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From: kuch@reed.edu (Jerry Kuch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How's this for a solution
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:39:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug18.183940.14768
Organization: Joseph McCarthy's Happiness and Openness Society

In article <66299@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt2038a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2038a gt2038a BROWNING,CHRIS SHERMAN) writes:
>Here's some food for thought
>
>Why doesn't C= make a port of windows NT for the amiga.  I'm not say that
>we should use NT as a replacement of AmigaDOS, rather that they make an
>"emulator" that understands Windows NT commands and can make it work on
>the amiga.  Supposedly, NT is portable to many platforms and that programs
>made to run on NT don't need to know about the hardware it is running on.
>Nt programs just need to know Windows NT, and the windows NT program takes
>care of talking to the OS/hardware.  This way, programs written for NT
>would work on the Amiga with little or no conversion problems.  This assumes
>ofcourse that NT catches on.

Well, legal aspects aside, do you have any idea how big a proposition this 
would end up being?  Admittedly NT is being designed with portability in 
mind across present Intel, and future RISC flatforms, but there's no real
public indication at this point that it will ever get moved to the 680x0 
line.

And trying to glue the NT API on top of AmigaOS would be pretty counter-
productive, compared to building an Amiga/680x0 native NT port.

It's a nice thought, sort of...  but not very practical.  The addition
of an integrated virtual memory system to the current Amiga OS, along
with fully retargetable graphics support, an attempt at device independent
audio (although this is less important at the moment than the graphics),
and maybe memory protection (although there are some arguments against
it, that appear here from time to time) seem much more sensible at this
point in time than call conversion kludges.  Especially considering that
there will be a fair number of NT OS functions that aren't really present
in the current Amiga OS.

I remember reading at some point in the past that a vendor of 680x0 based
workstations had been contacted about possible NT porting but shown very
little interesting.  Of course this came out of a rumors column, so take
it with a grain of salt.

BTW, everything in this message is my own babbling and has nothing to do
with Microsoft, its policies, its groundskeepers, its cafeterias, its plans,
etc., and blah blah blah.

>
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>gt2038a@prism.gatech.edu  me NOTHING     ESML /EIB


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: plummer@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Dave Plummer)
Subject: Re: How's this for a solution
Reply-To: plummer@hercules.uregina.ca (Dave Plummer)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:28:10 GMT

>What advantages would it offer an Amiga owner to load NT?  MS won't be able to
>deliver a large base of WinNT applications, the hardware requirements for NT
>are *enormous*(OS/2:AmigaDOS::WinNT:OS/2 for anybody who remembers the SATs),
>and there is very little that WinNT can do that AmigaDOS can't.  Porting WinNT
>will be about as successful as the porting of Unix to the Amy:  very expensive,
>with very little added value.
> 
>John

Let's be reasonable here.  If you are unfamilliar with NT, fine, but it looks
as though it will finally emcompass most of the things that have made Amiga
users proud and/or arrogant for the last several years.  Unfortunately (or
fortunately, for us multi-platform people) it goes beyond that in terms
of security, networking, and memory protection.

I'd love to see NT eventually make it to the Amiga, but that would happen
only long after the Mac, which will be some time after the MIPS.  

Although Bill Gates claimed he would develop for any operating system with
1000000 installed systems (well, I heard he claimed that, so sue me), now
that the Amiga has better than three times that I still don't even see 
something as basic as Works.  I guess there's always MS-BASIC :-)

Let's face it, it would be impossible to port AmigaDOS to PC-Compatible
hardware, so maybe if we're luck Windows NT will someday make it to
Amiga hardware.  But don't hold your breath.


Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:12882 comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:5806
From: dvaz@dvtown.UUCP (David Vazquez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Networking and databases (Oracle)
Distribution: world
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:09:12 CST
Organization: Not an Organization

Does anyone know of any attempts made to get an Amiga (network card
installed) to link up with an Oracle database server?  If so, how (with
SPX/IPX or TCP/IP)?

I'd also like any info on any of the networking cards available for the
Amiga.	How is the interface with the card accomplished (a network.device
perhaps)?  I've also heard (seen it advertised actually) about a TCP/IP
driver for the Amiga; anyone use it (also how is this managed)?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.comm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (The Code Slinger)
Subject: Preferences saving loc on a A2000
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Preferences saving location
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:46:00 GMT

I am trying to help a fellow Amigan with his A2000 setup.  He's had it
for a year or so and had somebody from a shop set up all the startup
stuff for him. (My friend is more of a user and less of a programmer)
Anyway, the guy who set up a lot of the stuff for him, has since died,
and my friend isn't that familiar with getting around the system via
a newshell or CLI.  He also has some of his own stuff, such as some
background tasks and something called MyMenu which replaces the Workbench
menu with his own shortcuts to run programs and utilities.

Anyway, we've tried to adjust the workbench screen location and save it,
but when the machine is rebooted, the adjustment is not made.  Does
preferences save the changes in a particular place?  Surely it does,
'cause the system has to find it on bootup, but I couldn't seem to
locate it anywhere.  Where is it saved?  What is the file called?  And
why would the selected save button in preferences NOT save it?

As a side question, I saw something called "IPrefs" (I think) somewhere
in his boot sequence.  Is this related to the above problem?

Any and all replies gratefully accepted, via posting or email

Thanks,
   Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: Re: World of CBM, Pasadena
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:05:32 GMT

In article <64367@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
>Seminars for World of Commodore, Pasadena Ca.

[personal favorites among an impressive list]

>Friday, Sept 11, 1992 10 am - 5 pm
> 1:45 PM  *AmigaVision 3.0
> 2:30 PM  *Keynote Address by Commodore
> 3:30 PM  *AmigaDos 2.1
> 3:45 PM  *Commodore New Product Overview
 
>Saturday, Sept 12, 1992 10 am - 5 pm
>12:15 PM  *Centaur Demonstrates OpalVision
>12:30 PM  *Sunrize Presents Digital Audio for Video
 
>Current Exhibitors for World of Commodore
>=========================================
 
[..]

Assuming that this is accurate, this looks like it will be a great show.
Too bad those of us that live in the Arctic have to wait for December
(WOC Toronto) :).

Mark

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From: mueller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Carl Douglas Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Shell Archive ???
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:45:21 GMT
Reply-To: mueller@math.wisc.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

I wasn't sure where to post this, but this seemed a good a place as any.
If I have a file that says "This is a shell archive ... type 'sh file' to
unpack it ..." is there any way I can do this on the AMIGA? --- These are
UNIX commands (right?).  I really don't want to unpack this here at school
and dowload files individually!

                              Thanks for ANY help.

                              Carl Mueller (mueller@math.wisc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: Unix lha
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:06:20 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

bell@comute.enet.dec.com (Shane L. Bell) writes:

>    I'm sure there was talk about there being a lha program available for UNIX,
>but I don't remember where it was located.  I would greatly appreciate any help
>in getting it.  Thanks!!!

grind.isca.uiowa.edu
Look in the unix/arc-progs directory.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.comm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: Citadel authors
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:07:46 GMT

In <crystal.714018267@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>In <1992Aug16.211310.1388@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umward10@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward) writes:

>          FOR THE RECORD:

>The "Authors" of Citadel, as listed in the FISH description of the program
>are NOT the authors of the Citadel program!
>    ^^^

>They are the authors of the AMIGA VERSION, not of Citadel itself.  Citadel
>was the brain-child of Jeffrey S. Prothero some 10 years ago in CP/M.  He
>is here at the UW on glia.biostr.  The program was the first of its kind
>in a world of linear BBS's.

>Please, Mr. Fish, correct your records so that they do not imply erroneous
>authorship.  Citadel is one H*ll of a program, and credit for it's original
>and innovative design should not be taken away from the original author.

>And, yes, I have first hand knowledge of this because I worked on the
>original program with Jeff when it was in beta test at ICS on Bainbridge
>Island, Wa. back in 1981/2.

 I've never known the real name of the person who originally wrote Citadel
for CP/M.  I only recall that his psuedoname started with a 't', and
that he was in Washington.  So this is above info is quite likely
correct.

 However, as I understand the story.  The original author gave up
on Citadel completely early on.  Development was taken over by
Hue, Jr.(psuedoname) in Minneapolis.  Citadel from there was ported
over to MS-DOS, under the name Citadel-86.  The Amiga version of
Citadel written by Jay was a port of the Citadel-86 code.
 
 I'm by no means an expert on this.  I'm from the Minneapolis
area and have been using the Citadel's in that region since
about 1984, and followed Citadel from it's versions on CP/M,
MS-DOS, C-128, Amiga, Atari ST, and even Macintosh.

 If anybody is truely interested in more of the history of Citadel
I know that Hue Jr.'s BBS used to have a history file on there,
and I'd be willing to obtain this and forward this info.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.tech
From: Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert)
Subject: External drive problems
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Private Mail/Usenet node
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:44:41 +0000

I've recently upgraded my Amiga A500 to wb 2.04, and changed my hard drive
for a GVP series II. After the change, my external 3.5" drive (Roctec) will
not format disks, failing on track 78. Disks already formatted seem to be ok.

Does anyone have any ideas what *could* be the problem?

Steve.
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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A3000 and KickStart 1.3
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:33:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug14.223304.770
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Get hold of setcpu 1.6 - It'll kick just about anything, but be warned,
 > it does not understand A3000 fast memory - so it puts the kickrom and
 > MMU tables in chip.  It works, but it uses ~600-~700K of your chip ram.
 > This is not good unless you have 2M chip to start with.

This is not good, even if you DO have 2 megs of chip ram to start with.  It
isn't THAT hard to use up enough chip ram to drop the amount of free chip
ram below a meg... sometimes quite a bit below a meg.  If a low cost work
around is needed, though, this might be just the thing as long as heavy
duty graphics work isn't contemplated... AdPro and 24-bit pix comes to
mind.


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From: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: fred fish via ftp sit
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:15:09 EST
Reply-To: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

I am trying to find an anonymous FTP site that has the fred fish library
prior to disk 500 in "complete disk" archived form.  Basically, I would
like to download a single 500K .LHA or .DMS file instead of 6-10 smaller
archived files for each disk.  Thanks in advance!

 --Jeff

jeff.ruck@channel1.com
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From: armstrongmw@cgc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WP51 Files to Amiga
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:05:22 GMT
Organization: Cooley Godward Castro Huddleson & Tatum, San Francisco, Ca

In article <harris.34@ROTC.orst.edu>, harris@ROTC.orst.edu (Captain Harris) writes:
> To transfer IBM WP51 files to the Amiga, save them as 4.2 Files (using the 
> export option in IBM WP5.1), then import them as IBM 4.2 files (using the 
> menu option in Amiga Wordperfect).
> 
> The same can be done in reverse to transfer Amiga Wordperfect files to IBM 
> WP 5.1, except that IBM WP5.1 automatically recognizes IBM WP4.2 files, and 
> converts them automatically.
> 
> ______
> Jeffrey Harris
> 


This is true, however some formatting is lost in the translation.  If you are
only doing this once in a while, then this procedure is fine.  If you are doing
it frequently, it becomes burdonsome.  I was doing it every day, and finally
purchased an A2286 Bridge Board so that I could run WP51.  I write, and could
not keep reformatting 200+ pages. (I only tried this a couple of times before I
gave up).  

Good Luck.

Mike Armstrong
armstrongmw@cgc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: harris@ROTC.orst.edu (Captain Harris)
Subject: WP51 Files to Amiga
Organization: Oregon State University - Univ. Computing Services
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:01:55 GMT

To transfer IBM WP51 files to the Amiga, save them as 4.2 Files (using the 
export option in IBM WP5.1), then import them as IBM 4.2 files (using the 
menu option in Amiga Wordperfect).

The same can be done in reverse to transfer Amiga Wordperfect files to IBM 
WP 5.1, except that IBM WP5.1 automatically recognizes IBM WP4.2 files, and 
converts them automatically.

______
Jeffrey Harris

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Engineer?  DEAD!  Behind every legendary captain, there is an even more 
legendary Chief Engineer to pull his cookies out of the fire.
From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: amiga perl anywhere?
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:52:15 GMT
	<1992Aug18.164437.18970@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
	<1992Aug19.124255.17535@rtsg.mot.com>
Reply-To: Kent.Dalton@FtCollinsCO.NCR.com
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: earl@rtsg.mot.com's message of 19 Aug 92 12:42:55 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Aug 92 12:42:55 GMT, earl@rtsg.mot.com (Brent R. Earl) said:

Brent> I am looking for perl for amiga.  I have seen the aperl30.zoo from
Brent> wuarchive, but that one seems to be corrupted when I receive it.

I was able to find a non-corrupt version on the net, can't remember 
where. I'll lha my copy and put it on wuarchive, if you'd like.

Brent> Are there any later versions available?  And where?  (preferably
Brent> with a full path name, we are protected from ftp by our site).

I'm currently working on porting perl 4.0.1.7 patchlevel 33 (the most
recent full distribution available). The base functionality is there and
I've got it to where it passes about 70-80% of the test suite. But it
still needs work...

It will require 2.04 and most likely a hard disk to use effectively
(because you'll want to install a set of unix work alike tools in
addition to the 300K+ executable).
 
I'm guessing 1 to 2 weeks before it's stable enough for GNR (General Net
Release :^). I suppose I could do a SNBR (Special Netter Beta Release)
in your case (if you run GCC 2.2.2 on your machine you can help debug!
;^) (GCC'ing perl requires *lots* of RAM, BTW. My 6Mb machine runs
completely out of RAM if I try to compile it with the -O2 and 030/882
switches.)  Hopefully, another 4Mb which I'll be getting RSN will be
enough :^)

I when it gets to the GNR level I'm going to contact Larry Wall to see
if we can get the Amiga stuff into the general perl distribution. It
probably won't be hard since he's generally pretty cool about this kind
of stuff (plus I've heard he owns an Amiga too :^).


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From: al158305@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AREXX legal question
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:54:37 GMT

jpr@sun4.lri.fr (Jean-Pierre Riviere) writes:
>|> exist. The comment is how it tells the difference between a rexx macro and
>|> other text files (my theory, but probably not far off the mark).

   You're right about that. I remember when I wrote REXX (not ARexx)
programs on an IBM 4381 (eek!) not too long ago. The comment at the 
start of the file was to inform the interpreter that it was a REXX
macro and not an EXEC or EXEC2 program. Neat, huh? but not neat 
enough to make me like the damn machine. Good thing they're taking
it down. :)

>  Jean-Pierre RIVIERE        |     ///
>  LRI - Universite Paris Sud | \\\///
>  e-mail : jpr@lri.lri.fr    |  \///

-Gus
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Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 13:15:33 TUR
From: <E63256@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A mathematical tool: emath-3d.readme

   This is a shareware program for displaying polar and rectangular
   3d functions on the Amiga. It works fine on  512 KB and WB 1.2
   1.3 and 2.0 (Higher versions couldn't be tested but it should
   have no problems on other versions).

   Erhan OZTOP
   e-mail: E63256@TRMETU.BITNET

     mail: ULTRA A.S.
           Erhan OZTOP
           P.K. 567 ANTALYA - TURKEY
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:12769 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:14227 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:21700
From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  LOOK, CBM IS WORKING HARD...
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:26:28 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <dej.01db@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca> dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:
>In article <34172@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>talks about anything possibly covered by the NDA.  Keep in mind that, to the
>>outsider, bogus posts done well are just as believeable as posts with actual
>>content, at least until those believed to be in the know deny or confirm such
>>rumors.
>
>Provided, of course, that the quality of the grammar and spelling is
>befitting a press release from CBM.  

	Also, keep in mind that if someone were to post stolen documents,
there's nothing to stop them from "adding features", inserting paragraphs,
inserting (or removing) graphics modes, etc.  You can't tell, we would be
unable to say anything (since saying anything would confirm or deny things
we shouldn't), etc.

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