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From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer )
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Lyrics for "Imagine"
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:45:39 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <20129@plains.NoDak.edu>, herreid@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd J. Herreid) writes:
> Could someone please post a copy of the lyrics to the JohnLennon song "Imagine"? Thanks, Todd Herreid 
> 


Imagine there's no heavan
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

Imagine all the people
Living life in Peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Imagine all possisions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people
Living life in Peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one





That was by memory, so I stand corrected on anything I messed up on.


Mike

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From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Subject: Re: Harrison original or cover?
Summary: Rudy Clark - "Got My Mind Etc."
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:58:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.053341.7321@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.232923.809@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>>Yes, the song is a cover.  It was a relatively obsure pop tune by some
>>group in the 60's, if I remember correctly.
>Not "group", artist.  The man's name was Rudy Clark, and he was indeed
>fairly obscure.   For the record, the original version of the song is
>very different then George's, and George did a wonderful job of re-arranging
>the rather meandering tune into a good, tight rock song.  It is also 
>interesting to note that George actually requested the song on at least one 
>occasion during an interview in 1963...

Rudy Clark was the songwriter, if memory serves; James Ray was the artist
who sang "Got My Mind Set On You" on an album from 1963 (you're right---the
Ray arrangement is more gospel-tinged than Harrison's, whose version is
decidedly upbeat). Ray also had a hit (in major markets) with "If You've
Got To Make A Fool Of Somebody" in 1961. R.m.b.'ers with long memories
should recall when this song, with its haunting harmonica, made its debut
in the hit parade.

"If You've Got To Etc." was alleged (by Lewisohn, among others) to have
been part of the Beatles' repertoire in their Cavern days, though I don't
believe a recording of their rendition survived. It *was* popular among
Beat groups in Liverpool, and it was natural that George, on holiday with
brother Peter Harrison in September-October 1963 in the US, should visit
record stores looking for more Clark/Ray material. George mentioned in
a recent interview (Musician?) that he picked up a copy of "Got My Mind
Etc." on that trip and brought it back for the other Fabs to hear. Apparently
they were less impressed. George's arrangement though is indeed terrific...
worth waiting a couple of decades for.
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From: caj@sei.cmu.edu (Carol Jarosz)
Subject: Re: The Simpsons
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:02:35 GMT


In article <1992Aug31.032821.21349@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>, CS19240760T@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (VURGUN, SINAN) writes:
|> 
|> 	Yesterday while watching a rerun of The Simpsons I saw
|> 	a cartoon version of Ringo. Could somebody please tell me 
|> 	whether or not it was Ringo's voice talking or was it 
|> 	someone else
|> 			Thanx in advance

Yes, that was Ringo's voice you heard.  It was a good episode, no?

Carol
caj@sei.cmu.edu
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Abbey Road Cover - What does it mean?
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:30:10 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Aug31.055934.27430@mr.med.ge.com> hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987) writes:

>I heard that that Beetle sold at Southeby's a few years back for some ungodly
>sum of money.  How do they know it was the right one?

It has been said that in Britain cars are assigned license plates for
life. (Quite unlike the US, where a car gets new plates with each change
of ownership...)

I have also heard stories (possible read in The Book) about how the
previous owner of the car was quite miffed that people kept stealing
his license plates!!!

						James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all.}
From: williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: harrisonews
Keywords: harrison
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:59:46 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology


Recently I heard that George might tour (somewhere besides Japan) and that
he plans to release a studio album in the fall.
Does anyone(anybody) know
  1. Does George plan to tour in the U.S.?
  2. Is George in the studio now?
  3. Is the album release date planned for this fall or the fall of '93?

I was also wondering if anyone bought the WonderWall CD or has the LP and
what they thought of it.
  
Many thanks(in advance).

P.S. I heard that Shakespear's Sister recorded their song "Stay" in George   
  Harrison's home studio(F.P.S.H.O.T)...    

--
-williasr@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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"Take my smile and my heart they were yours from the start"
From: paul@moore.com (Paul Maclauchlan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: I'm Down
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:36:12 GMT
Organization: Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto ON, Canada
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"Jason M. Roth" (jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: According to Lewisohn in the PMVol.1 notes, I'm Down was recorded at the
: same session as Yesterday (certainly showing Paul at his greatest, and
: at his greatest extremes).

(from THE Book)

Monday 14 June 1965

Studio Two: 2:30-5:30pm Recording: "I've Just Seen A Face" (takes 1-6);
				   "I'm Down" (takes 1-7).
Studio Two: 7:00-10:00pm Recording: "Yesterday" (takes 1-2).

"A remarkable day's work."

: But I've always understood that Paul was the
: only one there for Yesterday, and yet I'm Down surely contains all 4
: Boys. What's the deal?

Quoting Lewisohn:

"Newspapers of the time made a big fuss of the fact that none of the other
 Beatles played on the recording [of "Yesterday"], and that they were not
 even in the studio.  This myth has persisted for more than 20 years, but
 while none of the others did play on "Yesterday", George Harrison, if
 not John and Ringo, was certainly present, his voice coming acros loud
 and clear at one point on the original session tape."

So, that's "the deal".  I guess the myth is still alive, even 4 years
since the facts were published.

-- 
.../Paul Maclauchlan
Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto, Ontario (416) 364-2600
paul@moore.com   -or-  {...!uunet.ca,...!telly}!moore!paul
"Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see"/JL'67
From: jcollier@cs.man.ac.uk (Jim Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: BBC Poll
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:16:38 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.



 	The BBC National Radio 1 channel, which is mainly for teens &
 twenties conducted a poll of its listeners asking people to vote for 
 there all time favourite recordings. The top one hundred selections
 were played consecutively on air.
	The list contained six Beatle recordings :-
	 Imagine    John Lennon    :-  4
	 Hey Jude   Beatles        :-  9
	 Strawberry
	 Fields     Beatles        :- 50?
	 Yesterday  Beatles        :- 60?
	 Let it be  Beatles        :- 70?
	 Mull of
	 Kintyre    Paul McCartney :- 70?


	The all time number one was Queen's  Bohemian Rhapsody. 

TTFN Jim C
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From: ers1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (eugene.r.schroeder)
Subject: Re: Las vegas
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:01:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.180606.4239@indetech.com> lzs@indetech.com (Lynn Z. Schneider) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.113529.4752@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ers1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (eugene.r.schroeder) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug20.143038.27201@pbhya.PacBell.COM> gdridle@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Guy D. Ridley) writes:
>>>BTW, I see billboards around here for Ringo at Las Vegas.  Anyone remember
>>>Lennon's quote about retiring so his career wouldn't wind down to the point
>>>where he'd be playing Vegas?  I too find it a bit disturbing to see the
>>>superstars of my youth playing Vegas.
>>
>>The Oldsmobile TV commericial is what made me cringe.
>>
>>Gene
>
>Me, too! ("Oh daa-day" says Ringo's grown daughter in the new generation
>of Olds....bluuuck!!!")
>
>But hey, at least he's sober and working. I mean, it would be really horrible
>if he just faded into obscurity and lived his live in and out of recovery
>clinics. At least he's trying....even if that does mean Vegas and
>car commercials! Here in Northern California, he played a large
>AMUSEMENT PARK recently! I mean...all I could think was "Poor, poor Ringo!"
>But again, at least he's doing something constructive...
>

You're right.  He could have ended up in the dead letter box
with Mal.

Gene
From: mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:22:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Apple? Badfinger? Straight Up?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

In rec.music.beatles, yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons) writes:

> There is a radio station in Chicago (97.9 WLUP) that has a CD info hotline. I
> called them a month ago for the same info and they told me October was the
> release date of Straight Up. No Dice is out on CD now (their first album).
> Anybody bought this yet, I was wondering if it contained Can't Live which 
> was a number one hit for Harry Nielsen

Yes, _No Dice_ is out on CD.  So is _Magic Christian Music_.  _No Dice_
does contain "Without You" which was later performed by Harry Nilsson.

Michael Bishop
From: David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Elmore James & George
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:23:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Sep2.152347.21809
 <92244.164749BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu> 
 <1992Sep1.151445.4345@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
 <7153835142797@c00481-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a2@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <7153835142797@c00481-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu>
jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith) writes:

> In article <1992Sep1.151445.4345@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> 
> David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield) writes:
> >In article <92244.164749BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu>
> >Didn't George play slide way back on Drive My Car?  I don't have
> >Lewison's book here with me to consult.
> 
> I believe that was Paul.

Wow.  Did Paul play slide on other tunes, as well?

David
david.t.greenfield@dartmouth.edu
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Elmore James & George
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:28:35 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep2.152347.21809@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield) writes:
>In article <7153835142797@c00481-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu>
>jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Sep1.151445.4345@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> 
>> David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield) writes:
>> >In article <92244.164749BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu>
>> >Didn't George play slide way back on Drive My Car?  I don't have
>> >Lewison's book here with me to consult.
>> 
>> I believe that was Paul.
>
>Wow.  Did Paul play slide on other tunes, as well?

"Why Don't We Do It In The Road?"

(BTW, I always thought the slide on this sounded a lot like John's
playing on "Get Back" - sort of a low-key bluesy thing ...)

-- 
David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu
677 Cary Quadrangle
West Lafayette, IN  47906-4243
(317) 495-2843
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From: lzs@indetech.com (Lynn Z. Schneider)
Subject: Re: Las vegas
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:06:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.113529.4752@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ers1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (eugene.r.schroeder) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.143038.27201@pbhya.PacBell.COM> gdridle@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Guy D. Ridley) writes:
>>BTW, I see billboards around here for Ringo at Las Vegas.  Anyone remember
>>Lennon's quote about retiring so his career wouldn't wind down to the point
>>where he'd be playing Vegas?  I too find it a bit disturbing to see the
>>superstars of my youth playing Vegas.
>
>The Oldsmobile TV commericial is what made me cringe.
>
>Gene

Me, too! ("Oh daa-day" says Ringo's grown daughter in the new generation
of Olds....bluuuck!!!")

But hey, at least he's sober and working. I mean, it would be really horrible
if he just faded into obscurity and lived his live in and out of recovery
clinics. At least he's trying....even if that does mean Vegas and
car commercials! Here in Northern California, he played a large
AMUSEMENT PARK recently! I mean...all I could think was "Poor, poor Ringo!"
But again, at least he's doing something constructive...

-Lynn

 
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{sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!lzs
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From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: George's solo work (was Re: Elmore James & George)
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:30:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep3.183152.16488@ddsw1.mcs.com> jailbird@ddsw1.mcs.com (Ron D. Harvey, Professional Bachelor) writes:

[much deleted by many about solo on "Drive My Car"]

>My impression is, George didn't do that much slide work with the
>Beatles; it seems that John did a bit, though during the later days.
>I think George really blossomed as a slide player (seemingly almost
>overnight) in his ex-Beatle years -- to the point that his solos 
>used the slide almost exclusively.
>
>It's the main reason that I liked George's solo music a lot, even 
>though the songs got progressively weaker through the years.  _All 
>Things Must Pass_ is still, in my opinion, the best Beatles solo album.

Hey!  I'm not the only one, then!  It really took me awhile to appreciate
this album, but once you get past the somewhat-pointless jams at the end,
this IS (IMHO) the best collection of solo tunes from any of the Beatles.
Probably (I'd guess) because George spent all those years building up a
catalog of decent tunes that were never given their fair shake with the
rest of the group.  (Although, it'd be interesting to see when all the 
songs on _All Things..._ date from.  I have a bootleg of the _Get Back_
rehearsal sessions that place a quite a few tunes in this period.)

So, while _Plastic Ono Band_ and _Band On The Run_ get all the raves,
once again the quiet Beatle is left behind ...

-- 
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677 Cary Quadrangle
West Lafayette, IN  47906-4243
(317) 495-2843
From: kp@cc.uow.edu.au (Karen Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Silly books and sensible books
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:36:14 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:


>   Albert Goldman and Frederic Seaman have teamed up again to write an 
>unauthorized biography of Yoko Ono.   

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. After all, AG followed up
his original book about Elvis with another book contradicting what
he'd written in the first. (He admitted, with a straight face, that his
mind had been changed about the circumstances of Elvis's death by
_something_he'd_read_in_a_British_tabloid_.)

Given the track record of these two authors, I think we may confidently
expect startling revelations about Yoko's secret two-headed alien
love-child, and how she, in previous lives, was personally responsible
for the Spanish Inquisition, the Massacre of the Innocents and the
Disappearance of the Lost City of Atlantis.

>US publishing rights have been bought by Simon &
>Schuster for "a healthy five-figure sum" 

Either Simon & Schuster have a short memory, or I do. Wasn't S&S
the publishers who initially bought FS's book, but then demanded
their advance back when they saw the drivel that was in it ?
(This was in the pre-Goldman days, before a complete open
season was declared on JL's reputation.)

*****************************************************************

Those who prefer non-fictional works, and live in Australia, may
be interested to know that I was in Angus & Robertson's a
couple of days ago and saw great piles of The Book 
(_Beatles_Complete_Recording_Sessions_ by Mark Lewisohn, softback
version) on sale for just $9.95.

-- 
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*                               *    aliquid belli. "                 *
* kp@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au       *                        - Petronius  *
From: CS19240760T@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (VURGUN, SINAN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Abbey Road
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:57:49 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
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	Could somebody please tell me the answer to a question
	which has been bugging me for ages.
	On the back of the Abbey Road album there is a picture
	of a wall with The Beatles written on top and Abbey Road 
	written below it which has an N following it. I presumed 
	that the N is the beginning of a new word. Could somebody
	please tell me what that word is or what the N stands for.
		Thanx in advance.
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From: mccombj@pell4l17.alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs)
Subject: I'll Be Back Again...
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:18:43 GMT

Hi everybody!

I hope some of you might remember me... :-)  I posted here a few months  
ago while I was at school.  Well, now I'm back, and I just wanted to say  
hi to all of you.  Nothing else to say for now... "but it's okay."

See ya later,
Joe McCombs (mccombj@alleg.edu)
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From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Subject: Re: Byrds
Summary: Influences 
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:44:12 GMT

In article <oeajYzi00awI84pl0T@andrew.cmu.edu> jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason M. Roth) writes:
>...I heard Roger
>McGuinn on Pete Fornatell's Spirit of the 60s (or whatever it's called
>now) on K-Rock in NYC. Pete asked about the whole Beatles/Byrds
>influence ?, and Roger said that he picked up the 12 string from George
>(!).  Now, I recall a discussion on this topic quite awhile ago, but not
>the final verdict; I know at least a few felt it was the other way
>around, but here it is from the horse's mouth (I was surprised 'cos I
>had thought the other opinion had "won").

The Byrds, once they were up and running as a band, were definitely an
influence on the Beatles, as the Beatles were on them (and as the Fabs
and the Byrds were on Dylan and vice-versa...a sort of mutual x 3 admiration
society. :-) It's rather nice the way the airwaves would be awash with
musical reflections and reciprocalities from each of these major entities.

But George started using his 12-string Rickenbacker (I assume this is
the guitar you're referring to) in early 1964, when various members of
the Byrds were only dreaming about hitting the charts (The Byrds evolved
from The Beefeaters, but that was late-1964/early 1965). It's fair to
say that George's 12-string work on the album "A Hard Day's Night", plus
later Fabs-appearances of said instrument during 1964, influenced Roger/Jim
McGuinn (the same person, BTW...just a slight fickleness about names) to
take up the 12-string for his own incipient group.
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From: jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith)
Subject: George says Paul plays slide on "Drive My Car" (was Re: Elmore etc.)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:42:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.210058.19237@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu 
(edward s. chen) writes:
>Well, Mr. Harrison himself calls the playing on "Drive My Car" slide,
>and he does indeed credit it to Paul during his first appearance on
>"Rockline":
>
>"Well, here's one for all you Beatle barkers out there: The slide on
>'Drive My Car' wasn't played by me (he proceeds to demonstrate with the
>guitar the _Rockline_ folks provided), it was played by Paul!"

George also says Paul played that slide bit in the Musician or Guitar Player
(which one was it, Edward?  :-) ) interview from back in '87/'88.

>[...]George didn't play slide much as a Beatle.

In the same interview George also states that he never played slide
before 1969, though he later seems to say that he had set up a guitar
for slide much earlier, but I may be misunderstanding what he said.
Maybe he was just referring to when he got the Strat (I think it was
a Strat)--the one he gave a psychedelic paint job.

On a related note:  In Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down" video, lead
guitarist Mike Campbell can be seen playing that very George-like 
solo on a guitar that looks just like George's old psychedelic one,
and George is of course present.  Was that really George's guitar he 
had borrowed?

>Back to posting on every detail of the Fab Four, in enough detail to make
>most people sick ;-)

I'm sorry I couldn't provide the exact name/issue of the magazine, along
with the precise quotes....  ;-)

--
Jay C. Smith
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From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: New McCartney Album?
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:08:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.132534.22016@medtron.medtronic.com> kr11615@yugoslavia (Kent Roessler) writes:
>Just wondering if anybody has info about a new McCartney album or what
>he's up to these days.
>

Macca's new album has been completed and mixed, and is in the hands of the
execs at EMI.  Current plans are for a release late this year (Christmastime
is most likely), with a tour to follow in 1993.  An interesting note is that
considering the way George was talking on "Rockline", it is entirely possible
that both ex-Fabs will be on the road in the first half of next year...

<ESC>


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