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From: arl@cs.hut.fi (Ari Lemmke)
Subject: Re: linux activists not very active
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:10:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.155719.22573@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle aka L. Ron Hoover) writes:
:I've noticed a distinct decrease in the volume of mail in the activists
:mailing list.  Say, down to 0 now!  I think i've seen snatches of conversation
:about the list...but our newsfeed is VERY behind!   Can anyone mail me
:and tell me why?  Just curious is all...

	Once again ;-) should this be FAQ?

	Linux-Activists should now be running. The list has
	been disabled due the problems it caused; too high
	mail volume. Now many channels are digested - I'm
	still going to make it better, even allow some
	people send to digested channel undigested mails
	(moderators?). I reprogrammed everything using perl,
	because it has nice string functions .. and it is
	fast enough.

	Digested channels are:
		680x0		configs		doc
		fsf		gcc		interviews
		kernel		mgr		msdos
		net		normal		scsi
		serial		slip		sound
		tape		term		uucp
		x11

	These are currently sent daily. When Mail-Net configuring
	gets better I might change some digested channels
	sent twice in a day etc. Lists having less than about
	50 users are sent directly.

	The system is going to look soon like mail based "irc" ..
	and give more service for ALPHA/BETA testers, for which
	the list mainly appear. There are much more better places
	to ask FAQs, like "telnet your.archie.site","login: archie",
	"prog inux".

	I'm going to release Mail-Net sources, so you can spread
	yafv (Yet Another Finnish Virus) ... irc to mailing lists ;-)

:     Ed

	arl
From: gbothe@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Someone make .99 image for 3c503??
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:51:01 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Can someone PLEASE make an SLS version of the Linux Image that uses a 3c503
Ethernet board INSTEAD of a WD8003 board??  I think it would save a lot of
people (like me) a lot of hassles trying to get tcp/ip to work...  The SLS
defaults (w/ version .99 kernel) are perfect for me except for the ethernet
board...  Can anyone compile a .99 version for those of us who are too stupid
to get it working???  Thanks!

Greg Bothe
gbothe@discover.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ssb1pzp@access.digex.com (Phil Perucci)
Subject: Kernel make question?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 13:12:55 GMT

Hello fellow kernel makers!

  Questions: 1) With 0.98pl6 and LILO 0.6 (can't get 0.7 to compile),
                should I use the US keyboard in Makefile if I am 
                resident of USA.  I know this sounds stupid, but with
                "vmlinux" kernel I got with GCC, emacs arrow keys work.
                With mine, they don't.

             2) Again, 0.98pl6 and LILO 0.6;  I have tried every
                combination I can think of in Makefile with SVGA...
                variable.  Still I get weird 132 column text mode
                on my paradise VGA card.  More frustrating still,
                I can't get my image to prompt for video type when
                booting.  I tried commenting out the variable to
                no avail...

  My config: 1) 486/33 AMI motherboard, AMI BIOS
             2) Paradise VGA (no SVGA)
             3) GCC distribution of Linux.  Laid "libc.so.4.2" and
                "inc41.tar" on top.  No SLS stuff being used at this
                time.

   Note:     1) Kernel compiles quite easily, just would like to kill
                bugs listed in "Questions" above.


Any takers?  Sure would appreciate it!
             ------------------------

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers)
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for High Energy Physics
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:29:33 GMT

Your proposal sounds good, but there are several problems with 
your proposal.

  1. The number of things you listed are way to long.  Nobody
     will remember them all letter-per-letter when writing a
     news post.

  2. On some systems kill-files are terrably slow.  I used to
     use kill-files with rn but, I found that normally it took
     longer for it to kill the messages than it takes me to look
     at the header and press the D key.

  3. Some systems don't have experts that know how to use kill-
     files.  Forexample: The only news readers I found that 
     work at CERN are vnews from a vax and emacs from an hp.
     However, the instructions for vnews are for unix systems.
     (You can't even create .* files on a vax!)  Simmularly
     the emacs news readers has no operating instructions.  Since,
     I'm probably the only one here using the emacs news reader
     there is little hope of finding an "expert" to ask.

However, I still think your suggestion has merit.  If you can reduce
your list to a reasonable number of keywords, I'm sure people like
myself will invest the time to figure out a reasonable quick method
of killing messages.


                               Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: S_ESPENLAUB@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Klaus Espenlaub)
Subject: HELP!!! problems with SLS .98pl5and 2nd level cache
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:57:12 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi folks,

i've been installing SLS .98pl5 last weekend and had very weird problems
until i've switched off my 2nd level cache:

- mail died with segmentation fault
- tetris died with segmentation fault
- gcc died with SIGSEG....
- .......

After I switched it off everything works fine. Is this an board error or is
there any rule behind this (everything works fine with the builtin cache of
the 486).

My machine consists of:
- 486 50MHz
- OPTi chipset (the one for all 486-XXXX including SX) manufactured by
  Shuttle (don't remember the exact type)
- 16MB RAM
- 256kB 2nd level cache
- IDE controller made by Timex with Quantum LPS240A connected
- multi i/o on IDE controller
- Diamond SpeedSTAR HiColor BIOS Rev. 4.3

I'm totally unwilling to let my cache been switched off, so may anybody
help me?

Thanks for all, please answer quickly
From: mark.swanson@synapse.org (Mark Swanson) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: LIBC.SO.4.?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:40:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: mark.swanson@synapse.org (Mark Swanson) 

Hi!  The person that was getting files from the internet for me just
moved away and I only need a couple of files to make Linux .098 pl 6
work.  I need libc.so.4.1.  I got lobc.so.4.2, but gcc core dumps on me
with it. (my gcc happens to be compiled with .4.1) also, groff bitterly
complains that libm.so.4 isn't around... heh heh. I guess I also need
that.  Is there anyone out there that could upload these two files to
this board?  Thank you very much.
                                                        
Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:20008 comp.unix.bsd:10118 comp.sys.m68k:1445
From: bob@amscons.amscons.com (Bob Amstadt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Need an OS to run on VME-based 68k system
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:54:51 GMT
Organization: Amstadt Consulting Group

A friend of mine has the following hardware and is looking
for an OS to run on his hardware.  Any leads would be appreciated:

CPU			VME165
HD/FD Controller	VME320B
8-port Serial Board	VMR705
Bob Amstadt
bob@amscons.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: linda@cs.su.oz.au (Linda Distributed Language)
Subject: X for 2theMax et4000 card
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:37:29 GMT

Does any body have any ideas on running X on this card? I haven't tried anything
yet, because I want to know if any of the X packages supports the 800x600x32K
HiColor mode of this card (very hopeful, I know) and I thought someone might
have an experience to share...

Thanks,
	David Monro
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fridlund@mermaid.micro.umn.edu (Jim Fridlund)
Subject: Re: How stable is extended filesystem?
Organization: U of MN Computer Science
	<BzC542.8oF@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:48:14 GMT

In article <BzC542.8oF@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall) writes:

   >If you don't *need* extfs, and don't mind short file names, I would
   >recommend not using it for now.


   I have been using the Extended filesystem since kernel version 0.96c
   allowed them to be mounted as the root filesystem... (this was extfs
   ALPHA v6) and since that time, I have *NEVER* had a single problem
   with an extended filesystem that was not *DIRECTLY* the fault of my
   own stupidity or power failure.  (ie, reboot w/o sync, etc)

I just got my SCSI working a few days ago and have been using extfs
version 10, I believe.  So far I have not encountered any problems
(knock on wood).  I've had to reboot my machine with the reset switch
several times because of improper use of 'xdm', but efsck reports no
problem with the SCSI.  It seems stable on my machine.  I wish it were
the standard file system for Linux.  Perhaps someday...  Yeah, never
reboot without a 'sync'.  This is true for all unix box.  I wait till
I see Linux 'sync' before I do a system reset.  NOTE:  I don't do
system reset unless necessary.

   I would suggest that you partition your drive in such a manner that you
   can tar or zip up one entire partition to another to replace/upgrade
   the filesystems as needed... 

I agree.  This seems to be a good idea.  I found this to be quite
helpful in some cases.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wcalderw@nmsu.EDU (CALDERWOOD)
Subject: Re: compilation problems, using SLS 0.98 pl5
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:31:08 GMT

 
  has anyone else had problems with the SLS 0.98 pl5 release in compiling
things?

  i'm trying to compile Omega, and i've had a few problems.
  the first one was that getc() was causing a core dump, then
  any ideas?

Hi,
  Have you defined linux in any of your headers ? I beleave curses
needs this so that it will use the posix compatible routeens.
Perhaps other libraries will need it also.

  Hope I helped some.

William A. Calderwood
wcalderw@nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Steve_Goyette@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Goyette)
Subject: O.k., want to get started but how (Another one)
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:15:57 GMT

HI all,

        I have been playing with Linux off and on for about 6 months now.
Starting with .96 and now .98.  I like the .98 (SLS) especially the install
routine.  O.k., enough comments, now the meat....What now???  I would like to
do the following....Have Linux running on my 486SX with XWindows.  Connect it
up to my 486DX with DesqView/x and a Motorola NCD 16 XWindows terminal and
run software back and forth throught the three systems.  Problem is, I'm just
not sure how to go about it.  I know that I have to use TCP/IP for the
communications between the systems, but haven't got a clue where to start on
that one either.  Then I would like to setup the 486SX to get mail from
usenet.  Is this all possible, and if so how???  Are there books available
about Linux and/or methods of accomplishing my goals??  Anyway, any help
would be appreciated.


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From: dsimon@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Derron Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: CMOS erasure problem w/ 486s and Linux
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:26:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Has this problem been fixed?  About a month ago after I posted an article
mentioning my CMOS had been wiped out by SLS after reboots on my 486 I
was swamped with replies.  Unfortunately they were all requests for a fix.

Has anyone found out what is going on with this?  I have a 486/33Mhz machine
with AMI BIOS.  I was told this was an AMI problem, but I have a friend here
at school who says he occasionally has the same problem on his 386 gateway
with Phoenix BIOS.  

It seems that most of the people who've had problem had the Hard Drive data
in their CMOS wiped out.  Does Linux change anything pertaining to the
hard drive?  I heard from another friend here who hasn't been experiencing
problems that he saw something about the CMOS pertaining to hard drives
in the fdisk program...  I don't know what this is about, but it sounds
like a clue.


Another common symptom is that it's soft reboots which corrupt the CMOS,
hardware resets seem to keep it in tact.

PLEASE HELP ME!!  I really love Linux and already sold my 386 I had it
running on for several months.

Thanks in advance,
Derron Simon


P.S. Any help is appreciated, even if it's just a pointer into the code
so I can fix it myself. 
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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: nubie: SLS: what is a1.Z & where is a1?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:25:09 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


In article <1992Dec17.015633.25217@alw.nih.gov> arm@helix.nih.gov
(Andrew Mitz) writes:
>
> It threw me that on the MIT site a2 was not compressed but a1 was.

Well, you can still do `get a2.Z'; the FTP server will compress it on
the fly.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bateman@nmt.edu (Monte Bateman)
Subject: MS Busmouse won't respond :: help!
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:49:46 GMT

Sorry if this is a FAQ  --  I've read all I can find about it
and I still can't get the thing to work.  I've loaded the SLS
distribution 0.98 PL5; I'm using a Microsoft Bus Mouse (2-buttons).
I get the xroot window to come up and the xclock appears, and waits
for the mouse to give it a location.  No recognition of the mouse,
in either movement or button clicks.

(in Xconfig) I've tried:::

Microsoft   /dev/mouse   (linked to "/dev/bmousems")

and

Microsoft   /dev/bmousems

and

BusMouse    /dev/mouse   (linked to "/dev/bmousems")

and

BusMouse    /dev/bmousems


....none of which worked.   I know I'm editing the correct "Xconfig" file
because I was able to set the correct video mode.

Please e-mail any suggestions to: bateman @ owl.nmt.edu

Any/all help appreciated!!!
Monte

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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How much can Linux do?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:42:20 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


In article <1992Dec18.105718.2564@odin.diku.dk> viggo@diku.dk (Allan
Kim Schougaard) writes:
>
> including making coffee and breading babies !

Eh, does it cook the babies and eat them, too?

Oh, never mind.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: network over modem...
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:35:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.072238.20580@cuug.ab.ca> jeremiah@cuug.ab.ca (Jerry Jeremiah 290-8941) writes:
>Newsgroups: poster
>I have a modem.  I have a site that has a modem that connects to a unix
>machine.   How do I get telnet and ftp to start my modem connection
>and do everything that way instead of an ethernet adapter?

It's called SLIP (Single Line IP), and it's currently in development for
Linux. Most other operating systems support SLIP connections, however to be
of any use you need a fast modem (9600bps at the very least), because you're
actually transmitting packets over the modem connection, and telnet, ftp, etc.
aren't as simple as just "dialing up" (which works fine for slower modems).

Once it's available for Linux, it should be very easy to get yourself SLIP
access from another system, thereby putting yourself on the net via modem.

Cheers,
mdw

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
Subject: Re: 3c501 cards
Organization: IDA Supercomputing Research Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:41:34 GMT

In article <724336546.AA26409@remote.halcyon.com> Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett) writes:
> > I have recently come into a rather large quantity of
> > 3c501 cards
> > (~30).  I would be happy to sell them for $20 plus
> > shipping.  Buy 5 or
> > more and get a discount!  I realize that currently the
> > 3c501 drivers
> > haven't been released even in alpha yet, but I have
> > been given to
> > understand that they are in progress.
>
>I am not familur with that card, what is it, 8 bit, 16 bit?
>
> * Origin: Intermittent Connection, Eugene OR 503-344-9838 (1:152/35)
>

It's a first generation 8 bit ethernet card using the SEEQ 8001 chip.

I would not recommend using a 3c501 for several reasons:

	The 3c501 is far too braindamaged to use.  It can only do one thing
	at a time -- while you are removing one packet from the single-packet
	buffer it cannot receive another packet, nor can it receive a
	packet while are loading a transmit packet.  This was fine for
	a network between two 8088-based computers where processing a packet
	took 10's of msecs. (10Mb/sec was faster than the IBM-PC bus!)
	but in an environment where machines are expected to send and
	receive streams of back-to-back packets the 3c501 just cannot
	function. 

	If he is referring to my pre-alpha 3c501 driver -- it's not finished,
	its low on my list of priorities, and I'll never release it
	beyond alpha when I do finish it because of the performance problems.

	Documentation on the 3c501 is a problem.  3Com no longer prints the
	3c501 documentation.  They have a limited number of old copies, but
	even those have a warning on the front that they (3Com) didn't have 
	their usual technical documentation on the board.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ammo@cc.gatech.edu (Ammo Goettsch)
Subject: keyboard problems - v.99
Summary: setup.s kbd controller/vga mode bug reported in 89.pl6 is still there
Keywords: v.99, keyboard, bug, SVGA mode 
Reply-To: ammo@cc.gatech.edu (Ammo Goettsch)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:27:27 GMT

I installed v.99 after applying the fixes that Linus posted. I set the 
SVGA option to NORMAL_VGA and it booted fine, except that my keyboard was 
locked. Evidentially this was caused by the bug previously reported in
v.89.pl6, where setup.s causes keyboard controller confusion if you pre-set
the video mode. Does anybody know whether Johan Myreen's fix that was posted
for v.89.pl6 will work for v.99? (I was too timid to just try it and so I
just set it to ask for video mode and it works fine.)

Ammo Goettsch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Olit files missing in Xview stuff?
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:05:28 GMT

I decided to try some of the sample programs in an open look programming
book I have. I ended up with it not finding the following header files:

Xol/OpenLook.h
Xol/StaticText.h

Where do I find these? Or does Xview only include a piece of the 
open look libraries? 

Are the widget libraries available as freeware?

Are there any widget libraries available for Linux? Preferably ones
with documentation included :-)

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From: zdenek@ksr.com (Zdenek Radouch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ps and /dev/kmem
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:22:03 GMT
Organization: Kendall Square Research Corp.

I wrote:
   This is unfortunately impossible to do with a single executable (you
   need two, one suid) under POSIX or Sys V, so GNUmake will not work on
   these machines.

>Gee, I had no problem configuring out the load average counting in GNU
>make.  I didn't want it (even under Linux) because of the set_g_id
>stuff, so I changed the Makefile as indicated in itself, and it
>worked.  Can't imagine why it wouldn't work under POSIX or SYSV.
>
>--

Yes, you can configure the loading stuff out, but as I said in my article,
the problem is that they coded the whole program assuming that it would
have to toggle uid (to be able to go to /dev/kmem).  Unfortunately, they
didn't understand how the get/setuid() work under POSIX or SystemV so
the GNUmake will either screw up your permissions or simply fail, if
you invoke it with uid != euid. The only way to fix it is (assuming
you don't need to suid) is to edit out all the get/setuid code since
it can't be disabled.

My point was that not only is /dev/kmem concept and its hacking questionable
because it requires recompiling, but it also involves complete understanding
of security issues and definitions of setuid(). Setuid under POSIX and
SystemV is very complicated and different from BSD setuid.

When I get more time I'll take a look at the linux implementation and
tell you if it's POSIX compliant.
-Z