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From: mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: kvm routine and architecture
Keywords: kvm architecture
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:36:48 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <kummphINNmg6@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.172028.15499@rdg.dec.com> navarro@azur.enet.dec.com (Jean Navarro) writes:
>>I am developping a prog on a SPARC station IPX 4.1.1-IP 4 ,this prog
>>is retrieving process information by reading the kernel with kvm routines
>>kvm_getproc, kvm_nextproc, kvm_setproc (3K) .
>>
>>due to the use of these routines ,can someone explain if the resultant BINARY 
>>exec will run on systems having :
>>	-The same application architecture (sun4)
>>	-The same KERNEL architecture only (sun4c)

>It depends on the parts of the structure that you reference.  Sun and
>Solbourne appear to put all the architecture-dependent stuff at the end of
>the proc structure, so if you only reference the parts that are common to
>all the architectures then your binary should work on all SunOS systems.

It gets worse with the user structure, because the pcb structure is
at the beginning, and this varies in size with architecture.  It gets
very large for sun4m, for example.  You are pretty well forced to compile
separate executables for each architeture even if you use the kvm functions.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: spencer@nigel.cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Stephen Spencer)
Subject: Annoying SunView Cursor Problem.
Originator: spencer@nigel
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts & Design
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:08:35 GMT

I've got a SPARC 2 clone, with the Sun cgsix color board in it.
When I run SunView, then exit Sunview, the black SunView arrow cursor stays
behind in the last mouse location before SunView quit.  (The *image* of the
cursor, that is.)  

If I then invoke SunView again, it disappears, and a new arrow cursor appears,
linked to the mouse location. 

If I run X Windows, the SunView mouse cursor image doesn't go away.

How can I clear off this mouse cursor image when I leave SunView?  I've not
had this problem with any one-bit Sun workstations before, and think it must
have SOMETHING to do with the interaction of SunView and the color board.


 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.sysv386
From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: My disk is faster than your disk (was Re: New viking sparc processor?)
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:57:50 GMT

cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes:
>jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
>>>    # time dd if=/dev/rsd0b of=/dev/null bs=10240k count=1
>>>	   10.5 real         0.0 user         2.2 sys  
>on a 486/33 EISA system with light load:
>	   12.0 real         0.0 user         0.6 sys

coney# /bin/time dd if=/dev/rsd3c of=/dev/null bs=10240k count=1
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
	4.4 real         0.0 user         1.0 sys  

sd3 is a 424MB Seagate ST1480 that Sun sells.  People who use our software
frequently deal with 32 or 40-bit/pixel images of 100MB or more, so yes,
single users do require that much I/O.

-Jonathan		hue@island.COM		Island Graphics Corp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.sysv386
From: cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill)
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:02:43 GMT

jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:

>In <1992Apr7.211331.1526@wsrcc.com> wolfgang@wsrcc.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht) writes:
>>All the tests I've seen show the PC's I/O running at a significantly
>>slower I/O rate.  How many KB/sec to/from the disk does your PC do?

>>    # time dd if=/dev/rsd0b of=/dev/null bs=10240k count=1
>>    1+0 records in
>>    1+0 records out
>>	   10.5 real         0.0 user         2.2 sys  

on a 486/33 EISA system with light load:

	   12.0 real         0.0 user         0.6 sys


So it doesn't look like there is that much of a difference when EISA
comes into the picture (and it's still at a much lower cost than what
one pays for the Sun stuff).

>This isn't all that fair of a test.  The Sun figures would be lower,
>especially for the Sparc 1, if they weren't doing so much work while
>the test was running.  But the Suns still completely blew away my
>486 system at home.

I'm sure they also blew away your 486 system at home with respect to cost.


BTW- how often does a single user system need that much I/O anyway? 

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From: nzhang@umiacs.umd.edu (Ning Zhang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Socket Hangs Up on SUN-OS 4.1.1
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:54:43 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

We have had a serious problem on SS-2s running 4.1.1. We have a
special database running in this environment. The database server
is running on a SS-2, which is also the NFS server. The db-server
accespts requests from client processes running on other
machines. The connection between the db-server and a client is
thru socket with TCP/IP. The server listens to the port 9002.

The problem we have is that when the db-server is killed, and then
we kill the clients, the netstat command shows that 

tcp        0      0  clienthost.2445         localhost.9002       TIME_WAIT

In the normal cases, after a few minutes, the above line goes away
so that we can restart the db-server.

However, sometimes the netstat command shows several hundred lines
like 

tcp        0      0  localhost.2445         localhost.sunrpc       TIME_WAIT

and on the console of an NFS client workstation shows that NFS server is
not responsing. Sometimes netstat just hangs up (cannot be kill by root),
and the ps command shows that the status of the netstat process is 'D'.
Only rebooting can solve the problem.

Is this a problem within the SUN-OS 4.1.1 kernel ? Is there any workaround?

Thanks,
-Ning
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: nolan@helios.unl.edu (Michael Nolan)
Subject: Problem with SunOS 4.1.2 and daylight savings time?
Reply-To: nolan@helios.unl.edu
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date:  6 Apr 92 14:23:18 GMT

Sometime on Sunday, cron stopped processing entries which were directed
to /dev/null.  Other entries ran just fine, and reloading the table with
crontab fixed the problem.  (I discovered the problem while investigating why
nn had stopped accepting new entries from the nntp server, but it extended to 
other cron entries as well.)

I wonder if this is related to the automatic changeover to daylight savings
time which occurred yesterday?
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From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: OW3.0 - spider program
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:20:52 GMT
Organization: cic

se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott) writes:

>In article <1992Apr11.183532.4618@news.yale.edu> paul%oberon@econ.yale.edu (Paul McGuire) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr11.100420.28865@ukw.uucp> lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
>>>se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott) writes:
>>>
>>>>In the demo directory of OW 3.0 there is a program
>>>>called spider.
>>>>Can anyone enlighten me with the rules of this game?
>>>
>>>I suggest you use the "Help" button, the second button
>>>from the right. It will pop up a window with buttons
>>>for all the help sections.
>>
>>I'd suggest that you not use help since I had fun working out the
>>rules and how to win by what it would let me do.  After all, real
>>computer wienies don't read documentation.  I've been
>>addicted ever since.  My help button is grayed out anyway.
>>Paul McGuire

>Like Paul, my help button is grayed out too. Why do you think
>I asked the net  for help?
>Anyway, thanks to all those people who sent me mail.

You *could* have mentioned that. Spider uses a hard coded
path to it's help directory, /usr/openwin/lib/help/spider.
You may have installed Open Windows somewhere else, without
a symbolic link from /usr/openwin pointing there, or
that directory may be missing. (This is OWN 3.0.)
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From: dong@umiacs.umd.edu (Dong Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: c compiler
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:58:55 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

Hi, Sun gurus,
I was trying to port a program to sparc 2 and had this problem.
I don't know if this is a bug or I missed something.
%cat -n test.c
     1  #include <stdio.h>
     2  void init(FILE *fp);
     3  
     4  main()
     5  {
     6  FILE *fp;
     7  
     8  fp=fopen("TRY","w");
     9  init(fp);
    10  fclose(fp);
    11  }
    12  
    13  void init(FILE *fp)
    14  {
    15  fprintf(fp,"This is a test \n");
    16  }
%cc test.c
"test.c", line 2: syntax error at or near word "struct"
"test.c", line 13: syntax error at or near word "struct"
"test.c", line 15: fp undefined

What is this ? The same piece of codes works fine on almost every
other types of machines I test.

Please send me E-mail since I don't subscribe this group.
From: mycal@netronix.UUCP (Mycal Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SunNet Manager quest
Distribution: world
Date: (null), 06 Apr 92 18:26:27 GMT
Organization: Netronix, Inc.


In my journy to beat this thing called SNM,  I have come up with yet another
problem.

It states in the manual on page 7-15 that you can use "-C format" for
octet strings.  They even give an example of
        -C %02.2X:%02.2X:%02.2X:%02.2X:%02.2X:%02.2X

this should cause an OCTET STRING containing a 48-bit Ethernet address to
be formatted in standard colon notation. (for example 08:00:20:07:8f:93)

but instead I get 303830303230303738663933.  anyone got any ideas?

also when I try to set an octet string that is in the format of above it
only sends the last octet, not the whole string.

any help would be great

thanx
mycal




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From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Flight Simulator.
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:56:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Apr17.155625.7433
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc.

In article 091202IACSP1@ASUACAD.BITNET, IACSP1@ASUACAD.BITNET () writes:
>Hi,
>Is there a free ware version of the flight simulator for the SUN?
>

Look for acm on export.lcs.mir.edu in the /contrib directory.

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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: getting dlopen to work on SunOS 4.1.1
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:52:12 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>	dlopen: stub interception failed
>	IOT trap (core dumped)
>
>Does anyone have any ideas why this happens?

The first message basically means that the run-time linker has, somehow,
not detected that the run-time library being linked in is the "-ldl"
library - i.e., it didn't find it in "/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0".  The
routines in that library are *NOT* ever supposed to be invoked; instead,
the run-time loader is supposed to recognize that the library is
"/usr/ib/libdl.so.1.0", and convert calls to routines in that library to
calls to routines in the run-time loader itself.

Try running "ldd" on the program.  If it gives any other string than
"/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0" as the library for "-ldl.1" - *ANY* other
string, *NO MATTER WHETHER IT REFERS TO THE SAME FILE OR NOT*, i.e. 
"//usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0" and "/lib/libdl.so.1.0" are *NOT* equivalent to
"/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0"! - the program needs to be relinked in such a
fashion that the library ends up being *EXACTLY*
"/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0".

(Yes, I think this is a crock, albeit one that works OK 99 44/100% of
the time; the other 56/100% seems to cause a fair bit of confusion and
grief.)

You may have given some "-L" options to the linker that caused problems,
or something like that.  (Or, worse, you may have explicitly given the
path name of the "-ldl" library.  Don't do that.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: pln@egret1.stanford.edu (Patrick L. Nolan)
Subject: Re: OW3.0 - spider program
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:33:24 GMT

brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:

>In article <1992Apr11.100420.28865@ukw.uucp> lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
><se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott) writes:
><
><>In the demo directory of OW 3.0 there is a program
><>called spider.
><>It is a card game for one, using 2 packs.
><>Can anyone enlighten me with the rules of this game?
><>I've managed a score of 257 out of 1000 without
><>knowing how I did it!
><
><I suggest you use the "Help" button, the second button
><from the right. It will pop up a window with buttons
><for all the help sections.

>Under OW2.0 that button was grayed out.  Now what?

The default path to the help directory is compiled into the program.
It's /Proto/4.0/Xnews/sun4/usr/lib/spider, which has no relation to the actual
directory structure on most machines.  For a permanent fix you can
edit the binary file with emacs.  Just find the offending string
(it occurs twice) and overwrite it with /usr/openwin/lib/help/spider.
Since the replacement is shorter that the original, it will fit easily.
Be sure to add a \n (ascii 0) after the new string.

Alternately you can just type the correct path in the Properties
window brought up by the File button each time you start the program.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: chris@solbourne.com (Chris Horne)
Subject: Re: can your 486 do this? (New viking sparc processor)
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:25:55 GMT


Solbourne 5/901, Seagate Saber VII 2HP/9MB/sec drive

rack1# time dd bs=10240k count=1 if=/dev/rxd0c of=/dev/null
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
0.0u 0.9s 0:02 34% 0+4744k 0+1io 0pf+0w
rack1# uptime
  8:14am  up 1 day, 14:46,  1 user,  load average: 0.37, 0.24, 0.01
rack1#

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From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: OW3.0 - spider program
Date: 11 Apr 92 10:04:20 GMT
Organization: cic

se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott) writes:

>In the demo directory of OW 3.0 there is a program
>called spider.
>It is a card game for one, using 2 packs.
>Can anyone enlighten me with the rules of this game?
>I've managed a score of 257 out of 1000 without
>knowing how I did it!

I suggest you use the "Help" button, the second button
from the right. It will pop up a window with buttons
for all the help sections.
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From: dwatson@lookout.uswest.com (Darryl D. Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:57:30 GMT
Organization: US WEST Communications

In article <1992Apr10.130243.10529@virtech.uucp>, cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes:

	[stuff deleted]
> 
> BTW- how often does a single user system need that much I/O anyway? 
> 
Always.
From: mike@hal.CSS.GOV (Mike Shannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: 3480 type tape drive wanted
Keywords: 3480 tape wanted
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:31:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ENSCO, Inc., Melbourne, Fl.


Subject: 3480 tape drive
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Distribution: usa
Keywords: 3480

I am try to locate a 3480 style tape drive that can be attached to a
SPARstation.  Ideally the drive should attach to the SCSI and look
like a standard 9trk drive to SunOS.  Do any of you know of company
that makes such a drive.
thank


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From: bill@casemo.UUCP (Bill Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sparc2 vs. IPX
Keywords: IPX Sun performance
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:58:32 GMT
Organization: Dowty Communications, Annapolis Jct.,MD

Can anyone give me an idea of the tradeoff between a Sparcstation 2
and a Sparcstation IPX?  I know that the physical units are different,
but I need to know what the performance comparison between them is.

						Thanks much,
						Bill
						mimsy!casemo!bill
From: gregory@buoux.gipsi.fr (Gregory Popovitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: problem for debugging dynamically linked code (with dlopen and dlsym)
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:00:00 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: Gipsi SA, Montigny le Bretonneux, France


Hi everybody,

On my sparcstation 2 running SunOS 4.1.1, I am trying to debug (using 
dbxtool and dbx) some code which is linked dynamically using dlopen and
dlsym. It doesn't works, as the debugger does't access the symbol table of 
the dynamically linked object.

Is there a way to make the debugger aware of the symbol table of a
dynamically linked object.

gregory

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From: choke@wet.UUCP (Sean Gallaty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Suns at home mailing list information.
Summary: mailing list information
Keywords: SUNS AT HOME MAILING LIST INFO
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:12:50 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Organization: Independant


Hello.  I recieved many requests for this information, so instead of mailing
all these people, I descided just to post it.
Enjoy!

For requests to be added to the mailing list of Suns-at-Home send mail to:

Suns-at-Home-Request@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu.  

To check out the archives, send mail to :

Suns-at-Home-Archives@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu 

With the word 'help' in the body text of the message.
This information courtesy of Dwight D. McKay, the moderator of the 
Suns-at-Home mailing list.


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From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SunOS  4.1.1_U1 (Sun3/60) and performance
Date: 12 Apr 1992 22:48:25 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu

In article <x0vj9b+.wolfgang@netcom.com> wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke) writes:
>thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes:
>: The reason I mention Fry's (and why I'm astonished) is that they are usually
>: a Mac/DOS-type of store.  I suppose they'll soon be selling Suns, too!  :-)

Don't count on Fry's selling any Sun systems.  They are probably
selling memory because their original business was selling chips
and junk food in San Jose.  Unfortunately, Fry's seems to have
drifted away from their original emphasis on techie markets to
the more common marketing approach of pandering to low overhead
PC sales.  None of the people I've met in the Los Angeles store
could hardly describe a common PC configuration much less have
any clue about what makes a SUN different from a PC.  Fry's is
unlikely to become a SUN outlet -- unless they change personnel.
From: johnj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (John A. Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Laptop SPARC, SCSI
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:32:48 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library


We're in the market for another laptop SparcStation. Presently we have
an RDI BriteLite combined with an Acropolis 1G drive.

We're considering the SparcBook by Tadpole.  There is one drawback
that we can see, but can't get our hands on a unit to test out our
application needs (Sybase, lots of IO).


It is the Parallel-SCSI adaptor.  I have seen two reviews of the
system, but neither really hammered this adaptor.

Has anyone used the SparcBook with an external drive and Sybase?  What
is performance like?

We want to go with the SparcBook if possible as our RDI laptop has
already seen over 100k miles from Japan to Australia to Canada to the
Netherlands to Italy and back etc. so it is getting a bit heavy to
tote, and we need a second portable system.

Any comments on the display would be appreciated as well.  We have the
larger mono display on our BriteLite.

Thanks,
-johnj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: 670 or 690?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 01:52:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: na

peter@merlin.acadiau.ca (Peter Steele) writes:
: From what I can gather, the 670 has the same raw CPU power as the
: 690. What exactly does the 690 have over the 670 that would make
: that system a better choice, taking into consideration the higher
: maintenance costs of the 690.

11 versus 7 VME slots and more internal disk capacity.
Do you still have the 3/160? It can be upgraded to a MP.
The MP motherboard is the same size as a 3/60 motherboard.

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