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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Spielberg
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:31:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

As I have been reading the net I have seen a lot of negative opinion towards
Steven Spielberg.  People have been saying that he might not do justice to 
Jurrasic Park.  I really can't say that I understand this opinion.  Did everyoneforget about "Jaws" or "Poltergeist"?  If people are worried about Spielberg
not being able to do a great Sci-fi movie then they should rent "Close Encounters of the Third Kind."  I saw someone mention this earlier.  As far as his ability to do a serious film, I think that "The Color Purple" pretty much wraps that
argument up.  And I think someone on the net put it most eloquently, "...if you didn't like the Indiana Jones movies, then you must have a gland missing some-
where..."
	Personally, Spielberg is one of my favorite directors (if you could not
tell).  Yes, he's had his box office busts, maybe a bit too many, but I think
that Jurrasic Park will change a lot of opinions about him.

Jake Vaughan
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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:28:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.115856.8707@sco.com> davidv@sco.COM (Uncle David) writes:
>
>if i'm not mistaken, The Hunt For Red October had it's screen
>rights purchased before the book was published. the movie
>version was very eagerly anticipated. Jurassic Park seems
>to be generating the same amount of anticipation (and for
>good reason, it's a very good book).

Are you sure?  THFRO was Clancy's first published novel.

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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: universities
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:24:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.043438.8612@Virginia.EDU> jlj5a@Virginia.EDU (Joseph Lee Jackson) writes:
>ARE WHITE SCHOOLS ANY BETTER THAN BLACK SCHOOLS?

Isn't it Christmas break yet?

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From: denton@ssd.comm.mot.com (Perry Denton)
Subject: Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 12:04:15 GMT
Keywords: n

In article <e1gmVB3w165w@cithara.login.qc.ca> spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID) writes:
>carlos@spanky.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion) writes:
>
>>Felicitas A. Atabong (faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu) wrote:
>>: Has anyone out there seen a movie or movies that they thought were
>>: really good, but they just couldn't see  more than once, either
>>: because it was too scary or too sad??

Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer

I had no idea what to expect.  Very dark movie.  I guess you can call it
a "feel good" movie (since you feel good that your life isn't nearly as
bad as his and his companions).

Perry
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From: arnold@pyramid.unr.edu (Bruce M Arnold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: _Wild Orchid II, Two Shades of Blue_
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:27:38 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

In article <1992Dec10.124609.12884@bsu-ucs> 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>> I just rented _WOII,TSOB_ last night, and I was REALLY suprised.  I
>> enjoyed this movie very much.  I saw the un-cut version of _Wild Orhid_
>> and wasn't all that impressed.  I think the second one was much better.  
>> 
>> But why did they even bother to call it _WOII_?  It seemed to be very much
>> a stand-alone movie that had nothing to do with _WO_ except for the
>> erotisism.  
>> 
>> And, did it ever come out on the screen or did they just release it on
>> video tape?  Did it ever get a review?  What is with this movie?
>
>If you saw it and liked, then who cares about a review?
>
>				-Matt


I do you moron... that's why I asked.. 

Bruce..

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From: roney@beaufort.sfu.ca (Chris J. Roney)
Subject: Re: Top Five Movies of All Time (my opinion only)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:02:43 GMT

hmmmm...

  -no order but

The Gold Rush
Manhattan
Citizen Cane
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Cabinet of Doctor Calagari

That'll do.
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From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:49:22 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

>And I *loved* that great piece that Libby Whatshername did on Daniel
>in _Premier_ magazine (it was either the last one or the one before).
>VERY funny!

Libby Gelman-Waxner.  Isn't she great?  I love her columns even when
she's trashing a movie that I like.  And her drooling over DDL was
hysterical! (I remember one of her columns years ago where she said
something to the effect that her definition of  a great movie was one
where Dennis Quaid removed even so much as a sock).
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From: owens@cs.utk.edu (Stephen Owens)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: BLADE RUNNER FAQ Version 0.9
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:11:31 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu


  "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" (though Blade Runner was very
  different from the book) seems to hold the answers to a few of the 
  unanswered questions: 
>12. Why couldn't Tyrell afford a real owl?

  DADOES takes place after a nuclear holocaust, where many species
  of animals have been decimated.  Owls are especially rare and 
  therefore especially costly.  Companies like Tyrell make much
  of their profit by producing "replicant" animals for people 
  to buy and take care of like regular pets (which raises questions
  about what makes humans unique: Why do we like to take care of 
  animals?  In the book, replicants were unable to care properly
  for animals because they had no capability for empathy and they
  would forget to feed them).

  
  Concerning the unicorn:
    In DADOES, Deckard pays a lot of money for a *real* pet goat (not
  a replicant goat).  When I saw the DC version of Blade Runner, I
  merely took his dream of the unicorn to be in some way trying to
  get back to the original character in DADOES who had a desperate
  need to take care of a real animal.


  The question I have searched unsuccessfully for the answer to
  concerns the origin of the poem Roy quotes when he and Leon
  confront the genetic eye designer.  The quote, I believe,
  begins:  "Fiery the angels fell . . ."   On a hunch, I checked
  Milton's Paradise Lost, but to no avail.
     Anyone have a clue?

  Stephen Owens
  ----
  "I've done . . . questionable things . . . but nothing that the 
  God of genetics wouldn't let you into heaven for."
			- Roy
From: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:57:58 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Distribution: usa
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In article <BzD0sF.3Fx@nic.umass.edu>, a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes:
>[deletia]
>
>>
>>     4.  This one almost caused an argument for me.  The British plane
>>         whose fuel tanks were "dry as a martini" should not have 
>>         exploded like that when it crashed.  
>>
>
>Sure it should have.  Fuel vapor is significantly more explosive than fuel
>in it's liquid form.  A teacup full of kerosene will surface burn quite
>merrily and safely if it's container can take the heat.  Evaporated in a
>room and put to spark it will explode with something along the lines of 
>the force in 4 sticks of dynamite, if memory serves properly.
>
>>
>>Mary H.
>
>
>-Neal


Ok, I concede defeat on this issue.  Actually, that's interesting--I didn't
know that fumes were worse.  I remember watching some movie where a plane
was in danger of crashing and the first thing the pilot did was dump the
fuel.  Was that just more movie-unreality?

Mary H.

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From: zklf0b@gs144.hou.amoco.com (Fergason)
Subject: Re: More Stephen King movies
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:05:45 GMT

In article <1g7s8uINNb3a@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM writes:
>Just though of a couple more movies, any I have missed?
>
>The Dead Zone  (good movie)
>Twilight Zone
>Salems Lot
>Misery  (good movie)
>Carrie
>Sleepwalkers
>Graveyard Shift
>

Wasn't Rawhead Rex also one of the Bachman books?
It was a pretty good short film.  At least, i remember
it being only a little over an hour.

Kelly

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From: anderson@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Chris Anderson)
Subject: Re: What is Molly Ringwald doing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:46:24 GMT
Keywords: molly ringwald

In <Bz9uwG.DtL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William 
Shakespeare) writes:

>The Mollster was recently in an international film called _Night on Earth_.
>She played, I believe, a female New York cabbie.  I haven't seen the movie,

----
I saw the film two weeks ago, and it was Winona Ryder.  Good movie, too.

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From: mab7g@Virginia.EDU ("midori meech baer")
Subject: Re: Not Enough Sucking on Keanu
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:49:07 GMT

the movie was a combination of bram stoker's and anne rice's
novels, you know, interview with the vampire and the vampire
lestat.  it was based on both of these!  and at the same time
it was unique in a damn good way.  so chill out.

-meech
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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU (Christopher Edward Wrike)
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:38:15 GMT

	A friend of mine told me that you can't emergency eject from a
cockpit like McClane did unless the helicopter is in flight.  I
also found it ludicrous that the planes couldn't have been
rerouted somewhere else.  Even with those problems, I still
enjoyed the movie.  (Yes, the first one is better).

	--Chris Wrike
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 9 1/2 Weeks
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:22:01 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

>>ooops my mistake
>>but my point as applies to KiM Basinger, not Carrie Otis
>>is even stronger.  Kim was the aggresser in 9 1/2 weeks,
>>not Mickey Rourke.  Kim is a willing, enthusiastic
>>participant in pleasure(Carrie needing a wee bit of coaxing,
>>but this was not rape by anyones definition but yours.
>
>What?  Mickey Rourke abused and hurt her and *she* was the
>aggressor?  Interesting.  We are so accustomed to female
>sexual passivity in films that when a woman shows pleasure,
>she is seen as an aggressor.

Assuming that we're still discussing 9 1/2 Weeks (and not Wild Orchid):
Well I am aware that there are several editions of this movie, but
I don't recall, in the one I saw, any scenes where Kim was physically
injured.  If there were any could someone remind me? 

>>When a woman seeks sex it cannot be called rape.
>>Furthur when people are enjoying it , it is called
>>pleasure.  This was pleasureable sex for both people
>>(in both movies)
>
>First, let me say that it is when MEN enjoy sex that it
>is called pleasure.  Women's pleasure is usually not considered
>important in heterosexual intercourse.

An interesting statement which tends strongly to indicate that the
woman making it is either (a)a survivor of a genuinely abusive
relationship, or (b) a lesbian (or both).  If (a), I am sorry and I
hope you'll seek help and better luck in the future, if (b) then
I'm not sure you're equipped to be discussing this issue.

>Second, if a woman is raped, she is raped, whether she happened
>to have pleasure [including orgasm] or not.  If she is forced
>or coerced to engage in sexual activity, it is rape.  and it's
>not her fault.

True.  The problem is that people seem to have many different views of
what constitutes force or coercion.  In these days of sexual-harrassment
hysteria, some people seem to view any form of male assertiveness
as rape.  The only thing acceptable to them is for the male to say Pretty
Please before he even touches a woman. I've heard people on the net
describe scenes in movies as rape when nowhere in the scene did the
woman use the words "no" or "stop" or anything approaching them. Some
women enjoy sex of a little rougher variety.  If it's agreeable to both
and no one is actually injured, then it's not rape. 

I think the point of 9 1/2 Weeks (if there was a point other than to
make a semi-pornographic movie) is not that it was an abusive relationship,
but that it was an obsessive one.  On both sides. 

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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Top Five Movies of All Time
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:52:26 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <4318@novavax.UUCP> knightn@novavax.UUCP (Nova Knight Newspaper) writes:

>	Give me a break! Four of the top five films of ALL time were
>	produced in the last ten years!?!

While I disagree with his top 5 picks, I have to ask.  Can a movie NOT be
an all time top five if it's not at least 15 years old?  Are today's movies
simply not good enough?  Give the rest of us a break.

>	I suppose that Home Alone 2 is one of the Top Ten movies
>	of all time, eh?

No, but the original is MY #7!!!!

;-)

Just kidding folx!


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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Enough is Enough (was Re: Top Five Movies of All Time)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:42:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.211412.14625@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>America has a uniquely rich film
>tradition (based in part on being on the right end of a 70 talent drain
>from most of the rest of the world, it's true), 

I'll bet this would have read a lot more clearly if I had remembered
to put the word "year" between "70" and "talent".  I think I left out
a word in a previous posting today, too.  

	Eagerly anticipating the clever corrections,


-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Age of Innocence
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:34:55 GMT



Does anyone know when the "Age of Innnocence" is due to be released?


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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Watchmen
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:11:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.135334.6226@fwi.uva.nl> schaper@fwi.uva.nl (Lancelot Schaper) writes:
>Can anybody tell me what's true about the rumours of the making of Watchmen,
>the movie?
>
>I'd like to hear everything that's known about this, so what would be the cast?
>(I especialy like to know who would play the part of Jon!)
>

The only rumor I've heard was from a few years ago.  Terry Gilliam 
was slated to direct it, but problems cropped up and he ended up
making _The Fisher King_ instead.


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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: female leads (was: 1992?  It was a bad year....)
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 07:20:53 EST

dsy@psych.toronto.edu (Desiree Sy) writes:

> In article <ISBELL.92Dec7103720@panther.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charle
> >
> >In particular, is the consensus that this has been a particualrly bad
> >year for strong female leads?  
> 
> I agree that there was a dearth of strong female leads in 1992.
> However, I don't think that's particular to this year.  There are
> very few *good* years for women's roles in films.

How (sadly) true.  And have you noticed that most movies list and 
advertise two male leads for each female lead?  E.g., BATMAN RETURNS 
starring Michael Keaton, Danny DeVito and Michelle Pfeiffer; A FEW GOOD 
MEN starring Tom Cruise, Jack Nicholson and (thank goodness) Demi Moore.  
I tend to think of British movies as less sexist than American ones (this 
isn't necessarily true) but they're just as bad in the numbers.  And 
maybe in the content; they just do it another way.

The idea of making Demi Moore's character in A FEW GOOD MEN into a man 
horrifies me.  Part of the (strong) theme of the play was the sexist 
treatment she was receiving from the men around her, and how she was 
fighting back.  Of COURSE she had a strong personality!

That 's the Hollywood problem: they think (or pretend) that women can't 
have strong personalities.

Or any personality at all.

Namaste,
Elizabeth

(P.S. end of diatribe)

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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Hal Roach
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:10:29 GMT

Sorry, but Hal Roach died just a few months ago.  I believe
Billy Crystal did a tribute to him during the last Oscars.
I was amazed that he was still alive.

You'd be hard pressed to find someone who had more influence 
on comedy that he did.
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From: patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney)
Subject: Re: The best directors.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:25:32 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
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I can't say that I like David Lean's films after he began making 
epics of "The Bridge on the River Kwai" variety, and I actively
disliked *that* one. I personally preferred his earlier Black and
White films, like "Great Expectations", "Brief Encounter" and
such like. 

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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:37:57 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Dec11.115856.8707@sco.com>, davidv@sco.COM (Uncle David) writes:

> if i'm not mistaken, The Hunt For Red October had it's screen
> rights purchased before the book was published. the movie
> version was very eagerly anticipated.

I think you are mistaken...that was the first book Tom Clancy ever had
published...doesn't sound like a possibility.  But after it hit the 
Best Seller list, I can see why they jumped on it.

_A Few Good Men_, however, was purchased for a film before it hit Broadway.
And strangely enough, the author was so impressed with the way the screenplay
turned out, that he has written a new version of the play BASED on the 
screenplay, which was of course originally based upon the broadway play.

Confused?  Read it again.  :^)

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From: vpcsc11@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (student)
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Subject: Looking for music from Betty Blue
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:35:07 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.movies
Organization: San Francisco State University

I was wondering if anyone out there knows where I can find a certain
piece of music from the movie Betty Blue.  The music is a piano version
of what seems to be the theme song of the movie.  In the movie, it
is heard during the scene in which Betty and Zorg are playing the piano
together.

The soundtrack from the movie has a snippet of the piece, but not the
entire thing.  I believe it is called "C'est le vent, Betty."

Can anyone help me?

--
aaron
vpcsc11@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Underrated Actor/Actress
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:56:55 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

>
>Actor- A tossup between Gene HAckman and Christopher Walken. Hackman, IMHO
>is strong no matter what role he plays, from Lex Luthor to the Sheriff in 
>"Unforgiven" gives a fine performance. He just never seemed to get any credit
>in his films after "French Connection." He also had an amazing performance
>in "Class Action" (a film I thought worthy of Oscar attention, but was
>snubbed) I think most people will agree he is often overlooked in many of
>his performances and even though he does a fine job, may become nothing
>more than a "glorified character actor" in the views of filmgoers

I don't think I'd refer to Gene Hackman as underrated, but possibly
underutilized.  I rarely see a critical reference to Hackman where he's
NOT referred to as one of the finest actors alive.  And he's been nominated
for several additional Oscars since he won for the French Connection. (He
also won Best Actor at Cannes for The Conversation).  I do think he has
an unfortunate habit, whether by choice or by happenstance, of ending up
in mediocre and even bad movies.  With the exception of Mississippi Burning, 
Hoosiers, Class Action, and Unforgiven, he hasn't made a noteworthy film
in at least 5 years.  (Jog my memory if I've left something out).  I also
think he's become a bit typecast and I'd love to see him do something a 
little more risky, such as a romantic role or some type of psychologically
twisted type (such as in The Conversation).  Hackman's one of my all-time
favorites, maybe The favorite -- I go to all his movies even when I know
they're going to be bad.  
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