HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu (Roger Stump)
Subject: Re: Miles with McLaughlin and Sharrock (Jack Johnson record)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 23:29:54 GMT

I checked Jack Chambers' bio of Miles regarding Sonny Sharrock on
JACK JOHNSON.  He quotes Sharrock as saying "I am on the Jack Johnson
album on the Yesternow side, near the end.  I'm soloing using an echoplex,
mixed down low under Miles."  This quote was apparently taken from an
article in Jazz Journal (June 1972).  Chambers goes on to point out that
a second guitar can also be heard on "Right Off," on and off for about four 
minutes starting at 20:44.  He speculates that this could be either Sharrock 
or McLaughlin overdubbed.  In any case, the final guitar solo starts at 
about 24:40, and there is clearly only one guitar playing at that point.

I'm convinced that that's McLaughlin in the final solo.  There are many
elements of the solo that are uniquely typical of his style at the time:
  25:04   the little run of notes
  25:11   the higher bent note -- really a distinctive feature
  25:14   the run of notes starting high and ending low
  25:36   the high bent note, pause, and the same note again -- very
             typical of his style
  25:52   high bent note
  25:53-  the run of notes with a single note repeated many times --
   26:00     again, he did this all the time
  26:10   run starting with high note
  26:14   run starting with high note
  26:19   high bent note
McLaughlin's solos on his DEVOTION album, the early Mahavishnu albums, 
and his album with Carlos Santana all contain these same elements in
abundance.  Well, I'm convinced anyway, but then I'm also fallible.

-- 
Roger W. Stump
University at Albany
rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Wayne Wylupski)
Subject: Re: McLaughlin's broken hand and Florianapolis
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:37:56 GMT

In article <anderson.715055557@phage.cshl.org> anderson@phage.cshl.org (John Anderson) writes:
>1. A while back, someone posted (I think to r.m.b) that John McLaughlin
>broke his hand in 1990.  

In a downbeat article he said he dropped a tv on his hand.  His finger was
1/16" away from being crushed beyond repair.

>2. When I saw the JM Trio last May, he said in introducing
>'Florianapolis' something to the effect that Florianapolis, Brazil is
>a nice town but the jail is not so nice.

Are you sure it wasn't Bela Horizonte (my spelling may be off)?  In Boston
he said something similar, but the impression I got was that the jail was
infamous.

>I wonder, is there a connection between 1 and 2?

No.  The finger incident occurred at his home.  I think being the global
citizen that he is (plus knowing Paco De Lucia) he just keeps track of the
news.

wayne
-- 
Wayne Wylupski    {...!}uunet!inmet!wayne    wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com
From: mossingh@henri.ma.utexas.edu (Mike Mossinghoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Flecktones (Was SRV fans)
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:41:57 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin Mathematics

laurecr@eng.auburn.edu (Chase R. Laurendine) writes:
>   On a different topic, when I was at Wild Man Steve's the last time, he had
>some fantastic music playing in the background, I asked what it was and he said
>it was the new Bela Fleck & The Flecktones CD.  What would you call this music,
>blues, bluegrass, jazz,...  I think I might buy one of there CDs next, any 
>suggestions as to the best CD of their's to buy?

They have three:
  Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
  Flight of the Cosmic Hippo
  UFO TOFU

You can't really go wrong here.  I've enjoyed each one maybe a little more
than the previous, so go for UFO TOFU.  They all blow me away.
The title cut from UFO TOFU incorporates musical palindromes, also Sex in the
Pan on this CD is a nice bassy song with a James Brown kind of beat (they
played this number with Branford when they were on Jay Leno a couple weeks ago).
Cosmic Hippo really jams on Blu'Bop and Turtle Rock.  Their first CD has
what I'd call their signature tune, The Sinister Mister.

These guys are awesome at a live show -- see them if you get a chance.

Flecktone music is notoriously hard to categorize, but I'd call it jazz
(admittedly a very general category); beyond that they're in a category
of their own.

You can also find Bela Fleck on the New Grass Revival records.  They're
disbanded now, but they have a fun sound -- kind of like Earl Scruggs
meets Aretha Franklin in church.

 -- Mike
-- 
Internet:    mossingh@math.utexas.edu
Sneakernet:  R.L. Moore Hall 10.138  U.T. Mathematics
Favorite Foods:  Chitlins Con Carne and UFO TOFU
From: mpb@terminator.cc.umich.edu (MIke Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Diatonix
Date: 3 Sep 1992 22:45:43 GMT
Organization: nasa-jsc


No Kidding Ted,
E-A-D Button Accordion,  stamped made in Germany.
Corona II, old style (meaning all black, wood/plastic, 
slightly rounded buttons on the right hand). 
I promised the keyboard layout to someone on the
net and will post it this weekend if anyone is interested.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:37:59 EDT
From: Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject:    Info wanted on Buddy Mondlock

First, thanks to the few who could figure out that Buddy Mondlock was the
guy I was looking for.  Does anyone have any details on him?  Does he
have any recordings?  Where are they available?  As I mentioned before, I
only heard a brief interview with him on the radio but I was very impressed
with the snippets they played and would like to hear more.  Any info
appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris Himes
From: KR#4@lafibm.lafayette.edu (KR#4)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: RE: SUMMARY:  Songwriters' "Cover"s
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:27:21 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <lab10mINNsrq@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> landauer@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer) writes:
>I requested:
>> "Songwriters' Covers" ... a well-known singer/songwriter [sings] a song
>> by another songwriter ...  Anyone have other favorites?  If there's any
>> interest, you're welcome to reply by e-mail and I'll summarize.
>
>Well, aside from some scattered disagreement about the precise meaning of
>the word "cover", interest is/was decidedly cool (is a week a reasonable
>amount of time to wait these days?).  (The one suggested addition to my
>list, from Patrick Visel, was Archie Fisher's rendition of Stan Rogers'
>_Witch_of_the_Westmere_Lands_.  I also added Michele Shocked's version
>of Jean Ritchie's _The_L&N_Don't_Stop_Here_Anymore_.)
>

You have the direction wrong ... Archie Fisher wrote Witch of the
Westmere Lands, and Stan recorded it.  THe original is on a record
"Man with a Rhyme" on Folk-Legacy, released in 1977.  Stan's live
recording was made in April 1979.

Roland Kushner, Lafayette College.
From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Mutant Viola?
Keywords: identification, instrument, viola, mutant
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:17:24 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Aug26.013017.422@ttinews.tti.com> bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart) writes:
>The funky-looking scroll is pretty true-to-life, though: it isn't like a
>violin scroll, it's more like a guitar or mandolin: flat, not scrolled
>into a string box, and with machines instead of pegs.  Not only that,
>but there are *8* machines, despite the fact that when I bought it,
>there were only 4 strings.  There are extra grooves in the nut and extra
>holes in the tailpiece, so it looks like you're supposed to put the full
>8 strings on it...although the bridge that was on it when I bought it
>
>There are holes where you'd expect a violin or viola to have f-holes,
>but they're not f-shaped.  They're like parentheses, with some
>cross-pieces (I'm not even going to ATTEMPT to draw them here).

Horycow!  Sounds like a medieval fiddle!  Not likely, 'course, though it
might be somebody's reconstruction, but those C-shaped holes are a dead
giveaway.  Only other thing I might guess is it might be Yugoslav or
something similar.  8 machines... maybe some kind of mutant Hardanger
fiddle?

	- Leigh Ann


Leigh Ann Hussey 		leighann@sybase.com
"They're mine!  All mine!  And what's mine is mine!" - Daffy Duck
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Lyric requests
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:46:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Davis

Two totally unrelated songs that I'm looking for words to:

"The Gypsy Rover"

with first verse:

The Gypsy rover went over the hill
Under the valley so shady
He whistled and he sang till the greenwood rang
And he won the heart of a lady

and

"Greenback Dollar" (Kingston Trio standard)

with chorus:

Oh I don't give a damn about a greenback dollar
Spend it fast as I can
For a wailin' song and a good guitar
Are the only things that I understand

Thanx in advance,

Richard
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: e343gv@tamuts.tamu.edu (Gary Varner)
Subject: Re: Songwriters' Covers (was Re: The Dutchman)
Organization: Center for Peripheral Philosophy
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:14:35 GMT


Anybody know the origin of the term "cover"?  The sense of the term
as used in this thread is not in my Webster's Third International.
I'm wondering why the word began to be used this way.

 
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From: colin@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Colin Matheson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: St. Olaf's Gate: Where is it?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:17:16 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Sep2.174742.18271@st-andrews.ac.uk> rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson) writes:
> most early touns(say
>10th century onwards) were ringed with walls - also usefull for curfews. And
>the gates took on even more significance for defense and exclusion. I should
>imagine that the Norwegians were a lot more religious than the scots if they
>named their gates after St Olaf.

This is true, but as someone pointed out a wee while ago, the word
"gate" is descended from the Old English (and Old Norse) word for
"road".  The Cowgate in Edinburgh has nothing to do with the modern
notion of a gate, for instance.  The usage survives pretty late in
Scots - Burns' "Tam O'Shanter" has a late 18th Century example, and
there are plenty of others.  In fact, Collins Dictionary even gives
the modern meaning of one use of "gate" as "a way, road, street, or
path" in Scots and northern English.

Colin
-- 
Colin Matheson     Phone: +44 31 650 4413    | Centre for Cognitive Science
                   Fax:   +44 31 650 4587    | University of Edinburgh
JANET:  colin@cogsci.ed.ac.uk                | 2 Buccleuch Place
        or Colin.Matheson@edinburgh.ac.uk    | Edinburgh EH8 9LW Scotland
From: karen.aberli.1@nd.edu (Karen Aberli)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Help!  Please delete me from bluegrass mailing list!!!
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:48:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.folk,rec.music.country.western
Organization: University of Notre Dame

In article <1992Aug26.123203.17132@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
slywczak@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Rich Slywczak) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Aug25.190735.3639@godzilla.quotron.com>, jeff@godzilla.quotron.com (Jeff Marder) writes:
> |> if anyone sees this who can do something about this, please help.  the
> |> volume of mail is too great for me.  thanks!!!
> |> 
> |> -- 
> |> ===========================================================
> |> jeff@godzilla.quotron.com
> |> Quotron Systems   310-302-4316
> |> 
> 
> What is the "bluegrass mailing list" and how can I get on it??
> 
> --Rich 
> slywczak@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov
I would like to get on this mailing list also.  Tell us how!

Karen
aberli@nd.edu
From: cimo@cs.montana.edu (Bob Cimikowski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Michelle Shocked
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:00:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Sep2.170024.1864
Organization: CS


I went to a Michelle Shocked concert here in Bozeman last night and, since I hadn't
heard her music before, I came away with a quest for more info about her.

First of all, I would like to say that she gave an excellent performance and
really entertained the crowd (about 1,100 strong) with humorous stories,
anecdotes, and jokes about her father and her Texas upbringing.  Her recount of
learning to drive an old VW on the red clay backroads of Lindsley, Texas were
particularly funny. 

As far as her set goes, I'm pretty fussy about the kind of material I like, so
there were some songs which I thought to be somewhat mediocre and perhaps a little
boring, like a couple of long talking-blues-like numbers about her childhood friends.
However, there were a few which I especially liked, in particular, "Cotton-eyed Joe",
"500 Miles", and "Strawberry Jam," plus some others which I can't remember now.

My question is, what CD are these songs on?  Anybody know?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: europa@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (r.j.capik)
Subject: Re: Request for lyrics to non-official verse of _Puff the Magic Dragon_
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:06:04 GMT

From article <Bttxn1.4tq@world.std.com>, by jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman):
> hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com (Holly Hendricks) writes:
> 
> 
>>this is one of my favorites - I used to teach it to my kids in
>>school - and at Girl Scout camp!
> 
>>Twenty years later, Puff arose once more
>>He awoke to hear the sound of knocking at his door
>>His door it opened wide to show a smiling, shining face
>>As little Jackie Junior came to take his father's place
>>--
> I'm not sure whether the addition is a good idea.  The song as written
> always gives me goose bumps because of the line
> 
>   A dragon lives forever, but no so little boys
                                      ^^^^^^
> 
> with its subversive equation, growing up = dying.

I must say that I never took that view. To me the active word in the
line was little, in that, as people grow up they stop visiting their
imaginary friends.
Remember, the line was balanced with "...make way for other toys".
I always saw the song as a continuum, if not Jackie Jr, then some other
child would come along and explore the wonders of this imaginary world.
I have a 4 year old niece that seems to always have a dragon or two in
her pocket. I expect in a few years she won't be seeing much of puff.

I don't think the added stanza was needed, but I for one, don't
feel it is at all out of context.

Ron Capik
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Wheel of Fortune lyrics?
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:18:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.195009.26988@wheaton.wheaton.edu> clhoerth@david.wheaton.edu (Cathe L Hoerth) writes:


   I have a recording of Jean Redpath singing "Wheels of Fortune", and
   there's a couple of lines which I cannot for the life of me decipher.
   Can anybody help me?  I'm having trouble with the first two lines of the
   first verse (right before "one fine day I'm going to see her, whether
   she be rich or no") and the second line of the second verse ("Lassie,
   I've got gold and silver, lassie, I've got ...., lassie, I've got ships
   on the ocean, all to sail at your command").
   If anyone knows them, I'd appreciate your help.  It's so difficult to
   absentmindedly sing a song you don't know the words to!
					   Cathe

Maybe you should buy a vowel? :-)

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: martinf@microsoft.com (Martin Fernandez)
Subject: Re: Where is Alison Krauss?
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:37:43 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

I believe she's playing in Seattle at 
Bumbershoot sometime during Sept 4-7th?
From: peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Orealis!
Organization: Zone4
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:08:05 GMT

 dooley@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Kevin Dooley) writes:

>I recently got up and walked out on an Orealis performance.  I thought
>that their drummer was terrible and stomped all over the solos, and the
>keyboards were completely superfluous and really detracted from the music
>(I don't care about 'folkiness', musically it served no purpose).  However, 
>a lot of their material was pretty interesting and the flute/whistle player 
>was remarkably talented.  If they'd just get rid of the keyboards and 
>replace their drummer, they'd have a pretty good band.

Really? When they played outdoors here (and I credit them with the brutal
sunburn I received too... I have this dayglo pink face now... :^), they 
sounded quite good... The drummer actually played pretty well and didn't
strike me as stomping all over the solos... Granted, the keyboards were
sort of annoying at times, but most of the time they were used well, IMHO.
There were just a few moments when I wished they toned the old synth down.
The CD is quite good, because there is no drumming on it. The two brothers
who play bass and guitar/flute/whistle in the band now, as well as the
drummer weren't on the CD - just the singer/guitarist, the keyboard
player, and a guy playing hammered dulcimer (which I like, so hey...) About
the only problem with the record is that the keyboards are a bit too
prominent (which usually happens in studio recordings where keyboards are
being used). Ah well... minor grievances... it was worth it just for
"Dream Angus"...


     _/\     /\__Piotr F. Dubiel___peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca__/\     /\_
        \_/\/                                                  \/\_/
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: oprwarx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Walter A. Rich)
Subject: DAvid Wilcox-First album?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:07:00 GMT



What is David Wilcox's first album?


Walter
From: tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Michelle Shocked
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:53:13 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Sep2.170024.1864@coe.montana.edu> cimo@cs.montana.edu (Bob Cimikowski) writes:
-->However, there were a few which I especially liked, in particular, "Cotton-eyed Joe",
-->"500 Miles", and "Strawberry Jam," plus some others which I can't remember now.
-->
-->My question is, what CD are these songs on?  Anybody know?

"Joe" and "Jam" are both on "Arkansas Traveler," a generally
terrific album. "500 miles" I don't know about.  Is this the
old Peter, Paul, & Mary song? I think there are >1 songs with that title 
that could fall in the folk category.

A pity you don't read this group regularly (maybe you will
now that you've found us?); there was much discussion of this
album when it came out earlier this year.

Anyway, hope this helps!
Tristan

-- 
e-mail: tbd@neuro.duke.edu
Department of Neurobiology, Duke University Medical Center

"grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! oot piffoo blaboo..." -- Opus
From: stevena@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Steven Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: "Music Access": Sing Out! mag 900-number service
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:33:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cory.berkeley.edu

Does anyone who has used this sample-it-before-you-buy service
have an opinion they care to share?

  Steven Alexander
Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:5851 rec.music.misc:22249 rec.music.dementia:1302
From: tim@muvms3.bitnet (Tim Calvert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc,rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: musical coincidences [SUMMARY]
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:23:26 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

In article <1992Aug24.210314.17813@ico.isc.com>, carnes@ico.isc.com (Steve Carnes) writes:
> 	milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken) writes:
>>    I think he [George Harrison] further bemoaned the situation in a later
>>    song called something like "Sue Me Sue You Blues".
> 
> Whereas I thought that particular song was in response to Paul
> McCartney suing the Beatles to get out of the group, and the Beatles
> countersuing, and Apple Corp. suing, etc.

I don't know about "Sue Me Sue You Blues", but as I recall Harrison wrote a
song called "This Song" in response to the "He's So Fine" / "My Sweet Lord"
episode. I don't remember the song very well, except that it contained the
line

	this song, there's nothing bright about it

I believe "He's So Fine" was released by or owned by or in some way associated
with the Brite record label. Of course, this all comes from my memory, which
is notoriously unreliable. Or did I mention that already.

Tim

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Marshall University			Internet: tim@marshall.wvnet.edu
Huntington, WV				Phone:    (304)696-3210
					FAX:      (304)696-3601
From: morlan@afit.af.mil (Bruce W. Morlan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: ry cooder?
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:35:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: afit.1992Sep3.163550.3258
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

>>> 	I watched a movie the other night called Crossroads (aka the Karate 
>>> Kid Goes to Mississippi). But it had some great blues music... The credits 
>>> attributed them to Ry Cooder. What can you tell me about Ry Cooder. Is the 

IMO, Cooder is really, really good.  I saw the movie "Southern Comfort",
which lists him on the music credits.  I have seen every CD ever made
on the "South Pacific" theme in an (unsuccessful) effort to find "Southern
Comfort" on CD.  Sigh.
-- 
Bruce W. Morlan, Major, USAF             Air Force Institute of Technology
Dept. Department Head                    AFIT/ENC
Department of Mathematics                WPAFB  OH  45433
From: lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Josh White Jr
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:00:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug31.150033.25139
Organization: Western Washington University


Back in the late seventies I saw Josh White Jr twice, both times as
an opening act for Tom Paxton.  He was excellent.  I have his album
Sing a Rainbow and an earlier one called, I think, Josh White Jr.

Believe it or not, until I saw JWJ I had never heard of Josh White
Senior (ignorant suburban that I was/am).  Now I have a bunch of
his records too.  (JWJ sang several of his father's songs in concert...
and one or two on SING A RAINBOW).
From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Authors of Songs
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:37:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Sep3.183706.5031
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


Re: request by Steve Putz

Steve,

I am posting this to the net to make sure you get it.

I did not say that Johnny Horton wrote "Battle of New Orleans."  I said
that he RECORDED it.  The lyrics were written by Jimmy Driftwood, set to
an old fiddle breakdown called "Eighth of January."  That tune was most
appropriate, as the battle was fought on January 8, 1815, two weeks after
the treaty ending the war had been signed.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.australia
From: jablin@nevada.edu (DOUGLAS JABLIN)
Subject: Australian Folk?
Originator: jablin@helios.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:00:30 GMT

I've been interested in folk music, especially celtic, folk-rock coming
out around the world. I've only heard snippets about bands of this vein
coming out of Australia. There was a friend of mine who stayed there
for about a year and couldn't track down anything. If anybody could fill
me in on the folk music scene, the bands, description of the music,
recommended albums I would be much obliged.

			Doug

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk