HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: chrisl@joplin.wri.com (Chris LaReau)
Subject: Re: EIU--when is convention?
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Distribution: il
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:41:28 GMT

In <C1F8nx.7zz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jsanders@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (John Eric Sanders) writes:

>Any word on when the Eastern Illinois University juggling con is
>this year?

Here's a repost of the convention announcement (which was posted 26 Nov 92;
in case anyone is wondering why we're conflicting with Mondo-Fest again
this year, we'd like to know too...):

Feel free to contact me for info.

Chris

===========================================================

1993 JUGGLING EXTRAVAGANZA

Eastern Illinois University
McAfee Gym
Charleston, Illinois 61920

Sat. Feb. 13th  9am - 11pm
Sun. Feb. 14th  9am - 4pm

Yes! TWO BIG DAYS! ONE LOCATION!

Party Sat. night at Friend & Co. uptown (Dungeon)

Registration: FREE

Directions: After coming into Charleston on 16(Lincoln), turn South
on 4th Street and go to the next intersection.  McAfee Gym
is on your left.

Hotels:
Econo Lodge 810 W. Lincoln, Charleston, (217)345-7689
Varsity Inn 415 W. Lincoln, Charleston, (217)348-8882
Charleston Bed and Breakfast 814 4th Street, Charleston,(217)345-6463


Keith Wolcott                Mike Thomason
(217)345-3063                (217)348-8009
email:cfkdw@eiu.edu

-----------------------
Chris LaReau  chrisl@wri.com  (working for, not speaking for) ...
Wolfram Research Inc. 100 Trade Centre Dr. Champaign IL 61820  (217) 398-0700
"Would it save you a lot of time if I just gave up and went mad now?" - A. Dent
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: mark@edscom.demon.co.uk (Mark Neale)
Subject: Re: BritJugCon6 - firm date yet?
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:01:18 GMT

In article <zlsiida.837@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

   I need to know, coz I have to make my travel plans for BJC6 AND the 
   F1championship 3rd round......
   I have a horrible feeling I have to miss one or the other....

You mean there is even the option of choice here? I would have thought
it was quite plain. You really cannot be considering doing something else?

Anyway, the dates are 2/3/4 April. As, to other details, I have none
yet. For longer term planning you also need to know that the European
at Leeds is the 1-5th September.

-- mark neale             mark@edscom.demon.uk     +44 908 284708
-- any opinion expressed above is.
From: 71035.525@CompuServe.COM (David J Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: records
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:53:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

Jim Goranson writes
> when we break a record, what verification do we need, and who do we send
> it to?  i.e. will being witnessed by 3+ IJA members do the trick?

Jim,
	I am the keeper of the network juggling records.  When you make
a new record or break an old one, send it to me and I'll put it in
the record list.  I have a few rules concerning the records as well as
some comments on how your club should be participating.  Many people
have seen it before so I'll send it to you personally.  Anyone else
who is also interested can recieve this info by mailing me.

Thanks for your interest,
dave
71035.525@compuserve.com
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From: thomasl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ((thomasl))
Subject: Re: Fest -- Eastern Illinois
Keywords: fun, juggle, fest
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:43:16 GMT

I should note that the fest announcement was taken from the flyer,
which I picked up in Vegas.  
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Duane Starcher)
Subject: Stereo Pics in _Jugglers World_
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 23:05:03 GMT

	Three stereo pictures of jugglers appear in the Winter issue of
_Jugglers World_.  Unfortunately the captions were left off in the
layout, so I thought I would pass on the information before it gets
corrected in the next issue.

	The top picture is Terry Kimpling on a double-stacked
rolla-bolla.  In the middle is our own Ed Carstens of JugglePro fame,
proving his competence with seven rings.  Here the stereo helps separate
the rings from the background.  The bottom picture is Risa Davis, not
known so much for her club juggling, as shown, but as a winning 
joggler and stalwart member of the IJA.

	There is also one important typo.  In the last paragraph you
are told to "Fold" the page.  Dont' do it.  You should "Hold" the page.

	Let me know how you get on free-viewing these images without a
viewer.  
                                                      
Duane Starcher             *             a                  a      
Memorial University        S           n                n  
St. John's, Newfoundland   T               d                 d
Canada                     E         a               a   
                           R           _  _a           _   _a
                           E           0 /             0  /  
(duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca)  O        C_/@           C_/ @ 
                           *           |               |
                                 O   _/ \_        O  _/ \_


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From: Brendan Brolly <PHY5JBB@phys-irc.novell.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: Fire proof glue.
Priority: normal
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:11:37 GMT
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4).
Via: uk.ac.leeds.gps1; Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:11:46 +0000

Has anyone found a glue that can be used to glue wicks onto things.
I've heard rumours of them but never come across one.
    I know that phenoic resins would make very good glues of this
sort but has anyone done it commercially.

    Brendan
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: biz@soil.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dave Bisignano)
Subject: Re: programs for the mac
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: mac, animation
Reply-To: biz@soil.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:20:12 GMT

I also would like such information!!

Dave Bisignano
biz@soil.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: jsanders@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (John Eric Sanders)
Subject: EIU--when is convention?
Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
Distribution: il
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:59:56 GMT

Any word on when the Eastern Illinois University juggling con is
this year?

-- 
 The Jester (John E. Sanders)       jsanders@symcom.math.uiuc.edu       
 I have finally discovered the method to my madness.  Unfortunately,    
 there is more madness to my method than method to my madness.          
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: juggling poets
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 17:20:54 GMT

In article <728220884.20277@minster.york.ac.uk> rob@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>
>Twit twit twit
>Jug jug jug jug jug jug
>So rudely forc'd.
>Tereu
>  --T.S. Eliot, The Waste Land
>
>does this mean that TSE could do 6 balls or just a cascade twice.  Any
>other evidence of juggling out there in the literature.
>
>
>R.

If i remember correctly, Xenophan (I think I've got the speeling correct, he
was an achent roman writer/phlosopher) in his book symposium had a poem
about the heavens containg a juggler who was juggling the stars and planets.
The whole book is in verse, as this was the way scholarly books were written
back then.  

-GReg
Cohen
gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
From: rh@craycos.com (Robert Herndon)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Coloured Flames - FAQ answer
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:16:53 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

As a safety comment, I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND AVOIDING the
use of lithium perchlorate with methanol.  Lithium perchlorate
is a strong oxidizer; mixed with a good fuel, such as methanol,
one possible result is a potent and rather unstable explosive.
Lithium perchlorate is also likely to eat one's torch wicks up,
although I cannot (and will not) verify this through personal
experience.

A secondary possibility is that as the wick dries, particularly
after repeated uses, lithium perchlorate will build up in and on
the wick, turning it into explosive.

All in all, I would *STRONGLY* recommend staying away from
perchlorate/fuel mixtures.  They've maimed many people over
the years.

Robert Herndon
----
I'm not a juggler, but I play one on TV.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: maize@bragg.bio.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: Fire proof glue.
Reply-To: maize@bragg.bio.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University, Dept. of Biological Sciences
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:17:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.171809.29447@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen) writes:
>I've experimented with every high-tempeture glue I could get my hands on.

  Note that resistance to high-temperature does not neccessarily imply
resistance to fire.  Also the wicks of a torch do not get all that hot
because the flame reaction is happening some distance from the wick.  
Also fuel is evaporating off the wick, cooling it.  (If you've ever
caught a torch by the flaming wick you probably didn't get burned unless
you touched a screw or held on too long.)
  Once I used 30% water 70% ethanol as a fuel.  It burned but the wick
was cold and wet if you touched it.
  The wick temperature only rises as the fuel is running low.  This is why
you're advised to blow torches out before they burn out -- it prevents the
wick from heating up and degrading.
  What I would like to know is how does one control the temperature of
the actual flame?  Pyrotechnicians have great knowledge of how to control
reaction temperatures in fireworks -- but these are solid state reactions.
A pyro I've corresponded with claims adding water to the fuel (I'm talking
about alcohol here) would have little effect on the flame temp because
the specific heat of gaseous water is not significantly different from
that of air.


_______________________________________________________________________
Phillip SanMiguel               Purdue
maize@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu       Institute for
                                  Molecular    "We'll do anything
  Bennetzen Lab                    Plant          for funding."
                                    Science
_______________________________________________________________________
From: esurw@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S M Landamore)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: What are all three (or more)  balls tricks ?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:48:12 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: veal.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In some article or other, Henry Thomas asks for info on tricks:

  You can't go far wrong if you have a look at the FAQ (ftp to
moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu)

  Any good book is essential (IMHO) - I can't say a bad thing about
The Complete Juggler by Dave Finnigan

Regards,
Stephen
-- 
	      Stephen Landamore, esurw@uk.ac.warwick.csv
	       University of Warwick, England, CV4 7AL.
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Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: thomasl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ((thomasl))
Subject: programs for the mac
Summary: god help me
Keywords: mac, animation
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:03:03 GMT

i never thought i would ask
i never thought i would care in the least about this but now it turns
out to be of interest so here goes:
(all this by way of apology for wasting everybody's time with stuff
that has been posted about at length for the past 2 years)

how do i get a copy of jugglepro?
is it true jugglepro runs on the mac and
takes siteswap as input to generate animated patterns?
which (other?) programs run on the mac?
hmmmmmm?
what other notations exist, aside from siteswap?
who wrote jugglepro, anyway?
does anyone know who is working on graphic representations of
notations, either siteswap, choreographic notation, etc?

don't be shy, come forth and be recognized.

l.

Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: hthomas@irisa.fr (Henry Thomas)
Subject: What are all three (or more)  balls tricks ?
Reply-To: Henry.Thomas@irisa.fr
Organization: Irisa, Rennes(FR)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:28:22 GMT

I'm a new juggler, hardly managing one or two tricks with three balls (and
two hands).

Q1 Could someone describe extensively what tricks are possible with three
balls ? (possibly with some ascii drawings ?)

Q2 what is a shower ? People have been talking a lot about that recently. I
still don't figure what is it.


Thank you very much for your time and help.


Henry.
From: yonsei@milton.u.washington.edu (Brian Peebles)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Cirque de Soleil??
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:51:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

In article <DOUGGER.93Jan20143606@corazon.ERC.MsState.Edu> dougger@ERC.MsState.Edu (Douglas Meyer) writes:
>
>In article <C15Lyp.BwK@news.ucs.mun.ca> duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Duane Starcher) writes:
>
>   Newsgroups: rec.juggling
>   From: duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Duane Starcher)
>   Sender: usenet@news.ucs.mun.ca (NNTP server account)
>   Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
>   References: <1jivkqINN3gn@aludra.usc.edu>
>   Distribution: na
>   Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 13:11:13 GMT
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>
>   >Cirque de Soleil?  I heard that they were going to be on
>   >the Tonight Show some time next week.  By the name it sounds 
>   >like they might be a circus troupe.  Since I live near the
>   >NBC studio I was wondering if it was worth going to the show.
>   >
>   >                        Thanks,
>   >
>   >                             Bob Murphy(rmurphy@aludra.usc.edu)
>   >
>   >
>	   DO NOT, REPEAT, DO NOT MISS CIRCQUE DU SOLEIL!!!!!!!!
>
>   (Is this strong enough language for you?  I will say no more, simply
>   because I wouldn't want to destroy your pleasure in their discovery.)
>
>
>For those who are interested, the Cirque du Soleil has signed a 1 year
>contract with a casino in Las Vegas... it appears that at least for
>the next year, if you want to see them you'll be traveling to Vegas.
>I'm not positive that they won't be rarely going to other cities, but
>I really doubt it... I'd imagine they'll be doing a show-a-night like
>everybody else in Las Vegas.  
>
>You probably wonder which casino has booked them... hmmm... I draw a
>blank right now.  But I can tell you where they aren't.  They're not
>at The Dune (it was just bought and in limbo), the Excalibur, Palace
>Station, or The Flamingo.  I don't think there at the Rio.  That
>leaves the Mirage, Caesar's Palace, Circus Circus, and a few others.

They're at the Mirage, according to Barry Friedman.  They're
right next door to Siegfried & Roy.  Hey, go see them Both...

Brian Peebles
yonsei@milton.u.washington.edu
peebles@ac.grin.edu


>Well, maybe I've been marginally helpful.  I'm in the midst of moving
>out to San Diego.. when I find out more, I'll post it, if anybody is
>still interested.
>
>
>
>
>--
>Douglas Brent Meyer
>Research Assistant
>Engineering Research Center for Computational Field Simulation
>Box 6176
>Mississippi State, MS  39759
>                                    "In short, there are three things
>Office: (601)-325-2477               that last:  faith, hope and love; 
>FAX:    (601)-325-7692               and the greatest of these is love."
>
>E-Mail Address:  dougger@erc.msstate.edu
>
>
>
>
>
From: ke94002@black.ox.ac.uk (Daniel J Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: hourly juggling mail from rec.juggling.
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:19:50 GMT
Organization: Oh, come /on/..
Originator: ke94002@black

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930125163721.384@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> STA5CW@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Chris Wright) writes:
>>  Other books? Kit Summers' Juggling With Finesse is very good, and equally
>> all-encompassing
>    You're joking, aren't you? As far as giving any insight into how
>to do difficult tricks, Kit Summers' book is as much use as a
>chocolate teapot. The diagrams are crap- nowhere near as good as
>those in The Complete Juggler.

 Erm. I suppose so; but, I guess, the thing is that Kit Summers doesn't
go on about how good at teaching you his book is, whereas Dave Finnigan
does. And whilst I suspect that Finnigan may well be excellent at
teaching people in person, The Complete Juggler smacks of being simply
him transcribing his method for teaching to a book -- and it just
doesn't work. Summers' does, at least, give the impression of having
been written to learn from as a book, rather than as a method of
teaching. If you see what I mean.



-- 
Daniel Mitchell = ke94002@black.ox.ac.uk = skinny bi lycra-clad furry juggler
From: kyle@wendy-fate.UU.NET (Kyle Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Rastelli Award
Date: 22 Jan 1993 09:21:45 -0500
Organization: UUNET Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: wendy-fate.uu.net

Jesse Schell <jscn+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
 > Does anyone know if the Enrico Rastelli Award has been won yet? If I
 > recall, to claim it, one had to earn all 15 "Complete Juggler" pins.
 > I've heard it said there is a sixteenth pin... Does anyone know what it
 > is?

For that matter how do you earn the other fifteen?
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: "P M. Selwood" <Paul.Selwood@bristol.ac.uk>
Subject: British Convention
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:34:45 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Via: uk.ac.bristol; Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:10:46 +0000
Return-Receipt-To: Paul.Selwood@uk.ac.bristol

Just a quick question regarding the British Convention. I don't
suppose anyone has details other than just the date do they?
We've written off but have had no reply and are getting concerned as we need to 
start planning if we are to go as a group.

The other query I have is regarding the Unicycle convention. Why are they 
held at the same time, in the same city, but with different venues and
seperate entrance fees. Surely there is a large number of people like
myself who both unicycle and juggle. I want to attend both but will almost
certainly lose out on one or another (even if it is in trying to negotiate
Birmingham's crazy road system).
Hope someone can shed light on these matters for me!
Thanks in anticipation
Paul Selwood
(University of Bristol Circusoc)
From: benjamin@corona.math.washington.edu (Benjamin Schoenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Robot juggling survey
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:04:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Mathematics, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: corona.math.washington.edu

Mohit asked about researchers who juggle, and Phil Burt opined that MechEs were
the best jugglers.  You may be right, Phil!  Jack Kalvan of Clockwork has a
MechE degree, and I think he spent a year and maybe some summers working at
IBM in New York state on some sort of juggling robot project.  I don't know
how far they got, though.

The mathematicians are pretty good jugglers too :-)
-Ben
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: BritJugCon6 - firm date yet?
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:06:29 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

I need to know, coz I have to make my travel plans for BJC6 AND the 
F1championship 3rd round......
I have a horrible feeling I have to miss one or the other....


            All creatures will make merry   (on pain of death)
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033  
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: ben@crash.cts.com (Ben Decker)
Subject: Re: Tonight's SNL on The Comedy Channel (01/18/93)
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:31:39 GMT

In <1993Jan19.151650.3908@BofA.com> aconway@BofA.com (Andrew Conway) writes:

>In article <C13A3J.HuG@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:
>>
>>On Saturday Night Live tonight (01/18/93) on The Comedy Channel, there
>>was a juggler that really did nothing more than one standard three club
>>cascade with "danger objects" -- namely a machete, a cleaver, and a
>>double bladed ax......
>>

>comedy jugglers over the years - he has been on many TV shows, had a
Hi Andrew!! The gag was "juggling on a motorcycle" written by Jim Hershey, a
magician who used to live in San Diego. We performed a lot in Balboa Park
(Street Show HELL) together. One day Mike and Greg Dean came to see me in the
park and they also stayed for Jim's show. As they were leaving, I walked back
to the car with them and he kept raving about that joke. I suggested he offer
to buy it from Jim who was 1) a big fan of Mike's, 2) in need of the money :)
and 3) the kind of guy who would think it a _really_ classy thing to do. Mike
paid him $100 for the joke, but not exclusive rights to it. Jim carried around
a xerox copy of the check for years to show people who accused him of stealing
it!!

You're right about Mike Davis' material. So much of it is "public domain" now,
it's amazing...

				-Ben Decker
				-Editor of the Two Ply Press
From: ewn@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Looking for a unicycle GIF....
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:15:20 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University


I am looking for a gif of a unicyclist.  No specific person or anything, it's
for a poster we're trying to make to advertise our juggling club.  Non-stereo,
of course.  We don't want to cause headaches.

If you can tell me where I can download a unicycle gif of something similar,
please respond via email to ewn@vax5.cit.cornell.edu.

Thanks!

Michael Baswell
Cornell Jugglers
Bravely preparing to face the single worst interface known to Internet in his
search for the unicycling group....

Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:51:19 -0500 
From: Jesse Schell <jscn+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Rastelli Award

Does anyone know if the Enrico Rastelli Award has been won yet? If I
recall, to claim it, one had to earn all 15 "Complete Juggler" pins.
I've heard it said there is a sixteenth pin... Does anyone know what it
is?
--------------------------------
Jesse Schell
jscn@andrew.cmu.edu
Information Networking Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
--------------------------------
From: davidw@fulcrum.co.uk (David Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: BritJugCon6 - firm date yet?
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:47:33 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <MARK.93Jan25150115@runningbear.edscom.demon.co.uk> mark@edscom.demon.co.uk (Mark Neale) writes:

>Anyway, the dates are 2/3/4 April. As, to other details, I have none
>yet. For longer term planning you also need to know that the European
>at Leeds is the 1-5th September.
>

Is this still going to be in Birmingham? Does anyone have more
details?

Dave W.


--
David Wilkinson                                    davidw@fulcrum.co.uk
Fulcrum Communications Ltd, Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND
From: rathkop (RATHKOPF,CHARLES)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Jugglers in the UF or Gainesville FL area.
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:51:09 GMT
Reply-To: rathkop@elm.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4


Would any jugglers in the UF area please give me a call at 336-6447 or email
me at rathkop@elm.circa.ufl.edu.

It's time we got a juggling club started again at UF

---Charley Rathkopf

Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: muller@nodex.enet.dec.com (Michael J. Muller)
Subject: MIT juggling club?
Organization: Digital Equipment
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:46:48 GMT


I've been passing clubs with some friends at work and 
a couple of us are looking to meet up with a group o' 
jugglers to get ideas for novel things to try.

Do any members of the MIT juggling club follow this
conference?  Is this an open group?  Can folks just 
drop by and join in the fun?  I gather you practice
Sundays; where/when?

Are there any other groups out there that meet in the 
Boston area?  (or west of there; we work/live off of
route 495)

			-- Mike