From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Locarno's actions (spoiler 1st duty)
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-636-2026) - 24 hrs
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:02:59 GMT



In article <1992Apr10.092630.1@kscdl1.ksc.nasa.gov> lockharts@kscdl3.ksc.nasa.gov writes:
>

>>>In article <1992Apr5.142206.3281@cs.mcgill.ca> doctor@cs.mcgill.ca 
(Howard PICAIZEN) writes:

>>>Spoilers for First Duty...
>
>>>
>>>To all those claiming that Mr. Locarno is an asshole for what he
>>Amos Yung yung@r-node.gts.org writes:
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>>So, lets say, if I and a bunch of drunk friends ran you over in the middle
>>of nowhere, it would be alright for us not to step forward since you are
>>already dead?
>>
>>You, sir, are a very forgiving person.
>
>This analogy is a totally different thing.  Let's say that you and a bunch of
>drunk friends decide to do something really stupid and one of your group dies.
>(i.e., no innocent non-participant dies)  Like all ideas, it seemed like a
>good one at the time.  Then, if your group subsequently decides not to spill
>your guts like a cheap abortion, what's the harm?  Your friend that died knew
>what the risks were going in.  Besides, its not like Locarno, et al, LIED.  All
>

Had Picard told the admiral the truth, Locarno *will* lie. He said so        
himself. Besides, the *intention* of lying and misleading is the same.
Punishment (in our society) punishes the action, not the intention, but
judgement (as what we are doing now) should include intention.
 
As for your scenerio, I don't see much difference whether the victim was
innocent or not. A dead man, innocent or not, will stay dead. No punishment
will change that fact. Should the responsible parties claim the 
responsibility and recieve the corresponding consequence? I say yes, for
no other reason that maintaing law and order. You seem to be implying
a calculation of net worth: What will be more profitable: the offendant
be set free or stay in jail? This is not my idea of justice.


>I agree...getting your friends busted for the death of Josh, yea, ruining your
>career (and that's what would happen) for an error in judgement (albeit a
>serious one) is not going to help.  Wesley is a whining little drone without
>an ounce of loyalty.  (I know, I know.  You're going to say that people who
>make serious errors in judgement don't belong in Starfleet, let alone in 
>command, but these are *kids* for God's sake.  I doubt they'll *ever* make a
>dumb mistake like that again.)
>
Actually, no. Wesely and StarFleet doesn't matter that much to me because
they are only part of a TV show. It is the attitude of "what good will 
that do?" that I found uncomfortable.


So are mine.

>But that's just my opinion.
>
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