From: dave@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Dave hall)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Misc DYN/FF #9 Update
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 10:52:23 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

[Those A.T.S. Blues]

 Due to a lost feed, our site went down last week.  As a result, I've
 missed all that wonderful bantering on A.T.S. for 9 days.  Due to the
 kindness of Chris Baird (our man down under), I've received a batch of
 articles from the Auzzie side :)


[Smoke & Steam]

 Thanks to those who pointed out my mistake.  Steam or vapour/vapor is a
 more correct term for what was raising out of the cooling towers--not
 like the clearly defined smoke raising up from SVPP in 8F04.  I just
 wanted to point out that this is my first time noticing it (steam
 raising from the cooling towers) from Mr. Burns' office window (was this
 a first?).


[Newspaper]

 Raymond L. Gilbert typed:

 >It is entirely possible that a Springfield newspaper could have ended
 >up in the trash and been carted away to some place else (like trash
 >from NYC ending up in KC).

 Yes, I agree that the newspaper could have been transported, or rather,
 carried by the hobo from Springfield.  However, due to the situation, it
 is unlikely.  My reasoning is this (in long form):

   Homer is seen in Moe's Tavern (with Joe Frazier) still holding his
   statue and wearing his tuxedo, indicating that they most likely went
   straight to Moe's after the Award show and stayed for awhile (listen
   to Barney's dialogue).  Homer is later seen in front of the store,
   drooling over the Spinemelter 2000 (still in tuxedo & holding statue).
   The scene of Herb finding the newspaper is mingled in between these
   two scenes--indicating that these unrelated events happen almost
   simultaneously.  However, because the newspaper contained photos of
   Homer winning, the the newspaper would have to be hours old (a late
   addition--is that possible?) and the hobo would have either obtained
   it or been carrying for a short distance.

   If all this sounds logical then it would mean Herb is most likely
   already near Springfield and would have already known it--I can't
   conceive anyone (even a hobo) not at least knowing which state/county
   they're in.  Now, if I was Herb, I would have been extremely curious
   to know how the man (who destroyed me) lives and go spy on
   him--possibly even do terrible things to his dog with a fork. ;)

   Now, let's suppose the hobo did hop a fright from Springfield or had
   somehow obtain a newspaper that was only a few hours old, and Herb
   really didn't know were Springfield was--it still leaves a few loose
   ends.  For one thing, because the newspaper is only a few hours old,
   It would be logic to assume it would take a few hours for Herb to
   reach Springfield and not the next day (long after OFF had visited the
   store).  {How's that for a long detailed analysis?}


[Dr. John Fink]

 As pointed out by Raymond Chen, the scientist with the eye glasses &
 bucktooth is Dr. John Fink.  Undoubtedly we'll most likely hear more
 from him.  Has anyone ever paid attention to his teeth & mouth when he
 talks?


[Raymond Speaks]

 Raymond Chen typed:

 >   ... the teapot and cups hanging in the china hutch behind Bart
 >       during dinner look vaguely like the spaceship Discovery?
 >       (Probably a self-induced subliminal 2001 reference.)

 I didn't see this in the scene you've described, but did see the teapot
 & cups when Bart & Lisa were playing cards (after Herb pouched out
 Homer).  Yes, I can see how it would look like Discovery.  Subliminal? I
 don't know, the teapot was there in past episodes like 8F10 (the cups
 were replaced by a bowl of sugar with a spoon in it).

   {So, Raymond, when can us mortals expect another tome (capsule)? >:(}


[Some Updates]

 For 8F23:

 >  ...the unusual way Mr. Burns holds his arms up in front of him?

 Jym Dyer pointed out in a old article, the animators tried to make him
 look more like a Praying Mantis.

 A Simpson NO-PRIZE Award to anyone who can guess (in detail) where Herb
 slept while he stayed at OFF's place.  (I know, do you?)  {Offer not
 open to Chris or Raymond, sorry.}

 DYN: Homer's hand touched Barney's blood (on the door) when he left
      Moe's?

 FF: BABY EXPO
     Tu-Fr: Twin Convention
     No Triplets!

 AG: When Herb was in the hallway talking with OFF, it seemed the lights
     were already on, but when Homer went for the switch, the lights were
     off.

 Comment: Timothy Leary would have probably loved the Spinemelter 2000.


[From 8F23, Things That Make You Go `Mmmmmm?']

 Has anyone find it odd when OFF was at the store, Marge said ``This
 morning was a blessing, we can't just spent it on some creature
 comfort''?  I wonder what she was referring too?  (Or did I hear the
 quote right?)

 Ned (and Maude) offered to sleep on card tables.  Considering their
 believes, would they have had card tables?  Would have one card table
 hold one person?--would that mean Ned & Maude normally sleep in separate
 beds?

 Homer cursed when the Flanders were singing, but why did he use `stupid
 neighbors' instead of `stupid Flanders' like he would have in past
 episodes?
 
 Herb worn the same suit during his stay.  If Herb kept his promise of
 giving back the money in 30 days and not before, then his suit must be
 really stinky?  Although Herb had become rich, he kept & worn Ned's suit
 rather than buy a new one?

 Herb commented that OFF had believed in him, did anyone think this was
 true?


[SIMPSON NO-PRIZE AWARD]

 As noted before by Raymond Chen, in episode 8F06 we got to see how Bart
 jumps over the wall during the opening credits, but this is *not the
 first* episode to show this--I know of another.  A Simpson NO-PRIZE
 Award to anyone who can correctly guess or come up with the name of this
 other episode.

- Dave                                     "I want what the dog's eating."
                                                           Maggie Simpson.

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