From: mac@gvg47.gvg.tek.com (Bill MacAllister)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.pmdf
Subject: ccMail and Dates
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:14:57 GMT
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Argh, I hit a control-Z in the wrong Window and I am not sure it I
stop this message or if a piece of it got send to the list.  Here is the
complete message:

I seem to remember a related problem begin discussed before, but I just
could not find the posting.  Excuse me if this has been answered before.

So, we have been bringing up the ccMail part of PMDF.  We have hit the
following problem.  When a user on a PMDF 4.0 machine generates mail to a
ccMail Macintosh user ccMail generates will not deliver the message.  The
error message is "invalid date format".  Here is a copy of the output of
the PMDF master program for the ccMail channel for a message that does not
get delivered:

        Message:
        From: MAC@gvg70.gvg.tek.com at ccVAX
        Date: 08-Oct-1992 13:14:
        To: macuser at ccmac
        Subject: This is a test
        Contents:
        Text item:
        Testing

Note that the seconds field is blank.  Editing this file and making the
seconds field 00 fixes the message and then ccMail will deliver it.  This
problem occurs only for messages from the non-PMDF 4.1 machines.  Here is
an example of a failing message that I grabbed out of the ccMail queue
before Master processed:

        m;MAC@gvg70.gvg.tek.com
        macuser@ccmac

        Received: from gvg70.gvg.tek.com by gvg47.gvg.tek.com (PMDF #2374 ) id
         <01GPPHTIHU2OCIREDH@gvg47.gvg.tek.com>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:38:21 PST
        Received: from gvg70.gvg.tek.com by gvg70.gvg.tek.com (PMDF #12496) id
         <01GPPHW3MAQ8000449@gvg70.gvg.tek.com>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:40 PDT
        Date: 08 Oct 1992 13:40 -0700 (PDT)
        From: MAC@gvg70.gvg.tek.com
        Subject: a test
        To: macuser@ccmac
        Message-id: <01GPPHW3MAQ8000449@gvg70.gvg.tek.com>
        X-Envelope-to: macuser@ccmac
        X-VMS-To: IN%"macuser@ccmac"
        Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

        this is a test


Here is a message that works:

        m;MAC@gvg47.gvg.tek.com
        macuser@ccmac

        Received: from gvg47.gvg.tek.com by gvg47.gvg.tek.com (PMDF #2374 ) id
         <01GPPHTY5SXCBWAY2N@gvg47.gvg.tek.com>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:38:49 PDT
        Date: 08 Oct 1992 13:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
        From: Bill MacAllister <MAC@gvg47.gvg.tek.com>
        Subject: test
        To: macuser@ccmac
        Message-id: <01GPPHTY62KIBWAY2N@gvg47.gvg.tek.com>
        X-Envelope-to: macuser@ccmac
        X-VMS-To: IN%"macuser@ccmac"
        MIME-version: 1.0
        Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

        test two

So, my solution is to put up 4.1 everywhere as quickly as I can.  This
fille fix most of my problems, but this will not fix mail that originates
from systems outside of my management domain.

I have taken a quick look at the code, it seems pretty straight forward.
But I am not really fluent in Pascal so it will take me awhile it figure
out.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Bill

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