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From: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Subject: Re: OLYMPICS IN MALAYSIA ????
Reply-To: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 08:27:00 GMT


In a previous article, rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) says:

>In article <ll9mb5k2@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, espca@warwick.ac.uk (Kenny Lee ) writes:
>
>> WHEN WILL IT BE FOR MALAYSIA  ?.
>
>YOu have got the Commonwealth Games, so dont expect to be in Olympic contention
>until 2016...
>
>Anyway, you'll probably do a "Montreal" on everyone.
>				^^^^^^^

>Malaysia has a sad Olympic record -- 18 million people and zero medals.
>It is quite sad, as Malaysia should have one a medal by now!
>
>Rod
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From: eric@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Eric Majani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Good Psychology Dept. in Montreal
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:09:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL

A friend of mine would like to know which are the universities in Montreal
which have a good Psychology Department, with courses in English. Thanks.

Une amie a moi aimerait savoir quels sont les universites a Montreal qui ont
un bon departement de psychologie, et dont les cours seraient en anglais. Merci.

-Eric Majani
Organization: Senior, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.indian
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:44:12 -0400 
From: Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy
	<1992Jul22.231228.14844@reed.edu>

The Phoenix writes:
***************************
 
This whole discussion is flawed, because American colleges use financial
status as the only criteria for financial aid, since most students from
India have meagre assets(when converted into foreign currency) they tend
to get huge grants. Sounds fair to me.
**********************



The use of financial aid for needy students is only meant for American
citizens. Why should they be charitable to foreign citizens? I am not
just talking about Indians. I am talking about Chinese, Italians, etc.
Also, in an earlier part of the discussion, I mentioned that  loans
could be defaulted by a student if he doesn't choose to get a green
card.  So loans are not such a bad thing and they won't force a student
to stay in the U.S in order to pay back his loans. 

I am not saying all this just to start a flame war. (In fact I don't
read this bboard frequently; maybe once a week). I am serious about this
issue.
From: buckland@ucs.ubc.ca (Tony Buckland)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Canadian Citizenship
Keywords: Citizenship
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:43:12 GMT
Organization: University of B.C. Computing Services


 The first statement in your posting, "I was born in Hamilton, ...",
 makes you a Canadian citizen.  You just have to present proof
 of birth to have your citizenship formally recognized.
From: "stephanie fysh" <stephanie.fysh@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: interesting facts abo
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:37:06 EST
Reply-To: "stephanie fysh" <stephanie.fysh@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

[most stuff deleted]

EL>>Interesting bicycle facts, courtesy of the Ontario Ministry of
EL>>Transportation (distributed with the revised bicycle policy issued July
EL>>23, 1992)

EL>>Studies indicate that bicycle helmets can reduce cycle related fatalities
EL>>by 75% and head injuries by 85%.

EL>A little knowledge of the rules of the HTA, required as a requisite for
EL>driving bicycles on major roads, wouldn't hurt either.

However, 2/3 of bicycle accidents are caused by cars.

Personally, I'm pleased to see the bike helmet legislation, and I'd be
even more pleased to see a licensing system and proper education for
cyclists.  But just because some cyclists do stupid things *now* doesn't
mean that cycling -- and better cycling -- shouldn't be encouraged, and
that car drivers shouldn't also be educated about bicycles.

- Stephanie
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general
From: charters@madhaus.utcs.utoronto.ca (Jim Charters)
Subject: Re: $53.75 (was: TTC POP fines (was Railway police in Canada (was NYC's Transit Police)))
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:55:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.224734.24534@teleride.on.ca> stevew@teleride.on.ca (Stephen M. Webb) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.185741.12064@sq.sq.com> msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>>> This raises a question I've always wondered about:  Why $53.75?  Why not
>>> an even $50 (or $55, or $60)?  If it were $53.50, I'd suspect they were
>>> charging $50+GST (1/2:-), but $53.75 is just plain weird.  Is it possibly
>>> an inflation-indexed value from some past year's base amount?  Anyone know?
>>
>>Once upon a time some years back, the province decided that in view of
>>inflation it would be a good idea to raise all fines by 6.5%, this
>>presumably being that year's inflation rate.  But apparently they did
>>it by means of a one-time act rather than an automatic indexing provision
>>such as is used for income tax.  I've never understood why.
>
>I understood the bizarre amounts for fines to be a result of the addition
>of court costs (sorta the civilized way of charging the victim for the bullets
>used to kill him with).

Don't laugh.  That's _exactly_ what is done in Red China.  The family
of the executed felon is presented with a bill for the bullet used for
his/her execution......


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Toronto / Ont. / CANADA / M5S 3B1 / charters@quartz.geology.utoronto.ca
From: irwin@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Irwin David)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Linguistic Intolerance
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:10:10 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Jul25.032811.29612@u.washington.edu> macuser@milton.u.washington.edu (Hung Le) writes:
>as Charles said awhile back,
>
>"Vive le Quebec, Vive le Quebec libre!"
>
>(just kidding.......)
>
>I would prefer Quebec stay in the confederation,
>since if it broke away, then what happens
>to minority francophones in the remaining
>9 English provinces? They cuould be screwed
>good.... :(

Aren't they already?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: gill@physics.ubc.ca (Arnold Gill)
Subject: Re: Our steriod buddy Ben Johnson
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:39:35 GMT

ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:

>Is Ben Johnson running in the Olympics this year?

     Yes, he is the lead leg for the 4x100 relay.  He didn't qualify for the
     100, I believe.

>Ya know, if he bulks up enough he could have a job with the New York
>Rangers.  Tie Domi, a type II free agent, is considering signing with
>Tampa Bay.  What would Neilson do without his goons?  I hear to be a
>goon in the NHL no skating experience is needed.  (-:

     I guess I don't see the Rangers very often, but I don't remember any 
     goons on that team.  The Rangers are quite slick and fast.

--
Arnold Gill --- astrophysician trainee in exile             gill@physics.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Subject: Our steriod buddy Ben Johnson
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:54:20 GMT


Is Ben Johnson running in the Olympics this year?

Ya know, if he bulks up enough he could have a job with the New York
Rangers.  Tie Domi, a type II free agent, is considering signing with
Tampa Bay.  What would Neilson do without his goons?  I hear to be a
goon in the NHL no skating experience is needed.  (-:
-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
Pro-Choice/Pro-Clinton/Gore '92
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general
From: pete@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Hickey)
Subject: Re: The visas arrived today! (Rich Wales)
Organization: Computing & Comm. Services, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:20:08 GMT

In article <92Jul29.030904.35414@acs.ucalgary.ca> bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
>
>When you present them at the border, the immigration officer signs the
>form and staples one copy (the one entitled 'record of landing')
>in your passport.  You will need
        ........ stuff deleted.....
>
>I thought also that you were supposed to bring it with you when
>coming back to Canada from abroad (I always carry mine with my passport).
>You will need to enclose a copy when applying for a Returning Resident
>Permit.
>
>(I don't know what would happen it one looses it.)
>

I can tell you...  At least when travelling (driving) between the U.S and
Canada....  At least *my* experiencees there.

I lost mine (along with my expired U.S. passeport) years ago.
One time (out of maybe 50) I was asked, "Do you have your papers?"
I said, "What?"  They brought me and my son into a room and made
me wait while they "checked the computers".  After a half hour delay,
I was on my way with a warning to get it replaced.

Maybe travelling by bus/plane/boat/notyourowncar, it's different.
Maybe other places than the U./S. ist different.  I suspect so.


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From: 01camera@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Odd sighting in Halifax
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:37:19 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

At approximately 12:00 a.m. AST (29 July) a fiery tailed object flew by
the north of Halifax. I had followed it for about five seconds before it
left my line of sight. The tail was about a hundred foot long flame with
two large chunks of matter engulfed in flames as the head. Has anyone else
in the Atlntic region (or elsewhere) seen this rather unique phenomenon?
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:37:00 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.canada
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <4775@sumax.seattleu.edu>, harrity@sumax.seattleu.edu 
(Elan Morin Tedronai) writes...(in response to Arindam Ghosh's posting)
>....... (stuff deleted) ......
>Listen, I don't think we should close the door on foreign students.
>Everyone would be poorer for that.
>Daniel John Kelly-Harrity 

The point is that Arindam Ghosh is whining for nothing. The attitudes of U.S
and Canada towards foreign countries coming from 3rd World countries are 
entirely different. Canada gives a hard-time to foreign students, by making all
students pay out of a RA or TA ship the full cost of tution. For example if a
student is paid $10,000 per annum, then at Concordia U. (Montreal), he must pay
$48,00 per annum if he is in the Ph.D program. Many schools charge interest of
am minimum of 1% per month on the unpaid balance. There is a differential fee
                                                  ===========================
system in Canada. For example a foreign student pays (as of Sept. 1992) $215
================
per credit, while, a Canadian student (premanent resident/ landed immigrant)
pays $15 per credit in Quebec. The situation of differential fee exists in the
provinces of Ontario and in the eastern regions - like U. of New Brunswick at
Fredriction, New Brunswick. However, since higher education/ research is made
a provincial matter, every province charges according to the government's own
whimsical notions, and, policies. It is NOT like U.S, where, if you get a TA
or RA, tution waiver or  at least in-state tution fee is allowed. The cost of
medical insurance is low i.e $365.0 - and the employer must pay. To pay the
exorbitant amount of debt that a graduate student accrues over the years via
interest buisness is enormous. IMHO, this differential fee system is extremely
inconvenient and is racist. However, being 3rd class citizens, international
graduate students have really a hard time paying the enormous money. On top
of this, the cost of living in Canada is higher (as far as food is concerned)
than U.S. (GST introduced by Canada makes life extremely difficult for foreign
students after all calculations.) In Western Provinces, due to provincial
government attitudes, the differential fee is absent. (What I know !). Thus,
coming back to the intake of foreign students, I am of the opinion that the
Canadian Universities are basically not to be considered as the 1st choice. I
made a mistake 5 years ago, and, I am paying dearly for it. 

- deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Radio Program "As it Happens" Question
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:08:46 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Jul23.235607.16626@cs.sfu.ca>, jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews) writes:
>      Actually, I find that Alan Maitland and Michael Enright
> seem to be on together only about half of the year!  The other
> half, one or the other is on holidays or special assignments or
> something, and they have a stream of alternate announcers and
> interviewers replacing them.  Expect both to be back for Sept.
> 
>      By the way, what do American listeners of "As It Happens"
> think of their coverage of Canadian and American issues?

	I listen to it a few times a week, the public radio station up the line 
runs it Mon-Friday, and I find it really enlightening to hear what others think
of our country and how they view it. It's also interesting to see what others
feel is important. It's also fun to hear the problems of other countries, makes
me feel like we're not so bad off after all sometimes.
	
	I like Alan and Michael the best, but there are a few women who have
been on that sound really good with either Alan or Michael, or each other. I
don't like the new English guy.
  
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Dave D. Cawley		   |	Where a social revolution is pending and,
University Of Scranton	   |	for whatever reason, is not accomplished,
ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu	   |	reaction is the alternative.
ddc1@SCRANTON		   |				-Daniel De Leon
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.indian
From: chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:18:31 GMT

In article <4775@sumax.seattleu.edu> harrity@sumax.seattleu.edu (Elan Morin Tedronai) writes:
>
>Listen, I don't think we should close the door on foreign students.
>Everyone would be poorer for that. But put yourself in the position
>of a Canadian or US student graduating with loans in excess of 
>30,000 to pay off, and then ask yourself if you'd not be just a
>trifle curious as to why it is seen fit to subsidize foreign students.

What's this subsidy business? No one is being subsidized. Especially the
silly myth that it is the foreign students who are being subsidized
at the cost of American students. You're failing to draw a distinction between
a graduate student and an undergraduate. The graduate student (foreign or
domestic), is being paid to perform certain duties which he/she already
has adequate training for. You may view this as subsidy, but I see it as
a mutually beneficial arrangement to both parties concerned.

What do you propose should be done about the classes grad students TA,
or the funded research they work on which is not a part of their degree
requirements? Make them work for free? Give them a loan instead of a
paycheck for their work? Sheesh!

Subsidy indeed. Now, if you can show that foreign undergraduates are getting
handouts which domestic students aren't, you might have a point.

-h
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
Subject: Sante'
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:44:48 GMT

    
Hi. I got a postcard from Montreal which had "Sante'" in the 
closing (e.g. where it usually says sincerely in English).
   
Can someone tell me what Sante' means?
   
Merci.


Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:5169 can.general:3332
From: thood@corvus.matrox.com (Thomas Hood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general
Subject: Re: French/English status after independence
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:48:10 GMT
Organization: Matrox Ltd.

evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>[T]he repression of my language and culture in the place of my birth
>have been institutionalized in a way the Anglos did not do to the
>French. At least in my lifetime.

Nationalists say that they had to use government institutions to
fight English control of economic institutions.

Please forgive the oversimplifications ...

The English see Parliament and the Law as sacred institutions
and Corporations as profane and amoral.  Hence Bill 101 passed
by the National Assembly is worse than the de-facto unilingualism
imposed by English businessmen.

The French regard them all as players in a power game.  The
game (which most anglos didn't realize they were playing) is
recounted in nationalist literature, featuring the anglo bully
and the innocent Quebecois weakling.

>>This is one target of language laws : to
>>clear the complex we may have had
>The province has broken its own laws (Quebec Charter of Rights), and now
>you're pleading insanity. How convenient.

Not insanity: insecurity!  Insecurity is a valid justification
in a society that values the mythical over the factual, the
emotional over the logical.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general
From: Brad.Hedstrom@engr.UVic.CA (Brad  Hedstrom)
Subject: Re: The visas arrived today! (Rich Wales)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:37:25 GMT

Just out of curiosity, how long did it take from your initial
application to getting your VISA? 

The ex-amassador of Iraq to the US got his all done in 28 days.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general
From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Denied Entry to U.S.
Date: 27 Jul 92 05:43:32 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <BrpJIL.tz@acsu.buffalo.edu>, hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl) writes:
> As an American coming through to Canada and back I can't say that I've
> ever had any problems, except when we were picked as the lucky winners
> of the inspection lottery on a slow day.  We were going to the beach
> and after a five minute check of the vehicle were let into Canada.
>
> A neighbor of a friend is a customs agent and states that
> they spend extra time asking people with flashy cars, personalized
> plates, people from another state than they're entering/exiting,
> plates from provinces distant from the area entering/exiting from.
> 
> My neighbor's Lincoln was pulled over, then taken apart.  When the
> search came up clean he was told he had to reassemble the car himself,
> as they don't do that.  They only take them apart.  :-)

	The customs folks at the Peace bridge in Bflo have a system where they
pick a particular car and color shirt or other such defining characteristic and
they are the lucky folks that get the old fine-tooth comb. They usually *do*
put the car back together, but they are not required to do it, it's a service.

	Then of course there are those who fit the "non-racist" War on Some
Drugs description of `likely' drug suspects.....
 
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Dave D. Cawley		   |	Where a social revolution is pending and,
University Of Scranton	   |	for whatever reason, is not accomplished,
ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu	   |	reaction is the alternative.
ddc1@SCRANTON		   |				-Daniel De Leon
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