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From: arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Portable SW recommendations around $200
Date: 11 Nov 92 07:02:10 CST
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Nov10.171559.4296@linus.mitre.org>, 
m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:

> sofjan mustopoh writes:
>>> what portable SW would you recommend in the $200 price range
> 
>>     Start from sony sw7600  +- $220
>>                panasonic rf-b65 +- $220
>>                          rf-b45 +- $170  no ssb
>>                sangean   at-803a +- $180
>>                          at-808  +- $190 no ssb
>>                          at-818  +- $220 
> 

In the recent Monitoring Times (Oct 92) there is a mention of a new
Sangean model that will be coming out soon.  It's supposed to be
similar to the ATS-808 but at about half the price, and smaller.
If the performance really is similar to the 808, this would be an
outstanding value for the money (even though the RFB65 and Sangean's 
own ATS-803A are superior in an absolute sense). 

Could be worth the wait...
________________________________________________________________________
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Assistant Professor                   |  University of Kansas 
arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu             |  Lawrence, KS  66045  
"And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing what 
the dictionary says it means, you go to jail. No exceptions."
-- David Jones @ Megatest Corporation
From: aksurf@caltech.edu (Axel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Jun's electronics
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:50:28 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.215.9.51

I am posting this as a warning to other people regarding the service at a
HAM radio store in Los Angeles. This regards Jun's electronics on Sepulveda
in Culver City. 

I recently bought an AEA fax at Jun's. As I was very dissatisfied with the
package, I decided to return it. However, it was past the 10 days allowed
to get a refund. They did give me a refund, albeit only $54 of the original
$90+tax I payed.

What burns me is that the guy had the audacity of telling me he can't sell
it as new, but will only sell it as a demo. When I purchased the unit
originally, it was obvious that someone else had used it before. There were
pencil marks in the manual and the box was taped with an old piece of
masking tape. Being very tolerant I didn't go back to complain (not to
mention it wasn't worth the drive)
I returned that thing cleaner and in better condition than when I bought
it! 

Hey, I have had enough of crooks, dishonesty and poor service. I hope this
will serve as a warning to anyone. Buy only from reputable mail order
outfits. These local HAM stores are a real dissapointment.


                         Axel  
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: slush@voa3.voa.gov (Joe Gallagher)
Subject: Request for NYC freqs
Followup-To: slush@voa3.voa.gov
Organization: Voice of America: Washington, DC.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:04:41 GMT

Consider this a request for police/fire, etc. frequencies in New York City,
please.

A co-worker (without net access) is travelling to the Apple early
next week (Nov. 16), and asked me for some freqs for entertainment while
he's there.

Thanks very much in advance.  The address (in case you missed the header) is
      slush@voa3.voa.gov

Joe Gallagher  Technical Support Branch  Voice of America  Washington DC 20547
slush@voa3.VOA.GOV 	   ...uunet!voa3!slush	        or even (202) 619-3804

From my days in Top 40 rock 'n roll radio:
 "Remember, radio isn't AM and FM...it's AM and **PM**.  Think about it."
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: need station freq's in or near ham bands
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 00:07:49 CST
Reply-To: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok

tjf@beta.lanl.gov (Tom J Farish) writes:

> Hi...I have an old Realistic DX-160 which I use for Broadcast listening
> as well as peeks into the ham bands.  It uses two dials to determine
> frequency...one coarse and one fine.  You set the coarse dial to a 
> place marked on the coarse display and use the fine-tuner to get on 
> frequency.  Unfortunately, the markers on the dials are not particularly
> close to where they should be for the fine-tuning dial to accurately
> indicate frequency.  So, I use a nearby broadcast or time frequency
> to callibrate.  This works great for 80m (I use WWV at 4.0MHz) and

WWV isn't on 4.0 MHz.  The image rejection of the DX-160 must not be much
better than the DX-120 which I have.  If you double the IF (intermediate
frequency) and subtract it from 5 MHz you will get the frequency you are
actually tuned to.

                     5000
455 * 2 = 910      -  910
                   -------
                     4090 KHz or 4.09 MHz is the frequency you are
actually tuned to when you WWV on the image.

> 40m (I use CHU at 7.335 MHz).  However, I don't have good stations
> for callibrating in the bands 20m and above.  I can hear stations 
> broadcasting in there, but don't have the frequencies.  The ranges I need
> are:
> 
> 20m: 14.0 to 14.350 MHz

CHU is also on 14.67 if that helps but only 3 KW  (7.335 is 10 KW)
> 
> Note that strong stations within a few 10's of KHz of these bands
> will be close enough to get a fix.  If anyone can provide station
> ID's and frequencys clos to the above bands, I will post a summary
> of them.  Thanks!

If you build a crystal calibrator that would help.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Subject: Re: need station freq's in or near ham bands
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:10:31 GMT

In article <q8ZsTB1w165w@ricksys.lonestar.org> rick@ricksys.lonestar.org writes:
>tjf@beta.lanl.gov (Tom J Farish) writes:
>
>> close to where they should be for the fine-tuning dial to accurately
>> indicate frequency.  So, I use a nearby broadcast or time frequency
>> to callibrate.  This works great for 80m (I use WWV at 4.0MHz) and
>
>WWV isn't on 4.0 MHz.  The image rejection of the DX-160 must not be much
>better than the DX-120 which I have.  If you double the IF (intermediate
>frequency) and subtract it from 5 MHz you will get the frequency you are
>actually tuned to.

Of course Tom *could* have made a simple typo......
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From: GL8574@ACSPR1.ACS.BROCKPORT.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: high bands and English dialects
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:11:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns.9211062109.AA04048
Reply-To: GL8574@ACSPR1.ACS.BROCKPORT.EDU
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

THIS IS A MULTIPLE RESPONSE POSTING.

"(Axel)" <aksurf@CALTECH.EDU> writes:

>Here's a strange logging: I picked up somebody's phone conversation on
>23.486 MHz. That was late at night, when this band ought to be dead. I was
>wondering if anyone knows of any cordless phones which operate at this
>frequency?

I don't know about that frequency per se, however, I have myself got an
ancient cordless phone that uses 49.860 in the FM mode from the handset to the
base, and then uses 26.996 in the AM mode from the base to the handset.  As it
turns out, this latter channel is CB channel 5.  Needless to say, this phone
gets very little use... although it does have, I have found, quite a bit of
range, as I have carried on so interesting non-phone conversations on it :-)

>I also managed to pick up some stuff late at night in the upper frequencies
>as well. This includes Radio Australia on 15.365 MHz and Deutsche Wele on
>11.965 MHz. For being late at night (11pm) I find that a bit unusual. As a
>rule, I don't usually get anything significant above 10 MHz at night.

I thought it odd when I picked up Radio Australia on a high frequency one
night last winter-- I think it was somewhere around 25 MHz and around 0500
UTC... and that was before I got a decent radio!  (I was using a Realistic
DX-350... you know, the little 12-bander?)

>Has anyone in California have any success with picking up domestic stations
>in the tropical bands (60 m, 80m). I pick up real faint stuff, barely
>audible, and that's it. Would an antenna tuner and a pre-amp improve my
>reception on those bands?

Isn't the tropical band more like 160 and 180m?  Just checking.

"(Mr. Lyn R. Kennedy)" <lrk@K5QWB.LONESTAR.ORG> writes:

>One other observation: I noticed while in Europe that there is a
>special form of the language that I call 'rock-music English'. It's
>slightly different from the way songs are done in the U.S. and may
>account for the small number of groups popular in both America and
>Europe.

Mostly out of curiosity, I am wondering which particular songs are they?  I am
kind of curious what the characteristics are of this particular dialect.

73,
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"When  I  was  your age, we didn't have all these fancy radios with neat little
 dials  and  knobs and buttons and flashing lights.  We had to have grandma sit
 in  the  corner  and  SING!  And she couldn't even sing well.  AND WE LIKED IT
 THAT WAY!"                            -Old Man Stenger
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: New Office a Total Radio Bummer
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:00:53 GMT

Andrew Mullhaupt writes:
>  ...high tech office... steel frame building... pathological radio trap

I work in the same sort of building.  I've had some success taping a thin 
wire to the window around the frame.  It's not great, but I do get some of the 
stronger stations.  In fact, the old Zenith Trans-Oceanic (now *there*
was a radio)  came standard with a "wave magnet" antenna; some sort of
loop antenna stored in the back of the radio that attached to a window 
with suction cups.  It was intended for use on trains and ships where similar
shielding takes place.  Good luck...

************************
* These are my opinions only.*
************************
From: hank@violet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Shack DX390
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:03:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu
Originator: hank@violet.berkeley.edu

I'm thinking of buying a radio shack DX390 for casual short wave
and amateur band browsing and listening.  The going price is $219.
Any thoughts about this radio?  Could I do better for the money?
Thanks.

Henry

-- 
H. Miller
hank@violet.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: gst@chinet.chi.il.us (George S. Thurman)
Subject: KCBI RETURNS: UPDATE
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:11:38 GMT

I posted a message a week ago saying the KCBI Dallas would return
to the air around Nov-1.  As I now understand it, they have run into
problems getting thier transmitter back on the air, since the thing
has just been sitting there for several years out in the country 
collecting dust.  It should be anytime now.  I will keep you up-to-date.
-- 
                           George S. Thurman
             gst@chinet.chi.il.us    Voicemail: 312-509-6308
                US Snail: POB 1538, Chicago, IL 60690-1538
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: felipe@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Matteo Cardin)
Subject: Unidentified RTTY station
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:35:30 GMT

Dear netters, yesterday (November 11th) I've received for only few
minutes a RTTY station 50 baud 425 HZ shift sending Weather info
in SYNOP code about IRAN on 17553KHz from 1005Z to 1009Z.
Anyone can help me to identificate it?

Many thanks in advance.
Please e-mail to  felipe@sabrina.dei.unipd.it or post a news

Matteo Cardin
   
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      /  \  I R - Italian Radiolistener Association
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:54:33 MET
Reply-To:     "(Alfredo Cotroneo)" <A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT>
From:         "(Alfredo Cotroneo)" <A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT>
Subject:      Solar Forecasts and HF propagation (software)
              Nov 6, 92 11:40 am

Paul J. Dujmich writes :
>
>Excuse my ignorance,but can someone tell me what this solar predict
>data is good for. I'm fully aware of the effect of sun spot activity
>upon the E-layer, and how it affects HF skip distances. But, how do you
>use this detailed data? Is there a computer program available that
>you feed it into? You're either going to hear a station or you're not.
>I don't quite see how this predict data makes short wave listening, or
>communicating on Ham Radio any more effective. Does anyone actually
>use this data? A daily synoposis of solar activity is already
>available on WWV for those who have a burning desire to obtain it.
>Like I said....Please excuse my ignorance.

It would be nice to have someone develop this program, Paul. I had a
look at the software that the same source of the daily despatches makes
available (that's some sort of freeware/shareware, you have to pay if
you use it), but that is not very useful to know how propagation would
be in a particular band or from/to a particular area. Or at least IT IS
NOT STRAIGHT AND EASY enough.
You probably have better to get some sort of 'MINIMUF' software, and use
the solar reports to input the data on solar spots for the MINIMUF
program.

What I would really look forward to is a programme that based on the
data isssued by the Solar Terrestrial Despatch, that would indicate which
bands are open at any particular moment and from/to any location in the
world.
Any idea, or suggestion?

Alfredo, Milano, Italy

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From: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Radio Shack DX390
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:45:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, little@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Littlejohn Tim) says:


>I have a question for the antenna experts!  Radio Shack advertises a 
>small portable "clip on" antenna extension.  Does anyone have experience
>with this and is it likely to help me much with receiving weaker 
>transmissions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Tim

 I have the antenna you mention above, it really amounts to nothing
more than a clip on longwire. A long peice of wire with an aligator clip
is essentialy the same thing, the RS version is better to look at but
performs the same.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: tlc20700@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas L. Carney)
Subject: Re: New American Made SHORTWAVE available
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:13:21 GMT

andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt) writes:

>In article <Sreye-qH3@lopez.marquette.MI.US> flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack) writes:

			 [Lots of stuff deleted...]


>I might not go that far, but it isn't high up on my list of things to have
>in a receiver. I'm willing to consider radios which have them if they've
>been done right, but this is not a $1.00 problem.

Putting in an RF gain control is a NOT putting a pot in into the RF
circuit....generally the pot controls the bias on the AGC voltage...
crank down the RF gain and you increase the AGC, thereby reducing the
gain of the front end...it is not a $1.00 problem...

>>Is anyone going to buy the GROVE receiver, or the AMERICAN ELECTROLA?

I won't buy the Grove receiver for one BIG reason...so little bang
for the buck.  For that price, and no interference reducing controls,
sorry...I won't buy the ICOM R-72 for the same reason....  For that 
price, I'll keep my modified FRG-7700.....  ten years old and still
crankin'...


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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:22:07 PST
Reply-To:     "Scott D. Currie" <SCURRIE@LSAVMIC1.VNET.IBM.COM>
From:         "Scott D. Currie" <SCURRIE@LSAVMIC1.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Radio Shack performance

Actually, according to the folks at Passport, the Panasonic models rate
just below the Sangean models in RF sensitivity, but I suspect that in
that price range they are probably all very close.
I heard a rumor (from a Panasonic manager) that the RBF-45 has been
discontinued and the 65 may go also.  I think maybe Panasonic is getting
out of the SWL business.  Anyone else hear that???

-SCURRIE-
From: aksurf@caltech.edu (Axel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Cordless phone on 23.846
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:30:51 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.215.9.51

Here's a strange logging: I picked up somebody's phone conversation on
23.486 MHz. That was late at night, when this band ought to be dead. I was
wondering if anyone knows of any cordless phones which operate at this
frequency?

I also managed to pick up some stuff late at night in the upper frequencies
as well. This includes Radio Australia on 15.365 MHz and Deutsche Wele on
11.965 MHz. For being late at night (11pm) I find that a bit unusual. As a
rule, I don't usually get anything significant above 10 MHz at night. 

Has anyone in California have any success with picking up domestic stations
in the tropical bands (60 m, 80m). I pick up real faint stuff, barely
audible, and that's it. Would an antenna tuner and a pre-amp improve my
reception on those bands?

                             

                                Axel
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:09:27 CST
From: <U21551@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Portable SW recommendations around $200
Distribution: rec.radio.shortwave

In article <TMARK.92Nov9111349@sherlock.wbst845e.xerox.com>,
tmark@wbst845e.xerox.com (Ted Markowitz) says:
>
>I know this question is going to generate a lot of heat (and hopefully
>some light!) but, what portable SW would you recommend in the $200
>price range give the following minimum requirements:
>
>        - good SW band coverage
>        - medium wave
>        - FM (possibly with stereo)
>        - digital tuning
>        - a few station presets
>
>Please post responses directly to the group.  Thanks.
>
The Radio Shack DX-440 (also known as the Sangean ATS 803A) has all of those
things, as well as SSB capability.  Many people consider this radio to be
the best in its price class.  I couldn't comment on that, since I've never
used anything else, but I can say that it's a pretty good radio that has
good sensitivity and selectivity, even with only the built-in whip antenna.

It has continuous coverage from 150 kHz - 29999 kHz, and also covers the FM
band.  On FM, you can get stereo when you use headphones.  It has digital
tuning, and you can use either a keypad, or a tuning knob.  (The biggest
complaint about this radio is the "chuffing" sound you get when you use the
knob.)  It also has 9 presets, a "scan" button, a 24-hour clock, a light for
the display, a "sleep" mode, and it can be programmed to turn itself on at
a pre-determined time.  I think you also get a few extra goodies (like an
AC adapter, and a tape out jack) if you but the Sangean version of this model.
Best of all, if you shop around, you can find it for as low as $150.

There may be better radios, but you can't screw up too badly with a DX-440.

Jim Nelson
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Thanx for handheld-receiver help, opinion on DX-440?
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:46:53 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <83184@ut-emx.uucp> rcamama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Camama) writes:
>2)  Does anyone have opinion on the Realistic DX-440.  It appears to have been
>discontinued, but I saw one being sold at a local store...

If it's in good shape and guaranteed, buy it. Best bang for the buck in
that price range. A proven performer.

-- 
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From: medha@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (keshav.havnurkar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: sony walkman information
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:48:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Nov13.154847.26869
Organization: AT&T

Hi
     I have a sony walkman WM-F2097 which is recording type walkman.(with AM/FM)
I donot have its users manual. I was confused about 2 of the things in
the walkman.
1. Does this have a switch to step at 9Khz instead of `normal` 10Khz
step ( required in some countries ) in AM tuning ?
2. It has a 3 position switch labelled ISS 1,2,3 what does these indicate ?

I request any person having this walkman or having any information about
it to contact me at keshav@mhcnet.att.com
Does SONY have any phone number where I can get any information ?
( I tried the 800-directory but SONY does not have any listing )

Thanks
Keshav Havnurkar
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:51:54 EST
Reply-To:     thiagarajan subramanian <SUBRAMAT@ETSU.BITNET>
From:         thiagarajan subramanian <SUBRAMAT@ETSU.BITNET>
Subject:      info request

Dear friends at SWL

I am a graduate student at the East Tenneessee State University in
Johnson City, TN,USA.

I am looking for a replacement of my broken telescopic antenna of
SONY ICF 7600 DS (ASIAN MODEL). I enquired at my local Radio-Shack
but they did not have any spare for that. Where can I find it ?

What is the current schedule of ALL INDIA RADIO GENERAL OVERSEAS SERVICE
or any REGIONAL SERVICE.

thank you

73s
thiagarajan subramanian
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:14:37 CST
Reply-To:     Neal Pape <NPAPE@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU>
From:         Neal Pape <NPAPE@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU>
Subject:      Your Money segment - ABC News - 11/09/92

The "Your Money" segment on ABC News on 11/09/92 was a story on a
shortwave transmitting site the United States is building in Israel.
The project was started during the cold war era and was designed to
avoid Soviet jamming.  Sixty transmitters and thirty-one antennas
would be placed on land in the Israel desert purchased for $60 million.
Highways and power lines were re-routed to clear the land.  Now that
the cold war is over, the Board for International Broadcasting wants
to use the site to broadcast into Islamic and Asian countries.
Opponents say that these areas are already served by VOA, existing
Israeli transmitting sites could be used, or a new transmitting site
in Kuwait could be used.  The total cost of the project is estimated
at $240 million.