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From: sdo@hoops.mitre.org (Sean D. O'Neil)
Subject: Re: Home Court for Det-Bos????
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:27:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.144604.29281@crd.ge.com> hanley@fyi.crd.ge.com (Christopher W Hanley) writes:
>|>On another note, wouldn't it be ironic if the Celts overtook NY in the 
>|>Atlantic for that coveted #2 seed, only to find Indiana had slipped to the 
>|>7th spot?
>
>Cleveland has already cinched up the #2 spot, but the possibility still exists
>for Boston to play Indiana, ie if Boston overtakes NY (more than likely)
>and Indiana holds off New Jersey (less than likely) this would make for 
>a #3 vs #6 matchup - reminiscent of last year's playoffs


No.  If Boston overtakes NY, they get seeded as #2 (i.e., they get to play the
#7 seed in the first round) by virtue of the fact that they won the Atlantic 
Division.  If they then meet Cleveland in the 2nd round of the playoffs,
the Cavs get the home court advantage on the basis of their superior record.

Sean
From: am402@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alex Canada)
Subject: Re: Cavs STOMP Bulls
Reply-To: am402@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alex Canada)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:43:46 GMT


In a previous article, wp01jst1@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (John Tomas) says:

>
>It was also three games in four days: as I recall when the Cavs had
>that schedule they lost by 26 with all their best players: but what is
>11 points in the playoffs?  If Jordan comes back and plays it could
>be a *real* dose of reality for the Cavs.  Probably will be.
>
Cavs were without one very key player! Ehlo, the only guy who has any
chance of holding Jordan under 90 pts. Boy, is it just me, or do the
Bulls fans around here, have a big EGO? :)
-- 
"Sometimes people don't understand, what they have until it's gone...
some people don't know somebody loves them, until it's too late baby..
you better wake up girl, and realize what u got baby.." - Keith Sweat
Alex Canada -- am402@cleveland.freenet.edu    CAVS in '92
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Depression Strikes Again
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:35:49 GMT
Organization: My Daddy, My Doggy, and Me
X-Bytes: 

>
>Last week I commented, re Dennis Rodman, that I never heard of an NBA
>player who missed a game because of "depression".
>
>Now UPI reports that Willie Burton has quit the Heat to go seek treatment
>for "severe depression."
>
>Gee, these NBA players, their life sucks so hard.  Maybe they should
>come to grad school and taste the joys of well-compensated, care-free
>existence.
>
Yoo-hoo. Real world. Clinical Depression is a chemical condition
and an extremely serious one. It doesn't check your bank balance
before settling in. 

-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>  
You know, there's many a damned fool woulda swallered that.
From: oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Warriors
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:16:45 GMT
	<1992Apr14.171041.14282@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr14.171041.14282@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) wrote:
> Didn't think so.  Now, how about them Jazz .  In winning 3 out of 4
> this season, they blew you guys away by 22, 27 and 39 points.  Aren't
> you worried?  <NO! NO! NO!>

I haven't seen any of the Jazz-Warriors games this year, but, on the other
hand (geez, I can't believe I'm going to praise Nelson here), the Jazz are
still the most limited and predicatable of the upper-echelon teams.
They're always going to do the same thing every game.  Sounds to me like a
team made-to-order for a Don Nelson over a seven-game series.
--
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	oliver@athena.mit.edu /	joliver@hstbme.mit.edu
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From: 11mwarner@galluj
Subject: Re: Michael Williams
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:39:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.140503.16306@ncsu.edu>, pabouki@eos.ncsu.edu (PERRY ANDREW BOUKIDIS) writes:
> 
> 
> 	In the coming NBA draft the Hornets are going to try to shore up
> some areas on their roster.  Particularly at the 5 and 1.  It really is
> a shame the Hornets let Michael Williams slip right through their hands.  He
> would be a perfect fit in Bristow's system.  Williams is making a move on the
> NBA Defensive Player OTY.  He really has established himself in Indiana.
> Imagine Mugsy Bogues and Williams combining at PG on the same team!  That
> would be an opposing PG's worst nightmare.  The Hornets really kicked
> themselves on the shin with that blunder.
> 
> 
>                                  LJ: ROTY... NBA 2nd Team,
> 
>                                            Perry Boukidis

	Forgetting to mention the Pistons?  He played with them his rookie 
	year but was on the end of the bench behind Zeke, Joe D. and the 
	Microwave.  That was a true mistake because I thought he was a good
	player for the limited minutes he saw.

						PSYCHO

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From: edmunds@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Warriors (Warriors/Jazz)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:05:40 GMT
Organization: LLNL_LIS


  alanj@cc.usu.edu writes:
 
|I guess is what I am saying is that the Jazz are changing.  Granted in the past
|they have been very predictable and there is still that predictable component
|on the team but half of the roster (6 of the 12 players) are new since the last
|time they were swept in the playoffs.  If they get the Clippers in the first
|round they may get swept again.  But then, in the West, anyone could exit
|early.  But watch for the Jazz.  They may not be as predictable as you predict.

  The homecourt advantage seems to mean more to Utah than any other team.
I've seen the Jazz demolish the Warriors three times this year, twice in
Utah, and the Warriors are a very respectable road team (24-17).  Why
is it that Utah is so tough at home and so mediocre on the road (as of a 
days ago, they were 35-4 at home, 17-23 on the road)?  Is it a few specific
players, the officiating, the altitude, or what?

-- Dave Edmunds
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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: BOXSCORE:  lal @ sea
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:51:17 GMT



lal 88, sea 117   07apr92

COMMENT:  Seattle's two technicals were for illegald defense
MISSING:  offensive rebounds

lal (40-35)      min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
campbell,elden    38    6  12   0  0   4  7   - 14   1   3  0  2  1  0  0   16
green,a.c.        35    4   6   0  0   6  6   -  7   0   1  1  1  1  0  0   14
divac,vlade       28    3   5   0  0   2  2   -  3   1   3  0  5  0  0  0    8
scott,byron       30    4   7   2  3   4  4   -  1   3   0  2  2  0  0  0   14
threatt,sedale    40    6  18   0  1   6  7   -  3   5   3  4  3  0  0  0   18
teagle,terry      29    3  11   0  0   2  2   0  0   1   4  1  3  0  0  0    8
smith,tony        25    1   8   0  1   3  6   -  2   1   5  3  0  0  0  0    5
robinson,cliff     4    0   2   0  0   1  2   -  2   0   0  0  1  0  0  0    1
sparrow,rory       3    0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0   0  0  0  0  0  0    0
brown,chucky       3    0   2   0  0   0  0   -  1   0   0  0  0  0  0  0    0
haley,jack         3    1   2   0  0   2  2   -  2   0   0  0  1  0  0  0    4
owens,keith        2    0   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   0   1  0  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lal totals       240   28  74   2  5  30 38   0 35  12  20 11 18  2  0  0   88
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .378   .400   .789       team rebs  7
bench technicals: MDunleavy,MDunleavy

sea (44-32)	 min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
mckey,derrick     32    7  11   0  1   2  2   -  8   3   3  1  2  0  0  0   16
mcmillan,nate     33    2   5   1  2   0  2   -  2   6   2  1  1  0  0  0    5
cage,michael      31    6  10   0  0   0  0   -  9   0   2  3  1  1  0  0   12
payton,gary       26    8  12   0  1   2  2   -  3   7   4  3  3  0  0  0   18
pierce,ricky      28    7  15   0  0   2  2   -  3   6   3  1  2  0  0  0   16
kemp,shawn        31    4   7   0  0   6  8   - 12   0   2  2  3  3  0  0   14
johnson,eddie     22    6   9   0  0   6  6   -  4   1   2  0  1  0  0  0   18
barros,dana       14    1   6   1  4   0  0   -  2   3   1  0  0  0  0  0    3
brown,tony        11    2   4   0  0   0  0   -  1   0   2  2  0  0  0  0    4
conlon,marty       4    2   4   0  0   1  2   -  6   0   2  0  0  0  0  0    5
kofoed,bart        4    2   2   0  0   2  2   0  0   0   0  0  1  0  0  0    6
king,rich          4    0   4   0  0   0  0   0  0   0   1  0  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
sea totals       240   47  89   2  8  21 26   0 50  26  24 13 14  4  0  0  117
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .528   .250   .808       team rebs  9
procedure technicals 2

lal   20  25  23  20  -   88
sea   27  24  26  40  -  117

attendance 12335, time 2:04, officials: JForte,DCrawford,DStafford
From: MED40009@NUSVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Rodman - What's with his shorts?
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:04:28 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 13:36:30 SST

What is wrong with Rodman's shorts anyhow?  As long as they keep him
decently covered when he's banging the boards, who cares?  (haha)

As for Bill "Me A Thug?" Laimbeer, besides considering plumbing, he should
also consider creating computer games.  Did anyone see "Combat Basketball",
this computer game introduced sometime July 91, where players battle it
out on court in this futuristic armour?  Naturally, they got ol' Bill to
dress up in armour to promote it...

Guess ol' Bill was cheaper than hiring Karl "Whaddya mean I fouled him?!"
Malone...

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From: glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan)
Subject: Re: Jordan playing Baseball?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:38:25 GMT

billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Apr3.224410.16430@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Geoffrey James Hawkins) writes:

>   Let's hope Jordan faces a mean Rob Dibble his first time at the plate.
>   That would make all the bandwagone fans upset (WAAAAAH)

>No it wouldn't.  They all ignored it when Laimbeer smoked Michael in golf
>last year.  You don't hear much talk about MJ on the pga tour anymore,
>though.   His fans still *know* that he is the best golfer in the nba.

>Bill
>--
>-------------------------------
>	Bill Mangione-Smith
>	billms@eecs.umich.eduA


Jordan may be the best golfer in the NBA, but he's definitely the worst
at gambling at golf!!!!!

Gary Blickhan

(I hope Jordan plays with the White Sox.  He'll get hurt or bat worse than
Deion Sanders.  At least Sanders can run...)
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bulls Yea Pistons No....NOT!
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:14:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsk.1992Apr6.221439.26273
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr6.213106.26887@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> tblackma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom Blackman) writes:
>>Da Bulls choked against a Birdless Celtic team, didn't they?!
>Yep, they lost, but who cares?  DA BULLS won the division title anyway.

Of course we do. We didn't say it, but we all know the significance of
this loss:
                     W    L
   Chicago          61   14
                         ^^
This is our scariest moment since Dr. J nailed a 3-point buzzer beater
that beat the Celtics in the next to last Sunday in 1986. 

I am sure you know what significance I am talking about.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Pistons over Spurs 107-103....
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:15:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Apr15.151540.5329
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <kum4mpINN6qr@earth.cs.utexas.edu> wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.040110.7770@rice.edu> tomscud@owlnet.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder) writes:
>|
>|>Article 12506 (158 more) in rec.sport.basketball.pro:
>|>From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
>|>      The trouble is that Rodman played at Southeastern Oklahoma,
>|>an NAIA school.  He may have numerically led the country is scoring and
>|>rebounding, but I believe that the only person in *NCAA* history to
>|>lead the country in scoring and rebounding was...(Sonics fans know this)...
>|>Xavier McDaniel.
>|*BZZZZZZT!* actually, I believe that Hank Gathers also did this his junior
>|year at Loyola Marymount.
>|
>Didn't Chuck Person lead the nation in scoring and rebounding?  Also, what
>about Terry Catledge?
>
>Rick

Person didn't even come close at either.  His best was only 22ppg and he
never even surpassed 9 rebounds per game.    As for Catledge, he was better
at both scoring and rebounds, but I don't think he lead the nation..


-- 
David T. Meeks                    ||" Strange how laughter looks like crying
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From: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Draft Question. . .
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:32:39 GMT
Reply-To: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University

When is it?

--Brent

.sig?  I don't need no stinkin' .sig!
From: wp01jst1@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (John Tomas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Triangle offense
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:48:17 GMT


suggest that you get ahold of a copy of the book.  The library here
had it and I read it.  Much of the book is taken up with the mechanics
of coaching for, I rather think, new coaches.  The basis of the book
is that the team creates a strong-side triangle with the guard,
forward and post man.  This is supposed to create maximum angles for
the entry pass.  Once that is established there are a number of 
not exactly plays but tendencies you can run depending on the skills of your 
players.  There is a section on footwork which I found fascinating
and also stuff on passes.  It's not exactly complex, but it is difficult
to describe quickly.
From: h0j1297@rigel.tamu.edu (BURT J.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Another Bird man
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:38:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rigel.14APR199215381347
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <708@hsdndev.UUCP>, nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes...
>In article <13APR199217293991@rigel.tamu.edu> h0j1297@rigel.tamu.edu (BURT J.) writes:
>>Heck yeah!
>>The Celtics are going to Punish Person's Pacers!
>>                         Trash Jordan's Cows
>>                         Rip Daugherty's Cavs
>>                    and  Destroy Hardaway's Warriors!
>>Go Celtics!
>Bahhhahaha. There are jokers everywhere. I thought I was the only one.

We'll see who gets the last laugh.  The fact is that the Celtics are the 
hottest team in the NBA right now.  Lewis was just named player of the Week.
Bird and Brown are out and look at what they are doing.  Totally demolishing 
the league!  Everyone has their hopes set on the Bandwagon Cows but the Celtics 
will prevail!  They've beaten everyone in their league and they'll continue 
too!  The Celtics are the best team in the world.  Anything that comes their 
way they will Rip Apart.  Too bad cows.  

Celtics will Prevail!
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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: Re: Oh that Larry Bird
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 19:31:10 GMT

In article <ku8mf8INN5k7@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> schulman@hydra2b.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN) writes:
>>>Drafted 1st round 6th pick 1978, staying in college, probably wouldve been
>>>the first pick in '79.
>>You mean that the Lakers would have taken Bird instead of Magic?
>
>>I doubt it.
>>--Gidi
>I think there is a very good chance.  But as anyone should admit, either one
>would have been a great choice, Bird being a super forward, and Johnson a 
>guard.  But as with anything else, it depends on what the franchise needs,
>did the lakers need a super forward?
>Neil

the lakers already had a fine point guard in Norm Nixon.  they did NOT have
james worthy at forward yet.  although, as gidi points out in a following post,
the lakers PROBABLY still would have gone with Magic.  i think at the time
the scouts new much more about bird than earvin and it is possible that the
lakers would have gone with bird....and if they did, they may have still won
5 or so titles.  the celts, however, in 78, would've gone with Who? Corzine?
acckkk.  and the JBCarroll fiasco trade may not have happened either...so if
you're a laker fan looking at the Big Picture, it may have hurt Boston worse
than any slight harm to the laker chances.  then you might see the Big Score
be 11-13 instead of 11-16.  who knows.  i think magic then would go to some
other team (not boston-  who had #2?) and the USSR would still be here and
somebody named George Bush would be President and other weird stuff...?????

- nate
From: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bird Draft
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:07:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
Distribution: world
Reply-To: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra3f.cs.utk.edu

>>>Drafted 1st round 6th pick 1978, staying in college, probably wouldve been
>>>the first pick in '79.
>>You mean that the Lakers would have taken Bird instead of Magic?
>
>>I doubt it.
>>--Gidi
>I think there is a very good chance.  But as anyone should admit, either one
>would have been a great choice, Bird being a super forward, and Johnson a 
>guard.  But as with anything else, it depends on what the franchise needs,
>did the lakers need a super forward?
>Neil

the lakers already had a fine point guard in Norm Nixon.  they did NOT have
james worthy at forward yet.  although, as gidi points out in a following post,
the lakers PROBABLY still would have gone with Magic.  i think at the time
the scouts new much more about bird than earvin and it is possible that the
lakers would have gone with bird....and if they did, they may have still won
5 or so titles.  the celts, however, in 78, would've gone with Who? Corzine?
acckkk.  and the JBCarroll fiasco trade may not have happened either...so if
you're a laker fan looking at the Big Picture, it may have hurt Boston worse
than any slight harm to the laker chances.  then you might see the Big Score
be 11-13 instead of 11-16.  who knows.  i think magic then would go to some
other team (not boston-  who had #2?) and the USSR would still be here and
somebody named George Bush would be President and other weird stuff...?????

- nate

***************************
Finally, a non-biased look at the draft.  Who knows what would've happened if Boston got Corzine, and Lakers got sydney moncrief?  Maybe the Spurs or someone would have dominated the eighties?  All I ever said, though, was that a franchise usually gets a player it needs, or a player they intend to rade for what they need?  After all, it makes no sense to have 5 guards on the floor for 48 minutes...

Neil
From: koswatta@bgsu.edu (Sunil Koswatta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: EC semi finals
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:01:53 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.


When you see quotes such as "down such an such... go C...",
"... Legend is back.  Here we go", "such and such is the
team to beat the ...s", time has arrived to ask the following
Question.

Can Pistons take Bulls beyond 4 games in the Eastern Conference
semi finals before bowing out?
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Laker Injuries
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:07:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.184648.12540@talon.ucs.orst.edu>, navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre -- Botany and Plant Pathology) writes:
> 
> Gidi take a hike.
> [...lots of blah blah bl;ah deleted..] 

> Where is this franchise going? They have serious problems. What is one instant
> cure-Shaq. How else are they going to turn things around?-in time over several
> years.
> 
> Roy


Shaq is NOT the instant cure you think he is. The Lakers need
GUARDS. The #1 priority is a PG, enabling them to move Threatt to 
shooting guard. Scott's productivity has deteriorated in the past 3
years. It is good to have a great center, but other priorities are
more important. Divac is good enuf to carry them to the
championship.

On the matter of making-the-playoff vs getting-into-lottery, IMO
their first goal should be to make the playoffs. The team goes out there
to win games, not to conspire to get a good draft pick. Anyway,
the way they played against the Sonics, the lottery may yet be their
fate. O how important that win in Houston was!!



__________________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                         |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@bhaskara.ucsd.edu |
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From: schulman@hydra2b.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: I just don't like the Bullsh__
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:38:54 GMT
Reply-To: schulman@hydra2b.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
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In article <1992Apr8.082342.1915@inland.com>, bloom@inland.com writes:
> ... Phil 
> Jackson's strategy has been clearly stated in the newspapers.   With 
> nothing at stake, he is giving the bench much more playing time to 
> develop their confidence for the playoffs and is trying to get a lot 
> of rest for the starting 5 so they can build to another peak in the 
> playoffs.


Let's see, in their loss to Boston last Sunday:

	Pippen played 43 min compared to his 38.8 Min/g average
	Jordan 40 min, compared to 39.1 min/game
	Grant 38 min, 35.6 min/g
	Cartwright 25 min, 23.4 min/g
	Paxson 25 min, 24.6 min/g

Yup, that's it! That the reason for the loss! Resting those starters! Thanks
for clearing that up for us un-informed non-Bulls fans! :-)


-- 
!	Jim  Halpin
!	halpin@turkey.sw.stratus.com
!	Vote for the 90's Elvis, he's still out there somewhere! :-)
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All right!  another Bulls-hater!  I'm sick and tired of hearing about how high
and mighty the bulls and jordan are!  Even though I live in the south east, 
at least I can admire a basketball star who never had questions of gambling,
infedelity, AIDS, depression, greediness, and that's Larry Bird, probably
still one of the hardest workers in the NBA!

Neil