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From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Changing standards of female beauty (Is: the empowerment of women)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:28:17 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <1993Jan3.070901.29213@rigel.econ.uga.edu> hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:

>  Tee hee.  Come to Georgia if you want to see what "a little
>  powder" looks like.

"A little powder" -- what's left in the compact after we Suthun Bay-ells
                     "freshen up" our look in the Ladies' Room.   :-)

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From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Subject: Re: For a limited time only
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:40:45 GMT

aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:

>In a previous article, jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis) wrote:
>>- a battery powered pepper mill, $29.95.  "I'm sorry supper's going to be
>>  a little bland:  the batteries are dead."

>I couldn't see how this could be worth it until I saw that it had a light
>at the bottom so that the person pressing the button to grind the pepper
>can see the pepper falling toward the plate.  With that little feature, $29.95
>is a bargain.

My all time favorite useless souvenir trinket was a glass ashtray set into
a wooden ship's wheel with a picture of the Pope visible underneath and the 
legend "SOUVENIR OF ASTROWORLD" inscribed around the edge.  A close 
second was a crystal replica of Mt. St. Helens that played _Smoke Gets 
In Your Eyes_ when you wound up its ash plume.



I'm in a wierd mood tonight.
-- 
Brent Capps    (B4) htw-c+(+)g+k+(+)s-e++ | Collars and blindfolds and
bcapps@agora.rain.com (gay stuff)         | bullwhips that sting, these are
bcapps@atlastele.com (telecom stuff)      | a few of my favorite things
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Date: Sat,  9 Jan 93 13:31:06 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <72992@cup.portal.com> <C0JDyq.50A@sdf.lonestar.org>
  <1993Jan9.192154.6157@spdcc.com>

Steve Dyer writes:
>I recall a hot summer afternoon where I relaxed with a sponge bath of
>cool rubbing alcohol, this being Parke Davis' ethanol-based stuff.
>A little later, I was in the midst of things when suddenly my
>partner poked his head up from  my chest and exclaimed "_Bleah!_, you
>taste TERRIBLE!"
>
>Reading the label later told me that the compound was denatured with
>sucrose octaacetate, perhaps the bitterest compounds known which is  
>also completely harmless. 

I bet it taste awful, but I also bet it did NOT make his mouth
feel like he'd been sucking on a lump of alum, the way the
aluminum chlorohydrate in an antiperspirant would.

A bad taste is usually fairly simple to get rid of, but that
astringent puckering sensation from the aluminum compound just
has to wear off in its own time.

 
() Moderate reformers always hate those who go beyond them.
()      -- J.A. Froude
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[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: penis size: an apology
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:44:26 GMT


In article <C0EDzp.J2E@agora.rain.com>, bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:

|> So anyway, even though I just committed the electronic equivalent of dropping 
|> my trousers in the middle of a cocktail party, I feel more than ever a
|> part of this group.

Cause and effect, I say.  I don't think of
someone as a true friend until we've seen
each other naked.

|> Maybe it takes a highly visible mistake like this before you can come to 
|> associate the disembodied voice on the other end of the ether with a highly 
|> fallable human being hunched over a keyboard.  I don't know.

It wasn't really a mistake, it was you talking 
about something that bothered you.  And more
than one person learned something.  I think
that's a *good* thing.

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
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From: 29556883@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (Pain will you return it.. I' say it again Pain.)
Subject: Censored?
Organization: SYSTEMS & COMPUTING
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 23:23:31 PST

right now I am trying to read Soc.motss  but my client package all of a
sudden (after months of loyal service) has decided to not let me read
soc.motss... it still is listed as a personal subscription.. still shows
up on all of my lists.. but it now says that there is over 900,000 NEW
articles when I select headers or read it zilches the colum and it reads
that there are 0 active articles... it just started this nasty habbit
monday morning and is persisting everytime I access usenet..  is there a
error with soc.motss? or has the person that runs the usenet server for
this school decided to play god and censor what I can and cant read? or
what!?  considering I am at a public university and that NWmotss is
still active I dont get what is going on.. will someone emial me and
tell me if I am being sensored by a self ritous computer geek
extrodinare or am I just panicing and everything will return to normal
when I least expect it..  anyways I am not sure that this will even
post.. let me know.. and if you have another server internet address n'
port number send it to me as well so that i can escape the censorship
nazi if that be the case..  Thanks :)
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From: pgr@crhc.uiuc.edu (Paul Ryan)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: US Schools Adding Lessons on Gay Life
Date: 7 Jan 1993 12:07:11 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: copland.crhc.uiuc.edu

Rod Williams writes:
>The article suggests that New York City ran into
>trouble with its similar "Children of the Rainbow" curriculum
>because it failed to include parents in developing the
>curriculum and is trying to introduce it to first-graders,
>rather than older kids (6th/7th graders), like other, more
>successful programs...

Without denying these factors, another major problem is the strangle-hold
the Catholic Church in New York City seems to hold over the public
education system.  Cardinal O'Connor, who runs the Archdiocese of
New York, is an avid foe of the gay community, and has a 
disproportionately strong influence on decisions like these.

Another problem for us in New York City and around the nation has been
the right wing's succesful strategy of focusing on "unimportant" little
local elections, like school boards.  They haven't done anything 
dishonest in this regard, they've just been succesfully in dominating
local decision making in a lot of places.

One further problem is that the specific school board in New York
that caused this particular uproar is almost all-white Catholic,
while the district is quite diverse.  Not surprisingly, a board
devoid of minority voices has failed to appreciate the need for a
"Children of the Rainbow" curriculum.

Paul
-- 
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Center for Reliable High-Performance Computing     Urbana, IL 61801
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign         (217) 244-7179
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Bar etiquette
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:47:53 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris) wrote:
>(here's a new one for some of you) Shoney's

They opened one in the heart of the gay section of Ft. Lauderdale about
two years ago.  Having heard so much, Daivd and I went.  Feh!  I wasn't
just disappointed because of the hype.  Everything was quite inedible.

The same goes for the new Black-Eyed Pea and other chain "home cooking"
restaurants.  I haven't found one that was really worthwhile.  I'll just
settle for the divine (and very gay) Lulu's (with their upstairs completely 
overloaded with tacky Elvis memorabilia) on Washington Avenue in Miami Beach.

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson@ocean.dnet.nasa.gov
"Home is where your roof landed" - t-shirt seen in Miami
"We Will Rebuild (tm)" - majority community response to Andrew
"We Will Redecorate" - gay community response to Andrew
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From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:03:09 GMT

> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:

>I do like patchoulli, but it is difficult to wear when it is 95F and humid.
>For those times, my favorite would be Green Water, which is only available
>in France and at I. Magnin.  Unfortunately, their distributor just died and
>they haven't figured out yet that they need another one, so the only way
>any stores can get it is to go to the manufacturer in France.  I was lucky
>to buy the last bottle I. Magnin in SF had in December.  It is a very light,
>mostly citrus scent.

Along the same lines, and quite yummy, is Hermes' men's
Cologne (the blue bottle, *not* Equipage!).  I'm also partial
to Nina Ricci's Signoricci, and Carven's Vetiver.  For evening,
Bel Ami by Hermes makes one reek seductively of expensive new
saddles.  On Arne's and Jojo's recommendations, I'll have to
look out for Guerlain's Jicky -- though my Beloved has a bottle
of their Eau Imperiale (is that right?) that I find quite
noxious...
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From: sgsying@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Goangshiuan Ying)
Subject: Re: race based fetishes
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 01:06:18 GMT

In article <C0JtBM.91o@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>
>It's funny.
>
>When I went out with Steve, people called me "rice queen" and decided I'd
>be interested in every Asian guy around.
>

Exactly.  

"Rice queen" was the term I used a lot when I came out.  I thought people
who interested in me must have been a 'rice queen'.  I found myself searching
for 'rice queen' at the bars in Chicago, also at the Men's chorus I am singing
with.  I even paid attention to those who had the 'rice queen' look. ( I sound
very desperate, right?  :) )  However, more and more I found this '**** queen'
stuff very insulting.  I found myself categorize people's preference and 
it seemed there was no overlap between categories.  

The idea of someone interests in me just because of I am Oriental turns me off.
Maybe I am just too serious about this, but I really think people should like
me as what I am, not the color of my skin or the shape of my eyes.

But of course, I have learned that people call themselves "**** queen" is 
telling me what their perference are.  I used to call myself "Potato queen"
but now I think I am more open to other 'options'.  :) Maybe a curry queen?

Oh!  Sometimes I would reply those "GWM seeks the same" ad.  But I always
put on something like:

     Oh! Well!  Too Bad!  You miss the chance to meet a great person.. :)

Just my two cents opinion.  :)


Shawn
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:26:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan5.052618.17838
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <72902@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>>Perhaps we could have nominations and take a vote.
>
>Ok. I nominate "none at all."

I thought you used to say: "My men wear leather or they wear nothing at all..."

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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From: norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris)
Subject: Re: long-term relationships...success sto
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:49:34 GMT

kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer) writes:
>
>On 31 Dec 92 08:43:50 GMT, bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) said:
>> When one of us is out of town for business or whatever, the other
>> partner must have the house spic n' span upon his return.
>
>The "clean house" rule probably only
>works if you both travel an equal amount.  I'm gone 15-20 weeks per
>year on business, and my loving hubbie is gone <2 weeks per year.  
>I don't think it would be reasonable for me to ask him to clean
>the apartment the day before I get back from every trip...

Sure it would, if it's clean when you leave.

The problem is when it's messy from the weekend from two kids (like ours
is).  By Friday night when I get home, a week's worth of clutter is layered
on top and the kids are there again.  I'm not complaining, but I'm beginning
to see the need for a part-time maid.  Has anybody got any insight on this?

jeff -who's still trying to recover the house from Christmas.
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Changing standards of female beauty
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:30:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan8.083033.29286
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <27654@sybase.sybase.com> black@lester.sybase.com (Chris Black) writes:
>I know you were just kidding around, but . . .  I hope everyone here
>knows that most moisturizers are death to latex, and should not be
>used with condoms.

yes, I know. But not all sex requires latex to be safe.

                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                  Where do you conceal the gun in a bikini?
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From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: Digital Queers raise $$$ for NGLTF at San Francisco MacWorld
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:18:51 GMT

chavez@quorum.com (R. Martin Chavez) writes:

>    Tim Gill, founder of Quark, has generously agreed to help us get to our
>goal with a challenge grant. He will match all donations dollar for dollar up
>to a total of $25,000 in the next two weeks up until the Inauguration, January
>20, 1993.

    Quark is one way cool company.  They were also mentioned in a Newsweek
article on the boycott last week specifically as having been openly against
the boycott.  Thus far they're the only CO company I'm worried about
boycotting.

    Anyone have further info on why they're so gay-positive?  Not that I'm
complaining at all, mind you!

--
   Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
      "Hate is not a family value.  Boycott Colorado." - Melinda Shore
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Please, Guys, What do those Codes Mean!!!
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:44:10 GMT
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <1993Jan5.053635.24836@netcom.com> 
 solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) "corrects" George Madison:
>>Damn, John.  Did you get bionic ears (a'la Jaime Sommers in _The
>>Bionic Woman_), or what?                   ^^^^^
>
>Oh, poppa Freud! That's *Jamie* Sommers. Of course, if you drop by
>your video outlet, you might find Jaime Sommers in "The Bionic Nellie"...

Before "correcting" others, Andrew, you might check your facts.  No matter
how stupid the spelling looks to you, Jaime Sommers was spelled 'J-a-i-m-e'.

Bionic Woman Fan even before I was a Spelling Queen,
--                    __
Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
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From: gsmith@polyhymnia.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith)
Subject: Re: Gay men personals...
Organization: IWR, University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:17:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.032637.16456@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>
aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:

>"GWM seeks same" is more likely motivated by straighforward physical  
>turnons than any latent antipathy towards blacks. I wouldn't take offense  
>at it, nor would I shy away from anyone who was attracted to *because* of  
>your race. 

No matter what race you belong to, this is a possibility.

My first lover was black, and made no secret of his fascination for
my skin color, and even quizzed me on the genetic mix (half Swedish,
half English) which led to it.  He ended up moving to Sweden.

In Canada I saw a lot of someone who is, alas, still in Canada.  He is
Chinese, but is not attracted to Asian men, only white and (to some
extent) black men.

None of this strikes me as either insulting or especially unusual, _de
gustibus_ and all that.  What I think is funny is that at various
times people have commented on my supposed specialization in younger
men, older men, black men, and Oriental men, depending on the current
version of Mr. Right.  Whatever you do, someone will think it is a
specialty of the house.

-- 
     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/IWR/Ruprecht-Karls University 
               gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de
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From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:27:23 GMT

In article <15430.2b52db6f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> msp@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael S. Pettersen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.184924.6267@psych.toronto.edu>, jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis) writes:
>
>> ...but I respectfully submit that Pride Day means more
>> than just commemorating Stonewall.  A lot has happened between then and
>> now, things with which I identify more closely than Stonewall; these events
>> are worthy of consideration too.
>
>A good point, but that does not mean that Gay Pride Day
>ceases to commemorate Stonewall as well.

I have never, in this article or others, said it did.  I said that Pride
Day is bigger than just Stonewall and have written several times
affirming my belief that Stonewall is a part of Pride Day.

>are there any Gay Pride events at all in Africa or Asia?

I don't have any info at all about Africa.  All pointers would be welcome.

Brian
-- 

Brian A. Jarvis,          Rm. 4026, Sidney Smith Hall, Dept. of Psychology,
jarvis@psych.toronto.edu  University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
System Administrator      M5S 1A1  (416) 978-3948
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From: paul@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Hastings)
Subject: Re: What to do for NEW YEAR'S EVE in Los Angeles?
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:16:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.190055.15697@psych.toronto.edu> jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.181841.22262@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>>In article <72838@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) 
>>writes:
>>
>>>Yes, well... Despite the fact that the crowd (and the
>>>*decorations*!) at the Lone Star were *incredible* on New Bear's
>>>Eve [spelling intentional], I thought they were a wee bit
>>>chintzy.... I mean, every other bar I've ever heard of at least
>>>gives away a glass of cheap champagne at midnight, and the
>>>Gauntlet II here in LA has free drinks -- that's *anything*
>>>behind the bar, not just well liquor -- for 15 minutes after
>>>the New Year begins.
>>
>>Badlands in Toronto wanted CA$4.50 for a glass of champagne.  A Coca-Cola
>>was $2.50.  Even after the exchange rate is taken into consideration   
>>(US$1 ~= CA$1.20), that's ridiculous. 
>
>It is, no question.  I heard that Colby's was giving away champagne at
>midnight. 

Nope.  Or, if they were, I have a bone to pick with my friends that 
tend bar there, cuz *I* sure as hell didn't get any complimentary
bubbly.  Come to think of it, I didn't buy any either.  AAAHH!!  My
first New Year's without champagne!!  And then I spent two hours 
taking care of friends strung out on various letters of the alphabet.
Oh well, so it wasn't the best new year's eve ever.  
-paul


-- 
Aunt Em,                                 I think we better go get some-
     Hate you.  Hate Kansas.             thing to eat before we end up 
     Taking the dog.                     like the Donner party.
                        Dot.                             Buster Bunny.
From: dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: IN THE LIFE
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:43:28 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

Showtime for "In the Life" in Madison, Wisconsin, will be Friday, Jan. 15 at
11 pm, on WHA-TV (Channel 21 broadcast; 11 on TCI Cable).  I don't know
whether it will be shown on the statewide Wisconsin Public Television
network (which does NOT include Milwaukee) which often (usually?) simulcasts 
everything not of local interest.

(WHA is the flagship station of WPT, but which doesn't have absolute 
program control due to station control of the non-Madison stations
being delegated to a communications board--"Tongues Untied" was only
shown in Madison, f'rinstance.)

Thanks to Polly H. for the info.

Dan
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: None (mail relay)
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:59:44 GMT

In article <726654416snx@drummond.demon.co.uk> john@drummond.demon.co.uk writes:
>And now, my question: can anyone e-mail me where I can find a
>program to display JPEG files on a PC :-) ?

Anon FTP to spdcc.com in /pub/progs has several ZIP archives
for viewing JPEG programs.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Musings on Madonna
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:54:42 GMT

In article <16B511053C.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney) writes:
>and I barely
>recognized her. She does not look like the same writhing ragamuffin in the
>"Borderline" video of ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, ten years is ten years.
>But the change she has undergone is very strange, IMHO, and hard to artic-
>ulate. So I'll stop trying.

She's much trimmer (chubby describes her in _Borderline_), hardbodied,
self-confident, and richer 10 years later.  I'd love to try the same
experiment on myself!

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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