From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Football Failures at Bowie Force end of Season
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:09:28 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Nov12.005617.25631@watson.ibm.com> johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti/100000) writes:

>fred j mccall 575-3539 (mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com) wrote:
>: Check the statistics.  There is sufficient correlation to assume that
>: a much larger percentage of those who fail high school will become
>: criminals than of those who don't fail high school.

>If you have such statistics, please present them.

You assert that that there is no such correlation and that no pass / no
play was imposed arbitrarily because there was no relationship to not
letting them play sports and having them do better in school.  If you
have any supporting statistics, please present them.

You see, that bit cuts both ways.  You have asserted (apparently) that
the proportion of high school graduates among the jail populations is
the same as that among the general populace.  Do I REALLY need to dig
up a source for that?  Hell, check practically ANY report on crime.

>: Pardon me, but I'm not a socialist.  Do you deny being a libertarian?

>I'm not a memeber of the Libertarian party.  You seem to use Libertarian
>and libertarian interchangeably, so in order to answer this question, I 
>have to know what you mean by "libertarian".

How things seem to you are not my responsibility, since I do not use
the terms that way.  There is also a Socialist Party; is that what you
are referring to when you use the world 'socialist'?

>: >I believe JFH has already answered this question :-)
>: 
>: Ok, who pays the M.E.?

>Why do you need an M.E.?  The guy died of a gunshot wound.  You don't need an
>M.E. to figure that out.

Gee, John, you ALWAYS have an M.E. and an inquest in any case of death
inflicted by the actions of another human being.  Even Mr. Haugh said
to call one.  Is it your position that we should simply tip the body
into the closest dumpster?  This 'world' you seem to be espousing
starts to sound more and more 'interesting' (in the sense of the
ancient Chinese curse) -- it's starting to sound a lot like Beirut
during the height of the civil wars there.

>: >I can't think of anything a professional athlete does that requires anything
>: >that is taught in high school.
>:
>: But a lot of dealing with his job DOES.

>Such as?

Gee, little details like reading and numbers are useful.  Basic
accounting, so he can balance his checkbook (all those big numbers,
you know).  English so he doesn't sound like a Neanderthal doing all
those endorsements.  Study skills so that he can learn the playbook,
which is somewhat more complicated than that of the typical high
school team.  How many do you want?

>: Besides, the statement was
>: about 'effective morons'.  If they were morons, they couldn't have
>: gotten to where they were (becuase most of them are college graduates)

>But do they need to be, or have they basically wasted a lot of time to play
>your little education games?

I love the way it has suddenly become personalized as 'my' education
system.  John, if it was mine, I'd fix it.  What do you propose these
guys do when they're done with their half dozen or dozen years in the
pros? 

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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