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From: freund@sakura.cs.ucdavis.edu (Jason Freund)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Best installation of OS/2 + DOS 5.0?0!
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:39:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

Hi all,

I'm looking for advice as to the best scheme of partitioning and
formatting to install OS/2 2.0 and DOS 5.

I plan on using the boot manager so that I can take advantage of the
HPFS.  The install manual seems to suggest a 4 meg partition for DOS, 
and then the rest of the HD as a logical drive, formatted for
HPFS.

But wait a minute.  The purpose of installing a separate version of DOS
is to be able to run certain programs that won't run in an OS/2 DOS
session (like the game Ultima 7), right?  But if all my software is
installed in the HPFS logical drive, then the separate DOS installation
won't even see it, right?

In short, what does the manual REALLY want me to do?  I'll be using a
240 meg HD.  What do you think would be the best way to set it up, and
how big should I make each partition?

(Yes I'm somewhat of a novice and pretty clueless :) But, I've read the
FAQ and examined a few of the commercial OS/2 books and tried a couple
different trial installations before posting this.  No flames, please.)

Thanks for your help, Netters!
Ben Freund

please e-mail:
freund@roses.Stanford.EDU
From: "richard anstruther" <richard.anstruther@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: undocumented calls
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:59:30 EST
Reply-To: "richard anstruther" <richard.anstruther@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

-> RA>BTW, did you notice the latest expose of MS's use of undocumented
-> RA>system calls in Windows to give their apps the inside track over
-> RA>the competition?  It 's in the latest PC week.
->
-> Where?  I have both the August 17 and August 24 issues in front of me
-> (the latter arrived yesterday) with nothing on that.  Also, if that
-> were true then the FTC would definitely be doing **something** with
-> the information

It's in the August 31 issue.

One would hope that the normally docile FTC _will_ decide to do
something (for a change).

In the article, MS seems to be back tracking a bit.  While at first
they denied the behaviour, now they seem to be admitting it, while
maintaining that the undocumented calls weren't all that important
anyway.  It would be breathtakingly arrogant if it weren't
so sleazy.
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From: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: csd dates
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:48:07 EST
Reply-To: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Robert Fielder wrote on 09-01-92 regarding UN: CSD dates:

RF>Are these sales people who 'defected' from Microsoft?  <g>

Robert, here in Ottawa I find it interesting to note that many of 
Microsoft's current sales staff, account reps and even system engineers 
are folks who "defected" from none other than IBM. :-)

Roj

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From: plim@hpsgwp.sgp.hp.com (Peter Lim)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:23:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Gateway 486/66DX2 system and OS/2 (was Re: Gateway 486DX2 system)
Organization: HP Singapore IC Design Ctr
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

Just an interesting thought. It seems like most people equate "motherboard 
designed and made entirely in USA" to "high quality motherboard".
And that motherboard made in Taiwan are "cheap and flaky". Is there any
truth in it?

I have the following fact. One of the bigger (YES! not the biggest)
386 motherboard manufacturer in Taiwan churns out 120,000 motherboard 
every month (YES! 120,000). If they have quality problem, they would
be drowned by rejects already!

Just a thought.


Regards,     ___o``\____________________________________________ ___ __ _ _
Peter Lim.   V````\  @ @ . .. ... .- -> 76 MIPS at under US$20K !! - -- - -
                  /.-------------------------------------------- === == = =
             >--_//      . .. ... .- -> 57 MIPS at under US$12K !!
                `'       . If you guess SUN, IBM or DEC, you guess wrong !

E-mail:  plim@hpsgwk.sgp.hp.com   Snail-mail:  Hewlett Packard Singapore,
Tel:     (065)-279-2289                        (ICDS, ICS)
Telnet:        520-2289                        1150 Depot Road,
                                               Singapore   0410.

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From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: EA DATA. SF file size
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:59:43 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory

In article <1992Aug25.210634.143339@zeus.calpoly.edu> jemenake@zeus.calpoly.edu (Joe Emenaker) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.192458.21679@ni.umd.edu> dan@ni.umd.edu (Dan Burns) writes:
>>
>>I have a PS/2 Model 80 with a 330 meg hard disk the with over 250 megs of
>>disk space used (mostly old dos stuff), that I have OS/2 installed on using
>>a FAT system and dual-boot.  My EA_DATA._SF is over 11 Meg in size right now
>>(11059200 byte).  Is this normal?  At home I have a 35 meg HPFS system and
>>140 Meg FAT system (on the same disk), and the file is just over 110K.
>>
>>Is something wrong here?  I am using kernal revision 6.311 dated 92/05/14.
>
>Well, my understanding is that the EA_DATA file has the extended attributes
>for the FILES on your hard disk, so the size should be more proportional to
>the NUMBER of files on your HD rather than their total size. On my machine,
>I've got about 2000 files and my EA_DATA is a little over a meg. That comes
>to about 500 bytes per file. Sounds reasonable since I heard that the
>EA_DATA is used to store the icons from your OS/2 and Windows EXEs.    
>
>My advice would be to first check the number of files on each hard disk and
>see if the proportions are a bit more similar than they are when you
>compare EA-DATA size with actual total file size.
>
And you've got to remember those cluster size games we play with DOS.
The actual minimum is one cluster per file for the EA's.  With HPFS that
is 512 bytes, with DOS 5.0 it is 2kb for partitions less than 120M and
4-16kb as your partitions get larger and larger.  I don't remember the
numbers for DOS 4.0 and the work arounds for > 32M used by earlier
systems but they were horrendously wasteful of disk space.


Robert McBroom internet: rm3@ornl.gov
From: MTC107@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Extended Services forsale
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:53:14 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I recently received my Extended Services upgrade after a long wait.  During the
wait I selected another package to accomplish what I needed.  Thus, I would
like to recover some of my initial investment in the Extended Edition of OS/2.
The packages are completely sealed, having never been opened.  If anyone is
interested please mail me.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Collard x7468)
Subject: NEC Silentwriter2 model 95
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 16:22:01 GMT

I was considering purchase of this printer for OS/2
and so yesterday I called NEC at 1-800-NEC-INFO.  

I talked to tech support.  They said they have not been
told that OS/2 will be supported.  It is not supported now.
Real bummer.  I told him they should support OS/2.

Anyway, now I don't know what printer to buy.  I want postscript
and high quality printing and lots of fonts and HP emulation and
auto-detection and 
  I want it for $1400 dollars (going price for a model 95).  
What postcript laser printers does everybody else use with OS/2?
Do the model 90 drivers work with
it?  Maybe I should still get this printer and hope NEC sees the
light and writes OS/2 drivers.

Let me know your suggestions, and also if you have a postscript
laser that works with OS/2 mail me the model.

Oh, also a local printer store is trying to sell me an Everex
Laserscript LX.  Anybody know if this will work with OS/2? Or
any other comments?  The salesman was not very knowledgeable (surprise!).

--Thor
collard@capsrv.jhuapl.edu
dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mkohtala@lesti.hut.fi (Marko Kohtala)
Subject: Re: GNU GCC 2.1
Reply-To: Marko.Kohtala@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:33:19 GMT

In <tdhnfmg.genie@netcom.com> genie@netcom.com (The Genie) writes:

>Hi.  I just downloaded the GNU GCC 2.1 package from hobbes and
...
>I type "gcc hello.c"
>After 3-4 seconds of disk usage, OS/2 responds:
>SYS1808:
>The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
>code (exception code) is  0006.

I too had the same problem, but managed to get a file compiled by
placing

	SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 1024 8192

into CONFIG.SYS. I had tens of megabutes free on the C: partition.  I
use FAT partitions. I had the same problem with both the original GA
kernel and with the 17.6. batch. Also the problem was with 2.1 and
2.2.2 versions of GCC/2. My friend also had this, so I guess this
problem is not so uncommon.

I do not know what the exception code 6 means, nor any of the other
codes. Anybody care to tell me where is the list for the exception
codes? I am interested, since LESS177 gives often exception 5 and
never works.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: PMCOMM!!!
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 23:34:03 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

PMCOMM and PMCOMM32 support ZMODEM. PMCOMM32 supports HPFS too.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 problem with Adaptec 1542B ?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 18:05:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.170446.7679@news.columbia.edu> cl45@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Ching-Tse Liu) writes:
>	I have just replaced my ide drive with a SCSI drive using
>Adaptec 1452B. When I tried to reinstall OS/2 on the new drive, it
>had problem reading disk #9 till I pressed retry several times. Once
>it was installed, everything seemed to be fine except when I tried
>to read, copy from, format drive a: when I performed other tasks in the
>foreground. Error message would come up to inform me that there was
>a problem with the drive a: response. Now if I do copy from a: in the
>foreground, everything is fine. And the overall response under multitasking
>seems to me slower than when I had an IDE drive.
>	Does anyone know if OS/2 2.0 has a problem with Adaptec 1452B
>with Seagate ST41200N SCSI hard drive, or the floppy controller on the
>Adaptec ? I have an ISA 486-50 with AMI bios. Everyting works fine
>like before except the problems I mentioned above.

Yes.  There are certain floppy timing problems, as you discovered.
They have been fixed.  You can download the fix via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Look for ahabeta.zoo, right now in /pub/downloads.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: sort fails on 400k file
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:52:41 GMT

In article <Btyw00.HnK@well.sf.ca.us> shiva@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth Porter) writes:
>I wanted to sort a text file, line length less than 80 chars, total file
>size 379438, on the second field, and the 2.0 sort told me that it had
>insufficient storage. What's going on?

The OS/2-supplied SORT is a bound executable, meaning it will run
under both OS/2 and DOS sessions, and also meaning that, in order to
remain compatible with DOS sessions, it inherits the limitations found
in DOS SORT.

You said you reverted to a Unix solution, but that certainly isn't
necessary.  There are a number of SORT replacements for the OS/2
"side," including the GNU alternatives ported from Unix.  Check
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu via anonymous ftp.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
Subject: Registering OS/2
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:43:11 GMT

I telephoned in today to register my copy of OS/2 which I bought at the 
PC'92 show in Melbourne, Australia (yes, you can register by calling a
number in the registration card), to my surprise, the lady did not even
ask for any serial number of the copy I have. All she asked for is my 
initial and surname, address, where did I purchase it from, and in what
PC I am running it in.

So, my question is how do they even know that I have a real copy with me?


Did anyone go to the Developer's Seminar '92 in either Melbourne or Sydney?
Are the goodies they give out (32-bit Graphics Engine, Developers Migration
Kit from Windows to OS/2, and etc) any good?
Can the 32-bit Graphics Engine Beta be put in an ftp site for the general 
public? If yes, any volunteers?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: genie@netcom.com (The Genie)
Subject: New kernel fix
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:17:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


I'd like to know people's experience with the new kernel fix
released by IBM.  IBM recommends this new kernel to everyone running
OS/2.  Of the many things it fixes, it fixes the bug that
keeps the swap file one constant size, instead of changing
the size due to the system's needs.

I've installed the kernel for about 2 weeks now, but have
not yet noticed that \os2\system\swapper.dat change in size
onece yet.  Did I install the kernel incorrectly if this is
that case?  Or am I worrying about nothing.  The size
is currently 4194304 bytes.  Thanks in advance.

Gene
From: schmiher@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hermann Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Can't delete an icon
Keywords: can't delete an icon, readonly
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:53:48 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Originator: schmiher@hphalle8f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de


In article <bwiersema.26@bss2.umd.edu>, bwiersema@bss2.umd.edu (Brian Wiersema) writes:
|> Problem:
|> >>I have an icon on my desktop that I can not get rid of. Here is how I
|> >>created it.
|> Horst responds:
|> >Finally I succeded by:
|> >1. Moving it onto A:\ by:
|> >2. Moving it to a subdirectory on A: the same way as above
|> >3. Deleting that directory (I don't remember which way)
|> 
|> Well, my undeletable icon is a network printer icon that refuses to moved to 
|> any other folder/drive/directory.  IBM-OS2 Tech Support was stumped, too.
|> Their suggestion (other than Alt-F1):  open a shadow of the system clock and 
|> move it on top of the bugger. :)
|> 
|> Any better ideas?

I've had this problems, too. Horst's trick worked for me.
Note: do not drag the icon. Instead open the context menu,
select Move. Then determine the target location manually.
(Sorry, I can't tell you the appropriate option's label of the english
version). The Move button should then be accessible. Push it
and the dammned thing will leave your desktop. If this has worked,
you might like to see your old friend in the target drive folder
before you reformat the diskette...
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman)
Subject: Printing from a WIN-OS/2 Session:  What's wrong??
Followup-To: hartzman@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Keywords: printing, win-os2
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:34:10 GMT

HELP!  I'm trying to print from WIN-OS/2 sessions and nothing is happening.

I've disabled the Print Manager under a full screen WIN-OS/2 session as the
Tips & Techniques document stated.  I've tried going to LPT1 and LPT1.OS2.
I'm running TCP/IP 1.2.1, LPRMON (print redirected from LPT1 to the Sun), and
I'm not having any luck at all.

Fortunately, I CAN print from OS/2 sessions!

HELP!!


Please email responses.  Thanks.

Les.



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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HELP - OS/2 hangs (but not completely)
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:45:33 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada

What I have been doing is developing DOS programs under OS/2
using Microsoft C version 6 (text, no graphics). With OS/2,
I do the compile/link in one window. And while it's working away, 
I can jump to another window to work on another file (or whatever
other thing I want to do but they will all be DOS stuff). This
arrangement has worked well except every once in awhile, when I
do a Ctrl-Esc to switch to another window, I'll get back to desktop
the Window List menu shows up, but than hangs. I can't move the
cursor with my arrow keys and I can't click anything with my mouse
although my mouse cursor does move. I can't press all the keys in
the world which eventually fills the keyboard buffer and OS/2
beeps back at me. The mouse moves around but I can't click on
anything and both buttons have no effects. I have the system clock
sitting at one corner it seems to be still running. In fact, all
the jobs that I do have running at the time seems to keep running
fine (I can see the disk light going and when I think it is finish,
I reboots and look at my log file for this program and it shows
that it did finish ok). So for some reason, Ctrl-Esc freezes my
keyboard/mouse input once the Windows List menu pops up. But as
I said, it would work fine and then it hangs.

Patterns, it seems to happen only when I'm compiling with the
MSC 6 in one window, and it doesn't matter what I have in any
other windows. I;ve read the README file and it has no mention
of problems with MSC 6.

System, I have a 33 mhz 486, ATI XL 1 Meg running at 1024x768x256
mode, Logitech Mouseman (Bus).... nothing else special.

Anyone seen this before? Ctrl-Alt-del works by the way. And that's
how I reboots and carry on where I left off except OS/2 sure takes
one heck of a long time to start up!

Thanks in advance.

Thomas.

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From: bjorn@ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 Win3.1 support *better* than MS!
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:10:56 GMT
Organization: Lule} H|gskolas datorf|rening ( Ludd )

In <JEFF.92Aug28111259@claw.clearpoint.com> jeff@claw.clearpoint.com (Jeffrey J. Griglack) writes:
>Fall, to me, means September 22 to December 20.  I suppose most people
>in this country consider December part of winter, but winter doesn't
>begin until December 21.

Hehe. This does indeed raise an interesting question. Here, it's indeed fall
now. No one can doubt it. Just take a look out the window and see the endless
rain and the coloured leafs. In October, or at the latest, November, it's
absolutely winter. So when will it come? And what about Steve Withers, and
his fellow New-Zealanders? When's fall there? April or something?

I'm sorry. Just being in a silly mood for the moment...
   _
/Bjorn.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Subject: Re: Os/2 and Jpeg, viewers available?
Reply-To: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Organization: New Mexico State University - Electromagnetics Group
	<1992Sep1.231611.28562@njitgw.njit.edu>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:45:08 GMT


In an article dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <Sep01.191834.72228@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mm459504@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Michael Miller) writes:
>>After playing with some native os/2 graphics programs, I became curious as
>>to the availability of a jpeg viewer a la winjpg for windows (or alternatively,
>>a 256 color seamless driver) so's I could have the picture onscreen at the
>>same time as everybody else.
>>
>>
>>Winjpg crashes when it tries to load big pictures (even if I set DPMI_MEM_LIMIT
>>to 10+ meg) so I'm stuck with jpg2gif in a dos box.
>
>I've used ColorView '286 with no problem under WIN-OS2.  Look for a
>cview286.* package.  I suggest trying the usual Windows archives (like
>wuarchive.wustl.edu) first.  There is also a cview386 package, but it
>requires Enhanced mode, so WIN-OS2 can't run it.

I don't believe this is true. At one time I think I had the cview386 package
on my PC running under WinOS2. My understanding was that it used some 386
specific instructions but did NOT use anything specific to Windows Enhanced
mode. It's been a while since I used/installed it, so I may be wrong, but it's
worth a try!?

Gary Hennigan
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From: S_ESPENLAUB@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Klaus Espenlaub)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Which mouse should I buy??????
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:07:39 GMT
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Hi to all,

I'm going to buy an new mouse and I'm wondering if there is any 3 button
mouse which can be used under OS/2. Under DOS everything works fine, but
OS/2 makes fuss about. So I'm planning to buy an new one, and I've heard
than the Logitech mice work. Could anybody enlighten me with a good
suggestion?

Thanks for all

ps. please don't post replys, because I'm not very often at university in
the near future. Please send mail.
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