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From: jah@cc.tut.fi (Ahonen Jari)
Subject: WINOS2 loses mouse pointer
Keywords: mouse,os2,winos2
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:32:03 GMT


  I'm not sure if this thing is in some FAQ but I have following problem:
If I start WINOS2 full screen, go to the WPS and then back to WINOS2,
the mouse pointer disappears. It does function (I can get things selected
with mouse) and in WPS it works OK.
I'm using Trident 800x600 seamless drivers, maybe the bug is in them.
  If anyone knows what to do, please drop me some mail.
System: 486/33,8M memory,240M IDE,Trident 8900c,AMI BIOS
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is HPFS faster?
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:34:57 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <pathak-210792114347@virtual.mitre.org> pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak) writes:
>I believe that IBM recommends that you continue using FAT for small disks. 
>I think the minimum recommended HPFS size is 60Mb.  

Not quite.  IBM recommends no less than 60MB for OS/2 2.0.  HPFS uses
up between 3% and 5% of your disk for HPFS-related data structures.
FAT, on the other hand, uses a maximum of 256K for the FAT tables and
root directory.  Of course, with large volumes, FAT system end up with
huge cluster sizes, resulting in disk allocation in increments of 8K
or more.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: The Future of OS/2
Organization: INMOS architecture group
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:59:53 BST

In article <LJ6DoB1w164w@netlink.cts.com>, trekkie@netlink.cts.com (Bryce Newall) writes:
>I have been seriously considering buying OS/2 v2.0 for about 2 weeks now.  
>However, I heard from a friend up in San Francisco that Microsoft will no 
>longer be licensing the code required for OS/2 to run Windows programs.  In 
>effect, Microsoft is cutting their losses and trying to run IBM's operating 
>system into the ground.  I would like to know if there is any truth to this, 
>'cause if there is, then I don't think I'd bother with OS/2, in spite of how 
>wonderful it sounds.  Any comments?

IBM and MicroSoft came to an agreement in which MS paid a few M$ to
allow them to use some of IBM's patents and IBM lost rights to
Windows source after some date (?? end of this year was it ??).

I think its fairly certain that IBM are able to do a WINOS 3.1 but
it is more doubtfull whether they will be able to pick up source code
for anything beyond that.

however is windows compatibility a long term issue? i think WINOS
is really a temporary measure to give OS/2 to foothold in the
marketplace ... i.e. it inherits all the windows apps. but if
people are going to depend on running windows apps in WINOS mode
then they'll almost certainly do better with a rewritten windows
(Win 4 or Win NY). If OS/2 is to survive long term it will have to
have lots of OS/2 apps to run and in this case long term WINOS
support ceases to be an issue.

If OS/2 sales reach the levels predicted recently then i'd expect
OS/2 to be as serious a target for app developers as windows.

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From: ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org (Andreas Kaiser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Does 800x600x256 on the VGA part of a Graphics Ultra 
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 04:29:05 GMT
Organization: ananke


In article <1992Jul26.200231.12787@ee.ubc.ca> tedc@ee.ubc.ca writes:

  > I haven't been able to get the Graphics Ultra into 800x600x256 mode using
  > the VGA portion of the card, in DOS full screen.  It doesn't even work if
  > if I boot from a DOS 5.0 floppy and try going into that mode (VPIC).  Wonder
  > what's happening?

It doesn't work because the code which should switch to this mode got
dropped off the BIOS. ATI had to take a close look into their Wonder
BIOS and had to drop some less important parts of it to get enough ROM
space for the 8514 code. Maybe the 800x600x256 mode was too near to the
1024x768x256 mode and accidentally fell into the same trashcan.

There are other things which got dropped: e.g. BIOS graphics in SVGA
modes other then 800x600x16 (which is trivial). You'll see this effect
when using GIF viewers, since this is perhaps the only kind of software
where BIOS graphics are used sometimes.

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From: sean@curry1.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Nowhere directory?
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:15:50 GMT
Reply-To: curry@ausvmv.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


In article <1992Jul23.005121.7666@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, dab6@po.CWRU.Edu
(Douglas A. Bell) writes:
|> 
|> Has anyone been able to figure out what the nowhere directory is for?
|> 
|> Is there anyway to get rid of it?
|> 

Don't get rid of it (if you even can).  NOWHERE is used by the OS as sort
of a temporary place to put things that it wants to hide from you.  One
example is a 'Find Results' folder is usually built in there.      You can
use this directory in your own REXX programs, and otherwise if you wish.

Generally it is empty, so it shouldn't take up any real disk space.  So
why worry about it in the first place?

Sean
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: 1.44 drive problem under OS/2
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:54:29 GMT

In article <oHi0NB1w165w@pranny.UUCP>
 lee@pranny.UUCP (Lee Reynolds) writes:

>   system works fine for me except that under OS/2 I get drive failures
>when accessing my 1.44MB A: drive.

>   This a job for that floppy driver fix I've seen floating around?

I don't think so.  I have tried all those potential fixes to no avail.  
Everyone seems to think it is a hardware problem--check your cabling first.  
So, until I get a new controller, I'm booting DOS when I need to write to 
floppy (about once a day to bring stuff to work--it reads just fine, just 
won't write).

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
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From: tedm@agora.rain.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: AMI BIOS incompatibilities????!!!???
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:21:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.1992Jul22.032138.25059
Distribution: na
Organization: Open Communications Forum

Just out of pure curiosity, why would a BIOS be a problem for OS2?  After all,
BIOS code is written to be run in REAL mode.  I thought OS2 runs in the
flat PROTECTED mode.  Is the OS making BIOS calls for I/O & such?  It would
seem to be a drag on the system speed.
  Also, there is a known bug in the AMI bios that the Coherent folks have
long known about-- the BIOS does not reset all of it's data structures on a
warm boot.  Doing things like writing to CMOS memory always have to be
immediately followed by a hard reset, else the info will not take properly.
Apparently this messes up Coherent somehow.

tedm@agora.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ressler@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Mike "IR" Ressler)
Subject: Help! OS/2 is trying to blow up my monitor!
Summary: "Out of sync" is an understatement
Organization: UH IfA and NASA Infrared Telescope Facility
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:38:22 GMT

Well, okay, maybe that's a little overstated, but it is definitely causing my
SVGA card to put out modes my monitor can't handle.

The situation: I have a Relisys 1520 monitor, it can handle a 60 Hz
vertical refresh rate at 1024x768 (50 KHz max horizontal scan
frequency). My old card was a Diamond Speedstar VGA (not a Plus), thus
it's fastest mode was 60 Hz. I just plugged in a new Speedstar 24; it
can do 72 Hz, but my monitor can't. (Both cards are ET-4000 based and
I'm using the 1024x768x256 driver - which will only do 60 Hz - from
orch09.zoo.) When I do a "SVGA ON" it seems to put my card in 72 Hz
mode, no matter what else I do. I did the "open a DOS full-screen, run
the card's vmode program to set the different video parameters, then
run SVGA ON" thing, but the svgadata.pmi file is a lot different than
the one generated for my old card, even though I told the new card to
run the exact same modes.  (Before someone suggests using my old .pmi
file, I'm using it right now, but this is clearly stupid.)

Another nit is that I've NEVER been able to properly use OS/2
fullscreens, even with my old card. Yes, I've read the README, the
FAQ, the Tips'n'Techniques, installed the May 15 vsvga stuff, and done
everything else under the sun that I could find at ftp-os2 and the IBM
ftp site, but nothing will make the OS/2 fullscreen work. I had some
success with the old card if I put it in 132x25 mode (why doesn't the
pmi file have a listing for 80x25 ???), but with the new card, even
this gets thrashed thoroughly.

Summary:

what used to work: everything but OS/2 fullscreens - it came up in a
	weird video mode, but at least my monitor could sync to it

what works now with old pmi file: everything but OS/2 fullscreens -
	it now comes up in a mode I can't sync to

what works now with new pmi file: only DOS fullscreens - everything
	else is a completely unsynchronizable mess.

If anyone has any insight into this before my monitor tube implodes
all over my room, I would love to hear from you. Thanks.

Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cdonnell@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chris E Donnell)
Subject: Getting Trident SVGA to work?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:24:16 GMT

I am trying to get Tridents SVGA driver to work with OS/2.  I install 
everything according to Trident's directions and when I shutdown and reboot it 
comes up to a black screen with a cursor in the top left corner.  I then have 
to reload all of OS/2 so it is usable.  Can anyone help me with this problem.  
The computer came with a 512Kb Trident SVGA card that can handle 1024x768 in 16
colors and 800x600 in 256 colors, the same for 640x480.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: weasel@rieska.oulu.fi (Kari T. Salmela)
Subject: Re: Does the TR256FIX work?
Reply-To: weasel@rieska.oulu.fi
In-reply-to: pingshan@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:35:48 GMT
Organization: U Of Oulu, Information Processing Science
	<1992Jul27.183548.27820@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:08:50

pingshan@leland.Stanford.EDU (PINGSHAN WEN) writes:

>   The TR256FIX does not fix any problem with the DOS session, it fix
>   the PM session (desktop).

	This leads directly to another question: Does anyone know
if there is any hope for me to see DOS full screen session with OS/2 2.0?
I have (as you probably guessed) Trident 8900B card with 512k RAM. Right
now I'm using 800*600*16 drivers from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: The Ultimate OS/2 FTP Source
Keywords: FTP, OS/2
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:06:36 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Jul.23.20.39.50.1992.9915@pilot.njin.net> johnt@pilot.njin.net (John Thiruvathukal) writes:
>
>Two days ago, I placed a listing of "software.watson.ibm.com" as a
>fabulous ftp source for your OS/2 cravings.  Since then, I have
>received an e-mail response asking for that address in numerical,
>random address form as some of you cant use those fancy host names for
>telnet or ftp.  The random address, if I didn't make a typo posted
>around the globe, is:
>
>		128.34.139.5
>
>If I did mis type that, mail me a request to correct this.  Otherwise,
>have a blast!

Sorry.  You did mistype it.  The address (according to my system's
ping program) is:

         129.34.139.5
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: erzberg@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin Erzberger)
Subject: Wrong colors for background bitmaps
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:45:24 GMT

On software.watson.ibm.com is a package with 1024x768 bitmaps to use
with XGA or 8514/A (i suppose). The bitmaps are obviously rendered to 16
colors. However, when I choose one of this files as background bitmap or
lockup bitmap, the colors are all wrong (much too dark and too red).
Does anybody know what the problem is? 
I have tried it on a XGA system, but not yet on 8514/A. Unfortunately
the bitmaps are in the new OS/2 2.0 bitmap format, so I cannot view them
with a common bitmap viewer (the ones I know of handle only up to Win 3
format). Anyhow, I think the pictures are ok, but OS/2 disregards the
palette in the file, even if it's only 16 colors. The question is then, 
where were the pictures tested?
Martin
From: "scott maxwell" <scott.maxwell@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 1.44 drive problem un
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:03:04 EST
Reply-To: "scott maxwell" <scott.maxwell@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications


LR>Hm,
LR>   system works fine for me except that under OS/2 I get drive failures
LR>when accessing my 1.44MB A: drive.

LR>   This a job for that floppy driver fix I've seen floating around?

I've been getting a lot of these, too, ever since I changed from RLL to IDE.
I'm guessing that some controllers work better than others in a multitasking
environment.  Try adding the following call to your config.sys:

    CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE

This will put you at a command prompt before launching program manager.  Now
try doing a backup or copy or whatever and see if you get failures.  My drive
works reliably from this state.  I'm curious to hear if yours does as well.
Good luck.

                Scott Maxwell
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From: atoenne@mpii02000.cs.uni-sb.de (Andreas Toenne)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Phoenix BIOS anyone?
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:02:42 GMT
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Informatik

In article <13808@mindlink.bc.ca>, Wayde_Police@mindlink.bc.ca (Wayde Police) writes:
|> So I finally called IBM support and they told me that the problem was
|> my phoenix bios is too old (1991). They said I needed to up rev to
|> revision dated 05-11-92! Is this right?! Is anyone out there running
|> OS2 2.0 on phoenix bios roms dated before this year's May!??


I used to run a 386/25 from Intel with an age old Phoenix BIOS. No problems
at all. I think it was dated xx/xx/88  or very early 89.

Actually the installation process should not be that sensible while copying
specific files. Maybe you find someone in your neighbourhood with an OS/2
boot disk. If that comes up you should not have any problems.
Did you check those disks ? I had some disks with faulty packed files on them.
That would stop the installation immediately.

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Going from Win 3.1 to OS/2, worth it???
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:08:47 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Jul22.202916.19852@news.nd.edu> Cook.14@nd.edu (R. Kelley Cook) writes:
>OS/2 will run virtually every DOS program around, except ones that
>require an extended memory manager besides DPMI.  (I.E. Lotus 3.0 doesn't
>work but Lotus 3.1 does).  Other programs that do not work are disk editors,
>disk compression programs like Stacker and anything else that tries to
>mess with the disk.

Minor correction: while Lotus 1-2-3 3.0 will not work with Windows, it
will work with OS/2.  The DOS version is VCPI and will not work, but
1-2-3 3.0 includes a native OS/2 version in the same box.  A nice
spreadsheet.

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From: pfr@drsrv1.hmi.de (Fritsch_Wolfgang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: BOOK -Settings keep getting lost
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:48:04 GMT
Organization: Hahn-Meitner-Institut Berlin GmbH

I am loosing the BOOK - Settings "File System Criteria" on the Include page.
This seems to happen 'from time to time', probably after booting the PC.
I did not check because booting takes some time... I am using a set of
4 conditions of the type "real name NOT equal *.extension", all linked
by "AND". 

Interestingly, or disturbingly, defining the criteria by an equivalent
set of conditions "real name equal *.(other extension)" linked by "OR"
does NOT work properly!

Wolfgang Fritsch
pfr@dcon1.hmi.de
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Graphic/ultra and DOS windows problem. Help!
Keywords: ati ultra nec
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:41:13 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <3945@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> michaelm@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>
>Help! I installed the Graphics Ultra the other day. I am using a
>NEC Multisync XL and no documentation. I reinstall OS/2 for the
>8514/a (I have read that to get the fonts correct you must do a
>reinstall instead of using the selective install). 
>
>Does anyone know what the setup should be for the Graphics/Ultra
>and a NEC XL. ATI didn't seem to know.

I'd try the NEC-4D.  If the monitor can't synch up, then boot a DOS
disk and re-run INSTALL to select the NEC-3D.  The only significant
difference between the two is that one (the 3D) is interlaced at
1024x768, and the other (the 4D) isn't.  I don't know whether the XL
can support that resolution without interlacing.  If both fail, then
you probably can't support 1024x768 - in this case, select
Multisync-2A, which tops out at 800x600.

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From: steve@cstat.aztec.co.za (Stephen Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Programs start "hidden"
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:05:51 GMT
Organization: Compustat (Pty) Ltd

My systems seems to have developed a strange behaviour:  Programs start
up hidden.

I double click on an icon (often a shadow).  Disk will rattle, icon gets
stripes through it, but no window appears.  I then have to both-button
click and choose the window from the list before it will display.

My question is simple:   Y?



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: Stupid (i.e. neat) CMD.EXE tricks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:22:54 GMT

sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy) writes:

>    Point two: When working with windowed command shells, you can neatly 
>    scroll around the window without using the scroll bars...

Can Windows 3.1 do this?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai)
Subject: Re: The Ultimate OS/2 FTP Source
Followup-To: poster
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:49:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.215012.28680@ldp.com> rolfe@ldp.com writes:
>comment, while on reflection a bit too strong, refered to the earlier
>poster's contention that a computer manufacturer was somehow at
>legal risk for maintainimg a publicly accessible ftp server.  I think
>that is patently ridiculous.
>
>I also think it's wonderful that New Mexico State maintains ftp-os2-nmsu.edu
>and hope they do so into the indefinite future.
>

I agree with you that it is ridiculous.  The problem is that it might be
ridiculous to you and me, but it differently is not ridiculous to the millions
of lawyers out there.  Coming from Washington DC, the Land of the Lawyers, I
should know. :-)


William



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From: josh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Frodo Baggins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Genoa 6400 SVGA
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:15:32 GMT
Reply-To: josh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Frodo Baggins)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: josh@tramp.cc.utexas.edu

Is there anything available, yet, for the Genoa 6400 SVGA card?  I've
heard rumors that other SVGA drivers are compatible with it, but I'm not
exactly sure if that's true or not.  Are there any 256 color drivers that
are compatible with the Genoa 6400, yet?  Also, I can't seem to get
SVGA ON to work.  Do I need special drivers before that command will work?

Any help would be appreciated.
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