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From: e_ruthyn@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Vampire Fangs
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 01:13:56 PST
Reply-To: e_ruthyn@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

If anyone is interested in very high dental quality,realistic cap 
fangs,please send me email. I make them. If you live in the San Francisco 
Bay Area I can get together with you or I can also work through the mail 
from a dentist's casting of your upper and lower teeth. I can make any 
sort of teeth, actually..They fit right over your own teeth and only come 
off when you take them off. They do not need any sort of adhesive.The 
cost is reasonable and it takes about a couple of weeks to get them. 

No followups, please..

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: Re: NightLife
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:39:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.031504.22512@news.ysu.edu> ai072@yfn.ysu.edu (Gavin S. Patton) writes:
>
>>By the way, I am the only one who liked the "new" (and failed)
>>Dark Shadows? I had a rather good time watching each episode
>>by candlelight, wearing only a flowing white negligee...
> 
>No, I liked it too!  I wasn't in a negligee, tho...I had my
>Tarot deck out!
>
>-- Darkelas

Ah, I didn't think of getting my Tarot deck out. Though, I admit, I 
would squint at the screen (or freeze frame the tape) whenever Josette's
mother would hold up a card and make a proclamation. My husband would 
ask, "So, is she right?"

Joanna Going was *perfect* as Victoria, IMHO. I think she would have made
a better Mina than Wynona Ryder (excuse any misspellings). Joanna could 
capture the combination of delicacy, trepedation, passion, and 
righteous anger very well. (That said, I cannot watch her on GOING TO 
EXTREMES -- seems like such a waste of her talent.)

I was kind of pissed about the way they (DS) portrayed the witch, Angelique, 
using an upright pentagram that way. First off, if her background was as 
they said, she wouldn't be using pentagrams. Second, even if she was, it 
should be an upside-down pentagram for that kind of thing. But, I admit I 
let it go. 

I still won't forgive Anne Rice for THE WITCHING HOUR. She must have known 
better. As much as I love THE VAMPIRE CHRONICLES, I think a lot of the 
other work of Anne's is substandard (well, add the third CHRONICLE to 
that assessment), and I'm convinced that she does not like women at all.
I realize that many people liked THE WITCHING HOUR, but I lost a lot of 
respect for her after that book came out.

But, I digress... :^)

Anyway, too bad about the '91 Dark Shadows. I guess it did save me from 
redecorating my home in Gothic style. I was getting perilously close to 
ordering velvet drapes and a dozen candlebras...which would have looked 
very odd in my modern architecture home...

Alexandria
From: adrian@west.darkside.com (Adrian)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: NightLife
Date: 29 Dec 92 07:44:35 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

shipley@peyote.tfs.com (Peter Shipley) writes:

> 
> 
> 
> Best quote:
>         "No, Blood light...."
> 
> 2nd best quote:
>         "You broke my heart" (after a stake in the heart, from his S.O.)
> 
> No tits, 2 dead bodies, dozen mummies, Ultra-violet Vampire foo and coffin se
> 
> 
> avalible at Blockbuster
> 
And Ben Cross as Vlad, pre-Barnabas, hamming it up to the max.

-- A

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: rrulli@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Rebecca Rulli)
Subject: Re: DarkShadows (1991)
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:29:39 GMT

I loved the 1991 series of Dark Shadows and was very upset when they
took it off the air.  I used to sit every Friday night, with my mother
and father, and watch it.  Eventually I would like to see the original
but don't have the cash to start renting the videos.

Rebecca



Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ed_eck@milkwy.enet.dec.com 
Subject: Movie review--_Lenore, the Lady Vampire_
Summary: one fang up. Good symbolism.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:17:40 GMT


	_Lenore, the Lady Vampire_

(No, I'm _not_ making this up. Another channel 64 (Boston, MA.) Late Movie. 
Where do they _get_ these things?)

Starring nobody you've ever heard of. Directed by nobody you've 
ever heard of. Produced by his brother...

Actually, this one is something less than horrible. It's obvious 
that the movie is meant to be interperted at a symbolic level
and quite obviously the writer and director were influenced by 
the Freudian theories of personality. I don't want to make the 
movie sound better than it really was, but it did lead me to some 
interesting reflections.

A barely postpubescent girl with a typical religous zealotry, obviously 
in compensation for her inability to cope with others' reactions 
to her sexuality, runs away from her foster home (her foster father 
is a minister with his own sexual hangups) to find and forgive her 
dying father.
Her journey takes her past an assortment of seedy leerers (good camera 
work and casting here) until in the midst of a dark 
Freudian/Dantian/LittleRedRidinghoodish wood, she is captured by 
Lenoretheladyvampire, who proceeds to (rather tamely) debach her 
sadomasochisticly. The girl puts up a token resistance, but obviously 
accepts the process until she realizes its sexual components; Lenore, 
of course, eventually vampirizes (of course it's a word!) her. 

The acting is not quite passable--Lenore lacks the required magnetism
and presence. The girl is well cast for her virginal appearence, but 
doesn't catch the tension between childhood and adolesence. Everyone
else is furniture and the plot is cobbled together ("...but last year,
everything _changed_. We don't know why!" And we never find out.)
and has major flaws and obvious backfillings.

Some of the symbolism is obvious--the woods as the sexual confusion 
of adolesence, with the beasts in the woods symbolic of both her awaking
sexual urges and of the men who leer at her--but it is nicely done
and as with all good symbolism, can be read at many levels. It 
_means_ much more than it _says_.
Other symbols are more disturbing. The final scenes, where the girl 
returns home to first seduce and then kill the minister, then sings 
in the church choir is obviously a symbol that she has intergrated her 
sexual and spiritual natures; has her becomming a vampire led to an 
intergration and maturation of her personality? What happened to her
original liefmotiv of forgiveness? Lenore the Vampire is 
a symbol of the end of childhood innocence, of course, but could she 
also symbolize the first menstrual period? (Are we on to a PHD thesis here?)

Bergman this isn't, but if you're the kind of person who enjoyed teasing
out the underlying themes of (whatthehell is the title in English?) _Tisningen_?
The Silence...? Or _The Hour of the Wolf_ (It's more like the them than
like _The Seventh Seal_), _Lenore_ is probably worth watching. Once.

Ed E.
From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Witching Hour sequel?
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:00:18 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola, G|teborg, G|taland

In article <forb0004.176.725600529@student.tc.umn.edu> forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis ) writes:
>I was wondering how Rice would deal with an evil spirit after describing an 
>agnostic, existential world in the Vampire Chronicles; her description of 
>these entities as an immortal dispersed cellular being was a stroke of 
>genious. Here's an entirely new class of beings to write about, integrate 
>into her vampire and mummy books.

  ?! I thought it was a similar type of spirit to Amel in 'Queen of the
Damned'. The difference in description IMHO comes from the different (to say
the least:) cultural background of Rowan and Mekare.

>Aaron several times mentions that other "monsters" have tried to enter our 
>world via some gateway, but I don't remember any descriptions of these 
>attempts. Did anyone catch this?

  The entire Vampire Cronicles is about a successful attempt.

>Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu

-bertil-
--
"It can be shown that for any nutty theory, beyond-the-fringe political view or
 strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an
 exercise for your kill-file."
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: questions, comments
From: beth@nermal.SantaRosa.Edu (Beth Winegarner)
Date: 25 Dec 92 17:48:44 PST
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA

>It occurs to me that there are those in this world that feel that vampires
>and creatures of the night truly exist.
>
>I will gladly invite a REAL vampire to come and grant unto me this GIFT.
>Preferable an attractive one of the female variety :).
>I am offering you the opportunity to build your ranks and preserve your
>species...  my only hesitation... you must first converse with me regarding
>various questions i have about REAL vampires.  my knowledge on the subject is
>moderate as I have done various amounts of reading on the subject along with
>the popular entertainment examples.  
>
>ANY and ALL TRUE vampires are invited to converse with me.  I am not using an
>anonymous posting service as i feel that if you are to be honest with me...
>i should retuyrn the favor.  please... no morons, flames, flamers, fakes, 
>wannabe's, or wishers...  honest to honest vampires only.  thank you.

I used to not believe.  When I started reading about the vampires, hearing
about them, I thought what I thought about all things mythical:  "oh, they
don't exist!".... but the more I think about it, the more I realize the
possibility.  Has anyone read "I am Legend"?  It's an interesting comparison
to Anne Rice's and Stoker's work.... very different.  I've met some people
who want to be vampires, who KNOW vampires exist, who would not lie to me
about such things existing... I know others who call themselves vampires but
are just waiting for the Real Thing to come along and give them the Gift.

I don't know if I fully believe, I'd have to see it to believe it... but
when I see it (and I'm looking)... I will believe.
From: adrian@west.darkside.com (Adrian)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Voluptuous Blood-Sucking Tarts
Date: 24 Dec 92 12:44:38 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

Mr. "Deth,"

Did any of that personal, alleged information in your last post
belong on alt.vampyres?  I think not.  Nor did the condescending
verbiage in your earlier post belong here, either.

What IS your purpose in posting to this group?  Certainly not to
make friends.

-- A

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From: melantha@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Interview Movie
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 12:12:59 PST
Reply-To: melantha@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

A group of friends and myself took the liberty of discussing the 
improbability of someone successfully writing (including Anne Rice 
herself) a screenplay for Intervie with a Vampire.  There is simply too 
much narration and imagery that could be lost in the telling.  Especially 
in consideration of the Claudia character.  I cannot think of a single 
child actress who could handle such a complex role.  Would the screenplay 
merely alter the charater's original nature and keep her a "vampire 
child" instead of maturing the character's mind (and thus bringing into 
play a lot of child pornography cries from the Religious Right and etc.)?
 
In any case...presuming that a somewhat successful screenplay is 
accomplished..we have decided (amongst ourselves of course) that Julian 
Sands and Daniel Day Lewis should play the main characters.  No one else. 


So there.
 
Anyone else care to dally with this topic?
 
                                    Thank you and good night,
 
                                    Melantha

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From: ramage@ece.scarolina.edu (Dan Ramage)
Subject: Re: DarkShadows (1991)
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:36:12 GMT

rrulli@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Rebecca Rulli) writes:

>I loved the 1991 series of Dark Shadows and was very upset when they
>took it off the air.  I used to sit every Friday night, with my mother
>and father, and watch it.  Eventually I would like to see the original
>but don't have the cash to start renting the videos.

>Rebecca

If you get the sci-fi channel, they show the original Dark Shadows.
I assume they are still showing it, but our wonderful cable tv company
decided to scramble the channel.  Trying to charge for a commercial
tv station, boy that's a real pisser.

Dan



Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: shipley@peyote.tfs.com (Peter Shipley)
Subject: vampire music
Followup-To: shipley@utter.dis.org
Keywords: music vamp girlschool
Organization: Processed People for a Processed America
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:32:25 GMT



"Take a bite" by Girlschool


Track five "Love at first bite"

I was feeling Reastless on a saturday night
wondering what to do
So I took a walk under blood red skies
when a voice said  I'm hungery for you
I wanna make a withdrawel at your blood bank baby
Wont you be my blood donor it will drive you crazy
all I wanna do is get my teeth into you tonight

He said
Love at first bite I'm a sucker for you

My blood ran cold I was hypnotised
one look set mu heart on fire
I never had night like this before
a victim of a strange desire
I wanna make a withdrawel at your blood bank baby
Wont you be my blood donor it will drive you crazy
all I wanna do is get my teeth into you tonight

Love at first bite I'm a sucker for you

i was out for the count, we were out for blood
won't you take me to the vampire feast
just get me a drink
don't be a pain in the neck
and make it a bloody mary for me


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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:32:22 GMT

In article <forb0004.171.725482222@student.tc.umn.edu> forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis ) writes:
>In article <1992Dec26.065817.20215@netcom.com> alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec25.173039.3631@nic.csu.net> beth@nermal.SantaRosa.Edu (Beth Winegarner) writes:
>>>>I think, we forgot to mention that there is NO sexual acts
>>>>on the part of the vampires.  There is sensuality, which is
>>>>an artistic view of the beauty within the persons included 
>>>>in her books.  Never once did I read that intercourse took 
>>>>place with a vampire with the victims or the other vampires.
>>>>Mac
>>>
>>>Who says homosexuality exists in the sexual act alone?  It doesn't; and if
>>>you read the biography of Anne Rice ("Prism of the Night" by Katherine
>>>Ramsland, a must for any Rice fan) you'll see that some of her vampires are
>>>mirrors for the gays she knew while she lived in San Francisco.  Whether or
>>>not they're sexually active has nothing to do with it (Rice's vampires
>>>cann't have real sexual intercourse, anyways); but in her books, the sharing
>>>of blood is a metaphor for the sexual act (penetration... sharing of juices..
>>>the passion, etc...).  Not only that, but the clear affection between
>>>several of the male vampires more than suggests homoeroticism.
>> 
>>I think homoeroticism is a better word, in general, than homosexuality, 
>>because it really embodies the spirit of "sexual preference." Sensuality 
>>is a big part of eroticism, preference, and all that.
>>
>One objection: Homoeroticism implies eroticism directed to members of the 
>same gender, whereas Rice's vampires appreciate the sensuality of, and drink 
>from, both genders. "Bierotic" sounds too ugly; perhaps erotic will do. 

Yeah, I was struggling with "Bierotic" when I wrote my post, and finally 
decided that it wouldn't work (as a word, only!). I do, whoever, think that 
Rice's vampires are a little biased toward the same gender...of course, few 
bisexual folk are 50/50 in their preferences, so a bias one way or another 
would make sense. And, you have to think of the time, as well, when someone 
was made a vampire -- what kind of trust was there between genders during 
their human years? It might be more natural for Lestat or Louis to turn to a 
man anyway, especially without what we (humans) define as "sexual acts" 
muddying the waters.

Just some thoughts.

Alexandria
From: mcelroy@bu.edu (Carl Mackin)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: I'm a hypocrite (Was Re: VAMPIRES ARE FOR FAGS!)
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:38:15 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I would love to receive the "DARK GIFT".  My ambitions would be 
close to, if not the same as, Lestat.
I find truth in his character.
Mac
From: mcelroy@bu.edu (Carl Mackin)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:21:16 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I think, we forgot to mention that there is NO sexual acts
on the part of the vampires.  There is sensuality, which is
an artistic view of the beauty within the persons included 
in her books.  Never once did I read that intercourse took 
place with a vampire with the victims or the other vampires.
Mac

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: brian@gab.unt.edu (Brian "Drakula" Stone)
Subject: RE:  Vampyre Fangs in the DFW-Metroplex??
Organization: College of Arts and Sciences
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:10:38 GMT

>I have heard of a gentleman in Dallas Texas who will manufacture
>professional quality dental prosthetics for those of us not
>lucky enough to acquire them by the dark gift.  Has anyone used his
>services?  As the process is expensive, I would like some feedback
>before undergoing the procedure.
>

Well... I can attest to the fact that there is a place in Dallas that it is 
done.  Last Halloween while walking down the biggest block party in Dallas I 
saw a pack of people with them.  I myself was in a "traditional-Bela-Lugosi-
type-in-the-movies" vampyre costume with medallion, cape, etc. etc, but the 
teeth I had simply slipped over mine and I didn't like them as well.  (I did 
win first prize at the costume constest though!  And damned well I did too, 
it took 2.5 hours to put on my make-up.)

Anyway, I saw the teeth and asked about them and was told that it was none 
of my concern and that the place where they got them wasn't for just anyone.

Well, my feelings hurt, I quickly extended the middle finger of my right 
hand and turned on my heels and rejoined my entourage with a flash of fang 
and a flutter of cape.  *gag me with drama*

So... if you do find out about it (and the teeth are amazingly realistic I 
can attest to that) please let the Net know.

Later....


drax@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (a.k.a.) brian@gab.unt.edu
From: adrian@anarky.tch.org (Adrian)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: NightLife
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 19:16:18 PST
Organization: The Canned Ham, San Jose, CA.

alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North) writes:

> Videotape me watching TV in a white negligee by candlelight?? :^)
> 
But of course!  Vamps would pay money for this (those rumors of
your considerable beauty having something to do with this, no
doubt ;-^).

Yes, it's me, Adrian, originator of that original droolage post...
(alt.vampyres feed is down on The Enclave & Darkside until Mon.)

-- A
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: beth@nermal.SantaRosa.Edu (Beth Winegarner)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Interview Movie
Date: 26 Dec 92 01:38:30 GMT
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA

>in consideration of the Claudia character.  I cannot think of a single 
>child actress who could handle such a complex role.  Would the screenplay 
>merely alter the charater's original nature and keep her a "vampire 
>child" instead of maturing the character's mind (and thus bringing into 
>play a lot of child pornography cries from the Religious Right and etc.)?

Well, unfortunately, from what I've heard, the prospective producers of
such a film are more concerned with the latter than the former.  They've
felt that having someone correctly present Cluadia would indeed threaten
society's morality about child pornography, fictional and real.  They
wouldn't care about having a good actress play her.  Rice would, though.
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 11:55:01 EST
From: <CBTCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Forever Knight Listserv
Distribution: usa

Hi.  Don't think my original request got through.  Can someone please repost
the info on the FK Listserver?  Like, how to subscribe, etc?  Thanks,

Happy New Year!

Chris
From: nadja@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (nadja)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Final Stabbing Sigh...
Keywords: Jack
Date: 28 Dec 92 02:46:19 GMT
Organization: "The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California

Mercy! These late-night fiends seem to be bored enough to conjure up 
further delusions of unknown, anonymous, once-innocent newcomers to 
'alt.vampyres'!!! Can we perhaps let this tired, cadaverous neck-slashing 
bilge dissipate into an otherwise agreeable violet-mist sky tonight???
I have not, and refuse to imagine, met Jack Deth, nor have I taken the 
grey role of a "Babes" jet-setter....... "nadja" is a literary figure, 
not my given name, but one intended for my fingertips and the sparse or 
congested words they impart.  My own flesh, or its description, is so far 
beyond reference to this realm by now.....Do care to step aside, Mr.Deth, 
I would wish not to puncture your coarse skin, my tastes run much more 
real than that........         

                   Rippers be Damned, let me rest
                                  nadja

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis )
Subject: Witching Hour sequel?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:22:14 GMT

Looking at the chronology in _Prism of the Night_ (Rice biography), I see:

1992 _The Tale of the Body Thief_ is published by Knopf.
     
     Ballantine releases _The Feast of All Saints_ in trade paperback.

     Anne writes the sequel to _The Witching Hour_ and the script for the 
     film based on _Interview With the Vampire_


I've heard about the movie- can't wait- but don't remember anything about 
the sequel to _The Witching Hour_. It's not in local bookstores yet, though 
I haven't checked Books In Print. I recently finished _WH_ and am filled 
with questions...
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From: adrian@west.darkside.com (Adrian)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Dance of the Damed
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:34:10 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

shipley@peyote.tfs.com (Peter Shipley) writes:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> has anyone seen the move "dance of the damed" (1988?) 
> it has a intresting alterate "vampire" (a co-species that looks
> human for survival reasions, non-infectious bites etc).
> 
> I give the move three stars.
> 
> --
> ---------------
> Pete Shipley:
> email: shipley@berkeley.edu             Flames:  cimarron@postgres.berkeley.e
> Spelling corections: /dev/null          Quote: "Anger is an energy"

Yeah, I have.  Pretty good flick.

I hear it's being remade.  Don't know why; the first one was
good as is.  Loved the vamp jumping and spinning into the stairwell
like he did.  You know right off you're in for a pleasant surprise.

-- A

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