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From: centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam)
Subject: Re: Eagles/Cowboys (Re: EAGLES WILL GO 16-0 IF ANYONE DOES)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:27:56 GMT

Hell, everybody's predicting scores for this game.
So what the heck, here's my bound-to-fail prediction.

	Philadelphia	34
	Dallas		20

And here's how they'll score quarter by quarter!  Ha! Ha! Ha!
No one else has predicted that yet have they, eh????

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
------|------|-------|-------|--------
Eagles|	14   |	10   | 	7    | 	3    |
Dallas|	3    | 	10   | 	0    |	7    |
--------------------------------------

Looking into my cracked crystal ball...

Eagles will score early on passing plays as
Randall hits on TD strikes and Eagles' D control
Dallas' offense in the 1st quarter.

Eagles go up 24 to 6 in the 2nd quarter and
shift more towards a run offense. Game looks like
it might turn into a blowout.  Dan Dierdorf says
stupid stuff as usual.  Tries to fill the time
by singing.  Aliens mistake him for Elvis and
kidnap him during a commercial break. Dallas scores
a late TD that is helped by a long punt return which
gives them the best field position of the night.
Dallas marches down with 2:00 remaining and scores
before the half to narrow score to 24-13.  Critical to
the drive is a 15 yd. run by Emmitt Smith on 3rd down
who has been held to only 28 yds rushing on 10 carries
and also critical are a holding and a pass interference
call against the Eagles.
 
Game will look out of reach by end of 3rd quarter
as the Eagles score quickly and lead 31 to 13.  Eagles'
D continue to apply pressure on Aikman and stuff the
run.  After Eagles score, they start to play the Monday
night theme music and show the credits a little early.
Eagles ball-control to death and eat up the clock.

By middle of 4th quarter people start leaving as Eagles
put up another 3pts, making the score 34 - 13.  Aikman
takes a hit and lands in an awkward position.  Prognosis
uncertain.  Looks like knee injury might put him
out for 6-8 weeks. Beurlein comes in and doesn't do much
better than Aikman who finishes 11 of 30 for the night
(not a good night for his QB rating) and eats turf 3 times
Late TD scored by Dallas in waning seconds as Eagles switch
to prevent to eat up the time.  Dallas tries on-side kick,
but it fails.  Game ends and Dan Dierdorf is nowhere to be
found.  Hopes they get Monday Night Football on Mars.

Heck, now that you've heard my prediction, why even watch
the game?  (Yeah, right.)
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Rating the QBs
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  6 OCT 92 16:28:36    

In article <BvpsM9.LAL@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes...

>Athlon has devised a system that is not only fair but more realistic.
>It works like so: If a QB is first lifetime in total yds he recieves a rating
>of 1. If he is third in lifetime total yds he recieves a rating of 3.
>The remaining criteria afterwards count only half. So if a QB is eighth 
>lifetime in total yds he recieves 8 x .5 = 4 rating. If he is third in 
>percentage of completions, he recieves 3 x .5 = 1.5 rating. Finally if his
>interception total is second least among all-time greats he recieves a 
>2 x .5 = 1 rating. Now add his five numbers, the lower the number the 
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Greater the quarterback.Here is their list of the Top 20 all-time Greats:
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[List deleted.]

I think this should say "the lower the number the Greater the passer" 
because it doesn't take into account things like leadership, play 
calling, scrambling ability, etc.

Actually, I don't think you can even draw any conclusions about who's
the better passer from this because rule changes make things like Pct. 
Comp. incomparable within different eras.

JGH
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: PREDICTIONS for Cowboys/Eagles game
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:59:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <91444@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>
>The Eagle fans at the Vet will prove themselves to be the most obnoxious
>bunch of idiots on the planet by throwing bottles, rocks, beer cups, etc.
>during every Cowboy drive.  Done so in the past will continue to do so.

looks like you dont like the eagles (3-0) sitting at the top of NFC
east. It seems like you have been going to the vet regularly. Let me
take a guess. You must have been to the vet once, and a bottle
intended for someone landed on you. You are a NewYork fan aren't
you....

GO EAGLES...
From: lmcmasc@noah.ericsson.se (Mauro Schena)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Webster Slaughter
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:27:21 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Yes another free agent has signed!

Webster Slaughter has signed a two year deal with
the Houston Oilers. The contract is worth 2.2 million.


************************************
*What'cha gonna do when the COWBOYS*
*run wild on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
************************************

Mauro.
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Subject: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Predictions for Week 5
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:16:13 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

Here are the computer program's predictions for Week 5.
==



        
                     Week #5 Game Predictions


       Green Bay      ___   21          New Orleans    ___   22

     @ Atlanta        ___   27        @ Detroit        ___   18



       Chicago        ___   24          Dallas         ___   20

     @ Minnesota      ___   26        @ Philadelphia   ___   24



       Washington     ___   33          L.A. Rams      ___   13

     @ Phoenix        ___   11        @ San Francisco  ___   33



       Indianapolis   ___   13          Miami          ___   23

     @ Tampa Bay      ___   21        @ Buffalo        ___   38



       Kansas City    ___   22          N.Y. Giants    ___   23

     @ Denver         ___   15        @ L.A. Raiders   ___   21



       New England    ___   12          Seattle        ___   18

     @ N.Y. Jets      ___   19        @ San Diego      ___   16
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
From: martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Majik Favre update
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:28:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Sep30.232824.11529
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1ad99bINNogt@uwm.edu> dsj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
>From article <1992Sep30.130914.15300@cis.ohio-state.edu>, by martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens):


>> My best guess is that Favre will retain the starting job when
>> Majkowski comes back.  Against the Steelers, Favre played better
>> than Majkowski has since '89, and if he continues to perform well
>> I see no reason to put Majik back in.  My main concern is that
>> Favre is young.  Can talent and enthusiasm overcome inexperience?
>> Comments?  Opinions?


>	I would have to disagree with the above statement. After
>watching all 4 GB games, I must admit the Favre did indeed outplay
>Majik, but was he actually GOOD? In the Pitt game, Favre had good
>stats, but take away Sharpes 76 yard TD catch, and your down to Favre
>throwing ~ 4-7 yards per COMPLETION. Granted, this my not be to
>Favre's fault, maybe Holmgren kept the passes simple. But if he did,
>he had a reason for it, and Favre being a good QB is not one of them.
>Holmgren sounds as though he is unsure of Favre, or so his quotes
>would read. He is still saying Favre needs A LOT of work and that he
>would prefer to have a more expirenced qb starting. 

Actually, if you take away the 76 yarder to Sharpe, Favre would
have averaged 10.3 yards per completion, which is a little low,
but still much higher than Majkowski's 7.1 yards per completion so
far this year.  Holmgren was more conservative against the
Steelers than he would've been had a more experienced QB been
playing (that's already been discussed in this group), and no
doubt Holmgren would like to have a solid, experienced QB
starting.  But does this describe Majkowski?

There's not much point in arguing over this, though I was
interested in people's opinions.  Holmgren is more intimately
familiar with both the offense and the QBs in question, and we're
going to end up waiting for his decision to become public anyhow.
And the Atlanta game could tell us a lot.  My best guess at this
point is that Favre is the man.

Favre's stats are much better than Majik's, he looks more
confident on the field, the team is 2-1 in games he's played at
least a half in (vs. 0-2 for Majkowski), Favre isn't throwing
interceptions, now that he's working with the starting center in
practice and not running into pulling guards he's not fumbling
(Majkowski fumbles a lot), he's got a strong arm and nice touch,
and he does a great job of dumping it off quickly at the last
second.

OK, I guess Favre should be in the Hall of Fame.  I don't really
expect him to continue like he has the past couple weeks, but if
he doesn't drop off too much, he's still an improvement over what
we've seen of Majkowski this year.
-- 

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Buffalo Bills
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

This post is for those Bills fans who have the nerve to put down a Dolphin team
that not only is undefeated but handed the Bills their Worst home loss in 
almost 8 yrs. First of all lets take a look at this supposedly best team in
the AFC. They have played 2 games so far against playoff caliber teams.
In their game against the 49er's their defense allowed over 600 total yds and
30 + pts. The Bills were able to out score the 49er's and hold on for the win.
Against the Dolphins the Bill's defense allowed 362 total yds and 31 pts.(6 int)
When called apon to stop the Miami offense the Bills weren't up to the task.
The Bill's offense also collapsed under the leadership of Jim Kelly. When
trailing by 14 Kelly became flustered and proved that he hasn't got what it
takes to pull a team from behind. If I was a Buffalo Bills fan, thank god i'm
not, I would be a bit worried if my team will be able to finish the season
as the best in their division. The following are games against playoff caliber
teams that the Bills have yet to face.

Nov 16 at Miami (Monday Night)  *Will Lose*
Dec 12 Denver
Dec 20 at New Orleans
Dec 27 at Houston (Sunday Night)

Their record so far  1-1  pts for: 47   pts against: 71 
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From: wytten@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dale Wyttenbach)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer news: Keith Millard
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:23:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: deci.wytten.718395824
Organization: University of Minnesota

I don't think a team would have to be "desparate" to pick up
Keith Millard.  As a Vikings fan, Millard being with the Packers scares
me at least as much as Browner being with the Bucs.

Regarding the "attitude problem": Look at the Vikings and Cris Carter.
Cris was released by Buddy Ryan and the Eagles because of an "attitude
problem" and now he's the Vikings leading receiver over the last year
and a half.

It will be interesting to see how Millard does at Green Bay.  I suspect
that even if he regains his old form he won't be as effective as he
was when he lined up next to Chris Doleman.  It seems that speed-oriented
pass rushers are simply double teamed all day unless that's impossible
because there's another outstanding pass rusher in the defense.

Dale
From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: da Bills and some other games(LIONS)
Date: 28 Sep 1992 03:48:32 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: Jim Kelly = god

In article <Bv9own.B9y@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
>
>	Oh yeah, I forgot to congratulate the Rams, the Pack, and da Bucs on
>awesome upset victories.  (I *especially* like to see Detroit lose...(:)  And
>here I was thinking the Lions were invincible at home (;  (;  (;
>
	I told all my friends there was no way the Lions were as good as
	their 12-4 record of last year. But no one believed me. Well, they
	are believing now. Lions will be lucky to get a 8-8 record. Does
	anyone think the Lions will lose more than 5 more games? I think
	they have a pretty tough schedule, so ill go with 8-8. Already
	1-3. :) God I love it. Now we gotta get those pesky bears with those
	Lions at the bottom, and get the Vikings,Packers, and Bucs above 'em.

	Mark
	GO VIKINGS!


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Packer Update
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 30 SEP 92 16:09:28    

In article <1992Sep30.172038.21764@cis.ohio-state.edu>, martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes...

> 
>Clarinews reports that Green Bay has placed James Campen on IR
>with sprained knee ligaments, and signed former Packer and 49er
>C-G Tom Neville to take his spot on the roster.
> 
>Also, I just noticed:  Vince Workman is running at 1000 yard pace.
>It's been awhile since someone other than Barry Sanders and Neal
>Anderson got 1000 yards in Green Bay, so this is nice to see.
> 
>Question:  Darryl Thompson is eligible to come off IR next week.
>Will he?  Does it matter?

I think Thompson could be very effective in this offense.  They've 
been running more 'pick your hole and make a cut' plays lately (which 
is Workman's strong suit).  But in week 1 and 2 about all they did 
were quick hitters up the middle (Thompson's strong suit).  Thompson 
would have gone over 100 yards if he had been in Workman's place 
against the Vikings - he's faster and more powerful.  He just can't 
make a cut worth a damn.

JGH
From: rich@quik.clearpoint.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Patriots News 9/22
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:55:08 GMT
	<1992Sep24.015424.19294@unlinfo.unl.edu>
	<JOHNDOE92Sep26.160940@squid.inmet> <1992Sep28.205406.156@osf.org>
Reply-To: rich@jasmine.clearpoint.com
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748


The major problem with the Patriots is just as it was before, they don't have a
Quarterback. Hugh Millen is one of those hot and cold players. He'll throw for 
100 yards one game and 400 the next. They are also lacking in wide receivers.
Irving Fryer is not the deep threat everybody thinks he his. They have not had
a decent wide out since Stanley Morgan. The rumor floating around New England
if things continue, that the Patriots will pursue either Gino Toretta(sp?)
from the University of Miami or Elvis Grbac from Michigan. Other rumors have
them chasing Mathews from Florida. All three are potential all star
Quarterbacks. I don't think Sam Jankovitch will tolerate this terrible 
perfomance for that much longer. The Patriots should draft high this year, and
they will most likely draft either a wide receiver or Quarterback first.

Rich
From: 3ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Booing Rodney Peete was Stupidity!!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:43:23 GMT
Organization: Central Michigan University


      At Sunday's Lions's v. Saints there were boos for Rodney Peete
and calls for Kramer.  Such behavior shows such immaturity in knowledge
of football.  Not that I'm an expert, far from it, but the *performance*
of Peete was not Peete's fault.  When you have the best running back in
the game looking less than mediocore, you have to know that something is
drastically wrong.  No one, much less Kramer, could have avoided the NO
pass rush.  The offensive line has been devastated.  There is no blocking.
Looking at Philadelphia, I see that Rodney has skills similar, though not
as sharp, to those of Randall Cunningham.  He needs time, like Barry needs
seams.
      The calls for Kramer were ludicrous.  Kramer, though a very good QB,
does not have the mobility of Peete.  There is something -- at the least
the offensive line -- wrong the Detroit offense.  It could be the offensive
schemes.  I don't know about Henning, except that he has been fired as a
head coach at least once.  The fact that Barry, the best back in football,
is averaging about 3 yards is indicative of something.
      The boos of Rodney, the calls for Kramer showed a lack of understanding
of what is happening.  Also, a lack of class on the part of Lions fans.

Go Rodney!!!!!!!
Robert Newby                        Internet: 3zasib3@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
Central Michigan University                         Bitnet: 3zasib3@cmuvm
Department of Sociology                           AT&Tnet: (517) 774-3410
Mt. Pleasant, MI  48859
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From: august@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov (Ray August)
Subject: Re: Best Performance
Organization: nasa-jsc
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:24:41 GMT

satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
: 
: The single best performance by a quarterback in a post season game (including
: all of Joe Montana's glory years) is by PHIL SIMMS (yay!) in the 1986 Super
: Bowl.  The pressed spoke of the opposing teams' great QB (Elway .. boo!) and
: Phil proved he belonged with the best of em going 22 for 25 for 287 yards,
: no interceptions.  In the second half of the game he was 10 for 10!
: 


I'm not sure, but wasn't the best post season performance by Doug 
Williams in the Super Bowl?  Many SB records were broken that day; it
was like everything the Redskins did worked.


--

The rayster             ** Go Oilers
                        ** Go Braves
                        ** Bulls in 93

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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Vikings vs Bears
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  6 OCT 92 16:39:21    

In article <92280.123308TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, <TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes...

>>How would you like it if *your* boss behaved like this?  I'd quit and go to
>>his main competitor and work my butt off for them.
> 
>Did Jim McMannon say this?

Could be - I heard it from Mike Tomczak but maybe he got it from 
McMahon.  :-)

JGH
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From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Subject: BROWNS..."not a clue"
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:01:21 GMT

Could someone please tell me what the hell is going on with the Browns,
I heard they just released James Brooks! What really pisses me off about
this whole thing is that the Browns fork out big bucks in signing bonuses
for Brooks and then promptly lose Slaughter who they despretly need, all 
because of MONEY! AAARGGHHH!! Why did the Browns sign Brooks in the first 
place? Belicheck and company certainly new they were strong at RB, I know
Metcalf was unsigned but so what.  I am really frustrated with this
organization right now, I really hope there is a method to this madness.

-- 
Jeff Nappi
Columbus Bell Labs
jjn@cbjjn.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: logan@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Richard Scott)
Subject: Re:Halftime Scores
Summary: get a grip
Keywords: selfishness
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:33:52 GMT

Geez, would you selfish guys get a grip?   Now answer me this according
to your warped logic : John is doing thousands of people the world over
a service, by posting the scores.  You say this is a waste of money and
'leeching off his company'.

By your logic COMPLAINING about someone doing this is even stupider and
more wasteful of your company's money, and does not one any good
anywhere!  So grow up and write something useful.  I have known John to
be at work at some odd hours, so I bet his company gets full value from
him, so don't make rash personal insults like that!

Richard

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Just noticed something...
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:29:14 GMT

In article <BvEC77.D9K@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v077mdph@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy) writes:
>	I just looked at the football news on another group, and I noticed that
>Buffalo is the only 4-0 team in the league!  I guess that means that the much-
>maligned Buffalo Bills are in first place in the AFC East, the AFC, and the
>league, for that matter!  Since they won't lose to Miami, and won't lose much
>all season, I guess we can expect the Bills to be in first place for a while!

True, but that's only because all the other undefeated teams have had a bye
week.  Barring ties, there is certain to be another 4-0 team (either Dallas
or Philly) after Monday.  Of course, there's a 90% chance Buffalo will be
5-0 by then -- nobody will get a chance to catch up in the time domain until
the Bills bye in week 7.  And then only if it's Dallas; Washington is going
to beat the Eagles (this is a loyal Redskins fan talking).

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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From: c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu 
Subject: Dallas was beaten by bad luck, not the eagles!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:26:00 GMT


Look at last night's game, a break here and there would have turned the game
to the opposite direction. Eagles got all the breaks --- Cunningham fumbled
twice, and lost none. Dallas was bad luck, especially in the first half ---
Martin's kick return should go all the way to give the Cowboys's a 14-10
lead. Instead, he bumped with his own guy and was stopped with even resulting
a field goal to tie the score at 10.

Besides, one weekness of the Cowboys was the rockie kicker. That made the
decision at the end of the first half extremely difficult for Jimmy. At
the eagle 33, he opted to try to draw the eagles offside on 4th down. If he
had a more consistent kicker, he would rather kick the field goal to tie
it. 


Oh, well, I am not impressed at all by the eagles. Granted, their defense
is the best right now, but how about their offense? Cunningham is a so-so
QB, definitely not the most completed QB in the game, IMHO.

Bob
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