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From: lipp@sierra.com (Damon Lipparelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP-UX 9.0 & X11R4/Motif1.1
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:01:43 GMT
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

With the impending release of HP-UX 9.0, I was wondering if the X11R4 and
Motif1.1 libraries will link OK under the new compilers and linkers that I
gather will be in the new operating system updates.  My company is not
going to be able to jump to X11R5 and Motif1.2 immediately, but we need the
compiler bug fixes.

Thanks for any information,
Damon Lipparelli

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From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: C compiling on HPUX
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:00:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: tivoli.5061
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc


|> 	cc -o macps -s -O macps.o macaux.o ucbwhich.o
|> 	ld: Undefined external -
|> 	_getwd
|> 	ld: output file still contains undefined symbols
|> 	*** Error code 1
|> 

  getwd() is a BSDism.
  getcwd() is SYSV (and HPUX).

Note that getcwd() uses 2 arguments, one of which is the length of the
buffer passed in.  Use MAXPATHLEN if you arent sure, and make sure your
buffer is at least that big.

|
|> 	extern char  *sprintf()
|>

  sprintf() returns an int on some systems (the int is the #of characters
  copied into the buffer), and a char* (copy of the buffer) on others.

  Safe coding says (void *)sprintf() and use the buffer.

stuart 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:11740 comp.sys.hp48:5169
From: frank@smartstar.com (Frank Dziuba)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP 9100A calculator?
Summary: Do old hp calculators have any value as antiques?
Keywords: antique hp9100a
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:09:07 GMT
Organization: SmartStar Corp. / Signal Technolgy Inc.


Hi,

	I have an old HP 9100A desktop programmable calculator (circa 1970s)
that still works!  It uses CORE memory, has a 4 level stack with a 4 line
crt display, a magnetic card reader, and uses all DIODE logic!

	The inside of the machine is gold plated on the circuit board traces,
they just don't make em like that any more.

	I also have the companion plotter (which also works). It uses an
ANALOG feedback system to draw digital data which is received from the
calculator.

	My question is: Are there collectors of old HP equipment out there?
How would I go about getting it appraised? Any information would be helpful.

thanks,
	frank dziuba

frank@smartstar.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: wehr@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com (Bruce Wehr)
Subject: Re: buffering on stdio
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:18:05 GMT

    Sorry ... I didn't include a solution. For most applications, it is
    not critical that stdout and sterr are properly sequenced. If it is
    critical to your application, you can either fflush(stdout) before
    any I/O to stderr, or you can setbuf(stdout, (char *)NULL) before
    any I/O to stdout - the latter will disable buffering of stdout.

    Good luck.

--
               Bruce Wehr (wehr%dptc.decnet@srlvx0.srl.ford.com)
	           Ford Motor Company - Electronics Division
   Electronics Technical Center - Powertrain Electronic Controls Engineering
       17000 Rotunda Drive, Room B360, Dearborn, MI  48121 (313)248-5530
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mandell@brahms.helios.nd.edu (Dan Mandell)
Subject: Seeking mail filter
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:25:55 GMT

We are new to HPUX administration, and our system administrator is deluged with
unnecessary mail messages.  Is there some way to filter out unwanted mail.

What are we looking for?


Dan Mandell (mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu)
Saint Mary's College, Computer Services 
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556  -  Phone: (219) 284-4610

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: heeres@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Ken Heeres)
Subject: backspace key under HP-UX
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:03:23 GMT

My users complain that when they use mail or ftp under HP-UX the backspace
key does not truely erase.  When they are in the shell the backspace key works.
If I explicity enter an stty command assigning the erase function to ^H then
it works in both places.  Do I have somethhing wrong?  Where should I fix it?

ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: kartik@medusa.arc.nasa.gov (Kartik Vandra)
Subject: SCSI Magneto-Optical Disk Drives
Organization: Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Distribution: comp.sys.hp
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:03:09 GMT

I have an HP data acquisition system that runs on an
HP382 using hp-ux 8.00.  I am interested if anyone has
used a magneto-optical disk drive, either an HP drive
or preferrably a third party product.

The data is quite large and will not fit on the 400Mbyte
hard disk.  The data acquisition program can read the raw 
data that is saved to disk.  Thus, I would like the
flexibility of the magneto-optical drive to switch between
the different data acquisition sessions for post-processing
and plotting.

Please send e-mail or post to this net.  Thanks in advance.
From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HPUX 9.0 LaserRom
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:06:12 GMT
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

In article <6937@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu writes:
>Came in the mail today... hope the Cd-roms with hpux 9.0 are
>following close behing ;-)
>
Me too!  Anybody else notice that the label on the 9.0 hpux lrom cd says
"MPE V Documentation Disc?"  My confidence levels are soaring.... ;-o

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: wehr@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com (Bruce Wehr)
Subject: Re: buffering on stdio
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:09:59 GMT

stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel) writes:
: 
: If I stick to the stdio library, ala printf, vprintf, puts, putchar ...
: can the data I am writing get misordered to the output stream?

    While stdout is normally buffered, stderr is not. So, if stdout and
    stderr both point to the same place and you mix stdio calls
    (printf, fprintf, etc) between them, then the answer to your
    question is:  Yes, the data you are writing can get misordered.

--
               Bruce Wehr (wehr%dptc.decnet@srlvx0.srl.ford.com)
	           Ford Motor Company - Electronics Division
   Electronics Technical Center - Powertrain Electronic Controls Engineering
       17000 Rotunda Drive, Room B360, Dearborn, MI  48121 (313)248-5530
From: mark@elea.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: anybody using Xasteroids out there on hp700 series???
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:04:59 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <fish.718319768@news2.gsfc.nasa.gov> fish@daacdev1.stx.com writes:
>i got xasteroids from the uk ftp site and it didn't work under VUE
>so i got out of VUE and did just started X w/ Motif wm layered on
>and i got into a hpterm and from there issued the command the Install
>file recommended: xterm -geometry +0+0 -e xasteroids & 
>
>but the same thing that happened under VUE happened still - once i 
>hit return to start it asks to select 1 or 2 players and all of my keyboard
>input is ignored


Here's what I found to be happening:  If you kill your window manager, you
can play.  If you don't, it doesn't work.

I think that asteroids tries to take over the whole display, but the window
manager is interfering.  The following hack makes it run in a normal window.
You have to move the window to center it on the screen (mwm always puts windows
someplace you don't want them), but otherwise it works fine.


*** plot.xwin.c.org     Fri Aug 14 17:35:31 1992
--- plot.xwin.c Tue Sep  8 18:07:03 1992
***************
*** 29,37 ****
--- 29,39 ----
                                      0, 0, plot_maxX, plot_maxY,
                                      0, WhitePixelOfScreen(plot_screen),
                                      BlackPixelOfScreen(plot_screen));
+ #if 0
      attrib.override_redirect = 1;
      XChangeWindowAttributes(plot_display, plot_window,
                            CWOverrideRedirect, &attrib);
+ #endif

      setGC = XCreateGC(plot_display, plot_window, 0,
                      (XGCValues *) 0);
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com (rodney jacks)
Subject: WANTED: Perl for HP 700
Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:17:50 GMT

Could someone tell me where I might be able to get a copy
of Perl for the HP 700 via anonymous FTP.  I'd prefer
a compiled and working copy since I've been unable to build
the GNU version of Perl I obtained from UMich archives. 
We don't have Yacc on our 700s.

Thanks,
Rodney Jacks
rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: xexeo@dxcern.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo)
Subject: ELM: Corrupt mail file
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:14:47 GMT

I've been suffering from continous crashes of ELM, which complains,
during the $ command of "corrupted mail file" (seems that /usr/mail/<user>
is corrupted). The problem usually happen AFTER deleting a big number
of mails when I have a big number of mails on the file.

As example, the last error ocurred when I marked for deletion 40 mails over
89. ELM deleted them and crashed!

I am a heavy mail user, since I manage 2 mailing lists, and cannot afford
the luxury of loosing mails (up to now I was able to recover them), since
my boss works 12000Km from me. I will be grateful to any help.

   Cheers,

              Jerry
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From: blh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Bill Hassell)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:46:15 GMT
Subject: Re: printing from HP LaserROM/UX
Organization: Kudzu Headquarters South
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Probably the easiest workaround is to create an lp script that
'clones' the command and options you need to use your spooler.  A good
example of this /usr/bin/lpr which is used to clone the lpr command
into lp.

Be sure to edit /usr/lrom/prnlist.gen to return the list of available
printers by name.  lrom will make the command:

       lp -oraw -d<name_of_printer>

so your clone script will need to pull the printer name from the -d
option and translate it if needed.

$include std_disclaimers...heck, I've never met Bill and Dave

Bill (CDROMs...keeping users from removing important data) Hassell
From: eugene@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Gene Dick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-UX Patches ????
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:56:52 GMT
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO

> In comp.sys.hp, nevin@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Joseph Nevin) writes:
> 
> 
>     Does anyone know if  HP-UX patches (specifically PHKL_0743) are
>     available through the Internet?  If they are not available I can
>     get it in a few days time, but would be able to get it via the 
>     Internet.  Thanks 
> 
>       Joe.
> 
>     nevin@titan.trl.oz.au
> 

PHKL_0743 is available via HPSL (HP Support Line) on the net.

Gene Dick
#include std-disclaimer
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:11715 comp.sources.wanted:4682 alt.sources.wanted:1623 comp.dcom.fax:1882
From: gerard@integow.uucp (Gerard Huysmans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted,comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: FAX software
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:29:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Integrity BV, Woerden, the Netherlands

From article <1992Oct14.212556.7337@news.uit.no>, by bjoerns@stud.cs.uit.no (Bjoern Stabell):
> I just tried GNU's fax software, but to no avail.  Our FAX, which is a
> Xerox Multinational Telecopier 7021 (S-869), didn't understand the fax-modem
> commands (it's not a fax-modem, so it's very surprising *sigh*).
> 
The main reason for other fax software packages not to support the
Xerox facsimiles is simple: Xerox uses some weird, hard to implement
communication protocol, which doesn't even look like the AT+ class1 or
class2 command set.

As far as I know, there are only two companies who market software for
the Xerox 7021 telecopier.  For all DOS environments connected into a
Novell network, there is the Lan-Fax Express software from Rank Xerox
(either UK or NL).

Those users of Xerox telecopiers (facsimile machines) that want
to connect their hardware to a UNIX box might want to take a look
at the i(F)x faxsoftware for UNIX.  As I am one of the guys responsible
for that development of that product, here are some details:

    * i(F)x runs on most UNIX boxes which OS is compatible
      with SVR4.
    * i(F)x supports Xerox telecopiers (7021 and 7033) and most of
      the AT+ class2 faxes. All in ONE configuration!
    * Supported datatypes: ASCII, PBM, G3, WordPerfect data, PostScript.
      The user can easily add support for other datatypes.
    * Automatic generation of coverpages. Tailored to user wishes.
    * Integration of scanned images, pictures, logos and signatures in
      a document or the coverpage.
    * Automatic routing of received fax messages to some printer.
    * Configurable parameters like: batch-size, retry count and time.
    * Restricted transmission based on combination of phone number
      pattern and hour table.
    * Restricted transmission based on list of user names.

We are currently working on a Client-Server version for either DOS or
UNIX clients in a TCP/IP network.
	
If you want more information, talk to:

Gabriel Carre,                          +31-(0)3480-30131
Sales Manager

he will be glad to answer all your questions.

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Integrity Software Consultants		Phone:	+31-(0)3480-30131
Woerden, the Netherlands		Fax:	+31-(0)3480-30182
From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:50:40 GMT
Subject: Re: <<HP memory mgmt, and my discovery!!>>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> I have been experiencing memory related problems on an HP9k720 using
> HPUX 8.0.7 as follows:
> 
> The system has 80MB of RAM installed.  3-4 users use this system on a daily
> basis using HP VUE, softbench, and other HP development tools.  The basic
> problem is that all available memory will eventually be consumed in the
> course of a week or less without ANY paging or swapping taking place.
> In other words, the concept of virtual memory is being ignored by this
> system.  The O/S was installed in the "standard" way, taking defaults, etc...

You don't indicate what symptom gives you the impression that all memory
has been "consumed".  I expect that processes are failing with messages
about not having memory available.  That kind of message doesn't mean
that you ran out of RAM.  It means that you ran out of swap space.  When
a system runs out of swap space, it runs out of virtual memory.  To see
what swap is available and what swap is used, run "/etc/swapinfo -a" as
root.

You can add more swap by adding a swap device, repartitioning a disk to
have more swap area, or enabling file system swap.  The manual "How
HP-UX Works:  Concepts for System Management" discusses these matters in
Chapter 7, "Memory Management".

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
From: bill@nsma.arizona.edu (Bill Skaggs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: handling color on PaintJetXL
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:09:23 GMT
Organization: ARL Division of Neural Systems, Memory and Aging, University of
	Arizona

We just got a brand new, shiny PaintJet XL.  The color is terrific,
and I'm trying to figure out how to print images on it as nicely as
possible, but it's a bit difficult, because as far as I can tell there
is *no existing documentation* for the PCL5 raster color commands that
the XL uses.  (The PCL5 reference manual does not even mention color.)

If anybody at HP -- or anywhere else -- could email me -- or post -- a
brief description of the usage of commands like "Color Component",
"Color Index", "Configure Image Data", etc, I would be boundlessly
grateful. 

	-- Bill Skaggs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Subject: Re: Need pointers customizing VUE
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:31:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Atlanta GA

In article <1992Oct15.023355.2306@iti.gov.sg>, ronald@iti.gov.sg (Ronald Yap (SE)) writes:
> I have a HP 710 running VUE and have been unsuccessfull in customizing a few things,
> namely...
> 
> 1.  changing the frame-border width of all windows,

I have the following resources set. I think it is the resizeBorderWidth, but try both.

Vuewm*resizeBorderWidth:        5
Vuewm*clientFrameBorderWidth:   5

> 2.  having a console windows, each time I login to display all console messages,

Start an hpterm client with the -C option. This will pick up all the messages. If you are
starting from home session, make sure that you save this setup using the Style Manager.

> 3.  disabling autologout

if you are using csh, do 

unset autologout

simon
From: mark@elea.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How can we get rid of HP VUE.
Keywords: HP VUE, vuewm, mwm
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:20:45 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Oct7.195621.9651@mcs.kent.edu> chen@humboldt.kent.edu (Chen) writes:
>
>I am just still hoping that there is a way for a user to choose whether he wants
>VUE or not. If he doesn't want VUE,  he can just bypass VUE and if he doesn't
>care, he can still run vuewm as the first choice. (hopefully w/o touching
>any system file, is it possible? )
>


One of the things that VUE does when you log in is start a shell to
interpret the users .vueprofile file.  If you exec some command at
the end of this file, you over-write the shell and it never gets to run
VUE at all.

Here is an example:

#!/bin/csh
mwm &
xclock -geo 100x100-0+0 &
xmodmap -e "keycode 15 = Escape"
setenv system `hostname`
if ( "${system}:0" == $DISPLAY ) then
	exec xterm -title console -name console -C -ls 
else
	exec xterm -ls -name login -title login
endif

This example starts mwm and xclock, fixes the keyboard so the key labeled
"Reset Break" is the escape key, then execs an xterm to be my main
login session.  I log out by exiting the shell in the window named "console"
(or the window named "login" if I am on an X terminal).

There should be a nicer way to bypass VUE, but as with most "user-friendly"
systems, it is only user friendly if you want to do what IT wants you to do.

Mark S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: klimmek@hummel.mw.uni-kl.de (Axel Klimmek)
Subject: Re: emacs/EDT and HP keypad
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:08:27 GMT

In article <aZL7RB2w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, rogerg@bluemoon.rn.com (Roger Grywalski) writes:
|> I'm tring to get emacs to emulate EDT on my HP9000/370 using the
|> "edt-emuation-on" function but my keypad keys do not work.  I'm running
|> emacs from an hpterm.  Any help would be appreciated...
|> 
|>  This is from
|>      rogerg@bluemoon.rn.com
|> who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet

I use a a xterm with the following  .Xdefaults for my HP9000/720:

XTerm*VT100.Translations:     #override \
        <Key>KP_0:         string("^[Op") \n\
        <Key>KP_1:         string("^[Oq") \n\
        <Key>KP_2:         string("^[Or") \n\
        <Key>KP_3:         string("^[Os") \n\
        <Key>KP_4:         string("^[Ot") \n\
        <Key>KP_5:         string("^[Ou") \n\
        <Key>KP_6:         string("^[Ov") \n\
        <Key>KP_7:         string("^[Ow") \n\
        <Key>KP_8:         string("^[Ox") \n\
        <Key>KP_9:         string("^[Oy") \n\
        <Key>KP_Decimal:   string("^[On") \n\
        <Key>KP_Multiply:  string("^[OP") \n\
        <Key>KP_Divide:    string("^[OQ") \n\
        <Key>KP_Add:       string("^[OR") \n\
        <Key>KP_Subtract:  string("^[OS") \n\
        <Key>KP_Enter:     string("^[Om") \n\
        <Key>KP_Tab:       string("^[OM") \n\
        <Key>KP_Separator: string("^[Ol") \n\
         Meta<KeyPress>: insert-seven-bit()

^[  is  the  escape character !


Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: simon@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (simon shields)
Subject: pipes ?
Keywords: pipe example programming
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:15:39 GMT


Hi I'm running on a HP-UX giaec A.08.07 A 9000/720 

I was wondering if any programming types could help to explain what
how and why about this example pipe program given in man pipe. 


#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
pid_t pid;
int pipefd[2];

main()
{
	/*  Assumes file descriptor 0 and 1 are open  */
	pipe (pipefd);

	if ((pid = fork()) == (pid_t)0) {
		fprintf(stderr,"pid=0\n");
		close(1);                      /* close stdout (not sure why ?)*/
		dup (pipefd[1]);            /* why do this ? */
		close (pipefd[0]);          /* why do this ? */
		execlp ("ls", "ls", (char *)0);
		/* execlp overwrites the program so how does this program sort
		(see below ?) */
	}
	else if (pid > (pid_t)0) {
		fprintf(stderr,"pid>0\n");
		close(0);                      /* close stdin  */
		dup (pipefd[0]);
		close (pipefd[1]);
		execlp ("sort", "sort", (char *)0);
	}
}


When run it produces a sorted ls, but I don't know how. Can anyone
help me understand ?

Any thoughts sincerely appreciated.

Simon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: raw ethernet device driver
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:29:49 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

Consult the LLA (Link Level Access) Programmer's Guide, p/n 98194-60524.  You
can use LLA to access OSI layer 2, i.e. direct control of ethernet packets.
-- 
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District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
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