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From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA Scandal
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:28:03 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
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In-reply-to: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu's message of 6 Nov 92 10:35:10 GMT

}} In article <1992Nov6.103510.5952@cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) writes:
}} 
}} (I won't mention how hitting that 1 FT made me 1-10 for the game.  And
}}  how that game raised my percentage for the season...)

See, Trent, I told you that renting that "Dale Brown on Basketball"
video would improve your game.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
       "If you loose your arrow, you're likely to lose it in the weeds,"
                       was often heard in days of yore.

             "Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
                          They have to take you in."
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Pac-10 Tourney 
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:07:23 GMT

elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
> I thought it only happened twice, the first held at UCLA which they won
> and the second held at Arizona which they won. 

You seem to be somewhat off.

The ones I remember are: 1988 at the Forum in L.A. (not in UCLA).
Stanford beat UCLA in the semis and lost handily to UofA in the
final.  UofA went on to the Final Four.

In 1989 it was in Tempe at Arizona State.  Oregon State came in tied
with Arizona for the regular season title, but lost in the first or
second round to ASU, who went on to lose in the final to UofA.

I'm pretty sure there was also a tournament in 1987, but I'm too young
to remember.


--Gidi


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From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Memphis State Schedule
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:22:10 GMT

I there any kind soul on the net who could e-mail me Memphis State's
schedule for this season?  Any other information you could share about
the team would be welcome as well.
 
Jim McMaster
From: oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA Scandal
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:14:47 GMT
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Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov6.103510.5952@cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) wrote:
> Who told you I couldn't shoot my free throws?  Matthew?  Scott?
> 
> I'll have you know that I iced one IM game last year by hitting 1 out of 2
> free throws with ten seconds left.  Truly a clutch performance for an IM game.

Obivously, there was no money riding on it nor a big crowd watching.

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From: 00bjgood@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Ted Kitchell
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:10:16 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

>>>>what ever happened to Ted Kitchell?
>>>
>>>In article <1992Nov4.155229.1601@hemlock.cray.com> jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:
>>How good would he have been in the NBA.  Wasn't he co-Big10 player of the
>>year his senior season, even though he missed a lot of games due to his
>>injury?
> 
> That was probably his junior season, when Randy Whitman had to be
> redshirted due to an injury.  Then, Ted was a primary scorer.  The next
> year, when Whitman came back, Ted's scoring was off a bit, because Whitman
> ended up player-of-the-year.
> -- 
Wittman not Whitman 
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: FAB FIVE is back in Ann Arbor
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:00:02 GMT

In article <Bxo6uM.91p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )  
writes:

> 	About the only person besides Webber that had a non-kines major
> 	was James Voskuil, who is a mechanical engineering major (and has
> 	an e-mail address too!)

Maybe we can get him to post...

OD

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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Where's Grant Hill?
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:43:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6992
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <8f0l0Hy00iUz08bJ4y@andrew.cmu.edu>, mc83+@andrew.cmu.edu (Myung Joon Choi) writes:
>I can't believe Grant Hill was left out of the top five Duke players of
>all-time list.  Danny Ferry over Grant Hill?  No way!

The question is, has Grant Hill had the same impact in two years that Ferry
had in four? The answer is no.  

>  Sure Ferry went to three final fours, but he was a key contributor for only
> his senior season. 

This is incorrect.  Ferry was ACC POY his junior and senior season.  He was
also one of the leading scorers on the team as a sophomore.  He also started
several games as a freshman.  For his career, Ferry had over 2000 pts, over
1000 rebounds, and over 500 assists.  In the college game, his versatility 
allowed him to dominate.  It's a shame his game wasn't built for the pros.

> In Grant's two years, Duke is undefeated in the NCAA tournament. 

G has also had Christian Laettner, Bobby Hurley and Thomas Hill around to help.
Ferry had Quin Snyder.  
> And for those of you who will bring up "the numbers" to
>back Ferry up, check out tapes of the final four games the last two
>years. 

I've watched these tapes (believe me!).  G was terrific in the Michigan game.
But in his two years, he has not yet been aggressive enough, all the time.
Part of this was in deference to the upperclassmen, but the next two years
will be the true test of his greatness.

>Put in the bank, Grant Hill will be remembered as the greatest player ever to
> play Duke basketball.

It's entirely possible.  G's potential is unlimited.  Coach K said that he
will let him do whatever he wants to on the court.  I fully expect 20 pts,
9 rbs and 5 ast a game this year!
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Don't worry about the missed free throw, Christian.  We all make mistakes."
--Richard Nixon to Christian Laettner, after he missed the front end of a 
one-and-one with one second left, playing Arizona
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From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: UMass:The ONLY Midnight Madness that matters.
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:29:54 GMT

In article <18893.2af52728@ecs.umass.edu> dmason@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>	All of you better take heed.  The UMass Minutemen began their practices
>with a 12:01 a.m. practice in front of 6000 people in the Ragin' Cage at the
>Amherst Campus.  This year's team will surpass any and all other records set by
>last year's squad.  UMass turned the NCAA upside down last year, including a
>routing of Syracuse in the final 16.  Sadly this will be the last year of the
>Cage, and the first year of the 'bran spankin new' Mullins Arena, on or around
>February 4, 1993.  This year, the Minutemen will take us all to the edge, and
>back again.  To Gary Newell, if he is still around, I wish for a UMass-Arizona
>conflict in the post season, just so I can laugh in your face.
>regards,
>dOn mASoN

 oh it's been abouit a week all ready since practices began....but at
Purdue, we had OVER 12,000 people see our team practice..get real..
6,000..hmmmmm....better ghet more people there..

Scott
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Back for more - Stanford is No. 1
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:29:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov9.202924.5340
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>Women's basketball??  Is that a legitimate topic for discussion in this
>group? ;-)  I guess with all the discussion about allowing Kansas posts in
>this group (Why people care what fans of a two-bit program like Kansas that
>lost to Louisville at home last year post is beyond me), you're well justified
>in trying to change the subject to ANYTHING else. :)

Women's basketball has been and will continue to be a legitamate topic in
this newsgroup until the formation of r.s.bb.women.  There may not be as
many followers as the men's game, but there are number of us out here who 
have season tickets to both men's and women's games.

Cliff (Yeah, I see the smileys, but I'm still a bit offended) Slaughterbeck

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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: USENET Top 25 Team Name Update!!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:43:23 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1ds545INNc7i@agate.berkeley.edu> sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:
>>>In article <9210191523.AA11836@walt.disney> chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
>>>>Other acceptable team names for the Top 25 poll:
>>>>
>>>>Dook
>
>I always liked David Duke University - or
>WAEPOOBSOTBTU - Why Are Eighty Percent Of Our Black Students On The
>		Basketball Team University
>or just WBU - Wonder Bread University - for short.

	Sounds to me more like you're talkin' 'bout Vanderbilt.  I would say
BYU, except BYU never has any black players on the team either.

	I suppose when you visited Duke you never bothered going to Central
Campus...or maybe you're just speaking from pig ignorance...

>greg
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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: All-time teams
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:48:54 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <lfgjp0INNid3@bovina.cs.utexas.edu> wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
>In article <Bx7IpE.1BG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>|
>|
>|	Here's a good question to ponder -- who would U put as the starting
>|	five on an all-time Duke team?  In my opinion, I'd definitely have
>|	Christian Laettner, Johnny Dawkins, and Danny Ferry.  Perhaps I'd
>|	also throw in Jeff Mullins -- but I don't know too much about the
>|	players before the mid-70's or so.  Any comments?
>|
>|	Jazzy J
>The candidates that I can think of are:
>
>Mike Gminski
>Gene Banks
>Vince Taylor
>Johnny Dawkins
>Tommy Amaker
>Mark Alarie
>Danny Ferry
>Christian Laettner
>Bobby Hurley
>Grant Hill (wait...)
>
>I'd love to see these guys scrimmage!  Anyway, I'd probably start:
>
>Hurley
>Dawkins
>Gminski
>Laettner
>Banks
>
	I think of the pre-Bill Foster players, you have to include Heyman, 
Mullins, and, going way back, Dick Groat.  Of those Heyman was probably the
best; at least he garnered the most honors during his playing days.  My
starting five would probably be:

C:	Gminski
PF:	Laettner
SF:	G. Hill or Art Heyman
SG:	Dawkins
PG:	Hurley or Amaker

	It's tough leaving Ferry off the team, but he just doesn't have the
inside game of either Gminski or Laettner.  Banks is also a close call.  I
would probably give the PG spot to Amaker on the strength of his entire career,
(Hurley committed a lot of turnovers as a freshman), and his more consistent
leadership and maturity.  I'm really not qualified to judge between Hill and
Heyman, as I never saw Art play.


>but, I'd be perfectly happy with the scrubs :^)...

	Me too.

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Tufts University              			The Conversation
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Back for more - Stanford is No. 1
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:34:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Women's basketball??  Is that a legitimate topic for discussion in this
group? ;-)  I guess with all the discussion about allowing Kansas posts in
this group (Why people care what fans of a two-bit program like Kansas that
lost to Louisville at home last year post is beyond me), you're well justified
in trying to change the subject to ANYTHING else. :)

Mike
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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: ACC Recruiting
Date: 5 Nov 1992 12:42:05 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
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Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov

Virginia lost another recruit Tuesday night as 6'9" Kirk Luchman of 
Medford Lakes, NJ verbally committed to Florida State.  The Cavaliers
appeared to have him all but signed, but he changed his mind after
visiting Tallahasse over the weekend. FSU and UVa were Luchman's only
official visits. 

The Cavaliers are only carrying 14 players on it's roster this season.
They signed zero recruits last year. So far this fall, they have signed
3 players but have lost out now on two heavily recruited players.


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NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: All-time Purdue team
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:48:22 GMT
Keywords: Dook,UA

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>All-time Purdue team:

>G - John Wodden
>G - Rick Mount
>F - Terry Dischinger
>F/C - Charles "Stretch" Murphy
>C - Joe Barry Carroll

	What about coach and bench?  Some of the recent players I would
	stick on include Troy Lewis, Steve Scheffler, Jim Rowinski, and
	Russell Cross.  How about an all Gene Keady coached team?

	Jazzy J
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Xref: sparky rec.sport.basketball.college:16433 rec.sport.football.college:19014
From: arminius@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Referendum on Jayhawk Postings
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:54:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6831
Reply-To: arminius@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college


In article <OLIVER.92Nov8144648@m66-080-8.mit.edu>, oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III) writes:
|
|> In article <1992Nov7.011445.44493@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
|> > In article <1992Nov5.183420.13680@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, kbowers@esrc1.uucp 
|> > (Ken Bowers) writes:
|> >> Is it possible to woof simply by posting
|> >> an incredible amount of stuff about a team even if the content
|> >> does not contain what is generally regarded as woofing statements?
|> >> 
|> >> Hoping for a ruling from the r.s.b.c authorities,
|> 
|> > Please, make your statement.  Ken asked you.  I ask you.
|> 
|> The Gods have spoken:  49-7.  Questions?
|> 
|> > Kansas Mary
|> 
|> Any relation to Typhoid?
| ____________________________
|> 	Jim Oliver  
|
  OK, is it possible to woof simply by posting a question about simply posting
an incredible amount of stuff about a team even if..etc.?

Anyway, it is only electrons, and as long as it is well-marked, doesn't bother
me. Besides, it'll probably be more relevant once play actually starts.

ian
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Technicals (Was Re: Worst ACC Refs: )
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:28:36 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <721519396@stego.cs.duke.edu> rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
><  And of course, there was the silly situation where Timberlake clearly 
><assaulted  Laettner's sneaker with his stomach.  Unbelievable.
>
>A little known fact that was never much discussed was the magnet they 
>discovered that had been sown in Laettner's shoe.  Turns out
>Timberlake had swallowed a nail as a three year old that never passed
>through his system.  Those Kentucky folks are pretty unscrupulous.

No doubt the magnet was mailed (via Emery Express) to a Kentucky fan 
at Duke who did this dastardly deed.

The nail which Timberlake swallowed was no doubt supplied by Duke.

Of course Laettner was innocent.  And Duke will threepeat.  Right....

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:34:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.214649.28459@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca  
(Andrew Markham P205) writes:

> The 'amoeba' is always close together chasing the ball, but never
> in a tight group (with some of the kids losing sight of the ball
> and guessing wrong, etc)...
> 
> True entertainment!

Don't forget the little kiddies kicking each other, too!  That's
what I remember about junior soccer - getting kicked a lot.  Made
me feel like Timberlake.

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From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: Cherokee Parks-Les Robinson anectdote
Originator: currin@poult1.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:31:55 GMT


There was a humerous blurb in this mornings paper. Les Robinson was commenting
on his experience coaching Cherokee Parks this past summer. He said he would see
Parks make a nice play and say great play, but wait a miniute I have to play 
against this guy later. Once in an airport Les doled out Park's lunch money. 
Parks  seeing that two guys had witnessed the transaction said" Thanks coach, 
I'll tranfer to State now"

RC
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: All-Name Teams
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:40:06 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC


 On a lighter, non ACC-megaposting note, here are my carefully crafted
   All-Name teams:

All-Mellifluous:

Logan Vandervelden, Wisconsin-G.B.
Gavin Vanderputten, Pepperdine
Channing McGuffin, James Madison
Ulises Asprilla, Baylor
Jeff Quackenbush, St Bonaventure (wasn't he a Groucho Marx character?)

All-Self Describing:

Spencer Dunkley, Delaware
David Stiff, Boston University
Mike Speed, Northwestern St. (related to Mike Quick, perhaps?)
Orlando Lightfoot, Idaho 
Blitz Wooten, La Salle (wrong sport!)

All Quirky:

Bobo Flonoury, Florida International
Culumber Ball, Prairie View
Oyango Merriman, St. Peter's
Boikai Braggs, The Citadel
Eelko Derks, SE Missouri St.

All Cool:

Coleco Buie, Chicago St. (I hear he has brothers named Nintendo and Mattel)
Brooklyn McLinn, Cal St.-Northridge
Sonique Nixon, Maryland-Balt. County
Shambrick Williams, Boise St.
Tron Jenkins, Akron

All Miscellaneous:

D'Andre Parmley, Delaware St.
Quinston Boozer, Grambling St.
Norbert Valis, Princeton
Sammie Liberatore, Furman
Parrish Casebier, Evansville

Coach: Fang Mitchell, Coppin State
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Next to Keith Richards, Sacramento looks great."--Pete Vecsey, on the Kings'
  chances this year.
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