HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: erick@fraser.sfu.ca (Erick Bryce Wong)
Subject: Re: Geometry Puzzler
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:15:44 GMT

gm115@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Gabor Megyesi) writes:
>The answer is yes. It is a general theorem that anything you can do with a
>ruler and compass you can also do with a compass alone, I wish I remembered
>who proved it. Of course you cannot draw a straight line with a compass,
>but we consider a straight line to be known if there are two known points

The sufficiency of the compass was shown by Mascheroni in 1797 (although it was
apparently proved 125 years earlier by Georg Mohr), and its dual, that every
construction that can be done with compass and straight edge can be done with
straight edge alone, provided that one circle and its center are given, was
proved in 1833 by Steiner (and similarly, a circle is considered to be known
if we have its center and radius).

-- 
 -- Erick, the smallest number expressible as the sum of two distinct triangle
           numbers in two distinct ways.
From: kanad@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Kanad Chakraborty)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: "map" of USA
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:45:26 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor

In article <19692.2b617217@ecs.umass.edu> padmanab@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>Suppose you have two maps of USA of different 
>scales. Now you place the smaller map inside 
>the bigger map such that it falls completely 
>within it. 

This is possible only if you don't include Alaska and Hawaii, and
consider only the continental landmass that lies between Canada and
Mexico.

>
>Condider each point on the map to be a distinct 
>city!! 
>
>QUESTION: Are there any city/cities on the 
>smaller map which will coincide with the 
>city/cities  on the bigger map? If so why? 
>

Yes, if the larger map can be regarded as a projection of the smaller one
-- this causes the point of projection to represent the same city in both
maps. (Assumption : Alaska and Hawaii have not been considered.)

>-Prasad Padmanabhan
>Dept. of ECE
>University of Massachusetts
>Amherst, MA-01003

Kanad Chakraborty
From: uurtamo@math.arizona.edu (Steve Uurtamo)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: Irrational numbers
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:45:23 GMT
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
Date: Thursday, 21 Jan 1993 12:01:38 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: Need puzzle help: eye colour enigma
 <93019.115634RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <C16BBG.90L@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

oy vey.  somebody doesn't believe me again with the ritual sacrifice
thing.  here we go again, i'll explain myself.

first, yes, no one tells anyone else their eye color, but that's under
normal circumstances.  these are hardly normal circumstances.  the rule
is in effect under normal circumstances for a very good reason: if the
rule is broken, somebody will die.  however, breaking the rule makes
very much sense in this situation: the person who dies because of it is
going to kick it anyway, and his (perhaps) premature death will (perhaps)
save the lives of additional islanders.  remember, though it was not
stated specifically in this incarnation of the puzzle, the islanders
are completely logical.  as i posted a long time ago, being logical, they
take a clue from mister spock: "the needs of the many outweigh the needs
of the few, or the one".

second, i guess i'll explain exactly how my idea goes into effect, again,
for the benefit of those people who weren't reading this board the last
time we talked about this problem.  after the guru is done talking, the
islanders are each randomly assigned a unique number from 1 to (number of
islanders).  number one gets up on stage and asks, "do i have blue eyes?"
the natives tell him, yes or no, truthfully.  if yes, everybody goes home,
and number one kills himself later that night.  if no, number one sits
down, and number two stands up; the process repeats.  this breaks the
induction that would otherwise kill half the islanders.

third, i'll address the problem that one person had before with this,
to avoid it being addressed again.  the problem he had was that he thought
there was no base case for my idea: that is, if there were exactly one
blue-eye, he would know he was a blue-eye, and so announce, "this meeting
is a waste of time.  wasting time is illogical."  thus the meeting would
never happen.  so now if there were two blue-eyes, the meeting will happen;
one dies, and the other now knows he's a blue-eye, since the meeting did
happen, and there are now no people with blue-eyes left that he can see.

my answer to this is that the meeting is NOT logically a waste of time.
a hundred years down the road, the same situation may occur, but with
more than one blue-eye.  if the current lone blue-eye does not spend
an hour or two making the base case happen, he would be responsible for
the deaths of many blue-eyes.  spending an hour or two to potentially
save the lives of your progeny and countrymen is hardly illogical.

bob vesterman.


Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
From: dave@lsuc.on.ca (David Sherman)
Subject: What's this a diagram of?
Organization: Maintnix Services
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 00:18:40 GMT

                 ----__i_i
                 |  %    /o -v\
                  \    % \_/   \
                  \`-----=,_--'/ o

The above was constructed by a friend of mine.  He claims it's
a good ASCII representation of .... what?

David Sherman
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
From: mikem@ll.mit.edu
Subject: Re: surgeon puzzle
Keywords: situation logic
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:46:40 GMT

In article <C1Gzsu.7pq@fastrac.llnl.gov> dan@danberg.llnl.gov (Dan Bergmann) writes:
>
>A man and his son are involved in an automobile accident. The man dies and
>his son sustains injuries. The son is rushed to a hospital and wheeled 
>into the operating room. The surgeon walks in and says, "I can not 
>operate on this boy. This boy is my son."
>

Yes, so?  What's the puzzle?  Did she say anything else?  I mean, it's
certainly clear enough why she wouldn't want to operate on her own son,
but why did you post this here?

-- Mike Maciolek
mikem@ll.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
From: dboese@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Darcy Boese)
Subject: Re: 21-link chain puzzle (SPOILER)
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:35:19 GMT

sjbuckle@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
: Darcy Boese (dboese@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA) wrote:
: >The other solution is this:
: >
: >1 1 3 5 11
: >
: >(yours was 1 1 3 6 10)
: 
: Surely there's also: 1 2 4 6 8.
: Use 1,2,4,8 to make all numbers up to 15.
: Then repeat how you made up 10-15 and throw in the 6 as well, to get 16-21.

Actually yours is only the solution for part of the puzzle.  For the rest of
the solution, you would need to make fewer breaks in the chain to create
the pieces.

Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
From: dalbec@cs.cornell.edu (John P. Dalbec)
Subject: Re: Are you sure?
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:04:04 GMT

The difficulty in this problem is that you can't apply Bayes' theorem without
knowing the prior probability that, if your friend has a boy and a girl, the
girl is the one that you meet.  Half of the people have been arguing that the
probability is 50% because it's equally likely that you'll meet either child.
The other half have been arguing (wrongly, I think) that the probability is
100% because you did meet the girl.  But probability is not about single
events.  Probability answers the question, "If I saw my friend with one of
her children a large number of times, about how many of those times would
the child with her be female?"  I don't think it's necessarily correct to
assume that your friend would be equally likely to meet you with her son
as with her daughter, so the 50% camp is also on shaky ground.

-- 
John Dalbec (dalbec@cs.cornell.edu) Speak for yourself--I do!
From: padmanab@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: "map" of USA
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:28:07 GMT

Suppose you have two maps of USA of different 
scales. Now you place the smaller map inside 
the bigger map such that it falls completely 
within it. 

Condider each point on the map to be a distinct 
city!! 

QUESTION: Are there any city/cities on the 
smaller map which will coincide with the 
city/cities  on the bigger map? If so why? 

-Prasad Padmanabhan
Dept. of ECE
University of Massachusetts
Amherst, MA-01003
From: kirby@cs.arizona.edu (Kirby W Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: A puzzle?
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:40:09 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1993Jan22.004738.16681@cc.umontreal.ca> casgrain@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Casgrain Philippe) writes:
>The man had a hiccup. He needed either to drink some water or be scared.
>

Nope...  The bartender couldn't talk because he had his tongue cut out
by a six-fingered man when he was a boy.  Since they didn't serve water
at that saloon, and since the water fountain was across the street (behind
the man looking for water), the bartender grabbed the nearest pointing
device and pointed the shotgun across the street.  The man moved to the 
side, turned around, saw the fountain, thanked the bartender, and
walked off.

>Philippe
>

-Kirby    :)
From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: CWC 29 Entries (Spoilers)
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:41:52 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

Here are all the entries for CWC 29.
Thanks to all the entrants;
sorry I don't have time for comments.

First word: HELICOPTER

Flyer misquoted hotel price (10) [winner]
    [anag "hotel price"]

Chopper is kinky erotic help (10) [very close runner-up]
    [anag "erotic help"]

She gyrates as she takes off her clothing--judge and priest
swipe undershirt! (10)
    ["her" containing "Eli cop T"]

Ridiculous hotel price includes air transport (10)
    [anag "hotel price"]

Deal with initial tipsiness in stomach right after endless
spiral in flying machine (10)
    ["t" in "cope" + R after "heli(x)"]

Flies the police right! (10)
    [anag "the police R", &lit.]

Something to make pilot cheer (10)
    [anag "pilot cheer" &lit.]

The chopper is here, to clip and shred (10)
    [anag "here, to clip"]

Ghastly hotel price causes revolution (10)
    [anag "hotel price"]

Help erotic chopper! (10)
    [anag "help erotic"]

In here, pilot messups head for crash landing! (10)
    [c(rash) in anag "here, pilot"]

Possibly cheer pilot up to start with (10)
    [anag "cheer pilot"]

The police in disarray, rioters start flying rock (10)
    [anag "the police" + r(ioters)]

Second word: MACROBIOTIC

Scottie, like an automaton, ate one kind of diet (11) [overall winner]
    [Mac robotic containing 1]

Is diet of rice and vegetables only a bit comic -- or outrageous? (11)
    [anag "a bit comic or"]

Prolonging life of small computer android having one
integrated circuit (11)
    [Mac robot containing 1 + IC]

Long-lived cluer caught by adjective describing Scottish
mechanical man? (11)
    [I in Mac-robotic]

Vegetarian must be a bit comic, or else (11)
    [anag "a bit comic or"]

Rip Van Winkle, for example, might convey ICBM to Cairo (11)
    [anag "ICBM to Cairo"]

Computer-like Japanese factories include one fueled by brown rice (11)
    [Mac robotic containing 1]

Half of my carob needs to spoil before I'd leave foolish
health food nut (11)
    [anag "m(y) carob" + (id)iotic]

I omit crab scrambled with egg, correctly beginning special diet (11)
    [anag "I omit crab + 0" + c(orrectly)]

Wholefood hash defines bisexual with no habit (11)
    [macro + bi + 0 + tic]

Vegi diet poem uses strange iambic(c) root (11)
    [anag "iambic(c) root", ref. this:
        MACROBIOTIC
        This new diet is quite simply exotic,
        You might want to call it hyper-neurotic!
        The rules for eating are somewhat quixotic,
        Leaving one starving, angry, chlorotic.]

-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"*cock* n. a small pile of hay, dung, etc."
-- Chambers English Dictionary (1988)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: CWC 29 Entries (Spoilers)
Organization: crosswords
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:02:01 GMT

roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
> Here are all the entries for CWC 29.
> Thanks to all the entrants;
> sorry I don't have time for comments.

     I take this to mean something really
extraordinary must have happened to your
normal work schedule, because surely you
would not have agreed to moderate a contest
if you didn't plan to have the time to do it.

--Ralph Kennedy,     {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
  the new Charles       {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
  Barkley of the net,                     ^---------------The Wrong Choice
  comin' on strong           internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: CWC 29 Winners
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:26:32 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

The winning clue for the first word is
Ilana Stern <ilana@niwot.scd.ucar.EDU>'s:

	Flyer misquoted hotel price (10)

The winning clue for the second word,
and the overall winner, is
Tom Deneau <tomd@cayman.amd.com>'s:

	Scottie, like an automaton, ate one kind of diet (11)

Congratulations, both.
I'm waiting for email responses
to establish who'll run the next round.
(We haven't had any news arrive for a couple of days,
so maybe email's having problems too?)

I'll post a full list of entries later.
-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"*crib-biting* in horses, a vicious habit of biting the manger,
etc., and swallowing air" -- Chambers English Dictionary (1988)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: PCWC 9 urgent message to contributors
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:01:35 GMT

The file I was saving entries to somehow became corrupted.  The following
people's entries are still ok:

archmage@vnet.ibm.com 
boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU
jbryan@nova.Stanford.EDU 
quinn@ee-cf.stanford.edu 

If you're reading this, nj, please resend me your entry, if you still
remember it!  There was also at least one other person (whose name I 
don't remember) who sent me an entry -- please resend it!

Apologies maximus.

-- 
/\    "I'm only a human girl person.  I ain't always perfect."--Rambling Rose
  \_][ <--NCAR Ilana Stern dod#009 r.b. cliff swallow ilana@ncar.ucar.edu    
      \______________________________________________________________________
From: dlytle@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Don Lytle)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: The Association for the Study of Play conference
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:54:43 GMT
Reply-To: dlytle@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu


                 *****   ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS   *****

                             TASP 1993 - St. Paul, MN
                     The Association for the Study of Play
      April 22 - 24, 1993 * The St. Paul Hotel * St. Paul, Minnesota

   The Association For The Study of Play (TASP) will hold its 1993 annual meetings in St. Paul, Minnesota.  The conference will begin Thursday and continue   until Saturday, April 24. There will be featured speakers, playshops, and forums for the discussion and presentation of   research papers on all aspects of play research, theory, performance and behavior.
    For the past twenty years TASP conferences have provided  a  mechanism by  which  researchers in diverse fields have the opportunity to share ideas  and  interact  in  a friendly and collegial atmosphere.
   Papers and proposals for panel sessions or tutorials related to the broad  study of play are invited.  Sessions include, but are not limited to:
 - Humor, laughter
 - Computer and cyperspace play
 - Folklore
 - Children's play behavior
 - Cross-cultural play
 - Body work and play art
 - Performance 
 - Anthropology of festive play
 - Sport
 - Literary playfulness

Deadline for submission of abstracts is February 5, 1993.

Send abstracts (100 word maximum), audio-visual needs, and registration fees  ($60 professional and $20 student made payable to TASP) to:

Dr. Don Lytle
Department of Physical Education
California State University, Chico  95929-0330. 
Bitnet/E-Mail: DLYTLE@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU; FAX: 916 898-4932; 
Phone: {916} 898-6617 or 898-6373 {message}
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: quinn@EE-CF.Stanford.EDU (Christine A. Quinn)
Subject: Cryptic Clues for Workplace Game
Followup-To: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Summary: Create a clue for your workplace
Keywords: cryptic, non-competitive, game
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:26:13 GMT


In the grand tradition of Ilana Stern's name game, (whereby players
provided cryptic clues of their names and we tried to match them)
I propose a new edition:  The Workplace game.

In this chapter, we find the entrants creating cryptic clues that 
describe their workplace. This could be a University, institution, 
company, whatever.

Contestants have until February 1 23:59 PST to submit their clues.  
Send them to me at 

         quinn@eecf.stanford.edu

I will compile and rearrange the clue from the answer, as was 
done in the name game. On Feb. 3 I will post the rearranged clues 
and answers so that you can have fun matching them.

As with the name game, this will not be a competition - 
just another way to have fun with cryptics.

-chris quinn
quinn@eecf.stanford.edu

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With awkish scripts and starkest posts, |  Stanford University
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From: prking@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Peter King)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: Latest Contests
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:56:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


Help!

My newsreader and I have conspired to lose the latest ACC CWC and PCWC
contests. I would be forever in the debts of the setters of these if
they would send me copies of them.

I have SUCH a good clue for one of the words and cannot recall which
contest it was for...

Thanks.

Peter King
--
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles.crosswords
From: ratnakar@tortilla.cs.wisc.edu (Viresh Ratnakar)
Subject: ACC17: WINNER 
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:46:11 GMT

The winning clue in ACC17 is

       Drunk ate bride in confusion. (10)

This was sent by Rhys Price Jones. I got a whole bunch of good
clues and had a hard time picking the winner. More on this, and
more rambling in my next posting, which will include the complete
list of clues. The winner is hereby congratulated and invited to
run ACC18--all in one sentence that conveniently avoids the use
of any pronouns.

----------------------------------
Viresh Ratnakar
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: 1/2, 1/3, boy girl the answer to life & everything
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:48:42 GMT
 <C1J1GE.5wy@news.rich.bnr.ca>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <C1J1GE.5wy@news.rich.bnr.ca>
bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash) writes:

> >From: cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen)
> 
> Everything stated is corect, until this:
> >   A coin is tossed twice. You are told that *at least* one of the tosses
> >   produced heads. What is the probabilty that THE SECOND (and *not* the
> >   first!) toss produced heads to make both tosses heads. In this case,
> >   the permutations of HT and TH are distinhuished and different. the
> >   answer now is 1/3. People read the original question and see the above
> >   one, because it's easy to make this mistake. 
> 
> What is the prob. that the 2nd toss is heads and not the first, making
> both tosses
> heads?  Zero!  If the first toss is not heads, then they can't be both heads!
> I think you want to re-state this.
> I think this is what you mean:
> 
> A coin is tossed twice. You know that *at least* one of the tosses is heads.
> What is the prob. that the second toss is heads?  Ans = 2/3.
> What is the prob. that they are both heads? Ans = 1/3.
> 
> 
> 
> The main point with the sibling/coin problem is whether or not the the
> probabilities are independent or not.  If you say "One is x, what is the
> prob. that the other is also x?", then the probabilities are independent and
> the fact that "One is x" doesn't change anything.  If you say "At least
> one is x 
> (out of two), what is the prob. that number 2 is x?" links the prob.s because
> if the first is not-x, then the second _must_ be x, so the answer is different.
> 
> Does this sound reasonable?   (I got nailed for missing this on the
> first pass :)
> 
> Brian /-|-\

But what would the answer be if Monty Hall asked the question?

:-)


--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
From: water772@Armstrong.EDU (Kelly Waters)
Subject: What's the next number and why?
Organization: Armstrong State College, Savannah, GA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:41:40 GMT

Hi,

	I thought of an interesting sequence, 

	0, 1, 4, 19, 124 ....

	Can you explain the sequence and give the next entries?

I hope it's not to simple ....  Have fun!

Kelly Waters							po bif asc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
words of encouragement : "Great men start off as punks like everyone else."

favorite nagging question : "If I exist, do you? And How about Fred? Or Herman?"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: padmanab@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: Irrational numbers
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:37:14 GMT

Here is an interesting puzzle concerning 
irrational numbers: 

Can you find two IRRATIONAL NUMBERS P and Q such that 

                    Q 
                   P  =  rational? 

HAVE FUN!

-Prasad Padmanabhan
Dept. of ECE
University of Massachusetts
Amherst MA 01003
From: sjbuckle@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: 21-link chain puzzle (SPOILER)
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:45:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Darcy Boese (dboese@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA) wrote:
>The other solution is this:
>
>1 1 3 5 11
>
>(yours was 1 1 3 6 10)

Surely there's also: 1 2 4 6 8.
Use 1,2,4,8 to make all numbers up to 15.
Then repeat how you made up 10-15 and throw in the 6 as well, to get 16-21.
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles
From: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: 27+2=30
Reply-To: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:29:51 GMT


In a previous article, haddadi@sipi.usc.edu (Navid Haddadi) says:

>Here is a very old puzzle:

Agreed.

>Three men rent a room for $30. The inn keeper decides that he has
>over charged them and gives the bellboy $5 to give back to the men.
>The bellboy decides to keep $2 and give each man $1. 
>So, each man has paid $9 (3x9=27) plus the $2 that the boy kept.
>Hence, 27+2=30.
>
>It is actually more funny than silly!

Further, it's more flawed than funny.

You're treating the $2 as if it magically appeared in the bellhop's
grimy little hand. Recall that she got the money from the innkeeper,
who got the money from the guests.

Thus each guest contributed $9, including one third of the $25 that the
innkeeper kept ($8 1/3 each) and one third of the $2 that the short-timer
bellhop kept ($0 2/3 each). No biggie.


-- 
Marc Sira                    |
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