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From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey)
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:23:43 GMT

In article <BxzA04.I6t@acsu.buffalo.edu> v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale) writes:
>
>
>hey, a question out there for anyone...
>
>	this weekend, two friends and i were tripping, and one of them got
>really sick. he equated it with being drunk, that it was as if his body was
>trying to "throw up" the acid, as it would throw up alcohol. although he had
>nothing in his stomach, he continued to have dry heaves and general naeusea
>for about an hour, maybe more. we've all done it quite a bit, and i have never
>heard or seen anyone else have this problem. also, no one else has gotten sick
>when tripping on this stuff. any ideas?
>
>keep smilin'
>(that permagrin smile!)
>amygurl

We're you doing anything real physically enduring, such as bike riding
or running. This will produce those results fro me occaisionally. I
believe that this is one of the side affects. Just like sweats,
cramps, etc.
From: kbelly@bu.edu (kenneth meyerson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: How to keep it stupid-fresh
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:57:38 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Try putting the weed in a zip-lock bag with orange peels in it.
Keeps the cannibas sativa FRESH!
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: HEMP PAPER! ORDER NOW! HERE'S HOW!
Date: 21 Nov 92 10:50:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

I guess the obvious question is, does burning the paper have any effect?

	Brian
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Acid consumption
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:25:35 GMT

In article <ringo.721944122@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes:
>saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
>>I know a FOAF who has taken appr. 60 LSD tablets in a period
>>of 3 years. 
>
>>(1) In comparaison with other LSD users, is this FOAF drug usage
>>    above normal? Can we say he is abusing the drug? What is the 
>>    average acid consumption for a user from your experience?
>
>Is it possible to abuse something that is non-addictive? To some people
>simply taking an illegal drug is abuse. It depends on your definition. 
>For me, it depends on why he's taking them, and not so much on how much
>he takes.
>
  Oh boy. And now we enter the realm of abuse. Would you say that
abuse is occuring for which of the following reasons?

1) He is taking the drug for fun.
2) He is taking it to experience something "mystical".
3) He is taking it to relieve boredom.
   OR dum dum de dumdum
4) He is using the drug to avoid pain (either physical or emotional).

  I would be curious to see what people feel about this question.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cadx721@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("Inigo Ruiz")
Subject: LSD and Speed
Organization: University of Strathclyde
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:09:22 GMT

	I have a friend who last summer tried speed and LSD on the same night
(plus some alcohol)...
He felt really bad for a few hours, Would it be becouse of the mixing?

	Inigo
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: David Honig@ics.uci.edu
Subject: Re: Sodium Pentatol - availability
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:16:38 GMT

 djohnsen@netcom.com (Don "nod" Johnsen) writes: 
>My wife and I were having a debate regarding the recently defeated measure 161
>in California, the right-to-die bill. I stated that methods of suicide, 
>including effective medical ones, are already available to those who wish to
>look hard enough.
>
>I suggested sodium pentatol (not sure if I'm spelling that correctly) as an 
>appropriate vehicle for demise, noting that I'd seen it listed as a drug of
>choice for lethal injections administered to condemmed people in some states.
>She challenged me as to its availability, and suggested I try and find some.
>
>As I'm not actually interested in commiting suicide, this is an academic
>pursuit - but is it possible to purchase it, or its precursors, on the open
>market? Is it tightly controlled? Can one make it at home?
>
>Ideas regarding other appropriate methods of demise would be welcomed.
>
>Sorry that it's not much of a recreational substance (or topic for that matter.)
>
>
>
>-- 
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Donald M. Johnsen                                         djohnsen@netcom.com
> Ambush Productions                                 Voicemail: (408) 450-2201
> Multimedia Engineering---Audio-Video-Computer-Design-Installation-Support---


pentothol is just a fast barbituate.  it does have recreational potentional
for fans of downers.  also great with vodka for offing yourself, as
are any barbies.


-- 
David Honig

Gun control is hitting your target.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: Acid consumption
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:15:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.184740.24033@bnr.ca> saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
>
>I know a FOAF who has taken appr. 60 LSD tablets in a period
>of 3 years. I'd like to tap the wisdom of this newsgroup and 
>ask the following:
>
>(1) In comparaison with other LSD users, is this FOAF drug usage
>    above normal? Can we say he is abusing the drug? What is the 
>    average acid consumption for a user from your experience?

Since most people don't take LSD at all, and (I imagine) most of those
who do take it only a few times (??????), his consumption is in some
sense "above normal".  But whether this usage constitutes abuse has much
more to do with how he is using it and what he is experiencing than the
consumption level.  

>(2) His peak consumption dates to about 5 years ago. Since then,
>    he only took a couple (5 or so). He did not experience any 
>    flashbacks at all. Should he expect secondary effects (flashbacks,
>    schizophrenia,...) in the years to come due to past LSD usage?

No.
From: vandedm@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: coke..
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:21:17 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

 
> No...I'll try to make this easier...  How much coke per day
> would someone have to use to make their nose collapse/disolve?
> A half ounce?  At a cost of *at least* $3500 a week?  In fact,
> could they even do enough to have this happen without ODing?
> I would guess that, if this account is true, these people were
> shoving alot more than coke up their noses.
>>
>>>Seems like people like to dispell only the propaganda that
>>>they want to (ie stryc in LSD).  Lets try to be rational about
>>>all of it...
>>

I remember reading somewhere that John Lennon had 
some nose surgery, because he had snorted too 
many drugs (including a shit load of coke).

It could be that other drugs could have ate away at his nose,
I believe that john snorted heroin because he was afraid of needles.

As far as the dispelling bit goes, Coke is pure crap.. 
Why spend $25 for a minimal buz that leaves you craving more
if you can spend $5 on a hit of acid and trip your nuts off
for 8 hrs+?

just my thoughts,
Danny.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Danny Van Der Meer, Western Kentucky University, vandedm@wkuvx1
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:51:14 EST
From: <NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Growing Weed
 <1992Nov11.073500.27797@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>

ck041@cleveland.Freenet.edu (Kevin Currie) writes:

:          Is there an FAQ on pot growing?     I want to know how to grow
:     on indoors...

Of course, I do not advocate or encourage the propagation of this
plant since it is a criminal offense, but I am aware that using a
black light (to give the plants each wavelength necessary for
growth) makes them grow reallllllly fast.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: What is Periactin?
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:31:08 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <jon.taylor.40.721950104@uuserv.cc.utah.edu> jon.taylor@uuserv.cc.utah.edu (JON M. TAYLOR) writes:
>	Hi.  A friend of mine who has (from what I understand) some kind of 
>obsessional disorder was in an institution some time back, and they gave her 
>something called Periactin (sp?).  We are curious as to what exactly this 
>stuff is.  Thanks for any help.

Periactin (cyproheptadine) is an antihistamine with some antiserotonin effects
which are mostly clinically insignificant.  The drug increases appetite and
can cause weight gain, possible due to its serotonin-blocking actions.  Usually
serotonergic drugs (i.e., drugs which facilitate serotonin-mediated nerve
transmissions) are useful in treating OCD.  Periactin is exactly the opposite.
It's occasionally been given to treat anorgasmia/delayed orgasm secondary to
treatment with MAO inhibitors, clomipramine (Anafranil) or fluoxetine (Prozac),
all of which would be called "serotonergic" agents.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Methadone
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:18:38 GMT

In article <1egvm9INNm1@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
writes:
>Do any of you `brains` out there no the history and philosophical intent
>behind methadone? I have to give an oral lecture Monday and any backgrou
d
>would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!
>
>Greg


 Well, too late now, but methadone therapy was intended to replace heroin
because of several key aspects in methadone's pharmacology: it lasts for
ca 24 hrs., it doesn't give a "rush" like heroin, but more of a kind of
"glow", and methadone withdrawal is far less unpleasant than heroin
withdrawal. That's it in a nutshell. Methadone was invented by Germans
around WWII I htink...

St. Anthony

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From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:27:06 GMT
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)

In <Mf1gbjq00Vo94z939m@andrew.cmu.edu> kg1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin Paul Goldman) writes:

>jagged@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:


>>Warning: First timers should not watch this because it envokes a sort
>>of paranoia that only experienced people know how to deal with. Even
>>for pro's it gets a little hairy towards the end. Have fun and don't
>>de-evolve!!!!!!!! 

>Substitute Altered States for Jacob's Ladder. It works there too.

Especially the old woman on the train staring at our boy after he gets off
the train... Brrrrrrr.... freaky...

>Mongo

Shckwish!
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: Pupil Dilation
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:54:07 GMT

 michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>Does [A] normally dilate pupils?   To an uncomfortable extent?

Yes.  Stimulants dilate, opiates contract.

Its not uncomfortable but bright lights might be more annoying.

>If your pupils were dilated (for whatever reason), and you'd rather
>they weren't what would be a good way to deal with this?
>
>*Just handle it?
>*Wear dark glasses?
>*Take something to shut them down a bit?  [If so, what?]

Something to reverse the effects would be hard to obtain and cause
its own side effects.  Just wear shades.  Not when driving at night though.

As long as you don't lose your cool, eye contact won't give you away (except
to the knowing).  "Well officer, its dark out..."  "Well officer, I've been
staring at a computer screen all day..."  Your tripping pupils will still
react to light by closing up, but their resting state is a mm or two larger
than normal.

And if you chose your parents right, you have dark eyes, and its not an issue.



--
David Honig

Gun control is hitting your target.
From: kougham@pell2l11.alleg.edu (Michael Koughhan)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:26:02 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College


	I gotta admit, Ken Russel's LITZOMANIA was by far the trippiest  
movie I ever saw, better even then BRAZIL by Terry Gilliam
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: coke..
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:14:16 GMT

In article <oexMaJa00VotM8YWoI@andrew.cmu.edu> Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>There have been many cases where people's noses were completely rotted
>off, leaving no cartiledge<spelling??>, no skin, no flesh.

Oh, yeah?  References, please.

Not that I doubt your veracity, but I doubt your veracity.

I've heard of people getting perforated septums, but not much worse than that
in the vast majority of cases (not that a perforated septum is something you
want to have, but it is a far cry from having one's nose rot off).

>Very Morbid

I assume you are referring to your imagination, and therefore agree.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Virtue is its own revenge.
				-E. Y. Harburg (1898-1981)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:49:18 GMT

In <1992Nov22.154132.28856@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo) writes:
>Be carefull, if this happens, the high-level can wind up thinking that
>the low-level has interupted, about once every five minutes. 
>Which wouldn't be so bad, except for when you actually do go try to
>shake the weasel, things get _real_ strange.  I guess the appropriate
>term would be "re-aquainted" with your, er, functions.  It then becomes
>a battle to convince your low-level that it really is ok to let go now.

This is amusing.  The most succinct description for me was something
I said once, along the lines of "I had to go to the bathroom all the
time.  It was like the Bathroom was everything, it was eternal,
it was infinite."

Guess you had to be there.  Good to see that someone has an explanation
of the phenomenon though....
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
          When you're swimmin in a creek, and an eel bites your cheek,
                               That's a Moray...
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo)
Subject: Re: Acid consumption
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:02:02 GMT

saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
>I know a FOAF who has taken appr. 60 LSD tablets in a period
>of 3 years. 

>(1) In comparaison with other LSD users, is this FOAF drug usage
>    above normal? Can we say he is abusing the drug? What is the 
>    average acid consumption for a user from your experience?

That is what a casual user would certainly consider a lot. I do know
people who have taken a lot more than that, in shorter periods of time,
and I wouldn't call them abusers. It depends on your definition of abuse.
Is it possible to abuse something that is non-addictive? To some people
simply taking an illegal drug is abuse. It depends on your definition. 
For me, it depends on why he's taking them, and not so much on how much
he takes.

>(2) His peak consumption dates to about 5 years ago. Since then,
>    he only took a couple (5 or so). He did not experience any 
>    flashbacks at all. Should he expect secondary effects (flashbacks,
>    schizophrenia,...) in the years to come due to past LSD usage?

Flashbacks are an undocumented phenomenon. Inasmuch as anything has been
proven as pertains to LSD use, there is sufficient proof that LSD does
not CAUSE flashbacks. There is a correllation between those who use LSD
and those who have psychedelic experiences while not under the influence
of the chemical, but there are a number of possible reasons for that.
As for schizophrenia, the literature states that LSD is only harmful for
those (appx 1% of the population) who are prone to the disease. LSD can
supposedly cause a 'primary psychotic episode' in those who PROBABLY would
have had one in any event.

It is my belief that unless he has a bad experience with LSD, such that 
he finds use of the drug to be 'scary' or traumatic, he won't suffer from
any ill effects usually associated with the chemical. Again, this notion
is backed by what most psychologists consider to be the causes of flashbacks.
If there is enough intrest, I will post about flashback causes (unfortunatly
I am unable to cite sources. I read, I remember, I reitterate. I don't 
reference often :)


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From: v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: acid and sickness
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



hey, a question out there for anyone...

	this weekend, two friends and i were tripping, and one of them got
really sick. he equated it with being drunk, that it was as if his body was
trying to "throw up" the acid, as it would throw up alcohol. although he had
nothing in his stomach, he continued to have dry heaves and general naeusea
for about an hour, maybe more. we've all done it quite a bit, and i have never
heard or seen anyone else have this problem. also, no one else has gotten sick
when tripping on this stuff. any ideas?

keep smilin'
(that permagrin smile!)
amygurl



	"i am the only guinea pig i have"
			---R.Buckminster Fuller
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: Jell-O Killer Gets Life Term (LSD-related)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:30:41 GMT

 bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower) writes:
>Isn't that an awfully expensive way to kill someone?  I always thought
>the lethal dose of LSD was ridiculously high.
>

You *can't* kill someone with lsd.  You *can* scare someone with a heart
problem to death.  Its *much* easier to scare someone when they're on
lsd, esp if they don't know it.



--
David Honig
"To get to the new paradigm, you don't just think about what it would be
like.  You put down stakes and try to start living in it."  Marc Weiser,
head of Comp Sci Lab, Xerox PARC, as reported in Advanced Imaging  Aug 92
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid & Dentist's Offices
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:23:51 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Nov23.210043.10751@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (infini-t) writes:
>
>I was just wondering if there was any substance or chemical one might
>find in a dentist's office that would increase traditional trip
>after-effects like trails or those thingys in your eyes, etc.  

Is this a trick question or what?  The answer is nitrous oxide (N2O). 
Experienced trippers say it mixes *very* well with LSD.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: fehlers@cs.utexas.edu (Todd Ehlers)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:57:00 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu

Has anybody been saving all these `Acid Music' suggestions?
I haven't saved any, and now that I think about it such a list might
come in handy if I EVER do have ANY money to buy cd's.

sorry, I'm just kinda down on my financial situation.

any help would be appreciated.  (to either of the above problems)

-- 
-tod ehlers
 fehlers@cs.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: harveytj@kirk.aston.ac.uk 
Subject: an unreasonable request
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  fluvoxitine  (prozac)
Organization: Aston University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:09:00 GMT

You *WANT* to take this stuff for *FUN*?!

	.....just curious......


	(had a real bad experience with it myself....AND I was taking it 
under medical supervision)

	Has it ANY enjoyable qualities/uses?

		Tamsyn

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.drugs.usenet
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: LSD manufacture
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:36:07 GMT

phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>Actually, the most important stuff on Usenet happens in organic processing
>units contained within the small, bulbous upper portions of the anatomies
>of a curious species referred to as homo sapiens sapiens -- so I would argue
>that Usenet is indeed organic.

Wow.  I thought you all were AI programs under development...  this is news
to me...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Ephadrine
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:33:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.214925.10972@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1dumfcINNogj@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>>Ephedrine is the oral form of Epinephrine, or adrenaline.
>
>This is wrong.  It's a different drug.
>
>Some pharmacists will not sell it to "questionable" customers, and it's
>an Rx-only drug in some states.
>
>-- 
>Steve Dyer
>dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
  Does anyone have a list of what states it is legal to sell
ephedrine OTC in? If someone out there could publish this, there
would be at least someone (me) who would be grateful!

			  THANKS    -Bruce-
From: stewahd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:29:47 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

trippy Music


Any live Grateful Dead
Led Zepplin
Negativeland
Primus
Skinny PUppy
Doors (try to talk to Morrison)...
Pink Floyd
Phish

well that is what we lisened to last night during are journey...

Negativeland 10-8 Place can be really fun if the first time you here
it is during a trip...
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