HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: adler@netcom.com (Bruce Adler)
Subject: Re: hayes response codes and uugetty/getty 
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:03:36 GMT

In article <6609.2b43778e@hayes.com> you write:
>With many newer modems, you can.  The "Q2" command causes the modem 
>to disable all result codes associated with answering of calls, 
>including RING, CARRIER, PROTOCOL, COMPRESSION, CONNECT, etc., but 
>leave them enabled when originating calls -- exactly what you're 
>looking for.  You don't mention what modem you have, so it's hard to 
>say whether or not it supports Q2, but it wouldn't hurt to try 
>setting it and then calling to see if you get a RING.

If I don't disable the answering result codes (i.e. Q0), does the
modem generate the CONNECT messages before or after it raises DCD?

Idle speculation follows:

	It seems to be that the if the modem raises DCD last then a correctly
	functioning Unix serial port driver would merely throw away any
	preceeding text (at least this is the way the drivers used to work).
	In fact on a port with "modem controls" enabled the receiver should
	be disabled and the receiver interrupt should be masked off when DCD
	is low to avoid extraneous interrupts.  Perhaps the original poster
	has a driver which supports the FIFO mode on the '550, but doesn't
	disable the receiver and/or flush the FIFO when DCD is asserted. This
	could cause upto 16 garbage bytes to be received.

	I expect that there are a number of versions of Unix out there that
	don't function correctly, so the Q2 feature is a pretty neat solution.

adler@netcom.com
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From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Have I been hosed?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 00:39:22 EST
Organization: Izot's Swamp

marks@netcom.com (Mark Sherred) writes:

> National has a very nice application note about the different UARTS.
> It is AN-493.  The 'F' stands for FIFO. The 'N' means a plastic package.
> At high baud rates, the PC may not always service the UART's interupt before
> a second character is received.  The NS16550AFN has a 16 byte receive FIFO
> and another 16 byte transmit FIFO.  The chips powers-up with the FIFOs 
> disabled, so you need software that knows how to enable them.

   That description also matches the NS16550AN, non-F, exactly.

> The bottom line is it sounds like you got hosed.. sorry.

   I disagree with your conclusion.

  Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
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From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Distribution: usa
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: zoom rom version was: 14.4K Modem Recommendations
Reply-To: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.10 Rev. Dec  7 1992
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:10:06 -0400
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In <1992Dec28.173859.27670@nosc.mil>, Ray Mitchell writes:
>
>Greetings,
>
>Thanks to all who e-mailed me their opinions and experiences with modems
>in answer to my inquiry about what to buy.  
[edited]
>************************* Begin Responses **************************
>
>If you go for anything Rockwell based, make sure that the BIOS ROM
>is version 1.270.  Anything less and you may have problems.

as far as I know, the zoom V32bis modem is rockwell based.  has zoom
released a 1.270 based upgrade yet?  

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From: dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: TDD with Mac w/ microphone?
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:10:25 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

Discussions about TDD (telephone device for the deaf?) protocol
have brought out the following:
- TDD uses 5-bit code similar/identical to Baudot
- TDD uses no carrier
- TDD CANNOT be emulated by most "standard" computer modems
- TDD has a fairly low baud rate
- both parties signal using the same frequencies rather than a
  originate/answer pair, using frequency-shift keying

What I'm wondering, is there any reason that a microcomputer
with sound digitizing equipment (e.g., a Mac with microphone) and
sound output port (e.g., a Mac) couldn't be used to emulate TDD
protocols in software?  Since TDD calls can be placed to a voice
part who then switches on the TDD, they could be handled similarly
with the user placing the handset near the microphone and speaker
appropriated.

I know software for the Mac exists which will allow FAXes and RTTY
signals to be decoded using the builtin microphone--any reason
(sampling rates, etc.) that the same couldn't be done with TDD?
(Or does such software exist?)

Also--is there a good 'standard' reference on 1) the operation specs
of TDD and 2) how to write software which 'recognizes' frequencies,
etc.?

Dan
dross@cs.wisc.edu
From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: WB Fax Upgrade
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:38:18 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati (Jim Duncan)
Organization: K-FOX 94.5 Classic Rock (KUFX, Gilroy-San Jose, CA)

In article <1993Jan2.204612.17857@netcom.com> gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:

>Faximum is not "required" software.  It's simply the only Unix package that
>Telebit has been able to adequately test, and therefore the only package
>that Telebit promises will work.
>
Well that's real handy.  The initial tested software recommendations
cost $90 for Windows, $60 for DOS, $70 for Mac, and $625 for UNIX.
With "outstanding offers" (Telebit's words) like that, it's no wonder
that UNIX is so relatively unpopular as an OS.    

Anyone tried Digifax yet?? 
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From: geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 5.04 ROM features
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:05:49 EST
Organization: Izot's Swamp

djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum) writes:

> My ZyXEL U-1496E with the 5.02 ROM does everything I need of it with one
> exception: it often disconnects without warning from a USR I call
> frequently. The list of 5.04 ROM features mentions that this ROM fixes an
> unspecified problem with USRs, but I need to know whether the problem
> that has been fixed is this unpredictable disconnect.

   My 5.03 U-1496E spends a lot of time connected to USR's 
16800HST/14400V.32bis and 14400HST/9600V.32 Dual Standards and I haven't had 
unexpected disconnect problems. 

  Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: puma <puma@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: really low speed modems
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: organized??  me??
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:31:56 GMT

hqm@ai.mit.edu (Henry Minsky) writes:
> I just picked up a model 3320 teletype. I need to know how to
> interface it to a rs232 serial line. 
> 
> Can someone describe the correct baud rate settings, stop bits, etc,
> and what electrical signalling protocol is used. (I have heard
> that the interface is a "current loop". I need to know how
> this works)...

I'm not sure if that unit is 110 bps or an older model that's
even slower, but the current loop problem is another thing...
While RS232 uses a voltage, one for transmit, one for receive,
that runs +12 to -12 (or so) with respect to ground, current
loop uses a wire pair with a current running through it that
changes to indicate the bit changes.  Units can be inserted in
the loop, like a party line.  Somewhere, one unit needs to be
'active' and supply the voltage for the loop, and the rest
are passive.  You need to supply enough voltage to maintain
the proper current in the loop, which varies with the loop
resistance and number of units, typically 20ma or 60ma.
Anyway, if you want to hook this up to a typical RS232 port,
you will need to purchase or build a current loop/RS232
converter.  
This could end up a lot of work, sure you want to do this??

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Telebit T1000 queston
Reply-To: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 12:07:47 GMT

GOODRIC@hsdwl.utc.com (Jim Goodrich) writes:

>Does the Telebit T1000 use a propriety protocol or does it support
>the v.32/v.42 standards?  In other words, will it only talk to another
>Telebit T1000?

The T1000 does PEP (with *no* compression and a 9600 bps max xfer rate)
or runs like a decent 2400 bps modem with MNP. 

I believe it supports:

V22bis		2400 bps
V22		1200 bps (European)
???		300 bps (European)
Bell 212A	1200 bps (US)
Bell 103	300 bps (US)

And it *may* be able to support the CCITT V.23(?) standard (that's the
one with the 1200 bps/75 bps split send/receive rate.
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: WB Fax Upgrade
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:27:09 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <89@ravel.ati.com> duncan@ravel.ati (Jim Duncan) writes:
>The initial tested software recommendations
>cost $90 for Windows, $60 for DOS, $70 for Mac, and $625 for UNIX.
>With "outstanding offers" (Telebit's words) like that, it's no wonder
>that UNIX is so relatively unpopular as an OS.    

Of course, for DOS and Mac, you pay $60-90 for one-system access; for
UNIX, you pay $625 for network access...
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From: nonsenso@utopia.hacktic.nl (Felipe Rodriquez)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Zyxel Vendors
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 17:04:03 GMT
Organization: HACK-TIC NETWORK FOUNDATION

Reply to: nonsenso@utopia.hacktic.nl


Hi,

 I am looking for suppliers of Zyxel modems, either is the USA, Europe or
Asia. Anyone that has a list of suppliers, please mail them to me. We
are desperate in getting those zyxels (1496E+) but everybody we
contacted is out of stock.

Please help !

        Felipe Rodriquez



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From: wizard@moz.UUCP (Wizard)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Could somebody tell me the quality of Zoom Modems?
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 08:56:47 EST
Organization: the Land of Moz   +1 519 741 1573

matttrem@willard.UUCP (Matthew Trembley) writes:

> I'm thinking of upgrading to a 14.4 Zoom modem with all the kinds of 
> compression and correction(internal).  It also faxes.  It says that it
> has 16550 UART and speeds up to 57,600 bps.
> It is for sale for $219.  
> Could someone tell me if this is a good deal and if the modem is of good 
> quality?
> 

Well, despite all the negative feedback you have received so far, I like 
the zoom modems. We have two at work, one internal, and one external. I 
have had no problems connecting at 14.4 with my WorldBlazer. Nor, as far 
as I know, have any of our customers. There has been some problems at 
9600 bps, with some modems, tho... And to get proper high speed fax 
connections, you need to run a complicated setup procedure, which tests 
and stores some line quality statistics. It is suposedly documented, but 
I couldn't find it. The Tech-Support people gave me the command, and then 
everything worked fine.
 

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From: mckeeveb@monashee.sfu.ca (Gumby - The unknown user)
Subject: Differences between E and E+...
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:17:02 GMT

Well...

Some results are in.

Board differences (Board Rev B for the E, E+): clock speed select switch.

The real difference seems to be in the contents of the EEPROM.  We tried
looking at this and discovered that the drain caused by the scope dropped
the signal enough to make the modem think it was a non-plus model (on E+).

We're working on decoding the contents... maybe we'll be able to release an
'upgrade ROM' to change at least some of the E's to E+'s...

'nough said.

-- 
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From: reginald.hirsch@yob.sccsi.com (Reginald Hirsch) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: RE: PRONUNCIATION OF ZYXE
Date: 24 Dec 92 21:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: reginald.hirsch@yob.sccsi.com (Reginald Hirsch) 

TO: rstory@elegant.com (Robert Story)

-> >   As if the X were an S and began the second syllable:  Zi'-sell


  That's ok according to the New York Times - gigabyte is pronounced
jigga-byte as "giga" is derived from giant.
                                
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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout modem
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:37:37 GMT

kenb@dadd.ti.com (Ken Butler) writes:

>Regarding "Digicom Scout modem", Mark Pearson writes:

>Mark> I have noticed a couple of posts about the Digicom Scout Plus.
>Mark> How do people rate it? I am looking to standardise our college on
>Mark> a new modem with all the V & MNP trimmings and fax and it looks
>Mark> good.

>Mark> What software comes with it?  Why is it that only the internal
>Mark> version has the 16550AFN chip?  I much prefer external modems on
>Mark> PCs - you can see the lights and usre the COM port for something
>Mark> else.

>While we're on the subject, does anyone have any good or bad experiences
>to relate regarding hooking one of these up to a Macintosh?  The
>price/performance ratio looks good, but I'd like to know if there are
>any compatibility problems.

>I have a relatively old Mac Plus that I'm using, so that could possibly
>compound the problem.

One of the people who got a modem from me is using them with a Mac
LC.  No probelms. I'm going to test one out with a Mac Classic II in
a couple of days and I'll repost if there are any misadventures. 

Dave

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From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Hayes lawyers intimidate competition (was: Hayes Press Release)
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:46:44 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <C0A7wy.Gyn@gator.use.com> larry@gator.use.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>Yes, little use at 14.4 except when talking to another Hayes 14.4

Yeah.  I'm assuming other manufacturers will follow suit (no pun intended :-).
>
>Likewise the software bundled with the USR.  Does the Hayes support
>fax class 1 or 2?

Although the ZOOM V.32bis modems STINK, one thing I will say for Zoom is
the "MTEZ" software they bundle is actually reasonable.  Not great, but
usable.  The stuff that came with the Hayes *won't even run*!!!  :-(

The Hayes Optima 144+FAX144 supports Fax class 1, V.17 14,400, V.29 9600,
and V.27ter 4800.   In talking to someone familiar with these things, I
learned that "Class 2" is still pretty much "cutting edge" and isn't 
available in most modems yet.

Does the T3000/WB support Class 2?
From: vitalos@eastside.FIDONET.ORG (Chris Vitalos)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: just a test
Date: 1 Jan 93 18:34:12 GMT
Organization: The East Side BBS, Allentown, PA (215) 434-6690

Hello All!

this is just a test: please disregard.

tx : clv

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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout modem
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:30:29 GMT

>Try to look at AT*O while online. It will report the line speed you are
>connected with, the error protocol used and the received signal level.

Good idea.

>:  E1  K1  M0  Q0  V1  X4 TONE
>: &B0 &C1 &D2 &R0 &T5
>: *E9 *F3 *G1 *M2 *N6 *P0 *Q1 *S1 *T1

>Try *G0 instead of *G1. This will raise the threshold before a lower
>speed is negotiated during the initial handshake. As per the other
>settings, Dave McLane explained them rather well.

The manual says that *G0 disables the adaptive handshake, so I got
the feeling that it would either make the CONNECT at the max speed
or give up. But mabye not, could you explain the difference between
*G0 and *G1 in some detail? 

Thanks,

Dave

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: PPI Modem IS REALLLLLLLY BAD!!!@%!@%!@
Date: 25 Dec 92 15:34:53 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

spyder@admiral.uucp (Eric) writes:

>I have a PM14400FXSA, and the modem has got to be the worst modem on the
>market.  I have had nothing but problems with it, and I practically have
>to baby-sit it, since it is so bad.  The modem can't handshake correctly
>on the first try to anywhere, and it can't upload either without the 
>transfer being aborted, which makes some of the users on my system get
>their transfers shot.  Anyway, there is no hope for a product with 
>quality as cheap as this.  

Since this is "Spyder"'s second post ragging on PPI, I should note that,
as PPI's tech folk say, the modem does work just fine for "other people."
I have had my PM14400FXSA since early June, at a point when most people
thought it was still vaporware.  I have not had a single problem with it
that wasn't fixed by a ROM upgrade early this fall.

I routinely call a variety of other modems, with no difficulties:
1)	PPI 14.4	- obviously, this works fine.
2)	Intel 14.4	- this also works fine.
3)	Telebit T3000	- this also works fine.
4)	MultiTech 9600	- this also works fine.
5)	USR HST 14.4	- this also works fine (at 9600)
6)	Zoom 14.4	- runs at 12.0, the Zoom's got a glitch.

As "Spyder" is apparently running a UUCP site, I _presume_ he's got more
understanding of telecommunications than the average man on the street.
Since I've been using the PM14400FXSA longer than anyone else I know, I'd
be interested in finding out the specs on his unit (how early the serial #
is, what ROM revision he's running) and also what brands other people are
attempting to use.  As I noted above, my unit works fine with anything that
I've encountered.

I'd also suggest taking a more in-depth look at the connections which are
failing.  Are they being placed across a digitial telephony switch?  Do the
modems on the other end support v.42/v.42bis?  How's the line quality?  Do
the DTE's on each end match?  Are the connections through an X.25 network or
a terminal server to ethernet?

It's very easy to blame everything on the modem, as "Spyder" has chosen to
do, and I'm not ruling out the idea that it's a bad unit.  However, from my
own experience with the brand, and the fact that the company is apparently
a subset of _Hayes_, I suspect there might be a little more awry than that.

-Shag

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From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout+ in Canada?
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:02:41 GMT

jester@ac.dal.ca wrote:
:  Anyone know where you can get a Digicom Scout+ in Canada or a mail order
: source in the U.S.?

You can order by email to wolfgang@netcom.com :-). I usually use US
Airmail to Canada since its the most economical with small quantities 
and takes less than a week in most cases.




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From: st1r8@elroy.uh.edu (Guillot, Burt J.)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Is 19.2K for ZyXel available yet?
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:55:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Is 19.2K data mode available for the ZyXel modems yet?  If not, how much
longer will we have to wait for the chips that will upgrade the modems?
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 24 Dec 1992 13:01:18 MST
From: <CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject:    DIP Switches on Okidata Okitel 2400 Plus

Does anyone have a description of the dip settings for an Okidata Okitel 2400 P
lus modem?  Please email, I will summarize.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Worldblazer/T-3000 question
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:36:56 GMT

Greg Andrews (gerg@netcom.com) wrote:
: tener@cs.widener.edu (Stuart Tener) writes:
: >In article <BzrtGK.D06@gator.use.com> larry@gator.use.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
: Mr. Tener,
: 
: Larry's question was *entirely* relevant to your article.  Telebit has
: never promised to support V.fast (when it's finished) in the WorldBlazer.


I also feel that the attack on Larry Snyder was not warranted. I know
him as a prolific contributor to this group. More in general we need
people like Larry Snyder, Bill Heiser, Dick Monroe, Rahul Dhesi, Bob
Rieger and many others, who stick their necks out and provide us with
connections to this new, full-duplex communications medium.

It seems not only I tired from TV sitcoms and gameshows: rahul.net
gained about 60 subscribers in just a few short months, Netcom gained
about 2000 subscribers in 1992 alone, from 950 to over 3000, and there
are plans for the future.

So we should appreciate the Larry Snyders around here. Just my .02.

Happy New Year!


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