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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Patriots News
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:10:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

>In article <1993Jan25.192646.21867@asl.dl.nec.com>
>doan@aslslc07.asl.dl.nec.com (Duc Doan) writes:
>
> Three years ago the Cowboys DID NOT HAVE PERSONNEL to do anything! But lookt
> at them now. I think it is about time the Giants stop 
> dreaming about Parcell's
> team and start building a SUPERBOWL team. This is easier said than done but
> trading away some veteran players from the defense to get some good offense
> draft picks is the only way out for the Giants.
>
>

But what the Cowboys did have was:
(1) a front office willing (eager even) to make the necessary changes to 
rebuild.
(2) an owner who worked with his coach is assessing where the greatest needs
of the team were and
(3) total patsies (Mike Lynn and Jim Finks) who gave up far too much for 
run of the mill players.

If George Young was the GM of the Cowboys, they would be 6-10 this year but
hey, they'd have Herschel Walker to gain a billion yards on a billion carries.

In the last 3 years, guess how many trades the Giants have made?? ZERO! Nada,
zippo!!

There are plenty of teams in the NFL who could use that aging defensive 
lineman or aging center for a quick run at contention but the Giants will
never give these guys up! What the front office needs more than a great coach
or a great defensive lineman is a major brain transplant!

satish nair
giants
From: marshal@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Timothy Pat Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Frank Reich
Date: 28 Jan 1993 09:58:44 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY) writes:

>In article <93027.134302JAS218@psuvm.psu.edu>, JAS218@psuvm.psu.edu (Jeff Shelto
>n) writes:
>>I think he should be the starting quarterback for the Bills, and I'm a Bills
>>fan.  Get rid of Kelly for draft picks and the Bills are set for the next
>>five years.  Reich is the man.
>>
>>Joe C.  - A Frank Fun Bunch Member - I was at the Houston Playoff game and
>>am very proud of it.
>>
>AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Mr. Ego, er, uh, KELLY is just an idiot. He is the only QB in the NFL who
>thinks he can throw into quadruple coverage. It was said before the Miami game
>by Ed Kilgore (Local Sportscaster in Buffalo) and many others including Larry
>Felser and Vic Carruci (co-wrote Kelly's book) that although both have the
>potential to WIN the game, Kelly as equal potential to LOSE the game.
>-- 
>-Matthew Narby-
>Buffalo BILLS
>One Bills Drive
>Orchard Park, N.Y.
>Colors: Red, Blue and White
>Rich Stadium

I think you have to go with who has the greatest talent and who
has the chance of taking the team to the SB.  I like Reich, but
I think over the long season he will be less effective than Kelly.
I believe that the great numbers he put up aginst Houstan fogs the
issue.  I remember someone named Longely (sp?) in Dallas who did
similar but went no further.

                                Just my opinion
                                Chiefs in 94-Please!
                                TIM

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From: floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich)
Subject: Re: "How bout them Cowboys"
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:23:25 GMT

In article <C16Ks7.A2H@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>
>[The Bills] lost the 'team concept' in the two weeks before last year's SB with
>all there media antics and the like. 
>But, this year, they know they have an important job to do. 

Dallas as well know they have an important job to do.

>They don't want to be embarrassed by being the only team to lose in 3 in a row. 
Dallas doesn't want to be embarassed by being one of 3 teams to lose 4 SBs.

>The Bills are not satisfied with being there; they want to win it. 

And Dallas is just satisfied with being there?

I don't see any clear advantage for the Bills.  The NFC Championship game
had as much build-up and as many distractions as any in recent memory.  Seems
like Dallas handled it pretty well, too.  Why do you assume they will crack
in the SB?  Just because Buffalo has in the past?  All of your reasons 
Buffalo will win are pure conjecture and highly subjective.

Floyd Goodrich
floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Why Buffalo will win (Re: "How bout them Cowboys")
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:26:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.152325.21236@oakhill.sps.mot.com> floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich) writes:
>In article <C16Ks7.A2H@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>>
>>But, this year, they know they have an important job to do. 
>Dallas as well know they have an important job to do.
>
>>They don't want to be embarrassed by being the only team to lose in 3 in a row. 
>Dallas doesn't want to be embarassed by being one of 3 teams to lose 4 SBs.
>
>>The Bills are not satisfied with being there; they want to win it. 
>And Dallas is just satisfied with being there?
>
>I don't see any clear advantage for the Bills.  

You know, Floyd, the Bills fans are desperate for sure. You have to give them
the leeway that all the above factors are really significant, or they will 
think of something more crazy:

1) the Bills' uniform color is darker, thus the team is tougher
2) the Bills play in tougher weather
3) the Bills are alphabetically ahead of the Cowboys
4) the Bills represent a conference that's alphabetically ahead
5) the Bills didn't endure a 1-15 season
6) the Bills have more Michael Jordans
7) the Bills win playoff games on the road; in this SB, the NFC is 
   the home team
......

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: mcgowan@physics.llnl.gov (Jay D McGowan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: New Clock rule
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:03:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Could somebody give me the exact details about the new (3 years old)
clock rule that was mentioned.   I have a bet about this.  Doesn't
the clock keep running on plays that go out of bounds except when
the game clock is inside 5 minutes?

Thanks,

Jay D. McGowan L-298		jdm@llnl.gov
"How you handle pressure determines how you handle life"
LLNL
7000 East Ave.
Livermore, CA 94550
(510) 423-9860

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From: saari@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jonathan Saari)
Subject: Re: Superbowl Supertrivia
Reply-To: saari@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:16:11 GMT

In article 545@zeus.ieee.org, jcichock@ep.ieee.org (J Cichocki) writes:
> In article 19204@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu, mk0e@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR) writes:
> > Now a question about batch of '83 QBs. Some commentator mentioned that the '83
> > QBs are 0-7 on SBs. I know that Elway is 0-3, Jim Kelly 0-2 and Marino 0-1.
> > But that makes it only 0-6. Who got the 7th loss?
> 
> Wasn't it Boomer Esiason for Cincinnati? SB XXIII? Only other choices are Wash. in SB XVIII or the Patriots in SB XX.
> 
> Jeff

It was the Patriots in SB XX - Tony Eason

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From: mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: J. Unitus
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:49:04 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan20.184617.8738@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, greg_ridsdale@ausqm1.sp
s.mot.com (Greg Ridsdale) writes:
>Help me settle a bet.  What years did J. Unitus' career span.
>
I think '56-'71. I know whe he lost SBIII he was getting old, and retired soon
afterwards.
-- 
-Matthew Narby-
Buffalo BILLS
One Bills Drive
Orchard Park, N.Y.
Colors: Red, Blue and White
Rich Stadium
(80,020) NFL
From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: RE: Really important question
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:04:25 GMT
Organization: Clark University

In a previous article, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) wrote:
> 
>Does anyone know who the coach for Bud light will be in the Bud Bowl (history's
>most celebrated quarterback).  I say the speaker sounds like Montana but it
>could also be Joe Namath.

It sounded to me like Joe Namath. What I want to know is, what was
Corbin Bensen doing in the commercial?

Bart
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 07:14:23 PST
From: <TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: 2-weeks to SB is too long!

After the N/AFC Championship games there should be only 1 week to the Super Bow
l!  There aren't any advantages for the two teams, except for the fans who
want to watch the game live in Pasadena.  In the mean time, I guess I watch
the Professional Bowlers Tour.
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Who's better -- SF or Buffalo? (Does it matter?)
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:52:26 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan21.070737.8102@midway.uchicago.edu> bitn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>Cowboys.  Here's the way I see it:
>
>QB -- Even.
>RB -- Edge Buffalo. (slight, of course).
>TE -- Edge Dallas.
>WR -- Edge Dallas. (slight)
>OL -- Edge Buffalo. (slight)
>DL -- Edge Buffalo.
>LB -- Even.
>CB and SAFETIES -- Edge Dallas.
>COACH -- Who am I to judge. :)

JJ has better coaching capabilities, but Marv is more likable.
 
>
>I think this is a much fairer assessment of the teams.  Comments/criticism are
>welcome.  BTW, my prediction ...
>
>Buffalo 28, Dallas 24
>
>*-Nathan-*

Well, I must say, this is probably the most level headed posts I've seen in
a while. These teams are both strong on both sides of the ball, and
everyone that says Dallas will blow out Buffalo or vice versa is way off
the mark. This one might even go into OT (ever happened before?).  Beyond
the talent, Buffalo has SB experience and more motivation ( to avoid
embarassment) , but Dallas is the new kid on the block, and they might not
know that an inexperienced team is supposed to blow it amid all the Super
Bowl hype. The fat lady won't sing in this one until there is no time left
on the clock.

>
>waiting to see where the supreme being of the universe, Mr. Ditka, will lead
>my cheers to ... (please mr. ditka, let it not be new england ... )
>
>
>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|                         INTER ARMA SILENT LEGES                      |
>| "Worship Ditka NOW."                email:  bitn@midway.uchicago.edu |
>|______________________________________________________________________| 

--Jim
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Superbowl, the HYPE FACTOR cuts both ways...
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:19:54 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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  Seen a lot about how the young Cowboys could be distracted by all the
hype and blow the game because of it.  I've also seen many posts which
say the Bills have the edge here, because they've been through it twice
before.

  What I haven't seen (and pardon me if I missed it, there's a LOT of
traffic here) is the notion that the Bills will be under a lot of pressure
BECAUSE they've been here twice before, and come up on the short end of 
things.  This knowledge can be a motivating factor, but it can also work
against you.  You start playing to avoid errors instead of making the other
guy have errors, that sort of thing.

  Not saying it will happen, just that it can, and that it is something to
consider in all this talk of experience and having "been there".  Having
"been there" is a two-edged sword.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: emdynle@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Em Dyn chi co' em trong tim anh)
Subject: sports cards
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:17:34 GMT

Anyone interested in trading or selling or just talking about sports  
vards. email to to.  I got all kinds including emmitt rookies and shaq  
rookies.  I got some autograph cards too. Reply
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From: hck@maximo.enet.dec.com (Herb King)
Subject: DALLAS COWBOYS WEEKLY
Keywords: weekly newspaper
Reply-To: hck@maximo.enet.dec.com (Herb King)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:57:41 GMT




If anyone has any Information on how I could suscribe to the cowboys
weekly newspaper, Please send me the address and suscription cost. I think
that it is weekly during the season then monthly in the off season, with
the cheerleaders featured in the middle. 

Thank you in advance    email addr. hck@taos.enet.dec.com
                                    or the one above



                      herb

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From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Subject: Re: New Super Bowl Trivia
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 20:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: BNR, Inc.


|> 
|> While we're on the subject, who is considered to be the home team for the
|> SB?
|> --Jim


    The NFC representative (Cowboys...for the football impaired :)  ) are
the home team this year.  The home team gets several "advantages", if you
will.  One is choosing which jersey color to wear.   Dallas will be in 
white (thus avoiding the much dreaded blue jersey jinx).  Da Boyz are
14-1 in white, 1-2 in blue this year.  

    I cannot remember the other "advantages".  Anyone?...Anyone?

-- 
I am just a COWBOY, lonesome on the trail              |  Pat Power
Lord, I'm just thinking about a certain female...      |  My opinions only
Roll me over and turn me around, let me keep spinning  |  
     til I hit the ground.                             |  Da Boyz are back!!
Roll me over and let me go, running free with          |
     the BUFFALO.   - Thin Lizzy, "The Cowboy Song"    |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: tom@vexcel.com (Tom Baltzer)
Subject: Re: NYG/Reeves NOT pass oriented coach??
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:10:05 GMT

In article <C1FIL1.FA1@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:

	[Reeves vs. Ray stuff - Dan's a passing coach?]

>Broncos fans comment on this?

Well, my observatin of the the Reeves era Broncos is as follows:

He always attempts to put together a running game, but has never
been able to put together a decent offensive line, (the Why of this
has always bothered me), in fact I don't believe he's ever drafted
an O-lineman before maybe the 5th round, (which ain't gonna get you
much when you're competing with the 9ers, Bears, etc).  
I've always wondered about that, as over the past few years we've 
watched Elway get sacked more and more and more!

To some degree I believe he counted on Elway's scrambling abilities
in this regard, and then counted on a slashing type running back to
pick his way through whatever hole the o-line might be able to put
together.

This worked ok when faced with somewhat weaker AFC (uh oh, flame bait)
opponents, but against the NFC defenses the denver O could do little,
(note some of the wonderful SuperBowl Blowouts, and Denver's record
against the NFC East this year).

Anyway, that's my $0.02.  Best of luck if you do get him, he's certainly
a class act.

Tom.
>
>Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
>Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
					      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
					What was it that inspired him to 
				say this?  I used to be a big fan ... but
				it's been a while.


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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Hollywood Gossip Column
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:33:16 GMT

local wags in LA are aflutter due to an incident that occured sunday night
between darryl talley and a bodyguard for magic johnson.  the event occured
at *the roxbury*, a local establishment made famous by the recent tussle
between shannon daugherty and another budding starlet.  according to magic,
words were exchanged along with some pushing and shoving.  magic asked to
be driven home ... by his brutish bodyguard.  after taking magic home, the
club and duked it out with talley.  *eye-witness reports* claim that punches
were thrown and talley ended up on the floor.  reporters at monday's
practice at usc noted that talley entered the locker room wearing shades
and sporting *abrasions* on his face.

btw, i hear that *the roxbury* is gonna make this a weekly special.  next
CELEBRITY TKO EVENT will be super-bowl sunday night and features nate newton
and the fat chick from wilson phillips.

more to come ...

james
From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Subject: Wade Phillips Top Bronco
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:20:14 GMT
Organization: BNR, Inc.

Heard Wade Phillips got the job as Bronco Head Coach.

How long has he been with Denver ?  (Any chance Buddy
Ryan could takeover the Defensive job he leaves open?)



-- 
Cary W Reams | Austin College Kangaroos
NT/BNR/MTXVO | Hopper Express & the Runnin' `Roos
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From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ninth Annual All-Madden Team Announced
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:07:16 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <422610d58@ofa123.fidonet.org>, Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>In a message of <Jan 24 17:31>, Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR (1:103/208) writes: 
> >Practically all of the names on his list are from the NFC! I only saw a 
> >couple of names from the AFC (mostly Houston). Sheeshhh....
>
>You need to remember that CBS carries games in NFC stadiums.  NBC gets the AFC 
>stadium games.
>
>John Madden is more likely to pick NFC players because he sees more of them
>play.
>

Not exactly I think. The conference of the Visiting Team in
a match determines the network (NFC - CBS & AFC - NBC).
So if Washington plays in Kansas (as they did this year)
then CBS will cover it. (As John Madden and Pat Summerall did
this year).
But I wholeheartedly agree with you on the point
that he is more likely to pick NFC players since he watches
them more.
Bye
From: Zac.Gillbanks@newcastle.ac.uk (Z. Gillbanks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Frank Reich - QUANTUM LEAP?
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:10:20 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU


        Was it just me, or did any one else notice when Sam Beckett leapt into
the body of Frank Reich at half-time in the Bills vs Oilers game???

        Maybe Sam's mission this time is to help win the Superbowl for the
Bills and by doing so will leap into Reich's body on SuperSunday - when hopefully
he will play.  This way, Al can tell him what to do, and take the Bills to
Victory!

        It can't just be me that has noticed the similarity between Frank Reich
and Scott Bakula of QL fame.

Any thoughts????

================================================================
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/_________  /\ "Theorising that one could time-travel within his
\  ______/ / /  own lifetime, Dr.Sam Beckett stepped into the
 \ \ \  / / /   Quantum Leap accelerator......and vanished!"
  \ \ \/ / /
   \ \ \/ /    Zac.
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GO BILLS......(from an AFC supporter).
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Another Boring Super Bowl
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:11:16 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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In article <C1KEz8.1r7@rice.edu>
root@custer.uucp (Operator) writes:

> This years SB is gearing up to be like most others. I see this game as a 
> super flop. The Cowboys and the Bills? Come on. Give me a break. The highlight
> of the game will probably be Michael Jackson's halftime extravaganza! I see
> the Bill's blowing out the Cowboys. Shame Shame. You would think that once
> two teams get to the SB that it could be more evenly matched!! Well, enough
> of the bashing.

If you are trying to flame bait, could you please be more obvious in
your intent? ;-)

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Land of the Giants -- blow out? HA!!  NFC East three-peat!!
From: markl@spuddy.uucp (Mark Liversedge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Folder Niners...See ya!!!
Keywords: thrashed, whipped, suck, poor, cryin'
Date: 20 Jan 93 16:51:50 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain

In article <29EA03P7c9SV00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> tait@uts.amdahl.com (Tait Kirkham) writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.225521.17464@mcc.com> breland@cobweb.mcc.com writes:
[ stuff 'bout niner woofing deleted ]
>>But the mystique is gone, golden boy's going out to pasture, y'all have a
>>White in Young, that 1-15 season's just around the corrrrrnerrrrrr, and let me tell
>>ya...the vindication is sweet, so sweet, the Folder Niners got thrashed and
>>I LIKE IT!!!
>
>
>Did it ever occur to you that you are showing just as little class as the 
>Niner fans showed to you.  Pretty hard to tell the difference, isn't it?
>
The niner fans had no provocation.

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