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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:31:24 EDT
From:         RJK@OASIS.DAYT.TASC.COM
Subject:      .PIX conversion

Does anyone have a program to convert .PIX format graphics to anything
else?  This format is generated by Multimate.  Thanks.

Bob Kreutzfeld   rjk@dayt.tasc.com
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:09:53 -0600
From:         PERKINS TYLER R <perkins@SPOT.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      40MHz NeXTs?

I asked comp.sys.next.hardware, but wondered if anyone here had
heard anything that they regard as reliable info:

I sure don't want to spread misinformation, but I heard a rumour that
NeXT will be comming out with a 40MHz NeXTStation sometime in October.
It's supposed to be called the "Nitro"!

Can anyone verify this, or is it just wishfull thinking on someones part?
A colleague of mine is depending on its validity--postponing a purchase!

	--Tyler Perkins		perkins@spot.Colorado.EDU
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From: wanguhnk@nextnet.csus.edu (e. kaman wanguhm)
Subject: Help UUCP news
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:12:38 GMT

I have C-News set up and running on my machine but do not seem to be
getting any news to go to my /usr/spool/news directory.  All the news
comes in through the modem to the /usr/spool/uucp directory structure
but nothing ever happens.  Well I get messages that we are short on
space.  I have 50 Meg on my hard disk and using an OD with 200 meg free
as the spool directory, this is symbolically linked to the
/usr/spool/news directory.

Any help pointers or fingers in my eyes welcome as I am getting pretty
desperate

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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:05:25 -0500
From:         "(Steven W. Schuldt)" <steve@MA.NEAVS.COM>
Subject:      DPI Printer Defaults Under 3.0

All:

Does anybody know how to make the print panel default to,
say 300 dpi manual feed.  I seem to remember the current
settings were saved automatically under 2.x.  Thanx in
advance...


Steve
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:00:14 PDT
From:         "(Gregory Miller - Inherent)" <inherent!gam@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Ross Perot & NeXT-L

	Dear Pete (Rucki):
	I second Todd's comments.  Let's keep the LIST to valuable
information regarding NeXT Computer's; their up-keep, expansion, and
improvement in homogeneous as well as heterogeneous settings.

	Ross Perot's participation in NeXT Computer (while
significant and valuable) is of little day-to-day consequence at this
point.  His political endeavors are entirely inconsequential to this
LIST and probably any NeXT related list.


	Read the newspapers and follow the balance of the media for
information on R. Perot's political meanderings.  I'm sure there are
politically flavored newsgroups in USENET to satiate your electronic
craving for this discussion as well. :-)

	Thanks for your consideration.
	Gregory Miller
	Inherent Technologies, Inc.


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	Patent Attorneys & Technology Lawyers
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:33:20 BST
From:         M.Crawford@DCS.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK
Subject:      BackSpace : SUMMARY

I asked:

> I guess I must have missed something - I'm trying to get hold of a
> copy of BackSpace, but all the ftp sites I've looked at which have
> the source also have all permissions denied for the file...
>

> could anybody explain why... does this mean I'm going to have to pay
> somebody for it... was there a "nasty" in the program somewhere?

>


Apparently BackSpace (written by NeXT employee Sam Streeper) was
"removed" from ftp sites by NeXT as a number of developers complained
to NeXT that it was unfair competition to those who wanted to write
commercial screensavers.

BackSpace has been included in the Developer Demos with NS 3.0.

                               ?!

Thanks to those who replied, especially those who sent copies :-)

Have fun,

Malcolm.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:24:43 EDT
From:         "Jonathan Hendry" <HENDRYJW@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Renderman in 3.0 problems

Is it just me or does everyone have trouble printing from 3View?
Whenever I try to render an image to disk or to Preview, all
I get is a black rectangle, or a black rectangle with the controls
superimposed on it. There's never anything else. Simple.app, from
NextDeveloper/Examples works, though. But when I modified Simple.app
to use a rib file, it doesn't work.

Is there a trick to this?
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:04:48 -0500
From:         "(Cybernaut)" <garrett@JUDY.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      9-Track and Prices

    I'm not sure who it was, but someone asked the question of  what  was  a
cheap 9-track to buy. I don't know about price, but just  from  a  shopper's
perspective, Overland Data seems to be a pretty  wise  choice.  Slime  line,
front-loading case. Nice and unobtrusive. I could fit it under  the  monitor
of my Turbo Color, if I had a Turbo Color.

    I just recently called NeXT for a product summary and they sent me  more
than I had dreamed of. The only problem was that all of their prices were  a
lot, and I mean a LOT higher than I expected. The minimum price for a system
which would meet my minimum needs was a NeXTstation Turbo Color on the order
of $12k. While, approximately the same needs  were  filled  by  a  Macintosh
Quadra 700 for about $7k. Could someone try and convince  me  why  I  should
still consider NeXT as a viable PC option? I'd really like  to  own  one,  I
just can't afford the sticker  price.  Maybe  something  in  an  educational
discount?


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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:02:26 MST
From:         "(Dan Danz)" <dan@PHOENIX.AZ.STRATUS.COM>
Subject:      Re: unable to eject floppy or optical disks
              "NEXT-L@BROWNVM.brown.edu" at Sep 30, 92 2:23 pm

> [ NEXT-L@BROWNVM.brown.edu wrote ]
>
> Hello,
>
> 	I've had a few problems since I installed NextStep 3.0,
> which I assume are related to the new version of the operating
> system (or possibly my installation of it).  One problem concerns
> ejecting floppy or optical disks.  I have a NeXTcube with both a
> floppy drive and an optical drive.  When I insert a disk (either
> kind), it shows up in the file viewer and I can access the files
> on the disk, but when I'm done I cannot eject the disk.  When I
> drag the icon of the disk into the recycler, nothing happens.
> When I click on the "Disk" menu item in the Workspace, both the
> "eject" and "initialize" options are printed in grey and cannot
> be selected.  I have had to open a Terminal window and use the
> "umount" and "disk -e" commands to unmount and eject the disk.
> Logging out and logging back in did not help.  Rebooting seemed
> to solve the problem at first, but now a day later I am having
> the same problem again.  In summary, floppy and optical disks
> seem to be recognized and accessable, but do not seem to be
> recognized as **removable** media and thus are unable to be
> unmounted and ejected in the usual way.
>
> 	Have others had this same problem.  I have not seen
> anything on the net about this problem.  If anyone can help
> me, I'd appreciate it.  Thank you in advance.
>
> Gregg Dinse
> (919)-541-4931
> dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
>

I have seen exactly the same thing;  040 Cube, NS 3.0, fails to
allow me to eject either the CD rom or the Optical Disk or both.
It "sometimes" works, and I can't figure out what the trigger is.


Forwarded to:  bug_next@next.com

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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:58:10 EDT
From:         RJK@OASIS.DAYT.TASC.COM
Subject:      Window colors

Does anyone know how to get color into the NeXT window?  I have a NeXTStation
 Color
but most of the windows are monochrome!  And how about the backdrop.  Can I show
an image like I can on the Sun?  Just adding color to it would be nice too.
Thanks in advance.

Bob Kreutzfeld  rjk@dayt.tasc.com
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:36:37 -0600
Reply-To:     lbrahm@DENVER.CBA.DU.EDU
From:         lbrahm@DENVER.CBA.DU.EDU
Subject:      Sound Editor

I used to have an improved version of Sound Editor where you can reverse,
normalize sound wave. I forgot the name of the app (perhaps NewSoundEditor).
Unfortunately, I forgot to make a copy of it before I upgrade my machine to 3.0
so I lost it.

Does anybody know where I can get one from? FTP site and location?
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From: spagiola@FRI-NXT-PAGIOLA.STANFORD.EDU ((Stefano Pagiola))
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Subject: Re: SoftPC on a NeXT
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:44:16 GMT
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John F. Skoda writes
> I need to know how __good__ SoftPC really is?  Can it emulate VGA?

SoftPC is quite adequate to run a large variety of DOS apps, but
really falls short on graphics-intensive apps, which pretty much
rules out most games and Windows apps.  Windows _does_ run - but
veeeery slowly.


(Which reminds me of an old story about Charles Lindbergh.  A company
making a movie about his famous solo NY-Paris flight built a replica
of his plane, the `Spirit of St. Louis.'  The movie stunt pilots
hated the thing, because it was so hard to fly.  One day Lindbergh
himself, who was a consultant for the movie, takes it up for a spin.
When he comes back, he's ecstatic: "Boy, you really captured the feel
of the real thing!")

Anyway, back to SoftPC.  Right now it emulates a 286 with a choice of
graphics modes, of which i think the most advanced (if that is the
word) is EGA.  A major upgrade seems to be in the works, but no
announcements have yet been made.

Sorry, but SoftPC won't save your games.  Then again, with the
current resale value of those things, you might as well hang on to
yours and make it a dedicated game machine.

Ciao,
Stefano
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:59:15 -0500
From:         "(Steven W. Schuldt)" <steve@MA.NEAVS.COM>
Subject:      WordPerfect Problems Under 3.0

All:

Does anybody else have the problem of being unable to use
the Bold or Italic commands from the WordPerfect Font
menu under NeXTSTEP 3.0?  Bold replaces the selected text
with a 1 and Italic with a controlA.  The font panel will
change selected text to bold and italics but this is an
annoying problem...


- Steve
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:06:01 -0700
From:         Mike Sugino <sugino@PANTHER.MOT.COM>
Subject:      RE: unable to eject floppy or optical disks

It was reported on netnews that auto-launching Apps from Dock that use icons
 from
WorkSpace caused this problem. So don't autolaunch those apps such as
Engage!, Stuart (with shelf), Librarian, etc. This is a known bug to NeXT.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:23:00 EDT
From:         PBRUSH@SNYESCVA.BITNET
Subject:      RE: CAU$E$ OF WAR$

>
>                                 CAU$E$ OF WAR$
>
>               Most ALL war$ are ARTIFICIALLY CONTRIVED by 3RD PARTIES
>          (usually agents of the international banker$, THE MONEY
>          CHANGER$), for HIDDEN PURPOSES.
>

For another view, see _The Causes of War_ by Geoffrey Blainey, The Free
Press, N.Y., 1973.

Peter Brush
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:49:00 EDT
From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject: Re: CAU$E$ OF WAR$

On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:33:25 EDT Lenny Abbey <LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET> said:
> An ASCENDED MASTER is much like an undescended testicle.  You can't see it,
> smell it, or feel it, but sooner or later it is going to give you trouble.

Well put.
Denis Paz
dgpaz@clemson.bitnet
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:31:13 MET
From:         George Welling <welling@LET.RUG.NL>
Subject:      what is wrong

I know I should not send this to the LIST, but something is wrong. On the
internet readnews-group that gives this list, I saw loads of messages that
never reached me through the normal chanel. What is wrong ? Have I been cut
off ? Is my signature too long ? Can the Dutch no longer participate ? Is it
that I am growing a beard ?

Ps.
Actually the ships are of the commandeurs De Ruyter, Evertsen and Tromp and
have nothing to do with Columbus.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:29:00 EDT
From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      Re: CAU$E$ OF WAR$

HISTORY has had postings about the Taj Mahal really being a
Hindu temple, but a Muslim conspiracy (quite literally) covered
it up, and about Ascended Masters of Eckanckar. Other lists
have had postings about visions of Jesus and the Blessed Virgin
Mary, and about Divine Providentialism taking the form of
giving heart attacks.
Now we get CAU$E$ OF WAR, rabbiting on about
international conspiracies, the Council on Foreign Relations
being a front for J.P. Morgan, the Rothschilds lurking in
the background, the CIA trying to kill Reagan, &c.&c.

As the United States economy continues to be transformed
radically, and not to our advantage; as the end of the
Cold War ushers in, not universal peace and the end of
History, but ethnic cleansing, nationalism, and
uncertainty; I say, as all this, and much more, happens,
will we see North America awash in more paranoid
craziness?
The thread that links together most of the postings--especially
the Ascended Masters, CAU$E$ OF WARS, and Taj Mahal--is that
one man (and I do mean man) has penetrated to the Truth, and
his disciples propagate it (some, unfortunately, choose our
list as a vehicle).

Where is the voice of reason, so needed to clear the miasmatic
fog of religio-political superstition?

Denis Paz
dgpaz@clemson.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:10:46 -0400
From:         BROWNH@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      Re: CAU$E$ OF WAR$
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Denis, I share your concern, as we slide into irrationality. However,
I'm perhaps old enough to see that as potentially a slide into fascism.
I grew up in an atmosphere were one died to defend democracy against
fascism, but apparently young people today are not at all convinced
that democracy "works" (missing the point, I suspect), and other forms
of governance, including even fascism, should be considered, as long as
it can solve problems and does not seriously impinge on individual rights
to be socially irresponsible and non-committed.

The other side of the coin. If, as a citizen in a democracy, I cannot
stand idly by as we all slip into irrationality or what have you, then
it seems to me I am called upon not only to support organization that
would defend or promote democracy, but make some effort, as a profes-
sional intellectual, to understand the reason for this slid into ethic
clensing and what measures can be taken to combat it.  I personally tend
to see things in terms of deepening socio-economic contradictions, but
here once again perhaps I reveal that my roots lie in a different era.
Words like democracy, solidarity, struggle mean a lot to me, but perhaps
I live in an intellectual universe already deconstructed by the post-
modernists.  If so, I can only be very pessimistic about the future.

Haines Brown  (brownh@ccsua.ctstateu.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:01:55 CDT
From:         "(Don Mabry)" <djm1@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Smoking
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

	The lawsuit of Nathan Henry Horton against the American Tobacco
Company, tried in Holmes County (Lexington), Mississippi contains ample
documentation on both sides of the smoking issue. Historians were hired
in 1987 to do some of the research for the plaintiffs. The records of
the trial are public.
	There was a country and western song, popular in 1948 or 1949,
entitled something such as "Smoke, smoke that cigarette." One key
verse included "until you smoke yourself to death."
	Cigarettes, at least as early as the 1940s were often called
"coffin nails."
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:19:00 CST
From:         JCFITZHARRIS@STTHOMAS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Smoking
Comments: To: HISTORY%RUTVM1.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU

In my misguided (smoking) youth, I read the comments of James I & VI on
the"noxious weed," and without a surgeon general and modern chemistry he
was remarkably accurate in his overall assessment of the dangers of
smoking.

As you might expect, revenues from taxes meant the English government
paid no heed to the monarch's peevish denunciations.

Joe Fitzharris
History, Univ. of St. Thomas
 St Paul, MN 55105
 (612) 647-5667
 JCFitzharris@StThomas.edu
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From: petty@ike.navo.navy.mil (Jim Petty)
Subject: Muskeagean Indians
Organization: Naval Oceanographic Office
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:50:49 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-3317]: ike.navo.navy.mil

Looking for any information on the French explorer La Salle and his expeditions
up the Pearl River, Mississippi.  Please post all and any information on this
subject.  Thanks in advance Jim Petty. 
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:20:46 BST
From:         Christopher Currie <c.currie@CLUS1.ULCC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: European Commission Host Organization

>
>
> I quickly glanced through the log. Does this mean that anybody with access to
> telnet can access this European Services network?
>

Yes, at least for those databases for which you do not have to register.
After posting the log I tried the ECHO password and got through to some of
the free ones.

Be warned, however: the internet-Janet link at uk.ac.nsf.sun is VERY busy, and
I can find no direct method of IP/TCP access to uk.ac.niss (certainly
servers do not have a numeric address for niss.ac.uk).

Christopher
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:59:01 PDT
From:         "Don W." <webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU>
Subject:      Round numbers
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

>> Does the level of paranoia and irrationality rise as the
>> century/millennium comes to an end? As the year 1000 approached,
>> did people expect the world to end, or is that myth? What about
>> 1800? 1900?
>>
>  is allways some group predicting cataclysm.  Apparently choosing
>  a nice round number like 1000 or 1500 or 2000 is appealing to

Sounds plausible, perhaps, but is it a reliable rule of thumb
that millenarist movements date their Millennia by the current
civil calendar?  Thinking of the Millerites, to take only one
example, who expected the world to end in the 1840's.. an
otherwise undistinguished year?

Just curious,

Don W. (DonWebb@CSUS.EDU)
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