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From: jag2@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Gatto)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: yet another INFP
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:23:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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In article <C004Eq.6Ho@ecf.toronto.edu>, deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert)
 writes:
 
 
>I have a BS in Inorganic (solid state) Chemistry and I'm also going for a second
>BS in computer science. I'm extremely analytical and I've been described by
>some as being the closest thing to a "binar"(ST old generation) that they've
Shown 44%, press <SPACE> for more, 'q' to quit, or 'h' for help
>ever seen. So what am I doing scoring 90% F! We I suppose it's because I believe
 
>that emotions can be factored into logic. After all, it's not logical to hurt
>those you care about. Logic is very important and is never an option (for me),
>but it is a means, not an ends. (How's that for being a T for F reasons:) )
>I suppose your profession of choice is a very poor indicator of your personality
>type.


It's my opinion that XNFPs can fairly readily toggle the NFP
to STJ or any intermediate combination when necessary.(especially
those w/ a technical education because we've been taught th think
to think that way in school and on the job)  In the lab, I
commonly function as an XSTJ because it's conducive to good 
research.  However, in personal interaction I'm definitely an
NFP (greater than 80% INFP)

Just a chemical engineering point of view.  By the way what's
the deal w/ INFPs and chemistry?


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From: slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: Profiles, we need profiles!  Star Trek! (was Re: Hacker Personality...)
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:54:31 GMT
Reply-To: slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662)

In article <1992Dec22.224120.7517@netcom.com>, noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
|> Also, this thread brings up the "need" in this newsgroup for complete
|> profiles of the 16 MBTI types.  Joe Butt has already provided one for,
|> I believe, INTJ, including famous people who appear to have that personality.
-- 
I missed the profile for INTJ and (being one) am very interested.  
If anyone still has it, would you please send to me?  Thanks.

Steve Chesney                                    slc@catherine.cim.cdc.com     
Control Data Corporation                         612-482-4662 (voice)
4290 Fernwood Avenue                             612-482-4001 (fax)
Arden Hills, MN  55112
From: jag2@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Gatto)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Social Conditioning
Date: 28 Dec 1992 05:53:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I'm a definite INFP and my SO is a definite ESTJ.  I'm working on
a PHD in engineering and she works as a counselor for project
Step Up.  It would seem to me that we should just switch 
careers now and be done with it.

What I'ld like to know is how my playing with tinker-toys and
her tea parties with her teddy bear have caused us to make such
errors on our career paths:-)

By the way, my friends do find her a bit uncaring and bossy with
me because she is, and her friends find me quite idealistic and 
emotional because she tells them that i am:-(



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From: westfall@ucs.ubc.ca (Valerie Westfall)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: personality types
Date: 29 Dec 1992 14:05:10 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
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Hi - I'm new to this group and I've been reading about the postings about 
personality types (INFP, etc).  I wanna take the test!!! Was this from a 
book or a posting, or is it some secret code known only to future psychologists?
Please tell me how I can find out more about the personality types - sounds
like fascinating reading for our all-girl gossip get-togethers...

Many thanks.......Valerie
From: fyoung@gssec.bt.co.uk (Fraser Young)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: OK, OK, what are the words?
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:59:02 GMT
	<1god59INN1rs@news.aero.org>
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.

In article <1god59INN1rs@news.aero.org> homeier@aero.org (Peter Homeier) writes:

|>    In article <1992Dec11.040642.17708@ornl.gov>
|> 	      jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Joe Butt) writes:
|>    >Jenny Gutbezahl (jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu) wrote:
|>    >: In article <1992Dec10.234707.9444@netcom.com>
|>    >:            noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
|>    >: >
|>    >: >"Name two English words which are pronounced the same way but have no
|>    >: >letters in common."
|>    >: >
|>    >: 
|>    >: Um, how about "I" and "eye"  or for the less narcissistic "you" and "ewe"
|>    >: 
|>    >I had thought of a third, oh and eau, but that's cheating.  Anyone note
|>    >the long-vowel-sound connection?
|> 
|>    Perhaps I am too oriented towards computers, I came up with "sea" and "C".
|> 
there is a whole class of "words" pronounced the same but having no common
letters:

"one" and "i"
"two" and "ii"
"three" and "iii"
:
"five" and "v"
:
"fifty" and "L"
:
etc.

BTW I can show the Latin derivation of all the above words (perhaps :)

sorry... I couldn't help it ;}

--
Fraser Young  (INTJ)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: Paul.Fortman@launchpad.unc.edu (Paul Fortman)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: Social Conditioning
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:46:00 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1hm4oiINNs6c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jag2@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Gatto) writes:
>
>I'm a definite INFP and my SO is a definite ESTJ.  I'm working on
                ^^^^
Ah, another INFP.  I too am an INFP, but I don't have an SO 8-(

>a PHD in engineering and she works as a counselor for project
>Step Up.  It would seem to me that we should just switch 
>careers now and be done with it.

I thought this when I first read the above, but after a few seconds
of thought I think that an INFP in engineering may not be all that 
incompatible.  Engineering would allow an INFP to use intuition and 
creativity.  I seriously considered mechanical engineering but I 
couldn't do the upper level math.  Math is what made me change from 
computer science to psychology.

Anyway, I started as a fine art major, to computer science, then 
finished my BS in psychology with a focus on social psychology.  I 
just finished an MS in education focusing on several dimentions of
social development, and I am going for a Ph.D. in cultural/social
anthropology.  (I would be interested to know the personality of
anthropologists--how many are INFP, etc.).

Well, enough rambling from me today...

*Paul

a.k.a. Pooh Bare

fortmapl@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu
pfortman@udcps3.cps.udayton.edu


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From: sundar@golf.cis.ohio-state.edu (N Sundar)
Subject: What are these acronyms?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:50:26 GMT


I am entirely new in this newsgroup. I am left kinda dazed by the swarm 
of acronyms flying by: INTJ, ENTP and what not. I vaguely realize that
these are personality types according to the Myers-Briggs test but can 
somebody say what these stand for? 

What is NeuroLinguistic programming? Is it a self-help method or what? 

I realize these might be FAQ, but I have yet to see a posted FAQ on this 
bboard. I ask you folks to put up with me.

Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: Re: Why no Nobel Prize in Math?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:48:50 GMT

I saw the following in sci.physics, and think it may be of interest to
the alt.psychology.personality crowd.  Go to it!

Jon

**************************************************************************
In article dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs) writes:
**************************************************************************
In article  wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>hausner@qucis.queensu.ca (Alejo Hausner) writes:

>>       It seemed unlikely to me at the time that a mathematician
>>would have a love life, much less an adulterous one, but I've
>>since realized they're human too.

>?????? Is that because you think that all mahtematicians are 1) asexual,
>2) homosexual, 3) perfect moral speicmens according to some moral
>code that you recognize, 4) prudes, or 5) just don't have the time
>because they spend so much time doing mathematics?????

Well, I can add a mildly amusing bit of annecdotal evidence which suggests
that there might be a grain of truth to the above.  (Take the implications
with a few smileys, but the story *is* true, albeit more than a decade
old.)

A friend of the household, before I moved in, was active with COYOTE in the
SF Bay Area.  I can't remember the acronym expansion, but it is (was?) an
organization to promote legalized prostitution.  Among other things, COYOTE
kept summary statistics of the sales activities of all their members, as
ammunition for their lobbying battles.  There was always a big correlation
between sales and a major convention in San Francisco.  Until the AMS had
a major meeting there, that is.  COYOTE had its worst weekly sales ever!

(And Bill, I don't think the Alejo meant anything by the original post.
It's a lot easier to laugh at ourselves, and realize that the stereotype
really is pretty funny.  It's certainly not true in general, but there's
just enough reality in the stereotype to make it funnier than random
slander.  Don't give yourself an ulcer.)

******************************************************************************

-- 

Charter Member of the INFJ Club.

Now, if you're just dying to know what INFJ stands for, be brave, e-mail me,
and I'll send you some information.  It WILL be worth the inquiry, I think.

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From: gruffini@landau.ucdavis.edu (Giulio Ruffini)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Request for questionnaire
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:46:11 GMT

I have recently seen references here to a quick 70 question way to 
fill in the blanks of my I___ self-assesment.  However articles
disappear very quickly from our system, so I'd be grateful if 
someone could email me a copy (or maybe repost it?).
Thanks
Andrew              Internet:   parkes@ucdhep.ucdavis.edu

Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: norris@athena.mit.edu (Richard A Chonak)
Subject: Re: Hacker Personality Characteristics :)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:22:18 GMT

In article <2807863572@sunburst.nrl.navy.mil>, usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil writes:

|> :Personality Characteristics:
|> =============================
|> 
|> The most obvious common `personality' characteristics of hackers are
|> high intelligence, consuming curiosity, and facility with intellectual
|> abstractions.  Also, most hackers are `neophiles', stimulated by and
|> appreciative of novelty (especially intellectual novelty).  Most are
|> also relatively individualistic and anti-conformist.
|> [...]
|> Hackers are `control freaks' in a way that has nothing to do with the
|> usual coercive or authoritarian connotations of the term.  In the same
|> way that children delight in making model trains go forward and back by
|> moving a switch, hackers love making complicated things like computers
|> do nifty stuff for them.  But it has to be *their* nifty stuff.  They
|> don't like tedium, nondeterminism, or most of the fussy, boring,
|> ill-defined little tasks that go with maintaining a normal existence.
|> [...]
|> Hackers are generally only very weakly motivated by conventional rewards
|> such as social approval or money.  They tend to be attracted by
|> challenges and excited by interesting toys, and to judge the interest of
|> work or other activities in terms of the challenges offered and the toys
|> they get to play with.
|> 

In this connection, it might be worthwhile to mention sociologist Dr.
Sherry Turkle's book, "The Second Self".  It describes how children at
various ages use and interact with computers, and has a fascinating
chapter on the hackers who (at that time) populated the MIT computer
labs, dropping out of college because their coursework took them away
from the machine too much.  

Turkle describes hackers as people consumed by the quest for mastery and
neglecting the "social" skills most of us take for granted.  For her, a
symbol of this tendency is the annual MIT contest in which contenders
vie for the title of "Ugliest Man on Campus".  

--RC
From: Paul.Fortman@launchpad.unc.edu (Paul Fortman)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: yet another INFP
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:35:58 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Dec29.054028.9789@vela.acs.oakland.edu> w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu writes:
>Actually, I get all my signatures from a cute little U!@#$%x utility called
>"fortune" (as in cookie (as in /usr/games/fortune)).  As I am writing this, I
>have no idea what "my" signature will be this time.  How's THAT for an INFJ
>quirk?

How can I get a copy of this.  I have a quote database on my VAX account
that randomly chooses a quote when I login or logoff but I don't have one
that does a random signature.  I have a VAX account and a Unix account.

Thanks.

*Paul (INFP)


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From: w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu (Walter Lee)
Subject: Re: Hacker Personality Characteristics :)
Reply-To: w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, MI
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:15:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.012218.18119@athena.mit.edu>, norris@athena.mit.edu (Richard A Chonak) writes:

/* original article deleted */

>In this connection, it might be worthwhile to mention sociologist Dr.
>Sherry Turkle's book, "The Second Self".  It describes how children at
>various ages use and interact with computers, and has a fascinating
>chapter on the hackers who (at that time) populated the MIT computer
>labs, dropping out of college because their coursework took them away
>from the machine too much.  

Hmm... an honest assessment would reveal that I have a habit of going back to
college, PARTLY to gain access to the machine, which I must confess I'm in love
with.  I never counted myself among true hackers.  Since I'm already 27 and
have no MAJOR hacks under my belt it looks like hackerdom just isn't in the
cards for me... :-(

>Turkle describes hackers as people consumed by the quest for mastery and
>neglecting the "social" skills most of us take for granted.  For her, a
>symbol of this tendency is the annual MIT contest in which contenders
>vie for the title of "Ugliest Man on Campus".  

I envy hackers in that they seem (to me) to have technical abilities at a level
that exempts them from what I call "office politics".  I envy "extroverts"
because they seem (to me) to be able to extract gainful employment or the
financial equivalent from a cocktail party and a stack of business cards.

Seems (to me) our society is putting a lot of pressure on all of us to be more
competitive and more specialized.  Seems either you've got some abilit(y/ies)
(some personality traits?) WAY outside the normal range, or you're like all the
Biff Lomans (Lomen?) out there, a dime a dozen.

Just my $0.0083333... worth.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Walter Lee                                          w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu

Democrats make up plans and then do something else.  Republicans follow
the plans their grandfathers made.
From: rlewis@csulb.edu (Ralph Lewis)
Subject: Re: Hacker Personality Characteristics :)
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:08:32 GMT

To build on Tammy Boyd's comment on hackers personality, I am posting
so preliminary findings on the personality of CMC uses. The population
are university classes that require CMC use to share papers etc.

The high usage CMC users were:

- more tolerant of ambiguity
- were more sociable and gregarious while at the same time wanting more 
  independent work structure and less authoritative direction for task
  accomplishment
- were more respectful of others and more cooperative with others
- had a higher need for achievement
- has less computer anxiety
- score higher on mental hralth and lower on pathology scales
- were more assertive than the general college student population

If anyone has other data or findings on the use of CMC and users personality
I would be interested in hearing from you.
Best Wishes, Ralph Lewis rlewis@csulb.edu
-- 
Ralph Lewis, Dept. Management/Human Resources Management, 
School of Business Administration, California State University,
Long Beach, INTERNET: rlewis@csulb.edu
From: sstrazdu@vulcan.intel.com (Stephen Strazdus)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: Profiles, we need profiles!  Star Trek! (was Re: Hacker Personality...)
Date: 23 Dec 1992 22:12:54 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
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In article rlewis@csulb.edu (Ralph Lewis) writes:

>>To build on Tammy Boyd's comment on hackers personality, I am posting
>>so preliminary findings on the personality of CMC uses. The population
>>are university classes that require CMC use to share papers etc.

Those comments were taken from an appendix to "The Jargon File," or
whatever it is called.  It has definitions of most every term most people
on the net use, and is rather humorous.  I'm sure you can track it down
using archie.  The only version I have is in OS/2's .inf hypertext format.
I'm sure that version is at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, but I don't know where the
ASCII version can be found.





In article <1992Dec22.224120.7517@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:

> [Stuff going on in rec.arts.startrek.current]

>And the
>thread about Troi being asked to wear a standard uniform by Jellico (rather
>than her usual tight fitting uniform which shows substantial cleavage) is
>also fascinating from the personality-of-the-poster viewpoint.  Have fun
>over there.  

This INTP doesn't see much point in any of them wearing a uniform other
than some stupid tradition which stifles individuality and make some
officers think they are better than everyone.  But then I'd never join
the military either.
--
Steve Strazdus    sstrazdu@sedona.intel.com
80960 Design      (602) 554-3867


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From: treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: ENTP: Loud, Proud, and having trouble finishing this post...
Date: 31 Dec 1992 05:37:19 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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	Hi!!!!	 (E)			Gregarious and
	Aha!     (N)			  inspired,
	Hmmm...  (T)			    the thoughtful ENTP
	WhiZzs!  (P)			      lets the project go....
		  |
		  |
		  |

(joke eh?

I don't suppose any of the 16 personality permutations of the MB system really
has it in the bag.  My existence as an ENTP has certainly had its problems.  

'Problems' themselves are sometimes defined within one's
MB type.  Disappointments I've incurred while poking at 
EasyBigMoneyFunThoughts are very different from the disappointments of a 
SafetyProblemMoralRageLoneliness trip.  

Big problems are perceived differently too.  I read in a book (by either a 
Myers or a Briggs; don't remember) that a large majority of
professors and people with advanced degrees (Ph.D.s) are INTJ types,
but 2/3 of society is either Extroverted and/or Sensory .  Even though 
you may be surrounded by a sea of INTXs at school, the book says these 
people make up about ~11% of the population.

Similarly, INTJ types are called upon, because of their position in our
society, to formulate plans for social stability and improvement.  As an 
Environmental studies major I noticed my professors saying over and
over again, "We must each look at our personal use of the environment,
mull it over, and realize that a course of extreme thriftiness is the
only morally correct course.  We must stand apart from society and 
eschew materialism":  

Translation: think a lot, and be an ascetic.
Whether or not this advice is good is almost beside the point, 
Ascetics preach asceticism for the masses.

I never once heard a professor say anything like, "beer and bowling are 
intensely fun to scads of people!  We need more intensely fun things like 
this with low resource ezpenditure and communal equipment!", "Remove the 
emphasis from success=money=posessions to success=social standing
at arbitrary sensual thing"

Hmm... where was I...  biases...each XXXX type comes with biases
that define problems at the personal social, and global levels.
Obvious - but easy to forget when solving or pontificating on the
Problems...


Warning!!!
Divisive and inflammatory pun approaching!
J people may experience judgemental processes that trigger flaming!
F people likely to feel hurt!

	FJ people are filled with intense emotions of judgement.  
	T.P. people just wipe that shit away... ;-)



I apologize!!!

"More Fun Now!" - Armbands and insignia available upon request 


-treon

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From: isilver@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RE: Lost e-mail
Date: 30 DEC 92 07:40:11 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

Something is wrong with this discussion board, Debby. It seems to have
problems losing mail. Oh well.....<sigh>
iAN