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From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:17:51 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1993Jan06.005419.5049@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus) writes
:
>Gerry Palo (gpalo@digi.lonestar.org) wrote:
>: In article <1993Jan02.042224.5134@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mik
>e A. McAngus) writes:
>: >Thomas Price (tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu) wrote:

    [quoted material deleted.  Following quotes are McAngus's comments to 
     my remarks].

>Until you demonstrate that "supersensible or clairvoyant vision" is a real 
>phenomenon, it all sounds like superstitious mumbo-jumbo to me.
>

I don't intend to demonstrate it.  I just wanted to offer a conceptual
alternative to that of  a kind of mechanical dictation from above, which
is often the starting point for discussion.  You are entitled to your
suspicions.

>>Assuming you buy the idea that JC actually existed and actually rose from the 
>dead.
>
Again, this begs the question.  I was pointing out alternative possibilities,
not trying to prove them.

>Why would the idea of fabrication put one into a "materialistic straitjacket"?
>
>
The materialistic straitjacket I was speaking of is more that of the
defenders of biblical inspiration.  The atheistic/skeptical position 
tends to be materialistic at the outset. That is given.  If inspiration
is seen as this kind of stenographic dictation process where a divine
being, more or less in the form of a human being, simply telegraphs
literal words to an evangelist or prophet, this is a materialistic strait-
jacket.

>Hey, the wholey bable is "the word of god".
>
Do I detect a subtle note of irony here?
>
>Until someone demonstrates that other "states of conciousness" actually reflect
>reality, I will go with that reality that is observable.

Do you want it on a platter, or are you interested enough to put forth a
little effort to find out?

Regards,
Gerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
From: tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price)
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:00:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.203913.12465@engage.pko.dec.com> pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius) writes:
>
>>        ... By
>>      unfairly blaming the Jews, the Gospel stories precipitated 2,000
>>      years of Christian antisemitism.
>
>The Gospel stories never blame the Jews for the condemnation of Jesus.
>Gospels blame the Roman-appointed high priest for that crime.  Anyone
>who has the slightest idea of the history knows that the high priests in
>that period were Roman puppets hated by the rabbis and the Jewish populace.
>By equating the high priest with the Jews, the critics have exposed their own
>total ignorance of the history.

Matthew 27:24-25

	When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather 
	a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the 
	multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person:
	see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be
	on us, and on our children.

Cordially,

      Tom Price   |    tp0x@cs.cmu.edu   |   Free will? What free will? 
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From: lwb@cs.utexas.edu (Lance W. Bledsoe)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Bo Gritz vs Chip Berlet
Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:02:29 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1993Jan11.090412.20205@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Given that Gritz has been wrong about everything that is checkable,
>what makes you think he's truthful about this one?  Especially when
>Gritz has *no* evidence of his claims.

I'm sorry, you're wrong.  I've seen MUCH evidence of Bo's claims.  With
reguard to the CIA drug running charges; I have a videotape of Bo Gritz
interviewing Burmese drug lords that flatly identify their contacts in
the US as former CIA and state department officials.

I wish it WERN'T true, but...

>Gritz is just a con-man trying to get money out of you the way he
>got money out of Ross Perot.

I don't think that Bo Gritz ever go any money from Perot.  And if
he did it was probablly to help find POWs in Southeast Asia.

The problem is not people like Gritz, who dedicate their lives trying to
keep us all free, but people like you that spread misinformation.

At what point did George Washington turn from a terrorist to a patriot?

Lance

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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism.d,misc.legal,alt.politics.bush,alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: Weinberger's Pardon
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:54:40 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com (Patrick J. McGuinness) writes:
>>
>>war.  The FDR claims aside, clearly the LBJ lies were the worst since
>>they lead to our involvemant in that hideous fiasco in Southeast Asia.


I agree that LBJ's lying about the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a terrible
thing.  However, it did not "lead to our involement in Southeast Asia"-
we were involved there by the time JFK and LBJ took office.  Both this
and the Bay of Pigs project were inherited problems from the Ike
administration.  LBJ's escalation of the war was also done legally through 
the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, approved unanimously by Congress.  That 
is different from running a covert war that was against an act of Congress.  

>Actually, FDR's greater violation of law and Congressional intent was
>his support of Great Britain prior to our involvement in WWII, which
>violated the Neutrality Act.

FDR supported Britain legally through the Lend-Lease Act.   He did not
run a covert war against Germany contrary to the wishes of Congress.

>LBJ: Read "Path to Power" by Robert Caro. It details how he stole the 1948
>election.

Yes, he did steal the election, after an earlier election had been
stolen from him.  Texas politics was very corrupt at the time.  If you
wanted to get elected to office, you had to steal the election.  This
does not make it right, but it does explain why he did it.  Again, 
however, I don't see what this has to do with Iran-Contra.  

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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: RSA/DSI+PKP=NSA
Date: 10 Jan 1993 08:53:14 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia) - Anonymous Service
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I have been asked to comment about running PGP on palmtops.

The following apply to the 1mb model of the HP95lx.
Rest of configuration is as follows 
PCMIA slot 5mb DOUBLECARD Drive

PCBUDDY was in use to provide for macro facilities PGP 2.1 released version
was used. 
Key Generation Times are somewhat lengthy if that bothers you
generate your keys on a fast platform such as a SUN Viking in single
user mode.  Other than that message encryption times and decryption times
are reasonable. I expect to be posting benchmarks at a later point.
In addition the HP95 has a 38.4 Q-blazer and acoustic coupler waiting for it
as well as a motorola infotac(awaiting delivery) and a micro sized packet
rig.
the q-blazer awaits a custom cable build to hook direct to the HP 95.
Following that NOSHP95 will be used for 4800bps interconnects under slip
(The NOS drivers need rewrites and the HP95 has wierd serial port INTRs)
AT present a Null modem assembly allows transmittal of secure email to
a SUN IPX for transmittal.
more later
     
    go in peace
    jensen

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From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Query: Document on AIDS as a biotech mistake?
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:50:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.042805.25688@scic.intel.com> sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth "Gimpy" Bradley) writes:
>In article <C0M0sJ.M8q@iat.holonet.net> timper@iat.holonet.net (Tim Perkis) writes:
>>I'm looking for a document which I've heard exists but never have seen.
>>Supposedly an(East) German biochemist wrote a technical report on why
>>he thought HIV was a synthetic virus.
>
>Sheesh, not this one again.  There are human HIV positive specimens dating
>back to the 1950's.  Genetic engineering didn't exist in the 50's.  This
>is one of the most readily refuted conspiracy theories.

	I read an interview with this guy in the Berline Tageszeitung
	a few years ago.  His evidence was flimsy to say the
	least and readily refuted.  In addition, the Soviet defector
	Oleg Gordievsky has described how the Soviets started
	a propaganda campaign to convince people that HIV was made
	at Fort Detrick.

	Alec Chambers
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
From: pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius)
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:35:47 GMT

In article <C0G7Lo.4GE.1@cs.cmu.edu> tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price) writes:
>
>Matthew 27:24-25
>
>	When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather 
>	a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the 
>	multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person:
>	see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be
>	on us, and on our children.

I don't understand your purpose of quoting this passage ...
But, anyway, the crowd mentioned in this passage must be the pro-Roman
partisans of the Roman-appointed high priest.   The fact they could
shout in unison is indicative of two things:

(1) The crowd wasn't very large, probabily not beyond several hundreds,
    if not smaller.  A large crowd can NOT shout in unison.

(2) The crowd was highly organized.   Only a highly organized crowd can
    shout in unison.

All evidences point to the Roman-appointed high priest as the organizer
of this small band of pro-Roman partisans (i.e. traitors to the Jewish
nation), who wanted to do away with Jesus simply because Jesus inspired
so much nationalistic sentiment, as evidenced by His triumphant entry
into the city of Jerusalem.  In this sense, Jesus died a nationalistic
hero of the Hebrews.  The nationalistic fever among the earliest
followers of Jesus is evident in the pages of the New Testament and
did not escape the notice of the scholars.  Some scholars, such as
Prof. Robert Eisenman (Cal. State U.) and Prof. Michael Wise (U.
Chicago), would even try to speculate on the link between the earliest
followers of Jesus and the Zealots (Reference: Biblical Archaeology
Review, January/Feburary 1993, pp. 60-61).  I would not go that far,
and in my view, the Divine Mission of Jesus was certainly misunderstood
by His nationalistic followers before His Crucifixion and Resurrection.
It was gradual process that His followers came to realize and comprehend
the significance of His Work and Person, and that His goal was beyond
just the restoration of the nation of Israel.  Anyway, my point is
that the earliest followers of Jesus exhibited strong nationalistic
fever, and it was this nationalistic fever, especially that outpouring
at His entry into Jerusalem, which greatly troubled the Roman-appointed
high priest and his pro-Roman partisans, who recognized the _potential_
of this nationalistic sentiment inspired by Jesus' messianic claim.
And I might add that Pilate, being a person who only recognized the
power of the sword, did not fully comprehend the _potential_ of the
messianic claim in the Jewish context, and thus did not treat Jesus
as a real threat.


Regards,
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-- Publius
Disclaimer: These opinions are mine, all mine, mine alone.
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From: melchar@shakala.com (Barbara Haddad)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.bush,alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: Execute Amy Fisher!!!
Date: 9 Jan 93 03:32:24 GMT
Organization: Shakala BBS (ClanZen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 408-734-2289

sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Need I say more?  We've got to do something about murderers!
> 
> Simon
> 

      Please no!!  Then they'd do even _more_ movies on the bimbo!

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From: tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price)
Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:04:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.203913.12465@engage.pko.dec.com> pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius) writes:

>Anyone
>who has the slightest idea of the history knows that the high priests in
>that period were Roman puppets hated by the rabbis and the Jewish populace.

The who? I thought rabbinism wasn't a meaningful force until the destruction
of the Temple and the end of Temple-centered worship. What rabbis?

>... the critics have exposed their own total ignorance of the history.
>
>
>Regards,
>-- 
>For Christ and His Kingdom
>-- Publius
>Disclaimer: These opinions are mine, all mine, mine alone.


      Tom Price   |    tp0x@cs.cmu.edu   |   Free will? What free will? 
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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.atheism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: contradictory nature of free will and omni-anything
Keywords: Signs
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:50:39 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <0Yf=kJB@engin.umich.edu> ingles@engin.umich.edu (Ray Ingles) writes:

> Now, my parents met, got married, and had me. This choice is done, it
>cannot be changed, right? But if this choice is fixed, does it mean that
>they didn't have free will then, at that time? Of course not. When that
                                                Oh yes it does.
>was the present, they could make their own choices, just as we at this
>moment can make our own choices.

If, of course, you're going to believe in some being omniscient across time.
Lucky there isn't one, really.

        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory 
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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Execute Amy Fisher!!!
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:09:44 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:

>In <1993Jan8.150808.6452@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:

>Actually Amy Fisher only wounded the woman.  Seriously wounded, but I believe
>she made a complete recovery.
>On a side note.  A local talk show host once made this point.
>If you have a lesser penalty for attempted murder, than you do for murder,
>aren't you rewarding the guy based on his incompetance.
>Do we have a lesser penalty for attempted bank robbery?

Actually, the victim wanted the plea bargain.  Apparently, if Amy had 
been convicted of a more serious crime, her medical insurance would not
have paid her hospital bills.  She would have been required to
file a civil suit against Ms. Fisher.  At least that's what the
Bottonfucos said on TV the other night.


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Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13685 talk.politics.misc:66153
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Pope John Paul II
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:39:42 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

dah@cveng121.veheng.det wrote:
> Is it true that Pope John Paul II once worked for the I.G. Farben Chemical
> Company that sold cyanide and other poisonous gases (Zyklon B, Malathion)
> to the Nazis in the 1940's.

Since Zyklon B is potassium cyanide, which is not a gas, and malathion is a
liquid insecticide of minimal toxicity to humans that the Nazis never used on
people, your source needs some checking up on... where did you read this?

The Pope has made a fair number of explicitly anti-semitic remarks much
more recently than WW2, and it would be in character if he'd been involved
in anti-Jewish actvities back then (either with the Nazis or with the right-
wing Polish Army, which excluded Jews), but still I'd like to see something
a bit more solid than this...


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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Execute Amy Fisher!!!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:24:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.150808.6452@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>
>
>
>Need I say more?  We've got to do something about murderers!
>
>Simon
>


Simon is a good example of someone going off half cocked for the death
penalty.  As far as I am aware, the victim survived, and Amy Fisher
didn't actually kill anyone.  I am sure if this is incorrect, I'll
hear about it, though :-).


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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: niepornt@bird.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Weinberger's Pardon
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:46:09 GMT

In article <markp.725749195@dragonfly.wri.com> markp@dragonfly.wri.com (Mark Pundurs) writes:
>In <1992Dec30.195442.29596@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:
>>In <bhayden.725732024@teal> Bruce Hayden, bhayden@teal.csn.org writes:

>>>And $31 million dollars. After all, aren't all conservative
>>>republicans greedy?

>>Do you really think that is his salary????   :-/

>No; that's how much of OUR money he's blown on his charade. (Bet his salary
>is hefty, though...)

Funny, but I didn't see too many conservatives complaining about the
money George Bush spent on Operation Approval Rating.  I mean Just
Cause.  Where we decided to blow up large parts of Panama City and
destroy their military so Bush could get revenge on Manuel Noriega for
not being a good enough CIA agent.

And then the time and money spent prosecuting Noriega.  Especially all
those grants of immunity to people in exchange for testimony.

>>>Which laws are you talking about? Jaywalking? Lying to Congress?

>>Lying to Congress, embezzling government funds, circumventing national
>>policy, ....

>Charge #1. Maybe.

What do you mean, maybe?  Many of the participants even admitted it.
Though I liked Eliot Abrams' rationalization.  When asked if foreign
countries were donating money to the contras, he said no, because they 
had mixed up the bank account numbers, and the money hadn't actually
gotten to the contras.

>Charge #2. Bull! It's not clear that PROFITS from arms sales are "government
>	   funds; and the money was LEGALLY spent furthering foreign policy 
>	   goals. (The much-ballyhooed Boland Amendment didn't apply to
>	   the NSC -- and didn't enact any penalties for infractions.)

Whose funds could they possibly be besides the owners of the arms?  You
mean, if I take your car and sell it, I can keep some of the money I
sold it for?  How interesting.

And the Boland Amendment most certainly *did* apply to the NSC.  Actually,
the NSC wasn't authorized to conduct *any* operations, but assuming it
did, it was certainly limited by a law that forbid all departments and
agencies form aiding the contras.

>Charge #3. Aiding the Contras WAS national policy: it was the Administration's
>	   policy, and the on-again-off-again Congress had no policy.

The Boland Amendment refutes this claim.

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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Bo Gritz vs Chip Berlet
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:04:12 GMT

In article <1io3aoINNrb4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes:
>
>With Steve Crocker I too would like to see any evidence you have that Bo
>Gritz is wrong about top government officials being involved in drug
>trafficking for the purpose of financing covert operations.
>
>And just dismissing Gritz as a crackpot or lunatic doesn't really prove
>he isn't telling the truth.

Given that Gritz has been wrong about everything that is checkable,
what makes you think he's truthful about this one?  Especially when
Gritz has *no* evidence of his claims.

Gritz is just a con-man trying to get money out of you the way he
got money out of Ross Perot.
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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #80 of 80
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:03:37 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

Thank God, done at last.  Maybe now my disk can begin to recover.

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a government.
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