From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet
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Subject: Re: Gagging at the mess of "visser the revisionist"s lies.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:48:43 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <visser.721977795@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

+>>Come on, Argic-efendi, don't call Vissar a liar.

+>Don't insult our collective low intelligence. This historical 
+>revisionist is a compulsive liar whether you like it or not.

>	And you are a coward who posts from a site that does not exist
>under a name that is not your own. You are too much of a coward to 

Are you liar for real? People will think you're just some looney
howling in the wires. In any event, I am still waiting for your 
views on the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslims between 1914
and 1920, which by the way was presented in its full form and not
just quoted in excerpts.

1) Did Armenians slaughter 62% of Muslim population of Van?
2) Did Armenians slaughter 42% of Muslim population of Bitlis?
3) Did Armenians slaughter 31% of Muslim population of Erzurum?
4) Did Armenians slaughter 26% of Muslim population of Diyarbakir?
5) Did Armenians slaughter 16% of Muslim population of Mamuretulaziz?
6) Did Armenians slaughter 15% of Muslim population of Sivas?
7) Did Armenians slaughter the entire Muslim population of the Armenian
   Dictatorship?

There is only one answer to questions 1-7. And that is a resounding 
'yes.'[1,2,3] 

[1] J. McCarthy, "Armenian Terrorism: History as Poison and Antidote," 1984.
[2] K. Karpat, "Ottoman Population 1830-1914," The Univ. of Wisconsin Press,
    1985.
[3] R. Hovannisian, "Armenia On The Road To Independence," 1967, p. 37.

Leading the first Armenian units who crossed the Ottoman border in the 
company of the Russian invaders was the former Ottoman Parliamentary 
representative for Erzurum, Karekin Pastirmaciyan, who now assumed the 
revolutionary name Armen Garo. Another former Ottoman parliamentarian, 
Hamparsum Boyaciyan, led the Armenian guerrilla forces who ravaged 
Turkish villages behind the lines under the nickname "Murad", especially
ordering that 

 "Turkish children also should be killed as they form a danger to the 
  Armenian nation." 

Another former Member of Parliament, Papazyan, led the Armenian 
guerrilla forces that ravaged the areas of Van, Bitlis and Mush.

In March 1915, the Russian forces began to move toward Van. Immediately,
in April 11, 1915 the Armenians of Van began a revolt, massacring all 
the Turks in the vicinity so as to make possible its quick and easy 
conquest by Russians. Little wonder that Czar Nicholas II sent a 
telegram of thanks to the Armenian Revolutionary Committee of Van in 
April 21, 1915, "thanking it for its services to Russia." The Armenian 
newspaper Gochnak, published in the United States, also proudly 
reported in May 24, 1915 that 

"only 1,500 Turks remained in Van the rest having been slaughtered."

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)