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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 12:23:29 EST
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Subject:      Heavy metal doorknobs

> Scott --  what are you, a FAG.  "if i know my Mcintyre...".  Get off my back

Gee, that's so clever...Do you think Scott's actually going to be hurt by your
elementary-school-playground-oh-yeah-well-what-are-you response? Do you think
anyone with any education whatsoever still feels threatened by a "You're Gay"
comment? This doesn't have anything to do with being "politically correct", it
has to do with respecting other people.

By the way, there's quite a few people on this list who would've enjoyed
talking a little heavy metal/hard rock (myself, Gary, etc.) with you, but I
really doubt any of them will have the time for your narrow mind now.

Oh yeah, thanks for perpetuating the heavy-metal brain-dead stereotype...

Bob T
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:04:08 MST Miss Libby Doe said:
>
>What do you feel like playing on such a significant day?
>

Joan Armatrading, _Walk Under Ladders_


David
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Subject:      Re: What I got this weekend (as far as cds)

Mike masuda <MASUDA%SJSUVM1.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>

>BTW, does anyone out there knows a song that has the refrain
>"sailing on a sunny (or Sunday) afternoon" in high pitched harmony, kinda
>like Neil Young?

Wasn't that the Kinks?

>I don't listen to metal as much anymore, because it
>seems like it is a rehashing of old themes and ideas done long ago
>by some band in the 60s or the 70s.  The last metal album I got was
>Ozzy's "Diary of a Madman", which is a classic.

Mike, let me suggest some of the grunge bands.  If Soundgarden
doesn't get your blood pumping again, maybe you have to face it that
you're becoming o*d (chronologically gifted).

Almost Live had a wonderful parody last night of those TV record
albums.  This one was of greatest punk hits, and the announcer
said "Remember where you were when you heard that one?  I sure do --
I was laying face down in a pool of my own vomit."
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From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      stuff

  Thanks cmv for the warning on Jazz From Hell.  Make A Jazz Noise
I guess will be in the next Noteworthy purchase.  Jack Johnson and
Ask the Ages (finally!) are on their way.

  So, the man from Little ROCK won.  Yippee!  But that Fleetwood Mac
song's gotta go.

  Fret buzz can be indicative of too low a bridge or nut, and also of
a warped neck.  A $300 guitar is unlikely to have a warped neck.  If
the height of the strings is adjustable, move them up until there's
no buzz.  Oftentimes the strings are set too low, to make the guitar
feel easy to play.  Higher strings sound better anyway.  I know guitarists
that live with fret buzz in order to have easier playing.  I don't
know if they can't hear it, or just ignore it, but I can't stand it.
I'd much rather have higher action and a clean sound.

Russ
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Some idiot just blathered on saying:

> This is the GMaW of the year!!! I haven't had but two minutes to sample the
> tape, but I'll be damn if the second tune they do is my beloved Neffertiti!
> And unlike the studio version, Miles starts the head, not Shorter. The
> sound quality is very good (no worse than a third generation dub of an
> audio tape) and the video quality is not bad at all.

I screwed up on the song title. It wasn't by beloved Neffertiti at all, but
rather Footprints, which is also a really wonderful Shorter penned tune
that Miles did in 1966. I only got to hear the first 30 seconds of the
head, so I botched the song title. Upon closer inspection, I discovered
that the sound quality isn't quite as good throughout the tape, but is
still damn good considering it is a 1966 video recording. I'd say it ranges
from a 4th generation dub at times, on down to a 7th or 8th generation dub
at other times. The video quality is quite acceptable with it's share of
flaws. There are three segments taken from German TV. The first two are
from two different concerts in 1966. Although I haven't really had the
chance to listen to it all the way through, I did notice that they did
Footprints twice, once at each concert, and there is another stunning
version of Round Midnight much like the one on my Paris 1967 CD. The last
piece of footage was taken in 1968, also from a German TV broadcast. It
features Chick Corea and Jack DeJohnette. The opening announcer mentions
that Miles is playning as some sort of tribute to Duke Ellington, and he
mentions Directions. It's some pretty spacy stuff, like you'd expect from
this group. Well, I'm off to work again, but hopefully I'll actually get to
listen to the whole tape sometime tomorrow, and I'll report back with more
info at that time. Happy Trails and Later Days...

                                                     Tom "Buck-Naked" Buck
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From:         Dave <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nice Mouth!

(To be read in the voice of yer favorite Evangelical Preacher,
preferably including a Southern Drawl.)
    A SINNER!  Yes, friends a lowly minion, a demon, and a beast of
hate is among us.  He speaks with a poisoned tongue and aims to pit
fellow against fellow, friend against friend.  We must shun this evil
incarnate.  We must cast him out and with him we cast out the
devil.  Brothers and Sisters raise your hearts together.  Raise them
up and with me we can utilize the power of the Lord, for mighty is he
that believes in the Lord, and together we can cast out the evil that
lies before us.

> By the way Rev.,
>
>        Nice Mouth in the last post.
>
>             Do you use those kind of words in your sermon?
>
    Lemme guess, the above sounds familiar?  Is that better?  I
shouldn't even waste my time....
>                                    "Homos are shun in the bible and the
>                                           church"
    "Not in my Church"

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:18:44 -0500
From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      zappa

> get Roxy and Elsewhere

I had it for years, went to California for a while, came home to find
my brother had sold a bunch of my albums.  R&E was gone.  That is the kind
of playing I'm looking for though.

Russ
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From:         Dave <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Elvis Costello's latest attempt

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This is from The Los Angeles Time weekend edition of the Calendar:

-----

EC IS HERE: Elvis Costello's next album is coming with strings attached.  The
eclectic English singer-songwriter has teamed up with the London-based Brodsky
Quartet to record 20 classical-leaning love songs for "The Juliet Letters,"
due to hit record stores on Jan. 29.  Warner Bros. Records' marketing
department has appropriately highbrow promotional plans, including ads slated
to run in the non-rock 'n' roll likes of Harper's and the New Yorker.

Collaborations are nothing new to the singer, who has played with such
notables as Paul McCartney, but it's the first time he has relied on musicians
completely outside the pop music world.  Last summer, he and the quartet twice
previewed the new material - which includes "Dear Sweet Filthy World" and "I
Almost Had a Weakness" - in small English theaters.  A U.S. tour is planned to
begin in March.

                                --J. Martin McOmber

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Did anybody see those performances?

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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:38:00 CST
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Subject:      Goodbye

Please remove me from ALLMUSIC.  R. Ridinger
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:54:26 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Jimi Hendrix.
              11 Nov 1992 10:20:25 GMT from <gnmb12@MECH.GLASGOW.AC.UK>

  The address for the Hendrix mailing list is:

      hey-joe@ms.uhk.edu

all administrative mail should be sent to:

      hey-joe-request@ms.uky.edu

(they will be able to tell you how to subscribe).

The hey-joe archives are at:

      ftp.ms.uky.edu (128.163.128.6)   in   'pub/misc/hey-joe'


Hosko
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Subject: Those Were the Days and Blow Up
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:21:29 GMT
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Sonia, your Mary is Hopkins, I believe.

And Ilia, 1965 sounds right for "Blow Up".  I remember seeing it when
it first came out and that squares with my recollections.  The Yardbirds
were always a pretty heavy band when they weren't blitzed out of their
minds.

From the same year, I recall a Who/Herman's Hermits concert in Balto.
The Who were the opening act, and when they were done just about everybody
walked out.  The cute Merseybeat thing had essentially ended by 1965,
I seem to recall.  That's about when "Are You Experienced?" came out.
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From: doug@oregon.uoregon.edu (doug anders)
Subject: Miles - Someday my Prince...
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:58:31 GMT

Somebody (I can't remember who) questioned my inclusion of Miles' Someday my 
Prince Will Come on my "best of" list. IMHO it's one of his best because, 
simply put, he and the rest of the group demonstrate can they do: 
 "Simplicity is beautiful" to a fine art. Although Old Folks drags a 
little, I love the rest of the album. Trane does play a bitchin' solo on the 
title track, but I also love Miles' simple but majestic solos throughout the 
album. Although Someday me Prince... is not my absolute favorite Miles 
Davis album and it has a few rough spots, it is a great example of the 
more "contemplative" side of Miles. But, I like just about everything I've 
heard Miles play except Water Babies and most of his pop stuff from the 
80's. Call me indiscriminant if you must.

- Doug
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Sonia said:

>next to getting the job:  at my guitar lesson last night I was totally
>flipped out from continuing to work on my proposal at a mad, mad pace (due
>tomorrow) and I guess this improved my playing because my guitar teacher
>ACTUALLY said (and he doesn't hand out free compliments): "That's nice stuff."
>I'm still walking on air from that, and what's weird is that I play my best
>when I'm so spaced/freaked/weirded out that I just try anything... Is there a
>moral here?  Excuse this personal stuff but wanted to share with all my net
>friends.  You have to remember I'm a kindergarten guitar player trying really
>hard to get into the first grade.  YOWZA!!!!

How do you think people come up with new chords on the guitar?
I think most of them come about from just messin around on the
guitar, or a blatant misfire on a chord being played by an amateur.
A group of us were jamming one day, and my friend John (a beginner
guitar player) blurted out a sound from his guitar not knowing
where his fingers were--it turned out to be a great opening chord
for a song, so we kept it.  Pure serendipity.

Hats off to Sonia for taking her first step into guitardom! :) :) :)

Mike Masuda
    YOWZA                                                                   
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:43:25 EST
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Subject:      A machine of a dream...

Ilia, talking about Queen, said:

>Thank you, Mark. Now I finally realized why this song was associated
>(in my mind) with heavy guitar playing power chords. Isn't the next song
>on _A Night at the Opera_ about 'a machine of a dream'?

Yep, the song's called "I'm in Love with My Car". At least I think it comes
right after "Lazing on a..."?

On a similar subject, I was listening to "Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...)"
from the same album the other day and once again pondered who the song may be
about. Did anyone ever hear if this was actually written with a particular
person in mind? If so, it was a pretty vicious attack (ya gotta love it)!

Bob T
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Subject:      Ozzy

Netters,
        I have a question that's been on my mind for a while. Ozzy is
coming to the end of his career. There won't be anymore opportunities for
him to really kick some musical ass after he retires. There's a buzz that
he is going to have another tour before he retires. This talk is getting me
really excited. Before I get my hopes up, I'd like to know if anyone else
has heard this? Also, does anyone know this for a fact? I would be thankful
for any information that aynone has. Thanx!

                                                Mikey
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: buckethead
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:00:28 GMT

In article <921107095327.28c0d75e@UNHH.UNH.EDU> "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU> writes:
>   That Buckethead guy has been writing columns in Guitar mag. for a while
>now.  I always thought he was somebody like Vai in disguise.  Praxis sure
>sounds like a hot band; is Transmutation their only offering?
>
>Russ

They have an album on Celloid from around 1984.  It is just called
Praxis.  If I remember correctly, they were using a lot of "found
sounds" probably sampled and played from a drum pad or keyboard.
They liner notes don't mention anyone, but they thank Nick Skopelitis.

Jeff
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From: s0383619@let.rug.nl (J.J.G.M. Nijhuis)
Subject: Re: Little Wing
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:25:45 GMT

In article <9211081535.aa22712@thama1.apgea.army.mil> gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL (Can I borrow your towel for a sec, writes:
>From: gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL (Can I borrow your towel for a sec,
>Subject: Little Wing
>Date: 8 Nov 92 20:35:34 GMT
>Skid Row just recently released an album titled _B Sides Ourselves_. Also,
>from that album, they just released a video (that can only be seen on
>Headbanger's Ball on MTV (mainly cuz that's the only time I watch MTV))
>called "Little Wing."
>
>Who originally did "Little Wing"?

It's already said that it's a Hendrix song. I want to add to that:
PLEASE LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL!!!! Little Wing is a great song by a very 
great guitarist and most of its covered versions really screw up the beauty 
of it. 

Jurgen Nijhuis
University of Groningen
The Netherlands
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Knowing far better and against his better judgement, Bob responds to Daron:

What's with the attitude? Every single one of your posts has been complete
hostility, even when it wasn't warranted. You claim you like heavy metal, yet
you haven't added any opinions to the recent posts. You could have jumped in
with your feelings about your favourite Judas Priest albums, but you preferred
to accuse instead.

I know what you're like...You enjoy people getting pissed off at you. You
like everybody thinking you're an asshole. You probably invited all your
little friends to read some of the backlash against you (I'm sure they also
helped you with your clever witticisms). Makes you feel like you're a real
man and you don't take any crap from anyone. Well sorry pal, I don't think
anyone here hates you, I think we're all just filled with a little sadness and
pity...

I can't give you the finger since you're blind (to paraphrase from that Luna
                                                quote),
I can't reason with you since you're deaf,
I can't explain things to you since you're dumb,
so I'll just ignore you...

> "Homos are shun in the bible and the
>        church"

Maybe in yours and Jerry Falwell's church, but not by any person with some
intelligence and human decency (two things you obviously do not have).

Bob T
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Leonard,

I'm not a homosexual but I don't think it is kosher to ask such a
question so openly to anyone.

I have a few friends who happen to be gay, and none of them like to
have their preferences known very openly.  It's none
of my business to tell, and none of your business to ask.

back to music

Mike.
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From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
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              4 Nov 1992 21:04:12 -0500 from <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 21:04:12 -0500 The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny said:
>Is anyone seeing this message? For the last two days all my messages to
>ALLMUSIC have been bounced back to me.

Yep, we see you. The problem seems to be that a subscriber, FCELCRUZ@CIUC2.
UC.PT, is no longer in existence but still on the list. My mail to the list
is being bounced from a mail server at that site to me (which is not really
supposed to happen for List mail). I sent a note to the ALLMUSIC list owner
last week, but haven't received a response and it's still going on, so I
guess I'll try again.

Paul Heroy
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From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: a melody that I know not the name of....

On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:37:05 PST Mike said:
>Okay, here's a nastier challenge:
>
>This has no words or lyrics to my knowledge, so I'll have to
>enter it as note information:
>
>C D E F G A B C D E    (notes used on the keyboard, no black keys)
>1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2
>
>Here it is:
>
>1234 1234 1234 1234  1234 1234 1234 1234  (time)
>E    D  C B A  G     A CB C  A GAG  E     (note)
>2    2  2 1 1  1     1 21 2  1 111  1     (octave)
>
"Blue, blue, my world is blue
Blue is my world, now I'm without you... "

>It's a staple of muzak and I would like to hear the original....
>
Love is Blue, mus. by Andre Popp (really!)
              Eng. words by Brian Blackburn.
             a hit by (yawn) Paul Mauriat and his Orchestra.
Now the damn thing's stuck in my head.
Still here,
Rick
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:47:43 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Etta James

I noticed Etta has a new album and the sticker on it said Raw & Blues
it was recorded in Muscle Shoals and produced by Jerry Wexler, has anyone
heard any of it, or read any reveiews on it......L.W.
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