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From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: A2-Central uses cheap paper?!?!?!
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
	<BzHCD4.1Ax@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu>
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:01:21 GMT

In article <BzHCD4.1Ax@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes: 
>>>A2-Central?  A2-Central is great and all, but it's real small, and
>>>really looks more of a user group type newsletter.. (Cheap paper, etc)
>>> 
>>>I'm not ragging on it, Just wondering if the new one would be like
>>>this one.
>>
>>*Really*?!?!  What the heck has paper quality got to do with magazine
>>content quality?  Would you rather see A2-Central on nice, heavy stock
>>with colour photos and pay three times as much?  I just waded through
>>a bunch of replies to another one of your hypercritical messages about
>>Apple.  Give it a rest and stop bitching for a change.
>
>Three times as much?!?! It's already $3.95, for 8 pages on cheap
>paper, I mean, Computer Shopper costs $2.95, and it has 1000+ pages...
>I just didn't like A2-C too much, it didn't appeal to me.

Keep in mind that Computer Shopper gets hundreds of advertisers, while
A2-Central has never carried advertising (I subscribe to both, so I
know what I'm talking about).  Advertising allows Shopper to be such a
bloated magazine, yet still keep a reasonable sticker price.  When
readers have to foot the bill (as is the case with A2-Central), it's a
totally different ballgame.  If you want to spend $50-$100 a year for
an A2-Central printed in 4 process colors on heavy, glossy paper, go
ahead--make my day.  I'll keep buying the current issues at ~$30 per year.

>Also, I'm not bitching, I was just WONDERING, read my last post, and
>A2-C isn't by Apple, anyways.

Are you sure you're not?  That seems to be all you do in any of your
posts to this newsgroup.  Nothing is ever good enough for you.  If the
Apple II world isn't hot enough for you, why don't you go out, buy
yourself a 486DX2-66 EISA local-bus system, hobnob with the computing
elite, and forget that there is a newsgroup called comp.sys.apple2?
The rest of us will keep our Apple IIs--and have a blast with them.

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!           Ask me about SoftDAC--digital
(IIGS(  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis          audio for your Apple IIe/IIc!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: APPLE ][ TYPING PROGRAM
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:23:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst) 

>From: todd@zbt.sw.stratus.com (Todd Joseph)
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
>Subject: Apple ][ typing program
>Keywords: Apple ][, typing
>Message-ID: <1ggmkhINNgqi@transfer.stratus.com>
>Date: 14 Dec 92 01:05:21 GMT
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for a good typing program for an Apple ][.  I'd like to
>get shareware, but I'm willing to buy one if someone knows a good one.
>Thanks for any help.
>
>-Todd

   The only real live typing program that I know of is Mavis Beacon
Teaches Typing.  It came out in 1987 or 1988 or sometime back in the
Golden Ages when people actually released IIGS software.  You could
check Quality Computers, since they seem to stock up on out-of-print
IIGS software.

Paul Parkhurst

paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.UUCP
From: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Converting NeXT sound files to GS
Date: 14 Dec 1992 03:49:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.cc.utexas.edu

In article <gZyqVB2w165w@bluemoon.use.com> cmcurtin@bluemoon.use.com (Matthew Curtin) writes:
>jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:
>
>> I was wondering if there is anything out there (for on GS) that will
>> convert sound files for the NeXT to stanard binary raw files that
>> the GS can use?
>
>I'd also be interested in knowing if there is something that would convert 
>SunOS .au files to something usable to my GS...

NeXT and Sun sounds are usually both in the .au format. However, the
.au format supports a few different encodings, of which a Sun can only
play one (8-bit mu-law). I don't think there are any GS programs
currently available that convert from .au format, but supposedly, a
future AudioZap will do it :-).

Also, there's a program called 'sox' that'll convert from just about
any sound format to any other one...  Orca/C might be able to handle
it, and you could always compile it on a Unix machine if you have
access to one :) Sox is ftpable from
uhunix2.uhcc.hawaii.edu:/incoming/unix/sox5beta.tar.Z
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dstarr@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dwight Starr)
Subject: 5.0.4 system disk
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:12:19 GMT

A while back there was a post telling what could be removed from the System.disk
so you could put a program onto the disk and make it self booting.
I lost the post.  And guess what?  Now I have a use for such a disk.

Please don't tell me to buy a hard drive. I can't see spending as much for 
a hard-drive and controler as I did for the cpu.

Thanks in advance.

Dwight Starr


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: anyone modifying Zips?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:06:01 GMT

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>Wasn't there a couple of you trying to put Sanyos into Zips?  I'm interested in
>your results.  Please post or leave e-mail, thanks.

It worked, sort of. I am at 12MHz, but only with 32k, because at 64k I will
get stray pixels and my machine will crash most of the time sooner than later.
I'll put some extra Cs in there when I have time to see if that gets rid of
the problem.

Anyway, my 12/32 runs flawlessly and I am happy with it.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Subject: Re: Using fonts > 255 points
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:52:22 GMT
Organization: Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2

In article <9212130834.AA16574@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca>,
90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) wrote:
> 
> (why did you use 4.5 instead of 5 in your calculations
> above?)

In yet another piece of trivia encountered over the years, on a standard
IIgs RGB monitor with factory adjustments the 640-mode pixel dimensions
are roughly 80 DPI horizontally by 36 DPI vertically.

(80 * 4.5 = 360, and the StyleWriter has 360 DPI resolution) 

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jcarson@us.oracle.com (Jim Carson)
Subject: Need help with MICROSOFT SOFTCARD 
Followup-To: sender
Summary:  Help required in getting Microsoft Softcard to work
Reply-To: leasgeog@zygochloa.anu.edu.au
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:42:20 GMT
Expires: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 08:00:00 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

      I'm posting this for a friend who no longer has access to these news
 groups, so please send all reply directly to him, instead of posting them
 on the newsgroup.
 Thanks.
 -- Jim Carson
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

G'Day.

     After many years of successfully using a //c as an all-purpose home
computer, I picked up a second-hand ][e (unenhanced) at a computer auction
(at an amazingly cheap price, too).  However, it contained a number of cards
I am unfamiliar with (my previous contact with ][es was over six years ago,
and they always had Apple cards in them).

	One card that came with the ][e was a Microsoft Softcard, which I'm
assuming is a CP/M card (due to the Z-80 on it).  I tried booting with the
CP/AM disc that came with my //c's Z-Ram, and with a couple of CP/M utilities
discs I've had for a while (which work fine with the Z-Ram) with no luck.  I'd
like to be able to run Turbo Pascal on the ][e, so I need to get this CP/M
card up and running.  What do the 4 dip-switches do? (The 4 dip-switches are
currently all set in the off position.) Where can I get the appropriate software
to make this card work?  What slot should it be in (and does it care)? Any help
would be greatly appreciated.  I'm not able to access netnews, so please reply
to the e-mail address below.

Thanks.

Steve Leahy
c/- Dept. of Geography, ANU

leasgeog@zygochloa.anu.edu.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: IDE Drives
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:37:56 GMT

AKARPENKO@ALBION.BITNET writes:

>Can you enclose an IDE drive in the same way a SCSI drive is enclosed.  I
>am thinking about getting the Turbo IDE card.  Aren't enclosures like the
>ones from Tulin for both SCSI and IDE drives and will getting an IDE be more
>of a hassle than it is worth?  Thanks for any help.

A drive is a drive is a drive ;-) Well, most of the time. Your usual HD
case is made to fit 3.5" drives. The case does not care if that drive is
IDE or SCSI or MFM or whatever-you-have. The cheapest method to house a HD
is probably to stick your GS into a tower :)
Power connectors on those 3.5" HDs are normed (can't be, eh? Yup, once
in a while the clone manufacturers are able to display intelligence, too :),
so you can use a case with any brand of drive.

Hmm ... any more questions?

Soenke
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From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Using fonts > 255 points
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:39:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Dec11.061118.20335@vela.acs.oakland.edu>,
mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) wrote:
> 
> Since it is possible to take TrueType Font data and use Pointless to render
> a bitmap font, would it be possible to translate the TrueType data into a
> PICT?  If this was possible, we could generate a PICT of "A" and then scale
> it to any size.

You seem to be asking if a TrueType character could be turned into a PICT
that contains curves to describe the letter, so that when the picture is
scaled the curves are scaled also.

That answer is "no" -- QuickDraw doesn't have generic Bezier curve support
that TrueType or Type 1 requires.

PICTs scale text normally, but that's because QuickDraw Auxiliary calls
the Font Manager to ask for the right size font for the destination you're
drawing the picture to.  If you draw a picture of Times 10 "Hi there!" in
a rectangle twice as wide and twice as tall as the original, QuickDraw
asks for Times 20 when drawing the doubly-sized picture.  It doesn't
turn fonts into curves and scale those.

> 
> 	Just curious,
> 		...Mike
> -- 
> Michael Heintz, Oakland University - Rochester, Michigan
> InterNet:  mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu 
> BITNET:    mkheintz@oakland.BITNET

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Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: deskjet 500 & 500c drivers
Date: 18 Dec 1992 02:54:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


There are a lot of fonts that come with it as well as a few companies that make dri 
make drivers. Harmony comes to mind. On my //e I had to get the Epson Emulation
cartridge so it thinks it is an Imagewriter. It works real nice. At the time the      
the 500c was just coming out and it cost an arm and a leg and I really did not
need color at the time. One thing I like is it has both Serial and Parallel
ports so I can use my PC on it. I just got a PowerBook 100 and will look into
running that through the printer. 
.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:25:32 GMT

dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:

>Matt, it's over at Apple Computer for us Apple IIers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
>have great developers, but how is Apple gonna help us? 

  Why does Apple need to help us?  They're just dropping the IIgs from the
price due to lack of sales; they're not going to execute Dave, Matt, Andy, 
and Jim!!!!

>No way. Who's gonna
>revise our System Software? No one. 

  Procyon, an Apple II software company with extensive operating
system experience, is in great shape to do just that, as long as you're
willing to pay for it.

>The Apple IIgs will be dead by 1993, we
>know it, it's a confirmed rumor, unless Apple changes their mind. 

  "Confirmed rumor" is an oxymoron.  You probably mean, "fact".
Sure, the IIgs won't be on the price list.  They sold seven IIgs'
last month.  So tell me, what the heck is the difference in this
'support' you seek, between 7 machines in a month and zero?

>At Apple,
>we've reached the point of no return. 

  "At Apple, we've"? I didn't know you worked at Apple!?

>(Or atleast with the IIgs, what are
>they gonna do? Hold on to the IIe for a year and then drop it too?)

>What about "Apple II Forever", Matt? 

  Roy, I hardly think Matt is resonsible for removing the IIgs from
the price list.

>What about that? Lack of support is one
>thing, but having our forefathers lie to us is another.

  What support would you like?  I know Matt and others in DevSupport
give me great developer support.  Do you want Apple to port every
single Macintosh application to the IIgs? What would be the point?

>"It's only 6" long!" -- James L. Brookes         So any stupid comments me say
>                                                        are computer generated.
							^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Right. :)
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From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RamFAST & GS/OS cache
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:48:32 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <75464@apple.apple.COM>, dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) wrote:
> 
> 
> No need to get started on that, it *is* easy.  It's also as-designed.  We
> don't recommend doing DWrites to a volume that has open files.

True.  We've been telling folks for years (like you don't know this, but
the readers might not) to either:

1)  Make sure a volume has no open files before using DWrite, or
2)  Just use READ_BLOCK if you're going to manipulate ProDOS-specific
structures.

#2 is easier -- READ_BLOCK goes through the ProDOS FST and won't let you
write to a non-ProDOS disk, and since it goes through the FST it won't
work if files are open on the disk.

#1 is now easier than it was -- there was a bit added to the
characteristics
word from DInfo in 6.0 that's set if there are any open files on the
volume.  Beats a loop on GetRefInfo between $0001 and $FFFF.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
From: gasman@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: My wish list from programmers
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 20:16:53 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Things I would REALLY like to see for the Apple IIgs:
1) A .ZIP _packer_, not just an unpacker.
2) A .ARJ unpacker, and NO, I dont want one that uses a shell(Unarj).
3) A Soundsmith-to-MOD file changer.
4) A JPEG loader/compresser
5) One program that will unpack EVERYTHING(zip, arj, arc, gshk, shk, lha, 
lzh, zoo, etc)
Well, there you have it. My challenge to all you expert programmers. Oh, 
and the SS-to-MOD changer is possible, one would just have to ask which 
tracks to put in(making GS owners able to MAKE MOD FILES!)

Later,
        Gasman
P.S. Oh, I forgot one of the most important things: A General MIDI music 
player. Or if not that, a converter to .SEQ format.
P.P.S. No, TMM does not work on Gen MIDI.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: System 6.0 Reliability
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
	<1992Dec11.084439.20611@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:12:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.084439.20611@cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes:
>I think you have some something majorly wrong in your system....maybe you 
>shoudl try re-installing system 6.0.

I've done that several times already.

>I wrote soniqTracker which you mention, and I know of -NO- outstanding
>crash bugs in it. If you can -consistently- crash it let me know. I've
>never seen soniqTracker crash since about version .4. it's possible i have
>a rare strange bug in it, but i've never seen one occur. i've had a few
>reports quit crashes, but no way to verify it was actually soniqTracker
>and no way to reproduce it.

I'll keep an eye on it.  I like it a lot...maybe there's something
else in the system that it doesn't like.

>do you have any strange or suspecious INITs/DAs/CDEVs that could be causing
>you trouble?

Somebody suggested in email that I make sure the handicapped
accessories (CloseView, etc.) weren't installed.  To make sure, I ran
the "remove" scripts for all three.  Nothing's crashed since...but
I've mostly been running 8-bit apps for the past few hours (AppleWorks
3.0, Kermit, ProTERM).  I'll have to run a battery of GS tests
(including the soniqTracker jukebox) to see if the system is any more
stable.  System configuration is fairly close to stock...the only
add-ons so far are the Ack! NDA (Bill the Cat), the background-screen
INIT, and Pointless 2.0 (and it was crashing before Pointless was
installed--I just got Pointless yesterday).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:06:29 GMT

Steven Nelson (snelson@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu) wrote:

: Just to be picky (no flames please),
		   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's about all you're going to see!

:   --Steven Nelson         snelson@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu

Amrit Chauhan
achauhan@math.macalstr.edu




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From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Learn programming? (Was Re: My wish list from programmers)
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:57:13 GMT

ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:

>OK.  Here's one "always wanted to learn but never had the time, etc >etc" guy.

>What books are good?

  A good place to start is to buy the Apple //GS Toolbox references
(volumes 1-3) and the Apple //GS Programmers Guide, as these books are the
definite references on how to program the GS.  They're not perfect, but
they're pretty good.  Of course, if you haven't had the good fortune to
have these books thrown in with the purchase of your GS, it'll cost a
little bit of money to get them :-)

>What language?  Assembly?

  Depends what you're good at, really!  Seriously though, I would suggest C
(using the ORCA/C compiler).  It isn't a perfect version of C, but it's
pretty good.  Use assembly for the functions that require speed, then link
'em in with your C programs.
  Basically, what you want is the ORCA shell environment with the ORCA/C
compiler and ORCA/M assembler.  It's a very nice programming environment.

>What about actual source code examples? 

  Start off with Apple's Hodgepodge example programs (it comes with the
Apple //GS Programmers Guide, at least it used it).  I really don't know
how much source code is floating around the net.

>From what I can see, there's a very steep learning curve in the beginning,
>but once you are over it, you are over it.

  That's pretty much right.  The Apple //GS running in native mode is
totally unlike any other Apple //, and can be somewhat daunting to begin
with.  I spent a good couple of weeks figuring out how to write my first
desktop application, but once I got the hang of it, it was easy.

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