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From: math1rb@elroy.uh.edu (92F07486)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: What makes a giid guitarist?
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:24:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: elroy.10NOV199209245199
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

My wife and I were discussing what makes a "good" guitarist...
I said I thought it was someone who could hear a song and instantly
replay it, but she pointed out that is a "natural" sort of gift and
didn't think that could be necessarily learned. She gave the example of
my younger brother who after only playing for a few months, can pick out
the notes and melodies to a lot of differnent songs, although he doesn't
have the proficiency to play them at full speed or without being sloppy.
 She said a good guitarist would be someone who could look at some sheet
music and play the song without previously hearing it before. Well I
can sort of read music but I really need to practice. After I graduate in
December I'll have more time, and we debated whether I should get lessons
as sort of a regimented program, so I have to learn. But on the other hand
I'm pretty disciplined, and don't have a lot of money, so I figure I could do
it on my own.
 Any thoughts, any similiar expweriences? Later,
						Dave
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From: ml4477@sarah.albany.edu (   Sting   )
Subject: Re: Why Do These Redundant Groups Exist?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:48:27 GMT

In article <19109@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie) writes:
>Subject says it. There's an alt.guitar and alt.guitar.tab. Why these?
>
	Many schools and places of bussiness don't receive the alt.  groups
for whatever administrative reasons.  So this way we all get info in areas we
are interested.

>Richard

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From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (???)
Subject: Post #1. . .Hurray!!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:53:34 GMT


So what's this newsgroup about?

How is it different than alt.guitar?



	-juggle-
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From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: Club Dates: Russell Malone (Jazz Guitar)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:39:25 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Dates: Russell Malone
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Keywords: guitar show concert


Jazz Guitarist _Russell Malone_ will be playing the following dates:

1. Boston, Nov 16, Schuler's (sp ?)

2. Costa Mesa, California, Nov 21, (location ?), 
    ** with Branford Marsalis **

3. Los Angeles, Nov 24, Lenaria

4. Chicago, Dec 10, Jazz Oasis

5. New York, Dec 14, The Bluenote


He will have several exciting musicians from Atlanta
with him (George Grier, bass; Gary Motley, piano;  ????, drums).

------------------------------------


WJM


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Subject: Re: Kramer Guitar Parts... Where can I find the,?!
Reply-To: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs CO
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:55:33 GMT


Stewart-MacDonald's Guitar Shop Supply stocks replacement parts for Floyd 
Rose style tremelos.

Give them a call at 800-848-2273, very nice people to deal with.  They do
have a $30 minimum order though, but they have plenty of useful things to
fill out the purchase.

Greg
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker)
Subject: For Sale: PRS Standard & Fender Tele
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:38:58 GMT


The PRS Standard is a Burgundy solid mahogony (no maple top)
with PAF style pickups, whammy bar, locking keys, "set in"
neck, moon inlays. $650 plus shipping/handling


American Standard Tele with Joe Barden pickups (2 * $125.00).
really nice fast flat neck. (Essentially a Danny Gatton model)
Black finish. $350 plus shipping/handling

Both instruments are in great condition although the case
for the tele is not in great shape.

-Jaz

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: Jazz Guitar: Russell Malone
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:32:55 GMT


Has anyone checked out the new release by Jazz
Guitarist Russell Malone on Columbia?

What do you think?

-------------------------------------------
The CD is _Russell Malone_ (Columbia CK 52825)

This is a debut recording for Malone. It contains
a wide range of material from tunes in the Wes Montgomery
vein, Blues, and Solo Classical Guitar (Flowers For Emmet Till).

The compositions are "obscure" standards and two original tunes.

See the October (September ?) isse of JazzTimes for a brief article on
Russell.


tracks:
-------
 1. Wives And Lovers (David/Bacharach)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 2. Invisible Colors (R. Malone)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 3. When I Take My Sugar To Tea (Fain/Norman/Kahal)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 4. It's The Talk of The Town (Symes/Neiburg/Livingston)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 5. St. Louis Blues (W.C. Handy)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Milt Hinton

 6. I Don't Know Enough About You (Barbour/Lee)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar/Vocals
   Harry Connick, Jr.: piano

 7. Close Your Eyes (Petkere)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 8. London By Night (Coates)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 9. I Can't Believe That You're In Love With Me (McHugh)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Harry Connick, Jr.: piano

 10. Moonlight Serenade (Parish/Miller)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 11. Flowers For Emmett Till (R. Malone)
   Russell Malone: Classical Guitar

 12. Precious Lord (T. Dorsey)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums
------------------------------------------------





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From: lee@Gwinnett.COM (Lee Reese)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: First Post?
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:36:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: Gwinnett.1992Nov12.023608.16675
Organization: Gwinnett Computer Services, Atlanta(Duluth), GA

>
>Here's a thread to start: What's your favorite single-coil pickup?

I have a Seymour Duncan Alnico II pro in my Strat.  It is really an  
excellent pickup, with more output than regular Strat pickups.  The tone
is also thicker compared with the stock pickup.


Lee
lee@gwinnett.com
From: denio@seismo.CSS.GOV (Dennis O'Neill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Heritage Prodigy????
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:32:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Institute for Obfuscatorial Dynamics

In article <1992Nov12.160517.20829@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden) writes:
> ... Heritage Prodigy arch top ...  Does anyone out there know anything
> about these guitars?  Also, it looks kind of difficult to make changes
> to electronics on archtops.  I figure it is best to have it done by a
> techie but I would like to know if anyone has had any experience making
> electronic modifications, ie new pickups and such, to an archtop.

The Heritage guitars I've seen have all been first-rate.  

As far as electronics are concerned, there are differences in fully-
hollow archtops and semi-hollow (ES-335-style) archtops.  Fully-
hollow archtops are a breeze to work on, there's plenty of room to
move the pieces around.  Semi-hollowbodies are difficult to work
on, particularly if you wish to remove the pots, switches, and jack.
(Actually, removing these things is relatively easy, it's getting them
back in that's nasty! But it can be done if you're patient.)
I've done three; on one of them I replaced everything and separated 
the coils on the pickups so that I could have single-coil pickups
at will.

One thing you might consider if the pickups you want to get
use the same pots &c as the pickups that are in there now:
cut each pickup cable, put a shielded mini-phone jack on one end
and a plug on the other, then switch pickups in and out at will.
Some people will think this is a bad idea, and in some ways it is,
but it sure is convenient.
-- 
Dennis O'Neill (denio@seismo.css.gov)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Subject: Favorite Pickups (was Re: First Post?)
Organization: NIKHEFK
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:04:44 GMT

srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson) writes:

>Here's a thread to start: What's your favorite single-coil pickup?
>I've got a Jap Strat that's reall noisy. I've played the Strat Pluses that
>have FenderLace Sensors, and they're much quieter. I put a FenderLace in
>my Strat, but it's still pretty noisy. Anyone know how to quiet this 
>baby?

On favorites - the single coil on a real stratocaster.  Not too
noisy at least not for me!  I have heard from many that the
best solution for Jap Strat pickups' problems is to buy another
set of pickups ...  My favorite single coil on a real Strat is
the neck one!

The Fender Laces are nice if you like that sound, but they are
a bit too smooth for me.  I should mention that the American
Standard Stratocaster won "Best Clean Tone" Honors in the recent
"19 Guitars Under $750" rating in Guitar Player magazine.
A good article.

					JT
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: brenckle@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (BRENCKLE,NICHOLAS)
Subject: Earth Buzz ground
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Ground, Buzzing, strings
Organization: Southern Connecticut State University - Computer Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:43:00 GMT


 I have the same problem on my guitar at home. The problem increases or
decreases depending on the outlet I use. Basicaly its a grounding problem.
Definatly get the best cord you can find and make sure you are in a properly
grounded outlet. (Not just a 3 prong outlet retrofitted into an old 2 wire
house. Nearly killed myself that way, but made some excellent music..)



Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: knapik@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Knapik)
Subject: Flat tops vs Arch tops 
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:57:29 GMT

Never having had the opportunity to play an early model arch top acoustic,
I was wondering what their strong points were relative to flat top 
acoustics in the same class or by the same manufacture.

I am interested in trying one out, say the L-5 or New Yorker, but with them 
being a little bit hard to find, I was wondering if I should spend the time
to find one, or just  settle for another flat top.  

I'm mainly interested in them for acoustic jazz stuff.

Any advice ?


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: butterwo@cs.tulane.edu (Blake Butterworth)
Subject: buzzing noises
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-5687]: sinbad
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:47:57 GMT


    I already posted this question to alt.guitar, but since some of you may
not have had the chance to see it, I'll ask again.  Every time I plug my
guitar into my amp, I can hear a faint buzzing noise in the background.  It
occurs only while I am -not- touching something metal on the guitar like the
strings or bridge.  I'm pretty sure that the problem is with the guitar.  If
someone knows what my problem is or how to fix it, could you email me?
Thanks

Blake
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: First Post?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:16:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.213959.23835@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.182001.2208@rhrk.uni-kl.de> CRJ14530@acuvax.acu.edu (Judd Christopher R.) writes:
>>Is this group about people that are making guitars?  if so, I have some
>>questions and coments...   If not, then have a fun day!.
>
>    No; it's a sub-group of rec.music.makers devoted to musicians who play
>guitar (I *hope* my memory's still OK ;-) )

Why not both? AFter all, the net's a little faster and quite possibly
cheaper for users than Guitar Player (R, C, TM, or whatever)...

>
>
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From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: What makes a good guitarist?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:36:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

The problem with defining "good guitarist" is that it changes.  If I'm
in a slick top 40 bar band and a trash-master comes along, s/he's not going
to get past the first two bars of "Stand By Me" before it's obvious that
s/he's not "good" for that situation.  And if the Edge-worshiping guitarist
from my alternative band show up to audition for the local metal group
(100s here in San Diego, ratio metal/non is about 10/1) s/he's not going to
get far either.

The ultimate "good guitarist" could play all these situations well, but
a guitarist can be good in just one.

BUT...s/he could show up drunk (or not at all) and still be a good guitarist.
I always get into discussions (especially about drummers) about how someone
can be phenomenal at their instrument, and be a terrible musician.  Consider:

s/he can play great         but         equipment always in pawn
s/he kicks ass              but         often shows up late or never
s/he's fast and subtle      but         rarely sober enough to show it

and on and on.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and a good guitarist....sometimes)
From: SRJ102@psuvm.psu.edu (Scott Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Korean tele question...
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:10:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92316.221053SRJ102
Organization: Penn State University


    Can anyone tell me whether Squier telecasters are worth anything?

   I have the chance  (assuming it's not gone already) to get one used for $125
.
      If it sucks, I don't want it, but it sounds like a deal to me.
   What's the difference between them and Mexican or American ones?  Are the
     necks lumpy or are they made of cardboard stock or what?

    I'd appreciate advice...
                                   -Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell)
Subject: Re: What makes a giid guitarist?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:25:10 GMT

In article <10NOV199209245199@elroy.uh.edu>, math1rb@elroy.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
|> My wife and I were discussing what makes a "good" guitarist...
|> I said I thought it was someone who could hear a song and instantly
|> replay it, but she pointed out that is a "natural" sort of gift and
|> didn't think that could be necessarily learned. She gave the example of
|> my younger brother who after only playing for a few months, can pick out
|> the notes and melodies to a lot of differnent songs, although he doesn't
|> have the proficiency to play them at full speed or without being sloppy.

    Although I'm not necessarily a "good" guitarist, I think the technical
    aspects, such as finger placement and timing, have alot to do with how well
    someone plays. Take a look at EVH or SRV's "The Sky Is Crying" video and
    you'll get a picture of excellent techniques.

|>  She said a good guitarist would be someone who could look at some sheet
|> music and play the song without previously hearing it before. Well I
|> can sort of read music but I really need to practice. After I graduate in
|> December I'll have more time, and we debated whether I should get lessons
|> as sort of a regimented program, so I have to learn. But on the other hand
|> I'm pretty disciplined, and don't have a lot of money, so I figure I could do
|> it on my own.

    I agree with your wife on this, but, like I said above, that's only part of
    the big picture. I think some people have a much greater skill at playing
    guitar, but have a tough time being musicians by themselves( Steve Via, et al.
    ). I think being a musician is more important. After all, the musical skills
    you have or build on will encompass alot more than just guitar playing.

    If you're really serious about playing, take lessons w/ someone who knows
    what to do. You can learn ALOT by being tought by someone better than you.
    I'm gonna take lessons this winter, to beef up those lame chords... :)

|>  Any thoughts, any similiar expweriences? Later,
|> 						Dave

   Good luck - keep jammin'!
   Scott
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From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitars...
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:32:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.165612.2402@hubcap.clemson.edu>
mrayle@eng.clemson.edu writes: 
> Finding a good guitar for <$300?  Good Luck.  Especially if you are looking
>for a new guitar.
>I have had very good luck through the classified advertisements in my local
>newspaper.  I bought my first, a Yamaha, for about $80 and it still has a 
>wonderful sound.  My second and the one I play the most these days is an
>Aria 12-string that I picked up in mint condition for $160!!
>Take the time to look, there are some great guitars out there for a
>good price. 

Well, actually, I've got a solution for you. It's called a Seagull.

I bought mine about 6 months ago. Solid top. Nice alcohol based finish.
Good, crisp sound that I expect from a steel-stringed acoustic.

For $300, plus tax.

I've not regretted it yet.

--Jim, novice guitarist with a lot of spirit.
From: jkiparsk@reed.edu (Jonathan Kiparsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitars...
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:07:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov12.030705.12800
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Nov11.165612.2402@hubcap.clemson.edu> mrayle@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>
> Finding a good guitar for <$300?  Good Luck.  Especially if you are looking
>for a new guitar.

I bought my acoustic (Epiphone PR-350s) for about $200 new, with case. Since
then, I can't get a sound I like out of any other acoustic, especially for
leads. The trick is, like you say, to look around. I tried about every guitar 
in my range in the three stores in my area and the classifieds, and this one
was it. 
-jon
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: rnakkula@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robin J Nakkula)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitars...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:23:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.091631.9210@netcom.com> figmo@netcom.com (Lynn Gold) writes:
>
>If you buy a used guitar, you'll get a better deal than if you buy a
>new one.  There are bargains to be had where the outside finish is
>less than perfect but the body is intact, such as my Takamine.

One exception to the above: If the buyer is ready to move up to a Martin
guitar, the lifetime warranty for the original purchaser is a big incentive to
buy new.  I got a better buy in my new Martin Shenandoah 12-string than I would
have gotten on the used Martin 12-strings that were 10 and 20 years older.  
(Some cost more and some cost less than the guitar I bought).

>
>Of course, if you're just learning for the first time, you might want
>to consider a Fender, Yamaha, or Epiphone acoustic.
>
>Whatever you do, don't buy the $20.00 guitar from Sears; that was MY
>first guitar (Dad wouldn't let me pay more than $25.00 and INSISTED it
>HAD to be NEW, and I was under age).  Its action was so awful I had to
>play it wearing band-aids.
>
>--Lynn

That's the way I first played my first Sears Silvertone, though I was doing
it because my older cousin said that if I played ever day for a week, I'd
get my callouses.  In order to do so, I needed the junior strips across the
tips <g>.  You mean, it was the _guitar's_ fault?


@@@---Robin Nakkula

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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: First Post?
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 21:39:59 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Nov9.182001.2208@rhrk.uni-kl.de> CRJ14530@acuvax.acu.edu (Judd Christopher R.) writes:
>Is this group about people that are making guitars?  if so, I have some
>questions and coments...   If not, then have a fun day!.

    No; it's a sub-group of rec.music.makers devoted to musicians who play
guitar (I *hope* my memory's still OK ;-) )


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