From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.limbaugh,talk.politics.mideast,misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship
Subject: Re: BACK TO LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NONAGENDA
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:56:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Jul30.185612.18563
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <1992Jul30.134657.21050@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>
> 
> 29 Jul 92 19:21:02 GMT         alt.rush-limbaugh            Thread  103 of  103
> Article 3748     Schmidling is simply wrong... and a liar.  No responses
> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca  Ken Mcvay at The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Islan
> 
> In article <1992Jul29.131434.26951@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmid
> ling) writes:

> ARF says:

> > Refusing another $10 billion on top of the $78 billion
> > already bilked from American taxpayers is hardly proof

> <"Bilked" suggests a criminal act - please prove that 
> statement, perhaps by demonstrating that the American 
> taxpayers have paid this amount because the                   
>  expendature was misrepresented. Or quit using emotive 
> bullshit terms like "bilked" which have no basis in fact.

> ARF says:
> Frankly, I don't know where to begin with the list of 
> misrepresentation about Israel that we have been fed.
> 
> Let's just start out with the frequently repeated myth about 
> the only Democracy in the Mideast.  That is, the only 
> democracy that officially sanctions torture, imprisons 
> without trial, practices collective punishment on innocents.

First off, Israel is a democracy.  There was an election there, and a
change of governments resulted.  10% of the voters were Arab, some of
whom voted for the mainstream parties, some of whom voted for Arab
parties.

Are you denying that Israel is a democracy?  If not, then what are the
other democracies?

> Or the only "democracy" in the Mideast with two classes of 
> citizenship, one for Jews and one for non-Jews.  Aparteid 
> yes, democracy, hell no.

No, one type of citizenship, Israeli.  There are also non-citizens who
live in territories under dispute.  Would you like Israel to annex
those territories, and grant citizenship to its residents, as Israel
did in Jerusalem in 1967?

> Then how bout our true friend in the Mideast.  A friend that 
> bombs and slaughters American sailors on the USS Liberty, 
> sends spies to steal our secrets and sells them to the USSR.  
> Sabatoges US embasies to make it look like evil Arabs again.

There is quite a bit of evidence that the attack was unintentional.
There is no evidence that information was sent to the Soviets.  There
is no evidence that Israelis attack embassies and try to make it look
like Arabs do it.  Or did Israelis blow up their own embassy in Buenos
Ares?

> ARF says:
> 
> I see and you judge me by my "reputation" but can not quote 
> a single statement by me that would back up that opinion.

Hymies and Raghead. Secrewt Rabbi tax. David Duke.  Kosher slaughter
is evil. Sounds to me like you don't love Jews, Arf.

> BTW, you will note I changed the subject back again.  I 
> refuse to get sucked out of the origional issue.
> Why does Rush refuse to talk about Israel?

Hes probably afraid of getting associated with loonies like you.



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