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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Underline font
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:51:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: vidiot.3256
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <FJ.92Apr13112734@loke.iesd.auc.dk> fj@iesd.auc.dk (Frank Jensen) writes:
<In article <3245@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<
<   In article <1992Apr7.024443.20428@serval.net.wsu.edu> hakimian@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff) writes:
<   <This may be a stupid question, but how do you under line a word in a particular
<   <font?
<   <
<   <What I hope the answer is not is to draw a line under it. Fonts seem to come
<   <with underline information built in (ie. underline postion and underline width).
<   <How do you use this information.
<
<   You draw a line under it.  Sorry, but PostScript fonts do not have underline
<   stuff in them, only the info about the character itself.
<
<Not quite correct.  Here is the top portion of Utopia-Regular:
<
<%!PS-AdobeFont-1.0: Utopia-Regular 001.001
<%%CreationDate: Wed Oct  2 19:10:38 1991
<%%VMusage: 32987 39879
<%% Utopia is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated.
<11 dict begin
</FontInfo 10 dict dup begin
</version (001.001) readonly def
</Notice (Copyright (c) 1989, 1991 Adobe Systems Incorporated.  All Rights Reserved.Utopia is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated.) readonly def
</FullName (Utopia Regular) readonly def
</FamilyName (Utopia) readonly def
</Weight (Regular) readonly def
</ItalicAngle 0 def
</isFixedPitch false def
</UnderlinePosition -100 def
</UnderlineThickness 50 def
<end readonly def
<
<The FontInfo dictionary for the font may contain UnderlinePosition and
<UnderlineThickness.  The Adobe Font Metric Files Specification Version
<3.0 has the following to say about this info:
<
<UnderlinePosition number
<
<(Optional.)  Distance from the baseline for centering underlining
<strokes. This may be interpreted as a y-displacement for writing
<direction 0, and an x-displacement for writing direction 1.
<
<UnderlineThickness number
<
<(Optional.)  This is the stroke width for underlining, expressed in
<character coordinate space (proportional to the characters in the font
<program.)

All well and good.  Notice how it says (optional), not much good if it isn't
there.  My point was that each individual character doesn't have information
directly related to underlining.  That is what I believe the original poster
asked for.  You can obtain many things about a particular character, but
underlining doesn't appear to be one of them.

All relative I guess.
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: taft@adobe.com (Ed Taft)
Subject: Re: Getting chromacity data from level 2 printers
Keywords: Chromacity CIE XYZ PostScript level2
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:09:26 GMT

In article <4566@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> lilleyc@cs.man.ac.uk (Chris Lilley) writes:
>A) The interpreter must store the CIE chromacity (xy) or tristimulus
>(X,Y,Z) values for its inks internally.

This information is not represented directly, since inks typically do not
mix as color theory would predict. Instead, the calibration is embodied in
a color rendering dictionary. In the red book, see section 6.1, "CIE-Based
Color to Device Color". This mechanism provides substantial control over the
conversion from CIE values to device colorants, optionally including a full
3-D lookup table.

Each color printer has one or more default color rendering dictionaries
built-in. How this calibration was performed is not documented and in some
cases is proprietary to the printer manufacturer. There are companies whose
business is to provide tools and techniques for color calibration.

>B) what happens if you specify a colour that is outside the printer gamut?

This is under the control of the gamut mapping function, which is part of
the color rendering dictionary. This is where transformations such as gamut
compression, white point matching, clipping, and certain other operations
occur.

>C) what happens if you specify a coordinate that isn't even a colour?

I imagine the gamut mapping function will treat it as out-of-gamut and will
clip it, but this depends on the contents of the color rendering dictionary.
Once again, the PostScript language provides general mechanisms for color
conversion, but it does not prescribe policies to be applied in specific
cases.
-- 
Ed Taft      taft@adobe.com      ...decwrl!adobe!taft
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: ron@pageworks.com (Ron Creamer)
Subject: Group 3 FAX -> PS Level 2 w/ CCITTFaxDecode
Reply-To:  ()
Organization: PageWorks Electronic Publishing Centers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:44:24 GMT
Keywords: fax postscript CCITTFaxDecode CCITTFaxEncode

Has anyone taken a Group 3 fax file, the type that comes in from
fax modems and wrapped it into a PS file by calling the
CCITTFaxDecode filter new in PS level 2?

Presently we use a fax2ps filter that blows up a 40k file
to nearly 1 meg (bitmap to hex, etc.). This causes a lot of
unneccesary net traffic and overall slowness. If I read this
filter correctly, I should be able to write a shell script
or c program to wrap this small fax file into a PS job and
call the CCITTFaxDecode filter to "blow it up" at the rip,
increasing speed and reducing net traffic.

I understand that this is specific to PS level 2 printers but
if anyone has done this before I'd appreciate the help. I will
be happy to post the resulting filter to the net if there is
enough interest.

Please contact me by e-mail <ron@pageworks.com>
Thanks


Ron Creamer
PageWorks, 36 JFK Street, Cambridge, MA 02138
ron@pageworks.com (617/868-2943)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: ledwards@nsf.gov (Larry Edwards)
Subject: Re: How to convert PS to EPS???
Keywords: PostScript, WordPerfect
Reply-To: ledwards@nsf.gov
Organization: National Science Foundation
Distribution: us
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:08:26 GMT

Ralf Bergs writes:
I _HAVE_ to convert .PS-output to .EPS so that I can include it
into Word Perfect documents.

We just followed the WordPerfect (5.0) menu options and incorporated the  
straight PostScript code.  It works fine.  I did have to scale the original  
form because WordPerfect doesn't allow a full 8 1/2 x 11.  It automatically  
puts margins in of 1/4 inch, I think.
Larry Edwards
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: psroff generates huge files
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:37:48 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <JJC.92Apr12114305@jclark.com> jjc@jclark.com (James Clark) writes:
>I did a little test to compare the sizes of output generated by psroff
>and groff.  Here are the sizes of the PostScript output generated for
>the perl man page:

>psroff R3 PL10           562627
>  (optimization on)
>groff 1.05               305141
>groff 1.05               280310
>  (no pairwise kerning)  

>One difference is that groff can output multiple words in a single
>`show'.

That much?  Eeep!

Scramble scramble, type type.

Psroff PL11 will do line optimization - it's working already.
It can reduce the output by as much as 55%.

Egods tho, CAT troff refuses to read the width tables for the width
of space.  Oh crud.  At least this won't be a problem with gtroff
or ditroff.  On the other hand, this may be why a few people have
remarked that psroff's inter-word spacing is a little nicer (troff uses
1/3 point size for space width.  Postscript's space width is 1/3rd
narrower (12/432 @ 6 point versus 9/432 @ 6 point))

Was that with fill and justification on?

H'm.  Trying to steal my laserjet drivers are you?

[Just kidding!]
-- 
Chris Lewis; clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca; Phone: Canada 613 832-0541
Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: diesel@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Bruce Diesel )
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: QUATTRO PRO 4, WINDOWS 3.1 AND PACIFIC PAGE HP LASER
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:31:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: odie.diesel.6
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).

HELP!

I'm running Quattro Pro version 4 from within windows and attempting to 
print to a HP Laserjet II with a Pacific Page cartridge (over a Novell 
network). The problem I'm experiencing is that everything geets to the 
printer (even the printer server says the job is finished and the printer 
then "hangs".

Is there an incompatibility with the Pacific Page and the postscript put out 
by Quattro? By the way quattro is set up to print to a Apple Laserwriter 
Plus.

Thanks in advance....
Bruce
From: fenrich@acsu.buffalo.edu (Richard Fenrich)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Program to calculate bounding box information
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:30:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo / CEDAR Research Group

I intend to use psfig and TeX together but, some of the postscript 
generating tools that I have do not give %% BoundingBox a b c d 
in the postscript header.

Is there a program that can take a postscript file as input
and output accurate bounding box coordinates of the postscript objects?

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Richard Fenrich
fenrich@cs.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: jmo@courant.princeton.edu (Mike Orszag)
Subject:  Postscript Examples
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 12:36:56 GMT

I was wondering if there was anyplace which had copies of the example
programs in the Postscript manuals.
From: games@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Any experiences with NEC Silentwriter 2 Model 95 printer?
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:42:12 GMT

In article <1338@nlbull.bull.nl>, jos@bull.nl (Jos Vos) writes:
> NEC has released their Silentwriter 2 model 95 PostScript level 2
> laserprinter (which is sold in some countries as type S62P,
> being nearly the same, except for some small details).
> 
> Do you have any good or bad experiences with this printer?

Apart from taking it apart in front of a salesman at a trade show (he
was very suprised, but afterwards we ordered 3 from him that we don't
have in the door yet), I have no real experience.

However, mechanically it is superior in that the unit has the paper tray
in the bottom, so that you don't hit the thing like in the model 90.
This means that for people who either change to legal often, or have to
put in multiple copies of forms often, this is a disadvantage.  For
less often it looks like the single sheet feeder is better as well.
You can flip a switch on the back, and have the paper feed out there
now to fall into a bin in back, presumable for large documents, where it
didn't really stack that well.

In terms of emulation, it now supports the HP LJ III as opposed to the brain
dead II.  I asked if it would remember downloaded fonts permanently, and
the sales guy didn't know.  The menu is a little better, and actually
what makes it that way is that it is longer.  There are more options
in various places.  He could not explain the one that said something
like "8 wire RS232" as opposed to "RS232", I can only assume that it
runs some of the traditional signals a little differently.  I really
like having the cartridge slots on the side.  We have some HP cartridges
lying around, and we also have a downloadable barcode font for the HP
only, (I need one for postscript but don't have it yet.), and so we will
be using them in hp mode when we print things that need barcodes on them.

I have NO performance data whatsoever, but in terms of appearances,
and physical things, it is a nice machine, and for us, it will do
better than the old 2 model 90's.

(Oh, yeah, they have said that they will build a FAX board for this model.
whether that is send from computer, receive only or whether it includes a
scanner head remains to be seen.)

			John Stevens-Schlick
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: smikes@kathy.jpl.nasa.gov (303-302a)
Subject: PS EPS
Followup-To: PS -> EPS
Keywords: EPS
Reply-To: smikes@kathy.jpl.nasa.gov (303-302a)
Organization: Jpl.Nasa.Gov
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:32:40 GMT

	I have been following the converter issues for the last few days
and It seems to me that EPS is PS but with special comments.  Well
what are these special comments !!!!!!!!!  I have a program
I developed that output postscript.. It has no comments in it so I know 
its not EPS.  I would like to incoorportant changed in the code so
that it is EPS.  I have a program that will take EPS files and put them 
2 or 4 etc on one printed page.    I am not a postscript person and EPSI and 
some of the other acronyms are unknown to me.  

	I would like to do this with as little time learning EPS as possible
or it won't get done before the deliverable.  Thanks in advance !!


						Steven C. Mikes
						smikes@kathy.jpl.nasa.gov
						Jet Propulsion Laboratory



Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: cyoon@utdallas.edu (Chang K. Yoon)
Subject: pcx->gif or pcx->ps converter
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:24:58 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get a pcx to gif converter or a pcx to PostScript
converter?  If so, please leave me email telling where I can get it.  I have
ftp ability.  Thanks!


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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: schmidt@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (Eric Schmidt)
Subject: poscript/idl compatability
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:14:58 GMT

I have a curious problem.  I'm hosting an NCD19c X-Term from a Sun SPARCstation
and running IDL (PV-WAVE).  When I convert thermal images on-screen from B&W to
W&B (invert 0-255 range), the display shows me the correct image, but the
Postscript file printed via an HP Laserjet III has the default colors (B&W).
Also, the first time I output an image, I get a default-color, quarter-size pic.
HELP!!  I'm stuck & need any input I can get to figure this out.  It's not a
simple background color problem.

Please send e-mail with suggestions.

Thanks,
Eric Schmidt
Internet:  schmidt@sunset.larc.nasa.gov


Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: e-sink@uiuc.edu (Eric W. Sink)
Subject: Re: Ghostscript for Mac?
Originator: sink@sunb2.cs.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: e-sink@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:15:39 GMT

In <1992Apr14.120046.22872@panix.com> spencer@panix.com (David Spencer) writes:

>The gs2.4 README (or one of the *.doc) says something about a mac gs
>available by ftp. (Shocked me, too.) If I were at home, I'd look it
>up. Does someone have it handy? Put it in the FAQ!

The existing Ghostscript port for the Mac is probably NOT what you
are looking for.  I believe gs2.4 contain a command to generate a ppm
file from PostScript.  Well, the gs2.4 port for the Mac contains a
command to generate an Adobe Photoshop file.  There is no Macintosh
driver.

-- 
Eric W. Sink,  Spatial Analysis and Systems Team
USACERL, P.O. Box 9005, Champaign, IL 61826-9005
1-800-USA-CERL x449,   e-sink@uiuc.edu
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: psroff generates huge files
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:26:43 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <id.IIWO.Y05@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <3395@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:
>> That much?  Eeep!

>I don't see a 60% savings that much of a big deal. Personally, I don't bother
>even turning on optimization in psroff. I'm more interested in groff for the
>font support... and you can't do much about that except convert "\f" requests
>into some magic using your bell-system-logo overstrike + strategic "'fp"
>requests.

FYI: For psroff with the perl manual:

PL10 Optimization off:       1531033
PL10 Optimization on:         573074
PL11 "normal" Optimization:   554333 (shortened some strings)
PL11 "hyper" Optimization:    303104 (line optimization and some wierd bits)

The last is actually *less* than groff with kerning on.  And would probably
be another 40K smaller with a bit more effort.

Which isn't bad since the man page itself is 190K (big man page!).

[Not that these numbers are particularly important.  There are a number of
factors involved.  Who cares anyways?  As long as the output looks good it
doesn't matter how big it is (unless you're in the habit of posting the
output of your troff - Hi Michael ;-).  At least psroff doesn't introduce
errors of its own - several of the ditroff backends are lazy and can
produce some seriously awful output depending on what the input looked
like.  Tpscript and xtroff are cases in point.]

>Actually, if you could make the 4-position font limit vanish I'd blow off
>groff completely. I don't *WANT* to install G++.

I wish I could.  I haven't come up with a way yet.  Hell, if I can get
CAT troff to do pic, there must be a way ;-)

>> Postscript's space width is 1/3rd
>> narrower (12/432 @ 6 point versus 9/432 @ 6 point))

>Doesn't that depend on the font?

Yes.  Rephrase: CAT troff hardcodes space width as 12/432's at 6 point
in spite of the fact that there's a width table entry for space.  Thus,
CAT troff ignores the width table entry for space.  PostScript Times-Roman
actually has 9/432's spacing at 6 point.  Other fonts have different
values.  Eg: BookmanLight is 12/432 at 6 point.

Fortunately, the new optimizer doesn't care whether CAT troff reads it or not.
-- 
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Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Different line ends/segment Thanks
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:39:30 GMT
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my question (and I got LOTS of
responses - basically too many to reply to individually!).
There was pretty much a consensus that the best way to do it is to draw the
dashed line with square (butt) ends, then draw small circles of the
correct radius at each end.
-- 
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.boeing.com  // or uunet!bcstec!voodoo!das 
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From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Postscript has beaten me. (macintosh)
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:24:04 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

Well... I'm going insane. Period.
I need to get a postscript file to a non-apple file printer(versatec) via
ghostscript. It looks okay except for a few things...
----------------------------------------------------
(initial header with title and stuff)
%%DocumentProcSets: "(AppleDict md)" 71 0
%%  Copyright Apple Computer, Inc. 1989-92 All Rights Reserved.
%%EndComments
%%BeginProcSet: "(AppleDict md)" 71 0
userdict/LW{save statusdict/product get(LaserWriter)anchorsearch
exch pop{dup length 0 eq{pop 1}{( Plus)eq{2}{3}ifelse}ifelse}{0}ifelse exch rest
ore}bind put
userdict/patchOK known not{save LW dup 1 ne exch 2 ne and false<1861AEDAE118A9F9
5F1629C0137F8FE656811DD93DFBEA65E947502E78BA12284B8A58EF0A3
(this appledict md definition goes on for 30K)
--------------------------------------------------
Now - what the hell is the appledict doing in a general postscript file?
It then defines the appledict md procedure, but it isn't formatted
worth a darn. Is that appledict md definition (beginprocset) viable?
Ghostscript 2.3 sure doens't like it... that's for sure...The appledict
md definition doesn't seem to have a lot of formatted postscript
language to it... Any suggestions? 
  Also - there was a shareware application called Addlprep which 
said it clarified complications with **IncludeProcSets: "(AppleDict md)"
but I couldn't run it with system 7, or sytem 6 with 7.0 laserdrivers. 
This sounds like it is what I need, since the above crapola all revolves
around the definition of the definition of "appledict md". has there
been anything more recent? If so, I would appreciate it. 
   Any help would be appreciated, because I am a truly desperate man. 
We have big plots that have to be fed from mac -> ghostscript -> versatec.
Is it also a problem maybe that system 7 outputs levelI  postscript?
   thanks in advance for any help...
steve
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From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: Ghostscript for Mac?
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:27:37 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>   If my memory serves me right, ghostscript comes from the Free
>Software Foundation

Indirectly.

> (producers of emacs)

Producers of GNU Emacs.  There plenty of others.

>.  If that's the case, then
>there certainly won't be an official ghostscript for the Mac because of
>the FSF's boycott apple policy.

They're boycotting Apple's customers, actually.




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From: fields@pacvax.UUCP (Daniel A. Fields)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Duplex/Simplex printing on HP IIID
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:36:33 GMT
Reply-To: fields@pacvax.pacersoft.com.UUCP (Daniel A. Fields)
Organization: Pacer Software Inc., Westborough, MA USA

I read an article about a serial problem on some early Apple LaserWriters.
There was a PostScript patch that was supposed to fix it.  I saved the
article but I lost it.  Does any one out there have this patch or
know anything about the problem with the early Serial PostScript interpreters.

Thanks,

Dan Fields
Pacer Software, Inc.
1900 West Park Drive,
Suite 280
Westborough, Ma. 01581
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