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From: tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: New Mutants nitpick...
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:04:31 GMT

In article <visser.713581912@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
>	The wolver-god is the only true immortal in Marvel books and at 

Nope, the true immortal at Marvel is Aunt May. I still want to see a one
panel cameo of her in the background in a year 3000 set Guardians of the
Galaxy story.

"Decent ice cream is almost unobtainable in Britain.  On the other hand,
America has inexplicably failed to discover the chocolate-covered digestive
biscuit -- possibly the greatest single foodstuff ever invented."  -- Michael
Kinsley (I'll agree with both parts, and one of the nice things about LA is 
that a British food store in Santa Monica carries McVitie's, the best brand
of same).
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Origin of Quote Question
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:25:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.182711.5900@news.acns.nwu.edu> msr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Rosenberg) writes:
>What is the origin of the phrase, "Bang...you dead" and before people start
>responding thus, it is NOT Gambit.  Although everyone remembes him for this
>line when he used it against Wolvering after a training room session, he was
>not the first x-character to use it.  Forge uses it in Uncanny X-Men
>#255..."Bang buster.  You're dead."  (Well it's close enough).
>
>I have a feeling this quote originally comes from somewhere else (a movie?  TV
>show?)  I'm wondering if anyone knows where...

Something similar was used in "Uncommon Valor", where 1 character would "kill"
the other ones by hanging signs around their necks. Very funny scene, very 
depressing movie. 

Other sources might include the nose honking in Karate Kid I and II.

Topher
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Subject: Re: Magneto???
From: asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto)
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:23:06 GMT
Reply-To: asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto)
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center


In article <BtAFM0.I1z@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt
Hucke) writes:
|> 
|> He's not dead, he's just MarvelDead.  That means, even though he was
vaporized
|> by a nuclear missile in (newseries)Xmen #3, he'll have his own
limited series
|> next year. 

He was not vaporized by a nuclear missile; he was on Asteroid M when it fell
to Earth and "blew up".
					Tony
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:31:15 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue/Carol Danvers?

In article <1992Aug16.091609.11434@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson) says:
>
>A while back, shortly after Rogue reappeared from the Seige Perilous, she
>was having a war with Carol Danvers for control.  The last mention I saw
>of this was Magnete telling Rogue to come with him, and he would help her.
>Since then, I have seen no mention of what happened to the Carol Danvers
>personality.  Anybody out there know what happened?  Did they mention it
>in some obscure cross over or something?  Or is this just another one of
>the (many) plot holes in the Xmen these days?

I belive the Carol Danvers persona was destroyed at the end of that very
same issue.

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From: greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: what happened to Amanda Stephan??????
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:09:37 GMT
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Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

Gareth Torrey Munger wrote:

	What every happened to Amanda Stephan? Kurt W. SO.  or I
	should say ex-SO.  I heard she was involved with some of the
	muir Island stuff, but what exactully is She doing now?


Wasn't she (Amanda Stefton) in Excalibur's special TPB with the X-babies?
I thought she found out that she distantly related to some British royality
and had to marry some old stuffy duke.

Danielle.
From: sue_clark@maillink.berkeley.edu (sue clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue/Carol Danvers?
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:14:04 GMT
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From: Todd M. Hanson, ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Subject: Rogue/Carol Danvers?
In article  Todd M. Hanson, ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

>
>A while back, shortly after Rogue reappeared from the Seige Perilous, she
>was having a war with Carol Danvers for control.  The last mention I saw 
>of this was Magnete telling Rogue to come with him, and he would help
her.
>Since then, I have seen no mention of what happened to the Carol Danvers
>personality.  Anybody out there know what happened?  Did they mention it
>in some obscure cross over or something?  Or is this just another one of
>the (many) plot holes in the Xmen these days?

Actually, she was having a battle with the Ms. Marvel side of her psyche.
 Magneto rescued Rogue and destroyed her internalized Ms. Marvel for
good.  Carol Danvers, aka Binary, is still alive and well even if she did
a little trashed recently by someone in some other title.

I think this was an attempt to finally get away from 'the Ms. Marvel in
her took over' Rogue stories that were common for a while.

Sue
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30th.
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Subject: Re: Wolverine/Cable Questions???
From: sweide@uceng.UC.EDU (Steve Weide)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:40:13 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati

In article <19736@plains.NoDak.edu> fogel@plains.NoDak.edu (Chris Fogel) writes:
>	2. Is Cable actually Scott Summer's son?
           The X-ecutioner's Song crossover is supposed to deal with the
           Cable, Stryfe, Jean, Scott, and Alex controversy.
>
>	4. Anyone want to spill the information about who killed the X-Men
>	   in Bishop's future??????
           Originally it was supposed to be Gambit, but that idea was
           scratched because so many people liked him.  It's up for grabs now.
          
                                  Steve
From: das@cci632.cci.com (David Stumme (co-op))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men FAQ
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:45:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <0095F49D.AE4FDCC0@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu> ferguson@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu (Bill Ferguson) writes:
>My son has recently become an X-Men fan by playing the X-Men arcade game at
>50 cents a shot. He has a couple of the most recent issues now and wants more
>info. before looking for back issues. How can I get a copy of the FAQ mentioned
>in some of the recent postings? I have FTP and Telnet news capabilities but
>have never done anything but "read" the news. Thanks for your help.
>Bill Ferguson AXIBILF@UICVMC.BITNET

Regarding back issues: try one of two things:

   1) Trade paperback collections.   There are several trade paperback 
	collections featuring the most popular X-Men storylines.  These 
	include The Dark Phoenix Saga (Uncanny X-Men 129-137) and "From the
	Ashes" from 168-175.  There may be more, but I fon't keep up since 
	I have originals back to 141. :-)

   2) Look into buying back issues of X-Men Classic.  Classic is Marvel's 
	X-Men reprint book, and those issues are bound to be a lot cheaper
	than the original back issues. Classic started reprinting from 
	Giant Size X-Men #1/X-Men 94, and is now up to about the late 170s.

Good luck!  I really suggest you check out Dark Phoenix Saga, as it is 
probably the single best storyline in X-History.  Most of the older stuff
is far superior to current storylines, unfortunately.

--
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From: skoponen@daredevil.cs.hut.fi (Seppo K Koponen)
Subject: Re: Problem: Kid Dynamo
Reply-To: skoponen@niksula.hut.fi (Seppo K Koponen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:41:13 GMT

I wrote:
>Hei, came in too late too late, only got the last chapters of "Kid
>Dynamo", fell for the story, and proceeded to get the whole story
>from the given ftp-site... ONLY, for some reason, chapters 2, 4, 4a,
>5, 8 and 10 didn't uncompress all right, the text turns into garbage
>at some point. Tried the transfer twice, and the same files got
>corrupted, so either it's the original files or ...?
>
>Anyhow, I'm in deep trouble, hooked into the story badly, anybody
>kind enough to mail the missing parts ???

Forget, I changed the ftp-type from ascii to image(binary) and got
the files ok. Thanks anyway.
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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:51:55 -0400 
From: "David M. Pahnos" <dp0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rogue/Carol Danvers?

A while back, shortly after Rogue reappeared from the Seige Perilous, she
was having a war with Carol Danvers for control.  The last mention I saw 
of this was Magnete telling Rogue to come with him, and he would help her.
ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson)

Well, she duked it out for control of the shared life force, and
w/Magneto's help, Rogue won, with all the powers and none of the fuss. 
The other mind is gone (unfortunately).  

People have mentioned that FOrge could easily whip up a damper for Rogue
so she wouldnt be Mistress Angst anymore, and if she would have kept
Carol's half, it would have been an interesting reason why a Forgery
wouldn't work.  Her dichomtomy was the most interesting part of her. 
Maybe she can get possesed by Malice instead...


michael j pastor iii
guest on davids account
From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Magneto???
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:04:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bt9CBB.I1s
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I haven't read X-men for a while, but while scanning messages I have
noticed a few references to a "dead" Magneto. Is Magneto dead? If so,
when and how did this happen?

-pmm

-- 
"Is it madness, my dear Enchantress, which drives a man of my genius to strive
 for an impossible prize..or is it the striving for that which is ever just
 out of reach which prevents madness from overtaking me?"  
					Dr. Doom, Secret Wars
From: ferguson@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu (Bill Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: X-Men FAQ
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:42:40 GMT
Reply-To: ferguson@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu (Bill Ferguson)
Organization: Nuclear Physics Laboratory, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

My son has recently become an X-Men fan by playing the X-Men arcade game at
50 cents a shot. He has a couple of the most recent issues now and wants more
info. before looking for back issues. How can I get a copy of the FAQ mentioned
in some of the recent postings? I have FTP and Telnet news capabilities but
have never done anything but "read" the news. Thanks for your help.
Bill Ferguson AXIBILF@UICVMC.BITNET
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From: tsang@cs.washington.edu (Donald Tsang)
Subject: Re: Kid Dynamo.. repost?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 10:20:32 GMT

In article <> ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson) writes:
>
>Being one of the unfortunate few (?) who didnt catch the entire run of the 
>infamous Kid Dynamo series, and also not having ftp access.. what are the 
>chances or getting the Kid Dynamo series reposted?  There certainly seems
>to be enough interest in it.. 

Bad idea.  There is an FTP-by-email service available.

Good... no, GREAT story though...

-- 
Donald Tsang                    "Ho!  Haha!  Guard!  Turn!  Parry!  Dodge!
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From: sweide@uceng.UC.EDU (Steve Weide)
Subject: #1 fan 
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati
 
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:04:11 GMT


I must say this sub-plot in X-Factor was one of the best I have ever seen.
I'm sort of disappointed he didn't get out because after all the time
they spent over the last issues building it up, it would have been
beautiful.  No ends to tie up here (except arteries) and only a few
pieces to put together (his).
                      Steve
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: New Mutants nitpick...
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:02:19 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <66208@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.142128.29709@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>>In article <65688@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>>>The question is, if Sam AKA Cannonball is an immortal (external, whatever),
>>>why was he not resurrected soon after the Beyonder killed the New Mutants 
>>>during SWII?
>>
>>Seeing as how this gets asked about every other week, don't you think
>>it's about time it gets put in the FAQ?
>
>Seeing how i've been reading this group since it arrived, and read r.a.c.
>almost daily for over a year, and i've never seen the question asked before,
>i thought i'd ask it, because i was curious.  You can put it anywhere you
>want to.
>
>Geez, with about 6 posts a day, you'd think people would welcome the
>traffic through this group...
>
>JRjr

I have seen it discussed on r.a.c. before, within the last few months.  (The
"every other week" was an exageration)  I think the FAQ should be used to
clear up any potential confusion caused by major (or seemingly major)
continuity errors such as this one.  I'm not saying that the traffic isn't
welcome, or even desired, just that it gets repetitive hearing the same
arguements over and over (try reading the discussions on why Sarah Connor
wasn't killed by the T-1000 in Terminatior 2 in other newsgroups for an
example of this).  I didn't intend for my response to be insulting, 
although re-reading it, it might seem that way.  I was just making an
observation and suggestion to prevent further "Why are you wasting
bandwith on this when it was just discussed a little while ago?" postings
in the future.
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:27:19 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: New Mutants nitpick...

In article <65688@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray)
writes:
>The question is, if Sam AKA Cannonball is an immortal (external, whatever),
>why was he not resurrected soon after the Beyonder killed the New Mutants
>during SWII?

As has been answered before, there is a difference between being killed and
being uncreated.  If Sam never existed, he could not be a Highlord and thus
couldn't have been resurrected.  I, unfortunately, have the distinction of
having been the first to ask this and be quickly answered.  Makes sense, I
guess....

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From: gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: New Mutants nitpick...
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:36:22 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug17.142128.29709@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <65688@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>>The question is, if Sam AKA Cannonball is an immortal (external, whatever),
>>why was he not resurrected soon after the Beyonder killed the New Mutants 
>>during SWII?
>
>Seeing as how this gets asked about every other week, don't you think
>it's about time it gets put in the FAQ?

Seeing how i've been reading this group since it arrived, and read r.a.c.
almost daily for over a year, and i've never seen the question asked before,
i thought i'd ask it, because i was curious.  You can put it anywhere you
want to.


Geez, with about 6 posts a day, you'd think people would welcome the
traffic through this group...

JRjr
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just don't understand.  Beyond the dark horizon, out where the people are
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From: a905576@tiuk.ti.com (David Pardoe          (0013 spif))
Subject: Re: what happened to Amanda Stephan??????
Reply-To: a905576@tiuk.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments Ltd.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:54:49 GMT

In article 44857@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU, greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge) writes:
>Wasn't she (Amanda Stefton) in Excalibur's special TPB with the X-babies?
>I thought she found out that she distantly related to some British royality
>and had to marry some old stuffy duke.
>
>Danielle.

No, that was Judith Rassendyll (sp?) who was rescued from Arcade by Kurt (around
U. X-Men 204 I think). She turned out to be of middle European nobility, and so her
chances for a relationship with Kurt were dashed.

David.
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From: Steve.Zwanger@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Steve Zwanger)
Subject: Re: Wild C.A.T.S. = X-Men? NOT!
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:48:55 GMT

In article <Bt71HB.Grs@cs.psu.edu> petonak@chem.psu.edu (Paul Petonak) writes:
>Actually, I think WC has many interesting ideas and approaches to 'heroes'
>that have nor been explored in other books.

Like what? Can you be more specific?

Steve

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From: sue_clark@maillink.berkeley.edu (sue clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: psylocke and the butterfly effect
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:36:04 GMT
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From: the Greatful Fred, derf@ravel.udel.edu
Subject: psylocke and the butterfly effect
In article  the Greatful Fred, derf@ravel.udel.edu writes:

>
>	From Bullfinch's Mythology after the fable of Cupid and Psyche,
>
>		The Greek name for a butterfly is Psyche, and the same
>		word means the soul.
>
>	Therefor, MHO is that the effect of the butterfly came from
>	someone with a good backing in mythology, or languages, or 
>	simply someone who thought it looked cool.

Sure Fred.  Remind us of the days when the writers thought!!  ::sigh:: 
I'm so depressed now. ;)

Sue
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"I fear for the darkness as four Justices anxiously await the single vote
necessary to extinguish the light." -- from an exerpt of Judge Blackmun's
opinion on Planned Parenthood vs. Casey; from the NY Times, Tuesday, June
30th.
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From: mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hmmm. . .)
Subject: Where are the X-men!! (was X-men vs Wildcats)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:16:05 GMT

asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto) writes:

>In article <1992Aug20.125454.9112@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>,
>whijv2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.o
>z.au (WHITAKER JASON) writes:
>|>
>|>     I don't know why most of you people out there collect X-things, but
>|> I do it for the characters. The art and story, while they help, are not
>|> the be all and end all of a comic. I read them to follow the characters,
>|> not to look at pretty pictures.

>Hmm, here's a tough call... I collect the X-Men because I have a VERY
>big run of
>the book (I only need 4 issues and I'll have the entire series minus the
>reprints between 66-93). The reason I started reading the book was becuase of
>the STORIES about the characters. Believe it or not it was the "Fall of the
>Mutants" that got me started with the X-Men. I started looking for back issues,
>and luckily, the first run of back issues I got was the Phoenix Saga, a great
>STORY.

>I think I'm still reading the books because I have hope. I figure that with
>the group of characters that are on the team there's no way a bad STORY can
>be written. Unfortunately, I'm wrong. I want a good STORY. I want the family
>back. I want the group of characters that sucked me into comics.

>|>     For those of you who hate the X-men now because of dangling plots
>|> or bad art, where is your loyalty to the team? So they are going through
>|> bad times graphically, they will pull through. Ask yourselves this,
>|> "If I am reading this book for the art or just a good story, do I deserve
>|> to read it at all?" You people have no loyalty/feelings at all.

>Ask yourself this, "Do you think we are all complaining about the direction of
>the X-Men because we ARE loyal to the team?" We don't want/like the drivel
>that is written in the books these days. I don't hate them for dangling
>plots... Actually, it's just the opposite. I hate the way they are tying
>up Claremont's dangling plots by killing anyone involved in the
>danglers (Hellfire Club, Hellions, Reavers, Morlocks, etc.).

>The X-Men weren't just a group of characters to me. They were a cohesive group
>that had very good (here's that word again) STORIES written about them. They
>have all that potential, and no one has been able to tap into it since
>Claremont left. Others on the net might hate the X-Men, but I don't... I just
>miss them.

Well said.  I too miss the X-Men, but I won't read the books today
because the characters wandering about those pages have little 
resemblance to the X-Men that I knew and loved before their unfortunate
demise.  Let me know when they come back to life -- Marvel has a 
way of bringing dead characters back, right :-)


>|>     Me, I will never flame a comic on principle. Comics are to be
>|> coveted, not insulted.

>Good comics are to be read (I don't know about coveted), bad comics are to be
>insulted.
>					Tony