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From: PPARKER@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Does anyone know how to make a two-stack equation?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 12:38:50 CST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:18:23 GMT
>From: yfchyan@athena.mit.edu (Yih-Feng Chyan)
>
>Does anyone know how to make a two-stack equation?  e.g. within a big curly
>bracket, there are two equations, each occupying one line.  And this two-stack
>equation has an autonumber associated with it.
>
In LaTeX, you can nest an array inside an eqnarray to do this.
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From: lingnau@math.uni-frankfurt.de (Anselm Lingnau)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: float.sty 1.1c available
Summary: New classes of floats and 'PUT THE FLOAT HERE FGS' for LaTeX
Keywords: TeX Floats float.sty here.sty
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:01:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Frankfurt/Main, Dept. of Mathematics

Christmas is coming up, and a new version of my float style package has been
made available for anonymous FTP:

`float.sty' lets you define new classes of floats in a manner analogous to
\newtheorem{...}. It also adds the notion of a `float style' governing the
appearance of floating objects much like the `page style' governs the 
appearance of pages in a document.

The main difference between Version 1.1c and previous versions is that Version
1.1c incorporates the functionality of David Carlisle's `here.sty'. Although
LaTeX provides a float placement specifier [h], commonly called `here', this
specifier only suggests to LaTeX `put the float here if you like'. here.sty 
and float.sty support another specifier, [H], meaning `PUT IT HERE'. With
float.sty, the [H] specifier is available for LaTeX's standard floats as
well as newly-defined classes of floats.

float.sty 1.1c replaces the former multi-file distribution of `float'. The
style contains its own documentation, but Frank Mittelbach et al.'s `doc'
package (available from all good servers) is required to take advantage of
this. With the `docstrip' package, float.sty can be converted to a nearly
comment-less, fast-loading file.

float.sty 1.1c is available as ftp.math.uni-frankfurt.de:pub/tex/float.sty
(141.2.90.2 for those without a name service). I've been trying to upload it
to Stuttgart, but I can't get any packets through :-( Maybe on Monday.

Acknowledgements: David Carlisle proof-read and tested this version of
float.sty. But for him you'd all be in for some nasty surprises :-) Thanks
also to FM and all of those who collaborated on the `doc' package.

Merry Christmas to all of you,

Anselm
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From: carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk (David Carlisle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Misc LaTex problems (was: numbering from 1 with titlepage)
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:42:19 GMT
	<gmaltby.1.723836914@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za> <29313@castle.ed.ac.uk>
	<9DEC199217043135@reg.triumf.ca>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: asnd@reg.triumf.ca's message of 10 Dec 92 01:04:00 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Dec 92 01:04:00 GMT, asnd@reg.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau) said:
....
Donald> In fact LaTeX is not usually used this way.  Once you are writing your
Donald> own macros it is easier to NOT use LaTeX. 

It may be easier to avoid LaTeX, but doing it in LaTeX is worth the
trouble.

Donald>  Extensions to LaTeX require not just a good knowledge of TeX,
Donald>  but a clear understanding of how the rest of LaTeX is
Donald>  written, and great care to avoid conflicts. 

This is unfortunately true (and fixing this is very much in the minds
of the designers of LaTeX3) however the problems arise because latex
users *expect* more or less any two styles to work together. The have
this optimistic view because of the (relative) robustnuss of the LaTeX
system, and the fact that the standard latex commands can be used
together in most sensible contexts.

If I were to write a bunch of macros sitting on top of plain TeX,
there would be no guidelines at all for interacting with other
packages, or the `look and feel' of the user interface level. In order
to write a LaTeX style file, I may have to re-write large chunks of
latex internals, but if I manage to get the whole works to come out
with a latex look-and-feel, it is much easier for latex users to use
(given that they wont read the documentation!) and there is at least a
chance that it will work with other packages written by other authors.

LaTeX is not TeX-made-easy it is TeX-at-a-higher-level. 
Writing higher level constructs is likely to be hard, it is using them
that is supposed to be easy(er)

David (A LaTeX user :-)

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From: hamlin@aps.org (Chris Hamlin 2369)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: \text and NFSS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 13:45:03 -0500
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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>
>       .
>       .
>       .
> Using \text is a very bad idea since it defined in lfonts.new the replacement
> lfonts.tex loaded for the NFSS.  This then affects the definitions of
> \pdollar and \ppounds which use \text.  The definitions are
>       .
>       .
>       .
>

I checked my lfonts.new but didn't find \text defined. In nfss.bug I found

** (36) FMi 92/03/21: Macro \text was renamed to \nfss@text to make it
        internal because people complained that the name is too
        common. The style file amstext.sty will redefine this to
        behave like the \text macro in amstext. This means that people
        who wish to use \text the way it was before need to load
        amstext.sty in the \documentstyle command.

So it looks like FMi and RS have now given us back \text, BUT it is may be safer
to use another name unless you know exactly what you're running on.


Chris Hamlin, mis@aps.org
From: ramezani@are.Berkeley.EDU (Cyrus A. Ramezani)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: BibTex on Personal Computer: HELP PLEASE!
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:13:30 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu


Dear Tex Experts,

   I am a new user of latex and the rest of the package, particularly
BibTex.  I run these programs as part of the emTex package on my PC.
In the old days when I was hooked on Troff and its side products,
I used a program called `addbib' to create bibliographical data basis.
This program was an interactive program that asked for author, journal,
page number, etc.  It then created a file with approriate field indicator
(eg.\author{}) inserted with each category. Now my question:

IS THERE AN INTERACTIVE PROGRAM (FOR PCs) THAT CREATES A BIBLIOGRAPHY FILE
USABLE BY BIBTEX THAT I MAY GET FROM SOME FTP CITE?

Some kind folks on the net have told me about programs for x-windows.
Would you know of any thing that runs on a PC.

I thank you in advance.  

Cyrus.

P.S. please send email to me as I don't read this group often.
From: wagner@ives.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: (IBM PC) dvivga shows blank screen
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:25:52 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

I would like to be able to view .dvi files at home,
even though I create them at school.  I would eventually
like to get to a full LaTeX work environment at home
(probably EmTeX, from other posts here), but this seems
like a reasonable first step.

I got dvivga.zoo from somewhere, and extracted the files
contained in that.  I got a dvivga.doc , .exe, a bunch of
font files in a directory called FONTS, and some stuff I
haven't looked at in a directory called INPUTS.  I set
TEXFONTS=c:\tmp\fonts, TEXINPUTS=c:\tmp\INPUTS, and FONTLIST=pk.

I down loaded a .dvi file from school, and tried to run dvivga
on that file.  I get a white screen w/no print visible.  However,
the program doesn't appear to be hung--  if I push the up arrow or
down arrows keys or the PageUp PageDn keys, the hard drive
access light comes on.  This makes me believe that one of two
things is going on:  

	1)  dvivga thinks it's display the file properly,
	but somehow the colors got mapped to white on white.
	I don't see any way to control colors in dvivga.  Do
	I need ANSI.SYS installed for dvivga?

	2)  dvivga can't find the right font files.
	I see any error messages, but I'm not quite sure how
	to look for them.  I saw a -q option, but I didn't
	see the opposite, if that's what I need.

Any help would be appreciated.

A pointer to the FAQ files for this newsgroup would also be
greatly appreciated.  I would like to set up EmTeX at home,
and I assume that the FAQ will tell me how to do that.  I
also need to know how much space EmTeX will take-- I'm
hoping on 10-12 MEG or less, and I assume that info will be
in the FAQ.

Thanks,
Mike
wagner@cs.unc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Math fonts design howto description.
From: ecsgrt@luxor.latrobe.edu.au (Geoffrey Tobin)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:08:02 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
Keywords: math, fonts, tfm, tex, metafont, postscript, miscellaneous fonts
Summary: Math Fontdimen's require detailed explanation and instructions.

Apart from "Computer Modern Typefaces", is there any fully detailed
description of how to write math fonts for TeX?

What do we have to tell MetaFont, in order to make all those
fontdimens?

How do we edit TPL files to add math fontdimen's to math fonts from
non-metafont sources?

Geoffrey Tobin
From: pla_kbh@sld60.math.uh.edu (Kurt Behnke (TEAM SOS))
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: DVI - WhAT Is IT
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:41:59 GMT
Reply-To: user@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Communication Systems, Nuernberg, Germany

|> 
|> I have looked in this groups FAQ.
|> 
|> What is dvi? I am guessing its the intermediate dev indep form producved
|> by tex? Is it in 7bit ascii (like the ditroff ouput)? Is there a published
|> standrard?

first guess: right! (It's not so device-independent though. People prefer to
move source files between machines, rather than dvi s)

second: No, its binary.

third: Yes, there is a published standard. -> Computers and Typesetting,
vol ?, by Donald Knuth.

KB
From: "Daniel H. Luecking" <DL24794@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: hyphen in math mode
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:24:45 CST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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>From: <gilligan@central.bldrdoc.gov>
>Subject: Re: hyphen in math mode
>
>   I wanted to print a normal hyphen in a complex math formula. I even tried
>
>   edefhm{-}
>
>   outside math but in all my attemts I got math minus instead. Can someone
>   help me with this problem?
>
>Try \hbox{-}, as in $x - y\hbox{-}z$.

This will not allow the hyphen to change sizes in sub/superscripts. I'd use
{\rm-} as in $A_{y{\rm-}x}$. I do not use the NFSS, so I don't know if it
will handle this properly.
>
>---Jon

Dan Luecking
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Need a LaTeX package for the PC
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:38:51 GMT

In article <1gforpINN3dk@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE> jaenicke@emserver.ee.tu-berlin.de (Lutz Jaenicke) writes:
>In article <MANDAL.92Dec13112518@rose.cis.ohio-state.edu> mandal@rose.cis.ohio-state.edu (Manas Mandal) writes:
>>Please give me pointers on which option to follow. Since it is only
>>for a short time, I would like something that is easy to use and
>>doesn't use too much space. If you can suggest a nice DVI previewer,
>>I would be very grateful.
>
>Use the first class EmTeX-package, it contains LaTeX and very good DVI support
>for printers and screen. I never heard of Windows support, but since I don't
>use Windows, I'm not 100% sure.

In fact, you'll find that emTeX is even better than the Unix version.
It's easier to install, maintain, and the .dvi drivers are the best
I've seen.

-Joel
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: yhtao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yu-Hui Tao)
Subject: Where are the complete AFM font ftp-sites??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:47:53 GMT

Hi, netters:
  
   I have installed NFSS and PSNFSS. But I could not find all the necessary
FONTS for PALATINO.STY and TIMES.STY files. In most of the anonymoust ftp
sites, I could not find the following AFM fonts:

  For palatino.sty:
    pplrc: Palatinao (Small Caps),
    pgsr, pgsri, pgsb, pgsbi, pgsro, and pgsrc: All the Gill Sans family.

  For times.sty:
    phvrc: Helvetica (Small Caps),
    ptmrc: Times-ROman (Small Caps).
 
  Any instruction about the possible ftp-site is appreciated!

Yu-Hui Tao
OSU, ISE
tao@CSEL.eng.ohio-state.edu
===========================
From: mkstehr@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Mark Stehr)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Subsubsubsections - Help wanted !
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:23:22 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Summary: How do i program Subsubsubsections in TeX ?

Hi.

I'm writing on a TeX-Text. Now i wonna have Subsubsubsections 
like 3.4.1.7 'Text'. To program Subsubsections is no problem...
but how do i program these Subsubsubsections ?

Ciao and Thanx,
Mark
From: Anita Zanolini Hoover <anita@ravel.udel.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: PLEASE note mispelled SUBSRIBE to SUBSCRIPE
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:19:12 -0500
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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It was brought to my attention that SUBSCRIBE was mispelled for
the new e-mail discussion list, you should use

 To subscribe to this list, send the following two lines to
   "listserv@ens.fr" on the Internet:

	   SUBSCRIBE METAFONT $<$Your name and affiliation$>$
	   SET METAFONT MAIL ACK



Sorry for the mistake, please make note of it!!!!


Thanks to Paul Howard for bringing this to my attention.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: \bigsqcap in (La)TeX ??
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:14:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland
Cc: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz

In <7083@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> foxcj@cogs1.essex.ac.uk (Fox C J) writes:

>Can someone tell me how to obtain a symbol for the dual of \bigsqcup,
>ideally in LaTeX?  

Try the St Mary's Road symbol font, available from the Aston archive.

Jeremy

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From: foxcj@cogs1.essex.ac.uk (Fox C J)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: \bigsqcap in (La)TeX ??
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:14:18 GMT
Reply-To: foxcj@essex.ac.uk (Fox C J)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

Can someone tell me how to obtain a symbol for the dual of \bigsqcup,
ideally in LaTeX?  I sometimes use lattice-theoretic model
constructions for which this symbol would be useful.  If I used the
cap/cup, vee/wedge symbols, then my notation would become ambiguous.
I have already tried

	\mbox{ \Huge $\sqcap$ }

in LaTeX.  This results in a symbol smaller than \bigsqcup, and
obviously I would have to fiddle around to obtain the same
sub/super-script behaviour of \bigsqcup.  I have also tried

	\mathchardef\bigsqcap="1347

in TeX, but this gives the same symbol as \bigsqcup (="1346).

Any solutions, or suggestions (preferrably  by E-mail) welcome.

Thanks,
	Chris Fox

Email foxcj@uk.ac.essex | Chris Fox,  Computer Science Dept.
Tel.  +44 (0)206 872770 | University of Essex, Wivenhoe Park 
Fax.  +44 (0)206 873598 | Colchester, Essex CO4 3SQ, England
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Subject: Re: input only existing file
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:45:14 GMT

In article <85467@ut-emx.uucp>, myers@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Eric Myers) writes:
|>
|> [...]
|> 
|>   With that warning in mind, here is what you can do to read foo.tex
|> only if it exists:
|> 
|> 	\newread\Infile 
|> 	\immediate\openin\Infile=foo.tex 
|> 	\ifeof\Infile			% will be EOF if file does not exist
|> 	  \immediate\closein\Infile	% just close it
|> 	\else				% not EOF, so file exists
|> 	  \immediate\closein\Infile	% close it
|> 	  \input foo.tex		% and read it in 
|> 	\fi

The \immediate's are not necessary here (althought they do no harm). Only
\openout, \closeout and \write are delayed by default.

This technique is, of course, the one that LaTeX uses when `conditionally
reading' its .aux, .toc, etc files.

Chris Thompson
JANET:    cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx
Internet: cet1@phx.cam.ac.uk
From: droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Looking for GEORG HORN !!!
Date: 9 Dec 1992 11:21:37 GMT
Organization: CC/CS Uni-Koblenz
Distribution: world
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In article <maren.723378961@freyr> maren@sif.research.ptt.nl (Maren E. van)  
writes:
> Hi, 
> 
> I would like to get in contact with Georg Horn, the author of 
> TexCad. Please, does anyone know his address ??? (e-mail)

He studied at our University. He got his degree, so he's no longer here.
His address as far as we know is:

	Georg Horn
	Dorfstr. 34
	W-5231 Isert
	Germany
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From: DL24794@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU (Daniel H. Luecking)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: TeX's memory
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:18:03 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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From: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
> From: dl24794@uafsysb.uark.edu (Daniel H. Luecking)
> >    (1) Is there a good source that explains what each of the 14
> >        items on page 300 of the TeXbook means, and how to design
> >        one's input file to avoid exceeding the capacity of each?
> >
> >    ...
>
> Here's a quote from the book 'TeX by Topic':
>
> For each input source an item is allocated on the input stack.
> Typical input sources are input files (but their simultaneous
> number is more limited; see below), and token lists
> such as token variables, macro replacement texts, and
> alignment templates. A~macro with `runaway recursion'
> will overflow this stack.
>
> Victor

Well, that's 1 down and only 13 to go. Actually I have Victor's book on
order at our library.  If he addresses the other 13 as well as this
then I think I have my answer. (Recall the question was for a good source
explaining all 14 items.) Well, almost.

I might point out that the list (above) of things stored does not seem to
include either parentheses in the \def\recurse{(\recurse)}\recurse
example, (unless the meaning of the phrase `macro replacement text' is
different than Knuth's usage or the phrase `token lists' includes tokens
saved for later insertion). The following three examples of `runaway recursion'
have three different effects:

\def\again{\again}\again         % Merely(!) hangs the computer.
\def\again{and \again}\again     % Capacity exceeded [main memory]
                                 % (but in emTeX386 produces a
                                 % "swapper I/O error")
\def\again{\again!}\again        % Capacity exceeded [input stack size]
                                 % \def\again{!\again!} has the same effect.
Apparently, TeX saves the "!" in the third example in the input stack
for insertion after its expansion of the preceding "\again".  But in the
second example the "and" is contributed to the main memory right away
(what else?).

Thank you anyway Victor.

Dan Luecking
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith)
Subject: centering and changing fonts in section -- HOW??
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:06:47 GMT

How do I get sections centered and \LARGE?

--
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Department of Economics
MIT E52-252C
Cambridge MA 02139
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e-mail: lones@lones.mit.edu  (NeXT mail or the garden variety stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: Importing .sty files...?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 10:33:41 GMT

Marc WANDSCHNEIDER (storm@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:


: I wanted to put the following at the beginning of one of my LaTeX documents:

: \documentstyle[11pt,fullpage]{article}
: ...
: ..
: .
: \input{psfig}


: However, EmTeX for the PC doesn't have either of these facilities, and
: generates the error message that goes something to the extent that it can't
: find fullpage.sty and psfig.sty.

: I was just wondering if I could copy these and all related files off the 
: Sun4 we have here and use them with EmTeX at home...?

yes, the style files should be transferable. the slight caveat is that
if  that there may well be problems if the style file uses \special's
to communicate information to the dvi driver program. while i'd fully
expect fullpage.sty to work i would have my doubts about psfig.sty
*unless* you are using the same dvi driver program at home and work.
i.e. if psfig generates \special's which tell dvips to stick in some
special postscript code into the ps output and you try to process the
dvi file with, say, dvihplj you'll get at best a blank space and at
worst something a bit strange where the ps insert was meant to go.


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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: lan_schn@rcvie.co.at (Wolfgang Schnabl)
Subject: input only existing file
Organization: Alcatel - Elin Research Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:05:13 GMT

Hi.
I want to include a file into TeX if the file exists. If it doesn't,
nothing should happen. Is there a possibility to check within TeX,
if an specific file exists?

	   Thanx, Wolfgang.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: KDAE@rusvm1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Ernst Willand)
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor, Scientific-Word
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:38:53 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.text