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From: olin@cheme.tn.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson)
Subject: Re: Maximum number of parameters in a link command
Reply-To: olin@cheme.tn.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University School of Chemical Engineering
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:17:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.144149.14378@rdg.dec.com>, winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep15.104700.25251@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk>,
>a006700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Tang Sammy) observes that DCL has a limit of
>eight items in a comma list parameter and asks:
>|>
>|>It seems that DCL has a preset limit on the number of parameters in
>|>a DCL command. If it's true, can I adjust it to fit my need?
>
>The limit is hard-coded in DCL and cannot be changed without patching or
>rebuilding the command interpreter.

As I am sure that several other people will point out, this is simply not
true, nor is it an answer to the question! The limit discussed is the
number of command parameter; the number of items in a comma-separated
list is limited only by the maximum command line length.

steve

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: rance@vivian.enet.dec.com (Stuart Rance)
Subject: Re: standalone vax and cluster on same CI ?
Reply-To: rance@vivian.enet.dec.com (Stuart Rance)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:50:42 GMT


> Is anyone running a standalone VAX and a VAXcluster on the same CI?

I have come across a number of sites over the years who have regretted 
trying to do this.  It appears to work correctly and 99% of the time
you will not see any problems.

I know of many sites that have "FOOLPROOF" strategies to prevent
disks being simultaneously mounted from the cluster and the standalone node
At three of these sites they have had to restore backups after a combination of 
Hardware/System Manager/Operator failures.

I know of a few sites who used to run a Production cluster at a fairly low VMS
version and a development system on the same CI running a higher version of VMS.
When the VMS MSCP tape server first came out they upgraded the development 
system to the new version, it advertised a VMS served Tape and the production
cluster running a version of VMS that couldn't understand the packets 
immediately crashed.

If you are prepared to accept these sort of risks and you don't mind being 
told that your configuration is 'unsupported' then go ahead, it'll probably 
work.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: WHO.COM (UIC/username translation) addendum
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 02:29:19 GMT

In article <FFB2089476DFC0FD69@sb.hhs.dk>, ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj) writes:
>> >>
>> >>$! UAF.COM
>> >>  ...
>> >>$ define sysuaf SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT !<- sysuaf.dat must be world read
>> >>  ...
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> > NOT!
>> >
>> 
>> In order for the command procedure to run, sysuaf.dat has to be world read.
>> Either that or the procedure can only be used by a privileged user. How you
>> manage your site's security is up to you. WYSIWYG
> 
> Well I did not save the original posting, but I assume, that it is correct,
> that it will only run when SYSUAF can be read.
> 
> But I will strongly recommend NOT to let SYSUAF.DAT be world readable.
> 
> It is a BIG potential security risk.
> 
> It will be very simple to write a passwords cracker, that test a list
> of commonly used password against all usernames, by reading username and
> encrypted passwords (and salt) out of such a file.
> 
> All system-managers must find their own level of security, so it is OK to
> post such a COM-file and tell how it can be used, but please inform people
> about the potential security problem. Thay need to have all the information
> to make a good decision !!!!
> 

Agreed! Point taken...


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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: frazier@orion.TTI.COM (kent Frazier)
Subject: DECPS..anybody using it??? 
Reply-To: frazier@orion.TTI.COM (kent Frazier)
Organization: Transaction Technology, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:50:07 GMT

I'm interested in knowing if anyone has used the new DEC PS performance
monitoring software. If so, what's your opinion? Do you have any 
recommendation for other (3rd party) performance monitoring software?

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fisk@cvdv73 (Tom Fisk, 2D-337 STM, 5-4341)
Subject: Re: LSE font on SONY Trinitron, how change?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: fisk@mayo.edu
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Date: 13 Sep 1992 20:14 -0700

In article <13SEP92.16064664@secs.ucsc.edu>, system@secs.ucsc.edu writes...
>We note that LSE on high res SONY trinitron color workstations displays
>the text bigger than on the 3100 workstations we had which are lower res.
>The choices in the LSE options menu are unsatisfactory and we would like
>to redefine them so it doesn't take such a big window to display 80 char,
>but so it is still easily read.  We don't know if these can be redefined by
>an entry in a defaults file.

This is because the 100 DPI font is being used as the default for your system, 
which, while having better definition, also has the drawback of being larger
than the 75dpi fonts.  To choose the 75dpi fonts for your workstation, change
the file DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_STARTUP.COM in SYS$MANAGER and set the
global symbol decw$server_density to 100 (i.e. "$ decw$server_density == 100").
Then restart DECwindows (@DECW$STARTUP restart).

The 75dpi fonts are just as legible as the 100dpi fonts (IMHO).

Good luck!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Quentin Robert DeNameland)
Subject: Re: CSLG licensing of VMS
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.035029.3808@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes...
>  Thus, a license entitling an 8350 to go from any VMS version it was prev-
>iously licensed for to the current version is QL-001AH-R5 at $4380 (CLP).
>[p. 1-p, "U.S. Software Price List", 7/29/92, EE-C0824-98]

Jeezus, what a joke, you can get a complete vaxstation 4000/vlc for that! An
8350 is almost worthless, you'd have to be crazy to pay that just for a
'license upgrade'. This 'license upgrade' price must be based on what the (6
year old?) machine originally sold for... Anyone who'd pay that may as well
just buy an IBM mainframe! 


Tom O'Toole - ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu - JHUVMS system programmer 
Homewood Computing Facilities, Johns Hopkins University, Balto. Md. 21218 
> * OLX 2.1 * ease!Trim!eeeaaaassse!trimtrimTRIMeeeeeeeaaaaaasse!trimea
From: 00mjstum@bsu-ucs.uucp (Matthew J. Stum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VAX Pascal and callable mail
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:12:16 GMT

I wrote in response to a query:
>> I've been playing -- rather naively -- with Joe Meadows' callable
>> mail materials, but with singular lack of success. I don't know C,
>> the language his examples are in, and Pascal fails to perform.
>> 
>> In fact it won't even compile, sticking at the first mention of a
>> MAIL$xxx routine, calling it an undeclared identifier. This is
>> despite ``inheriting'' STARLET, which contains the definitions of
>> all the MAIL$_xxx codes, but not the MAIL$xxx routines. I've gone
>> hunting for definitions of the routines in most of the files in
>> SYS$LIBRARY, and there don't seem to be any, not even in MAILDEF.H. 
>> 
>> Can someone give me a hint, please???
> 
[...]
> (I have some nicer, general-purpose VAX Pascal MAIL
> routines, but I wrote them before the official documentation came out
> so some of the data-structures are seriously gross, but work.)

I just cleaned up one of my more-used MAIL programs called FROM.  It is
written in VAX Pascal and should be fairly site-independent (except you 
have to change one line in the FROM.PAS file to point to the help library).
I've posted it in a 2-part VMS_SHARE file to VMSNET.SOURCES (if I have the
moderation set up correctly on our end).

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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Dump file advice?
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

In article <7SEP92.23113803@moleng.ucsc.edu>, wipke@moleng.ucsc.edu writes:
>Is it necessary to have a separate dump file for every satellite
>node as a separate file?  I recall some discussion of letting it share
>the pagefile?  We are not expecting to ever look at a dump, so it is
>a matter of maximizing disk space.  How does one change its location?

If you're never going to use it, then why even create it? Just run
SYS$UPDATE:SWAPFILES.COM and ask for a zero-page dump file, then after
the next reboot purge the old dump file (don't purge it before rebooting).
And set SYSDUMP to 0 in MODPARAMS.DAT so that AUTOGEN doesn't create
one for you.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jblaine@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (Jeff Blaine)
Subject: Re: Text to postscript converter?
Followup-To:  poster
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: jblaine@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University
Distribution:  world
Date: 12 SEP 92 18:33:37    

In article <F7BF498ECFFF402665@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU>, MRL@PFC.MIT.EDU (MARK LONDON) writes...
>Let me clarify my earlier request.  I don't want to use CONVERT.  I want
>a program with a more user friendly interface.  I once saw something called
>T2PS, but I can't find it now.  Thanks.
> 
>Mark

Search archie for text2ps.c

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: robc@crash.cts.com (Robert Cowan)
Subject: Looking for MACRO/VAXC example to grab the PSL
Date: 13 Sep 92 01:14:09 GMT
Keywords: VAXC,MACRO,VMS


   Does anybody have an example of grabbing the VAX processor status longword
and testing its flags from C (MACRO would be great also)?  If so, could you
please mail or post it for me?
   I would like to grab and test the T-bit to detect if trace is on within a
program.

Thanks in advance,
Robert (robc@cyber.net || robc@crash.cts.com)
From: hornlo@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU (Larry Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Looking for EVE procedure to Add sigs
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:19:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>> ... [ EVE procedure to add "quoted text" markers ] ...

This will prefix each line of the current buffer with the character(s)
of your choice.  It preserves your current position when you call it,
so it can be applied at any time.  Just press [DO], enter "COMM".

Since I've been using it, I've decided that that actually is somewhat
inconvenient, but I've not got around to changing it.  That, and making it
work on a select range, are left as exercises for the reader.

- ---------------------------------- signed:  9-SEP-1992 22:17 C*T (USA) --- -
    Larry Horn / Millsaps College / Jackson, MS / hornlo@okra.millsaps.edu
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procedure EVE_comments

! Last edit: 25-JUN-1992 09:09:23.69

	!---------------------------------------------------------------------
	!
	! This procedure inserts the <prompted-for> text at the
	! beginning of each line of the current buffer.
	!
	! If you would prefer that it not prompt for the marker,
	! just delete (or comment out) the LOOP - END LOOP section
	! that prompts for the comment marker
	!
	! [...]
	!
	!---------------------------------------------------------------------

	local
		saved_pos,
		test_pos,
		saved_timer,
		saved_timed_message,
		flag,
		comment_string,
		line_count,
		total_lines;

	on_error
		[OTHERWISE] :
			message(Error_Text);
	endon_error;


	saved_pos := mark(none);
	saved_timer := get_info(system,"timer");
	saved_timed_message := get_info(system,"timed_message");

	position(beginning_of(current_buffer));
	set(timer,on,"[commenting]");
	line_count := 0;

! *** edit the following line to put in your favorite comment marker
! *** this will be overridden by the prompt below

	comment_string := ">> ";


! *** comment out or delete this LOOP/ENDLOOP section if you don't
! *** want to be prompted for the marker at all

	flag := 0;
	loop
		exitif flag;
		flag := eve$prompt_string("", comment_string, "Comment marker: ", "Please enter a comment marker string" );
	endloop;

! *** end prompting section


	loop
		position( line_begin );
		test_pos := mark( none );
		exitif test_pos =  end_of( current_buffer );
		line_count := line_count + 1;
		copy_text( comment_string );
		move_vertical( 1 );
	endloop;

	total_lines := get_info(current_buffer,"record_count");
	message( fao("Commented !ZL of !ZL line!%S", line_count, total_lines) );

	if saved_timer then
		set(timer, ON, saved_timed_message);
	else
		set(timer, OFF, saved_timed_message);
	endif;

	position(saved_pos);

endprocedure;
From: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VAX Operations Manual info
Keywords: UULite
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:26:45 GMT
Reply-To: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu ()
Organization: "Silicon Surfers, Inc."

,  9 09:26:45 19929209:26:45 1992ESTLines: 34


In article <6SEP199208502631@erich.triumf.ca>, music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH) writes:
>In article <FE1F387C433FC10E2A@sb.hhs.dk>, ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj) writes...
>> 
>>Why not post a plain ascii version of the text ?
>> 
>>The procedure described above is a little to heavy, if you only want
>>to read the text to see, if it is relevant at your site.
>> 
>>Do other feel the same way ?
>
>   I agree with Arne.  I imagine that others DO feel this way, too, since
> I have never heard of UULite (etc.) and I don't know the ftp address
> of the source suggested.  I suppose I could search through listings
> to find it, but why bother if we can get the source ascii posted
> without control characters?   However, if there are little drawings
> in the WORD original, then we are in a little trouble if we expect
> to get it in plain ascii.

Flame on simmer:

Aa wah, ah wah, ah wah.

Gee, I guess the author forgot that you two wanted his school to pay him to provide this manual in every format known to man. Give the guy a break, he was just trying to spread the wealth. (Anyone who thought those directions were involved just hasn't used a net-connected mac much. I thought it was a piece of cake.) I appreciate his effort.

Flame off.

A, still pretty useful, ascii copy can be found at the end of a very slow link in [anonymous] at lucy.merrimack.edu

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From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Master Index
Date: 5 Sep 92 11:06:36 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

In article <9209030913.AA16490@mailgate.roche.com>, dorand@rocbi.DNET.roche.com ("Daniel M. Doran, PRTC, phone 88270") writes:
> 
>        Could anyone please tell me where in all of Bookreader's shelves
>        and books I can file the Master Index?  
> 
>        Thanks in advance.
> 
>        Dan.
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> 

You can't because it's not there.  None of the "master" indeces are.  As I
understand it DOCUMENT/BOOKREADER can't deal with index references that are
outside the current book.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: page file name not available
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:43:00 GMT

In article <FB257E096E7FC126B1@sb.hhs.dk>, ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj) writes...
>A little experimentation has convinced my that SHOW MEM will always show
>filename for primary pagefile and swapfile but only show filename for
>secondary pagefiles, if you have read access to the file !?!?

$ SHOW MEM 'knows' if a swap/pagefile is the primary swap/pagefile or
not.  If it is the primary file it can come up with a valid name for it since
it knows where VMS will look for it.  If it's not, it only has a FID.
It will try to translate this into a filename but if the running process
does not have read access to the pagefile (it shouldn't for unprivileged
users, else you have a security hole) it can't translate this into a name
so you get the 'file name not available' message.  Same as $ show dev/fi <disk>
will show error messages instead of filenames if you don't have read access to
those files.

-Mike
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: page file name not available
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:05:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Todd Wipke, wipke@secs.ucsc.edu, writes:

>What causes subject msg to appear in "show mem"?  Most nodes show the
>name of the device and file, but a couple nodes do not for page and swap.

If the user executing the SHOW MEMORY command doesn't have READ access to
the pagefile, the message will be displayed indicating the page filename isn't
available.

I've set the pagefiles on my system to allow WORLD:READ, because issuing SHOW 
MEMORY when the pagefile name was protected against read also caused a 
security alarm.  I don't find a major security or system integrity problem 
with allowing the pagefile to be WORLD:READ, but this may be a concern at your
site.

-Dan Wing, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU or WING_D@UCOLMCC.BITNET (DGW11)
 Systems Programmer, University Hospital, Denver
From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Motif cut/paste or accelerators with mouse buttons?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:09:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In article <00960203.5E53B520.8140@ifn.ing.tu-bs.de> you write:
#
#Good old VWS had a nice feature: Select a text range with mouse button2
#and the text will be stored somewhere as long as you don't select
#another text. It may be retrieved by pressing MB3 in any window, no matter
#if the original text is still on the screen or not.
#

This is the original "Clipboard model" as supported by early versions of 
X10/X11.

#
#Now DECwindows/Motif: Select a text range (here it's MB1) simply selects
#it. Nothing more. By double-clicking MB2 it may be "copied" to other
#windows or the same window. But if the text in the selected space changes
#the changed text is copied. Also the select range is deleted if certain
#keys are pressed, even if the up/down keys are pressed. That's annoying.
#

This is known as the "Quick Copy" method.

#
#In applications which support an "Edit" Menu with Copy/Paste pushbuttons you
#can copy the selected text range into some storage (Clipboard?). That's
#functional equivalent to VWS. By using the Paste pushbutton the stored
#text may be retrieved at any time no matter what happens on the screen.
#
#What I really want to have, is the Copy and Paste functions connected
#to the mouse buttons. We are talking about DECterm here. I tried to
#setup an accelerator key for Copy/Paste and this works. But it seems
#you cannot specify a mouse botton here! I tried decw$clock also - does not
#work either. Is it really impossible ?
#

Well you can specify mouse buttons as action but not accelerators (their not
the same thing).  What you want to do is change the translation resources
for different applications an bind the Copy/Paste actions to the requested
mouse buttons.  See Asente and Swick for an indepth look at this subject.

#
#Another way might be to specify the binding of the mouse buttons in the
#UIL file. I don't know if this is possible but in any case you don't 
#have DECW$TERMINAL.UIL. Have anyone seen it?
#

Digital hasn't (and probably will never) release the UIL files associated
with their applications.  This is mainly to keep the average user from changing
certain resources that Digital would like to keep unchanged.  Instead, you
should use the Resourc files to change the behavior of the application.  Since,
starting with DECwindows/Motif, Digital is only putting the text (for labels, etc)
inside of the UIL files.

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