From: fsjjp@acad3.alaska.edu (Whatya Want?  Get Screwed)
Subject: Learning Experience!! or Geeze, guess I got him pissed
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:55:00 GMT

        If you do not wish to read the following . hit -n- . when it asks
        you to.  This is the conversation between the DEITY and Myself.



=> DEITY reply to Stuart_Hall about his post to rec.games.empire

        > Stuart_Hall's Message
        = DEITY reply

>        I'm playing in a local game and RL has reared it's ugly head.  I 
>        asked for and received a co-ruler from this group.  Now the DEITY
>        is telling me to get rid of the Co-Ruler, since it's a 1 player
>        1 country game.  I cannot logically get rid of the co-ruler
>        and expect to come back, from a few weeks at a remote job site,
>        to a viable country.  I can login every few days, but am expecting
>        my co-ruler to run the country.  Should I get rid of the Co-Ruler
>        or tell the DEITY to kiss off.

= James .. you requested a week.  Your week is up.

>        Correct me if I'm wrong.....but as long as your co-ruler isn't
>        playing in the same game, or HAVE played in the current game,
>        the DEITY can not justify you getting rid of the co-ruler.  

= You are wrong.

>        The Deity is saying that my country has too much of an advantage.
>        With 2 people running the country.  Hell, I wish 2 players were running
>        the country....I'd be at the top of the power chart.

= James .. you'd need more talent than your current 2 players have.
= As to the top.  That requires skill, or Dumb luck.
= You have neither.

>        Well, any hints would be appreciated.

= Talk to me before you post another stupid message of this type.
= Next time you request help .. state a more accurate specific time.
=
= mark

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From: FXMAR@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Need advice
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=> DEITY (FXMAR@ACAD3.ALASKA.EDU)

        tell you what I'm going to do.
        the player is already chosen.
        and when I next contact him .. I'll give him the country.       
        when next you decide you want to play again, and have the time.
        the let me know .. and we'll see if the new player wants to quit...
        one has to admit the sub is doing ok .. for fighting
        a war that should have been over long ago. not bad at all.

        now .. I think we can agree on that. 

==> Stuart_Hall

Your just going to take away *MY* country .. just like that .. 

=> DEITY (FXMAR@ACAD3.ALASKA.EDU) 


        It's crossed my mind .. 
        something about reading throuth rec.empire the other day.

==> Stuart_Hall

What do you mean .. it crossed your mind .. 
so what if I posted to rec.games.empire .. hmm .. 
Are you telling me that *I* am forbidden to post there now that you 
are a computer consultant 

what are you going to do .. remove my account .. ?

=> DEITY

	james .. don't act the more a fool.

==> Stuart_Hall

I'm not acting the fool .. your making a big deal out of my 
using a co-ruler .. and now your threatening me with the removal
of *MY* COMPUTER ACCOUNT ... NO-WHERE is it in the rules
does it state that you can't use a co-ruler! ... There are conditions
of using a co-ruler:

	1)  The co-ruler cannot be in the same game as you 
		and cannot *HAVE PLAYED* in the same game.

	As such, I see no reason for not using a co-ruler .. MY current
co-ruler has not played in this game, other than my country .. nor
has he expressed a desire to join now .. In fact, he can only co-rule to
the 12 of this month at the latest, as he's got his own game starting up 
then ..

	My god Mark, You'd think I was a fucking criminal

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=====>  As of 1930 tonight, 5 minutes after I completed this conversation
        with the DEITY (Also known as BattleZone, Dire_Straights and other
        fodderous countries) he removed access to my country and gave it to
        a newbie.  Also I would like the Empire community to know that he
        has access to numerous accounts and like to request 2 - 4 countries
        per game (1 from each of his accounts) and ally them to form a power
        block.  Since I will not be playing in any of his games again,
        AND HE CANNOT REMOVE MY STUDENT ACCOUNT (although he does have the
        power to do it) due to his being on the bottom of the power chart
        of Computer Consultants (hehe) and My not doing anything illegal .. 
        Hence I wished to warn the Empire Community of this guy .. 

        Did the DEITY have the right to remove access to the country
        and give it away, or should he have just remove the country.

        His first mistake was taking the country away.
        His second mistake was in giving it to a newbie.
        His third mistake was he should have just removed the country.

        What say's the Empire Community.....

        Alright guys ... Flame away!!!!



Stuart_Hall
aka Corwin
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