HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us (David Schachter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Free admission to next week's San Francisco WPDO meeting (w/ strings
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 00:33:29 PST
Organization: Greenwire Consulting, Palo Alto, CA, USA

Yo, homeboy!  Looking to save a few bucks and get a free sleazy dinner?  We're
looking for a few good entities to help with the WPDO meeting.  In particular,
we need help in setup, teardown, and videotaping: one person to make the video
recording of the meeting and one to assist the EO demonstrator with the video
camera aimed directly down onto the EO display.

In return for this mind-bogglingly complex, physically challenging, and subtly
pornographic endeavor, you get free admission even if you aren't a WPDO mem-
ber (Wow, you save ten whole dollars!), and you also get a free, but not very
good, meal (e.g. not McDonalds, but not Chez Panisse neither.)  You also get
to take Madonna* home for the night.  And you get a free copy of the WPDO
newsletter, Issue #1 (which will be ready by meeting time, come Keating or
high water.)

If you are transportationally-challenged, let me know and I'll look into car-
pooling.  (I'm in Palo Alto, which is terrific for Stanford folks.)

Figure less than an hour for setup and about fifteen minutes for teardown, if
you are not intimidated by consumer electronics.  The meeting is Thursday,
12-Nov, scheduled to start at 7 pm and end around 9 pm.  I can be contacted
as shown below, or by flashing the WPDO signal from the top of Gotham City
Hall.


* my pet bivalve

______________________________________-______________________________________
David Schachter                                 david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us
801 Middlefield Road, #8                  ...!{mips,decwrl,sgi}!llustig!david
Palo Alto, CA  94301-2916                 After 10 am, voice: +1 415 328 7425
From: kwanghan@iti.gov.sg (Tan Kwang Han (SE))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Slate PenApps
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:44:24 GMT
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore

I considering using Slate PenApps (windows edition) for development
work. Glad if anyone can give me comments about how they like the
product as a development tool. Is it as easy to use and powerful as the
it appears . Also how stable is it.

Secondly, I considering writing some controls which is needed for my
project. Does Slate PenApps allow people to add controls like in Visual
Basic. Or is there already a ready supply of controls which I can just
buy.

Any help/advise is greatly appreciated.

Regards,,
Kwang Han, TAN
Internet : kwanghan@iti.gov.sg
Bitnet : kwanghan@itivax.bitnet
From: klemp@key.COM ( David Klemp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.northstar
Subject: NorthStar User Group disks
Keywords: NorthStar, Horizon, Advantage, S-100
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:27:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: key.3867
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced Systems, Fremont CA

I wish to obtain copies of old NorthStar disks from the User Group files.
dave klemp, 408-429-9221.  Also, old docs appreciated.
From: dhansen@amiganet.chi.il.us (Dave Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.encore
Subject: How Do I Set 8N1 on UTX-32 Operators Console?
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:55:54 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

I'm using a PAD box to parallel my Operators Console on a PowerNode (3267)
running UTX-32 v2.1 and we have our Operators Console set for 8N1 rather than
the normal 7O1 that Getty expects from the Operators Console.  While the local
Operators Console Terminal will switch to 7-bits when UTX boots and Getty takes
control, my PAD box is a fixed 8-bits.  UTX terminals connected to the PAD DO
auto-switch to 8N1 on login, the Operators Console refuses to output as 8N1 but
accepts that input.  /etc/TTYS has been changed to various terminal types with
no effect.  Where would I go to inform Getty that I want *n! exclusively? 
Thanks for your reply.

Dave Hansen
Commonwealth Edison Co.
1(708)691-4747
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon)
Subject: Re: Request FAQ
Keywords: FAQ
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:44:12 GMT

In article <44923@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> kronberg@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Frank Kronberg) writes:
>Will someone please send me the 3b1 FAQ or tell me where it's located
>
>Thanks

Look in ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu:pub/att7300/documents, for faq.part0?.Z:

>Frank Kronberg			Center for Extreme Ultraviolet Astrophysics
>kronberg@cea.berkeley.edu       University of California
>EUVE launched 7 June 1992	2150 Kittredge Street
>Surveys 70-912 Angstroms	Berkeley, CA 94720 USA

--
	Chuck Bacon - crtb@helix.nih.gov ( alas, not my 3b1 )-:
		ABHOR SECRECY	-   DEFEND PRIVACY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: shrinking screen cured; thanks everyone
Summary:  replace C418 (note not C411)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:18:32 GMT


i have completed the repair of the monitor on my 3b1 using the help
and advice i received from all you kind souls on the net.

please note:

the FAQ is not appropriate for my monitor and for current electronic
hardware.

for instance: on my component board, the capacitor described as C411
is labeled C418.

next: the physical layout of the alumninum cage  holding and shielding
the crt and its electronics is different from that in the FAQ.

lastly, current replacements for the 4.7uf 25v C41? require different
installation information.

by the way: on the aluminum cradle inside my monitor is a paper label
with the following legend:

CAPETRONIC KAOHSIUONG CORP.

Part NO:DS 1034 Rev A

anyway, all the leters are now the same size, no matter where they
appear on the screen.

again thanks to everyone who contributed.
-- 
arthur wouk 
internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Subject: Re: floppy drive won't accept disks
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:17:41 PST

Arthur Wouk (wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
: apparently, in my fixing of the monitor, i did something to the teac
: floppy drive in my 3b1. 
: 
: if i shutdown, remove power, and lift the monitor, the floppy drive is
: fine, accepts disks, etc.
: 
: when i close up and reboot, i find either that the disk in there is
: locked in, or if i boot with no disk present, i can't  insert a disk.
: it goes in a bit and then seems to run into resistance from something
: which is moving!

The half-height case on my 7300 leaves little space for the video cable
running from the left side of the M/B to the central monitor pivot.  If
it is not exactly aligned in its cut-out, the top won't reseat properly.
I suspect the cable, which isn't very flexible, is interfering with
your floppy drive mechanism in some way.  A really peverse cable could
do this even in the more spacious full-height 3b1 top.

Good luck - Will
cwr@crash.cts.com.
From: cohen@cubic.com (Andrew Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: fixing shrinking screen:need help
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:07:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cubic Toll Systems (Tolls R Us)
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:25:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.182504.18728@colorado.edu> Arthur Wouk,
wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu writes:
>i got enough help from the net to remove the shell around the monitor.
>i now see the speaker set onto a metal plate. is the speaker assembly
>the speaker itself, or the whole metal plate? near as i can tell it is
>the whole metal plate!
>-- 
>arthur wouk 
>internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu

The speaker press-fits into a cutout with some foam tape around it.  Just
wiggle it out, but watch the wires.

Has anyone told this guy about how the CRT stores a charge like a giant
capacitor?  He's got the will, but the safari isn't the type of box a
novice should be working on, especially that CRT.

Arthur, _discharge that CRT FIRST!_

Why do I get the feeling that it's time to call a technician. 8-;
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: pcomm (was Re: 3.5 vs 3.51x)
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:31:00 GMT

In <1992Nov12.144302.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> jwstok01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
	writes:

> ...does anyone know the latest version of pcomm?  The version on osu is
> 1.2.10.
> thanks in advance
>  							-John

Well, here's a recent exchange with the author of pcomm that explains
the situation:

From: uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!fthood!egray (Emmet Gray)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 07:51:47 CST
Message-Id: <9211101351.AA05860@fthood>
Subject: Re: Patch #2 to Pcomm v2.0
Apparently-To: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us

I remember you... you alway found nasty bugs in my code!

> I hadn't been aware there was a v2.0 of pcomm until recently.  I went
> looking for the latest version of the source code using archie, and
> came up with a list that makes it look as if version 1.2 is the latest
> that anyone has archived.  (See below.)  Was the code posted to comp.
> sources.unix?

	Ha!, I wish.  I've just about given up on comp.sources.unix.  I
	emailed the code in June.

>                I couldn't find it.  I tried to connect via ftp to the
> system that you once announced had the latest version of the source
> code, but it wouldn't accept an anonymous login.  :-(

	Yep, it's down.  I hope to have another machine set up as
	the FTP server in a few days.  It will be max.cecer.army.mil

> Can you tell me how I can get the latest version of pcomm and a full
> set of patches?

	Out of desparation, I put the files in a /tmp/pcomm directory
	on ftp.uu.net.  As you probably know, things don't stay there
	very long (so I have to keep putting them back on a regular
	basis).

Emmet P. Gray				US Army, HQ III Corps & Fort Hood
...!uunet!uiucuxc!fthood!egray		Attn: AFZF-DE-ENV
fthood!egray@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu		Directorate of Engineering & Housing
					Environmental Management Office
					Fort Hood, TX 76544-5057
--
    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: Re: monitor disaster
Summary:  the replacement capacitor exploded!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:48:19 GMT

what happened was an explosion of the replacement capacitor. i don't
know if this did any other damage.

i replaced the stock 4.7uf 25v electrolytic non-polarizing capacitor
with a 4.7uf 63v electrolytic non-polarizing capacitor. it was of a
very small size, so i was suspicious.

is there any safe replacement?

has anyone had the same experience?

what is the chance that i did other damage when the capacitor
exploded?


-- 
arthur wouk 
internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: Re: fixing shrinking screen:need help
Summary:  what is the speaker assembly?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:25:04 GMT

i got enough help from the net to remove the shell around the monitor.
i now see the speaker set onto a metal plate. is the speaker assembly
the speaker itself, or the whole metal plate? near as i can tell it is
the whole metal plate!
-- 
arthur wouk 
internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
From: richter@birkhoff.math.nwu.edu (Bill Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Unix system V question
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:26:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov10.042638.13432
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

I love my 3b1, except for the job control.  I'm used to killing a job
with C-c; this doesn't seem to ever work.  Even worse, the commands
jobs and fg don't exist.  Suppose you stop a job, for instance by
suspending emacs in order to compile the file.  How can you ever get
back to it?  The command ps gives the process id, which is fine if I
want to kill the job, but I don't know how to resume it and get back
to emacs.

Thanks,
Bill Richter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: is this what is meant by shrinking screen?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:10:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.190409.28889@digibd.com> steve@digibd.com (Steve Wahl) writes:
"In article <1992Nov2.115222.1278@cbnews.cb.att.com> adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
">if i were you, i'd SHUT THE MACHINE DOWN IMMEDIATELY, and install the
">replacement capacitor in the monitor (see the faq on this).  if you
">wait until the capacitor fails, it will probably take other, more
"                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"			Maybe this should say "could possibly"
">expensive, harder to trace parts with it.
"
"I'd rather not see people panic about this.  It is possible for other
"components to fail when the capacitor goes, and thus it is better to
"fix it when the problem's symptoms first appear.  So if you know about
"the problem, get it taken care of.
"
"However _my_ monitor completely failed (no picture at all), and the
"only thing that needed replacing was the capacitor.  So if your screen
"has already died, and you're just now asking the net for help, there
"may still be hope.
"
"I realize that the original poster has not had his monitor fail yet,
"but this is what I see every time someone asks about the monitor
"problem, and I'd hate to discourage anyone who has had a complete
"failure.

steve's right -- don't panic.  my monitor hasn't died yet, but the
first thing i'd do would be to replace the capacitor and try it... you
can always get lucky...
i was just dealing from my experience with programmers; the software
types around here are like kids -- you can't let them play
unsupervised ;^) .
the gist of my message -- don't wait for _total_ failure; a little
preventive maintenance is much easier.

-- 
		+--------------------------------------------------------------+
Andrew Hay	|	I am not an expert,				       |
a_d_hay@att.com	|			 but I play one on the Internet!       |
		+--------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: Re: floppy drive won't accept disks
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:44:44 GMT

i found my problem. somehow, in replacing the monitor i was hitting
some part  of the  mechanical system which ejects and positions floppy
disks and putting it into a locked state. i believe that the problem
is caused by the cable running up to the monitor, which starts on the
left side of the motherboard and is grounded just to the left of the
floppy drive.

anyway. the best way to replace the monitor is not the natural way, by
tipping it forward, engaging the two catches on the front of the
space, and then rotating backwards. at least this week it is munging
my floppy drive. i succeeded by setting it down from above and then
fought with the catch mechanism till it engaged.

the more i work with the 3b1 the more i admire the develish ingenuity
of the designers in making a non-repairable, hence probably throw-away
item!  it couldn't have happened by accident!
-- 
arthur wouk 
internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: pcg2@ra.msstate.edu (Patrick C Greer)
Subject: Fan question
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:54:05 GMT

	My 3B1 seems to be running rather hot these days.  It wasn't like
this until I replaced the fan (while replacing the power supply) a few
months ago.  The main reason it is hotter is probably because I'm leaving it 
running all the time now.  I was just wondering if the power supply in the
3B1 could handle another fan like the one that comes standard with the
machine.  I was thinking about adding another one in the other fan port
on the left side of the machine.  If I do this, would it be better to have 
both fans pulling air through the machine or what?  Also, if the power supply
can't handle the increased load, can anyone tell me the specs on the fans
that come with the system?  I have several of these fans laying around the
house and it seems a shame to let them sit there while my machine gets hotter
and hotter.  I don't like the idea of coming in from class one day and seeing
my case melted and warped.  

					Thanks,
					Chris
-- 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Supported Disks?
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:15:50 GMT

Can someone point me at that list of disks that the 3B1 will support?

It's time to replace mine... (bah)

thx
gak

---
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From: lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA (Lucio de Re)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: vfprintf
Keywords: vfprintf
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:03:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: phyrql.1992Nov11.150339.18339
Organization: MegaByte Digital Communications

This is a trivial enough request:  where do I find a moderately solid
implementation of vfprintf for a PC 7300 running Sys V Rel 3.0?

My thanks to all.  Lucio.
-- 
Lucio de Re (lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA)
The supernatural does not exist, but it gives me the creeps...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: floppy drive won't accept disks
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:03:53 GMT

apparently, in my fixing of the monitor, i did something to the teac
floppy drive in my 3b1. 

if i shutdown, remove power, and lift the monitor, the floppy drive is
fine, accepts disks, etc.

when i close up and reboot, i find either that the disk in there is
locked in, or if i boot with no disk present, i can't  insert a disk.
it goes in a bit and then seems to run into resistance from something
which is moving!

anyone know anything about this condition?
-- 
arthur wouk 
internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
From: cohen@cubic.com (Andrew Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Mounting a Floppy drive
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:18:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cubic Toll Systems (Tolls R Us)
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If I recall properly, the shell command for a 10 sector disk is

fdfmt10.nl

Meaning; floppy disk format 10 sector - no loader.

then you can mount from User Agent easily with 

/mnt

or from the shell with:

mount /dev/rfp021 /mnt

This places the disk root directory logically on the mnt directory.  The
mnta, mntb don't mean anything since these are just directories and not
devices.  I suppose they're a matter of convenience for those of us with
3 floppy devices like 5.25, 3.50, and floppy tape in one box. 8-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,cmu.misc.market,pa.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.other,misc.forslae.computers.workstations
From: sjohn@england.ece.cmu.edu (John E. Sasinowski)
Subject: AT&T Unix PC Forsale
Organization: ECE Department, Carnegie Mellon University.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:06:27 GMT

For those who saw my previous posts, I've reduced the asking price of the
system yet again.  I have sold the extra hardware items, but there is still
some software available separately.  As before, if you think I'm asking too
much, make me an offer you think is reasonable.

The time has come for me to part with my AT&T Unix PC.  The details of the
system are below.  I'd like to get $400 for everything, but if you think that
that is unreasonable feel free to make me an offer.  The items listed under
"Available separately" are those that I am willing to sell separate from the
rest of the system.  Buyer pays shipping.  Contact me by email at
sjohn@ece.cmu.edu if you have any questions or wish to make an offer.
Thank you.

	- John Sasinowski

Here are the details:

Hardware:
	AT&T Unix PC (includes original packing carton)
	1 MB internal RAM
	0.5 MB RAM card, expandable to 2 MB (instructions included)
	62MB (formatted) hard disk
	Unix 3.51m installed on hard disk
	socketed clock battery (which makes battery replacement easier - the
		original battery was soldered to the motherboard)
		
Software:
	Unix 3.51 (Original disks and manuals)
	Developers Utilities (c compiler, linker, etc.) (Original disks
		and manuals)

Other stuff:
	Lurnix Instructional Guides for the AT&T 7300
	book: Unix System V Bible, published by Howard Sams & Co.
	5 1/4" plastic disk mailer
	(3) 5 1/4" trasparent plastic disk storage boxes, hold about 10 disks
		each
	101 floppy disks with files
		- backups of original installation disks
		- publicly available software and data, including many
		  packages from "TheStore!"
		- archived news articles
	108 disks with nothing useful on them
		- old system backups, disks for other machines, etc.
	a mouse pad
	telephone cables
	misc. documents that I've accumulated

Available separately
	Commercial packages:
		UniPress EMACS
		UniPress /rdb database package
		Catalytix Corp. C_Trainer

If desired, I could include a 10 foot RS-232 cable and/or a 10 foot Centronics
	parallel printer cable
From: andy@cs.caltech.edu (Andy Fyfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: bug in GNU assembler
Date: 8 Nov 1992 02:10:07 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kodiak.cs.caltech.edu

The GNU assembler has had a problem with -g and labels in C code.  They
generate an "unexpected storage class 6" (or some such) warning, when
assembling.  Worse, if the label was defined before it was used, then
the assember made the name an external rather than a label.  The loader
then objected to this otherwise undefined name.

I made a simple patch that stops the warning, and keeps the labels as
labels.  In the "defined before use" case, the value in the symbol table
is 0, rather than the actual location of the label, so this patch isn't
perfect.

You can ftp a new binary from ftp.cs.caltech.edu:pub/3b1/tmp/as.Z (tmp
because the binary will eventually go into gcc2-bin.tar.Z (as soon as
I update to 2.3.1)).  The unlinked objects are there too.

Andy Fyfe					andy@cs.caltech.edu

*** read.c~	Sat Nov  7 17:21:21 1992
--- read.c	Sat Nov  7 17:47:45 1992
***************
*** 1452,1458 ****
  	/* Valid but set somewhere else (s_comm, s_lcomm, colon) */
  	break;
        case C_USTATIC:
        case C_EXTDEF:
-       case C_LABEL:
        case C_ULABEL:
  	as_warn("unexpected storage class %d", S_GET_STORAGE_CLASS(symbolP));
--- 1452,1460 ----
  	/* Valid but set somewhere else (s_comm, s_lcomm, colon) */
  	break;
+       case C_LABEL:
+ 	S_SET_SEGMENT(symbolP, C_TEXT_SECTION);
+ 	break;
        case C_USTATIC:
        case C_EXTDEF:
        case C_ULABEL:
  	as_warn("unexpected storage class %d", S_GET_STORAGE_CLASS(symbolP));
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