HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Z3MRH@ttacs.ttu.edu (Michael Holmes)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on Cancer treatment
Organization: Texas Tech University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:14:16 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Aug17.082433.20000@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> gjacknow@gmuvax2.gmu.edu writes:

> I am looking for information, preferably very up to date, on the treatment
> of cancer.  Specifically lymphoma.  but any info would be of interest.
> 
> Greg Jacknow
> gjacknow@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
> gjacknow@gmuvax.gmu.edu
> .
> 
> 
	There is a service available in Texas provided by the Texas Cancer
Council (TCC) called Texas Cancer Data Center (TCDC). The information
is provided free of charge, but mostly deals with topics and stats in Texas.
It is an excellent source of statistical information on various cancer topics.

	You can send mail to the system manager for more information about
access outside of Texas.

	CANCER::SYSTEM@RELAY.THE.NET  (or system%cancer.decnet@relay.the.net)
	
	If you are on NSI/HEPnet you can access it by set host...
	set host UTSPAN::UTADNX::CANCER (logon: TCDC)


----
Michael Holmes    BACS Helpdesk    Texas Tech University
z3mrh@ttacs.ttu.edu  holmes@sun1.coe.ttu.edu   ( COBA1::HOLMES  THEnet )
	"If you think no one cares about you, just miss a few car payments"
					--- unknown
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (David W. Tamkin)
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:42:56 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand) wrote in
<1992Aug14.113611.15722@klaava.Helsinki.FI>:

| I'm kinda confused.. do _I_ have to have an account on Genie so that I
| can mail from my internet account to a Genie account?

No, you don't, but the GEnie customer to whom you're writing must have signed
up for the extra-cost option of being able to receive and send Internet mail.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
From: Darla@cup.portal.com (Kuby - Downs)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 22:09:30 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
 r@netcom.com>
  <1992Aug18.132208.23168@homebase.vistachrome.com><zv0ml4d.adamsr@netcom.co
 m> <92231.131111CDF1@psuvm.psu.edu>


=>Suffice it to say that GEnie has a gateway with costs to the GEnie
=>subscriber

Yes, suffice it to say that GEnie's Gateway is OVERPRICED and 
deceptively presented.

Just learning about the gateway results in many downloads from the
PAY Unix board, of which Andy is the sysop.

(::giggle:: Wait till bonnie finds out about the FREE UNLIMITED IRC
Chat!!)

                                Darla
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: more info on WHOIS (was: Re: E-Mail to US Air Force Academy)
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:26:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Aug13.161431.28155@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> peterd@bunyip.com (Peter Deutsch) writes:
>my contact at nic.ddn.mil [wrote:]
>
>>   We discourage the registration of Internet users unless they are 
>> contacts for a network entity.  NSF has stated that they  currently
>> do not wish to support the cost of central registration of users.  [...]

What exactly is the cost of central registration?  Five million entries
of 200 bytes each would occupy just a gigabyte of disk, i.e. one 
reasonable-sized file server (and some CPU cycles from that server
to serve registrations and requests).

>[...]  Certainly there is no hope (or reason) to 
>want to build a resource discovery service based upon such a centralized 
>registry paradigm.

If the data has to be verified then I could see how it might not be
cost-effective to administer the database.  But I don't hear any
complaints about the cost of maintaining usenet-addresses which has
hundreds of thousands of entries and is presumably growing every day.
Non-centralized servers are fine if you know where to ask, but suppose
I'm just wondering if Joe Schmoe (my coworker from five years ago) is
out there on the Internet somewhere, wouldn't a single (and so
naturally central) listing of names be helpful?  Sort of like the
Manhattan White Pages but serving a different kind of community
scattered around the world.  Note that you don't need to guarantee
that all the data in the database is valid, all I need is that the
particular data I want is in there.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: she@elvis.sovusa.com (Serge V. Schevchuk)
Subject: Email-->Fax gateway 
Reply-To: she@elvis.sovusa.com
Organization: ELVIS+ Corp.
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 21:32:33 GMT

We have dezigned a Email-->Fax gateway. We are in Russia.
Does anybody has inerest to this service.
If you are interesting send message with string "help"
to FaxGate@elvis.sovusa.com.
If you have a questions then may post to 
Gatemast@elvis.sovusa.com.

Serge V. Shevchuk
ELVIS+ Corp. Russia.




Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart)
Subject: Re: Accessing BRS via Internet
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:29:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.145553.22678@news.acns.nwu.edu> albright@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric Albright) writes:
>In <11AUG199223244663@zeus.tamu.edu> msw1633@zeus.tamu.edu (Mark S. Whitsitt, N5RJF) writes:
>
>>I called the BRS folks today, as a matter of fact, (tues, 8-11) and the woman 
>>said that they are having a meeting within the company tomorrow to announce this 
>>to the technical support people, and expect to have BRS access via the Internet 
>>for subscribers by the end of August...
>
>>She sounded very excited about it.... or was that a marketing ploy? 
>
>Try telneting to BRS.com  it works already!  I haven't heard an
>announcement but it works.


I had hoped that somewhere in this thread, someone would say
what BRS stands for (is), but that hasn't happened.  So, I 
volunteer to look stupid, so that I, and the rest of the net
ignorant out there, can learn.  What does BRS stand for?
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:25:53 GMT
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt) writes:

>May I respectfully point out that Compuserve does "charge" for reading
>or writing Internet mail.  Once you have exceeded your monthly allowance
>of ($9? Sam Neely should know) you get charged per message and/or per
>hour, depending on your pricing plan option.

If you are being charged by the hour (the "atlernative plan", the messages
*only* cost the time it takes to grab them.. Same as CIS *internal* email.

On the "standard" plan, you pay for sending messages to Cis users *or*
the Internet, at the *same* rate. You do have to pay for reading or 
downloading *incoming* Internet mail (at the same rate). You have the option
of deleting messages unread, in which case they cost nothing.

I'd say that's fair enough. Cis want folks to pay for the mail. But they
are keeping the pricing the same as "internal" mail. Genie is charging
*extra* for Internet mail.
-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/51	 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
From: hopper@cs.ucsd.edu (Steve Hopper)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: telnet to yfn.ysu.edu
Keywords: yfn.ysu.edu
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:54:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego
Originator: hopper@empyrean.ucsd.edu


In a previous post there was an entry for telnetting to
yfn.ysu.edu for various information and services.  The post
gave a login to enter and this is what I seem to have misplaced.
Does anyone have this info?

thanks,

     Steve
From: njw@cs.city.ac.uk (Nick Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Looking for info on Cancer treatment
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:02:29 GMT
	<1992Aug14.002221.19616@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
	<1992Aug17.082433.20000@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
Organization: /homes/njw/.organization


I don't think the internet provides this as a service. At least, not
for free.

Nick
--
Nick Williams                          E-mail: njw@cs.city.ac.uk (MIME and ATK)
Systems Architecture Research Centre,  Tel: +44 71 477 8551
London, EC1V 0HB                       Fax: +44 71 477 8587
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Internet address book.
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:24:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Aug14.063151.20106@uwm.edu> matthewk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matthew Robert Koster) writes:
>Can anyone out in internet land please tell me if there is a listing
>of everyones internet address and real name.

The closest thing I know of is the usenet-addresses list.  There is a
copy at pit-manager.mit.edu in an anonymous-FTP directory.  It's tens
of megabytes of data, however.  You can also access it through WAIS,
which might be better for your purposes.  I believe there is another
interface to it as well, but I don't know what.

usenet-addresses has the names of people who have posted Usenet news
articles.  So you will soon be included :-).  But this is a fraction of
all the people who have Internet access or can be e-mailed.  Still, it
is the biggest collection of names I've heard of.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: clarkbr@spot.Colorado.EDU (CLARK BRIAN R)
Subject: Re: Accessing BRS via Internet
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:24:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.191118.15024@unixg.ubc.ca> educ@unixg.ubc.ca (Vicki Domansky) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.162935.217@athena.mit.edu> tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart) writes:
>>I had hoped that somewhere in this thread, someone would say
>>what BRS stands for (is), but that hasn't happened.  So, I 
>>volunteer to look stupid, so that I, and the rest of the net
>>ignorant out there, can learn.  What does BRS stand for?
>

   BRS originally stood for Bibliographic Retrieval Services.  Check out Alfred
Glossbrenner's "How to Look It Up Online" for more detailed information.

Brian



-- 
    "Humor is the contemplation of the finite from the point of view of the
    infinite."  - Christian Morgenstern  (1871-1914)

Xref: sparky alt.internet.services:434 misc.legal.computing:1950
From: macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,misc.legal.computing
Subject: Phone book and other CD-ROMs
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:30:05 GMT
Organization: OSF Research Institute

The latest DAK catalogue advertises a 3-CD-ROM set containing phone
numbers for 80+% of US subscribers.  Any chance this will come up on
the net sometime?  How about other CD-ROM services?

Does anyone know what sort of licenses these products run under?  For
instance, is providing query service over the net (as opposed to
copying large chunks) a problem?

	-s
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: cjv553@huxley.anu.edu.au (Christopher JS Vance)
Subject: Re: Aussie Weather GIFS
Originator: cjsv@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au
Organization: Computer Science, University College, UNSW/ADFA, Canberra, Australia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:13:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.054011.13770@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs]) writes:
| CS19241653D@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (Matthew GILLARD) writes:
| : I have seen sites posted for US and European weather satellite GIFS.  I was
| : wondering if anyone knows of anywhere where I can find satellite pictures of
| : australia....
| : 
| : 	Thanks in advance,
| 
| Ftp Sites:
| marlin.jcu.edu.au    /JCUMetSat/australialast
|                                /globelast

csc2.anu.edu.au:/pub/pictures/gif/*.gif
From: davison@living.rutgers.edu (Brian D. Davison)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Summary: GEnie can't handle volume => high prices
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:48:22 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug11.130530.24804@nic.umass.edu>, laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Laurel Hellerstein) writes:
> [stuff about GEnie's ridiculous charges deleted]
> 
> >Time to bitch at GEnie managment. If Compu$erve can do this at no-cost,
> >somebody'd better clue them in accordingly.

I asked a couple of friends at GEIS (the people who run GEnie) and
here's what they said:

>>Why is GEnie charging so much?
 
>Because GEnie does not have the capacity to handle what CompuServe
>handles.  Therefore, it overcharges to keep usage down; only the
>true diehards who really want it subscribe, and GEnie can say they
>offer services equal to what CompuServe does;
> 
>Basically, it is a marketing trick.
-- 
Brian D. Davison                    Department of Computer Science
                                    Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
davison@paul.rutgers.edu            Hill Center, 3rd floor, Busch Campus
!rutgers!paul.rutgers.edu!davison   Piscataway, NJ  08855-1179
Xref: sparky alt.internet.services:396 alt.fan.warlord:5430
From: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services,alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: how to do a sig?
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:19:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu

In article <12AUG199210380177@vax> 94fc@vax (CRAWFORD, FRONEFIELD) writes:
>I wonder if someone could either post or email me about how a sig file works.
>Does it only work when you post to a group or does it attach itself to the
>end of any email you send?
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Froney
>
>address: 94fc@williams.edu

You don't need one!

C Squared
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU (LORANGE HANS P)
Subject: Re: how to do a sig?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:42:38 GMT

lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Lyle Lexier) writes:


>Hello Crawford,
>     What you do is create a file called ".signature" .  In this file put a
>message such as the following:
> 
>vi .signature
>==============================================================
>=  I am the captain of the Klingon Fleet - ready to kill the =
>=  enterprise.  Input target please.                         =
>=  94fc@williams.edu                                         =
>==============================================================
 
Lyle,

I have tried this; created a file named .signature but nothing seems to
happen with it.  Where is this file located and do I have to somehow
reference it in my message.  Sorry for my ignorance but....

Thanks,

Hans
-- 
vi .signature
This is a test sig file.  If this had been a real sig file, you would be 
reading some amazingly inventive phrase or quote.
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: matthewk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matthew Robert Koster)
Subject: Internet address book.
Originator: matthewk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:31:51 GMT

Hello,

Can anyone out in internet land please tell me if there is a listing
of everyones internet address and real name.  I know this sound like
a unreal request, but it could be possible.

						Have a nice day,
						Mk...
			
						matthewk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu



-- 
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: maryelen@hfx001.nstn.ns.ca (Mary Ellen )
Subject: STN via Internet - password?
Organization: Industry Science & Technology Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:58:49 GMT

I was just reading this group, and someone gave an Internet address for the 
Science and Technology Network (stnc.cas.org). Unfortunately, my newsreader 
automatically deletes articles after I have read them, so I no longer know 
who it was.

Anyway, I tried telnetting to this site, and it wanted a login ID and a 
password - HELP!!

Thanks in advance
Mary Ellen Foster
MARYELEN @ hfx001.ns.istc.ca
From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: IP in Africa?
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:42:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <1992Aug18.125332.1228@guvax.georgetown.edu>, troberts@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
> Some colleagues are flying out to Cameroun, Central Africa, next month
> to conduct some research at the University of Yaounde, Cameroun.  They
> are taking a PC with them.  Does anyone know if the University of
> Yaounde is hooked up to Internet?  or if there is any way I can find
> out (short of flying out there myself to look over their system)?
>
> Our guest researcher says there is a CS department at UYaounde, but
> knows no one there, and can't say what sort of networking services are
> available.
>
> Any information (IP address, FAQ's, names of gurus) will be immensely
> appreciated.  E-mail responses preferred.
>
> Thank you
> TROBERTS@GUVAX.GEORGETOWN.EDU


Your best bet is to contact  postmaster@cgnet.com
CGNET has a number of sites in Africa.

Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL




Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: stone@bradley.bradley.edu (Steve Stone)
Subject: Re: TELNET sites
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 20:27:45 GMT

In <1992Aug18.194334.11734@sparky.imd.sterling.com> bwalker@IMD.Sterling.COM (Bruce Walker) writes:

>Anyone have a list of TELNET information sites
>(something like the list of ftp anonymous sites).

Gopher, a piece of software for creating a campus-wide
information system, has been very well implemented at
University of Minnesota (where it was written).

To try out gopher, telnet consultant.micro.umn.edu and
logon as "gopher", it shouldn't ask for a password.

Already loaded into the gopher software there are the 
addresses of interesting telnet sites, so it makes the
telnet connections for you to over ??20 cwises, over 30 library
catalogs and unk. additional information services.

If you have an interesting telnet site that you know of,
and it isn't on a gopher, please let a gopher site know,
so it can be made more accessible to the Internet community.

Bradley University is constructing a gopher, so you could mail
me if you don't know where else to send the telneting information.
-- 
Steven A. Stone 			Bradley University  
Electronic Services Librarian		Peoria, Illinois
stone@bradley.bradley.edu 		(309) 677-2839 
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: scoggin@snow-white.ee.udel.edu (John K Scoggin)
Subject: Re: commercial use of Internet 
Keywords: internet imp
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company, Newark
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 13:04:14 GMT

In article <sheth.714353477@walnut.cs.scarolina.edu> sheth@cs.scarolina.edu (Vipul Arun Sheth) writes:
>
>Can a person use Internet for commercial purposes ?
>
	Yes.  One can not use the NSFnet, however.  Many Internet regionals
	have no problem with commerical traffic, so long as it does not
	traverse the NSFnet backbone.  There is a Commercial Internet eXchange
	(CIX) which interconnects some regionals and national commercial 
	Internet providers.  More info on CIX is available via anonymous FTP
	to cix.org.

>If an organization charges its users for Internet access, is it
>commercial or non-commercial ?
>	
	Hmmm.  I would say commercial in general.

>What are the policies regarding use of Internet ?
>	
	Each internet provider has its own policy, so it depends upon the
	method by which you are connected.  When you get an Internet
	connection, the policies are generally agreed upon in the Contract
	for service.

	The NSFnet Acceptable Use Policy is available on nnsc.nsf.net, if
	memory serves...

		- John

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Supervisor, Network Operations			 scoggin@delmarva.com
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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Reply-To: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:44:53 GMT

adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.145033.26289@homebase.vistachrome.com> andy@homebase.vistachrome.com writes:
>>
>>May I respectfully point out that Compuserve does "charge" for reading
>>or writing Internet mail.  Once you have exceeded your monthly allowance
>>of ($9? Sam Neely should know) you get charged per message and/or per
>>hour, depending on your pricing plan option.
>>
>	Now would you like to compare the "monthly allowance" on CI$ (for
>$7.95/mo.) to what you get on GEnie for $4.95+$9.95 (i.e., _0_ pieces of
>email)?

I'll tell you what - I'll join the internet gateway and receive
14,000 pieces of mail a day at no extra cost.  (That is the volume
of news articles through my system at work.)  Of course, if I choose
to send any outgoing mail, I would be charged 40 cents no matter the
size.  

>-- 
>    rick.adams on GEnie   /|\        You are right from your side,        
>     adamsr@netcom.com  /  |  \        And I am right from mine.          
>    adamsr@irie.ais.org \ /|\ /  We're both just one too many mornings,   
>   adamsr@norwich.bitnet  \|/  And a thousand miles behind. (c Bob Dylan) 
-- 
Andrew Finkenstadt       | Vista-Chrome, Inc.   |           andy@GEnie
GEnie Unix Sysop/Manager | The Printing House   |    NIC Handle: AF136
+1 904 222 2639 home     | 1600 Capital Cir SW  |   ...!uunet!rde!andy
+1 904 575 0189 work     | Tallahassee FL 32310 | andy@vistachrome.com
--------->  "Our OS which art in CPU... UNIX be thy name"  <----------
From: tdowling@lib.washington.edu (Thomas Dowling)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: WRONG PHONE NUMBER (Was Re: STN via Internet - password?)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:29:42 GMT
Organization: University of Washington Libraries

In article <1992Aug17.204554.19489@u.washington.edu>, tdowling@lib.washington.edu (Thomas Dowling) writes:
> My note to Mary Ellen bounced back at me in record time, so sorry for 
> the bandwidth.
> 
> STN is a commercial service that requires you to get an account and password
> from them.  You'll also want to study up on their search command language
> (as I mentioned before, I don't search STN, so I don't know what they offer
> to novice searchers).
> 
> The number I have for STN (in North America) is (614) 421-3600.


WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG  My information was outdated--please don't call
the above number (some long-suffering secretary will appreciate it).


The correct (promise!) North American number for setting up STN accounts 
is 1-800-753-4227.


Grovelling apologies for having posted something inaccurate to the Net--
there's a first for everything.

Thomas Dowling
University of Washington Libraries
From: thomson@fluky.mitre.org (Duncan Thomson)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Gateway to Minitel?
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:40:12 GMT
Organization: /home2/fluky/thomson/.organization


Does anyone know how to get from the internet to/from the French
MINITEL network?

(I asked this before but didn't get an answer, so I'm trying one more
time.  Please resond directly by e-mail to duncant@mitre.org)