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From: dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott)
Subject: Re: Noooooooooo!!!!!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:51:32 GMT

In article <64109@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler) writes:
>In <1992Jul22.033309.27982@news.nd.edu> jortiz@thomas.helios.nd.edu (The Candyman) writes:
>
>>The Braves traded the immortal Juan Berenguer for
                        ^^^^^^^ :-) :-) :-)!!!
>>Mark Davis'$$$ contract.  Apparently John Schuerholz
>>still believes in the 1989 N.L. Cy Young award
>>winner.  I don't.  Even though I'm not into stats,

>What is "the word"(TM) on Davis?  Damaged goods?  Bad Attitude?
>Wrong City?  Lack of chances?  Too old?
>Come on you guys in KC.  And, oh yea you got guys just saved
>some money for a nice flat-fastball-rightie.  Thank you.

Most of his problems in KC were due to control.  His W/IP numbers were ugly
all 3 years there.  He's not really that old, and really hasn't been used
much this year (he once went over 2 weeks between appearances).  Maybe a
return to the NL will help, but I wouldn't count on much.

He's in the last year of his contract, so you won't have to eat his salary
if he doesn't work out.

>>This is a big gamble for Shuerholz, the Braves
>>need to solidify a struggling bullpen, but it
>>seems counter-intuitive to do so with a struggling pitcher.
>
>If Cox follows form he is put him in the first middle relief
>chance that comes along.  Now lets sit back and watch the
>Mecker/Stanton situation for the closing lefties.

That's about the only place he has a chance to succeed.  Good luck.
Schuerholz must really like this guy.  After all, he was the one who signed
him for KC 3 years ago!

I just wich KC could have gotten a prospect instead of Berenguer.  This was
a double-dumping, with both sides taking the first offer that came along.


Dave Elliott
From: stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu (Steve Jascourt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cardinal 15 protected
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:51:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Meteorology and Space Science

What about Joe Magrane? 

Several people commented on this article, but nobody mentioned anything about
Magrane. Isn't he do back soon?

In article <UeP0Z6_00iUy41CpUi@andrew.cmu.edu> Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Does anyone have any speculation as to whom the Cardinals are going to
>protect?
>Ray Lankford
>Felix Jose
>Brian Jordan
>Todd Zeile
>Tom Pagnozzi
>Donavan Osborne
>Mike Perez
>Omar Olivares
>Bob Tewksbury
>Lee Smith
>
>John Ericks should be considered, but his numbers last year were aweful.
>Geronimo Pena is injured, so his health will be a factor.
>Mark Clark progress well last season going from AA to the Bigs.
>Rheal Cormier has excellent control (8 BB in 68 IP)  Not dominating.
>John Kelly had a 1.38 ERA and 1.00 H&W Ratio with 30 Saves.  He is leading the
>       Texas league in save this year with 26.
>Rod Brewer - they've been waiting a while on this guy. But has 13 HR and
>65 RBI.
>Rigo Beltran is 6-1 with a 1.98 ERA.  Struck out 178 in 139 IP over last 2 yrs.
>Allen Watson is another strikeout pitcher with great control-Why doesn't
>he win?
>Ozzie Canseco is an old prospect but is hitting a lot of homeruns.
>
>Out of those guys I'd probably say....
>
>Mark Clark
>Rigo Beltran
>Allen Watson
>John Kelly
>Rheal Cormier
>
>Don't be surprised if they leave Lee Smith or Bob Tewksbury unprotected
>or trade them before the end of this season so they can protect Ericks
>and Brewer.
>
>-Todd

Stephen Jascourt   stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: Herzog Seen Shopping In Syracuse
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 05:59:38 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico

In article <1992Jul24.143618.28693@epas.toronto.edu> binkley@epas.utoronto.ca (P. Binkley) writes:
>BW says the Jays are "reportedly" interested in Tim Fortugno, just
>called up fom AAA, who pitched against Toronto on Monday (5 2/3 IP, 5
>H, 3 R).  Does anyone know anything about him?
>
>Peter Binkley
>binkley@epas.utoronto.ca

Fortugno is a 31 year old (maybe 30) reliever who has never gotten much respect
in the Milwaukee organization despite striking out 11.5 (eleven point five) men
per nine innings for his minor league career. I.E. 11% better than Tom Henke,
and 20% better than Nolan Ryan.  He was a Rule V draftee by California.  Still, 
he's 30...

-- 
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I AM a Junior Stathead.  Flame me; it's fun!  I'm a shutmouthed, selfless idiot!
Latest Attempted Compiler of the R.S.BB FAQ - Now Accepting Submissions...(hint)
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From: gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Spike Owen
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:15:28 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

In article  <3436@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>Owen is hurt?  Does this mean that Wil Cordero will be brought up?

Owen's injury is day to day (he was not put on the DL).  I don't think
the Expos will call up Cordero right now.  Cordero is just coming back
from an injury at AAA.  He played his first game last night after
sitting out for two weeks with a severly bruised knuckle which was
first feared broken.  He has been hitting well at AAA, but has made
errors at an alarming rate.  He will probably be called up in
September, but not before then unless Owen is put on the DL or the
Expos fall out of contention.

Carl
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From: jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy)
Subject: Timothy Leary's dead (was Re: What happened to Leary???)
Organization: The Lu Foundation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:54:31 GMT

In article <29JUL199213445493@pierre.mit.edu>, kettler@pierre.mit.edu
(KETTLER, THOMAS R.) writes:
|> >In article <1992Jul28.190829.27445@europa.asd.contel.com>, king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry "Pensacola, you're on with..." King) 
writes...
|> >>	Does anyone know what happened to Tim Leary from the Yankees.

|> 		W-L 	ERA	IP	 H	 R	ER	HR	BB    K
|> 
|> Tim Leary	5-6	5.23	93	77	56	54	 8	52   33
|> Jim Acker	0-0	5.28    30.2	45	19	18	 4	12   11

At least our pal Ack has a respectable K/BB ratio.  Leary has a RESPECTABLE
BB/K ratio!  Maybe we do need a Tim Leary bitmap to replace the Acker one for
our backgrounds.

...and I love the Showalter quote.

|> 
|> 					Sincerely yours,
|> 
|> 					Thomas R. Kettler "Expos Fanatic"

Expos fans coming out of the woodwork (Flame retardant jumpsuit on)  It was only
a matter of time.	:-)

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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: True Blue Brew Crew in '92!
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:43:53 GMT

Since I've been hit (hard!) by the Pennant Fever bug, I feel the need to
get some things out of my system before they dissipate completely. First,   
since they've tormented us for the past few years, a quote for the playoff 
hopes of the White Sox and their obnoxious fans.

"Nah Nah Nah Nah, Nah Nah Nah Nah, hey, hey, goodbye!" ;)

Second, at this very moment, Jaime Navarro is the best pitcher in major
league baseball. To say he's in a "zone" would be an understatement.

Third, if it weren't for injuries, Paul Molitor would be known as the second
best leadoff hitter ever (some guy named Rickey comes to mind) and would
be a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame.

Fourth, Molitor, Bill Wegman, Doug henry, and Jim Gantner could make    
anyone's all-underrated team and that's a shame.

Fifth, the Brewers finished the last 69 games of last year at 40-19, the
best in the majors. If they went 36-18 the rest of the way, they'd duplicate
that feat and end up at 90-72, which would at least keep them in the pennant
race. And that would make me very happy because it would give me another few
weeks before I had to start thinking about the Bucks and Packers and their
(mis)fortunes!

--Salty


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From: exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson)
Subject: Re: Sexy Baseball Players
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:20:06 GMT

In article <131448@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> lisa@zeppelin.llnl.gov (Lisa Corsetti) writes:
>Path: exucom.exu.ericsson.se!ericom!sunic!mcsun!uunet!sun-barr!ames!lll-winken!zeppelin!lisa
>From: lisa@zeppelin.llnl.gov (Lisa Corsetti)
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
>Subject: Re: Sexy Baseball Players
>Message-ID: <131448@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>
>Date: 24 Jul 92 23:07:49 GMT
>References: <1992Jul17.005530.11690@seas.smu.edu>
>Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV
>Reply-To: lisa@zeppelin.llnl.gov (Lisa Corsetti)
>Organization: Climate Model Intercomparison Group, LLNL
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>Nntp-Posting-Host: zeppelin.llnl.gov

>In article <1992Jul17.005530.11690@seas.smu.edu> marley@seas.smu.edu (Elisabeth Anne Marley) writes:
>>
>>My vote is for Rob Dibble.
>>


>Okay, I'll vote one for Dennis Eckersley. :)




>   "There's no beginning, no ending. There's just infinite
>    passion of life."

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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: RC/27 for CFs
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:13:52 GMT
Organization: Boo!  

In <1992Jul21.153228.1782@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>In article <1992Jul17.190453.27517@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul17.171031.3741@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>>In article <1992Jul15.043655.20632@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>>>AMERICAN LEAGUE
>>>>Kirby Puckett, Minnesota	7.84
>>>
>>>Not bad for a "consistently overrated player".
>>
>>It is definitely excellent.  However, he is overrated in the sense that if you
>>are listening to the mediots, they would say that he's one of the best
>>offensive players in baseball, which he isn't.  He is one of the best
>>offensive *CFs*, for sure.

>He not one of the best offensive players? He's got a higher SLG, more HR, 
>about the same OBP, more 2bs, 3bs, and SBs than Bobby Bonilla, who we were told
>*IS* one of the best offensive players in the game (at least in refutation of
>Mr Galvanek's arguments), but BB is one of the best, and Puckett is NOT?

Mike, give us a break.  Puckett has clearly been one of the top offensive
performers in the game this year (even after park effects are taken into
account).  But you can't judge how good an offensive player Puckett is
based just on how he has performed this year.  You have to take his performance
over the last few years into account (including this year), and use that to
judge exactly what kind of player Puckett is.  And, under those guidelines,
there is no way that Puckett is one of the best offensive performers in the 
game.        

And once again, no one in the Bonilla thread really claimed that Bonilla
was on of the top offensive players in the game.  All that was said is that
his offensive performance in the first half was on of the top 5 offensive
performances by NL outfielders in the first half.  But I would certainly
argue that he's a better offensive player than Puckett, even though Puckett
has outperformed him so far this year (though when you take into account
park effects, its pretty close).

Greg 
-- 
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From: wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Home Run Derby TV show
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:29:14 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

a while ago ESPN aired some old reruns of the circa
1961 Home Run Derby TV show.

Yesterday I had a little barroom discusion about where
that show took place.  I said it was from the old Wrigley
Field in Los Angeles.  Others said it was from old Forbes
Field in Pittsburgh.

If anyone knows for sure, please do let me know. 

Thanks!

-- Ward Larkin
   wlarkin@panix.com
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From: king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King)
Subject: Fours are wild!!!
Organization: GTE/SCSD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:30:45 GMT

I thought this was an interesting twist of the numbers...

Saberhagen last night had the following line...

4 IP, 4 hits, 4 runs, 4 ER, 4 BB, 4 SO.

He was replaced by pitcher Tom Filer who wears number 44.  He should
really think about the lottery at this point...

--
Larry King
GTE Government Systems, Needham, MA    		(617) 455-3384 
E-Mail : king%ssvax.dnet@get.com
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Indians/Twins  Game-9
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:33:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19296
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo

A costly throwing error by an Indian outfielder helped 
the Twins in the bottom of the 9th to win this nail
biter over the Indians. With no one out and with
Puckett on 2and and Hrbek on 1st, Chilli's fly ball
was caught at CF and the outfielder instead of throwing
to 3rd to get the tagging runner, threw to second. The
score was tied 1-1 at that time. However, Harper drove
in the winning run.

Both Nagy and Smiley had a good outing. Nagy surrendered
his run in the bottom of the 3rd and the Smiley who
was cruising in the top of the 9th with 2 outs and no one
on, pintch hitter Thomas Howard came to the plate and
hit a gaint of a solo homer to tie the ball-game at 1-1. 
This should have been a heart cruncher
for Smiley. Before that Puckett had a jumping catch off the
centre field wall to rob Bell of extra bases. 

However, the offence won it for him and helped him get his
10th win(10-4). Nagy took the tough loss and is 11-5.

The Twins open up a 4 game series with Boston at Fenway
tomorrow. Game-9 will be a rematch of game-7, Scott Erickson
versus Rocket. The Twins have also activated Pitcher Paul Abott
and Mike Pagliarulo from the minors. Reboulet and Gary Wayne
are being sent back to Portland.

S.H
Win or lose; Twins forever...
From: karlf@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Karl Fengler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Bo-sox schedule anyone????? ; Please...
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:29:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID


Anyway, could ANYONE please MAIL me a home schedule for the red sox 
for their weekend games, from july 31 till about the end of august.
I will be in new england for this period of time, and will only have time 
of during the weekend. So, that should explain it. Please help


THank EwE Vewy  Mush     -Menno
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July    31 August  1,  2  vs Baltimore
August  21, 22, 23        vs Seattle


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From: kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu (Dave Nobody Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Value of Stats
Organization: Dominican Deities - Juan Guzman levitation branch
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:18:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.030944.22822@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (roger 'worshipper of the great almighty Saturn' maynard) writes:
>In <1992Jul24.222433.4535@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri 'NL' Nichols) writes:
>>To me, that's the entire key.  All opinions are *not* equally valid.
>>You're perfectly entitled to hold the opinion that Luis Salazar is a more
>>valuable player than Barry Bonds, but if you want to have a prayer of
>>convincing anyone else of that, then you'd better bring some supporting
>>evidence along.  
>
>Forget about Salazar.  Who would you rather have: Bonds or Puckett?  Playing
>for an underdog Kirby has two rings. 

  Yeah, Roger's right, you guys are all just a bunch of steaming
chowderheads. I mean, any steenking fool can see that the reason the Tigers 
aren't running away with the AL East is cuz Dan Gladden hasn't been healthy.
If he was his normal fiery TWG self, the Tigers would be leaving the Jays and
the Orioles in their dust. Then again, maybe Gladden and his two fingers with
banded metal aren't doing the rah-rah job they could be from the bench. 
 
  P.S. Why do I get the feeling Roger is a big fan of a certain opera which 
takes several days to fully appreciate? 

-- 
Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch       "Blue Jays all the way in '92"
kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu                                      Jeff Kent for ROY
"Try new Fortenberry wine coolers, with a biting, bitter taste" - Noel Steere
Slanguage dictionary: maynard - "to insult with disdain and contempt"
From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: .300/.400/.500 seasons back-to-back
Keywords: The Big Hurt
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:25:25 GMT
Organization: Factors of Ys, Inc.

OK, here's the promised list of the last few players to post back-to-back
seasons with AVG/OBP/SLG of .300/.400/.500 or better.  Since 1960, we have

	Mickey Mantle		'61, '62, '63, '64
	Frank Robinson		'61, '62, '66, '67, '69, '70
	Ron Santo		'66, '67  (also '64)
	Roberto Clemente	'69, '70  (also '67)
	Joe Morgan		'75, '76

Overall, 55 different players have achieved .300/400/.500 since 1960.  They
are

	Mickey Mantle (9 times, 4 after 1960)

	Frank Robinson (6 times)

	Al Kaline (3)
	Ron Santo (3)
	Roberto Clemente (3)
	
	Eddie Mathews (2, one after 1960)
	Hank Aaron (2, one after 1960)
	Carl Yastrzemski (2)
	Rod Carew (2)
	Reggie Smith (2)
	Dick Allen (2)
	George Brett (2)
	Fred Lynn (2)
	Jeff Burroughs (2)
	Pedro Guerrero (2)
	Joe Morgan (2)
	Eddie Murray (2)
	Rickey Henderson (2)

	Frank Thomas		Fred McGriff		Will Clark
	Lonnie Smith		Wade Boggs		Mike Greenwell
	Paul Molitor		Alan Trammell		Dwight Evans
	Tim Raines		Tony Gwynn		Keith Hernandez
	Mike Schmidt		Jason Thompson		Ken Singleton
	Sixto Lezcano		Pete Rose		Mitchell Page
	Carlton Fisk		Ted Simmons		Bill Madlock
	Bobby Murcer		Willie Stargell		Billy Williams
	Tony Perez		Joe Torre		Rico Carty
	Norm Cash		Dick Dietz		Jim Hickman
	Willie McCovey		Rusty Staub		Orlando Cepeda
	Jim Gentile		Wally Moon		Ken Boyer

7 different players made it in 1987, 7 in 1970, 7 in '61, 6 in '77,
6 in '67, and 5 in '69.
	

-- 
        David M. Tate        | "And that inverted Bowl we call The Dome
   dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu   |  Whereunder crawling coop'd we field and bat,
   Edward "Mike" Fitzgerald  |     Lift not your eyes to *it* for help--for it
     from "The Ruthaiyat"    |  Will drop the tow'ring fly upon your hat."
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From: nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim)
Subject: Dodgers 9, Mets 2
Organization: Fordham University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Dodgers
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:41:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: mary.fordham.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

     I was very glad to see the Dodgers offense wake up yesterday
at Shea in the late innings.  (Or was it just the Mets Franco-less
bullpen?  :-) )

    It is interesting to note that the Mets had 9 hits, but *none*
in the inning in which they scored their two runs:  With one out, 
error by Sharperson (at 3B) on grounder.  Two walks followed.  Gott
relieved Gross.  Hojo struck out, BUT two of the pitches at which he
swung were wild.  Two runs scored, and he reached first base on the
3rd-strike-WP.  (By the time he swung at strike three, the first wild
pitch had made first base unoccupied.) Murray grounded into a DP to end 
the inning.  

    Question:  Has anyone ever struck out with the bases loaded and 
had *all 3* runners score during the K?  If not, Hojo is at least tied
for the dubious record of runners-scored-while-you-whiff.  

-Leonard Nissim, nDf (notorious Dodger fanatic) 
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From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Subject: Address for ChiSox?
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 02:10:41 GMT


     A cousin of mine (6YO) wants to write Bo Jackson and get his autograph;
would I just say to write in care of the ChiSox?  What is their new
address in the new Comiskey - please e-mail, and in the next 12 hours.
I don't need 30 e-mials in my box.
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu      :    "Every baby born into the world is
Real home: Canton, Ohio             :  finer than the last."--Charles Dickens
 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain
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