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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:46:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Sep3.232243.27169@wlbr.iipo.gtegsc.com> fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski) writes:
>
>
>
>
>Good news.  However, that One Way Records rings a bell.  In my case it's
>their reissue (via MCA) of James Gang's Yer Album.  Side one is just fine
>(more or less), but side two was mastered off of an LP (pops, clicks and
>all).
>
>When the Renaissance CDs come out, will someone verify whether they've 
>done similarly?

They sounds as though they were mastered from tape not LP's.
Compared with In The Beginning, there seems to be wider audio
bandwidth, channel separation, and dynamic range. Also more
audible tape noise.


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From: gip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (G.I.P.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Help: Marillion FTP sites and lyrics?
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:34:25 -0500
Organization: Legoland

	Does anyone know of any FTP sites that have Marillion related
material (other than cs.uwp.edu)?
	Also if anyone has them, can they pass along the lyrics for "I Will
Walk on Water" and Rare Bird's "Sympathy" that were included on the recent
Marillion compilation.
	Thanks in advance...

-- 
     /// George I. Papadopoulos    |  "It's _Mister_ Pathetic Loser
    ///   gip@drycas.bitnet        |   to you, pal..!"
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 \XX/      gip@nyx.cs.du.edu       |                  "Juan In a Million"
From: mcleman@decwet.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Captain Beyond
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:03:45 GMT
Reply-To: mcleman@decwet.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



Anyone remember the group Captain Beyond? It consisted of Lee Dorhman, 
 Bobby Caldwell, Rhino (Larry ReinHart), and Rod Evans. Evans was the
vocalist with Deep purple on the song Hush. Reinhart was the
orginal guitarist for Iron Butterfly, before Eric "what's his name". And
of course Dorhman was in IB.

Anyway, over the years i was intrigued by the lyrics. Never seen them. Then I
found a Japanese import of the album, and behold, it had the lyrics.

Anyway, they did two other albums, "Sufficiently Breathless and Dawn Erruption".
Anyone seen these on CD?

Like to hear comments.

Jeff

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 Views expressed here are mine, exclusively. They are not in any way
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From: SAB145@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: INXS
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:21:40 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

TO THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET EXPERIENCED XS.  THE LATEST OFFERING FROM
INXS-WELCOME TO WHEREEVER YOU ARE- HAS BLAZED ONTO THE ALTERNATIVE SCENE.
MICHAEL HUTCHENCE AND COMPANY DELIVER THEIR MOST ORIGINAL ALBUM TO DATE.  THE
FLAIR OF KICK HAS BEEN REMOVED.  HUTCHENCE DELIVERS MYSTIFYING VOCALS TO
UNFAMILIAR BASS AND CHALLENGING GUITAR RIFFS.HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE: "NOT ENOUGH
TIME," "COMMUNICATIONS," "BABY DON'T CRY," (WHICH UTILIZES AN ORCHESTRA),
"STRANGE DESIRE," AND "HEAVEN SENT."  MY ADVICE:  BUY IT AND "TASTE IT!!!"
From: hunnicu@seq.uncwil.edu (jeff hunnicutt)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Alan Holdsworth dates
Keywords: repost them please...
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:43:18 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington



Would the person that posted the Alan Holdsworth dates a few
days ago please repost them or e-mail them to me? I accidentally
"lost" them. I am particularly interested in the Raleigh, N.C.
date. It listed no venue yet. Thanks...


-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:52:19 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <9c7y02Ub20wm01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen) writes:
|> 
|> I don't think too many people missed
|> the few minutes they cut out of "Rajah Khan" on Prologue either.

Hey, no fair!  That's my favorite track on the album, but I guess I've
never heard the full version.  What's missing?

============================================================================
Timothy Klein                 I wish I had a kryptonite cross.  Then I
timk@meaddata.com             could keep both Dracula AND Superman away.
...!uunet!meaddata!timk                               -- Jack Handey
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Some CDs for sale
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:13:50 GMT

In article <9208280441.AA19082@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> borella@cs.ucdavis.edu (Mike Borella) writes:

Mail bounces, please include an email address when you post...

>Hawkwind - Traveller's Aid Trust  (with other bands)	$12
>Hawkwind - British Tribal Music				$10

I want the Traveller's Aid Trust.  I'll need to check my disks at home but if
I don't have it I also want British Tribal Music.  Thanks.

jim

-- 
Lawyers Creed:  What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.
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Jim Harkins                         [ucsd|uunet]!pacdata!jim
Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
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From: borella@cs.ucdavis.edu (Mike Borella)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Some CDs for sale
Date: 27 Aug 1992 23:42:07 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Van Der Graff Generator - Vital (the 1 CD version).	$10
RIck Wakeman - 2000 AD Into the Future			$20
Rick Wakeman - Time Machine				$18
Hawkwind - Traveller's Aid Trust  (with other bands)	$12
Hawkwind - British Tribal Music				$10
YesYears (4 CD boxed set with box and booklet) 		$35

NOTES:

The Wakeman discs are rare imports and probably will go out of print in 
the not-so-distant future.  Both are in excellent condition.

The HW British Tribal has lousy sound quality in places.  For serious
collectors.

YesYears, each disc was played <3 times.  Honestly.  The fourth wasn't
even played once.  For $40 I'll throw in 90125.

I'll cut prices if you want more than one.

-Mike
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc,alt.fan.peter.hammill
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: ICE
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:08:53 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <37422@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pvallado@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid ) writes:
>What is ICE?

ICE: Newest Album by the Italian group EDITH, pretty hot, check it out,
supposed to be out domestic in a couple of months....

Also...I.C.E. is "International Compact Disc Exchange", an 8 page news-
letter put out by some guy in Los Angeles, has upcoming new releases,
reissues, bootleg talk, etc....It's a very general type of thing, not
dedicated to any particular type of music.
I quit getting it about a year ago, but I think the address is still the
same: ICE, PO Box 3043, Santa Monica CA. 90403. Comes out once a month,
Subscription price is (or WAS) around $ 25.00 a year

peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
From: ewarner@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (TheMaskedAxigallian)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: ICE
Keywords: ICE, Celestial Navigations
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:02:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


ICE is also the title of CELESTIAL NAVIGATIONS' third album.  The
band consists of three men: character actor Geoffrey Lewis, who tells
stories; and Chris Many and Geoff Levin, who play music to accompany
the storytelling.  They're really an impressive trio, and I would
definately recommend a listen to anyone who loves a good story
and/or good music.

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| Eric Warner | ewarner@sdcc13.ucsd.edu |
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From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Some thoughts
Date: 28 Aug 92 07:03:24 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <9208280511.AA19206@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> borella@cs.ucdavis.edu (Mike Borella) writes:
>
>A few thoughts:
>
>With Ozric touring the states we have a small chance of actually
>seeing a prog music fest in LA that there have been many rumors of.
>Gayle Elliot of Djam Karet has been trying to get Ozric over here for
>some time, and has offered to have DK open for them.

Jeez, I hope this really happens...can't think of too many new bands I'd
rather see more, and on the same bill as well !!  Whew !

>The new Syn-Phonic catalog is fantastic.  There are loads of new CDs
>available, and Greg Walker is putting a bunch out on the label.
>Here's a partial list of what he plans to release:

>Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon
>Babylon - Babylon (Genesis sounding)

I don't believe it !! Two of the best long-lost American progressive bands
and I thought these two would  n e v e r  be released on CD.Reserve my
copies of both !!! Does Walker give any release dates on these ?

peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
Xref: sparky alt.music.progressive:2250 rec.music.cd:6294 rec.music.misc:22696
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:43:54 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep3.194234.19709@portal.vpharm.com> dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.150349.12660@ddsw1.mcs.com> jtl@ddsw1.MCS.COM 
>(Joe Lynn) writes:
>>
>>The first two Annie Haslam-era Renaissance LPs have just been
>>reissued in the US by One Way Records (distributed by Capitol/EMI
>>Special Markets).

I'm confused, I mean aren't both of these still available as a two-fer
"In The Beginning" ? Where's "Turn of The Cards" and "Scheherezade" ?
Where's the complete "Live at Carnegie Hall", Where's "Time Line" ?
Where's the two Illusion albums (reformed original lineup) ?????


>>They are not yet available in stores, but an outfit called "The Music
>>is 57576.  Price is around $12-14 per disc, plus shipping.
>>
>>Here is the ad copy which appears in the latest _Goldmine_ magazine:
>>
>>      Renaissance....(blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,etc.)
>>      "Ashes Are Burning" has been restored to it's original
>>      full length...
>>

Any fans upset by the one minute they edited out of "At the Harbour",
IMHO the album's weakest track, have probably already bought the full
unedited Japanese Import version. I don't think too many people missed
the few minutes they cut out of "Rajah Khan" on Prologue either.


>Personally, I think the fans should be screaming because the cost of
>getting Prologue+Ashes are Burning has gone from $8.99 (a decent 
>price on the CD 2-fer Capitol offered them as) to about $24-26. Yeah,
>some fans may have screamed about the relatively few minutes chopped
>off "Ashes Are Burning" in the 2-fer re-release. For myself, 
>I don't think those extra minutes are worth an additional 
>$15-17. (I have the original vinyl releases; I know what they chopped off).
>Put it this way: "Fans" could have purchased the 2-fer and had the
>complete "Prologue" plus almost all of "Ashes" for less than the
>cost of "Prologue" alone under this "great" new reissue.

Actually, When I got my "In The Beginning" CD I noticed the "Rajah Khan"
edit, but didn't care. I didn't even realize that "At the Harbour" had
been edited until I read about it in ICE. Frankly, I'm just happy to have
it on CD, I just point and skip when that song comes on; far as I'm
concerned they could have left it off the CD altogether.


peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
Xref: sparky alt.music.progressive:2244 alt.music.alternative:9966
From: mc4g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael John Colaianne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Affordable Floors
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:47:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>i	Recently while in Pittsburgh, I discovered the "Affordable Floors"
>in a live performance, they were really great. Their latest music is available
>as the CD "Drumming on the Walls". I would like to know about other
>groups that fall under this category, ie produce similar music.
>Any/all suggestins welcome.
>Oh, I guess the Affordable Floors are a Pittsburgh based band.
 
Yup, the Floors are based in Pittsburgh.  They've got quite a local
following that verges on obsession sometimes...

'Drumming on the Walls' has been out for quite a while, though.  Rumors
abound that mid-September will see a new album entitled 'A Thousand
Days.'  Since their falling out with MCA last year (or maybe 2 yrs ago)
they haven't produced anything I know of.  Just some great live
performances.  They're legendary at Graffitti.


Ciao,
Michael
From: piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (henry bart)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: is yesshows on cd?
Keywords: yes yesshows
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:24:27 GMT
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-14153]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu


> i have been looking for yesshows on cd. is it? if its not, does
> anyone know why? if it is, can you give me the catalog number.

I can't provide a catalog number for you, but I can tell you where to get it.
Yesshows is only availabe as an import.  You can get it from 

Doug Larson
62 Crane Street
Caldwell, NJ.  07006.

It's a two CD set on a Japanes pressing and will run you $32 plus a couple of
bucks for shipping. I deal with Doug on a regular basis and his service is
excellent.w3  he deals in all kinds of progressive CD imports.  His phone is
201-226-6332, 4-10pm eastern, Monday-Saturday.  Give him a call and request
his catalog.


	Mike
Xref: sparky alt.music.progressive:2201 alt.rock-n-roll:15427
From: smsst8+@pitt.edu (Steven M Scholnick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Manfred Mann and Bruce Springsteen?
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:18:59 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug31.100012.8433@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>
>I know that two of MM's 
>most played songs ("Spirits in the Night" and "Blinded by the Light") were
>Springsteen covers, and I wouldn't be surprised if some other of their tunes
>were as well.  (Was "I Came for You" a cover as well?--  I'm  not sure).

"I Came for You" is also a Springsteen song.  All of the Sprigsteen covers are
from his first album.  I remember hearing (on Rockline I think?)  that they
found Boss's first album his best work, and they decided to cover some of the
songs.  IMHO, I do not believe there was any direct connection between
Springsteen and MM.

__________________________________________________________________________
|                             |                                          |
| Steve Scholnick             |  I don't believe in Destiny              |
| steves@vms.cis.pitt.edu     |  or the guiding hand of fate             |
| steves@theory.chem.pitt.edu |  I don't believe in the stars or planets |
|                             |  or angels watching from above           |
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: wcsanil@alfred.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: INFO REQUEST: Canadian Asia tour dates
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:05:09 GMT

I just heard that Asia will be touring north america in sept/oct.

If anyone has any info/rumours about Canadian dates in
Toronto/Montreal/Ottawa, please mail me asap!

Thanks,

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: sabiani@droogs.vbo.dec.com (Stephane SABIANI)
Subject: Re: Help: Marillion FTP sites and lyrics?
Reply-To: sabiani@droogs.vbo.dec.com (Stephane SABIANI)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:22:57 GMT


Is this what you're looking for ?

Steph.

PS : Graham, if you read that, please add me to the freaks mailing list
     please !!!!!!.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll
From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: Re: Manfred Mann and Bruce Springsteen?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:12:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.100012.8433@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
|> 	Just curious--  does anyone know just what the connection was between
|> Manfred Mann's Earth Band and Bruce Springsteen?  I know that two of MM's 
|> most played songs ("Spirits in the Night" and "Blinded by the Light") were
|> Springsteen covers, and I wouldn't be surprised if some other of their tunes
|> were as well.  (Was "I Came for You" a cover as well?--  I'm  not sure).

Yes, "For You" was written by Springsteen as well.  I think those three
songs are the extent of their Bruce covers.


|> 	Was someone in the band just good friends with Bruce, or did they
|> just happen to like his songs?

They remade quite a few Bob Dylan tunes too.  I think Manfred Mann probably
just likes their songs.

As an avid Springsteen hater, however, I have a pet theory (which I don't
really believe):  MM actually despises Springsteen as much as I do, and
remakes his songs just to prove that he can make good music out of trash.
(Those of you who have never heard Bruce's monotone, irrhythmic versions
of "Blinded By the Light" and "For You" are fortunate indeed.)  Perhaps
the appearance of "Chopsticks", the world's simplest piano piece, in the
middle of MM's version of "Blinded" is a comment on the profundity of that
particular Springsteen composition.  :-)


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Timothy Klein                 I wish I had a kryptonite cross.  Then I
timk@meaddata.com             could keep both Dracula AND Superman away.
...!uunet!meaddata!timk                               -- Jack Handey
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc,alt.fan.peter.hammill
From: lamour@maestro.mitre.org (Michael Lamoureux)
Subject: Gibraltar (was Re: Prog Rock Isolationism)
Reply-To: lamour@maestro.mitre.org (Michael Lamoureux)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:39:10 GMT

In article <jester.715022878@crash>, jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb) writes:
|> 
|> Also, to the user who suggest using gibraltar, that is a good idea--I sent
|> my subscription request in yesterday.
|> 
|> Has there been any thought of gatewaying gibraltar and alt.music.progressive?
|> then those who have no access to the alt hierarchy would be able to
|> participate in alt.music.progressive....

	I've been on vacation for a while, so forgive me for coming in in
the middle of this, but nobody has or probably will think of gatewaying
Gibraltar to alt.music.progressive.  Gibraltar is a digest.  I've conducted
several surveys, and have never gotten more than 2 or 3 people who said
they'd like to have it changed to support spontaneous mail forwarding.  Most
people get too much mail already (I had almost 700 messages when I got back
from vacation...I'm almost caught up too  ;-)  Anyway, I'd support the
concept of gatwaying alt.music.progressive to a mailing list, but I have no
urge to do so, and I think it should be separate from Gibraltar.

Thanks,
Michael
lamour@mitre.org
Gibraltar Moderator

PS>  You should be getting your Gibraltar welcome message sometime today...
	when I get to your subscription message  ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: horan@hemlock05.cray.com (Rick Horan)
Subject: is yesshows on cd?
Originator: horan@hemlock05
Keywords: yes yesshows
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:43:16 CDT


i have been looking for yesshows on cd. is it? if its not,
does anyone know why? if it is, can you give me the catalog number.

thanx.

-- 
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Rick Horan
horan@hemlock.cray.com
612-683-5357
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc,alt.fan.peter.hammill
From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Prog Rock Isolationism (Was Re: Welcome to alt.fan.peter.hammill)
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:27:48 GMT

I question if there is a need for this group: don't get me wrong, I'm a
big fan of pH and vdgg, *BUT* this smacks of the elitist, narrow world-view
promoted by the rush newsgroup.
 
There *is* a need for fans worldwide to keep in touch with each other, but
how are we to attract new Peter Hammill/Van Der Graaf Generator fans if we
concentrate our posts in a new newsgroup?  The average music listener
is *not* aware of Hammill, nor are they aware of his influence on the
European community.  If Hammill's fans isolate themselves in a newsgroup
of their own, we will not be sharing his music with those who have not
heard him.

This is not just a criticism of this newsgroup, but of all these isolationist
groups.  Why not upgrade your newsreader to something that will autoselect
headers with keywords like "Hammill" or "VDGG"?  Why not upgrade to a
newsreader with thread following capabilities?  If most usenet users were
to do this, the need for groups like this would be unnecessary.

The other problem is that the alt hierarchy doesn't penetrate many sites
which have fans of progressive music.  Instead of creating these splinter
groups, there are a couple options available:


        o mail lists.  This has worked well for Genesis, Marillion, etc.
        o keywords on subject: starting the subject with VDGG: to make
                               it easier to autoselect articles of interest.
        o working towards rec.music.progressive.  Yes, there are those
                       who will gleefully attack the name, and those who
                       who will mistakenly post pixies (hi kim!) articles,
			but this would probably be best since many people
			don't have access to the alt hierarchy.

We should spend more time *sharing* our musical knowledge than we do
hoarding it in yet-another-altgroup-for-an-artist.

--
jester@crash.cts.com