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From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Subject: Lodging in Orlando
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 03:40:36 GMT


I've got a question for all of you frequent WDW visitors.  I
found what appears to be a great deal on a motel in the 
Orlando area. It's called the "International Gateway Inn."  It's
located on American Way.  From the map it appears to be near 
International Drive, just off of I-4.

The deal is so good, that it almost appears to be too good to 
be true.  Here's my question:  Is anybody familiar with the 
International Gateway Inn?  Is it a dive?  Or is it actually a
pretty good place?

Having never been to Florida yet, I don't really know what kind
of a place this is.  I'm sure that it is not in the same league
as the Grand Floridian, Yacht Club, or even Embassy Suites, but
if it's clean, quiet, not run down and in a safe area, I'm 
happy with it.  

If anybody knows anything about the International Gateway Inn
I would appreciate hearing about it either posted or e-mailed to
me personally.  Either one is fine for me.

Russ
bd670@cleveland.freenet.edu
rdyreng@logdis1.oo.aflc.af.mil
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From: Dana Uehara <anash@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
Subject: Hawaii's Disney Afternoon (DA) schedule for Fall 1992 
Special-Note: all times are in HST... 
Organization: Toonaholics Anonymous, DA-Holics Anonymous 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:30:10 GMT

Just got a sneak preview into the time period of September 5-11 (via the TV
Guide's Hawaii edition).  Here's some info that *might* be of interest,
particularly for those who'd like to update their files:

The following info holds ONLY for 9/5 to 9/11, but it does indicate a trend
that'll probably hold for the upcoming season.

Weekday shows:  The DA will be split.  RR will be shown at 6:30 am and TS at
7 am.  DT gets a 2 pm slot, while DW moves to 2:30.  GT will air at 5 pm.

Friday, 9/11 at 7:30, the Saturday Preview will be shown (a sneak preview of
the Sat AM cartoons to be shown on ABC).

According to the TV Guide, no GT premiere movietoon is scheduled, which means
that if it *does* get shown, I will in all likelihood miss it.

Assuming that all of this info is accurate (remember, this is kinda like
looking 1.5 weeks into the future), this will mean the end of the DA on
KHNL-TV (but not necessarily the end of the DA shows themselves).

And DW's time slot is now 6 am as of this Saturday (Sept. 5).  "Beetlejuice"
has taken over the 6:30 am slot.  As for the other Sat AM cartoons, well...
since they premiere from 9/12 and the TV Guide only goes until 9/11...

p.s.  I have NOT seen any listings for Tiny Toons, so it's likely that KHNL
will either drop it from the program lineup or move it to weekends.


--
===== Dana Uehara [c/o <anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu> (Andrew Nash)] =====
"Wait!  Wait!  I'm allergic to lead!"			-- Baloo
From: vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Old vs New "Be Our Guest" tape?
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:32:36 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

With the legal problems of that song in Pinoccio (sp?), I wonder what is going
to happen with a re-release of it on LaserDisc and VHS.  And for that matter
how did they handle it in the theater?  Does the legal agreement only cover
the movie (and tapes and discs)?  It amazes me that Disney didnt have every-
thing worked out 50+ years ago when they released it originally.
 
(and by the way, what song/scene is it that they can't use?)
 
Brad
From: adf1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Old vs New "Be Our Guest" tape?
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:06:55 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

Please clarify something for me. I read a post recently about an old vs new "Be
Our Guest" song tape. Something about Pinocchio on the old one and Winnie the
Pooh on the new. I hope I have this right. The posting is no longer in the
newsgroup for me to read again and I wanted to find out about the tape I have.
Mine has Pinocchio pictured on the back. Is it the new one or old version? And
what was the lawsuit all about?  If someone remembers the posting (perhaps the
person who posted it) please repost so I get my facts straight. Also, will my
tape become a collector's item.
Also, has anyone seen the new Walt Disney Collection figurines yet? I saw a few
at a collectors shop recently. All they had left though were the mice that made
Cinderella's dress and a couple of animals from Bambi. The main figurines were
all sold out.  Can't wait for the rest of the collection to come out.

Carole Francis
From: steven@uts.amdahl.com (Steven Swinkels)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Old vs New "Be Our Guest" tape?
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:21:11 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In <19340@ector.cs.purdue.edu> bingle@cs.purdue.EDU (Richard Bingle) writes:

>In article <1992Aug23.210655.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> adf1@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
> Please clarify something for me. I read a post recently about an old vs new "Be
> Our Guest" song tape. Something about Pinocchio on the old one and Winnie the
> Pooh on the new. I hope I have this right. The posting is no longer in the
> newsgroup for me to read again and I wanted to find out about the tape I have.
> Mine has Pinocchio pictured on the back. Is it the new one or old version? And
> what was the lawsuit all about? ...

>I believe the ones with the song from Pinocchio are the "old" ones.
>It looks as if they just removed the one song from the tape (and
>didn't replace it with anything.  

I'm the lucky holder of an 'old' copy.  On that tape, the third song in is
"Little Wooden Head" from Pinnochio (with the wooden boy's picture on the
back of the jacket).  I believe the suit itself stems from constraints that
songs written for Disney by Irving Berlin only be released in conjunction with
a theatrical release (which is why none of my Disney songbooks/sheet music
have "wooden head" in 'em!)

I can't speak for whether or not the 'new' tape is just shorter, or if it
was replaced with another song.  The original post mentioned Winnie-the-Pooh,
but "Heffalumps and Woozles" was already on the 'old' tape.
-- 
Steven Swinkels                  steven@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com
Amdahl Corporation               [ decwrl | hplabs | ames ]!amdahl!steven
>>The opinions expressed herein are solely my own.<<
"Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug." - Dire Straits
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:26:39 EDT
From: Reid Woolery <WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Maps - Thank You

Thanks to all the people who responded to my query. I now have something new to
try and get my hands on and hang on my wall. Isn't life grand?

            -REID- ()_()
                    (_)
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The Disney Magic (was: Best Age For Kids)
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:54:14 GMT
Organization: Pomona College

In article <1992Aug25.152133.23355@pmafire.inel.gov>, geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) writes:
> 
> But a real blast when you see them taking it in.  Jonathan was so *cute*
> while we were riding It's a Small World.

If you're going to Disneyland or EuroDisney, watch the faces of the
children around you during the Main Street Electrical Parade, especially
in reaction to the snails right near the beginning.  I have actually
gone *just* to see that.  They joy that literally beams out of a child's
face when one of those snails runs right up to them, makes it's noises,
bobs it's head, then spins around wildly and streaks off is perhaps the
single best proof of the reality of Disney magic I've ever encountered.
I imagine that seeing it on the face of one's own children would be
even better.

SpectroMagic at Walt Disney World may have a similar effect, but not
having seen it yet I can't say.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: tanida@forseti.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: $11.99 for BatB video tape
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:14:09 GMT
Reply-To: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
In-reply-to: navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)

In article <94951@bu.edu>, navsaria@bass (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
>
>   Beauty and the Beast fans on a budget (i.e. poor college students like
>myself) may be interested in knowing that it is possible to get Beauty and
>the Beast on videotape for only...(drum roll)...$11.99!  How?  Here's how:

If you live near the Disney Store and have an MKC card:
     19.99  = Base price of the tape
    - 2.00  = 10% MKC discount
    ------
     17.99+tax = price you pay
    - 5.00  = Disney Store gift certificate (or a watch)
    - 5.00  = Nabisco rebate
    ------
      7.99(+tax on 17.99)  = Final price

These prices should be good for both B&tB and The Rescuers (through
Sept 15 or so).

This is, of course, assuming you already shop at the Disney Store and
eat Nabisco products.  :-)

-Tom
tanida@esosun.css.gov
From: jrjj@moscom.UUCP (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney alleges 'deception' in 'Beast' suit vs. GoodTimes
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:36:23 GMT
Reply-To: jrjj@moscom.UUCP (Jad Jordan)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <21106@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>The company is well within its rights, in my opinion, to
>release their tapes and I can't see any way of forcing them to say
>something on the order of "THIS IS NOT A DISNEY TAPE!!!" - that would
>be foolish. 
>So I guess what I believe it comes down to 
>is that it should be Disney's responsibility to deal with the threat
>with their dollars outside of court in the market place (again, this
>does not refer to the allegation that they put a character on the cover
>which resembles a disney character and does not appear in the film it
>simply refers to the Disney complaints about the general releasing of
>films at or around the time they are releasing their own version in the
>theaters.

Well, I agree with you. And Disney should by now realize a law suit of that
type would be very difficult to prove. But if I remember the original post
correctly, the law suit was not raised the last two times this other company
tried that strategy. The law suit was raised this time because they used a 
Belle-like character on the cover, when said character doesn't appear on the
tape. A good case for a law suit. 

Of course, I can't imagine anyone who would be stupid enough to think that  
these other tapes are the Disney version. Disney always makes sure its name
is all over any of its products. Hmmm. I wonder. Do these people who think
these other tapes are the Disney version think that Six-Flags is really
Disneyland?

      
      ()_()  Jad R. J. Jordan		"I hope we never lose sight of one 
       (_)   MOSCOM Corporation. 	 thing... That it all started with a
	     jrjj@moscom.com		 mouse."  - Walter E. Disney
						(the all-mighty creator) 
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From: japlady@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rebecca Radnor)
Subject: Re: Muppetvision 4-d
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:05:16 GMT

In article <10356@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> pepke@gw.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke) writes:
>Was it perhaps "Lydia the Tattooed Lady?"
>
>If so, it's an old Groucho Marx favorite.  I don't know the words, but 
>perhaps someone, upon seeing the title, just happens to have a file with 
>which to grace us.
>
>Eric Pepke                                    INTERNET: pepke@gw.scri.fsu.edu
>Supercomputer Computations Research Institute MFENET:   pepke@fsu
>Florida State University                      SPAN:     scri::pepke
>Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052                    BITNET:   pepke@fsu
>
>Disclaimer: My employers seldom even LISTEN to my opinions.

Lydia oh lydia oh have you met lydia, oh lydia the tattooed lady
when her muscles start relaxing up the hill comes andrew jackson.....

she has eyes that folkes adore so and a torsoe even more so


-- 
Rebecca Radnor                \\ I know everything,
NU Anthroplogy Department     \\ I know nothing
JAP= Jewish.American.Princess \\ I used to put sticks under the back porch 
     & Japan specialist	      \\      and wait for them to petrify.
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From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Old vs New "Be Our Guest" tape?
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:00:55 GMT

In article <19340@ector.cs.purdue.edu>, bingle@cs.purdue.EDU (Richard Bingle) writes:
> Anyway, I have access to about 4
> copies of the "old" one and am willing to pick them up and mail them
> to interested parties.  Is anyone interested in making it worth my
> time? How does $20 sound?

I was at a local Toy's R Us yesterday and counted 6 copies of the
old Be Our Guest tape, all priced at $9.99.  That plus tax and
postage would come out to considerably less than $20 a copy for me.
-- 
Stephanie da Silva                                    arielle@taronga.com
  "Isn't it romantic?  When roosters fall in love... they lose
                                     all reason...." -- Peepers the Mouse
From: jrjj@moscom.UUCP (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Television Academy moving to Dis-MGM STudios.
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:20:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

So.... I was watching the Emmys last night and I saw the new WDW ad. Did
anyone else think the castle looked like the Euro-Disneyland castle, being
pink and all? But I digress.

The Television Academy (or whatever name they use - you know, the emmy people)
announced that a branch of their museum is opening at the Studios sometime
this fall. (Or was it next fall?) Anyway, anybody else got some rumors of what
is going to be included? Where it's going to be located? Huh? Huh?

      
      ()_()  Jad R. J. Jordan		"I hope we never lose sight of one 
       (_)   MOSCOM Corporation. 	 thing... That it all started with a
	     jrjj@moscom.com		 mouse."  - Walter E. Disney
						(the all-mighty creator)
From: vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Minor releases,BatB Box,RR?
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:39:46 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

I just picked up some new special edition Cartoon Classics that just appeared
in local stores... It has a picture of Goofy on the front and has the 
equivalent of three of their VHS Cartoon Classic Tapes on one disc.

Brad
From: v053qhdh@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Aaron J Snyderman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Guides
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I still cling to the (possibly naive) belief that the best guide to WDW
is Steve Birnbaum's Official Guide to WDW.  It is very well written, easy to
read, has in depth descriptions of all the rides, shows and attractions, of
the other on-site features, of Orlando and other surrounding areas.  It is easy
to find things in, and it is updated yearly.  
	The one problem with this book is that, being an official guide, it
sees things through slightly rose colored glasses and does not prioritize
attractions and whatnot as to what is best (and what is worst).
	Being a Walt Disney World enthusiast myself, I have every edition since
1985.  I suggest picking yourself up a copy if you plan a trip there.  It is
very helpful.
From: pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu (Paul Fritschle)
Subject: Re: Disney alleges 'deception' in 'Beast' suit vs. GoodTimes
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:33:11 GMT

gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:

[details of suit deleted]

> I find it hard to believe that anyone would buy the GoodTimes video
>believing it was the Disney release but anything is possible I guess.
>But how do you avoid this? The story is not owned by Disney so how
>do you prevent someone from issuing a video release of the story?
>Can you force a company to say "Not the Disney Version!!" on the
>video cover? 

People do buy it thinking it is the Disney version. I work for Sears,
and last Christmas we carried Jungle Book--but it was the old live
action version from the 30's or 40's. We had several customers return
it for that very reason--they thought it was the other one. Same thing
happened with the Goodtimes animated "Rudolph"--people thought it was
the Rankin-Bass version.


--

Paul Fritschle                                         pfritsch@skid.PS.UCI.EDU
                             Cthulhu '92
                        'The Stars are Right!'
From: cpl3q@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Charles Philip Lu)
Subject: 5 day Super Pass
Followup-To: cpl3q@virginia.edu 
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:48:20 GMT


Hi, I was wondering if anyone can help me with a question I have 
about the 5 day super pass.

  The WDW rate sheet says that the 5 day super pass includes unlimited
admission to the Major theme parks and 7 consecutive days for the minor
theme parks from when the ticket is first used.
  So I could I do something like this?

Day 1: MK
Day 2: Typhoon Lagoon
Day 3: River Country
Day 4: Epcot
Day 5: rest
Day 6: Discover/Pleasure Island
Day 7: Typhoon Lagoon
Day 8: MGM
Day 9: MK/Epcot/MGM

Last Day of Super Pass : Next Year Sometime

I guess my main emphasis here is if I can go to all the minor theme
parks during the 7 days without wasting a day on the super pass and
after the 7 days have expired, to go out and enjoy MK/Epcot/MGM.

Thanks for your time.

Charlie
cpl3q@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Ellyn Sandor)
Subject: Crowds at Disney - suggestion
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:08:22 GMT

	Since there are so many postings here asking "how are the crowds
at XXX time of year," perhaps someone in the know could get us a plot
of average crowd size by month/week/day, whatever, and either post it,
include it in the FAQ, or (for day data) make it available for FTP.
	Perhaps this information is already in the FAQ, but I don't
remember ever seeing it.
	Anectodal evidence (I was there on xxx and it was crowded) are
not sufficient, since there seem to be conflicting points of view.
Besides, I'd rather look at a chart and say "Hmmm....  This day/week is
the least crowded all year, and I think I can get time off..."
	Max/min crowds would also be nice.
	I'm sure Disney has this information in-house (as well as
figures on EXACTLY how much ice cream is purchased per person per degree
above 60 F, etc, etc), but is it public? 

			sbm
-- 
--
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From: mross@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyland Fall Entertainment
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:05:04 GMT
Followup-To: someone who posted a few days ago
Organization: LASERAMA, usa


I just saw an ad in a local newspaper where Disneyland claims they will
continue Fantasmic!, The World According to Goofy parade, and the 
Beauty and the Beast stage show weekends during the fall season.  The
Main Street Electrical Parade will have its last 1992 showing September
13 (Sunday).

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Hurricane plans
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 18:59:49 GMT
Organization:  I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!

In article <Rich_Koster.0mh7@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
> 
>Do you know what, if any, hurricane preparation plans there are at Walt
>Disney World? I ask that now in light of the current projected path of
>Hurricane Andrew as of now (9:30 am Saturday morning, 8/22) would take it
>right through Cape Canaveral and on through Orlando.
> 
>Well, that day's forecast was something like "30% chance of sun" (love how
>they put a spin on the 70% chance of rain in the official Weather Bureau
>forecast!) and no mention of the tropical storm.  
>it on a local station's weather broadcast, we overheard a Disney Host
>telling other guests, "Oh, those storms pass over here all the time -- 
>nothing to worry about!"

Am I the only one that finds this disturbing? Now, someone compared this 
attitude to that of Californians faced with the prospect of a big quake.
That doesn't make it *right*, however. Andrew has been rated a 5 on the
Schiffermann scales, which means it is the most powerful a hurricane can
get. Blase attitudes could be a real problem in a pinch...how ready is 
the Magic Kingdom?


   Tyger
-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Little Mermaid
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:32:47 GMT
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Originator: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com


Ok, I figure I am going to get flamed big time for
this, as I have seen it happen to many others but
I am going to ask anyway.  I need new copy of
"The Little Mermaid."  I have looked all over 
Denver for it and can't find it anywhere.  I remember
reading several monthes ago when some guy had mentioned
that he found a place that had several copies on its
shelves.  Are you still out there?  And are there
any copies left?

This is not for me...it is for a niece, whose is
going through a pretty hard time right now and the
VCR recently ate her copy.

I will gladly pay all costs, plus a little (not
much as I am pretty broke these days) for anyone
who is able to get me a copy.

Thanks.

Cindy Camp

-- 
 Cindy Camp - Usual disclaimers apply
 Martin Marietta Astronautics Group  (303)977-9804
 snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com  (if that doesn't work try)
 cnewell@azum.den.mmc.com
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Upcoming features
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:45:29 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

The `Silly Hillbillies on Mars' title makes my skin crawl.  However, it reminds
me of some articles I read several years ago about an abortive attempt by
Disney to produce a feature based on Edgar Rice Burroughs' A PRINCESS OF
MARS.  This book is sort of a minor classic, notwithstanding the fact that
probably most of you have never heard of it.

I believe the original idea was to make a live-action feature, but the story
is much better suited to animation.  The story is essentially a fantasy
set on the planet Mars.  In terms of exotic locale, funny-looking characters,
etc., it provides as much room for the animator's imagination as any Disney
story so far.

The book is not a children's story.  It would require heavy modification to
become a children's feature, but probably no more than JUNGLE BOOK.
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Little Mermaid video
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:22:09 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


 Well, I finally managed to get back to the mall where I saw some copies
of TLM a month or so ago. As I mentioned in previous posts, I had seen some
copies at a local store and was willing to send them out to some folks
at cost + shipping. What I didn't know was that the cost was $36.99, which
probably explains why they were still available. If you really are convinced 
that you can't find one of these tapes locally and if you are
not as turned off by the price-gouging as I am, let me know and
we can arrange it so that I can get the tapes asap. It looked as though there
were 3-4 copies left. I noticed one was set aside behind the counter
with someone's name on it - I have no idea if they had more in the back
or not. I haven't had a chance to look elsewhere really, I know the
Disney store in town is out of copies and most other places seem to be out
as well. 

 I suspect that most folks will pass on the $36.99 price tag (I think I would)
but if not, then I'm afraid that I will have to do it first come first
served as there appears to only be a few copies available to me. 



						gln

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