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From: bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Bad Musicals <was: "Worst Movie Of All Time, so bad it's bad!>
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:40:49 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov11.162355.27820@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

[Stuff deleted quoting my reaction to his post regarding Can't Stop The Music]
> 
> The "quote" about the crews nickname comes from "The Hollywood Hall Of 
> Shame" by the Medved brothers...
> I am ashamed at trusting the Medfly twits for information> I should have
> known better...> 
> Sorry for any offense.

Thanks.
I'm sorry if I over-reacted, which looking back, I probably did.

> PS: but the film is not very good, regardless.

I couldn't agree with you more (just watch the "Milkshake" scene - YEECHHH!),
but it was popular in some markets.  As far as it being available for
under $10, as someone posted in another followup article, it had been
"in print" since it's original video release, I think in '85, at a
price of $89.99 from EMI Home Video.  It was with EMI's demise and the
transfer of rights that it fell in the "Goodtimes Video" section for
under $10.  In Japan it's available on Laserdisk, and is a popular
title.  Unfortunately, it is not available in a very much needed
letterboxed version.  The available P&S versions (there are several,
all very badly done) don't help make the movie any better.

Having worked with the Village People on occasion, I know that they
actually do have real talent.  Many factors, especially those
involving producers and record companies has prevented them from
demonstrating it very well.  They had very little to do with the
original script for the movie, which is a very sore subject with them.
In fact, they have had very little influence on any of the material
that they performed.  Remember that they were a producer's medium, not
a real band or group.  Views expressed were those of their producer
and not their own.  And NO, the Village People are not all gay.

BTW, someone mentioned Glenn's (Leatherman) scene singing "O Danny
Boy".  This was based on his original audition for the group at which
he sang "Where Do I Go" from HAIR.  I believe they used "Danny Boy"
because it was public domain (no royalties), and Glenn's father's
favorite song.

Sorry again for the extra-flaming.

Bil Gonzalez
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From: peter@spider.co.uk (Peter Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Nudity by leading actors
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:02:26 GMT
	<1992Nov1.061541.24491@cs.uwp.edu>
	<1992Nov4.210256.29338@risky.ecs.umass.edu>
	<1992Nov9.001113.18932@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Nov9.001113.18932@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> edf250y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Marks) writes:
   >>>great disparity but can anyone give me an example of male actors
   >>>bearing all? I'd hate to just surrender this point without a fight. 

Graham Chapman (as Brian) is seen full frontal in "Life of Brian", when he
opens his window at home to find thousands of followers waiting outside...

Of course, this sequence attracted no comment at all, whereas the rest of
the film caused all that trouble (seems so silly and so long ago).

P
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From: chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov (Charles Cilek)
Subject: Re: My opinion of Under Siege(possible spoiler)
 
Reply-To: chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:29:19 GMT

In article 1du7nlINN3qc@eagle.natinst.com, darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie) writes:
> Another thing which bothered me is that how did Segal know exactly how
> much time to "cook" the "homemade bomb" that he put in the microwave.
> I mean that the buzzer happen to go off right before the bomb exploded and
> there happen to be several of the terrorists in the room at the time.

Easy, Segal turned the lights off by turning off the *circuit breaker*. When the
bad guys turned the breaker back on, both the lights and the microwave started.
Obviously the amount of time to microwave a bomb is covered in Special Forces
Cooking 101.
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From: goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman)
Subject: Woody Guthrie Song at the end of "Bob Roberts"
Reply-To: goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman)
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:28:31 GMT


I heard that teh soundtrack to Bob Roberts is not going to be released,
but does anyone know if the Woody Guthrie song played during the closing
credits is available anywhere?  I think it was called 
"Tell me mister, I gotta know"

I havn't seen it on  any  Guthrie stuff I've encountered....


-Mike
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From: wkm1@nestor.uucp (24102-messer)
Subject: XMAS MOVIES
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 12:51:20 GMT


On the subject of Xmas movies, has anyone mentioned
the two biggies from Irving Berlin???

Holiday Inn
White Christmas
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Movie Review - "Marquis"
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:09:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov5.090944.20551
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I just saw an interesting new French movie: "Marquis". It's a farce
based on the life of the Marquis de Sade, during the time that he was
in the Bastille right before the French Revolution.

The movie itself is fairly unusual - the actors all wear large puppet
masks that are animal charicatures. The main characters are the
Marquis himself, the Marquis' penis Colin, a bishop, the jailer,
Juliette, Justine, and sundry revolutionaries.

The story was well written. The "plot" involves the Marquis'
experiences in the Bastille during the year before the revolution. The
characters are mainly written in de Sade's own satire - the bishop is
a lech, the jailer is a sodomite, etc. Justine and Juliette receive
better treatment than the de Sade himself gave them - they are fairly
sympathetic characters. Curiously, the Marquis himself is portrayed as
a serene and intellectual man, distanced from the violent sexual acts
he writes about.

I should note that in that the movie is based on the writings of the
Marquis de Sade, there are some scenes that portray distrubing
violence against women. I felt the movie itself was quite non-sexist,
especially the way Justine and Juliette were real characters, but
there are some upsetting scenes.

The director (whose name I have forgotten, unfortunately) did a great
job on the film. The music's good, and the costumes are wonderful, and
basically everything is well done except the subtitling. Worth your
time to see, if you can find it. Check the repertory theatres in your
area.
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From: jonathan@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Jonathan L Neuenschwander)
Subject: Home Alone II (Two?  Too?  Oh, whatever)
Keywords: When?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date:  8 Nov 92 20:37:00 GMT

When is the sequel to Home Alone going to be released?  (Notice how I deftly
avoid the title confusion in the subject line.  :-) 

Thanks!

Jonathan


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From: giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: DAVID LYNCH\DUNE
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:29:15 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <996.39.uupcb@hal9000.UUCP> george.bruner@hal9000.UUCP (George Bruner)  writes:
>Was anyone else out there disappointed with David Lynch's "Dune"?
>The movie brutally left out important parts in the book and the
>screenplay was awful. I've found Lynch's "Blue Velvet" and "Wild at
>Heart" to be refreshingly offbeat, but I think his style of filmmaking
>is not suited to sci-fi. I would have liked to have seen some sort of TV
>mini-series -- a string of two hour segments -- done by a Spielberg or
>Lucas instead.
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Have you seen the TV (long) version also?  There are some extra
scenes like Freeman extracting the water of life from a baby worm
, Gurney playing his lute, ...  I enjoyed both versions
but there are definitely deficiencies.  I remember thinking in the
theater how hard it was to follow even though I had already read
the first 3 books of the series.

You know of course that Lynch didn't put his name on the film
(Albert Smithee I think, right?)... and no, I don't know where to
find the long version on tape-- please tell me if you find it.
I have about 1.5 hours of a TV recording.

It's really too bad that there were so many problems with its
production.  Dino DeLaurentis believed it would become the
"next" Star Wars and apparently just kept pouring money into it.

Rocky Giovinazzo
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From: dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans)
Subject: Re: Tough question but perhaps wrong group
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:40:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.181355.7515@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.) writes:
|> HI, my friend says she saw a porn film with Sylvester Stallone and
|> among other things she saw Mr. Stallone:
|> 1)receiving oral sex (it could have been with the hand actually but I
|> don't remember)
|> 2)fully naked
|> 3)moaning a lot
|> 4)was well endowed
|> 
|> Is this true? Is this actually a movie or was she pulling my leg? If it
|> is how much of this is true and how much did she make up?
|> Weird, weird question
|> thanks a lot
|> Joe Marcheso

He WAS in a porn movie, before he was famous, called "Italian Stallion"
ergo the nickname.  (No, I've never seen it, but have seen a still
from it)
From: saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park: my cast.
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:33:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxMEGJ.KME
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

carlos@spanky.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion) writes:

>After more than half way through the book, I was thinking of who I would like
>to see playing the different parts,

>Hammond (the billionaire): Johnny Carson, yeah I know...but that's who I see.

Personally, I always saw Ross Perot, probably because right when
I was reading the book, Ross was sniveling and wining like a little
child, and that is what (IMO) Hammond is doing  at the end.

>Wu (the geneticist): YoYo Ma (the celloist), yeah I KNOW, but that's who I see!

YoYo Ma is a cellist, not a celloist.

Scotty AJ
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From: redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Bad reviews, liked it anyway???
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:53:17 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	Well, it got flamed by reviewers, but I LOVED _Far and Away_.

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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Censorship in the 1930's Hollywood
Originator: reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 20:31:54 GMT

There were recently a couple of articles in this newsgroup that
made their way in from rec.arts.books.  Among other things, they
concerned the amount of harm done by the Breen Code (in the 1930's
to 1960's) to American films.  Mr. Clayton Cramer claimed that the
Code led to lots of good movies, and that, in principle, if not in
details, the idea of a production code adhered to by all major 
American studios was a good one.  I differed.  (If I am mistating
Mr. Cramer's position, I apologize and urge him to correct me.)

As it happens, the most recent issue of Film Comment (Nov/Dec, with
Daniel Day-Lewis and Madeleine Stowe on the cover) has a detailed
description of an actual case in which the production code of the
1930's gutted a promising film, leaving it as a rather mediocre
effort more interesting for who was involved than for what was on
the screen.

The film in question is "The Devil Doll", one of Tod Browning's last
American films.  In brief, the film concerns a man who makes use of
shrunken people to get revenge on his enemies.  The article makes the
original script sound extremely interesting.  For those who know
Browning's best work, this looked like it could be as good as "Freaks"
or "Dracula".  Then Breen and co. pulled out their red pens and hatchets
and chopped the life (and death) out of it.  They were abetted by the
studio system, which assigned new writers to handle the changes, instead
of using Browning and Guy Endore, the authors of the original script.
(Bizarrely, one of those new authors was Eric von Stroheim, fairly 
fresh from his own studio mangling.)

What's especially interesting, for the purpose of this discussion, is
the picayune way the censors chipped away not just at the most obviously
offensive elements, but at quite trivial items, too.  In so doing, they
essentially succeeded in removing all points of interest from the script,
and, naturally, from the resulting film.

It's my belief that this problem occurred not because of details of
how this particular censorship code was set up, but by the nature of
censorship bureaus.  (The fact that it was, in theory, voluntary
makes no difference, especially since it wasn't the writers and directors 
who did the volunteering.)  It is in the very nature of censorship boards
to expand their scope and work to the very letter of their law, regardless 
of what is squashed in doing so.  This article makes it very clear exactly 
what would happen if we had such a censorship code today.  None of us could
possibly predict all of the things the censors would choose to cut,
except to say that they would certainly prohibit things none of us would
have expected.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
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From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: "Batman Returns" lines
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<akHDTB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:42:44 GMT

   >  PB> In article <1bbvhbINN9l6@werple.apana.org.au>
   >  PB> hamster@werple.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) writes: >
   >  >"Batman Returns" contains my favorite neon sign joke; the art-deco sign
   >  >in Michelle Pfieffer's apartment reads "HELLO THERE". After a temper
   >  >tantrum during her transition to the, err, more slippery side of her
   >  >character, the newly broken sign calmly announces, "HELL HERE". 

I certainly saw the change in the sign, but I didn't think it was a
joke -- it was pretty clearly intended as showing us more of her
mental collapse.

-Joe.
From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park
Keywords: Jeff Goldblum
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:15:28 GMT

In <Bx7srs.EDz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> holthaus@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (CJ Holthaus) writes:

>In Nov 4th's USA Today's Life section, there is an article on Jeff Goldblum.
>It mentions about the filming of Jurassic Park.  He is cast as the chaos
>mathematician.  The movie also stars Laura Dern.  The movie will continue
>filming until December. 

Who plays the lead archaeologist? (I'm assuming Laura Dern is playing the
plant expert).

Phil
From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Request--DieHard3
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:55:22 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

u0f98@seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk  writes:
> From vn Mon Nov  9 16:18:14 1992
> Subject: Re: Request--DieHard 3
> From article <1992Nov6.211857.9629@athena.mit.edu>, by troth@athena.mit.edu (LeaAnn Collins):
> > Did anyone save the "promo" for DieHard 3--It's a Small World
> > that was posted here a while ago.  I thought it was really funny
> > & I would appreciate it if someone would email me a copy.  
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > ---LeaAnn Collins
> Can someone email this to me too please. Thanks.
> 	Dominator
> 

Would whoever wrote it just repost it, please? It's the only
way to stem the tide of requests like this.

Besides, I want it too.

Steve
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From: lroberts@bellahs.com (Laurence Roberts PSE)
Subject: Movies quoting movies
Organization: Bell Atlantic Healthcare Systems
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:49:22 GMT

Mad Max quotes from Fritz Lang's M (the ball bouncing away after the
death of a child) and Cocteau's Orpheus (the motorcyclists of death)

Larry-bob
From: crisper@deeptht.armory.com (Crisper Than Thou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Repoman, additional scenes in the TV version?
Date: 2 Nov 92 06:12:38 GMT
Organization: The Armory, Santa Cruz (crisper@armory.com)

In article <1992Oct28.183028.9739@convex.com> jjones@convex.com (Jeff Jones) writes:
>In article <lera4bINNr1r@news.bbn.com> levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
>>
>>OK, my favorite example is REPO MAN.  Catch it on TV and listen to
>>them talking about "flippin' this" and "flippin' that".  
>
>	when flippin' through the channels a few weeks back,
>	i caught the last 15-20 minutes of the TV version of repoman.
>
>	there was a scene near the end where otto returns home and 
>	finds his parents covered with cobwebs.  
>

I don't remember this from the TV version I saw a few years back, but I
 *do* remember a scene where the Weird Scientist in the Malibu is at the
 gas station-- he's looking for vending machines and this leads into a
 weird monologue about how vended food contains all the nutrients needed
 to sustain life. The version I rented a few weeks ago lacked this scene and
 it caught me by surprise-- and yet I've never met anyone else who remembers
 the bit about the value of vended food.

I don't remember the cobwebs thing, although now that I think about it, I'm
 sure the TV version *did* have two scenes involving his parents-- I guess
 that's the second one. This goes a long way towards reassuring me that
 I did not, perhaps, hallucinate the others bits of Repo Man that seem to
 be lacking from the version available on VHS.

>	are there other gems in the tv version?  should a die-hard
>	repo-afficianado keep two copies of the film?
>

I guess so, if you can find a copy with all the extra footage that isn't
 cut up in some other way (i.e. edited language, dropped scenes, commercials
 every 10 minutes, etc.)

>	- jeff
>
>				"it happens sometimes.
>				 people just expolode.
>				 natural causes."


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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Diehard III
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:47:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Nov11.220945.6616@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU writes:
>In <1dopn3INNgfq@eagle.natinst.com> darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie) writes:
>
>>I can see it now:   DIEHARD III: DIE HARDEST
>
>Sure...
>
>And then:
>
>DIE HARD IV: Die Most Hard!
>DIE HARD V: Just Die!
>DIE HARD VI: Die, You Pig!
>DIE HARD VII: Die, Or I'll Kill You!

Don't forget DIE HARD VIII, 'The Undiscovered Country'. Oops, wrong thread.



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From: clsable@burst.Princeton.EDU (Carl Lewis Sable)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 1992 Oscars
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:00:27 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <MULLINS.92Nov3164216@media-lab.media.mit.edu> mullins@media.mit.edu (Atty Mullins) writes:
>
>I believe it was Anthony Hopkins for his chilling portrayal of
>Hannibal Lector in "The Silence of the Lambs". I'm not sure though -- 
>says alot for my memory.
>
>-A.
The winner was indeed Anthony Hopkins.  In fact, "The Silence of the Lambs"
won all five major awards (Picture, Director, Actor, Actress, Adapted 
Screenplay).  But it was the 1991 Oscars.  The 1992 Oscars taks place in
1993.

-Carl
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From: umdenbo0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David A. Denboer)
Subject: Ennio Morricone Discography?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:31:12 GMT

Can anyone give me a complete list of films scored by Ennio Morricone?
I have quite a few of the soundtracks on CD (the best being Cinema Paradiso)
but am still missing quite a few.  If you know whether or not they are available
on CD, that would be great.
Please mail replies to me, as I don't get to this list often enough, and I
will compile and post them if interest is great enough!

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From: jonathan@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Jonathan L Neuenschwander)
Subject: Re: Movies you heard sucked and did
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date:  9 Nov 92 06:45:01 GMT

thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:
>But seriously, a film that sprang to mind was "The Addam's Family".
>The trailer was really good. Everyone told me the film was crap. I saw
>it anyway. It was crap.
>Great production design. Truly inspired casting. Not bad photography.
>Pity about the script really...

I rather enjoyed it actually.  Especially Wednesday and Pugsley's(sp?) sword
fight scene -- classic!  :-)

Jonathan


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