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From: grd@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (garry.r.daly)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: 18th Annual Bowling Tournament
Keywords: Bowling Tournament
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:19:41 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: AT&T


            AT&T - 18TH ANNUAL BOWLING TOURNAMENT - 1993
            --------------------------------------------

         The 18th Annual AT&T Bowling Tournament is HERE
               register in January play in February!

The tournament is open to all AT&T employees.  Bowlers! who are not AT&T
employees may participate in the tournament under certain conditions.
For more information contact someone on the committee or a location
representatives.

We hope you will be able to join us.  Your participation in this years
tournament will help make it an enjoyable and successful event.

OPEN registration is January 15 to February 1.  Register earlier,
so we have a better chance of giving you the date and time you wish.
The tournament will be held at Lisle Lanes on Route 53 in Lisle Il.
The tournament dates and times are:

   TEAMS           Saturday   February 13,  1:00 PM
                   Sunday     February 14,  1:00 PM
                   Saturday   February 27,  1:00 PM
                   Saturday   February 27,  5:30 PM

DOUBLES & SINGLES  Saturday   February 13,  1:00 PM
                   Sunday     February 14,  1:00 PM
                   Saturday   February 27,  1:00 PM
                   Saturday   February 27,  5:30 PM

For applications or information you may contact any of the following:

                      TOURNAMENT COMMITTEE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Person          Title           Phone           UNIX Mail       Loc

Jim Canada      President       979-4066        ho1focus!canada IH  6D-332
Bob Eberle      Vice-Pres       979-3294                        IH  2H-235
Garry Daly      Secretary       224-7184        ihlpl!grd       NSC 32A22
Lyle Pottebaum  Treasurer       979-7552        ihlpf!potte     IHC 1H-109

                      LOCATION REPRESENTATIVES
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

COMPUTER SYSTEMS CENTER     Dan Erhart         CU  K29       810-6048
CORPORATE LAKES II          John Piechocki     2Z  CLF06     224-7864
HICKORY RIDGE               Laurie McKee       LT  K7304     971-5014
MONTGOMERY                  Jim Jasien         MG  EXEC      859-4550
NETWORK SOFTWARE CENTER     Garry Daly         NSC 32A22     224-7184
WESTWOOD                    Kevin True         LP  4E3B      955-4374

INDIAN HILL                 Jim Canada         IH  6D-332    979-4066
INDIAN HILL COURT           Lyle Pottebaum     IHC 1H-109    979-7552        
INDIAN HILL SOUTH           Max Hartwig        IX  1W-227    979-8232
INDIAN HILL PARK            Sheila Gut         IHP 2A-415    979-1253
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************
*** NOTE ***    All phone numbers are in the 708 area code
************
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:33:34 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Systems Development Corporation

In article <1993Jan22.181658.15265@tellab5.tellabs.com> chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) writes:
>The Aurora Public Library (Benton St.) has a good collection of
>books on the history of the CA&E, and other local history -- 
>and offers reciprocal borrowing privileges to most library card holders.

Also, you can visit the Fox River Trolley Museum which runs
along 1.5 miles of the CA&E right of way along the Fox River in
South Elgin.  The museum owns some of the original rolling stock
of the CA&E.  It's a good place to visit if you want to learn
more about the railroad.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'Krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: *** SEEKING VHS COPIES OF INAUGURAL EVENTS ***
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:50:41 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <1993Jan21.160712.11326@gagme.chi.il.us>, wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill
Pfeiffer) writes:
>Dear Netters:
>
>I am seeking copies of any and all of innagurial night celebrations.
>
>I set my vcr to record and it failed to do so (damned VCR plus got knocked
>over by my cats :-(.)
>
>If anyone taped any of it, or all of it (especially, but not limited
>to,  the ones where Bill played sax) I would be very grateful for VHS
>copies.  

I'd reccomend keeping an eye peeled to The Comedy Channel, they did a good
taping of the ceremonies, and most likely will be re-broadcasting their
coverage.  (It was VERY good.  I particularly liked how when Billy Graham gave
a prayer, the used the "Live Fast Forward", so we didn't have to go through his
lengthy speech...  The man should be shot anyways!)

<><><><><><>
Krikket                      ---  krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us
anon-1214@twwells.com        ---  an294@anon.penet.fi
#include<std.disclaimers>    ---  #include<sig.virus>

Just another commentary on the sad state of affairs in our world today.
From: duve@ellis.uchicago.edu (michael andrew duvernois)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: PATRONIZE Camille Paglia !
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:08:51 GMT
Reply-To: duve@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: chi
Organization: University of Chicago

Let's see, first of all Paglia is an academic writer and speaker who has
recently received some notice in the general public (60 Minutes piece, NYT
review, etc.).  She's hardly a performance artist in the sense of Galas,
Ackers, or Sloan.  Also, she's bisexual, not a lesbian.  As for the content
of your post, the subject has long since been beaten to death in rec.arts.
books among other places.  While hardly an orthodox feminist, her positions
are certainly not coming from the anti-woman fascist side (the Republicans?)
but rather from an individual point of view.  I certainly don't agree with
many of the points about sexuality and identity that she raises, but
her ideas merit serious debate, not diatribes. 

Note: She never denies the existence of date rape, but merely posits that
orthodox feminism has twisted date rape into an all-encompassing crime of
men.  Almost any heterosexual act could be, according to Paglia, interpreted
as date rape in certain quarters.

Take a look also at Wollenstonecraft's "Vindication of the Rights of Women"
in the context of William Godwin's writings.  Makes for a good comparison.

Mike

Michael A. DuVernois                         m-duvernois@uchicago.edu
Laboratory for Astrophysics and Space Research, University of Chicago

Have you ever wondered, just where does Wonder Bread come from?  
Well, there's a place near Amarillo (that's where the government has 
atomic bombs assembled you know) called Dead Dog Crossing.  No one 
lives there anymore, the last person of any note who passed through 
was Mr. Jack Kerouac, and in fact he didn't like it much.  The only 
signs of movement are large tumbleweeds casually blowing down what 
once was Main Street.  Well, Wonder Bread doesn't come from Dead 
Dog Crossing, at least, not since Johnson was president, skirts were 
short, and summers were long and hot.  Definately not since then.
From: mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:56:16 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: HAM Radio Station N9EUZ, Naperville, IL

In article <1993Jan20.232531.14337@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.204406.17895@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan19.144722.9799@sdc.com> kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:
... stuff deleted ...
>> 
>> Come to think of it, it was an electric railroad, so there were already
>> power lines there...
>
>Not necessarily true!  I do not have my collection of slides from the
>days of the CA&E here in my office to check on this, but it is quite
>possible that third rail power supply was used (as is done today on
>the CTA).  Even if there was overhead wire, though, the voltage on
>that would have been in the 200-600vac range, not in the multi-kilovolt
>range.
>
It was a third-rail system that ran parallel to the Chicago Great
Western railroad. I grew up two blocks from it and, being a railroad
enthusiast, hunted for and found an old section of CA&E track behind
what used to be Sun Electric Corporation at Madison and 31st in
Bellwood. This was in the mid 70's... It's all gone now...
- Mike
From: milr@quads.uchicago.edu (mark ryan miller)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Buddhism in Chicago
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:44:33 GMT
Reply-To: milr@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

Hello.  Does anyone know of any Theravada (Thai, Sri Lankan, etc)
Buddhist study/meditation groups in Chicago???  I've been studying
informally but want to start with a group/mentor.  I'm especially
interested in the above tradition, but being able to have a
long time Buddhist as mentor is more important.

Thanks for any info.

--Mark
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: JK6@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU
Subject: colonel john & the blues sqaudron
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:46:26 GMT

      2 Colonel John & the Blues Squadron coming...
 
 
          Saturday January 23, 1993
          Aftershock, 312-202-9209
          5405 W Addison, Chicago
          10PM - 2PM
          $4 cover
 
          Thurs Jan 28, 1993
          Clearwater Saloon, 312-549-5599
          3937 N Lincoln, Chicago
          9:30PM - 1:00AM
          $2 cover
 
hope to see you there ...
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: PATRONIZE Camille Paglia !
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:21:34 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Institute for the Earning Sciences

chaput@ils.nwu.edu (Cliff Chaput) wrote:
:Boycott Paglia?  You know how much she PAYS those projectionists?  Just
:because she refuses to knuckle under to a bunch of unionized, overpaid...
:
:...oops.  Wrong boycott.  (And wrong side, too!)
: 

Touche.

Although when you think about it, she's probably very hard to lick.

A.

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: rjz@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (robert.john.zurawski)
Subject: Lawyer Recommendation
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:50:51 GMT
Keywords: lawyer recommendation

I am looking for recommendations for a lawyer to handle some
family stuff like property sales and a will.

Thanks in advance,

Bob Zurawski
att!iexist!rjz
708-713-5265
From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Summary: Obligations.
Date: 20 Jan 93 21:40:17 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan19.144722.9799@sdc.com>, kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) 
quotes me:
> >Why?  The risk from the car is one of their own choosing, each and
> >every time they get behind the wheel.
 
> To live and work in DuPage County requires a car.  Why is it that
> people choose to live and work in DuPage County, but choose not to
> live near high tension wires, especially since the risk associated with
> automobile travel is much more significant than that from high tension
> wires?

Several reasons: (1) The danger from automobile travel is immediate,
well-understood, and to some extent under the control of the driver;
(2) High-tension wires are an eyesore--apparently more so than cars
and roads; (3) The dangers from high-tension wires are scary, i.e.,
subtle, long-term, and catastrophic health problems which may not
even exist so are difficult to calculate a cost-benefit matrix for,
especially if you're not an entirely rational being.
 
> >The dangers from high-tension
> >wires, which indeed may not exist, become completely unavoidable
> >for what--20 years?  50 years?  100?--when the lines are built.

> Since no one is ever forced to live near high tension wires, they are
> indeed completely avoidable.  Granted it may not be fair to erect high
> tension wires after a neighborhood has been established, but on the other
> hand it wasn't any secret that the Prarie Path was a ComEd right of way
> (acquired solely for the purpose for which ComEd now wants to use it)
> if anyone had cared to look.  Caveat Emptor.

I don't think anybody questions ComEd's *legal right* to build the
lines.  It's a question of their responsibilities as a fellow citizen
to those they serve, those they live near, and the land they own.
You obviously feel that they have none outside of their formal
contracts and applicable statutes, and ComEd probably agrees with
you.  So those opposed to the lines have the choice of (a) teaching
ComEd ethics, or (b) organizing to change the laws.  I think they're
opting for (b), but then, I don't live in DuPage.

               *** ***
Ken Perlow   ***** *****
20 Jan 93   ****** ******   1 Pluviose An CCI
            *****   *****   gadfly@ihspc.att.com
             ** ** ** **
...L'AUDACE!   *** ***   TOUJOURS DE L'AUDACE!  ENCORE DE L'AUDACE!
From: barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Boycott Camille Paglia !
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:17:09 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

<U53644@uicvm.uic.edu> wrote:
:For those who don't already know..................
:
:Camille Paglia is a local performance artist, and claims to be a feminist.
:She has also defended the practice of date rape. Her argument is that a big
:part of the thrill of sex is the danger, and that women who have complained
:after being raped by the men they dated should have a more mature attitude
:about the whole thing (and not pursue the complaint).
:
:I should also point out that Camille Paglia is a lesbian, and is in no personal
:danger if such an attitude were to become widespread. She wouldn't date a man,

*Bi* the way, you aren't quite correct calling her a lesbian.

A.
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:26:41 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Systems Development Corporation

In article <1993Jan20.232531.14337@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt) writes:
>Even if there was overhead wire, though, the voltage on
>that would have been in the 200-600vac range, not in the multi-kilovolt
>range.

It was 600 volts DC.  The nice thing about DC over AC is that it
doesn't generate any EMF.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:59:43 CST
From: Tina <U58655@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.general,uic.general
Subject: Social service postion available!

A Social service organization located in Oak Lawn is looking for a
motivated individual to work with Developmentally Disabled adults in a
day program/pre-workshop setting. The title of the position is Instructor
and the job responsibilities are the following:

Providing basic care
Planning daily activities for clients
Teaching daily living skills (domestic, self care, communication)
Responsibility of a caseload of approximately 10 adults
Completion of paperwork per DMH regulations
Attendance of in-services and training seminars relevant to the job
Participation in the planning of goals and objectives for individual clients

We require a B.A or B.S. in a human service or related field. Experience is
nice, but not necessary. The salary range is $14,000 - $17,000 depending
upon experience.  New grads are encouraged to apply.

Please respond to me via e-mail or send your resumes with cover letter to:

Park Lawn School and Activity Center
10833 South La Porte
Oak Lawn, Illinois 60453
ATTN: Tina Clancy

     or


Christina Matyskela
U58655@uicvm.uic.edu
U58655@UICVM
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski)
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:16:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.232531.14337@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt) writes:
>  I do not have my collection of slides from the
> days of the CA&E here in my office to check on this, but it is quite
> possible that third rail power supply was used (as is done today on
> the CTA).  Even if there was overhead wire, though, the voltage on
> that would have been in the 200-600vac range, not in the multi-kilovolt
> range.

The CA&E Railroad did use third-rail power on most of its private
right-of-way, but the trains were also designed to operate on power
from overhead trolley lines.  At the outer reaches of places like
Aurora, the trains were broken up into single-car units and operated
as streetcars -- one of the reasons why they were so slow.

In the early days of the CA&E (operation began in 1902) the Railroad
generated its own power, but by the 1920s it began buying power from
Com Ed and, by 1930, closed down its generating facility (in Batavia).

Part of the deal between the CA&E and Com Ed included easements on
the railroad's right of way; thus, overhead wires can be found on
some old pictures of the right-of-way, but not all.

Finally, I might note that the Geneva branch is somewhat different
from the rest, in that operation there ceased in 1937 while the
rest of the system continued to operate until 1957 (it was formally
abandoned in 1961, at which time the rails were sold for scrap).

Thus Com Ed purchased the Geneva Branch right-of-way outright, but
the remainder became owned by public agencies.  Of course, Com Ed
retained the easements after the bankruptcy court disposed of the
CA&E's assets...

The Aurora Public Library (Benton St.) has a good collection of
books on the history of the CA&E, and other local history -- 
and offers reciprocal borrowing privileges to most library card holders.

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: mike@spss.com (mike cornwall)
Subject: Streetwise newspaper
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:10:58 GMT

If you've been in the city recently you can't help but notice vendors
selling Streetwise, a newspaper published to help the homeless. I seem
to recall reading an article on Streetwise saying that out of the dollar
purchase price 25 cents goes to the publisher and 75 cents goes to the
vendor, a homeless person. That's fine and dandy, but I continualy see
"homeless" vendors with $200 gym shoes and leather coats - what gives?

--
Mike Cornwall
mike@spss.com
Newsgroups: chi.test
From: awl1@quads.uchicago.edu (alpha wei-min lo)
Subject: kibbutz
Reply-To: awl1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:27:53 GMT

so if this is a test then what is a bana peel?
From: batk@quads.uchicago.edu (joe batka)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: TTFN
Keywords: oops
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:55:45 GMT
Reply-To: batk@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: chi.test
Distribution: chi
Organization: University of Chicago

Hello world

Have a better one

Joe WaveMaker
Newsgroups: chi.test
From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Subject: OK?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:35:37 GMT

Just testing.
From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: clout rebooted
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:38:54 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX


	
	Clout was done again with the infamous "can't open /dev/zero".
	I rebooted it and it is up again.
-- 
	I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds!
	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
Randy Suess					 randy@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.misc,chi.mail,chi.general
From: res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt)
Subject: Re: *** Chicago Casinos " VOTE " ***
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:33:12 GMT
Followup-To: .

In article <9301222147@drktowr.chi.il.us>, magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
> Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
> : Take a look around Atlantic City, three blocks away from the Casinos.
> Take a look around Chicago, 1 block from the stadium.  The stadium didn't
> make the neighborhood.  The casinos won't change the neighborhood either.

If you really believe that, I have this bridge out in Brooklyn that I
can sell to you, real cheap.

					Rich Strebendt
					...!att!ihlpb!res
					r.strebendt@att.com
From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Looking for Stanford '90 and Yale '90
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:40:59 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: schin@acs.bu.edu

HEllo

I am looking for two friends of mine. One of which graduated from Stanford
the other graduated in Yale, in 1990. The alumni org has been no help.If you
attended each school around this time, would you kindly e-mail me?

REgards
Neil Schier
From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Re: clout closed
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:32:45 GMT
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois

In article <30eTXB3w165w@eternal.chi.il.us> jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:
>     I'm SIMM-less... Running on 2mb 100ns Drams here. How much memory
>does Clout actually have? 8 megs, I'd figure, but what sayeth the experts?

Yes, Clout currently has 8 MB.

-greg

-- 
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: chi.misc,chi.mail,chi.general
Subject: Re: *** Chicago Casinos " VOTE " ***
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:20:13 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL

In article <9301222147@drktowr.chi.il.us> magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
>Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
>: In article <1993Jan06.110247.3112@uumeme.chi.il.us> sfoley@uumeme.chi.il.us (Sean M. Foley) writes:
>: >  There can be no doubt here; Obviously, casinos would bring Chicago a large
>: >amount of needed revenue, and that can only be positive to the community in
>: >general.. 
>
>: Your initial assumption is false.  70-80% of the gambling would be done
>: by Chicago residents.  That's a net outflow of money to out-of-state
>: casino owners, especially when you include the fact that money spent 
>: on gambling is not going to be spent on local businesses.
>
>It's not false.  The net outflow of profit goes out of state, but not
>the tax revenue.  At any rate, a gambler is going to spend his money
>on gambling and not on local business.  The only difference is the
>money will go to the casino owners instead of a bookie.

And the bookie will spend his earnings in Chicago, and the casino owners
will spend them elsewhere.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
 __       There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
 \/                   followed by the words "Daddy!  Yay!"
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Re: clout closed
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:47:37 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:

> >The cc-tip>clout ... [Connection ... close by foreign host]
> >happens when clout crashes (I guess due to memory problems?)
> 
> Speaking of memory problems.  We want to add 4 MB more to Clout.
> I'm donating 2 spare SIMMs, and if we can get someone to donate
> 2 more, we'll install them.  Anyone?
     I'm SIMM-less... Running on 2mb 100ns Drams here. How much memory
does Clout actually have? 8 megs, I'd figure, but what sayeth the experts?

                              --Jeff

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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