HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Earl.Appleby@f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Earl Appleby)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Ada Brochure
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:34:12 GMT
Reply-To: Earl.Appleby@f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:275/429 - HandiNet B B S, Virginia Beach VA

Index Number: 20822

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

ABLEnews Resource Report

                             ADA BROCHURE

In a recent letter to the editor of USA Today (3/5/92), veteran actor
Peter Falk notes the Americans with Disabilities Act requiring
businesses to make their facilities accessible to persons with
disabilities means "43 million potential customers."

Easter Seals has published a brochure on the Act for businesses and
employees. For a free copy send a self-addressed, stamped envelope to:

                "Building Bridges"
                National Easter Seal Society
                70 East Lake Street
                Chicago, Illinois 60601

And thanks, Columbo!

...For further information, contact CURE, 812 Stephen Street, Berkeley
Springs, West Virginia 254511 (304-258-LIFE/5433).

 * SLMR 2.1 * ABLEnews...your resourceful friend.

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From: Daniel.Murphy@hnews.fidonet.org (Daniel Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Shopping
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:32:06 GMT
Reply-To: Daniel.Murphy@hnews.fidonet.org
Organization: The Handicap News, Shelton CT (203) 337-1607

Index Number: 21171

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Nancy.  Around here, we have a relatively small market.  I have been living
here for about 12 years, and during that time, both I and my friend Jerry who
is also blind have gotten to know the people in the store quite well.  Usually
we try to hit it when it isn't too busy so the person who helps you won't be
distracted from telling you about availability of items.  This usually works
best in smaller markets, but I used to do some shopping in larger ones where
sometimes there is a customer service counter, and they can get someone to
help.  Asking a sighted friend can be usefull, and usually more enjoyable
because the two of you can just browse.

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From: Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Anybody who are deaf-blind?
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:59:02 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120.0 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX

Index Number: 20855

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 >   I am deaf / low vision also.

Stu, did you know that the March/April issue of SHHH Journal is
dedicated to the deaf/blind?  There are some really interesting
articles and information.

The director of SHHH, Rocky Stone, has vision problems even
though he didn't state the exact nature of his visual problems.

I believe SHHH is opening the field to include more deaf/blind
individuals which is great.  I can't praise SHHH enough - it
is such a wonderful organization.

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From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: lipreading
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:16:33 GMT
Reply-To: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 20938

In article <20777@handicap.news>, Karen.Keil@f71.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil) writes:
>
> When lipreading, the face is taken into account for cues, not just
> the lips.  I've found that something is lost when someone puts on
> sunglasses and then talks to me.

My sister lipreads so well that quite often she knows what I'm going
to say before I say it because she picks up on the word just from the
shape of my lips/mouth as I start forming it.

She was also very pleased because I finally went out and bought a book
on signing so we can hold private conversations.  I learned a few
sentences and greeted her with it but had to apologize for signing
a word wrong.  She told me I didn't sign it wrong, just crooked....
(It was kind of cute...)

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Stephanie da Silva                        Taronga Park * Houston, Texas
arielle@taronga.com                           568-0480   568-1032
"For such an absurd child, only an abstract will do!" -- Splatter Phoenix
From: James.Womack@f71.n382.z1.fidonet.org (James Womack)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: BI/BI
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:46:26 GMT
Reply-To: James.Womack@f71.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/71 - BitStream, Round Rock Tx

Index Number: 21225

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Bi/Bi stands for bi-lingual/bi-cultural approach. English is taught
from a cultural perspective as is ASL. The two are paired in the
learning experience of the child. Basically, you give the child a
natural language first and use it to teach the second language. The
idea is to get around the historical English only approach which
hasn't worked. I'll explain more laterif you really want to know.

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Anybody who is deaf-blin
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:08:38 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 21115

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, Bill.

Even among those who were *always* deaf and blind, how well they
function depends upon the individual.  Consider, for example, Kathleen
(Casey) Speare, now residing in Pennsylvania.  She was always profoundly
deaf-blind; many thought her retarded until she was twelve or so.  She
speaks very understandably, can sign in SEE, AMSLAN and straight
fingerspelling, can handle print-in-palm and is a *very* fast Braille
reader.  Consider also Gayle Sabonaitis; she does computer work via
refreshable Braille displays and has her ham license, among other
things.  She also is a good Braille reader.  I also believe Robert
Smithdas does well.
     However, you are correct; many deaf-blind individuals do not
function as well.  It is certainly a fact that there is much that they
have never known and the loss of two of the primary senses makes
deaf-blindness much more than a nuisance.  It is also true that for many
deaf-blind persons, social intercourse becomes a serious and difficult
undertaking.  My only point is that how well deaf-blind individuals
function is as unique as the individual.

Perhaps the deaf-blind should speak for themselves in this matter.  We
with hearing or sight certainly cannot speak from experience.  Hello,
Gayle, do you read this echo?

-Mike <K7UIJ>-
... ** "I think my learning curve is a circle." -- David Andrews **
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From: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Scientific American
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:49:15 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX

Index Number: 20826

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

John, Thanks for the reply. I did get a copy of the article. I was
really disapointed in it. The article was written by a
psychologist. He feels that phantom pain is all in the brain. I am
not really sure that I agree with what he had to say, but I do know
that this is an area that needs much more research, and I wonder if
the research needs to come from the area of psychology. I guess the
one thing that really turned me off about the article, was his list
of resources, they were all articles that the same author had
written. I do not feel the author talks from experience. I would be
most suprised if he or the assistants he mentions in the artcle
were amputees. If you get a chance you should read the article,
from a historical standpoint it does offer some interesting
points.

                   JimJ

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From: hodges@uwstout.edu (Brad Hodges)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Request for Info.
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:21:30 GMT
Reply-To: hodges@uwstout.edu (Brad Hodges)
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 20941

Request for Information.

Stefan Wiankowski is a 25 year old individual who is experiencing
quadraparasis and severe spasticity.

A pain specialist has recently recommended the implantation of a
SynchroMed Infusion system, to deliver morphine for pain relief and
Lioresal.

He has requested that I gather any information about this kind of
system before a final decision is made.

1.  Do any members of this group have first hand knowledge of this
or similar systems.

2.  What have been the up and down sides of this kind of implanted
system.

Please send all responses to me at the following
"hodges@uwstout.bitnet"

Thanks for your help.  Stefan is a great guy who has some difficult
decisions to make in the near future, any help from others who have
been there is appreciated.

Brad Hodges
From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO SCHEMATICS
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:08:50 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 21116

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to Nancy Feldman <25 Mar 92 16:16> Dan Kysor wrote:

 DK> the scematics portion of the technicians class license is
 DK> waved in testing... it's unrealistic to expect us to learn,
 DK> have the testing candidate contact their examiner and make
 DK> sure they understand this... dan n 6 i k c

Whoa there, Dan!

I vehemently disagree with you.  In college physics labs, I learned to
read raised electronics diagrams (my father as a reader wasn't all that
good at describing them).  I also learned to understand diagrams from
the verbal descriptions as given in Bob Gunderson's Braille Technical
Press and now in the Smith-Kettlewell Technical File.  When I took the
tests, I'd ask my reader questions about the diagrams and glean enough
info from judicious questioning to identify the circuits and answer the
questions.  It most certainly *is* realistic to expect blind prospective
hams to understand schematics and to be able to answer questions on
them.  BTW, had an Electricity and Magnetism physics proff whom you
could just hand a diagram and he could read it off verbally -- without
rehearsals.  Wish I could clone him about fifty times.

Perhaps the skill of understanding diagrams verbally is no longer taught
(what-say, Maureen Pranghofer?) but, given the Technical File's
existence, there must still be a few of us that can follow them.  And,
as long as one doesn't clutter up the diagrams overly much, raised
diagrams are perfectly comprehensible, IMHO.

It seems to me that by asking for waivers, we play right into the hands
of those who would take away -- albeit from the best of motives -- the
one really neat thing about blind hams -- the fact that we got into the
hobby on a basis of equality -- no special exceptions, etc.  We were
allowed to compete on terms of equality.  The QRQ code waiver is the
first step in eroding this status of equality, IMHO.  First-class
citizenship isn't necessarily a picnic!

-Mike <K7UIJ>-
... *The National Federation of the Blind is changing what it means to be blind.*
___
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From: Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Deafness & Education
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:58:43 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120.0 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX

Index Number: 20854

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 >  JW> <Body Text>Lesson: Though efforts are made to educate
 >  JW> deaf children to be like hearing children, they still
 >  JW> grow up to be deaf adults.
 >
 > Amen, James.  Well stated.
 >

What is it with you two regarding the above statement?  We are
PEOPLE first, not DEAF people first.  We just happen to be
individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing.

I think the above statement is what is wrong with the Deaf
Community and why they are often slighted in getting accepted.

Sorry if my comment offends you but that rubbed me the wrong
way.  I grew up in the hearing world and I'm damn proud of it.
I wouldn't want to be isolated by sticking to the Deaf Community.

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From: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Jamal Mazrui)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Foxpro Set file
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:16:09 GMT
Reply-To: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/460.0 - VI/BUG, Holbrook MA

Index Number: 20909

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Nice to meet you, Henry, and thanks to Ted Filteau for getting us in
touch.  Unfortunately, I have had little success getting FoxPro to work
adequately well with speech.  In my mind, there are two problems:
getting the development environment (particularly the command window)
to be speech friendly, and getting the programs one writes to speech
friendly to users with speech access.  I was able to do both of these
with the previous version of Foxbase, Foxbase Plus.  As an example,
perhaps you might give the Contact Tracking System software a try,
which is available on BlinkLink, VIBUG, and other boards.

One of the difficulties with FoxPro is that it uses the Alt key pressed
alone to invoke the system menu bar.  This plays havoc with Vocal-Eyes
hot keys I have defined which use Alt letter combinations.  I know that
I can re-assign hot keys to Control key combinations.  However, I have
designed a configuration set that uses most Alt and Control key
combinations in a pattern I find to be logical and mnenic.  As an
example of this problem, if I press an Alt letter combination to read
the current line in the command window, it instead reads me the system
menu bar at the top of the screen.  This happens because when FoxPro
sees that Alt has been pressed, it moves the cursor to the line
containing the system menu bar, even before any other key is pressed in
conjunction with the Alt key.

Since the system menu bar can be present in programs one writes, not
just available in the development environment, it can cause problems
there too.  Have you found any techniques to stop this problem?

On a positive note, Chip Orange seems to making some significant
progress accessing FoxPro by setting up monitor windows with Flipper
and re-configuring his hot keys so that they use the Control instead of
Alt key.  I think you can post a message to him here.  With respect to
getting the resulting program to talk, I have not been able to
replicate what Chip has done.

It is possible to do a gret deal with Foxbase Plus by taking to its
limits and using some creative work arounds.  For example, I have
figured out ways of managing memo fields quite effectively, of dialing
a modem, and of programming function keys.  It would be nice though to
gain efficient access to FoxPro.  I just downloaded a configuration
set file from BlinkLink that is labeled as one you developed for
FoxPro.  I will check it out.  Also, I look forward to hearing about
any other progress you have made.

Regards,

Jamal

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From: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Saus)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Migraines
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:54:21 GMT
Reply-To: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:376/72.160 - Windows of the Worl, Columbia SC

Index Number: 20841

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hang on to your hats, folks.  Glaxo Pharmaceutical Company has just
started advertising in medical journals that they will soon be
introducing a new drug for Migraine Headache therapy.  I don't know
any specific information about this yet, not even the name of the
drug, but there has been talk within the medical community for
years that they were putting a significant research effort into
developing a much better drug for Migraine Headaches than has ever
been available before.  I'll be happy to share any further
information as I hear about it, but keep your eyes and ears open
for an announcement from Glaxo; I believe this may come within the
next few months to a year.

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From: Christopher.Baker@f14.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Christopher Baker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Scientific American
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:50:31 GMT
Reply-To: Christopher.Baker@f14.n374.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:374/14 - Rights On!, Titusville FL

Index Number: 20830

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

> disapointed in it. The article was written by a psychologist. He feels
> that phantom pain is all in the brain. I am not really sure that
> I agree with what he had to say, but I do know that this is an area that
> needs much more research, and I wonder if the research needs to come from
> the area of psychology. I guess the one thing that really turned me off

where else would pain of any kind be? perhaps you should read it
again disregarding that a 'psychologist' wrote it? the theory for
the origin of these disembodied sensations makes a lot of sense to
me. the author called for more research and has done a lot of
original work himself. since there is not much going on that field,
who else should he quote?

> about the article, was his list of resources, they were all articles
> that the same author had written. I do not feel the author talks from
> experience. I would be most suprised if he or the assistants he mentions
> in the artcle were amputees.

you don't have to jump off a skyscraper to correctly postulate that
the sudden stop is going to kill you. he documents his empirical
evidence from amputee, spinal injury, and congenital limb-missing
cases. were you upset that he offered no cure for a condition
hardly understood?

> If you get a chance you should read the article, from a historical
> standpoint it does offer some interesting points.

IMHO, the article is a breakthrough in cognitive process. i can't
but wonder why you've attacked it? i suggest the rest of this
audience read it for themselves and disregard your negative review
until they have done so. [grin]

TTFN.
Chris

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: depression
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:28:54 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 21155

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to Jeanne Mcwhorter <31 Mar 92 01:20> Ann Lemke wrote:

[...]

 AL> I believe that for some
 AL> endocrinological reasons, blind persons may be
 AL> more at risk for depression than is
 AL> generally supposed.  Depression is a

[...]

Please elucidate.  This is the sort of assertion that seems often to be
made but which is seldom backed by statistically valid evidence.

Assuming your assertion is true (which, BTW, I do not), are the
adventitiously blind more prone to depression than are the congenitally
blind?  What effects (if any) do race, sex, life-style, knowledge of the
alternative techniques of blindness, etc. have upon the supposed
depressive tendency?  Has a multiple-regression analysis been done to
separate out tendencies toward depression that would occur naturally in
the groups studied from those which might be attributable to blindness
per se?

Thanks in advance.

-Mike <K7UIJ>-
... *The National Federation of the Blind is changing what it means to be blind.*
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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: AVOS, Inc.
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:09:50 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA

Index Number: 21121

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello, BlinkTalkers!

During the early to mid 1980's, when there were still CP/M computers
aplenty, a company named AVOS, Inc. manufactured computer systems with
speech-synthesis screen-reading access based upon CP/M machines --
first, the Osborne I and later the Telcon Zorba.  Out of curiosity, I'd
like to know if anyone out there -- whether due to necessity, as a hobby
(a la antique automobiles) or sheer cussedness -- is still using one of
these AVOS, INC. machines?  I have no doubt that the AVOS Blind Users
Group has long evaporated into oblivion (how's that for mixed
metaphors).  But if some out there are still using these machines -- the
Zorba, especially -- I have tons of good software (including versions of
comm programs Kermit and QTERM) that I'd be glad to share.  I'd also be
interested to find out (if there are other hackers out there besides
Howard Goldstein) whether anybody has gotten ZMP, the CP/M Zmodem
program, to work on the Zorba?  (Yes, I know, I know, the Zorba's BIOS
doesn't protect IX and IY registers over BIOS calls; I've modified mine
to solve that problem).  So, I'm assuming anybody that's got ZMP going
on the Zorba has also modified his/her BIOS to protect IX/IY since
Hi-Tech C assumes IX/IY are preserved.

Anyway, just curious (dunno whether yellow or blue).

Cheers!

-Mike <K7UIJ>-
... ** Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. **
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From: Laurel.Gealt@f201.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Laurel Gealt)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: HONESTY
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:01:24 GMT
Reply-To: Laurel.Gealt@f201.n273.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/201 - US Telematics, Yardley PA

Index Number: 20862

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Karen, people are coming up with all kinds of solutions to inner
ear hearing losses.  One I read about has to do with transmitting
sound thru an organ in the ear called the "saccule".  It is very
complicated, and I don't understand it well enough to describe it.
Also, they are looking for a drug that will cause the little hairs
in the inner ear to grow back again.  They think they may be able
to do this because, in birds, when the little hairs are destroyed
they grow back again.  And they think if they can fibd the chemical
that the bird's body produces to grow the hairs, they can make it
into a medicine and give it to people.  So I am keeping my hopes up
that something will happen before I die of old age.

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