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From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (HRkvOi8PG.j3wPaul Spencer)
Subject: Re: Best roads, Southern Quebec
Keywords: Road, Quebec, South-East.
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:14:40 GMT

sproulx@bmtlh182.BNR.CA (Stephane Proulx) says:
> I am looking for advices on interesting roads in the
> southern quebec region for 1-2 days ride. 

All of the interesting roads in southern Quebec are in Vermont :-)

> I've already tried the 138 between Montreal and Trois Rivieres

138 is pretty boring. Too straight, too many small towns. (Although
it's supposedly nice up in the Baie Comeau region).

Try:

- 342, from Vaudreuil to Rigaud;

- 112, from Thetford Mines through Sherbrooke, Magog, to Granby. Nice
  scenery, especially around Black Lake and Eastman.

- Autoroute 15 (yes, believe it or not) is scenic AND twisty from about
  St. Sauveur to the northern end; then continue on 117 to St. Jovite,
  and beyond. As far as Grand Remous is nice, open sweepers; haven't gone
  further than that. 105 leads south from here to Hull; straighter and
  less interesting, but a good return route.

- 344, from Oka to Grenville, along the north shore of the Outaouis river,
  is a WONDERFUL road; twisty and deserted, with one extremely-straight
  section north of the Carillon dam on which you can go 155 MPH :-)

- 327, north from Lachute to St. Jovite;

- 329, north from Lachute for about 15 miles, where it turns to dirt. That
  15 miles is nice, though.

- there's a tiny back road from Calumet north through Kilmar that's worth it.
  Go west on 148 from Grenville (right across the river from Hawkesbury),
  and look for a right turn marked `Kilmar'. Take it north. There's a T
  junction at some point; turn right. This will eventually put you on 327;
  go north from here to St. Jovite.

- 323 from St. Jovite to Montebello is nice, but not as good as 327.

Further afield in Quebec:

- 155 north from Shawinigan. This follows the Maurice river to La Tuque,
  about an hour of good sweepers. (Avoid the city of Shawinigan; they hate
  bikers). A nice loop is 155 N to Lac St. Jean, then 169/175 back to 
  Quebec City, or any other return (381, 170, 172).

- 132 around Gaspe; it actually makes a loop, meeting in Mont Joli. The
  northern section is nicer, especially from St. Anne to Gaspe itself.

- route 299, which cuts across the Gaspe peninsula. 

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                  Silicon Graphics Advanced Systems Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
In-reply-to: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM's message of 29 Jul 1992 18:37:46 GMT
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
	<21642@sybase.sybase.com> <Bs2A73.638@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
	<SLAGLE.92Jul28232713@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com>
	<l7dpbqINNe47@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 06:39:47 GMT

In article <l7dpbqINNe47@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead]) writes:

> According to a number of investigative news reports (both national
> and local) the problem of hospitals turning away patients who
> aren't insured has become endemic in the US. It is apparently quite
> a common case for private hospitals to refuse a transport and have
> the individual sent to a state hospital. These are, of course, 
> all trauma cases of varying seriousness.

I have no doubt that some hospitals turn away some kinds
of "trauma" cases.  The guy said that they were letting
people die on the sidewalk, though, and that just isn't
so.  I have no doubt, for example, that an "emergency"
case consisting of somebody with a few bruises and a
broken leg would be refused at some private hospitals
in urban areas where there are alternative public hospitals
in the vicinity and the injuries are clearly not life
threatening.  It is likely that there have been some
cases where deaths have resulted from this sort of thing,
but that is not a matter of policy.  No hospital will
turn away an emergency case where the patients life is
in immediate jeopardy.  They can be held legally liable 
if they do.
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408-756-0895                                   USA
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:21:36 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 18546@drutx.ATT.COM, brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB) writes:
>
>	What in Ron's posting implied that the thought of "what the law
>	required him to do" ever even entered his mind?

How about the three or four times he complained that the woman was
"allowed" to ride at dusk(!) and without a helmet, but everybody who
stopped was "forced" to do so by law (which I seriously doubt, but I'm
not familiar with CO law)?

>	Ron's posting was mostly about the kind of emergency equipment he plans
>	to include in inventory so that he will be better prepared to help
>	accident victims in the future.

With a liberal dose of rambling about helmets and claiming those who
stopped to help were "inconvenienced" (duh!).

>	Witnessing
>	a bloody trauma in real life imposes an intense *cost* to the witness'
>	emotional well-being, even though the predominant thoughts are of
>	compassion for the victim. 

The first few times, true.

>	If I were to design society,

Which is why I thand God every day that I live in a society NOT
designed by demigods who have the audacity to think they know what is
best for everybody else.

>	Have you ever noticed that posters whose paths contain ".edu" often say
>	such *stupid* things???

No.  Stupidity abounds.


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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: rhodes@rogue.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Wanted: 198x KZ750
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:45:08 GMT

SF Bay area. Model with black paint and orange trim on tail section. 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:07:26 GMT

In article <14hchcINNlpi@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> >A Harley, is a Harley, is a Harley!  
> 
> Unless it's a Buell.


I don't know.  Brian's HD in Langhorne PA has a Buell on the floor and I
read in Hot Bike that they are being sold through HD dealers...

- Roid
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato)
Subject: Re: Rant, etc
Originator: mja@hercules
Reply-To: mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:48:27 GMT


In article <21754@sybase.sybase.com>, leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster) writes:
|> 
|> What do you all consider the minimum reasonable displacement for highway
|> riding?

Displacement is only part of the picture. Bike weight and aerodynamics also
play an important role (also center of gravity). My old 450 (or was it a 550)
two stroke (from bygone days) wasn't very good on the highway, but bikes have
changed _alot_ since then. I prefer at least a 750. My old 81 GS750 was great
on the highway. I then bought a V4 750 interceptor, which was great fun but
IMHO sucked for two up riding. This I attribute to the passenger seat position
and the bikes already high center of gravity. So then I got a great deal
on a left-over 83 GS1100. Now it's no where as nimble as the interceptor
but is a great two up platform. A 550 or 600 should have the power, but IMHO
are too light a platform for long range cruising. As can be seen from this post
I have only little experience with non JAP made bikes. I did swap my interceptor
with a buddy of mine's HD once (only for about an hour). I found it an interesting experience, but not my style.


What about the opion of those back from the RCR?


Anyone know where I can get a decent 3/4 frame mount faring (sp?)?
Several years ago I checked into one, but I had to but a new headlight
assembly.

DoD#0639
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: winter bike storage tips
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:37:04 GMT

jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:

>>Guess it's time for the annual "bike storage" thread.

>Um, correct me if I'm wrong here, but did I miss a few months or is it still 
>July?

You mean you can't feel the chill in the air? Heck, it dropped 10
degrees just from yesterday, from 102 clear down to 92 degrees. If
this keeps up, it will be down to freezing in less than a week!
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:15:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Jul21.175137.10679@linus.mitre.org>, cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
> In article <14h99bINNlpi@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
> >
> >Conversely, when I'm driving, I will notice potential threats, begin to
> >smoothly merge to avoid them, then 2 seconds later, Mom straight-arms
> >the dashboard and yells, "Look out for that car!"  I start looking for
> >some new car, and realize she just now saw the one I'm already dealing
> >with!
> >
> Is it just me, or does this make anyone else try to jump through the
> roof of their car??
> 
> Dean
> -- 

	Dean, I hate when your mom bugs me while driving.  Or while
we're _not_ driving! 









	Kevin Kretz
	DoD#3278
  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Subject: Re: My views of the RCR
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:42:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.205044.24763@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.174630.28490@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>>I hit the sack around 1:20-1:30am and woke with a splitting headache at about 
>>7:20am.
>
>Wait a minute, you bitched and moaned about how much of a wimp I was when I
>went to bed at 1:30.  You must have been up a while after that.

I was still awake at 2:00am, still hearing Roid in the background.

Jim
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: SECA II  Advice?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:32:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Jul29.225408.13900@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small) writes:
>In article <21672@sybase.sybase.com> alexb@sybase.com (Alex Burmester) writes:
>>Does anyone have a good reason not to get one of these?

>Major reason NOT to get one:
>Cliff Weston has one.

small, you magnificent bastard, you read my mind!

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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: DoD stuff reqd.
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:24:14 GMT

tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
: [...]
: >PS nobody answered my request for info about synthetic oil for my K100RS (sob)!
: 
: Sorry, never saw it. I use Mobil 1 (various viscosities, depending upon
: the time of year), and have for ~25k miles. No problems to report, in
: terms of leaks and so forth. Consumption remains the same (0). I
: change it every 3k miles along with the filter, my assumption being
: that it's cheap insurance.
: -- 
:  
:                 tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil


Thanks Tom, 

I just found out that my mate in Stuttgart uses the same for his FJ1200, his
dealer put it in by default.  The oil here in the yUK is very expensive but I
will splash out (!) and change my oil and filter, next month.  My bike is 
coming up to 60K so it deserves a wee pressy.  I might get the damage repaired
that my wife did when she left me, too.  Perhaps a nice paint job as well.
Have you any info about the fuel guage that you can get fitted to the K100RS? 
I get this spend-a-lot-of-money feeling sometimes.....

Nick            DoD 1069

42 ?

"Just another Britt in the wall"
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "cute" dealer names (Was: Combined dealerships)
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:55:16 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

>In article <1992Jul23.135830.26009@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

> How about dealer names? I like "Cycle Logical", and here in Utah there's
> one called "Big Boy's Toys", sexist perhaps, but truth in advertizing. :-)

I always kind of liked the name "Rice Cycle" in Rapid City.  It would have
been funnier if Don Rice sold Harleys instead of Hondas, though. 8-)
--

P.M. Smith
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Date: 23 Jul 1992 14:01:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 711838092@convex.convex.com, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>The question is, What is your Favorite Gear:
>
>Clearly FIRST Gear is the best gear. Are there any other opinions?

Second.  Without a doubt.  First revs too high, too fast.  First is
only good for squid wheelies off the line.  Second is the domain of the
power wheelie.  Second is the gear that slowly pushes your butt to the
back of the bike.  In second, you can hear/feel/watch the rpms climb
through the whole range.

I love second gear.

And third.  Third is nice in the twisties.  Third is where you gear
*way* down for that really tight curve.  Third is where you feel that
magical transition from loading down the forks braking in, to
lightening them up rolling on.  You come into third pretty high anyway,
engine braking, so it's already right in the sweet spot for pulling you
through the turn, leaned over to the ground.  It's low enough that in
*tight* curves, just rolling off brakes you for the next curve, and
when it's looser, you can scream it right up to redline, and pop her up
into fourth for that blast down the straight.

I love third gear.


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: what happened to indian
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:02:07 GMT
Organization: Bit Herders International

In article <owXNoB4w165w@tsoft.sf-bay.org> bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tejas Wood) writes:
+the originall indian co was absorbed by harley davidson

No it wasn't.  Indian went out of business.

+there is a new indian co startting in los angeles ca
+they will be reproductions of the old indians but will cost around
+$80 k (US) ack!

Associates in the Indian restoration business tell me that the guy
who now has the rights to the name is a rip off artist.  He is claiming
to be building bikes but won't let anyone see his "factory".  He is
selling rights to dealerships as: Pay $10k for an application & maybe
you will be a dealer... non-refundable.  Big scam.

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	"David rode in Triumph throughout the land"
		-- Biblical reference to motorcycles
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se (Alan Arthur)
Subject: FAQ list 
Organization: Ericsson Cellular Division
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:39:38 GMT


I'm a 'newbie', but I've been following the group for a good few weeks now.
Unfortunately I'm still trying to catch up on the 600 or so articles I'm behind 
8^). I cant seem to find the FAQ, and I dont fancy getting flamed to a cinder
the first time I try to post for real (hopefully I haven't made any hideous
mistakes here!). SO, could someone PLEASE post me the FAQ..


Thanx

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From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:13:55 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 18606@drutx.ATT.COM, brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB) writes:
>In article <14mf9gINNo9d@sixgun.East.Sun.COM+, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>+ 
>+ >	If I were to design society,
>+ 
>+ Which is why I thand God every day that I live in a society NOT
>+ designed by demigods who have the audacity to think they know what is
>+ best for everybody else.
>
>	Like the ones who have the audacity to believe they should suppress
>	the desire of nearly a hundred people to form a harley subgroup
>	because that is best for r.m. ?????

If you're refering to me,

1.  You're wrong.

2.  The creation of r.m.h is decided by a VOTE (you know, as in
     "democratic process?").  I have never stated a desire to "design
     USENET."


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Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: taylor@farm.rtp.dg.com (William Taylor)
Subject: 3 more mounting questions
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:37:21 GMT
Reply-To: taylor@rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

Thanks for the tire mounting advice!
Just a few more questions.

1) From the "authoritative answer on tire mounting"

>  8. Read the tire manufacturer's instructions to find the
>     light point on the tire.  Position the tire with the
>     light point at the valve stem hole.

   I got the tire in the mail - no instructions.  I've carefully read
   everything on the tire (Dunlop F11) but can't find anything that
   looks like a light point indication.

   (By the way, the tire is quite interesting, although the plot is a
   little thin.)

   Any tips as to what I might be looking for on the F11?

2) My old tire (Dunlop Qualifier) has a direction of rotation indication
   on the tire.  I don't see on on the new tire.  Am I missing it or do
   we not care about the direction with the new tires.

3) Do I need to worry about standing on the rim, including the inner portions,
   while I work the tire off/onto it?  The rim does not have spokes.
   I'm about 150 lbs.  (I thought of this question last night as I was
   standing on the rim ripping the old tire off.)

By the way, the garden hose worked fairly well as a rim protector.
Thanks for the suggestion.

And I've gotten one reply on wheel weights so far that said Dennis Kirk
carries them.

Regards,
Buddy Taylor            85 Honda Shadow VT500C      Data General
taylor@dg-rtp.dg.com    78 Yamaha DT175             Research Triangle Park, NC
From: jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Minimalistic biking-reply
Keywords: Necc. Switches
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:24:35 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <Jul.31.11.10.52.1992.23098@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum) writes:
>
>From egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) Tue Jul 28 17:13:48 1992
>Path: dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!rutgers!sun-barr!news2me.ebay.sun.com!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!sixgun.East.Sun.COM!laser!egreen
>
>>I know you're being sarcastic, but there is a complete school of
>>thought among motorcyclists that believes exactly that (with the
>>possible exception of the turn lights).  They would also remove the
>>tach, and the netural indicator, probably the speedometer/odometer if
>>legal.
>>How about it?  What is the minimum instrumentation or controls
>>necessary/desirable for a motorcycle?
>>You gadget-freaks, what is the benefit of a 747 cockpit on a bike?
>
>on the EX500 I have a left and right turnsignal light, that I like, I
>have never gotten used to just having one. (Pet Peve) I have a
>highbeam indicator which dosen't seem to be of much use on the bike,
>You can see it and I check to see that it is on every morning before
>the commute. Oil light - I would rather have an oil pressure gauge.
>Headlight out indicator, could come in handy since I commute every day
>It would let me know if the light goes out in the daytime so I can
>replace the bulb.  Tach and Speedo w/trip od.  necc. to stay out of
>the way of the troopers. Fuel guage not necc with a trip odometer and
>a res.
>


  I have to agree here.  I use my FJ for commuting as well as longer
  distance weekend day trips (usually >400 miles).  I find that I use
  every bit of information that the instrument cluster can deliver to 
  me.  Even though the speedo/odometer is 5% optimistic, I rely on
  it since 95 mph on an FJ can feel just like 65.  For commuting, I
  rely on the fuel gauge (which is accurate) since it's easy to loose
  track of miles since the last fill up.  I've gotten out of the habit
  of using the trip odo as a gas guage and instead use it for it's
  intended purpose.

  I enjoy the luxury of the clock in the cluster.  It allows me to remove
  my watch on longer trips, which can get a little tight under my leather
  jacket.

  As far as the idiot lights go.  I could do without the fuel warning light,
  it's especially annoying during night riding.

  What would I like to see added?  Both oil temperature and pressure guages
  and a headlight out indicator.  I'll be adding all these things myself
  before too long.

  Ride Well Informed,

  --Jeff


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|Jeff Earls  jearls@tekig6.pen.tek.com |     DoD #0530  KotTG  WMTC #0002     |
|'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon        |   Squid Factor: 3.67 and climbing... | 
|'86 VF500F - Igor!  It's _ALIVE_!!!!  | "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo |