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From: discodav@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Miller)
Subject: R65 ignition followup
Summary: Check your leads
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 23:42:39 GMT

Hey Again,
I'd like to thank those of you who emailed me with advice/sympathy.
Turns out that the problem was one of failed resistors and contacts
in both spark plug leads.  One lead had no connection from coil to
resistor in the plug cap (ok resistor), while the other lead had ok
contacts but a fried 5k resistor.

Replacing the cables cost about $36 for both.  Overpriced, but not
unreasonably so.  

Special thanks to Jerry Kaidor and Frank Warner, both of whom suggested
a closer look at the leads.

As to why I believed that the ignition control unit ($195) was flaky, 
it comes down to the rather ambiguous wording in the Clymer section
on tracking down troubles in the E.I.  BTW, Clymer does not give ANY
values for proper resistances in the spark plug leads.  Does anyone
out there have the "official" BMW service manual for their own bike?
Is it any better than the Clymer?  I was originally going to get the
factory "official" manual, but the guy (Kari) at Cal BMW convinced
me otherwise.

My bike still doesn't run quite right now, but it does run.  I 
installed the leads this morning.  During test riding, I noticed 
that the bike runs roughly (a la single cylinder) when I back off
on the throttle to the idle position.  When I did this at several
stoplights on El Camino, the bike would often die suddenly.  Restarting
was fairly easy, if nerve-rattling.  The bike also sounds somewhat
different during normal driving, but I can't quite put my finger
on what specifically is different.

Should I check out the carburetors?  Does it seem like my pilot jet
is gummy?  My Yammy-Ha once had gummed carbs, but that made the 
engine sound staccato (sp?) and underpowered.  Doesn't quite feel 
the same here.  Does having an open-to-the-air fuel line for about
five days have anything to do with it? (had the tank off so's I could
work on the ignition.  it was indoors {garage})

To Charlie Smith:
Cal BMW can be reached at (415) 966-1183

Thanks again to all who wrote with advice,

-ddave
Dave Miller

"A bastard child of the BMW world" - CST
From: jessea@u013.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bike Stolen - replacement cost?
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:35:13 GMT
Organization: Varco-Pruden Buildings

Well, I just got my first motorcycle about a month ago and I've already
had it stolen.  I'm not pleased with the insurance company and I wanted
to get some opinions about how much my bike might be worth.

I had a '79 Kawasaki KZ650SR (4 cylinder) with a Vetter faring (Windstar is
the model) that was a half faring.  It was a full-frame mount faring.
It was in great shape with only 14000 miles and I just had the coils
replaced, a tune-up, and carbs cleaned.  Not a thing wrong with it -
didn't even have many scratches.  Any ideas as to how much it might go
for?  The insurance company said that '82 and '83 Goldwings go for $1000
and that my bike wasn't even close to that.  Sounds to me like I'm getting
ready to be screwed.  Any comments?


-- 
      Jesse W. Asher                                          (901)762-6000
                             Varco-Pruden Buildings
                 6000 Poplar Ave., Suite 400, Memphis, TN  38119
    Internet: jessea@vpbuild.vp.com                   UUCP: vpbuild!jessea
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland)
Subject: Re: Another poser exposed (was Re: lane splitt
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:38:12 GMT

In article <1isbjeINNlh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, 
egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

|> #4:Jeffrey Friedl:Kyoto, Japan:jfriedl@omron.co.jp
... Note also that he is at the BOTTOM of the list, along with all
|> the other geeky weeny nerds, as a sign of the KotL's contempt.

I thought it was a sign of the sort programs sort order....

Silly me. 

Get a bike, and take some time out to ride. You deserve it.

Curt, DoD#0663
...the tired Graveyard shift biker.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Bike Stolen - replacement cost?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:15:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan08.003513.22065@vpbuild.vp.com> jessea@u013.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher) writes:
>for?  The insurance company said that '82 and '83 Goldwings go for $1000
>and that my bike wasn't even close to that.  Sounds to me like I'm getting
>ready to be screwed.  Any comments?

News flash: Insurance companies exist to take your money.  As a side effect
of their existence, they sometimes pay benefits to randomly selected people
who petition them for many days and threaten them with lawsuits.

Seriously, I have an 81 Wing with all Vetter stuff, and they go for $2000
around here.  They will screw you over: that is their sole purpose in life.

The nice thing about used bikes is that they (usually) are not a large 
percentage of your possessions from a strict monetary point of view.  I
see that as an asset, especially as I don't have to pay big insurance bills,
and the money I save could buy another bike every two years.  The fact that
I buy more bicycle stuff instead means nothing, trust me...

BTW, I have some bicycle parts for sale:      anybody want to start BIDDING?

CP "well, golllllllee ain't that a big one!!" Tomes
From: gnome@pd.org (Mike Mitten)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A tantalizing calender....
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:51:57 GMT
Organization: The Laughing Gnome Software Farm, Atlanta, GA, USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dan J. Declerck (declrckd@rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
[...]
>I dunno, motorcycling is much different for them than me.

That's one of the best things about it!

  -Mike

Mike Mitten - gnome@pd.org - ...!emory!pd.org!gnome - AMA#675197 - DoD#522
Irony is the spice of life.     '90 Bianchi Backstreet  '82 Suzuki GS850GL
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Strangers on your bike (was: Protection for your bike)
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:08:48 GMT

In article <1ic6kbINN1al@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu () writes:
>
>Fancy drawing -- how's the ride with hex wheels though?

Probably just fine if you ride on a road with the right kind of bumps in it.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Engine Theory 101
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:57:42 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 15684@cs.cornell.edu, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>
>>Once the engine is driving the wheel (clutch fully disengaged),
>
>Err... do you mean "engaged"?

Err... I mean the clutch *lever* is disengaged...    :^)

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Engine Theory 101
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:43:58 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1993Jan7.044856.20138@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp>, jfriedl@omron.co.jp (Jeffrey Friedl) writes:
> Being rather ignorant of the way of the engine ("enjin-dou" :-),
>. what I'd like to know is the mechanics of what the
> clutch does in all this.

The clutch allows you to disengage the engine from the rest of the 
powertrain.  When disengaged, you unload the transmission gears 
so they can be shifted without wear or damage.
 
> and I decided I'd rather use the
> actual brakes than risk any clutch damage (if such use of the clutch
> might damage it).

Good idea....use the brakes for braking and the clutch for shifting!

 
> 
> Finally, it's common here (Japan) when shutting off the engine to first
> rev the engine high (80% to redline?) and then (while up there) hit the
> kill switch.  Takes all of half a second so it's no bother, but I wonder
> why this is done.  Somehow "clears the engine out"? Or is it just silly.


No it's not silly, it's stupid.  This procedure is benign at best and 
engine damaging at worst.  Any time you rev the engine without a load, 
you stand a good chance you will rev beyond the redline or mechanical 
limit of the motor, increasing chances of bent valves, dropped valves, 
spun bearings etc.  Assuming you have somehow avoided the mechanical 
damage, hitting the kill switch at high rpm with the throttle open 
simply loads the motor with raw fuel and dilutes the oil.  This is 
not good for the longevity of the motor.
.......Dr. Doom
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From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bell Helmets
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:31:19 GMT
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
NNTP-Posting-Host: microb0.biostat.washington.edu
Keywords: helmet Bell

In article <1993Jan7.214533.23804@cs.cornell.edu>
 karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:

>3. People on motorcycles can have high-speed one-vehicle accidents,
>where head injury is a serious factor.  Bicyclists seldom impact
>anything faster than about 30 mph unless they are hit by a car, in
>which case they get smeared all over the road and head injuries are
>less of a factor.

I think the more important factor is the vertical velocity of your head 
hitting the street, which is going to be similar on a bicycle going 20 mph 
or a motorcycle going 70. As a bicycle and motorcycle commuter, 
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am at significantly greater 
risk on my bicycle than on my motorcycle, at least in an urban setting. I 
have "used" my bicycle helmet three times in the last 9 years, while my 
motorcycle helmet wasn't "used" once. I wouldn't ride a motorcycle or 
bicycle without a helmet, but I believe riding without one is even 
crazier for a bicyclist than for a motorcyclist.

(Say Mr. Attorney, once when I "used" my Bell Biker, I suffered a fractured 
helmet and a subdural hematoma. Should I have sued Bell? Is it too late?)

Steve
COG, HOG, AMA, DoD # 1951



__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Engine Theory 101
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:27:07 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1ii2e8INNnav@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article JBH@world.std.com, CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras) writes:
>>egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>>>  Once the engine is
>>>driving the wheel (clutch fully disengaged), the clutch is not
>>>necessary for shifting gears, and you only need it again if you want to
>>>stop the wheel and not the engine.
>>
>>OK, I'll bite.  Do you REALLY shift from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 etc. WITHOUT
>>using the clutch?  Is this thought to be good for the transmission and
>>good driving practice?
>
>I said not *necessary*.  It's there if you want to use it.

And it's generally recommended that you do.

>
>And yes, I REALLY shift up and down WITHOUT using the clutch (mostly
>up, but that's just me).  It's all in the throttle.  Weight the shift
>lever slightly, and blip the throttle (down for up-shifting, up for
>down-shifting) to match engine speed, and she'll snick right into gear,
>slick as snail snot on teflon.  Done properly, it is harmless to the
>transmission.  "Good driving practice" is rather vague (particularly on
>a motorcycle!).  I don't think it has any safety implications...

Whose bike are you doing this to, Ed?

>
>You guys never ridden in a semi?
>

Yup. In the driver's seat.

Jeff Achenbach
              
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jgd@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (Jerome Donovan)
Subject: Wanted Honda 750A
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:13:33 GMT
Keywords: Auto trans



I'm looking to buy a Honda 750A engine.  Manufactured
between the years 76-78 this thing has an automatic 
transmission.  Anyone with such an item to sell or information
leading me to one would be appreciated.

	Please respond to Paul Erckman 708-224-4965
			  	       nwuxd!pce9669
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Corporate logos (was: Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100)
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 19:35:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.210325.17361@elektro.cmhnet.org>
charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>In article <1993Jan06.223154.8479@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com
(Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>Jonathan E. Quist                           Lachman Technology, Incorporated
>>jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
>
>Hey, Jonathan -
>
>When did INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation   change to  Lachman Technology, Inc.
><??>

Interactive has owned Lachman for several years.  This is
all a matter of terminology.

Sun now owns Interactive.  Don't be surprised if Jonathan's
.sig says "SunSoft" some time soon, instead of "Lachman".
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: Quieting down a Honda CR-125? ('86)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:41:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.210909.2843@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> greenie@drycas.club.cc
.cmu.edu writes:
>Say, does anybody know if it's possible to "quiet down" a Honda CR-125 ('86)?
>I just bought one a while ago but it's too damn loud for my neighborhood :-)
>And for me.  I was wondering if anybody out there (some die-hards perhaps) has
>any suggestions for quieting it down.  Any help would be appreciated...!
>
>Andy



I don't think you know what a 'die-hard' is.  I consider myself to be one
( An all American Harley Davidson rider and loyal supporter), with a bad
habit; or addiction, whatever you want to call it.---dirtbikes!!!

Anyway, my die-hard opinion would be to take a sledge hammer to the son of
a bitch.  Thatd' quiet it!

But my other opinion would be to check the packing in the silencer and check
the gasket where the pipe connects to the jug.

By the way, when I'm riding where no one else minds the sound, I just wear
earplugs.


         steve
-- 
"Nobody tells a Navy man when he's had enough to drink, cause only a Navy man
 knows when he's had enough to drink!"
-Steven J Orlin   sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: More winter gear news
Date: 5 Jan 1993 02:59:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I think it is just time to call me keeper of the mail order catalogue....

Target still has the $2.25 neckwarmers (Gold Circle for you East Coasters)

Today I got a mail order catalogue from WearGuard, a maker of work clothes
and uniforms....

Noteworthy for us are the rainsuitsThe jacket with bibbed pants version comes in sizes up to 5X!!! That should fit over any leather jacket. Prices are average.
But with sizes running from 34 to 64, they've got to fit just about anyone.

They also sell a heavy duty insulated rainsuit (5oz polyfoam insulation)
for $40 in sizez 34-52 in three "attractive" colors, Caltrans Orange, Navy
and bright yellow. Pants are bib style

they also have gloves, jacket liners, etc. Winter Clearance Sale ends 2/17

Catalogue Number is 1-800-388-3300

I have not tested any of Wearguard's stuff, just passing along info. But
don't worry, I have a dissertation to procrastinate on, so no shopping
opportunity will go unobserved.

Freezing in Berkeley,


-- 
Lisa DeLorme                            
delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
                    Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Real life facts about insurance companies
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 21:29:22 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:

> In article <C0J0A1.L9B@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu writes:
> 
> >News flash: Insurance companies exist to take your money.
> 
> >              They will screw you over: that is their sole purpose in life.
> 
> Statements such as these, and threads whose subject lines include phrases
> such as "insurance scum", annoy me.  I think its time for all of us to
> realize that, like every other business in a capitalistic society, the
> mission of the insurance company is to maiximize its profit while providing
> goods or services to its customers.
> 

While I would agree that a substantial portion of insurance companies 
operate ethically, and do their best to look after their clients when 
they make a claim, that is certainly NOT true of all of them. 

There's a very sizable proportion that are happy to take your money, but 
extremely reluctant to pay out even a straight-forward claim. Some of 
them are only out to maximize their profits, the consumer be damned. 
Those companies ARE scum.



Robert Smits Ladysmith BC  | Why do Englishmen drink warm beer?
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca      | They all have Lucas refrigerators.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: young@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Norm Young)
Subject: Re: Yamaha TDM 850, comments wanted.
Reply-To: young@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Organization: Communication Research Centre
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:01:10 GMT

In article 6743@eua.ericsson.se, trsajo@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Johansson) writes:
> 
> ....

> > The TDM appears to have the same riding position as an off-road bike, but
> > how does it handle bumps and unpaved roads? Should I get a Transalp instead?
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> > (No, the Africa Twin is to heavy!). The KLE 500 also looks interesting, but 
> > I've already got a dirtbike (KDX 200), and 500cc is a bit small on the road.
> > 
> > Two cylinders is better than one (less vibrations I hope :-), and 850cc should
> > provide enough pover (77hp i think). 
> > 
> > What I really need is a bike that is perfect for shorter trips, sometimes two up,
> > on twisty, bumpy, sometimes unpaved roads. 

.....
> > 
> > Anders Johansson
> > 
> 
I can't comment on the TDM 850 but I did have a Transalp that I liked a *lot*.

I used it for the sort of riding you describe including a 3500 km two-up tour.
During the longer rides I always lusted after hard bags and a taller windshield
and eventually sold it and bought an ST for touring.

Not long after it was gone I saw several Transalps in Europe that had hard bags
and taller shields.  Made me wish I had hung onto mine. :-(

Overall, it was very smooth, made decent power handled the rough paved roads
and the odd unpaved road with ease.

They were only sold for one year here in Canada '87, I guess there weren't very
many riders like me who went for the quasi dual purpose style.  Pity.

Vi ses.

---
 Norm Young             | '77 Bonny     Sunday afternoon Putt
 Communications         | '80 CBX       Friday night Scream
 Research Centre        | '92 ST        Summer Ramble
 Ottawa, Ontario        | Still looking for a ring-a-ding smoker.. 
 Tel: 1-613-990-8779    | E-Mail: young@uranus.dgrc.doc.ca
 Fax: 1-613-990-7987    | Disclamer?  Huh?        DoD #0770
From: alpha@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Alpha Schram)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bra acution: Ride for Sight info.
Date: 13 Jan 1993 03:39:51 GMT
Organization: Stanford University Amateur Radio Club, California USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: w6yx.stanford.edu

In article <1993Jan12.203724.5656@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
[about Ride for Sight and the Bra Auction}

I'm just curious--Is this going for American or Canadian dollars?

Flame me if you like.



-- 
Alpha Schram	    	ROMANI ITE DOMUM 	    alpha@w6yx.stanford.edu
1974 CB360 (Sexy Sadie)      "It's not a big motorcycle,
					 just a groovy little motorbike..."

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: I've got tin back again!!!
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:40:22 GMT

Yeah yeah yeah!  (As John, Paul, George and Richard once said).

I have got back onto tin once again and can resume my senseless onslaught of
British drivel onto your beautiful newsgroup!

I can hear everypne cheering from here!

Nappy Yew Hear to the lot of you!


ObMoto> My throttle grip needs oiling, it's jerky and sticks.  Also the rubber
        seems to be working itself off.  Is this normal?  I said throttle grip!


Nick (the Sciatica'd Biker)   DoD 1069

M'Lud.
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Any BMW R100GS [PD] owners out there?
Summary: Most of us died laughing upon reading the subject line
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:13:57 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)

rstewart@ganglia.megatek.com (Rich Stewart) writes:

>I have been thinking about purchasing either a R100GS or a R100GS PD
>I was wonder how any owners of such bike feel about them. Hows the
>ride, what does it cost to keep it running, etc.

You would have known the answer to this if you had spent a few weeks
reading the group before asking such a silly question.  Since you're
probably too busy for that, I'll give you a synopsis.

All of us unfortunate enough to have fallen for the BMW propaganda
blitz and misinformation campaign hawking this obscene excuse for a
motorcycle hate them with a passion, and deeply regret not having
bought an FJ1200 instead.  We have local support groups, but the FJ
folks always find us and jeer at us.  Often running circles around us
as we try to ride our ugly, garish colored bikes out in public.  Now
the Hawk crowd is growing, and they, along with their street-racing
cousins enjoy taunting us to no end.

It's a beast.  It's ugly.  It's got no power.  It's too tall.  It
comes in wierd colors.  It's ugly (did I say that already?).  It uses
ancient technology.  It looks funny.  It's too expensive. It has no
electronic gas guage or even a gear indicator.  It's too slow for a
street racer and too heavy to take tromping through heavy dirt and mud
riding.  Those of us afflicted with ownership will, however, dismember
anyone who attempts to take ours away from us.  It must be those
notorious German brainwashing techniques.  I hear that in this case,
they are transmitted as vibrations through the seat and grips.

>Thanks.
>Please reply via e-mail.

Nope.  You asked here, without sticking around long enough to get a
taste for what goes on here, you'll just have to come back and read
your responses here as well.  Geesh I resent people who expect *me* to
spend *my* time not only finding their questions, but responding to
them when they aren't willing to invest the time to check back once
and a while for responses.  Oh, I did find it, and I did respond, I,
um I just don't know what to say.  I'm so ashamed.

Sunny days on Mondays always get me down...



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