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From: jdavis@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Jim Davis)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: DHL Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:02:14 GMT

In article <15967@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.235518.24589@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
>|Last week I had the cops bust a woman for smoking in a non-smoking area
>|and because I was watching for it, I noticed one of them had his
>|flashlight out even though it was not dark. He was clearly prepared to
>|smash her head in with the MAG-LITE if she made any trouble. But the
>|average bystander won't say anything about a flashlight that is not
>|used, unlike a PK-24 tonfa.
>|
>|It was quite a show of force, the PD sent 3 cops to arrest a smoker...
>|Well, at least 911 works in my hometown as long as there isn't
>|anything else going on.
>
>Let me get this straight.  You called 911 because a woman was smoking in
>a non-smoking area?  Un-fucking-believable.
>
Just as unbelievable they responded!  Wonder what city it was.  If it was
where I live I sure wanna know about it.
>+==========================================================================+
>| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
>| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
>+==========================================================================+


Newsgroups: ba.general
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: flourescent light bulbs, same size and shape as regular bulbs
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:39:14 GMT


I am looking for flourescent light bulbs the same size and shape as
regular incandescent bulbs. Do such things exist? Where do they sell
some in the East Bay? (my lamps and things can only fit regular ones)
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: alin@grimm.Tymnet.COM (Albert Lin)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Ride from LA-->SJ Dec27 eve
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:17:42 GMT
Distribution: ca, ba
Organization: BT North America (Tymnet)
Originator: alin@grimm

Could someone give me a ride from LA-->SanJose on Dec27 evening?
I like to share the cost. Please e-mail to me if you can. Thanks!
alin@grimm.Tymnet.COM
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!!   and Hear
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:38:59 GMT


Rasputin's Records in Berkeley is now in a larger building, but I think
they still don't have as much stuff as Amoeba. What do you think?

There is a small CD place in West Berkeley called Hear. The store is
beautifully decorated but the CDs are too expensive. Do you think it
will last long?
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: lourdes@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Lourdes Chacon)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: EIT review course
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:20:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino


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Xref: sparky ba.general:5307 rec.martial-arts:15893
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: ba.general,rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:24:16 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Distribution: ba
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <1992Dec16.235518.24589@adobe.com>, pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:

> The CLUB is not a theft prevention device. It is a way to have a lethal
> weapon handy while pretending it serves some legitimate function. Just
> like those metal MAG-LITE flashlights.

You can also shine it into a suspicous person's eyes, thereby taking away their
night vision.  I've done this once on the beggars who prowl my supermarket
parking lot.  I keep mine jammed between the driver's seat and the center
console.

> He was clearly prepared to
> smash her head in with the MAG-LITE if she made any trouble. But the
> average bystander won't say anything about a flashlight that is not
> used, unlike a PK-24 tonfa.

My 4 D-cell model is heftier than a regular baton, and I think there's
a 5 cell model available.

Canes are also quite legal, if you don't mind looking handicapped or a dandy.

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman 			 
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 01:34:13 GMT


In article <JET.92Dec16115134@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>"rchao" == Robert Chao <rchao@well.sf.ca.us> writes:
>
>rchao> I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
>rchao> in the Berkeley/Oakland area, and where can I find it?
>rchao> Thanks if you have any word.
>
>FYI, I saw a "retired" car thief on 48 hours go through a "club" with
>a hacksaw in under a minute.
>
>Just thought you'd like to know.
>
	Yeah, the fact of the matter is that if a professional car thief
has his or her heart set on taking your car, there's very little you can
actually do to prevent it.  But, not everyone who might think about 
stealing a car is a professional and protection devices probably do a lot
to discourage amateurs from trying.

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>

Newsgroups: ba.general
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!! and Hear
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:54:11 GMT

mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:

>But they fit in there, along with the customary racket pumping out
>of the house speakers -- that "building" is the *ugliest* *pile* *of*
>*shit* I have seen in a long time.  Decorated in junk-yard chic!
>Cold!  Dirty-looking!  Stark factory liting inside!  Hideous garish
>redone sidewalk outside!  EEYECH!  And windows everywhere, so the
>whole world can see you wandering around inside this monument
>to Ugly.

I want to meet the person who came up with the idea of building an 
all-glass structure on Telegraph.

-- Clay
      	  "Existence is existence throughout all of existence."
				-- Stephen Grossman
From: stuczyns@presto.ig.com (Martin Stuczynski)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: college newspapers
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:34:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: IntelliGenetics Inc., Mtn. View, Ca.


I'm interested in finding a directory that lists names/addresses of
domestic college newspapers. Does anyone know if such a directory
exists?

Thanks in advance,

MArty

<marty@presto.ig.com>
From: ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:53:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Home for the Terminally Infirm

I joined Kaiser early last year, when my company was having their annual
open enrollment in medical plans.  I had been on one of those deductible
and co-payment plans.  The first thing I did was ask people I knew at
Kaiser Redwood City to recommend someone as a primary care physician,
and promptly scheduled a "get acquainted" visit with the internist who
got the most recommendations.  He's great.

About 15 months ago I was diagnosed as having Stage C prostate cancer,
with later confirmation of metastasis to the lymph nodes.  Diagnostic
tests, unhesitatingly ordered, included a C/T scan and a bone scan.
Kaiser sent me off to the  Palo Alto Medical Clinic for radiation
therapy, for which they paid around $10,000.  The cancer is inoperable
because of the metastasis, so I'm taking drugs intended to slow or check
its growth.  Meanwhile, every time I report in with a new ache or pain,
the invariable response is to order a new scan of some sort.  

For example, last spring I developed severe tendinitis in my right
shoulder, probably as a result of some house painting.  While it was
fairly obvious what the problem was, I got an MRI scan of the shoulder.
The result was negative, and I was sent off to Physical Therapy.  I've
regained complete mobility of my arm.

A few months ago I went in, complaining of signs of depression,
irritability, short-term memory problems, and various other indications
of emotional distress.  (Hardly surprising.)  Yep.  Another C/T scan,
this time of the brain.  I'm the only person in my office with a
certified normal brain.  :-)  Here, I think Kaiser falls a bit short.
I'm spending my own money for an outside therapist to deal with the
emotional problems, but I can afford it, since I've paid nothing at all
for everything else that Kaiser has done.

Kaiser is not utopia--I've occasionally had to push a little to get what
I wanted--but it's a lot better than I had expected.  And I've certainly
not sensed any holding back on expensive diagnostic tests.  I agree with
Teri Miller; you need to pick one person as your primary care physican,
and stick with him or her, and you sometimes need to be quite vocal
about what you want.  Overall, I'm very satisfied with Kaiser.
-- 
Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear              ekman@netcom.com
Home for the Terminally Infirm, Redwood City, California
Xref: sparky ba.general:5328 rec.bicycles.misc:1662
From: linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill)
Newsgroups: ba.general,rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: long-sleeved cotton T-shirts?
Summary: no luck
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:01:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Inc.

Thanks to the three people who responded to my query regarding finding
long-sleeved cotton T-shirts with bicycle manufacturers logos printed
on them (e.g., Campagnolo, etc.).  The suggestions were:

Colorado Cyclist (no long sleeved)

Wheelsmith in Palo Alto (they only carry ones with the Wheelsmith logo)

Bike Threads in Newark (close - they had white ones with bicycle themes,
but no manufacturer logos on colored shirts; this store is in Cedar Village
behind New Park Mall and appeared to have a good selection of clothing and
cycling paraphenalia; really nice, friendly service; no bikes)

I called Tech Support at Performance to try to find out what happened to
the ones I like, and they said to wait for the February catalog since it's
more of a Spring season item.

Thanks again to Jim, Lawrence and John,  who took the time to offer
suggestions!

-- 
Linda V. Hill                           Email: linda@net.com
Network Equipment Technologies          Phone: (415) 780-5785
800 Saginaw Drive, 23.2.3               Fax:   (415) 780-5001
Redwood City, CA 94063
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:49:35 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec16.044223.11134@netcom.com> steven@netcom.com (Steven Nelson) writes:
>In article <BzBwIt.8tr@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
|>
|>I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
|>in the Berkeley/Oakland area, and where can I find it?
|>Thanks if you have any word.
|>-- 
|>Robert Chao
|>Oakland, California
 
I saw them at Kragens Auto supply the other day.

|If you are talking about a club that locks the stearing wheel, a police
|office was on the 10 o'clock news describing the usefulness of such devices.
|According to this officer, car thiefs can easily disable the clubs by
|using a hacksaw and cutting out a section of the stearing wheel.  The
|time required: 3 - 5 minutes.

The crime du jour these days is carjacking.  Car thieves are finding more
difficult to pursue their line of work these days to various anti-theft 
devices so they just steel the car while you're driving it instead.  Some
of you may have seen the recent story about the car the was stolen in
San Francisco, it's owner put into the trunk, and then rolled while in the
central valley.  Sad.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:30:32 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Distribution: ba
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <BzDvMs.CxH@well.sf.ca.us>, casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
> 
> I think it might be worthwhile if you own the kind of car that someone
> would *only* steal for joyriding (as I do).  A pro wouldn't want my car.

An modest car is no guaranteed protection from car thieves.  If some major
component is rare and pricey as a spare you may become a target.  The front
seats on my '87 Celica, for example, once put it in the upper 25% of theft
targets.  Some thieves steal-to-order just to get a certain component.

From news reports, carjackers frequently take the first victim that looks
easy rather than hold out for a late-model, classy number.





-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman
From: ssmith@xocolatl.com (Shannon Smith)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 17:05:11 PST
Reply-To: ssmith@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

ObJoke, from today's rec.humor.funny no less!

   From: roper@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Roper)
   Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny
   Subject: National health plan
   Keywords: topical, chuckle
   Message-ID: <S4be.2eb5@looking.on.ca>
   Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 12:20:01 EST
   Lines: 15
   Approved: funny@clarinet.com

   A joke making the rounds of my friends...
 
   Q:  Why was baby Jesus born in a stable?
 
   A:  His parents were in an HMO.
Xref: sparky ba.general:5327 ca.wanted:1587
From: jamesf@btr.btr.com (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.general,ca.wanted
Subject: We need a door...
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:42:01 GMT
Followup-To: ba.general
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

Hi all... our heating bill last month was more than the whole util bill 
usually is, so it's time to insulate. We have a glass door that needs an
accompanying wood (or whatever) door to insulate properly. Does anyone have
one laying around that they don't need? It needs to be 83 x 33 or larger,
since I can always cut it down. 

I can be reached via email or at 415-322-7367...

thanks,
jim

Newsgroups: ba.general
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: ba
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:07:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.163500.13007@pony.Ingres.COM> www@Ingres.COM (Bill White) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.044223.11134@netcom.com> steven@netcom.com (Steven Nelson) writes:
>>In article <BzBwIt.8tr@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>>>
>>>I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
[ info about defeating the club trimmed... ]

Another good way to clobber the Club, apparently used by some pros, is
to pour liquid nitrogen on the lock area; once cold-soaked, a smart
rap with a hammer shatters the sob.

I think the Club and other similar goodies are effective *only* against
untrained, spur-of-the-moment joy riders.


kbq

--
Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:04:15 GMT

kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn) writes:
>
>I think the Club and other similar goodies are effective *only* against
>untrained, spur-of-the-moment joy riders.
>

I agree.  In the last ten years, I have become aware of seven incidences
of car theft happening to friends, co-workers, and friends-of same.

In one case, a 280Zx was recovered a month later with new tires and
a pretty good paint job.

ALL of the others appeared to be spur-of-the-moment incidents that
most probably would have been prevented by the Club. Except for
the pickup that was stripped (_after_ being abandoned) and
the MR2 that was rolled, all were recovered right away.
My racquetball racquet had been in Dave's MR2 :-(


About a month ago I was with a friend in Sacramento when he decided to
get one - it was on sale at Target.

My car has a fully integrated alarm system - no chirp-chirp to
bug the neighbors at night.  I may still decide to get one of these
visible things just so maybe someone will see it and walk away.

	Bob
From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Fruitcake
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:08:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


	I love fruitcake.

	If you receive a fruitcake this christmas and do not want it,
	please send me mail.  I will take it from you.

-- 
The Wailer at the Gates of Dawn              | banshee@cats.UCSC.EDU       |
Just who ARE you calling a FROOFROO Head?    |                             |
DoD#0667  "Just a friend of the beast."      | banshee@ucscb.UCSC.EDU      |
2,3,5,7,13,17,19,31,61,89,107,127,521,607....| banshee@ucscb.BITNET        |
Newsgroups: ba.general,rec.autos
From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:23:16 GMT

In article <c8Mr03orc4g700@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> christil@uts.amdahl.com (Christine Lee) writes:
>took off.   The police say that this is a well-known method used by
>car thieves for removing the "club" off steering wheels.  What a
>useless security device!  (Even more useless than car alarms)

It makes a fine "security device" if you have a strong right arm and
know how to use it. Assuming you didn't bring a club to a gun fight,
of course. It's probably almost as useful as a standard cop issue
PK-24 tonfa.

Granted, it's not much good as an anti-theft device.

-- 
My opinions are my own.

Newsgroups: ba.general,alt.folklore.urban
From: James Edward Burns <ddujeb@arco.com>
Subject: Re: Liquid Nitrogen to defeat The Club (was: where to buy a CLUB ...)
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 02:08:09 GMT
Organization: ARCO Long Beach Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d15
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:08:07 GMT

In article <93Ch020z2f.E01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> Terry Carroll,
tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com writes:
>alt.folklore.urban; any comments?   Two months ago our secretary got her
car stolen while she had the club on it.  It was recovered by the CHP a
couple of days later.  The officer said that the club was destroyed by
using freon, then cracking it w/ a hammer.  Supposedly there were still
pieces of the device on the floorboard from where it had been shattered.



J.B.

all disclaimers apply
Newsgroups: ba.general,misc.legal
From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Summary: cop stories
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:49:17 GMT

In article <15967@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>Let me get this straight.  You called 911 because a woman was smoking in
>a non-smoking area?  Un-fucking-believable.

Actually, I asked the manager to "do something about that smoker". If
you want to hold me responsible for what transpired, I suppose you
could make a fair argument for doing so. You could also make the
argument that the perp had the "last clear chance" to avoid what
happened and since she suffered all the adverse effects, she should
have simply put out her cigarette. Instead she lit up another one to
spite me, giving the cops enough time to catch her in the act.

You can call 911 with whatever you like. They will prioritize. In this
case, they sent THREE cops and busted the perp.  I guess that at least
in my city, I get my money's worth of police services for the taxes I
pay.

While we're talking about cop stories, one time we took a trip to LA
(from Belmont) and as I was passing through San Jose, I realized I
wasn't sure if I had closed my garage door or not, so I called the PD
and asked them to check. They said "sure".

-- 
My opinions are my own.

Newsgroups: ba.general
From: stewart@networx.com (Chris Stewart)
Subject: test
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 03:58:22 GMT


Just a test..
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: mosedale@yeahbut.stanford.edu (Dan Mosedale)
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Organization: Stanford Yeast Genome Project
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:54:21 GMT

kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio) writes:

>This is mythical.  In fact, the *surplus* of doctors in urban area contributes
>to higher costs.  And the AMA has little influence in this regard -- they

Hmm?  I don't quite follow this.  A surplus of qualified doctors in an
area should create competition, which in turn would drive prices down.

-Dan


Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: alastair@Cadence.COM (Alastair Young)
Subject: Re: FIAMM Horns??
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:45:46 GMT

In article <li82cuINNas@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> bradam@miata.Eng.Sun.COM (Brad Martinson) writes:
>I've read some really glowing reviews of FIAMMs, but no one I know actually
>*has* a set - can one of you owners give me an idea of what they *sound* like?
>I'm looking for either the "18 wheeler", "Diesel Train", or even perhaps
>"Wake the dead" type sound levels...
>
>TIA -
>

LOUD.

Last set of loud horns I had (car type ait horns) came with a low quality 
solenoid. This died rapidly (vibration?) and shorted through. It is amazing how
embarrassing it is sitting at the side of the road pulling the wiring out
of your bike with an insanity inducing intensity horn blaring in your
ear then having to bump start because your battery is flat. I'd get a good 
solenoid with a much bigger current rating than required.

Al


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