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From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: ANTI-CHINESE soc.culture.asian.american posts (Underdog)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:35:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.203019.14168@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.034405.17826@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr1.205124.10591@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> kniaz@cat1.cs.wisc.edu (Joel Kniaz) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr1.015136.19050@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>>>
>>I picked this from soc.culture.japan: I do not know more detail than what I 
>>wrote. The none-prosecution is resulted from: all jury were fellow G.I. too,
>>It is hard to judge fellow sodiers gulty of any thing.
>
>I read soc.culture.japan fairly assiduously, and do not remember this at all.
                          *****
sorry! I do not keep note on what I read! Another thing I can tell that I read
that less than 6 month ago. I could not come up any thing more than that.
>Could you be a little more specific here?
>
>>I think the story is belivable:
>>   1) Japan lost WWII, it was less likely that US would allow local jury for
>>      G.I. casses; same situation in Germany, I even heard Germany is trying
>>      to change the jurisdition;
>
>This is wrong. In Japan, GIs accused of committing crimes while off-base are
>turned over to JAPANESE authorities, are tried by Japanese courts and 
I know this is true for US base in UK not in Japan and Germany.
I can give you an circumstance evidence on my side of story! US had special 
jurisdication in China too after WWII. There were a rape case involved one 
G.I. and a Beijing University student. The G.I. was not charged any thing
by the jury consisted of G.I.s. China was in outrage. CCP used this stroy to
pick on KMT for a long time and pretty effective!
>sentenced by Japanese judges. Jail-time, if any, is done in Japanese prisons.
>The GI may, IN ADDITION, face a court-martial. The same is true in Germany.
>I doubt that Germany is trying to change this. The situation you refer to 
>has not been around for over 40 years (ie, since the time of the Allied
>occupations of those two countries).
>
>>   2) In the War with Panama, a G.I. was alleged by a fellew sodier of murdering      a Panama POW, the G.I. was nott prosecuted because of jury are all G.I.s
>>      themselve.
>
>Crimes against POWs are handled by a court-martial, not civilian courts. And 
>the first step of a court-martial does NOT involve a trial in any event.
>
>Mike
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From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: UNDERDOG:  WAKE UP AND OPEN YOUR MIND.
Keywords: predestination
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:39:41 GMT
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Distribution: na
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee

In article <1992Apr12.005212.6475@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>
>At no point in Chinese history has China ever been as prosperous
>and well off as the USA or Western Europe.  Even if you reach back
>3000 years like the way many China-philes like to do, you will find
>that China was far worse than modern Western society.  There was
>no penicillin, no antibiotics, no Bill of Rights, no human decency
>(but that's always been true, hasn't it?), etc. in China.
>

That is right. And so many Chinese praise Confucius I simply cannot understand
why. Did Confucius know anything about group theory? Did he know anything
about solving differential equations? Did he speak English? I doubt very
much if he even knew how to ride a bicycle, not mentioning driving a car.

Chou1
                                           
Xref: sparky soc.culture.asian.american:3555 soc.culture.china:12873
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: inflation in China
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:42:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <92104.164620SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu> SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>    Reuter, Manila, April 10 - The Asian Development Bank (ADB) gave the
>following projections for growth in real gross domestic product (GDP)
>and inflation for 1992 and 1993 (in pct):
>
>                              GDP             Inflation
>                       1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
> Taiwan                 7.3   7.5   7.7     3.5   3.4   3.7
> China                  7.0   7.8   7.5     3.0   7.0   6.0
>
A letter of a friend in Beijing complains the recent inflation
which has impacted to every family: the salary has not increased,
the living price is going higher and higher, what we do to live?

A trend of illegal immigrants to Taiwan is increasing, no matter
most of them might be caught in the first hour after landing.
Even a PLA officer was in the wave moving to Taiwan. They claimed
that if they are succeed they will make U$400 at least and normally
between 400 and 600 per month which is more than ten fold of pay
they can make in Mainland. If they got caught, they can enjoy easy
live (meal and living in custody is good) a while and bing sent 
back free. Some of them said that they like KMT and DPP conflict
increasing, so the coast guard will have less attention on them.
From: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Will America fall?   teeter, teeter
Keywords: Chinese history
Date: 12 Apr 92 08:22:00 GMT
Reply-To: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Apr12.005212.6475@leland.Stanford.EDU> @#$% writes:
>At no point in Chinese history has China ever been as prosperous
>and well off as the USA or Western Europe.

Just a few points:
1. Chinese civilization is one of the oldest in the world.
2. The Yuan Dynasty was the largest empire ever existed, being about twice
	the size of the Islamic Empire and the Roman Empire (which is not 
	Roman, not holly, nor empire).
3. The Sung Dynasty (979-1279AD) was the most advanced and industrialized
	society in the word.

>That, I suppose, is the strange part.  Leninism comes from an
>inferior realm of Western society, yet compared to what the Chinese

No society is inferior.

====================================>.sig <====================================
  Harry Xu  (KB2LHA)	   Internet:  hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
 *Columbia University Amateur Radio Club (CUARC-<>-W2AEE)  *Founded, 1913*
 *The American Radio Relay League:  Amateur Radio >>---> A National Resource
 *New York Road Runners Club  -&-  Columbia University Road Runners Club 
	"Go run; nothing else makes you feel as good as making love."  --ME
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: it1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Tim Tsai)
Subject: Re: Oriental bias against Indians ? How true ?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:28:06 GMT

jpak@oakhill.sps.mot.com (James Pak) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.125928.6428@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala) writes:
[...]
>>  I've never noticed any discrimination over the net about
>>  computer chatting...
>No, not over the net.  I think Tim was referring to private e-mail exchanges
>between him and the various women.

  Yup.  I was referring to forums where flirting is considered the norm.
Mostly Internet BBS's.

>>  [a few sentences deleted]
>>  However I've had guys mail me diskettes with their favorite public
>>  domain software, mail me sample printouts, call me up
>>  when they were in town, ask me if I'm single, etc.
>Uhh, Clare, don't you see the difference between your situation and that of
>Tim or George?  As a woman in a rather male-dominated forum like here, your
>situation is a bit different from that of the two males.
[...]

  I agree.  A while back there were several stories about how many
Caucasians that consider *ANY* Asian women to be attractive.  I don't
think the reverse is true.

>>  I don't know why I bother, but I guess I do want to keep up with what other
>>  Asian Americans are up to.  :-(

  Well, thanks for staying.  :-)

  Tim

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: qsz2u@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Qingsong  Zhang)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Which universities have AA departments?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:29:20 GMT

UCLA has an Asian American Studies Center.
Hunter College of CUNY has a American American Studies Center.
From: acsossc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Samir Chaudhari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Oriental bias against Indians - Originator
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:33:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr17.152234.22962@nynexst.com>, clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala) writes...
>In article <70339@ut-emx.uucp> vishram@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vishram P.Dalvi)
 writes:

>  I was given an English name by my mom.  She was given an English
>  name by her English teacher.  That is interesting.  Right now, I'm
>  hard pressed to think of an Indian-American with an English name,
>  and I know a lot!  Oh...I've got one.  Anita Govindjee.  If you're
>  reading this, "hi!"

	 An NY Chinatownian friend of mine says "Will it be the same if
my name would have been something like Xiaobing li Ning or something??"
	I believe a Christian name comes as a default, and it's become
more of a tradition among the Chinese here.

PS: Anita is an Indian name (although one finds Anitas here too), which 
means something to the effect of 'someone with good moral values' in 
Sanskrit language.

-S
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: candice@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Candice Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Asian American film
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:19:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa

Oops, I think I sent this message to the wrong newsgroup,
so here it goes again-well a shorter version.  I just
wanted to know if anyone heard or saw a film called
"Banana Split" by this Asian American male film-maker.
It's not a commercial movie, maybe it's been shown in
some film festivals.  If you can see it, you're lucky.
The film-maker is hapa but relates more towards his 
Chinese side and he has such a weird sense of humor.
I think his name is Kip Fulbeck from La Jolla(?), CA

candice
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Reclaiming our heritage (was: Oriental bias against Indians...)
From: kyee@bnlux1.bnl.gov (kenton yee)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:28:22 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

pr12103249@jukebox.lcs.mit.edu> mday@jukebox.lcs.mit.edu (Mark Day) writes:
>   hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:
>	   Nth-generation Asian Americans?  N must be = to 1 or 2.
>
>This is an odd claim.  The AA population is heavily skewed toward
>recent immigrants because earlier immigration laws tended to be
>heavily biased against Asian immigration; but that doesn't mean that
>there are *no* AAs descended from immigrants several generations back.

  How true.  My family is originally from the Toisan region in
  China from where thousands of cheap migrant workers (my 
  greatgrandfather included) were imported to work in the US. 
  Such "N must be less than or equal to 2" statements unfairly
  ignore their contributions, however menial, to this country
  and I find them personally offensive.
From: tdwu@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Thomas Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Asian American amateur athletes
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:37:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: faust.TDWU.92Apr10003727
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science


In article <1992Apr9.063409.13725@cheshire.oxy.edu> ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho) writes:

>   I'm a runner, too, and
>   all throughout high school it was never a big deal...well, not at _my_
>   high school...but then I went to college and joined the cross country 
>   team, and dude...lost among a crowd of long-legged, slender-built Cauca-
>   sians.

I have a similar but somewhat different experience.  When I was
growing up in California, my parents somehow knew how important
athletics are in this country, and they encouraged my two brothers and
me to participate in competitive swimming.  As you may know, swimming
in California is a major sport, and as a teenager I spent some 4 hours
almost every day training.  In fact, I ended up becoming a high school
All-American in swimming.

But when I went to Stanford, I couldn't compete very much because
everyone else was so fast.  One other person in my event held the
world record, and another was one of the top dozen or so in the U.S.
So, I gave up on swimming after my freshman year.

My youngest brother had a similar experience as well.  He played water
polo in high school and became a third-team All-American.  But when he
went to Stanford, he couldn't play very much because everyone else was
first- and second-team All-American!

Anyway, I feel that athletics had a big influence on my youth.  Like
the stereotypical AA, I did well academically and played the violin
and piano, but because of my swimming I never felt like a
stereotypical AA.

-------------------------
Thomas Wu
tdwu@mit.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.china
Subject: FWD info.
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:46:19 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

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  The following is what I had seen in other groups, I repost it here
for you to get some infomation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..........<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Reuter, Manila, April 10 - The Asian Development Bank (ADB) gave the
following projections for growth in real gross domestic product (GDP)
and inflation for 1992 and 1993 (in pct):

                              GDP             Inflation
                       1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
   NICs                 7.3   7.1   7.1     7.7   7.2   6.6
 Hong Kong              4.0   5.8   6.0    12.3  10.5   8.5
 South Korea            8.3   7.3   7.1     9.7   9.4   8.5
 Singapore              7.0   6.1   7.0     3.4   3.0   3.0
 Taiwan                 7.3   7.5   7.7     3.5   3.4   3.7

                               GDP             Inflation
                       1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
 North Asia             7.0   7.8   7.5     3.0   7.0   6.0
  China                 7.0   7.8   7.5     3.0   7.0   6.0
  Mongolia            -18.0  -6.0  -1.5   130.0  50.0  30.0

                               GDP             Inflation
                        1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
Southeast Asia           5.9   6.7   7.1     8.8   8.1   7.1
   Burma                 3.7   4.0   4.1    28.7  26.0  25.0
   Indonesia             6.4   6.7   7.0     9.2   9.0   8.0
   Laos                  4.0   7.1   5.9    10.4   9.5   9.0
   Malaysia              8.6   8.5   8.0     4.5   5.0   5.0
   Philippines          -1.0   2.8   4.3    17.7  13.0   9.0
   Thailand              7.5   8.0   8.1     5.8   6.0   6.0
   Vietnam               3.8   5.0   4.5    78.9  45.0  20.0

                                GDP             Inflation
                         1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
 South Asia               2.7   4.6   5.0    14.6   8.9   8.3
   Bangladesh             3.3   4.7   5.2     7.4   9.1   9.2
   Bhutan                 3.5   4.0   4.6    11.5  10.5  10.0
   India                  2.0   4.3   4.8    14.4   7.5   7.0
   Nepal                  4.0   3.5   4.0    15.4  16.0  12.0
   Pakistan               6.5   6.7   7.2    12.2   8.0   7.0
   Sri Lanka              5.0   5.9   5.6    12.0  11.0  10.0
From: achin@math.tamu.edu (Andrew Chin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Asian American amateur athletes
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:46:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.12183
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept of Mathematics, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr10.053518.9432@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:

|> I'm only a recreational runner/racer.  Haven't won anything yet.  It just 
|> take some time.  A year from now, I should be winning regularly.  anyway,
|> winning is not a big deal; just have fun.  You can look at it this way: You
|> are computing with yourself (your "old self").
       ^^^^^^^^^

Alas, the loneliness of the long-distance hacker....
-- 
Andrew Chin    Dept. of Math.    Texas A&M U.    College Station, TX 77843
achin@math.tamu.edu   Probably not TAMU's exact opinions.   (409) 845-1924
                * Fighting racism is not a special interest *
From: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: East Asian Ethics (was Re: Chinatown unsafe?)
Date: 12 Apr 92 08:57:41 GMT
Organization: Columbia University

My apology for the last posting.  Pressed the wrong key.

In article <MDAY.92Apr10105757@jukebox.lcs.mit.edu> mday@jukebox.lcs.mit.edu (Mark Day) writes:
>   hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:
>   Confucianism and Buddhism are the major or dominant 
>   philosophy/religion concerning ethics in the area.  The only competition
>   of any significance is Shintoism in Japan.
>
>I think you need to account for Taoism in here somewhere.  I've often
>heard that underneath Confucianism and Buddhism, many or most Chinese
>are Taoist at heart.  I have no idea whether that is true; others are
>more qualified to judge.
	I believe Taosist influence is neglegible comparing to Confucianism
and Buddhism.  Definite not many Chinese are Taoist or even sure about
what Taoism is all about.
	Can anybody name a Taoist attribute?  (-that can not be considered
also Confucist or Buddhist.)

>interpretation.  A friend of mine who spent a year in Japan described
>how at lunch, the most senior person would order first, and everyone
>else would order the same thing.  Is that being considerate or just
>mindless conformism and deference to authority? 

	Scholars believe that "social relationships in Japan are verticle,
based on status, respect, and duty.  In the United States, social 
relationships are more likely to be horizontal, based on friendship, 
affection, and attraction."  That might explain the above situation.
	I believe that East Asians are more willing to make personal 
sacrifice to satisfy others, the boss  or a friend.  That's what I mean by
"East Asians being more considerate."

====================================>.sig <====================================
  Harry Xu  (KB2LHA)	   Internet:  hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
 *Columbia University Amateur Radio Club (CUARC-<>-W2AEE)  *Founded, 1913*
 *The American Radio Relay League:  Amateur Radio >>---> A National Resource
 *New York Road Runners Club  -&-  Columbia University Road Runners Club 
	"Go run; nothing else makes you feel as good as making love."  --ME
====================================> end <====================================
From: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM (I Shop therefore I AM!!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: re Why is stereotyping bad? (Re: 'Asian Nerd' Stereotype)
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:23:37 GMT
Reply-To: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM (I Shop therefore I AM!!)
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedarktower.corp.sun.com


	JLM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU :
	>  However, there are racial stereotypes used against whites 			> by blacks and orientals:
	> ....
	>  Another example: some orientals claim that all whites have 
	> no respect for their elders.

Here's another one: Chinese food to whites consist of only three
dishes - sweet and sour pork, pork fried rice, and lemon chicken. 

Then there was Martin Mull's movie, "The History of White People."

	Melinda
From: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Subject: Asian vs Western education (was: Re: asian-american achievement)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 07:27:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.153825.15914@midway.uchicago.edu> sieh@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Mar31.164254.26590@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sbog6936@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>(Bin Ong) writes:
>>[stuff deleted]
>>Now how about Asian-Americans? In a separate sample, Stevensonfound
>>that Asian-American students in Chicago scored lower than their peers
>>in Taiwan and Japan, but still higher than peers of other ethnic
>>groups in the US sample. Dornbusch's study quoted in my earlier post
>>indicate Asian-Americans do continue the trend. 

	I remember reading _Psychology_ by Wade & Tavris and see an 
interesting passage.  According to which, phychologist administered a test
to a group of Americans and a group of Asias (I think it was Chinese) when
they were students and again 30 years later.  While they were in school,
the Asians did significantly better.  But 30 years later, the Americans
did significantly better.  The conclusion was that Asian/(Chinese?) 
education emphasize more on memorization while the American education 
emphasize more on thinking and analytic skills comparing to the other.

====================================>.sig <====================================
  Harry Xu  (KB2LHA)	   Internet:  hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
 *Columbia University Amateur Radio Club (CUARC-<>-W2AEE)  *Founded, 1913*
 *The American Radio Relay League:  Amateur Radio >>---> A National Resource
 *New York Road Runners Club  -&-  Columbia University Road Runners Club 
	"Go run; nothing else makes you feel as good as making love."  --ME
====================================> end <====================================
From: achin@math.tamu.edu (Andrew Chin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Will America fall?
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:45:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dept of Mathematics, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr8.005256.4868@leland.Stanford.EDU>, underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

|> This is a ludicrous comparison.  Mr. Huang is comparing Japanese
|> gangs in Japan with Chinese gangs in the USA.  USA is not the
|> home turf of Chinese but is fast becoming one.

You mean if I joined a gang, people would see me as a Real American <tm>?

I've seen lots of wild explanations for the present (presumably downward)
trajectory of the USA, but Chinese influence?  NOT!
-- 
Andrew Chin    Dept. of Math.    Texas A&M U.    College Station, TX 77843
achin@math.tamu.edu   Probably not TAMU's exact opinions.   (409) 845-1924
                * Fighting racism is not a special interest *
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