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From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: writing lexical functions
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <BzCAvM.9o9@bcstec.ca.boeing.com>, silverm@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Jeff Silverman) writes...
#	I, for one, would like a complete time arithmetic package.  Yes,
#I know I can run a program, use the $ASCTIM and $BINTIM system services and
#the LIB$ADDX and LIB$SUBX calls to do the time arithmetic.  But, doing all
#that takes an image activation, plus, I gotta get the symbols out of DCL and
#put the answer back into a symbol in DCL... a mess.

Would be nice...

#	I would like a silo of the last few (20? 30?) error messages, including
#the 32 bit error codes.

I'd say the last 3-4 would be cool, but that's not there either.  This would
require a patch to $exit or $putmsg.

#	I would like a lexical function which returns the CPU type (Alpha, or
#VAX).

if f$getsyi("HOW_MODEL") .gt. 1023 then ALPHA else VAX

# 
#	Jeff Silverman, Boeing
# 
#>--
#>Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
#>gavron@vesta.sunquest.com

	Ehud

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Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@vesta.sunquest.com
Did I do an INCORRECT THING??
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: silverm@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Jeff Silverman)
Subject: Re: writing lexical functions
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:47:45 GMT

gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:

>In article <1992Dec13.020257.1@tango.cchs.su.oz.au>, brennan@tango.cchs.su.oz.au (Luke Brennan) writes...
>#In article <12DEC199200264446@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
>#> In article <Bz3KEC.Es2@wm.estec.esa.nl>, hevans@estcs1.dnet.estec.esa.nl writes...
>#> # 
>#> #Can anyone out there tell me if it is possible to write my own lexical
>#> #functions, and how?
>#> 	The answer to your implied question is NO, you cannot normally
>#> 	write your own lexical functions into DCL.
>#	Why precisely? No hooks? Yes, but undocumented? Totally impossible?
>#	'you cannot normally'.. okay - so what about NOT normally? :-)
>The other lines of the post which listed how you could, and why you NORMALLY 
>can't were quite clear.
>#	Isn't this the kind of thing an internals guru would *eat* ? !!
>#        Seems like an incredible oversight for VMS - I recall even PRIMOS
>#	had that kind of thing standard in the RTL..
>There is a big difference between running an image, and adding your own 
>iser functions to a privileged interpreter.  That is one Pandora's box
>that Digital has left unopened.  It's too bad, of course.  It would be
>nice if it were there, but there's nothing an external image can do that 
>a lexical could do much better.
>#	Just asking.. Luke.
>I'm sure you realize that that question (as well as why there is no DCL
>compiler) has been asked many times.  The question is not stupid, nor
>is the answer: it opens up too many cans of worms to allow user modification
>(including putting in the appropriate hooks) to the command interpreter 
>which everything in VMS depends on, from bootstrap sysinit phase and on.
>Ehud

Ehud,

	It is hard to argue with somebody who is right, as you are in this
case.  SO let's get down to cases and ask what kind of lexical functions
people actually want.
	I, for one, would like a complete time arithmetic package.  Yes,
I know I can run a program, use the $ASCTIM and $BINTIM system services and
the LIB$ADDX and LIB$SUBX calls to do the time arithmetic.  But, doing all
that takes an image activation, plus, I gotta get the symbols out of DCL and
put the answer back into a symbol in DCL... a mess.
	I would like a silo of the last few (20? 30?) error messages, including
the 32 bit error codes.
	I would like a lexical function which returns the CPU type (Alpha, or
VAX).

	Jeff Silverman, Boeing

>--
>Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
>gavron@vesta.sunquest.com
From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: writing lexical functions
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:55:55 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <12DEC199200264446@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
> In article <Bz3KEC.Es2@wm.estec.esa.nl>, hevans@estcs1.dnet.estec.esa.nl writes...
> # 
> #Can anyone out there tell me if it is possible to write my own lexical
> #functions, and how?
> 
> 	The answer to your implied question is NO, you cannot normally
> 	write your own lexical functions into DCL.
>
> 	There are a few workarounds:
> 		1. Work for Digital on the DCL team and put it in
> 		2. Grease the palm of someone in category 1
> 		3. Run an image which sets a symbol (lib$set_symbol)
> 		   or otherwise returns the information you seek.

Ehud leaves out

                4. Get a copy of the source to DCL and hack it in
		   yourself.

This is an EXPEN$IVE solution and DEC keeps changing the exact
requirements for doing this legally.

Requests for this come up pretty often;  but until and unless DEC puts
some kind of new functionality into VMS X.0, workaround #3 is usually
the best one.

Bruce C. Wright
From: david@ittpub.nl (David P. Morgan)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: IMG to GIF 
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:44:32 WET+0100
Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam

In article <1992Dec16.123118.24869@news.th-darmstadt.de>, SERFLING@V6000A.GSI.DE (Volker Serfling) writes:
> 
> I'm loooking for a program that converts DEC's IMG-Files into COMPUSERVE GIF-
> Files. I'm using VMS 5.5 on a VS4000-60. 
> 
> Volker

I assume you mean DDIF to GIF ?
You could try reading the DDIF image into DECwindows Paint, exporting
it as X11 bitmap and read this into XV and save it as GIF. XV is a PD graphics
manipulation program that handles many formats.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David P. Morgan                        Internet: david@ittpub.nl
ITT Publitec R+D BV                    UUCP:     ...!sun4nl!ittpub!david
Amsterdam                              PSI:      020412905761212::DAVID
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Help Wanted: Post Procedures
From: awlin@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:06:43 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

How do I "upload" a text ASCII file into a post?

Thanx,

AWL
From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: VMS listings kit (was Re: writing lexical functions)
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:47:50 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <1992Dec14.223000.964@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.085555.5895@ais.com>, bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
>  writes:
>>> #Can anyone out there tell me if it is possible to write my own lexical
>>> #functions, and how?
>>> [...]
>>                 4. Get a copy of the source to DCL and hack it in
>> 		   yourself.
>> 
>> This is an EXPEN$IVE solution and DEC keeps changing the exact
>> requirements for doing this legally.
> 
> I must protest.  Listings for nearly all of VMS, plus all of the utilities
> that ship with it, can be purchased on CD-ROM for about $2200, and the legal
> requirements (you need to sign a source license agreement) haven't changed
> since this offering was introduced many years ago.
> 
> No, you don't get compilable source for this price.  But you certainly get 
> enough information to help you add things to the system. 

But if you're changing something like DCL, to do something like add new
lexical functions, I think you'll _need_ the compilable sources -- it's
not like writing something that interfaces with some of the internals,
you'll have to actually modify the sources and recompile the image.  The
listings are rather problematic for this purpose.

They _are_ very useful however, and in many (most?) cases you don't
really need compilable sources.  It's a good point that the listings
are not too outrageously priced and are fairly readily available, but
if I'm not mistaken the actual source kit is not only expensive, but
also subject to frequent policy changes by DEC.  As you note there is
a widespread misconception that the listings kit is also subject to the
same policy changes, a typical case of DEC's right hand not knowing
what the left hand is doing.

Bruce C. Wright
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: writing lexical functions
Date: 19 Dec 92 15:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Dec17.132700.1068@beckman.com>, dsroberts@beckman.com writes...
#In article <17DEC199211540418@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
#> if f$getsyi("HOW_MODEL") .gt. 1023 then ALPHA else VAX
# 
#Of course, "HW_MODEL" works somewhat better in this case :-)  OR is this a new
#alpha function, Ehud?

It's a typo, Don, which is somewhat like a mistake (you've seen those
I know) but a little less serious :)

#   Don Roberts                   Internet:  dsroberts@beckman.com
# [bzzt]

Ehud

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Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@vesta.sunquest.com
Will it improve my CASH FLOW?
From: david@ittpub.nl (David P. Morgan)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: UUCP-SMTP help request
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:47:47 WET+0100
Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam

In article <1992Dec16.111419.21308@npal.rn.com>, sbrant@npal.rn.com writes:
>   I think the solution is to use the mail_rewrite rules to intercept
>   all outbound-to addresses and to insert the routing info forcing
>   the message to go to the router system.  I have attempted to do this
>   and it does modify the b.xxx file and the d.xxx file remains ok with
>   the proper @ address and uucp likes this.  But I am not certain if this
>   really works, or is the correct method.

I'm running UUCP v1.3 and that's exactly what I do so that people can enter
Internet addresses in UUCP%"" and use the REPLY command.
And it's always worked 100%.

Also, you can put in a line that starts with the name "smart-host" in your
U.whatever file equated to the router name and UUCP will send all messages
it cannot route to the router. But I haven't neede to do this as the first
message has always worked a treat. It's documented.

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David P. Morgan                        Internet: david@ittpub.nl        |ucannot
ITT Publitec R+D BV                    UUCP:     ...!sun4nl!ittpub!david|readdis
Amsterdam                              PSI:      020412905761212::DAVID |onaVT52
From: yqdx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: HELP: Attempted break-ins?
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:53:52 EST
Distribution: vmsnet
Organization: Cornell University

Hi-
  Lately, several users of our VAXStation 3200 have been reporting that
when they log in, it often says "one unsuccessful attempt since last
login."  It is not on every account, and it is not as distressing as if
it said "10000 failed attempts"  or whatever.  However, our computer's
address is not broadcast to the world, so we do not expect any random
"noise."
  It has happened enough that I am concerned.  Are there techniques for
logging the origin of attempted logins, and/or all logins in general?
I apologize if this is common knowledge, for I am still a novice system
administrator.  We are currently running VMS 5.3. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
  Thanks in advance.

-Chris Bruns
Cornell Biochemistry Dept.
yqdx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: Re: Any VAX consultants in Maryland/DC area?
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:31:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Distribution: usa
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Dec11.184225.16739@cis.uab.edu>, mahesh@evb.com writes...
#We have a Micro VAX II and the tape drive is not
#working for unknown reasons. It copies all the data to the
#tape and then complains something is wrong. Are there any
#consultants in Maryland/DC area whose rates are reasonable to
#get this fixed?

	I'd be happy to come to Maryland and solve your problems.
	My rates to get this fixed would be quite reasonable, since
	you've clearly done all the preliminary work and knows exactly
	what you want.

	It's a good thing you included the exact error code, since
	otherwise nobody could help you.  Conspiratorially winking
	at you, let me tell you, sometimes people post to this newsgroup
	but instead of including an error code, they say "complains
	that something is wrong."  Those people frustrate people
	like me, who are always here to try and help.  See we like
	to help (so does Carl Lydick) but it's tough when those bad
	guys won't say what's wrong.  I'm glad you were kind enough	
	to include an error code, and an indication of which command
	you used to generate it, as well as your system configuration,
	version, and an errorlog analysis...

#Please respond only by email as I don't have direct access to this
#group.

	Oh yes, I hope you don't mind my cc'ing my response to 
	the group.  I'm often accused of not being helpful, and
	I wanted to be sure and help pass this information on to
	anyone else who might be having similar problems, so they
	too can be resolved.

	Hey, if you're not too busy, I'll come up and consult
	for you, diagnosing this particular problem. 

#Thanks!

	Any time!  Just ask!

#-- 
#B.G. MAHESH                           | Email : mahesh@evb.com
#Software Engineer                     |         
#SETT Inc. (Affiliated to EVB Software Engineering, Inc.)
#Frederick MD                          

	Ehud

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From: rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: Re: VMS V5.5 Upgrade Questions
Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:10 PST
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eql10.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <9675584@MVB.SAIC.COM>, Hoverson@Fwva.Saic.Com (Jeff Hoverson %%% SAIC %%% 619535-7043 %%%) writes...
> We're planning on upgrading our V5.4-3 mixed-interconnect VAXcluster to
> V5.5-1 of VMS tomorrow evening (Tue.).  In preparation for this task I
> thought I'd query this group to see if anyone had any "last minute"
> suggestions or recommendations regarding this upgrade.

     Don't update the queueing system during the upgrade; if you try to
do so, that portion will fail.  After the upgrade you'll be running A5.5
instead of V5.5 and there is a command procedure documented in the
installation guide which will complete the upgrade from A5.5 to V5.5.
You could also keep the old queue system and update to A5.5-1.

     After the upgrade, be sure to check and possibly reset your system
clock.  Chances are pretty high that it'll be off by a year.  If you do
reset it by that large amount, you should probably reboot immediately...

		Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
From: huber@vxcrna.cern.ch (Sepp Huber, CERN -4439,-6712)
Subject: Re: VMS V5.5 Upgrade Questions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:01:00 GMT

In article <9675584@MVB.SAIC.COM>, Hoverson@Fwva.Saic.Com (Jeff Hoverson %%% SAIC %%% 619535-7043 %%%) writes...
>We're planning on upgrading our V5.4-3 mixed-interconnect VAXcluster to V5.5-1
..
>print/batch queues, after the upgrade completes.  That is my primary interest
>on this message - print/batch queue problems.
> 
V5.5 upgrade is very friendly in the step towards the new queue system.
It lets  You finish the upgrade to A5.5-x still using the old queue system.
With the new system running , You have time to plan the queue system upgrade,
a command procedure is prepared to do this. And You should not do that BEFORE 
reading the release notes carefully!
-
Joseph "Sepp" Huber        | At present in CERN, phone -4439/-6712
Max-Planck-Institut Physik | Internet: huber@vxcern.cern.ch
Munich, Germany            | HEPnet:   VXCERN::HUBER
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
From: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: Any VAX consultants in Maryland/DC area?
Originator: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:42:25 GMT

We have a Micro VAX II and the tape drive is not
working for unknown reasons. It copies all the data to the
tape and then complains something is wrong. Are there any
consultants in Maryland/DC area whose rates are reasonable to
get this fixed?

Please respond only by email as I don't have direct access to this
group.

Thanks!
-- 
B.G. MAHESH                           | Email : mahesh@evb.com
Software Engineer                     |         
SETT Inc. (Affiliated to EVB Software Engineering, Inc.)
Frederick MD
From: Hoverson@Fwva.Saic.Com (Jeff Hoverson %%% SAIC %%% 619535-7043 %%%)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: Re: Problems configuring LN03 on terminal server
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:42:32 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Int'l, Corp. - Computer systems operation

reuber@world.std.com (kent b reuber) writes:
>Having problems configuring and LN03 on a terminal server. System version
>is VMS 5.3. I can connect the printer and do a TEST PORT 1, I get a test
>page as expected. But when I try copying to the device, I get the message
>
>RMS-F-WER, file write error
>SYSTEM-F-HANGUP, data set hangup
>
>I've checked the name of the server and the port name, but that seems OK.
>Anything else that looks like a likely snafu. This seems to be an
>intensely painful process fraught with peril.
 
We've run into this problem a few times over the past couple of years also. 
Usually it has to do with either the terminal server not being defined properly
in the NCP database (primarily the name) or the port name is defined
incorrectly.  I believe these names are case-sensitive.  Also, we've found, on
occasion, that another system has channels open to the port that the LN03 is
connected to , thereby yielding the "data set hangup" messages.  You merely
need to log out the port on the terminal server to resolve this problem.
 
Good luck!
 
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  Jeff Hoverson                    |       (619)535-7043
  SAIC                             |       Hoverson@Fwva.Saic.Com
  10260 Campus Point Dr., MS D2    |       VAX/VMS System Manager
  San Diego, CA  92121             |       But, I coulda' been ....
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From: savolainen_p@kulminator.salcom.fi (Pekka Savolainen, Salcom Finland)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: Using 2 SCSI buses in a Microvax 3100
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:59:28 +0200
Reply-To: Pekka.Savolainen@Salcom.Fi
Organization: Salcom Finland, Jyvaskyla Finland


Hi,

I have a Microvax 3100 loaded with external SCSI devices.
There are now 7 devices connected. The SCSI cable length
exceeds the maximum(???) 6 meters.
Recently I've experienced lots SCSI bus errors (PKB0).

So, I'm wondering if anyone has attached external devices to
the internal SCSI bus. Is there a way to extent the cable
from inside the box to an extra SCSI plug connected in
the rear of the box?

Thanks in advance,

Pekka

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From: Hoverson@Fwva.Saic.Com (Jeff Hoverson %%% SAIC %%% 619535-7043 %%%)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: VMS V5.5 Upgrade Questions
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:43:53 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Int'l, Corp. - Computer systems operation

We're planning on upgrading our V5.4-3 mixed-interconnect VAXcluster to V5.5-1
of VMS tomorrow evening (Tue.).  In preparation for this task I thought I'd
query this group to see if anyone had any "last minute" suggestions or
recommendations regarding this upgrade.  Our system disk is a shadow set
comprised of two (2) RA90's.  I am familiar with the fact that one cannot
upgrade a shadow set, and plan on making it a "regular" disk during the
upgrade.  I've also heard that there are still some problems associated with
print/batch queues, after the upgrade completes.  That is my primary interest
on this message - print/batch queue problems.
 
Feel free to e-mail me or post a response here.  Any pieces of info will be
appreciated!
 
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  Jeff Hoverson                    |       (619)535-7043
  SAIC                             |       Hoverson@Fwva.Saic.Com
  10260 Campus Point Dr., MS D2    |       VAX/VMS System Manager
  San Diego, CA  92121             |       But, I coulda' been ....
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
From: sysop@robot.nuceng.ufl.edu (Shawn A. Clifford)
Subject: ADDR_CVT.COM - Internet address conversion program
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: sysop@robot.nuceng.ufl.edu
Organization: Nuclear Engineering Sciences - Univ. of Florida
Date: 14 Dec 1992 12:08 EST  

Here is a program that might be useful for tracing security messages concerning
internet access.  The security message gives the address as a longword, and
maybe shows part of the dotted decimal address.  This program will convert the
unsigned longword to dotted decimal (and hex), and vice-versa.


$! Title:	ADDR_CVT.COM
$! Author:	Shawn A. Clifford
$! Date:	09-DEC-1992
$! Purpose:	Convert longword network addresses (as they appear in SECURITY
$!		intrusion messages) into an internet dotted address, or
$!		vice-versa.
$! Usage:	@ADDR_CVT [longword_address|dotted_address]
$! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
$! 'f$verify(0)
$ w := write sys$output
$ w ""
$ if (p1.nes."")
$ then
$	$addr$ = p1
$	if (f$type($addr$).eqs."INTEGER") then -
     w "Longword:  ''$addr$'"	! Print the longword before it gets signed
$ else
$	read/prompt="Enter a dotted or longword internet address:  " sys$command $addr$
$ endif
$ if (f$type($addr$).nes."INTEGER") then goto to_longword
$!
$to_dotted:
$   $addr$=f$integer($addr$)	! Convert to signed integer
$   hex$=f$fao("!XL",$addr$)	! Convert the longword to a hex string
$   q1_hex=f$extract(0,2,hex$)	! Extract the hex quartet
$   q2_hex=f$extract(2,2,hex$)
$   q3_hex=f$extract(4,2,hex$)
$   q4_hex=f$extract(6,2,hex$)
$   q1=%x'q1_hex		! Convert quartet to integers
$   q2=%x'q2_hex
$   q3=%x'q3_hex
$   q4=%x'q4_hex
$!
$!	Print results
$ w "Internet Address:  ''q1'.''q2'.''q3'.''q4'   or   ''q1_hex'.''q2_hex'.''q3_hex'.''q4_hex'"
$ w ""
$ exit
$!
$to_longword:
$   x=1
$   temp=$addr$
$   loop:
$      q'x'=f$extract(0, f$locate(".",$addr$), $addr$)
$      $addr$=f$extract( f$locate(".",$addr$) + 1, f$length($addr$), $addr$ )
$      x=x+1
$   if (x.le.4) then goto loop
$   $long$=('q1'*256*256*256)+('q2'*256*256)+('q3'*256)+'q4'
$   $long$:='f$fao("!ZL",$long$)
$!
$!	Print results
$ w "Longword form of internet address  ''temp'  is  ''$long$'"
$ w ""
$ exit
Newsgroups: vmsnet.employment