HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: A square grand
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:42:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.233735.16822@sequent.com>, rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>Well, luckily the Prez has no direct control over the Fed.  Anyway, it
>is alot more complicted than just screwing with the Fed....  And a
>certain amount of inflation is good, means the economy is growing.

With all due respect, BULLSHIT!  Or perhaps you can explain why a rise in all
prices means "the economy is growing" in any useful sense?  I'd rank that
particular piece of voodoo macroeconomics right up there with the one that
became so famous in the '70's:  It's impossible to have a recession while
you've got inflation.

>One thing nasty about the nature of the economy is that you either
>have low interest rates and lower (relativly speaking) prices and alot
>of unemployment, which is not good because of the stagnation of the
>economy, or you have a fast growing economy with high inflation, and
>lower unemployment.  So if you are going to put all these people back
>to work, no matter how you do it, you are going to have a higher
>inflation rate.  The hard part is trying to balance the two, and no
>one that I know of has been able to do that, in peace time anyway.

Again, bullshit.  You're not talking about inflation here, you're talking about
the relative cost of labor.  There's a hell of a lot of difference between
having inflation and having relatively cheap labor.
From: yho@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Yue-shun E. Ho)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Libertarianism
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:54:03 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services

In article <tljn#bq.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>
>Vitamin A can be toxic in large doses, but the company selling vitamins
>fails to disclose this information to you.  How to redress the problem?

Many things done in "excess" can be harmful, including having sex and chewing
  gum.  You probably don't want to take Vitamin A in the animal form in
  excess of 10,000 IU; but Beta Carotene, the plant form of Vitamin A, has been
  proved to be quite harmless, even up to 50,000 IU.  However, there is not
  a common agreement of what the upper limits are.

silly yue-shun
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: GE.LJB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Louis J Bookbinder)
Subject: another one I missed
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:27:03 GMT

KLUNKSANDKLONGS

Nick finds another birthday note which fell through a crack somewhere.
"Please to wish a satisfactory natal anniverary to..."

Wales Larrison          wales.larrison@ofa123.fidonet.org       Sept 11, 1955
 -                      Good beers (Watney's, Sam Adams, Anchor
 -                      Steam, etc), and fine wines (usually
 -                      California burgundies)

<HEEEEEPEEEEEE BEEEEEDEEEEE  TOOOOOOOO YOOOOOOOOOOOU>
<HEEEEEPEEEEEE BEEEEEDEEEEE  TOOOOOOOO YOOOOOOOOOOOU>
<HEEEEEPEEEEEE BEEEEEDEEEEE  HEEEEEPEEEEEE BEEEEEDEEEEE>
<HEEEEEPEEEEEE BEEEEEDEEEEE  TOOOOOOOO YOOOOOOOOOOOU!> (Stan bows)

Nick Chopper - my opinion? ax not! LB>-}  BOOKY@Forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lunisea@netcom.com (Stephanie Alford)
Subject: Re: In which SEA gets a job
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 15:48:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep2.035342.19894@cco.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <CEO.92Sep1214816@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, ceo@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chip Olson) writes:
>>In article <!#jn06g.lunisea@netcom.com> lunisea@netcom.com (Stephanie Alford) writes:
>>
>>>"Oh, I guess that I should tell you what I will be doing.  Wollongong
>>>Group writes networking software for all sorts of platforms.  I will be
>>>spending half-time doing customer phone support and half-time doing
>>>administrative assistant support.  It is an opportunity to learn about
>>>different operating systems and about networking software.  I will be
>>>working closely with engineers again, which is what made me answer the
>>>ad in the newspaper.  I start Thursday (9/3) morning.  I'm excited, they're
>>>excited,  life is good."
>>
>>Castellan gives SEA a congratulatory hug. "Welcome to the fun-filled world
>>of phone support!  MWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....... :-)"
>
>StM suddenly turns very pale, and says, "Maybe I'd better let Carl field this
>one," whereupon he is suddenly replaced by Carl.
>
>"I'd read SEA's post, but it didn't quite sink in at the time, at least not its
>full implications:  Phone support at TWG, home of vaporware for VMS.  SEA, I DO
>NOT envy you your new job.
Gee whiz STM, I haven't even started the job and you're already bashing it.  
Thanks for the support.



Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mdm@SPARC2.PRIME.COM (Michael D. McAfee)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: the dark elf's author uses the Doctor's form
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:57:37 GMT


 
 	Well, let's see how this goes.

Current Name:	Michael McAfee
Alter Ego:	the dark elf (Callahans, Dragon's Inn, HoloMuck)
		Christian von Jauregg (SCA)
Birth Date:	7/14/69
Birthplace:	Atlanta, GA (but I was only there a year, so I don't 
			remember anything about it)
Residence:	Boston area
Sex:		every now and then
Gender:		male
Sexual Orientation:	hetero for now, but I have been finding guys
			to be cute lately
Marital Status:		single
Offspring:		none that I know of
Siblings:		two sisters and a half-brother
Blood type:		don't know
Hair:			long, straight, unkempt, dark brown
Eyes:			brown, varies from light to dark
Height:			just short of six feet
Dominant Brain Hemisphere:	yes
Physical Deformities:		not sexy enough
Music Preferences:		quirky stuff, mostly post-punk
				(last album purchased:  Big Lizard in
					my Backyard by the Dead Milkmen)
Favourite Books:		SF, reference books
				(last book purchased:  Dream Park by
					Larry Niven and Steven Barnes)
Pet Peeves:			politics, intoxicated people
Favourite Movies:		quirky stuff, mostly Burton, Demme, Lynch, 
					Gilliam, et al.
				(e.g., The Blues Brothers, Beetlejuice,
					The Adventures of Baron Munchausen)
Least Favourite Activities:	being bored
Most Favourite Activities:	creating, in any medium
Quotes that can be attributed to me:	"I love it.  'tis much better
					than a play about cats."
					"Look.  Younglings.  Let's corrupt
					them."
					"The opposite of down." (when asked
					what's up)
Hobbies:		creating (in any medium)
			SCA stuff (fencing, archery, dancing, storytelling)
Political affiliation:	anarchist
Allergies:		insect stings
Occupation:		contract engineer
Favourite Foods:	fried chicken, pork chops, most non-cheese pasta
				dishes
What I regret most:	my awkward social development
Favourite TV shows:	Ren and Stimpy, 120 Minutes
			but this will change when the fall season starts
Parting words:		"Tar tar, which means I hope you have raw steak."
			"Pasta manana, which means I hope you have spaghetti
				tomorrow."
			"Aardvark, which means I hope you have ants."

		Gosh, that wasn't so bad after all.

	Michael, the Chaotic
	disclaimer: I would have to be a fool to give you all this info
			about myself then say something my employers
			could be sued for.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: bucknerb@bnr.ca (Brent Buckner)
Subject: Re: anchovies and a filk
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 00:11:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.212717.23124@bnr.ca> bucknerb@bnr.ca (Brent Buckner) writes:
>In article <RANDOLPH.92Aug21163400@cognito.EBay.Sun.COM> randolph@cognito.EBay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz) writes:
>>Please tell us about the @ party!
>>
>>__Randolph Fritz  sun!cognito.ebay!randolph || randolph@ebay.sun.com
>
>It's being run by Brad Templeton (moderator of rec.arts.humor, 
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^
						    humor.funny
>all-around net.personality).  Check rec.arts.sf.fandom for
>updates (also, the MagiCon schedule just appeared there).
>

Colin McGregor is arranging for some hardware.
I don't think that the date has been set (it was still under
discussion last week).

The panel "Don't Pass the Bar--Tall Tales in
Fictional SF Settings" with panelist Spider Robinson may be
another rendezvous for alt.callahanians.  It's in the Convention
Center, starting at 3pm on Friday.  Unfortunately, it goes up
against a Filk Concert in the Peabody with Rhodri James(!), and
ten other panels I would also like to attend.

Perhaps after the Hugos would be a good time for a RealSpace.
-- 
at Bell-Northern Research
voice:        (613) 765-2739
Canada Post:  P.O. Box 3511, Station C, Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7
I do not claim that BNR holds these views.  
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From: dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood)
Subject: Re: Quote Happens [Time]
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:52:02 GMT

Mentor writes:
>    When Thoreau was writing, it was still almost practical for a family farm
>  to support itself, almost totally independent of society, of barter or trade.
>  But his friend clearly demonstrates that an illusion of dependence *within*
>  the web of society and economy had already emerged.
>    This is where I disagree with the most rabid net.libertarians.  Their
>  concept of independence and individual liberty is based on outright denial
>  of the web of society and economy.  It may still be *possible* to live in
>  America outside of this web, but I wouldn't call it *practical*, and I sure
>  wouldn't agree that anyone with net.access *is* living outside the web!

I don't know any libertarians like that.  (Well, I wouldn't, would I?)  All
the rabid libertarians I know worship the market, and you can't have a
market on a desert island.  What the market economy has to do with taxes and
regulations on vitamins, I don't know.

Harry Browne wrote (I think, though I couldn't find the line when I looked
for it):  "Everyone is different.  This is good, because it makes the world
orderly."  He might have added, "...and rich."
I, for example, benefit from the existence of people who write better than I
do, not to mention people who *like* to cook . . . .

Opinions mine, but available for lease at easy terms.
-- 
D Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* +1 415 664 2229
Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt)
Subject: H'llo Mike!
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 20:15:30 GMT

-- A new face walks in. At least I think he walked in. Didn't seem to
notice the door opening though. He's about 6 ft tall, 180 pounds, maybe 35
years old or so. Walks like he has some sort of martial arts training. Sort
of a smoothly rolling gait. He has brown hair that's thinning on top, and a
full beard that more than makes up the difference. Leather jacket, jeans
(clean), and a small grey notebook computer on a shoulder strap hanging
back over his right hip pocket. He looks quickly around, listens for a
moment, and breaks into a huge grin. Walks straight to the bar and speaks
with a West Coast accent . . .

"Well H'llo Mike,

It's good to see the gang having a merry time. Make it a Jamesons, neat.
Thanks. Just noticed where the door appeared, and I can't stay long. But
now that I've found my favorite watering hole, you can bet I'll be back.

Don't recongnze me? No matter. Name's Jason. I'm more often somewhere in
the wiring than here where folk can see me. I'll say more about myself, and
have a few to toss in for Punday sometime soon. Oh well, (tosses down the
rest of the glass as if it were just water) gotta jack out. See ya soon!"

He reaches to the small notebook computer, and presses a button on the top
edge. Fades rapidly from sight with a soft "Ping!"

"Hmmm. Nice Hologram." says Mike.

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From: steve@Advansoft.COM (Steve Savitzky)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: My list
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:48:56 GMT
	<1992Sep2.173129.7900@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Organization: Advansoft Research Corp, Santa Clara, CA

"I had one of my first posts quoted in somebody's .sig," says the
Mandelbear.  "Something to the effect of 'I hate arbitrary limits,
especially when they're small.'  It came from a discussion of
operating systems.

"And 'FREE CYBERIA!' has gotten itself spread around some, at least
here in Callahans."
--
\ --Steve Savitzky--  \    343 Leigh Ave   \ Object-oriented software wizard
 \ steve@advansoft.COM \ San Jose, CA 95128 \ Presently seeking employment:
  \ arc!steve@apple.COM \   h:408-294-6492   \ Resume available on request.
   \__ steve@arc.UUCP _____ w:408-727-3357x246 (9am-6pm) _____________________
From: ceo@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chip Olson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Return fron vacation
Date: 24 Aug 92 04:16:11 GMT
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.

Castellan wanders in looking a little sunburned.  This comes as a surprise
to the other patrons, who hadn't seen him leave.  "You've been somewhere 
where it was sunny out, I gather?" calls one fellow with a keen grasp of the
obvious.  "Minnesota, to be exact", replies Castellan, picking up a Pete's
Wicked Ale from Mike. "I've been at an annual week-long conference of Uni-
tarian-Universalist young adults, and had myself an absolute blast.  Will
talk more about it later when I've decompressed some."

--
-Chip Olson. | ceo@silver.lcs.mit.edu | ceo@gnu.ai.mit.edu 
"PROUD SPONSORS OF THOSE WHO CARRY THE TORCH"  -banner on US Post Office
across from burned-out block of stores in south-central LA.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: neilb@physics.su.OZ.AU (RiemannZeta(s))
Subject: Re: Another Limerick
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:44:33 GMT

A favourite thing of mine
A new value of Pi to assign
I'd fix it at three
For its simpler you see
than 3.14159


Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood)
Subject: Re: who are these folks? (P'relan)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:47:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.220201.15795@ttinews.tti.com> hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.185221.12115@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (P'relan) writes:
>
>}... (why is pounds abbreviated lbs?)...
>
>From the Latin:  Librium.

I assume that's a pun, but it's beyond my feeble comprehension.  The Latin
for `pound' is LIBRA.
-- 
D Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* +1 415 664 2229
Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: cevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (clay evans)
Subject: Hey, hey, hey
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:36:28 GMT

Hey, this is another test of my new account. Sorry.

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: who are these folks? (P'relan)
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 31 Aug 92 06:16:34 GMT

dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.220201.15795@ttinews.tti.com> hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug12.185221.12115@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (P'relan) writes:
>>
>>}... (why is pounds abbreviated lbs?)...
>>
>>From the Latin:  Librium.

>I assume that's a pun, but it's beyond my feeble comprehension.  The Latin
>for `pound' is LIBRA.
>-- 
>D Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* +1 415 664 2229
>Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district

Isn't libra the plural of librium?  Being neutral gender, the ending is -um for
singular and -a for plural.

Splash!
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Libertarianism
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:48:18 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <BttMAr.F7@well.sf.ca.us> dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood) writes:
>Mentor writes:
>>
>>    [deleted]
>
>I don't know any libertarians like that.  (Well, I wouldn't, would I?)  All
>the rabid libertarians I know worship the market, and you can't have a
>market on a desert island.  What the market economy has to do with taxes and
>regulations on vitamins, I don't know.

This last statement of yours, particularly taken out of context, is one
of the main reasons I don't care much for the Libertarian party.  I've
got some questions for you, let's see if we can get a meaningful
dialogue going without too much rhetoric (anyone else familiar with
Libertarian philosophy is also free to answer):

As I understand it, Libertarians believe that less government is better.
However, there are some services that need to be provided by a
centralized resource (aka "government).  {If you feel the need to argue
this point, we can handle it separately.}

What I have yet to see is a good model for determining when government
intervention is required, without allowing the feeping creaturism in all
current forms of government.  Let's take your statement about taxes and 
vitamins as an example:

Vitamin A can be toxic in large doses, but the company selling vitamins
fails to disclose this information to you.  How to redress the problem?
If you have a government-run court system, then that requires taxes if
you select "fair and equitable access to courts" as a criterion.  If you
attempt to regulate the vitamin industry, that too requires taxes.

What's the solution?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

So much Astroglide.  So little time.
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From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Subject: Re: A square grand
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:00:27 GMT

> "All right, here's a new game for you all.  What would you do if you had a
>million dollars?  After taxes--you won the lottery, you inherited it from a
>long-lost uncle, whatever.  You have a million dollars--heck, two million or
>ten million.  More money than you could possibly get rid of without buying most
>of a city or Van Gogh's "Sunflowers".  So, what do you do?

>"Here's what I would do.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Preparations...
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:39:03 GMT

"Dark glasses?"

"Check."

"Long, dark coat?"

"Check."

"Face-concealing hat?"

"Check."

"Silly sign?"

"Check."

"Right. To the airport, then!"

- Danger Mouse.
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:40:54 -0400 
From: John Charles Fiala <jf2z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Another Limerick
	<8eZwTby00awA03J21R@andrew.cmu.edu>

Gosh!

Limericks, hm?  here's a few.

The first was composed for a character I play on a mud, who, at the time,
had the some-what annoying habit of dropping refrigerators, toon-style,
on top of people's heads, out of nowhere.

Leona's a dangerous gal!
You might think you've become her pal,
But if her rights you abridge
You get struck with a 'fridge,
And you're suddenly feeling tres mal!

And a nice math one:

The integral of z squared dz
From one to the cube root of three
Times the cosine
Of three pi by nine
is the log of the cube root of e

That seems to be it for now...

-john
"Yes, [AIDS] is probably a message from God.  It's God trying
to show us how mean a healthy man can be to a sick man."
jf2z+@andrew.cmu.edu	-- Joe Bob Briggs
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From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: RealSpace!  RealSpace!  (maybe?)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:37:24 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

I'm going to be taking a trip at the beginning of October to visit my
ProblemOlderWoman's parents in Detroit.  We will also be travelling to
Toronto for a few days, and we'd like to meet whatever Callahanians are
accessible in either of those two cities.

I'll be arriving in Detroit Sept. 30, going to Toronto Oct. 1, back to
Detroit on Oct. 4, and leaving the evening of the 5th.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

So much Astroglide.  So little time.
From: eesshlgb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (S H L G Bisson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Formulaic Description
Keywords: lock, yale, bolt
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:16:56 GMT
Organization: School of Electrical Engineering, University of Bath, UK

The Cartoon Mouse, in yet another, though this time somewhat appropriate,
fit of wumpusitis, looks down at The Wumpus' census (censored?) form...

>Current Name: Jim Cheetham
>Alter Ego: The Wumpus (was Jim Hacker, P.M.)
>Birth Date: 6 June 1968
>Residence: Bracknell, Royal Berkshire, England
>Birthplace: (Don't let Ignatz see this bit) Nuneaton, England. Not Guernsey!

"Oh dearie me, mon vieux, tut, tut, tut... So the truth will out, eh? From
the other side no less, him, eh? By cri, Stone De Croze will be taking your
Guernsey away, him..."

Ignatz grins.

"Don't worry, I won't tell anyone... Look, I've forgotten already..."

A close look into his eyes will spot a line of control H's passing neatly
behind the carefully inked pupils.

"Er, Wumpus, what _have_ I forgotten?"

There's still a smile on the face of the Cartoon Mouse as he returns to his
drink, and the proof of the new James Gleick book about Richard Feynmann that
he's managed to acquire...

---=-
Ignatz Mouse/Simon H. Le Gros Bisson...net.jerriais on the loose..............
-=---
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