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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:27:16 GMT

wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu (Kevin J. Wingfield) writes:

>                But Harrington is in his first yr
>                the three you listed were not an
>                impact in their first yr's
>                so how do you figure this guy will.
>                Ewing had the most impact of the
>                three as a freshman...so don't expect

	Those 3 didn't have an impact?  Hold on a second here.
	Ewing in his freshman year was VERY imposing.  All U have to
	do is look at tapes of the 1982 NCAA championship game to see
	how he was blocking shots left and right and totally intimidating
	the Tar Heels.  I believe he made honorable mention All-America
	that season.

	Mourning was pretty much the same story.  In his freshman year,
	he ended up leading the nation in blocked shots at over 5 per
	game!  Is that not an impact?  He also was Georgetown's entire
	inside game that year, and averaged about 13 ppg.  Not bad for
	a first season, huh?

	Mutombo is one, though, that didn't make too much of an impact
	his freshman year -- mostly because he was still very raw at
	the time, and didn't get much PT.

	But of these 4 players, Harrington comes in as a fairly refined
	player, and should fit in right away in G-town's system.  Look
	for him to definitely make an impact, especially on the boards.

	Jazzy J
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From: gillon@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: G'town basketball
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:55:25 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

I remember reading an old version of the Georgetown basketball and a 
couple of games that I know of now weren't on there. Two very 
important ones too.
Nov. 19 The French National Team
& I've forgotten the other one. Not that it matters. Any game that 
takes place on the actual campus is not usually important.
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From: rajain@sml11.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: UMass or UMASS!
Organization: Project Pilgrim, Umass
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:38:22 GMT

In article <16827@umd5.umd.edu>, dd76@umail.umd.edu (Deborah D) writes:
|> Well then, how do you pronounce Amherst?

	good question !!!! Hmmmm! lemme see......."AMHERST !!!" ?

|>
From: rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Big Games This Year (Was Re: All-time teams)
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:16 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Nov5.192235.25575@rtsg.mot.com> thmpsnmc@tomcat7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson) writes:
>In article <720914174@stego.cs.duke.edu>, rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
<|< 
<|< 31 days to Duke-Michigan.
<|<
<
<Do you feel it is safe to say ~52 days to Michigan-Kansas in the holiday tournament.  I know Michigan
<will have to get by UNC but I do not know the opponent of the JayHawks.  It had originally been scheduled
<as Georgia Tech but they suddenly noticed that the locker rooms needed cleaning and that Hawaii was 
<actually not that nice in December.  Anyway I feel this is going to be the best untelevised game of the year.


Aha.  Our first test this season of the woofing theorem.  Let's keep our
eyes to see if the Woofing Theorem will hold during a Clinton administration.
(or at least as it nears its beginning)
-- 
Ronnie Smith      East Carolina University      Greenville, NC
   (and still at Duke a little bit)
 INTERNET: rws@cs.duke.edu
The next Duke Invitational,  April 3 - 5, 1993 in New Orleans.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:29:14 GMT

trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>Harrington and Spencer are both studs; however, G-Town also had Mutombo and
>Mourning playing together for a couple of years, and Georgetown didn't do 
>diddley.  The reason: lack of a perimeter game.  Churchwell, Brown and Church
>just haven't cut it so far, and this more than anything prevented Mourning from
>having the sort of success he was supposed to have.  Since guys like Charles
>Smith, Reggie Williams and Bill Martin left, the Hoyas have had problems.
>So the net result is that the Hoyas will beat up on much of the big east, and
>then take a quick exit in the NCAA's.

	Georgetown has had some relative success over the years, even after
	the bad boyz days of Ewing, Martin, Graham, etc.  For instance, in
	1987, "Reggie and the Miracles" made it to the Final 8, and were ranked
	in the Top 4 before losing out to Cinderella Providence.  That team
	sure did a heck of a lot considering they really didn't have a cent
	center (unless, of course, U wish to count Jonathan Edwards or Ben
	Gillery).  And, again in 89, Mourning's freshman year, the Hoys
	were a fearsome team, being the #1 seed in the East that year, and
	again made it to the Final 8 before losing out to Duke at the
	Meadowlands.  In the past 2-3 years the Hoyas haven't been all that
	great, but they did have a nice season in '88-'89.

	Jazzy J
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From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:30:43
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
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In-reply-to: pafford@metis.rtp.dg.com's message of 12 Nov 92 23:36:10 GMT

>>>>> "Randy" == Randy Pafford <pafford@dg-rtp.dg.com> writes:
	[My stuff deleted]
  Randy> As I recall, Ewing WAS an impact player in his freshman year, but 
  Randy> the example given -- "Throwing James  Worthy's shit into the 3rd row 
  Randy> during the NCAA finals sounds like a pretty big impact to me" is debatable. 

  Randy> Ewing had at least three, and it might have been four, GOALTENDING calls 
  Randy> in the early minutes of the game.   Some of highlight clips from that
  Randy> game don't mention that they were goaltends . . . 

I'm fully aware that they were goaltends, "Throwing someone's shit..." is
playground talk. Hyperbole for the sake of hyperbole.

Also, how come you didn't mention the "NCAA Finals" part of the deal. That
was my major point. Here's a freshman blocking/goaltending/altering
numerous Tar Heel shots in the NCAA Finals. If you want to debate that as
not being a big impact, be my guest.

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From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: Re: More Rashard Griffith news!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:57:43 GMT

paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:

>In article <1992Nov4.174419.10951@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>>
>>Rashard Griffith has limited his choices of schools to two, Wisconsin and
>>Purdue.  He apparantly has canceled his Oklahoma visit, and decided that he
>>didn't want to go to Michigan.
>>Feeling:  Rashard will chose Purdue.  He will decide that Wisconsin's
>>proposed run-and-gun offense will not suit his game as well as Purdue's
>>half-court offense. (of course, I may be wrong...)
>   
>   Actually, I got the impression that Wisconsin would be his choice. His
>   mother talked about how she was glad he cancelled the Oklahoma visit
>   because "the coaches at Wisconsin were so nice" (or something to that
>   effect). Rashard also wants to go to a rebuilding program where he
>   could step in and play right away. He wants to help turn a program
>   around. Wisconsin definitely has the edge on Purdue in having a much
>   shittier program over the years. I guess Stu Jackson also had another
>   top 50 recruit in last weekend (though I can't remember his name). Either
>   way, it looks as though Jackson, like Alvarez, is ready to change the UW
>   program from the ground up, selling some top recruits on Madison.

>   --salty



How about adding the Illini to the mix?  Although the coaching staff at
Illinois appears to have given up on him, others have not.

Juicy rumors #1 and #2.  Both the Peoria and Springfield newspapers 
report the Rashard may visit Illinois this weekend.  I suppose he just
likes  that Rashard may visit the Illinois campust this weekend.  I guess  
he that he

Westinghouse coach Ray Condotti reports that his Kiwane Garris (just 
committed to the Illini) is pulling the 'Big Gee' southward.  Garris was
here last weekend for midnight madness.  Condotti told the scribes something
like ' just wait until Kewane gets involved'.   

I don't know if he will actually come, it may be just an attempt by 
Illinois allies to get a foot in the door.  But maybe, just maybe
the Badgers and Boilers shouldn't count their chickens for a while...

Have a nice day!!!


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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Back for more - Stanford is No. 1
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:21:10 GMT

In article <aelman.721358412@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU  
(Adam Elman) writes:
> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
> 
> >Aaaaaaahhhhhhh!!  It's another one of those women's basketball posts
> >that don't say so in the header!!  Aaaaarrrrrggghhhh!!!
> 
> >I knew it all along, of course....
> 
> >- Rob Mac K
> 
> The comment "Stanford is No. 1" should have tipped you off. :-)

Hey, it was only two years ago that the Stanford men won the
National Championship...

> Besides -- women's hoops are good for you.  :-)

They are.  The level of play is very high in many of the 
major conferences including

******MEGAPOSTING ON*********

the ACC,

******MEGAPOSTING OFF*********

SEC, PAC and BIG 10's.

Get out and watch a women's game if you haven't for a while.
And if I see Rob Mac K at a Duke Women's game, I'll buy him
a popcorn...

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: FAB FIVE is back in Ann Arbor
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:57:06 GMT

In article <Bxo0B8.59E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )  
writes:

>	Chris is a hard-working student,
> 	so I would doubt he's anywhere close to being on academic probation.

Plus, after hearing about some of the classes tailored for athletic
students there (Webber probably excepted, since he is bright), I'd
think such probation would be impossible at Michigan.

Doc?

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From: derek@comlab.gatech.edu (Derek Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: A Look Ahead at the ACC: UNC
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:10:06 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <Bx94B1.8Hu@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>
>>In article <Bx7DHI.LoA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>>>TRIVIA QUESTION: Name the four UNC players who went pro early.
>>>	Here's my shot:  Michael Jordan, James Worthy, JR Reid, and Bob McAdoo.
>
>>Right on target.  Now I'll REALLY be impressed if you can name all of the other
>>ACC players who left school early to go pro.  Hint: there are 13 more, 5 of
>>whom are the Maryland players that I mentioned in an earlier post.
>
>	OK... let's see... I can think of a few:
>	(mostly fairly recent)
>
>	Wake Forest:  Kenny Green
>	NC State: Chris Washburn, Charles Shackleford

Add Kenny Anderson and Dennis Scott from Goergia Tech.
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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: All-time teams
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:20:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <Bx992H.DBu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>>jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>|
>>|	Here's a good question to ponder -- who would U put as the starting
>>|	five on an all-time Duke team?  In my opinion, I'd definitely have
>>|	Christian Laettner, Johnny Dawkins, and Danny Ferry.  Perhaps I'd
>>|	also throw in Jeff Mullins -- but I don't know too much about the
>>|	players before the mid-70's or so.  Any comments?
>>|
>>|	Jazzy J
>
>First team
>PG - Bobby Hurley
>SG - Johnny Dawkins
>SF - Art Heyman?? (was this his position?)
>PF - Danny Ferry
>C  - Christian Laettner
>
>Second Team
>PG - Tommy Amaker
>SG - Jeff Mullins
>SF - Grant Hill
>PF - Gene Banks
>C  - Mike Gminski
>
>Third Team
>PG - Dick Groat??
>SG - Vince Taylor
>SF - Jim Spanarkel
>PF - Jay Bilas
>C  - Mark Alarie
>
>So how close am I?

	Well, Bilas was the center, and Alarie the forward, but other than 
that, you've got a pretty respectable line-up.  I'd probably put Marin in 
instead of Bilas, and drop Vince Taylor for almost anyone.  Vince Taylor
was the star on the worst Duke team in the last 15 years, so I don't think
he'd be in the top 15 all time.

	Who would you get to coach, Bubas or K?


>- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
>- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ----- *David J.'s debut 12" single          *
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Tufts University              			The Conversation
From: rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 21:27:09 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Intergration, University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Nov10.212833.28931@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:
|>   Robert J. Skrobola names as his candidate for worst ref:
|> 
|> >Ed T. Rush. Ugh.
|> 
|>      I rarely agree with Michigan people, but this is such an eloquent 
|> statement of my own position that I have to second it.
|> 
|>                                         Steve
As I rarely posit anything which *an* buckeye might second, I take this
opportunity to express my thanks for this particular eye's support.
			Rob


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From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Big10 Preseason
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:11:07 GMT


In article <1992Nov10.200603.2178@cbnews.cb.att.com>, ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!ames!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!ddn
|> From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
|> Subject: Big10 Preseason
|> Organization: AT&T
|> Distribution: usa
|> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:06:03 GMT
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov10.200603.2178@cbnews.cb.att.com>
|> Lines: 52
|> 
|> For those who are anxious for Big10 woofing data, the preseason
|> is about to start.  This year, the Big-10 will whip up on
|> an Attorney, the Christians, a Gas Station, a host of National teams,
|> and others that I can't even identify.  Schedule info reprinted
|> from the NCAA Preview Guide - Big 10 Issue.
|> 
|> It might be interesting for folks to post the scores of these games.
|> 
|> david
|> 
|> Russian National Team
|> =====================
|> 11/16 - Illinois
|> 11/17 - Wisconsin
|> 11/18 - Michigan State
|> 11/19 - Michigan
|> 11/22 - Purdue
|> 11/24 - Ohio State
|> 11/25 - Penn State
|> 
|> Athletes in Action
|> ==================
|> 11/20 - Michigan State
|> 11/21 - Ninnesota
|> 
|> Marathon Oil
|> ============
|> 11/16 - Iowa
|> 11/21 - Northwestern
|> 11/22 - Iowa *and* Wisconsin (quite a feat, eh?)
  
   1/2/93 - Illinois (?) Why are they playing an exhibition this late
            in the season?!

|> The Layfayette Hustlers (whoever the hell they are)
|> =======================
|> 11/16 - Purdue
|> 11/17 - Ohio State
|> 
|> Cuban National Team
|> ===================
|> 11/18 - Iowa
|> 11/30 - Indiana
|> 
|> Ragnon Attorney AAU
|> ===================
|> 11/23 - Michigan
|> 
|> Finland National Team
|> =====================
|> 11/18 - Northwestern
|> 
|> Ukraine National Team
|> =====================
|> 11/25 - Minnesota
|>
From: thmpsnmc@tomcat7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: All-time teams
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:22:35 GMT
Reply-To: thmpsnmc@tomcat7.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group

In article <720914174@stego.cs.duke.edu>, rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov4.213110.6428@rti.rti.org> wgr@rti.rti.org writes:
|> <
|> <As far as the old-timers go, the only guys I can even think of are Mullins,
|> <Art Heyman (sp?) and Bob Verga.  I'm pretty sure Mullins was the best of
|> <these three.  The only really good Duke player I can think of offhand in
|> <the era between these guys and the 1978 team is Tate Armstrong, who was on
|> <the 1976 Olympic team.  I guess Randy Denton was OK, but not on a level
|> <with these other guys.  Vince Taylor was also pretty good.
|> 
|> Jack Marin was also a Blue Devil.
|> 
|> 31 days to Duke-Michigan.
|>

Do you feel it is safe to say ~52 days to Michigan-Kansas in the holiday tournament.  I know Michigan
will have to get by UNC but I do not know the opponent of the JayHawks.  It had originally been scheduled
as Georgia Tech but they suddenly noticed that the locker rooms needed cleaning and that Hawaii was 
actually not that nice in December.  Anyway I feel this is going to be the best untelevised game of the year.

			Craig Thompson
 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Ronnie Smith      East Carolina University      Greenville, NC
|>    (and still at Duke a little bit)
|>  INTERNET: rws@cs.duke.edu
|> The next Duke Invitational,  April 3 - 5, 1993 in New Orleans.
From: riedemjd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John D Riedeman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Ted Kitchell (Also All-time Indiana Teams)
Date: 11 Nov 1992 03:48:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: riedemjd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John D Riedeman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: l130c1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Nov5.093536.8431@iscsvax.uni.edu>  writes:
> Someone asked...
> 
> > what ever happened to Ted Kitchell?
> 
	Monday night I was watching the annual Cream vs Crimson scrimmage  
at Bloomington and Kitchell did a halftime interview.  This station (WTTV  
4 out of Indianapolis) broadcasts any Indiana games not on a major  
network.  I would guess he'll be doing this all year again this year.  I'm  
pretty sure he was on a post- or pre-game show last year on WTTV, whenever  
they had an Indiana game. 

	Since everyone else is picking all-time teams of schools, I'll  
pick my all-time team for Indiana.  All I need to say is 1976.




John Riedeman email riedemjd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

	
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From: emdynle@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Em Dyn chi co' em trong tim anh)
Subject: U of MD basketball
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:13:27 GMT

All you basketball fans out there, just wait two or three more years.    
Maryland is talking about sweet 16.  Oh how sweet it will be too.  One of  
the top recruiting classes of 92 and we are looking recently at another  
high school star from dunbar who looks to soon be commiting to Maryland  
also.
Watch out cause we're back
Go Terps Go
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Back for more - Stanford is No. 1
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:33:30 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


Aaaaaaahhhhhhh!!  It's another one of those women's basketball posts
that don't say so in the header!!  Aaaaarrrrrggghhhh!!!

I knew it all along, of course....

- Rob Mac K
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Another All-Time team
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:55:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

The only way these lists are ever fun is to extract them from fan
loyalties, like the late, great Louis Jordan did when he tried
to come up with 5 guys named Moe. So, spice up the criterion
and you'll have something. Otherwise, the lists just become lists
of the 5 guys I remember in my 6 years of following my current team.
Like, the 5 best players ever suspected of point shaving...something
like that.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>