HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bclark@jupiter.chi.il.us (Brian Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: File Info under Finder
Date: 4 Jan 93 05:57:12 CST
Organization: Jupiter Systems

stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:

>In article <2B4437A8.8399@ics.uci.edu> jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:
>>
>>I've noticed that since System 6, you can add personalize information
>>to file info.  I am not talking about the "comments" section (third
>>tab on the file info,) but how you can add company name,, version
>>number, etc. to the first "index-card."
>
>       This is accomplished through the rVersion resource (number 1).
>I forget the number exactly though.
>
>       You could add one using Foundation or Genesys, although, I
>haven't tried creating an rVersion from scratch from Foundation.

Huh?  Did I miss a newer version of Genesys?  I've got version 1.2.2
and it doesn't handle rVersion resources (or anything defined for System 6).
I know they completed a version 1.2.4, but they never offered an update
to it I don't think.  SSSi seems to be in shambles unfornately.   Rez can
do rVersions also, but then it'll do anything of course.


>>Is there a technote that will tell me how to do that?  I've recently
>>converted some .fli files, aand I would like to personalize them :)
>
>       I don't know of a technote off hand, but the info must exist
>somewhere... :)

Um, technote 76 and 100 cover it somewhat.  Toolbox volume 3 has a better
reference for it.

--
Brian Clark            bclark@jupiter.chi.il.us
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Help with uploading to unix site (not ftp.)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 11:04:10 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Try disabling as many escape and flow control characters as you can. I log
in to cco through a Xyplex box and I have to throw it into transparent mode
and disable the escape character in order to get a clean 8-bit connection.
If I don't, only kermit downloads will work.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had a transfer protocol that didn't use any control
characters and encoded binary data like binscii does? It'd be slower, but with
high speed modems and transparent compression and all that, you could probably
get away with it. Hmmm...

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: donaldf@pro-applebcs.UUCP (Donald Franklin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Gif to apple?
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:41:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Proline [pro-applebcs] Boston Computer Society

There is a freeware program called IIGIF, which allows your Apple II to
read and display GIF pictures. 
 
-Donald
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Lowercase characters for Apple][ +
Date: 7 Jan 1993 11:25:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

scip2060@nusunix1.nus.sg (SARDJONO INSANI) writes:

>Anyone knows how to modify the Apple ][ + keyboard to produce lowercase? 

Which model have you got? The earlier ones couldn't do it without software
support. The later ones had six solder pads and a couple jumpers you could
change to add a DPDT switch that served as a CAPS LOCK switch. If you have
the "two-piece" keyboard (there's a little PC board hanging off of the main
keyboard) then you are in luck. If you look at the little PC board then look
near the CONTROL/RESET switch and see if you can find a 2x3 pattern of holes
with exposed metal around them and two "bow ties" nearby. You may have to
partially disassemble the keyboard to find them, and you will definitely
need to do that to add the Caps Lock switch and cut the bow ties (the bow
ties are connections that make the board think there is a switch connected
but locked in one position, and you cut them with an exacto knife when you
install the real switch).

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: edward@pro-ren.cts.com (Edward Floden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: One keyboard for 2 computers
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:48:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Technological Renaissance Information eXchange

grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

>While I have never tried this, I have heard that connecting two machines
>to the same keyboard is a great way to burn out either your keyboard,
>or the ADB controller chips inside the computers.
>
>Perhaps you are looking for an 'A-B switch box' kind of connection.  That
>way you can use one keyboard and mouse, and use it between the two
>computers with a quick turn of a knob.

And connecting/disconnecting an ADB device while a Macintosh is powered on is
HIGHLY DISCOURAGED! (Read the manual.)

Although, I've been doing this to my IIgs for years, with no ill effects.
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Zip Chapter 11
Date: 11 Jan 1993 03:28:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


A call to Zip will tell you that they are not in Chapter 11 anymore and
have found a new manufactor to make the 8mhz chip, but that will take
up to 8 weeks. The information you read came from a bad source, this
information came direct from Zip's CEO and was passed through Ogg-Net.
I will post the article when I get a chance to take it off my board.
.
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From: keithk@ocf.berkeley.edu (Keith Kong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: kermit3.87
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:09:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

Can someone tell me where to find kermit3.87?  The one archive
that I know, wuarchive.wustl.edu, has it but when I finally
got everything unshrunk, I end up with kermit3.86!  I saw
in some old posting which said that kermit3.87 is available
at plains.nodak.edu, but ftping doesn't seeem to work
at that site (can't dir, ls, or cd).  Any help would be
appreciated.  By the way, whatever happened to the FAQ?

Keith Kong
From: mdgoodma@apgea.army.mil (Malcolm D. Goodman <mdgoodma>)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple ][ + for sale ** Nonworking *** 2 Disk Drives also
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:24:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: APG-Edgewood

This is basically an unknown to me.  It does not come on when turned
on.  Has some cards inside, I believe one is a ram card and the other
is some sort of terminal card.

I also have 2 Disk ][ drives to go with it.

Best Offer for the LOT.  But should aim at 25.00 minimum.

+ shipping.

Mack
mdgoodma@cbda8.apgea.army.mil
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apple2:26377 misc.forsale:34555
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,misc.forsale,mu.for-sale,mu.mcug.mac
Subject: Apple IIGS + Components
From: Steve (Democ) Harry <STHARRY@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 4 Jan 1993 19:35:23 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

For Sale:

Apple IIGS 3 Years old

Includes:

  CPU
  Keyboard
  RGB Color monitor
  System Saver
  Image Writer
  3.5 and 5.25 disc drives
  Mouse
  Some extra software
    Word Processing package
    games
    plus more

Price: $800 (Or Best Offer)

Contact by emai:
STHARRY@MIAVX1.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
STHARRY@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU

Contact by phone (Columbus area):
(614)-876-7586

Miami students call:
529-4457 or 529-4475 (Ask for Steve)

Will ship anywhere free of charge (with guaranteed shipping)
From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: CD-ROM usage
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 17:20:46 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

Philip McDunnough has scribed the following eloquent missive:

|The lack of a search engine for CD-ROM's on the GS means that you will
|simply not get any of these things for the GS. It's too bad as the GS
|is a natural here. You'd really have to switch to another pltaform or 
|even a game console. The GS's strong point is multimedia. This is also
|the area where it is standing still. Hyperstudio is great and laser 
discs
|will go a long ways, but the lack of CD-ROM software will very quickly 

|have a serious negative impact on the platform. Even worse, should 
Apple 
|drop the GS as an option for educational purchases then the short term 

|future will be bleak indeed. I can only assume that things are 
wherever 
|Hyperstudio and the VOC are. One can have years of useful time with 
the GS,
|but we are probably talking about a platform frozen in time. CD-ROM
|represents a very important medium. In a way, it will herald in a 
whole 
|new generation of applications (especially for children). 
| 
|On option is to get a CDTV/CD-I unit and hook it up through a VOC. 
This
|will get you the encyclopedias,etc...and much more.

Phil, what is required for the "search engine?"  What is a "CDTV/CD-I?"
It does seem worthy of note that there is no such "engine;" why hasn't
Roger Wagner written such for Hyper Studio?  I would think it would be
a natural?!?!?  My literate daughter (unlike me - besides, she's 
pretty)
could really use such an item and the ease of research for school 
projects
is obvious.                   Larry

InterNet: larry@lablues.UUCP
FidoNet:  1:132/300 Larry Schneider

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From: nparker@cie.uoregon.edu (Neil Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Fatal Error 0911
Date: 10 Jan 93 10:32:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1iotvjINNj5m
Organization: The Universal Society for the Prevention of Reality
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu

In article <1iomu3INN2ag@gap.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P.
Whitesel) writes:
>[...]                                                  Next time this happens,
>I'l going to try things like like scrubbing the contacts of the
>microcontroller (don't laugh, dust and humidity can cause very real problems
>for low-power CMOS) and re-connecting all my ADB cables in case the connectors
>are loose. I stopped getting 0911's soon after I switched on the heater for
>winter, so I may not have a chance to investigate this for a while.

As long as you're scrubbing contacts, it might not be a bad idea to check
the contacts of the key GLU too.  My own observations of the problem don't
rule out the possibility that some signal is getting lost between the
microcontroller and the CPU (i.e. in the GLU).

In my machine, both the microcontroller and the GLU are surface-mounted...I
can't imagine that trying to clean them would be much fun...

               - Neil Parker
--
Neil Parker                 No cute ASCII art...no cute quote...no cute
nparker@cie.uoregon.edu     disclaimer...no deposit, no return...
parker@corona.uoregon.edu   (This space intentionally left blank:           )
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: a question of storage
Date: 7 Jan 1993 10:49:02 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:

>Ahem, from what I saw from Todd P. Whitesel's (?) post said that it will
>_NOT_ read Mac/ProDOS disks.  I think he also said it wouldn't read MS-DOS
>disks.

Let me clarify then. It will read Mac/Prodos disks that are on 720k/1.44mb
media, but NOT 800k disks from the Apple 3.5. MS-DOS disks are dependent on
the FST coming out and it should work fine with them when that happens.

I have Mac disks formatted on an FDHD/Superdrive and the floptical reads them
fine.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: uucp availability
Date: 11 Jan 1993 00:40:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


L&L has Fruity Dog which links Internet via Fiddo/UUCP. Paul (Oggman)
is writting a gateway for Oggnet via L&L Support which will allow
our net to have at least the Apple2 message bases from Fido and Internet.
There ae a few problems to work out and some software has to be rewritten.
I'm not sure how long it will take but when something more is out I wil
let others know. The Gateway will be via L&L Support (GBBS).
.
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From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: One Keyboard for two computers.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 18:46:56 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Previously forde@uvg.eglin.af.mil (Eric S. Ford) wrote:
 
>Should be no problem at all.  The Mac keyboard will work quite nicely on
>the IIgs.  Just remember to power down both computers before swapping
>the keyboard from one to another.
>
>What?  You mean you want to have that one connected to both
>simultaneously? Amazing!  Hmmmm, don't see why you'd want that but then,
>I didn't ask did I?  Oh, well, if all you want to do is conserve disk
>space then there's no problem.  Personally, I'd put the extended
>keyboard on the IIgs and put the Mac into a storage closet bringing it
>out only for those rare occasions when I'd need it (like using AFE to
>copy IBM files onto disks for the GS).
 
Well I've got my extended keyboard exclusively connected to my GS, as for
my Mac, well it sits right about 5mm from my GS. I must admit, I rarely
power up my Classic. The major use for my Mac now is to transfer DOS
files and rescaleing GIFs to fit on my GS. As for a cheap solution of the
keyboard problem, I bought a $25.00 keyboard drawer and mounted it under
my desk. This way I can have two keyboards without taking up more desk
top space.
 
--
                                |    "ICKA BICKA SODA CRACKER
Herbert Fung                    |         ICKA BICKA BOO
Edmonton Remote Systems         |  ALL THE MEN THAT CHEW TOBACCO.
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |          OUT GOES YOU!"
                                |    Batman in Sword of Azrael.

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmh@aal.itd.umich.edu (Jeff Hansen)
Subject: Problem with UltraMacros: & path
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:52:29 EST
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan
Reply-To: jmh@umich.edu
Originator: jmh@apollo46


I can't get the "& path" in the following UltraMacros (3.1) macro to
work.  It compiles fine, and the rest of the macro works, it just
doesn't perform the path change.  I have other macros where I've
successfully used it.  Anyone have any experience using & path?

	L:<asr oa-q find if z = 0 then & path : & "/HD/APPLEWORKS/DB/" :
	esc rtn rtn find rtn else rtn endif>! Goto file $0, or load it

The macro, used as a subroutine, goes to the file in $0, and if it's not
on the desktop, it loads it.
-- 
Jeff Hansen
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Internet: jmh@umich.edu        BitNet: userHCQ7@UMICHUM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jhs@ipsa.reuter.com (Henri Schueler)
Subject: Re: One keyboard for 2 computers
Organization: H&h Software, Toronto, Ontario
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:20:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.184359.18595@src.honeywell.com> shankar@src.honeywell.com (Subash Shankar) writes:
>
>I have a Mac IIci and an Apple IIGS (please, no computer flames), which both
>use ADB keyboards.  To clear up desk space, is there any way of using the
>same keyboard for both computers?  Surely, somebody else has a similar
>problem?
>
I haven't had to do this with a MAC, but I have done it with a PC.

For the PC it was relatively easy. The PC keyboard has a 5 pin DIN connector.
I bought an AB switchbox (that had 3 of those DIN connectors, one 'input' and
two 'output'), plus 2 male-male DIN cables from my local
general purpose electronics store. I connect the keyboard to the input
port of the AB box, and connect each computer to the output ports using
the male-male cables.

The same technique should work for a MAC, except that you have a different
connector for the keyboards. I've not seen any AB boxes with ADB connectors,
but perhaps there are some, or perhaps some conversion cable exists.

It is important to note that this works because the PC doesn't care if
for example, you repeatedly unplug and plug back in its keyboard -- on some
computers this may not be acceptable. I'm not sure about the MAC. 

For what its worth, the reverse of what you want is possibly more
common (one computer usable from one of two keyboards, much like a shared
printer). You might ask in terms of this.

Oh yeah, one more thing: If you use any of num-lock, caps-lock, scroll-lock,
be prepared for problems. The reason is that this info is shared between
the keyboard and the computer -- if you flip your keyboard to the other
computer, you can expect inconsistencies and general weirdness.

/jhs



-- 
J. Henri Schueler, H&h Software, Toronto	+1 416 698 9075
From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: rom 1 to rom 3 upgrade
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:47:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon) writes...

>I beg yer pardon.... some of the machines sold in Europe and Canada, when
>booted, show "Rom 02"..... I have SEEN this... it did exist, and is rare..

	Well, I'm sure your mistaken. I've heard about a skipped "ROM 02"
prototype, yet it was never released in ANY version of the IIgs, unless you
saw the prototype ROMs. My ROM 3 came directly from Apple Canada, and I even had
the chance to visit Apple Canada's main office in Montreal, trying out a number
of cpus (all were clearly marked "ROM version 3"). There were a few Canadian-
ROM 3's that have the ROM CDA's (visit monitor/memory peeker) locked in with no 
way to disable them (according to Jim Ferr), but they're certainly not ROM 02s.
Btw, the it's offically called the "ROM version 3", not the "ROM version 03".

Mitchell Spector
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProDOS 8 busy?
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:07:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <9212311159.AA23769@apple.com> ST2975@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU writes:
>Is there an undocumented error code for ProDOS 8 busy
>similar to GS/OS busy?
>
>I was thinking of returning from a subroutine with a
>zero in the accumulator indicating that no error occurred
>but with the carry set to simulate a ProDOS 8 busy error.

There is no ProDOS 8 busy error code, although there is a P8 busy flag
on $BF00 page (you only need to check it if you're trying to make P8
calls from an interrupt, which is rare and tricky & only works for local
disks, not AppleShare network disks).

Internal to your program, if you want to use SEC/A=0 to flag some error
condition, that's no problem.  P8 won't return that.
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: One Keyboard for two computers.
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:17:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Should be no problem at all.  The Mac keyboard will work quite nicely on 
the IIgs.  Just remember to power down both computers before swapping the 
keyboard from one to another.

What?  You mean you want to have that one connected to both simultaneously? 
Amazing!  Hmmmm, don't see why you'd want that but then, I didn't ask did 
I?  Oh, well, if all you want to do is conserve disk space then there's no 
problem.  Personally, I'd put the extended keyboard on the IIgs and put the 
Mac into a storage closet bringing it out only for those rare occasions 
when I'd need it (like using AFE to copy IBM files onto disks for the GS).

Eric S. Ford
forde@uvg.eglin.af.mil

PS:  I didn't mean this to end up as a slam on the Mac it just 'EVOLVED' 
that way.
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: How do I get the current location of a window?
Keywords: window position
Date: 9 Jan 93 21:01:31 GMT

Re: getting location of a window

I found another way to do it: read the values of h1 and v1 from the
window's GrafPort's boundsRect and take the negative of those values.

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Bill Budge
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:38:03 GMT


Well, in my humble opinion, I'd say that Bill Budge is doing pretty
excellent. When he released his software in the early 1980's, those were the
boom years, and I think he made some big big bucks. I've lived in the San
Francisco Bay Area for more than 20 years, and I'd never been in a house
that had such a spectacular view. On a clear day, I bet he can see Hawaii.

He's an avid wind-surfer. And, his current project is to do a Pinball
Construction Set for the Sega genesis machine.

He provided me with binders filled with source code. If you remember back a
few months ago, I was asking about how to convert old DOS 3.2 13 sector
disks. That was why I was asking. Bill didn;t hand me any completed disks
that were sold. Just source code that had to be convrted and re-compiled. I
spent a number of hours, and got about 5 disks of pinball stuff, including
the original pinball.

It was all sent along to Tim Tobin, the coordinator of the Lost Classic
Project, and he recruited you-know-who to whip it all into shape. For those
without an imagination, that's Burger Bill.

Tim Tobin says real soon now.

Joe Kohn
From: JKG2@psuvm.psu.edu (Dr. John King Gamble Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Zip Chapter 11
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:47:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.93010.114757JKG2
Organization: Penn State University

Be careful about ordering ZIP Technologies products. They have filed Chapter 11
They have announced that they can no longer replace Zip Chips for the //e
One can only guess what will happen with the GS boards.

...found on my local BBS...
Thomas Kishel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2