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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:03:11 PST
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From:         Mike Morris <kla!M_Morris%pid.csd@SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pegasus Mail

=> Does anyone know how to block all the routing messages from the body
=> of the message in Pegasus mail?
=> It is very annoying to see in a message all the routing
=> messages.

On the IBM version, just hit the 'H' key while viewing the message. All
the routing info that's actually in the header is hidden, except To
From Subject and Date (if I recall).

Note that RFC-821 & 822 specify that the header ends at the first
blank line. So if someone forwards a message that has a legitimate
header, followed by a blank line, and then a bunch more header info
from the original sender, there's nothing that any mailer can/should
do to eliminate this, since it must be regarded as part of the message
body.



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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:47:08 -0500
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From:         GEMMELL@MEDCOLPA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Looking for other Gateway 2000 users

    Doug,
      I don't use any Gateway machines as file servers right now, but we have fu
   ture plans
to possibly do so in the future.  Keep me abreast of your situation and I will d
   o the same.

                                                  Kevin Gemmell
                                                  Medical College of PA
From: KLEEWEIN@MACC.WISC.EDU (Bert Kleewein)
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Subject: DL2000 and DX2's
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:22:00 GMT
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For anyone that's interested, Dayna has a beta version of the new DL2000 driver
that should take care of problems with some 486 chips (dx2's I think).

The persone to get in contact with is Mark Middleton at (801) 531-0600.



Bert Kleewein
McArdle Lab for Cancer Research
University of Wisconsin
Kleewein@macc.wisc.edu
From: RAY@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL (Ray Todd Stevens)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: HP 4 Apple and Novell
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:28:03 GMT
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According to a review I read it seems to be possible to have a HP 4
attached to both an apple talk network, and to a Novell network at
the same time.  Is this truely possible?

Anyone doing this????

How well does it work???

Ray Todd Stevens
Contractor
Resource Protection Dept NSWC Crane Div.
Ray@safety.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil
(812) 854-3292  854-3294  854-3289
      854-3293  854-3482

    Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people
    that they are right, whether they are or not.
From: stephen@BOKONON.UUCP
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: Problem with "exit"-command in login script
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:47:05 GMT
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$We are running NOVELL 3.11 on our server and DOS 5.0
$on the workstations. When I try to run a programm with
$the login-script "exit" command I get this error-message:
$"The EXIT command followed by a string is not supported by this
$ machine"
$But I remember that when we were running DOS 4.01 EXIT worked fine.
$Can anybody help?

   EXIT "command" is only supported on PC-compatible systems.  If your
long machine type is set to IBM_PC, your system is considered to be
PC-compatible.  Otherwise, you must put the PCCOMPATIBLE command in
your login script to force NetWare to believe that your system is
fully compatible.

   The reason why is that EXIT "command" works by stuffing your
command string into the keyboard buffer.  It is assumed that on
IBM PCs, the keyboard buffer is in the same place; no such assumption
is made, for safety's sake, on non-compatible hardware.

-Steve
--
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Stephen M. Dunn, CNE, ACE, Sr. Systems Analyst, United System Solutions Inc.
104 Carnforth Road, Toronto, ON, Canada M4A 2K7               (416) 750-7946
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:33:31 EST
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From:         Mark Hall <MHALL@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      GUTEN ABEND ... NICHT!

Here's one...
I'm running NetWare 3.11 on a 486/50 EISA machine.  Inside, I've got two
1.4 GB Micropolis SCSI hard disks (mirrored), a 4 MB cache controller
(EISA), an Intel EtherExpress card (EISA), an Olicom Token Ring Card
(not a TRUE EISA card - 32 bit addressing, but 24 bit throughput), and
32 MB RAM.  All told, it's a beautiful system, all except for the fact
that it likes to ABEND at the most inopportune times, like when I'm
standing in a voting line for three hours without my beeper and no one
at my location who knows how to bring a server back online.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, there are indications that there is more
to the problem than just the occassional crash.  Everytime I try to run
PRODUCT INFORMATION from the INSTALL NLM, the system ABENDs (I say
"fortunately" because at least it's predictable.)  In addition, anytime
that I try to run BTRIEVE from the console, the BTRIEVE NLM also ABENDs
with the following messages
    ... 1.1.14 Module did not release 4 resources
               Resource: Service Connection Tasks
        1.1.16 Module did not release 253200 resources
               Resource: Btrieve Memory

As I mentioned, the only thing GOOD about any of this is at least its
predictable and reproducable.  Any ideas?  The BTRIEVE that I'm running
dates from around August 91.  I've done some hunting around on some of
the FTP servers, and not found a more recent release of BTRIEVE.  Even
if I do find a newer release, I'm not convinced that that's where the
problem is.  An ABENDing BTRIEVE could very well be nothing more than
a symptom of something more serious, more ominous ... something so
hideous that ... excuse me.

Anyway, give me your best shots...

Mark Hall, Network Swami
College of Pharmacy
The University of Georgia
MAH@merc.rx.uga.edu
MHALL@uga.cc.uga.edu
(706) 542-5297
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From: hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg)
Subject: Tranferring user defs to new server
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:36:16 GMT

I'm going from an old 386 server with a 300MB disk to a new 486 with an 
internal 100MB disk and an external 2GB Raidion array.   Now, how do I get 
all the user info properly transferred from the old to the new?

On the old server, everything was on volume SYS:; on the new one, I put the 
mail directories on SYS: (that's on the internal HD), but the userfiles go 
to the external volume (FRED:).

I used NCOPY to copy all files from the old server to the new.  Then I ran 
BINDFIX on the old server; took the resulting NET$*.OLD files, put them into 
SYS;SYSTEM on the new server, and ran BINDREST.

All the user names, passwords, groups and group assignments are there, but 
the trustee directory assignments are not.  Is there any way to transfer 
them, restore them, or whatever?

Or should I go about this in some totally different manner?
From: BPAPENFU@DATATEK.CSIR.CO.ZA
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Subject: MHS -LOSING TEXT BODY WHEN REPLYING
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:19:32 GMT
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We have a problem in that MHS seems to cut off the text body of a mail item
being returned by selecting the REPLY option from system A to system B.
The original item came from system B therefore , and when you receive it
back at system B ,you receive only an empty text area.
The opposite OTHER way around everything works FINE!
Now we are not sure which system is to blame, or how to solve the problem.

System A looks like this:

 - 386DX 33Mhz IBM compatible
 - DOS 5.00
 - MHS v1.42d
 - Da Vinci eMAIL 1.70d
 - Modem type US Robotics-Sportster
  2400/1200/300 bps internal modem

connecting to system B:
to MS-MAIL v2.1c           (Microsoft mail)
via MHS gateway for MS-MAIL ver2.1a
MHS ver 1.5n
Philips 2400 modem.

I personally think it might either be Da Vinci cutting the text off, or
Microsoft Mail (previously called COURIER) not being able to interpret a
returned item.
Please Help!

Ben Papenfus
BPAPENFU@datatek.csir.co.za
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:15:07 -0500
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From:         "Scott A. Jenkins" <sjenkins@INFO.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Offweek FAQ Reminder

    The FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) list for this mailing list is
automatically mailed every second Monday (this reminder is mailed on
the alternate Mondays).  The FAQ contains basic information such as how
to subscribe and unsubscribe, as well as questions and answers about
commonly used programs such as Pegasus Mail, Charon, as well as information
about ODI issues, and more.
    If you don't want to wait for the biweekly FAQ mailing, you may get
it via anonymous ftp:

FAQ Access Information:
    To get the NOVELL@SUVM FAQ via ftp, ftp to info.umd.edu (128.8.10.29).
Get either faq.txt (straight ASCII) or faq.wp (WordPerfect 5.1) from the
info/Computers/Novell/Information directory.
    The FAQ contains information on subscribing to the mailing list as well
as other general list-related administrative information, pointers to
Novell related FTP sites, information on how to access the info.umd.edu
system via a user-friendly telnet front-end, as well as general Novell
related information.
    You may also want to explore the rest of the info heirarchy.  The
Novell/Utilities and PC/Utilities in particular contain many useful
programs.
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From: sba@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Steve Barrett)
Subject: Mountable CD Drive
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  5 Nov 92 18:30:11 GMT

We would like to attach a CD drive to our server and let users mount CDs
as a volumn whenever needed.  Is anyone doing this kind of a thing?  Any
information would be helpful.  Also vendor contact info would be of use.

Thanx, Steveb
smb1@cornell.edu
  

 


B

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:02:03 CST
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From:         Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      wireless for distances?

> I'm looking for some information and/or suggestions:

>First, would anyone have info. on a company called Cylink?  I remember
>their salesperson calling me about a product called Airlink (I think?).
>In typical fashion, I didn't pay enough attention because there was no
>need at the time.  Now (of course) I need this information.  This is
>what leads to the suggestions part:

>Other than this Airlink product, (which so far only exists in some
>crevice in the back of my mind) does anyone have any suggestions as to
>how I can connect buildings which are from 1/4 of a mile to  2
>miles away, to my network?  We would like NOT to run copper of any
>kind.  We already have fiber to about 60ish buildings, but none in the
>vacinity of these.  I'd just as soon not dig a trench (labor costs,
>etc.) if possible.  Any ideas would be most welcome, and appreciated.

Check out the NCR WaveLan boards.  When used with directional antennae
they have a range of 3 miles or so.  Several departments on this campus
are using them and are very pleased with performance and reliability.
Cost is quite reasonable as well.

>Thanks,


>Nick Cutry                         voice: (315)379-5971
>Network Manager                    Bitnet: NCUT@SLUMUS or CUTRY@STLAWU
>Computer Services                  Compu$erve: 76424,144 or 73257,2537
>St. Lawrence University
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From:         don g <DON@DYNASTY.CC.PDX.EDU>
Subject:      CHARON Loader

I assume this is the right list for this question; if not, please
direct me to the correct list.

I'm having problems loading LOADER on a CHARON server executing
CHARON v 4.00.

I've tried all the iterations I can think of for the

  "map root *1:=[volid:charon_dir]"
        and
  "loader [our_local_id]:  [ourvolid:our_charon_dir]"

syntax, and have succeeded in -consistently- receiving the message:
   "Error 0x5 during map root  User[our_local_id],Password(), Drive G=
             path[our_charon_dir]

after trying to execute loader.

Hints?  Tips?  Clues?  Help?

TIA.
Please, TIA.

don g.                x5-3112              don@dynasty.cc.pdx.edu
OIS/MASS, Portland State University, Portland (City of Roses), OR
- Two wrongs don't make a right; three lefts do.
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From:         "Scott.Smith" <PER12@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Printer cost

Here is my simplistic solution.  It doesn't take into consideration the costs
for the printer itself, maintenance, or wear-and-tear.

1. Determine paper costs by taking the price of a unit of paper (ream, case,
etc.) and divide that by the number if sheets in the unit, giving the price
per sheet of paper.

2. Determine toner cost by taking the price for a toner cartridge and dividing
it by the average life-span of that cartridge, in number of sheets.  Include
any shipping costs to recyclers or anything else that affects the cost of the
toner cartridge.  Note: the average life span of HP Laserjet II and Laserjet
III cartridges is around 4000 sheets, single sided.  I don't know what the
numbers are for the IIIsi or the new Laserjet IV.

3. Add the results from #1 and #2 together to get the average cost per sheet
of paper printed.

I guess if you wanted to make it more accurate you would have to figure in
costs of purchase and maintenance over a given time span for a given number of
sheets of paper you might crank through the thing.  But I hate amortization,
don't you?

Scott Smith
Human Resource Information Systems
Michigan State University              PER12@MSU.EDU   PER12@MSU.BITNET
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:51:15 -0800
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From:         Henry Unger <hunger@HITECH.COM>
Subject:      SLIP and ODI
              11 Nov 1992 16:24:35 GMT <9211122342.AA24212@hitech.com>

Slow is relative.  Are you saying slower than 19,200 would suggest?  Our
Internet connection is via SLIP at 19,200 and it performs ok.

Henry
From: BAJOMOA@VAX.SOUTHBANK-UNIVERSITY.AC.UK
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Subject: RE: How to find out Network Interface card's address
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:43:00 GMT
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Via:      UK.AC.SBANK.VAX; 10 NOV 92 19:43:45 GMT

Anne,

I think I sent you a reply destined for a colleague of mine. Please ignore it!!!
Now to your question.
Provided you know the RAM base address of your card, say D000, you then add the
amount of memory used as shared RAM to it in hexadecimal. This amount is
 usually8K for eight bit cards.

So, if the base address on your card is D000, the address to exclude in your
EMM386 line will be: X=D000-D1FF.

I hope this is helpful.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:02:08 CST
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Comments:     Resent-From: Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1>
Comments:     Originally-From: "David A. Eddy" <DAVID@WMHMIS1.WMH.IUPUI.EDU>
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From:         Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      NDIS Driver for Ne2000 card

>Does anyone know where I can find NDIS drivers for a NE2000 Card?

     VAX.FTP.COM  cd ndis

>Thanks for the help!

>David A. Eddy
>Director of Management Information Systems
>Wishard Memorial Hospital
>Indianapolis, Indiana
>Phone: 317-630-6309
>E-mail: DAVID@WMHMIS1.WMH.IUPUI.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:34:39 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Mac performance

>I trying to get a feel for the load causes by using the Mac NLMs on a
>Netware file server.  Can anyone who's using it report how much strain the
>Macs cause, what the Macs are used for etc.  No of Macs, config of server
>would be useful.
>
>We have an Olivetti Netframe NF300 with 6GB of Disk, 56MB of RAM and 4 I/O
>processors (i.e. 4 SCISI controllers and 4 ethernet cards).  The file
>server supports about 170 PCs and about 50 Macs, and is running like a dog.
> Having talked to Carl Armdahl about the problem, he's response was that
>Ethertalk/Appleshare was extremely CPU intensive.  What I really need to
>know is how many Macs can be supported for file serving (i.e. Applications
>and data from the server) by various configs of server (e.g. 386 33Mhz,
>486's etc.)
>
>If there's enough replies I post a summary.
>
>Thanks in advance,

>   Paul C. Manning
>   Senior Computer Officer
>   Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
>   University of Leicester
>   University Road
>   Leicester LE1 7RH
>   U.K.
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        Better than asking is to measure yourself. LOAD MONITOR -P to get
the Performance screens. Also check the qty of buffers allocated on the
main Monitor screen, and particularly the packet error rates for each lan
adapter. Your server should be fast and running stone cold with that number
of users and supporting iron. If it looks chilly then get a network analyzer
and crimp tool to find all the rotten 10baseT connections in the wiring plant
that might be causing packets to be dropped willy nilly under load.
        Joe D.
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From:         ACS_NETWORK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: wireless for distances?

I've been talking with a company called Persoft. They make a spread
spectrum product that they say will go up to 3 miles. List price for the
ethernet version is $6495 per end which includes either an omnidirectional
or yagi antenna. The product is called Intersect Remote Bridge. Note
that you get a bridged link in the deal (supports spanning tree and
optional DES encryption). Throughput is 2.0 Mbps.

Persoft, Inc.
465 Science Dr.
P.O. Box 44953
Madison, Wisconsin 53744-4953
(608)273-6000
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 10:21:08 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TimeZone

>>This whole business is really quite confusing; trying it out here in the U.K.
>It most certainly is and it seems the more info I get, the more confused
>>      <etc>
>Your Unix people should use the Network Time Protocol (NTP) to periodically
>sychronize their clock with other NTP servers on the internet. NTP is a
>UDP based protocol described in RFC1119. I can get you more help on this
>if you need it.
>>
>>As regards setting the timezone variable (yes, it really is `timezone') that's
>>just a matter of typing, at the console, `set timezone=gmt'. It can also be
>>set in the autoexec.ncf.
>The timezone must be set early in autoexec.ncf before any NLM is
>loaded which would call CLIB (such as pserver or tcpip).
>
>It seems to me that a useful enhancement to Netware would be an NLM
>similar to rdate but which used NTP for time synchronization. So long
>as we would also tell our Netware servers which country we were in
>(since the daylight savings time algorithm is dependent upon this)
>and which timezone we were in, then with all of this information
>the server could keep very accurate time every day of the year.
>Our Unix systems do it now. Why not also our Netware systems?
>
>Brian Cassidy <BPC@UNB.CA>
--------------------
        I disagree on NTP. If we look at the size and total messiness of
the Unix NTP daemons then I would not want such a thing close to my file
server. Why waste Large memory resources on setting the %*^&*!@@# clock!
        For those not yet familiar with Network Time Protocol, it's a way of
polling several sites via the Internet (or running a special radio receiver)
and juggling things to come up with a roughly 1 millisecond accuracy. The
xntpd on my Unix box is gosh awful (228KB resident, wants 900KB to really
run), but it does work. It is much simpler to leave all that stuff to a site
master machine and use Daytime or Time to get the current time to 1 second
accuracy, which is what the Murkworks rdate.nlm does. Timezone algorithms
exist which attempt to list the zillions of legislative pecularities of
daylight time, but few people are aware of it and fewer know how to use it.
        When Brad improves rdate.nlm to stay active after losing touch with
its time server I think it will be sufficient for our NetWare servers. I'd
like to see rdate.nlm have a list of two or three servers to act as backups.
        Joe D.
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