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From: acs_mn@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Wanted: software to easily extract mail msgs for download, etc.
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:19:01 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

    Has anyone written anything that will make it easier for *extremely
novice* VMS users to extract mail messages, strip off all the network headers
and generally get the file ready to be downloaded?  Anything that helps in the
reverse direction would be useful to: upload a file, encode it or split it
into chunks if necessary and then mail it out?

    A nice screen oriented program that does all this would be really neat
but anything that make this whole process seem like just a simple one-step
process would be useful.

    Right now, faculty and administrative staff that have never had to use our
VMS systems are starting to use email and "the network".  They would like to
compose mail messages on their favorite pc/mac and then send the message or
exchange formatted docs with others via email. The many steps needed to
accomplish what seem like simple tasks (to them) is overwhelming. I'd like to
simplify things if possible but I don't want to re-invent the wheel if someone
else has done this.

    Thanks.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Marlys A. Nelson			System Manager, Systems Programmer,
Academic Computing			Network Manager, etc., etc.
Univ. of WI - River Falls
Internet: Marlys.A.Nelson@uwrf.edu
From: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SCSI CD drive and music
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:36:34 GMT
Reply-To: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <921014151911.3ed2@menvax.restena.lu>, GLOESENER@MENVAX.RESTENA.LU 
writes:
|>
|>We have a SCSI CD drive connected to our VAX 4000/600. This drive has the 
|>capability of playing music CD since theire are "jacks" on it. Does anybody
|>knows how to use a SCSI CD drive for playing music. I have heard that theire
|>is a special driver for this purpose but I don't know which one.
|>

Look for DECW$EXAMPLES:DECW$CDPLAYER.C and read the comments at the start,
though you can ignore the part about loading the driver if you have V5.5-1
or later (I think that was the version).  There's an EXE already linked in
that directory, though you'll have to copy the DECW$CDPLAYER.UID file to
your default directory before running it.  You'll need PHY_IO and DIAGNOSE
privilege to run the program, as well as access to the device (the default
device protection is world-no-access).  Then just define the DECW$CD_PLAYER
logical name to be the disk device name (DKA400 in my case) and run the
program.
--

Steve Lionel                    lionel@quark.enet.dec.com
SDT Languages Group
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, NH 03062
From: mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: How to prevent changing protection of file
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:44:52 GMT
Reply-To: mvbr@se.alcbel.be
Organization: Alcatel Bell Telephone


--
I am trying to find a way to prevent a user from changing the protection of the
files he owns. Ideas ?
I tried playing with CONTROL access, but this does not seem to work.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Marc Verbruggen                 tel : 03.240.94.19
Alcatel Bell Telephone          fax : 03.240.99.50
F. Wellesplein 1                email : mvbr@se.alcbel.be
B-2018 Antwerp
Belgium
 
"System Manager's Headaches Are Not Cured With Aspirin,
 There Is A Better Way ..."
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Remote Printing
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:03:34 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <00961E3A.C36DFC60.19676@nscvax.princeton.edu>, dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather) writes:
> 
> 	You can not, as far as I know, set up a print queue directed to 
> your PC and still be able to use it as a terminal.
> 

There is at least one product which, when I last heard of, was called
"Open Windows" by Salcom Systems (distrib in the UK by 4D systems). Its
main function was to allow the use of multiple windows on a VTxxx terminal
but it also allowed a pseudo terminal device to be created which mapped
to the terminals printer port. To VMS it just looked like any other
serial printer. The local printer could be set up as a VMS print queue
and used at the same time as the screen/keyboard with the driver sending
the appropriate escape sequences to keep everything in order. It worked
well too.
-- 

Alan Greig                            Janet: Alan@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
Dundee Institute of Technology	   Internet: Alan@DCT.AC.UK
Tel: (0382) 308810
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sday@fornax.unm.edu (Stephen F. Day   UNM CIRT)
Subject: RE: Please don't post system management questions to vmsnet.admin
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 17:15:41 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM
Reply-To: sday@ariel.unm.edu

In article <0096163F.7734D420.19516@CSVAX1.UCC.IE>, chris@csvax1.ucc.ie ("J.C. Higgins, Sys Mgr CsVax1, UCC , Eire") writes:
> Erm, Terry.... Little point... There are some of us in netland who
> don't have news.. We are subscribed to the list INFO-VAX, who's brief
> (As far as I can tell) is discussion of the VAX...Which means that
> Sys. Admin comes perfectly into the list of valid topics...
> 
> It is not our problem that our list is fed into your news group.....
> (My use of 'our' is not a claim to ownership...)

Wait a minute...  am I to understand that all the following newsgroups:

		comp.os.vms
		vmsnet.admin
		vmsnet.announce
		vmsnet.announce.newusers
		vmsnet.decus.lugs
		vmsnet.internals
		vmsnet.mail.misc
		vmsnet.mail.pmdf
		vmsnet.networks.misc
		vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
		vmsnet.sources
		vmsnet.sources.d
		vmsnet.tpu
		vmsnet.networks.management.misc
		vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.misc
		vmsnet.sysmgt
		vmsnet.employment
		vmsnet.mail.mx
		vmsnet.misc
		vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
		vmsnet.networks.management.decmcc
		vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.cmu-tek
		vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.wintcp
		vmsnet.pdp-11
		vmsnet.sources.games
		vmsnet.test
		vmsnet.uucp
		vmsnet.networks.desktop.misc
		vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx
		vmsnet.vms-posix

are all fed into the Listserv INFO-VAX??  Well, I know comp.os.vms is,
but the others??  From what I gathered from Terry's post, he was
politely asking that posts in the newsgroup vmsnet.admin regarding
system management be moved to vmsnet.sysmgr (nothing was said about
comp.os.vms).  As was pointed out in Terry's earlier post,
vmsnet.admin is for discussion of the administration of all of the
above vmsnet.* newsgroups (_not_ VMS system administration).  Terry's
request is no different than those I frequently see in VMSLSV-L --
Listservs and newsgroups have a particular mission/theme, and we must
occasionally remind posters of this fact.

BTW, compared to the postings I've seen in other Listservs and
newsgroups, Terry's request was **extremely** polite and courteous!

> J.C. Higgins, Sys Admin  +  If you love something, set it free. If it doesn't
> CHRIS@csvax1.ucc.ie      +  come back to you, hunt it down and KILL it. If
> SCCS6002@iruccvax.ucc.ie +  that doesn't work, then GIVE UP peacefully.

-- 
    Stephen F. Day         (SFD7)  AT&TNET:      (505) 277-8499
    Systems Analyst/Programmer     BITNET/CREN:  SDAY@UNMB
    CIRT-APSYS                     INTERNET:     sday@ariel.UNM.EDU
    University of New Mexico       TECHNET:      UNMSDAY
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
#include <std.disclaimer.h>
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: global section PFN mapped
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:48:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Has anyone a code example to set up a PFNMAP global section.

I don't have any code for this particular case, but it should be just about
the same as for a non-PFNMAP section.

	Preferable not in I/O Space.

Not likely.  Creating a PFNMAP section does NOT reserve the memory you've
mapped.  This is guaranteed to cause you trouble!

				     I need such a section to
	ensure the contents is never write to disk.

No, you don't.  I'm not sure exactly what it is you are trying to do - lock
code into memory for use at high priority levels, prevent paging (but allow
swapping), prevent swapping, or what - but I'm willing to take very high odds
that a PFNMAP section is not the solution.

Why don't you describe just what it is you are trying to accomplish?

							-- Jerry
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Bug in LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:50:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Jim Meinke (jmeinke@dcs.simpact.com) writes:

>I followed this short thread, and another related one: "VMS
>shareable images, what's wrong with them?".  Could someone
>please fill me in on what LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL is useful for?
>I read the manual; it didn't click.

Let me give you an example.  Suppose you wanted to write a program that would 
allow you to pick your preferred editor.  You might include something like the 
following:

C           The string CALLABLE_ was found.  Extract the editor name from the
C           string and look up the entry point in the sharable image.

            estring = mail_edit( index( mail_edit, '_' ) + 1 : )
            CALL str$trim( estring, estring, elen )
            eimage = estring( : elen ) // 'SHR'
            eilen = elen + 3
            estring = estring( : elen ) // '$EDIT'
            elen = elen + 5
            ier = lib$find_image_symbol( eimage( : eilen ), estring( : elen ),
     &                                   entryaddr )
            IF( ier )THEN

C               Call the appropriate editor.  Since some editors destroy the
C               command context, restore it.

                context = 0
                ier1 = lib$find_file( infile, input, context )
                if( .NOT. ier1 )THEN

                    CALL editmessage( %val( entryaddr ), infile, out( : olen ) )

                ELSE

                    CALL editmessage( %val( entryaddr ), ' ', out( : olen ) )

                ENDIF

This is, probably, very similar to how VMS Mail works.

-----------------------------+--------------------------------
 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |           tillman_brian@si.com
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
-----------------------------+--------------------------------
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: QIO SETMODE VT term to 132 columns
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:47:40 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct8.054412.1@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>, daniel@hfrd.dsto.gov.au writes:
>I am attempting to change a VT terminal from 80 to 132 columns using QIO
>SETMODE with the page width set to 132, as with the following C code fragment:
>
>   TermChar.PageWidth = PageWidth;
>
>   status = sys$qiow (0, TTchannel, IO$_SETMODE,
>                      &IOstatus, 0, 0,
>                      &TermChar, sizeof(TermChar), 0, 0, 0, 0);
>
>It changes the page width reported by SHOW TERMINAL alright, but does not move
>from 80 to 132 column mode.  DECterm VT emulation does expand the window to 132
>but does not change to the smaller font as with a SET TERMINAL.  What
>embarrasses me is its probably something so simple!  T/YIA.

The IO$_SETMODE simply changes what the VAX thinks are the terminal
characteristics.  It doesn't do anything to the terminal itself.  If you want
to change the width the terminal's actually using, then you need to send the
appropriate escape sequence.  For VTxxx terminals, the sequences are:
	width_narrow:	<ESC>[?3l
	width_wide:	<ESC>[?3h
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: How do you determine   DECterm != vt300  ?
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:48:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.162840.10120@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com>, schall@swtech06.cfsat.honeywell.com (Loren Schall) writes:
> I'm having a problem distiguishing between a DECterm and a vt340.
> 
> I use the folowing code, in my LOGIN.COM, to determine what kind of
> terminal I'm logging in at.
> 
>     $term = F$GETJPI(0,"TERMINAL")
>     $class = F$GETDVI(term,"DEVCLASS")
>     $type = F$GETDVI(term,"DEVTYPE")
>     $IF class .EQ. %X42
>     $THEN                           ! is a terminal
>     $    IF (type .EQ. %X6E) .OR. (type .EQ. %X71)
>     $    THEN                       ! is VT200 or VT400
> 
>    { sixel graphics stuff }
> 
>     $    ENDIF 
>     $    IF type .EQ. %X70
>     $    THEN                       ! is VT300
> 
>    { DECterm stuff }
> 
>     $    ENDIF
>     $ENDIF
> 
> GETDVI reports a DECterm as a vt300.  The problem is, now, sometimes
> I'm using a vt340.  What's the right way to distinguish between a
> vt300 and a DECterm?

    Add a check for the physical device name:

	PHYDEV = F$GETDVI(term,"TT_PHYDEVNAM")

Then search for "_FT" (DecWindows/Motif) or "_TW" (non-Motif DecWindows)
as the first characters in the string:

     $	IF (F$LOCA("_FT",PHYDEV).EQ.0) .OR. (F$LOCA("_TW",PHYDEV).EQ.0)
     $  THEN
	{DECterm} stuff
     $  ENDIF
-- 
 Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield    |  Internet: Fairfield@Slacvx.Slac.Stanford.Edu
 SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98   |  DECnet:   45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX)
 Stanford, CA   94309        |  BITNET    Fairfield@Slacvx
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: gleeve@galaxy.dnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Remote tape backups, RMT, etc.
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:32:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The remote tape driver (ztdriver) that Wolfgang Moeller did for VMS
is certainly a VMS specific implementation insofar as it looks like
a tape driver. However, it uses the same trick I had used with FDDRIVER
to do remote disk: all actual host to client protocol stuff is in
a USER MODE PROCESS, which then has available ALL user mode facilities.
(There is a small amount of cmkrnl code needed to synch with the driver on
the vms side...). The actual protocols used for the remote tape (or disk,
for that matter, since both are available) can be whatever you care to
use; rmt should be a natural kind of protocol to use given a tcp/ip
net. I started at one time on an asynchronous protocol (wanting at the
time to make part of an IBM AT disk look like extra vms disk storage)
but got side-tracked by "real work" (which, after all, happens at times
:-) to all of us). The beauty is that client and server can both be
processes, not depending strongly on OS, and not depending at all on
the kernel. Given the availability of vms posix, I may look into
this rmtwrite as a spare time hack; I would suggest anyone else could
do the same. The VMS driver end of Herr Moeller's code is exceedingly
robust; some folks at the Rockville office have been beating the heck
out of the code in order to test some of their magtape packages
remotely and been very happy I called it to their attention. A little
known side benefit is that he supplied a pseudo tape that lives in
memory (and could easily become a pseudo tape that lives on disk!)
as part of the package! Some mods to allow ztdriver to be multiunit
appeared on the S92 sig tapes (remotetapeupd.zoo in [.gce92a.net92a])
though the protocol used was the same.
   Thanks much for the pointer to the rmt code; if it will run in a
user mode process (as I suppose it will), it may make an rmt client
literally an evening's work. [TESTING it, of course, might be
rather more...gotta find an rmt server and network... :-) ].
Glenn Everhart
VMS SIG librarian & tapecopy coordinator
Everhart@raxco.com
I/O Plumber

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: CHARZINSKI@nvdv01.ind.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de (JOACHIM CHARZINSKI)
Subject: UCX TNA devices broken?
Organization: University of Stuttgart, IND (FRG)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:12:50 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Hello VMS specialists,

I didn't find an answer on this one in the FAQ lists of comp.os.vms or 
vmsnet.tcp-ip.ucx, nor does the UCX documentation say anything about it:

We're running a VAX-cluster (MV II, 2000, 3200, 3600) here under VMS V5.5, 
using UCX 1.3 for communication with UN*X machines and PCs. 
When someone logs in via telnet or rlogin, our login screen is displayed 
on his (or her) terminal and the usual username/password prompt appears. 
Every now and then, however, we observe the case that everybody getting 
connected to a specific terminal device (today it is TNA68:) does NOT 
receive the login prompt. With PHY_IO priv, I can still write lines to the 
screen affected, but nobody can login when they get connected to this 
device. 
Comparing information on different TNAs (most of them are still ok), 
I found no difference with SHOW DEVICE/FULL TNA68:, SHOW TERMINAL TNA68: 
(the latter command closes the TCP connection when I issue it from a 
priviledged account). The only difference was visible in UCX:
UCX> sh dev bg1310/full            ! this one belongs to TNA68:
gives a line saying 
  Options:  None
and
UCX> sh dev bg1244/full            ! this one is ok
says
  Options:  OOBINLINE
.
Now for the questions:
Is there a way to set the option OOBINLINE manually?
Can I delete a TNA device? These devices disappear automatically after a 
certain time, but as users are complaining, I'd like to speed up this 
process.

Thanks for your patience in reading this stuff, please e-mail the answers 
directly to me, I'll summarize the answers.

Joachim Charzinski
Institute of Communications Switching and Data Technics
University of Stuttgart, Germany
e-mail:
charzinski@nvdv.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.dbp.de
charzinski@ds0ind5.bitnet

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: Re: DECnet for SUN: Info Needed
Organization: GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:37:47 GMT

Bill Gripp (billg@bony1.bony.com) wrote:
: 
: We are interested in getting our VAXes to talk to some Sun workstations.
: Although we have TGV's MultiNet for TCP/IP on the VAX side, we'd like to
: evaluate DECnet, LAT, etc on the Sun side as well.
: 
: Could those of you running DECnet on Sun post or email comments on the 
: product you are currently using?  Ease of use, configuration,
: reliability, bugs, etc.  Whatever you think we should know.
: If there are sufficient responces and interest, I will summarize.

I've been using Sun's Sunlink DNI 7.0 for a couple of years now with
success.  The only problems I've had have been some pretty obscure
ones involving talking to an Ultrix box for mail.  I worked for
several weeks on and off with Sun's DNI engineering people to solve
the problem, resulting in a new release of dnimail.  So, in a
nutshell, I'd highly recommend the Sun DNI 7.0 product.

--
Dave Pascoe
Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com
GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
(617) 455-5704
From: michael@cutler.com (Michael D. Shields)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: What is 1,024 Tera?
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:45:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cutler.1992Oct9.084547.305
Organization: Cutler & Company, Inc., Medford OR (503) 770-9000

In article <718614335.F00003@blkcat.UUCP>, Paul.Robinson@f417.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Robinson) writes:
 
> what is 1024 tera?  And maybe if you know that, you can
>  
> tell what is 1024 of that.

1024 tera = 1 peca
1024 peca = 1 exa

  Michael

Michael D. Shields      |  Internet: michael@cutler.com
Vice President, IS      |  UUCP: ...hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!cutler!michael
Cutler & Company, Inc.  |  Voice: (503) 770-9000
Medford, OR  97504      |  FAX: (503) 779-0006
From: JJONES@HOP.QGRAPH.COM (Pewaukee Prattler)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Setting Symbols Via C Program
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:24:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


    We do symbols, as well as most other system wide login setup via
    an image, albeit written in Macro.

    Hunter Goatley has very useful code to accomplish these kinds of
    things on his FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET.

    Jon Jones                          jjones@nexus.qgraph.com
    Manager, Research & Development    qgraph!jjones
    Quad/Graphics
From: koehler@secs.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: HELP undelete
Date: 13 Oct 1992 15:24:01 GMT
Organization: UCSC Molecular Engineering Laboratory
Reply-To: koehler@secs.ucsc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: moleng.ucsc.edu

Hi -I inadvertantly delted about two weeks worth of C code with the del
command!  I notice that the delete command has the /noerase qualifier as
the default -so my files are still around until written over?
Is there a recovery command or utility to rescue my lost files?
Any help will be much appreciated!
Thanks, Ryan
From: SACKETT@Ubu.CMH.McMaster.CA ("Andrew Sackett, Information Services	X 5150")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Q: LinkWorks: What links have I got??
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I'm new to LinkWorks, and it seems neet.
One problem I have is figuring out what links I have created.


Is there some way I can view a list of sources and targets for links in my
linkbase?  Then I would be able to clean up old links that are no longer
needed.

Suppose I start up the LinkWorks Manager.
I pick my Personal linkbase by double clicking on "Personal" in the Linkbase
column of the Environment Manager window.

Presto! a LinkWorks Linkbase: Personal window comes up.  Great.
Now, If I go to the View menu in the new window, the only option I can pick is
Properties.  	(Asside: what would 'expand' do if I were ever able to activate
		that menu item?)

Now, I see a description of my personal linkbase.  It tells me I have 13 links,
and the linkbase was created on 23-JUN-1992.

What I want to do now is pick some option that lets me see what my 13 links
are.  It's quite possible that some of those are links to/from deleted mail
messages about meetings.  I might want to follow some or delete others, but
without knowing the source and/or target for each link, I won't be able to get
to the proper object to disove the link.

Any help?
Thanks in advance.
Andrew
Andrew B. Sackett		Voice: (416) 521-9800 Ext. 5150	 
Information Services      	  Net: SACKETT@DARWIN.cmh.McMaster.CA
Chedoke McMaster Hospitals
Hamilton, Ontario            I speak only for myself.  I don't know anybody
Canada                       else well enough to speak for them.