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From: peter@zeus.DIALix.oz.au (Peter Wemm)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Dell 2.2, xdm, Xmach, /dev/mouse (Re: xrn broken in Dell 2.2?)
Date: 25 Sep 1992 16:17:41 +0800
Organization: Karam Pty. Ltd., Perth, Western Australia.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.dialix.oz.au

eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:
>	I just installed the release 2.2 on one of our Dell machines, and
>I was able to get nearly everything working.  I can start up X-Windows, and
>everything works fine, but xdm will not start.  I get the following in the
>xdm-errors file:
>>X386 Version 1.2 / X Windows System
>>(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
>>
>>ATI: Ultra (mem: 1024k clocks: 25 30 36 40 45 50 65 75)
>>Cannot open /dev/mouse: No such device or address
>>Cannot open /dev/mouse: No such device or address
>>
>>Fatal server error:
>>failed to initialize core devices
>>error (pid 572): server open failed for :0, giving up
>>error (pid 569): Display :0 cannot be opened

>and basically keeps retrying.  We are using the mousemgr, and I have the
>old-style logitech 3 button mouse.  Since X works if I start it with startx,
>I would tend to believe that the problem is somehow localized to xdm.

>	If anyone has any suggestions or ideas, I would be interested in
>hearing them.

The problem is the way mousemgr and xdm work.  When a process opens /dev/mouse
mousemgr gets an open request, and looks for the vt that the request came from.
It (mousemgr) then opens the VT and links in a streams module to feed in the
mouse events.  (This is from messing with "truss")
This means that the process that opens /dev/mouse MUST have a VT as it's
controlling terminal.  When you start X from "startx", this is the case.
xdm has no controlling terminal.  Due to a bug in the implementation of
Xmach on Dell (They based it on an older X386 I think), the Xserver
is not attaching to the correct controlling terminal properly.

I found this problem a while ago and reported it, but I doubt that a fix
is available.

My "workaround" at the time, was to write a little program which was
called "X", and attached to a VT if it had no controlling terminal, then
ran the real X.

This was the program I used:
----Begin /usr/bin/X11/X.c---
#include <fcntl.h>
main(int ac, char **av)
{
	close(open("/dev/vt13", O_RDWR, 0));
	sleep(2);
	execv("/usr/bin/X11/Xmach", av);
}
----End-----
In your xdm-servers, have it run /usr/bin/X11/X instead of Xmach.
Also, it seems that it doesn't matter WHICH VT you attach to, you still get
the mouse events.

Warning!!:  This was used with a prototype Xmach from Dell on a 2.1 system.
It worked for me, but your mileage may vary!  Use at your own risk!

>-Eric

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: dror@netcom.com (Oz Dror)
Subject: GNU LD 2.0 for SCO UNIX (i.e., i386-coff)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 00:48:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In Compiling gnu binutils version 2.0 . I found out that SCO unix is not 
supported for the ld program. (i.e., there is no support for i386-coff),
But it is mentioned in the manual. There is also support for in the BFD
library.
I think that only the script file is missing.

Dose anyone have any idea how to solve this problem?

My system is: 486/50Mhz
OS: SCO Unix (3.2.2, ODT1.1)

I would appreciate any help?
Thanks,
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: USL's SVR4.2, when?
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Distribution: comp.unix.sysv386
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:48:20 GMT

In article <2AC3D62A.3DCF@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>And David's answer addressed the question.
>
>SVR4.2 = Destiny
>
>Destiny is the base product that USL will be sub-licensing (to ESIX,
>Dell, Consensys, etc.) and it will be up to those sub-licensees to set
>exact prices, bundling choices, release dates, etc.
>
>The closest that USL will get to *directly* putting a product into the
>end-user channel is UnixWare, the Univel product. While people certainly
>remember that Novell has a significant piece of Univel, they may forget
>that USL has a 55% stake in it.
>
>UnixWare = Destiny + Univel added value
>Dell 4.2 = Destiny + Dell added value
>ESIX 4.2 = Destiny + ESIX added value
>etcetera...
>
	Oh...okay.  I did misunderstand then :(  I though that
Destiny was a whole new 'distribution', like Esix/Dell/etc. 

	Then I ask...any ideas on prices of ESIX 4.2? :)

Thanks for clearing that up...

Marc

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From: robsch@robkaos.GUN.de (Robert Schien)
Subject: Re: Bootmanager from OS2 switching DOS5.0 and Interactive 386/ix
Organization: Private Site, Essen, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: tub
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:23:16 GMT

Gert Gottschalk (gottsch@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Hi there,
: 
[stuff deleted]
: 
: Now as there is no such manager coming with Interactive 386/ix I decided
: to use the one coming with OS2 2.0. I proceeded through the installation disks
: until I was told that the bootmanager was installed. I configured the
: bootmanager to make it know the DOS5.0 and UNIX partitions on the harddisk 0.
: (I use AT-Bus drives). 
: Now on boot the manager comes up fine and asks if I want DOS or UNIX.
: Selecting dump DOS everything works fine (boot is o.k.). Selecting UNIX
: nothing happens (no boot no system)
: 
: Does anybody have similar problems and found a solution ?
: Any help is appreciated !!
: 
: Thanks,
: 
I tried similiar things. I even could not get the OS/2 boot manager get
to recognize the UNIX system.
There is another problem: OS/2's and UNIX's FDISK mechanisms seem to be
quite different. For instance, I have a UNIX (BTW, ESIX 3.2D) partition
starting on cylinder 200 and ending at 1053 (the disk is a Conner 500 MB
IDE disk). As I wanted to install OS/2 on the first 200 cylinders, OS/2
refused: not enough space (200 cylinder= 100 MB on the Conner).
I had no problems to install the good old DOS 3.3:-)
This is called progress.:-)

Robert
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"To err is human, to really foul things up requires a computer"
From: zdxh0a@trc.amoco.com (Douglas Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Unix "Lite" is not so light
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:56:52 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Originator: zdxh0a@gpss53


In article <BvKHx7.7EG@gator.rn.com>, larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
> shane@sbgrad7.cs.sunysb.edu (Shane Bouslough) writes:
> 
> >Consensys also ships on 60 floppies, but they charge an extra $100
> >for the service.
> 
> that would (to me) be a nightmare -- 60 floppies.  Right now Dell
> comes on 3 floppies (boot, kernel and unlimited users upgrade) and
> one 250 meg tape (which runs just fine in a 150 meg drive).  CD
> I think is an interesting alternative.

Consensys offers it on two 150 meg tapes.

-- 
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From: gw18@prism.gatech.EDU (Greg Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: XFree 1.1 on ISC 2.0.2?
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:42:17 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I have a version of ISC 2.0.2 sitting on my bookshelves right now, and I just
got a 486/33 so I figured I'd install it.  What I want to know is if the XFree
that just got released will be able to run on it?  I know that version 2.2 is
the official supported version, but I was wondering if there's anything in it
that requires version 2.2.  So, does anyone actually have it running on 2.0.2?

-- 
Greg Williams
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades)
Subject: Destiny vs ODT vs Dell vs ESIX
Summary: price and competition of UNIX 386 systems
Keywords: Destiny ODT SCO Dell ESIX
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:02:04 GMT

I read with interest the toing and froing about the pros and 
cons of Dell UNIX vs ESIX. We use ODT V1.1 ourselves but I find
that I sympathised with comments from supporters of both of the
other versions.

The question is: If Destiny retails for about US$300 will it not
undercut a lot of the debate about bundling/unbundling? I have 
been frustrated by not having the ODT Dev Sys. It looks as though
Destiny is the all singing, all dancing solution to just about
everyone's needs - no? If the cost of Destiny in site licence
situations (teaching institutions) is reduced still further -
how could groups who need a little multi-user (or a lot)
decide in favour of things like Windows or OS/2? 

Will Destiny be a real mass market product?

-- 
Philip Rhoades
First Year Biology
University of Sydney
phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU or philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
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From: mbarkah@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ade Barkah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:08:44 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
:
[stuff deleted]
: 
: What it would require to run a VESA standard under UNIX:
: 
: 1)	A virtual 8086 without Gate A20 Defeat to run the driver on behalf
: 	of a 386 virtual 8086 VESA interface driver.
: 
: 2)	A message control mechanism for the virtual 8086 to driver interface.
: 
: 3)	Pretend "interrupt driven" code for the "8086" to actually implement
: 	the BIOS calls for VESA.
:
[stuff deleted]
: 
: Now this would be slow -- so slow, in fact, that standard VGA programming
: would probably be faster,...
: 
: 					Terry Lambert

QUICK, everyone, rewrite your cards register-compatible with
8514 !!!

-Ade.
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From: solca1@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Modem-External
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:56:19 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

Hi;

I'am trying to attach a modem to a machine running SYSVR4 since two 
days .My problem is not to attach physically but that unix 
recognise that I have a modem installed on Com2 with bds 300-2400.
The port is installed,I have over sysadm-shell made a Uucp-installation
Menu 'Basic Networking'->'add device'->'add system',a loot of reboot were done 
in the mean time and so on.But know if I want to use the cu command the system
say :can't access Devices(file).
What I looking for is to have the possibility to connect me from my 386machine
at home to a vax,via what kind of software doesn't matter; I would prefer
kermit but I am not close against any suggestion.The modem and transfer if I
use DOS.


Thanks for any answering ..

Jan.
From: solca1@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: MODEM-Inst.
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:15:02 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

Hi;

I'am trying to attach a modem to a machine running SYSVR4 since two 
days .My problem is not to attach physically but that unix 
recognise that I have a modem installed on Com2 with bds 300-2400.
The port is installed,I have over sysadm-shell made a Uucp-installation
Menu 'Basic Networking'->'add device'->'add system',a loot of reboot were done 
in the mean time and so on.But know if I want to use the cu command the system
say :can't access Devices(file).
What I looking for is to have the possibility to connect me from my 386machine
at home to a vax,via what kind of software doesn't matter; I would prefer
kermit but I am not close against any suggestion.The modem and transfer if I
use DOS.


Thanks for any answering ..

Jan.
From: mcastro@hp9k.lag.itesm.mx (Manuel Castro Trevino)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: help on porting dos programs to unix/xenix
Summary: help on porting dos programs to unix/xenix
Keywords: help on porting
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:31:21 GMT


we are software developers here in mexico,our software is in DOS,
but now we want to use it in Unix/Xenix, and we are not familiar with such 
enviroment, so we are asking for advise on the next subjects:

a) compiler
we are using the microsoft C compiler version 6.0 ,
which compiler is the most compatible in Unix/Xenix with this one?

B) linking
we use the pocket soft's rt-link to link our programs
we want to know if there is some similar linker program ,
or which one is the most recomended.

C) protection
as you know we have a serious problem here at mexico with piracy,
so we are using cop's copy lock II to protect our software,
what do you recomend to use in unix/xenix?

you can contact us at mcastro@hp9k.lag.itesm.mx,
we'll be grateful on any help or comment you provide to us.

Manuel  Castro
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books)
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Keywords: Diamond, free-software
Organization: FSU nuclear physics
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:26:58 GMT

In article <BvB2BC.C34@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>In article <1992Sep25.075815.10416@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.
mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:>>In article <Bv034L.DEJ@usenet.ucs.
indiana.edu>, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:>
>>>> Complete schematics, parts list, how to obtain it, complete doc. on
>>>> how to build it, everything available on public domain.
>
>>> Why bother, when you can buy a very good card for under $200?
>
>>Why?  To quote the posting you replied to, complete schematics, parts
>>list, how to obtain it, [...], everything available on public domain.
>
>>Of course, perhaps your "very good card for under $200" *has* all of
>>that.  If so, please tell me where to get it!  Tell the whole net
>>where, for that matter - the Diamond flap has demonstrated the
>>existence of plenty of people who'd love to find such a thing.
>
>You seem to be arguing that simply because all this stuff is
>in the public domain it immediately makes the card 
>
>1) Good. Fast.
>2) Reliable.
>3) Widely used.
>4) Free.
>
>In other words better than the $200 commercial item. Or at 
>least you'd need to argue that having everything in public 
>domain makes everything else a worthwhile sacrifice..
>

If you've been following this discussion you'd see that all the design
proposals do things you can't do with the current video cards.  If you
want to do VR, drive multiple monitors (2+) or an array[] of other things.
All these make it a worthwhile project.

>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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ala>Internet: NTAIB@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU |    Frog is Frog ala Peach
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: dlucy@sandr.COM (Douglas Lucy)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Postscript to HPCL converter
Organization: S&R Software, Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 15:13:04 GMT

sh0002@porsche (Scott Hou) writes:

>Hello, folks.  This may not be the right group to ask but what the hay?!

>Does anyone know of such a package that will convert postscript files to
>HPCL files (a freeware, shareware, public domain package, preferrably)?

Handmade Software has a Shareware product called ALCHEMY for MS-DOS
that converts many formats to many formats. Included are Postscript
and HP PCL.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: uucp g protocol tuning parameters -- help cutting phone bills!
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:44:22 GMT

john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:

>>In article <1992Oct3.072415.19296@weyrich.UUCP>, orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich) writes:
>> 
>>> but I am only getting about 500 cps out of my [long distance  -- I pay  for
>>> it!] link to uunet. I get about  900 cps out of a local link.

>You should be happy that you are getting 500 cps from UUNET because I am 
>getting only 176 cps from PSI and this is the average thru put over a period 
>of six months - their marketing seems to be doing a marvelous job getting 
>customers but their hardware is way overloaded; Not to mention the 
>news is sometimes 48 hours late.  The only advantage I have with PSI 
>is that they charge a flat rate and it is a local call for me. :( 

Is it still $75/quarter year for feeds?  176 cps is crazy, real crazy
(assuming you are using a high speed modem).  Gosh, our v.32bis feeds
are 1500 cps (uucp-g), and turboPep run in the 1900-2000 cps range.

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Update on SAS 2.0
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:08:21 GMT

I was talking to Roe Peterson on the phone this weekend. He gave me an
update on the development of SAS, and said it was OK for me to repeat
what he told me. He's been a bit busy to post on it himeslf.

As some of you may know, he's one of the writers of SAS, a STREAMS
implementation of the FAS Async driver for use with non-intelligent
(but FIFO capable) serial ports.

Many people have installed SAS 1.25, and they and many others are awaiting
the promised release 2.0.

Three things have held up development:

- Roe encountered a certain state, not frequently occuring but still
  possible, which could cause SAS to panic its host system. The cause
  has been identified, and the fix has been developed but not yet coded
  or tested.

- He's been waiting to get his hands on a BocaBoard, an inexpensive
  non-intelligent eight-port serial card. This arrived in his hands this
  week (I know, because I was the one who sent the cards to him). Roe
  said if the boards are good, he wants SAS 2.0 to support them.

  (Yes, we know the ports are only RJ-12 (six-pin) connectors, which
  make it difficult to implement both modem control and hardware flow
  control on the same port. Roe said he's considering an Equinox-like
  approach, allowing a user to "steal" pins from other ports.)

- They've been busy as hell on bread-and-butter stuff. You know, the
  work that puts bread and butter on the table...

Hang tough, and don't bug Roe about SAS. He'll be posting it when it's ready.

-- 
 Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: fangchin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chin Fang)
Subject: Re: Preliminary info on ATI "Mach 32" graphics cards
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 20:00:33 GMT

In article <2ACA6695.38EE@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>
>Both boards have integral mice and conventional VGA, refresh rates
>to 76Hz, and are available in 1MB and 2MB versions. It is claimed
^^^^^^^^^^
>to be driver-compatible with earlier ATI cards.
>
Evan, thanks for posting this. 

However, I am not too clear what you meant by 76Hz (as underlined above).
I would like to know at what resolution this 76Hz is reached.

This is important, as by giving me resolution and the refresh rate, I
can back track the highest dot clock that this board provides.

Could you please ask ATI to be more specific?  If the 76Hz refresh rate
is achived at something like 1280x1024 (Wow! :) then the highest dot-clock
of this new ATI Graphics Ultra Pro must have its highest dot-clock arount
140Mhz, AND THAT IS EXCELLENT!!  The only 17" monitor which deseves this
card would be the fabulous Nanao 560i Trinitron, which has street price
about $1700. 

Gush!  Saving money is hard :)

Look forward to seeing your posts.  Would you please get some pricing
info too?

Regards,

Chin Fang
fangchin@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: dan@dribble.c-mols.siu.edu (Dan Ellison)
Subject: Re: ftp site needed for SCO v3.2.2 binaries
Organization: Southern Illinois University - Carbondale, IL (SIU-C)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:23:25 GMT

In <philipr.717924609@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades) writes:

I maintain a fair collection of usefull programs for SCO UNIX 3.2.x
on dribble.c-mols.siu.edu in the sco-ports directory.  I am not opposed
to putting up binaries for some applications (and I have in fact in
the sco-ports/binaries directory.)  Use ftp for your login and your
email address for a password.  I have not however ported GNU tar as
yet since SCO tar works fine for me B^)

>cooper@plains.NoDak.edu (Jeff Cooper) writes:

>>Does anyone know of any sites that have SCO v3.2.2 binaries?  I'm
>>looking for GNU tar specifically and since I don't have the developers
>>edition of the OS, I need binaries...

>>Thanks for any pointers offered!

>There must be lots of us in this situation - I have been looking for a
>site or info about binaries for ages - biz.sco.binaries is always empty!
>Occasionally, friendly netters will allows ftp access or send a prog but
>this is really not enough.

>>-- 
>>"Life is pain Highness, anyone	|  Jeff Cooper
>>who tells you different is	|  cooper@plains.nodak.edu
>>selling something."		|  NeXTMail: cooper%midkemia@plains.nodak.edu
>>    - The Dread Pirate Roberts	|  (701) 298-0893

>Was it Wesley or DPR?

>-- 
>Philip Rhoades
>First Year Biology
>University of Sydney
>phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU or philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
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