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From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
Subject: Re: train song tape finished
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:15:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.024840.3571@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>In article <CB.92Sep8165739@tamarack13.timbuk> cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
>>Deryk Barker writes:
>
>>   Did nobody mention "Last train to Clarksville" by the Monkees? (A
>>   place, apaarently, where there never *was* a railway station)
>
>>There are several Clarksvilles: Iowa, Missouri, Texas, Virginia and
>>Tennessee.  Surely some of them had stations in the heyday of trains?
>
>There's one right here in New Jersey.  Or, at least, there was until
>they built Quaker Bridge Mall on top of it.  The rail goes by, but 
>doesn't stop.

I don't know which one, but I was recalling a radio piece from about
10 years ago, on a book about places in pop songs. According to the
book. Clarksville never had a railway.

So sue me.... :-)

Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.

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From: briley@cbnewse.cb.att.com (bruce.m.riley)
Subject: Clapton in London?
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL 60563
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:26:53 GMT
Keywords: Eric Clapton, London

Hi,

I remember hearing somewhere that each year Eric Clapton
puts on a week of concerts in London (I think at Albert Hall).

Well, a friend and I are planning a trip to Britain for sometime
next year, and we thought it would be kind of cool to check out
EC on his home turf.  Can anyone provide any details about this?

Is this a yearly event?  If so, does anyone know when (and where)
it is?  Is it hard to get tickets?  I'd appreciate any info that
anyone can provide?

Thanks
Bruce Riley
briley@ihlpy.att.com
Xref: sparky rec.music.bluenote:6883 rec.music.folk:6135
From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.folk
Subject: Last Train to Clarksville (was Re: train song tape finished)
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:20:10 GMT
 <1992Sep8.200040.736@spang.Camosun.BC.CA> <CB.92Sep8165739@tamarack13.timbuk>
 <1992Sep9.024840.3571@Princeton.EDU>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I was under the impression that the Clarksville referred to in the Monkees
first single was an induction center (all you old guys out there, remember the
draft?) with the singer on his way to military service and perhaps a war zone.
The tune was released during the Viet Nam era and many of the lyrics seem to
indicate imminent induction, eg. the last line of the refrain "And I don't know
if I'm ever coming home."

Hey maybe I'm all wet but that's the way I remember it.  Now get outta here...

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        Mickey Dolentz
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From: c1@english.as.ua.edu
Subject: mose allison
Organization: Department of English, The University of Alabama
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:48:28 GMT

Does anyone know if Mose recorded anything besides BACK COUNTRY SUITE, 
LOCAL COLOR, and CREEK BANK before moving to Columbia Records to do THE 
TRANSFIGURATION OF HIRAM BROWN?

Plus, I know that Fantasy has released the first two on cd, but CREEK BANK--
as far as I know--has not been released.  Correct?

I found TRANSFIGURATION on lp in New Orleans; horrible condition with a $50 
price tag.  Any suggestions on where to look?

scook@english.as.ua.edu
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From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
Subject: Current Contents: CODA Magazine
Organization: Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, U of Manitoba
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:57:49 GMT

Well, since no one seems to want to talk about why jazz musicians
don't have any friends, I offer the contents of the current CODA 
magazine instead.

* Sun Ra - Mr. Mystery, by Michael F. Hopkins
  A review of the recent Saturn reissues on Evidence.

* Dave McMurdo Big Band in Russia, by John Norris

* Bob Thiele: Once again Flying Dutch, by James Rozzi

* Tim Berne, by Gary Parker Chapin
  Much discussion about how he puts together his music.

* The Man Who Walked in Balance, by Kalamu ya Salaam
  7 page article focussing on Trane's later works.

Plus, reviews of the Bern, Toronto, and Elkhart fests by John Norris, notes
on the NY scene by Kevin Whitehead, and the Chicago scene by John Corbett.
  
  CODA PUBLICATIONS
  BOX 87
  STATION 'J'
  TORONTO, ONT.
  CANADA M4J 4X8

24-hour phone/fax line for charge card orders: (416) 593-7230

U.S. rates in U.S. funds (6 issues = one year):
  regular mail: $24 
  1st class mail: $27

In Canada:
  reg. mail: $25.68 (includes GST)
  1st class: $29.96

Elsewhere (except U.K. [email me for U.K. info]):
  reg. mail: $27 Cdn.
  air mail:  $36

Payment: M/C, Visa, Int'l money order, or U.S. cheques (for cheques add $0.50
                                                        to cover bank charges)

Some comments for those that have not seen a CODA before:  do not expect a
glossy production (they have about one or two B/W photos per article).
However, do expect quality writing, often on themes not easily found elsewhere.
--
                                   * * *
Gord McGonigal                                  mcgonig@eeserv.ee.UManitoba.ca
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, CANADA (R3T 2N2)       phone: (204) 474-6295
From: eb30413@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com (Bill Taber TL26 TL195)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Chicago Blues gig Reference?
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Lilly Research Laboratories

Anybody know of a periodical or telephone hotline to give the latest
on what Blues artists are playing where in Chicago?

I'm interested in a local (Chicago) orientation.

        Email:  w.t@lilly.com
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From: glazer@spot.Colorado.EDU (GLAZER STACEY ANN)
Subject: Re: Cherry/Blackwell (for James Barnett)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.222757.12518@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>smehta@nynexst.com writes:
>
>>I can, however, recommend the Blackwell/Redman duet recorded Live At
>>Willisau released on Black Saint. There is also the Cherry/Blackwell
>>duet EL CORAZON (ECM) which is very nice.
>
>An even better duet by these two masters (Cherry and Blackwell) is MU,
>recorded a few years earlier htan El Corazon. Originally a set of two
>albums, it has since been released on a single CD by Afffinity. A gem.
>
>Bill Hery
>AT&T Bell Labs
>201-386-2362
>hery@att.COM

For more Blackwell duets check out his album: Live at Willisau on Black Saint
with Dewey Redman.  Mr. Redman soars as does Blackwell.

James Barnett.
From: sue@snafu.seada.com (Sue Raul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Where is Jazz?
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:24:35 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering and Design Associates

What's happening with jazz in the world?

*Where* is there jazz? Which cities? Which parts of those cities?

I want to hear live music from people like Geri Allen, David Murray, 
Steve Coleman, Don Pullen, Abdullah Ibrahim, Evan Parker, Chico Freeman,
Cedar Walton, Anthony Braxton. . . . 

Where should I be living? [Sandeep, I know what you're going to say!] ;-)

Sue
From: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu (ken ficara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: BLUES HARMONICA
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:48:32 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I still think the Marine Band is the best of the lot, and I would
avoid Hohner's Blues Harp, because it doesn't last as long as the
MB's. It's easier to bend, though, if you're still having trouble
there.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken Ficara                     "Use your brain or someone will use it for you."
ficara@remus.rutgers.edu                                              ,
                                                                 --Ruben Blades
From: Chris Deibel
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Erroll Garner 2 vol CD.
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:57:19 GMT
Organization: Therapeutic Radiology U of Mn Hosp.

I enjoy the Errol Garner collection vols 4 and 5, recently available
as a 2 CD set.  When I asked the local CD shop for Vols 1, 2, and 3;
they said they were unavailable.  Anyone have any ideas why? 
Did they ever exist? ( vols 4 and 5 are piano-only recordings made
in 1954(?) but never before released). 
 
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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Comments on Pat Metheny
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:12:47 GMT

pvallado@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid ) writes:

>Whoever said that Metheny was a bore, I'm sorry you feel that way.
>While he has put out his share of bad material along with the good,
>his mastery of phrasing and use of space makes him one of the
>greatest improvisers on the planet; far more interesting than lesser
>players who try to make up for their faults with excessively fast
>playing and other noise.  Those of you who have not heard Metheny's
>playing, try him and decide for yourself

Interesting comments - I taped the Letterman show so I could sleep, 
]and I haven't seen it yet. But I listened to a live tape of Metheny
this week and found it covered a diverse spectrum of styles - from 
some stuff that I found to be too nice, sweet fusion (but I tend to
really like dissonant music), and other parts were strange - some 
sounded like improvised violin or guitar, whoch I assume was guitar, 
and it did get grungy and dissonant and odd, but in a way I couldn't
relate to anything else. Then some other parts started reminding me 
of McLaughlin or Mahavishnu. Overall I got the impression I should 
listen to some more. I think the only work that stands out in memory
as something I've heard before is the Lyle Mays/Metheny "As Falls 
Wichita) (sp?) release. I'd appreciate some pointers to other Metheny
that I might enjoy, especially dirty noisy dissonant stuff or things 
leaning to McLaughlin's neighborhood. My impression is he doesn't
do a lot of music like that on his recorded works. 

BTW, a friend with me at a McLaughlin Trio show in Oakland, CA in 
1991 was freaking out over seeing someone he swore was Metheny in 
the audience that night.
 
 - malcolm@wrs.com   
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From: hsu@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: A few new cds (for James Barnett)
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:48:30 GMT

smehta@kwela.nynexst.Com (Sandeep Mehta) writes:

>Shipp, Matthew - Sonic Explorations                   (CadenceJazz 1988, LP)

There's another recent Shipp CD on a small east coast label (Riti? or is
that Joe Morris' label?) It's a trio date with William Parker and a drummer
(Walt Dickey?) I think the title has "temple" in it somewhere. There's
a lot of confident, energetic and interesting playing on this, and a few
less successful spots (like the last piece which drones on for too long).
Maybe not essential, but worth hearing. Radio people should contact
Larkin Talent Assoc. to get a copy of this.

Bill
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Evan Parker (was: Cecil on FMP)
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:21:55
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain's message of 10 Sep 92 14:11:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.141102.15329@bnr.ca> jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas) writes:

   Speaking of Evan Parker, how is PROCESS AND REALITY? I probably missed
   any reviews people may have posted.


I found this a little tedious - I don't think Parker does his best
work in a solo setting (with or without multi-tracking). He seems to
need another player to work with, or against.

Having now given thumbs down to two Parker discs, perhaps I should
recommend a few -- he is, after all, my favorite post-Ayler sax player
:) 

THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LUNGS: a great, early trio date with Derek
Bailey and Han Bennink. Parker sizzles on this one.

MUSIC IMPROVISATION COMPANY: even earlier, perhaps slightly less
together and vital than TOPOGRAPHY, but still great. The other
musicians are Derek Bailey, Jamie Muir, and Hugh Davies.

COMPATIBLES: duets w/Bailey. These two always make beautiful music
together (so to speak).

Any of the series of records made with Barry Guy and/or Paul Lytton --
later recordings that show off a more mature Parker: INCISION; TRACKS;
HOOK, DRIFT AND SHUFFLE; T'AI KYOKU; and ATLANTA, among others.

ELF BAGATELLEN: Alex von Schlippenbach's trio, with Parker and Paul
Lovens. A great one.

CHIRPS: soprano sax duets, with Steve Lacy. 


As far as solo and/or multi-tracked sax goes, I think I'd recommend
the new release on Acta by John Butcher, THIRTEEN FRIENDLY NUMBERS,
over any of Evan Parker's solo records. 


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From: rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
Subject: Re: M. Shipp, or how rumors start
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:06:57 GMT
Organization: Doc Porter's Thrills Show

In <9209091554.AA08722@wavetracer.com> gwl%wave3_1@CONCERT.NET (Glenn Lea) writes:

>> glazer@spot.Colorado.EDU (James Barnett) writes:
>couple of months.  I have no idea when I wrote it down or on what
>recommendation (though it was most likely a review).  I hate it when I
>do that.  Obviously, I was happy to see him on the Ware CD, but I have
>a feeling something must be due or I wouldn't have jotted down his
>name.  


He has a release out under his own name. The title escapes me at this moment,
but I see it at Tower frequently. He's amazing. 

 
-- 
================================================================
|  Reuben Radding         rdr@panix.com       cmcl2!panix!rdr  |
|==============================================================|
| ******************* Marrou / Lord in 1992 ****************** | 
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From: glazer@spot.Colorado.EDU (GLAZER STACEY ANN)
Subject: Re: Sunny Murray's first album (Was Re: ZYX/ESP) (for James Barnett)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:54:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.025130.23590@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo) writes:
>> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro):
>> According to the liner notes, Murray's first record under his own name
>> features Albert Ayler and Don Cherry! Now there's a record I'd like to
>> find some day...
>
>While we're talking about Baraka, does anyone else believe like
>me that the man has nothing to say, has had nothing to say for some
>20 years, and says that nothing badly. 

I'll have to disagree with you about Baraka.  His poetry is very powerful - I've
seen him live and was very impressed.  I have read many of his essays and also
a couple of his plays.  "The Music" is a compilation of some poetry, essays,
reviews, and a play.  From a political standpoint, I'm not so impressed -
after his reading he fielded questions from the audience (this was right before
the Iraq war) and his responses were very dogamtic.  So I felt there was less 
room for change.  But I really enjoy his poetry (much more so than his essays.)

James Barnett
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From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: I am curious about Grant Geissman
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 12:41:15 GMT

In article <j+wnxh_.carhart@netcom.com> carhart@netcom.com (Raymond E. Carhart) writes:
>
>Hi
>I recently saw an ad in Tower Records' PULSE magazine for an album by
>guitarist Grant Geissman on  enja/bluemoon  records.  This is interesting

Is this the same Grant G. that played w/Chuck "Feels So Good" Mangione(sp?)?

Elliott New
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Cecil on FMP (for James Barnett)
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:11:31
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM's message of 12 Sep 92 01:24:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.012445.21912@wlbr.iipo.gtegsc.com> fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski) writes:

   The Wire (issue 100) mentioned one of the FMP releases (I think it was with
   Derek Bailey) as being among the 100 best ever whatever it is they were
   besting (I can't seem to figure out which pile that issue is currently
   sitting in).

I think it's the whole package that made their list, not any single
volume. In any case, don't take lists like this too seriously. They
can be useful pointers to new music, but they certainly don't
represent anything like objective truth, or even consensus of critical
opinion.

   Were one to pick a best Cecil on FMP CD, would this one be it?

Depends what you like. Do you like Derek Bailey's subtle-noise
approach to improvisation? If so, you'll find this to be a very
interesting and unusual encounter, especially the first half on which
Bailey plays acoustic guitar and Cecil actually restrains himself
enough to make a suitable improvisation partner for such a quiet
instrumentalist. Bailey rarely plays with pianists and Cecil rarely
plays with acoustic guitarists - thus the unusual nature of this duet.
But it isn't my personal favorite, even among the few that I've heard.
That would be the duet with drummer Han Bennink. Cecil has a long
history of making great records with strong drummers, and this disc
fits right into that history. I haven't heard the other Cecil/drummer
duets in the FMP series, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of other
ones were equally nice.

   If so, just which one is it (catalog # -- The Wire didn't mention it)? If
   not, what would it be?

Pleistozaen Mit Wasser        Cecil Taylor & Derek Bailey  FMP CD 16
Spots, Circles, and Fantasy   Cecil Taylor & Han Bennink   FMP CD 5

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From: smehta@kwela.nynexst.Com (Sandeep Mehta)
Subject: Re: Where is Jazz?
Reply-To: smehta@nynexst.com
Organization: Speech Technology, AI Lab, NYNEX S&T Inc, White Plains, NY
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:02:23


> sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz) writes:

> In article <1992Sep8.212435.14550@seada.com>, Sue Raul writes:
> What's happening with jazz in the world?
> 
> Where should I be living? [Sandeep, I know what you're going to say!] ;-)
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> ...and he'd be right.  The question I'd then ask Sandeep is, how
> much longer will New York stay the jazz center if jazz gets
> attendance like the Brotzmann/Crispell/ Drake show we attended?

And you'd be right in asking! In fact, I've been speculating how
valid the title "jazz capital of the world" is for NYC? I do not
think that claim holds a lot of water anymore. There are a half-dozen
"major" clubs that book big name acts. They play it safe and
inevitably charge you a lot of money. The downtown scene is shaky at
best. The New Music Cafe has fizzled out after a year of various
problems -- largely exacerbated by the owner. The KnitFact's last 2
schedules seem watered down. It is rumored that this is largely due
to the downtowners "rebelling" against Michael Dorf's new policy
which gives musicians only 55% of the, already meager, gate instead
of 75%. CBGB's, The Kitchen are alternative rock & industrial places
w/ the occasional "out" jazz gig. The one place that does seem to
have a coherent, albeit very short, jazz series is the performance
space PS-122. The NuYorican Poets Cafe hasn't had any jazz to speak
of for a while either. Brecht Forum also seems to have dried up.  The
Blue Note is a tourist gouger, the midtown clubs are mostly crooners
over expensive dinner type places what with the Copacabana and Tavern
featuring "jazz". This sums up the club activity. Of the majors I'd
say the Vanguard features one adventurous act every few months.

The World Music Institute does sponsor some big name concerts @
Merkin Hall and Symphony Space. The AACM has its annual bash at the
same places. The Brooklyn Museum is still braving it w/ its well
conceived Summer Jazz Series which is in August.

Lincoln Center's "Classical Jazz" series is a cruel joke since its
been cornered by Wynton, his neo-bop cronies, and his loudest
mouthpiece Mr. CrOUCH! The Greenwich Village Jazz Fest hasn't been
held for a few years. JVC Jazz is another joke.

Now you'd wonder why the mystique around NYC's jazz scene? Good
question! 

I'd say if you lived in the north-east US and could travel easily to
Vancouver, Toronto and Victoriaville you'd cover the jazz scene
fairly well. In case you didn't notice all 3 cities are in Canada!!
In terms of audience interest, I'd say San Francisco is far more
"civilized" than NYC.

Pretty bleak picture for jazz eh?

/sandeep
--
smehta@nynexst.com
--
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs."
	-- Edgard Varese
From: jmh@guinevere.pubserv.com (Jeff Helgesen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Joe Henderson trio
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:35:06 GMT

> According to TV listings, he is scheduled to be on Leno on Tuesday
> night.  If it is a trio, then it is likely to be Ron Carter and Al
> Foster.  (Althought it has also been Charlie Haden)

*drool*

If anyone ever doubted that the music format on the Tonight Show
has changed for the better, let this be a signal to wake up.

						Jeff
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Wendy Carlos Blindfold Test
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:31:23 GMT

tygar+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Tygar) writes:
>There is an absolutely hilarious blindfold test of Wendy Carlos
>(synthesizer musician of ``Switched on Bach'' fame) 

I was reading this yesterday, and I have to ask this: Maybe I'm
hallucinating, but I do seem to remember that S-O B was recorded by
a man called WALTER Carlos.

What's the deal here?  Did Walter become Wendy sometime over the last
two decades?  Inquiring minds want to know, but perhaps not all the
details.


--Gidi


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From: mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo)
Subject: Sunny Murray's first album (Was Re: ZYX/ESP)
Organization: The Poto Mitan in the Houmfor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:51:30 GMT

> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro):
> According to the liner notes, Murray's first record under his own name
> features Albert Ayler and Don Cherry! Now there's a record I'd like to
> find some day...

I don't have, and have never heard, this album, but I remember a
Giddins column some years back in which he mentioned that it is
*powerful*. The column ALSO said that the album includes an
Amiri Baraka/LeRoi Jones poem that Giddins described as "intensely
anti-Semitic." He also advised that people sensitive to this avoid
the cut, or the album. Caveat emptor.


While we're talking about Baraka, does anyone else believe like
me that the man has nothing to say, has had nothing to say for some
20 years, and says that nothing badly. I've read and am not
impressed by his BLUES PEOPLE and <the other book he wrote in
the early 60s, whgich I have, but it's packed in a box that I
can't open till I set up my office, which won't happen till next
week -- ah the joys of moving...> I find him pompous and windy
and not very perceptive as a critic. His essays on Coltrane are
painfully obvious, and full of sociological bullshit.

Lately, he seems to have redirected his attentions to Malcolm X,
to the same silly effect. Now Malcolm as an historical figure
ios crying out for critical exmination, especially since every two-bit
nationalist claims to be the "sole" repository of Malcolm's
wisdom (and does so by picking one sentence and excluding all
others -- say the one in which he spoke of being moved by the
piety of white Muslims at Mecca). But of *course* Baraka has
bought into the silly mythologizing of Malcolm (also built around
Martin Luther King) that makes serious study impossible,,,

Off the soapbox now...
-- 
Marcel-Franck Simon             	mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus

	" Papa Loko, ou se' van, ou-a pouse'-n ale'
	  Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe' "