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From: nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.lang.bengali
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:23:40 GMT

godura@nori.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:

>In article <1993Jan2.153650.46042@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>
>>  Man (lady Ruchira), you are really good. This *is* exactly what I did when
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Ai beta, eta kintu barabri holo. Naam niye podpakami korbi na ,
>boledilam !! :-)
>Ruchir


Thik bolacho guru, amaro nam neyia podpakami thik posaiya na.Amar nam neyia
kao podpakami koracho to sala potoldanga pateya debo.Jokhon ai addaa newgroupta
chalo hoi ekto khobor diyo guru. Onak din thek na marei khabar gulo thik hozom
hochai na.

Nishit



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: raja@wam.umd.edu (C. K. Subramaniam)
Subject: IMPORTANT F1 VISA INFORMATION
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: F1
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:17:19 GMT


hi netters,
	I would like to discuss as well as alert people about the situation
I faced/am facing with respect to F-1 student status. My I-20 expired in
May 1992 and I did not bother about or franky I was not even aware of it. On
a recent visit to the International students office at University of Maryland,
the counselor informed me that I should immediately renew my I-20. I was also
told that since my I-20 had expired, I was out of F-1 student status and I 
should apply for a reinstatement (which I recently did ). Although
there should not be any problem (hopefully) in getting a reinstatement, there
may be an inordinate delay in getting a F-1 practical training visa if I choose
to get one in the near future. Apparently, a student should be "in-status" for
nine months prior to applying for a practical trainig visa. Since it usually
takes a couple of months to get the reinstatement, I am looking at Oct. 93, if
I want a PT visa.  This has jeopardized my plans to look for a job in summer
and to apply for a PT visa.  I am writing this to alert all Indian/Foreign
students to check the following:  

1) Check the date of expiry in yr I-20

2) If the I-20 has expired or if it is close to the expiration date go see
your international counsellor immediately. This is especially important for
people who are planning to graduate and have plans to go on PT visa.

3) If there is anyone out there who went through the same situation, please
do get in touch with me or post yr experience on the net.

4) Finally about the "nine month in-status period" I was told by a student in
another school that the INS looks for if you were a student in good standing
nine months prior to the PT visa application and does not really bother about
expiration/reinstatement of the I-20. I want to know if this is true. If  
people can talk to their international counselors and post the info. on the
net it will be very useful. Thanks.

cKS (raja@wam.umd.edu)
From: sramalin@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: FOR NEW STUDENTS COMING TO MEMPHIS
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:32:17 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University


                          Room Available
                         ----------------
Accomodataion for single male indian student is available for sharing.

Where     :  Memphis , Tennessee
what      :  Room for single male ( one vacancy only )
Location  :  15 minutes walk from Memphis State University
Cost      :  Shared and as low as $100 or even less !! (with utili.)
contact   :  Me !! E-mail : Sramalin.memstvx1.memst.edu
from      :  Anytime from now !!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: On Smartha Brahmins...
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian 
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:27:28 GMT

In my notes on AP brahmins, I referred with a generic name 
Smarthas (for a large percentage of AP Brahmins) for followers
of Sankara.

The word Smartha is generic and is not specific to Andhras.
Among that category come the Tamil Iyers, some of the Brahmins
from Karnataka (who follow the Sringeri mutt order), some
of the Maharastrian brahmins, some of the oriyan brahmins,
and bengali ones too. There may be others. 

A good account of Smarthas can be found in 

    "Encyclopedia of Religions and Ethics"

under the word Smartha. This is a very old series, but gives
a very decent account undestandable by an ordinary person.

...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mbhupati@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Murali K Bhupatiraju)
Subject: Re: Do we need a religion?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:33:17 GMT

Yo Religion 'Fan.'s!

The cover story in latest TIME mag. is on GOD and SCIENCE. ( which should  help
the "netters" in directing there intellects towards more intellectually 
challenging facets of religion insteadof  the more trivial and narrow-minded
discussions going on about Hinduism,Islam...etc.)

                                   Murali
                                   The Ohio-state
                                   Columbus.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sri@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (a.natarajan)
Subject: Re: SREE KHUSBAAMBAALAYA KUMBHABHISHEKAM on NEW YEAR DAY!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:07:20 GMT
Keywords: ALL ARE WELCOME!

I am sorry I am made a terrible mistake in spelling!
There was no need to pounce on me for such a minor error!
Thanks for the innumerable replies thanking me for sharing
this guhya manthram. 
I am ROMBA ROMBA moved!
Here is the correction:

In article <1992Dec22.225534.6674@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> sri@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (a.natarajan) writes:
>
>Dhyaanam: (Meditation):
>
>"graamE nagarE kalaakshEthrE  chalachithra gruhE thaTHaa |
>Saa dhEvee Sarva janaan Santhshayathi khusbaambikaa ||"
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>[I meditate on the Supreme Khusbu who makes all people happy,
>in villages, cities, in theaters, and in cinema halls.]


It should read:

SanthOshayathi
     ^
Respectfully 
Nataraja Deekshthar at ATTahaasa kaaryaalayam.
                       ^^^
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Hindus, Muslims flay govt decision to let SC decide
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:29:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill
Keywords: SC Decision Mosque Temple


apnews reports:
	   NEW DELHI, India (AP) _ The government drew fire from Hindus and
Muslims alike today over its decision to let the Supreme Court rule
on who should get the disputed holy site where Hindu militants tore
down a mosque.
	   Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao's Cabinet decided Sunday to
build a temple and a mosque near site in the northern town of
Ayodhya, and to let the high court decide which should be allocated
the holy ground.
	   ``We are shocked and surprised by the decision,'' said Syed
Shahabuddin, of the Babri Masjid Coordination Committee, an
umbrella organization of Muslim groups involved in the case.
	   Shahabuddin said the plan ``violates the prime minister's
commitment to rebuild the Babri Masjid'' mosque and said it
disregards some 70 legal cases over the issue pending in various
courts.
	   Hindu zealots tore down the Babri mosque on Dec. 6, setting off
nationwide Hindu-Muslim riots in which more than 1,200 people were
killed.
	   The Supreme Court will have to determine whether Mogul invaders
tore down a Hindu temple more than 400 years ago to build the Babri
mosque _ as Hindu zealots claim.
	   Many Hindus believe the spot is where their warrior-god Rama was
born.
	   The government decided to issue a federal ordinance to take over
an unspecified amount of land around the site and to establish
separate trusts to build the temple and the mosque.
	   The right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party, which had campaigned for
construction of the temple, said there was no need to refer the
dispute to the court. The Hindu nationalist party is India's main
opposition force.
	   Inscriptions at the site showed it was a Hindu shrine, said J.P.
Mathur, the party spokesman, and the government can make its own
decision based on existing evidence.
	   Fundamentalist Hindus have consistently maintained that the
legal opinion was irrelevant, and the issue was a matter of faith.
	   The Hindu party rode to power in four northern states on a wave
of Hindu revivalism. Hindus comprise about 82 percent of India's
875 million population. Muslims account for about 12 percent of the
people.
	   After the mosque's destruction, Rao dismissed all four state
governments and placed them under federal rule, and arrested the
two top leaders of Bharatiya Janata.
	   But his tough actions appeared to create a wave of sympathy for
the party, and failed to end the political crisis over his handling
of the affair.
	   Meanwhile, bowing to pressure from pilgrims, authorities in
Ayodhya agreed to allow prayers at a makeshift shrine that was
hastily constructed after the mosque was razed.
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Swami Vivekananda :: Aggressive Hinduism
Date: 24 Dec 1992 19:21:09 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

In article <1hd0d9INNolj@chnews.intel.com>, rkrithiv@hopi.intel.com (R. Krithivas) writes:
>From: Tattva Darsana
>By:   Sadhu Rangarajan
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Aggressive Hinduism
>
>His object as regarded India, said the Swami, in a private conversation
>had always been "to make Hinduism aggressive". The eternal faith must 
>become active and proselytising, capable of sending out special 
>missionaries, of making converts, of taking back into her folds those
>of her own children, who had been perverted from her, and of the conscious 
Now Virendra will not like that (-:
Arindam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: balaji@milli.cs.umn.edu (Balaji Srinivasan)
Subject: Re: The Quran and the Modern Science
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:39:52 GMT

In article <1ho88dINNkgd@aludra.usc.edu> fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>Salam writes:
>
>>>   (2) The word "data" appears in the above passage. What data is being
>>>       referred to here ?                                 ^^^^ 
>>    
          with so much philosophical discussion going on, are u sure it's 
          data being referred to and not 'daata' , meaning god ? 
          sorry to barge in the middle of some serious discussion. 

- Balaji.S. 
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From: balaji@milli.cs.umn.edu (Balaji Srinivasan)
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.bengal
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:29:02 GMT

In article <199212240126.AA05216@mp.cs.niu.edu> t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:
>
>when do we have our own alt.culture.bangla newsgroup? I think
>it is overdue.  While many of these newsgroups such as a.c.tamil
>are used for people-bashing, we could use a.c.b to talk about
>the poetry and culture of Bengali society, especially of the
>last century. Any takers?


 nice suggestion. better still, i would suggest soc.culture.bengal - i expect
 the response to be good.. as bengalis are not just confined to WB alone
 and Bangladeshis would also be interested in interested in such a newsgroup
 I suppose.  

>
>Bijoy

 Balaji.S.
 (a hard-core calcuttan)
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From: gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu (Srihari Gopal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Madhuri Dixit GIFS (part 2)
Keywords: Madhuri dixit GIFS (part 2)
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:51:01 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

Hello all:

As I promised last week, I have finished scanning in those images that I
said I was going to do. They are available by anonymous FTP from
nic.funet.fi:/pub/culture/indian/pics

Specifically the ones I have added are (tiff-->jpeg conversion courtesy of
Juhana Kouhia):
anu1.jpg	Anu Agrawal lying down on a carpet
anu2.jpg	Anu Agrawal sitting on a chair
anu3.jpg	Anu sitting down in her bathrobe
banupriya.jpg	headshot of Banupriya (tiny)
pooja1.jpg	Pooja Bhatt on the cover of 'Cineblitz'	
sridevi3.jpg	Sridevi's headshot from the cover of 'Touchstone'
sridevi4.jpg	Sridevi in traditional Bharatanatyam dance gear

I scanned all of the above images myself. I can assure they are of very
high quality and they are much better than the previous pix that I have
seen at that site.

If any of you out there have more pix to add to this growing archive, then
ftp to "nic.funet.fi" as user 'uploader' go to the directory
/pub/culture/incoming and upload your files via binary transfer. Make sure
you notify the archive owner: Juhana Kouhia (jk87377@cs.tut.fi).

Since there is an anonymous ftp site, I wont be posting any of these pix
to 'alt.binaries.pictures.misc' as I previously had promised. I have received
a lot of mail from people saying that they wouldn't be able to access those
groups.

Enjoy!
Srihari Gopal
gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hsingh@seas.gwu.edu (harmel singh)
Subject: Re: alt.culture.bombay
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 22:19:54 GMT



i second the idea. yeah wake up bombay gang ....

hari
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana)
Subject: Hindu Marriage Rituals
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:05:02 GMT

To Continue this thread on Vedic marriage rituals further:

When my eldest sister was married (long ago), the bride and bridegroom
wore Madhuparkhams. A madhuparkham is clothing dipped in
termeric water and dried. The clothing is a Dhothi for the Bridegroom
and a 9-yard saree for the bride. The clothing is invariably
made of pure white cotton.

So traditional is this for Vaisnavites settled in AP, that during
the marriage, my sister's mother-in-law's parents walked out
of the marriage ceremony. Ofcourse as you expect, they were
Tamils and apparently, the Tamil marriage ritual regards
Madhuparkham as Ashubham. Madhuparkam is a Telugu custom 
imbibed by the vaisnavites in AP. They consider that Termeric
as a symbol of happiness.

There are some rituals that go in the preparation of the
Madhuparkhams.

On the other hand, there are some communities who use pure white
clothing, and some who use pure Silk clothing. For example, AP
brahmins (namely followers of Sankara) follow a system of rituals 
that are at variance from the vaisnavites. Note that all Brahmins
in AP are vaidiika brahmins; I seriously doubt (i have not come across
one in my life) a nonvaidiika brahmin in AP. 
(Note that you have to leave aside those migrating recently in the
past 50 years or so.  )

...kt

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:42005 soc.culture.pakistan:18814
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: KNOCK KNOCK BOSEADIKA :-)))))))))))
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:53:08 GMT

an3947@anon.penet.fi writes:

>KNOCK KNOCK!
>KAUN HAI?
>GADHE KE AULADH.
>O DEEPAK BOSE, ANDAR AA JAO :-))))))))

	ABEY O ANONYMOUS BAAP KE PUTTAR ,

		THE JOKE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE THIS :


		PHATAAK -PHATAAK !

		KAUN HAI BE TU .

		GADHE KI AULAAD .

		MUSTAFA KA PUTTAR TO NAHIN HAI NA ??

		NAHIN .

		PHIR AA JAA ANDAR .

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia)
Subject: talk.religion.indian (Re: Soc.culture.religion.indian-subcontinent
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:07:26 GMT


The title change says it all. Either talk.religion.indian or talk.religion.
indian-suncontinent would be a better title. This should not be a .culture
group.


Alok
From: banerjee@aludra.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.bengal
Date: 24 Dec 1992 15:01:33 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <Dec.24.15.42.44.1992.28928@paul.rutgers.edu> varma@paul.rutgers.edu (not yet) writes:

>In fact I am of the view that SCI is suitable for such discussions. I
>am not Bengali but do follow Bangla (ek-to ek-to) and enjoy reading
>whatever little I understand. I look forward to seeing other aspects
>of Indian culture on the net. If a.c.b is created, I will be deprived.

I agree completely. Instead of creating our own little exclusionary
enclaves to discuss something as universal as literature, I suggest
that we post it to SCI so that other people can read, question and 
hopefully appreciate. 

To the best of my knowledge (and I have been wrong before :-)), no one
has posted anything on SCI in Bengali before. If they have, I have
definitely missed it. My point is, why dosen't somebody post an article
in Bengali on SCI and determine the response before we take this 
discussion about a new newsgroup any further.

Samit


-- 
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University of Southern California,	| If you take yourself too seriously, 
Internet  banerjee@aludra.usc.edu       | you will be only one who does.
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From: shubu@green.cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: For M___baaz Arindam Ghosh
Date: 4 Jan 93 05:31:42 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences


Shono mon boli tomay shob koro prem koro na
Prem je kathaler, aare lagle por-e chhare na.

:-)

(Kotha o sur: Rahul Deb Burman)

Luck!
-Shubu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mmmirash@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi)
Subject: Bashing one another!   :)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:16:31 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <w_32t+l@rpi.edu> vijays@rpi.edu writes:

[.....a lot of acrimonious vituperation in irksome capitals, deleted....]

>
>WE NON-BRAHMINS should really fight hard to GET BACK SOCIAL 
>JUSTICE in INDIA.
>Thanks
>
>S.VIJAYAKUMAR
>
>

I am sick of this Brahmin/non-Brahmin,
                   Hindu/Muslim,
                  Aryan/Dravidian,
                  state1/state2,
                  India/Pakistan
                                            bashing......



Grow up, you guys!  Shed all these stupid prejudices.

                                                        Peace,

                                                              Mandar.                                   
                    
                   
-- 
"Imagine there's no countries. It isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill or die 
 for, and no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace.
 You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope some
 day you'll join us, and the world will be as one." - John Lennon.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
From: f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA)
Subject: Soc.cul.religion.subcontinent
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 09:46:00 GMT

I agree that Indian name is sufficient. About others who said
angrily of changing name of INDIAN OCEAN, please keep out conflict
out of this group, You seem to be starting it before it. If this
is going to be the mood, I will be voting against it. I wanted
unity, not fight again. I wanted both side to talk in a manner that
is leading to unity. 

I gave that analogy already about B doing wrong because of A's
past bad action. In that case B is not to be blamed for it. 

For now please refrain from starting a flame war. Let us discuss the
good and bad point of it. 

Talk is not acceptable. We want a name which has the

combination of Social cultural and religious aspects of our
sub continent.. South ASEA is also acceptable. May be south ASEA
is better. Because when a new user tries to find groups of his
interest, he is likely to look fom ASEA. Not subcontinent. But
if the ward Indian is there (which is not representative of INDIA)
Then surely every one will find it easily. That is why I proposed
SCRIS, BUT SCRS is also acceptable. SCR south asea is also acceptable.

                        


-- 
With regards
 
SUPRATIC GUPTA
From: hari@bass.bu.edu (hariharane ramasamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: thought this would make sense
Date: 27 Dec 92 21:45:06 GMT
Organization: Boston University

Many of you are aware of what is happening in India. I am not 
sure what is right or wrong but commiting crimes in the name
of God does sound wrong to me. I grew up in India, I like
Indian Culture since (natural) I spent 23 years there. I came
here like many students for Graduate degree. Apart from learning
life, I came across these valuable lines of the President whose
words suit best with the current situation in India. 

_______________________________________________________________

	The President's Last, Shortest, and Best Speech

	On thursday of last week two ladies from Tennessee came 
before the President asking the release of their husbands held
as prisoners of war at Johnson's Island. They were put off till
friday, when they came again; and were again put off to saturday.
At each of the interviews one of the ladies urged that her
husband was a religious man. On saturday the President ordered
the release of the prisoners, and then said to this lady "You say
your husband is a religious man; tell him when you meet him, that
I say I am not much of a judge of religion, but that, in my
opinion, the religion that sets men to rebel and fight against
their government, because as they think, that government does 
not sufficiently help some men to eat their bread on the sweat of
other men's faces, is not the sort of religion upon which people
go to heaven!"

						A. Lincoln

Incidentally an another article where President uses God's words
to seek unification. Farewell speech given by Lincon at Springfield
Illinois

My dear friends, no one, not in my situation can appreciate the
feeling of my sadness at this parting. To this place and to the
kindness of these people I owe everything. Here I have lived over
a quarter of century and passed from a young man to an old man.
Here my children have been born and one is buried. I now leave,
not knowing when or whether ever I may return with a task before
me greater that that rested on Washington. Without the assistance
of the Diving Being whoever attended him, I cannot succeed. With
His assistance, I cannot fail. Trusting in Him who can go with me,
and remain with you, and be everywhere for good, let us confidently
hope that all will yet be well. To His care commending you and so
I hope in your prayers you will commend me, I bid you an affectionate
farewell.

					A. Lincoln

Hope I made sense.

A person that uses truth for destruction is the most evil person 
one would want to meet in history. History has lot of examples. Any
person who uses his force to get people will get himself to the
same situation.

hari

that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in 
vain