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From: gt3017a@prism.gatech.EDU (Guy Elden Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS and GS2000
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:56:29 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


   Has anybody got decent digitized sound out of this game with the GUS?  I
just tried, and it wasn't surprising that something went amiss.... it seems
like the only games I have trouble with are ones Microprose makes...

The problem this time is two things:  First, my co-pilot's speech is way too
slow, and second, the rotor blades and other sounds sound like crap. Now, the
rotor I can live with, but the speech, well, I'd rather have my adlib going
with this game.  

And for some reason, on any M-Prose game, any sound that sounds remotely
digitized incurrs a death hold on the game, preventing it from doing anything
until the sound is finished. Is there any way to fix this, or is M-Prose going
to have to see profits go down the tubes before something is done? 

I'm willing to say that within a year from now, many, many game companies will
have produced games using either Gravis native mode, or at the very least, a
SB that doesn't choke the card. And the companies that don't won't be around
long.... 


I'd also like to suggest to Gravis this:  perhaps make a new set of patches
that are just exact samples of FM sound from an adlib/sb card. That way, the
FM part of games would sound ok. (many sound effects in games I have use
instruments whose names sound nothing like what they produce, and it seems
that when Gravis tried their hand at making a patch set compat with adlib/sb
FM sounds, they made all the instrument names sound correct. Well, some of them
shouldn't, and I'd like to be able to switch between patch sets, if its 
possible, so I can get good sound out of the games I've got.


just my $.02....


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From: ebu@snakemail.hut.fi (Erik Bunn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Help with soundcards
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:45:18 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
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In-reply-to: dcole@ua.d.umn.edu's message of 5 Jan 1993 17:11:08 -0600

dcole@ua.d.umn.edu (david cole) writes:

>scham_ta@slab.unt.edu (Linda Schamber's TA) writes:


...
>There is very little difference between the LAPC and the MT32.  The LAPC is
>just an MT-32 on a card with some additional sounds and RAM.  
>Thus the only comparison between the two that is very important is that the
>LAPC is internal and the MT32 is external (along with the fact that the LAPC
>is current while the MT-32 is discontinued).  

My understanding is that the LAPC is outdated, too /well, at least
technology-wise). Roland's current card is the SCC-1. Also, the
price of $370 mentioned is way too high; I bought an SCC for about
that price last summer.

The Roland cards, in general, seem to be better suited for 
musicians or at least music hobbyists. 

>I have not heard the GUS, but I doubt that it sounds as good as the LAPC. 

There are some on this group who say the GUS sounds almost as good
as the SCC-1, which in turn is better than the LAPC/MT-32. 


Erik aka not_a_GUS_owner_but_perhaps_one_soon


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From: scoh@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: The Gus.. Power Monger
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:37:24 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <Jan04.005252.26810@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley)) writes:
> In article <1993Jan3.171740.9843@ac.dal.ca> scoh@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>I have a gravis Ultrasound.. And I am trying to play powermonger... Does
>>anyone know which switches to use to get it to work with sound and sound
>>effex? I would appreciate it!
> 
> Using version 1.20 of SBOS, I didn't have to use any switches at all, it
> worked fine.
> 
>>Also has anyone made an Ultimate List yet of games and options for
>>Sbos version 1.23?
>>If they could could ya post it up?
> 
> Please don't.  If we're gonna' make a list, let's make one (or rather add
> to the already existing one) for version 1.20 until there's another
> NON-BETA release of SBOS.  It's futile to make a list for software that'll
> be outdated in a month or two.
> 
Yes Please Do Keep an Updated list for SBOS driver.. Why stay back in the stone age
ages.. When we are up to 1.23.. So what in a month you might haveto change
a couple switches.. To keep it updated... BUT Thats the point.. KEEP an UP
DATED list.. Not an Archaic list...


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ummackse@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris Macksey)
Subject: Technical info needed for SB emulator.
Summary: Tech info needed for making SB->SMII emulator.
Keywords: SB Sound Blaster Master
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:42:45 GMT

Hi,

I'm contemplating making an emulator for my Covox Sound Master II that
makes it emulate a Sound Blaster (or SB Pro, maybe).  However, I find
myself rather low on technical info on the SB.  About all I know is that
the port for the SB D/A is 0x220, and the port for the Covox is 0x22f.
Any ideas how to route from 0x220 to 0x22f?  Also, I remember (vaguely)
that the SB has environment variables that need to be set in order for
it to function correctly, anyone know what these are?

Thanks for any info,

Chris.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mjohnson@force.decnet.lockheed.com (Mark E. Johnson)
Subject: Thunderboard Windows driver
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Organization: Lockheed, USC, and UT-Austin
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 21:22:39 GMT

I got a Thunderboard for Christmas, and I'm a little disappointed in the
effect in Windows 3.1. It seems like the driver-installer used the
Soundblaster drivers for the Thunderboard. That makes sense, I guess, but I
wonder if Mediavision has produced their own Windows driver that would be
superior. If so, is it freely available?

________________________________________________________________________
-Mark Johnson                         mjohnson@force.decnet.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: stewarta@netcom.com (Alex Stewart)
Subject: Re: On GUS memory (question)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:43:49 GMT

david cole (dcole@ua.d.umn.edu) wrote:
: Unfortunately, this method works for a bass, but you are off-bass when it
: comes to pianos  :)  Note that if it were true, you wouldn't have current
: synthesizers with 4-8 megs of standard sample rom just to get mostly acoustic
: instruments.  And a good piano takes 1 meg or more of sample.

Ok, I admit I probably underestimated piano space quite a bit (it is, after
all, one of the more complicated instruments available), but I refuse to accept
that a piano does not have redundant characteristics in its waveform.  They may
well be significantly more complicated than just repetition, but that doesn't
mean that similar techniques can't be used to describe them.

Also, you seem to be convinced that the only way to reproduce a piano is to
sample every note in its entirety.  This is quite simply not so.  The only way
to _perfectly_ reproduce a piano is to sample every note in its entirety, but
the whole point of synthesized music is the trade-off between accuracy and
technical requirements.  You can produce a very nice sounding piano with the
techniques I described (or logical extensions thereof).  It won't sound exactly
like the real thing, but if you want that, you can go out and buy a $50,000
synthesizer.

-alex
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From: mcng@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Markus Ngus)
Subject: Midi and GUS (software required)
Keywords: MIDI, GUS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:20:18 GMT

I am new to MIDI, but interested in getting a Keyboard for the GUS.  My question
is : I know that the keyboard will input the 'notes' played on the keyboard into 
GUS for playback and recording, but I 'm curious about which software will I 
use to control and place multiple tracks (sequencing)  Since there is no
GUS naive software support for MIDI yet (maybe winjammer) but I'd like something like CAKEWALK for windows, which reconizes the GUS but there's no GUS setup for 
it.   

Mark Ng.



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From: ittschir@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Tim Tschirner)
Subject: Re: pas 16 drivers
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:59:46 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <1993Jan1.3445.4515@dosgate>, "john lorenc" <john.lorenc@canrem.com> writes:
|> 
|> NG>Anyone know the status of new drivers for the PAS?  Is there
|> NG>any way to FTP the latest, or must I dial their BBS (Long distance!)
|> NG>to download them?
|> 
|> You can try Compuserve - GO MEDIAVISION for the latest Windows v 1.44 
|> drivers - WIN144.ZIP
|> 
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You can also get them from the PAS FTP site ftp.uwp.edu in the pub/msdos/
proaudio directory as PASW144.ARJ

Tim

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ewenm@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Ewen Macdonald)
Subject: Making MIDI patches ?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:34:59 GMT

I want to create my own MIDI patches, could someone tell me 
how to do this using the GUS. Are they just .snd files 
renamed? Also I can't seem to load any patches other than 
those in the general MIDI specification , I have tryed
changing the ultrasnd.ini file and using the new patch
loader but it just plays the old patches. Can anyone help?

Thanks
Ewen

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: hsiaoe@rs6420.ecs.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao)
Subject: Re: PAS-16 and a few new games
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:38:36 GMT

Set the Soundblaster part of your PAS-16 to IRQ 7 (hardware jumper) and set
the PAS part to IRQ 5.  I think Dune II only recognizes a SB at IRQ 7...don't
know about Air Warrior.  Or you can go through with Norton Diskedit and search
for the hex code 20 02 07 and change it to 20 02 05 (for IRQ 5).
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From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS CH Interface, is it regular SCSI?
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:46:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1993Jan4.214616.14390
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1993Jan4.200127.23931@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> fisher@decwin.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>|>One thing that needs pointed out though is some CD's don't even need
>|>connected to the soundcard.  There are basically two kinds of CD's when it
>|>comes to sound.  The first play sound through the bus.  This includes
>|>games like Carmen Sandiego and Sherlock Holmes.  They play their sound
>|>through the bus, just as if they were run from your hard drive.  For this,
>|>you don't need any connection to the soundboard.
>|>
>|>The other kind has regular CD audio tracks.  Mammals for example uses this
>|>kind of sound.  You either need speakers or headphones connected to the
>|>CD-ROM drive or you need a cable to connect the drive to the soundcard. 
> 
>Interesting.  I assumed they were all the former.  So has anyone gotten
>Sherlock
>and Carmen to work with a GUS?  Does it assume SB, and thus need SBOS?

The reason I even mentioned them is because I have them.  Yes they both
work fine with SBOS.  No extra settings I believe.  I should also say that
they are two of my best sounding games.  The sound is excellant.  Of
course being on a CD, they also both use a lot of digitized sounds. 
Especially Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Dectective.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: Re: GUS - Some questions before I buy
Keywords: gravis ultrasound soundcard gus
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:40:20 GMT

> 1. Does it support sound recording?
 
Yes, the basic card supports sound recording at 44.1Khz in 
Stereo at 8 bit resolution.  There will be a daughter card you 
can plug onto your GUS which will enable 16-bit resolution 
recording.
 
> 2. What is the best configuration to get? Are there
>    different amounts of RAM, features, etc.  I would be
>    using the card mainly for games and some sound recording
>    (nothing professional).
 
The card ships with 256K RAM.  Even though games' minimum 
requirements might be 256K RAM, I'd advise you to upgrade the 
RAM to 1 MB because eventually this is what software companies 
will be using.  It'll only cost you another $30 to $40 Canadian.
 
> 3. What is the cost?
 
Retail $199.95, Street Prices I've seen in Canada are $165 to 
$200.
 
> 4. Where is the best place to purchase it?
 
If you live in Lower Mainland BC, the new computer paper has 
Megatech advertising the GUS at $165 or $169 with 1 MB.
 
> 5. Anything else I should know?
 
I dunno, is there?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: Re: On GUS memory (question)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:17:44 GMT

> > I remember from the GUS digest that it's impossible to load sample
> > playing, so you'd have to fit all samples a song needs in memory a
> > guess it might be possible to stop playing and load in a new lead 
> > for example, without notable delay. 
> 
> Apparently this IS possible, but no software has yet been written
> to support the feature.
 
No. no. no.  You can't be loading PATCHES while playing from 
memory.  You can always use a single voice like a dumb DAC 
found on the SBs and PASs with double-buffering to play long 
samples.
 
So you can either treat it like a dumb DAC and do all your mixing 
and manipulating etc with the CPU before you send it to the 
DAC and get crappy sound SB or PAS sound or you could use the 
GUS wavetable synthesis abilities and get awesome sound.  To 
use it's wavetable synth stuff, the patches must be loaded 
prior to playing.
 
Waiterz!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: goh@deathstar.dell.com (Peter Goh)
Subject: GUS or SB16?
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation IS Networking Services
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:01:49 GMT

I went shopping for a soundcard today, and was surprised that the store
here carry the GUS. Then I read on the box that to record 16 bit sound, 
one have to buy the optional plug-in, and probably to add more memory 
onto it, and if needed also a CD-ROM interface. My question is, where can 
I get them or how much would they cost? I am pretty new to the soundcard
thing, so isn't sure whether I should settle for a GUS or a Soundblaster 16.
I am holding back on buying until I am sure.

Another question is, is the GUS MIDI MPU-401 compatible? I am hoping it is 
so that I can remove the MIDI card I have from Music Quest to make room.
From what I heard, the SB16 MIDI port is MPU-401 compatible. I am currently 
using Cakewalk Pro/Windows, planning to get Finale and Microsoft Video for
Windows (Video capture from my Win/TV, sound ?) and want to be sure that
they are all compatible.

I would appreciate if anyone could shed some light on this. Thanks!

Peter Goh
goh@deathstar.dell.com
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mpearson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Matthew Pearson)
Subject: multisound HELP!
Keywords: hultisound
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:30:17 GMT

Is the Turtle Beach Multi-sound Sundblaster or PAS compatible by any means??

Danke

Matt

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: woan@exeter.austin.ibm.com (Ronald S. Woan)
Subject:  GUS CH Interface, is it regular SCSI?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:25:26 GMT
Reply-To: woan@cactus.org
Organization: Austin School of Hardknocks

Geez, I read all of the replies to date and none of them really
answered the orginal question... AG has released an LMSI interface
($49 and yes it was what was shipped in the package offered by Damark)
and will be releasing a Sony proprietary interface as well as a SCSI
interface in the near future (on Compuserve the AG rep said two weeks
to a month for the SCSI interface). All of these interfaces are
daughtercards.

Hope this clears things up...
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From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS CH Interface, is it regular SCSI?
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:29:46 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <92366.080650MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu> MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu (Matthew E. Bernold) writes:
>Ok, maybe this will clear up the problems some people have been having
>with soundcards and CD-ROM drives.
>
>To use a CD-ROM drive with a soundcard, you need two things, a controller
>for the drive, and a connection to the soundcard so you can record from the
>CD, or play the CD back through the soundcard's amp.  Many people have
>recently been confusing the two, and I haven't seen anyone trying to clear
>the situation up.  On Creative Labs soundcards, the INTERFACE part is non-
>standard (NOT SCSI), but you can still hook up ANY CD-ROM drive that has
>it's own interface card to the soundcard's audio in (either the 3 or 4 pin
>CD-in connector, or just a line in) without any problem.  Same type of
>thing with the GUS.  If you have a CD-ROM with it's own interface, like a
>seperate SCSI controller, you can still hook up the CD's audio in to the
>card.

Thank you very much; this is helpful.  I'm not quite sure how this
affects me, someone who hopes to order a GUS ASAP, so I'll ask a
followup.  I'm not sure if I need to order the SCSI interface option
when I order my board.  I don't intend to hookup a CD-ROM right away;
I'm just getting the board for my kids educational programs and for
my games.  I really don't care about multimedia games that need a
CD-ROM to work.

I probably will get a CD-ROM drive eventually, though.  One that looks 
interesting is the $399 Radio Shack one on sale (till 1/23) for $199
(sorry, but I have the model number at home, not here).   I couldn't get 
a data sheet out of them, but the salesman said he had one at home and it
works great with his SoundBlaster.  He said that there is some sort
of audio out so I ought to be able to hook it up to a GUS.  What I'm
not clear of is if I would need to order the SCSI option or something else
for this.

I don't know that I would ever want to try to drive any
SCSI CD-ROM, hard drive, or anything else from my GUS.

BTW, does anyone have Gravis' phone number?  There is an 800
number (I think in one of the files from the mailing list) but
it didn't work for me, and I struck out trying to find their number.

Thanks for any help!
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From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: soldest1.669!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:12:55 GMT

Otay ebbybody, I we-upwoaded soldest1.arj to epas just as
I said I wood.  I hope ju like it!
 
Who's da clown who sed dat da Pwo Awdeeo Spectwum 16 is
da best?
 
I know da UwtraSound isn't da best soundcard out dere but
it definitely is betta dan the Pwo Awdeeo Spectwum 16.

If Jew couldn't make sense outta dis message den two bad.
 
Waiter ebbyboddy!

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From: mcaldwel@netcom.com (Michael Caldwell)
Subject: Re: split this group ?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:14:33 GMT

In article <1iv4giINN11e5@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> YDAB@BR1.HRZ.TH-DARMSTADT.DE (HRZ, BERATUNG) writes:
>
>What would you think about adding a group :
>comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.gus
>????????
>
I think this is an excellent idea.  I would say that 90% of the discussions
that go one in this group are related to the GUS.  I don't have a GUS and I
spend most of my time junking GUS articles rather than reading the articles
I am interested in.  If GUS owners don't want a new group and since I own
a Thunderboard how about a comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tb?

Michael