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From: sdejour@mksol.dseg.ti.com (stewart l dejournett)
Subject: Re: Has anyone used foam for roadbed?
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:09:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.110847.46774@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 1k1mgm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Christopher Gunn) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.155252.3355@mcs.anl.gov>, winans@xray.aps.anl.gov (John R. Winans) writes:
>> This stuff is pink and is NOT styrofoam.  I think it has a silver
>I've tried with mixed results to use various shapes of rasp-surfaced
>drill bits to rout out ditches and lowered terrain on bead board.
>This (a) makes a Gawd-awful mess and (b) leaves a surface that's
>not only fuzzy but (with bead board) too rough for N-scale dirt.
>Christopher Gunn	Molecular Graphics and Modeling Lab

One thing on cutting foam that I have found is a device that looks like a 
coping saw but instead of a saw blade it has a nicrome wire that is heated
by two D cells in the handle.  It cost $5 and is easy to use.  However, bee
forwarned use this in your garage since the fumes are really too strong to
do in the house.  I also got another device that plugs into the wall it was
around $10.  The cuts are nice.  These are availible in your local Arts &
Crafts stores - look around their styrofoam section.
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad

This is just a quick idea; I've never used this one on anything but scenery, 
but what about borrowing from the "bonded ballast" idea? If you were to thin
down some white glue, then spray? eye-drop? it onto the equipment, then
lightly sprinkle real dirt, let dry, maybe enough would adhere to fit your
purposes. Of course, this method might well be too crude, but I have to put
in the disclaimer that it's just off the top of my head!

 
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From: SDupa@xview.csuohio.edu (Scott Hewis)
Subject: Need Suggestions for Glueing Styrene to Wood
Organization: Cleveland State University - Telecomm 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:49:53 GMT

Noticed I forgot in my first posting to include the very important word
*NEED* in my header. Sorry about that.

I'm installing a bridge on my layout and am having some difficulty glueing
the styrene bridge piers (back and bottom) to the wood base. Any and all
suggestions would be most welcome.

Many thanks in advance.

Scott Hewis
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From: car@access.digex.com (Mr. Blue)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: NMRA
Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:01:08 -0500
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
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Some NMRA related questions:

1. Where is the convention this year? Will it be in Valley Forge in
   August?

2. Are the turnout templates that come with Campbell turnout ties
   NMRA compliant?

3. Are there any members of the Middle Eastern Region and/or its 
   Dixie division reading this newsgroup?

Thanks,
Chris


From: booth@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (George Booth)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:24:14 GMT
Subject: Re: HO scale mud and dirt
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad

In rec.models.railroad, smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:

    Any thoughts on how to simulate 3-D clumps of mud and dirt in HO scale?

The old "zip texturing" method makes *excellent* dirt, clumps and all. 

Obtain some dry paint pigments at your favorite art store or find some
commercial zip texture kits at a train store.  It's a little expensive,
but goes a long way.  Get earth colors, of course. 

Mix the paint pigment into some dry plaster - Hydrocal works very nicely
for this.  Use the pigment sparingly; it's easy to add more but kind of 
hard to get it out.  Mix thoroughly. 

Paint some water on the area to be made dirty and sift the plaster mix
over it.  The plaster will absorb water and bond with the surface yet
will still maintain its fine texture.  Put a little in a spoon, hold
the spoon over the dirt area and tap the side of the spoon - little 
clumps will fall off the sppon.  Maybe spritz a little water over
the area and add some more.  Repeat until you like the looks. 

If you want to make a nice dirt road, mix up some "water putty" to
a heavy cream consistency and gently pour it over the road area.  It 
has enough surface tension to form a raised area, yet stays nice and
smooth and flat.  If you pre-wet the area, it will flow into smoother
edges.  Sift some of the plaster mix over it for color and texture. 
When it dries, lightly rub it with a Bright Boy to make smooth areas
where it was worn by tires. 

Sometimes the old ideas and techniques are worth trying...

--------
George Booth
From: Ray.Hobin@p777.f1.n3641.z1.fidonet.org (Ray Hobin)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Info on Airbrush-Compressor
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:39:16 GMT

Greetings Wesley!

Quoting _Wesley Moore_

WM> Also, I do not have any information regarding air compressors.  My
WM> constraints on an air compressor is that it be fairly compact and
WM> portable and that it not be very noisy (It will only be used for models).
WM> I am looking for a good (quality) compressor at a reasonable price.
WM> Any suggestions?

..as far as aircompressors, getting one with an airtank attached is preferable otherwise you'll be running it continually. I recommend whatever one you get has a bleed-off relief valve.

Regardless of what you buy get an oil/moisture filter/trap and a regulator.
Air pressure will vary from airbrush to airbrush; medium used; viscosity; and, temperature and humidty factors present when spraying.

<Ray>
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
From: horn@Niord.shsu.edu (James T. Horn)
Subject: Re: Tracks Ahead show schedule.
Organization: Sam Houston State University, Huntsville, Texas
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:44:02 GMT
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Distribution: ca
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In article <147780@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, nijhuis@isg.llnl.gov (Jan A. Nijhuis) writes:
>
>I keep seeing "show schedules" for Tracks Ahead, the second season listed in
>Model Railroader Magazine.  Does anyone know when KVIE (Channel 6), Sacramento
>will air the series? 
>--
>
How about the Houston Area. I have looked in the TV Guide and yet to see it
mentioned.


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From: ardie@UIUC (Ardie Mack)
Subject: Re: Lionel American Flyer BN CABOOSE 48706 WANTED!
Organization: Department of Plant Pathology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:35:39 GMT


>>
>    WRONG!  The bastards at LTI decided to make this one rare.  Although it 
>IS a recent release, they underproduced the geep and its caboose.  Many 
>dealers ordering these were either shorted on their order or shafted out 
>altogether!
>     Anyway, in a model train mag, get the phone number for Scenery 
>Unlimited and Leventon's.  If they don't happen to have these, they MIGHT 
>know of another dealer with one.  Expect to pay a blasted premium, though.
>
     AN UPDATE - I came across a couple of ads in the S-Gaugian.  2 people 
offer the BN geep and caboose for about $450.  Another offers the BN caboose 
for $75.  (I guess this would truly qualify as a crummy deal!)  Like I said, 
they were created to be a rare item.  (The Christmas boxcar from the same 
year is about $160.)  LTI caught a lot of abuse for this and has increased 
its production somewhat.
From: RSUMPERL@JAGUAR.ESS.HARRIS.COM (05991 SUMPERL RP)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Sears' special Lionel engine and car set for 92/93
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:58:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: mlb.1993Jan26.145829.7441
Organization: Harris Information Systems Division
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

So....I'd like to find out how many of you purchased the Lionel engine
and car set in the Sears toy catalog. After hearing on CNN yesterday that
Sears will be closing more stores and discontinuing their catalog...do
you net people feel this is a "investment set".


                                    Ray
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
From: sdejour@mksol.dseg.ti.com (stewart l dejournett)
Subject: Re: Tracks Ahead show schedule.
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:38:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.164402.3425@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> horn@Niord.shsu.edu writes:
>In article <147780@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, nijhuis@isg.llnl.gov (Jan A. Nijhuis) writes:
>>
>>I keep seeing "show schedules" for Tracks Ahead, the second season listed in
>How about the Houston Area. I have looked in the TV Guide and yet to see it
>mentioned.

I don't know about your two areas but Tracks ahead is FINALLY showing in DALLAS
this Friday at 3:30 PM.

From: spangler@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Bill Spangler)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:48:20 GMT
Subject: Re: G Scale Modules
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad

To: whamilto@geppetto.encore.com
Subject: Re: G Scale Modules
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad

> A week or so ago, someone posted a request for specifications of G Scale
> Modules.  I would be happy to supply the requested information, but I lost the
> persons email address.  If that person, or any other, would either repost
> or send email directly to me, I will be happy to reply.

That was me (spangler@hpcc01.corp.hp.com); I tried mailing a reply, but it
doesn't seem to have gotten there, so I'm posting (sorry about the bandwidth).
Thank you for your offer to send the information; it might be of sufficiently
general interest to be worth posting here, also/instead.

Thanks,
Bill Spangler
From: js@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jon Sawyer)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:05:21 GMT
Subject: Seattle Model RR Attractions?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad


I'm going to be in the Seattle area from January 31 through February
4, and I was wondering what there might be to do in the evenings.  Any
clubs operating that week?  What hobby shops are worth a visit (I'm
primarily interested in HO scale, but I'm open to other suggestions)?
I'll be in the Bellevue area, and will only have evenings free, so
attractions in that immediate vicinity (and open in the evenings, of
course) would be best.
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad,rec.answers,news.answers
From: colemanr@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: Small scales/balances for N scale work?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 09:15:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

>>> Subject: Small scales/balances for N scale work?
>>>
>>> I'm starting to do some repowering on several of my N Scale locomotives.
>>> One on the items I want to work on is weight. Therefore I need to
>>> acquire some device to measure weight. Since N scale is small, I'm 
>
>Check Edmund Scientific.  They have a scale which does 0-500 grams in 10gm
>increments for $20.95.
>

I have had to deal with this problem for years in my research on fish.
Unfortunately, I have yet to find a really good solution.  I am always
looking for an electronic balance that can weigh to +/- .5 gram and is
cheap enough to take in the field where it might get smashed.  I haven't
found one yet.  Several years ago, Phillips made a nice one that could
do +/- 1 gram and ran on batteries and cost $50.  They made it for people
who REALLY wanted to know exactly how much they were eating.  Evidentally,
not enough people cared that much so they stopped making
it.  I found another type a few years ago in a "Nature/Science" store
for $80 that does 1.5 g.  It's made in Hong Kong and has no brand name.
The only words on the box are "Electronic Digital Scale" so that's not
much help.  The surprising thing is I checked it out against a very
expensive Sartorius lab balance and the thing is right on.  [Plus it
has a built in Alarm, Clock and Calculator :) ]  So, I guess the places
to try are Nature/Science stores and trendy health food stores
  The other option are Pesola spring balances (which are very much
like the kind of spring balance fishermen use to weigh their catch).
There are some that can weigh to the gram but they cost a fair bit
(at least $20-30) and they would be tough to use since you have to
suspend the object to be weighed.  For the money, I'd get an
electronic balance.  
-- Ron
From: djenkins@axion.bt.co.uk (David Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Imitation valve gears (was model engineering newsgroup)
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:04:24 GMT
Reply-To: djenkins@axion.bt.co.uk (David Jenkins)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <0fOo02zi33ar01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>,
czl30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan19.175602.26088@twg.com> nolan@twg.com writes:
|> >
|> 
|> This includes a lot of detail not normally found on models, like a
|> smoke-
|> box door which opens the proper way for this engine (two handles, one
|> that
|> screws to lock the other) to reveal a blast pipe, the lower part of
|> the
|> chimney and the boiler tubes at the back of the smokebox. We have
|> turned
|> a crank axle and are currently building piston and connecting rods,
|> and
|> Stevenson's vale motion (although we haven't worked out a way to
|> make
|> this reverse with the engine). Any thoughts, anybody?
|> 


This sounds like fun!  I can see a problem though, with trying to create
an imitation Stevenson's valve gear, because a lot of the critical bits
happened inside the frames, were I presume you've got your motor and
gearbox.  The eccentrics and rods take up most of the space between  the
frames.  Would Walschearts (sp?) valve gear be out of scale?  An
imitation of this could be rigged up without too much pain, as long as
you didn't want to reverse the gear.

Alternatively, you could use just one eccentric to a crank going through
the frames (similar to the old slip-eccentric gear) - it depends how
much is visible.

It's all right for you though - in my kind of loco (5" gauge) you have
to make *real* and *working* gear!

Good luck...

David Jenkins

"In times like these, it helps to recall that there have always been times
like these." - Paul Harvey.
From: wbrill@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Warren Brill)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:08:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Need Suggestions for Glueing Styrene to Wood
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad

In rec.models.railroad, SDupa@xview.csuohio.edu (Scott Hewis) writes:

> Noticed I forgot in my first posting to include the very important word
> *NEED* in my header. Sorry about that.
> 
> I'm installing a bridge on my layout and am having some difficulty glueing
> the styrene bridge piers (back and bottom) to the wood base. Any and all
> suggestions would be most welcome.
> 
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
> Scott Hewis
> --------------------------------------
> * Scott Hewis; Telecom Specialist    *
> * Cleveland State University         *
> * email c/o scott@asgard.csuohio.edu *
> --------------------------------------

I have used a "white mastic" type glue for this type of thing. I forget the
brand, but you can buy it at Color Tile. The thing I like about it, is that
1) you only need a TINY drop (like cyanoacrilate glue), and 2) it dries 
milky-clear. If you need a strong bond, I'd consider giving it a try. BTW,
I've never used Walthers' Goo, so I am in no way comparing this product to
Goo. [Of course, I realize that I'll be accused of not being a REAL modeller
since I've never used Goo, but that's another story... :-) :-)]
 
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From: wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris)
Subject: Florida model layouts?
Reply-To: wes@msc.edu
Organization: AHPCRC, Minnesota Supercomputer Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:40:36 GMT

I will be traveling to the Pompano Beach/Ft. Lauderdale area in Florida
soon.  Are there any model railroad layouts in this area that might be
worth seeing?

Thanks for any information.

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From: rjm@cs.brown.edu (Ralph Johnson Marshall)
Subject: There is a FAQ for this group
Followup-To: rec.models.railroad
Supersedes: <rec-models-rail-note_727337703@tahiti.cs.brown.edu>
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:15:20 GMT
Expires: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 06:15:04 GMT

This is a short note to new readers, letting them know that there is a
list of Frequently Asked Questions (with answers :-) posted to this
group every two weeks.  It attempts to answer basic questions such as
"how do I get more information about railroad X," and "what should I
buy if I'm just getting started."

If the FAQ posting has expired from your site, you have three options
for getting it before the next posting:

	- look in the group news.answers for a posting with the
	  subject "rec.models.railroad Fortnightly FAQ"  Most sites
	  keep postings for a longer time in this group.

	- anonymous FTP from pit-manager.mit.edu, in the directory 
	  /pub/usenet/rec.models.railroad.  If you don't know how to
	  get something by anonymous FTP ask your local administrator
	  or friendly guru.

	- sending mail to rjm@cs.brown.edu. NOTE: there is no
	  automation of the responses, so please do this only if you
	  can't wait and can't ftp.  I'll send you the file when I get
	  a chance, so it may not be immediately.

This note will be posted on the weeks when the FAQ itself isn't, in an
effort to make people aware of the list without broadcasting it too often.

Ralph Marshall
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From: sra@bistromath.mitre.org (Stan R. Ames)
Subject: Re: Any comments on Marklin digital or OnBoard?
Keywords: Marklin digital OnBoard
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:06:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.163156.6342@xsoft.xerox.com> keith@hv-3 writes:
>All -
>
>I am in the process of building a new HO layout, and am trying to decide which control system I want to install.  I have narrowed it down to either Marklin Digital, or OnBoard.
>
>Any comments on the two systems?   Is there any reason why I should wait a bit longer (is there anything even better coming on the horizon).
>
>Any comments are appreciated.
>
>--Keith-- 

Keith

Send me mail at sra@mitre.org and I can provide with much more 
information than you can take.

Basically the NMRA is generating a standard and standard systems will
have a substantial amount of features not present in some
of todays systems at less cost.  

Stan Ames
From: tannerha@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: WinLok 1.0 digital model railroad control program for windows
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:27:02 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

> 
> Be forewarned that the documentation for this program is "auf Deutsch" [in 
> German]. Since I don't have access to a Windows system I don't know if the 
> program's menus, etc. are also written in German.
> 
> It appears that this program is intended to control a Marklin or Arnold 
> command control system.

Yes, you are right: The placed version is written in german, and due to my
limited knowledge in english, I am not able to do the translation work.
But if there is someone, who would like to to do so, I will send him a copy
of the textfiles. (salary to negotiate).

The current version has only drivers to control Arnold digital and Marklin
digital. But the concept of WinLok 1.0 is open and a description of the driver
programming interface is available, so you can develop drivers for every system
hou might have.
Currently I am developping version 1.5, that will probably be shipped in may or
june of this year. Along with this version I will ship also drivers for the new
Lenz digital system and other systems, if ther is a remarkable need for it.
Just let me know, what your whises are and send me a copy of the communication
protocol between computer and digital interface.

Have fun with WinLok 1.0   H. R. Tanner

Xref: sparky rec.models.railroad:3087 rec.models.scale:955
From: balkum@zoe.as.utexas.edu (Stephen Balkum)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad,rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: model engineering newsgroup
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:08:23 GMT
Followup-To: rec.models.railroad
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

I've been watching this discussion for a while and decided I will make a post
for the live steam enthusiasts.

Here is the schedule for the first five meets of the Southwestern Live
Steamers (SWLS:  7-1/2" gauge, Texas and Oklahoma area):

Dates                    Location
------------             ----------------
March 26-28              Devine, TX (south of San Antonio)

April 23-25              Manor, TX (east of Austin)

May 28-31                Dublin, TX

June 25-27               Oklahoma City, OK

July 23-25               Manor, TX


Contact me for any questions regarding these meets, other SWLS events or
SWLS in general.


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