HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: riks@ogicse.ogi.edu (Rik Fischer Smoody)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday in Japanese
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:03:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.41618
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <1992Aug18.030154.11639@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au> pauline@mips.cs.murdoch.edu (Pauline Day) writes:
>I have a Japanese student staying with me (arrived on Saturday) and it is her birthday this 
>weekend.  Can someone please tell me how to say 'happy birthday' in Japanese.... also any 
("Happi" is pronounced as "hop" followed by the name of the letter P)
Happi basu dei tsu iu
Happi basu dei tsu iu
Happi basu dei dia <what'sYerName>.
Happi basu dei tsu iu.

Same trite melody.
Honest: my Nihonjin colleagues sang this at each other on birthdays,
not just to me.


>Japanese customs as to how birthday's are celebrated.
Fancy-wrapped gifts.

Seriously, treat home-stay guests from far-away places like
a cousin from Montana.  Do what YOU do on birthdays.
They want to see your culture.
Let them choose the restaurant to eat at that night.
Or take 'em to Farrel's ice cream and embarras them.
If they are old enough, take 'em to you favorite bar.
Don't try to give them something they could get in Takashima-ya:
give them something from Fred Meyers (or Walmart or... )
It hard to lose with chocolate...unless NObody at your house likes it.
    In that case, send ME the chocolate  8-)

Rik Fischer Smoody
    smOOdynamics	 Systems Made Outa Objects
	2400 NE 25th, Suite 800
	Portland, OR 97212
503-249-8300		 riks@cse.ogi.edu
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:51:24 EDT
From: Larry E. Cravetz <RSAYLC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Help: need phone # of the Japanese consulate in NY
Distribution: usa

Try : (212)371-8222. Or try the phone book...
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 22 Aug 92 11:51:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <94315@bu.edu> sakai@csa.bu.edu (Tsutomu Sakai) writes:
>     That one doesn't know it's happened is no evidence of it's never
>happened.  Hope this helps you, Mr. Shin, understand why 'racism' is
>mentioned.  Nobody is saying that asking an apology is racism.
>
>					----- sakai@csa.bu.edu

I am sure writer above missed my point to netter Smittie.  If one uses
trn, one can easily trace back few articles in this sub-thread and can
verify that netter Smittie was replying to my post where I stated 
"bingo!" to agree with another netter's post. Since netter Smittie was 
replying to my post even without outlining names, I infered that netter
Smittie pointing finger at me so here I am defending my reputation in the
net: produce any of posts where *I* supposedly used racial slur "jap" or
"signs of racism" are present.
From: sakai@csa.bu.edu (Tsutomu Sakai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: About the usage of "Japs"
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:56:38 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


     Who in the world are Japs?  Quite honestly, I have never seen any Jap
in my life.  Although it is one's choice to call them Japs or Japanese,
using such words as "Japs" merely leads the argument to /dev/null, because
no Japanese considers himself/herself as a Jap.  Therefore, nobody could
get any apology from Japanese by calling them Japs, in attempt to show
his/her hatred.  Needless to say, there is no such group of people as Japs,
at least not in Japanese people's mind.  When one says "Japs", it seems to
me as if he/she was facing to nobody, and I feel a little bit sorry to
him/her, as what is done is meaningless, worthless, and rewardless.

     Why one should avoid to use the improper name must be clear by now,
even for those who do not want to show any respect to Japanese.  It would
be much better if "respect" and "other's feelings" kinds of explanations
are understood as well.

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The above is just my opinion, and no organization, | Sakai, Tsutomu 
institution, or nation is responsible for the      | sakai@csa.bu.edu
contents of my posting.                            | Boston University
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: 2 questions (was RE: Open letter)
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:29:55 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <94360@bu.edu> sakai@csa.bu.edu (Tsutomu Sakai) writes:
>
>     A couple things bothers me.
>
[Q.1 deleted]

>2)  Does anyone know how old the Emperor Akihito is?  I asked it to some
>friends of mine, but they just guessed (late 60's or early 70's); nobody
>knew his age for sure.  (Is his birthday a holiday in Japan now?)
>
>     Thank you in advance.

	Emperor Akihito was born on December 23rd, 1933.  He is 58 now.

	His birthday is, yes, a naional holiday, however, some people, 
	especially students, are not glad because it's usually in the winter
	vacation and they cannot get a benefit of it.  :-)

	(boy, I'm glad that I have this magazine with me, otherwise...  :-))

	Just for a reference.

						Tetsuya Nishimura
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: oishi@epas.utoronto.ca (Nana Oishi)
Subject: E-mail in Japan
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:59:36 GMT

Hi!  I am looking for someone who knows about the e-mail system in Japan.
Is it possible to get an e-mail account without joining any
institutions such as university or company??  How much does it cost to
open an account and send messages?  If there is anyone who can answer
my questions, please respond to me at oishi@epas.utoronto.ca
I'll greatly appreciate it!

Thanks in advance.

Nana Oishi
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: mountain bikes & gifts
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:34:51 GMT
	<HARKCOM.92Aug17084907@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
	<1992Aug17.034116.14545@CS.ORST.EDU>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU's message of 17 Aug 92 03:41:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.034116.14545@CS.ORST.EDU> lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU
   (Ben Lam) writes:

 =}Is is true that Japanese bikes follow European standards instead ofAmerican?

   Japanese bikes follow Japanese standards (or at least I think that's what
all of those silly little JIS stickers and tags are about)...

   I don't know enough about US and European standards to know which one
is closest...
From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Karuna Shinsho
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:11:24 GMT
	<4828@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> <1992Aug17.205510.27705@uwm.edu>
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
In-reply-to: buzzsaw@csd4.csd.uwm.edu's message of 17 Aug 92 20:55:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.205510.27705@uwm.edu> buzzsaw@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Elias Campbell) writes:



>    As a side note, about a year or so ago TV GUIDE ran the 'Most Attractive
>   Woman on Television'  poll. Suprisingly, Karuna got several votes!!

>    And if you think Karuna was a bad anouncer, you should see the person who replaced her!

I second that...the new woman has nothing on Karuna.




--
Sean J. Merritt		         |      Nietzsche che dice?
Dept of Physics Boston University| 	       Boh!	
merritt@budoe.bu.edu		 | 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:30:48 GMT

smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:

>What do evidence do we have of this?? The PKO bill? That was a response to
>Western pressures that developed as a result of the Gulf War. So what other
>evidence can you offer that shows Japan's desire to return to
>militant-nationalism???

>smittie
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>smittie@beach.csulb.edu |  current world problems would be yesterday's news.
>________________________|___________________________________________________



....well the Japanese have placed orders for and arranged shipping for
enough plutonium to give Japan a greater supply than any other country,
including the U.S. and the former U.S.S.R.!

Charlie
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From: ylu@bach.helios.nd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:00:30 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Aug16.081012.26814@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG) writes:
>In article <2351@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>>
>>This may come as a real surprise but I have been in Japan for 10
>>years and during that time I've had many conversations with a wide
>>variety of people here and there is a "large" (can't say exactly,
>>but among those I have spoken with approx. 90%) segment who do *NOT*
>>feel that Japan was responsible for the war.  Instead, they have a
>>well-developed set of reasons why and how Japan was tricked into the
>>war and they believe this to be the case. Thus I don't think asking
>>
 
If a large number of japs think in this way it is dangerous! For our chinese,
the question of how the japs was "tricked" to the war is another subject.
We can not mix these issues. The fact is millions of chinese civilian people
were killed, Buried in LIVE and killed in LIVE for medical testing by JAPs
on chinese land. Who can say this is not japs responsibility! no matter what
is the reason for their invading! 
 
One the other hand some netters have pointed out how the japs was "tricked"
to invade china, I do'nt want to use more valuable CPU time here.
 
>>  For a long time the offical explanation of Pearl Harbor was that
>

A lot of people like to confuse us. If we like to discuss the issue of Pearl
Harbor-Atomic bomb, let's go to soci.culture.american group. Here we talk
about what japs did in china! Do they need to apology to chinese people,
not to american.
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:15:40 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

Never expect an apology from someone that knows you hate
them. They will not see any point in making an apology,
and will assume the demand for an apology is only a part of
your revenge. Please excuse them if they therefore deny the
validity of your revenge by not giving an apology that will,
in any case, be ignored.... and yet another demanded.

While one person's history books may downplay historical
events, I wonder if another's overplays those same events
to reinforce the hatred and racist obsessions. Which is
worse depends on only where you live.

I don't think anyone posting here raped, murdered or 
mutilated anyone. I also didn't see anyone defending
the actions of the wartime Japanese government.

Please keep your hate to yourself until you can decide
exactly what it is you hate. If you hate the past, then
so be it, but please don't carry your hate into the future,
or you are no better than what you hate. 

- Bill Lambert
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:34:12 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Aug15.124608.14760@husc3.harvard.edu> liu10@husc10.harvard.edu (Eric Liu) writes:
.....
>  Up till now,
>Japan has never claimed responsibility for the war and have never showed
>any signes of repentance for their unforgivable deeds!
.....

   What is your opinion about the attitude of Japan demonstrated in the joint 
statement made by the Chinese and Japanese government on September 27, 1972 at 
Beijin? What is its general acceptance among Chinese people?

   I'm not trying to say that that was enough, but I'd like to know how it is
evaluated.

Michiaki Masuda
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:7115 soc.culture.china:23550 soc.culture.hongkong:10037 soc.culture.taiwan:12216
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:25:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: beach.SMITTIE.92Aug21092551
	<SMITTIE.92Aug20160552@beach.csulb.edu>
	<1992Aug21.000929.958@leland.Stanford.EDU> <912@hobby.ukc.ac.uk>
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

>No. But if they denounce all Germans I do. All I wish is that people
>posting here would differentiate between the Japanese who committed
>atrocities during the war and those Japanese (the vast majority of
>Japanese) who didn't.

Exactly!

smittie
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smittie@beach.csulb.edu |  current world problems would be yesterday's news.
________________________|___________________________________________________
From: mhs@ukc.ac.uk (M.H.Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:56:48 GMT
Reply-To: mhs@ukc.ac.uk (M.H.Smith)
Organization: Electronic Engineering Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


In article <908@hobby.ukc.ac.uk> I wrote:
   Japan has a standing army of what, 300,000 or so? The Peoples
   Liberation Army is what, some 4,000,000 or so? 

In article <1992Aug20.141715.20301@tamsun.tamu.edu> x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) replied:
   About 2,500,000 is a better estimate!

I'm sorry -- I should have checked my facts and got them exactly
right. According to the Britannica yearbook for 1992 the relative
sizes of the military in Japan and the PRC are:

PRC -- 3,030,000 (75.9% army, 8.6% navy, 15.5% airforce) so the army
is actually about 2,300,000 strong.

Japan -- 246,400 (63.4% army, 17.8% navy, 18.8% airforce) so the army
is about 156,00 strong.

Satisfied? The point, though, that the armed forces of the PRC are 10
times greater than those of Japan is still valid. Who poses more of a
threat to whom?

In article <1992Aug20.141715.20301@tamsun.tamu.edu> x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) continued:
   Tibet has been part of China for over a thousand years and almost 
   every country recognizes this fact officially.

Isn't it a shame that the Tibetan people don't recognise this? Would it
have been ok if the world recognised Japan's right to run bits of China
despite the protestations of the local population? Remember, Japan was
awarded parts of China in the settlement after the WWI. By your
reasoning, this was perfectly fair.

Malcolm Smith
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tozaki@math.keio.ac.jp (Hidekazu TOZAKI)
Subject: Re: Moving discussion of life in Japan to fj
Organization: Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
	<TOZAKI.92Aug14221743@amber.math.keio.ac.jp>
	<GySS9@reseau.macrofield.or.jp>
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:25:46 GMT

In article <GySS9@reseau.macrofield.or.jp> kenji@macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
 >! >  Most of? If you have any statistical information, please show it to
 >! >us (also in fj.news.groups).
 >! What do you think about it? Let us know.

 With the *literal* intention, no other meanings.

 >! I have no statistics
 That's enough.

 >! I know silent Japanese readers exist on non-Japanese-spoken 
 >! newsgroups - but what I want to insist is that little portion of 
 >! them do POSTING to non-Japanese-spoken newsgroups.

 I insist the very same thing in fj.news.group.
--
Hidekazu TOZAKI
Faculty of Science and Technology, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan.
E-mail: tozaki@nak.math.keio.ac.jp
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Have some cash
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:21:51 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Aug16.183224.24665@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>While I'm trying to appreciate your little joke, 
>I'd like to assure you that
>Hotel Sun (sometimes spelled San) Royal in Kawasaki is listed as 
>a member of the Japan Business Hotels Association (or something 
>like this, I don't have this info at home) on a legit list
>obtained from the Japan Travel Bureau in Manhattan. And
>my card was a Corp AmEx (don't leave home without it?).
			  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Just for a tiny fun.  In TV comercial of AmEx in Japan, a golfer Jack
	Nikurausu (I don't know the spelling :<) says in Japanese;
	"Dekakeru toki wa wasurezu ni."
	People joke it and say;
	"Wasureta toki wa dekakezu ni."	:)

						Tetsuya Nishimura
From: stevef@csl.sony.co.jp
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: mountain bikes & gifts
Date: 22 Aug 92 06:55:36 GMT
	<HARKCOM.92Aug17084907@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
	<1992Aug17.034116.14545@CS.ORST.EDU>
	<HARKCOM.92Aug21083451@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory Inc., Tokyo, Japan

In article <HARKCOM.92Aug21083451@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:


   In article <1992Aug17.034116.14545@CS.ORST.EDU> lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU
      (Ben Lam) writes:

    =}Is is true that Japanese bikes follow European standards instead ofAmerican?

      Japanese bikes follow Japanese standards (or at least I think that's what
   all of those silly little JIS stickers and tags are about)...

      I don't know enough about US and European standards to know which one
   is closest...




I think the main difference is that they have a different nozzle on
the tires for air. American mountain bikes have the same nozzle as
Japanese cars so it is not so much of a problem, though maybe you
might want to include a small hand held pump with the gift.

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From: jfriedl+@CS.CMU.EDU (Jeffrey Friedl)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Osaka Airport directions
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:22:14 GMT
Reply-To: jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu
Organization: Carnegie Mellon / Omron Corporation

yoichi@milton.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
|> In article <Bsyt3o.HG3.1@cs.cmu.edu> jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu writes:
|> > [about money]
|> >I recommend exchanging nothing before you arrive.  If you really want
|> >to exchange in The States, just flush your money down the toilet and
|> >save yourself a trip to the bank....
|> 
|> I would tend to recommend that you have some money in yen (in lower 
|> denominations). Some flights from US (especially those from the West 
|> coast via Narita-Tokyo), tend to arrive in Itami-Osaka around 7pm.  
|> By that time banks will have closed and you won't be able to exchange 
|> your TC.  Also banks are closed on certain holidays (and maybe weekends).

I had the distinct impression (but not factual knowledge) that the exchange
counter inside the customs area (as opposed to the bank on the mid-level
below departure) was always open.  If I am mistaken, Yoichi's advice
is certainly good.

I know the feeling of being stuck in a strange place without any of the
proper money. I was in Prague during the revolution....  I had a hundred
people wanting to exchange money illegally, but without the stamp on your
entry visa that indicated you exchanged money legally, you couldn't rent
a room.  It was 9PM. The government had just fallen. All banks were closed.
Official exchange place after official exchange place said that they had
either "run out of money" or just "didn't feel like exchanging" for me.
A thousand foreigners (mostly Austrians and Itallians) are running around
like me, looking for both money and rooms. After two hours of searching I'd
finally found an available room, but they'd only hold it if I could get the
proper money "soon". I got separeted from my girlfriend in the rush.
It was an hour or two of hell.

Ya, listen to Yoichi and bring some yen with you, just to be safe.

	*jeff*
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Omron Corporation, Section RZE, Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo Kyoto 617, Japan
Visiting researcher to the Mach Project, Carnegie Mellon University
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:7050 soc.culture.china:23490 soc.culture.hongkong:9989 soc.culture.taiwan:12159
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:51:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug21.005135.25026
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <SMITTIE.92Aug20160552@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>>Yet you should understand that some hatred is caused not really by teaching,
>>but by the dishonesty of the Japanese government.
>
>Unless some of the netters here are much older than I think, no one here has
>any first hand knowledge of what happened in Nanking. That is, no one
>participating here was at Nanking. Yet many here have very emotional feelings
>about Nanking. That response to Nanking was taught. I am not suggesting that
>someone told about what happened at Nanking and then told you to hate the
>Japanese for it. The lessons in hatred come in through implication. Much the
>same way racist attitudes are taught in some areas of the US.

Yes, you still make sense here, but only to some extent. I can only aasume that
you had not much clue about what you were talking about, when you ignore the
feelings of the victims.

Having not observing the flagrant crimes in person doesn't mean the historical
event hadn't happen. From tens of outrageious pictures, you can clearly figure
out some thing unprecedent must have been happened there, even without any other
people's explaination. Covering the crimes can lead nothing heathy but potential
hatred. We chinese were not told to hate the whole Japanese people. We know the 
war is over (even some may not think so,) and don't want the same kind of things,
as what is happening in Yugusolvakia and some Sov-republics, happen to our
future generations. Officially, we were told that many japanese people were also
the victims. We know there are not real winners, except few, in a war. Many people
in Nanking still have very strong feeling about the masscre of 300,000 people.
The feeling there is much stronger than many other places. It is not really the 
government that has told the people to do so. Actually, the hatred is delivered
from the old generation. If the people there know that constructive measures have 
been taken by the Japanese government, the hatred may be not that strong and 
popular. Personally, I don't think the hatred is good. But honestly, I do think
the potential threats still reside in the Japan. We are afraid of the jingoism
there. the fear is surely not grondless, considering the environement that the
government has created by lying and covering about the war. For me, the lying is
a shame for the both peoples. Chinese people find it hard to face the lies that
are poisoning the Japanese kids, while Japanese people have to live in the
environment full of lies about the war.

The apology is not as crucial as the real change of the official attitude.