From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: Big Chief? / SubPop=Seattle / SST Discussion
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:15:43 GMT

In article <180vsvINNt4m@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:


>In a previous article, Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) says:

>>Most of the early Sub Pop bands (i.e. Green River, Tad, Mudhoney) were
>>from Seattle, but recently they've been signing mostly non-Seattle bands
>>since a) they're trying to diversify, and b) there are a lot of Seattle
>>bands today who are pretty jaded and don't realize how hard they suck.
>>
>>I think Sup Pop basically became "the Seattle label" by default more than
>>by choice. Somebody probably heard Mudhoney, thought they were cool, and
>>proclaimed SP to be a Cool Label. Kinda like with My Bloody Valentine and
>>Creation Records. SP and Creation, among other labels, have both put out
>>more than their share of utter schitt.

>True.  If you think of it, though, SST and SubPop are kinda competing
>for the same type of market.  They both offer the same type of music.
>When was SubPop started and when was SST started?

>In any case, you listed some SubPop bands that eventually migrated to
>big labels.  Howerver, it seems that SST made out a lot better on the
>bands they signed:

>Buffalo Tom, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, Screaming Trees, Husker Du, Black
>Flag, Dinosaur Jr., Negativland, Firehose,

>Of course, all they have left is Leaving Trains.

>Something, though, is nagging at me and telling me that:

>1) SST bought Husker Du's Catalog because Husker Du is older than SST
>(of ocurse, I don't know when either SST or Husker Du first started)
>and..
>2) SST bought Black Flag's catalog to solidify the label.  When did
>black flag begin and end?

>Who started SST?  Who started SubPop?


SubPop I think was started -86, possibly -85, by.....ohhhh, wat was his name 
again. Dave something i think. It got it's name from an article he wrote on 
the west coast's sub-terranian pop-music, or a series of articles I think.

SST I dont know but I know it's pretty old since I have a Sonic Youth LP on 
SST from -82.

The relationship between SST and SubPop has been very noticeable(is that 
spelled right?) indeed. There are quite a number of split singles/EP's with 
SubPop/SST bands.
As you say Soundgarden and Screaming Trees have both been on SST but, as a 
matter of fact both of these started out on SubPop. In addition to that 
Buffalo Tom, Black Flag, Sonic Youth and Dinosaur Jr. have all had releases 
of some sort on SubPop. Actually SubPop has had quite an amazing number of 
bands you would never imagine on some of their records. The very first 
SubPop release was called "SubPop 100". A compilation of underground bands 
from around th US. I can mention bands like Soundgarden (yes they have been 
around for some time),Green River (later cracked and turned into Mudhoney, 
Mother Love Bone and Screaming Trees), and (believe it or not) Skinny Puppy.


A short list of *realy* cool SubPop realeases:

	SubPop 2000 (comp.): (CD only) Contains the entire SubPop 200 
                             LP (Sondgarden: SubPop Rock City
                                 Mudhoney: The Rose
                                 Nirvane: Spank Thru
                                 Fluid: Is It Day? (GREAT. not the same 
                                                   version as on Roadmouth))
                             + much much more

	L7 - Smell The Magic EP 

	Nirvana - Love Buzz single

	Mudhoney - Mudhoney LP

	Soundgarden - Screaming Life EP

	Thee Headcoats - Heavens To Murgatroid..It's Thee Headcoats, Allready


Hope this clears up some questions. Now, I've written this off the top of my 
head, so if anybody disagrees on something: pelase post; you are probably 
right.



-----Gunnarh
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