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Subject: Re: Facts about New Zealand
From: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 21:03:29 GMT
Reply-To: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Organization: Task Management Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr9.002816.2488@otago.ac.nz> anthrichard@otago.ac.nz writes:
>>  In article <1992Apr7.104426.22616@actrix.gen.nz>,
>Mary.Curtin@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes: > In article
><1992Apr7.091202.4557@csc.canterbury.ac.nz > phys218@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
>writes:  
>
>>> so long as they leave us alone to earn the income that keeps the idle
>>>masses of Otara, Mangere, Ruatoria, Hokianga, etc. etc. in the style to 
>>> which they have become accustomed.
>
>> 
>> I've seen the style to which the 'idle masses' of the latter two places
>>have 'become accustomed'.  I suspect that if they had real
>> alternatives, they would in almost all cases take them. 
>
>>  I agree, when I read the reference to 'idle masses' I felt physically
>sickened.  These are places where people are suffering real poverty.  Many

I defence of the original poster, who is now being quoted grossly out
of context, I don't believe he meant to imply that the people in the places
mentioned are idle or wasters. The implication of the statement was that the
politicians languish in luxury without addressing any of the real social
issues which exist in New Zealand today. Also that if they do brush these 
issues in passing they often describe the minority group in question 
in a derogatory or uncaring fashion.

Sometimes you have to read things twice instead of leaping straight to
the jugular. Satire is difficult to phrase in print and easy to miss
when you're skimming rapidly through hundreds of postings.       

Derek Tearne.


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Subject: Re: Facts About New Zealand
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:25:28 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Apr9.014647.19288@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
> derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) and banks_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz write
> much sound and fury about Wellington:
> 
> One thing Wellington could use is a decent airport.  There is a mandatory
> connection in Auckland (or ChCh) for any international passenger except
> those coming from Oz.
> 
> I heard they are finally _widening_ the runway at WLG, but what about
> lengthening it?  You wouldn't want to do it on the harborside, but
> what about out to sea?
> 
> RNA


The airport company that runs Wellington airport has a draft plan that
involves taking 180 houses adjacent to Wellington airport (on the Miramar
side) as well as the Miramar golf course.......among other things, I think it
would extend the runway by about 100-150 years seaward - at a cost of close to
$1 billion for the whole project. My guess is a lot of that would go into
extending the runway, because the sea there is pretty deep and the
currents/swells are as strong as any anywhere.
 
Others may have more detail - 
 
Steve
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: New Zealand Beer
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:26:11 +1200
 <1992Apr7.232833.1739@gaya.gp.co.nz> <1992Apr8.030625.7439@cc.uow.edu.au>
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr8.030625.7439@cc.uow.edu.au>, g9129499@cc.uow.edu.au (Jeremy Lawrence) writes:
> mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
> 
>>Some of the pubs sell Aussie beer as well. I can't imagine why ;-)
> Do you mean Fosters, XXXX, VB, etc? 
> They're NZ beers too, now :-) . 

I suppose you're right. I forgot about the Aussie beers being bought out. I 
was referring to XXXX (the beer for Aussies who can't spell). In my opinion 
it is definitely inferior to the New Zealand beers. Fosters is what Qantas 
serves when you ask for a beer - they don't know the difference between 
beer and lager. It is usually so well shaken up that most of it ends up on 
the tray table.

It seems strange that a lot of pubs here stock some of the Aussie brews, 
and yet not much of it gets exported between states in Aussie. The same 
goes for other things. A year ago my friends in South Oz told me about a 
great new drink call "Bundaberg Ginger Beer". They were very surprised when 
I said "Oh yes, great drink, I've been drinking it for a few years in NZ".

As for beer, I was glad to get back into the real New Zealand stuff when I 
got back from Oz.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Facts about New Zealand
From: phys218@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:12:02 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

Mary Curtin wrote, "Wrong.  It [the capital] was originally at the place
now called Russel, in the Bay of Islands.  At that time it was called
Kor ... (someone help me out with the spelling here ...)"

Still wrong.  The seat of government was the place that was THEN Russell
and now has one of those Maori names beginning with "O..."  Wasn't it
largely destroyed by fire?  Kororareka, which is NOW called Russell was
the notorious "hell-hole of the South Pacific" that upset the
missionaries so much.

I think it was Logan Campbell who saw the potential of Auckland and
enticed the government down there when things got a bit hot in the far
North.  Various places were proposed as capital, even Collingwood I
think.  Wellington seems to me to have nothing going for it except its
geographical centrality.  If it ceased to be the capital, I wonder
whether a town of any size would survive there.  

Mary went on to speculate, "There will be a BIG earthquake in
Wellington, the plans for emergency relocation of government in Auckland
will be put into effect, and lo and behold ... It might not stay there -
as a sop to the South Islanders, it might wriggle its way back down to,
say, Hamilton."

Why?  What difference does 70-odd miles make?  Provided we do not have
to put up with the parasites of Parliament and the unCivil Service in
our territory, why should we care where they end up?  Anywhere will do,
so long as they leave us alone to earn the income that keeps the idle
masses of Otara, Mangere, Ruatoria, Hokianga, etc. etc. in the style to
which they have become accustomed.

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Lyndon Watson                              L.Watson@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
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From: mchinander@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: New Zealand Beer
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:51:13 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Who is one of the worlds deepest ....
From: banksie@khantazi.welly.gen.nz (Philip R. Banks)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:45:35 +1200
Reply-To: banks_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 <1BkE+Tj014n@khantazi.welly.gen.nz>,<1992Apr15.192442.1417@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> <sdvBdly00XNIIQBqVy@cs.cmu.edu>
Organization: My Arc.

Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu writes:

> Yes, but what has that got to do with wise but evil unqueers?

   Well don't keep the joke to yourself... Please do explain. I am curious
as I don't belive I have ever struck a 'wise but evil unqueer' before...

    Philip

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From: mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: America's Cup??
Summary: yes, the Kiwis are in
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:22:14 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr17.095004.14649@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, mcwg9235@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marsha Cook Woodbury) writes:

> We live in the Midwest, and I haven't heard a thing about it.

the ESPN sports cable channel has regular coverage (Ted Turner once
did America's Cup racing :-))

> Is New Zealand really in the final? Was that ajoke?

Yes, NZ are in (against Italy? I think), and there is even a chance
that Dennis Conner may get bumped from the defence -- both the
challenger and defender finals are coming up over the next few weeks.
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Facts About New Zealand
From: prevmary@otago.ac.nz
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:20:59 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr7.212353.3643@ncar.ucar.edu>, amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
> In article <18Vu9rj013n@khantazi.welly.gen.nz> banks_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>>prevmary@otago.ac.nz writes:
>>   Never! Dunedin is way too cold for a Capital. Imagine all those poor
>>Civil Servants having to struggle through below zero temperatures in the
>>winter - they would freeze to death before they got to work! :-) 
> 
> Is that really such a bad thing???
> 
> 
> Andrew M.

SORRY BUT I DIDNT WRITE A WORD OF THAT ATTRIBUTED TO ME ABOVE.
AND ANYWAY HOW OFTEN IS THE TEMPERATURE IN DUnEDIN REALLY BELOW 0 DEGREES?
Mary Jane
Dunedin
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Subject: Re: Facts About New Zealand
From: banksie@khantazi.welly.gen.nz (Philip R. Banks)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:03:38 +1200
Reply-To: banks_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: My Arc.

amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:

[bits about Civil servants freezing deleted]

> Is that really such a bad thing???

   Hmmmm you have a point there. Anyone for the 'Move Parliment to
Christchurch' movement? :-) Maybe then I could be right in saying Parliment
moved south....

    Philip

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From: mwilson@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark C. Wilson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: bridge
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:24:42 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

banksie@khantazi.welly.gen.nz (Philip R. Banks) writes:

>   Sounds a bit daft to me. (No offense meant) We have one of the worlds
>deepest and nastiest straight's there and on top of that we get reasonably
>frequent earthquakes round here.... No I just wouldn't feel safe on the
>thing....

>   Besides which can they actually build a bridge *that* big?

>    Philip

I just want to correct a (surprisingly prevalent) error. The water separating
the North Island and South Island is Cook STRAIT (as in straitjacket, or
dire straits, not as in straight line.

Mark Wilson
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Subject: Re: Facts About New Zealand
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:39:12 +1200
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <19wznLj014n@khantazi.welly.gen.nz>, banksie@khantazi.welly.gen.nz (Philip R. Banks) writes:
> 
>     I dunno about a 'better' climate - we got more sunshine down here than
> Auckland does. Mind you it does get colder here... And both Auckland and
> Wellington are in imminent danger of being wiped out by local geological
> activity. So the primary reason in Wellington's favour is still it's
> geographic location.

Well, what about moving things to Nelson? Better climate, away from
Wellington's fault lines, close to National Parks and other scenic areas,
and closer to the geographical centre of New Zealand. On the other hand,
putting parliament there might ruin the place. 

Actually, does anyone know the incidence of earthquakes in the Nelson 
region. I know there have been some in the Nelson province, such as 
Murchison, but I am not aware of any close to the city.

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From: moir@cs.umd.edu (Mark Moir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: New Zealand Beer
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:28:48 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Apr13.141844.7391@waikato.ac.nz> slang@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>Brofords Hooker Ale. Now thats a damn nice beer. Quite sweet, Thick and Malty
>tasting. Stronger and a hell of a lot nicer (IMHO) than the fabled Elephant
>beer, but then that's nice enough too. Brofords (or is it Waitakari B....) are
>open on Saturday morning, just great for a trip up from Hamilton.

My God, are you serious?  I don't question your judgement, but I should 
share my only experience with Brofords.  It was in about 1986.  It was
on sale for $1 per dozen cans (not a typo).  We were poor students, and
bought up dozens and dozens of this stuff for a party.  Some of the more
committed drinkers (not including myself, of course), managed to drink
some of it, but most of it was just thrown on people.  About one can in 
six tasted as though it had a cigarette butt in it!  Uuuggghhh!  Anyway,
glad to hear that they make good beer as well.

Cheers

Mark
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re:  New Zealand Beer
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:29:13 GMT
Organization: It's Home, really...

In article <1992Apr7.232833.1739@gaya.gp.co.nz> mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.074552.5340@cc.uow.edu.au>, g9129499@cc.uow.edu.au (Jeremy Lawrence) writes:
>> mchinander@gacvx2.gac.edu writes:
>>
>>>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
>> N.Z.
>Some of the pubs sell Aussie beer as well. I can't imagine why ;-)
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    'cause an Aussie wouldn't know a good beer if it jumped down his/her
    throat??  ( :-)  <- explicit smilie, incase anyone missed the implied one)
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From: kldawkin@descartes.waterloo.edu (Kiwi)
Subject: Re: Facts About New Zealand
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:11:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.011213.29376@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> rfischer@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ray Fischer) writes:

>Must be nice living in a country where living in the capital city 
>is a plus point rather than minus.  Of the three N. American capitols
>only Ottawa can be considered a nice city, and even it is a bit dull.
>The weather isn't quite as nice as Wellington either, with several
>feet of snow in the winter and hot & humid in the summer.

By "three N. American capitals" I presume you mean Washington DC,  Ottawa,
and Quebec city? :-)

>Ray
>rfischer@cs.stanford.edu

Cheers.
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Facts About New Zealand
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: world 
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 01:46:47 GMT

derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) and banks_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz write
much sound and fury about Wellington:

One thing Wellington could use is a decent airport.  There is a mandatory
connection in Auckland (or ChCh) for any international passenger except
those coming from Oz.

I heard they are finally _widening_ the runway at WLG, but what about
lengthening it?  You wouldn't want to do it on the harborside, but
what about out to sea?

RNA
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Subject: Re: Facts About New Zealand
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:20:48 +1200
 <1992Apr9.014647.19288@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Apr9.062528.24975@actrix.gen.nz>
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr9.062528.24975@actrix.gen.nz>, Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> 
>                                        .......among other things, I think it
> would extend the runway by about 100-150 years seaward ....

Gee, that sounds like a really long term project :-) But then, Air New 
Zealand has been using the same old hangar as their domestic terminal for 
about 50 years, so another 100 years probably won't make much difference 
;-)

> FAX between 6am and 1pm Eastern ST      |  my head." R. L. S.
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From: ecopdg@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Mr. Paul D Gee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Strongcroft
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:11:46 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Joseph.

Old Thumper is made right here in Auckland by the New Begin Brewery
2 Miami Pde, Onehunga ph 634-1890.  Apparently the prices are quite
reasonable from them direct.

Cheers
Paul Gee

ECONOMICS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: New Zealand Beer
From: andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:49:30 GMT
Organization: Distributed Systems Group, Comp Sci, Victoria University of Wellington

In article <29E2449E.19635@ics.uci.edu> fielding@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Roy T. Fielding) writes:
>In <1992Apr6.225113.663@gacvx2.gac.edu> mchinander@gacvx2.gac.edu writes:
>
>>does anyone know where somebody can get some N.Z. beer besides Steinlagers?
>
>A much better brew is exported by Dominion Breweries and is called Kiwi Lager.
>It is a little more difficult to find, but definitely worth the search.
>It comes in 12 oz. (approx.) green bottles with gold-foil tops.
>
>Does anyone reading this know which DB (if any) this corresponds to in N.Z.?

Kiwi lager is the same in NZ.  It isn't as widely available as
Steinlager in NZ.  DB Export Dry is the beer they fight Steinlager
with over here.

andy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: anorris@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Andrew Norris)
Subject: Re: bridge
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:04:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.024408.21381@massey.ac.nz> A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove) writes:
>Has there ever been any political discussion about building a bridge
>between the North and the South islands?  If so what were the main
>arguments against the project?
>
Probably that the two islands move relative to each other, quakes,
wind and lack of any good reason.

		Andrew N.
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Subject: Re: Strongcroft
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 17 Apr 92 08:34:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

jdavis@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Joseph G Davis) writes:
> Would love to try out STRONGCROFT but I suspect it is not widely
> available in Auckland.

Well, ya'll just have to leave Yuppieland and come down here to try it. 8-)

> Talking of New Zealand beers, the other day I chanced on a strong ale by
> the name OLD THUMPER at the University Club ( not the University Common
> Room where the farthest you can go seems to be Black Mac). Can any netter  
> educate me on this beer,

Did you actually sample it?  

It has very strong hops flavour.  Rather nice, I thought.  

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From: oughton@brahms.udel.edu (Sean Oughton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: News for the week ended April 4
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:29:01 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Apr9.164449.4597@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
>News for the week ended Saturday April 4.
>

>McKinnon warns of time-bomb
>Population growth rates and a high unemployment rate for Pacific Islanders
>could become a social time-bomb, says the Minister of Pacific Island Affairs,
>Mr McKinnon. At a Pacific Island researchers' seminar he urged participants to
>set research goals and set up an information network. "I think one can start
>from the point that Pacific Island people in New Zealand feel they are being
>treated as second class citizens, and perhaps there is some justification in
>this," Mr McKinnon said.

Presumably he meant there was some justification to the *belief* that
they're being *treated* as second class citizens, rather than that they
actually are.  

Good thing he doesn't have the US ``special interest'' groups to deal
with after a remark like that. Half :-)

Do you type all this stuff in Alan, or is there a feed you can take it
from?  Either way, it's much appreciated.

	sean@brisvr.bartol.udel.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: News for the week ended April 4
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:25:15 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <28784@brahms.udel.edu>, oughton@brahms.udel.edu (Sean Oughton) writes:
> Do you type all this stuff in Alan, or is there a feed you can take it
> from?  Either way, it's much appreciated.

Actually I type it all in - which explains some of the spelling mistakes, but
not the grammer. I always make sure I type exactly what the newspaper prints.

Which brings me to yet another apology. Sorry, folks, but we're going to be
late again this week.

Alan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: gill@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gill Dobbie)
Subject: Re: bridge
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:41:25 GMT

A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove) writes:

>Has there ever been any political discussion about building a bridge
>between the North and the South islands?  If so what were the main
>arguments against the project?

Why build a bridge between the two islands? Who would want one?

gill
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