From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Politics Anyone??  (Was Re: MA: Fare Price Increase)
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:36:49 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Oct4.133330.16215@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
> 
> Our economy had been destroyed by him. There is no increase in purchasing
> power of the ordinary people, even with the oil revenues which he has at his
> disposal. The so called development are nothing more than normal growth due
> to increase in population.

	I dunno much about economics, but I do know that the "so called
development" are not due solely to the increase in population as there are many
other third world countries out there whose economy cannot compare to M'sia's
even tho their population has been increasing.
	What I think is happening is that he wants to slow the growth down to a
managable rate instead of having an explosive one and risking a burn out.

> 	I'll come to that but I need to make sure people know what development
> is really is. If Singapore leaders are having problems convincing their 
> citizens what it is, let alone I?

	Huh??  What do you mean?

> 	I have never liked Dr. Mahathir the moment I attended the talk which
> we had with him, and look at the disasters that he had caused?
> 
	For example?  What disasters?

> : international recognition of the "little country stuck between Thailand and
> 
> I do not like his style even in international affairs. He is like a begger,
> but the developing countires like him for being so blatant about it. My 
> opinion is that if he and the other developing countries keep on begging, they
> will never be developed.

	While I agree with your sentiment about begging, I do not agree that he
is like a beggar.  How is he like a beggar?

> : Singapore."  What reasons do you give for not supporting Mahathir?  Who else is
> : there in Malaysia that can do a better job than him?  I don't think you will
> 
> 	I never believe that anyone can ever be good for ever. Even if he were
> good, we should have a change of atmosphere. I believe 10 years is sufficient.

	Again, while I agree with you sentiment in that no one can be good
forever (well, that's a pretty long time... :)), I do not agree that we should
change if he is good.  Unless someone better comes along.  Change for the sake
of changing will bring a change for the worse.

> : support MCA and I certainly think PAS and DAP has some problems which if they
> : don't overcome, they will have big problems trying to win the elections.
> 
> Despite trying to be a good muslim, I do not support PAS even when it has the
> support of ABIM and other young muslim groups because they do not understand
> what economics really is. Razaleigh is a better person being an excellent 
> accountant, better than the other guy(forgot his name).

	Anyone still remember the papers coming out with lotsa articles on how
Razaleigh is in "cahoots" with the guy involved in the BMF scandal during the
1990 elections?  If I remembered correctly, the the papers received the
"newsflash" just in time for publishing and Razaleigh didn't have time to reply
immediately...  Politics is a dirty game indeed....

> 	My favourite is Anwar Ibrahim, not only is he a good muslim, he
> is a true intellectual. He may not be in the same calibre as  LKY but he
> is  the best we can ever have especially among the Malays. He was reputed
> to have got first class honours while in prison from UM. The best judge is to
> actually talk to him, or judge the results which was happening when he was
> the recent finance minister.

	From what I have heard Anwar is slated to be the next PM, god willing. 
No matter what you think of Mahathir, I think you do have to agree that he made
a good decision in choosing Anwar, right?  One of my teachers was in MU at the
same time as Anwar and she tells me that he used to go around with a bunch of
his friends and spray paint on all the english signs the malay translation of
it...  Luckily he don't really do these kinds of things now, eh?? :) :)

> I have to post to you personally because what I'm saying is a bit sensitive,
> especially when people are not ready yet. I'm not afraid to voice my dislike
> of Dr.Mahathir, but I want people to understand the reasons.
> 	I have a strange feeling that we are the only ones reading this post.

	I am complete lost here....  If you posted this to me personally, ie,
emailed me, why is this on the net?  If you emailed me personally, why do you
wonder about other people reading your "post"?  Still, 2 people have mailed me
regarding this thread.  So, there are at least four of us out there...  Any
more willing to confess??? :) :)
	Ciao dude.

-Tai
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