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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: GEOS backgrounds
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:57:50 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard) writes:

>I did an archie on graphics workshop but only found references to
>GNU's graphics-0.17.tar.Z which if I am not mistaken is for UNIX
>workstations. Which Graphics Workshop were you refering to?

Oh, you need to look for GWS.* - that's the filename for GraphicsWorkShop.

>btw what do I resize the .gif files to?

That depends on what type of video your system has.  If you're running VGA,
resize them to 640x480 (or smaller).  If you're running SVGA, you might be
able to do 800x600.  I don't know the screen size for EGA, sorry.

-Shag

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Subject: Re: geos.ini

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cs421246@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs421246) writes:

>Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
>and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!

There are some "hints and tips" files floating around (mainly on America
Online) - I've seen excerpts of one of them, and some of the tips deal with
geos.ini.  I don't know whether you can make GEOS's GUI look like a Sparc
though (at least, not at this time, I haven't heard of a specific GUI that
looks like anything other than Motif or Mac)... There are a lot of neat
things you can set in geos.ini, though...  Here are excerpts from my own.

applianceroom = false		<- Intermediate mode is never offered.
firstlookroom = false		<- Beginner mode is never offered.

dosAssociations = {
	*.GIF = C:\UTILITY\VPIC.EXE	<- double-click a GIF, it displays.
	*.ZIP = C:\UTILITY\UNZIP.EXE	<- double-click a ZIP, it unzips.
}

confirmDelete = true		<- I'm probably going to change some of these
confirmReadOnly = true		<- to FALSE so that it doesn't prompt me 
confirmReplace = true		<- before every file when I'm deleting many.
minimizeOnRun = false		<- You can minimize GeoManager when you start
				   any other app.

A friend of mine got a big tip file which he might eventually mail me, if he
does, I'll post it.

-Shag

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From: simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: geos broken
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:23:34 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


GEOS is acting real flakey on my machine after running fine for a
couple of years. I removed it totally, deleting all subdirectories and
reinstalled. Setup screen froze with mouse cursor in upper left
corner. I ran geohelp and got it running with the /nomem switch.

It often displays the "GEOS cannot read disk - disk may be bad -
error"! I am having no bad luck with any other application.  btw I am
running DR-DOS 6.0 and GEOS V1.2 - Shag could you email me a copy of
your config.sys, autoexec.bat - oh heck your sysinfo file.

Oh yeah, I just moved and haven't come across my GEOS documents, is
there a way to turn off the request for the serial number if I cannot
find the serial number?
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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: How do you use GEOS? How would you like to use v2?
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:18:50 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor) writes:

>BTW, if your buddies at FTP are planning to write an X-server for
>GEOS, I might buy a copy for myself...

1) the end of your message got 86'ed.

2) the guy I know best there will probably read his e-mail once between now
	and the time 2.0 comes out. ;)

-shag
 
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From: u34kcj@chulkn.chula.ac.th (Mr.Krisda Chongjitaporn -Ungrad .Political Science)
Subject: Subscription
Reply-To: <pcgeos-list@pandora.sf.ca.us>
Organization: Pandora Systems	
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:37:17 GMT
Originator: pcgeos-list@pandora.sf.ca.us


Dear PCGEOS,

	I'm interesting in PCGEOS, and want to request
	adding my name to the list..

		Thank you in advance, Krisda Chongjitaporn
		from (u34kcj@chulkn.chula.ac.th)
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Subject: Re: geos.ini

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Thanks Shag. I went through a little panic - wait a minute, wasn't I
looking at this file in notepad and now I can't!!! 

Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!


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From: ppaglia@bnr.ca (Peter Paglia P925)
Subject: Geos 2.x multimedia support (?)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:49:36 GMT

Several times in the past year I've bought a 'MPC' product, only
to have it puke like a dog when I ran it under Windoze. It seems
that most current MPC stuff will not multitask, (requires the 
CPUs complete attention) but more and more are trying to earn
that spiffy MPC logo. Most recently, Broderbund's "Just Grandma
and Me", and the MPC magazine "Nautilus". Although they seemed
like fine products, they become extreemly flakey under the alleged 
OS above. When I call the publisher for help, or to complain, 
they always blame Win3.1 or some driver WIN needs, that I must not     
have. It's not their fault. Yea right.

Well, I would LOVE to use this oportunity to extol the virutes of
GeoWorks*  Multimedia, but I CAN'T!!!! The publisher and I just sigh, 
and agree that WIN is a poor choice, but the only one.

So, does anyone know if its posible to include multimedia hooks
in the Geos kernal, or are they expecting it to be a third party
application. (doesn't the MAC system7 have sound built in?)
Integrated sound and high-end video is the ONLY reason I still
have WIN3.1 infesting my hard drive, applications like Broderbund's
or some of the new EBook stuff (12 roads to Gettysburg) are just too
good to pass up. If Geos ignores multimedia, it may as well stay 
on a pen-pc.

* Whenever I talk to a software publisher, I ask when the Geos
versions of (use your imagination) will be availible. Come on SDK!!


Disclaimer: nobody pays me to rant.

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From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Dougherty thoughts and PC/GEOS in the media
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:28:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.190940.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
writes:
>The following is portions from EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES by Tom Campbell 
>from the Jan '93 issue of COMPUTE (re-printed without permission -- 
>please don't sue!)
[...]
>[then there's something about Modular Windows and that it will appear 
>in "Tandy's new multimedia player" and something about "the dawn of 
>Windows NT, a Lego-like operating system that's only 60K at its 
>core."]

Bah!  How misleading!  That "60K at its core" is the just the very core of
the kernel (the current buzz-word is 'nano-kernel' :-).  This is definitely
one of those "yeah, so what" type values.  No one can do squat with just
that part of the kernel.

Some guy from Microsoft (can't recall his name) gave a presentation about
Windows NT on campus (UCB's :-) and is what quite fun watching Professor's
of the likes of John Ousterhout tear the poor guy to shreds. :-) (Hmm...
Could I be getting blood thirsty in my ripe old age? :-) Anyway, I came out
with a couple of pages of things to laugh about but the most relevant one
with this discussion is that their (MS) *goal* is to cut the minimum RAM
requirements down to around 4 Mega-Bytes *for the system*.  Geez.

>"GeoWorks is still the king of lightweight operating systems with 
>heavyweight features, but it isn't the only player in the game.  And 
>it doesn't have 20 000 working developers in its court."

True but that just means that there's a lot less competition (and hence
greater profit potential). :-)

Oh well, back to work,
			John
			johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU

P.S.	My opinions and recollections.  GeoWorks speaks for itself.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: Re: How do you use GEOS? How would you like to use v2?
Reply-To: doug-taylor+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:52:33 GMT

In article <Dec.18.16.20.18.1992.14254@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:
>business applications, games, et cetera.  TCP/IP and X toys are "niche" apps,
>which is why there are so damn few of them... Hmm, I'll have to drop mail to
>my friends at FTP Software and ask whether they're planning support.  I _like_
>companies with e-mail addresses. ;)

Maybe TCP/IP is a niche product, but if it runs under GEOS it should
be part of the OS, not a separate app.  I'd like to see it as an
option in the Modem section of Preferences, along with the other means
for telecommunication.  ("Lessee, do I want COM1, COM2, or TCP/IP?")

If it's in the OS, then the people who write telecom programs for GEOS
could have automatic TCP/IP support without re-inventing that
particular wheel each time.  Reusability is what an OOOS is all about,
no?  We also wouldn't have the same trouble with competing standards
that currently plagues the DOS world.  (I was happily using packet
drivers until I was told I had to run one particular app that supports
*only* NDIS.  Sheesh!)

BTW, if your buddies at FTP are planning to write an X-server for
GEOS, I might buy a copy for myself.  Running X-Windows on my little
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From: johnlee@crash.cts.com (John Wiley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Dry spell
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:54:49 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA


If you're desperate for GW news like me, perhaps you'll find this
interesting.  There's a half page ad for GW Pro in Quicknews (newsletter
from Intuit for Quicken users).  Since there's a Windoze version of
Quicken, that leads to the faint hope this leading software will come out
with a GW version.  On the other hand, the bottom half of the page is an ad
for Prodigy.  :<
 
On another front (equally desperate), I learned today that Novell recently
hired several tech support people in the DR DOS division.  Perhaps this
means there's a new version coming, with DOS multitasking for GW.  On the
other hand, tech support at DR was rumored to have been well below Novell's
standards, so the hiring may have been only to support 6.0 until MS is done
digesting DR's lunch.
 
Isn't it more fun to read tea leaves than MS' vaporware reports?  |)
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From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: DOS AREA icons are now usable!
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:12:29 GMT

I have converted all the icons in the GeoWorks Pro DOS PROGRAMS area 
into useable PC/GEOS icons and I've zipped them up into one file.  
However, I'm having trouble uploading the file to my VAX account and 
then to the FTP-site. 
 
I'm trying to find out if I'm capable of FTP uploading at my end -- in 
the meantime, does anyone have any suggestions for an alternate way to 
get this file to the FTP site?  I could snail-mail the file on a 
floppy to someone or something.
 
Any helpers?
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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From: fadickey@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Fred A Dickey)
Subject: Pandora and failed mail
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:15:35 GMT


Who ever is in charge of the Pandora mailing list, please fix the whatever
is causing the mailer-daemon there to echo failed mail messages back to
this usenet group!  I'm able to put up with the annoying
subscribe/unsubscribe messages that's been flooding the group lately, but
wading through 10 echos of the mailer-daemon sending back messages that
have been posted in this group saying that it was failed mail is a bit
rediculous.  For a moment, I was getting concerned that maybe the daemon
was stuck in a loop back.  *starts digging through the help files looking
for the section on kill files*  I want to hear what everyone has to say
about GEOS, but if the mailer-daemon starts sending as many failed mail
messages to here as I've seen subscribe/unsubscribe messages, I'll have to
set up a kill file on my account to ignore all postings from Pandora.  I'd
perfer to not have to do that.  All I'm asking is that you please don't
let that happen again.......it's *really* annoying.

,^MrSpock^
From: simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: geos broken
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:11:02 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Now the system won't even load - indicates that the kernel is being
handed a bad handle? I am wearing out by FDD

		 HHHHHHHEEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!
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Subject: Re: geos.ini

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Thanks Shag. I went through a little panic - wait a minute, wasn't I
looking at this file in notepad and now I can't!!! 

Where can I get info about geos.ini? I regularily use a sparc at work
and would like to configure geos to look a little more familiar!




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From: drakonar@cs.montana.edu (Charles L. Stewart III)
Subject: xmodem info needed
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 02:31:39 GMT


I'd like to be able to use Geocomm's xmodem to upload/download files to/from
my university's system.  However, nowhere can I find any documentation on
how to do so.  
Help?

-- 
      ---=>   Charles Stewart (aka Scott) : drakonar@cs.montana.edu   <=---
You know what they say, what goes around. . .usually gets dizzy and falls over.
From: simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: HELP!
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:31:00 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

I encountered a nasty problem, I blew GEOWORKS has gone south and it
no longer works on my system. I don't have a clue what may be the
problem! I was messing around making some more backgrounds and
installing aditional fonts. When I reloaded geos, the world screen in
the desktop was empty. I exited geos and listed the directory, all the
programs were present and accounted for. Reexecuting geos, showed
icons back on the desktop but when I attempt to launch them it reports
that it cannot find the resource manager or file.

Thinking something got clobbered, I reinstalled geos - same problem.
Finally went to bed to sleep on the problem. This morning, I ran
spinrite to make sure that the HD was acting ok and all is well. ran
geos - same symptoms. Decided to reload one more time but deleted
geos.ini to start anew. Reloaded, ran geos saw icons able to open
geowrite but cannot run another application. Exit geowrite, reenter it
and it says that it cannot write the untitled file. GEOS thinks disk
may be bad - spinrite reports all is well. Hands off for now since I
had to go to work.

When I get time, I am going to move the geoworks directory off my C
drive to my D Drive, erase all evidence of geos and reload the C
drive. Are there any other suggestions? I am fairly certain that I
didn't mess around with anything other than backgrounds and fonts. The
only thing I did in DOS was add another directory to my path and
dowmload Graphics Workshop. I have been using geos on my PC since V1
and have had no problems at all!

 Sign me 
Perplexed!
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Subject: No subject entered
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:38:15 GMT
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SIGNOFF PCGEOS-LIST Eric Hermes
From: simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Donald Simard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: geos broken
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:28:17 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


Do disk compression utilities like SSTOR not work with GEOS? I do not
recall the manual talking about not using them!
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From: jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey)
Subject: Dougherty and Pen Computing
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 00:08:43 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In Yesterday's (Dec. 20) NYTimes, Business Section, an article on
sub-sub-notebook computers quoted Brian
Dougherty of Geoworks on Pen-type applications.  So Geoworks seems
to have a considerable amount of visibility in this area.

Is this a hint to us all that the reason we're not seeing 2.0 or the SDK
is because the vast GW programming staff is predominantly occupied with the Pen/GEOS software? 
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From: dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: Re: PS printer on file?
Reply-To: doug-taylor+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:33:28 GMT

In article <EBU.92Dec20123924@lk-hp-14.hut.fi> ebu@snakemail.hut.fi (Erik Bunn) writes:
>
>I just had a chance to play around with GEOS for a bit. Looks snd
>feels nice, but I wasn't able to set a printer on a file.
>If I were to use GEOS at home, this would be necessary.

Your Subject: line implies that you want to print to a Postscript
printer.  If that's the case, then you're in luck.  When you have
selected a Postscript printer, the Print menu of GeoWrite (and
probably other GeoApps) gives you three option -- "Print", "Print to
file", and "Cancel".  You simply select "Print to file".

If you're using a different kind of printer, then things are a bit
more complicated.  You have to use a DOS TSR of some sort to capture
output to your printer port and save it to a file.  Novell's CAPTURE
utility will do it for you if you're hooked up to a NetWare LAN.

There's another program on the Simtel archives called VPRINT (I think;
someone will correct me if I'm wrong) that does the same thing.  It's
in the GeoWorks directory.  I don't know of a Finnish Simtel mirror
(Garbo maybe?), but if you want to try a trans-Atlantic ftp, check out
wuarchive.wustl.edu in /mirrors/msdos/geoworks.  If you have trouble
getting it, send me some e-mail and I'll see if I can be of further
help. 
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