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From: mono@daimi.aau.dk (Thomas Skou Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Sorry! (3 * same posting)
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:23:03 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark


                      (*sigh*) Sorry!

The system kept on return my article so I succeeded in posting it 3 times before I found out
what was going on.

.... just another newbie.

/Thmoas Skou Hansen   ;-)


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From: sterba@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: PgDn feature on HP48. Does it exist?
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:26:31 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

Question:  (already asked by me about 6 months ago, but never really answered)

Is there a way to do an equivalent to PC's PgDn and PgUp keys on the 48?
What I am trying to do is to type a textfile on my PC, say 500 characters long,
transfer it to my 48 and then be able to access the information contained in
the textfile.  I can already do that, but after viewing it using the EDIT (or
REVIEW/down arrow) only lets me scroll through the text line by line, or just
all the way to the end.  I would love to be able to 'page down' one
screen-length for the sake of speed...  Is there a program that would either
just do the page up/downs or even do string search?  I looked the db and db48
programs, but if I understand it correctly, they are not really geared for this
type of a thing... 

My appologies if this seems totally trivial to you, but I asked a whole buch of
people and no one has a clue about it...

Thanks,

Yours Truly    - -   Peter Sterba
                     Sonoma State University
                     RP, California
From: akcs.mmorgan@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Mike Morgan)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:40:03 GMT
Subject: system RPL and symbolics
Message-ID: <2aaa34db.1668comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Any Body,
 
Two questions for those knowledgable in *system* RPL
 
 
1.  To make it simple, how do I put:  '3*A1*t' on the stack?
 
2.  To make it complicated, how do I then substitute a value in
    for A1 after I calculate it?
 
I want to place various equations on the stack and substitute
certain values in for *some* of the constants.
 
I want to leave the 't' as a variable so the user will be able
to plot the equation *after* program execution and after s/he,
of course, sets the independent variable to 't'.
 
I haven't been able to put anything like '3*A1*t' on the stack
with system RPL.
 
Mike Morgan
M00012@KANGA.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mikeb@rmit.EDU.AU (Michael Barnett)
Subject: diary software wanted
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:52:52 GMT

Apologies if this message should be posted elsewhere, but I don't read
this group normally, and so don't know where else it should be posted.

I am looking for some software that will allow me to use my hp48 as
an electronic diary/planner (yes, I realise this is a rather inane use
for such a powerful calculator, but what the heck).

If anyone has written such a beastie, or knows where I can get my hands
on something that will do the trick, please let me know.

Please send all replies to my email address (mikeb@rmit.edu.au).

-- 
=======================================================================
Michael Barnett - System Administrator, Computer Centre, +61 3 660-2934
Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology.    Internet: mikeb@rmit.edu.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: msch0073@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Matthias Schunter)
Subject: Eigenvalues on HP28S
Reply-To: msch0073@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:13:34 GMT

Does anybody have a program for computing Eigensystems on the HP28S??

Thanks in Advance

Matthias


(Eigensystem of an n x n Matrix = n Eigenvektors and n Eigenvalues)

---

Matthias Schunter
e-mail: msch0073@rz.uni-hildesheim.de

From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: diary software wanted
Message-ID: <2ab61b62.1689.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Well, it's here.

SCH48 is a scheduler/diary library for the HP48.  It allows the setting,
viewing, editing and deleting of alarms in a graphical environment that
is more intuitive that the built-in alarm functions.  It displays a
calender with a date cursor.  It also displays the alarms that have been
set for that day, both the text form and a time-line form.  Alarms can be
set as a single point in time or as blocks of time for display on the
time-line (i.e.  10:15-11:45  "Meeting", get the idea?)

I have posted this on the HP BBS at hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com in the files.hp48
conference.  The SCH48 library can also be found at seq.uncwil.edu under
hp48/Uploads.  I have put it here in the hopes that Chris Spell will put
in on comp.sources.hp48.

Let me know what y'all think about it

Bill Levenson
akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com
From: storhaug@ndre.NO (Geir Atle Storhaug)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: How do I enter statistical data?
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:24:22 GMT
Organization: UNCW news/mail gateway service


------------------------------ Start of body part 1

If I have the following dataset:

Value    No. of samples
1        9982
1.5      8733
2        8337
2.5      1973
3        1278
....... etc. 

and want to compute mean value etc. What is the easiest way of entering
the data? 


------------------------------ Start of body part 2

 ___     ___ Geir Atle Storhaug
/ ___/\ (__  storhaug@dione.ndre.uninett
\__//  \___) Office:+47 6 807516 Home:+47 6 838987

------------------------------ End of body part 2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: X10017@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Philippe Rameau)
Subject: Re: File Transfer to/from HP48SX
Organization: Motorola
Date: 14 Sep 1992 02:38:59 CDT

       Hi,there

          The problem might be because the PC is waiting for a signal
   coming from the HP, I have  accountered such problem when directly
   programing a PC with Turbo Pascal and DOS interruptions. The PC is
   waiting for DSR (Data Set Ready) which is used in datacomunication
   purposes and is a  signal coming from the  DCE (Data Communication
   Equipment) and means that the DTE is ready to receive and transmit
   datas. The PC  (DTE Data Terminal Equipment) is providing  the DTR
   (Data Terminal Ready) to tell the  DCE that it is up and ready for
   communication.

        I have also tested file transfer using Kermit and OS/2 and
    same problem arrived. Best way to  solve it should be to strap
    pin 20 (DTR) with pin 06 (DSR) on a RS232 cable on the PC side
    and see what is happening.

        Goodluck .


------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Xref: schbbs comp.os.os2.apps:6357 comp.sys.hp48:4958
From: davem@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Dave Mckinny)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.hp48
Subject: File Transfer to/from HP48SX
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:14:09 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta


	Hi there,
I have been trying to get my calculator to talk to my pc running os/2 and have
been having absolutely no luck. So far it is the ONLY thing I haven't been able
to do under os/2. Here`s the situation I have the serial cable and the MS-Kermit
that comes in the HP kit. Kermit loads ok but when I try to transfer it locks up
during or just after the first packet. I usually have to kill the window from
the Task List. By the way it's a DOS program (shudder).

1) Is there a difference (?sp) between MS and C kermits?

If so that explains why all the C-kermit programs I've tried don't work. I've
tried every kermit and communications program I could lay my hands on and they
all have one of the following problems.

A: It doesn't have kermit protocal
B: It has kermit and runs in os/2 but will not talk to the HP.
C: It will not run in os/2.

2) How about PMTerminal (softerm.exe)?

I've been told that it will talk to an HP, but I can't even get it to start
so that I can read the help files! To the person I talked to before (forgive
me I lost your address and name so I'm mumbling in public now) I've tried
both the new and old com drivers, neither work. When I type "mode comx" is
does not see com1 (my mouse is on com1) but com2 is just fine. I've tried
using mode to change the settings, but with no luck.

Basically I`ve tried every setting and configuration my novice, embryonic brain
can conceive of and nothing works for me. I know it's something I am missing.
Please some kind soul give me explicit directions on how to do this. I would mos
prefer to get PMTerm working.

System configuration:	386SX (NEAT motherboard) 8 megs ram
			AMI bios 7-7-91 keyboard controller F
			Standard VGA
			2 physical hard drives (Maxtor IDE's)
			2 serial, 1 parallel (1 game not used) ports

		Thanks for your time
		David D. McKinny
		e-mail to davem@orl.mmc.com or ieee@engr.ucf.edu
		or just post
From: windsor@chester.ksu.ksu.edu (Rob Windsor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com? seq.uncwil.edu?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 11:55:46 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: chester.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1992Sep9.175153.7422@ac.dal.ca>, asuncion@ac.dal.ca writes:
>
>1) How do you download files from hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com via telnet?
>
>2) How do you gain access to seq.uncwil.edu? Name: anonymous
>   Password: ??????????...........

No, no, no......

You must use FTP to download files.  TELENET is used to log onto a system, 
not transfer files. 

Try "ftp seq.uncwil.edu".

-- Connected to seq.uncwil.edu.
-- 220-   Thu Sep 10 12:50:32 1992
-- 220 [stuff deleted....]
-- 220 seq.uncwil.edu FTP server (Version 6.20 Wed Sep 2 08:31:14 EDT 1992) ready.
-- Name (seq.uncwil.edu:windsor): 

Now, type "anonymous".

-- 331 Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password.

To be nice, go ahead and type "yourid@yourhostaddress"

-- 230-*************************************************************************
-- 230-*                       Welcome to the HP 48 Archives                   *
-- 230-*                                   at                                  *
-- 230-*               The University of North Carolina @ Wilmington           *
-- 230-*                                                                       *
-- 230- [rest deleted....]

You're now ready to fly....

Hope this helps
-- 

Rob@K-State.Manhattan.Kansas.USA.Earth

To the computer: windsor@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Goodies Disk 7
Message-ID: <2ab634ef.1716.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

It's already there!!!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: ppetto@wariat.org (Peter J. Petto)
Subject: Looking for Better Stopwatch
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Public Access Uni* Site
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:02:38 GMT

I want to use my HP48 to do time-motion studies (and to analyze
my own time to see where it all goes).

And since I write programs only as a last resort, I thought I'd
check here to see if anyone can direct me to an existing program
that does what I want (or can be modified to do what I want).

The program should be a stopwatch, with menu keys that create splits
labeled for particular tasks or subtasks.  The split data can then
be subtotaled for each label; and analyzed in other ways.

Has anyone seen anything like this?  Is the source for HP's
STPWATCH.LIB available?

Thanks, I'll summarize the answers I receive and post the results
here.

---
Peter Petto          |       ppetto@wariat.org
Bay Village, Ohio    |    73125.617@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: heeschv@cognos.com (Brian VanHeesch)
Subject: Re: AAHHHH!!!!  My screen is missing a row of pixels!
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:29:40 GMT

sackett@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Scott Zimmerman) writes:
: 	I know I saw something about this a few months ago, but I never
: 	thought it would happen to mee!  I hadnt touched my 48sx all summer.
: 	Now when I need it most, I lose a row of pixels on my display.
: 
: 	What are some know causes of this problem, how much does it cost
: 	to get fixed, and what needs to be done, ie send to HP?
: 
: 	Thanks for your help...   sackett@csd4.csd.uwm.edu 
: 
NO WAY!  the exact same thing happened to me, I lost the fourth column from
the left.  HP here in Canada says it'll set me back $200.  They just give
a new Calc w a new 1 year warrenty.

That sucks!!!
 
From: akcs.n2kyw@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Paul Smith)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: AAHHHH!!!!  My screen is missing a row of pixels!
Message-ID: <2ab2398e.1680.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: screen

sackett@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Scott Zimmerman) writes:
:       I know I saw something about this a few months ago, but I never
:       thought it would happen to mee!  I hadnt touched my 48sx all
:       summer.
:       Now when I need it most, I lose a row of pixels on my display.
:
:       What are some know causes of this problem, how much does it cost
:       to get fixed, and what needs to be done, ie send to HP?

I've heard of people having this problem before, but I dont remember if
they managed to get a free fix for it.  
I suspect there could be several reasons/causes of this phenomena,
including: driver chip problems (non-user fixable), broken circuit trace
(user fixable, but not easy), and poor zebra strip contact (user-fixable,
but may cause as many probs as it fixes).

Assuming you have decided against paying big bucks for repair, and
assuming you are the adventuresome type, like me (i.e. foolish), you
might want to attempt to attack the zebra strip possibility - possibly
the more practical of the aforementioned approaches.

I have a document that entails how to take your hp apart (also avail at
seq.uncwil.edu as /hp48/desc/openhp48.Z),and I can provide further info
if you need it.

Paul Smith
v055qmd6@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Subject: HP Corvallis tours...
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp48
Originator: george@unixg.ubc.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:05:47 GMT

Howdy,
  I'm planning to take a trip down to Oregon in October and I was
  wondering if HP Corvallis gives any tour of their facilities. It would
  interesting to see the home of all the great HP calculators... Does
  anyone know whether this is available or not?

George
From: carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Carter Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: HP48 display anomoly
Date: 13 Sep 92 05:58:26 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

bobc@natinst.com (Bob Conyne) writes:
>I don't know if anyone else has noticed this or not (apologies if this is 
>common knowledge), but System Flag -52 (which controls whether the object in 
>level 1 displays on one or all four lines), does not work as you might expect.  
>IF, 
>however, the object being examined is a binary integer (beginning 
>with '#'), it 
>will occupy only one line regardless of the state of -52.  To duplicate this,

Ahoy, Bob!

  I don't really see this as an inconsistency.  The multiline display will
go into operation by breaking the object in level 1 into its component 
elements and displaying them on separate lines.  Since a binary number is a
single elementary object (it cannot be broken into components) it cannot be
displayed on multiple lines.  If it broke up the element, I'd be pretty upset
about it.

Carter R. Bennett, Jr. - Scientist      No matter where you go...
carter@scilab.lonestar.org - home                 .../dev/tty!
carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org - work
KI5SR
From: asuncion@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com? seq.uncwil.edu?
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:51:53 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


1) How do you download files from hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com via telnet?

2) How do you gain access to seq.uncwil.edu? Name: anonymous
   Password: ??????????...........
From: enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: deleting libdat_v1.0 :<
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:27:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway

Detlef Mueller <detlef@dmhh.hanse.de> writes:
|
|   Use the following little program to generate the weired identifiers, then
|   you can simply PURGE them:
:
|       IF DUP SIZE 255 > THEN
|	   "String too Large" DOERR
|       END

The longest string that the command line parser accepts as a name is 127
characters long.  A longer string results in an "Invalid syntax" error.
It could be that the name length is a signed quantity.

Thanks for the little program.

Best regards,
</Erik>
--
Erik Naggum             |  ISO  8879 SGML     |      +47 295 0313
                        |  ISO 10744 HyTime   |
<erik@naggum.no>        |  ISO 10646 UCS      |      Memento, terrigena.
<enag@ifi.uio.no>       |  ISO  9899 C        |      Memento, vita brevis.
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Modest Challenge #2
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:54:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.92Sep13235407
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores

I would hate to give away the answers to Joe Horn's challenge,
but I am willing to share some trivia that will help those who
are trying to figure out which of the three GCD programs is the
shortest and fastest, and why.

There are a couple of subtleties to the structure of a
WHILE-REPEAT-END clause.  Between WHILE and REPEAT, you can put
any sequence of objects without having to bind them into a single
program object.  However, between the REPEAT and the END, there
must be only one object--if you specify multiple objects, the
user RPL compiler compiles them into a single program object.  If
there is nothing between the REPEAT and the END, a null program
is inserted, because there must be at least one object to
traverse if the REPEAT condition fails.  If you specify only one
object, then it does not have to be surrounded with DOCOL and
SEMI, providing a significant savings in space and execution
time.

Those of you who have read _HP 48 Insights, Vol. I_ may already
know this.  In any conditional where a sequence of objects could
be skipped if a test fails, then the sequence is combined into a
single program object which can be traversed using the program
object traversal method.  Therefore you get a 5-byte savings if
only one object can be placed between THEN-END, THEN-ELSE,
ELSE-END, or REPEAT-END (and probably some others; I don't have
the book handy right now).  Those of you who have dabbled in
system RPL have also encountered this; the low-level system RPL
looping and branching constructs expect single objects in
conditionals but system RPL compilers won't enforce the rule, so
you have to be conscious of when a multi-object conditional needs
to be surrounded by DOCOL and SEMI.

I don't know that there are any really Deep Thoughts involved in
understanding the space requirements of the three GCD programs;
the behavior described above is not particularly tricky or
inconsistent.  However, it may be contrary to what some of you
might have thought.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:52:09 GMT
Subject: Re: PCX -> GROB conversion
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

In comp.sys.hp48, crh@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (Ron Henderson) writes:

> |> try 'telnet hpcvbbs.fc.hp.com' to get there.  (QUESTION FOR OTHERS:  Does
> |> hpcvbbs support FTP?)
> 
> Actually, Ray, that's hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com, but you really knew that :-)

Oops!  8-S  That's what happens when your fingers move faster than your brain.
Thanks for the catch, Ron -- and sorry, all.


-- Ray 
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
           ^^--------------- yes, it's 'fc' here...
Good thing I don't speak for HP, huh? .....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: zobel@solan.unit.no (Holger Zobel)
Subject: Amigaprogs.
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:47:56 GMT


I am in need of a KERMIT program for the Amiga computer...
  If anyone could by so kind, and mail me the adress of a site where I can
get it, it would be great.



   Holger Zobel
   (zobel@solan.unit.no)           

             "Jeg kan ikke spaa men jeg gjetter faen saa bra"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: twilhite@nyx.cs.du.edu (Timothy R. Wilhite)
Subject: Sparcom cards
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:22:31 GMT


I would like to get some feedback on the following Sparcom products: 
Spice48 and the Calculus card.  I also that Educalc have a new card by
MicroNation called Verbb.  Verbb lets you draw circuit diagrams right on
the screen.  If anyone has used Verbb I would appreciate feedback also.
Thanks in advance.

 -timothy r. wilhite
From: flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: CMT ram cards, batteries and troubleshooting
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:45:37 GMT
Organization: Flavio Casetta, Reg'd HP ISV & OEM of handheld computers.

Dear 48ers,

here are my suggestions for CMT 128K RAM card users.

I sold CMT RAM cards in the past two years and never experienced problems
with them (until yesterday) when I tried unsuccesfully to turn my HP48 on.

I supposed the battery was low because I never replaced it since the date of
purchase (December 90). During this period the card was always plugged in.

I bought a new battery.
When I replaced the expired one with the newly bought, I got the unexpected
message "LowBat(P2)".

Hence I tried to check battery voltage, discovering that the expired cell 
still gave 3V.
The newly purchased battery gave less than 0.05V. What a lucky purchase !
I bought another cell (of a different manufacturer) and things went better.

In conclusion:

I don't know how the HP48 detects a low battery condition in a port, but
I must suppose that the HP48 detects low voltage and not low intensity, at
least when the card plugged in is a CMT.

Do not wait for the message "LowBat(Px)". It is likely you will never see it.

Buy a fresh battery ! Check the expiration date beforehand and possibly
replace the battery by the reseller: if the battery is dead ask him
for a new one.

Save your valuable data somewhere (not just on RAM cards !).
If the battery goes low, you will learn what a memory recovery is.

Possibly store important data as backup objects. The checksum is there
for signaling memory corruption.

Hope it helps.


__
* flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta)
 ----------------------------------------------------------------
| The usual disclaimer does not apply      |   +59 440404 (Voice)
| ForCALC's opinions are necessarily mines |   +59 304490 (Fax)
From: akcs.n2kyw@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Paul Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Wanted: Remote Control
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:40:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvbbs.2aac0993.1652.3comp.sys.hp48.1

If anyone is interested, there is some very good documentation on
file-compression utilities and where they can be found.  The document can
be ftp'd from ftp.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.59) as the file
called /doc/pcnet/compression.
Paul Smith
v055qmd6@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: akcs.mage@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (William H. Blohm)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: GD7 SNAFU IN SMTK.DOC
Message-ID: <2aaf8704.1683.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>