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From:         Barry Frampton <wtm@SHELDEV.SHEL.ISC-BR.COM>
Subject:      Need info help

Note from Bill McGarry: This is actually from:

    Barry.Frampton@f2.n157.z1.fidonet.org

I logged onto this BBS for the first time in hopes of finding
information or support groups pertaining to AUTISM. Is this subject
not as yet listed or is it consolidated with one of your other
listings? I have a 6 year old son who has this disorder of Autism.
There is very little information or even help for Autistic persons.
It's practically non existent. And help from school districts to
educate the autistic children is almost a lost cause, especially in
our school district. If anyone has information pertaining to the
subject of AUTISM please reply by E-Mail by leaving a message on
this BBS or the Gateway 2000 BBS for BARI at 1-605-232-2224, or
write to me at address below. I am especially in hardware similar
to the Muppet Baby Keyboard or software for his education. Any...
ANY...information you can give me on this subject would be greatly
appreciated! Thank you. Barry Frampton 1356 Eau Claire Road
Harrisville PA 16038 412-735-2087



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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:24:34 EDT
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dan's restaurant experience
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              Aug 27, 92 1:32 pm

Well, the days of my summer vacation are down to one.

As I've been following the wedding plans, and cooking
a pot of squash & zuchini, I've got a suggestion
that Lauren's probably already thought of. Have
the wedding at a small and familiar place, and have
some extra "practices" so Dan feels relaxed thru it
all. (No, Dan practice the parts UP TO the wedding
night ... you don't practice THE WEDDING NIGHT!)

Another brainstorm: Dan could take up the study of
etiquette. Read books on it. Practice it. Why? From
what you said, Dan, it could make Lauren's father
happy, and you oughta want to make him happy --
without him you wouldn't have Lauren!! Lauren's
girls may be old enough to have fun helping you
practice and learn. Maybe doing "dinner in a fancy
restaurant" at home, taking turns being the waiter?
Actually, Dan, fancy retaurants are no picnic for
lots of people. Menus? Pick something basic and
order it every time (steak or shrimp) without ever
even opening the menu. Smells? Make the reservations
for before the "crowd" arrives. Study and practice.
Practice and study.

     Anne
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Dan,

Yep, being stroked makes me 'purr' too. :-)

I think the difficulty I had with word problems in primary school was mainly
due to a combination of short term memory deficit and eyesight problems - I
could do them but they just took a lot longer to do that any problem already
in mathematical notation.

The only problem I had with calculus was in trying to remember some of those
specific results that I never found a way of working out from first principles,
e.g. integrating 1/x or anything involving exponentials - never could get the
hang of them.

Carolyn
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From:         LNCJB@CC.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Concept of marriage
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Dan,

You wrote:-

>        Not at all.  I don't want to get into a moral argument with you here,
>but it seems reasonably obvious that for you the concept of marriage has
>significantly different purposes and implications than it does for me.

There's no moral argument at all. God has blessed 'our marriage' we just aren't
choosing to let the State in on it yet. :-)  I think that you'd find our
concepts of marriage don't differ that much.

Carolyn
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From:         MICHELLE HALL <GR4522@SIUCVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Power Analysis

Tim-

A book by Rosenthal on meta-analysis (I don't have the exact citation, but
it is published by Sage, and they just published a revised edition this
year) has several formulas for transforming F-values, t-values, etc. into
effect size estimates.  I've used some of the formulas, and they are
pretty easy to use.  Another reference on power analysis is:
Lipsey, M. (1990).  _Design Sensitivity_ Sage
This too is a real good book, and relatively easy to understand (at least
when I was studying for prelims it was, when I actually was taking the
class it seemed a lot harder :) ).  I hope this might help some, good
luck.

Michelle Hall
Southern Illinois University at Carbondale
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Psych-iatry vs -ology?
              3 Sep 1992 00:05:55 -0400 from <zorrilla@CATTELL.PSYCH.UPENN.EDU>

Eric,
   Sorry, but I still don't see an overriding reason to go to all the
trouble for prescription privileges.
1. Research: Using medical specialists is part of biopsychosocial research.
We do things with MRI's, PET and CT scans without being qualified to run
the machines; we work in dental pain without drilling teeth. In this case
I see MDs as collaborators at best and technicians at worst.
2. Therapy: As before, it's easier and probably better for everyone to find
a doc you can work with. Patients are sometimes confused, but it's not hard
to clear up the distinction (kids love it because we're not "shot doctors").
We have no trouble impressing our patients here at Shands Hospital because
they love the time, attention and concern we give them as opposed to the docs.
I think 99 percent of the prestige question is in-house. That is, within the
health/social science professions, which leads to ...
3. Politics: Psychiatrists are the bottom of the medical hierarchical barrel.
They gross about twice what clinical psychologists make but less than every
other medical specialty. They make more than us mainly on inpatient work.
You can be sure they will fight to keep their script pads and admitting
privileges to themselves to the very end. I'd rather have the admitting
privileges than the prescriptions anyway.
  By the way, we file complaints against psychiatrists who perform the
work of clinical psychologists for which they arenot qualified, such as
performing certain types of personality testing and assessments. It's
NOT as though they can do anything we can. In fact, my personal view is
that they are trained to perform very few functions compared to us.
Tim
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From:         Betty Harris <B1H6017@TAMVENUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Hello again!

Hiya       (to all of you who haven't seen me on here yet!)
and Rehiya (to those who may remember me. *grin*)

After putting up with the heavy traffic from this list for a couple of
months, I turned off my mail from the list (cuz I really didn't
have the time or motivation to plow thru all the postings).  Well
yesterday I saw a posting on another list that informed me that psycgrad
could now be accessed via psygrd-d which is a daily compilation by subject
of the postings to psycgrad!  Imagine my surprise and delight! *laugh*
It even has an index so I can just jump down to the section of interest!!!
(It only took me 15 minutes to read thru the postings for a WHOLE day
of psycgrad!)  So I guess that this means that you guys are doomed to
hafta put up with me again (or delete me on sight!).  *laugh*  By the
way you ought to check psygrd-d out if you'd like a more efficient
way of reading psycgrad.

To refresh your memory, I'm a grad student in Social Psych at TX A&M Univ.
Should be finished with my PhD next July. *Crosses her fingers*  I'm still
doing research on the development of emotional and physical intimacy in
romantic/dating relationships as well as sexual behavior/beliefs/AIDS risk
and would like to hear from other people doing similar research.

Betty
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Subject: Looking for Graduate Schools with a Sleep Behavior Research Program.
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:05:58 GMT
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I am looking for information about Psych Grad Schools with a program
in sleep behaviors research. Please any and all information would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      International Question

I have a question for the non-Americans or perhaps the non-North-Americans.
What do you use for diagnostic criteria categories? I've been researching
the diagnosis of depression. We of course use the DSM-III-R as a rule but
also pick up on some other criteria measures such as the Research
Diagnostic Criteria, but only for research. I haven't seen any references
to a set of agreed-upon criteria in the British literature. What's used
out there in the far-flung corners?
Tim
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From:         "Belle.Liang" <22408MGR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      set nomail

Please help me terminate my participation in the psycgrad bulletin.  I will
no longer be able to check this mail.  Thank you.
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Subject:      Re: We are married!

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        I wish the best for both of ya!!!!  :)


Steve
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: discussion versus "trapping"
              27 Aug 1992 04:44:56 -0400 from <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>

  I'd like to concur with Julie who reiterated that this discussion is
not about ending debate, disagreement or confrontation. Surely my note
and others' on this topic were anything but non-confrontational.
   Nor is it about whether intellectual exercises are "nice" or not, as
if this were a call for all people with brains to be milquetoasts, or
whether we, even we fuzzy-brained clinical types, can distance ourselves
from our ideas. But it is about the process of laying traps, playing
"gotcha" games, and the use of specious and gratuitous arguments rather
than the exchange of opinion and knowledge.
   For example, if I am a Freudian expert and I lay a trap for some of you
to step into, such as the debate over the abandonment of the child abuse
theory, then flood you with quotes and prepackaged opinions on it once you
pick up the gauntlet, it serves no purpose except my own ego, probably at
the cost of your own. That is not debate or confrontation.
It's a zero-sum game that assumes, as one of the writers has already
stated in defense of trapping, that there is a winner and a loser, a
notion I find naive.
    I don't find the sophistry exciting; I find it very, very tiresome.
The actual debates, however, are definitely worth the computer time.
Tim
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From:         "Lora L. Harpster" <PSYLLH@FREUD.SBS.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:      Any News From So. Florida?
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Hi, Everybody:

     Just wanted to check and see if any of you have heard via e-mail from
anyone in the Miami area?  I have several correspondents down that way and
things are ominously silent.  I have decided that the computer systems must
be down, but that doesn't keep me from worrying about Andrew and its impact.



Loree Harpster  University of Utah  PSYLLH@FREUD.SBS.UTAH.EDU
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From: lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
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     Mostly in response to Eric,
     Actually, in my experience, a large number of people are not even
aware of the difference between a psychologist and a psychiatrist, not even
the difference regarding prescription privileges. Most patients at the
hospital assume I'm an MD, and I've stopped trying to clarify.
     In regards to the reasons given for people wanting prescription
privileges, I seriously question the prestige-enhancing power of prescribing
drugs.  Is this what this should be about?  Call me cynical, but I don't
doubt for a second that this (prestige, power, and $) are the true reasons
many have for wanting to prescribe drugs.
     It occurs to me that having prescription privileges would add yet
another division among psychologists.  Not only would we have the sometimes
nasty division between mostly-clinicians and mostly-researchers (see earlier
discussions re validity and effectiveness of psychological treatments), but
now we would be talking about drug-prescribing-mostly-clinicians vs their
non-prescribing counterparts...
     As if this were not complicated enough, what about the schools of
psychology that simply don't adhere to the so-called medical model?  Would
all students be forced to partake of the new drug-prescribing curricula?  If
not, what would be the "minimum standards" for a clinical education? And
wouldn't we be creating a new power hierarchy within clinical psychology, one
based only in the ability to prescribe drugs?
          Nangel :)
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From:         Eric Zorrilla <zorrilla@CATTELL.PSYCH.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Psych-iatry vs -ology?
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              92 11:38 pm

And the debate continues...  :)

>      Actually, in my experience, a large number of people are not even
> aware of the difference between a psychologist and a psychiatrist, not even
> the difference regarding prescription privileges. Most patients at the
> hospital assume I'm an MD, and I've stopped trying to clarify.

Our experiences GREATLY differ then.  In my work in inpatient depression units
at the Duke Medical Center and here at the Hospital of the University of
Pennsylvania, the great majority of patients are aware of the distinction and
express it in their behavior (types of questions they ask, readiness to believe
biological spiel from psychologist vs what their GP told them prior to admis-
sion, etc.).  It is simply not true that all psychologists, particularly
hospital-set psychologists are only familiar with what we call mind and it's
time we took substantive policy steps to reflect this change in at least one
segment of the field.

>      In regards to the reasons given for people wanting prescription
> privileges, I seriously question the prestige-enhancing power of prescribing
> drugs.

The stigma that mental illness once was (moral defect) is becoming the stigma
of the medical model (your biology is imbalanced).  Doctors who have the
capacity to remedy this "fundamentally biological imbalance" are perceived
as being more powerful, prestigious, etc. (regardless of what the etiology
of the biological changes are, of course).

I really believe it's also a question of efficacious treatment and research.
I have two ongoing research projects for which I had to go find a psychia-
trist willing to go along with my drug administration when similarly or less
well-trained MD students and MD/PhD's are prescribing research drugs to their
hearts' content.  I don't want this to be a pattern in my career.  It implies
some deficiency in my training that does not exist.

Your point about the rift this might exarcebate in psychology is a good one.
Clearly, however, the forces are already there if there IS a push for
prescription privileges by some and a desire to stay away from them by others.
This just reflects markedly different perspectives manifesting themselves in
orientation-appropriate behavior.  The field is already a mess.  What's a few
more wars?

:)

Eric
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Introspection and Science

I still don't get it.  If reporting on one's feelings and thoughts count
as a form of introspection, then it's not only _possible_ to study, it
_is_ being studied.  Paul Eckman is one such example.  Take a look at
the January 1992 issues of Psychological Science -- there is a whole
symposium on recent advances in the study of emotion.  Eckman has
done cross-cultural work in smiling and affective self-reports (via
both interview and behavioral coding).  One of the questions he has
been interested in is whether or not there is a universal process of
feelings (i.e., grief, joy, disgust, sadness, etc.).

To say that there is not a subjective component to this is an obvious
misstatement.  But to say that there is necessarily not an empirical,
*repeatable* methodology being used as a tool is equally disingenuous.

Check out that issue of P.S., though -- it's great stuff!

- Kenn in College Park, Maryland (kwhite@wam.umd.edu)
  * Go Terps! *
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From:         "Kathryn Irene Snyder" <IRENES@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      psychiatry vs ology

I've read all the postings on this subject before and find it quite
interesting, as an issue that affects me but I'd never really thought
about before. (I'm in cognitive). But my question still stands: what
precisely  is the operational distinction between a psychologist with
prescription priveledges and a psychiatrist? I don't see one, and that
could be the reason that psychiatrists oppose giving psychologists that
privelege.
Just wondering...
Irene Snyder
irenes@unc.bitnet
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From:         James Canaday <CANADAY@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Any News From So. Florida?
              31 Aug 1992 23:05:01 EDT from <bengtson@PSY.PSYCH.NOVA.EDU>

Had a question for any of you in the MiamI /Hurricane andrew
devastated areas: are there any special mental health efforts  going for the
survivors?
jc
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Subject:      Re: please give address
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But sometimes we want to know WHERE they are located, and sometimes
systems don't deliver mail with headers intact!
From: HBLANTON@PUCC.BITNET (Hart C. Blanton)
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Subject: Congressional Bill
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:44:42 GMT
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I'm not a member of PSYCGRAD anymore but I thought this would be of
interest to _EVERYONE_ if you haven't already discussed this.  It concerns
MONEY and more to the point, money that Reagan, et al. took from us to
pay for "morning in America".

     Enjoy,  Hart Blanton
             Princeton University
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From: "Trujillo, Keith" <Keith.Trujillo@med.umich.edu>
Subject: (8) Announcement: House Bill H.R. 4418

>House of Representative Bill H.R. 4418
>
>  "Rahman A. Soomro" <rahman@alpha.ces.cwru.edu>]
>
> There is a bill, currently being considered by the U. S. House of
> Representatives which would RETURN THE STIPENDS OF GRADUATE STUDENTS
> TO A TAX EXEMPT STATUS.  Prior to the Reagan-Bush (No New Taxes!) era,
> Graduate Student Stipends were not taxed, and Tom Lewis (R- Florids)
> has proposed a bill which not only would make stipends TAX-EXEMPT, but
> would also RETURN ALL TAXES PAID SINCE 1986 on Grad. income.  The Bill
> is H.R. 4 418 and is currently under consideration, though I am not
> sure if it has cleared committee or not.
>
> To support the bill, call or write your local congressman and ask them
> to support it.
>
> If you do not know who your rep. is, call (800) 347-1997 (THE FEDERAL
> INFOR MATION CENTER) and ask.
>
> Come on folks, lets support our own interests.  All this has about
> gone far enough, don't you think?
>
>      Please put this out on every listserver that you have access to.
>
> John O'Brien
> Indiana University
> Sociology Department
> NIMH program in the measurement of affect and affective processes.
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