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From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Re: Little birdie minds
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 12:20:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.163537.5867@leland.Stanford.EDU> cjb@vega.stanford.edu writes:
->
->Incidentally, she also (as some earlier posters described) loves this  
->early morning game of climbing into bed with us, running down under the  
->sheets and attacking wiggling fingers or toes.  She will stand on a hand  
->and then, if you wiggle a finger, attempt to keep it still by pushing down  
->on it, pressing it back into line like the quiet and obedient finger it  
->should be. She also has an anatomist's knowldege of just where to nip and  
->nibble so as to get the greatest reaction, and will very delicately nip at  
->little hairs in such sensitive spots as the back of the knee, small of the  
->back, etc.  

ahhh, angus, that sweet-tempered birdie, has discovered during his
under-the-cover treks that toenails can be lifted a fraction of an
inch before the owner of those enticing playthings shriek, aarrrggghhh!
get away from my toesies!!!  problem is, i have very little manuvering
room under the covers for my feet, and often they end up dangling over
the bed....

->While doing this she will make this very sweet gutteral  
->purring-cooing sounds which she only ever makes while under the bedcovers,  
->or inside a "tent" or box.  In the evening before going to bed we make her  
->a little tent from pillows and she likes to get inside and snuggle down on  
->a hand while beak-grinding herself into drowsiness.  She will then settle  
->down into a pair of cupped hands put into the tent and will rest her beak  
->between the thumbs and allow herself to be carried off to her cage for the  
->night.

angus now loves snuggling next my neck (assuming i'm lying face-up)
and dozing for half an hour or so before being returned to his cage.
he also will change positions to lying upsidedown, holding his
beak with one foot and his wing feather with the other.  

alas, he refuses to do this when anyone is watching, so nobody
believes me.  he most definitely is a one person birdie...


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From: king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: SHAMAN'S LATEST
Summary: wanna' be on TV?
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:44:55 GMT
Organization: AT&T

> in his absence, I reverted to instant coffee. The first cup, Shaman had some
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think you should try the "Taster's Choice" switch as advertised
ad nauseum on TV.  Maybe you and Shaman (a great name, BTW) will
be next after the Bed and Breakfast and nuns have their say.

-- 
                       Joyce Andrews King
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From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: Urgent Plea from the Father Tongue!
Keywords: bartina+oriental rug=destructo bird
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:21:40 GMT

rdmiller@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Ruth D Miller) writes:

>Then there's just training--if someone's around
>to supervise--squirt offending bird with water bottle every time she ventures
>near the rug.  Unless she likes water spray? :-)

I have found that training isn't very useful for my birds.
They just learned to wait until I'm not watching.

I can be quie funny sometimes. When they want to do something they
shouldn't (usually chewing on something) I will just stare at them. 
They will wait for a while, and try to look innocent, and hope I go
away. Eventually they get too fustrated waiting, and get mad at me,
and finally go do something else.

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Disclamer: I didn't do it - I was somewhere else at the time.
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From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Little birdie minds
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:14:15 GMT
Keywords: their little ideas of levitation

folks,

is my yellowCollared macaw, angus, the only birdie who convinced that
he can levitate grapes on my computer desk?

there's all this space on which he can chomp happily on the grapes, but
*always!* he insists on hewing on them over the ledge.  and then when
they go "bonk!" on floor two feet below, he looks worriedly at the desk,
wondering i guess why the invisible part next to it isn't solid....

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From: cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch)
Subject: Re: Little birdie minds
Reply-To: cjb@vega.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:35:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.111415.8673@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>  
bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue) writes:
> folks,
> 
> is my yellowCollared macaw, angus, the only birdie who convinced that
> he can levitate grapes on my computer desk?
> 
> there's all this space on which he can chomp happily on the grapes, but
> *always!* he insists on hewing on them over the ledge.  and then when
> they go "bonk!" on floor two feet below, he looks worriedly at the desk,
> wondering i guess why the invisible part next to it isn't solid....
> 

Our yellow-collared devil-bird, Coco, has similar aspirations but seeks to  
levitate a wider range of foodstuffs. We have come to two conclusions (a)  
she is an avian Newton and is conducting a series of experiments in  
gravitation; (b) she really wants us to pick up the fallen item and hand  
it back to her (which we invariably do) as proof of our attentiveness and  
devotion. She has us well trained.
Incidentally, she also (as some earlier posters described) loves this  
early morning game of climbing into bed with us, running down under the  
sheets and attacking wiggling fingers or toes.  She will stand on a hand  
and then, if you wiggle a finger, attempt to keep it still by pushing down  
on it, pressing it back into line like the quiet and obedient finger it  
should be. She also has an anatomist's knowldege of just where to nip and  
nibble so as to get the greatest reaction, and will very delicately nip at  
little hairs in such sensitive spots as the back of the knee, small of the  
back, etc.  While doing this she will make this very sweet gutteral  
purring-cooing sounds which she only ever makes while under the bedcovers,  
or inside a "tent" or box.  In the evening before going to bed we make her  
a little tent from pillows and she likes to get inside and snuggle down on  
a hand while beak-grinding herself into drowsiness.  She will then settle  
down into a pair of cupped hands put into the tent and will rest her beak  
between the thumbs and allow herself to be carried off to her cage for the  
night.
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From: dsnhv@dsnsun.ericsson.se (Henk Vriens)
Subject: Re: Medicating parrot
Reply-To: dsnhv@ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:17:40 GMT

In article 2104 of rec.pets.birds rnewlund@vitalink.com (Robin Newlund) writes:

> I'm hoping to get some helpful hints on how to medicate a parrot.
> He needs oral medication, liquid twice a day. I've tried putting
> it on bread - he mushes it up and spits it out. I've tried rolling
> him in a towel and dropping it on his tongue. He blots his tongue on
> the towel. I've tried putting the towel around his shoulders and
> trying to hold his head until he swallows - I don't have enough hands.
> What has worked with you all in the past. I need help, we have
> 18 more sessions to go!


A number of years ago they used to sell large needles here (Netherlands).
Instead of a sharp point there was a small ball on the top, and they were
used to inject medication directly into the birds first stomach (don't know
what it's called at your side of the Atlantic).  Because it was easy for an
unexperienced person to inject the stuff into the birds lungs, you don't see
those things anymore.

So much for history.  You could try to get your bird get used to eating
something that easily absorbs liquid, but this will only be useful if the
medicine isn't some kind of sirup.  Try unsalted popcorn or toasted soy
beans.


Henk Vriens
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From: rnewlund@vitalink.com (Robin Newlund)
Subject: Re: Medicating parrot
Reply-To: rnewlund@vitalink.com (Robin Newlund)
Organization: Vitalink Communications
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:41:34 GMT

Thank you to everyone who offered their advise. You're right Dale about
the avoidance. He sees the towel and starts running. I'll try the two
person method tonight. I did have a little more success this morning
when I mixed the medicine with berry juice. Since I was the only one
this morning, I sort of jelly rolled him in the towel and held him between
my knees - very lightly- he sort of moved his wing a little and when he
was medicated and released he told me I'd pulled his shoulder muscle,

I'm reluctant to roll him too tightly because of the breathing thing. When
two people hold him, is he on his back in your arms? 17 more medications
to go!

Robin Newlund
rnewlund@vitalink.com
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From: updike@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Todd F. Updike)
Subject: egg-binding in gouldian finch
Reply-To: updike@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 21:02:45 GMT

Hi there.
I am hoping someone can help me, and especially my little
female gouldian finch.

The problem is that she is constantly having troubles laying eggs.
(I guess the technical term is "egg-binding").

She has had 2 episodes of this, and she's starting to look quite bad
again so I think it's happening again now !

The first time it happened, I took her to the vet.  He kept her overnite
and injected her w/ 4 injections to stimulate the egg.  This last time,
I just kept her very warm and quiet, and attempted to put some mineral
oil up her "opening" (needless to say, she didn't like this)

Each time, she has looked very close to death: just sits there, shaking,
with feathers puffed out and eyes closing, and she is clearly in great
pain and discomfort.  I feel so bad - I wish I could do something for her!

Besides keeping her very warm (80-90 deg), I have also given her
this calcium supplement in her water (from the vet), but this obviously
doesn't help, as her second bout occured despite this !!

Can anyone help me with suggestions on 1) what to do if this occurs again,
and 2) the best way(s) to prevent this from happening in the first place !
I am afraid one more bout of this and she will die; it takes a lot 
out of her and she takes several days to recover.

Would spinach be bad for her ?? (I feed her the leaves and she likes them
a lot, but I noticed the problem has coincided with feeding her this {may
just be coincidence though} ).

Any/all suggestions would be greatly appreciated !! Please mail 
responses directly to me, to ensure I see them soon.

Thanks much from me and most of all, my little finch !!

Todd
From: jthyne@budski.East.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: FOR SALE COCKATOO LESSER
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:40:46 GMT
Reply-To: jthyne@budski.East.Sun.COM
Organization: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
NNTP-Posting-Host: budski.east.sun.com


I have for sale a beautiful Lesser-Sulphur Crested Cockatoo that unfortunately
I must sell due to allergies with my new born son.  We got her in March and
since then she's able to say her name and a couple of other words and barks
at you, so I know she is very tameable.  I know if I could keep her she would learn
alot more!  She's a very very affectionate bird.  She loves to be with you 
and many times she goes for rides around town with me with no problem, she loves
the car, shower, outdoors .....

She has been thru a full battery of tests from a very
notable aviary vet in the area, and the doctor has given her a great bill of health.
All receipts are available for the tests.

She has her own cage with a number of accessories to go with her.  

The price will be negotiable and open to a reasonable offer, or if guaranteed
a good home we will be willing to really work something out.

Joe 
Home: 508-970-2422
Work: 508-250-6599

The birds name is Tia'  
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From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Re: Lories?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:06:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.093748.2921@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:
->Am I the only known human in the (Usenet) world who keeps/loves Lories, in my
->case specifically Black-Capped Lories (Lorius Lory Lory - file under Dept. of
->Redundancy Dept. (-: )?

actually, when i was looking for a birdie to replace the one who scorned
my heart (darry the marron-bellied conure for all you old-timers out there),
i was considering a lory (my SO and i had visited the loryFeeding exhibition
in at USA/Africa theme park near san fransicso, and i was entranced by
them.  you are given pieces of apples, walk into the enclosure, and soon
are covered with a multitude of lories begging for the fruit.  amazing
experience.)

alas, i couldn't find any handTamed blue-streaked lories (i know, i know,
the "pretty bird" syndrome again) or any handTames lories for that matter.
so now i have instead a yellowCollared macaw named angus.

i'd be most interested to hear your lory experience!!

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From: Polly.Goldman@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Polly Goldman)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: A Tale of One Beak
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 12:35:00 -0500

 susan@solace.me.uiuc.edu (Susan Wrightson)
 squawked about her sun conure:


 SW> Anyway, last night, I bent over to put some clothes away, and he crawled
 SW> halfway into my shirt.  I started laughing.  HE started laughing.  So
 SW> there I was, with his tail sticking out of my shirt, and both of us
 SW> laughing!  

Gee, and I thought I was the only person who regularly got a laughing conure
down my shirt!
  
My gold capped conure has been crawling down my shirt since last November or so,
and he's even gotten to the point where he mumbles "you're not supposed to
laugh" along with me.
  
Usually he minds his manners, but last week my husband pitched a handfull of
seed down my shirt (we're in the process of switching to pellets, so our
conure's not seeing much seed in his cups), the bird and husband went into
hysterics.


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From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Re: Joke!  Joke!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 12:13:48 GMT

In article <121010009@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
>Another:
>[...]

okay you forced me  -

what do you call a pirate's parrot who keeps saying, pieces of nine, pieces of
nine?

























a parrot with a parroty error!

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From: lark@ruby.ora.com (Lar Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Need to place goldie's lorikeet
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:38:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ora.BvzDnw.AE7
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.

I have a 4.5 year old goldie's lorikeet (gender not confirmed, acts male) 
that I need to place (preferably) with a mate.  This bird is closed-banded
(hatched in northern Vermont) and hand-raised, but just needs more attention
than I am in a position to give it.  It is obsessed with a couple of its toys
and tries to mate with them.

I would like to get this bird into the hands of an experienced breeder of 
the species who will provide it a home (and family) of its own.  Otherwise,
I am willing to acquire a mate for the bird and place both with a zoo that 
will provide the close attention that lorikeets need.  (Because of their diet,
lorikeet food must be changed frequently.)

I will sell or exchange (or perhaps even give away) into the right situation
only; no novices, no persons seeking a pretty pet need apply (though 
"Buster 'Keeton" is fully hand-tame and has a limited vocabulary and makes some
neat special effects sounds).

Thanks for your attention,

-lar
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:13:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Joke!  Joke!!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds

Another:


What do you call those pesky down feathers that seem to find their way
all over the house?






















Ans: Parroty Bits

Ron
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: AS.KCC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Keith Chinn)
Subject: Lovebirds
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:39:39 GMT

cj -

"Pit Birds", that's great!  The last of three lovebirds I've
acquired (all Fisher's) definitely fits the name.  He started out as
a sweet, rather timid hand-fed baby and in about 4 months became an
aggressive and fearless little twerp.  I've wondered if it has
anything to do with territorial tendencies because he becomes
his nastiest when I'm near or my arm is actually in his cage.

In contrast, my first bird (I thought female for 8 years until I
found out conclusively otherwise) was as good natured and charming
as could be.  I knew nothing about birds when I purchased him from
a local pet store other than he was cute and supposedly tame.  Well,
it was true that he didn't bite but whenever he was out of his cage
he couldn't wait to get away from me.  It took FOREVER for him to
come willingly out of his cage to me (after months of trying I
didn't think it would happen) but when he finally did it seemed to
be the pivotal point in our relationship.  From then on he was
wonderfully friendly and affectionate but not clingy.  Just the
perfect little bird.

Well, about 2 years ago when he was about 8 years old I decided to
introduce him to another Fisher's (an 8 month old female it turned
out) for companionship reasons.  Right off the bat they were
compatible so within 6 months of their introduction I attempted to
get them to breed because I REALLY wanted an offspring from the male.
Despite the age difference, lack of experience and probably less
than ideal conditions they went about the task of setting up house
almost immediately after the introduction of the nest box.  All I
did was supply the nesting material (the foraging was fun actually)
and the female went bonkers shredding just about everything in sight.
Shortly after the shredding stopped she laid 5 eggs at 2-day
intervals.  After what seemed like FOREVER one egg hatched, but only
one.  Unfortunately the chick did not survive beyond 9 days and, as
fate would have it, the father died shortly after.  I was crushed...

Buster, the pit bird, I acquired a little over a year ago to
keep Sam(antha) company and possibly for pairing up.  I read
somewhere, however, that some lovebirds will not tolerate a
bird of the opposite sex after it's mate has died.  Anyway, Sam does
seem to be interested while she and Buster are in separate cages but
is definitely NOT interested while they're in the same cage
together.  She goes after him tooth and nail (oops, change that to
beak and claw).  I'd really like to get them together - suggestions
anyone?

Keith
From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Budgie mating
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:11:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I presently have three English Budgies all male, all blue, in
a rather large cage (like in a pet store).  The pet store where
I purchased these birds 5 years ago does not carry them any more but
still has access to them.  One is five, one is two, and the other is less
than a year. If this pipeline eventually dies out (breeder) what will happen
if I buy a female and a nesting box and put them all in the one cage.

Ignorant question:  Will she pair up with one and use the nesting box?

  Does it make a difference that there are other males in the cage?

  Will they act as surrogate fathers, or with they destroy the chicks?

  I suppose I need all blue birds to get blue offspring?  Or do I need
a lutino? Green?

  

Does anybody out there breed budgies (parakeets).  I am interested in
English Budgies at this time.  They were in a cage with an American
parakeet for 3 years but she was so nasty and aggressive.  Maybe because
she was dwarfed.  She did not get along with the English female in the cage
either.

  HELP!  Any suggestions are welcome as well as experiences.

Thanks in advance,


      Ken Dowzycki
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From: auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen)
Subject: Re: Myna Bird
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:03:21 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct13.202939.18728@ra.msstate.edu> Moritz@cvmmdl2.msstate.edu (K.Moritz) writes:

>When I was growing up, I remember several ladies (all of whom were German)
>owning Myna birds.

I remember Myna birds as well.  For a few years they were commonly available
but I haven't seen one in a long time.   Does anyone know if they can still
be obtained and why you don't see them much anymore?

Dave 
auwen@convex.com
From: billg@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Bill Gingras)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:59:46 GMT
Subject: Re: African Grey Congos and Mynahs
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds


If there are alot of complaints, the humane society (at least our local
humane society) will bust the place and confiscate the animals.  I do
volunteer work for the humane society and I have seen it happen.  They
DO adopt these animals out to good homes.

- Bill G
From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Getting that medicine to go down!
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:33:11 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

When I had to medicate my cockatiel, B.B., the vet suggested I 
out it in his water and it worked just fine!  YOu may want to 
check with your vet to see if that is ok and will will work with
the medication that has been prescribed.

Good luck!!  *smile*

Suzanne
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