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From: jhochman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joshua M Hochman)
Subject: Rollins Collector's Item For Sale
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:09:53 GMT

          For all you Rollins fans out there, I have an item that y'all might 
be interested in if you collect:

          A *signed* copy of a split 12" with Rollins live on one side and 
Gore, some swedish(??) band, live on the other side.  The cover is a black face
on a background of "Joe Cole is dead" repeated over and over.  The signature of
Rollins says:
                    -Rollins
                     In Hell


I will sell this to anyone for $35 (negotiable)


  send replies to jhochman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu


          >>>no tagline here<<<
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Jeff Robbins <jeffr@ora.com>
Subject: Re: ***Smashing Pumpkins in "singles"
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6FF1F83EB01416C@macjeff.ora.com>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:26:43 GMT
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Cambridge, MA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:29:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.050726.11222@nuscc.nus.sg> GOH KING SHY,
eng20015@nusunix1.nus.sg writes:
>		"Drown" by the Smashing Pumpkins in the "singles"
>	soundtrack is simply smashing, second only to "would?"
>	Can somebody tell me if that song is the type of music they
>	normally play? What albums have they released so far.
>
>	Wonder where i had been all this time to not notice a 
>	band like them. Thanx to those who can help me with the
>	questions.

I'm sure you're going to get a lot of this but,

 YES, they are GREAT!  _Gish_, their last album (on Caroline), is
amazing.  Buy it!
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: Important R.E.M. questions!
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:29:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.184630.12239@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Robert.M.McLennan@dartmouth.edu (Robert M. McLennan) writes:
>These questions came to mind as I was reading the discussion about the
>Made in Heaven soundtrack and the song "Romance" on eponymous.  My
>questions are: 
>
>2)  What other work have Berry, Buck, Mills or Stipe done?  (e.g. 
>Stipe with the Golden Palominos).
>

I believe that Bill, Peter and Mike were the backup band for Warren Zevon's
album "Sentimental Hygiene". It's cool, because it sounds exactly like
R.E.M. but with Zevon singing.
If I'm wrong, we'll hear all about it...
Alan
From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: negativland
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:37:28 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

thank god somebody finally mentioned good ol` negativland... i just got 
"the letter u and the numeral 2" the aother day and it is very interesting. 
well, speaking of whacjked out music, does anyone like good bands like
caroliner, the residents, any nrw zealand stuff (tall dwarfs, the jpse, 
peter jefferies), lowlife, severed heads, controlled bleeding,.curretn...
sorry, current 93, psychic t.v., the wedding presnt, etc...
From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM - sidewinder
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:03:13 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES) writes:
>down again. The reason they are not touring is that they are working on 
>yet another album to be released next year. They have apparently had quite a
>creative burst and are making the best out of it. Amazing since OoT was
>released only a year and a half ago. This way when they tour they will

I find it interesting that releasing an album every year and a half
constitutes a creative burst.  The early Beatles released 
about 2-3 albums a year.

Sugar just released an album, now they are touring, and they have 
nearly completed another album that they plan to release in March.

In comparison,  REM appears to have gotten fat, spoiled, and lazy.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Subject: Some more speculation on band names
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:16:29 GMT




    Echo and the Bunnymen - "it means, like, nothin'."  (Ian McCulloch)
    "We had this mate who kept suggesting all these names, like The Daz Men or
    Glisserol and the Fan Extractors. Echo and the Bunnymen was one of them. I
    thought it was just as stupid as the rest." (Will Sergeant)
    [wasn't Echo the name of the drum machine?   DF!]

This is probably true if thats what the band members say but I
discovered a kool piece of trivia anyway.  In one of their songs they
refer to a John Webster's plays "The White Devil" and "The Duchess of
Malfi".  There is a scene in one of these where two characters are
talking in a courtyard near a wall where they can hear their own
echos.  The way it was written after one character would say a line
like

CARDINAL: I don't know if I should kill her.

and the echo was written like another character:

ECHO: Kill her.

Since the echo usually highlights an important part of the line before
it creates an ironic effect.  I can post the excerpt if there is
interest for the exact reference.



    Spandau Ballet - Spandau is an area in Berlin; in the last century they had
    a ballet there. Friend of the band saw it written on a toilet wall. Gary
    Kemp: "Basically we used the name because it had a lot more mystery
    than Neasden Ballet."

I thought that it came more from Spandau prison where Nazi war
criminals were kept.

jv
From: dobias@cs.odu.edu (Julie DoBias)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: morrissey concert schedule
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:19:28 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA


Does anyone know if the state of Virginia is on Morrissey's current
concert tour?  More specifically, Williamsburg, Hampton, or Norfolk,
Va.?  I would appreciate any info on the tour!

                                   Thanks,
                                          Julie  dobias@cs.odu.edu
From: kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM (history)
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:49:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <Bw63rF.3nu@umassd.edu> s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>I have only liked REM for about 2 years now. If anyone has a summary of
>anything from their past, I would greatly appreciate if you email to 
>me. Thanks.
>
>
>                           Steve  (so. central rain)

Michael Stipe met Peter Buck at a record store.
Mike Mills and Bill Berry were childhood friends (Berry was the kind
of kid your mom told you to stay away from.  Mills was a goodie goodie.)

They all went to UGA (I think and they were politely "asked" to leave
the university once they got started up.

Michael Stipe was an art student and painted a lot (Reckoning cover is
his artwork).

Stipe was in a band called Gangster, Berry was in Love Tractor even
while rem had formed their group.

they played their first gig for a friend at a birthday party and did
some covers, ie Velvet Underground and some other big influences.

Played regularly at Tyrone's in Athens before their breakthrough.

recorded a few songs with friend Mitch Easter in a garage, hence
Chronic Town.  This is when IRS (Pres jay Boberg) recognized them.

Made some videos for Radio Free Europe, original Hibtone version
(Eponymous) and for Wolves, Lower.  The group hates the videos
and you'll probably never see them again.  This is so because the
company wanted band shots and the band didn't.

Michael refuses to lip synch.

1983 Murmur, opened up for the Police in Shae Stadium.  "Waste of
fucking time" says Buck.

1984 Reckoning, prompted by major events in their lives, the severe
floods in Athens while on tour (So. Central Rain), the death of Carol
Levy, very close friend (Time after Time, Camera) and the wear
and tear of touring (Little America).

1985 Fables of the Reconstruction
Reconstruction tour

1986 Lifes Rich Pageant
1987 Document
Work Tour

Constantly seen around Natalie Merchant of 10,000 Maniacs.  he would come
on stage to sing "Campfire Song" and she would come on stage to
sing "Swan Swan H".  They traveled together in Micahel's private
tour bus.  Hmmmm!  You decide.  Rumours anyone?!?

rem signs on with Warner Brothers causing Jay Boberg to puke in rage.

1988 Election Day, Green is released, but not before Eponymous
hits the shelves in retaliation for Green, although REM cooperated with
IRS in making Eponymous.

1989 Green World Tour

1991 Out of Time single Losing My Religion hits number one, a first in
rem history.  Album receives the publicity that every album before it
should have gotten but didn't

various appearences (London, MTV, opening for small bands in Athens.)

1992 AFTP
 
Buy the book "REMarks" by Tony Fletcher for a real treat...
--
I need something to fly over my grave again . . .  I need something to breathe.
				    r.e.m.
			        Kevin C. Welch
                         kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Re: Sidewinder Sleeps...
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:37:00 GMT

dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown) writes:

>In article <kbennett.718905567@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:

>>
>>TMBG don't have a cover of this, at least recorded.... It's a very old song,
>>based on the folk song Wimoweh (check your old Weavers or Pete Seeger records).
>Lena, I hate to break this to you, but TMBG do have a cover (of sorts) of
>The Lion Sleeps Tonight.  The song is called "The Guitar" off of _Apollo_18_
>and uses the EXACT melody as TLST only with slightly "giantized" lyrics.

>dug

Thanks dug!  I realized as soon as I sent this off, feeling stupid,
that there was a TMBG disc that I didn't possess, and that maybe I was
jumping the gun.  I was hoping no one would catch me (NOT on this group!)
but oh, well.  I'll be the first one to admit when I goofed.... oh, well.

One of these days, maybe when I have money, I'll get that disc....

:)

sheepishly corrected,
Lena
From: kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: R.E.M. countdown theory
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:35:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <4096@cvbnetPrime.COM> jsulliva@cvbnet.prime.com (mailhost) writes:
>From article <1992Oct9.113325.23437@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, by Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders):

>In an interview with Michael Stipe, he said that the name _Out of TIme_
>came about because they ran out of time in trying to agree on a name.
>Michael's suggestion was _Cat Butt_ while Peter Buck's has always been
>_Trolling for Olives_. The name of the new one comes from a diner(?)
>name in Athens, GA.

The name comes from a soul food restraunt in Athens Georgia,
Weaver D's I believe, or maybe D Weaver's --- most likely
D Weaver's.  Anyway, their motto is "automatic for the people",
or just plain "automatic".

>BTW, did anyone see that Rolling Stone magazine gave "Automatic" a
>5-star (classic) rating? They're generally pretty stingy with those, too.
>
>Anyone know what the other REM albums earned from RS?

Out of Time got 4 stars
I think Green got 4
Murmur and Reckoning got 4


Other than that, not really sure.

But, I wouldn't trust Rolling Stone.  Murmur should be 6 stars while
OOT should be three...

anyway...


kcw



--
I need something to fly over my grave again . . .  I need something to breathe.
				    r.e.m.
			        Kevin C. Welch
                         kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Morrissey thread?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:49:38 GMT

In article <Bw37qC.CzC@mtholyoke.edu> gewong@mtholyoke.edu (G.e.R.m.a.I.N) writes:
>
>all the Morriseyfans out there??   :-)
>
>Lets start a Morrisey thread...
>
>Hmm.. any suggestions?  Favourite Morrisey song maybe?
>

   Sure, here are mine:

  We Hate it When Morrissey Fans Try To Start Threads On Internet Accounts
  You're Not For Meat Fatty
  Glamorous Fool
  Some Girls Are Better Morrissey Addicts Than Others
  Heaven Now's I'm Morrissey Now
  There is a Bloke That Never Goes Out Of the Closet
  Please, Please, Please Let Me Get Out Of This Thread
  Found Found Found Found Found Spam Spam Spam Spam Eggs Found and Spam
  There is a Place For Me and My Hands
  Aging Rut
  Ouija Bored, Ouija Bored......


   Ok Ok so these are NOT real Morrissey songs.

  No offense to any Morrissey fan but isn't there are BETTER and more
  INTERESTING way to start a thread than "What's you favorite ???? song?" ???

                                                            K!z!K
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: na-rt451@andy.bgsu.edu (Ann Shea-Jipson)
Subject: mekons
Keywords: material
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:31:59 GMT


Any word on new stuff from the Mekons? Last I heard they were out of a
label.  I'm sure they'll be fine; this band has more lives than Shirley
MacLaine.
           -Christ in the Crackerjack
            
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: REM,subscribe
Reply-To: s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:52:08 GMT

I have seen many postings about murmur-request@athena.mit.edu
If anyone can tell me if you have to be in ftp nevada?
I don't know. Please email me some step by step directions. Thanks.

                                   Steve  (so.central rain)
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 12:30:10 -0400 
From: Chris Ferrall <ferrall+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL

I'd be interested in compiling a list of pop/rock songs dealing
with abortion (or the decision).  Here the ones I've come up with after 
five minutes:

"Bodies"                         Sex Pistols
"You Can't Be Too Strong"        Graham Parker
"Papa Don't Preach"              Madonna
"Emperor's New Clothes"          Sinead O'Connor

There must be many more.  

--Chris
From: MAB195@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Dave Kendall
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:49:02 GMT
 <1akkm1INNfb5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu><1992Oct3.200722.10211@u.washington.edu>
 <BvrLGw.Lxw@apollo.hp.com> <92282.093422JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <8epLlf200WBO01_2Zl@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

From what i heard Dave Kendall inhibited the inevitable fame of TMBG, when they
first came out, not really playing there videos and such even though they were
on the college charts for god knows how long, well he allegedly made a pass at
one of the John's and they shot him down ( he probably didn't have his piece on
 at the time). something to think about!
yet another member of the ever-growing I Hate Dave club
mab195
From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Have the Orb used Floyd samples ?
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:23:47 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Yes.  On their peel session, they repeatedly sample the four-note
guitar theme from part II of Pink Floyd's "Shine on you Crazy Diamond."
 There may be more, I don't know since I'm not a die hard Orb fan.

 - nathan
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ajipson@andy.bgsu.edu (arthur jipson)
Subject: Soul Asylum
Keywords: SOu[D[D[D[Doul Asylum
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:38:16 GMT


Does anyone have any info. on the upcoming Soul Asylum dates?  I have
recently bought the new LP and I thought that it was great!
From: mm68@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Lost Boy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: an odd question - any answers??
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:28:00 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

revitte@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (REVITTE DANIEL MURPHY) writes:
> Since this is one of my favorite new groups, I thought I'd pose this question to all of you. I hope you'll understand if this is not the proper place to post   requests like this. 
> B
>  Thanks for considering this and sorry for any inconvenience.
> Dan
> revitte@ucsu.colorado.edu
> A 
> 
>    =  I just got into all this net news stuff and came across these things called MUDs. They are where people can talk in real time and meet. BUT...all these MUDseem like 'Dungeons and Dralgons'-type activities. I have nothing against sci-fi and role-playing, but it just ain't my bag.
>    Are there any other kind of MUDs out there? MAybe one of just folks talking......not trying to kill each other????
> 
> revitte@ucsu.colorado.edu

  You are right, this is NOT the place for it. You could have posted it in 
  the MUD section or even the rpg section would have been more appropriate
  but anyway. I am not going to flame you its such a bloody silly thing to 
  do.

  Right, MUD's or Multi-user dungeons are in the main fantasy or D&D 
  orientated from my past experience. But there are a few others so I have
  heard that are not so D&D based. The general idea of MUD's is to better
  your character and this quite often means killing. But people can 
  co-operate and talk if they want to.

  Erm....your idea about 'folks just talking' is not exactly what MUD's are
  about I do not think. Such real-time communication (presumably outside of
  your establishment) would be very very expensive. 

  You will have to use this or email for discussion.

  I hope I have not trodden on anyones toes here, apologies (no flames!)
  to any on whose I may have.



-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: jesus and mary chain tour?
From: slam@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:45:23 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

> Jesus and Mary Chain / Curve Tour......
>         
> I know here in Houston, the JAMC and Curve are playing Nov. 13.  Yes!
> I am there.  This is a excellent combination of two bands.  I been a
> long time JAMC fan and have seen them play twice before.  Both excellent
> shows...
> As for the 'Rollercoaster' tour, I know the JAMC did a tour in England 
> called the 'Rollercoaster'.  Dont recall what bands were on the ticket but
> I remeber it was at least 5 bands.
Wait, the Mary Chain are continuing to tour?  This is beautiful.  I haven't
heard anything about it, could someone inform me of dates?  As far as
Rollercoaster, I know that they toured last spring in England with My Bloody
Valentine, Dino Jr., and Blur.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: XTC
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:01:25 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby) writes:
> Is Nonsuch up to their usual standards?  I've heard very varied 
> reports on this album- most people aren't too enthusiastic about 
> it. I'm holding  off buying this album until I hear some more 
> opinions. Any help would be  appreciated.

'Peter Pumpkinhead' is the most annoying song i've heard in a -long- 
time. if it's any indication of the rest of their stuff XTC is one 
band to stay waaaay clear of... unless, of course, you happen to 
like bland "yet another alternative band" music topped by ever-so-
nasal vocals.

jason "hell yeah, i'm opinionated" steiner

--
would you could you should you cross thru if i could wipe my eyes a blinding
compromise another pinky shave enlightens the brow now cow to die another day
if you prefer outside be blessed sir ostracize better bastard now forgotten
well instead of favored son of hell in hopes to open eyes - scaterd few, U
,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu ,`,`,`
From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Happy Flowers
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:33:53 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1b7cv5INNod8@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mccune@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jesse Brook McCune) writes:
>
>     I have been desperately trying to find anything by the Happy Flowers
> for over a year now...with absolutely no success...if anyone has any info.
> on where I can find any of their tapes, records, CD's or anything, or has
> info. on where I can get info., etc....please email me!!!
>
> record companies, labels, anything could help...
>
> mccune@wpi.wpi.edu
> 
>-jesse

Well - Homestead Records just issued a very nice CD compilation of
their 7"s, plus a *bunch* of extra tracks. This should be relatively
easy to find (most alternative stores stock Homestead stuff - if they
don't, tell them they suck). If not - there's Ajax mailorder which
distrubutes all new Homestead releases, and whose quality of
service is unparalleled in the industry.

Joshua Houk
-- 
houk@athena.cs.uga.edu * email for rockin' indie-list info!

Sun is whiter than whiter. Could be a witness to burning out my eyes.
   - Unrest
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From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Highly Recommended: Sky Cries Mary
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:27:02 GMT

I saw SCM at the Off-Ramp, a medium-small club here in Seattle, last night.
They are touring with Shriekback this fall and if you are debating whether
to go, I say DON'T MISS IT!

They are a laugh in the face to anyone who says that the "seattle sound"
all sounds the same or is dead.  There IS no "seattle sound."  There is a
city, and there are bands.  Got it?  Now on to Sky Cries Mary.

Psychedelic does not adquatly describe it.  Neitehr does tribal, rhythmic.
Shamanic, perhaps?  A wash of sound and mysticism, "everything in perfect
rhythm/everything in perfect motion."  A vision of love that is not trite
and 60's-ish -- it is THERE, and it feels good.  It will make you dance.
Stunning visuals, enchanting costumes, smoke and lights, candles and incense.
Interlacing male and female vocals, beautiful god and goddess chanting, it
is ritual even more than music.  Everything in perfect ... motion.

The 4-song CD "Exit at the Axis" will give you some idea, but the live
show is hypnotic like not to be believed.  I fully trust that they can take
over a large arena as well as if not better than they took over the off-ramp.
I can't wait (especially since I'm also a big Shriekback fan) for November 10!

Lena

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Hey, what happened to....
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:46:41 GMT

In article <Bw37qC.CzC@mtholyoke.edu> gewong@mtholyoke.edu (G.e.R.m.a.I.N) writes:
>
>all the Morriseyfans out there??   :-)
>
>Lets start a Morrisey thread... 
>
>Hmm.. any suggestions?  Favourite Morrisey song maybe?
>
You first.

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "Yow! Up ahead! It's a DONUT HUT!!"
From: AMS176@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: lost people
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:29:41 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Did anybody ever hear of a band called the Lost People, or the Lost Ones?
I saw them in Uniontown Pa during the summer.  Please Respond
             Tony Schiffbauer