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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jones....Touchdown 49'errrrrrs!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:41:47 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <Bxy36F.Ku2@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...) writes:
>In article <4835@equinox.unr.edu>, harrisl@unssun.nevada.edu (Larry Harris)
>        writes...
>
>>BTW, the 9'ers two minute offense was a work of art. Absolutely perfect.
>
>No.  The Bills running the no-huddle makes every other team's two-minute offense
>look befuddled and disarrayed by comparison.  Just how fast and how efficiently
>they run it amazes me every time I see it.
>
>BILLS 26, 'FINS 20
>
>                                        ---Chet Zeshonski

Oh come on Chet!  Very few people who have professional opinions
regarding the NFL will rarely dispute the fact that the 49ers run
the best 2 minute offense in the NFL.  The only other team that I
can think of who comes close to the Niners is Denver.
The Bills may run the no-huddle great, but I have yet to see them
win a Super Bowl with it.  Have you ever wondered why they run
the no-huddle Chet?  Have you ever wondered what they may be like
if they didn't run it?

                                                   Tony
                                                GO 49ERS!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Meskes)
Subject: Current standings, week #11
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:32:15 GMT

AFC_EAST:
Name                  W  L  T   Pct  Pf  Pa Home   Away   AFC    NFC    Div
Buffalo Bills         8  2  0  .800 260 169 4-1    4-1    6-2    2-0    5-1    
Miami Dolphins        7  3  0  .700 250 177 3-2    4-1    5-3    2-0    3-3    
Indianapolis Colts    4  6  0  .400 133 223 2-4    2-2    3-6    1-0    2-3    
New York Jets         3  7  0  .300 163 202 3-2    0-5    3-4    0-3    2-2    
New England Patriots  1  9  0  .100 138 257 0-5    1-4    1-6    0-3    1-4    

AFC_CENTRAL:
Name                  W  L  T   Pct  Pf  Pa Home   Away   AFC    NFC    Div
Pittsburgh Steelers   7  3  0  .700 196 139 4-0    3-3    6-2    1-1    3-1    
Houston Oilers        6  4  0  .600 230 178 3-2    3-2    5-4    1-0    2-3    
Cleveland Browns      5  5  0  .500 154 159 2-3    3-2    4-5    1-0    2-1    
Cincinnati Bengals    4  6  0  .400 184 229 2-2    2-4    3-4    1-2    1-3    

AFC_WEST:
Name                  W  L  T   Pct  Pf  Pa Home   Away   AFC    NFC    Div
Denver Broncos        7  3  0  .700 175 183 6-0    1-3    6-1    1-2    3-1    
Kansas City Chiefs    6  4  0  .600 204 158 5-1    1-3    4-3    2-1    4-1    
San Diego Chargers    5  5  0  .500 158 165 3-2    2-3    5-5    0-0    2-3    
Los Angeles Raiders   4  6  0  .400 152 171 3-2    1-4    3-4    1-2    2-2    
Seattle Seahawks      1  9  0  .100  59 194 0-4    1-5    1-6    0-3    0-4    

NFC_EAST:
Name                  W  L  T   Pct  Pf  Pa Home   Away   AFC    NFC    Div
Dallas Cowboys        8  2  0  .800 247 152 5-1    3-1    3-0    5-2    4-1    
Washington Redskins   6  4  0  .600 171 161 4-1    2-3    2-1    4-3    1-3    
Philadelphia Eagles   6  4  0  .600 208 134 5-0    1-4    2-1    4-3    3-2    
New York Giants       5  5  0  .500 214 202 3-2    2-3    1-2    4-3    2-1    
Phoenix Cardinals     3  7  0  .300 168 221 2-2    1-5    0-0    3-7    1-4    

NFC_CENTRAL:
Name                  W  L  T   Pct  Pf  Pa Home   Away   AFC    NFC    Div
Minnesota Vikings     7  3  0  .700 259 161 3-2    4-1    1-1    6-2    6-1    
Chicago Bears         4  6  0  .400 224 244 3-3    1-3    0-1    4-5    3-3    
Tampa Bay Buccaneers  4  6  0  .400 184 227 3-3    1-3    0-1    4-5    3-4    
Green Bay Packers     4  6  0  .400 151 215 3-2    1-4    2-1    2-5    1-3    
Detroit Lions         2  8  0  .200 177 216 1-4    1-4    0-1    2-7    2-4    

NFC_WEST:
Name                  W  L  T   Pct  Pf  Pa Home   Away   AFC    NFC    Div
San Francisco 49ers   8  2  0  .800 292 172 3-1    5-1    2-1    6-1    5-0    
New Orleans Saints    7  3  0  .700 191 138 3-1    4-2    1-0    6-3    2-2    
Atlanta Falcons       4  6  0  .400 186 265 4-2    0-4    1-1    3-5    1-3    
Los Angeles Rams      4  6  0  .400 190 206 3-1    1-5    2-2    2-4    0-3    

Michael
-- 
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RWTH-Aachen, Ahornstr. 55, D-W-5100 Aachen
Email: meskes@ulysses.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: THE BET II
Originator: delarocq@c00505-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:10:07 GMT




  Ok, to show that Bills fans do have some sympathy, I will offer a vote to
 all Bills fans participants of the BET II. email your vote.

 VOTE YES:  The four Dolphin fans that were involved in the bet should
            be allowed to post again until SB 27.

 VOTE NO:   The four Dolphin fans that were involved in THE BET II should not
            be allowed to post again until SB 27.


 I am openly voting YES. I know it seems stupid, but I think they deserve to
 post on here. It's not like they act like Giants fans, anyway.. sheesh.....
 


   
-- 
delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


      
---------------------------------------------------------------------------   
1988,1989,1990,1991 AFC East Division Champions
1991,1992 AFC Conference Champions

Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

If you are a Buffalo Bills fan, email me at delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
so we can talk all about the games, insight, etc.
If you are a Packers fan, let me know. I am interested in any news
out of Green Bay...
A PROUD MEMBER OF THE BILLS COALITION TAKING THE BET II.
From: vollmer@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bruce Vollmer)
Subject: Re: What the Bears need.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:15:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.182329.1850@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes...
>v066pwk9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (BRUCE YAEGER) writes:
>>They need a coach who can get the players motivated.
>>They don't need a coach who yells at his players [...]
> 
>My wild prediction for 1992/93:
> 
>	Bo Schembechler, the next head coach of the Chicago Bears.
> 
>You heard it here first.
> 
> 

Pretty wild ..... just what the Bears need, another run-happy coach.
Yeah, that's the ticket, they'll run the Wing-T   :-)
And wear leather helmets   :-)
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: GIANTS blow another one.
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:55:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

satish nair writes: go giants

to which joe dakes replies: and take the Jets with you.


Kinda ironic coming from someone whose team is made up of ex-Jets.  So
whaddya think, Ken O'Brien as the Iggles starter in 1993??

satish nair
From: rorry@cs.umd.edu (Ningda Rorry Li)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Houston Oiler Wk12
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:14:36 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

------------------------------------------------------------------

TEAM
Houston Oilers (6-5)

NEXT OPPONENT
Detroit

GAME SUMMARY

           Houston    Miami*
Pts        16         19
Rushing    24-96      17-72
Pass Att   22-35-2    19-40-1
Pass Yds   201        221
Fum Lost   1          1
Poss       34:26      25:34

PASSING
Carlson    22-35-2-228, 1P

RUSHING
White      18-69
Carlson    3-18
Harris     1-8
Givins     1-1
Montgomery 1-0

RECEIVING
White      5-64
Jeffires   5-42
Duncan     5-39
Harris     4-59
Givins     2-16
Slaughter  1-8

KICKING
Del Greco  1X 3F(24, 41, 22)
           (missed a tie-breaking 41-yard field goal with 1:49 left in the
            game.)

SACKS
Jones      2
Childress  1
Fuller     1

INTERCEPTIONS
Dishman

INJURIES
Givins
Lathon
Maggs

GAME SUMMARY
Came out strong in the first half, but offense was shut down in the second
half (3 points). The defense did a good job on Miami's passing game.

NEWS ITEMS
-- Three NFC Central opponets (with a combined record of 12-21) next.

OTHER NOTES 
*= Home Team
P= Touchdown Pass Thrown
T= Touchdowns Scored
F= Field Goal Scored (number in parens is distance)
X= Extra Point Scored
PASSING: completions,attempts,interceptions, TD passes

This posting follows the proposed format of the NFL TEAM STAT PROJECT.
Contact Jason Parker - jason@cray.com to sign-up and enter your
favorite team.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Ningda Rorry Li				Dept. of Computer Science
rorry@cs.umd.edu			The University of Maryland 
(O)301-405-2722   (H)301-345-2520	College Park, MD 20742
From: bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills resurgence
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:55:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <98194@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
> night game.  Was there a reason for their resurgance??  Did the offense change
> any schemes?  Or was it all just a slump?


Well, a: they re-established their running game in the last three games.
(Albeit in the Miami game, they didn't do as well.)

      b: the bye week helped them get key players healthly (Hull) which helped
         establish a.
    
      c: They just realized they had to win! :)


-- 
ciao,                             
Jason Bittle (bittle@canisius.edu) 
(a.k.a. Pillsbury Dough Boy )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bud@sequent.com (Pat Hauke)
Subject: Re: PRIME TIME'S PREDICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:53:20 GMT

In article <bgk2001-191192150221@m248-101.bgsu.edu> bgk2001@andy.bgsu.edu (BRIAN G. KENDRICK) writes:
>
>
>Hello fellow NFL fans, once again it's time for me to make weekly
>predictions.  Last week I managed to go 2-1 with a devastating upset to my
>Philadelphia faithfuls.  But I did pull through with my upset special as
>NEW ENGLAND (yes, New England) pulled off a miraculous win in the Hoosier
>Dome.  Maybe I will make my predictions a little more contraversial this
>week, I need more responses from YOU!!!!!
>
>
>Pick of the week-      Washington at NEW ORLEANS
>
>-In my opinion, New Orleans got robbed last week in Candlestick!  They
>played much better than the "whiners" and should of walked away in first
>place.  They need this if they want to remain in the hunt for the West. 
>This is a team that I feel can make it to the show.  Their DEFENSE is much
>too strong for the Woeful Redskin O and the slumping Mark Rypien.  SAINTS
>HEAVY!!
>                       NEW ORLEANS 27  WASHINGTON 6

I think you are right about NO's strength, but I am betting they'll let it
slip away.....
    	 	        NEW ORLEANS 10  WASHINGTON 13


What is your call on Dallas at PHOENIX?

     I think Dallas will slip to 8-3. Being embarrassed by LA last week,
     they'll try too hard this week and blow it on the natural turf. E. Smith
     will have his usual great game w/ 2 TDs, but it will not be enough...

    	    	    	PHOENIX 27  DALLAS  21

>
>WRITE ME BACK PLEASE,
>TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.
>
>Brian-          bgk2001@andy.bgsu.edu


bud                         !
Pat Hauke		    !
Sequent Computer Systems    !
From: wjtomer@cs.pitt.edu (Bill Tomer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: AFC vs. NFC debate
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:20:14 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

It seems to me that to have any real statistical basis one must take all
the games played between the conferences.  Not just the >Super Bowl.
All the current argument is proving is that the best NFC team is beating
the beset AFC team when it counts.  This does not hold much water when
talking about conferences as a whole.  Let see some stats on the AFC
vas.
the NFC so far this season.  Ibelieve that last week the AFC was
undefeated.  

I would do the investigation, but being here in Israel I have difficulty
getting to  relevant sporting information.

BilL
-- 
William Tomer       :			  
224 Alumni Hall     :	 I want to be just like you when I grow up!  
U. of Pittsburgh    :          Maybe a little taller though.
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From: keithg@boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson)
Subject: Re: L.A. Raiders!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:23:13 GMT
Organization: work
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Sam Lubchansky (spl2@po.cwru.edu) wrote:
: Here, I'll post something about the Raiders.
: 
: This Sunday, the GLORIOUS RAIDERS will get clobbered by the Broncos - 
: something along the lines of 33-10.
: 
: I hope you're happy now.
: 
: 

	Well, that could happen, but if you look at the history, those
	games are almost always close. It's a good rivalry, and both teams
	will be up for it. And even if the Raiders aren't, it's hard
	to imagine Denver scoring 33 points on the road, even against L.A.

	-keith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Subject: Re: Cowboy Meal Menu
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:50:57 GMT

In article <Bxu6vI.273@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
>Okay, I had it coming. Though I knew I would get a couple laugh in my face
>letters about what I had posted the week before, I didn't think it would fill
>my mailbox. Summaries follow:
(lots of stuff deleted)
>Eric
>
>P.S. Gee, it sure sucks to be the only person on the net who has ever 'woofed'
>and was wrong. 
>

Gee Eric, don't take it so hard! We're just giving you a good, friendly
thrashing. I'd expect no less from you!

GO RAMS!

Eric Boltz

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: NFC dominance?
Reply-To: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI 48202
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:53:38 GMT


DV>Wow.  The NFC _really_ dominated today.  Whew.
DV>
DV>Jon




Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey)
Subject: Re: WIZARD PREDICTIONS !!!!!!!!!
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:53:11 CST

Disgusting, Pittsburgh 24 Indianapolis 7. .



PS any big steeler fans out there, I would appreciate any updates, not getting
any real Steeler news in this frozen wasteland.

GO PACK!

chrisc@cae.wisc.edu


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Re: Bills vs. Dolphins
Summary: Marco Coleman
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:10:02 GMT

> Okay, I don't care about either of these teams, so I am just asking a simple
> question about Marco Coleman (for obvious reasons - I am a Georgia Tech fan).
> I saw only the first half last night and from some of the comments on the net
> today, I can see that Marco was ALSO extremely involved in the second half's
> events (including a fight, some penalty for messing up the QB's face, and
> apparently a crucial dead-ball foul).

He was heavily involved in the game as has been the case all season.  It was
no accident that he was involved in so many plays because he was around the 
ball all evening and was playing with a lot of emotion.

> My question is:  what is the general consensus of Coleman's development in
> the pros?

His development has exceeded the expectations of the Dolphins coaching staff
by his becoming an impact player almost immediately.  He and Cox seem to
be the keys to the Dolphin's improved pass rush.  Shula has been very
complementary of his work ethic, his emotion, and his ability to learn the
system.  Although Coleman made a couple of mistakes last night he has still
been one of the most auspicious rookies in the league, and I look forward to
seeing him on the Dolphin defense for many years to come.

David, Dolphin fan
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:38:36 EST
From: <JMC162@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SUPER BOWL TALK: BILLS AND 49ERS
Distribution: world,local
 <1992Nov18.211908.4642@PacBell.COM> <1992Nov19.171551.20959@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>

Let's assume for the moment that the Niner's don't make the Superbowl.  I
think that Sallas is a much better team and when Philly is playing well,
they are too.  Let's stop assuming that the S.F.  is unstopable, afterall
they were beaten by the Cards.  All this hype is rediculous until we know
the playoff rankings.  What is important are matchups.  Maybe both Buffalo
and S.F.  will make it and maybe they won't.  As a Bills fan, I'd love to
see the Bills try one more time.  I don't care who they face.

Joe C. - A Frank Reich Wanna Be
From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Whiners 21, Saints 20
Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:50:49 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov16.155018.10228@nntpserver.chevron.com>,
hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>
>
>I think Charlie Brown put it best when he said:
>
>AAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUURURRRRRRUUUAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
>
>
>I don't kneaux what I HATE WORSE!!!   The entire Niners organization or the
>Saints PREVENT DEFENSE!!!

How about the fact that you are a fan of a team who has perfected
the art of CHOKING!!!!!!!!!!

>And anutta thing:
>No more of this "THE BUCS SUCK SO RUN OVER ME"  "HANDLEY FOR PREZ"  "WHO
>CAN I ROOTT FER BESIDES THE PACK"  ALL-CAPS schmutt!  If you're not a
>LIFELONG SUFFERIN' SAINTS FAN, YOU AIN'T DIDLEY!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>J.J.(GOD give us another trip to Candlestick this year!!) Clyde

Better watch what you wish for. You just might get it!  Three times
a charm!

                                                      Tony
                                                   GO 49ERS!!!
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles vs. 49ers:  what'll happen
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:30:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1ejm5iINNijo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright) writes:
>
> 
>The 49ers are number 1 in Rushing offense for the past 3 weeks. 

Actually, the GIANTS were #1 two weeks ago.

>They have
>fallen from the number 1 passing team to the fourth rated passing
>team. 

Actually, they are the second rated passing team.

>Rickey Waters is now, I think, the fourth rated rusher in the
>NFC, and something similiar for the NFL. 

This is correct (Smith, Hampton and Cleveland Gary are the first 3).

>Steve Young is not only the
>leagues highest rated passer, but in the top ten rushers of the NFC.
>

Actually, nope.  He's only got 400+ rushing yards which is great by
any standards but the NFC backs have been superlative this year.

Not meant as a flame of any sort.  Just wanted the records to be clear.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

satish nair
go giants
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Seahawks score... a touchdown!!!
Originator: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 01:46:47 GMT

This is not a misprint.  I just saw it on ESPN.  Really.
This is certainly worth a post.  I believe it's their
sixth of the year, right?

Jim
-- 
Jim Jungbauer                 |  Go Vikings, Northstars, Cougars!
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EECS Department               |  "Nice move by Bellows... big drive... SCORES!"
Washington State University   |     -- Mike Emrick, 1991 Norris Division Finals
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:12:14 EST
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills No. 1 in AFC
 <1992Nov18.204717.2383@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
 <92323.205743RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Nov19.173021.27303@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>


In article <1992Nov19.173021.27303@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh) says:
>excuse me?  i believe you are either seriously deranged or did not
>actually read what i posted... never did i mention that the bills were
>the best in the league, they (obviously are not)... i was also off by
>one game in my 'education' of the steelers record... gee, how
>unprofound of me... excuse me for making a trivial error...
>
>the m,ain thrust of my argument still remains that it was
>inappropriate to give playoff spots when 2 of the teams involved in
>those spots had not played their game yet... because, whoever won the
>miami-buffalo game would have been the conference leader... not
>pittsburgh...
>
          Obviously, you had no idea what I was saying, which means you
shouldn't flame someone if you don't get the point of the article.  Everyone
else understood except for you, I suppose.  One, I never said Pittsburgh was
the conference leader, because they weren't.  They're still behind Denver,
geez, if they're behind Denver, how could they have possibly been ahead of
Miami?
   Secondly, the POINT of my article was to give CURRENT playoff rank.  No
kidding, the full tiebreaker wasn't determined at the time, but at the CURRENT
time, Miami led the series 1-0, and was therefore ranked No. 1. Buffalo was
No. 4 because they were in a wildcard spot.  Therefore, at the CURRENT time,
Pittsburgh was ahead of Buffalo for playoff rank.
   And, right now as we speak, Buffalo is now No. 1 and Miami is now No. 4 in
the CURRENT AFC rank.  My post was to people who were bragging that Buffalo was
No. 1 in the AFC BEFORE the game Monday night.  They weren't - they were
not even in the top 3 in the AFC, but now they are No. 1.
   You have a misunderstanding.  You're arguing FINAL playoff rank, which you
can't because the season is nowhere near over.  That's why I am arguing CURRENT
RANK.  The past is what you base current rank on, you can't base a final
playoff rank until the future is already determined.
>as far as me getting educated, i am in a PhD program continuing my
    -Correct me if I'm wrong, but with a PhD, one should be able to interpret
what they are reading.  I suggest you try to interpret what the heck you're
reading on this net before flaming.
** Rob **
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: WeeKenD WacK
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:30:24 GMT

(in approx. order)
		conf    o all
		W L	W L T
Hawaii          5 2     7 2      
S.D. St.	5 2     5 3 1
bwhyu		5 2     7 4
FresnoSt	4 2	6 4
Utah		4 3 	6 4
Air F.		4 4	7 4
Wyo		3 4 	5 6
ColoSt		2 5 	4 7 
N.Mex.		2 5 	3 7
TeX ElP		1 6	1 9

recent results

SD St 52, Hawaii 28 (was a good first half)
BwhyU 28 AF 7
ColoSt 35 Ohio u 24
NmeX 35 UTEP 14  
UTAH 38 WYO 7











(bwhyu 35 Nmex 0)


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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Whiners 21, Saints 20
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:00:50 GMT
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Tony Bechtold replies:
>>
>>I think Charlie Brown put it best when he said:
>>
>>AAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUURURRRRRRUUUAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
>>
>>J.J.(GOD give us another trip to Candlestick this year!!) Clyde
>
>Better watch what you wish for. You just might get it!  

You're right, Tony.  I better start praying for a first-round Saints loss 
again -- to spare us any more agony.  Thanks for the tip.  BTW, I've got
a tip for you that involves my shoe.

>Three times a charm!
>                                                      Tony
>                                                   GO 49ERS!!!

More like "Third time's the charm!"  And that's what we want.  And if
the Niners are playing the best ball right now (very possible), then the
Saints are definitely a close second.

--J.J.
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