From: ahh@shoshin.Corp.Sun.COM (Aslam Haswarey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:08:56 GMT
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Erland Sommarskog, you write:

>>Subject: An article on Bosnia from the Chicago Tribune (from Haluk)
>> This article is written by Leslie H. Gelb.
>>
>> The day will soon come when two groups of leaders
>> are charged with crimes against humanity in Bosnia:
>> the Serbs who are killing Muslims and driving them
>> from their homes, and the Western leaders who are do-
>> ing little to stop this unspeakable brutality.
>>   The Serbian policy of "ethnic cleansing" is worse
>> than a crime; it is evil.
>>   The West's failure to confront this evil is worse than
>> a blunder; it is an abdication of our humanity.
>
> Fine. But the Muslims and Croats in Bosnia-Hercegovina who seceeded
> despite the obvious consequences are so sweetly innocent.

Mr. Erland, let's set the record straight here:

1. Mr. Leslie H. Gelb is no admirer of the muslim people.
2. He is absolutely right in being fearful of this type of behavior because
   today it's the muslim, tomorrow it will be other ethnic groups like the
   Jews in Russia. In fact, the Russians have already started on their Muslim
   minorities.
3. The only reason that the Muslims & Croats decided to secede were their 
   fears that they would be treated in the same brutal manner as ethnic 
   Albanians in Kosovo at the hands of the Milosovic, the butcher of Belgrade,
   & his murdering serb "brothers".

> Kardzic & co are crooks, no doubt, but accussing The West for not
> be able to handle other's people complete lack of sense and civila-
> zation, is complete - pardon my French - bullshit. The people
> responsible for fighting the war are those who are fighting it,
> not those who are not.

The West is ABSOLUTELY a guilty party in this.  If they wanted to be fair about 
handling this crisis in B-H, they should have not imposed the arms embargo
that they fully knew would only hurt the Bosnian Muslims & Croats. This while 
the Russians are openly supplying the Serbs with hoards of heavy weapons &
Greece is supplying their oil by rail thru Macedonia. Personally, I think 
the US should cut off aid (my hard earned tax money) to Russia & Greece for 
perpetrating this war by supplying arms to the Serbs & declare the two countries
terrorist states. (Oh wait, what am I saying.  That honor is only bestowed on
muslim countries. :-<)

> If The West is to intervene military in Bosnia-Hercegovina, Croats,
> Muslims and Serbs should be all considered enemies and the goal
> should be to establish a UN protectorate. I'm sad to say but
> the people there does not seem to be competent to rule them-
> selves any more. Only kill each other.

Applying the same logic, the Jews in WWII should have been considered enemies
also. Friend you amaze me. I hope you or your family are never subjected to the
conditions that the Bosnians Muslims & Croats are facing at this time. I suppose
if they were, you would use the same flawed logic while your mother/wife/sister
was being gang raped by a groups of cut throat thugs in an effort to commit
"ethnic cleansing" (... Oh no, not "genocide", it's "humane ethnic cleansing" as
the Serbs would call it. I suppose ripping open pregnant women to settle a bet
on the gender of the baby is considered humane ethnic cleansing. 

I suppose any one that wishes to defend his home is considered a perpetrator in
Mr. Erland's book.

> With this sort of reasoning, as soon as some tiny region tries to
> breakaway from its cruel dictator, The West would be supposed to 
> come to rescue. Forget it. The West power and mightness does not
> deprive you the responsibility of your own actions.

I suppose the West's power & might should be reserved for countries like post-war
Iraq, which is already down & out. If this is not hypocrisy, I don't know what is.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY. The Bosnian Muslims DO NOT want the West
to fight their war. They merely want the lifting of the arms embargo that only
hurts the Muslim side. Is that so unfair? If the West does not want to intervene
militarily to stop the war then at least let this be a fair fight.


-AH