HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mpulver@research.canon.oz.au (Mark Pulver)
Subject: Re: bike shorts
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:14:14 GMT


I prefer the central seam over shorts with two seams that intersect
your "under carriage" and legs.  Thats the area I have most of my problems,
and these seams make it worst.

I find padding thickness is not that important, and if its to thick you
might find then uncomfortable when not on the bike.

The more panels the shorts have usually means a better fit.
If the legs are contoured they usually have a much better fit.

Synthetic chamois are easier to care for, actually real chamois are every
hard to find.

I usually pay $40-$75.

Make sure you have more than pair.

Most important,  DO NOT wear underwear with bike shorts.

I can't speak from experience but I have seen bike shorts for the
female.
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Newsgroups: aus.archives,aus.computers,aus.news
From: act@softserver.canberra.edu.au (Andrew Turner)
Subject: VIRUS ALERT 
Organization: University of Canberra
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 21:29:42 GMT

Please be warned that the file ypcbr101.zip recently uploaded and NOW present
on archie in oak/pktdrvr IS infected with Dark Avenger(Black Avenger, 1800).
This virus when activated formats the hard disk.  The virus is in the exe
file in the zip file.

ftp@archie.au has been advised.

Please see the following:

From valert-l@lehigh.edu Tue Jan 12 04:22:38 1993
From: Kenneth R. van Wyk <krvw@cert.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <valert-l@lehigh.edu>
Subject: (Forwarded) VIRUS found in file ypcbr101.zip on simtel archive (PC)
Status: R

The attached note was posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives.  FYI,
the offending file has been removed from Simtel20.  However, if you
downloaded it while it was on-line, please read this note carefully
and take appropriate actions.

Cheers,

Ken

Kenneth R. van Wyk
Moderator VIRUS-L/comp.virus
Technical Coordinator, Computer Emergency Response Team
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
krvw@CERT.ORG       (work)
ken@THANG.PGH.PA.US (home)
(412) 268-7090  (CERT 24 hour hotline)

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From: johnm@bowen.cc.utas.edu.au (John Miezitis)
Subject: #### VIRUS found in file ypcbr101.zip on simtel archive.
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:32:42 GMT

The zip archive ypcbr101.zip was downloaded from Simtel-20 and the oak
mirror on archie.au and both files were found to contain the 1800
variant of Dark Avenger in the executable yapcbr.exe. The file was
unzipped and then tested using F-PROT206a which was able to remove the
virus.

Adminstrators at both these sites will be informed as will the author
of the program.

- --
_______________________________________________________________________________
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email: John.Miezitis@cc.utas.edu.au | Belgium man Belgium!!! - Z. Beeblebrox
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From: bcoppinger@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.education
Date: 13 Jan 93 14:02 EST
Subject: Re: The Global Classroom
Nf-ID: #R:peg:506100055:peg:506100056:000:2691
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!bcoppinger    Jan 13 14:02:00 1993


FOLLOWING IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROJECT OUTLINES THAT STUDENTS
DEVELOP.
STATUS: In Progress 9/8/92

1)  Project Title:  Global U.V. Watch

2)  Brief Description of Project:  The Global U.V. Watch programme
is designed to allow students throughout the world to monitor
U.V.B light levels and study the impact of increased UV Radiation.
Students will either; collect data from their own countries and
transmit it to Broadford Secondary College in Broadford Australia
or they can request the data collected in Australia to monitor
levels if local sources are unavailable. Broadford students will
edit a monthly newsletter containing graphs of the U.V.B. readings
as well as stories and articles about the ozone layer and related
topics. This will be sent back to participating schools to use in
the classes and environmental programmes.

Any school can feel free to contribute articles,  UV readings,
drawings or related material. It is hoped that with this UV
project students will start local awareness campaigns to raise the
level of education and understanding of the problems both at
school and in the wider community.

We are currently supplied with UV readings from the Australian
Radiation Laboratory but hope there is a chance of acquiring a
hand held meter later in 1992/early 1993

3)  Grade level(s) of Project: 7-12 Optional

4)  Participating Schools:  Broadford Secondary College,
Broadford, Australia. Coldspring Harbor NY, Gates Secondary School
Wa. Mansfield Secondary College The Australian Conservation
Foundation and Anti Cancer Council of Victoria.

5) We hope to have this as a continuos project, publishing four
newsletters every year. At each Solstice and Equinox.

6) We expect to help heal the planet and provide a role model for
Governments and Environmental Organisations to follow.

7)  This project will make a contribution to the health of the
Planet by raising the level of awareness of all involved about the
dangers of Global Ozone depletion and UVB Radiation. It will
supply practical and concrete advice for individuals wishing to
help redress the problems we are facing.

8) This project will involve individual students and whole
classes.

9) Two to three other sites would make this project worthwhile. We
currently have five sites involved.

10)  Project Team Facilitator:  Bill Coppinger  peg:bcoppinger
     Student Facilitator        Ben McMahon     peg:broadfordsc

	  User name: bcoppinger@peg.apc.org
		     broadfordsc@peg.apc.org

12)  Additional Comments: This project hopes to coordinate efforts
with the Global Laboratory Project run by the Technical Education
Research Center in Cambridge, Massachusetts, U.S.A. (Contact
Gaby_King@terc.edu.)
From: atkinson@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Roger Atkinson)
Newsgroups: aus.education
Subject: Book "Quality in Distance Education"
Followup-To: aus.education
Date: 13 Jan 1993 04:19:25 GMT
Organization: Murdoch University External Studies
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: esumac15.csu.murdoch.edu.au

"Quality in distance education: ASPESA Forum 91" contains 62 papers
presented at the Tenth Biennial Forum of the Australian and South Pacific
External Studies Association, held at the Mitchell Campus of Charles Sturt
University, Bathurst, NSW, 15-19 July, 1991. Original papers have been
scanned and fully edited for publication in this 530 page book in B5
format.

Is there a definitive model of quality?  How are quality improvements
achieved?  Providers and practitioners of distance education and open
learning will find in this book an extensive debate on quality issues,
reports on a wide variety of practices and techniques pertaining to quality
improvement, and an insight into future directions in the evolution of
distance education.

Atkinson, Roger, McBeath, Clare and Meacham, David (eds) (1991).  
Quality in distance education: ASPESA Forum 91.  Bathurst, NSW: 
Australian and South Pacific External Studies Association.
Paperback B5. pp. viii+522. ISBN 0 646 08857 2

Price in A$ including packing and postage:
    Australia $35
    Other countries surface mail $45
    Other countries economy air mail $55
For overseas orders, please specify surface or economy air despatch.  To
obtain "Quality in Distance Education", a purchase order, or your order
with enclosed payment to ASPESA may be sent to:

John Hardie, ASPESA Publications Officer
Open Training and Education Network
199 Regent Street
Redfern NSW 2016
Australia
Tel 02 318 4564  Fax 02 318 4568

or email orders quoting an institutional purchase order may be sent to
    atkinson@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au

All payments, whether by cheque with your order or by invoice from ASPESA,
must be in Australian dollars. ASPESA's mailing address is:
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Ms Chris Game, ASPESA Treasurer and Memberships Officer, at that address.
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Murdoch University, Murdoch, Western Australia 6150.
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From: waohe@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (WA Office of Higher Education)
Newsgroups: aus.education
Subject: Quality of universites in Australia
Date: 7 Jan 1993 11:56:46 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
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[ Article crossposted from misc.education ]
[ Author was WA Office of Higher Education ]
[ Posted on 7 Jan 1993 11:52:52 +0800 ]

Geir Torheim (geirt@Lise.Unit.NO) wrote:
: Hello,
: 
: I am thinking of getting a Master of Science in software engineering.
: 
: Of several reasons, I want to go to Australia and study.
: 
: It has been very difficult to find info on this here in Norway. And the info I
: found, did not make me happy:
: 
: The university of Sidney had 22 000 students and 1000 in the teaching staff,
: while e.g. MIT had 10 000 students and 2000 in the teaching staff.
: (1000 professors). NTH in Norway had 6200 students and 750 professors,
: dunno how many in teaching staff. (Year of 91-92)
: 
: Anybody who can comment on the quality of Australian universities compared
: to European and American universities? 
: Which Australian universities would you recommend for an MsC in software 
: engineering?
: 
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: -Geir
: 
: PS
:   If I posted to the wrong newsgroup, please give me a pointer to the
:   correct one(s)!
: 
: -- 
: Geir Torheim                             email: geirt@lise.unit.no

Just to possibly set the record straight, the University of Sydney is 
one of Australia's prestigious universities.  It is likely that Geir's
figures, if correct, refer to a different definition of _professor_.

In Australian universities, the title _professor_ is usually reserved
for administrative and academic heads of departments.  Most teaching
staff are referred to as _lecturers_.

The total enrolment at U of S in 1991 was 29 967 of which 22 303 were
full-time.

I will cross-post this to aus.education which may elicit more information
from Sydney (2000 miles to the east!)

Jeff Oliver
Western Australian Office of Higher Education
Perth, Western Australia.
From: u8927111@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au (Gunther Feuereisen)
Newsgroups: aus.education
Subject: test..please ignore
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:27:05 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

testing..

Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: brad@hawk.adied.oz.au (Bradley Edelman)
Subject: Re: Greg Egan (was: Political Science Fiction)
Organization: Australian Defence Industries
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:38:58 GMT

steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor) writes:

>agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (p-m agapow) writes:

>>PS. a quick recommendation - "Quarantine" by Greg Egan - it's got an
>>absolute minderf*cker of a plot.

>You betcha. I praised this on the net a while ago, saying it was a pleasant
>Cyberpunk/Private Eye novel. However, I was only halfway through the book,
>and hadn't yet got to the quantum mechanical mindfuck which takes up the
>second half of the book. Greg Egan is one weird boy.

Is this Greg Egan Australian, by any chance?

Brad. [brad@hawk.adied.oz.au]
Australian Defence Industries Ltd,
Enterprise Unit 3, Technology Park,
Bentley, WA 6102, Australia.
Tel: (09) 333 8888.  Fax: (09) 333 8889.
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: Does a chain of command exist any more (STNG)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:51:59 GMT

s924683@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU ( Chandi ) writes:

>And what were the romulans doing on the planet anyway??

That's what annoyed me most about an otherwise good (albeit
utterly implausable) episode.  Oh, and the rehash of the ol'
Hell in the Pacific (?) / Enemy Mine plot was a bit dull
and predictable.  Actually, the stranded-enemies-make-friends
plot is probably a lot older than either of those movies,
but there you go.

When is Riker going to (a) lose some weight (b) admit he's
in love with his captain?

I always enjoy episodes with Romulans in it though, I thought
The Neutral Zone was first-class, and this one was also good.
However, the show always seems to suffer from glaring plot
holes and silly plot devices.

For instance: if you beamed down to a stormy planet with a 
14 minute transporter window, and non-functional communicators,
would you seperate?  Thought so.

Quote of the evening:  Worf (again) - "Then he will die."

Fraser.
From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Political Science Fiction
Date: 9 Jan 1993 15:19:03 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
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dyfl@kbs.citri.edu.au (Daniel Lam) writes:

>I once heard a talk where the speaker said that science fiction can
>be roughly classified politically as either libertarian (e.g. Robert
>Heinlein, Vernor Vinge) or socialist (e.g. H.G. Wells).

Strange, I've never really associated HG Wells with socialism in his SF
- it's been a while since I read _Tono_Bungay_ (sp?) which seemed to
advocate a corporatist future (ala some cyberpunk, but set amongst the
green hills of England :-)

For what appears on the surface to be a very socialist-leaning SF, Iain
M. Banks' -Culture- series of space-opera is a good example.  IMHO,
anything that annoys hell out of the libertarians should be compulsory
reading.  An American author of 'light' fiction, Lois McMaster Bujold
consistently shows her more advanced societies as being predominantly
socialist-leaning, although her background makes it difficult for her to
be *too* radical ;-)

But seriously, most thoughtful fiction that deals with societies tends
to make some sort of political stand, doesn't it?  I mean, it is very
difficult to advocate the -status-quo- when you are identifying problems
with it ... and it's one of the things that a good subset of sf (and
much other fiction) *are* concerned about.  And if your model of
political belief is such that the two extremes you see are described as
'libertarian' or 'socialist' (and what socialist?  there are trots,
marxists, maoists, anarcho-syndicalists, all of whom advocate very
different styles of society), then you can classify nearly everything in
those two camps.

>What do the SF fans have to say about this?  Can you offer a more
>elaborate classification?  What do you think the impact of science
>fiction has been on political debate?

Haha.  Most fans wear pocket-protectors and coke-bottle-glasses, and
have little to do with public policy ;-)  How can a ghettoised genre of
fiction make a big impact? Look at massmarket SF - Star Wars (advocating
liberty in a traditional, aristocrat-dominated state) and its kin, most
of which seem to be myths and fairytales wrapped up in special effects,
which don't seem to advocate very much at all.

Peter

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From: bongo@DIALix.oz.au (John Bongiovanni)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Political Science Fiction
Date: 9 Jan 1993 14:20:53 +0800
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
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Certainly the politics found in science fiction isn't going to be
conservative or reactionary. Almost by definition, science fiction
has to have a positive, forward-looking outlook. When it doesn't,
it's usually a "dystopia" or "cautionary tale", like "Brave New World".
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: cameron@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Cameron Simpson)
Subject: Re: Books wot I have read
Reply-To: cameron@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Cameron Simpson)
Organization: CS&E Computing Facility, Uni Of NSW, Oz
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:32:45 GMT

| bill@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Logan Lee) writes:
| >>_The Forever War_, Joe Haldeman
| >Certainly a classic.

andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman) writes:
| Sure is.
| >whilst protecting (human) life, liberty and the American Way.
| >_The  Forever War_ depict a dehumanising pointless struggle for
| pointless aims, much like the movie _Dark Star_, another anti-Vietnam SF work.
| 
| Along similar lines is a book I love called "We All Died At Breakaway
| Station". Can't recall the author [...]

Meredith. I'm reading it at the moment. Depressing, but good.
	- Cameron Simpson
	  cameron@cse.unsw.edu.au, DoD 0743
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applied to a program P aimed at transforming it into the target program Q.
From: zebee@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Political Science Fiction
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:54:07 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au

mwp@iconix.oz.au (Michael Paddon) writes:


>SF has had a long history of being involved with political debate. To name
>a few early works by way of example:

>_The Divine Comedy_, Dante
>_Utopia_, Thomas More
>_Brave New World_, Aldous Huxley
>_1984_, George Orwell

Not sure about Dante, as he is generally only known for the Comedy, but
the others were authors/philosophers who used SF to make a point.

More was a famous statesman and author.  Huxley was a brilliant essayist,
journalist and man of letters from an equally brilliant family.

Orwell was another journo and essayist.

Do you suppose that any SF book without such credentials will ever be as
influential as 1984 and Brave New World?

And I'm not even sure how influential they are either.  1984 has made it
into the language and culture (Big Brother plus the whole concept of
1984), but BNW is hardly read or discussed now, and I don;t think any of
its concepts are in the mass consciousness.

And in an era where books and literature are losing their "clout", will
"any" book ever be that influential?  Or will only TV shows (Star Trek
for example) or movies (Star Wars and the Force) have an impact?
  

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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: bill@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Logan Lee)
Subject: Re: Books wot I have read
Keywords: femto reviews, bias.
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:22:04 GMT

In article <1iam4qINNqq@ephor.tusc.oz.au> jon@ephor.tusc.oz.au (Jon Eaves) writes:
>_The Forever War_, Joe Haldeman
>One of the classics, so I am told.  I enjoyed the story.  Story revolves
>around two main characters, William Mandella, a space-grunt and his
>lover, Marygay Potter and how the side effects of relativistic travel are
>dealt (or not dealt with).  What happens when you leave for a "real-time"
>journey of 20 years that is only 3 weeks to you ?
>
>Calling home on a Sunday on the Sid and Nancy Scale.

Certainly a classic.  It's been a long time I have read it, but I have read
it about three times.  Certainly should be viewed relative to the political
situation and other fiction available at the time.  From memory, it would
seem as _The Forever War_ was the anti-war antidote to Heinlein's _Starship
Troopers_.  _Starship Troopers_ has its gung-ho marines exterminate aliens
whilst protecting (human) life, liberty and the American Way.  _The  Forever
War_ depict a dehumanising pointless struggle for pointless aims, much like
the movie _Dark Star_, another anti-Vietnam SF work.

I didn't bother to stay up to watch _1984_ on TV last night, as it didn't
have that much appeal for me (I've seen it before, and read the book).
Mind you, if it had been _Brazil_, wild horses would not have dragged me
away.  It (_1984_) loses some of its impact without the background of the
ending of the Second World War and the subsequent post war recession.
Much of the double-speak has come true in our lifetimes (Iraq is our
enemy and always has been our enemy, the Soviet Union is our friend).
Perhaps there has been this double-speak, but I see other aspects of
_1984_ coming true, like the increasing imposition of Government in our
private lives, "To save us from ourselves".  Does Keating believe that
parents don't have the ability to select the type of TV programs that
their children watch? Is 9:30pm sufficiently late to start movies?

Off my soapbox now,
Bill Lee
From: s924683@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU ( Chandi )
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Does a chain of command exist any more (STNG)
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:15:35 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

On the ST episode on the 8th... it was made obvious that Picard did
not want to inform his superious of a posible war... or even a call
for re-inforcements.  

Does a Chain of command Star fleet wise, exist any more.. Or can a Captian
like Picard use his descreation in any situation...

And what were the romulans doing on the planet anyway??
-chandi
From: Geoff.C..Marshall@f159.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Geoff C. Marshall)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Books wot I have read
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:12:00

 bi> ....... it would seem as _The Forever War_ was the anti-war antidote to
 bi> Heinlein's _Starship Troopers_.  _Starship Troopers_ has its gung-ho
 bi> marines exterminate aliens whilst protecting (human) life, liberty and
 bi> the American Way.  _The  Forever War_ depict a dehumanising pointless
 bi> struggle for pointless aims, much like the movie _Dark Star_, another
 bi> anti-Vietnam SF work. 

I think you missed the point in both books.  In "The Forever War" the war
was necessary, because of a total failure of understanding between two races
(ever tried to argue for the separation of Church and State with a Sheite
Muslim ?), while in "Starship Troopers" there was no glorification of war
per se, just the viewpoint that if you support a given "state" or "nation",
and want the right to make decisions about its direction (i.e. vote) then
you should be prepared to act on its behalf.  In my personal opinion both
those who went to Vietnam and those who actively opposed it (such as Simon
Townshend) were heroes.  Both put their liberty (if not their lives) on the
line for their beliefs.

In "The Forever War", Mandella and Potter were caught up in something they
did not believe in, and could not escape it - but they did not try to fight
it.  In "Starship Troopers" the hero joined a "peace time" army ONLY for the
sake of personal advantage, but learnt otherwise.

 Count.


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