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From: Andrew.Brooks@launchpad.unc.edu (Andrew Brooks)
Subject: Re: Presidents in comics
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:11:36 GMT

In article <1ievitINNdi0@alice.cs.purdue.edu> berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger) writes:
>In article <1ietupINNin9@titan.ucc.umass.edu> donovan@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Sean Donovan) writes:
>>At least 1 other Presidential cameo I can think of:  Ron Reagan and Mikhail
>>Gorbachev in Batman: Son of the Demon.  Oh, wait:  Ron Reagan again in 
>>Dark Knight Returns III & IV.  Any others?
>
>Richard Nixon was in a timely issue of Superman.

Don't forget Tricky Dick's appearance in 'Watchmen', when they are 
calculating the feasibility of a nuclear first strike.

Zoz
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From: pduggan@world.std.com (Paul C Duggan)
Subject: Matt Wagner Stuff.
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:17:39 GMT

I was wondering if anyone had any info on the Aerialist, a Matt
Wagner story that was appearing in Dark Horse Presents. Have there
been any recent chapters? I haven't seen any in quite some time.

And what happened to Mage II?

thanks
paul duggan
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Cerebus: the Starters?
Organization: The Parody Squids of the Poor
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:41:04 GMT

In <1993Jan5.160949.2693@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

>From a previous posting, and in order of age:

>	Shit Happens

Isn't the "Happens" parenthetic?

>	Snuff
>	Swoon
>	Smash
>	Slobber, and her twin sister Sulk
>	Spaz  (originally named Spiffy)

Is there an official name for this family yet? (I won't see Cerebus #165 
until Thursday.) A friend suggested that they be referred to as The Witless.

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From: jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Best Death
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:55:00 GMT

	I think Cypher's death was well done... he saved the life of the girl
he loved, but she didn't even notice he was mortally wounded. Angst-generating,
yes, but still pretty good.
	But IMHO, the best death was that of the Uncanny X-Men during the Fall
of the Mutants. It was pretty obvious they were coming back (none of this
Superman hiatus crap), and they died saving a world who hated them, with that
same world watching it happen live on TV. Not only that, but the "bad guy"
didn't go and fight the X-Men up close and personal; he manipulated everyone,
playing both sides against each other, and using pawns to fight his battles.
When the team finally met him, they consciously chose to die for thier cause,
rather than let the Adversary win. And the "aftermath" issue wasn't half
bad either.

	Joe Delisle

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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Mercy (was: Re: Vertigo Preview)
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:17:04 GMT

rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly) writes:

>>Mercy:  A graphic novel about "...a spiritual entity called Mercy, 
>>and...her impact on three very different lives".  Splash pages don't
>>make good preview material; I haven't a clue what to make of this, either.
>
>I don't think these were splash pages... I think that is the entire 
>way the book is going to be done... bold, I must admit, but we'll see.
>Good art.  What else has JM DeMatteis done?  I can't remember.

	He's done Justice League Something (the one with Guy Gardner)
with Giffen, and is currently doing Spectacular Spider-Man, the BEST
Spidey title.  Even if you hate ol' Spidey, check this out!  If you
can't tell, I like it!
	Does anyone have any more info to offer on this Mercy book than
the preview tells us?  Please share it with us.
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From: dstephan@sybase.com (Dean Stephan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:Lucien's Library
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:48:54 GMT
Reply-To: dstephan@sybase.com
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <naam.725870978@terra.cecer.army.mil>, naam@cecer.army.mil (Ramez Naam) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <1992Dec31.042645.7577@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
|> >>In article <1992Dec31.001958.2356@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
|> >>> OK, since two different folks [in rec.arts.comics.misc] have asked about
|> >>> Fermat's Last Theorem, it's time to tell this told-to-me-as-true story:
|> >>
|> >>But you didn't explain what the theorem was:
|> >>	Fermat was an 18th Century French mathematician who had the
|> >>	tendency to write annotations at the margins of the books he
|> >>	read.  Well, in one of his annotations, Fermat claimed that he
|> >>	had discovered a "remarkable proof" that there do not exist
|> >>	three numbers x, y, and z such that x^3 + y^3 = z^3.
|> >>	The problem is, he never wrote down what the blasted
|> >>	"remarkable proof" was, and mathematicians are still trying
|> >>	to solve that 200-year-old conundrum.  (There is a theory
|> >>	which says that Fermat *didnt* discover a proof, he just
|> >>	though he had.  Then again, no one has been able to come with
|> >>	three numbers that fit the bill, so the problem is still open.)
|> 
|> It's a bit stronger than that.   Fermat claimed that he had proven that
|> no three number x,y,z fit x^N + y^N = z^N where N is an integer larger
|> than 1.

ah, actually, N>2.  x^2 + y^2 = z^2 is Pythagrias'(sp!) theorem.  This deals with
the relation of the lengths of the sides of a right triangle.  For example,

3^2 + 4^2 = 9 + 16 = 25 = 5^2.

I believe it has been shown for certain values of N that this conjecture is
true, but no-one has proved the general case.

Dean.
dstephan@sybase.com
From: 128.155.44.15 (Larry Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Next Men Russian
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:42:34 GMT
Organization: NASA LaRC Graphics
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From article <1993Jan8.105736.21408@sol.UVic.CA>, by jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA 
(Scowling Jim Cowling):
> Yeah, he does.  He used Fontographer to create his own font based on his 
>own hand-lettering (perfect letters every time!)...

	I spoke with Mr. Byrne at the Atlanta DragonCon and asked him how he produces his 
lettering. He said he uses Fontastic which is a bit-map font editor. He "typesets" each balloon 
and prints them out to fit the oversized art (to be reduced to 60%). He prints onto a clear 
acetate with adhesive backing. He still hand-draws the actual balloon to retain the traditional 
look and feel.
	Mr. Byrne also fielded this question in the letters pages of NEXT MEN several issues ago.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Larry Merrill - Opinions provided are mine all mine. Nobody else should be blamed!
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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Re: Hulk: FUTURE IMPERFECT and PAD sneaking around
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:49:32 GMT

	I was thinking it would be a great tie-in between the Hulk
regular series and the Future Imperfect mini-series (which I haven't
read yet) if this future evil Hulk has something to do with the Red
Skull's threat to brainwash Banner at the end of issue 402.  The stuff
with Maestro could also be part of the ongoing developments in the
monthly series, with respect to Hulk's taking on of responsibility,
controlling the Green personality side of him, etc.  Of course, some of
you guys have read FI, and maybe I'm totally wrong in what I think
"should" happen, but in general doesn't everyone agree that most
one-shots and mini-series have nothing to do with the continuity of the
regular series?  At least I know there is somewhat of a connection (the
face in Delphi's pool), so that's good for a change.
	Just rambling ...
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Marvel Implosion Imminent? (was: Re: Marvel copies DC... again)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 14:42:47 EST

In article <1ib7toINNbco@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
lazarus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu writes:
 
>
>intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder) writes:
>
>>Anyway, a lot of doom-saying going on here, but it's all just theory.  I
>>really would like to hear if anyone is willing to say Marvel is not
>>setting themselves up for a fall this time.
>
>Actually, considering the amount of money Marvel is getting from
>their existing titles, and considering that their titles are getting
>the largest percentage of sales (something over 50%, but exact figures
>I don't have sitting at my elbow currently), I think they can afford
>to take such gambles as introducing new lines, and apparently they
>do also.  Regardless of their motives.
>
 
      Since I haven't looked at their balance sheet or profit and loss
statement (and even if I did, I doubt I'd be that much of an analyst;
I'm an economist [though the way my dissertation is going, that's questionable]
not an accountant, but...
     The field of comics and SF are filled with small start-up companies
which did amazingly well (First; Comico for comix; Bluejay and Pulphouse
for SF), decided to expand based on their success, loaded themselves up
with projects and/or debt, and fell flat on its face.  (Pulphouse is
still alive, I understand, but vastly restructured its plans and output).
      There's always a chance that the new Marvels will catch on; and since
Marvel is the largest outfit, they might have the deep pockets to survive
its excesses, but...
     The way I understand it, when what's-his-name bought out Marvel to
start it as a publicly held company, it was done as a highly leveraged
buy out, which means Marvel may be loaded up with debt; furthermore,
it no longer has outside corporate deep pockets to weather it through
hard times.  If this is true, then if the new titles don't do well and
if their existing title sales fall drastically, Marvel may be in big trouble.
    Since Marvel has 50% of the market, it may be silly to worry, but I
wonder if Marvel has the resources to survive if it meets a truly bad
downturn.  Even though I rarely buy their titles anymore, I guess I would
rather have a really bad FF or Spiderman out there than no FF or Spiderman
at all.  [Yes, other companies may buy out the rights to FF etc if Marvel
folds, but I wonder if it will necessarily be better; and I wonder how much
of Marvel classic characters will make the cut...]
 
       Junsok Yang
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Next Weeks Comics
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:35:37 GMT
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lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>with, but to avoid missing the New Comics Day Feeding Frenzy, you might 
>want to check to see if the shop will be getting its shipment earlier. 

Yes!  It worked for me this week!  Nobody knew except me that
everything was coming in a day early, so I got there early and got to
browse at my leisure in an almost empty store.

Of course, they had to go and RUIN everything by putting up a sign
about it, so everybody will know next week.  How selfish of them.
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From: horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SUPERMAN: No new life in sight.
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:42:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan4.164218.15744
Organization: Twisted Genius Rehabilitation Center, a Division of MHE

In article <1i9c30INN43c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
]In a previous article, mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) says:
] >I was in the comics shop on Friday and learned that all Superman
] >titles are being suspended until the summer.
] >...
]Actually, I just read over on GEnie that Adventures of Superman #500
]will ship in April, with the other books all coming out the following week...

Yep...it is indeed. Those people who read "Previews" might also have
  noticed. It's going to be on the order form of the February Previews
  (for titles shipping in April). 

	-Heiji
	 horde@reed.edu
From: don@tse.uucp (Don Marks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Dave Sim and the Comics Journal
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:18:30 GMT
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange

In article <1iii9bINNpac@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> kens@bodwin.ifs.umich.edu (Ken Small) writes:
>I just read the lastest Cerebus, and I finally saw the letter from
>Kim Thompson that was mentioned on the net here.  What's the big deal?
>The only "sneering arrogance" I saw was that Dave couldn't accept that
>someone out there doesn't like Sandman.
>
I was wondering the same thing.  Dave must have been reading something else
in there, thinking Thompson was implying the comic was bad because he
didn't like it.  Or that because Thompson didn't like the comic, it
wasn't worthy of being mentioned in the Journal.

>As far as the Journal itself, I was wondering: how many people around
>here read it?  It's the only comics publication I can stand, but the
>editorials, while  coming from a perspective I appreciate, seem far
>too removed from reality these days.  I wish the Journal and
>
The Journal is the only publication about comics that I read.  I dislike
its negative attitude, but appreciate it for the dedication it has to
exposing quality comix.  It is a myth that only Fanatagraphics comics
get good reviews in the journal; it has turned me on to such excellent
comix as Eddie Campbell's _Deadface_ and Chester Brown's _Yummy Fur_.

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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: The Truth about Neil (was: Re: Another Gaiman short story)
Organization: The Pre-Fab Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:12:33 GMT

In article <C0Inqs.Iy8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes:
>
>
>>I don't know if this has been said before, but one of his early (pre-comic?)
>>works was a guide to the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' (the Douglas Adams
>>books) which described their evolution from radio play to book to TV series.

I think the title of the Hitchhiker's thing is _Don't Panic_. You may still
be able to get it. I see it on sale from time to time.

>Didn't he also do _Duran Duran: The Fab Four_?
>
>If he did, I would understand why he wouldn't admit it....
>I know I heard it someplace tho.....

Oh, he'll admit it if you ask him, he just doesn't go out of his 
way to publicize it.  

The article I want to see is some sort of twenty-four hours (or up all
night or something) in Soho story that he was supposed to do. Towards 
the end of the time period, nothing interesting (at least nothing worth
writing about) had happened so he was forced to accost people in hopes
that might do something that was noteworthy.

Another item we can add to Lucien's library is "Role Playing Games: Satan
Worshiping, Sex, and Six-Sided Dice" by Neil Gaiman. It was a request for 
this sort of article that reportedly drove Gaiman to give up his career in 
journalism. 

Disclaimer: I really can't recall where I read all this. It's probably 
mostly factual, but you're dealing with a very confused individual.

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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: DC: misc stuff
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:40:05 GMT

vcz40@jester.usask.ca (Vanessa C. Zondervan):
>I was wondering if it is simply a vocal group here that don't like ST, or
>if it is really the majority. I'm not flaming or raising doubts, I'm just
>genuinely curious.

How can one know?  After all, the silent majority is, by definition,
silent.  It's certainly not the case that there's an anti-Collins clique
that bemoans whatever she does:  There's been virtually no mention of
Swamp Thing on this group for a while, except for the recent spate
which was inspired largely by the Vertigo preview.  Some of the readers
who dislike the current ST felt strongly enough about it to say so,
and those who like it didn't.

I suspect that many of the ST readers in this group are still reading it
because they remember what it was and could be, rather than because of
its current merits.

-----
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From: dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Why Vertigo?
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:03:59 GMT
	<1993Jan6.145905.13727@schbbs.mot.com>
	<1993Jan7.034143.4321@njitgw.njit.edu>
	<1993Jan7.172404.18430@schbbs.mot.com>
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization

Unless Vertigo is offering creator-ownership  (which I doubt,
considering Swamp Thing is one of the titles, and that's been a real
cash cow for DC lately everywhere but in comics) then it can only
provide the illusion of change.  Marvel's Epic line (Elektra and the
Havok/Wolverine crossover notwithstanding) still represent a more
progressive outlook as far as creator-ownership. 

- Dan
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From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Barb Ketch as Ghost Rider (was Re: What if...)
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 05:34:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan06.163311.11979@microsoft.com> markp@microsoft.com (Mark Pennington) writes:
>Speaking of What if...
>In a recent issue, the cover boasted a picture of Ghost Rider with
>breasts and was titled, What If (the current Ghost Rider's sister
>whatever the heck her name is) Had become Ghost Rider.
> 
>Ghost Rider with breasts.
>
>Now it's been a while since my college anatomy classes, but I don't seem 
>to remember there being any bones in them there naughty bits.
>Personal experience would tend to bear me out.
>So why does this Ghost Rider have boobs?

My guess is it would be the same reason that Ghost Rider looks so buff all
the time; the hellfire that surrounds his body gives shape to it (we can
see the skull through the flames). So she has "breasts of fire"!

Jay (=

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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Distant Mirrors (repeat post...sorry)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:12:24 GMT

firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:

>I think I heard that Distant Mirrors and Convergence will be in a TPB together
>called Accounts and Reflections.  This book will also include a comic called
>Ramadan which was intended to go with the Distant Mirrors group, but had
>technical problems and never got published.

New title:  Fables and Reflections.
Neil liked the other one better, but was out-voted.


LJC
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From: mjo@iao.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Ways to bring Superman back
Date: 12 Jan 1993 02:05:58 GMT
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In article <wfIScIi00WBN452KBL@andrew.cmu.edu> Harith Jameel Alkhafiz
<ha09+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

:My manager at Electronics Boutique suggested this, and I don't know if
:it's been addressed before.  Superman's solar-powered, right?  Well,
:they could just launch a transparent spacecraft containing Superman's
:body into a low solar orbit.  All that solar energy at that close range
:might just kick Superman's body into a regenerative state, healing him. 
:Of course, the spaceship should include enough oxygen for Superman's
:flight back to Earth.  Makes sense, doesn't it?

Superman is to Sun as Spock is to Genesis Planet?

Lovely.

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