HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jinxiong@cs.ucf.edu (Chen Jinxiong)
Subject: Re: Illiteracy Rate in PRC
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:28:21 GMT

In article <9301060231.AA02384@thames.bu.edu> lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) wrote [about literate rate]:
>>The last census result shows that the general population
>>of China is something like > 75% LITERATE in 1990.
>
>Thanks for citing the source. If my memory does not fail, I think it
>is something like 73.3%, very close to your number.
>
>But, well, I still doubt this number, because of the definition of
>"LITERATE" and the way the data were collected. According to report,
>in that census, the item was defined as "whether the person can read

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>or write", this is a very vague definition, and there was no proof or
>certificates required. So there was very large room for this number being
>an overestimated or underestimated one according to the political climate.
>I don't know where you are from, city or villages, but you may ask around
>your friends from villages, whether they believe this number.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>One may enjoy this number. But one should not use this number as an excuse
>for not doing anything for promoting China's education. Otherwise, you
>have to disprove the following ststement:
>
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>"There are currently 229 million illiterates in China.
>One in every four illiterates in the world is a Chinese.
>Each year, over one million children in China are unable
>to attend school because of poverty. Of 679 counties rated
>as poor in China, the problem of feeding and clothing the
>population has not yet been solved. So there are no funds
>for children to buy essential stationery and books for
>attending school."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>
>What do you think? Is this a lie? I think it is very close to
>truth. 


How about Yi2 zi3 zhi1 mao2 (Use your own sword)
Jiang1 zi3 zhi1 deng2 (onto your own shield).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dxl@philabs.philips.com (Du Li)
Subject: Re: Return your money to the poor Chinese children, Some of your CSS's!!!
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:19:38 GMT

In article <C0JqAI.Mxx@cs.psu.edu> echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
>In article <1ikderINNrvj@hsc.usc.edu> xuxianz@hsc.usc.edu (Xuxian Zhang) writes:
>>Hi Very Nice   Guy Take Care Chinese. How are you sure the money will not get 
>>into CCP's hand. Please make sure the money will serve for the Chinese not CCP.
>
>	Hmm, how were you sure the money was not from CCP's hand when you 
>got it in the first place?  How nice it is to think that when one gets
>money from Chinese government, it is from "Chinese people" and when
>one pays money (back) to Chinese government, it is to "CCP"!
>
>
>	 Eddie


Where does the money in CCP/CG's hand come from?
From: xzh@eddy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Xiang Zhou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Yan Xing and Qi Gong, Is It Science?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:24:28 GMT
Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eddy.cfm.brown.edu

In article <C0AqAK.IHy@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
|> In article <1i7fn1INN9ej@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> xzh@eddy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Xiang Zhou) writes:
|> 
|> >     You didn't make comparisons properly here. The Qi Gong has lasted 
|> >for thousands of years has numerious solid evidences to support its existence.
|> >The point is that people should not overdo anything. Kong3 Zi1 said that
|> >too much is like not enough. It applies to everything, including Qi Gong and
|> >yes, Science. From your messages, it seems to me that you are making
|> >too much of the current science. 
|> 
|> I hope you don't put this attitude in your scientific career if you
|> have any. When we talk about science, we are talking about the scienfic
|> findings, the method and results. Not as what Mr. Yan Xing presented.
|> If this is a political trick, it would be very disgusting. I think
|> all scientist in the world would be offended. The Chinese scientific
|> community will loss its credibility.
|> 

    Are are against Qi Gong or just against Yan Xing ?  If you are just saying
that Yan is fooling around I have nothing to say. If you think Gi Gong is
not real then it's another issue. One this net you are probably the number one
productive person. I don't know where do you get the time to do your science.
You might have got your degree from Colombia and maybe a job somewhere in
Indiana. That's OK. Don't preach on this net like you are MR. RIGHT or MR.
SCIENCE. Your attitude is arrogant and self-centered, I hope that is not part
of your education.

|> >Two hundred years ago, people would think
|> >what we have now were impossible and crazy. Two hundred years from now, there
|> >will be many things that we may think crazy. The point is that on the
|> >one hand you have to be careful about what you are doing, that is the attitude
|> >of science, on the oher hand, don't be rigid, use your imaginations,
|> >this is the source of discovery. Like UFO and other mystries, Qi Gong is
|> >something which can not be explained properly by the current science. Let's
|> >accept its existence and I don't believe it will be beyond the future
|> >Science.
|> 
|> Remember all the impossible are achieved by solid and scientific
|> research. No bragging and no mystery. It is OK for Holywood to put
|> these stories into science fiction. But there is a critical difference
|> between science and science fiction. If science is not rigid, it
|> will be corruptive. Notice how serious the referees are when you
|> try to publish a paper in any serious scientific paper.
|> 
|> 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:34073 soc.culture.taiwan:16810
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: weapon sales to Taiwan
Keywords: weapons, Taiwan
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:34:05 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Boston University

In article <C0G8oM.Kwr@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> Comment writes:
>(deleted)
>Anyway, a bloody civil war between Chinese and Chinese is for sure very stupid and
>ugly.

Can't agree more.

>All the leaders and their supporters involved in this war should be blamed.

To blame anyone will be too late. As small potatoes, what we can do now is
to stop advocating hate and promote undersatnding. Only those able to be
benefitted from such a stupid and ugly war would advocate hate between people
in mainland and Taiwan.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: Guangxi massacre (Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi...)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na  
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:14:57 GMT

In article <93010.191823SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu> <SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.163606.4240@vax.cns.muskingum.edu>,
>jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu says:
>>
>>In article <1993Jan10.184443.23960@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
>>Lei@bnos.csd.bldrdoc.gov writes:
>>> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) wrote:
>>>>In article <C0Jv1K.C3n@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:
>>
>      Citations of others deleted.
>
>>        *** How naive and simplistic!  Military action is no solution to
>>whatever problems there exist in the Mainland.  Besides, the KMT is in no
>>way militarily comparable with the CCP.  Don't overestimate the forces of
>>some F-16s.  The CCP may not be the hope of China, but the KMT is no best
>>alternative.  The true hope of China is the Chinese people.  We need no more
>>simplistic emotional China bashing.  Let's try to understand history in
>>historical contexts and work for a promising future.
>
>  Oh, there, did your parents give you some nerve of humour?
>  try to read the original post again, you may have smell defferent
>  scent. -)

I agree, some of them can't get it even with the presence of lots of
;-> simileys.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: qye@next5 (QIAN YE)
Subject: Re: weapon sales to Taiwan
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:52:20 GMT

I don't think Japan want a war with Neclear armed China. Taiwanese know  
that if mainland China want to attack taiwan, there is a war between  
Chinese and Chinese army will not use large scale neclear weapon(they may  
use some small one.) But against Japanese that's different. China will  
destroy Japan in a day without any hesitate the day after the war began.  
And even U.S will be happy to lost their biggest enemy after the collapse  
of U.S.S.R.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: slblg@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: LOOKING FOR MY FRIENDS
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:55:31 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


HI, everybody,
	I am looking for my classmate Ms. Yiping Wang and her husband.
	Wang graduated from department of civil engineering, Wuhan University
of Technology in 1983. She came to Indianapolis last year. 
	If you know something about her and her husband, please contact her or
me.
	Thank you.
	My phone number is (801)-750-6451
	My Email is SLBLG@CC.USU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: carl_@nwu.edu 
Subject: Re: Rumor: U.S. Selling Nuke Sub to Taiwan?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:31:37 GMT

In article <93005.232305LXH108@psuvm.psu.edu>  writes:
> I hope this is true,too. Because this is a good reason for us to
> attack taiwan realier and quicker.

What do you gain by attacking Taiwan?

Carl
From: cwang@mathp.usc.edu (Chunming Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Airline tickets for Los Angeles to San Francisco.
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:03:07 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mathp.usc.edu


Several airline tickets are for sale:
         Originating city: Los Angeles
         Destination: San Francisco
         Date: January 15,1993
         Price: $50 or best offer.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: ccoleman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Chuck Coleman)
Subject: Taiwan Economic Data Needed
Reply-To: kb57@umail.umd.edu
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:07:28 GMT

A friend of mine needs economic data about Taiwan.  In particular, she
needs foreign trade and investment flows, and financial flows.  Data about
trade with and investment in China are necessary.  Please reply to 
kb57@umail.umd.edu.

Please do not reply to this account.

Thank you
From: yzhang@crcvms.unl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Fax # of Tongji Univ. needed!!!
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:16:36 CST
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
NNTP-Posting-Host: crcvms.unl.edu

   Does anybody know the Fax #. of Tongji University?  It would be greatly
appreciated if he/she send it to me or post on the net.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: an3845@anon.penet.fi (Tory)
Subject: Re: China, new and improved - To Jean-Francois Cayula
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.china
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:11:51 GMT

cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula) writes:


>Right, why should you be angry at your Taiwanese brothers? Let's 
>blame it on those nasty that-would-sell-women-and-children-just-to-
>make-a-buck French people. But may I remind you that it is Taiwan 
>that wanted to buy the Mirages and F16's. Could it be that people 
>in Taiwan are afraid of your brotherly love (as shown in recent elections)?

We all know that a very large proportion of nice French people
live on weapon-selling. They sold weapon to Africa and South
America. They are very worried when they realise that the world becomes
more peaceful - where should they sell their sophisticated deadly
mass-killing weapons? How to keep employed those lovely honest French 
workers who produce these weapons? No wonder Mr. Cayula is overjoyed 
to find out there has been fear and hatred among Taiwan and Mainland
China. Those great nice lovely French people should be very grateful to
Mr. Cayula, who seems to be trying his best to incite this hatred.

Tory

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhang@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Weishi Zhang)
Subject: Looking for a friend Gu Feng, in Berlin, Germany 
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:48:43 GMT

  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: engp2109@nusunix1.nus.sg (WU ZHANGYI)
Subject: looking for Zheng Bei Yao
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:42:02 GMT

Ms. Bei Yao is at the University of Florida togather with her husband
Mr. Li Qiang. After you can read this mail please give me a reply to
Engp2104@NUSVM.Bitnet. Anyone who knows her address please tell me.
Thank you.
From: Onlooker
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Interesting Picture
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:11:34 GMT
Organization: Birkbeck College, Department of Computer Science

Next time should you post that sort of stuff to alt.binaries.pictures.misc.
---
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Illiteracy Rate in PRC
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:45:01 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <2B4A52CD.15211@news.service.uci.edu> ygu@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu) writes:
<In article <9301060231.AA02384@thames.bu.edu> lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
<(my stuff deleted)
<Ah...  ,  229 million illiterates.  The chinese population is 1.1 billion,
<or 1100 million. So the illiteracy rate is 229/1100  = 0.208 x(100%) =20.8%.
<So, should we conclude from there that the literacy rate is (100-20.8)%,
<or 79.2% > 75%  ?    Am I making a mistake ?

Yes, you did. When calculating illiteracy rate, infants and teenagers should
be excluded. May I suggest you to donate a few bucks to SOS or HOPE project?
Let's HOPE our young generation at least know what is literate rate.

Thanks in advance.
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organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: R0814@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: CCTV
Organization: CSU
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:59:44 GMT

In article <C0q9up.I4r@acsu.buffalo.edu>
zshi@acsu.buffalo.edu (Zhixin Shi) writes:
 
>
>Hi, there,
>
>Could you tell me some more about that XiaoErDuo? Where I can buy one and
>how to use it to get CCTV?
>
>Thanks.
 
I don't know much about it, but here is what I know.
 
1. CCTV programs are available to north american via a satellite (on Ku band, I
think). To receive it you need a dish of diameter three feet or more, a receive
r with some attachments (s.t. LBN for Ku band), etc.
 
2. You can buy a complete system from a) a local dealer, b) a mail order compan
y.  For local dealers, look up in the yellow pages under Satellite TV; for mail
orders, the Chinese newspaper, World Journal, usually carry a few ad's.
 
3. The systems sold by the companies advertising on World Journal start at $300
A top of the line system, which can tune in hundreds of channels, costs $1,500
to $2,000. You can install the system yourself or have the dealer install it
for you.
 
4. If you have a lot of trees around your house, it is going to be difficult,
if possible, to use such system.
 
5. There is a newsgroup, rec.video.satellite, where you may be able to get some
help.
 
I'm considering getting one myself, but, unfortunately, I got a lot of TALL tre
es around my house. The worst part is they are not on my property.
 
Good luck!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:34442 soc.culture.taiwan:16986
From: jialo@dso034.sch.ge.com (Jia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: PARTRIOTS FOR TAIWAN
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:14:12 GMT
Organization: GE Power Generation

In article <C0r5zr.sC@rex.uokhsc.edu> u235@rex.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee) writes
>>
>	Please keep us posted about this kind of news.  Does
>anyone know when CCP is going to close U.S. consulate this time (just
>kidding)?  Superrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!
>
>YJ
	I wonder why TaiWan needs that kind of stuff and what TaiWan
can possibly gain in this transaction. 
	If CPP realy wants to attack TaiWen, it will happan anyway
regardless how many weapon TaiWan has.
	
	TaiWan might buy them just for "Research" purpose. These
"smart" TaiWan Nuc Eng. needs some resources. 

I am the only one talking here.------------------Louie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee)
Subject: Re: Newer China (was Newwer China)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:11:02 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <1993Jan5.003717.16156@zip.eecs.umich.edu> cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes:
>Subject: Re: Newwer China
>             ^^^^^^
>
>Can everybody kindly change 'newwer' to 'newer' ? 
>Please be serious in the spelling, otherwise how could China be 'newer', 
>if the spelling is wrong.
>
>Yi-Chieh


At least, you should check your grammar before you post anything. 8-D
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Keywords: Qi Gong
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:51:39 GMT

In article <C0Cy58.HAv@cs.psu.edu> echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
>In article <C0Cr3C.54H@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (~{QG9p~}) writes:
>
>>  It is unfortunate that a student association in Indiana was
>>willing to sponsor Yan's talk. If he wants to talk, let his
>>fan clubs sponsor it. Student associations representing junior
>>scientists and to-be engineers should think twice before
>>sponsoring pseudo-science.
>
>	Well, I guess it depends on how much interest is there in the
>members of the said associations.  It is similar in sponsoring
>someone to make a political speech.  (Yeah, I have heard much 
>more pseudo-science in those speeches than Yan Xin could put into
>his talk.)

It is my speculation that LYHs sponsore Yan Xin to substitute
Li Yanjie and Qu Xiao. In my judgement, these people are similar
liars. Yan Xin became popular after 6/4. He was successful in
drawing attention of the public (he bragged that each of his
lecture had tens of thousands of audience). At least, the
government could think that his lies were equally effective
as Li Yanjie and Qu Xiao. Remember Qian Xuesheng was doing the
research of "system control" (he was to write a computer program
to simulate the communist system, using Monte Carlo method :-, some 
people told me). So Qian supported him. This is of course a conjecture, 
unproven, so don't call it science :-).

Since he was successful in China, his next mission is oversea.
That is why you guy get free ride. Did you pay to subscribe
People's Daily and Li Yanjie-Qu Xiao's lecture?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: vectorized chinese font l
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 10 Jan 93 03:56:30 EST

In Article: <jie.726261697@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu>
   Subject: vectorized chinese font l
      From: jie@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Jie Liang) writes:


>As far as I know, PostScript and TrueType fonts are both mathematical
>and hint points based. The connection is that they are both defined by
>Bezier curve with some "hint points" outer-lined specifically for the
>Bezier fuction curve.  The difference is that PostScript is superior
>because it uses cubic Bezier function whereas TrueType used quadratic
>Bezier function which requires less computation.  Both are very
>satisfactory ways to generate scalable fonts.

Many thanks for your clarification, and I am benefited from your
expertise.

This is one of those rare occasions on the SCC, that a Chinese idiom
"Pao1 Zhuan1 Yin3 Yu4" (Throw a brick, in hope that others will return
with jade stone) became a pleasant reality.
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From: jie@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Jie Liang)
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:01:49 GMT

huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:

>So far, China dare not really do anything against US, as well as Japan 
>(Chinese fellows may recall Guang1 Hua2 Liao2 event, in which even Deng
>had lost his face). I hope and believe China can have the power to respond 
>them in 20 years in the way she treated France a couple of days ago. Of 
>course, I do dream "afterward they live together happily forever", but it 
>seems just like a dream in the world as it is.
>  

It is absolutely appalling how easily people forget things.  I thought
the Guang1Hua2Liao2 incident ended in absolute Chinese diplomatic triumph.  
The dispute died out ONLY AFTER then prime minister Takeshita visited
China and promised $30 billion (?) loan and aid to China.  That huge sum
of money would have flooded into China had it not been 6.4 massacre.

The Guang1Hua2Liao2, as well as the current compensation issue, have all
been carefully and cynically cultivated by the Chinese government to
maximize their utilities.

Sometimes, I feel really sorry for the poor Japanese diplomats, for they
have very few options and they screw up every one of them, like the
recent aborted Yeltsin visit.


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