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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: IPPA phone Number
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:34:42 GMT

In article <1k6b54INN5d7@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> rogers@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>Anyone know what the deal is?  
>
>
>Old Number:   1-800-422-6720
>New Number:  1-619-695-8882
>
The IPPA is dirt poor.  The 800 # probably worked at one time, but no more.
According the the IPPA articles in Paintcheck International, if you call the
IPPA with a problem don't be surprise if they call collect.  


-- 
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HenryC@Panix.Com
Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:55:58 -0500 
From: Alexander Franklin Rose <ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: IRONMAN on Olympic particulars
	<1993Jan25.223344.1@vax2.winona.msus.edu>

Hey kids,
    I think the only form of paintball that could be entered into the
Olympics would be a speed ball of sorts in which camoflauge and even
black guns would be useless.  Regulation gun and outfit colors could be
easily enforced and would take the very far away from WAR.  The
speedball format makes reffing very easy and T.V. coverage actually
entertaining.

Zander of the IRONMEN
From: ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: 1993 Worlds
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:55:55 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Distribution: world
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Hi all!
      Does anyone know when the 93 World Championships will be held?

-Alex
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From: macleod@kub.nl (M. Macleod)
Subject: 1993 worlds/ us-open
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 12:48:06 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, Tilburg, The Netherlands

Expires:5 Feb 93  

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Hi,

The world champ. will be in Sweden in the month of May. Can someone tell
me where in the US the us-open will take place? Thanks.

Bye,
      Mary-Ann.


 
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From: hoens@gmd.de (Guenter Hoens)
Subject: allstar-circuit
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:04:44 GMT

result of the allstar circuit in saga/japan:

j.o.waldner-j.rosskopf 21.15, 21:17, 19:21, 21:9

(that was all i found in my daily newspaper)

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From: pauln@loopkill.EBay.Sun.COM (Paul Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: 1993 Worlds
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:26:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article M16302@mwvm.mitre.org, M16302@mwvm.mitre.org () writes:
> Does anyone know if the USTTA is organizing a special flight or whatever?
>  
>  
> Robert B. Shain                              EMAIL: RSHAIN @MITRE.ORG
> The MITRE Corporation                        Voice: (703)883-5592
> Center for Intellignence & Special Programs  FAX: (703)883-6991
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>  

Robert,
	The USTTA is currently negotiating with a travel agency for special rates.
I've heard that the airfare from New York to Gothenburg is about $500.


Paul
From: x92chandrapp@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: T T in Kalamazoo-MI area?
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:38:29 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi netters,

I was curious to find out if any club plays
here in the Kalamazoo area.

-suresh
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: M16302@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Gluebann Finland
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:05:15 GMT

Do you know the commercial names of these legal glues?  Do you know any
sellers of legal speed glues?  Are they from table tennis companies?
                   Thanks          Sha-in Ping (Shain, Bob)
In article <MOSCHE.93Jan20020244@vipunen.hut.fi>
mosche@vipunen.hut.fi (M}ns Holmberg) writes:
 
>
>Hello !
>
>The Finnish Table Tennis Federation had a meating regarding the bann on
>regluing. Their decision only regards Finnish TT events. I thought I'd post
>their decision anyway, so you can get a view of what different countries
>think about the gluebann.
>
>Regluing in Finnish national competition is allowed until the first of
>April. From that day on regluing is allowed only with glues that don't
>contain clorinate or aromatic substances. For the moment I've heard
>about four different glues of this kind. The idea behind the decision was
>to win a little time and see what the ITTF finally decides (their sending
>diffrent faxes every week).
>
>The Sweds and the Germans should have had similar meetings allready
>and I'll try to find out what they have decided. Meanwhile the Belgians
>have critisized the gluebann heavily.
>
>I heard that the Sweds have allready tryed the non-toxic glues and that
>Waldner said it gave the same effect as the now used glues. That would
>make sence since the glues were on the market before ITTF introduced
>the gluebann.
>
>Ill get back when I know something more, until then...
>
>bye
>Mosche
>--
>==============================================================
>           Mosche Holmberg <> Mans.Holmberg@hut.fi
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Grabel's Law:
>        2 is not equal to 3 -- not even for large values of 2.
>==============================================================
>
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From: rio@me.utoronto.ca (Oscar del Rio)
Subject: How to paint a table?
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:58:19 GMT

Does anybody have any experience painting table tennis tables?
If so, what's the right way to do it? What kind of paint, etc... ?

I have seen in some local clubs that after they re-paint good, old
tables, they are not good anymore... or they are too slow, or the
ball just dies if you put some backspin on it...

Any help will be appreciated... I really feel sorry for those
good, old TSP tables...  :)

Oscar.


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From: hoens@gmd.de (Guenter Hoens)
Subject: european superdivision ladies
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:00:47 GMT

results of the last games in the european superdivision ladies
group A (or B?)

france - germany 4:3 (played in Saint Brice-sous-Foret)
wang xiaoming - christiane praedel 21:12, 21:15
emanuelle coubat - olga nemes 19:21, 13:21
agnes le lannic - nicole struse 11:21, 13:21
wang/coubat - nemes/struse 21:16, 24:22
wang - nemes 30:28, 21:18
coubat - struse 12:21, 21:16, 19:21
le lannic praedel 17:21, 21:14, 21:14

hungary - italy 4:1
england - netherland 1:4

final table:

1. netherland  5  4 1  19: 9
2. germany     5  3:2  16:15
3. hungary     5  3:2  15:11
4. england     5  2:3  12:16
5. france      5  2:3  13:16
6. italy       5  1:4   9:17

the final will bebetweeen netherland and belgium, dont know when.


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From: davidr@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (David J Rosenzweig)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Service Rules
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:44:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


     This is in response to the question about the legality of hiding the 
ball from view during a serve.  As far as I know, if you are playing a match 
with an umpire, he/she must be able to see the ball at all times.  However, 
when playing without an umpire, the receiver must be able to see the ball clear
the server's hand by 6 inches, but then the server may hide the ball on its 
decent and/or during contact.  This is by no means a quote from a rule book, 
but I have been playing for 10 years at the New Jersey Table Tennis Club in 
Westfield and have discussed the matter with several International Umpires.

     In short, if you can see the ball long enough to know that the toss 
itself was legal, the serve is legal (as far as hiding the ball goes).  If
you are playing with an umpire, he/she will be the one to enforce the official
regulations.

				David Rosenzweig
				davidr@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
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From: mosche@vipunen.hut.fi (M}ns Holmberg)
Subject: Re: Glue Ban
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:50:55

In article <4070@creatures.cs.vt.edu> cadizht@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Horacio Cadiz) writes:

>     Can someone post the exact rules for regluing. What is exactly banned?

There are still no exact rules against regluing. The ITTF have just decided
to bann regluing but they have not decided how to do it, or who should control
it. As soon as I get anything on this I'll get back to you, but for the moment
there is nothing about regluing in the rules.

Bye
Mosche

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From: M16302@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: 1993 Worlds
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:17:22 GMT

Does anyone know if the USTTA is organizing a special flight or whatever?
 
 
Robert B. Shain                              EMAIL: RSHAIN @MITRE.ORG
The MITRE Corporation                        Voice: (703)883-5592
Center for Intellignence & Special Programs  FAX: (703)883-6991
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                                            "My other sport is ping pong"
 
In article <1k153mINNdc8@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
pauln@loopkill.EBay.Sun.COM (Paul Nguyen) writes:
 
>
>In article 1k12ibINNlsi@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu, ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all!
>>       Does anyone know when the 93 World Championships will be held?
>>
>> -Alex
>
>The 93 World Championships will be held in Gothenburg, Sweden from May 11 to May 23rd.
>
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
From: pauln@loopkill.EBay.Sun.COM (Paul Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: 1993 worlds/ us-open
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:16:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article 8291@kub.nl, macleod@kub.nl (M. Macleod) writes:
> Expires:5 Feb 93  
> 
> Sender:M. MacLeod 
> Followup-To: 
> Distribution: rec.sport.table-tennis
> Organization: Tilburg University, Tilburg, The Netherlands
> Keywords: 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The world champ. will be in Sweden in the month of May. Can someone tell
> me where in the US the us-open will take place? Thanks.
> 
> Bye,
>       Mary-Ann.
> 
> 
>  

Mary-Ann,
	The US Open will be in Indianapolis, Indiana from June 16 to 20.


Paul
From: davidr@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (David J Rosenzweig)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Glue
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:27:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Newsgroups: rec.,sport.table-tennis
Subject: Reasons for Glue Ban
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Keywords: 

This is in response to the article asking why glue has been banned.  It seems 
that there are certain chemicals (one of which is trichloroethylene, I believe)
in the glue that are carcinogenic (cancer causing).  It is for this reason that
the glues are being banned.  However, there has been news of a few glues which 
are safe and do not contain these harmful chemicals, and so far they have not 
been banned.

I myself have used Butterfly Super Chack with Sriver FX for years, but I am 
changing now, or at least until I find these substitute glues.  Does anybody 
know exactly which glues these are?  

			David Rosenzweig  davidr@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: M16302@mwvm.mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: : Obtaining rubber in Japan
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:48:46 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

I actually found the place in Japan although as logical as the Japanese are
about everyting else, THEY NUMBER THERE STREET ADDRESSES ORDERED BY TIME!
However, you wouldn't buy rubber from a mfg. You wouldn't even buy it one
level down from a wholesaler.  All of the Tokyo clubs sell rubber.  I don't
remember where I got a list of clubs but I believe it was from Tamasu Co.
                                  Sayonara
 
                               Sha-in Ping (Shain, Bob)
From: x92chandrapp@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: service rules
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:36:18 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi netters,

I agree to this completely.
The ball when loses contact from the hand, it should be clearly
visible to the opponent.

-suresh
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: rshain@mwunix (Robert Shain)
Subject: English Table Tennis Magazine
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:55:02 GMT


Subject: Address of English Table Tennis Association
Does anyone have the address of the English Table Tennis Association and
the subscription rate for the USA or phone number.


Robert B. Shain                              EMAIL: RSHAIN @MITRE.ORG           
The MITRE Corporation                        Voice: (703)883-5592               
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Making a Paddle
Keywords: Hinoki
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:42:55 GMT

In article <ckuan.727042610@sfu.ca> ckuan@fraser.sfu.ca (Chiow Min Kuan) writes:

>	Hi, everybody. I recently posted an article to inquire about
>the making of a paddle. I must say the responses were most informative
>and helpful. Thank you.

Have you tried a balsa core-1/32" birch ply faced racket? You can 
get the materials needed at the loacl model airplane store. These 
are fast, light rackets with incredible feel - very nice for a 
looping game. Bob Brickell makes them commercially. 

>	I am curious about a matter. Since the "Hinoki" (the kind of
>wood that is used for most Japanese paddle manufacturing) is such a
>beautiful, and IMHP, a high quality softwood, why is it not grown in
>North America for commercial use?  > >	Can anybody tell me?

I think its a variety of cypress.I find it interesting that the Japa-
nese would use a native Japanese wood because they are the biggest users 
of tropical hardwoods - who knows what some of the wood they use is.




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From: neidorff@uicc.com (Bob Neidorff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Bad Nets?
Keywords: Stiga Clipper VM Net Defective
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:47:04 GMT
Organization: Unitrode Integrated Circuits Corp., Merrimack, NH
Originator: neidorff@makore.uicc.com


We bought two new Stiga Clipper VM Net sets from a reputable mail-order
dealer.  The price was as good as we could hope for, with a top-of-the-line
net set.  Unfortunately something was wrong.  Before I bad-mouth the 
dealer, I would like to know if anyone else has had any experiences
with new Stiga Net Sets recently, good or bad.

The net supports are perfect.  Even the cloth net seems fine.  However,
the round tubes at the end of the cloth nets do not look like the tubes
on the ends of our other Clipper VM nets.  They also do not fit.  They are
too big, and bind at the bottom of the net post.  I wonder if the dealer
substituted an off-brand net, or if Stiga had quality control problems.

The biggest visible difference that I noticed between the new net ends 
and the older ones is that the top and bottom caps on the plastic tubes 
are octagonal rather than round.  Also, the fabric that connects the
cloth net to the tube is plastic, rather than cloth.  Does anyone know 
if this is this a newer Stiga style?

I am trying to work this out with the dealer, but they are being a bit
stubborn.  I will keep trying, but it will be easier if I know more.

Please e-mail directly to me at neidorff@uicc.com any comments you have
on recent Stiga net purchases.  If I can't figure this out, AND I can't
get good service from the dealer, I will contact the US Stiga Rep.  
However, I want to give the dealer the benefit of the doubt for now.  

The dealer is a medium-sized mail-order firm that has been good to me before.
If they really are selling sleezy stuff, I will let everyone know.

Thanks for any comments at all.  If anyone is interested in a summary of
the comments that I receive, please send me a message and I will copy you.

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From: cadizht@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Horacio Cadiz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Glue Ban
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:47:05 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA


  Can someone post the exact rules for regluing. What is exactly banned?
Is regluing itself banned or is it regluing *in the playing area* which
is banned?  Is regluing begore every match banned or is it regluing
before every game?
  When I first read (on one of those Butterfly publications) about plans 
to ban regluing, one of the reasons advanced was the health dangers the
glues posed for the players.  The solution to this, of course, is to
ban regluing *in the playing area* but not to ban regluing itself.
  Another reason advanced why regluing should be banned is the advantage
it gave to offensive-type players.  The solution is to ban regluing
alltogether.

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From: mosche@vipunen.hut.fi (M}ns Holmberg)
Subject: Re: Service Rule Question
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:43:29

In article <4030@creatures.cs.vt.edu> cadizht@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Horacio Cadiz) writes:

>     After the ball is tossed, must it be visible at all times?

In service the ball does not have to be in clear view of the
opponent, not even of the umpire. However if the umpire has
any doubt about the legality of the serv he can warn the player
and for the following offences he shall aword a point to the
opponent. If the service is clearly illegal the player shall
not get a warning but he shall lose a point on the first occasion.

Bye
Mosche
--
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           Mosche Holmberg <> Mans.Holmberg@hut.fi
--------------------------------------------------------------
Grabel's Law:
        2 is not equal to 3 -- not even for large values of 2.
==============================================================

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From: ktliu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kuang-Ting Liu)
Subject: Re: Obtaining rubber in Japan
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:32:28 GMT

     The P.O. Box address and the phone number of Butterfly:
     TAMASU CO., LTD.  P.O. BOX 17, SUGINAMI, TOKYO, 166 JAPAN
     813-3314-9953

     I don't have their street address in English but your friend may call them

to know how to get there.
Kuang-Ting Liu
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From: c85perwe@IDA.LiU.SE (Per Westling)
Subject: European Top 12
Reply-To: c85perwe@und.ida.liu.se
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden
Distribution: rec.sport.table-tennis
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:14:21 GMT

From my daily newspaper [Dagens Nyheter, Sweden's biggest daily newspaper]:

"The Olympic finalists Jan-Ove Waldner and Jean-Philippe Gatien will
meet already in the qualification play in the European Top 12 in
Copenhagen 12 to 14 February.  Six swedes - four gents and two ladies
- is in this years editio of the marathon competition.

  European Top 12 is not quite as hard work as it was a couple of
years ago.  Before everyone met everyone else, which resulted in
eleven games per competitior.  Now the twelve competitors are divided
into two groups.  There everyone meet and the two formost qualify for
semi final.  It will be seven games in total for those reaching final.


GENTS
Group A:  Joergen Persson, Sweden, Mikael Appelgren, d:o, Joeg
Rosskopf, Germany, Jean-Michel Saive, Belgium, Chen Xinhua, England,
Ding Yi, Austria.
Group B:  Jan-Ove Waldner, Sweden, Peter Karlsson, d:o, Jean-Philippe
Gatien, France, Andrzej Grubba, Poland, Zoran Primorac, Croatia, Carl
Prean, England.

LADIES
Group A:  Aasa Svensson, Sweden, Bettine Vriesekoop, Netherlands,
Otilia Badescu, Romania, Wang Xiaoming, France, Daniela Guergueltjeva,
Bulgaria, Olga Nemes, Germany.
Group B:  Marie Svensson, Sweden, Csilla Batorfi, Hungary, Mirjam
Hooman, Netherlands, Lisa Lomas, England, Jelena Timina, Russia,
Emilia Ciosu, Romania."

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From: davidr@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (David J Rosenzweig)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: U.S. Open
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:51:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


     For those who asked, the 1993 U.S. Open will be in Indiannapolis,
Indiana.
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