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From: vigyan@asgard.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Vigyan Singhal)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: FOR SALE: One Way NewYork-LasVegas-Oakland(CA) around 09/02/92
Date: 23 Jul 1992 21:12:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: asgard.cs.berkeley.edu

For SALE:

One way ticket NewYork-LasVegas-Oakland(California) on America West.
Can be used as a one way NewYork-LasVegas is you don't check in lugagge.

Current reservations are:

New York    09/02/92  9.15pm
Las Vegas   09/02/92 11.35pm

Las Vegas   09/03/92  1.43am
Oakland     09/03/92  3.03am

Reservations can be changed free till tomorrow 5pm Pacific time, for $25
after that.  Ticket is in a woman's name (Jaya) but the name is not
annotated by a "Ms."

Make any offer - the best one gets it. The round trip ticket cost $334.

vigyan@ic.berkeley.edu
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From: @ee.surrey.ac.uk (null)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Taxy fares from JFK to Manhattan
Keywords: taxy, bus, rail, tube
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:17:32 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England


 Hi there,

 My lady girlfriend and I will fly to New York (JFK) next October.
 We would like to know the available means of transport to Manhattan 
 from JFK Airport and respective costs.

 		thanx a lot for any useful help,



				Ndedi & Paolo
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: ljing@leland.Stanford.EDU (jing li)
Subject: A dirty mail I received
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 04:35:47 GMT

>From chranasinghe@ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 27 16:32:04 1992
>Return-Path: <chranasinghe@ucdavis.edu>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 13:00:18 -0700
>Message-Id: <9207272000.AA28040@othello.ucdavis.edu>
>To: ljing@leland.stanford.edu
>Subject: Amex Coupons
>Status: R


>You chinease people are so greedy for money
>that you will even sell your own mother to get some money.
>Man this country was built on good christian values
>and dont come here to polute the country.
>get the fuck back to your country and do all the wheeling 
>and dealing there.


Chula H Ranasinghe:

	Fuck you for the above mail.

	I like to give the coupons free.  But I asked $10 because I want to
give them to whom really want.  $10 is a measure of how someone does want.
In my plan, I'll buy the tickets with boarding pass for whom wants the tickets.

	It is YOU, Chula H Ranasinghe, that are poluting the country as
well as good Christian values.

	Fuck you again.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:06:49 EDT
From: <JXO8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject:    Info on Garuda Indonesia Airlines

I thought I posted but didn't see it on the list so apologies if this
is a 2nd posting.  I have a friend leaving this weekend on a vacation
which will take her on Garuda Airlines.  She hasn't found out much
information on the reliability of the airlines.  Any information would
be appreciated to make her vacation less stressful.  Thanks.
From: spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Dominicana Airlines
Followup-To: Article 3420
Date: 23 Jul 1992 15:56:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: yocomputo.berkeley.edu

I took Dominicana Airlines back in 1986 - Miami to Santo
Domingo. Our plane was 5 hours late departing from Miami because
the aircraft in Santo Domingo was missing a part.  Apparently,
they had to fly a part in from Miami to Santo Domingo so our
aircraft could leave D.R. for Miami to pick all of us up. 

I also remember that the aircraft was a composite of different
size seats with no smoking signs in arabic, spanish, and
english. 

Other than that an uneventfful flight.  Feliz viaje.

Dan Landis  (spanga@athena.berkeley.edu)   _____sig.alert______
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:57:18 EDT
From: Windsor A. Morgan <NHT@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: USAir/British Airways Deal

I'm surprised nobody has talked about the USAir - British Airways deal
that was announced yesterday.  I don't know much about it (except what
I read in the papers :-), but it sounds like a good deal for USAir.
USAir could use the money, and British Airways could use the
connections into the US that USAir could provide.

An article in The (Baltimore) Evening Sun on 7-21-92 stated that
British Airways would apply for routes between Baltimore and London,
as well as nonstop from Pittsburgh to London.  Right now, USAir
has the only nonstop service from Baltimore to London and has direct
service from Pittsburgh to London.  Why would USAir allow British
Airways to apply for those routes as well?  I don't think it would be
in USAir's best interests to let British Airways do that.

'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: mujtaba@goose.Stanford.EDU (Syed Aon Mujtaba)
Subject: Re: Bumpy Ride (was: Best Airlines)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:40:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.213921.930@pony.Ingres.COM>, reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:
|> I find I  can sleep better  during turbulence...  in  any event,  it's
|> certainly not  the fault of the  pilot. Listen  to  the cockpit-ground
|> conversations sometimes (on UA  it's often on  channel #9)  and you'll
|> hear the  pilots constantly looking for smoother  altitudes to  fly at
|> and ways around big storms.
|> 					reb

I will flying trans-pacific in about two weeks. How can I tell
which channel carries the cockpit-ground conversations, especially
since in order to find out the channel, I will have to monitor all
the possible channels. 

--Mujtaba
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: TWA again
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:37:40 GMT

In article <31JUL199210310145@ucis.vill.edu> 185422285@ucis.vill.edu (Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366) writes:
>Does anybody have any details about the TWA L1011 accident in New York.
>It was a flight going west. 

All passengers and crew escaped without any harm.  Early reports suggest
that the pilot aborted the take off after the control tower told him
that one of his engines was on fire. 

What I want to know is why that plane broke in half and the fire spread so
quickly?  Guess I will have to wait for a few months.

BTW, on CNNs Moneyline the CEO of Hertz predicted that both TWA and America 
West will be out of business by year's end.

--Ken
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: G0900@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: RE:Tower Air
Organization: CSU
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:52:45 GMT

 
I have just returned from a trip to Greece.  I flew on Tower Air.
This was the first time I flew on this airline.  I usually fly TWA or
a major airline.  I went with a group and the airline was already picked.
On the trip to Greece our flight was delayed 2 hours.  Mechanical problems
they said.  When we got on the plane, the attendants were not very nice
and were rude to me about my carryon luggage.  Clearly there were others
that had larger carry on bags than I but when I pointed that out it didnt
matter.  On the trip back home, we were stuck in the Athens airport for
about 6 hours because on mechanical problems.  When we did get on the
crew was much nicer this time. And I had no trouble with my luggage.
I guess to make up to us for  the delay (they were thinking of keeping us
overnight in a hotel) they feed us at least 4 times, and showed us both
the movies.  Overall I think I will think twice about flying tower air.
I can not say anything definite about the price but what I know is that
it is cheaper than an airline like TWA.  From other people I hear that
Charter flights have more delays than a major airline.  Some for 13 hours,
21 hours and so on.
 
Katherine Pasalis
G0900 at CSUOHIOor G0900 at VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Aero Flot Travel
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 00:55:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.145207.11865@sys.uea.ac.uk> rs@sys.uea.ac.uk (CHE Guest News Login) writes:
  Can you tell me of your experiences on your travel by Aero Flot, in 
  all the respects.
  I would also be interested in any reputed travel agent in England,
  dealing with them.
  Any special info about travel to Moscow or India will be appreciated.

A good friend of mine almost ended up in Tokyo permanently because of a
misprinted two-way ticket that the people at the AF office there refused
to honour ("The Helsinki office didn't yield for us last week, so now
we won't now for them..." -- really, that's what they said !)

Only after he had camped out at their office for a day and it became
obvious that he was not about to budge did they agree to arrange it.

So make 101% sure that your ticket is correct.
-- 
   /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
  /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */
 /* Mail: Kauppakatu 1B18/SF-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N25.44E */
/* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
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From: jneff@stoneys.physci.psu.edu (James Neff)
Subject: Re: Delta Frequent Flyer
Keywords: Delta, Medallion
Organization: Penn State University, Physical Sciences
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:22:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.074544.25479@athena.mit.edu>, davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun) writes:
|> Does anyone know what the award levels are for Delta's MEDALLION
|> (40,000+ miles per year) level awards are?  Delta seems to be unwilling to
|> tell unless you do fly more than 40000 miles on them.  I'm going to be in
|> the 30000+ range this year and was wondering if flying to LA or SF would
|> be worth it. 
|> 
|> 

Basically, you get the same award for half the miles!  The Medallion-level awards
are not as extensive as the regular program, but all the essentials are there.
For example, a domestic RT coach ticket "costs" 20,000 miles.  Sounds good, compared
to the regular program, but all it really does is brings Delta's mileage requirements
in line with other programs.  There are a few goodies (e.g. 2 RT coach to Hawaii for
50K, if I remember right).


Jim Neff
jneff@astro.psu.edu

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From: dkw00@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,ba.market.misc,misc.forsale,su.market,ucb.wanted
Subject: >>>>> $184/$234 RT Air Ticket - Any Cities <<<<<
Date: 26 Jul 92 05:50:48 GMT
Reply-To: dkw00@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Distribution: usa ba su ucb
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Two (2) Continental Travel Coupon.
$149.00 to travel within Western United States or Eastern United States.
$199.00 to travel between Western and Eastern United States.

If interested, please send me your from and to cities to see which fare you
qualify for.

Continental Airlines sometimes check ID on student fare travel.  Probably safer
if you are of Asian nationality.

I believe U.S. Air will accept this coupon too.

Expires 8/31/92

Asking $35.00 for each travel coupon.

Reply to : dkw00@ruts.ccc.amdahl.com
           (408) 746-8080 
           (415) 340-3833 
Xref: sparky rec.travel.air:3355 rec.travel:10495
From: cluck@pollux.usc.edu (Carlos L. Luck)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel
Subject: Air Tickets to Brazil from the West Coast
Date: 21 Jul 1992 17:16:54 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


I'm looking for "affordable" air tickets to Brazil, round trip, for
sometime in the Fall'92. The problem is, the agencies I've contacted so far 
say that if I'm looking for tickets below $1000 I better forget it. 
I've got some information about tickets as low as $500,  but all from either 
Miami or New York.

Well, we have to initiate our trip in Los Angeles, and just the domestic
flight LAX-MIA-LAX kills off the difference, on top of the random 
complications with charter flights.

I would appreciate any suggestion on how to fish a good deal, such as
agencies, airline promotions or alternate routes. 

Thank you in advance.

-- 
Carlos Ludolf Luck <cluck@pollux.usc.edu>
Office: University of Southern California, SAL309 - tel. (213)740-6500
Private: 322 S. Reno St. Apt. 301 - Los Angeles CA 90057, tel. 736-5221
Program: Aspects of Redundant Manipulators - PhD Robotics
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: kells@iis.ethz.ch (Kevin Kells)
Subject: Re: Aero Flot Travel
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:18:22 GMT

>rs@sys.uea.ac.uk (CHE Guest News Login) writes:
>  Can you tell me of your experiences on your travel by Aero Flot, in 
>  all the respects.
>  Any special info about travel to Moscow or India will be appreciated.

I travelled recently Zurich -> Moscow -> Novosibirsk -> Moscow -> Zurich
on Aeroflot, and had no problems. The differences between the Aeroflot
international flights and flights on carriers such as Swissair, Lufthansa,
and American were:

1. Booking the flight (which I did through a travel agent) seemed to be
a little more chaotic than normal.

2. Seating was first-come, first-served even though I had a seat assignment.
There was only one "class" on all the flights (relic of the communist era?). 
All the seats were arranged similar to "economy" seats on other airlines.

3. There was effectively no non-smoking section (even though my seat
was assigned in "non-smoking" and the seat I eventually took was also
in "non-smoking").  People smoked regardless of whether their seats
were in "smoking" or "non-smoking". On the flight to Moscow from
Zurich, luckily a mother of two sitting across the aisle asked the
people around us not to smoke because of the children, and the smokers
complied.

4. The barf bags were ugly military green. :-)

5. The airplane interior smelled funny. I wasn't sure what the smell
was, but I guessed at mildew.

6. The food smelled really bad (I'm lacto-vegetarian, so the meat-like
dish they served would have smelled bad anyway, but I think even an
omnivore would have had doubts before trying to eat it). I did eat the
crackers and butter, both of which were made in the USA (the butter was
Land-o-Lakes, I forget the type of crackers).

7. I was warned to take as much as possible as carry-on because of pilfering.
The rules for what is carry-on and what isn't seemed to be pretty lax, as I
took my normal carry-on bag plus my suitcase onto the plane on all flights.

Some comments on the domestic Aeroflot flights:

1. You've got to change airports to take domestic flights after
arriving at the international airport. I recommend reserving a car to
take you there. 

2. The flight Moscow -> Novosibirsk left about 1.5 hours late and
arrived accordingly late. The return flight left about 5 hours late.
While in Novosibirsk, my academic host was able to change my domestic
return flight date.

Kevin

--
Kevin Kells <kells@iis.ethz.ch>         telephone: +41-1-256-5746
Integrated Systems Laboratory, ETH-Zentrum, CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: USAir/Delta Shuttle Mileage (was USAir/British Airways Deal)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:49:41 GMT

>>Really?  Where did you hear that, and do you have any further details?
>>As a Delta Shuttle frequent flier, I've been increasingly dismayed at Delta's
>>high award levels (yes, I know they credit at least 1000 miles/flight, but
>>so does USAir, and they only require 20,000 miles for a free domestic ticket,
>>I think.)


In article <1992Jul25.031633.13374@athena.mit.edu> davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun) writes:
>                                I must agree that the regular Delta FF
>sucks because of the huge requirements.  I thought that USAir gave 750 mile
>minimums.  If you happen to travel 40000 Delta base miles, the awards
>become significantly better, even a bit better than other FF programs.

Well, USAir's minimum mileage is 750 miles, *except* on its
hourly-service flights, which have a 1000-mile minimum.  Those
hourly-service flights are:

Los Angeles (LAX) - San Francisco (SFO) (The California Shuttle)
Boston (BOS) - Philadelphia (PHL)
Boston - Washington National (DCA)
Boston - Newark (EWR)
Boston - New York LaGuardia (LGA)  (The USAir Shuttle)
Washington National - New York LaGuardia (The USAir Shuttle)

(and, of course, on the return :-).

So, with USAir's 20000-mile level for a round-trip ticket anywhere in
the US or Canada (to where USAir flies), only twenty flights are
needed.

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: USAir/British Airways Deal
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:52:47 GMT

llew@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lew Yan Voon) wrote: 
->what i'm mainly interested in is whether anybody might have any idea
->about it's effect on the mileage program. 

folks, it really is *very* early in the game for this deal ... why not
relax for a few months and wait it out?  getting anxious over this
issue won't make it work out to your advantage.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: labedz@calspan.com (Pauline Ricotta)
Subject: free Hawaii offer, again
Reply-To: labedz@calspan.com
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:54:31 GMT


Has anyone travelled using a 'free' 8 days, 7 nights Hawaii promotion
through American Travel Incentives, Pleasanton, CA??

The 'free' promotions are handed out by big name companies, Kirby Vacuum,
Samsonite Luggage, etc.  The deal is that all 2 people pay is one
round trip Y class airfare.

Has anyone used one of these trips, in particular that offered by
American Travel Incentives?  What kind of good or bad luck was involved?

Please e-mail your reply directly.

Thanks in advance.



-- 
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labedz@calspan.com
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From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Cryin' baby express ... what to do?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:14:00 GMT
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures


 larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>   ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix) wrote: 
>   ->   What's the matter with you people???  Don't you know what those 
>   ->   overhead bins are for?  Children are considered "Carry-On" Luggage.
>   ->   Therefore, they belong in the overhead bin with it latched 
>   ->   properly.  This is just MNSHO(my not so humble opin.)
>
>   i guess this means that families with more than two children must
>   check (N-2) children in the cargo hold?
>
>You can also slide them under the seat in front of you.
>

    Nah, if you do that you can still hear them.  Of course, there's 
    always duct tape for that.


    Ellon


--
Nothin' feels as good, as good as us together.  Nothin' in the world,
no, there ain't nothin' better than this... NEW LOVE! Always feels 
like a new love. Every touch is feelin' so much like the very first
touch. It's like a new love, a new love........  WCS & ESS 4/18/92
From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: TWA
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:53:47 GMT
	<1992Jul26.050401.9218@news.eng.convex.com>
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA

On Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:04:01 GMT, datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) said:
> I've watched for a good while, hoping for a clue, but still haven't figured
> out why some people care what sort of aircraft is used, modulo the possible
> [...?]

While the bargain flyer cares most about the price, frequent flyers can
attest to a great difference between aircraft types.  Among the factors:

* Aircraft age.  Old aircraft are very noisy, and are more likely to have
  interiors that are in poor condition (ugly and/or ripped seats, poorly 
  configured stowage space, scratches, dents, etc).

* Aircraft size.  Widebody aircraft have more stowage space, are generally
  more stable, and both physically and mentally give the passenger the
  illusion of more space.  Most people will find the flight more comfortable
  in a large plane.

* Services.  Newer and/or bigger planes are more likely to have movie 
  screens, more bathrooms, larger galleys, etc.

* Safety/reliability.  Some people do not like to fly on certain aircraft 
  types that have above-average crash statistics.

In real terms: I find a DC9 is just too noisy to fly on for more than
an hour or two.  MD80s don't seem to have enough bathrooms for a 3 hour
flight.  727s tend to have old interiors.  Most 757s, 767s, DC10s have
movie screens.  My office mate refuses to fly on Airbus 320's because 
of their safety record.  Some people won't fly on DC10s because of their
crashes.  

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From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Subject: Re: Little Planes
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:10:50 GMT

On Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:20:01 GMT, hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire) said:
> ...The flight just happens to be
> on one of those little dinky "Express" planes.  I've never had any trouble
> flying before, and I've done quite a bit of it, but I've also never been
> on a small plane run by propellers.  Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous...

Probably the three greatest dangers on an express flight are 
(1) getting airsick, (2) having someone nearby you get airsick and 
(3) not being able to hear anything when you get off the plane.  

Express or commuter airplanes can hold anywhere from about 8 passengers
up to 60.  The smaller the aircraft, the more prone it is to
turbulence.  It doesn't take much turbulence to get an 8 passenger
plane a-rockin'.  (Anyone who has ever ridden in a 2 or 4 seater cessna
or pipercub can tell you that most days it is constant turbulence).
The propellers are very loud--earplugs are a good idea!

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