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From: mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil)
Subject: misc
Organization: GMD-Fokus (Berlin)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:32:41 GMT


hi,
     cause my GF and i had a little trouble 
(guess it was x-mas/new-years-stress) i thought
i'll be soon a single again. that's the reason
why i started to read this newsgroup. loosing her
would be a very big problem for me (she left me
one year ago and after about 6 months she gave us
a new chance - as far as i can see i eliminated 
most of my failures in our relationsship, but...
blah, blah, blah, ...).

i have some questions and comments you might be
interested in. btw. - i'm 26.5 years old.

almost every girl i've been together with i've
met in discos (the last time was 6 years ago).
that was the time were i was 16 to 20. even
when i was 20 i found it not stupid to go to
the choosen person and ask her (my english is 
not the best, so i hope the following makes sense):
'am i allowed to know(?) you?'
                 ^
                 |
                 kennenlernen (meet?)

that sentence with a smile in my face *ALWAYS*
gave the result i wanted. and i didn't ask stupid
ugly girls, but i'm a little bit stupid and ugly.

today i would not know what to do. it's probably
not the best place to meet a girl i want to share 
my life with. i mean i wasn't in disco-music 
discotheques, but punk/wave ones. i don't feel too
old for that today, but THESE clubs don't exist 
anymore. and i don't want to go in a dancehall for
30 years old techno-idiots (sorry, i don't want to
start a flame war).

last year i tried to find a new girl, but i didn't
know where and i still don't know. i hope that i
don't need to search again.

i would be interested to know what you think about
starting a new relationsship. do you KNOW it will
be over one day and do you try to get the fun as
long as it's possible? or do you think (like i ever
did) that it should be something for your whole
life? i never left a girl even if it wasn't fun to
continue (btw. from MY point of view the relation-
ship to my GF *is* very good, except for her 
go-on-distance-beheauviour which occours too often
the last time).

and a last question, what means SO?

- tB!

ps: of course you could tell me what to do against
    broken hearts (yeah - i'm that kind of guy that
    goes to suicidal tendencies-mode), how to meet
    the RIGHT one, etc.
Xref: sparky soc.singles:35570 alt.romance:15759
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:01:42 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: finding it when ya ain't lookin'
Distribution: usa
 <1993Jan7.175638.2576@merrimack.edu>
 <1993Jan8.145019.15359@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>
 <1993Jan8.160724.27202@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>


Sigh.  Keith, look; the Universe, against its better judgement, has
made it *possible* for us to met potential relationship partners; no
way you are ever going to talk the universe into making it _easy_.

Besides, half of all fun is striving.

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: clever@sequent.com (Cathy Cleverley)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:42:03 GMT

R9S@ECL.PSU.EDU (Roberto G Sung) writes:

>> >>the fact that they weren't fashion model lookalikes.  They weren't
>> >>unattractive, but they weren't Christie Brinkley either.
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Alright, am i the only guy dumb enough to ask who this woman is?

Next time you're in a grocery store/magazine shop see the cover of
this month's issue of NEW WOMAN... *that* is Christie Brinkley.~

NOTE:  I am suggesting looking, not necessarily buying.
--
Cathy Cleverley                                 clever@sequent.com
Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.          +1 416 629-4000
"An expert is anyone more than 100 miles~
from home with a set of slides"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
Subject: Re: OKAY, I EAT CROW (FOR NOW)
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:43:05 GMT

In article <C0oDro.Ewt@unix.portal.com> mzank@shell.portal.com (matthew c zank) writes:
> [Meeting a woman story deleted]
>--
>Matthew Zank * Eau Claire, Wisconsin
>------------------------------------
>mzank@shell.portal.com
>MZANK@MCIMAIL.COM 

     Congratulations, Matthew.  Good luck in your friendship.

-- 
    Reggie elected into Hall of Fame!    +---------------------------------+
  +-----------------------------------+ /  Snowmobiling: Catch the fever! /
 /   // Mr. Tickle Monster   // Amiga ++---------------------------------+
|  \X/   W. David Rohwer   \X/  3000  /  Internet: rohwerwd@netcom.COM  /
+------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Facial hair
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:14:31 GMT

In article <C0pG50.Mvt@news.udel.edu> zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu writes:
>When it got really cold outside, my dad would always say:
>
>    Damn, it's colder than a witch's tit in a brass bra...
>
>
>As others have pointed out, the breasts themselves are not cold.
>But I bet the brass bra cools things off tremendously!!!

Though I can't claim to have much experience with brass bras, I have
made bikini tops out of chainmail before and, though there is an
initial sensation of coolness when they are first applied (I won't go
into the effects of this right now), but I understand that this soon
passes as the chainmail (not a lot of it, you know) is warmed up to
body temperature.

Trygve   (It's true!)
--
"The Compleat Guide to the Diagnosis and Repair of the IBM 360 with
 Ordinary Household Tools by Charles "Chucky Baby" Babbage.
 Step-by-step guide to repairing your IBM 360 and peripherals using
 nothing more than a spatula, peanut butter, and a wire wisk.  104pp."
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:25:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.035942.3748@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>     I think that Christie Brinkley is one of the most attractive
>women alive.  She is very sexy, pretty and has beautiful hair.

Yeah, but can she program?

-Thomas
 resident technoshaman


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Meeting women in clubs
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 22:36:50 GMT

In article <MARTINC.93Jan6112101@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.064828.3221@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>
>   Trygve   (Next, we'll discuss proper bench-press spotting technique;
>	     after that, we've got some films of improper technique....)
>
>Tryg, having her spotting you from *that* position is *certain* to
>interfere with proper breathing.

Well, it's not without its drawbacks, but that's why I go swimming at 
least occasionally to practice doing laps on one breath.  (This is
also very handy for being able to hold one's breath while cycling until
one has passed beyond the cloud of exhaust left behind by a particularly
ill-tuned bus.)

Trygve   (Of course it depends on whether I'm doing long, slow laps or
          using short, quick strokes.)
--
"To be or not to be = 0xFF"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: (Dan Perl)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: BNR Ottawa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 19:38:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.110549.9449@dg-rtp.dg.com>, morton@rtpnet06.rtp.dg.com (John R. Morton) writes:
|> 	I notice that certain religions
|> 	are exempt from being racist though. 
|> 	For example, if the South Africans shoot 5 blacks a day,
|> 	that's racism...
|> 	If the Israelis shoot 5 Arabs a day, thats ... ? religion ?
|> 	mystery !

The same way I can say:
If John R. Morton posts an anti-Israeli article, that's... religion?

The conflict between whites and blacks in South Africa is based on race
difference.  The conflict between Jews and Arabs in the Middle-East is based
on religion and ethnic background differences.  Both Jews and Arabs are of
the same race: they are semites.  All in all, the Middle-East conflict is much
too complex to be so simplistically labelled as a sign of Jews' prejudice
against Arabs.

-- 
Dan Perl	(613)763-9411
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex,talk.bizarre
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Dangerous Ideas Afoot
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:48:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.142916.45540@watson.ibm.com> jennings@chainsaw.fishkill.ibm.com () writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.112209.19629@wetware.com>, drieux@wetware.com
>(drieux, just drieux) writes:
>> dwb@cs.nott.ac.uk (David William Braithwaite) writes:
>> ] In article <1993Jan10.013644.11551@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com
>(drieux, just drieux) writes:
>> ] >bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
>> ] >] In article <1993Jan5.230440.507@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com
>(drieux, just drieux) writes:
>> ] >] 
>> ] >] )Modern Day Problems:
>> ] >] )
>> ] >] )"lets get linear, I want to get linear, linear"
>> ] >] )				Olivia Newton Algegra
>> ] >] 
>> ] >] Let's get metaphysical
>> ] >] 
>> ] >] - Olivia Newton Philosopher
>> ] >] 
>> ] >
>> ] >Lets Get Tactical
>> ] >
>> ] >	- Olivia Newton PanzerGruppen
>> ] 
>> ] Lets get FUNKY
>> ] 
>> ] 	- Olivia Newton Jamesbrown
>> 
>> I Just Hate People who Mix their Time Scales!
>> 
>> 
>> "Lets Get Self Referential, Self Referential..."
>> 
>> 	Olivia Newton Hofstader
>> 
>> 
>Let's get rich and chewy inside...	
>
>       Olivia Fig Newton
 
Lets get fruit upside the head
        Olivia Issac Newton
 

================================================================================
 Steatopygias's 'R' Us.          doh#0000000005 That ain't no Hottentot.
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. AMA#669373 DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Newspaper "personals"
Date: 7 Jan 1993 12:40:08 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <C0H28E.4rr@unix.portal.com> mzank@shell.portal.com (matthew c zank) writes:
}What we need is a good war to bring down the high men to women
}numbers, I think we are over due for a war, that is way there
}is more men then women, and why women are so picky.

It wouldn't work.  Here in the U.S. there are 102 male newborns for every
100 female newborns, but higher mortality among the males leads to a 1:1
ratio at the age of sexual maturity.  However, after World War II the birth
ratio climbed to 103:100 briefly.

The sound male strategy is to outlive other males.  The male:female ratio
is quite favorable to males in the geriatric set.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Xref: sparky soc.singles:36133 alt.romance:15960
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:08:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan7.014459.29025@news2.cis.umn.edu> esper@a1.ima.umn.edu (Dave Sherohman) writes:

|Well, looks like ballroom dancing is the first to get multiple endorsements...

Not true.  Tutoring at school, meeting on a ski lift, and "at a bar" all
have multiple endorcements.  

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Meeting guys
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:23:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.080853.6159@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>
>I have a big, black limo just waiting to pick YOU up at the Victoria BC
>Airport. Temptress, just tell me when you're arriving and we'll do HighTea at 
>the Empress Hotel, Wot.

9.0
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Virtual anniversary: 6 days ago
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Greetings, james. Hark tis phantasm.
Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:11:50 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1993Jan5.164001.28339@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
}You would prefer "Steatopygous's 'R' Us" mayhaps...

Hot 'n, tot!

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Facial hair
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:00:33 GMT

In article <1irocnINNog8@mirror.digex.com>, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
|> In article <thurlow.726690280@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
|> }1) What do you generally think of a well-trimmed beard?
|> 
|> You'll probably find that people think of you as being more aggressive even
|> if you aren't.  Contrary to what someone else said, a beard usually makes
|> one look older.  One of the reasons I began growing my current beard on 
|> May 16, 1975, was that people were underguessing my age by about 7 years or
|> so.  Now they underguess by only 3-4 years.  Perhaps the gray will help.

It's funny, beard-growing must be a popular winter vacation activity. I got
bored with my old look and decided to experiment with the mustache/goatee
thing, and damned if half the people at work didn't do the *exact* same
thing!  It was eerie. 

An odd thing I've noticed is that, while I do think it makes me look a bit
older I get carded at bars *more* now...like they think to themselves "I'll
bet he grew that just so he could look old enough to drink."

jds

***************************************************************************
                               * Health and knowledge and wealth and power,
Jeff Smith                     * Passion and poems and sex
smith@fl08-g.comm.mot.com      * I wear a smile like a leather glove,
                               * I won't shut my mouth for less.
                                                - shriekback
***************************************************************************
From: mysti@sierra.sybase.com (Mysti Rubert)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man be?
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:28:06 GMT

In article <1iflinINNa09@uwm.edu>, markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
|> Strong enough in body to lift his own weight, 

rather, strong enough to accept assistance when a burden is too large

|> strong enough in personality to
|> be indominatible,

better strong enough in personality to assist in cooperative ventures without
risking loss of identity,

|> strong enough in intelligence to have an deeply intuitive
|> grasp of Einstein's physics, Goedel's logic, and mastery of several human
|> languages, 

I prefer strong enough to listen to heart and soul as well as intellect

|> strong enough in capitalist spirit to be self employed, 

that would be 20% of the U.S. population (minus female self-employeds)

|> and
|> strong enough in his capacity to love to be able to simultaneously fulfill
|> more than one lover's needs (which is pretty damn strong).

I think the person who is strong enough to fufill this last requirement
must have some odd anatomical additions....

Isn't flexibility one of the measures of strength?  Aren't the men who
survive in wheelchairs strong?  Aren't the men who care for little children
and teach quiet arts strong?  

-- 
========================
Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It's not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
From: das@emmapeel.ca.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:46:18 GMT

Most of my free time is devoted to ballroom/swing/contra/folk dancing, so I've 
tended to meet most SO's that way:

At a New Year's Eve dance (he was sitting at the next table alone, I thought
he was cute but I was too shy to do anything, so my friend asked him to dance
then invited him to join us).
In dance classes and workshops.
At dances.

Other ways:

At work.
Boy next door.
Through newspaper personal ads.
Brother of friend.
Friend of friends.

------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das
 "I've never fallen in love, but I've stepped in it a few times." 
				            - from _Peter's Friends_
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ua308@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Andreas Tovornik)
Subject: Test Again
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:12:10 GMT



I tried this before, so I'll try it again.
kindly send me email to this account or the other if ya get dis
littel massage </.)

dreas
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: morton@rtpnet06.rtp.dg.com (John R. Morton)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 11:05:49 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

>>>Tim, stuff it.  Didn't you read what she wrote?  Her religion forbids it.
>>>You can call religion an archaic basis for mating, but the majority of
>>>the world happens not to agree with you.  

	this is a very racist attitude... I notice that certain religions
	are exempt from being racist though. 
	For example, if the South Africans shoot 5 blacks a day,
	that's racism...
	If the Israelis shoot 5 Arabs a day, thats ... ? religion ?
	mystery !

Xref: sparky soc.singles:36264 alt.sex:41834
From: an4198@anon.penet.fi (Jack Coyote)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex
Subject: Worst Pick-Up Lines
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:42:33 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.singles,alt.sex

One evening, a mixed gender & preference group was sitting in a basement pub
throwing peanuts & popcorn at each other. After overhearing a VERY weak attempt
at seduction, we spawned:

*************** THE ALL-TIME WORST PICK-UP LINE CONTEST **********************

(Judged by the pub occupants, unbeknownst to them.  Each line was tested by a
willing volunteer -- provided we bought another round.)

Entrants Included:

  "I like your skin. I'd like to make a couch/bed out of it."

  "Do you have any ______ in you? Would you like some?"

  "Yo! WENCH!"

  "I'd like to lick between your toes -- the big ones."
  
  "Say... are those real?"

  Judging was called on account of the fact that one of the lines actually
worked, and we lost our Judge.


					Jack Coyote
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From: phantasm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: We owe respect to the living...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:35:45 GMT

To the dead we owe only truth...
		-Voltaire

Vent...

Relating to Shelley...

From blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.):

> I find it >really< hard to believe that
> one can't find a single jewish man in a city of 300,000 people.

I can find a single living female (one of my criteria) in a city of 300,000
people... That doesn't necessarily mean I want to be with her or that I do
not desire to meet others...

> Nowhere do I say that I don't have respect for your concerns or opinions.
> Just that I think they are archaic and silly.

> You wave your private life out in front of 60,000 people and expect everyone
> to be kind and happy and helpful, and then get upset when somebody thinks
> your ideas suck.

Indeed, I do not understand where Shelley got the idea that you do not respect
her concerns or opinions...

> Not only Dan (whatever the hell happened to him, anyways?) but many others
> who post confrontational opinions were held in high regard by many many
> people.

> Many many thousands of people on the net have heard
> of 'blowfish' or read my words.

Many were/are; many were/are not...

From jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton):

> I would suggest professional help for you shelley but then you need a mind
> for it to do any good.

This is sure to boost our opinion of you, james...

> Speaking of safe little lonesome cocoons had any luck finding Mr jewish Right
> yet. How about dating a scrawny alien who never bathes? He's guaranteed
> to whine on command.

As opposed to whining perpetually...

May Fortune smile on your quest, Shelley...

phantasm
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Meeting women in clubs
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:22:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi) writes:

>   Great!  I'd recently went out with someone, but when introduced
>to her roommate I was more attracted to I had to figure out a way
>to stop all of this from getting outta hand.  So I told the first
>one how I felt and she has never called again.  The roommate had
>no feelings towards me so it has all gone away into oblivion.  A
>rare case of LJBF in reverse that fizzled too fast.

I'm not surprised the roommate didn't go for you. Dropping someone the
minute you find someone you're more attracted to is not particularly
appealing behavior. She probably figured, "what would prevent him from 
doing that to me later on?" 

--
Stef                 "What would *you* call the creation of the universe?"
stef@apple.com       "The Horrendous Space Klablooie!"             
                                                              - Watterson
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:33:12 GMT

In article <ewright.726524764@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <1993Jan7.225814.20952@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>>Why not?  It's been my experience that the kind of person you are and
>>the subtle details of your personality are much more important to the
>>success of a relationship than any set of easilly quantified indices.
>
>Yet, you've said you wouldn't date a woman who lacked those
>easily quantified indices (physical attractiveness) no matter
>what kind of person she was or what th subtle details of her
>personality.  

Well, I'm glad you can quantify physical attractiveness so easilly; I
find it very hard to quantify--first of all, none of the women I've 
been most attracted to in the past were particularly close to the
"cultural ideal" as seen on TV, nor have any of them looked particularly
like any of the others.  They've been tall, short, thin, rubinesque,
etc., etc., etc.  I still haven't figured out any obvious physical
characteristics they had in common beyond, say, being female and having
the same number of limbs.  Worse yet, this sort of assessment is even
more difficult because it keeps changing--women who may or may not have
struck me as being especially attractive at first tend to get more and
more attractive the longer I spend with them.

I don't remember making such a statement--I have, however, said that I
wouldn't be romantically involved with a woman who didn't find *me*
attractive and you took me to task for that assertion.  Perhaps you're
thinking of that argument? 

>You've certainly done an excellent job of avoiding "foolish
>consistency."

Thanks--hmmmm...now to work on "lumpy consistency."

Trygve   (I wonder if I could borrow Herb's device for measuring 
          ocular separation and middle finger length; perhaps that
          would make the whole issue of physical attraction make
          much more sense.)
--
"Any government that resorts to enslaving its citizens to protect itself
 has automatically eliminated any moral basis for its continued existence."
Newsgroups: soc.singles