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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:20:31 GMT

In <+hj3j--@rpi.edu> danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) writes:

>In article <domalley.727539081@unix1.tcd.ie>, domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
>|> I'd like to compile a list of various types of production errors from
>|> all the 26 seasons of Doctor Who. I'm looking for things like: 

[list deleted]

>You **MUST** be kidding! You'll be devoting the rest of your life to this 
>project! It'll make the Universal Databank look like a short story!

Well, just call me a glutton for punishment... ;-)

Keep 'em rolling in, folks...
Daniel.
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From: dave@yoyodyne.demon.co.uk (David Bisping)
Subject: Re: Video Tape Edits 
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:42:31 +0000

In article <1993Jan25.111434.1@skaro.demon.co.uk> richard@skaro.demon.co.uk writes:

>re Brain of Morbius on video.
>
>This story was originally released in the UK in the shorter (59 mins 
>sounds about right) version. These were in the days when pre-recorded 
>videos were a luxury costing 2 to 3 times the price now. The vid was 
>then re-released about 5 years later in it's uncut format.
>
>Richard
>--
You're right just checked by tape, it gives a 100 mins running time with a 
flash on the tape box proclaiming 'complete unedited episodes'. Sorry about
my misleading comments :-(

Dave...

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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:27:09 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

mrmuon@next04csc.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:

>In article <21JAN199312534171@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>  
>doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller) writes:
>> 	In Episode 1 of "The Chase", as the Doctor, Ian, Barbara, and  
>Vicki
>> are watching that Space/Time Visualizer, Ian is seen singing along to
>> the Beatles' "Ticket to Ride".  Coming from Earth in 1963, Ian has never
>> heard this song before - yet he knows the words.

>I don't think there had actually been anything in the show at that point  
>saying that "An Unearthly Child" was set in 1963. Indeed I'm not sure that  
>there has been any indicating that in the show, even in "Rememberance of  
>the Daleks".
>It seems to be generally assumed that "An Unearthly Child" was set at  
>about the time of it's broadcast date, but I'm not sure why.
>One obvious limit on the setting is whenever British money went decimal,  
>but I don't know when that was. Anyone?

I haven't seen the episode for a few years, but when Ian and Barbara
return to Earth at the end of 'The Chase', I seem to remember that they
ask someone the date and are told it is 1965. Ian then comments to
Barbara that they were away for two years of Earth time.

Chris Riff
riff@dartmouth.edu
From: is_b420@ceres.kingston.ac.uk (Brendan Rooney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Reversing Polarity of the Neutron Flow
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:07:14 GMT
Organization: Kingston University, Kingston-upon-Thames
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In article <1993Jan20.144149.13860@bsu-ucs> 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>
>     I'm not up on my Pertwee shows, but I remember it from "The Five Doctors".
>
>Casey

Wasn't this used alot in the Pertwee era ?


Brendan Rooney
is_b420@king.ac.uk
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From: nmp@mfltd.co.uk (Nic Percival (x5336))
Subject: Companions
Reply-To: nmp@mfltd.co.uk
Organization: Micro Focus Ltd, Newbury, England
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:09:47 GMT


		Liz Shaw was the first and only companion never to
>	have traveled in the TARDIS.  She was UNIT's scientific
>	advisor when the Doctor was found after regenerating.  She
>	left UNIT to continue her academic career.

I beg to differ. I read one of the Dr Who books called the Doomsday Weapon.
I'm almost certain Liz Shaw was his companion in this. I believe the
corresponding story was called something like 'Space Colony' or something
like that. It involves the Doctor and Liz Shaw going to this colony (a
mining colony as I recall) and preventing the Master getting hold of a
particularly evil weapon. Can't remember the details much, but I think
the Time Lords were in control of the Tardis (as the dematerialization
circuit was disabled as this point, and the Doctor couldn't make it work).
If above recollections are inaccurate please correct me. It must be 10 years
since I read this.
Or was it Jo Grant?

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From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Companions (Part 1/3) was Re: Companions list
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:55:55 GMT
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <1joqosINNjs5@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D
Morris) writes:
>	It all depends really on whether 'last appearances' includes
>the reprise of the previous episode's trailer. So many people say
>that Victoria's last story was 'Wheel In Space' that I suppose it
>must, though it's a bit misleading.
 
This always has confused me, though, because, as far as I remember,
Victoria isn't seen in the final scene of `Fury From the Deep', so
how is she seen at the start of `The Wheel in Space'?  I'll dig out
my Fury From the Deep tape and listen to the last scene.
 
(well, this is the last two dialogue scenes, three scenes in all)
 
Jamie:  You're not tired?
 
Victoria:  No.  No, I'm fine -- not tired at all.
 
Jamie:  [chuckling]  Do you know what the Doctor's just gone and done?
 
Victoria:  Hmm?
 
Jamie:  He's only gone down to the beach for a swim.  It gets worse...
        You're still not sure, are you?
 
Victoria:  Yes, but it doesn't make it any easier -- leaving you and
           the Doctor.
 
Jamie:  Aye, we've been together a long time now.  Has the Doctor said
        anything to you?
 
Victoria:  No.  Well, you know what he's like; he wouldn't.  He believes
           in people making up their own minds.
 
Jamie:  Victoria...  Do you think you'll be happy here?
 
Victoria:  Oh, I think so.  The Harrises are very nice people.
 
Jamie:  Yes, I know that, but they're not from your time, are they...
 
Victoria:  I wouldn't be at ease back in Victorian times.  I had no parents
           or family left there, anyway.
 
Jamie:  Aye, that's true.  Ah well.  [stands]
 
Victoria:  Jamie...
 
Jamie:  Yes?
 
Victoria:  You wouldn't go without saying goodbye, would you...
 
Jamie:  'course not.  That won't be 'til the morning, anyway.
        Good night, Victoria.
 
Victoria:  [crying]  Good night, Jamie.
 
        [The Doctor is on the beach alone.]
 
        [Later, in the TARDIS ... ]
 
Jamie:  We can't just leave her.
 
Doctor:  We are not leaving her, Jamie -- it was her decision to stay.
 
[pause]
 
Doctor:  She'll be quite all right with the Harrises.  Now don't worry so
         much, Jamie.
 
Jamie:  I'm not.  It's just ... och, come on, let's go.
 
Doctor:  Well, where would you like to go?
 
Jamie:  I couldn't care less.
 
[pause]
 
Doctor:  I was fond of her too, you know, Jamie.  [activates the TARDIS]
 
        [end theme/credits]
 
So, as you can see, there's nothing with Victoria for a reprise in the
last minute or two.  Does anyone out there have the audio for episode 1
of `The Wheel in Space' so can get an idea what her appearance at the
beginning is?
 
 
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From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:57:02 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

> In article <1993Jan24.112732.3293@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey) writes:
> |> In article <1993Jan20.231011.13524@cas.org> rmt51@cas.org writes:
> |> >I once saw a collection of outtakes from the filming of Dr. Who, most of
> |> 
> |> I'd buy this collection.

Might someone tell me the name (if any) of this collection so I may
get my agents onto the trail?

Thanks,
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Club's Listing for UK (England) component 2
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 05:35:15 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:

- yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) wrote:
- >  Giving What I have now, we would end up with a 1000 lines of information,
- >under your formula.
-
- Compared to your "formula" of what? 10000 lines? Geez, scrap my idea. Yours
- will allow you to post more and that's the important thing.

  That is YOUR formula Tom.
-
- > 1) An easy case of some people NOT filling out the form.
-
- So putting a bunch of "?" is going to urge them to fill it out the second
- time?

  I could post some e-mail to that effect, but maybe other might do it for me.
I had to laugh when someone said that seeming Tom is complaining, I had better
fill out the form accordingly.

- > 2) Any non-applicale (null) fields ARE taken into account.
-
- ?
- >  Nice try, however that would be a slap in the face of democracy and we all
- >know what happened to G. Bush when HE ignored it.
-
- I'm not sure if you know what you are talking about here. I know I don't.
- The easiest way to avoid a question is to talk about something else. Whatever
- Keep your megaposts. Fewer people will read them, which means I win.

  Could someone tell this person that we had a vote on r.a.dw and that Laurie
Yadon's amendments were accepted?  Tom, where were you in October and November?

-
- Tom


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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Scorpii)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: _Transit_ ... YUCK!
Keywords: Don't buy it!
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:00:57 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <26JAN199311163306@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller) writes:


>	I was elated to find a shiny new copy of the latest New Adventure,
>Ben Aaronovitch's _Transit_, sitting on a shelf in a B. Dalton Bookseller
>in Baltimore, and rushed to pay $5.95 for it.  I raced home with it,
>eager to read the latest about the Doctor.
>	Andrew Hunt, move aside.  You're no longer the author of the worst
>"Who" story to date.  You merely share the honor.
>	Not only has the concept of "cyberpunk" always made me ill, the
>fact that the Whoniverse has been conquered by it made me want to heave.
>What kind of front cover was that?  The same front cover as the novelisation
>of "Paradise Towers", only without the Doctor's face ... and as for the story.
>So far I'm 50 pages in, and maybe 3 pages of that are devoted to The Doctor
>and Benny combined.  And when we do see the Doctor, he gets blind drunk.
>	I'll finish the book, give it a fair chance and see if it actually
>improves, but it's really hard to get through, and I'm hoping that somehow,
>the brief reference to the beginning of the terrific _Timewyrm:  Exodus_
>influences the end of the story in that we find out this future never
>actually has to happen.
>	Yuck.  Yuck yuck yuck.  Would somebody who actually thinks that
>the cyberpunk theme actually has a place in the once-literate "Doctor
>Who" please defend this book over the net?  Otherwise, it looks like
>I'm forever going to be trashing it.  Thanks.

>						Jason Miller
>						"some doctor guy"

Gee, I wish I'd seen this yesterday when *I* went to buy it.  Oh well, too
late now...

I also find the new emphasis on cyberpunk to be infantile and incongruous. 
I mean, there's a place for cyberpunk, or so says my CSC-major-brain...but
not in Dr. Who, says my ENG-major-brain.  Cyberpunk is interesting, but
DEVASTATINGLY unimaginative.  Not to sound egotistical, but if ALL Transit
is going to be is cyberpunk, maybe I need to start writing these things.

Drewcifer
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From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Watcher's Origin
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:50:41 GMT
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt)) writes:

> In article <1993Jan12.183905.1@stsci.edu>, hagel@stsci.edu writes:
> > In article <1iugh2INNiqt@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>, 
> > kausch@jameson.math.lsa.umich.edu writes:
> > 
> >>...But what about in Planet of the Spiders when the other time-lord (DW's
> >>old mentor, I forget his name) keeps a projection of his next regeneration
> >>around as a side-kick?  The laws of cause and effect  are not in question
> >>in this episode, are we to assume that this other time-lord had capacities
> >>beyond those of our beloved DW?  (Or even DW's subconscious?)  Or beyond
> >>these universal laws of "cause and effect?" 
> > 
> > I believe the Abbot's name was something close to Kanpo Rimpoche.  As for 
> > how Cho-je (the future self) existed simultaneously, I always figured the
> > Doctor answered that when the Abbot teased him about stealing the Tardis 
> > and he replied "Well, I needed to leave and I hadn't your power"  The
> > clear implication was that Kanpo _didn't_ need a Tardis in order to leave
> > Gallifrey!  Cho-je may simply have been the Abbot's 
> > assistant/dogsbody/doppelganger/private joke or all of the above.
> > 
> > In any case, the Doctor was certainly of the opinion that Kanpo's abilities
> > exceeded his own -- the mentoring relationship was still very much in
> > evidence in this episode. 
> > 
> 
> Ah but is the Doctor talking about physical/mental power, or is he talking 
> about political power. I doubt the implication that some timelords can 
> travel without Tardises, so I would tend to believe the former. This still 
> doesn't refute your idea though. Any one else have some thoughts on the matte
> 
> ----Marc Seebass

When the Abbot vanished at some point, didn't it make the noise of a TARDIS?
I always thought the Abbot's TARDIS' chamaeleon circuit was set to transparent/
invisible.



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  Wayne McDougall, BCNU

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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Companions (Part 1/3) was Re: Companions list
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:04:37 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

> Doctor:  I was fond of her too, you know, Jamie.  [activates the TARDIS]
>  
>         [end theme/credits]
>  
> So, as you can see, there's nothing with Victoria for a reprise in the
> last minute or two.  Does anyone out there have the audio for episode 1
> of `The Wheel in Space' so can get an idea what her appearance at the
> beginning is?
>  
>  
> --
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>  

From what I've read, the TARDIS has its "helicopter" takeoff at the end
of "Fury" in the same way it landed at the start, i.e. not disappearing
but instead rising into the sky.  The last scene of "Fury" focusses on
the scanner screen as the ship lifts off, and the screen is focussed on
Victoria's face.

Steven.K.Manfred

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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: Doctor Who letter in TV Guide
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:26:29 GMT

In <9301211916.aa11081@macbeth.ocpt.ccur.com> hartnett@ocpt.ccur.com (Robert Sean Hartnett) writes:

>Hello Whovians,
>	In the January 23-29 edition of tv-guide a letter was printed asking
>how tv-guide overlooked Doctor Who. Apparently the letter was in response
>to an article that was printed in tribute to tv's greatest science-fiction
>programs. I myself missed this article. The question is in quotes below as
>it appeared in the tv-guide.
>"Doctor Who?
>	How in the name of Rasillion can tv-guide do a tribute to tv's
>greatest science-fiction programs ["Back to the Future",Dec ,26] without
>mentioning Dr Who? After 29 years, 569 episodes, and seven different actors 
                                    ^^^
Y'know, that's strange, I could have sworn there was a lot more than that...
Does anyone know the exact number (originally - before the purges)
Yeah, I know I could count them myself, but it's 6.30am, I've been
hunched over my keyboard all night, and I really couldn't be bothered... ;-)

>in the lead role, Dr Who never failed to amaze, amuse, and entertain 
>audiances throughout the world. Come on tv-guide, Pull up your socks!"
>		Mark Morrick
>		Belleville, Wis.
>	Hay Mark, I don't know if you read the net or not, but in either
>case, from another Whovian, my greatest "THANKS" to you and your initative
>for that letter. 

I second that.

Daniel.
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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: "Good Dalek" Question
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:55:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1993Jan21.171611.24279@pyra.co.uk> hugh@pyra.co.uk writes:
>Do  you  remember  the name of the story that had Dr.  Who  distilling  the
>Human  Factor  and injecting it into a Dalek who then became a  good  Dalek
>because  he could ask the question "Why ?" The Dalek's name was Peter if  I
>remember correctly.

The story was "The Evil Of The Daleks"... and it's lost.

The videos of the story (except for episode 2) don't exist anymore.
However, the BBC has released the entire 7-part story on audio tape.
Also, episode 2 was included on "Daleks: The Early Years", a compilation
video which might not have made it to America yet.

And as a matter of fact, there were three "good Daleks", at least at
first: Alpha, Beta, and Omega.
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Scorpii)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The valeyard from P & J Baker's point of view.
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:50:32 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1993Jan21.022113.15327@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next10csc.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:




>This is not the best novelization I've seen; It calls the guards' weapons  
>"phasers" (a Star trek term, last I heard) whereas these are probably what  
>the Doctor called "patrol stasers" in "The Invasion of Time".
>I hope my memory is working. Otherwise I'm merely making a fool of myself.

>--
>Eli Hawkins : mrmuon@wam.umd.edu

Yes, the Citadel Guard's weapons are called "stasers."  Non-canon it is, but
the FASA role-playing game discusses these at some length, along with some
other Who weaponry.

Pip and Jane have thoroughly failed to impress me at every turn.  The last
straw was the novelisation of "Time and the Rani", in which the Tetraps
supposedly speak backwards English as their native language.  UGH!  If I
ever came up with anything that corny after the age of eight in one of my
stories, I'd shoot myself.

Drewcifer
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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: New Working Titles List - Added Flavour!
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:04:41 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

One of the working title changes listed is:

Conquest of the Daleks --: Time Lash

This must have been a HELLUVA change.  Anyone got the full story behind
this one?  Was this supposed to read --: "Revelation of the Daleks"?  Or
was Glen McCoy originally going to write the next Dalek story?  *shudder*
From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Timewyrm: Exodus - a bit of a review like thing (SPOILERS)
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:43:22 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1993Jan25.192229@cogs.sussex.ac.uk> richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter) writes:

>Well, after I finally found this book in the only bookshop in the
>entirety of the south of England to still have a copy, I rushed
>home and read it (OK so it actually took me a couple of days but
>I wanted to sound real eager).

>So here's what I thought (MAJOR SPOILERS TIME)

















[stuff deleted]

>I also thought it odd that the Doctor didn't recognise the War Chief.
>I thought that the telepathic thought-waves of a Time Lord could be
>recognised by another (e.g. The Doctor recognises Borusa in the Five
>Doctors I think, without being told who he is - just an example that
>springs to mind). Perhaps I'm wrong, but it was a little odd. 

Yes, there are a few examples like this in the programme - Runcible
recognising the Doctor in The Deadly Assassin, for instance, but
I can also think of an example from Trial of A Time Lord - the Doctor
doesn't recognise The Valeyard, despite it being himself... Sort of...

This subject was mention in DWM once, the reason being given 
was that Time Lords must be able to 'disguise' themselves mentally
so as not to be recognised by other TLs in this way...
This makes sense, I think...

So the War Chief used something like that...

Daniel.
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