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From: bobs@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bob Sutton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: DSCH's String Quartets
Date: 23 Jan 1993 20:58:17 GMT
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In article <1993Jan19.012624.6555@news.yale.edu> kwok@radiant.eng.yale.edu writes:
>
>Anyone has any opionions on his piano concerto?

I assume you are refering to the TWO piano concerti.  The first one is pretty
good (and rather unique in the repertoire.)  The second concerto is good and
his its moments of brilliance of typical DS sentimentalism.  But the first
concerto is better.  IMHO, get a CD with *both* if you can find one.

-- 
Bob Sutton                        Love, most bitterly and fiercely oppresses
bobs@gnu.ai.mit.edu		  those who fight it than those who offer
al876@cleveland.freenet.edu       their servitude.    -- Ovid, "Amores". 
rsutton@eis.calstate.edu
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From: southerl@acs.ucalgary.ca (Ronald H. Southerland)
Subject: Re: DSCH's String Quartets
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 19:14:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

One recommendation I can pass along is the Brodsky Quartet -- I
have a Teldec CD (#9031-73108-2) of DSCH's string quartets nos.
6, 10 and 14 and it's superb! Very crisp (not romantic) rendering
of the pieces. There is at least one other CD by the same group
of other DSCH quartets. Back when I used to collect DSCH in
pre-CD days I listened to recordings by the Fitzwilliam String
Quartet on L'Oiseau-Lyre. I still have them but now they only
gather dust.

Ron Southerland
Linguistics
Calgary
From: dozonoff@bu.edu (david ozonoff)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: DSCH's String Quartets
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:04:58 GMT
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Bob Sutton (bobs@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan19.012624.6555@news.yale.edu> kwok@radiant.eng.yale.edu writes:
: >
: >Anyone has any opionions on his piano concerto?
: 
: I assume you are refering to the TWO piano concerti.  The first one is pretty
: good (and rather unique in the repertoire.)  The second concerto is good and
: his its moments of brilliance of typical DS sentimentalism.  But the first
: concerto is better.  IMHO, get a CD with *both* if you can find one.
: 
There is a MCA Classics Double Decker (often selling for under $10 for 2 discs)
that has both piano conerti on it as well as symphonies #1 and 5 and Age of Gold
Ballet Suite! Recordings are old, but sound is not bad, and performaces of conerti by Eugene List terrific.
--
Dave Ozonoff
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From: ns14@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Nathan Otto Siemers)
Subject: Re: Quartet #8 by Kronos :Good, Bad or Ugly?
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Cornell Univ.
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:33:10

>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:11:08 GMT, davidu@space.mit.edu (David T
 David> S Um) said: Nntp-Posting-Host: logos.mit.edu

 David> Hello,

 David> I am the DSCH novice who is soliciting recommendations from
 David> this newsgroup.  I have received many enthusiastic suggestions
 David> to listen to the 8th Quartet.  In fact, "enthusiastic" is
 David> perhaps the understatement of the year.  Anyway, if I may dare
 David> to utter taboo names, how is the Kronos Quartet version of the
 David> 8th, which I believe is on their "Black Angels" CD?  I ordered
 David> this disc through the mail just before I subscribed to a.f.s.,
 David> but it has not yet arrived.  Since I have been castigated for
 David> my choice of Karajan's performance of DSCH's 10th, I would
 David> like to make sure that the Kronos performance is orthodox with
 David> the veterans of this newsgroup.  So, as the title implies, is
 David> the Kronos good, bad or
 David> not-fit-to-be-wiped-off-with-toilet-paper?  And by the way, do




	The Kronos performance turned me from being simply interested
in them (kronos) to a full fledged fan.  Excellent!  Lacking in a few
of the more folksy, romantic parts of the quartet, but blistering,
bleak, and completely appropriate.

The entire album is fantastic, with the exception of the stupid dub of
Charles Ives, which only lasts a couple minutes.


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From: raeram@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.OZ.AU (Richard A. Muirden)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: DSCH's String Quartets
Date: 24 Jan 1993 05:36:21 GMT
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bobs@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bob Sutton) writes:

>In article <1993Jan19.012624.6555@news.yale.edu> kwok@radiant.eng.yale.edu writes:
>>
>>Anyone has any opionions on his piano concerto?

>I assume you are refering to the TWO piano concerti.  The first one is pretty
>good (and rather unique in the repertoire.)  The second concerto is good and
>his its moments of brilliance of typical DS sentimentalism.  But the first
>concerto is better.  IMHO, get a CD with *both* if you can find one.

As I said, avaliable on CBS Masterworks CD with Previn, p, and NYPO/Bernstein
ALONG with Rostropovich/Philadelphia PO/Ormandy with the great Cello Conerto
No. 1. This might be an ADD recording or even AAD (quite a hiss sometimes)
but it is a great, and quite inexpensive, CD for someone wanting to know
the piano concerti.


>-- 
>Bob Sutton                        Love, most bitterly and fiercely oppresses
>bobs@gnu.ai.mit.edu		  those who fight it than those who offer
>al876@cleveland.freenet.edu       their servitude.    -- Ovid, "Amores". 
>rsutton@eis.calstate.edu

-richard

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From: art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG LING LING)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: Quartet #8 by Kronos : Good, Bad or Ugly?
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:24:58 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
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I agree. It was totally awesome. They had such a great control as well
as the flexibility of tempo.

Definitely awesome.
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: Quartet #8 by Kronos :Good, Bad or Ugly?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 17:30:01 -0500
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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In article <1993Jan25.211108.4328@athena.mit.edu> davidu@space.mit.edu (David T S Um) writes:
}       Anyway, if I may dare to utter taboo names, how is the Kronos Quartet 
}version of the 8th, which I believe is on their "Black Angels" CD?  I ordered
}this disc through the mail just before I subscribed to a.f.s., but it has not
}yet arrived.  Since I have been castigated for my choice of Karajan's 
}performance of DSCH's 10th, I would like to make sure that the Kronos 
}performance is orthodox with the veterans of this newsgroup.  So, as the title 
}implies, is the Kronos good, bad or not-fit-to-be-wiped-off-with-toilet-paper?  
}And by the way, do not be concerned that I may have wasted any money, because 
}I ordered CD for Tallis's Spem in Alium transcription.

Well, I liked it, but then I bought the CD to hear Kronos perform a piano
quintet with Charles Ives (who sang!).

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
From: raeram@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.OZ.AU (Richard A. Muirden)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: DSCH's String Quartets
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:31:57 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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acid+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Colby) writes:

>In article <1jt9slINNemt@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> raeram@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.OZ.AU (Richard A. Muirden) writes:
>>As I said, avaliable on CBS Masterworks CD with Previn, p, and NYPO/Bernstein
>>ALONG with Rostropovich/Philadelphia PO/Ormandy with the great Cello Conerto
>>No. 1. This might be an ADD recording or even AAD (quite a hiss sometimes)
>>but it is a great, and quite inexpensive, CD for someone wanting to know
>>the piano concerti.

>Deleted from the catalog -- hopefully for a Sony reissue.

Well that's strange because I only got it about a month ago with a
special sticker on it saying how it was given best rating in the
Penguin guide to bargin compact discs or something....

but then again I'm in Australia... maybe that has something to do 
with it.

>-chris
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From: jcm2w@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (John Clarke Mccanless)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: Quartet #8 by Kronos :Good, Bad or Ugly?
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:28:53 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1993Jan25.211108.4328@athena.mit.edu> davidu@space.mit.edu (David T S Um) writes:

You can't go wrong with the Kronos Quartet 8th. :)


-- 
John C. McCanless				jcm2w@virginia.edu

"Genius!  Pure, unadulterated, GENIUS!!"  - Wile E. Coyote
From: kint@rio.engr.washington.edu (Rick Kint)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.shostakovich
Subject: Re: Piano Quintet - a good recording!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:02:57 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: world
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	I have most of the available recordings of the Piano Quintet:

	Borodin Quartet/Edlina: Angel/Melodiya LP (worn out)
	Borodin Trio: Chandos
	Fitzwilliam Quartet/Ashkenazy: London
	Borodin Quartet/Richter: Angel 
	Beaux Arts Trio: Philips

	I remember the first as the best, but it's been a while since I
listened to it, since it's quite scratchy.  Of the CDs, I like the
Borodin Trio and the Borodin Quartet versions best.

	The personnel overlap:  on the Borodin Quartet LP, the first
violinist is Rostislav Dubinsky and the pianist is Lyubova Edlina, both
of whom are now in the Borodin Trio.  The Borodin Quartet CD features 
the new, improved (sic) Borodin Quartet, with different violinists.

	The two are very different.  The Borodin Trio version is better
recorded and very impassioned.  Sometimes it goes over the top, but there
are moments of extreme beauty and Dubinsky gets most of the harmonics in
the fourth movement.  The Borodin Quartet CD version is cooler, but equally
intense in its way.  I think it's a live recording.  Richter nails the part.

	The others just don't do anything special for me.  I would have
thought that the Fitzwilliam Qt version would blow me away, but it didn't.
There is a low rumble in the recording which doesn't help.  The Beaux Arts
version left me wondering what was so great about the music.  There is
another Melodiya version which I only heard once, don't remember my reaction.

	The interesting thing about this piece is that I've never heard a
live performance of it which I really thought worked.  It doesn't seem that
hard technically, but is evidently not that easy to put across to an audience.

-- 
Rick Kint				UNIX Geek, College of Engineering
kint@engr.washington.edu		University of Washington, Seattle
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From: acid+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Colby)
Subject: Re: DSCH's String Quartets
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:25:03 GMT

In article <1jt9slINNemt@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> raeram@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.OZ.AU (Richard A. Muirden) writes:
>As I said, avaliable on CBS Masterworks CD with Previn, p, and NYPO/Bernstein
>ALONG with Rostropovich/Philadelphia PO/Ormandy with the great Cello Conerto
>No. 1. This might be an ADD recording or even AAD (quite a hiss sometimes)
>but it is a great, and quite inexpensive, CD for someone wanting to know
>the piano concerti.

Deleted from the catalog -- hopefully for a Sony reissue.

-chris
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From: davidu@space.mit.edu (David T S Um)
Subject: Quartet #8 by Kronos :Good, Bad or Ugly?
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:11:08 GMT

Hello,

	I am the DSCH novice who is soliciting recommendations from this 
newsgroup.  I have received many enthusiastic suggestions to listen to the
8th Quartet.  In fact, "enthusiastic" is perhaps the understatement of the
year.  Anyway, if I may dare to utter taboo names, how is the Kronos Quartet 
version of the 8th, which I believe is on their "Black Angels" CD?  I ordered
this disc through the mail just before I subscribed to a.f.s., but it has not
yet arrived.  Since I have been castigated for my choice of Karajan's 
performance of DSCH's 10th, I would like to make sure that the Kronos 
performance is orthodox with the veterans of this newsgroup.  So, as the title 
implies, is the Kronos good, bad or not-fit-to-be-wiped-off-with-toilet-paper?  
And by the way, do not be concerned that I may have wasted any money, because 
I ordered CD for Tallis's Spem in Alium transcription.
	Thanks again for all advice and wisdom.



						Sincerely,

						Dave
 


-- 
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davidu@Space.MIT.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cambridge MA ~~~~~~~~ Tel: (617) 253-9342
************** The heavens declare the glory of God; **************************
****************** and the firmament sheweth His handiwork! **** (Ps 19:1, KJV)








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From: parson_r@cubldr.colorado.edu (Robert Parson)
Subject: Re: Quartet #8 by Kronos : Good, Bad or Ugly?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:00:09 GMT

> In article <1993Jan25.211108.4328@athena.mit.edu> 
  davidu@space.mit.edu (David T S Um) writes:
> Since I have been castigated for my choice of Karajan's 
> performance of DSCH's 10th, I would like to make sure that the Kronos 
> performance is orthodox with the veterans of this newsgroup.  
> 
 I don't like Karajan in general, but his DSCH 10th isn't that bad. 
 There are certainly better recordings, but it's not the kind of thing
 that would turn off a new listener, for example. 

 Someone said here a while back that the 10th is in some way resilient - 
 it's hard to really screw it up. (Unlike, for example, the 4th or 8th.)
 That's my impression, I've never heard a recording of 10 that I really
 disliked.

 Robert
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From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: control
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:20:15 GMT

In article <1k93mdINN6ie@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>In article <1993Jan28.164836.4742@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>>All right. I see where we disagree. I don't see the actual restriction
>>as making one less than human but the legality of the restriction. I.e.
>>I am no more human when the government owns me but doesn't tell me what
>>to do (e.g. when I've registered for the draft, but not been drafted)
>>as when it is telling me what to do (ten-hut) . If you don't hold this
>>perspective, I can see how we would disagree.
>I'm not sure we do disagree.  I don't grant that the government has the
>right to 'own me' even if they don't do anything with that ownership,
>and I think the government is dead wrong to draft males to defend the 
>country.  So, I think we agree on that part.  The government doens't
>have any business 'owning' people.
Right, I meant about the implications of that wrt personhood.
-Ekr

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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Definition of racism
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:16:57 GMT

     "The modern definition of 'racism' is 'someone who is winning an argument 
with a liberal'"
                      -- Peter Brimelow, National Review (2/1/93)

|
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
     "It is a far, far better thing that I do than I have ever done.
      It is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known."
                          --Sydney Carton, "Tale of Two Cities"
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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: Stations won't air RL's show during day
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:43:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.154312.17401@news.nd.edu> fdeck@vyasa.helios.nd.edu (francis deck) writes:
>Our poor helpless RL can't get his TV show aired during the day.
>Boo Hoo Hoo.  The reason is that there is some big conspiracy
>to suppress his ideas.  Everyone is out to hurt poor little
>RL.  You can't see me right now, but big crocodile tears are
>running down my face.

If you're going to go off on a diatribe, you might want to get 
the facts. First, Rush has always stated that his TV show was originally
designed as a late-night show; since he tapes it during the afternoon, and
uplinks it at 8 p.m. EST, this sort of is the only way it will really work.

Even so, many, many stations air it during the day, albeit a day late. In 
fact, the Los Angeles affiliate has been airing the show at 3:30 p.m. 
consistently since Sept. 14th, when the show debuted. 

Thus, the question has to be asked - just what the heck are you talking
about?
-- 
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                         | to have economic legislation ready the day after the
Compuserve: 74076,1250   | Inauguration. Programmers rejoice because he now 
Internet: jrs@netcom.com | gives them an excuse to further slip their schedules.
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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: New Kervorkian/Death Update?
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:14:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1993Jan22.195712.29442@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.112214.5152@memstvx1.memst.edu> kebarnes@memstvx1.memst.e
>du writes:
>>Rush did a new "Dr. Kervorkian/Death Update" yesterday (1/21/93) with a
>>really cheesy folky new theme? Anybody heard of it?
>>Lyrics include:
>>"Well, I'm not afraid of dying..."
>>and chorus "it's cold, really? cold, way down there..."
>>singer backed by banjo and drums.
>>Any clues? Send 'em in to 'HIT' LIST H.Q...

>It is a song by Blood, Sweat and Tears.

The name of the song is "And When I Die."  Sung by Phil Driscoll, who also 
plays the trumpet.  Doc Severinson called Phil the worlds greatest trumpet 
player.

Ted

-- 
So the Maples formed a union, and demanded equal rights, "The Oaks are just 
too greedy.  We will make them give us light!"  Now there's no more Oak 
oppression, for they passed a noble law.  And the trees are all kept equal, 
by hatchet, axe and saw.     -  Rush, The Trees
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From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re:  What does sacrifice mean to Bill?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:48:18 PST

In <1993Jan21.153316.24755@athena.mit.edu>, John R Gonzalez writes:

>Perhaps higher taxes would be good.  If Bill raised them, it
>would probably screw up the economy, thus decreasing his chance
>of winning the election four years from now.  Not that I want
>the economy to go sour just as I enter the job market, but you
>got to find a silver lining in every cloud.

I fail to understand this line of thinking.  I have never been very receptive
to Democrats (not historically, anyway), and I rarely desire to see Democrats
win political elections.  However, if better times ahead mean eight years of
Clinton, then let it happen.  I may be rather conservative about most things,
and I may have a past history of supporting the Republicans or Libertarians,
but I'd rather be wrong about the guy and see the nation flourish then see
our nation go down the toilet just so I could say "I told you so."

Some of us think that the well-being of the nation is far more important than
political manuevering.  I don't expect the Clinton Administration to improve
things, but I'll be ecstatic if I'm wrong.  I'll take political ridicule in
exchange for the good of the nation if it comes down to that.


Tim Irvin
*****************************************************************************
From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush makes _truely_ substantive points w.r.t. Clinton
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:11:02 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group


Today I heard about 15 minutes of Rush's program...   He was really hitting
Clinton hard on some really substantive points:

1)  Clinton didn't go to the Oval Office until 13:30, whereas Bush had
	arrived at 07:30 on his first day.

2) While Bill and Hillary were standing in the reception line, someone
	told Hillary that people with tickets were being excluded, while 
	people without tickets were getting in.   She said "these people
	are being screwed"

	Rush spent a lot of time commenting on:

	a) a new low in language in the white house...    
		I wonder what the [expletive deleted] the fat 
		[expletive deleted] think that Richard [expletive deleted] 
		Nixon talked like?

	b) Hillary telling Bill what to do...
		If my wife heard of a problem, I would expect that she would
		feel free to make suggestions.  She is my closest and most
		trusted advisor, after all.

		When the "kiss and tell" books revealed that Nancy Reagan
		ran Ronny's Calendar, I wasn't upset at that concept...
		I was aghast that she used an astrologer to help her tho'.

		Maybe Rush never trusted his ex-wives that way...  Maybe thats
		why Mr "Family Values Limbaugh" doesn't have a family.

	c) Bill whispering to Hillary "I have to go to the bathroom"..
		Does Rush think that bladder functions cease when somebody is
		elected to the white house?

Rush is fishing for things to say...   and I'd say he "floundered" today.

Tom Perigrin
"Thought-Lite:  quick and easy ridicule and humor with no substance...
	If it's good enough for Rush, it's good enough for me"

(And a tip of the hat to Ted and Eric for suggesting my new motto)
From: popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The "Liberal Media" Criticizes Clinton
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 02:17:22 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX

Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> In article <C11BtJ.25I@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () says:
> 
> >Consider this.  The liberals know he's in now, and they
> >don't have to cover up for him.  They now realize they need to sell
> >subscriptions, and without the Republicans to push around, they are
> >forced to actually criticize Clinton a little.
> 
> Good! I like it! And all these liberal media types get these instructions
> via radios implanted in their brains by the Trilateral Commission (in
> cahoots with the Illuminati and the Postal Service, of course.)
> 
> --
> "Ah, I see the problem. There's a refrigerator on your leg."
> 
> [Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.ed
>    DISCLAIMER: Penn State University cares about my money, not my opinions.


The press criticizes cause that is their job.  Nothing like showing off 
to the readers and yer editor by writing a good crisp criticism.  

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