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From: backstrom@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::backstrom)
Subject: RE: What does LANSESS do?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:00:14 GMT
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

>                             alistair@mits.com.au
>                             What does LANSESS do?
>
> What does LANSESS provide?  In the Pathworks for DOS Client Commands
> Reference, it states that LANSESS enables you to connect to file
> services.  However, this seems to work fine without loading LANSESS.

    LANSESS is a component used, if you want to run file and print
    services over the LAST (Local Area Services/Systems Transport)
    protocol (the same disk services, LAD, Local Area Disk uses).
    
    LANSESS provides a minimal NetBIOS API (barely enough to make,
    break file/print service connections) for the Redirector.
    
    In other words, when the Redirector asks for a connection, if
    LANSESS is loaded, it first tries to connect over LAST. If
    the LAST attempt times out, it switches over to DECnet (if
    DECnet is installed).
    
    Do not that due to the minimal NetBIOS support (DECnet has
    full NetBIOS support), LANSESS does interfere with many
    NetBIOS applications (Lotus Notes, CloseUp/LAN, etc.). That
    is, if you plan on using NetBIOS applications, and they do
    not work, try removing LANSESS.
    
    ...petri (petri.backstrom@ljo.mts.dec.com)
       Personal Computing Integration Engineering
       Digital Equipment Corporation
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: iscnwl@nuscc.nus.sg (NG WEI LIN)
Subject: Pathworks TCP/IP for DOS & VMS
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:07:05 GMT

Hello,

	We have encountered some problems:

	One of our VAX systems is installed with Pathworks for VMS and
we have a PC installed with the Pathworks for DOS TCP/IP.  The problem
is that we can only connect to the PCSAV41 resource on the VMS.  We
cannot see any print queues.  In fact, we can't see any services
provided by the VMS server.  A few print queues were available on VMS
before we installed Pathworks.  The printers are not directly connected
to the VAX system but are connected through a terminal server.
According to the manual, all existing print queues are automatically
available as a resource to the Pathworks for DOS clients.  Am I right?
Is there anything that I have missed out?  


Wei-Lin Ng (email:ngwl@iscs.nus.sg)
National University of Singapore
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: USE hangs PC
From: bachism <BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU>
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:18:39 -0500
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Are you using TCP/IP or DECNET?????????
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: PathWorks vs Novell
From: Dave Lennon <348588060@VUVAXCOM.BITNET>
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:58:00 -0500 (EST)
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N Werner Mortensen <WERNER@MFC.PANUM.KU.DK> writes:
 
> When I'm away my non-privileged users need an utility to reset and restart VMS
> execution queues. Sometimes somebody turns off a printer and somebody else
> keeps sending prints.
 
You might want to look at setting a ACL on the queue. This would allow your
non-prived users to perform operations on it. Something like:
 
$SET ACL/OBJECT_TYPE=QUEUE/ACL(ID=[*,*],ACCESS=WRITE) queue
 
You might want to create a rights identifier and grant that to certain users
you want resetting queues and set the acl to that.
 
 
                                 Dave Lennon
           Systems Programmer, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
             Utilizing the VAX Cluster at Villanova University PA
                         ( 34858806@vuvaxcom.BITNET )
 
                        "The VAX is a harsh mistress"
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: This LISTSERVER is READONLY, message returned
From: John Chadwick <CHADWICK@UNMB.BITNET>
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:46:00 -0700 (MST)
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please stop this messaging.
 
john chadwick
chadwick@unmb
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Dialogue on PATHWORKS
From: "Nalley, Gary K." <nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU>
Date: 20 Nov 1992 02:19:25 -0600 (CST)
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Hi,
 
Is any educational institutions there using a package called DIALOGUE on a
PATHWORKS LAN?  From my understanding of the product, Dialogue is a student
prospect management system with many modules for other things, such a Fin. Aid,
etc.  If you are, what are your experiences?  Did it take any "tricks" to get
it working on PATHWORKS?  They recommend a NOVELL LAN but I have my hands full
with our PATHWORKs one.  I would like to keep just one if possible.
 
Thanks in advance.  ANY help would be *GREATLY* appreciated.
 
Gary
 
 
        +-------------------------------------------------------+
        |   Gary. K Nalley         Network Specialist           |
        |   Computer Services      nallegk@okra.millsaps.edu    |
        |   Millsaps College       nalley@decus.org             |
        |   1701 N. State St.      Fax:    601.974.1168         |
        |   Jackson, MS 39210      Voice:  601.974.1140         |
        +-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Remote PC connectivity
From: BESSETTE@VSDEC.NUSC.NAVY.MIL
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:52:43 -0500
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We are presently running Digital's PATHWORKS for DOS and Mac.
Our server is a VAXserver 3100.  We enjoy excellent connectivity
to remote Macintosh users using modems with Shiva TeleBridges (or
just modems) at the remote sites dialing into modems/Telebridges
connected to Shiva FastPaths here at the server location.  We
would like to be able to have similar simple connectivity for the
remote PC users.
 
The Shiva NetModem E supports Netware but not PATHWORKS according
to the person who answered the 1-800 number today.
 
I know we could do async DECnet.  The down side to this is that
the VAXserver has only one port with modem control.  Also, we
only have an end node DECnet license and have been quoted a price
of over $4K to upgrade to a full routing license.
 
Being just a VAXserver, there are no interactive logins for users
to initiate a kermit process to receive files from the PC.
 
Anyone have any ideas.
 
TIA
 
Bob
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: RCV for Windows
From: "Nalley, Gary K." <nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU>
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:35:02 -0600 (CST)
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> Hello,
> Several computers have been added to our pathworks network, because
> of bundling they are using Windows 3.1.  I am currently looking around
> for a RCV function for windows to be able to broadcast to these users
> as well.  Is there such a thing?
>
>
> Roy Ruiz                         |  "Whats a Human?" - Iguana
> UT-PA                            |  "Delicious and nutritious
> BITNET: RUIZ@PANAM               |   tastes just like chicken" - Batty Coda
> Internet: ruiz@panam2.panam.edu  |
 
I know there exists one on the DECPCI forum of CompuServ.  I don't know of it
existing on the net.
 
Gary
 
 
        +-------------------------------------------------------+
        |   Gary. K Nalley         Network Specialist           |
        |   Computer Services      nallegk@okra.millsaps.edu    |
        |   Millsaps College       nalley@decus.org             |
        |   1701 N. State St.      Fax:    601.974.1168         |
        |   Jackson, MS 39210      Voice:  601.974.1140         |
        +-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: dual transports with NDIS???? -Reply
From: Jim Becker <BECKERJA%WPO1P%WPO2V@SNYCENVA.BITNET>
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:08:00 -0500 (EST)
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>Subj:     RE: dual transports with NDIS????
>
>No problem (usually ; ), provided you load DLLNDIS as a device
>driver in CONFIG.SYS (yes, it can be loaded as a device driver
>or a TSR in STARTNET)...
>
>There are some details in STACKS.ZIP that's available on our
>CompuServe forum (DECPCI). You should be able to get STACKS.ZIP
>through your Digital Customer Support Center...
>
>    ...petri (backstrom@ranger.enet.dec.com)
>       Personal Computing Integration Engineering
>       Digital Equipment Corporation
 
 
I recently tested this configuration of DLLNDIS and ended up with
a "Network name not found" error when trying to connect to the
system service.  Since I have tried without success to get
STACKS.ZIP from DEC, perhaps someone (Petri?) can expound on the
process needed to make this work.
 
I'd be very interested in whether this can be loadedhigh
(potentially saving 32K of conventional memory.)
 
==================================================================
Jim Becker          |  __   LAN WP ____\ VMS WP ____\ WP/VMS Mail
State Univ. of NY   | |ME|  Office     / Office     /   Gateway
Central Admin.      |  ~~                                  |
TEL: (518) 443-5548 |                                      |
FAX: (518) 443-5799 |  ___   /~\__/~\                      V
E-MAIL:             | |YOU| |Internet| /___ Joiner /___ Innosoft
  BECKERJA@SNYCENVA |  ~~~   \_/~~\_/  \     JNET  \      PMDF
==================================================================
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: RE: RCV for Windows
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 20 NOV 92 13:17:06 CST

In a previous article, ROY RUIZ - STROY <RUIZ@PANAM.BITNET> wrote:
>Several computers have been added to our pathworks network, because
>of bundling they are using Windows 3.1.  I am currently looking around
>for a RCV function for windows to be able to broadcast to these users
>as well.  Is there such a thing?

If you have DSNlink WINRCV is included in csc patch # 3046.


Carl Karcher                          Internet: KARCHER@WAISMAN.WISC.EDU
Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: anderson@Williams.EDU ()
Subject: SETHOST problems on monochome monitors
Keywords: Sethost 
Reply-To: anderson@Williams.EDU ()
Organization: Williams College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:55:40 GMT


  We have a very disturbing prbolem.  Here's the senario...  PW 4.1, Dos 5 on a \
PS/2 mod 30, monochome monitor.  Running sethost with the /mono qualifier. 
One in a seesion on the Vax edit an existing file with tpu.  After moving
the cursor to a arbitrary location a few spaces are inserted.  (yes, insert mode
verified)  The screen behaves as though you're in overstrike mode and puts
spaces (or any other character) in its place.  Hit the backspace key, voila,
normal text, spaces/character inserted properly.  The situation is repeatable
over and over --until-- you get into setup (f3) and back out.  a quick toggle,
that's it...  not settings changes or anything...

Anyone else run into this?  Also, has anyone sucessfully dealt with the
environment varible "bitmaps" for screen attributes?  On mono, some of our
screen pacakges don't display properly.

Thanks -  Jim

--
********************************************************************************
Jim Anderson						Williams College
Systems Manager						Center for Computing
janderson@williams.edu (Internet)			Jesup Hall
janderson@williams.bitnet				Williamstown, MA 01267
							413-597-2082
********************************************************************************
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Pathworks TCP/IP for DOS & VMS
From: Ta Fuh Chiam <chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU>
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:36:14 -0500 (EST)
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>        We have encountered some problems:
 
I don't think you encountered any problem, you just have not done what is
needed. :-)
 
>        One of our VAX systems is installed with Pathworks for VMS and
>we have a PC installed with the Pathworks for DOS TCP/IP.  The problem
>is that we can only connect to the PCSAV41 resource on the VMS.  We
>cannot see any print queues.  In fact, we can't see any services
>provided by the VMS server.  A few print queues were available on VMS
>before we installed Pathworks.  The printers are not directly connected
>to the VAX system but are connected through a terminal server.
>According to the manual, all existing print queues are automatically
>available as a resource to the Pathworks for DOS clients.  Am I right?
>Is there anything that I have missed out?
 
No, the VMS print queues do NOT "automatically" appear as services under
PATHWORKS. You will have to add printer services to point to the print queues
that already exist. Use the PCSA_MANAGER utility to do this. PCSA_MANAGER also
allows you to create print queues if you do not already have them.
 
Ta Fuh Chiam
============================================================================
Ta Fuh Chiam
Ohio University, College of Business Administration / Phone: (614)593-2088
Management Information Systems                        FAX:   (614)593-0319
Copeland Hall 22                   INTERNET : chiam@vulcan.cba.ohiou.edu
Athens, Ohio 45701, U.S.A.            or    : chiam@ouvaxa.ucls.ohiou.edu
                                   BITNET   : CHIAM@OUACCVMB
                          Use my first Internet address if at all possible.
Disclaimer: What I have said are my opinions, not of anyone else.
============================================================================
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 09:39:58 PST
From: <TERESA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Unable to re-start Pathworks for Mac successfully

We have a Vax 8600 running VMS 5.5-1 and Pathworks for Mac 1.1. We
basically use Pathworks to give VMS users access to the Laserwriter
printers on our network.

When the Vax is booted Pathworks comes up fine and all printers are
accessible. However, if we run @MSA$SHUTDOWN and then @MSA$STARTUP none
of the printer names are found.

We have a Cisco Router separating the Vax from the rest of the network.

Has anyone else seen this problem or have any ideas? Thanks.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Pathworks vs Novell
From: Matthew Holdrege <HOLDREGE+_MP%A1%PacifiCare@MCIMAIL.COM>
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:33:00 +0000 (GMT)
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>There is no functionality inherant in Pathworks, which after all
>is Microsoft Lan Manager over Decnet, which isn't available in
>Novell.  It's add-on products such as Teamlinks and Mailworks
>which make Pathworks even remotely acceptable.
 
The functionality comes with the VMS operating system.
 
>Maybe the language is a little harsh but the facts are right.
>Pathworks printing is garbage.  You might be alright if you have
>Dec printers but if you buy something else you are immediately
>pushing the doo doo uphill.
 
Just because you can't get the printing to work doesn't mean that its
garbage. The rest of us don't seem to have a problem. We have hundreds of
various printers, most of which are HP. We also have Xerox, Fujitsu,
Dataproducts and other sundry brands. Don't let your incompetence ruin the
name of a good product.
 
>Yeah, right.  That $7000 VaxStation 4000 VLC that will support 30
>Pathworks users loading applications and Windows off the network
>against that $4000 486 with 16 bit ethernet card that will
>support between 50 and 100 Novell users doing the same.
 
In reality you can get a VLC for under $4000 if you shop right. However the
pricing really sways towords Pathworks when you scale up to hundreds of
users. You can serve that many PC's on a 4000-90 or 4000-100 with gigabytes
of storage and 128 mg of memory for a lot cheaper than a Novell PC server
solution. Plus you get all the advantages of VMS. You could even DSSI cluster
two 4000-100's and shadow the disks for full redundancy.
 
>I have a document from Digital which states that the Pathworks
>user limit for a user that has all their files on a VMS file
>server and loads the applications and Windows from the server, on
>a VAX 9410 (40 VUPS, over 6 times faster than a 4000 VLC) is 90.
>Thats $1 million Australian dollars for your 100 user file
>server.
 
That is total crap. Either you can't read right or Digital Marketing made a
mistake. You can serve hundreds if not thousands of PC's from a 9410.
 
>The above statements are the opinions of Carl Makin.  The
>Australian Government Department of Health, Housing and Community
>Services is in no way associated with or responsibile for these
>opinions.
>--
>Carl Makin, MVS/ESA Systems Programmer, VAX/VMS Dabbler.
>Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services, Canberra, Australia.
>sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au!hhcs!makinc   -   UUCP
>makinc@hhcs.gov.au                 -   Internet
>vk1kcm@vk1kcm.act.aus.oc           -   Packet Radio
>"I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you."
 
Matt Holdrege              5156065@mcimail.com
Pacificare Health Systems  holdrege@eisner.decus.org
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Help Reqd Printing Graphics On HP LJII
From: matt@vulcan.mentec.ie
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:57:33 GMT
Organization: Mentec Computer Systems, Dublin, Ireland
Nntp-Posting-User: matt

Hello,

I have only just registered to this newsgroup and this is my first post so 
please no flames if this question has been asked before :-)

We have a DECStation 5000 with PATHWORKS V4.2a. We also have a printer attached
which is printing ASCII fine. (It is an HP LaserJet IIP). When we try to print
graphics to it they mess up a little (also you cannot download fonts etc).

It looks to me like a problem with something somewhere putting some extra
characters into the print, maybe a CR or LF or something ?

Does anyone have any ideas, or even a full solution !!! :-)

If a solution has not been posted before could you E-Mail me and I will
summarise.

Thanks

Matt Roxburgh - Mentec International (UK) Ltd.
                Networks Support

                matt@mentec.ie

P.S. the printer is connected via LAT.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: What does LANSESS do?
From: alistair@mits.com.au
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:59:03 +1000
Organization: MITS


What does LANSESS provide?  In the Pathworks for DOS Client Commands
Reference, it states that LANSESS enables you to connect to file
services.  However, this seems to work fine without loading LANSESS.

Any information or pointers to an appropriate manual will be much
appreciated.

Thanks,

Alistair Grant

Internet:     alistair@mits.com.au
Alternate:    alistair%mits.com.au@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PathWorks vs Novell
From: N Werner Mortensen <WERNER@MFC.PANUM.KU.DK>
Date: 21 Nov 1992 10:40:00 +0100
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I aggree with Carl Makin completely !
 
There is no reason whatever to flame the printing facilities in PathWorks. We
have several printers DEC, nonDEC, Apple LaserWriter, Kyocera and HPxxx setup on
our network. We use the DECprint utility for DEC2150 and for some HPxxx and one
LaserWriter. I know that the manual says it can't be done, but if you know your
way about in the libraries and the setup modules IT CAN BE DONE. DEC knows this
and when the next version of DECprint hits the streets my guess is that the
official support just might increase to cover nonDEC printers.
 
So from us: 3 cheers for PathWorks. It is all that we need in a network OS !
 
As usual we have one minor problem, which really is not a PathWorks problem.
When I'm away my non-privileged users need an utility to reset and restart VMS
execution queues. Sometimes somebody turns off a printer and somebody else
keeps sending prints. Under unfortunate circumstances this could crash the
execution queue and as the University can't afford a qualified substitute we
have a problem.
 
So, does anybody have a solution to this ? I think we all could do with a
utility that lets VMS- and PathWorks-users handle these occasional problems
without sacrificing security.
 
Regards,
**************************************************************************
*  N. Werner Mortensen          Phone:    +45 3135 7900  ext 2530        *
*  Network Manager              Fax:      +45 3135 7657                  *
*  The Faculty of Medicine      Home:     +45 3174 9212                  *
*  University of Copenhagen                                              *
*  Blegdamsvej 3                Internet: werner@mfc.panum.ku.dk         *
*  DK-2200 Copenhagen N         X.25:     238301043056::werner (DEC PSI) *
*  Denmark                      DECnet:   52482::werner                  *
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: This LISTSERVER is READONLY, message returned
From: "Michael Clay; BCS" <mdc8567@NYSSA.BOEING.COM>
Date: 16 Nov 1992 13:57:47 -0800 (PST)
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We're getting tons of LANWORKS traffic like the following:
 
From:   NAME: A discussion of Digital's PCSA product
        FUNC: MIAMIU <6=LANWORKS@5=MIAMIU@3=BITNET@2=DBP@1=DE@GMDBN-GW@RHEA>
To:     NAME: Multiple recipients of list LANWORKS
        FUNC: MIAMIU <6=LANWORKS@5=MIAMIU@3=BITNET@2=DBP@1=DE@GMDBN-GW>
 
 
From:   NAME: A discussion of Digital's PCSA product
        FUNC: MIAMIU <6=LANWORKS@5=MIAMIU@3=BITNET@2=DBP@1=DE@GMDBN-GW@RHEA>
To:     NAME: Multiple recipients of list LANWORKS
        FUNC: MIAMIU <6=LANWORKS@5=MIAMIU@3=BITNET@2=DBP@1=DE@GMDBN-GW>
 
 
From:   NAME: A discussion of Digital's PCSA product
        FUNC: MIAMIU <6=LANWORKS@5=MIAMIU@3=BITNET@2=DBP@1=DE@GMDBN-GW@RHEA>
To:     NAME: Multiple recipients of list LANWORKS
        FUNC: MIAMIU <6=LANWORKS@5=MIAMIU@3=BITNET@2=DBP@1=DE@GMDBN-GW>
 
.
.
.
 
The actual message text does follow after a dozen or so of the above messages.
Anybody care to fix the problem?
 
Thanks,
        MDC (claym@bcsaic.boeing.com)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: RE: What does LANSESS do?
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 18 NOV 92 11:58:14 CST

In a previous article, alistair@mits.com.au wrote:
> 
>What does LANSESS provide?  In the Pathworks for DOS Client Commands
>Reference, it states that LANSESS enables you to connect to file
>services.  However, this seems to work fine without loading LANSESS.

The way I understand it is loading Lansess allows file services to use the LAST
transport. If you don't load Lansess then file services use Decnet. Prior to
Pathworks V4.0 file services always used Decnet (only disk services used LAST
then). LAST is a more efficient transport than Decnet but is not a "routable"
protocol. So if you have a router between server and client, file services work
over Decnet (whether Lansess is loaded or not).


Carl Karcher                          Internet: KARCHER@WAISMAN.WISC.EDU
Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896
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