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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:43:41 -0400
From:         SYSTEM@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU
Subject:      Please remove

Please remove:

jopearlstein@vassar.edu

or

jopearlstein@vaxsar.vassar.edu

She is no longer at the college.

Thanks.

Bill Wine
System Manager
Vassar College
biwine@vassar.edu
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:12:29 CST
From:         Jeremy Hickman <JH5260@ETSUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The University of Washington student gov't is online
              18 Dec 1992 11:26:31 -0800 from <asuw@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>

We're glad to see ASUW online.

I am fairly new to the list (a few weeks) and this is my first posting
to it.  I am the newly elected President of the Senate at East Texas
State University.  The University is located in Commerce, TX, which is
about one hour NE of Dallas.  One of the things that has come up so far
during my presidency is the fact that our Consititution, Standing Rules,
and other documents are not in proper working order.  I've already begun
to help correct the situation by comissioning a committee to work on the
documents (yes, I know what USUALLY happens when you send something into
committe, but it won't happen this time [yeah, right?]).
At any rate, I would be happy to receive help or advice from any of you
out there who have gone through the same sort of situation.  If you
would like to send me instruction, a strucural analysis of your
documents, copies of your documents, or whatever else, SEND AWAY!!!

Also, Commerce is a small town with about eight thousand residents.  The
University, likewise, has about eight thousand students.  The problem is
that most of the students don't stick around in the town long enough to
liven the place up.  As a result, we (though not me) are constantly
calling ourself a *suitcase school*.  There are a few bars around town
that are filled to capacity on Thursday nights (the University's
unofficial party night), but beyond that, Commerce is thought of by all
as a pretty lame town.  As an official resident of Commerce and a
registered Hunt county voter, I would have to agree that the town lacks
excitement.  My question/thesis is this:  If any of you have some
suggestions as to what we could do to keep people around on the weekends
or just liven up the town, let me know.


So long for now and Happy Holidays!

=========================================================================

JEREMY HICKMAN, PRESIDENT
STUDENT SENATE
STUDENT GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION                    *****
EAST TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY                       *****
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(903) 886-5822  [MESSAGE]
From: paschman@cpp.ob.open.de (Uwe Paschmann)
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Subject: Software for Music Publishing
Date: 26 Dec 1992 10:52:32 GMT
Organization: Wofuer Organisation
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.cpp.ob.open.de

Hi,

we want to publish an new songbook in Germany and looking
for a software to do this easy as possible. 

In art of WYSIWIG we want to see simultaneous lines of notes
and songtext. And if we can generate the music notes with an
YAMAHA-Keyboard with Midi-Interface.... super!

Is there any product we can use? Who can help us?

Uwe
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 00:40:26 -0800
Reply-To:     Gary Bradfield <gary@GARCORP.COM>
From:         Gary Bradfield <gary@GARCORP.COM>
Subject:      Digital Librarian not Indexing?

List,

I'm having problems with Digital Librarian after installing NS 3.0.
If I simply drag a folder to My bookshelf, it won't search it. It
will show all the titles, but any search comes up with Zero hits.
I've re-indexed, updated index etc. to no avail.

Interestingly, It will find hits in any files added to My bookshelf
through the Services->Librarian->Jot Message In....

I can also search any of the NeXT-created bookshelves (i.e. SysAdmin
etc.).

It must be related to permissions or groups in the user manager, but
I can't figure it out.

If it's really stupid, please reply privately....  ;)


Gary Bradfield
Gary@GarCorp.com   (NeXTmail spoken here)
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:27:44 GMT
Reply-To:     M.Crawford@DCS.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK
From:         M.Crawford@DCS.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK
Subject:      OmniImageFilter

OmniImageFilter seems to have provoked a lot of interest!
I've had a number of requests for copies (on NeXT-L), and I gather Paul
Burford (NeXT-UK) has been innundated, so I hope the following is of general
interest...

(On NeXT-L) I pointed out that some of the features of OmniImageFilter are
similar to those of Pixel Magician's Image Agent.  Since a chap at Bacchus
(I'm not sure if I should say who?) asked for a copy of OmniImageFilter I
asked if he could give me a quick comparison of the two.  Here's a summary of
his initial findings:

Background
----------
Image Agent(TM) and Pixel Magician(TM) are two separate products. Image Agent
is a collection of drag/drop image filters for NS 3.0. Pixel Magician is a
more sophisticated image conversion application providing mass image
conversion, bi-directional conversions, precise scaling, variable aspect
ratios and image resolutions, alpha channel support, dithering, color
quantization and flexible output options. Image Agent is included free with
Pixel Magician product or can be purchased separately.


Initial observations and comparisons between Image Agent and OmniImageFilter
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Some of the sample image files which the Image Agent filter set can open,
OmniImageFilter cannot open, e.g. 24 bit PCX files, and many PICT and TGA
files

- OmniImageFilter seemed to hang e.g. after trying to image a file which it
could not handle, some of the filter services stopped working altogether.


- OmniImageFilter opens images a little faster than Image Agent. Image Agent
V1.1, now in development, has additional optimisation that should make up
this small difference in imaging time.

- Image Agent filters understand and maintain alpha channels, dpi/aspect
ratio information.  It was not immediately clear whether OmniImageFilter
could handle these items, e.g. Pixel Magician was used to create a PICT file
with 200 Xdpi and 100 Ydpi which OmniImageFilter could not read.

- Image Agent provides an animation on the dock while imaging a file,
providing valuable feedback.


Malcolm's Summary
-----------------

If you liked OmniImageFilter, you'll probably like Image Agent even more.  If
you're serious about this sort of thing I'd say that $99 is not much to pay.
The extra functionality of Pixel Magician won it four cubes in the NeXTWORLD
review, so that should speak for itself!  Furthermore, NUG leaders should
note that there is currently a special offer from Bacchus which should make
it even more attractive!

Have fun,

Malcolm.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:20:24 EST
Reply-To:     Michael Friendly <FRIENDLY@VM1.YORKU.CA>
From:         Michael Friendly <FRIENDLY@VM1.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      next keyboard generated codes

Can someone tell me where I can find a complete list of the codes generated
by special keys on the NeXT keyboard -- cursor keys, numeric pad, etc.,
together with <command> and <alt> combinations.

e.g., it looks like the arrow up/down keys generate esc-A, esc-B, but
I'd like to be sure and to know the rest.

-Michael
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From: ai094@yfn.ysu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Subject: Mac <-> NeXT conversions
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 09:17:26 GMT


 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 
Happy New Year all,
 
Does anyone have the UNIX end of MacLayers running on a NeXT?
 
Does anyone know how to convert NeXT .snd and .vox files to 
system 7 Mac sounds?
 
Is there a UNIX command to change only the first occurrence of 
the string "\rtf0" to "\rtf1" in a file without using ed, vi, 
etc.?
 
Perennially inquisitive, Kelly Cunningham
<deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> NeXTMail (favored) MIME (ok)
<f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> VMS Mail (tolerated)
<jkellyc@tenet.edu> MIME (ok)
"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in 
their home."
-- Ken Olson, President and visionary, Digital Equipment, 1977
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:44:00 PST
Reply-To:     Michael Gersten <michael@STB.INFO.COM>
From:         Michael Gersten <michael@STB.INFO.COM>
Subject:      Page up and page down

To page up and down, you alt-click on the up/down arrows
at the bottom of the slider. This gives you one page at a
time instead of one line at a time.

                Michael
--
        Michael Gersten         michael@stb.info.com
NeXT Registered Developer (NeRD) # 3860 -- Hire me! Quick!
Will program computers for food (and net connection, health benefits, cash,...)
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:30:41 GMT
Reply-To:     M.Crawford@DCS.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK
From:         M.Crawford@DCS.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK
Subject:      FAO (friends of) Todd Chamberlain

My apologies for sending this to all -
I'm trying to get a mail to Todd Chamberlain (todd@aussie.cmhnet.org)
but am being bounced all the way - if a friend could volunteer to
forward 300k of NeXTMail I, and I'm sure he, would be grateful.
Alternatively, Todd, if you manage to get this (I presume you will)
could you suggest an alternative mail route?

Have fun,

Malcolm.
m.crawford@uk.ac.shef.dcs
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:46:59 -0800
Reply-To:     Kjell Nilsson <kjell@OOPS.SE>
From:         Kjell Nilsson <kjell@OOPS.SE>
Subject:      Bad Block

Help

When I tried to mount my OD my NeXT told me it was damaged and he could not
 repair it.
And worse, he did not mount it because of this. And in the console I read....

/usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rod0a
od0a: read recover (PLL failed) block 9608 phys block 9960 (4771:0:8)
.......
od0a: read recover (ECC) block 9608 phys block 9960 (4771:0:8)
od0a: read recover (ECC) block 9608 phys block 9960 (4771:0:8)
/dev/rod0a: CANNOT READ: BLK 9608
/dev/rod0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.

I know that the unix comand   "disk"   has an option  "bad" that can lock bad
 blocks out .
But I dont understand the format in which Im suppose to edit the bad block
 table.

disk... bad askes first about an entry and then about a block????

Please is there anybody out there who could help me out of this.

For now   Merry Christmas  to all of you in the list. I think that the NeXT
 comunity of

net people are so nice and helpful, and I wish you all well.

/Kjell at OOPS in Sweden
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:21:05 -0800
Reply-To:     Michael Ross <antigone!mross@NETCOM.COM>
From:         Michael Ross <antigone!mross@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Page up/Page down

Thanks to all who replied to my Pageup/down query. Sorry it was RTFM;
it was late...

Michael

---
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: antigone!mross@netcom.com
FAX: 1-415-431-3650
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:39:25 -0800
Reply-To:     mross@antigone.com
From:         Michael Ross <antigone!mross@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Modifying rc.local

I'm really confused.

I'm trying to get a program to execute when I turn the NeXT on. This
program, 'start', spawns a daemon 'serverd' and must be run by the
user 'server'. I have added a line to /etc/rc.local so that it looks
like this:

#####################################
# Read in configuration information
. /etc/hostconfig

(echo -n 'local daemons:')
>/dev/console
#
# Run your own commands here
#
su server -c '/usr/server/start -cr >/dev/console' && (echo -n '
listserv') >/dev/console
#
#
(echo '.')
>/dev/console
####################################

During the boot process, the console echoes 'local daemons:', the
output of the start program,  and the final '.' properly. However '
listserv' never appears, meaning the previous su... was unsuccessful.
And, indeed, the daemon spawned by 'start' is no longer is the list
of processes running (seen with 'ps -ax') when I first login.

The frustrating thing is that the su.... line works fine when
executed from a Terminal shell as root!


Can anyone tell me why this process is dying at startup and what can
I do to the rc.local file to make it stay? It looks like  either when
the 'su' subshell exits, it kills all processes it has spawned, or su
is returning an exit error code, but not 'saying' anything to the
console....

Thanks for any suggestions and.... MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

Michael

---
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: 1-415-431-3650
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:15:29 -0800
Reply-To:     Michael Ross <antigone!mross@NETCOM.COM>
From:         Michael Ross <antigone!mross@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Page up/Page down

My original cube keyboard does not have Page Up/Page Down keys (I
don't know if pizza boxes do or not).

My one beef with the NeXT interface is the departure from the "norm"
as to what clicking in the slide bar but not on the slider itself
means. This should produce a page-up, or page-down, i.e. move the
screen up or down by one screenful. However, it was decided by the
gods at NeXT that it should mean "go to the place in the document
where I clicked, assuming the top of the slide bar is the beginning,
and the bottom is the end". Very nice indeed as a quick way to get to
the top or bottom, but how about paging without scrolling?

Has someone provided a patch for this? (Where are Mac-style INITs
when you need them?)

Michael

---
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross%antigone@netcom.com
FAX: 415-431-3650
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:15:00 EST
Reply-To:     Jonathan Hendry <tjhendry@MCS.DREXEL.EDU>
From:         Jonathan Hendry <tjhendry@MCS.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      8n1 w/ tip on a NeXT

How can I set things up so that when I run tip to call a BBS I will be
set up with 8-n-1? I've been RTFM, but haven't been able to divine the
answer.

Thanks,

Jon
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:14:55 EST
From:         "James G. Carrier" <jgc5p@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Symon, Bishop of Ely
Comments: To: history%rutvm1.BITNET@Virginia.EDU

30 December, 1992

Dear Folks,

     While visiting my wife's grandmother over Christmas I spent some time
going through the books under her stairway. One that I came across was:

Symon, Lord Bishop of Ely: Commentary upon the First Book of Moses, Called
Genesis. (3rd ed.) London: 1704.

Except for being mouse-eaten on two corners it was in good shape.
     Does anyone know anything about this book, other than the fact that it
is a shockingly-old thing to find tucked away in a private residence?

          Yours,

          James G. Carrier

29, University Circle / Charlottesville, Virginia, 22903
(804) 971-2983 / jgc5p@virginia.edu
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:52:42 -0500
Reply-To:     "Cheryl P. Lewis" <cpl@po.CWRU.Edu>
From:         "Cheryl P. Lewis" <cpl@PO.CWRU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Merry Christmas|
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

Dear Mr. Zielke:

I truly hope that you had a very happy Christmas, and that the
new year will have wonderful blessings in store for you.

--
Cheryl Lewis           (216) 368-2792
Circulation Assistant   cpl@po.cwru.edu
Law Library
Case Western Reserve University
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From:         GPGPO@BASIN.CRC.UNO.EDU
Subject:      nomail

set history nomail
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:29:22 -0500
From:         JFOX@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      WEATHER DATA
Comments: To: HISTORY%RUTVM1.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU

For research on a casualty insurance company I am trying to determine how
many hurricanes and tornadoes hit eastern and southeastern U.S. between 1940
and the present.  World Almanac has a selective, not a complete listing.  Is
there a data base that I could access which would have this information.  Any
suggestions would be helpful.
the list you can email to me at
JFOX@ECN.MASS.EDU

Thank you.
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:48:51 -0800
From:         u8042002 <u8042002@MIS.NSYSU.EDU.TW>
Subject: Re: Warmest greetings ...
Comments: To: HISTORY%RUTVM1.bitnet@twnmoe10.edu.tw

Thanks for Val's greetings!
This is a "warm" discussion I feel.
Merry X'mas and Happy New Year! Hope everyone enjoys nice holidays!
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:21:11 CET
From:         Thomas Zielke <113355@DOLUNI1.BITNET>
Subject:      Merry Christmas|
Comments: To: history@psuvm.BITNET, histownr@ubvm.BITNET,
          emhist-l@rutvm1.BITNET, grmnhist@uscvm.BITNET

Dear Friends,

1992 has been a very exciting and successful year for me - we finally
could start the History Network initiative, and we hope to get it
ready until Summer 1993. Electronic communication has become even
more widely spread and used in our profession, and I think this
process will become faster and faster in the next years.

Anyway, let me wish you a very happy and merry Christmas and a Happy
New Year - or whatever holiday you may have in this time of the year.
Let us hope that our world will become more peaceful than it has been
this year, and let us not forget those who suffer from plagues, from
famine or war.

(I won't be on-line from Dec 23 till Jan 4, so please be patient when
sending mail to me.)

With best regards,

Thomas Zielke

Historisches Seminar
Universit{t Oldenburg

Postfach 2503
D-W-2900 Oldenburg
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 09:32:16 EST
From:         Tom Powers <TPOWERS@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lowry speaking on electronic texts
              30 Dec 1992 12:05:00 CST from <ABENSON3@UA1VM.UA.EDU>

On Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:05:00 CST <ABENSON3@UA1VM.UA.EDU> said:
>Dear friends at NEACH:
>     I would be interested in obtaining a copy of the speech that Anita
>Lowry gave on ELECTRONIC TEXTS AND LIBRARIES, 15 Dec 1992.  If it's possible to
>obtain a copy, I would appreciate your assistance.  Thank you.
>
>Allen C. Benson   abenson3@ua1vm.ua.edu


I'd like one of those too. I tried sending the request directly to the
e-mail address given for Lowry, but it didn't get through.

Tom Powers
The University of South Carolina at Sumter
Sumter SC 29150
TPOWERS@UNIVSCVM  or TPOWERS@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
or TPOWERS@USCSUMTER.USCSU.SCAROLINA.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:51:02 +0100
From:         Walter Felscher <iikfe01@MAILSERV.ZDV.UNI-TUEBINGEN.DE>
Subject:      Re: Does knowing history make any difference in policy?
Comments: To: HISTORY@ibm.gwdg.de

While President Wilson's ideas were no doubt noble and, apparently,
influenced by his knowledge as a historian, their realization was
anything but successful. The USA did not join the league of nations,
and the Paris peace treaties of 1919 resulted in a mockery if the
good intentions of Wilson's 14 points. They actually set the stage
for Hitler and WWII.  [read "of" instead of "if" above]

Walter Felscher, Tuebingen
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:21:39 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Does knowing history make any difference in policy?

On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:42:32 EDT Dale Lally said:
>Obviously, as a professor of History, Pres Wilson was, IMHO, woefully
>aware of the disadvantages of US isolationism.  However, I am not yet
>willing to agree that his 14 points and the Versailles treaty were the
>prime reasonsfor the rise of Hitler and WW II.
>
I don't think Walter was really saying that Wilson's ideas were the prime
reasons, but only how they were alternately ignored, misunderstood, and
abused (if he isn't, then I am.  I see the 14 points as a direct answer to
Lenin & credit Wilson for considerably more astuteness than any other western
leader at the time.).

>Had the Allies forced the military situation and inflicted a complete defeat
>in the field on the German army, this important psychological weapon would
>not have been available to Hitler or ANY OTHER similarly inclined future
>German leader.

The rancor of a complete defeat would have been nearly as bad, I think.
The biggest problem was forcing a severe loss on Germany, failing to make the
same good between the wars, and not making them an active partner in making
a new order in Europe on the other hand.  A policy that cannot do one thing
or the other has little chance of success.
>
>IMHO, this is the reason why the WW II allies decided on a total defeat and
>unconditional surrender of both Germany and Japan.   They wanted to make it
>perfectly clear to both nations, for all time (or 40 years, whichever comes
>first) that the use of war and genocide to further national interests will
>be met with a very very painful response.
>
No argument here.
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 11:51:43 EST
From:         Ed Haupt <haupt@PILOT.NJIN.NET>
Subject:      Re: Lowry speaking on electronic texts
Comments: To: History <HISTORY@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu>

She is moving to the University of Iowa to start another project there.
I guess you can try the postmaster there.
        Ed Haupt
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:13:35 +1000
From:         Marion Diamond <med@LINGUA.CLTR.UQ.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Re: Does knowing history make any difference in policy?
Comments: To: HISTORY%RUTVM1.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

Churchill certainly purported to know a lot of history, and he actually
won the Nobel prize for literature - a travesty, IMHO - but I remember
hearing somewhere that his research assistant for the History of the
English Speaking Peoples was (Sir) Maurice Ashley, who actually wrote the
thing.  Can't remember where I heard this - does anybody know if it is
true?
Marion Diamond
med@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au
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