From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: A question for Eagle fans....
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:23:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.152816.12690@ntmtv> jmartin@ntmtv.UUCP (Jeff Martin) writes:
>
>> "Jim Wiener" <ames!puhep1.princeton.edu!wiener> writes:
>>These guys play their show purely for laughs.
>
>I guess I have a different tastes in hummor.
>
>>
>>It kills me when morons try to attack the media or fans in one NFL city
>>as ignorant, irresponsible, or in general inferior to the media or
>>fans in other cities. In the course of my work I happen to travel 
>>all over the country and I can assure you that all the fans and media
>>everywhere are identical. 
>>
>
>.. And it kills me when self-important assholes dismiss the 
>sincere questions of others at the same time proving their
>their own profound ignorance of the subject they are addressing.
>
>If Mr. Wiener had read and comprehended what I wrote he would
>have understood I only attacked the two Philly media personalities
>I had been exposed to, not the market as a whole or its fans. My 
>question was whether these "professionals"  were representitive of
>that market. He extrapolated it over the whole Eagle dominion.
>
>More thoughtful replies lead me to conclude these broadcasters are 
>infact in the fringe of mainstream of Philly media and are considered by
>many, who posted, to be the clowns I took them for.
>
>I may not be as well traveled as Mr. Wiener but I'll comment on the
>two NFL cities in which I have lived for an extended period of time.
>(I would not be as bold as to draw general conclusions from the
>cites I have "traveled" through, then again I'm obviously not as worldly 
>as Mr. Wiener).
>
>Neither San Franscisco or Dallas have the types of media personalities
>discussed in the original post. I doubt that such "entertainment" would
>find much of an audience among sports fans in those markets. Not to
>say that Dallas/SF don't have a number of homeys, just that the line
>of acceptable woofing stops this side of endorsing injury, even in jest,
>to opposing teams. (I do not speak for the other 26 NFL markets or
>their fans).

I lived in Pittsburgh for two years and have lived near SF for all
the rest of them.  San Francisco would not accept injury woofing,
even in jest.  I have never heard even the most "homey" of announcers
(and we have some) ever suggest even in jest that someone be injured.
Pittsburgh, in my limited experience, is the most football-crazy
town I have been in.  Even when the Pirates and Penguins were/are
doing well, people talk mostly about football. I never heard any
Steeler homey (even that idiot Myron Cope, who is loved in
Pittsburgh) ever suggest that a player be injured.

How about it net.fans?  Is Philadelphia typical of the rest of
the NFL cities?  Are Pittsburgh, Dallas, and San Francisco just a
minority here?  Inquiring minds want to know! :-)

>
>>I guarantee I can find media personalities in Dallas saying the same types
>>of stupid things to try and pump themselves and their shows up.
>>
>
>You can guarantee nothing of the sort because such media personalities
>don't exist in Dallas (or SF for that mmatter).  They don't find success 
>here(there). You obviously don't know what your talking about.
>
>Jeff Martin