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From: alan@metasoft.UUCP (Alan Epstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple Keyboard Wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:53:40 GMT
Followup-To: alan@metasoft.com
Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA


After some further research on the topic of Apple keyboards, I learned
that someone at Apple decided that the new Apple Keyboard II would be
a better layout than the previous model, and that all new keyboards sold
would be of the 'II' model (this is the one where CAPS LOCK is left of
the 'A' key and double sized).

I would like to obtain an original Apple Keyboard (the one with the
CONTROL key to the left of the 'A') through swap or purchase,
and wonder if anyone has an idea where I might do this.

-alan

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Alan Epstein
Meta Software Corp		 Internet:  alan@metasoft.com
125 Cambridgepark Dr
Cambridge, MA 02140  USA	      
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From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: TIME TO IBM??? Plus No Good No More
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:10:57 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Sep15.105610.21861@kth.se> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), f91-gal@nada.kth.se (Goeran Alterland) writes:
> Being a longtime user of a MacPlus I now consider upgrading it
> or, more likely, to move to the PC-world. Before making such an
> horrible decision (moving to PC that is) I would appriciate if any
> fellow MacNetter could tell me what - and if thre are - ways to 
> accomplish the following requirements on the Plus, while still 
> fitting in the <1000 USD space that a brand new 486dx33 would cost:
> 
> 68030 action - at least 16 Mhz
> 
> System 7 compability
> 
> FPU 
> 
> At least 8 Mb attachable ram - but rather more
> 
> Is thre a product which could deliver all of this? 

How about a used Mac IIcx.  Should be available for under $1000.

Also, before purchasing a hot '486 for under $1000 make sure you are
getting a complete system.  Check for a decient monitor (many cheap
PC monitors are fuzzy), System software, and a decient disk (many cheapo
clones use very slow hard disks).

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From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LC video RAM upgrade
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:12:53 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <61.2aaa7d3d@ivgate>, Leonard.Short@macrocosm.omahug.org (Leonard Short) writes:
> 
>   MJ> (From: Mark.J..Sisson@p842.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mark J. Sisson))
>   MJ> 
>   MJ> 
>   SH> I have an LC with "256k video RAM, upgradable to 512k" as quoted by
>   SH> the "Features" pamphlet that came with my LC. Do I needa special board
>   SH> or anything additional, or can I go out an buy the 512k RAM and plug
>   SH> it right in? Thanks. hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (scott hudziak)
>   SH> 
>   LS> 
>   LS> It is just a special SIMM. You just buy the 512k SIMM. Remove the 256k
>   LS> SIMM and snap in the 512k. The SIMMs cost about $50 from the Chip
>   LS> Merchant. It has been my experiance that the new video ram will slow
>   LS> down the computer somewhat. Also quite a few programs will display 256
>   LS> colors at most so unless you are doing something that needs 16 bit
>   LS> color, you will be giving up some speed and getting questionable
>   LS> benifits.
>   MJ> I do not think that the 512K VRAM SLOWS the computer down at ALL! The
>   MJ> whole idea behind a separate VRAM is that it does NOT intrude on the
>   MJ> RAM that you have installed to deal with applications! Unless you
>   MJ> haave some knowledge that no one else in the Mac world has....I think
>   MJ> you're coming up Short on the facts.
>   
> I do not know why the extra Vram slows down my computer. I do know that before
> I installed the Vram my LCII tested about 4.25 times as fast as a Classic using
> Speedometer. I installed the Vram and since then the best test I've gotten
> using the same program is about 3.35 times as fast as a Classic. It could be
> something wrong with my using of the progarm or somthing wrong with the testing
> program. I do know that I've run the test repetedly and gotten the same
> results. It doesn't seem to matter weather I have the color set for 8 bit or 16
> bit.


Has anybody suggested the obvious yet?  Namely, that the greater the 
number of colors you display (at a constant monitor resolution), the 
slower things get because there is more info. It has NOTHING to do 
with VRAM, but with the pixel depth.
	If you set the monitor at a lower pixel depth, this almost 
invariably explains the difference. (lower = faster; smaller screen = 
faster, too).

				Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rhorn@csws6.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: hard drive won't boot w/ Sys 7, sad mac
Originator: rhorn@csws6.ic.sunysb.edu
Keywords: Scuzzy little classic
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook, where no one gets an education
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:59:37 GMT


The internal hard drive of my Classic 4/40 refuses to boot
with system 7.0.1, and instead gives an assortment of happy macs
and questionable disks (the disks with the ? in it, not disks
which are of themselves questionable in some manner) and
finally a sad mac with the sad mac code of:

	00000063
	0000000F

It will, however, boot quite happily with system 6.0.7, and I
can boot from my external hard drive (Quantum 105) with 
a copy of the very same system 7.0.1, so I doubt that it's
a corrupted system file (yes I'm properly deblessing the 
system 6.0.7 (removing it completely has no effect), I've 
reformatted the drive both with the Apple HD Set Up and with 
ETC Tools, and as soon as I can possibly get some high density
disks in this godforsaken backwater community I'll try a fresh
clean copy of system 7.0.1)

From the sad mac I assume that this is probably some sort of
hardware error. Does anyone know just what exactly this 
particular sad mac code is supposed to mean? I didn't see it
in the list of sad mac codes in the back of the macsbug guide.

Thanks for any help,
Robb

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From: andyp@treehouse.UUCP (Andy Peterman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 16" APPLE Monitor problem
Date: 5 Sep 92 07:31:04 GMT
Organization: The Treehouse

In article <a-kraus-030992142909@pesa.physics.uiuc.edu> a-kraus@uiuc.edu 
(Albert L. Kraus) writes:
>Hi!
>When I trun the contrast control all the way up the right border of all
>windows turns green and something like a long shadow smear appears also on
>the right window side.
>I talked to an Apple hardware support rep and he said it can't be 
adjusted.
>I install gamma into my system and moved the green gamma 1/2 inch lower.
>This seems to fix most of the problem. My question:
>Is there a way to get the problem fixed without using gamma in the system?
>Should it be fixed!

YES, it should be fixed.  I just spent 6 months trying to get Apple to help
me with a problem I was having with a blue tint on my Apple 16" monitor.  I
finally got help from a tech at one of the computer stores who ordered a 
new "Video/CRT" module (a PC board in a metal box that literally plugs into
the CRT) and it fixed the problem.  He had to go throught the entire 
alignment procedure to get the new module calibrated, which took a couple 
of hours.  During this process, we had a similar problem - too much green 
drive.  We found a switch on the module (not documented anywhere in the 
offical Apple service information) that fixed the problem when moved to the
other position.

Anyway, if you have a friendly Apple Service shop near you, just show them
(or tell them about) the problem and have it fixed under warranty.  The
video module contains ALL the active circuitry between the video cable and
CRT, so replacing it should do the problem if they can't otherwise adjust
it.
-- 
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treehouse!andyp@gvgpsa.gvg.tek.com  
(916) 273-4569
From: howarth@rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: deactivating the internal screen
Date: 15 Sep 1992 16:37:27 GMT


  I am using a Mac SE/30 with a Xceed Macro Color 30 24-bit color card and
a Sony 1304S monitor. I have the external monitor set as the system and menu
display from the Monitors CP. However, I still have the 9 inch screen attached
to the desktop so that the mouse can disappear of the edge of my external
screen. I keep the 9 inch display turned all the way down and would like to
disable it so that the Mac after startup ignores it and the mouse stays
with the boundaries of the external monitor. How is that done. Please e-mail
any responses. Thanks
               Jack

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From: tmcg@blueline.Corp.Sun.COM (Tom McGinn - 65507)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,sun.mac-users,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Maximum memory for a IIsi
Followup-To: none
Date: 9 Sep 1992 16:32:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: blueline.corp.sun.com
Keywords: memory, IIsi

As promised, I said I would post the results of my question
regarding the maximum amount of memory one can have in a
IIsi.

The IIsi has 4 slots for SIMMS, and as long as they fit in
the case, there is no limit on the size of the SIMMS that
one can add.  Of course, you do need System 7 to access any 
memory beyond 8Mb.  One Mb is soldered on the mother-board, so
for the given SIMMS sizes you get:

1Mb  =   5Mb total
2Mb  =   9Mb total
4Mb  =   17Mb total
8Mb  =   33Mb total
16Mb =   65Mb total

Most of you were good enough to point out that while the size
of the SIMMS may not be prohibitive, the cost surely can be:

SIMM     Price per Mb    Total cost for upgrade
4Mb         ~$25            ~$400
8Mb         ~$40 !!!        ~$1300
16Mb        ~$29            ~$1850

Why 8Mb SIMMS are 1.5 times the price of the 4 is a mystery to me,
unless the process is just that expensive.

Thanks to all who responded -

Tom McGinn
Sun Microsystems
Interactive Media Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: davecole@cie.uoregon.edu.uoregon.edu (Dave Cole)
Subject: Re: Apple AUI pinout?
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:20:02 GMT

  While you are at it, can you post the pinouts for the printer port on a Plus?
Thanks,
Dave


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP! Apple wont give back disks.
From: Mike_Diack@kcbbs.gen.nz (Mike Diack)
Date: 7 Sep 92 13:28:00 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

The old mac drives all get a bit disc retentive as the years roll on.
You have to reasonably happy with dismantling and reassembling small 
delicate machinery to try this , bit it works. The sticking problem 
is caused by the grease-type lubricant on the sliding metal surfaces 
going all stiff and er... nonsliding. The trick is to pull the whole 
disc carriage assembly apart, wash the grease off with a good solvent
(i use acetone - take great care with it) , relubricate with a smear 
of fresh grease (ONLY a smear). Reassemble, and its good for another 
100,000 miles.
cheers, Mike.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jonas@isy.liu.se (Jonas Wallberg)
Subject: Re: iisi at 25 MHz
Organization: Dept of EE, University of Linkoping
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:24:13 GMT

hyongel@cco.caltech.edu (Hyong Chol Lee) writes:

>Howdy. I recently posted for any information on hopping a iisi to 25 MHz by
>swapping the processor clock on the motherboard. I got some email on it,
(things deleted)

Is it possible to run a SE/30 on 20MHz, or maybe even on 25MHz ?
The SE/30 where built for performance so why not?

-- 
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Dept of Electrical Engineering  ! TEL:	    +46 13 281326
Linkoping University		! TELEFAX:  +46 13 139282
S-581 83 Linkoping SWEDEN
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 11:32:50 EDT
From: <3XMQGAA@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Need info on scanners for large documents.

   Hi, I need info on scanners that are capable
of scanning 24" x 36" documents (Blueprints).
It does not have to be flatbed, or color, but
just big enough. If anyone has any information,
please send e-mail. Thank You


--Sari Khoury -- Central Michigan University
From: newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Daystar Powercache (need info...)
Date: 13 Sep 1992 23:16:25 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: mohawk.cs.utexas.edu

> I expect that the 33mhz '040 PowerCache due out soon will beat the
> Quadra 700 and 900 on the Math and CPU related stuff, and be very
> close to (possibly even ahead of) the Quadra 950 in these areas.  The
> 16-bit data path of the LC II has very little effect once you go to an
> external cache. 

I wonder.  Just how much cache memory comes with with Daystar
PowerCaches?  One problem with with small benchmarks like those built
into speedometer is that they tend to fit entirely within even fairly
modest caches.  Things might be a bit different with production sized
apps, depending on their locality.  It would be interesting to do some
timings with larger programs.
-- 
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Peter Newton (newton@cs.utexas.edu)
From: rharmon@highz.as.arizona.edu (Robin Harmon (ircamera))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: cheap powerbook 100's
Summary: Phone numbers of Micro Center and Micro Age?
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:01:09 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

In <duff.715974918@starbase> Dave Duff says that Micro Age and Micro Center
in Virginia have PB 100 2/20's fr sale. Does anyone know if they
supply out of state by credit card and if so what are their phone numbers?

Robin Harmon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: probert@fires1.uucp (Neal W. Probert)
Subject: I would like to find an external peripheral box for tape drive
Reply-To: probert@fires1.srl.ford.com
Organization: Scientific Research Labs, Ford Motor Company
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:51:43 GMT

I have an Archive 60Mb full height SCSI tape drive and I want to use
it with my Mac II.  Would anybody know where I can pick up a nice box
to put it in?  The external box should have a power supply and cabling.
I can supply the cable from the Mac and the terminator.

Thanks.

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From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE to SE/30: Worth It?
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:44:53 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BuDpMG.239@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>silvers3@husc9.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:
>
>>I'm considering upgrading my Mac SE 4/40 to an SE/30 ($799 + $35
>>installation = SE/30 5/40 in college student mathematics). Is it
>>worth doing this rather than buying a new LC II or II si or one
>>of their successors this fall, both in terms of price and future
>>utility? At some point in the future, for example, I might want to
>>add a color monitor; would the fact that I would need a card for the
>I think it is well worth it since the SE/30 is considerably faster than
>an LCII and even a little faster than the IIsi.  On the other hand the 
>SE/30 is no longer made so unless you have a warranty with the upgrade
>you may not want to do it.  The IIsi is slower than dirt unless you
>put a card in it anyway so I don't think you're losing anything by
>putting a card in the SE/30 for color.

   I have an SE/30 + 8 bit vid card, and would not trade it for
a LCII.  You'd also have to make me a pretty good offer to sell me
a IIsi.  Unless you plan to do something that requires a few
nubus slots (multimedia, etc) the SE/30 is comprable to the IIci
(yes with the cache card it's faster, but for 90% of everything
that extra speed is unnecessary), and the IIci goes for roughly
$3k, academic prices.  The upgrade looks like a good deal to me...

                     Nick


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From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Daystar Powercache (need info...)
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:55:50 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1913mpINNfvb@mohawk.cs.utexas.edu>, newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton) writes:
>> I expect that the 33mhz '040 PowerCache due out soon will beat the
>> Quadra 700 and 900 on the Math and CPU related stuff, and be very
>> close to (possibly even ahead of) the Quadra 950 in these areas.  The
>> 16-bit data path of the LC II has very little effect once you go to an
>> external cache. 
> 
> I wonder.  Just how much cache memory comes with with Daystar
> PowerCaches?  One problem with with small benchmarks like those built
> into speedometer is that they tend to fit entirely within even fairly
> modest caches.  Things might be a bit different with production sized
> apps, depending on their locality.  It would be interesting to do some
> timings with larger programs.
> -- 


The PowerCaches have only 32K of fast RAM for the cache. Most 
benchmarks I have seen have not found significant difference using 
this amount versus a larger amount (up to 128K).
	Whether the benchmarks themselves can fit entirely into 32K, 
I have no idea. Certainly, today this doesn't seem like very much 
room at all, even if it is sufficient as a cache.

			Jon
From: cf043@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lance K. Chun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Carrying case for PowerBook 100?
Date: 12 Sep 1992 23:39:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf043@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lance K. Chun)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, collin@angelo.amd.com (Collin K. Ong) says:

>amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes:
>
>>I'm using a Kensington case for my 100, and it seems to work just fine.
>>The divider between the big & little compartments is attached with velcro, so 
>>you can move it over a bit to make it nice and snug.  It carries a PB100, 
>>extra battery, charger, AC adaptor, & floppy drive, with enough room for a
>>handful of disks, papers, etc.  It's a bit of a close fit, especially with 
>>the floppy, extra battery, charger, and AC adaptor all over on one side, but 
>>it works.
>
>Is this the bigger case or the smaller model they have.  I think they call
>it Deluxe and compact or something to that effect.  Which are you 
>describing?
>
>Thanks
>



If you have the Kensington Compact case, then could you please 
tell us if the sides of the case are padded well? By sides I don't mean the
cover or the bottom of the case, but rather the narrow sides of the case.I
saw a similar Canon case, but the sides were quite think so I didn't get it
because I wanted to get the Kensington case, but if they are the same case, than
I'll go ahead and get the Canon case--same case butlower price for Canon.
 
Lance

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: awolfe@moo.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Wolfe)
Subject: Re: powerbook battery lif
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:58:09 GMT

In article <5167@gold.gvg.tek.com>, bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (Bryan Hilterbrand) writes:
|> In article <laogtlINNab3@nada.cs.utexas.edu> benkei@cs.utexas.edu (William Kent Richards) writes:
|> 
|> In my manual, they say to NEVER completely drain a PB100's battery.  It
|> damages the lead-acid batteries to drain them all the way, and they
|> won't hold a charge as well after that.
|> 
|> They also say to completely drain the PB140 and PB170's memory once a
|> month (or so).  They claim that it aids the lithium batteries, and they
|> will hold a charge better if you do this.
|> 
|> By the way -- THIS IS FROM MEMORY; check your own manual before doing
                 --------------------
|> any of this!!
|> 
...
|> 
|> Bryan
|> 
|> 
|> Bryan Hilterbrand      bryanh@stout.GVG.TEK.COM  |     /\  /\
|> Grass Valley Group, Production Systems Division  |  __/ G\/G \__

Need to work on that memory a bit :-)

The PB100 uses Silver-Hydride batteries.  The others use Nickel-Cadmium.
-- 
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Princeton University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: mmarx@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Matthew Marx)
Subject: you'll laugh at this...
Summary: how much profit?
Keywords: Powerbook 100
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:12:11 GMT

Found this tidbit from the price list in an original press release
concerning the (then) brand-new Powerbook line of computers:

	PowerBook 100 2MB RAM/20MB Hard Disk    $2,499  
                                                ^^^^^^

Kinda makes you wonder how much profit Apple was making off of these
machines, given that they're dumping them for as low as ~$700 these
days. :> For that money you can get a 145 4/80 and a Stylewriter to boot.


-- 
Matt Marx     mmarx@csli.stanford.edu           
No News (is bad news)
No mail for mmarx (is worse)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jona@ils.nwu.edu (Kemi Jona)
Subject: Impedence levels for sound ports (Q)
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:15:32 GMT

What are the impedence levels for the microphone jack (on newer Macs) and
the speaker jack on the Mac?

How does one go about recording line-level inputs (e.g. from a stereo) thru
the mic jack on the mac (which I take to be at a different impedence
level)?

Any info appreciated,


--Kemi

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rperry@uswat.uswest.com (Roy Perry)
Subject: Wanted: Touch Screen Recommendations
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: US WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:05:20 GMT

I am looking for recommendations for a durable, inexpensive touch screen
for a simple Hypercard-based public kiosk application. Even better, a
complete, prebuilt kiosk, built to house a Mac SE or Mac II w/ monitor,
would be great.

I apologize if this is a FAQ, or if there is a better group for this
subject, kindly redirect me, with my thanks. Please feel free to respond
via email.

Roy Perry --------> rperry@atqm.advtech.uswest.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware