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From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: Re: The Stalker/This weeks Spoiler
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:19:32 EST
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In article <1992Dec14.084550.4591@memstvx1.memst.edu>, mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> 
> Well I suppose next week we will get the "low-down" on the "stalker" and put
> this to rest. Why? Because in the previews for this weeks episode they show
> Gwen confronting the "stalker", I assume, by chastising the person dressed up
> as SANTA at the Christmas party to stay away from her!
> 
> Ok the Stalker--
> Stewart- Well I can't believe she accused him, no I don't think it's him!

Exactly, he is way too benign....even though he has a gun, he's not the sick,
malicious type.  Besides, he's probably doing time now anyway, after last week. 

> Daniel- 
> 	He would fit I mean he could have paid someone to scare her in the
> 	garage the timing was to perfect.
> 	But they wouldn't bring in an Actor like him just to do away with him
> 	so quickly!

Well, they've done nothing with him yet, maybe this is his big part of LA Law.
I mean, all he does is rear his child there in the law firm.  What a job!

> 	Here's an idea what about someone from Daniel's past?
> The X-Wife of the man she helped get the divorce settlement. This would work
> but:

It's probably related to him somehow...I agree.  I mean, he is always around
everytime she gets a gift.  In most mystery plots, the culprit is generally the
one who is most in control of events, or who is seemingly innocent, but often
nearby.  But....since she's already guessed him, it probably ISN'T him.

> 	The "Santa" theory leaves that it looked like a man, and why would
> 	someone who doesn't work at the firm be the parties Santa!
> Any other ideas???
> Rai.

So the stalker is the Santa?  Does anyone think it's one of the old characters? 
I don't think it's Kittridge, actually, although he is real slime, to be sure.
It's either Martinez, the dorky DA (I doubt it), the wierd guy staring at
her, or one of Martinez's connections.  
The ex-wife could well be involved.  But how would she know her every move?

Most unlikely would be Roxanne, Tommy, Jonathan, Stuart, Arnie, Douglas,
Leland.  Ann is kind of obnoxious, but she's not malicious I don't think.
She still probably resents Gwen's 'sexiness' and Stuart's weakness for it.
Benny, no way.  Lincoln couldn't wrap a package.  Are we over-looking anyone?
Melina doesn't know Gwen, so even though she's very abrupt, I don't think she'd
bother with all the suspense of 'gift-giving' tactics.  She would probably just
punch her lights out and be done with it.

Someone is deliberately trying to 'torture' Gwen.  Who has that kind of seering
hatred toward her?
Unless one of our beloved characters (old or new) has turned psychopath.
Like someone said, why would Martinez even bother?  She already is hot after
him as it is!  So who else might be interested in Martinez?  No one I can 
think of...

So I guess the Santa will race out so we still won't know who it is. 
I hope, though, someone will clobber him/her, and yank the beard off, only 
to reveal that it's.....KUZAK!!!  
-Pamela Cho-
From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
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Subject: Is Martinez the Stalker?
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:57:46 EST
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Maybe it is Martinez after all.  They could be making the point that sometimes
a good looking person can be very dangerous.  Like the Ted Bundy personality.

-Pamela Cho-
From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Thoughts/Spoilers on 12/11 Show
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In article <Bz4vKy.EF6@cs.uiuc.edu> Milt Epstein, epstein@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>In <1992Dec11.203329.2120@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com 
>(steve.bruun) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Dec11.202320.1823@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, 
>sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun) writes:
>>> ... the new associate, Melina Parros ...
>>
>>Just following up on my own post to correct my mistake before hundreds
>>of other jump on it.  That should be "Elena" Parros.
>
>Are you sure?  It sounded like "Melina" to me.  (I know others have
>posted "Elena".)

According to last week's TV Guide...it's Melina.

>Milt Epstein

Joanna.

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From: st923642@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: hi
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:18:21 GMT

hi, fellow LA Law fans.  I don't think A. Martinez is stalking Gwen.  It's too obvious! -Aryn
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From: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein)
Subject: Re: Thoughts/Spoilers on 12/11 Show
Reply-To: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:34:09 GMT

In <1992Dec11.203329.2120@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.202320.1823@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun) writes:
>> ... the new associate, Melina Parros ...
>
>Just following up on my own post to correct my mistake before hundreds
>of other jump on it.  That should be "Elena" Parros.

Are you sure?  It sounded like "Melina" to me.  (I know others have
posted "Elena".)

-- 
Milt Epstein
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.la-law
Subject: The Stalker/This weeks Spoiler
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:45:50 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

-----

Well I suppose next week we will get the "low-down" on the "stalker" and put
this to rest. Why? Because in the previews for this weeks episode they show
Gwen confronting the "stalker", I assume, by chastising the person dressed up
as SANTA at the Christmas party to stay away from her!

Ok the Stalker--

Stewart- Well I can't believe she accused him, no I don't think it's him!

Daniel- 
	He would fit I mean he could have paid someone to scare her in the
	garage the timing was to perfect.
	
	But they wouldn't bring in an Actor like him just to do away with him
	so quickly!

	Here's an idea what about someone from Daniel's past?

The X-Wife of the man she helped get the divorce settlement. This would work
but:

	The "Santa" theory leaves that it looked like a man, and why would
	someone who doesn't work at the firm be the parties Santa!

Any other ideas???

Rai.

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From: mary@lgc.com (Mary Peterson)
Subject: Re: The Stalker
Organization: LandMark Graphics Corporation
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:51:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.175836.2463@news.columbia.edu>, jsl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (J. Shawn Landres) writes:
|> Candidates for stalker:
|> 1) Daniel Martinez (not likely, given that he'd have to go to jail off screen)
|> 2) Tommy (NOT!)
|> 
|> and my choice . . .
|> 
|> 3) a (male/female) office worker with designs on (Daniel/Gwen) who is jealous
|>    of their romance.
|> 
|> Remember, there is no reason that the first gift (flowers) could not have been
|> from Leland because of her conduct in that old case. And that's when Gwen
|> pounced on Daniel . . . and he responded.
|> 

I just thought of one. How about Lucy's babysitter? I know it's reaching but
I am stumped too. Maybe she is in love with Daniel and saw Gwen and her kiss
and doesn't want anyone to have her if she can't. Why do I even care anymore?
I have been a loyal fan, but started to lose interest last season, even
missing a few episodes and not taping them. But, this Stuart thing is making
me sick. Why can't they just drop the thing and let him get on with it.
I can't believe the Michael Tucker is happy with how things are going. At`
lease on Civil Wars when Eli when crazy they got him back to normal with
some character-building quirks. And how could a law firm let Jonathon leave
after he has been gone so long? If I did that with my employer I would be
subscribing to alt.jobs.offered. And Roxanne, wake up! If you had trouble
getting in the mood because it felt like business, how can you keep it 
business? Tommy has always been passionate, did you really think he would
just leave it alone? Besides, you may have to go to bed again, once is not
always enough to get to pregoville.
-- 
Mary
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From: sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun)
Subject: Re: Thoughts/Spoilers on 12/11 Show
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:33:29 GMT
Summary: Whoops!

In article <1992Dec11.202320.1823@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun) writes:
> ... the new associate, Melina Parros ...

Just following up on my own post to correct my mistake before hundreds
of other jump on it.  That should be "Elena" Parros.

- Steve Bruun


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From: peea224@chpc.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo)
Subject: TV Guide summary for Dec. 10, 1992
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 16:39:58 GMT

I forgot to post this last week.  Here goes anyway...

Episode #7 of the 1992-93 season.

TV Guide summary (reproduced without permission) follows:


Episode title:  Helter Shelter

The lawyers welcome spirited new associate Melina Paros (Lisa Zane) to
the firm; Markowitz goes off the deep end while helping Benny retrieve
his dog; Becker, in his thirst for power, accepts an intricate 
assignment to help push World Wide Studios back into the black; 
Brackman teams with an unlikely partner; and Mullaney sees Roxanne in
a new light.  Flicker:  Shelley Berman.  Beatrice:  Salome Jens.

Joanna.

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From: amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Amy McNulty)
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Subject: 12/10 -- first half -- what happened?
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:21:01 GMT
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I got home later than expected last night, and missed
the first half of the show. Could some kind person
please send me a summary? I'm especially curious
about how they introduced the new partner, what they
said about her background and why they were so 
secretive about hiring her, and what the other
partners/lawyers thought of her....

Thanks a million!

______________________________________________________________
amy_mcnulty@vos.stratus.com  or  amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Amy McNulty -- Stratus Computer, Marlboro, MA
Stratus pays me to write, but not to write this!
From: roder@cco.caltech.edu (Brenda J. Roder)
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Subject: Re: I missed it! (Spoilers for 12/17 episode)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:05:48 GMT
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mary@lgc.com (Mary Peterson) writes:

>Please help! I had to Christmas shop last night but forgot to tape LAL.
>Can a kind soul email me what happened, or post it with Spoiler. I need
>to know what happened to Stuart, and the stalker status. How did Stuart
>return to normal as TV guide put it. I know Rox is pregnant, I caught the
>last minute of the show, but is she ok with Tommy now? What was the case
>this week? The continuation of the child abuse case I assume, but how did
>it end?



Stuart was put in a hospital for evaluation.  Eventually they found a cyst
in his brain which he is being medicated for.  The cyst was probably caused
by trauma (i.e. the riots) and was causing the weird moods, headaches,
confusion, anger etc.  Ann defended him on his charges (against Tommy as
DA) and he got a suspended sentence. [Editorial note: should Tommy have been
allowed to have this case seeing that he has connections to the defendant?]

Stalker:  no resolution yet.  no more presents.  Gwen accused Daniel and he
denied it plus Rox was telling her it couldn't be him because he is such a 
good father and so on.

Child abuse case:  A videotape was sent anonymously to Melina.  It showed the
mother injecting something into the child's IV at the hospital.  It was 
decided that the mother had Munchausen by Proxy syndrome wherein a person
causes another (usually a child) to get ill.  (Munchausen is where you do it
to yourself).  It is a form of child abuse, but I hope the mother will get
help as well.  She ended up admitting on the stand that she killed her first
child, "but he was only supposed to get sick".  The mother was a diabetic 
and so had insulin and that was what she injected in the child's IV.  They
had an unaccounted for syringe at the hospital with traces of insulin in it.
At the end of the show, Leland congratulates Melina on the case and she asks
how he knows about it.  It turns out he has a friend on the Board of Directors
of the hospital.  So she says that he had the video camera placed and he 
admits it but says he couldn't tell her or that would have made the tape 
inadmissible.  It was only allowed because the hospital, as a private entity,
had installed the camera, so no warrant is required to get the information.

Rox and Tommy:  It was kind of unclear to me what their exact status is.
Tommy was upset with Rox for most of the episode and wouldn't tell her why,
but was happy at the end when it turned out she was pregnant.


-- 
-- Brenda (roder@cobalt.caltech.edu)
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:26:55 -0500 
From: Dawn Marie Neuhart <dn1g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Stalker/This weeks Spoiler
	<1992Dec16.093101.2283@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>
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also, Susan Bloom, after she had learned how Frank got his information,
fired him.  Needless to say, he didn't leave the firm on good terms.

-dawn
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From: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Subject: Re: The Stalker
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:27:45 GMT
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I just had a thought--maybe Gwen is sending them to herself!  If the show
is going to nose-dive into soap opera land with plots about amnesia, how
about that other plot line so near and dear to writers, the SPLIT 
PERSONALITY!  

Mary H.
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From: ddh@earth.esd.sgi.com
Subject: Re: The Stalker/This weeks Spoiler
Organization: Silly Guys, Inc.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 05:17:24 GMT

|> How about Susan Bloom?

No, no, I've got it!!  It's ... (drum roll) ... none other than Ms. CJ Lamb.  What
was her real motivation for leaving the firm over the summer?  Unbeknownst to all of
us, her and Gwen had found themselves in the throes of passion.  Gwen, terrified
of discovering her own hidden sexuality, rejects a disheartened CJ who then leaves
the firm on other pretenses.  Unable to deal with the rejection CJ seeks to torment
Gwen into rejecting all men as cruel beasts so that she (Gwen) will return to her.
Instead, it is going to drive her closer to Daniel and result in either a violent
confrontation involving the three of them or possibly a menage a trois.

... then again maybe not :-) :-).

Alas, I'm afraid that this should be LA Law's last season; they've forgotten about
the law part of the show.  It has disintegrated into another Dallas clone.
From: kat@banach.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion)
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Subject: Re: Thoughts/Spoilers on 12/11 Show
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:28:43 GMT
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In article <00964ED9.1C5E24C0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>
>But wasn't he in the elevator of the parking garage?  It seems very unlikely
>that he'd skulk around carrying Lucy, then somehow get into the elevator just
>at the moment Gwen called it.
>
>
>>I don't think it's Daniel (A Martinez).  I agree with you that it's too
>>obvious; she jumped to that conclusion right away.  Logistically speaking,
>>I doubt they'd bring a big-name soap actor onto the show, just to have him
>>be a psycho and get rid of him.  He's the only one who would have a REASON
>>to have fairy-tale books, given that he has a baby. He also hasn't known
>>her that long, and she's practically thrown herself at him; why bother stalking
>>her?  (Not that psychos make a lot of sense.) 

In the parking garage seen, he was coming out of the elevator while the stalker
was taking off in some beat up old station wagon.  How could he have been in
two places at once?

>I don't think it's Daniel for the same reason.  

>One thing I wondered about--why would the pound let Benny adopt a pet but not
>take Lincoln?  He (Lincoln, not Benny) didn't have a tag, so if some "little
>girl" walked in and said he was hers, why would they let her have him and not
>Benny?  I know, I know, dramatic license, but this just seemed contrived.

I suppose that you could drag out social commentary from this.  If you dig
really deep you can see the discrimination against the mentally retarded.
But you kinda have to stress it pretty thin especially after Stuart came in
with his card and such.  

>I hate to admit it, but I'm getting curious as to who the stalker is. :-)

Same here... *sigh* These soaps know how to draw you up and suck you in.

kat
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From: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Subject: Re: The Stalker/This weeks Spoiler
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:14:54 GMT
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Doesn't Arnie Becker have an ex-wife with reason to dislike Gwen?  She also
has a young daughter so probably has access to fairy tale books.

I guess the writers have accomplished their aim in getting us all guessing.
I hope the resolution to this is worthy of us. :-)

Mary H.
From: brad@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Brad Appleton)
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Subject: Arnie's stupidity
Summary: Is it just me?
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:19:45 GMT
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Is it just me or is anyone else insulted that the writers would expect
me to believe what Arnie did with the "Wheelchaired grandmother" in 
last nights episode?

Since when has Arnie ever taken a client's word without question
about something of that magnitude? Even so -- its the way he
tried to expose her that has me in disbelief!!!  Like Arnie
really believed that if he confronted her and she still denied
it that she wouldnt "fake" a collapse when he "forced" her to
stand up.  I would have at least expected him to do something
similar to what Jonathan did with the "Flying Gianelli's" case
to "surprise" the woman.

At the very least, I would have expected Arnold (who used to use PIs
more than anyone else in the firm) to hire a PI to follow the woman
and take pictures so he would have some hard evidence. He had to have
known that both he "and" the firm would be "liable for damages"
if the woman continued her "handicapped" charade even after he 
confronted her directly.

As for Roxanne and Tommy - Aren't the writer's pushing a little
too hard on this one. Its happening too fast to be believable
(especially since Tommy just said g'bye to Zooey not too long ago).

Also -- I agree with others that "Daniel" is TOO OBVIOUS to be the
"Gwen-stalker". It doesnt "HAVE" to be someone in the firm (contrary
to Anne's belief), just someone who has access to the information
(which means it could be someone who knows someone at the firm and is
getting the info from them). And its not as if no one else but Daniel
knows the fairy tails in question (although he is probably the only
one who keeps them in his office).

Anyway -- Im hoping (but not holding my breath) that the stalker will
turn out to be a woman (just as a twist). Perhaps it could even be
Daniels ex-wife come back from the dead ("her death was faked" ;-) to
make sure no one else messes with her man :-) :-) :-)

As for Stuart being a suspect, who knows the way this season
is going, although I think it would be a lot harder to keep
a slaughtered animal heart from Anne than it would be to hide
a gun from her.

I think the stalker is Lincoln ;-)

Too much "soap" and not enough "courtroom" this year!!!

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From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
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Subject: Re: Thoughts/Spoilers on 12/11 Show
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:00:55 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Dec11.163902.3315@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Im a Joker Im a Smoker Im a Midnight Toker) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.151539.15406@chpc.utexas.edu> Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu> writes:
>>In article <1ga6suINNrel@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> Vicki Powers, vicki@mathcs.emory.edu
>>writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec11.101435.29658@wam.umd.edu>, mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise 
>>2>Cassidy) writes:
>>>> I had Stuart pegged with that gun as soon as he gave the guy his card...!
>>>> 
>>>> And for Martinez being the stalker..yes it fits..but it seems wayy to obvious.
>>>> Geezz..if it is him..is McKenzie/Brackman gonna put a psychiatric ward in the 
>>>office for him?????
>>>
>>>4
>>>Wait a second!  Several people seem to be saying that Martinez is the stalker.
>>>Gwen's last remark was something about "Daniel".  Is Martinez's first name
>>>Daniel?  I thought she was talking about someone in her past or something like
>>>that.  Inquiring minds want to know...
>>
>>The actor's name is A Martinez...the character's name is Daniel 
>>Morales.  Just for the record, I don't think it's Daniel.  As several
>>people have pointed out, it's too obvious.  I think it's a smoke screen 
>>and the real stalker is the DA guy.
>>
>I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that the stalker is a female, and that
>it is the new associate (played by Lisa Zane). YOu want a motive? I'll give
>you one: she doesn't want to be threatened by this night school, second
>rate attorney who just waltzes in and gets the job while she has been
>slaving for years to get a position like this. Most of the fairy tales
>mentioned have an evil FEMALE as the lead villain. Yeah, it's a stretch,
>but since the character will probably only be around for one season why not
>
>She could also have a crush on A MArtinez, and followed him in here,
>hey they're both hispanic, why not have it tie in some way, as is always
>the case with this show...


Actually, the new associate is supposed to be Greek.  I, too thought
she was hispanic or Italian but my husband (notice teh greek name) caught
her name as Greek and for those not in the know (like me with her name)
her island of happiness she told Jonathon was a Greek name and she was
unpacking a greek like vase in her office.  The island's name
was Skiathos.
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