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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:02:18 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Guitar Solos
              3 Sep 1992 08:45:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

My fave guitar solos:

Purple Rain--Prince and the Revolution
Since I've Been Loving You--Led Zeppelin
Comfortably Numb--Pink Floyd
Elephant Talk--King Crimson*
Driven to Tears--The Police*
Tea for One--Led Zeppelin
Anything from Charlie Christian, Django Reinhardt, Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry,
  and Jimi Hendrix

from back when music had passion,
(*exceptions, these are my fave novelty solos)

 3
M
From: MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET (Rick)
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Subject: Crumhorns 'n' sackbuts
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:08:11 GMT
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Well, Scott, the difference is:

 A crumhorn is a J-shaped double reed instrument w/a cylindrical bore.
 Most popular in the 16th-17th cents. in Germany, Italy, and the Low Countries.

 A sackbut is a early breed of slide trombone. It goes all the way back to the
 15th cent. It had a smaller bell than the modern-day one. Some larger ones
 had a stick attached to the slide that you needed to push it to full exten-
 sion.

 The Count Basies of the Renaissance usually had at least one of each in their
 ensembles.

 Fol-de-rol-de-ray,
 Rick
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:37:49 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      thoughts

(1) Who is Bob Marigold(?) a guitar player but i can't remember where i've
heard him?

(2) Reading a book by Julio Finn called Bluesman he really gets deep into
the voodo religion, and goes into detail on the Robert Johnson deal, most
of the early bluesmen (House,Shines,Lockwwod) believe it really happened
the writes theory is that R.J. went into the Bayou swamps where voodoo
rituals take place, and spent a couple of years with a Root Doctor and
Robert himself created Legba the master of the crossroads. They say that
not only R.J.'s playing was incredible, but he returned with incredible
charisma that charmed both women and men. He alos said that R.J. was a
genuis that would have ended up in an asylum in modern times.
What are your thoughts about Roberts deal could it have happened. Eric
Clapton spent a couple of years in seclusion and came out playing better
do you think they both just practised a whole lot.

(3) The writer also said that a white person could not be a bluesman/woman
because they have never experienced the "real" blues of an oppressed
race, that makes me believe that any modern day blues musician can not be
a bluesman regardless of color because although conditions aren't perfect
they are alot different that the slave days, which the writer says is the
real blues, and you can't have them unless you expreienced them. Are there
any white bluesmen/women IYHO.

                    Lenny Ray Joe Bob
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:31:26 CDT
From:         There is No Answer <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Friday follies

>>Lollapalooza - Lush rocked and The Jesus and Mary Chain were pretty good too.
>>  Other then that, I was a bit let down.  Oh yah, the sideshow was cool.
>
>       How about Ministy? Two guys I work with went and missed the Ministry
>set, but they really went to see the Peppers. I wanted to go, but I had
>already spent to much on concert tix at the time they went on sale. :(

        Yah, Ministry was pretty cool (hmm, have we talked about them before?)
Al Jurgeson REALLY gets into live shows.  His energy level was incredible.
And the female dancers in bondage outfits with deer antlers on their heads
were interesting.  Unfortunately, it was kinda late in the day and I didn't
feel like slamming up by the stage.  I guess your friends did get there late,
Ministry was the second to last act.

      Well, considering you guys might have seen them at different
      places, the lineup might have changed order. Then again, I
      went to lollapalooza last year and the order was exactly what
      was on the back of the shirt.

        I guess my problem with Lollapalooza wasn't the performances.  All the
bands did great.  There were alot of memorable moments...Soundgarden's lead
singer jumping into the crowd...someone covered "Cop Killer"...Pearl Jam was
joking around witht the audience...The Red Hots' flaming hats...........
I just would have liked some more of that so-called diversity.  A raggae band,
an acoustic band, something like that.  The individual bands did well, although
I of course like some better then others...it wasn't like last year when Living
Colour seemed totally dead.

     From what I heard, it was Soundgarden who covered "Cop Killer."
     Well, it is difficult to get the same kind of power out of an
     acoustic as Soundgarden gets out of electrics, so my guess would
     be that an acoustic group would sound very wimpy next to the rest
     and there has been little by way of "conscious reggae" since the
     death of the Honorable Robert Nesta Marley, OM, but if you can
     find a reggae band that isn't too much into dancehall toastmaster-
     ing, I think it would add to the bill.

Ah well, I'm tired and going to sleep now...Adrian Legg is still kicking...

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>

Dave
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I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the  years
of maturity.
              -- Albert Einstein
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:26:58 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Cirque du Soleil

Last night, I had the privilege to go see a most spectacular
event called Cirque du Soleil.
It is an all-human performance of acrobats, clowns, contortionists,
  and musicians.
It was artwork in motion, with visuals and music that worked
  together in harmony.
Quite an impressive show, I must say :)
If you ever get a chance to see this year's performance, don't pass it up.
You will lose out on an incredible event if you do.
There was this one segment where these two women tapdanced and played
  bolos in sync, while a drummer played electronic trap behind him.
It was absolutely outrageous entertainment.
I recommend the show for all ages.

This year's show is called "Saltimbanco" which is Italian for "step up
  onto the platform."  They did, and it was magical for two hours.

Enough said.  Go see them.


Mike Masuda
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:37:11 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: violins'n'stuff
              10 Sep 1992 13:38:51 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

(sniff, sniff, boo hoo!!)  That piece on Pagannini was beautiful, Sonia. . .

Isn't it scary that someone could be that good?  There is a similiar story
about Midori, one of the latest young virtuosos with "devilish" talent:
apparently at one of her concerts one of her strings broke during a concerto;
she quickly grabbed the concertmaster's violin and then proceded to play (never
missing a note, of course).  She then broke a string on the concertmaster's
instrument and grabbed the assistant concertmaster's instrument and continued
on (again, never missing a note).  I have heard from some that she also broke
the assistant concertmaster's string. . . at any rate, definitely talent from
"another world". . .

Michelle
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:43:46 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject: Re: Quartet/Gospel
              "AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU" at Sep 12, 92 5:27 pm

>You should know more about this subject more than any of us that serving God
>is the most important thing to do in life.  No matter what kind of Gospel
>music you listen to; as long as you get the message of God's love.
>
>I happen to be the secretary of my local Presbyterian church and a christian.
>But some of the things that are said on this list make me want to lose it
>sometimes. I hope God forgives all of the people (including me) who lets this
>list think of things that is not in the exceptance of God.

	Please - political discussions on this list can get heated, but if
you start a religious discussion, it could get brutal. (e.g. Religious
ideology has killed many more people than any political ideology ever
did, and we don't need any Allmusic fatalities).

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Re: Miles beyond
Date: 5 Sep 1992 01:36:26 GMT
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In a previous article, ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer) says:

>>  So, which Bruford are you talking about here: the Bruford Bruford, 
>>or the Earthworks Bruford?  Anything specific you care to mention? 

>Bill Bruford's Earthworks.  I think it is the first one.

  That's the one I bought when it first hit the stands. That was, what...
5 or 6 years back, right?  I remember very little about that one. I took
it around the turntable about 3-4 times, and ended up giving it to a friend
of mine. All I know is it sounded pretty dry, but that was an impression
made with my pre-Allmusic ears. I think I threatened to haul this out of
my pal's collection not too long ago just to see what I missed back then.

>But hey, Jeff, try to look on the bright side of things.
>Isn't it better to be a Weather Report Wannabee than a Spyro Gyro
>Wannabee?  I want to give you credit for something ;)

  Well, I honestly don't know. I haven't kept up with Spyro Gyra lately,
although they did just play Lexington about a month ago. I declined an
invite from a friend on that one, expecting lullabyes...
  So, in regards to Mr. Broof, I wouldn't pretend to defend what he's
done lately, especially since I'm almost wholly unfamiliar with it. I
have heard good things about _All Heaven Broke Loose_ (on the plus side)
but on the other hand he's still pumping out Yes stuff (on the cash-in
side), so it looks like a toss-up.
  But _One of a Kind_ is the genuine article. I know that much about
Bruford.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:04:32 MDT
From:         "the terror that flaps in the night" <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: covers

Russ sed:

>Actually, a short-lived band I was in did play Rock & Roll.  It was
>before I really knew how to play guitar, and the other guitarist did
>*both* guitar parts by himself.  Don't know what happened to him.
>We also did alot of Ramones and Devo with that band.....

Ah! The Ramones!  I formally request that you cover the song "I Wanna Be
Sedated".  I did a thrash drunken dance in a nun's habit to that song at a
Halloween Bash once...  god... what a fool...

- Carol
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:05:22 GMT
From:         HAUGHD88@IRLEARN.UCD.IE
Subject:      Re: covers
              8 Sep 1992 11:17:13 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:17:13 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>
>    I'm asking the allmighty Allmusic list:  Name a couple or 3 songs
>you'd like to hear covered by some no-name band in a bar.
>
>Russ

Okay;

One Whiskey, One Bourbon, One Beer - George Thorogood and the Destroyers
                                     (serious kick ass blues)
Angel of Montgomery - John Prine
Anything by John Cale
Anything by Iggy Pop - e.g. Raw Power, Penetration etc.
Lawyers Guns and Money - Warron Zevon
Sedated, Teenage Lobotomy, Gimme Shock Treatment, R&R Radio - Ramones
Madame George - Van Morrison (p'raps a little long tho')
Paranoid - Black Sabbath
Hey, Jack Kerouac (or anything by) - 10,000 Maniacs - or early REM
Anything by Abba - (currently enjoying a revival here in Europe)
Sloop John B. - Beach Boys
Desperados, waiting for a train - Guy Clark
Anything by Tom Waits

You would certainly have my full attention if you played any of these !

All the best,

-- bjh, University College Dublin, Ireland.
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: I think TV has made some people lax in defense of their words.
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:37:27 GMT

In article <192npkINN1v4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) writes:
>  Other things people should leave at home are their martyr complexes
>and holier-than-thou attitudes. But seeing as how humans come as a package
>deal, that's not likely to happen here on the net, where opinions are
>traded wholesale and sooner or later all the cards are laid on the table.
>
>  Just opinions, yes... but it *is* our stock-in-trade.
>
>  Jeff ("n.n.")

Back to that Sunday School teacher mode, eh?   Looks like we could
use some new Allmusic subscribers to get you back to your old self.

Jeff
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:42:39 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      re: are you Cyrus?

Ed:

Are you trying to say that if a male is a fan of another male artist; he is
gay?  If so I believe that you should keep your comments to yourself.  This
remark will not be proclamed until you make clear upon what you were saying in
the first place.

I might be a fan of Billy Ray; but this does not mean I am gay.  I like
females as well as you do.

So make yourself clear, shut up, or get off of the list.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:04:34 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Covers
              10 Sep 1992 10:24:17 EDT from <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.E DU>

On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:24:17 EDT Scott Hammer said:
>On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:20:58 EDT Walter Keller said:
>>
>>Also, how about "True Religion" by Hot Tuna, off their Burgers album:
>>"gonna get me a shotgun, one with 3 round balls, shoot anybody I don't like
>>at all, like at all..."
>>
>I've always heard the lyrics as:
>
>Give me my pistol, I said three round balls
>Gonna shoot anbody I don't like at all
>Like at all, like at all
>
>Got a thirty-eight special on a forty-five frame
>You can't touch me cause I've got dead aim

That should be,
"Got a three-eight special on a four-five frame,
 How can I miss when I got dead aim"
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:15:02 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: covers

>I was trying to be RILLY SILLY but actually I would enjoy hearing all of those.

Phew, I'm glad to hear that.  I was gonna ask if you were kidding, but I'm
a nice guy and didn't want to insult you ;-)  A lot of those songs were
exactly the kinds we don't want to play.

>Yes, it is sad when these great guys get tired and don't put out (I'm
>thinking of B.B. King... also I've heard that Chuck Berry has made a total ass
>of himself showing up for concerts drunk, playing in the wrong key... and then

I've seen one of those drunken Chuck Berry shows.  Kind of depressing.

Ran into my ex-boss today, he said I looked pretty much like a rock star. (!)
Finally!   I've been cultivating my image, watching MTV and Arsenio, and now
I've arrived! (?)  Maybe it was the dark glasses on a cloudy day....

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:58:38 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: jazz festival / trouble / capitals
              11 Sep 1992 09:01:52 CDT from
              <Lee=Jenkins%PCB=Sys=Int%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM>

Ok, Lee, here's my 2 about the jazz fest:

The Rippingtons are a pretty good band if you like Pat Metheny type music--
mellow but good listening.

George Howard (saxophone) gets on my nerves because he always does re-makes of
pop songs (even I can jazz up a pop song) such as:  Anita Baker and Color Me
Badd's "I Adore Mi Amor".  It's pretty uninteresting.

I can't off-hand remember what Larry Carlton plays, so I can't give my HO on
that...and I don't think I've heard of Holly Cole.

One thing I've noticed about jazzfests--sometimes a band that sounds rather
bland on CD can really cook live--band members are given extended solos that
really show off their talent.  Of course, the situation could go the other
way, too. . .
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:48:25 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Rahsaan

Russ, wasn't that you last week who asked about a Rahsaan Roland Kirk album or
was that just a fantasy?  I finally remembered to dig out what I have and
listen, and I recommend: The Inflated Tear.  Last week I had posted something
on Ray Charles and all the voices he can assume, well, that's what Rahsaan
does: lyrical, angry, impassioned--high spirits with dark glimmers--levels on
top of levels but always carried on a fresh wind of total spontaneity.

 3
M  - since you like Aretha so much, my suggestion for the next gospel to try is
Walter Hawkins Love Alive II (available only on tape, not CD).  (There's also a
Love Alive IV but I haven't heard it.)  Walter Hawkins is Edgar's brother; the
sisters are part of the group, plus Walter's wife (sorry, forgot their names),
have voices to shake the rafters...I've heard them live twice.  The Love Alive
II is a live show and I guarantee you won't be disappointed.  Once you've
listened to that and if you're still interested, I'll offer some more ideas.

(p.s. there are also some hot gospel videos out there)

Dave, you say the purple buzz is "off" and admit in the next breath that you're
a rock-punker?  I wasn't talking about your head, dummy, I was talking about
the purple buzz of your SOUL!

Re: Byard Lancaster--I was surprised that none of you jazz buffs could answer
me on what has become of Lancaster?  I pulled out my one album (I think called
"It's Not Up To Us"--taped from a friend's copy and not clearly marked) and
it's intense and beautiful stuff, especially a haunting piece called "Satan."
I also noticed that Warren Sharrock is on guitar--this must be Sonny's brother.
Anybody know anything more about him?

Sonia "trying to clean up my act"
From: v107smub@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Balakrishn Nair)
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Subject: Black Cat: is she the fastest guitarist around ?
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:42:00 GMT
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HI there,

Heard that Black Cat.. a woman who is supposedly a violin and 
guitar virtuoso and also plays speed metal versions of classical
pieces by Beethoven and others.. in a speed metal band.. is the
fastest guitarist around.  Is this true.?

Thanks in advance.

Bala.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:19:46 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Anson F. fans

Anson will loose his keyboard player Matt Macabe(?) after the B'ham jam
he is joining Roomful Of Blues so this will be his last Anson show
If you've listened to Anson much you know what a wonderful player Matt
is he's on alot of blacktop stuff. Anson's gonna miss him, just thought
i'd mention it, and Roomful is lucky to get him.....L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:05:52 CDT
From:         Titivillus <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Access to BITNET

>This posting has no OMC. . .
>
>I was just wondering if you can access this network (or others)through
>PRODIGY?  I will be buying myself a PC for Christmas and would love to
>continue my ALLMUSIC discussions at home (vacation time, etc).  Is it
>real expensive?

I'm writing this from my dorm room right now, so I would assume that
your school has a modem line or two into its mainframe. I get email
from compuserv on occasion and know the WELL has some sort of connection

I noticed earlier that you were part of an all-black woman chamber
quartet. I guess that I always assume the person on the other end
of the screen is caucasian, which fits the profile of those networkers
I have met and those I have more than tentative knowledge about. I
thank you for smashing my stereotypes.

>Michelle

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
We dress like students
We dcress like housewives
or in a suit or a tie
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From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver and Soldier's Joy
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date:  8 Sep 92 02:08:43 GMT


>Re: Michelle Shocked's assertion that Soldier's Joy == Morphine:

>I'm pretty sure that Soldier's Joy (the tune) predates morphine, which I
>believe was introduced *after* the Civil War, and not during it as Shocked
>claims.  

According to _Opioid Analgesics_ (Casy and {arfitt, 1986), "In 1803 the 
German pharmacist Seturner achieved the isolation of morphine as 
one of the active ingredients of opium."  That gives it a good 50 years
to be introduced into general use prior to the Civil War.  As for the 
"fifteen cents for the morphine, twenty-five cents for the beer...", 
one can only wish it were so today... 


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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:05:09 EDT
From:         AMGOLTZE@SUVM.BITNET

I am seeking people who are into "alternative"/techno/industrial/or just
any decent new music that I may have missed, and also in info. about new
releases and concerts in my area ( Central New York, Syracuse, unfortunately)
So if anyone fits this description and wants to correspond, please do soon,
as I may get off this list in the near future.  Thanks,
                Andrea :  AMGOLTZE@SUVM.BITNET
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