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From: b645zjo@utarlg.uta.edu (Rick Homard)
Subject: Re: TI85 and HP48 compared
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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 06:19:00 GMT
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The other day I submitted a comparison between the HP48 and the TI85.
In addition I included some general information on the TI85.
Well I made a couple...er...few....OK!...I made several errors.
So I was brain dead at the time I wrote it up.  Sue me!  I have nothing
anyways.  :^)

I also included a few additions which can be found after the corrections.

Sorry for the errors.



CORRECTIONS

Character Strings
=================

>The TI85 only supports the commands which finds the size of a string,
>substitutes a portion of a string, and conversion of an equation to a
>string and visa versa.

Instead of "substitutes a portion of a string"  it should read "extracts
a portion of a string"



Hyperbolic and Logarithmic Functions
=====================================
>Both machines support the standard hyperbolic and logarithmic functions.
>The HP48 supports additional commands which are not on the TI85.
>These are: ACOSH, ASINH, ATANH, EXPM, and LNP1

The commands which the HP48 supports over the TI85 are EXPM and LNP1.

Matrices
========
>The TI85 has *ALL* of the capabilities of the HP48 *PLUS* quite a bit more.
>A limitation on the TI85: largest matrix can be 256X256.

The TI85 cannot create a 256X256 matrix.  The largest square matrix the
TI85 can create is 30X30.  I misread the manual although it was a bit
ambiguous.  :^)



Statistics and Probability
==========================
>The HP48 has the following features over the TI85:
>
>Curve fitting for linear, logarithmic, power, and exponential statistical
>models.
>
During my initial look at the manual I missed this but...
The TI85 can perform regression analysis with 7 models.  These models are:
linear, logarithmic, power, exponential, 2nd, 3rd and 4th order polynomial
models.


Misc
====
>The TI85 does not have the commands CEIL and FLOOR.

It does have a CEIL command called "max" but doesn't have
a FLOOR command equivalent.

=======================================================================
                           Additions:
=======================================================================

Number range
============
 +/minus 9.99999999999 E 999

Computer Math
=============

Number range between bases:
binary :  +/minus  32767
octal  :  +/minus  99,999,999,999,999
hex    :  +/minus  99,999,999,999,999


Plotting and Graphing
=====================
>The TI85 plots a bit faster than the HP48.

The TI85 is much faster than the HP48; especially when it comes to
shading a section of the graph.  It is very fast at shading and is
easy to do also.


Misc
====
Regarding using list within algebraic equations.  This feature is
very nice.  It is not limited to just the graphing environment.
You can perform any mathematical function on a list of numbers
(ie:  e^ { 3, 5, 21, 99 }  )




Again sorry for the errors.

Rick Homard
From: rob@sbil.co.uk (Robert J Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: RTF word format on Psion 3
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:01:58 GMT
Reply-To: rob@sbil.co.uk
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Ltd.

Any Psion 3 users out there sussed out how to save a file from Word in RTF format so that it can be loaded directly into MS Word on a PC?

The only reference I can find in the User Guide is:

  Page 123:
   "If you use the 3-link, with a small software add-on to the Word Processor, you
   save Microsoft Word compatible files, and transfer then [sic] to and from
   desktop computers."

So I looked in the 3-link manual, and it says:

  Page 5:
  "You can also exchange files in Rich Text Format (RTF), which includes style
   information.  You can then use the file in Microsoft Word on a PC or Macintosh,
   or in any other program which understands RTF. A "readme" file on the supplied
   floppy contains more details of RTF."

Well, my 3-link floppy has 2 readme files:  MCLINK.DOC, and MCPRINT.DOC and
neither of these mention RTF.  Does anybody have any ideas?

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From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Telebit ModeM: now faster, cheaper
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:41:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

Greetings all,

I just got a flier from Telebit, informing me that their QBlazer has
JUMPED IN SPEED FROM 9600 bps TO 38.4 kbps, and
DROPPED IN PRICE FROM $whatever TO US$299.

Includes the following buzzwords:
v.42, v.42bis, v.32, v.22bis, v.22, Bell 212A (duh), 103J (duh), MNP5.
9600, 4800, 2400, 1200, 300.

Order direct from Telebit at:

     Telebit Corporation
     1315 Chesapeake Terrace
     Sunnyvale, CA 94089-1100

     (800) 835-3248 (U.S.)
     (408) 745-3872 (FAX)

Line forms at the left, gang.


Regards
Ray Depew
Hewlett Packard Co, Fort Collins, Colorado
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
From: rob@sbil.co.uk (Robert  Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: P(sigh)on has made me cry again...
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:47:15 GMT
Reply-To: rob@sbil.co.uk
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Ltd.

Crumbs, I've never seen so much traffic about the Psion before, shame
it's all bad (-:

Pete Goodeve writes:
>are making me feel a lot better:  1) The new one *is* version 1.80F,
>(my previous was 1.77F) so *presumably* the cable problem is fixed(!);
Are you saying it's a cable problem that took out the buttons?  I don't
think so as my buttons went dodgy about a month back, some worked, some
didn't, then then worked again, etc.  However, they never all failed to
work. Also, whilst my new one is 1.80F (I swapped it Monday, the first
lasted 11 months - is this a record?), don't hold out much hope as my
colleagues is also 1.80F, he's had it about 2 months and yup - the
applications buttons are dodgy, he's got 3 not working intermittantly.

Pete Goodeve also writes:
>     in about a quarter hour all told, I was able to read the
>necessary pages in the manual, fire up the link, and copy all my precious
>data onto hard disk and back to the new machine!
Buy a Flash RAM card and make it your default disk.  Swapping to the new
machines are they arrive each month/week/day is much easier then (I've found).

Pete Goodeve writes again:
>Tell me.  Is there *anyone* out there who has had a Psion 3 for, say,
>more than three months that *is* still working? 
See above.

psantucci@desire.wright.edu writes:
>	I want to write a phone dialer program in OPL, using the BEEP function
>to make standard touch-tone codes.
Buy a Psion 3 (-:

Bernd Meyer writes:
>I simply can not dial with it (only suceeded once or twice), despite of
>being able to dial with my Macintosh and its speaker at the same phone.
>(I tried all the different adjustments from very slow to very fast
>dialing).
>
>Think I will have to send the thing to Psion, though the application
>buttons still work. Hope I do not get one back with working dialer and weak
>buttons :-(
Don't do it!!!  My dialer didn't work until I messed with it's settings
(Psion-F in World).  Unfortunately, I forgot to note what changes I
made on my old one before it was swapped, so my new one currently isn't
working either.  Just mess with the "Tone time" and the "Delay time",
one of these holds the answer.

C Carruthers writes:
>How does one find out the version of a Psion Series 3?
Following on from everyone else's suggestions: my new Psion 1.80F came
with a newer Programming Manual, it's Version 2.0. I can't suss out
what's changed as I don't have the old one, but a random check in the
shop showed that the same page # in each contained different text so I
took the new ones. Any help?

Rob.
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Robert J Greenwood                           Salomon Brothers International Ltd
rob@sbil.co.uk                                 Business Technology Organisation
rob@wet.sbi.com
From: arun@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Sharp ZQ5100M to Mac LC connection????
Date: 22 Aug 92 16:29:51 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


Hello all,
	I have a new ZQ5100M that I am interested in connecting to 
a Mac LC. Does anyone know how to make the necessary cable, ie. schematic
to perform the task as well as where to get the software to do the transfer
of data on the Mac side....Thanks all...

Arun Mathur
Halifax, N.S.
Canada...
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Psion 3 - anybody writing anything?
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:56:32 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1992Aug14.173224.12379@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> steve@maths.warwick.ac.uk (Steve Rumsby) writes:
>My main gripe about the agenda is the fixed size repeat list. Only
>being able to repeat 50 items is crazy. I've got more than 50 birthdays
>I want to enter, never mind various regular meetings and stuff.

Ah.  Mine is the fixed format of the 'diary pages'.  Complaint
exemplified by last Friday, when I didn't have much to schedule during
the day, but had two evening things, one from 6-7 PM and one from 8
onwards.  The Agenda insists on showing its little 'notebook' with
nothing at all on the left hand 'page' -- just blank lines from 9 AM to
3 PM.  Meanwhile, on the right hand 'page', the two entries don't fit
so I only get to see the one for 6-7, with a little, easily missed,
arrow in the lower RH corner to remind me that there's something else
happening.  I'd much rather that it would sacrifice unused lines to try
to get all the used ones onto the screen.

-- 
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From: steve@maths.warwick.ac.uk (Steve Rumsby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: RTF word format on Psion 3
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:58:36 GMT
Organization: Geometry Group, Maths Institute, Warwick University, UK.

Look in a directory called wdr on the floppy. There you'll find a file
called rtf.doc. Basically, there are a couple of files on the floppy,
in the same directory, that you put in \wdr (not \wrd) on the '3. With
these installed you get to set the "File type" line in the "Open" and
"Save as" dialogs to RTF. Easy!

Steve.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: bduncan@ve3ied.UUCP (Bill Duncan)
Subject: Re: TI-88, what happend?
Organization: TFMCS
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:14:08 GMT

In article <63385@cup.portal.com> Jake-S@cup.portal.com (Jake G Schwartz) writes:
>I got to play with the TI-88 at the Chicago CES and it looked like a fairly
>impressive machine. Richard Nelson prepared all kinds of articles on it
>for the PPC Journal before its release, and then it was cancelled. I still
>keep the promotional multi-page color brochure in my desk at work. Looked
>like a slim TI-59 with a 16-character dot matrix 1-line LCD and TWO ports
>for plug in modules. Still, it didn't really do as much as the HP41 since
>it would not attach to any peripherals (except perhaps for a printer).
>
>Jake Schwartz

Has this been "stuck in the mail" for almost a decade? ;-)

Regards,
Bill Duncan [co-founder of PPC chapter in Toronto about a decade ago..]
(bduncan@ve3ied.UUCP)
From: Frank_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Frank Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: HP 95LX and Kittyhawk.
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:34:41 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Has anyone seen a price(in Cdn $) for the 21.8 meg Kittyhawk PCMCIA hard drive
for the HP 95LX?  I read in a magazine the drive would be $568.00 !

Frank

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From: david.carlson@almac.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: psion 3 rtf
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:24:15 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: ALMAC PC Board


 In an earlier posting I incorrectly stated that the default text format
was RTF. It isn't, its PSION's own word-processor's format.

 My apologies.

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From: duncan@wet.sbi.com (Duncan Fullerton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: P(sigh)on has made me cry again...
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:24:30 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@wet.sbi.com
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Ltd.


In article 8450@fuhainf.fernuni-hagen.de, meyer@fuhainf2.fernuni-hagen.de (Bernd Meyer) writes:
>Robert  Greenwood (rob@sbil.co.uk) wrote:
>> Crumbs, I've never seen so much traffic about the Psion before, shame
>> it's all bad (-:
>
>As Robert write: It is a pity that all the traffic is bad. To me Psion
>seems to be the first company that did not simply throw together available
>technology in smaller boxes but thought about the requirements of
>organizers first. Well, they had problems with the reliabilty of their
>products in their early days. I think these have been overcome by now.
>
>
>Robert, was this enthusiastic enough???

Rob is unfortunately (or fortunately if you work with him :-) ) off on his annual
jaunt round the world. As I write to you he is probably sampling the delights of
the steamier parts of Hong Kong, before heading off 'down under'. When we last 
saw him, sleeping bag in one hand and Psion in the other, he promised to be back
in 'a couple of weeks'. When he returns I'm sure he'll reply (at length) to your
fullsome praise of the Psion.
 
Duncan
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Salomon Brothers                                     duncan@sbil.co.uk
London
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: wizard@wixer.cactus.org (John P Onorato)
Subject: mac link for oz8000 wanted
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 05:01:18 GMT



I'm looking to purchase a link for my OZ 8000 to my Mac.  None of the stores
around here seem to have one.  If you have one you're willing to part with, 
or know where I can get one, please email me.

Thanks...


wizard

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wizard@wixer.cactus.org    |    Strength without softness is meanness."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle)
Subject: HP48 as a manager
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:48:56 GMT

Hello,

I have a HP48SX and I am looking for some managing
programs. 

Programs like phonebook/list programs.

Can anybody help me .
                                         vagle@hsr.no
From: edgar_e@pain.la.ca.us (Edgar Estrada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: The new handheld computers.....
Keywords: handheld
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 19:02:10 PDT
Organization: Public Access Info Network  (818/776-1447)

Has anyonme had the opportunity to use the new handheld computers?
I've seen ads for the ones by Dell and Zeos but I haven't seen any 
reviews. 
If you have one how about giving us a small review?
 
edgar





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From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: An old Commodore calculator
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:56:27 GMT
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Aug19.205435.11305@Princeton.EDU> woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams) writes:
>
>I hadn't even realised Commodore ever made calculators, or that they
>existed as long ago as 1974. What did they do before making the PET?

They made calculators....the first one I ever had was a Commodore LED
4-banger.....

----Steve
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personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
From: meyer@fuhainf2.fernuni-hagen.de (Bernd Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: P(sigh)on has made me cry again...
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:15:41 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Robert  Greenwood (rob@sbil.co.uk) wrote:
: Crumbs, I've never seen so much traffic about the Psion before, shame
: it's all bad (-:

O.K., I complained about the DTMF functions. But:

despite of its tiny problems, the Psion 3 is definitely the best organizer
and palmtop around and I would recommend to bouy it to everybody who wants 
to have a real useful tool for such task right now. 
I have had a close look at the
other organizers that had interesting specifications and I have been using
the Atari before. Without any doubt I would buy a Series 3 again, if I had to
choose again.


NO! I have no connection to Psion, Ltd. at all. 

As Robert write: It is a pity that all the traffic is bad. To me Psion
seems to be the first company that did not simply throw together available
technology in smaller boxes but thought about the requirements of
organizers first. Well, they had problems with the reliabilty of their
products in their early days. I think these have been overcome by now.


Robert, was this enthusiastic enough???


Bernd

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meyer@fernuni-hagen.de     or    meyer@dhafeu61.bitnet 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.hp48
From: dws@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (David Skerrett)
Subject: Memory upgrade HP41CV or get HP48?
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Memory upgrade, HP41 HP48, Help
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:04:13 GMT


Hello,

  Could someone please help me.  I have a friend who has a HP-41CV and wants
  to know if it can have any extra memory added to it.  He uses it for
  surveying work and needs to enter lots of data points but the program he
  uses takes up most of the 41CV's memory and he only has about 25 registers
  left. He needs to enter over 50 data points (i.e. he needs an extra 50
  registers). 

  If it cannot be expanded could someone recommend to me whether a HP-48SX
  would be appropriate for surveying work, i.e. is there any decent programs
  for it and if there are, are they FTP'able.

  I would appreciate any assistance in this area.

  Thanks

  David
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From: rob@sbil.co.uk (Robert J Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Psion 3 - anybody writing anything?
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:58:33 GMT
Reply-To: rob@sbil.co.uk
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Ltd.

I've had my Psion for about 11 months now (3 days on the new one) and all I've found time to write is a summariser for my address book.  Has anybody out there managed to find time/inclination to write anything?

Questions:

1. Has anybody written a new "Agenda" yet?  I don't know about anyone else,
   but my life doesn't consist of fixed length appointments (in fact bugger
   all appointments, 'cept when I get my hair cut).

2. Anybody sussed out how to get a date from a week number?  My agenda has
   all my start/lunch/end times (I'm a contractor), and I'd like to be able
   to do "Print timesheet for week 34".  Yes, I could write my own date
   routines, but since Psion have gone to so much trouble in that dept
   already I'd like to use it.

3. Anybody written a bitmap editor?  I wanna put some applications on the
   system screen, but don't have any bitmaps (I use poxy simple ones now).

If anybody has some time/patience get writing...  Whilst you're at it I'll
have a UNIX version of the PC link s/w,  a psion tetris,  a plug-in card
with a London A-Z on it, and some way of integrating the database with the
spreadsheet.  Don't want much do I?

Rob.
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rob@sbil.co.uk                                 Business Technology Organisation
rob@wet.sbi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: dge@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (donald.c.estberg)
Subject: Interesting application by British Airways using Poqet
Reply-To: dge1@homxb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 07:12:15 GMT


            	A mobile airline check-in system designed to shorten those 
         	interminably long queues at airports has been developed by 
         	Speedwing, British Airways' external IT consulting and 
         	marketing division.  Speedwing has developed software that 
         	enables British Airways staff carrying Poqet hand-held 
         	computers to access its mainframe computers to check in 
         	passengers and luggage.  Airline staff at the airport will 
         	"comb" the queues in search of passengers who are waiting to 
         	check in for flights that are about to depart.  [Those] 
         	passengers will be invited to complete the check-in process 
         	on the spot. [Financial Times]
From: akcs.jwtrav@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (John Wettroth)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:40:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Psion Link and DESQview
Message-ID: <2a908641.4765.1comp.sys.handhelds.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

I don't have direct experience with PSION link but use DV a lot.  I also
have a seiko label printer (slp) that is on com4.  Here are some ideas
that may or may not help:
   If you haven't already- disable all the slp TSR stuff, the address
grabber and the main program.
   DV is a little hinky about serial ports in general.  In the options,
tell it only which serial port is being used (don't answer yes).  If some
one is using com4, tell dv it uses com2.  
   Try dispabling multitasking for the psion, ie turn off runs in
background and allows others to run in background.
   Allocate more memory to the window- one thing I've seen is programs
that dynamically allocate ram can crash dv after starting.
   Update DV, I have found v2.4 to be more stable in general.
   One last trick that works for me often is to run problem programs in
the big dos window only when I need tem.  I have a path setup to some
batch files that run little quirky programs and the window closes on
exit.
   Good luck- you may try Quarterdeck Tech Support, they were very
helpful to me on a very quirky Windows with QEMM problem I was having.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Connecting an HP95 to a MAC
From: gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND)
Date: 15 Aug 1992 12:46 IDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 14


A friend (not on the net) asked me about connecting an HP95 to  a
MAC.  According  to  the  Israeli  distributor,  there is no link
package for the HP95 with a MAC.
As  I  understand  both  the  HP95  and  the  MAC  support  RS232
communication, and  both have  Kermit software  versions. What  I
need is a  pin layout for  both computers. If  anyone has attempt
such a connection, or knows the pin layout, I will make the cable
myself and use Kermit.

Thanks

Gil
From: bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: TI85 and HP48 compared
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:03:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug19.200304.1161
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Aug14.205939.15318@utagraph.uta.edu> b645zjo@utarlg.uta.edu (Rick Homard) writes:
[TI-85 units...]
>VOL
>liter, gal, qt, pt, oz, cm^3, in^3, ft^3, m^3, cup, tsp, tbsp, ml,
>galUK, ozUK
>(more than what the HP48 supports)
  ^^^^
Nope, these are the same units the 48 supports.  Less, in fact, since the
48 supports Canadian gallons as well.

bobo
bowman@reed.edu