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From: normos@aix.rpi.edu (Susan Marie Normore)
Subject: Re: NYS chase cars (WAS: Re: More CHP shit!)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:37:48 GMT

>jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio) writes:
>>Have you actually seen one?  From what I had read in the NY Times and
>>the local rag, New York will be replacing the Mustangs with high-output
>>Camaros, not Corvettes.

I live in Troy, NY just outside Albany.  The state police have at
least 1 IROC car, marked with light bars and the rest of the 
NYS bells and whistles, and it is used primarily in speed enforcement
in the I-90 I-87 areas around Albany. It has instant-on K band radar
equipment (probably Kustom KR10 equipment).

I saw the IROC twice on the highways last weekend (July 18-19).Z

The TROY city police have a marked Corvette that was donated/siezed during
a drug raid and converted for law enforement use.  It is mostly used for
school demonstrations and as a "show car". I have not seen the Corvette
during City patrols.

Just FYI,

Jamie Tedeschi
normos@rpi.edu


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mohammadk@ecs.comm.mot.com (Mohammad Khan)
Subject: 1985 Toyota celica
Organization: control_centers
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:41:18 GMT

                                                                        8/31/92                                                                 


Hello,
      I recently bought a 1985 Toyota Celica GT. I paid $3300 dollars
      for the car. I have a few questions about the car and I would appreciate
      if some one would answer any or all of the following questions:

      - Did I get a fair deal ? (The car is in good condition except for the
        broken cassette player and it has 62K miles on it ).
      
      - Do I need to watch out for any serious problem/s with the car ?

      - Are there any good auto workshops in the Chicago land area that will repair
        the car at a reasonable cost ?

      - How many miles can I get out of this car without spending a fortune ?

      - Is there any Celica users group on the usnet ?

                                                          Thanks in advance

                                                            Mohammad Khan


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Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.forsale
From: darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: WANTED: Passport or Escort DSP Radar Detector
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:35:50 GMT

Looking for a good condition used Passport or Escort DSP radar 
detector.  Willing to pay $50 (slightly negotiable) plus shipping
for the Passport, and up to $100 for the Escort DSP.

Email if you're interested.

Daryl
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From: eme@oregon.uoregon.edu (Elaine Erwin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Info Wanted: Toyota Previa
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:31:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: University of Oregon

I apologize if this has been beaten to death but, as I don't normally read
this group...

I'm interested in th 1992 Toyota Previa.  I've read a bunch of consumer 
information on various minivans and have test driven the Previa and was
quite
impressed.  I cruised around on streets and the freeway but didn't take any
hills to speak of.  Anyone have experience with the Previa and hills or
heavy
load conditions in general?  I don't plan to do any towing but I hate to be
competing with VW busses for last one up the hill :-(.

In general I'd like to hear why you did or didn't buy a Previa.

Post or e-mail.  I'll be checking both.

Thanks in advance.


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eme@oregon.uoregon.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: zenith89@bwdlh130.bnr.ca (Chris VanFleet)
Subject: Re: American Behemoth Wagons
Reply-To: zenith89@bwdlh130.bnr.ca ()
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd., Ottawa, CANADA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:21:17 GMT

In article <13194@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>Does anyone have any experience with the huge Chevy Caprice/
>Olds Custom Cruiser/ Buick Roadmonster of 91 or 92 vintage,
>specifically in the station wagon model?
>
>Interested in any experience, good or bad... also, how bad
>are these rear-wheel drive dinosaurs in the snow?
>
>	Dave
>
Last of the big wagons, since Ford dropped the Crown Vic wagon (and
ruined the sedan too the f***ers). Anyway, these are great cars, 
if you can get one that has been put together properly. The quality
of the upholstery, exterior trim and gaskets (esp. the rear window
seal) don't seem very good -- yet. Don't know how they handle in
snow, as I don't own one yet. I may buy next year, after they have
worked some of the assembly bugs out. 

BTW, the Custom Cruiser is dead. Production stopped recently due
to lack of sales.  
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: goble@hardy.u.washington.edu (Brian Goble)
Subject: Re: Toyota Supra Repost
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:47:31 GMT

ccm038@rosie.ucdavis.edu (Jason Yan (can cook)) writes:

>In article <653@svcs1.UUCP> twc@svcs1.UUCP (Ted Chan) writes:
>>From article <9207211702.aa25119@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu>, by pcolline@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU:
>>> Earlier I posted about Supra's but only one person replied by email.  Doesn't
>>> anyone own one of these or even like them?
>>
>>My brother-in-law has a post '86 naturally aspirated Supra.  The car
>>is a bit on the heavy side and a bit underpowered.  Definitely closer
>>to the luxury GT paradigm, rather than a sports car.  The turbo
>>version is a bit quicker, but isn't anything to get excited about.
>>I do like the looks, though this tends to be a VERY subjective matter.
>>Quality appears to be good.
>>
>>twc@legal.uucp

>Underpowered?  Hmmmm, I don't notice that in my 86.5 Supra.  I drive on
>I-80 a lot, and every time I hit those 40 degree climbs up the mountain
>sides, I can fly up the mountain at about 85 miles an hour with ease
>(rpm at about 3500 - 4000).  It feels very solid and not at all like I'm
>pushing it to it's limit.  Though you're right, it is kind of heavy for
>a car.  But I think it makes up for it with the 6 cylinder 200 hp engine.

> 					Jason Yan
>					ccm038@fred.ucdavis.edu

Better yet, get a Supra Turbo ('87 and up).  You'll have 232 hp plus
ABS and Adjustable, Electronically Maintained Suspension are
standard.

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From: james@koko.csustan.edu (Jonas Grumpy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 300Z vs. M3
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:27:51 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <Bs2HID.7p0@acsu.buffalo.edu> v368ucgd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TOM STEEGMANN) writes:
>In article <92209.133934JMARTIN@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, JMARTIN@WUVMD writes...
>>Simply question.
>> 
>>Which car is better for the money and which has the better maintance
>>record?
>> 
>>I have been looking at 1990 and 1991 300Z and  1987 - 1988 BMW M3.
>> 
>>Also, what is a ball park range to pay for these?
>> 
>>Around here, the 300's can be purchased between 17k - 22k....
>>             the M3 can be picked at the 16k - 19k range.
>> 
>>I cannot decide, but should both have about the same performance?
>>  Just delievered differently........
>> 
>
>	The real difference that the BMW has tradition, and is a whole
>lot more cool than the Nissan. The 300zx is sort of like the kid who
>worked real hard in high school, so everyone though he was a genius, as
>compared to the BMW, which would be the  truly brilliant person who had
>more lofty things on his mind than impressing others. Ive driven both
>cars, the BMW has soul, the Nissan has flash. I think that the 300
>might be a little faster, but I'd take the BMW.
>
>
>
>
>
>>Joe Martin
>>Washington University - St. Louis
>>jmartin@wuvmd.wustl.edu


I would take the M3 anyday. The 300 is like someone watching the masters
work their craft and then running out to copy what they saw. The product
they bring you has all the bells and whistles but the path to the  final
product was a gross shortcut and it is plainly apparent in the final 
product. The M3 is going to be the 2002 tii of the 80's Not to mention
the fact that it is absolutely beautiful in white. Japanese engines may
put out high horses but they are NOT!!!! high performance engines.
From: paasch@kepler.ME.ORST.EDU (Bob Paasch)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Connolly Hide Food
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:41:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University

In article <1992Jul28.155840.7084@dsd.es.com> bjernfal@olin.dsd.es.com (Jan Bjernfalk) writes:
>
>A while back I remember seeing some positive reviews of a treatment
>for leather seats called "Connolly Hide Food", or something close to
>that.
>
>Does anyone know where to buy this stuff?
>
>-- 
>__________________________________________________________________________
>Jan Bjernfalk                           Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
>bjernfal@dsd.es.com                     Salt Lake City, Utah  801-582-5847


Try your local Jaguar or Porsche dealer.  Expect to pay
about $10 for a jar.  The stuff is worth it (IMHO).

Bob Paasch
From: bryan@elara.mitre.org (Bryan Blackwell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ford Probe
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:02:25 GMT
Distribution: rec.autos
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730

In article <RAGUIN.92Jul28094415@joker.optics.rochester.edu>, raguin@joker.optics.rochester.edu (Daniel Raguin) writes:
|> 
|> I've been looking at a bunch of cars as possible ones to buy shortly
|> and the Probe ranks high on the list (the cars I've been looking at
|> are used cars about two or three years old).  My question regarding
|> the Probe is specific to the 1990 year.  In that year (I believe it's
|> the same for 1991 and 1992), the Probe could come in a V-6, 4
|> cylinder, and as a turbo 4.  Regarding the turbo 4, what fuel does it
|> require?  I talked to two dealers and one said that it runs on regular
|> 87 octane, another said it could run on 87 because of knock sensors
|> but that it would probably run better with a higher octane, and then
|> one owner of a Probe I talked to said that he thought the minimum
|> octane rating was 89, but that he was putting 93 in his all the time.
|> Who's right?  Also if the turbo requires more expensive fuel is there
|> any reason to get it over the V6?  Mind you, the car will be equipped
|> with an auto tranny (no flames please--the mrs. has been driving a
|> manual to and from work each day (downtown traffic) and after a year
|> or so of that wants an automatic).
|> 
|> Thanks for your input.
|> 
|> Dan
|> 
|> 
|> P.S.  I've driven the Turbo and didn't see any label on the dash
|> saying anything about premium fuel, though I forgot to check the gas
|> cap itself.
My mother has a "90 Probe Turbo, and it will run OK on 87 octane,  but there
is noticeably more power if she uses 93.  The down side to the turbo is that
it is tough to control in 1st and 2nd if you go full throttle - the turbo kicks in
rather suddenly.  Not impossible, just a little strange at first.  Don't try it
in the rain the first time.  I drove a '91 v-6 auto in Calif.  two years ago, and 
found it quite reasonable in terms of power.  It was smoother than the turbo
too.  It would accelerate from 55 very nicely up the grapevine with two of us
and lots of luggage.  On the other hand, the turbo delivers significantly more
power.  Pay yer money and make your choice.
From: v368ucgd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TOM STEEGMANN)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Re: Sentra E vs. Saturn SL (SE-R & SC)
Date: 25 Jul 92 16:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul25.122858.1407@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm) writes...
> 
>Speaking from some experience with muscle cars in the 60's,
>the Shelby Mustangs were the best of a bad lot.
> 
>BUT, they were NEVER well balanced, sophisticated, or refined.
> 
>Any econobox of today has better brakes, suspension, and
>especially TIRES, than any muscle car of the '60's.  As for
>engine power, I would like to see a genuine Shelby Mustang,
>vs. a Sentra SE-R at Nelson's Ledges......
	
	What about a 67 L88 vette? Or any of the injected small block
or carbed big block vettes? Their brakes were 4 wheel disk with multiple
pistons for every caliper. These could stop faster than almost ANYTHING
made since then (except for newer vettes and porsches). They could waste
any jap econobox on any kind of road course, or any other race for that
matter. I'm pretty sure it could beat the 300zx in the slalom. As far as 
suspension goes, how does 4 wheel independent grab you? There were some
American Muscle cars fo the day that had that feature that was "foreign"
to the Japanese until recently. How about 0-100-0? No car has ever beat
the cobra's sub 13 second performance in that. Check your facts before
you go shooting your mouth off next time.


Tom


> 
>Jeff
>Who is admitting his age again....
From: EGQ@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: HELP : Fuel Meter Question
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:00:09 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

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Hi,
I have the following question about the fuel meter on my 85 RX-7-GSL. Everytime
I fill up the tank, the meter indicates that the tank is only about 80% full.
However, I know that it is completely full. Any suggestions ?
Thank you.
Mounir Blibeche / Penn State.
From: glaird@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Gordon Laird)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:54:08 GMT
Subject: Re: Passport Wideband Radar Detectors
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos

   All this talk about Ka leads me to reply.
   It is my understanging that Ka is only used with Photo Radar.  It is only
used in low power applications because of the characteristics of Photo
Radar.  The beam is projected at a steep angle, across traffic, imediately
in the vicinity of the Photo Radar unit.  Because of this, there is little
scatter, and no projection of the beam any meaningful distance down the 
road way.
   The end result is, even if you were able to detect Ka, by the time you
could react to any signal you recieved, you would be staring at the smiling
face of the cop operating the unit, who could count the lashes on your 
eye lids.
From: seanr@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Sean Reifschneider)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: WANTED: Passport or Escort DSP radar detector
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:19:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rocky Mountain High School, Fort Collins, CO

In article <1992Jul19.224531.22477@tamsun.tamu.edu> dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>I'm looking for a good used Passport or Escort DSP radar detector with
>accessories.  I'm willing to pay around $50 or so for the Passport and 
>more for the Escort DSP (suggest a price - I'm not 100% sure what I should

Well, the DSP is a collectors piece now.  They don't make them any more.  I'll
sell you mine for about $3000.

#include <smiley.h>   // for the humor impaired.

Sean
From: sudeep@arc.UUCP (Sudeep Sharma)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: M5 vs. Sports Cars
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:48:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advansoft Research Corp, Santa Clara, CA


 Dude, I don't have the exact numbers with me right now,
 but the latest M5 models will leave both the 300ZXTT and
 the Corvette eating dust. I am not sure about the new
 Mazda RX-7.

 In addition, like someone posted an article earlier
 about the modified 535i being faster than enen the M5.
 Check out them numbers!

 Sean.
From: hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Horsepower is a mean
Keywords: pipe
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:16:43 GMT
Organization: The Blue House

Larry.Mc.Donald@ofa123.Fidonet.org (Larry Mc Donald) says:
>
>PL>Why not use PVC pipe.  You can get it with ratings that high.  And it glues
>PL>together easily.  Not much plumbing experience needed.  You could use long
>PL>runs of 3,4,5" or more pipe to increase the volume of your tank and then
>PL>tap off the pipes where needed.  A friend of mine did this and it works
>PL>great.
>
>   PVC pipe is actually *illegal* to use in a compressed air
>applications. If you hit it or somehow damage pvc pipe with
>compressed air in it, it turns into a shrapnel bomb.
>   That being said, I use schedule 80 pvc pipe for air line all
>the time. I wouldn't dream of using anything less than Sch.80,
>but I've never had a problem with it yet.
>
>   Max pressures for PVC pipe, Sch.80:
>
>3/4"   = 1130psi      1/2" = 850psi    3/4" = 690psi    1" = 630psi
>1-1/4" = 520 psi    1-1/2" = 471psi      2" = 400
>2-1/2" = 425psi         3" = 375psi

Copper pipe is also used for compressed air applications.  Depending
on what pressures you're talking about, Sch 40 is just as good
too. At ambient temperatures, 150LB class pipe can handle a LOT
of pressure.

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From: hhd0@newshost.gte.com (Horace Dediu)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Which octane gas to use
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:09:37 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

If the owner's manual reccommends a certain octane, say 87, would using
higher octane have *any* effect on performance (acceleration, mileage, etc.)?
Would it be detrimental or beneficial in any way, other than to your wallet.

Certainly, one should not use low octane in high compression engines, but
what about the other way (high octane in low compression engines)?

I've heard arguments both ways and want to know what net.wisdom thinks.
-- 
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(617) 466-4111                                                40 Sylvan Road
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena)
Subject: Re: M5 vs. Sports Cars
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:59:11 GMT

In article <5111@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
>In article <SUDEEP.92Jul23154930@pundit.arc.UUCP> sudeep@arc.UUCP (Sudeep  
>Sharma) writes:
>> 
>>  Have you driven not the BMW 535i sedan but the M5?
>>  It will blow the sh*t out of most sport cars!
>> 
>>  Sean.
>
>Most ?
>
>You could almost buy two RX-7's for the price of an M5, and each one will
>peel the paint right off the M5. Faster acceleration, better brakes, better
>handling. Same for a new Corvette LT-1, same for a 300zx twin turbo, same
>for a Stealth/3000GT. 
>
>The M5's of the mid-late 80's were among the faster cars of their day, but
>comparing a new M5 to any of the recent generation of super-sports cars is
>a little far-fetched. The new 5-series body is just too heavy.

This may be ture, but no other true 4 seater can match it, MB 500E is the
exception.  But it costs about twice the what the M5 does.  Also, the new
M5's at least in Europe have larger engines, which will blow the sh*t out
of most sports cars!!!!!


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opionions expressed are mine and only mine <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu)
Subject: Re: Best Sports Coupe with GT Performance
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:20:46 GMT

In article <53060048@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com> leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence Leong) writes:
>In rec.autos, ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm) writes:
>
>
>    NEVER, EVER buy an American Car in it's first year of production.
>
>    The first year is when they work out the mistakes in design and
>    production.
>
>    Jeff
>
>Heh, heh.  "Customer is the QC dept" concept?  Naw, maybe "customer is the
>beta site" concept.  :-) :-)
>
>lawrence

That must be GM's coporate edict from what I've heard on the net.
On the other hand, I bought my 1987 Mustang GT shortly after it first
hit the streets.  It had a newly tweaked EFI engine that just won't
quit, and hasn't yet after 5 years and 55,000 miles.  The rest of the
car is just mediocre design, but I have no complaints about reliability.

Happy motoring.
eyc

BTW:  I like the appearance of the new Probe too, but I just can't
understand why the GT version, with all its "aero" stuff, has worse
aerodynamics than the LX version, with no tack-on stuff.  Since
somebody at Ford had to design each of those pieces, why couldn't they
have taken it a little further and aero tune them in a wind tunnel?
-- 
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From: knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:12:30 GMT
Subject: Re: 1989 Ford Tempo problem
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos


> > Awhile back I posted a question about my fuel pump
> > on my Ford Tempo and got many helpful responses.
> > 

 stuff  deleted

> I have a 1988 Ford Tempo whose checkered history includes a recent

We recently bought an 89 Tempo for my wife. Shortly after getting it,
the automatic seatbelts started jamming (after it hit the sun visor
twice). Apparently a plastic gear stripped. Then I noticed on one
of the many used car books that the Tempo was rated as unreliable.

Oops...

Tom

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