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From: wyant@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Pat Wyant)
Subject: Help with partitioning using Adaptec
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Adaptec 1542b scsi partition format Syquest
Organization: DuPont Engineering Physics Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:11:08 GMT


  My recently acquired Adaptec SCSI controller, and associated software, will
not allow me to partition and high-level format a Syquest cartridge.  When
supported by the Adaptec BIOS (SCSI ID 0), I can read and write to a previously
partitioned cartridge, but FDISK (from DR-DOS) will not progress past the first
5 sectors when partitioning/formatting.  When supported by the Adaptec driver
ASPIDISK (SCSI ID 2), I can again read/write from a cartridge but AFDISK
"hangs" when partitioning a new cartridge.  A low-level formatting utility
which I downloaded from Adaptec's BBS works fine.

  Fearing further contact with Adaptec technical support, does anyone have
suggestions for a resolution to this problem?  No errors or warnings appear
at any time, but the partitioning tasks merely freeze after a few sectors.
Could it be some conflict between DR-DOS and Adaptec?  Is there some area
of high memory which should not be used by the memory manager (the range
C800-CC00 is being excluded by 386MAX for the controller; D800-DC00 is
the default range for the controller but I moved it)?  I am told that
Adaptec works well with DR-DOS, so I am unsure of this problem.

  Email would be best.  Thank you for your suggestions.


                                      Patrick Wyant
                                      Wilmington, DE 19880-0320
                                      wyant@eplrx7.es.dupont.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Wanted: SCSI standard
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:42:03 GMT

What is the latest version of the SCSI standard to come from ANSI.  All I
need is the collection of alphanumerics that specify the standard (like
UYT876G-1995 or whatever it is).  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Subject: Re: CAM
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:57:44 GMT



In article <38486@cbmvax.commodore.com> jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes:

   milton@teal.csn.org (Milton Scritsmier) writes:
   > Other problems I've seen
   >with SCSI resets with another vendor included getting lost if RESET was
   >held too long on the SCSI bus, failing to respond to selection within
   >250 ms after the end of the RESET, and getting lost if selected too soon
   >(soon being 20 seconds after the RESET ended). These where top-of-the-line
   >drives from vendors with good reputations.
   >
   >When I asked the firmware developers about it their responses indicated
   >that they had made implicit assumptions that the drive would always be
   >in a single initiator environment, would only see resets near power-on,
   >and would have 30 seconds or so after power-on or reset before the
   >initiator selected the drive for the first time. Thus while the firmware
   >developers got the obvious multiple commands from multiple initiator
   >stuff right, they missed more subtle things.

	   A lot of vendors have problems like this.  We found them because
   Amigas are commonly ready to access their drives within <1-4 seconds of
   power-on or reset.  So long as the drive is nice and at least returns BUSY
   we'll wait for it to initialize itself.

	   We had to add a switch to make the driver delay 15 seconds before 
   scanning the bus to support a fair number of drives.

SCSI devices powering on or after a Bus reset is a major challenge
because there is no spec for it and so everyone does something a
little different.  I have had some drives that return BUSY status
until they are ready, some return a CHECK CONDITION and indicate that
they are coming up.  Still others don't respond to selection until
they feel like it, maybe 10 seconds or so.  I think by 10-20 seconds
all the drives I have tested are happy.

It took me almost a year of minor refinements before my power on
sniffing routines are robust enough that I haven't had to teach them a
new drive in the last 6 months or a year.

jv

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From: landis@sugs.tware.com (Hale Landis)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Degaussing Hard Disks?
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:07:33 GMT
Organization: SUGS

Most hard disk drives have some sort of servo information recorded
on them at the factory.  Without this information, the drive can
not operate.  This information can not be recreated once the drive
has left the factory.

Don't bulk erase your drive unless you really intend that it become
a paper weight!

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Hale Landis                           Santa Cruz, CA USA
408-423-4017          -or-                  408-439-2443
landis@sugs.tware.com -or- hale_landis@notes.seagate.com
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From: altitude@css.itd.umich.edu (Alexander King Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Need Value info for Drive&contoller
Date: 13 Jan 1993 04:46:59 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
NNTP-Posting-Host: uglymouse.css.itd.umich.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Hi.  I'm looking to buy a secondary SCSI drive for my PC (I have an IDE
drive currently.)  I have found a retailer who sells the Rodime RO3259T
210 MB for $299.  This retailer also sells the Future Domain 1660 Controller
for $49.  This deal sounds too good to be true.  

I've spoken with Future Domain tech support, and they seem OK.  I obviously
can not get in touch with Rodime because they went under.  Could someone
please give me more info on these two products such as reliability, 
compatability, speed, and other stuff like that.  I would like to buy this
drive and controller soon so any responses asap would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanx.



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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: wongb@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (Berton Wong)
Subject: CorelSCSI Interface Card
Organization: McGill University, EE Lab, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:56:30 GMT

I've seen a few posts mentioning the CorelSCSI drivers package for
various interface cards. Is anyone using the CorelSCSI interface card?

I'm considering this card because it was pretty cheap compared to an
Adaptec 1542. (159$CDN)

I want to connect an old Segate ST296N to an ISA bus 386-25 clone. I have the
original ST02 adapter that came with the drive but its floppy controller
conflicts with a new IDE/floppy/multiIO card. I'm running MSDOS 5.0 and
OS/2 2.0

According to the ad on the box, the CorelSCSI card comes with many drivers
for all sorts of devices under DOS, OS/2 and UNIX. It doesn't say very much
about the card and its performance.

I would appreciate any conments about this card or any other cards that might
work in this configuration.

Thanks...
From: manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Help with partitioning using Adaptec
Summary: Problems reaching Adaptec tech support.
Keywords: Adaptec 1542b scsi partition format Syquest
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:05:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA

I sympathize with you, I could not reach Adaptec tech support
and I gather that you have had similar problems.
In my attempts to reach them I went from phone que to phone que,
you then wait while a meesage tells you to hols on and wait and
you wait some more (more of same message) ... then after a long
while another message comes on and tells you to leave a message
on the voice mail and does not let you continue to hold (how
nice!@) or hold for an operator, but the message tells you that
to get to the live operator will entail a further LONG delay. So
naturally you choose to leave the voice-mail message, right?
WRONG! You now get another recording that tells you their is no
more room to record your message, so half an hour later you have
no choice but to hang up! I am clearly frustrated.
It helps to vent. THe one saving grace was that it was a 800
number.

I sure hope that Adaptec gets this cleared up quickly, I'm sure
I am not the only frustrated caller.


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	Brooklyn, NY            *
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: stown@cpd.Tandem.COM (Scott Townsend)
Subject: Which SCSI interface to use for CDROM 
Keywords: SCSI,CDROM,Adaptec,Toshiba, Trantcor,Future Domain
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:51:27 GMT

I am about to buy a high performance CDROM with a SCSI interface and
I have three possible choices for connecting the SCSI interface. I am
not familiar enough with SCSI in PC environments to make this decision
without some help. I am hoping that someone who is knowledgeable in
this area will help me sort out what to do.

I am thinking of purchasing Toshiba's new T3401 External CDROM drive.
This drive has the following specs: 190ms access, 327kbs transfer rate,
and a 256kb buffer. I have the following choices for installing this drive:

	1. Connect the device SCSI interface to the Trantcor SCSI interface
           on my Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sounboard. For $35 I can buy the
	   drivers and connector kit from Media Vision. Presently nothing
            is connected to this SCSI interface. 

	2. Connect the Drive SCSI interface to my ADAPTEC 1542 SCSI
	   controller. Presently, this interface is used for my hard
	   disk and floppy drives. I am aware of the drivers that I
           need to make this interface work, Hitachi says they will sell
           me the necessary driver for Adaptec for $54. Also, if
           I choose to go this way, I will need to still buy the  
           Media Vision Connector kit so that I can connect the CDROM
           audio output to the sound board. 

	3. Connect the drive SCSI interface to the interface card that
           Toshiba sells. The card is an 8-bit Future Domain TMC-845
           SCSI-2 card that sells for $100. If I choose to go this way,
            I still will need to buy the Media Vision Connector kit to
           connect the CDROM audio output to the sound board unless there
           is a connector on the Future Domain board . If the connector
           exists then a simple cable inside the PC will be adequate to
            make the connection.
 
 I am trying to build high performance multimedia capabilities into my
 system, and performance is a higher priority than cost. I have read some
 of the horor stories of CDROM/SCSI installations, and I am trying to
 find out all the facts before I pay my money and am committed to a
 certain interface.

 Any help that you can give me will be greatly appreciated. I will share
 with the net what I learn and how it all comes out.

 Thanks,

 Scott                      

	   
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: milton@teal.csn.org (Milton Scritsmier)
Subject: Re: CAM
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:38:01 GMT

In article <38228@cbmvax.commodore.com> jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes:
>>
>>    All of the disk devices that we know about will complete the current
>>sector and then enter the Unit Attention condition.  This way the drivers
>>on the systems, single or multi-initiator can recover or terminate their
>>current I/O.  At least from one point of view, a companies liability
>>paranoia, it is not the system software that is corrupting the media.
>
>	A multi-initiator system may well not recover from that.  Since the
>other initiators are of course disconnected, they will not normally notice
>the unit attention condition, they'll merely wait for the target to reselect
>them (which it won't).  I'm not sure you can count on all initiators being
>able to notice a hard-reset, and I'm pretty certain you can't count on
>most initiators to handle error recovery from it.

Wouldn't you at least expect the initiators involved to time-out a
target if it fails to complete the command (because of the reset)?
A time-out should generate an action such as an Abort message to the
target followed by a retry (in which case the initiator would see the
Unit Attention condition), or even a hard reset (but to avoid an infinite
loop among all the initiators, they would have to be able to deal with
seeing a reset themselves).

It seems to me that if an initiator in a system designed for multiple
initiators cannot do something similar, it has no business being
in that system. No doubt that's just wishful thinking...

 
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: 81239@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Andreschrterinformatik)
Subject: NEED: jumpersettings for wd piranha 2400
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 07:30:32 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim

i just got a new disk and no jumpersettings. the disk has no removable
terminators, they are configured with jumpers. but how???

thank you
  andre schroeter

e-mail: andre@borneo.inet.dkfz-heidelberg.de
        81239@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: THOGER@bg1.hbg.hydro.no (Terje Thoegersen)
Subject: Re: HELP !! Adaptec 1542 to slooow
Organization: Norsk Hydro, Hydro Data
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 15:13:59 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <1993Jan11.123748.42656@urz.unibas.ch> monfreda@urz.unibas.ch writes:

> Hi,
> I have a 486 with a noname SCSI Host who has a Future Domain chip on it, 
> and was getting (measured with Checkit 3.0) a transferrate of about 330
> KBytes/sec (This is too sloooow). I'm now trying to install an Adaptec 
> 1542b SCSI-Host on my 486. The two HD's connected are a Seagate ST1239N 
> and a Maxtor 7120SR. I tried several combinations of IRQ, DMA channel 
> and other settings on the board. But the max. transferrate is 460 KBytes/sec.
> This is not a software problem, I think.
>  
> The motherboard is a UM486 (33MHz), and has a UMC chipset, and a AMI BIOS 
> dated 7/7/91.
> 

Hi!

I don't know if this is you problem, but MS' smartdrv.exe installed in
config.sys with the /double_buffer option pulled the transfer rate on
my Bustek BT-742 from ~1300 down to about 350k. Installing the BTSCSI.SYS
instead (ASPI4DOS.SYS in your case) brought the rate back up again. This 
also cures the problem smartdrv /double_buffer was supposed to fix.

Regards,
  -Terje



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From: cyberman@exucom.com (Stephen R. Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Sequential SCSI
Date: 9 Jan 93 17:27:23 GMT
Organization: ExuCom Multimedia Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


Neophyte question here
Is it possible to use the SCSI bus sequenctially?
IE send a stream of characters to a high speed printer?
If so is it possible to use it bidirectionally?
IE send and recieve from said printer

Cyberman
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From: kev@hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (Kevin Jones)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:41:45 GMT
Subject: Re: DATs and DAT tape prices
Organization: HP Computer Peripherals Bristol, UK
From: jching@watnow.uwaterloo.ca (John Y. Ching)
Subject: Is there a newer version of ASW-1410 drivers for AHA1542B?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:50:22 GMT

Hi,
Lately, I have been having some problems running some newer DOS
programs (read GAMES) on my system.  I have a 486/33 with an
AHA1542B running ASPI4DOS with a single SCSI drive.  I also
have an ATI Graphics Ultra+ and a Sound Blaster Pro.  I have
been unable to try my Christmas present: The Lost Files of
Sherlock Holmes, because my system hangs whenever it is
loaded.  If I remove the ASPI4DOS.SYS from my config.sys,
the game runs but I don't get to use EMM for the neat
sound effects and speech.  The problem is also related
to the SBPro, since it runs ok in Adlib mode (again,
no speech of course).  I tried using the /W and
/WM flags with ASPI4DOS with no success.

Is there a newer version of ASPI4DOS?  My disk says
Version 3.0 Rev-A, and the files is dated 6-20-91, file
size 10712.  I tried looking for it on the Adaptec
BBS, but I couldn't find it.  I suppose if there is a
new version, I will have to pay for it.  Any help
is greatly appreciated.

-- 
 John Y. Ching (jching@watnow.waterloo.edu)     
 Pattern Analysis and Machine Intelligence Group
 Department of Systems Design Engineering      
 University of Waterloo, Canada            
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: sramsdell@ws19.ips.iacd.honeywell.com (Steve Ramsdell)
Subject: Re: Ultrastore 34F (VESA LB SCSI)
Organization: Honeywell Industrial Automation & Control
Distribution: comp.periphs.scsi
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 16:58:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.101322.20842@sfu.ca>, mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy) writes:
|> As far as I know it's the only VL-BUS SCSI HA available right now.
|> Please correct me if I'm wrong.  Anyways, I like it.  It's fast.
|> I'm only only using it with DOS 5 right now.  No problems so
|> far.

I have heard that AIR has several VLB cards, including a VLB SCSI controller
to go along with their VLB motherboards (which have 3 VLB slots).  I know
nothing about them, they may resell the Ultrastore, or it may be their own.
-- 

Steve Ramsdell
Honeywell, Inc., Phoenix, AZ
sramsdell@ips.iacd.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: cmh061@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Batman)
Subject: Re: A1200 Monitors
Organization: Coventry University, UK
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:25:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.065442.11537@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham) writes:
>
>Does anyone know it a Mitsubishi Dimondscan 1371A will work with the AGA?
>
>Someone said the 1381A will in all modes.  What about the quality of the
>Mitsubishi display?
>
>

Ive heard that the do actually work, but dont quote me on that, A friend 
of mine in the US has got one and hes said it worked fine on his 1200.

Can anyone help me with this problem?
My 1200 seems to have lost the colour white.! Its not the TV as I checked
my 500 on it, Its a real pain as the boot up screen is a shitty brown
colour.

Thanks in advance
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.hp
From: denny@cd.com (Dennis Cronin)
Subject: HP ditches CAM support in HP-UX 9.0
Keywords: SCSI, CAM
Organization: Central Data Corp., Champaign, IL
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:22:19 GMT


Why did HP drop CAM support from their 9.0 release of HP-UX?  Anybody
out there have any clues?  Their 8.0 OS provided a reasonable start at
a CAM implementation but when we set out to port our scsiTerminal
Server driver over to 9.0 we found the CAM layer totally missing.  In
its place is apparently simply some common code shared by the various
SCSI device drivers but no real structured general purpose interface.

There in fact appears to be no dedicated SCSI command struct
whatsoever-- they're just "hiding" those little CDB bytes in unused
fields of the main system buf header!

What happened?  It seems to be a step backwards.

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 Central Data Corporation           |       the superstition of
  Champaign, IL   217-359-8010      |         Western Science.
      dennyc@cd.com                 |
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 Central Data Corporation           |     Where men were men,
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,soc.culture.japan,ne.general,misc.invest
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Server Fault Tolerant H/W Sources Sought
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:31:39 GMT

MW> == "Michael Willett" <MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM>

 MW> They are handling their contacts with the USENET readers on
 MW> a personal basis, rather than posting comments.  They seem to prefer
 MW> the personal contact, rather than just issuing marketing blurbs.

They leave that part up to Mike Willett.

 MW> That's why they concentrate on real live demonstrations at computer
 MW> shows, such as next week's Novell NetWorld show in Boston where they'll
 MW> be exhibiting again.  (I'll probably be stopping by on Wednesday.)

You should be easily recognizable as the man walking around with the "will
post for food" T-shirt.

 MW> In general, we here in New England are very proud of our electronics
 MW> manufacturing industry and think our electronics firms are second
 MW> to none, including the Japanese electronics firms.  Our firms are
 MW> concentrating on TQM just like the Japanese firms, and we expect
 MW> our Route 128/495 electronics firms to be a major contributor to
 MW> that big US export push that is starting.

The big push, no doubt, coming first in exporting USENET postings with
not-very-cleverly disguised advertisements in them.
--
Christopher K. Davis      | ``Usenet seems to run much like the Kif (or,
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   |   for the TV generation, Klingon) high command.
System Administrator, EFF |   Whoever takes action and can be heard wins.''
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   |   --Peter da Silva <peter@ferranti.com>
From: Toby Russell <tar90@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Urgently Wanted - SMD > SCSI convertor
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:40:04 GMT
Organization: Southampton University
Originator: tar90@chapman

Does anyone have an SMD to SCSI convertor ( standard SMD not the faster
XMD ) ? I've been given two 515mb SMD drives which I would like to connect
to one of my machines.

							Toby
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From               :  Toby Russell	Email    : tar90@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bunch@CS.Stanford.EDU (Charles Bunch)
Subject: ExaByte 8mm Tape for Mac
Keywords: ExaByte, backup, Mac
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:33:17 GMT


We are considering buying the 2.2 Gig ExaByte 8mm Tape for the
Mac.  Does anyone have any experiences with that system which
might influence our purchasing decision?  
Has this drive been reviewed in any recent publications?

Thanks for any info.

Charles Bunch
bunch@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: mwpoag@thurston.austin.ibm.com (Michael Wayne Poag)
Subject: st01 spin-up command
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:40:55 GMT
Reply-To: mwpoag@thurston.austin.ibm.com (Michael Wayne Poag)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX
Keywords: st01 linux spin-up

anyone know how to send the spin-up command to a scsi drive
on Linux or dos

I have a DEC RZ23 drive made by conner, it does'nt have a 
jumper for spin-up at power-on...

any dos debug offsets for the st01 to do this?

all help appreciated