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From: keith@bain3.bain.oz.au (Keith Brinck)
Subject: Analyst/Programmer vacancies (two positions)
Organization: Bain & Company, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:43:07 GMT

The DB Bain Group Services Information Technology Group (ITG) provides
computing services to both Deutsche Bank and Bain & Company, and currently has
the following vacancies for analyst/programmers:
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Unix/C/RDB analyst/programmer
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The Information Technology Group seeks an experienced analyst/programmer to act
as a consultant to other areas of Deutsche Bank and Bain & Company.  As such it
will be their role to determine user requirements, recommend solutions, and
implement them.  The appointee can expect to work on a number of short to
medium-term projects concurrently, either individually or directing one or more
other team members.

The computing environment includes a number of Sun workstations, a SparcServer
10, a Pyramid 9810, an RS6000/530 and some NCD X-terminals.  Although these are
the primary platforms on which the position will be based, all DB/Bain PC's,
workstations and minis are networked together so some contact might be required
with PC's, HP3000's, AS400's and a Tandem VLX.

Applicants should be experienced in C within a UNIX environment, and have had
significant experience with a major relational database system.  It is
anticipated that the successful applicant will have tertiary qualifications
plus a minimum of 5 years industry experience.  Knowledge of Sybase, Powerhouse
and/or the investment banking industry in general would be an advantage.

Salary is negotiable.

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HP3000 MPE/COBOL/IMAGE analyst/programmer
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The Equities Division of Bain & Company seeks an experienced HP3000/COBOL/IMAGE
analyst/programmer to join the team supporting its DBCA implementation.  The
appointee can expect to spend 40% of their time on support of the existing
system and 60% on development of new systems.  The position also involves
periodically being on call for after-hours support.

The computing environment consists of a HP3000/947, a HP3000/70 and a HP3000/52
in Sydney, and a Micro 3000 in London.

Applicants should be experienced in HP3000 COBOL, IMAGE and VIEW, and in HP3000
MPE JCL.  It is anticipated that the successful candidate will have a minimum of
5 years experience in the above areas.  Knowledge of DBCA, Powerhouse and/or the
stockbroking industry would be an advantage.

Salary is negotiable.

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Applications, which will be treated in confidence, should be forwarded to:

                The Personnel Manager
		Bain and Company Limited
		GPO Box 7033
		Sydney, NSW 2001

Inquiries may be directed to myself (details in .sig)

-- 
Keith Brinck					E-mail: keith@bain3.bain.oz.au
Information Technology Group
DB Bain Group Services Ltd			Phone : (61-2)258-1622
225 George St, Sydney 2000, Australia.		Fax   : (61-2)258-1128
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
From: psoille@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Pierre Soille)
Subject:  Scientific Typewriting
Originator: psoille@bondage.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Reply-To: psoille@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Pierre Soille)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:37:52 GMT





You have scientific articles, books, etc. to type?
Do not hesitate to call experienced Latex typist on
(02)412 20 24 (Sydney area), or write e-mail to 
psoille@syd.dms.csiro.au. System and printer available.
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
From: smac@iconix.oz.au (Stuart McCormack)
Subject: Enthusiastic UNIX sysadmin
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:32:48 GMT

One of our highly valued and prestigious customers ( who
may be  reading this ) is getting ready to move from the
1960's into  an Open Systems environment and to do it in
a big  way.   They don't know a whole lot about UNIX and
are looking for someone who does.

This is a collar and tie environment we're talking here,
but a  pretty good one from what I've seen and I believe
that this  job constitutes  an excellent  opportunity to
get in  at the  ground floor  and have  the elevator  to
yourself; which button you can reach depends on you.

While this is to be a reasonably technical position very
little  development   work  is   anticipated.    Minimum
requirement  is   a  good   working  knowledge  of  UNIX
administration plus inter-personal skills.

Additional  brownie  points  will  be  awarded  for  the
following:

    -   C programming skills

    -   Networking under TCP-IP

    -   PC and MS-DOS experience ( can't hurt )

    -   General commercial experience

This  is  an  excellent  opportunity  for  someone  more
interested in  the management  rather than the technical
side of  reasonably large,  distributed systems.  If you
believe you  meet the spec then email, fax or smail me a
brief CV.  All CV's, plus the occasional recommendation,
will be passed on to the client.

Before anyone  sets out  to roast me, I should point out
that this  process is being undertaken at no cost to the
customer and  simply as  a favour. ( Slither, slither. )
Agencies need not apply.

Stuart McCormack
Technical Director
Iconix Pty Ltd
851 Dandenong Rd
East Malvern 3145
PH:  (03) 571 4244
FAX: (03) 571 5346
From: pierre@csis.dit.csiro.au (Peter Nikitser)
Newsgroups: aus.jobs
Subject: CSIRO Vacation Scholarships
Keywords: Scholarships Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:18:11 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology

CSIRO

DIVISION OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

VACATION SCHOLARSHIPS 1992/93
_______________________________________________

SYDNEY

The Sydney Laboratory of the CSIRO Division of Information Technology has
several opportunities for students to undertake Vacation Scholarships.  The
Division is offering a number of Vacation Scholarships for outstanding
students who would like to spend a summer working on research topics of
interest to the Division's Sydney Laboratory which is located at North
Ryde.

We conduct research in the area of Knowledge Based Systems and if you would
like further information about the research area please contact:

    Dr. Paul Guignard
    telephone: (02) 887 9370
    email: paul.guignard@syd.dit.csiro.au

Applications are invited from currently enrolled undergraduate students who
will have completed not less than three years of full-time undergraduate
study by the end of 1992.  Scholarship holders will receive a weekly
allowance of $400 for a minimum period of eight weeks over the December to
February period.  In addition, if you are not a local resident, CSIRO will
cover the cost of travel from and to the scholar's home at the beginning
and end of the scholarship period.

Students who wish to be considered for the award of a vacation scholarship
in 1992/93 should lodge applications as soon as possible with:

    The Chief,
    CSIRO Division of Information Technology,
    Sydney Laboratory,
    PO Box 1599, Macquarie Centre,
    North Ryde  NSW  2113.

Application forms are not required for this purpose, but letters of
application must contain the following information:

    Full name, postal address, telephone number and date of birth
    Full details of studies including certified transcript of academic record
    An indication of particular skills/interests 
    The names and addresses of two University referees


THE CLOSING DATE FOR RECEIPT OF APPLICATIONS WILL BE FRIDAY 30 OCTOBER 1992

-- 
peter.nikitser@csis.dit.csiro.au              UNIX Systems Programmer
CSIRO Division of Information Technology      Computing Facilities Management
GPO Box 664                                   tel: +61-6-275-0926
Canberra   ACT   2600      Australia          fax: +61-6-257-1052
From: david@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (David Jones)
Newsgroups: aus.snow
Subject: train
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:01:19 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Melbourne Dept of Meteorology

>I was up at Perisher the other day (Friday the 9th) and teh XC skiing was
>still acceptable for any of those interested. It pured train however that
						  ^^^^^^^^^^^

                             Boy it must have been bad!!, I've seen it
			     pour rain! but pured train??????? 
						  
>night and we decided that rather than face soggy trails, we just left Island
>Bend and headed back to Sydney by way of Canberra. I wonder how they faired
>after the heavy rain. 
>
>I was glad to get another ski in before the season petered out, but I think
>keeners can still find plenty of good XC and XCD skiing before beach action
>kicks in.

>Brian Smith
>Sydney, Australia

>brians@extro.ucc.su.oz.au


David.
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From: brians@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Brian J Smith)
Subject: XC skiing OK recently
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:25:25 GMT


I was up at Perisher the other day (Friday the 9th) and teh XC skiing was
still acceptable for any of those interested. It pured train however that
night and we decided that rather than face soggy trails, we just left Island
Bend and headed back to Sydney by way of Canberra. I wonder how they faired
after the heavy rain. 

I was glad to get another ski in before the season petered out, but I think
keeners can still find plenty of good XC and XCD skiing before beach action
kicks in.

Brian Smith
Sydney, Australia

brians@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.snow
From: Garry.Davidson@geol.utas.edu.au
Subject: TasmaniaXC
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:40:21 GMT

For anyones information, the snow continues to survive in Tas, even after the
mega-rains of last Friday. By all reports, Ben Lomond continues to have a thick
cap of good snow high up around the now silent tows, but none on the
plateau.....Mt Field is losing it along Tarn Shelf but keeping it on the
Rodways and in the bowls around K-col.....Mt Rufus and Mt Gell look good from
afar, although I haven't been on them yet to check if this is a mirage. 

	Garry Davidson
From: dougcc@brt.deakin.edu.au (Douglas Miller)
Newsgroups: aus.snow
Subject: Snow report: Bogong High Plains
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:19:25 GMT
Organization: C&CS, Deakin University

12--14 October
==============

Summary: Enormous amounts of snow!

Monday:  Fine day.  Drove to Falls Creek.   Road closed at Windy Corner.
Good cover up the road to Rocky Valley.  No snow on the dam wall, but the
pondage itself is still mostly ice covered.  Skied from Heathy Spur to
Timm's Lookout via Nelse.  Unbelievably good cover for this time of year
(UGCFTTOY) --- the slope from Heathy Spur down to Edmonson's Hut (normally
snowless by early October) was virtually complete.  The area bounded by
Nelse North Spion Kopje and Whiterock Falls was an expanse of pure white. 
Forget about camping on grass; gaps haven't even opened up around tree
trunks yet.

Tuesday: Fine day. Skied down to Marm Point.  A few gaps around here, but
not enough to cause any problems.  Skied around the aqueducts, with the
occasional short walk required near in the 2km up to Basalt Hill.  Skied up
to Wallace's Gap and camped on a small patch of grass near Cope Hut.

Wednesday: Fine day (except for brief localised rain shower in afternoon
--- mostly bypassed me to the South!).  Skied out to Mt Cope.  Cover on the
plain is getting threadbare in places but is still contiguous.  Excellent
cover on Mt Cope.  From the summit the view across the High Plains was 80%
white.  In particular, the cover in Pretty Plain looked virtualy complete
(UGCFTTOY).  Skied back to Falls Creek via Rocky Knobs and Sun Valley.  No
problems with snow cover at all.  There were substantial snow bridges
across the creeks into Sun Valley.   UGCFTTOY.
Newsgroups: aus.snow
From: cataldo@jeeves.trl.OZ.AU (Tony Cataldo)
Subject: Mt Buller, Monday 12/10 -- day trip
Keywords: snow ski skiing buller Buller
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:00:57 GMT


I drove up to Mt. Buller, on Monday (12/10), as you may know
the weather was great (clear blue sky, all day!!!).  There 
still seems to be plenty of snow (it last snowed on Saturday
night 11 cm).  Although some of the lower runs that we could 
see from Horsehill car park, had little or no snow.

As you also know that, the lift tickets are $30 although I 
scored a October ski voucher off someone for $25.  

A few notes, of advice/warning, since Horsehill Gondola was 
closed we had to catch a bus to the village (extra few dollars
each way).  Also, Federation Triple & Southside Quad were not
running, although Bull run Quad was.  There seem to be heaps of snow 
on those closed runs (maybe saving it for the weekend???).  Another 
downer was that Grimus Triple wasn't running, that skiing area was 
also closed.  The Mt. Buller Lift Co. seem to be running on 
skeleton staff.

Overall, I was reasonally satisfied, although it would have been
better if a few extra chairs were running.  Considering the waiting 
time at lifts was nil, we got plenty of skiing done for such a
late time in the year.  By mid afternoon, there was hardly anyone
on bourke st & baldy, most people kept to the summit area. 


Tony CATALDO				
Newsgroups: aus.snow
From: roger@syd.dwt.csiro.au
Subject: Snow report: Kosciusko, Oct 4-8
Organization: CSIRO Div. of Wool Technology, Ryde, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 10:30:45 GMT

	Snow Report for Kosciusko region, 4-Oct to 8-Oct

Summary: Downhill has gone terminally downhill, but touring is great

Snow: Generally spring porridge

Weather: the usual mixture of fog, rain and blazing sun

We went over the Brindle Bull and Horse Flat ridges from Dead Horse
Gap: they have a reasonable amount of snow (porridge) up top, but
Boggy Plain is dry camping. You could get to the bridge on snow, but
that's partly because the track keeps it to last. 

We went up Kosci from Eagle's Nest: plenty of snow, ditto fog and sleet. 
Came down the Village trail on light touring skis: not an experience I 
want to repeat as it was motorboat and lawnmower country.

We went over Rawson's Pass (the old bus turntable), down Rawsons Ck, 
up Mueller Pass, over Northcote, Lee and Carruthers on good spring
porridge (icy up to about 9 or 10 am), and camped near Blue lake
outside the exclusion zone. The day was brilliantly clear with distant
cloud, and the sunburn was (subsequently) severe. A fair bit of wind 
at times, but the clouds went in other directions. Some feldmark 
exposed on Northcote and Lee, probably due as much to windblow as 
anything else. Cornices in good shape.
Blue Lake next day was great: good snow and the lake was still iced
over except for a small patch. Headley Tarn was still invisible. South 
to Rams Head Range and Mt Stilwell. Camped on a small patch of exposed 
heather: 6 inch inner spring mattress! Again blazing sun till late 
afternoon when it clouded over, drizzled a bit in the night and blew, 
but just foggy in the morning.
Skied into Eagles Nest as they opened, with cold toes. Got on the quad 
with packs and skis before they set it going: luxury!

My guess is that between Kosci and Schlink Pass is going to be good 
touring country for a few weeks yet. Patches of grass showing maybe, 
but no walking. However, the downhill is turning into spring flowers
unless you stay right up the top and ski early in the morning.
From: C.Chaundy@its.unimelb.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: aus.snow
Subject: RE: train
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:21:03 GMT
X-To: david@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au
X-Cc: aus-snow@unimelb.edu.au
X-Vms-To: IN%"david@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au"

>Date: 13 Oct 1992 02:01:19 +0000 (GMT)
>From: david@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (David Jones)
>Subject: train
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This is aus.snow, not nz.snow (or it.snow, or ch.snow, or...)!

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Newsgroups: aus.stats.s
From: andreas@iso.wwz.unibas.ch
Subject: SASification of S
X-Gateway: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Organization: CSIRO Div. Maths & Stats, CSIRO Div. Applied Physics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:45:55 GMT


The thing about the discussion going on which disturbs me somehow is that
people are strongly arguing against new features or "features", the running
example is the boxplot function.
It's a strong argument against implmementing lots of new features, that it
should be avoided for S / S-PLUS to head into the direction of SAS, becoming
a monstrous software elephant. 
But one has to define the typical user. If S/Splus is intended to support
statisticians with programming knowledge, it's absolutely right that a small
powerful kernel is enough. 
But in that way S will never become a widely used software. Lots of people 
want to have quick and wonderful representation graphics just by clicking or
entering one statement, not by programming a new function (!).
The need for some further extensions can be seen by the existence of statlib
for example. Lots of tools can be written, because they are not (yet) in S.
But they are not tested in any case. SAS has no need for such a library, 
because it is very complete.
We are actually discussing the two sides of staying small and efficient in a
small user community or spreading out and offering lots of tools. 
In the philosophy of S, already a menu should not be used because of the
strong interactive idea and power of S. But a software without (coloured)
menu is out of date. (Like graphical interfaces as MS Windows or OS/2,
replacing my DOS or UNIX prompt.)
As for Statistical Sciences, it's clear that their interest is to get lots
of users to S-PLUS. Therefore, S-PLUS has to be very complete in statistical
functions and arguments.

Andreas Krause

Newsgroups: aus.stats.s
From: daven@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Dave Nelson)
Subject: Re: boxplot
X-Gateway: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Organization: CSIRO Div. Maths & Stats, CSIRO Div. Applied Physics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:35:31 GMT

Just an observation:

In my experience, command-oriented graphics
.  has always been laced with creeping feature-ism, and
.  is doomed to ultimate failure for precisely that reason.

Now, desktop publishing has addressed this problem in a number of ways,
from extensive macro packages a la latex, amstex, etc., to style sheets
a la openwindows and point-and-shoot word processors, all intended to
combine power, simplicity, and ease of use.  What NO ONE has successfully
done is design systems with more and more complex guess-my-command style
interfaces.  

A Question:  shouldn't a style-sheet approach, implemented by graphics
classes (and subclasses) with overrideable defaults, be relatively easy
to implement on top of the newest S's object system?

dave nelson (daven@stat.berkeley.edu)

Newsgroups: aus.stats.s
From: andreas@iso.wwz.unibas.ch
Subject: normals
X-Gateway: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Organization: CSIRO Div. Maths & Stats, CSIRO Div. Applied Physics
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:22:10 GMT


Is there any obvious reason why S requires the standard deviation instead
of the variance as argument to the functions for normal distributions 
(rnorm, pnorm, dnorm, qnorm) ??

Newsgroups: aus.stats.s
From: dnewman@espresso.boeing.com (Dave Newman 5-3573)
Subject: Re: Boxplots ((fwd))
X-Gateway: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Organization: CSIRO Div. Maths & Stats, CSIRO Div. Applied Physics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:46:30 GMT


I concur with Phil of Washington U.  Anything in S(-Plus), or any other statistical
system, can be misused by a user whose reach exceeds his grasp.  In S, unlike SAS,
you don't HAVE to specify the "fancy" options you don't want to (or don't know 
how to) use; it is naturally extensible.  (In defense of SAS which I still occasionally
use, it bears the scars of having grown up in an IBM rather than a Unix environment.)

David Newman
Boeing Computer Services
Seattle, Washington
dnewman@espresso.boeing.com
Newsgroups: aus.stats.s
From: "Alan M. Gross" <amg@gamma.bellcore.com>
Subject: Re:  boxplot
X-Gateway: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU
Organization: CSIRO Div. Maths & Stats, CSIRO Div. Applied Physics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:25:25 GMT

The problem of 'SASification' is more than
organizing the documentation.  The further
problem is code complication, in that
almost every option has to work with
every other argument, so that the complexity,
difficulty of adding yet another option,
the difficulty of tailoring the code to
your own needs, bugs, etc., grows
exponentially with the number of arguments.

Alan Gross
Newsgroups: aus.stats.s