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From: martin@iastate.edu (Martin R Calsyn)
Subject: Re: NT not multiuser, then Unix is not a competing OS
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:16:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.133233.28477@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de> hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter) writes:
>There is something, that also contradicts to your opinion: When you go to
>the Control Panel, select services and then configure a service you can
>choose to start this service under the system account (get full access)
>or to supply a Userid/Password to start the service under a different
>security context.

True enough, but not the effect I'm after - I don't want to start a
service under a particular static user identitiy, but rather want the
service (telnetd) to accept cleartext user authentication as part of its
initial interaction with a remote connection.

>The appropriate way to start a telnetd, would be to run it through the
>Service API (NET START TELNETD).

Without a doubt, but this still doesn't solve the basic problem.

> Maybe someone from Microsoft can comment
> on this.

Well, here's hoping...  MicroSoft has been quite responsive on
Compuserve, its just that their responses, while timely, concise and
informative, haven't been the responses I was hoping for.  :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rickt@rmtc.paramax.com (Rick Thompson [RMTC/ISP])
Subject: WIN32 SDK
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:01:19 GMT


Hello,

  I'm considering getting the WIN32 SDK from Microsoft and was curious
  about the following:

    How well does NT run current Windows 3.0 and 3.1 apps. such as ProComm,
    Microsoft Access, WordPerfect, Word etc...?

    How well doest NT run most DOS apps?

    Is the C++ compiler shipped any good. (You determine what good is)

    Is the development environment GUI?


  Any help would be appreciated.

  Thanks,

  Rick  rickt@rmtc.paramax.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: Win32s on Beta SDK CDROM?
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:53:20 GMT

In <37310ae9@ofa123.fidonet.org> Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>On <Jan 02 19:49> Chris Marriott writes:
>
> CM> Win32s, even in the beta, seems to work well.  I've ported a fairly
> CM> large application to NT and it runs beautifully under Windows 3.1 as
> CM> well, using the Win32s DLLs.
>
>Has anybody managed to get it to work with a Network installation?  We could
>only get it to work here with a private Windows installation.

Yes, me! We are running an MS-LANMAN 2.1a network. We have installed Windows
in E:\WIN and the private files (*.INI, WIN.COM, etc.) in C:\WINDOWS. I put
all the WIN32s files in E:\WIN\WIN32S (manually) and included
"device=E:\WIN\WIN32S\W32S.386" in the SYSTEM.INI of the local machine.
That was all. No changes to the PATH variable or anything else. It is working
perfectly.

Christoph
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From: anoosh@wildcat.mti.sgi.com (Anoosh Hosseini)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Unicode + textout
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:02:34 GMT
Reply-To: anoosh@mti.sgi.com  (Anoosh Hosseini)
Organization: SGI, Mips Technologies Inc
NNTP-Posting-Host: wildcat.mti.sgi.com

Reading over Unicode sections of the on-line-help, though there seems
to be good support for 2byte-wide strings in NT, there is not much written
about output of Unicode text. 

-Does textout continue to expect 1 byte strings? (looks like it)
-There is no function that knows how to deal with a multi-lingual string.
 The solution being to cut up the Unicode string into sub-strings and 
 performing appropriate textout with appropriate fonts.

-How are fonts related to languages etc... How do I ask  "do we have
 a spanish font installed?"


thanks,

-anoosh
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: robert@koko.csustan.edu (Robert Zeff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: NT not multiuser, then Unix is not a competing OS
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:43:35 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <145498@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian) writes:
>In the most recent issue of Corporate Computing there is a very bried overview
>of Windows NT.  One thing which absolutely floored me was their claim that
>NT is *not* a multiuser system.  Is this true?  I find it exceedingly hard
>to imagine this possible.

NI *is* multiuser via net login form another NT workstation.  It is not
currently working in the October beta, though.

-robert

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny)
Subject: Re: Windows NT October Beta
Date: 05 Jan 93 21:11:45 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

Upgrades are sent automatically to everyone who has
bought the SDK. No need to do anything.

-Dwight (MS)
Win32 SDK prod mgr
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: Windows NT October Beta
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:57:00 GMT

In <1993Jan5.175601.18444@pony.Ingres.COM> rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy - RADS 1001/2) writes:
>An individual at Microsoft told me that it was not; it only said *beta*
>becuase they were preparing for the beta release, but were forced to put
>it out early (i.e., before it was ready), thus it is just another
>preliminary release.
>
It depends on what you call a beta. If you call a program a beta only,
if all features are already included, but not fully tested, this release
is not a beta. Some people are calling it a late alpha.

>Also I have been hearing rumors that another, real beta, is coming. Anyone
>care to speculate on *when*?
>

Rumors say, that the next release will be in February, but we have to wait
until MS officially announces the next release.

Christoph
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From: tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Installation/Configuration problems with Oct Beta
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:24:25 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00i.informatik.uni-erlangen.de


>This error was reported from many people having only 8 MB RAM. How much
>do you have in this machine? Also, if you have a Token-Ring-Card installed,
>there are problems running DOS-Apps. There is a fix available for it on
>CI$ in Library 1(?) of the WINNT Forum, called WNT002.ZIP, which contains
>a new NTOSKRNL.EXE and NTVDM.EXE. Maybe you should try this one.

>I personally had not trouble running NT on a Model 90 with an IBM-Token-
>Ring-Card installed.

>Christoph
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>Christoph H. Hochstaetter, Philipps-University Marburg | Universitaetsstr. 25
>Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
>Bitnet  : HOCHSTAE AT DMRHRZ11                         | Germany
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Hello, for those of us who dont have access to CS, would it
be possible for anyone to upload wnt002.zip to cica, or for
ms people to upload it to ftp.uu.net ???

Many thanks in advance !
Torsten
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: Do you use a MS mouse?
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:43:08 GMT

In <1993Jan6.170126.26990@netcom.com> erc@netcom.com (Eric Smith) writes:
>
>I have a question for someone who uses a Microsoft mouse, because I am
>trying to find out if mine is broken.  It handles poorly, and I thought
>I just had to wait till I got used to it, but it's still just as bad.
>
>If you turn your mouse over, such that gravity makes the ball fall a
>short distance into its hole, does the ball go completely inside the
>mouse, or does part of it still stick out?  I suspect mine might have
>something loose inside that makes it go too far into its hole, such
>that in normal operation the ball bounces a little, causing it to skip.

On my Microsoft Mouse the ball falls only a little bit into the mouse.
If I put a paper sheet over the mouse, it doesn't touch ball, but the
distance is no more than 1mm (0.04 inches).

Another hint: Get the ball out of the mouse and move the rolls inside.
So you can see, if the movement is ok. Also make sure, that there is no
dust on the ball.

Christoph
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From: awade@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (Allen Wade)
Subject: Re: Reading the NT cd-rom on Sun Sparc???
Organization: US WEST
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:11:40 GMT


In article <1992Dec30.213315.9783@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, jas@wdc.sps.mot.com writes:
> 
> Hi folks,
>    Does any one know if it is possible to use the Sun cd-rom players
> to read the beta NT cd-rom??
>    Or put another way, is the NT cd-rom format the HSFS or ISO-9660??
I have used a Sun external CD-ROM with no problems. 

> 
> Any help on this subject would be appericated.
> 
> Thanks
> jas
> 
> 

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From: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT not multiuser, then Unix is not a competing OS
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:02:28 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

In the most recent issue of Corporate Computing there is a very bried overview
of Windows NT.  One thing which absolutely floored me was their claim that
NT is *not* a multiuser system.  Is this true?  I find it exceedingly hard
to imagine this possible.

If it is true, then why have I heard so much talk about NT being a threat to
the Unix marketplace?  A single-user OS might be a threat to Unix in the world
of micros, but I don't think Unix has a very large share of that market
in the first place.  Why would anyone want a single-user OS on a larger
platform? And why port NT to platforms based on the Alpha or MIPS chips?  Are 
there small systems being built around these chips which one might to run 
single-user?

Can anyone elaborate on this?

mb
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: NT not multiuser, then Unix is not a competing OS
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16g by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:41:35 GMT

In <145498@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian) writes:
>In the most recent issue of Corporate Computing there is a very bried overview
>of Windows NT.  One thing which absolutely floored me was their claim that
>NT is *not* a multiuser system.  Is this true?  I find it exceedingly hard
>to imagine this possible.
>
>If it is true, then why have I heard so much talk about NT being a threat to
>the Unix marketplace?  A single-user OS might be a threat to Unix in the world
>of micros, but I don't think Unix has a very large share of that market
>in the first place.  Why would anyone want a single-user OS on a larger
>platform? And why port NT to platforms based on the Alpha or MIPS chips?  Are
>there small systems being built around these chips which one might to run
>single-user?
>

NT is a Multi-User OS. Each process has his own security context. The only
restriction is, that after you have logged off, you loose the ownership of
the screen-device. But this is the same on UNIX workstations (e.g.
SPARCstations), when you log off all windows close.

Christoph
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Christoph H. Hochstaetter, Philipps-University Marburg | Universitaetsstr. 25
Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: 16-bit Windows Sockets for Oct '92 Win32 SDK for Windows NT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:52:00 GMT

In <8#xr!+-@microsoft.com> Alistair Banks <alistair@microsoft.com> writes:
>
>The file wsock16.zip is available now via anonymous ftp, from
>ftp.uu.net[192.48.96.9], in the
>~ftp/vendor/microsoft/windows-sockets-api directory

Do you by chance also have a working NETBIOS-Api for the WIN16 subsystem?
NETBIOS-Calls do work under DOS, but not under WIN16 (INT 0x5C and
NetBiosCall both fail)

Christoph
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Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: socket support in Win3.1? (was: Re: 16-bit Windows Sockets for Oct '92 Win32 SDK for Windows NT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:34:08 GMT

In <1993Jan6.165206.17714@titan.inmos.co.uk> jeremy@cheetah.inmos.co.uk (Jeremy Thorp) writes:
>What is the position of socket support on 'normal' Windows 3.1? What's available (from
>Microsoft or not)? How much does it/they cost?

All I know, is that they are included in DOS-Client of LM 2.1a and work
fine. I don't know, if there is a seperate product available from MS,
but I would be interested in that too.

Christoph
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Christoph H. Hochstaetter, Philipps-University Marburg | Universitaetsstr. 25
Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
Bitnet  : HOCHSTAE AT DMRHRZ11                         | Germany
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From: garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT & Future Domain TMC-1680
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 00:06:45 HKT
Organization: Global Network Communication Technology Co.

Hi,

Has anyone been able to install NT(Oct) on a system using TMC-1680 SCSI
controller. I always got the famous '0x69' error which I believe is hard disk
controller related.

Thanks for any help in advance.

-gary


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From: eli@Metaphor.COM (Eli Lauris)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Tape Backup on NT
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:20:28 GMT
Reply-To: eli@Metaphor.COM (Eli Lauris)
Organization: m4


I am trying to set up periodic, automated tape backups from NT machine.  The NT's backup tool does not seem to include any scheduling features.  However, the meager help information implies that you can run backups from batch file.  

Has anyone succeeded to automating tape backups on NT ?  I'd appreciate any information on this subject.

Eli Lauris
eli@metaphor.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: mobrien@telesciences.com (Mark W O'Brien)
Subject: CYRIX Chips and NT
Organization: TeleSciences CO Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:37:39 GMT

Are there any compatibility issues with the CYRIX CPU chips in operating
with NT?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott)
Subject: Creating a DOS boot disk with NT installed
Distribution: world
Organization: None
Reply-To: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:45:51 +0000

I'm probably doing something stupid here, but I'd appreciate some help.
I can't create a DOS boot disk now I have the NT "FlexBoot" bootloader
installed on my system.  If I do a "format /s" I just a bootable disk
which complains that it can't find "NTLDR".

*How* do you create bootable floppy disks with NT installed?
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From: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy - RADS 1001/2)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Windows NT October Beta
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:56:01 GMT
Reply-To: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy - RADS 1001/2)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <93005.161416HELLER@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE> HELLER@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Thomas Heller) writes:
>I'm interrested in testting the windowsNT beta release.
>
>Thomas Heller
>University of Muenster, Germany

This reminds me of a question that I have been meaning to ask for while:

Was the Oct. 1992 release *REALLY*  a beta release?

An individual at Microsoft told me that it was not; it only said *beta*
becuase they were preparing for the beta release, but were forced to put
it out early (i.e., before it was ready), thus it is just another 
preliminary release.

Also I have been hearing rumors that another, real beta, is coming. Anyone
care to speculate on *when*?

Rion


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: romer@moray.cs.washington.edu (Ted Romer)
Subject: Re: status of GNU Emacs for Windows/NT ?
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Organization: /homes/gws/romer/.organization
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:09:49


Here's what Congruent says about their port of Emacs and other GNU stuff:

> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 15:11:59 est
> From: info@congruent.com (Congruent Information)
> To: romer@cs.washington.edu
> In-Reply-To: romer@cs.washington.edu's message of Tue, 1 Dec 92 22:44:49 -0800 <9212020644.AA15532@moray.cs.washington.edu>
> Subject: Emacs for NT?
> 
> Sorry for the delay in responding to your inquiry.  The Emacs is real
> GNU Emacs.  The only feature known not to work in the current release
> of ToolBuster is shell windows.  This will be fixed in a future
> release, and you will receive all updates free of charge until the NT
> product ships.
> ----
> 
> Congruent Information			Congruent Corporation
> info@congruent.com                      110 Greene Street
> 212-431-5100                            New York, New York 10012
> fax 219-1532
> ----
>    Date: Tue, 1 Dec 92 22:44:49 -0800
>    From: romer@cs.washington.edu
> 
>    >27. Is there a version of EMACS for Windows NT, yet?
>    >
>    >A. Congruent has ported GNU Emacs and many other GNU tools to Windows NT.
>    >   They publish the Toolbuster CD-ROM. Send mail to info@congruent.com.
> 
>    I'd like details on what's available for NT.  How complete is your
>    version of Emacs?
>
From: Ken.Blackney@noc.Drexel.Edu (Ken Blackney)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Using Sun CD (Sony 801) w/Adaptec 1742
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:41:02 GMT
Organization: Drexel Univ -- Telecom & Networking
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2

Is it possible to use Sun's desktop CD with the October release?  I have
an Adaptec 1742 in enhanced mode.  When the CD drive is connected, the
1742 reports a Sony 801 then the system hangs (never gets to read the
boot sector on the Quantum 425 SCSI HD).

I do not need the drive to install (NT already installed using WinNT.EXE)
or for CD audio.  I just want to read other CDs.  While you're thinking
about this, can the drive be used from DOS for standard Windows 3.1 use?

Thanks much,
Ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32