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From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: System 7.1 & Fonts
Date: 15 Oct 1992 01:07:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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simon@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Shandor Simon) writes:

>I have been playing with System 7.1 and have discovered that you cannot have 
>more then a certain number of fonts. I don't, off hand, remember how many, but
>I think that it was something like 128. This REALLY STINKS!!!! I assume that 
>this means that I will have to shell out the extra bucks and go buy some
>program. Any suggestions?? THINK CHEEP, like system software [Apple now 
>charges for software that makes you go out and buy more software :-(

I think you will find that if you take the fonts and put them into
suitcases, you will be able to have 128 suitcases instead of 128 fonts.
Now all I want is a New Suitcase in the menus somewhere.

Craig

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From: fulrj4@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (FULLFORD RICHARD)
Subject: Problem with Word 5.0 and Equation Editor
Keywords: word objects
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:48:50 GMT

I am writing a Word 5.0 document and inserting objects created by
Equation Editor. Once I have about 10 equations inserted in the
document the footers and headers I have in the documen vanish
and the footer style reverts to default.

I have tried increasing memory allocated to Word from 1.5Mbyte to
2 Mbyte but without success. Even when the document is split I
can't seem to shake the problem. Microsoft doesn't have the answer
in their "knowledge base" either.

I am using an SE/30 with 5Mbyte RAM running a tuned up System 7.0.

Any ideas appreciated,

Richard
From: robg@wsinfo11.info.win.tue.nl (Rob Gerth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Textures (was Re: LaTeX for the Mac)
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:05:53 GMT
Reply-To: robg@info.win.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

In article <ldj40hINNr12@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes:
>In article <4323@svin09.info.win.tue.nl>, robg@wsinti03.info.win.tue.nl (Rob Gerth) writes:

>|> Better, yet: I'd like to have style sheet for environments, style parameters
>|> etc.  I don't want to hunt in the LaTeX manual for the precise way to change
>|> the \leftmargin in a list environement.
>
>You want the editor to know the whole implementation of LaTeX and
>how to change it? Wow.

Well, I can dream can I....
As a matter of fact, a style sheet for the page style parameters would just
contain entries for the pars on page 163 of the LaTeX manual + for each
par a simple help text.

Style sheets for list environments and such are more complex of course.
But I think you can go a long way with just understanding the *syntax* of
a list: there are two delimiting macros, \begin{list} and \end{list};
\begin{list} has two parameters---these can be set easily using such style
sheets---between these delimiters there is a sequence of one or more
items. Note that this structure can be described by a simple regular
expression.
An item is an object that starts with \item followed by a piece of text that
is *balanced* w.r.t. to inner environements.

I'm not saying that it's easy. I do think you can do a good job without
emulating TeX on the fly.
I've been wondering for quite some time why nobody has ever tried even the
reduments of such a scheme; i.e., having LaTeX environements hardwired.
Rob
>
>Victor.


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From: froese@skorpio.usask.ca (Kevin Froese)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Ofoto freezes on sys 6 IIci
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:40:43 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

Here's the situation:
  Ofoto 1.0.1 (I believe) freezes when the eraser is used to erase a small
portion of scanned-in line art using all the default options for the Apple
OneScanner and the Line Art auto-scan type chosen.  Specifically, after the
graphic is scanned in (about half a page in size), a small chunk of the
graphic is passed over with the eraser tool and the mouse-button released.
The wait icon appears and stays forever (the cursor usually doesn't lock up
though).

  It will not freeze up however, if I chose 1 bit per pixel in the line
art options under one of the menus (from the default 8 bits per pixel).

  This is on an 8Mb IIci running System 6.0.7 with just the "Scanner" INIT
installed. I have tried reinstalling the System, Ofoto and the Scanner
software, running with no INITs except for the one mentioned above. I've
scanned the drive for bad blocks, et al. and optimized with the
current version of MacTools Deluxe.

  Since the people who use this package regularily say that they have done
the operation successfully in the past, I am confused.  It sure sounds
like a (memory-management?) bug in Ofoto...anyone run across anything
similar?

Reply either to this newsgroup or to sawatzkyj@sask.usask.ca

Thanks,
--Brad Sawatzky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: rinaldo@khayam.berkeley.edu (Roberto Rinaldo)
Subject: Re: LaTeX for the MAC 
Reply-To: ssheng@zion.berkeley.edu
Organization: UC Berkeley Signal Processing VLSI Group
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:35:30 GMT

I would like to use LaTeX on my MAC IIcx, and I was interested in
purchasing Textures by Blue Sky's. I have a HP Deskwriter printer, and I
guess I need some software to print the postscript fonts with it.
Does anyone has some information about this? I heard that it is
necessary to use Adobe Type Manager: is this program public domain? If
so, does anyone know an FTP site for it?
Thanks in advance for any information,

		-- Roberto
		   rinaldo@sina.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: fullerto@pike.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
Subject: new floppy disk backer uppers
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:47:58 GMT



	I have been using MacBackup 8.0 to duplicate my write-protected and 
non-write-protected library.

	My question is that it seems very old and it is not able to duplicate
a lot of newer stuff. Is there anything newer that is as dependable and 
convenient?

	Tim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hcm@ausom.oz.au (Hamish Mogan)
Subject: Disk Doubler 3.77
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:03:39 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Can someone tell me how to password protect .sea files compacted by DD

Thanks

HM


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From: derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 DIE DIE DIE!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:13:00 GMT

In article <tal691.718779218@huxley> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
>Word 5.0 isn't a word-processor. It's Windows for the Mac. It has its
>own printer drivers, its own applications, and its own filing system.

I've used Word 5 daily since it was introduced, and I have no idea what you
mean by the above.  If you really want to slam Word, pick one of the valid
reasons that exist, or explain yourself better.

Derek
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From: Riccardo Mannella <mannella@ipifidpt.difi.unipi.it>
Subject: Help! Need info about morph (?)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6FB73922C0108C9@mann1.difi.unipi.it>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17: 36:18 GMT
Organization: Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Pisa, Italy
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:30:47 GMT

Have you heard about a software called (???) morph ? It is supposed to 
be something which "fades" or "interpolates" between two different
frames/pictures when building quicktime movies. I only know the
prize, 149 dollars.... any piece of information is most welcome.
Please E-mail me, the link with my newsserver is not that good!
Cheers,
Ricc

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From: mjg43166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (One (but not the same) )
Subject: Program to record actual usage time??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:10:29 GMT

Is there a program out there that will record the time that the computer is 
being used by a user?  There are several programs that record the time that
the computer is on, such as Gatekeeper and Fileguard, however, this does
not really give acutal usage time.

If anyone knows of any such program (I would think it would be some kind of 
control panel) please let me know.  I would prefer it to be shareware, but
any suggestions are appreciated.  This would be to track usage in a computer
lab.

Also please mail me because I don't have much time to read the newsgroups.

Thanks!

Matt

mjg43166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Textures (was Re: LaTeX for the Mac)
Summary: any editor will do...
Date: 12 Oct 92 04:36:16 GMT
Organization: Blue Sky Research, Portland, Oregon

In article <NAU.92Oct11184952@frabjous.cs.umd.edu> nau@frabjous.cs.umd.edu (Dana Nau) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.072234.1732@midway.uchicago.edu> trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi) writes:
>
>   ... I was inspired enough to try Textures (can't recall the version
>   number). It was very nice, but ... as is my experience with most
>   Mac applications, I found the bundled editor to be somewhat
>   underpowered.
>
>   So I would add my wish to the wishlist that Barry is accumulating:
>   please power up the editor a little!
>
>Even better, why not provide a way for the user to use whatever
>text-editor he/she wants?  There are some very nice freeware/shareware
>editors out there, and I suspect that a number of potential Textures
>users would like to use one of them instead of the built-in editor.
>--
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>	University of Maryland		UUCP:  uunet!mimsy!nau
>	College Park, MD 20742		Telephone:  (301) 405-2684

There seems to be a misconception here.  Textures will happily
process any text files produced by ANY editor.  There's no
requirement that you use ONLY the built-in editor, at all.
(Of course the Textures editor is always available, since 
it is integrated into the system.)

I'd describe it myself as "pretty good vanilla", and repeat
that we have a current, long-term project to improve it, so
now is a good time to tell us what, specifically, makes a
good editor to you.

It is true that the Lightning Textures interface works only
with the built-in editor, but after you've seen Lightning
Textures, you'll understand why.

(It's hard for me to imagine that anyone would choose a
TeX system because of the editor....)

Barry Smith, Blue Sky Research
barry@reed.edu
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Spelling and Help in Word 5.1
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:06:10 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology


	Just out of curiosity does anyone know if Microsoft Word 5.1 will use 
the same help engine and spelling files as Excel 4.0? Or are we going to have 
to wait for Word 6.0 for this?

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07102
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: bernardo@erevax.bitnet (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: Font for Microsoft Word 5.0 help
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:36:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.203610.15973@ultb.isc.rit.edu>,
smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Tom Thatcher) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Oct11.111926.1@tesla.njit.edu>, erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold) writes:
> >
> >	Does anybody know off the top of their heads what font family and size 
> >Microsoft Word 5.0 uses in its Help windows?  I've got pretty much all the 
> >standard ones in all the standard sizes installed, but the help window in Word 
> >still looks like it's trying to create a 12 point bitmap from a 9 point font.
> >Is it perhaps a special font that Word didn't install because I did a custom 
> >installation and didn't let it put in any System resources?
> >
> >
> 
> Bad boy.
> Word does install something called MTEtext, I think, in the system file, along
> with some fonts, I think.  I'm surprised word is running at all, or isn't
> crashing on you.
> 

MTExt has nothing to do with the Help windows.  This includes special
symbol fonts and an Extension that are needed by the Equation Editor
module.  MT stands for Math Type, an equation editor which EE is a subset
of.  In short, you don't need it unless you install Equation Editor.

Marcelino Bernardo
bernardo@erevax.bitnet
From: psybeast@world.std.com (The UnKnown Beast)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: OED on CD-ROM
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:42:08 GMT
Organization: Part of the Human Race

In article <antjcb.718981079@gsusgi1.gsu.edu> antjcb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (J.C.Burns) writes:
>
>Does anyone know when the Oxford English Dictionary will be available
>in Macintosh-readable CD-ROM format? I thought I heard something

That is a title that I have been waiting for also!!!!

>And while I'm asking, are there any Kodak PhotoCD compatible CD-ROM
>drives out there (that is, drive which support multiple 'sessions.')?
>
>--jcburns

Kodak is selling one, but if you look under the hood, the drive is made by
Philips, so I would also check them also...
Another name would be Magnavox (sp?), who is owned by Philips... and then
there is also LMSI (Laser Magnetic Storage International) which is also
owned by Philips...

Hope this helps,

PsyBeast
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From: rick@claris.com (Rick Boarman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Attention all developers!!!
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:59:28 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation, Santa Clara CA

I understand your problem and it can be a real pain in the butt. When
we bought FileMaker from Nashoba (sp?) it was called FileMaker4 and
we had to change it to FileMaker II.  This caused a major tech support
nightmare.

As far as putting versions on the labels we don't do this as a rule
because we don't want to have to throw away thousands of labels if we 
rev something.  Cost of goods drives a lot of these types of decisions.

I'll pass your ideas on to the ops people.

Rick
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From: trobb@ksuics.kyoto-su.ac.jp (Thomas Robb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: which word processor?
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:56:15 GMT

willg@cix.compulink.co.uk (William Gallagher) writes:
  
> To end, one problem with WordPerfect and Nisus is that they are 
> expensive.  

If you have a university affiliation, Nisus is cheap.  My copy cost only
$106US including shipping to Japan.  Support through compuserve has been
excellent, too.

Thomas Robb                                  trobb@ksuics.kyoto-su.ac.jp
Kyoto Sangyo University, Japan
From: barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: LaTeX for the Mac
Summary: Textures support
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:35:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct8.033550.14419
Organization: Blue Sky Research, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Oct6.100852.5971@coli.uni-sb.de> espen@coli.uni-sb.de (Espen J. Vestre) writes:
>TeXtures used to have an awful memory management, texing the same large
>document a few times would result in so much non-collected garbage that
>you'd have to restart the program.  Has this improved lately? (haven't
>been using it since version 1.2)

It wasn't non-collected garbage, it was locked blocks falling in unfortunate
places, resulting in a shortage of contiguous memory. Yes, it has improved,
and quite some time ago (Textures 1.2 was, what, 4 years ago?). 

>The font used by TeXtures for the
>(standard) LaTeX section headings is just _terrible_, looks almost like
>printed on an Imagewriter...  (this is not a problem if you have the
>Postscript cm fonts of course).

The section heading font (like all bitmap fonts) suffers if it is not
available at the resolution-dependent size.  The symptoms you saw were
not due to the font, but to the scaling of bitmap fonts, and can be
easily resolved by installing the correct (resolution-dependent) size
for your printer.

>I started using TeXtures already with version 0.9.  At least in the
>beginning we were not at all satisfied with the support; we had to _pay_
>a lot for an upgrade which was essentially a bug-fix (and which didn't
>fix the memory bug!).  

"In the beginning" support (and sales and distribution) were the
responsibility of Addison-Wesley.  (Textures 0.9 was the second AW
pre-release; all owners received a free upgrade to the 1.0 package.)
Blue Sky Research does not charge for bug-fix upgrades, and we have
never charged more than $35 for any upgrade prior to Lightning Textures.
We do not control prices of services or software purchased through
distributors.

I do not pretend that our support in Germany is the equal of what we
are able to offer in the United States and Canada, although I assure
you that we have gone to extraordinary lengths for reasonable requests.

>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Espen J. Vestre,                          espen@coli.uni-sb.de
>Universitaet des Saarlandes,        
>Computerlinguistik, Gebaeude 17.2 
>Im Stadtwald,
>D-6600 SAARBRUECKEN, Germany           tel. +49 (681) 302 4501
>--------------------------------------------------------------

Barry Smith, Blue Sky Research
From: noecker@cfa.harvard.edu (Charley Noecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: FTP sites for "educational" software
Summary: Looking for free/shareware learning environments
Keywords: education, mac
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:03:40 GMT
Organization: Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

In article <1992Oct12.181526.2531@bert.eecs.uic.edu> 
	moher@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Tom Moher) writes:

>i am working with a school with a roomful of macs, but no
>(or let's say a very limited) software budget.  i was wondering
>if anyone knows of any FTP sites specializing in learning
>environments, especially for elementary school-age kids.

Look for FAQ from Elliotte Harold posted here each month 
(you may still be able to find the most recent one).  Or...

FTP to sumex-aim.stanford.edu: 
type "cd info-mac/report/"
type "mget ftp-sites.txt csm-faq.txt"

The second of these files is E.Harold's Frequently Asked Question list,
from which I got this information.  Included is info on ARCHIE, a system 
that looks for any FTPable software whose name you already know.  

Use it in good health.

Charley Noecker                                   POINTS group
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics       Cambridge, MA
EMail: noecker@cfa.harvard.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Subject: Re: I hate fonts
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:47:36 GMT

While reading article <4NuqsB19w165w@mantis.co.uk>, I noticed that
mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) said the following:
 >> 1) Throw away all TrueType fonts if you have ATM and PostScript fonts which 
 >> duplicate them.
 >
 >I have a better suggestion.
 >
 >1. Throw away all your ATM fonts.
 >
 >2. Throw away ATM.
 >
 >3. Use TrueType for everything.
 >
 >Hey presto, you now have a single font type for all devices, seamless font
 >handling from the desktop, and much better quality font scaling and spacing
 >than you had before.  You even free up some valuable RAM.
 >
 >Optional step:
 >
 >4. Convert your old ATM fonts to TrueType format using FontMonger or similar.

 5. Wait several years for anything to print from a PostScript printer.

 Personally, I don't have ANY TrueType fonts installed on my Mac (Adobe only,
 thenk yew...)
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From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Attention all developers!!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:02:43 GMT
Organization: New York University, School of Medicine


	A few weeks ago, our lab started on the horrible task of sorting
out, cataloging, finding, etc, all the macintosh software we have.  We've
got literally hundreds and hundreds of disks (maybe thousands) of commercial
software, including multiple copies and versions of many programs.  Having
spent a good chunk of the past few weeks (in fits and spurts, as much as I
could stand at a time), looking through this huge disk collection, I hereby
decree a set of software packaging commandments that from this day forward
all software publishers will obey, or risk my unending wrath and
pissed-offness

	1) Every disk of a multi-disk set will be clearly labeled with the
name of the package, the version number, the date of issue, and the disk
number (as in 3/7, which not only lets me know that this is disk number 3,
but also that I need to find 7 disks in total to get a complete set).

	2) All version numbers will be in a logical progression.  Is version
2.03 newer or older than 2.1?  Beats the hell out of me.  If you mean 2.0.3,
say so, and it's immediately obvious that 2.1 outdates it.  Adobe, I think,
takes the cake on this one: is Illustrator 88 older or newer than
Illustrator 2.0?  And no, I don't want anybody to tell me which is newer, I
just want software publishers to think about the problem.

	That's it.  Two commandments.  Mosses had 10 and people seem to be
having a lot of trouble following them.  Hopefully, with just two, it'll be
a bit easier.  Happy hacking, and thank you for your support.