From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Newsgroups: alt.flame,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: GAY & LESBIAN DISCRIMINATION IS FUCKING HILARIOUS
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:18:04 GMT
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr7.183222.15085@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <mw9TiB3w164w@Bogus.COM> punk@Bogus.COM (Jack C. Royce) writes:
>>
>>Ok, I am glad that you can respect that some people don't like that kind of
>>stuff, and think that it is distasteful.
>>
>>But, I fail to see where naked fucking faggots should be on the front page
>>of the news paper.  Have you ever seen two naked heterosexuals fucking on
>>the front page of the news paper?  Nooo..  You have not.

there are plenty of porno mags and videos which show just that.  do
i think that my kids should watch them?  no.  but since i don't make
a big issue out of sex, but do instead out of violence, guess what?  
they think depictions of *any*flavor* of bodies/sex is pretty boring.  
and they beg me to take them to "terminator 2".  they think sex is 
something grownups do becuase only grownups are taht stupid.  

>>There ARE pornography laws you know.  The newspaper is readily available to
>>children.
>
>I don't see why PLAYBOY should be hidden from children if GUNS & AMMO
>is not, honestly.

my feeling exactly.  although, i have problems with playboy on non-
sex issues, and am not wild about my kids looking at it.  no "guns 
& ammo" in my house.  

>>I personally will not have my children exposed to this against my
>>will.
>
>Fine.  Don't take them outside.

this is his choice.  he has the right to raise kids as he sees fit.  
what he does *not* have is the right to ask the rest of the world to
conform to the way *he* chooses to raise his kids.  

period.  

>>Its our jobs as parents to teach out children that sex isn't something
>>you just go do at the drop of the hat.

i completely agree.  making a big deal out of it, and hiding it from 
them is not imho, the way to do it.  it didn't work for me, after all!  

>>Its damned hard to do that if you were to have naked faggots
>>on the newspapers,

just talk to them about it.  kids are pretty smart.  give them a
chance to think for themselves.  

>>and you would probably like to have them on PBS as well,
>>maybe guest stars on Mr. Rogers?

actually, i think gay guest stars on mr. rogers would be great.  
you know, dr. smith and dr jones who run the animal clinic down 
the street... or penelope and persephone parakeet, who are new 
in the neighborhood of make believe!  ;)  the fact that they're
gas or lesbians is mentioned perhaps once briefly in passing, then
not a big deal ever again.  

>It's funny how people are equating PBS these days with Mr. Rogers and
>Sesame Street.  When I was a wee little one, watching endless reruns
>of Sesame Street at home, I always found Bert and Ernie an "odd
>couple": ostensibly two male characters sharing an apartment, living,
>eating, even sleeping and almost bathing together, who never had any
>romantic attachments to women.  They seemed like lovers to _me_...

tee hee hee...

cute!
peg
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