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From: george@mastersa.UUCP (GEORGE VOGEL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: ICOM W2A & IC-2SRA Packet Connection Answer
Date: 10 Dec 92 16:23:19 GMT
Organization: AUR Support Staff

In article <1992Dec5.230027.1794@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec1.212012.17037@odin.corp.sgi.com> jerryb@jerber.sandiego.sgi.com (Jerry Bransford) writes:
|> > (statements about waiting 5 minutes on the phone with ICOM deleted)
|> 
|> Originally I had written out quite a large, detailed flame about ICOM, and how they have the poorest service of ANY company I have had to call before.
|> 
|> I won't go into that, but it has been since January or February that I called, and I am still steamed about it.  Let's just say I was too harsh, so I restarted my article.
|> [stuff deleted]
|> JT

My experience has been just the opposite with ICOM.  I called them the day I
bought a TNC, spoke with a very nice tech support person who went out of his
way to answer lots of kooky questions I had about wiring up the tnc, running
packet full-duplex on my dual band W2A, etc.  He then offered to fax me the
schematics, and rush-delivered them when I told him I didn't have a fax machine.

Also, when I bought my W2A it came with the 1443BB antenna (the Euro version--
they had run out of the U.S. version) and when I called to ask about it, they
sent me a 1443B style immediately. (I actually like the BB better :-)

I was initially frustrated at the difficulty in obtaining accessories for the
W2A (no problem now), but it was a very popular radio right off the bat.

I'm just a satisfied customer, as are a couple friends with the same radio,
and we all have been very happy with them--Including a friend who was going
back home to Japan, and had to have his radio modified first.  Icom had it back
to him real quick.  I don't think your statements are necessarily typical
of ICOM service at all.

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From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: TCP/IP information- Thanks! And some more questions.
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:28:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <barry.724347869@dgbt.doc.ca> barry@dgbt.doc.ca (Barry McLarnon) writes:
>I'm with Gary on this one... we are desegregated in this area too. :-)
>Seriously though, I think it helps to demystify and gain acceptance for
>TCP/IP if it's not stuck away in its own frequency ghetto (yeah, you may
>have to use linear backoff timers to keep up with that aggressive AX.25
>crowd... :-)

I should note that the N6OYU TCP/IP node also accepts AX.25 connects so
that non-TCPers can access Doug's callsign server. (On TCP, it's accessed
via finger.) So we do have some protocol mixing on the frequency.


Patty

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From: eric@j30264293.reslife.cornell.edu (Eric L. Beyer)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP access on packet radio...
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Organization: The Solaris Development Group
X-Newssoftware: GRn-beta 1.16g (10.12.92) by Michael B. Smith & Mike Schwartz
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:03:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.215327.14296@gecko.uucp> lanzo@tekelec.com (Mark Lanzo) writes:
> In article <1992Dec11.051522.5183@mail.cornell.edu> writes:
> >   How exactly does direct telnet, ftp, etc. kind of access work on packet
> >radio?  Is it like SLIP, where you're assigned an IP address when you log
> >into the internet system, or does it work some other way?
> 
> You must get an IP address(es) assigned to you.  The IP address is 
> essentially a permanent attribute of your station.  Probably someone 
> in your area coordinates this and will give you an IP address.  Best bet
> is to log into one of the local packet stations which is running
> some form of NOS and leave a message to the sysop asking where
> he got his address from.
> 
> Note that machines which accept IP connections normally also accept
> straight AX.25 connections, so if you are just trying to *connect*
> to another node which is running IP protocols, then you don't have
> to do anything special, and IP addresses never come into the picture.
> Since you mention telnet & ftp though I assume that you are actually
> running some form of NOS at your end, so you'll need to get an
> IP address before you can go any further.
> 
   Okay, but how would I do that?  And does the IP address necessarily have
   to change if I move to a different area? Like if I wanted to read email
   from Florida instead of NY?

> When you start up your TCPIP software (presumably AmigaNOS if you
> are going to use that "rusty A500"), some of the commands you need
> to issue will set define your communication ports and set the IP 
> address used by each port.  This would normally be in the NOS startup 
> file, so it isn't really something you have to do interactively, but 
> that's beside the point.
> 
   I think I'm okay there..

> Hope this helps, at least a little ...
> 
>          73  --Mark Lanzo-- KD4QLZ
>   lanzo@tekelec.com
>          Running AmigaNOS on my (t)rusty A3000 ...
>          

-- 
   Yes, thanks.
--
  Eric L. Beyer
  Proud owner of his rusty A500
  Paper pusher of Solaris Devlopment Group
  (elb1@cornell.edu)
From: Angelo_Glorioso_Iii@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Angelo Glorioso Iii)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: TAPR Address
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:56:53 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Have the new Tarp 9600 BPS modem been released yet? Has the new Devation
meter been released yet!!!


-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Internet:angelo_glorioso_III@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
  Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III
  Packet:N5UXT @ N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA
  Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG  [44.108.2.13]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: lapin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gregory Lapin)
Subject: HF Packet Modem
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:16:06 GMT


I am building a new packet modem for use with the BAYCOM software.  It is
based on the AMD7910 chip.  Programming this chip is easy for 1200 baud
(Bell 202).  I would also like to provide the option for HF packet at 300
baud.

What I need to know is the following:  Will BAYCOM support HF packet?
What are the FSK tones for HF packet (do they correspond to Bell 103 Answer
or Bell 103 Originate tones)?

Thanks,

Greg Lapin
KD9AZ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: regnad@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Paul Prescott)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: TAPR number
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:01:28 GMT
Organization: The Land of Forgotten Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


Tucson Amateur Packet Radio
P.O. Box 12925
Tucson, AZ 85732-2925

Phone: 602-749-9479
FAX:   602-749-5636

Office Hours: Tuesday - Friday  10:00AM - 3:00PM MST

(Source: Packet Status Register, July, 1992)
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: IP Address Coordinator in VA??
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:21:23 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com

In article <1992Dec12.161251.5138@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jon@Turing.ORG (Jon  
Gefaell (KD4CQY)) writes:
> In article <1gbh9dINN8od@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> co862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  
(Don H. McGee) writes:
> >
> >Does anyone know the call or name or email address of the IP 
> >address coordinator in Virginia?? I would love to get a
> >number assigned. 
> 
> [stifling a guffaw]

Don't choke.
> 
> Try Jim De Arrass. WA4ONG, @WA4ONG in Richmond Virginia.
> 
> Then, let us know how successful you are.

If he sends it, I will issue one.
> 
> Then send me mail and I'll tell you how to get in touch with people who are 
> working with TCP/IP in Virginia and can give you an address.
> 

Strange, Jon, since I made you coordinator of the Charlottesville subnet, you  
have yet to report ONE SINGLE ip address assignment to me.  You have been out  
of the picture for 6 months, on your own work.  And now you attack me because I  
don't respond to your demands that I add certian NET/ROM routes to my G8BPQ  
node and claim that means I am not doing my IP address coordination job well.

There are always problems, but I do a good job.  In the year you have had a  
section of the addresses to assign (given to you to stop your whining a year  
ago), you have not performed your duty ONCE.
> 
> >
> >Thanks, 
> >Don McGee KF6CJ ecudhm@erigate.ericsson.se
> >-- 
> >Don H. McGee    ecudhm@erigate.ericsson.se    KF6CJ
> 
Jim
WA4ONG@WA4ONG.ampr.org
jmd@handheld.com

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Hand Held Products, Inc.| not necessarily those of Hand 
804.784.3090 voice      | Held Products, Inc., and may not 
804.784.3147 FAX        | even be mine. Use at your own risk
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: lanzo@tekelec.com (Mark Lanzo)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP access on packet radio...
Organization: Tekelec, Raleigh, NC
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:01:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.202708.18410@mail.cornell.edu> eric@j30264293.reslife.cornell.edu (Eric L. Beyer) writes:

> > [Eric's questions & my comments about TCP/IP deleted]

>   The principle seems similar to SLIP - SLIP connections are made by
>phoning a system that is on the Internet, at which point you are assigned
>an IP address and are effectively on Internet.  That's kind of what I'd
>like to do with packet.

Is this true?  I thought you still had to have your own IP address
for SLIP (that is, BEFORE your system made any calls to other nodes).
I thought SLIP (or its successor, PPP) just gave you a way to use your 
serial port to make IP connections [IP = Internet Protocol;  SLIP = 
Serial Line IP].  Pardon, my ignorance is showing ...

Certainly you would not want an IP address assigned to you on the
fly for normal purposes; this is after all the identifier which
every other station in a network needs to connect to you, and which
therefore you would not want to see arbitrarily change.

Eric also writes:
>   Ok -- I was assuming TCP/IP meant Internet access.  Got it now.

In fact, strictly speaking there is no single "Internet";  
there are (or were) a number of networks which are individually or 
collectively referred to as Internet - ARPANET, DARPA Internet, 
DDN, DoD Net, etc.  I think that the term "internet" basically is 
used nowadays more or less as a generic for any wide area network 
based on IP, although I understand to what you are referring.
Yeah, I wish I could FTP to all those public FTP sites too  :-( ...

           73  --Mark Lanzo-- KD4QLZ
           lanzo@tekelec.com



Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: Bruce@Pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
Subject: Re: HAM Connection BBS shutting down permanently
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:40:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec7.232312.1838@lub001.lamar.edu>  
lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu writes:
> one person on the net seems content to keep reminding
> me of my posts and seems to point to every flaw my postings may have.
> So, I can put an end to his posts without arguing with him or
> others by shutting the system down permanently.

When I was a small child and behaved this way, my mother would call it
"Cutting off my nose to spite my face". If you are so sensitive that
a few mail messages will prompt you to shut down your project, I am
surprised that you would ever key up your transmitter.

The person who claims to have sent you those messages, Paul W Schleck
KD3FU, doesn't
seem to have had any malice in mind. It seems that he was trying to act
as your "Usenet Elmer". There's a lot to the craft of operating
on usenet that isn't obvious at first glance. Perhaps you should re-read
his messages in that light.

					Bruce Perens
					KD6OTD
From: segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: NNTP Services via Satellite ??
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:32:30 GMT
Reply-To: segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com
Organization: Me and only Me


Greetings,

Last week someone told me that there was a NNTP news feed being transmitted 
on one of the satellites accessable via a home satellite system.  If anyone 
can tell me more about this service, I would very much like to hear from them.

Thanks in Advance

--
Bob Segrest
segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com
KD4PWU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Subject: TCP/IP In VA and Apology
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:26:57 GMT

There is a first time for everything, and I have one for you now...

I'm eatting crow. Bigtime...

I've never had the occasion where I felt like apologizing for a public
action on the net. Sure, people have thought there were many, but I
never agreed.

Well, this time no one even had to suggest it...

I apologize to Jim De Arras for taking a bad situation and making it worse
I really did act in a outrageously petty manner in my response to a situation.

I'm not saying I was alone in this incident... Just that *MY* actions were
completely horrendous. No amount of "But I was right about this" and "But
*HE* said that" etc can account for my acting like a complete jackass.

Rational, helpful, earnest people don't act like this. And I'd like to
consider myself at least 2 of the 3.

I kinda went nuts at the 'threat' (which was strongly implied, but never 
directly stated...) of prosecution, and other noise that was passing between
this fine gentleman and myself.

Obviously The efforts of WA4ONG have been significant in promoting and organ-
izing packet radio. 


Of course, I apologize to the kind women and men of the net, and the Amateur
community at large. To expose you fine people to such obscene behaviour is
NOT how I want you to remember me.

So, it's done. Things will get better. I will grow from this. Thanks for
your time.

BTW: I have cancelled my posting from earlier, and I hope they never make
it to your site. They are a matter of public record to those who have been
exposed to them. I know you won't give them any merit, they are deranged
responses to a bad situation.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: null@cs.iastate.edu ()
Subject: VMS or Ultrix connection via packet radio
Keywords: tnc configurations, info requested
Organization: Iowa State U. CS Department; Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:23:01 GMT

We need the configuration setting for an MFJ-1278T tnc for connection to a
login port on either a VMS or Ultrix machine. We currently have a Decstation
5000 running Ultrix and a 6610 running VMS.  We are able to communicate from
one tnc to another; however, communication to the login port has been
unsuccessful.  Has anyone successfully accomplished a login connection via
packet radio to either of these machines and if so, could you please send us
the configuration settings?  


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|  NW Mo. State University     | Internet: 0100364@northwest.missouri.edu|
|  Iowa State University       |     (or)     null@judy.cs.iastate.edu   |
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From: icrjh@acvax.INre.asu.EDU (J. Richard Haefer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: PA internet connection
Date: 10 Dec 92 17:30:06 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

A ham visiting AZ just heard about the internet and would like to know if
anyone knows of a ham to internet connection in the Altoona, PA area.
He'll be here for a week or so and I'll pass on the info.  Thanks.
 
 
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From: jaw10@amdahl.com (Jim Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: IP Address assignment in Bay Area
Keywords: IP,TCP/IP
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:33:24 GMT
Reply-To: jaw10@amdahl.com (Jim Williams)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation


I'm the proud owner of a AEA TNC with KISS mode and I'm anxious to build a 
TCP/IP packet node on 2 meters. Could anybody help with the following:

1) Who assigns IP addresses in the San Francisco Bay Area, and how do I get
 one?

2) Where can I get KA9Q TCP/IP software for a PC clone?

3) What pitfalls should I be aware of?
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: zacek@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Daniel M. Zacek)
Subject: Help with 151 mhz packet?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:57:09 GMT

I am looking for any help in locating a packet modem & radio combination or 
(even better) a combined packet modem/radio.  The only problem is I need one
that can tune into the 151 mhz business band and the 154/155 mhz public
safety band.  (I am looking for a good brand combination, not a specific used
one...)

The interface will be via IBM PC clones, and must be capable of working with
3rd party communications software.  I don't need the mail functions or other
stuff, just the data xfer.  

Any ideas?  Thanks in advance...
/s/Dan
-- 
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zacek@ucsu.colorado.edu  | why we think we know that starlight bends. 
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson)
Subject: RE:  N0ARY:
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:55:20 GMT


Does anyone know what has happened to the N0ARY BBS
interface on Internet?  Today I tried to access it
and the message came back like it has been disconnected.

Ron
AK0N
From: co862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Don H. McGee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: IP Address Coordinator in VA??
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:03:25 GMT
Reply-To: co862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Don H. McGee)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know the call or name or email address of the IP 
address coordinator in Virginia?? I would love to get a
number assigned. 

Thanks, 
Don McGee KF6CJ ecudhm@erigate.ericsson.se
-- 
Don H. McGee    ecudhm@erigate.ericsson.se    KF6CJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: True FM @ 438
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:40:53 GMT
Reply-To: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Organization: Stat Gateway Service, WB7TPY

I need a radio that can easily be modified for 438 mhz and true FM to
run a 9600 baud packet link.

Any suggestions besides commercial gear?

David wb7tpy

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      Bitnet: ATW1H@ASUACAD                     FidoNet=> 1:114/15
                Amateur Packet ax25: wb7tpy@wb7tpy.az.usa.na
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: A7AM <A7AM@UNB.CA>
Subject: Linux-based KA9Q-NOS
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:54:29 GMT

Greetings,
Thanks to galerie.hanse.de!sven@mcshh.Hanse.DE (DB3BAK) and
Tomi.Manninen@hut.fi (OH2BNS) for the information about Linux-
based KA9Q.
For those who might be interested in, especially for a-kevinp@
microsoft.com, here are the addresses:
1. the latest version of WAMPES at ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/
   tcpip/wampes;
2. nic.funet.fi/pub/OS/Linux/util/tcpip/ka9q.

Best regards,
Johanes P. Tamtomo
Survey Eng. Umiv. of New Brunswick
Fredericton, CANADA
a7am@unb.ca

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 1200 bps modem standards: deviation?
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:02:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.195109.7356@news.unomaha.edu> rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson) writes:
>
>You need to check off the air on the tone levels.  Some 
>rigs will attenuate the higher frequency and you will not
>know it by the levels you are feeding the transmitter.
>I experiment and use as little audio level on both receive
>and transmit I can get by with.  I think the idea deviation
>is supposed to be 5 kHz just like with NFM modulation.  One
>unscientific method I have heard of is to listen to your
>transmitted signal and cut it back enough so there is never
>any over deviation (cut outs) heard on a proper receiver.

Best results with most radios will occur when deviation is
set at a maximum of 3 kHz not 5. That's because most radios
start to distort near the 5 kHz limit and have severe tone
twist anyway. Using a station monitor, you want the high
tone to be 3 db hotter than the low tone. (the station
monitor measures without de-emphasis)

Gary KE4ZV
From: bob@hal.com (Bob Arasmith, N0ARY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re:  N0ARY:
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:51:57 GMT
Reply-To: bob@hal.com
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: thumper.hal.com

In article 7464@news.unomaha.edu, rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson) writes:
>
>Does anyone know what has happened to the N0ARY BBS
>interface on Internet?  Today I tried to access it
>and the message came back like it has been disconnected.
>
>Ron
>AK0N

It should be there. Assuming my computers haven't been stolen :)

If anyone using the gate runs into problems please feel free to send me
a message here at bob@hal.com. My network at home is ip connected to work
so I can check on things quite readily.

73
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Bob Arasmith
   bob@hal.com (work)
   bob@arasmith.com (home)
   n0ary@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na (packet)
From: karl@khk.ghia.rhein-main.de (Karl-Heinz Kuehlborn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: PR in PY4-Land????!!!
Summary: PR-Activities in PY-Land
Keywords: ham,packetradio,digis
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:29:32 CET

Hello to all readers,

   Im looking for any kind of informations about activities and
possibilities to use PR in PY4-Land. Will go there and take my PacketRadio
Equipment with. So I would like to know more about the possible Digipeater,
mailboxes, frequencies, simplex/duplex/shift etc.
  If anybody can help me, please send it either this way or if you are
activ in AmateurRadio you can send ita also via Packet
(DL2FAG @ DB0GV.HES.DEU.EU) or via Amtor (DL2FAG @ DK0MTV.RPL.DEU.EU)

Thanks in advance.

                                  vy 73 de Karl



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