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From: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: RE: WHY WOULD SOME RACQUE
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:57:00 GMT
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Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 

-> A widebody
-> makes it much easier for a beginner to pick up the game and start
-> enjoying it and playing well in a greatly reduced time over
-> conventional
-> beam designs.
->
-> Not disagreeing, but are you basing this on experience or is this a
-> theoretical judgement.  Either way, what makes it easier?

Both.  I have tried playing tennis with several racquets and find that a
widebody - and this is to be distinguished from oversized - is more
stable and forgiving than a conventional beam racquet.  As I have gotten
more experienced, I have used a conventional beam racquet with quite a
bit of success but, initially, with a lacking of control.  A classic
beam racquet is, IMHO, suitable for a person who already has his/her
strokes down or grooved as they call it.  A widebody (assuming it is
designed well and that this design complements the playing style of its
wielder) can help the novice player to more rapidly gain the skills and
habits of good playing by having that extra stability or particular
balance as is required.  But a classic beam racquet is, more or less,
very similar in playability to another of the same configuration.
Whereas a widebody can be configured to a specific need or style.  Light
and powerful for the Serve and Volley person.  Heavy and Head-heavy for
the baseliner.  Balanced and stiff for the all-court player.  This
customizability makes it possible for a person to learn quicker as the
racquet is more efficient at being used in a particular way.  And then
there is the advantage of widebody technology to accomidate those who
need the extra power or extreme flexibility for comfort that is just not
really possible with a classic beam.

I know this can be explained a lot better and I hope I've gotten my
point across here.  Any contributions from the field would be much
appreciated.

J
From: cd377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Israel Yanez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: VS Phillies results...
Date: 16 Nov 1992 19:02:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE C. LIN) says:

>
>Graf d. Chunk Brat (TM) 6-3 3-6 6-1
 (stuff deleted)

Chunk Brat???  Poor Sanchez-Vicario has to be the one top ten player with
the least fan support... I read in an eralier post that she gave away
ten tournament passes!! TEN???!!  She must be desperate for fan support.

>I think top players can get a set from Graf sometimes because of her weak
>backhand.  Graf's going to have trouble with Seles if they meet next week...

If they meet, it won't be until the final.... Both Seles and Graf should 
coast into the semis to meet opponents that have had a difficult quarter
final match (Sabatini vs Capriati... GO, GABY!!!!! --  and Sanchez-Vicario
vs Martina).

Personally I'd love to see a Sabatini/Graf final.... but Gaby hs let us
down one time to many (or two, three... I lost count).... most probably
be a Graf/seles final.

Well this turned out to be a whole different subject;....  VS Championships..

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From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Couple of Observations on Virginia Slims Final
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:27:04 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <92328.030118U28765@uicvm.uic.edu>, U28765@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>Hello All,
>
>Watched the Monica-Martina Match and remember a couple of things of interest:
>
>1. Martina's service is now with an open racket face, used to be a closed
>  racket face before, have'nt been following women's tennis much, but I
>   wonder if that is a reason for her still getting to finals of such big
>   tourneys. Don't recall her doing so a year ago.

I'm not a tennis technician, would you please explain the difference between
an open racket face serve and a closed one?  Thanks.
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From: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: SQUASH RACQUETS?
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:00:00 GMT
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Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 

-> I saw a prince CTS Extension Elite _squash_ racquet priced at about
-> $180 USDollars.
->
-> Is tehre anybody out there qith good/bad experiences withs this typ
-> of racquet and does the price seems right?

sounds darn expensive to me.  Try the mail order places in the back of
Tennis mag.  e.g. Sullivan Sports Pal in Texas.
                                                      
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From: stein_gs@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Glenn S Stein)
Subject: Re: Seles' records (Was Re: Tournament Update: Nov 22pm
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:33:10 GMT


Monica reached 14 of 15 finals this year and all 16 finals last year of
the tournaments she entered, winning 10 each year.  I see how that makes 30
out of 31 finals.  But isn't her streak better than that?  She won the 1990
Championships, so that would be 31 of 32.  Other than the 1992 Lipton, when
was the last time Monica lost before a final?

Glenn
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From: ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  )
Subject: Frankfurt-semi-and-final-results
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:30:56 GMT

Hi, netters :)

As you probably all know by now, "our" Boris is World Champion 92.
Here are the results:

Saturday, semi:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Courier  -  Sampras      7:6 (7:5),  7:6 (7:4)   (*sniff*)
Becker   -  Ivanisevic   4:6,  6:4,  7:6 (9:7)

Sunday, final:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Becker   -  Courier      6:4, 6:3, 7:5

There was this birthday-party for Boris afterwards, which was really nice,
though I didn't want him to win this title. 9000 people singing "Happy
Birthday", well, you don't see that every day...


Some things about my recent postings:
Thanx for your replies, and I promise *never* to write the result in the
subject again, *honest*, so stop sending me mails about it, okay?

As I couldn't find the time to watch a single match on Friday, I have no
further information about Becker-Edberg (I wish I had!), sorry.

I'll post my articles about the weekend-matches later on. Of course you may
skip them if you saw them (I think ESPN broadcasted in the US, right? I read
it somewhere...). If you saw them, you'll surely have heard me :-)
I was one of the four or five persons shouting for Ivanisevic.
(Explanation for that will follow in my articles, for those who read my
opinion about Goran...)

Bye,
      Cordula
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From: wex@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul M. Wexelblat)
Subject: Periodic posting
Originator: wex@bigmax.ulowell.edu
Reply-To: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: Univ. of Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:42:09 GMT


For new participants in this group:

Please don't put results of matches in your Subject: lines

There are many readers who watch televised matches via tape delay,
and don't wish to learn results in advance.

Use, for example:

"French Open Results"
"Davis Cup Spoilers"

or somesuch to indicate the contents, but that will allow readers
determine if articles should be skipped.

In general, 24 hours is long enough to wait if you just HAVE to
post something of the ilk:

Subject: SELES UPSET BY LAVER

Thanks one and all

-- 

	...Wex
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From: jonas@beor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Josef Nelissen)
Subject: Final results - Sunday
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:49:11 GMT

Antwerp, 1.1 Million $
----------------------

Richard Krajicek(6) d. Mark Woodforde 6:2 6:2

* Krajicek will substitute Lendl, who has withdrawn (don't know the
reasons) in the ATP Championships 

Moscow, 350 000 $
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Marc Rosset(8) d. Carl-Uwe Steeb 6:2 6:2

Sao Paulo, 260 000 $
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Luiz Mattar(6) d. Jaime Oncins(5) 6:1 6:4
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From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP Results: Nov 28
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:16:30 EST
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

$2.5 MILLION ATP CHAMPIONSHIP
AT FRANKFURT, GERMANY
WEDNESDAY'S RESULTS  
LAVER GROUP
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Jim Courier d. Richard Krajicek, 6-7 (4-7), 7-6 (7-1), 7-5

Defending champion Pete Sampras is taking on Stefan Edberg and 
Boris Becker will play Petr Korda in today's other matches. 
 
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From: mmmirash@banshee.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi)
Subject: Re: Becker Fans
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:46:12 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Nov23.203003.163213@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman) writes:
>I've always wondered about this:
>
>Why do some of the "die-hard" Becker fans keep saying "It's BOOM-BOOM time",
>when BOOM-BOOM is not a nickname by which Becker wants to be called.
>
>I recall when the name first started, Becker specifically said he wanted to be
>known for more than his serve and specifically did not like the nomer:
>"BOOM-BOOM"!
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Really?  References please (reliable ones!!)......

Anyway, "Boom Boom time" sounds real good!

Does Becker still detest the nickname? (reliable and recent sources about 
this, please). If he does, I wish to change to a different slogan. Hey all
you Becker fans out there...any ideas?  :)  What is Becker's attitude
towards his German nickname "Bobele"?

                    Thanks,
                                        From a diehard Becker fan.
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From: 000087384@cats.ucis.vill.edu (GUNNA, SANDEEP)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Virginia Slims semifinal result (spoiler)
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:47:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Nov21.214159.1422@ulysses.att.com>, krs@allegra.att.com writes...
> 
>Heard on the radio that Martina has advanced to the finals by defeating
>Lori Mcneil in straight sets..
> 
>	-- K.R.Subramanian
and that she is to play aganist Seles-a straight set 7-6, 6-1 winner
over Sabatini- tommorow at 1 pm EST live on ABC
/sandeep
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Subject: V.S. Championships
From: <BUSBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 08:31:35 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Yesterday I attended the Virginia Slims/Kraft tournament at Madison Square
Garden. When I arrived the Arantia Sanchez-Vicario vs Zina Garrison match
was beginning. Zina started off with a good lead of 5-2, when Arantia began
to come alive and won the first set in a tie breaker. (7-0) for a 7-6 first
set and a 6-1 second set. Zina, who played brilliantly in the first set
just lost all agressiveness in the second. It started off as a potentially
great match and fizzled to a mediocre one.

The next match was between Jennifer Capriati and Helena Sukova. Jennifer
started out slowly, making some great shots and then some slppy ones. Helena
played steady and came to net when she could, usually winning those points.
There were some excellant exchanges at the net and most of those went to
Helena. As the set progressed, Jennifer began passing Helena more regularly
forcing her to stay away from the net. This first set also ended in a tie
break. The score (7-3) so the final score was 7-6, 6-1 in favor of Jennifer.
She played beautiful tennis in the second set with a slight let down on some
loose points, but over all a great game. Both women served well and the top
serve speed was 101 for Jennifer, but the average speed was 98. Not bad!
(First serves only.)

The third match was between Gabriela Sabatini vs Amy Frazier. A real mismatch.
Amy was totally out of her league, especially in the first set. Final score,
6-0, 6-2. Gaby was just taking it easy and played very steady tennis. There
was no way she could have lost. Frazier tried everything in her repertoire
only to hit the ball too long, say twenty feet or too short, into the net.
I think Amy has a long way to go but her talents are there and time will tell
how she uses them.

Over all the matches were good and the new facilities at MSG were great.

If only the jerk sitting in front of me would shut his mouth I would have en-
joyed the matches even more. It wasn't even that he was talking, as much as,
the level of his voice, LOUD and  L O U D E R. Even asking him to keep it down
didn't help. My friend and I had to move from our excellant box seats, to
lessor ones. Not bad for free tickets, though. :)  Thanks, Richard!!

Thats it for now, oh yes, the Budster I was informed, shaved off the beard.
Well, its true. The traitor, I thought he and I had a pact, we would never
shave until Jennifer won Wimbledon, I kept my part, obviosly he didn't. :))
Okay, so he never promised. :(( But, I did!! :)

Enjoy the Virginia Slims matches, the best is yet to come.

Howard
From: mliu@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Mei-Ling L. Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP Championship BroadcaU.S. Broadcast Alert
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:57:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO

M. Liu
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: VS Phillies results...
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:51:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.043749.67185@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE C. LIN) writes:
>
>Graf d. Chunk Brat (TM) 6-3 3-6 6-1
		 ^^^^^^^^^

I've been ignoring this for some time but felt it's time I voiced out my
opinion about this "Chunk Brat thing." A Sanchez fan or not, I feel it
necessary to respect any player who is able to be in the top five and
stay there for any significant period of time. One may win one match due
to luck, but it's quite difficult to win a couple that way. I don't know
for sure why A. Sanchez is being referred to that way, but I find it
unnecessary. There are several names I'd like to call some of the
players, but they all have something likable about them, be it their
tennis or character. A. Sanchez may not be the best out there, but she
sure can run down some of the balls. Please lets at least give the
players some respect. As for "chunk" some of us may be quite slim, but
we sure couldn't get to the balls she gets to.

Feli.
From: jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: ATTN: JEFF KLING
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:28:00
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In-reply-to: moharil@cs.iastate.edu's message of Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:39:38 GMT

In article <moharil.722101178@judy.cs.iastate.edu> moharil@cs.iastate.edu (Vinay Arvind Moharil) writes:


   Hi Jeff!

   I read your posting about the graf gif on net. I tried to send you
   email regarding the same. But everytime the mail bouces back.
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry to use the net, but ...

Jeff Kling:

Can you provide a workable e-mail address?  I have tried getting stuff to
you on squash to no avail.  Don't want to spend the bandwidth of this group
talking about an alien sport.

jim taylor
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: VS Graf vs. McNeil comments
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:57:05 GMT

In article <75246@hydra.gatech.EDU> cs30@prism.gatech.EDU (SMITH,CHRISTOPHER G) writes:

>WHAT A HUGE UPSET!!!!!  An incredible match!
>McNeil d. Graf(2)  7-6 6-4

Well, I have the dubious honor to watch Steffi Graf's last two losses
in 1992 in person. Now I had a chance to watch the tape too and here
are some additional comments. I think Graf's main problems in the past
year or so are: (1) her concentration and (2) her shoulder injury. The
latter has been bothering her again on and off since this past summer
and definitely has affected her serve. I think these two factors have
a lot to do with the slight decline in Graf's consistency, although,
as usual, she refuses to use injury as an excuse.

>McNeil started off very poorly and was down 5-1 in the first 
>set, but then Graf became a bit tentative.  It was at that point
>that McNeil became much more confident and began to take control
>at the net.  What was remarkable was from that point almost
>all the way to the end of the match, McNeil controlled the match
>play (although she had a short lapse at the beginning of the 2nd
>set).

Again, Graf started really well and was coming to the net several
times; McNeil was making quite a few errors. But after leading 4-0
in the first set, she apparently lost her concentration and played
some loose points. The momentum shifted quickly and McNeil played
very well from 1-5 down on, except for committing quite a few double
faults. Graf tried to settle down by staying on the baseline, the game
that is more natural to her, but couldn't regain the upper hand again.
It was just amazing to see that nothing worked for her any more. I think
McNeil really played a great match for her.

It was nice to see a very disappointed Steffi Graf giving credit to McNeil
for her victory during the post-match press conference, and Lori McNeil
acknowledged that she was lucky to win (she got a net cord ball at match
point, for example). Just like the Seles family, the Graf family was
applausing McNeil towards the end of the match when she played a great
point and was on the verge of winning.
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From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: A Matter of Perspective?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 21:48:44 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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>In article <1992Nov23.233108.22585@eng.umd.edu>, clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>>
>>     It's all a matter of perspective really.   Either, men's tennis
>> is like women's tennis without the top six women, or men's tennis is
>> like the top six women.
>
>It is NOT a matter of perspective. Men's tennis is like tennis
>without the women. Women's tennis is like tennis without the men.
>Mixed doubles is tennis with both women and men. :-)
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>     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA

!..... WOW ......!


-TEG
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: VS Championship, Nov 19 results
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:01:30 GMT

Navratilova d. Sanchez-Vicario: 6-1, 2-6, 6-2
  Martina has a very one-sided head-to-head record against Arantxa
  and the trend continues. Part of the reason is, of course, that
  Martina hardly plays any clay-court tournaments any more.

Seles d. Novotna: 3-6, 6-4, 6-1

Somehow I had the feeling that Novotna would give Seles a lot of trouble,
but since their respective mental toughness is on extreme ends of the
spectrum, Novotna would come up short again. That was pretty much what
happened.

Novotna started the match very well. Although her serve wasn't at its
best (around 49% first serve in the first set), her volleys were working.
Seles was a little off and made quite a few errors. Novotna broke Seles
three times and was broken once in the first set. Novotna continued the
momentum and quickly built a 3-0 lead in the second set. Seles tried to
change her game and even serve-and-volley a little. Her volleys really
aren't the best in the business but she managed to win a game. When she
was in a position to win, Novotna began to falter and lost five games in
a row, double faulting several times. Novotna finally won a game trailing
3-5, saving three set points but Seles served out the set to even the match.
Novotna won the first game in the final set but it was all Seles from
then on. Her baseline game was working again finally.

I am always quite impressed by Novotna's talent and her best surface is
certainly indoor carpet. I have seen her serve much better, as she did
when she upset Graf in this tournament last year. But her nerves simply
lets her down time after time. That was probably why she pushed Graf deep
in the third set three times last month but came up short every time.
Contrary, Seles' toughness is once again second to none.
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Virginia Slims Championship First-Round Schedule
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:33:50 GMT

Monday, November 16:    Seles vs. Tauziat
                        Navratilova vs. Maleeva-Fragniere

Tuesday, November 17:   Graf vs. McNeil
                        M.J. Fernandez vs. Novotna
                        Martinez vs. K. Maleeva

Wednesday, November 18: Sanchez-Vicario vs. Garrison
                        Capriati vs. Sukova
                        Sabatini vs. Frazier
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