HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: CNN/USA Today Rankings (1/11)
Keywords: rankings
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:32:50 GMT

In article <C0oznt.768@babbage.ece.uc.edu> saji@snert.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji) writes:
>
> I don't know if anybody posts these rankings on a regular basis. As it is
> Monday morning and as the Bearcats have moved up in the rankings I am 
> posting the current Top-25 rankings.
>
>
>	USA TODAY /  CNN   TOP - 25  (Coaches Poll) (1/11/93)
>	-----------------------------------------------------
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       RANK	SCHOOL		RCD	POINTS		PRV
>							RANK
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>	1.  	Kentucky	11-0	832(26)		(2)
>	2.	Duke		10-1	798(5)		(1)
>	3.	Michigan	12-1	787(2)		(3)
>	4.	Indiana		13-2	720		(4)
>	5.	Kansas		11-1	719(1)		(6)
>	6.	North Carolina	12-1	689		(5)
>	7.	Seton Hall	13-1	640		(7)
>	8.	Georgia Tech.	9-1	606		(11)
>	9.	Oklahoma	11-2	535		(10)
>	10.	Arkansas	11-1	512		(13)
>	11.	CINCINNATI	9-1	441		(16)
>	12.	Arizona		7-2	404		(17)
>	13.	Iowa		11-2	397		(8)
>	14.	UCLA		10-3	373		(12)
>	15.	Purdue		9-2	335		(9)
>	16.	Connecticut	7-2	299		(19)
>	17.	UNLV		6-1	272		(14)
>	18.	Virginia	9-0	222		(--)
>	19.	Michigan State	8-3	185		(15)
>	20.	Georgetown	8-2	157		(18)
>	21.	Florida State	9-5	120		(23)
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

FSU moves all the way back up to 21 after a 2 point overtime victory over
Wake? Come on, jumping the gun a bit aren't we? FSU still has a lot to 
prove with its depleted roster.

>	22.	Ohio State	9-2	97		(--)
>	23.	Vanderbilt	11-3	96		(20)
>	24.	Minnesota	10-1	92		(--)
>	25.	Nebraska	11-3	83		(22)
>
>	Dropped Out: #22 UMASS, #24 BYU, #25 New Mexico State
>
>	Others Receiving Votes:	Boston College 69, Florida 66, UMASS 52,
>	New Mexico State 42, BYU 39, Southern Cal 38, Tulane 38, Utah 30,
>	Long Beach State 28, California 27, Pittsburgh 27, Houston 25, 
>        Illinois 24, Louisville 20, Xavier 17, Memphis State 15, Missouri 14,
>	Texas-El Paso 12, West Virginia 11, Wake Forest 9, Southwestern 
>	Louisiana State 3, Temple 2, Iowa State 1, Marquette 1, Maryland 1, 
>	Miami(Ohio) 1, New Orleans 1.
>
>
>
>  Aji
>
>
>  GO BEARCATS !!!!!!!!
>
>-- 
>  | 	Sandeep A. Aji			| saji@thor.ece.uc.edu      |
>  |     University of Cincinnati   	| saji@hagar.ece.uc.edu     |
>  |        FINAL FOUR 1992              | 	                    |
>  |                                     | 			    |

Kevin

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From: n9ljx@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott A Stembaugh)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Update (1-8-93)
Keywords: Big Ten
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 02:27:07 GMT

In article <C0K18B.1K8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>Thursday (1-7):
>
>
>Saturday (1-9):
>
>	(I'd like to tell you which games are on the Big Ten/Raycom
>	Game(s) of the Week, but I don't know myself!  The two I have
>	the times for aren't)
>
>	Illinois at Michigan State (7 pm Central)
>	Penn State at Indiana

       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Raycom 4 pm central
          
>	Iowa at Ohio State
>	Michigan at Wisconsin
>	Purdue at Minnesota (7 pm Central)
>


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: ACC Update update...
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 16:29:59 GMT


Ok, I just found out the cost of a semester subscription to the Tallahassee
Democrat: 35$. This counts me out (I _was_ willing to pay for part of the
cost, but this much money for such a shitty paper is rediculous...I simply
could not ask for anyone to put up that much money for this drivel). Unless
I can get someone to forward me Clarinet news posts (as someone mailed me
might be a possibility), I am out of the running for ACC Update person.

Kevin

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From: jmk.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Jim Kirkman)
Subject: Marty Blake on Hurley
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:26:38 GMT

Anybody hear the Ga. Tech radio feed on Sun.? CHL picked it up
locally. Anyway they interviewed Marty Blake, the chief scout
for the NBA scouting combine (or whatever they call it). He had
some interesting comments on Hurley and an article published in
the Atlanta paper. The article was basically a rave for Bobby,
lottery pick, point guard extroardinaire, second coming etc.
Blake basically said hogwash, he likes Hurley but sees him as no
more than a possible 1st or 2nd rounder. His main point seemed to
be that Bart would have a helluva time guarding people like 
Stockton, Price, et. al. The most interesting comment was in 
regards to Kenny Anderson, said Hurley "hasn't seen the day he 
could stay with Anderson" !!!???
Of course then there's Packer who called him what, the toughest 
player he's ever seen! Cummon  Fudge!
Should be a great game Wed nite in the Dome!! At least the Heels 
match up well from a size standpoint with Tech.

L.P.



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From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke/Oklahoma
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:34:41 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <C0E7Br.6pE@utdallas.edu> dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik) writes:
>What about the 360 Slam late in the game?  I thought it was stupid, but I loved
>it just the same.  Talk about in your face, Blue Devils.

Boy, was that guy pumped up.  I thought it was just poetic justice that
his team lost.  He must have graduated from the King Rice School of
Etiquette.

Interesting to note that not only was he the hero (the same fellow,
Angelo Hamilton, made the three that tied it at 74), but he was also the
goat.  His missed three - a really bad shot from at least 25 feet out -
with the score 80-76 in OT basically ended any chance OU had of winning
the game.

It's funny how often you see guys make a great play or two, then start
taunting the crowd and pointing up into the stands, who then lose their
concentration and wind up making crucial mistakes.

I think Grant Hill's elbow and Thomas Hill's finger were the only things
in anybody's face, incidentally.

- Rob Mac K



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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal score?
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:22:47 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1993Jan11.203153.7251@odin.corp.sgi.com>, kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
> I know it's early, but I think if Cal can beat Stanford this week, it 
> will be the key to Cal having a very good season.  

Whoa Ken - slow down now - nothing like going out on a limb eh? A "very
good season" - what the hell does that mean? Beating Stanford is the
key???? In the pac-10 this season???? I'm afraid I need you to clarify that
part of it for me.... 


			gln


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From: rga@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: Dean Smith (Re: UNC TARHEELS--1992/93 NCAA BSKTBLL. CHAMPS)
Keywords: The green light thing.
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:18:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.210949.16372@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
>Andy Brawn:
>
>> (Dean Smith's radio call-in show) he was asked whether or not Dante
>> Calabria had the green light to shoot "the three." (Dante, according to
>> the caller, is shooting 60% from 3pt range).  Smith's response was that
>> they had dropped the green light, yellow light, red light rule instead
>> requiring the players to recognize a good shot from a bad shot and to
>> use their judgement (or words to that effect).  He didn't say this but I
>> would judge this as an effort to reduce the hesitation some of the
>> players who should shoot an open three (Rodl, Sullivan, Reese) showed
>> last season.  It has, for the most part, worked.
>
>I take this to mean that Dean is/has recognized some of the shortcomings
>that Steve has tried to address. I also read where Derrick Phelps said
>that Coach Smith had reduced the number of set plays in order to open up
>the game a little and let the players relax a little more. Good call IMHO.
>
>Mike Dunnagan ----
>

Yeah, now if Dean would quit holding Donald Williams back, UNC would
really BE something ;).

Randy
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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Suffridge)
Subject: Re: Duke-Oklahoma Game Summary
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 15:04:02 GMT

oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day) writes:
: In article <1993Jan7.204036.14929@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
: 
: > Well I didn't want to give the impression that I think Grant gets away
: > with a lot of charges. I haven't really seen enough of him to say that.
: 
: I have.  He does.  But no more often than the other superstars.

 One of the worst I have seen in this regard is Allen Houston of Tennessee.
 Whenever he drives to the basket and is challenged by a defender he uses
 his left forearm to push off the defender.  Not only does he never get
 called for the charge but the defender usually gets called for a foul
 because of the contact.
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From an AP report:  Gore ... asked voters skeptical of their promise of
change to remember that every communist government in Eastern Europe had
fallen in 100 days. "Now it's our turn here in the United States," he said.
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: SWC info?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:05:23 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

In article <1993Jan11.163459.632@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> bsutesch@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>Will someone please post some information on how the
>SWC is doing?

Ok, here's the standings:

Ponies   1   0      7    4
Owls     1   0      6    4
Raiders  0   0      8    2
Bears    0   0      7    2
Cougars  0   0      6    2
Aggies   0   0      5    6
Froggies 0   0      2    7
Cattle   0   2      5    5

- goober (be sure and catch the owl-aggie game on prime tom. night) smith
From: whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Hurley vs. G-Tech
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:34:53 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <8507@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>
>Actually, I was watching the movie "Repo Man" on A&E this weekend and it
>is absolutely amazing how much Bobby Hurley looks like the young Emilio
>Estevez.  Especially with his newfound tan (such as it is) and
>straightened teeth (courtesy of off-season orthodontia).  
>He's the spitting image!
>- Rob Mac K
>


And the attitude is there, too!  Does this mean Bobby Hurley and Paula
Abdul will be sleeping together?  What will Arsenio say?  Personally, as
a guy and a Duke fan, I would say "Woo! Woo! Woo!".


-Will Gay
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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Hurley vs. G-Tech
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:02:13 GMT

In article 1is5rrINNge1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell) writes:
>|
>|     Could someone explain to me what the Tech fans have against Hurley in
>|particular (as opposed to Duke in general)?  I dunno what I missed; the
>|announcers on CBS didn't mention anything, but they (of course) booed every
>|time he touched the ball.  Or is it just because he's good?  (Please don't
>|start another Hurley flame war!)
>|
>|....Babbitt
>|-- 
>|David Caldwell (Babbitt on IRC)  E-mail:  CALDWELL@CWBIO.BIOC.CWRU.EDU)


The Tech students usually pick one person on the opposing team to boo.
It was J.R. Reid when he was at Carolina, Dawkins when he was at Duke, 
etc.  I'd take it as a compliment.  It means that the crowd knows that
particular player is bad news for the home team.


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From: wrl@pmafire.inel.gov (William Lechner)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:55:54 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Purdue and Reality
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

Anytime Matt (AOBP) Painter hits 4 or 5 treys and scores 14 points *and*
the Boilermakers are undefeated, it's time for a reality check.

Reality checks in on Thursday vs. Michigan.  Prepare for bad evening.

Bill
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:47:14
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
Distribution: na
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In-reply-to: kbowers@esrc1.berkeley.edu's message of Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:44:18 GMT

Well Ken thanks for explaining how in the world Cal could lose to two poor
excuses for Division I programs. (JMU has subsequently lost to American
University and Cornell is Ivy League for goodness sake). I've been on
vacation so I can't do my typical ranting about how Campanelli can't coach
but I have two words that typify my feelings on his style:

Billy Dreher
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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: The Gentelman is no Lady :) Re: That was no lady ...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:56:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.174229.20599@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu>
conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt) writes sincerely albeit badly:

>This is my personal opinion, so take it for what it's worth :).  In my
>view, the term "lady" is a term of respect, not one of degradation, not
>meant to imply weakness or subservience (is that a word?).  However, in
>the recent PC movement, these types of terms no longer are respectful,
>but are actually an insult to some people.  I am actually flattered when
>called a gentleman, not insulted that you've just called me a sexist,
>male-chauvanist pig by implication.

Okay.  Let's have Gentelmen Longhorns play Gentlemen Frogs and be 
getlemanly about it, gentlemen.  Let's have the Ladies just be Longhorns
and Frogs, since, we all know, ladies are no gentlemen.

>As far as team names, the distinction probably is kind-of useless,
>although in sports where both the men's and women's teams compete, like
>basketball, it is nice to have a distinction of some type.

Below you declare yourself to be against discrimination, but here you want
to have distinctions.  What's next?  Separate bathrooms? :)

>Paul (I'm against racism, sexism, any type of discrimination and 

				-- Marek

Summary:  The Lady thang is for the birds, an archaic remnant of sexism.
	  True respect for women = calling them by name, not a Lady name.
	
(Ps.  How about The Fighting Mrs.-Wannabe Irish?)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: thurston@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu (Tad Thurston)
Subject: Re: Kansas vs. Oklahoma -- Thoughts? 
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:28:35 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

orourke@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael O'Rourke) writes:


>Since I couldn't watch the game tonight, I was hoping that those of
>you with cable and True Insight into the game of college basketball
>could fill me in.  On the face of it, an 11 pt. win over improving
>Oklahoma at Lloyd Noble looks pretty damned impressive.  (Which is not
>to say that they *looked good* in winning; I'm sure that some team
>like, say, Indiana, would have looked much better, win or lose.)  Was
>it?  Did they play like a #4 team?  Or did they play like a #5 team?
>(UNC fans should be able to help me here.)

>It is good to see Walters score a little.  He must snap out of his
>prolonged slump if KU is to do anything in the Big Eight and beyond.
>Also, it is nice to see KU do well against a team that has impressive
>size in the frontcourt.  The last team they faced that had any size at
>all humiliated them.  (Of course, KU did not have Greg Ostertag -- The
>Most Underrated Back-up Center in the Country -- in the Michigan
>game.)  

>By the way, is it my imagination, or does the Big Eight suck this
>year?  Missouri losing to USF, K-State losing to Wichita State,
>Nebraska barely defeating UMKC, O-State being humbled by Cal, etc. And
>the conference is 2-8 against ranked non-conference opponents. KU and
>OU seem competitive, but the rest are marginal, at best.  NU and ISU
>have the talent, but they have been inconsistent.  The conference
>may only get 4 teams into the tournament.  (What has happened to
>Mizzou?  I thought they would be a Top 20 team this season.)

>Rock Chalk
>orourke@csli.stanford.edu


Kansas and Oklahoma really flip-flopped halves--a real Jeckyll and Hyde
affair.  In the first half, OU forced 12 turnovers and led by as many as
twelve and seemed in control.  In the second half, it was OU's turn to look
timid, and they only scored 10 points in the first 10 minutes before Terry 
Evans started to sink some wild 3's.  I have never seen the OU defense look 
Hopefully they can learn something about intensity and steal a few road games 
environment and shoot 66%.  

T.



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From: seifert@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Seifert)
Subject: Re: Duke-Tech game
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 14:28:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.202437.14790@oracle.us.oracle.com> mpollak@oracle.uucp (Maximilian Pollak) writes:
>
>Hi,
>

[stuff deleted]

>Getting back to basketball, it just seems that in the last few years GT hasn't 
>pulled together very well.  Coach Cremins always gets some awesome players, 
>butthen does not get a supporting cast to go along with them and when the big 
>star(s) leave it takes a while for somebody to step into the role vacated by a 
>starting player.
>
>I have nothing against the Yellow Jackets, but I just don't think Coach 
>Cremins is a very good coach.  

[ more stuff deleted ]

No, you are not flaming Ga Tech, you are flaming coach Cremins.

One question:

Did you ever hear of Ga Tech basketball before Cremins coached there?

>
>Max
>
>
>
>
>
>


Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: WAC Powers
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:39:41 -0700

>>Hmmm.. excuse me but isn't this the same BYU that lost to OSU and Oregon???
>>I may very well have misread the scores but if this is the case then I think
>>you might want to rethink your analysis. OSU and UO have been anything but 
>>strong thus far and are not expected to be contenders for the pac-10 crown - ok
>>so maybbe OSU is but they sure haven't shown it.....
>>
>>
> Yeah, you're right.  But consider that BYU had played 5 games in 8 days (remember
> their first three against Oklahoma, Memphis State, and Duke).  Also consider
> that in two weeks time they had taken finals (little practice), flown to Mauii (no
> practice), flown home for Xmas (no practice), and finally flown to Oregon.
> 
> They went 2 weeks with NO practices (said Roger Reid) and logged thousands of travel
> miles.  So they were worn out and got beat.  Not to take too much away from OSU
> and Oregon, but it WAS a factor.
> 
> Steve

Hey, one more excuse...BYU doesn't have practice on Sundays.  BYU flew into
Oregon on Saturday but wouldn't practice on Sunday for the games Monday and
Tuesday.  (Of course, this is the same excuse BYU had up their sleeve had 
they lossed to Oklahoma the Monday before.)

With just a few more excuses I might feel okay about BYU's showing in Portland.

arthur
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: UM-Purdue TV?
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:19:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan07.204458.16063@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>  
suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Suffridge) writes:

> : 	I see ESPN is carrying the big Illinois-Northwestern

>  Whoever did this bit of scheduling at ESPN deserves the "Bonehead
>  Move of the Year Award".

I wouldn't be suprised if their Big-10+1 TV agreement states that
ESPN must show at least one game from each team's home arena - so
they are getting Penn State and Northwestern out of the way in the
first week of conference play :)

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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke/Oklahoma
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:24:54 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day) writes:

 >Or that the no-call on the Grant Hill elbow resulting in the blood call
 >was ridiculous?

I thought the no-call was correct since Hill had jumped for a rebound
and was coming down; Hill's arm was nearly extended when it happened.
The replays showed this. That Oklahoma player happened to be in the 
wrong place; that is, he had his face right under Hill's elbow.  Hill
was looking up and thus wasn't aware of the Oklahoma player under his
arm.

 >> <N.B. why is Grant Hill usually around when another player is hurt?  I've
 >> seen this in several Duke games, hurting both teammates and opponents.  Is
 >> he a thug, or does he just lose control of his extremities?>
 >
 >A good question for which I don't have much of an answer.  He's not really
 >an out of control player, but he is off the ground a lot.....

Right.  I doubt that Hill is a thug like Laettner who probably threw 
elbows on purpose.  Don't you see the halo over Hill's head?

Many of you probably remember Hill knocking an UNLV player down with 
his shoulder (accidentally, too) during the semifinal in 1991 Final 
Four.  Again, no call.

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