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From: sltxh@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Theatre Ghosts (1000 thanx!)
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:41:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

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thanks :)

    I am new to this group, since my university just statrted carrying it!
But ONE THOUSAND THANKS for doing it!!! :)
    This has always been an area of some interest to me, ans Alt. paranorm
was too oriented towards OBE s.

    NOW, for the meat of the post. My particular interest is in the area
of THEATRE ghosts. It seems that slmost every theatre I've been in,
has some resident member of the nether world supposedly there. As I work
with lighting design in theatres, (not professionally alas), It is easy 
to understand how these stories can seem believeable (especially at 2:00
in the morning, when you're all alone, and here someone in the catwalk!)
    Now, I've never has any personal experiences with this particular 
aparition, but the local Lyric theatre is said to have a ghost, who sits
in the balcony. It is said that if you stqand center stage at midnight, 
and quote GOOD shakespear, h'ell clap. If not...:(. As i said, i've had
no personal experience with him, but I have a friend who claimed that he 
tried it... that's abiout all he'll say about it too! 
    Anyone else out there have any Theatre ghost stories? 
 Luv ta' hearthem! Keep on talkin'!
              
                           Joel M. Poppleton     
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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Re: Ouija Boards
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:46:51 GMT

I know that a lot of times ouija movements are forced, but I have had a few
weird experiences with them. The most perplexing occurred when a friend and
I were trying it with a homemade setup: little pieces of paper with letters
spread out on the kitchen table, and an upside down glass for a pointer. I
know, I know- pretty cheesy, but we didn't have a board and we figured that
the spirits wouldn't care. (?)
   Anyway, the lights in the room were out, with a candle providing the only
light (not to mention a spooky atmosphere). We had moistened the rim of the
glass with water to let it slide more easily, but were not getting any 
promising messages. My friend got up and left the room to go to the bathroom,
and I just sat and stared at our makeshift "board". It was then that the
glass started moving- without anyone touching it. I'd say it slid about 4 
inches in a straight line, and at a constant speed.
   Needless to say, this unsettled me quite a bit. The table was level, and
I was quite sober at the time. The way I explain it to myself is that it was
some strange effect of the surface tension between the damp glass and the
table cloth. Could be. 
-- 
Matt Garretson                       :-)                          garrem@rpi.edu
From: curry@acsu.buffalo.edu (Bud)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: College Ghosts
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:58:11 GMT
Organization: UB

jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:

>Did egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu really type:
>> 
>> I HATE stories like this.  I usually worry for a few minutes about
>> looking out the window, thinking I'll see someone (probably very pale
>> and dead) looking in.  Just one of my idiosyncracies.

>If that bothers you, don't think about turning around and seeing who (or
>what) is standing behind you...

oh great now I am afraid to turn around.

			Bud
-- 
autarch came up with this on Tue Sep  1 16:42:37 EDT 1992
Rudin's Law:
	If there is a wrong way to do something, most people will
	do it every time.
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Ouija Boards
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:10:51 GMT
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Robin J Nakkula (rnakkula@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:

: My sister used to say that my board told her a great many things
: (most of which she would deny today): that she used to be a Civil War
: soldier who was hanged for desertion (explaining her dislike of
: neckties and scarves) but I never had the opportunity to ask the board
: stuff like that for myself.

my older sister's ouija board told her in 1972 that she was going to
die on her 15th birthday (2 january 1973). she's 34 now...

served her right to spend a few months being scared, though, after all
the tricks she played on us. her favorite was to get us to play hide
and seek, then to constantly move from hiding place to hiding place
inside the house. when we finally gave up, she'd come out and claim
that she'd used witchcraft to hide in the attic or on the roof or
somewhere similar. being a gullible 9-year-old, i mostly believed her.

--
sine nomine | debbie martinson
"my words are paper tigers, no match for the predator of pain inside
her. i say love will come to you, hoping that because i say the words
they're true" -- indigo girls
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.ghost-stories:361 alt.folklore.urban:23367
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.urban
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Ghost writing...
	<1992Sep9.200746.28261@wam.umd.edu>
	<1992Sep10.182529.2577@HQ.Ileaf.COM>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:45:32 -0500

In <1992Sep10.182529.2577@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, Hal Wadleigh writes:
>All the following are true:
>
>1. Some dead authors put out new books written after they are dead.
>2. Some live authors put out books they have never seen themselves.
>3. Some authors who never existed as real people put out books.

>An example of 2 is Ron Goulart's Tek books published as by Shatner.
another is "imprisoned with the pharaohs", originally credited to harry houdini
but actually written by h.p. lovecraft.  modern lovecraft anthologies list it
as written "with harry houdidni".
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: WAS104@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: RE: Bloody Mary-the chant of choice
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:58:16 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Yup!  At Girl Scout Camp there was a cabin, supposively (bad, bad spelling) HaU
nted by the ghost/spirit of some chick that was raped and/or killed many moons
ago while at camp.
Needless to say, the brave souls we we're decided to spend the night in there.
We sat in a circle on the floor and said "bloody Mary-Bloody Mary-Bloody Mary c
ome to us" WEll nothing happened......UNTILL!
WE had decided to go to bed, and the one girl (kim for all intents and purposes
) SWEARS she locked the cabin door.  So we're sleepin" and out of no where in t
he middle of the night (a very calm night I might  add) the door Flies, I mean
FLIES open.....
let's just say, i haven't moved so fast since....we slept in my mom's truck tha
t night.....and made her go get our stuff.. but the weird thing is, 'kim' Swear
s to this day she locked the door, and the candles we used for the "seaance(yet
 another bad spelling) were gone.
What "Mary" wanted with the candles i don't know-maybe it's dark where she is,
I don't know, but that's my experience....it may not be the most exciting of th
em all, but it's true

                     tara
From: sclever@nmt.edu (Shawn Clever)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Ouija Book
Date: 6 Sep 92 05:01:11 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech

I would be interested in the location of said book also.

Shawn Clever
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.urban
From: hal@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Hal Wadleigh)
Subject: Re: Ghost writing...
Reply-To: hal@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Hal Wadleigh)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:25:29 GMT

All the following are true:

1. Some dead authors put out new books written after they are dead.
2. Some live authors put out books they have never seen themselves.
3. Some authors who never existed as real people put out books.

An example of 1 is V.C. Andrews, whose name is used on books written by
others who use characters and plotlines begun by the "real" V.C.Andrews.

An example of 2 is Ron Goulart's Tek books published as by Shatner.

Examples of 3 abound among "series" books in which a publisher's "house"
pen name is used on books written by a series of contract writers.

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From: tomer@emav29.webo.dg.com (David Tomer)
Subject: Re: Theatre ghosts
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 18:47:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Data General Corp., Westborough, MA
Followup-To: alt.folklore.ghost-stories

In article <1992Aug27.200356.11156@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, gregb@gout.austin.ibm.com writes:
>Anyone have good theatre ghost stories?

    There was a story handed down in my high school theater club.  The
school is Aquinas Institute, in Rochester, NY.  (Anybody reading this
who worked in that theater earlier than 1981?  Maybe you can add to or
clarify the story.)

    The story was that sometime in the late fifties a girl named
Phyllis was to appear in a show, but was killed in a car accident just
before opening night.  An understudy took over, and at the end of the
performance the whole cast posed for a group picture.  Sure enough,
when the pictures came out, there in the back row was Phyllis, wearing
the costume she would have worn on stage.

    There still exists a small room a couple floors above the stage that
is known as Phyllis' room.  It was once a makeup room, but is just for
storage now (costumes, props, etc.).  People have reported closing and
locking the windows in that room, only to find them unlocked and open
the next day.  But, like most such stories *I've* heard (except the ones
in this group), everything was second- or third-hand.

    We have some bare bulbs on the wall around the periphery of the
stage that we introduce to Freshmen as Phyllis' lights.  We'll turn the
lights off, but when we flip them back on, they don't come on right
away!  We say they'll come on when Phyllis wants them to.  BUT, they're
mercury vapor lamps, or some such, so really the gas has to condense a
bit before they'll light up again.

-- 
*  David M. Tomer            *   "What's so unpleasant about being     *
*  tomer@emav29.webo.dg.com  *   drunk?"  "You ask a glass of water."  *
*  (Data General Corp.)      *         - Douglas Adams, _THGTTG_       *
*  -- Disclaimer:  Speaking for myself, not my employer.           --  *
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: College Ghosts
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:18:00 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

From article <1992Sep4.221406.20689@midway.uchicago.edu>, by wagner@newton.uchicago.edu (John Wagner):

I've only just found this group. How's this for a college ghost. The
Principle's garden at Jesus College Oxford is said to be haunted by a
17th century maid. The tale goes that the area was a royalist hospital
in the civil war and the girl worked there and fell in love with a
wounded cavalier. He was taken away and she died of a broken heart and
now comes back to look for him. Must confess I never saw her myself
though.

Andy
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: mccarthy@well.sf.ca.us (Patrick McCarthy)
Subject: Hearse ghosts?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:03:48 GMT

I was just curious to know whether any hearse owners out there have ever
experienced anything out of the ordinary as regards their cars.  I myself
own a '67 Pontiac Bonneville hearse, and although I've never had anything
wierd happen, it would be interesting to know whether anyone else has.

 - Pat
mccarthy@well.sf.ca.us
From: v095qhyg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CONSTANTINOS I. ORFANOS)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Ghosts in ancient ruins??
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep4.213945.18761@midway.uchicago.edu>, wagner@newton.uchicago.edu (John Wagner) writes...
>In article <1684E9D54.G0900@vmcms.csuohio.edu> G0900@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:
>>I am interested in Ancient ruins of Greece, Turkey and Egypt.  I have
>>been to Greece and was wondering if anyone has heard any interesting
>>stories about the ruins???  Does anyone know of any books about sightings
>>in Greece?? I have heard stories from England but never have heard any
>>about Greece.
>> 
>>Thanks Katherine  g0900 at csuohio or g0900 at vmcms.csuohio.edu
> 
>	Beware the ides of March!
> 
>				J. Wagner

         Definitely,  Julius Caeser's ghost to Brutus before the Battle of
  Phillipi in Shakespeare's book.    I have also heard from my father, stories
  of Roman armies (or might have been any ancient armies) marching through
  famous battle sites.  He did not mention any specifics.

                           C.O.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: wagner@newton.uchicago.edu (John Wagner)
Subject: Re: Can anyone verify these DC ghost stories?
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:10:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.034455.17950@colorado.edu> bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.062850.22841@tamsun.tamu.edu> jcj9536@tamsun.tamu.edu (Cindy Brown) writes:
>>In article <Aug18.205754.42836@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> yin@CS.ColoState.EDU (hwei yin) writes:
>>>The "Goatman"
>>>  Something about a satyr-like goat man that wanders around the local woods
>>>at night.  It has supposedly been seen by motorists passing through.  He said
>>>something about the thing jumping through the roofs of parked cars, knocking
>>>off people making out in the car.
>
>The last line gives it away.  Basically assume _any_ story of someone/
>something catching and punishing teenagers making out is an urban legend,
>not a true story.
>
>
>Bear Giles
>bear@fsl.noaa.gov

Hey! The "Goat-Man" was described by a girl in "American Graffiti!"
(This is a George Lucas movie)  He would rip the appendages off of couples
and swap them.  It was on film. It must be true.

				J. Wagner


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: College Stories and Request
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:58:54 GMT

	in response to (sorry, i'm terrible with names) whomever was wondering
if there were any psych majors out there, i'm a parapsych major. although i'm
sure you wanted someone who could tell you whether or not these were
hallucinations, not someone who can jump up and down and say "poltergeist!"
"entity!" "dybbuk!".  sorry, i'm a little too into my work.  but i do have a
college haunting story.
	here at crazy little hampshire college in amherst, ma, we had a student
jump off one of the dorm balconies about four years ago.  ever since then,
there have been rumours of a "ghostly shape" (i love these technical terms-
defining a "ghostly shape" is like defining "normal" =)  ) walking around the
hall where the woman used to live. (meantime i'm running around trying to find
it.. i never seem to quite be there at the right time.  ah well.)  we also have
a haunted room, where supposedly someone died, which just exudes nastiness. 
people who have lived in the room have had really freaky experiences; strange
accidents,personality changes, etc.  i myself try to stay as far away from the
hall as possible.
	now for a question.  i'm div 2 right now, but will be div 3 next year.
(for those unfamiliar with the hampshire system, a div 3 is sort of like a
thesis)  i want to do my div 3 on haunted houses of new england, esp. the
amherst area.  is there anyone out there with a haunted house or who knows of
someone with a haunted house that i could investigate?  really, i'm harmless.
email me at lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu, or respond to the list.  thanks for
your time!

				lisa


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: klh@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM (Kevin Harrell)
Subject: A ghost called Mary Worth verses Bloody Mary
Reply-To: klh@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM (Kevin Harrell)
Organization: I P Sharp Associates, Toronto
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:50:09 GMT

Are we sure we're talking about the same Mary here?  When I hear "Bloody Mary"
I think of Queen Mary Tudor, daughter of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon. 
Brought up Roman Catholic and excluded from court after her mothers divorce
in 1533.  She succeeded to the throne in 1553 after the death of her half
brother Edward VI and the usurption of Lady Jane Grey.  She married Philip II
in 1554 and the alliance with Spain provoked rebellion in England.  Her
reign brought back Catholicism and resulted in religious persecution (1555-8)
in which 300 Protestants were put to death.  Bloody Mary was followed to
Queen Elizabeth I, daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn.  Liz brought back
the Protestant church and in doing so wrote Mary's history and reputation. 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.folklore.urban
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Subject: Re: Ghost writing...
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:47:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.234823.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvetp036@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>
>BTW, for you H.P. Lovecraft readers out there, any truth behind the dreaded
>Necronomicon? I HAD a copy of that I bought at a bookstore, just for the hell
>of it.
>
SIGH.

The Necronomicon is wholly fictious.  As a sort of joke, Lovecraft wrote up
a little piece giving the history of it, including the various editions and
the locations of the 5 known copies.  Many people didn't get the joke and
have searched for a copy.

Other people decided to write their own Necronomicon and palm it off on these
idiots as the real thing.  I have heard of three totally different versions
created.  The latest was even printed in paperback.  Several stores carried
it in their 'Occult' section.  Heck I have a copy of this one.  The existence
of these books makes it difficult to convince some people (like Fundementalists)
that the Necronomicon and the monsters Lovercraft created are just fiction.
I should know as I have had discussions/arguements with some of these people.

The whole idea for the Necronomicon was inspired in part by the non-existantant
play "The King in Yellow" mentioned in a series of short stories by Robert
Chambers and the real grimories that existed like the "Keys of Solomon".
Many of the 'Lovecraft Circle' created their own books to add to the list.
These books include "The Revelations of Glaaki", the "Unspeakable Cults", the
"Cultes de Goules" and other tomes.

Michael Brown   

-- 
<<                                                               >>
<< Michael R. Brown    CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ >>
<< Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu                            >>
<< BitNet: m_brown@fauvax                                        >>
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Hearse ghosts?
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:48:41 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

From article <Bu6r2D.464@well.sf.ca.us>, by mccarthy@well.sf.ca.us (Patrick McCarthy):

A rather different hearse ghost, but the spectre of the medieval plague cart is
said to be seen moving along Holywell Street in Oxford from the site of
the old plague hospital Wadham/Manchester College to the burial pit
outside the city wall (somewhere on Longwall Street I believe - 
alternative view New College gardens but I never saw any ghosts there) 
Bring out your dead!

Andy
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: a ghost called Mary Worth
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-19878]: sinbad
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:55:40 GMT


In article <1992Sep13.045034.27565@news.nd.edu>, wlamonac@bach.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
> In article <1992Sep12.141940.3452@access.digex.com> betsy@access.digex.com (Betsy Marks) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep2.175222.1877@bradley.bradley.edu> death@buhub.bradley.edu (Dustin Slater) writes:
> >>We also had this same sort of thing as a kid, but for us you could make her
> >>appear by turing in a circle three times with the light off and saying a
> >>"chant". In so doing this supposedly arms were going to appear out of the
> >>mirror and scratch your face.
> >>--
> >>death@buhub.bradley.edu                              death@camelot.bradley.edu
> >
> >So did we, but in our version, you were supposed to say "Bloody Mary" three
> >times.  (This was in Rochester, NY.  Where were the other versions known?)
> >
> >And by the way; no, I never tried it.
> >
> >-betsy {Araminta, Goddess of Phonelists}
> >
> >     <betsy@access.digex.com   h) 202/244-2958   w) 202/554-9066 x262>
>
> That's the version I heard too- just repeat "Bloody Mary" over and over.  Our
> local variation (Drexel Hill, a suburb of Philadelphia) was that Bloody Mary
> was the Devil's wife and there were several ways to manifest her:

Add the east central Alabama area to that as well. Except, I don't
remember that she was supposed to be the devil's wife. I always
assumed (yeah, I know what that does to you) that it was Mary, the
Queen of England. She was married to Phillip, I think and they
were responsible for the execution of hundreds (if not thousands)
of people in England. For this reeason she bacame known as "Bloody
Mary". JMO, of course....

--
			   ||  "Some of it's magic...Some of it's tragic...
Misti D. Jordan            ||   but I had a good life all the way..."
jordan@cs.tulane.edu       ||                   -- Jimmy Buffett
    "I want to be good... but being bad is so rewarding!" -- Morgana Duck
From: Dan.Bjorklund@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Dan Bjorklund)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: my girlfriiend's haunted house
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:25:15 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

When I was little my family lived in a old house out in the country.
The house and the land had been in another family for many generations, 
so my family was the first to buy the property.
Not a whole lot happened in the house until I was about two years old.  
My parents were going through a very messy divorce and soon odd things 
began happening.  My sisters were up in there room talking and a comb flew
off the dresser and landed right at one sister's foot.
About a week or so later my brother were in the bedroom that would be mine
when I got older, my grandmothers rocking chair was in the same room, and 
it began rocking--all by itself.
Then later on,  my mom was sitting in the same chair, rocking me and crying.
She said she felt like there were arms around both of us, like we were 
being comforted.
After that my brothes and sisters experienced things they won't talk 
about.  But I was never scared ,  I do remeber being four years old and
sitting on a swing and someone was pushing me on the swing.  I know
it wasn't one of my family and we lived so far out I didn't have any friends
My mom told me that I said the ghosts were my friends and my family
shouldn't be afraid of them. 

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From: wagner@newton.uchicago.edu (John Wagner)
Subject: News of the weird
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:54:13 GMT

There is a place on a highway in the hills Northwest of Fayetteville,
Arkansas, where one thinks that up is down and vice versa.

			J. Wagner

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