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From: cczanj@vax.nott.ac.uk (Andy Jack)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Miles Davis 1970's output
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:09:30 GMT
Reply-To: cczanj@vax.nott.ac.uk (Andy Jack)
Organization: University of Nottingham, UK

>> Personally, I'd recommend an Anton Webern Memorial Prize for Hendrix to
>>commemorate inspiring so many dreadful imitators with so little to say.
>
>Hey, Anton's music is burning!

I phrased it badly (as always). I like Webern, I think Webern is important, but
I think there were an awful lot of followers who made plink-plonk music that
isn't worth anything. What I was trying to say is that Hendrix likewise had a
lot of imitators and descendants (heavy metal etc.) but I can't see the
originality in the original. It was technically different but I never
understood "why". As a lad, I tried to learn Wes Montgomery tunes, licks, solos
- but I never had any desire to (a) learn Jimi Hendrix equivalents or (b) buy a
wah-wah pedal and point the guitar at the amp to generate feedback. 

Since it still worries me, after twenty odd years, let me ask the traditional
r.m.b. question. Which Jimi Hendrix album should I listen to?

>As for Miles, well, I like his 70s music a lot.  I think On The Corner
>is one of Miles' greatest artistic statement, on par with how the Grosse
>Fugue relates to Beethoven's body of music. 

That's a strong statement. Given the late, late period Miles of "Star
People",and "We Want Miles", "Decoy", "Tutu" and "Amandla". (Can we start a
thread discussing late Beethoven string quartets or is that beyond the remit of
this newsgroup :-)? )

>On The Corner took me the longest to like, but once I copped it, it now
>is one of my favorite.

OK, I take the pointer and I'll try again.  Thanks, Jeff, 

	Cheers,
	Andy
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From: Edward F Ribar <eribar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Reef
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:26:39 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I was hoping someone could help me to find information on "Reef."

I'm assuming that this is the name of a tune.  A friend of mine is looking for 
this and described it as "modern jazz with a funky back-beat and a screeching
sax."  The names associated with it are Mingelberg, Lacy, Rudd, Reyseger, and 
Bennink.

I'm looking for a group name and album title for this piece.  If anyone knows
anything about this, I'd appreciate it if you would e-mail it to me, since I'm
not a regular subscriber to this newsgroup.


                                        Thanks!

                                        --Ed
From: sramirez@milos.intel.com (Steve Ramirez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Looking for John Mayall Tune
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:19:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intel Corp, Chandler, AZ

In article <1992Jul28.144254.11150@cci632.cci.com> rdz@cci632.cci.com (Robert D. Zarcone) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.030055.7021@adobe.com> kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall) writes:
>>"Too Smooth to Move", kinda one of his signature songs, I believe.
>
>I don't remember the album title (some help, huh?) but I do remember that it

The Turning Point

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From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Jazz Breakbeats
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:54:58 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

In article <22785@oasys.dt.navy.mil> sshapero@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Shapero) writes:
>In alt.rap, mcarlsso@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mars) writes:
>>Just wondering if anyone knows some good records for jazz breaks.
>>I don't know much about jazz since I just recently really got into
>>this stuff.
>>
>

What about the bass and/or the horn riffs on Mikes Runs The Voodoo Down off
Bitches Brew?

On a similar note, and related to the recent Miles In the seventies stuff, I still
rate Bitches Brew above ANY of the earlier( or later) output , from when he had 
his first band til his death. That band live (it was early seventies) was
incredible, them live at Ronnie Scotts (in London) is indelibly stamped in my
memory. On the other hand I am not sure about the On The Corner(period) tho
Agharta still strikes me as one of the most dense releases.  HOw much effort
does the listener have to put inti it?!

The social renegade.
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From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: The Monette Trumpets (was Re: Wynton's horn)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 01:50:13 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
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In article <1992Jul23.215958.25223@cbnews.cb.att.com> (rec.music.bluenote), milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose) writes:
> 
> In article <JOEY.92Jul23080146@elysium.berkeley.edu>, joey@berkeley.edu (Joe Hellerstein) writes:
> 
> Another tangent:  do any of you trumpet-dudes have a Jerome Callet trumpet?
> He has all sorts of outrageous ads that say things like his is the finest
> trumpet made, and has all sorts of money-back guarantees and stuff like
> that.  Pretty obnoxious ads, if you ask me, so I've always wondered what
> everyone thought of his trumpet.
> -- 
> Guy Klose
> milo@mvuxi.att.com
> 

When I use to frequent trumpet conferences while I was in college
Jermoe Callet was always there with a booth selling his mouthpieces.
He would only play two tones that I ever heard all day.  It was pedal
C and then a double high C.  I remember how a trumpet professor asked
Callet to play something like America one early morning before the
conference started and he told me that Callet couldn't play it.

He has been around for a long time now so he must be doing something
right in the retail music business.  His trumpets might be very good
but I have never tried one of his out.  I was turned off by the high
note mouthpiece concept since there is much more to playing trumpet
than high notes.

David
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:08:27 EDT
From: <MCD2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Ellington (was RBG Big Band)
 <Jul.22.17.53.18.1992.16681@ruhets.rutgers.edu>

I second Ben's suggestion.  Check out any of these amazing CDs:

  The afro-eurasian eclipse (OJCCD-645-2)
  And his mother called him Bill (Bluebird 6287-2-RB)
  The Ellington suites (OJCCD-446-2)
  The far east suite (Bluebird 7640-2)

 --Mark Detweiler
From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Pat Metheny
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:44:14 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas

jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker) writes:
> In the latest "Guitar Player" magazine, Metheny says he will probably
> record an album with Jim Hall consisting of standards and originals. He
> also mentions that he and John Scofield almost got together for an
> album but there was a clash between the record labels.

That was the original lineup for GRACE UNDER PRESSURE, but there was that
"clash" and Frisell was called in - witness the tunes on that album, "Pat
Me" and "Bill Me". The album certainly didn't suffer from the change; I'm
sure Pat and Sco will eventually get together. The Hall/Metheny definitely
sounds nice too.
-- 
| Vincent Kargatis                      |  "It was jump or die."              |
| Dept. of Space Physics and Astronomy  |                                     |
| Rice University, Houston, TX          |      Marilyn Crispell to Anthony    |
| [vek@spacsun.rice.edu]                |        Braxton on his Comp. 69C     |
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From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: IAI jazz label
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:29:06 GMT

Does anyone know what artists and how many titles were released
on the old IAI label?  I mean the old LPs and not the current reissues
on CD.  There are really some excellent titles on here -- the duets
between Rivers and Holland, for example.
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From: hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: Crispell/Tristano/Bley
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:27:13 GMT

mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) writes:

>Someone who likes Tristano, or more particularly, wants me to like him - can
>you please recommend something both "interesting" and well-recorded?  

Hmmm I thought we did this before... anyway I agree that NY Improvisations
is one of the lesser Tristano dates (and I have it on a noisy pre-recorded
cassette). My favorite Tristano tunes are on (lp-only, as far as I know):

V.A.	The Modern Jazz Piano (Savoy, available as cutout)

	This has some *amazing* cuts with Billy Bauer gtr and Peter Ind b.
	Love those wiggly intertwining lines from Bauer and Tristano.

Crosscurrents, a split lp with Thad Cameron (or was it Thad Jones?)

	The Tristano side is mostly sextet material, with Konitz, Marsh,
	Bauer, bassist and drummer. This has the infamous free improvised
	cuts Digression and Intuition, both of which are quite tasty.

Descent into the Maelstrom (Inner City)

	The title cut is an incredible dense turbulent multitracked Cecil-ish 
	solo. There are several other nice pieces, but on the whole this is
	uneven.

The compilation and Crosscurrents are well-recorded with decent pressings.
My copy of Descent into the Maelstrom sounds awful, but it's the only copy
I've seen, so I can't complain too much.

Footnote: Bay area pianist Greg Goodman has a nice Tristano tribute (with
specific reference to Maelstrom in the liner notes) on his Metalanguage
lp, The Construction of Ruins.

Bill
From: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: jazz and blues recomm
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:55:33 EST
Reply-To: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

BN>I've never been able to figure out where to begin.  I would appreciate any
BN>recommendations of "classic" artists and labels; I don't much care for the
BN>modern trends.

I just finished teaching an adult-education class on jazz and was hard
put to recommend specific recordings.  There's so much, and what's
available changes almost by the minute.  Still, I suggest you get a copy
of the Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz.  It's available on 5 CDs,
or you might find a used copy of the earlier edition in the form of a 6
LP box.  It's well put together, and its compiler, Martin Williams, is
the most perceptive jazz writer we've had.

Also, check out CADENCE, a magazine.  It has the widest and deepest
coverage of jazz and blues you can find.  They review virtually 100% of
jazz and blues new releases and reissues, and also print interviews.

dale.smoak@channel1.com
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From: tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis)
Subject: Re: Church of St. John the Divine?
Keywords: coltrane, church
Organization: Vestek Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:19:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.213726.22578@leland.Stanford.EDU> schabert@spieden.Stanford.EDU (Vernon Schabert) writes:
>I remember someone posting several months ago about visiting a church in
>San Francisco called the Church of St. John the Divine.  Apparently,
>this church has made John Coltrane their patron saint, and performs his
>music at the beginning of each church service.  Was I just dreaming
>this, or does this place really exist?  If anyone knows its whereabouts,
>I would appreciate getting an address and/or telephone number.
>
>Email or post.
>
>Vernon Schabert
>schabert@psych.stanford.edu
>

It exists alright, and can be found on divisidaro & oak.
sunday service starts at 11:45 and lasts until
it ends.  it's a wild time...plenty of jazz freaks,
hippies and neighborhood folks.

i think the official name of the church is
"The African Orthadox Church of John Coltrane"

The house band plays regularly at Cafe Du Nord.


tim@vestek.com 
tim

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From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Subject: Re: Billy Harper
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:17:05 GMT

v059jck9@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ronald S Russ) writes:
> Does anyone know what he is up to these days.  

Another recent project was with Mark Masters' Jazz Orchestra PRIESTESS on
Capri. He's a featured soloist (along with Jimmy Knepper) and they do four
of his tunes (including the title cut.) Good contemporary west coast big
band.
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| Dept. of Space Physics and Astronomy  |                                     |
| Rice University, Houston, TX          |         Marilyn Crispell on an      |
| [vek@spacsun.rice.edu]                |       Anthony Braxton composition   |
From: rholmes@athena.cs.uga.edu (Robb Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: The Duke
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:20:52 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Which Duke Ellington recordings to recommend?  For someone just beginning
to explore this master's music, I suggest "Ellington at Newport," Columbia
CK 40587.  This captures the hightlights of Ellington's 1956 Newport
performance, which launched what's considered the third (and final) peak
in his career.  "Jeep's Blues" and "Diminuendo & Crescendo in Blue" on
this disk are both rollicking, accessible crowd pleasers in the Jazz at
the Philharmonic tradition.  "Newport Jazz Festival Suite" is overpowered
by the competition, but has a lot to offer after repeated listening.
This recording also marks the triumphant return of alto sax master Johnny
Hodges, after an absence of five years.  

The down side is that this is a relatively short album by current standards:
slightly more than 40 minutes.  A pity that some of the other Ellington
recordings from the same festival were not added to the CD release.

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From: v059jck9@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ronald S Russ)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: re: Beefheart's real name
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

From some written sources it is claimed that he was born Don Vliet and added Van
at some later point. Whether this is true or not  I am not entirely sure, but
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either.

Ron Russ 
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From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Re: The Duke
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:55:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.170428.28179@microsoft.com>, marklew@microsoft.com (Mark Lewin) writes:
>rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>>I would also recommend, partly because of the price and partly because it's a 
>>great set typical of what the Ellington Orch. performed in a dance setting, 
>>the newly issued HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUKE! THE BIRTHDAY SESSIONS on LaserLight.  
>
>What years were these recorded in?
>
>Mark

The best guess people I've talked to have been able to make (based on 
personnel, etc.) is that the concerts occurred in 1954 and 1955.

-Lynn

< R. Lynn Rardin (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)  >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
< Brandeis University, Waltham, MA                  >
< Waltham, MA 02254-9110                            > 
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From: tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis)
Subject: Re: Church of St. John the Divine?
Keywords: coltrane, church
Organization: Vestek Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:23:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.181948.29577@vestek.com> tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.213726.22578@leland.Stanford.EDU> schabert@spieden.Stanford.EDU (Vernon Schabert) writes:
>>I remember someone posting several months ago about visiting a church in
>>San Francisco called the Church of St. John the Divine.  Apparently,
>>this church has made John Coltrane their patron saint, and performs his
>>music at the beginning of each church service.  Was I just dreaming
>>this, or does this place really exist?  If anyone knows its whereabouts,
>>I would appreciate getting an address and/or telephone number.
>>
>>Email or post.
>>
>>Vernon Schabert
>>schabert@psych.stanford.edu
>>
>


just as a followup, St. John's was feature in a 1 pager
in last months SF Focus mag put out by KQED....


tim
tim@vestek.com

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From: wvb3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (William V Bassett)
Subject: Re: Church of St. John the Divine?
Keywords: coltrane, church
Reply-To: wvb3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (William V Bassett)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:49:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.213726.22578@leland.Stanford.EDU> schabert@spieden.Stanford.EDU (Vernon Schabert) writes:
>I remember someone posting several months ago about visiting a church in
>San Francisco called the Church of St. John the Divine.  Apparently,
>this church has made John Coltrane their patron saint, and performs his
>music at the beginning of each church service.  Was I just dreaming
>this, or does this place really exist?  If anyone knows its whereabouts,
>I would appreciate getting an address and/or telephone number.
>
In New York, the Cathedral of St. John the Divine I don't think has made
Coltrane a patron saint, but they support a wide variety of jazz,
alternative and world musics.

Rick Bassett
wvb3@cunixa.columbia.edu
rick@woof.music.columbia.edu
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From: behan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Patrick Kalaher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.funky,alt.rap
Subject: Re: Jazz Breakbeats
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:14:34 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

blackbox@pfunk.hanse.de (Michael Kistenmacher) writes:


>In article <1992Jul24.213241.26534@nrao.edu> (rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.funky,alt.rap), lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
>>Are these guys any good? (MC 900 ft Jesus)
>>A friend of mine said I might like them, but I am skeptical. What sort of
>>hip hop are they? What kind of lyrics? Aggresive? Laid back? More like
>>Urban Dance Squad than rap?

>Well, MC900 ft Jesus is hard to describe. Think of a telephone voice
			 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Read Annoying.  DJ Zero is good, but MC900 foot Cheesecake is awful.
What does it say about him if I tell you that I wish all the songs were
instrumentals?  I assumed that because they were on the same label (Nettwerk)
as Skinny Puppy, they might be good, but, alas, no.  Scratchbait.


>Greetings....Michael
...and Salutations, Patrick

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From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Subject: Re: Miles Davis 1970's output
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:44:54 GMT

In <0095E0EB.862696A0@vax.nott.ac.uk> cczanj@vax.nott.ac.uk (Andy Jack) writes:

>Since it still worries me, after twenty odd years, let me ask the traditional
>r.m.b. question. Which Jimi Hendrix album should I listen to?

On the one hand, "Electric Ladyland" is great, but it's true, he 
points the guitar at the amp for feedback alot.  :-)

So I would say "Axis:  Bold as Love", which contains some of his
most beautiful songwriting ("Castles Made of Sand", "Little Wing").

Andrew
From: U19807@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Miles Davis 1970's output
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:27:48 GMT
 <malcolm.711655984@wrs.com>,<1992Jul20.200714.5027@sarah.albany.edu>
 <0095DE8E.DC664560@vax.nott.ac.uk>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <0095DE8E.DC664560@vax.nott.ac.uk>, cczanj@vax.nott.ac.uk (Andy Jack)
says:
>
>
>Why does everybody go on about Jimi Hendrix? Apart from innovation and the
>trick of dying young, he never seems to me to have any claim to fame. Like

"Apart from innovation"? What? Is innovation supposed to count as a negative
attribute unless self-described Jazzbos are responsible for it?

If that crack about "The trick of dying young" is supposed to come off as moral
attitudinalizing,it's a weak argument. So Hendrix died young. What of Fats
Navarro? Jimmy Blanton? Clifford Brown?

>those Miles records of the 70's, it sounded crass to me then and sounds dated
>now. Personally, I'd recommend an Anton Webern Memorial Prize for Hendrix to
>commemorate inspiring so many dreadful imitators with so little to say.

This is not to be confused with the Wynton Marsalis memorial prize for Fine
Young Men in Expensive Suits who play Blue Note swipes,claiming that they're
doing something new and inspiring. My,some of these awards are getting pretty
damn easy to hand out these days,aren't they? >:)

Seriously,though,this is just _music_. This is not a discussion about a life/
death struggle between what is "proper" and "improper" art,if any such
division exists. Just because you dislike Jimi for being crass (and I could
say the same thing about the crass nostalgia-masquerading-as-aesthetic pinings
of Wynton M.) doesn't necessarily mean that his music is worthless or that
we should all start jumping down each other's throats because our concepts
of "true music" don't mesh.

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
From: joey@berkeley.edu (Joe Hellerstein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Bay Area 8/4-8/9
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:04:04
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In-reply-to: sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com's message of 21 Jul 92 00:08:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.000845.13284@odin.corp.sgi.com> sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz) writes:

   8/9: Clifford Brown tribute w/Brown, Jimmy & Tootie Heath, Harold Land, 
   Bobby Hutcherson, etc.
                                 ^^^^^
                                  WOW!

I'm guessing you mean Anthony here, not Clifford himself.  :-)

Joe Hellerstein

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From: mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.funky,alt.rap
Subject: Re: Jazz Breakbeats
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:36:26 GMT
Organization: UK Mac DTS/SRL Data
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <35991@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Mars, mcarlsso@sdcc13.ucsd.edu writes:
>I'm looking for anything funky that can be used in a hiphop track.

Well... I was listening to Alphonso Johnson's "Up From The Cellar" (on the
CBS "Best Of..." LP) last night and thinking it would make a killer
breakbeat.

Also, Weather Report's "Cucumber Slumber" is another killer break
(Alphonso Johnson on the bass again) though it has been used already (by
MC 900 Ft Jesus, amongst others.)

Take a look at some 70's Earth Wind & Fire stuff too - "I Am" and "All 'N'
All" are just full of things that could be used.

Mark Allerton
mark@bilpin.co.uk
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