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From: wyattw@tekig1.pen.tek.com (Wyatt A Webb;629-1592;92-835;tekig1.pen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: All-star HORSE  (was:rookie all-star game)
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:40:34 GMT
	<1992Nov13.212559.15911@rti.rti.org>
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In-reply-to: ellie@ora.com's message of 16 Nov 92 13:58:47 GMT

In article <BxtAu0.D0@ora.com> ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler) writes:

   If they institute HORSE games, I would feel bad that a sure-fire 
   HORSE King would have just missed it by a year...Larry Bird.

   -- 
	   Ellie Cutler

	   ellie@ora.com               
	   uunet!ora!ellie

Correct me if I'm having delusions but, I distinctly remember watching
HORSE games between famous NBA players when I began watching basketball
in the mid to late 70's.  I believe they were taped and played during
halftime or as a pregame thingy.  They had scoreboards with the HORSE
letters, a referee and everything.  I remember one match involving Jo Jo
White of the Celtics(?).  Boy that was a while back (I was born in 1970)

Could someone please confirm my memories or just flame me for posting
childhood hallucinations?

Thanks!

	-Wyatt
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE cle06sac06.15nov92
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:38:20 GMT

alecb@gacvx1.gac.edu writes:
>sac ( 4- 2)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
>simmons,lionel    44   6  16   0  0   5  7   1  7   6  4  1  4  0  0  0  0   17
>tisdale,waymon    44   8  19   0  0   1  2   2 10   6  4  0  0  0  0  0  0   17
>causwell,duane    20   4   5   0  0   1  2   1  7   0  4  0  2  0  0  0  0    9
>richmond,mitch    47  12  21   3  4   4  4   0  8   6  1  1  2  1  0  0  0   31
>brown,randy       41   7  10   0  0   0  2   1  3   4  4  1  2  0  0  0  0   14
>williams,walt     35   9  15   1  4   2  2   3  6   5  5  0  3  1  0  0  0   21
>les,jim            9   0   1   0  0   0  0   2  2   2  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>sac totals       240  46  87   4  8  13 19  10 43  29 23  3 13  2  0  0  0  109
>FG, 3P, FT averages:     .529   .500   .684       team rebs  9
> 
	Now, here's a good example of a team using it's starters too much
	early in the season.  Pretty much a non-important non-conference
	game, and they use basically only 6 players?  And this early in the
	season?  What's the purpose behind this?  I'd say people like Mitch
	Richmond are going to be barely able to walk by the time the end
	of the season rolls around.

	Jazzy J

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From: m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: San antonio
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:42:11 GMT
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Organization: Federal Reserve Board
In-reply-to: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu's message of 16 Nov 92 00:34:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.003458.9449@muddcs.claremont.edu> byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau) writes:


   anyone want to share with us why san antonio is getting off to such an awful 
   start?  Vinnie can't be that much of a team leader. 

   and how is Lloyd looking?  i am really interested to see/hear how he is doing
   this season.
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Ok.  Terry Cummings gone for season, Willie Anderson out indefinitely.
In Daniels and Del Negro they've got two guys without solid NBA credentials.
Daniels has been looking just like you'd expect a guy with no college
and no pro experience to look like.  They've also got a new coach.
Wouldn't you expect a team with at least four first-time Spurs (Daniels,
Del Negro, Ellis, Larry Smith) and a first-time NBA coach to struggle?
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy)
Subject: Re: Best Division in the NBA?
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:00:10 GMT

as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:


>You forgot one stat...

>Pacific (0-4)   NBA Championships in past four years!
>Central (4-0)   NBA Championships in past four years!

>You can KEEP your Pathetic Pacific exhibition season early records.  I think
>these stats tell it all. ;-)

Absolutely. I mean, while Detroit and Chicago have battled with playoff 
powerhouses like Indiana and Miami.

Portland and the Lakers have played weaklings like the Phoenix
and Utah.

The West Champ is so beaten up from playing the likes of Phoenix
and Utah, that they are spent against the East Champ who has
"battled" a Miami or Milwaukee.
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From: c60c-1hk@web-1a.berkeley.edu (Alvin Cham)
Subject: thoughts.......
Originator: c60c-1hk@web-1a.berkeley.edu
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:13:49 GMT


Some thoughts/observations after two weeks into the season:

1)  Utah is still undefeated..........ON THE ROAD!!!!  And yet they have
    lost 2 home games already.

2)  All 3 Lakers's wins have winning margins 3 points or less, while their
    3 losses have losing margins in double figures.

3)  Blue Edwards or Chris Jackson will receive the most improved player
    award this year.

4)  Mike Dunleavy continues his role as a magician.

5)  The Kings are back to their old forms (losing games).

6)  The Suns are still playing well without KJ.

7)  Guess which team leads the Atlantic Division.......Orlando.

8)  Early disappointments:  Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Celtics

9)  Early surprises:  Kings, Bucks, Magic

comments??
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From: 93mel@williams.edu (MICHAEL E LAPIN)
Subject: Re: Poll results as of Monday Morning....2 more days!
Organization: Williams College
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:02:17 GMT

>(1) = First Team           (2) = Second Team

Guard 1 Michael Jordan
Guard 2 Clyde Drexler
Center David Robinson
Forward 1 Charles Barkley
Froward 2 Dominique Wilkins
MVP David Robinson

Dominique with his new philosophy and new leg looks better than ever.
David needs somebody to play with down in San Antonio. Until he gets some 
help they will never win a title.
Michael is still one of the greatest and with Scottie they make up a 
great pair.
Sir Charles looks better than ever with Phoenix, when KJ comes back they 
could show everyone out west a thing or two. Although I am a Seattle fan, I 
can't kid myself about Phoenix.
When talking about the greats one can't forget Clyde, he is almost as good 
as Michael and his work as a point guard is outstanding.

How about a rookie MVP as well, Shaq could give us the first expansion team 
contender.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:29:43 GMT

dolsen@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (David Olsen) writes:
>>1) Has any player in the NBA history EVER had a quadruple double?  I
>>mean double digits in any four of the following categories: points,
>>rebounds, steals, assists, blocks (and maybe turnover? :) 

>I know Alvin Robertson had one when he was with San Antonio and Mark Eaton
>came within a block of having one once.

	Mark Eaton?  I can maybe see points, rebounds, and blocks -- but
	what was that 4th category?  Must be turnovers... :)

	Jazzy J
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From: terry@belridge.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Dennis Rodman
Date: 21 Nov 1992 06:53:35 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: belridge.stanford.edu
Summary: Pistons suspend Rodman
Keywords: Rodman, Pistons, trade

Well, it appears the Dennis Rodman situation has come to a head.
Rodman refuses to play because he says he's injured.  The Pistons
don't agree and have suspended him without pay.  Reportedly,
Rodman met in private with the members of his team this week
and told them that he will behave in such a manner that Detroit
will have no choice but to trade him.   After the meeting, various
players said that Rodman has to go.

There are plenty of teams interested in Rodman and we'll have to see
what transpires.  Of course, various rumors have been floating
around for weeks.  Among them are:
1) Rodman for Benjamin with Seattle,
2) Rodman for Marciulionis with Golden State ( I hope this does not happen.),
3) Rodman for Grant Long and Brian Shaw with Miami ( this may have to
    be amended for salary cap reasons since Long got his big contract.),
4) Rodman for Johnny Neumann with Charlotte (This may fall through now
   since Neumann is out for a couple of months.)
5) Rodman for somebody from New Jersey so that he can rejoin Daly.

We'll have to wait and see, but it looks like Dennis Rodman has played
his last game as a Detroit Piston.

				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
From: atwoodc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Charles Atwood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: SHAQ!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:39:34 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

JLW154@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
: 
:      Hey just heard that Shaq was named player of the week.  Thus making him th
: e first player to be named this in his first week in the NBA.  Uninamous Rookie
:  of the year(but he better watch for Alonzo when he gets rolling), well later.
: JAY Wade.
: (LONG LIVE G`TOWN)

	You better keep dreaming because the Shaq will take Alonzo to the
rack any day, any time, any place.  Take that to the bank!!

A little insite into basketball's finer points.

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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Re: Undefeated Teams?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:21:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.154348.24042@rti.rti.org> wgr@rti.rti.org writes:

>No, I'm sure I've seen that this team's record 68-13.  I believe it was
>the 1967 Philadelphia Warriors, with Wilt, Hal Greer, et al.  I think Wilt
>says it was the best team he ever played on, meaning he thinks it was a
>better team than the '72 Lakers with the 69-13 record and the 33-game
>(or whatever) winning streak.

    Yes, the 1966-67 season was a transition year as the NBA gradually
lengthened the season to 82 games.  I think it had been 80 before then,
and I think it was 72 games for much of the 1950s.  
     Anyway, NBA teams played only 81 games in 1967.
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 00:21:26 CST
From: <U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BOX: Wolves vs Bulls (11/17)

U missed Stacey King from Bulls list

he played 9 mins. 4 (or 2?) rbs. and 11 pts., I think.

High time Grant played some offense after he had 0 pts the other day

and with his brother scoring 30+ against Celts.
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From: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Camden `Snake-Oil' Parks)
Subject: BOXSCORE: njn03nyk03.10nov92
Reply-To: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:17:29 GMT

njn 96, nyk 99   10nov92

njn ( 1- 2)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
coleman,derrick   45  11  23   1  2   7  7   4 11   3  3  1  8  0  0  0  0   30
morris,chris      31   4  10   0  1   1  2   2  4   0  2  1  0  0  0  0  0    9
bowie,sam         20   3   6   0  0   3  3   1  4   0  5  3  2  2  0  0  0    9
anderson,kenny    38   9  19   0  1   6  7   1  3   4  2  3  6  0  0  0  0   24
petrovic,drazen   42   6  14   0  0   4  5   1  4   0  3  1  3  0  0  0  0   16
dudley,chris      17   1   5   0  0   0  1   5  8   0  4  0  1  1  0  0  0    2
mahorn,rick       14   1   1   0  0   0  0   3  6   0  4  0  2  0  0  0  0    2
george,tate        3   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  1   0  1  0  3  0  0  0  0    0
robinson,rumeal   13   0   4   0  0   2  2   0  0   3  1  1  0  0  0  0  0    2
addison,rafael    10   0   2   0  0   2  2   0  2   1  4  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
brown,chucky       7   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  2   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
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njn totals       240  35  84   1  4  25 29  17 45  11 30 10 25  3  0  0  0   96
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .417   .250   .862       team rebs  6
bench technicals: CDaly,CDaly

nyk ( 3- 0)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
campbell,tony     39   4  11   0  1   3  3   1  2   1  2  1  1  1  0  0  0   11
oakley,charles    25   4   8   0  0   0  2   5 12   0  5  1  1  0  0  0  0    8
ewing,patrick     42   8  17   0  1   7 10   5 13   0  2  1  3  0  0  0  0   23
rivers,doc        24   4   8   0  1   3  4   0  2   2  4  2  2  0  0  0  0   11
starks,john       29   7  14   0  0   2  2   1  3   5  3  0  5  0  0  0  0   16
mason,anthony     22   3   7   0  0   5  6   3  6   0  3  0  3  0  0  0  0   11
smith,charles     16   3   7   0  0   9 10   2  6   1  6  1  3  1  0  0  0   15
anthony,greg      24   1   4   0  0   0  0   0  1   4  1  6  2  0  0  0  0    2
davis,hubert      19   1   4   0  0   0  0   0  2   4  1  2  0  0  0  0  0    2
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nyk totals       240  35  80   0  3  29 37  17 47  17 27 14 20  2  0  0  0   99
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .438   .000   .784       team rebs  8
procedure technicals 1

njn   30  11  31  24  -   96
nyk   22  24  32  21  -   99

attendance 19763, time 2:18, officials: BAlexander,HHollins,GBenson
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Subject: Undefeated Teams? (was Re: PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS WILL GO 82-0 AND WIN THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP)
From: rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu (Dale Harris)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:24:51 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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In article <1992Nov18.000904.9009@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>
>
>NUF SAID.
>

;)  It's good to dream I suppose...    I have a question has there
ever been a team that went undefeated and if not what is the closest record
to being undefeated and the team that achieved it?  Does this go back to
the days of Wilt Chamberlain or do the Bulls with Air Jordan own the
record?


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From: glosson@mdtf12.fnal.gov (Rich Glosson)
Subject: Re: Shaq should have been on the Olympic Team...
Organization: Fermilab, Batavia, IL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:23:29 GMT

In article <9953@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
Path: linac!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pitt.edu!pmmst8
   From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
   Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
   Date: 20 Nov 92 05:12:36 GMT
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   In article <GLOSSON.92Nov19133419@mdtf12.fnal.gov> glosson@mdtf12.fnal.gov (Rich Glosson) writes:
   >
   >Mr. Barkley makes a statement that is undenyably racist to which Marcus
   >Lindroos (see 1st referenced post) seconds.  Then Marcus takes offense to
   >Rich Glosson  	   Fermi National Accelerator Labratory
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   Charles Barkley maybe predjudiced but he can't be racist. He has no power to
   do any thing. The people who made questionable selections to the olympic team
   are the racists. Among white people it has become very fashionable to whine
   about racism any time some one says some thing that offends them. And while
   blacks can be biased, there predjudice can never and has never don the white
   race damage on the scale that white predjudice does and has done black people
   damage. Those who equate the two do so in order to submerge a guilt conscience
   and to include every one in the category of sinners in which realistically 
   speaking only they are justified to be..


   makala

   >=======================================================


Thanks for confirming my point!  I guess two wrongs make a right and that
there are right reasons to do wrong things.
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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: RODMAN: may be suspended or traded, but NOT RETIRED!
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:21:07 GMT

Subject line says it all, friends....After doctors have found nothing
wrong with Dennis' knee, he still claims the pain is too bad to play.
Expect him to be suspended or traded in the next few days.
 
No word yet on his retirement...gee, it seems like we've been hearing about
that since the end of last season, but it hasn't happened yet.
 
Dennis is depressed, sure, but he doesn't want your sympathy or tissue box.
I think he's going to get exactly what he wants.
 
--Eric
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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: Re: Stats on Shaq...q
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:25:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.044836.24444@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> psmith@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Paul Jeffrey Smith) writes:
>
>Any one got a collection of stats on [Shaquille O'Neal]

	  g min  fg-a   pct 3p-a ft-a  pct  ast stl  to blk rpg  ppg
O'Neal	  5 35.4 48-83 .578  0-0 33-54 .611   6   3  24  17 16.4 25.8

Tom@Orlando
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Who are the worst players in nba?
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:10:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov19.164639.9897@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani) writes:
>A topic more worthy of discussion is - who are the worst starters
>at each position. I remember an article in one magazine that compared
>starting centers and rated Kevin Duckworth the worst staring center.

I believe you are referring to an article in Petersen's Basketball
Preview.  I was not terribly impressed with the article.  It
calculated the "points created" by each player, where a possession
was considered .9 points.  Somehow, from this they derived the
formula

points created = points - 0.9 * (missed field goal attemps)
               + 0.9 * rebounds + 1.1 * assists + 0.9 steals
               - 0.9 * turnovers + 1.1 * blocks.

(I'm doing this from memory; somebody correct me if I got the
formula incorrect.  That is, if anybody actually owns a copy of
Petersen's.)

Personally, I think magazine's like Petersen's make way too much out
of this.  Yeah, statistics are interesting.  Anyone who was around
r.s.b.p. last May remembers I posted quite a few articles rating
players by statistics myself.  But they're just an amusement.
Statistics do not tell the whole story.  And just because Duckworth
had the worst "points created per game" according to Petersen's
formula does not necessarily mean he's the worst starting center in
the league.

Then again, it doesn't mean he isn't.  ;-)

Tony
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Best Division in the NBA?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:32:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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You forgot one stat...

Pacific (0-4)   NBA Championships in past four years!
Central (4-0)   NBA Championships in past four years!

You can KEEP your Pathetic Pacific exhibition season early records.  I think
these stats tell it all. ;-)

Mike
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From: tmurray@lonestar.utsa.edu (Terrence M. Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: test
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:55:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Nov18.205527.13040
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


test
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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Re: OT games
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:55:05 GMT

In article <By3IEt.JyH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:

>jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson) writes:
>
>>What's wrong with the Knicks?
>
>	Zero offense.  Anthony Mason your 2nd leading scorer?  VERY scary.
>	However, there are a lot of new players, and it's going to take 
>	some time for Riley to figure out a stable rotation in which
>	everyone can get time.  Also, Rolando Blackman hasn't fully 
>	recovered from injury yet.

     Actually, Mason is somebody to watch.  I don't think his stats
this year are a fluke, he's improved immensely each year that he's
been in the league.   One or two years ago, Lakers' TV announcer Stu
Lantz couldn't keep from giggling every time Mason "bricked" yet another
shot.  But Mason looked good against the Clippers this past week,
and last year he shot 50.9% from the floor (mostly from within
3 feet probably).  But this year he's shooting a wider range of
shots, shooting more, and making 47% of them -- yeah, 47% is not
going to get him into the All-star game, but it's not too bad on
a team that's shooting 43.6%.
     Now I'm not saying Mason will be or should be the Knicks second
leading scorer.  But I think he's developing to the level of a
legitimate NBA starter.
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