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From: karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches)
Subject: Re: sync'ing files btwn PB and Mac
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:16:25 GMT

In article <20=C03s=3eVQ00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches) writes:
>
>}>In comp.sys.mac.apps Larry Walker writes:
>}>
>}>}I'm looking for some software to help keep files in sync between
>}>}a PowerBook and a desktop Mac. 
>
>}Such a freeware utility (might be shareware) already exists. It is called
>}Zync and I believe it can be found on sumex-aim.stanford.edu. If not, I could
>}post it there.
>
>I tried it.  It's an extremely simple program that seems to let you 
>designate one and only one folder on each machine, then it simply compares
>the modify times on all the files and copies the newer file on top of the
>older file.  
>
>What I want is a program that lets me designate as many folders (and
>sub-folders) as I want, and that remembers the modify time of the files
>the last time they were sync'ed so that it can alert me (and not over-
>write anything) when both files have been modified since they last time
>they were sync'ed.  I'd also like to have options that let me see the
>names of the files before they're copied and have a chance to exclude
>certain files on a one-time or permanent basis.  So that's what I'm
>going to try to write (but don't hold your breath; the way I work, it'll
>be three to six months before I finish (well, I do have other things in
>my life, like the work I get paid to do)).
>
>--James Preston

I have not tried it, but have you looked at Inertie from Dantz Development?

Regards,
Tom Karches
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From: steve@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Fuller)
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid: Call for Solutions
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:16:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.160146.3372@informix.com> robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:
>In article <dx3uv972.8n0i00@moebius.cubetech.com> peterc@cubetech.com (Peter  
>Creath) writes:
>> 
>NO! (Whoops, calm down, Rob). The few scattered digits constitute an "upgrade  
>coupon" - nothing more. They have no effect at all on the operation of the  
>program. They are in the program only to be read by the software publisher. The
>publisher looks at the disk that is sent in at upgrade time, and if the  
B
>"upgrade coupon" digits are registered, and have not yet been sent in to the  
>publisher to claim an upgrade, the publisher sends the upgrade at very low cost
>to *whoever* sends in a disk containing the application with those hidden  
>digits. NO key disk. NO copy protection whatsoever.
>
This seems silly to me. What advantage does this give you? Disks are easy to
duplicate bit by bit. I propose a better way:
1. Each copy of the software sold had a physical registration card.
2. Each card has a serial number.
3. The user MUST have registered (sent in the card) to get an upgrade.
4. Software is only shipped to owners address.

The tradeoff between my scheme and yours is the company must provide a way
to change registration with mine and they have to handle all those disks with
yours. Symantec has a system very much like mine already in place. The sofware
comes with a registration card, change of ownership card, disk replacement
card, and a few serial number barcodes.

>> True, but they can say they just got it and haven't registered.  That's
>> why the 2-key serial validation would be necessary (see my prior post)...
>
>They don't have to say anything. If they are the first person to send in a copy
>of the program containing the hiden "upgrade coupon" number at upgrade time,  
>they get the cheap upgrade, no questions asked. Ugh! indeed for the original  
>purchaser, unfortunately, who has to buy a whole new copy at retail.

Right, this is bad. Only let the registered users upgrade. Paper is much
harder to duplicate that an electronic 'upgrade coupon'.

Steve Fuller
steve@sdf.lonestar.org
From: Philip.Schuler@p881.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Philip Schuler)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PageMaker 4.2 filters
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:23:16 -0500

>-> >The subject line says it all - is there a filter for PageMaker 4.2 that
>-> >allows one to place WriteNow 3.0 documents?
>
>	Let's continue on the same subject:
>
>	Is there a way to export documents FROM PageMaker to a word processor?

  You can export the blocks of text in a PageMaker document to a file that a
word processor can use. Put the text tool into a story or select a block of text
in a story, choose Export.. from the File menu. The type of file that you want
to create is limited by the export filters you installed when you set up
PageMaker in the first place.
  This is not quite the same as exporting the whole PageMaker document (complete
with graphics, columns, etc.) and some subtle changes can creep in when you do
it. But if you just need to get the text from your layout into a word processor
for some other purpose this should do the trick.

Regards,
Phil Schuler
From: chavey@jalapeno.cs.wisc.edu (Darrah Chavey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Desktop Message Display?
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:43:06 GMT
Organization: Beloit College, Beloit, Wisc.

In article <crk5-240792120924@mac25.falk.med.pitt.edu> crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Chris Kunselman) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Does anybody know of a good way I can display a daily message or permanent
>message to users on the desktop?  I want to display a message box about
>2x4" that would notify users of certain system configurations.  I thought
>of using some sort of startup screen display, but I want the message to be
>displayed on the desktop at all times if possible.  
>

The easiest way to do this is probably to put your message in a startup
screen.  I've seen labs that used a particular picture with space for the
"message of the day" which could be easily changed.  Put your new message
there, install the startup screen on the machines in your lab, and away
you go.

--Darrah Chavey
  Beloit College
From: lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Les Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Fill-in-the-blanks documents in Pagemaker 4.0?
Keywords: PageMaker
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:00:35 GMT

In <13636@auspex-gw.auspex.com> hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng) writes:

>In article <12333@ecs.soton.ac.uk> lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Les Carr) writes:
>The easiest thing to do would be to set up tabs with leaders. Leaders are
>characters that appear before the tab starting from the place where you hit
>the tab key.
>Hope that solves the problem!

Thanks, but I don't think it helps.
The tab applies throughout the whole paragraph, so if
I have a paragraph with 5 words to be filled in, the positioning of the
tabs gets a bit tricky. Also, inserting/deleting charaters in the paragraph
will change (chaotically!) the size of the leaders.
-- 
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From: ksalper@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ken Alper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy...
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:49:33 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY


  Whoa! It's illegal to distribute lyrics? How's that? It seems kind of
  questionable to me.
From: richieb@bony1.bony.com (Richard Bielak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid: Call for Solutions
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:28:19 GMT
Organization: multi-cellular

In article <1992Jul28.123845.24320@bony1.bony.com> richieb@bony1.bony.com (Richard Bielak) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.084854.5977@sdf.lonestar.org> steve@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Fuller) writes:
>
>[...]
>
>>
>>All methods of software copy protection are useless. Software Pirating is a
>>moral issue and will not be solved by legal or technichal methods.
>>
>
>I agree that software copy protection is useless. But software piracy
>is not necessarily a moral issue. It's a cultural issue. 
>
>The problem is the way we make money selling software today. If, as
>Brad Cox suggest, we charged for software per user, not per copy, then
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                       Oops, a type - I meant "per-use"
>coping would not be a problem.
>
>In fact, duplication would be great - if more copies are in
>circulation, there is more use, therefore more revenue :-).
>
>Software is *so* easy to copy, why not use this strength to our
>advantage instead of fighting it.
>
>...richie
>
>P.S. see the thread on "superdistribution" in comp.object
>
>-- 
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From: sellswor@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Top Ten Software Rip-offs, 1992-07-13
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:44:30 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711


  Many US made products, especially those with encryption and
related compression algorithms may not be exported.  This is a 
good enough reason to make two versions to me.

  I do not know if AD is such an afflicted program.  Can DD
make encrypted files that AD vcan read?

  Scott
  sellswor@jarthur.claremont.edu

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From: mnc0678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.N. Cannava )
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Apple-menu/Backup SW/Docker pgm
Originator: mnc0678@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:41:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.015530.13315@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> pollard@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Tom Pollard) writes:
>
>Apollo is not just non-commercial, it is currently freeware, because it's still
>in beta test stage.  I find it quite user-friendly and can't imagine living
>without it.  I would suggest that it is a definite "must have", particularly
>since it is still in active development and users can still have a significant
>influence on its final form.  It is, with CompactPro and StuffitLite, the most
>useful shareware/freeware program that I have on my machine.
>

I have now gotten many responses from Apollo users, voicing much the
same things you have. I did, perhaps, post my summary prematurely.
Apollo is *quite* worth a look-see.

See my follow-up to my original posting in comp.sys.mac.apps; I include
a quip about Apollo from the author.

I apologize for failing to give Apollo appropriate representation.
 
>>
>>Shareware:	BeHierarchic, v1.0.5. At sumex-aim.
>>			Excellent reviews. Grab it.
>>
>
>I seem to remember that there was a lot of Usenet traffic complaining about 
>BeHierarchic's incompatibilities with other software.  In particular, it
>supposedly interacts badly with AutoDoubler, because (if I remember correctly)
>it reconfigures itself every time you restart your machine.  People reported
>that sysem startup took minutes longer than otherwise when AD and BeHierarchic
>were running at the same time.  Also, except for the "no icons next to menu
>text", BeHierarchic's functions seem to be completely a subset of what Apollo
>will do for you.  That is, Apollo gives you a highly configurable application
>and document launching menu that can include the Apple menu items.
>

BeHierarchic slows my IIsi's startup tremendously, right after AfterDark
displays its icon. No other strange behavior, though, and it works.

>Obviously, this is just my 2p worth, but it doesn't look like your survey got
>any significant response from Apollo users.
>

True. I got follow-ups after I posted the summary. Again, sorry for
slighting Apollo.

\marc

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From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (David C Blume)
Subject: Re: PowerBook 170 Briefcase??????
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:31:29 GMT

In article <45491@shamash.cdc.com> paul@svl.cdc.com (Paul Kohlmiller) writes:
>
> I used and liked the Kensington case for the PB170. 
>

I like this one best, too.

--David
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From: henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos)
Subject: Re: SPA piracy raid: Call for Solutions
Organization: The Twisted Banana BBS, Ithaca NY (US)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 02:14:49 GMT
Keywords: piracy, SPA

linley@boole.seas.ucla.edu (Bruce Linley) writes:

> Another thought to ponder... copyright laws do allow some things (like
> articles, etc.) to be FREELY copied if it's for educational use (i.e. pro-
> fessor copies article for class notes). Software is protected under copyright

NOT! (see Kinko suit.)

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From: tomho@microunity.com (Tom Ho)
Subject: quicktime question
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:02:50 GMT

HI,

How do you run a quicktime movie?  I have installed quicktime and have a couple movies but I think I am missing something in order to run them.  

What do I need?  If this is a faq, could someone point me to the proper file on sumex that I can read about quicktime.  I have read the comp.sys.mac.faq and it does not have quicktime on it.

Please respond by e-mail if possible.  Thanks for your help.
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From: mmartin@nmsu.edu (Marilyn Martin)
Subject: Pagemaker refresh on a Quadra?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:55:49 GMT

I have a user with Pagemaker 4.2 on a Quadra. His refresh rate and scrolling
rate is really slow.  Will extra video ram help?

We turned down the colors on the monitor to black and white but that did
not help.

Thanks for any help.

Marilyn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: cramer@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Cramer)
Subject: Re: Stallman & lawyers (was Re: SPA piracy raid at Oregon?)
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:23:02 GMT

robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer) writes:
: But there IS a group out there that is working real hard at killing off all
: software development as we know it.  Who is it?  [drum roll please]  It's
: LAWYERS and the companies that hire them, specifically the Look-And-Feel guys
: and the Patented-Algorithm guys.  If these guys get their way, the software
: development process will be slowly strangled, until it withers up and dies.

From what I read in the paper last week it would appear that some courts
are exercising some common sense in the look-n-feel copyright area.  I
don't have the article handy (I'll dig around) but from what I can
recollect, the gist was that things that are obvious (like making
a spreadsheet look like, well, a spreadsheet) were not copyrightable,
nor were basic screen layout (like menu positions).  Blatent things 
like using "/-T-L-F1" (or whatever 1-2-3 key sequences look like)
were another story.  The article also mentioned patents, but I don't
remember any specifics.

Bill Cramer

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From: dcmyers@astro.umd.edu (David Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: 4th Dimension vs. other Mac databases
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:52:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy

I have recently been working with 4th Dimension for a project at
work. Don't really care for the database or its language, especially
the execution cycle stuff which is just too counter-intuitive. Its
general graphical flexibility is nice, however, and I may have
some use for its add-on modules. Question: Any other databases
out there that come close to 4D? I'm especially curious about
NuBase. I'd like to have programmable control over Sys 7 
features like apple events within the database. In fact, what I'd
really like is the simplicity of HyperCard, but with multi-user
support and some of the other industrial-strength qualities of
4D. Any ideas?

-dave.

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From: p_stampoul@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Subject: BrainMaker from Cal Sci Software. HELP.
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:18:30 GMT

Anyone heard anything about the release of
BrainMaker, a neural-net application from
California Scientific Software. I sent them
my money, over 6 month ago, received a reply
stating that the software was in beta-release
and that I would receive a copy within a few weeks.
I didn't hear anything else and about four weeks ago
I wrote asking what had happened. No answer.
Anyone know what's happening?
THANKS in advance.
P_STAMPOUL@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches)
Subject: Re: C++ and other compilers
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:40:37 GMT

In article <bonnie.712419052@earth.njit.edu> bonnie@earth.njit.edu (Bonnie MacKellar) writes:
>I have a pretty basic question : I am interested in buying a Mac
>(possibly a powerbook 140 or 170), but I do a lot of programming
>and people have told me tha the Mac is not a good programmers
>machine due to a lack of good compilers.  Is this true or not?
>I do not use "boxed applications" very often.
>I normally use gnu C++  and Bim Prolog on a Sparcstation.
>I also often need Lisp.  What is available for the Mac that
>is comparable?  I understand that Think C is not really C++,
>so I am not interested in that.  Is there anyting available
>for free, like the gnu software?  Or am I better off
>buying a PC?
>
>                                 Bonnie MacKellar
>                                 bonnie@vienna.njit.edu
>
>                                  
I believe that Gnu C (possibly Gnu C ++) has been ported to the Mac along
with a number of other Gnu utilities. I would check the major Gnu archives.

I have Tenon MachTen on my PowerBook 170 (BSD 4.3 with the Mach kernel)
and the development system comes with Gnu C.

I believe that Prolog and Lisp are available; I would check a publication
called the Macintosh Program Registry (I believe) for actual manufacturer
names.

Regards,
Tom Karches


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.windows.ms,comp.os.ms-windows
From: pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby)
Subject: WinExcel equivalent to MacExcel 'Chicago' font?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Summary: Need Windows version of Mac 'Chicago' font for Excel
Organization: 3M Company
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 14:57:06 GMT

Is there a font available for Windows Excel which is equivalent to the
Macintosh 'Chicago' font?  In moving macros from Macintosh to Windows
Excel, most of my dialog boxes are a little messed up due to font-size
differences.  If I can find a direct analog for the Mac's Chicago font,
life will be much simpler.

Ideally, this would be a font _included_ with Windows 3.0/3.1...I don't
really want my installation instructions to read "Add the following font
to your Windows setup...."  After all, this is just a macro! :-)

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From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Stallman & lawyers (was Re: SPA piracy raid at Oregon?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:54:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bs41q5.1H4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer) writes:
>But there IS a group out there that is working real hard at killing off all
>software development as we know it.  Who is it?  [drum roll please]  It's
>LAWYERS and the companies that hire them, specifically the Look-And-Feel guys
>and the Patented-Algorithm guys.  If these guys get their way, the software
>development process will be slowly strangled, until it withers up and dies.
>I don't care if he's a Communist or a Socialist or a Zoroastrian; if he's
>trying to put some restraints on those lawyers, I think he's great.

Get real.  You think a bunch of lawyers got together and decided to sue
software companies?  Nope.  They were HIRED by software companies to sue
other software companies.  That's like blaming the soldiers who fought
in Vietnam for starting the Vietnam war.
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From: henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos)
Subject: Re: Style changes in Word 4
Organization: The Twisted Banana BBS, Ithaca NY (US)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:25:56 GMT

amunn@linus.umd.edu (Alan Munn) writes:

> I have a Word question which has been bothering me for a while.  I
> have a bunch of styles defined based on Normal.  They don't involve
> font changes, but involve various paragraph format changes.  Let's say
> I have 5 styles, A, B, C, D and E.  If I go into Define All Styles and
> change the font from Palatino to Times, only A, B and C change their
> fonts; D and E don't, even though all 5 styles are defined as based on
> Normal.  What's going on?
> 
> Alan
> <amunn@umd5.umd.edu>
> 
> 

Could it be that D and E already have a different font defined 
than Normal (i.e., D is, say, Normal + Font: xyz)?

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From: ldh@svl.cdc.com (Lawrence D. Hare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: TeachText Font Change
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:02:54 GMT
Organization: Control Data Systems
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1

I know there is a way, but I have forgotten it. Hunting through TeachText
in ResEdit gives me no light. But..

How do I change the default typeface and size in TeachText? It's a nice
little editor for stuff like this.... 
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