From: eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: The art of posting. soc.culture.mid-east.academia
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:20:08 GMT
Organization: Univerity of Oslo, Semitics dep.

In article <QcT-ZhB@engin.umich.edu> hani@licorice.engin.umich.edu (Hani
Nassif) writes:
>
>Sorry if this posting is repeated twice:
>
>I like what Naji is suggesting, although it is outdated.  I recall
>that 5 out of 6 scl netters, blasted Hassan Multu on his Turkish vs.
>Armenian articles.  However, till now none (without mentionning names)
>out of the 6 people have yet to show a shy comment on Elie's outrageous
>use of words and pictures to bash Arabs and their heritage.  
>
>Should this silence be interpreted as an approval of those postings?
>It seems so.

Hani give me a break!

In article <1992Jul22.181412.28967@njitgw.njit.edu>, elie@hdtv.njit.edu
(...NADINE...) writes:
|> Althought this is not a photo of Lebanon its from the same book, and
|> I thought it was interesting how things were in the 1930s. I am not
|> sure if this is the case now. Maybe we can get some feedback from Ali :-)
|> 
|> Figure caption:
|> 
|> "Stern Schoolmaster of Southern Arabia Instructs his Class Assembled in the
|>  Open Air"
|> 
|> Only the boys go to school in Arabia, since, according to strict Mohammedan
                                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> teaching, it would be a waste of time to educate girls, who spend their 
   ^^^^^^^^^
|> lives attending to household affairs.



Since when you where an expert on Mohammadian teaching and moslem affairs?
If you want to discuss a religion that you are an not familiar with, I suggest
you go back to the source of that religion,,i.e. Koran, Hadith and even
reliable 
Ijtihad, understand the issue, and support your claim.

Until then please stop throwing around theories that you don`t really believe
in.

Wassim Alami

 
>Only the boys go to school in Arabia, since, according to strict Mohammedan
>teaching, it would be a waste of time to educate girls, who spend their 
>lives attending to household affairs. In most Arab schools, however, the
>boys only learn to read the Koran, their holy book, and to recite long 
>passages of it from memory. Modern learning and even the scientific 
>knowledge possessed by the Saracens, their forefathers, are considered to
>be wicked. The cane plays as important a part in Arabian education as it
>did a few years ago in this country. (meaning USA) 

I don't know whether you are quoting something or making it up.  Either way,
your posting it is to approve of it:

HATE Muslims
HATE Arabs
HATE Muslims
HATE Arabs
HATE HATE HATE HATE..

Don't you have something else to do than to hate?

We're moving into the 21st century and your still left in the dark ages
hating Arabs and Muslims.  Wake up.

FYI in Mar-Elias Btina, as a student, I used to get hit with a cane every 
week for refusing to memorise poesie.

If you want your Muslim compatriots to be with you to liberate our country
from usurperers, start by respecting their believes, but I guess your mind is 
already closed.  I feel pity for you.  May God save you from your ignorance.

bassem

In article <1992Jul23.024845.8473@prism.poly.edu> medawar@prism.poly.edu
(Bassem Medawar) writes:
>>Only the boys go to school in Arabia, since, according to strict Mohammedan
>>teaching, it would be a waste of time to educate girls, who spend their 
>>lives attending to household affairs. In most Arab schools, however, the
>>boys only learn to read the Koran, their holy book, and to recite long 
>>passages of it from memory. Modern learning and even the scientific 
>>knowledge possessed by the Saracens, their forefathers, are considered to
>>be wicked. The cane plays as important a part in Arabian education as it
>>did a few years ago in this country. (meaning USA) 
>
>I don't know whether you are quoting something or making it up.  Either way,
>your posting it is to approve of it:
>
>HATE Muslims
>HATE Arabs
>HATE Muslims
>HATE Arabs
>HATE HATE HATE HATE..
>
>Don't you have something else to do than to hate?
>
>We're moving into the 21st century and your still left in the dark ages
>hating Arabs and Muslims.  Wake up.
>
>FYI in Mar-Elias Btina, as a student, I used to get hit with a cane every 
>week for refusing to memorise poesie.
>
>If you want your Muslim compatriots to be with you to liberate our country
>from usurperers, start by respecting their believes, but I guess your mind is 
>already closed.  I feel pity for you.  May God save you from your ignorance.
>
>bassem
>
>


It is important to note that the statement (I suppose Ironically) quoted by
Elie M. would be regarded by most scholars as nonesence.

To start with the term Muhammedan is not used except in un-scholarly and
usually ignorant circles. Worse yet is the therm: Saracens. It is completely a
Western invention when it is applyied to Arabs.

The knowledge that was possessed by the forefathers of the Saracens has
contibuted very much to the education and enhancement of "European" knowledge
and renaissance. They are by no means wicked, even if one would object at some
aspects of it. Having said that, there were/ are many aspects that one can
object to in European education. THis written in the 30's would be at a time
when most European schools followed the same system of hitting as a punishment!


Bass Ya Bassem, please leave Mar Elias Btina alone! :)



elie wardini



are these enough examples?

or do you wish to look the other way?

>-Hani

elie wardini
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