HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mario@cad4.lbl.gov (mario aranha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: problem with XDB
Keywords: xdb, pascal
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:49:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: overload.1992Apr7.174941.24570
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory

XDB seems to get confused when I step thru' a
pascal module:

Example 1:
---------

>w
  417:      globals_command_state := -55;
= 418:      foo_bar               := FALSE;
  419:
>p globals_command_state
1073953348


Example 2:
----------
>w
  3370:           msg_tag := 'display_cmd10';
 =3371:           msg_param := new_display_spec;
  3372:        END;
>p msg_tag
Unknown name "msg_tag" (UE369)


Anyone know what could be wrong ?
From: duff@starbase.mitre.org (David A. Duff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: backup strategies using hp 35480A dds drive
Summary: help me with using hp dds for backup
Keywords: dat dds hp 35480A compression backup fbackup
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:21:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: starbase.duff.703459311
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

i have an hp 35480A dds drive attached to my hp 730 running hp-ux 8.07.
i have device drivers attached for both compressed and normal modes.  i
have a few questions about how to make use of compression.

i thought that the compression mode of the tape was supposed to be
software controllable, but even hp programs such as fbackup do not seem
to provide any explicit control over this, other than letting you
specify which device to use.

i tried using fbackup locally dumping to the dat drive in both the
normal and compressed modes.  i was expecting the compressed mode to be
a little faster, since i assumed there would be less data actually
written to the tape.  the compressed mode took a very tiny bit longer
than the normal mode, however.  unfortunately, without filling up a
tape, there isn't really way to tell how much tape was used in each case
-- is there?

when i compared the time required to do the following operations:

fbackup -f /dev/dat
fbackup -f /dev/dat-compressed
fbackup -f - | compress > /dev/dat

the third one is by far the fastest and seems to use the smallest amount
of tape.  however, it would seem that piping the whole fbackup output
through compress would seriously degrade the robustness of the resulting
archive - i.e. one bad byte would destroy the integrity of the entire
thing.  also, compress doesn't have the smarts to tell you change the
tape and stuff like that...

are people using the compression feature on their hp dds drives?  does
it work?  does it help?  is it "safe" for backups?  is it any better
than using the machine's normal compress command?  why doesn't fbackup
provide more direct support for the compression feature of hp dds drives
and/or the equivalent of piping through compress?  it would seem to
greatly reduce the size of dumps...

theoretically, i can put up to 8GB on a single dat.  however, i can not
use fbackup to backup nfs-mounted disks.  using hp's normal backup
tools, this makes it very difficult for me to take advantage of the
dat's capacity.  is it possible to do multiple fbackup's onto one dat
(using the no-rewind mode, for example and then using something like mt
to skip around on the tape as needed)?

dave duff                   mitre corporation               703-883-7731
duff@mitre.org             ai technical center            mclean, va usa
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: oliveria@caen.engin.umich.edu (Roque Donizete de Oliveira)
Subject: where is troff (otroff) and ditroff on the HP 9000/720 ?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 18:27:40 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

   I'd like to install Adobe's TRANSCRIPT 3.0 on the HP 9000/720
but I can't find troff (otroff) and ditroff. Are these part of
the standard software (HPUX 8.05) ?
   Has anyone managed to get  Adobe's TRANSCRIPT 3.0 working on
the HP 9000/720 ?
   Thanks.

    Roque Oliveira
    oliveria@caen.engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: steves@socrates.umd.edu (Steven Sonnenberg)
Subject: Re: getrusage()
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:11:34 GMT

>On my system (HP 9000/700 series, running HP-UX 8.07), I don't have a
>man page on this, as far as I can determine, though there is pertinent
>information in /usr/include/sys/resource.h.

Last time I checked, there was no system call implemented on HP-UX,
but the kernel is maintaining the 'rusage' data structures internally.

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From: lamont@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (LaMont Jones)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:49:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Fortran lib?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

shinn@agsm.ucla.edu (Shinn-Tzong Wu) writes:
>Sorry to post here, but I could not get mail to Mr. Bob Montgomery (mail
>log shown below).  I just wonder where is the libhppa located since I
>could not ld it?

libhppa.a lives in /usr/lib, and is part of the PROG-AUX fileset.  You should
be able to use -lhppa in your cc/ld line.  If not, you should make sure that
PROG-AUX is loaded on the system.

Of course, this is not an official statement of Hewlett-Packard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jxt@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (TOLLIVER J S)
Subject: ^D, ^U, and ^W on HP-UX -- SUMMARY
Reply-To: jxt@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (TOLLIVER J S)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:29:06 GMT

Thanks to many of you, I now have ^D, ^U, and ^W working "correctly." The
correct answer is to use set -o viraw. A convenient place to make that
setting, for ksh users, is in the ENV file, typically name .kshrc but must
be defined in your .profile.

The weird thing is that on at least two other systems (Silicon Graphics
and RS/6000), viraw is off by default but ^D, ^U, and ^W still work
as expected. At this point, this is mostly just an academic question,
but does anyone understand why viraw must be on for HP-UX but not for
those other systems? Perhaps more importantly, what *ELSE* does viraw
do?

Thanks,
Johnny Tolliver
jxt@ornl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x.motif
From: mayer@hplnpm1.hpl.hp.com (Niels P. Mayer)
Subject: HPUX 8.0 Problem linking libPW && Motif XmFileSelectionBoxWidget
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Software Technology Lab, Palo Alto, CA.
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:49:23


When linking a Motif program using the Motif XmFileSelectionBoxWidgetClass,
you must link with '-lPW' in order to define the routines regex() and
regcmp() needed by that widget.

Under HPUX 7.0, this was no problem. Under HPUX 8.0 (HP9000s370 ||
HP9000s720) (and shared libraries) linking with '-lPW' resulted in the
following error:

| /bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols:
|    Error (data)

It turns out 'Error (data)' is an 'undef' from '-lPW'. 

I 'nm|grep'd through all libraries on our HPUX8.07/s720 system and couldn't
find a place where 'Error' was defined. The only hint I found was in
grepping through all the include files on the system --
/usr/include/macros.h has the following entry:
| /*
|  * A global error message string.
|  */
| extern char	Error[128];

So therefore, I declared 'char	Error[128];' in my program, and everything 
worked just like it used to in 7.0.

What's the real scoop on this? Where is "Error(data)" supposed to be
defined? Is the programmer really supposed to define an undocumented
variable that is used in the internals of a system library?

Any explanations, or documentation pointers?

Thanks in advance for any light that can be shed on the subject.

PS: Since no other Unix (sunOS, ultrix, mips, SGI, NeXT, dgux, ibm, ...)
that my program works on has ever required me to declare 'char Error[128]',
is there a cpp symbol that I can use to #ifdef this workaround. I know that
HPUX's cpp defines 'hpux'; is there some other defined cpp symbol that'll
tell me which os version I'm running. Basically, I need something like
	#if ((defined(hpux) && (hpux_version > 7))
	char Error[128]
	#endif
--
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		  Human-Computer Interaction Department
		       Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
			      Palo Alto, CA.
				   *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: oliveria@caen.engin.umich.edu (Roque Donizete de Oliveira)
Subject: where is troff (otroff) and ditroff on the HP 9000/720 ?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:18:46 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

   I'd like to install Adobe's TRANSCRIPT 3.0 on the HP 9000/720
but I can't find troff (otroff) and ditroff. Are these part of
the standard software (HPUX 8.05) ?
   Has anyone managed to get  Adobe's TRANSCRIPT 3.0 working on
the HP 9000/720 ?
   Thanks.

    Roque Oliveira
    oliveria@caen.engin.umich.edu
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: dial-in/out on HP9000/7xx serial line?
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:29:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpuamsa.28510208
Organization: HP-Sales Office-The Netherlands


  The easiest way to setup a port for both call-out and call-in is with
SAM. No you do not need uugetty (as to why, see "Terminal port access
interlock" in modem(7)).

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
From: andy@ian.stx.com (Andy Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: fortran:    -lisam or -lisamstub or -lisamstubs, which one?
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:24:39 GMT
Reply-To: andy@ian.stx.com
Organization: Hughes STX, Lanham, MD

I ran into this two years ago, and an HP marketeer finally confessed
that you have to get a 3rd-party ISAM package; HP Fortran 77 does not
itself implement ISAM, although the manual discusses it and gives
examples...
_____________________________________________________________________________
Andy Moore            "What a man!"
 andy@ian.stx.com                   - Isaac Asimov, "Misbegotten Missionary"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ld@cup.hp.com (Larry Dwyer)
Subject: Re: window resize automatically changes environment?
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:33:20 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

>                           Why mix the old (LINES/COLUMNS) and new
> (SIGWINCH/TIOCGWINSZ) functionality in a single application?

Not everyone has an X display, so, the TERM variable is still needed.

If one were running X with an <arbitrary size> window and did a telnet
to another system, how would vi know what size to set it's window?  It
cannot ioctl() the connection through which the telnet is established
to determine the window size, so, it uses LINES/COLUMNS.


			Larry
From: wk@cup.hp.com (Wayne Krone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Help: /usr/adm/LOG* files eat my disk
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:18:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cupnews0.1992Apr14.001859.23523
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino

tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist) writes:
: What are the /usr/adm/LOG* files (/usr/adm+/*/LOG* in a clustered
: environment) and what program creates them?

They are the accumulated error records logged by the diagnostics
deamons:

    root  2120  2113  0 19:30:00 ?        0:00 DIAGMON
    root  2113     1  0 19:29:58 ?        0:00 /usr/diag/bin/DIAGINIT
    root  2121  2120  0 19:30:03 ?        0:00 MEMLOGP  MEMLOGP;MEMLOGP;0;0;

:                                             What can I do with them?

They can be reviewed via the tool "logtool" which is accessed via the
command "sysdiag".

: Is it OK to remove them?

If you don't mind losing the data they contain.

:                          They are 50 MB on this system by now, a few
: months after its installation.

If your system is otherwise running fine then the reason they are so
large is probably because the diagnostic device files are not set up
properly.  Examine the script /system/CORE-DIAG/customize to see which
device files should be there.
From: fva@hp5-ws1.oce.nl (Frans van Aken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HPUX Automounter?
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:29:12 GMT
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.

In article <1992Apr07.194613.28281@CS.ORST.EDU> herberj@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (John Wesley Herberg) writes:
>
>Recently w/in this newsgroup, I have read something about an HPUX automounter.
>I haven't been able to find anything about it w/in our manuals or man pages.
>We are running HPUX 8.0 on a 9000/845.  Any info about the automounter would
>be appreciated(i.e. does it come w/the standard dist.?).
>
>Thanks,
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>John W. Herberg	     		      Internet: herberj@prism.cs.orst.edu
>HP System Administrator
>Oregon State University

Correct, the automounter feature is included in the 8.07 release for 9000/700 series.
At our site we wanted it for 400 series but that is not available.
Since then someone over here suceeded in installing "amd" on our 400 series.
Amd is the public domain alternative for automounter.
You might try if for 800 series too.


Frans van Aken
Oce-Nederland BV
Phone +31 77 593777
Fax   +31 77 595450
email fva@oce.nl

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From: cary@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Cary Coutant)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:55:46 GMT
Subject: Re: PA-RISC assembly language question.
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> >I also don't understand why the documentation calls it "%previous_sp"
> >but /usr/include/soft_reg.h defines only "previous_sp".  The 700
> >assembler does not accept "%previous_sp".
> 
> previous_sp is defined in <soft_reg.h>, %previous_sp is defined in the
> assembler.  I would expect that the series 700 assembler generates the
> correct code even though it issues the warning.

This is a known problem.  "%previous_sp" is supposed to work but does
result in the warning.  I'm not sure if correct code is generated,
since it never occurred to me to look.  Anyway, <soft_reg.h> defines
"previous_sp" as 64; this file is included by /lib/pcc_prefix.s, which
is automatically included whenever you use cc to assemble your .s file.
If you don't want /lib/pcc_prefix.s (I usually don't), you can, for now,
define it yourself:

	previous_sp	.equ	64


Cary Coutant
Hewlett-Packard
California Language Lab
From: curt@oce.orst.edu (Curt Vandetta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: DDS (DAT) drive eating tapes.
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:45:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Apr6.174512.27442
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography


  Hello Folks,

  I just recieved a new HP6400/2000 DAT tape drive about a 1 week ago.
  Since then it has eaten 3 tapes out of 6 that I've tried in it.  
  This drive is supposed to be 2.0 Gig, which I assume means that it
  is supposed to use the 90M DAT tapes?  At least that is the tape that
  was shipped with it.  I'm running it off of an HP 9000/425 running
  HP-UX 8.0, I bought some 90M DAT tapes from a copy called ISSI out
  of seattle, a colleague of mine has had great success with these tapes
  (but not on an HP).  Is this a know problem?  Is there a patch?
  Should be using the 60M tapes even thought they are only rated at 1.3G?
  I'm I SOL?

  Thanks in advance,
  Curt
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  Curt Vandetta				College of Oceanography
  curt@oce.orst.edu			Oregon State University

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  "You lose 10 points for doing it with a knee brace."
				-Warren Miller.
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From: herberj@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (John Wesley Herberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HPUX Automounter?
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:46:13 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


Recently w/in this newsgroup, I have read something about an HPUX automounter.
I haven't been able to find anything about it w/in our manuals or man pages.
We are running HPUX 8.0 on a 9000/845.  Any info about the automounter would
be appreciated(i.e. does it come w/the standard dist.?).

Thanks,
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
John W. Herberg	     		      Internet: herberj@prism.cs.orst.edu
HP System Administrator
Oregon State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: chatzi@metw3.met.fu-berlin.de (Andreas Chatziantoniou)
Subject: Changing the Vuelogin Logo
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:11:57 GMT


Hi Folks,
I like to know if it is possible to exchange the HP-logo on
the VUE login with another picture.

The manual says that I have to edit the file
/usr/lib/X11/vue/Vuelogin/Xresources and to specify the resource
Vuelogin*logo*bitmapFile:  name_of_my_login_picture_file

So far so good - but no effects!

Moreover I'd like to ask, if it is just possible to use bitmap files
for an own login screen or is it also possible to use gif files?
Hope to hear from you.
Andreas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,gnu.misc.discuss
From: dgawley@sirius.UVic.CA (Dave  Gawley)
Subject: Re: HP-UX public domain software (update #1)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 03:49:21 GMT

In article <^#@byu.edu>, gritton@alaska.caedm.byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) writes:
|> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
|> 
|> >>[*DOES ANYONE HAVE A WORKING VERSION OF PERL THEY COULD CONTRIBUTE?*]
|> 
|> >Perl is not in the public domain.
|> 
|> >>  15508823     GNUEmacs.tar.Z
|> 
|> >This is not in the public domain.
|> 
|> I guess if you want to keep the politicos happy, you'll have to call
|> your FTP collection "Public Domain and/or Gnu Public License."
|> --
|> James Gritton - gritton@byu.edu - I disclaim

How about the term "public access software"?

-- 
	David.Gawley@ME.UVic.CA
From: bcripe@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Brian E. Cripe)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:22:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Very slow start-up for VUE
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> I'm a VUE novice, but just lately the vuelogin/vuesession has been taking a
> very long time to start up on our 750. After logging in I get the
> copyright banner for about 2 minutes and then the screen goes blank for
> about 15 minutes! And then the windows and terminals come up.
> 
> Previously, all windows came up in about 30 seconds. What's happening?!
> Can someone give things to look for so that I can trace the problem?
> Thanks

I think this can happen if your machine is trying to contact other
machines on the network and they are down.  For example, if /etc/X0.hosts
lists bogus machines, or you have added bogus machines using the Hosts dialog
in the Style Manager, then VUE can spend a long time trying to contact
each machine.

	Brian Cripe
From: mike@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Mike Croom)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:46:33 GMT
Subject: Re: getrusage()
Organization: HP PSO - London, England
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Just the benefit of the ignorant, what is getrusage. Any chance of posting the
man page or some terse description?

Mike Croom                       mike@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com                  
Financial Services PSO                                                     
London UK                        
+44-71-583-6565                  From the country that brought you cricket
VoiceMail +44-344-367538         and real football and sometimes wins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: troy@Schultz.ON.CA (Troy Gutjahr)
Subject: Re: Little D(a)emons appearing!
Organization: Sutherland-Schultz Limited, Kitchener, ON
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 20:35:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.181859.4864@fcom.cc.utah.edu> knechod@stacc.med.utah.edu (Kevin Nechodom) writes:
>I think I have a problem with possession.  I'm not sure.  What I am
>getting is a rlogind or telnetd in my process list when I sign onto my
>machine remotely.  Aren't they supposed to be run by root?  I looked
>them up with LaserRom, but didn't see anything very explanatory, except
>how /etc/inetd.conf should be setup (and my file looks correct).
>

Here's how I understand it to work. When you telnet to your machine, inetd
determines from /etc/services what service you're requesting. It then looks
up the corresponding program in /etc/inetd.conf and runs it. For telnet, inetd
runs telnetd and for login it runs rlogind. rlogind performs the appropriate
file descriptor operations to run a login process.

In other words, when you rlogin to your machine, it SHOULD run rlogind.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: cmerhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Carl F Merhar)
Subject: Set Up HP 425t Workstation
Followup-To: cmerhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Summary: Beginning sys admin needing remedial help
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:21:40 GMT

I just inherited some system administrator tasks and need to set up a 
workstation (HP 9000-425t) with HP-UX 7.05. I began this setup following 
manuals and the system boots, allows me to log on as superuser. I want to
allow other users to log on (already set up in SAM) and get xwindows running.
Right now, it is not networked but will be eventually. Can anyone step me
through a logical set up sequence? I have the HP Sys Admin Tasks manual, you
can just telll me where to go.

Many thanks,

Carl Merhar
Ohio State University
"Redime te captum, quam queas minimo."
From: dhandly@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Dennis Handly)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:14:03 GMT
Subject: Re: datebook problem with memorial day
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Cal Language Lab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

My datebook says "1st Monday before May 31", wonder what happens for me
in 1993?