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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Mutant Crossovers
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 05:17:16 GMT

In article <168BEF329.REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes:
>In article <102151@netnews.upenn.edu>
>dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue) writes:
> 
>>
>>Slight correction:
>>
>>Storm never went through the seige perilous...she was captured by Nanny before
>>the others went through.
> 
>Question: Is Nanny the same as Magneto's robot "Nanny" that showed up around
>UXM #112 or so?  This was the robot that took care of the X-Men while they
>were imprisoned in chairs that blocked their voluntary control of their
>bodies and powers.

Nope. This Nanny is a woman who used to work for Cameron Hodge's anti-mutant
cadre The Right. Her mutant power is low-level telepathy, which she can
augment with a chemical that she puts in her "fairy dust". Everything else
that she can do is an extension of the tachnology The Right gave her, or
the battlesuit she wears.

(I know I'm not right on some of the specfics, but the gist of my answer
is correct; she's not Magneto's robot.)

Jay (=
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From: c60c-3gg@web-1a.berkeley.edu ()
Subject: Re: Joe Jusko's Marvel Masterpieces -- X-People
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:54:04 GMT

In article <168BC9AFC.REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.002213.7068@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
>c60c-3gg@web-4e.berkeley.edu () writes:
> 
>>Few other card details IMHO: (not necessarily X-men)
>>	a) Magneto card was utterly stupid, Jusko had utensiles, and metal
>>tools flying his way while he's trying to shield his face (reminds me
>>of the What, if... issue when they had Magneto, Colossus, Iron Man,
>>stuck in the same elevator)
> 
>That's hilarious!  Which issue of What If was that??
> 
> 
> 
>*************************************************************************
>Rebecca A. Drayer, EMT-A        |   Rebecca@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
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>                                |   Silliman College, Yale University
> 
>"You can always tell a Harvard man, but you can't tell him much."
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> 


Don't quite remember, but it was a little over a year ago, if that helps 
at all.

Having been content with reading my friend's comics for the last five
years or so, I've just started my own collection just a few months
ago, so forgive me if I make any comments, and don't have the exact
refrences ready at hand.

							J.T.
From: dddawson@lpl.arizona.edu (Doug Dawson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: TRIO AS TRAITOR
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:57:11 GMT
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.

In article <Bz7xuF.CtM@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>The scientist that Kwaame is talking about was the one recently re-introduced
>in the X-Men (blank) title, in the incomprehensible Xavier Files storyline.
>Actually, this is a plot thread that goes back to the 60s. Marko had always
>worked along with the (elder) Xavier, and they were good friends. When
>Cain Marko (who would become the Juggernaut) needed a place to stay after,
>I believe, his parents died, the elder Xavier took him in.

   This seems to be somewhat reversed.  Marko worked with Xavier senior,
   correct.  But the Xavier senior died, remarrying Chuck's mom.  Chuck
   gets Marko as a stepdad, and the future Juggernaut becomes his
   stepbrother.

   This of course, was set up as a series of puns...Cain gets to
   constantly try to kill his brother, and Marko, Cain sounds a lot like
   Mark O' Cain...the Mark Of Cain from the original story.
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From: decesd@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Stephen De Cesare)
Subject: Re: Joe Jusko's Marvel Masterpieces -- X-People
Reply-To: decesd@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:06:05 GMT

I agree that the cards are great.  Cyclops is a great pose and Spiderman
looks good, also.  The only problem I have is that Jusko cannot seem to
get any of the faces right.  Apocalypse's face is probably the worst, but
Psyloche and Jean Grey look pretty bad, as well.  But if you ignore the
faces (and with bodies like that who wouldn't?) the cards are great.

Dan DeCesare
decesd@rpi.edu
From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Joe Jusko's Marvel Masterpieces -- X-People
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:01:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: YaleVM.168BC9AFC.REBECCA
Organization: Yale University

In article <1992Dec13.002213.7068@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
c60c-3gg@web-4e.berkeley.edu () writes:
 
>Few other card details IMHO: (not necessarily X-men)
>	a) Magneto card was utterly stupid, Jusko had utensiles, and metal
>tools flying his way while he's trying to shield his face (reminds me
>of the What, if... issue when they had Magneto, Colossus, Iron Man,
>stuck in the same elevator)
 
That's hilarious!  Which issue of What If was that??
 
 
 
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Rebecca A. Drayer, EMT-A        |   Rebecca@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
(a.k.a Organic Lass of the LNH) |   Computing Assistant
                                |   Silliman College, Yale University
 
"You can always tell a Harvard man, but you can't tell him much."
                                                    - Anonymous
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From: cat1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHAD ANDREW TANNER)
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Subject: Re: Rogue & Gambit (in X-Men #297)
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:20:52 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <schmidt2.724036712@husc8>, schmidt2@husc8.harvard.edu (Gary Schmidt)
 writes:
>Chris Holly <Maverick+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>
>>      As much as I hate to admit it.... I'll have to agree that I think
>>Marvel intends to show that when Gambit actually does touch
>>Rogue(probally kissing her) she will not absorb her powers...  I also
>>think that it is intentional that she hasn't used those absorbtion
>>powers since the last Savage Land Scenario.
>
>       Well, for the sake of trivia ... I seem to remember an issue in the
>Savage Land episodes where Rogue, Magneto, and Ka-Zar are attacked by a guy
>called "Barbarian" (I think), who looks mostly just like Forearm from the
>X-Force series. Rogue gives him a kiss, thinking he'll just collapse, but
>instead he says he likes it and kisses her again (i.e. nothing happens to him).
>Magneto zaps him before things get gruesome ... 8^) I wonder what that
>was about?
>


That was about, because she tried to "absorb" him before the genetic tinkering
of Magneto was completely set.  Remember, at this time she did not have super
strength, flying, or a poor southern accent.  It was only after the fight in
Zaladane's castle did all of these powers back.


And now for something completely different, any idea on when the Gambit
limited series (yes I like him, -- I bought an asbestos suit for this post) will come out and who will be working on it.  Heard that the
guy who did the Marvel Series III cards will be the artists.  Confirms,
Denials and the now world famous..........pez?
>
>                                               G.S. (no sig)
>
-- 
Always..Always remember:
Less is Less. More is More.
More is Better, and Twice as much is Good too.
Not enough is Bad, and too much is never Enough
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From: haughwt@sccm.stanford.edu (James Haughwout)
Subject: Re: Psylocke??? (spoilers?)
Organization: Scientific Computing/Computational Mathematics, Stanford
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 04:04:19 GMT

In article <schmidt2.724605606@husc11>, schmidt2@husc11.harvard.edu (Gary Schmidt) writes:
|> Hey, this is a sort of far-fetched theory, but ...
|> 
|> 
|> In the recent issue of X-men (not Uncanny), there is a brief scene of about
|> two pages or so in the Ginza district of Japan, where a woman dressed all in
|> purple beats the tar out of some nameless street gang members, apparently as
|> "practice". Then she takes off her mask and says "I'm ready to take revenge on
|> the X-men now", or something to that effect. It's remarked that she speaks
|> Japanese with an unusual accent. It's also shown that she has long purple hair.
|> 
|> Could this possibly be some relation to Psylocke? Like, for instance, suppose
|> we found out that the current Psylocke and the original Betsy Braddock were
|> somehow not the same person after all? Because when you think about it, the two
|> really have very little in common (except the purple hair!)
|> 
|> I doubt it, but it's a fun speculation ... 
|> 
|> 						-G.S. (no sig)

The purple hair, the aparently bionic eyes and the foreign accent made me (and probably
everyone else) wonder the same thing.  Way back in the original Captain Britian stuff (now in
the softcover graphic novel form), Betsey is shown to be someone who always wished she had
physical powers.  She even has her stint as Captain Britian until she has her eyes put out, and
telepathhically summons Brian, who bashes the guy's head in with a rock.  The post-fall of the
mutants, pre-Siege issues of Uncanny X-men show Psylock donning battle armor and at times very
subtly expressing a disgust with herself for not having physical powers. 

The first thing I thought when I saw this was "Oh sh*t! they did this with Cable/Stryfe,
Jean/Medelyne/Phoenix, Xavier/Mimic, Xavier/Skrull... now we're going to have some crap
about Psylocke not really being psylock all along.  Maybe she's some Counter Earth (not Earth
616) counter part to herself (like the Captain Britian's all over the place) or a copy
from mojo's bodyshop (remember the cameras in her eye's from the Longshot GN.  I just
am getting the feeling they're going to do something screwball with this AND Ilyana 
(as if bringing back Mikhail wasn't enough)--mayber even more of a reason to drop the X-comics.

Except of course X-Factor: IMHO #87 was very good--a whole issue of character analysis and
interaction, not muscles, breasts, and violence--a reminder of how bad the X-men are getting.  

Jim
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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: What is Wolverine's mutant power?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 10:25:28 EST

In article <1992Dec17.052658.955@news.columbia.edu>
jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf) writes:
 
>In one of the X-Men annuals (I think 11), Wolverine regenerates his whole body from a single cell.  Under those circumstances, his power was
augmented
>by a
>mystical gem, but I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it normally, given
>enough time.  I guess technically it would have to be one of those cells that
>carries all of you DNA traits in it (or do they all?  Any bio majors?)
 
Thank you, no.  I've already got plenty.  :-)
Seriously, though, every body cell (with exception of the egg and spem cells)
contains a complete copy of all 46 chromosomes.  Theoretically, it
should be possible to recreate an entire organism from a single cell (hence
all the science fiction cloning stories).  However, there are several problems
 
        1.) We don't have the technology yet.
        2.) None of Wolverine's memories should be cloned with him.  Since
            memories are thought to be the products of gene expression rather
            than the genes themselves, they wouldn't be reproduced during
            the cloning process.
        3.) The cloned body would be that of an infant.  Every time Wolvie
            regenerated himself, he'd have to wait a few decades before
            being able to return to the fight!  (Something I don't think he'd
           like very much.)
 
 
 
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Rebecca A. Drayer, EMT-A        |   Rebecca@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
(a.k.a Organic Lass of the LNH) |   Computing Assistant
                                |   Silliman College, Yale University
 
"You can always tell a Harvard man, but you can't tell him much."
                                                    - Anonymous
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From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Larry Trask: America's Most AntiMutant (was: Cable, Stryfe-the connection?)
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:09:11 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000) writes:

>> TRASK the guy who made the master mold, and some of his own memories are in
>> it was a Precog Mutant, he predicted who the 12 would be, it was no quess not
>> how he saw it at the time (but of cause that was before some new characters
>> were created)
>>
>Just to set the record straight, TRASK died waaay back in Avengers #104.

Just to set *your* record straight, TRASK had his mind melded with MasterMold,
as revealed waaay back in Hulk Annual #?

				Jamesa Willer
[don't call us, we'll call you]
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: Mutant teleporters
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:46:14 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>>> Vanisher (mutant?)
>
>Yes, Vanisher is a mutant.  His signature is the slow fade.

I remember X-Men #3, when he first appeared. The Vanisher was a pretty
quick fade back then. His recent appearances (in Fallen Angels, f'r instance)
have kept that bit of his powers constant, IMO.

>Sidewinder, previously of hte Serpent Society: His power is limited in range,
>and must do multiple teleportations.

And is not a mutant. His cape is a portable teleportation device. In fact,
most Marvel villains of any technological level (with the exception of most
Spider-Man tech foes) have access to teleportation devices:  the Viper and
Silver Samurai, to name two X-foes in particular, have rings that enable
them to do it. If they have the technology, Dr. Doom most certainly does.
And so on.

"I am considering
 The situation
 Can a villain be a villain all his life?"

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Comics for Sale! Wolvie! Xmen! more!
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:36:27 GMT
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <5009@equinox.unr.edu> menchett@dws007.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti) writes:
>Hello World,
>
>I have a ton of comic books, and I think I'm finally ready to part with
>some. You tell me what you need, and I'll tell you a price, because I
>probably have it, especially if it's from the last 7 years. (I do have
>some vintage, also)
>
>	I have lots of:
[...]
>	Groo (sorry, not for sale)
[...]

That's funny.  I thought that you would have learned from the last time you
posted this message (About a week ago or so ago) that the correct place for
this type of posting is rec.arts.comics.marketplace.

BTW, if the Groo issues are not for sale, why list them(again)?



Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |    one.
karthik@cs.columbia.edu    | By "recursion" I mean "defined by recursion".
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:24:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>>My undying awe goes to anyone who can come up with a more useless
>>power.
> How about this?  A mutant who can change the color of his urine.  (Like one
> of Piers Anthony's Xanthians)  Can you imagine what might happen.
> Random Person: "Oh my God, it's a Sentinel!!!"
> Mutant: "Don't worry; I'll save you!"  <whips out his "weapon" and starts
>                                           firing green piss>
> Yeah, it's dumb.  It's also 2:00 a.m. and I've got a really BIG final
> tomorrow...    :-)
				
		Only from Organic Lass!!!  ;-)

						wReam...
					Ultimate Ninja of LNH!!

P.S.  And I always thought the majority of the Hellions had stupid powers
until now!  :)

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From: rutley1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Ro Utley)
Subject: Lady Mariko
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:14:14 GMT

Quite simply, could somebody tell me how she died? When did she die?
 And how did Wolvie take it?


-Ro
_________________________________________________________________

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From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Subject: X-Factor: Polaris' new costune.  (was Re: X-Men 17 and X-Factor 87)
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:23:34 GMT

In article <72060@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>Joe said he wanted to design a new costume for Polaris.  I said fine, and
>worked it into the context of the story.
>
>The result is not to *my* taste...but it makes Joe happy...
>
>PAD


Mr. David,
	I loved the issue, but *please* tell us that the costume was a
one-episode-sorta-thing.  Polaris had a pretty bad first costume, but and
her X-Factor uniform was good because it showed us that not all X-women like
going around wearing next to nothing.  (Fanboys? *humph*  Who needs them?)
	If it come down to either the old uniform or Joe Q., well, maybe
this is why you go through so many artists. :-)

//Karthik


Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |    one.
karthik@cs.columbia.edu    | By "recursion" I mean "defined by recursion".
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Mutant Crossovers
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:22:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: njitgw.1992Dec16.152231.3495
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BzB4FL.60F@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
>And timing... didn't Betsy's encounter with the Hand and the race change
>occur after the Siege Perilous? I seem to remember Mandarin saying he had
>found Psylocke without any memories (apparently a result of the SP) and
>took advantage of that.  After Wolverine escaped the Reavers, he found
>Betsy in his own title ("What are you doing here? This is my book! Does
>the title say 'Wolverine and Psylocke'? No!") and rescues her from Mandarin
>during Acts of Vengeance.

Yes, it was after the Siege Perilous.  But Wolverine didn't find
Psylocke in his own series.  It occurred in the regular Uncanny
X-Men title.  I don't remember what Wolverine was doing in his
own book at the time.

-- 
Brian Perler			bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu
Obscure Trivia Lad, Legion of Net.Heroes Elder
"I wanna decide who lives and who dies"
	-Crow T. Robot, "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians," MST3K
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: What is Wolverine's mutant power?
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:02:51 GMT

In article <649@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca> idbremne@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Ian David Bremner) writes:
>Wolverine has a mutant-healing factor.  (Believed to be cellularly aware.)
>Aside 2:  Why didn't wolvie's hair grow back lickety-split in the environmental
>	  releases.  (i.e.  cool exploding spike in chest.)

Hair isn't alive, and cutting it off has no effect of any sort on living
tissue.

>Wolverine has adamantium (sp) bonded to his skeleton.
>Aside 3:  How do new red blood cells get released into his body?

"Bonded" does not mean  "totally covers the bone so that the inside is separate
from the outside."
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: What is Wolverine's mutant power?
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:00:41 GMT

REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes:

>In article <1992Dec17.052658.955@news.columbia.edu>
>jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf) writes:
> 
>>In one of the X-Men annuals (I think 11), Wolverine regenerates his whole body from a single cell.  Under those circumstances, his power was
>augmented
>>by a
>>mystical gem, but I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it normally, given
>>enough time.  I guess technically it would have to be one of those cells that
>>carries all of you DNA traits in it (or do they all?  Any bio majors?)
> 
>Thank you, no.  I've already got plenty.  :-)
>Seriously, though, every body cell (with exception of the egg and spem cells)
>contains a complete copy of all 46 chromosomes.  Theoretically, it
>should be possible to recreate an entire organism from a single cell (hence
>all the science fiction cloning stories).  However, there are several problems
> 
>        1.) We don't have the technology yet.
>        2.) None of Wolverine's memories should be cloned with him.  Since
>            memories are thought to be the products of gene expression rather
>            than the genes themselves, they wouldn't be reproduced during
>            the cloning process.
>        3.) The cloned body would be that of an infant.  Every time Wolvie
>            regenerated himself, he'd have to wait a few decades before
>            being able to return to the fight!  (Something I don't think he'd
>           like very much.)

	4.) External effects on him aren't encoded in DNA...
	    Ain't his adam.skel. (tm) an Added Plus?
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
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