From: marke@fsi-ssd.csg.ssd.fsi.com (Mark W. Easter)
Subject: Re: Zmodem protocol on AIX ???
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:11:30 GMT
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In article <1992Aug17.175941.15613@ms.uky.edu> borders@ms.uky.edu (Johnny Borders) writes:

>   marke@fsi-ssd.csg.ssd.fsi.com (Mark W. Easter) writes:
>
>   >In article <1992Aug10.130401.1091@ccsun7.csie.nctu.edu.tw> gcp80532@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Chien-Lu Fang) writes:
>
>   >>        Would you please tell me where i can get the Zmodem utilities
>   >>  based on AIX 3.1 ???
>
>   >See "rzsz.tar.Z".  I got mine from uunet, and it works great.
>
>   *NOTHING* on AIX works "great." You're lucky if you can get it to work
>   at all. But I just *LOVE* IBM's er.. 'solutions' (see .sig :)

Gee, ever try "make sysvr3".  I think I spent 20 minutes getting this
package up including waiting for it to come down from uunet.

You know, I have avoided this debate for a long time now, but since
this comment was in reply to a message of mine and (I believe) an
issue of fairness is involved, I feel the time to say something has
come.  I, for one, am tired of all the lame comments about
IBM/AIX/RS6000.  No, AIX is not SUNOS, and so what?  I am reminded of
a comment during the Republican Convention last night that went
something like this, "Berlin Wall Down - Freed Border Guards Lose Jobs
- Bush Blamed."  SMIT is a step in the right direction, LVM is
liberating, control of out of memory conditions is welcome.  So it's
different than BSD, SUNOS, or ATT; it's different because it is trying
to be better, and it has done this while still providing the tools to
maintain portability with most other major environments.  All it takes
is a little thinking and a little work, and the reward is usually an
application that performs better than it did in its original
environment.  We use SUN, HARRIS, IBM, CONCURRENT, and MOTOROLA
systems.  With the exception of CONCURRENT, I have been quite pleased
with all of them; however, after working with all of them, I prefer
the IBM, and I prefer it because I place performance and vendor
response (HARRIS is a tie for first in the vendor response category)
above the "it doesn't work like a SUN" litmus test.  Most of these
complaints come from "younguns" that haven't lived much yet. Let me
tell you, change is the name of the game.  Those of us who can juggle
multiple projects on multiple platforms in multiple languages without
complaint or whining command the big bucks and the respect. You'd
better learn to slip out of your rut, look at the world, separate the
good from the bad, and, when objective analysis shows you've been
wrong, adapt.  IBM has produced an "excelling" product at a reasonable
price (for a change and to their credit), they support it VERY well,
they have followed through on all their promises for product
introduction and performance goals, and they have the muscle to bring
us all into the nirvana of open systems.  I, for one, applaud them on
their product and their efforts and their vision.  It has been a long
time coming (I never EVER thought I'd be saying things like this about
IBM), but it is here.  Bravo Austin.  Keep up the good work, keep up
the progress, keep listening, and those of us who make major product
purchase decisions/recommendations will choose IBM, not because it is
or isn't "like" something else, but for the time honored reason that
it makes the best business and technical sense.

Now, that I've done my duty in defending a company that has become a
friend, I've got to get back to work (some of us are solving problems
rather than griping, squawking, and creating new ones).  Consider me O
and O on this issue.
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