From: rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo)
Subject: Re: FurryMUCK Pins Down Space Madness? :)
Followup-To: rec.games.mud.tiny
Organization: Random Gang
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:55:12 GMT

Kostchyevkov wrote:
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>As if that weren't bad enough, we have scum in our midst making matters worse.
> [i.e. Grod, or Niconian]

>I went over to Space Madness earlier today for a while, sat and listened in
>their main hang out joint. Many of them just were shooting the breeze, but a
>few in particular were acting as if they had nothing better to do than bash
>furry and particular furries.      

>One of those is GROD. He was /quoting stuff, I realized quickly, REALTIME from
>a character in WCOP. Quoting, misquoting, and taking things in and out of 
>context to make all sorts of harmless statements seem perverse as hell, and 
>what he did with the !harmless statements is obvious. Anyhow, he was doing
>this much to the amusement of his compadres. He also called up some bits that
>were not realtime, so they must have been previously logged. 

What you completely fail to understand, Kosty, is that everyone on Space
Madness is quite smart enough to know that those statements are being taken
one line at a time.  In fact, if you had hung around long enough, you would
have found out that this is a thing we often do to ourselves.

>I do not think he was necessarily the person who posted the logs to R.G.M.T.,
>but he might have been. He has the know how, the maliciousness, and the crude
>attitude.     

PLEASE.  Grod is smart, (EVIL!) and rambunctious, but not functionally
malicious.

>Whether or NOT he did, he may as well have.

You know, Kostchyevkov, when people say "furrymuck is a place inhabited by
stupid people", they're talking about idiotic statements like this.  I have
the utmost respect for your character -- heck, I've even tried to get into
her pants a few times.  But this 'guilty because I think he is' crap just
doesn't wash.  I think Grod deserves an apology.

> Someone mentioned in several of 
>those logs came into WCOP while I was watching him and he began harassing her
>via spoof.

Well, he's a little tasteless sometimes. :)

> I understand she wants her anonymity so she isn't pressing to have
>the bastard toaded. Me? I won't go into what I'd like to do with him.   I
>should point out that whether or not he IS the person who posted those stolen
>logs, what he is doing is EQUALLY as bad.

Really?  He's stealing someone's files and posting them on a network?

Look, quoting someone in the west corner of the park is completely and utterly
harmless.  For all you know, most of the space madness players in the bar were
in the park, too.  Even assuming you cared about their opinions, you wouldn't
be safe from their disdain if Niconian were to have not quoted the funny bits.

> We can't do much about him, if we
>toad him, he'll sneak another character on and do it again.    

Well, sure.  Space Madness players love a challenge.  The point is, him telling
a circle of friends WHAT HE SEES is SIMPLY NOT A PROBLEM.

>IN THE MEANTIME, his name is Niconian, his DBREF is #33549. Lock some object
>you own to it, in case he changes his name. It will let you keep track of him
>so you don't accidentally say anything or do anything inhis presence that he
>can use against you by /quoting it or logging it and posting it elsewhere.     

While you're at it, lock objects to every member of space madness's random
gang.  My characters are Quarantine and Derail and about six others.

>Better still, lets all lock everything we can against him. Or just the outside
>entrances. Let him know how we feel.  

All he did was take what was happening in front of him and tell it to a bunch
of people somewhere else.  If you're so pathetic that you're embarrassed by
what you're doing in public and don't want anyone else to know, then you should
probably lock everything you can against yourself so you don't have to deal
with other people.

>Also, anyone who figures any other characters he has? Post them here!!! You
>aren't harassing him, you're preventing him from harassing the rest of us.

Witch hunt.

>Your (Benevolent, Protective) Bitch-Kitty Dyke-Vixen from Hell. 

you forgot Loopy.  Sorry, Katya, but you're waaaay overboard on this one.

Quarantine
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Felix Sebastian Gallo                              rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org
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