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From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: QT 15. won't load
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:23:17 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Nov01.171946.292300@magicbb.uucp> (comp.sys.mac.system), Maury_S._Markowitz@magicbb.uucp writes:
> 
>   I'm running QT 1.5 on my IIcx and 7.1beta4.  On loading QT, I get dumped into
> MacsBug.  I've tried turing off ALL my inits/cdev's, but no such luck.  Any
> ideas anyone?  I can provide a stack crawl if anyone is interested.

Try upgrading to the released version of System 7.1  I've run it with
QuickTime 1.5 with no problems whatsoever.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore)
Subject: Re: Suitcase II 1.2.12 and Sys 7.1
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:14:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.202904.4701@csus.edu> davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (David Morgenstern) writes:
>I have another "problem" with Suitcase and/or the way that System
>7.1 is handling things. Here's the story:
>
>I'm using Suitcase 2.1 (I'm not sure about 2.1.1) and upgraded the
>other day to System 7.1. Suitcase does not want to run and is
>giving me problems -- so I turned it off. But now my documents are
>not happy with the "new" Helvetica and Courier etc. that are in the
>new Fonts folder. I keep getting the old you-don't-have-Helvetica
>message, when it's there in the menu and system. 
>
>I seem to remember having harmonized my fonts a while ago...perhaps
>this is the problem? I also found that I could not remove any of
>the fonts in the Font folder, since they are all being used. I
>wanted to copy new versions of the fonts from the Fonts disk, or
>from another suitcase - Not.
>
>any ideas?
>
>daviD
>-- 
> David Morgenstern, BMUG CheerLeader davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
>    "Miracles do occur - but they rarely provide food." 
>         --  Talmud: Shabbat, 53b

1) If you're going to use Suitcase with System 7.1, you have to have 2.1.1
(people tell me 2.1.2, but I still believe you can get away with 2.1.1!)
You can download an updater from several ftp sites... can't think of one
at the moment, though...
2) Try unpacking your fonts with Font & Sound Valet. System 7.1 won't
recognize the fonts if they're packed.
3) The reason Suitcase hangs on startup is probably because it's trying to
open the font suitcases that you dragged into the Fonts Folder; if they're
in the Fonts Folder, they are marked as being "used".

To summarize: to clear this, remove the fonts from the Fonts Folder.
Restart with Suitcase running. If it loads, close all of the suitcases and
remove them from the group listing. Then, drag them back into the Fonts
Folder (hopefully after unpacking them with Font & Sound Valet).
A good reason to use SUitcase with 7.1; it can get around possible
compatibility problems. I created a PostScript Fonts folder in my System
Folder. I loaded all the PostSCript fonts and their bitmap suitcases into
the folder, and opened them with Suitcase. Voila! The program doesn't have
to worry whether or not the PostScript fonts are in the Extensions Folder
or the Fonts Folder... (because of this, I'm still using Adobe Illustrator
3.0!)

Hope this helps!

Jay (=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: willson@seas.gwu.edu (Stephen R. Willson)
Subject: Virtual memory problem in System 7.0 with tuner on SE30
Keywords: SE30 virtual
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:45:31 GMT

I have an SE30 at work with a problem.  It has 5megs of ram and 15megs of
hard disk space, yet it will not allow for virtual memory to be turned on.
 Has someone seen this problem before?  How can I fix it?

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From: jean@biomac.univ-lyon1.fr (Jean Thioulouse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Folder from hell (Help needed)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:34:20 GMT
Organization: Laboratoire de Biometrie - Universite Lyon 1
Distribution: world
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Hi,

    Who can help me ? I can't delete this damned folder...
Thanks,
Jean

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 09:05:19 CST
From: <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: BIG ICON TROUBLES!!!!!!
Distribution: comp

Yes, I will admit you have a very strange problem. Since you still get the prob
lem after reinstalling the system, that's very weird. Here is what I would sugg
est. Get a program called Desktop Reset. It's by Salient and it's free. What it
 does is completely delete your desktop files on bootup. Salient claims that so
metimes just resetting the desktop doesn't work because all the system does is
update the existing desktop files. So if your file is corrupted, it will remain
 corrupted. Desktop Reset will delete you desktop files and force the system to
 create a new one from scatch.

Hard Disk icons are stored on the HD driver. You may want to use Apples Disk Fi
rst Aid (I think that's what it's called) to check your disk. But since it is y
our hard disk icon that is being lost, I would suggest at least reinstalling th
e drivers for the hard disk. If you can back everything up, I would suggest ref
ormaatting your whole drive. Drastic, but guaranteed to work. Also, try to make
 sure that the drivers you are using are System 7 compatible. Some aren't, but
mostly they only conflict with S7's virtual memory. Personally, I haven't heard
 anything about them screwing up icons.

To summarize:
1) Try DeskTop Reset
2) Reinstall Hard Disk Drivers
3) If all else fails, reformat drive.

Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: nerm@apple.com (Dean Yu)
Subject: Re: Font Problems w/System 7.1
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:23:17 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <lwwarpup.722449940@vela>, lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Lonnie
W. Warpup) wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else had any problems with they way the fonts are ordered in
> applications?  Since switching to System 7.1, any of the new fonts that
> I have installed do not appear in alphabetical order with the other
> fonts when listed with programs such as Font Clerk and Font Printer.
> Some of them are arranged OK, but most of the new fonts just get added
> to the end of the list.  Is this particular to 7.1, or does this have to
> do with the problems that programs like Suitcase were supposed to fix
> (i.e. Font ID conflicts...)?
> 
> -L. W. Warpup
> -- 
> --
> Lonnie W. Warpup                :   Oakland University
> lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu   :   Rochester, Michigan

  I can almost gaurantee that this is caused by some of your fonts having
family IDs that belong to another script system.  In System 7.1, AddResMenu
which is what just about everyone uses to build their font menus sorts
fonts (and other resources) within a script system's resource ID range. 
This means that all your Roman fonts will be grouped together, all your
Japanese fonts will be grouped together, and so on.  If you have, say a
Roman font with a family ID that belongs to the Japanese script system, it
will be placed with the Japanese fonts.

-- Dean Yu
   Blue Meanie, Negative Ethnic Role Model, etc.
   Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gilem@aix.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile)
Subject: help, floppy destroyed!!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:31:44 GMT

I have a student here who has a floppy disk that has bad 
blocks in the middle of some of his files.  Norton Utilities
can tell you what the blocks are, but cannot seem to recover the
files.  Is there something that I can do?

Mike
gilem@rpi.edu

please respond by e-mail
thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mctague@sju.edu (Brendan McTague)
Subject: Re: AppleShare 3.0 security hole
Organization: St. Joseph's University - Philadelphia, PA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:22:21 GMT

BesBesides, you can lock the administrator with a password ...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Re: PB 160 and Suitcase 2.1.2 seem incompatible
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA  95131
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:50:32 GMT

I tried to respond to the originator, but the message bounced so I am
posting my response here:

>In article <1992Nov21.001428.19269@ncselxsi.uucp> you write:
>Two things that I ran into when installing Suitcase 2.1.2 onto 7.1.
>1) Are your fonts packed? If they are, the Fonts Folder won't recognize
>them. Unpack them with Font/Sound Valet.

That's an obvious one.  I *never* have used Font/Sound Valet.  And in this
case I installed Suitcase when only the Apple-supplied fonts were present. 
I didn't have any suitcases other than the factory pre-loaded ones.

>2) Suitcase 2.1.2 isn't supposed to open font suitcases in the Fonts
>Folder, but if they were opened with Suitcase and not closed before
>putting them into the Fonts Folder, it'll bomb of hang. Take the suitcases
>out of the Fonts Folder, reboot with Suitcase activated, close the
>suitcases, and remove them from the appropriate sets. Put the font
>suitcases back into the Fonts Folder.

In my case the hang occurs when I install Suitcase and re-boot.  Haven't
had a chance to even open Suitcase.  And I started with a "virgin" copy of
Suitcase and updated it.

>3) Suitcase will not open fonts that are in the Fonts Folder. If you want
>to use suitcases with Suitcase, create another folder (I made a
>"PostScript Fonts" folder in my System Folder) and put those fonts into
>that folder.

That's actually the way I have things set up.  I have a separate "Fonts"
folder at the "root" level and have several folders in that... Adobe
Postscript, Bitstream TrueType, etc.

>Sorry if these don't apply to you, but these seem to be the three most
>common problems with 7.1 and Suitcase.

Thanks for your help Jay.  It's just that those things didn't seem to
apply.  I guess that I can always call 5th Generation...  :-)

Chuck
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Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:57:43 -0500 
From: Faisal Nameer Jawdat <fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: VRAM question

the amount of vram needed for different pixel depths is listed in the
manual
as i recall, the name of the book is "Getting Started"
it's the one that is wirebound

the formula for bit depth / memory should be:
k = (vertical resultion) * (horizontal resolution) * (bit depth) / 3072
or
so a 13" monitor needs
k = 100 * (bit depth) 
depth		colours		memory
1		b+w		100 k
2		4		200 k
4		16		400 k
8		256		800 k
16		65536		1.6 m
24		166777216	2.4 m
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
Subject: Kill da zoomrects...  kill da zoomrects...
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:49:37 GMT

I just did a fresh install to System 7.1; however, I forgot about the
despised zoomrects, which I had patched out of 7.0.  Not being one who
wishes to slow down 7.X more than absolutely necessary, and since zoom
rects are 100% dead time, and since Apple STILL doesn't provide a user
option to kill the ()$!*!$* things, I would be extremely grateful if 
someone could forward the patch instructions to me...





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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Modifying Finder Menus
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA  95131
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:53:36 GMT

I know that I've done this before, but now I can't remember how I did
it...  How do you modify the Finder's menus in System 7.x?  I tried
ResEdit (2.1.1 with extensions) to no avail.  I checked the FAQ
posting and there's nothing there either.  (sigh)  Can someone point me
the way to Finder enlightenment?  :-)

Thanks,
Chuck
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From: howes@cat16.cs.wisc.edu (Glenn Howes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Balloon help in sys 6.0.7?
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:08:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: daffy.1992Nov17.210820.18117
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <7622@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM writes:
>I have yet to figure out why anyone would want balloon help on any system,
>7 included.
>
>What a waste. I just wish Apple would give us some way to delete the balloon
>help during installation, thereby saving a lot of wasted disk space.
>
>What a useless feature. What a useless way to provide on-line help. "The Quit
>selection Quits this application." Wow, really?

I happen to think that balloon help can be a very useful thing, especially
in large, complex dialog boxes with lots of obscure settings. As an 
example from my own work, there is a dialog box item in my Kermit Tool's
setup dialog labeled Type:. How is the novice supposed to interpret this?
How am I supposed to convey the meaning of this box in 4 words or less?
If balloon help is turn on, the user sees:
default type:
A four character token representing
the incoming document's format.
Examples: 
TEXT = text document
GIFf = gif file

If you do not happen to know what to enter use the "Set Document Type..."
button.

I am not even trying to say I did a good job, just that there are
certain instances where having the balloon help can really help
explain the arcane. BTW, if you want to see balloon help really doing 
its job, try setting up Eudora one of these days.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ajiang@lonestar.utsa.edu (Alexander X. Jiang)
Subject: Fried Mac SE
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:10:06 GMT

After a night of thuder storm and all, my Mac SE finally decided to die on me
before i have several program due and couple articles to write.

When I turned it on this morning, the hard drive spins and all, but there's
only a white verticle line (about 2-3 pixels wide) in the center of the screen
the rest of the screen was all dark.  After playing with it for a while, i
believed that the motherboard and harddrive were all ok, since when i do a
cmmd-O, there's some change in the verticle line (i.e. a window has opened) and
when i move the cursor to the sleep-now corner, the screen saver comes on (the
line becomes dark).   I opened up the case and tried to adjust the width screw
on the analog board, but the width of theline didn't change at all.

That's all I can think of right now.  Would anyone suggest any other do-it-my-
self adjustment or repair?  Or should i go get a new analog board?  (any one
has one for sale?)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: djwiebe@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Darren J. Wiebe)
Subject: Re: AppleShare 3.0 security hole
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:34:58 GMT

In <BxtK7G.4o5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel) writes:

>arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru) writes:

>> There is a security hole in the AppleShare 3.0 password scheme.
>> Suppose I am a user (or even if I am not) on an AppleShare server,
>> but don't have administrator privileges. The following procedure will
>> enable me to assign them to myself and thus have future access to all
>> folders on the server.

>> 1. Turn off the server.
>> 2. Move the Users & Groups Data File file from the Preferences folder
>>    within the system folder to the root level of the system folder.
>> 3. Open the administrator application. The administrator will allow you
>>    to set a new administrator password.

>This isn't a security hole in AppleShare, it's a security hole in your
>site.  If everything was layed out correctly, the server would be locked
>in a room where you couldn't get to it.  At the very least, its floppy
>drive should be locked so you can't boot into the Finder and do this sort
>of stuff.
>
No kidding!  If you have access to the System folder of the Server unit why not
snoop through all the files you want on the mounted volumes!  As mentioned aboveit's a security hole in your site.  I use Mac Guardian keyboard locks for sites
were a locked room is impossible.  That at least provides a physical lock of
all server input without the appropriate key.

BTW: I did notice this security hole in AShare 3.0, if I take a sledge hammer and bust open the cpu running the server, I can remove the internal Hard Drive andattach it to another cpu thus gaining access to all the files!  tisk tisk tisk

:-)

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 21 Nov 1992 02:40:57 CST
From: <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7.1, who needs it?
Distribution: na
 <1992Nov21.070031.283@u.washington.edu>

Apparently, we all will eventually. I've read that almost all future system ext
ensions will be based on System 7.1. I'm talking abou things like QuickDraw GX,
 the new SCSI Manager, etc. I'm just trying to delay upgrading to 7.1 as long a
s possible.


Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov (Owen S. Nishioka)
Subject: Re: Quadra 950 Freezes
Organization: Nasa-Ames Research Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 05:11:23 GMT

In article <77050002@hpsgl1.sgp.hp.com> jtang@hpsgl1.sgp.hp.com (Jerry TANG) writes:
>Hi netters,
>
>I have a rather annoying problem with my Quadra 950. Somethimes when I am doing
>something (actually anything at all), the systems freezes for a while and this
>freeze could last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. I couldn't for
>the life of me figure out what is causing this. IT IS VERY ANNOYING !! Arrgh !
>:-@
>
>Anybody have any idea what's going on ? Is it because of the O40 instruction
>cache or is it because of the video card. Here is the current configuration of
>my system.
>
Forgive me for giving such a bsic piece of advice, but by any chance are
you running with virtual memory on?  It will slow down the quadra (700
and 900/950) to slower than cold molassess, especially if it is set high.
For best results, just turn it off.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Patrick Parker <pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: The NEW Namer
Reply-To: pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:07:34 GMT

In article <FiwiuB2w165w@netlink.cts.com> wgentry@netlink.cts.com (William
Gentry) writes:
>
>The Namer has been rolled into v.7.1 of the LaserWriter Utility from 
>Apple. Unfortunately the new LaserWriter Utility also reports that my 
>printer has 10x as many printed pages than have been printed.
>

Yeah.. I have the same problem.  I saw the number and thought "Whoa!!", then
realized there HAD to be something wrong with that.  Either way, just letting
everyone else know it's a common problem.

Patrick Parker
University of Minnesota
pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ctso@wam.umd.edu (CT Shock)
Subject: Network/printers
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:36:02 GMT





I realize that this subject has been mentioned before, but I can't find
the response, so I'll try to keep it short.

I have a Quadra 700 and IIci running 7.0.1 (w/ tuneup, A/ROSE etc...).
Both are connected to Ethernet. The Quadra through the built in, the IIci
through an Asante card. There is also a Personal Laserwriter NT. Due to
idiocy beyond my control, the networked macs are using Ethertalk 1.2. Both
also have MacTCP.

Before the Macs were connected to Ethernet, both were connected to the 
printer through localtalk, and everything was fine. Now they are connected
through Ethertalk (as mentioned earlier). When I connect the printer to
either machine through localtalk and choose localtalk in the Network
control panel, the printer appears and can be selected in the Chooser.
When I try to print, I get the message 'Printer not found'. Doesn't
matter if printing is direct or spooled. Both machines also have ARA
installed.

To make life more interesting, the way I print now is: (please don't giggle)
Connect a PB170 to the Quadra/IIci and the printer through localtalk.
Select localtalk on the Quadra/IIci, xfer the file to the PB170 and print
from the powerbook. I understand that there is some conflict in the
Quadra/IIci and some fix available. Any suggestions?

	-Todd


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From: pas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Peter A. Simmelink)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Apple ph number
Date: 17 Nov 1992 15:11:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: pas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Peter A. Simmelink)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Does anyone have that 7.1 upgrade phone number..
And how recent did you have to purchase 7.0???
thanks in advance.

Pete.


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