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From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: American Camcorder - It's Time
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:26:29 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

I have just returned from the Wedding Video Expo, where I heard the
frustrations of users unable to get the diesired features in a camcorder.
I also spoke to a Japanese engineer from Panasonic, who showed relative
indifference to the needs of his company's customers in the special
events line.  Everyday I hear about more and more talented American
workers being added to the unemployement rolls.  Yet Americans are still
flocking to buy consumer electronic devices made in Japan!!!!!!!!

Well, it's time for a change.  I am fed up with the argument that America
will never be able to be a player in hi-tech/consumer and video electronics.
much of the basic research that went into the technology was done here.
The Japanese merely expanded on our technology base and exploited what
they learned -while we sat back and let them do it!!!!!  Shame on us.

I have personally taken it upon myself to gather desired operating character-
istics and features and performance parameters for a special-event oriented
and even consumer camcorders.  I have an upcoming meeting with a major
defense electronics firm.  My purpose is to convince them to re-enter
the video electronics market and challenge the Japanese!  This particular
firm has laid off thousands of employees due to declining business.
But this same firm had a major role in developing the video technology
we now enjoy.

What I want from you in netland are concise suggestions on you would
want in a camcorder for personal or business use.  Please keep you responses
under 10 lines, so I can read them in one screen.  I am expecting a
lot of responses.  My meeting is next Wednesday morning.  This may be
the most important email you ever send!

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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: rkennedy@triton.unm.edu (Ronald E. Kennedy)
Subject: NBC To Use a New Technology at Summer Olympics
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 07:32:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

Just read this in the new issue of TV Technology magazine (July issue).

Here's a short story that was on the front page.

NBC DELIVERS OLYMPIC EFFORT

by Mary C. Gruska

NBC production will have the use of a number of new technologies to aid its 161 hours of over-the-air coverage of the XXV Olympiad.

The presentation of the swimming competition will be enhanced by an underwater  tracking camera developed by Garrett Brown, inventor of SkyCam, in Conjuction   with NBC and Spain's RTO network.  The camera will move along the floor of      Barcelona's Bernat Picornell Swimming Pool, giving a view of the swimmers from  beneath the water line.

"For the first time ever you'll actually be able to see where the action takes  place in swimming; not above the water, as we've shown for 30 years on          television, but underneath," said Terry O'Neil, executive producer of NBC       Sports and co-executive producer of the Olympics coverage in Barcelona.

The system uses a minature camera encased in a small smoked, glass bubble.  The camera can perform every function of a manned camera, including pan, tilt, and  coom.  The camera moves on cables via a hand-powered pulley-type system, which  is controlled by an operator on the pool deck.

The system was designed so it wouldn't disturb the swimmers.  According to NBC, the movement of the device creates negligible turbulence, and the black         exterior of the casing blends with the color of the lane marking, so as not to  be visually distracting to the swimmers.

NBC and RTO shared the cost of the development of the system and will share in  its use.

Nexus is providing operations for NBC, RTO has lined up PESA Electronica SA as  its turnkey provider.



In all a very interesting article on how NBC will bring home the coverage.      There is more to the article but I don't have a lot of time to type up all that was written.

If you get a chance to read the magazine check out the article.

Ron Kennedy

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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Grass Valley DDR-4400
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:56:59 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In response to the questions about the DDR-4400:

The Grass Valley Group DDR-4400 can be configured for both composite and 
component operation. Storage time is either 15 minutes composite or 7 
minutes component. Both formats can be 10 bit, however 8 bit formats are 
supported as well. The storage can be partitioned to store both composite 
and component video. Up to four storage units can be combined to provide a 
maximum of 28 minutes component or 1 hour composite. 
Full random access to material is provided.
Ethernet interface is available for both control and file transfer using 
rcp, ftp, rsh, or rlogin. In addition serial ports are standard for both 
control panel and remote control. Time code or frame count can be used to 
reference material. 4 track AES/EBU 48 KHz audio is available. System can 
be expanded to up to four video channels. 

Contact Grass Valley Group Sales at
(916) 478-3160
Fax (916) 478-3187
PO Box 1114
Bldg. 8G
Grass Valley, CA 95945

Ron Naumann 
Product Marketing Manager 
Recording Products
916 478-3370
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: NBC and poor (?) signal
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:06:06 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul27.010508.12278@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic) writes:
<
<i've been watching the Olympics a good part of the afternoon, and everything
<looks normal to me.
<
<if you're looking for reasons for degradation, think about the fact that
<these are NOT live, one generation to tape, plus they are edited,
<at least another generation to tape. plus, the events are beamed from actual
<site to broadcast central, one up and down, plus another up and down,
<to NBC in New York, plus another up and down to your local affiliates,
<and then on top of all that, retransmission to either you directly,
<or through your local cable company.

Your video quality problem falls apart because the NBC suite is digital.
All editing is digtial.  All video switching is digital.  The video router
is digital.

See the other posting regarding the video problem.
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From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Warning about the Videonics Titlemaker
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:48:10 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

there's been talk about this "gem" on the net many times.  I finally
got one a month ago, after a fairly long wait.  According to all the
talk by the manufacturer's sales reps and some early users, the Titlemaker
was supposed to be a bit of heaven on earth for a low price.  Well....

The first thing I noticed was that it green-shifted the imaged.  Even
looking at a standard color bar showed how much the colors were off.
When I checked things on my puilse cross monitor, I also noted that
it totally messed up the sync pulses  in the vertical interval.  It
took the rock-solid oputput of my AVE5 (essentially a tbc with efx)
and did this.  In standalone, the output of the Titlemaker is clean,
but the genlock really is bad.

I contact the dealer and ultimately sent it back to Videonics for repair.
It was explained to me that I'd have to cope with the green shift with
an upstream color corrector, but the sync problem was probably due to
a bad oscillator in the Titlemaker.  The unit was gone for about 2 weeks
and it camer back TOTALLY UNFIXED!!!  The enclosed note said "Unit within
spec.  No repair necessary."

At the Wedding Video Expo, I talked to several others who had the sync
problem.  They also got no help from Videonics.  I had a chance to vent
to the Videonics rep.  The publisher of Wedding Videography Today, Roy
Chapman, is also concerned about this problem and may publish a caveat.

I'd like to get some emails from others on this.  As a group, we have
power against this company.  I think they let quality control go down
the tubes.  I'm also miffed by the label on their stuff, "Made in USA,
Assembled in Mexico."

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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Grass Valley DDR-4400
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:23:36 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

I have forwarded your request to the DDR-4400 marketing manager. 

You could also call the sales office closest to you in Minneapolis.  The
number is 612-435-1775.

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Newsgroups: rec.video.production,rec.video
From: sweet@adobe.com (Dick Sweet)
Subject: Re: Next Canon L1 question: jell pack batterys
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:32:39 GMT

In article <l6rvpcINNhpn@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
>           ... I got into the subject of batteries. Seems that
>the only battery available is a one hour battery and will cost me about
>$80. However this fellow said that a 6 hour jell pack battery will only
>cost me $200. He made it sound like a pretty good way to go. Anyone
>else have any comments on these batterys?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Eric
>--

A local electronics store (HDB Electronics on Spring in Redwood City) sells
a large collection of lead acid gell batteries for UPS and/or emergency
lighting applications.  I use an 8 AH battery that they sell for around $20.
I had trouble finding the right size connector to mate with my battery
eliminator cord, so I cut it and standardized on a different connector.  I
think that Radio Schlock actually has the right sized connector to mate
with the Canon cord.  I carry the battery in one of those small black
"fanny packs".  The battery charger cost me closer to $50, but it's a
charger that changes over to trickle charge when the battery gets up to
speed.  I can run the L1 for about 2 hours on one charge (with auto-focus
off and some amount of zooming).  I expected a bit better, but I learned
that figure the hard way.  I now have 3 of the batteries, and also use them
with the Sony V801.

Dick

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From: jkrutz@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Jamie Krutz)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Desktop Video for Mac
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:20:07 GMT
Organization: AvailTech

In article <38830003@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> myron@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Myron Cox) writes:
>In rec.video.production, jkrutz@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Jamie Krutz) writes:
>
>
>> Actually the RGB Amilink editor can live inside the same Amiga as the 
>> Toaster.  It will control 3 decks (more can be connected w/software switching 
>> between them) and the Toaster at the same time.  It keeps Toaster transitions 
>> in its edit decision list.  The upcoming Nucleus Electronics A/B roll editor 
>> promises to do the same thing.  
>
>About how much is this RGB Amilink editor?  Is it capable of controlling the
>Panasonic AG series of VCR's?
>

For an A/B roll system Amilink is about $5,000 (plus Amiga and Toaster).  The 
Nucleus vapor system promises to be substantially less.  I've heard good 
feedback on the Amilink.

Later,
 -Jamie
From: long-morrow@cs.yale.edu (H. Morrow Long)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: "Strobing" in Triplecast gymnastics
Date: 31 Jul 1992 11:06:54 -0400
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sparky.cf.cs.yale.edu


In article <Bs95or.Ht8@world.std.com>, dpbsmith@world.std.com (Daniel P. B. Smith) writes:
|> I remember how thrilling it was the first time I saw skilled jugglers
|> juggling Indian clubs "live." I'd seen it a million times on TV, but
|> I hadn't realized that the whole visual appeal of the performance 
|> is completely lost at television frame rates.  I'll bet there's a big
|> element of this in gymnastics, too.  I'll bet judges are watching for,
|> and athletes are FEELING, temporal events with a resolution that's
|> significantly shorter than 1/30 of a second (BTW don't flame me on
|> fields versus frames, please).

I think that the effect is the same with diving as well.
It must be much different for the spectators who are actually in
Barcelona.  The images from the diving competition were clear but
you felt that you were missing out on alot of the minutiae of the
dive (since the dive only took a few seconds you saw it in what -
30 to 60 frames).  Although the image was very sharp ( HDTV -> NTSC)
and generally in focus I certainly couldn't judge the dive based on
what I saw on the screen - it flashed by and was gone before my
eyes.  Watching the slo-mo you could see the flips and turns in 
detail (the beauty and/or mistakes).  I have to say that the slow
motion replay was really good (no or very little motion blur, rock steady
and sharp video image and in focus) - probably due to the high
frame rate and fast shutter speed.  Are artifacts the price that have
to be paid for that or not?

					- Morrow
From: ma@bogart.camb.inmet.com (Malgosia Askanas)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Looking for used Canon A1
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:47:33 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

I am interested in buying a used Canon A1, non-digital.
Is anybody in the Boston area interested in selling one?


Malgosia Askanas (ma@inmet.camb.inmet.com)
From: mao@s23.es.llnl.gov (Nai-hsein Mao 422-3518)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: video editting
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:38:19 GMT
Distribution: rec.video
Organization: /us/mao/.organization

Can someone suggests some reading materials for basic video editting,
equipments, technics, and glossary etc.

Thanks.

Nai-hsien Mao
mao1@llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: LD: places to buy
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 23:39:10 GMT

In article <btribble.0rnw@terapin.com> btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble) writes:
   The MAIN reason for this post is that I (along with some people that I know
   that alreadyown LD's) am interested in buying the Laserdiscs that are used
   in the Laserdisc arcade games, like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, or Hologram
   Time Traveller... does anyone know of any catalogs that would sell this
   type of LD, since they are playable on a home Laserdisc player (not just
   at the arcade)...

As far as I know, a) these CAV discs are collector's items nowadays, not
available in stores and b) one cannot "play" the LaserDiscs without the
custom hardware that was included in the arcade, though one can view the
game paths on the disc.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Re: PRoposal to split up rec.video
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 31 Jul 1992 13:27 EST  

In article <5XXRoB3w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes...
> 
>This seems to get a lot of publishing volume rec.video, and many of the
>articles could take on life in a whole forum of their own.
> 
>Proposal to be debated:
> 
>  Be It Resolved That  rec.video be split up into
>     a) rec.video.hdtv
>     b) rec.video.laser-disc
>     c) rec.video.vcr
>     d) rec.video.technology
>     e) rec.video.television
>     f) rec.video.movie
>      and the creation of other relevant groups
> 
>     and remove rec.video?
> 
>Someone else if they would like, or would want to expand on the resolution
>should call the debate and the votes.
> 
>Takers? opinions? nuke?
> 

This sounds like a grand idea whows time has come.

> 
> 
> 
>Dave Shariff Yadallee
>yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
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>yankee: (n) a person with long, yankable hair


Greg
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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: video cables??
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:24:16 EST
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:

BN>LD video format is composite, not psuedo-component (color-under) like SVHS.
BN>Use of the Y/C (so-called S-video) output on an LD player usually confers no
BN>benefits, as it merely moves the Y/C-sep operation from the TV into the LD
BN>player.  Hook your LD player to a "video" input and save the "S-video" input
BN>for your VCR/TV interlink (not that it buys you much there, either).

Does anyone know whether a 'standard' RCA cable (same kind as used for
stereo cable) is good enough to use as a video cable??

The reason I'm asking is because my Sony R5 came with a right/left RCA
cable for the stereo input, and also a yellow cable for the video that
looks identical to the audio cables.  A friend (who heard from someone,
who heard from someone etc...)  said that your typical RCA cable isn't
made to carry that kind of a signal, so your picture is less than perfect,
hence MOSTERCABLES thick RCA coax cables.

Is this true?  Is my little yellow Sony video cable not up to par,
or for that matter, should I stick to my $12 S-VHS cable??
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From: pichulor@V3.HANSCOM.AF.MIL ("Raymond P. Pichulo")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: RE:Power Antennas
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>Subject: Power Antenna

>        There is a product being advertised on TV as the power
>antenna, which claims to give amazing reception by using the
>wiring in your house as the antenna. It plugs into the wall and
>from there into your TV.

>Any thoughts on whether this is believable?
>        -- Ethan

Thoughts, yes.  The answer is NO!  Any random piece of wire will act as 
an antenna, including your house power wiring.  With TV reception, or 
for that matter ANY radio reception, bigger does not mean better.  A well
designed antenna involves many interrelated parameters, length being one 
of the most important ones.

These things are a gimmick.  A plain piece of wire dangling in the breeze
stands an equal or better chance of as an antenna as one of these things.
At $20, you're getting seriously ripped off as the thing doesn't have more
than $1.50 worth of parts in it at best.  The ad copy i've seen is an
insult to the intelligence of a first year engineering student.  

(flame on moderate)
These devices also violate good engineering design principles.  Any good
receiver design includes filtering of the power line because the LAST 
place you want signal getting into your receiver is from there!  Power lines
are prolific sources of noise because of everything that is connected to 
them.  To deliberately connect an antenna input to something as noisy as
a power line directly contradicts good engineering design principles.  
Marketing claims about this are at best deceptive, and border on being
fraudulent. (flame off.)

'nuff said.