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From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
Subject: Re: A4000 at WOC
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:55:07 GMT

Peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

(stuff deleted)
>It is. The Mac II and IBM SVGA systems are still slower than the Amiga even
>in Mono. And it doesn't have anything to do with the hardware. It's the
>software. The Amiga system software is simply more efficient.

AmigaDOS is very efficient.  All those people who want resource tracking and
memory protection, you will slug AmigaDOS up, turning it into OS/2.

>And no, this isn't sour grapes. I've been saying it all along.

Yes, and Unix people are looking at amigados for inspiration.

>-- 
>Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
> `-_-'   "Have you hugged your wolf today?"
>  'U`  

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From: breaker@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Guy Sisalli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 at WOC
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:19:31 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix

In article <7txnfzp.damiel@netcom.com> damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos) writes:
>
>until marc sees an a4000 in action, anything he states concerning 
>subjective impressions of relative performance are necessarily second-hand
>information. until *you* have seen an a4000 in action, all you have to go on
>is second-hand information. one report says its "slow", one report says its
>"fast". since we are talking about epiphenomena (the subjectiveness of what is
>slow or fast), unless there is broad consensus on this (everyone who has seen
>the a4000 states "its dog slow"), it seems foolish to base decisions on
>preliminary, second-hand impressions.
>
>in this instance, marc's "observations" based upon second-hand information
>are neither right nor wrong. they are specious and ultimately irrelevant.
>
>said state obtains for all of marc's postings, it should be noted.
>
>-- 
>paul theodoropoulos                          damiel@netcom.com

I don't know much about operating systems on the PC(There are so many), but am I right in thinking that there are NO 256 GUI's out there(at least not by default), and that they usualy run in 16 colors? 16 colors would be enough for me. And I doubt I'd ever want my workbench in 256 colors. I just can't see the justification for that. a GUI should look nice, but 256 is an extream, isn't it? Maybe 256 was on there mostly for show?

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Subject: Re: Amiga No OS?
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Date: 11 Sep 92 06:44:54 EST
 <1992Sep5.152754.23866@ra.msstate.edu> <BuCHCp.IyE@starnine.com> <1992Sep10.130344.29119@ra.msstate.edu>
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Sep10.130344.29119@ra.msstate.edu>, skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
> In article <BuCHCp.IyE@starnine.com> mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep5.152754.23866@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>>>In article <Bu32Lo.1qq@starnine.com> mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:
>>>>In article <torrie.714898303@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>>>>>DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta) writes:
>>>>>
>>
>>They DID!  Remember AmigaBasic?  (forget AmigaBasic?)
> 
> I actually had lots of fun with AmigaBASIC.  Compared to the Apple ][ junk
> that I started on, the Amiga with AmigaBASIC was a wonderful experience.
> With a little more support from C= and/or Microsoft, it might have matured
> into a fine little language.
> 
	I have taken some short QBasic programs and run them using AmigaBasic.
	Certainly AmigaBasic is missing a lot now, but it's amazing how
	much alike they are.  

> 
> Skip Sauls
> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization.  My opinions only **

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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: aga chipset for amiga
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:34:14 GMT

>>	Somebody mentions that yes, HAM is the only way to get more than
>>256 colors simultaneously with AGA but it is available on all resolutions.
>>But my point was that HAM just isn't useful for much besides looking at
>>still pictures.  For example; can Workbench run in HAM mode?
>
>   I think certain companies that have made HAM applications and HAM games
>would disagree with you. (ie: Sculpt-3D and other applications, DigiPaint and
>other HAM paint programs, and Pioneer Plague and other HAM games).
>   Even Deluxe Paint 4.0+ supports HAM. It's used a lot.

 	How many games out there use HAM mode?  I know of Pioneer Plague and
   Links.  Are there that many more?

							G.Greene

>
>
>Gregg Giles (Dynamix, Inc.)                 BIX: ggiles
From: 2ftqkiln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Upgrade path from A3000 -> A4000? Ask at WOC!
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:37:34 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Sep13.173427.20118@nntp.uoregon.edu>, ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
> In article <92257.115643JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu> JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>
>>Not pin compatible but what about installing it on a ZorroIII Card or through
>>the CPU slot.  
> 
>    I don't think so. The AGA aren't just plop-in chips, folks. That's why
> Commodore put them on the motherboard of the A4000. These chips must have 
> access directly to the Chip RAM bus of the Amiga, and I don't think that any
> Amiga model has nearly enough data/address lines in the CPU slot to do what
> people are calling for. It just isn't technically possible.
>    Don't hold your breath on hacks. AGA is way more than a simple upgrade.
> (BTW, even if it were possible to hack the AGA chips in an A3000, it would
> still be impossible to get the additional graphics modes new to the AGA set.
> The AGA chips >>>require<<< the additional bandwidth of the A4000. The A3000
> does not physically have enough data/address lines for these new bandwidths.
> The same goes for every other Amiga model on the planet that doesn't have
> "A4000" on the front of it.)
>    You can't turn a V4 into a V8 by saying you'll add 4 cylinders.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I could be wrong but isn't that what Audi basically did with the 
Audi V8?
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gregg Giles (Dynamix, Inc.)                 BIX: ggiles 
> All opinions expressed are my own.          Internet: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: More AmigaWorld Lies
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:25:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.002338.2691@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.220028.2774@leela.cs.orst.edu> bob@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (robert s. richardson) writes:
>>
>>OB.AMIGA  IF an A500 is the "ford escort" of the Amiga line, what
>>are the 600, 1000, 2000, 3000.  (Lets keep this hopeless analogy
>>to the current machines, for now!)
>
>Sure...
>
>A500: Ford Escort
>A600: Ford Tempo
>A1000:Ford Festiva
>A2000:Ford Escort Wagon  :-)
>A3000:Ford Probe GT

Nah, it is more like this :

A500       : Ford Escort
A600       : Ford Festiva
A1000      : Ford Mustang
A2000      : Ford Taurus
A2500      : Ford Taurus SHO
A3000      : Ford Mustang GT
A3000T     : Ford LTD
A3000T/040 : Ford LTD, special "Cop Car" edition

And after next weeks show :

A800       : Ford Probe GT
A4000      : Jaguar XJ220 (not a Ford, but Jaguar is owned by Ford)

>Are we limited to Ford? How about Pontiacs or Toyotas or Buicks?
>:-)

How about comparing the various computer companies with the car companies?

Apple     = Mercedes      Nice cars, but way overpriced and overhyped
IBM       = Cadillac      Nice, but overpriced and stodgy
Atari     = Yugo          Cheap, ugly, and not worth much at all
Clones    = Chevrolet     Good basic transportation, some special models
Dell      = Pontiac       Good bang for buck, similar to other GMs
Gateway   = Buick         Similar to Pontiac, little more upscale
Compaq    = Oldsmobile    Similar to other GMs, less stodgy than Cadillac
Tandy     = Chrysler      Plain and boring, not much else can be said
Sun       = Porsche       Not always the best performer, but well built
SGI       = Lamborghini   Awesome performance, usually low volume
Cray      = Vector        Really awesome, very low volume
HP        = BMW           Great engineering, some great performers
Commodore = Volkswagen    Popular in Germany, not so much in U.S. anymore

:-)

>>Bob Richardson
>>bob@atlantis.cs.orst.edu

>Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
>" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
>        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu


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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: aga chipset for amiga
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:23:15 GMT

"robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com> writes:

> The suggested retail price is $3699. This is actually a pretty good
>price. it's cheaper then the Amiga 3000s SRP when it was first released.
>Also comes with a lot more. The only thing missing in the A3000 was
>better graphics capabilities. Even BYTE magazine said the A3000 would
>have been their choice computer had it come with at least 8 bit
>graphics. 256,000 colours at one time in all resolutions is excellent!
>The price is good with a street price of around $3000!

> This also means the Amiga 3000 will probably jump below $2000!

At the show, I saw that new A3000 25/50's were being sold for $1699.

keith

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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Critical mass getting bigger? - was re: AmigaWorld Lies about Links
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:03:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.040158.557@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.154655.16558@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>>philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>>>
>>>example. I defy you to point to any evidence that DOS users have more than
>>>640k of omemory without going the extendor route.
>>>
>>
>>DOS extender or different OS, an 8MB PC is *not* limited to 550KB of usable
>>RAM.
>
>I excluded DOS extendors from your list. There are few programs which use them.
>I actually own 2 (Gauss and S+). So they bypass the OS. Let's stick to DOS
>and Windows, say.

Yes, I think Windows has a limit of 4 megs.

--
Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech
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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: A4000 - Early Impressions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:49:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.200402.18672@news.Hawaii.Edu> hcheng@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Dr. Hsueh-li Cheng) writes:
>In article <5417@tuegate.tue.nl> peter@blade (Peter Korsten) writes:
>>
>>The AA-chipset doesn't support all SVGA features, like 800x600 or
>                                                        ^^^^^^^
>>1024x768 in 256 colors.
>
>	There has been numerous posts stating that the AGA chipset
>does have 800x600 resolution in 256 colors and in 256,000+ colors(HAM8). 
>Also since the AGA chipset is programmable like the ECS, I think it 
>may be possible to have 1024x768 and 1280x960 resolutions in a future
>release of workbench, though I'm not sure if the bandwidth would allow 
>256 colors.

   Sure, the AGA chipset is repgrammable, but there are limits to the
reprogrammability.  I've made up a phrase to describe the limits of
reprogrammability on the AGA chipset: "If you can't do it on the A600 or
CDTV, then you can't do it on the A4000."  This is because the AGA Lisa
chip does not have the capability to generate any resolution modes that
are not also possible (with less color capabilities) on the ECS Denise
chip, which the A600 and CDTV use.

>        Personally, I feel that 640x480 is good enough for most PC   
>applications and 800x600 is just an added bonus. Sure it would be          
>nice to have 1024x768 if you have a large monitor, but at least             
>640x480 isn't blocky like the 320x200 resolutions. I know in certain         
>applications it is better to have higher resolutions, but this is the         
>first unveiling of the A4000, give C= a chance to get some feedback to        
>add new resolutions in the next OS release.

   Spoken like a true Amiga owner.  But I'm afraid that it will take whole
new hardware and not an update to Workbench to fix the A4000's resolution
problems.

>Joseph
>hcheng@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

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From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: a4000 specs? who know
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:17:46 GMT

In article <3737@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
> >SCSI drives cost more because they're better drives to begin with.

>   That's horseshit and you know it!

Hey, chill out dude.

> You couldn't give me a Seagate drive,
> SCSI, IDE or MFM, they're all crap.  And Maxtor makes IDE drives, same
> hardware, different electronics.

Same price, too, give or take $20.

I didn't say that there aren't good IDE drives. But the good ones aren't
any cheaper than SCSI. The difference is less than most state's sales tax,
and that doesn't stop people buying in-state.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   "Have you hugged your wolf today?"
  'U`  
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From: hyongel@cco.caltech.edu (Hyong Chol Lee)
Subject: Re: Amiga No OS?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:57:23 GMT

mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:

>In article <torrie.714898303@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>>DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta) writes:
>>
>>>You know, if you had spent money on an IBM or Mac in 1986 instead of an Amiga
>>>you couldn't even buy a stupid shoot em up game for your computer.
>>
>>>	"1 meg Required"                  (Can't cram a Meg into that 1986
>>>					   Fat Mac)
>>
>>  The Mac Plus was released in January 1986, and has no problems holding
>>4MB of memory.

>But he didn't say "MacPlus".  The poster correctly said "Fat Mac".
>There was no way to ghhet more than 512K out of those things.

>It was a frustrating time for Mac owners.  Those exasperated by their
>128K abortions bought the Fat Mac upgrade.  Then Apple brought out
>the Mac Plus (no upgrade from either of the 2 earlier machines) so
>everyone clamored to buy the latest & greatest (and we remember what
>those cutesy little things cost, eh?).

There was a mac plus upgrade from the fat mac or 128k mac. It came in in 3
parts. The most basic was a 128k Rom upgrade. Then you could also get an 800K
floppy upgrade (but you had to have the Rom upgrade first, because the floppy
driver wouldn't work with the new 800K drives). Finally, you could get a
motherboard swap. This gave you the new roms and SCSI, but not the 800k floppy.

>THEN... out came the SE and the MacII, and again, no way to upgrade
>the Mac Plus to either.  Talk about abandoning their customers!
>And the SE was such a lame improvement over the MacPlus!  Still,
>many plunked down ANOTHER couple thou...

Apple has only produced 3 macs that didn't get upgrade paths - the Mac Plus,
the Mac IIfx, and the Mac IIsi. The fx and iisi are relatively recent, so there
might be hope for them.
BTW, the A600 isn't much of an improvement over the A500 ...

>>Evan.  (who now has to bow down to Redmond's direction every morning
>>because Bill is paying for my office).


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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: A4000 - Early Impressions
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:19:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.181453.19965@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) whines:
>In article <1992Sep14.074935.17241@gbrmpa.gov.au> matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep14.064710.19465@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) moans:
>>>
>>>If Commodore had put a 1280x960 non-interlaced monochrome or limited-color
>>>mode into the AGA chipset, and had put SCSI on the motherboard, the A4000
>>>would have made a damn nice low-end machine.
>>
>>Even if C= had've included these, you'd still be whinging about something
>>else.
>
>I am not whining, I'm simply stating a fact.  

HA!  You have done nothing but whine, bitch, moan, cry, and every other
possible form of complaint.  Face it, you're a whining little geek with
nothing to do but sit around on your fat-ass and bellyache about any and
every thing that C= does.  As for facts, your posts are so full of your
bullshit complaints that no one takes you seriously.

Get a life you fucking goob.

>With a hi-res mode, Commodore could have competed very well in the low-end 
>UNIX market.  Without it, this market is basically closed to them, for all 
>practical purposes.

What low-end UNIX market?  Since you claim to know so many facts, tell
us how many UNIX boxes shipped last year.  Most of the sales of UNIX boxes
are to scientific and educational institutions and a few of the bigger
companies.  Do you really think that the average business is going to buy
a UNIX box over a PC just to run business software?  If you do, you are an
even bigger idiot than you make yourself out to be.

>>>As it is, by time you've added enough hardware to the A4000 to make it
>>>usable as a UNIX workstation (a video card and SCSI card, in addition to 
>>the rest mentioned above), Commdore's costs for the system make it 
>>>impossible for them to undercut anybody in the low-end UNIX workstation 
>>>market.
>>
>>Since when has it been their intention to compete directly with the Unix
>>market ????
>
>With better graphics hardware and on-board SCSI, they could have.  

So what if they did?  You wouldn't buy one.  Hell, if they shipped an Amiga
with graphics on par with an SGI box and a SCSI subsytem with its own 040
and 16M cache for $1000, you'd find something to bitch about.

You are such an asshole.

>Apparently Commodore agrees that they have no chance in the Unix market now,
>because they do not seem to have any plans for it whatsoever.

Why bother with the UNIX market?  They aren't going to be able to compete
with Sun, HP, DEC, SGI, and the others any better than Apple can.  You
bitch about the limited R&D budget, then you say that they should be working
on UNIX.  What is your problem dickhead?

>>matt.

>| Marc Barrett -MoreBitching-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu

It is such a pity that human flesh is wasted upon a bitch like you.

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu




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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: High Density drive for the Amiga???
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:56:39 GMT

>>>>	You should have read one of the pc.misc groups about a month ago,
>>>>   a couple of Amigadroids did just this.  So don't go claiming that Amiga
>>>>   owners are innocent of starting flame wars in other groups.
>>>>
>>>>							G.Greene
>
>    Pompous?  No...if my choice of language offends you, I apologize for that
>fact.  Yet, notice this reference to 'unneeded hostility' as a joke...now, take
>a close look at your post and the mood behind it.  And let's be honest...the
>term "Amigadroid" is indeed just that...a childish name-calling label.
>    As for 'labeling', I would rather not be labeled at all.  There's no real
>need for it, and while I do develop on the Amiga, I also do so on other 
>platforms as well.

	Since I'm the one who said it, I'll explain.  I did not mean to brand
  every Amiga owner an Amigadroid, only those who post to other computer
  groups trying to start a flame war.  By the way, can you believe that the
  subject header of this discussion is "High Density drives for the Amiga".
  Did we go off on a tangent or what. :)

							G.Greene


>
>                 ----------------------------------------
>           LaMonte Koop -- SCSU Electrical/Computer Engineering
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>              "You mean you want MORE lights on this thing???"
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From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces CD Solution Promotion
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 01:18:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.225740.1795@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>   The advantage of the ideal solution is that it would be vastly more 
>flexible in the long run.  For instance, with a Commodore or third-party CD-ROM
>drive connected via the SCSI port, it would be possible to allow the system
>to run Macintosh CD-ROM multimedia software under Emplant or A-Max.  It would
>also be potentially possible for Commodore to modify the Janus software to
>allow an Amiga equipped with a SCSI CD-ROM drive and a BridgeBoard to run
>IBM MPC software.  None of this is possible with this cheap hack, connecting 
>a CDTV to an Amiga via the parallel port.


1.)  I don't think Mac CD-ROMs are very interesting, not yet anyway.

2.)  I don't think Commodore wants to promote Mac CD or MPC.

3.)  You can probably buy one of those cheap CD-ROM drives for your
     bridgecard for $300 if you do want the PC CD-ROM software.

4.)  It seems to me that it would be easier to modify the CDTV to 
     double as a CD-ROM drive which could be used with Emplant or
     bridgecards. ...but C will never compete with these cheapo PC
     CD-ROM drives.  The drive you're talking about was probably
     going to cost as much as the CDTV and not have any advantages
     other than size. 

I suppose I would have liked a CD-ROM drive for my Amiga but the CDTV you
can carry into the front room to use on the big-screen TV you know!  Maybe
just a small CDTV with easy connectors is the answer. :)  


>   IMO, this temporary solution -- which will very likely end up becoming a
>permanent one -- is damage control due to Commodore's inept decision to include
>an IDE port and not a SCSI port in the new Amiga systems.  The ideal solution
>for Amiga CD-ROM multimedia is now less workable on the new Amigas because of
>their lack of a SCSI port.  The real tragedy is that replacing the SCSI port
>with an IDE port will not have the cost advantages that people are saying it
>will have, due to other bad decisions on Commodore's part.


Ah... I think that the A4000 is going to be priced about the same as the
A3000 but with a 120 meg drive, an 040, the AA chipset, and a DSP.




                                    NCW


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