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From: kk881595@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (kevin knappmiller)
Subject: MS-Windows 3.1 under DV/X remote
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:43:30 GMT
Reply-To: kk881595@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

I would be interested in hearing from anyone with experience
(or inexperience) with running Windows 3.1 remotely with
DV/X.

My display would be on a DECstation 5000 running X at
1280x1024x256.  The PC would be a 33MHz 386 w/ 8MB RAM, ethernet
card and TCP/IP. 

What is the procedure to get windows running
on the PC to display on the workstation?

Once one gets it up are the resources of the workstation available
to windows, (ie the full screen and color resolution).

In a setup like this how is performance?  The two main applications
right now would be MathCAD 3.1, and WordPerfect for Windows.

What are the main performance variables?  Speed of the ethernet
card, speed or memory on the PC etc.?

Thanks,

Kevin Knappmiller
Solar Lab
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO  80523
(303)491-8215
kk881595@longs.lance.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: perry@eesun1.ttu.edu (Dr. Matt Perry)
Subject: MATLAB demo problems in DVX
Organization: Texas Tech University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:37:59 GMT
X-Posted-From: eesun1.ee.ttu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hi,

I have a question concering running the new and fantastic MATLAB 4.0
on the dvx server.  The demos seem to bring dvx down to a halt and I 
never could get one of the "moive" demos to run completely on DVx.
Matlab says in the text printout that it will send 2Meg worth of 
data to the server so be patient.  On a crippled old sun3 with 8 meg 
is takes about 30 seconds.  On my 33Mha 386/387 with 8 Meg it took
greater that 1 hour and I gave up.  My hard disk was active just
about the whole time.

Does anyone have any hints as to get desqview/x cruising with 
matlab?  Also while on the subject, after running on the sun3 I noticed
how slow desqview/x can really be.  It was taking up to 15 second to 
respond to mouse button stuff.  Does anyone have any help on this.

Also, I read recently that the desqview/x server is based on someone's
product.  Does anyone know who makes just the x server?  Also, does
anyone have any suggestions as to faster xservers for the pc?

thanks

Matt


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From: livigni@bldrdoc.gov (David livigni 303-497-5898)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Game problems with Desqview
Summary: version, license
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:07:30 GMT



In Article 4208 of comp.os.msdos.desqview Gary Rich <support@qdeck.com> writes:

>>The best suggestion I
>>heard was that DV was running out of SYSTEM memory (specified with Desqview
>>Setup) when it tried to open the little window with the Abort Retry Fail
>>options.  This bug was very inconsistant, and I can't get it to do it again
>>now...
>
>This showed up on a few machines with a certain revision of DV 2.4x.  It was
>very inconsistent but seems fixed in 2.42.
>

ARGE - Why do I have 2.41 here?  I have priority support, sould I have
been upgraded?  It's possible I upgraded my home system but somehow bypassed
my system at work, I thaught I had 2.42...

BTW - is your software licence single use, single machine, or single user?
Shouldn't be a problem since I have several licences including one I purchased
personally for home use, but if its single user then I can use it on my lab 
machines at work too?  Too bad their only 286's.  I could look it up but this
may be easier?

My apologies to Mike Batchelor, mikebat@qdeck.com, for my flames about
a slightly erraneous solution.  Everybody makes mistakes, I should know since 
I've made most of them at least once... overheating is a terrible thing (give
me a damn cigarette!!!).

David Livigni


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: benny@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kaidi Weng)
Subject: DV/X
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 12:41:54 GMT


I've read some brouchure about dv/x and I'm wonder if dv/x able to swap
files in and out.  Is a 386/40 with 4 meg ram machine fast enough to 
run the program?  What do I need in order to display VMS windows on my
PC when I dial in?  I'm a novice in this area so if this is a FAQ, forgive
me.  I didn't see FAQ in dv-x directory in wuarchive or oakland.
thanks in advance.

kaidi.
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From: kswheat@uswnvg.com (Scott Wheat)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: QEMM and DPMI
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:06:04 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


Hi.

Will someone please tell me what file I need (and where is is) to get QEMM
to provide DPMI services.  I know there was some discussion about this some
time ago, but I don't have the articles.

Thanks.

Scott Wheat
From: an685@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Nalley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: DVX & TSENG 4000 Card (I Want 1024x768x16c)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 23:05:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an685@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Nalley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



Can someone give me some settings for the setings file that I
can use to get 1024x768x16colors on my TSENG 4000 based card?

I would really love to use DVX at this rate.  256 colors is just 
too slow in keeping up with my digitizer tablet.

Chris Nalley
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nick Watkins)
Subject: Re: MATLAB demo problems in DVX
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:41:57 GMT

From article <1992Nov16.043759.13596@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, by perry@eesun1.ttu.edu (Dr. Matt Perry):
> Hi,
> 
> I have a question concering running the new and fantastic MATLAB 4.0
> on the dvx server.  
Matlab 4 *is* fantastic. Desqview/X is *extremely*ingenious but not, 
alas, fantastic ... :-)

>The demos seem to bring dvx down to a halt and I 
> never could get one of the "moive" demos to run completely on DVx.
> Matlab says in the text printout that it will send 2Meg worth of 
> data to the server so be patient.  On a crippled old sun3 with 8 meg 
> is takes about 30 seconds.  On my 33Mha 386/387 with 8 Meg it took
> greater that 1 hour and I gave up.  My hard disk was active just
> about the whole time.
Had same experience trying to run one of my 2D colour plots from Matlab
4.0. Disk activity indicates swapping so try increasing maximum size of
server in .vmc file. Default on DV/X is to start swapping at 1 Mb I think.
If you still have trouble with max size set to 6 Mb or so then I'm not
sure what to do. I haven't tried this yet btw, as I'm using Matlab 4.0 on an HP
9000 and I prefer the 9000 :-)


Matlab needs 256 colours really, I found choice of colours in 16 colour
modes rather odd. 256 looked OK. On my old VGA machine 256 colour mode of
DV/X slows it down though.

> Does anyone have any hints as to get desqview/x cruising with 
> matlab?  
If above doesn't work I'm not sure what will ...

>Also while on the subject, after running on the sun3 I noticed
> how slow desqview/x can really be.  It was taking up to 15 second to 
> respond to mouse button stuff.  Does anyone have any help on this.
It *is* slow on my 20MHz 386/387 and is thus, IMHO, not really a 
substitute for a workstation or X terminal, but  is a very useful product for other
reasons.

On a faster PC it may be a very different story.

> Also, I read recently that the desqview/x server is based on someone's
> product.  Does anyone know who makes just the x server?  Also, does
> anyone have any suggestions as to faster xservers for the pc?
Spectragraphics, now a division of NCD. Product is called PC Xview.

Other rival Xservers are Xvision, X11/AT, eXceed, ...

DV/X has unique features though.

> Matt


> Matt Perry, PhD                      Electrical Engineering
> Assistant Professor                  Texas Tech
> Voice: (806) 742-3489                Box 43102
> e-mail: perry@sun1.coe.ttu.edu       Lubbock, TX, USA  79509-3102

Nick
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From: corey@amiganet.chi.il.us (Corey Sweeney)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: faq
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:37:12 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

someone please send me a copy of the FAQ for this group.

Thanks
        Corey

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corey@amiganet.chi.il.us
I do not own a amiga!
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: calb@edsi.plexus.COM (Calvin Bolwerk)
Subject: PC-Xview vs DesqView/X
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:42:31 GMT


I was wondering if someone could tell me what the differences are 
between these 2 programs?  Are they similar in features?  At the 
place that I work we are using PC-Xview for DOS.  I would like to 
see Desqview/X used instead but want to make sure that I don't 
lose any functionality.  We are using an RS/6000 running IBM AIX.  
We use this mainly for running Procadam.  I would like to be able 
to switch between an X session and local programs that are running 
under DOS.  Currently I can't do this with PC-Xview.

Any help would be appreciated!
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson)
Subject: Re: Quarterdeck BBS files on Internet ?
Organization: NobelTech AB
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:35:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.093244.5239@nobeltech.se> I wrote:
>Does anybody know if the files from the BBS is available on the
>Internet somewhere ?

Oh, can anybody verify that the latest WINX/DVX that are supposedly
available on the support BBS runs windows to a monochrome X-server.
I am trying to run windows to Sun SLCs running OpenWindows.

/Per


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From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Star Trek fonts in DESQview/X SNF
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:25:52 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

Has anybody ported the Star Trek fonts to DESQview/X SNF format?

I'd like to find the Old Series fonts, but am also interested in the
Movie title fonts, and any other Trek-related fonts.

If you've got them in BDF format, or Adobe Type 1, that's OK, too.

I've asked for them also in the startrek groups, so if no one has
ported them yet, I'll make them available on my mail server when
I've done the conversion.



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[] mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us <or> mikebat@qdeck.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: gananney@unccsun.uncc.edu (Glenn A Nanney)
Subject: Animation under DV/X
Keywords: DV/X animation
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:51:08 GMT

Hi net!

I'm getting ready to develop an application which will require animation.
Developing under X would be great, so that we can take advantage of the
Suns we will be getting in a year.

The app will be developed on a 486, so I figured on using DV/X.  

The question - will DV/X run fast enough for animation?  Or am I stuck
with coding directly to the video card for the speed.   We can
afford a new video card (~$500) if required. I realize the question
is fairly vague, but I'm still trying to formulate the platform setup.

Thanks for your help!

Glenn         gananney@mosaic.uncc.edu
  

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: higgins@mp.cs.niu.edu (Greg Higgins)
Subject: Desqview/X and Video Drivers/Monitors
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:05:11 GMT

I am planning to make Desqview/X the centerpiece of our office 
environment. I am beginning to dispair, however, at finding the 
right combination of video card and monitor which would be both
cost effective and useful.

Is anyone out there running Desqview/X in 1280x1024x256 NI mode? 
If so, what are you using for your video card/drivers.
If not, what are you using, and how do you rate it?

Thanks, 

E. Gregory Higgins, Systems Manager, higgins@math.niu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Keywords: dos 6
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:26:10 GMT

In article <dmurdoch.271.721580165@mast.queensu.ca> dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch) writes:
>In article <5575@krafla.rhi.hi.is> einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) writes:
>>I mean, DOS is a single tasking, single user, program loader.
>>It doesn't have any wildcard expansions build in.  Every program must
>>expand the wildcards for it self. 
>
>No, I think you must be thinking of Unix.  DOS does have wildcard expansion
>in the FindFirst/FindNext services.  In Unix it's up to the shell to do it.
>
>If you want, you could write a DOS shell that did the expansion itself, but 
>the loss of the ability to have positional parameters is a pretty big cost 
>to pay.
>
>This is one place where DOS got it right, and Unix got it wrong.  Of course, 
>DOS only got it half-right:  the wildcards aren't nearly as flexible as they 
>should be.

Those of us with long memories will remember that this is how Multics
used to do it. And it had, of course, wildcarding beyond the dreams of
Unix or MSDOS users.

Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.
From: sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Environment space, Path
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:49:15 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

From article <By73nD.B97@rice.edu>, by rbook@owlnet.rice.edu
(Robert Aaron Book):
> When I set my PATH in my AUTOEXEC.BAT file, the actual
> PATH variable displayed when typing SET does not have all the
> directories listed.  I think this is because of limited environment
> space, so I used the "SHELL=" line in CONFIG.SYS to make the
> environment space bigger (with the /e option of COMMAND.COM).
> 
> This did not work.  How can I fix this?
> 
> --Robert Book

Hmm.  Perhaps your PATH= line in AUTOEXEC.BAT is too long; DOS limits
the number of characters that can be entered in one command to 127.
If this is the case, you can use SUBST to equate paths with logical
drive letters, making the PATH command just a list of letters that
have been defined by earlier SUBST commands.

--

Steve Matheson   Program in Neuroscience   University of Arizona
sfm@neurobio.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jennrich@kastor.itp.uni-hannover.de (Oliver Jennrich)
Subject: HELP: Error while loading TC ?
Organization: Institut fuer Theoretische Physik, Uni Hannover
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:44:19 GMT

Hi out there !

I'm sorry if this is an FAQ ( and also if this is the wrong group),
but there's the following problem:

A friend of mine tries to run Borland's TC on a 386 PC,
ver about MSDOS 5.0.
She doesn't succeed, cause of a strange error wich occures
every time.
    >Memory manager cannot initialize
Unfortunately, my DOS manual doesn't report to this error ( even worse :
NO error at all ), so I can't do anything against it.

The real prob'is, that I can't figure out, if it is an error by DOS, or one
by TC. Strange enough, this error occurs only on *this* machine and only
while running TC (or at least try to ...).

I *know* that I should check the configuration, but I haven't *any* idea
what this error means...

any help is welcome

oliver

p.s.: PLEASE answer by email, 'cause i'm not very often in this group






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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jgjensen@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Help with Hard Disk access
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:41:22 MDT

OOPS,  I did a major boefoo.  Someone installed XLOCK ver 3.? a long time
ago on a PC I use at school.  XLOCK is a security system for PC.  I think it
writes over the .sys files so the computer must always talk to the Hard Drive
Throught It.  Anyway the other day I was cleaning up the hard drive.  I
deleted a file called XLOCKDAT.BIO.  This apparently is an IO file used at
boot up.  

After deleting this file, I shut of my computer.  On my next bootup I started
getting an Xlock error.  Step 2 using Norton Utilities I went onto absolute
sector and undeleted this file.  This got me back on to hard drive for the
day. I then set the attrib of this file to sys, hid, and read only.  I thought
I had fixed the problem.

Day 3 I log in and cannot access the C drive.  I can boot to a floppy but
cannot access the C drive.  I cannot format the drive, Norton Disk Doctor
cannot locate any partitions, etc.  I can only access using norton absolute
sector.  It tells me I can access a physical hard drive, but there is no
logical hard drive. I think I messed up the Fat for xlockdat.bio.

I tried to call Xlock in Georgia. Their Number is disconnected and there is
no listing for them.  There is suppose to be an emergency boot disk for XLOCK,
but no one Knows where it is.

How can I either recover the disk or reformat the disk?

(Oh yeah, Im not a novice, but Im also not an expert on PCs, so if solution
is complex tell me where to find reference info or help me by putting solution
in dumb-user language)

Thanks
JJ
From: mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: WARNING!:WATCH OUT SYSTEM PASSWORDS ARE ABOUT!)
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:35:28 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

WARNING!
If your computer has a setup program which you boot at Run-Time,
and it gives you the option of System Security.

Then Don't give it a password that you can't remember!
I did and it gave me nothing but hell since I had to remove the battery
from the CMOS. 
This is a warning!
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: sm13@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Michael Schulz)
Subject: >Help: read a DDOS-disk with MSDOS or WINDOWS ???
Keywords: DDOS
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:20:17 GMT

I need same informations about the DDOS-Diskformat

Who know any option to read a DDOS-disk with MSDOS or WINDOWS

please post 
			michael

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Help: Dos 5.0 Mirror command
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:57:54 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <peter.5@aci_1.aci.ns.ca> peter@aci_1.aci.ns.ca (Peter Cormier) writes:
>I have read that the new MIRROR command will save disk recovery data to be 
>used by the UNFORMAT command.  My source indicates that a copy of the FAT 
>and root directory is saved in a file called MIRRORSAV.FIL, and that this 
>file is saved on the disk located in the drive specified by the MIRROR 
>command.  My question is this.  After a format command has been issued where 
>is the file MIRRORSAV.FIL located?  

It's located wherever it used to be located :-) In addition, unless you
format with the /U[nconditional] option, format will do the equivelent
of a MIRROR. Format will only place this information in the last 1/4 of
the disk...makes it easier for unformat to find it if necessary. 

If you formatted with /u or another version of MS-DOS, unformat will
search the disk for any mirror files (these are identified by their
data format). Norton's and CPS' unformat programs perform in not 
dissimilar manner. All else fails (no mirror, nada) unformat will
TRY to reconstruct the disk using your subdirectory information.

>Am I wrong in believing that DOS uses 
>this file to restore the diskette to its condition as of the time the MIRROR 
>command was issued ?

Well...no, but as I said, unformat can also use information saved
by format...usually the info saved by format is more up-to-date.

>It appears that Microsoft has once again produced a good piece of 
>software supported by poor documentation.

Hmmm. I learned MS-DOS from the 4.0 manual, which was very like
the 3.3 manual, which was very like the 3.2 manual. The 5.0 manual
is an almost total rewrite.  It is MUCH better, but it's definitely
not perfect.  

The secrets to handling the MS-DOS 5 manual are:

Roughly the first half of the book is topical - files, disks, etc.

The second half is an alphabetical reference of commands (append
through xcopy) followed by an alphabetical reference of device
drivers (ansi to smartdrv). 

Most readers of this group likely will find the second half
more useful. But if you've got a 386, don't skip chapter 12.
Oh yeah...the index is accurate. 

>***************************************
>*          Peter Cormier              *
>*       PETER@ACI_1.ACI.NS.CA         *
>*     Atlantic Computer Institute     *
>*     Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada    *
>***************************************

-jen

Newsgroups: in.pc,comp.os.msdos.misc,general,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: rollj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey)
Subject: Hayes 2400bps Modem for Sale!
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Hayes, Modem, 2400bps
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:59:44 GMT

For Sale:

   One Hayes 2400bps Modem $50.00
Modem works great and is about 6 months old. Comes with user's manual.
I will take the best offer. If interested in making an offer

Send E-Mail to: rollj@sage.cc.purdue.edu

Thanks,
Jeffrey

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