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From: walaj@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Waland J F)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Moving 500 to 1200, BAD NEWS
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: walaj@essex.ac.uk (Waland J F)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <36624@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
>hilton@bahtat.dec.com writes:
>>I've waited so long for this 1200 to arrive, I honestly don't know how much
>>longer I can wait for some 3rd party to PERHAPS help me out.
>
>Maybe someone can help you out.  The cost will not be small.  However,
>your A500 is still a usable machine and as such it may be best to just keep
>it in working order and use the A1200 as a new machine.
>
>|      /// Michael Sinz  -  Senior Amiga Systems Engineer              |
>|     ///                   Operating System Development Group         |
>|    ///   BIX:  msinz      UUNET:  mks@cbmvax.commodore.com           |

Why do you think we got a A500 in the first place!!! Because we couldn't afford
anything more expensive at the time. If I get a A1200 I can't afford to keep
the A500, and will (try) sell for the highest price I can get!

The whole problem
do we keep the A500 and spend what little money we have on upgrading it
(eventually) to a faster proccessor etc, and make do without the AGA chips, a
fully 32-bit system throughout, AmigaDOS 3.0 etc OR do we sell the A500, and
all (or any) hardware that won't work on the A1200, for a faster machine,
that has a better chipset, BUT uses (as far as I know) a PCMIA (or whatever it
is called!) for all its major expansions (which at the moment are very expensive
) and has a slow IDE hard disk interface which won't allow me to use my SCSI
hard drive?


Jonathan
(walaj@essex.ac.uk)
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From: Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried Krueger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: VW (was: Re: Amiga 1200)
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:26:48 GMT
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:

>In article <1ctmi9INNaiu@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:

>>I just got the GIF pic of the a1200 ...
>>What an uglyness !!! 

>>ps : hell ! nobody would buy Ferraris if they looked like VW .

>But Ferrari sells maybe a thousand cars a year.  VolksWagon sells millions
>(or at least they did at their prime, don't know these days).  Actually,
>VW is a good analogy, as they're about the only major car company that
>still ignores the look of their sheet metal, now that Toyota has finally
>come around.  The "flat" machine is a proven way to make the lowest cost
>low end machine.  The look has to be secondary to the price.

VW is still selling millions of cars, as far as I recall
they are tho most successful car vendor here in Europe. In the meantime
they changed to pay attention to the look of their products...

>-- 
>Dave Haynie / Commodore Technology, High-End Amiga Systems Design (cool stuff)
> "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
>If you think "George Bush" is the answer, you just don't understand the question

winnie.
From: denson@sdd.hp.com (Craig Denson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Does HP Deskwriter = Deskjet?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 13:32:16 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdln.sdd.hp.com

In article <Bxo9Fr.18K@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.170659.1609@news2.cis.umn.edu> tim@lenti.med.umn.edu (Tim Leonard) writes:
>>to a laserwriter and wants to sell her Deskwriter.  Is the 
>>DeskWRITER the same as the DeskJET (except for a cable or
>>something else simple)?  I want to use it on my A500.
>
>   No.  The DeskWriter only has an AppleTalk connector, no parallel or
>RS-232 serial connectors, and no text modes (it's all graphics).  

 unfortunately, i have to agree with mark, ouch :) (Tim, you'll have to
disregard what i mailed you - it'll only work on a PaintWriter XL
300). Some minor points: DeskWriter will autosense and can talk
RS422 or RS232 - at a fixed 56K baud. It has one font for printing error
messages and a very small subset of PCL for printing rasters and
setting compression modes. ( I guess you could write a driver for it,
that rasterizes everything. A lot of work, though.) 

craig denson


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: 10 MB fastram onb a2000: technical question
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:20:35 GMT
Reply-To: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Mime-Version: 1.0X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16g (10.31.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Universitt Bielefeld, Technische Fakultt

In article <frits.721490862@galaxy> frits@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Frits Kuijlman) writes:
> Recently I saw in the German Amiga magazin an add from WAW Elektronik
> where they advertised a chipram expander for the a500/a2000 that also
> had an extra 2 MB on board with which you can get a total of 10 MB Fastram.

 Well, the are not the only ones selling such an add. As you need the 2 MB
 Agnus and need a trick to adress Denise, too, those cards have the Agnus,
 1 MB and some critters on it.

>
> I have no plans at all of buying it, but I am interested in how they might
> have done it. If I read the hardware manual(1.3) I have at home correctly
> the memory map of the a500/a2000 allows for 8 MB fastram, 2 MB chipram and
> the rest is reserved for chip registers and so on. Where might they have put
> the extra 2 MB fastram?

 It's on the card. They use the 2MB Aguns of course, too.

>
> I know this is possible with a bigger processor, but if I read the add
> correctly they intend it for the standard a500/a2000 with a 68000 processor.

 No need for a bigger CPU.

>
> Just curious,
>     Frits
> --
> Frits Kuijlman                      frits @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl
> Delft University of Technology               The Netherlands

 Have care, there are several adds for thoise ram-adds.
 Compare the prices, i found one for 299.-DM on the CSS Fair.

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From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: does this device exist?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 14:02:34 GMT
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In article <69221@cup.portal.com>, joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:
>
> Transcoding baseband video to RGB won't be cheap.  The unit must break the
> video into 3 descrete colors and output them.  The Sunrize color splitter
> does this, but only on one color at a time.  I can do it with my VideoMaster
> Genlock (transcodes Y/C and composite video as RGB, composite or Y/C) but
> that unit runs around $1000. 8-/

Not so. All colour TVs incorporate such circuitry, to build a standalone
composite->RGB decoder unit would cost about $50 for the parts, maybe a bit
more if you needed an external power supply.

Genlocks of course have much more in them than just that.


Steve

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SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
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From: watters@cranel.com (David Watters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: amiga 1200 specs - fr
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:08:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cranel.1992Nov6.150807.1520
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cranel, Incorporated, Worthington Ohio

In article <10013@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:

>Reality check please!!! Take a look at an A4000: Ok, it has four slots.
>Making this two, it could get a little less case height, but the you get
>difficulties with the power supply. In other words: With this sort of
>expansion, a case of A4000 size *is* *full*! I don't see a chance how to
>fit all this stuff in a case like the A1000, which is ca. half of that
>height.
>Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...

I think it is painfully clear that Commodore, and any other computer
manufacturer could gain a few things by looking at the insides of a 
Sun IPX.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: rsc@flower.hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Subject: Re: Picking up HAM radio transmissions on A3000
Reply-To: rsc@flower.hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Organization: High Altitude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:44:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.204721.29310@news.uiowa.edu>, thieleke@icaen.uiowa.edu (Jeffrey Ray Thieleke) writes:
> rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell) writes:
> 
> >My father has a HAM radio with a serial port.  He bought it under the presumption
> >that he had seen a program that allows you to connect HAM Radio via the
> >serial port, and tune in on the weather satellites.  
> 
> This kinda defeats the purpose, but anonymous FTP site, vmd.cso.uiuc.edu,
> has the latest weather satellite images.
> 

No, the program we remember hearing about puts the image on the screen as
its receiving the data.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sal@pacdata.uucp (Sal Quintanilla)
Subject: XT-1000 XT Keyboard-to-A1000 Cable
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:20:40 GMT

I bought this connector from a swap meet.  It's an RJ-11 (or
RJ-22, or whatever the 4-contact telephone-type connector is
labeled) connected to a 5 pin din socket.  At the time, I
couldn't open it up, but I bought it (I didn't mind losing $3.00
too much) and opened it, and it's nothing more than a straight
connection (i.e. no "diode/inverter signal massagers").

The person selling them (along with other legitimate Amiga
peripherals) said that it had to be an XT keyboard.

Should this cable work?  Is the XT keyboard that electronically
close to the A1000 keyboard?

For what it worth, it's connected as follows:

		 3 .                   2 <-> Black
    	     2.        . 4             3 <-> Green
           1 .   Back   . 5            4 <-> Yellow
                                       5 <-> Red
		   .   

Unfortunately, I don't have an XT keyboard handy to just try it.
I did try an IBM PC keyboard, and clumps of characters were being
written to the CLI as I typed (but not the characters I typed, and
only 3-4 different characters total, despite the different keys I
hit).

So what do you think:  Fact or Fiction?

Thanks.
Sal
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Is a 6mb 1200 available???
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:42:38 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
: In article <1992Nov4.120216.1453@decuk.uvo.dec.com> hilton@bahtat.dec.com writes:
: > 
: > So I started off thinking I couldn't move my SIMMS 
: > and SCSI drive to a 1200.
: > 
: > Thanks to all the replies, I'm now reconsidering, and
: > my brother may well buy my 500 of me :^)
: > 
: > If I wait for the SCSI controller for a 1200, then 
: > I would want to buy a fully loaded 1200 with the 32 bit 
: > memory on board, ie 2mb Chip, 4mb Fast.
: > 
: > Is this available yet? How much?
: > 
: > My local dealer said they had nothing at the moment,
: > but they do have a 1200 in!
: 
: At this point, nothing is available in the US and the machine has
: just hit retail in the UK within the last week.  I would expect a
: month or two delay before expansion slot peripherals really start
: to pop up, though someone could come up with a basic memory
: expansion or '030 card real quick and surprise me.
 
2MB PCMCIA cards are available, but I haven't seen any 4MB's.

-- 
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 Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden
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From: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Peter Ingham)
Subject: Parity (Was Re: Moving 500 to 1200, BAD NEWS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:29:24 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Site

Dale Luck (dale@ntg.com) wrote:
> 
> As opposed to just starting to do funny things, or silently corrupt
> your data and harddisk. Oh? that bit that just flipped state turned a
> read into a write. Oh well.
> 

At last, a professional speaks!!!!


> I'd would much rather be told that I had a memory failure as soon as
> I accessed that piece of memory than to find out a little later
> that something went wrong and maybe blame it on buggy software.

Or a situation I experienced where a disk had a strange corruption on it.
The fault was finally tracked down to a single bit error in main memory.

This single bit (hard zero) got itself replicated throughout the disk after a 
disk optimiser had been used.  The only problem was that comparatively few bits 
got changed, and by the time the site was SURE there was something wrong,  the 
problem had got itslef into all 5 generations of the backup.

Fixing the bad bit took very little time, and cost next to nothing.

The errors in the users prime databases are probably still being fixed and could 
well have led to being the downfall of the company.


> Parity memory is a necessity in any environment where security of
> data is needed. Todays DRAMs are still succeptible to the occasional
> alpha particle hit to knock those electrons around, especially in
> the high density drams that do not have that much charge in those wells
> to maintain the state of a memory cell.
> 

People who run without any Parity should also run without backups if they're THAT 
confident of the reliability of their systems ....

> EDC would be even better however the cost can be prohibitive.

EDC??

> 
> Dale Luck
> GfxBase
> 


Are there any plans for Parity on any future Amiga's ????

--

Cheers

    Peter S. Ingham              ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand     3:771/220.5
From: cikp14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Flicker fixer for A4000
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:08:50 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Is there a flicker fixer coming out for the new A4000 that will flicker fix
all resoultions in 24bit or at least 640x400 (640x5120). I hear that there
might be a flicker fixer coming out that fixes 1280x400 but is there one
coming out for the A4000.

Si.
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A3000T Power switch query
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:48:56 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm) writes:
: I just bought myself a 3000T (early Christmas present 'cos they're soooo
: cheap here just now), and I've got a couple of problems with it already.
: 
: i) The Power switch seems to be very dodgy. i.e. it doesn't always switch off
: when I want it to. Is there some connection between the power switch and the
: lock perhaps? (It seems to help if I turn the key in the lock), or is my switch
: just sticky?
 
My power switch is just normal, so you may have a problem with yours.

: ii) What the hell is the "lacer" program I found in the tools drawer? I can't
: find any reference to it in the Manuals, and it doesn't seem to do *anything*
: when I run it.
 
I beleive it's to force interlaced (for instance when you want to record
the signal on video). If you have your monitor connected to the de-interlacer
you will of course not notice anything.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: watters@cranel.com (David Watters)
Subject: Re: I've seen the 1200
Organization: Cranel, Incorporated, Worthington Ohio
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:01:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.145952.13270@decuk.uvo.dec.com> hilton@bahtat.dec.com writes:

>4mb 32 bit fast memory in CPU slot, additional
>4mb of 16 bit in PCMCIA slot

Is PCMCIA 16bit???
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From: easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton)
Subject: Re: Amiga Networking?
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:04:26 GMT

In article <37017@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.183712.11344@wicat.com> gsarff@wicat.com (Gary Sarff) writes:
>>
>>There are arcnet cards that fit on the expansion port on an amiga 500
>>I have some of them.  I also have some that fit in a slot in the 2000.  This
>>is at work, but we have had the cards since at least mid 1988, when I was
>>hired, and a bit before that.  Part of a discontinued project to use amiga
>>500's as low cost color graphics terminals to run our educational courseware.
>>I have been trying to find out who made these cards and if they are 
>>compatible with any software, but have not had any success. 
>
>Are they just cards or are they in a metal box? Are they C= A560's?  If
>so, then the latest sana2developer.lzh archive that I _just_ sent to ESCO
>has an A2060 SANA-II driver that will work with those and allow you to run
>any SANA-II compliant software with them :)

  Who or what is ESCO?  How can us mere mortals get a copy?  Do you 
know of any SANA-II compliant software that is actually shipping? :-)

>       Brian Jackson    Amiga Networking Group, Commodore-Amiga Inc.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news. (was Re: Amiga 1200)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:57:17 GMT

In article <M5mXr*i41@dynam.adsp.sub.org>, jmpor@dynam.adsp.sub.org (Jean-Marc Porchet) writes:

 > Do you really think that  being able to buy any kind of gun is a freedom ?
 
In fact, why limit yourselves to guns?  What's wrong, with rocket launchers, flame
throwers, neutron bombs?  Hell, I can see it now...

***

[A dark alley.  Sound of high heels on tarmac.  A shadow looms into view]

[Innocent female, fearing an attack]:
"Don't move, buster, or Manhattan gets it!"

[Vile male attacker, drooling]:
"Uh, I was just wondering what time it..."

[Speed zoom/dissolve to satellite view of NY...  A point of light expands to fill
the screen.  Fade to black]

[Giant text]:
"Another victory of truth, justice and the American way."

[Small text, bottom of screen]:
"This message brought to you courtesy of the American Women's League Against Rape.
United we stand!"

***

 > PS : forgive my bad English, I'm still trying to learn it

Hell, on THIS net, you get flamed even if your English is perfect (are you
listening, zb?)

 > Jean-Marc "JUMP" Porchet                             Phone : (41) 22-754-1733

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From: snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Multiprocessing
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:14:53 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: snm6394@ultb

To folks at CBM:

Are there any plans for a multiprocessing or RISC based Amiga?  My last
rendering took 25 hours on Lightwave 3-D on a 030/882-25 MHz Amiga for
just one frame.  I hear that the Amiga is capable of multi-threaded
operations.  Will this allow use of symmetric multiprocessing?  Will
there be much changes to the software for this to happen?  How about
RISC chips?  Windows NT (And rumors of OS/2) is starting to look nice
with these features.  Can't wait next year for a DEC Alpha based machine
running Windows NT at 200-400 mips and mflops at regular workstation
prices.  How about graphics copprocessors?  Silicon Graphics has them
for their Iris Crimson workstations that renders in real-time with an
almost ray-traced quality.  But its way out of reach at over $100,000.
Will the 68060 systems be multiprocessesing?  Can the 68040 systems be
multiprocessing?  Radius has such boards for 68040 multiprocessing on
Macintoshes.  Already maximum performance on the macintosh has exceeded
the Amigas in ray tracing with the Radius boards.  Help us videographers
out here.  25 hours is a whole day of not doing work on the computer.

Just a few thoughts from a bored videographer.

Bobby Mozumder
From: stuart@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Stuart R. Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy size in 1200?
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:57:03 GMT
Reply-To: Mike_Noreen@anet.bbs.bad.se (Mike Noreen)
Organization: Drexel U. - CCD - E4

In article <36692@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George
Robbins) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.185053.44366@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
2ftqkiln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>> In article <36617@cbmvax.commodore.com>, grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George
Robbins) writes:
>> > In article <1992Nov2.090012.44313@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> >Arghh, I post a
simple answer and get a petite diatribe in return.  I'll admit
>that a HD floppy would be nice, perhaps very nice, but I'm not sure whether
>it is really essential on a machine with a built-in hard drive capability.
>
>Is this really a buy/no-buy point for you?
>
  
  While it might not be a buy/no-buy point, it does affect the impression of
the machine and it's compatibility with other machines that use HD floppies as
standard. Case in point, when I take work home for my office Mac, I have to
pull out DD disks, instead of the HD floppies I that I use to exchange data
with the other MAC users.