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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: LC II with 2 megs memory?
From: andrewb@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Andrew Bevin)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:48:36 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand
Keywords: LCII

Here in New Zealand several Apple Dealers are selling LC's as 2 meg machines.

I assumed that they were selling original LC's, but I checked one out and
it was labeled as an LC II but the finder (version 6.1? ) reported only
2 Megs of memory. 

What gives? Is this an LC relabled as an LCII? 


-- 
Andrew Bevin      			                     andrewb@icl.co.nz
SDC, Fujitsu New Zealand                      ## I do not speak for Fujitsu! ##
Auckland, New Zealand   
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From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Fujitsu 520MB Drive in Modular Mac?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:26:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: delfin.1992Sep29.162642.26750
Reply-To: mark@delfin.com
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale CA

Has anyone used a Fujitsu 520MB drive as a modular Mac (i.e. si, ci, q700)
internal drive? Is overheating a problem?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: SpeedyFinder7 vs. CopyDoubler
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:37:51 GMT

justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:

> > 4) SpeedyFinder shows a strange anomaly in that it takes just as long to
> > fill a 1.3 Mb floppy as it does to fill a 800 Kb floppy! I tried this
> > *four* times to be sure, and each time the same thing happened...
> 
> That is peculiar.. Did you mention this to Victor the Patron Saint of Mac  
> Users? :)

I send him a copy of my write-up, together with a few new bugs I
discovered :-)

> > 5) I also did some quick informal testing with reading and writing to
> > File-Shared volumes over AppleTalk, and the results are again amazing. When
> > you have to copy data to or from a slooooow target you will really
> > appreciate the difference these utilities make...
> 
> This is what I wanted to talk about..
> Did your tests include SpeedyFinder's 'Large Transfers' options? The  
> documentation doesn't really describe what they do, but a little  
> experimentation told me.. :) 

Eh, yes of course. Perhaps I should have made that explicit in the
review. For people unfamiliar with SpeedyFinder: it allows you to
selectively choose whether you want to optimize the copy-operation for
Floppies, for normal copying, and for network transfers.

I thought SpeedyFinder would simply default back to normal Finder
behaviour if you don't turn these options on...

> I noticed a lot of peculiar similarities in the configuration panels
> between the two programs. 

You're losing me here. Both interfaces are spartan, yes, but other than
that vague characteristic they have nothing whatsoever in common, I 
think...

> See what I mean? Atrocious interfaces discourage the well-heeled user.
> SpeedyFinder isn't 'butt-ugly' like CopyDoubler, though..

Well, if CopyDoubler had been *really* much better then SpeedyFinder, I 
would have welcomed it, ugly interface and all, with open arms.
But when the differences are otherwise not so large, interface indeed
becomes a factor...

> I wish there were more informative, objective commentaries and
> comparisons around, 

So do I, so do I...
-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Type 1 error
From: $ennsnr@brandonu.ca (Neil Enns)
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:28:22 CST
Organization: Brandon University

In article <3895@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, wpedigo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Walter R. Pedigo) writes:
> This is most likely an FAQ, but I can't find the answer... I get
> 
> 	The application XXXXXXXXXX has unexpectedly quit due to
> 	a type 1 error...
> 
> My question... Whatintheworldisa"type1"!!!!!
> 
> advTHANKSance
> 
> 
> -- 
>      /\          But Pooh went into a corner of the room and said proudly
>     / /\/\       to himself, "Impossible without ME!  That sort of Bear."
>  /\/\   \ \/\                                   * The Tao of Pooh *
>   Mt. Disclaimer            wpedigo@copper.denver.colorado.edu

A type 1 error usually means that the application has sounds or graphics that
are not compatible with System 7.

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From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Time distribution from Unix
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 18:03:27 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

galko@trix.genie.uottawa.ca (Peter Galko) writes:

>Does anyone happen to know of any utility that exists for the Mac that
>would allow me to periodically correct the time on my Mac from our Unix
>machines (or other network sources).

David Hornsby's Timelord/tardis sounds like what you're after. You can run
the server on a Mac, or on a UNIX box in conjunction with CAP (I think;
never did it myself, I use the Mac-based server). Check archie to find the
anonymous ftp site nearest you.

___________________________________________________________________________
Stephan Somogyi                 conspiracy theorist                 MacUser
From: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,bit.listserv.mac-l,maus.sys.mac,fido.ger.mac
Subject: Need Infos about FDDI-boards for the Apple MAC - Urgent
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:21:40 GMT
Organization: IKE



    Hey,

    I am looking for a FDDI-board for the Apple Macintosh.
    Have somebody any informations concerning to this, please
    mail me your informations !


    Thanks for your efforts,

       Oliver
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: AppleTalk bus error
From: peake@uncavx.unca.edu
Date: 3 Oct 92 06:26:57 -0500
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: rcrisp

Hi,

I'm having a problem at startup with a IIci. Out of the blue, it has begun to
bomb just after the AppleTalk chooser extension is supposed to load. I get an
error message reading, "AppleTalk bus error."

I figured the AppleTalk chooser extension was corrupted, so I installed a new
one and rebooted. Kerblam -- bomb just after the desktop appears. Also, none of
the inits after AppleTalk extension have time to load before the bomb.

Could someone steer me toward possible solutions? Email is welcome.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Steve Peake
peake@uncavx.unca.edu
peake@unca.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sterling@crash.cts.com (Mike Sterling)
Subject: Full Metal Mac
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:41:59 GMT

I was wondering if anyone has played Full Metal Mac, or has seen
anything about it.  I would greatly appreciate any information that
you might have.



Thnaks,


Mike Sterling
From: dana@are.Berkeley.EDU (Dana E. Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Chicago font disappeared
Date: 28 Sep 1992 15:52:20 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu

Restarting has fixed things so that window titles are now back to
Chicago, I still wonder why it did that though.
-- 
Dana E. Keil           Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics
dana@are.Berkeley.EDU                 University of California, Berkeley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Subject: WANTED: Source for System 6.0.8L
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:37:34 GMT

Subject line says it all really!

Thanks

Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: Free Copy: Sys 7.1 (from 7.0)
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:20:47 GMT


 -> A friend of mine just got a free copy of the Sys 7.1 upgrade from a
 -> local computer store (on 1 HD floppy disk, copied from the Mac in
 -> the store).  All she showed to the store sales people were the
 -> original Sys 7.0 disks.

 -> Is it available this way elsewhere?  It is not too bad.

7.1 doesn't come out until October 19, and it will *definitely* not be
on just one floppy. What you're probably speaking of is System-7
tune-up, which *does* come on one floppy, *is* shipping, and *does* not
cost.

--Helen
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From: short@microcom.com (Todd Short)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: A treatise on 7.1
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:29:56 GMT
Reply-To: short@microcom.com
Organization: Microcom, Inc.

In article YekgDh600Vp3IOBbF1@andrew.cmu.edu, fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat) writes:
>ACCCKKKK
>no that's not how the 640k barrier works!!!
>explaining:
>dos doesn't let you access more than 640k, PERIOD (including dos)

NOT! The 8088 has access to 1024 K (1 Meg of memory), the typical DOS
system has 640K RAM, 96K for Video RAM (actually more, only 96K is mapped),
32K for Video ROM, 14K for Disk ROM and 64K for ROM BIOS, lets, see:
640K + 96K + 32K + 14K + 64K = 846K which seems much more than 640K.
Maybe you're talking about Physical RAM, then of course theres EXPANDED
memory (which was a HARDWARE solution!
 
>to get more you have to run a memory manager

NOT! There are DOS extenders build into programs. One example is Phar-Lap's.
Which allows a program on a '286 or '386, WITHOUT a memory manager to use
as much memory to get it's hands on.

>dos doesn't let you multitask and is non re-entrant PERIOD

DOS lets you multitask, but you need Windows or DESQview. So you 
can't say 'PERIOD'.

>to get multitasking you have to run a multitasker
>both of these systems hack out of dos's design and use calls to the
>chip itself

What chip?  What calls?  The only 'calls' you can make are DOS kernel, or
the ROM BIOS. Maybe access the hardware, yes, but let's see a Memory manager
or Multi-tasker rewrite DOS and the ROM BIOS (w/ the exception of OS/2). 
Multitasker's to make BIOS and DOS calls, it's just that they do it VERY
CAREFULLY! They trap calls to DOS/BIOS, if another program is using it, that
task has to wait.

>so:
>
>dos, no memory manager, no multitasker - you run one task in slightly
>less than 640k - it's just like having a VERY fast 8088

See the note about the Phar-Lap Dos extender above.

>dos, memory manager, no multitasker - you run one task in slightly
>less than the amount of memory you have in the computer

I have a DOS communications program that can download, while I run another
DOS program.  Without DESQview/Windows. 

>dos, no memory manager, multitasker - this is technically possible,
>but i'd like to see someone do it (actually, some apps come to mind)

DESQview technically doesn't require a memory manager.

>dos, memory manager, multitasker - however many apps as your os can
>handle, each taking as much of your memory as it needs (can be > 640k
>each) and the total allowed is the total memory in your machine

Currently we have a DESQview machine set up here to run multiple protected
mode applications.  Each application takes up over a megabyte...

>os/2 - no worries

Definately!  It rewrites the BIOS and the DOS calls that DOS programs
wrote.  Here's something that OS/2 can do awesomely:

Copy two disks in two different drives while still running another app 
(or two, three...)!
---
-Todd
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: lardieri@princeton.edu (Stephen Lardieri)
Subject: Sys7 filesharing - who's connected?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:26:46 GMT

Is there a way for a program running under System 7 with filesharing
to find out who is connected?  The file sharing monitor doesn't say
enough -- i.e., it doesn't say what time a person connected, or how
long a connection has been idle, or what zone/node the person is
connected from.  This is especially important for "guest" logins.
Is there a table that can be accessed somehow (i.e. the same one that
File Sharing Monitor accesses)?  Better yet, is there a way to
receive an event that a person has connected to the machine?
Please note that I am specifically referring to filesharing here, not
program linking.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gudmund@itek.norut.no (Gudmundur Joekulsson)
Subject: Virtual screen for a mac SE
Reply-To: gudmund@itek.norut.no (Gudmundur Joekulsson)
Organization: FORUT Information Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:05:01 GMT



Hey,

Can anyone point me to a way of running a program written for
a mac-portable with a wide screen, on a mac SE.
I have heard of some kind of a virtual screen one could scroll
around in to see the different parts of the biger applications
screen.

any suggestions ....


gudmundur

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: "Why I hate System 7..."
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:48:36 GMT

jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong) writes:
: 
: 2.3mb for the system software? Yikes.  I'm curious as to what you've got
: installed to make it eat so much memory.  Gee, and I thought my
: collection of inits and control panels was ridiculous.

You think 2.3 MB is a lot? I live with a system that takes 3.8 MB ...

/Mats
-- 
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Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.games.video,rec.games.video.arcade
From: Pete Kelly <pfkelly@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: What's a good futuristic name for a Mac Duo?
X-Xxdate: Sat, 3 Oct 92 19:54:36 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 18:48:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.040141.2075@netcom.com> Brian Kendig,
bskendig@netcom.com writes:
>I'm musing over what I'd name the computer and the dock (gotta name
>them SOMETHING!).  Are there any spaceships in science fiction or
>video games that can "dock" with another unit to become more powerful?

Hate to prolong this in a Technical Area thread but...

Actually the Star Trek Enterprise (Next Generation Model at least)
consists of the detachable Saucer Section and the Stardrive Section.  

You're signature shows you're a Starfleet Captain.  A good captain should
have known this.
From: coolidge@sirius.aux.apple.com (John L. Coolidge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: A treatise on 7.1
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:09:05 GMT
Reply-To: coolidge@apple.com
Organization: Open Systems Development, Porting&I/O Group, Apple Computer, Inc.

HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky) writes:
>I would set a goal of selling 30 percent of all the PCs sold in
>the United States by Jan. 1, 1994. I would find a way to meet
>that goal even if it cost me millions in the meantime. Because
>then I'd be ubiquitous and assured of long-term prominence.
>I'd have the best computers and a plethora of customers for
>my world's best operating system. I'd be as big as Microsoft.

Umm, Apple _does_ sell over 30 percent of all the PCs sold in the
U.S., right now. According to the market numbers I've seen, Apple has
been between 30 and 32 percent of the market since April. The
Performas should push that percentage even higher.

--John

	"Character is what you are in the dark."
		-- Dr. Emilio Lizardo, _Buckaroo_Banzai_

+++John L. Coolidge++++++++++++++++coolidge@apple.com+++++++++++++++++++++++
I speak for myself, not for Apple Computer. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
Copying allowed only if attributed, and if all copies may be further copied.
From: roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Suppose Apple does charge for System 7.1...
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:40:30 GMT
Organization: Public Health Research Institute (New York)

Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:
>In fact, charging for it *may* make it _more_ widely used.  There are many
>sites, mostly corporate and educational, where "unless you have to buy it from
>a dealer, it's either no good, pirated, virus-ridden, or all three" is the
>credo.

	Anybody who really wanted to pay for System 7, could very easily do
so.  I believe for $99, you got a complete set of disks, manuals, and some
number of months of free telephone tech support.  I never availed myself of
the tech support, but I did buy one copy just to have the complete manual
set.

> At Ohio State, there's at least one department where they insist on
> buying their anti-virus utilities; when I mentioned Disinfectant, all I
> got was a closed-minded "Oh, no, we don't dare use anything that's
> freely available.  It can't be any good."

	What really gets me are the people who insist on using SAM because
it's a commercially available product (and thus inherently superior to
Disinfectant), but who are too cheap to pay for it, so they are running
pirated copies (which, of course, means they don't get the updates).  It's
amazing, give people a chance, and they'll find a way to be both stupid and
dishonest at the same time!
-- 
roy@wombat.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, USA
"This never happened to Bart Simpson."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: David C. Roessli <roessli@sc2a.unige.ch>
Subject: NW4Mac, EtherPrints and PCs = print probs
X-Xxdate: Mon, 5 Oct 92 09:36:04 GMT
Organization: Dpt. Anthropology, U of Geneva, Switzerland
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:36:22 GMT

Hello world, 
[i've tried posting this to c.s.novell, but didn't receive
any answers... so i'm trying here.]

We've just upgraded from NetWare 2.15c to 3.11, (+NW4Mac 3.01)and 
have encountered a few problems with ATPS.. which are:

2 local HP LaserJet III, w/AT interface are hooked up to our net
by Dayna's EtherPrints(1.6). The 2 printers are clearly visible from the
Macs (running 7.0.1, TU 1.1.1) through the Chooser (7.1). BUT they
remain completely invisible to ATCON.... (Novell's AppleTalk Console)

I wanted to enable to PC users to print on them, so i created 2 queues
with PCONSOLE, which worked, but when ATPS loads, it just cannot find
them 2 printers.. ATPS generates:

	Can't find <LaboImage DAE@LaserWriter:*>, retrying ...
	
Now I've tried specifying, the queues in all different manners, w/o success..

The ATPS.CFG looks like:

	"LaboImage DAE:Acacias" -o LABOIMAGE:NOVELL -Wf

I tried specifying the queues in all possible manners w/o success.
	
The EtherPrint manual seemed to indicate that a router problem might be
the cause, but what bothers me is that ATCON sees all the Mac (WorkStations)
but not these damn printers .. EtherPrints ROMs are v1.6. Version 1.5 bugged
in the sense that it didn't announce itself to NPB lookups, but no 
bugs are reported with v1.6 (or am I wrong ?) I think current version is 1.7
(would it help to upgrade ?)

Now, EtherPrint is compatible with HP  LJ III (the macs can actually print on
them directly!!), EtherPrint claims to be NetWare compatible too, so remains
the HPs - but NW for Mac mentions the LaserWriter-compatible printers are okay,
so what else ? 

Has anybody experienced similar problems ? Hints, ideas, comments welcome..

Regards from rainy Geneva :-(

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From: rkirk@alcor.concordia.ca ( ROBERT KIRK )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Boot disk for old 512K mac
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:56:23 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

My friend just got an old 512K mac but it did not have a boot disk with it.
Can we buy a boot disk at a store or are they completely unavailable at the retail level? If so, would someone be kind enough to be able to send us a copy of one for a nominal fee? Thanks. Please reply to the following address:

	rkirk@alcor.concordia.ca.

Chris Normandeau
 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:12414 comp.sys.mac.apps:15155
From: pfkelly@bnr.ca (Pete Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: ARA, do I need two copies to connect two Macs?
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:12:23 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 05:18:29 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

In article <1992Sep29.153223.14260@athena.mit.edu> Roger A Roach,
rar@athena.mit.edu writes:
>According to the license agreement that I got with ARA:
>
>"This License allows you to make up to a maximum number of three copies
of the
>Apple Software for use on Apple computers owned and/or operated by you. 
In
>addition, you may also make one copy of the Apple Software in
machine-readable
>form for backup purposes only."
>
>That sounds pretty clear to me.
>
>Roger Roach
>MIT IS Operations & Systems

That's my point. If your COMPANY owns both the machines and the software
can they redistribute the unused licenses to other employees ?
From: krash@syncline.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Richard Krasner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: NeXT to Word EPS
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:15:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Sep29.211521.18818
Reply-To: krash@syncline.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Richard Krasner)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I use a NeXT at work and have several applications that create EPS files.   
I've tried downloading an EPS file and then opening it in Word5.0a.  The  
file downloads sucessfully and Word appears to open it, but all I get at  
the end is the header.  The file size is large - indicating that there  
should be more their, but when I print, only the header prints.  The  
header states what application created the EPS file (e.g. NXYPlot on the  
NeXT) but that is all that there is.  Is there some utility out there that  
will convert from one computer platform EPS format to the Mac EPS format?
I thought that EPS was universal.  Word says it is reading in the file as  
EPS, but I can not view it in Word, nor will it print to the Personal  
LaserWriter.

Thanks, Krash!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system