HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: FTP QUAKE.THINK.COM
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 22:19:42 GMT

can I get he same info from think.com by FTPing as I could
by telneting to quake.think.com?

HELP
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: mwm@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Information on content navigation
Organization: Anterior Technology, Menlo Park, CA, USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:00:50 GMT

The description of content navigation in the WAIS concept document
made it sound like the perfect solution to a problem I'm currently
working on. However, I couldn't find anything in the bibliography or
WAIS that looked appropriate.

If someone could provide references for information on content
navigatio sufficient to implement at least one such strategy, I'd
appreciate it. A textbook (or portion thereof) suitable for use as an
introductin to the topic in a graduate CS course would be ideal.

	Thanx,
	<mike

Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Are WaisStation and ARA compatible?
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<FAD.92Jul24172419@turing.think.com>
	<16831C641.VSMORTY@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:53:33 GMT

Dr.> == Dr. Morton F. Taragin <VSMORTY@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il> 

 Dr.>  as to the problem why mactcp does not work, I refer to the readme
 Dr.> file whihc states that a copy of the MACtcp control panel must be
 Dr.> in the system folder not in the controls panel folder where system
 Dr.> 7 places it.  (for system 7 of course)

That only applied to versions of MacTCP prior to 1.1; 1.1 is fully
System 7 compatible.

As was stated before, the problem is that WAIStation has to be on the
startup volume (I said "disk" before, which was being slightly sloppy).
--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
   ``The First Amendment is often inconvenient.  But that is besides the
  point.  Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
         to tolerate speech.'' --Justice Anthony Kennedy, in 91-155
From: fhl@milton.u.washington.edu (Dean Pentcheff)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: FAQ?  Beginner's info?
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:26:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul21.172630.24960
Reply-To: dean2@rocky.geol.scarolina.edu (Dean Pentcheff)
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais
Organization: Department of Biology, University of South Carolina, Columbia

Now that I'm finally administering a system with net access (a Sparc
IPC), I'd like to get started with wais.  Where can I find information
about it?  Where can I find code (appropriate for a Sun)?

Thanks.

-Dean
From: 9531sons@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jamie Sonsini)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: WAIS Access to my Mac Hard Drive
Keywords: wais macintosh
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:11:49 GMT
Distribution: comp.infosystems.wais

I've just recently actually read the WAIStation documentation and
noticed that there was a reference to accessing one's hard drive
using WAIS.  Am I right in thinking that this means that I could use
WAIS to actually find things on my own disk?  Following that idea I
tried to create a new source (naming my hard drive as the directory),
but when I tried to use that source I was given a message that a "hash
table" was missing.  (makes sense, I never did anything to actually
index my disk).

If this is possible, can someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

				Jamie Sonsini
				UC Santa Barbara
				9531sons@ucsbvm.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: Jeff E Mandel <mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: Are WaisStation and ARA compatible: SOLUTION
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:31:05 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-20809]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu

In article <1992Jul26.014844.10149@scott.skidmore.edu> ldg@scott.skidmore.edu
(Leo D. Geoffrion) writes:
>In article <CKD.92Jul24210754@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
writes:
>>Ah!  I think I know what the problem is.  0.6.2, at least, *must* be on
>>the startup disk.  (A message that just came across wais-talk tickled my
>>brain on this one.)
>
>Other users might want to watch out for this -- particularly since
>this is the first APP I've seen that imposes this limitation.  Can it
>be fixed in the next release?  In public organizations, this
>limitation can be problematic.
>

Actually, I've seen it in commercial software. The problem originates in a
MacTCP programming example from Apple which presumes the MacTCP DNR (Domain
Name Resolver) will be in a folder named "System Folder" on the current disk,
rather than getting file info on the System and extracting the folder name from
that.

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Running mac wais off a file server?
Date: 26 Jul 92 11:45:08 GMT
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

In article <1992Jul26.014844.10149@scott.skidmore.edu> ldg@scott.skidmore.edu (Leo D. Geoffrion) writes:
>In article <CKD.92Jul24210754@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>>Ah!  I think I know what the problem is.  0.6.2, at least, *must* be on
>>the startup disk.  (A message that just came across wais-talk tickled my
>>brain on this one.)
>>
>Copngratulations, Chris.  You found the cause for my problems.
>
>It turns out that I've partitioned my large disk at home into three
>volumes.  Moving WAISStation to the system partition cured the
>problem.
>
>Thanks for the suggestion.
>
>Other users might want to watch out for this -- particularly since
>this is the first APP I've seen that imposes this limitation.  Can it
>be fixed in the next release?  In public organizations, this
>limitation can be problematic.

I'm also concerned about other related issues.  We would like to run Mac 
WAIS in our labs multi-launch off of a read-only server folder.  It seems 
like the usual organization of source and document folders does not allow this.

In a lab in might be useful to have two folders for sources, one read-only,
the other not, combined into a single list.  State information should
optionally be stored on the same drive/folder as a preference file which
could be located anywhere (similar to the scheme used by Eudora.

-- 
    Albert Lunde                      Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu
                                      alunde@nuacvm.bitnet
From: marc@rddvax.decnet.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: wais and graphics files
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:09:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: rddvax.1992Jul26.110839.1
Organization: Software Technology Center

I've finally gotten around to attempting to use wais to handle some 
graphics files.  I ftp'd some gif file to our server, indexed them and 
used the b5 xwais client to look at them.  No problem at all.  On the
PC I use pcwais retrieve the files to the pc and then use vuimg to
lok at them.

On the Mac I have been having some problems.  I used Canvas to create
a simple image of a box and a circle and then saved it using the PICT
option.  I ftp'd the file up to the server in binary, macbinary and 
ascii mode. Indexed them and attempted to retrieve them with 
Waistaion.  Waistation appears to be attempting to retireve the
file and then display it but my Mac goes crazy.  The entire screen 
clears, with horizontal bars like a TV set with vertical control gone 
south and the only thing to do is to shut it off.  This happens when I 
try to retrieve any of the 3 documents.

Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

/marc

-- 
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Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc. Palo Alto CA 94304-1191
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: "Joanne Holiday" <p00012@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Any WAIS Users Tenetting with PSI Global Dialup Service?
Organization: IPG
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:17:31 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

I use Performance Systems International's (PSI) Global Dialup Service 
(PSI/GDS) for telnet access.

Does anyone else access WAIS using PSIGDS?  

I can't seem to make any use of WAIS with this kind of access.  I dial 
into PSI's local internet access site, and type "telnet <space>
quake.think.com".  I DO get to a simple WAIS interface , but all I get 
is the first screenfull of a list of 270-plus servers, and an option to 
do a keyword search, select a server, or get help. 
I can't get a simple keyword search to work.

Anyone out there with suggestions/advice/similar experience?

I'm not on a LAN, so loading another interface is not now  an option for me.

Thanks for any and all suggestions.

Best regards--Joanne Holiday


Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Are WaisStation and ARA compatible?
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<FAD.92Jul21105414@turing.think.com>
	<1992Jul22.121208.7266@scott.skidmore.edu>
	<FAD.92Jul24172419@turing.think.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:07:57 GMT

Ah!  I think I know what the problem is.  0.6.2, at least, *must* be on
the startup disk.  (A message that just came across wais-talk tickled my
brain on this one.)

I think it has problems finding the MacTCP drivers otherwise.

Yeah, I should have reported this when I first found it (many months
ago).  Mea culpa.

(Also, could someone fwd this to the person who asked on wais-talk?  I
don't have the message handy enough to do so :( )
--
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   ``The First Amendment is often inconvenient.  But that is besides the
  point.  Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
         to tolerate speech.'' --Justice Anthony Kennedy, in 91-155
From: mpitcher@fs1.ho.man.ac.uk (Malcolm Pitcher)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Newbie problem with pcwais
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:14:07 GMT
Organization: Clinical Research Network, Hope Hospital, Manchester
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

Hi *

I installed pcwais v1 yesterday and am suffering from have an annoying 
problem - when a search is run and nothing is found (I assume that's what's 
happening), pcwais throws open an error window saying:

Fatal error: out of memory!
exiting program

The indicator at the bottom right of the screen says there's 180624 left.

Have I made a cock up in the installation or is this a bug?

Any help much appreciated,

Malc

(mpitcher@fs1.ho.man.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: Micky Verma
Subject: Wais Security
Reply-To: riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:47:18 GMT

Hi, I have just set up the Wais server on an HP 700 series
using a Macintosh as a Front End.

I was wondering if there is any way to build in security at 
the server end.  I thought by putting the unix file permissions on the 
sources I could restrict access to certain groups.  However, this does not seem
to be the case, as it still allows anyone
to access the sources regardless of the fact that they dont have
any permission within that source directory or even the sources
themselves.

I read an article in this news group mentioning something
about a security switch in swais.  I am not too familiar with the swais and am
not too sure if this is the way to go.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You
Micky Verma

Please respond to riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca  
 
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: knoth@hermes.psych.indiana.edu ( nik )
Subject: Question on waisindex -register
Followup-To: poster
Summary: has anybody done this?
Keywords: local directory-of-servers
Organization: Cognitive Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:41:25 GMT


Hi All,

 When waisindex -register is  used, it registers a
database with THE directory-of-servers.  My employer
would like to set up a local version of this directory-
of-servers so that individuals at our university could
register databases of local interest without
registering them internationally.  And of course,
looking for sources could then be done on a local 
level rather than internationally as well...

1- I have not found any information to suggest that
WAIS is able to do this.  Has anyone tried to set up
such a local directory-of-servers?  Is there code out
there to do such a thing, or will i need to write it?

2- I know that WAIS wants all information to be
registered in one directory-of-servers so that it can
be easily located;  and i plan to leave this option
enabled in case someone wants to use it.  But,
is the localization of data discouraged or frowned
at???  (I wouldn't think so, but it seems best to
cover all bases.  ;)

3- If anyone has suggestions on a "better" way to
accomplish this localization of information, i would
be happy for the help.  Any ideas?

Please respond via email to me.  Thanx.
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: jjkim@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (Kim Jungju)
Subject: How many servers are there ?
Keywords: WAIS, GOPHER, WWW
Organization: KAIST
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 02:04:41 GMT

WAIS, GOPHER and WWW servers are increading. Does anyone out there
know how many servers of them are running now ?
And if possible could someone make a table like below ?

The number of information servers running on Internet.

         July 1990   Jan 1991    July 1991   Jan 1992    July 1992
WAIS
GOPHER
WWW

Thanks in advance.

Jungju
__
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| |  / / |_|             | Jungju Kim - jjkim@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr
| | / /   _   _________  |
| |/ /   | | |  _   _  | | Tel. : +82-2-962-8861
| |\ \   | | | | | | | | | Fax. : +82-2-969-0239
| | \ \  | | | | | | | | | GUI Consortium Project / System Architecture Lab.
|_|  \_\ |_| |_| |_| |_| | Computer Science Department, KAIST, KOREA
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| |/ /   | | |  _   _  | | Tel. : +82-2-962-8861
From: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu (Leo D. Geoffrion)
Subject: Re: Are WaisStation and ARA compatible: SOLUTION
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:48:44 GMT

In article <CKD.92Jul24210754@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>Ah!  I think I know what the problem is.  0.6.2, at least, *must* be on
>the startup disk.  (A message that just came across wais-talk tickled my
>brain on this one.)
>
Copngratulations, Chris.  You found the cause for my problems.

It turns out that I've partitioned my large disk at home into three
volumes.  Moving WAISStation to the system partition cured the
problem.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Other users might want to watch out for this -- particularly since
this is the first APP I've seen that imposes this limitation.  Can it
be fixed in the next release?  In public organizations, this
limitation can be problematic.



-- 
Leo Geoffrion, Skidmore College Computer Services, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
EMAIL: ldg@scott.skidmore.edu   VOICE: (518) 584-5000 Ext. 2919
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Compiling WAIS
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:09:03 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Jul30.185232.26265@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:

>Has anyone successfully compiled Release 8 b5 on DYNIX/ptx?

>I'm having some problems and would appreciate a hand.

Well, I've gotten a bit further but now I'm stuck.

Sequent PTX is similar to System V, but not enough that you can set
SYSV and get anything but garbage.  I've made various changes (i.e.
provided rindex, index, bcopy, etc.) but now I have T_Open, etc. as
undefined objects and I can't find any library files that define them.
Does anyone out there have any suggestions?

Thanks
Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: jayhawk@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (ryan.moats)
Subject: Re: Keyword options added to waisindex
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:32:16 GMT

From article <1992Jul29.204207.16547@tc.cornell.edu>, by post@cs.cornell.edu (David H. Post):
> We've added two options to waisindex for supplying keywords to be indexed
> from the command line or a file.  This is very useful for indexing files 
> that are not plain text.  From the new man page:...

[rest deleted in the interests of BW]

All of this is very nice, but it begs the issue of how to make text documents
easier to find.  Having keywords added to the dictionary doesn't help one of
the (IMHO) weakest points of WAIS:  That the source description doesn't
necessarily provide an adequate (or accurate) description of what it 
contains.

We here in Holmdel have been considering an approach that would pull the
most common words out of the dictionary, to a limit of n words or p% of the
total word occurances in the dictionary being covered.  This set could then
be included in the source description under the heading ":keywords" or
something similar.  The modified source file becomes much more descriptive
of the database.

We are still at the stage of determining n and p by using an external program
to take dictionaries "apart", so comments on this approach would be welcome.

Ryan Moats
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Holmdel, NJ
jayhawk@cygni.att.com
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: SOURCE: AAtDB now available via WAIS
Date: 31 Jul 1992 09:03:37 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: bionet
Reply-To: cherry@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

[ Article crossposted from bionet.general ]
[ Author was CHERRY@FRODO.MGH.HARVARD.EDU ]
[ Posted on 31 Jul 92 04:15:59 GMT ]

A WAIS version of the AAtDB Arabidopsis thaliana database is now
available. 
  
WAIS has been discussed alot in a number of bionet groups in the past so
I'll keep this message short and not go into the details of WAIS. Send me
a message if you need more information. 

I just registered this WAIS server with think.com so it should be listed
on the directory-of-servers soon. 

The source information for the AAtDB WAIS server follows: 

(:source 
   :version		 3 
   :ip-name              "weeds.mgh.harvard.edu"
   :ip-address           "132.183.190.21"
   :tcp-port             210
   :database-name	 "AAtDB"
   :cost		 0.00 
   :cost-unit		 :free 
   :maintainer		 "curator@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu"
   :description
"WAIS version of the AAtDB database, An Arabidopsis thaliana Database:
	Arabidopsis Green Book by Meyerowitz and Pruitt
	ABRC Ohio State Strains and Clones
	Nottingham Seed Centre Strains
	Primary data for Goodman and Meyerowitz F2 RFLP markers
	Classical genetic marker data from M. Koornneef
	Arabidopsis Colleagues including telephone numbers, postal addresses
	 and email addresses
	Over 2600 bibliographic citations with abstracts, if available
	Genes, Alleles and RFLP loci of Arabidopsis
	REBASE Type II Restriction enzyme database by Richard Roberts
	All GenBank sequences for Arabidopsis, reference text only
	and more
"
)

Macintosh, Unix and NeXT WAIS clients are available via Anonymous FTP from
think.com. DOS, SunView and VMS clients are available from samba.oit.unc.edu.
A IBM RS6000 client are available from ans.net.

Mike Cherry
cherry@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: lepore@insane.sanders.lockheed.com (Lee Lepore)
Subject: Re: Newbie problem with pcwais
Organization: Information Systems Division, Lockheed Sanders
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:56:04 GMT

In article <mpitcher.13@fs1.ho.man.ac.uk> mpitcher@fs1.ho.man.ac.uk (Malcolm Pitcher) writes:

>Fatal error: out of memory!
>exiting program

>The indicator at the bottom right of the screen says there's 180624 left.

>Have I made a cock up in the installation or is this a bug?

>Malc

  No Malc, You are not alone in this problem, I am also experiencing it.  I 
have been told that if you run PCWAIS under MS Windows most of the problems 
disappear.  As of yet I am unable to get the memory problem completely 
cleared up, but it does help.  If you have Windows you may want to give that 
a try.

Any other solutions out there?  Lee
	

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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: FTP QUAKE.THINK.COM
Date: 23 Jul 1992 04:18:03 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com

In article <1992Jul21.221942.357@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:
>can I get he same info from think.com by FTPing as I could
>by telneting to quake.think.com?

When you telnet to quake.think.com, you run the WAIS client there.  By
FTPing from think.com you can get your own copy of the WAIS client
(actually, you get several different clients -- there's one that runs
inside GNU Emacs, and another that uses an X GUI).  All of them can access
the same WAIS servers that the one on quake does.

-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: datkins@carina.unm.edu (Drexel Atkinson CIRT)
Subject: what is wais?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:26:24 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


Where can I get a description(SPD) on wais.  What it is, how it works,
what its capabilities are, etc....  I am installing and testing it
in conjunction with gopher, but havent really figured it all out.
thanks,
	_drex 
    
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