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From: bds@mbunix.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: help needed in picking a puppy
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:08:57 GMT


I have a question for the net.  We have Jasper, a neutered male
Weimaraner (to be 1 year old January 3) and are going to get another
from the same breeder (same parents).  The litter is due any day now,
and we have pick of the litter.  

Jasper is about 80 pounds, is strong as an ox, and is used to being an
only child.  He is crated during the days when we work, but is very
active when out of the crate.  He has shown himself to be of good
temperament with other dogs, and is more interested in playing than
anything else.  I have no way of knowing if he will feel threatened by
a puppy in his house, but I don't anticipate it based on his actions
away from his house.

So my question is, when we go to see the litter, and there are all
these little Weimaraners that pretty much look like fat little
sausages running around, how do we pick which one we want?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Barry
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Doggie Odors
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 19 Dec 92 07:34:39 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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Another thread made me think of this.  Y'know, I actually *like* the way my dog
smells when she's clean, healthy, happy, unstressed, etc.  In fact, sometimes I
can tell when there's something wrong with her just by a change in her smell. 
I don't know if this is wierd or not, but for me, one of the delights of
playing with my dog includes the experience of sniffing her (I don't mean her
genitals, like another dog would do, or her face, in which case she'd probably
start licking my nose, but I mean burrowing my own nose in her fur & actually
sniffing her own unique doggie smell).  This may sound even wierder, but I
remember feeling this way about my (human) Daughter, too, when she was an
infant (she's now a teenager; she'd KILL me if she knew I said this on an
international computer network).  I hope I am not 'fessing up to some kind of
wierdo fetish or something, but I like the way my doggie smells.  I think that
is part of the bonding experience.  Anyone else ever notice this?

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: want info on Australian Shepards
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:39:15 GMT


I have a book about Australian Shepherds at home which I believe has
the address of the American club(s???).  I will look it up and post the
address to this group.  I assume you already know that the AKC does not
yet recognize this breed, although I think it is only a matter of time
because they are pretty popular.

I have a part Australian Shepherd, and I volunteer at the Humane Society
so I see quite a few Australian Shepherd mixes and occasionally full-blooded
dogs.  They seem to be pretty common here in eastern Idaho with all of the
farms & such.  I like them alot -- especially my mix puppy, of course!


Jamie

the pack:  Kenzie   -- 1 yr old black Lab X
           Meggin   -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
           Harrison -- 4 month old Border Collie X

the herd:  Kieri -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
           Zak   -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
           Duke  -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese



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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Eagle Dog Food
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:32:45 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Sandra Augustine (sla54@cas.org) wrote:
: 	I'm currently in the process of switching some of my dogs over to
: Eagle Natural Pack and would be interested in hearing about the experiences
: that people have had with dog food manufactured by Eagle. THANKS.

I've been feeding Eagle for 2 years now and my animals do wonderfully on it.
I was working at a dog training/pet supply firm and driving 35 miles to
get my Eagle.  When my manager found out, she asked me about it.  End result-
she got some in to try, couldn't keep it on the shelves.  In 1 month, it
became the best seller.  Almost everyone there is feeding it, the
exception is the groomer-she'd fed it before and liked it but had a hard
time finding it on the road.

Eagle isn't a household name, as they do not pump hugh amounts of money
into advertising.

I look for a food without ethoxyquin, as I've had problems in the past with
itching and lousy coat.  I've been told that it is safe, but since the
only common denominator in the foods which I was feeding at those times
was ethoxiquin, I'll pass.

I feed Maintainance Pack-Gaia gets a little more than the recommended
amount, Random a little less.  Kennel Pack is perfect for Gaia, but my
life is easier with only 1 container of dog food.  The cats get
maintainance (cat), but my 2 active boys get supplemented with kitten.
The cat maintainance is nice because the fat drops from 20% (kitten) down
to 12%.  

No one else has mentioned the frequent feeder program so I will.  With
every 12 bags you buy, you get 1 free.  Simple.  I have card, which my dealer
stamps and writes in what I've bought.  When it is filled, I get a free
bag of the one that I've bought the most of, cat or dog, any size.  It doesn't
penalize the owner of the small dog or cat.  Not that I'd have to worry with
7 eating Eagle. :)  They also have a very good breeders program.

For more information their # is 800-255-k9k9 
                                800-235-k9k9 (Indiana)

They sem to be very responsive to customer needs.  When I started feeding, 
there was no 20# cat maintainance, so I called.  We had a few customers call
when I was at the academy, and it was not long before the 20# was on our
shelves.  Ditto with cat food in the frequent feeder program.  

If they had a horse feed, Sterling would probably be eating it. :)

Karen  



Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dtrytten@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Deborah Trytten)
Subject: Re: Doggie hair out of fabric/upholstery?
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 22:47:14 GMT
Distribution: usa 
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs 

In article <1992Dec10.090356.2969@bvc.edu> tims@bvc.edu writes:
>My Golden Retreiver has her winter coat and is shedding like mad all over 
>the house-regardless that she doesn't get on any furniture, it winds up 
>everywhere.  I brush her daily, but really need to find a prodcut that will 
>pick up dig hair (a brush or something) out of fabrics and upholstery like 
>the back seat of my car. I guess we could shave it all off! ;)

I found the solution to this problem quite by accident.  I own two
shelties and have dog hair *everywhere*.  When I moved to my new
townhouse, I had stairs for the first time.  My tendonitis won't permit
me to drag a vacuum up and down stairs, so I had to buy a small hand
held vacuum with a rotating brush for the stairs (mine is a Hoover--but 
it a bit like a Dirt Devil, only smaller).   As I finished vacuuming the
stairs one day, I noticed some more dog hair on the sofa.  The little
vacuum made short work of the dog hair.   I own a Dustbuster (tm?).  It
doesn't do anything with dog hair.  This little Hoover is just fantastic!
It even gets the hairs that get embedded in the blankets on the bed
(no, my dogs aren't spoiled :-) ).   

Good luck and let me know if it works as well for you as it does me.

Deborah Trytten
dtrytten@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu

 

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mawells@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: get new dog or no
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:20:46 GMT

Thanks to all who responded to my question - Should we get another dog or
no?

Most were positive and depends on answers (Ex:  depends on temperment of
each; who much attention each gets; etc.)

Did seem to be a little misunderstanding from one reply (sorry forgot
her name).

I know a pup will be a lot of work but what I meant by "at least 6 months
old" - we both work and can not come home to let pup out every 2 or 3
hours so and older "pup" would probably be housebroken.  An older dog
2 yo or 5 yo would be just as nice.

As far as prefer to get for Christmas or birthday - that is when I prefer.
A special gift for a special occasion (and wouldn't a new, loving home for
Christmas be a special gift to a rescue/shelter dog?  If it is not possible
to find new dog for either of those occasions that's fine.  May, July, 
October whatever is just as good a time to give the gift of a loving home.

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding that I am not one of those people
who get a Christmas pup just to get tired of it and to the shelter it goes.
(W O W - how would those people feel if it were animals getting people for
the holidays then got tired of them and turned the people into a shelter.)

Anyway, thanks again to all who responded.  Happy and safe holiday - and doggy
kisses to all.

Mary Ann
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: audi@tellabs.com (Audi McGee)
Subject: Re: RCA Victor dogs
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle, IL
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:37:13 GMT

In article <9212142144.AA2153@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>  You really should have sent that last message to me privately.

elaine,

i know that some of us have TRIED to e-mail you privately,
however there seems to be some sort of problem. i for one
have tried to e-mail you and it ALWAYS bounces, so sometimes
the only way we can get through is a post.

audi

>--- FMail 0.92
> * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO: HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: More on the neurotic Dachshund.
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:55:59 GMT

In article <9212142144.AA2155@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Both you and the parents should
>know better!  Duh......  the dog bit my child in the face.... what
>should I do?????

Well, I suppose one could shoot the dog.  Problem solved.  I suppose
one could shoot the kids.  Problem solved.  Or, I suppose one could
evaluate the situation carefully, and try and formulate a hypothesis
for the behavior and some non-distructive actions to take to try and
remidy the situation, and make everyone happy.  In other words, one
can use the cognitive reasoning abilities that most humans posess and
try and solve the problem in a way that does not require taking a life.

I guess it depends on your perspective.

>--- FMail 0.92
> * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO: HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)

-- 
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OooWoo Racing Kennel           | I'd rather be driving sled
E-Mail: srlee@beta.lanl.gov    | dogs.
From: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dogs walking Dogs ?!?!?
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:37:25 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Organization: N.I.S.T
Posting-Front-End: Shinbun -- the OpenLook newsreader




We have a dog in the neighborhood that will ONLY walk himself.
When on a leash he is miserable.  He pulls, stops, whines, etc. 
But if the owner puts part of the leash in the dog's mouth, he's 
as happy as can be.  It's a hillarious sight watching this dog
walking himself and his owner (sometimes he turns around and pulls
his owner along).

Rob G.
glenn@osi.ncsl.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 11:18:01 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Selfish pup 
Comment-To: All@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

 * Replying to a message originally to All
 * Replying to a message originally from Peggy Martin
 > 	I'm having a problem with my younger dog.  He's a neutered
 > Shih Tzu, 
 > 11 months old.  He has always had a tendancy to steal the
 > older dog's toys 
 > right out of his mouth when he is using them.  Dusty is
 > usually mellow about 
 > this and moves on to another toy.  Recently, however, Dusty
 > has defended his 
 > rights and the two of them fight over the toys.  No
 > bloodshed, but 
 > definately not the usual play growling.  I've tried moving
 > Worf to another 
 > toy, but he wants the one in Dusty's mouth.  As soon as Dusty
 > gets another 
 > toy, Worf abandons his and takes Dusty's away again.  Do I
 > stop Worf from 
 > taking the toy?  Let them work it out themselves no matter
 > how loud it 
 > gets?  I don't want either of them hurt.
 > 				Peggy Martin
 > 				martin@utklib.lib.utk.edu
 > --- rfmail 1.1.J
 >  * Origin: Orphan Board West  fido <-> unix gateway
 > (1:202/723)
  Worf needs to learn manners, and it is up to you to teach him.  If
you don't Dusty certainly will, by biting Worf hard next time he
misbehaves.  This would not be such a bad thing if it ended there. It
may not.  The two dogs could begin a feud and a deep hatred for each
other.
 You need to assume the role of top dog here.  When Worf harasses
Dusty, scold him severely, and place him in isolation for at least
half an hour.
--- FMail 0.92
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 09:35:38 MST
From: <ICKAD@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog Wets Bed, revisited
Distribution: na
 <1992Dec05.082627.16324@sco.com>

Okay . . . what if the dog pees in areas *other* than her sleeping area?
Here's the problem:  my dog is fifteen yrs. old.  She is a beautiful
dachshund/sheltie mix, and she has been my friend for a long time.  When I
had my son almost 3 yrs. ago, I noticed that the dog started going downhill;
her eyes are clouding, she is becoming befuddled and hard of hearing, and
she seems to "teeter" through the house when she is not asleep.  But with
greater regularity these past few months, she seems to be forgetting her
potty training (yeah--we're going through this with my son, too :-)  and
will pee anywhere, whenever it's convenient for her.  Last night, we kept
her outside for a *long* time (we can do that here, in Arizona, although I
put her doggy sweater on her, too), even though she protested loudly.
Actually, if she would only bark or scratch at the door when she needs to go
out (like she used to), we would at least *know* and comply with her request.
Anyway, I finally relented and allowed her to come back in.  No more than
two minutes later, while my son and I were in the kitchen, SHE URINATED ON
THE KITCHEN FLOOR!!!!!  :-(  :-(   I immediately picked her up and put her
out again.

The urine did not smell foul or was discolored in any way, and although I'm
not a vet, I really don't suspect any urinary infection.  I think it's her
mind  (her advanced age)  that seems to be the source of the problem.  Anyway,
my question is this:  Do any of you know of "incontinence" panties for dogs?
I have called our pet food/supplies warehouses in town and they don't have
anything like this.  I also called our vet, who only knows of feminine napkin
products  (and I'm considering this option, while trying to find the "diaper
doublers" some places have for infant/toddlers to keep them dry).  I've also
considered buy disposable diapers and cutting a place for my dog's tail (which
I'm sure would elicit HOWLS of laugher from my son!); however, I don't know
how they would fit on a dog's body, or what size I would buy.

PLEASE HELP!!!!  We've already spent a *lot* of money cleaning the carpets in
the house and my beautiful oriental rug for the holidays, and I DON'T WANT TO
SPEND ANY MORE MONEY CLEANING!!!  I also don't want to be forced to leave my
very good (but old) friend outside.

Please e-mail, since I don't usually read this group.  Many thanks (in advance)
for any suggestions!


--Karen Davis
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Re: Xmas Puppies (again) :-(
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:02:12 GMT


Ruth G., addressed all of this "let's get a puppy for Christmas" sentiment:
> After reading that REALLY sad "Christmas Puppy" story on r.p.d a few weeks ago,
> I've been noticing the huge number of local breeders who are placing ads in the
> paper that say "Ready For Christmas" or "Will Hold For Christmas".  I wish I
> could afford to take out a big half-page ad with that story in it, & run it
> right next to the "Christmas Puppy" ads for about the 2 months before
> Christmas.
> What else can be done about this? 

Well, we aren't going to be able to change all of the people, but we can still
make a difference.  Perhaps the biggest and easiest change we can make is by
contacting the humane societies in your area.  If they don't already, suggest
that they institute the policy of no adoptions the week before Christmas.
A deposit can be placed, but the puppies (and kittens and dogs ...) can't
be picked up until three days after Christmas.  This gives everyone a cooling
down period, as well as relieves the pet from the big turmoil.  I think you
can convince a humane society into this easier than some backyard breeders. 
Just make sure you're talking to the right person--which usually isn't the one
who answers the phone.

Alternatively, copy the "Christmas Puppy" ad and ask if you can place it
on a bulletin board of the shelter with a plea for an after-Christmas puppy
decision.  As a further alternative, call a single ad in the paper which
is offering Christmas puppies and suggest they at least offer to keep the
puppies until after Christmas for people.  The more gentle the suggestion,
the better the chance it will be accepted.  I think we may all be suprised
at how unmalicious the people behind these ads are.  Many of them are big
dog lovers themselves (I'm guessing).  They just haven't thought the whole
thing through.  What a difference a phone call could make!

Merry Christmas.

-- 
                              O             betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu
_          __                  \            
  \      /    \       -- >      O           E. C. Weatherhead
   \ __ /      \ __ /          /            5734 S. Ellis  Chicago, 60637
From: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re:  Dog meets Snow, how do you do...
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:22:32 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Organization: N.I.S.T
Posting-Front-End: Shinbun -- the OpenLook newsreader




Our 11 month old Sib. Husky was introduced to the snow last week.  He ran out
the door like normal, got incredibly excited about this wonderful cold stuff,
and came over to my wife and I as if to say, "Finally, *normal* weather".  He was content to play in the snow all day long.


Rob G.
glenn@osi.ncsl.nist.gov


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: djcasola@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Dawn Frier)
Subject: Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukah (sp ?)....
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:45:38 GMT

Well, not long now till Christmas!  Don't mind me, I turn into
a little kid again at Christmas time.  Just to say, I'll be away for
a few days or so visting my Patches.  Not looking forward to coming
back to have to catch up on the news group but hey what can you do. :-)

Just wanted to say to all to have a great Holiday season however 
celebrated and Patches forwards the same.  May everyone give their
dog(s) a Christmas hug from me (and Patches) .


:-)
Happy Holidays to All and to All a good night,

Dawn and Patches
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: toolan@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Puria Dog Chow
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: world,na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:31:48 GMT

In article <9212112358.AA2144@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org>, 
ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:

> [stuff deleted to conserve bandwidth]

>   I have also been active on national pet echos, where my views are
> not considered extreme.
>   It was never my intent to ruffle the feathers of excessively
> sensitive newsgroup members.  It is not my fault that a different view
> reduces some of these individuals the level of spewing infants.

	I don't think ALL your views are extreme (not that I agree with any
	or all of them), it's just that you come across sounding like yours 
	are the ONLY views and everyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.  And 
	I don't believe that the fact that a different view is presented 
	reduces people to "the level of spewing infants," either.  You should 
	look at what you post BEFORE you send it off, checking for degrading 
	and inflamatory wording.  IMHO, that's why there's been a general 
	outcry about your postings.  Tact does not seem to be one of your 
	strong points when you post.

	RPD is a great place to get questions answered, to make friends (or
	enemies), to learn more about our much-loved dogs.  But in order to
	keep it a friendly place, we need to keep our words kind.  Generally
	the tone the poster sets will set the tone for any responses.  Let's 
	be kinder to each other on this board, huh?

>   I don't think it is a bad thing to offer several different kinds of
> solutions to pet related situations, or any other situation for that
> matter.  

	Being able to find several possible solutions to a problem is what
	makes RPD a great source for everyone.  RPD is for sharing information,
	not taking pot shots at each other.

> --- FMail 0.92
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	toolan@stsci.edu	*	No one else would want them!
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	       Make a fast friend--adopt a Greyhound!

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         Topaz (3.5 yr old retired racing Greyhound)


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