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From: jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (James Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Top 10 Pass Receivers 1991
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:51:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


			1991 Top 10 Pass Receivers

				No.     Yards	Avg.	Long	TD
Jeffires, Haywood, Hou.		100 	 1181	11.8	 44	 7 
Irvin, Michael, Dall.		 93	 1523   16.4	t66	 8
Hill, Drew, Hou.		 90	 1109   12.3	t61	 4
Cook, Marv, NE			 82	  808	 9.9	 49	 3
Reed, Andre, Buff.		 81	 1113	13.7	 55	10
Rison, Andre, Atl.		 81	  976	12.0	t39	12
Rice, Jerry, SF			 80	 1206	15.1	t73	14
Toon, Al, Jets			 74	  963	13.0	 32	 0
Carter, Chris, Minn.		 72	  962	13.4	 50	 5
Brooks, Bill, Ind.		 72	  888	12.3	 46	 4
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Elway's backup?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:18:41 GMT

In article <15280123@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> keithg@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson) writes:
>
>
>
>	Just read in the paper that the Broncos cut Steve Peuller.
>	I realize he wasn't much, but what does that leave Denver
>	with? Maddox and Moore(or Lee, whatever his name is)?
>	With Elway getting on in years and more susceptible to
>	injury, it seems a bit risky going without a veteran
>	backup.
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yes, Maddox & Moore.  Trust me, if you'd seen Pelleur and Moore play, and you
didn't know who was the vet, you'd have said Moore in a second.  He is very
calm in the pocket, stands in and passes very well.  I think he will do a
fine job as backup if Elway goes down.  From what I saw of Maddox, he looks
like he could be the future for Denver when Elway retires.


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From: rjmathia@novell.com (Robert Mathias)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins - Rypien Finally Signed!
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:40:43 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <AeWeLne00WBM837CI_@andrew.cmu.edu> tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Harris Fletcher) writes:
>And who's the MVP?  Seriously though, I don't think there is any way
>they are going to repeat.  I don't even see them winning the NFC east. 
>What have they done in the years after a Super Bowl victory before? 
>8-8? 9-7?
After Joe Gibb's first Super bowl victory, the next year the 'Skins went 14-2
plus setting a record for the most points scored by a team.  They also went
to the Super Bowl, but being a 'Skins fan, I don't remember that game.      

Bob Mathias
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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins News - 8/12/92
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:23:40 GMT
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

>
>Actually, both [Wilson and Williams] are defensive tight ends; 
>the Redskins has too many
>tight ends right now, and Gibbs moved both to the offensive tackle where
>the Redskins are lacking due to holdout and injury.  Don't know of this
>is temporary or permanent yet.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Steve Williams                           swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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Er...I can't find anything in the above that is correct.

What is a "defensive tight end?"  Sounds like a bad homosexual joke.

Wilson and Williams are defensive tackles.  Last year Williams practiced
some at defensive end because of problems at that position, but I
don't believe he played one down in that capacity.

Neither has been moved to offensive tackle.  Williams is injured.  Wilson
has taken his place.

Perhaps you were thinking of Raleigh MacKenzie.  He has moved from guard
to tackle due to Lachey's holdout.

					me
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Suggested trades for the Cowboys.
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:36:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.055515.70934@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:

       You obviously don't know how good Beuerlein is. Where were you last year?
       Beuerlein helped the Cowboys beat the Skins in RFK, the Eagles in the
       vets, and the Bears in Chicago (playoffs). In all three games, the Cowboys
       were clearly the underdogs. He also helped them beat the Saints and
       Falcons (both teams made it to the playoffs). His stats were very good, 5
       TD's to 2 INT's.

And Tony Rice qbed a national championship at ND.  Or didn't you ever notice
those guys playing along with Beuerlein?  Smith, Novachek (sp), Irvings,
Harper.  Dallas *does* have just a bit of offensive talent outside of the
backup quarterback spot, after all.

He did keep the all rolling, though.

Bill
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Niners tip Deadskins!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:46:37 GMT

In article <=98m#v+.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>
>SF beat Washington this AM 17-15 on a 48-yard FG by Mike Cofer with
>no time left.  I realize that it was a meaningless game, but it
>sure felt good to see the Niners come out on the winning end
>of a final-second FG for a change.
>
>- Steve Young played the first half and looked so-so;  Steve Bono
>  played the second half and looked great.  I'm getting close to
>  wanting Bono as #2 on the depth chart.
>
>- The running game took a step backwards today.  Apart from a
>  rather exciting reverse-field sprint by Ricky Watters, the
>  Niners' first attempt against another NFC team didn't look so
>  great.  Amp Lee did almost nothing.
>
>- The Niners' WRs looked generally super, which is good news with
>  Jerry Rice still sitting out.  Ron Lewis deep-fried a couple of
>  defenders, and Troy Kyles, who's probably their #6 WR, turned
>  in some great catches.
>
>- The pass rush looked pretty good, considering that it was facing
>  the best OL in the league.
>
>- Special teams is still on the mend but seems to be getting better.
>
>All in all, a pretty fair showing against the world champs.  If I
>had to make a prediction today, I'd say 11-5 even without Joe and Jerry.
>-- 
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Geez, was Cofer just a little TOO excited when he made that kick?  I mean, I
can understand being happy but it was a preseason game, not the Super Bowl.

Oh well.
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From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Trade ideas
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:32:39 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

In article <1992Aug12.154323.27352@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu (Parag Wakankar) writes:
>
>How about Trudeau or Hos +picksfor Seau?

Why would the Giants trade their _starting_ QB for a LB?? Anyway, Wellington
Mara squashed any rumors of trade talks with the Chargers here in the NY area.

Besides, you have the great Humphries now...why would you want a SB winner like
Hos? :-)
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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins - Rypien Finally Signed!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:21:03 GMT

In article <UeWG1mS00iUyE1Mdtt@andrew.cmu.edu> Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Rypien is now NFL's second highest paid player, and he received the largest
>
>That is wrong.  At best, he is the third highest.  Joe Montana and Dan
>Marino both make more than him.
>
It's not totally wrong.  Dan Marino is the hightest paid player.  Joe
Montana is if you compare base salaries.  If you throw in Ryp's
incentives.....he barely passes Montana for number two.

schalene
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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: Niners tip Deadskins!
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:07:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.172823.28197@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:

>>Geez, was Cofer just a little TOO excited when he made that kick?  I mean, 
I>>can understand being happy but it was a preseason game, not the Super 
Bowl.>>

>Not really, when you realize that the fans feel he has blown more critical
>field goals in the last year or so, than he has made. With the pressure on
>him, it probably felt like he made the field goal that won the Super Bowl.
>I can understand how he felt & hope that he starts making them regularly
>so they become old hat again.

>When I was watching, I fully expected him to miss!


>Tom Wolf - a guy who can't believe Cofer made a last minute field goal!

I AGREE.  CAN'T BELIEVE HE MADE IT.  HOWEVER, I DOUBT HE'D HAVE MADE IT IF 
HE WERE IN THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE THE SUPERBOWL.  CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE'S 
STILL AROUND THIS YEAR, BUT IF WE HAVE TO HAVE HIM, MAY HE CONTINUE TO PLAY 
THAT WAY!
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From: auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen)
Subject: Re: Dallas Q & A : Part II
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:47:01 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug13.061045.12785@leland.Stanford.EDU> blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum) writes:
>                       I don't know what the top receivers are earning, but
>don't you all think that Irvin should be paid money similar to the league's
>best receivers?

Not until he has a couple of Super Bowl rings.  I don't think you can even
compare Irvin's career thus far with Jerry Rice's accomplishments.  After
all, he's only had 1 great year out of 4.  Don't get me wrong; I like
Irvin and want him to play for the Cowboys.  But he shouldn't get too
big of a head.  

Dave
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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins Roster as of Aug. 16, 1992
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:55:40 GMT

In article <23725@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
>
>   Washington Redskins Roster 
> (against San Francisco Giants)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   Boy, not only do they move to Tampa Bay, but they move from Major League
   Baseball to the NFL. Does this mean that Tampa Bay will finally have an
   NFL team also??? ;)

   sorry, I just had to....
   --salty

  

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From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:50:33 GMT

In article <65985@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>
>I just thought of another rule that I can't stand.  I realize the reason it
>was introduced was to reduce injury, but I don't like it that QB's can 
>"down themselves" by sliding feet 1st.  What about the games where because of
>rainfall, the field becomes a water slide, should the QB get an extra 5 yards
>because he can slide?  Also along the same lines, I can't the "in the grasp"

The QB's forward progress is considered at the point where the ball is
when he STARTS his slide.  Therefore, the yardage that he gets from
the slide is not considered.

>rule!  How many of Fran Tarkenton or Roger (the Dodger) Staubach's great
>touchdown throws or comebacks would have been stopped in the middle of the 
>play because a DT grabbed the corner of his jersey.  If the QB can get away
>from the defensive player, great, let him throw a pass or run or whatever.
>If the defensive player is so great, let him get a firm grip on the QB, not
>just a hand on the jersey, and make a solid tackle.

The "new" in the grasp rule is much more liberal, but designed to keep
the QB's from the sort of injuries that have sidelined the likes of
Rosenbach, Aikman, Friez, etc.  Can you name a QB that has not been
serioisly injured in the last 4 years? (OK, OK, dan marino...)  The
rule now intends that the QB must be in the grasp AND control of the
defender and be in danger of injury becuase he is being held up for
another hit.  The refs did a much better jobs holding off on their
whistles last year, and the rule was more fairly enforced (and
therefore there was more excitement in the plays).

However, QB's continue to fall at a fast clip.  Is there any
suggestion on how to save this valuable NFL resource.  We certainly
don't want the Babe Laufenbergs and Dave Archer's of the world as
permanent NFL QB's...... but we don't want to sacrifice a little
excitement either....??  

*ice*
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Washington Redskins News - 8/15/92
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:05:41 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center


The Redskins are in meeting rooms by 8 a.m. and on buses for the 45-minute 
drive to Britain's national sports center, the Crystal Palace, by 10.  
There are two and half hours of practice, including 60 minutes of hard 
work against the San Francisco 49ers.  There is a nightly 11 o'clock 
curfew.

The Redskins saw the London sun for the first time, but the practice 
fields were muddy, thanks to the two days of rain.  Tackle Joe Jacoby 
pulled a groin muscle when he slipped on the field.  Quarterback Mark 
Rypien was extremely cautious whenever he dropped back.  For the second 
straight day the Redskins ended the practice with a 60-minute session 
against the 49ers.  They will have a walk-through in a hotel ballroom 
Saturday evening before the game at Wembley Stadium on Sunday.

While the Redskins have kept up with the routine practices, Gibbs has 
given his players and their wives afternoons and evenings off.  The 
Redskins have visited London, from Westminister Abbey to Piccadilly 
Circus to Harrod's, from boat trips along the Thames to touring the 
pub and nightclub scene to restaurants.  Joe Gibbs, after the practice 
was over, took a helicopter flight for a tour of a Formula One car factory.

Source: The Washington Post, August 15, 1992 


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From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Re: Gayle Gardener. Dont you mean AL MICHAELS?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:28:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.194417.7451@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JONAX) writes:
>
>   I hate her, I despise her, get her plugged-up-nose-voice out of
>the NFL, as a matter of fact out of any media....
>   This has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman....if any
>man was as annoying as she is I would say the same for him...

	Oh, There is pigskin breath...
	and his name is...... Al Michaels...... of MNF Fame.
	He has a closepin on his nose.
	
	
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From: tjehl@sedona.intel.Com (Timothy Jehl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:44:42 GMT
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Organization: Intel Corporation.
Originator: tjehl@mirage


In article <1992Aug14.130037.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

  The rule that gets me most annoyed, probably because it's often used, is the
"ground can't cause a fumble" rule.  SO WHAT if the ground causes the fumble? 
As long as both his knees have yet to touch the ground, it's the ball carier's
job to hold onto th' blasted thing!  
(a number of non-relevant rantings deleted)

   The reason that "the ground can't cause a fumble" is that the ball
carrier is down at the instant in which he hits the ground.  Presumably,
he has the ball in his possession at this instant.  If the ball subsequently
pops loose, it is irrelevant, because he was already down and the play
was over.

TJ
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From: tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman)
Subject: Re: Predictions on Rodney Hampton Wanted
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 20:35:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.232844.1815@infonode.ingr.com> john@porta.b24a.ingr.com (John Nolin) writes:
>What does everyone out there in netland predict that the Giant back will
>do this season?  All the football magazines that I've read place him in
>the #4 - #6 range of running backs in the NFL.  I just can't but that
>taking into consideration the offensive line he runs behind and the
>presence of Anderson who might be used in goal line situations.
>How about it Giants fans?  Am I off base here?
>
>
>My prediction:
>
>7 rushing touchdowns
>2 receiving touchdowns
>
>4 games with over 100 yds rushing
>
>Any others care to take a guess?

I think OJ Anderson will be cut.

Tim.
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Highest paid player
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:38:09 GMT

In article <Aug12.133953.23159@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bokenko@CS.ColoState.EDU (jeffrey scot bokenko) writes:
>
>After all this talk about Rypien now being the second highest paid
>player,
>
>  Who is the highest paid player?
>
>
>
>-- 
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.sig deleted

On the Redskins or in the NFL? In the NFL it's Dan Marino at $5 Million plus
a year. On the Redskins I don't know.

John T.
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From: jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (James Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Passing 1991
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:51:03 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	1991 NFL Passing

	Highest Rating
NFC:	101.8	Steve Young, San Francisco
AFC:	 97.6	Jim Kelly, Buffalo

	Completion Precentage
NFC:	 65.3	Troy Aikman, Dallas
AFC:	 65.6	Dave Krieg, Seattle

	Attempts
NFC:	 490	Jim Everett, Rams
AFC:	 655	Warren Moon, Houston

	Completions
NFC:	 277	Jim Everett, Rams
AFC:	 404	Warren Moon, Houston

	Yards
NFC:	3564	Mark Rypien, Washington
AFC:	4690	Warren Moon, Houston

	Yards, Game
NFC:	 442	Mark Rypien, Washington
AFC:	 432	Warren Moon, Houston

	Longest
NFC:	  97	Steve Young(to John Taylor), San Francisco
AFC:	  89	Niel O'Donnell(to Dwight Stone), Pittsburgh

	Yards Per Attempt
NFC:	 9.02	Steve Young, San Francisco
AFC:	 8.11	Jim Kelly, Buffalo

	Touchdown Passes
NFC:	   28	Mark Rypien, Washington
AFC:	   33 	Jim Kelly, Buffalo

	Lowest Interception Percentage
NFC:	  1.4	Jeff Hostetler, Giants
AFC:	  1.8	Bernie Kosar, Cleveland

	Team Champion (Most Net Yards)
NFC:	3997	San Francisco
AFC:	4621	Houston
From: rege@triangle.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Are the Bears 2 players away from the Super Bowl?
Date: 13 Aug 1992 17:25:16 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: triangle.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug12.062046.82120@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu > aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
 >In article <169bboINNavp@matt.ksu.ksu.edu >, mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Mark Grif
 >fin) writes:
 > >wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:
 > >
 > > >I need an impartial person's opinion on this one.
 > >
 > > >      Am I crazy, or are the Bears about 2 players away from a return to the
 > > >Super Bowl?
 > >
 > >Oh yes, they only need two players, but I think their names are Butkus and
 > >Sayers ;-().
 > >
 > >--
 > >.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
 >.
 > >Mark Griffin, Sys Admin, Fort Hays State University      |It is always better t
 >    Hmmmm... I don't know. In my opinion the Bears are the most overrated team
 >    in the NFL. Most of there key players are old. The surest thing is
 >    Anderson. I am still not sold on Harbaugh. However, I still think that the
 >    Bears can make it to the playoffs, thanks to the talent level in the NFC
 >    central. A record of 12-4 in the NFC central is equivalent to 9-7 in the
 >    NFC east. But you may disagree with that.
 >
 >    Malik...

 The most telling stat about the Bears was put up during last season's
 Monday night blowout finale - the Bears have never come back from a 21
 point deficit, never. Given that their defense is merely good at
 best, and their offense mediocre there is no way they can keep up 
 with the offensive powerhouses of the NFC. 

 Ashu Rege
From: wwr@calmasd.prime.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bears rumors...
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:10:41 GMT
Organization: Computervision - A Division of Prime Computer

I've been waiting to see something on this net, but it has yet to appear by
itself, so I thought to give it a bit of prompting.
	Bears rumors I've heard recently:

	Neal Anderson & Dickhead are so pissed at each other the Bears are
putting Neal up on the trading block (might as well, nobody's going to be able
to do, too much running behind that OL).

	Perry to Phillie for Barnett...

*Any* portion of truth to either of these two?

Thanks in advance... walter
From: martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer Update
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:46:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Aug14.184658.15480
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1992Aug14.171841.11491@cbfsb.cb.att.com> tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey) writes:
>In article <55702@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>>According to the morning paper, Mandarich is having headaches due to a 
>>concussion he got in the last pre-season game, so he's not sick, just
>>injured.

>>Has there been another guy get as much hype and attention and do as little
>>as Tony Mandarich in recent NFL history? 


>There's only one I can think of:  Brian Bosworth.  

How about Joe Don Looney?

Seriously, a big difference between Bosworth and Looney on one hand,
and Mandarich on the other is that Mandarich still has most of his
career ahead of him.  And he has gotten better each year.  He'll never
live up to his hype, of course, unless he becomes one of the best OL
of all time, which seems pretty unlikely.

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