From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.personals
Subject: Re: RE: alt.personals and enforced monogamy
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:12:35 GMT

In article <28AUG92.19244061@umbc1.umbc.edu>, williamf@umbc1.umbc.edu writes:
> 
> In a previous article, cd975@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel K. Holmes) wrote:
> > 
> >In a previous article, mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) prattles
>    vapidly:
> >>> In article <15036@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) 
>     defender of God knows what says:
> >>
> >>>>Considering that he is providing a *free* service for those people to whom he
> >>> 
> >>How do you know what he would probably do?  The fact that he does it without
> >>charging is indicative that he wouldn't charge.  Your close-minded bigotry is
> >>really showing in that sentence.  What other gems of hypocricy will be coming from
> >>your keyboard next?
> >>
> >>He isn't enforcing anything on anyone!  *You*, on the other hand, are certainly 
> >>trying to enforce yours on him.  You're lying about this speaks more about you
> >>than anything that I or anyone else can say about you.
> >>
> >Excuse me........... Mike, you ignorant slut. Have you had any correspondence
> 
>     Really!! C'mon.  Comparing Mike 'S' to an ignorant slut is a slur upon 
>     the slut.  At least sluts don't paid for their services.  Mike 'S' MUST 
>     be getting some kind of moral high from his sermonizing.

What is it with all you hypocrites?  You sermonize against Darryl, and then have
the chutzpah to accuse me of sermonizing when I point out that you are guilty of
doing what you've been accusing him of doing?  Of all the close-minded,
sanctimonious anal-rentitive hypocrites, you surely take the cake.

> >with Darryl? Or you married or in any way being discriminated by this service?
> >If you answered no to either of these questions.........Shut the hell up!!
> >The topic does not concern you and therefore you should not have a voice.
> >Unless you have personally talked with Darryl, quit throwiong your "bigotry"
> >bullshit around. I have taked with Darryl, and yes, all comments are correct.
> >Give us facts, dipshit, not just hit the airwaves with your "you communist" 
> >crap. You sound like Pee Wee Herman with this, no he's not, you are trash.
> > 
> >Darryl does decide what "he feels" should be posted or not. He will turn a
> >married person down who just wants to find pen-pals, and then post about a 
> >cross-dresser wanting to "entertain" men, regardless of their marital status.
> > 
> >So MIke, get down off your soapbox, and try and learn some things before you get 
> >all up in arms. You look like an ass to those of us that do have the facts.
> > 
>   Amen.  I tried to stay out of this round of ACS criticism but I couldn't 
>   resist this.  Darryl is a big boy:  let him defend himself.  Mike jumps to 
>   his defense and says......nothing.  The fact is many of Darryl's critics 
>   have been around this group for a while and don't want see creeping 
>   intolerance and censorship seep in.

No, you want to keep your own intolerance in the forefront.  Look in the
mirror; you will see that the enemy is you!

> If Darryl wants to run an ACS, and let 
>   me say one is needed, then he ought to be true to the history of the group
>   and run it as openly as legally possible.   When Mike 'S' returns fire upon
>   somebody who critizes ACS by calling then a BIGOT with all the baggage that
>   that entails, thats really just inflaming emotions.  Its not easy to muster
>   the available resources AND willingness to run an ACS and I don't want to see
>   the current ACS drift away w/o a replacement BUT, I do think it better not
>   to have this one here in the hope that someone will step forward to fill the 
>   vacuum than to have the current restrictive one running--I am NOT married
>   for those who think that that is *my* motivation.

I sxee.  Trying to censor Darryl and coerce him into running his service your way
is good, but to advocate that he has the right to run his service the way that he
wants to do it, is bad.   You are the epitome of rampant hypocricy.

If you don't like the way that Darryl is running his service, why don't you run
one in competition with him instead of continually whining about it?  Or is it
that you prefer to whine about doers than to do anything yourself?

BTW, in case you have forgotten; I don't like the way that he runs the service any
more than you do--but I recognize his right to run it any way that he wants.
That's the difference between those of us who know what freedoms and rights are
all about and those of you who merely give them lip service and who don't have a
clue.
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