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From: paw7w@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Perry Alan David Wood)
Subject: Printer Driver Error/Port Redirection
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:55:44 GMT

I successfully installed OS/2 and installed a CMD file in the startup folder
that would redirect LPT1 to COM1, using the following command:
           spool /d:lpt1 /o:com1
This was to accomodate some DOS programs that can print to LPT1 only (our
printer is on COM1).  This worked fine until I deleted the printer object that
was created during installation.  Now I have recreated the printer object using
the template object.  Printing to COM1 works fine in OS/2 and DOS, but now
when I try to print to LPT1 in DOS I get the following message:
	The printer driver file is in error or not present.  Please reinstall
	your printer driver. [PMV6017]
Did I delete some driver along with the original printer object, and if so,
how  can I reinstall it without reinstalling the system?
   Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Booting real DOS in a window
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:37:52 GMT

I'm having trouble with booting "real" DOS in a window under OS/2.
In the red book it says there are three ways to do this:
1) from a floppy
2) from a floppy image on the hard drive
3) from the hard drive

Method #1 - booting from a floppy works OK.
I haven't tried #2.
I can't get method #3 to work. As far as I can tell I'm doing everything
that the red book says I should do. Has anyone else gotten this to
work.

I'm using DR-DOS ver. 6.0 for both the floppy and hard disk boot, with
exactly the same autoexec and config.sys files. When I try the hard
disk boot I get:

Loading ...
Can't load DOS file

Then it just sits there and I have to kill it.

Thanks for any help.


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From: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: impressions of window
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:43:24 EST
Reply-To: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

David Boles wrote on 07-30-92 regarding IMPRESSIONS OF WINDOWS NT:

DB>So what we are going to be offered sometime in 1993, is an OS that is
DB>partly targeted at things like a Silicon Graphics 4-8 R4000 processor
DB>compute/file server that will only allow one person on at a time.

Hold it.  Whoever gave your presentation obviously didn't have his act 
together.  The server product that Microsoft is planning to debut will 
consist of NT **AND** Lan Manager for NT, which is most definitely 
multi-user.

DB>Start clicking, however, and you quickly realize that things
DB>are _very_ shallow (i.e., fancy looking and sounding icons have 
DB>nothing but simple text display windows that pop up when activated, the 
DB>help system wasn't working in the examples I tried, etc.).

The version of NT being distributed to developers is a **pre-BETA**.  The 
intent of the release was to get developers going on the Win32 32-bit API, 
**not** to test an end-user type product.  That process starts in 
September when the wide-area BETA goes out.

DB>It was the most underwhelming first meeting I have ever had with a 
DB>piece of product.

As you approached it from an end-user perspective this certainly does not 
surprise me.

Roj

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From: ejdeal@terri.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Running only CMD.EXE and not the WPS?
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:17:50 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmchs!auschs!terri.austin.ibm.com!ejdeal
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division


In article <12324@coxm>, coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox) writes:
> 
>     Can OS/2 2.0 be booted without the WPS (WorkPlace Shell) and run only
>     CMD.EXE?
> 
>      If YES then . . .
> 1) what are the files/commands/parameters to be changed to do this, and
> 2) does dual boot affect 1)?
> 
> We're hoping to use OS/2 2.0 as a server but we're not in need of a graphical
> interface (actually, for speed, memory, disk, cost reasons we can't afford to
> have it running).
> 

You can achieve this by changing a couple of lines in the 
CONFIG.SYS.  First, change RUNWORKPLACE=CMD.EXE.  This 
tells OS/2 to use the command interpreter for the interface
rather than WPS.  You can, however, still run PM apps
becase PMSHELL is still loaded.  To do this, start a
program from the command line.

If you do not wish to run any PM apps (run full-screen only),
you can also change the PMSHELL line to CMD.EXE.

You should be able to start several tasks and switch between
them using the ALT-TAB key (CTRL-ESC is a WPS function).

Hope this works

Eric Deal 
    
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: chris.chambers@rose.com (chris chambers)
Subject: Dvorak switches to OS
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 02:37:05 GMT
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Date Entered: 07-25-92 21:31
Various people commented

> It's interesting now that Zachmann has resigned, another ZD
> columnist has gone to OS/2.  I wonder what PC Week will do now?

and

> He said that now that he's tried OS/2, he can't imagine using anything
> else!  Sounds like a pretty definitive resolution on his part ... ZD might
> just have to deal.

People put too much emphasis on what columnists writes and say they
use.  Today Dvorak is hot on the product and he is a hero and his
comments are used as shining examples on why everybody should follow
his advice.  Tomorrow he has a few problems, hears rumours about
some new whiz bang system and reports that IBM has missed the boat
again.   His previous supporters now jump right in step with him,
feel let down, or say that he was a bum anyway and who listens to
him.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, and I do not want to
start a debate over it, but I really hope that people would be more
objective and use and support what is right for them, or what they
believe the product could/will be.  Read and absort all the
information available, and then make your own decisions.

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From: heiland@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (david.j.heiland)
Subject: Re: Tetris gripe
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:53:00 GMT

From article <1992Jul24.021611.12788@panix.com>, by os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.):
> Time out - didn't OS/2 2.0 beta have a version of Tetris?  Yes, it did;
>...

Let's hope they have enough sense to put it back in for the next 
shrinkwrapped version of OS/2.  At least include it in the applets
that are supposed to come out "this fall".  Why they don't release
half of them now, and the rest later I don't know.  I imagine most
of them must be fully tested by now.

Yes, its only a game, but I've watched a few people sit down with an OS/2
I installed and try out solitaire.  The dithering looked so bad, that they
just basically felt that OS/2 looked lousy.  Why doesn't IBM include 
16 color graphics along with the 256 color playing cards - it makes a much 
nicer impression for those just browsing OS/2 in standard VGA mode.

Dave Heiland  djh@neptune.att.com
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Idea for a unique delete?(for lack of a better description)
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:21:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul28.021155.2322@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>Terrific idea.  Another possibility: have an icon of a shark (Jaws)
>gobbling things on the screen.

Well, if you want a silly interface, I've had this idea for the Mac
for years:

As more icons get added to the trash, the can swells bigger and bigger
(right now, it swells to a fixed size if there's anything in it, and
looks normal only with nothing in it).  When you pick "Empty Trash", a
truck drives up and dumps the icons out of the can into the truck (you
see the icons being dumped from can into truck).  The files are
removed when the truck drives off the screen.  At any time, you could
click on the truck (flag it down?) an extract something from it before
it gets away.

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From: medin@cod.nosc.mil (Ted Medin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Looking for a scsi external cd-rom drive
Keywords: csi cd-rom
Date: 25 Jul 92 05:38:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego


 I am looking for a scsi external cd-rom that works with os2. If you have
one running how about what it is (including model) and how its working.
Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: HPFS from DOS
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:23:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.165410.10133@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dtl8v@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Heraclitus) writes:
>  Actually, it seems to me that the FSFILTER.SYS is necessary to
>access the boot drive (hard drive C:) in write mode regardless of
>whether the drive is formatted in HPFS or DOS.  Will FSFILTER.SYS work
>if I boot from a DOS floppy after re-formatting my hard drive for HPFS
>so that I can access the data on the hard drive under a separate DOS
>session, without loading OS/2 or using specific DOS sessions etc.?

No.
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From: ressler@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Mike "IR" Ressler)
Subject: Re: RAM disks in DOS sessions
Organization: UH IfA and NASA Infrared Telescope Facility
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 09:09:14 GMT

In article <exujlg.115.0@exu.ericsson.se> exujlg@exu.ericsson.se (Jon L. Gauthier) writes:
>In article <92206.084129GERLACHJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Jim Gerlach <GERLACHJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>EMS memory (1.5 Mb) but will use a RAM disk if available. Is it possible to
>>setup a virtual RAM disk for the full screen DOS session I use to run this
>>app (I have 8 Mb of RAM)?
>
>Now, what use is a ram drive if it is written as a character device? ;)
>Seriously, can someone enlighten us if it's possible to do this?

You can load vdisk.sys in your config.sys file. This has the property of
being available for all sessions, including OS/2, which may or may not be
what you want. I always have a 1 Meg ramdisk defined - of course, I have 16
Meg RAM so I can throw away a Meg without killing performance. You may not 
want to do this with only eight. I have not tried doing it for a single DOS
session ...

Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: stidolph@leland.Stanford.EDU (Wayne Stidolph)
Subject: Re: Redbooks have Arrived (3/4) (9 days from call)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 03:58:48 GMT

dougb@novell.com (Doug Barlow) writes:
>
>I aslo received my volumes 1, 2, and 4.  So I called my local IBM
>office (which also happens to be the place I ordered them from) and a
>very friendly person told me that volume 3 is on back order and is
>due to ship after August 1st.
>
I got my Redbooks 1, 2, and 4; waited; and Redbook Volume 3 showed up
about 15 July or so.

Wayne

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From: Jeff.Tomich@f230.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jeff Tomich)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Thanks for the disk space
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:19:08 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/230

Hi Bailey,
   Again and again, I have installed and installed and installed OS2 on my
486 33Mhz box with no problems. BUT! once your in, that's where problems keep
comming and comming! I had nothing but crashes, non bootup's, incompatible applications, VGA only mode, etc. 

The time I've spent re-installing this better than DOS or better than windows clocked in more hours than I've spent fishing in 1 summer trying to get the big one. OH, well IBM I do not have the patients to grow during your infant stages of a child. I'll just wait until you get up to OS2 version 5.0.

Thanks for the memories.....



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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: changing working directory for Windows apps running under OS/2
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:09:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.143700.611@calmasd.prime.com> kjb@calmasd.prime.com (Ken Brucker) writes:
>A couple weeks ago I posted this same question but had to leave town
>unexpectedly for a week so I missed any followup that may have occured. 
>But to the point ...
>I'm trying to get some Windows applications to startup using different default
>directories from the ones they happen to reside in.  For example, try as I
>might I have been unable to have Word for Windows start with a default
>directory of anything other than c:/winword.  So everytime I start the
>application and want to work on specific files I need to change the directory
>spec in the "Open" dialog.

With specific reference to Word all you need to do is create a macro
(in Word BASIC) called AutoExec.  This macro will execute
automatically with each startup.  To cause Word to change directories,
just use one line in the macro:

ChDir "C:\docs"

(replace C:\docs with whatever directory you wish to use).

Since Win-OS/2 is based on Windows 3.0, and since Windows 3.0 forgot
to include this obviously useful feature that has been in OS/2 since
at least Version 1.3, it didn't make it into OS/2 2.0's Windows
compatibility.  With the Windows 3.1 update I anticipate IBM will
incorporate default directories for Windows applications.

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From: Hauke_Hess@p4.f302.n242.z2.fidonet.org (Hauke Hess)
Subject: Speed OS/2 vrs. Windoze. Where is the point?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
X-Comment-To: (Steven White)
Organization: Why do you care what other peaple think 

 > OS/2 is also showing poor performance on my 386SX 16 with 6 megs.
 > Using the 386test burn-in testing program in vanilla DOS 5 and OS/2
 > with a single, full-screen DOS window yielded the following:

 >             Calculations/sec (with turbo) | Calculations/sec (turbo off)
 > DOS 5      |          9980                |            6595
 > OS/2 2.0   |          1716                |            1469

Please leave us alone with your benchmarks. Always remember: there are lies, 
bloody lies and benchmarks. Yours was one of the bloodiest benchmarks I've ever 
seen.

Sorry, only serious. Your benchmark doesn't matter if you don't happen to
calculate fractals all the time. The main question is: do you feel it while 
using DOS in OS/2? Do you really think, all the participants of this newsgroup 
are dump and even more slow than OS/2 or how do you explain why anyone uses DOS 
in OS/2 if the performance loss would be that large?

Noone noticed until now, and if you think a little longer about your hardware
configuration, you might notice that you used a 386SX, that means: a 16Bit CPU. 
Yes, 16Bit, try to imagine what happens if you do a context switch on a 32Bit 
architecture that is emulated by a 16Bit Bus. It really halves performance (if 
not more). And if OS/2 works in the background on the fly on a real 32Bit Bus, 
it crawls on 16Bit. Try the same on a 386DX and post the benchmark once more. 
Perhaps you will be surprised (perhaps we will be surpries, but I don't believe 
in this)

Hauke

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From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: Seamless Drivers for Trident 8900c ??
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 03:07:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.121915.26412@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>Trident have supplied the full range of SVGA drivers for the 8900c, but the
>only seamless SVGA driver is the 800x600x16. I use the 800x600x256, though,
>because I have dumped all my Windows apps, and Windows is the only thing
>affected. Wolfenstien 3D needs 256! :-)

Have you gotten Wolfenstien 3D to run in a window then? I tried it
under the 640x480x256 Orchid driver and it froze...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: What OS/2 needs
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:10:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.201051.1525346@zeus.calpoly.edu> jemenake@zeus.calpoly.edu (Joe Emenaker) writes:
>Well, after recently having OS/2 crash and refuse to boot... claiming it
>was missing a DLL it needed, I'd say that OS/2 needs a utility that lets
>you re-load some of the necessary files from the distribution disks. In
>fact, going a step further, they could have the file look at some sort of
>error-log and figure out for itself what files needed to be reloaded.
>In fact, best of all would be if the program automatically ran whenever
>OS/2 ran into a problem booting.

It seems that the FAT default is _not_ to run AutoCheck, when it
really should.  I will be incorporating this advice in the forthcoming
FAQ List, but you really should have:

DISKCACHE=64,LW,AC:C

in your CONFIG.SYS (with a larger cache size and/or more hard drives
if C is not the only FAT drive on your system).

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From: jc70@westend.VI.CMU.EDU (Joo C. Chung)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Has anyone made a Boot Disk?
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:36:47 GMT
Reply-To: jc70@norman.vi.ri.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Jul21.185351.4591@unixg.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas  
Wong) writes:
> Has anyone tried making a boot disk (as opposed to the usual install
> disk then disk 1 then Esc key)? I grabbed the bootdisk.txt file from
> ftp-os2 site, and followed it to make myself a bootdisk. I tried
> booting from it and OS/2 booted up just fine. But when I tried to do a
> "dir" on C:\, I get the error.....
> 
> SYS00026: The specified disk or disketter cannot be accessed.
> 
> I'm using the Boot Manager for DOS 5 and OS/2, and at this point Drive C: 
> is my OS/2 system partition formated as HPFS. Now if I ran DOS last so that
> my DOS system partition was my last bootable partition so that when I boot
> from floppy, my Drive C: would still be my DOS system partition which
> is FAT, I can read it ok using this OS/2 bootdisk. It's just if I ran OS/2
> last so that my OS/2 HPFS is now Drive C:, booting from this OS/2
> bootdisk now, it doesn't recognize this HPFS or some problem like this.
> 
> Has anyone been successful with a bootdisk? Thanks.
> 
> Thomas.

I'm not sure the problem is with the boot disk. If the OS/2 partition is a  
primary partition and not an extended logical partition, then you won't be able  
to see the OS/2 partition from dos or from the boot disk. And you won't be able  
to see the DOS partition from OS/2. So....repartition your hard disk. Make DOS  
the first primary partition and OS/2 an extended logical partition.



Joo.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Subject: Re: HELP: Cannot install OS/2 - I get stumped after the HD Prep!
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 14:34:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corp. Performance Services, Atlanta, GA

In article <1992Jul21.035620.10107@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, sundaram@cps.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram) writes:
|>  
|> My system is:
|> 	386-40 w/64K cache
|> 		AMI BIOS, OPTI chipset
|> 		Trident VGa card
|> 		Mono SVGA Monitor (can run Windoze 3.1 in SVGA mode)
|> 
	You didn't mention your hard drive type, but I would hazard to guess
	that you have a non-SCSI, non? There is a known problem with the
	drivers that acts like what you have described. I had the same 
	problem. Regretably, my notes on how to solve this are at home. 
	You might try ftp'ing to software.watson.ibm.com and perusing the
	fixes there. The problem involves the IBM1S506 driver, if I recall.
	I'll try to remember to bring the fax with the procedure in to the 
	office tomorrow (7/22). If you get no joy from the ftp server, EMail
	me and I will send you the fix procedure. You might even want to try
	calling IBM. They provided this fix to me in the first place. After
	all, you get technical support free for a while...

	Good luck. 

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From: X049BC@tamvm1.tamu.edu
Subject: Keyboard woes
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:26:39 GMT

I have been having a problem I haven't seen addressed here (or anywhere) yet.
I looked in all the FAQ's I could find, too!
I've got a clone 486-33 w/AMI BIOS (7/91, I believe), 16MB RAM, 100MB "C:"
and 200MB "D:" drives, Trident SVGA (got the driver fixes, yippee!), Zeos
compact keyboard, Logitech bus mouse. The problem is that most of the time
the arrow and delete keys will not work on the Desktop or in most OS/2
apps. Now, I have trouble with the mouse, but sometimes it's nice not to have
to take my hands off the keyboard to, say, select what session I want to move
to on the Desktop after hitting "CTRL-ESC." What's really got me puzzled is
that is HAS worked occasionally! Since I've been plagued lately, it hasn't
for over a week, so I can't figure out if there might be a connecting factor.
Appreciate any help!
Bill
 
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