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From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:13:02 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

In article <1993Jan20.174628.11292@igor.tamri.com>, donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
|> In article <1jhpjlINNgp1@umbc4.umbc.edu> potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler) writes:
|> >it's the paranoid "i'll get them before they get me" self-defense types that
|> >frighten me the most. kind of like the people that rent a big rig to move and
|> >have never driven a truck before. do they get lessons or even advice? NNNnnnoo
|> 
|> What about people who have sex without prior instruction?

They're not gonna fuck up anybody but themselves.

|> Or ride a motorcycle without training?

In all likelihood, that person's not gonna fuck up anybody but him/herself.

|> Or vote?

I don't lose my temper and blow somebody's head off with my vote.

Get real. 

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|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
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|If you could choose between the body of a 20-year |
|old or the body of a 50-year old, where would you |
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From: baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Snow And Traffic
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:31:56 GMT
Organization: Atheist for the Development of a Better God
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

In article <C1GL5K.Jv6@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
[Drivers who slow down for snow, even though the roads are clear]

	While these people are annoying, there is a worse breed out here.
These are the people who refuse to slow down, no matter how bad the roads 
get. For instance, last month we had a pretty good winter storm and the
roads were covered with ice. So, on the way home, I was cruising along
at a nice 20 mph, because any faster and my truck refused to stop when
I wanted to break. Most of the rest of the folks were doing about the same,
as all we wanted was to get home and have a nice, big mug o' hot chocolate.
Suddenly, Speed Racer cuts right in front of me, speeds up, cuts in front
of the guy in the other lane, passes the guy in front of me, cuts in front
of him and proceeds to skid off of the road and flip his car on the median.

	The advantage to these people, I guess, is that you don't need
the helicopter gunships to take care of them. They are often a self
limiting problem. The helicopters with the electromagnets are a good
idea for these people, however.

ObPeeve: Last year, I peeved about the fact that the City of Albuquerque
had decided to close my street between 6 and 9 times for construction.
However, I was always able to get home, since they were only closing
a section near my house, but it was still annoying going through all
of the detours. Now, they have gone too far. They have now decided that
ripping up a section of street 6+ times is plenty and they have moved
down the street a bit. Now they are right in from of my house. Thus,
I am no longer allowed to drive home. Now, I get to walk about a
block to get there(This is not the peeve. I can handle walking a
whole block. The peevesome bit is them closing the street.). And to
make matters worse, this morning at 7:15am, they decided that this
was the time to get the really big piece of equipment that rips up
the pavement and beeps a lot and rip up the piece of pavement right 
outside of my bedroom window.

UnrelatedNote: Dan 'talk'ed at me last night complaining that I had
defamed his character. So, I guess he, at least, is still among the
living.

>Next Week: Instant Traffic Jam Clearance Using Low-Yield Tactical Nukes
At least a tactical nuke would get the snow and ice off of the roads.

-- 

"My essential point is that the First Amendment does more for men
than it does for women by protecting speech that supports patrimony"
  -- Law Prof. Mary Becker, U of Chicago Law School
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Language and Kitchen Tools (Was: Orientals . . .)
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1ji6otINNffl@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU>
	<ATAYLOR.93Jan20215359@gauss.nmsu.edu>
	<1993Jan21.203337.16313@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:47:16 GMT

<In article <1993Jan21.203337.16313@netcom.com> rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon) writes:

<In article <ATAYLOR.93Jan20215359@gauss.nmsu.edu> Nosy writes:

<> [ ... ]
<>	Only superficially. The Soviets spilled literally oceans
<>	of blood and of ink to create the "New Soviet Man", a 	
<>	creature that would live the Communist ideal. 

<NitPeeve: "Literally", when used as an intensifier, changing the sense
<of a statement to meaninglessness.  

	   How so? It is hyperbole to write about oceans of blood,
	   in most cases, but the Bolsheviks killed around 100
	   million people. That's what, 100 million times a couple
	   of gallons?

<It grates, is what it does.

	Not only that, it slices, dices, peels, Juliannes, 
	mashes....send cash, check or money-order to 
	Stalin's Kitchen.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: KidZ ( was Another "I'm getting old" peeve)
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Mt. Idy Home for the Unregenerate
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:48:54 GMT


In article <1k6hpjINN8j8@umbc4.umbc.edu>, potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler) sez
about me:

|>now isn't that strange. how the net plays tricks on one.
|>i pictured you as the average hormone-driven college freshman.
|>
|>wonder why.
|>
|>-l "maybe it was your posts" p

*BLUSH* Thanks, Ma'am. It just proves that young and youthful ain't the same.
--
Nolan "Guess which mask I'm wearing now" etc.
From: potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: KidZ ( was Another "I'm getting old" peeve)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:46:27 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu

In article <1993Jan26.192216.6447@twg.com> nolan@twg.com writes:
>Good grief! What's with you youngsters, ennyhoo? I'm gonna be 49 in a few more
>looks to be even better. I'm old enough that my hormones don't get in my way

now isn't that strange. how the net plays tricks on one.
i pictured you as the average hormone-driven college freshman.

wonder why.

-l "maybe it was your posts" p


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*     "How did Elvis' handwriting appear on his own death certificate?"  *
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From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Snow And Traffic
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:40:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <C1GL5K.Jv6@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
>It's happened again. Despite the fact that we live in a climate where snow
>is a pretty common occurrence during the winter, I'm increasingly convinced
>that 90% of the drivers must have learned to drive in, oh, Tahiti or
>somewhere like that. No, on second thoughts, I'm sure that most drivers in
>Tahiti would be *much* better at coping with a snowfall than those in
>Edinburgh. Maybe their brains seize up below a certain temperature.

I have a few thoughts on this matter which I would like to share with
you... Tahiti being a Francophone tropical island* I imagine that the
behaviour of the inhabitants on the road is reasonably similar to that
of the inhabitants of Reunion**. 

In which case, you are 100% right.  They wouldn't let a little thing
like 6m of snow influence their right to travel at 200 mph on a
single-carriageway road.  Hell, they don't let little things like 
juggernauts, floods, lava-flows, 200m cliffs, hairpin bends or traffic
jams slow 'em down; a little bit of snow would be a *challenge* to their
overdeveloped French egos.

!Peeve; French egos.  Vastly amusing, as are their perceptions of
British culture (specifically British food).

Eg.  (French person shrugs and pulls revolted face) "You ingleesh you
eat boiled meat and white sauce with *jam* for your dinner"***

(ho ho ho!  Extensive opportunities for Frog-baiting)

*Ok - so it's not the island that speaks French but the people that live
there.

**Gratuitous "I've been to paradise and was paid for the privilege"

***Note for French people - what are you *ON*?!!

Babs
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:11:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

> geoffm@netcom.com (Geoff Miller) writes:
>
>>Certainly those reasons are true, but there not the only reasons. 
>				       ^^^^^
>					(sp)
>

ObEastwood: nag, nag, nag

Peeve: spotting the mistake right after I'd sent the article.

OK - I'm not talking about crack at $5.  A very excellent book, "Blood Lust",
with tasteless and gory details of local serial murderer Dayton Leroy Rogers,
talks about the lives of hookers that Dayton met, many of them who had
$85/day cocaine habits.  I'm *not* saying prostitution to support their drug
addiction is a crime, but I *am* saying that other people who have such an
addiction to an expensive drug *do* resort to armed robbery and assault.

The issue I'm bringing out isn't whether crime is fun or whether it pays, it's
that a growing number of people are addicted to a drug to such a degree that
they will commit armed robbery or assault regardless of gun-control or any
other laws.

-Dave
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cauhape@twg.com (Jeff Cauhape x7147)
Subject: Re: KidZ ( was Another "I'm getting old" peeve)
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:02:34 GMT

In article <1k6hpjINN8j8@umbc4.umbc.edu> potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.192216.6447@twg.com> nolan@twg.com writes:
>>Good grief! What's with you youngsters, ennyhoo? I'm gonna be 49 in a few more
>>looks to be even better. I'm old enough that my hormones don't get in my way
>
>now isn't that strange. how the net plays tricks on one.
>i pictured you as the average hormone-driven college freshman.

Nolan isn't hormone-driven - he's STEAM POWERED! Just ask him about
narrow-gauge railways or double-action cylinders and _step_back_!

>
>wonder why.
>
>-l "maybe it was your posts" p
>
...

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From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:12:54 GMT
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.

In <1993Jan19.191853.27136@twg.com> donp@twg.com (Don Pette) writes:

>Hey Dac, I saw this underground video a while back called Dick and Spot.
>For some reason I imagined you in one of the lead roles.

And people at the tasteless fest said I looked a lot like Dick...

dac...dick...   bill...dick...

I guess dac wins.
From: jdare@math.rutgers.edu (James A. Dare)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:33:25 GMT
Organization: Institute for Advanced Mediocrity

cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:

>>In 1990, there were 46,300 motor vehicle accidents,
  [ ... ]
>>and only 1,400 firearms-related accidental deaths.  Another thing you
>>should know about that number is that it's HALF the number of accidents
>>from 1970, this despite a massive increase in the number of firearms out
>>there.

>But we don't *need* the guns.  If they weren't around, then that's 1400
>people that would still be here today. 

And that's 1400 more schmucks I'd have to put up with breathing my
air and eating my food!  To hell with 'em!  We don't need those 1400
bastards around here anyway!  It's 1993, man!  We've made it through
1991 and 1992 without those 1400 people, what the hell do we need them
for?  

Sheesh!

Oh, and Geoff:  04458 989 773209 5124!  8843401!


Jim
--
"Fast and bulbous!"  "That's right, the Mascara Snake: fast
and bulbous!  Also a tin tear drop!"  "Bulbous also tapered!"
("That's right!")
  
"Lillian!  The bitch is fallin' down the steps again!" 
					--Eddie Murphy
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: My trip out West (long)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 09:44:41 GMT
Organization: FizzBall Racing
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

jennyg@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Well Paid in Name Only) writes:
>Bandy makes good beer, and looks better in my "I Love Barbie" earrings 
>than I ever did.

I was actually waiting until you got back before I made any comments
about That Night.  I hate to say this Jenny, but that was the second
best party I've ever hosted. Definitely the best chunkstyle video
party.

Trying to describe it would be futile, so I'll just run down some of
the trivia for those keeping score at home.

First arrival: Jack Poller, 4:30 pm
Jenny's Arrival: 5:30 pm
Jenny's First word upon arriving: Boy, you're too tall to kiss very
	well.
Linda's departure: 6:15 pm
Dinner menu: Blackened catfish, potatoes, salad
Amount of salad consumed: none
First video viewed: The Quick and the Dead
Number of neighbors concerned about use of butane cannon: 1
Approximate last firing of butane cannon: 10:00 pm
Approximate number of dead bodies on video: 1000+
Number of dog orgasms on video: 1

Number of genital peircings displayed/demonstrated: 2
Number of articles of underwear removed and autographed: 3
Number of bodies marked in indelible ink: 5+

What's written on Bill Berbernich's butt: "Rated R -- Nobody under
	17 admitted without parent."
What's written on Larry Colen's right nipple: "colder"
What's written on Jenny G's right nipple: "hot"
(Their left nipples say the same thing, left as an exercise for the
reader.)

Maximum attendance: 19 people
Number of people staying overnight: 6
Number of couples staying overnight: 2
Number of couples wondering if they had woken me up: 2
Does Jenny scream: yes
Number of couples using the shower when I had to piss: 2
Number of couples that didn't know/care: 2

Amount of beer purchased for party: 2 cases
Amount of big-three doemstic beer purchaed: none
Amount of beer consumed: unknown
Number of people bringing beer: too many
Notable exception: bandy and his keg of homebrew
Number of big-three domestic six-packs brought: 1
Amount of beer remainimg the following morning: 37 bottles
Number of bottles of big-three domestic beer: 5
Amount of beer dumped down the sink: 5 bottles

Linda's return: 5:20 pm, the following evening
Latest departure: Bill Berbenich, 10:00 pm the following eveing

Number of people who know what Jenny's tits look like on drugs: 1

And finally, the trivia question:  How much adjustment is there on
Jenny G's knobs?

drew
banta@abigndon.sun.com

--
"The only sports are auto racing and bull fighting, all the rest are games."

						--Ernest Hemingway
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: geoffm@netcom.com (Geoff Miller)
Subject: Re: Nonsensical songs
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:54:12 GMT



In article <1993Jan20.230954.25860@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com 
(Don Baldwin) writes:

>Recently, Gillian was going through some of her old records(*) and happened
>across the Don McLain (?) album containing "American Pie".  

It's "Maclean," pronounced "McCleen."  I have the <gasp> 45 around 
someplace, along with "I Think I Love You" by the Partridge Family,
"Signs" by the Five man Electrical Band, and a host of various small
records with green apples on the labels.


>She put on Vincent, the song about the late, looney Vincent van Gogh.

Is that who that song's about?  I could never figure that out.  But then,
I don't know much about art, although I know what I like.  Unable to
think of a real-life person the lyrics seemed to fit, I finally decided
it was about some fictitious character known only to Maclean.  Of course,
I'd never even heard of Buddy Holly until I read somewhere that American Pie
was supposed to be about his death.

I always liked that NatLamp cover with a parody of Van Gogh's self portrait,
in which the artist is depicted with a bandage around his head and his 
ear in his hand with a banana in it.

Peeve:  Callous irreverence.


>Peeve:  Songs that sound nice but don't make any sense.

Peeve: People who sing popular songs and get the lyrics wrong.  

Another Peeve:  People who sing while wearing a Walkman.

Yet a Third Peeve:  People who wear Walkmen into bookstores with the volume
		    cranked up enough to annoy those around them.

!Peeve:  They'll probably go deaf at an early age.


Geoff
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: FauxNoWhere (Was: Living in the Middle of Nowhere)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:52:47 GMT

<In article <93021.105044SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> Sonja Kueppers <SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

<Most of the time, I like living in the middle of nowhere.
 
	Sounds good to me. More and more I find myself
	wishing I could live "in the middle of nowhere".

<However, just recently it's been getting on my nerves. 
<I am delighted that my relatives want to give me china, silver, and
<crystal for my upcoming wedding.  

	ObPeeve: bribes given to post-adolescents so they will
	get a State-Sex-License.

<Of course, they want to know which *patterns* of these things to give
<us.  

	ObArchaicism: Tell 'em, "Oh, anything that goes good with
	'trails'".

<This would normally be fun.

	ObPeeve: people who think shopping for bribes is "fun".

<Unfortunately, I live in the Middle of Nowhere.  There is exactly one
<store in this area which sells china, crystal, and silver.  


	FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!

	Honey, you-uns don't live anywhere NEAR the "middle of
	nowhere" if there's a store that sells that kinda junk.

	"Middle of Nowhere" means you drive, oh, more than 20
	milese (32km) to get to the first place that sells
	bread, soft drinks and newspapers.

	"Middle of Nowhere" means there ain't a china/silver/stuff
	store within, oh, 100 to 200 miles (160 to 320km). 

	There's places like that in Nuevo Mexico, and I ain't
	tellin' where they are, neither.

[Fauxness deleted]
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Bennet Cerf)
Subject: Re: Literary peeves    was Re: My trip out West
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Literary Guild
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:37:14 GMT


In article <1993Jan26.035431.611@netcom.com>, obrien@netcom.com 
(No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB) writes:
[deleted]

	Peeve:  That I never even *heard of* Ayn Rand until College.

When I read Rand in high school I thought her stuff was a bit juvenile. Since
then I've advanced to being certain that it's more than a bit juvenile. It's a
preadolescent attempt at existentialism, actually.

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Originator: bickham@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:32:25 GMT

From article <1k7p8nINN5sg@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU>, by yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin):
> shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton) writes:

> The word is "terminal velocity", creep.  And it has little to do with the
> speed of sound.

Yeah, yeah, tell me about it.  I realized my error as soon as I posted,
but of course it was already too late.  I think the terminal velocity is
somewhere around 120 miles/hour, which is pretty small compared to most
muzzle velocities.  I think the original point was that it isn't very
bright firing straight up into the air - just look at the damage in Iraq
from the tracer bullets and anti-aircraft fire.

Scott "Just gimme a Tomahawk cruise missile" Bickham
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:38:24 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <1jrrl6INNlh6@titan.ucs.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucs.umass.edu
(Well Paid in Name Only) writes:
>Having spent a great deal of time in California with big burly men who own
>firearms (and a couple of skinny emaciated men who own firearms) I've

FYI, I also know some womanly women who have firearms; they however seem
loathe to go public about it, as men do.

>actually discussed this topic quite a bit.  The immediate assumption made
>when I say that I think it should be difficult for people to get guns is
>that I think that this will somehow keep weapons from the hands of criminals
>or psychopaths.  Of course not.  So far we have no good method of distinguish-
>ing criminals and psychopaths from normal folk.  At least, not the really
>dangerous ones.
>
>Idiots, however, are a different question all together.  Idiots can be
>spotted fairly easily.  And people who are not idiots per se, but have
>large pockets of idiocy within them, can have it explained to them before
>they try to use a gun.

You're talking accidents here, right?  It's already been pointed out that
the accident trend is on the decline...

>Atually, Banta was most helpful.  He told me this neat trick that really seemed
>to make a difference - he said "Before you fire the gun, aim it."  I probably
>wouldn't come up with a sound strategy like that until I'd had years of
>practice.

Also keep your finger OUTSIDE of the trigger guard until you have aimed it.
But, to continue...

>So I say, make people prove they ain't idjits, and make sure they get training
>from big men with lots of testosterone before setting 'em loose with weapons.

I am 100% for safety training, I'm just not willing to see it mandated by
poiticians.  Some financial incentive (e.g., rebate) provided by gun makers
seems ideal to me!

>ObPeeve: I'll be 29 on Wednesday, and am therefore nearly at the end of
>the trustable period of my life.

Feh, a mere child.  I'l be 33 in September...

    don
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Inauguration Parade Coverage (Was: Statistical bullshit)
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:28:42 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <ATAYLOR.93Jan22093455@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
writes:
>ObPeeve: politics on alt.peeves.

Seems kind of natural to me, actually.  What could be more peevesome than
politics/politicians?

    don
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:45:47 GMT
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.

In <lluguqINN49r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce) writes:

>What gets me is that I can't buy land mines or hand grenades.

Can't you?

I got some good toe-poppers I can get from a little old Iraqi I know...
From: dre@catnip.Berkeley.CA.US (Bugger All)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:18:02 GMT

bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce) writes:

>What gets me is that I can't buy land mines or hand grenades.

Well, you're one of those fucking Canuks, what do you expect?