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From: 2ck1racicr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: the omar clone
Date: 16 Nov 1992 07:03:21 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2ck1racicr@vms.csd.mu.edu
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The Omar clone at MU has the most annoying laugh. You can't
describe it but you can hear it down the hall. People on the 
phone hear it. It is sort of Pee-wee hermanish. Haeawt Haeawt.
Damn I want to rip his Godamned forsakened lungs out. There it 
is again. Arrrrgh. 

				One of the many annoyed
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: sieber@fraser.sfu.ca (Dirk Sieber)
Subject: Re: Crime Stories
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:36:09 GMT

In article <OLDMAN.92Nov21151650@titan.ucc.umass.edu> oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) writes:
>
>	At UMass, they aren't Public Safety, they're POLICE.  That is,
>they're officers with the State of Massachusetts Police Force.  Oh
>boy, imagine getting a speeding ticket on campus...
>--
>Tig Stone 
>(oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu)

Don't laugh, it happens at the Univeristy of Victoria all the time.
There's been a lot of mornings where I've driven around campus, and
seen someone getting a ticket.  It's not campus security though, the
local police dept actually comes up just to issue speeding tickets...

			-=<Dirk>=-

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Folklore I remember
Keywords: X-Halls, serial killers, stupid freshmen
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:29:36 GMT

In <Bxtnwu.2v6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> durrant@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:

>	When I was a freshman, I remember a story that ran rampant in the
>all-women's dorm I lived (and still live) in.  A few days before Holloween,
>the whole dorm (or at least every freshman woman) heard that a friend of a
>friend was cutting class the day before and was watching Donahue when they saw
>the story of a Holloween serial killer.  Apparently, 25 years before, he had
>murdered a woman living in an X shaped hall (of which there are only a few in
>the US--one of which is Meredith Hall at Purdue).  Her roommate had come home
>late the night before, to find all the lights out and her roommate asleep on thebed.  Being a considerate roommate, she got ready for bed and went to sleep all
>without turning on a light.  The  only weird thing was there was this dripping
>sound--but that could have been the radiator just making noise.

>	In the morning, of course, she found her roommate stabbed and mutilated
>on the bed, with "Aren't you glad you didn't turn on the light?" written in
>blood on the wall.  The man was found and sent to jail, but was being paroled.
>He had vowed to kill another woman in an X-Hall, and since Purdue has one of thefew, it was a pretty good chance he'd end up here.

>	Does every college have these tall tales?  What are the ones from 
>different schools like?

Funny you should ask--I just heard a different version of that same story.
Same "punchline," which I think is a good word for it, cuz they seem like jokes
to me.  Here's the version I heard:

In this one dorm (the one in which the girl telling the honest-this-is-true-
horror-story/joke is living, of course), it seems a few years ago a girl came
back from a party just to get something from her room.  She ordinarilly turns
on the lights (The question I ask is, "Who doesn't usually turn on the lights
in the dark at night?"), but this time, she thought her roommate was sleeping,
so she left them off.  She got whatever-it-was and went bak to the party.  When
she got back, her roommate was dead in bed, and written on the mirror in her
roommate's blood was (all together now), "Aren't you glad you didn't turn on
the lights?"

Might be kinda fun to play a practical joke sometime and write that in ketchup/
fake blood on someone's mirror or something.  Hmmm....
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: Some Real Folklore
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:13:48 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <27560@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
|> jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
[stuff deleted]
|>   +Does anybody know the suicide rates for the 18-24 age group?
|> 
|> I don't have national data for the 18-24 age group but for the 
|> 15-24 age group in 1988 there were approximately 4,900 total deaths
|> from suicide.  The national rate of suicide based on 1989 data is 
|> 13.2 per 100,000 for this age group.  BTW, the rate of death by 
|> suicide for North Dakota is 10.6 per 100,000.  Which is on the 
|> low side.
|> 
|> Several possibilities come to mind:  
|> 
|>   - UND students commit suicide, but only those from out of state
|>     where it's less likely to be reported.  Of course, these are
|>     less likely to be reported as suicides to the general campus
|>     population. [I don't know the number of out of state students 
|>     for UND, but I would expect it to be relatively low.]

Actually somewhat high.  The aviation school at UND is probably
the best in the country, and most Aviation students are from out 
of state (about 2000 from out of state).

|>   - You were there during a string of good years where the student
|>     population earned a relatively high GPA thus obviating the
|>     need for "suicides."

Large freshman class when I started, much smaller the next semester.
UND is an "open-admission" college, so there were a lot of people
who did fairly poorly and dropped out after first semester.

|>   - Everyone was stoned during that period and thus saw no need 
|>     for suicide (and probably couldn't competently execute any 
|>     plans to do so if they felt so inclined).

That is entirely possible.  

|>   - UND is a secret alien base populated by aliens with incredibly 
|>     robust constitutions and excellent dexterity thus you were the
|>     person wondering about suicide.

That is also possible.  Grand Forks Air Force Base is about twelve
miles away.  Lots of missiles and bombers.  Maybe it was a spy
station?

But five years?  There should have been One???

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From: 2b98pronovic@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ken Pronovici)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: zb: Weird Building Names...
Date: 23 Nov 1992 00:16:52 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2b98pronovic@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu


>University of Wisconsin?... University of Wisconsin???  Why there when
>they are about 80 miles from Milwaukee.  No, the best place for that dorm
>(excuse me again Residence Hall) would be here at at Marquette.  Right
>now I'm sitting about 6 blocks from his old apartment.  Friends of
>mine lived about 2 blocks from him in a university hall while he was still
>running around.
>let's take a vote from all MU students reading this:
>Should we rename West Hall to the Dahmer Memorial Hall?
>Results posted later......
>
>
>Bill O'Connor               | In the course of human events, there is
>Marquette University        | always one person who will screw things
>Milwaukee, WI               | up.
>2429OCONNORW@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU |


	Hell, yeah!  As long as the university bought (and razed) his
	old apartment, we may as well have _something_ named after him!!

			Muffin Man



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From: swartzjh@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Omar again!
Date: 15 Nov 1992 17:40:42 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: swartzjh@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Nov15.113144.20178@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>Not sure if this is an Omar story, but:
>
>Friday 11/13 at around 15:45 or so local time I was in the UTSA computer
>lab and on a lark logged on the IRC and started checking out channels.
>Well, I hit channel 3 and laneded right in the middle of a discussion
>between a user named Pekka in Norway and a user named....OMAR!
>The time this Omar gave as his local time was 14:45 (EST), so could this
>have been the infamous Omar who is so often talked about in this
>newsgroup??
>Simon

Hmmm... not sure...  If it was 15:45 in texas, it should have been 16:45 here
in Indiana.  We do not do the daylight savings thing in this part of Indiana,
so were are on central time during the summer, and eastern time during the
winter.  Next time you see him, ask him where he is...  If he says Rose Hulman
Institute of Technology, then it IS HIM!!!  

Hey Daemon...  This could be our first Omar sighting...


		Jeff Swartz

Xref: sparky alt.folklore.college:3097 alt.folklore.urban:29128
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Crime Stories
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:33:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NOWHERE MAN) writes:

  +>One of our Public Safety officers told a few interesting stories
  +>over the summer:
  +>
  +>	A group of girls had left their room unlocked one day. 
  +>Someone came in and left a note saying if they did it again, he 
  +>would come back and clean the place out. Suffice it to say the message
  +>was left un heeded. The following night he came in, robbed them blind,
  +>and even tapped each one of them to try to wake them up. They didn't
  +>even realize what had happened until the next afternoon.

Quoting the above, thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
  +
  +Sounds like a Classic (tm) Urban Legend.  I've crossposted to a.f.u.
  +so that the Terries can weigh in on it.

Sorry, my newsreader doesn't allow me to directly reply to posts where 
the people mentioned outweigh me and aren't even properly referred to 
as "co-eds" to boot.

Terry "Smells like an UL to me" Chan
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Omar again!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:40:50 GMT

In article <1eihf4INNsl1@morrow.stanford.edu> techie@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Bob Vaughan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.033507.20401@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Not sure if this is an Omar story, but:
>>>>
>>>>Friday 11/13 at around 15:45 or so local time I was in the UTSA computer
>>>>lab and on a lark logged on the IRC and started checking out channels.
>>>>Well, I hit channel 3 and laneded right in the middle of a discussion
>>>>between a user named Pekka in Norway and a user named....OMAR!
>>>>The time this Omar gave as his local time was 14:45 (EST), so could this
>>>>have been the infamous Omar who is so often talked about in this
>>>>newsgroup??
>>>>Simon
>>>
>>Sorry about the typo-I meant 16:45 as the time given by this 'Omar' on the
>>IRC.  I have trouble using the IRC when logged in from my home PC (bad modem
>>software, lousy terminal emulation) so I'll be in the computer lab on Friday.
>>Now, what do I do if it is indeed the infamous Omar?? Is he really as bad as
>>you all say he is??      Simon
>
>I just checked with nickserv (the IRC nickname server), and the nickname
>"Omar" is registered to someone at princeton.. So, no, it's not him..
>
The IRC was dead last Friday afternoon (11/20), and I left early (to go see
my girlfriend :-) )  so I didn't run into.  Oh well.

Now, I have some amusing stories about two guys I know, that are similar to
the other Omar/annoying person stories posted here, although they didn't
occur in the college world.  So, would they be appropriate here??
( I posted this before but I don't know if they got read)
Simon
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: I could've figured this would happen
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:23:40 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

res_ewv@exodus.valpo.edu wrote:

: I've been reading this Omar-bashers bashing and not quite knowing what to
: think, but I find myself in complete agreement with Daemon here.  Whether or
: not Omar is arrogant and a pain in the ass; whether or not these are racist
: attacks (I would have to say probably not); and whether or not these are
: malicious postings; the most malicious thing I could think of would be to
: inform Omar about this. [...]
: 
: This was a real dick move. Sure, you may have slammed Daemon and his buddies,
: but think of yourself receiving an e-mail message saying "Read this newsgroup
: and you will see exactly what other people think of you."  

i hadn't wanted to get involved in this again (especially since i have
about a three-day newsfeed lag) but this post struck me as slightly
missing the point.

i understand your anger at whoever mailed him, but it seems to me a
bit unfair to blame that person for omar's pain. okay, so it wasn't
nice to tell him what people were doing, but was it nice for the
original posters to publicly ridicule omar in the first place? you
can't shift the burden of responsibility from the people who wrote the
original posts to the person who told omar to read the posts. had the
first not occurred, the second wouldn't have, either, and omar would
have been spared a very painful experience.

i think the problem here is that (from what i've heard; i didn't see
the original posting) a mildly amusing story was posted and received a
positive response. this encouraged the original posters to find more
funny things to say about omar, and as they continued, the resentment
they feel toward him was expressed more and more. they crossed the
line into being just plain cruel. that, i think, was what ted frank
was reacting to; racism charges were just a side issue that's been
blown upand obscured the basic pack-mentality, junior-high ingroup
cruelty.

it may have been a disservice for whoever emailed omar to have done
so. but i think daemeon and his friends should keep in mind that the
net is a public place, and anything you say about other people in
public is likely to get back to them. stop ranting at the person who
emailed omar to read this group and deal with your own responsibility
for what happened.

daemeon, what started out as just good fun become cruelty and
insensitivity. regardless of what your intent was, regardless of the
provocation omar gave you, regardless of how confident you were that
he'd never read this newsgroup, YOU are the ones who ultimately caused
omar the pain he now feels. you can't escape that by blaming the
person who told him to read the group.

it won't be easy to accept your share of the blame, but if you manage
it, you'll be a lot closer to growing up. part of maturity is being
able to admit that you've made a mistake.

--
sine nomine   | what's red and invisible?
deb martinson | no tomatoes.
From: mortoncp@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Jive autobiography and RHIT bashing
Date: 16 Nov 1992 20:38:56 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: mortoncp@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Nov16.160838.28215@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) writes:
>
>As far as we've been able to tell, the campus sport at Rose-Hulman
>Institute of Technology is playing tricks on the hearing-impaired. 
>Apparently they're tiring of this and moving on to racism.  Ha ha, those
>Rose-Hulman guys just crack me up! Not.
>
>
Okay, folks.  I am one of the Rose-Hulman guys that reads and has posted 
regarding Omar.  There have been a LOT of flames back and forth that are
totally uncalled for (in both directions).  I'll just try to clear a few things 
up here.  Even if some of you don't believe me.

We DO NOT play tricks on Omar because he's hearing-impaired.  Just ask Ryan
Moore who posted here earlier.  We also do not pick on Omar because he's in
a minority.  There are several others here who are minorities and they don't
have tricks played on them due to racist attitudes.  

This "Jive" version of Omar's autobiography was created by running the
biography through the "Jive" filter.  It just looks for keywords and replaces
them.  Very simple program.  It is meant as humor, not racism.  In case some of
you have missed it, Omar is American.  Born and raised in Austin, Texas.  True,
his parents are Pakistani (sp?), but he's very much American.

Out of curiosity, who's this "we" that you referred to in your first line?

[cutting the reposted "Jive" version]

>>
>>Okay, so I was bored :)
>
>
>Thanks for sharing your boredom with us.  
>

Thanks for reposting the entire "Jive" version of the autobiography.

>Jerk.
>

Name calling?  On Allen?  He just posted something that he thought was funny
(and I did too).  He did not mean it as a racist posting.  If you chose to
treat is as such, that's your choice.  If anybody has any calm (and
intelligent) comments to make, I'd be glad to hear them.  General flames will
be ignored.

mortoncp@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
mortoncp@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,soc.culture.african.american
From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr)
Subject: Re: Omar: a recap of events
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:21:38 GMT

In article <1e87vmINNhia@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> henrydm@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>    To people who are having a cow: 
>    (i.e. ted frank, etc.)
>
>		Ok, let's back up a bit.  This thing seems to have taken 
>	on a life of its own.  I will recap what has occurred on this newsgroup
>	in the last 5 weeks.  I posted a story about Omar.  It was a very funny
>	story about how he forgot to log off the vax and we convinced him that
>	that a walkman could make a VT220 terminal log out.  If you haven't
>	read this, I will send you a copy since that is what started all the 
>	confusion. 
>	
>		Anyway, since I had never really written anything before,
>	I asked for feedback on the story.  I got great volumes of positive
>	e-mail in response.  Tons of people wanted to hear more of Omar.
>	So, I posted the few stories that you didn't have to observe or be
>	involved in to appreciate.  I even posted things that I didn't think
>	were very funny.  And still they wanted more.  I found Omar's .plan.
>	I posted that.  I found his bio (which, in case anyone was wondering,
>	states explicity that anyone can have a copy).  Some bored people,
>	(I know they were bored because they told me.) ran his bio through a
>	jive filter and posted the result.  
>
>		I am not a racist.  I believe that racial jokes are not racist.

Interesting point of view.  So long as you don't mean to hurt anyone's
feelings, you can make all the racist jokes you want?  Am I understanding
you correctly here?

>	In order for something to be racist, it has to contain malice of some
>	form and the jive filter is certainly not malicious.  I, nor anyone
>	I have seen posting on here has made fun of Omar's Pakistani heritage.
>	There were some jokes made about the fact that Omar doesn't understand
>	everything that is said but can I help it if I find buffalo hair funny?
>	Funny is funny and I don't particularly think that I should comtemplate
>	the moral implications of every single thing that strikes me as
>	humorous.  If I did, then I probably wouldn't think it was funny 
>	anymore.
>
>		In the words of some wise person on the net: Lighten up.
>
>
>  					-henrydm@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu
>
>	(I *WAS* trying to save Omar stuff off the net but that is impossible
>	 now!)


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: george@seasnake.micro.umn.edu (Rogers George)
Subject: Re: OMAR's bio : Jive version
Keywords: girlfriend
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Distribution: us
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:14:30 GMT

[..flameage deleted..]

>... He has yet to figure out that the door-knob should be turned _before_
>attempting to open the door, especially when one is returning to the room at five
>o'clock in the morning TALKing to his girlfriend at the University of Minnesota
>(which is a regular occurance and also why he seems to have missed more than half
>of his classes this year)...
>Rob

this Omar-person has a GIRLFRIEND? at the U of MN? HERE? hmmm..
could, like, y'know, a Name perhaps be provided? hmmmm.......(evil grin)

It would be altogether too fitting if she turned out to be one of these
clueless people here who make us computer labbies' lives so hellish, er,
interesting....

-Rogers George
rgeorge@staff.tc.umn.edu

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban,alt.fan.lemurs
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: lemurs!
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:17:36 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <9211212255.08@rmkhome.UUCP>, rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
|> In article <zlsiida.448@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov16.155819.27393@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) writes:
|> >
|> >
|> >>ObLemur: Lemurs are secretly controlling the minds of alt.folklore.urban
|> >>and alt.folklore.college readers, forcing them to insert the word "lemur"
|> >>into the keywords line of their posts.
|> >
|> >Go to your nearest zoo.  Stand in front of the lemurs.  Juggle.
|> >They will be fascinated by this action, but it's a waste of time trying to 
|> >teach them how to do it.  The big cats quite like it as well, but they're 
|> >not so impressed when you drop.
|> 
|> 
|> However, my cats seem to have been watching me carefully.  I have seen them
|> on their hind legs trying to operate doorknobs.

Not if you penny them in!!

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