HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jba@ruc.dk (Jan Bruun Andersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: more, vi, etc. scroll too many lines
Keywords: HELP!
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:30:28 GMT
Organization: Roskilde Universitetscenter, Danmark


I've seen this behavior many times. To me it looks like something/someone
(kernel,telnet?) forgets to reset the size of the tty. 

When it happens, you can try and do a 'stty -a' and see if the settings
for rows and colums are wrong. If they are, just do a 'stty rows NN cols NN'
and more, vi and friends should work again.

-- 
Jan B. Andersen <jba@dat.ruc.dk>                 ("SIMULA does it with class")
From: peter@martha.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Peter Heimann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: du and df difference
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:53:49 GMT
Reply-To: peter@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Organization: Informatik III, RWTH Aachen

In <BEN.92Apr10141338@cit3sun1.it3.crl.mei.co.jp> ben@it3.crl.mei.co.jp (Ben Reaves) writes:

>I tried "df /var" and see that about 7777 kb are used, 234 free.
>I tried "du /var" and see that it is about 620 kb
>Now, I know that du will report blocks in mounted filesystems and df won't.
>That would make du report more than df; in this case, du reports much less.
>Neither one of them follow symbolic links.  None of the directory-type files
>is big enough to account for it.  "find /var -ls" doesn't show anything
>promising, either.

I assume "/var" is a separate partition on your system and not part of "/".
(Otherwise "df /var" would report the space on the whole root partition,
not "/var" alone.)
Perhaps you have another mount on top of "/var/something" which covers the
disk hog?
Another possible cause: a process has opened and deleted a big file in "/var".
This file will use space until the process closes it, but will not be
visible in a directory listing.

-- Peter Heimann

Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik III        peter@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
RWTH Aachen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: cjw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher J. Wargaski)
Subject: Losing time ahhhhh!
Followup-To: cjw@thynne.psych.nwu.edu
Summary: Why me?
Keywords: anyone?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:01:21 GMT


Hi there.

I have an old Sun 4/110 that is starting to lose time.  About 1 minute
every ten.  My question is why does this happen?  Can I fix it in any
other way then using ``date -a [-]sss.fff''?  

Is date the best way of solving the problem?

Please reply to above address.

Thanks,
Chris Wargaski
-- 

__________________________________________________________________
Christopher Wargaski -or- Shipwreck Harris Goat
From: zaz@jersey (Todd Koeckeritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Dialin logins "hang" around after logout
Keywords: last w who wtmp logins Telebit dialin
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:00:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: jersey.1992Apr10.160021.4796
Distribution: na
Organization: Euler Solutions, Inc.

Net friends,
  We are having a problem on a SPARC 2 running the latest and greatest SunOS
release.  A user logs in on our dialin port, does his business and then logs
out.  For some reason the wtmp entry is not getting cleared.  The modem is a
Telebit no ttya, ttya-ignore-cd is false, ttya-rts-dtr-off is false, we have
a straight through cable and the modem is set to drop CD for 1 second after
carrier goes away.

  last still thinks the user is logged in, w thinks the user is logged in
and is running - (not -csh or - anything, just - like the getty gets).  Does
anyone have any light they can shed on this matter.

  Thanks in advance for any help someone might offer.

Todd

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|  Euler Solutions, Inc., Minneapolis, MN, USA H:(612)537-4264 W:(612)635-0088|
|  wARE, Inc.,            Minneapolis, MN, USA                 W:(612)638-9273|
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From: wse@rio70.snibln.de (Willi Engels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Re: Weird problems with groups on Pyramid
Date: 12 Apr 92 09:12:49 GMT
Reply-To: engels.bln@sni.de (Wilhelm Engels)
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG, Berlin, Germany

In <1872@wrdis01.af.mil> jshumate@wrdis01.af.mil (Shumate Jason) writes:

>I have been having some really weird problems with groups on Pyramid.  Let

[ description off problem with setgid delete ]

>-rwxr-s---   Joe   mygroup   2000 test*

[ more description deleted ]

sorry, can't help you with your problem, unless ...
but i can't believe that.
when i started programming in c, i wrote a programm called "test" and 
was not able to execute that.
the reason was:
test is a shell builtin # output from !type test
just my 0.02 pfennigs
willi
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From: tr@samadams.princeton.edu (Tom Reingold)
Subject: Re: Weird problems with groups on Pyramid
Organization: Noo Joizy, USA
Date:  9 Apr 92 19:20:44 GMT

A couple of things come to mind.  First, don't name a program "test"
because that is often a built-in shell command.  No matter how you set
your PATH variable, a file called test is not guaranteed to be run.

Second, if this environment is based on System V Release 3 -- and I
believe it is --, mary does not only have to be a member of your group
but her gid must be set to that gid before she can execute the
program.  If the "id" program doesn't show her to be a member, she must
run "newgrp".  (This requirement does not exist in BSD-based UNIX
versions.)  Without running newgrp, she will be denied permission to
run the program, even if she is shown to be a member in /etc/group.
--
        Tom Reingold
        tr@samadams.princeton.edu  OR  ...!princeton!samadams!tr
        "Warning: Do not drive with Auto-Shade in place.  Remove
        from windshield before starting ignition."
From: wbt@cs.tulane.edu (Bill Thomason)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.syn.admin
Subject: Problems rdumping from a Pyramid to a Sun
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:58:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr15.205814.6328
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-6289]: proteus

I'm trying to dump a file system on a Pyramid 9815 to a Sun IPX that has
a 150MB tape drive attached to it.

Whenever I issue an rdump command to dump to the IPX from the Pyramid, I get
the following error message:

    rcmd: socket: Permission denied.

I'm attempting to do this using an account that belongs to groups that
own both the hard disk device on the Pyramid and the tape device on the
Sun (as luck would have it, these groups are different).

The group associated with the Pyramid disk device is root while the group
associated with the tape device is sunstaff.

The permission denied problem is odd because the user id associated with
the rdump does have access to the devices on the IPX.

Has anybody seen this before?
-- 
Bill Thomason                           Email: wbt@cs.tulane.edu
Dept. of Computer Science                      thomason@cs.tulane.edu
Tulane University                              rex!wbt
New Orleans, LA 70118
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
From: wbt@cs.tulane.edu (Bill Thomason)
Subject: Problems rdump'ing to a Sun
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:38:48 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-5604]: proteus

I'm trying to use rdump to backup a filesystem on a Pyramid 9815 running
OSx 5.1 to a QIC-150 tape drive attached to a Sun IPX workstation.

If I try issuing the command:

    /etc/rdump 1unfcs proteus:/dev/nrst0 1500 /dev/iop/pdisk01n

I get the message:

    rcmd: socket: Permission denied

The backup is being done from a user account that belongs to the groups root
and sunstaff.

Has anybody run into this problem before?  If so, what was your solution?

thanks,
-bill
-- 
Bill Thomason                           Email: wbt@cs.tulane.edu
Dept. of Computer Science                      thomason@cs.tulane.edu
Tulane University                              rex!wbt
New Orleans, LA 70118
From: jshumate@wrdis01.af.mil (Shumate Jason)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Weird problems with groups on Pyramid
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:09:27 GMT
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB

I have been having some really weird problems with groups on Pyramid.  Let
me explain.  I have a program that I want to run as setgid so that everyone
in the group can have the permissions belonging to the owner.  Let's
call my program "test" and say we have a group called "mygroup" that 
is in /etc/groups that contains Mary, Joe, Jason.  The directory "test" is
in has a permission of 777 all the way up the directory tree, so anyone
on the system can reach it.  The directory looks like this:

-rwxr-s---   Joe   mygroup   2000 test*

In theory, all members of the group "mygroup" can execute test with the
same permissions as Joe, right?  Well, on my box, Joe can execute test,
Jason can execute test, but Mary can't.  Absolute pathnames were used, and
the  C-shell command "groups" shows Mary as being in the group, yet she
can not execute test!  This is analogous to a situation that is occurring
right now on my Pyramid 9805 which runs OSx 5.0d.  I called Pyramid several
weeks ago to ask them if they knew of any bugs in setgid, and they were nice
but very unhelpful.  Basically, they think I don't know what I'm doing.
While I am certainly willing to admit that I am not perfect, I can't shake
the feeling that Pyramid has a bug in setgid that is causing me grief.  Has
anyone else had a problem similar to mine?  I should add another Pyramid
group problem that occurred - when the group "mygroup" was set up, our
system refused to allow any members of the group "mygroup" execute the
"test" program, so we changed the name of the group.  Magically, the group
members could now execute "test", so we changed the name of the group back
to "mygroup" and most of the users could still execute "test", with the
exception of the above problem.  I figure either Pyramid has a problem
that they need to catch and fix or I need to be educated out of my ignorance,
so any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.  By the way, please
don't suggest that I run my program with a permission of 750 and drop the
setgid stuff.  For reason I don't want to go into, I want to run this program
as setgid.  I assume that setting the permissions on the file to 2750 is
all I have to do to run a program as setgid, assuming the right group is
used.  Again, thanks for your help.
-- 
CUL8R,                                | "... you're living in a world of make
Jason Shumate                         |  believe!  With flowers and bells and
System Administrator, wrdis02         |  leprechauns and magic frogs with
jshumate@logdis1.wr.aflc.af.mil       |  funny little hats." -  Homer Simpson
From: ghh@clarity.Princeton.EDU (Gilbert Harman)
Subject: Psion 3 Agenda Format
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University Cognitive Science Lab
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:10:15 GMT

I would like to be able to download an ascii diary file to
use as an Agenda file in my Psion 3.  Does anyone know how
to do this or what the format is of Agenda files?
--

	Gilbert Harman, Princeton University Cognitive Science Lab
	221 Nassau Street, Princeton, NJ 08542
	ghh@clarity.princeton.edu
From: bruce@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Bruce Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: What means FLASH rom card ?
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:51:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvra.65300122
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

/ hpcvra:comp.sys.palmtops / everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser) /  8:16 am  Apr  9, 1992 /
cohen@cmu.unige.ch writes...
>The term FLASH rom card occurs quiet often. What does FLASH exactly
>stand for ?

I don't know whether FLASH is an acronym for anything, but basically the FLASH
technology is an electrically erasable programmable ROM.  The trick is that
you don't erase the WHOLE thing at once (on the other hand you DO erase LARGE
parts of it at once, on the order of 128K bytes per erase chunk).  It requires
something on the order of 12 volts to erase or program it (I'm not sure which)
which makes it more difficult to use from the hardware point of view (than
something that runs purely off of 5v).  Because it erases in LARGE chunks, it
can't be used for a standard DOS disk, unless of course, you treat it just as
a ROM and don't make use of its erasable characteristics.  If you treat it
just as a ROM (after programming it), then you CAN program it (all in one
swell foop) with a standard DOS disk image, and then (as a read-only device)
it will work just fine in any old PCMCIA 1.0 or above system (unless of course
it's a 5v card and the machine you're running in is a 3v system maybe).

INTEL has created their own file system (the flash file system) which is a
(WARNING!!! PERSONAL OPINION AHEAD!!!  WARNING!!! DUCK YOUR HEAD!!!!) god-awful
ugly piece of kludge if I've ever seen one, destined for the dust heap of
technological oblivion as soon as the technology advances a little further.  On
the other hand, I've been wrong before. :-)

Does that help?  If not, take two aspirin and don't call me.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds
From: Jim De Arras <jmd@banana.handheld.com>
Subject: Parallel cable for PC-3100, help finding!
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:23:26 GMT

I just received a PC-3100 from our Hong-Kong office for a special
project, and found that is has odd, mini, 20 and 10 pin connectors for
parallel and serial connections.  I need to find adaptors for these in the USA
preferable, due to the costs of shipping from HK.  They are Sharp #s:
CE-302CB for the serial and
CE-301CB for the parallel.

ANY help in locating a rapid source for these appreciated!

Please e-mail replies to jmd@banana.handheld.com

Thanks,
Jim De Arras
From: diamant@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (John Diamant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: file transfer between 95LX and Mac?
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:32:02 GMT
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO

In comp.sys.palmtops, petel+@STICKY.MESS.CS.CMU.EDU (Peter Lee) writes:

> Has anyone out there had any success transferring (binary) files
> between the HP95LX and a Macintosh?  I can send text to the Mac, but
> when I send a binary using Kermit or Xmodem, it gets garbled (i.e.,
> sending a *.pbk file over (in binary file mode) and then back again
> results in a file that won't load into the phone book).

> Any suggestions your might have would be most welcome.

You need to set your kermit to be in binary mode before performing the
transfer.  How to do so depends on the particular version of kermit, but on
the 95, it's available from the Kermit:options menu and on C kermit it's
available via "set file type binary".


John Diamant
Software Engineering Systems Division
Hewlett Packard Co.		ARPA Internet: diamant@fc.sde.hp.com
Fort Collins, CO		UUCP:  {hpfcla,hplabs}!hpfclp!diamant

This response does not represent the official position of, or statement
by, the Hewlett-Packard Company.  The above data is provided for informational
purposes only.  It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95LX backups and lharc
Keywords: backup. archive, lharc
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:31:28 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.

In article <1992Apr14.185330.15185@midway.uchicago.edu>, ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu (Patrick Palmer) writes:
|> I am trying to figure out an efficient way to backup the HP95LX.  

I do this all the time.  Works great.  Do:

1) Get the Connectivity Pack.

2) Throw out everything but the cable and the DC95 / DCS95.

3) Install DCS95 on the 95, and run DC95 on your computer.

4) I back up my machine in these commands:

	dc95				-- turn it on
	copy d:*.* card_backup		-- RAM card
	copy e:*.* c_backup		-- drive C
	copy e:_dat\*.* dat_backup	-- C:\_DAT
	dc95 -u				-- turn it off

Easy, simple, quick.

Craig A. Finseth			fin@unet.umn.edu [CAF13]
Networking Services			+1 612 624 3375 desk
Computer and Information Services	+1 612 625 0006 problems
University of Minnesota			+1 612 626 1002 fax
130 Lind Hall, 207 Church St SE
Minneapolis MN 55455-0134, USA
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: re. backup mode
Date: 31 Mar 92 18:39:30 GMT
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Mar30.163135.24170@src.honeywell.com> (riley@src.honeywell.com) writes:
>
[Soft reset doesn't help when his 95 won't shut off]

Try doing a hard reset, and then hit the power button. I've gotten my 95
into a mode sometimes from just playing around where it will lock up 
in a similar fashion and won't shut off. I got the 'On' switch to be
recognized by doing a hard reset and just hitting the 'On' button
while it was waiting at the 'Initialize RAM Disk' question. The Jag
obediently recognizes the button and powers down at this point.
Just remember to type 'N' when you turn it back on :)

---Steve
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"Welcome to the Politically Correct States of America. Please turn your mind
in to the nearest oppressed minority pressure group. It will be returned to
you once we've decided what you can think"
From: lisa@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Lisa Stroyan)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:28:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Nasty nasty HP95LX bug
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

In comp.sys.palmtops, paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater) writes:

Before I write this reply, let me point out that as always, I *do not*
represent HP.  With that said...

>One day I was in the middle of saving my appointment book, when the
>low battery detectory decided to go into backup mode.  No problem I
>thought -- I had spare batteries in my bag, so changed them
>immediately.  The system came up normally, with all data intact --
>except that my 1.ABK file was 0 bytes in length!!!!  

You are right, that is a nasty bug, and shouldn't have happened.

>I don't like systems which make it so easy to lose data.  Please,
>HP, in your next ROM revision why not leave a backup somewhere of
>the file like some DOS programs do !  (I understand that this
>software was probably written by Lotus, but HP tested it so they
>should have foreseen this one.)

>I did a chkdsk/f, and ended up with three *.chk files.  I'm hoping
>to reconstruct my appointment book from them.

**Mild flame on***
But what happened to your backups???  All computers should be backed
up, but especially the 95LX!  Personally, I don't *wan't* backup files
lying around on the 95.  Disk space is too precious; that would be
about another 10-15K, doing nothing.  I back it up myself every
morning anyway, so what would be the point?
**Mild flame off***

If you have a RAM card and DIET, there is one other precaution you can
take.  Unfortunately, this is a precaution against programs that trash
the C: disk, and wouldn't have helped you.  What I do is have a script
that copies various files over to A:\BAK, and then DIETs them.  Since
much of my data is on A: already, there is not that much on C: that
needs to be backed up to A:.  If A: has problems too, I have to
restore from my workstation, but I have never had that happen yet.  So
I run this script before running a new program.  In fact I usually
copy the new program to C:, and remove the RAM card.  Then if my C:
disk gets messed up, I don't have to wait until I can download from
the workstation backup, and since I did the backup to A: right before
running the program, everything is very current.  If it doesn't, I can
delete the backup stuff on A:.

In general, I agree that it is nice if programs backup their data.
Maybe there should have been an option to allow either choice.  But
hard-coding it in would not have been acceptable, at least for me.

Lisa

Lisa Stroyan
HP Software Engineering Systems Division (no relation to the palmtop division)
Fort Collins, CO
lisa@fc.sde.hp.com
From: gouthier@torino.maraut.it (Paolo Gouthier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP-95 -- Derive, .PCX files, backups
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:39:20 GMT
Organization: Magneti Marelli, Electronics Division (ITALY)

Please post the backup program to: eddie.mit.edu in distrib/hp95lx/inbound.

-- 

	Paolo Gouthier
	Magneti Marelli
	Divisione Elettronica
	C.so Giulio Cesare, 328
	I-10154 Torino (ITALY)

	Tel:	(+39 11) 205.43.51
	Fax:	(+39 11) 205.19.82
	Email:	PGouthier@torino.maraut.it
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: tiny modems for HP95LX? (FAQ?)
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:46:37 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <kureqpINN902@news.bbn.com> jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey) writes:
>does anyone have suggestions about what is a good small modem
>for the HP95LX?  Or perhaps models to avoid?

I have the Worldport 2400 and it works fine. The 95LX does not supply any
lines other than Send, receive and ground. You cannot use any modem that
requires DTR from the computer because it is not there!




Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
From: lhe@sics.se (Lars-Henrik Eriksson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95 to modem?
Keywords: serial port, modem
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:09:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: sics.1992Apr8.080928.8043
Reply-To: lhe@sics.se (Lars-Henrik Eriksson)
Organization: SICS, Kista (Stockholm), Sweden
Originator: lhe@yang.sics.se

In article <1992Apr7.062645.13586@midway.uchicago.edu>, ppalmer@oskar (Patrick Palmer) writes:
>I have been trying to use the HP95 serial port, and have not been able
>to get anything to work.  I have the correct pinout for the HP95
>serial port -- thanks to Everett Kaser's post, but I cannot get it to dial out.
>I have a Supra 9600 baud modem, and when I plug in the Amiga serial
>cable in in place of the HP95, it works fine.  (I am using the same
>settings as I do with the Amiga: 9600 baud, 8 bit, 1 stop bit, no
>parity, xon-xoff enabled.)  This modem is supposed to work fine with
>IBM compatibles, etc.  Is there any reason that a modem would give
>trouble with the HP95?

Yes, there is, and I believe that this is pointed out in the manual.
Modems in general require certain RS232 status signals from the
attached computer/terminal to operate properly - typically DTR (Data
Terminal Ready). The HP95LX does not generate any status signals.

The reason for the modem requireing this is to permit the computer to
terminate a call by dropping DTR and also to prevent a modem in answer
mode from answer a call if the computer is turned off.

The solution is to configure the modem to operate without any status
signals. This is usually - but not always - possible. Read the modem
manual to find out how. If you can't do this, you could try making a
special cable where some status signal generated by the modem
(typically DSR) is jumpered back to the modem.
-- 
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