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From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Subject: Re: Giving Pills to our Fuzzy Friends
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:10:08 GMT

vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes:
> 
> Actually, pills would almost be preferable to that horrible pink
> liquid antibiotic vets always give out.  I hate giving it to the girls
> almost as much as they hate getting it.  Even if I wrap them up
> tightly in a towel before administering it and keep their heads as
> still as possible, they still wind up with that pink glop all over
> their beautiful fur, and then they're so mad at me that they don't
> even want to hold still for me to clean it off ... :-(

I never had a problem getting the pink antibiotic down Vincent -- just
prop open the mouth and squirt it down the throat with the dropper.  It
was a different story when I tried to give him the Pepto Bismol the vet
prescribed.  Even using a syringe I'd only get half of it down him and
the rest would end up as pink frothy drool all over the place.  The
last time I tried, I wore a ski glove to keep from getting bitten and
he broke a tooth on the glove trying to keep from swallowing.  Luckily
it was just a baby tooth, but I couldn't bear to torture him further
and switched to Kaopectate mixed with lamb baby food, which he would
beg to get.

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From: n7835109@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Laura M Crook)
Subject: Re: early wake up calls
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:30:26 GMT


Long ago I had a wonderful black and white longhair named Oberon.  He
insisted on waking me up whenever he was hungry, which was usually between
four and five in the morning.  First he would sit on my chest and purr.  If
that didn't wake me up, then he would gently bat my face with his paws.
Should I then be so foolhardy as to remain asleep, the claws would come out
and he would pat my face again.  If I remained obstinate, he would insert
one claw in one nostril and tug.  I *never* slept through that!

I eventually decided, as others have, that true happiness can be found in
the wanton indulgence of animals.  So I'd get up, put food out, and stagger
back to bed ...


Written by n7835109 ... but you can call me Laura
Internet: n7835109@Henson.cc.wwu.edu

Quote of the week:  "I can take your igneous rocks or leave them.
  I prefer micas.  Feldspar.  Quartz.  You can keep your pyroxenes,
  magnatites, and amphiboles as far as I'm concerned."
	-- Judy Maxwell (played by Streisand in "What's Up, Doc").
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From: linnco@microsoft.com (Linn Compton)
Subject: Re: Anitra's diet from New Natural Cat
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:16:41 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: cat food
Distribution: usa

I've had my cats on Anitra's diet for about two YEARS now with
great results. After about two months on the diet I noticed a
definite change in their fur especially. It was thicker and
fluffier. Also, I have an elderly Siamese whose eyes were always
runny. The diet seemed to help with that as well. They haven't
cleared up completely, but they are less runny than before, and
she does have periods when they don't run at all. ( I have read
that this condition can be hereditary due to breeding for a flatter 
face which affect the tear ducts.) I recommend this diet highly.

All three of my cats are indoor cats, so it's easy for me to 
control what they eat. I figured that since they don't have any 
options about eating, I had an obligation to them to feed them in
the healthiest way possible, and now I feel like I'm doing that for
them. 

I usually buy hamburger for them, but I recently discovered that
I can buy beef heart (which, as an organ meat, is particularly
good for them) and have the person at the meat counter grind it up
into hamburger for me for free.
From: rde@ukc.ac.uk (R.D.Eager)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Sliding Closet Doors...
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:35:12 GMT
Reply-To: rde@ukc.ac.uk (R.D.Eager)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

Friends of mine had a similar problem. They bought some wooden dowelling
and cut it so that it just fitted (tightly) between the end of the door
(the non-end end, if you see what I mean) and the opposite wall. This was
wedged high up, out of feline reach.

Bob
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:40:47 -0500 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: screens are good jungle gyms....

whenever my white cat wants in...she will somtimes climb the screen
door or one of the windows.   This took me by surprise once.  I was
sitting watching tv when....*whump*....I see this cat climbing up the
screen looking at me.   I almost died laughing.  Although I am sure
the cat was serious about wanting to come in.

	-c.adam
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From: csx040@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Alan Chantler (CS))
Subject: Re: Looking for James Herriot  8)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:54:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.050244.5123@nuscc.nus.sg> isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE) writes:
>Hi People!
>
>I am trying to locate the address of  James Herriot ...
>
>All I know that he is in Yorkshire in UK ...

	James Herriot is a pseudonym!!
	
>I will be going to UK this May, 

	Enjoy the trip!
	
>so thinking of getting his autograph  ... 8)



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From: kammmk@cray.com (Kammeyer Michael K)
Subject: Re: Two Better Than One?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc, Mendota Heights, MN
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:32:08 CST

Two cats will keep eachother company.  I have Buddy, who is 5 years old and  
Ashes, who is 1 year.  Buddy hated Ashes at first but now they get along great.
It takes 1-2 months for the older cat to accept the younger cat. 

Cathy Nix
Hammond, WI
From: dan@msen.com (Dan and Karen Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: DECLAWING?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:37:40 GMT
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Nancy Pilsch (nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com) wrote:
: I was watching a documentary on cats on The Learning Channel.  It was done
: by the BBC.  In one segment they showed a vet performing the declawing
: procedure on a kitten.  It was pretty gruesome, to the point where I
: started crying.  They really do amputate part of the cats toes.  I'm sure
: that even the people who support declawing would think twice about having
: the operation done if they saw this.
: BTW, the british vets WILL NOT declaw a cat.  They even consider having a
: strictly indoor cat cruel.  

This same documentary also asserted that modern day Maine Coons are afraid
to go outside and focused its section on cat shows on the health problems
of some persians.  

The writer had some very definite opinions on certain issues, but I don't
think that you can take the blanket statements without a grain of salt.

Most people would think twice about most surgeries if they had to watch one.
Try watching lifetime's medical updates sometime. (Don't flame me-I'm not
being pro/con declawing here-the series on cats just left me with a bad
taste overall.)

Karen
From: ac999257@umbc.edu (ac999257)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: DECLAWING?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 02:44:50 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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In article <1993Jan24.063501.18340@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>ac999257 (ac999257@umbc.edu) wrote:
>
>: P.S. Figaro is my parent's cat and lives in a rural area of
>: Pennsylvania. (Well, she was *MY* cat until I moved to Maryland.
>: Now my dad thinks she's his cat.) The two cats that live with
>
>You've *all* got it wrong.  As any pet "owner" knows...
>
>"Nobody *owns* a cat."

Even as I wrote the words, I knew some smart alec would make this
reply. Thank you, Ed, for pointing this out. But notice I chose
my words carefully in this paragraph that you included. I simply
said "my cat", "my parent's cat", and "his cat". No where in this
paragraph did I use the word "own". I also continued with "the
two cats that live with me now", still not using the o word.

I think it's only fair that if you are the person that feeds a cat
when she wonders into your yard as a stray kitten, and bottle feed
that cat's one day old kittens when she gets trapped and lost underneath
a neighbor's porch for three days, and clean the car after each
vet trip that causes her to loose her bowl control (every year),
and make sure she's inside in the cold, and change her litter when
she's inside during the cold, and make sure she eats her food
before some roving dog or other cat eats it, ... need I say more ...
then you have the right to say "my cat" when referring to that
cat. This signifies only that you are the person responsible for
the care and maintenance of that cat, and not ownership. It is
quite obvious that the cat owns you. My father, however, says
"my cat" even though my mother gets to do all of the dirty work.
Men!

Mary
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From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Subject: Re: Raccoons & pets :-(
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:56:02 GMT

petitc@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:

> Hmmm---I never heard of a preventative vaccination against it for humans.

Sure, most colleges of veterinary medicine will require first-year students
to obtain the pre-exposure vaccine.  Most people in my class didnt have a 
bad reaction, except for a sore arm for awhile, just like with any other 
vaccine.  I know they reccommend people who work with wildlife to get the
vaccine, just in case they are exposed.  

Oh, another thing that caught me by surprise is that rabies is fairly
common in FARM animals, like cows and horses. (!)  Apparently most of the time
the owner will think the animal is choking on something (due to paralysis of
the laryngeal muscles), and then the owner can expose themselves to rabies
by sticking their hand in the cow's mouth, trying to see if they can find 
whatever is choking the animal!!


From: laurie@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Laurie Schaaf)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:24:58 GMT
Subject: New Addition - Jello
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats




I have been a lurker for quite awhile and just love reading all the 
stories about our feline friends.  Well, I just had to write this
and let you all know about my new addition.  She is a two year
old spayed and declawed :( tortie.  She is huge at 12 lbs with
long hair so she looks even larger.  She has quite the motor and
loves attention.  

Her background is quite sad -- she was adopted by a college student
in the summer. When fall came around the kitty went to Mom and Dads
who already had two cats.  They did not get along so the college
student took her back but did not have time for her.  Mom and Dad
finally took the cat back and tried to get her to make up to
their two cats.  No luck.  They finally after two years of this
took her to a cat boarding facility.  When asked by the manager of
the facitlity how long she was going to stay, they said forever or
find her a home.  (They did not have the heart to take her to the
humane society).  Anyway Gail (the manager) took her into her home
of six cats and she did not do well - she hid in the closet constantly.
I called Gail to see if her children could go swimming with mine and
she told me about the kitty.  Well I already have two indoor cats,
two outdoor cats for the house and 3 barn cats over at the stables.
I hesitated but when I met the kitty I fell in love with her - she
sat on my lap and purred.  My two cats have adjusted to her in
just two days - I must be lucky cuz now I have 3 cats plus husband
sleeping with me.  

The best part is her name cuz it fits so well.  We named her Jello
because I figured there is always room for Jello.  She is a great
addition to our indoor feline family.

Laurie,

Velvet - big black neutered indoor kitty.
Tundra - small calico, fat indoor ruler.
Jello  - large tortie indoor snuggler.

Sugar and Spice - outdoor siblings at the house.

Ben, Charlotte, Twitters - barn mousers and they are great.

Teton, Mocha - austrailian, blue heeler horse chasers.

21 horses whose names I will not list - 4 of them are ours the rest are
   boarded to keep ours company.

Gladys, George - large gray geese - watch dogs of the geese world.

Myrtle, Frank  - ducks that are the geeses' shadows.


That's all I think ;)

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From: lis@mfltd.co.uk (Linus Surguy (x5384))
Subject: Re: cats need new home
Organization: Micro Focus Ltd., Newbury, UK
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:39:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.150649.14066@bsu-ucs> 00cmmiller@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>dear david livigni:
>you said yourself that your fiance is a cold-hearted bitch.  that doesn't
>sound good to me.  how can you think of spending the REST OF YOUR LIFE
>with a cold-hearted bitch?!  i don't get it.  i'm sorry, but no matter
>how lonely i am, i will NOT be with an animal-hater.  i saw a couple of
>your last posts and keeping those cats in the basement is cruel.  do you
>think they're happy in there?  your most recent post made me really sad.
>you obviously love those animals very much.  you're going to be miserable
>if you give them up!  why can't she compromise?  marriage is filled 
>with compromise; if she won't be civil about the cats, what else will
>then she'll be this way about EVERYTHING, not just your kitties.
>enough of my tangent.  does anyone agree or disagree with what
>i've said?  david needs some advice and a lot of support.
>
>candace miller
>department of psychology, ball state university
>
>*my opinions belong to ME*

I'd go along with every word of that! If her idea of a world is one that is made for humans, in which animals have no part, I would be very very wary of her too. As has been previously said, if she cant compromise about your favourite kitties when you are at the begining of a relationship, what will it be like in 2-3 years time??? So talk to her, discuss it with her, but if the answer is still no on the cats - well I wouldnt do it!

Linus

** This is a personal post, not one from Micro Focus **

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From: ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez)
Subject: Help me name my cat
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:56:58 GMT

Why not hold off naming your cat for awhile until his/her personality
manifests?  It took me 6 months in one case, but it was worth it.
No name would ever have been more perfect than Booger and I wouldn't
have thought of it right off...only when I realized what a little booger
he really was.  

Then again, it only took me about 3 seconds to name Bozo.  A couple hours
at home to name Buster, a beautiful but VERY CLUMSY orange tabby whose
mis-landings sent dishware crashing. 

What I am trying to say is, instead of nameing a cat from some superficial
attribute to go with their color or your favorite literary character, 
let the cat lead you, and one day, when you least expect it, the perfect
name will pop into your mind.  The cat will have told you his name.
From: webers@stein.u.washington.edu (Sandy Weber)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats need New Home
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:28:13 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu
Keywords: adoption allergy help

joanm@moe.coe.uga.edu (Joan Maxfield UCNS) writes:

>I also had 'the talk' with several boyfriends, most were very insulted
>but not near as bad as when I'd say "I'm sorry but I can't see you
>anymore, Amos doesn't like you."  I promised Amos a home when I found
>him in a pile of hay, alone, at 2 weeks old.  Daniel (my fiance)
>shocked me when I told him, "just remember, Amos ALWAYS comes first,
>I've had him longer..."  he replied "I would never ask you to get rid
>of him.  I know how much he means to you."  Wow, what a guy!  Of
>course that doesn't stop him from making chinese food jokes when Amos
>or Angelica do something nasty but you can't have everything.

>Joan

   Oh, wow, can I relate to that... :)  I'm only on my second SO since I got
my Sammy, and the first one helped me pick him out, so he was never a problem.
The second one's looking like a keeper, but he didn't like cats at first,
either.  I stood firm, though, even under threats of "it's either me or him", 
and today, he's the one  that feeds Sammy, and he constantly tells him what a 
great cat he is, AND I have him convinced that he wants a cat of his own, to 
keep Sammy company!  He does occasionally still come out every once in a while 
with a joke about making "mauna pua" (I'm not sure of the spelling, it's a pork
dish he ate when he lived in Hawaii) out of Sammy, though.  At least I know 
they're just hollow threats. :)

  -Sandy
From: weinhous@castor.hahnemann.edu (Martin S. Weinhous Ph.D.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: MAC KITTY II: THE DIRECTIONS
Date: 20 Jan 1993 21:44:42 -0500
Organization: Hahnemann University
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Keywords: kitties, litter, macs, trash icon

In article <1jipo6INNrns@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> jshouman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Joan-Marie Shouman) writes:
:
:Actual icon is ftpable from src.doc.ic.ac.uk in the directory:
:computing/systems/mac/umich/util/trashcan under the name kittylitter (big
:surprise, eh?). It's about 4K.

I got it, I tried it (followed the directions!), it didn't work. My system
is a Mac IIcx under 7.0.1-tuned with 20MB RAM, Mode 32 and virtual memory
off.

Should kittylitter have worked? If so, what am I missing?

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From: bswetman@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Barbara Swetman)
Subject: Re: Looking for James Herriot  8)
Organization: Hamilton College - Clinton, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:19:50 GMT

The best way to contact an author is usually through their publisher.
Check for the publisher of his most recent book since he may have
changed.
From: akropf@mariner.amc.edu.au (Anneliese Kropf)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Giving Pills to our Fuzzy Friends
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:38:22 GMT
Organization: Australian Maritime College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2

>So fellow cat people, IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO GIVE PILLS TO
CATS?Anneliese Kropf
Australian Maritime College, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia
akropf@mariner.amc.edu.au

**Some people are owned by cats and still manage to lead normal lives**
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From: kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius)
Subject: Re: Help me name my cat
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:40:41 GMT

Fungus.
--
Oh, man!  Look at those cavenewts go,
It's the freakiest show.
From: barryf@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Barry Fowler)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 15:54:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Help me find a kitty.
Organization: HP Colorado Computer Mfg. Operation
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

In rec.pets.cats, olsenc@stein2.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) writes:

> Hello:
> 
> I am in the market for a kitty or two, so I could use some advice:
> 
> 1)  One kitty or two?

I'd recommend two.  They will entertain each other during your absence
(and entertain you when you're at home).  I don't feel guilty leaving mine
at home during the day inside, knowing that they are romping around the 
house having fun.
> 
> 2)  Food?
>     What's the best price/performance balance for the kitty?

I'd stick to the better quality dry foods (Iams, Science Diet, NutroMax, etc).
It'll save you vet bills in the long run.
> 
> 3)  Discipline?
> 
Discipline?  Hah!  Actually, I've done lots of "cat reading" and cats
do not respond to negative reinforcement.  It only makes them fear their
owners.
> 3)  Polydactyls?
> 
Dunno anything about 'em.

I'd strongly recommend adopting your cats from the local pound or SPCA.
There's lots of them on "death row" out there just waiting for somone
like you to come along and save them.  I have 4 great cats.  All but one
came from the pound (two of 'em full grown).  The one I'm most attached to
was full grown, listed as a "stray".  He started purring when I simply **looked*at him.  He's the friendliest cat I've ever become acquainted with and
it's difficult to comprehend that he was destined to be killed within 72 
hours of my finding him.

Also, please neuter/spay your cat.  It'll keep them a bit more mellow and
they won't roam and get in fights as much.  

If you're looking for a particular kind of cat, call the SPCA and they'll
usually have a list of what they have for adoption.  
> Thank you for your help.
'Welcome
> 
> -Clint
Barry

Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:28:53 -0500 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rabies (was raccoons and dogs :( )
	<1993Jan24.135100.10125@iscsvax.uni.edu>
Distribution: world

>A rabies reminder:  Rabies can infect virtually all mammals, and is often
>quite prevalent in skunk and racoon populations.  There is a bait form
>of rabies vaccine being tested for wild animal vaccination (animal eats
>bait, gets vaccine dose), but I don't think it's been approved yet.  So
>we're likely to see the current levels of rabies for quite some time.

Ok, just how often are rabies vaccinations supposed to be updated.  The
expiration dates can vary (?) from 1 to 3 years, right?  So far, Jester
has received one every year he has been alive and he is an indoor cat. 
Is this to much?  Or is this just right>  Any help is appreciated.

Susan and Jester


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From: bukh@stack.serpukhov.su (Yuri Bukhtiyarov)
Subject: Lichen (herpes?) info needed.
Organization: The Institute of Biochemistry And Physiology of Microorganisms, Russian Academy of Sciences
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