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From: czl30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Don't believe anything you hear
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:49:36 GMT
Reply-To: czl30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <Bx7ACM.27A@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> @expert.cc.purdue.edu (adamsma@expert.cc.purdue.edu) writes:
>Okay, so you're an athiest.  Don't believe in any God, Devil, angels, demons,
>good, evil.  Don't believe in any higher authority then yourself.  That's
>you right as a human being.  However, your lack of belief doesn't change God's
>infinite love, power, or being.  It doesn't change the fact that Jesus, the 
>Son of God, died in a horrible fashion to save you from your sins.  It doesn't
>change the fact that Jesus was raised from the dead and now reigns in Heaven 
>at the right hand of God.  It doesn't change the fact that you can have 
>salvation and eternal life by accepting Him as your personnal savior.  Don't 
>believe.  It doesn't change anything.

What purpose does your posting this achieve? What FACT that you think
that somebody called Jesus existed? FIRST PROVE THIS. The son of god?
ALSO PROVE THIS. Raised from the dead? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH. Salvation?
Eternal life? DON'T TALK RUBBISH.

UNTIL YOU CAN BACK UP YOUR UNSUPPORTED ASSERTIONS THEY ARE JUST FIGMENTS
OF YOUR DELUDED IMAGINATION.

>
>Sincerely, 
>
>Mark    

Look, Mark, why didn't you try substituting another deity or the son of
another deity in your argument, and read it to see if it made any sense
at all to you, before posting such drivel. Your god is NOT a fact. It
is an opinion, so your posting is on the same level as the jerks who shout
their delusions in shopping malls or on street corners.

What would your reaction be if I were to post equally stupid unsupported
assertions about, say Allah, on your favourite religious board?

Chris Lee
From: 00prneubauer@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Paul Neubauer)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Reader's Digest on prayer: amusing, or scary?
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:50:20 GMT
Organization: Ball State U.

In article <1992Nov5.160855.20757@digi.lonestar.org>, 
 gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes:
> I find it ironic that the atheists, materialists, and free thinkers , those
> who advocate diversity of thought, are always the first to insist on
> uniform education for all, whereas most religious people are only interested
> in being allowed freedom to choose their own schools.  The only exceptions
> seem to be with Libertarians, many of whom are atheists.  They at least
> recognize that an environment of freedom is essential for truth to prevail.
> To repeat my warning, the curricula of public schools may suit your beliefs
> today, but the state that promotes atheism or theistic neutrality as the
> rule today can just as easily change tomorrow.  And when it does, it changes
> for everyone. If religion is so self evidently foolish and materialism-
> atheism is so self evidently true, why is there so much fear of diversity 
> and free choice in education?

I don't pretend to speak for anyone but myself, but I am one who does
strongly advocate diversity of thought and, particularly, exposure to
diversity of thought.  This is, in fact the principle reason why I
favor the concept of public education.  

While I am personally aware of a number of children attending schools
run by religious groups to which neither they nor their parents
belong, I am also aware that these individuals are the exception
rather than the rule.  That is, in my (admittedly limited) experience,
religious or other special-interest schools tend to promote
homogeneity rather than diversity *within* the school.  That is, it
tends to be the case that virtually all of the students in such a
school are Catholic, or evangelical Protestant, or white, or wealthy,
or whatever.  I do not consider that desirable.

-- 
Paul Neubauer   00prneubauer@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu  00prneubauer@bsuvax1.BITNET
                00prneubauer@bsu-ucs.UUCP       neubauer@bsu-cs.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
From: hbcs1010@blurt.oswego.edu
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: re: morality
Date: 4 Nov 92 12:43:41 GMT
Organization: SUNY College at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Nov02.195239.8940@bnr.ca>, bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash) writes:
> From: hbcs1010@blurt.oswego.edu
>> |>when the tao is lost, there is goodness.
>> |>when goodness is lost, there is morality.
> (Me)
>> Let's see.  According to that, "goodness" > "morality".
>> How is goodness different than morality?  I put these in 
>> the same pot. (The Tao is the Way, a specific path of
>> goodness; so I can see how they can say "tao" > "goodness")
> 
> |>okay, as far as i can figure, "goodness" seems to refer to actions which flow
> |>naturally from the core of one's being, whereas "morality" seems to be an
> |>imposed set of behavioral expectations. the whole point of taoism being that
> |>one  acts from one's center. i think. i could be wrong.
> |>-diedre hauptfuehrer
> 
> So maybe "morality" is better translated as "law"?
> So internal law > external law?  I can buy that.
> So how is the Tao figured in?  Isn't that external?
> 
> Brian /-|-\
> 
> (P.S.  This is a CS101 trap.  I am an AI program. ;^} )



again, as far as i can figure, the tao is an immanent life-force type of thing:
present in all things whether they're alive or not (as opposed to most
religions' concept of god as a separate and distant being). if that's correct,
then the tao is not external, but internal, as an essential part of one's
being. it's sort of similar to the hindu atman-brahman. i think.

-diedre hauptfuehrer

there's a hell of a universe next door- let's go!
                                                 -e.e. cummings
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
From: glenn.alldis@human.utas.edu.au (Glenn Alldis)
Subject: Re: possibly a stupid question.
Organization: Archetype Publishing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:30:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.211152.759@blurt.oswego.edu>, hbcs1010@blurt.oswego.edu writes:
> 
stuff deleted
> 
>  why would a being of such indescribable power, capable of creating the
> universe in its infinite majesty, turn around and throw a hissy fit if some
> poor slob of a human doesn't believe in it? why would any such putative
> being *CARE*? face it, guys, we would be to such a being as a microbe is to us.
> personally, i would tend to think that such a being would have much more
> interesting things to do than to go around peeking through people's windows, or
> whatever.
> 
>  anyone else have an opinion? am i inviting a major flame-fest?

If the xian's God does exist, there is no reason (or *evidence* for that 
matter) to assume it conforms to human standards of justice or sanity. :)

glenn
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: 28th passes with all of us unharmed. No surprise.
Date: 29 Oct 92 10:41:22 +0930
Organization: That damn kid is still here!
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au
Originator: daemon@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au

Yet another failed rapture day has passed us by, I wonder why...

It was cool watching Good Morning Australia today, they payed
the idiots out something good!

"Eet whaz ahnudaa incurrict predictshaahn" spouts Korean
pastor. Outside, the cameras whirred on as idiots in anti
bar-code T shirts poured in to the members only rapture club
site where it was said the believers would disappear, supposedly
in their way up to heaven.

As longs as these idiots don't take guns to our heads, we
ought to keep watch coz it's great entertainment!
-- 
John J McVey, Whyalla, Uni S. Australia    9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Electronic Engineering student & Terror Tekkie!
Any email can be posted unless I state explicitly otherwise.
+-----------------------------------------------------+    ________
|  Obligatory disclaimer: UniSA hates my opinions...  |  \/Darwin o\
+-----------------------------------------------------+  /\________/
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. Marquis
#! rnews 2488
From: 9138827a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Telecommuters, Remote Workers
Date: 29 Oct 92 14:02:10 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

This item has been cross-posted to misc.jobs.contract and misc.jobs.misc

I am undertaking postgraduate study at the School of Library and
Information Management, University of South Australia, Adelaide, on
the particular information needs of telecommuters - those who perform
job-related work at a site away from an organisation and communicate
electronically rather than commuting physically.
 
I would be very interested in, and would greatly appreciate a response
from those who are telecommuters, to the following questions. If you
are not a telecommuter but know of others who are it would be
appreciated if you could pass this on to them:
 
 
Q1      Does the organisation to which you telecommute provide any
        library and information services which are accessible to you
        online? (eg catalogs, reference assistance, databases, literature
        searches, document delivery services, organisation information
        such as daily bulletins and administrative gazettes.)
 
        If yes:
 
        (a) What services are provided?
        (b) How useful are these services to you?
 
Q2      (a)     What is the nature of the organisation to which you
                telecommute?
 
        (b)     If you sometimes commute physically to your organisation,
                how frequently do you do this?
 
Q3      What are the particular information needs that you have as a
        telecommuter?
 
Q4      What basic information services do you consider should be
        provided by an organisation for its telecommuters? (see Q5 for
        additional and desirable services)
 
Q5      What additional information services would you perceive as being
        highly desirable for an organisation to provide for its
        telecommuters?
 
Q6      Are there any further comments you wish to make regarding the
        information needs of telecommuters?
 
Q7      Would you like a summary of the results of this survey E-mailed
        to you?
 
Respondents can be assured that individuals and organisations will not
be identified in any report or summary of this survey.
 
Please E-mail your response to my Internet address:
 
9138827a@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
 
Thank you for your cooperation
 
Bronwen Strong

#! rnews 2557
From: 9138827a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Telecommuters, Remote Workers
Date: 29 Oct 92 14:08:15 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

This item has been cross-posted to misc.jobs.contract and misc.rural
====================================================================

I am undertaking postgraduate study at the School of Library and
Information Management, University of South Australia, Adelaide, on
the particular information needs of telecommuters - those who perform
job-related work at a site away from an organisation and communicate
electronically rather than commuting physically.
 
I would be very interested in, and would greatly appreciate a response
from those who are telecommuters, to the following questions. If you
are not a telecommuter but know of others who are it would be
appreciated if you could pass this on to them:
 
 
Q1      Does the organisation to which you telecommute provide any
        library and information services which are accessible to you
        online? (eg catalogs, reference assistance, databases, literature
        searches, document delivery services, organisation information
        such as daily bulletins and administrative gazettes.)
 
        If yes:
 
        (a) What services are provided?
        (b) How useful are these services to you?
 
Q2      (a)     What is the nature of the organisation to which you
                telecommute?
 
        (b)     If you sometimes commute physically to your organisation,
                how frequently do you do this?
 
Q3      What are the particular information needs that you have as a
        telecommuter?
 
Q4      What basic information services do you consider should be
        provided by an organisation for its telecommuters? (see Q5 for
        additional and desirable services)
 
Q5      What additional information services would you perceive as being
        highly desirable for an organisation to provide for its
        telecommuters?
 
Q6      Are there any further comments you wish to make regarding the
        information needs of telecommuters?
 
Q7      Would you like a summary of the results of this survey E-mailed
        to you?
 
Respondents can be assured that individuals and organisations will not
be identified in any report or summary of this survey.
 
Please E-mail your response to my Internet address:
 
9138827a@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
 
Thank you for your cooperation
 
Bronwen Strong

#! rnews 2549
From: 9138827a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Telecommuters, Remote Wor
Date: 29 Oct 92 14:11:21 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

This item has been cross-posted to misc.jobs.misc and misc.rural
================================================================

I am undertaking postgraduate study at the School of Library and
Information Management, University of South Australia, Adelaide, on
the particular information needs of telecommuters - those who perform
job-related work at a site away from an organisation and communicate
electronically rather than commuting physically.
 
I would be very interested in, and would greatly appreciate a response
from those who are telecommuters, to the following questions. If you
are not a telecommuter but know of others who are it would be
appreciated if you could pass this on to them:
 
 
Q1      Does the organisation to which you telecommute provide any
        library and information services which are accessible to you
        online? (eg catalogs, reference assistance, databases, literature
        searches, document delivery services, organisation information
        such as daily bulletins and administrative gazettes.)
 
        If yes:
 
        (a) What services are provided?
        (b) How useful are these services to you?
 
Q2      (a)     What is the nature of the organisation to which you
                telecommute?
 
        (b)     If you sometimes commute physically to your organisation,
                how frequently do you do this?
 
Q3      What are the particular information needs that you have as a
        telecommuter?
 
Q4      What basic information services do you consider should be
        provided by an organisation for its telecommuters? (see Q5 for
        additional and desirable services)
 
Q5      What additional information services would you perceive as being
        highly desirable for an organisation to provide for its
        telecommuters?
 
Q6      Are there any further comments you wish to make regarding the
        information needs of telecommuters?
 
Q7      Would you like a summary of the results of this survey E-mailed
        to you?
 
Respondents can be assured that individuals and organisations will not
be identified in any report or summary of this survey.
 
Please E-mail your response to my Internet address:
 
9138827a@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
 
Thank you for your cooperation
 
Bronwen Strong

#! rnews 2586
From: 9138827a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Telecommuters, Remote Workers
Date: 29 Oct 92 14:20:11 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

This item has been cross-posted to misc.jobs.contract,  misc.jobs.misc
and misc.rural
======================================================================

I am undertaking postgraduate study at the School of Library and
Information Management, University of South Australia, Adelaide, on
the particular information needs of telecommuters - those who perform
job-related work at a site away from an organisation and communicate
electronically rather than commuting physically.
 
I would be very interested in, and would greatly appreciate a response
from those who are telecommuters, to the following questions. If you
are not a telecommuter but know of others who are it would be
appreciated if you could pass this on to them:
 
 
Q1      Does the organisation to which you telecommute provide any
        library and information services which are accessible to you
        online? (eg catalogs, reference assistance, databases, literature
        searches, document delivery services, organisation information
        such as daily bulletins and administrative gazettes.)
 
        If yes:
 
        (a) What services are provided?
        (b) How useful are these services to you?
 
Q2      (a)     What is the nature of the organisation to which you
                telecommute?
 
        (b)     If you sometimes commute physically to your organisation,
                how frequently do you do this?
 
Q3      What are the particular information needs that you have as a
        telecommuter?
 
Q4      What basic information services do you consider should be
        provided by an organisation for its telecommuters? (see Q5 for
        additional and desirable services)
 
Q5      What additional information services would you perceive as being
        highly desirable for an organisation to provide for its
        telecommuters?
 
Q6      Are there any further comments you wish to make regarding the
        information needs of telecommuters?
 
Q7      Would you like a summary of the results of this survey E-mailed
        to you?
 
Respondents can be assured that individuals and organisations will not
be identified in any report or summary of this survey.
 
Please E-mail your response to my Internet address:
 
9138827a@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
 
Thank you for your cooperation
 
Bronwen Strong

#! rnews 2597
From: 9138827a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: Telecommuters, Remote Workers
Date: 29 Oct 92 14:35:19 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

This item has been cross-posted to misc.jobs.contract,  misc.jobs.misc
misc.rural and alt.business.multi-level
======================================================================

I am undertaking postgraduate study at the School of Library and
Information Management, University of South Australia, Adelaide, on
the particular information needs of telecommuters - those who perform
job-related work at a site away from an organisation and communicate
electronically rather than commuting physically.
 
I would be very interested in, and would greatly appreciate a response
from those who are telecommuters, to the following questions. If you
are not a telecommuter but know of others who are it would be
appreciated if you could pass this on to them:
 
 
Q1      Does the organisation to which you telecommute provide any
        library and information services which are accessible to you
        online? (eg catalogs, reference assistance, databases, literature
        searches, document delivery services, organisation information
        such as daily bulletins and administrative gazettes.)
 
        If yes:
 
        (a) What services are provided?
        (b) How useful are these services to you?
 
Q2      (a)     What is the nature of the organisation to which you
                telecommute?
 
        (b)     If you sometimes commute physically to your organisation,
                how frequently do you do this?
 
Q3      What are the particular information needs that you have as a
        telecommuter?
 
Q4      What basic information services do you consider should be
        provided by an organisation for its telecommuters? (see Q5 for
        additional and desirable services)
 
Q5      What additional information services would you perceive as being
        highly desirable for an organisation to provide for its
        telecommuters?
 
Q6      Are there any further comments you wish to make regarding the
        information needs of telecommuters?
 
Q7      Would you like a summary of the results of this survey E-mailed
        to you?
 
Respondents can be assured that individuals and organisations will not
be identified in any report or summary of this survey.
 
Please E-mail your response to my Internet address:
 
9138827a@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
 
Thank you for your cooperation
 
Bronwen Strong

#! rnews 3701
From: mamjpc@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.cis.dslss
Subject: final submission of pretty printer
Date: 29 Oct 92 15:50:13 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

To mail the final version of the pretty printer, use the followin command:

elm -s "ppsstage4" madslssm@lux < pps.shar

the shell archive MUST contain all nine (6) modules of the pretty printer
PLUS a makefile.

Michael

#! rnews 564
From: etac@levels.unisa.edu.au (Andrew Chalmers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: biff problems.
Date: 29 Oct 92 16:59:42 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

Can someone tell me why biff and xbiff don't seem to work properly.
biff never tells me when I have new mail at all.
and xbiff won't generate a beep.
I can at least get a visual indication of new mail.  But an audable signal
would be very useful as I'm not always looking at my display.

Thanks
Andrew Chalmers
#! rnews 651
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: go ahead, ignore me as usual
Date: 29 Oct 92 21:18:20 +0930
Organization: That damn kid is still here!

Regular readers of misc.test will remember me from alltime
greats such as Be kind to your web footed friend for a duck may
be somebodies mother, and here lies a lonely man.

But alas, today, my mind is not in top gear. This poor statement
is all I have to offer at the moment. So, too all you wonderful
people out there in usenetworld, I hereby submit the following
contribution;

test

#! rnews 827
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: ignore
Date: 29 Oct 92 21:20:40 +0930
Organization: That damn kid is still here!

In article <19103.2af0551c@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon) writes:
> Regular readers of misc.test will remember me from alltime
> greats such as Be kind to your web footed friend for a duck may
> be somebodies mother, and here lies a lonely man.
> 
> But alas, today, my mind is not in top gear. This poor statement
> is all I have to offer at the moment. So, too all you wonderful
> people out there in usenetworld, I hereby submit the following
> contribution;
> 
> test
> 

am ah peetifahl ar whaht?
#! rnews 993
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: no reply  ignore
Date: 29 Oct 92 21:22:25 +0930
Organization: That damn kid is still here!

NO REPLY IGNORE
In article <19104.2af055a8@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon) writes:
> In article <19103.2af0551c@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon) writes:
>> Regular readers of misc.test will remember me from alltime
>> greats such as Be kind to your web footed friend for a duck may
>> be somebodies mother, and here lies a lonely man.
>> 
>> But alas, today, my mind is not in top gear. This poor statement
>> is all I have to offer at the moment. So, too all you wonderful
>> people out there in usenetworld, I hereby submit the following
>> contribution;
>> 
>> test
>> 
> 
> am ah peetifahl ar whaht?
#! rnews 442
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: ignore
Date: 29 Oct 92 21:35:40 +0930
Organization: That damn kid is still here!

In article <Bq7pGt.MF9@acsu.buffalo.edu>, osorio@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mauricio Osorio) writes:
> Test
> 
> This is just a test.
#! rnews 584
From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: ignore
Date: 29 Oct 92 22:06:22 +0930
Organization: That damn kid is still here!

In article <19106.2af0592c@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon) writes:
> In article <Bq7pGt.MF9@acsu.buffalo.edu>, osorio@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mauricio Osorio) writes:
>> Test
>> 
>> This is just a test.
#! rnews 1188