HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: C3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:53:30 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

neal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry Neal) writes:
>It looks good in Illinois, but not really that much different than C4, both
>are GREAT.

	I've noted that a few of the newly used transponders on C4 are sparkly,
while others are strong (like AMC and Prevue Guide and Discovery).  Perhaps
they still need to tune those some.  TI filters and bandwidth changes don't
help much, and I don't normally have TI (only seen it once).  It is pretty
close to the horizon, and is in the trees (in the summer G1 gets sparkly,
and F1 goes away totally - but in the winter G1 is fine, and F1 is usable but
very sparkly).

	I'm in the Philadelphia area.

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From: mganz@pimacc.pima.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Laser C-Band LNB and T2/14
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:25:17 GMT

Do any of you have an opinion about the Laser, C-band LNB, 35 degree. I had
some storm damage and had my old 50 degree LNB replaced. I have noticed some
deterioration in certain transponders on T2, particularly HBO on T2/14. T2/9
and T2/5 are fine. I have also noticed more sparkles on other satellites but
again, only on certain transponders. The Ku LNB was also replaced with an
ECHOSTAR .7 and the reception is great so I am positive the dish is fine.

Changing the focal distance of the feedhorn has done nothing to improve the
picture. The T2/14 feed is full of sparkles, is unsteady and noisy. That was
not a problem before. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:27:09 GMT
From:         monty@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Re: WANTED: Eurosat (TAD) address

Reference:  Your note of Mon, 7 Dec 1992 10:44:51 GMT

In a previous message, you wrote:
>
>Would anybody in England do me a favour and call, get the address
>and post it here....THANKS!!
>

Ok, the address is :- 7 Ox Gate Center
                      Ox gate Lane
                      Edgeware Road
                      London, NW2 7JA

I did find out that there is a company called Eurosat USA Inc in Michigan
with a phone no of (517) 629 4331 and fax of (517) 629 5059.

Hope this helps,
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: T301 problems
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:50:34 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Dec11.160027.9574@pt.com> jvz@pt.com (John Zambito) writes:
<I watched that Deep Space 9 show last night (Thanks Vidiot)
<and there wasn't a sparkle present. With a 10' dish and
<a 40 deg LNB the picture here in upstate NY is perfect.

No problem.

The local station's airing of ST:TNG, the one that was recorded last weekend
was sparkle free.  The previous two ST:TNG recordings had the start of problems.
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:04:09 MEZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: satellite list SBC.TXT
              92 8:06 am

Vidiot writes:
> <> >>> <begin 644 sbc.exe
>
> I was sent a corrected version by Wolfgang.  But, when I run it, it is in
> German (don't get me wrong, it makes sense considering that it came from
> Germany).  Since I can't read German, I had no idea what it wanted, which
> appears to be a data file, which I didn't have.  Because of that, I have
> removed the program from my system.
>
> In any event a corrected uuencoded version is available.

Although I haven't made my mind up (many netters write to me personally
with suggestions) as to how to post the list in the future, I do not
wish to scare those away, who now think the list is worthless because
it is in the german language.

There is not much that is of a specific language in a list of satellites
with transponders, frequencies, positions and program names. It should
be easy for anyone to read it, whatever his main language may be.

I would not bother the net with this list, if it were not the most
accurate one, updated almost daily by a 75-member-satellite-watcher
club, of all satellites and transponders, Ku and C band, for Europe.

Watch out for more news on this item...

Wolfgang


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From: satnews@cix.compulink.co.uk (Darren Ingram)
Subject: Business television                     
Reply-To: satnews@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:14:00 +0000

Greetings. If you are aware of any business television networks or activities 
in Europe, please mail me for a report I am writing. I am especially 
interested in trial networks. 
 
Darren 
dingram@dims.demon.co.uk 
 
(Please don't comment to this newsgroup, as I cannot always get to read it) 
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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Superstar Connection
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:44:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Anyone have a subscription with SC?  I just signed up for their
Holiday Superview package as it beat the HBO SuperPak+ by $55.
Is there anything I should be forewarned about in dealing with SC?


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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:30:29 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: HBO Schedule source

>Some time within the last few months someone posted the address of a company
>(in Illinois I think) which published a monthly guide for HBO and/or
>Cinemax. As I understood it, the guide covered all of the HBO services
>accessible on satellite including those which reside on T2 (HBO2).

>Will someone please e-mail me the name and address of this outfit? (This time I
>promise I won't lose it)

>Thanks


Our local cable company no longer makes the free "cable guide" available.
SInce I don't subscribe to any of the pay services on the birds, (I get them
free on Cable, as I have a courtesy account) I miss this guide.  TV guide is
unusable here, since the listings are in CENTRAL time, and we are in EASTERN
time, so the TV guide you buy at the grocery store has the listings ONE HOUR
off, and I just can't stand that.

I bought ORBIT, and found that pretty hard to use also.

I would love to have the HBO, CINNEMAX, SHOWTIME, TMC and ENCORE schedules.

Or a source of "Cable guide"  Yes I will pay if someone can tell me where to
send the money...

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From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: Re: C3 switched on schedule
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:50:27 GMT
Reply-To: oester@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn
Keywords: C3 satelllite reception report

In article <BzCz3D.MwD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, neal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry Neal) writes:
|> The C3/F1R(F3R) switch appears to have happened on schedule.  Some of the
|> channels are boomin' in here in the midwest, some still are weak and
|> sparkley

I saw the same thing - I wonder if some are still running on F1R?

Bob
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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: RE: VCII VIDEO SCRAMBLING
Date: 11 Dec 92 02:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

it would be legal for you to listen to the audio, but the vcii or plus
do not give you video unless they have been tampered with.

s3-15, 6.800 for audio
weather channel, I think is at 7.8 or 5.7?
From: mikel@vcd.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine Electronic Press Kit
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:04:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.Bz3zMt.LC8
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
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Gary Bourgois,Hamshack (flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US) wrote:
: Tonight's satellite feed of DS9 press kit on T310 has been cancelled.  The
: refeed is scheduled for:  12/10/92 at 8:15 - 9:15 on TELSTAR 301 (T1) channel
: 5V (9) the regular Paramount feed channel.
: 

Can you please explain to me what 5V means and how that releates to
Tr. 9?  I had obviously confused 5V to mean Tr. 5 vertical polarity.

My wife called and said there was some Disney parade going on and
didn't look right.  I had her switch over to Tr 9 since that is where
other Paramount stuff is.  That's where she saw the cancellation
message.  It again said the next night on 5V.

Mike Loveridge
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:36:41 MEZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      CNN Germany

It's not just a rumor anymore: CNN comes to Germany. They join the
lately founded channel 'n-tv' [D and will put it on Astra 1B "within the
next few days". Maybe on transponder 32, where we do see color bars
for several months already? Maybe Bernard Shaw has to learn German now?

Wolfgang

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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: SPICE
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

Can you believe this stuff that TVN is doing.  we all know they are
losing money, and well so is CVS and Spice, well, CVS around 2-3 months
ago, signed on TVN as theatre 9, t3-09, well, take a look at t3-20, you
got it, theatre 10, is now SPICE.  Oh my god!
From: sbirdwell@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: re:tim(b)e base correction
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:53:59 GMT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

A time base corrector, TBC, is a line and frame synchonizer for video tape
playback. The correction for video tape playback jitter and instabilities 
is done by synchronizing the input (tape playback) to an output reference.
The TBC output video timing (RS 170A and SCH) is controlled by the internal 
clocking (reference to a 3.579545 MHz crystal, NTSC), and an external genlock 
video signal (video plant reference). The TBC input video undergoes an analog to
digital conversion (8 or 10 bit), time shifted to be placed in the correct
line and color frame interval, then D to A (with correct video timing) to 
the output. Throughput delay can be from a few lines or one video frame.
An older model/type TBC may also have horizintal and vertical sync
outputs. For older U-matic tape decks (the reason TBC were invented was to 
play U-matic to broadcast air), the TBC vertical drive was used to 
servo the playback deck. The horizontal sync may be used as a reference
for the start of video line, approx 9.4 microseconds after the leading
edge of horizontal sync.

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From: Owen Rubin <rubin@apple.com>
Subject: SCPC info (I know, again!)
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:21:24 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer

I know, this has been posted before. But it has been almost 6 months
since I have looked at news and I need some info. To save space, you can
email responses to me at 'rubin@apple.com'.

First, what satellites and Xpndrs have SCPC info. I don't need an entire
channel list, just where  WHICH sats and xpndrs are active with this
stuff.

If I take unclamped video into my radio receiver, can I receive the
audio? The reason for this is my radio only goes up to 1.3 Gig so I miss
some stuff if I use the rf. Where would I find the signals (what freq)?
Not possible? I'm dreaming?

Since my receiver has a 70 Mhz loop (for filters), I assume I could put
my radio receiver in that loop and the actual rf signal is "downshifted"?
Would I then find SCPC signals starting at 70 Mhz? What range since its
shifted? If 950 Mhz to 1450 Mhz originally, is it then 70 Mhz to 120 Mhz?
Does the spacing change?

Any info and help would be great. I am still playing and am not ready to
spend $500 for a SCPC receiver. 

Thanks
-Owen Rubin-
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From: hawk@hawk.sps.mot.com (George Hawkins)
Subject: SUR info needed
Organization: Motorola Inc. MMTG Oakhill Austin Texas
Distribution: na sa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:00:46 GMT

Does anyone out there know the address
for SUR [S2-22]? I have a friend from
PERU and he would like any info if
possible. Thanks for the help!

regards,
George Hawkins
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From: brett@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Brett Morrow)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Where FAQ?
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:24:40 GMT
Organization: Gallifrey - Home of the Timelords
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu


I have seen reference to a FAQ for this list. Can anyone tell me where I might
be able to obtain one?


  -Brett

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From: wtf@controls.ccd.harris.com (Bill Fredenburg)
Subject: HBO Schedule source
Originator: wtf@rs2
Organization: Harris Controls
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:25:28 GMT


Some time within the last few months someone posted the address of a company
(in Illinois I think) which published a monthly guide for HBO and/or
Cinemax. As I understood it, the guide covered all of the HBO services
accessible on satellite including those which reside on T2 (HBO2).

Will someone please e-mail me the name and address of this outfit? (This time I
promise I won't lose it)

Thanks
From: brion@NCPS.VAK12ED.EDU (Brenda Rion)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Superstar Connection
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:30:27 GMT
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              Dec 18, 92 8:44 pm

James,

     I have used services from SuperStar Connection for over
four years with zero problems.  They seem to be a competent
outfit.
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From: Power@cup.portal.com (Ron A Uitz)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: SPICE
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:54:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>Can you believe this stuff that TVN is doing.  we all know they are
>losing money, and well so is CVS and Spice, well, CVS around 2-3 months
>ago, signed on TVN as theatre 9, t3-09, well, take a look at t3-20, you
>got it, theatre 10, is now SPICE.  Oh my god!

Seems to make sense, since everything on F4 needs to find a new home.  I
wonder which TVN "theater" Action pay-per-view will end up in.

BTW, I'd bet TVN would make more money if they lowered the price of a 
movie.  Maybe the studios are the culprit; I don't know how much 
TVN has to pay them per movie ordered. . .
From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: C3/C4 Bleedover
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 11:15:43 EST
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Reply-To: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Distribution: world
Organization: The All Ter Nah Tive Un Der Groend

I recently re-installed my 10' dish (finished yesterday to be exact) after
moving, and am experiencing a slight problem.

On several of G1's transponders I am getting bleedover from C3 or C4 (usually
the latter).  Now I repeaked everything, tried tuning the video off centre
and I still get the bleedover sparklies.

I checked with other people's 10' systems (exact same dish), and they aren't
experiencing any of this.  Could a tree pose this problem?

As, two backyards down-range from my dish is a large pine tree which sits dead
centre where G1 is located at.  My theory is that since some of G1's signal
is being blocked out, that the C3/C4 signals are slightly overpowering G1.

Could this problem be remedied by going to a lower degree LNB (currently a 
45 degree NORSAT), such as a Cal Amp 25 degree unit?

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From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Subject: Re: VC 2 Questions/proposition
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:02:39 GMT


In article <1gqqh8INNeai@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, frederik@ucs.orst.edu (Karl Frederick-N7TWP) writes...
>>PROPOSITION:
>>
>>Since I am into the 3rd Month of trying to get GI/Programmers/CUC to
>>upgrade me to an RS (without success), I would like to ask people to
>>post any PREVIEWS/FREEVIEWS as soon as they are announced.  This  
>>will give me a chance to use this #(*@&#$&* module !!!
>>
>	The Discovery Channel on G5 has been operating fixed key for months.
>Note, that you probably have to suscribe to one service to have your 
>module put on the active list.  Also check out Action Pay Per view on 
>transponder 13L(V) (channel 2) of Spacenet III which goes fixed key 
>between movies.

If you have to have an active subscription to something to see Discovery
(assuming you don't already subscribe to Discovery) then it is NOT in fixed
key. Fixed key services will come in on any VCII (or VCII+ if it only has a
VCII+ datastream) without having been authorised.

More common is for a service to enter preview mode. There is a specific
service id for preview mode, that is enabled on all boxes that are authorised
for any service. 

gary
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:08:00 GMT
From:         Michael Nieckoski <0005392263@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      RE: SUR info needed

SUR can be reached at:

601 Brickell Key Drive
Suite 100
Miami FL 33131
800-842-8908

I spoke with them a couple of weeks ago.  They quoted me $131
for a year's subscription.  CHEAP!! I hope it stays there.
They sent a full schedule, but they don't always keep to it.

Hope this helps.

Mike

           Michael Nieckoski  Director, Audio/Visual Department
         WORLD LEARNING INC. - School for International Training
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From: harry@cs.tu-berlin.de (Harald Brinkmann)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: DMAC signal on Thor 0.8 deg West
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:39:03 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: troll.cs.tu-berlin.de

Can anyone with a proper DMAC receiver check whether the signal on DBS
channel 4 is soft-scrambled or not? *I* for one do not get it, but
with MY receiver, that doesn't mean a lot, anyway.

  Harald

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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:37:39 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Deep Space Nine Electronic Press Kit

>Gary Bourgois,Hamshack (flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US) wrote:
>: Tonight's satellite feed of DS9 press kit on T310 has been cancelled.  The
>: refeed is scheduled for:  12/10/92 at 8:15 - 9:15 on TELSTAR 301 (T1) channel
>: 5V (9) the regular Paramount feed channel.
>:

>Can you please explain to me what 5V means and how that releates to
>Tr. 9?  I had obviously confused 5V to mean Tr. 5 vertical polarity.

This is because the numbering scheme works like this.

TELSTAR DESIGNATION      YOUR RECEIVER SAYS

1V                       1 (Vertical)
1H                       2 (Horizontal)
2V                       3 (Vertical)
2H                       4 (Horizontal
3V                       5 (Vertical)
3H                       6 (Horizontal)
4V                       7 (Vertical)
4H                       8 (Horizontal)
5V                       9 (Vertical)
5H                      10 (Horizontal)

Etc to the end of the transponders, which is

12H                     24 (Horizontal)

Spacenet numbering scheme is even stranger than this.

There are birds where the DESIGNATED HIGHER numbers come in on LOWER channels
on a "standard" satellite receiver.

The 24 channel layout is a CONSUMER thing actually.

KU is even stranger.

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