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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Presidential politics
Date: 13 Oct 1992 03:33:25 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL ("") says:

>:w/ the fact that Clinton lived abroad--he's the only presidential candidate
>:I can remember in a long time who has spent a significant amount of time
>:living alone in a foreign country.  I like this, because this experience
>
>I hardly think 4 years in Oxford counts as a deep insight into foreign
>countries.  He probably wouldn't notive the difference from Harvard,
>apart from the accents.  Even that's debatable.
>
Only you, Graham, would think that those two accents are close.:-)  The one
is quite pleasant, and IMHO sexy as all get-out; the other sounds more like
bad sinuses and long stays in cabins with no running water.  Now which is
Harvard?  Not the first one, I'll tell you that!  I don't think Britain counts
as a really foreign country either.  Now if he'd spent four years at Tokyo
University, that would be a whole different shooting match.  As it is, the
Oxford connection is right in line with my opinion of Billy C. already -
thanks but no thanks.:-)

                                                                
>
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From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: LATER
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:13:39 GMT

In article <9210131448.AA12821@e5sb.osdhw.syr.ge.com> "(rogers ken x2718)" <rogers@E5SB.OSDHW.SYR.GE.COM> writes:
>I can see the "regulars" on this list are probably
>still in college. I graduated with my MBA six years
>ago. You'll grow out of your narrow minded mostly
>liberal way of thinking. But the only way you can do
>this is to think for yourself. Going against the

HO HO HO!  Who is this asshole? - I missed his arrival but I won't miss
him now for the world.  We can have some real *fun* with this one.

FYI, sonny, most of the 'regulars' on this list are old enough to
be your parents, and have been thinking for themselves since before
you were born.  *You*'re the child of the brainwashed generation...

G
PS It's considered rude to boast about qualifications here; also slightly
embarassing when the PhD-wars start again and you find you're seriously
out-qualified by ... well, just about everyone...
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From: gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: Senseless kindness and random beauty, or whatever it was.
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:46:09 GMT
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:30:29 EDT, "Frank" <ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> wrote:
> This was forwarded to me from another list by a friend at Brown.  Here it
> is.  Enjoy, Marty.

Oh God, you could have *mailed* it to him Frank.  I didn't mean you to
hurry back _that_ soon...

G
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Metric system?
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              Oct 14, 92 11:15 pm

> >On the news tonight I heard that the US is supposed to be switching over
> >to metric by 1996!
> Yes, official date to begin is 10/1/96, I believe, and ther first phase
> to begin 10/1/92.  We've already done it on auto parts and all sorts of
> other stuff that gets sold internationally, and will certainly happen
> on road signs and such before too long.
>
> dan

Hrrumphh.  I finally get used to the FPS system and will now have to
relearn the metric system all over again.  For a long time, I had to do a
quick conversion from farenheit to celsius before I could get a "feel" of the
temperature.  I could go from one to the other in my head in a jiffy.  Also
distances, weights et cetera.

rashmi
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From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Amtrak quiz (was AUStrak)
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              "BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU" at Oct 11, 92 10:55 am

>       The last list messages I received were from Ruth Hanschka, around
>       midnight, and then two from Natalie about 45 minutes ago.
>
>       I suspect there is something wrong with the mail function here
>       at UKCC.  I can't imagine a Words-l silence this deafening.
>
>       I hate it when this happens: you know there is a conversation
>       going on, yet you can't hear it.
>
>       brad
>

Not necessarily - I've noticed a general drop in the volume lately,
which I've attributed to school starting up again....
In any case, whatever it is I share it with you (people - even
commited listers such as wurdslers - *do* do other things, especially
on Fri/Sat nights ...no? I did.)

Agnes
Happy thanksgiving from the land of the Maple Leaf...may it have many
happy returns...
From: rita@EFF.ORG (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
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Date: 7 Oct 92 16:30:06 GMT
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              92 11:17 am

>   1)  I had the same impression.... maybe that's one reason (plus
>   *no* *southern* *accent*) that I identified the <real> Natalie as
>   Rita, who always seemed, virtually, *sweet* as can be.

	HOW DARE YOU CALL ME SWEET!  Why, I never in all my life!
Anne, it's time for grumpiness lessons.  Obviously, I'm in need of
a <brush-up> from the Le Pig School of Surly Posting.


Rita
Speaking of all my life, I get to choose my retirement plan
today.  It's never too early to begin planning for one's
golden years!
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Debate
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              "CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Oct 15, 92 11:41 pm

> I thought it was a fine debate.  The big winners were the audience, who
> demonstrated beyond the shadow of a doubt that media questioners are
> totally superfluous.

I liked this one better than the first one, missed the VPs mud fest.  The
audience asked some good questions, and I liked the fact that they never once
applauded -- so someone like Perot who plays to the audience was disoriented.
I wasn't very impressed with the moderator, she giggled too much.

rashmi
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Butt Plugs
Date: 14 Oct 1992 20:01:31 GMT
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In a previous article, harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU ("") says:

>>At least Ruth is willing to ask without inventing a "friend" with the
>>question.  What happened, you were concerned your JT Toys order
>
>You dipstick, Ruth *was* the private correspondent! I was supercilliously
Yep - curiosity was killing this cat.:-)
>trying to protect her identity, but she has since written me and said that
>my efforts were well-intentioned but unnecessary. Don't be such a doofus.
Awwwww, why not?  After all, doofus[s] fit in here just fine, and they give
the bandwidth pigs of the world someone to pick on.  We NEED doofuses.
Although why everyone made a fuss over an anal dildo is beyond me.  Dan 
forwarded a catelogue to my mailbox that had much more interesting stuff
in it.<grin>  Don't think I'll be ordering anything soon, though....

>And John M. Williams, I'll collect on that bet now, thank you. ;-)
Anne, what are you going to do to or with poor John?  Or should we even ask?

>
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From: AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 05:06:15 GMT
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>Greetings,
>
>It's not clear to me what Ausbrook's garbled logic is intended to support.
>He first offers evidence, including Greenfield's comments and the
>Quayle-Gore dialog, that Quayle is distorting Gore's position.  Gore
>clearly has not stated that US taxpayers should spend the specified sum
>for the specified purpose.  Even so, Ausbrook says, "Greenfield is
>wrong, right?"
>
>Is this a joke?
>
>Marty

Yes Marty, your wilfull (it has to be) obtuseness is a joke.  The quote from
Gore's book clearly implies--it is not merely my inference--that something on
the order of 100 bil ought to go for a global Marshall Plan.  Greenfield's
comments are evidence only that he reads little, knows less, and relies on an
incompetent staff.  They are certainly not evidence that Quayle was distorting
Gore's position.  Jim provided the quote.  That was the evidence that (alas)
Quayle was not distorting Gore's intent at all.

Read it again.  READ.  I believe you said you like your proof in writing.  It's
there to be had.  Watch less TV.  Your brain might return.

There's an aweful lot of cognitive dissonance running around this list.  Must
happen every four years.

-K

-Mka
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Model Railroad
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              Unite" at Oct 6, 92 10:07 am

Chris:
> Having a brother who's been "tying his own", so to speak, since he was 6, I
> pretty much could have scripted Steve's response here.

Good, you can do him next time!!

rashmi

It's a JOKE, Chris
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:57:01 -0400
From:         RKESSLER@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      The debate
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Did anyone say anything interesting? One of the "citizens" got
the boys to knock off all the character assassinations.

Bush mentioned that his dad asked him to write to mom when he
went off to be a soldier "and by the way, I did."

To me tonight's debate was like the beauty contest that nobody
one.
-Rod

Rkessler@RCN.MASS.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:43:00 CDT
From:         "Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet)"
 <TK0JUT1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Anything of Interest?

Chris sagacitizes:

   >Yea, verily. But they must have Democratic friends to show them
   >the way.  Can you imagine Bill S. if Jim T. wasn't his friend?

Indeed, but lest we forget, Bill S. was a loving, caring, bright,
sensitive lefty-liberal before he was corrupted by the dark side of
the force. I suspect Ireland will bring him back to the
correct side.

Jim (optimistic about the prognosis for Bill's recovery) Thomas
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Subject:      Re: The <Award>
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              Rouvalis" at Oct 15, 92 7:30 pm

>
> So, Rashmi, Natalie... Yours got red velvet also?

Yup - Does yours have three .. you know?

rashmi
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:39:34 CDT
From:         "(Frank Peters)" <fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Moose
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In article <WORDS-L%92100822282375@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
 says:
: Posted on 8 Oct 1992 at 18:02:52 by (karsten)
: >Posted on 7 Oct 1992 at 23:37:29 by (Bayla Singer)
: >>Sometimes nothing works, and I just hang up,
: >>*knowing* that it's a bad idea, but nobody's ever told me a better one.
: >EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU writes:
: >> Why is it a bad idea to hang up?
: >[telnet] continues waiting for further communication.
:
: But why is this necessarily a bad thing?

For a variety of reasons.

o If you are paying a fee for connection time this waiting telnet
  server can look like an active connection...and the meter keeps
  ticking after your gone.  Usually for only a few minutes, but when
  time is money...

o Many systems have a limited number of psuedo ttys (the devices that
  get allocated to these network connections) and they can run out if
  there are many of these slots tied up with these hung connections.

o Some programs don't take well to having their connections ripped out
  from under them.  We had one user collect an ungodly amount of CPU
  time because she left a disconnected emacs process behind.  It
  started accumulating largish amounts of CPU time and stayed out there
  for three weeks.  Again, if you are paying for resources that can hit
  you.

o Earlier releases of SunOS (4.0.x) had a bug in pty allocation.  We
  had users occasionally log in and get connected to SOMEONE ELSE's
  broken connection.  Luckily, we never had anyone do any harm in these
  situations (and Sun got the bug fixed quickly) but there is no
  guarantee that something like that couldn't happen on other systems.
--
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bouncing Mail from Missouri?
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> Have the others of you who have posted this afternoon or tonight gotten
> bounced mail from missouri.edu?
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Yes, and it keeps coming. Guess they want us to <show> them something.
Doris
From: LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Karen Kay)
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Subject: Women in Politics
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:22:12 GMT
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Well, Cokie Roberts just mentioned that Dianne Feinstein and Barbara
Boxer (who are running for the Senate in California) are both Jewish.
I think Judith and Bayla should start campaigning immediately!!!! It's
not too late!!!

Speaking of which, I caught a glimpse of Boxer and Feinstein
campaigning together on the news last night--they were standing with
their arms around each other.  I thought that was unusual, and very
nice.

Karen
From: TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain)
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Date: 13 Oct 92 16:58:00 GMT
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>career.  And hey, he's the first of the baby-boomers to make it to
>the White House if he gets elected -- I'm curious to see what these
>sonofabitches are going to do with the job.  They've had all kinds of
>influence from the peace rallys of the 60's to the  80's run on small
>kitchen appliances.  Not that I think they'll do any better than those

	This got me thinking about our little e-community.

	I'm not speaking specifically of WORDS-L, but of the net and computers
	and telnet and ftp and all that.

	Can anyone out there imagine George Bush sitting in front of his 486 or
	Mac or Sun or whatever, and cruising the nets?  Or even playing Tetris?
	I really see him as personally immune to the technology, and without a
	shred of interest in learning, understanding, or feeling its power.

	Although Perot made his fortune in the electronic data business, I see
	him as more interested in the sales/business side; it could have been
	lawn furniture or bauxite, for all he cares.  I think he'd be
	*interested* in what happens on the screen, but would think it a waste
	of time to actually get down and play with it.

	Clinton is tougher for me to visualize.  He might be a power user, or
	he might be scared of it; I can certainly see him jotting down notes to
	himself on a laptop, but I can also see him using a pencil and paper to
	do the same thing.  But he does, I think, possess the 'mindset' that
	can understand the power and utility of the net.  I wonder whether his
	daughter has a PC, or uses one at school.  And I'd lay odds that
	Hillary carries a laptop with her, probably with a cellular modem.

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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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>AAHEM.  Such extrapoltion is an unfair characterization.
Why?  What's unfair about it?
>                                                       Does Gore
>say that the USA will pick up the tab alone?
No, he says we SHOULD, but whether out of the goodness of our hearts or Liberal
Guilt he _doesn't_ say.  He *does* say that we [taxpayers] are "unwilling"...
He's got that right.
>                               Have you ever heard of the Marshall Plan as
>metaphor?
Not until today, no.
Hey, all I did was look up the citation in the goddam book, okay?  I was
hoping to catch the veep in an obvious clanger but it turns out that he was
right!  Now, if you want to get into the ZPG thing and how Western Society
is the enemy of all mankind yatta-da yatta-da go get your own copy of the
damn thing before you accuse me of putting words into the mouth of the
husband of the new Director of Musical Purity.  All I did was insert a
footnote - I do it for a living, if that's all right with you...  What you
think of it is your business.  Like that damn Rio conference:  I was less than
eager to open my wallet for anyone who's raping the Earth and expecting me to
pay them for the honor?  Does that make me insensitive?  Perhaps the more
partisan of us might benefit from a brief examination of our own motives
before mounting the ramparts and lobbing dornicks at anyone who differs or
disagrees from us in the slightest.  What is this, a Purity Test?  I've had
an otherwise bad day, you bastard, and tilting at closed minds was the last
thing I wanted...  Since your mind is already made up, why do you care?
Some of us are still weighing the issues, and your braying is interfering
with the logical progression of thought.

John I know I'm gonna regret this W.
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ((Natalie Maynor))
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Date: 13 Oct 92 16:22:12 GMT
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> I need to find the definition/derivation of this word:
>
> VACCIMULGENCE

Milking of cows.  Used by Coleridge in 1796.  Don't know specific etymology.
No time now for further checking.  Gotta log off.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: The VP Debates.

I thought the whole thing was embarrassing.  It wasn't shown overseas,
was it?  Please, tell me it wasn't!

JMW
From: MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Michael E. Macmillan)
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Date: 13 Oct 92 20:44:00 GMT
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>19) RB (Michael M.)

Dan and I were exchanging pleasantries about Digital Equipment
Corporation and one of its products, a microcomputer named the
Rainbow, which I abbreviated as RB.  Common usage among the handful
who cling to the old machine, but hardly deserving of an entry in
your standard lexicon.

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Hurry back, Frank.
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU () says:

>Posted on 15 Oct 1992 at 11:23:41 by Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)
>>Well, don't send her to me unless you want her to be totally
>>corrupted.
>
>Steve!  I have never seen you as the corrupter of young womanhood before!
>Hmmm...I can see my mental image needs readjustment.:)
>
Don't worry, Karen; if he tried anything on Dorie [the sister] he'd be wishing
he was facing Joan Crawford instead of her.  Especially a few days of every
month - those times all he'd have to do is be in the same room.<feral grin>
It's more likely she'd wind up corrupting *him*.

>I told you I can't do anything more than speculate on other people's sex lives
>today
We can't say we weren't warned......

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From: CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
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Date: 15 Oct 92 13:11:00 GMT
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Greetings,

Ausbrook, you say "Gore's book clearly implies ...that something on the
order of 100 bil ought to go for a global Marshall plan."

Quayle said that Gore had suggested that US taxpayers ought to spend
that figure.

Gore's book does not say what Quayle implied.

I know it's a test of analytical abilities, but I wonder whether you can see
the difference.

Thanks for the advice that I should read more.  I'll do that.

Marty