HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: probert@fires1.uucp (Neal W. Probert)
Subject: FAX software for PPM 14400/FXSA ?
Reply-To: probert@fires1.srl.ford.com
Organization: Scientific Research Labs, Ford Motor Company
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:20:30 GMT

I just got a Practical Peripherals Modem 14400/FXSA.  It came with IBM
software, but I have a Mac II.  Does anybody know of any software that
will use the FAX capabilities of this modem?

Thanks.

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From: sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk (Sak Wathanasin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: SLIP for MAC
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:34:50 GMT
Reply-To: sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk
Organization: Network Analysis Ltd
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <michel.715517221@cst02> (comp.sys.mac.comm), michel@cst02.segin.com (Michel Pollet) writes:

> 	I have TCP/Connect II (MacTCP) and MacSLIP installed, and that's
> 	a mess, the transfert time is AWFULL !! TOTALY UNUSABLE. I fall

I use MacSLIP with a T3000 and have no problems with it; I regularly get around
1500 bytes/sec xfer rates from sumex (that's transatlantic for those whose
geography is a little weak :-).

That was with a IIfx. On a test shot with my PB170 and the Global Village
v32 (NB not v32bis) I only get around 600 bytes/sec. I don't get brilliant
xfer rates with zmodem either, so I suspect either slow disk transfers, power
mgr interrupts or something else, but I haven't had time to track this down.
(PB set to no "rest", sleep times at 15 mins).


Sak Wathanasin
Network Analysis Limited
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mandel@tmc.tulane.edu (Jeff E Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.os.vms,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Reading VMS Mail from Macintosh
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:29:20 GMT
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1775]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C412ECCF013009@mandel.anes.tulane.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 28 Aug 92 23:29:16 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

In article <2223@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu> Ramon J. Hontanon,
hontanon@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu writes:
>Does anybody know of a Mac application that will let me read/send mail
>from/to my VAX/VMS account?

The cheapest solution is to get IUPOP3 from logos.ucs.indiana.edu and
Eudora (multiple archives, including Sumex-aim). IUPOP3 runs under a
number of TCP/IP packages, including UCX. If you use a foreign mail
transport mechanism to get Internet mail to the VAX, you'll probably want
to hack the code that rewrites From: lines to make incoming mail
repliable. In any event, you'll need a C compiler.

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
From: bingham@malino.soest.hawaii.edu (Fred Bingham)
Subject: Re: return receipt
Organization: School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:28:14 GMT

I don't understand the debate about return receipts exactly.  If you need
a return receipt, just put a note at the top of the e-mail message
saying "Please acknowledge receipt of this message by replying to it."
Anyone needing confirmation that someone has seen a given message for
legal purposes should use means other than e-mail.

Fred Bingham (bingham@hokulea.soest.hawaii.edu)
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From: cherry@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu (Mike Cherry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: return receipt
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:09:00 GMT
Organization: Molecular Biology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug25.183236.11956@news.eng.convex.com>, tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes...
>From the keyboard of sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner):
>:But I can't yell at a spool file.  I want to know that a human has looked
>:at the mail.
> 
>It's none of anyone's business when I've looked at their mail.

It may be no one's business to know when you read your mail, but
read-receipts are important. For example, when you are delivering
information that needs to be acted on within a limited amount of time. It
is necessary to know if the message was delivered. There are projects
under development that will send lab reports and patient monitor alerts
via email. This would not be used for emergency alerts rather for the
types of information that gets transmitted by a paper report. However if
the report is not read an alternate would need to be notified. 

I'm not involved in this project, I'm just aware that it is underway
within the clinical side of MGH. 

On many Unix systems you can determine if someone has read their mail by
using finger. This is however one of those situations where the computer
can easily reduce personal privacy. 

Mike Cherry 
Molecular Biology 
Massachusetts General Hospital 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: korfhage@weston.poly.edu (Willard Korfhage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: XGator: how well does it work?
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:43:18 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York

We are developing a project that makes use of some very sizable data files (100's of MB). The people involved in the project are scattered all around the country. We would like for the people involved in the project to be able to able to try out the program without flying across the country. In addition, after the project is complete, if would be nice if anyone on the internet could try it out. XGator seems like it would fill our needs nicely, but how well does it work? I never was very successful getting 










the demo working. I would appreciate hearing of experiences with the product.

Another question: can one get Timbuktu or Carbon Copy to work over the internet?

Thanks

   Willard
From: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin, Girl Wonder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Nuntius: changing news server
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:56:43 GMT
Reply-To: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico

I cannot find a way to specify a new nntp server name to Nuntius.  The
first time I ran it it asked me for the server name.  Now I can go to
"News server..." under the Prefs menu and see the server name, but it does
not let me change it.  I have version 1.1.1d9.

Thanks.
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California State University, Chico  Computing Services
rgoldstone@oavax.csuchico.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Kim Holburn <kim@csc.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: MacTCP and the dreaded bad gateway
X-Xxdate: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:26:48 GMT
Organization: University of Canberra
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 02:11:10 GMT

Hi,
I configure and look after many macs. All different hardware and software 
configurations. We have a large internet which uses RIP. On rare
occasions 
MacTCP decides to put a reasonably arbitrary IP number in the Routing 
Information: Gateway Address. After that it refuses to work. Most of the
copies 
of MacTCP are locked, so when this happens I reinstall a new locked copy
of 
MacTCP and MacTCP Prep and delete MacTCP DNR and reboot. With special 
situations for instance Macs with static IPs etc. I can usually open
MacTCP and 
put 0.0.0.0 in the Gateway Address and reboot and everything works. 

Sometimes this doesn't work, in one case I am trying to fix right now
MacTCP 
accepts 0.0.0.0 as the gateway address and simply changes it back to the 
original bad gateway. If I change the Gateway Address to 0.0.0.0, close
MacTCP 
and then open it again immediately, it has changed back.

Aaaaaargh!! Anyone know what is happenning? We are not running bootp
protocol 
anywhere.

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From: Rob.Dewhirst@macrocosm.omahug.org (Rob Dewhirst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: RE: Have Suprafaxmodem wake-up when called?
Date: 01 Sep 92 13:53:56 CST
Reply-To: rob.dewhirst@macrocosm.omahug.org
Organization: The MacRocosm BBS, Lawrence, KS
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm



 FK> I know that with the Powerbooks, one can turn them off and 
 FK> have them automatically "wake-up" when a fax is sent to them. 
 FK> Question: is there any way to do this with a SupraFaxmodem 
 FK> (using the FaxSTF software) on a Mac II? 

Since the Mac II does not have a sleep mode, why do you want to wake it up?


 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Rob_Stokes.Operations@QMail.SSC.Gov (Rob Stokes)
Subject: MacTCP doesn't show up in 6.0.7 Control Panel
Organization: SSC Information Center
Distribution: USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:47:19 GMT

I have an AppleShare Server (][fx) running System 6.0.7.  I
installed MacTCP(v1.1) as I usually do, went to the Control Panel and
tried to configure it.  Much to my surprise, it wasn't there!
I turned AppleShare off, and even renamed the Server Folder back
to System Folder.  It still didn't show up.  The files are in the
correct folder.  Anyone have any ideas as to what's going on?
Rob Stokes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Glenn Stauffer <stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: Local printing w/ARAP network connection
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CA4CE855014335@mac3.beardsley.swarthmore.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:50:16 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:48:59 GMT

I'm having difficulties getting a computer that is connected to 
our network using an ARAP link to recognize its local printer.

The ARAP connection is using the modem port and the printer is connected 
directly to the printer port.  

The computer will not show the printer in the chooser window while it is 
connected to the network via ARAP.

Thanks for any tips.

Glenn Stauffer
Swarthmore College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Re: FTP bet. MAC and UNIX
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:11:00 GMT

Jungshik Shin writes
>    Reading FAQ of this group, I got to know what MAC binary is. But, still  
I
> have something to ask.  
> 
>    I succeeded in transferring MAC file(I tried with MS Word 5.0 file)
> from MAC to UNIX converting it manually (by MAC Binary program) and setting
> binary mode in FTP with MAC binary option turned off in NCSA Telnet. I  
could
> restore original MAC file by transferring MAC_BINARY file from MAC to UNIX
> and converting it into MAC file with MAC Binary program. 
> 
>   Also, I was able to have FTP (of NCSA telnet) automatically convert MAC 
> file into MAC Binary file while transferring from MAC to UNIX. And, I could
> get back original MAC file by moving MAC Binary to MAC and convrting it  
into
> o MAC file using MAC Binary program.
> 
>   Up to now, everything is normal. 
> 
>   My problem is I cannot convert MAC Binary file to MAC File while 
> transfering MAC Binary from UNIX to MAC by turning MAC binary s/w on
> in NCSA telnet. To my surprise, I could not find a file on MAC while FTP 
> program on UNIX said that transfer was complete. It's like a ghost. I 
> checked 'transfer directory' several times and a file did not exist where
> it's supposed to be.     
> 
>    MAC binary option (s/w) in NCSA telnet works only one-way(i.e.
> from MAC to Non-MAC  == converting MAC file to MAC Binary format) ,
> doesn't it?  If so, I have to change MAC binary into  MAC file(original,
> e.g. MS Word file) manually. I don't think this is the way 'MAC Binary s/w'
> in NCSA telnet is supposed to work. I guess there must be something I 
> don't know about FTP. Would you please help me with this.
> I would greatly appreciate any help.  

Why not just use Fetch 2.1 for your FTPing needs? It makes life SOOO much  
easier..
From: nicos@cs.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: FAX Software
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:35:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: nicos@csa


Is there someone that could help me find Fax software for the Mac
preferably FaxSTF?


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From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: X-client for Mac wanted
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:00:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Cayman Systems has one.
They call it Xgator.

I seem to recall that either Intercon's PlanetX or Cayman's Xgator is
really Xport.

--tony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: kellys@orac.holonet.net (Kelly Schwarzhoff)
Subject: Switcher box wanted
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:54:29 GMT

I'm looking for a switcher box that will plug into my modem port and then
allow me to plug multiple other devices (modems, MIDI connector, etc.). It
needs to support at least 3 devices, preferably 4.  

The hardest part is that it needs to support Hardware Handshaking. That's
because my modem (a Supra Fax modem V.32bis) requires hardware handshaking.

Does anyone know of anything that "fits the bill" and if so where I can
get it?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: csylvern@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Craig S Sylvern)
Subject: White Knight procedures
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: us
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:11:25 GMT


Is there a way to put an "If...then" type of condition in a White Knight 
procedure.  For example, when I login to my local node sometimes I have to hit 
return once sometimes twice before I get to my first prompt.  Is there a way to
tell WK to check to see if the prompt has appeared after the first return, if 
yes then continue with the procedure, if no then send another return?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Subject: Q: Current location of CAP/KIP source
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:52:26 GMT

Okay, can anyone tell me where the current versions of the
Columbia AppleTalk Protocol is archived.  I really need a
version of CAP that supports Phase-2 AppleTalk.  I assume
that that is now available.

Please respond by e-mail, as I usually don't follow this group.

Thanks,

    Randy


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From: Rick_McCormack@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick McCormack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ? magazines covering Multi-media?
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:25:55 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Well, Murphy was RIGHT! I threw out a few files last week, and
today discovered that one I need now was among the casualties.

Could someone send me a copy of the list of magazines that deal
specifically with multimedia?

OR

Point me to an ftp site where such a list lives?

[Abject apologies for stupid behaviour which makes this posting
necessary. And abundant thanks for answers to this quest. :-)  ]

Rick McCormack
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:56:31 EDT
From: Bob Sams <UIJ@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: MS Mail 3.0

Has anyone ever determined what is going on while the MS Mail server continuous
ly does disc accesses?  Our server, a Mac+ with 2.5 meg ram and 20 meg hd, sits
 and does triplett seeks ALL DAY LONG. If you have the machine in the room with
 you, it'll drive you nuts!  Besides, what does it do to the MTBF for the disc?
I'll be glad to summarize the responses to the net.
Thanks
Bob Sams     uij@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gweil@ichips.intel.com (Garry A. Weil)
Subject: Communications ToolBox:What is it?
Summary: What is it?
Keywords: Communications ToolBox system7
Organization: MultiMedia Software Tools Group, Intel Corp.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:02:50 GMT

Browsing some Mac archive sites, I have seen many references to this 
Communications ToolBox or Communications ToolBox aware apps. What is this 
thing? WHy would I want/need it?
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gweil@garry.intel.com				  gweil@garry.ht.intel.com
garry_weil@ccm.hf.intel.com			  garry_weil@htccm2.ht.intel.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Tom Morrison <morrison@bioscience.utah.edu>
Subject: FTPd troubles
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:50:26 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Biology, Univ. of Utah
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 08: 50:40 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CA93509B01C395@ls-20.biology.utah.edu>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

For a few months now, I've been using FTPd with out problems.  However,
twice in the last week my FTP attempts into the server have failed. 
(E.g., I get the message 'opening connection' from Xferit until
time-out.) 

I have to warm boot to get FTPd working again.

I think the culprit is AppleTalk Remote Access.  I just started using it
on the same machine running FTPd.  The problems with FTPd began happening
after I started using ARA.

Does anyone else know about conflicts between ARA and FTPd? 
(I've forwarded this message to the author of FTPd)

Tom
morrison@bioscience.utah.edu
From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: FAX Software
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:22:57 GMT
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: nicos@cs.bu.edu's message of 27 Aug 92 16:35:18 GMT

In article <94747@bu.edu> nicos@cs.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos) writes:

>Is there someone that could help me find Fax software for the Mac
>preferably FaxSTF?
>


Mac's Place sells FaxSTF.  The solo version is $59, I think.

It's a good package (v 2.2.2).  I bought it recently, and love it.

jas
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From: hontanon@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Ramon J. Hontanon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.os.vms,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Reading VMS Mail from Macintosh
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:07:31 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm

Does anybody know of a Mac application that will let me read/send mail
from/to my VAX/VMS account?

Thanks in advance.

Ramon@fdavax.cber.nih.gov
From: davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (David Morgenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ZyXEL U-1496E and MP II 3.0 driver
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:08:30 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento

I just bought a ZyXEL U-1496E and am wondering which driver to use
for MicroPhone II 3.0x? I haven't started fooling around with the
ones I have yet (and am sending this with my trusty Supra 2400)...
  
Does anyone have any suggestions? Any ZyXEL tips? It's a pretty bad
name, U-1496E... the ZyXel Swell-14 might have been snappier.
  
daviD
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From: newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Virtual memory kills hardware flow control
Date: 27 Aug 1992 22:02:29 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: mohawk.cs.utexas.edu

I have been trying to get hardware flow control working between a IIsi
and a SupraFAX v.32bis modem and have noticed something interesting.
It appears that when virtual memory is enabled, the Mac no longer
correctly performs hardware flow control.  I have also observed this
(but with very limited testing) on a Quadra 700.

If anyone out there can or cannot reproduce this, I would like to hear
from you.  It will help me to get Apple's attention (not easy!) and
make me more sure of myself. 

Here's how you test.  You need to be using a v42 bis modem that runs
at 9600 or 14400 bps.  Use Zterm 0.9 and upload (send *from* your Mac)
a file of at least 100k.  Downloading is not a good test.  I used a
gif file.  You must use the zmodem file transfer protocol since most
others do not need working flow control.  Set ZTerm's speed to 57600.
I can also produce the problem with ZTerm set to 19200.  If you can
send the file with no retries when virtual memory is off but cannot
when it is on, you are seeing the problem.  Of course, you need to use
a hardware flow control modem cable and set Zterm to use hardware flow
control. 

I am beginning to believe that Apple has a seriously braindead concept
of what constitutes hardware flow control.  The only Mac that I have
tried that appears to get it right is an LC (no MMU hence no virtual
memory).  If this is true, it means that many Macs cannot optimally
use modern high speed modems. 

In case it matters, the IIsi is running 7.0.1 with tuneup and has 5 MB
RAM.  I have also observed failure with a Motorola modem and two other
hardware flow control cables.
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From: johanna.mingo@canrem.com (johanna mingo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: test (please ignore)
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:50:01 GMT
Reply-To: "johanna mingo" <johanna.mingo@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Please ignore this (I'm just trying to see of I can get a PC-Board 
system to post to a USenet group via Freddie).




 This copy of Freddie 1.2 is being evaluated.
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