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From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Subject: Re: big pads available? Rector LARGE doesn't fit!
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:04:14 GMT

thanks for the info.  I would definately like information about the PD stuff.

As for pads, I was able to find a place in San Fransisco that has XL sized
Rector fat boys knee pads, and large sized rector fat boys elbow pads.  I
ordered both, as well as an XL size fly-away helmet.


Fat boy knee pads were	55.90
fat boy elbow pads were 45.00
fly away helmet         33.90

I can't remember the name of the place; a sales lady at RECTOR (707-544-5044)
gave me the number of the place.  I think they're called skates on Hait, and
their number is 800-554-1235


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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: skate bored is more like it...
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:00:04 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Aug12.185046.6719@athena.mit.edu> byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller) writes:
> In article <Bsvr8D.6tr@monitor.com> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:
> >Hey, what's up with this newsgroup? I just subscribed and there just ain't  
> >no postings to view! Wazzup widdat?
> 
> 	Well it's not like there's been NO traffic.  It's low, but not
> nonexistent.  Is it just me, or does everyone else notice that
> occasionally someone will post saying that they just subbed and
> there's no traffic at all?  Maybe the group exists at some sites but
> doesn't receive the messages?  Weird.

I suspect the problem is that most sites that receive alt.groups tend
to expire them in only a few days.  If you traffic level dips below the
message-a-day point, someone suscribing sees that the group exists,
but there are no messages to read.

Also, there are probably some connectivity problems, especially with a
low-volume group, as evidenced to the occaional replies to messages where
you didn't see the original.

-- 
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but no way officially representing:   domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
Commodore, Engineering Department     phone:  215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest)
Subject: Re: houston skating
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:32:47 GMT

In article <BsxIDo.22I@rice.edu> mlevi@owlnet.rice.edu (Marcel Nolan Levi) writes:
>
>obnoxious* way to pave the streets.  They are all cement foundations,
>but have a layer or two of blacktop over them, which makes skating 
>them rather smooth, even with small 97's.  But there's one problem.
>The blacktop STOPS about 10-12 inches away from each curb, where it
>drops off about 1.5 or 2 inches.  So there's a little trough about a 
>foot wide and 2 inches deep alongside the curbs.  Other than that,
>the curbs themselves are perfect for grinding.

 Hmmm.. where exactly are you talking about? Not Downtown I take it. All of
 Houston is definitely not like this.. There's a few curbs downtown that 
 you probably couldn't grind with elite Z-R0llerz.

 dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Kendall area
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:28:21 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <Bt7MC3.2x1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Missi Wilkenfeld) writes:
> 
> Okay clue me in guys.  Sean Sowder is my boyfriend?  I just started
> reading this group last week and he hasn't posted I don't think.  Please
> explain the comment.  I don't understand! 

Missi - tell him you've lost your net access and see if he's still
as lovey-dovey next week...

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller)
Subject: Re: skate bored is more like it...
Organization: SKaters At Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:50:46 GMT

In article <Bsvr8D.6tr@monitor.com> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:
>Hey, what's up with this newsgroup? I just subscribed and there just ain't  
>no postings to view! Wazzup widdat?

	Well it's not like there's been NO traffic.  It's low, but not
nonexistent.  Is it just me, or does everyone else notice that
occasionally someone will post saying that they just subbed and
there's no traffic at all?  Maybe the group exists at some sites but
doesn't receive the messages?  Weird.

	By the way, for those who care, Jahmal Williams does indeed
now ride for TV.  If you ask me he's better (at least more
consistently good) than Templeton or Vallely on an off day.  And he
has more style than both of them put together and all their families.

				--Halloween Jack, achy achy

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Subject: big pads available? Rector LARGE doesn't fit!
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:43:03 GMT


I've been having some problems recently.

I bought a Pro-Tec helmet, rector protector elbow pads, and
rector fat boys knee pads.  All of these were size LARGE,
the largest size available from CALIFORNIA CHEAP SKATE/SURF.

The helmet and elbow pads fit, but snugly.

The knee pads are a nice design, they wrap around so you don't
need to remove your shoes to put them on.  They have a neoprene
(however spelled - wetsuit type material) fabric that wraps around
the back and lots of velcro to hold them in place.

The knee pads barely fit (it takes stretching to make the neoprene
flaps touch/overlap so the velcro can 'mate').

Also, I have been having pain in my elbows and knees, which, since
I haven't had any falls on these areas of any magnitude whatsoever,
I attribute to the pads being too tight.

First of all, does anyone know where I can get larger elbow pads and
knee pads (and help too, if possible).  Rector would be nice, as I
like their design, especially the wrap around knee pad, but comfort,
medical soundness vis a vis not restricting circulation and providing
necessary protection are my main priorities.

Secondly, are other skaters experiencing this same problem (the pain
from tight pads or something else) - pain in the elbows and/or knees?

I am 6'5" and 220 pounds (196 cm and 100 Kg for your international
skaters).  What are other skaters my size or larger (it's possible!)
wearing?  Should I be looking to Rollerblade companies for more
'adult' sized pads?  What are 'professional' skateboarders wearing?

What it would seem is that if an XL size of helmet and elbow/knee
pads were available, it would fit me PERFECTLY.

please respond by e-mail, in addition to posting to the group, as messages
on this group die quickly on my system.

Thanks,

Ed

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Operations/User Services          1200 Washington Avenue South
(612) 626-1888 work               Minneapolis, Minnesota  55415
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Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Boston Globe re. inliners
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:41:16 GMT

In article <34488@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George  
Robbins) writes:
> 
> I guess all I trying to get at is don't blame the yuppies for the problems
> or expect that poking fun at their image/rationalle will do you any good.

Me?  Stereotyping?  Yeah, but just between you and me (and the whole goddamn  
net!) I confess that I don't mean it seriously. :-)

But on the serious side, my point was more like being _jealous_ of "yuppie"  
in-liners because they've got it together with some serious clout.  I wasn't  
saying that they _should_ try to help skateboarders, either--I just wanted to  
point out that they aren't and won't!

Anyway, someone has to occasionally poke fun at "yuppies" (def: younger someone  
with a prematurely closed mind) to keep them honest.
-- 
_________________________________________  ________________________________
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those of my employers" Johnson           \ \ michael@monitor.com
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mr. Ian Rogers)
Subject: Re: Kendall area
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:06:44 GMT

In article <Bt7MC3.2x1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Missi Wilkenfeld) writes:
>>any illict postings and we'll starting reposting the Sean Sowder sweetness
>>and light postings and then send Phil to clean up.
>>
>
>Okay clue me in guys.  Sean Sowder is my boyfriend?  I just started
>reading this group last week and he hasn't posted I don't think.  Please
>explain the comment.  I don't understand! 
>-- 

Wait.  That IS Sean USING his GIRLFRIEND's account.  A GIRL reading this
newsgroup!?!  A GIRL using the net?!?  Don't be fooled, folks.

Take that "missy".
ian


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irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Kendall area
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:58:23 GMT

Does anyone know of any good places to skate around the Kendall  
Square/East Cambridge area?

Also, is there anyone who skates the Kendall Square area during they day  
who wouldn't mind some company? I am a relatively inexperienced skater who  
works near the Galleria mall and I occasionally skate around during lunch  
and after work. I don't carry much in the way of tricks but it'd be cool  
to hang out and skate with some folks and maybe pick some stuff up (read:  
get a vicious skate gang together and achieve total world domination!)

Almost forgot: the only good hardware store I know of is that place on  
South Charles Street in Boston, near the Public Gardens and Stuart Street.  
If anyone knows of any other good places (in Cambridge?) please post.

Okay ONE MORE question. Last one, I promise! Why isn't this newsgroup  
busier? I know there are a lot of skaters out there--are we missing  
skaters who are plugging into alt.skate or rec.skate?
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE : Complete Skateboard !!!!   CHEAP !
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:36:44 GMT

In response to this guy's ad for a skate for sale...

mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Missi Wilkenfeld) writes:
> Oh my goodness only the best for you mudit eh?

and Andrew Prock writes...
> How about I pay for shipping just to get it off of your hands.

My humble opinion is that you are being unfair to this guy - that _might_ be  
a decent board for a beginner, especially if they are short on $, but any  
beginner who sees your flames will immediately back off even though they  
could probably haggle with this dude and pick it up for $50 as opposed to a  
$85-$100 entry-level mailorder stick.

Play nice, kids!
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so obviously my opinions do not represent/ / Monitor Company, Cambridge, MA
those of my employers" Johnson           \ \ michael@monitor.com
From: byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Plan B/Blind Demo: Boston, MA
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:14:52 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: SKaters At Massachusetts Institute of Technology


	Oh my GAWD.  All I can say is that if Rodney Mullen wasn't
already the greatest human being in the universe in my eyes simply for
his skating, he sure is now for coming back to MIT with us and skating
'til 3AM with a bunch of nerds like us.

	The only one skating at the demo yesterday was Rodney... the
others on the team were too lazy to bother.  Rodney, on the other
hand, was out there skating when we got there- half an hour early.
Don't ask me to describe the things he was doing, it's not humanly
possible.  Hopefully the video footage will tell the tale.

	Rodney was way psyched to see the Institute, so at sixish he
hitched with us back to campus and got a cool tour of the Media Lab
with all the holography and stuff.  We went to Bertucci's for pizza
and skated around campus spots, getting kicked out of some.
Eventually we wound up at the MIT radio station WMBR during the HELL
COMES TO YOUR HOUSE show, and Andy put us all on the air.  After the
show Andy joined us and we skated some more, winding up at Buzzy's for
frappes.

	Amy and I bailed at about 3:10 'cause we have to work, but
Rodney voiced his intention to come back, maybe in October, by himself
just to hang out.  What the hell, I guess all pros can't be like Mike
Vallely.  ;-)

	All in all it was the BEST FUCKING DAY OF MY LIFE.  Or right
up there, at least.

				--Halloween Jack.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dvanhorn@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Dave VanHorn)
Subject: Re: Plan B/Blind Demo: Boston, MA
Summary: ses
Keywords: altt
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 19:10:58 GMT





























Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: skate bored is more like it...
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:00:12 GMT

Hey, what's up with this newsgroup? I just subscribed and there just ain't  
no postings to view! Wazzup widdat?
From: mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Missi Wilkenfeld)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Kendall area
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:45:39 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller) writes:
>> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:
>> 
>> >Okay ONE MORE question. Last one, I promise! Why isn't this newsgroup  
>> >busier? I know there are a lot of skaters out there--are we missing  
>> >skaters who are plugging into alt.skate or rec.skate?
>> 
>> 	I doubt it, the way the people on rec.skate are (or how I
>> assume they are, based on how the inliners on alt.skate used to be);
>> they HATE us and our childhood antics.  It was always ``Why do we have
>> to put up with these adolescent morons and their discussions about
>> antisocial behaaaaaavior?''  
>
>Click-hiss...  We're watching you guys (the rec.skate security patrol) -
>any illict postings and we'll starting reposting the Sean Sowder sweetness
>and light postings and then send Phil to clean up.
>

Okay clue me in guys.  Sean Sowder is my boyfriend?  I just started
reading this group last week and he hasn't posted I don't think.  Please
explain the comment.  I don't understand! 
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Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller)
Subject: It Had To Happen
Organization: SKaters At Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:41:04 GMT

From Juggle this morning...

>News Flash:
>
>Professor Gene Brown of 7.05 General Biochemistry fame just told me that
>Bill (?) Dixon Veep of MIT, wants a concrete ban on skateboarding and
>rollerblading indoors at MIT.
>
>Prof. Brown also told me that he was nearly flattened by a ROLLERBLADER
>barreling down the hall and not looking where he was going.

	Well, guess we're gonna have to MOVE on this...  We'll keep
y'all posted as to how it all turns out.

			--Halloween Jack, we have not yet begun to
					  fight (literally)
From: sracer@cecelia.media.mit.edu (Andy Hong (Go Speed Racer!))
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: houston skating
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:24:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: cecelia.SRACER.92Aug13172419
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Music Group

In article <BsxIDo.22I@rice.edu> mlevi@owlnet.rice.edu (Marcel Nolan Levi) writes:

   The blacktop STOPS about 10-12 inches away from each curb, where it
   drops off about 1.5 or 2 inches.  So there's a little trough about a 
   foot wide and 2 inches deep alongside the curbs.  Other than that,
   the curbs themselves are perfect for grinding.

   The problem is that you have to ollie to the curb with the nose about
   a foot away from curb (no big deal) but when you try to drop back in,
   you _always_ get caught up on that stupid blacktop edge.  Any 
   suggestions?  Here's one possibility:  Ollie to a nosegrind (or just 

   Marcel,
   mlevi@rice.edu

Why not just do a straight vanilla ollie over the trough launching from
the curb down to the asphalt?

Or am I missing something?

--andy
From: mcsdc1jcwj@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Brit skate
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:20:01 BST
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Brit Skaters where art thou ???
 
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From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: mail order: liberal return policies?
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:14:59 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN


I have been having some problems with California Cheap Skate (I should have
known because of the name, I guess) and their return policy.

I bought some pads that I was able to put on, but found that wearing and
using them produced pain in my elbows and knees.  Now I want to return
the goods, and am coming up against their "no used equipment returns"
policy.  I'm trying to get ahold of the owner, but am starting to get
pissed.

Anyone got some mail order houses in mind that have good selection of
pads and other skate equipment, excellent service and return policies
for when things don't work out (absolutely required for mail order to
be viable from the customer point of view, in my opinion) and excellent
pricing?

Thanks for the info about pads, everyone, and thanks for any info you
may be able to furnish in this regard.

Also, a telephone number and or address for thrasher magazine might
be helpful, I should subscribe again..


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Operations/User Services          1200 Washington Avenue South
(612) 626-1888 work               Minneapolis, Minnesota  55415
(612) 645-0168 voice mail         [DISCLAIMER: MY OPINIONS; NOT MSCI'S]

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Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Boston Globe re. inliners
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:46:50 GMT

For those who don't live in Boston and those who missed the article (god  
knows it hurts to read the Globe but I force myself) I just wanted to mention  
that a SCARY article was just printed about what a tough time in-liners are  
having trying to "skate" in Newport & Middleton, MA without getting citations  
from the boys in blue.

What really makes it scary is how the article treats the skateboard-rights  
battle as though it is lost and long gone (and deserved to lose because they  
got in the way of self-righteous, shoot-me-I'm-a-yuppie in-liners!) All due  
to the "no TOYS on the street" safety ordinance being adopted by many towns  
and cities that ignores the fact that bicycles are all over the street and  
are just as much a toy as any kind of skate.

Okay, okay, I know--same old shit. But these people have serious clout--6.5  
million in-liners nationwide and a group in Newport that's got 500 signatures  
supporting compromise for in-liners, but NOT FOR SKATEBOARDERS. Important  
issue: these people are fighting for and apparently winning back their rights  
but they're leaving us behind. Their logic says that in-lines are  
maneuverable enough to be exempt from skateboard laws. All I'm saying is  
skaters need to keep fighting and not let stuff like this go unchecked. 

Party for your right to fight!

___________________________________________________________________________
Michael T. "I'm only a peon in my company \  Information Engineering
so obviously my opinions do not represent /  Monitor Company, Cambridge, MA
those of my employers" Johnson            \  michael@monitor.com
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