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From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog & Protection
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:09:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu

CB>You are both making the assumption that it is OK for a kid to come
CB>into my yard for any reason.  If you want to make that assumption,
CB>then you are welcome to.  But it's not OK for me.  That's why I have a
CB>chain link fence (with a locked gate) around my yard (note that this
CB>eliminates the "toddler" coming in my yard).  And if a kid big enough
CB>to climb a fence is dumb enough to climb in anyway with my 2 dogs
CB>barking their heads off at him, then HE DESERVES TO GET BIT!  PERIOD.

Chris,
A 2yr old can climb a chain link fence,but does not have the capacity to
determine if a situation is dangerous or not. A mentally handicaped
child can climb a fence, but again does not have the mental capacity to
know if the situation is dangerous. If in either of these situations the
child is bitten, in the State of Texas you will be held responsible, and
your dogs will be killed for protecting your home. You need to decide if
it is worth it.

Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: Jack.Smoke@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jack Smoke)
Subject: Handicaped dogs
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:31:52 GMT

I received quite a lot of mail from people with handicaped 
dogs after my posting about my 3-legged Border Collie.
Is there a Mailing list for people with handicaped dogs?
would anyone else be interested in starting one?  Would anyone
else be interested in being on one if I started it?

(Dianne, who wrote me about Chloe, I foolishly lost your address.  
please write me again, I have some questions for you.)


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From: dag@control.lth.se (Dag Bruck)
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Organization: Department of Automatic Control, Lund, Sweden
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:01:31 GMT

In <rec.pets.dogs> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
> A woman I met on our walk ask me if she was pregnant.

When Nellie was 58 days pregnant (i.e., 5 days left) a familiy walked
up and asked what HIS name was....
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Missing subject header
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine

In <1992Oct14.194055.8413@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>In article <1992Oct12.121455.25151@rchland.ibm.com>,
>jsimon@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Simon) writes:
>>
>>I've got a 2 year old yellow lab who sheds profusely.  At first I thought it

>I don't know what you mean by "excessive" but labs are shedding fiends -

Actually, I was wondering if this was it myself.  People generally
seem to be surprised by how much labs shed because they've got a
"short coat".  Well, they do, but it's a *double coat*.  That means
they'll shed a fair amount.  Gerald, have you checked with someone
familiar with labs about this?  How much shedding are you talking
about?

--Cindy
--
Cindy Tittle Moore

Terrell's Chocolate Deduction--Hershe (Labrador Retriever)

The rec.pets.dogs FAQ -- all nine parts -- is available via ftp to
pit-manager.mit.edu under pub/usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/*.  There
is a mail server, email me for details.

In loving memory of Betsy: 4-10-92 to 8-19-92...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Major is gone...
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6FF541B24011A6C@itfhome8.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:11:07 GMT
Organization: World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:07:57 GMT



Major is gone.  At 4:20 pm today, I held Majors head in my arms and
watched him pass away.  It was one of the hardest things I have
ever had to do.  I know though, it was best for him and us.  He 
had deteriorated to a point where anything we could of done would
of only prolonged his suffering and ours.  I took the recommendation
of several of you who took the time to e-mail me and suggest that
if I do decide to put Major to sleep, that I be there when it's done.
My wife doesn't know yet (she's at work),  Major was my dog, and 
it was something _I_ had to do.  I thank everyone who e-mailed me
with their suggestions and sympathy.  God bless you.

Sincerely,

Aki Damme
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: MISPKB1@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Re: bloat
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:20:47 GMT

   I have always heard that deep chested dogs were more
likey to have 'bloat'.  The Morris Animal foundation is
supporting research into bloat as one of their many projects.
Eating fast or exercising hard after eating are suspect.
My 2 Greyhounds and Dobe are all 'free' feeders.  Food and
water are available to them at all times.  I feel they won't
have any desire to gulp their food if they know it is always
available to them when they are at home.  They usually nibble
in the evening.  All 3 are spayed bitches the Dobe is 6 yrs
one Greyhound is 8 and the other (ex-track dog) is 9.5.
   A friend lost an elderly Dal to bloat but it also had
other medical problems.
 
In article <Bw491M.E81@well.sf.ca.us>
casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
 
>
>
>There are a lot of ways of looking at this.  The condition of "stomach
>twisting" is called "torsion" or "bloat" and happens in large-chested dogs.
>But it can also, unfortunately, happen in some dogs *without* food even
>being present.  I've never heard of Rhodesian Ridgebacks being included
>in this group.
>
>My 3-year-old Akita gets one meal--at night, when everything is over for
>the day and I know there's not much chance of her jumping or running
>around.  This means that sometimes Annie eats quite a large dinner (if
>she's hungry enough to eat it all).  A friend of mine feeds her Akitas
>two small meals a day instead.  But she lost an old Akita to torsion that
>probably was *not* caused by feeding, but rather was a complication of
>other physical problems the dog had.
>
>There's some feeling too that if a dog in the dog's line has had torsion,
>the chances of your dog getting it increase.  My dog's mother died of
>torsion (they think), but she and Annie were built quite differently--
>she was smaller and not as deep-chested.
>
>I think the only thing you can do (and again I've never heard this of
>Rhodesians) is to make sure that there isn't going to be any playing around
>after meals, that you stick to one dog food which agrees with your dog and
>doesn't cause gas, and that you absolutely forbid "people food" under
>all circumstances, but especially if out and about when the dog is very
>active.  We had a case here in San Francisco last year of an Akita eating
>goodies all day at a barbeque and fortunately the owner was paying attention
>enough to recognize that his dog was in distress and got him to the
>hospital where emergency surgery saved him.  I understand that most dogs
>with torsion die.  I worry about it but sometimes it happens despite your
>best efforts.
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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: pitbulls
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:09:46 GMT

hope@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Sharon Hope) writes:

>Call several vets, find out what involvement their office has had with 
>pit bulls, either in treating the dogs themselves (do they put a larg number
>to sleep for other than health reasons?), or in treating other animals 
>which have been exposed to pit bulls.  Is there a higher incidence of 
>negative behavior from this breed than would be expected by the relative 
>numbers they represent?  If so, to what does the vet attribute this?  Has 
>the vet any positive experience with pit bulls?  Is there a personality
>type which makes a better owner for this type of dog?

My vet says most pit bulls are nice.  He also said that if you get a pit
bull, your neighbors will probably give you more trouble than the dog ever
will.

------------
Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
From: sundar@Autodesk.COM (Sundar Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Taking Sasha with us to DC.
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:23:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


We are planning a trip to DC and I was wondering about weight (dog + kennel)
limits on flights. We are flying USAir and got different info based on which
tkt agent you are talking to. The most consistent has been 70lbs total weight.
When we went to pick up the tkts, the guy at the counter told us that they
don't enforce the limit and he has seen 100+ lb dogs being checked in.

Does anyone out there have experience sending large dogs on USAir's flights?

Sasha weighs 60-70 lbs (we haven't weighed her yet. She weighed 78 lbs in
June and she was 15 lbs overweight for her size. Since then she has been
on a reasonable diet (no yoghurt, her favorite!) and good exercise including
lots of running).

Thanks for all the info!

Sundar
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Re: Hunting Dog Stories Needed
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:48:02 GMT

Dennis:
How long of stories, in what format, over the net?,
I have a 14 month old Weimaraner male puppy who has given us 
several funny trips...one at his first AKC Hunt Test at the ripe
old age of 7 months in Ft. Collins Colo and one at 
Lincoln NE at his water training for his retrieving
rating just a couple of weeks ago (he retrieved a caught-and-released 30"
15# Walleye from the lake instead of his dummy)...at the JH hunting test
he got confused with his tracking training for his TD--the stories as they
evolved are funny.  We also have a funny story about putting those
$8.99 studded vests on quail set out for training--ever seen a pup let
one loose to fly off into the wild blue--costing you a $4 quail along with
the $8.99 vest velcroed to its back.

Oh, well, let me know if any prick your funny bone.  I hesitate taking the
time and effort if they don't seem funny to someone else...you know,
humor with dogs is much the same as with people's kids---sometime the
you just had to be there!
Dana Massey
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: MISPKB1@kentvm.kent.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: dog catalogs
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:27:27 GMT
Organization: Kent State Univ.


   For Greyhound lovers:
 
  Voyagers 1-800-352-3762 (tue-sat) Greyhound Jewelry and t-shirts
      that proclaim on the front to adopt a Greyhound and on the
      back say I'm a Greyhound lover
 
  I also have a catalog called Teddy's Greyhound Gifts If anyone is
      interested I'll post it tommorrow.                                        s
 
  Santa Fe Collection catalog has group secific t shirts ie
  sight hounds also event specific shirts ie tracking, lure coursing.           rity
  if anyone is interested I'll bring in their address too.                      r.
  Pamela
>	      Make a fast friend, adopt a Greyhound!
>
>
 Dancer (9 yr old retired racing Greyhound)
 U-CD Quaint CD TT (8 yr old rescued (pound) Greyhound)
 U-CD Taz CD TT (6 yr old spoiled Dobe who thinks Dancer is mom)
 ps Taz go her first AKC open leg at the Dobe specialty.  3rd
 place out of a class of 19.  114 obedience entries
From: en01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EUGINA M. NOVAK)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: re:dying
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:06:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Martyn--
    I know how difficult a decision it is to need to euthanize a dog.  I've
    had to euthanize three of my own within a year and a half.  They were all
    over 11 years old and various health problems struck them.
    How do you know when the time is right?  Listen to your heart.  You'll
    know.  When Moose is no longer himself, breathing causes him pain and he
    can't eat, then I would say it's time.  If he becomes too weak to hold
    himself up, that too can indicate it's time.  When he is no longer the dog
    you knew your heart will tell you.

    Somebody else posted that you should ask your vet to come and do it at
    your home.  That's what I did.  I didn't want my poor babies to suffer the
    trauma of going to the vet.  I was also the one to hold each dog as the
    technician injected the serum.  Some people can't do this.  I understand
    that it's too traumatic and heart-wrenching.  For me, the last conscious
    thoughts I wanted my dogs to have were my loving arms around them.  It was
    the hardest things I've ever had to do, but at least my dogs went into
    Heaven with my love to support them.
    It may sound callus, but I had the graves dug prior to the vet showing up.
    That way, once the dog was euthanized, the vet helped me lower the dog
    onto its favorite blanket.  It helped me say goodbye to bury the dogs
    myself.

    If you don't have a backyard to bury Moose in, you might want to take him
    to a vet's office with a crematory when the time comes.  Many
    veterinarians offer a private cremation where you would receive the ashes,
    or the option of just letting the vet take care of it.  It's up to your
    personal preference.

    You have my heartfelt sympathy with the trials you're facing.  You're not
    alone.

--Gina Novak
  (en01@lehigh.edu)
From: isjrc@dcatla.uucp (John R. Caruso)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Raising dogs vs. children
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:27:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Communications Associates, Alpharetta, GA

In article <1992Sep29.235741.24609@odin.corp.sgi.com>, bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Bill Glazier) writes:
>  Having a puppy is actually VERY GOOD
> |> practice for having a kid. It'll show if you two can work 
> |> together to bring up the dog correctly, which can then 
> |> relate to children" We never thought we'd hear that
> |> from a Pastor, although that's exactly what we were thinking.
> 
> Excellent advice.
> 
> |> 
> |> Often folks will ask when we're going to have kids (gees, we've
> |> only been married a few months over a year..impatient relatives!)
> |> and then we get into "How puppies are better than children" discussions.
> |> Our favorite responses are:
> |> 
> |> 1) You can't leave a kid alone in a crate for 4 hours at a time and
> |> not get arrested.
> |> 
> |> 2) You can't take off for most of the day and just leave the kid a bowl of
> |> food and a big bowl of water (this is after puppy has grown up, of course!).
> |> 
> |> 3) It takes more than a few weeks to potty train a kid. 
> |> 
> |> 4) Dogs grow up and are nearly mature after a year.
> |> 
> |> 5) Dogs don't beg for fancy clothes, car keys, or money.
> |> 
> |> 6) Dogs don't have to go to school  or college.
> |> 
> |> 7) Dogs don't talk back!
> |> 
> |> Those are a few, we have a whole list. Mind you, we don't mind kids,
> |> we just dont' want any right now!!! :) Lots  of smiles included for 
> |> the humor impaired....:-) :-)
> 
> Reasons why dogs are neat but kids are much better
> 
> 10)  Dogs don't smile at you and make your heart melt
> 
> 9)   Dogs don't look like their owners (at least mine don't)
> 
> 8)   Dogs play a lousy game of baseball (they're great fielders but lousy at the
>      plate)
> 
> 7)   Dogs can't speak English or discuss politics
> 
> 6)   Dogs can't have grandchildren
> 
> 5)   Dogs can't attend your alma mater
> 
> 4)   You can't go out for a beer with a dog
> 
> 3)   You have no genetic similarity to your dog
> 
> 2)   Dogs can't take care of you in your old age
> 
> 1)   Dogs don't like being dressed up in cute outfits

			Teenage dogs:

		Don't use drugs
		Don't get pregnant (at least it's preventable
			without argument)
		Don't drink ( alcohol, that is)
		Don't care what kind of car you drive
		Don't care where you live
		Don't care how you dress or what you look like
		Don't care what other dogs look like
		Don't care if they're "in" or "out" or "cool"
		Don't need the latest clothes or the latest music
		Always think you're the greatest, anytime, anywhere
		Always excited as hell to see you
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: honig@cs.cornell.edu (Sue Utter Honig)
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:12:33 GMT

In article <9F49RB2w164w@penn.Gwinnett.COM> bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins) writes:
>krvw@sei.cmu.edu (Kenneth van Wyk) writes:
>
>what I get reaaaaaaaaal sick of (to the point that MOST of my friends know
>the "speech") is
>"KEEP YOUR PIT BULL AWAY FROM ME" (or "oh, that is a pit bull" etc...)
>
>nope! it is a Chinese Shar-Pei (she is black, with a bone mouth (as opposed
>to a more common meat mouth)
>what reaaaaally urks me is these same dinks can't even TELL me what a pit
>bull looks like....(oh, and I always mention that Spuds McKenzie and the Little
>Rascals dog was one...(sigh))
>

Here's a big part of the "pit bull" problem.  Here's someone who gets
real upset about their Shar-Pei being mistaken for a pit bull.  Then
they turn around and misidentify Spuds McKenzie as a pit bull (Spud is
an English Bull Terrier).  So how can you trust the statistics on pit
bulls?  The first "pit bull" killed for breaking the ban in England
was a black lab!  Vicki Hearne's infamous Bandit is a bulldog cross!

Of course, we can just lump all dogs that fit the "pit bull" type into
the breed legislation going around.  Let's see, English Bull Terriers,
Shar-Peis, Bulldogs, Boxers, Rottweilers, Dobermans...  So where are
we going to stop?  Hell, let's kill 'em all and make our streets safe!

Sorry, I get carried away sometimes...

Sue Utter Honig
honig@cs.cornell.edu
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: The Next Dog
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:28:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <kathy_buetow-131092131420@physio103-1.life.uiuc.edu> kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.150111.20381@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
>glb@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Gina Bull) wrote:
>> 
>Kathy
>(who despite her saying that "Bob" is not a bad person would still like
>to lock him in a kennel run with Refrigerator Perry and see him try
>to fight for food and/or would like to ask him to do something he has
>not been properly trained to do {say, dance the Nutcracker Suite} and 
>beat him with a riding crop when the task is not properly executed......
>.........................................  :-)
Kathy,
I just wanted to say how glad I was that Oreo found such a good home
with you.  She is a very lucky dog.  As for Bob, well, I would
probably get thrown off the net if I typed what I really think, so
I will suffice it to say that I think he is a very stupid, stupid
man and I sincerely hope that no one ever gives or sells him a dog
again.
Linda Mac (llmacdon@uci.edu)
>-------------------------
>Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
>Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
>Oreo's 27 days pregnant...........tomorrow is Palpation Day !!!!!
From: dp@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (daniel.a.parker)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Invisible/electronic fences
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:59:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

I just moved to a new home and need to install a fence for my
dogs: an Afghan and a Saluki.  Does anyone know how those 
invisible fences work?  All I know is that you bury a wire
for the fence perimeter and attach a special collar to your
dog.  

How well do these systems work?  My concern is that it is 
either mentally/physically cruel or just plain ineffective.
I don't want to hurt my dogs or have them run away and
have even worse things happen.

Thanks.

-- 
Dan Parker, parker@ihlpl.att.com              >=-----0 0-----=<
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL          \__(_< >_)__/
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Dogs in Pick Up Trucks AGAIN
	<1992Oct13.172812.8930@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:20:24 -0500

>
>	Joan and I drive a truck.  We have a cap on it, and a 
>soft rubber mat to give the dogs traction.  They ride back there
>on down stays.  We still prefer to have them in the cab with us, 
>but sometimes they get so muddy playing, it's not really an option.
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