HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cg894@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Lee Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Rolex 24 teams?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:23:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Does anyone have an updated list of teams registered for the
Rolex 24 hours of Daytona this weekend?  Please post or E-Mail
if you do.  
 
I know of these:
1 MOMO-sponsored Nissan 
1 966 open-cockpit GTP
1 Brumo's 962
2 Toyotas
2 Jags
2 Supreme Nissan 300zx's
2 or 3 Rocketsports Olsmobile Supremes
2 or 3 Roush Mustang Supremes
1 GTU 240SX 
2 Team Argentina GTU's
1 Corvette ZR1
 
2 or 3 Scandia Lights
1 or 2 Comtech Lights
1 Motorola-sponsored Spice Light
 
Can anyone confirm/deny these entries?  Can anyone add to this
list?  Please post or E-Mail to me.    
 
Thanks in advance.
-- 
Brian Wilson (not from the Beach Boys)          ROLL TIDE!
 
"How come two wrongs don't make a right, yet three lefts do?"
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: racing and sports physiology
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:58:18 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Ted Toth (tedx@tivoli.com) wrote:
> I remember a F1 race last year where Fittipaldi wore a heart monitor. While racing his heart rate was 180 I don't remember what it was during a pit stop.

The definitive study of this was carried out by some French doctors in '81;
they wired Gilles Villeneuve and Didier Pironi (before their disagreement)
up to heart monitors... Gilles  heart never went above 150 or so, Didier was 
around (if not over) 200 on many occasions. The details are all in Donaldson's 
excellent biography of Villeneuve. 

pete
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From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Rahal/Phoenix correction
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:14:59 GMT
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <C15v00.BHv@ncube.com> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
>You may now come back up to the front of the room and try again.  Looks
>like the real culprit was 'Winners', as they had their year wrong.

O boy o boy!  What do I win!  What do I win!

>Good job, folks.  Maybe rec.autos.sport should produce its own weekly
>tv series!

You what!  Gee, I dunno ... I don't think that a racing show where the
commentator just types everything at the viewers would work...

But then again, maybe so -- for all those who've spent too long around
racing engines while not wearing earplugs ...

I guess you can consider that a way to reach a bigger audience in
broadcasting, Bob!

WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We've been well stupid.

In 1988, Bobby Rahal drove for Truesports -- sponsored by Budweiser.
How come none of you who watched the `Winners' show ever questioned
that their alleged 1988 clip apparently had him driving for Maury
Kraines -- sponsored by Kraco, which is what he had in 1989?

Perhaps we should hold off on the TV deal, Bob ...


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From: lallo@stsci.edu (Matthew D. Lallo   (410)338-4577)
Subject: Re: Donnelly's return
Reply-To: lallo@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:34:34 GMT

In article 19897@maths.tcd.ie, madmax@maths.tcd.ie (Mark Taylor) writes:

> (The first car he drove after the accident was an automatic Mercedes)

On a facetious note, that fact has probably got nothing to do with his 
handicap. I think a big automatic Mercedes is the default mode of street 
transportation for most F1 drivers ironically enough.

Matt
From: mjackson.wbst147@xerox.com (Mark Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1: No Williams in 93? (or, oops!)
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:01:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectrum.1993Jan26.220106.20448
Reply-To: mjackson.wbst147@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY

In article 17631@stsci.edu, lallo@stsci.edu (Matthew D. Lallo   (410)338-4577) writes:

> One interesting tidbit you did have though is the naming of the other holdout team
> with Benetton. You claim it is Minardi. That's interesting. We've been guessing who
> it could be with McLaren as prime suspect. How did you get the info that it was Minardi?
> How confident are you of that fact?

As I posted not quite 48 hours ago, FOSA reports that Benetton and
Minardi have made public statements to the effect that they voted
against permitting Williams' late entry; a third team is believed to
have done so as well.

Propagation Delays Are Real. . .

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From: crisar@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl (Anton van Rosmalen)
Subject: Re: Williams in strife
Organization: CRI, institute for telecommunication and computerservices.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:29:17 GMT

In article <frank.38.727766822@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au> frank@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (Frank Savaglio) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.151307.1@economics.adelaide.edu.au> ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:
>>From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
>>Subject: Williams in strife
>>Date: 22 Jan 93 15:13:07 ACST
>
>>Hey guys, I just heard that Williams are in trouble for lodging their racing
>>application late!!  Apparently they have to get permission from all the other
>>teams if they want to join the circus and a couple of them have held out,
>>saying they want Williams advantage in technology neutralised before they
>>agree!
>
>>Anyone else heard anything?
>
>A team the size of and with the resources of Williams doing something like 
>that ??????
>
>Man if there is any truth here it would be unbelievable
>>> It is true , <<<
>>> Apparently Benetton is using tactics , to obtain concessions
>>> from Williams . one is the introduction of a pace car , to which
>>> Williams is opposed . Ferrari claims it is not one the teams 
>>> pressuring williams into certain concessions , so that leaves
>>> Mr Denis is the possible second team opposing Williams late entry.

>=====================================================================
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>
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From: cstadcb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C Isaac)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: INDY 500 SIMULATION
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:43:46 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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>Does anyone know if the Amiga version of Microprose's `World Circuit'
>recently mentioned in this thread has good mouse control?
>and does it have shifting using the keyboard?
>
>Same question for the `F1GP' mentioned by Mike Casey.  Who publishes
>that, anyway?


aren't they one and the same? Isn't `World Circuit' the same thing as
Microprose 'Formula One Grand Prix' but U.S. edition or something?
If so I don't know if it supports mouse control on the Amiga, neither
does a friend of mine who has it.


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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: PITSTOP Returns!
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:32:10 GMT

I am very pleased to be able to report today that
our weekly, two-hour motorsport-exclusive radio
talk show, PITSTOP, will return to the Oregon-
Washington airwaves on Tuesday, February 9th,
6-8pm pst.  We will be broadcasting live on
KVAN, 1550 AM located in Vancouver, Washington.

Caller lines are available from both the Oregon
and Washington sides of the Columbia River and
we're looking into gaining access to a 'bird'
in the near future which would allow us syndi-
cation outside the local area, complete with
an 800 caller line.

There is also a possibility at this time that
PITSTOP may originate from a local watering hole
nearby both the Portland Speedway and Portland
International Raceway on a permanent basis.

Planned for the inaugural show are live, on-the-
scene reports from Daytona International Speedway
by both Fred and Craig Armstrong.  As I've yet
to hear if any stations in the local area will
be carrying the MRN network, these *may* be the
only authoritative reports coming into the area
during Speedweeks.

Obviously, I'm pumped.  Now, where did those
sponsors go?

bob

Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: narchamb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas D Archambeault)
Subject: RE: INDY 500 SIMULATION
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:43:14 GMT


Hey all,

I've never played INDY or World Circuit, but last week I played
a game at my local video arcade called VirtuaRacing that blew
my socks off.  I'm not one to go squandering my hard earned money
on arcade games, but this looked too good to pass up.

The machine is bright red and shaped very much like an F1 car.  It
has an adjustable F1 style seat that can be positioned for best pedal
reach.  On the floor are a brake pedal and accelerator with paddles
behind the steering wheel to operate the semi-auto gearbox!  Behind
the seat (at head level) are stereo speakers that provide some of the
most realistic sounds I've heard from a video game, and built into the
seat are hydraulic rams that press against your sides and back to
simulate braking and cornering forces.  Also, servos in the steering
wheel resist your inputs and convey bumps in the course and impacts
with curbs.

The screen seems miles wide, but I'd guess it must be more like 30"x30"
(that's a rough guess as I didn't measure it).  The graphics of course
are fantastic providing very realistic feedback.  You can select from
four views: cockpit, follow, overhead, and Goodyear blimp modes.  Each
of the three courses (beginner, intermediate, expert) can be driven with
either auto or semi-auto gearbox.  These courses feature lots of inter-
esting features, long straights, off-camber, late-apex, and decreasing
radius turns, bridges, tunnels, even a simulated pit stop complete with
virtual pit crew!

The whole thing is very intense, but at $1.00/play it's not something
I can afford to make a habit of.  If you get a chance I definitely
recommend playing at least once.

Sorry, didn't mean to run off at the fingers.


Nick

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I'm not quite sure whose opinions these are; I *think* they're mine...
From: jimd@pequod.gvg.tek.com (Jim Delwiche)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Honda will enter the IndyCar
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:25:57 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1993Jan15.173050.23213@citec.oz.au> sgccgdc@citec.oz.au (Greg Clough) writes:
>
>I certainly don't think that titanium is 'unobtainable' do you?  We use it
>in a couple of places in our race engines (mainly valve train) so I would
>class it as 'obtainable'.  Expensive, but obtainable ...
>

As I understand it, a large percentage of the world's titanium is
found in Russia.  So much of it, in fact, that our old friends the
USSR used titanium to make the hulls of their nuclear subs, which gave
them a significant strategic advantage.  Now that Russia is undergoing
a transformation to a market economy, this Russian titanium is
starting to make it's way into the west.  Titanium bicycle frames,
which used to be in the hyper-exotic category, are becoming much more
affordable.  Perhaps titanium will become common in racing (or even
street) engines soon.

Jim
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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: racing and sports physiology
Keywords: blood sweat tears
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:57:39 GMT

In article <8616@tivoli.UUCP> tedx@tivoli.com (Ted Toth) writes:
>I remember a F1 race last year where Fittipaldi wore a heart monitor. While racing his heart rate was 180 I don't remember what it was during a pit stop.

...probably higher, as this is one point of time in a race where
the driver is not in control of his own destiny.

Of course, the other big assets that drivers posess is incredible
reflexes and eyesight.  Now, two related stories I remember along
these lines are (and I really couldn
't say if these are just b.s. or really true):

- Dale Earnhardt's peripheral vision is so great he can see his earlobes

- During some study of athletes, racing drivers were the only ones who
could read the label of a record spinning on the turntable (speed
unknown).

Unrelated - is it really true that Bud Moore built the motor in Geoff
Bodine's breakthru, hi-tech bobsled?  Seriously, this is a pretty 
fascinating story and I'd like to see a technical article and decent
photos on it.

bob
From: D.A.Kinloch@newcastle.ac.uk (David Kinloch)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Williams fail to register!!!!
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:24:26 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

dave budd (zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan22.132329.24866@aber.ac.uk> per@aber.ac.uk (Peter David Roberts) writes:
: 
: >Shock news of the week may well go to the fact that Williams are not
: >on the list of official entries for this seasons championship!!
: >The news carried by Ceefax this morning (22nd) suggests that the team 
: >failed to get their papers in in time to count.
: 
: Williams claim that as the deadline was a Sunday, the rules quite clearly 
: state that they're allowed to file their entry on the Monday, which they did.
: They're threatening FISA with legal action now.
: 
: 

I read somewhere that this is an E.C. regulation. If a deadline for anything
is a Sunday, you're allowed until Monday. So, there's no problem for Williams.

Anyone know any more about this?

David Kinloch
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From: marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti)
Subject: Re: F1 Historical Question
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:26:10 GMT

James Montebello wrote:
|> I've been reading Doug Nye's great 2nd edition of his History of the
|> Grand Prix Car and I've noticed that, around 1974, privateers like Rob
|> Walker simply vanished from competition. No one seemed to buy
|> "customer" or "used" F1 cars from the big teams and run them themselves
|> anymore.

Actually, I think Rob Walker's last season as an "independent"
entrant was 1970, when he fielded a Lotus-Ford 49C for Graham Hill
for most of the season.  (I believe a Lotus-Ford 72 was entered
at Monza for the first time, but didn't compete after Jochen Rindt's
tragic death at the wheel of a works Lotus 72 in practice.  I am
sure Graham Hill raced a Rob Walker 72 at the 1970 US GP -- which
was one by Emerson Fittipaldi in a works 72 in his fourth ever GP.)

For 1971, Rob Walker teamed up with John Surtees, taking his
Brook Bond OXO sponsorship and the dark blue livery of his cars
to the Surtees-Ford TS7 driven by Big John.

Jo Siffert's 1968 win at the British GP in Brands at the wheel
of Rob's Lotus-Ford 49 may have been the last GP victory by
a "privateer".

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From: andyw@meaddata.com (Andy Welter)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Driver Info wanted
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:06:30 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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In article G9s@ncube.com, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
>Full Time Racing has announced a new teammate
>for Don Walker this season in the Firehawk
>Series, but we don't know much about him and
>I'm poking around here to see if anyone can
>help me out.
>
>The driver is Jerry Nadeau, a 23 year old.
>He won the Big Scholorship Runoff which
>provided him with a full-time ride in the
>Barber-Saab Series.
>
>Thanks,
>Bob (a Hudson in a Cadillac world)
>

Is Jerry a full teammate, or is he just renting a ride?  Bob, was it
you that said Full Time racing will be running Talons this year?

A happy Talon TSi owner wants to know!


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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Wanted: IMSA Supercar Series Info
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:29:27 GMT

In article <winders-210193103144@macwinders.support.apple.com> winders@aux.support.apple.com (Scott Winders) writes:
>Does anyone out there know or have access to the IMSA Supercar Series
>schedule?  If so, would you either post the information or email it to me.
>

Whoops - posted it here a couple of weeks ago but don't have it
with me now.

Other news regarding Supercars in NSSN this week include the fact
that 14 cars have now signed on to run the entire season.  Rick
Shay and his Pontiac Formula Firehawk, David Donohue in a BMW M-5
and Hurley Haywood again in a Porsche 911 Turbo.  Also, one of my
informants mentioned to me that Lotus *may* be upping its entry
count from 4, as they had for the most part last year, to SIX!
Defending champ Doc Bundy will be back to defend with Lotus.

Looking good....

bob
From: holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu (michael andrew holthouse)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Driver Height (was: Re: Question)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 11:55:36 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
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In article <1k913gINN6ir@bigboote.WPI.EDU> giants@wpi.WPI.EDU (J Scott Kearney) writes:

>      Of course we all know how tiny Prost is, but what are some of the 
>heights of F1/Indy pilots today. (or should I have written Indy/F1...haha)
>      I'd like to here from any racers out there who may have had a problem
>with their height, as well as anyone with an opinion.

>Scott Kearney

	Well, I recently got Bobby Rahal's autograph and I can tell you
	that is very tall. I am 6'1" and he is at least that tall, seemed
	even taller...

	...and we all know how HIS hieght affected his season! :)

	-Mike.
	 (holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: jblewis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John B Lewis)
Subject: Schedule for Firestone Firehawk
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:24:30 GMT

I need to know the 1993 Firestone Firehawk Series Schedule.  Does Anyone out 
there have it?  Thanks in advance!!

-J.B.Lewis
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From: educ074@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Villeneuve,Atlantics
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:16:12 GMT

The name Villeneuve will be seen in the Players Atlantic series this year.The
Two car team with sponsership from Players will field a pair of new Ralt
RT40's,The other driver will be Claude Bourbonnais.Jacques Jr will also contest
Japanese F3 races where he was last years champion.The contract is reportedly
for a high six figure sum?
The pair will race for Forsythe/Green racing,as in ex indy cars.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: wilson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (David Wilson)
Subject: Re: Team Tyrrell's successes (Was: F1 Historical Question)
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:27:06 GMT

In article <1jnetcINNalt@gossip.pyramid.com> danjones@pyramid.COM (Dan Jones) writes:
>...
>In '71 Tyrrell ran in his first full season as a constructor.  He won the constructor's
>championship and Stewart won the driver's championship.  In '72 and '73, Tyrrell
>finished 2nd in the constructors and Stewart finished 2nd and 1st in the driver's
>championship.
>...

Both the constructors and drivers championships in his first full season
as a construcor.  Not too shabby!  Has any other entrant won either, or
both, of the championships in their first year?

Dave Wilson

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From: derek@au-bon-pain.lcs.mit.edu (Derek Chiou)
Subject: WANTED: Porsche 944 in Boston area
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science, Cambridge, Mass.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:31:23 GMT


WANTED -- 1985.5 to 1986 Porsche 944 in Boston/adjacent Massachusetts
area.  Black exterior.  No rust.  Good interior and mechanical
condition.  Prefer less than 85k miles.  Prefer Porsche enthusiast
with records.  

Posting for a friend.  Please call William at 617-720-4965 or you can
write me here and I'll tell him.
From: boubez@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu (Toufic Boubez)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Hostility to Williams? (was Re: F1 driver list)
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:47:39 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

danjones@pyramid.COM (Dan Jones) writes:
>I'd like to see Williams kept out for the first half of
>the season on this technicality, then the others might have a shot.

This is not meant as a follow-up to Dan in particular, but just because I
have seen this thought echoed in several posts already. I don't understand
the hostility to the Williams team. Don't you think they deserved to win? I
mean, it's not like they cheated. They came up with some pretty neat
technological advances, coupled with a very good driver (as much as I hate
him) and won the championship fair and square. Nobody (or at least very few
people) was yelling foul when the McLaren Honda was cleaning up. Them's the
breaks, as long as you play by the rules. Whether the rules are set up for
specator enjoyment, driver's skills, etc is a completely different issue, I
think. Do you think it would be a better championship if a team won it
because the best competitor was kept out for half the season?

>Dan Jones

toufic
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From: csroach@eng.clemson.edu (Shane Roach)
Subject: Re: F1 drivers lineup for '93
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:55:51 GMT

From article <21JAN199313423900@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, by scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY):
> 
>>McLaren:  Andretti & ? (Ford engine deal *still* not officially announced)
> 
> The Ford deal is probably just a matter of time.  I can't imagine Ron Dennis & 
> company cutting the "floorboard" out of the tub, letting Michael "pedal" 
> around the track a la Fred Flinstone yelling "Yabba Dabba Doo"....
> 
'Twould be a nice excuse to bring "Trevorsaurus" over from Newman-Haas to help
with Mikey's pit work.

Shane Roach
csroach@eng.clemson.edu



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