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From: dharam@wpi.WPI.EDU (Dharmendra Khanolkar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Abuse of Usenet Privileges
Date: 16 Oct 1992 20:12:11 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct16.170953.4352@athena.cs.uga.edu> 
venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!) writes:

>   You write about sreehari nimmala sending  personal mail ,well I have
>   appended a copy of his mail to me and have posted it on the net too
>   what is your suggestion about it  ?.

>   Message 4/58  From Sreehari Nimmala                    Oct 7 '92 at 9:52 am -240

>   Return-Path: chemsn@unix.cc.emory.edu
>   Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 09:52:09 -0400
>   To: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!)
>   Subject: Re: Back from India

>   You mother-fucker. Who the fuck you are to call me names,
>   you Son of a Wh***? Basterd, if I happen to meet you in
>   person, take from me that that would be the end of you tamil
>   brahmin fucker. You IDIOT.

>   I want to take the matter up with his system's administrator
>   bye
>   venugopalan


Seems like that morAn has sent the same copy to all of us. HE played safe.
If we take up the matter to his system administrator then he will get off
the charges, on the grounds of being insane.

But my question was still not answered :

>>Why do all desi 'babes' (NOT..!! ) here feel they are so important when they
>>come to the States ?

-- 
Here it comes......

--dhamu
From: U15297@uicvm.uic.edu (Shyamala Parameswaran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: In article 12815@noose.ecn.purdue.edu, gayathri@ec.ecn.purdue.edu
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:23:46 GMT
 <1992Oct14.153150.8483@menudo.uh.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Venkat, that was hilarious.

Btw, Do read R D Laing's Do You Love Me? and Knots - rip-roaring
stuff there about why people divorce, how they miscommunicate
etc. Laing was a psychiatrist with a terrific sense of humor.

I'll see if I can post a sample.

Shyamala
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Abuse of Usenet Privileges
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:49:27 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, U15297@uicvm.uic.edu (Shyamala Parameswaran) said:
:- 
:- 
:-    with posts from people like you!!! luckily it will all expire
:-    pretty soon! and if you continue to make comments like this, so
:-    will you!!!!
:- 
:-    have a nice day tomorrow. the rest of your life is going to be
:-    pretty tough!
:- 
:- I have been suitably advised by one administrator and another
:- consultant that on the basis of the above lines alone, I could
:- file charges.

	haven't you forgotten to include one section of my post? the one
	that quoted your article which said "WPI is obviously
	infested"?? can't you make out a return flame when you see one?
	anyway, you are welcome to follow whatever advice you get from
	anyone. this thing is getting ridiculously out of hand!

:- Of course, it depends entirely on how you choose to respond next.

	well here's my response. its your problem if you can't separate
	threats to you (or harassment or whatever you choose to call it)
	from flames on newsgroups. i do not have to prove any intent,
	but if it would make you feel better, i will assure you that i
	have neither the time nor the inclination to mean anything but
	humour in the above reply of mine (as quoted by you). however,
	you are welcome to not take my word on the matter (which should
	have been obvious anyway) and to go ahead and take whatever
	action you deem necessary.

:- News.admin groups are aware of your being a sysadmin.

	i have no idea what the above statement means. are you referring
	to the newsgroup "news.admin"? what difference does their
	knowing anything make? also, to be accurate, i am a teaching
	assistant, and not a sysadmin, whatever relevance that may have
	to this.

	i know you haven't asked me, but i strongly suggest you get a
	sense of humour!!!

	peace,

	- ravi


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sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one : Ravi Narayan - ravi@cs.wpi.edu
          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: 900707h@dragon.acadiau.ca (Swarajsingh Horree)
Subject: Lyrics of song 'Teri umeed tera intezar' from 'Deewana'
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:49:05 GMT

 To all lovers of Hindi film songs,
  Dear folks,
       Here is a great song, it's from 'Deewana'.
       Singers are Kumar Shanu & Sadhna Sargam.
	Enjoy it !!
***********************************************************************

 Teri umeed tera intezar karte hein
 Ae sanam hum to sirfh tumse pyar karte hein
 Janeman hum bhi tum pe jaan nishaar karte hein
 Ae sanam hum to sirfh tumse pyar karte hein

 Khwab ankhon mein ab nahin aate
 Ab to palkon mein tum samaye ho
 Har ghari saath saath rahte ho
 Dil ke ghar mein duniya bashaye ho

 Teri har baat pe hum aitbaar karte hein
 Ae sanam hum to sirfh tumse pyar karte hein

 Hum ko jiski thi woh talash ho tum
 Khusboo sanson ki dil ki pyaas ho tum
 Tere aashiq tere deewane hein
 Saari duniya se hum begaane hein
 Jaan hum pyar tumhein beshoomar karte hein
 Ae sanam hum to sirfh tumse pyar karte hein

 Teri umeed tera intezar karte hein
 Janeman hum bhi tum pe jaan nishaar karte hein
 Ae sanam hum to sirfh tumse pyar karte hein


***************************************************************
With compliments,
  From Swaraj.
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Your average Crazee Dazee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: I am here(arun kumar a.t.)
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:02:04 GMT
Reply-To: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In article <61107@mimsy.umd.edu>, arun@umiacs.umd.edu writes:
|> 
|>  hey guys , I am arun kumar from osmania univ, hyderabad, india.
|> passed out in 1987,b.e. (ece). Posting this just to find out if any
|> old friends around?

	oh hell!!! you missed them by less than a second. they all just
	left to india, for good, to be with you!

	aah... the irony of it all...

	peace,

	- ravi

-- 
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.sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one : Ravi Narayan - ravi@cs.wpi.edu
          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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From: rnatesan@HP-UX (Ramke Natesan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR RAMAKUMAR KOSURU .. ATHENS.. OH
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:29:44 GMT

I am looking for Mr. RAMAKUMAR KOSURU, doing Phd some where in U.S.A.  Also,
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
he did his MS in Ohio University, Athens, OH.  If anyone has information

about him, please tell him I am looking for him OR respond to my post.

thanks in advance.

Ramke Natesan.
San Jose, CA.
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Looking for place to stay in DC [3-5 days]
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:54:47 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, alhaque@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Abul Lais M S Haque) said:
:- >
:- >	i hear the sheraton provides excellent service and great food.
:- >	hope you have a great time.
:- >
:- 		Yes, it would be of further help if you provide with
:- 		your complete address so that the bill could be sent
:- 		properly.

	i doubt if sheraton will accept my full address (even if i were
	to "provide with it") in lieu of payment for the bill.

	peace,

	- ravi


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From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ** SHERO-SHAYARI **
Date: 7 Oct 1992 21:40:55 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

In article <7OCT92.19283738@skyfox.usask.ca> srivastava@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
>Shero-shayari chahne waalo ko mera Aadaab !!!

	Aap pesh keejiye, hum abhi peshaab kar ke aate hai!!

>Shaam udaas hai, Raat bhi udaas hoogi
>Subah shabnam pe, meri laash hoogi
>mujhe dafnane waale, lejana unke paas
>jinki tasveer, mere seene ke paas hoogi

	Waah waah, kya khoob. Isee baat per ek aur sher main pesh karta hoon...

	Mera janaazaa jo nikalaa, 
	    Saara jahaan saath chalaa,
	Lekin woh nahin chali, 
	    Jiske liye mera janaazaa nikala.

	Prem!
================================================================================
====    prem@prem.lbl.gov       ====  When in Rome, do as the Romans do.    ====
=== Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory ===  When in Bangkok, PARTYYYYY !!!!!!!    ====
================================================================================
From: venu@cirrus.com (Venu Nayar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,news.admin,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Abuse of Usenet Privileges
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:34:22 GMT
Followup-To: news.admin,misc.legal
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.

In <92289.114116U15297@uicvm.uic.edu> U15297@uicvm.uic.edu (Shyamala
Parameswaran) writes in response to Ravi Narayan's post, which ghas been
deleted: 

>I have been suitably advised by one administrator and another
>consultant that on the basis of the above lines alone, I could
>file charges. Of course, it depends entirely on how you choose
>to respond next.

>News.admin groups are aware of your being a sysadmin.


On the contrary, the only possible retaliation to posts (or follow-ups to
posts) on Usenet is to write to the system administrator of the poster's
system. I don't think there is any legal recourse which you can follow.
-- 
Venu Nayar			|		Internet: venu@cirrus.com
Cirrus Logic Inc.		|		(510)-226-2100 X3737 
Do not try to solve all life's problems at once -- learn to dread each
day as it comes.
From: sirdesh@i32s3.ira.uka.de (Sam Sirdesh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize & IITs
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:07:27 GMT
Reply-To: sirdesh@i32s3.ira.uka.de (Sam Sirdesh)
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: i32s3.ira.uka.de

Dear Mihir,

Interesting what you say about remittances. I agree that such
remittances for studying in India and then working overseas should be
made but this should be done in such a way that this talent is not then
discouraged to return to India (an analogy in Europe is the reluctance
of young Frenchmen to return to work in France before a certain age, in
order to avoid military service - a loss for the french economy rather
than a benefit to the French national security) because of financial
burdens to the state.

In any case, I find that we as Indians talk too much about using force
to make people do things, rather than creating incentives for people.
Let people go overseas and work. However, give them concrete incentives
to come back: these people must be secure that India needs them and is
prepared to help them to settle back there. It's largely a question of
attitude and confidence in the system: will I get help or hindrance when
I am back there? Possible ways to improve the situation are perhaps:
- to talk with the chambers of commerce in relevant cities in India:
what can be done?
- I'm grateful for any other ideas ...

Sam Sirdeshpande
From: guppychk@sumax.seattleu.edu (Archana Bhat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IDS Fund-Raiser
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:12:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.5420
Distribution: usa
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

Hi Netters,

I am posting this for a friend of mine.
**************************************************************
The University of Illinois Indian Student Association in collaboration
with Network of Indian Professionals are sponsoring a dance marathon to
raise money for the 

Indian Development Service (IDS).

IDS is a nationwide organization which funds grassroots social services in
India.

This event is most likely going to be held sometime in March of next year.

If you would like more information on this event or if you are interested
in hosting a dance or any other event as a fund-raiser for IDS in your
respective Universities or communities, please call

Ramesh Subramani at (312) 587-7509 for more information.

His address is: Northwest University Abbot Hall
		710 N. Lakeshore Dr., #1224
		Chicago, IL  60611
***********************************************************************

Please contact Ramesh directly, this the only information I have on this
program.

Thanks,
Archana
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: Re: MORE ABOUT INDIA / INDIAN WOMEN ARE TREATED FAR BETTER THAN HERE.
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:36:15 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct7.154649.23858@tamsun.tamu.edu>, peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct7.144229.3469@meaddata.com> udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:
|> <lots of stuff deleted>
|> 
|> India has a long tradition of women in politics.  A woman in politics
|> commands as much or more respect as does a man.  There have been many
|> women MLAs in all the states and women governors are common.  This
|> type of participation and acceptance was there even before India gained
|> Independence.  And in the case of Mrs. Indira Gandhi, she had an active
|> role in politics much before her father's death.  Also, notice that she
|> did not become the prime minister immediatly after Nehru's death, but 
|> much later.  This shows that she had inborn qualities that shaped her
|> career without denying the fact that it helped in no small way that she
|> was Nehru's daughter.
|> <lots of stuff deleted>

She was groomed for that role as a kid. Being the only child, she accompanied
her father, wherever he went. Her interest in politics was cultivated by her
father. She got to see more of the world as a pre-teen kid and the world of
politics and could have been fascinated by it. 

Now, I bet the situation would have been different had there been another 
sibling, and that too if it was a boy.

I know lots of other cases, too, where there is a family business, and no male
child to pass it down. Parents are forced to groom their daughters. And, the
fact that most of these females do just great, when given the opportunity, just
speaks volumes for their gender.

You mention "inborn qualities", I think it has more to do with the upbringing 
and opportunities presented to an individual. Ever seen the movie "trading
places". I think, I belive in that concept. Maybe a difference in opinion.

|> >not even come up with a suitable replacement. The fact that they tried to drag
|> >the previous prime-minister' widow and daughter into, it, too is evidence to
|> >this. Maybe you could compare the number of women in politics, over here, to
|> >those in India. Maybe you could come up with something more realistic.
|> 
|> May be ....  
|> 
|> Suresh

-- 
Sylvia D. D'Cruz
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: wanted:Indian female for penpal
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:03:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

(Ranger) said:

>Looking for an Indian female to be penpals with


why don't you meet my pal? she has a lot of penpals. her name is
srikala and her login name is sri@gingko.wpi.edu

suresh
From: auro@mri.com (Aurobindo Tripathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Adding child on mother's passport; any hazards?
Keywords: passport child
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:21:44 GMT
Organization: Microtec Research Inc., Santa Clara, CA

We are planniing a trip to India in December with our 11 month old baby 
and the question on my mind is:

Should we include the baby on his mother's passport or make a seperate 
American passport for the baby (and apply for Visa)?

The former is cheaper and the latter, more expensive. 

What documents should we take with us if we choose to go with former scheme?
Is it  worth the extra hassle with immigration. My wife and I are both gree crds holders.


Any advice or personal experiences would be helpful.

Thanks

repond to auro@mri.com
From: sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Almighty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ultrasonic transducer
Date: 10 Oct 1992 16:10:32 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Hello:

	I am presently using an INSTRUMENT grade transducer from 
POLAROID Corp. to measure the distance between the transducer
and the target area.  Can anyone suggest some other companies from
where I can get these transducers and hopefully better ones too.
Thanks

					sanjay
					sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: elango@sol.cis.udel.edu (Chitra Elango)
Subject: Information about Travel Agent
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:07:26 GMT

I am going to India this December by Air France. Has anyone had a bad experience with TRAVEL TIPS, New York? Please let me know.

internet: elango@cis.udel.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: usman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Usman Hameed)
Subject: Re: Asian models?
Keywords: modelling agencies and advertising
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: world,na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 00:08:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.162738.10901@crc.ac.uk> fkhurshi@crc.ac.uk (Ms F. Khurshid) writes:

>Well WE KNOW there are a lot of beautiful, exquisite asian women out there

Modelling has to do with more than just a beautiful face.  They look
for tall, slender and well-toned bodies.  Unfortunately the "muraghghan"
food we eat, plus the tropical genes, preempt any such fortuituous
coming together of flesh and bone.


>the latest fashionable 'shalwar kameez'. Haven't they been stereotyped in 
>the kind of modelling they do?  I've never seen a 'strong' image come across 
>by the advertisers of any Asians (male or female) .....could it be a case of 
>white skin sells and black doesnt? 

Madison Avenue is now moving away from the strictly Nordic beauty
icon, as evidenced in the arrival of Naomi Campbell, Yasmeen Ghauri,
Iman and Yasmeen LeBon.  However, all these models present a slight 
interjection of non-European flavor, rather than projecting pure 
ethnic features.  After all, the products they sell will be to 
primarily caucasian audiences, so the corporations dictate the 
models.  Madison Avenue just goes with the money. 



>How does it compare to how they are portrayed in advertising in Asian countries
>themselves?

There has been a trend in Pakistan over the past decade to cast
caucasian models in print and TV ads for clothing, tobacco, food items
and skin bleaching creams.  Our corporations are basically saying
that if you want to be sophisticated you must be fair-skinned, but
failing that you can buy the same status by buying our product.

Usman



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Natiowide Demo for Bosnia,Fri Oct16
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:24:40 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <dogar.718919439@opal4> dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
>bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar) writes:
>>Why isn't it sufficient to say that the genocide of BOSNIANS
>>must be stopped?
>>Why MUST the religions of the Bosninans be mentioned when you
>>are implying that the genocide is across the religious
>>boundaries.
>
>Because, like the genocide in Kashmir, the people are being
>slaughtered BECAUSE they are Muslims.
>
>-hd

Its interesting that you compare Kashmir with Bosnia. In Kashmir
the same attitude of knowing a person by his faith is resulting 
in the "ethnic cleansing" of Hindus from Kashmir. Terrorists,
rightly or wrongly, justifying their actions in the name of the
fundamentals of Islam are throwing out the Hindus from the valley to 
convert it into a Darul-Islam. 

And hypocrites are crying that ethnic cleansing is being carried 
out in Bosnia while supporting the similar thing being done in Kashmir
in the name of Islam.

In my view, the Yugoslav imbroglio is more of an ethnic conflict
pitting Serbs against all other ethnic groups, Muslim Bosnians being
only one such group. What Serbs are doing in Bosnia is inhuman and 
abhorable and must be stopped. But to color the
conflict purely in terms of Muslim-Christian terms is another big mistake
that Muslims are making. In the long term, by giving the conflict a 
religious colour, they are deepening the Muslim-Christian division in
Europe. Europe being a majority Christian region, they are going to be
at a loss for long time to come. 

The common ground for both the conflicts, it turns out, is that Islam
wants political power and is not satisfied being a erligion alone. That's
why the Hindus are being "cleansed" out of Kashmir, and Bosnia is being
projected as a conflict between the ummah and the Kafirs.


---raj



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: asubbiah@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anand Subbiah)
Subject: Re: In article 12815@noose.ecn.purdue.edu, gayathri@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Gayathri Krishnamurthy) writes:
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:33:20 GMT

In article <1667@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            ) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.194939.28465@hubcap.clemson.edu>, svangav@eng.clemson.edu (sreedhar vangavolu) writes:
>> >
>> 	You forgot to add something else. Our heroine LOVES that situation
>> 	and encorages (in most cases) our hero to do that. 
>> 
> Well, you forgot to add something else. Haven't you realised that the directors, producers and distributors of such films are men ? 
>And they are just glamourizing their fantasies and the Indian male junta decides that's what they want?? 
>You are saying that a women(the heroine)  means 'Yes' even when she says 'No'.
> 
>Arathi

all I know is that when a woman says "you are going too far", what she
means is "you are getting too close" (culled from a Readers Digest of
many, many years ago)
From: arun@umiacs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: I am here(arun kumar a.t.)
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:05:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indians
Subject: I am here(A.T.Arun Kumar)
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
Keywords: 

 hey guys , I am arun kumar from osmania univ, hyderabad, india.
passed out in 1987,b.e. (ece). Posting this just to find out if any
old friends around?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: A Wimbledon Doubt (Re: More about India)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:22:40 GMT

(Devendra Atnoor) writes:
>Consider this:
>	The women's champion had to play for only 7 hours during the
>whole turnament. Where as Edburg had to play 3 five setters in the last
>three rounds (totaling about 12 hours of tennis.)
>	Now tell me what is fair.
>

IMHO, how hard you work should not be the determinant of the payout.
If that is so, then the payout must be variable and be bound onlly
after the match is over, taking into account the number of hours
spent. An idea interesting enough to be a post-dinner topic of
discussion, but not with enough validity.

All the entities participating in the grand slam process -
players, organizers, audience and the networks - are all commercially
oriented, notwithstanding our romantic vision for the game. In my
opinion, the revenue potential should be an important determinant
for fixing payout levels, irrespective of the gender and age.

Satya Prabhakar