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From: lksmith@truth.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: Re: premiere
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.161638.16535@tamsun.tamu.edu> jps4800@tamsun.tamu.edu (John Parrish Schweers) writes:


(...)

>
>The show never even implied Maggie slept with Arthur, so he didn't belong
> at the picnic.  Somebody asked if Chris had slept with Maggie in the
> episode where he lost his voice.  He did ask her, and she said yes, but they
> never did.   They acted like they did because the whole town was keeping 
> vigil outside of Maggie's house.
>


Last night at a wonderful new enormous Barnes & Noble bookstore here in
the suburbs of Boston (I'd gone looking for the NX calendar, which they
had) I saw an intriguingly titled new novel:  _The Woman Who Married a
Bear:  An Alaskan Mystery_.  Author is something like John Staley or 
Straley, I think.  He lives in the (real) town where the mystery is
set -- Sitka, I think it was.  He worked with horses before he moved
to Alaska, but since the town has few horses (moose don't count, I
guess) he became a criminal investigator, and now a mystery writer.
He sounds eccentric enough to fit right in with Cicely.


Linda Smith
lksmith@truth.mitre.org
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Monday's "Midnight Sun" episode.
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:01:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

Is it just me, or does the guy who sold the clothes sound
like the narrator for Disney nature films?
-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
  - I'm not a well adjusted person, but I play one on the net.
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: John Collum
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:44:32 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <rizzoe.274.717888406@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU>, rizzoe@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Emily Rizzo) writes:
> 
> I'm new to this group so please forgive me if this is a question which 
> has been raised before (and yes I did read the FAQ).
> 
> Is John Cullum, the actor who plays Holling Vincoeur, the same one who 
> appeared over 20 years ago in a tv spy series, can't remember the name but 
> he (at least I think it was he) played the Russian sidekick, Illyia 
> Kuriakin (sp), of an American named Napoleon Solo.  It was actually quite a 
> good series, as I recall.  Anyone out there old enough to remember?
> 
> Emily 

I'm afraid you're confusing John Collum with David McCallum, who played
Illya Kuryakin in The Man From UNCLE.  John Collum has a very distinguished
career in film and theatre, but as far as I know, he never appeared on
that particular TV show.

BTW, does anybody know who Mr. Collum played in 1776?  My roommate thinks
it was the custodian (McNair, RUM!), but I say he was too young at the
time.
-- 

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From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson)
Subject: Re: Midnight Sun Episode
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:56:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.001543.29524@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lw2c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Levi  Wallach) writes:

>Finally, why doesn't there seem to be any Alaskan's who subscribe to this
>group?  Don't tell me noone has access to Usenet and/or watched NEXP
>up there?

Hi!

Greetings from an ex-Alaskan. (I lived there for a while as a little
kid). I can watch NEXP here in Sweden, but since it just recently
started here, we're watching the first season's shows.
--
Per Danielsson				pd@sics.se
Swedish Institute of Computer Science, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
From: cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Murphy Brown v. Dan Quayle
Date: 26 Sep 92 06:23:29 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Sep22.214625.25729@news.acns.nwu.edu>, velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
> 
> Hey... is there a Murphy newsgroup?  There should be!!!
> 


I don't think so, but there's alt.fan.dan-quayle which might as well be,
recently :-)
From: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dick Cleek)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Date: 29 Sep 1992 14:50:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Originator: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <harris.717764458@drvax3>, by harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris):
> The season premier was pretty good, but now I have a question. When
> Maggie went camping, I noticed she didn't even have a gun with her.
> Aren't there alot of bears roaming around Alaska (or am I victim of a
> stereotype)?

I'm afraid you are the victim of a stereotype. As long as you make plenty
of noise they almost always  run away.
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From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: Where is the Town of Cicely in Alaska?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 05:19:09 GMT

klaes@verga.enet.dec.com (Larry Klaes) writes:

>        My impression is that Cicely is rather far north of Fairbanks,
>    deep in the physical and spiritual heart of Alaska.

It can't be too far north of Fairbanks, as we have seen daytime in midwinter.
--
Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson
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From: hwnunes@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henry Walter Nunes)
Subject: Monday's "Midnight Sun" episode.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 23:09:15 GMT

I hope I am wrong, but seeing the previews/promos of Monaday nights episode, and from what I have read, this story line about the 'Midnight Sun' making everyone go a little more crazy than normal sounds a lot like a spin-off of NX's popular "Spring Break" episode, where the impending break of the ice pack makes the townfolk go a little wierd.

I just want to see what their excuse is going to be to say that Cicely is located in the arctic circle when all along, Cicely apparently had normal day and night periods.

I'll be watching.
	
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From: lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU (Hans L'Orange)
Subject: Re: characters amiss
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:22:20 GMT

<MMB3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>I agree, I thought that a number of people were off.
>  And it is not just misunderstanding depth of characterization with
>inconsistency.  The characters have been on a developmental trajectory
>and some of them were behaving as if they hadn't grown as much as we
>have seen them.
>   I don't think Ruthanne would have broken the tape recorder.  She is too
>mature.  Her character, as the wise one, would have had a number of behavioral
>choices, some devious and biting, that did not involve destroying another
>person's property.  She doesn't have much patience for Maurice in general,
>it just seemed that the writers got lazy and had her break it, because
>it is what everyone was probably thinking of doing.  She just doesn't strike
>me as someone who would do that.


I enjoyed these twists.  The characters, like all "real" people, dont always
do what we expect them to do.  These shifts make them more realistic to me.

Hans

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From: hirota@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Jon Hirota)
Subject: "Cicely" Episode poem
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:50:07 GMT

Hello out there, 

Last night whilst watching the new "Midnight Sun" episode, Joel's Basketball
poem sparked a general debate among the group of Northern Exposure fans I watch
the show with concerning the text of the poem recited by young Ned (played
by Darren Burrows) in last season's finale, "Cicely."  Does anyone out there
have the complete text of the poem Ned recited in the Cafe?

Thanks,
Jon Hirota, University of Colorado at Boulder.
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From: merrillg@polari.online.com
Subject: 'Rugged' Lesbians
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 02:10:51 GMT

I think we are all concentrating on Roslyn of the Cicly-Roslyn couple
Let us not forget Cicily, who had anything but a rugged constitution/
physical stature; she was the antithesis of this in fact.  

Cicily was dying near the end of the show, and it was her who was primarily
the prime mover in creating and fostering the alter-Ed's poetic abilities

This definately does not fit the 'I don't shave my legs lesbian'
stereo-type

merrillg@polari


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From: drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu (Douglas J Renze)
Subject: Re: The opener
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:35:14 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North) writes:

>In article <91033@netnews.upenn.edu> egedi@ahwenasa.cis.upenn.edu (Dania M. Egedi) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep30.151901.20358@news.acns.nwu.edu>, velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
>>|> In article <1992Sep30.080813@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov> z8tah@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov  writes:
>>|> >> had to date:  Maggie.  I'm gonna unzip your pants and pull them down.
>>|> >> Now don't go getting yourself all excited.
>>|> >
>>|> >Interesting but I thought he said ..." I'll try not to get excited." 
>>|> >
>>|> >What did other people hear?
>>|> 
>>|> "Try not to get turned on."
>>
>>Try not to get too excited.
>>
>>Anybody that taped it have the defintive word?

>I watched it again last night. BTW, he said that he was going to unzip 
>her trousers (exact word) and pull them over her hips. But the next 
>part was hard to hear. Either he said "I'll try not to get too excited" 
>or "Now, try not to get too excited." I'm not sure.

>Oh, great, now I'm questioning whether or not "too" was in that sentence.
>I should have written it down!

I taped it and listened to it over and over...he said, "I'll try not to
get too excited."  Think a moment, this is in keeping with the tension
between him and Maggie, no?  She would (normally) have accused him of
taking some sort of perverse pleasure in what he had to do (taking her
pants off).

Peace,

Doug
-- 
| Douglas J Renze            | "Jerry [Brown] is the equivalent of a          |
| drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu     |  drive-by shooting."                           |
| drenze@chop.isca.uiowa.edu |                                                |
| drenze@aol.com             |         * NPR's Morning Edition, 13 July 1992  |


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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: NEXP On Saturdays?
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:44:36 GMT


Well, here NEXP airs at 9pm local time, so it hasn't yet been affected,
usually it's the shows on at 7 or 8pm
.

Simon

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From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: blatant advertising (was: Canoe last night)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 20:49:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom

winkeler@natinst.com (Keith Winkeler) writes:
>In article <BvC6sy.JI0.2@cs.cmu.edu> br@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>>
>>    he could even afford it.  Were the props people too lazy to
>>    find a canoe to fit Ed, or is this a product placement
>>    scheme?  What other examples of product placement have
>>    folks noticed?  Apple Macs, certainly.
>
>Did you notice one of the beers being sold at the Brick? Anchor
>Steam Beer. 

They also spent alot of time showing the two bottles of Kraft
salad dressing.  they must have decided that it's time to
start milking this show for all the money they can get.




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Alaskan Bears
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:20:14 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>As for avoiding
>or driving off bears, one of the best methods, is to have a dog with 
>you.

We had a small dachshund barking (well, yapping) at the cabin screen
door in the sierras.  Turned out a bear was out there in the distance.
After watching our dog nearly work itself into a frenzy, we opened
the screen door, and the dog took off barking.  About ten feet from
the door, the dog put on the brakes, looked over his shoulder and
noticed we weren't following.  Turned, tucked tail, and dove for the
door.  Hardly a peep out of him the rest of the night...
-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
  - I'm not a well adjusted person, but I play one on the net.
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: changing the world
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 06:33:28 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep24.205440.15871@news.acns.nwu.edu>
velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
>I wrote:
>>In article <1992Sep24.152741.9210@news.acns.nwu.edu>
>>velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
>
>>>Flying a plane is "tough" work (you'd never catch ME doing it;
>>>I hate to fly), and can be seen as independent
>
>I'm not sure I understand you.  Are you saying Maggie doesn't appear tough
>just because we don't see her flying her plane every week?  does she have to
>be seen flying every week?  That makes no sense.  We know the plane's there;
>we know that it's part of her job.  I don't see where my mother works every
>day, but I know she does...

You gave the example of flying.  I amplified that.  I think Charlie
elaborated some on this (nice job).  Do you want other examples? or can
you think of a couple of others without my observations?

>Yeah, and it's a whole new jungle out there.
>
>Do you have a problem with object permanence?  Or are we just confusing
>definitions?  The words I used in my post were borrowed from another person's

Naw, not really.  I have a copy of Piaget right here next to me.

>post, and I didn't feel like making up new words.  Hence, I used "tough" and
>"independent."  I certainly did not mean "tough" as "roughing it out in the
>wilderness with a rifle."  I meant it as more of a characte trait in general. 
>"Tough" as in "not passive."  Maggie is not passive.  I won't even address the
>"credibility" question because it just makes me mad, and I would rather not
>get involved in a flame war.  Suffice to quote Dylan, "Don't criticize what
>you don't understand."

My choice (of observation).  The writers have developed her character as
a person seeking a form of dependence: be it interdependence or co-dependence.
Neither is independence.  While the character is fine for TV, she is not
Alaska.  Maybe a TV version of tough or independent, but other F characters
show far more toughness and independence in my opinion.  You are welcome
to like her.  I don't regard her as "passive."  As a character, Turner
is trying to show some of the self-doubt inherent in a lot of modern
people.  Fine for TV.  That's okay, I have other characters I can
watch (even Chris 8^).
Dylan?  You should be able to do better than my favorite D songs, if
you understood me (not a flame).

One thing which I think is unusual is the relatively large percentage of
women (Maggie and Eve) who appear to come from more confortable/material
society.  I think this is something to watch.  It's like a magic card.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Acting Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
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From: pcl@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Chiao Liu)
Subject: Re: Maggie Cover Story
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 05:06:39 GMT

Hi,

I read the article, and it says absolutely nothing about Janine
Turner having dated Sylvester Stallone, only that she plays opposite
him in an upcoming movie. Just the thought of Maggie and Rambo
together, ughh!

Just a gut reaction.

Paul Liu
pcl@power.stanford.edu
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From: me@naranja-next.Stanford.EDU (My Account)
Subject: Re: Janine Turner in Chevy Commerical
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 22:25:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.115834.2802@nic.csu.net>  writes:
> In article <25565@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, dooley@oasys.dt.navy.mil  
(Katherine Dooley) writes:
> |> Keeping up with the Where did I see Janine Turner...
> |> 
> |> She has shown up recently on a Chevy Commerical,
> |> not looking like a bush pilot, but like the
> |> model that she once was.

While watching Stanford crush Nortre Dame in my dorm's lounge, I noticed  
that when ever Janine's Chevy commercial came on, the group watching would  
start to laugh and chuckle... not the reaction Chevy was hoping for...

	this is me, but its not!
	hwnunes@leland.stanford.edu
From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: KBHR origin
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:11:19 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Wayne Broughton writes:

My apologies if some completely obvious or well-known answer
is eluding me, but what is the significance if any of the call
letters BHR in the radio station name KBHR?  (That is what it
is called, isn't it?)  Are they just random?  Do they have some
significance to Cicely, or Maurice, or something?  Or are they
some inside secret of the show's creators?

Well, Wayne, KBHR is pronounced Kay-Bear on the show, I guess
it just sounds nice and Woodsy, also don't forget that in
Native American mythology the Bear, like other animals has
a spiritual value attached to it.  I don't know what this
value is, perhaps that is why KBHR.

If somebody has any idea as to the significance of Bears
in Native American mythology, by all means let us know.

Chris in Montreal
tsirbac@brise.ere.umontreal.ca
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From: franks@synoptics.com (Frank Stutzman)
Subject: Re: NX Premiere "Northwest Passages"
Reply-To: franks@synoptics.com
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:15:40 GMT

In article K2E@encore.com, tflynn@encore.com (Tonya Flynn) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.164651.1249@u.washington.edu> iho@cac.washington.edu 
>My immediate thought was that this "annual" examination might be
>part of the annual physical required for her pilot's license.

Possible, but I think its unlikely.    Not just any MD can administer an Airmans
medical, the FAA has certain requirements that must be met in order to be an
AME (Airmans Medical Examiner, or something like that).  I rather doubt that
Joel ever got such certification (not much call for it in his loft NY plans and 
not that mucyh call for it in Cicely).  Also an airmans medical never (in my
experiance) involves blood tests, althought this may be different when flying
as a commerical pilot (I've only a private pilots license a the exam for that
isn't much more than checking your eye site and blood pressure).

Now if I can only figure out what kinda plane Maggie flys.  Looks like a 
Cessna 140, but thats a pretty wimpy bush plane.

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From: Bucky.Whaley@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: NEXP - Info found about Toy Cows!!
Summary: But not by me...
Date: 1 Oct 92 06:38:04 GMT
Organization: The Lutefisk Watch

Forwarded from rec.arts.tv in case someone here missed it:

In article <1992Oct1.001818.11129@news.clarkson.edu> AAron@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (AAron nAAs) writes:
>I found it!!!
>Though I didn't find the cure for cancer as some thought I might :(
>You may not believe this but...
>
>I subscribed to the Cle Elum Tribune (Roslyn's local newspaper),
>I called Roslyn Town Hall to find the number of a specific person I saw
>in the paper,
>I called that person who gave me the number of Pipeline Productions,
>I called Pipeline Productions who gave me the number of they LA office,
>I called their LA office who told me
>
>The name of the song is....
>      "Toy Cows In Africa"   Not very helpful since everyone looked
>that up and could not find it.
>
>The name of the group is...
>      _Chance_
>
>The song...
>      Is not on any released album...
>
>They gave me the number of the group and said that I could probably get
>the song for a price...
>I called that number and left a message on an answering machine, and
>have not heard back from them yet.
>
>I will write more when I hear from them.
>
>AAron@sun.soe.clarkson.edu


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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: "Season Premiere"
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:44:46 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Broughton, Wayne Jeremy (waynebro@juliet.caltech.edu) wrote:
: I wonder if anyone wants to comment on my remark in a previous post 
: that Steve himself might have been an illness-induced dream.  Any 
: ideas?  

   My personal theory is that Steve is/was real.  He did, uh, "date" Maggie
sometime before she moved to Alaska, and died in an unusual way.  These facts
were known to Maggie but she didn't conciously remember.  Perhaps sometime
right after she first moved to Cicely her mother or father had casually
mentioned the death of the son of a neighbor.  In other words it would
be very easy for Steve to be another victim of the "curse".
   I still laugh when I remember the scene where the woman was trying to 
fix Maggie up with here husband shortly after Rick died.

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