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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:23:13 CST
From:         "Dick Clawson, S.J." <CLAWSON@LOYNOVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Babette's Feast
              12 Nov 1992 11:30:09 -0500 from <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>

I have seen BABETTE'S FEAST at least 7 times.  I can't seem to
get tired of it.  The story, while being a little hokey, is still
very uplifting, and I can watch the feast over and over again.

I personally love to cook, especially hedonistic displays.  Anything
that makes the prospective diner OOH and AH before they even taste it
is a great joy.  That was a distinct part of the joy of the feast
sequence.  The obvious enjoyment of the Officer, and the concealed
joy of the congregation.  (The shot of the old woman who lifts the
newly poured glass, and when she discovers it is merely water, she
hits the wine glass again---an all time favorite of mine)

Well enough gushing.
RDC,SJ
From: bert@KSTAD2.SUNET.SE ((BERT DEIVERT - FILM - UNIV. OF KARLSTAD,
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Subject: Re: Anthony Perkins movie
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:23:47 GMT
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You were right about the title Sami, it was called China Blue in Sweden
if I remember right--they always chaange the titles here. It was put out
in 1984 with music by Rick Wakeman.
Bert
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Subject: Re: Film/TV Trivia Quiz
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:59:56 GMT
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ARGH!  PLEASE DON'T MENTION _NORTH BY NORTHWEST_!  I WAS UP ALL NIGHT WRITING
MY TAKE-HOME EXAM ON HITCHCOCK'S USE OF CARY GRANT IN THE MOVIE!  ARGH!

:)

Euge
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Date: 12 Nov 92 16:36:18 GMT
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"Just the fax, madam."
        - Dragnet Redux

ye gods.  another translated epic.

j-man

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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:38:00 EST
From:         SCLERC@BGSUOPIE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Where are they now?

        As I was standing in the supermarket checkout line, waiting
to pay for my weekend binge basket of ho-hos and milk, who should I
see staring back at me from the cover of National Enquirer (or one of
that ilk) but the subject of much recent Cinema-L discussion, LEE
MAJORS. All life is linked. The caption of the photo said "My test
tube twins" or something about test tube babies...I didn't actually
pick it up and read it...

                                Sue
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:05:56 -0500
From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Certificates

> As i understand it, to see an R film on your own you have to be 17 years
> old. If you are under 17 then you have to be accompanied by someone of
> 17 or over. Mind you, does this mean that kids can get in to see R rated
> films? Very strange.
> Dominator

Yes, kids can get into R-rated films as long as they have someone over
17 with them. (Actually I think it's supposed to be a parent/guardian)

NC-17 is the rating where under-17's absolutely are not allowed in.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:36:01 -0500
From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Frankenstein/Coppola

Kenneth Branagh has indeed been signed to direct and star in
Francis Ford Coppola's upcoming production of FRANKENSTEIN,
based on the book by Mary Shelley.

Will be filmed in England in spring 1993, for a Christmas 1993
release.

Now, I know Branagh will play the good Doctor, but who will
Emma Thompson play?  Frau Blucher?  <WHINNY!>
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:39:07 -0500
From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Certificates?

NC-17 means nobody allowed under 17, period.

R means nobody under 17 is allowed without a parent or guardian
accompanying them.

PG-13 means parental guidance suggested for those under 13 (although
I am not sure if it means kids under 13 cannot attend without a
parent/guardian.)

PG means "Parental Guidance Suggested"  -- haha, all it REALLY means
is "sex and violence and nasty cuss words, but it's OK to take the kids
anyway/

G means General Audiences -- i.e., Kiss Of Death for moviemakers
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:44:17 -0500
From:         HLC2@PSUADMIN.BITNET
Subject:      Rutger Hauer

Chuck:

No, I'm not really sure if it's true that Rice based Lestat on Rutger Hauer,
that's why I used the word "supposedly." And I don't have the book in front of
me to check the copyright, but would it be possible that Rice had Hauer in
mind when writing THE VAMPIRE LESTAT?

Heather
<HLC2@PSUADMIN>

P.S.: I just reread my first sentence above and thought maybe you'd
misinterpret it as a snap at you. Please don't; that wasn't my intention. (I
guess that's one of the hazards of communicating this way -- it's sometimes
difficult to pick up on the writer's intended tone of voice.)
From: ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL (Ens Alexander W Ellermann)
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Subject: Aladdin
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:29:49 GMT
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Time magazine did three pages on Aladdin in this week's issue, & it says it's
a movie to see twice.  I don't remember seeing the magazine slaver all over
a picture like this in the recent past, so I'm gambling they're telling the
truth & plan to see it when it's released.

Also, it gave a vry positive review of Jennifer 8, Andy Garcia's new film.

                                                        Alex
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:29:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hughes and J-man

You're right. I was a bit unfair to Hughes and co.. If it weren't
for him, we wouldn't have Molly Ringwald and Macauley Culkin.
"...they continue to make decent movies that connect with many people's
sense of the world...." FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF, HOME ALONE(Hughes
produced it), and Gary Marshall's PRETTY WOMAN, I'm sure, reflect
the world we live in. When Hughes is not trivializing teen problems,
he's making stupid, silly films for kids. As for Marshall, I will
never forgive him for PRETTY WOMAN, an ugly film that shamelessly
glamorizes prostitution. To be fair, I did enjoy some of their films.
When Hughes allows his adult characters some intelligence, he can
make a decent film like PLANES, TRAINS, AND AUTOMOBILES. Marshall's
THE FLAMINGO KID was entertaining. But for the most part, their
sensibilities are better suited to the small screen where glaring
character inconsistencies are not so obvious.
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:16:27 EST
From:         Bill Felty <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      _Singles_

I saw _Singles_ this week and was amazed at what a nice little film it is and
that I have heard very little said/printed about it.  I was particularly
impressed with the performances of Campbell Scott (of "Dying Young - which did)
and Kyra Sedgewyck (Mrs. Kevin Bacon).

Did anyone else see and enjoy this film as much as I did?  (It could also
be that I identify strongly - single and about the same age as the film's
characters.) :-)
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:23:00 ZONE
From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Miller's Crossing

     I have to agree with Joe.  I found Millers Crossing to be a real
bore.  Both my wife and I dozed off while watching it.  Maybe I expected
too much also, I was expecting something on the order of Goodfellas and
the pace of Millers Crossing was definintely SLOW.

Steve Rife
(STEV@MCO)
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From: jyaruss@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Interview W/ the Vampire - movie
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:27:34 GMT

Greetings from a new reader.
Does anybody know anything about a movie being made af Anne Rice's book,
Interview With the Vampire? I don't even know it exists as a possibility but
I heard someone say they might be making one. Does anyone know anything about
it?
--Jordan
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:00:51 -0600
From:         JACKSOSM@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: searching for Coppola

>>the only other problem with the Godfather Part III was its romanticizing of
>>the mob.  This form of expression is not as acceptable since
>>scorsesee (sp?) directed his masterpiece "Goodfellas" which, without a doubt
>>surpasses all mob movies with its realism and honesty.
>
>>just a view.
>
>And my view is that _Miller's Crossing_ is better than _Goodfellas_.
>I would be interested in hearing from others who have seen both pictures
>as to which they prefer.
>
>John McIntyre

Both are exceptional pictures.  In some respects, "Goodfellas" takes
greater risks.  It is less conventional, as you would expect from
Scorcese.  The black humor in "Goodfellas" seems to neutralize the
violence in a disturbing way.  Great acting in both.  But I think I
enjoyed the emotional payoff of "Miller's Crossing" a bit more.  The
scene in the forest where Turturro is expected to kill his girlfriend's
brother was so good I would have paid the admission price for those 5
minutes alone.  On the other hand, the trunk scene in "Goodfellas" was
incredible, along with the preceding scene at Pesci's mother's house.
I simply cannot choose between them.  Nor would I slight Coppola's
"Godfather."  These three films exemplify the mobster genre at its highest
level.

j-man

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:34:28 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Dracula

Since Anita pickup up on the bug-eating and other scenic gross-out aspect,
here's one more in a vampire-related film.

Remember VAMPIRE'S KISS with Nicholas Cage, that is-it-or-isn't-it genre
film?  The scene where he scrabbles for a live cockroach, catches it and
pops it in his mouth and chews in one take.

Know how that one was done?

--It's reported Cage actually used a real cockroach.  There's method (and
madness?) for you.  Jeff Clark
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:45:52 EDT
From:         SCHIBERG@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      respectability

Alex--

Not TOO respectable, we hope ;) !!

Susan
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From:         "DORIS--RM. 3876--X-3151" <CHAPPELLE@RSO.DNET.GE.COM>
Subject:      The Brady BROOD

Bill,

I agreed completely with your suggested cast for the Brady Bunch.  Why would
anyone want to make a full length feature film of the Brady Bunch?  Is there
really a demand, a market for this type of movie?

djc
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Subject:      Buddy Rich

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

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Subject: Buddy Rich

Gee, thanks to everyone who clarified my confusion about Buddy Rich's ethnic
origin.  Boy, is my face red!

ahem....So...did anyone see "Folks?"

Ellen
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:57:27 CST
From:         "Dick Clawson, S.J." <CLAWSON@LOYNOVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Saint

Whatever happened to Roger Moore?
     (the question was asked)

The last I've heard from Mr. Bond was back in 1981 when he was cast
as George in Andrew Lloyd-Webber's _ASPECTS_OF_LOVE_.  He pulled out
of the project and was replaced by Kevin Colson (I believe).  'Tis a
pity, since I think he would have performed the role brilliantly.  I
guess he wasn't convinced of his singing ability.

RDC,SJ
From: lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK (Kerr Avon)
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Subject: John Ford on BBC
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:20:34 GMT
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>From: Geoff Davis <DAVIS@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
>
>Since haloween, TBS has been treating us to "Ten days of the Duke," and my
>major b***h is that my all time favorite, "The Quiet Man," was NOT in the
>lineup.[...]

This will only be of interest to UKers (or anyone who can receive BBC
transmission), but the BBC is starting a season of John Ford movies,
which will include _Fort Apache_, _Stagecoach_, _Rio Grande_, _The
Man Who Shot Liberty Valance_, _The Quiet Man_ and _The Searchers_.

All in all, there are 18 John Ford films being shown on BBC1 and BBC2
over 16 days, from November 28 - December 13.

Also, Lindsay Anderson (_This Sporting Life_ If..._, O Lucky Man!_)
pays tribute to his hero with a two part documentary being screened on
December 1 and December 8 (BBC1 10.20pm).  He also contributes an
article to this month's _Empire_ magazine.

			Liam.
			====-

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From: $W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET (Rolando Recometa)
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Subject: Scott Farwig searching
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:49:00 GMT
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This "searching for Coppola" deal started when I sent the
article regarding Dracula. I saw the movie two weeks ago,
and to reiterate what I said briefly. The trailer looks good.
The movie looks good. Unfortunately, Dracula sucks.
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From: dyoung@der.Princeton.EDU (Damon Alexander Young)
Subject: Re:      wanted: films...
Originator: news@nimaster
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:30:20 GMT

	Sounds to me like this person is looking for almost anything directed
by David Lynch.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:37:17 -0500
From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hughes and J-man

You know what bothered me about FERRIS BUELLER?  I mean, it's a fun movie
and all, but Matthew Broderick's character couldn't have succeeded with
any of his wonderful, funderful tricks if he didn't have all his rich-kid
toys.

I hated THE BREAKFAST CLUB.  So sue me.

The only Hughes movie I ever liked was SIXTEEN CANDLES, which was just
as phony and unrealistic as anything he's ever done, but at least it
wasn't annoying.
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Subject: Re: Where are they now...
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:07:00 GMT
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I think the Lee Majors appearance you're looking for is "Raven" (CBS
series, just as you described it).

Micah
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:30:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: searching for Coppola

>From:         WDHULL@OWUCOMCN.BITNET

>the only other problem with the Godfather Part III was its romanticizing of
>the mob.  This form of expression is not as acceptable since
>scorsesee (sp?) directed his masterpiece "Goodfellas" which, without a doubt
>surpasses all mob movies with its realism and honesty.

>just a view.

And my view is that _Miller's Crossing_ is better than _Goodfellas_.
I would be interested in hearing from others who have seen both pictures
as to which they prefer.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:14:30 CST
From:         "(Carol Slingo)" <slingo@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Mexican stars

Seeing HOMEWORK/LA TAREA in the Chicago Film Festival
reminded me once again that Pedro Armendariz used to be one of
my favorite stars.  With the help of two good filmographies and
my computer list I put together a pretty complete list of his films.
If anyone wants it, mail me privately.
Carol

(he _is_ in HOMEWORK, sort of...)
From: C47805NF@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU (Rick Francis)
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Subject: Blow-Up, Antonioni
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:03:52 GMT
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I have a quote from a critic, and several from Antonioni which may
be of interest to those dealing with Blow-Up.  I'll give the
full citations if anyone needs them.
      Oh--did you all realize that Blow-Up is a loose adaptation of, or
inspired by, or whatever, of a short story by Julio Cortazar?  Yup, it's
true.
  -----------------------

"A line of descent could easily be established between pseudonarratives
like [Wordsworth's] 'The Thorn,' which converge obsessively on an ocular
center of uncertain interest (I) and lyrical movies like Antonioni's
Blow-Up or Resnais's Marienbad.  The center they scan is an absence; the
darkness they illumine has no heart.  There is pathos here but no defined
scene of pathos.  Instead of a whodunit we get a whodonut, a story with a
hole in it."
QQGeoffrey H. Hartman, "Literature High and Low:  The Case of the Mystery
Story," in The Fate of Reading and Other Essays, 205-206.

From the director, Michelangelo Antonioni:
"It was precisely by photographing and enlarging the surface of the
things around me that I sought to discover what was behind those things."
QQMichelangelo Antonioni

"I always mistrust everything which I see, which an image shows me,
because I imagine what is beyond it.  And what is beyond an image cannot
be known."  QQMichelangelo Antonioni

"In [Blow-Up] I said that I do not know what reality is.  Reality escapes
us, changes constantly; when we believe we have grasped it, the situation
is already otherwise.I The photographer in Blow-Up, who is not a
philosopher, wants to see things more closely.  But he discoveres that,
in enlarging too much, the object itself decomposes and disappears.  Thus
there is an instant in which reality comes forth, but then immediately
thereafter it vanishes."

In an interview during the making of Blow-Up, Antonioni said, 'I'm really
questioning the nature of reality.  This is an essential point to
remember about the visual aspects of the film since one of its chief
themes is "to see or not to see properly the true value of things."'
(quoted by Chatham 152)
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From: $W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET (Rolando Recometa)
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Subject: Stars that won't go away
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:42:00 GMT
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Since we can't get rid of them, at least send them to acting
school -
Patrick Swayze - He tries awfully hard, but there's just nothing
there.
Michael Douglas - He can play Invisible Man without special effects.
Charlie Sheen - He has two expressions - confused and his father's.
Kevin Costner - The most interesting thing about him is his misuse
of accents.
Bruce Willis - He always plays himself - a jerk.
Richard Gere - When he's not taking his clothes off, he squints or
blinks his eyes to convey an emotion.
Sylvester Stallone - If it weren't for Rocky or Rambo, he'd be
unemployed.
Demi Moore - Take away the tears and what's left is a ghost of a
talent.
Barbara Streisand - I can't seem to get past her nose. Neither can
she. She seems to be staring at it all the time.
Julia Roberts - It's either lack of talent or just a knack for choosing
bad scripts.
Christian Slater - A poor man's Jack Nicholson.
From: YEE@DICKINSN.BITNET (Michelle Pfeiffer's Purrvert (Yee, Eugene))
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Subject: Re: Where are they now...
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:03:27 GMT
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No, Rick Springfield was in another short-lived series called "The Human
Target," based on a DC comic.

Euge
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:47:13 EST
From:         GREG KAUFMAN <GAKAUF00@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Tommyknockers

Has anyone heard anything about the ABC mini-series based on
Stephen King's book, "The Tommyknockers"?  I read where it was supposed
to air during the November sweeps like they did for "IT" two years
ago.  However, it doesn't look like it's going to be out anytime soon.
 Any news?
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