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From: spng@hfglobe.intel.com (Seo Ng)
Subject: Re: bicycle racing in Singapore (was Re: What's wrong with Singapore?)
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:43:58 GMT

anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee) writes:

>I was wondering if there are bicycle races in Singapore ?  Are
>there places where one can train ?  Are bicycles popular in
>Singapore ?

	Singapore is definitely not a good place to train cycling.  I can still remember the time when I used to train at Loyang.  Someone from my camp actually ran into a truck parked by the roadside to make phone call and he was paralyzed.  Another guy had a collision with a bus and fractured his leg.  In general, most driver simply ignore cyclists.

>--
>Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
>email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
>SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
>       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia


 +-------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
 |  S.P. Ng                |  A day without laughter is a day wasted.   | 
 |  spng@hfglobe.intel.com |               - Charlie Chaplin -          |
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Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:38:50 -0500 
From: Kevin Wengcheong Cheng <kc3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: romantic spots in Singapore

Try Pasir Ris Park...
It's pretty secluded. Just take the MRT all the way east and a bus ( I
can't remember the number )

The view is not that great with construction going on nearby but we
spent one of our most memorable afternoons there...

Oh yeah. It's next to the coast... though you won't find any sort of beach.

:)
/<evin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: seow@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu (Aik Siong Seow)
Subject: Re: Info needed on NTU Vax
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:17:23 GMT

In article <cfLfCQG00iV1Q1Nd81@andrew.cmu.edu> Kuo Chiang <blurp+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>kwanping@leland.stanford.edu writes:
>>	Hi!  I've been having trouble fingering the ntuvax machine (or v9000)
>>from my workstation at Stanford, USA.  Could someone tell me how to do it, or
>>could anyone explain to me why the connection always failed?
>
>I have the same problem. I used to be able to see who's logged onto the
>ntuvax by typing "finger @ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg". It seems that NTU has
>removed this facilty lately. Anybody in NTU cares to explain why?

Why dun you try "finger @ntuvax@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg"?
I tried it the other time after asking the same question and it workd perfectly.

>Also, when I finger my friends in nusunix, what I get is a long list of
>names that match what I typed in instead of only the information I
>requested. This occurs even when I use my friend's user-id. for eg:
>"finger scixxxxx@nusunix1.nus.sg" will give me a list of all the people
>in NUS whose name contains "sci", and not point out to the user with
>that id. Can someone enlighten me? Thanx a million.

Well, I did that and it's ok for me....ie I managed to get individual info.
However if I try nusunix2 or nusunix3, there seems to be no info unless that
particular person is logged on. That I need to be enlightened on... =)

** Chris Seow **
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: elltankw@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Kok Wan Peter (Dr))
Subject: Re: Joke about intolerance (was Re: Joke about Singaporean)
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:27:05 GMT

: In article <1993Jan19.151056.5281@philabs.philips.com>
ncl@philabs.philips.com (Nai-Chi Lee) writes:
: >
: >I have heard many versions of this same joke.  The U.S. (original?) version
: >was from USENET some 10 years ago, and it involved a British, a Franch,
: >an American and a Maxican.  The story goes: 
: >
: >  (blah blah blah)
: >  The British said "God save the queen" and jumped off.
: >  The Franch said "Viva France" and jumped off.
: >  The American said "Remember the Alamo" and pushed the Maxican off.
: >
Hmm - `Viva France' doesn't sound very `Franch' to me, pas du tout.  Very
Espanola in fact.  I think the FRENCH say `Vive la France!'  :)
                                          Peter the Pernickety
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Censorship
From: jbfink@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Adder)
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:35:43 -0500
Organization: Cabal of the Discordian Buddha

In article <C18svy.5GC@cs.uiuc.edu>, kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
> scip2124@nusunix1.nus.sg (MARC PAUL JOREF VAN LOO) writes:
> 
> [...]
>>  Here in Singapore, the government has her own
>>  reasons for censorship. These can sometimes be
>>  irritating, but they are not unreasonable or
>>  undebatable.
> [...]
> 
> You are lucky to live under a government that you can trust so much.
> Sadly, for me, I don't feel that I can trust my government (the USA)
> enough to authorized it to censor what I can say, hear, read, and
> write. You suggest that the value of censorship can be debated. I note
> that this is not true if such debate is censored.
> 
> - Carl
I personally don't trust my government (the USA) any further than I can throw 
it.
But if debate upon censorship is itself censored, then what is the purpose of 
the debate itself?

-- adder


> 
> ANNOTATED REFERENCES (to several US and Canadian documents)
> 
                    (deleted.. but very very very good)
From: liu@cs.unc.edu (Alan Ve-Ming Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Memory chips in Singapore
Date: 28 Jan 1993 08:38:42 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
NNTP-Posting-Host: centurion.cs.unc.edu

In article <C1K85M.4zC@newsserver.technet.sg> mathias@solomon.technet.sg (Mathias Koerber) writes:
>Yi-Shin Wu (wuys@cs.rpi.edu) wrote:
>
>: A fellow student asked me where in Singapore is a good place to
>: buy chips (not potato, but computer...specifically memory chips).

Another place to try is Convergent Technologies (no relation to the
*other* Convergent Technologies) on the 6th floor of Sim Lim Square.
They sell just about any kind of memory upgrade available on the 
market from PC main memory to cache and laser printer upgrades.  Ask 
for Pearl, discounts are usually available  for large volume 
(4Mb and up) purchases.  Most other places in Sim Lim Sq. cannot match
their prices.  Funan Center has recently (read: past couple of year)
become relatively upmarket and concentrates more on systems.

Al

#include <standard disclaimers>
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Joke about Singaporean
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:43:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gfMYWXi00iV385a8Ut
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Freinds,

.

This way we got the "new" Singapore channel? To have its honor stained
by the stink of racism. Is this it? To follow the way of a Crudy White
American Joke.
I am really surpised at this. 

Mr.TPHwee writes:

.

>Heard this funny joke from a colleague:
> 
>    An American, a British, a Malaysian and a Singaporean were on
>a cruise ship.  Unfortunately, the ship sank in the middle of the sea 
>and they boarded a life boat.  However, they soon realized that the boat 
>is leaking and can only take one person.
> 
>    "God save the queen", said the British and he jumped off-board. 
>    "God bless America", said the American, and he too, jumped off. 
>    "Majulah Singapura", the Singaporean said, and then pushed the 
> Malaysian into the sea.
 
-
ph
 
Obviously, you are some young boy from somewhere. Wonder, if I picked
you up and slammed you on the ground. I don't think that you have the
balls to say this in the presence of a Malay. This makes you a coward! I
hope that you would re-examine your intelligence and stop using your
time on worthless stooooooopiddddd jokes from sttttoopppppid worthless
Americans that aren't funny. And, quit acting like a child. You did go
to the Army didn't you????!!!??? Be a man then!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: sci20007@nusunix1.nus.sg (MA SOON PENG)
Subject: Re: Lecturing Lecturers
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:39:27 GMT

CHEW KOK CHOR (eng10039@nusunix1.nus.sg) wrote:
: 	I was really glad when news of lecturers in tertiary educational
: institutes being given a chance to take up courses on teaching came
: out.  I think it is about time that they learn how to really teach
: properly.
: 
  From the postings so far, it seems apparent that not all lecturers and
tutors can teach.  This is not restricted to NUS (or even NTU for that
matter) but I believe exist is all tertiary institutions.

  I agree that its about time that they get a chance to learn techniques
for effective teaching.


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From: liu@cs.unc.edu (Alan Ve-Ming Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: romantic spots -- SUMMARY
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:28:58 GMT
Organization: UNC @ Chapel Hill
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ganglion.cs.unc.edu

In article <1993Jan27.154622.1394@ncsu.edu>, big@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Alan Porter) writes:
|> 

|> Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I was looking for a good place to "pop
|> the question" to my girlfriend.  No nookie intended... at least not this
|> time.   :-)

Ah!  That's different.  Then I would definitely recommend the Compass Rose.
Go early though, the queue of people waiting to enter can be long as the evening
progresses.

So, from one Al to another, any place in NC you can recommend for the same 
purpose?

Al
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: isc20390@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHONG KAH YUEN)
Subject: Re: S`poreans own Modems
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:31:21 GMT

Tero Laakkonen (laakkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI) wrote:
: In <1993Jan23.070011.12313@nuscc.nus.sg> eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE) writes:
: 
: >On the contrary. With the upgrading of the national telephone network to
: >have ISDN capabilities, more people will be expected to work at home.
: 
: s'pore has ISDN? wow! are terminal adapters and stuff cheap in s'pore?
: 
Errrr.. The idea is to have ISDN in Singapore (by 2000 AD) thats the
idea... when , how and who will have the system up is still not confirm.

								John F Chong

============================================================================
Internet : isc20390@nusunix1.nus.sg		Address : 26 Jalan Rendang
	   chongkah@vms1.iscs.nus.sg			  S'pore (1542)
IRC Nick : Bandong (Mmmmm.....)				  Singapore
Location : National University of Singapore	Tel	: (065)447-0346
	   DISCS				Pg.	: 607-2815
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.asean
From: c9b-ap@po.berkeley.edu (HakLien Chua)
Subject: Status of soc.culture.malaysia Re: Discussion on Malaysian sultanate amendments
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:10:27 GMT

The CFV for soc.culture.malaysia hasn't been issued yet, and even if the
organiser for the votes were done counting the
and s.c.m'sia did actually
pass, we would still need about two weeks to see it come up.

So... unless you're willing to wait a month, we'll still have to use
this newsgroup as our flaming ground.

Chua
+==+
From: tchua@soda.berkeley.edu (Terence Chua)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: ACS Boys get in touch!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:35:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu


I've got the GO-word, and am making inquiries into how to set up a
mailing list for ACS, like rafflesnet. So, what I need is all those
ACS boys or girls out there who have Internet access, i.e. can receive
e-mail,  to write to me at T.Chua@qmw.ac.uk so I can get your
addresses down and start building a databse of sorts. 

Send a mail to me with ACS somewhere in the subject line so I know
where I can file it. And if any of you know how to set up a mailin
list or have a site handy where they *can* set one up, please let me
know as well. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: sa2263263@v9001 (ROLAND U)
Subject: TEST
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:57:00 GMT

TEST. That's what the subject line says..

Roland U.
sa2263263@ntuvax.nut.ac.sg 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: an1975@anon.penet.fi (I. AMI)
Subject: What's wrong with Singapore?
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.singapore
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:51:10 GMT

yu@plains.NoDak.edu (A. Yu            ) writes:

> Road bullies! Well, show me some proof! Are you Singaporean? Please don't
> blemish my countrymen. I take it that you have been thru some unpleasant
> circumstances, every places has their bad eggs.
> 

C'mon! Stop playing the `know it all' and assume everything
that others say is without ground or proof.  Why don't you
spend sometime reading your country's paper.  Also don't let
your imagination run wild. On the contrary I have very
pleasant memories of Singapore.  What's not right is blowing
one horn too much especially if it is on something
unsubstantiated. It only make others laugh.  By the way don't
assume I am not Singaporean either.


I. ``no smiley'' AMI

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.asean
From: sa2263263@v9000 (ROLAND U)
Subject: Re: Discussion on Malaysian sultanate amendments
Followup-To: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.asean
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:52:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.083149.27461@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes... 
>It would mean that the kings will not even be entittled to what an ordinary
>citizen can get.
Please elaborate. I think what the government has done was to open the
"royal" wards which can only be used by royalty to the public. 
I think the royalty are still entitled to use the wards. Its just that 
the wards will be used if the royalty are not using it.

	The properties of the kings are the property of the state governments.
>By letting the property rot, will be a great disservice to the state.
Not true. The properties of the royalty can only be used by the royalty and is
considered by them to be theirs. By not allocating money, the onus to upkeep
their properti will be on the royalty. This will encourage them to have fewer
palaces, cars, etc etc
> 
>How about the governers, the yang di pertuan negaras of Sabah, Sarawak, are
>they also not entittled for the privileges?
>	Why should the kings be the only ones targeted? Shouldn't the other
>heads of states also affected?
> 
This "targeting" only started because the royalty have gone too far in their
abuses. Although, some may doubt the authencity of this allegations, like
the folks say " Ain't no smoke without fire ". If the governers or other
high figure were to misuse ther authority, they will most definately be targetted
and in their case, sacked.

>Question of immunity only during official duties is very hard to establish so
>was not implemented in all other countries. Do you know that the President of
>Singapore also have full immunity? So are the other heads of state in Malaysia,
>and other commonwealth nations, and even all the royalty of the Britain, unlike
>Malaysia where the immunity is only for the Sultans.
> 
The head of states are elected by the people and the people feel that they
have done wrong, believe me, they will force the wrong doers to go..e.g Brazil's
ex-president. The royalty of Britain is only existing because of Queen Elizabeth
and because of their entertainment value..;]
> 
>: There have been tales of manslaughter and in one case, murder, with
>: allegations made in parliment that a sultan killed his golf caddie.
>This was a very old story but only come out now. You may wonder why?
> 
If I were fighting a war of words and trust, anything I can use for ammo
will be used.



Roland U.
sa2263263@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg " Good is just not Evil "
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: f54713@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Ellis Yan-Chee Lau)
Subject: Any Institute for Japanese Studies in NUS
Organization: Data Processing Center, Kyoto University, Kyoto, JAPAN
Distribution: soc.culture.singapore
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:22:51 GMT

Does anyone know if there is any institute or department for Japanese
Studies in National University of Singapore.
I appreciate if anyone e-mail me the name(s) of any relevant departments
or institutes and the names of directors in charge of them.

Thank you in advance.

--
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                 From:  Ellis Yan-chee Lau   $@N-(J $@28;|(J
                        f54713@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp
                        KYOTO UNIVERSITY, JAPAN
From: menghee@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (MENG HEE HENG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Bukit Timah MGS
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:38:28 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan27.021100.15425@iti.gov.sg> kevin@iti.gov.sg (Kevin Patt (SE)) writes:
>Bertrand Lee <chameleon+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>
>>The Bukit Timah MGS has been around for some time already.
> 
>Err, not really.  I believe the building is up, but I doubt it's ready for
>occupancy.
>

	I believe the Bukit Timah MGS has been operating for more than
a few months. I've seen MGS girls streaming out to Bukit Timah Road
after school.

Heng Meng Hee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: law30056@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KEN HWEE)
Subject: Re: S`poreans own Modems
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:45:12 GMT

TEE LUNS (tee@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan23.173121.17930@nuscc.nus.sg> isc20390@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHONG KAH YUEN) writes:
: >Errrr.. The idea is to have ISDN in Singapore (by 2000 AD) thats the
: >idea... when , how and who will have the system up is still not confirm.
: 
:    Hmm.. I remember distinctly, an exhibit at the Singpoare Science Centre
: in the Lower Exhibition Hall of the OmniPlanetarium/OmniTheatre building
: (the area where you lounge around waiting to see the Omni-Theatre movies).
: It was about ISDN, and it claimed that Singapore already has completely
: implemented the first stage of ISDN - i.e. everything between switching
: stations - and that you can get terminal adapters which convert what the
: switching station sends to the plug in your wall back into digital. What
: was not yet implemented was the second stage - that of converting the
: analog user-lines over to digital so that the terminal adapters are no
: longer necessary: you get digital data right out of your wall.
:
Methinks that's correct.  It's a matter of time.  I think 5 years should
be about it.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: big@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Alan Porter)
Subject: romantic spots in Singapore
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:04:04 GMT


I will be visiting Singapore in a couple of weeks, and I'd like to
find a nice romantic spot to take my girlfriend.  Something like a
park or a quiet spot with an inspirational view...  A good place for
an afternoon walk...

You guys know of a good place to go?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: laakkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Laakkonen)
Subject: Re: S`poreans own Modems
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:51:58 GMT

In <1993Jan23.070011.12313@nuscc.nus.sg> eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE) writes:

>On the contrary. With the upgrading of the national telephone network to
>have ISDN capabilities, more people will be expected to work at home.

s'pore has ISDN? wow! are terminal adapters and stuff cheap in s'pore?

-tero
From: ddjohnson@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Rae's "corruption"? (was Re: NDP "communism?")
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:23:18 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

It has recently been written:
> no, actually the real explanation is that the New Demolition Party
> has spent 2 or 3 decades making unreasonable promises and bitching
> and whining about everything specifically *because* they didn't think
> they would get elected. it is easy to promise utopia (which is practically
> and NDP platform plank) when you don't have to back it up. Rae was
> only caught "off-guard" because his victory would mean he'd be
> held accountable for the positions he held. which is why he has
> alienated just about everyone.

Just what do people want? When governments do not follow through 
on campaign pledges they are (rightfully) flamed. But when they 
do they are trashed. To flame Bob Rae for being honest is nothing 
more than anarcharastic!

DDJ
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Smithers, British Columbia	 Cambodian proverb
CANADA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson)
Subject: Re: US as No. 1 (3 data books)
Reply-To: robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson)
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:39:23 GMT

Riel Smit (gds@ikura.cs.uct.ac.za) wrote:
>godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes
>> In article <1k1aa5INNp2f@pandora.sdsu.edu>, larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry  
>Riedel) writes:
>> > My experience has been that a large percentage of the people who have
>> > emigrated to Canada did so because they couldn't get into the United
>> > States 
>> 
>> Absolutely agreed.  Canada is hugely inferior to the US in all respects,
>> and Canadians occupy considerable time and efort ina fruitless attempt
>> to try to convince people otherwise.

>Well, this immigrant Canadian is thankful that most people (according to some)  
>perceive the USA as "the place to be", since that keeps them away from "messing  
>up" Canada :-).

>You know how it is: you discover this great place (restaurant, holiday place,  
>country, whatever) and after a while you notice everyone else did too and the  
>place is not the same anymore and consequently not so great anymore either.

>So, yes, Canada is hugely inferior to the US, go to the US instead (but we  
>Canadians, immigrant and otherwise, know better :-).

And I would like to take this opportunity to point out to Mr Godfrey and
others that BC is easily the most inferior province of Canada :-)
-- 
Jim Robinson
robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com
{ubc-cs!van-bc,uunet}!mdivax1!robinson

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