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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 - Memory shortage
From: Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:47:02 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <oelNoB600WB781NqIL@andrew.cmu.edu> ag14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Albert H. Gough) writes:
> >I have a Mac LC with 10 meg of RAM (that's not the problem)                 
> >and I am running Word 5.0.  Some times (approx 25% of the time)             
> >when I start up the application it tells me that I am low or out of system  
> >memory (and a "button" to quit). After quiting I try to run the             
> >application again and no probs it runs.                                      
> I have the same problem on a MacII with 8 Mb of RAM, System 7.0, and 
> TuneUp 1.1.1. It doesn't seem to be related to how much memory is
> allocated for Word 5.0, especially since it happens before any 
> documents have been opened. I think it is a System 7.0 problem,
> because I have only had it happened immediately after I booted the
> computer, before running any other applications. I think, that if
> any application is run then Word will start normally. I would be 
> curious to hear any theories about this. 
> 
> Albert Gough,
> ag14@andrew.cmu.edu

I manage to run Word 5.0a on a powerBook 100 with 2mb ram (I am an
optimist :-)  ) but I use it mainly for sending faxes on the PB's
faxmodem.  I have allocated a rather paltry 900K to Word.  My PowerBook
has very little other software installed (ZTerm and the FaxModem
software).  Maybe one or two inits, no more.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: Word 5 "save" problem
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:40:48 GMT

Is it possible that a 'default format' has been assigned to that file?
Check, using Save As dialog, that the file format is Normal and that
the Default Format check box is off...

Other possibility? Are you confusing Word's tracking of appropriate 
folder by opening other documents? Is the correct folder shown when
the Save As dialog appears on second and later requests for the new
file name? (Though you did mention that you had to confirm replacement
of original file, which indicates that the directory is correct.)

Good luck
Dale
parkyn@sfu.ca
From: dana@are.Berkeley.EDU (Dana E. Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5 crashes when I try to set preferences
Date: 2 Oct 1992 21:22:20 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu

Your problem probably stems from a corrupted Word Settings file,
this file would not automatically be removed by a reinstallation of
the Word program, I believe. Find the file in the System 7
Preferences folder or in System 6 in the System Folder, drag it to
the trash and empty the trash. Then start Word and you should be
able to set preferences that will be stored in a brand new
Word Settings (5) file, since Word makes a new one if started with
no existing file of that name available.
If this does not work you may have some conflict with an init or
extension, try restarting without them loading and see if the problem
goes away.
-- 
Dana E. Keil           Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics
dana@are.Berkeley.EDU                 University of California, Berkeley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: What's Word 4.0 worth now?
From: peake@uncavx.unca.edu
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:09:08 -0500
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: rcrisp

In article <1992Sep24.225607.29798@news.duc.auburn.edu>, gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald George Marfoe) writes:
> How much is Word 4.0 worth now, with all manuals and original disks?
> ---
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>           ggmar@hoshi.colorado.edu  |- "Afer Ventus", Enya, "Shepherd Moons"
>




We paid $40 for a second-hand copy just after 5.0 shipped, and were pretty happy
with the deal. You might find it cheaper than that these days.

Steve Peake
peake@uncavx.unca.edu
peake@unca.bitnet
From: rramos@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Rodney G. Ramos)
Subject: Printing in Microsoft Word 5.0
Summary: How do you print odd pages only or even pages only
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: Word Printing
Date: 26 Sep 92 09:00:49 GMT

I have a relatively huge word document that I'd like to print using both sides
of each paper. I want to print the odd pages first, flip the pages over and
then print the even pages. I've hunted through the manuals and I still haven't
found a way to print just the odd pages or just the even pages.

Anyone know if this is possible? I've tried exporting to QuarkXPress (since it
prints odd/even pages) but the formatting of the document no longer matches
the table of contents.
  


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From: touch@ISI.EDU (Joe Touch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: telnet & packet size
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:16:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: touch@ISI.EDU's message of 6 Oct 92 18:13:08 GMT

To:
From: ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: What's Word 4.0 worth now?
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:41:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University

In <1992Sep28.060908.1@uncavx.unca.edu> peake@uncavx.unca.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.225607.29798@news.duc.auburn.edu>, gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
 (Gerald George Marfoe) writes:
>> How much is Word 4.0 worth now, with all manuals and original disks?
>We paid $40 for a second-hand copy just after 5.0 shipped, and were pretty happy
>with the deal. You might find it cheaper than that these days.

Quite frankly, after struggling with the behemoth, I'd rather use Word 4.
I even went back to it after trying 5 for two weeks. I was, shall we say,
VERY unimpressed.

-- 
"How dare they demand merit in return for a raise?!!" Modern Educators Magazine
"What? Lie? Me? The truth is FAR too much fun!" -- James Hook
Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
Andy Miller   ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu	ajmiller@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Eric Bush)
Subject: Re: Apple II on a Mac??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:22:26 GMT

In article <Kevin_Bailey-021092085343@msdmac37.msd.anl.gov> Kevin_Bailey@qmgate
.anl.gov (Kevin Bailey) writes:
>At one time a program was available that enabled Mac users to run Apple
>II(e,c,+...) programs.  What was it called?  Is it still available?  What
>does it's use entail???  I know...I know...
>

The program was called 2inaMac, but I don't recall who wrote it or if it
still exists.  I do seem to remember that the program just required every-
thing on a 3.5" disk (obviously).

Eric
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mbabramo@unix.amherst.edu (MICHAEL BERNARD ABRAMOWICZ)
Subject: Automatic chooser switching
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:31:38 GMT



Hello everyone,

Is there any way to get the computer to print from one program
to a certain printer and print from another program to a different
printer? The problem is that we have a bunch of computers hooked
up to a single print server that is attached to two printers. It
seems it would be most efficient for us if we could have PageMaker
files print on one printer and Word files on the other. Currently,
it often happens that one printer has a long queue while no one
is using the other printer. As an alternate solution, is there
any product that would work in conjunction with AppleShare
Print Server 3.0 so that it could automatically send print
jobs to a printer that is available?

Thanks,
Michael Abramowicz
Amherst College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: scott@cadence.com (Scott Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Quadra 950 compatibility fun and games
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:17:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.130211.4834@syma.sussex.ac.uk>,
paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul Russell) wrote:
> 
> Is there anyone who has recently upgraded to a Quadra (in particular a 950)
> and would like to compare notes ? So far I've had problems with:
> 
>   TMON Pro (waiting for a response from ICOM tech support)
>   Excel 3.0 (freezes when opening or saving files)
>   Nisus 3.06 (I believe there's an upgrade for 040 machines)
> 
> Most other stuff appears to work OK but I'd be interested to
> hear of any other known compatibility problems.
> 
Excel has to be upgraded to version 3.0a  which is free from MicroSoft
800-426-9400
TMON Pro has to be version 3.01
708-520-4440
Nisus is supposed to be compatable with 3.06
619-481-1477

My only real problem is third party CD drive (CD Technology) doesn't
work yet.

scott
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Cadence Design Systems, 555 River Oaks Pkwy., San Jose, CA  95134
Internet: scott@cadence.com
From: Linda_Richards@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Help Settle MacPlus Bet
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:49:21 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

My boyfriend says the Mac+ is maxed out at 4 megs.
I say 4.5.
Neither of us have +'s so -- although it's somewhat moot -- it's the kind of
thing we love to debate.
Anyone have a definitive answer as well as a why. (The why, of course, because
I know I'm right and I know there's a reason... it just evades me. :)
Thanks...
Linda

--
"The fact is -- nothing comes, at least nothing good. All has to be fetched."
-- Charles Buxton



Linda_Richards@mindlink.bc.ca
From: barryb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Barry A T Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: AD Picture saving
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:15:36 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Sorry if this question has been asked before but does anyone
know how to save a screenshot of a AD screensaver in such
a way that AD isn't disturbed?  I was wanting to produce
T'shirts of a sequence of AD shots but if I try and save
the screen using the built in Fkey it disturbes AD and puts
you back into the finder.

Muchappreciated,

Barry
From: ryanw@milton.u.washington.edu (Ryan Waite)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 Cross Reference (?)
Keywords: Word reference page-number
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:24:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.ryanw.717729863
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington

vbob@linus.umd.edu (Bob Shields) writes:

>I would like to generate a reference from one part of a document to a topic
>in another part of the document.

>I have been told this can be accomplished with a LINK command, but not how
>to get a page number.

You were very close.  "Picture" needs to be selected in the Paste Special
dialog box.  If you insert the glossary entry "Page Number" on one page,
copy the page number, and finally Paste Special as a Picture on a
different page, then the resulting number update correctly.  Also, this
number is visible even if your Source is invisible.

Ryan Waite
ryanw@u.washington.edu
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Tony McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Word 5.0/5.0a and Postscript errors
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:38:58 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Newcastle Uni. Computing Services

Hi,
Can anyone enlighten me here. I'm trying to print using both word 5.0 and
word 5.0a to a Laserwriter II a relatively simple file (the docs. to
RevRdist), and am getting PostScript errors from a IIci and an LCII.

They're both running system 7.0.1 (LCII with tuneup installed) and
everything else prints ok (even most other docs. from Word).

Anyone have any ideas?, perhaps there ought to be a Word FAQ list!
Tone.

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Computing Officer - Apple Mac Support      namm2@ncl.uk.ac
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: u921470@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Anthony Chan)
Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:03:10 GMT

Hi

Does anyone out there know what improvements AutoDoubler 2.0 has over the 
earlier versions (ie 1.0.7i).  I believe that it has been already released
in the USA.
Does it cost anything to upgrade (I'm registered from Australia)?


Thanx in advance.


Anthony Chan
From: cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Andrew M. Cohill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mac X cut/paste lockup
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:57:15 GMT
Organization: Fire in the Mountain

I have the same problem;  cut and paste in 1.1.7 simply does not work,
and trying freezes the application. I blame part of it on the
documentation, which is the usually "happy-talk" manual that assumes
your a complete dolt with computers.  Whoever wrote it went to great
lengths to avoid talking about anything technical and especially the
differences between MacX and X servers running on Unix boxes (there have
to be some). 


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|                    
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From: ag14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Albert H. Gough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 - Memory shortage
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:37:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oelNoB600WB781NqIL
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>I have a Mac LC with 10 meg of RAM (that's not the problem)                 
>and I am running Word 5.0.  Some times (approx 25% of the time)             
>when I start up the application it tells me that I am low or out of system  
>memory (and a "button" to quit). After quiting I try to run the             
>application again and no probs it runs.                                      
I have the same problem on a MacII with 8 Mb of RAM, System 7.0, and 
TuneUp 1.1.1. It doesn't seem to be related to how much memory is
allocated for Word 5.0, especially since it happens before any 
documents have been opened. I think it is a System 7.0 problem,
because I have only had it happened immediately after I booted the
computer, before running any other applications. I think, that if
any application is run then Word will start normally. I would be 
curious to hear any theories about this. 

Albert Gough,
ag14@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ddavis@highlite.uucp (Darrel L. Davis)
Subject: NEED: pc/MAC sharing project data
Summary: Need mac/pc to share project management data
Keywords: pcm mac, project
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:57:42 GMT





need is for fairly seamless project data between Mac's & PC's.

Has anyone had much experience importing PC Microsoft Project for Windows files into the Mac version of Microsoft Project.  Is it painless?

I would also appreciate any info I could get on other Mac project software that has capability to trade data with a PC.

-Darrel-




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: amiga graphics on a MAC?
From: galeana@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:51:41 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University

Is there a way to get amiga graphics on a mac?  I tried using imagery by Jeff
Lewis, but when I insert the amiga disk that contains the graphics, the mac
asks if I want to format the disk.

Any responses or REplys would be greatly appreciated.

Juan
galeana@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
From: sfsmith@pennsas.upenn.edu (Sandy F. Smith, Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: What's the best way to organize a user manual, and other MSWord stuff
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:17:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

My boss and I were mulling over the changes in Microsoft Word now that we
have installed Word 5.0 on our Macs.  We agreed that we liked many of the
new and/or improved features on the new release.  We also agreed that there
was one feature of Word 5.0 we *didn't* like:  The Word 5.0 User's Guide.

The Word 4.0 manuals were broken into three parts: a "Getting Started" booklet
that gave you the grand overview of Word, a "Quick Reference" and the complete
"Reference to Microsoft Word" -- this last was organized in a fashion novel
to user manuals I've seen thus far.

The Word 4.0 reference was arranged dictionary-style, with functions listed
alphabetically.  We both found this system quite convenient for looking up
complete information on a specific function or feature; just about everything
you needed to know about a given function (basic to advanced) was located in
that function's "dictionary" entry, or could be easily located with usually
no more than one cross-reference.

Sadly, IMO, Word 5.0's manual has reverted to the standard topical format,
which necessitates more wading through various sections in order to find a
specific function or set of functions.

Am I alone in this sentiment, or was the 4.0 manual easier to use?

Also, another post referred to something available in Word for Windows
called "WordBASIC".  Any info on this feature would be greatly appreciated.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Subject: Program request
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: George Mason University-IDO
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:13:00 GMT

Does anyone no of a utility, shareware or commercial, that reorders the way
that files appear in the Open File dialog window?

Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Recommendations wanted for music software
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:16:26 GMT

My apologies if this isn't the best newsgroup.  I had posted this to
comp.sys.mac.wanted, but got no replies.

I'd like to get some music software for my daughter.  She is NOT a
musician nor particularly musically inclined (neither am I).  She has
a Mac IIsi with built-in speaker and microphone, but NO additional
music hardware.

We have (and used to use) Studio Session, by Bogas.  This software let
you compose and play music (through the Mac's speaker), and had a
reasonable selection of synthesized instruments.  However, on digging
it out and reinstalling it, I found it no longer works.  Maybe it's the
newer Mac, maybe it's System 7, whatever.  Anyway, Studio Session no
longer appears in any of my Mac catalogs, and I'd like a replacement.

Anyway, I get confused looking through the catalogs.  I don't know
whether something being MIDI means I need to have extra hardware to
use it, or whether it just means I could use it with a moog if I had
one.

I just want something for a non-musician to have fun with, composing
little tunes and playing with them.  Synthesized instruments would be
nice.  I didn't need extra hardware with Studio Session and I don't
want to buy any now.

What software would you recommend?

Thanks in advance,
  dave

-- 

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From: rsnyder@atl.ge.com (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: NewsWatcher Fails on System 7.0.1
Keywords: News, Macs, Death
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:02:43 GMT
Organization: GE Aerospace, Advanced Technology Labs

In article <ruderman.717886255@phage.cshl.org> ruderman@phage.cshl.org (David Ruderman in Grace - CSHL) writes:

>	"A server error occurred:
>	502 You only have permission to transfer, sorry."
>
>I have posted to this question to this group before, and did not
>get any response -- except to try the new version of NewsWatcher.

Have you tried asking your local news administrator?  This is an error
gerenated by your NNTP server, not NewsWatcher.  Possibly your news
administrator changed the default permissions or the permissions for your
machine or your network to not allowed read or posting privs.

Bob
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From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Which Word Processor?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 04:41:51 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

rcarr@zeus.calpoly.edu (Robin) writes:

>I am looking into purchasing a new Word Processor for my Mac.  I have used
>MS Word 4.0 and am not thrilled with it.  I tested out MacWrite II for
>a few hours, and I'm not all that impressed with that either.  

>Can anyone tell me about WriteNow?

Writenow 3.0 is very good. It is fast and doesn't need much memory.  I have
a 500K document that was a word 4 document and I read it into Writenow.  It
took 15 minutes to convert it to Writenow format on an SE/30, but worked
pretty much perfectly.  Sadly the document was 1.4Meg when I had finished,
but on the plus side, Writenow gives you permenant Page View Mode and  I
could go straight from teh top of the document to the bottom and it was
instant.  No waiting for Word to work out where all the page breaks shoudl
be or anything.  You can compress the document too and it went down is size
a lot and then grows again as you edit it.

I have only just started using style sheets and they are wild.  Simple to
use and really effective.

Writenow will also install onto a dual floppy system and you can send off
for the smaller thesaurus and dictionary.

Thoroughly recommend Writenow 3.0 or 2.2.  Both are wonderful programs.

Craig
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