From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Re: I'm very disappointed in Chinese
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:07:38 GMT

claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:

>So all you want are people who agree with you, huh?  Can't stand people who
>disagree with you?  Then try to become the next Mao, and no one will dare to
>disagree with you.

Nope, I don't mind people disagreeing with me, including yourself, some of
the opinions were quite interesting.  What I was complaining about is the
lack of inputs... I posted few suggestions, people flamed back, without
much constructive inputs themselves.  Then, people went off and concentrated
on Tibet and Chinese History, which is the least important part of my
first post.

>But the point is, if we do what you suggest (suppress Tibet, invade
>Mongolia, etc) that will *not* improve the condition of China.  It will only
>make China a bigger version of Serbia.

Read my other suggestions.  You are concentrating on two points I made,
where our differences lie in ideological differences.  But whatabout
the other economic and social improvement suggestions?

>OK, here we go.  (Not that anyone has the power to make this happen all at
>once)

Thanks you.

>2.	Let all provinces that wish to become independent or wish to become
>	a part of another country (e. g., Inner Mongolia) become independent.
>	They might be better or worse off because of the independence, but
>	it's their own choice.  Better to let them depart peacefully than to
>	let them stick around disgruntled.

That won't work.  China (like France) is made up of Provinces, not States.
In Australia or USA, there are States under a Federal government, and each
State is more or less like a semi-country.  But in China or France, provinces
are merely geological sub-divisions, it is not a seperate administrative
region, like states.

Inner Mongolia is NOT a province, it's an autonomous region.  About its
independance?  I don't think it's a good idea... based on ideological and
economical reasons, and I've discussed it before anyway.

>3.	Decentralize the government.  Having all decisions made by one
>	central government will *not* work, even if that government were
>	democratic, since the Chinese are a diverse people and the geographic
>	and other features of the various provinces are very different.

Agree in some cases, like social development.  In other cases, no,
in 1988, too much independance was given to regional economic development,
which led to economic over-heat, and high inflation (17% or more)... which
was cooled down after the central government took back control.  It's
been tried, and it's been proven that it won't work until China has more
foreign currency reserve funds.

I think the central government should spread out control gradually,
and look at the growth and funds of different regions.  For e.g.,
HKG and ShenZhen should be more independant as they HAVE the funds,
and growth is high... whereas Xian should be more centrally controlled
"at the moment", as the growth is low (compared to some parts), and
does not have the foreign funds that HKG/ShenZhen have.

>4.	Reinstitute the sense of morality into society, and give it new
>	meaning.  Set strong penalties for sexual discrimination/harassment,
>	for example.  Crack down on pimping/slavedealing.

Agree.

>Do you feel better now?  But have you realized that my suggestions, good or
>bad, and even if they were the most brilliant ideas in the world, cannot be
>carried out by anyone?

Wrong, the ONLY reason I started the trend was because the Secretary of
CCP is reading the trend.  Otherwise, I would not have bothered, knowing
that s.c.c. can only reach so many (or few) people.  Direct your suggestions
at HIM, not me!  He has the power (sorta) to implement the above and
more ideas, and transform China.

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