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From: ashley@osc.edu (Ashley Burns)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Last week was certainly eventful!
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:40:03 GMT
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center

In article <day_kevran-290992162118@130.252.108.211> day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day ) writes:
>Then this Saturday, I had to pleasure of spending the afternoon
>in Good Sam's LDR room with false labor (unrelated to the 
>accident).  I had contractions 5 minutes apart for 2 hours,
>then 4 minutes apart for an hour or so.  I was 3CM dialated.
>The doctor decided to try to hydrate me just in case it wasn't
>the real thing.  Two 500cc bags later, they sent me home!
>
>labor, I have a few things to discuss with my doctor for the
>real day - like, I don't want to stay hooked up to the monitor
>the whole time, I want to walk around (they were going to 
>keep me there until I delivered!); I want
>more than just ice chips for the duration;  I don't want an
>IV unless I'm dehydrated (which I was Sat.).  This is in 
>addition to all my other demands ;-)!

After a couple hours of my labor (I was in the hospital because my water 
broke well before labor started--once there, I exercised myself into 
labor) the doctor put on an IV to slow things down a bit. The baby's
heartbeat had not been getting a chance to restabilize after each 
contraction because I was having back-to-back contractions. I had had my 
customary two quarts of water that day, so I don't think I was 
dehydrated, but who knows? 

Does anyone know what introducing an IV does, exactly, to slow/stop labor? 

After labor they kept the IV in because I had a temperature (as did
my son, also on an IV for his first few hours). I wasn't too happy 
about this because I bloated even worse than before. My mother, coming
into my post-partem room in happy tears, didn't recognize me at first
glance. My face, arms, and legs were huge. My eyes were so puffy that 
I looked like I'd been crying for a week.

--Ashley Burns, ashley@osc.edu
From: cah@pdx.csd.mot.com (Chris Huey)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:30:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxvme.1384
Organization: Motorola CSD, Beaverton, OR
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hugh Osborne (hugh@sci.kun.nl) wrote:
: Can't resist...
: 
: When I was a child my dentist was "Dr. Kindness".  My optician was 
: "I. Straine".
: 
: In the town where I now live there is a dentist called "Dr. Auw".
: --

OK.  I'll add my $.02

I had a friend in high school named Cameron Wiggely.  She married another
friend of mine named Jeff Cameron.  So, of course, her married name was ...

Then, there was my dentist in Denver - his name was Dr. Sohr!

-- 
Chris Huey                             Motorola Inc., Computer Systems Division
cah@pdx.csd.mot.com                                                            
Voice: (503) 644-4346                  ... uunet!apple!motcsd!mcspdx!cah
"In the beginning was the word, 2 bytes long, aligned on an even boundary."
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: Female "Circumcision"
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:30:29 GMT

Nadja Adolf (nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM) wrote:
: 
: Clitoridectomy and infibulation are practiced in Egypt. The Guidebook
: explains that, as do other resources.
: 
: BTW George, is infibulation practiced in Singapore?
: 
: 
: -- 
: The Earth Pig Bourne....
: 
: nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
: nadja@weitek.com

no ... Never heard of such practice in Singapore.
The Muslim population here is about 20% of the whole population ...

Btw Nadja, is infibulation is practiced in ur area ?

Good Day !


George ( going for the Kill ! )
 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: pahoyt@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Pat Hoyt)
Subject: Helping a Preschooler Learn to Swim
Keywords: learning to swim, preschooler, "by myself"
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:25:48 GMT





I'm asking for advice on helping an almost 4 yr. old learn to
swim by himself. We were at the local-Tuesday-suppertime-Y-dropin
last night where we have 1/2 hour in the pool. The time is totally
unstructured and the kids can do what they want. For the first time
ever, Devin was interested in swimming by himself - "Don't touch me, 
I want to do it myself" - but hasn't the least clue how to stay afloat.
Last night there were some PFD's by the side of the pool (left over 
from the class before us). Devin put one on (another first) and had
a great time jumping in the water and "swimming" back to the pool
edge. Does anyone have any ideas that we can use on our Tuesdays
in the pool to help Devin? I guess I should add that the shallow end
of the pool is over Devin's head.

Thanks in advance.
Pat
pahoyt@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: How to get your child take medicine?
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:20:04 GMT

I used to joke that my son must have listened to me as a baby
because I used to whisper to him "Don't get sick until you can
tell me where it hurts".  He had his first cold/ear infection
at 3.5 years of age.  (and then made up for lost time with about
6 infections each winter for the next two years!).

BUT, he was the master of hating to take liquid medicine, of all
types.  With some medicines, the better tasting ones, it was better
than others.  But sometime he *had* to take one of the vile ones, no
matter what.  What worked very well for him was to give him a small
glass of water.  He would take a sip and then follow it with water (to
get rid of the bad taste).  It took up to 5 minutes sometimes to get 2
teaspoons in him, but eventually they got there.  Now, having said
that, check with your pharmacist to be sure that following water with
the particular medicine is ok.  It was ok for all of ours except once.
At 5.5 he now will just take a sip of water after downing all the
medicine, but for about 1.5 years the sip of medicine, sip of water was
the only way to get it in him without a major battle that left both
sides miserable and exhausted.


Good luck!
---
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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Toys
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:20:52 GMT

>>(Reid Kneeland) writes:
>>
>>We're obviously of different generations, since I remember when his
>>brother David, of the Partridge Family,  was a teen heart-throb around
>>1970.  He filled the void left by Davey Jones when NBC cancelled The
>>Monkees in 1968.  Ah the good old days.

Hey, watch how you refer to my first love!  :-)  He *never* spelled it
"Davey".  I know.  16 Magazine said so.  It was Davy Jones, same as
Davy Jones' Locker at the bottom of the sea where dead pirates go.  For
a kick, I used to look up "Davy Jones" in the school's huge library
dictionary.  Yeah, the good old days.  :-)

-Nance, Former President of the Davy Jones Fan Club of Berwyn, Illinois.

-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
                            (_) \(_)
From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How to get daughter more career-minded?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:35:28 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
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Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Sep28.160918.12999@engage.pko.dec.com>, pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius) writes:
|> We have a 4 years old daughter who is really bright...[much omitted]
|> 
|> Then, a few weeks ago, I took her to the doctor for her regular
|> checkup.  On our way back, I asked her: "Do you want to be a
|> doctor when you grow up?"  Her answer shocked me.  "No," she said
|> "I want to get married." ....[much omitted]
|> 
|> Any suggestion for us to turn the things around?  

Forget it. Just take a deep breath and repeat to yourself, "It's 
age-appropriate."

When I was five, I remember trying to decide whether I should be a 
mommy or a nurse or a teacher when I grew up. My mother was surprised 
that I didn't even consider becoming a doctor--after all, my own 
pediatrician, a wonderful person, was a woman. These were the only
choices, though, in the limited world of a five-year-old. So what 
happened? I ended up with a PhD in biology.

Conclusion: she's not really making her life plans, she's just getting
into sexual stereotypes, very important for little children to have, 
though very important to overcome--in other contexts.

Go ahead and expose her to appropriate role models, etc., as this will 
be important for her in the long run, but don't worry if you don't see 
any obvious effect from this in the next year ot two.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer)
Subject: Re: Remote (Taxpayer) Wallets vs. the Ovarian Nurturer
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 00:37:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.163513.8959@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> campbellw@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bill at Allen-Bradley in Cleveland) writes:
>Hi,
>	My name is Bill and I'm for the most part just a lurker on
>this net. I've been following this thread since it started with
>interest. I am NCP of two beautiful children ages 11 and 13. I pay
>a grand a month in support. For the most part, I really don't have
>trouble with the fact that I give up alot financially for my kids
>(If they lived with me, I would be doing the same). The problem that
>I have with the situation is that my children don't see me handing
>out the money to my ex for them. The money that they get from their
>mom "mostly" comes from me. I find some comfort in hoping that someday
>they will realize how important they are to me and that I am very
>interested in their well being. I get visitation every other weekend
>and Tuesdays for dinner. I have tried on occasion to explain the
>child support situation to them so that they would understand, but
>there has been several times that my daughter has said "It's the law."
>
>Ouch!
>
>True, but....
>
>oh well, good thread.
>
>thanks for listening,
>
Bill, as the adult child of divorced parents (they split when I was one) I
can assure you that your children WILL notice as they get older.  My father
never once missed a visitation with us.  He was never late with his child
support payments.  He additionally paid for summer camp, braces, and random
extra curricular activities my mother couldn't afford.  While I didn't know
enough about the world at large at the time I was a child to appreciate this,
as an adult I now hold him in the highest respect for doing his best to live
up to his responsibilities to us.  Especially in letting our mother raise us
in a religion he didn't believe in and supporting her in it.  For coming
to every school play, swim meet, etc. throughout my life.  For not just 
abandoning us when it would have been convenient for him to do so.

Your daughters will grow up and learn about the world.  And when they do, your
example will be one they admire and aspire to.  You are being the best role
model you can for your children.  I commend you. 





-- 
Judy Leedom Tyrer

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"	- William Blake
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Last week was certainly eventful!
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:33:40 GMT

>In article <day_kevran-290992162118@130.252.108.211>, day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day ) writes:
>|> The experience was good though.  Since I wasn't in actual
>|> labor, I have a few things to discuss with my doctor for the
>|> real day - 
>|> I want
>|> more than just ice chips for the duration;  
>|> 
>
Someone gave me some good advice the first time round - avoid eating
foods that makes you excessively thirsty, when you are near your due 
date. 

Laura Floom

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hirsch@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Bob Hirsch)
Subject: cute things they what-do-you-say
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:56:51 GMT

handle@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Handleton) writes:
>Taylor, 2-3/4 yrs (I've got a thing against decimal ages) "tooted" while
>playing in the family room. We had no visitors or such, but wanting
>him to develop good habits I asked him "What do you say?"
>	"Thank you!"

I answered the door on Halloween once to find a really tiny child who,
apparently overwhelmed by the whole process, just stared up at me for a
minute, then wordlessly held out her bag.

I dropped in the candy and the child now stared into the bag.
After a bit a maternal voice off to one side prompted "what do you say?"

(pause)  "Bye!"

Bob Hirsch -- Sterling Software -- NASA Ames Research Center
hirsch@arc.nasa.gov                Mail Stop 233-3
415/604-4807                       Moffett Field, CA 94035
**The preceding has been an opinion by a concerned citizen**
From: CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris Himes)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Another finger food idea
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:56:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92280.115645CLH7
Organization: Penn State University

Last night we had cheese tortellini with a little tomato sauce and Doug
loved them.  They are just about bite size, although I cut them in half at
first.  I've decided to keep some of the frozen ones handy for those nights
when he can't eat what we are having, or for lunches.  He would probably
like them just as well without the sauce, too.

This is not particularly creative, but I am always look for new things to
feed my "always room for more" son (btw, when does this famous 1- yr old
decrease in appetite occur???).  I had just never thought of this before,
since it is not something we have on a real regular basis (that will
change!).

Chris Himes
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: M17257@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: How to get daughter more career-minded?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:11:18 GMT

My how people get vehement about this subject (like a lot of others)!
 
Personally, my interpretation of the orig poster was they were just afraid
that their daughter wasn't seeing all the possibilities.  It hadn't
occurred to said poster that maybe the daughter couldn't see all the
possibilities, yet.
 
Don't press career stuff on any kid, no mattter  what age.  It never produces
positive results. Let the child be exposed to different environments and tell
them about what different people do.
 
At the museum, point out the tour guide, at the amusement park-ticket takers,
vendors, photographers, etc; at the grocery store-clerks, managers, butchers;
at the park-rangers, lawn maintenance, etc; at shopping malls-information
people, security, salespeople, managers, cleaners, landscapers.
 
Everywhere you go, there are people, and those people are doing different
jobs.  You need to stop and point out what jobs they are doing and if you
have time, maybe stop and talk with that person.  Find out what they do.
Sometimes you'll learn more than you knew before or more than you could have
told your child yourself.
 
I always wanted to know about more jobs than I had seen.  I wanted to be an
architect at one point, a stewardess, a writer( still working on that).
Just explain the people around you, if your child is going to be something
they need to know about the choices, school is only going to teach them the
obvious high-status or obvious low-status.  There are a lot of very important
occupations out there that they just never touch on.  Lack of time and all
that.
 
And please, people, don't attack someone when they post a legitimate question,
you'll scare them and others away.  That's why we're all here, to ask our dumb
questions.
 
Ellie Blackwell
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.consumers.house
From: mma@bellcore.com (Mary M. Lau)
Subject: Playground rubber mat?
Reply-To: mma@bellcore.com (Mary M. Lau)
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown NJ
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 13:18:14 GMT
Originator: mma@pegasus

I am looking for soft and durable to put under
my daughter's outdoor swing set.  I vaguely
remember someone posting a question on getting
the black rubber-like mats a while back but I 
don't recall seeing an answer.  Can someone
please post the information again?

I would be interested in other alternatives
(we had already eliminate using pebbles and 
sand).

Thanks,
Mary
-- 
---------------------------------------------------
Mary M. Lau
Bellcore 
MRE 2J-385     	      Email: mma@aries.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: M17257@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Cute kid story
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:22:41 GMT

Well, this is my first cute kid story to post, I never seem to have the time to
type them out.
 
The other day Stefan(15months) was standing in the kitchen watching Daddy empty
the dishwasher when Daddy noticed a peculiar odor emanating from his son.
Dad: Stefan do you have a messy diaper?  Do you need a new diaper?
Stefan: vigorous nodding of head
Stefan: turns and toddles to his room-Dad following
Stefan: reaches up to the ceiling, facing the diaper-changing table, with this
expression of 'well, aren't you going to pick me up?'
 
 
Story 2
Early morning, Stefan sitting on counter while Mom is tying his shoes.
Stefan reaches for bottle of medicine setting nearby.
Dad: "No, no, no, we don't want you to have that." (takes bottle & puts away)
Stefan: "Umph!" and turns head away with nose in the air
 
Where do they learn these things?
 
Ellie Blackwell
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Children's Career Choices (was Re: How to get daughter more career-minded)
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:36:57 GMT

My 5 year old son started on this topic within the last few months.
His current choice is, emphatically, to be a hero and a scientist "just
like Darkwing Duck".  He says he'll work as a scientist during the day
to earn money and be a hero at night.  Sleep?  No, a hero doesn't need
any sleep. :-)

I asked him once what he would invent as a scientist.  He said he wants
to invent space ships that people can keep in their garages so they can
go visit "alien worlds" whenever they want.  He also wants to fix the
space ship at Disneyland so that it can get to Mars without running
into those asteroids all the time! ("Mission To Mars" ride for those
familiar with Disneyland).

It will be fun keeping track of all these choices and see what he ends
up with!   I remember wanting to be a veterinarian for a long time up
until my cat was badly hurt (I was a junior in high school at the
time).  I didn't handle it well and decided that the career would be
too hard on me emotionally.  So I switched to computers! :-)

---
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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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From: day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day )
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:47:56 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.

I forgot one the other day - my husband has a very good friend 
named Dick Gentle!  Seriously, would you do that to a kid?

Kevran (mom to Jason - 2YO and ??? due in Oct.)
day_kevran@tandem.com
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med,chi.general
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:09:00 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Oct1.130847.7837@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>	"ADD" is a falacy.  The majority if not all kids/people
>	with this type of behaviour/attention "disorder" is due
>	to allergic/sensitivity reactions to various foods and
>	things in their environment.

Wrong.  The "Feingold Diet" could best be described as a placebo for
the parents.  I've never seen any convincing evidence presented that
ADD is due to any kind of allergy or "sensitivity".  Phrases like
like this are the stuff of quacks, anyway.

>	Prescribing something like Ritalin for "ADD", is like
>	taking "downers" to counteract the "uppers" you just took.

No, prescribing Ritalin does appear to help those kids who do in
fact have ADD.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: sdavis@khan.ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Susan Davis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Nostalgia Toys (was Creepy Crawlers...)
Date: 25 Sep 92 14:14:13 GMT
Reply-To: sdavis@khan.ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Susan Davis)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division


I remember *slime* and *pop-rocks* --- Maybe those are still around??
I would guess that due to my age, many of the toys we had are still
around.  (I am 25).

What are creepy crawlers by the way??

-- Susan Davis (Mommy to Ryan 17.5months and ?? -32weeks)
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From: peac@sybase.com (Jeff Peacock)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Nursing in the Night Blues or is it Time for Ceareal
Date: 25 Sep 92 15:32:16 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <9209221246.AA02360@panhed.psc.edu> grant@panhed.psc.edu (Shirl Grant) writes:
>
>
>I started giving him cereal because he got so excited when he watched
>daddy eat, actully squealed when the food disappeared into daddy's
>mouth.  

IMHO this is the best way to do it...let the baby tell you.  My wife couldn't
wait to start feeding Kiera "solid" food, and my MIL was/is constantly worrying 
that we aren't feeding her enough "meat".  The fact that breast milk and/or
formula is actually better for baby doesn't seem to make much impact on their
feelings.  But the fact is, Kiera knew when she was ready, and she let us know,
too.  Any efforts up to that point were basically a waste of time and made
both parties grumpy.
From: biddleco@mizar.usc.edu (Susan Biddlecomb)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Toys (was Creepy Crawlers...)
Date: 28 Sep 1992 09:53:33 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <2275@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM> sdavis@khan.ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Susan Davis) writes:
>
>I remember *slime* and *pop-rocks* --- Maybe those are still around??
>I would guess that due to my age, many of the toys we had are still
>around.  (I am 25).
>
>What are creepy crawlers by the way??
>

Pop-rocks are still around -- we used to give them to Angelica to distract
her while she was teething. Just a little bit on the tip of her tongue
would be enough to keep her occupied for 10-15 minutes trying to figure out
what was going on.

In retrospect, there may be a choking danger here, but they do dissolve pretty
quickly.

Susan