HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Walk away, run away, was Re: Pre-Sex Contract 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:06:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.065236.12705@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>I would have no qualms with turning my back on her and the child.  I do not
>take too kindly to people who lie to me.  

*Her* child?  If you have fathered it, it's your child as well.  Your
(potential) child did not lie to you.  It did not promise you anything
or asked you to make its conception and birth possible.  Your parental
responsibility does not magically disappear just because you, by the
twist your perverted logic, have voided yourself of all parental
instincts.

By all means, make sure you always have your pre-sex contract handy.  
With any luck it will make sure that you don't breed and contribute to the
growing problem of destitute single mothers.
-- 
Oleg Kiselev at home			...use the header to find the path
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: Fetishes?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.020043.21531@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:

>Weirdly enough, my physical fetish is,
>round, plump shoulders.  Does anyone else find this extremely attractive?
>Or am I just too weird?
>
>Just me,
>
>little 'e'
>
>(My 3 year old nephew Andrew has really cute, round shoulders :)
>
I think you're just plain wierd.
(Guess there's no reason now for us to meet on my next trip out West)

			:-)  

                 Steve Stein  (609) 639-2264
    *******************************************************
    *  Just my opinion, though it could change tomorrow   *
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Truth
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:15:22 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <BywqJx.BCo.2@cs.cmu.edu>, Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes:
> boylan@sltg04.ljo.dec.com writes:
>    ...Utah had to be coerced by the Federal government into passing such a law.
> 
> Imprecise.  The Federal govt itself is what created such laws -- the
> first are called the Anti-Polygamy Statutes of 1859.  Lincoln signed
> them into law.  He didn't like doing it (based on a quote of his at
> the time), but did so anyway in the process of knuckling under to
> political pressure.

I suspect that either date or the president are wrong.  Lincoln didn't
take office until early 1861.  The Constitution requires a law to be
signed or vetoed by the President within ten days of reaching his
desk, or it passes into law as long as Congress is still in 
session.[U.S. Const., Art. I, sec. 7]



-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
C++ is to C, as lung cancer is to lung.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:30:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.063437.29417@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.052306.24744@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>>
>>     Actually, I have changed option #2 to the woman and man each paying
>>50%.  That is a bit fairer.
>>
>Mr. Tickle Monster is being benevolent.  How nice of Mr. Tickle  
>Monster.  Mr. Tickle Monster is showing us that he can be
>big-hearted and logical by changing his mind.
>Everybody send a note of thanks to Mr. Tickle Monster.
>
>
 
Will somebody tell Mrs Becker, Bobby is playing with the computer again.

 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering)
Subject: Re: Book
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:22:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

dreas (atovorni@engr.UVic.CA) wrote:
: In article 14228@rs6000.bham.ac.uk, pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Guy Pickering) writes:
: 
: >But how big is this book dreas? You seem to be completing it very quickly.
: 
: About twenty pages of fine print so far. It's a good start and
: very far from being completed. Only started writing it two days ago. </.)
: 
: Gimme a break!
: 
: dreas
: 

But dreas, will you still remember us when you are rich and famous?

Come to think of it, you are famous already!

Guy

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| E-MAIL: G.PICKERING@uk.ac.bham | University of Birmingham,               |
| Tel: (021) 414 4340            | Edgbaston, Birmingham. B15 2TT.         |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet)
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:36:46 GMT

In article <1gpoduINNqva@mirror.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.205235.23250@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>}The allergist told me to get a dog.  [...]
>
>There are two breeds of cat that can be suitable for folks with allergies.
>The Cornish Rex lacks guard hairs (it's sometimes called the Poodle Cat),
>and the Sphynx is almost naked.  The latter cat was bred in Canada, too,
>so I'm surprised that your allergist was unaware of it.
>
My allergist wasn't that keen on me getting a pet, to be frank I think
he tought I was completely nuts.

Allergies to cat are most of the time allergies to the saliva 
in addition to the hair.



-- 
Michele Guillet 			The Communications Research Centre 
3701 Carling Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA, K2H 8S2	tel:613-998-2384
Internet: michele@dgbt.doc.ca	
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:36:02 GMT

In article <15904@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
> 
> I can't believe this.  Three knee jerk responses in a row.  Look at the
> first five words of Lauren's article (If a man asks me out).  It looks to
> me like Lauren is describing a "traditional" date, in which case traditional
> values should hold.  If *I* ask a woman out for dinner (which I assume

I got the same impression from Lauren's post, that the guy was not a close
friend asking another friend to have lunch together, but indeed asking for
the pleasure of her company on a "DATE", in which case I must agree with
John----Warning KNEE JERK Warning...

> Of course in that case this would
> probably take place in a bar and she'd just be a cheap, sleazy, hussy anyway
> and it wouldn't make any difference if I had and class. 

Are there any more like her at home?

> 
> 
> -- 
> | John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |

Larry
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Sailing Tonight
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00:28:08 GMT


I'm leaving town tonight.
Don't know when I'll post again.

I'll probably be back sometime next year.
Happy Holidays (Christmas, New Year, Chanukah, etc.)

May this one be a good one!!!!

dreas
From: rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Summary: ISO my tribe
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:00:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Michigan Technological University

In article <1h0nijINNf8u@mirror.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>
>My source is the Census Bureau.  Their range is 1946 through 1964.

   Oh my!  I'm a boomer!  All these years I've thought myself as a
member of the generation between the not-me sixties and the me
eighties.  *sniff*  I feel so uplifted by this fact.  I feel so,
so complete now.  Now I gotta find me a POW (or two) to clue me
in to my lost generations wherabouts.  They seem to have vanished?

Help!

   songbird - at rest
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: marcia@netcom.com (Marcia)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: The Dolphin Conspiracy, Phase II
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:30:46 GMT

In article <8103@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>I had to listen to a male friend bitching about this last night, and I
>never know quite what to say.  I mean, *I* ask men out, so what more am
>I supposed to do about it?

I have also never quite known what they want....I have been the asker on a 
good half of the "dates" I've gone on. (Got turned down some too, for the 
curious.) I don't feel I should have to sit there and feel guilty because some
members of my gender don't. Or apologize for them.

Maybe bemoan the man's lack of taste in choosing women who won't ask :-)?
-- 
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"Sweaty Snugglebunnies."                                     mlb@cisco.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract 
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:12:02 GMT

Allow me to add my voice to the clamor.  Should I be presented
with Mr. Tickle Monster's Pre-Sex Contract, said presenter would
not ever get another date with me.  I wouldn't even bother
"negotiating" terms.  I'd just tell him "Hasta la vista, baby."

This whole argument is akin to complaining that the ocean is wet.

-- 
Maddi Hausmann                madhaus@netcom.com
Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

Centigram Communications Corp, San Jose California  408/428-3553
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster)
Subject: Re: Duck and Jive (was Re: Pre-Sex Contract )
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:50:45 GMT

In article <15998@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>Oh, it's Friday, and I'm in a cheery, cheery, mood, and life is good and
>all and let's see what we've got on news today...
>
> [deleted]
> 
>A another brilliant gem.  Stuff this back up there with the rest of your crap.
>

     Remember that she wrote two or three articles that contained ad hom
attacks that I did not respond to in kind.  I finally got tired of
her attacks and decided to launch one of my own.  Get on her for bringing
the discussion into the gutter.  I would have much rather have kept
it at a higher level.

-- 
"Blind faith in your leaders or anything will get you killed." B. Springsteen
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 /   // Mr. Tickle Monster   // Amiga ++---------------------------------+
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From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:08:48 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <5300049@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis) writes:
>I hate to say this, but I feel that it is very tough for a male in his
>late teens and early 20's.  All the women/girls are very tough to date.
>They play so many mind games at that age.  From my own experiences, when
>I was that age, it was very difficult/nearly impossible to get a date,
>much less a relationship.  Now that I am getting older (33), there are
>more women that are availble.  
>A bit cynical, but life is bitch.....

You speak the truth, Kirk.  I had the same experiences.  When I was
in my late teens, early twenties, I just about couldn't buy a date. 
Then all of a sudden it seemed, in my latter 20's, I was like a 
kid in a playground.  I could get just about any woman I wanted.  
It was like that up until I got married this year.  In fact, I 
know I could *still* get any woman I wanted, although I'm not
going to try, because I *am* married.  But Kirk is definitely
right.  At Kirk's age, [early 30's] he has it made.  He can
easily date women from 18-45.  I've said it before, the man at
this age has it made because he can date either the mothers or 
the daughters, and get away with it.  So many women at this age,
are divorced with kids, and they are looking to latch onto a man
so the pickings are enormous for the men.  Enjoy yourself Kirk,
reap the fruits of your earlier disappointments in life.  And
no, you are not cynical.
--Keith
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Je suis fini et j'ai fini
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:22:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: lion.JMD.92Dec16112219
Distribution: na
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: diamond@acpub.duke.edu's message of 15 Dec 92 17:54:33 GMT


In article <8009@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

               ("Gee, professor, I *would* have finished the exam, but my
   hippocampal complex perished from an overdose of Dr. Pepper and fatigue
   poisons, and the time-limited retrograde amnesia often seen as a result
   of hippocampal damage caused me to forget all about the final exam.")

You fail the exam.  If you _really_ knew your stuff you would have
expected hippocampal complex damage from the combination of Dr. Pepper
and fatigue poisons, and would have avoided the situation... :-) :-)

Spidey!!!


--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: Bad Timing
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:57:21 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Dec12160246@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>Well, I think we're mostly disagreeing over whether we're agreeing or
>not.  My point isn't that people can carry on day to day life while
>being addicted, but rather that for some reason things which are
>addicting to some are normal and non-addicting to others.

Agreed.  Damn, Charlie, the least you could do is give me something to 
disagree with.  You're no fun.

>I guess I just am coming across contentious today, because that reads to
>me as a restatement of what I was trying to say.  *Addiction* is a
>problem -- but sex (work) (shopping) as a thing it itself *isn't*.

Ok. I think I understand what you are trying to say and I guess
we do agree on this as well.  The 'thing' or focus of the addiction
as you say, is not in and of itself necessarily a problem.  The
problem is the addictive personality.  It is quite common to switch
addictions, too.

>When a 12-stepper says as step one that he/she has no control over the
>locus of addiction that's an important acknowledgement about themself.
>But acribing magical powers to the locus of addiction -- rather than
>dealing with the addiction as a personal problem -- seems to me to be a
>sophisticated form of denial.

I would also have to agree.




--
              For flavor, instant sex will never supercede 
              the stuff you have to peel and cook. 
                                  -- Quentin Crisp
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ca.driving
Subject: Re: Red light at 3AM - moral question?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:29:04 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

I remember once sitting at a red light and watching as a guy on a motorcycle
pulled up in the turn lane next to me.  He sat there and then started 
gestureing towards the light sort of asking for it to change.  He did this
a couple of times and I could see that he was getting a bit upset.  Finally,
he had enough and put the kickstand down on his bike and started over to
hit the crosswalk button when the light turned green.  He got back on his
motorcycle and as he pulled through the intersection he flipped off the
light.  His performance was quite humorous to watch.

-- 
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| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:59:39 GMT

In article <102594@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>
>My, this is getting interesting.
>
>OK, here's a scenario.  This happened about a month ago to a friend of
>mine.  Let's call her Jane.  She hadn't dated anyone in a long time.  A man
>she didn't know well but who seemed nice asked her out to dinner and a
>symphony orchestra concert.  Let's call him Sam.  She said yes.  They'd
>never been out together before.
>
>The big evening arrives.  He asks her to drive to the restaurant and meet
>him there (she lives quite far away).  Fine.  They meet at the restaurant,
>and she discovers that another couple will be joining them.  She knows the
>man in the other couple pretty well (call him Joe), and they're friends, so
>she's a bit surprised but thinks it's fine.  They eat dinner.  The check
>comes.  Joe pays for himself and his date.  Sam, however, only pays his
>half of the bill, leaving Jane to pay her half.  
>
>They get to the concert.  "By the way," says Sam, "the ticket is $40." 
>(Joe, meanwhile, has paid for his date.)  So Jane pays that, too.

Lauren,
It seems that what we have here.....
.... is a failure to communicate, on the parts of the persons involved.

It seems to me that the man _assumed_ that the date would be "dutch",
while the woman went in _assuming_ that the date would be "traditional",
therefore, the problem.  If homey was clearly expecting "dutch", then
he could have let homegirl in on the secret _beforehand_.  I think that
the proper "on-site" etiquette, is for the inviter to assume that it
is his/her treat, unless/until the invitee offers to kick-in.  I think
that the bit about "springing" the concert tix price at the door of the
theatre was especially tacky.  I could really care less about how the
other couple managed the expenses.

Keith R
>
................... quiz deleted ..........................
> 
>-- 
>The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
>if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 19 Dec 92 08:45:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <oneil.724740666@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>
>>Not all women have the same taste as the men who might be interested
>>in them.
>
>True.  It doesn't really matter as much to me what a person looks like, as
>long as they are healthy and take reasonably good care of themselves.

Sounds like I might be your perfect mate.  Plus, I'm cute on top of it all.
>Whereas you make the comment:
>
>>Really depends on how much they weigh.  

This was a joke.  I was asked if all I wanted to do was to try to
"pick up" women.  
I commend you on your standards.  
>
>>(Seriously, if you knew me, you would know my primary goal is to get
>>to know a woman and develop a close, mutually fullfilling and warm
>>relationship.)
>
>>That should take up the first 2 or 3 hours.  Then onto my secondary
>>goal.......hot and steamy sex the rest of the night
>
>I assume you're kidding.  If not, maybe you should reread what you've written.

This time you assume, correctly.

>I'll explain it to you very well.  

No need to explain to me what I have written.  I am quite aware of my
thoughts and feelings.  But if I ever loose my faculties, I'll keep you 
in mind.  ;-)

					Steve
>oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
>
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract 
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:17:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.163407.5960@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:
>	In today's article the self-proclaimed Mr. Tickle Monster
>has come out with the latest in a rash of rather scary thoughts:
>
>P.S.  I do have to say that you are the only person in all my years on
>      the net where your personal demeanor matches your net.demeanor.
>      One look at you and I realized that you are an uptight, angry
>      young kid.  You are so tightly wound up that you can see the
>      shit oozing between the cracks...
>
 
Seesters?

 
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From: the lost cause
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Localities
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:41:24 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: jd-next.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Dec11.064240.3377@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA  
(dreas) writes:
$ 
$ It appears that if we are to discover the many facets of our 
$ personality, it is imperative that we live in different places on this
$ planet as we travel through this lifetime.
$ 
$ Has anyone else experienced something like this?
$ 
$ dreas 

I don't know if it is necessary to do so, but it certainly appears to help  
the process along. Having been born and raised in "small-town USA", then  
not living there for 14 years (VA, SC, FL, MS, CHItown, NC), then  
returning to live there again, I can see many differences between myself  
now, and what I may have been had I never left at all. I put it down to  
the "seeing the world" phenomina.
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