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From: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth)
Subject: Re: Text scroll benchmark
Keywords: text scroll benchmark window
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:51:08 GMT

In article <14gnjd+.jps@netcom.com> jps@netcom.com (John Serafin) writes:
>
>I am proposing a text scrolling benchmark.   Although most computers can
>scroll text much faster than it is possible to read, scrolling delay can
>be quite objectionable during interactive modem sessions.   Scrolling text
>in a window in a GUI environment can take up so much CPU time that full
>modem throughput is not realized.   I have made some measurements and my
>results are at the end of this article.   My motherboard is an ISA 486
>from Intel with an Intel chipset.   For some reason, vector oriented
>graphics run faster on Taiwanese motherboards with the same SVGA card.
>Therefor other people with ProDesigner IIs may get better results.
>
>I would be particularly interested in seeing how various 8514, XGA, and TIGA
What surprises me about OS/2 is how poorly screen writes are done.
Perhaps it's the Trident driver that's poorly coded. I am running
1024x768 256 mode.

The Trident card is quite good hardware, and their driver support is good
(just wish they'd HURRY UP with fixing these beta drivers!)
Normal VGA mode is very quick when scrolling, but 1024x768 sucks.
Everything else about 1024x768 is quick. I'm also using a 486 33MHz 12 meg
machine, so that's not causing performance problems.

The reason scrolling is slow is that OS/2 seems to write one character at
a time, or maybe a line at a time. This slows things to a crawl in 1024x768
mode. *However* screen updates for a large area of text are quite fast.
In a windowed TE/2 session, 2400 bps, the line by line scrolling sends
Pulse up to 100% CPU. But if I click the mouse in the window for a few seconds
the scrolling stops, and when I release the mouse, the whole window updates
in a flash. Pulse shows much reduced CPU usage.

I notice that fat pig X Windows on a Sun 3/60 is much faster(screen) than my
486. X is in C, the 16 bit PM stuff is all assembler. What gives?
Well if you watch an Xterm closely, it updates a terminal window in
a kind of "burst mode", kind of "lazy writes" for the screen.
(BTW, the 3/60s have unaccelerated framebuffers)

I'll wait for IBM to tweak the video some more, before I think of
a grahics accelerator.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: robert.fielder@canrem.com (robert fielder)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: c set/2 compile prob
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:51:03 GMT
Reply-To: "robert fielder" <robert.fielder@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

UA>z  Newsgroup: comp.os.os2.misc
UA>       *array++=1;

UA>}

UA>*********************************************************

UA>When I compile giving the command
UA>            icc /c /w3 /o+ sample.c
UA>       I get the following error messages:
UA>SAMPLE.C(12:15) : error EDC0117: The operation between these types is not valid.
UA>SAMPLE.C(12:10) : informational EDC0140: Operand has type pointer to  signed long integer .
UA>SAMPLE.C(12:17) : informational EDC0140: Operand has type signed integer .

Uma:

Try making the '1' as long, e.g.:
        *array++ = 1l;

Robert

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From: EQN@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How to run 123 3.1 in emulated DOS box
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:48:37 GMT

I created the batch file (123r31.bat) as well as the obeject with the
dos settings described in a prvious article. However, 123 3.1 still refuses
to run. It still displays the message: "Cannot be run a DOS compatibility
box. Must be run with DOS 3.0 or later." Are there any suggestions as to
what I'm doing wrong ?

-Ravi
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: evanc@uuisis.isis.org (Evan Champion)
Subject: Re: POSIX/U... for OS/2
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 04:56:43 GMT

alvin@eyepoint.com (Alvin Starr) writes:

> We for some time now have had a U*ix clone OS that will run hosted on virtual
> any O/S that we care to port to. It seems to me that with the amount of Unix
> software out there it would be a distinct advantage for any Non Unix O/S to 
> be able to emulate/simulate Unix. Is this not a reasonable idea or is my 
> belief that since people are wiling to cough up big bucks for DOS emulatiors
> that run on Unix/OS2/NT why not a unix emulator on DOS/OS2/NT.
> 
> Think of this not only could you compile and use all of your favourite GNU
> tools, and news, and mail. Heck you could run your IBCSII binaries.
> 
> Any coments/flames/ridicule will be gracously accepted.

I would really love to get a Unix emulator for OS/2.  It would certainly 
help me to run my UUCP/News setup!

Another thing that I would like to see is a new HPFS driver that is more 
like Unix, lets you use "/" and "\" when changing directories and is case 
sensitive.  The case sensitivity is partially there, with the file system 
being able to record the case but not being sensitive to the case entered.  
Another thing, why are there spaces allowed in filenames?  I realize that it 
is good in a word processor to be able to save a file as "Letter to Norm" 
instead of "Letter.to.Norm", but spaces are a real pain when you have to do 
file manipulation in CMD.EXE (having to "" everything).  As above, any comments
will be graciously accepted!

Evan
From: gus@plains.NoDak.edu (jim gustafson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Drive objects on extended partitions?
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:13:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19903

(Jon L. Gauthier) writes:
>I re-installed OS/2 2.0 a couple of weeks ago so I could use Boot Manager.
>I partitioned my 210MB drive as follows:
>
>I didn't get around to formatting the two extended partions until a few days 
>later.  Once I did, I can't get the OS/2 drive objects to show up under WPS.

Jon:
Sounds like you may have been "bitten" by an annoying OS/2 "feature" that I
ran into... after installing a new (second) hard drive, I couln't find a way 
to "create" a drive icon for it.

Someone was kind enough to send me email, suggesting that I open the "Drives"
folder (and then select the "Arrange" option from the folder menu). Turns
out that OS/2 DID create a drive icon, but it was placed out of plain sight
in the folder.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr))
Subject: Re: DOS VDM can't see new file in A:
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:31:57 GMT

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
: In article <1992Aug26.051615.2285@nuscc.nus.sg> swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr)) writes:
: >I boot a DOS 5.0 image from C: to access a LAN.  Since I cant
: >write to C: in the VDM (fsfilter messes the client programs, so I
: >dont use it), I use the a: drive to transfer data from the HPFS
: >drive (from other DOS or OS/2 windows) to the LAN.  C is FAT and
: >D is HPFS.
: >Curiously, the VDM can't see the new file and the dir statistics
: >are not correct.  If I exitd the VDM and restart it, it seems to
: >be ok.  
: 
: Stupid question, maybe: are you using FSACCESS to get at Drive A from
: the DOS 5.0 image you started?

Actually, I should correct myself.  I just changed the STARTUP DRIVE of
the DOS from drive A object to C.  The DOS 5 system files are on C:\
but it is not an image created using VMDISK.  Should that make 
a difference?

No, I am not using FSACCESS.  Should I? Can I (Note that fsfilter.sys
is not loaded)?  Transfer to the A drive from the LAN session is ok
in the sense that other DOS and OS/2 processes can read the new files.
But the other way around is strange.  A similar thing happens with the
C drive. If I copy a file to C: from another session, I can read it
from the VDM only the first time such a transfer is made.  Subsequent
file transfers to C: are not detected by the VDM (unless it is
restarted).

I suspect my not being able to write to C has something to do with
fsfilter's absence but it would be nice to know.  OS/2's himem.sys
replaces the DOS version and seems to be ok.

Sriram

On an unrelated note: The msd.exe diagnostic program run from 
a DOS session hangs the system with a call your service ...
message.  It doesn't happen under raw DOS.  I suspect that
the Western Digital video card has something to do with it
because msd works on a trident card system.  Are there any
fixes relevant to WD card that I should know about?  I am
only using the standard VGA drivers that come with OS/2.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Slow CHKDSK with Connor Drive.
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:54:56 GMT
Keywords: CHKDSK, Connor Drive

In article <9223909.9187@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> terryr@michaelangelo.vis.citri.EDU.AU (Terry Robison) writes:
> Hi,
> 	I am running OS2 version 2.0 on a 486 - 8 meg memory -
> Tseng Lab (1 meg card). 3 1/2 A drive and 5 1/4 B drive.  I used
> to have a western digital 85 meg drive formated as HPFS.  ChkDSK
> ran with no problems.  I needed more space and bought a 170
> meg connor drive and formated it with HPFS, drive C 45 meg (where
> all the system sits), drive d 16 meg used only for swap, and
> drive e for programs and data files.
> 	The problem is with chkdsk - I had to do a check disk and
> it lasted 20 25 min on drive e, almost 10 min for d... get the
> picture.  I turned on my machine this morning and it took 10 min
> to start up - IT did a check disk on my swap drive for some reason.
> 	I have installed the new kernal, fixes for the video card,
> and the dreaded black icon. I have also installed the new com fixes.
> Any ideas?
> 
> 	Terry
> 

I know.......really dumb question......but you are using "shutdown", aren't
you? I only get CHKDSK if I just flick the power off.
 
Steve

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From: selliott@cup.portal.com (J Steve Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: What's happening to my printer objects ???
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 11:07:23 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I have a new strange one. It appears that certain DOS programs and perhaps
Brief for OS/2 are screwing up my printer drivers in some way. Here's what
happens: If I click left mouse button on a printer object, then select 
"set default" I get a list of my printer drivers with a check mark next to
one of them. If I then run Automap, or a few other DOS programs and repeat
the above sequence, some of the driver names now contain garbage, or they
just disappear. In other cases, clicking the left mouse button on a printer
object yields nothing. I must open the object and select it from the upper
left icon to perform the same function as I would be clicking the left 
mouse button on the printer object icon.

I'm using an IBM Laserprinter 6 (4029). Their drivers have been known to be
flakey too. 

Has anyone else experienced this ?
From: fritz@ra.csc.ti.com (Fritz Whittington)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: TI TM4000 OS/2 Installation Problem (fix)
Summary: Call (817) 771-5856 for help
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:14:19 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments

I received the following response from Kevin Davis, with a request to
forward it to Tony and Tim, as well as post it to comp.os.os2.misc.

Anyone with *any* technical questions regarding the TI TM4000, whether
related to OS/2 or other software, and whether before or after
purchase, is invited to call (817) 771-5856 and ask.  Your name and
number will be taken, and the appropriate technical support person
will call you back.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
    To:		Anthony Skjellum
    Copy:	Timothy F. Sipples
		Fritz Whittington
    From:	Kevin D. Davis

    Anthony,

    Sorry for the trouble you are having loading OS/2 2.0 on your TM4000.
Unfortunately there is nothing I can tell you to do that will fix your
problem through email.  Even though we went through extensive compatibility
testing before releasing the TM4000, we seem to have missed this install
problem.  Since then we have made a corrected BIOS chip available.

    If you will contact (817) 771-5856 and tell them you are having trouble
loading OS/2 on your TM4000, the correct technician will return your call.
They will work out a method of getting the newest BIOS into your machine.

    Thank you for your patience,
    Kevin Davis
    Software/Firmware Team Leader

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: weinkam@fraser.sfu.ca (James Lawrence Weinkam)
Subject: Re: undocumented calls
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:19:51 GMT

I posted a little while ago that a similar thing appeared in 
PC MAG within the last year.  I now have the refs.

January 28, 1992 Lab Notes column pages 315-328, and
February 11, 1992 Lab Notes column pages 355-367.

Quote from page 360 of February 11 issue.
"But what of application software such as Microsoft Excel for 
Windows?  It's not difficult to see that Excel makes fairly 
heavy use of undocumented Windows:  Jsut examine EXCEL.EXE and
EXCELDE.EXE with the same MAPWIN utility we've been using to explore
other Windows executables and libraries."

They also include a list of the undocumented calls in excel. 

This information is based on windows 3.0, and so some may now be
documented, but at the time excel was written it was using calls
that were not documented.


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kvetzal@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Ken Vetzal)
Subject: Problem running MS-Kermit
Originator: kvetzal@watarts.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:30:43 GMT

I have a problem using MS-Kermit under OS/2.  Whenever I try it (in either an OS/2 full screen session or a DOS full screen session), I get a message saying:

Warning:  no hardware for this serial port.  This port will be operated through the Bios as BIOS1.

I am trying to use COM2, but OS/2 apparently thinks it doesn't exist, and 
performance is very slow when the port is operated through the Bios.  Two 
other points:  1) This problem doesn't occur when I use PM Terminal.
2) This problem doesn't occur if I boot to DOS5 instead of OS/2.

Any advice or suggestions is much appreciated.

Ken Vetzal (kvetzal@watarts.uwaterloo.ca)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm)
Subject: DOS and Windows programs under OS/2
Organization: McMaster University, Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:43:19 GMT

Under Windows, I can represent a DOS program by an icon, and fire it up 
directly by double-clicking the icon.  Is the same thing possible for DOS
and Windows programs under OS/2? In other words, can one have a Windows 
program, e.g., on the Desktop itself and start it by double clicking, or does
one have to fire up Win-OS/2 first (or access it through a folder on the
Desktop)?    Carl Riehm.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Win-OS2 Windowed sessions with SVGA
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:19:05 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <mferrare.715237000@adelphi> mferrare@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Mark Ferraretto) writes:
>
>When I was running the Generic VGA driver under OS/2 2.0 on my 486DX2/50 I 
>could get WINOS2 applications running in a WIN-OS2 window.  Being the greedy
>hog that I am, I installed an 800x600x256 driver for my Tzeng PT2014Z 
>(ET4000 chip).  I installed the orchid driver.  Now I can't get WIN-OS2 
>windowed sessions any more!  I have to run WIN-OS2 session full screen.  This
>is very distressing.  Does anyone know how I can get my WIN-OS2 sessions
>windowed again in SVGA?
>
>PS  It didn't work in 800x600x16, 1024x768x16, 640x480x256 either.

You need a seamless windows driver installed in your WINOS2\system.ini
file.  Currently, I know of only two such drivers: VGA and Trident
800x600x16.  

IBM has promised super-VGA seamless drivers for the update pack.  I
don't know if they'll be generic or if they'll be driver-specific.

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From: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber)
Subject: Re: HELP: Where OS/2 2.0 CSD?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:21:17 GMT

Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>In article <Btwsvx.LHK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber) writes:
>> Ok.  With all this talk about the CSD I would like to know:
>> 
>> Is this something I have to call IBM about and get or will
>> this be one of those files on hobbes I could grab.  
>> 
>> Or even worse.  Will it cost $$$$. 
>> 

>As OS/2 is projected to sell 3 million copies by years end, I wouldn't blame
>IBM for getting a bit shakey about a totally "free" upgrade. I don't blame
>them. I wouldn't mind paying a few dollars for the major improvements the CSD
>will include.
> 
>Perhaps someone closer to the "centre" can clarify this?
> 
>Steve


> 

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Your going to pay for something that fixes a program you already bought?

Smart.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Pat Duffy)
Subject: Re: RAM or the lack thereof
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:08:46 GMT

In article <BtLqA6.JqK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>
>I got OS/2 with 4 meg with every intention of going to 8, but now I'm stuck
>on 20 and a dx2/66!  I'm power hungary:):)
>
>Later,
>Todd

Well, *I* want OS/2 on a DEC Alpha-based system with 512Meg of RAM and about
100 or so GB of disk space.  Nothing is ever too fast, and you can never have
too much disk space. :-)
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SYS3176 when booting specific DOS from C:
Keywords: SYS3176, specific DOS from C
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:43:36 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

Take a look at the IBM Tips and Techniques file, available via
anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  This file describes several ways
in which SYS3176 errors can be cured.

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From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where are all the screensavers?
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:10:05 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Aug22.160714.57807@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, etl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ERIC TODD LANDRIEU) writes:
>>Where can I find myself a screen saver that will work under 2.0?  without
>>having to use the "lockup now" option ?
> Get DeskPic from Hobbes.  It would be somewhere around pub/os2/all/???.  A
> couple of the savers don't work under 2.0, but the rest are phenominal.  I
> especially like "melting flex", which is fantastic at 1024X768.

Kai Uwe Rommel has a screen saver (scrutl) which works by:
 The possible cards are 8514/A, VGA, EGA and Monochrome. This screen
 saver does not use and Presentation Manager functions to perform
 the screen blanking but rather uses hardware capabilities of the
 display cards to blank the screen. This has the advantage, that no
 screen redraw has to be done when the screen is switched back on.
 In addition, it cannot interfere with running programs (as long as
 they do not change the current screen palette).

Look on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/all/miscutils (?).

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: frigo@psl.wisc.edu (Sean P. Frigo UW-Madison SRC (608)877-2332,-2001(FAX))
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with clipboard ...
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:29:11 GMT
Reply-To: frigo@psl.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Physical Science Lab

In article <1992Aug31.201652.15153@midway.uchicago.edu>, sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
>A bit of advice for the Clipboard: make sure both source and target
>programs are running before attempting any operation through the
>Clipboard.  The README, I believe, makes this clear.
>
>If that is not your situation please post a follow up.
>-- 
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The WIN-OS2 clipboard takes about 10 seconds and then gives "out of memory or
disk error" if one tries to copy into the clipboard when it has something
already in it, even as little as 4 lines of text.  Changing the clipboard from
PUBLIC  to PRIVATE allows OK copy/paste with WIN-OS2.
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