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From: adamsm@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: IBM and their CSD's ??
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:58:23 GMT

I recently called IBM's os2 tech line to report the black and white icon bug
that I discovered shortly after installing for the first time.  (I recieved my
os2 upgrade package about a month ago).  I reported the bug and the rep told me
that it was fairly common and that they did not have a fix for it yet,
althought they were working on it now.  After poking around in the net here, I
understand that the fix was out months ago in a CSD?  I asked the rep to send
me a disk with current bug fixes so that I would not have to discover all the
bugs myself.  He replied that all bugs and fixes were handled on a case by case
basis and could not send me a disk, although he would send me the B&W icon fix,
alone, as soon as it was discovered.  Am I being snowballed here?  If the CSD's
are available, why didn't he just send me one? And what is this about not
having a fix for bug commonly known to have a fix out?  What I'm really trying
to ask here is where to get a CSD as IBM has obviously put me on a backburner
here.  Can anyone help me here?????
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: new Tseng4000 drivers blew up my system...
From: andrew@folly.welly.gen.nz (Andrew McMillan)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:53:27 +1200
Organization: Andrew's Folly, Wellington, New Zealand

affie@earley.sns.neuphilologie.uni-tuebingen.de (Ralf "Affie" Hauser) writes:

> |> board and my screen is transformed into static.  Since, my screen is
> |> completely illegible, it is impossible to delete the offending
> |> line and I'm forced to re-install OS/2.  I even tried using the
> |> installation disk and disk #1 (typing ESC as recommended by the
> |> FAQ) to get a system prompt, and it does work, BUT my hard drive
> |> is not recognized.  
> |> 
> |> I've already done the re-install, but I sure would be grateful
> |> if someone could clue me into an easier solution for the next
> |> time.
> 
> A friend of mine had the same: He installed a different video driver for his
> TRIDENT adapter card but it didn't work. 
> So he wanted to boot with the installation disks but could not
> access the hard disk (No boot manger, HPFS, no other partitions). 
> He then had to do a re-install, too. 
> 
> Anybody knowing the reason for that hidden disk ?

If OS/2 is installed in a primary partition, and the system normally
booted with boot manager, it won't be accessible from floppy boot
unless you run FDisk and mark the partition active.  That's what
happens in DOS anyway, but I'm not completely sure about OS/2 as I
have it installed to an extended partition.

For the guy above, it might be OK to include the a: drive at the
beginning of your 'LIBPATH' and then put a floppy in during bootup
containing the drivers to be tested.

I've tried this here, and it worked fine when I was testing the Tseng
4000 drivers on my system.  It's important to have a blank floppy too
though, as the system insists on searching that drive a lot during
boot (not surprising, really!), and eventually gets stuck.

Cheers,

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tedc@ee.ubc.ca (ted chen)
Subject: Full Screen to Windowed DOS session
Followup-To:  comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:41:24 GMT

When I use Alt-Home to go from a FS Dos session to a windowed Dos session,
the command prompt appears but I cannot type anything.  If I switch back
to FS, I can see what I entered in the window.  Seems the windowed session
is accepting the input, but isn't displaying them.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Subject: csd dates
Reply-To: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:58:16 EST

In message <1840#vall.dsv.su.se>, harald@vall.dsv.su.se (Harald Fragner)
writes:

HF>I was told today by an IBM person the CSD would probably be out in November.

This coincides what what our rep said to me.

HF>However he also stated it already ships with some IBM machines, as far as
HF>I understood this means PS/2s with OS/2 pre-installed. Appaerantly the

This doesn't.  I've not  heard of  ANY release.  If it  was available on
these PS/2s,  I would  expect that  it would  appear on  the nets within
minutes of being discovered. :-)

HF>32-bit VGA and XGA drivers are already done, and there exists a beta of

I have heard that the video drivers are in late beta. I don't know if  I
would call them already done;  testing has apparently found a  number of
problems that may need to be rectified before shipping them.

HF>this CSD which is "IBM internal only". He also mentioned September 14 as
HF>a date for a new release, this probably is a new beta possibly containing
HF>8514 and SVGA drivers for the new graphics engine.

Which would be nice.

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From: juan@noyles.pha.pa.us (Juan J. E. T. Noyles)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Questions with OS/2
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 22:14:50 GMT
Organization: The Noyles OS/2 Platform

lutz@solace.psych.rochester.edu writes in article <1992Sep8.213841.28560@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>:
> 
> In <Bu9x1M.5n9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan) writes:
> 
> 
> >- I have been having trouble closing DOS and OS/2 windows on the Desktop.  I
> >  type 'exit' at the prompt, and the title bar changes to "Closing:  DOS [OS/2]
> >  Window," but then does not close.  Double-clicking on the title-bar icon
> >  produces the appropriate waring (losing my data in the active session, etc.),
> 
>   I haven't seen this, but have a possible explanation.  Did you by any chance
> add /P to the command.com options for your DOS window?  The /P option on
> command.com makes the session permanent (ie you can type exit all you want and
> it won't really go away), which may make it impossible to close the window
> normally.
> 
>   This would only explain the problem if CMD.EXE has a similar option, and you
> used that as well.  I don't have an OS/2 system in front of me, so I can't
> check right now.

Actually, the solution to this is to change the settings for the window to "Close window
on exit".  Without this, the window can only be closed from the menu you get when
you press all (or click the mouse in the upper left corner of the window).
> 
> Dave Lutz
> lutz@psych.rochester.edu
> 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Win-os2 full screen -- does it share resources???
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:13:12 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep5.144206.18143@ugle.unit.no> hafting@Lise.Unit.NO (Helge Hafting) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.170717.17941@nmt.edu>, jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
> > I've got a question about win-os2 full screen. On my computer at work, I've
> > just got a VGA card, so I can run windoze apps through seemless windows.
> > It appeared to me that once OS/2 loaded it's seemless session of win-os2,
> > that when other windoze apps were started seemlessly, the win-os2 code was
> > used again (2 seconds to load an additional app vs. loading dos and win-os2
> > again, then loading the app).
> > 
> > On my computer at home, I've got an ATI ultra and I configured win-os2 to
> > a higher res, forcing me to run all windoze apps in full screen mode. My
> > question is this: Is there any way to make OS/2 re-use its win-os2/fullscreen
> > resources as described above in the seemless case? Every windoze app that I
> > open runs dos, then win-os2/fullscreen, then the app. That seems like a waste
> > of memory, disk thrashing and time.
>
>For each windows program, there is a setting specifying wether it will
>run in a separate windows session or not.

This setting only affects seamless Windows apps.  The check box is
grayed if the app is running in full-screen Windows mode.

>If changing this setting don't help, then try to start your additional
>windows apps from the win-os/2 desktop, don't start them from PM.

I always do this.  I have no Windows migrated to the desktop.  They're
all installed in the WIN-OS2 Program Manager, and I launch them from
there.  For testing them, I launch from the Windows 3.0 File Manager
(imported from my Windows 3.0 installation)
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From: x90farleigh1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2<->DOS Byte range locking?
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:24:41 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

I need to know if anyone has experirnce with byte range locking between two dos
sessions(VMDISK'd) and if it works properly.

I have two identical commercial applications that do a lock on portions of a
database (cc:Mail Gateway), and works very well with standalone PC's on a 
server based system. I am currently
getting random timeouts from one or the other application (for the most part
 the locks work) but sometimes I get a conflict, and knocks one session out.

The only clue I have is that I may not have enough CPU, and one session may be
leaving a lock on too long for the other application. If this is the case, will
the parameters that control TIMESLICE,etc. help?

(I have DOS SHARE loaded in each session as it is require by the app for obvius
reasons...)


Thanks for the comments ...


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Subject: Unix Windows (uw)
Originator: djs6015@ultb
Reply-To: djs6015@ultb.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Organization: R.I.T.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:13:32 GMT


Hi,
 I was wondering if anyone has heard of an OS/2 version of unix windows.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: panos@db.toronto.edu (Panos Economopoulos)
Subject: Re: Question about OS/2 and beta versions...
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:36:51 GMT

joiner@myria.cs.umn.edu (Jay K. Joiner) writes:

>In <1992Sep10.223648.45366@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG) writes:

>>I'm worried that my friend might have gotten a BETA version of OS/2 2.0. How
>>can I tell if it is BETA or GA? Does it say so on bootup? It does come on 21
>>disks...

>Type SYSLEVEL from an OS/2 prompt--GA is level 02000

When I first phoned IBM support (months ago, trying to install on 4Mb...)
I was worrying about the same thing - whether I, somehow, got a BETA version.
(You see, if I remember correctly, when you get a trap -- it's been quite
some time since the last one -- the message says, among other things:
"... internal revision 6.307 ...". So, naturally, one wonders)

They told me  to click on the desktop with the right mouse button.
If a dotted line appears around the whole screen then you do have
the GA version.

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From: greg@turbo.atl.ga.us (Greg Montgomery)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Little problems with OS/2 2.0
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:40:31 GMT
Reply-To: greg@turbo.atl.ga.us
Organization: Montgomery Consultants, Inc.

I just installed OS/2 2.0 on a friend's Gateway 486/33 and I'm having a
few problems with it:

1) - 123 for Windows no longer works. When I try to run it, it gives an
error message 'cannot find 123w.ini' and then exits. Do I need to copy
this file somewhere to get it to work?

2) - I would like to import the Windows program manager groups into the
OS/2 desktop. I thought you could do this during the installation, but
it did not work.

3) - How is ATM accessed? I didn't find an icon for it anywhere.

Thanks greatly!

Greg


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: brown-sh@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (shawn c brown)
Subject: OS2 documentation
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:37:11 GMT

	Can anyone tell me where I can get the Tips and Techniques and that
stuff???

Shawn Brown
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rda612c@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (js [schwobby])
Subject: New TSENG LABS drivers
Summary: new tseng labs drivers
Keywords: NEW TSENG LABS DRIVERS
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:31:33 GMT


I have a (little) problem with the new TSENG LABS DRIVERS from Hobbes.

My system:
386DX, genuine tseng labs card, Qume noninterlaced monitor.

I have NONE of the patches installed with respect to video. 
(I have the original vsvga, vvga, bhsvga etc.)



When I installed the new drivers, I had all the patches installed even
the one regarding the "black icon problem". (ORCHID DRIVERS)

When I first started OS2 with the new drivers (1024x768) the icons
were rather big on the desktop and in the windows.
So I set the small size icons and then I had some black icons and some normal
(small) icons. (even generic OS2 ones were black ........).

So i thought, to change the "black icon patches" to the original ones.
But the problem did not disappear.
(And I changed all other patches). I am still able to swap between
full and windowed DOS sessions, no problem here.

The drivers perform fine......


Except the icons are huge (like the ones in 640 mode).
So I changed to 800x600 and the icons were fine, but an amazing
flicker on the screen, so no help there.

The icon in the upper left corner of the windows is big too, but the
minimize/maximize icon on the right side stay small, leaving a gap in
the corner of the window.


ANY IDEA ??????????



regards
      schwobby



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: HELP: How to lie to MSCDEX.EXE
Keywords: CD-ROM, MSCDEX, DOS_VERSION
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:40:31 GMT

In article <6194@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero) writes:
>I'm trying to install a PROCOM CD-ROM (a funny bus Sony) on an OS/2
>system.  The device driver pcd650s.sys loads ok and doesn't complain,
>but mscdex.exe doesn't seem to respond to reasonable settings of
>DOS_VERSION.  It always reports "Incorrect DOS version", as if it was
>written to detect and not run under OS/2 (:-)).

The answer is in the FAQ List, although I could perhaps make it
clearer.

You need to use a specific DOS session.  See Appendix E of your
Installation Guide and/or the online Command Reference under VMDISK
for further information.

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: windows question
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:56:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.150254.15470@nosc.mil> medin@cod.nosc.mil (Ted Medin) writes:
> Got a new modem that came with a windows pgm. In testing the modem with
>the pgm the pgm mentioned a wordprocessor that comes with windows. Evidently
>ms windows comes with a couple of simple apps. All i seem to have with
>winos2 is the clock. Did i miss something?

No, the Windows applets (except for Clock) do not come with Win-OS/2.
You can get them from the Windows 3.0 diskettes or from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu via anonymous ftp -- look for the WLO applets.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet)
Subject: Speedstar 24 Drivers for OS/2 2.0
Summary: Any drivers for Speedstar 24?
Keywords: ET4000 Speedstar 24 Diamond 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:34:31 GMT

Hi!

I have a Speedstar 24 and am looking for drivers.  Diamond's support line
still says drivers for any of their products are unavailable.  I have tried
all tseng and et4000 drivers (which I believe are what the Speedstar 24 is
based on), but have syncing problems (pure garbage scrolling around) with
all of them.  I do have the new vsvga.sys.  I would like 24-bit or 256 color
drivers, but 16 in 1024x768 would be very acceptable.  Any rumours, help,
or ideas would be appreciated.

Jeff "Kaz" Kaczmarek (kaz@iastate.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Shredder is gone
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:30:24 GMT

In article <jdsmith.23.715963032@novell.com> jdsmith@novell.com (Doug Smith) writes:
>Last week, my OS/2 system crashed.  When I brought it back up, the shredder 
>icon was gone from my WPS.  I can't seem to figure out how to get it back.  
>Any ideas?

To restore your Shredder (or any other Workplace Shell object, really)
use either the WPSTools or the REXX script RECREATE (from IBM).  Both
are available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why disable shadow RAM?
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:28:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep11.202523.10922@ornl.gov> lio@ornl.gov (MILLION D L) writes:
>I read in the FAQ an offhand remark that one should disable shadow RAM
>for better OS/2 performance.  This was not explained, however, and I
>am still wondering why I should do this.  If the object is simply to
>retrieve more memory for OS/2, that doesn't work in my machine--that
>384K remains unavailable whether shadow RAM is disabled or not.  If 
>there is some other reason for disabling it, I'd sure like to hear it.

Nope, that's the reason.  To recover the memory that shadowing wastes.
Considering that OS/2 doesn't use the ROMs anyway (except for DOS
sessions, and it provides its own shadowing for that), to give up
memory to them is wasteful of precious resources.

If you don't gain any memory, leave shadowing on.  It probably won't
hurt anything.  I left it on on my system, since I didn't gain back
the 128K that was used, and the boot process was much faster with
shadowing on.


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From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM ("Kenneth A. Kahn")
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for OS/2
Date: 5 Sep 92 10:51:50 GMT

Organization: Staff of IBM Fellow - IBM Personal/370
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
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X-X-From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Kahn)
            <1992Sep4.230101.16689@njitgw.njit.edu>

In <1992Sep4.230101.16689@njitgw.njit.edu> David Charlap writes:
>In article <gershon.715551885@husc10> gershon@husc10.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:
>>>I think the IBM employee written SE20BOOT program that just floated
>>>across comp.binaries.os2 might do the trick for you.
>>
>>I am still playing with this program trying to get it to work.
>
>One thing that I noticed:  All the target disks must be formatted and
>erased before using them.  If the SE20BOOT program doesn't find enough
>space on the target, it fails with a cryptic warning that doesn't mean
>much.

This shouldn't be true.  SE20BOOT should detect if the disk is preformatted
or already has data on it and it should give you the option of formatting it.
What happens when you try to run it with a disk that is not formatted?  This
'cryptic' message, did it include some text that read (RC=112)?  If so this
is an OS/2 error code that means DISK_FULL.

Can I make a request that if you, or any one else, receives error messages
from this or other programs please report them.  It's hard to fix problems
if you don't supply all the relative information.  That's the reason the
error messages are given.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: 3 button/accelerated mouse drivers
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:46:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.053014.16816@muddcs.claremont.edu> ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Dulay) writes:
>Do mouse drivers for OS/2 exist which allow the use of all three buttons
>on a mouse or allow for mouse speed acceleration?  Are any in the works?

No to the first point.  The existing drivers already support speed
acceleration, so I'm not sure what you're driving at there.

I don't know how the mouse situation will evolve, but here's the
problem.  On the PC some systems have two mouse buttons, some have
three.  IBM was in a no win situation here.  If they designed their
driver to support all three buttons, software developers would start
writing with that third button in mind and people with just two mouse
buttons would find that they couldn't do certain things.  On the other
hand, if IBM put its foot down and said, "PCs shall have two mouse
buttons," then there's a common standard, and developers can expect
that everybody will have two mouse buttons and write accordingly.

We'll see what happens, though.

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