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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:55:33 MST
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From:         Fred Lillibridge <FLILLIBR@NMSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Classroom Learning Environments

I have become interested in finding more information about
the assessment of the "Learning Environment" of a community
college classroom.  I have found extensive information about
elementary and secondary classroom learning environments, but
nothing so far about community colleges.

I have a copy of "Assessment of Learning Environments: Manual for
Learning Environment Inventory (LEI) and My Class Inventory
(MCI)" by Barry J. Fraser (Western Australian Institute of
Technology), Gary J. Anderson (McGill University), and Herbert J.
Walberg (University of Illinois, Chicago).  This manual was
published in 1982.

This manual contains a series of questions that ask students to
describe "what your class is like."  My problem is that the
nature of these questions does not seem to be appropriate to a
community college classroom.

Does anyone have any information about efforts to modify these
instruments for community college classroom use?

Does anyone have BITNET or INTERNET addresses for any of the
authors listed above?

Is anyone aware of any other efforts to assess the learning
environment of community college classrooms?

Thanks.

Fred Lillibridge
Coordinator of Assessment
Alamogordo Branch Community College
New Mexico State University
BITNET flillibr@nmsuvm1
INTERNET flillibr@nmsuvm1.nmsu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 10:44:57 MST
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   Surely all of you out there must be privy to some interesting election
 results from yesterday's polling on issues that involve education. Many
 state ballots carried propositions concerning education. How about sharing
 the results more widely so we can get a sense of what might be happening
 in the U.S.
     Colorado--where I am this moment--had a sales tax increase ammendment
 that was Governor Roy Romer's pride and joy. It would have imposed a 1%
 sales tax across the state with all proceeds going to finance a laundry
 list of education reforms (none of them new, of course). The ammendment
 failed (roughly 54% to 46%), perhaps dragged down by the companion
 Ammendment on school vouchers that was overwhelmingly  rejected (by a two
 to one margin). So we have Colorado going heavily for Clinton and rejecting
 tax increase for education. Liberalism may be wearing a new face.

      The Ammendment failure may have hurt Romer's ambitions to be Clinton's Ed
 Secretary.

        Will CLinton try to do to the U.S. what he did for Arkansas, viz.,
 lots of half-baked paper-and-pencil tests for teachers and students?

_______________________________________________________________________

GENE V GLASS                                    ATGVG AT ASUACAD.BITNET
COLLEGE OF EDUCATION                            ATGVG AT ASUACVAX.BITNET
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY                        INTERNET ADDRESS:
Tempe, AZ 85287-2411                            ATGVG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
602-965-2692  (303-499-2816 from June '92 until Dec. '92)
  (While on sabbatical until Dec. '92, I can be reached at
    GLASS@SPOT.COLORADO.EDU )
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:20:09 -0700
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From:         Mary McKeown <IADMPM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Election and who will be Clinton's Sec. of Ed.?

 *** Reply to note of 11/05/92 08:52
 Donna Shalala is Chancellor at the University of Wisconsin Madison, not Hunter
 College.  She has been there for at least three years.
 Another name I have heard is Kern Alexander, former President of Western Ken-
 tucky University, now at VPI.

 Mary McKeown, Strategic Planning   IADMPM@ASUACAD
 Arizona State Univ.           _____Voice: 602 965 5326
 211 Administration AVA             FAX: 602 965 8212
 Tempe AZ 85287-2803
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From:         R Reid <SECD004@UNLVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inequities

Levins point that to bring poorer schools up would require double or
triple the funding of median districts is a good one.  The Kansas City
inner city schools are a case in point.  Although I don't know all the
details, a federal judge ruled taht the state had to increase the
funding of these schools even if it was at the expense of others.
Apparently quite a backlash has developed against this enforced equity.
During the recent ecletions it became a campaign issue and the subject
of some political smear advertisements.  Perhaps this situation is
relevant to the discussion.
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From:         gvg <ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Election and who will be Clinton's Sec. of Ed.?
              5 Nov 1992 13:38:00 GMT from <STED8013@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE>

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:38:00 GMT BILL HUNTER said:
>John Gallagher asks if educators should put forward a list of potential
>Secs. of Education.  I'm a fur'nr, but it makes sense to me and I hope
>someone will include our moderator on the list.

    Like he says, folks; he's a fur'nr.
                                        GVG

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GENE V GLASS                                    ATGVG AT ASUACAD.BITNET
COLLEGE OF EDUCATION                            ATGVG AT ASUACVAX.BITNET
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY                        INTERNET ADDRESS:
Tempe, AZ 85287-2411                            ATGVG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
602-965-2692  (303-499-2816 from June '92 until Dec. '92)
  (While on sabbatical until Dec. '92, I can be reached at
    GLASS@SPOT.COLORADO.EDU )
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From:         Charles Winborne <AGCBW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Savage Inequalities

Re: Hope for the educationally disadvantaged as a function of forced desegregat
ion or holding rich kids as hostages in poor schools, such that their parents w
ill ensure the safety, effectiveness, etc. of the school. Here is an immanent
alternative: THese issues are confronted as problems of resource distribution
which frequently are "place" related (read:neighborhood, community).  "Place"
will cease to be an issue as education enters its "virtual" incarnation.  The
bottom-line, in terms of resource distribution, for the achievement of schoolin
g not constrained by place is the creation of a national broadband communicati
ons infrastructure which features public access, accompanied by the availabilit
y of that system to each child/adult learner.  My recent proposal, via a
successful America 2000 technology-dimension offering, suggests this to William
Bennett and the Hudson Institute.  Student-Portable computers for each learner.
...the development of virtual schooling.  THose of us who are learning how to
live in the non-space constrained electronic neighborhood may feel the force
of this proposal.

Chip (Charles) Winborne   Doctoral Curriculum & Instruction (SPE)

Home Phone: 752-7905               Weekends: Sedona: 282-6410
Office Phone 965-2719              PRIDE NETWORK BBS: 965-0285
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:50:45 MST
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From:         gvg <ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Election and who will be Clinton's Sec. of Ed.?

On Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:29:23 -0400 <RMJAEGER@UNCG> said:
>                                                     However, a new and
>more interesting rumor is the possible selection of David Berliner at
>Arizona State University for Assistant Secretary for Educational Research
>and Improvement (Diane Ravitch's job, formerly held by Checker Finn).  I
>think we should encourage that selection.  It has so many elements of
>poetic justice that it's enticing and, moreover, Berliner would do a
>first-rate job.
      I'll certainly second that nomination. After the ravages of Ravitch
 and fatuousness of Finn, it wouldn't hurt to put soemone in that
 position who actually understands teaching and teachers.

_______________________________________________________________________

GENE V GLASS                                    ATGVG AT ASUACAD.BITNET
COLLEGE OF EDUCATION                            ATGVG AT ASUACVAX.BITNET
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY                        INTERNET ADDRESS:
Tempe, AZ 85287-2411                            ATGVG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
602-965-2692  (303-499-2816 from June '92 until Dec. '92)
  (While on sabbatical until Dec. '92, I can be reached at
    GLASS@SPOT.COLORADO.EDU )
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:21:05 -0600
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From:         "(jay scribner)" <jayscrib@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      listserv@asuacad

To Whom I t May Concern:

	I am a frustrated professor whose about to give up on using E	EDPOLYAN.
Ay Any assistance would be appreaciated!  Thanks in advance.

Jay Scribner
(jayscrib@UTADN X or UTA4341 or UTA3081 or @unix-host.CC.UTEXAS>.EDU)

Tel. O = 512-328-0310
	512-471-7551
From: NVHAYED@VCCSCENT.BITNET (Don Hayes)
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Subject: mission statements
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:41:53 GMT
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The comment on developing university/college wide mission statements rather
surprises me since most accrediting agencies requiere univ./col wide mission
statements, as well as specific mission statements for schools with in the
univ.. In fact in most cases the mission statement is supposed to be an
operant element at the deptment and curriculum/course level and also the
support division level.  In an informal study I did for the institutional self-
study at my current institution I reviewed a select number of mission statement
s and interviewed a select number of faculty to determine their perception of t
he effectiveness of their mission statement.  What I found was that the mission
 statement needed revision in every case to reflect what was the operant policy
 and practice at the institutions in question.  What is really needed is for
all institutions to study/revise and implement at all levels the theory and
goals contained in their mission statements.

Don Hayes, NVCC Loudoun Campus         Bitnet nvhayed @vccscent
1000 Harry Flood Byrd Highway, Sterling, Va. 20164
Telephone 703-450-2547                 FAx 703 450-2536
Ne pereat perdocere         laudatur ab his, culpatur ab illis
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Subject: Re: Election and who will be Clinton's Sec. of Ed.?
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:52:00 GMT
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What would people think about someone like William Gray or Johnnetta B. Cole
currently the President of Spellman College?
From: HM3@PSUVM.BITNET (Harold Mitzel 814/237-0242)
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Date: 6 Nov 92 21:53:00 GMT
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Comments:     530 Hillside Ave
Comments:     State College, PA 16803

Dave Berliner would do a great job as Asst. Secy of Ed. for Research.
How do we help get him appointed?   Harold Mitzel, Penn State U.
From: PROHUGH@UBVMS.BITNET (Hugh Petrie)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 17:06:07 GMT
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Kozol spoke this morning at a meeting at Buffalo.  He also spoke at the
Chautauqua Institute here in Western New York in July, so we have gotten a
lot of him lately.  He is an absolutely spell-binding story teller.  He is
expensive, but if you can get him to speak to some of your business community
types, it may be worth it.

To be only slightly more optimistic than Gene, Kozol's own major hope is to
get unequal funding for schools ruled unconstitutional, in the states where
their constitutions admit of an interpretation that an equal education is
guaranteed for all and from the federal government if the Supreme Court changes
enough to rehear a kind of Rodriguez case.


Hugh G. Petrie, Dean                            716-645-2491 (Office)
Graduate School of Education                    716-645-2479 (FAX)
367 Baldy Hall                                  PROHUGH@UBVMSD.BITNET
University at Buffalo
Buffalo, NY 14260
USA
From: jack_benninga@CSUFRESNO.EDU
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Subject: Re: Sexual Harassment
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:51:40 GMT
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              Nov 6, 92 8:36 pm

Kevin, recently Roosevelt High School in Fresno had a sexual
harrasment case that made the newspapers.  Also we've dealt with this
at the university.  You might check with the office of Dr. Deberie
Gomez, Director of Human Resources at Fresno Unified, or with Mr.
Arthur Wint (278-2364), the university's director of Affirmative
Action.  Hope this helps.  Jacques Benninga, professor of education.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:40:00 CST
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From:         "LYNN M. BURLBAW @ TAMU 845-6195" <LMB2379@TAMZEUS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Kozol

I read his book.  It is bleak and I came away with the feeling that there
had to be some better way to present the information - I liken it to all
the furor over the state of public education in the early 80s - following A
Nation at Risk we had 100s of reports telling how it is - little telling us
how we could get around to doing what we want to - Kozol's book seemed a
little short on analysis in my mind also.

If Kozol believes we need to set fewer goals and get on with accomplishing
some of the ones already identified, I agree with him.  As long as
education is in the hands of the "managers" I doubt we will see much change
- at least change that is more than smoke and mirrors.

Texas is proposing competencies to be demonstrated in social studies before
graduation - the idea sounds good, but you can't achieve the competencies
in less than 4 years of highschool.  The Carnegie Unit LIVES!!!  Seems to
me that if you can demonstrate the competencies in 4 semesters a school
ought to let you out of the place (Whoops, what are we going to do about
Avg Daily Attendance and funding - can't have them getting out of school
too soon - we won't collect all our dollars).

Oh, well

Lynn
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From:         "LYNN M. BURLBAW @ TAMU 845-6195" <LMB2379@TAMZEUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Kozol and Hostages and B.Copeland

Bennett Copeland hoped that Geen Glass's comment about holding uppper class
kids hostage in poor schools in order to mobilize parent outrage.  Think
about the many "ills" which affect society - drugs, AIDS for example.  As
long as drugs remained a ghetto or "poor" person's problems and did not
affect the middle class, drugs were not a national priority.  When did the
"Drug War" and the "Drug Czar" show up?  When the middle class found its
children under siege and falling prey to the sinister "druggies".  Drugs
were not even too much of a problem while they were limited to the hippies.
 But once mr and mrs "straight" found their children using, buying, and
getting busted for drugs DRUGS became a big focus.

Maybe that is what Gene had in mind - when poor schooling is the only thing
available to the haves, then they will make better schooling available to
everyone.  As long as the privileged can buy their way out situations,
there will be little concern over the correction of the situations.

On another thought - has anyone thought about how well Kozol's book
describes the intellectual community of the public schools - bankruptcy of
ideas, parents worried as much about child taking care of as education, the
obvious mismatch between what is delivered (used on purpose) in schools and
what students need for the future, or for the present?  Al Shanker said a
couple of months ago that parents want kids to get good grades, not endure
a rigorous education.  I believe that is true in many cases.  Kids feel tha
same way.

Lynn
From: ghartz@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU (Gary Hartzell)
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Subject: Policies on reappointment
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:50:47 GMT
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The College of Education at the University of Nebraska at Omaha is
looking into reorganizing its committee on reappointment, promotion, and
tenure.  We are very interested in how such committees are structured at
other universities.

At your university:

        1.  Who is elegible for a seat on the committee?  Certain
                ranks only?  Tenured faculty only?

        2.  If lower rank professors are allowed to sit on the
                committee, do they make decisions about faculty
                who rank higher?

        3.  Are members chosen at the department level or college-wide?

        4.  Does the Dean or Associate Dean sit in on the committee's
                deliberations as an ex-officio member or resource
                person?

Thanks in advance for whatever information you can give us.

Gary Hartzell
University of Nebraska
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From:         SSOIFFER@CLARKU.BITNET
Subject: Re: Election and who will be Clinton's Sec. of Ed.?

Donna Shalala is the name everyone was whispering at the
College Board Nat'l Forum last week, but I think they're
all plugged into the same rumor mills, of untested accuracy.

Steve Soiffer
Clark U.
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From:         Don Hayes <NVHAYED@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Election and who will be Clinton's Sec. of Ed.?

*** Reply to note of 11/06/92 16:56
Harold, I think the best way would be to have every influential democrat we
know speak to the Clinton in-group about Dave's qualifications. They should
pointout the emphasis on teachers and teaching. We ought to form an ad hoc
committee of interested individuals who are willing to speak up and out for
excellenc, no?

Don Hayes, NVCC Loudoun Campus         Bitnet nvhayed @vccscent
1000 Harry Flood Byrd Highway, Sterling, Va. 20164
Telephone 703-450-2547                 FAx 703 450-2536
Ne pereat perdocere         laudatur ab his, culpatur ab illis
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Subject:      Publications from ERIC/CRESS

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