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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Humor [was Re: The volume of traffic here is quite incredible!]
Date: 23 Jan 1993 07:02:05 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In article <1993Jan22.201435.12740@oracle.us.oracle.com>, David Navas (dnavas@oracle.uucp) wrote:
: In article <1jirshINNt6i@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
: rm "/earth/us/Gregory R Block"
: Oh, drat, in a later article you -did- say you were dead.

Yup.  You know, I've died more often than Christ was raised.  :)  Just
did it again, in fact.

: find . -name "Gregory R Block" -print

: I'll get you yet, AH HA HA!  ;)

Oh, that'll never work.  You haven't even searched hidden directories,
yet.  :)

: Yes, and hearing my name mentioned over the neural "net", I had to
: slog through 500 articles just to find the reference.  And it's only
: token.  I'm outraged!  :)

What do you want me to do, write a 300 page theoretical dissertation
every time I mention your name?  You should be happy you're getting
this many plugs, people may actually think that SHADOW has an author!
:)

: If you're attending DevCon, remind me to update you to our new HyperPathic
: ElephantPit transmission system.  For you new initiates, an ElephantPit

No, I'm afraid I won't be there.  Is it a hardware upgrade, or could I
just get the software from a downlink?  You know, I'm getting tired of
changing ROMs.  :)

: If you had been using this instead, I could have (C)aught up with my reading
: in this newsgroup and then just polled the newsgroup for your message (so
: I could respond with meaningless garbage like this).

Oh, sorry.  I promise, I'll never mention your name again.  :)

: PS: Dear fools who read this for Humor content.  You're reading the wrong
:     newsgroup.  Might I suggest rec.humor instead?
: :)

I do believe that there's someone there deleting them from /earth/us,
so I'd avoid that group if I were you.

Of course, I think it's someone from "Customer Service", but I could
be wrong.  After all, BLAZEMONGER _is_ known for its humane treatment
of their guinea... er, I mean their "beta testers".

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: tsuikki@cc.lut.fi (Teemu Suikki)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:51:50 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

In article <C1FGos.4uo@unccsun.uncc.edu> msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight) writes:
>instead of the full blown versions?  The A1200 has a 68EC020, the proposed A4000
>-030 has a 68EC030 and I even heard that the chip in the A4000 was a 68EC040.

A4000 has a real 68040.

>If CBM wants to leave the MMU out of the low end machines (600, 500), fine, but
>no AGA machine (which I consider medium to high-end) should come with anything

A1200 is low-end, A4000/EC030 is medium, and A4000/040 high-end. There should
be a A4000 with real 030 coming.
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From: stigo@ifi.uio.no (Stig Arne Olsen)
Subject: Re: Game content Re: PCheads go *thud* Re: Amigan-whalloping Re: An Amigan does it *again*
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:30:09 GMT
Originator: stigo@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


Anyway, I think his name is Chris Green.
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From: lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: University of Helsinki
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:52:05 GMT

Marc N. Barrett (barrett@iastate.edu) wrote:
> In article <1993Jan22.180342.27475W@viper.edb.tih.no> jorni@edb.tih.no writes:
> >an Amiga 4000 with a 68EC030, 4MB ram and an 85 MB harddisk.
> >
> >That translates to about $1900-$2000 with an exchange rate of 
> >approximately 6.5-7.

>    If the price is true, that would still leave a more than $1500 gap in
> Commodore's product line, between the A1200 and the EC030-based A4000.  

Are you sure that the price he was thinking is street price? Perhaps
it was list price - if it was, the street price will probably be
something like $1500-$1600 in Norway, and if the pricing policy in
Norway is similar to pricing policy in Finland, the price in USA will
be $1000-$1200 (street price).

> and a detached keyboard would be nice.  However, Commodore has a history of
> not marketing mid-range systems, so I don't think Commodore will start
> marketing one now.

Oh? Haven't checked their PC-clones? I bet there have been quite a few
mid range machines...

-- 
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lindblad@cc.helsinki.fi | that dream is my reality
------------------------| they keep me locked up in this cage
          - MetallicA - | can't they see it's why my brain say rage
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Electric cars and Al Gore
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:43:58 GMT

Does the word 'fruitcake' come to mind here?
-- 
Dan Stephenson   das9674@usl.edu
From: ccb8m@beech.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Slashes, dots, and quotes (was Re: Move)
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:45:04 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

In article <1993Jan27.103228.23969@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.143733.8018@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ccb8m@onyx.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan26.023707.3305@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
>>>
>>>But Unix _does_ have separate filesystems.  Because they're all mounted as
>>>part of one directory structure, the user doesn't see "drive" boundaries.
>>>But, some commands, like ln, only work within a filesystem, so the user is
>>
>>Wrong command to use unless you refer to hard links, and almost no-one
>>uses those if they can help it :)  'ln' typically defaults to a soft link
>>which is nothing more than a path substitution variable :)  It works
>>transparently across devices.
>
>I administer two types of Unix box - a 486 running SCO SVR3.2v2 and a couple

I've adminstered BSD/ATT/Ageis/ULTRIX/HP-UX systems, but not SCO :)

>of Suns running SunOS 4.1.  SCO (v2) doesn't support soft links at all - it
>was one of the features added for v4.  As for SunOS - ln defaults to hard
>links; for soft links you must explicitly use ln -s.  Since a _lot_ of

By golly you're right!  I hate hard links and forgot about my 
alias ln ln -s!

>Unix users use SunOS 4.1 and SCO Unix/Xenix, you shouldn't be talking about
>"typical" behaviour.

You are correct, sorry about the 'ln' mistake.

>
>>even 'mv' is smart enough these days to do a 'cp/rm' if you go across a
>>drive boundary.
>
>But it's not always smart enough to preserve link relationships in that case.

If we are talking "typical" behavior, few cp commands allow preservation
of links, correct?  Ergo a cp/rm always duplicates the file.

>
>>>made aware of filesystem boundaries in some ways.  Those ways don't include
>>
>>Your average user need never be aware of the physical structure.
>
>Except when they come up against "filesystem full"!

Yep, but if they are utilizing that much in the way of resources they
aren't average users :)  Quotas help too.  If they are pushing a file
system by editing a text file, you aren't doing your job very well...


Charles C. Bundy IV
ccb8m@virginia.edu
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: WANTED: info on ftp addresses for Fred Fish disks
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:35:54 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

In article <1993Jan23.153943.1@fnala.fnal.gov>, traynor@fnala.fnal.gov writes:
> Hello,
> 
> Could someone provide me with ftp addresses such that I could download
> recent and/or old Fred Fish disks?  I would very much appreciate it 
> if replies could be directly via e-mail.  Thanks.

	Well out of shear laziness I'll post.   The three I like to use are:

	wuarchive.wustl.edu
	isca02.isca.uiowa.edu
	ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
> 
> 					-Mike Traynor
> 
> NNN  NN DDDD    Mike Traynor (ND '86)(Rice '94?) |||     Amiga 500 owner   ///
>  N N N   DR D   Fermilab PO Box 500 MS 221 E683  |||     w/MMR 13 Meg RAM ///
>  N  NN   D RD   Batavia IL, 60510   USA         //|\\    190 Meg HD   \\\/// 
> NN   NN DDDD    (708) 879-6095 [ans. mach.]    /// \\\   14.4Kbps modem\XX/
> 
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:43:28 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <C1FGos.4uo@unccsun.uncc.edu>, msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight) writes:
>Why in the world is Commodore making all of their new machines with the EC chips
>instead of the full blown versions?  The A1200 has a 68EC020, the proposed A4000
>-030 has a 68EC030 and I even heard that the chip in the A4000 was a 68EC040.
>

My 4000 has a full 040 in it, but I have likewise heard that there are
EC040 versions in europe.  It also mentions in the manual how to upgrade
your CPU daughterboard to the full 040 if you have the EC version.


>Sure, it might be cheaper, but by how much?  We should at least be given the
>option.  Using the EC chips makes virtual memory impossible and UNIX, should
>CBM ever get back into it, also impossible.
>
>If CBM wants to leave the MMU out of the low end machines (600, 500), fine, but
>no AGA machine (which I consider medium to high-end) should come with anything
>less than a full-blown version of its respectable CPU.
>

Quite true.


Jim Martin
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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:34:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.195853.7894@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:

 > I used to miss '..' and '.' on my Amiga system.  However, I got over '..'.
 > Use of '/' to accomplish the same thing is actually easier to type.  To
 > back out of my current directory and enter a new one, I just type
 > '/newdir' at the shell prompt.  I like that -- better than '..' now.

BUT why is there no '.'?  I find myself cding to the destination directory, then
including the full path in the copy command anyway, since there's no '.'.  (Well,
I used to, now I use SKsh :)

 > -bevis

-Eyvind

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From: cs_e445@king.ac.uk (Vlod Kalicun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga OS weaknesses
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:43:46 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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richard.m.brack (itch@cbnews.cb.att.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan19.192333.4430@mri.com>, benbuck@mri.com (Benbuck Nason) writes:
: > 
: > While we're talking about this, is there any reason why workbench is
: > not multi-threaded?  Why, if I select Icon Info, or Copy, or Delete
: > from the Menus, do I have to wait to do something else until this
: > action is completed?  Are there plans in the future to spawn tasks
: > to handle all these simple functions?
: > 
: > -Ben

: Well, under 3.0 you can choose Information and leave the window there and
: go do other things so that part seems to have gotten multi-threaded.  How
: about 2.1, it is like this??

If I remember corectly a WB replacement called Jazzbench was multi-threaded.
It was a bit buggy tho.! ;-)
Any news when Jazzbench 2 ? will be out? Lets hope its WB2 drop in and
not 1.3.

Regards..

Vlod
-Amiga Advocate.
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Amiga - Anything else isn't worth considering
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From: cg18ffl@icogsci1.ucsd.edu (Spumoni...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:19:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Dan Stephenson writes:

>Well, I certainly think spaces in filenames certainly has it uses.  Like, with
>an editor I use in OS/2, some of my name would be god-awful to type in
>a CLI, but *easy* to select with a requester window to 'open' the file for
>editing.  That way, it is great for have really nice looking names for files.
>It makes me think of the filename as the document itself, as opposed to
>something hacked togather with a lot.of.period.places.

	A huge ugly filename is only ugly to type into a CLI if you don't have
filename completion. For instance, you could make a filename called "Really
Generic Textfile" and instead of typing the whole darn thing in quotes, you
can type one quote, first letter, TAB, and then the close quote. As in,
"R<TAB>" would render "Really Generic Textfile". A total of three keystrokes.
If more than one match was found, <TAB> would cycle through them.
Of course, the standard Amiga shell does not support filename completion (it
does support the * wildcard (Unix) under 2.0) but there are a few neat Unix
csh clones that can be used that have filename completion and a whole lot of
other stuff. The funny thing about these shells, though, is that they do not
open up their own window. They leech off of an already existing (open) CLI
shell (much in the same way the textreader 'More' does not open up it's own
window, but uses the shell it was called from, if available. Otherwise it
opens up a default window). That way you have both the Unix shell and the
Amigashell running in one window; you can quit out of one to get to the other,
and vice-versa. I'm still not used to it. :)
	Ehhh, I'll take a good file requester any day, come to think of it...

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From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CU Amiga (was Re: amiga a1200.....
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:02:20 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

kpjeacle@maths.tcd.ie (Karl Jeacle) writes:

>abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

>Sorry, way out... Wordworth 2 is published by Digita International, and
>has absolutely _nothing_ to do with Kindwords 3 (published by the Disc
>Company). Most UK Amiga magazines rate Wordworth 2 quite a bit higher
>than Final Copy II... apart from UK dictionary I see no reason why it
>can't be bought direct from US. Digita can be reached via...
>Tel: +44 395 270273, Fax: +44 395 268893.

???  Kindwords 3 (Note the 3 because version 2 was a dire program which
deserved to die and had absolutley nothing to do with Wordworth) _is_ a 
cutdown version of WordWorth.  They are marketed by different companies,
but compare the the 2 programs and you will find that they bear a rather
strong resembelence to one another.

	Mark
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Slashes, dots, and quotes (was Re: Move)
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:27:19 GMT

In article <C19zMI.48u@news.udel.edu> don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) writes:
>
>[Lots of discussion about "..", ".", "\", "/", etc. deleted]
>
>     Of course, the Amiga also has the handy ":" (two fewer keystrokes
>than "cd\" :-) to jump back to the root.

And the handy "/" (three fewer keystrokes than "cd.." :-) to jump back a level.

[ sorry if your sentence structure was copyright, Don! ]

>     Another thing that annoys me about MS-DOS & OS/2 is that when I'm at
>C:\ and type "CD D:\BLAHBLAH", I still have to go to D: to get to the
>directory.

Do you mean to say that OS/2 still carries over this cretinous, two-step,
change drive, then cd, behaviour?  Why?  Even if they can't learn from AmigaOS
(which Jerry insists they choose to ignore completely, since there's
apparently nothing worth noting in it), haven't they at least looked at Unix?
I suppose Win NT will do this too, even if they have fixed the delete command
in it.

>-- 
>Don Lloyd           | Publications Editor, AmigaNetwork |AmigaNetwork Voice Mail


-- 
David Meiklejohn (davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au)
 - PC's, Unix, and networks by day, Amigas by night...
Currently residing in Mareeba, Far North Queensland, Australia
From: bayko@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (John  Bayko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Advocate please...
Summary: Looking for new computer.
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:21:05 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada


    I've decided to upgrade from my current Tandy CoCo3 under OS/9,
and one of the systems I'm considering is an Amiga (probably at least
1200) - partly because I can't find many systems with a quality
multitasking OS that are more obscure (okay, 2 million systems isn't
that obscure...).
    I'm pretty famillier with overall Amiga stuff - it's at least
well supported in Canada. I'd like to know a bit more about how it
feels in actual use. How easy is a "hello world" program that uses
a window? What are the four easiest ways of crashing the OS (be
honest)? Does it still stutter during disk access?
    Thanks...

John Bayko.
From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:04:54 GMT
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Jack Radigan (jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov) wrote:
:
:   Oh, so now you're the standard that should be referenced against?
:

No, Master Jack, you are.

:
:   Thanks, I needed a good laugh today...
:

Glad I could be of service, Master.

:   -jack-
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Stupid Flame War [Was: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles]
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:44:33 GMT
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John W. Lockhart - Product Assurance (lockhart@cbmvax.commodore.com) wrote:
:
: Actually, Matthew managed to summarize your last dozen* posts
: quite eloquently, wasting far less bandwidth.
:

Oops, you called him Matthew.  Prepare to die :-)

:
: You've been squirming
: around in your attempted "rebuttals" to Andy Finkel,
:

It only seems that way to you because you happen to believe everything that
Andy says, and none of what I say.  If you had the desire to actually read
the articles that lead up to my current discussion with Andy, I believe that
you'd think otherwise.

:
: and the only thing
: you've succeeded in doing is giving me the urge to put the
: following line in my killfile:
:      /jerry@msi.com/h:j
:

Go ahead.  Make my day :-)

:
: Now, before you say "so what?" or something of equal value, I'll grant
: you a point:  Windows does provide several services which can aid in
: application-writing.  (If it didn't, it wouldn't be terribly useful,
: would it :-)  There are many trade-offs in their design, as there
: are many in other designs.  Device independence and VM are certainly
: strengths for word processors, spreadsheets, databases, and similar
: productivity apps.  But might they be disadvantages for other types
: of applications, especially given some other constraints such as
: hardware (video display and CPU, for example)?
:

Absolutely.  This is what I've been saying all along, and if you had
actually read what I had said, you wouldn't have felt compelled to
repeat it here.

:
: John Lockhart, lockhart@cbmvax.commodore.com
:
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM NO LONGER #1?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 21:15:54 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan22.185508.7416@gw.wmich.edu> <1jqdr4INN7fo@phakt.usc.edu>

>"Microsoft stock rose 1 1/8 to 89 1/2 while IBM fell 1/2 to 46 3/8.  At
>those prices, the value of all Microsoft stock is $26.8 billion, while
>the value of all IBM shares is $26.5 billion."

Well, time to take my money out of my savings account and do a hostile
takeover of IBM.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: suopanki@stekt5.oulu.fi (Heikki T. Suopanki)
Subject: Re: Slashes, dots, and quotes (was Re: Move)
Reply-To: suopanki@phoenix.oulu.fi
Organization: Unixverstas Olutensin, Finlandia
	<C19zMI.48u@news.udel.edu>
	<1993Jan24.012719.11182@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:29:00 GMT

>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:27:19 GMT, davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) said:

David> Do you mean to say that OS/2 still carries over this cretinous, two-step,
David> change drive, then cd, behaviour?  Why?  Even if they can't learn from AmigaOS
David> (which Jerry insists they choose to ignore completely, since there's
David> apparently nothing worth noting in it), haven't they at least looked at Unix?

Eh? Unix do not have separate "drives", everything is mounted under one root.

-Heikki

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