HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Adaptec AHA-1542B and large SCSI questions
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 17:47:22 GMT

I tried to use the Adaptec BBS and couldn't get through, so maybe the
net can help....

I got an Adaptec AHA-1542B controller and want to use it with OS/2 2.0
and a large SCSI disk. 

My question is this: I have heard that SCSI disks larger than 1 Gb may
not work properly without BIOS upgrades or special drivers. Is this true for
OS/2? 

If necessary I can use an MFM drive and controller to boot, and use the
large SCSI only for storage.

Are there any other considerations that I need to keep in mind or any
tricks/gotchas?

Thanks (especially for quick replies -- my MFM drives are full!)



orville

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: postma@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Warren A. Postma)
Subject:  Program exist to create font sheets?
Reply-To: postma@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Warren A. Postma)
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:51:16 GMT
Keywords: Fonts PM Program Wanted FTP 

Simple question:

Does anOS/2 (preferable) or WINDOZE program exist to take all the scaleable fonts in my C:\OS2\DLL
directory (.AFM, .PFM, etc) and create a font sample sheet at a given size (say 18 or 24 pt) showing what they
look like.

I tried to create one, after installing about 80 or 90 shareware fonts.  EPM (Enhanced Editor) died with a
Sys 3157 error in ATMPM.DLL,  and Describe (beta/demo DESC32PV.EXE available on many ftp sites)died 
after I tried to use more than a dozen fonts in a document.

All work fine when you only have a few fonts, and Describe coped with up to 30 fonts, until I tried to print
at which point it crashed royally.

DeScribe's demo gave me a lot of respect for the product, buggy as the DESC32PV.EXE package is, I am seriously
tempted to defect from WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS to the new Describe version that just came out. (4.0 is it?)
Apparently they gave almost everyone their wish-list. That's something I like to see from a company.

Meanwhile, how does one make a font sheet?

Warren

P.S.  Let me pass on some recommendations - THERE ARE SOME GREAT SHAREWARE ADOBE FONTS
OUT THERE. CHECK THEM OUT BEFORE YOU BUY ANY FONT PACKS! THEY MAY BE ALL YOU
NEED.
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM won't accept Internet problem reports any more
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:03:49 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Keywords: IBM problem report compuserve cis

hmkirchh@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff) writes:

>Since CIS charges the RECIPIENT of a message from the internet (IBM in this
>case), I am not very astonished. It is several cent you have to pay for
>the message, depending on the size. I don't know how many messages they
>received from I-Net, but I would imagine, it must have been quite some
>$$ worth.

I can't help but think there is more to this than CIS charges.  After,
all, IBM has nodes on the internet (software.watson.ibm.com to name
just one) so they could easily set up an internet email address for
tech support if they wanted to.

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Printer Problem... Help Me!!!
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:37:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.223403.518@hawk.cs.ukans.edu> ydlee@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Yong Duk Lee) writes:
>I just decided to post the printer problem in detail.
>I have Dell Dimension 486-33 system with 8 meg ram. I recently connected
>Epson LQ-570 printer to LPT1, and set up the driver for the printer. But
>if I try to print something, OS/2 says it can't write on LPT1. If I choose
>IBMNULL driver, it prints the first character, and says the printer is 
>turned off while it is not. If I select retry button, it again prints
>the next character, the says the printer is turned off. If I boot from
>drive A using dos diskette, not OS/2, the printer works fine.
>I checked IRQs and there is no conflict. I did everything I can think of,
>and nothing's working. Since the printer resets when I boot the computer,
>I think the cable is ok. Can anybody please help me? I have to use my
>printer. I even called IBM tech line, but to no avail.
>Any help will be greatly appreciated. Please, HELP ME...

It may be the cable.  Swap with a friend and see if that helps.

It may be the printer adapter.  If at all possible, try swapping that
with a friend's to see if the problem clears up.

In both cases, see if you can swap with a component that is of a
different brand.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:54:02 EST
From: <MTC107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Orchid has new S3 Beta drivers

Tom Hatton writes:
>Those with Orchid's Fahrenheit 1280 might want to get new versions
>of the OS2 2.0 drivers from the Orchid BBS (510)-683-0555 (v.32)
>from the BETA directory of the Files area.

I have downloaded the drivers, and will upload them to Hobbes.

>The files are dated Dec 14, so they may be 32-bit, but someone
>else (who has an F1280) should check this out and verify -
>I have an ET4000, so I'm not about to download these files :-)

There is now an 800x600 256 color driver as well as the 1024x768.   I have
only tried the 1024x768.  For those like myself with the 1280-D (local bus)
these drivers actually work.  The older beta did not work well with the 1280-D.
The README states that the drivers are only 16bit but have been tested with the
CSD and work fine.

Mark Cordrey
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 LOGO bitmap as WINOS/2 wallpaper
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:11:15 GMT

In article <mna1.724493016@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> mna1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Muhammad N. Arif) writes:
>I copied the file os2logo.bmp to the winos2 subdirectory and selected that bitmap file as the wallper.  However, all I got was some random color pixels as winos2 background.
>Is there any way to fix this?  I would like to have the os/2 logo as the background of my winos2.  Is there any utility to convert os/2 bitmaps to windoze 3.1 bitmaps?

Try Galleria (registered version), ShowBMP, or a Windows program that
can read OS/2 bitmap format (like Paintshop Pro).  Check
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu via anonymous ftp, or, for Windows software,
ftp.cica.indiana.edu.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Subject: Some questions
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:12:55 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

I read the FAQ, and it peaked my curiosity.  I'd love to run OS/2 on my
machine, but I've got concerns about performance.  Specifically:

My machine is a 386sx/16 with 6 megs of RAM, a ST251-1 and a ST225 HD,
1-1 Interleave MFM controller, ATI VGAWonderXL

So, what kind of performance/lack thereof can I expect?  I'd probably
end up installing to the ST251-1 for speed reasons (the 225 is dog slow).
I read that 6 megs is scraping bottom for ram amounts (8-12 is good, I hear).
I assume my video is up to the requirements, so that's not a concern.

Please email comments, I'll summarise if there's enough interest.
  Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1? (Why it may cost) READ THIS!!
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:42:03 GMT

>> I am assuming that IBM hasn't changed their policy of FREE upgrades :-)
>Sorry if someone has posted this information already but I was speaking to our
>local IBM person on friday (11/12/92). She said that the reason that OS/2 2.1
>has been delayed is because there is a fight going on between IBM and
>microsoft. Basically microsoft is trying to force IBM to charge for the next
>update because they recon that in moving to 3.1 code they can charge more.
>This stinks but IBM are trying to get it out for a media charge only.
>
I think IBM is going to offer a "upgrade" to OS/2 2.0+Service Pack, in the
same sense the Service Pack was an upgrade.

You know, charge for media and shipping only, distribute it free electronically.

Apparently, from the above message, this may not be possible.

I *do* know that IBM has said it will repackage the whole thing as OS/2 v2.1 andsell it.  It will be OS/2+Service Pack+Winos2 v3.1+drivers+few bugs+fast WPS+
etc., etc., ...

I've also heard that v2.1 will have improved docs.

Anyways, it will probably be $50 to all v2.0 owners.

I think IBM loses money if they only charge $50...wasn't that what was being said when IBM was charging $50 for v2.0?(mainly because of the "cost" of paying
Microsoft for each copy sold)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: Re: Help with dual monitor configuration
Keywords: os2 waffle 165
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 21:25:37 GMT

>>for echomon using "grep -i echomon 00Index" and the result was null.
>>There's no instance of echomon in the index.  A minute before that I
>>had mistakenly downloaded /pub/00Index.  Not only was I wrong, but 
>>it's wrong, too!  It shows that echomon resides in an archive directory
>>which (I presume), no longer exists.  That 00Index evidently is an
>>old one which no longer applies.  What now?

>Well, you shouldn't take any file reference I give too literally.  :-)

>If memory serves, the filename is either echomn12.zip or echmon12.zip.
>If you do a case insensitive keyword search on "monochrome" you might
>have better luck.

>-- 
>Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
>sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
>Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
>of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]

Its /pub/os2/all/drivers/ecomon12.zip at hobbes.nmsu.edu


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kskapin@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Keith T Skapinski)
Subject: IBM's failure to honor upgrade problem resolved!
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:54:39 GMT


Recently, I had posted a message about my brother trying to upgrade from OS/2
1.x to 2.0. The point of the message was that IBM forgot to enclose the form
in their envelope with the letter and thus my brother was unable to get it in
in time. IBM said too bad and wouldn't take the fact that they (IBM) screwed
up by not including the form into consideration.

I had received alot of response from various people from this group offering
to help or suggesting ideas. Unfortunately, IBM still wouldn't budge. I thank
you for you help anyway.

Finally, my brother filed a complaint with the Department of Consumer Affairs
and within weeks a copy of OS/2 2.0 arrived via express mail with an appology
letter. Basically, their letter (from IBM) applogized, told him they valued
him as a customer, and even said that they would reevaluate their policy.

The real point of this whole episode is how does IBM expect to have loyal
customers when they treat them like that. Have they ever heard, "the customer
is always right"? I doubt Microsoft would have been so unwilling to help him.
Now he's looking into purchasing a laser printer. It was a toss up between
IBM and HP but with the bad service he received from IBM, I'm sure he'll
go with HP. (Not to mention the HP is a better printer.)

Anyway, I just thought I'd let everyone who was helpful in this matter know
how it was resolved.
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From: utter@acsu.buffalo.edu (William M. Utter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Deleting Old Files?
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:31:26 GMT
Organization: UB


	Here's one for ya.  I want to know how I can get rid of old "back
-up Files".  I have 20 or 30 QWK packets with the extension ";#", I don't
need these files and wish not to see them everytime I do a DIR.  I have 
tired different commands using the DEL and ERASE functions and none of
them seemed to work correctly.  (DEL Board.QWK;* and Erase Board.QWK;*)

Thanks.






-- 
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From: hmkirchh@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SLIP for OS/2
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:07:43 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

patrice@cenparmi.concordia.ca (SCATTOLIN patrice) writes:


>Does anyone know what I need to run SLIP on OS/2? Is it available 
>on Hobbes, or an IBM product? 
There are a few TCP/IP products available. One is an IBM product which
includes an X-Server.

With this TCP/IP (IBM) you can use all usual commands such as FTP, TELNET etc,
you can mount other file systems (NFS) and it supports SLIP. You can find
it on the famous PDK CD-Roms in the current Beta-version or get the official
product of course. It is still 16 Bit (comes from OS/2 1.x), but from what
I hear, that does not matter really much. I'll try it next Tuesday, maybe.
-Hajo 
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From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Subject: PaulDev - who is he?? TRAP 000c
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:09:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Atlanta GA

I was trying to debug an XVT program last night and got a TRAP 000c error. This is
on the GA+SP with the C/C++Beta installed. Unfortunately, XVT has to be compiled
with default System linkage and the new libraries do not like this (works OK 
with the real CSET/2 compiler). I don't think that it is necessarily related to 
the debugger since I have some similar errors last week with the Beta OS. These
occurred when I was dragging files to another directory.

TRAP 000c    ERRCD=0000   ERACC=*******    ERLIM=********
EAX=d18f0000  EBX=7d266f50  ECX=0000e603  EDX=00000000
ESI=7d33e804  EDI=0036f6c4  EBP=00000000  FLG=00012286
CS:FIP=0160:fffaa7ea  CSACC=c09b  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0030:00005064  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=00004153
DS=0158  DSACC=c093  DSLIM=ffff CR0=8001001b
ES=0158  ESACC=c093  ESLIM=ffff CR2=014a0000
FS=0000  FSACC=****  FSLIM=****
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=****

Internal Processing error
at location ##160:fff6453b - 000d:a53b
60000, 9084

048600b4
PaulDev private, 92/08/19

I do have the 32 Trident drivers now, but last week had the "old" versions (non-seamless)
installed.

Any pointers, etc.,??

simon
From: atoenne@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Andreas Toenne)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra (hiding mouse)
Date: 19 Dec 1992 17:38:32 GMT
Organization: MPI Informatik
NNTP-Posting-Host: mpii02013.ag2.mpi-sb.mpg.de

Hello,

I have still minor problems with my ATI Graphics Ultra and WinOS/2.

I tried to install the original ATI Windows driver to fix the vanishing
mouse cursor problem. But the install.exe that came with the card cannot
install over winos2.

At least I managed to extract ultra.drv. This 8514 driver works really nice
together with winos2. But I do not know how to install the rest of the
fonts etc.

Can anyone please send me his system.ini with the proper settings for
the Graphics Ultra ?

Is there a normal fix to cure the vanishing mouse bug ?
I tried the proper settings for winos2 (from the readme) but this does
not work for me.

Thanx, Andreas
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Re: Diamond OS/2 Drivers (some info)
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 22:32:54 GMT

>	What are you talking about?!  That's been there as long as I can
>remember.
>

Oh.  Damn.  I had never seen that mentioned here and hadn't called them
for a while so I thought it was new.  So sue me.

>	"Today's message"?!?!  That's been there for as long as I can
>remember too!

Ok, ok. 

>
>	That's not an official acknowledgement!  That's what we call
>"giving you the run around."

Ah.  Who's 'we', you got a mouse in your pocket?
Followups to my mailbox......

--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Re: Compaq QVision drivers
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:21:03 GMT

>Strange..... I just tried running sp0406.exe under DOS 5.0 and didn't
>have any problems. As far as I know it does not use any memory other
>than than the first 640K, but just in case I tried all combinations I
>could think of with EMS, XMS, VCPI, DPMI, frame buffer, no frame
>buffer, etc. (sometimes I forget what a pain DOS is).  It does also
>run fine from a OS/2 DOS session, but if I run it from an OS/2 session
>it creates a DOS window and runs it there. If you can recreate the
>error I would be interested in knowing what the exact error message
>is.

Ok, just tried it again running dos 5.0 (don't even have OS/2 on this machine)
This is with qvision.zip from hobbes.  After typing sp0406 I get:

Attempted access to illegal or downed server (garbage acsii characters)
** Program Aborted **

Then I'm returned to my DOS prompt.  I'll bet it's something on my end.
Maybe that particular part of the disk is damaged, I am running QEMM 6.0,
and am attached to a network (Netware 3.11).  If nobody else sees this,
assume it's just me and I'll email you if I figure it out....

--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: vthrc@mailbox.uq.oz.au
Subject: (Q) driver for 20M floptical on SCSI
Organization: Vision, Touch & Hearing Research Centre
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:16:55 GMT

perhaps somebody might be able to answer a simple question that our dealer
doesn't seem able to: is there an OS/2 driver for an Insite 20M floptical
drive? We are currently running one under DOS with a Grassroots SCSI adaptor,
but that card incorporates an EPROM BIOS instead of a driver (see below). Maybe
some generic SCSI disk driver (for removables) would work, but the Grassroots
approach is nice cause it allows you to use it as a standard floppy drive as
well as supporting the 20M disks. I'm quite ignorant on OS/2, so I don't know
whether such a driver would be layered on top of the Adaptec SCSI driver or
exists as a standalone, but we'd be prepared to sacrifice the ability to boot
from the floptical and use it purely for the 20M disks.

Even if the Grassroots adaptor worked under OS/2, we're running out of slots
and would prefer to hang the floptical off an Adaptec 1[5,7]42. Nevertheless
I'd be interested to know whether the Grassroots card would work under OS/2.

PS normally I prefer monitoring relevent newsgroups before moving to a new
machine/OS, but this time around I don't have that luxury although I did scan
the FAQ.

PPS due to problems with our newsreader, I'd prefer to receive email replies
and if there's enough interest I'll post a summary.

cheers,
X500: @c=AU
       @o=University of Queensland
        @ou=Physiology and Pharmacology Department
         @ou=Vision Touch and Hearing
          @cn=Danny Thomas
           @rfc822Mailbox=vthrc@cc.uq.oz.au


some relevant sections from the Grassroots manual may be interesting, though
we'd prefer to use the existing [disk] Adaptec controller to save a slot:
"Host-bus adaptor includes its own BIOS, so drivers aren't required. Boots
MSDOS using 20M, 1.44M and 720K diskettes. Compatible with MSDOS versions 3.30,
4.01, and 5.00."

"[using BIOS instead of driver] This was done for three principal reasons:
FIRST, to take advantage of MSDOS's good support for removability in floppy
devices; MSDOS versions 3.30 and 4.01 have incomplete support for removable
disks in the standard built-in hard-disk drivers. As a result of treating
removable disk drives as floppies, there are no precautions or pitfalls
associated with disk changes as there are when removable disk-drives are
treated as hard-disks.
SECOND, since DOSs standard, built-in floppy drivers are adequate for use with
20M floppies, a BIOS approach makes it unnecessary to load special drivers via
CONFIG.SYS. Eliminating these drivers is an effective way of circumventing
their memory consumption as well as their compatability problems and the
confusion they cause for end users.
THIRDLY, using a BIOS instead of special drivers makes it possible to boot
MSDOS directly from Insite's 20M diskettes exactly as you would boot from any
floppy."
From: calica@cae.wisc.edu (Carlo James Calica)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Should I or Shoudn't I, install that is
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:12:25 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison

In article <1992Dec15.011429.17862@u.washington.edu> newsman@stein.u.washington.edu (Christian Ricci) writes:
>OK, I finally go my copy of OS2.  I want to install it but I only have 4 MEG
>of ram.  I can afford to upgrade to 6 Meg, but not 8, like I would like to.
>Should I wait to install OS2 until I have the money for 8 Meg or is the per-
>formance curve such that I could effectively use OS2 in 6?  Thanks!
>
>Chris
>
Definately don't install with only 4 megs.  Upgrade to 6 megs and then install.
When you can afford to go to 8 megs do it.  I have run OS/2 on 5,6, and 8 megs.
6 is atleast the minimum.  You'll be able to multi-task OS/2 and DOS programs
but don't try to multitask Windows.  Only give you a headache.  In my opinion
OS/2 is worth what it cost to upgrade your system.
				Carlo Calica

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