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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 09:13:24 CST
From:         GA3662@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      Solution to Network printing problems
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

To all of you who have tried to help me with my problem printing
NB4 on a networked printer--I have now found a much simpler
solution than sending a timeout message to the printer.  And I
actually got the answer from our Network administrator, who has
the handicap of being unable to speak any natural language (only
various dialects of COMPUTER).  After you tell NB to print (and
wait while it downloads our pretty new fonts and all), type
CTL+ALT+Grey * (asterisk on the keypad).  You see nothing, but
this apparently sends and end-of-file character to the printer, and
VOILA!!  It prints!!  I have been using Printd for over a year, and
had customized my keyboard etc. for that, but now I can use
the regular print commands, (presumably including the multiple
copy part, when that works).  Try it and see if it works on
your network.
Again, many thanks to all who tried to help.
                                            Geoff Nathan
                                       ga3662@siucvmb.siu.edu
From: walshj@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU (Jerome T. Walsh)
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Subject: RE: German "sz"
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:28:45 GMT
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In Message Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:55:14 EST, SCHARTA@YALEVM.BITNET writes:

>but is replaced by an empty box. If I want to have displayed the "sz" I have
>to swapp the Screenfont pool. Steve from NBI told me that they know this

Aaron,

  Somewhere along the line I have managed to sneak a peek at some of the
Lingua beta-documentation, which spoke about tailoring fontpools to one's
individual tastes (moving characters from other font pools, etc.).  I can't
tell you how to do it, or even whether the capability is part of the final
Lingua release.  But if it is (even though undocumented as yet), it may
offer you a possible route.  Now, do any of the Lingua beta testers out
there know if there is such a procedure?
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From: IVAA@UTMARTN.BITNET (Glenn Everett)
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Subject: Toshiba 321 driver
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:55:35 GMT
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> Here is a printer driver problem that the good folks at NBI have not (yet?)
> been able to overcome. Perhaps someone on the list can give it a try. I
> Now then: in NB4, Toshiba 321 printouts show a number of additional blank
> lines at the top of each page, with the ssame number missing at the bottom.
> In effect, there is a double top margin, and no bottom margin. This was not th
> case in NB3, incl. NB3.1, except when I used MLA style (the only canned
> style I use).
> With MLA style mss. I manually adjusted the platen. That was fine for longer
>  text
> (sorry) texts, but will not do for one-page office memos, because you lose a
> Albrecht Holschuh, Indiana University, Holschuh@IUBACS, Holschuh@ucs.indiana.e

Perhaps I misunderstand, but if you had a problem with NB 3.0, then
perhaps it was your configuration.  I have been running NB with a
Toshiba 321 for several years with no problems whatsoever, using several
options from the MLA style menu.

Glenn Everett
English Dept.
University of Tennessee at Martin
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:12:45 DST
From:         "Nicolai Winther-Nielsen" <INNWN@VM2.UNI-C.DK>
Subject:      XPL program and the list as a manual
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

ON A PARTICULAR XPL-SYNTAX PROBLEM PLUS ON-LINE NOTABENE
LIST MANUAL.

THE XPL-PROGRAM
Could any XPL-prof please read and comment on the fol-
lowing small program to improve on its performance? Fur-
thermore, I wonder how far have the program functions
been changed in NB4 (with new keyboard functions), and
where can we read about it at the present stage of docu-
mentation?
The specific problem is this: One small set of utilities
I use every night when doing my NB-List homework after
downloading is to run first a program that stips all the
reciever bla-bla down to the bare minimum of date,
sender and subject. I then run a second program to
highlight the subject part (for easier reading, and for
possible retrieval of subjects for indexing and the
like). It presently runs as follows:
  TF <<lbCon1>>BC se \Subject:      \XC
  <<if<<er>>>><<ex>><<ei>>GT DF LE DF M2 XD<<glCon1>>
What is wrong with the syntax? Its problem is that it
does not bold-face just the particular line but the
whole file.

ON DOCUMENTATION
I have good results on using the list as a manual, and
expect that I will have useful on-line Orbis information
from all you folks in this way. I would, however, be
even happier if folks of the caliber like Itamar etc
produced such readily available disks...




































































































Nicolai Winther-Nielsen
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 12:42:51 -0600
From:         Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>
Subject: Re: DMP Print Spooler
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Robert:
	I tried spooling to expanded, to extended, to both, to both
and to the Ram disk (F:), to expanded and to Ram Disk, but I havn't tried
_only_ to Ram Disk.  I'll try loading it first (before going into DV), and
if that doesn't work I'll try it outside of DV, only spooling to RAM disk,
and see what happens.  I'm also looking into FLASH, but it's expensive
($70) and the spooler is extra (another $70, but with something off if
you get both).

--Ken Salzberg
ksalzber@hamline.edu
From: pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Paul J. Bodin)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
Subject: Re: ORBIS: error opening...
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:06:22 GMT
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Joel Lidov writes:

> I reported earlier that ORBIS wouldn't open a databasis in the session
> after I created it, but gave the "error opening file:  .DAT" message.
> I tried Peter Binkley's suggestion of reducing the name of my database,
> but to no avail (I used 5 characters).  Any other suggestions welcome.

When you attempt to open the database, have you already used the
"Pick" option to activate the database you are trying to open?

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
From: pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Paul J. Bodin)
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Subject: Re: ORBIS: error opening...
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:45:26 GMT
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Another question, then, for Joel Lidov in regard to his Orbis
problem...

Joel, did you do the indexing while logged on to the /NB4 program
directory?  I have found that indexing doesn't work reliably for me
unless I first change to the /NB4 directory.  Others have reported
that this is not necessary on their setups, but I find that it is
imperative on mine.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 23:38:49 EST
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ctrl-= and CUSTOMIZATION
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For Sarah Higley--

"General Failure" is a DOS message that generally occurs when you try
to read from or write to a disk that is corrupted, unformatted or
improperly formatted for the version of DOS that you are using.  Other
things can cause it too, but a bad diskette is the most likely source.
A bad drive might cause it, too.

___________________________________________________________________________
Paul J. Bodin                         Internet: pjb3@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Union Theological Seminary               smail: 435-52nd Street
(718) 439-3549                                  Brooklyn, NY 11220
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:49:20 EST
From:         Robert Braham <RMB@CUNYVMS1.BITNET>
Subject:      NBI Prices
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

It's been so long since most of us
paid for our stuff (I wonder what the compound
interest came out to), perhaps some of you
will find this price list useful, if only to
have something in hand when other people express
interest (amazement, disgust, etc.).

Here are the prices as of today, Nov.11
NBI local phone # (212) 334-0445

There are two sets of prices whether person is "academic"
(faculty and student) or normal; all prices follow.

*No academic discount on upgrades*
Upgrade (always includes Orbis) from NB3 to NB4:    $129
Upgrade from NB3 and sls to NB4, Orbis, and Lingua: $229
---Add $15 shipping for all _upgrade_ packages---
---NB:Lingua will only work with NB4---

*New packages with academic discount*
NB4:                       $179
NB4, Orbis:                $259
NB4, *no* orbis, Lingua:   $299
Lingua alone:              $169
NB4, Orbis, Lingua:        $378

*New packages without academic discount*
NB4:                        $449
NB4 and Orbis:              $648
Lingua alone:               $299
NB4, *no* Orbis, Lingua:    $748
NB4, Orbis, Lingua:         $947

Dictionaries (Spellcheckers)@$69
(No academic discounts on dictionaries)
---Shipping costs included on new packages---

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 92 09:45:37 GMT
From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: dot matrix Printers
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
              92 11:39 am

Kenneth Salzberg wrote........
>
>
> I'm going to have to retire the 7 pin panasonic 1080 I currently have
> connected to my home computer, now that I've got Lingua and have seen
> the laser output (with the _non-spooling_ help of DMP).  All I can
> probably afford is another dot matrix (one of the 24 pin jobs, I assume).
> Can any of you give advice and experence with lingua output from any
> dot printer?  Any I should avoid?  Any going on sale soon? (or should
> I hold out until I can afford the HPIII that ought to be "dirt cheap"
> now that they've released the HPIV?)  Any and all help would be most
> appreciated.
>
> --Ken Salzberg
> ksalzber@hamline.edu
>

Ken,

Look at the bubble-jets...?
 ---------------
Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:13:14 EST
From:         HOLSCHUH@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Toshiba 321 driver

Here is a printer driver problem that the good folks at NBI have not (yet?)
been able to overcome. Perhaps someone on the list can give it a try. I
should admit, however, that I am not a programmer even for hobby purposes,
and understand only half the vocabulary used on this list (but I do know
something about apples, trees, birds, and other critters; the squirrels
in front of the window above the monitor screen are very busy these days).

Now then: in NB4, Toshiba 321 printouts show a number of additional blank
lines at the top of each page, with the ssame number missing at the bottom.
In effect, there is a double top margin, and no bottom margin. This was not the
case in NB3, incl. NB3.1, except when I used MLA style (the only canned
style I use).
With MLA style mss. I manually adjusted the platen. That was fine for longer
 text
(sorry) texts, but will not do for one-page office memos, because you lose a
blank sheet with every printout.
The wonderful Rebecca says that NB4 requires the printhead to be placed in the
 top
(oops) left-hand corner of the sheet before printing, and then advances the
necessary number of lines before starting to print. However, such an
arrangement is impossible for printers which hold the paper to the platen
at a point higher than the printhead. It is hard to believe that NB4
excludes this sizable family of office workhorses. NB printer drivers must
include an override of the automatic advance in such cases.
In case anybody suspects that the printer itself can be adjusted: it is
already set to the lowest possible advance, and NB overrrides printer
already set to the lowest possible advance, and NB overrrides printer
settings anyway. Any ideas?
Albrecht Holschuh, Indiana University, Holschuh@IUBACS, Holschuh@ucs.indiana.edu
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 92 16:35:00 MDT
From:         DIECKER@UNMB.BITNET
Subject:      CTRL+ALT+ESC
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

By odd coincidence, I just found out last night (about 8:30 p m east coast
time) about the magical CTRL+ALT+ESC sequence, which I knew nothing about
before.

The call was from the man himself, Steve Siebert, which impressed me a bit.
I figure if he's spending Saturday night in mid-town Manhattan (or wherever
NBI's offices are) making tech support calls, that says something good
about their trying to take care of business.

But I digress. I had called NBI on Friday in high dudgeon because when I
tried to pop up a TSR (in this case the AP Stylebook), Nota Bene destroyed
the stylebook screen, its own, then froze. Solid. Had to reboot.

I'd never had that problem from within 3.X, so my next physical motion was
to start punching NBI's number on the phone. The reception said that Michael,
who has been my main contact there since 4.0 came out and has been
unfailingly helpful, was on another line, as was everyone else (read
"receptionist" for "reception" above).

She also asked if someone could call me on the weekend. In my mood of the
moment, I thought, "What a cute PR ploy. Sure they're going to call me
on the weekend." But I told her yes.

Damned if they didn't.

Well, it turns out, if I understood what Steve said correctly, that the
CTRL+ALT+ESC sequence causes NB to store its screen fonts and drop into
a DOS equivalent default. Then one can call up a TSR or go to another
program or whatever and NB won't interfere with it. When you're finished
using the other program, pressing CTRL+ESC signals NB to restore its
fonts.

After I'd called NBI on Friday, I'd looked in the documentation to see if
I could find anything about TSR stuff and couldn't. I mentioned this to
Steve and he said it was in the Lingua documentation but not in the
documentation for the basic program. He allowed as to how, since practically
everyone uses some TSR's or other and switches between programs, that
maybe they should have put it in the basic documentatin as well.

He also suggested putting the CTRL+ALT+ESC and CTRL+ESC secquenses on the
TSR hotkey sequence. I haven't taken the time yet to think about how to
actually do that.

At any rate, I hope this helps some of the rest of you.

Jimmy C Diecker
Latin American Institute
University of New Mexico-Albuquerque
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:47:00 EDT
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From:         Michael Obuchowski <MICHALO@NEWSCHOOL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: How about meeting at the MLA convention?
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>
> >My confirmation of accommodation at the MLA in New York has just arrived.
> >I assume that some of you will be going to the Big Apple for the
> >convention; would you like to try to meet up at some point for drinks or
> >dinner?
>
> >Leon Litvack
>
> Could you
> a)post the dates of the meeting so that
> b)you could sneak me past the guards so that I, non-MLA-meeting-goer, could
> c)join you, since I live here?

and
  b')you could sneak me past the guards so that I, non-MLA-meeting-
     goer, could
  c')join you, since I live here?
                                    Michael




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  | Michael Obuchowski                                                   |
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 92 19:14:38 MST
From:         arippin@ACS.UCALGARY.CA
Subject:      Re: Is this... [now Default Symbol Set]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
              at

Regarding making the default symbol set "stick" in NB-Lingua:  I
have discovered -- although it may be coincidence since I have
not checked this extensively -- that I needed to make sure that
the symbol sets chosen under the Pick default pool were the same
as in Build new pool.  Playing with the New Pool fonts would
work while still in that session but would not be there when I
returned to a new session.


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Andrew Rippin
Religious Studies, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Phone: 403-220-5886               email: ARippin @ acs.ucalgary.ca
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:00:00 CST
From:         Michael Ossar <MLO@KSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Ibid problems
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene

I have three Ibid problems evidently introduced by moving the database from my
office to my home machine.  First, one book exists as two records that both
have the same record number in the nbbib002.dat file.  Second, three entries
are duplicated, but the duplicates have different record numbers from the
originals and do not show up when I browse the db.  I tried accessing them
via lookup, planning to delete the duplicates, but lookup did not find them.
Can I in both these  instances just edit the nbbib002.dat file, remove the
offending entries, and store it?  Do I then have to use "reindex" or "update"
or "maintain" on the utility menu?  One other record displays certain fields
twice when I access it.  The problem appears to be a missing raised dot at the
very end of the record, after the last field that I added to the template.
Can I simply put this dot back in by editing the *.dat file?   Must I then
reindex, etc.?
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 12:19:02 EST
From:         "Gerald W. Schlabach" <GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bug reports
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              6 Nov 92 17:58:09 IST from <JASPER@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU>

On Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:58:09 IST Michael J. said:
>To all the (many) folks who have reported bugs/problems/inconsistencies
>to this list:  I hope you all are periodically reporting same bugs
>to NBI. Complaining to each other is gratifying, but the product won't
>change unless they're notified. It is also likely that the attention given
>to any particular problem will be in proportion to the number of people
>who scream about it-squeeky wheels and all that. So compile your complaints
>and mail 'em off to NBI. Please.

Just keep complaining about ORBIS being incomplete, while you're at it,
so that in doing its "technical triage" on fonts and printers and the like,
its work isn't all tactics and no strategy -- i.e. the overal strategy of
integrating research from notetaking to final presentation.  Pa-lease.

Gerald W. Schlabach           |     Item bellum nullum argumentum est
University of Notre Dame      |     pro veritate fidei Christianae.
Schlabach.1@nd.edu            |          --Francisco de Vitoria, 1539
From: GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET (Gerald W. Schlabach)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notabene
Subject: Inserting IBID citations into footnotes
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:25:21 GMT
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All of a sudden I can't get IBID to insert data from an IBID record into
my open footnote deltas.  I get the x6 ibid delta after it, but nothing
inside.  Has anyone had this experience?

BTW, I'm still running NB 3.1.  Maybe that's the problem -- NB is mad at
me for erasing NB 4 in frustration!  Come to think of it, that might not
be a joke.  The erasure of NB 4 may have left some files in my Ibid
directory....

Really BTW: I've come around to Empire apples, after praising Jonathans
a few months ago.  What, me an Imperialist?

Gerald W. Schlabach           |     Item bellum nullum argumentum est
University of Notre Dame      |     pro veritate fidei Christianae.
Schlabach.1@nd.edu            |          --Francisco de Vitoria, 1539
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From: INNWN@VM2.UNI-C.DK (Nicolai Winther-Nielsen)
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Subject: Re: Nicolai's XPL
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:29:29 GMT
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Dear Takala:
I feel a little embarased, because all of a sudden it came to work, just as you
 promised and I expected, because there was no logical mistake.
However, before something odd was going on, and I guess it has to do with the H
ebrew character set being activated from the day before. At any rate it put a L
A4 code after the defined line and then just bolded the rest. The remedy seemed
 to do a CTRL+E command. (Placing the XD before M2 was counterintuitive, and of
 no help; however XD instead of YD worked fine).
Thanks for your assistance and patience; hopefully you can use the result.
Nicolai
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