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From: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com (Bill Vojak)
Subject: Re: No Vulcans!
Originator: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:19:46 GMT

abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
>Yes, but I don't believe they ever said that the Intrepid was a Star Fleet
>vessel. I don't know this for certain but I was lead to believe that it
>was in fact a Vulcan ship. If the entire crew was Vulcan, it stands to
>reason that it would be a Vulcan ship. I doubt Starfleet would allow such
>an occurence to happen. Just as there probably aren't any all-human
>vessels either. (Note all-human not all-humaniod as ever starship seems to
>be. But that's another thread!)


 In Strangers_From_The_Sky they go into this in great detail.  Each
 member of the Federation (planet wise) was suppose to provide X number
 of people for Federation service.  The Vulcans provided more than required,
 but very very few entered StarFleet.  This pissed off some people that
 the Vulcans had the easy/safe jobs in science/tera-forming/research/
 diplomacy,  while all the other groups were taking risks exploring
 new world and getting killed fighting wars.

 StarFleet sent 4 ships to Vulcan as a "show of force" to convince
 the Vulcan to get with the program.  The Vulcans aggreed to a
 StarShip manned by Vulcans.  In return, StarFleet agreed to assign the
 Intrepid to primarly science type expeditions/tasks.  The whole move
 was basicly a PR stunt to appease some of the whiners in StarFleet.

 Strangers_From_The_Sky also stated that the Intrepid was the ONLY starship
 to never fire its' phasers/torps at another vessel.  And yes, it was/is
 a Federation ship.

 Now if you wish to take this as cannon/truth, I leave that to you.
 Just don't flame me, saying things like "Gene said. . .".  Believe
 or ignore this explaination as you wish.

                                Bill Vojak
                                Bill_Vojak@stortek.com
				NRA, ILA,
                                Colorado Firearms Collation
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From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Funniest TNG (was Re: WORST EPISODE)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:12:16 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
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In article <C1EzJ5.E4J@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes of the comedic virtues of "Q'pid" <deleted to save bandwidth>.

I just about fell over laughing when the scene cut from Deanna's shocked
look during archery practice to Data calmly extracting an arrow from his
chest.  Truly this was the funniest TNG episode, and I thought it rivaled
the TOS classic "The Trouble With Tribbles" - not quite as downright silly,
but with tongue firmly embedded in cheek.



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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Q Fans - Read Now !!!
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:38:14 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1993Jan21.174830.2994@dct.ac.uk>, mcsbc3maw@dct writes:
>Any Fans Of        Q          out there if so care to join us in
>Alt.fan.q  (Blatant Advertising I Know)

I read alt.fan.q for a while.  Nearly 100% content free, IMHO.

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From: phaedrus@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (John)
Subject: Re: Edward Albert question...
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:54:39 GMT

In article <93026.080405DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu> <DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>My primary question was whether or not he was related to the
>*other* actor with a similar name -- the older Eddie Albert.
>Sorry for the confusion resulting from my question. We return
>you now to your regular confusion...
>
I believe that this Eddie Albert is the son of the one frem Green Acres.

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From: cw@carson.u.washington.edu (Cheryl Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Molly Takes Growth Hormone!
Date: 24 Jan 1993 08:44:19 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

For informational purposes only, no bragging:  my sister and I were
both reading "Cat in the Hat" by age two.  My mother said I asked her
to teach me to read when I was (you guessed it) 18 months.  I was
jealous of the time she spent with books.  

However, if Molly follows the "Walker" plan, she will become 
somewhat average between kindergarden and second grade, and meantime
will have not developed the discipline that the other kids developed 
to actually spend time on her homework, prefering instead to 
collect X-men comic books and other such mind candy.

--Cheryl Walker
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From: noe@cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe)
Subject: Re: DSN:Man Alone Stardate 46384.0
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Comp Sci, Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:36:09 GMT

In article <2FZwXB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> denisf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Denis Fafard) writes:
>I thought that the
>stardate given at the beginning of Emissary was 46388.2 ...

No, it was 46379.1 as shown by a title on screen.  I don't remember
the last stardate mentioned in "Emissary", but I'm pretty sure it
wasn't beyond 46381.9 (i.e. it was before 46382).

>... 'A Man Alone' ...
>The first stardate we see is 46384

I remember 46383 being mentioned, perhaps not in the same scene.

So far as I know, no stardate was mentioned in "Past Prologue".
--
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From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject:  Question about when shows are shown
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 17:12:59 GMT

I'm curious; I notice a lot of posts already for "Ship in
A Bottle" and it's the 27th of January.  I thought that
here in Denver, we got shows early (Sunday).  "Ship in
A Bottle" shows this Sunday, as does the new DS9 episode
(whatever is after "Babel").  Are we getting TNG and DS9
early or late in the week?

Marc
mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu


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From: linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley)
Subject: Re: Odo is NOT hollow! (Was: Re: Odo: conservation of mass)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, UCLA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:25:20 GMT

In a previous article rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com spake...
>How do we know for sure that Odo is not hollow?  His comment that he
>has to regenerate every 18 hours and that he was "in a bucket at the
>time" leads me to believe that his *actual* resting surface area is a
>great deal less than his humanoid form.
>
>As for changing into a mouse... well, when all other explanations fail
>I fall to the only plausable one...

Plausible? No. Odo's violates the conservation of mass...

(1) Statement: Odo's normal form has mass roughly equivalent to humanoids.
    Evidence: Fights that Odo's had (being thrown, or throwing others around).
              A less massive Odo  would get kicked around like a hackey sack,
              hollow or not. A high density Odo would be immobile by others,
              or at least highly difficult to knock around. (Unlike he was in
              the fight with the Bajoran murderer [forgot his name])

(2) Statement: Odo cannot store 'excess mass' as energy.
    Evidence: Mass and energy ARE equivalent and related by the famous E=mc^2
              formula. If Odo tried to 'store' even a small amount of mass as
              energy, this much energy would destroy the station and probably
              wipeout Bajor too. C^2 is a big number.

(3) Statement: Odo gained mass from NO SOURCE WHATSOEVER.
    Evidence: Mouse turning into regular ol' Odo. No nearby mass or energy was
              consumed to make up the gained mass.

(4) Statement: Bag cannot have had the same mass as Odo.
    Evidence: It is safe to say that ANYONE would think it strange to pick
              up a 'bag' (Odo in disguise) and find that it weighed ~170 lbs.
              
(5) Statement: Mouse/Bag cannot have 'simply been made of denser material'.
    Evidence: Compressing ANYTHING will heat it up. Tires/balls get warm when
              you inflate them. Hydrogen in the center of the Sun is heated 
              up enpough to undergo fusion (10^6 K) by compression (i.e. 
              increased density) by gravity. Compressing Odo down to the size
              of a mouse would push his density up to roughly 170-180 g/cc.
              The resulting heat would set objects in the room, the room,
              and people in it, on fire.
               
Conclusion: The writers know nothing about physics/science and don't care that
            they're insulting viewers' intelligence.
-- 
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From: Roger.Breece@launchpad.unc.edu (Roger Breece)
Subject: SEASON SEVEN CONFIRMED
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:22:26 GMT

This is my first post on the net so I hope it's readable.
The January 21, 1993 edition of USA TODAY in their Life and
Leisure section said in the Inside TV by Peter Johnson:
"With the launch of Star Trek:Deep Space Nine, the future
of Star Trek:The Next Generation, syndication's No.2 show,
has been in doubt. Fans wonder how much longer it'll run.
Answer: one more season. 'This season is it's sixth sea-
son , and right now we are not planning to continue The
Next Generation beyond the seventh year,' Paramount Tele-
vision Group chairman Kerry McCluggage told Broadcasting.
He says Capt. Picard and gang would 'move to the bigger
screen' in a series of films." End of article.

It would appear that leaves room for perhaps one more
feature film with the original cast before transition-
ing TNG cast to a long deserved big screen feature.
After seven seasons on the little tube would not most
agree that the writers have explored everything that
can be explored within the constraints of TV before
quality suffers badly? Just MHO.


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From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Lieutenant Commander Deanna Troi
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:56:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: ac.1993Jan26.145653.10574
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Lt. Cmdr. Deanna Troi would be an excellent character if those scriptwriters
would give her as many opportunities as far as lines go as Picard and Data. 
I think that the idea that an empathic counsellor is pretty darn good, 
especially if this empathic counsellor is attractive. 
	Some shows have tried to get her some credit for Sirtis' acting 
ability, but still, the ideas border on stupid. She loses her empathic 
powers, blows up at Dr. Crusher, in "The Loss" that idea would have been 
good on "Days of our Lives". 
	She hears music in her head that can't go away, so that she won't 
reveal what she knows about a guy and his holographic planet. That show
idea was jut downright stupid. 
	Still, I respect the character and the actress of Deanna Troi, and
I hope that some writers will read this and think about what they're doing 
to damage such a skillful role-model on television today. 	
					Thank-you, 
					Al
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Q
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:09:30 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1993Jan22.153138.11643@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> johnnyp@HALDI.LCS.MIT.EDU (Johnny Piscitello) writes:
>	You, my friend, have obviously never seen the episodes "Q Who"
>or "Deja Q", both of which are *excellent* episodes. In "Q Who", Q introduces
>the Enterprise to the Borg, to show Picard that space is not for the timid.
>Damn good, dark, action-packed episode, with a great climax.

>	"Deja Q" is the converse of "True Q"...in this one, Q loses his 
>powers and has to deal with being a weak, mortal human. Corbin Bernstein 
>makes a terrific guest appearance as another member of the Q continuim.

I would disagree that "Deja Q" is excellent; I thought it was a mediocre humor
episode.  Bernson's appearance seemed gratuitous to me, and the story ended
with a silly anticlimax.  Worth watching once... not much more.

"Q Who" is the only Q episode I feel is worth watching.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI

"Go?  Where are we going?"
"Where they went."
"Suppose they went nowhere?"
"Then, this will be your big chance to get away from it all."
			- McCoy and Kirk; Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
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From: jem@cup.hp.com (Jim McCauley)
Subject: Re: DS9:Bajorans use Macintoshes!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:50:37 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

William L Moore (wlm10@cd.amdahl.com) wrote:
: I watched "Past Prologue" again last night.  In a brief scene, Kira 
: is reading a "Bajoran Intelligence Net" file on a computer screen.  
: We can clearly see that the screen font is . . . Chicago!  The 
: default system font on the Macintosh!  (I typed the same text on a 
: Mac and compared.  No doubt about it.)

Unless the computer equipment and its system software (like much of
the DS9 station) are Cardassian leftovers.  Apple's marketing and
sales staff would work well with Cardassians... actually, they
probably _are_ Cardassians.

: This raises a multitude of questions about the computer of choice in 
: the 24th century.  I'll betcha Klingons use PCs.

Whereas the main computer systems on Federation starships are supplied
by Hewlett-Packard -- except for that flakey and troublesome holodeck
subsystem, which is from Sun, of course :)

Jim McCauley, Learning Products Engineer    **   I do not speak for   **
(that means that I write documentation)     ** Hewlett-Packard in any **
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From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DS9 Kira Fan List
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:21:20 GMT
Organization: HNSX SuperComputers, Mtl, PQ

I just wanted to post a reminder to everyone, that I *am*
still accepting names for the list.

But please send me mail, people are complaining about
seeing, "add me to the list" messages on the net.

Thanks all,
-- 
Ellison Chan, Comp. Sys. Analyst   
HNSX Supercomputers Inc., NEC Corp.
E-mail: ellison@SX.Mont.NEC.COM    
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: DS9 rumor *SPOILER*
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:17:39 GMT

In article <9301260356.AA26742@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com> writes:
>I can't say I'd grieve in the least if they decided to toast Molly, Kira,
>and Keiko in one fell swoop.  All the rest of the characters are close to 
>perfect!

Well, if you replace KIRA with >jake< in that list, and perhaps throw in
Nog just in case, *then* you would have a pretty good idea...  :->

Although, Keiko isn't always bad.  If they lay off the "schoolmarm"
stuff and just have her get in a fight with Miles every now and then,
it might be kinda amusing...

Odo and Quark are still my favorite, but Kira and Dax are also nice.

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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Worst Episode 
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: york
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:11:56 GMT

From article <1993Jan22.151649.12716@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, by cs922211@ariel.yorku.ca (JOHN R VANDERWERF):
> Even though Cost of Living is definately one of the worst pieces of Trek
> ever made I have a question.  Being relitively new to this newsgroup I am 
> not sure of the protocol concerning this subject but why when discussing
> worst episodes has no one mentioned IMAGINARY FRIEND!

	Hear hear...when it was originally broadcast, I caught the last
10 minutes.  When it was recently repeated, I didn't even bother watching
past the credits, once I knew what it was going to be...

 TTYL
 Chris

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From: magarell@dimacs.rutgers.edu (christopher magarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Attack of the Creeping Accent
Date: 29 Jan 93 00:03:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1993Jan25.234116.19920@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:

 >First we had a French Captain with a British accent, and now we
 >have a middle-eastern doctor with a British accent.  What does this
 >tell us about the world of the Federation?  France has a British
 >accent, Russia has a Russian accent, China has a Chinese accent, 
 >and the Middle East (or at least the part of it that Dr. Bashir
 >comes from) has a British accent.  Seems like Britain has conquered
 >a lot of the world--or at least their accent has.  :)

     Just because Bashir has a Middle-Eastern name does not
necessarily mean that he is from the middle east.  If that were the
case, then what about Dr. Pulaski?  She has a Polish name and an
American accent.

          Chris Magarelli
-- 

          Chris Magarelli
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Subject: Re: Attack of the Creeping Accent
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 26 Jan 93 09:31:49 -0500
Distribution: na
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1993Jan25.234116.19920@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
> First we had a French Captain with a British accent, and now we
> have a middle-eastern doctor with a British accent.  What does this
> tell us about the world of the Federation?  France has a British
> accent, Russia has a Russian accent, China has a Chinese accent, 
> and the Middle East (or at least the part of it that Dr. Bashir
> comes from) has a British accent.  Seems like Britain has conquered
> a lot of the world--or at least their accent has.  :)

	Well, when I first watch DS9, I could tell he had an accent, but 
couldn't distinguish what it was. But after watching the credits, I just 
assumed that it was a Spanish accent, since his name looks Spanish. Did 
they mention what country he come from?

	(BTW, I kinda like the doctor, he kinda gives the h=show a more 
human feel. (He gets nervous and starts to stutter, but when he is working, 
he gets the job done quickly and correctly.)

Later.......

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opera, so you compromise, and listen to         \RC1DSANU@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
Klingon opera." -Odo, Star Trek- Deep Space Nine \rcollins@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu
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From: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet)
Subject: Re: Kill Troi fan club
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:39:43 GMT

David S. Masterson (davidm@consilium.com) wrote:
> >>>>> On 23 Jan 93 13:34:47 GMT, sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet) said:
> 
[ Stuff deleted ]
> 
> How about:
> 
> 9. "Ship her to DS9 -- I'm someone there would find her... diverting" (perhaps
> the medical officer that's after Dax?).
> 
> Actually, I would prefer:
> 
> 10.  "Riker and Troi consummates the relationship and settles down on some
> planet it somewhere"  :-)
> 

	These sound like winners to me folks. How about expanding number
10 though to read :

10.  "Riker and Troi consumate the relationship and leave the Enterprise
      under possibly friendly, possibly violent terms to possibly live
      together on a planet somewhere, but they can't ever return to the
      show for guest appearances" Comittee

and maybe for number 9. it could read :

9.   "Ship her to DS9 but she has an accident that makes her mute and 
      no longer an empath" Commitee

But these are only suggestions, I'm not the kind of group leader that
forces his ideas on members :-)

P.S. Group update: Membership seems to be up around 5-6 so far counting
     email and posts. If we break a dozen I'll look into the cost for
     some group pins, and ideas for a slogan/motto? How about something
     simple like "Squish the bitch!" or "Electrocute the Empath!".

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