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From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Any effort for TV & radio deregulation??
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:52:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: exodus.ld107nINNnr7
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <LMH.92Oct3235753@luke.lcs.mit.edu> (Minghsun Liu) writes:
>>>>>> On 3 Oct 92 18:57:51 GMT, yang-allan@CS.YALE.EDU (J. Allan Yang) said:
>
> > Surprisingly, and definitely unfortunately...the answer is no.  The
> > problem, IMHO, is not just in openning up the airways but also the
> > problem of the oppositions mustering enough man power and financial
> > support to set up a service that can attract a large group of
> > audiences. 
>
>=>> It is disturbing to hear that no candidates for Legislators care
>=>> about this issue. What are the issues they care the most?
>
The answer is clear and obvious. Those try to get more channels are not
working for the public benefits. They tend to use TV as a propaganda tool
for TI movement. They had done a lot even it is still against the law.

>A positive note to that is the advent of satellite communication has
>opened the eyes & ears of people in Taiwan to some truly global media.
>Though langauge barrier is still a problem.
>
There is one universal channel which is voiced in Hong Kong in Mandarin
to cover all Asian area via satellite. Mainland has opened up that Ch.

I believe that was what people asked about Chinese Channel 4. Some people
took it as illegal one in Taiwan. I watched a program made in Fujian,
the South Pipe of Min-nan, while I was in Beijing in August. Note: TIers,
and pro-TIers, the programs made in Fujian pronouncing better Min-nan 
(unlike the language in Taiwan is totally mixed up, Chuan-chow, Chang-chow,
Chao-chow and Japanese).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: sh0002@porsche (Scott Hou)
Subject: Chinese TV via Satellite
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:10:02 GMT


Hello, S.C.T.  If anyone is interested in getting a satellite dish
to receive the Chinese/Cantonese/Taiwanese Tv broadcast, please
send email to me.

--
Scott Hou                          phone: 612-574-8660
Consulting at Medtronic, Inc.      email: scott.hou@pace.medtronic.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ioguo@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (OA Guo)
Subject: Re: Taiwanese Government Is Not Only Selfish ... Re: TW News 16/9/92
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Sep 1992 09:41 EDT  

In article <80533@ut-emx.uucp> joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang) writes:
>In article <23SEP199209550521@mars.lerc.nasa.gov> (OA Guo) writes:
>>>What about democracy and "socialism with Chinese characteristics"?
>>
>>	As long as the "socialism with Chinese characteristics" is under
>>	the GREAT GUIDENCE of CCP, I don't give it any hope.
>
>Even if the CCP is led by people like Hu Yaobang and Zhao Ziyang?

    Joe:
	Sorry to say this.  But you are a kind of disappointing me in this
	discussion.  If a country runs depending only by who is the GREAT 
	LEADERS (so called "Wei3-Da4 Der0 Lieng3-Sio4"), then there is no
	hope.  System lasts, but people perish.  The problem with communist
	of even "socialism with Chinese characteristics" is that Party is
	put on top of the country, and there is no check balance of power.
	ABSOLUTE POWER DEEMS TO HAVE ABSOLUTE FAILURE.
> 
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NASA - Lewis Research Center  |view.  Nor should NASA's statements reflect
Cleveland, Ohio               |my point of view.
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From: dhm3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David H Ma)
Subject: Re: How to get in touch with TANET
Reply-To: dhm3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David H Ma)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:47:46 GMT

Please forward the information to me as well.

thanks

David Ma

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From: huangs@ecf.toronto.edu (HUANG SUNG CHING)
Subject: Re: A title for our student association
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:12:51 GMT

In article <8194@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> chang@ada.seas.ucla.edu (Fengteng Chang) writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.211752.15863@mtu.edu> ylchang@mtu.edu (CHANG) writes:
>>   We, a group of Chinese students (from Taiwan, of course), are going to 
>>establish a student associate for ourself, and we need some information
>>to name this group. Let me give you some background informations. There are
>>about 100 chinese students from mainland in this school, but only 16 within
>>them are from Taiwan. Those mainland chinese student have already had their 
>>student association,"Chinese Student and Scholar association", but we don't.
>>Now, we would like to find a name for our new association, which can easily
>>distinguish the difference between the two chinese student group, but not
>>so polotical. However, we also like to let people know that we are from "
>--------------
>>Republic of China in Taiwan" but not only "Taiwan". Wise netters, would you
>>contribute your wisdom to find a appropriate title for us? Thank you very
>>much.
>
>The best name to distinguish two student association from China and Taiwan
>is "Taiwanese Student Association".
>It is easy to understand and I do not see any political implication
>unless you are allergic to the name "Taiwan"   as KMT did.
>If you are allergic to the name "Taiwan", you can follow KMT's guideline,
>like Chinese Taipei Student Association as in the Olympic, TPKM Student
>Association as in the coming GATT, R.O.C.(on Taiwan) Student Association
>as KMT's promotion ads in USA. There are also a lot names like
>Council of North America Affair, Association of Asian Relation, Sun-Yat-Sen
>Association.... which can be modified to fit your need.

     I would like to suggest that the name Formosa can also be used instead of
Taiwan, Republic of China, or any other name.  Personally, I would prefer 
Taiwan, however, Formosa has no politics involved, since it comes from          Portuguese.  It describes Taiwan well. .
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Subject: <None>
From: cvadrbgf@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:25:47 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadrbgf

Hello, the purpose of this mail is for me to find somebody in Taiwan
that I can talk to, so maybe I can know the first hand information about
things happening in there, or just somebody to chat with.
                                                          Leanne!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: rchang@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Elvis Lives! )
Subject: The Purpose of ITASA Cultural Conf. at U of Illnois
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:38:12 GMT

As one of the co-founders of TASC (Taiwanese American Student Club) at U of
Illinois at Urbana, I am extremely displeased with the current flame war.

The purpose for the Cultural conference is to enlighten people about the 
current cultural trends in Taiwan.  We are trying to teach each other about
some of the activities that is popular in taiwan.  (if you look through the
schedule that was posted, we are running workshops on Tai Chi, Mah Jong,
etc.)
 
I don't care about your political, econmic or whatever position on Taiwan is.
That has absolutly NOTHING to do with this conference.

So, PLEASE stop this flame war and attacks on personal characteristics or
whatever.  But if you have any suggestions or complaints about the contents
of the ITASA Cultural conferecne.  Please feel free to contact me or
anyone that was listed on the original posting about the conference.

I apologize for the amount of bandwidth that has been wasted over some stupid
comment that was made, but I hope some good will come out of all this.  So
please come join us at the conference and I am sure you will go home with
some new knowledge about Taiwan.

Hope to see ya all in Nov.


					Chen-Yu Chang



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From: yang@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Der-Shung Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: TW News 28/9/92
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:26:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: m.1992Sep28.152606.513
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

elelyc@nuscc.nus.sg (Y.C. Liang) writes:


>ROH ARRIVED IN CHINA FOR HISTORIC VISIT

>BEIJING -- South Korean President Roh Tae Woo began a historic visit
>yesterday in Beijing, saying that it would help lay the groundwork for
>ending Cold War tensions with North Korea.

>He was greeted at the airport by Chinese Trade Minister Li Lanqing,
>Vice-Foreign Minister Xu Dunxin and several dozen Soth Koreans.


Shouldn't he be greeted by some more higher-rank officials from China?
Anybody care to comment?


--
DerShung Yang    
yang@cs.uiuc.edu 
Beckman Institute
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: jhuang@futon.SFSU.EDU (Jason C. Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: ASCII picture request.
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:50:23 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

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From: yy7085@eehp5.cen.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: TW News 28/9/92
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:56:24 GMT

yang@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Der-Shung Yang) writes:

>>ROH ARRIVED IN CHINA FOR HISTORIC VISIT


>Shouldn't he be greeted by some more higher-rank officials from China?
>Anybody care to comment?

Since several years, China has stoped the practice of sending the high ranking
officials to the airport to greet the national guests. The current policy is
that : someone ( not the very high ranking official ) will go to the airport 
and no official ceremony is held at the airport. Then an official greeting
ceremony, which will be hosted by high/higher ranking officials, will be held 
in TAM square. But of course, an official greeting ceremony in TAM may not be
held due to some reasons.


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	id <is37887@pro-amber.cts.com>; Mon, 28 Sep 92 10: 31 PDT
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Re: ITASA MIDWEST CONFERENCE, U OF ILLINOIS AT U-C
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 10:22:21 PDT

Maybe the bath versus shower group should have their own newsgroup,

                         alt.clean


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Internet: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-amber!rsopicki
From: hchiu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Hsu-Ju Chiu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: 3 questions for Taiwan's TV programs
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:53:57 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

HI, there:

Does anyone just come back from Taiwan?
I have 3 questions for Taiwan's TV programs.

(1)Are there any new(in the past year) interesting TV commercials in Taiwan
   lately?
(2)I heard that some famous U.S. anchorpersons are broadcasting news there
   by satellite. Does anyone know who they are?
(3)Does the Bill of Cable TV has been passed? What is the content of the
   regulations?

Thanks!!

HJ
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: Body odor, etc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 02:51:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Gee, what does this have to do with Taiwan?
Keywords: deoderant

Give it a rest, guys, or at least take it to E-mail.  I'm sure you all smell
like beautiful flowers in the Springtime...

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MultiMedia Information Systems Inc. | didn't want to be killed by a pile
kemnitz@netcom.com                  | of VMS manuals" :-)
                                    |
                                    | --A friend at DEC Palo Alto in the Quake
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From: y8321@carson.u.washington.edu (Yih-Jin Young)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Help -- Room Needed near Standford University
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:33:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Stanfard gradatue student (currently in Seattle until Oct 4) is
looking to share house with Chinese students (between Standard and
Mountain view). $200 - $350 /month.
Please respond immediately.

Contact lananh@max.u.washington.edu or 206-543-5033 for Loi. 
Note: Post for a friend.  Please do not respond to original poster.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong
From: aguo@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (aihua guo)
Subject: Re: GB-Code and Big-5 Code translation  Need Advice .
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:56:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.053738.14948@samba.oit.unc.edu> Denny.Chuang@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Denny Chuang) writes:
>
>    I'm looking for conversion software for GB-code <-> Big-5 Code. 
>
>	I'm also looking for utilities (shareware the best) to view big-5 code
>or GB-code under DOS & communication Programs like Telix or Procomm

You can try "chirk v1.2"  which can be found at "ahkcus.org". But it only
works on UNIX and a TeK40xx terminal (usually MSKERMIT can simulate this
terminal if your PC has VGA). Wish this helps.
From: jyu@sleepy.mti.sgi.com (James Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Big Brother
Date: 2 Oct 1992 20:46:34 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sleepy.mti.sgi.com

In article <5235@rosie.NeXT.COM>, ccliu@amy.next.com (Chang-Chi Liu)
writes:
|> In article <1a7uk5INN1j1@fido.asd.sgi.com> jyu@sleepy.mti.sgi.com
|> (James  
|> Yu) writes:
|> > By acting in such a childish manner, you guys have tarnished the
|> > reputation of UofI.  And as an ex-Illini, that's something I won't
|> > tolerate.  So either you guys shape up or I'll make sure your
|> > respective department heads will be informed of these immature
|> > behaviors.
|> 
|> The big brother mentality is at work again.  Does being an ex-Illini
|> give  
|> you certain moral authority over younger Illinis?  Trash is an
|> integral  
|> part of net life.  Those who posting trashes are within their rights
|> to  
|> shame themselves.  What do you mean by informing their department
|> heads?   
|> Do you think U.I. is like a Taiwanese high school?  Do you think the 
|> |> department heads would discipline(?) students just because their
|> postings  
|> are stupid?  I am not sure who is more immature.

Yes, these people certainly have the right to "shame themselves". 
However,
when they are doing it with:

1) taxpayer's money
2) alumni donation
3) the reputation of school on the line because of the image their
actions 
   project

then, I'm fully within my rights, as a person affected by their actions,
to
speak out my feelings about the misuse of resources mentioned above.  It
is
not about moral superiority at all.  If their actions do not impact the
University and all the people affliated with the school, then your 
accusations might have some basis.  But as it stand right now, that is 
clearly not the case.  Maybe you have some "moral authority" to say
something different?

BTW, I have no idea what a high school in Taiwan looks like, let alone
comparing what goes on in it with that of an university here in the
states.  So, don't make any assumption, huh?  

And when I do make a complaint, should I have sent them personal mail
and asked pretty please?  Be serious!

Lastly, I wasn't the one called their postings "stupid".  Yes, I did
refer
to their behaviors as "childish" and "immature" but that only applies
to
the fact that those exchanges belong to personal email and not wasting
#1 - #3
mentioned above.  If you want to disagree with me there, then disagree.
But don't start barking up the wrong tree with all your bogus
allegations.
Yeah, just who is being this big brother now?

James Yu

DISCLAIMER: My employer has nothing to do with this posting.
From: ay24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Adrian Yiu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: PLANE TICKETS
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:48:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wenVIMy00awY4mi1hz
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

For poeple who are going to Taiwan for CHRISTMAS, here are some good
news. The plane tickets are sold for about $750-780. But the date must
be December 13, 92 or before. If you are interested and more detail,
please call:
1-800-541-8442 for a person called LARRY. He will help you out.
I hope this will help budget you costs...
Good luck!!!

P.S. Please called him as soon as possible, the dead line dates are
these couple of days.
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From: tc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tieju Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: protection bill
Date: 26 Sep 92 08:14:20 GMT
	<1992Sep26.033208.197@news.iastate.edu>
Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.china: 26-Sep-92 protection bill
cyw@iastate.edu (163)

> Anyone care to comment on the possibility of presidential pocket veto of
> the protection bill.  We are trying to disscuss a technical question, NO
> politics
> please.


The possibility is high, if Congress won't have enough time to pass 10(
12?) days before it adjunts. I doubt that the President will sign the
Bill, but he may not want to veto the bill neither. So, the best
alternative for him to do is to pocket veto the bill by not signing it.

tie ju
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: lulu@ucrengr.ucr.edu (david lu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Shi-Ting won a game from Seles
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:34:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <19vkdhINNnoo@aludra.usc.edu> chunnan@aludra.usc.edu (Chunnan Hsu)
writes:
>
>Monica Seles eventually beat Shi-Ting Wang, 6-0, 6-1. 

Well, I guess it's better than 6-0, 6-0. 8-}

>We hope Shi-Ting and other tennis players from Taiwan have more chance
>to play with the top ranking player in the World, and we hope some of
>them can reach the top ranking in the near future.

Michael Chang was ranked #4 before going into the US Open.  Of course,
he is American, but at least he's Chinese-American.  I too would like
to see more Chinese Tennis players.  But Tennis is just not a very
popular sport in Taiwan. :(

				- David

-- 
---==lulu@ucrengr==---  just another overworked graduate student.
David T Lu, Amateur Thinker: lulu@ucrengr.ucr.edu, {ucsd, uci}!ucrengr!lulu
"I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle."
					- Arthur Dent, Hitchhiker's
From: ccliu@amy.next.com (Chang-Chi Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Big Brother
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:04:09 GMT

In article <1a7uk5INN1j1@fido.asd.sgi.com> jyu@sleepy.mti.sgi.com (James  
Yu) writes:
> By acting in such a childish manner, you guys have tarnished the
> reputation of UofI.  And as an ex-Illini, that's something I won't
> tolerate.  So either you guys shape up or I'll make sure your
> respective department heads will be informed of these immature
> behaviors.

The big brother mentality is at work again.  Does being an ex-Illini give  
you certain moral authority over younger Illinis?  Trash is an integral  
part of net life.  Those who posting trashes are within their rights to  
shame themselves.  What do you mean by informing their department heads?   
Do you think U.I. is like a Taiwanese high school?  Do you think the  
department heads would discipline(?) students just because their postings  
are stupid?  I am not sure who is more immature.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,git.club.chinese
From: wung@ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: tech Wed, Sep 23 1992
Reply-To: wung@ee.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:03:29 GMT

From usa-post@AmeriCast.Com ()
Subject: tech Wed, Sep 23 1992
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 04:36:28 EDT

09-23 0000
DECISIONLINE: Technology
USA TODAY Update
Sept. 23, 1992
Source: USA TODAY:Gannett National Information Network
    
TAIWAN TO GET HELICOPTERS:
   The White House said Tuesday it plans to sell anti-submarine 
helicopters to Taiwan. Congress has 30 days to approve or reject 
the sale of 12 SH-2F "LAMPS" anti-satellite and anti-ship 
helicopters to Taiwan. The anti-submarine helicopters, formally 
known as Light Airborne Multi-Purpose System helicopters, are 
manufactured by the Kaman Aerospace Corp.
    
BOEING GETS ORDER FROM TAIWAN:
   Taiwan-based EVA Airways has ordered two additional Boeing 
747-400s for a total of eight, the Boeing Commercial Airplane 
Group said Tuesday. The new two-plane order is valued at about 
$345 million with spare parts and training, Boeing said. In 
addition to the firm orders, EVA, a new carrier, holds two 
options. It will use General Electric engines on the planes.
    
Technology Editor: Ed Kelleher. (1-919-855-3491) Making copies of 
USA TODAY Update (Copyright, 1992) for further distribution 
violates federal law.
    

This article is copyright 1992 Gannett News Service.  Redistribution to
other sites is not permitted except by arrangement with American 
Cybercasting Corporation.  For more information, send-email to 
usa@AmeriCast.COM


 
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