HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: I am innocent
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:42:09 GMT
Organization: IBM
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <92274.110904U61508@uicvm.uic.edu>, U61508@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> Hi everyone,
>   Do you know who I am? if not, don't bother to read this, it's none of
> your business, get out of here.  If you know who I am, did you read the
> previous news "MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER"  I type this only for someone else
> name A____ T___.  So don't think I'm a lesbian. Bye!!!!

By filling the blanks, the name could be Alan Tam. 8=>

First posting in this newsgroup.
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From: fellow@cs.utexas.edu (Heng Wei Osbert Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Coming Home -- and Cashing In
Date: 30 Sep 1992 11:27:49 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: estoril.cs.utexas.edu

Following excerpt is extracted from Oct 5 issue of BusinessWeek, reproduced 
without permission.
Please read BusinessWeek for it's entirety. 
_____________________________________________________________________

[...] in a colony once feared a massive brain drain, the talk these days
is about the brain gain. [...] An estimated 30,000 young professionals have 
returned in the past 12 months, while the outflow has leveled off. Hong Kong,
it turns out, looks like a land of opportunity, while the supposed safe havens
(Australia, Canada & USA) are in prolonged economics slumps. Moreover, the
returnees believe thay can come home safely because the hold "insurance 
policies"--foriegn passports--against threatening moves by Beijing.

[...]As Canada's economy stagnates and Australia's unemployment hits 11%, the 
jobless rate in Hong Kong is below 2%, and its economy is growing a snappy
5% this year.

[...]There's plenty of work around. Just open a South China Morning Post any
Saturday and leaf through the employment ads--as many as 150 pages. Ironically,
China having scared off Hong Kong's best educated, is now generating jobs for
them: Many returnees are starting new businesses or getting jobs that produce
goods for the fast growing China market. And once Beijing and London iron out 
the last financing wrinkles for Hong Kong's $22 billion airport, and railway
project, as many as 40,000 new jobs could open up.

[...]The influx doesn't mean the faers about 1997 have disappeared. For 
educated Hong Kong residents who lack "insurance policies", the worries
are deep, and many are still leaving. Even some of those with foriegn passport
are planning to leave within five years.

[...]But most returnees are betting that China won't turn it's back on 
economic reform.

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Comments, pls ?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: u9259236@cc.uow.edu.au (Leslie Shing Chi Tong)
Subject: Re: The best pop group in HK
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 06:19:21 GMT

lilau@burn.Princeton.EDU (Li Wing Lau) writes:

>Speaking of the band Tat-ming 1 pai, whatever happened to
>Lau Yi-tat and Wong Yeu-ming after the group disbanded?

>Li Wing Lau
Wong released a CD back a few months ago(last year???),not sure about lau
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:51:27 GMT
Subject: Re: pretty women, good wives?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

It looks like the last two netter agreed on, we should respect women. I agree
too. Maybe I should re-write some of my sentence. When I say "We should never
let our wife to work .." means that,"we should never needed our wife to work
for a living because we cannot earn enough." I belive a lot of men failed on
this. And I should underline the word "protected". I means to protect against
outside danger and fear instead of bar them at home. A lot of men failed to
do so. I bet many men would be the first one to run away from danger and 
left their wife, children behind. My purpose to write this was because there
is a lot of post treating women as object. Before we say such thing, we should
asked ourselves first, "Can we offer this to become a big man?". The answer
for 99% is "NO". Then we should better shut up.

But in case anyone of us has such qulifacation and some lady wants to be owned,
what is the problem. May be the word "own" is a bit too strong. I think the
chinese term, Yung Yau is a bit better. You can't own a person, but you can
Yung Yau a person's love. You can Yung Yau a family etc.


I also want to point out. While women are cliaming they are bad treated. On 
the other hand, Women are enjoying some advantage as being a woman. These 
advantage are given by men (may be our fault). e.g. When you crush with a
women, the third person always help the woman (is it really still happen in
states). It is acceptable for a sacked women to stay at home caring their bady,
but not a men. I feel the pressure put on a man to support his family is much
than heavier than on a woman. 
I belive the role of a person in a society is balance. If you demands one 
thing, you must gave up something else. 

Is men and women treated equaly in a society? No.
If we put it in a scale from 0 (total female domanation) to 10 (total male
domanation). The situation would be 9.? in Arabic counties. Around 6 to 7
in States, or may be 7 to 8 in Hong Kong. But it is a grey area. Would 
men and women ever be equal? Difficult to tell, but things are improving.

My comment
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: The *ugliest* female in HK (Re: The * prettiest * female in HK (Was Re: Beauty Pageant : sexist?))
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:19:46 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <Bv7z7r.C4v@acsu.buffalo.edu> wchau@acsu.buffalo.edu (Wun-Chun Chau) writes:
>>I vote for 1)Ng Kwun Yu, 2) Anita Mui, 3) Vivian Chow, 4) Kwan Suk Yee... and ofcourse 5) Yip Tse May!
>>
>NO SHIT! mang! Vivian Chow? You are damn blind, mang! Vivian Chow is one of
>the most beautiful female in the world! Since looks+brain = constant ? :)

If you mean that her brain is the worst in the world and that's why
she is the most beautiful, how do you justify it.
I saw her several times (within 5 feet) and I don't find her extremely
pretty.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kilee@cougar.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kim Lee)
Subject: Re: Chinese wife is good? (Was: Why? Why? Now I'm going to tell you why.)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:37:23 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) writes:

>In article <6130125@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>>soc.culture.hongkong / wchau@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Wun-Chun Chau) /  4:45 am  Sep 29, 1992 /
>>
>>>Thanx, but I have to admit that I failed. She said she has had a boyfriend
>>>already, and that doesn't want to go through the trouble to break up with him...
>>>well, at least that excuse wouldn't hurt that much... :(
>>
>>>Wish me better luck next time.
>>
>>That's the trouble of HK boys like us. In University, or all other chinese
>>societies, most of us are kept us away from those girls having boyfriend 
>>(including me). Whenever that girl changed boyfriend, we blamed ourselves,
>>"Why didn't I Hui Ma in the right time?". If happened all the time.
>>
>>Come on, Hui Ma.
>	  ^^^^^^
>	** I suppose you're saying "Go Horse!", that sounds funny! Hahah!

>       ** just say "Go  Dick !!", is more direct and efficient.. hahah


	** I used to be more or less like you when I was a kid. But, well,
>	   I wouldn't be happy to "Hui Ma", knowing that the girl I liked 
>	   had just broken up with someone and she would want me because
>	   she needed someone new...although I might regret...

>	** And yes, I hate to regret things, even now.

>---Cheers,
>	Bill
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Subject: Re: $$$ Short News in UST $$$ (Boys must read it!)
Keywords: Pretty Female Doctor
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:50:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.022329.17106@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong Poon) writes:
[lines deleted...]
>
>Just curious, what kind of sickness do they "have" B-)
>
>Have fun!!!
>
>								Poon.

The following finger information can reveal our "CHEUNG WAI" diseases in
HKUST.

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From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The dangers of rn :)
Summary: Reading News too.
Keywords: Dangerous
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:56:59 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


  From a serious rns patient: Subscribing to schk and reading and 
  following up posts can be harzardous to your study. :)

  P.S. rns = rn syndrome 

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From: 893woo@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Stand up girls! Re:Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:04:09 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <80795@ut-emx.uucp>, shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dreamer) writes:
> 
>   Love is two ways. Give and take.  Chinese husbands are the most terrible one.
> They are very selfish.  Most of them think their jobs in the family is only
> to bring money home.  Nothing else!  They don't care about their wives feeling
>  or their needs.
> 

Sorry Teresa,
    although I don't really like to criticize others' point of view, but this
time, as a Chinese guy, I really think that you are too subjective. I admit
that there are a lot of terrible Chinese husbands out there, but there are also 
lots of good husbands too. May be you are not lucky enough to meet any of them,
but I have some that will help their wives pick up grocery stuff after work,
and even help their wives cook after work. Seems like their jobs in the family
is not only to bring money home! If you rank Chinese husbands are the most 
terrible, then how do you rank Japanese. Those Japanese husbands go to work 
real early in the morning and come home after 9 or 10 pm (some for overtime 
work but some just hang in the bar pretending they are doing overtime work),
and on Sunday, those guys just lie there and watch TV, they will not take their
children out cause they are tired(my Japanese girlfriend told me this, she kind
of dislike her father when she was small cause he didn't have too much chances
to talk to him during a week).
                             
   Jim.
From: poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong Poon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: $$$ Short News in UST $$$ (Boys must read it!)
Keywords: Pretty Female Doctor
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:23:29 GMT
Reply-To: poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong Poon)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <1992Oct3.125722.29458@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:

>Hi, all guys, a piece of short news here in HKUST:
>
>######   		Begin of News		########
>
>In this semester, there comes a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry pretty young girl doctor
>in UST.  Someone even said that she can participate to be Miss Hong Kong?!
>Woww....woww...!!!!~~~~~~~~
>The consequence is that all the guys here (including some Dept. Heads)
>are sick recently (suddenly all the guys become very weak and thin in UST, 
>how dramatic!), but what they did is not to see "disease" but to
>see "doctor".

Just curious, what kind of sickness do they "have" B-)

Have fun!!!

								Poon.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu)
Subject: Re: What happened to Leon...???
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:41:08 GMT

ins903u@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Rayson Wong) writes:

>Hey great to see so much activity in this news group in the last week or
>so. Most of the material coming in are based upon the popularity of
>some Hong Kong celebs ie best/worst/male/female singers/actors blah blah
>blah....But what I have noticed is that there has only been a mention of
>Lai Ming once. Is his popularity a myth? Are the people who make him so
>popular only hormonally deranged teenage girls, whose older brothers or
>sisters won;t let them use the network to voice their opinions?
> <DELETE>

  Most of those girls have never heard of uunet news. And perhaps they
don't even know what computer is. Am I joking? Nah, I bet those girls
would believe the keybord or the monitor is computer they are using.

>	Well thats enough for now...Hope to solve this mystery about Leon,
>by the way, I am a "listener" ( not a fan ) of his music. His tunes are
>very addictive and after one or two times you can sing along Agree?

  Does Lei Ming have his music? I bet this guy doesn't know about
harmony, forms, or any instrument. I don't think he knows music. If I
given him a scroll, I don't think he can sing correctly. In fact, I
doublful if he can read scroll.

  steve
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER!!!!
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:06:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.193345.16717@en.ecn.purdue.edu> kwan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Yik-Yin Edwin Kwan) writes:
>Why don't we establish a network version of Three Lonely Hearts Club?
>
>Edwin
>
	Agree. So, any voluteer? You're lucky, guys, coz I wouldn't
	mind putting my hands on... Anyone huh? 

---Cheers,
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From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:40:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Chinese wives are good? (Was Re: Stand up girls! Re: Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

He. If love is one way that you love one, who does not necessary love you. How
about that? Find her loved boyfriend / his loved girlfriend, pay him to date
your loved one and asked him / her to phone you how well he / she treates your
loved one. 
Yes, you may feel that love is one way if you are having it. When you lost it,
tell me.

And I belived love and marriage not necessary the same thing. There are a 
lot of case that one cannot marry his loved one but another one he does not
love very much. Or they married in love and separated a few years later
after the fire of love burnt out. I think marriage is a contract for a
STABLE environment of both partners and their second generations. You need
someone give you warm feeling and care for your children, not a sex symbol
or strong man (man nam) (But if you indeel have one, how luky you are).  

If you want excitement only. Why bother live together, to discover his / her
bad side? (like having underclothes left all over the house, forgot to put
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca (SHING-YAN EDDIE SY LING)
Subject: Re: HKer like young people only?
Originator: cs911364@t06.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:45:10 GMT


In article <6130117@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>> Change of subject. Has you noticed that? Most of the stars in Hong Kong are
>> very young (or young looking or pretend to be young). While there are much
>> more middle age actor (or actress) in western world (I mean USA or UK). I
>> can't remember any flim or tv series acted by middle age mainly. Is Hong
>> Kong people like young man (woman) only? I know that a lot of actors are
>> not young at all (in their 30 even 40). But the figure they acted in the
>> flim or tv are in their 20s or even teenager.
>> 
>> Also, it is so bad to see a lot of those Miss ??? on TV. Most of them can't
>> act. Would it better to put some vise there?
>> 
>> Commant?
>> 
>> Yuk
>> 


Umm.... so u don't really enjoy young people.....?  Well think about Japan.  Most of the singer(especially girl) are under age of 17.  So how do u comment on that? Anyway... I do agree that some of them really don't know how to sing or act in the movie.  Well........
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Ok ok ok new topics!
Date: 3 Oct 1992 08:09:02 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

Talk about wierd combinations, I'm thinking Molecular Cell Biology (aka
MCB) and Cognitive Science.  CogSci is a combination of philosophy, psych,
linguistics, computer science, and more more more!   And, was looking at a
minor in Music.  |)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cheung@mathcs.emory.edu (Shun Yan Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Chinese husbands....
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:42:09 GMT
Reply-To: cheung@mathcs.emory.edu
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

In article 91179@netnews.upenn.edu, gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho) writes:
'You know, it's kind of funny of what girls think about
'chinese guys for husbands.  Being a girl, i don't think
'that i would want a husband of any other race.  In fact,
'my roommate who is korean wants a chinese husband b/c
'she says that the stereotype of a chinese husband is
'"submissive"...Do you guys agree?  I mean, the wife
'usually controls the money and usually has the power
'in the family. 

Nah, I won't let my wife wear the pants in my family.
Not that anyone dominates in the family, we both put
our inputs together, but it is the husband that makes the
final decision and bears the responsibility. Why ?  Because
we are both Christians....

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai)
Subject: Re: Chinese wife is good? (Was: Why? Why? Now I'm going to tell you why.)
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:31:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.213222.15285@athena.mit.edu> siu@athena.mit.edu (Olivia I Siu) writes:
>In article <9226610.7864@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>,  kingchun@buengf.bu.edu (Tsai King Chun)
>write:
>
>>Yes, that's very true. However, you have to consider the consequences of
>>chasing a girl with boyfriend. You may be criticized by the community, as 
>>immoral because you mess up other's relationship and hurt someone. The  
>>situation would be much worse if you failed at last. Also, how about if 
>>you also know her boyfriend? What the rest of your friends would think
>>about you? They may regard you as an unloyal friend and will never dare 
>>to let you know their girlfriends. You maybe isolated! Remember the
>>character Ling Fung in the soap "Giant"( the one was on during the last
>>summer in HK)? Everyone hated him. 
>
>Correct me if I am wrong.  I think what kingchun said is right.  However, this
>is one of the stereotypes that should be corrected.  I think if a girl goes
>out with another guy even though she has a boyfriend, it's either that
>she doesn't really want to be with her boyfriend, or that they were not
>meant to be together in the first place.  So, I think guys can still ask
>girls with boyfriends to go out.  How the girl reply is another matter.
>
>Olivia

Oh thank you, Olivia!  I've been making this argument for ages, that it is
up to HER to decide, right?  Why does all the guys has to insist that
"Us Boys" made a secret pact to divide and conquer all these women, and rid
them of the choice to decide for themselves?  It's kinda like
oligapoly, really.  If this is put to practice in the business world,
the Justice Dept would put the Anti-trust law to their face in a jiffy.
(Not saying that emotions/relationships are like business, but you
catch my drift.)

I say ask her out, at your own risk (of offending your friends, etc.), and
respect her opinion when she tells you to buzz off.

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