belly, and for the intellectuals, head-cheese.
doris
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: signoff

>You can't take anyone seriously writing about the net of you don't
>immediately recognise their name.  Probably one of those fidonet or
>bitnet nonentities who has never seen the real net...

Apparently just a writer who saw an idea for an article he could sell.
He seems to have had an account set up at Western Kentucky
specifically to sample network lists.

macmillm@ewc
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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        Your system manager can talk about the limitations of your system.  But
        keep in mind that that is system-specific.  As for Adam Co... oops, I
        mean as for a former wordsler, well... never mind.

Hahahahaaha!  They deserve each other.

G
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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        The image of stuffing overly anal-retentive pillocks is quite entertaini
ng.
        At the other end, I suppose, one might tell an overly diarrheic doxy to
        loosen up a bit.

diarrhoeic.  English Professors, I ask you...

        On the other hand, supposing it wasn't a person on words-l, but a former
        words-ler on another list, or even one of our system managers? We are
        desparately short of disk space right now.

No problem - you can always unsub...

G
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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:  >Who??????  Not only never heard them, never heard *of* them...

:  I know They Might Be Giants only from a couple of videos on MTV. They're
:pretty good. ("I'm your only friend, well I'm not actually your friend"). I
:think you, the Snooty Scot, might well appreciate them.

Not if it means getting MTV first I wouldn't...

G
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU (Rashmi) says:

>> I vote for ash gray.  And I hereby place my order for one doggy-size shirt.
>
>Dear Bernard,  I don't want to sound specist, but why does a dog need
>a shirt, or any piece of clothing?   Aren't they a human abomination?
>I'm sure you'd look far more handsome in your natural coat than in ash
>gray or some such color.  If Natalie's talking you into getting a shirt,
>convince her that it's not necessary.  I'm sure you can do it.
>
And while you're at it, get her off of this gray kick, will you?  Some
people with the right coloring look fine in it.  Some of us used to wear it
to get out of school sick.:-)  Black, on the other hand, can look OK....
Charcoal is even better - kind of a grayish black.  But that light stuff
has *got* to go.


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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Dan?
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Has anyone heard from/about Dan Lester lately?  It seems like a long
time since we've had a cyclops update.

Karen
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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From: Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

> Does this mean that Depraved May is about to run through the streets
> of Victoria?

No. That happens a few months down the road.

Peter
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In a previous article, g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (G) says:

>        >        Fizzy, izzat you?   And where can we get that gif?
>        >
>        >I doubt it's fizzy; Fizzy knows better...
>        >
>        Oh, has he seen you <au naturel>?
>
>Good grief, what a dirty mind.  I merely meant he knows better than

I hang out with you, dear; what other kind could I have after all this time?

>make idle threats.  Anyway, I've *no idea* where fizzy could get a gif
>of a 3" John Thomas to post...
>
Maybe he's got a waterproof instamatic?  If not, he has/had full Usenet
access, didn't he?  

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From:         AYC3@NCH08A.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      If it's my turn at Trivial Pursuit
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Carolyn,
I accidentally erased a message in which I think you told me if it was my
turn next/soon.  If so, I'll take a question in Arts/Entertainment.

--Anjani