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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:08:08 GMT


In article <C0F996.3oJ@queernet.org>, rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
|> In article <C0E1Ax.DDM@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> >We have some (Eternity) - a gift - that we use for bathroom
|> >spray.  One spritz and two people's reactions
|> >to cuban black beans is nicely neutralized.
|> 
|> Or mine to milk, as I recall; one of the things of which I am most
|> intolerant is lactose, eh, Greg?

Being the perfect host, I of course did
not notice.

Actually, you can't have two people in 
a small apartment in NYC during those
seasons where the windows stay closed
(summer and winter) and have a taste
for well-seasoned interesting foods and
continue to have hangups about the fact 
that humans shit regularly and that it 
usually stinks, and the precurser to 
taking a big smelly dump is often oily 
stank farts.

What I am *not* used to is the odors produced
by protein-shake-drinking queer barbellas who
use ForePlay as an anal sex lubricant.  

Truly, insistently rank.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Musings on Madonna
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 11:56:25 GMT

In article <16B521096.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu>
TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney) writes:

>Methinks that by now we've seen just about every orifice
>the woman owns.

Earlier on, it was Sean Penn's I wanted to see.

<> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
<> In practice, there is.  -- Muffy Barkocy
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: Josh Simon <jsimon@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Capitalization (dubious MOTSS content)
Originator: jsimon@sushi.convex.com
Reply-To: jsimon@convex.COM (Josh Simon)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:48:17 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <C0rC4J.8xr@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.172446.28371@psych.toronto.edu> jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis) writes:
>>Ooooo!  I'm in the Quotes File*!
>>* It's become a soc.motss institution:  it deserves to be capitalized.
>You mean Cabatalized.
You mean Cabalitized.
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From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov.bitnet (Jim Wylde)
Subject: Re: Gay-bashing (was: Re: Private...)
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:18:41 GMT

jefu@nmt.edu (Jeff Putnam) writes:

>I'm still puzzling over the crowd of kids who followed (chased?) me
>up a street once yelling "faggot".  It wasnt a gay area of the city
>(Albany, NY), nor did I think I was particularly identifiable.  (I
>was out for my morning run at the time and was wearing running shoes,
>shorts and a disreputable t-shirt.)  
>
>I suppose it could be that they were just using faggot as a generic
>epithet, but kids walked up and down the street in front of my house
>quite often and I heard them yell lots of other things at each other
>but never faggot.  

I dunno!  Maybe you were more 'identifiable' than you thought
Although I don't think any of us except for the seriously
stereotypical queens are any more identifiable than anyone
else.  Hmmmm...... Het's don't really have GAYDAR (tm).....
Perhaps one or more knew/knew of you?  Maybe one closeted
schmuck was in a bar and recognized you...

Jim


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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: I am confused
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:08:35 GMT

dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) wrote: 
->In the last week, several people have told me that when they think of
->my personality/interpersonal-style,  I remind them of Mary Poppins.

oh, no.  not at all.  i don't know who i'd compare you with, but mary
poppins does not come to mind (i had a boss who reminded us all of
mary poppins <steve: remember my first boss, the documentation manager
at project athena?> ... )

->Does anyone have any idea:
->A) is this a good thing?

probably not.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
# "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.
From: mattg@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Matthew Gormley)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:03:01 GMT
Subject: Re: re: Nominations for best men's colognes
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: soc.motss

My vote is for Eau De Natural.  Irish Spring or Lever 2000 is about as pungent
as I like it to get.  Then again, Eau De Sweat can be nice too on the right
person.

I think the only cologne that I've ever liked was Nino Cerutti (in a *VERY
LIGHT* dose).  Too many people (men, women, gay, straight) marinate themselves
in whatever and end up overwhelming everyone around them.  It's even worse
in a smoke filled bar with several competing colognes.  The things we do to
ourselves.

Matt
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Is Dan Quayle a Twinkie?
From: roger@otago.ac.nz (Roger Grauwmeijer)
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:39:51 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <1993Jan11.130051.783@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
> 	A curious thought has occurred to me as this Administration
> winds down.
> 
> 	If Dan Quayle was gay, would he be a Twinkie? He has good
> looks, but he is rather short of brains. 

What an *insult* to Twinkies!

> 	Even if he is not a Twinkie, he is certainly a male bimbo.
                                                            ^^^^^
Read moron.

Rog.
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Glendale
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:56:57 GMT

Wow. And Omaha's Boy's Town is quite literally a town for boys. I
wonder if we can trade?

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From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
Subject: Thanks Ronnie Jr :)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 08:23:18 GMT

In the end and after several months of poverty it appears losing my job
at WPI worked out for the best. A short term consulting job seems to have
turned into full time. 
I just broke the record for getting a Kodak medical film printer interface
to work by atleast a factor of 10 :) 
(now if only I was making 10 times the runner ups rate....)

Back to printing....
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: penis size (was Re: Muffin on Parade)
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:02:18 GMT


In article <C0530L.L7J@agora.rain.com>, bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
|> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <C02xFJ.19v@agora.rain.com> bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
|> >>I'm sitting at my terminal debating on whether to post this or
|> >>abort.  I know I'm going to get flamed by morons who can't believe
|> >>that anybody would consider this to be a problem.
|> >>Fuck it.  I'm tired of remaining silent.
|> 
|> >Wanna trade?
|> 
|> You still don't get it, do you?  Your response is a prime example
|> of why we don't want to talk about it.  We know that if we try to discuss 
|> our feelings somebody's going to respond with a flip remark or 
|> laugh at us for being self-conscious or accuse us of bragging. 

But Brent, you have to admit that it *sounds* like
"Don't hate me because I'm beautiful"!  You've got
a physical attribute that other people would like
to have (in both senses of the word.)  What's wrong
with that?

I'm not sure what sort of response you were looking
for or thought would be appropriate.  No one is denying
or degrading your experiences in school, and some people
*are* saying - as friends - "I should have such a problem!"

|> I threw away my tape measure.  What difference does that make?
|> I wish I'd never posted that article now.  Every size queen on
|> the net has been pestering me for details.  None of these guys
|> ever bothered to reply to my posts before.  What kind of a message
|> do you think that conveys?  That I'm a piece of meat, that's what.

Well, you *are* a piece of meat, along with all the
other things you are.  You are physically attractive
to some people - lucky you.  I *like* being physically
attractive to my lovers.  

|> No, and now I feel more self-conscious than ever.  I feel like if
|> I'm ever at a motss-con in a clothing-optional situation that
|> everybody's going to be staring at me, checking it out.  That 
|> makes me feel like a freak!  No thank you.

Not a freak, Brent!  Just a man with a big dick, like
some guys are furry and some muscular and some tall and
some with whatever attributes people find attractive.


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From: sfsmith@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Sandy F. Smith, Jr.)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "In the Life"/Gay Comedian/Military Ban
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:10:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <m0n9N9v-0000E4C@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>, rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
> 
> Three Queer queries ;-)
> 
[skipping the first two:]
>
> 3.  I have heard that on January 21st Clinton will be officially signing the
> order to remove the military ban against homosexuals.  Can anyone confirm
> this and what exactly are the implications of the signing of this disban?
> For example, what does the law mean?  Will gays now have to proclaim their
> orientation upon enlistment?  Will the section on the enlistment form be
> officially removed?  What?
> 

News to me.  Last I heard on this subject, he was planning to "consult" with
military brass (who howled when Clinton announced he intended to keep this
promise) and others about how best to implement a lifting of the ban.  I sus-
pect that he is going to let some time pass (and let Defense Secretary-
designate Les Aspin massage the brass into getting with the program) before
signing the executive order.  How long?  Your guess is as good as mine.

> Thanks for your help.

Anytime.

__________________________________________________________________________
Sandy F. Smith, Jr. ___________________________sfsmith@mail.sas.upenn.edu
Graduate Division, School of Arts and Sciences, University of Pennsylvania
16 College Hall, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6378.  (Opinions mine, not Penn's)
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Maria Montez vs Burl Ives, or Lighten Up a Little, Folks
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:05:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan6.040527.7765
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <72970@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>Mara Chibnik writes:
>>Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>> >A more accurate way to frame my opinion is that anything Arne
>> >says has a roughly 95% chance of being a whine.
>>>Usually, a bitchy whine at that.
>>Where "bitchy" means exactly what, in this context?
>Following in the absolutely worst stereotypes of screaming,
>carping, nagging "female" behaviour.

That's not the Arne I've been reading.  Admittedly, it's rather stupid of
me to even bother to say this, but I'm making it explicit for you.  I find
him bright, witty, well-read and opinionated; the very qualities which make
someone shine in a forum like this.  He's, if anything, more impressive in
person.  Anyone would do well to emulate his attributes.  The fact that you
can dismiss him so shallowly (and so offensively) does not serve you particu-
larly well, George.

>Since you bring it to my attention, I note that the usage has
>distinct potential to offend; I will note this and try to do
>better in the future.

Maybe you could try reading what Arne has to say without prejudice.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams)
Subject: Snow-Shoveling Lesbians
Originator: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:55:39 GMT


The New York Times's San Francisco reporter, Jane Gross,
often slips G/L references into her articles.  Today's
(1/7/93) was no exception.  In a report on the recent (and
even as we type) heavy snowfall in Northern California, she
writes from a tiny hamlet in Siskiyou County...

    ...Nancy Sherer, the postmistress in nearby Castella,
    just over the Shasta County line, had just about run out
    of good cheer in the face of the storms.

    She and her companion, a retired gym teacher, live in a
    primitive cabin five miles off the main road in Castle
    Crag State Park.  They own a snow-plow, a tractor, a
    chain saw, a generator, a propane refrigerator and a
    wood stove [eat your heart out, Melinda :-)].  They
    thought they were ready for just about anything...
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: tearoom sex and bathroom police
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:13:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.075727.19300@lclark.edu>
snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:

>Before the Portland Police Department
>started a crack down on one of our parks a leak occured and the gay 
>community was alerted to what would be happening.  So we protected
>the people in the parks and we protect ourselves from some bad p.r.

In a free society you would not need "protection" from law
enforcement.  In a free society, sex in park toilets would
not be a public-relations issue.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: zw{i,a}cky matters
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:34:14 GMT

In article <C0JnFw.1qK@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <C0G27z.90u@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>>>A therblig is a 'Gilbreth' spelt backwards, Gilbreth as in 'John Kenneth'.
>>John Kenneth?  Then surely you meen "Galbraith", and the reversal would
>>be a "thiarblag".
>I'm amazed at the things I learn on the net.  Most of all that "th"
>spelled backwards is "th."

Ah, you're still sore at be cos I nitted you about bout "media ... is",
aren't you?

It wasn't a "spelled" backwards, as such; more a "said" backwards.

				Kay



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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: Is Dan Quayle a Twinkie?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:56:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.134309.14278@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

> I wasn't aware that "twink" conveyed any such notion of
> mental vacuity...If it isn't a term assigned by genetic accident,
> then it's a (negative) epithet that sensitive, caring people
> wouldn't use, right?
> 
> Right?

Right, Jess.

But you might want to check your archives, just to make sure. I seem
to recall some argument about what people meant by "twink" right here
in our very own soc.motss sometime within the last couple of years,
and at least some people included "airheadedness" in the definition.
In fact, I've seen an item in somebody's quotes line (not yours, I
suspect) quoting a late beloved friend with reference to the putative
brainlessness of twinks; even though clearly tongue-in-cheek, it was
obviously referring to *something*.
From: broughton@lambda.usask.ca ()
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: IN THE LIFE
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:36:13 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
Reply-To: broughton@lambda.usask.ca ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: lambda.usask.ca

Does anyone know when IN THE LIFE airs in the Detroit area (channel 56)?  If it
does at all!

Thanks!
Darrell
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson)
Subject: Re: Bar etiquette
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1993Jan3.062520.3441@reed.edu>
	<1993Jan3.165147.23504@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>
	<1993Jan5.074644.22851@spdcc.com> <TIM.93Jan5070652@ear-ache.mit.edu>
	<thaaang.726307762@cwis>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:26:54 GMT

In article <thaaang.726307762@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

   tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson) writes:

   >Also, did they have Kryspy Kreme donuts in Atlanta?

   Who else shuddered when they read this?

Shuddered?  With delight.  Krispy Kremes (I misspelled it the first
time) are, with The Krystal, among the South's great contributions 
to American consumer culture (should all those ``c's'' be ``k's''?),
food division, in the first half of the twentieth century. 

Angular, brick, chrome and glass donut shops, formica counters and
plastic covered stools, a red and turquoise color scheme.  A rotating
KK on top of each that flashes when the donuts are just made.  A glass
pane separating the coffee shop from the kitchen so you can watch the 
donuts slide and shimmy through the cutting, rising, and frying
process.  And that yeasty smell and taste beats anything Dunkin'
Donuts could, does, or ever will make.  Humpy cops and hustlers
drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes.  Four o'clock in the morning:
How long was I in that peep show? 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:12:00 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <mattm-050193154853@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

>Nonsense!  We are at the epicenter of the known Universe!
>All things revolve around San Francisco!  Why, there isn't
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>a day that goes by I am not made dizzy by the swirling 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>maelstrom of activity.  Perferdidious in the extreme to
>claim otherwise!  

>*X*

Dizzy is as dizzy does?   :-)

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From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Help (was: The Crying Game (AGAIN..) NO SPOILERS.)
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:45:55 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <1993Jan11.182501.26128@osf.org>,
coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
> 
> Saw it yesterday. I recommend it. But, like Eleanor Bron in "Help",
> I can say no more.

Is that "Help" the Beatles movie?
I went to see that, in a double bill with "Yellow Submarine"
as my (um) twelfth-or-so birthday treat,
instead of having a party.

I remember my Dad having to explain the reference in YS to "blue glass".

Did you get the Beatles TV cartoon series in the States?

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: California to boycott Colorado?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 21:53:50 EST
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 California Assemblyman Richard Polanco introduced resolution today that would
prohibit state employees from traveling to Colorado on official business.
The Loss Angeles Democrat told a news conference that the resolution is aimed
at Colorado's infamous Amendment 2.

   
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