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From: baze@milton.u.washington.edu (Behzad)
Subject: Re: ARE YOU ALL LIKE THIS
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:06:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.150911.1@wharton.upenn.edu> wrightb@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>WHY are you people so radical.You seem to be down right violent.
>
>At the slightest insult it seems as though you want blood.Is this
>
>a thing about honor or is it something you are born with. Do the 
>
>attitudes I observed thus far reflect a general attitude of middle
>
>eastern people or is it just the folx posting to this news group?
>
>I'm genuinely curios. 
>
>
>                                                    STORM
>
>P.S. ALL RESPONSES WELCOME
>
>

  SCI is a very diverse newsgroup.  There is a great variety of people posting

  in this newsgroup.  We have different points of view and we support different

  political tangents.

  The postings you've observed recently are the back and forth attacks 

  between the supporters of the Mojahedeen and the non-supporters.

  Now don't tell me that the Republicans, Democrats, and other political

  groups don't argue in this country.  

  You'll always have people disagreeing with each other in every single 

  country.  Especially after a revolution, war, and continuing trouble.

  Seems like everyone has a solution on how to fix the current dilemma

  of our nation... be it economics, government, or religion.

  Please don't generalize and insult us.  The media has done enough of this,

  thank you.  

  We are not violent people, but merely trying to better our situation.

  We are in a solution-finding situation.  

  Imagine this :  There was a revolution in YOUR country and YOU had to leave

  YOUR motherland to find better living situations.  YOU had to learn another

  language (not a problem) and adjust to a different culture (slightly bigger

  load to carry) and then be the victim of ridicule and racism (not everyone

  is going to like you).  Believe me, the media doesn't help you either, by 

  portraying a negative image of you to the world, just because the media's

  government doesn't get along with YOUR contry.  On top of this, YOU feel 

  that you are getting homesick.  Isn't this enough to flare up your temper?  
  
  Then, you have to listen to the points of view of some of your contrymen.

  I am sure you are not going to like their political standing!!  At the same

  time, they are not going to like your points of view.

  This is exactly what is going on amongst us right now.  We have to deal with

  a lot of elements (many against us), which  doesn't make most of us very 

  happy....

  
  *Above points open for discussion*

  
 Behzad:  
   BAZE@U.WASHINGTON.EDU   
 "Ever try, ever fail.  Never mind.  Try harder, fail better!" --Sam Beckett
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: root@ncube.com (Operator)
Subject: Re: For Babak wuz Re: MoahA'ereh as well : -) Re: "The Successor" by GholAm Hossein SAedi
Organization: nCUBE HeadQuarters
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:20:32 GMT


>No one of these so-called "friends" will or can help you on the day of
>resurrection. So wake up and rely on yourself.

What if there isn't such a day?


Captain Zod...
zod@ncube.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Mips unveils computers based on consortium specs
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:13:12 GMT


	SUNNYVALE, Calif. (UPI) -- Mips Computer Systems Inc. unveiled the
first computers Monday built to the specifications of an industry
consortium rather than being based on a chip from Intel Corp.
	The Mips R4000 systems are potentially attractive because its chips
can provide extra performance from use of reduced-instruction set
computing or RUSC technology. The RISC chips are usually used just on
top-end workstations.
	The two new computers, dubbed ARCSystems, are designed to bring RISC
technology into the personal computer marketplace, the company said.
Mips has also designed the chips to run Microsoft Corp.'s Windows NT
operating system, expected to be available later this year.
	The Advanced Computing Environment consortium, composed of industry
giants Microsoft, Digital Equipment Corp. and others, had agreed to set
standards for machines that will use Mips and Intel's chips and run
Windows NT and Unix software.
	But the idea lost momentum when Mips began having financial troubles
and Digital announced a competing RISC chip, dubbed Alpha.
	Mips said the first machines will initially sell from $5,995, and
feature a color monitor, a hard-disk drive and a compact disc drive.
	Mips, of Sunnyvale, Calif., recently announced that it has signed an
agreement to be acquired by Silicon Grpahis, of Mountain View, Calif.


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From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: VezArateh Farhango-Honar 
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:30:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.224121.1668@cs.ubc.ca> fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh) writes:
>
>mA meegozareem z-e een jahAn dar hameh hAl
>			meependAreem k-e een jahAn meegozarad
>
>dAl bedeh
>
dar biAbAn gar beh shogheh ka'beh khAhi zad ghadam
  		sarzansh-hA gar konad khAreh moghilan, gham makhor

rrrrrreh bedeh!


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From: hooshyar@scrp.Stanford.EDU (Hooshyar)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not : -)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Reply-To: hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu (Hooshyar)
Organization: Stanford Cardiac Rehab Program
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:55:48 GMT

fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh) writes:
>
>	yAd-e to konam delam tapeedan geerad
>		khoonAbeh z-e deedeh-am chakeedan geerad
>
>	har jA khabar-e doost reseedan geerad
>		beechAreh delam z-e khod rameedan geerad
>
>dAl please.

dar rah-e eshghat ey sanam, sheeftey-e balA manam
                  chand moghAyerat koni, bA ghamat AshenA manam

tAhereh khAk-e pAy-e to, mast-e mey-e laghAy-e to
                  montazer-e atAy-e to, mo'taref-e khatA manam

'TAhereh'

ejAlatan yek meem enAyat befarmAeed


Hooshyar F. Naraghi
hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu
(415) 324-1055
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From: amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Summary: beit
Keywords: bah bah che sheree!
Organization: naghAl khooneh
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:20:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.213944.22124@u.washington.edu> payman@hardy.u.washington.edu (Payman Arabshahi) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.195128.17035@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:

>>to keh az koocheyeh ma'shoogheyeh man migozari,
>>                      man ham az koocheyeh ma'shoogheyeh to migozaram
>>
>>mim bedeh.

>mAh-e sha'bAn maneh az dast ghadah kin khorsheed
>              az nazar tA shab-e eyd-e ramazAn khAhad shod

>                                                  [Hafez]

>Time for a 'dAl'.

 dastam begereft-o pA be pA bord
                                tA sheeveh rAh raftan Amookht
          
                                       (referring to khAnom vAledeh amoo)


 teh donoghteh marhamat befarmayeen
 
 amoo
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From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Subject: Already
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 05:28:42 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park



Fellow netters,

Recently Naghmeh khanoom, who by the way has agreed to skip articles
she doesn't like but has as of late picked up the habbit of sending
blank messages by e-mail, asked you all to come up with the Farsi
equivalent for "irony" and "cynical". Some of you came up with
relatively good answers, and a few of you are now very full of
yourselves for doing so. Well pull up your "astins" once again, this
one might be quite a challenge, and then again it might not, in which
case I don't know what I'm talking about. 

Anyway, in your opinions what is the Farsi equivalent for the word
"already", as in say "I've already done such and such a thing".

Good luck.

Payandeh Baad Alireza
Iran


p.s The above is not a mistake, I just thought hamisheh sha'boon ye
dafam Ramezoon. :)

p.p.s It would be appreciated by all if the sci idiot whose initials
are BS (how appropriate!) did not participate. I'm willing to bet $100
he'll post some kind of response, no matter how stupid. He can't help
it.

Any takers?
From: acsossc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Samir Chaudhari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: An observation: (Re: Drinking Chai )
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:53:00 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 	
	As an Indian i am surprised to find Tea being referred to as 'chai'
in iranian, the same as in Hindi. Out of the 20 different languages that 
are spoken in India, Mararthi (language) has 'chaha' for tea, and 'sakhar' 
for sugar, 'shakkar' in Hindi. 
Its really amazing how words have little variation across the globe.

Samir 
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From: benf@mips.com (Ben Fathi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Kerman
Date: 15 Apr 1992 03:58:24 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dish.mips.com


"... The last two dynasties spilled a great deal of innocent blood in order
to win or keep the throne. Imagine the monarch Agha Mohammad Khan, who
orders the entire population of the city of Kerman murdered or blinded-no
exceptions. His praetorians set energetically to work. They line up the
inhabitants, slice off the heads of the adults, gouge out the eyes of the
children. In the end, despite taking regular breaks, the praetorians grow
too exhausted to lift their swords or knives anymore. Only thanks to this
fatigue do a remnant of the people preserve their lives and eyesight.
Later, processions of blinded children leave the city. Some, wandering
around the countryside, lose their way in the desert and die of thirst.
Other groups reach inhabited settlements and, singing songs about the
extermination of the citizens of Kerman, beg for food. News travels
slowly in these days, so the people they meet are shocked to hear a
chorus of barefoot, blinded children singing about whistling swords
and tumbling heads. They ask what crime Kerman committed to earn such a
cruel punishment. At that question, the children break into a song about
the offense, which was this: Because their fathers had sheltered the
previous Shah, the new ruler could not forgive them."

				From:		Shah of Shahs
				By:		Ryszard Kapuscinski
				Published By:	Vintage International

I have no reason to question the accuracy of the above statements. I
was simply shocked to see them. Did this really happen? I don't
remember reading anything like this anywhere else.

	ben
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Ben Fathi			MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
benf@mips.com		 928 Arques Ave, Sunnyvale CA 94086
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khomeini spies are still around (was: Re: Terrorist Khomeini ...
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:50:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.saied.702935449
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>Second, the support for the Mojahedin has come in more tangible
>ways than a message posted to the net. The very fact that the
>Mojaheidn have relied on the financial and manpower from Iranians
>and have grown so rapidly is indicative of their strong social
>base. Hundereds of thousands of dollars goes from Iranians in the
>U.S. to the Mojahedin. That is the real support.

Let me mention something else: the large demonstrations held
in the US and Europe in support of the Resistance is also
indicative of the Mojahedin's wide social base outside Iran.
Tell me, which organization or government has ever been able
to gather such large groups outside its country?
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Already
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:43:24 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr11.130341.10765@ifi.uio.no>, kamrani@ifi.uio.no (Kamran) writes:
> 
> What about TA-HALA or TA-ALAAN or more formally (TA KONOON).
> But I am sure that I don't stand a chance when BS comes with his
>  suggestion. I remember that he once for a couple of weeks ago ranked
> himself with Saadi, which reminds me of a history about KHAJOYE-
> KERMANI who lived at the same time, and after hearing about Saadi, he
>  left Kerman to meet Saadi in SHiraz and do some MOSHAERE.
> Arriving in Shiraz after some search he finds Saadi's house and 
> Saadi's daughter which too was famous of having inherited his father's
>  talent opens the door and KHAJOO introduce himself with a verse.
>  which I unfortunately do not remember and ask for Saadi, so she turns
> around calling his father says:
> 
>  BABA BIA, BABA BIA SHAER ZE KERMAN AMADEH
>                    KERMAN ZE GOH AMAD BOROON, EEN GOOH ZE KERMAN AMADEH
> 
>  to all kermanees, no offence meant.
> -- 
> IBN-BATUTE


Is Ben-Batuta your real name, or is there something behind this appellation?

zafar
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:07:48 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <kucccsINNrvo@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.175007.1080@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>>
>>I completely agree with you. Though I think hijab is necessary, it is NOT the
>>main point to be beaten to death in Islam. 
> 
> at last!  some sign of moderation... im gaining new respect for you
> zafar.
> 
>>It is not even an enforceable rule.
> 
> then why is it enforced in so many islamic states.  or more to the point,
> why are the rules and regulation of islam so open to interpretation, which
> in turn, leaves room for manipulation and abuse?

you have to differentiate, there is no such thing as an islamic country, but a
lot of countries where muslims are the majority. if the rules of islam are
interpretted in the light of culutres that are not technologically advanced
then you will find impractical interpretations.

this comes to the problem that is being faced in many muslim countries. the
leaders are interpretting islam in the traditional way which would have been
good sometime ago, but it is not necessarily the way to interpret islam now.
the political do this in order to keep their dictatorships in power. if islam
were truly to be the norm in various countries, that would upset the balance of
power and result in other facets which i would rather not get into right now.
any way the correct practice of islam would not allow for it. islam is however
a damocratic type system, and allows for various points of views. IF PEOPLE
WERE MORE TOLERANT it would not cause much problems but the problem with the
muslims today is that everyone wants to say "I am a Muslim" and not "We are
Muslims".

> 
>>It is not a big deal if someone wears "correct" hijab or not. The important
>>thing is INTENTION, 
> 
> well... well...  this is quite refreshing.  i dont know which side of
> the bed you got up on this morning, but do it again!

I did not notice anything different.

> 
>>the prophet of god and Quran have stated specifically that
>>all actions should be judged by the intentions.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> wheeeeeeeuuuu!  then i guess my posts wont land me in hell afterall!
> actually ive known this all along.  without it, i wouldnt have dared.
> 
>>zafar

I don't think any of my posts are out of the ordinary, mostly about historical
stuff, and if some people would listen to me unbiasedly, they'd find out i'm a
real pussy cat.

zafar
From: taqwaa@equinox.unr.edu (Muhammad Taqwaa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Iraq combats Iranian sorties, violates peace treaty
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:33:35 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

In article <2522@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:
>
>		This is How Neo-Khomeinists think...
>
>	I have received this message of hate from Mr Muhammad Taqwaa

>
>>now stupid sadam and you are in bad condition ready to be kiled by US
>>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	Mr Taqwaa is threatening my life, to your knowledge Mr Taqwaa
>	your name will be handed to the police both in the UK and USA.
>	
>>shut up for ever dirty BASI
>>ANd tell Rajavi shut up too.
>
>	

Mr Jaber,

I don't care if you gave my name to Iraq embassy or police  or what ever...
Just for your information I should inform you that threatening of killing 
was for Mr. Sadam not you. Don't scare just sleep !

Second : I am Iranian Arab proud to be Moslem and I am from the same city 
that people like you (Pro Criminal Sadam) raped about 20 innocent girl.



For Dear SCI users this man send me E-mail with a lot of personal accusation
I just deleted and ignore it .

He obviously threatening Us with killing 1 million Iranian :
I apologize all of you for using some appropriate words, it was  out of anger 
because of this dirty claim.


With high regards to Iran And Iraq people hate Sadam and people like 
this Jaber. 



BTW: Mr. Jaber My complete name is Mohammad Taqwaa Yaser  
(Go give it to Iraq embassy UK & USA police,  MKO )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir)
Subject: Re: For Babak wuz Re: MoahA'ereh as well : -) Re: "The Successor" by GholAm Hossein SAedi
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:21:27 GMT

In article <sehari.703384963@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>[...stuff deleted]
>
>As I said before in another posting.  You guys love the silence of the
>lambs.  Where were you, when I was getting flamed right and left because
>I had the courage to break the norm in SCI and attack this group last year.
>
>[...more stuff deleted]
>
>No, you can not silence me with any of the methods mentioned above.
>I write not because I would like to run for an office, or become a political
>leader. If I would have liked to do any of that I should have wrote more
>conservatively.  My writing is to inform people, to express my views even
>if it anger many people.  After all, the one who dares to tell a mother your
>
>[...even more deletions]

Babak, I was not reading sci last year and I don't know about the situation
that you are talking about.  But more often than not, how you defend something
is as important as what you are defending.  If you are sincere about only 
wanting to inform sci readers on issues they should know, then IMHO there are
better ways of communicating.  There are a lot of people who start reading sci
and many who stop reading it.  To those who have just started reading it, you
look the way mko's looked to foriegners during their attacks on embassies.
Namely that they were so angry (for reasons that the foriegners cannot fully
relate to) that they crossed the boundries of civility.  Don't be offended.
I am not trying to flame you, only to try to help you see how your actions
reflect upon you.  As another example consider the Baha'i discussions with 
Seyed.  Even though Seyed became indignant several times or at least bitter,
his opposition never lost their cool and always acted politely.  To many
people this brought a new respect for the person, if not necessarily for his
openions (this includes Seyed by the way).  So how about keeping your anger
under control, instead of letting anger control you?  You don't have to listen
to me of course.  But I really think my suggestion is your best approach.
 

Regards,
 Arash

*****************************************************************************

If you want to destroy something, do not attack it.  Rather defend it badly.
							Dr. Ali Shari'aty

I maintain that the current regime in Iran has done an astonishingly good job
in "badly" defending Iran and Islam.

*****************************************************************************
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From: amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed)
Subject: Re: The Flower of Cow's Tongue !!??
Organization: naghAl khooneh
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:26:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.075655.11385@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:


>Hi,

>Last night I was at a friend's house and her stomach wasn't feeling
>too well. She said the cure is "gol-gAv-zaboon" (flower of cow's
>tongue :-) or something like it. So she "damm"ed (brewed ?) some
>"gol-gAv-zaboon" and we each drank some. It tasted good I thought, but
>none of us had the slightest idea what it's made of, or even if we had
>the name right. Could some kind soul (except the cow itself, since he
>can't see what's growing on his tongue :-) shed some light on this
>flowery matter?

>    Thanks,
>    --mack

>P.S.
>amoo joon, does "ghahve khoone ye mash yadollAh" serve "gol-gAv-zaboon"?

 DAdAsh zAdeh joon,

 Dast beh deleh amoo nazAr keh kabAbeh!
 As far as I remember amoo always ran for his life whenever they mentioned 
 that "ma'ajoon" around him! It's probably not bad at all except that it 
 would not rank high on amoo's "taste bud chart".

 dar zemn, neither mash YadollAh nor any another "mash" associated with amoo
 serves/sells/cultivates/gargles/brews/smuggles/exports that kind of flower.

 chAyee meyl befarmAyeed amoo jan!

 amoo
From: suzi@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Suzan Ehdaie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:23:14 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

In article <1992Apr14.073613.16758@cs.ubc.ca> fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh) writes:
>
>benAm-e khodAvand-e jAn-o hkerad
>                          kaz een bartar andeesheh bar nagzarad
>
>(your bayt must start with a dAl -- or dAl bedeh :-)) 
>
>Cheers for now --df

Hello :-)

Di sheikh hami gasht gerd-e shahr ba cheragh

	ke as div or dad malolam-o ensanam arezoost

- Now start the other bayt with "Ta".



Have a Beautiful Day, 

Suzan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:10:35 GMT

baze@milton.u.washington.edu (Behzad) writes:
[insult and accusations deleted]

>  Mojahedeen..  grow up and get a brain for a change.

Behzad, lets suppose that the Mojahedin have no brain.

You have a brain. What have you done for the suffering of your
people? You have heard of mass killings in Iran. You have heard of
torture in Iran. You have heard of increasing unemployment,
corruption, suicide, theft, ... in Iran. What have you done for it?

You know that the Khomeini regime has been condmend for its
violation of basic human rights by the UN General Assembly, the
UN Commission on Human Rights, the AI, ... What have you done for
those whose rights have been violated? You know what has happened
to Iranian women, to Iran's culture, to Iran's image all under
the evil Khomeini regime. Did you write a letter condemning
these? Did you contribute some of your money to the families of
Khomeini's victims?

Did you ever try to fight this regime? Can you imagineihow 
difficult it might be?

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