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From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: XE questions etc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:00:20 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Well, I was going to reply somewhere else, but since you need the same info:
One of the best/first Atari only stores is;
B&C ComputerVisions
2730 Scott Boulevard
Santa Clara, CA 95050
(408)986-9960
They do everything from 8-bit to ST, repair, parts, etc. They still have
a good selection of just about everything ever made by Atari. Prices run
from $8 to about $25 for new software. They have packages of 800 replacement
boards for about $30 & reconditioned 800's for $59 with Star Raiders. Ask for
their catalogue, you won't be dissapointed.
American Techna-Vision
15338 Inverness St
San Leandro, CA 94579
1-(800)551-9995 or (510)352-3787
They offer just about the same service as B&C, but parts run a little cheaper
For instance, they sell a complete 800 board kit for $28.50! In other words,
if you have an 800 with everything but the keyboard & case fried, you can get
it running again for less then $30. They also have the Newell 1 meg upgrades
& drive parts.
San Jose Computer
Alma Ct (I forgot the sweet number)
San Jose, CA
They have a lot of stuff, you can (408) 555-1212 for the number if you have
to. I sorta like these guys: When I was looking for a 1772 controller for
my xf551 they offered to pull one out of an old drive for me at a couple of
bucks.
There's obviously a lot more stores that handle Atari, sorry for the
omissions. If you can really wait, don't mind spending a fortune on LD,
there's also Compucat. It's the first BBS/Store I ever heard of & they've
seperated me from major amounts of money. I believe Atari has cut them off
as a regular supplier, but they still have some of the best connections
around. May not be the best price since they have to go through a distibuter,
but their prices are cost +10% (408)353-4669
From: a644690c@edinboro.edu ("Adam J. Conover")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Memory Pointers Question.
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:24:11 GMT

I have been perusing 'Mapping...' and I am not sure I understand a few things.
There are Two memory locations that claim to be MEMTOP: 741,742 and 144,145.
What is the difference?  Are they always the same?

As for the other locations, is this one possible configuration?

-----------------
|   OS  ROM     |
-----------------   RAMTOP   (106)
| screen mem    |
-----------------   MEMTOP   (741,742  or pg.0 144,145)
| Free Mem      |
-----------------   APPMHI   (14,15)
| Basic Prog.   |
-----------------   MEMLO    (743,744)
| Free mem      |
-----------------   LOMEM    (128,129)
|    DOS        |
-----------------   RAMLO    (4,5)
| p.0 & OS RAM  |
-----------------

Would this be correct for a possible memory set up? (ie. a user ML routine
between LOMEM and MEMLO).

Also:  Does any know how to use the built in Relocatable Handler Routines
in the XL/XE OS?

Thanks a lot.......

Peace,                               | '...expanding exponentially
-Adam Conover                        |  like some recursive virus...'
    a644690c@edinboro.edu            |                         -Phish.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: New at the Archive...
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-28824]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:33:20 GMT

Just sent to the Atari arcives at UMich, Dean Garraghty's Issue 6 news disk.
The disk is in DCM format and can be found in the Atari/8bit/New section.

Also, Dean has released his DMS to public domain... as soon as I Diskcomm
both sides of the disk, I'll send them to the Archive.

Mike...


______________________________________________________________________________
  Sherry L. Snyder L.P.N.                         Mike Todd - Publications.
  Tulane Dept. of Dermatology                    Tulane Dept. of Dermatology
  snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu                dt01mws@music.tcs.tulane.edu
  New Orleans, Louisiana.                           Psychedelic Daydreams  
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude)
Subject: Re: 2600 hack
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:33:32 GMT

In article <9207281428.AA11197@brachot.jct.ac.il> bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay Chamie1) writes:
>If the 2600 game system was such a large hunk of crap, what was it doing in
>the marketplace in the first place?                             - Itay

Wasn't this same question asked a few weeks ago?

- Ted
From: Amos.Jackson@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Amos Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Pt 1/2: Classic Atari Cartridges
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:49:01 GMT

One cart that was missed was Smart Terminal rev 4.1 (c) 1983 by  Microbits
Peripheral Products, Inc.  All of the information that has  
has been typed above is being taken off of the main menu of the cart as I have
it booted up on a 320K XE and plugged into the top of a SpartaDOS X cart.  This
is THE FIRST terminal program that was placed in cart form for the Atari 8-bit.
 
Amos Jackson

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: PSAN
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:39:28 GMT

I am looking for issues (back and current) for the PSAN (puget sound
atari news) magazine. Are they still printing that excellent document?
Is there a phone number and name I can get to contact them???
.
James King aka Kamaro Kid
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: nlin@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Norman Lin)
Subject: Touch Tablet: need pinouts!
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:27:20 GMT

After hitting a garage sale and misc.forsale, I have assembled myself a(nother)
small working Atari system; Atari 400 + cassette drive + miscellaneous
hardware.  Among this miscellaneous hardware is an Atari Touch Tablet.
I'd like to try to use it with my "AtariArtist" cartridge, but unfortunately
the connector (that goes into the joystick port) for the touch tablet has
been ripped apart, leaving only wires.  Reassembling the connector would be
easy if I knew which wires go to which pins.

So does anyone know which wires (i.e. purple goes to pin 5, white goes to pin
9, etc.) go to which pins on the Atari Touch Tablet?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Norman Lin
norlin@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu / norlin@129.15.20.2 (preferred)
nlin@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu                  (alternate)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: xx140@yfn.ysu.edu (Atari SIG Sysops)
Subject: Re: Piracy, morals and Microsoft employees
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:11:23 GMT


So in all of this discussion..no one has seem to come up with a 
solution.  It is apparent that we have a computer that is useless
 wtihout software. Point: You can't buy the software!
So, what do we do? 
In the very least, the Atari Corp. has an implied warranty with it's
 consumers, namely that it's computers would be suitable for the 
purposes for which it was advertised..
It is not!  Therefore, I suggest the following:

1.) The Atari corp must take the lead in this matter..releasing all
8bit software that is under their control to the public domain, perhaps
establishing a BBS for user access..ideally both the sofware and the 
Source Codes..This seems only fair, since 8-bit users have indeed 
spent considerable sums which have directly benefited the Atari Corp.

2.) If not, then any person who buys an Atari product is CRAZY !
Sorry to say, but ST users are setting thmselves up for the same fall that we have taken.  There is NO WAY 
that I will invest my money in an Atari product until I see some 
change in the way this corp treats it's customers.  I think that anyone 
who feels the same way should let these people know about it.


Why take this crap?  We are the customers, so we are right.

What do you say..BOYCOTT ATARI and let them know about it!

Hope this loosens up some of those tight assed execs..
-- 
**********
  YSU Freenet Atari SIG Sysops
  Internet:  xx140@yfn.ysu.edu
**********
From: jeffh@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jeff Hunsinger-MUX_Tech)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: RE: Old Software
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:51:39 GMT
Organization: Motorola Inc.  Austin, Tx.

OK, sorry about the confusion. Please address all private responses and/or
flames to:
jeffh@apache.mot.com

By the way, I do not own a single piece of pirated Atari software. I am just
frustrated that I can not find any legal copies anywhere...

Jeff
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Skipping levels in Miner 2049er
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 22:56:09 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Mark Fontana writes:

>A few days ago, someone mentioned that you can skip levels in Miner 2049er
>by typing Big Five's phone number.  I'd never heard of this before, so I
>loaded up the game and started messing with it, but couldn't get it to work.
>
>Could someone please explain precisely when and what I'm supposed to type?

First, let the "introduction" screen play long enough to actually see
where Big Five's telephone number comes up.  Jot it down, WITH area code.

Then, while playing the game, type the digits of the telephone number,
with area code.  No punctuation, just the ten digits themselves.

After that, you can hold down SHIFT-CONTROL plus any digit, and instantly
jump to that level.  Voila!

(Incidentally, I remember once seeing a version of Miner 2049'er that someone
had hacked to provide an "intro screen" that let you give yourself as many
lives as you wanted and start on whatever level you wanted.  I guess THAT
person didn't know the existing "cheat" either! :-)  )

(I find the SHIFT-CONTROL-digit thing handy when pressed the INSTANT I GET
KILLED, even just to re-invoke the level I just DIED on -- because you 
don't get "deducted" one life and can play "forever."  Hmm, maybe it's
actually that you have to press it the moment you see that you're GOING
to get killed (i.e. while in the midst of a fall from a height, before
actual impact.)

Enjoy!

  Chris Chiesa
   Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jewison@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Mike Jewison)
Subject: SIO2PC/UltraSpeed+ OS problem
Followup-To: jewison@centaur.astro.utoronto.ca
Keywords: SIO2PC, US+ OS, problems (Geez, read the subject line, will ya ;-)
Organization: University of Toronto Dept. of Astronomy
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:26:44 GMT

OK, guys.  I've got a problem for you and the answer is not intuitively
obvious to me.

I have an 800XL to which I have added a TransKey and the UltraSpeed+ OS from
CSS.  I also have built an SIO2PC interface, which I've just upgraded to
version 3.03.  Here's the problem:

Under the previous version of the SIO2PC software I was running, 2.12, I had
no problems with my hardware configuration.  With version 3.03, I cannot boot
from the SIO2PC while the XL is running in US+ mode.  My monitor speaker
spits out that horrible raspberry sound you get during a device timeout and I
end up in the US+ self-test mode, indicating that the computer doesn't believe
there's a drive attached.  However, if I flip the switch on the OS chip so that 
I'm running either the standard XL/XE operating system or else the XL-Fix OS 
(basically a 400/800 OS) then the SIO2PC will boot just fine.  It times out 
only in US+ mode which is unfortunate since I want to use the built-in
ramdisk handlers in the US+.

I haven't yet pursued this with either Bob Puff or Nick Kennedy, but I was
wondering if anyone would have any insights into this dilemma.  My guess is
that some change in the SIO2PC software from v2.12 to v3.03 is now adversely
interacting with some nuance of the US+ OS.  But what?

Feel free to post if you like, but I've directed followups to me directly; I'll 
summarize the results in two weeks when I return from vacation.

- Mike Jewison
  David Dunlap Observatory
  University of Toronto
  jewison@centaur.astro.utoronto.ca  [for now]

     *** DISCLAIMER:  I'm not an astronomer, but I play one on TV. ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: nickd@vpnet.chi.il.us (Nicholas J. DiMasi)
Subject: Re: Switching the OS.
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:29:11 GMT

In article <0095DBB8A87B3540.20602038@edinboro.edu> a644690c@edinboro.edu ("Adam J. Conover") writes:
>> Wasn't there something (I think it was for 800's only...ok..is there 
>> anything for non-800's then) that let you have multiple OS's hooked up 
>> and you could switch between them?  It wouldn't be too difficult, would 
>> it?  (pretty dangerous, I'll guess, with the power ON tho!)
>
>> Say____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
>> Hi PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \ 
>> if moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
>> in __________________________________
>> NJ!                     July 17, 1992
>
>I don't know much about the 800s but it is relatively easy to simply stack
>several OS ROMs and run wires from the chip select lines to a switch (making
>sure the proper pull up resistors are used, etc.).  Just flip a switch and
>you into a new OS.  No need to power off.  The most you can do is crash the 
>system since you are just toggling a select line.
>.....

Newell Industries used to / does sell a  little  board  that  would  switch
between  OS  ROMs  on  an XL/XE.  It's called a Ramrod.  I bought one along
with an OmniView chip and destroyed my first 130XE trying to solder  it  in
myself  (I was ignorant of the damage that even a 25W soldering iron can do
to a multi [dual] layer PC board).  It would have cost  about  3/4  of  the
cost  of  a  new 130XE to repair it, said the repair shop, and we can put a
socket in a new 130XE for the cost of the socket  (plus  the  up-front  fee
that  this place charges at the storefront).  So I bought a new 130XE (this
was around 1985/86) and had the shop put the socket in.  I  wrote  off  the
Ramrod  (it was soldered  into  the  old XE board) but I sometimes wish I'd
bothered to put it in.  (I still could, but I'd have to  desolder  it  from
the  old  XE's  board  first,  and  cut a hole in the new XE's shielding, a
switch hole in the case to avoid "hangy wires", etc.)  But  there  are  few
programs  that  I  have tried (not that I've tried thousands, but...)  that
just won't run under the OmniView OS.  The @#$%^&* Electronic Arts  _______
Construction  Set programs won't: "Remove Custom OS" is what the protection
kludge told me.  So I 'removed' the EA programs - sold/gave-away all two of
them I had been given by a former 8-bitter.  Letter Wizard won't, but it is
a yukky WP anyway, OmniWriter 80 is better.  And so on.  The only regret is
that Ace of Aces (cart.) wouldn't work.

Nick DiMasi            Internet:  nickd@vpnet.chi.il.us
                       Delphi: TURBONICK
From: Amos.Jackson@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Amos Jackson)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Old Software
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:40:00 -0600

No, I meant the one Jeff W. posted about how he used to pirate software, but got
out of it.
 
Amos Jackson

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From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Microsoft BASIC II
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 06:48:15 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dang -  _I_ have the MicroSoft BASIC II cart, manual -- and NO DISK -- too!
Can someone supply ME with it now that we're on a roll here???

Chris Chiesa
  Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System)
Subject: Re: Microsoft BASIC II
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:45:05 GMT

Contact me on the Citadel BBS at 801-965-8450 (in Utah) and we will make
arrangements to get you the Microsoft disk... Leave me [F]eedback once
onlne..
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
From: a644690c@edinboro.edu ("Adam J. Conover")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SDX question (to Amos Jackson).
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:50:04 GMT

[.......]
> I own several versions of SpartaDOS from version 1.1 to 4.20 (the X cart).  It
> is my DOS of choice and I use it daily, along with around 250 utilities (most
> pertaining to 3.2d, but work well with the X cart).

Could you send me a directory dump of these?  I am looking to collect a
list of filenames.  Are they PD/Shareware???  If so, could I arrange to get
a copy of your collection?? (I think I already own all the commercial utils). 

> As an example, I found a bug in the X cart yesterday, that pertains to the
> command.com module in the cart.  Just fiddling around I turned on my system
> (Newell 1 MEG 800XL, 1 MEG MIO, and hard drive, and typed the following:
>  
> TIME
> DATE
> KEY ON
> COMMAND
I am confused about this.  TIME, DATE, and KEY on are all fine, but what
is COMMAND for?  Isn't this just loading COMMAND.COM back on top of itself?

> PATH ON
What is PATH ON?  PATH is an environmental not a command.  PATH ON would
just set PATH=ON and PATH needs to be a series of directories.

> IBM ON
IBM ON ???  There is not and IBM command on the SDX cart!  (There is an IBM
command as part of PROKEY.COM but that only works with SD3.2)  I have also
noticed that no error is produced if I type an invalid command after typing
COMMAND.  It simply ignores the line.

> ?
This just loads a file with a one charactor filename.  In most cases this
is X.COM from the cart.
  
> After hitting return on the question mark line, the system locked up.  It locked
> up 5 out of 5 times.

I tried this sequence with no lock-up, only an invalid parameter on the ? line.
All of this is based on a 256k 800xl (RAMbo), 1 meg MIO, with SDX (4.19).

[......]
> Amos Jackson
> 
>  * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)


-Adam Conover.
	a644690c@edinboro.edu
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: AMODEM/interfacing BASIC w/ modem
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 20:24:51 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

UJ1G@DKAUNI2.BITNET writes:

> 
> 
> > From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
> > ...         I can't think of any commercial programs that were developed
> > in TB, but there were quite a few in Action!          ...
> 
> Oh, they are some commercial programs written in Turbo Basic XL.
> I know of at least 3, two being a database programs and one
> a kind of program for developing electronic circuits.
> Not very good ones, I admit.
> 
> Marek Tomczyk
> uj1g@dkauni2.bitnet

Just remembered.  From what I recall Dean Garraghty's "Digi-Studio" is in 
TBXL.. right?
>IT'S< commercial.

    "Be seeing you!"
Say|____________9_year_veteran_ ||| __
Hi |PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
if |moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
in |__________________________________
NJ!|                     July 25, 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: Modem still wanted!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:01:55 GMT


In article <1992Jul23.040854.11854@a.cs.okstate.edu> cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI) writes:
>Got an SX212?  An 850 or a P:r: connection you would like to see in use?
>I have a newbie 8bit user that I can't get software to!  If he can find
>a cheap way to interface with a serial modem (or serial link) or a phone line
>I'll cram the archives onto his floppies!

I have an R-Verter, with the original manual and disk, which still works
(tested just a few weeks ago). Make me an offer (cash or trade) if
you're interested. (HINT: Journey to the Planets would really pique my
interest ;-)
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Tuesday, 21 Jul 1992 17:55:34 EST
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SDX
Distribution: world

I never heard of the  ECHO utility for SpartaDOS X.  Does anybody have
it, and could they send it to the archive for the rest of us?

Jeff McWilliams
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: 160 x 192 x 16 mode
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 22:08:54 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I'm wondering how difficult it would be to make a 160 x 192 x 16 shade 
mode.  It would come in very handy, esp. when making Computer Eyes 
captures (unfortunately, there'd have to be a program made specifically 
for doing the 16 shade mode... or perhaps since I believe the capture 
software (the "Executive") is in the PD, someone could just add this 
feature onto it.)   Anyways.  I see it being done just like a Pryzm mode, 
except instead of using alternating 80 x 192 x 16 grey/color modes, just 
alternating 160 x 192 x 4 grey screens. (page flipping, or doing it like 
APAC interlaced and EscalPaint do it..)  Another neat idea is a 256 grey 
shade mode (80 x 192 .. I've made 80 x 96 by altering the APACmode code I 
have) or even 256 color mode done with 2 80 x 192 x 16 COLOR screens, 
instead of 1 80 x 192 x 16 color and 1 80 x 192 x 16 grey screen.  
Perhaps one screen would have a lower luminence value than the other?  
I'm not sure what exact purposes any of these modes except the 160 x 192 
x 16 grey would have, but they all seem pretty easy to design because 
they are only variations on exsisting graphics modes.

Anyways..       anyone up to it?        Also.. does anyone have code for 
Pryzm/EscalPaint/Interlaced APAC modes (esp.easily added to a BASIC 
program ;-)  ).  I'm beginning to find 80 x 96 as a little blocky.

Thanx in advance for the latter.  All comments welcome on the 1st bit.
                                                        later   Bill
(constantly looking for niftier graphics modes!)

"Be seeing you!"
___________________________ ||| __
PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
__________________________________
                     July 30, 1992
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari monitor cable
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:11:13 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

I've built a couple monitor cables for my Ataries, but I've always built
the cables to match my monitor - that is, I used only the luma when I had a
monochrome monitor and I used only the composite when I had a color monitor
(I never owned a monitor that used both signals such as the Commodore
1702).  All the parts are readily available from Radio Shack. I often
looped the composite and audio signals through our VCR.  By doing this I
could use my Atari as a cheap animated video titling machine (of course,
without genlock I couldn't overlay images - but it certainly dressed up the
home movies).  Of course this isn't a direct response to the question about
putting signals from the Atari into a SVHS deck, but I thought someone
might be interested in the idea.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Jim Johnson-
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