HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lcatlett@milton.u.washington.edu (Lynn Catlett)
Subject: Re: Gloves pattern ...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:08:30 GMT

>just trace your hand and arm and add in seam allowances?  If you 
>have a dress glove in mind, maybe you could just look at one in
>

or, you could take apart an old pair (don't have any?
check out your local thrift store--old gloves for 1.00
or so) and proceed as above

Lynn's Rule #1 of Comfort While Crafting:  

  Every successful craft was once a good guess

have fun!
lkc
From: pjd@ecs.soton.ac.uk (PJ Dickinson)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: advice on making a man's shirt
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:33:12 GMT
Distribution: world

In <1992Aug18.154122.10695@terminator.cc.umich.edu> cchang@citi.umich.edu (Claire Chang) writes:

>bekowski@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us (Rebecca Churchbells Bekowski

>>...he asked me to make him a shirt...  said he'd love to
>>wear something i'd made for him...

I have made several shirts (for myself). I find that the easiest 
materials to work with are heavy ones with a dark colour and a 
pattern. That way, mistakes tend not to show up so badly. :-) Oh,
and also use a non-contrasting thread.

Instead of buttonholes use those metal poppers which you find 
on work shirts. They are attached with a hammer or with a vice, 
and not only have the advantage of being easy to put on, they are 
also quick to undo when the shirt is in service (sometimes an 
advantage....)

I have used two patterns, one of which was from McCall's catalogue, 
and had helpful hints (which were helpful) from Palmer and Pletsch.
The only trouble with that pattern is that it has a one piece collar,
and that *always* makes up very badly.
I swapped some of the pieces of that pattern with another to make
what I consider to be the easiest pattern for making a shirt. 


While we are on the subject, does anyone know why there are such a 
shortage of men's patterns in the catalogues which you see in the
department stores? Is it because not many people make men's 
clothes, or is it because men's clothes do not follow fashions as
much as women's do?

Paul.

--
Paul John Dickinson				pjd@uk.ac.soton.ecs
Department of Electronics & Computer Science, University of Southampton,
England,  SO9 5NH
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:54:51 EDT
From: Beverly Divany <BAD6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: I Want My Viking!
 <2454@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM>
 <1992Aug19.153112.27333@terminator.cc.umich.edu>


     When choosing a sewing machine, please do go to a Viking dealer.
You will be impressed.  I've had a model 980 for about 10 years and
just love it.  In fact, I am getting rather stir-crazy waiting for it
to return home.  The drop feed-dog button would not return the
feed-dogs when released, and the dealer had to send it to the
service center.  It's amazing how much sewing I want to do now that
my machine is gone.  BTW, this is the only time my Viking needed
any attention.

Beverly Divany
Communications and Space Sciences Lab
Penn State University
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: ac55@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (Cathy Hardy, University of North Texas)
Subject: White Powerlock serger
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:39:54 GMT

Does anyone have (or have an opinion about) a White Powerlock
serger (3/4 thread with differential feed)?  I've not gone
down to actually look at one yet, but it is only $300.  I've
never used a White machine before either.  Any opinions 
accepted.  Thanks  
-- 
*********************************
Cathy Hardy                     * Here at the University of 
UNT, Academic Computing         * North Texas we can name our  
Internet: AC55@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU * own salary ....
BITNET:   AC55@UNTVM1           * I call mine Alphonse

Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
From: aeichsta@athena.mit.edu (Andrew J. Eichstaedt)
Subject: Re: Man's Tails pattern
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:06:15 GMT

>dancer@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>
>   Ok, maybe I'm looking for the impossible, but I hope someone out there can
>>help me find a pattern for a man's tails. Ie. the tux w/ tails. I have the  
>>burda pattern for tux, it is ok if a bit generous in the arms and legs width
>>wise (not lengthwise).
>
>I never heard of a tuxedo with tails? I think "tails" are cut quite
>differently, with a seam in the waist and curved seams in the back. The
>pants are probably the same, though.

A tailcoat, worn with a white evening vest and white tie, is definitely
different from a tuxedo (or dinner jacket), worn with black tie and either
black cummerbund or evening vest.

The less formal dinner jacket is cut essentially like any other men's suit
jacket, but traditionally black or midnight blue, with satin- or
grosgrain-faced peaked or shawl-collar lapels.  The dinner jacket developed as
a dressed-up version of the smoking jacket in the late 19th century, an
gradually came to replace white tie as the predominating formal evening dress.

The tailcoat was originally a double-breasted day coat.  Now it's no longer
fastened (unlike the dinner jacket, which should always be fastened), but it
retains the six-button arrangement on its front from it's functionally
double-breasted days.  The tailcoat, like the dinner jacket, has peaked lapels
(very rarely shawl-collar), also faced with satin or grosgrain.  It ends
at the waist, much higher than an ordinary suit jacket.

The tails are cut--hmm, this is hard to describe--well, in an angular way away
with respect to the bottom of the coat's front---not like a morning coat---and
should end slightly above the knee.  Also, there are a couple buttons next to
each other in the back, roughly at waist height.  This is a remnant of the
late 1700s when the tailcoat, before becoming a formal day coat, was for
riding.  The buttons were fastened to a pair of buttonholes on the tails, so
that they wouldn't flap in the breeze when the wearer was riding.

Edwardian tailcoats generally are close-fitted with princesse seams in the
back.  I'm not sure if that's true for what hangs in formalwear shops today,
though.

Trousers worn with black or white tie are nowadays the same, but to be
obsessively traditional, the braid on the outside vertical seems should be a
little bit wider for white tie trousers than for black tie.  (The braid on the
seams also has equestrian origins.)

As to where to find patterns, which is what you're really interested in, I'm
not sure of a good modern source.  However, while reading through old issues
of the "American Tailor and Cutter,"  I did find several patterns, though
they're not like the modern patterns you'd get in a fabric store.

Hope this helps.

Andrew Eichstaedt
AEichsta@Athena.MIT.Edu
From: scott@Apple.COM (scott douglass)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: White Superlock 734DW
Date: 16 Aug 92 05:11:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Does anyone have this serger?  I looked at it at Douglas' in Palo Alto.
He carries White/Hobbylock and Elna.  I liked this one because it
does 2-thread overlock as well as 3/4 thread.  It has differential
feed and is supposed to be easy to thread.  He wanted $700 (ouch).

He tried to sell me on a fancy five thread with LCD displays that
tell you what tension to use for different stitches, but I'm not
sure.  I don't know if it's worth $200 more.  But am I going to
regret it down the road?  Do people like their five threads, or are
you happy with 3/4?

Another question, though.  A lot of RTW knit stuff (for example,
Hanna Andersen kids' stuff) will have a hem that is topstitched
with one or two needles and overlock-looking on the bottom.  The
guy at Douglas' said sergers can't do that; you have to use a zig-zag
with a double needle.  I'm sure he's right, but I was disappointed.

Are these $300 machines someone mentioned really any good?  What's
the difference?  Is it the differential feed?  Thanks.

		--  maggie

PS  If anybody has phone numbers for mail order places, could you
e-mail me?

-- 
				--scott douglass
Any opinions above may be mine and are not necessarily those of Apple Computer.
domain: scott@apple.com  UUCP: {nsc, sun, voder, well, dual}!apple!scott
CSNet: scott@Apple.CSNet  AppleLink: Douglass1
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: hartley@centerline.com (Timm Hartley)
Subject: Re: Speaking of sergers...
Followup-To: alt.sewing
Organization: CenterLine Software
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:35:28 GMT

In article <LGOLD.92Aug12163413@callahans.Cadence.COM>,
lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) wrote:
> 
> My mother gave me a $300. check she wanted me to use on the serger
> they sell at Price Club.
> 
>$300 sounds like a decent price for a serger these days. Do you happen to know what make it is? The last one I looked at was $450-500.

       Timm Hartley I Production Assistant
CenterLine Software I hartley@centerline.com
      10 Fawcett St I "Back off man! Don't 
Cambridge, MA 02138 I make me use this!!"
                         -Ren Hoek-
From: slwj4@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: news
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:44:17 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

:write:
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: EXTENDED BRA SURVEY
From: sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes)
Date: 22 Aug 92 16:26:22 GMT
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

tjgerman@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Trevor German) writes:


>	Since I started this survey I have quickly come to discover
>	that there is much more here than I first thought. I have
>	therefore decided to expand the survey to include more
>	parameters to collect. 

>	[ ... lots of questions about bra-wearing habits...]

What on earth is this doing in rec.sewing? And why is Mr. German so
interested in ladies' underpinnings? Did I miss an article
explaining that he's doing the research for his doctoral thesis or
something? :-)

Just wondering... I'm as curious about Mr. German's motives as he is
about my undies!   :-)

Sally Holmes
From: conib@peri.gvg.tek.com (Coni Britten)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Yellow fabric
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:22:02 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <18AUG199207410160@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> psburns@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MAUREEN BURNS) writes:
>
>Anyway, while I've noticed a lack of yellow fabric in the fabric store, 
>I've also noticed a lack of yellow anything in the ready to wear arena in 
>department stores.  
>
>What's the taboo on yellow?  Any ideas?
>
>Maureen


It's just that yellow's been "out of style" these days (has been for a while,
too.)  Until a couple of years ago forest or hunter green was impossible to
find (blue-greens were as close as you could get, and for a time they were
*much* closer to blue than green.)  As you say, you've seen mustard yellow
and lemon yellow popping up lately.  I've noticed that the yellows are
making a comeback, and a bet in a couple of years you'll see a wider range.

I can remember when you couldn't find brown to save your soul, much less
yellow or green.

The "winter" colors (no yellow base) that had been so popular in the 80's
are being replaced by the "autumn" (yellow based) colors for the 90's.  For
example, it's getting pretty difficult to find magenta/fuchsia these days,
and when I actually have seen it, it was in such places as the "women's"
section in lower-end ready-to-wear.

I think that the color trends that the fiber industries go through can be
a real pain.  It's frustrating when a particularly nice yarn or fabric or
garment doesn't come in a color range simply because it's not "in" this
decade.

But I've found that it's easier to find yarn than fabric and easier to find
fabric than garments in colors which are not the current trend.  So those
of us who weave, knit, and/or sew have the advantage and can still exercise
our "color rights".  :-)


Coni B.
conib@peri.gvg.tek.com
From: koo@tcville.edsg.hac.com (Frances Koo)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: DMC assortment
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:47:13 GMT
Reply-To: koo@tcville.UUCP (Frances Koo)
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

In article <9208131910.AA03134@marny.Corp.Sun.COM>
Marina.Salume@Corp.Sun.COM (Marina Salume) writes:

>My latest Herrschners catalog lists the 360 skein DMC assortment for $90.
>...
>The floss swatch card costs $13.95.

I just ordered a DMC floss 360-color shade card for $9.95 + shipping from
the Mary Maxim catalog today.  They are selling 100 colors of DMC floss for
$25.  If you can hold on till Monday, I'll bring the information with me.

    Frances (koo@tcville.hac.com)
From: ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Western shirts
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:48:43 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

I'm looking for patterns for Western style shirts.  I've used the McCalls
pattern for the traditional style shirt, but I need to find one that has
more of the cavalry (for lack of any better description) style; one that
has buttons on both sides of the front or one that has the buttons
offset.  If anyone can give me any suggestions where I might find these,
please e-mail me directly.

Thanks in advance..

*************************************************************************
Patricia M. Schneider         BITNET   -  ICSPMS@ASUACAD
Systems Programmer, Senior    INTERNET -  ICSPMS@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
Arizona State University      VOICE    -  (602) 965-2826
Tempe, AZ  85287-0101
*************************************************************************
From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Yellow fabric
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:34:22 GMT
Organization: Sylvan Associates

Various colors become difficult to find (only leftovers from some time
ago) because the mills don't usually produce colors that are not
popular with the designers at the time. So when a color you want
becomes hard to find in stores, it will likely become hard to find in
fabric stores, too.

I wanted to make my daughter a Roo costume in velour (I was willing to
pay full price) and I had the darndest time finding the brown I
wanted. I finally did, on a discount rack. Forest green wool blends
were not available one year when I had an order for a cloak from it. I
asked for them to special order it, but nothing like it was on the
order sheets.

While I think my grandchildren might inherit some of the fabric in my
sewing room, I've definitely realized over the years that if I find a
fabric that I really like, especially if the price is right, I need to
buy it *then*, and not assume I can get it 'later' when I want it.

-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92
=======================
I'm a mammal and proud of it!
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 10:14:30 MST
From: <ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject:    Frostline Catalog


Just want to say thank you to everyone who responded to my Frostline
catalog request.  I called them and have already received it!  Now
I just need to get busy sewing those backpacks, paniers, etc., etc.
for Christmas presents!

**************************************************************************
Patricia M. Schneider           BITNET    - ICSPMS@ASUACAD
Systems Programmer, Senior      INTERNET  - ICSPMS@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
Arizona State University        VOICE     - (602) 965-2826
Tempe, AZ  85287-0101
From: hosking@cubic.com (Ana M. Hosking)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Gloves pattern ...
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:28:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cubic Toll Systems

Hi!

I am looking for a pattern to make gloves, or any source with instructions
in how to make them. I looked in the regular patterns catalogs (Vogue, 
Butterick, Simplicity, McCalls) but so far the only thing I've found is a
pattern for gloves cuffs in Vogue.

Thank you all in advance for any hints you can provide.

Ana
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Stain on Silk
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:16:18 GMT

In article <Valerie.713619501@femto.engr.mun.ca>, valerie@nano.engr.mun.ca (Valerie Fortier) writes:
> HELP!!
> I have stained my royal blue silk shirt...please help
> I realize that maybe a alt.laundry group should take this
> posting but this is my first time posting anything, anywhere, and recently this
> group gave good advice on yellow stains...
> 
>  
> It appears to be margarine from frying eggs this a.m-(one disgusting
> little spot standing alone in an ocean of deep blue)-It's one of those
> washable silk shirts that appear in every shop but it is my favourite
> and I'd hate to give it up just yet. 
> 
> Any suggestions??
> 
> P.S.  I'm also a sewer and read this newsgroup every morning with my
> coffee.  If this posting goes o.k. maybe I'll have some info to
> contribute one day.  Thanks, Bye.


I had a similar problem, I got baby oil on my sueded silk chemise, and I mean
_ALL_ over it!  I was moaning about the problem to a co-worker who recommended
shampoo.  Well, since I had nothing to lose, I hand-washed the chemise in a
strong solution of shampoo and water, let it dry, and voila!  No oil.  It did
not alter the color at all, and took all the oil out beautifully.  I used a
cheap awapuhi shampoo I'd bought at Target and didn't like for my hair, but
it works great for oil on silk.  I keep it in the laundry room now. 

Hope that helps!

Kellie Matthews-Simmons
internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: pam@admin.acadiau.ca (Pam Dimock)
Subject: RICCAR
Keywords: serger
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:17:18 GMT

I know we've done serger questions ad infinitum. I have two: 1. where is the 
FAQ for sergers (if indeed there is one); and 2. has anyone ever heard of a 
Riccar 4-thread serger?

Thanks
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
From: euafri@eua.ericsson.se (Fredrik.Ostman)
Subject: Re: Man's Tails pattern
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:11:42 GMT

daveu@sco.COM (Dave Uebele) writes:

>I was going to just mail, but since you asked, I'm posting.

Good for you! :-)
--
  ______                     _~
 (_/_ _  _  _/) _  . /)     / ) , _/)     _
__/ _/(_(/_(/__/(_/_/Z_    (_/_/)_/__/))_(I_/)_
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
From: rrah@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Runa Rahman)
Subject: The Green Pepper - address and phone number
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:36:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.143356.29603@philabs.philips.com> kts@philabs.philips.com (Kimberley T. Smith) writes:
>Biking shorts?!!
>i want that pattern.
>What is The Green Pepper?  Do they do mail order?  can i get a catalog?

The Green Pepper is a wonderful source for outerwear and actionwear patterns,
fabrics and notions.  They also have patterns for backpacks, duffel bags, 
cycling paniers, etc.

	The Green Pepper
	3918 West First Avenue
	Eugene, OR 97402

	Visa/MC orders: 1-800-767-5684

$2 for a catalog, or free with any order.
From: carolp@techbook.com (Carolyn Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: advice on making a man's shirt
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:28:01 GMT
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

pjd@ecs.soton.ac.uk (PJ Dickinson) writes:

>While we are on the subject, does anyone know why there are such a 
>shortage of men's patterns in the catalogues which you see in the
>department stores? Is it because not many people make men's 
>clothes, or is it because men's clothes do not follow fashions as
>much as women's do?

My vote is because men's clothes don't follow fashions much.  A basic
pattern for a button shirt, another for a pullover shirt & one for
some slacks and you could be set for a number of years!  The difference
between a dressy button-up shirt and a casual one is mainly the fabric
used for construction and how the pocket is treated.  

Men, like my husband, who only require that their clothing be in good 
repair and fit comfortably, but otherwise aren't concerned about the  
appearance, may be a big factor in the stability of men's clothing styles.


-- 
Carolyn Peterson          
carolp@techbook.COM  
(No affiliation with Techbooks)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: lcatlett@milton.u.washington.edu (Lynn Catlett)
Subject:   Curly Jersey
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:56:50 GMT


Greetings O Accomplished Ones!  

I've been making trousers (leggings) out of cotton
jersey (T-shirt stuff, actually) and the question is:  

is the ANY way to keep the edges of this stuff from
rolling up when you cut on anything but the straight 
grain or perpendicular to it???  

I cut the inseam on a diagonal and proceeded to 
become very hot and disagreeable while trying to 
sew the (bleep)ing thing...

grrrrr!
Lynn

Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: jlecher@pbs.org
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Help with sewing machine
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:48:43 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <92230.135328P85016@BARILVM.BITNET>, Michael Cohen <P85016@BARILVM.BITNET> writes:
> Hello,
> 
> My wife uses a very ancient Singer machine (not motorized)
> and often complains about the lack of a motor, zig-zag,
> ligth, and many more "modern" features.
> I want to surprise her and buy a new machine.

Well, your heart's in the right place, but I have a warning.
I used to sell sewing machines, and please PLEASE DO NOT
*surprise* your wife with a new machine. It's sortof like
surprising her with a new house. If you want to make sure that
she'll get a machine that's right for her, take her on a 
shopping trip to buy one. Surprise! I've seen many women bring
a machine back to learn how to use it, after being surprised by
their husbands, and realized that the machines just weren't 
right for them. There were too many features, too few features,
etc... 
At least to me, a sewing machine is a very personal item, and
as much as I'd appreciate a present of a new machine, I'd rather
pick out my machine myself. My father had the right idea: when he
wanted to help me get a new machine, he sent me a check. I got the
machine I wanted, and he gave me a present he KNEW I'd love.

Jane


> Is there a "personal element" in sewing machines ? (then I
> will not buy anything before she will try it), or every good
> machine is good for all.
> 
Exactly what I said before. There is a 'personal element' in sewing
machines, at least for most sew-ers. Am I right, fellow sew-ers?


>
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
From: fran@Cadence.COM (Fran Peterson)
Subject: Re: Man's Tails pattern
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:10:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.122901.1760@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> dancer@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>Hello,
>
>   Ok, maybe I'm looking for the impossible, but I hope someone out there can
>help me find a pattern for a man's tails. Ie. the tux w/ tails. I have the  
>burda pattern for tux, it is ok if a bit generous in the arms and legs width
>wise (not lengthwise).
>
>   If anyone knows of a company/mail order place where I can get said pattern,
>I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. 
>
>   Please post for any others who may want this information.
>
Yes, Yes, Please, Please post!!  I want to make a ladies tux w/tails for
New Years Eve party.

Thanks,

Fran Peterson

F [:)

Newsgroups: alt.sewing