From: bpita@ctp.com (Bob Pitas)
Subject: Re: Trans Warp Drive
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:22:04 GMT

In article <2NOV199209402835@sigma.tamu.edu> mrh0631@sigma.tamu.edu (Mark Hesidence) writes:
>In article <30OCT199221452551@rosie.uh.edu>, cosc1871@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes...
>>In article <92Oct30.225827.11431@acs.ucalgary.ca>, jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes...
>>>>TransWarp Drive was suppose to be the equivalent of warping through
>>>>a dimensional door.  It's suppose to be based on the Enterprise's
>>>>miraculous escape in OST "Tholian Web".  
>>>>As far as speed is concerned, well, it is suppose to be faster
>>>>than what any conventional warp engine can muster.  In other words
>>>>this puppy can *exceed* Warp 10 limit in TNG and *not* exactly
>>>>do a time travel bit.
>
>   No matter how much you try to explain it below you said, "...this puppy
>   (TrasWarp) can *exceed* (the) Warp 10 limit in TNG and *not* exactly
>   to the time travel bit."
>
>   Please explain how you *exceed* an infinite speed?  At infinite speed
>   you can get anywhere in zero time.  The only way to exceed that is
>   with negative time.  Yet you said TransWarp doesn't exactly do the
>   time travel bit.  What *exactly* does it do?
>
>   The explanation below side steps these questions.
>> 
>>Because, if the speed of the light is the normal space speed limit ('cause
>>infinite energy would be needed to move a relativistic-altered mass) is
>>akin to Warp 10 versus sub-space.  Warp is still warp in OST or TNG.  It
>>is always operating in sub-space/normal space.  Considering the recalibrated
>>warp 10 is suppose to be infinitely fast (or as the manual puts it being
>>everywhere at the same time) it still leaves out other dimensions which does
>>not necessarily follow these rules.  That's why I call Warp 10 (TNG) a speed
>>limit.  Transwarp doesn't operate exactly in sub-space so it doesn't have
>>to have that Warp 10 penalty imposed.  Whatever limit Transwarp may have had
>>of course, is up for conjecture in my opinion.
>> 
>
>    So either:
>    a) Explain how to exceed infinity
>    b) Or admit your mistake
>
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Isn't this a little strange to say that he needs to explain how to exceed
infinity???  By current theory, you can't exceed the speed of light, and
yet the writers of ST explain it by saying that spacecraft can be suspended
in a sub-space bubble.  You believe this without question, even though
it's currently impossible.  And yet you won't believe that by suspending
a ship in a 'transwarp bubble' or somesuch, that you can exceed the limits
of warp speeds.  Give the guy a break!  If the writers of ST can say the
warp-bubble can skirt the laws of physics as we currently know them, then
the guy from UH can explain transwarp as a new dimensional technology,
or a deeper subspace where warp-bubble physics don't apply, or whatever!
Remember, it's ALL fiction, until someone crosses the light-barrier!

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