HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Texas Bob or Eddie Froman depending on the moon)
Subject: Re: I'm back....but where are you?
Summary: Greetings... and it's the summer lull...
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:30:37 GMT

In article <672@dsbc.icl.co.uk> abw@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andy Wardley) writes:

>Well after six months of frustration I've finally got a news feed back.
>Eagerly I head straight for a.g-g to see if all my old buddies are there.
>Zip.

Greetings!

Yeah, you happened to catch us during the summer lull, when folks are out
and away, experiencing life at its fullest...

>Is anyone still listening?

Yeppers; at least I'm still around, and some of the regulars post every
once in a while, but again... it's a pretty dull time of year for us
college-bound folk.

We're currently putting the wraps on a new, modified, updated, improved
Writing Style Guide/Formats for the Project Galactic-Guide... once the
final initial proposal is set, it'll be posted HERE, and then the usual
round-table discussions will begin...

BTW, the first complete, official article archive/collection was issued
early this month, and development of TG! for IBM's (and also readers for
other computer platforms) is continuing as usual (version 1.0 of TG! has
been slightly delayed, mostly due to a mongo hard-disk crash; pretty nasty
stuff, etc - recoverable, just takes time...)

>Cheers
>Andy

Yeah, that's a good show... but isn't there a separate fan/message base
for that?  <G>

Steve
--
     "Hey Doctor, there's a hole in my forehead
      With a finger-like gland movin' out
      Well, the Woman in the Wall, she said it was Pineal;
      Can you tell me what it's all about?"

                          -- "Pineal Mochus" from WLSD-FM Radio

swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: flatline@eskimo.celestial.com (Flatline)
Subject: Guide, et al
Organization: I tattooed my brain all the way...
Distribution: alt.galactic-guide
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:20:14 GMT

so, does anyone have a reader for the Mac?  if it can be put in the ftp site, that would be much appreciated. 

how soon can i expect an update on guide entries, and that policy stuff you are working on?
-- 
I've always been mad, I know I've    | get out of my face and watch me die
been mad, like the most of us...     | 
very hard to explain why you're mad, |    flatline@eskimo.celestial.com
even if you're not mad...            |
From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
Subject: Re: gopher or wais access?
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:59:25 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <1992Jul26.121751.9224@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>Has anyone considered making the guide available by gopher or wais?
> Albert Lunde  


No sooner said than done.

The Gopher server on uts.mcc.ac.uk (port 70) now includes the contents of
the file 19920705.NEW as part of its database.  It can be found in the "Just
for Fun" entry of the main menu.  The entries are fully indexed allowing
keyword lookup.  You don't get all the bells and whistles of the PC guide
program but it's quite nifty all the same.  If I get a spare lunch time I'll
look into making the format of the file more suitable for the waisindex
program (or prehaps teach waisindex about guide article format.) 

You can get a crude index of all the articles by searching for "Title"
otherwise just enter any old word when requested and select the article from
the menu that will be displayed.




-- 
Geoff. Lane.                                  Janet: zzassgl@uk.ac.mcc.uts
UTS Sys Admin, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Rd, Manchester, M13 9PL
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: teemu@krksun.krk.fi (Teemu Hakala)
Subject: Re: I'm back....but where are you?
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:43:27 GMT

   Well after six months of frustration I've finally got a news feed back.
   Eagerly I head straight for a.g-g to see if all my old buddies are there.
   Zip.

 Its great to hear(?) that you no longer have to do any kind of tricks to
read news or do something else "normal" duties....
 Anyway, discussion here seems to need something, maybe a few postages or so.
Could you (or anybody) please tell me and other curious people around, what
is the meaning of this group? I have received The Guide as email post, but
until now have not had space for it, so I have not tested it to see what is
all about it...

   Is anyone still listening?

 Hmm.. I seem to be the only one at this very moment, but hope that there 
will come others who might even post some opinions worth discussion here..

   Cheers
   Andy

--
Teemu Hakala     |     E-Mail to :     | These opinions are mine, and so are
Kasavuorentie 9B | teemu@krksun.krk.fi | all those *ing mistakes. Do NOT think
02700 Kauniainen | Teemu.Hakala@krk.fi | abt. Radio Club when I make a mistake
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: andreasa@sofus.dhhalden.no (ANDREAS ARFF)
Subject: Re: What about an automatic HHGKG editor
Summary: ... no, you missed the point, but nice suggestions anyway...
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:52:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.163710.28496@vela.acs.oakland.edu> swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Texas Bob or Eddie Froman depending on the moon) writes:

>In article <1992Jul26.125044@IASTATE.EDU> kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:

>Anyone see any ways that we could add a COMPLETELY AUTOMATIC method?
>(I guess this confusion came about because I wasn't clear enough in stating
>that it's very tricky to program a fully automatic system; doing this
>field-prompting/text editor stuff is child's play...)
I can't see that either me or Warren suggested an fully automatic method.
And it seems like you are already thinking of makeing an editor, and no I 
don't belive that it is possible to create an automatic program, until 
someone proofs it by makeing one.
>Steve
>... swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu


sig's on 1000 mile service
              --Andreas Arff  andreasa@sofus.dhhalden.no--
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Subject: Re: What about an automatic HHGKG editor
Reply-To: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:50:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.121944.10924@vela.acs.oakland.edu>,
swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Texas Bob or Eddie Froman depending on the moon)
writes:
> In article <andreasa.58@sofus.dhhalden.no> andreasa@sofus.dhhalden.no (ANDREAS
ARFF) writes:
> >Couldn't you consider an automatic editor that would insert all the
> >format flags for a text.
> 
> It sure would be nice, but let's consider all that would be involved:
[long list deleted]

  You are missing a very simple method.  A menu choice "Create article".  When
called it would bring up a window with boxes for each of the header types (ie.
Title:__________  Author:_______ etc.)  Only when that box is Okayed would you
enter the editor itself (or perhaps just a prompt for a file name).

  This way the person can just write a raw article, and have the flags prompted
for.  This makes it alot easier on the writer, and allows lots more flags to be
added without imposing an extra burden of memorizing them all.

***********************************************************************
* Warren Kurt   *  "Bones, quick!  He's choking!"                     *
* vonRoeschlaub *  "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a . . . oh yeah!"   *
***********************************************************************
From: sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven Heinicke)
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
Subject: Re: gopher or wais access?
Followup-To: alt.galactic-guide
Date: 27 Jul 1992 13:57:41 GMT
Organization: Widener CS Dept
NNTP-Posting-Host: pebbles.cs.widener.edu
In-reply-to: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu's message of Sun, 26 Jul 1992 12:17:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.121751.9224@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:

 > Has anyone considered making the guide available by gopher or wais?

I think that this would be a good idea once there is a few more
articles.  After the second batch of articles perhaps somebody can
post to comp.infosystems.wais or alt.gopher (I think that this is
being voted on now to become a "real" news group) asking about it.

--
sven@cs.widener.edu                                  Widener CS system manager
Sven Heinicke                                               and Student
``The past is like a huge library, mostly fiction.'' --Henry Ford
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: ap618@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lloyd T. Rich)
Subject: THE GREAT GALACTIC GAME\
Reply-To: ap618@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lloyd T. Rich)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:48:59 GMT



		THE GREAT GALACTIC GAME
		 LLOYD 'TIMELUPN' RICH

	THEY HELD THE GREAT GALACTIC GAME BEYOND THE OUTER RIM
	SO FROM THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE BEINGS CAME TO WIN.
	IT WAS THE MOST AMAZING SIGHT THAT EVER THERE COULD BE
	A PLANET WITHOUT DAY OR NIGHT WHERE EVERYONE COULD SEE.

	GALACTIC PRESIDENT BEEBLEBROX THEN BEGAN THE GAME
	WHEN HE POURED A GARGLEBLASTER O'ER THE OLYMPIC FLAME.
	THE FLASH THAT HE HAD CREATED WAS SO GREAT AND BRITE
	IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT HE HAD CREATED ETERNAL LIGHT.

	THE REBELS FOUGHT THE EMPIRE IN A GREAT LIGHT SABRE MATCH
	SABRE RIDER OFFICIATING WHEN DARTH VADER LOST HIS MASK.
	KLINGON WARRIORS AT THE JAVALON THROW DID EXCALL
	WHILE PINNING AN ENTERPRISE CREWMAN UP AGAINST THE WALL.

	THE HOKAS HAVING READ OF MARK SPITZ THOUGHT IT WOULDF BE FUN
	BUT THEN THEY LOST SOME POINTS WHEN THEY ALL STARTED OUT AS ONE.
	THEN THE DORSI WITH THE DISCUS THROW ALMOST WON THIS TIME
	IF ONLY THEY HADN'T GONE AND TRIED TO THROW THAT LAND MINE.

	A TEN LEGGED NAGADELY TRIED TO WIN THE POLE VAULT
	ONLY TO GET ITSELF TANGLED INTO A GIANT KNOT.
	DOCTOR WHO REPRESENTING GALLIFREY LIFTING THE WEIGHT
	FOUND OUT SONIC SCREW DRIVERS WERN'T ALLOWED ALITTLE TOO LATE.

	INDIANA JONES OF EARTH DIDN'T KNOW HOW HE'D GOT THERE
	BUT THEN HE WON FIRST PLACE IN TRACK AND GOT TO KEEP HIS SHARE.
	THE DEVA TRADERS WHO CAME FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION
	SOLD GALACTIC FOOD AND GIFTS AZ THEY RAN  EACH BOOTH AND STAND.

	CALIFORNIANS TRIED THE BALANCE BEAM AND DID REAL GREAT
	SINCE THEIR TRIAL TOOK PLACE DURING THE GREAT DALEK EARTHQUAKE.
	IT SEEMS THE DALEKS LOST AT SHOT PUT AND THIS COULDN'T TAKE
	SO THEY DECIDED EVERYONE TO EXTERMINATE.

	FORD PREFECT COVERED IT FOR THE "GUIDE TO THE GALAXY'
	HITCHHIKERS FOUND IT LISTED AS : TOO CHAOTIC TO SEE.
	AND SO IT WENT WITH THE GREAT GALACTIC GAME
	IT WILL BE QUITE SOMETIME BEFORE THE UNIVERSE IS SANE.

	THIS IS DEDICATED TO ALL OLYMPIANS AND THOSE WHO ENJOY THEM.

-- 
BE EXCELLENT 8^{) REMEMBER WHERE YOUR TOWEL IS FROOD!
       TIMELUP'N RICH ap618@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
       810B N. Carico, Carbondale, IL 62901 U.S.A.
       EARTH, SOL III SYSTEM, MUTTERS SPIRAL 618-457-6424
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: andreasa@sofus.dhhalden.no (ANDREAS ARFF)
Subject: What about an automatic HHGKG editor
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:36:44 GMT

I have been thinking about this for a time.
Couldn't you consider an automatic editor that would insert all the
format flags for a text.
I've been thinking of making one myself, but I know far too little about
turbo-vision (I suppose that you have used TV).
Wouldn't it be a nice feature in later versions of HHGKG.
Then I might contribute with an article on Norway, the land of fjords,
that gave a design price to the creator of Norway, in gold, and made fjords
very popular in other parts of the world.
A text editor is a feature I really would like to see.

Arff



sig's on 1000 mile service
              --Andreas Arff  andreasa@sofus.dhhalden.no--
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: flatline@eskimo.celestial.com (Flatline)
Subject: Re: What about an automatic HHGKG editor
Organization: I tattooed my brain all the way...
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:14:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.121944.10924@vela.acs.oakland.edu> swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Texas Bob or Eddie Froman depending on the moon) writes:
>In article <andreasa.58@sofus.dhhalden.no> andreasa@sofus.dhhalden.no (ANDREAS ARFF) writes:
>          ~T~ symbol or something.  This method, however, is both redundant
>          and unnecessary, since we already have tokens to handle the job.
>
>If you DO find the current token/symbol system too confusing to use, then just
>send the ascii file to me (swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu) and I'll do all that
>stuff for you (see how much we want new articles around here?!?) -- PS, it's
>REALLY not very difficult to work with...
>
>Steve
>--

What is the current token/symbol system? Is there a guide that explains how we ought to write the guide? :) Is there a FAQ? Does anyone really get into this thing enough to make a cool postscript ID card that certifies the bearer as a roving reporter for the guide? (My roomies also want me to ask how to contact the nearest sanitorium for some reason..)  ;-)


-- 
I've always been mad, I know I've    | get out of my face and watch me die
been mad, like the most of us...     | 
very hard to explain why you're mad, |    flatline@eskimo.celestial.com
even if you're not mad...            | 
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: akaufman@ulys.unil.ch
Subject: Re: I'm back....but where are you?
Organization: University of Lausanne - CH (Switzerland)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:59:30 GMT

In article <672@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, abw@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andy Wardley) writes:
> Well after six months of frustration I've finally got a news feed back.
> Eagerly I head straight for a.g-g to see if all my old buddies are there.
> Zip.
> 
> Is anyone still listening?
> 
> Cheers
> Andy


Cher ami,
Ciel que votre frustration est odorifrante puisqu'elle est arrive de l'autre
ct de l'Atlantique. Si vous te toujours en vie, veuillez, je vous prie, nous
transmettre quelques prcisions sur votre pathologie.
Dr Ducret  
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Texas Bob or Eddie Froman depending on the moon)
Subject: Re: What about an automatic HHGKG editor
Summary: ... no, you missed the point, but nice suggestions anyway...
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:37:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.125044@IASTATE.EDU> kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:

>  You are missing a very simple method.  A menu choice "Create article".  When
>called it would bring up a window with boxes for each of the header types (ie.
>Title:__________  Author:_______ etc.)  Only when that box is Okayed would you
>enter the editor itself (or perhaps just a prompt for a file name).

No, you are missing the point... the original concept was to take ANY ascii
file and convert it into a format usable by a system... what you're
describing is a editor -- get the use of the word, edit?  I agree that this
concept you describe IS "very simple" BUT it does NOT address the original
problem (reading a raw ascii file completely automatically, with NO user
prompting at all...) 

>This way the person can just write a raw article, and have the flags prompted
>for.This makes it alot easier on the writer, and allows lots more flags to be
>added without imposing an extra burden of memorizing them all.

Again, I agree than for an editor, this would be slick... but once you
impose any type of rules or dialog boxes or prompts, then it's not automatic!!

I understand your suggestion, and agree that it's what I plan on doing
(providing a simple dialog box where they type in the title, author(s),
summary, date, etc, and then take them to a full-screen editor, from which
they can insert, delete, merge, cut-n-paste, etc)...  but, it doesn't
address the original, automatic-only, point I was trying to make.

Anyone see any ways that we could add a COMPLETELY AUTOMATIC method?
(I guess this confusion came about because I wasn't clear enough in stating
that it's very tricky to program a fully automatic system; doing this
field-prompting/text editor stuff is child's play...)

Steve
... swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu

Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: drw@euclid.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley)
Subject: Re: Socrates (was Re: Warning signs)
Organization: MIT Dept. of Tetrapilotomy, Cambridge, MA, USA
	<1992Jul23.034645.19771@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Jul23.172144.29326@midway.uchicago.edu>
	<1992Jul23.193102.17134@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<DRW.92Jul27110910@kronecker.mit.edu>
	<92210.023300U56503@uicvm.uic.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:12:05 GMT

In article <92210.023300U56503@uicvm.uic.edu> U56503@uicvm.uic.edu (Brady Woodward) writes:
   > /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\
   ><--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X--X-->
   > \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/
   >   Official Argyle Mail Trailer

   Dale Worley wins the creative signature of the week award hereby bestowed
   on him.  The award: a free "lifetime" subscription to a.s.h.  ;))
   (Of course, it is difficult to tell exactly how long this subscription
   will run, but it will always be entirely free for the duration.  Congrats!)

Sadly, I just decline the offer, because I cribbed it from somewhere.
The philosophical source, however, is my girlfriend, who introduced me
to the esthetic pleasures of Argyle socks...

Dale

Dale Worley		Dept. of Math., MIT		drw@math.mit.edu
--
The kids these days!  It used to be, "I didn't know Paul McCartney was
in a band before Wings."  Now, it's, "Who's Paul McCartney?"
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com (David Butler)
Subject: Re: Suicide Pacts
Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<=
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:29:27 GMT

In article <AZATHOTH.92Jul27234123@lighthouse.caltech.edu> azathoth@lighthouse.caltech.edu (Azathoth the Mad) writes:
>how do you wind up in a mental ward or something?  i guess what i mean is,
>what forces you to undergo psychotherapy?  if you haven't commited a crime
>it seems as if you are being persecuted.

>Azathoth the Mad };>

   If a psychotherapist decides that someone is a potential danger to
themselves or others they can be locked up against their will.  If a family
member thinks that you are a danger to yourself or others and can convince a
psychiatrist that they are right you can be locked up against your will.
This puts a lot of unconstitutional power into the hands of someone over the
lives of others, but so far it hasn't been abused to the point that there is
any sort of outcry over the practice (probably the majority of people locked
up involuntarily are in some need of mental health care.)

-- 
****************************************************************************
* Dave                          *               The Alpinist               *
* alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com *            DARE to be stoopid!           *
****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: rath@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Lurking (was RE: Winter Depression?)
Reply-To: rath@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:35:13 GMT

In article 
<1992Jul30.174542.10131@nntp.uoregon.edu>, 
jjcox@oregon.uoregon.edu (Joshua Cox) writes:
>
>Sounds like you get pretty nasty come winter.  Hope none of you are 
>paranoid, 'cause I plan to lurk about for a while.

paranoid is when you *know* taht the person in front of you is following you.
--rich, who's not paranoid, who wants to know?
>
>-Josh
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: drw@euclid.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley)
Subject: Re: Depressed=submissive
Organization: MIT Dept. of Tetrapilotomy, Cambridge, MA, USA
	<1992Jul29.122421.8653@rock.concert.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:23:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.122421.8653@rock.concert.net> evans@jazz.concert.net (Larry Evans) writes:
   I know a man who just took his life and I'm wondering what
   happens to his debts.  He was legally separated from
   his wife and has joint custody of his two children.  I
   think he had life insurance policy through the company
   he worked for four years.  Does his estranged wife pick
   up his debts, his parents or does the life insurance
   policy pay off the debts first. 

Legally, "your debts die with you".  However, "you" continue in legal
existance as "your estate", which winds down your affairs and then
distributes your property to your heirs according to your will (or the
default will provided by The State).  So your debts get charged
against your assets; the remainder (if any) goes to your heirs.
If your debts are larger than your assets, your creditors get to eat
the difference.

However, if your debts are owed jointly by you and another person, the
other person can be forced to pay off the remainder.  Life insurance
is another matter -- it depends on whether it is payable to the estate
(in which case it goes into the estate and pays off debts) or to
another person (in which case your creditors don't get any of it).

Marriage adds another layer of complexity, because some of the assets
can be held jointly between the spouses, and some of the debts may be
jointly owed.  How legal seperation affects this, I haven't any
idea...

If you're going to off yourself, and you own little property, go on a
final spree until you max out your credit cards!

If it really matters, ask a lawyer.

Dale

Dale Worley		Dept. of Math., MIT		drw@math.mit.edu
--
Go ahead, make my night!	-- lapel button
From: azathoth@lighthouse.caltech.edu (Azathoth the Mad)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Suicide Pacts
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:41:23 GMT
	<1992Jul24.191651.16268@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Jul26.225414.11030@linus.mitre.org>
	<1992Jul27.020044.6936@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<16831A70B.EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: The very doorstep of Hell

how do you wind up in a mental ward or something?  i guess what i mean is,
what forces you to undergo psychotherapy?  if you haven't commited a crime
it seems as if you are being persecuted.
--
Azathoth the Mad };>
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
    	and with strange eons even Death may die..."   -H.P. Lovecraft
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday