From: ghe@nyx.cs.du.edu (George He)
Subject: Re: News readers from ROT(Re: Hello from news reader in China)
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In article <1992Sep9.205028.6366@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:
>ghe@nyx.cs.du.edu (George He) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep9.104411.9076@nuscc.nus.sg> elelyc@nuscc.nus.sg (Y.C. Liang) writes:
>>>In article <63780007@acf3.NYU.EDU> yangze@acf3.NYU.EDU (Ze Yang, , , ) writes:
>>>>
>>>>You think Taiwanese can choose everything they want, that is wrong `
>>>>at the first place, you have to play the game according the rules, right?
>>>>just like the Southern states of the USA don't have the freedom of suceding,
>>>>Taiwan can not do that either. You might say the southern states
>>>>did choose sucede from the Union before the Civil War, but the
>>>>Union "chose" fight to keep the Union.
>>>>
>>>>Ze Yang
>>
>>Is Yang suggesting that
>>"You(Taiwanese) must sacrifice for us(mainlanders) for our great unification."?
>>Hmm..., I start to realize the fundamental attitude of a communist ---
>>        yours is mine. mine is not yours.
>
>On the issue of TI, the same argument holds, because Japan returned 
>Taiwan to China after WWII, the Chinese people is the legistimate 
>?????????????????????????? --->>> which China?
>owner of Taiwan, if you want to sucede, we have to protect our property.
>Before you utter your "mine" and "yours" theory, you's better
>know more about the past of Taiwan.

Ha Ha Ha, this self-centered communist eat too much PRC/CCP craps.
Listen, 

	Japan returns Taiwan to ROC, the only legitimate receiver of Taiwan
	in 1945, not Yangze's stupid PRC, which does not exist at all in 1945.

And ROC is still there in Taiwan.
Who else dares to claim Taiwan as its territory should go to hell.
PRC never has Taiwan. Yangze, don't day-dream that Taiwan is PRC's property.

For now, just like after USSR died, Russia inherited the Russian portion of 
USSR and Georgia inherited the Georgian portion of USSR.
If Russia uses military force against Georgia, it's invasion now.

PRC is the successor of ROC  in mainland. I won't argue with you about this.
However, if later people in Taiwan want to change the country's name from ROC
to something else, the new country will be the successor of ROC in Taiwan.
If PRC uses military force against the new country, it's invasion.

>
>>I also consider your "the Civil War" analogy is a false analogy.
>>Those southern states signed the USA constitution and agreed to join the USA
>>and become part of USA. That's why it's called the Civil War.
>
>Why the analogy is faulse? Taiwan did not sign that kind of document,
>but Japan returned Taiwan to China, is this a fact, we lost Taiwan
                              ?????

Again, Japan returns Taiwan to ROC, not PRC.
Taiwan has nothing to do with PRC in any sense.


>>If you want to claim Taiwan as your territory, why don't you also claim
>>Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Lao, ..., and United States and Russia as territory?

If you want to claim Taiwan as territory, 
I suppose you can claim the whole earth as well as the Mars, the sun
and the moon as territory under the same hypothesis.


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