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From: lein@garage.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: Re: ND stops series w/Miami (was Re: Wash-ND)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:15:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.161326.5461@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.145028.6475@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day                   ) writes:
>Highly unlikely.  With Penn St. committed to the Blockbuster Bowl this
>year, and tied up in Big 10 bowls in future years, the only likely
>scenario is if both Penn St. and Notre Dame have very bad years, ending
>up something like 7-4 each, with lots of Big 10 teams ahead of Penn St.
>Hoping that they meet in a bowl soon is equivalent to wishing bad years
>on both of them.  Which means, I guess, that lots of folks are hoping for
>a Notre Dame/Penn State bowl game.
>
Maybe the 1996 Kickoff classic in the Meadowlands :)

John L
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: more nicknames and mascots
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:58:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul21.195820.630
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
>While we're on the subject of nicknames and such:
>
>Teams with meteorological phenomenon for nicknames and flying creatures
>for mascots:
>
>Miami (FL) Hurricanes  (sorry, don't know the exact name of the waterfoul)
>
>I've heard the scoop on the Hurricane mascot, but I don't recall it.

I remember hearing on ESPN that the bird is an ibis, supposedly the last
bird to leave before a hurrican hits, and the first to return afterward.
This sounds wonderfully courageous to many, but to me it sounds like a 
pretty stupid bird. :-)

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Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Truth is a statue, and you are all just 
University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:52:32 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
> 
>I agree.  Enough about ND.  However, I'm curious to find out how many 
>college stadiums sell beer.   Michigan Stadium doesn't sell any kind 
>of alcohol.  That being the source of my main college football experience,
>I was surprised to see beer sold at the Rose Bowl this last year.  
>(So surprised that I bought a couple.) 
>Is it common for college stadiums to sell beer/alcohol?  
>As to the moral implications, well there are plenty of places one 
>can't buy beer.  Personally, I enjoy drinking beer, but can live 
>without it at a game.  Of course, the obnoxious drunks that I've 
>seen at games either smuggle in booze or get plastered before the 
>game.  

I suspect that most stadia which are on public state-owned property can't 
sell alcohol.  This is the case here at Washington, and is also true at
the University of Idaho, and I believe at WSU.  I like a beer as much as
the next guy (OK, maybe not as much as some, but more than most), but I
don't care for all the drunks picking fights and puking over people in
front of them.  Since most people at games don't seem to drink responsibly,
I say to hell with 'em.  Ban beer at Univerity events.  Of course, it doesn't
seem to make a lot of difference--many people smuggle it in.  In my experience,
the thing that limits alcohol consumption the most is a damn good team.  
If everybody is fixated on the game, people are less likely to drink (at
least to excess, which is the real problem).

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Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Truth is a statue, and you are all just 
University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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Organization: University Relations - Diane, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:24:12 -0400 
From: Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Heisman Poll Update

Here are the current standings in the Heisman Poll......

Shane Matthews, QB    Florida             72 pts.
Marshall Faulk, RB    San Diego State     63 pts.
Russell White, RB     California          61 pts.
Jerome Bettis, RB     Notre Dame          46 pts.
Trevor Cobb, RB       Rice                23 pts.
Qadry Ismail, WR      Syracuse            20 pts.
Billy Joe Hobert, QB  Washington          20 pts.
O.J. McDuffie, WR     Penn State          17 pts.
Greg Hill, RB         Texas A&M           16 pts.
Mazio Royster, RB     Southern California 15 pts.
Tyrone Wheatley, RB   Michigan            15 pts.
Marvin Jones, LB      Florida State       15 pts.
Glyn Milburn, RB      Stanford            13 pts.
Drew Bledsoe, QB      Washington State    12 pts.
Rick Mirer, QB        Notre Dame          12 pts.
Robert Smith, RB      Ohio State          12 pts.
Shawn Jones, QB       Georgia Tech        11 pts.
Derek Brown, RB       Nebraska            11 pts.
Beno Bryant, RB       Wahington           11 pts.
Gino Torretta, QB     Miami (FL)          10 pts.
Elvis Grbac, QB       Michigan            10 pts.
Dan Friedlinger, QB   Southern Methodist   6 pts.
Kevin Willams, KR     Miami (FL)           6 pts.
Eric Hunter, QB       Purdue               5 pts.
Ricky Powers, RB      Michigan             4 pts.
Marvin Graves, QB     Syracuse             4 pts.
Troy Kopp, QB         Pacific              3 pts.
Deon Strother, RB     Southern California  3 pts.
Errick Rhett, RB      Florida              3 pts.
Kirk Herbstreit, QB   Ohio State           2 pt.
Alex Van Pelt, QB     Pittsburgh           1 pt.
Cale Gundy, QB        Oklahoma             1 pt.
Eric Zeier, QB        Georgia              1 pt.
Tracy Saul, DB        Texas Tech           1 pt.
Danan Hughes, WR      Iowa                 1 pt.
David Palmer, WR      Alabama              1 pt.
Jeff Zgonina, NT      Purdue               1 pt.
Brian Fortay, QB      Rutgers              1 pt.     
Derrick Alexander, WR Michigan             1 pt.
Joey Galloway, ?      Ohio State           1 pt.

Please continue to send in your votes and I will update this periodically.

Make sure you send your top 3 picks!

-Todd

tf0y@andrew.cmu.edu
From: gaitan@hurricane.ih.att.com (45262-Gaitan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: more nicknames and mascots
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:00:05 GMT
Reply-To: c.gaitan@att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Originator: gaitan@hurricane


In article <1992Jul21.173929.17121@news.iastate.edu> jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
>While we're on the subject of nicknames and such:
>
>Teams with meteorological phenomenon for nicknames and flying creatures
>for mascots:
>
>Miami (FL) Hurricanes  (sorry, don't know the exact name of the waterfoul)

The bird is an IBIS and its name is Sebastian.  It is said that the Ibis is
the first bird to leave before, and to return after a Hurricane.
-- 
Cesar Gaitan.
                             |	
Computing and Networking     |   "If you are successful, you win
Technology Department,       |    false friends and true enemies.
AT&T Bell Laboratories.      |    Succeed anyway."
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:19:53 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1992Jul24.195232.12135@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>
>I suspect that most stadia which are on public state-owned property can't 
>sell alcohol.  This is the case here at Washington, and is also true at
>the University of Idaho, and I believe at WSU.  I like a beer as much as
>the next guy (OK, maybe not as much as some, but more than most), but I
>don't care for all the drunks picking fights and puking over people in
>front of them.  Since most people at games don't seem to drink responsibly,
>I say to hell with 'em.  Ban beer at Univerity events.  Of course, it doesn't
>seem to make a lot of difference--many people smuggle it in.  In my experience,
>the thing that limits alcohol consumption the most is a damn good team.  
>If everybody is fixated on the game, people are less likely to drink (at
>least to excess, which is the real problem).

You got that right.  I barely remember any football Saturdays at Purdue,
and it isn't because my memory is bad.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: Re: Anyone want a list of 92 Colorado Recruits posted?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:53:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.165104.28499@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul28.151043.16612@ncar.ucar.edu> ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>> 
>> Now that we all know how to spell ROBIEE and know exactly where to O-Bowl is
>> played lets start talking about the up-coming season. The first issue of
>> the Buffalo Sports News has a list of 92 Colorado freshmen recuits.
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Gee, and all the rest of the schools were only allowed to sign about 20.
> 
>> Is anyone 
>> interested in having me post it?
>
>Naaaahhh.
>
Have to agree with that, (no offense intended) but could somebody out there
post a list of the Wisconsin Badger recruits? Probably for the first time
ever, they were ranked in the top 20. I'd like to see how they stacked up
against the rest of the Big 11.

--Salty

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Test
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:36:46 GMT

Sorry, just a test.


 
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From: dwjohnso@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID WILLIAM JOHNSON)
Subject: Re: Miami Hurricanes (was: Comments wanted)
Originator: dwjohnso@c00037-5pa.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dwjohnso@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID WILLIAM JOHNSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:20:02 GMT


For all the people who wanted to raise hell about my posting.
My mail-handler went nuts and decided to pull in all kinds of things,
but practice what you preach.  I've so far seen my entire article 
quoted verbatim at least three times and to this long article one line 
is added.  If you need to see your own words, use a pencil and paper.
-- 
******************************************************************
* David Johnson          *         " Reality is                  *
* North Carolina State   *               not all                 *
* Go Pack !!!!           *                  it's cracked         *
* Go Canes !!!!          *                      up to be "       *
***********   146 days and a wakeup   ****************************
From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Shockers
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul18.171005.28450@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes...
#I see that recent trip to Austin has left you a little more orange than
#usual.

I guess it was that hour or so I spent listening to your wonderful governor
Ann Richards:  she certainly brought a tear to my eye (I was crying over how
anyone that vacuous could ever be elected to political office).  Still, it
wasn't the most recent trip to Austin that turned me burnt orange:  it was
the one back in the fall when I saw all those Texas Sweethearts (or whatever
they're called) at the Auburn-Texas game.  Of course, two years in San
Antonio didn't do any harm before that.

#  Speaking of ugly, err burnt, things, perhaps you stayed out in the 
#*sun* a little too long while you were down here.  

Actually, I did:  how did you know?  I sat one afternoon at the VCU-Creighton
baseball game.  That Texas sun certainly wreaked havoc on this Buffalonians
white skin.

#     Otherwise you might 
#have recalled that the *Sun* Bowl was replaced by the John Hancock Bowl
#a few years back after receiving sponsorship and after that infamous game
#in which it was snowing during the Sun Bowl.

What?  And you believed them?  Look, it's always been the Sun Bowl, and
it always will be the Sun Bowl!  And when A&M plays there New Years Eve,
it'll still be the Sun Bowl to me.

#- goober (life must be hell for you...a hurricane bulldog with a 
#          burnt orange streak :-) smith

Pure hell.  Add to that an inability to keep from saying "Fight on" whenever
I hear the word Trojan, and I guess you could say I'm *really* screwed up.

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
V262XXVE@UBVMS.BITNET
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: GaTech "Doing It Again"
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:04:35 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <64005@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>Not *that* impressive, but at least the part about "the cesspool of
>the South" has been true every year! ;->

Oh, I dunno, Mark, I may have to side with Pitts on this one. Athens
isn't such a horrible place at all. Taco Stand, swimming in the Broad
River, 40 Watt, Reverend Ruth's Drive-in Bible Garden...

I think for its size and lack of sophistication, its actually pretty
charming as hick towns go...

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hey Cliff...
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:47:15 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>>garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>>>
>>>Hey Cliff, what is the name of that dumb Miami bird mascot?
>>>
>>Hey goob, I don't know, I just root for whoever is playing the Fighting
>>Frenchmen.
>>
>Hey Cliff, let's get together and drink a fifth of some 12 year old Scotch.
>
>
>- goober (am i in?) smith

Yes, goober, you are now a FOOL for life.

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Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Truth is a statue, and you are all just 
University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Joe 'Roby' (was Re: I do, but do you..)
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:36:15 GMT
Organization: Chevron

Jim Pinkelman writes:
>Hate to burst your bubble, but ND has never played at "Joe Roby Stadium".
>Orange Bowls are played at the "Orange Bowl" in Miami.  I was at the
>ND-Colorado game a year and a half ago and I stood with about 1,000
>ND Students for the entire game.
>
>I would expect "REAL FOOTBALL FANS" to know in what stadium the Orange
>Bowl is played.
 
 I would expect "REAL FOOTBALL FANS" to read the previous articles in
 this here r.s.f.c and quit answering the same questions over and over
 again.
 
-- 
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GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!      | "You may have a city slicker haircut,
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!      |  but your heart is shaped like a bowl."
James Clyde     LSU '91   |                   -- Frisco Darlin
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: fans (was ND fans)
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:33:40 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) wrote:
}
}C'mon guys.  I think we all know it depends on the individual.

But we don't *all* know it - that's what started this.  Certain fans
of Our Lady would have the rest of us believe all Fighting Frenchmen
fans are angels sent from heaven.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
"We live in a universe swarming with particles of filth that are ceaselessly 
 trying to get into our homes, similar to insurance salespersons."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Subject: Re: PAC 10 Heismans (was: Heisman Poll Update)
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:05:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.171542.29352@leland.Stanford.EDU>
tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes:
>
>In article <22008@venera.isi.edu> tlh@.isi.edu (Tom Hamilton) writes:
>>
>>How many heismans does the pac-10 own. Of couse I know of SC's 4 and I
>>know there is at least 1 more. Anyone?
>
>$tanfurd's got one, Plunkett won it in '72.
>
>
>========================================================
>| Marc Tremblay                  |  There's no time    |
>| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  like the pleasant  |
>========================================================
 
Nice try.  The 1972 Heisman trophy winner was Johnny Rodgers of Nebraska.
From: todd@ra.me.wisc.edu (Todd Jekel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Wonderful Bo Schembechler
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:33:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.TODD.92Jul24103318
Organization: /usr/users/todd/.organization
In-reply-to: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu's message of 24 Jul 92 09:51:52 CDT


A Boiler/Badger extolling Bo??  Somethings fishy here...

---
Todd Jekel
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND stops series w/Miami (was Re: Wash-ND)
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:16:55 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) wrote:
}
}Highly unlikely.  With Penn St. committed to the Blockbuster Bowl this
}year, and tied up in Big 10 bowls in future years, the only likely
}scenario is if both Penn St. and Notre Dame have very bad years, ending
}up something like 7-4 each ...

Well if Notre Dame ends up with a "very bad year" and is 7-4, they
still get to go to the Bowl Alliance.  Remember how they pulled their
bully tactics on the bowls when the thing was being negotiated, and
insisted they be let in with only 7 wins?

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
 "When some cold tomorrow finds you, when some subtle dream reminds you
  how the endless road unwinds you, while you see a chance, take it ..."
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hey Cliff...
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:53:16 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Jul30.194541.17241@tamsun.tamu.edu> garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>Hey Cliff, what is the name of that dumb Miami bird mascot?

Dear Gary,

The bird is the mighty Ibis. We Miami fans love the Ibis, because it is
the first bird to leave before a Hurricane and the last to return after
the storm is over. It is so mighty that it is just this side of the
Spoonbill and Sandhill Crane on the "Fearsome Continuum". We call ours
"Sebastian" and he is the bestest mascot of them all. We think this bird
represents all the positive virtues of the Great University of Miami
(Fl.).

CANEZ R00LZ DUDEZ

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu

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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Michigan RB's Was: Re: Heisman Poll Update
Keywords: here we go again...
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:45:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.035347.26298@u.washington.edu>, archmage@milton.u.washington.edu (Michael Bakkemo) writes:
|> 
|> Again, for lack of better instructional evidence, look at the Rose Bowl,
|> when they "sort of" played head to head. Tell me, who did better?

I can't believe this is the third time I'm getting into this with yet 
another Washington fan, but here goes :

Another Washington fan commented back in April:
## how will he [Desmond] handle the pros if he couldn't even handle the 
## Huskies' defense in the Rose Bowl?

I think it was more Michigan's offensive line not being able to handle
Washington's defense more than Desmond not handling the defense.  Elvis
barely had time to get Desmond (or any receivers for that matter) the ball
the way the Washington defensive line was rushing in.  I don't want to
rehash through stuff I already said back in January, but you are bringing
up something that was not as much Desmond's fault as it was the offensive
line's.  I don't remember Desmond dropping passes in that game, but I do
remember him not getting as many passes as he did in games during the regular
season because Elvis was rushed all day and he was himself double covered.  
Both contributed.

Still, I do remember an impressive catch in the first half when he jumped
over 2 Washington defenders to make a catch to put Michigan into scoring
range.  That was one of the rare times Elvis got the ball to him, and
even then, it was a forced pass that mostly was completed because of
Desmond's leaping ability.

To imply that Desmond and Mario even "'sort of' played head to head" is
laughable.  Unless you consider the defensive performances by both teams
roughly equivalent, and I certainly don't.

|> The problem I think you'll find on the part of DAWG fans, isn't dogmatic
|> inflexibilty in the Desmond vs Mario debate, it's that lack of anyone 
|> giving Mario his due.

Yeah, no respect at all, from ANYONE even.  Right...

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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