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Subject: Re: "Bay Fog" Blankets the Earth/UFO's
From: ryancmcc@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 25 Jul 92 16:56:49 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <1466900269@igc.org>, cgilbert@igc.org (Claire Gilbert) writes:> 
>                       Material herein from
>          _Blazing Tattles_, Vol. 1, Issue 12, July 1992.
>                  Published by Claire W. Gilbert
> 
>                   "BAY FOG" BLANKETS THE EARTH
Much omitted to save bandwidth...

>... but I wouldn't listen to "reason."

Again...much omitted to save bandwidth...

>      Do I have a hunch what is causing it?  Sure I do.
>      My hunch is that it is the unburned hydrocarbons evaporating
> from the billions of gallons of crude sitting on the desert floor
> in Kuwaiti (and Iraqi?) oil lakes.  

Oh sure... next you'll be telling us that the exhaust from UFO's is the "REAL"
cause for the ozone layer "depletion".  Please... let's talk about
SCI.GEO.METEOROLOGY

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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Re: What causes the yellow?
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:39:07 GMT
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera

In article <24937@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>, wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson) writes:
>The usual afternoon thunderstorm buildup occurred yesterday with
>a large one in the early stages as it passed overhead here in
>Denver as headed to the east. As I looked at the underside, I noticed
>the usual twisted, boiling, texture, but mixed in among the white and
>grey was yellow. This was reported by radio amateurs on the severe
>weather net so it must be a common occurrance in pre-tornadic activity.
>What is it? And what does it mean to a tornado chaser?

I don't know what causes it, but it seems to be pretty common in hailstorms and
unseasonal snowstorms.
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Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
From: walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker)
Subject: Lightning detection equipment
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:20:55 GMT

The other day, after a heavy round of thunderstorms had passed through
the area, the local news showed us a computer screen that they said was
from the electric company that showed each strike of lightning.  What it 
looked like was a map of the region (NYCity south to Washington, West to 
Pittsburgh and east to the Atlantic), over which little tiny diamonds were
popping up.  In fact, there was a line of hundreds of these little diamonds
about 20 miles wide marching across S.E. Pennsylvania at the time of this
showing.  
   My question is, what is this "lightning detection equipment" they are
referring too?  Also, they said there had been over 4000 strikes in a
one hour period or something like that.  How does this all work?  It looked
pretty fascinating to me.  Anyone else have a picture of this kind of thing?

Scott
******************************************************
Scott C. Walker
walkersc@esvax.dnet.dupont.com

+++The few opinions I express are not the opinions of my employer.
"What's settled down?  Settled down is you get married and then you buy a
house.  You can get a wood house, a plaster house or a stucco house.  
Oh, how you can get stucco!"  - David Lee Roth, on Rockline
******************************************************
From: shipman@zippy.gso.uri.edu (Scott Lindstrom)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Re: reporter hit by lightning
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:13:58 GMT
Reply-To: shipman@zippy.gso.uri.edu (Scott Lindstrom)
Organization: U of Rhode Island, Graduate School of Oceanography

In article <1992Jul22.183014.17649@news.iastate.edu>, jbhuber@iastate.edu
(Joseph B Huber) 
$>I heard that (yesterday?) a Florida TV reporter was partially hit by
lightning
$>while taping a segment outside during a storm. 
$>
$>One of the local TV stations here showed the video tape of the incident, but
I
$>missed it.
$>
$>Does anyone have any details on this, or actually see the tape of the
$>incident?
$>

They showed that on the TV here.  He was filming in a storm, under an umbrella,
there was a spark/flash and he dropped the microphone.  The local anchor said
the bolt had struck the remote van and traveled along the mic cord to the guy's
hand.  Although why this didn't knock out the electronics in the van is a
mystery.  Or a testimony to surge protection.

Scott
--
.sig?  what .sig?

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From: stumpf@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Greg Stumpf)
Subject: Re: What causes the yellow?
Organization: National Severe Storms Laboratory
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:58:06 GMT

In article <24937@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>, wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson) writes:
>The usual afternoon thunderstorm buildup occurred yesterday with
>a large one in the early stages as it passed overhead here in
>Denver as headed to the east. As I looked at the underside, I noticed
>the usual twisted, boiling, texture, but mixed in among the white and
>grey was yellow. This was reported by radio amateurs on the severe
>weather net so it must be a common occurrance in pre-tornadic activity.
>What is it? And what does it mean to a tornado chaser?

Do you remember what time of the day this event occurred?  If perhaps it was
near sunset, you could have been observing the yellow light of the sun filter-
ing through translucent parts of the cloud deck.  I assume what you were 
observing was base of a shelf cloud which typically is not very "thick"
and can allow light to pass through it in spots.

Odd-colored clouds do not necessarily mean a tornado is going to occur.
I have observed tornadoes in which the clouds were your typical shades
of grey.  However, I have notices on many occasions that precip cores
in some intense hailstorms have a very pronounced aquamarine tinge to them.
I think this has something to do with the refraction of the light by the
ice chunks, but I'm not really sure.

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From: stumpf@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Greg Stumpf)
Subject: Re: Tornado Questions
Organization: National Severe Storms Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:10:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.134342.11408@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) writes:
>harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris) asks... 
>
><1- what was the longest-lasting single tornado?
>
>This is a matter of opinion, as many long track tornadoes once thought to 
>have been on the ground continuously are now thought to have skipped a bit,
>or even dropped from different wall clouds. Woodward ('47), The Great Tri-
>State (Missouri/Illinois/Indiana -1926? I'm going on w/o references), and 
>several others with long tracks are now thought to be the work of more than
>on tornado, and a lot of the damage from the Tri-State is thought to have
>actually resulted from extreme downbursts.  'Officially', I think the
>Woodward tornado was the longest, with a path of about 250??? miles, but 
>since it occurred at night across the lone plains (Texas Panhandle, NW 
>Oklahoma, and S Kansas), no one can be sure if it was a single tornado.  As
>for longest lasting tornado in terms of time, I'm not sure, but the usual
>suspects above are up there on the list, as are the same caveats.

This situation arose days after the Hesston KS event of March 13, 1990.
The family of tornadoes from the one supercell (4 I believe) was originally
incorrectly reported as one tornado with a 120-mile or so track lasting two
or more hours.  It was funny to hear this, even after CNN was showing video 
of a tornado occlusion and subsequent new tornado formation from the same
storm.  I guess the initial perception of "connect-the-dots" was in order
until a more detailed survey could be done (surveys of the kind weren't 
conceived yet back in 1926).

However, I know that it is not uncommon to get a long tracked tornadoes
approaching 60 or 70 miles continuous (as was the case on April 26, 1991).
Some scientists feel that this may be the near the limit, but of course one
case doesn't define the rest.

(stuff deleted)

>It probably is a good thing I'm wingin' it on this response, as I hope
>it will generate some kind of meaningful discussion (nudge nudge, say
>no more, know what I mean, know what I mean, nudge nudge?)

he asked him knowingly,


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From: maths@uk.ac.uea (Mathematics)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology,sci.environment
Subject: Lectureship in Environmental/Applied Mathematics
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:33:57 GMT
Organization: University of East Anglia
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UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA
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LECTURESHIP IN MATHEMATICS

Applications are invited for the post of Lecturer in Applied Mathematics
from 1 October 1992 or at a later mutually agreed date, for fixed term of
four years. The person appointed will be expected to have  research
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their mathematics to a branch of Environmental Sciences.

It is expected that the initial salary will be on the Lecturer A scale
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Applications (three copies), giving full particulars of age,
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From: an565@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Grosshans)
Subject: Re: Stupid statements
Reply-To: an565@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Grosshans)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 01:57:14 GMT


In a previous article, mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) says:

>I picked this up off the computer today...
>
>SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT  
>NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX  
>600 PM CDT MON JUL 27 1992  
>  
>AT 600 PM CDT...STORM SPOTTERS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX WERE  
>OBSERVING A POSSIBLE FUNNEL CLOUD NEAR ARLINGTON MOVING EAST AT 15 MILES  
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>AN HOUR. THE THUNDERSTORM PRODUCING THE ROTATING FUNNEL CLOUD IS ASSOCIATED  
>WITH A MOIST TROPICAL AIRMASS AND STRONG ROTATING UPDRAFTS. THIS FUNNEL  
>CLOUD IS NOT EXPECTED TO DEVELOP TO GROUND LEVEL AND SHOULD REMAIN ALOFT  
>BEFORE DISSIPATING BY 630 PM CDT.  
>( an interesting forecast, considering he's not there to evaluate the
>  possible funnel )
>  
>*Near* Arlington????  Geeeeze!  That could be anywhere within a 200
>square mile area!  I know the situation isn't really that serious, as
>the possible funnel was probably bogus (anyone spotter who reports a
>funnel, yet places his location as 'near Arlington' can't be too 
>reliable), or a landspout, but do these guys think they could maybe get
>the location a little closer than that?  This may also be another case
>of an inexperienced intern writing statements (not to say I have a lot
>of experience... I don't write 'em, just broadcast 'em).
>
>Thoughts?  Ideas? 
>
>Anyone... anyone?

A couple of comments on the above response in regards to location of events
and references to funnel clouds.

If memory serves me correctly references to funnel clouds are not suppose
to be included in statements (and the same for 'hook echo') or warnings.
Many people think they see wall clouds, funnels and/or tornadoes when 
they really aren't (as has been mentioned many times before).

One method used for the communication of storm data between the public/CD
/police/etc to the NWS is NAWAS.  All to often a warning point will call
a WSO or WSFO to relay information that they have received.  The NWS will
ask for specifics that the warning point does not have because they
didn't ask or were not told the information.  

Gregg Grosshans
an565@cleveland.freenet.edu     
                               -_-_Normal Disclaimers_-_-


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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Re: Sign in Conn.
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:28:21 GMT
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera

In article <9946@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.172954.16598@ncar.ucar.edu> ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu  
>(Ilana Stern) writes:
>
>+ The moral of the story is:  never ask a meteorologist for directions.

But, given the way they predict weather, who'd ask them for directions about
anything anyway? :-)
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: cgilbert@igc.org (Claire Gilbert)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Further to:  "How Scientists 'Know
Date: 21 Jul 92 03:18:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1466900266:000:1959
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cgilbert    Jul 20 20:18:00 1992


                      Material herein from
         _Blazing Tattles_, Vol. 1, Issue 12, July 1992.
                 Published by Claire W. Gilbert

             FURTHER TO:  "HOW SCIENTISTS 'KNOW'..."

     In the previous issue of Blazing Tattles, we discussed how
scientists "know" what they know.  An example was provided
regarding how they know the upper atmospheric haze is entirely from
the Mt. Pinatubo eruption.  Larry Stowe of the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) had provided a good example of
how conclusions are based upon the work of other scientists.  I
spoke with Stowe, who is located in Washington, D.C., when I was in
his area in early June.  To my astonishment he said the following:
     "I plan to investigate your hypothesis that aerosols from
Kuwaiti oil fires did surround the globe.
     "We'll investigate our data set to see what the distribution
of aerosol was from that smoke."
     The above refers to the fact that the Kuwaiti oil fires were
started beginning in late January of 1991, whereas the volcano of
Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines erupted in July of the same year,
sending up a massive amount of debris and gasses to the
stratosphere, where it takes a year or several years for them to
disappear.  Most experts (though not all) have taken the position
that since the Mt. Pinatubo eruption(s) was (were) so massive, the
smoke from Kuwait and Iraq oil well fires and bombings either (a)
could not be measured or (b) was insignificant.
     Stowe had noticed in his data increased "albedo" over the
Pacific Ocean prior to the Mt. Pinatubo eruption, but had not
formally analyzed it because he did not think it was meaningful. 
Now he is going to.  Stowe is the person who deals with global
data, and plans to study "cloud-free reflections over the oceans"
to see if he can find evidence that Kuwaiti smoke surrounded the
globe, as far as can be determined with available data.
     --Claire Gilbert
From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology,rec.travel
Subject: Ahaggar, Algeria climatology?
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:16:38 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I notice persistent cloudiness in the Ahaggar mountain area in
southern Algeria. Since this is essentially in the middle of the
Sahara I'm a bit surprised! Can someone educate me as to what is
occurring?

The atmosphere on the west side of the range shows some lighter shades
and a hint of vorticity this morning. Ideas? Thanks!
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From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Subject: Re: Tornado Questions
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:38:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na

If I wanted to see data about a tornado, I'd have to consider only the
very recent tornado data is being very useful.  We have more improved
methods in all areas, and a better network of spotters to confirm or
deny things with, than in years before.  But I cannot pin down a specific
number of years since it is a gradual thing and is likely to be that
way for a long time.

A long time ago, when 2 communities near each other got hit by a tornado,
they just assumed it was the same one (as long as it was in the same line
of storms).  But now we want to know if it was different cells.  Maybe one
was forming with the other was clobbering the first town.  This is stuff
we want to know now days for issuing warnings.
-- 
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| depending on government is that you cannot depend on it" - Tony Brown |
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From: cpbeaure@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Beauregard)
Subject: Re: Forecasting error (was: Stupid statements)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:43:41 GMT

In article <10017@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.183901.24581@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>  
>hannegan@hyperion.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bryan Hannegan) writes:
>
>+ I remember when I was working at WSFO Los Angeles a couple years back, I
>+ did some pretty big boo-boos myself....like taking a telephone call about 
>+ some flooding and going right on the air with it... despite the fact that 
>+ it was as blue of sky and clear of cloud as it gets in LA... seems some
>+ bonehead called us because a nearby water main flooded his house and he
>+ hadn't looked outside (neither did I for that matter!)
>
>I was always told that looking out the window is one of the last
>things one does before issuing that local forecast... :)

Perhaps this is why I've never seen a weather station with a window.
I'll always remeber those times I walk up to a Met at work and tel them
it's raining outside.  "Oh, is it?"

>James

Chris Beauregard                                cpbeaure@cayley.waterloo.edu
Differently Expressed:  The politically correct term for politically
correct people.
Newsgroups: sci.comp-aided
Subject: All my favourite tools
From: ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thomas Koenig)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:19:16 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

What do you think essential or very useful computer tools for today's
scientist?

In the 'essential' category I would include a spreadsheet, a good graphics
package, a FORTRAN compiler with NAG, IMSL or equivalent libraries and a
word processor capable of producing high - quality formulas.

In my 'extremely useful to have' category are two UNIX utilities: awk
for manipulating data in tabular form and make for maintaining all the
different sort of files often associated with a single experiment. Also
very useful is a symbolic math program like Mathematica or Maple.

I suppose that more statistically inclined people will also need a good
statistics package.

Anything I've missed?
-- 
Thomas Koenig, ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz, ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
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From: mcgrant@isl.stanford.edu (Michael C. Grant)
Subject: Re: All my favourite tools
Organization: Information Systems Laboratory, Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:35:58

In article <24941@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) writes:
   In article <1992Jul27.081916.11923@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz>,
   ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thomas Koenig) writes...
   >What do you think essential or very useful computer tools for today's
   >scientist?
   > 
   >Anything I've missed?

   Sure.  A laser printer, a C compiler (with interactive debugger), and a
   Mac. 

Don't forget a computer! :-)

Mike
Newsgroups: sci.comp-aided
From: pms@eng.cam.ac.uk (Philip.M. Sargent)
Newsgroups: sci.comp-aided
Subject: Re: All my favourite tools
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:10:31 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

(Obvious) you missed "Access to Internet".
I would delete the fortran compiler (or any compiler, pretty much) and give
Mathematica a much higher priority.
--Philip
--
-Philip Sargent
Cambridge University Engineering Dept., Design Centre & Materials Group
From: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: sci.comp-aided
Subject: Re: All my favourite tools
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:38:41 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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In article <1992Jul27.081916.11923@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz>, ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thomas Koenig) writes...
>What do you think essential or very useful computer tools for today's
>scientist?
> 
>Anything I've missed?

Sure.  A laser printer, a C compiler (with interactive debugger), and a
Mac. 

-Scott
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Scott I. Chase			"The question seems to be of such a character
SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		that if I should come to life after my death
				and some mathematician were to tell me that it
				had been definitely settled, I think I would
				immediately drop dead again."      - Vandiver
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