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From: smaher@ismdqa.intel.com (Steve Maher ~)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Who's Number 2?
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:53:28 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp.

In article <PSM.93Jan4163102@soupfin.cs.indiana.edu> psm@cs.indiana.edu (Paul S. Miner) writes:
>In article <C0CLwz.7Kv@inews.Intel.COM> smaher@ismdqa.intel.com (Steve Maher ~) writes:
>
>>AAAARRRRRGGHH!!!!
>
>>Tell me WHY a 2-loss Indiana team is rated above BOTH North Carolina and
>>Kansas???  ESPECIALLY since KU beat them out there?  I think Kansas got 
>>unfairly hammered by the CNN/USAT poll...
>
>>Steve(JayhawkinSiliconValley)Maher
>>...And I don't think it's because I'm biased either...
>
>Probably because the votes were cast prior to the game between Kentucky and
>Indiana. 

Best answer I've heard yet.  This would make some sense, although 2 teams with
1 loss and one team had it at the hands of the other would indicate that you
rate them closely, but rate the winner slightly higher.  

My top 9:	1. Duke  (look strong, beat UM)
		2. UK    (look strong, beat IU)
		3. UM    (lost to Duke @ Duke, beat UNC, KU)
		4. UNC   (strong wins, lost close to UM)
		5. KU    (lost to UM, beat IU)
		6. IU    (lost to UK, KU, beat Seton Hall)
		7. da Hall  (lost to IU, don't look quite as strong as other 6)
		8. Iowa  (looking impressive against weaker competition)
		9. Purdue/Oklahoma/several others not quite there yet.

Steve(JayhawkinSiliconValley)Maher
...let the REAL games begin (conference round-robins)...
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From: hamel@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Hamel)
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:02:05 GMT

In article <8496@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>In article <726782931@stego.cs.duke.edu> rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
>>your nose in with his elbow, that that's not a foul either.  Mackey didn't
>>move so that he could give a forearm to the head, that's just where Hurley ran
>>into him at.  Mackey did have a slight forward motion of his arm, but
>>it seemed more reflexive than anything.
>
>BFD, it doesn't matter if it was reflexive or not.  I agree that it
>wasn't intentional (I hope), but he definitely did swing his arm out.
>That's a big difference -- if he had kept still the foul would have been
>on Hurley, if anyone (but probably would have been a no-call).  Dumb
>move by Mackey.  I remember a similar series in '88 or '89 where Quin
>Snyder was bringing the ball upcourt against some team with a small,
>quick guard who was giving him trouble.  Coach K posted Danny Ferry out
>at midcourt to give Snyder a screen to help him get the ball over.
>Well, three times in a row this little guy ran full speed into Ferry and
>got decked.  After the third time he had to be helped off the court.
>The point being, as long as he kept stationary (and didn't take a swing
>at the guy), he didn't foul him.  That's not what Mackey did.

Are you for real?  Hurley ran full speed into Mackey and you actually expect
Mackey not to move one iota.  Try doing that on the blacktop yourself and
see if *YOU* can keep from moving a little when someone runs into *YOU*
that fast.  Come on.  You're one of the few who didn't see that play for
what it was.....and it certainly wasn't a foul by Mackey.  I think
everyone can understand you're being upset at having your star point 
guard end up on the floor like that.  Nobody likes that sort of thing.
However, it was not a true foul that caused it IMHO.

-- 
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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Cal score?
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:51:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.203153.7251@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.173153.28905@newsgate.sps.mot.com> george_paap@email.sps.mot.com (George Paap) writes:
>>Does any one know the Oregon and Oregon State vs Cal scores?
>>Believe it or not, the Statesman here in Austin doesn't
>>carry the "far" west scores (they must go to press at
>>8pm) and often doesn't carry them the next day.  Makes
>>me actually miss the Daily Cal.
>
>Cal pasted Oregon 82-65 (I think).
>
>Apparently they came out flat against OSU, fell behind by 10 or 15,
>tied it with a minute left, but lost 64-63.
>
>I know it's early, but I think if Cal can beat Stanford this week, it 
>will be the key to Cal having a very good season.  
>

I'd put it this way: if Cal *doesn't* beat Stanford, they're in 
trouble.  Cal is bigger and more talented, and they have every reason
to be motivated, having been pounded twice by the Cardinal last
year.  The Bears get to play them at Harmon after "hosting" Stanford
last year at Oakland Coliseum where about 45% of the crowd was 
rooting for Stanford.  Cal is coming off a close loss and needs to
get over .500 in the Pac-10.  

If Cal loses, look for them to be up and down all season--those
losses in New Jersey will start to look like a pattern of 
periodic subpar performances. 

If Cal wins, it will be an indication that they are winning games
where they are clearly favored at home--that's all. 

Ken "The Ken in Cliff's Updates" B.
From: hallg@egr.msu.edu (Gregory Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Michigan State and the Big Ten
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:04:46 GMT
Reply-To: hallg@egr.msu.edu (Gregory Hall)
Organization: Michigan State University
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I had the unfortunate experience of witnessing last Saturday's Illinois-MSU
game.  Both teams ayed solid defense as evidenced by the 52-39 final score,
but it's MSU's offense that is offensive!

If the Spartans don't get productive nights from Respert and Peplowski, they
will have trouble beating any team in the league.  Here is a tip to all Big
Ten Coaches who may be listening.  Play a sagging zone against the Spartans
and dare anyone except Respert to shoot.  Double on Peplowski and the Spartans
will have trouble scoring 60 points.

The Spartans shouldn't be a poor offensive team with guys like Miller, Stephens,
Weshinsky and Zulauf being all capable scorers at times, but right now they
lack confidence and become frustrated when the shots don't fall.

To all Illini fans:  I was impressed with your teams defense and you have a 
team on the rise.  I could see the Illini anywhere from 3rd to 7th in the Big 11

Greg Hall
Michigan State University
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From: orourke@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael O'Rourke)
Subject: Kansas vs. Oklahoma -- Thoughts?  
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:32:55 GMT


Since I couldn't watch the game tonight, I was hoping that those of
you with cable and True Insight into the game of college basketball
could fill me in.  On the face of it, an 11 pt. win over improving
Oklahoma at Lloyd Noble looks pretty damned impressive.  (Which is not
to say that they *looked good* in winning; I'm sure that some team
like, say, Indiana, would have looked much better, win or lose.)  Was
it?  Did they play like a #4 team?  Or did they play like a #5 team?
(UNC fans should be able to help me here.)

It is good to see Walters score a little.  He must snap out of his
prolonged slump if KU is to do anything in the Big Eight and beyond.
Also, it is nice to see KU do well against a team that has impressive
size in the frontcourt.  The last team they faced that had any size at
all humiliated them.  (Of course, KU did not have Greg Ostertag -- The
Most Underrated Back-up Center in the Country -- in the Michigan
game.)  

By the way, is it my imagination, or does the Big Eight suck this
year?  Missouri losing to USF, K-State losing to Wichita State,
Nebraska barely defeating UMKC, O-State being humbled by Cal, etc. And
the conference is 2-8 against ranked non-conference opponents. KU and
OU seem competitive, but the rest are marginal, at best.  NU and ISU
have the talent, but they have been inconsistent.  The conference
may only get 4 teams into the tournament.  (What has happened to
Mizzou?  I thought they would be a Top 20 team this season.)

Rock Chalk
orourke@csli.stanford.edu

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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: BIG upset in girl's hoops...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:28:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Although this is a high school report, I'd thought I'd post a quick review
as Wisconsin fans might find it interesting. Last Wednesday, Janesville Parker
(WI) upset Chicago Marshall 73-68 in the final of the Optimist Charity Classic
hosted by perennial power Pius XI High School. Marshall was the number one
ranked team in the country according to USA Today. Leading the way for Parker
was Jennah Burkholder, a 6-1 senior, who played every position (G,F,C) on the
floor for the Vikings. She brought the ball up against the Marshall press,
scored from the post, paint and perimeter, and generally had a huge game.
When Parker upset Pius on Tuesday, Pius Coach Joel Claassen said of Burkholder,
"She didn't play like an all-state player, she played like an all-american."

All in all, good news for Badger women's hoops fans.

--salty

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: B. Knight transfers
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:11:07 GMT

In article <DOEL.93Jan7161134@bbq.bae.bellcore.com> doel@bae.bellcore.com  
(Michael Doel) writes:

> Real Cincinnati chili can only be found at Skyline restraunts.  Gold Star
> chili is also pretty close.  Everything else is just a copout.  While at
> Ohio State, they'd have Cincinnati chili night at the commons, and I'll be
> damned if they served us anything resembling what I grew up on.

For the obligatory Duke viewpoint, they served Cincinnati chili
on campus (at the Rat) in Spring of 91 - basically a chili with
spices like cinnamon instead of chili powder, and served over
spaghetti or noodles.  

The flavor reminded many of the Neill McGeachy year.

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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: Who's Number 2?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:36:22 CST

In article <C0CLwz.7Kv@inews.Intel.COM> smaher@ismdqa.intel.com (Steve Maher ~) writes:
>>In article <ASH.93Jan4084025@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>>
>>The latest AP poll isn't out yet (or if it is I haven't seen it),
>>but the CNN/USA Today poll now has:
>>
>>1.  Duke
>>2.  Kentucky
>>3.  Michigan
>>4.  Indiana
>>5.  North Carolina
>>6.  Kansas
>>7.  Seton Hall
>>8.  Iowa
>>9.  Purdue
>>10. Oklahoma
>
>AAAARRRRRGGHH!!!!
>
>Tell me WHY a 2-loss Indiana team is rated above BOTH North Carolina and
>Kansas???  ESPECIALLY since KU beat them out there?  I think Kansas got 
>unfairly hammered by the CNN/USAT poll...
>
>Steve(JayhawkinSiliconValley)Maher
>...And I don't think it's because I'm biased either...

If the AP was based purely on record, Minnesota would be in the top 10 in the
nation.  
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From: robert@world.std.com (Robert Sadowski)
Subject: Re: UC beats UMASS
Keywords: UC, Bearcats, UMass
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:20:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.185943.17815@cybvax0.uucp> wbs@cybvax0.UUCP (William B. Solomon) writes:
>For the record,  Cincinatti was the favorite in this game. Anywhere
>from 1-1/2 to 3 points.  Coach Huggins lied to his team by telling
>them that they were 5 point underdogs in order to motivate them.

According to who ? This game went off at Cinci +3 1/2 

>William Solomon

--
Robert Sadowski
robert@world.std.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:13:40 EST
From: Wb-1 <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Confusing #1 UK/#1 Vandy post!!!

The UK/Vandy post was very confusing to read. Why?  USA Today --
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Men's Rankings-
No.  1 Kentucky
    23 Vanderbilt
Women's Rankings-
No.  1 Vanderbilt
No. 23 Kentucky
          And just think of the two women's teams played each other for their
next game, then the entire world would be confused! :-)
                                              Basketball interesting stats!
** Rob **
From: urogue@mcl.ucsb.edu (Dave Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: CNN/USA Today Rankings (1/11)
Keywords: rankings
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:49:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.urogue.726824982

In <C0oznt.768@babbage.ece.uc.edu> saji@snert.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji) writes:


>	USA TODAY /  CNN   TOP - 25  (Coaches Poll) (1/11/93)
>	-----------------------------------------------------


[...]


>	Others Receiving Votes:	Boston College 69, Florida 66, UMASS 52,
>	New Mexico State 42, BYU 39, Southern Cal 38, Tulane 38, Utah 30,
>	Long Beach State 28, California 27, Pittsburgh 27, Houston 25, 
>        Illinois 24, Louisville 20, Xavier 17, Memphis State 15, Missouri 14,
>	Texas-El Paso 12, West Virginia 11, Wake Forest 9, Southwestern 

        Louisiana 6, UCSB 5, Southern Illinois 5, Delaware 4, Rhode Island 4,

>	Louisiana State 3, Temple 2, Iowa State 1, Marquette 1, Maryland 1, 
>	Miami(Ohio) 1, New Orleans 1.

Looks like a line was omitted accidentially.

I had to include that since it contains us (UCSB).  ;-)

>  GO BEARCATS !!!!!!!!

GO GAUCHOS!!!!!!    :-)


-Dave
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Subject: ex-Illini
From: <CSS3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:30:32 EST
Organization: Penn State University

   Does anyone out there know what happened to Nick Anderson and Marcus Liberty
after they left Illinois? I recall they both played on the 1988-89 Illini team
that went to the Final Four in Seattle. If memory is correct, both left school
early to go to the NBA.
    Illinois fans might want to comment on Liberty's play while at
 Illinois. As I recall, he was a highly-touted player out of high school but
 then had to sit out a year due to Prop 48. I seem to recall he played well for
 Illinois but didn't quite live up to the expectations many Illini faithful had
 for him. Any opinions?

 craig sanders
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Mackey's Screen on Hurley
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:18:50 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <pu#@byu.edu> $garyf@SASB.BYU.EDU (Gary B. Fitzgerald) writes:
>After watching it a dozen times now, it looked like a legal screen to me.  
>However, others watching with me thought quite the opposite.  So was it a 
>legal screen or not?

The screen was legal; the forearm wasn't.  

If he had kept his forearm by his side, it would have been a legal play
(and a good one).  But when he raised it just before he made contact, he
committed the foul (as he made contact, if you want to be picky).  I
imagine it was just a reflex, but reflex or no, still a foul.

Others disagree.  But it's a moot issue anyway.

- Rob Mac K



-- 
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Duke-Oklahoma Game Summary
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:30:59 CST

In article <1993Jan7.162416.27973@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin) writes:
>
>	How do other top teams compare?  Indiana lost to non-conference
>	foe Kansas at home this year, for example.

Sigh...  Indiana did NOT lose to Kansas at home.  They lost to Kansas in
the Hoosier Dome.  Indiana's home court is Assembly Hall in Bloomington,
Indiana.  Admittedly, it is practicly a home crowd for IU, but it is not
their home court.  It does make a slight difference.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
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Subject: Re: Our Championship (was: Re: Trivia - woof - anti-woof)
Date: 9 Jan 93 06:01:17 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan8.200025.3559@news.uiowa.edu> wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:
>It is easy for Coach K to credit the crowd for victories when Duke typically
>plays its first 4 tourney games in its own back yard.  This is totally an

Yeah, especially in '91.  Loyal Dukies could drive from Durham to
sub-regional games in Minneapolis and regional games in Detroit and
still be back in time for supper.

It was also totally unfair to hold the '92 Final Four in Minneapolis,
since Duke was the only school not from the midwest (and in driving
distance) and thus arrived by the planeload, unwearied by long car trips
and ready to give Duke an unfair advantage.

My heart bleeds for you.

- Rob Mac K



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From: fls@acpub.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Free throw shooting
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:34:46 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


	The reason three-point shooting is off is because of the
three-point circle.
	Before the three-point line was painted, there was only one
distance of shot to practice, a free throw.  All other shots were taken
from wherever they became available.
	The invention of the three-point circle caused two problems.
First, as I said, players now practice shooting from a second line, one
about 19'?" from the basket.
	The second problem is a matter of strength.  As players have
extended their shooting range to encompass the three-point arc, it has
become harder for them to hold back a little to hit a free throw.  
	If the free-throw line were moved to behind the 3-point circle,
in a couple of years everyone would be shooting 80+% for free throws and
better than 50% for 3-pointers.

fls@keynes.econ.duke.edu
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From: will@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (William Sadler)
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight: A Year-by-Year Chronology
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:14:54 GMT

In <104186@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:

>Since I first posted this several years ago, Bobby Knight has continued
>to amaze us all and to rigorously defend his position as the biggest
>asshole in college sports.  I've added some additional info at the
>bottom, indicating where I'm unsure of dates or details; additional
>information as always welcome, as I like to post this annually in
>order to remind IU supporters that no matter how well their teams play,
>and no matter how good their players may be, their coach is an
>embarassment to their team, their school, and the Big Ten.

>---Rsk

>			What's next Bobby?
>	(reprinted w/o permission from the Indianapolis News)

>A list of incidents involving Indiana basketball coach Bobby Knight.

Didn't we go through this list last year???  Didn't most of this stuff
turn out to be false and/or misleading at that time?  


Get a life.

Will
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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Utah Drills New Mexico
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:01:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <4JAN199314070170@cc.utah.edu> ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes:
>Utah 78, New Mexico 45
>
>(BOX at end)
>
>The state of Utah was burried by as much as 36" of snow, and the Lobos of 
>New Mexico were burried by a strong performance by the Utes.  As a game 
>hyped as a conference opening battle between two title contenders, this was
>a total route.  Utah simply crushed the Lobos.

Interesting.  The victory margin was almost the same as the number of 
inches of snow.  There's got to be deep philosophical significance to
that, but I don't know what it is.

>Head coach Rick Majerus missed the New Mexico game for the second time in 
>two years.  Last year he was hospitalized with a viral infection, and this
>year he took off to North Carolina due to a death in the family.  The coaching
>duties then fell to Asst. coach Joe Cravens who has taken over before, most
>notably for the entire season three years ago when the Maji was recovering 
>from heart surgery (septuple bypass ? I think that means 6x).  Ironically,

Majerus better watch out.  If the Johnny Majors-Phil Fulmer situation at
Tennessee is any indication, Rick may be replaced as head coach at Utah.
Particularly if his assistants keep on winning games so handily.

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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Jan 93 01:25:10 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

Chris Metzler:

ME> Helluva game, folks!

Yep

ME> What did people think?  I was very impressed with Travis Best.

I thought Tech would struggle with him on the bench. Those fouls really
hurt. God why is it that Duke gets so many calls their way. It's crazy
when you look at how many foul shots they took compared to Tech. Is it
because of their agressive offense or what?

ME> I was not very impressed with any of the Dookies but Grant Hill.
ME> He had a good game, but I don't think as great as the announcers
ME> seemed to think.  Sometimes it seemed like they'd heap praise
ME> on him if he burped, but that's my opinion.

Well he is awesome. He deserved all their praise and then some. Did you
see that one baseline shot where he was almost horizontal, and he made the
shot. He's incredibly athletic. 

This was a classic ACC game, and it was fun to watch. The one thing that
pissed me off was the foul they gave to Mackey on that screen. Hey, that
was no foul. Hurley ran into Mackey, plain and simple. I'm starting to
think these media darlings get special treatment. <g>

Mike Dunnagan ---

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