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From: STOPPIN@UNC.BITNET (Susan L Toppin)
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Subject: TODD RUNDGREN MUSIC
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:17:00 GMT
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Hi!  I am wondering if anyone on the net has heard or knows
of Todd Rundgren?  I am just curious if there are any Todd
fans out there?  Please reply and I would welcome any comments.
I would like to see other discussion besides ones about the Indigo
Girls.  Please add some more variety.
Susan, UNC Chapel Hill
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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Music to Boat by

Am I so old that I'm the only one who remembers Oscar Brand.  Folksinger,
performer of many albums that were entitled something like "Bawdy Songs
and Sea Chanteys".  They actually used dirty words in them!  All the
gang would listen to them and blush in embarassment.  They were
really "hot stuff".

Vo-do-dee-oh.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:31:37 EDT
From:         Jake <ST102315@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      New Thread

As if there weren't enough all ready, I've come up with a new thread...

Many of you have probably had the experience of trying to make a "mix"
tape, i.e. a tape with songs from many different bands on it.  Many of
you have also probably noticed that all mix tapes are not created
equal:  A good mix tape is better than the sum of its individual songs,
while at times you can have a tape which contains all your favorite
tunes and yet just doesn't click somehow.  My challenge is:  What is
the playlist from your best mix tape?

What follows is a list of the songs and artists from one of my sister's
mix tapes which I stole.  It's a good mix.  It's called "Strange Sing-Alongs".

*****side a*****
The Clash: Should I Stay or Should I Go
Chuck Berry: Roll Over Beethoven
Rolling Stones: Sympathy for the Devil
Talking Heads: Psycho Killer
Beatles: Happiness is a Warm Gun
Velvet Underground: Foggy Notion
U2: Party Girl
Squeeze: Cool for Cats
Ray Charles (from Blues Bros. Album): Shake Your Tailfeather
Violent Femmes: Blister in the Sun
REM: Exhuming McCarthy
Elvis Costello: Pump It Up
Peter Gabriel: Sledgehammer

****side b*****
Rolling Stones: Let's Spend the Night Together
Velvet Underground: Lonesome Cowboy Bill
Talking Heads: Swamp
Beatles: Why Don't We Do It In The Road
Chuck Berry: Maybellene
Violent Femmes: Prove My Love
Depeche Mode: New Dress
The Doors: People Are Strange
Jefferson Airplane: Someone to Love
Jimi Hendrix: Purple Haze
Aretha Franklin: Think (Blues Bros. version)
Beatles: Good Day Sunshine
Bob Dylan: Maggie's Farm
Velvet Underground: I'm Sticking with You
Bob Marley: Buffalo Soldier
From: WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
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Subject: Red Devils
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:33:07 GMT
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Just heard a new cut on the radio - a new live album - the cut was called
'Highwayman' and was excellent raw blues. These guys are good! You know,
I think they remind me alot of early Savoy Brown. Good Stuff.
Bye - got to go....
                                  ... walt
From: cbenson@cs.strath.ac.uk (Calum F Benson CS90)
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Subject: Re: Mike Oldfield
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:50:11 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <JANNE.SALMI.92Oct6232712@wolverine.hut.fi> Janne.Salmi@hut.fi (Janne Salmi) writes:
>
>Well... it's got very original synth sounds... and three really good
>songs. Nice choir. The last song "Etude" (originally by this Spanish
>guitarist whose name I forget) is worth having... 

	Francisco Tarrega, if I remember correctly. Which I often don't. I seem
to remember that the Tarrega's version wasn't actuallty just called `Etude',
though; wasn't it something to do with a carousel or some such ?


>but I think it is on the "Complete"... I don't remember if "Evacuation"
> was there too.

	Yep, it's there all right.


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From: MAINT2@ERS.BITNET (Ken Koester)
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Subject: Baltimore Consort candidate for Grammy
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:10:51 GMT
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A from-the-heart plug: if you know of any way to influence the voting,
please do, in favor of these guys--they're great!  (Carol, I think their
next release was recorded after consulting with you.  Or Libby. :-)

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
  The Baltimore Consort was recently notified that the group's second
release, "Watkins Ale:Music of the English Renaissance," has been
selected as a candidate for a 1993 Grammy Award.  The Disc was nominated
by Dorian Recordings and Allegra Imports, and enters a pool of other
classical discs from which several finalists will be selected.
  Last week, the consort recorded a disc of popular French Renaissance
music, which will be released next fall.  The ensemble's third disc, "The
Art of the Bawdy Song," is scheduled to be released on November 1.
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Re: Perfumed ambience
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:56:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson) says:

>  As far as trained musicians and untrained musicians....I guess
>it is my contention that the essence of the music - the part that
>needs to be expressed - is something which a person has with or
>without musical training.  The musical training only gives the person
>the tools for expression.  Rather than sit the trained musician down
>with the untrained musician - train the untrained musician.

  Aha -- you hit me where I live, Sir Tim. 

  Only within the last few years have I started to realize that if I
were *really serious* about effectively and accurately expressing the
music I hear in my head, I would have to go get a bigger toolbox. But
that's a scary proposition for an old-timer who's learned to rely on
all the wrong cues in music, and learned the worst-possible techniques.
I used to use the excuses which Mike stated -- the stiffness I'd heard
in some (I stress, *some*) trained musicians, etc. But then I started
hearing trained players who not only had a lot of "feel" to their 
playing, but also could be counted on to not constantly rehash old
successes. *That's* what I'm after... or wish I were brave enough to
pursue.
  I've reached a state in my playing where I'm relatively secure in my
belief that no teacher can shape my ideas in ways which I don't want them
shaped, however it's still a phobia I haven't overcome. I should know
better. You wouldn't believe the number of times I've told myself I 
would start private lessons with the guitar instructor here (he's great,
too... his students have their shit together, certainly), but I always
procrastinate, saying "maybe next semester, blah blah." I hate even
talking about it here because I *KNOW* how irrational I'm being. I'm 
hoping maybe one of you can shame me into doing it, once and for all.
Go ahead -- make me play.  (boo, hiss)  ;)

>  This goes back once again to the debate we held earlier.
>There is technique, but that is not all there is to music.
>There is the part that makes you go "wow, great!" the part
>that is the expression.  And that exists - not independent of -
>but distinct from the technical aspects of playing or composing.

  You sure said a mindful there -- how utterly true.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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From: watson@HG.ULETH.CA (Maid in Bedlam)
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Subject: a friday deep thought
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:25:25 GMT
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An intense poem for your perusal:

Minimalist Angst As Expressed By Philip Glass
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fuck


Love,
Libby and Da Beer (my muse)
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:40:45 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oscar Brand, SRV, etc

On Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:36:09 EDT <WK7@CORNELLC> said:
>Rob: I actually sat in on a folk music seminardiscussion at Nassau
>Community College during their folk fest, sometime in the mid to late
>70's. He was pretty good, eventhough I really hadn't heard of him.
>
>Scott (no longer colorblind james Hammer: I may be hallucinating, but
>unless you've performed under this moniker fairly recently (last year or
>so) in the Ithaca area, then someone else is using the name. There is a
>band that plays here sometimes, or did, called The Colorblind James
>Experience. Weird, or what...
>
Yes, very weird.  I haven't even been *in* Central NY in almost 10 years;
I haven't performed there in nearly 15.  What kind of stuff does The Colorblind
James Experience do?

-Scott "Next Stop -- The Twilight Zone" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
From: USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (Dave Hall)
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Subject: Re: Irish music/religion
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:38:19 GMT
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On Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:08:13 CDT Paul Heroy said:
>On Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:20:06 CDT Dave Hall said:
>>U2 started out as a political
>>band, but have since given up on that (Political bands don't make much money,
>>just look at Elvis Costello).  Even Bob Dylan's latest work seems to lack
>>it's earlier power and voice.  What's happening here?  Why has speaking
>>out become such a major deal?  And why do we chastise people who do?
>
>U2 did *not* start out as a 'political band'. Their first 2 albums, Boy and
>October, are not political. It's their third album, War, which started their
>political bent. Ironically, it's the one that really broke them out and got a
>lot of attention (and it's still arguably their best). Generally though, I'd
>agree that people speaking out don't tend to have as much commercial success,
>but I'd ascribe it more to the fact that most of those having the gonads to
>state their convictions strongly also have the guts to make music that doesn't
>necessarily follow whatever trendy commercial formula is currently popular.
>
>Paul Heroy
      Good Point and Thanks for the correction.

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From: MAINT2@ERS.BITNET (Ken Koester)
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Subject: Re: A survivor from Warsaw
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:40:30 GMT
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On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:59:14 EDT Rick said:
>On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:40:25 EDT Ken Koester said:
>>Yes, MHB, but Schoenberg didn't write over 500 pieces, did he?  (Quick, what's
>>the BWV number of the Brandenberg concertos?  Time's up!)
>
>     BWV 1046-1051 for the 6 Brandenburgs.
>     What??? Time's up??
>
>     This damn BITNET. It's way too sluggish!!
>
Yeah, it took you 3 whole hours to answer my question!  :-)
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:03:02 EDT
From:         woj <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      rem

RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM sez:
>Can't quite decide on the new R.E.M. single 'Drive'.

it's alright. that bit with the guitar solo and the violins reminds me
od jethro tull for some reason. having just gotten the album this after-
noon, i'm in a position to say that i like the album more than i would
have expected. in fact, excepting a few real clunkers, it's actually
quite good, though not the rock'n'roll that rem founded its rabid fan
base on. me included.

>Heard two other songs from "Automatic For The People" last
>night. Both were better than 'Drive'. One was typical sounding R.E.M.; the
>other was a piano filled tune that sounded like it was ready to fade out at
>any second, but went on for 3-4 minutes.

dunno what the first was, but the second is "nightswimming", which i think
may well be one of the best songs of autumn ever written. very atypical rem
blend of piano and what sounds like an oboe. personally, i think it's gor-
geous and probably the best track on the album.

hmmm. i think the oboe might be a sax now that i think about it.

woj
From: cck1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHRISTIAN CHARLES KAZANECKI)
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Subject: Saigon Kick
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:46:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


    I recently went to see Saigon Kick at L'amour in Brooklyn, and they are
    awesome. Both their albums are incredible. They are a metal band (a little
    on the light side) but have some of the best singing I have ever heard.
    There are two singers, and almost every song has beautiful harmonies, even
    though the music is heavy. They also throw in some good ballads, not the
    typical cheezy Poison/Warrant type. An example of this would be their only
    song to make it to the top forty - "Love is on the Way". I cannot see why
    they are not much popular. Everyone I introduce this band to loves them,
    no matter what their tastes may be. i am just curious to see how well
    known they are, basically if they are known only on the east coast or all
    over the country (They are from Florida!?) So, if you've heard of them -
    let me know. If not give them a try - if you can find them - and let me
    know.

    
-- 

                                                 -- Metal.



   "When you know that your time is close at hand,
     maybe then you'll begin to understand,
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:26:17 EDT
From:         Julie Meloni <JCMELO00@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      More Indigo Girls

Now I'm going to get on my soapbox andNowespond to some of the comments thatd r
have been posted about the Indigo Girls.  First, I want to say that I just
think it's g that the people who have posted comments so far have are all
men (besides myself, of course).  You may raise eyebrows and say, "Well,
what on earth has that got to do with anything?"  You see, A & E never wanted
to be typecast as a certain kind of musical group, because that automatically
takes a certain number of listeners away from them, and the want their music
and their message to go to EVERYONE.  That is exactly why they refuse to play
Women's Music Festivals (like Michigan WMF)--they exclude men and that is not
what A & E want at all.  So, you guys are great for responding and NOT
typecasting and blowing them off.  Okay, that digression is over.

About RITES..., well, yes it IS experimental, but the base is still that of
two acoustic guitars (E's is a full-bodies Martin J-40M, and A's is a rebuilt
1942 Martin O-18, if anyone is interested), with E playing lead and A strumming
her heart out.  But you can't play the same music for the rest of your life,
and they're not CHANGING their sty{le, their BUILDING upon it.  RITES is
consequential in two sense of the word: it follows what they've been doing and
takes their music to different levels, and it also is a base for what is to
come.  Amy brings her alternative rock edge (more on that if anyone wants to
know) to meet E's classical training, at we all know that it is pure beauty.
That's why I think RITES is their best album yet...about there not being a
good single on it, well, what about "Jonas and Ezekiel" or "Let it Be Me"?
What is the need for "one good single" as far as the equation for a great
album?  I don't think they go hand in hand.

About BACK ON THE BUS...it isn't a studio album, and that is why I didn't
include it on the list of albums to listen to in order to get a first look at
their music.  With the exception of A singing "All  Along the Watchtowr," all
of the songs are on studio albums.  To see and hear A & E live is really a
stunning event, as those of us fortunate enough to have seen them will know.
This summer's tour was an act of kindness of their part, because they took
Matthew Sweet along to open for them to see if his career could be jump-
started (Russell Carter is the manager for Sweet as well as A & E, so there
was a little invested interest.).  If  you saw them this summer with Sweet,
you'll note that A just blew him out of the water when she & E came in during
the middle of "Cortez the Killer."

Okay--there's today's lecture.  Anything else?  This is just great--I'm
loving talking about them, so either e-mail me personally or the list--it
doesn't matter, because you'll hear from me about A & E.


  Julie Meloni, Univ of KY
  jcmelo00@ukcc.uky.edu
From: MAINT2@ERS.BITNET (Ken Koester)
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Subject: Music to Boat by
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:28:40 GMT
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I am now the proud owner of a 24' Rainbow class sloop.  And when I sloop--er,
sail--I like to belt out a few lusty sea chanteys from time to time, as
usually no one is within range to object.  Trouble is, I can't think of very
much besides "The Sloop John B." and "Southern Cross", which is my oeuvre of
choice at the moment.  So--in the grand tradition of =ALLMUSIC= lists, send
me your favorite sailing songs!  (Winners will be spared my rendition of same,
I hasten to assure you)  Lyrics aren't necessary right now; if I don't
recognize your song, either I won't sing it or I'll track it down if
need be :-)

Don't delay, hasten those votes in today, folks!

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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:44:43 EDT
From: Wendy L. Hirsch <WH8170A@auvm.american.edu>
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Subject: PRN: His royal Funkiness

I am a Prince FANATIC and I wanna know if theres any women men or both, don't
matter none who you are....let's chat over some smooth moves and slow jams
o'the royal one...new album next week...and God created woman, of which I am.
Trivia welcome...even though I already know it all.  I am the queen mother
Prince woman...I wear purple underwear and sleep in the nuide, it ain't rude, i
t's about the party.
And for those of you who really know your sh*t:

"Yo Stella if you think I'm afraid of you
 Grace, if you so much as think I can't do the do
 Girl...if you dreamed I came to jerk around
 You better wake up...realease it. (funky sax rift)
  Reply at: khirsch@comnet.vcu.edu
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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:52:40 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: you read it, you call it

I listened in on this silly list last week and decided not to stick around.
If folks want to use a hedonistic consumption of music to hide from certain
social and political realities, fine, but I want no part of it.  For instance,
to say that the Pope (as bjh who, writing from Ireland, should know a damn
sight better, says) is merely someone who "at least tries to preach some
basic respect for human life" is to ignore the fact that he is the head of
one of the most powerful *political* (not merely religious, and barely
religious, I'd say) institutions in the world.  Sinead may have her faults,
but I think that she's serious when she sings about child abuse, and if you
see no connection between the Church and child abuse (conceived as broadly
as it needs to be) I'd recommend that you read a little James Joyce, for
instance, since you've closed your mind to O'Connor.  But then, maybe it's
too late for you to see past your conveniently euphemistic understanding of
the Pope.  Let's be honest:  Don't O'Connor and Madonna bug you because they
are virtually the only women covered by worldwide media who refuse to act
in the compliant ways you think women should.

Sincerely Goodbye,
Michael McDonald
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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Subject: Re: Blues - Put up or Shut up
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:07:50 GMT
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:36:38 EDT Jake said:
>>So now it's put up or shut up....admit your wrong and can't do it or
>>fill my mailbox.......What you gonna do......I'll be waiting L.W.
>>
>>P.S. don't get fired up and start trying to flame me or something stupid
>>like that...just mail it and i'll send a reveiw to the board.
>
>Truthfully speaking, if you don't want to get flamed, you might want to
>try being a bit less scornful and contemptuous in this.

I don't mind being flamed at all
i would not like to be flamed by certain people on this group because i have
a lot of respect and admiration for them so if they flamed me i'd be bothered
but most of the people that i've been flamed by don't really matter to me..L.W.