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From: Robert.Mccurdy@f1044.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Mccurdy)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Wake Co. EMS
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:02:00 GMT


    Joseph, I go for interview on 12/2 at 3:00p. I'll be coming down on
the 
1st and leave on the 3rd. Can you reccomend any decent places to stay?
Also, 
can you give me any additional info on Wake Co. EMS system (ie fire dept
or 
3rd party service, types of runs, Promotions?) I hope to try and find
you 
down there when I come. If you need any other reports, let me know and
I'll 
bring them down.
                Bob McCurdy  
 
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From: matthews@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Matt Sullivan)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Some Acronyms
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:43:20 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <17718@bcars664.bnr.ca> Henry.Troup@BNR.CA writes:
>The acronyms fly thick and fast, and I'm accumulating a good sized list:
>
>ACLS	Advanced Cardiac Life Support
>ALS	Advanced Life Support
>BLS	Basic Life Support

I too have a list of EMS/Medical related terms. If you want it, AND YOU
HAVE A VALID E-MAIL PATH (I hate bounced mail), **E_MAIL** me and I'll 
e-mail it back to you. I'm not about to post it to the net, so don't
ask.


Matt Sullivan  Northeastern University
MatthewS@Lynx.Crc.Northeastern.Edu

MA EMT-MAST


PS it's about 5K long
From: William.J..Vital@f430.n107.z1.fidonet.org (William J. Vital)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: volunteers
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:23:00 -0800

          Dave Pfister sent

 If you noted in my original post, I said New York.  I know that states
vary on this.

Opps, sorry about that.  Guess I read too fast and missed the "York."
===
 * TLX v1.55* I don't remember volunteering for this "Ring" business.


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From: John.Linko@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Foreign language trans.
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:02:33 GMT

AT & T language line is a possible alternative. This is a service that 
provides interpreter services by telephone. They send you a reference 
card when your service or dispatch center subscribes. They can determine

what language is needed and connect you with an interpreter 24 hours a 
day. It's not cheap, but if one dispatch center purchased the service 
all the services using the center could benefit. AT&T operates the 
service, they can be contacted in the usual fashion. JL


 * Origin: SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA (1:129/26.0)
From: Wes.Williams@f193.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Wes Williams)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: NFPA 1500 - minimu{2
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:26:03 GMT

BM>   Sorry you are going through it too Wes
 >
 >  WW> Relax, better to blow off a little steam here amongst
 

Ahhh, but we are all going through the same thing, only differences 
are in the degrees. (pun intended)
 
BM>   Thanks Wes ;-)    I needed that
 
Ennnney time Barb, anytime a-tall!
 
 >    <g>, names omitted to protect the innocent :)   How far
 >    are you from Quincy or Melrose?
 >
 
We're on the No. Shore, 18 miles No. of Boston. 80,000 pop, on the 
Atlantic. On a map, look for the spit of land that is the first one 
no of Beantown (Nahant) and So of Gloucester. (pronounced in Yankee 
"Glostah")
 
 >    Take care...*Barb*
 
We try... keep on keepin' on!
 
\/\/


 * Origin: NPI III (617) 592-5772 Lynn, MA 01904 (1:101/193.0)
From: Darrin.Culver@f53.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Darrin Culver)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Code 99
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:32:00 -0800

BU>DS> specifically mean when someone (dispatcher, EMT, etc) says it's a
"code
BU>DS> 99"? I have a scanner at my home so I can hear all the excitement
in my

        I know that your getting a lot of answers to your question.
Just
        to add contrast I thought that I'd tell you that in my County
we
        use no "Code's" at all. Well, except 10-4 ofcourse.<G>


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 * Origin: BEAR HEAVEN BBS (914) 677-6948 MILLBROOK NY (1:272/53)
From: George.Vaisey@f237.n260.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: LAST TIME!!!
Date: 15 Nov 92 00:08:00 GMT

Dave,
        I received it.  My address is George Vaisey fidoNet number
1:260/237.  I would like it if this was the LAST time I used public
area.  I again received messgaes about e-mail (not just my month).  Talk
to ya soon.


                        George vaisey

 * Origin: PARADISE, BBS -Rochester, NY- (716) 621-7637 (1:260/237)
From: William.J..Vital@f430.n107.z1.fidonet.org (William J. Vital)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Afa training..
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:25:00 -0800

          Kevin Agard wrote

I must take exception to this statement.. Neither the state or any
localities in NJ Have any requirements for level of training
(Unfortunately). Most squads set there own and the are some that require
only CPR and Standard First Aid. As ridiculous as this sounds, it is
true, I left one Volunteer organization over just such a policy. OEMS
has yet to make any regulations at all governing Volunteer
organizations. (Also Unfortunate) The only ones who have taken a stand
that I ma aware of is the NJ First Aid Council. I believe they advocate
a minimum of EMT-A. They however, have no enforcement authority.

NJFAC member squads are "supposed to" adhere to basic level of training
(EMT-A & CPR).  If they don't fall under the NJFAC, then they will abide
to the NJ Dept. of Health regs.  This was, as I remember it, a
compromise agreed to.  I believe OEMS has no power to make any regs. The
political powers allow NJFAC to oversee the Volunteer Squads. I believe
the Fed. Highway Safety Act (1974??) started the ball rolling.

===
 * TLX v1.55* Why so many politicians and so few statesmen?


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From: Barbara.Mezzanini@f7.n2609.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mezzanini)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Ambo uniforms & Protocols
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:44:00 -0800

 -=> Quoting Alex Maxwell to All <=-

 AM> G'day all
 AM> I work for the New South Wales Ambulance Service and I was
 AM> wondering what your views are on Ambulance/paramedic uniforms?
 AM> We currently have Navy blue trousers with light/sky blue shirts.
No
 AM> problem there I hear you say the problem is that it is almost
 AM> identical to the uniform worn by the Police. Also any thoughts on
the

   Our FD, City of Utica, New York, USA had the same
   uniforms as you, we then went to all navy, the same as
   Police, and had a lot of trouble on scene being mistaken
   for them, especially in hostile environments. Our FFs are
   also at least Basic EMTs now, a requirement for new
   recruits. Our skill levels as far as EMS have no
   distinguishing uniforms insignia or such, but our Fire
   Officers, Lieutenants & Captains have the collar bars and a
   lighter (med) blue shirt. DCs & Chiefs, white shirts and
   collar brass. It was a big problem being mistaken for the
   police, even though we arrive in BIG RED Fire Apparatus.

 AM> that are held. Does anyone have their protocols, procedures and
 AM> pharmacologies on computer disk? I am interested in paramedic /
EMT-P

   Sorry Alex, we don't have them on disk. Did you have any
   specific question? Our current FD/EMS certifications go up
   to AEMT-CC from Intermediate then Basic levels. Our CCs do
   administer certain drugs, IVs, ETs, EKGs, etc... our
   intermediates are now doing ETs. Good luck in your request
   for the info. BTW, are you FD and EMS, or strictly EMS?

   Take care...*Barb*
... When a man brings his wife flowers for no reason--there's a reason!
 * Origin: PowerLine 315-865-4070 Marcy NY (1:2609/7.0)
From: sprb_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Michael Sperber)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: fire department monopoly
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:24:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <722217061.AA21411@remote.halcyon.com> James.Ackerman@f139.n138.z1.fidonet.org (James Ackerman) writes:
> 
>My question is this....I hear this is a nation wide trend....Are there
>any other areas in which the fire dept. is trying to get into the
>ambulance business OR are there any other areas where they are trying to
>get OUT of the transport business?
> 
>James Ackerman
>TACOMA, Wa 
>

I guess the main thing that depends on EMS switching from Private Companies
to City/Town Full-time Paid Fire Departments, is the area and call volume
of the department.  In my hometown (West Hartford, CT) we have a fulltime
paid fire department (5 Engines, 2 Trucks, 1 Command Vehcl.) and we have
EMS covered by a private Commerical ambulance company.  The town (as far as
I know) owns 2 4x4's which are ALS fly-cars, staffed by the Commerical
company's Paramedics.  These vehicles are NOT allowed to be removed from the 
town (that is they cannot be pulled from town to respond to another call
that the company has running).  This system works well, except sometimes the
company gets very busy and has difficulty getting an ambulance available to
respond to a call in town.  NOW, since our FD is not a VERY busy department,
I think a good idea would be to move ALS as well as BLS transporting to the 
FD, and have the Commerical's back-up the FD.  And if this is not possible,
at least move the ALS fly-cars to the FD (ie, FF-Paramedics) and make all of 
the FFs EMTs and then roll ALS and an Engine on all EMS calls, and have
the Commercial provide the transport.  This way if the commerical is
backed up and will take a little longer getting an ambulance available
the FD can have the pt packaged and all ready to be transported when the
ambulance arrives.

	Just a thought.

Mike Sperber
NY CFR
Unv Of Rochester
Medical Emergency Response Team
   Ast. Director Operations/Administrative Officer

-- 
Medical Emergency Response Team			Brighton Vol. Ambulance
Crew Chief / Executive Board    		Dispatcher / 2nd Medic
     sprb_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu   sprb_ltd@db1.cc.rochester.edu
                          SPRB_LTD@UORDBV.BITNET
From: Joe.Tomaso@f702.n278.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Tomaso)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: NOTIFICATION NETWORK
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:04:26 -0800

                         *** WOW ***


Ct. Fire Notification is doing much better than expected. We now
have more than 300 members and are still growing.We have also added
a TIP line,so if you hear any good fire/police calls call us at:
1-800-851-TIPS (8477).Also,we now have people calling in from all over
the country. Our pagers are also good nationwide. It's $15.00 for 
start up plus $7.00 a month for dues and $12.00 a month for your
pager.So give us a call today: 203-772-1088 or 800-851-8477.
You won't believe what you've been missing until you join.


                                            Joe Tomaso
                                            Ct.Fire Notification
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From: Kevin.Agard@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Agard)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: bbs #
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:49:00 -0800

Clark,

Your reply to my message about your BBS numbers arrived with a quote of
my entire message but text from you. Could you re-post these numbers.


Regards,

KMA

FidoNet : 1:2604/111
CServe  : 71035,2365
Prodigy : PMBN50A
Internet: kevin.agard@f111.n2604.z1.fidonet.org
          71035.2365@compuserve.com

 * QMPro 1.0 41-4546 * Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent
vocabulary.


 * Origin: Deredain's Realm BBS - Home of NJ EMT & Paramdedic Assoc.

Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: brent@greatcircle.com (Brent Chapman)
Subject: Sources for SAR/ES uniforms/gear?
Originator: brent@napa
Organization: Great Circle Associates; Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:05:58 GMT

What are some good catalog sources for emergency-services-related uniforms
and other gear?  I've already got the Galls catalog, but it seems heavily
oriented towards law enforcement, with a little bit of EMS stuff, even less
fire service stuff, and next to nothing for search and rescue (my particular
area of interest; I'm a Civil Air Patrol mission pilot, ground team member,
and air search coordinator).  My biggest complaint is that they don't have
jackets and uniform shirts and such in orange, which is what I want for CAP
ground SAR work.


Thanks!

-Brent
--
Brent Chapman                                   Great Circle Associates
Brent@GreatCircle.COM                           1057 West Dana Street
+1 415 962 0841                                 Mountain View, CA  94041
From: Barbara.Mezzanini@f7.n2609.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mezzanini)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: TV Trivia
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:49:00 -0800

 -=> Quoting Steve Sharp to All <=-

 SS> With all the chat of late about Emergency, Rescue 8 etc, just
 SS> wondering if an english series titled "Londons Burning" has ever
been
 SS> screened in the US or Canada?

   Hi Steve, sorry to say... I've never heard of
   "Londons Burning", but would be willing to trade a tape or
   two of old Emergency episodes on VHS format, if you were
   to have any of Londons Burning, I'd love to see it :)  Is
   it a currently running series, or in re-runs?

   BTW, how far are you from Melbourne? Just received info
   the 1995 World Police & Fire Games has been announced,
   they will be there Feb. 26 thru Mar. 4th. Have you heard
   anything about it? Just curious.

   Take care,

   *Barb*

... Warp 9? I kinna do it, Captain-The modems will overheat!
 * Origin: PowerLine 315-865-4070 Marcy NY (1:2609/7.0)
From: Bob.Smallwood@f1044.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Smallwood)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Emergency Show
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:59:00 -0800

RM>  what was the name of the ambulance company that provided
RM>  transport?

Wasn't it Mayfair Ambulance ??


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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:29:57 -0500
From:         AIRBORNE THE FIREMAN IS BACK <CDUNBAR@UNTVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Looking....

Susie,

Hmmmm....  not sure about Oklahoma or Arizona....  BUT

Texas isn't that far away =)

We have Brayton Fire Training Field at Texas A&M University (one of the BEST
fire training schools in the world).  Also, way down south in Baytown, we have
Lamar University's Firefighter Training School.  There are several other ones
in Texas.  Try contacting the Texas A&M Engineering Extension Service for more
information...

But if Texas is too far and too far along for you, sorry =)

Christophe
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:00:40 EST
From:         WRIGHT@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      Re: KING VHF handheld radio for sale

>Hi there. I have a Bendix King LPH vhf handheld for sale.
>This radio comes with accesseries. The asking Price is$550.00
>The reason I must part with it is I need the money for school tuition.
>Ireally don't want to sell it,however I seem to have no choice.
>To sumarize:
>King Mph 5143 14ch vhf---{this unit is re-configued for access to 2m}
>DTMF installed
>Metel housing{the MPH is just a LPH with the metel case}
>LAA0207 Speaker/mic {the NEW one}
>8 hour hi perforence battery LAA0125
>Swivel type case made of leather with cutouts for keypad and screen
>trickle type 14hr charger
>
>If you know anything about a king, this is a heck of a buy.
>The radio is FIELD prgramable with a cloning key.
>
>Call me at 406-721-9630 or Email me at petey@selway.umt.edu or
>                                       po__pge@lewis.umt.edu


I wish I had the money for this  this sounds like a GREAT BUY.

I have a 2 friends that uses the KING  one is a police officer and the

other is a Firefighter

Tim Wright KD4OVM
From: Marty.Garcia@f876.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Marty Garcia)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: PATCHES!!!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:14:00 -0800

Looking to swap some patches with a few other people. Anyone interested?
Doesn't matter if it's police/fire/ems. I will send you 2 patches from
my dept if you can spare 2 patches from yours. I am helping out a friend
who is also starting out his collection (he is also supplying the
patches for me too, so I am doing him a favor).

If you are interested - please leave mail for me via this echo, and we
will swap addresses.

Thanks! Appreciate it..

Marty

 * Origin: Motel 6 - We'll Leave The Light On For Ya! (1:141/876)
From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Gif's of Fire Stations an
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:38:00 -0800

EM> Thanks for the reply.  I'll check you out.
EM>
EM> Ed Matthews FF/FR
EM> Brookline, Missouri, FPD
Ed:
Your Welcome and welcome aboard to Whistle Stop...
Plus you have been upgraded to..

Later..

Paul..  
 
 * Origin: Whistle Stop BBS {Berkshire County Fire Board} (1:321/233.0)
From: Joe.Nicholson@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Nicholson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: tapes of comunications
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 20:25:04 -0800

     *** You thus spoke:

PGE> Hello. I am looking for recordings of fire radio dispaches etc.
PGE> I would apprciate any help. Would be willing to exchange--


Peter, we've been offering a recording of the dispatch, fire
suppression
and SAR efforts following the PSA plane crash in San Diego.  We also
have
tapes from the Aerospace Museum and Old Globe Theater incidents.

We request two fire department patches per tape, and mail tapes the
same
day patches are received.  The address is:
          The General Alarm
          13650 Proctor Valley Road
          Jamul, CA 91935



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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: wday@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: fire department monopoly
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:46:21 GMT


 James.Ackerman@f139.n138.z1.fidonet.org (James Ackerman) writes:

> I am a five year paramedic working for Shepard LifeFleet in Tacoma, WA. 
> I am also a strong Union advocate.  Due to the recent budget crisis
> nation wide, we here in the Pacific Northwest are seeing the fire
> department expand into areas of ALS and patient transport traditionally
> help by my company, forcing people out of work.
>  
> What is most sad is the fire dept. is singing to the public of
> unanswered 911 calls and babies burning if the public does not approve
> their special levy.  What they are not telling them is that they will
> have to wait for a fire department paramedic unit to come even though a
> much closer and qualified private ambulance is closer, AND that they
> will not only increase taxes, but charge you a TRANSPORT FEE on
> top....usually more than a private carrier.  If it sounds like a
> political nightmare, IT IS......

> It would not be as bad if the private carrier was doing a bad job, but
> we are not...LifeFleet is a well respected organization and we find we
> can acutally do a better and CHEAPER job than the fire dept. 
>  It seems they are trying to justify their existence by taking over 
> EMS, regardless of the patient care or cost factors.
>  
> My question is this....I hear this is a nation wide trend....Are there
> any other areas in which the fire dept. is trying to get into the
> ambulance business OR are there any other areas where they are trying to
> get OUT of the transport business?
>  

Much to the contrary, it seems to be a national trend that cities are
wanting to privatize their ambulance service.  The rumors are flying fast
and furious that Dallas is to be the next large city to go private... we'll
see what happens, eh?

Public perceptions often are that fire departments are "better" than a private
service... and most of that is because (in my humble opinion) the private
services have not paid enough attention to doing PR work like they should
have.  You have to keep telling Gertrude and Uncle Clem that you're better
trained, and more adept than their local fire boys.... and maybe they'll
believe you after hearing it over and over and over.  Until then, you're
fighting a losing battle, it sounds like.

I work for one of the larger private providers and understand your 
frustration - but it's all a matter of perception being reality!

G'luck!

 Wayne
 EMT/Paramedic @ MedStar Fort Worth

Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: KED's leg straps
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:57:22 GMT

Kevin.Agard@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Agard) writes:

>Sir,

>You should really consider getting some facts before spouting such
>tripe!

>The "boys in the big city" to whom you are referring are following
>local
>protocols. Said Protocols were adopted and implemented by both our
>Medical Director and MAC Committee.

>They were adopted for a very specific reason: the use of the
>leg straps was found NON-beneficial and possibly deleterious to the
>patient. When applied to a patient in the sitting position it becomes
>almost impossible to the lie the patient supine on a long board with
>out
>then having to readjust the straps and move the legs, both of which can
>and do cause movement to the lower spine. Also of note should be the
>fact that a KED was designed to provide CERVICAL spine protection NOT
>full spinal immobilization. The C-Spine IS adequately protected w/o the
>use of leg straps.

>In short, it would seem that you believe that anyone who does not agree
>with YOUR methods of doing things is lazy or looking for a short cut.
>This does not bode well for someone who is in a business were change in
>procedures and knowledge is the norm..

Well, one person's "Tripe" is another person's local protocol!  In a recent
recert course I was told we would fail if we forgot to put the leg straps
on.  The reason was that the KED could ride up and cause cervical damage
when the patient was lifted.  I guess all this proves is that there are
differences of (informed) opinion.  What bothers me more is that people
accept local protocols as the word of G*d and believe that their particular
set is correct and all others are wrong.  Though I wonder what happens in
a court case when someone asks: "...and just why did the manufacturer put
the leg straps there, and what is their purpose..."

-- 
Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)
From: Jim.Limmer@f110.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Limmer)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Dispatch - Software
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:31:00 -0800

 GV> Jesse,
 GV>         If you are still interested in a FREE? 
 GV> dispatching system write me and let me know.  It 
 GV> involves tieing a computer into your radio and from 
 GV> there with Quick Basic you can simulate fire tones.  I 
 GV> have done this allot and have FUN with it.  It has a 
 GV> 50/50 chance of working but a penny saved is penny 
 GV> earned.  Write me back.

ive done this before with turbo pascal, but i cant quite figure out how
to hook up my radio.. ive hooked up my speaker output to the mike input,
but i doesnt seem to work.. any suggestions?

-Jim


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