From: bis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Bis)
Subject: Re: Email Copy of REPUBLICAN PLATFORM to me
Organization: Bis Information Services
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:19:29 GMT

In article <exuptr.471.716142599@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.131533.25653@news.cs.brandeis.edu> bis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Bis) writes:
>>In article <exuptr.443.716051820@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep6.153239.18298@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>>>
>>>>BBC, hoping to see GHWB crash and
>>>>burn in November.
>>>
>>>Probably will.  Just hope the democrats don't crash and burn our economy :-)
>
>>Too late.  Ronnie already did that.  Yes, any clueless people who
>>might be reading this, RONNIE destroyed the economy, NOT George Bush!
>
>You are clueless.  And all those who think that the president runs the
>country.

I didn't state a principle, you dipshit, I made very specific
statement.  I didn't say "whenever the economy is bad, it's the
president's fault", I said that Ronald Reagan is the one who destroyed
the economy.  Your remark doesn't follow.

>          We have a Congress that can't even balance their personal checking
>accounts.  Only a moron would fail to see the connection between personal
>hot checks and a HUGE national debt.

No, only a moron--an incredibly naive moron that doesn't know shit
about government and doesn't understand finances--would say something
as outrageously ludicrous as that Congress's check bouncing is
responsible for the national debt.

Since you're obviously very clueless, let me clue you in:

CLUE:  The total amount of money on the bounced checks doesn't even
  amount to 1/10 of 1% of the nation debt!

CLUE:  Deficit spending is what amassed the national debt!

CLUE:  The check bouncing only got out of hand in the past few years.
  Reagan's voodoo economics started driving the defict, and
  consequently the national debt, into the sky in the early 80's.  By
  1984 things had gotten so out of hand that Reagan no longer even had
  reducing the national debt and balancing the budget on his campaign
  platform!

CLUE:  Bounced checks CANNOT incur a debt, no matter how much money
  they're written for.  Since you are obviously a child who has never
  had a bank account and does not understand banking, allow me to
  explain it to you:  Checks are vouchers for money.  When a check is
  cashed, the amount is withdrawn from the account of the person who
  wrote the check.  If the account lacks sufficient funds, the
  transfer is not made, and the check is returned.  Then the check can
  be cashed again.  The monetary gain/loss for both parties is no
  different in the end if the check bounces than if it doesn't.  The
  one exception to that is that most banks impose a fine for writing a 
  check that bounces.  The Congressional bank previously did not
  impose such fines, and many congresspeople were criticized for
  abusing that privilege.

Summary of CLUEs:  While the check bouncing has generated a huge
  public hysteria regarding the "privileged life" enjoyed by the
  "ruling elite", it has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the state of
  the economy!

Recommendation:  Get a CLUE!

>>Does this mean Bush is free of fault?  Of course not.  What did he do?
>>Well...nothing.  :)
>
>Yes, like it's up to him and only him.  What has Congress done?  Less than
>nothing.

Hey, they tried, but Bush vetoed (or is that "vetod"?  Let's ask the
Vice President about that one, he's the expert...) their budgets for
having the audacity to try to sneak by changes to the sacred Status
Quo (I'm certain the White House staff capitalizes that).

And what about the Reagan years, which is when the economy was
condemned to collapse?  Congress did pass most of Reagan's economic
programs, particularly in the early 80s.  Yeah, I suppose you can
blame Congress--for cooperating with Ronnie the Senile Fuckhead
Reagan.