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From: poe@daimi.aau.dk (Peter Orbaek)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: shutdown problem
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:30:42 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

jstump@vnet.ibm.com (John Stump) writes:

>I tried using the shutdown utility from the 0.96c root disk under 0.96cpl2
>and it gave me messages "cannot umount /dev//dev/hda3" and "cannot
>umount /dev//dev/hda2" or something to that effect. These are indeed
>mounted as / and /usr.

Shutdown was written with the old mount program in mind, and it didn't
prepend /dev to the devices in /etc/mtab.

>It seems shutdown is prepending /dev/ when it is already there. Are there
>newer binaries for this? And where is the source? I can't seem to locate
>it at the usual sites in the usual places.

It's to be found in the admutil-1.1 package, and can at least be ftp'ed from

	ftp.daimi.aau.dk:/pub/Linux-source

	- Peter.

--
Peter Orbaek <poe@daimi.aau.dk>
Hasle Ringvej 122, DK-8200 Aarhus N, DENMARK
From: qs101@cl.cam.ac.uk (Quentin Stafford-Fraser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: PostScript FAQ
Keywords: FAQ postscript faq
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:15:45 GMT
Reply-To: qs101@cl.cam.ac.uk (Quentin Stafford-Fraser)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

I have converted Gert-Jan Hagenaars' FAQ.tex into postscript and uploaded
it to banjo.concert.net as /pub/Linux/Incoming/FAQ_07.ps.Z.

His LaTeX version is also there as FAQ_07.tex.Z.

These names are a bit vague, because I wasn't sure which version he'd
taken it from.

Congrats to him on all his hard work.

Quentin

 -----------------------------------
 Quentin Stafford-Fraser            
 Cambridge University Computer Lab  
 qs101@cl.cam.ac.uk
 Tel +44 223 334645
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: miquels@htsa.aha.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
Subject: Re: sigblock, sigpause...
Organization: Algemene Hogeschool Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:09:33 GMT

In article <14p8neINNpr0@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> kxb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Karl Buck) writes:
>Are sigblock and sigpause implemented in the latest version of the
>compiler and/or kernel?
>-- 
>Karl Buck         O, Freddled Gruntbuggly      
>Grain Marketing   Thy Nicturations are to me   
>Research Lab      As Plurdled Gabbleblotchits  
>(913)776-2745	  On a lurgid bee.       -- Chief Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz

#define sigblock(what) sigsetmask(siggetmask()|(what))
#define sigpause(what) sigsuspend(&what)

That's all.. (Could someone put this in the official <signal.h> ? )

Mike.

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%     Miquel van Smoorenburg, Baljuwstraat 20, 2461SL Langeraar, Holland.     %
%   miquels@htsa.aha.nl (school)       miquels@drinkel.nl.mugnet.org (home)   %
%                   Calm down - it's just ones and zeros                      %
From: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Bill Broadley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Using 387, xload, and rzsz with Linux
Keywords: 387 xload linux rzsz zmodem
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:41:38 GMT
Reply-To: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Just bought a 387-40 for $99 (at a show), I recompiled the kernal without 
the 387 emulation.  (0.96c pl 2)

Anything else should I do? Recompile everything?

The xload binary from tsx needs gcc.2.1 libraries, is a newer version 
available?  I tried to compile it, and I got several unresolved externals.  
I can compile the kernal so I assume most of my includes/libs are okay.

I have been using xc and szrz succesfully.  I tried to compile the new
rzsz 3.18, and haven't been able to get it to work.  Any hints?

-- 
Bill				1st>	Broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Broadley@schneider3.lrdc.pitt.edu <2nd 3rd> 	Broadley+@pitt.edu
From: scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Compiling X apps.
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:01:54 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland


I tried to compile the example progs from O'Reilly.  I did an xmkmf,
followed by make all.  Everything worked, running them gave segmentation
faults.

Any advice?

Cheers,

Scott.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ral45184@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (sPiNdRy )
Subject: Perstor controller and linux???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:01:51 GMT


     Has anyone tried using a perstor controller with linux???
   I think they've had problems with DOS 5... not quite sure why.
   But as far as I know, the perstor changes the format on the drive
   to increase the capacity... and then reports to bios the correct
   (augmented) size.  Will this work with linux?  I have the
   opportunity to buy such a card...

    thanks

--
.sigless
From: faith@bert.cs.unc.edu (Rik Faith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: fileutl-3.3B* and find-3.7B*: possible problems
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:09:58 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Originator: faith@bert


I have removed these files from ftp on banjo.concert.net and on
ftp.cs.unc.edu, and have asked that they not be placed on tsx-11.mit.edu.

I have experienced some weirdness related to the cp program in
fileutl-3.3B, and until I understand the problem better, will withdraw
these packages from distribution.  A new, clean distribution will have a
different name (i.e., fileutl-3.3C).

IF YOU DOWNLOADED THESE FILES, PLEASE DO *NOT* USE THEM.

Especially, replace the "cp" program immediately, and tell me if you
noticed any "strange" happenings.  I'd explain more, but I know that at
this stage no one would believe me (hell, *I* don't even believe this. . .).

Sorry for the inconvenience, I'll try to get old versions onto banjo in the
morning.
From: lynch@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tom Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BSD Unix aka Freedom is a myth....
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:21:47 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
In-reply-to: murthy@cs.cornell.edu's message of 21 Jul 92 11:27:05 GMT


I wonder if it is worthwhile to take up a collection to help
fight the ATT lawyers.  I would hate to see another 'look and feel'
type of outcome.  Jeeze, these lawyers could convince a computer
ignorant jury that anything using a keyboard and CRT is an ATT copy
of unix.

-tom
my opinions
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: yacc and lex
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:00:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.080207.21315@fys.ruu.nl> hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft) writes:
>In <WEILER.92Jul21213719@crabapple.cis.ohio-state.edu> weiler@crabapple.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jerry Weiler) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Jul21.164738.1@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu> ramirez@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu writes:
>
>>> I would like to know if anybody has ported yacc and lex
>>> over to linux. If yes, please let me know where I can find it.

I was using yacc and lex before switching to bison and flex.  It was freely
available Berkeley code and compiled with little or no modification.  In the
states, I believe they can be found via anonymous ftp at ftp.uu.net in
the packages/bsd-sources directory.

Hope this helps,


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson                                 ujlh@sunyit.edu
* "Yet another Jim in the Linux world."  :-)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: Re: tsx-11.mit.edu Linux
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:21:11 GMT

butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler) writes:

>I have had this problem on and off for months. It seems execute a
>command about two or three commands behind the one you just typed.

When this happens, doing "reset" should fix it.

From the "ftp" man page:

     reset
          Clear reply queue.  This command re-synchronizes
          command/reply sequencing with the remote ftp server.
          Resynchronization may be neccesary following a viola-
          tion of the ftp protocol by the remote server.

I have found that sometimes "reset" works, and sometimes it doesn't. :-)

--
Ben Cox
thoth@uiuc.edu
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: Registry of ongoing projects
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:38:47 GMT

In article <SCHLOTE.92Jul21213258@ips106.desy.de> schlote@ips106.desy.de (Hans Werner Schlote) writes:
>What about a database-system like NED (NASA/IPAC database on
>extragalactic objects at caltech). Guest login without passwd,
>simply with autostarting the database for getting the informations?
>   Opinions, comments, ideas? 
>Think it's a good idea.
>

It might be a little lengthy, but making a dummy account without a login
and putting the info in a .plan file would enable us to access the information
without stressing out a system administrator over opening an account without
a password.  I'm not trying to start a thread on system security, just stating
the fact that there are a lot of nervous system administrators.

The database wouldn't have to be very complicated, just the name of the
software and the names and email addresses of people working on them.  In
fact, the people doing the work could put the status of their projects in
their own .plan files (when possible) so the database maintainer doesn't
have to spend as much time updating the list.  Those that aren't as tightly
connected to the internet can ask volunteers to maintain a .plan for them.

Just thought I'd offer a couple of suggestions for what seems like a very
good idea.


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson                                 ujlh@sunyit.edu
* "Yet another Jim in the Linux world."  :-)
From: rohrer@fncrda.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: timeouts on hard drive (long)
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:16:57 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL

I've had Linux up and running for a week or two now, and I added another
partition to my Linux zone.  There is a DOG partition (/dev/hda1), a Linux-
Minix FS partition (/dev/hda2), 8 megs of swap (/dev/hda3), and the fourth
partition (/dev/hda4).  I know that the fourth partition is physically perfect,
because mkfs -c and mkefs -c both mark no bad blocks, and I formatted the
partition under DOG and ran Norton Witch Doctor on it (in continuous-pass 
weekly mode) while I had dinner.  So no problem there.

However, when I fill the new partition with data (it's not the number of files,
as a couple tars of the Nethack source will do), and fsck it, or try to cp
or cat > /dev/null from it, *sometimes* it hangs up for about 5 seconds at a
time, then prints out that it timed out on the hard drive, and was resetting
the controller.  Then it goes on as normal, and does the right thing.  The
process always works correctly if the data is already in the buffer cache (of
course) and only sometimes does this when reading the actual disk.  I've hacked
the kernel to printk the device and sectors being requested, and they are
always the right device and reasonalble sectors to be reading.  Further,
back when I could get it to do this on demand, they sectors were very
similar (I fsck'd 3 times in a row, one at a time, on three VC's and wrote
down the results; most of the sectors timed out on were timed out on twice,
a fair number all three times, a few only once).  I was doing *all* of this
in a very linear, DOS-like way, one thing at a time, only on one VC until
I went to test the repeatability of the timeouts on particular sectors, at
which point I did one, switched to the next VC, logged in, fsck'd, waited
for it to finish, switched to the next, &c.

I'm using Linux kernel 0.96c pl 2 with the third extfs patch (triple indirection
patch?), everything else but the datafile was stock MCC Interim 0.96/0.96c.
The hardware is a 386-40 clone, with 4 megs of RAM (looks like 4.25 as the
chipset scavenges most of 640K-1M), a Maxtor 7213A IDE hard drive, and floppies.

Any ideas?  I posted about this problem, though with less concrete evidence,
before, and the only vaguely useful suggestion I got is that I should have
my BIOS updated (it's currently dated 5-91 or so, and the person said it
should be 6-6-91 or newer "for correct operation with IDE drives"... anyone
confirm that?), but I don't think that's the case, as DOS uses it just fine,
and I don't think Linux uses any firmware for the hard drive, just the CMOS...

	Keith
(rohrer@fncrd0.fnal.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kk@cs.tu-berlin.de (Kolja Kaehler)
Subject: Re: What IS libobz.a ??? Where can I get one ?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:30:34 GMT

sjm86289@cs.tut.fi (Sami J. M{kinen) writes:
> 
> 	Has anyone an idea where I can get libobz.a ?

This library contained the socket stuff, when X386 V0.1 was released.
Meanwhile it has found it's way into the kernel, so compiling should be as easy
as simply *not* linking libobz.a :-)

Kolja
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Kolja Kaehler                                            <kk@cs.tu-berlin.de>
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: zoo ports and archiver status
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:18:14 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

This weekend I ported the zoo archiver to Linux and have just uploaded
it to banjo and tsx-11. I uploaded a static linked zoo binary
(zoobin.tar.Z) and the sources (zoosrc.zoo). I don't intend to upload
zoo files as a practice, but since this was zoo source and the zoo file
was about 1/3 smaller than the tar.Z, and I had to bring it to work on a
floppy...

I also compiled the latest zip and unzip from info-zip, and have
reported one odd happening to the group. I am NOT taking over the linux
port of zip, I just wanted to try it, since new zip is faster than zoo,
and maybe a percent or two smaller in some cases.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: X problems
Originator: fortony@murphy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:02:23 GMT
Keywords: repost


Since a couple of people asked, I thought I'd post again.

To diagnose problems related to blank screens and nothing
starting up under X386, try

startx 2> /mnt/spam

since X386 prints its stuff to stderr.


Other good ideas include commenting out the Clocks line
in your Xconfig file and then trying the above.

Also, make sure the last line of your .xinitrc is

exec twm

...or whatever window manager else you've got, but twm
is in with the X1.1 dist.
-- 
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Felix Sebastian Ortony	fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wuwei@acf3.nyu.edu (Wei Wu)
Subject: misc X11 questons
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:57:22 GMT


I just got X11 running. I have several questions. I do remember them
being discussed on the news group before, unfortunately I forgot the
answers.

Vi does not work in a xterm. Seems like the terminal is not set
correct. What is the solution. I do remember a discussion a week or so
ago.

How can I switch between virtual console when I am running X in on
console. I tried Left Alt-F{1-4} and Ctl-Alt-F{1-4}, they don't seem
to work.

Is there a FAQ about X386 ?

Wei Wu (wuwei@acf3.nyu.edu)
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: C_A_D=0
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:12:56 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Never write in a patch by hand: it usually gets messed up...

In article <1992Jul27.185353.5771@klaava.Helsinki.FI> I wrote:
>
>(b) apply this "patch" (or wait for my next release):
>
>	in linux/kernel/sys.c, ctrl_alt_del():
>
>! 		if (task[1])
>			send_sig(SIGINT,task[1],1);
>
>	should be:
>
>! 		if (task[1] && task[1].sigaction[SIGINT-1].sa_handler)
   		                     ^^^
>			send_sig(SIGINT,task[1],1);

the 'task[1].sigaction' should obviously be a 'task[1]->sigaction', or
it won't even compile...

		Linus "shamefaced" Torvalds
From: grisanti@plains.NoDak.edu (Ames Grisanti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need help with math functions in GCC 2.2.2
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:28:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19319
Organization: University of North Dakota EERC

I can't get math functions to compile with GCC 2.2.2 running
under linux 0.96a. I installed GCC according to the instructions
and think it works since I was able to compile the kernel I'm
running right now. But I was attempting to compile some programs
of my own and couldn't get any math functions to work. For
example the simple program:

#include <math.h>

void main(void)
{
	double x;

	for(x=0; x<=100; x++)
	{
		printf("%f %f\n",x, sin(x));
	}
}

Produces an error message complaining about undefined symbol
_sin in segment main. I am compiling with the -lm flag. What is
really strange about this is that I can compile the 0.96a kernel
with this system just fine.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Ames Grisanti

University of North Dakota
Energy and Environmental Research Center
[grisanti@plains.NoDak.edu      --         Internet]
[grisanti@plains or ndsuvax     --         Bitnet  ]
[uunet!plains!grisanti          --         UUCP    ]
"Quantum Mechanics, the dreams that stuff is made of."
	-unknown
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@hamlet.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Choice of SCSI controllers?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:06:31 GMT

In article <1dSq02Ys1c7B01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> dlbb0@diag.amdahl.com (David Black) writes:
>What SCSI controller(s) are known to coexist with an IDE controller and
>also perform respectibly in LINUX (good xfer rate and "nice to the system")?
>I almost snagged a $20 ST-01 at local electronics store, but thought there
>might be better options.
>
>Please post replies.

Basically, any of the supported SCSI controllers will coexist with 
IDE. (Adaptec 154x, 174x in 154x mode, Future Domain 16 bit, Seagate , 
Ultrastor 14F, Western Digital 7000FAASST).

As far as getting a decent xfer rate : Version two of the SCSI drivers 
support scatter / gather, and will transfer as many sectors as it can 
with one SCSI command.  Unfortunately, that isn't the case 
right now, which makes performance is pretty low, especially on drives 
that lack a track buffer or better.

After SCSI scatter/gather support is in place, I expect that the bus master
controllers like the Adaptec 1542 will be real fast (one interrupt for 
the entire transfer, no CPU intervention, limited essentially by bus 
speed), whereas the current Seagate data transfer routines (not the whole 
driver, which currently maxes out at ~120k/s)  have been measured at 400 - 
440K / sec (486/33), and are extremely CPU dependant.    

If price is an issue, and you have surplus SCSI drives sitting around,
the Seagate is damm cheap at $20 compared to the ~$150 a bare adaptec
1542 board runs.
From: michaelw@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Will)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: List of BBS's carrying Linux
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:35:24 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence Hamburg

Hi,

We have given up on the amiga :-)

We install some os/2 tonight and try several bbs, then we can provide
a proper linux-filearea again...

...and play all these nice shoot-ups on the amiga <grin>.

Sorry for the inconvenience or however you spell it :-)

Greetings and see you right here again...

		Temple Of Data 
		     (TOD)
--
TOD german word for death <never mind grin>
From: drmo@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help Getting Started
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:28:32 GMT

I have been reading (well, skimming really) this newsgroup for several weeks
now.  I have read the FAQ file, and several other documents I was able to
get my hands on.  I am planning on buying a new system sometime soon, and
am curious about a few things.

First, I have read that it takes anywhere from 150 to 200 megs of free disk
space to download and build X.  However, I have also read that Linux and
X can be up and running with about 40 megs of disk space.  Is is possible
to get X without having 150 megs of free disk space?  Are precompiled 
binaries available?  If so, how do you go about applying patches?

I am planning on buying a 200 meg HD, but I would like to have an OS/2 
partition as well as a Linux partition.  Will that be enough if I also want
to run X?

Also,  as a result of reading this newsgroup and the FAQ, I feel more 
confused than when I started.  I know very little about UNIX in any form,
and even less about system administration, and the majority of the discussion
here seems to be targeted above my knowledge.  Does any one know of any good
references for system administration and the like?  

If possible, please reply via e-mail, and I will post a summary.

Thanks

Drew Moseley
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bairstow@haydn.psu.edu (Steven Bairstow)
Subject: Re: Line Printer Programs
Keywords: lp lpr lpd
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:57:35 GMT

In article <14603@umd5.umd.edu> dhs@moeng2.minc.umd.edu (David H. Silber) writes:
>
>Hi Folks,
>	I have just gotten my printer fixed.  It works when I redirect
>text to /dev/lp0.  I can not find a printer spooling program (lp, lpr,
>whathaveyou).  I have looked in some of the obvious places.  Is there a
>linux port of this software?  Or should we be using the generic version?
>In either case, could someone point me in the right direction? ...
>
>

lp is available on tsx-11, I've been using it for awhile now. I just 
checked it is in /pub/linux/patches.

		Steve
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Linux ?
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Organization: You must be kidding!
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:20:23 GMT

In article <2845@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> of comp.os.linux,
  dcb@mulka.ph.unimelb.edu.au (David Bell) writes:
> 
> 	At the moment I have just installed Linux 0.96c
> and have it booting from hard disk. I followed the recent 
> installation instructions and now have a problem.
> 

There are two steps to installing Shoelace, one which involves
/dev/hda[1234] and one which involves /dev/hda.  DO NOT PERFORM THE SECOND
STEP.  The second step installs WiniBoot, which is redundant, since the
OS/2 Boot Manager will do the same.

If you have a copy of DOS 5.0, do the following:

1. Boot DOS 5.0 (from a floppy or HD doesn't matter)
2. Type "FDISK /MBR"
3. Reboot

This will restore your master boot record to the original.  You may need to
re-update your Boot Manager information using OS/2 FDISK after this.

> 	In other words it is like having TWO boot managers at start up
> The Question is ?
> 	How do I fix it so I only start with the OS/2 boot manager 
> and still be able to boot Linux without problems?

See above.  This will remove WiniBoot (the "Boot Manager" that comes with
Shoelace), while leaving Shoelace itself (the program that bootstraps the
Linux kernel) intact.

	/hpa
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