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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: 1st Time Jumper
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:26:48 GMT

Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
Fido-To: jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu

>
 j> This reminds me of Ed's place (Ultimate High Slydiving? here in Colorado).
 j> He advertises on the radio with a "20 year safety record". He also
 j> says that he's been training students for 20 years. While I don't doubt

Hey, would that be Ed Strazdes, or maybe "Skinny Ed?"  If so, tell him I said "HI."  And if he needs a reminder, I jumped with him back when he had less than 100 jumps at Longmont.  In fact, I can prove it by remembering that his 101st jump was a malfunction.

So, he's still around eh?   Hmmm.

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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Roman Candle Theory
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:59:56 GMT

Reply-to: Steve.Ward@p6.f851.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Ward)
Fido-To: brandon heess

My friend at work has already earned his wings by doing ten jumps and he told me of the Roman Candle theory which basically is when you open your chute and it releases but never fully opens like a mushroom, and you fall spinning and yelling and pissing your pants all the way down until you AHHHHHHHHH thump!

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From: fbm@ptcburp.ptcbu.oz.au (Farrell McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Keywords: car keys, pen, wallet, bet, train of thought
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:52:42 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

angus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris McRoberts) writes:

>I was wondering if  anyone else has lost any unusual items while they were
>falling at 120mph towards the earth. My roommate threw his ripcord at the 
>jumpmaster in his level 3.

Perhaps there is someone out there who can tells us about how they
lost their _virginity_ in freefall.....  :-)

Farrell.
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From: esj@viper.eng.ufl.edu (Eric S. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Fruits in Freefall (was: weirdest items lost in freefall)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 19:32:45 GMT

I vote the egg is gonna be slower if hardboiled, faster if uncooked.

;-)

Ej
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: Source for three-axis suspension gadget?
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 00:30:55 GMT

In article <6730158@hplsla.hp.com> artb@hplsla.hp.com (Art Bori) writes:
>They had a sign on it that said "6000 rides and <no hurls>".  Of course, 
>I could have been the first "hurler" if I'd gotten into the thing.

i doubt you'd hurl. it's disorienting, but doesn't make you dizzy at 
all. i felt really strange when i got off, but that was as much tension
in my belly (it really works you hard if you fight it) as it was
disorientation.

then again, tndem students occasionally hurl under canopy.

>Blue skies,
>Art Bori
>D-11402

tim


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From: mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Mass-Way
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 15:13:29 GMT

bob@pta.pyramid.com.au (Robert Vernon) writes:
: Back when I was starting, I was told you could land a 100-way, they
: would fall so slow.  Since 100-ways are fairly common nowadays, this
: theory has been disproved.  Or is it just that all the participants
: have been too gutless to hang in there.  :-)

What if all 100 participants dumped at 200 feet causing a solid wall
of sniveling F-111 over the entire formation.  The resulting 20,000
square feet (200x100) of fabric should cause the formation to be slow
enough to land, right?  ;^>

Eeek-ghads! I'll let someone else try it!
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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Long day at the DZ
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:22:26 GMT

Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
Fido-To: wain@decoy.uucp

BC>: Anyone got any others?
>
>Howabout Caribou, Twin Otter, Porter, Cessna 411?

 w> Several years ago (about 9) I jumped a unique plane out in
 w> Issaquah WA.  It was a single radial engine with tubular frame.
 w> Does anyone know any more details about this plane.  Such as
 w> manufacture (I Beleive CURTIS) Model or anything else.

I jumped a plane like that once, it was a Norseman.  Loud and slow.  Carried about 8 or so, and not very hight either.  <G>

Bill Caefer


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From: glenda@escoria.lanl.gov (Glenda McGrath)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Fruits in Freefall (was: weirdest items lost in freefall)
Date: 31 Jul 92 21:07:24 GMT
	<1992Jul31.151451.25724@virtech.uucp>
	<1992Jul31.193245.28164@eng.ufl.edu>
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article <1992Jul31.193245.28164@eng.ufl.edu> esj@viper.eng.ufl.edu (Eric S. Johnson) writes:

When voting on the egg are we assuming that no klunky catcher has
broken the shell?
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Twin Bonanza (Was: Re: Long day at the DZ)
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:48:38 GMT

sparkie@spock.cs.wisc.edu (Mark Horn) writes:
: There are other differences, too.  Not the least of which is the fact
: that the twin bo has two piston powered engines whereas the King Air
: has turbine powered engines.

I'm showing my ignorance here.  I know they're different, but what's
the difference between turbine-power and super-charger.  I was told
that the twin-bo had a super-charger.

: That is the single most distinguishing thing about the Twin Bonanza:
: it is LOUD!

Very loud.

: Also, the rear horizontal stabilizers are only a few feet behind
: the door.

The twin-bo at HPC was taken out of commision last year by a jumper's
head hitting the elevators and sheering part of it off.  He hit the
elevator as he was dragged out of the plane due to his reserve being
accidently activated; he was floating in the door at the time. The
plane and the jumper both miraculously landed safely.

12 minutes to altitude in comfort, but still a "let's be aware" sort
of plane.
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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Suggestions re: AADs
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:25:11 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art,. Athens

In article <1992Jul22.155234.18156@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> sparkie@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Mark Horn) writes:
>>>I once saw a friend (foolishly)  
>>>playing around under his good main.  His AAD fired his square reserve into his
>>>main.  After cutting away, his main risers caught the right nose of his
>>>reserve and lodged there.  He spiraled to the ground and managed to find about
>>>the only concrete on the DZ.  
>>
>>I'll bet it was an FXC...
>
>That's correct - it was!
>

So what was the foolish part?



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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Tail exits
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:16:18 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art,. Athens

I've yet to jump a rear exit airplane such as the CS-130 or CASA.
Are they better or worse for formations. I understand that the door
is larger, but what about turbulance and 'falling into' the slipstream.
Are these factors?

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Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs)
Subject: Source for three-axis suspension gadget?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:18:03 GMT

Does anyone know a source for the three axis suspension gadget that Mike
Michigan used in _Travelling II_?  I'm talking about the thing with three
concentric hoops.  Each hoop supports the one inside it along an axis 90
degrees from the previous one.  I've heard them called "witch's cradles" as
well, and have no idea of the proper name for them.  There is a slight
chance that our gym might acquire one, if I can come by a source.  I don't
need to tell most of you how much I'd love to have free access to one of
these!  I've tried calling the most likely looking sport stores in the
area, without much luck.  You just can't walk into your average Oshman's
and buy one.  I guess that if I don't have any luck here, I'll try getting
in touch with the world freestyle federation.  Any other suggestions?

BS!

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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Roman Candle Theory
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:25:22 GMT

Reply-to: Brandon.Heess@p6.f851.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Brandon Heess)
Fido-To: steve ward

 SW> My friend at work has already earned his wings by doing 
 SW> ten jumps and he told me of the Roman Candle theory 
 SW> which basically is when you open your chute and it 
 SW> releases but never fully opens like a mushroom, and you 
 SW> fall spinning and yelling and pissing your pants all 
 SW> the way down until you AHHHHHHHHH thump!

Great!  Sounds like fun!!


Brandon

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From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Subject: Re: Suggestions re: AADs
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:57:53 GMT
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)

In article <1992Jul23.153733.27549@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>
sparkie@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Mark Horn) writes:


   That's what this guy was doing.  He was below 1000' (firing
   altitude on his AAD), and doing front riser turns.  The circuit
   which detect altitude was already closed.  By doing front riser
   turns, he fooled the AAD into thinking that he went back into
   freefall and it fired.


The couple experienced jumpers I know with FXC's, (lemme tell ya, I
*never* get anywhere *near* being above them in FF) they turn the
knob from JUMP to OFF as soon as their canopy is open... thus, no fear
of accidental deployment while playing around under canopy.

Wish I could afford a Cypruss... but I'm still gonna keep a
wait-and-see attitude for the next year before I'd even seriously
consider it.

Barry



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From: buys@research.ptt.nl
Subject: Gifs & Info about Hang Gliding
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:16:13 GMT

DOes anyone know where I can find Gif's and info about
hang gliding?

Regards,

Jan-Paul Buys
J.P.Buys@research.ptt.nl

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From: dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs)
Subject: Re: Long day at the DZ
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 05:15:08 GMT

In article <411.2A72A01A@ehsnet.fidonet.org>
  SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE) writes:
>Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
>
>The only twin beeches I've jumped or flown were B- or D-18s.  I've never
>heard them called Bonanzas.  ICOCBW.

Yeah.  While a lot of different planes could literally be called "twin
Beeches", I've never heard anyone use that phrase and mean anything except
a Beech-18.  This model seems to have appropriated the generic term.
If you want to jump a C-18, Bill, we've got one in Belen.  I'm told
the twin Beeches in Eloy are D-18s, not that I know precisely what the
difference is.  We also had a Bonanza come in once to cover a weekend
when the C-18 was busted.  They are most definitely different planes.
The very vague impression I have of that weekend is that a twin Bo looks
not unlike a little tiny King Air.  It holds about 2/3 the people, but
the general lines of the fuselage reminded me of it's bigger cousin.
It's been a long while since I jumped it, but we got maybe 10 jumpers in
it, I think?

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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: skydive brochures
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:58:58 GMT

Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
Fido-To: steve ward

 SW> Anyways I might be having second thoughts on this 
 SW> subject since a friend of mine told me about the Roman 
 SW> Candle theory. 

Hmmmm, how old is this friend?  I don't think that term has been even spoken in 25 or 30 years.  I think you can safely discount any information this 'friend' may have as being "suspect" at best.

Skydiving today is a very safe, and extremely fun sport.  Go for it.

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From: jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu (Jan Vilhuber)
Subject: Re: 1st Time Jumper
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:55:37 GMT

In article <416.2A72A06E@ehsnet.fidonet.org> SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE) writes:
>Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
>Fido-To: jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu
> j> This reminds me of Ed's place (Ultimate High Slydiving? here in Colorado).
> j> He advertises on the radio with a "20 year safety record". He also
> j> says that he's been training students for 20 years. While I don't doubt
>Hey, would that be Ed Strazdes, or maybe "Skinny Ed?"  If so, tell him I said "HI."  And if he needs a reminder, I jumped with him back when he had less than 100 jumps at Longmont.  In fact, I can prove it by remembering that his 101st jump was a malfunction.
>
I don't know his full name, nor his nickname, so I couldn't tell you. As
for saying hi to him, I don't jump there. His plane crashed a while
back and the FAA is trying to bust him: no license to fly, nevermind do
acrobatics in that 182.

>So, he's still around eh?   Hmmm.
>
If that's him, he WAS around. I think the FAA closed his operation down
(good thing, too, if you ask me.. that place is not safe!)

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From: masterov@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael Masterov)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: weirdest items lost in freefall
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:25:31 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <BELBOZ.92Jul29131857@hoe.frc.ri.cmu.edu> (Barry  Brumitt) writes:
>Well, on my AFF 3, I was wearing a protec, glasses and goggles. 
>
>I lost the glasses, but kept both the goggles and the helmet. I think
>they vanished around pulltime, because I definitely had them during
>freefall, but they weren't there went I saddled out.
>
>So, if your at Parkman Ohio and find a pair of titanium glasses,
>please, let me know.
>
>Barry
>
>ps. Made for a *very expensive* jump: $151 + $300.
>
>
And I thought I was the only one.  I lost the lenses from my glasses when
my canopy opened - still have the frames.  Made for a fun landing; 20-400
with 0.75 Astigmatism.  Wound up following a first-timer down.  Flaring
was an adventure.  Thank god I was under a Goliath.

.sigs are a waste of bandwidth
From: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Yigal Meir)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: B&B in Washington st. and British Columbia
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:18:44 GMT
Reply-To: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu.UUCP (Yigal Meir)
Organization: UCSB Physics Department


 I am going to spend a week in Northwestern  Washington state,
 Victoria and Vancouver. I will appreciate any recommendations
 (or complaints) concerning Bed & Breakfast establishments in the
  area.

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University of California
Santa Barbara


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: tony@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Tony Quartuccio)
Subject: Czechoslovakia
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:15:32 GMT

I'm off to Czechoslovakia soon, and I've got a few questions
for anyone who's been there before:

1.  Is tap water as clean and safe to consume as it
    is in the USA?   

2.  Do people generally understand any English or German?
    (Can I get by not knowing how to speak Czech?)
       
3>  Is it relatively easy to exchange AMEX traveler'
    checks for local currency?

    Any feedback will be MOST WELCOME!  Thanks.
From: jjones@bach.udel.edu (James A Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Malaria medicine - Larium
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:28:37 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

I just returned from 4 months in West Africa and I thought this
info might be of interest (especially since so many of the
rec.travel people gave me useful info before I left).  I took Larium
to prevent malaria and had no problems with it.  I took 1 tablet  a
week for the first month and then one every two weeks (the last one
will be in mid-August) until a month after I got back.  I felt
a bit spacey the first two times I took it, but afterwards, no ill
effects at all, and best of all, NO MALARIA!  I would not
hesitate to take it again.
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From: bayomi@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca (Dennis Bayomi)
Subject: Re: What to see in Prague, Slovakia, Austria, Budapest, Munich ?
Keywords: tourist looking for advice
Organization: Computer Department, Medicine, Univ. of Manitoba
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:19:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.010900.22123@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> wcs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs) writes:

>Next month I'll be spending a week in Prague, a week at a conference
>in Poprad, and then a week wandering around on trains, ending up in Munich.
>What should I see on the way?  Tentative plans are to spend a day or two
>in Slovakia, then Budapest, then Vienna, then take scenic trains to
>Innsbruck and up to Munich, but I'm pretty flexible about that part.
>Is there anything I shouldn't (or should) miss?

>Also, what is there to do in Munich for about 6 hours between airport
>and train station, in case we can't make the train connection we'd like?

>I speak a little bit of German, and we've been listening to
>phrase-book tapes for Czech, so we've got some ability to handle
>non-English-speaking activities and navigation.

>Thanks
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>If you're reading this in *.politics.*, I'll try to keep up with the discussion,
>but any good insults should be sent by email so I'll be sure to see them.

Great decision - two summers ago I spent 3 weeks travelling from Vienna -> 
Prague -> Budapest.

You've probably got plenty of advice on Vienna and Prague and since I spent 
about 9 days in Budapest, I can give you a few pointers.  Sorry I'm not near 
my travel guides to give you the exact names/spellings, etc. and I'm on a 
plane tmrw for holiday of my own to Nova Scotia.  Anyways ...

1. Walk the Chain Bridge (sorry I forgot the spelling of it in Hungarian) - 
something like Szechenyi Lanchid) from Pest to Buda and back in the 
evening - great view.  If you can, also walk along the river walk on the 
Buda side to see the Parliament in the evening.

2. Spend a couple of hours walking Margaret island.

3. Visit the museum/art gallery on the left of the square ("Freedom or 
Liberation Square" I belive - near the amusement park). Quite impressive.

4. Spend a day (easily) walking Buda.  Superb view of Pest further along 
past the castle.  

5. Superb pastry shop near Vaci Street - believe it's Feszabadulas square or 
Vorosmarthy Ter. Inexpensive and delicious - I made several return visits.

There's lots more but hope this helps a bit.

Dennis
Winnipeg, CANADA
From: tjb@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: hotel in Vienna
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:27:53 GMT
Organization: NIST

Hi,
I am going to Vienna in 10 days, and would
like to get some recommendations for
an  inexpensive and nice hotel there.
also - some good restaurants.
Thanks !

Dov Barak
barak@ee.bgu.ac.il
From: skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: HELP! Best book on Belize & Guatemala
Summary: HELP! Best book on Belize & Guatemala
Keywords: Help, Belize, Book, Guatemala
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:40:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.skipa.712089631
Organization: University of Washington


A friend and I are planning to go to Belize & Guatemala
this Winter.  What are the best guidebooks for this area?
Does Lonely Planet have a book?

Thanks in advance,

skipa@milton.acs.washington.edu