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From: janet@indetech.com (Janet Christian)
Subject: Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:30:35 GMT

In article <0095E109.67EB0AE0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> ahdlm@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>In article <s#cm9kf.ltao@netcom.com>, ltao@netcom.com (Lilly Tao) writes:
>>Well, since I'm always on the lookout for fun, and (most importantly)
>>self-powered kitty toys, I gave Oreo a Q-tip yesterday after reading
>>all these Q-tip postings.  She proceeded to chomp down on it and tried
>>to eat off all the cotton padding.  I took it away from her.  Oh well,
>>this is the cat who eats plastic bags -- so I'm not surprised.
>>
>>Any other ideas for self-propelled cat toys?  I've tried toilet paper tubes,
>>spools, and even a suction-cup cat toy that my roommate's mom sent us (I
>>can't describe it -- it's like a boxing bag).  With each of these I've
>>tried to show her how to play with them by batting around myself (good thing
>>the neighbors can't see in the windows) for many minutes while she sits
>>and looks at me with that "You've got to be kidding me" look on her face.
>>I don't mind playing with her, but I would love it if she had something 
>>to do on her own while we're at work all day.
>>
>>Lilly Tao
>>ltao@netcom.com
>
>
>Have you tried little bells - like the kind found on baby shoes?  How about
>aluminum balls?  A toy on an elastic string dangling from a doorway?  
>Laurel

My 10 month old goes wild over the plastic strip that comes off when you open one gallon
jugs of milk or flushable litter. And besides, they're free, so when she bats them
under the dresser and they get lost for weeks at a time I don't feel like I wasted
my money :-)

Janet
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My boss agrees with everything I say - well, actually, he thinks I'm working.  
"Never argue with a Scorpio - it's frustrating and you'll lose, anyway..."
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: talking to cats over the phone (was: Re: Help with Breakfast)
Keywords: little beggars... cats telephone talk purr meow long distance bill
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:06:49 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

>In article <1992Jul24.014508.198@chpc.utexas.edu> jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg) writes:
>>In article <19506@optima.cs.arizona.edu> margaret@cs.arizona.edu
>>(Margaret Newman) writes:
>>>Do you ever talk to your pets over the phone?  My neice had me saying
>>>"hello Mia, meow meow" over the phone today.  Mia is the first pet
>>>that I've done this to that has responded.  She's a fun cat!
>>

Yep!  I have done this too!  For a while I was thinking "this is
stupid, why am I doing this - she probably doesn't realise what's
going on!"  I decided to try out a little experiment to see if
she was really listening.  
  Our little cat is very tuned into the word 'biscuits' and will
rush to a cupboard to get her cat-treats everytime you say it.
(Biscuits is now a banned word in the house, as she will get
over excited every time she hears the word!!)
  Anyway, I decided that the only way that I would find out
if she was listening was to say 'biscuits' down the phone - and
lo and behold, she got up and scuttled over to the cupboard and
looked it in an expectant way.
  So next time you talk to your kitty down the phone, beware!
Your kitty is listening to everything that you say!  :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: shan@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Val Shanahan)
Subject: Re: Catsitting
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:44:38 GMT


I just finished catsitting 2 cats for a friend.  I have 4 of my own and 1 dog.
These cats are from a stray I picked up about 4 years ago who had 5 kittens a 
week after I rescued her.  These 2 guys are neutered and they are REAL BIG.
I shut them in my big utility room, with a screen door between the kitchen and
the utility room.  The animals all checked each other out thru the screen and
by the second night, I was able to let all of them (even the dog) have the run
of the house.  There were no problems other than a little bit of hissing every
now and then.  I think the screen had a lot to do with them not fighting, they
were able to get acquainted in a non-threatening atmosphere.  Even if they had
fought and had to be kept apart, the screen keeps the guests from being too
isolated.

Val

Newsgroups: uw.forsale,rec.pets.cats,kw.forsale
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: Free Cat(s)!!!!!!
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: uw
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:14:29 GMT
Keywords: Free, Cat

> The only grounds for asking you to remove your cats is if it restricts
> the enjoyment of other tenants. 
> 
> If you want more information about this or a photocopy of the amendment to
> the Landlord Tenant Act the gives you this right, you can drop by the
> Legal Resource Office, CC 206, University of Waterloo.
> 
> Kevin Lanctot
> 
> 
> 

How about this situation.  My folks *own* their condo, but some
rule is in there about no pets allowed.  They would really like
a cat, but ...  (By the way, *people* under 40 aren't allowed either!
This is in Illinois if that makes a difference.   I wonder if they
have a legal alternative here?
Gayle
From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Are all tricolor cats female?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:33:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.tertium.711920028
Organization: University of Washington

ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.135125.3826@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake") writes:
>>
>Which reminds me of an interesting question. Do male calicos need to
>be neutered/spayed (or whatever you do to an XXY cat)? In otherwords,
>would an unneutered male spray? Also, is there such a thing as an XYY 
>cat?

Interesting question, and the answer is [probably] no.  Most male calico
cats are sterile, the question is, however, what the mechanism for sterility
is and wheter they would still have enought testosterone to make them
act like jerks (-:

If they act like jerks, then the answer is: yes.
From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: URGENT! my cat stoped eating for 4 days now!
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:35:12 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Jul21.164437.1@max.u.washington.edu>, maji@max.u.washington.edu writes:
> 
> My cat kitty lost interest in food for four days now.
> 
> It started Saturday morning, he vomited the dry food he had before. since
> he sometimes did that and resumed eating in few hours. I didn't worry 
> too much. Then that night I gave him some cat treats. he seems like it.
> But few hours later he vomited again.(you can see it is the cat treats.)
> He didn't want to eat anything. if you put the canned food under his nose.
> he will just walk away. Sunday night I forced a little bit raw eff yolk
> into his mouth.
> 
> On monday morning, before we took him to the vet, he vomitted again, this
> time no food, only white foam(his stomache fluid?). After the check up,
> the vet gave him several shots(vitamin, antibiotics and nutrient fluid.)
> She gave me two kind of pills: Reglan and Amoxi. also she gave us several
> cans of A/D and Science Diet. But kitty refused to eat anything. we forced
> a little bit of A/D into his mouth. But this process is really a pain. He
> struggled violently.
> 
> I fed him at 9:15pm last night and he throw out at 12:00pm. Now he didn't
> vomit any white foamy stuff. so I force  feed a little bit. hope it stays
> there.
> 
> I read some cat care book suggesting give cat some pepto-Bismol when 
> vomitting. But kitty throw all those liquid out. 
> 
> What should I do? kitty still played with his toys on Saturday and Sunday.
> but now he really weakened and lost interest in anything. 
> (he is a neutered boy, orange tabby, long-hair. his normal food is dry
> scinece diet maintenance , and canned Friskies.)
> 
> It really kills me to watch him vomiting in such a pain. and he just 
> lies on the sofa. his eye doesn't shine. He looks so weak.
> 
> Any suggestion is welcome. Thanks for bearing with this long text.
> 
> Li
> 
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> Take kittty to the vet again. Perhaps try another vet.  Vomiting for 4
days is certainly not normal.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: coloring name?
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:25:31 GMT

What do you call a cat coloring with this description?

The cat's underside (belly, front of neck, inner-side of legs) is
white, as is part of her face.  Her topside (back, back of neck, top
of head, tail, outside of legs) is smoky-brown (a very washed out
looking brown color) with faint black tabby striping.

I know this is some variation on the calico, since there's 3 colors,
but I want to know if there's some special name for a coloring like
this.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sammy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (Sammy)
Subject: Re: Odd Behavior - 14 Year Old Cat Isolating
Organization: The Comp Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:51:52 GMT
Keywords: cat sick old


Thanks to everyone who responded to my worries about Misty.
I've made an appointment with the vet, and will post after
I have seen him/her.


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Odd Behavior - 14 Year Old Cat Isolating
Keywords: cat sick old
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:07:15 GMT

jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg) writes:

] sammy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (Sammy) writes:
] >My cat is about 14 years old, and for the past couple of weeks,
] >she has been acting very strange. 
] >
] >Is this behavior unusual for a cat her age?
] 
] I hate to say this, but this behavior sounds quite similar to that
] of Mortina I shortly before she died from kidney failure at age 15.7.
] 
] Clearly something is wrong with your cat, and at age > 10, *anything*
] can be serious.  You should take your cat to a vet right away.  I
] hope whatever it is can be treated or at least controlled.  Good
] luck to your kitty,

Ditto.  Any time a cat starts acting "differently from
normal", that's the time to call the vet.  When you have
a cat that old, you should be able to recognize what is
"different" fairly quickly.

This also sounds like the behaviour of cats who have
infections (abcesses, for example), and have a fever -
but the last cat I knew who acted like that turned out
to have an advanced case of bone cancer (the infection
was from irritation of the bone cells on her leg).  
Only a vet will be able to tell.

Diana
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD CRAIG HYATT)
Subject: Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:22:19 GMT

In article <s#cm9kf.ltao@netcom.com> ltao@netcom.com (Lilly Tao) writes:
>Well, since I'm always on the lookout for fun, and (most importantly)
>self-powered kitty toys, I gave Oreo a Q-tip yesterday after reading
>all these Q-tip postings.  She proceeded to chomp down on it and tried
>to eat off all the cotton padding.  I took it away from her.  Oh well,
>this is the cat who eats plastic bags -- so I'm not surprised.
>
>Any other ideas for self-propelled cat toys?  I've tried toilet paper tubes,
>spools, and even a suction-cup cat toy that my roommate's mom sent us (I
>can't describe it -- it's like a boxing bag).  With each of these I've
>tried to show her how to play with them by batting around myself (good thing
>the neighbors can't see in the windows) for many minutes while she sits
>and looks at me with that "You've got to be kidding me" look on her face.
>I don't mind playing with her, but I would love it if she had something 
>to do on her own while we're at work all day.
>
>Lilly Tao
>ltao@netcom.com

I went through a spell of buying kitty
toys for Kiki.  He reduced one of those
felt mouse toys to a non-descript grey
mass in just a day or two.  I found that
he likes homemade toys better.  His current
toybox contains:

1.  Felt tip pen
2.  A plastic strip from an orange-juice
    can, formed into a spiral by curling it
    around a pencil
3.  A spring made from scrap electrical wire
    with pastic insulation
4.  Two plastic strips stapled into two
    interlocking rings
5.  A tattered old "Kenya bag" (a bag woven
    from sisal fibers) i
6.  An old straw laundry basket with one handle
    missing

Cheers,
Craig

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NCSU@Raleigh, NC USA
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From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why do I buy cat toys?????
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:08:50 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA) writes:
>
>After reading about all the available cat toys available, I have to ask myself
>why I even bother to waste my money.  I have spent a fortune on little stuffed
>toys, sponge balls, plastic balls with bells in them of various sizes, catnip
>toys, fishing poles and more.  The only toy my Merlin will play with is the
>cat dancer, (similar to the cat aerobics).   My Pookie won't even play with
>that.
>
>They'd rather play with boxes waiting to go out for the garbage man, jar lids,
>towels, the bathroom rug, mommy's toothbrush, mommy's earrings, the toilet
>paper (I'm thinking of selling designer toilet paper).  I buy them a $6. toy
>and they only want to play with the bag it came in.
>
>Cat toys should just be made of stuff we normally throw out.  Just thought I'd
>share that.

Tell me about it!  My husband stripped the plastic shielding off some wire
(about a 1 foot piece) and threw the shielding in the garbage.  A day or
so later it appeared somewhere else in the apartment (stolen from the
garbage, mind you!) and has since become a favorite toy.

Rene

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From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Should I give one away?
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:17:15 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I have a cat and a kitten and live ina decent size house with two
roomates.  Unfortunatly I am moving into a one bedroom apartment this
month.  I don't know if it will be enough room for the both of them (
sounds like a western).  It is a second floor apartment so
Indoor/Outdoor is out.  Should I give one away ( good home of course)
or try it and see how they react ... Plus two cats in a small
apartment couse cause a smell very quickly.

Mike

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield)
Subject: Cleveland Amory
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:56:07 GMT

I tried posting this as a follow-up to a previous comment but it
bounced.

Cleveland Amory is the head of the "Fund for Animals" (not
something called "Friends for Animals").  In his books I have
never seen any mention of PETA (he talks a lot about Paul

Watson and the Sea Shepherd Society) and certainly he is an active
and happy pet-owner as are, it would appear, many of his
friends.

I would certainly doubt that he holds to the extreme position
on pets being "slaves"; have no idea about the notion that his
group supports PETA.  
He writes about animals with
genuine joy and (I think) a fair bit of insight into human/
animal relationships.

For those who are wondering, this came up in a discussion of
his books, "The Cat Who Came for Christmas" and "The Cat and
the Curmudgeon".

Anne

(Sorry about the erratic formatting; it's getting rather late in
the day!!)
From: rm55+@pitt.edu (Rudolph T Maceyko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: pens and pencils (was: Re: cat toys ideas)
Keywords: cat hide pencil pen write
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:16:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <3518@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rm55+@pitt.edu
(Rudolph T Maceyko) writes:
 [ ...]
>Milgen would be happy in a room full of tables and desks with hundreds of
>pens and pencils on them, just waiting to be batted around the room.

In article <1992Jul24.011057.27020@chpc.utexas.edu> jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg) writes:
>
>Ah, another writing-implement-attacking cat!
.
.
.
>They invariably end up hidden
>inaccessably underneath/behind something immovable, at which point
>she looses interest.

Actually, all of everyone else's pens and pencils end up in my room, so
I actually benefit from her fetish.

Rudy

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<rm55+@pitt.edu> or <rtm+@cmu.edu>
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania USA
From: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:27:27 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: rix.corp.sun.com

In article 829@zia.aoc.nrao.edu, dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs) writes:
>Yup.  Only with mine, it's his *current* collar that is the toy.  I'm a
>little concerned.  He seems to have acquired the knack of taking his collar
>off himself. 

Gee, I thought Maggie was the only cat that had figured out how to unbuckle
collars.  She not only unbuckles her own collar, she kindly removes collars
from Pete and Mango as well.  Her favorite game is 'bat the collar around
the kitchen floor until it slides under the refrigerator'.  I've tried giving
her an outgrown collar to play with, but it just isn't the same...

-Ann
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: was update on Kitty; now When independent cat gets friendly?
From: esaia@vax.sonoma.edu (MICHELLE ESAIA)
Date: 25 Jul 1992 11:36 PST  
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonoma State University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

My Sparky has to be the most independent kitty in the world.  He loves to play
with humans, and be admired, but the ONLY time he wants to be cuddly is if he
is sick, or not feeling well...It's the only way I know he's not well! 

When he got fixed, he was so quiet on the way home...and when I took him out of
the box, he crawled onto my lap and wanted to stay there! It made my heart
wrench, to see him that way. I have gotten used to him being independent, and
me always having to go to him....

Sophie, the newest addition, is a little ball of terror!

She won't leave me alone... She has to be jumping, biting and climbing all over
me....sleeping on me, etc!  I am getting smothered by a 6week old kitten.

Sparky, at least, can sit on her and groom her (while she gets totally pissed,
and starts yowling). I can't believe she makes so much noise! (spark is a quiet 
cat, too, Meows only when he wants  food or OUT, away from the little mutant
kitty with the huge voice  which keeps attacking him )

I love them both, though...

TTYL, all--Michelle   

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: scottj@gumedlib.georgetown.edu (John L. Scott)
Subject: Re: Pesky Mockingbird bugs Cat
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:14:29 GMT
X-Posted-From: iamac-1.georgetown.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <24JUL199208011875@bestsd.sdsu.edu>, mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu
(McCurdy M.) wrote:
> I don't know, I'm a big fan of mockingbirds so I guess that I would suggest 
> that your cat avoid confrontations by picking spots to hang out where he 
> won't be harassed. :) To me, it's kind of nice that the bird doesn't have to 
> pay with it's life, where in the past, your cat would have had the upper 
> hand. That seems kind of balanced.

Or you could get Dexter a younger and more agile friend to keep him
company.  That way Dexter wouldn't have to pay for unprovoked attacks with
pain and infection.  Kind of balanced really.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit,,,)
Subject: Re: Should I give one away?
Reply-To: pandit@ssd.intel.com
Organization: SSD Intel Corp.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:54:05 GMT

In article 1910@wkuvx1.bitnet, shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer ) writes:
>I have a cat and a kitten and live ina decent size house with two
>roomates.  Unfortunatly I am moving into a one bedroom apartment this
>month.  I don't know if it will be enough room for the both of them (
>sounds like a western).  It is a second floor apartment so
>Indoor/Outdoor is out.  Should I give one away ( good home of course)
>or try it and see how they react ... Plus two cats in a small
>apartment couse cause a smell very quickly.

When you adopt a cat, it's for life.  You can't just give it away because you're
moving!  A one bedroom apartment is enough room for both of them.  They just 
need more indoor exercise since they won't be going out.  I don't see how they 
can cause a smell, either, if you clean their litter every day or two.

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From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat Toys - Gallon Jug rings...
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:12:24 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

janet@indetech.com (Janet Christian) writes:

] My 10 month old goes wild over the plastic strip that comes 
] off when you open one gallon jugs of milk or flushable litter. 
] And besides, they're free, so when she bats them under the 
] dresser and they get lost for weeks at a time I don't feel 
] like I wasted my money :-)
] 
] Janet

And if anyone gets home-delivery on 6 gallon water
jugs, the plastic piece that holds THAT top on is
also fun - especially for the older cats since it's
BIG!

Diana
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats