From: goodwin@orionsci (Ben Goodwin)
Subject: Re: Lacarno = Kirk (Spoilers "1st Duty)
Reply-To: goodwin@orionsci.UUCP (Ben Goodwin)
Organization: Orion Scientific, Inc.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 13:58:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.025346.17951@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> apearlma@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pearlman) writes:
>In article <1992Apr07.120357.25839@orionsci> goodwin@orionsci.UUCP (Ben Goodwin) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr5.182703.14439@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> apearlma@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pearlman) writes:
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>>>Kirk couldn't deal with the no-win scenario at that time and neither could
>>>Locarno.
>>>
>>>Andy Pearlman
>>
>>Um, what are you talking about?  Kirk reprogrammed the computer to let
>>him win, but he didn't expect to get away with it.  He was just angry
>>and decided that he was going to show the instructers that he wasn't
>>willing to accept the no-win scenario.  His reprogramming was very
>>clever and I would secretly commend him for it and then make sure nobody
>>ever found out what he had done.
>
>His reprogramming violates the honor code, is breaking and entering,
>probably destruction of school property.  I find Kirk's action rather
>petty actually.  At least Locarno's action showed he was trying to be
>one of the best pilots ever.

I don't agree with the previous assesment.  First the Maru was a psychological
test which Kirk found repulsive.  What do you mean, destruction of school
property?  He didn't destroy the computer, just tweaked it a bit.

Secondly, comparing Kirk's rebellion against the no-win situation thrust
upon him by the Psychs and Locarno's self serving dream to be remembered
as the cadet who did the whatever-burst is illogical.  Kirk didn't beat
the simulation so that he could brag to the other students.  I think it
was stated that he did it because he would not accept the scenario.

Kirk wasn't in a no-win situation.  he ran a simulation with a no-win
simulation.  You yourself state that "Locarno's action showed he was
trying to be one of the best pilots ever." BY RISKING THE LIVES OF HIS
TEAM IN A DANGEROUS AND OUTLAWED MANEUVER.  How can you compare that
with Kirk's reprogramming of a computer?  Be Real!

>
>
>>As for Locarno, you make no sense.  Locarno was a legend in the academy
>>already because he had lead the team to some sort of victory at an
>>air show.  He was unsatisfied and risked the lives of his team mates
>
>Then explain why Picard says he would become a legend had he pulled it off
>in front of the assembled audiences for commencement.  He's a legend to
>the members of the academy, but not to anyone else.
>

So you admit that he risked a foolish and dangerous stunt for personal
gain.  You want to compare this with any stunts Kirk pulled for the
same reason?  I can't think of any.

>>Your comparison between Kirk's reprogramming the Computer in Kobyashi
>>Maru and Locarno's foolish actions makes no sense. Locarno was not in
>>a no-win scenario.
>
>Tell me a possible action that Locarno can take without resulting in
>a probable expulsion?  Coming foward at the beginning is not acceptable.
>Sounds like a no-win to me.

Kirk was not in a no-win situation.  There is no comparison to be made.
And coming forward at the beginning is the only acceptable solution.
Anything else shows character weaknesses in Locarno that make him unfit
for command.  Remember that a captain may command a ship with a complement
of up to 1000 people.

Hope my arguments are somewhat logical Mr. Pearlman.  I can't find a class
at the local school in Remedial logic, but I'm still looking.  BTW, the
comparison between the Kobyashi Maru scenario and Locarno's situation is
not logical.  Hum...

>
>Andy Pearlman
>
>
>
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