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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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>
> I'll make it a *very* textually sexy crontab file...
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Not that I'm ignernt or anything, but what is a crontab file?
Doris
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From:         "tk0jut1@niu.bitnet Jim Thomas"
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Subject:      Disinterested (part 2 again?)

<silly stuff on methods from wannabes deleted>

Graham confuses indexical expressions/language-in-use with
lexicological skills. Presumably one would would not identify a
meaning with a word if they did not attach that word to their

preferred meaning, and none gave alternative meanings.

Older students might, because of advanced readings--especially in the
philosophy of science or in research methods--would likely recognize
alternative meanings outside of their own experience.  Graham, on the
other hand, could be expected to latch onto any meaning that he could
twist to his own advantage.

   >...what can you expect from him ... he's a sociologist.    ;^)

Uh, no, actually, I'm a scorpio employed in a sociology dept.

Jim (stick out your tongue and say 'pattern variables') Thomas
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Neologism (?)
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> >Does this count as a neologism coined by words-L (giggles, actually):
> >      <tc> for SO/spouse/main squeeze ...??
>
> "<tc>" is not a word.
>
> tushar

It's an acronym, like SO.

rashmi
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 09:08:48 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Wage slavery
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I used to have trouble distinguishing between the holiday that comes in
May and the one that comes in September until someone gave me this
formula:

   On Memorial Day we celebrate the dead.
   On Labor Day we celebrate the dying.

brad
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In a previous article, tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU () says:

>>So what did the denizens of the Wormy Apple do to you?
>
>First, I disown a phrase like "denizens of the wormy apple". What they
>did to me was WELCOME me. Jeez, didn't I say that? "Welcome", they said.
	Must have been an off day...either that or they thought you were
a rich businessman.[yeah, right]
>They asked me how I was finding it. They told me that going up the Empire
>State was a thing to do. They were surprised I didn't know where ... um
>say Baxter Street was. They asked me solicitously when I was returning to
>the cultural wasteland of non-NYC. Et cetera.
	Ahh - so you were definitely marked as a visitor, but not as a
"tourist".  Tourists and locals can get the rude treatment, unless they are
attractive to the locals in question, that is.:-)  
>Is this so uncommon that it happened only to me?
Well, not really....  You must have run into a bunch of softies with a thing
for cute accents.:-)

Ruth
Non New Yorker and proud of it

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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:49:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366" <185422285@WILD.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Private vs. Public Schools
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On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:22:00 EST, CROSEN@BGSUOPIE.BITNET wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I suspect the proper usage would be "user unfriendly" rather than
> "un-user friendly."
>
> What do you think?

>Yeah, I dunno what kids learn at private schools nowadays.  Most of them
>can barely string two hyphenated prefixes together...

>G

I will ignore that comment. I puff my pipe in your general direction.


later

alec
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*** Resending note of 09/11/92 02:30


>You're 100, Don?  I never would have believed it.  Nahh - you're not a day
>over 60.  That makes Natalie what now, 29? :-)

Ruth, you are absolutely correct!  I am not a day over 60!
--
>Here Be Dragons
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imes, it seems I am dragon.....
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:47:48 EDT
From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     whose state gave birth to the blues...

Charlie Patten (king of the delta blues) is one of my
favorite bluesbirthers. Ti piace? or don't you listen
to old blues?

-don
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Visiting LA and Chicago
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> wondering what are the white pages  mg

They're available via ftp from ftp.msstate.edu as docs/words-l/List-Stuff/
white.pages.  Phone numbers.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366" <185422285@WILD.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Zen
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>How do you address Zen internet.?  MGarber

With a bow and your hands together.

later

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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:38:32 -0500
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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Thanks, --ggs.

Neal, you and my husband share a birthday.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:07:25 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (59)
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              14, 92 2:22 pm

> 17) GRE (Agnes)


Graduate Record Exam - an entrance exam for grad school, in two parts, with  a
specialized part to do with the specific discipline and a part on
more general knowledge with a maths and a language section; it used to
be compulsory for most grad schools but I think its use has fallen off
in recent years in some disciplines where letters of reference count more.
I wrote mine in a discipline completely different from the one I ended
up in! Just goes to show you...
Agnes
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:23:55 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      "Prescriptivism"

>Feeling a bit silly responding to my own posting, but I wanted to make it
>clear that I wasn't calling Torkel silly or a prescriptivist.  I was talking
>about the part of the quotation that pointed out not only did prescriptivists
>go against common usage in their prescriptions about "disinterested" but that
>they also didn't understand that the etymology was not even on their side.

It is as simple as this: "I have a say, so I would like a distinction to
be preserved. Let's argue it out using the (subjective) notion of what is
sensible and practical."

"The etymology is not on your side" is not the kind of argument a descriptivist
can use, even as a minor bolster to the main argument (which I still don't
know).

Hm. Maybe I am only imagining a "main argument". So let me ask first, are
prescriptions just not allowed?

tushar
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From:         "Elwood P. Dowd" <ELWOOD%UCSBVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Sins, Emilla?

On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:08:00 CDT tk0jut1@niu.bitnet Jim Thomas said:
>>What is sinsemilla?
>If you can spell it, you've never tried it.
>Jim (pfffffft....) Thomas
Gentle Jim,
   I can spell it because I <never inhaled> it.
Peace,
Elwood P. Dowd
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 09:18:26 +0200
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Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz
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  Graham to Natalie:

  >Please, tell me precisely how _you_ would do this poll.  (Excepting the
  >preferred method as you suggested of sitting around for a few years till
  >you heard each student use either word unprompted of course)

  I think it's clear by now that neither of you knows the first thing about
how to conduct this kind of poll. There are two basic methods. The first is to
ask people

        Are you by any chance one of those people with a poor and
        confused vocabulary who believe that "disinterested"
        means "uninterested"?

and in the second method, you ask

        Are you by any chance one of those pompous twits who
        insist that "disinterested" does not mean "uninterested"?
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:47:52 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
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>        Have you ever read Rita Mae Brown's Mrs. Murphy mysteries?  I'm
>thinking of using them as a stepping stone into the genre since I like
>her stuff in general.

Yes!  Is there more than one?  I read the first one and loved it.
It was a good mystery, a good story, and a good southern book.
It was reminiscent of Joan Hess' Arly Hanks books, which I also like.

Karen
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Subject:      New
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I'm fairly new to this list and would like to know if this is a any topic
discussion list?
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In a previous article, EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU () says:

>Posted on 5 Sep 1992 at 20:26:25 by Natalie Maynor
>>> Not to spoil your fun, but this is articulatory phonetics, not phonology.
>>But articulatory phonetics is part of phonology in that a phonological
>>system is impossible without phones.
>
>Natalie, there are phonologists and phoneticians turning in
>their graves as you write. Phonologists very seldom sully their
>hands w/ phones, they are concerned w/ phonological systems.
I can't believe that no one's said this yet, but of *course* Phonologists
sully their hands with phones!  How else hook up to their mainframes
to crunch data and grex at the sysops when the system is down?  Those
office phones can be pretty sticky.<grinning and ducking>
  
>Phoneticians deal w/ the dirty data of real speech. More phonologists
>are starting to look at phonetic data, though, which I think is a
>positive trend.
Yeah, their phone bills.

Ruth
<running away, rapidly>



>
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:00:12 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: A strange find

Maybe a cat with a bird in its mouth.

Evelyn
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*** Resending note of 09/10/92 17:24

>Anne!!!!  Jeeze, couldn't you just settle for a brief fling?!

I knew abh threw a lot, but did not know it was underwear!
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sensemilla
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> Brad clarifies:
>
>    Agnes, I think this is a drug reference.  Some kind of Jamaican
>    cannabis.  Never inhaled it myself.  Cf. the album by Black Uhuru,
>    -Sensimillia- ca 1980:  "I've got a stalk of sensemilla blooming in
>    my pocket."                  --brad
>
> Oh.  Ignore my previous post...I'm only 416 messages behind...guess I'll
> just read from now on.
>
> Tiredly & testily,
>
> //anne//

Yes, you are far behind, //anne//, but you are forgiven.  But BRAD
is not forgiven for spelling it wrong ....  it is SINSEMILLA and it
literally means:  Seedless (that's Spanish, y'all).....  And it
probably is not Jamaican, since I think they do not often speak
Spanish in Jamaica....   but don't ask *me* where it comes from,
I'm only here to correct mistakes.  That is what I *do*.
--ggs
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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> As an Official Bastard just stick me in anywhere there's a gap...  8-)
>
> John "Yea, and a CHEAP one, too!" W.

John, you are hereby notified that you are my official list son (uh, how
old are you, anyway).  As such, you are charged with never (repeat - never)
denigrating yourself again.  With Williams as a name, you are a Winner, kiddo.
Doris Ann *Williams* Smith
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Why I Teach
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> But what about making people who can obviously already write take
> freshman comp?

They don't have to take regular comp.  One problem, however, is in
identifying those people.  A small school can have elaborate processes
to examine significant writing samples.  Larger universities (including
relatively small ones like this) find it almost impossible to do that,
given the numbers and the registration timing.  Taking a student's word
that she/he "can already write" doesn't work.  Students' self-assessments
are often quite ludicrous.  So are high school grades sometimes.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:56:37 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: RICHH: PLOOK!

>	Now, I ain't no mathematician or nuttin, and I can see how you could
>	give 111221 as the next number in the sequence.  But what's wrong with
>
>		3112
>
>	as the next number?  It seems to me that it would make a much more
>	<elegant> progression


Yes, but it would not give a monster. The aim is to get a monster.

tushar
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>> (Did we lose richh?  I've been providing all of these references
>>  just to make him feel at home.  Perhaps Rita was right.)

>	Sadly, he couldn't take it.

I told him that if he posted any more storied like "Barangus" that he would be
inundated with a deluge of marriage proposals, beginning with one from me.

-abh
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: The [t] in often

(Content-free post follows)
I'd always thought that saying "Don Joo-on" & "Don Kwix-ote" was just a
subtle way of letting the world know that you were an English Major!
Although Don Joo-on could mean you majored in Korean Studies, I suppose... 8-)
Here it is Primary Election day, and I just remembered that I'm out of wine -
to quote someone, "Do they expect me to vote for these clowns SOBER?"
Quote Of The Day:  "I don't hate women, it's just that no man ever broke my
heart!"
Joke Of The Day:  What has six balls and screws you twice a week?  The
Arizona lottery.

John (What can you expect when you spend most of a holiday weekend in an ER?) W.
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From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366" <185422285@WILD.VILL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Prison camp? was Plumbing woes
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>>For Neal and Alec (and Ann):
>>Re: Fay Vincent announcing his decision to quit for the "good of baseball".
>>This was on the radio today: What they need to do is get the Phillies to quit
>>for the good of baseball.

>>rashmi

 >	Whoaaaa, watch your back, Rashmi.  Two of the addressees of your note
 >	are devotees of the Phils.

 >	But I understand why you'd say that.

>neal, whose red cap at the clambake bore a white script 'P'.
Thanks Neal, Part of being a Phils fan is living with the good,bad and ugly
years. They will return, for now watch the new talent. The new talent is
showing some stuff.

later

alec
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:33:51 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: The wonders of telecom

>I thought the question was whether the person being discussed was also
>included. Privacy has'nt much to do with it.
           ~~~~~~~

Sorry, I meant the question of public/private.

(I also meant hasn't.)

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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
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On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:27:20 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> > Your part of the world must be more <common> than mine, because people
> > here generally know the difference.
>
> Depends on who you hang around with.  The people I hang around with
> use "disinterested" to mean "unbiased."  But I would guess that we are
> a minority in this country.

Me too, but you appeared to be arguing the opposite meaning.

> >  And pleading to antiquity isn't
> > a valid rationalisation for using a meaning of a word totally
> > counter to the more common common understanding.
>
> I couldn't agree more fully!  I've argued this point a thousand times!
> I certainly wasn't pleading to antiquity for anything!
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

That's strange; you appeared to be arguing the opposite.

G
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: family
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> By all means, Jill, your silver haired daddy should certainly share his
> good fortune with his daughter.  Between you and me, you might manage to
> get tc/sw to put in a good word for you; she did a good job of getting a
> jaguar pretty fast.  If you get a car out of him, that'll make me happy.
> As his sister, I don't imagine I stand much of a chance for a car, but
> he might have something smaller that he could share with me - perhaps
> something new for my coffee table.
>
> BTW where *is* your papa?
>
> Love,
>  Auntie Doris

I'm right here, just lurking the last couple of days, because
<The Siamese twins I've parted, but I can't get started with you>
.......
Must be my mood.... but I have *seen* all the things that everyone
has been saying about me (which is why <ts> is in such a vile
mood, incidentally, because everyone is talking about *present
company*>......
I'm beginning to suspect that what Jill needs is not a <daddy> but
a <sugar-daddy> and if you think for a minute that <tc> would
put in a good word for *any* other woman, hold on......
........
I'm going home now to watch a vcr movie with you know who.....
tomorrow....
'night, Jill... 'night, sis...  'night <ts> you sweet little
sugar-dumplings you.....  kissie kissie
--ggs
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hopefully

>> > Because it's used incorrectly so often. Now, people often say "hopefully
>> > you will like the explanation." A correct usage of the word would be "she
>> > -abh

>> What abh said.  <Hopefully> is an adverb and needs to be used as one.
>> Doris
>
>And it's not an adverb in the example above?  If not, what is it?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

It's an adverb--but the adverbial equivalent of that old bugaboo,
the nominativus pendens--i.e. a dangling adverb


Dangling instead of angling
-Mka
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