From: mb@zzzzzz.cray.com (Maynard Brandt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikings game
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:32:36 GMT
Reply-To: mb@zzzzzz.cray.com (Maynard Brandt)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.  Eagan, MN.

In article <1992Nov9.185712.6542@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, kenb@ssec.wisc.edu (Ken 'TEX' Bywaters) writes:
>In article <hatfield.721271999@s6.math.umn.edu> hatfield@s6.math.umn.edu (Gary Hatfield) writes:
>>mjb10@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael J. Bumbulis) writes:
 
>   I agree that the Vikings do not seem to be a fluke.  I was surprised to
>see that TB actually outgained Minnesota something like 360 - 295 yds.  Why
>was this?  Did TB get a lot of trash yards towards the end of the game?
>
Yes.  When the score was 35-0, I seem to recall a TV graphic showing the yardage
about equal.  Around that time Green put the subs in on defense and TB threw
alot of pass completions which kept the clock moving.  Prior to that TB had
been inside the Vikings 20 4 times without a score (2 missed field goals and
2 failed 4th downs).  As in the Bears game, 2 of the Vikings touchdowns were
scored by the defense (giving them 5 for the season, 2 away from their season
team record with 7 games remaining) so the defense beat TB 12-7 (Reveiz doesn't
play much defense) all by themselves.  The halftime score was 28-0 and the Vikings
pretty much played run-out-the-clock the second half.

>I also noticed today that the NFC Central has a 2-9 record in the NFC outside
>of their division.  That compares to a 9-4 record by the NFC East.  Any doubt
>as to the toughest division in football?
>
The Vikings have only played 2 games outside the Central division in their
first 9.  They are 1-1 in those games.  They lost to the Redskins 15-13 when
Chip Lohmiller, who went to the U. of Minn. and is quite familiar with the
Metrodome, went 5-5 in field goal attempts.  One of his field goals was for
45 yards.  It should have been a 55 yard attempt.  The refs called Al Noga
for being offside on the previous play and the film clearly shows 2 Redskin
linemen being in motion prior to any movement by Noga.  Properly penalizing the
Redskins and not the Vikings adds 10 yards.  I am not saying the Vikings would
have won; Lohmiller's kick was accurate and long enough to have been good from 55,
but it is easier to kick a 45 yard field goal 10 yards past the crossbar than a
55 yard field goal just over the crossbar (you need better accuracy) and Gibbs
may have chose to punt instead from that distance.  Taking 3 points away from
the Redskins could have made the score 13-9 forcing the Redskins to score
a touchdown rather than kick a field goal to win the game in the final minutes.
I am saying the Redskin win was at least tainted.

6 of the Viking's last 7 games are outside their division.  Let's see how they
fare in those games before making any chest thumping comments.  You might ask
Joe Gibbs who has been their toughest opponent so far.  From what I've seen, he
has made some rather complimentary statements about the Vikings.  Then again,
maybe the NFC East is the toughest (might get an argument from the 49er's or
the Saints on that one).  So what?  They can beat the tar out of each other
during the regular season and someone else will walk away with the NFC title.
    
>On a side note:  when was the last time an AFC team won a SB?  It seems to me
>it was 1983, but that's where my memory fails me.
>
>-Ken Bywaters
>
>p.s.  Go Dallas!
>
-- 
Regards,

Maynard Brandt
Cray Research, Inc.
mb@lotus.cray.com
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