HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps

hi!

can someone point me to the email of the people who wrote WOPR program?
i do not have ftp access but wish to try out the program.  seems like it
is a great one!

if no email address, can someone email it to me?

thanks.

simon

email:   nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: gfini@nyx.cs.du.edu (Gianluca Fini)
Subject: ATIDRV
Summary: Ati
Keywords: ATI ULTRA drivers
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:53:37 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: ATIdrv
Summary: ATIdrv
Keywords: ATIdrv

I own an ati graphic ULTRA. I received the drivers for Win3.1 dated
22/4/92. I also have cristalfonts drivers.
But... this drivers are not complete....I do not have the driver for
1280x1024 res. and the cristal fonts for 800x600.
Thi8s drivers are also quite slow.The ati ULTRA should be very fast!

If someone has new drivers please mail to
 tbra380@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it (131.175.6.2) 


tHANKS IN ADVANCE
From: weiss@turing.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Importing Excel Spreadsheets Into Word Tables
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:24:48 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1992Oct1.061125.16420@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>Perhaps 2.0b, which Microsoft is sending to anyone who has a need for it,
>will have the fix.  Does anyone know?  (My copy is back-ordered -- maybe
>I'll get it by the end of October.) 

I got my copy on Wednesday.  It has an Excel converter in it (I don't remember
if 2.0a had one), but I haven't tested it on Excel 4.0 spreadsheets.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert)
Subject: Re: NDW 2.0 -> How do you speed up startup time???
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 01:12:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.151246.21272@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com> walls@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Gerald Walls) writes:
>In article <2ACB7623.44D9@deneva.sdd.trw.com> reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert) writes:
>>The VERY best thing you can do to speed things up is install a disk cache.
>>I've heard that (ahem) "Smart"drive has improved somewhat, but I use
>>SuperPCKwik, and it works GREAT. My 486/33 w/ 8MB RAM and 330MB Microp.
>>loads NDW in a little over 10 seconds.
>>
>>			Scott
>
>this will speed up operations, but won't do anything to speed up
>the startup time, which was what the question was about.

Then I guess I don't know what you refer to when you say "startup." If you
load your cache in AUTOEXEC.BAT, then start Win/NDW, you will finish your
load in a fraction of the time. With the cache I go from C:\ to a ready and
loaded state in a little over 10 seconds. Without the cache it takes four
or five (maybe more) times as long.

If you are referring to something else besides the initial loading time,
then I withdraw my statements.

			Scott


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: baileyc@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Christopher R. Bailey)
Subject: Is there a Postscript previewer?
Keywords: postscrpt windows
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:30:30 GMT

I would like a program to "preview" or display postscript files in windows.
I have lots of encapsulated and regular(?) postscript files I'd like to view.
What public domain or shareware program can do this?  

I have looked into GhostScript (and Ghostview, GSPreview) a little, but 
I only have hercules video, so I'd need to recompile, etc.  I just want a
simple postscript viewer, it doesn't need to do anything else.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: westes@sti.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: POLARIS PACKRAT 4.1
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:52:33 GMT

In article <t3=p3__@lynx.unm.edu> tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu (Timothy Keitt) writes:
>I am considering buying packrat ($99 limited time offer).
>Any recommendations, comments? (please be specific about
>particular features) Is there anything better? cheaper?

You SMTP server seems to be hopelessly misconfigured.  I tried to send
you mail and it looped 30 times and then bounced back to me.  Something
in our path is not quite right.

I'll sell you my Packrat 4.0 for only $50, and I'll throw in my Packrat
3.0 manuals for free.
-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: walls@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Gerald Walls)
Subject: Re: NDW 2.0 -> How do you speed up startup time???
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 15:12:46 GMT

In article <2ACB7623.44D9@deneva.sdd.trw.com> reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert) writes:
>The VERY best thing you can do to speed things up is install a disk cache.
>I've heard that (ahem) "Smart"drive has improved somewhat, but I use
>SuperPCKwik, and it works GREAT. My 486/33 w/ 8MB RAM and 330MB Microp.
>loads NDW in a little over 10 seconds.
>
>			Scott

this will speed up operations, but won't do anything to speed up
the startup time, which was what the question was about.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: hart@daisy (James A. Hart)
Subject: WFW every other page macro?
Summary: Looking for WFW macro.
Keywords: even, odd.
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:56:26 GMT

Would some kind soul that already has WFW 2.0b please e-mail me the macro that
allows printing of just the even or odd pages?  I've called MicroSoft for the
upgrade, but could REALLY use the macro as soon as possible!
Thanx.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
From: begonia@hardy.u.washington.edu (Rubricant Horticulturist)
Subject: Re: FCC certification levels (was: Considering an SGI...)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 07:45:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct05.002405.3077@microsoft.com> jhenshaw@microsoft.com (Jeff Henshaw) writes:
>....oodles of quoted articles deleted for the sake of brevity...
>
>Out of curiosity, since the University of Washington is apparently
>being required to post a notice that such machines (class 'A',  in
>this case NeXT boxes) are not intended for home use, I'm wondering
>what the requirements of computer vendors are in this case?  I
>notice that none of the other computer vendors who carry NeXT
>hardware display a sign like this (at least that I've seen).
>
>As long as my hair doesn't start falling out, I'm not too
>worried.  HEY, WAIT A MINUTE...what are these clumps of stuff
>on the floor ?!?  My dog must be shedding...yeah...thats what
>it is   :-)
>

A slight clarification:  The University bookstore is *not* a part of
the University of Washington.  Though it does handle educational
discounts etc... it is treated as a business.  I have no idea if this
effects what kinds of notices they have to post and stuff.  

(gee, do i have to admit the real reason i posted this follow-up was
because i was so excited to see myself quoted in a comp.sys.next
group?)
-- 
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Abstract Software             
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"Another one of the flock following the herd."
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: alanlb@bethesda.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Essence of flame
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:47:05 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

Don't forget MS-DOG and Windog.

-alan
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:51:30 EDT
From: Mike Tierney <MBT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows == OS (NOT!)
 <1992Sep20.061534.12448@nosc.mil> <1992Sep21.134018.5380@gw.wmich.edu>
 <1992Sep22.171509.17884@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <1992Sep28.224446.5518@gw.wmich.edu> <jbone.717778010@splat>

In article <jbone.717778010@splat>, jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) says:
>925wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>> ...[Windows] certainly has great usefulness and has done more to
>> speed up the PC revolution than anything yet...
>I'll take that flame bait...  ;)
>Windows is nothing but a low-grade rip-off of the Mac GUI, which is
>what *truly* revolutionized PCs and the way we use them.  Windows is

     The only thing MacOS truly revolutionized was a whole new way to
usurp other's ideas (aka Xerox PARC), and call them your own.  Probably
the only favorable quality about the Macintosh is that the hardware is
all one standard (thanks to Apple's closely-guarded monopoly), and
therefore, programs could have been written since 1984 without worrying
too much about hardware variances.  If Intel PC's had that kind of
single architecture guiding it since the beginning, you'd find PC
software surpassing anything the Mac could offer in ease of use (instead
of the simply better performance, which equivalent DOS machines have always
had over Macs, Windows or not.)

>There's no innovation here, no revolution, only capitalism, which is
>fine in its own right but not worth remarking on.  You want innovation
>and revolution, you have *got* to look beyond MicroScrap.  It's
>practically axiomatic.

     Of course this is true.  A quick look at any Intel-compatible
shareware site will show numerous innovations beyond what Microsoft
has available (PC speaker sound was a recent example until Windows 3.1).
Microsoft is drawing the line between innovations and practicality.  If
a technology isn't going to be compatible with some of the hardware or
software currently available, Microsoft certainly can not market it as a
computing solution for all the millions of users of Microsoft products
(for example, PC speaker sound was made available from Microsoft separately
from Win 3.1 because of incompatibilities on a few systems).  I think
Microsoft is doing the best job they can of providing new products,
considering the huge base of varied hardware they are forced to support.
Mind you, I don't see Microsoft as the end-all be-all of PC products, but
I do use their products and find them quite effective for my purposes.

                                   -Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Considering getting an SGI indigo
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 20:18:37 GMT

Iskandar Taib writes
> >	 - FCC Class A, VCCI Class 1, CISPR-22
> >	   Class A (EN550022) EMI
> >	   requirements"
> >      
> >What does all of this mean?  
>
> Means you can't use it at home. 
> 
No it doesn't.  It means that if you do use it at home, and it causes  
problems such as snow on your neighbours' TV, then you're responsible  
for finding a solution: ie either switching the thing off or  
installing appropriate shielding, or whatever.  As long as it doesn't  
cause problems, you're OK.

--
-
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: Windows == OS (NOT!)
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:06:01 GMT

jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>Yes!  That's exactly it.  They have enough monetary mass and marketing
>chutzpah to create whatever artificial market reality they want.  You
>ever see the movie "They Live"?  Put on your damn sunglasses, everyone;
>NT is not Salvation, the Company from Redmond is a pit of fiends, and
>Billy is the Devil himself! ;) :)  (how's that for metaphor mixing? ;)

Now I know! Jeff is really Rowdy Roddy Piper (star of "They Live" for
those not in the know) That explains his tone! (BTW I do agree with
you.)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: leehart@microsoft.com (Lee Hart)
Subject: Re: Windows == OS (NOT!)
Date: 04 Oct 92 04:21:00 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Oct3.060739.22116@u.washington.edu>, tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
> Wasn't that version of Windows non-overlapped, non-graphical, with almost
> nothing except the name in common with the current Windows interface?  Is
> there anything in 3.1 that can be traced back to 1.0?

The only overlapped windows were popup windows (and there were apps that
went through the trouble of doing this.)  Windows 1.01 was very graphical,
and there is more code than you may realize that is similar.  If you ever
have a chance you should peruse the Windows 1.01 SDK - the core APIs are
mostly the same.  I am still impressed by the design of Windows, particularly
when compared to other windowsing systems of that era, such as GEM or TopView.

Another place to look is the June '87 Byte review of the SDK - it diagrams
the process necessary to create a Windows application, and I think you'll
find that the process is very similar (of course IDEs have changed it
somewhat.)  Thankfully the 9 minute compile/link cycle times have gone away.

Disclaimer: I cowrote that article, which was originally a comparative review
of the GEM SDK and the Windows 1.01 SDK.

Lee
My Opinions.
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From: jfriesne@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (An Agnostic)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Essence of flame
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:02:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Bvps6t.HGz@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>OK Lets see how many derogatory terms I've come across (mostly in
>comp.sys.amiga.advocacy):
>
[list deleted to keep my newsreader happy]

>WordPerfect             Word Imperfect
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmm, I always preferred to call it "Word Pregnant"....


Jeremy

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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Windows UI guidelines?
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 18:27:38 GMT

Steve Loughran writes
> 
> Isn't it about time MS came out with some UI guidelines?

[many well-thought out comments deleted]

Hear hear.  Take a look at NeXT and how the interface is consistent  
across apps, not just in menu structure and command-key combinations,  
but visual look and feel.  All buttons look like buttons.  Sliders  
are sliders.  Pop-up lists are pop-up lists.  Even toolbars are often  
very similar across apps (eg in graphics programs, the tools palettes  
have very similar icons; no need to look at the manual to see what  
they do).  And not only is the interface consistent, but it is also,  
IMHO, the most beautiful around (no flames, please, just a subjective  
opinion).
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: Windows == OS (NOT!)
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:13:03 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <jbone.717778010@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>925wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>
>> ...[Windows] certainly has great usefulness and has done more to
>> speed up the PC revolution than anything yet...
>>
>
>I'll take that flame bait...  ;)  

     Me too...


>Windows is nothing but a low-grade rip-off of the Mac GUI, which is
>what *truly* revolutionized PCs and the way we use them.

     And, of course, the Mac GUI was nothing but a low-grade rip-off
of the Xerox PARC work...

				-Phil
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Windows == OS (NOT!)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:07:39 GMT

tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>Surprise!  Microsoft started development of Windows waaaay back in 1981,
>and announced it in October (?) of 1983, before the Macintosh was announced
>(but the Lisa was already on the market).

Wasn't that version of Windows non-overlapped, non-graphical, with almost
nothing except the name in common with the current Windows interface?  Is
there anything in 3.1 that can be traced back to 1.0?

--Tim Smith
From: ketil@spurv.ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows UI guidelines?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:40:46 GMT
Reply-To: ketil@ii.uib.no
Organization: student of computer science at the University of Bergen, Norway

In article <1ad9k9INNllh@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes:

   In visual beauty, I agree.  It's true Star Trek.

   I think that perhaps openlook might be slightly
   superior in mechanical functioning.  Mac is good but not as good as these.
   Motif, and especially Windows suck.

You could try to run desqview/X.  I have no experience with it myself,
but it supposedly run windows and dos apps under X. This means your
choice of window manager, as well as ability to export/import windows
to the net.

It wouldn't change your applications significantly, though.

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From: tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Considering getting an SGI indigo
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:00:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct2.200058.12420
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu writes:
>Have you considered either getting a NeXT or waiting till early next  

I was under the impression that he was considering getting something for
use at home, which rules out NeXT.  NeXT (at least, the ones that they
sell here at UW) only are FCC certified for office use.

--Tim Smith
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From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Essence of flame
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:29:35 GMT
Organization: ISC - Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA

In article <Bvps6t.HGz@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>OK Lets see how many derogatory terms I've come across (mostly in
>comp.sys.amiga.advocacy):
>
>Macintosh               MacinTrash,MacinToss

Macintoast

>PC                      PeeCee

Piec-a Chit (mon!)

>MS-DOS

Messy DOS, Misery DOS, Missed-OS

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: FCC Class A (was Considering getting an SGI indigo)
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:15:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.210440.12621@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes:
>The difference between Class A and Class B is that the guvmint boys think
>a Class B device *might* cause TV interference under certain circumstances,
>while a Class A device *will* cause TV interference under those circumstances,
>which are pretty rare in practice.

That is actually reassuring. Now what about chordless phones? What if an 
emergency call failed due to interference from a Class A device?
 
Are we only talking TV sets here?
 
[ ]

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: leehart@microsoft.com (Lee Hart)
Subject: Re: Windows == OS (NOT!)
Date: 04 Oct 92 04:11:19 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Oct1.182823.4978@cuug.ab.ca>, edwardsk@cuug.ab.ca (Kenneth Edwards 268-6500) writes:
> You gotta *LOVE* a marketing department that can sell $2,000,000 worth
> of BETA test kits.  Not only do they get the software tested, they make
> money doing it.

I don't see how you can claim money was made.  Add up the cost of goods and
shipping for several versions of a pre-release product, as well as a
packaged final product, and I think you will find that there is really not
much, if any (I don't know the numbers) being made.  I remember a time not
too long ago when a certain OS vendor was charging $60 per drop for a copy
of the beta of their OS.

Lee
My opinions, etc.
From: designer@archeteque.Corp.Sun.COM (David Posey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows == OS (NOT!)
Date: 2 Oct 1992 00:09:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: designer@archeteque.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: archeteque.corp.sun.com

>>Windows is nothing but a low-grade rip-off of the Mac GUI, which is
>>what *truly* revolutionized PCs and the way we use them.

>     And, of course, the Mac GUI was nothing but a low-grade rip-off
>of the Xerox PARC work...

>				-Phil

So that would make Windows a 7 year project, which reduces usability
while increasing resource requirements, to unsuccessfully emulate a
low-grade rip-off of the Xerox PARC work...

-David

MS Technology:
If you can't keep up, hire a PR firm to claim you were already there.

**Obviously, I speak for myself**