HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wnbc@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Samuel Kaufman)
Subject: "Howard Stern Just Won't Shut Up" -- Pt. 3 of 7
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:35:33 GMT

	During the first year and a half, things went from worse to abysmal.  Almost daily, Fioravanti and Meheny would sit Stern down to two-hour meetings, trying desperately to agree on changes.  "Howard's a little cynical about the ability of people who don't do what he does on the air to tell him how to do something," says Sherman.  Metheny began giving Stern frantic hand signals to cut him off when he talked over his limit.  He even resorted to shutting off Stern's mike and using the seven-second delay.  Onc




e, during a show, he threw a telephone at Stern.
	Miserable, Stern and Quivers, who had finally come aboard, each gained about 50 pounds (which they've since lost), and a newscaster remarked on the air that Stern had the hips of a childbearing woman.  "I was begging them to let me out of my contract," Stern says, "but then something told me to shut up and wait them out - they'd leave first."  In the short run, he was right.
	To management's surprise, the show began to find an audience, and ratings began to climb.  Metheny, who compares negotiating with Stern to "an emotionally combustible chess game," concedes in retrospect that many of Stern's ideas about radio were right.  "As time went by, his program worked in spite of everything we'd believed," he says.  "We've come to recognize that some radio personalities can be compelling enough to break the rules."
	By January 1984, Metheny had left the station to become the vice-president of VH-1, the adult contemporary-music-video channel, and Dom Fioravanti had become senior vice-president and general manager of MTV.  WNBC's new general manager was Randy Bongarten, a man Stern would describe shortly before his firing as "one of the greatest people who ever lived."  Bongarten called Stern into his office and told him, "Okay, do your act.  Just be yourself."

-- 
*****************************************************************************
 In-Real-life: Joe Kaufman, University of Maryland College Park, MD, U.S.A.
------- "Howard Stern is number one, Magic Johnson will soon be done." ------
	wnbc@eng.umd.edu 	 phone: 1 301 699-9455        :----)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: Updates to Stern FAQ
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 13:20:10 GMT

In article <Sep.2.12.55.15.1992.16592@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>In article <9209011619.AA16151@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, pr@devmail.UUCP writes:
>
>] 6a Gary is now married (and yesterday it was suggested he look for
>]         other work if he wants to).
>
>Gary is asked/suggested/told to look for other work _every_ day.

As of this am's radio show (9/3):

He's beginning in Dallas on 9/8 (including a press conference, similar to what
he did in Cleveland.

He's talking to 2 TV stations re doing 12 TV specials per year.

He'll be appearing on the MTV awards, presenting an award, dressed as Fartman.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
From: bdowning@mary.fordham.edu (Brian Downing)
Subject: Re: Best of Howie!  and misc.stuff
Organization: Fordham University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Distribution: usa
Keywords: videotape
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:40:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: mary.fordham.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep3.204152.5306@wam.umd.edu>, wnbc@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Samuel Kaufman) writes...
>In article <Bu09F8.59q@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jon J Klaybor) writes:
>>
>>	First, I would like to thank all that have responded to my Best of 
>>Howard Stern videotape.  The response has been enormous!!  I will do my best
>>to keep up with the influx of requests...
 [MASSIVE OBNOXIOUS RAVING DELETED]
>*****************************************************************************
> In-Real-life: Joe Kaufman, University of Maryland College Park, MD, U.S.A.
>------- "Howard Stern is number one, Magic Johnson will soon be done." ------
>	wnbc@eng.umd.edu 	 phone: 1 301 699-9455        :----)

 Is this the same ASSHOLE "Joe Kaufman" who was posting his stupid
top ten jokes to this list? Now, you're telling these other Stern fans
how to sign their names, and what we can talk about? Anybody that sends
cash in your direction gets what they deserve, a big puckered asshole!
 Hey Joe, Don't go away mad, just go away! YOU DICK!

      Brian Downing                 bdowning@mary.fordham.edu

Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
From: shipley@merde.tfs (Pete Shipley)
Subject: Re: Chicago blues
Organization: Processed People for a Processed America
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:45:19 GMT



saw this in the paper...


        After exactly two years on television, "shock jock" disc jockey
Howard Stern's late-night talk-variety show has been canceled, officials of
superstation WWOR-TV announced.
        Stern was noted for his frank, politically incorrect humor and
sometimes lewd, lurid style.
        The show, seen locally on (KBHK) Channel 44 and on WWOR over cable
systems nationwide, reached 53 markets nationwide.

        -Associated Press.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: 8/29/92...
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:10:59 GMT

From article <1992Sep1.193118.2809@news.ysu.edu>, by af185@yfn.ysu.edu (Robin L. Gibson):
> 
> Was the show on t.v. this past Saturday, 8/29/92?
> My channel guide had it coming on one hour later than normal, and then
> they didn't show it at all (to my knowledge).  Someone let
> me know, please!

Robin -

	It was on KBHK here in the good ole Frisco Bay area.  It was the
first part of the Homeless Howiewood Squares.  It wasn't too long ago
that this was on.  If you haven't seen it yet, let me know - it's on
tape.

						- Tim
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jon J Klaybor)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
Subject: Best of Howie!
Keywords: videotape
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:56:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	First, I would like to thank all that have responded to my Best of 
Howard Stern videotape.  The response has been enormous!!  I will do my best
to keep up with the influx of requests...
	Second, just a thought or two.  It seems unfortunate that (this is from
what *I* gather) he will not be asked to do another season.  Even though he has
said many times that he "hated" doing the TV show, there is no doubt it was, 
from the start, an instant cult classic.  He cannot deny this.  I would hope he
would see this and somehow work something out with WWOR.
 	
Jonny B.
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
Subject: Re: Crucified by the FCC
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:48:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

rcw@cellar.org (Rob Wilson) writes:

>     Anybody out there know if it's possible to buy a copy of Howard
>Stern's "Crucified by the FCC" anymore??  I wasn't a big Stern fan
>back then so I missed out..  any and all info greatly appreciated.
>Thanks,

I have seen sealed copies for sale at CD shows and conventions,
especially during the last few weeks.  You might want to post on
rec.music.cd, this is the group were I have seen the most traffic
about Stern's release.

BTW, it seems it is not the collectible many thought it would be,
and some people who bought copies for an investment seem to be
dumping them now to reclaim their losses.


-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
__________________________________________________

"We're sailing on the wind of better days"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: Chicago blues
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:30:25 GMT

From article <92240.102150U51115@uicvm.uic.edu>, by <U51115@uicvm.uic.edu>:
>     It's been two weeks so far here and Howard hasn't had a new episode yet.

Only re-runs from now on...

> Does anybody know if the Stern show has been cancelled or are they on vacation?

cancelled

>     A couple of weeks ago on the tonight show, Jay Leno had Howard as his guest
>  and somewhere during the middle of the interview, Howard said that he was
> going to be in a movie called The_Adventures_of_Fartman. Can anybody confirm
> this or was he just joking. He also said that he's gonna leave his t.v. show
> and make the maovie which should be done within three years. Any reply would be
>  greatly appreciated.

It sounds like you heard right.  I'm not too sure about the three years,
though.

							- Tim
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
Subject: e-mail
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:23:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	hi, people.  If anyone who responded has NOT received my address and
all the details as of Friday, let me know.  Thanx.

Jonny B.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern
From: ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei)
Subject: Re: WIZARD's Up-Hill Bicycle Scene EXPLAINED!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:04:17 GMT

In article <jittlov.715436778@gumby.cs.caltech.edu> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:
>Several postings have expressed curiosity about the Hill-
>Climbing Bicycle scene in "THE WIZARD OF SPEED AND TIME"...

>Chuck Nicholas adds:

>OK, I checked.  It's a big hill.  The trees, telephone poles,
>etc, look OK.  Also, you can see the bottom of the hill where
>it flattens out.  I can't even imagine someone "riding" a bike
>backwards that great a distance & reversing the order of the
>film.  The shadows don't seem to move enough for stop motion.
>No wonder they call him The Wizard of Speed and Time!

>________________________________________ ___._`.*.'_._ ________
> Mike Jittlov - Wizard, etc       .   . +  * .o   o.* `.`. +.  
>  Hollywood, CA 90026-2714       '   *  . ' ' |\^/|  `. * .  *
>jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu  (: May All Your  \V/  Good Dreams
>  <& alt.fan.mike-jittlov>    and Fine Wishes  /_\  Come True:)
>============================================= _/ \_ ===========

      Mike, I'm glad to see your old .sig back!

     I looked at this clip briefly late last night (would have looked
more, but my 2-year old decided it was time to get up).
 
     I settled on the riding-backwards theory (and just now discovered
that Chuck had beaten me to the punch.)

     The hill climbing scene takes place in 3 cuts - the first is
about 3 seconds long, and the only interesting one. The other two
are much shorter, and Mike could easily be coasting uphill after
pedaling.

    In the first long cut Mike ascends the hill, while on the other
side of the road, a pedestrian descends the sidewalk with his back to
us, and a distant car drives away.

    There are two hints that lead me to think he's going backwards.
First, he wobbles as he rides a bit more than you'd expect. Second,
the (unzipped) WizJacket flaps in the wind, and seems to hug him
around the front, as if there were a breeze from the back. This is
confirmed by the second cut, where it is now flapping as if from a
breeze *in front*, as you would expect from forward riding.

    I think that the car and the pedestrian are both ringers, going
backwards for the duration of the take. It's brief enough that he
could have waited early on a Saturday or Sunday morning until the road
was otherwise deserted.

    It's barely possible that the WizJacket movement in the first take
is due to stop-motion artifacts, but Mike has denied using SM for this
shot.

Mike says:

>RIDING BACKWARDS THEORY:
>I tried that - but the bike isn't designed for backwards riding,
>and it was uncontrollable after more than a few feet.

      If I were a lawyer, I'd point out that this is not a flat
denial, but rather a statement that riding backwards is difficult.

     So Mike, tell us already: How'd you do it? You said you'd post
the solution, but I haven't seen it yet.

						Just another WizFan

							Peter Trei
							ptrei@mitre.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: woolstar@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Derek Woolverton)
Subject: Re: Wild Computer Animation and effects in the future
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:48:14 GMT

>> I have plans, big plans.  I talked to him about doing computer animation

jtidwell@athena.mit.edu (Jenifer P. Tidwell) writes:
> Cool!  But *just* ray-tracing?  Use your imagination... How about
> hand-drawn cels (with scanner or done directly on screen), image
> processing for depth-of-field and other FX, compositing, sequence
> editing, digitized video hacking, et cetera?  There's a lot of good
> software out there to do this kind of stuff, and if you have (or can
> afford) the hardware, it's worth playing with...
>   (Come to think of it, a lot of this can be done directly on a Mac.)

    Well I have the hardware:  PCs, Macs (with mega full color gr),
unix machines (inc. sgi's) so there's no shortage there (except maybe
room to sit, and power :-).  Image processing and compositing is no
problem.  Video hacking?  Well I don't have any video eq. of my own
right now, but that could change.  (I really wana abekas).  And I
write most of the software myself, so the possibilities are endless.
    To start with, I want to familiarize mike with what I have working
at this point, let him try it out, and then see what to do after that.
Five minute shorts mixing CG, cell animation and live action with
procedurally controlled compositing, layed out to OMNIMAX would be
great, but I don't think we'll start there.  Maybe a cheesy logo first :)
    Right now, I'm down in the depths of matrix math, and my 
sw compatriates are networking hacking from both ends (UNIX-MAC) to
get this working smoothly.  So I'm going to go back and work on it more.

	DWoolverton, Video Bits, woolstar@gumby
From: nanook@psycho.fidonet.org (Keith Dickinson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: WoSaT
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:03:27 EDT
Organization: Psycho: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway of St. Pete Florida

From: sprackle@rel8.ncsa.uiuc.edu (David Spracklen)
 > I was wondering if I am the only one to do a frame-
 > by-frame on Mike's animation sequences.  For those of
 > you who haven't done this, do it (beginning animation,
 > "Time Tripper" during time travel, and the bicycle as
 > the IRS man takes it away from the garage sale).

Take heart friend, for you are not the only sicko to do that.  I borrowed a
friends lazer disk player to play the disk that I purchased.  (you gotta be a
fan to buy a lazerdisk when you don't even OWN one!).  For one week, spending
about 6 hours a day I scoped over the entire movie (mundane as well as
effected scenes) to try to snatch immages that had subliminals.  I wrote down
the ones that were created with F/X but not most of the others.... Otherwise
I'd still be writing!!!

Yes... It is truly a sick world we live in....


Keith "It's only a movie!" Dickinson


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From: cc4b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Brian Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: WIZARD's Up-Hill Bicycle Scene EXPLAINED!
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:00:48 GMT
Organization: Senior, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


This probably won't explain Mike's great bicycle feat (without feet), but . . .

One particularly interesting bicycle effect is seen in the Muppet movies
- where they have single or multiple muppets riding bicycles - without
being large enough to hold people, or showing motors, etc.
They apparently used a combination of techniques (and lots of different
camera views) to achieve the final result.  Their early stuff has the
bicycle marionetted from a crain and the puppet controlled by radio,
mixed with close ups of an actual hand puppet.  The legs move because
they're attached to the pedals (which are, of course,  driven by the
wheels).  Later they did multiple characters and bicycles by connecting
bikes at the axel and marionetting or pulling them with wires from a
distance.  Again they intermixed these longer shots with close ups. 
These techniques were pretty effective for fooling children (and most
adults).


Obligatory fandom:
	Mike Jittlov - THE Mike Jittlov who make WoSaT?
	Must be, no one else's .sig shows up in bright green.


Chris


	ps.  and on a B&W monitor!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov,rec.bicycles,alt.cult-movies
From: ee0r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Elliott Conan Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: WIZARD's Up-Hill Bicycle Scene EXPLAINED!
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:11:05 GMT
	<1992Sep3.052334.23735@tigger.jvnc.net>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


My submission:

He held onto a car that was going really fast and then let go right
before the shot starts. Very, VERY dangerous (no helmet neither), but
it would work.

------
Eeyore
"Hey baby, wanna see my Codex Seraphinianus?"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: chuck@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Chuck A. Nicholas)
Subject: Up Hill Bicycle Scene in WOSAT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:22:44 GMT

>:) I kept getting hung up on the biz where the *inside* of the photomat

Along similar lines, the one scene in the film that I find most intriguing 
was when Mike rides his bike up the hill without pedalling it.  I mean his feet
are completely off of the pedals.  I watched it frame by frame and everything
else in the scene seems to be  moving normally, i.e. right direction, apparently
the right speed.  There is a person walking on the hill and some cars moving
around as well.  If this was done with stop motion, did you stop motion the
traffic as well?  The only other thing I can guess is a small electric motor
hidden in the back basket to push the bike?   

chuck@eecs.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Subject: Re: Jittlov Nude ? (was Re: Enya Nude ?)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:41:09 GMT

kdawson@AFIT.AF.MIL (KEVIN D. DAWSON) writes:






>                    :)






~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aww, geez - you let your guard down JUST ONCE, you
try to have A LITTLE INNOCENT FUN, and you even
check carefully for witnesses...

In September of 1981, the University of Rochester's
programming committee asked for "an biography, and a
picture that nobody's printed before", for the giant
URCON-III sci-fi convention's guidebook.

So I sent them my baby picture.

And they printed it.


-mjj
"objects may appear larger than they actually are" 

Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: cweller@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Catherine Weller)
Subject: Re: Flame bunker ready, Shields up
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:04:38 GMT

hiroki@AIX (Hiroki Morizono) writes:

>Who's Mike Jittlov?

>Curious
>hiroki


oh cheezwhiz...These Newbies.... ;)

Ok, here's a set of instructions, follow them before posting again:

1/  Beg/borrow/steal/rent a copy of "The Wizard of Speed and Time"

2/ Watch same, especially the nut in the green jacket (is *compliment*, Mike,
all my best friends are wierdos or sci-fi people)

3/ Get addicted to waykool FX *all* through the movie

4/ return to alt.fan.mike-jittlov and share the news of all the in-jokes
you've picked up by watching WoSaT again and again and again...

Have fun :)

Cath
cweller@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au
no bauf, no bart, no stupidquote(tm)...Oh well. :)
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: Teddy Bear in Pizza Resturaunt scene?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:44:07 PDT
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:

-> Everyone, except my Evil Business Partner, whose idea it was.
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Because of some shady backroom dealings, one of the local PBS
stations has earned itself the title "Evil Vile PBS Station" 
amongst a growing group of people.  The SF Bay Area is graced 
with 3 PBS stations.

It is amazing the number of folks who catch both references.

1)  That we are referring to KQED, Ch 9.
2)  It is a play on your term.



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From: homer@korova.uucp (Homer The Brave)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: Flame bunker ready, Shields up
Keywords: flame
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:35:15 CDT
Organization: VHF void tube of the mind (713) 492-2783

jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)

>>But perhaps I'd be better off letting the man himself answer this.
>>Over to you, Mike...
>
>Sigh
>
>My life is an open book.
>
>- Also available on VHS, and Laserdisk!

Hehe... well, you could categorically deny it and make Jittlov fans 
everywhere GUESS... Media jamming. Nothing like it... (especially when 
you created the thing to begin with... :)

Anyway, the main reason I like WoSaT is not so much the special effects, 
but that you obviously care about the subject matter. And the story 
itself is very believable.

First time I saw it was the night before I began shooting on my first 
(and last... :( ) industrial video. Seemed very appropriate...

BTW, Hi all! My first post here...

--
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        "where you can find the Zeta Greys SAFEWAYING themselves
                into the WONDERBREAD *heart* of America!"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: jeff@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Jeff Skaletsky)
Subject: Mike as GHOST ghost
Organization: Quake Public Access, San Fernando Valley, CA (818)362-6092
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:07:11 GMT

In article <jittlov.714735511@gumby.cs.caltech.edu> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:
>
>Oh yeah, I played the ghosts in GHOST  8o  [Casper smiley]
>
>-mjj

You DID!  I just had my daughter put it on the VCR, and fast-forward 
to the credits... and there you are - "Dark Ghost".

Couldn't tell it was you from the last "Dark Ghost" scene - but our
tape's got problems (from over-watching by the kids, I guess).

A friend at ILM?  Did you consult on the project, maybe?

By the way, we met a LOONG time ago - circa '76-77 - I used to work 
sales for Jack and Alice Pill at their movie equipment sales and 
rental place on Santa Monica in Hollywood...  You'd come around and 
show us your latest stuff...  

I had a friend, Beth, at Playhouse Pictures who also knew you...

I loved the "industry" digs in WOSAT, they were perfect!

Last time I tried to buy a copy of WOSAT it was around $90 - any plans
to get the price down to something reasonable???

Definitely time to screen it again - would rather buy it than rent...

-Jeff
From: hiroki@AIX (Hiroki Morizono)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Flame bunker ready, Shields up
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:50:23 GMT
Reply-To: hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota

Who's Mike Jittlov?

Curious
hiroki

hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov