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From: akerson@deimos.srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp)
Subject: MS Windows market share, OS/2
Organization: ARINC Research, Corp.
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 17:58:09 GMT




bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:

>> Windows (which Microsoft claims is an operating system - I disagree) 
>> claims a rate of 1,000,000 copies a month.

Some (I suspect large) percentage of that is 'sold' on hardware shipped
from big vendors. Like every darned one we buy from Northgate. What a waste
of manpower. And a waste of paper to ship all those Windows manuals.
Out come the N1/N2 disks, away goes MS/Windows, on goes SCO. Bleck!!@!

Flame proof suit on, check!
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From: scott@talguytalguy.cxo.dec.com (Scott Johnson)
Subject: Info wanted about WordPerfect
Reply-To: scott@talguytalguy.cxo.dec.com (Scott Johnson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs, Co
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:44:46 GMT


Hi,

I have a friend who is trying to get a job at WordPerfect.  I don't know why,
however, he would like to know if any folks out on the net know anything in
regards to the following questions.

1.  Salaries.  Are they competitive?  

2.  Size of the company.  How many people work at WordPerfect?  Do the
    managers manage people and projects or do they spend all their time playing
    politics?

3.  What is life like in Orem, Utah?  What about the cost of living like?  
    What are the schools like?

4.  What is the work environment like?  

5.  Are they a market driven company or do they depend on there reputation to 
    sell what they make?

Thanks for any and all replies.

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   Scott Johnson
   Digital Equipment Corporation
   Colorado Springs, Co

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger)
Subject: Info on Dale Carnegie
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 19:11:24 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.


Has anyone ever taken any of the Dale Carnegie courses?  Did
you find them worthwhile?

Please e-mail and I'll summarize.
-- 
Judy Bettinger (judy@evolving.com)            < |/
Evolving Systems, Inc.                         :o<)
Denver, Colorado                              < |\
From: Carl.Stone@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Carl Stone)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: RESTAURANT MANAGERS
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:01:11 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/20 - Mercury Opus NEC360, St Petersburg FL

Restaurant Managers Wanted

A major national chain is in search of restaurant managers at all
levels to fill spots created by expansion. This company is
currently growing at the rate of 25% per year and offers
outstanding promotional opportunities.

The people they are looking for should have 1 or more year(s)
current experience with a restaurant chain and possess a strong
desire for personal advancement.

Starting base salaries range from $28,000 for managers and
$45,000 for general managers. With bonus, general managers can
earn $64,000 the first year.

The successful applicant will undergo 6 to 12 weeks of training
at corporate headquarters, followed by paid relocation somewhere
in the Southeast.

This company also offers an outstanding benefits package
including 401(k), full medical coverage and paid relocation.

If you feel that you qualify for one of the above positions,
please mail or fax your resume to:

R.C. Stone - Recruiter
Post Office Box 1047
Largo, Florida 34649-1047

Fax: (813) 392-4938

 * 1st 1.01* #303 * 

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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:15:07 GMT

In article <10397@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk>
jdaly@cs.strath.ac.uk (John W Daly CS89) writes:
 
>Hope I`m not restarting an original arguement - I haven`t read the
>articles here for a while - but do Americans receive paid holidays to the
>same extent the British do?  We receive about, on average I think, 25 -
>30 paid hlidays which can be taken throughout the year.  This doesn`t include
>Chrimbas time and Easter.  I was informed that Americans do not receive
>many payed holidays at all, and was wondering if this was true.
>
 
Most US companies grant two weeks per year vacation, not to be used until
after the first year.  Holidays are usually a separate issue.  Holiday
time usually increases every five years.  In my current job, everyone
starts @ six weeks per year + holidays, but that's not the rule for
most businesses.
From: kf7600@shamu.ca.boeing.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:01:09 GMT
Organization: Central Storage Facility

In article <jon.713986484@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
> olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson) writes:
>	.
>	.
>	.
>>              FCC - Which try to control things like CB radios (yea, old issue,
>>                    but a prime example).
> 
>    There are only so many frequencies available on the air waves, and if
> there's competition for some of them the winner ought to be whoever has
> a transmitter big enough to blot out everyone else's.  Dammit, that's
> the American Way!
>	.
>	.
>	.

I don't know about the other stuff, but I remember discussing with someone
the possibility of treating the electromagnetic spectrum as private property -
people would sign contracts with each other buying frequencies, time slots,
geographical coverage (dicated by power & location?) and the government's
role would be relegated to enforcing the contracts.

The person I was talking to was of the opinion that one of the main reasons
Congress decided to go the FCC licensing route instead of private property
was to give the government a degree of control over the content being put
out on the air waves.

Kim Flowers
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: Great Good CEOs...NOT ( was: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:06:00 GMT

In article <168569A47.IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>, IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil) writes...
>While having never lived in Chicago, I follow Chicago news fervently,
>simply because it's more interesting than Indianapolis and has a much
>better newspaper.  The annual problem of teacher salaries has been
>causing problems again and is a prime example of American executive
>logic:

	Currently living in Chicago, with children going to Chicago schools,
	I have even more interest in the subject, so may I make a minor
	correction to the above:

	"and is a prime example of American politicians' logic"

>The teachers were promised (in writing/contract) a 6% raise this year.

	In a similar vein, "when was the last time you believed a politician?"

	Was it Casey Stengal who said "It's de-ja-view all over again."?
	My dad was a Chicago school teacher many years. During the late
	30's he didn't just not get a raise, he got paid in IOU's. Some
	storekeepers would give him 50 cents on the dollar. He got by by
	working as a musician part time.

	The Bored of Education is so poorly run that I noticed an emergency
	notice by the fire alarms stating - "In event of emergency please tune
	to the school board radio station WBEZ for more information." - WBEZ was
	spun off as a separate public radio station abou 5 YEARS AGO.

	IMHO the main thing wrong with the system is the bloated bureacracy on
	west 39th street. Chicago parochial schools are run by an administration
	10 to 20 percent the size, (per student.)

	At the same time, my property taxes are going up 12% a year, regular
	as clockwork, to pay for these yo-yo's in administration.

	Consider this before you think that any problem can be solved just by
	letting the GOVERNMENT run it.

   Frank R. Borger - Physicist    __       Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Michael Reese - Univ. of Chicago |___      Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455
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    Chicago, Illinois 60616           |_)  drifted. - Mae West
From: kalam@usc.edu (Kamran Alam)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Living Cost Index
Date: 2 Sep 1992 10:52:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Is there any information out there on  LIVING COST INDEX in the U.S.
cities? It would be helpful for some of us who are relocating and
negotiating over our salaries. Any info would be helpful.

Thanks
Kamran Alam
kalam@usc.edu
 











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From: sck@watson.ibm.com (Scott C. Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Info on IBM R&D labs wanted. Please help.
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 15:49:39 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research Center

In article <PLANIUS.92Sep3190135@ips104.desy.de>, planius@ips104.desy.de (P. Lanius) writes:
|> I'm a Ph.D student in high energy physics and want to learn about 
|> possibilities to work in R&D after finishing my thesis. I'ld like 
|> to go abroad for 2-3 yrs. but not in the high energy physics field.
|> The first thing that came up to my mind are the IBM labs at _York-
|> town Height_ and _Zurich_. Could some kind soul help me with the
|> following questions:
|> 
|> 1) What is the actual employment situation at these labs? Do they
|>    accept new employers at all?

Yes, they do. I was hired as a "Term" employee two years ago.
FYI: "Term" employee is a contract poistion with 1/2 benefits, but a 10 %
bonus per year. Better money, less benefits.

|> 2) Is it usual to work there for a few years? Are there any restrictions
|>    for foreigners?

If you have a Visa to enter the country, then you can work for IBM.

|> 3) What salaries do they pay?

Depending on skills and requirements. I consider them to be among the 
better offers I have gotten.

|> 4) What are the preferred research fields of physicists working there? 
|>    Is it only a field for solid state physicists?

The facility is engaged in many areas of research. Not just those relating to
the computer field.

|> 5) What is the work environment like? Is it more conservative than in
|>    smaller companies?

It is quite relaxed, most groups have flex-time, and there is no dress code. 
It is a good environment for me to work in and I am quite happy here. But, then 
again people will think I'm biased because I work for them. 
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Distributed High Performance Computing | or actions of my employer, and their 
IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Facility | actions don't reflect mine either.
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I had this dream the other night. I went to work one day, and nobody 
remembered who I was. So, I decided to take the day off. - 2nu
From: pettengi@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov (James B. Pettengill)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Headhunter Fees ?
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:54:46 GMT
Organization: LESC

In article <2AA39A7C.430E@deneva.sdd.trw.com>, shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) writes:
> 
> You don't say what it is that your wife used to do, but I'm assuming
> that it was something technical.
> 
My wife was a projct director at a 
Marketing Research firm in Atlanta for 2 years.
(I don't know if this qualifies as "technical")

She gave up trying to get an MR job over a year ago.
Seems Atlanta, New York, Chicago, Dallas, 
Los Angles, San Fransico, Miami, St. Louis 
are the hot MR cities. Definitely not Houston!
(Although I don't know why since it's the 4th largest city in USA)


  
> 
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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:51:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.122431.26577@hasler.ascom.ch>, kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh) writes:
# 
# In article <BtFFvE.A1x@jrd.dec.com>, doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
# |> In article <1992Aug21.162919.10306@Princeton.EDU>, egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges) writes:
# |> # In article <1992Aug21.122906.22118@eua.ericsson.se> euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall) writes:
# |> # >nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
# |> # >
# |> # >>  The Japanese average 2100 working hours a year versus 2050 in the US
# |> # >>  (source: OECD) 
# |> # 
# |> # This figure is highly bogus.
# |> 
# |> Yeah, the Japanese figure looks way too low.
# 
# Or maybe the american figure is too high? How are these figures calculated?

I don't know.  I would think that they use "official" numbers provided
by the various companies and average them out.

# E.g. Number of working days per year minus holidays minus statutory holidays??
# 
# I suppose you should add average overtime figures to this. In Switzerland, which
# has the highest figure for number of hours worked per week in Europe, I think
# the weekly figure was ~47 hours per week, average is 4-4.5 weeks holiday, and
# we have about 10 statutory days per year(unless you live in a catholic area,
# then you have more :-).
# 
# Therefore (52-4)*47 = 2256. Deduct two weeks(10 days) statutory holiday = 2162
# 
# This still seems too high! 
# 
# Any answers??

I just added up my time sheets from last year (1991) and came up
with 2612 hours worked.  But because of the way the time sheets are
calculated, this includes my paid days off.  Since I got 19 days off
last year [personal days off and sick days off] (19 * 8 = 152),
my total hours "worked" is 2612 - 152 = 2460.
But I usually don't write down the time that I come in on the weekends
for occaisonal backups, installations, etc..  So the number should be
a little higher.
That 19 days off does not include the MANY national holidays that Japan
has or the one week New Years vacation.  This was not in the original
2612 hours.
I don't consider myself to be one who works overtime too much.
--
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Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan          [from Japan: doi@dec-j.co.jp]
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Need Advice/CS major w/ bad grades
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:59:46 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas


	To the person who is "thinking of becoming a technical writter". . .

	Don't feel bad about your spelling; we have a guy running
	for Vice President of the U.S. who can't spell either.


	(Sorry, I just couldn't resist it.)


		Judy
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Subject: Re: Info wanted about WordPerfect
Reply-To: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 20:18:43 GMT

In article <$garyf.6.0@SASB.BYU.EDU>, $garyf@SASB.BYU.EDU (Gary B. Fitzgerald) writes:
> >3.  What is life like in Orem, Utah?  What about the cost of living 
> like?  >    What are the schools like?>
> 
> 	Life in Orem is quite nice, (rated No. 1 in the nation by Money 
> magazine last year (8th this year)).  The neighborhoods are clean and safe, 
> and it is quite comfortable.  The cost of living is dirt cheap, which makes 
> a lower salary pretty easy to live off of.  The schools are sort of crowded, 
> but are adequate.

(I'm in Salt Lake City, so take what I say with a grain of salt, no
pun intended...)

I would disagree with the statement "the cost of living is dirt
cheap". Although the price of housing is quite low in the area
(compared with the national avarage), other prices which contribute to
the cost of living are quite high. There is a property tax on
automobiles, for example. The sales tax is around 7 percent. And the
price of decent alcohol is quite outrageous. The price of food and the
average rent for an apartment were once low, but have been rising and
are now on par with the national average.
-- 

   -paul	pmartz@dsd.es.com
		Evans & Sutherland
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: mjducey@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Matthew "The Daddy" Ducey)
Subject: Starting a consulting Business.
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 09:48:32 EDT

As it looks hopeless that I'll find a job, I was thinking of starting
up my own Personal Computer Consulting Business.

How do you start a business?  

How do you get clients?

What form of advertising works best?

What do I have to do to become legal?

What is the meaning of life?

Thanks,
Matthew

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From: ted@sage0.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ted Ying)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Unix Certificate- Worth it or not?
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:15:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

crawford@church.mitre.org (Randy Crawford) writes:

> ccoprbm@prism.gatech.EDU (Bruce Mccullough) writes:
>> 
>> Since I am a staff member I'd be getting a discount so the total cost would
>> be about $2300. Is that to much? I'm sure that I could get alot of this just
>> sitting at the computer but the Certificate. I could always say that I know
>> this or that but with this I would have a piece of paper and some formal
>> training. The instructors for these classes are creditable. How bout your 
>> thoughts on this. By the way I'll be graduating in 2 quarters with a CIS 
>> degree (just FYI to help you to counsel me a little better).
>>

>I can't speak as one who has such a certificate, but I would say that the
>advantage of practical certificates like these is greatest for entry level
>folks who are seeking jobs which will expect immediate Unix sophistication.
>
	I don't happen to have certification either, but I do know a
	few friends who do have certification.  I do agree that entry-
	level type people will find this advantageous.  Additionally,
	people interested in doing contractual or consulting type work
	will find it useful to have certification.  It helps a potential
	employer determine if you have real skills or inflated skills
	before signing on a contractor or consultant.

>If you want employment in a Unix environment, and don't have great grades
>or professional experience which will wow the recruiters, then I think a
>certificate is a good thing.  If you can afford the $2300, I'd say go for it.
>(And I'd place higher priority on X Windows and system-level Unix programming 
>over shell programming or sys-admin studies.)
>
	Whoa.  This is purely subjective.  As a system and network
	administrator for a reasonably large network of computers, I'd
	disagree.  These days, it is *VERY* hard to find truly qualified
	SA's.  There are quite a few networks out there that have been
	screwed up by "part-time SAs" or people who "do SA on the side"
	There are many things that a good SA needs to know and if you
	are interested in this type of work, then that type of training
	and certification would be extemely useful.  Look at your own
	interests in computers and use that information to determine the
	coursework and direction of your training and certification.

	Additionally, many sites are just starting to realize that good
	SA's are hard to find and are paying high salaries and opening
	up senior positions for SA's to support their ever-growing
	networks.

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From: wmammel@hoss.unl.edu (Bill Mammel)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: How to quit after 2 weeks?
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:03:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln

In <1992Aug30.200257.13660@iitmax.iit.edu> chinkev@elof.iit.edu (Kevin A. Chin) writes:

>I have a problem (well not really to most people), about
>quiting after two weeks.

>My #3 choice for employment gave me an offer, I accepted.
>(After waiting ~ month for other responses from #1 and 2.)
>Then my #1 choice offered me a position, how should I
>handle this? I am somewhat hestitant to quit (guilty) after 
>they have spent these 2 weeks training me? I think I would
>like to change positions without burning too many bridges.

Actually, from my point of view, you have an ethics problem.  When you
accepted your #3 choice, they made a committment to you and vice versa.

After all, if you bought a computer for $2500 today, and 2 weeks later a
new model came out that was 25% less money and 75% faster, would you
then want to return the old one and get the new one?  Sure you would.
But at the time, you were getting the best deal you thought you could
get...and that's why you bought the $2500 slow computer.

You decided you were adequately compensated when you accepted #3's
offer.  You made a decision.  Stick with it.  Besides, how much company
loyalty do you think that #1 will think you have after you quit #3
to work for them?  Tell #1 "Thanks, but since I hadn't heard from you
for awhile, company #3 made a good offer and I accepted.  Perhaps in
3 or 4 years we'll be able to work something out."




--
Bill Mammel
Department of Chemical Engineering
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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