HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Chapped lips and Vaseline
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:19:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

I was told recently that it's not a good idea to apply petroleum jelly
to my perennially chapped lips because the petroleum jelly effect is
only temporary and ultimately leaves my lips in a worse state.  My
experience seems to confirm this, although I had always assumed it
was because the condtions leading to the chapping were ongoing.

Comments?
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Circumcisions as Medical Fraud
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:54:57 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <168B7240.PKJAMES@UKCC.UKY.EDU> PKJAMES@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:

>I have to agree with you Dave.  Circumcision is not a necessary
>operation. I don't also think that we who believe  in real science have
>to listen to the bullshit we hear in favor of it.  They are
>pseudointellecutals and really don't even merit a mention.     Alot of
>women seem to thin that removal of the foreskin is just as common as
>removal of the cord. And I say give them andunecessary espitomotomy.
>It doesn't really matter to me , my son is not cut and I'd kill anyone
>who tried to hold him down and do it.  I'ts his choice.

Good thing there are no Freudians on the net.:-)  What they couldn't
do with this statement.  But really, things do seem to have 
escalated to a hysterical level, don't they?







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From: eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki)
Subject: Re: Body Temperature
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:44:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.161742.8548@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.094919.4995@visual.spk.wa.us> pwageman@visual.spk.wa.us (Peggy Wageman) writes:
>>What is the normal body temperature?  I had always thought it was 98.6, but
>>I heard recently that there is a range, and that 98.6 was merely in the range>
>The number 98.6 sounds more precise than it is.  98.6 F = 37.0 C.
>That doesn't mean it's accurate to a tenth of a degree.
>More that it's closer to 37 C than 36 C or 38 C.

As a rule of thumb, it's 37 C, but when measured in the armpit, you get about
36.5, in the mouth about 36.7. Of course, this varies from person to person 
and circadian variation is also to be considered. The best way to measure
body temperature accurately is in the rectum.

/ep
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From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg)
Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:44:10 GMT

In article <17745@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <1992Dec06.093340.21522@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg) writes:
>>
>>After the 18 week "happy" time, the placebo group started
>>regaining weight on the maintenance diet, and would have
>>regained all their weight by the end of the year if they had not
>>been offered dexfenfluramine.
>>
>>The dexfenfluramine group continued to lose weight.  As confirmed
>>in other papers, dexfenfluramine worked to normalize weight set
>>point in the obese, something no diet has ever been shown to do.
>
>So Chuck, have you tried fenfluramine?  I have, and it isn't a panacea.
>I admit it does help.  But there are some side effects.  Over the long

I wish I could try it.  Last month I suggested just that to Dr. Herson,
my Kaiser Permanente endocrinologist.  I had brought with me some of
the materials I've gathered showing the usefulness of this stuff in
controlling obesity and insulin resistance.  He declined my offer to
lend him these materials, stating that he was quite up to date on
current research.  Herson stated none of this stuff was approved, and
that was that.  He put me on Verapamil 2x80mg and Micronase 5mg, which
have lowered my glucose and BP readings.

>term these can be almost as annoying as having to force oneself to stay
>on the diet.  My impression of the fenfluramine isn't that it makes you
>burn your calories better, but (at least in me) it makes me so I don't have
>as much desire to eat and I stop eating sooner and don't snack as much.
>It most definitely does not allow me to eat whatever I wanted before
>taking it and not gain, it just dulls the stimulus to eat.

Gordon's biology/metabolism is rather different from mine, and
the reaction to this stuff may also vary.  It's a rather
academic question as it is not available to me.

No unequivocal report of major health hazards has appeared with
fenfluramine in spite of extensive worldwide prescription for
decades, yet it is "not approved".  Can there be any question
why the U.S. is Obesity Central?

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From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: New Migraine Drug???
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:23:09 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

[reply to goshorn@CS.ColoState.EDU]
 
>I am looking for info including patient experience with medication for
>treatment of cluster headaches.  Currently using verapamil & ergotamine
>- not terribly effective.
 
If they really are cluster headaches (I say this because this is a
fairly common misdiagnosis), they may respond better to methysergide for
prophylaxis and oxygen for individual headaches.  Have you seen a
neurologist about them?

David Nye
nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
From: paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Occasional "brownouts".
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:09:54 GMT
Reply-To: paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson)
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, UK

I wrote (when describing a friend's problem):
>> >As far as I know there is no history of epilepsy or other mental
>> >illness in the family.                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>  ^^^^^^^

Ruth Ginzberg took issue with this statement.  (I missed this,
probably due to a news feed dropping stuff on the floor), arguing that
the underlined section suggested that epilepsy and mental illness are
the same thing.

The reason I included the phrase "other mental illness" was that my
friend also hears accusing voices during his seizures.  I gather that
hearing voices is a symptom of schizophrenia, and so this information
seemed relevant (BTW my friend seems pefectly sane to me).


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From: kfl@access.digex.com (Keith F. Lynch)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:02:00 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1992Dec14.224957.11233@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg) writes:
> From what I can gather, the diet establishment is much more
> aggressive here, and the incidence of high count diet cyclers
> may be higher.  Every middle aged morbidly obese male I have
> talked to has diet cycled many times.

I reached 320 pounds by age 15.  I had never been on a diet.  Had I not
lost weight at age ~30 (reducing to ~160 lbs) I'm sure I would have
remained 320 pounds through middle and old age.

So at least in my case, the "morbid obesity" was not due to diet cycling.

It's my impression -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- that virtually
every "morbidly obese" middle aged man was "morbidly obese" all their
life.  This seems to be unrelated to the more common "middle age spread".

Keith Lynch, kfl@access.digex.com
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Newsgroups: sci.med,rec.pets.birds
Subject: Birds:  allergies and other diseases
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:11:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

Hello,

Based on a couple prior posts, you might be beginning to realize that I have
not been totally well.  I definitely have a chronic low level bacterial
infection, general rhinitis, and possibly (still not totally confirmed), a
low-level fungal infection in my sinuses as well.

Anyway, we have two birds in our house, a female plum-headed parrakeet (yes,
the spelling here of 'parrakeet' is correct), as well as a Moustached
parrakeet.  What I'd like to know is if it is possible, in addition to classic
allergy, for my sinus problems to be caused/aggravated by our birds?  I
specifically refer to the nasal analog of "birdkeeper's lung", which is an
unusual reaction to certain molds the birds carry (that's what I gather from
a Jan. 92 issue of 'Bird Talk').  It seems to be a reaction that is different
than just plain allergy, possibly a fungal infection.

And with regards to allergy, if it is the cause of my 'challenges', it is low
level, since during the times that I play with the birds, or clean their area,
I don't notice any increase in inhalent allergy symptoms such as sneezing, etc.
I am also at my maintenance dose for allergy desensitization injections.

Anyway, I look forward to any advice, etc.

Jon

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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: evidence for homeopathy - who pays?
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:59:49 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <BSIMON.92Dec10070620@elvis.stsci.edu> bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:

>would just like to add that though only a tiny fraction of physicians
>in this country are homeopaths, interest in homeopathy has increased
>dramatically in the past fifteen years. For example, Boiron has

But the increase is only a fraction of what the decrease was from
the previous century.  100 years ago, homeopathy was a real competitor
with medicine.
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From: chess@McRCIM.McGill.EDU ()
Subject: Computer-based Medical Diagnosis Environment
Originator: chess@kadumu.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:13:04 GMT


At present we are developing computer-based medical diagnosis
environments that teach high school students the skill of 
evaluating patient symptoms and performing appropriate diagnostic
tests to confirm a hypothesis.

The software that we are developing is still in its experimental
stages and we have designed it to teach one case where 4 patients
in a ward have certain symptoms.

We would like to expand this to tutor a larger number of cases and
would like to know if there exists a database of diseases , 
associated diseases and diagnostic tests to confirm them.

Regards

k.s
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Nausea manifesting as vertigo??
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:46:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Dec13.184612.3202
Distribution: usa
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

Someone that I know has had intermittent dizzy spells (maybe one every
six months, sometimes one or two within a 3-day period, and then it
goes away) which have been attributed to inner-ear trouble and controlled
with Antivert.

However, she has noticed that the attacks are frequently accompanied and
in some cases _preceded_ by digestive upset (either bowels or stomach).

I suppose it's quite possible that inner ear trouble is causing the digestive
problem.  But could it be working the other way around, i.e., occasional
bouts of gastroenteritis or something are causing the dizziness?
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From: mazur@bluefin.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:33:57 GMT

In <1992Dec14.223245.23032@kestrel.edu> king@reasoning.com (Dick King) writes:
>Isn't it customary to look at immigrants, when one country has a particular
>medical problem to a greater degree than another, and there is confusion as to
>whether the difference is environment or heredity?

I believe this has been done with the Chinese and Japanese and also with Native
Americans who have changed to a traditional "American" diet.  Hmmm, these
folks could probably be the diet virgins Chuck has been looking for.

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From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: AIDS, Cancer Cured by Hyperoxygenation
Date: 13 Dec 1992 04:24:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Here are some relevant studies to the original posting:


---Ozone inactivates HIV at noncytotoxic concentrations.
   ANTIVIRAL RESEARCH, 1991, Oct.  16(3):281-92

---Inactivation of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 by ozone
   in vitro.
   BLOOD, 1991  Oct. 1, 78(7): 1882-90

---Studies on the biological effects of ozone: induction of tumor
   necrosis factor on human leucocytes.
   L

   LYMPHOKINE AND CYTOKINE RESEARCH, 1991  Oct., 10(5): 409-12

---Viricidal effect of polymorphonuclear leukocytes on human
   immunodeficiency virus-1. Role of the myeloperoxidase 
   system.
   JOURNAL OF CLINICAL INVESTIGATION
   1992, June  89(6): 2014-7

---Lethal oxidative damage to human immunodeficiency virus by
   human recombinant myeloperoxidase.
   FEBS LETTERS   1992, May 18, 302(3); 209-12

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From: smorris@tweedledum.ucsb.edu (Stephen Morris)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: wrinkly fingers
Keywords: swimming, wrinkles
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:42:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsbcsl.7177
Reply-To: smorris@tweedledum.ucsb.edu (Stephen Morris)
Distribution: world, rec, usa, na

Greetings.

I was in a hot tub recently when a discussion broke 
out about wrinkly fingers.  Why is it that your fingers
get wrinkly after being in water for awhile?  I had always
heard that it had something to do with moisture loss due 
differential osmotic pressure (or some such thing), but it seems
that that pressure goes the wrong direction.  Someone else thought
it had to do with skin oils getting lost, still another person
thought that you just sweated out water ...

What is the real explanation?


e-mail s.v.p., I don't read this group.

<S|M>
Newsgroups: sci.med,alt.support.cancer
From: mdtaylor@apple.com (Mark Taylor)
Subject: Immunotherapy for prostate cancer?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:56:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer
Followup-To: sci.med

My grandfather was diagnosed two years ago as having prostate cancer that
had
metastasized.  Since then, he has been able to control it through drugs.

Over the past two months, his doctor has detected a rise in the levels of
the indicator (antibodies in the bloodstream?) that his cancer has
returned.
He and I are both very worried about this development.

My aunt, a psychiatrist, has mentioned to him that there might be some kind
of immunotherapy that would be appropriate for him to try.  My grandfather
has asked me to ask on NetNews where he might be able to find out more
information about this.

So does anyone have any information about immunotherapy for prostate
cancer,
or any pointers on where I could go to find out more?  Information about
any
other possible treatments would also be most welcome.

Thanks very much,
- Mark Taylor
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Migraines
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:02:35 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Dec06.094634.16536@visual.spk.wa.us> pwageman@visual.spk.wa.us (Peggy Wageman) writes:
>What distinguishes a migraine from a sinus headache?  I read in a magazine 
>recently that alot of people that think they are having a sinus headache are
>actually having a migraine headache.  Also, what medications are usually given
>for migraines.  Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Peggy Wageman

Most patients that I see who think they have sinus headaches really have
migraine.  Often they also have relatives who had thought they had sinus
headaches.  I don't know whether it comes from watching too many Dristan
commercials or what.  Unfortunately, many doctors display the same ignorance
of migraine vs sinus as the patient.  Sinus headaches are caused by pressure
of fluid in the sinuses, usually infected fluid, or by pressure changes
when the sinus passages are clogged.  Anyone who has flown in an airplane
when they have a cold might be able to relate to what sinus headaches are like.
There should be pain when the sinuses are percussed and the sinuses should
show fluid on CT scan and thickened membranes usually.  The sinuses can be
opened wider surgically which can help true sinus headaches.

Migraines, we have discussed before, so see the FAQ.  There are many, many
drugs effective in migraine.  Most common categories are beta blockers,
tricyclic antidepressants, and ergot-like drugs.  The vast majority of
migraine sufferers will respond to one or more agents of these classes
if the proper dosage is given.


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From: jat@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Joseph Talmadge)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:23:56 GMT
Subject: Dominant vs non-dominant eyes
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: sci.med

I'm looking for help regarding my eyes.  Here's the problem.

I'm staring at something close to me (say, my finger, held out about two
feet from my face), and trying to line it up with something about twenty
feet away.  If I keep both eyes open and focus on my finger, then I see
*two* images of the object that's far away.  With most people, I am led
to understand that instead of seeing two distinct images of the distant
object, the distant object just gets fuzzy.

The explanation I've been given for this is that my right eye, which is
my dominant eye, is only *slightly* dominant over my left (non-dominant)
eye.  I've also been told that many people who have the same condition
as me are able to somehow increase their dominant eye's dominance, so
that eventually they too could stare at a close object and the distant
object would get fuzzy instead of splitting.

So the question is, are there any eye doctors or whatever out there
who could tell me what I could do to make my right eye more dominant?
Are there any exercises I could do?
(I have good reasons for wanting this to happen).

thanks,

Joe
jat@cup.hp.com
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Kellogg and Moral Medicine (was: circumcision)
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:02:25 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg) wrote:
> In article <17794@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>> Actually, I've seen this only in old books on morality and such.
>> I've never seen it in any of the reputable text books like
>> Osler's textbook, etc.  What reputable doctors of the time
>> advocated it to prevent masturbation?
> I'd like to use this to segue into a question I've been meaning to
> ask.  In the late 1800s to early 1900s there were quite a few books
> of "medicine for the common man", but which really seemed to be a
> quack justification of somebody's morality.  Probably the best known
> was written by Dr. Kellogg (of Corn Flakes fame).  My question is,
> to what extent was any of this accepted by the medical community?
> And, what kind of reaction was there to it?

It's a long time since I've looked at it, but I seem to remember that Alex
Comfort's "The Anxiety Makers" was a hilarious-if-it-wasn't-so-gruesome
history of 19th century moral panics in medicine.  He seemed to imply that
this stuff was quite widespread.

An interesting example of an overreaction the other way: I recently posted
to alt.tasteless a description of the contents of Max Thorek's "The Human
Testis", published in 1924.  This takes sex-is-good-for-you to the extent
of trying to treat schizophrenia (OK, "dementia praecox") with testicle
transplants.

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