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From: v056rcrx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chuck, the Fencing God)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Starting out
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <atten.702557951@groucho.phil.ruu.nl>, atten@phil.ruu.nl (Mark van Atten) writes...
>Luis.E.Scheker@dartmouth.edu (Luis E. Scheker) writes:
> 
> 
>>     A mistake a lot of people make when first learning guitar is to
>>rush into the styles of music they enjoy.  You have to learn how to
>>PLAY the instrument before you can really play the music.  While it may
>>seem boring to you to strum away at songs like "Hey Jude", "Take It
>>Easy", "Sitting on the Dock", and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand", you're
>>actually doing more than just learning easy tunes.  You're developing
>>the basis of a harmonic vocabulary that will carry into your playing
>>for years to come.  My recommendation?  Get yourself a Beatles
>>compendium and strum away.  While several of their songs may seem
>>simplistic, they have also written a lot of harmonically stunning
>>pieces ("Here, There, and Everywhere" and "Yesterday" have even become
>>a part of the jazz repertoire; "In My Life" is a personal favorite). 
>>More than anything, make sure you have the basics down.  Learn your
>>fundamental chords, then work your way through scales and melody
>>playing.  I know so many "Tab players" who can sound exactly like Van
>>Halen or Satriani, but can't improvise or tell you what they're
>>playing.  Start out slowly, making sure you know the names and
>>functions of the chords you play.  Sooner than you would imagine, you
>>can be able to play anything you hear.
> 
>Absolutely right! I learned a lot from just playing chords for hours in time.
>In the beginning, this was sounding very bad, and I had much trouble with
>fretting, getting a clean sound, and finding interesting progressions.
>However, I just kept playing, and playing, and playing...and now I am pretty
>confident about my chordplaying and strumming abilities. There is always room
>for improvement, but I feel I am getting somewhere.
>I also found the BeAtles Complete very helpful: I mean, you see the pictures
>of the real chords (thus learning some exotic ones quickly) and, because almost
>everybody knows most of their songs, you know waht it could sound like.
>So just practice, practice, practice!

Although this isn't how I started out (I began by playing "Go tell aunt
Rody" and "Mary Had a little Lamb"), it makes alot of sense.
What helped ME out ALOT was taking a music theory class in high school.
Most of the guitar players in the class didn't pay much attention, but I
did and I learned ALOT.  Music theory is very piano-keyboard-oriented, but
if you pay attention and learn where the notes are on the keyboard, you
should be alright.
As well, I had a REALLY GOOD teacher for a year or so, and he helped
me to apply the music theory to the fret board.  ALL I DO now is improvise!!
The teacher was a real asshole as a person, but was very good at explaining
things.
                                  Chuck "Music theory is the BEST" Farnsworth
From: Luis.E.Scheker@dartmouth.edu (Luis E. Scheker)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Yamaha Or Ibanez??? Help!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:56:20 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


     I was asking the same question about a year ago.  I was torn
between an Ibanez Jem 77FP (exactly the same as the RG550 except that
it has been cosmetically altered by Steve Vai [it has a monkey grip in
the body, finished floral pattern cloth instead of paint, a vine inlay
in the neck, pink pickups, etc.]) and a Yamaha Pacifica 1221 (the
flagship of that line).  Anyway, I chose the Ibanez because of its
cosmetic appeal.  Both guitars were designed by guitar maven Rich
Lazner (who was stolen away from Ibanez by Yamaha), and thus are pretty
much the same in terms of sound versatility, construction, and overall
design.  Each has the neck humbucker, middle single-coil, and bridge
humbucker pickup arrangement, the five-position pickup selector, volume
and tone pots, radius-type neck, and Floyd-Rose tremolo.  The only
difference between the 1221 and the 550 is that the 1221 has
through-body neck construction, while the 550 has a bolt-on neck.  I've
assumed, however, that you were indeed looking at the 1221.  The other
models of Pacifica are equally well-crafted and sound very good.  It
all boils down to your personal preference (be it cosmetic, aural, or
financial).  Either way you go, you can't go wrong. 
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From: julius@cco.caltech.edu (julius yang)
Subject: Re: Crazy Riff.
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:59:50 GMT

lonewolf@ecst.csuchico.edu (William Jospeh Bestor) writes:

>Here's a riff from Crazy Train:

>E|-|
>B|-|
>G|-| 
>D|-|
>A|-------4---4-0-----4-0-----4-0-|
>E|-0-2-2---2-----4-0-----4-0-----|

Try this--I think each note is a quarter note, so there must be 16 to keep
time.

 A|-------4---5---4-2---0-2-0---0--|
 E|-0-2-2---2---2-----4-------4---4| repeat

After the riff stops, the chords do A E D (verse), then possibly
F# E A B A for the chorus.  That last I'm really unsure about.
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From: liebman@xrxedds.UUCP (Chris Liebman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: How do I date a Fender Twin?
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:44:59 GMT
Organization: EDDS, Xerox Corporation, Herndon Va.


Hi All,
   I just aquired a used Fender Twin.  I believe that is a '73 or a
'74.  What can I look for to date it?  BTW, this amp sounds
*wonderful*.  I had been playing thru a Crate G20 Chorus and like this
*much* better. 

				-- Chris

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From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: One last Question about Chords, SCales, Modes, Inetervals,..
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:53:52 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
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In article <7APR199210055572@rosie.uh.edu> st1hz@rosie.uh.edu (Meyers, David C.) writes:
>First Off, thanks to all who have sent me mail and posted responses about
>chords, scales, etc... I'm starting to learn all about intervals, modes, etc.
> I have one more question regarding chords. I know what A/C# looks like and
>I can figure out why it is called that, what I was wondering is how you
>"say" that chord.

this chord?:   -----
               --2--
               --2--
               --2--
               --4--
               -----

i call it: "A with C# in bass" :)
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From: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Rockman problems; Zoom comparison? (was Re: distortion boxes?)
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:00:24 GMT
Reply-To: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

David J. MacKenzie <djm@eng.umd.edu> <djm@ai.mit.edu> writes:

>My main complaint with the 9002 is the battery life. 

I get up to 3 hours life out of mine. The manual says the battery last 3 hours and you need to recharge for about 5-6 hours to get a full charge.

>Also, forget about using the Zoom as a Rockman, i.e. just plugging in
>a pair of headphones.  The builtin amplifier is way too weak to get a
>decent level.

I think yours must be defective. Mine is loud enought to alter the permanent ring in my ears -:) This thing puts a rockman to shame, the rockman isn't even in the same category of toy. I use mine to spend 1/2 hour at lunch practicing my Paul Gilbert speed licks....


dave
From: v562f9vy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Top 50 Guitar Albums Poll
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am going to put together a list of the top 50 guitar albums of
all time, and I need your input.  I want to know exactly what 50
albums you would say had the most impact on the style of music 
that you play.  If you think 50 is too much, I will take a list
of any size, but please do not exceed 50.  I will publish the
results after I receive a reasonable amount of entries (50
or so).  Thanks in advance for your co-operation.



                                  Wolverine

P.S.  my e-mail is <v562f9vy@ubvms.bitnet>
Please mail to me instead of posting.  You may do both, but please
send me a copy.
From: avedian@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jonathan R Avedian)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Acoustic guitar pickups (was Re: Hondo II?)
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:03:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I have been using a DeArmond 260 soundhole pickup with my Ibanez 6 string
acoustic for about 4 months.  It is a humbucker with a piezo pickup that
is connected to the clip.  It produces a great sound - very clean and
sounds acoustic.  I tried a Dean Markley, but like the DeArmond better.

It is beautiful thru an old Fender Princeton with reverb.  Doesn't sound
bad distorted either.  My instructor, a professional palyer for almost 
10 years, says it is the best one he has heard.

If you can, try one out.  I love mine.  I paid $60 for it.

Jonathan Avedian
avedian@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: css1rs@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: High, Action?
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:15:53 GMT
Reply-To: css1rs@mcs.surrey.ac.uk
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England

What does high action mean? I know this a very basic question but I don't
know what it means.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: dv@oahu.linus.mitre.org (Dimitri Vorona)
Subject: Re: Music Theory
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: alt.guitar
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:16:41 GMT


Your best bet for a nice overview of different things is a book called
the Heavy Metal Guitar Bible,  I don't remember the author
specifically (but if your interested I will find out), but this book
covers everything from Penatonic Blues, Minor, Major Scales, to
Technique, and Chords.  It will show you how to get your relative
Minors, and how to tie in various scales to your playing...  The book
covers alot of good things, but better yet... it ties them together.

If your interested in just starting from the very basics you could
always go through the every so popular Mel Bay Set.  or you could work
with The Carcassy Method to practice some classical finger picking
styles.

I think the Heavy Metal Guitar Bible would probably suite you best
though.


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From: 10695400@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (CRAIG LAWTON)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: tab req: Bad to the Bone
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:18:43 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

does anyone know the tab to Bad to the bone by George Thorogood. Please post 
it if you have it because I am sure others would like it too.
Craig.
From: buffa@delos.inria.fr (Michel Buffa)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Ultra harmonix big muff
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:46:32 GMT
Reply-To: buffa@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: Inria Sofia Antipolis

In article <1992Apr9.195637.771@news.Hawaii.Edu>, davidp@pulua.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (David Park) writes:
|> 
|>  I'm looking to buy a ultra harmonix big muff..if any one has one to sell mail me davidp@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu. Thanks. If any knows where i can get the schematics for it, mail me.... Thanks alot..

WAOUW a Big Muff fan !!!! You're right my friend, this pedal is one of the
best fuzz/disto I ever tried. I'll never sell mine. Here is my pedal
configuration, with it I can do all the noise I want in all the 60-80's style:

     guitar -> boss super overdrive -> bigmuff -> cry baby -> ampli

With everything off, I just play my guitar for gentle songs
With overdrive on I play the blues
With overdrive + bigmuff I play the stooges, hendrix,...
With overdrive + bigmuff + crybaby (fuzz enabled of course) I play hendrix
     under acid, the stooges under acid....

Of course, it would be much better if I had a marshall at the end of the
chain...(it's coming soon !!!)

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From: rblander@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: Fender "Elite" Strat?
Summary: details
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:56:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.151600.15083@ryn.mro4.dec.com> rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost) writes:
>
>The Elites came out around 1984, were available for about a year just before
>CBS sold Fender.
>
>There were four models, the Strat, the Tele, P-bass Elite I (single pickup) and
>P-Bass II (twin pickups).  The basses were active, the guitars were passive. 
>These are the instruments that first featured stuff like TBX tone controls,
>bi-flex truss rod, etc. now found on models like the Strat Plus.
>
>The Strat Elite had a non-locking trem, three push-buttons instead of a 5-way
>switch, three special pickups (no visible pole pieces).  Three knobs, ribbed
>with rubber for better grip.  Maple or rosewood board, a number of truly
>bizarre finishes including some two-tone metallic colors.
>
>The P-Basses were active, had fine tuner bridges, Schaller tuners, rosewood or
>maple boards, fretted or fretless, one or two pickups.
>
>The Tele looked more like the Schecter Pete Townshend Tele than a Fender...no
>pickguard, two pickups, four knob control layout (like a Les Paul).
>
>All models were avialble with chrome hardware and a standard case or gold
>hardware and a flight case.

	Just to add a few details to Brian's posting, taken from the
1983 Fender catalog I have on my desk at the moment...

Neck: biflex truss rod, hex key tension adjust at headstock, hex key
      neck tilt adjust, "lokset" nut (looks ordinary to me -- nonlocking)
      jumbo frets, 12" fingerboard radius, maple or rosewood fingerboard,
      except on Walnut Elite Strat, which has ebony.  Nut width 1.7" (slightly
      wider than standard Strat width).

Pickups/Electronics: active preamp, Alnico II magnets, noise cancelling
      design with single coil sound. Master volume, MDX midrange boost control,
      TBX master tone control.  3 push/push pickup selector buttons.

Hardware: Freeflyte whammy, with spring tension adjustable from the top.
      Rubber insert on knobs for grip.  Schaller locking strap buttons.
      Edge-mounted jack (like a Les Paul) instead of angled top jack.

Three trim levels:
      Elite: chrome hardware, standard case
      Gold Elite: gold plated hardware, heavy duty flight case
      Walnut Elite: body and neck in solid black walnut. Ebony fingerboard.
                    gold plated hardware. Heavy duty flight case.



-----
Robyn
rblanders@watmath.waterloo.edu
	"I'm just doing my rock'n'roll duty." -- Dubois
From: frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Diminished scales (was Those F***ing scales)
Summary: this is a dim scale
Keywords: diminished scales
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:53:39 GMT


A diminished scale is a succession of whole steps and half steps. 
Start with a root, a whole step, half step, whole step, half step,
 whole step, half step, whole step, half step, and you're back to
the root again.  If you take the root and add every other note you have
a diminished chord.  Another way to visualize the chord is to lower
every tone (except the root) of a dominant 7th chord (i.e. C7, not Cmaj7)
by 1 half step.


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From: littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: CANDY AND THE BITCH
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:53:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr9.165351.19524
Reply-To: littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University


>Jeez!  This guy's got one hell of an attitude.

         	Dat's ME!

>
>Listen, if the guy wants to name his guitar,
>he obviously involves some emotion in his playing.
>
>I think you need to take some of this anger you have
>and write a song about it instead of ramming it down
>someone else's throat.  And while your at it, you might
>want to name YOUR guitar.

	"George the One-Horned Strat" song rambled off top of head
         G                      C
         George the one who got one horn
         G                      D
         George the one who got one
         G                      C
         George the one who got the horn
         C    C  D    D  E  D   C
         when he wake up in the morn
                         E-E-Eb-D(notes)                  D-D-Db-C
         Without Lucille                  Without Lucille
                         G-G
         Without Lucille


         (second verse)

         Lucille be George's fine case
         Lucille be George's case
         Lucille got George's velvet case
         George like to go in this place

         Hello Lucille. . . (etc)

         	Public domain. Add verses, reaarange as you want, post
         mods too. This was off the top of my head, so it's probably
         rough.
>
>---
>Brad Steele
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se (Brad Steele)
Subject: Re: looking for the M*A*S*H theme
Reply-To: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:20:31 GMT

In article 22176@wam.umd.edu, rade@next07pg2.wam.umd.edu (Robert Evans) writes:
>i was watching mash the other day and i heard some guitar in the back  
>ground i was wondering if anyone had the tab for it. thanks
>

	I used to have the tab.  I will look and see if I can find it.
	In the meantime, the theme was originally in the movie,
 MASH.  It was called "Suicide is Painless", by Johnny Mandel.  You
 might be able to find it in a music shop under that name.  Or you might
 be able to get it ordered.  I will continue to look and see if I can find it.

---
Brad Steele
From: erwin@bend.ucsd.edu (Sean Erwin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Wanted:  Sweet Child O' Mine
Date: 8 Apr 1992 06:19:18 GMT
Organization: Linguistics Department, UCSD
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bend.ucsd.edu

Well, haven't seen this yet, so here's a request for it... 

Here's what I think is wrong, but something close:..

E----------------------------------15-------12-----------

B----------15--12----------------------------------------

G----12----------------14--------------14---------14-----

Forgive my first attempt at tab....   And I *know* this is wrong, so *don't*
save in in your tab library....  I just want someone to do it *right*....
 
-- 
Ya down wit PDP?  (Yeah you know me...)
From: larrigan@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (John Larrigan)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: TAB request:Black Crows, She talks to Angles.
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:16:56 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


Could anybody tell me the Tab for the Black Crows song "She Talks to Angles"
or direct me to a pulication which has it.

Many Thanks in advance
John L.
From: alain@concour.cs.concordia.ca (SARRAF)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: A question of Amps: Roland vs. Something Else
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:57:06 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

In article <CHRISB.92Apr13094650@lynx.ps.uci.edu> chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus) writes:
>
>I have been in the market for a new amp for awhile.  After some wavering,
>I think I am going to settle on a Roland JC-120, but I would like to hear
>any reports on them good or bad.  What is a good price new?  Used?  What
>should I look for when buying them used? etc.
>
Well, I know that the general opinion is that JC-120s are good amps so
please don't flame me for what I am about to say since this is just my
opinion. I had a JC120 for about 5 years. It was my main amp and I really
liked it at first for several reasons:
-1 it was fairly light for a 2X12
-2 The chorus was very good
-3 The clean sound could be cranked quite loud before breaking up.

However, my general opinon of these amps is that they suck big time. 
The sound is very clean but also very sterile. I got tired
of the only decent sound it had pretty fast. The chorus is good
but its a very dated sound and to tell you the truth I like the
sound of my DOD pedal better (Even though I hate that mid-80s chorus
sound). I won't even mention the "Distortion" except to say that
it sounds  about as far from a warm tube distortion as you
can possibly get. As far as price goes, they are a total ripoff
. You can get an excellent channel-switching Fender or Marshall
for the same price and still have quite a bit o 'money left over.


 To summarize: This amp is very mediocre and if you're
looking for a warm sound, its absolutely terrible. Furthermore,
it lacks many desirable features which more modern solid state amps 
have. (That is of course if you insist on going solid-state).

	I bought an old Fender Super Reverb, and have never looked
back. These two amps cannot even be compared as far as both sound quality
and manufacturing quality.  Look into old silverface Fenders, you
can find them just about anywhere, and they are really a bargain.Beware
of the master volume models though, they don't have the same tone as
the non-master volume ones. 


Alain


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From: marc@cs.caltech.edu (Marc I. Pomerantz)
Subject: Fender Amp
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:37:30 GMT


Does anyone have any info about those new Fender reissue amps?

Specifically, I am looking at the '63 reissue Vibroverb amp.  If
anyone has one or has played through one let me know what you think,
and what a fair price on a new one might be.

thanks
From: mcnab@dinsdale.nas.nasa.gov (David McNab)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar - What to look for?
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:51:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: nas.1992Apr16.215129.7451
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center

In article <1992Apr16.214901.7301@nas.nasa.gov>, mcnab@dinsdale.nas.nasa.gov (David McNab) writes:
|> The nicest acoustic guitar I've played recently for
|> under $1000 was a Taylor -- I don't remember which
|> model number, but I felt and sounded beautiful.
                     ^
                     +----  oops.  Well, I'm sure I did :-), but I meant "it"
                            felt and sounded beautiful.

                    David
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