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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: 3x3 Eyes (Dubbed)
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:26:29 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Oct9.214024.7747@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
 >  
 > The real woory, IMHO, is what Carl will do with the voices in Sazan Eyes.
 > Considering how he wants to handle foreign characters (ie bad accents ala
 > Nadia), I can imagine how all the Japanese and Hong Kong characters will be
 > handled.

The dialogue I'm not too worried about, I know he can screw that up
pretty badly as we know.

I just can't get why he wants to dub this one, since there's no way he
can find a suitable similar voice for Pai. Once you've seen the
original, you know what the voice sounds like, and anyone else that
Carl can hire (since we know he uses somewhat limited options) will
have to raise her voice intolerably to come close. :(

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From: CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: my ignorance..
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:52:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92288.185213CMH114
Organization: Penn State University

Me:

>In message: <39477@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, Profess'nal Agitator said:
>
>>What was the time span for these two anyway?  KOR's 48 took place over
>two years?  What about MI's 96?  Was it longer than two years?               .
>.
>I'm not sure, as I've yet to see much past the first two thirds of the series,
>but I would say that it had covered 3-4 years as of ep. 60. and looked like it
>was going to go seven years. Long, long courtship. :) A number of episodes
>rotate around anniversaries such as the yearly visit to Soichiro's grave, the
>august day that Kyoko arrived at the Ikkoku-kan, and Christmas.
 ^^^^^^
       Autumn! that was supposed to read *Autumn*! Arrgh.

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Quest Laboratories     One Monent, of the Well of Life to taste-
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:58:58 -0400 
From: "Edward D. Lee" <el26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: RANMA 1/2 Role Playing Game
	<Bw44zL.495@nic.umass.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.anime: 

> Last year, a friend of mine was going to do a Ninja High School game
> using the Teenagers from Outer Space rules...

> why not use that as well/instead of Ninja Hero?

I think I saw stats for Ranma 1/2 characters in one of the Protoculture
Addicts for use with Teenagers From Outer Space.  I think it was either
issue 12 or 13. Sorry. Can't really remember too well.
                                                                        
                        edlee
From: michaele@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael J. Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: cheats in anime
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:55:15 GMT
Organization: Chamber Militant of the Ordo Malleus
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Curtis Hoffmann (currmann@pnet51.orb.mn.org) wrote:
> Simple definitions:
>    Anime   -- Japanese produced and directed paint-on-cel animation.
>    Cartoon -- Paint-on-cel animation, usually aimed at children and has
>               little story-telling potential.  Encompasses cel-based
>               animation from around the world, but normally is applied only
>               to North American animation.

As a lot of stuff is computer coloured these days, no cel as such actually
exists.  Disney stuff is done this way and there is a local Sydney mob
doing something like an animated feature every three months using computer
technology... it still looks like the old style animation just the tools to
create it are different...

[Controversy Corner time :-)]

A question here, isn't cartoon realy a subset of animation?  Therefore as anime
is Japanese animation, things like Minky Momo [and Sailor Moon] are just Japanese 
cartoons?  [If so why are you watching them?  big smilie here :-)]

Another spanner in the works: I remember a Mr Mago (sp?) "cartoon" which
was a version of Frankenstien, one of a series of "Classic" adaptations.
Is this a cartoon?  It had a major story line...

Basically I'm not to sure about the way you've worded the above...

Michael
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From: kay@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (K)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Wacky definitions
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:16:45 GMT
Organization: I.A.W.P.P
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In article <81315@ut-emx.uucp> chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken) writes:
>Akira: (verb) To reach such a high level of psychic power you
>can't control it.  Ex:Kyousuke Akira'd and blew up the disco.
>

While we're here:

Tetsuo (tet' soo oh) v. To run head-on into an obstacle, usually on a 
motorcycle or in an aircraft or automobile, and explode violently.

(As someone mentioned after this definition appeared in the UF3 glossary, this
makes Tetsuo somewhat analogous to a Ford Pinto.)

>Ako/Bko thing" (noun) A running fight so destructive you can follow
>it from a distance just by watching for the smoke.
>Ex:Ranma and Ryouga did the Ako/Bko thing through the zoo and all
>the animals escaped.
>
>Dirty Pair event: (noun) any incredibly destructive and casualty-
>causing event which is no-one's fault in particular.
>Ex:"Due to a minor Dirty Pair event, Southern China is now
>mostly uninhabitable."
>
>Bubblegum: (prefix) Roughly equivalent to "Mechacyberpunk-"
>
>Macek: (verb) To rewrite a story according to your own preferences,
>with no regard for the original material.
>Ex:Jim Macek'd "King Lear" and gave it a happy ending.
B>

Robotech (ro' bo tek) v. 1. To take various bits of plotline which are not at
all connected and jam them together until they almost fit into one continous
story.  2.  In missiles, to scatter in a random direction after launch, then 
converge from several directions on the target.  (Thought to confuse/defeat
anti-missile systems.)

Just my little additions...

--G.
yeah yeah don't remind me



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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon .gifs ??
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: net
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:00:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.184622.18862@ntmtv> takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.051059.6682@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>
>Yeah, but 100 JPEGs?  I don't think I've seen a *total* of 100 images
>for any other show, be it Dirty Pair, or BGC or even Orange Road.

Obviously the author of those '100 JPEGs' is a Bunny the Demon Slayer fan.
^_^  The image quality of those JPEGs are on par with those on the USMC
CD-ROM, if that's saying anything. ^_-  Still, there's a few Sailor Jupiter
images...
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From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Robert Woodhead's net address
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:59:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

is trebor@foretune.co.jp
From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:31:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <m029RB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:
=
=I think you would not be taking that view if you LIVED on the Earth 
=during that war! True there were many on Earth that deserved it, but the 
=vast majority were most likly innocent people. WHY KILL them as well, 
=then Char is no better then any other Fanatic of history!

In order to save life on Earth, he had to destroy it? :)



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From: 7514P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Video Girl Ai  OVA #6 (ending?)
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:00:57 GMT
To: Multiple recipients of list ANIME-L <ANIME-L%VTVM1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
 <elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!athena.ecs.csus.ed

u
 !wangf@uunet.uu.net>

     Video Girl Ai #6 was the last of the Video Girl Ai OAV series. Sorry but
I don't know of plans for any more.

                                   --- Chris
From: shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Welcome New Clubs!
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:56:12 GMT
Organization: Cal-Animage


On behalf of the members and officers of the Cal-Animage network, I
would like to welcome our three latest affiliates to the Cal-Animage
family: Cal-Animage Cal Poly SLO (Iota), Cal-Animage U.C. Santa Cruz (Kappa) 
and Cal-Animage North Dakota State University (Lambda).  If anyone
would like to get information on these clubs, or just to say hello,
the E-mail addresses and the contact people are:

Cal Poly SLO (Iota)
Scott Mucci
smucci@nemesis.calpoly.edu

U.C. Santa Cruz	(Kappa)
Philip Brown
philb@cats.ucsc.edu

North Dakota State University (Lambda)
Chris Fogel
fogel@plains.nodak.edu


Mike


P.S. How many of you remember what a Kappa is, and how many of you
remember Snow White and the Seven Kappa?

-- 
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President, SPJA:  2425 B Channing, Suite 684, Brk, CA 94704
Publicity Coordinator, Anime Expo '93
From: dcox@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: lyrics to `Begin the Kirei'
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:17:56 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

How do I show that kanji stuff?  it looks like garbage on my computer...
I have an IBM compatible with svga and stuff..  is there a decoder out there?
I cant read japanese but I would like to look at it as it should look...
thanx...
dcox@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
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From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Subject: Re: MD GEIST
Organization: Tomobiki-cho
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:19:36 GMT

coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage) writes:
>wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai) writes:
>>linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL) writes:
>>>of the first anime I've ever seen and I still don't get it. Apparently it's
>>>really hard to kill this guy since he can regenerate.
>>
>>	I don't think he could regenerate. Just tough and luck, that's it.
>
>Well, maybe a slow regeneration.  In the beginning, it sure looked like he
>had been shot in the forehead.  Later, it was healed, but he had lost track
>of how long he had been sleeping (I think that's what he said).

Did you guys know that MD stands for "Most Dangerous?"  That's about as
classic as BD's "Bad Dude."

--David
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: Three questions...
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:58:10 GMT

In article <15OCT199212031833@elroy.uh.edu>, st1pn@elroy.uh.edu (Rat: a beat-up tan hat wearin' kinda guy) writes:
> 1)  I have part of the Rumik World series/whatever.  The main character 
>     guy is betrothed to a pale, raven-haired, fragile-looking vampire-type 
>     girl, who wants to wipe out the guy's female pal.  What's the title
>     of this?  Is there a site with a script for it, so I can figure out 
>     what's going on in detail?

"The Laughing Target".  It's coming out in English from US Manga Corps.
There was an English-language comic published in the US a few years ago.

> 2)  Say a character charges someone else, sword/pistol/etc drawn.  Said 
>     character might shout "ONORE!"  What might "onore" mean?

A rude form of "YOU!!!", I think.

> 3)  Whatever happened to Sandy Frank?

Last thing I heard, he was making bad dubs of Gamera films, and selling
them to MST3K and the like.  Good riddance.
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From: AR402004@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Steven Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Wanted: OMOIDE POROPORO Japanese script or film comic
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:52:10 GMT

Folks,
     It seems that two brave souls here at Brown University have
expressed interest in trying to put together an OMOIDE POROPORO script,
but they asked me to put out a plea for a Japanese-language script and/or
animation film comic first to make things easier.  Heck, neither they nor
I know if either of these items exist, but I thought it was worth a shot,
nevertheless.  If anything turns up, e-mail me at the address below, or
Woodie Keenan at <st101702@brownvm.brown.edu>.

                          -- Steven Feldman <ar402004@brownvm.brown.edu>
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From: linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL)
Subject: Re: Cool Bad Guys
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:31:15 GMT

In article <L0ZqsB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Benoy Koshy) writes:
> 
>Dastojido from Borgman.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that guy's name Dusty Gead? and isn't he
dead? (twice actually). I like his armor though, pretty nice looking villan.

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From: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: A couple of Questions...
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:42:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.Bw50Mp.91E
Reply-To: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Organization: Purdue Animation Club ESWAT headquarter, Purdue University
Disclaimer: as usual...


 In article <Bw48tB.M9y@ulowell.ulowell.edu> bkeener@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian E. Keener) writes:
>(2) I have seen the Bubblegum Crash movies out in the store, and I saw on one
>	of them the message "Continued from the Bubblegum Crisis".  What was
>	Bubblegum Crisis; a show or a series of movies?  Also, where could I
>	find tapes of it?  Has it been released in the U.S. yet?

	BubbleGum Crash is a continuation of the BubbleGum Crisis series.
	There are 8 parts in the BubbleGum Crisis. Originally, 13 episodes
	were planned. After the eighth one, another company, Polydor,
	took over the production, and changed the name to BG Crash with
	only 3 episodes. No news on any further releases was made.

	General plot is the same for both series.

	But seriously, The BGCrisis series is a lot lot better story-wise
	than the BG Crash. Better songs too.

	Animeigo has the series.

>
>If you know the answers, please mail me at ESUTHERLAND@RCNVMS.RCN.EDU, not at
>	the address you respond to from the newsgroups.  Or post a response;
>	either way.  Thanks.

	P/S: By the way, Brian, I attempted emailing you three times with
	     the address you gave, but they were returned with the message 
	     "esutherland@RCNVMS.RCN.EDU... Host unknown"
---

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From: dcox@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime piece on CNN
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:55:18 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

I liked G-Force....  It was the first of the 5 person teams..  one girl one fat guy one kid and two guys who liked the girl kindoff...
I grew up on that like most people did on StarBlazers....
The animation probably sucks relative to newer stuff....
never saw the original in japanese? is it better?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:33:22 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: A moment of thought... (Maison Ikkoku)
 <1bmsteINNe77@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>

in message: <1bmsteINNe77@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, James L. Brookes said:

||Ben Wai's comments on the lack of interest in Maison Ikkoku at Purdue||

|I'll take a guess and say it's the age of the audience.  IMHO, KOR and
|(definitely) Ranma 1/2 appeal to a younger mind set than MI.
|
|Personally, I never was too interested in KOR (besides the music ;) and
|almost all Ranma beyond the first season (which I enjoy tremendously)
|bores me to tears, simply because the story doesn't move anywhere.
|
|Meison Ikkoku is probably one of my favorite anime TV series, because it
|goes somewhere (even though I havn't seen most of it ):.
|
|Short answer: Your audience has no taste ;-)

While that is less than tactful, it seems to at least partially true. I don't
know, KOR is really hard for me to love, but it's so popular on the net. People
preferring Ranma over MI is understandable, it has lots of silly plot props and
mildly kinky nonsense, and it's a blatant sitcom. Our local munchkins all grok
Ranma. Maison Ikkoku, on the other hand, often elicits cries of "where's the
lesbian sex?" I don't think I was ever around when they were showing KOR to
newbies, except once when they were watching the movie once.

More to the point, I would guess that KOR has more plot toys and wilder stories
than MI, and therefore appeals more to the purient tastes often prevalent in
munchkin crowds.
 MI is perhaps a bit too much slice-of-life to be successful in a group that
thrives on fantasy and unreality.
***I do not mean to offend KOR fans in any way. I am only thrashing about
verbally, trying to find a reason for this disparity.

Mitch Hagmaier         One Moment in Annilihation's Waste,
Quest Laboratories     One Monent, of the Well of Life to taste-
Terraforming Division   The Stars are setting and the Caravan
State College, Pa      Starts for the Dawn of Nothing - Oh, make haste!
cmh114@psuvm.psu.edu
From: egamboa@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Emmanuel Gamboa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Which Gundam movie?
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:03:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

This article's a little old, but I haven't seen any replies...
 
jimn@phred.UUCP (Jim Nevermann) writes:
 
|  Two other questions. What was the small T-shaped object that
|  Char (I think) deployed to halt the planetoid's otherwise
|  unstoppable rush towards Earth? And what was said that
|  changed his mind?
 
1) The T-shaped object was a PsychoFrame sample.  It
   amplified Char and Amuro's NewType energies, causing the
   explosion that altered the rock's trajectory.
 
2) Char felt the warmth from the PsychoFrame's vibrations,
   which was overloading due to people's emotions.  But he
   still feared that "even humans who have this warmth will
   destroy Earth".  Amuro replied that that was the reason
   why they had to show the whole world this "light" from
   their souls. They then briefly argued over Quess and
   Lalah, after which the explosion occured.

Noel Gamboa
(egamboa@ucsd.edu)
From: coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Dreams (was Re: gunbuster ep. 6)
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:12:49 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Shadow Walker's Anonymous

In article <1992Oct12.232559.19910@yang.earlham.edu> marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt)) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.124051.2861@nic.csu.net>, ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg) writes:
>> 
>> Consider the fact that most people dream in B+W  ( I can't think of
>> meeting anyone who has claimed to have dreamed in color.) and
>	I've heard that people with "pophetic"  dreams dream in color. I 
>hope thats not true, because I remember color's in some of my scariest 
>dreams. like the one with the shadow with the glowing red eyes. Actually 
>you probably haven't asked around much, I know a lot of people who have 
>had at least a dream or two in color. It's not that uncommun.

OK, I know this doesn't belong here, and I deserved to be flamed big time
(keep in in e-mail, ok?)

I dream in color 99% of the time.  I can only remember a couple of dreams
that WEREN'T color.  I thought everone dreamed in color until I took a 
psyche class.

If color == prophetic, I'm in really really big trouble.  All of my dreams
are schizoid.

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From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Subject: Re:  Mascot complaint (was Re: R.a.a. Mascot poll)
Organization: Tomobiki-cho
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:28:59 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>
>It really makes me uncomfortable that most people here have no problem
>about having a female (be it either a fictional character or a real one
>like Miss Martin) reduced to the status of "mascot".
>
>And to think I started off this "mascot" business as a joke...

The obvious inference is that it doesn't bother you to have a male
character reduced to the status of "mascot."  But I have a hard time
believing that you would resort to reverse sexism.

IMHO: "Mascot" is not an all-encompassing term.  "Mascot" does not necessarily
define what a person is.  I merely see it as yet another label. I have
no problem with being a "EuroAmerican," "Christian," "UCSB Alumni,"
and "man" all at once.  If someone declared that I was  a "mascot," too,
my first reaction would probably be to be happy.  Mascot does not invalidate
the previous labels, it is mere appended to the list...

--David "That *was* IMHO, you know."  Blume
P.S.  I do acknowledge the "objectifying" argument.  But for some reason,
the word "mascot" doesn't have that kind of connotation in my circle.
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