HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: re: Gaynet
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:16:24 GMT
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com


Gaynet is currently being fixed.  It should be up I believe in a week or so.
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Butter
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:26:45 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

Melmothra:

>Aside from Dolphie's typical use of flawless grammar, this reads
>like something from Bret Ellis (and, in particular, Less than
>Zero)...

I finally read "American Psycho" a few months back while getting over
some jet lag.  I found it to be a very funny book; I am not entirely
convinced that Ellis isn't some kind of very dark satire factory.
It's quite tiring to read; problem is, I cannot tell if Ellis did this
on purpose to add "style" tio the novel (it's all first person narrative),
or if he is just a shitty writer.  It's so outrageous in places (the
Habitrail scene comes to mind) that giggling seems to be the only response.

I usually gave up after twenty pages and read something far more interesting
and well written, such as the Federal Aviation Regulations (Part 91, of
course).
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend

cruising: vidi, vici, veni.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon)
Subject: Re: usenet.age
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:03:14 GMT
Summary: categorical QM

In article <1992Sep26.170850.23399@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>,
gsmith@lauren.uucp (Gene W. Smith) writes:

> God, I hope category theory still retains its uselessness!  This degeneration
> into applied mathematics everywhere is depressing.

sadly, there are distinctly apps-grinding uses of categories in cosmology
and, apparently, even indirectly in QM, as I find from scans of sci.physics.
-- 
Michael L. Siemon		   "Oh, stand, stand at the window,
					As the tears scald and start;
mls@usl.com			   You shall love your crooked neighbor
standard disclaimer			With your crooked heart."
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:29:15 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com


 
 In article <1992Oct5.164742.7553@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>What I even less like is that when I order non-meat dishes, someone
>always wants you to explain your reason for not eating meat - even
>if it's just at this meal.
 
Actually, I know as many vegetarians who insist on explaining why they
are vegetarians as I do omnivores who ask why someone else is a
vegetarian...

People are nosy...


FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Subject: Re: ***APOLOGY*** (kindly read me)
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:12:59 GMT
Keywords: apology

In article <vanyel.717266190@camelot> vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams) writes:
>
>Acutally, it's because the majority of people in this group don't have
>anything better to do, I think.  

This from someone who takes his login name from one of the most insipid
trashy fantasy stories I've ever read.

Go back to playing with your tinker toys at milton bradley U.  Maybe
they'll teach you how to get your brain out of neutral and into first
gear, but I wouldn't count on it.

Why am I flaming you? I explained that the first 20 times, but you didn't
get it then either....

Ry Schwark
ry@usl.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Re: My Very Own Out List
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:05:57 GMT

In article <96965@bu.edu> kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
>Paglia views feminist porno-attacks in the same way she views homophobic
>attacks on both gay men and lesbians.

Gee, me too.  Unlike Paglia, however, I recognize that
most feminists don't take anti-porn positions, and I
*don't* run around complaining to the media about things
which simply aren't true.

What does it say about Paglia that she has a fundamental
antipathy toward the object of her sexual desires?  Since
when does being sex-positive require you to bash lesbians?
She's going through the repertoire of available lesbian
icons, picking the worst possible ones, and then
complaining because she didn't like what she found.
Misunderstood, my ass.
--
       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: My God! Less than a week away!
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:35:43 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1OCT92.15043174@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
>hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:
>>The twee one stated, matter-of-factly:
>>>No, but you can rent us by the hour.
>
>>    Ahhh,  then I suspect about 5 minutes worth would be sufficient.
>
>No no no no no no no!  Twee cannot be experienced in just five minutes!
>Why just the subtleties in textures and flavors could keep one busy for
>hours, even days.  The color variations are spectacular!  And such
>delicious aroma!
    
    OH.  Isn't little JD a veritable *concentrate* of just these
    things? 

>I suggest personal research into the subject.  Five minutes indeed.
><tsk> <tsk>
>
     Oh dear, where do I *start*?

     Wayne
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: Re: WILSON *VETOES* Comprehensive Civil Rights Bill AB3825
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:27:41 GMT

In article <dbhz4fl@rpi.edu> buckmr@vccnw02.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>There WAS a Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1992 that WAS a full civil rights
>bill for Queers [as well as disabled, women, race, religion, etc] and Wilson
>vetoed it today...

Very clever, that Wilson.  He signs the bill that codifies into law the
existing non-discrimination policy in employment, and vetos the bill that
would actually extend any new rights.  Toss us some more crumbs, Pete
darling, we're lapping them up...

      -paul asente
	   asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

When a change of scene was proposed, Lady Celia suggested a visit to the
nearby seat of Sir Egbert, a dear friend of her youth.
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: enough already.
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:15:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct4.051514.21434
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Oct4.033823.6660@unlinfo.unl.edu> cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe) writes:
>>>>the now aging, but never-surpassed performance
>>>>of Elgar's Cello Concerto by du Pre'.
>>>which never fails to leave me in a profoundly elegaric mood.
>>>Well, jeff, I suspect neither of them were in to gastropods although 
>>>certain Helicidae accompanied with much butter, garlic and heat were 
>>>very likely into them.
>>Sounds more like an elegarlic mood.
>Oi!  That makes me feel allium choked up.

Speaking of gastronomy, have I ever served you that meal for 40 guests,
_Spam in Allium_?

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:13:06 GMT

buckmr@vccsouth19.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:


>I was curious as to how many people use terms of endearment with their SOs. Dean
>and I use them to such an extent with each other it is almost grating to hear
>him actually call me Ron, instead of the usual sobriquet that we use when we're
>together.

>Just curious...as to what other people go through..

I often use the person's real name with a prefix or suffix, e.g. ___-toes,
___-creature, or sweet ___.  I also invent formal epithets, such as Magic
Dragon or Giant of Affection.  But none of my lovers has reciprocated to
any great extent.

I know a (heterosexual) couple who address each other routinely as Hero
& Beautiful Lady.

Joe   jcf@world.std.com
From: mcmelmon@aruba.apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heterosexuals (was Re: Faggots)
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:45:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rabid.flaming.queen
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Sep25.211205.23709@spdcc.com>, rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob
Donahue) wrote:
> 
> mcmelmon@aruba.apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> 
> 	And for some reason thinks we're on a first-name basis.
> You can't possibly think that your petty insults mean anything to
> me, can you? 

Maybe yes, maybe no.  The fact remains that you keep sending me
silly little notes.  Use of your first name bears no semblance to
cordial interaction.  Purely an accident, I assure you.  To avoid
any future confusion, perhaps I should refer to you simple as:

  Donna Who

Which, no doubt, would send waves of fury crashing my way from the
anti-misogynist camp - but they stop reading anything I wrote long,
long ago.

And it goes so well with Queer without a Clue.  Coming to a theater
near you!  Donna Who and the Queer without a Clue!  See them do nasty,
unspeakable things to each other!  Anal sex!  Oral sex!  Aural sex!
Sex!  Sex!  Sex!

In sttteeeerrrrrreeeooooooooooo...!
 
> 	Follow-ups redirected elsewhere.

Maybe, maybe not.  I wish you a lot of luck in this war to Take Back
the Group (coming to a theater near you!).  You haven't got a prayer,
but Ma Donna you ain't, so small wonder.  Then again, if you time
it just right, you'll catch the seasonal invasions at a low ebb - you'll
probably have a week or two of just me and Bob Sarver.  Then, you
can declare *victory*!  And when the inevitable invasion occurs, of
course, it will be a *new* threat, and not simply more of the same.

Your best bet for the 'good old daze' is still a private little newsgroup 
all to your wittle sewvs.

Ciao Donna,

Melmothra
 
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: enough already.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:01:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.201247.20643@netcom.com> stephena@netcom.com (Stephen 
Arrants) writes:
>
>Um....would this have anything to do with the "'Harder Sir!'/'Take it, Boy!'" 
>discussion of a few months back?  

Amazing how these things get sanitized, isn't it?

Those lines were "Shove it deeper, master" and "Take it, you bitch". 

-- 

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Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:01:13 GMT

In article <66965@cup.portal.com>, Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
> While I knew this, the first "person" to come to my mind when
> I hear/read "Pookie" is [this may get me relegated to the 
> SF.Geeks.Hell, if I'm not already] is Pookanthimbusille, a
> very professional female Pervect bodyguard from Robert Asprin's
> _Myth-Nomers_And_Im-Pervections_.

  Pookie. My first experience with that name was from _Victor Victoria_
way back when. I had a boyfriend at the time who had an unendearing
love of calling me pookie while pulling out chest hairs (ouch!).
(Does anybody else remember this? Didn't she say something like 
"Oh pokie, it like *pow*", while pulling his chest hairs out?)
  Btw, I always thought that a good new title for that series would
be _Ain't Myth-behavin'_. It's got potential, although the series
is pretty inane.
-- 

		Michael Thomas	(mike@gordian.com)
	"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."  
		-- Hobbes to Calvin
		USnail: 20361 Irvine Ave Santa Ana Heights, Ca,	92707-5637
		PaBell: (714) 850-0205 (714) 850-0533 (fax)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:06:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.174256.24223@gordian.com> mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>>Would it be rude to say "You'd be a handsome puss if you just grew a beard?"
>>:-) :-)
>  Actually, I had a three week old one on my summer vacation up in Oregon.

You mean during the con?

>There's something about being out in the wilderness and
>communing with nature (and driving a truck with shotgun racks and
>six packs :-) that seems to demand giving up shaving.

Ah yes, what's it _really_ like to go camping with Bob Sarver? 
Snuggling together in the same sleeping bag with your manly buddy... :-)

>  Unfortunately (?), facial hair really bugs me and I seem to
>develop an annoying rash after a while. Besides, I can't stand
>when my face hairs get pulled...

Are you talking tweezers a la Joan, or are you just suggesting you need
lovers with more finesse?

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Camille Paglia on fashion (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:07:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct7.012335.28329@wam.umd.edu> lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
>} IN is caring, caring for the environment, for society and
>} for the less fortunate.  We *respect* people of colour,
>} unless they're, er, *too* black, and the differently-abled,
>
>Excuse me, but would you mind filling me in on what it is to be *too* black?

The original poster was employing irony, but the answer, for people who
really think that way, is very similar to how you can be "too gay":  enough
that anyone else would notice it. 

-- 

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Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 2 Oct 1992 17:28:19 GMT
Organization: sgi
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Oct2.164655.15688@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
 
|> >If these Adonises are all dating each other, that leaves a lot
|> >of normal people for us normal people to date.
|> 
|> However, I don't think Fred is "normal people". Fred is devastatingly
|> attractive. Whimper.


And did you make advances?
 
 
|> Then I look around at the motss.con, and I notice the set of people
|> who I'm choosing to spend my time with. For example, I looked around
|> on the porch at Alan's BBQ and I was surrounded by 8 bearded men, most
|> (if not all) of whom were full fledged bears.

Gee, I have had days like this too... Usually, the bearded men are naked
as well, but that is just a detail...

 
|> I notice men with beards more often than men without.

You mean you would not notice me? *pout* consider that warm bed offer
in SF revoked ;-)...

 
|> I'm noticing a trend here. What ever will I do? :-)

You will begin be unbuttoning the top button of his flannel shirt.



FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: enough already.
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 18:49:08 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber):
> You have a cause, Jason.  To be an unmitigated asshole.

well, well, well... looks like your kill-file code needs to
be debugged, man.  that last clause which "kills everything
else" doesn't appear to be working effectively...

> [Now, I like assholes myself.  There's so many fun things
> you can do with them.  It's when they can type and post to
> motss that they become annoying.]

*SMOOCHES*!
-- 
Queer Without A Cause!
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: daniel@nstn.ns.ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: gay science fiction
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 11:42:33 GMT

Ok- and don't forget

Garber, Eric and Lyn Paleo, Editors.  Worlds Apart, an anthology of lesbian 
	and gay	science fiction and fantasy.  1986:Alyson Publications, 288p.

This has 11 short stories ranging from very, very good to somewhat only
slightly stinky.  There's Delany's _Time Considered as a Helix of
Semi-Precious Stones_ and the outrageously funny _Find the Lady_ by
Nicholas Fisk, about two delerious queens coping after the collapse of
civilization and takeover of the Earth by War-of-the-Worlds-like robots.

Can't recommend _Dhalgren_ enough.  It had me panting most of the way
through.
--
Daniel MacKay					daniel@nstn.ns.ca
Homo habilis					Nova Scotia, Canada
From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ours flamb'e (was Re: ***APOLOGY*** (kindly read me))
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 13:32:24 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <66653@cup.portal.com> <1992Sep26.183119.16113@macc.wisc.edu>

Jess Anderson, who casts me against type in the much sought-after
role of St. Frank of the Sissies, sez:

>In article <66653@cup.portal.com> Minotaur@cup.portal.com
>(Frank - Swilling) writes:

>Geez, Frank, you are a Big Meanie.  I mean, how come Melmac
>the Mentally Unfunded and Karlheinz der Witzlose never take
>out after you, huh?  Must be your halo is just *too*
>blinding!  I mean, especially after all those Good Works
>and all.

>Jess Anderson

I could almost *see* you posting this "halo & Good Works" bit
even as I uploaded my response to Donahue.  But we both know
that's just smoke and mirrors, don't we?  This isn't about
Good Works or haloes, or any other such bullshit, and you know
it full well, Mr. Look-in-the-mirror-and-see-The-Truth.  Bob
Donahue has defamed me in a public forum, posting bullshit that
is provably untrue, and I have proceeded to offer that proof.  He
says that everything I post serves only to insult someone, which
is a DAMNED LIE, and that I've never contributed anything of value
to soc.motss, which he is free to believe.  I only hope that he is
*alone* in that belief.

Now your response more or less chides, "But you didn't have to include
your 'good press' to make that point.  You could have just directed
him to the articles in question."  But I would beg to differ; since he
has already loaded the dice by saying that he reads everything here and
has this excellent memory, and that nothing I've written here has any
value, it was necessary for me to show him that at least *some* other
people felt differently.  It's a Catch-22 for me, but you would have
preferred that I cover myself in sackcloth and ashes and let him do a
Robertson/Buchanan Character Assassination By Innuendo number on me?
I'll see him in hell first  If he actually has a case, and presents it
in a fair and reasonable manner, you *know* that I will accept my share
of the responsibility and apologize to anyone I have offended whom I didn't
*intend* to offend -- which would be nearly everyone to whom I have ever
spoken to here; but all he has offered up so far is hot air.

Pass me *your* halo, dear boy, and let's go play Frisbee while we wait.

And thanks for siccing Melman and whoever the hell that other one is
on me.

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
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From: georgere@microsoft.com (George V. Reilly)
Subject: Re: Ry Schwark Bytes!
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:31:51 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
	<1992Sep29.125609.10254@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>

Not only does Ry Schwark byte, but he also nybbles and lycks.
Amongst other things.

ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
) dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
) >On the other hand, the Schwark/Reilly (Schweilly?) USL/Microsoft
) >liason may be the computer industry's equivalent
) >of the romance of those Clinton/Bush het droids.

Schweilly?  Gak.

) I sort of thought of it as sleeping with the enemy :-)

Sleep, Enemy Mine?  I don't remember getting too much sleep.
______________
George V. Ryly   <GeorgeRe@Microsoft.Com>
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rcrice@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (roger.w.crice)
Subject: Re: Red Rubbon Rant
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:35:14 GMT


Could somebody explain the green ribbons that I first
observed on the bosoms of folks at the CMA awards?
Seems like it might be yet another 'cause' that you 
can wear as a fashion statement, but not do a whole
lot about - in this case, say what?  Environmentalism?

Roger.
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Oregon Right To Privacy Fundraiser
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:57:12 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum

markm@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey) writes:
>The dinner raised nearly $70,000 for the No on 9 campaign.  There was
>also a preview of new television commercials slated for saturation
>play in the next month.  The messages is simple "Measure 9 is more
>than wrong, it is dangerous".

Of which, $50,000 was raised by passing the hat around the hall (!!).
These two new commercials are great, IMHO very powerful and hard hitting.
They hit on a much more visceral level than the "constitution" spot, 
which struck me as too cerebral for the type of people they're trying
to win over.

The first new commercial features a teacher pointing out the absurdity
of what she'd have to say and the climate of hate it would create.

The second new spot features a heterosexual man, prominent in state
politics for the over 20 years, who is dying of cancer and vows that
his last determination is to live long enough to vote no on 9.  If 9
passes, he says the Oregon he loves will be gone forever.  It's an
incredibly moving (and effective) spot that should leave the OCA squirming.
I wish I could remember this remarkable man's name, he's been made the
honorary co-chair of the No on 9 campaign.

-- 
Brent Capps           | 
bcapps@agora.rain.com | Know what to kiss, and when.
bcapps@atlastele.com  |
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