From: glenne@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Neuromancer )
Newsgroups: alt.society.anarchy
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO THE LIBERTARIAN LEFT
Date: 5 Oct 1992 21:22:03 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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>1) Without property rights, what happens when two people want to use
>the same item at the same time, and neither is willing to back down?
 
First of all, let me say that I would never be in such a situation.
I would try to see if we both could use the item at the same time,
if I could use it after the person was done with it, and all other
forms of negotiation and attempts at sharing.  If these would fail
I would see if I could make my own item, or obtain it elsewhere.
The bottom line is I would do without it if the other person would
not back down, even if my life hung in the balance.
 
Ursula LeGuin in "The Dispossesed" offers a different solution,
babies and children would be brought up to see that if one doesn't
share, then one doesn't get the item at all.  (Destroying the item
if need be.)  This is similar to Walter Lee's biblical solution.
It's a neat idea, but not something that I'd be for.
 
>2) If they get into a fight, are they allowed to proceed, or will other
>people forcibly break it up?
 
If one could sacrifice one's life to prevent the two from killing
each other, it would be worth it.   Failing this, let 'em kill
each other.
 
>3) Can you use force to prevent others from entering your home, or can
>anyone off the street decide they want to live with you?
 
Let Adolf Hitler move in for all I care.  If I don't resist Hitler,
you must admit that it doesn't escalate.   However, I am not a total
fool, if Hitler moves in, sleeping on a park bench someone becomes
real appealing.
 
>4) If nobody owns anything, is anyone allowed to destroy anything?  Is
>nobody allowed to destroy anything?
 
This is a silly question.  If nobody owns anything, do whatever
you want with whatever you have.
 
>5) What happens when nobody wants to do the unpleasant or boring jobs
>   from working on an assembly line to shuffling papers in an office?
 
My job is to work not only to meet other people's basic needs, but also
to make them happy.  I'll do whatever it takes to make 'em happy.  Doing
this makes ME happy.   Everybody's happy.
 
>6) When someone uses violence, is there organized retribution, and if
>so, of what kind?
 
None.  Violence begets violence ad infinitum....  Break the cycle.
 
>7) If someone is accused of using violence and denies it, is there an
>organized way of investigating and weighing the evidence?
 
Shit happens.  See #6.
 
>8) Are people allowed to own weapons?  Any weapons?  If not, how do
>you enforce the ban?
 
People are allowed to own anything they want.  I'm not allowed to
own anything.
 
>9) How do you handle vendettas between groups that hate each other
>(enemies, rival families, rival gangs, ethnic groups, etc.)?
 
See #2.
 
>10) If a group decides to establish control over property using
>weapons and force, do you attempt to stop them, and if so, how?
 
WL> How else could anyone establish (control over) property?
I'm cool with letting people be assholes.   I'm one myself at times.
I just believe in cutting people an infinite amount of slack.
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The problem arises that me doing all of this stuff for all you
libarbarians ain't nearly going to be enough to make you happy.
There's only so much one person can do ya know.   So who knows,
maybe a couple of you libarbarians will wise up and help to maximize
the slack in the universe (this includes slack for other people, not
just yourselves...  try to grasp the concept.)  I'm not counting on
it tho.....
 
What slack, you ask?  The slack in strings that Archon uses to
pull all of us.
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Glenn                                  glenne@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Put this in your pipe and smoke it!  -Unknown
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