HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Problems with the 'Ol Sport
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:34:54 GMT

In article <txd.723916746@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
|
|Probably not the most
|rational decision, but then again, it is a second bike... It *that*
|rational?

What?  A couple articles ago, you described your Concours as "better than
no bike at all, I guess".  Doesn't sound like a "first" bike to me.

Traitor. 

:-)

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Terry.Baldridge@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge)
Subject: Re: Fun
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:35:34 GMT

Today is the first day in a week or so that I have been able to 
ride.  All I can say it: I love the smell of the DoD minimum speed
first thing in the morning!!!

terry
--
terry.baldridge@launchpad.unc.edu   ---   xp2729@lsuvm.sncc.lsu.edu
                BMW: The Ultimate RIDING Machine

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Yikes, snow!
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:58:42 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Get a moped!! Tiny bikes are fun in snow. Trust me.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: DOD grants political asylum?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 03:14:26 GMT

In article <1g8h2nINN4q1@agate.berkeley.edu> delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:
>
>In article <k21701.723975949@kyyppari> k21701@kyyppari.hkkk.fi (Teppo Nieminen) writes:
>>If these measures become a law, maybe I should apply the DoD for a
>>political asylum.
>>
>>Be afraid...be very afraid.
>>
>>Teppo Nieminen
>>DoD #2000
>>Kawasaki KZ 750
>>k21701@kyyppari.hkkk.fi
>>
>
>Alright, now who is going to be in charge of writing the DOD FAQ for the rules
>of granting political asylum to members. Will we still shelter them if
>they don't observe the DOD minimum? Can Fischer-Price luggage be brought
>in? Is there duty on LLamas? Do they have to buy any key fobs first?
>I don't know...this could blow our non-organization status all to hell

More to the point, before any offers of asylum they would have to ride
ofe one of the official DoD bikes, the FJ1200 or the PD, with bonus points
if they ride one of the pretty green PD's, Blaine G. notwithstanding :-P


Ride Free,

Bill 
________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC 
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 3 
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

There are many paths to truth.  Don't die choosing.
                                                      Zen Graffiti
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Durability
Keywords: why
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:04:58 GMT

In article <5068@equinox.unr.edu> edh@wheeler.unr.edu (Ed Hackett) writes:
>I think that the two main reasons for the life most people see out
>of a vehicle are improper maintainance and the fact that the
>vehicles are engineered for a finite life span.  It has been been
>pointed out by another poster that most manufacturers don't want
>their vehicles to last forever.  They need to sell you a new one.

Well, if the AMC/Renault joint venture was still in place, maybe
this would apply.... :')

I've had this conversation several times in the past week.  Once, with
a secretary who's convinced a new car is required every two years and
a fellow engineer who's working on the second 100k miles on his old
Chevy Nova.  Last night with my wife, who keeps telling me that
as soon as we get the van paid off, I'm entitled to the next new vehicle.
By contrast, I grew up in a home where my dad kept a '58 Hillman Super Minx
running up to nearly 250,000 miles, before the engine siezed and he got
$25 from a kid who wanted to learn to work on cars...  I figure when my
'86 Renault turns 100k next spring, I'll invest $1k into drive axles,
new brakes (still on the original disk pads and second set of shoes),
struts and shocks, an 02 sensor, and a new interior light switch.
Then I'll be ready for another 50k miles, and when the van is paid off,
I know where I can pick up a flawless used Rbike or Guzzi for under $3k...
(Hey, she didn't say new car, she said new vehicle, and a bike's cheaper
than an airplane...)
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: living to really flame! catching the tank on fire...
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:15:40 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

pubs1@plx.com (Temporary Technical Writer) writes:

>Lee Steele AKA Dude Shade    DoD 503    85 Looowwwww  Rider
>Disclaimer: My employer doesn't know I'm that stupid. Ssshhh.
>:wq
>
>
>:q
>p
>:q
>A
>
>A
>A

Maybe not yet, but if they see you trying to quit out
of the editor they'll catch on real quick!!!

8-)
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bike hire in the USA
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> Also how old must you be, what driving license will be needed (i.e is
-> a full UK license suitable) and what is the deal on insurance.

 As long as your UK license is valid and good for motorcycles (or
doesn't require a motorcycle endorsement or separate license) you're OK
in the US.  If your license expires while you're here you should still
be OK; obviously you can't just ride down to Her Majesty's local
bureaucratic official in East Jesus, West Virginia.

 Your Brit insurance is probably no good in the US.  See if you can get
it temporarily suspended while you're out of the country - no need to
pay for it if you're not there.

 You'll probably get raped for US insurance, as you have "no previous
insurance record" (a favorite rate-raiser).  You will probably also be
socked for a membership fee, paperwork fee, or other abuse the first
time you buy insurance.  You may have to slam the insurance agent's head
against the wall to get them to accept your Brit license - it'd be a
good idea to bring a copy of your Brit insurance along, maybe it can get
you out from the "no previous insurance" rip.

 You will probably have to buy your insurance in a three or six month
block; you may or may not get it refunded if you leave before it's up.

 Rates vary *MASSIVELY* with location!  In some places, being within the
             ^^^^^^^^^
limits of, say, Memphis, will double your rate as opposed to a residence
in the county; rates in nearby Mississippi and Arkansas can be cheaper
yet.  You can rent a post office box in a smaller town as an official
address; when the insurance company wants to know exactly where you will
be, just tell them you'll be touring or moving around a lot; you're
visiting after all.

 Insurance regulations and rates vary crazily from company to company
and state by state; don't take anything for granted!  Sometimes you can
get a cheaper rate by being added on as a rider to someone else's
policy or being sponsored by them; this type of stuff can be rather
complex.

 And remember:  When the Revolution comes, we shoot the insurance agents
first, THEN the lawyers...

=======================================================================
can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
=======================================================================
                                                          
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:26:07 GMT

In article <1gt6phINNljo@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>Yeah!! Is it a front loader? back loader? strapless? what percentage
>is lace? color? make? model? type material? is it 'sheer'? see through?
>*gawd* I feel the urge for a cold shower!! ;-)

HEY!! In case you didn't know, ISU is acting in loco parentis and your posts 
are violating the current Computation Center Policy Against Any Material That
May Be Deemed Offensive To Any Idiot Anywhere And Result In ISU Being Sued
For Some Stupid But Eminently Reasonable (to a crat with nothing better to do)
Justification By Said Idiot.  

So cool it and disguise it as a bid for blackmail material and I'll be able
to read it on the Macs in my lab.

Highest bid seen by me is $@ .  Do I get it or what?

CP "Plausibly Deniable Intelligence" Tomes
hey, i just did a CIA pun!!  pbpbpbththttttt!! NSA sucks gag choke.....
#@%$#$^*(*>>WEG[]]]dg[.
terminated at send site

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: espen@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no (Epsonasjen)
Subject: Re: New to the Moto List
Keywords: Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Organization: SINTEF
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:28:41 GMT

>
>In article <1992Dec15.063640.13232@Virginia.EDU>, tjr2g@Virginia.EDU ("!!! Cosmic Charlie") writes:
>|> Hi everyone.  My name is Tim Richter and I am new to this net
>|> and haven't used one before.  I just have a question.  What is
>|> DoD?  What does it stand for if it is a Abbreviation?  Thanks
>
>
>My Turn!  My Turn!!
>
>"We could tell you, but we'd have to kill you" (tm)
>

And mine.......!!!!!   (at last...)

"And then we will steal your bike(s)"    (c)


Pssssst! Read the DoD FAQ.
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? =8-0

Espen Olsen				*       The future's so bright
Norwegian Inst. of Technology		*       I gotta wear shades
N-7034 Trondheim                        *       (Timbuk3)
E-mail: espen@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no	*	'57 Speed Twin
packet: LA6MGA@LA1K			*	DoD#7962
						
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Sport Bikes
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:11:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.053106.13738@microsoft.com> chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:
|
|WOW !!!11!1!  DREW YOUR RELLY SMART 1!!!!!!!!111  HOW DID YOU NO HE MENT SPOUT NOT SPORT !!!1??/??  I CUDNT TELL 1!!!!!
|
|WELL GOTTA GO
|
|SEND REPLYZ TO BIFF@BIFNET.BIF.NET !!!!!!!!1  C YA !!!!!!!!!
|
|QUIT
|:Q
|BIFF@WPI.WPI.WPI.WPI.EDU          BIFF LIVEZ !!!!!!!!      BIFF_MEISTER@CUP.PORTAL.COM
|**************************************************************************************


You know, Chris, people who forge postings that badly are just an embarassment...

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Did the EC hp-limit pass ?
Keywords: horsepower
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:38:24 GMT

In article <43P9X5V@netmbx.netmbx.de> fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer) writes:
}According to my informations the European Wide HP Limit On Motorcycle will
}begin 1st of August. No bikes will be homologated with more than 100 hp
}after that date.		       ^^^^^^^^^^^

Now, my dictionary sez that to "homologate" means to have a government or
authority "confirm some aspect of" performance of an "aircraft, automobile,"
etc. So that just means that no EC government (nor the EC proper) will
confirm, if asked, that any particular bike develops over 100 hp. What's
wrong with that?

[OK, OK, so I used the 4th definition, and the main definition is in 
essence "approved". So why the hell didn't you use the word "approved"
in the first place so those of us with relatives still living in trailer
parks could understand?]
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: AMA Rule Change
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:38:35 GMT

The AMA Rule Book stated that all AMA events must be open
to all AMA members.

The AMA congress realizes that the nature of AMA Chartered
Clubs has been changing over the years,  Now there are BMW
Clubs, H.O.G. Chapters, etc., etc.  So they recently voted
to change this rule so that a Marque club can hold an
"invitation only" event.

____________________________________________________________________________
		Earth: The insane asylum of the Universe
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Noise-cancelling headphones (was Re: Neat AGV helmet...)
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:37:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.225625.12371@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>[responses to my post about Sennheiser active noise-cancelling headphones]
>
>I haven't figured out the complete algorithm, by any means, but I sense
>that it is relatively simple, considering the nearly non-existent
>electronics.  It's obviously something about delaying the steady-state
>signal for half a wavelength, so that a 180 degree out-of-phase
>relationship is established.  Impulsive sounds are passed through.

So that means that if Mr. Officer pulls you over and says "Oink!"
you'll hear him, whereas if he says:
"Oiiiinnnnnnnnkkkkkkkk" all you'll hear is: "Oiin....." as the
headphones decide that he's noise?



--
  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
      "Archiving the net is like washing toilet paper!"- Leader Kibo
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 93 Honda CBR900RR Recall
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:34:08 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
]Someone gave me an undated, single page photocopy of the motorcycle section
]of some federal safety recall magazine.  I was told it came from the current
]month's issue.  Since the recall was on 1993 cycle and this is still 1992,
]I assumed the information might still be useful.

you trusting 'tude keeper you...

]Funny how the BMW and ZX1100 gang sent me thank you mail.  Looks like
]the CBR900RR crowd may suffer from SDS.

thanks seth, I'm glad you saw my post as the thanks that it was.

]As for the lameness of selling 1993 cycles in January of 1992...
]If they brought them out "early" to catch the 1992 season, that makes 
]them 1992 models in my book.  People that are swayed by the allure of 
]"next years model," 

so true...

-- 
Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org           aDoF#?                Austin, TX

    'When I asked Unix to make the witches burn I got:
         mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
         Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards.' -- Jerry Dunham
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: Goldwings are darned interesting motorcycles
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Distribution: na
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:43:47

In article <foo> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
   hey can you also use [GPS] boxes to find out what time it is?

Yes -- unless .01 microsecond isn't accurate enough for you!  As a side
effect of knowing where you are to within 3m, they need to know what
time it is to within .01 usec, the speed of light being what it is.
Derated commercial versions probably only know to the microsecond. 
Too bad. :-(

--
DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list)
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:43:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.193704.4602@exu.ericsson.se> lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos) writes:
>
>The only time I will be excited about a helmet is if it has "active noise
>reduction", reducing wind noise by say 40 db. A helmet that doesn't 
>need ear plugs!
>And when they have made plenty of money on that design they can adapt the
>active noise reduction system to all these 'straight through' exhausts.

I can still hear horns and sirens (and bells, occasionally) thourgh my 
earplugs, but they'd have to make the noise canceller do the same before I'd
buy one. Hey, how about an adaptive filter of the type that gets trained when
you have noise only (so you don't cancel out the 'signal') that generates
the noise reference to feed into the canceller? C'mon you DSP gurus, do 
something useful!

Did you say something, officer?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: 1978 2 stroke engines
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:30:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.210113.13364@Virginia.EDU> dtk2s@Virginia.EDU ("Daniel T. Kepler") writes:
>A friend of mine is selling a 1978 Kawasaki 2 stroke 400 with
>9,000 miles.  I know very little about motorcycles with 2
>stroke engines.  Are these bikes easy to care for (engine wise)
>or are they more difficult?

They're quite easy to work on, except for the ignition systems that
have three(!) sets of points.  The '78 S3 probably has an electronic
ignition though, if it does you won't have to worry about points.

>  How well do 2 stroke engines run
>as compared to standard engines.

Depends on how you define "run"... they make more power (usually) that
equivalent-sized four-strokes, and (usually) require service sooner, although
that service is (usually) cheaper than what you have to do to four-strokes
when you service them.  And you can (usually) do it yourself; my first S3
was my introduction to motorcycle mechanics.

>  The asking price is $450, so
>am I crazy for not buying the bike right away?

I've had two S3s, a '74 that needed paint that I bought in '77 for $380
and a '74 (or '75, can't remember) that I bought in '83 or so for $400.
The S3's aren't real 'collector' bikes, yet, even though they were
supposed to have the best handling of the Kawasaki triple line.

The S3s I had got about 35 mpg, would cruise at 75 (but at 6500
rpms!) and smoked a fair amount (two-strokes burn oil with the gas,
S3's and most other street two-strokes have an oil pump that injects
a metered amount of oil into the intake tract).  I wouldn't want
to use one for long distance rides too often, at least not now
after I've done it. :-)

They're nice bikes, but unles you really want one, or it's in totally
awesome shape, $450 isn't a price to get excited about.  It's not
bad, it's just not especially good.

Possible problems with this bike:
-exaust system rust, hard to fix and used exaust systems are
 hard to find but aftermarket ones are still available.
-oil line cracking, easy to fix, but keep watch on them, if there's
 air bubbles in an oil line you need to get a new one, or make one.
-plug fouling, well, it's a two-stroke... They have a cute little
 spare-plug holder under the seat for a reason. :-)
 Don't ever turn the choke on when the engine's warmed up either.



--
  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
      "Archiving the net is like washing toilet paper!"- Leader Kibo
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: pearsd@rs6308.ecs.rpi.edu (David Thomas Pearson)
Subject: 1972 PENTON ENGINE WANTED
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:10:54 GMT

I am the proud owner of a 1970-72 Penton 125cc enduro bike.  This bike is older
than I am, but is a great machine.  The Sachs motor runs like a four stroke,
and is easier to ride than any other machine that I have used.  The only
problem is that I broke the selector shaft a couple years back.  I replaced it,
but it now finds a nuetral between every gear. I have heard that this was 
always a problem with these motors.  Is there any way to fix this, or does 
anyone have a motor that they would like to sell.  Either the 125 or 250cc
Sachs motor should fit into my frame.

Dave Pearson
pearsd@rpi.edu

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: hart@cheshire (James A. Hart)
Subject: Re: baja 1000
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 01:29:21 GMT

rel@bonedust.id.macsch.com () writes:
: In article <1992Dec15.133326.19336@ge-dab.GE.COM>, jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski) writes:
: |> What's the deal with the winner of Baja? According to Cycle News, a bike
: |> won the overall, according to ESPN it was the Ford guys (glad I got both).
: |> The latest CN (letters section) once again noted that the bike won 
: |> overall so what's up with ESPN? Do they have a hard time believing 
(deleted)
: |> I'll post the same article to wreck.autos.sport to see what kind of info
: |> they got (don't worry, I'll try not to start another war of "our bikes
: |> beat your cages...nahnah,nahnahnah").
: |> 
: |> Jerry S.
: 
: The bike classes are started early so that they can complete the course
: before the larger vehicles.  This is done for safety reasons.  They do
: not want the bikes and larger vehicles on the course at the same time.
: 
: I'm not sure why the bike classes are usually reported separately from
: the other classes.
: 
:                        - Rob
--
I always thought they started the bikes first so that there would be plenty
of time to get the injured bikers back before the trucks came through! 8-).
Those booby traps set by sadistic onlookers out for a thrill were a bitch!
Bad enough in our buggies, I'm glad I didn't have to be out on the course
first!
Name:        Jim Hart    N6JSS
InterNet:    hart@donald.etdesg.TRW.COM 
                         I'd rather be LANDSAILING!
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:21:34 GMT
Subject: Landuse Mailing List
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA