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From: shewchuk@halcyon.com (John Shewchuk)
Subject: Public Domain Basic Source?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:23:00 GMT

Anyone know where to find source for a reasonably modern basic
interpreter?

Thanks.  -John

Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: stevepo@microsoft.com (Steven Podradchik)
Subject: Re: Visual BASIC for DOS
Date: 04 Nov 92 22:12:35 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Oct30.202612.22241@exu.ericsson.se> exuhag@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>Is anyone using this yet (assuming it is out--I haven't seen it).
>Does it keep most of the features from QuickBASIC 4.5 while adding 
>Visual BASIC for Windows features, or is it an entirely new product.

VB/DOS is a superset of Basic PDS.  Basic PDS is a superset of QB.
Therefore, QB apps load and run unmodified into VB/DOS (except for some
variable name conflicts w/ new keywords, of course).

The superset part of VB/DOS is (essentially) the form design tools
and event-driven model of VB/Win.  Draw forms, buttons, menus, etc; set
properties; add event-driven code to controls; etc.

VB/DOS shipped 2 months ago.

thanks, steve podradchik
Product Manager, MS DOS Basic Products



Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic,comp.windows.ms
From: yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (EE U780935)
Subject: Re: need: Visual Basic / Win COM port API: codes /reference
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:37:44 GMT

lcc5@cs.columbia.edu (Li-Chung Chang) writes:
> Hi, sirs:
Yes! I am a sir!  
> (1) where can I find sample codes for Visual Basic using Win API for COM port ? 
> (2) any books ( including Win3 programming ) discussing this?
Ans 1 & 2: The book, Visual Basic How-To,has an example of serial communication.
           You can buy the book or tell me and I'll send the example to you.
 
> (3) I've heard that CompuServe has some simple samples ( I've no access to ), 
> does anyone has some "serious" codes and willing to share? :-)
Sorry! I don't have an account in CompuServe. But I have some sample codes
that get from FTP. You can buy my book Visual Basic Technical Manual also! :-)
If you want the sample codes, I can send to you. 
Are you a Chinese?? My book is written in Chinese!

> Thank you.
You are welcome.

--
===============================================================================
 Yuh-Fuu Wu                                      National Tsing-Hua University
 e-mail: yfwu@uz.nthu.edu.tw                     Dept. of Electric Engineering
                                                 Hsin-Chu City, 300
 Like MS Visual Basic most!                      Taiwan, ROC
===============================================================================
From: galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:24:16 GMT
Subject: Re: WAV in VB
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic

In alt.lang.basic, strong-john@yale.edu (John Strong) writes:

>Hi,
>   Can someone please repost the code to play .WAV files in Visual BASIC in
>Windows 3.1?  Thanks!

Here it is again... 

In the global module declare the API function:

Declare Function sndPlaySound Lib "MMsystem" (ByVal lpSound As String, ByVal Flags As Integer) As Integer

Global Const SND_SYNC = 0      'play synchronously (default)
Global Const SND_ASYNC = 1     'play asynchronously

In your program simply put:

Result% = SndPlaySound("TADA.WAV", SND_ASYNC)

- Galen -
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: Something tells me comp.lang.basic wouldn't fly
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:15:51 GMT

wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
: 
: With some of the negative comments about basic a few posts back, something
: tells me that a lot of basic trashers would come out of the woodwork and
: vote down comp.sys.basic.
: 
Ok, I'll bite.

I'm the one that newgroup'd alt.lang.basic, and I'm getting ready to post
an RFD for comp.os.ms-windows.visual-basic as it is, and I've already run
one usenet newsgroup ballot, so I guess I'll take this one on.

Lemme cobble together an RFD and we'll see what we can do about it.

One word of warning: when comp.lang.basic passes, we won't be able to
get rid of alt.lang.basic, Mr. Bruce Becker will send out "newgroup"
messages to negate any "rmgroup" messages for alt.lang.basic.  Sigh.

--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug

cat core | uuencode bunny.dropping | mail jp@tygra.michigan.com
From: millard@acsu.buffalo.edu (Peter G. Millard)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: How to get fast window print in VB/DOS?
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:13:47 GMT
Organization: UB

stevepo@microsoft.com (Steven Podradchik) writes:

>You should get approximately the same print rate when printing to a
>form via the Print method as printing to a standard DOS screen with the
>Print statement.  Could you post some of the code you're using?

>Thanks, Steve Podradchik (MS)

here is some sample code...the draw2 routine draws the number 2 on the 
screen using the h & v variables which specify it's starting position.
I am using the SUB LCATE to clean up the code write now. Might this be
slowing down the execution?

I pass the horizontal & vertical positions and what character to print.

draw2:
FOR t = 1 TO 5:
    lcate h + t, v, CHR$(205)
NEXT t
lcate h + 6, v, CHR$(187)
lcate h + 6, v + 1, CHR$(186)
lcate h + 6, v + 2, CHR$(188)
FOR t = 2 TO 5: lcate h + t, v + 2, CHR$(205): NEXT t
lcate h + 1, v + 2, CHR$(201)
lcate h + 1, v + 3, CHR$(186)
lcate h + 1, v + 4, CHR$(200)
FOR t = 2 TO 6:
    lcate h + t, v + 4, CHR$(205):
NEXT t:
RETURN

SUB lcate (x, y, x$)
Rdscrn.disp.CurrentX = x
Rdscrn.disp.CurrentY = y
Rdscrn.disp.PRINT x$
END SUB


Thanx for any additional info which anyone can provide.

-- 
******************************************************************************
	Peter G. Millard  *  INTERNET: v057n5um@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu           
 	SUNY @ Buffalo    *          : millard@acsu.buffalo.edu
*****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: Gabriel Landini <g.landini@uk.ac.bham>
Subject: Calling QuickC from QuickBasic
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:21:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

I am trying to pass the control from QUickBasic to QuickC for handling
pixels and calculations (some image processing).
However, Do I have to set up the C subroutine to a screen mode or it is kept
from the QBasic mode?
Help
Gabriel Landini
Oral Pathology Unit, School of Dentistry, Birmingham University.
St. Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 6NN. U.K.
Tel: +44 (0)21 2368611 ext. 5874
Fax: +44 (0)21 6258815
e-mail: G.Landini@bham.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: stevepo@microsoft.com (Steven Podradchik)
Subject: Re: How to get fast window print in VB/DOS?
Date: 09 Nov 92 19:36:01 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

You should get approximately the same print rate when printing to a
form via the Print method as printing to a standard DOS screen with the
Print statement.  Could you post some of the code you're using?

Thanks, Steve Podradchik (MS)
From: biow@cs.umd.edu (chris biow)
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: QBX Memory Problems
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:11:11 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <61805@mimsy.umd.edu> biow@cs.umd.edu (chris biow) screws up:

>I haven't ported my application over to QBDOS yet--it may be better.
                                         ^^^^^
Uh, make that VBDOS...

>At least string literals aren't in DGROUP.

Also, I should add that MicroHelp's QUIRKS.TXT file is a good 
compilation of Microsoft Basics' problems.
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: See you in rec.outdoors.fishing
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:28:01 GMT

Just so's ya know...

  Out of every 100 fishing posts on the Usenet, 90 of them end up in
rec.outdoors.fishing, while only 10 will go to alt.fishing.

  Not everyone gets the alt.* newsgroups, hence the creation of the
rec.outdoors.fishing newsgroups.

  "Where to post" if you want to be where the action is!

BD

PS:  See you in rec.outdoors.fishing!  Glad to have ya!  (You bringin' the
beer this time?)

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: telescopic rods
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:28:58 GMT

i think ugly stik makes one.. 
if u r gonna buy a telescopic thats the brand i recommend.. 
any sporting goods store should have or be able to direct u.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: fitch@fitch.pa.dec.com (John Fitch)
Subject: Flycasters of San Jose - Meeting
Keywords: flyfishing, trout
Reply-To: fitch@fitch.pa.dec.com (John Fitch)
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 18:38:25 GMT


Flycasters of San Jose meet November 11 (and every second wednesday).
Ralph Cutter will present "Sierra Trout".
7:00 at the Gerry Bernhardt Senior Center.  
Saratoga and Payne in San Jose.  
Public invited.  Free.  

For information reply by enet or call John at 415-617-3314.
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: test
From: osborn@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:26:24 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

just a test
From: lstarrit@dante.nmsu.edu (Larry Way Starritt)
Subject: telescopic rods
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:23:33 GMT

I'm looking for a really good telescoping (light to mediun).
Where and from who would I get one?

Thanks
lstarrit@nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: test2
From: osborn@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:27:47 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College


Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: bpencek@nevada.edu (Bruce Pencek)
Subject: When at COMDEX...
Organization: Political Science, UNLV
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:37:10 GMT

Now that we're advertising club meetings, here goes...

The Las Vegas Fly Fishing Club (winner of the 1992 FFF Mckenzie Cup) November
meeting is the Tuesday night of Comdex, if you're in town.  Program will be
"Vise Squad II," featuring favorite patterns for the winter season (San Juan
mostly) and into the spring.  Free.  7 -9 pm. Angel Park Golf Club, Las Vegas

Trout and stripers are at Willoow Beach on the Colorado, 1 hr south of LV;
decent stream and lake fishing is still available within a 3-4 hour driving 
radius.

(If you're in town in January, come by for Emmett Heath and Jack Dennis [co-
sponsored by Clearwater Fly FIshing, the new - and only - fly shop in LV];
Eric Leiser will be in Apri or May; Steve Rajeff in September.)

Bruce Pencek

-- 
Bruce Pencek                    	 	bpencek@nevada.edu
Political Science Dept, UNLV	   	  	bpencek@nevada2.bitnet
"To him, all good things--trout as well as eternal salvation--come by grace 
and grace comes by art and art does not come easy"	--Norman Maclean
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: jlaurila@conan.cs.hut.fi (Jari Laurila)
Subject: Favourite flies
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:31:12 GMT

Hi there,
	I'm  interested in fly fishing, and would like to hear
	about your best flies and their recipies for winter time
	(below 0 degreed celsius) sea-trout fishing while they are
	coming to rivers for spawning. 


	Jari Laurila

Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:13:12 -0500 
From: Tariq Andre Mahadeo <tm3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: our fashion group

	-J. Schiffman


no offense

but, well............
could you please get a new attitude?


tariq
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: trubik@hydra.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo)
Subject: US-made (was Re: Dockers and Levi Travelers pants)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:56:39 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In <BxGpwE.81J@news.fai.com> luisg@hadar.fai.com (Luis Galleguillos) writes:

>Almost all men's clothes are made overseas. Are there any brands made
>exclusively in the USA?

Offhand, no, not exclusively.  We should bear in mind that our discussions
on the net are international . . .

-steven
 trubik@hydra.unm.edu
From: skchin@quesadilla.engr.ucdavis.edu (Mystic)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Palazzo style pants
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:30:26 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

I've noticed that a lot of women are wearing palazzo pants these days,
  and was wondering how long this trend will last.  I think they look
  nice on some people, but not sure if they will look good on me. 
  I'm around 5 feet tall, and I'm afraid these pants might make me
  look even shorter?  


-- 
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  Mystic  skchin@tomatillo.engr.ucdavis.edu  University of California Davis
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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Subject: Need fashion forcast help
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:34:32 GMT

Hi Fashionables!

I am trying to decide whether to put in the work to make myself a 
jacket/blazer aka 'anchorwoman's jacket'.  I really like how they look.

I have to make it because I can't find any readymade that fit well and I am 
on a very limited budget.

My question, oh fashion gurus is:  Do you think this style will be around 
for a long while yet, so that my time and expense will be well spent.  Or 
do you think it is going out, in which case, what do you think will replace 
it.  Note that the long diagonal of the lapels looks really good on my.

Thanks for any prognostications and ideas.

--Jill
--
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InterNet: dmiller@im.lcs.mit.edu       | 61 Lake Shore Road            |
Voice: 508/653-6136, 9am-9pm EasternTZ | Natick, MA 01760-2099, USA    |
From: ZHUR@auvm.american.edu (Z. Selin Hur)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: Our fashion group
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:17:34 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

'Allo, everyone,
Tara: The two best design schools in the country are the Parsons School of
Design and F.I.T. (Fashion Institute of Technology) in New York and in a
distant third in Chicago's School/College of Art.  However, you must learn
the basics of fashion, design, and some art for a B.F.A. or and A.A.
One cannot go directly to learn just wedding dress design.  That can be your
speciality or forte later on.  I hope that helped!
By the way, what is a FAQ?  I haven't heard of that before.
Selin
From: Six@London.Fields.UK (Nicola Six)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Dockers and Levis Travelers Pants
Keywords: Embarassment, pedestrian
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:50:41 GMT
Organization: End of the Millenium

Who cares where and how Dockers and Levis Travelers trousers are 
manufactured. If you have any sense whatsoever you wouldn't know, nor care 
since you wouldn't be caught dead in them.

						-J. Schiffman
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: euafri@eua.ericsson.se (Fredrik stman)
Subject: Re: Sacre Merde
Reply-To: euafri@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:33:49 GMT

Charles Foster Kane writes:

>I thought maybe somone would know what the summer lines from Gianni 
>Versace and Hugo Boss might be like.

Go ahead. Tell us. But why the ~summer~ lines? Here in Sweden we'll soon have winter.

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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: sfysh@epas.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Moskal Fysh)
Subject: Re: Mail Order Catalogues
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:31:13 GMT

Holt Renfrew does some mail-order.  Their catalogue is sent to all
card-holders, and it also indicates in which stores each item is
available.  It's not close to as full as the stores, though.
From: Kane@Xanadu.com (Charles Foster Kane)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: our fashion group
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:18:49 GMT
Organization: The Evening Herald

In article <Yf0Qj8K00awF07lK0j@andrew.cmu.edu> tm3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tariq Andre Mahadeo) writes:
>From: tm3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tariq Andre Mahadeo)
>Subject: Re: our fashion group
>Date: 12 Nov 92 03:13:12 GMT
>
>	-J. Schiffman

Sure, where would you like me to get it ? Parsons or FIT ?

						-jjs
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Putting together a FAQ for alt.fashion -- suggestions?
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:15:22 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: alt.fashion
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi everyone:

I am in the process of putting together a FAQ for alt.fashion.  I would
appreciate your suggestions as to what to include (since we don't have
that many frequently asked questions here!  :-) ), as well as addresses
and phone numbers of fashion-notable stores/industries/shows, etc.,
best magazines, whatever you can think of.

A properly constructed FAQ posted monthly here as well as to news.answers
may increase the audience here, nest pas?

It would probably be best to send them directly via e-mail.  Thanks in 
advance.

+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: kparker%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Parker)
Subject: Re: Dockers and Levi Travelers pants
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:55:23 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Luis Galleguillos writes:

> I have been thoroughly disappointed with the Dockers line of men's
> slacks. These are made of 100% cotton and just after 30 minutes it
> looks like you have never ironed them. 

Ah, yes, I have noticed this.  I use to ware Dockers at a temporary
job that required a fair bit of exercise, but forbid jeans.  They
always looked better at home than at work; in fact at home they
sometimes actually looked good, but at work they looked miserable.

Funny I didn't figure out for a long time that it was the process of
warring them (and not some trick of the mind) that made the difference.

Dockers do have some good points:

1) They ware really well.  Though they fade, the basic integrity
   remains for something like 300+ days of use, with as many washes.
   (At least that was true for me, I think that I'm slightly harder on
   clothes than average but not extremely hard on clothes, like a
   child or a wielder).

2) They fit on younger, more athletic men or on men that simply have
   smaller hips much better than almost anything else which resembles
   dress pants ... not that they ARE overly dressy ... This could be
   because they are 100% cotton ...

Ken
From: egilmour@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Mail Order Catalogues
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:53:42 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Due to the increase and duty etc...that one must pay when ordering from 
American catalogues, I am wondering if anyone can tell me about any clothing
catalogues in Canada that are available(besides Sears).  

The Government thinks that raising the import duties etc...will 
encourage Canadians to buy Canadian, but I don't know of any Canadian 
catalogues besides Sears so how can I buy Canadian?  
Overall, I have become very discouraged in trying to buy anything 
of quality in Canada; I want to buy Canadian but I can never find 
what I want and I've always found it to be just much simpler to order
from one of the many American catalogues.  So if anyone can give a list
of Canadian catalogues, if there are any, I would be quite interested.

Janet (obsessed with mail order).    
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: brookc1@mail.auburn.edu (Cassandra Brooks)
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous fashion-related questions.
Reply-To: brookc1@mail.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 00:32:57 GMT



Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: luisg@hadar.fai.com (Luis Galleguillos)
Subject: Re: Dockers and Levi Travelers pants
Originator: luisg@lugano
Organization: Fujitsu NTS
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:55:26 GMT


In article <1992Nov7.175524.23673@hellgate.utah.edu>, kparker%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Parker) writes:
|> Luis Galleguillos writes:
|> 
|> > I have been thoroughly disappointed with the Dockers line of men's
|> > slacks. These are made of 100% cotton and just after 30 minutes it
|> > looks like you have never ironed them. 
|> 
|> Ah, yes, I have noticed this.  I use to ware Dockers at a temporary
|> job that required a fair bit of exercise, but forbid jeans.  They
|> always looked better at home than at work; in fact at home they
|> sometimes actually looked good, but at work they looked miserable.
|> 
|> Funny I didn't figure out for a long time that it was the process of
|> warring them (and not some trick of the mind) that made the difference.
|> 
|> Dockers do have some good points:
|> 
|> 1) They ware really well.  Though they fade, the basic integrity
|>    remains for something like 300+ days of use, with as many washes.
|>    (At least that was true for me, I think that I'm slightly harder on
|>    clothes than average but not extremely hard on clothes, like a
|>    child or a wielder).
|> 
|> 2) They fit on younger, more athletic men or on men that simply have
|>    smaller hips much better than almost anything else which resembles
|>    dress pants ... not that they ARE overly dressy ... This could be
|>    because they are 100% cotton ...
|> 
|> Ken

I learned today that Levis is now being boycoted by its US workers.
Levis, according to two workers interviewed in radio KPFA of Berkeley
Laid off workers and closed more than 50 plants in the USA and moved to Costa
Rica in Central America without notifying and without fairly compensating
its employees. Also there was a 60 Minutes program on 11/8/92 that revealed that
the Levis' factory move was supported and even financed by our own
government. I have not watched  60 Minutes yesterday. Was this the
case?

Almost all men's clothes are made overseas. Are there any brands made
exclusively in the USA? Also maybe it is good that clothing factories move
to our next door neighbors to aliviate social and economic problems there. I
guess this is a topic for another news group...

Luis
luisg@hadar.fai.com  
Newsgroups: alt.fashion