HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout)
Subject: Re: Life w/ my MR2 (long!) :)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:30:16 GMT


Forgot to mention that she now has 98000 miles on her, and 100k should
show up in mid May the way the driving schedule looks.  Time to throw
her a christening party!
JTD
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Kill a Biker, Go to Jail.  NOT!!!
From: Philip_Martelli@kcbbs.gen.nz (Philip Martelli)
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:58:44 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

You haven't experienced Taxis until you get to Auckland. Not only to 
they not understand the traffic rules, some of them don't know the areas 
they are driving in, and still more of them don't even speak the language!!

Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: maurice@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Maurice Rich)
Subject: Re: fog lamps
Keywords: humor
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: 12 Apr 92 09:09:53 GMT

randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith) writes:


>I just got a fortune cookie that just fits the bill.   I love it.

>> Fog Lamps, n.:
>> 	Excessively (often obnoxiously) bright lamps mounted on the
>> 	fronts of automobiles; used on dry, clear nights to indicate
>> 	that the driver's brain is in a fog.
>> 
>> 	See also "Idiot Lights".
> 
>How true, how true.

I like it !  Although,  I've still got 450Watts accross the front end (my
last car, a '77 mazda 929, had 560watts !)

In Australia we have roos, wallabies, cattle, sheep, feral pigs, etc
who seemingly delight in trying to find the shortest messiest route between
the radiator grill and the dash that doesn't entail going over the bonnet
(hood I think you americans call it ?)  This kamikaze critturs sit beside
the road at night awaiting unwary motorists with underpowered high beams.
Thus my penchant for aftermarket lighting !


-- 
Maurice H. Rich		maurice@itc.gu.edu.au   M.Rich@itc.gu.edu.au 
Technical Officer				Ph  +61 7 875 7851
Information Technology Centre			Fax +61 7 875 7877
Griffith University,  Nathan,  Brisbane,  QLD,  Australia. 4122
From: grima@iphase.uucp (Gary Rima)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Slick-50 Motor treatment/oil
Summary: negative opinion about Slick-50 & similar
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:52:08 GMT
Organization: Interphase Corp.

In article <1992Apr9.215250.18301@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jks2x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.035058.24141@wuecl.wustl.edu> c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu (WILLIAM) writes:
>>
>>I've been hearing and seeing alot lately about this "Slick-50" motor treatment
>>They claim that it's not a motor oil but more of an engine protector.  
>>I was wondering what the various net opinions are about this product.  Has 
>>anyone used it?  Did it help?  Could it potentially harm the engine?  I've
>>heard it's rather expensive ($50+), is that true?
>>
>	Slick-50 is, as they claim, NOT oil.  It is indeed engine
>treatment, not _oil_ treatment (like STP), it's engine treatment.
>	STP and the like need to be added each time you change your
>oil, slick-50 does not.  It lasts upwards of 50,000 miles (check the 
>bottle on that, it may be higher).  
>	80-90% of engine wear occurs durring startup because there's
>no oil in the engine, it's sitting in the pan.  Ok, ok, when you start
>up after sitting for 2 minutes there is oil in the cylinders, but I'm
>talking abotu cold starts.  Slick-50 has teflon and some other stuff
>in it that coats the inside of the cylinder walls permanently.  That
>way you don't have metal rubbing on metal anymore.  
>
Yes, Slick-50 (and all the other similar products) contain Teflon (tm).
Note that nowhere on the container or in the literature is Teflon mentioned,
however.  This is because Teflon is a registered trademark of DuPont, who
feel that the claims made about Teflon-based oil additives are unsubstantiated
at best.  There is NO scientific evidence that the suspended Teflon particles
in these products actually bond or attach to the metal surfaces they claim
to protect.  All the claims and proofs cited in promo literature are purely
anecdotal in nature.  OTOH, the Teflon particles have been shown to attach to
each other (albeit rarely) in a process known as "Teflon flocking" and then
proceed to clog small oil passageways in the engine.

DuPont, as well as the major automotive lubricant companies, have chosen to
ignore a major, lucrative market for Teflon simply because the claims being
made aren't true.  All the above aside, however, this issue has risen to the
"religious argument" status and I hold no hopes of dissuading those who've
decided it's wonderful stuff.  To each their own.

-- 
Gary L. Rima						Interphase Corp.
PP-ASEL-IA						(214) 919-9226
Centurion N7358E					grima@iphase.com
N0GR							CompuServe 76050,231
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: dougb@comm.mot.com (DX529 Doug Bank)
Subject: Re: Sam Kinnison/seat belts
Reply-To: dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:35:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.161247.26642@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan) writes:

|> >I heard on the news last night that Sam's wife was in serious
|> >condition, but was expected to pull thru. Didn't hear whether she was
|> >wearing a belt or not.
|> 
|> According to Steve Dahl, Chicago DJ and personal friend of Sam's, Sam
|> was not wearing his belt but his wife was. Also mentioned was the
|> possibility that Sam survived the initial collision, and removed
|> himself from the vehicle. He died later (at the hospital?)

The article I read on the subject indicated that one of his multiple
injuries was a broken neck.  It also implied that he died instantly.
(Then again, they could be wrong)

-- 
Doug Bank                       Private Systems Division
dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com          Motorola Communications Sector
dougb@nwu.edu                   Schaumburg, Illinois
dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu       708-576-8207
From: knauer@cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Busted!
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:43:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.knauer.703132987
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

In <1992Apr13.004010.14185@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Robert.M.McLennan@dartmouth.edu (Robert M. McLennan) writes:
>Damn that instant-on.  I'm driving 70 on I-91 in Massachusetts (speed
>limit:  a whopping 55), and get nailed.  Cop wrote the ticket for 65
>mph = $50 fine.  No big deal - bound to happen sometime.  My question
>is, what policy does Mass. have with regards to reporting tickets to
>other states?  

Our fine state (correction: YOUR fine state; I'm but a transient here) has
reciprocal agreements with most of the Midwest and Great Plains states.  I
don't know about Massachusetts.

However, your worry these days is more with Equifax (somewhere in Georgia) than
state-by-state reciprocal agreements.  My (Ohio) insurance agent found out
about an Ohio ticket of mine not through the state, but from Equifax.  Illinois
reports to Equifax as well (or Equifax types it in from the records).  Dunno
about Massachusetts here, either.

Rob
--
Rob Knauerhase           University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
knauer@cs.uiuc.edu       Dept. of Computer Science, Gigabit Study Group
"There's no place like $FC58!"
From: dpeterso@mipos2.intel.com (David Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:12:30 GMT
Reply-To: dpeterso@mipos2.UUCP (David Peterson)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <10901@rls.UUCP> randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith) writes:
>bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
>> How 'bout the idiot who pulls up to the intersection, waits for
>> the light to change, then turns on the left turn signal.  For
>> that matter any person who signals less than a block from where
>> they're going to turn.
>
>Whoa, there pardner.  You're suggesting sitting at an interminable light
>to leave your turn signal on for the duration of the light is the proper
>or "non-idiot" thing to do?  Au contrare.

O.K. here's my two pennies worth. 
	Four lane road, two in each direction, no left turn lane, is legal 
to turn left, you'r at the head of some traffic approaching an intersection 
and want to turn left. TURN YOUR DAMN SIGNAL ON!!!!! I _HATE_ people who 
can't bend their precious finger to tell the world of their intentions. 
What the *&#% do you think the thing's for? Did you ever think of letting 
the people behind you have a chance at getting around you? I can't think 
of how many lights I've been stuck at because of "people" who pulled the 
no signal bit at a red light. Sorry - pet peve. Flame off.
	Next!
	Turn your signal on a block before? What about the guy who's waiting
for traffic to clear and sees your signal? Oh, I can pull out now - this
guy's turning. CRASH! HEY! I THOUGHT YOU WERE TURNING!? No, people shouldn't
assume that you were not going to turn even though you had the signal on -
but they do. ;-|
	One guy doesn't want to use the signal, the other uses it too much.
Guess I'm just too picky.
	Thanks for putting up with my bitchn'.
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David Peterson 
Intel Corp., M/S SC4-69, 2625 Walsh Ave.
Santa Clara, Ca. 95052-9940
dpeterso@mipos3.intel.com
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:20:38 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <10901@rls.UUCP>, randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith) writes:
|> bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Whoa, there pardner.  You're suggesting sitting at an interminable light
|> to leave your turn signal on for the duration of the light is the proper
|> or "non-idiot" thing to do?  Au contrare.
|> 
|> Bill, you might want to revisit your drivers ed books.
|> 
|> First off, by signalling after the light changes, they are most likely
|> performing their legally obligatory signal to inform oncoming traffic of
|> their intentions.  If there's an accident and they don't signal, they
|> can be cited for contributory neglegence.

Au contraire, yourself.  Since I no longer have a copy of my drivers' ed books
(it's been decades since I took a drivers' ed class) I took the liberty of looking
up the appropriate passage in the California Vehicle Code (published Jan 1992).

CVC22108 states that:

     Any signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given continuously
     during the last 100 feet travelled by the vehicle before turning.


|> 
|> Secondarily, if you turn your blinkers on one block before you turn you
|> are in violation of most cities and counties legal restrictions on use
|> of turn signals.  In Ohio it is a maximum of 100 feet before the turn,
|> no more.  Maybe you just live on short blocks. :)

As shown above, in California the signal must be given for a MINIMUM of 100 feet,
not a maximum.  Of course each state writes their own vehicl code, so Ohio may
in fact state a MAXIMUM.

|> 
|> Personally, I'm all for turning off turn signals while sitting at long
|> lights.  I KNOW YOU'RE TURNING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME ALL DAMNED
|> DAY LONG.  A brief informative notion that you're turning is enough,
|> but don't wear the message out.  Since you're not going anywhere, who
|> gives a damned. 
|>

Well, again referencing the code above, you are perfectly within the law to cancel
your signal while stopped but you must reinitiate the signal before moving.

-- 
Alan Hepburn           "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain
National Semiconductor       a little temporary safety deserve neither
Santa Clara, Ca              liberty nor safety."
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Benjamin Franklin
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: uk09365@nx10.mik.uky.edu (robert i kesten)
Subject: Re: Sam Kinnison/seat belts
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:13:10 GMT
Distribution: na
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr16.213537.2070@lmpsbbs.mot.com> dougb@comm.mot.com  
(DX529 Doug Bank) writes:
> In article <1992Apr16.161247.26642@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (K.  
Khan) writes:
> 
> |> >I heard on the news last night that Sam's wife was in serious
> |> >condition, but was expected to pull thru. Didn't hear whether she  
was
> |> >wearing a belt or not.
> |> 
> |> According to Steve Dahl, Chicago DJ and personal friend of Sam's, Sam
> |> was not wearing his belt but his wife was. Also mentioned was the
> |> possibility that Sam survived the initial collision, and removed
> |> himself from the vehicle. He died later (at the hospital?)
> 
> The article I read on the subject indicated that one of his multiple
> injuries was a broken neck.  It also implied that he died instantly.
> (Then again, they could be wrong)

The article I read (Lexington Herald-Leader) said that he was conscious  
and showed only superficial head injuries when he EXTRACTED HIMSELF from  
the car.  He then started complaining of pain (from internal injuries) and  
laid down on the road.  According to witnesses he began talking to the air  
(to himself, to God, whatever you want to believe) about being ready...  
and only then did he die.

RIK
From: mental@cntrol.enet.dec.com (ken mental)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Infra-red heat detection to catch speeders - NOT!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: mental@cntrol.enet.dec.com (ken mental)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



Got this messsage through email... 

Sounds like a hoax to me... Or someone doesn't know a thing about how LIDAR
(which actually does exist) works and is confused.

Have fun.
/ken
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A friend forwarded this to me:
    
    
       WHERE HAVE ALL THE MA STATE POLICE BEEN FOR THE LAST 2 MONTHS ?

Have you been asking yourself this question? Would you like to know the answer?
Read on:
          In School with a new sophisticated speed measurement device called
the IRD. It is an Infra-Red (heat detection) device that measures speed accur-
ately to .1 MPH. It is a small round device that is being installed in grey/
silver/blue 1992 &93 unmarked Mustangs and a limited number of State Cruisers.
It was rumored to appear on April 1st. First known siteing was yesterday 
4/8/92.There is presently NO KNOWN DEFENSE against it OTHER THAN obeying the speed
limit. 

Feel free to pass this note around to others as a precaution. Pls strip
my header before doing so. Forewarned is Forelorned.


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mental@cntrol.enet.dec.com		Fahrvergnugen = DriveAmusingly
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Summary: Directionals?  What's that??
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:19:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pictel.1992Apr9.171923.21995
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

In article <10901@rls.UUCP> randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith) writes:
>Personally, I'm all for turning off turn signals while sitting at long
>lights.  I KNOW YOU'RE TURNING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME ALL DAMNED
>DAY LONG.  A brief informative notion that you're turning is enough,
>but don't wear the message out.  Since you're not going anywhere, who
>gives a damned. 

Sometimes this means that the driver has changed his mind, and has
decided to go straight ahead when the light turns green.  Who cares if
they are already in the "turn only" lane?


>I'd love to see all cars by the year 1995 or sooner have turn signals
>that automatically shut off after ten blinkeys.

Good idea, but (again) I begin to wonder when someone who was
signalling for a turn stops signalling, even at a red light.  I think a
"lane change" position and a "going around the world to the left"
position beyond it would be a good idea; you would have to make a
conscious decision to keep the signal on.
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                 PictureTel, but they ought to be!
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: uk09365@nx08.mik.uky.edu (robert i kesten)
Subject: Re: Covert radar gun under development.
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:14:18 GMT
X-Bytes: 

Thanks for the explanations of how the spectrum hopping radar would work.   
I had even thought about the use of a psuedo-random sequence.  I assume  
the radar unit would wait until the signal had been processed before  
switching frequencies.

RIK
From: randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Pittsburgh Drivers Test
Keywords: farse, comedy, jokes, humor
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:09:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Internet

I recently got question number seven as my fortune cookie.  Maybe there
*is* something to fortunes.:-)  It was labeled the Pittsburgh Drivers
Test (PDT).  Out of curiosity I greped through the cookie file for any
other references to the PDT.  I only found question number eight. 

} (7) The car directly in front of you has a flashing right tail light
}     but a steady left tail light.  This means;
} 
} 	(a) one of the tail lights is broken; you should blow your horn
} 	    to call the problem to the driver's attention.
} 	(b) the driver is signaling a right turn.
} 	(c) the driver is signaling a left turn.
} 	(d) the driver is from out of town.
} 
} The correct answer is (d).  Tail lights are used in some foreign
} countries to signal turns. 
} 
} (8) Pedestrians are;
} 
} 	(a) irrelevant.
} 	(b) communists.
} 	(c) a nuisance.
} 	(d) difficult to clean off the front grille.
} 
} The correct answer is (a).  Pedestrians are not in cars, so they are
} totally irrelevant to driving; you should ignore them completely.

Personally I think (c) and (d) should get partial credit. :-)

Are there other questions and/or does anybody have the other questions
to this comical test?  Thanks for your help.

Cheers!

- randy

randy@rls.uucp  <backbone>!osu-cis!rls!randy  rls!randy@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
It's a fax from your dog, Mr. Dansworth.  It looks like your cat.  - Larson
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
From: kim@mustang.jts.com (T. Kim Nguyen)
Subject: Re: ATTN: Canadians! (re: Radar Detectors)
Reply-To: kim@jts.com
Organization: JTS Computer Systems Ltd.
	<1992Apr9.232323.25971@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:58:55 GMT

Radar detectors are illegal in Ontario and Quebec.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: jak@cs.brown.edu (Jak Kirman)
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Reply-To: jak@cs.brown.edu
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University
	<s1dtaINNo94@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> <1992Apr13.053722.18432@informix.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:11:52 GMT

In article <s1dtaINNo94@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> mike@gilligan.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori - Information Resources) writes:
   >That or the folks who drive up to the very end of a merge lane
   >before moving over (Usually happens on crowded roads, but I've
   >seen people just cruise along ignoring the signs, then expect
   >someone to be nice to them just because they are in a jam).

On my way home from work I get onto I-95 North in Providence.  Shortly
after I get on, the right lane becomes an exit-only.  About one hundred
meters further, the new right lane also becomes an exit-only (which I
take).  Both lanes have several very large EXIT ONLY signs.

Time and again I get on to the highway, merge into the second lane where
I intend to stay, and then watch someone putting along in the right hand
lane.  They pass the EXIT ONLY signs and keep going.  They pass the
solid white dividing line and keep going.  The barrier dividing the two
lanes appears.  Brake lights light up and the car starts to swerve.  It
pulls into the second lane just in time.  Of course, you know what
happens 100 meters further -- exactly the same thing...  Curiously, this
happens most often when the roads are *not* crowded, late at night.  And
the culprits don't usually look like they are drunk.

I think that there should be places where there are large signs saying
THIS LANE ENDS 100 YDS and then put a large sandtrap a hundred yards
further down.  I bet you would get rid of half the old men in hats and
big-hairs in a week :-)

                         Jak Kirman                        jak@cs.brown.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Arithmetic is being able to count to twenty without taking your shoes off.
                                                             -- Mickey Mouse
From: nicos@csa.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:30:56 GMT
Reply-To: nicos@cs.bu.edu (Nicos Kontopoulos)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <Apr.16.15.07.11.1992.26078@aramis.rutgers.edu> rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart) writes:
>
>fyi, at all circles still in existence in NJ, everybody has the right
>of way when entering and proceeding around a circle, according to a
>police officer I spoke to after being in an accident in a circle.
>
>
>Mark


It is not very clear to me what the cop told you. Could you please
explain?

Terms that give me trouble: "everybody" and  "when entering AND proceeding"



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From: jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout)
Subject: Re: Photo Radar in New Jeresy
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:43:02 GMT

amb@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman) writes:
> 
> According to the front page of the Somerset edition of the Star-Ledger,
> there's now a photo-radar setup on I-280 and one other place.
   (WHERE!???) 
> (It might not be too late to call and scream to your congress-critter if
> you're a native...)
> 
> andrew
Should we just walk up to the unit with a baseball bat and bash the
shit out the it?
	YOurs, with tongue in cheek,
		Jonathan (a native NJian:)
			;)
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:14:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabot.1992Apr9.211458.5583
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies

In article <1992Apr7.172614.16692@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jks2x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason) writes:

>	You want to talk about crazy speed limits?  There's an 
>apartment complex around where I'm from where the speed limit is
>(and I'm not making this up) 12 1/2 mph.  There's also a parking
>lot near a mall where the the limit is 11 mph.  You have to wonder
>what drugs these engineers were on.  (BTW, to avoid stupid flames: I 
>know that 12.5 is 25/2, but that's no excuse)

actually, this is becoming common; the premise here is that by
having `unusual' speed limits, drivers are more likely to sit
up and take notice of them.

i know of no studies that back this notion up, and moreover, since
such limits are mostly on minor roads only traveled by locals, i'll
wager that the shock effect wears off rather quickly and the signs
receed into the background again soon enough.

cheers,
  richard
-- 
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