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From: copley-devon@cs.yale.edu (Devon Copley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Problems w/K2000 sequencer
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:30:05 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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Keywords: Kurzweil, K2000

I've been trying to dump my PC MIDI sequences out to my K2000 and I've been
surprised by running into a lot of trouble.  I'm using Voyetra Sequencer Plus
Pro Gold.  I tried first exporting files in Standard Midi File Type 0 format.
The Kurzweil recognizes the file when I put the floppy in, and seems to load
it, but I get mangled garbage when I try to play it.  When I try to load
from the disk back into the PC, SPPG tells me "Some data is mangled.  Load
anyway?"  When I reply yes, it loads, and everything works okay.

So then I tried just recording the sequence from the MIDI OUT of my
computer into the MIDI IN of the Kurz.  No luck.  I followed the
directions in the manual precisely and I couldn't even get it to start
recording on the first clock pulse from the sequencer.  I had to manually
start recording and even when I did, nothing came through.

What's going on?  I've got the 1.00 ROMs.  Is this a bug from the early
revisions?

Thanks...
Devon

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:36:47 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1993Jan20.221950.27704@news.media.mit.edu>
                                  mbl@media.mit.edu (Marc LoCascio) writes:

>                                                  i suspect that it will be a
>*very* cool box for the price, though.

For that reason, despite the horrors, angst, and nausea expressed in this
forum concerning it, I suspect that it will be a success in the marketplace.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: af522@yfn.ysu.edu (Bill Scott)
Subject: Re: k2000 rom samples midi-dump?
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:45:19 GMT


regarding the following from me, then Scott Fahlman:
"Although you can not directly dump K2000 ROM, there will be a basic
    resampling function in the K2000 sampler that will allow a single sample
    to be moved to RAM for editing. Once it is in RAM, I believe it will
    be accessible for dumping.

I wouldn't count on this.  Guess we'll have to wait and see what the final
2.0 software allows. "

I don't think that mentioning upcoming features breaks any non'disclosure
agreements, Scott.  You can't count on anything, really, but a one shot
resampler of sample data only would be nice wouldn't it?bill scott
wscott@acs.wooster.edu
From: tarabbia@cenatls.cena.dgac.fr (Patrice Tarabbia)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Suggestions
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:56:15 GMT
Organization: Centre d'Etudes de la Navigation Aerienne
Originator: tarabbia@ixilu


Hello World !

I believe that most musicians have developed their own practice schedule, designed to 
improve one's technical, theorical, melodic, ..., skills. The purpose is to practice
more than one thing at a time (refer to Mark Levine "Jazz Piano Book" for more): For
instance you learn a new lick while practicing left-hand voicings in all twelve keys...

I think it could be very interesting to distribute such practice tips over the net. 
In addition this could also help to build a licks database. 

Anybody interested ? Please Email or post. 

Patrice.
From: chuckies@cs.mcgill.ca (Charles J Savoie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: CZ101 Thanks, Juno-106 Buy, Question
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:02:01 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1993Jan25.153635.11468@rtsg.mot.com> young_dick@macmail2.rtsg.mot.com (Dick Young) writes:

>Any real "killer [Juno 106] patches" anyone has programmed up and
>would care to clue me into ?

I have given 128 patches along with my Juno 106 patch librarian for the
Atari ST.  If you don't have an Atari, but can do some simple file
manipulation and MIDI programming on your machine, I can send a description
of the file format I use (mail me).

The patch librarian is at the ftp site: atari.archive.umich.edu
It is: /atari/Music/juno106.zoo

The relevant file to extract is /PATCHES/CHUCK.106

The program is shareware, the patches with it are free (but donations are
very welcome!).

Charles

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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Sysex Problems ---please help
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:14:24 GMT
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands

nordstro@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Christian Nordstroem) writes:

>hello

>i have (maybe a quite common) problem. I use Cakewalk Professional
>with Windows 3.1, and sounblaster Pro2.0
>I am able to send banks with programms or combinations to my korg
>M1, but i can't receive from it. 

If you send an "All Program Dump Request" to the M1 (F0 42 3x 19 1C 00 F7 --
all in Hex and 'x' being the Global Channel), the M1 should send all
100 programs to your PC.  Use a midi-monitor to see if any data actually
arrives.  If not, there probably is a problem with your system-config (but
don't ask me, since I know nothing about PCs and plan to keep it that way :).


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From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: New All-In-One from Kurzweil
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 18:39:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

I've heard tell of a new "little brother" to the K2000 with a
similiar feature set plus a 16-track sequencer, but less
expandability that its elder sibling.

Any further details?  It sounds like it'd be a great "first
keyboard" for people looking for something cheaper than the K2000
with a more complete "workstation" feel.

Similarly, Kurzweil was claiming that the K2000 sampling option
was to ship 1 week after the NAMM show.  Any confirmations?
Anybody actually got one of the damned things?  Keyboard
mentioned that there are some new DSP algorithms geared towards
rap / funk etc.  I wouldn't expect Keyboard to know what a DSP
algorithm was good for if it drove them off the road, what are
the new algorithms?

Blake Stone
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: pehe@electrum.kth.se (Peder Hedlund)
Subject: Re: E-Mu vintage keys Proteus module
Organization: Divided Misprinted Dwarf-Nebulas Inc.
	<PEHE.93Jan19143438@galliumx.electrum.kth.se>
	<1juupoINNhff@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:02:39 GMT

In article <1juupoINNhff@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:

>>                An alternative would be to force the companies to include
>>a heck of a lot of more oscilators in the first place. As far as I'm concerned
>>you can never have to many of 'em.

>   I certainly agree that greater polyphony is always better, but just how do you
>   propose to force manufacturers to include more oscillators?  Remember that

Perhaps by kidnapping the cheif engineers kids or have a beautiful russian agent
seducing him while we're taking pictures of them and threatening to send them to
his wife. 

>   One must always consider the economics of the situation, unless one does live
>   in wonderland.

  Me gives no shit about their economics. I want an inexpencive fabulous synth
with 64 voices and 256 oscillators. Period.
  Besides, what's wrong with living in Wonderland ? We always have sunshine, 
we all are filthy rich, no one's starving, there are no wars, no hole in
the ozone layer and no green-house-effect. In fact; everything here is just
grooooovy (Hey ! Where'd I put my reefer ?), though we suffer from a lack of
oscillators in our synthezisers.

(Speaking lots of oscillators; wonder why the Kurzwile (how do you spell the
damn thing ?) staff limited the K2000 voice polyphony to 24 when they had 94
oscillators to fiddle around with ?)

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                Of cause I won't kidnap any engineers children ...maybe...
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: gaubfb@sun330 (Brian Bishop)
Subject: Re: MusicBox - A new dimension in composition
Organization: Fannie Mae
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:08:20 GMT

furio ercolessi (furio@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: In article <C186pD.1nv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jl52800@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Incredible Mr.Wong)
: writes:
: |>Could someone please give a FTP site where I can get a hold of this program?
: |>Thanks.
: |>
: |>Mr.Wong
: 
: archie reports two sites, one in US and one in Europe:
: 
: Host reseq.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
: 
:     Location: /informatik.public/comp/usenet/comp.binaries.ibm.pc
:       DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Nov  1 19:59  musicbox
: 
: Host wuarchive.wustl.edu
: 
:     Location: /usenet/comp.binaries.ibm.pc/volume01
:       DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jun 25 00:00  musicbox
: 

   The wuarchive version is source-only and incomplete to boot! The reseq...
version is source + executable and appears to be complete. The user manual
is surprisingly good (75+ pages). It's a really fascinating piece of work,
an attempt to make a sequencer that works like a modular synth. There are
all kinds of little modules that you can interconnect (clocks, AND/OR/XOR,
chords, progressions). Some of them can output MIDI notes as a result of
your 'machinations'. There are also memory banks to store preset sequences.

 I'm trying to decide if it's worth buying an MPU just to try it,
since it doesn't look like it'll work with my MIDIATOR :-( 
(It's hard-coded for an MPU and a microsoft mouse)


  It looks really neat though - it even has modules for controller messages..


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: ruprecht@informatik.uni-freiburg.de (Nick Ruprecht)
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:39:06 GMT

cubase@cs.tut.fi (Pekka Martikainen) writes:
>In article <1jocvrINNncm@hp4at.eunet.co.at> wang@eunet.co.at (Wang) writes:

>> For example the VCOs of a JP-8 have never the same beating in a patch 
>In fact, JP-8 has DCOs, not VCOs. That's why it sounds more stable.

The JP-8 does have VCOs, and "stable" is a very misleading description of
their behavior, particularly in winter! B^)
It also doesn't have MIDI.

You're probably confusing the JP-8 (also known as Jupiter 8) with the JX-8P.

Nick

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Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Freiburg
From: sytang@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Shoou-yu tang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: What's a MicroMoog?
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:18:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Jan26.221828.52846
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.synth
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


 What's the spec. for an old MicroMoog? Any MIDI modification availible?
 Thanks
 Tang
 sytang@lamar.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton)
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:15:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.180030.1902@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>In article <103@bbx.basis.com>, scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>|> In article <CUBASE.93Jan20221416@kaarne.cs.tut.fi> cubase@cs.tut.fi (Pekka Martikainen) writes:
>|> >In article <1993Jan20.181314.326@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton) writes:
>|> >
>|> >> My partner has been most unhappy with the "string" pads she
>|> >> and I have been getting our of our synths (Yamahas).  Just
>|> >> yesterday I got the MIDI interface for my Chroma, and put
>|> >> analog synth strings into one of her pieces.  She just about
>|> >> peed her pants...
>|> >
>|> >Yamaha's FM synths are maybe the worst source of pads (after monophonic
>|> >synths). I have tried and tried and .... 
>|> 
>|> Agreed.  Yamaha's FM can produce some amazing textures but for some strange 
>|> reason it can't crank out a silky string pad in the traditional sense.
>
>Actually Yamaha's FM can do decent strings with a litle help.

Clearly, I was not clear enough in my post.  I use a Yamaha TG55
and Paula has a V50.  Why the string pads sound so--mushy?  thin?
yucky?--I can't say, but the Chroma sounds great!

Dennis Pelton   |  There's a hole in the ozone, dear Liza, dear Liza
nyx.cs.du.edu   |  There's a hole in the ozone, dear Liza
                |  A hole
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From: billy@irvine.com (*** Bouncer **)
Subject: Re: Winter NAMM 1983
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:39:37 GMT

> Ah........ anyone else remember how many MIDI bytes can be transmitted
> per second ........ ?

At 31.25K baud, (31250 / 8 bits), yields ~3906 MIDI bytes per second.
But I'd hate to have to quantize a maximum data stream like that to
half-notes notes at 120 beats per minute.  BTW, you can send just over
1300 note-on/off commands (assuming you weren't sending any other status
bytes, etc) per second as well.
-- billy@irvine.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins)
Subject: Re: Winter NAMM 1983
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:19:08 GMT

In article <7807.9301271605@csparc12.scs.leeds.ac.uk> ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk writes:
>Steven writes:
>>In article <9301251825.aa10817@gate.demon.co.uk> cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:
>>>>> Alesis showed off their new Synthesizer and Mixer unit.
>>>>> The synthesizer has 64 note polyphony, an industry first.
>>>
>>>Actually, I believe, an industry second. (TG100 is there already.)
>					    ^^^^^
>>Could still be an industry 1st 64 note polyphonic.  The Yammy TG module
>>is 2 32 note polys not a full 64 note.  Sort of like the supposedly 32
>
>Hey! What's happened to all the flaming in this newsgroup? OK, I'll do it:
>

BBBBZZZZZZZTTTTTTT!!  Too late, I've already flamed myself about 40
messages ago.  I get the car!

Steven



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From: nordstro@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Christian Nordstroem)
Subject: Sysex Problems ---please help
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:23:15 GMT

hello

i have (maybe a quite common) problem. I use Cakewalk Professional
with Windows 3.1, and sounblaster Pro2.0
I am able to send banks with programms or combinations to my korg
M1, but i can't receive from it. I tried already also the manual way
with the first entry in the sysex-list. Is there a problem with the
Midisetup ? or how can i then save my current programm-bank to be
able to load new banks? *sigh*
(There are so many good sounds i'd like to save)....


please help me-
Ringo

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From: bing@Apple.COM (Christopher R. Bingham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Analog question
Keywords: Analog, SIEL
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:49:17 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1jkhstINNcgc@network.ucsd.edu> mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
>I've an old SIEL DK600 in slight disrepair in the corner.  I managed to
>get schematics for it (a challenge right there...thanks Gene Pikus!), but
>haven't dove in to fix it yet.
>OK, I admit it; I shorted out the power supply, kerbloomph.
>Anyway, is what I've got a valuable analog beast?  I got it for a song
[...]

Wow.  Someone else has one of these.
I've had one for about 7 years now.  It tends to be a little flaky (gee,
really?!) and actually stopped working completely for a while once (it 
resisted my attempts to diagnose the problem and eventually started working
again).  I personally love it.  It has a very distinctive analog sound (the
filters sound very different from my Roland analog stuff), has a velocity-
sensitive keyboard (with four sensitivity settings), has MIDI (note on 
w/velocity, note off, that's about it), and can even split the keyboard so
that notes below the split point are sent through MIDI but not sounded 
locally, and vice-versa for notes above the split point.  (Ooh - master 
controller features! In 1984!)  I also have the full schematics, which 
apparently came with it (don't get that these days, do you?).  My main gripe
is that it's pretty heavy (large, metal case).  Siel made an expander version
of the DK600 (non-rackmount -- like the Oberheim Xpander), but I doubt I'll
EVER see one of those...
 
>Is it worth the hassle to fix it up?

I don't know about that -- depends on how handy you are with a soldering
iron.  If it's going to be a huge ordeal, save up for a Prophet-5.  But
if you can fix it up, and like the sound it had before it died, go for it!
 
>(Most shops laugh at the idea of a SIEL)

Yup.  Siel (or SIEL: it's an acronym) was an Italian company that didn't
exactly strike it rich in the US.  Eventually Roland or somebody bought
them out and liquidated their remaining stock of instruments, and that was
it.  Unfortunately they're better known for a really crummy line of plastic
quasi-analog stuff that came out in '86 or so... I seem to remember a goofy
ad campaign in _Keyboard_ at the time.

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From: daver@sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu (David Ray)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Wanted: U220 editor/librarian, MAX patch preferred
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:37:46 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu

I'm looking for anything that I can use on the Macintosh for
changing settings on my Roland U220. I use Opcode's MAX program, 
but other programs will suffice. I would prefer freeware/public
domain stuff since I have a tight budget. Opcode sells a product
called Galaxy for $200 that is an editor/librarian for many different
synths; I only need it for the U220 and I know how to send/recieve 
system exclusives, so a much simpler (and cheaper) program) would
be preferable. (I could write a MAX patch for this given enough time,
but I want to see what's out there first.) I have some interesting
MAX patches of my own that I could trade.

Thanks,

Dave
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From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Analog Multi timbral
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:29:32 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1993Jan22.172527.1842@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
*
*Cheetah in the UK makes an analog rack module that is multi timbral.
*Cheetah products are now being distributed in the US judging from recent
*ads I have seen in Keyboard but I haven't seen any in Canada.
*
*Can anyone in the UK comment on multitimbral analog boxes in Europe ?

Oddly enough Cheetah hardly had any synths at NAMM.  All they were pushing
were their master keyboards and disk recording rigs.  I was looking forward
to checking out the 24 oscillator monster that supposedly was shown at the
Musik Messe.

-- archer
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:00:30 GMT

In article <103@bbx.basis.com>, scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
|> In article <CUBASE.93Jan20221416@kaarne.cs.tut.fi> cubase@cs.tut.fi (Pekka Martikainen) writes:
|> >In article <1993Jan20.181314.326@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton) writes:
|> >
|> >> My partner has been most unhappy with the "string" pads she
|> >> and I have been getting our of our synths (Yamahas).  Just
|> >> yesterday I got the MIDI interface for my Chroma, and put
|> >> analog synth strings into one of her pieces.  She just about
|> >> peed her pants...
|> >
|> >Yamaha's FM synths are maybe the worst source of pads (after monophonic
|> >synths). I have tried and tried and .... 
|> 
|> Agreed.  Yamaha's FM can produce some amazing textures but for some strange 
|> reason it can't crank out a silky string pad in the traditional sense.

Actually Yamaha's FM can do decent strings with a litle help.
Most of the analog keyboards that had great string sounds used
chorusing to help out: JX8P, DW8000, etc.. I got some fairly decent
string patches (not the factory stuff) and then ran them through
an analog chorus unit (one of the BOSS footpedal jobs) and it
does an amazing job of thickening the sound.

A friend found that running a TX81z through a BOSS Dimension 'C'
adds a lot to the sound. 

Before I get flamed about this, I should state that analog strings
still beat FM strings but you can come close by getting a good patch
and using some sort of chorusing on it. A relatively cheap way to
get some 'new and improved' patches out of an FM synth.
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