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From: "john mahoney" <john.mahoney@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: ***>>> 486/33 mboard
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:52:21 EST
Reply-To: "john mahoney" <john.mahoney@channel1.com>
Distribution: misc
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

KC>In article <1992Aug7.024742.24870#news.iastate.edu> radrick@iastate.edu (Ric
KC>rmer) writes:
KC>>486/33 Motherboards with Intel 486/33 Chips!
KC>>
KC>>o      Opti or Sis Chipset
KC>>o      ISA
KC>>o      Made by American Digicomp
KC>>o      100% New and Reliable
KC>>o      8 slots (Six 16,One 8,One 16/32)
KC>>o      128k Cache
KC>>o      0k On Motherboard
KC>>o      FULLY tested before shipped
KC>>
KC>>***>>> ONLY $300 + Your choice of shipping (Cod) <<<<***
KC>>========================================================
KC>>
KC>>Contact me directly at this account ASAP.  I have MANY orders already
KC>>and am continuing to process everyone's order as fast as possible.
KC>>I will support these motherboards via mail at ISU as needed.  I
KC>>have installed motherboards for over 5 years and am aware of many of the
KC>>problems you face.
KC>>
KC>>Richard M. Harmer - Iowa State University
KC>>radrick@iastate
KC>>
KC>>

KC>There is no way (other than by theft) that someone can sell NEW 486DX-33
KC>motherboards w/ CPU for $300!  I am a computer dealer and know that the
KC>wholesale price of the CPU itself is ~$350!  Either this guy has gotten
KC>quite a few CPU samples from INTEL or he is taking the net for a ride!

KC>HEADER:USENET
KC>From: kcc@pt.com (Kevin Chalker)
KC>Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
KC>Subject: Re: ***>>> 486/33 Motherboards WITH 486/33 CPU FOR ONLY $300 <<<***

I would definately agree with that statement! NO way these are
legitimate boards/chips. It just can't be done. I noticed a few people
went for the COD on these. I wonder what they will get in their boxes.
You know the old saying, if it looks too good to be true...

John

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From: claudio@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Claudio S. Nascimento;E303)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: MAC LCII BUNDLE IN THE USA or CANADA? HOW MUCH?
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:57:25 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London


Hi,

Here in the UK, Apple is doing a special promotion of a Mac LCII
+ 12" colour monitor for lower than the normal price.

As a student, I can get the educational discount on top of the
promotion, and the price goes to around 2000 dollars (and that
is CHEAP here in the UK !!!!!!).

But it is not cheap enough. I would like to know if there is
any AppleCentre in the USA that sells cheaper than that, I
mean, can give me an educational discount and the promotional
price (if it applies in the USA).

If so, I would consider going to USA to buy the machine. Since
the air ticket costs around 400 dollars, I can spend around
1300 dollars.

So, I am looking for a Mac LCII 4/40 + 12" colour monitor for
around 1300 dollars.

Can you give me the name, address, phone number, and fax number
of a place where I can get such a deal???

Thanks in advance...

Claudio

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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: davesum@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (David Andrew Sumner)
Subject: 486-33 Must Go!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 14:58:12 GMT

Must sell!

486-33
211 MB HD
1.2 and 1.44 MB FD
SVGA Display (.28 pitch), 1 MB Card
2 Serial, 1 Par, 1 Game Card

I've got two of these and a 386 with a similar configuration.
I'm willing to deal or trade. Please E-mail an offer.
From: uswsp@mathcs.emory.edu (William S. Pittard {EUCC})
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: WANTED: Sun 3/60 or 3/80
Keywords: Sun, wanted
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:55:34 GMT
Organization: Emory University


To all netters out there...

I am looking to purchase the following...

- A complete Sun 3/60, 3/80...

- By complete I mean...
	manuals
	Sun OS - if only on drive,
		that's ok, but if on drive
		AND tapes, well that's
		a plus.
	SCSI hard drive(s) 
		Need not be huge, just
		workable.
	System unit w/ working ethernet/serial lines
	Monitor

- of course, this system must actually work! :)

PLEASE respond offers to:
labwm@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu

Thanks!
-- 
Steve Pittard {EUCC}
Emory University, Atlanta, GA 
Internet: uswsp@mathcs.emory.edu   BITNET (non-domain): uswsp@emory
UUCP: { sun!sunatl, gatech }!emory!uswsp
From: jkirk@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Jim Kirk)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Modem
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 03:15:01 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

My sister (who lives in Phoenix, AZ) is getting a new Mac LC II.  I want 
her to get a modem, preferably 2400, but 1200 would do too.  Where is the 
best place she can get one, for cheap?  (I'm talking about a new one.)

Thanks,

Jkirk@Sys6626.bison.mb.ca

(Please email me, as I don't know if I'll be able to read the public 
messages...)
/.s

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;E-mail: jkirk@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: mudrc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Daniel R. Crowson)
Subject: Wanted: Diamond Speedstar or Stealth
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:31:41 GMT

  I'm looking for a new Diamond Speedstar 24x or a Stealth!  Where can I
get the best deals on either of them?  Which one is better and why?


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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: paschal@tscs.com (Charles O. Paschal)
Subject: Re: Supra's Sysop deal! 
Organization: Total Support Computer Systems
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 20:15:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.081649.16464@samba.oit.unc.edu> Denny.Chuang@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Denny Chuang) writes:
>	Anyone have information about Supra's sysop deal on 14.4k modems?
>How much and where I can get it ?  Please post or E-mail me!
>Thanks!
>-=chi-=  chi@watserv.ucr.edu
I would also like to know!
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From: michael.campbell@u2u.lonestar.org (Michael Campbell) 
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: NEW 760M FOR ONLY $899!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)
Reply-To: michael.campbell@u2u.lonestar.org (Michael Campbell) 

                  #####################################
                  *NEW* LARGE SIZED HARD DRIVES FORSALE
                  #####################################

      NEW Maxtor MAX8760S, 676MEG SCSI Hard Drive, $1245.

      NEW Micropolis Model 1588, 760MEG SCSI Hard Drives, ONLY $899!!!!
      (5 year factory warranty).

      Add $21 for second day Shipment!  For C.O.D.'s Cashiers Check
      or Money Orders only.

                  #####################################
                  *NEW* LARGE SIZED HARD DRIVES FORSALE
                  #####################################
                                         
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Re: clarinet service <-- FALSE ADV.
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:06:45 GMT

ClariNet is not advertising the prices, but reporting what we see advertised
in major magazines.  Neither we, nor the providers of this report are
taking any money from the vendors for this.  It is not advertising
supported.

Vendors do have errors in their ads from time to time, and as there are 10,000
prices in the database, it is not possible to phone and verify each one.
The SPR helps you search those ads but it is no more accurate than those
ads, and I hope we have never claimed otherwise.

Of course, with so many prices, it is possible there will be a few entry
errors, however we do not think the number of these is great, and they
are fixed whenever a user reports a problem.
-- 
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
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From: browner@rm1.interlan.com (Michael Browner)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers,comp.os.cpm
Subject: Old CP/M Computer (Zorba) parts for sale
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:40:25 GMT
Organization: Racal-Milgo, Sunrise, Florida

I am trying this one more time, I hate to throw this stuff out or stick it
into parts bin in the garage.

I know there are still some Zorba (old CP/M) machine owners out there.
I have some spare parts for a Zorba, sold mine a few years ago, anyway I
would like to clean out the closet and get rid of some of this stuff, so
no reasonable offer will be refused.  Just please make some type of offer.

Zorba mother board.  Partially populated, fully socketed.
With schematics and documentation (whatever I had when I got my machine).

Canon 2/3 height drive for a Zorba.  Can be used in a P.C., works fine.

Power supply for the Zorba.

For those of you attached to your machines here are those spare parts to keep
them running for a few more years.  For hobbyists here are some parts to
mess around with.

-- 
Michael Browner     		browner@sun1.interlan.com or
(305) 846-6848                  browner@rd1.interlan.com
Racal-Milgo, MS E-112, 
P.O.Box 407044, Ft Lauderdale, FL 33340  
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: fbruno@shrimp (F. Bruno)
Subject: SCSI drive wanted
Organization: Sanders Associates
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 12:42:57 GMT

Looking for a low cost <$100 SCSI drive. My 380meg is down until after
this weekend and I need a drive to do work. Please e-mail me if you are in
the MA or NH area and have a hard drive to sell tonight! Its a tall order,
but are there any out there?
				-Frank Bruno
				fbruno@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com
From: mwprange@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Manfred W. Prange)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Archive tape drive for sale.
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:49:48 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

For sale:

Archive 5945C tape drive (Scorpion/Fastape 60)
Archive SC499 tape drive controller, and interface cable
Archive Scorpion Product Description (User's manual)
Archive Scorpion Maintenance manual (Technical)
Archive QIC-24 Rev D Format Standard (Manual)
Archive QIC-02 Rev D Intelligent Interface Standard (Manual)

The drive is clean and operational, and the controller is configured
to match the default settings. $275+shipping (and insurance if desired.)
Will ship in Archive specified packaging with full padding.

-Manfred mwprange@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: memetral@athena.mit.edu (Max E. Metral)
Subject: Excel 3 Books
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:26:16 GMT

Lots of books for sale:

"Special Edition" Using Excel 3 for Windows (QUE books)
	- Tear out quick reference card
	- covers worksheets, charts, linking to other progs,
		macros, macro programming, integration with
		dos programs

Looks like a good book.  Lots of stuff carries over to v. 4.0.
Great condition.  Probably never opened.  Orig. Price $30.

$10 each including shipping.  If you want many books, we may be able to
work out a deal.

--==<Max>==--
From: teddy@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Teddy Iglehart [Ted E. Bear])
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: notebook for sale
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:39:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

386-16
4 meg ram
20 meg hd, 40 with superstor
vga
2 ser, 2 par, vga, keyboard ports
2 3-hour batteries
case
power supply
6 lbs.

This NOTEBOOK computer is 5 months old.  It is in excellent
condition.  It was used as a compliment to a desktop unit
for a short while but is no longer needed.

Both batteries can be used in unit for 6 hour life.

I am asking $1400 which is 25% depreciation in 5 months.
This should be fair.  I will negotiate to a degree.

send mail to teddy@emx.cc.utexas.edu
From: faith@amiganet.chi.il.us (Fred Drummand)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: BOOK WANTED
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:14:28 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Im Looking for Using Arexx On The Amiga.

If Wish To Sell It, Please let me know

Fred Drummand
Collumbia College
Graphic Arts Major
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: alb@unislc.uucp (alb)
Subject: EXTERNAL 3.5 flex drive with POWER supply and case
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:47:48 GMT

External Floppy Drive
+++++++++++++++++++++++

New

This External 720K 3.5 inch floppy drive is
mounted in its own freestanding case work (light beige plastic) 
and has its own powersupply.

A switch allows you to disable or enable the external
drive.  This feature allows you to disable your B floppy
and map this drive over it. (after modifying your setup if
on an AT).

Its great if your bays are all full of tape drives/opticals, etc.

Best offer will take it.

The 720K drive can also be replace with a 1.44 if you are interested
in the external case.

Or
If you just want the case work and power supply I'll consider that too.

Thanks
REPLY ASAP

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      A. Bentley 
      801-250-0415      

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INTERNET: ...alb@unislc.slc.unisys.com
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From: pfmj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: *WINDOWS 3.1 and DOS 5.0-BOTH $100!!*
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:37:33 EDT
Distribution: misc
Organization: Cornell University


I have the following IBM compatible software forsale:
-Windows 3.1- THis is not the upgrade version- $60
-DOS 5.0- UNOPENED- $55

If interested reply ASAP.
THanks,
Seenu
From: pfmj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: *486 MOTHERBOARD:$300 !!!*
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:23:19 EDT
Distribution: misc
Organization: Cornell University

I Have a 486 sx-25 motherboard forsale. It has an OPTI chipset and
is brand new and unused. It is really a nice board.
I am asking $300 for it.
Please reply ASAP if interested.
Thanks
From: tooyevaa@angus.mi.org (ted ooyevaar)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
Subject: NoteBook's Minisports $195 (new 8-))
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:15:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: angus.094uPB1w165w
Reply-To: tooyevaa@angus.mi.org
Organization: North Star BBS

I still have a few left, for anyone still thinking of getting one,
 specs:  80c88, 2 megs, 640K base, 1.4 meg non volatable Hard DRivE(
Ram disk), 2" floppy 720K, 2 2" new floppies, fastwire cable, 
Autosensing AC charger/adaptor(110V-240V), battery, and so forth, a 
small overview (few sheets) and all commands/features/setup, Speed
is 8/4.77 Mhz, Cga Backlit, has 1 serial, 1 parallel, 1 cga hookup,
and an extenal 3.5 or 5.25 hookup.  Good for notes/lotus/PCL programming, 
and so forth, it's not a window's notebook, but at $195, you do a lot
w/ this notebook, it's 5.9 LBS w/ battery, and is tiny, 12"x10"x1.3"
  Reply here, and I'll reply back w/ any more info you may want/need
   -Ted

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North Star BBS, Royal Oak, MI --------------------------------------------+-
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: jcl4@cec1.wustl.edu (Jeffrey C Lerman)
Subject: FOR SALE: **NEW** Epson LQ-870 printer + cut sheet feeder
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:47:41 GMT



          *New* Epson LQ-870 24-Pin Dot Matrix Printer

I GOOFED!!! The printer I bought is slightly too large for my desk; I need
to sell it....  

The printer is virtually new.  Used only a couple of times.

The Epson LQ-870 is the heavy duty version of Epson's latest 80-column 24-pin
dot matrix printer.  Really nice printer, but I must part with it... :(

Specs:
     True letter quality printing 
     About 1/3 faster than the LQ-570;
     At 10 cpi, prints 300 cps in Draft, 92 cps in letter quality.
 ->  10 different type faces,
     Roman and SanSerif type faces are SCALABLE between 8 and 32 points.
     Outstanding paper handling capabilities:
        Three different simultaneous paper paths
        You can switch to cut sheets without unloading the continuous paper.
        Paper parking is automatic. 
        You can also use continuous paper without having to waste a sheet each 
        time you want to tear off a job.

I don't want to give up this machine, but I must sell...

The mail-order price of the LQ-870 is about $450 _plus_ shipping and handling. 

I am willing to sell for $425, and I will pay UPS charges.



ALSO FOR SALE:   CUT SHEET FEEDER FOR THE EPSON LQ-870. 
                 (It also fits the LQ-570.)

This is Epson's HEAVY DUTY "High Capacity and Envelope" cut sheet feeder. It
holds 100 sheets at a time and it can be combined with Epson's standard
capacity feeder to form a dual bin cut sheet feeder.

     This feeder lists for $192 and it's hard to get a big discount.  
     I'll sell for $110.

Please email me at jcl4@cec1.wustl.edu.

--Jeff Lerman 301-460-0289
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: adam@research.nj.nec.com (Adam Porter)
Subject: Wanted: Trade Adlib for SoundBlaster
Originator: adam@acapella
Reply-To: adam@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:00:26 GMT


Will trade Adlib for SoundBlaster.

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From: brandt@axon.cs.unc.edu (#66 Andrew Brandt)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.wanted,misc.wanted,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Attn: owners of Global Village PowerBook modems
Keywords: modem, powerbook, powerport, global village
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:25:54 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Anyone who purchased the original Global Village PowerBook V.32 modem
(the one that has the external adapter for the phone line) can get
the new PowerPort Gold modem (14.4K bps, V.32bis, V.42bis) for $399.

You KEEP THE ORIGINAL MODEM and GET THE NEW GOLD MODEM FOR $399.
The Gold is totally internal and is the fastest modem available for
the PowerBook.  It has data and fax at 14,000 bps.

Normally, the modem costs about $589 ($799 list price) mail-order.

If anyone has one of the original modems please contact me.  I am
interested in either buying the original V.32 modem or the Gold modem.
You need a serial number to upgrade.

I have no affiliation w/Global Village, I just heard the offer and
really need a PowerBook modem.  Please contact me.

Andy (brandt@cs.unc.edu)
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: mark@trillian.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning)
Subject: Re: DO NOT DEAL WITH BOBS@APLCEN.APL.JHU.EDU
Organization: Simulacron I
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:30:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.201809.26239@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jpersons@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John C Persons) writes:
> I don't really care what method the seller uses, but he or she should
> let the potential buyers know the method.
> 
> By the way, there is really no such thing as a "normal auction," and
> auctions don't necessarily set aside a certain amount of time for
> bidding.  Fixed prices are common, where the first "bidder" that meets
> the seller's price gets the good (go to your local grocery store).
> One example of a true auction with no set amount of time for bidding
> is the "Dutch auction."  The seller starts with a (usually high) price
> and then gradually lowers the price until someone takes the good.  The
> bidding time can be arbitrarily small, i.e. a bidder could stop the
> seller immediately.  As I understand it, the name comes from the fact
> that tulip farmers in Holland sell their tulips this way.
> 
> John
> 

John,

   I don't know where you buy your groceries from, but only a farmers
market allows you to dicker for a different price than what is stated.
Even then, it takes a while to get the farmer to relax and enjoy the
bidding.  Most simply say "Pay it or leave".

   As for auctions, I have been to quite a few.  What you call a
"Dutch auction" is the norm for most of the auctions I've been to.
Only the larger auctions, such as the ones held in Houston at the
Astrodome during rodeo time, start at and raise from a given point.
Usually, especially if the livestock isn't as good as the farmer
thinks, the bidding goes down to a point.  Of course, it may fluctuate
around that point a bit, but usually it stays around the point which
is reached.  As an example, many times here on the net we see these
"Dutch auctions" where a price is set by a user and then is lowered
later because no one wants the item at that higher price.  I, myself,
have recently posted a computer for sale by my younger brother and
was told several times that the price was too high.  I agreed, but
since I was posting for my younger brother I had no choice but to
post and then send all comments along to him.  He lowered his price
this week by $400.00 and has gotten a few nibbles.  So actually, what
you call a "Dutch auction" is really a normal way of doing auctions
(at least to my mind).

   But again, auctions are not what we are talking about here.  We
were talking about allowing each person an adequate amount of time
to respond and that the person selling an object should allow a given
amount of time for all responses to come in.  Any comments on that?
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: cb599@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Robbins)
Subject: Slingshot
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:29:16 GMT


	I am in immediate need of a slingshot card  or equivalent
        2000 card adapter for my amiga 500.
 
	I also have forsale Tandy VM-2 composite monochrome monitor
        for $30 also ICD ADIDE40 for $50,  hard
        drive with no errors $90 also external drive case with HD
	power supply, two full size bays will hold 5.25 full height
	drives. Solid heavy metal case. $30.
 
	Please reply Michael Robbins  
                     (317)856-4615
                     fido 231/240
                     usenet mrobbins@nyx.cs.du.edu
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