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From: grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: BOXSCORE:  San Antonio 114  Denver 94  30.Dec.92
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Big Ed's Gas Farm
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:57:53 GMT



The MIGHTY NUGGETS lose a club-record 12th straight game.  Pathetic.


san 114, den 94   30dec92

san antonio dale ellis technical foul 1:28 3rd quarter
denver reggie williams technical foul 1:28 3rd quarter
denver illegal defense technical foul 2:11 2nd quarter

san (14-12)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
reid,j.r.         31   4  11   0  0   4  7   3 11   0  4  1  2  0  0  0  0   12
elliott,sean      40  10  14   1  2   3  4   2  4   5  2  1  3  0  0  0  0   24
robinson,david    37  10  13   0  0   9 13   2 11   3  4  0  2  7  0  0  0   29
ellis,dale        30   3   5   1  2   0  0   0  2   2  3  0  1  1  1  0  0    7
delnegro,vinnie   37  10  14   0  0   2  4   1  2   6  1  1  2  0  0  0  0   22
smith,larry       18   0   1   0  0   0  0   1  2   2  4  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
daniels,lloyd     13   2   7   0  0   0  0   0  1   1  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    4
johnson,avery     24   4   6   0  1   4  5   0  6   3  2  1  2  2  0  0  0   12
mack,sam          10   2   7   0  1   0  0   2  3   0  3  0  1  0  0  0  0    4
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
san totals       240  45  78   2  6  22 33  11 42  22 24  4 14 10  1  0  0  114
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .577   .333   .667       team rebs 15

den ( 7-19)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
ellis,laphonso    23   3   5   0  0   1  2   1  3   0  5  0  0  2  0  0  0    7
williams,reggie   42   5  17   0  1   4  4   3  3   2  2  1  2  1  1  0  0   14
mutombo,dikembe   33   4  11   0  0   3  6   5 17   1  5  0  2  3  0  0  0   11
jackson,chris     42  10  23   0  3   4  4   2  4  11  1  2  2  0  0  0  0   24
macon,mark        19   2   4   0  0   0  0   0  0   2  4  0  1  0  0  0  0    4
pack,robert        9   0   3   0  0   2  2   0  0   2  2  1  0  0  0  0  0    2
lichti,todd       26   7  13   0  0   2  3   1  2   0  3  2  0  0  0  0  0   16
plummer,gary      25   2   8   0  1   3  4   3  8   0  4  1  1  0  0  0  0    7
liberty,marcus     3   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
hastings,scott     9   2   2   0  0   0  0   1  2   0  3  1  1  0  0  0  0    4
brooks,kevin       9   2   5   1  3   0  0   0  0   0  0  1  0  0  0  0  0    5
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den totals       240  37  92   1  8  19 25  16 39  18 29  9  9  6  1  0  0   94
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .402   .125   .760       team rebs  9
procedure technicals 1

san   26  23  30  35  -  114
den   19  29  27  19  -   94

attendance 17022, time 2:06, officials: BFryer,GBenson,DStafford

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Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: jdm42241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doug Mraz)
Subject: Re: Pacers/Warriors trade RUMOR
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:09:58 GMT

This seems like a decent deal from the Pacers' view, but my concern is whether
Dale Davis could play 30+ miuntes a night at Center. Then again once Greg
Dreiling comes back it wouldn't be a problem. (The Pacers play better with
Dreiling starting than Smits). Plus Detlef Schrempf could play Center in a    
pinch, although he'd give away a lot of weight to his opponent. LaSalle Thompsoncoud play Center also.  I don't think GM Donnie Walsh will make this deal, but
given the current Indiana record he may feel pressured to make a move.

-- 
Here come the Hawks, the mighty Blackhawks! Repeat-a-Bulls 
"The power to tax involves the power to destroy." John Marshall.

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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Re: *All Star Game 1993*
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:41:52 GMT

In article <1ifs4vINNrcv@news.aero.org> robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
>In article <1ifpn3INNpij@shelley.u.washington.edu> tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx) writes:
>|
>|		west: karl malone, charles barkeley, chris mullen,
>|		      tim hardaway, john stockton, clyde drexler,
>|		      david robinson, hakeem olajuwan, james worthy(?),
>|		      gary payton(?),
>
>Instead of Worthy & Payton, could we have Sedale Threatt & Danny Manning?

Instead of Worthy, it might be  either Kemp or Manning.  Kemp has really
improved a lot and is more "showtime" than Manning.  I also have a feeling
that Kemp is more popular with fans.. however, I also think Manning is more
consistetnt and is really an outstanding player.  I would choose Manning out
of those two.

As for the guard, Payton might get the nod over Threatt.  This is a pretty
tough choice here.  Payton has defnitely improved his shot and his drive to the
hoop since last year.  A lot of the time I think he is more intense than 
Threatt.  If I were to make the choice, I would probably choose Threatt though
because he has always played at a very high level and is very consistent where
Paytonh still sometimes has bad streaks.

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>
>|      * no magic johnson this time, right?  /tt300zx
>
>You never know.........
>
>|        p.s. by the way, did michael jordan and isiah thomas missed
>|	     their shots ON PURPOSE against magic johnson in the
>|	     all-star game last year? 
>
>Of COURSE they did. And they were successful -  as opposed to Magic,
>who tried desperately to miss three straight 3 pointers, but failed
>dismally.
>
>			R.S.


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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: Bulls without His Airness
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:46:47 GMT

>>> you think the bulls just won two in a row because of jordan
>>> and only jordan, don't you?  

>> Yup.  That's because it's true and noone I know would argue it.  

> That's because all of your Western Conference anti-Bulls buddies think the
> same biased way that you do.

a friend of mine, who happens to be one of those rabid bull-type fans,
and i were talking the other day along a similar line and he agreed with
me that pippen's emergence is a direct result of playing next to mikey.
had mj not been there for pippen, his game would in no way resemble what
it is today.  note: this isn't intended as a slam on pippen.

of course, without mikey ... no doubt the bulls would have drafted too
high to draft pippen.

> And most consider Grant highly underrated.  One of the best offense
> rebounders in the league ...  

i find it interesting that grant is highly rated in O boards, but not in
Total boards.  perhaps an overabundance of balls bouncing around on the
bulls offensive end? ;-)

btw ... a rabid laker fan/friend of mine told me: "you won't understand
what bull fans are having to endure until your team has put a few rings
on their fingers."  my team is the spurs ... ouch!

james

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: edo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Edward Ouellette)
Subject: Re: Bill Cartwright
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:10:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.170203.8785@sol.UVic.CA> campos@sirius.UVic.CA (Marcello  Campos) writes:
>Hi, could anyone tell me for which team Bill Cartwright played before
>he joined Chicago Bulls?
>Thanks,
>Marcello.
>
>
I think he played for the Knicks from 79-80 until 87-88 when the bulls traded
(Oakley?) for him.

Ed Ouellette

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From: raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani)
Subject: Re: Sonics' draft picks
Keywords: Sonics Seattle
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:06:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.073834.25290@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper) writes:
|> Anybody know what the situation is on the Sonics' future draft picks? Now
|> that the tradefest seems to be over, I'd love to know where they stand,
|> especially for this year's draft. Are they back to their own picks, or do
|> they have more or less? I know it's pretty early to be thinking about the
|> draft, but I'd love to see the Sonics make a deal for a top draft pick to
|> try and acquire either Montross or Webber. Though they play different styles
|> of center, either of them would fit in well with Seattle. Webber will
|> probably play power forward in the NBA, but in Seattle, with Karl's "small"
|> mentality, he'd be a perfect center. Imagine both Webber and Kemp in the
|> same backcourt. Makes me shiver. Anyway, please post the draft info!
|> 
|> -Brian Harper
|> n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu

There is no point in even thinking about either Webber or Montross as Sonics
since they are both almost certain lottery picks and given the way the Sonics
are playing, they will probably end up one of the last 4 or 5 picks of the 
first round.

Raghu
From: davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Sonics' draft picks
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:32:07 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu
Keywords: Sonics Seattle

In article <1993Jan11.001815.25644@cheshire.oxy.edu> tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.205657.5461@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper) writes:
>
>>Remember the Sonics had the 2nd pick in the 90 draft 
>>(I forget now how they got the lottery pick) 
>
>     Didn't they get that #2 pick by trading Gerald Henderson to New
>York, and the pick ended up being the #2 pick (Gary Payton)?  Ironically,
>the Sonics acquired Henderson by trading a first round draft choice to
>the Celtics for him.  That draft choice turned out to be the #2 pick --
>Len Bias.
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	Alas, the '90 #2 overall pick was earned the hard way - Seattle
stunk and missed the playoffs. Actually, Seattle wasn't that horrid - they
were 41-41, and beat really long odds to end up with the #2 overall pick. 
something like 2 in 52 or some such odds. 

	The Henderson trade to NY was a trade-up deal. This was in the 87
draft I believe, the one that brought Derrick McKey and Olden Polynice
to Seattle. Seattle had the option, after trading Henderson, to swap picks
with the Knicks. The Knicks went lottery-land, and Seattle happily switched
Milwaukee's 17th overall pick (obtained in the Jack Sikma deal) with
New York's 5th overall pick. Seattle then drafted Scottie Pippen with that
5th overall pick. Unfortunately, Seattle wanted Olden Polynice over Pippen,
so Seattle traded Pippen to Chicago for Polynice (taken 8th overall by the 
Bulls.) Actually, Seattle was "protecting" Pippen for Chicago as planned in a
pre-draft deal. It was a deal Seattle perhaps should have reneged on... Seattle
selected Derrick McKey with their own draft pick (#9 overall.)




				David L. Yee
			email to:davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu
From: cs163wav@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Suns file protest in San Antonio loss
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:40:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan12.175000.12377@micom.com>,
jscott@micom.com (James Scott) writes:
>if i heard correctly, bill walton said this weekend that the protest
>had been overruled.  something about not allowing a the outcome of a
>game to be determined by a "technicality."  it is not entirely clear
>whether he was quoting the league office, or himself.

If this is in fact the league's reason for overruling the protest,
it bites.  If you don't want games to be determined by a
technicality, code it into the rules!  ("Procedural technicals shall
not be assessed within the last ten seconds of the game, if the
scores differ by three points or less."  :^)  The rules call for the
technical to be assessed, and it should have been.

I would bet that your latter interpretation is correct, James.  
"The outcome of a game should not be determined by a technicality"
sounds like the kind of aesthetic judgement that Walton would be a
lot more likely to make than David Stern, IMHO.

(Am I correct in my understanding that it is Mr. Stern, and not
Darrell Garretson or some stupid rules committee that makes this
decision?)

(How do you spell Darrell Garretson?)

Tony
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel)
Subject: Re: Frivolous encomium to #34 (was: INSIDE SPORTS poll: best players by position)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:06:30 GMT

In <C0pGnG.316@NeoSoft.com> claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes:

>Seriously, I agree; what *do* people expect of
>Gary Payton?  His game has matured to be about
>everything Seattle can use, from what I read.
>			.
>			.
>			.

Since George Karl became the coach I have started to give up my personal
expectations of any Seattle player. As long as they keep doing what
George wants then I don't really care. I just sit back and enjoy -- OK,
maybe I stand up and cheer... whatever :--)

There isn't, however, any way that you can't help but notice Gary's
improved play.
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From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Re : IN MEMORIAM : Johny Most
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:28:19 GMT
Organization: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine...
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: halcyon.aero.org

In article <2356@hsdndev.UUCP> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:
|
|That was in 1987,you big dink. The network was CBS. Seems like you've
|been drinking too much of something lately. Also,when Chick Heran was
|being inducted into the Hall of Fame,in his acceptance speech he said
|that Johny should have been inducted before him...

I already acknowledged this error in a previous post. Where *did*
you learn how to spell?

|From the attention-seeking-no-knowledge-of-the-game-I-want-to-be-in-every
|-post-on-the-net fuck-up like you,I guess it must be taken as an
|expression of sympathy.

From a no-brain-arrogant-lowlife-never-been-alone-with-a-woman-who-wasnt
made-out-of-plastic snotty-little-shitstain like you, I find it difficult
to take you seriously.

				R.S.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann)
Subject: Re: Paxson sucks (was Re: Phoenix is absolutely scary...)
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Reply-To: koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann)
Organization: Arizona State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:31:05 GMT

In article <C0CKHG.3FE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (I Spike - Therefore I Am) writes:

>that's because basketball is a TEAM game.  teammates work WITH each other
>to win games.  you think the bulls just won two in a row because of jordan
>and only jordan, don't you?  

Yup.  That's because it's true and noone I know would argue it.  What's
the Bulls record in games without Jordan?  Is it even .500?

>>In fact, the
>>Bulls would probably be an average team struggling to make the playoffs
>>without Jordan.
>
>definitely, because jordan is the best player in the world.

So, what are we arguing about?  The rest of the Bulls (minus maybe Pippen)
are a bunch of average players.  End of discussion.  Therefore, claiming
that the Bulls current "slump" is because Paxon is injured (the reason all
this shit got started) is bullshit.  They're not playing up to potential
because they don't have that focus they had in the past and Jordan and
Scotty "I want my own team and my own identity" Pippen are unhappy, for
whatever reason.  Jordan comes around, they win another title.  Jordan
doesn't, it's up for grabs this year (and therefore a good year for the
Suns to be playing well).

It's kindof funny, but that's what got this thread started.  I said it was
a good thing for the Suns to be playing well this season since everyone else
looks a little flat.  Some Bulls fan jump in with "Hey, Paxon's still hurt",
which I replied "who cares, it's Paxon.  There's bigger problems to fix".
Then, everyone jumps all over it.  I guess I'm just amazed that anyone would
think that Paxon is anything special.  He's a spot up shooter that can't
drive and plays below average defense (Jordan/Grant cover his ass there too).

>he does do
>alot for the bulls, but he doesn't do it all, he needs some help, and he gets
>it from his TEAMMATES.  therefore, they win two championships in a row, while
>the suns sit at home and watch.

That's because the Suns didn't have a franchise player ala Jordan - they
do now.  They got as far as they could on "teamwork" (probably the best
team from top to bottom in recent history - their second team would make
the playoffs, 3 bench players are averaging double figures) and it isn't
enough.  It's easier for CHicago.  Hell, the only thing between the Bulls
and the finals is NY.  The Suns have Portland, Seattle, LA, San Antonio,
Utah, etc.  It's a little different out West.
--
Harry Koehnemann			Arizona State University
koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu		Computer Science Department
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: sikorski@oj.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski)
Subject: orl Magic @ mia Heat- 26dec
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: University of Miami, RSMAS
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 23:03:06 GMT

[I'm so tired of being behind, that I'm grabbing just a short
headline and mini-boxscore from the paper. I'll post more
detail later...]

Orlando Magic at Miami Heat, 26 Dec 92

(mia)Edwards and rookie Miner led the Miami Heat to a win over their
in-state rivals, the Orlando Magic, 106-100. (orl)Shaquille O'Neal
and Skiles led their team scoring. The Heat outscored Orlando 29-16
in Q3.  All starters for both teams scored in double-digits.

ORLANDO MAGIC
        fga-m fta-m pts
Scott    6 15  1  1  16,  3-5 3fgs, 2 steals, 4 tos
Tolbert  6  7  4  5  17,  4 tos
O'Neal   6 15  6  9  18, 11rbs, 3 blocks
Anderson 5 16  2  2  13,  4 tos
Skiles   6 10  3  3  17,  8 assists
Kite     1  2  0  0   2
Royal    1  2  4  4   6
Turner   3  6  1  2   7
Kerr     1  1  0  1   2
Green    0  2  2  2   2
        fga-m 3fga-m fta-m tr  a pf s to pts
Totals  35 76   7 16 23 29 48 20 34 3 21 100

MIAMI HEAT
        fga-m fta-m pts
Long     4 13  4  6  12,  3 assists
Rice     5 16  4  4  14
Salley   4  8  5  9  13, 12rbs, 3 assists, 3 blocks
Coles    6 14  2  2  15,  1-5 3fgs, 3 assists, 1 technical
Edwards  6 10 10 10  22,  3 assists
Burton   2  6  3  4   7,  3 tos
Geiger   2  3  0  0   4
Miner    5 11  9 10  19
Shaw     0  1  0  0   0
Askins   0  1  0  0   0
        fga-m 3fga-m fta-m tr  a pf s to pts
Totals  34 83   1  9 37 45 56 16 24 9 10 106

Orlando 26 21 16 37 -100
Miami   24 25 29 28 -106

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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Rich King (was Re: Doug Christie)
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:50:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.231913.3954@muddcs.claremont.edu> byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau) writes:

>As for the big guy, we do have Rich King hopefully soon.
>Supposedly , he is going to be a great big man for the sonics once he is
>able to play again. and considering that Pierce and Eddie are getting up

     Did anybody up in Seattle actually see Rich King play in preseason?
Watching him play limited minutes in the limited games I saw last year,
I was not impressed with him at all.  But he apparently had a great
preseason until he got injured.  Any opinions on whether he indeed is
NBA material or not?  In particular, can he be better than Cage and
Benjamin, who both have some major weaknesses, but some major strengths
too?
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: cs163wav@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: YATR (Yet Another Trade Rumor)
Summary: JJ to Phx for Knight, Ceballos, Mustaf
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:54:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


I'm generally the last guy on the net to encourage this sort of
rumor, but this one comes from reliable enough a source to be worth
reporting:  It seems the Phoenix Suns have stated that they have
been talking with Dallas regarding a possible trade of Negele
Knight, Cedric Ceballos, and Jerrod Mustaf for the rights to Jimmy
Jackson.

Tony
From: cs163wav@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Protesting NBA Games
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:26:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1iuuhvINNbbf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>This is the most boneheaded, childish idea yet.  Let's face it, the refs
>make a hundred bad calls in the course of an NBA game in favor of one team
>or another; one call DOES NOT DETERMINE THE COURSE OF A GAME!

Well, actually, in this case it did.

>If we start
>reversing refs calls on the floor, we open a veritible Pandora's Box.  You'll
>have people protesting 10-second no-calls, every offensive foul will be
>protested by the offending team, etc.

Not so.  The protest system does not allow teams to protest
"judgement calls," such as each of the calls you listed.  What teams
can protest are procedural errors by the referees (such as running
off the court with two seconds left to play, as in the case of the
first successful protest in NBA history).

In the case of the Phoenix-San Antonio game, the referees made a
procedural error.  They handed the ball to a San Antonio player, who
accepted it, beginning the 5-second countdown.  This makes it a
"live ball."  SA had six, and Phx pointed it out.  The referees blew
the whistle, stopped play, and told SA to take a man off the floor.
I.e., *the officials acknowledged the violation*.  However, they did
not correctly enforce the rules regarding the violation.  The rules
state that this violation is a technical foul, but no free throw was
awarded.

Tony
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: *All Star Game 1993*
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:20:45 GMT

In article <OLIVER.93Jan9124724@ballard1.mit.edu>, oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III) writes:
|
|> The East basically has no point guards deserving, while I'm not thrilled
|> about the shooting guards in the West.  RUN-TMC finally makes the All-Star
|> game, albeit from different teams.
|> 

I can't believe you don't think Mark Price deserves being considered as
one of the best point guards overall in the NBA.

					terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU