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From: stefans@bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Stefan Schwarz)
Subject: Bug in /usr/lib/cpp ?
Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:16:35 GMT

Hi,

the following statements cause trouble with cpp on Irix 4.0.5.

#define Concat(a,b) a/**/b
filename: /usr/lib/Concat(lib,X11.a)

cpp produces: filename: /usr/lib/ libX11.a
                                 ^extra space
I can't avoid this extra space!

acpp doesn't do this, but for several reasons i cannot switch to acpp.

Is this a bug or a feature?

Any help welcome,
Stefan
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From: paul2@dcs.exeter.ac.uk (Paul Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Problems with job control on tcsh
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:39:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - University of Exeter. UK


I seem to remember reading about someone else who had this problem
about 3 months ago. At the time I wasn't compiling my own shell so
I didn't pay much attention.

Now I have moved to a site where there was no tcsh (horrors) and I
have compiled the shell successfully, but ^Z does not work. 

Does anyone have patches/ workaround to fix this up? I got my copy of
the tcsh from a sgi archive site & I though that would be OK.

Thanks, in advance, Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: IRIX last command and FTP
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:48:50 GMT

In article <39454@imag.imag.fr> usson@imag.fr (Yves Usson) writes:
>
>  I am installing a ftp anonymous account on
> our Indigo and I would like to get a statistic
> of access to this account. For this I use
> the 'last' command but I cannot obtain the remote
> host names or Internet IDs. I tried the 'last'
> command on other systems (Sun, Gould...) and
> with those I obtain the remote host name.
>
> Is it a bug of Irix 4.0.1 or did I make something wrong?
> Not to mention I tried all the options of 'last' 
> (-a in particular).

You should use the undocumented '-lll' option for ftpd.

Change your /usr/etc/inetd.conf file, so that the line for ftpd reads:
ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/etc/ftpd           ftpd -lll

Then run 'killall -HUP inetd'

This will cause lots more logging information to be sent to syslogd.
If you want even more, try ftpd's '-d' (debug) option.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: mosh@elvis.uucp ( Moshe Shemesh)
Subject: Writing Exabyte/8200 tape format with Exabyte/8500 tape under IRIX
Organization: ROBCAD Software inc. Herzelia - ISRAEL
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:35:22 GMT


Hello netlanders,

    According to Exabyte-8500 tape documentation, The Exabyte-8500 tape drive
    is capable of writing files which the Exabyte-8200 is able to read by
    issuing the appropriate SCSI command. I was wondering if IRIX 4.0.[1-5] has
    support for this feature? Can I write files with the 8500 tape and then
    read them on a 8200 tape? How can this be done?

    I have inspected /dev/rmt/tps* and noticed that there are device drivers
    with the 8200 suffix and others with the 8500 suffix. The man page for tps
    doesn't explain what is the difference between these device drivers (What
    will happen if I will use the driver with the 8200 suffix with Exabyte-850
    tape drive? Does the driver with the 8200 suffix support for this feature?

    Thanks in advance.


Moshe Shemesh
Just another System Administrator
ROBCAD software Technologies Ltd.
Herzelia - Israel

INTERNET:mosh%robcad@uunet.uu.net
UUCP:uunet!robcad!mosh

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use it.
From: ottmar@ajberl.adsp.sub.org (Ottmar Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  HPGL viewers
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:55:45 GMT
Organization: Atelier Roehrig

In article <osc6f34@fido.asd.sgi.com> williams@agomoda.asd.sgi.com (Eric Williams) writes:
>In <1992Aug21.152220.11671@ncsa.uiuc.edu> heathman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Michael Heathman) writes:
>> Has anyone developed a HPGL viewer for the SGI?
>
>I asked this question a while back and only got one response.  The
>response said to try an HPGL to PostScript converter available from
>swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov in the programs directory as hpgl2ps.tar.Z.
>

There is an application called "CADview" from a german company
(Lineas). Viewing HPGL/2-Files works pretty well with that. Contact
them at phone +49 531 3801140

Ottmar
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From: robert@swanee.ee.uwa.edu.au (Roberto Togneri)
Subject: Thermal specs on IRIS 4D/20 -- query
Organization: Elec Eng, Univ of Western Australia
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:12:01 GMT

Hi,

To put up a case for air conditioning I have a hopefully simple
request from SGI (who read this newsgroup I hope):

What is the operating temperature range of the IRIS 4D/20 series 
computers?


Thank You for your help,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: billh@vab07.larc.nasa.gov (Bill Henderson)
Subject: Mac emulator for the SGI
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:52:50 GMT


As much as it disgusts me to ask this question, one of my users wants to
know if there is such a thing as a Macintosh emulator for the SGI? In other
words he wants to be able to run MacDraw etc on the SGI. Respond either to
me or to rwp@vab02.larc.nasa.gov.

Thanks,

Bill
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From: dcs@neutron.chem.yale.edu (Dave Schweisguth)
Subject: Re: Mysterious behavior of 'tin'
Organization: Yale University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:47:16 GMT

Dave Schweisguth (dcs@neutron) wrote:
: I've just sent a bug report off to Iain Lea, the author of the 'tin'
: newsreader. [etc.]

Hi all,

I've just been warned about my truncated reply address. It's fixed as of this
post. I'd appreciate it if anyone who tried to reply to any of my recent burst
of "corrupt" posts and couldn't could try again ...

Sorry for the public clumsiness.

Cheers,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: jmc@sioux.eel.ufl.edu (Jim Callahan)
Subject: CD-ROM & Magnetic/Optical Drive?
Organization: University of Florida
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 04:25:13 GMT

Are there any Magnetic/Optical drives that also read CD-ROM formats for the Indigo?  If so, what is the maximum size the drive(s) will write.


							-Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: DEADLOCK
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:50:37 GMT

In <1992Sep9.155859.5492@asf.com> zum@asf.com (Craig Zumwinkle) writes:
| We have two programs running concurrently.  The one that is visible
| is a user interface for command and control ( i.e. lots of buttons, sliders,
| and bitmap graphics, etc) and the other is a communications program that
| sends and receives data via a serial port connection using the RS422
| protocol.  The communications program receives packets of data that
| average about 50 bytes @ 9600 baud at about 7 to 10 times a second.
| These two programs exchange data with each other through shared memory.
| SYMPTOMS:
| =========
| 
| Our machine appears to deadlock at unpredictable periods are not 
| reliably reproducible.  However, it has deadlocked when we were
| not running our programs; in fact one time I was just using vi when
| it locked up.  It has locked up when running our software in the
| debugger.  Now when I say locked up I mean it is impossible to interact
| with the machine.  No cursor movement, unable to ping it from another
| host, no magic key sequences seem to free it up.  My only alternative
| is to reboot the sucker.  Upon system boot fsck reports no problems 
| on the /usr file system and there aren't any new error or warning
| messages in the SYSLOG.  So far we have completely replaced the graphics
| cards twice and the cpu cards once.  We also replaced one bad simm (A4).

How are you doing EIA 422?  If it is a seperate board (as I assume it
most likely is, since we don't have full 422 support), perhaps that
board is your problem?

| HELP! HELP!  We are at the end of our rope here.  Do we have a problem
| because of the latest release of the OS coupled with this new venture
| into 6U VMEbus computer???

I don't know a whole lot about the VME based systems, but I would 
certainly call and ask the support folks; there were some VME interface
problems on the regular 4D/30 and 35, but I thought they were fixed
for the VME based systems.
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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: QIC TAPE TRANSFER OF ASCII FILES SGI<---->PC
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:55:27 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Sep6.111234.20737@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> mbersohn@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (M. Bersohn) writes:

| Does anyone out there have experience in transferring
| large ASCII files via 1/4" tape casettes between an SGI
| workstation and a PC? No I can't ethernet them together,
| they're on different continents. 
| In other words is there a version of tar, bru or what
| have you which would produce PC readable tapes and
| what does a PC have to do to produce SGI readable tapes?
| I will post any solution that I have successfully tried.

Sure, get a public domain (or buy one of the developer packages
that has it) tar for the PC, and create the tape using the non-byte
swap device on the SGI (normally /dev/tapens, see 'man tps')
and use the backward compatility option 'O' of tar, if you
have IRIX 4.0 or later.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A. Sturrock)
Subject: Re: X Terminal: I want my WorkSpace!
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:43:07 GMT

stanj@ferrari.corp.sgi.com (Stan Jensen) writes:


>You might consider Looking Glass Professional ($795), which is a "desktop
>environment for X Terminals" available from SGI Express @ 1-800-800-7441.

I admit that I haven't used "Looking Glass Professional" but if it is
anywhere as crummy as the one Intergraph ships on their Clipper Workstations
then it is a far cry from WorkSpace. As I recall many functions were simply
"unimplemented" when you chose them.

							-ks
From: srp@babar.mmwb.ucsf.edu (Scott R. Presnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: GNU finger and other GNU software installation
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:27:03 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert) writes:

>I just gave up on trying to install GNU finger 1.35 under IRIX 4.0.5.
>The Makefile is incredibly complex, and it didn't seem worth the struggle.
>Does anyone have any general advice on installing GNU software, which seems
>to be getting trickier to deal with?

I put some work into the 1.10 version of the GNU finger deamon, including
support for the IRIX xutmp hack.  It worked well until I updated to 4.0.5
where now the /etc/[x]utmp files are not updated correctly on logout.  At
first I thought it was xwsh, and so reinstalled xwsh from 4.0.2, but that
does not seem to be the case.  I don't know what/who is at fault.

Anyway, I'd be happy to make available what I've done if folks are
interested, but it's not up to date with 1.35 - and I'm less inclined to
spend the time as long as the /etc/[x]utmp files are screwed.

I've also installed the {file,text,shell}utils without too much trouble.
The major problems are with fileblocks.c and system.h. gcc-2.2.2 and
libg++-2.1 seemed to go well enough...  Have you got specific questions in
mind? 

	- Scott (srp@cgl.ucsf.edu)
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From: mcgraw@fermat.gte.com (Stuart McGraw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: find -local
Date: 5 Sep 92 20:03:38 GMT
Organization: GTE Labs, Waltam MA USA

/home/mcgraw is a local disk partition, /home/lerner is mounted via NFS.
Is the -local option of find supposed to act this way?

Script started on Sat Sep  5 14:41:19 1992
% /bin/find /home/lerner -local -type d -print		# OK
% /bin/find /home/mcgraw -local -type d -print		# OK
/home/mcgraw
/home/mcgraw/.workspace
/home/mcgraw/dumpster
[...]
% /bin/find /home/lerner /home/mcgraw -local -type d -print  # Huh?!?!?!
% 
script done on Sat Sep  5 14:44:30 1992
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: SCSI disconnect or lack thereof in kernel/devices
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:32:50 GMT

In <2935@contex.contex.com> jeff@hobbes.contex.com (Jeff Carey) writes:


| We have a SCSI device attached to a SGI PI25 running IRIX 4.0.5A that I know
| does not support SCSI disconnect.
| The kernel, in particular /usr/sysgen/master.d/scsi, has not been changed.
| There is a line in there that currently reads:
| int scsi_enable_disconnect[SC_MAXADAP] = {1,1,1,1};
| 
| The device seems to work, and just as importantly, the whole system seems
| to work just fine while using the non-disconnecting device.  Obviously,
| the SCSI bus is locked down when said device is being accessed.
| 
| My questions are:
| 1.  Is it necessary for some as-yet unrecognized reason to disable disconnect
|     on the host adapter with said device?

No.  The array is there so that the driver can be configured to not allow
a disconnect, primarily for devices that think they support it, but
don't work right (or perhaps trigger a bug in our driver).

| 2.  Is it beneficial (integrity, speed, dependability-wise) to disable
|     disconnect on the host adapter?

No.  It is in fact, the opposite, as you lose the ability to overlap
i/o on multiple devices.

| 3.  Should I expect similar success(/failure) rates on other machines, such
|     as PI35s, Indigos, Crimsons (with their two host adapters), etc?  (I can
|     not imagine graphics options 8-bit, Elan, etc. would have any affect.)

Probably.  The only other problem you are likely to run into is when
the device that doesn't disconnect holds the bus for a 'long' time
(> 2-30 seconds, depending on device and command).  If this happens
after a device that does disconnect accepts a command, disconnects,
and can't get back on the bus (because your device is hogging it), you
will get a timeout, and the SCSI bus will be reset.  In that case,
you would have to change scsi_enable_disconnect, autoconfig, and reboot,
so that you won't get into this situation.
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: raines@holborne.physics.upenn.edu (Paul Raines)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: DAT tapes
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:17:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.012710.8942@news.Hawaii.Edu>, donna@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Donna Okazaki) writes:
|> And does anyone know of a good mail-order outfit to get them from?
|> The pickings are rather slim/expensive here in Hawaii.

We get our DAT tapes from Tape World (1-800-245-600)
				220 Spring St.
				Butler,PA 16003-0361

Their BASF 120's were $7.79 last time we purchased.  The local
stores where > $12.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: rickert@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
Subject: Re: traceroute
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:03:56 GMT

In <1992Sep12.210628.5967@biome.bio.ns.ca> silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert) writes:

>I've been asked why only root can run traceroute on a PI.  It is mode 755,
>but only root can access the necessary socket.  Apparently on other
>platforms you don't have to be root to run it.  Any answers out there?
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>InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.dfo.ca

Only root can open icmp sockets.  Ping which also opens icmp
sockets, is usually given setuid permissions.  If you do the same
for traceroute, then anyone can run it...which is probably how its
setup on the other platforms.
From: karlton@fudge.asd.sgi.com (Phil Karlton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: DISPLAY environment variable
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:27:14 GMT
Reply-To: karlton@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, ASD

In article <32359@adm.brl.mil>, sgi.com!pdi!shoshana@BRL.MIL (Shoshana Abrass) writes:
      Being new to X, I have a basic question:

Actually, lots of folks have trouble with this.
    
      How do you propagate your DISPLAY variable so that you can display 
      on your local screen even through multiple levels of rlogin? 
      I've noticed that if you're sitting at host A and you rlogin 
      to B, the REMOTEHOST variable (sgi only, I know) is set correctly 
      and your DISPLAY is host A. But if you then rlogin to host C 
      from B, the REMOTEHOST variable is B not A and the DISPLAY is :0.
    
Here is what I do. I bury the DISPLAY environment variable into $TERM
while logging in and then break it back apart on the remote machine. (The
rlogin protocol just doesn't have room for more environment variables.
Check the BUGS section of the rlogin man page.)

Details:

In my .login I have (among other things)

if ($?TERM) then
  if ( $TERM =~ *@* ) then
    eval `echo $TERM | sed 's/\(.*\)@\(.*\)/setenv DISPLAY \2; set term=\1/'`
  endif
endif
if ($?DISPLAY == 0 && $?REMOTEHOST) then
    setenv DISPLAY ${REMOTEHOST}:0
endif

In /usr/local/bin/xrlogin I have the script

#!/bin/csh -f

if ($?DISPLAY) then
    switch ( $DISPLAY )
      case "":
	setenv DISPLAY :0
      case ":*":
      case "unix:*":
      case "localhost:*":
	setenv HOSTNAME `/usr/bsd/hostname`
	setenv YPDOMAIN `echo $HOSTNAME | sed -e 's/[^.]*\.\(.*\)/\1/'`
	if ( "$YPDOMAIN" == "$HOSTNAME" ) then
	    # hostname doesn't contain domain
	    setenv HOSTNAME ${HOSTNAME}.`/usr/bin/domainname`
	endif
 	setenv TERM $term@${HOSTNAME}:`expr $DISPLAY : ".*:\(.*\)"`
 	breaksw
    default
 	setenv TERM $term@$DISPLAY
    endsw
endif

exec /usr/bsd/rlogin $*
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:25:02 EDT
From: Bill Lasher <W0L@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: surge supressors

When we looked into surge suppressors a few years ago, we were told that the
IRIS's had them built in.  We have opted for a UPS for our lab, simply because
a brownout takes forever to clean up.

On my machine (4D/35) I am using only a ground-fault interrupter.  This will
shut power to the workstation off if there is a momentary blackout.  This has
worked well for almost 2 years.  I think it's because the worst thing for the
machines is to have them shutdown and start back up in a period of a few
seconds.  Cost is about $20.

Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: tty width
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:51:03 GMT

In <1992Sep10.100609@masg6.epfl.ch> posse@masg6.epfl.ch (Christian Posse) writes:
| I would like to know if it is possible to determine the
| width of a window in order to control outputs like the
| command ls -C does for multiple columns output. 
| I have heard that on Sun (?) the `stty size` gives this result. 
| But what about SGI ?
| 
| I must say that the description of ls -C in the man did not
| help me.

TIOCGWINSZ from sys/termio.h; see 'man termio'.
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Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: pj@sam.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: setting file access time
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:14:21 GMT
Reply-To: pj@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Research & Development

In article <32519@adm.brl.mil>, beyer@bflsgu.fl.bs.dlr.de (R. Beyer) writes:
> I am looking for a command which can be used on the command line or in
|> a script to set the file access time like, for instance, utime(2).

use the -a option of touch(1).

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