From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:17:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.184737.2408899@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.005943.555@nysernet.org> astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes:
>>jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>>
>>> ARAFAT JUST BOWED HUMBLY AND HUMPLY FOR ISRAEL, AND RECOGNIZED 
>>> ITS RIGHT TO EXIST.  WHAT AN IGNORANT STATEMENT YOU JUST SAID! ARAFAT IS
>>> LOGICALLY KISSING ISRAEL'S APPROVAL FOR NEGOTIATION.  ARAFAT 
>>> IS STILL WILLING TO KISS iSRAEL'S BEHIND. 
>>
>>Funny how I missed that.  I've heard about him telling some that he
>>said it, and telling others that he hadn't, but I never heard about
>>him actually saying it.
>
>Apparently you don't follow news, have a short  memory, or live in denial.
>A couple of years ago or so, Arafat did so.  The first day the US said
>that his  statements were not clear, the next day he was clearer on
>the issues of recognizing Israel on Occupied Palestine, and on
>renouncing terrorism. And accordingly the US opened dialog with the PLO.
>
>I hope you can do a little more research before throwing such
>senseless statements at us.
>
>jle
>
BULL, BULL, BULL,

Before I post (again) quotes of the beloved PLO terrorist.  jle would you
please tell us why, if Arafat recognizes Israel (which he doesn't) is article
19 still part of the PLO charter?  Would official removing article 19 be a clear
sign that he have atleast "said the words", even if the Arafat is lying scum.
Arafat has "sort of said", then denied that he recognizes Israel.  He gets
BIG headlines when he says he recognizes Israel then quietly backpedals.

>
>	Arafat's support of Saddam Hussein certainly showed the 
>	world their honest intent for peace, all right!
>
>	As for acceptance of Israel's right to exist, let's just
>	peek at what Palestinian and other Arab leaders have said
>	since that momentous day of Dec. 14, 1988.
>
>
>Date: July 25, 1991
>From a Libyan televison interview with Yasser Arafat 7-19-91
>Q: Some people say that the Palestinian revolution has many times changed
>   its strategies and tactics, something which has left its imprint on the
>   Palestinian problem and on the Palestinian Liberation Front.  The
>   [strategies and tactics] have not been clear.  The question is, is the
>   direction of the Palestinian problem clear?  The Palestinian leadership
>   has stopped, or at least this is what has been said in the media, this
>   happened on the way to the dialogue with the United States, the PLO
>   recognized something called "Israel"...
>
>A: No, no, no!  We do not recognize the State of Israel.  We said
>   "recognition" -- when a Palestinian state is established.  It will then
>   decide if to recognize Israel or not.  When it is established, its
>   parliament will convene and decide.
>
>
>December 18 1988: Salah Khalaf (Abu Iyad), Arafat's Number Two
>
>"At first a small state, and with the help of Allah, it will be made
>large, and expand to the east,west,north and south...I am interested in
>the liberation of Palestine step by step."
>
>
>December 21 1988: Sheikh Abd El Hamid Sayekh, speaker of PNC
>
>"We must take and continue to ask for more yet, without offering
>concessions. Nevertheless, we are working to achieve what is possible in
>the present phase, and next we will demand more."
>
>
>Arafat, Jan 2 1989, Quatar News Agency:
>"The land of Palestine is the homeland of the Palestinians, and the
>homeland of the Arab nation, from the ocean to the Gulf.... The PLO
>offers not the peace of the weak, but the peace of Saladin."
>
>
>Jan 3 1989: Muhammed Musawi,2nd Command Leader of PFLP
>"The goal of the PLO is to restore the territories which were included
>within Palestine prior to the establishment of Israel in 1948...The
>Popular Front agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian state in any
>part of the lands which Israel has occupied as a temporary solution."
>
>Jan 23 1989: George Habash, Leader PFLP
>"The establishment of a Palestinian state must not be conditioned upon
>giving up the rest of Palestine. The price for establishing a state must
>not be the recognition of Israel's right to exist."
>
>Jan 23 1989: Abu Iyad
>In response to a request for the removal of article 19 of the PLO
>covenant which calls for the destruction of Israel.
>"We in the PLO do not accept the removal of article 19."
>
>Feb 11 1989: Abu Iyad, "Al-Watan" Kuwait
>"There was no PLO recognition of Israel, neither in the PNC decision in
>Algiers, or in Arafat's address to the UN in Geneva."
>
>April 9 1989: George Habash.
>"The decisions of the PNC did not mention in any manner whatsoever the
>recognition of Israel, and did not mention in any manner whatsoever the
>recognition of Israel's right to exist. We did not recognize Israel."
>
>
>May 21 1989: Nayef Hawatmeh, Leader DFLP (PLO 3rd largest faction)
>"We have recently launched a series of attacks against Israel and will
>launch more. Such attacks are a sacred right for our people"
>
>
>April 6 1990: Arafat talking to Fatah- a PLO faction.
>
>"Open fire upon the new Jewish imigrants - be they from the Soviet
>Union, Ethiopia or anywhere else......It makes no difference if they
>live in Jaffa (Tel Aviv) or Jericho. I give you explicit instructions to
>open fire. I give you my instructions to open fire against these
>imigrants. I will jail whoever refuses to do this. My words are not just
>a threat, they are the reality. From today on, I will incarcerate
>whoever refuses to obey my instructions."
>
>"Whoever thinks of stopping the Intifada before it achieves its goals I
>will give ten bullets in the chest."
>
>-- 
>Ron Evans (revans@math.ucsd.edu)


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