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From: didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry)
Subject: Re: Mormony
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:02:19 GMT

verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:

>Dear John:

>------------------------

>The following is the summary of Orthodoxal beliefs towards
>the Satanic origins of Catholic and other Western Churches.

>--------------

>Why are people not told about the devil?  Why do we hear from the
>pulpit about how many of the devil?  But it is the
>devil that fears being fought off with faith,
>the word "devil" or "Satan" was even mentioned?

>In this day and age we hear that
>the devil is?  Why are people want to go and suffer the
>terrible pains him.  As Satan's pope has said, one 
>can also lie through silence seems deceitful person--the devil,
>the world and the days when I dabbled in sin, 
>deceived by the devil, the realm is that of 
>deceitful to me.  More than that, I think
>the author of the devil, the world with devils, 
>was beaten by St Athanasius. The Desert Fathers 
>went into the desert precisely and literally 
>battle the desert precisely and literally in his bedroom.

>        Indeed, let us rather speak the truth 
>about the kingdom of the soul are traditionally listed as the devil's.

>        So, why the silence.

>       The enemies of the devil?  But it is 
>easier for the young people to dabble in various sins?  It would
>surely many if they were warned would repent.
>Do the young people to avoid venial sin?  I recall to mind the flesh with love.

>        If the demons.

>        This silence is identical with its object.  The devil's.

>        What can we do?  We can call a Sunday Mass over the beast.  
>I am at fault by not always pointing him out.

>---     ---     ---     ---

>--------------------------------------------

>Misha.

  On our campus, there is a preacher who is  commonly called Mad Max. From
  periodic observations I have noticed that his main goal in life is to say
  something similar to the above. (At least that is what he does 
  during the warm days of the year, but I hear that when it gets colder he 
  continuous his purposefulness somewhere in Florida.)

  My favorite scene envolving Mad Max, I observed while rushing through our
  Quad one day. There was a small crowd of two guys with mohawks (one with red
  mohawk and one with blue) listening (patiently) to the preachings of Mad Max.
  When I walked by, I just heard him saying,"What would happen if your mother
  had an abortion?"

  What I liked about it was that that little scene could be interpreted anyone
  way one wanted. Personally, I imagined what would happen if Max's mother...

  ---Garik.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Christian.Kuehnke@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Christian Kuehnke)
Subject: Dictionary sought
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:17:24 GMT

Hi there!

There already exist electronic dictionaries for various languages,
such as German-English, English-German, and so on. Anybody knows
whether there are any dictionaries (even simple files would be
welcome) with Russian-German, Russian-English, Luthanian-German or
Luthanian-English translations?

Thanks in advance,
Christian

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From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Russian restaurant question
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:42:48 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <92324.121729ESHEKHT@auvm.american.edu> ESHEKHT@auvm.american.edu
(Elaina Shekhter) writes:

>I'm trying to find the names and addresses of the two really famous Russian
>restaurants in NYC.  I wanted to go to the Russian Tea Room, but my parents
>insisted that if I want a taste of the real thing, I should visit one of the
>places run by emigres.

Get Novoye Russkoye Slovo and check the ads.

As they say in Smash TV:

Good Luck...you'll need it :-)

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// -Phantasy Star III                    //// shimkevich@A1.tch.harvard.edu // 
From: rog@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roger Haaheim)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:18:36 GMT
Subject: Video Tape recording format?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet

What is the video tape recording format in Russia?
Are "standard" T-120 tapes used?  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: shteinbo@acs.ucalgary.ca (Boris Shteinbock)
Subject: Re: FM Sh 239, Graduates?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:37:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]



You guys probably don't now that but
the majority of great #239 and #45 teachers
including
ruzhuk
Volovik
bekker
etc.


are now teaching in so called FTSH (phys.tech shkola)
that was creatd in 1988 by phys-tech.'s director alpherov

As far as I know it's currently the BEST school in Spb.


Boris
--
---------------------------------------------------
	Sun is the same in a relative way
	but you are older, shorter of breath
	one day closer to death
				PINK FLOYD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Svetoi Nikolai... Yuck!
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:57:51 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Nov18.153723.32778@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
> [...some ideas deleted as irrelevant...]
> 
> 
> Hmm... I never felt like Russian sainthood was too good for Nicholas II,
> but now I begin to think that, in fact, it may be too _bad_ for him...
> 

The history of Russian sainthood were described marvelously; however, You 
forgot that most of Russian saint got this title during the reign of Ivan IV,
the Dread (or, as he is usually called, the Terrible).  The guy didn't look
like a holy person himself, and his idea of a great number of saints was
derived from his will to reach the level of Catholic Church, at least by
this number.  Therefore, a lot of people got the status of saint without any
more or less valid reason for it.

The later history of sainthood shows that the Russian Orthodox Church became
more selective, and the later saints were a little bit better than those 
first ones (like Dmitrii Donskoi, for example, who didn't want to pay taxes
to tartars, kicked their asses in Kulikovo in 1380, and was bitten two years
later by the very same tartars during their 2-nd punishment expedition against
Moscow).

> 
> -- 
> Thus spake Kalmoth the Vile, Slayer of the Seven Pigs of the North.

Respectfully,
Michael Martynov.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: STCL <STCL@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU>
Subject: For Serega & Co.
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:12:57 GMT

 Serega.                       ...Ti kto ?



                               STCL@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU
From: dima@maths.uwa.oz.au (Dima Pasechnik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Donahue/Pozdner show...
Date: 18 Nov 1992 09:48:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: madvax.maths.uwa.oz.au

didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:

>Few days ago, I was watching Donahue/Pozdner show. Cannot say that I was
>too impressed, but then it is personal opinion. One things that struck
>me puzzling was Pozdner insistent calling for help to Russia. At every 
>opportunity he was stating that it is in American best interest to help
>Russia, that it is very important to help Russia, etc.

>"Why?" is a very natural question. Should America help Russia because if
>it doesn't, CIS will send its nuclear business card? Or should America
>help because it is the biggest and nicest country in the whole world?
>Or should America just use Russia as a new market?
Certainly the reason is not that "Russia is the motherland of elephants,
etc." I think Garik is lucky having his relatives far away from Russia, which
certainly makes him not so concerned about what's happening there.
To the contrary, I'm concerned that my father, D.Sci., Prof., makes the
biggest part of his and his family living renting my flat in Moscow to
foreiners. I'm concerned that everything there is being done through the
well-known in this newsgroup hole.
I'm personally afraid, due to our pity, that possibility of 2nd civil
war in Russia is to be concerned, as the very existence of the life on
Earth depends on it. As well, the possibility of selling nukes to the
warmest friends of US, say, to Iraq, may be of some concern for US.
(btw, I on the net saw an article explaining attemts of CIA to buy 
certain advanced weapons in CIS, 
and those attemts were explained as hopeful (not
yet SS-18 has been bought, but ...))
Generally, US should be concerned about Russia, since the unstability
there is quite painful for it.

>Maybe I can come up with more questions and answers on my own, but what still
>puzzles me is why Mr. Pozdner was saw insistent? Is he getting paid for it, or
>is he a patriot of his country? (Who is that masked man?)
Pozner is certainly a piece of shit (as well as most of the old guard of
international soviet journalism), but he is doing his job, for which he
is paid, pretty well. By the above explained reasons, he is concerned
about what is happening in Russia, i.e. is a patriot, in some sense.

>---Garik.

Dima.
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Green Snake (was Re: Mormons in Russia)
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:45:31 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Nov19.014508.15760@u.washington.edu>, nobby@milton.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov) writes:
> 
>  [...]       Green God comprises Green Snake,
> Green Dragon and even Green Lizard if for some obscure reason
> you worship the latter too. 
>

What about Green Michael (Mikhail Zeleny)?  Do you worship him too?

Michael Martynov.
From: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Leave Vysotsky alone!
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:10:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov19.051037.17600
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <1992Nov19.012523.11890@erg.sri.com> vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad) writes:

>What do you mean "a good guy". Vysotsky is a hated figure for all Pamyat
>members and other "patriots" both for his "non_Aryan" blood, and for the
>fact that he despised all these "patriots" and communists, and for the fact
>that this "democrat and half-Jew" became the most beloved poet among
>average Russians. 

	Don't make me laugh. Obviously you never read anything
	by those guys and never met them in person. The
	Russian fascistic (well, patriotic) press 
	*admires* Vysotsky. Ditto for the ordinary
	Pamyat' supporters. They never believe he is
	half-Jew, though :)

>Recall that two leaders of the fascist movement in Russia, Zhirinovsky and
>Nevzorov, are half-Jewish themselves.

	They don't believe those are half-Jewish either.

	BTW, why the ethnicity is so important
	for everybody on scs? It is disregarded even 
	by those Pamyat' dudes! I have to conclude
	that the scs public is more fascistic
	than Pamyat' (conclusion all Vadims surely
	agree :)

	Misha.

	P. S. Naturally, Vysotsky (along with Esenin,
	Pushkin, Lermontov, Mayakovsky etc.) was murdered
	by some mysterious power which is deeply connected
	with free-masonery and Zionist movement. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: ftsam@acad3.alaska.edu (Sergei Maurits)
Subject: Re: FM Sh 239, Graduates?
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:57:20 GMT

In article <By50Mu.Cuq.1@cs.cmu.edu>, smir+@CS.CMU.EDU (Yury Smirnov) writes:

> In article <By1F5G.F0v@cs.columbia.edu>, igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich) writes:
> |> 
> |> Let's see how many of us are here. I know of three except me (I mean, on this
> |> net). 
> |> 
> |> --Igor P.
> |>  
> 
>     My office mate Eugene Fink (eugene@cs.cmu.edu)is exactly a graduate of 
>     239 F M Sh. A month ago we found 30 F M Sh graduate in CMU, not in CS, 
>     but in ECE and, thus, completed the "Saint Trio" - 30, 45 & 239  -:)
> 
>     St.Yury  from  St.Petersburg

Hi there, guys!

It used to be not a Trio, but  ... oops, I don't know exactly, at least five 
or six. Anyway, I am graduate of #38, Class of 1974. It was two years before
the school was "united" with #30 and district high school authorities reported
about the successful elimination of the half of Phys.-Math. classes (about 30
students each) at Vasilievskij Ostrov and proportional increasing of "PTU". 
The list of their victories: from about 20 classes in just one of the city
districts (end of nineteen-sixties) to six (1976) and later to 2 (I guess, 
mid-eighties).

What is going on now in #30?  I know #45 & #239 are doing pretty well, the
latter even change the name and became a PhM Liceum.
 
--Serega, AK
From: smir+@CS.CMU.EDU (Yury Smirnov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: FM Sh 239, Graduates?
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:49:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.By50Mu.Cuq.1
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

In article <By1F5G.F0v@cs.columbia.edu>, igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich) writes:
|> 
|> Let's see how many of us are here. I know of three except me (I mean, on this
|> net). 
|> 
|> --Igor P.
|> 
|> 
|> 

    My office mate Eugene Fink (eugene@cs.cmu.edu)is exactly a graduate of 
    239 F M Sh. A month ago we found 30 F M Sh graduate in CMU, not in CS, 
    but in ECE and, thus, completed the "Saint Trio" - 30, 45 & 239  -:)

    St.Yury  from  St.Petersburg
From: covdy@cronos.metaphor.com (Ivan Covdy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Leave Vysotsky alone!
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:39:18 GMT
Organization: Metaphor Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA  USA


I think the main question is not whether Vysotsky is better than
Rozenbaum or vice versa. The main questions should be

 - for one part or this group:

1. Was V.Vysotsky an antisemit or not?
2. Had he ever sung/written/spoken/thought anything antisemitic or not?
3. Is it true that his grandfather/brother-in-law/cousin/ant-in-law/etc.
   said some day somewhere somehow antisemitic?
4. If he was not antisemitic, then how was he prosecuted because
   of having some Jewish blood in his veins?
5. etc.

 - for another part of this group:

1. Try to prove, that, because V.Vysotsky was a good guy, he couldn't have
   any relation to those fucking Jews;
2. Emphasize, that V.Vysotsky didn't emigrate like other "stinking rats,
   who are not even worth persucuting them" (or how was it said in one of
   V.A.'s "perls").
3. If 1. doesn't work, that is, if Vysotsky was a [half-]Jew, then
   a) he stil was a great patriot of Russia and never 
      "whined about being prosecuted" in Russia;
   b) many-many Russian people admired and liked him; this proves that
      the great Russian people has nothing to do with antisemitism;
4. etc.



-- 
  Ivan Covdy, covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com, METAPHOR Inc.,  CA,  USA
 *** People are looking for a Mind somewhere in the Universe,      ***
 *** because on the Earth they've been finding only the Stupidity. ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy)
Subject: Re: How many Soviet emigres does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:38:52 GMT
Organization: Be. I am.
Keywords: light bulbs, Soviet emigres

In article <qJ9cuB1w165w@bwalk.dm.com> dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dimitri Vulis) writes:
	[...]

So we have two comets who always come back - Patricia and Vulis.
Like flies to sugar.
Keep rotating!

>``Don't bother, I'll reach it anyway.''
Yes, that's it!


	-igor


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry)
Subject: Re: Burshteyn, speak English!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:34:46 GMT
Keywords: What are ___ talking about?

mam18@pheasant.cs.uofs.edu (Michael A Martinov) writes:

>It seems for me, that you said even more than you needed... specially in the
          ^^^
>subject line (What are talking about?).  Next time don't forget to put
>something like "we", "you", or "they" after "are": it will look much-much
>better.

>I'm kinda ashamed that some people in Pennsylvania (where I happen to live and
>study) don't speak English well enough and, yet, try to show their high
>intellectual level.

>> No further comments.
From: medev@my12.sm.luth.se (Alexander Medvedev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Russian .SNF fonts ( correction)
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:13:19 GMT


					Alexander
					medev@sm.luth.se
					amedvedev@finabo.abo.fi
From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: How to map russian character set to a transliterated one ?
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:38:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.102525
Reply-To: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Nov17.063844.18307@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu> dlv@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu writes:

>kak nyn~e sbiraetsq MAMZER oleg
		     ~~~~~~~
>otmstitx nerazumnym HAZERIM
Hm, was his mother Jewish?
Maybe also from Hazars?

And while we are on this topic,
I strongly object to the line
"otmstit' nerazumnim hazaram",
because they already were Jewish (right,a?)

>
>Hmm.
>Dimitri Vulis

>Disclaimer: my Usenet postings don't necessarily represent anyone's views,
>especially my own and/or CUNY's.
Then why post them?

Cenya  Streltsov
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From: shm@syl.syl.nj.nec.com (Shailendra Majmundar)
Subject: Russians - Friendliest People!! (Re:Tips on touring Russia)
Reply-To: shm@syl.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:07:23 GMT

Many thanks to those who responded to my earlier mail requesting tips
on touring Russia. Many have even offered me an apartment in Moscow at
a very reasonable rate.

Could some one please also tell me how much it may cost to have an inter-
preter in Moscow?

I am convinced that the Russians are the friendliest people on the earth
who can even trust you to their homes!!

Sam (shm@syl.nj.nec.com) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)
Subject: Ya zhil na Kame
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 06:54:26 GMT


	Ya zhil na Kame. Obstanovka bila tiazhelaya,
pogoda bila otvratitelnaya, nastroeniye bilo gnusnoe, atmosphera bila
merzopakostnaya.

	No riba v Kame bila!

----------------------------

Tekst po pamiati, vozmozhni otklonenia. Pomnite, dorogiye bivshiye
sootechestvenniki, skazhite, ved` riba-to v Kame bila ....
Chto to vse taki bilo v etoy samoy Kame ... Chego v Potomake net.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Re: Donahue/Pozdner show...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:09:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <BxvC67.3FL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:
>Few days ago, I was watching Donahue/Pozdner show. Cannot say that I was
>too impressed, but then it is personal opinion. One things that struck
>me puzzling was Pozdner insistent calling for help to Russia. At every 
>opportunity he was stating that it is in American best interest to help
>Russia, that it is very important to help Russia, etc.
>
>"Why?" is a very natural question. Should America help Russia because if
>it doesn't, CIS will send its nuclear business card? Or should America
>help because it is the biggest and nicest country in the whole world?
>Or should America just use Russia as a new market?
>
>Maybe I can come up with more questions and answers on my own, but what still
>puzzles me is why Mr. Pozdner was saw insistent? Is he getting paid for it, or
>is he a patriot of his country? (Who is that masked man?)
>
>---Garik.

    Given the lattitude Mr.Pozner used to enjoy at the time few others
    in the Soviet Union did, he is a KGB man.  Think of him as a semi-official
    spokesman for the Russian goverment trying to extract $$$ from the West
    by the means of nuclear blackmail.

    Is the threat real?  Not really, for people who control the Russian
    nuclear stockpiles would not benefit from a confrontation with the US:
    for one thing, their private bank accounts in the West could be frozen...
    Besides, those people are too busy looting the country - hundreds of
    billions, if not trillions, of dollars worth of assets are up for grabs!



-- 
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Disclaimer: all opinions are mine.
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From: grekin@fisherman.hac.com (Igor Grekin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Macintosh WordProcessing
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:23:51 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
X-XXMessage-ID: <A72EC02FC6013C30@macone.edsg.hac.com>
X-XXDate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:28:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.123332.2897@rigel.econ.uga.edu> Jeffrey A.
Thompson, jeffrey@rigel.econ.uga.edu writes:
>I would like to do word processing of Cyrillic fonts with the Macintosh. 
>Can anyone recommend a good Mac wordprocessor that can process Cyrillic 
>fonts and:
>
>   - Import Graphics
>   - Has Seriph and SanSeriph Fonts
>   - System 7 Compatible
>
>Thanks,
>--jat

Jeff,

You can use any of wordprocessors available for Mac, including MS WORD,
Claris MacWRITE, etc.

Make sure you install Cyrillic fonts in your System file or using
Suitcase.

Igor Grekin
From: zeleny@scws7.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Zametki na polyakh
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:38:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov23.183815.17733
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <98921@netnews.upenn.edu> 
burshtey@polka.seas.upenn.edu (Alexander Burshteyn) writes:

>In answer to several recent postings by comrade Martynov, containing
>lots of platitudes, shallowness, and openly idiotic remarks, there is but
>one thing to say:
>
>Durak ty Martynov, i shutki tvoi duratskie.
>
>And if those weren't jokes, then you're an even harder case: mutloid.

Now that's constructive criticism!

>Alex Burshteyn
>
>P.S. Don't bother to answer, nobody's listening.

Why write then?

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
From: burshtey@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Alexander Burshteyn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Studying in Moscow & St.Petersburg
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:03:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <Ef19C9S00iV2Q8kFsF@andrew.cmu.edu> sl4n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Lew) 
>It won't be a
>bad idea for me to take up some Russian literature courses as well, such
>as those on Tolstoy, Yevtushenko, etc.

Well, I don't know about Tolstoy, but definitely take a course on Yevtushenko.
                                                                            
Good luck in your future studies,
                                                                             
Alex Burshteyn.