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From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re:      Re: Smoking
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:15:18 GMT



     There were also objections to tobacco in the Muslim world in
the late 16th, early seventeenth century. According to the
seventeenth century Moroccan chronicler, al-Ifrani, in
AH1001/AD1592-3, the Sultan of Morocco, Mawlay Ahmad al-Mansur
(whose reign marked the peak of the Sa'di dynasty) brought an
elephant from the Sudan (i.e south of the Sahara). Its arrival in
Marrakesh, the capital, was a big event - everyone came out to
watch it. In Ramadan AH 1007/March-April AD1599 the animal was
taken to Fez. According to al-Ifrani, 

     some writers say that because of the arrival of this elephant
     into Morocco there appeared this wicked plant named tobacco
     because the blacks who came bringing the elephant brought with
     it the smoking of [tobacco] and they declared there were
     advantages in it, and it spread from them to the Dra` and
     Marrakesh and other parts of the Maghrib. And the fatwas of
     the `ulama (May God be pleased with them) contradicted each
     other from the moment it appeared. There were some who said
     that it was forbidden, and some who said it was permitted, and
     some who said nothing'

Notes: the Dra` is a river (sometimes) and region in the far south
of Morocco

a fatwa is a legal opinion given by an `alim (pl `ulama) - an
Islamic religious and legal scholar - as to the legality of a
particular course of action. 
Muhammad al-Saghir bin al-Hajj bin `Abdallah al-Ifrani, NUZHAT
AL-HADI BI-AKHBAR MULUK AL-QARN AL-HADI, edited and translated
Octave Houdas, 2 volumes  (1=French translation; 2=Arabic), Paris,
Ernest Leroux, 1889, pages 162 (arabic text), 264 French text.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:31:56 EDT
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Subject:      WINDO ALERT

                                  MEMO

From:          James Love
               Taxpayer Assets Project

RE:            Update on GPO WINDO legislation
               (HR 5983, successor to S. 2813 and HR 2772)

Date:          October 5, 1992


BACKGROUND

Congress is considering legislation that would provide the public
one-stop-shopping *online* access to federal information systems and
databases through the Government Printing Office (GPO).  The service,
which would *supplement* other agency and private sector information
products and services, would be priced at the *incremental cost of
dissemination* for most users, and be free to 1,400 federal depository
libraries.  A broad coalition of academic, library, journalist, citizen
and business groups support the legislation.

The original House bill was HR 2772, the GPO Wide Information Network
for Data Online (GPO WINDO), and the original Senate bill was S. 2813,
the GPO Gateway to Government Act.  A compromise bill, HR 5983 (which
has a number of concessions to House republicans)  was passed by the
House of Representatives on September 29, 1992.

     FMI:
     ====================================================
     fact sheets on S. 2813 and HR 2772,
     copies of S. 2813, HR 5983 or HR 5983, and
     a comparison between HR 5983 and HR 2772 and S 2813,
     can be obtained from:   tap@essential.org

     For additional information, contact the American
     Library Association at:  202/547-4440
     ====================================================

HR 5983 was scheduled for a Senate vote on friday, but it has since been
held off the Senate calendar by anonymous Senate republicans.  The
Senate leadership is trying to find who is holding the bill up, and why.
If the "holds" on the bill aren't resolved in a few days, the bill will
die, deferring action until next year at the earliest.


WHAT YOU CAN DO

If you support this important access broadening legislation, contact the
Senate leadership to urge action on the bill this year.  Since Congress
plans to adjourn this week, telephone calls are the preferred method for
making your views known.  [At this point, a single telephone call to the
right Senate office might make the difference.]

The current bill number and name is:

     HR 5983, the GPO Electronic Information Enhancement Act

Important telephone numbers to call are:

          SENATE

          Republican Leader
          Senator Robert J Dole (KA)         202/224-6521

          Assistant Republican Leader
          Senator Alan K. Simpson            202/224-3424

          Democratic Whip
          Senator Wendell H. Ford            202/224-4343


Any Senate office can be reached at:         202/224-3121

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James Love                         voice:    215/658-0880
Taxpayer Assets Project            fax:      call
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From:         TOM HADY <HADY@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Smoking
              29 Sep 1992 23:11:01 BST from <c.currie@CLUS1.ULCC .AC.UK>

On the history of smoking issue:
I remember in the mid- to late- 1950's listening to a lecture by a
biostatistician at Mayo Clinic, who argued that the then-completed
studies showing smokers did not live as long failed to control for other
factors.  Maybe nonsmokers also took better care of themselves in other
ways.  Much of the physical science work up to then had apparently been
tests by exposing mice to smoke.  I remember a standing joke of the time
was that science had proved conclusively that mice should not smoke.

--TOM HADY, National Economy & History Branch, Economic Research Service
   U. S. Dept. of Agriculture -- Voice: 202-219-0780  Fax: 202-219-0202
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From:         TOM HADY <HADY@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: e-mail symbols (was: CAU$E$ OF WAR$)

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:17:00 EDT <DGPAZ@CLEMSON> said:
>On Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:11:35 -0400 "(Agnes Kruchio)"
><kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA> said:
>
>> Can you give the reference for the smiley article in the WSJ? TNX
>> Agnes
>
>_Hog Street Journal_ buried in stacks of recycling. I'll see if
>I can dig it up.
>Denis Paz
Wall St. J., Sept 15, 1992  Front section, as I remember.

--TOM HADY, National Economy & History Branch, Economic Research Service
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From:         Christopher Currie <c.currie@CLUS1.ULCC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Smoking

>
>
> Greetings,
> I am doing a little research on the history of smoking and latest statistics
> concerning smoking. Here are a couple questions I need answers for:
> 1)How long have the dangers of smoking been known?

Some of them have been known since James I's 'Counterblast to Tobacco'.
The statistical connexion between smoking and lung cancer was established
 only after the Second World War.
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From:         YONI@BROWNCOG.BITNET
Subject:      Smoking

Greetings,
I am doing a little research on the history of smoking and latest statistics
concerning smoking. Here are a couple questions I need answers for:
1)How long have the dangers of smoking been known?
2)When were specific mandates instituted in the U.S?
3)Has the incidence of smoking remained the same or declined since legal
warnings began to appear?
4) What is the argument of the tobacco industry in refutation of "common wisdom"
concerning smoking?

Thanks in advance
Tell me what you come up with.
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From:         bob pasker <bob@HALFDOME.SF.CA.US>
Subject:      ?Q farm hill
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allan writes:
>See also a recent New York Times article by William Broad in the
>Science Times sections (a few weeks back.).

there's was also a fullow up letter to the editor (which i still have;
its dated sept. 2, 1992, but i forget the day it appeared).

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Subject: Diseases, deadbeat dads..
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:01:56 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

	I've two questions, inspired once again by the Columbus-ness that
is circumnavigating so many of us at the present time.   Were Spanish
"dead-beat" dads a problem in the New World?  i.e. I know of much evidence
that Spaniards often mated with//married Native women (for a variety of 
reasons that might be interesting to discuss).  But what was the end result
of those Spanish/native relations?  Did most Spanish fathers claim their
mestizo children?    If so, for what reason(s)?
	Also, being largely ignorant of issues in the Native American 
community today, i'm hoping to erase a tiny part of that ignorance by asking if
modern native americans have built up a "standard" immunity to the smallpox
virus?  As smallpox ravaged the n.a. communities 500 years ago, what are the 
major diseases, if any, that threaten modern native americans?


Thomas Beaudoin
History dept.
Lee's Summit High School
TBEAUDOIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU
From: med@LINGUA.CLTR.UQ.OZ.AU ((Marion Diamond))
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Subject: Re: Pompey's Pirate War, and The Pirates of Cilicia
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:17:04 GMT
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Sorry, the History of the Ancient Mediterranean list is:

ANCIEN-L@ULKYVM.BITNET , or
ANCIEN-L@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU for internet

Marion Diamond
med@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au
From: akerr@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Austin Kerr)
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Subject: Re: Smoking
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:50:14 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

John Burnham is soon to publish a book with NYU Press on the history of evil 
that will in part address smoking issues historically.
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:06:34 CDT
From:         "Samuel C. Pearson" <SI01@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Reverse Columbus

Fifteenth century China witnessed several major naval expeditions
between 1405 and 1433.  Zheng He was the admiral responsible and
visited Southeast Asia, the West coast of India, the Persian Gulf, and
the East coast of Africa.  Strangely, not followed up.  Terminated
abruptly.
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From: mkovacs@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Michael Kovacs)
Subject: Re: CAU$E$ OF WAR$
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:53:11 GMT

In article <01GPG5LYJF008Y7ABS@stthomas.edu> JCFITZHARRIS@STTHOMAS.EDU writes:
>On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:38:00 EDT, dgpaz@clemson.bitnet said:
>>In my view, we have too many prophets and would-be prophets
>>as it is.
>
>I agree.  Unfortunately, I don't know the appropriate symbol for
>tongue-in-cheek.

Unfortunately, the best one can do is a wink ;-), though I have seen this
one used for toungue-in-cheek: :-?.  I don't know, somehow it never really
seemed to work for me... 8-)   (<-- Oh yeah, that's my glasses-wearing smiley)

	Michael

-- 
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From: petty@ike.navo.navy.mil (Jim Petty)
Subject: Pearl River, Mississippi/Muskeagean Indians
Keywords: Looking for any information on the French explorer La Salle, concerning
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:53:42 GMT
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his expeditions up the Pear River, Mississippi.  Additionally, looking for 
information on his reports of the Muskeagean Indians along the Western, Middle,
and Eastern Pearl River.  Thanks in advance.  Jim Petty
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Subject: Re: what is wrong
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:45:56 GMT
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I am having the same problem as George Welling.  Is there a conspiracy against
those outside the U.S. or are we just lucky?
Barton Starr, Hong Kong Baptist College
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From:         JCFITZHARRIS@STTHOMAS.EDU
Subject:      Re: CAU$E$ OF WAR$
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Early on Weds 30 Sept Denis Paz wondered (regarding this frothing):
>...as all this, and much more, happens,
>will we see North America awash in more paranoid
>craziness?
Perhaps we should dig out Bob Heinlien's _Revolt in 2100_ and Nehemiah
Scuder's religious dictatorship.  Was RH really a prophet?

Joe Fitzharris
History, Univ. of St. Thomas
 St Paul, MN 55105
 (612) 647-5667
 JCFitzharris@StThomas.edu
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:39:27 EDT
From:         Lenny <LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: what is wrong

George, the Secret Council for Jewish World Dominion has been censoring
your mail.  They will not let us discuss just anything with you.

Lenny
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From:         Christopher Currie <c.currie@CLUS1.ULCC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Reverse Columbus

Surely a Reverse Columbus trip would be by Amerindians to Europe. The
Chinese voyages to E. Africa are perhaps reverse Da Gama.

It's curious that apart from Da Gama  and the Portuguese the
 really innovative  fifteenth-century voyages (the Chinese, Columbus,
and Tupac Yupanqui's expedition into the Pacific) were made against the
main direction of the world's prevailing winds.

Christopher
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Subject: Re: "Swamping Gun"
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:40:47 GMT
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              22 Sep 1992 01:06:38 GMT from <gardner_c@APOLLO.HP .COM>

Regarding the reply to Andrew Beveridge's question:
>>Do any of you know the meaning of the term "swamping gun," which was
>>supposedly was used during the time of the revolutionary war?
> that:
>It was supposed to be 'as big a log of maple' as I recall.
A colleague remembered the "big as a log of maple" reference, but associated
it with the "Swamp Angel", a huge cannon set up in the swamps outside
Charleston to bombard it in the *Civil* War.  Sounds like the kind of phrase
that might have survived to be used in two wars, though.

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From: webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU (Don W.)
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Subject: Tongue in cheek
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:23:38 GMT
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>I agree.  Unfortunately, I don't know the appropriate symbol for
>tongue-in-cheek.

:/) = nose out of joint?
:?) = fat nose?
How about :-^)

Don W.
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From: petty@ike.navo.navy.mil (Jim Petty)
Subject: Muskeagean Indians
Organization: Naval Oceanographic Office
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:03:48 GMT
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Could someone please sort out this mess for me.  Im currently doing research on a 
specific Indian tribe by the name of Muskeagean.  After reviewing numerous
documents and books, I cannot fine these Indians of Mississippi.  However, I have
found the name Acolapissa, associated with the Muskeagean.  Question, are the
Muskeagean Indians really the Acolapissa?.  Second, in research books I have also
found the Muskogee Indians, located in the same general area; southwest
Mississippi, and southeastern Louisiana, as the Muskeagean Indians. Question, are
the Muskeagean Indians really the Muskogee?.  Last but not least, I have heard
that the Muskeagean Indians are really a band of Choctow Indians that drifted
south into southern Mississippi.  
Please if anyone can shead a little lite on this matter I would be truly thankful
for your effort and support.  Please post as soon as possible.  Thanks in
advance. Im desperate.   



 

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From:         Lenny <LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Smoking
              29 Sep 1992 14:13:00 EST from <YONI@BROWNCOG.BITNET>

What is a "specific mandate" and who issues it?

lenny
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:48:00 EDT
From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      Re: PERFECT MASTER OF THIS AGE and LORD etc. etc.

On Sun, 27 Sep 1992 10:20:44 EDT "Andrew J. Bourgeois"
<HABOURG@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU> {with help from dgpaz@clemson} said:

> Gee, where have I heard this type of stuff before?...                 et
> Sounds much like the game plan outlined by                            y
> Paul someone-or-other; then of course there was a group of occultists ts
> in fin-de-siecle ahem ... who looked to the                           he
> second coming of uh, erm, what is his name?                           ian
> If these folks are messengers-of-God/avatars/saviours, then the Big Guy must
> really be pissed at us, or at the least, He has a rather perverse sense of
> Humour. %)

With apologies to
> Andy Bourgeois .......  HABOURG@BROWNVM
who may not have a perverse sense of humor.
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From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Pompey's Pirate War, and The Pirates of Cilicia

> Could you please post subscription info for the Ancient Med. list?  Thanks.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Rogers            Internet:  rogers@instrumental.com
> Instrumental, Inc.    GEnie:     R.C.ROGERS
> Minneapolis, MN       Phone:     612-920-6188

Yes, please do! I'd also be interested in knowing if a list exists for
medieval history (I know about MEDTEXTL and ANSAXNET). Thanks!

Emily Horning
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UCLA
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From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      Re: CAU$E$ OF WAR$

On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:50:00 CST JCFITZHARRIS@STTHOMAS.EDU said:

> Perhaps we should dig out Bob Heinlien's _Revolt in 2100_ and Nehemiah
> Scuder's religious dictatorship.  Was RH really a prophet?

In my view, we have too many prophets and would-be prophets
as it is.

Denis Paz
dgpaz@clemson.bitnet
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Thank you, Dennis


Agnes
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From:         bob pasker <bob@HALFDOME.SF.CA.US>
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george writes:
>I do hope that this was meant as a joke.

who knows. there is a book out called _the last of the just_ which
is based upon the cabalistic notion that there are, on earth, exactly
32 "just" men (really souls) upon whose shoulders the weight of the
world rest.

>             =                         =                           =
>          ___|_____                 ___|_____                   ___|_____
>         / Nina    __|____         / Pinta   __|____           /Sta.    __|____
>      _|__        /      /     _|__         /      /      _|__  Maria  /      /
>    /    /_______/______/     /    /_______/______/      /    /_______/______/
>   /____/    | ______|__     /____/    | ______|__      /____/    | ______|__
>______|______|_\  o o o | ______|______|_\  o o o |  ______|______|_\  o o o |
>    \  o o o o o o o o  |     \  o o o o o o o o  |      \  o o o o o o o o  |
>     \                 /       \                 /        \                 /
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

nice boats, there, george.

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From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      Re: hoseheads

>  =:-)  User is a hosehead
> Janis Svilpis
> jsvilpis@acs.ucalgary.ca

At last I get it.
That reminds me of London House in ca. 1972, after a shipment
of Foster's arrived.
Denis Paz
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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
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Subject: Home Power Magazine / ISSN 1050-2416
Date: 4 Oct 1992 11:49:39 -0400
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for the archives, a magazine whose back issues can be found on a bulletin
board system.

--Ed

[ Article crossposted from comp.org.eff.talk ]
[ Author was Don.Kulha@f7.n125.z1.fidonet.org ]
[ Posted on 3 Oct 92 01:10:10 GMT ]

     [some material deleted]

Changed it's name a while back to Sonoma Online, SOL!BBS. It's still a
fairly interesting wide-spot in the bitstream and besides serving general
interests has a good collection of Alternative energy files, data and has
the first ten issues of Home Power m agazine online for download as well
as being the home of the moderator of the HOMEPOWR Alternative Energy
EchoConference on FidoNet. I think this is a tremendously useful use of
bandwidth and exciting stuff to have online....but then I would since I'm
the
sysop and aforementioned moderator.

     We changed the system name a while back and kind of toned down the
apparent "Survival" aspect of the system. We feel as strongly as ever that
survival is an important topic but came to realize that our enviornment is
the most important battleground a nd that if we can't save it all other
survival considerations are useless. So we changed the name and the
content to some extent...but still have the same agenda....using the
medium to promote ourmutual survival....DCK

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