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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:01:27 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      IBM Forced Progress

Many of you won't have an idea what I am talking about ...guess that will
make us even :-).

Just received notice from IBM that the are dropping support of VS COBOL
June 30, 1994.  We have started programming COBOL II but we have an
immense (2,000 + ?) inventory of COBOL programs.  So, even though that
is a lot of notice, the conversion must be accomplished while still
maintaining support and new development ...of which we do not have enough
resources already.  But, "company name deleted" to the rescue!!  Handy,
dandy COBOL to COBOL II conversion software!!  Works great!!  Converts
about 70 % of a single program of programs it is able to convert (50%
maybe) ---oh well, the next release will perform much better! .....they
always do!!

What, me cynical?  How could you ever think such!  hmmmm System xxxx
almost worked...but that was a long time ago...and the "bridge"
program to convert XXXX to ZZZZ might have worked ...if we had
only given software company another year to work on it.....

Don, battle-scarred conversion veteran

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:54:25 EDT
From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Amazon Colors
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

sweating it out with a right chested reply.
What's that rolling stones lyric?: ..my love she comes in colors ..

Enter one of the public being transported by wonderful word sequences
in a visible periodic sort of wave.  Life is a.. ... ... ... b..

color, frequency, wavelength, periodicity, Bragg reflection, diffraction

Electrons can usefully be associated with a wavelength.

 [That is one of ways to understand why electrons act in a chunky
 quantum way in their possible energy levels around a nucleus.
 And to explain the periodic diffraction pattern detected when
 electrons go through two slits.]

Though these electron frequencies are not perceived as visible light
(colors) by our eyes, color analogies could be used.


     Posted on 2 Sep 1992 at 18:37:56 by karsten

     ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka) writes:
     > I didn't know electrons came in colors.

     They don't.  But if they did it would be appropriate if the
     T-shirts were the same color.

     --karsten

     (Camouflage for Amazon battles on the net).

Some of the Internet must be fiberoptic so near infrared
would be a good `color' choice.  Would that mean sweatshirts
instead of T shirts?

-don (don't mind my periodic, long wavelength, ravings ... ... ...
      too much beach, had to get this off the right half of my chest)
                                                 (dthorntn@brownvm)
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:21:14 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nimrod
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Maybe there was another Nimrod. I am not up on Middle Eastern stories, but
I remember having heard a poem which alluded to "Nimrod" as the person who
claimed that he himself was Allah.

As for Nimrod being used as "moron", I assumed it was onomatopoeic. Why
"doofus", for instance?

tushar
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:02:42 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Rhubarb Pie
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              92 9:56 pm

> tart....  and a nice color.  The t-shirt should be that color,
> in fact (of rhubarb pie, not of d-b)....

	Hmm.  The All-Amazon Rhubarb Assault Force.
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:13:55 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Pascal
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              23 Aug 92 10:55:00 -0500. <9208231700.AA18179@sics.se>

  Ausbrook babbles about "Pascal's Last Theorem":

  >The question is the following--are there whole number solutions
  >greater than 3, 4, and 5, for
  >X to the nth + Y to the nth = Z to the nth

  Are you sure it isn't "Van Gogh's Last Theorem"?

  The formulation is also faulty. <3,4,5> is one of an infinity of solutions
for n=2.
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 10:08:28 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: I solved my problem!!!!
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Posted on 23 Aug 1992 at 06:42:19 by Natalie Maynor
> one you use, it would not dial.  Since regular Procomm is shareware, there's
> no telling what the settings might be in a copy that floats along to somebody.

Actually, this *was* good advice.  Ditto for the script files that
might have already been there.  It was a clean copy, though.  I do
automatically check all that junk when I get software that's been
floating around.

> I love doing things like writing script files because it makes me feel
> like a programmer.  Reality rears its ugly head from time to time, of

Yeah, but you have to read the manual in order to figure out how to do
it. I took a programming course back in punch card days. I got an A w/
out ever understanding what went on.

> I'm glad it worked and am glad you reported the solution!

It's a coping strategy; I really do want to know how to include this
in the dialing info, and why it's necessary.

Karen
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:51:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ubi Sunt?
Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>

> What happended to Prof. Fabrikant (while we're at it)?  Was that
> Wednesday when he shot his colleagues at Concordia?  There was nothing
> about it in the local papers here...
>
> brad

BRAD BABY!  I just *knew* you were here somewhere.
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:46:41 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Note to Bernard.
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Posted on 29 Aug 1992 at 14:04:20 by Bernard Chien Perro
> Although I appreciate your keeping me up to date, I'm concerned about
> whether I would like the flea-attracting scent.  Would they let me do a
> sniff-test of it before buying?  I realize that I don't wear the trap
                                                                        ar
It's probably returnable; I'll check when I go home.  It costs about
$20, and I do remember the catalog made a point of stressing that only
fleas, not humans, could smell it.

> me.  I'm also not sure about the pet wipes.  Exactly what is involved
> in the wiping process?  I like being brushed but am not sure I would
> like being wiped.

You get Natalie to wipe your fur.  I only recommended both of these
because they are novel approaches to the problem.  Presumably fleas
are a recurring problem w/ you, not to be solved w/ a bomb or mere
soap or a collar?  Anyway, I'll send the ingredients of the wipes
too.  They are "all natural", and Natalie simply wipes them over your
fur.  Unless anyone expresses an interest, I'll do this in private
mail.

Karen
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:46:10 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Modems excite me...

>But if the settings happen to be different in the dial directory, Procomm
>will switch to those different settings when you tell it to dial that
>entry.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

But if dialing itself is the problem, then the settings in the
dial directory shouldn't matter, should they?  (Except for the
presence of a script file.)  The com settings are set globally--
i.e for both manual dial and the directory-- through alt-P
and the setup menu there.

But now I recall that *some* dialing has happened.  Guess it's
not the com ports.  Smells like a lurking script file to me.

-Mka
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:31:38 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      mothers and combat boots
Comments: To: All fellow wordslers <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>

Those who wish to bone up on insults for this community, or who don't
wanna get totally toasted on alt.flame may wanna check out this book....
or even buy it in paperback.

Jordan L. Linfield and Joe Kay.
   Your mother wears army boots: a treasure trove of insults, slurs,
and putdowns.    Avon, 1992?   $9.00

The reviewer mentions inclusion of muckworm, siddity, and zuch


"lively reading -- with a few errors and omissions"

dan   spoiler/definition follows














muckworm        miser

siddity         arrogant

zuch            stool pigeon
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:08:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: RE: RevereWare
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> >entertaining story.  It has to do with pseudodivorce and moving and
> >questions like "I know your mother gave us the RevereWare, but can I keep
>
> What's a psuedomarriage then? What GGS's mother would call <living in sin>?
>
> -abh

Bingo.  Right on the mark!   My mother is famous... has left a legacy
that even she didn't expect....
--ggs
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:28:00 HST
From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Ain't Technology Grand?

>I just really *love* this message.  After Natalie's explanation in
>the previous note, it strikes me that <mem> is referring to our own
>dear Natalie Maynor as the <listserv software>....

Well, it wasn't my intention to refer to nm as listserv software
(the computer software had to first bounce the message to the list
owners before she could dispose of it), but I must say the image
isn't a bad one.  Despite that answering-machine message from months
gone by, despite the comparisons to the overalls woman, I do believe
she is software indeed.  mem
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:40:00 MST
From:         BZ <TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Words-l All-Amazon Task Force
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 >From: Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
 >Subject: Words-l All-Amazon Task Force

 >So guys...Anne said she would design the logo, I said I would
 >get the tshirts made, Rashmi said she would help mail them.
 >Anyone interested in ordering one???  (Note:  this is not a
 >request for money, all I want is an expression of interest,
 >please.)

 >Karen

I am expressing a great amount of interest in ordering an All-Amazon T-shirt.
That is more than a mild interest.  That's an 'I'll write out the check now'
amount of interest.  I would if I knew the cost, anyway.


Betty  (which breast comes off?) Z.
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Date: 1 Sep 92 23:29:17 GMT
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>Well, there's a Sinclair station outside Iowa City--name and
>symbol.

You emerge from the dead to come up with this???  I laughed so
hard, I had to pick myself up off the floor to write this.

Karen
who is occasionally in need of a <sinclair> station, and now knows
where to go...do you just say "fill me up?"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:30:13 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: Ausbrook's lawschool

On Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:54:18 +0200 <torkel@SICS.SE> said:
>  Tony says:
>
>  >Hmmm... - this is in reference to the Japs comment ?  I was thinking about
>  >that and how it seems to me that Jap has lost most or all of its offensive
>  >nature over the years.  It sounds about as offensive to me now as Brit does.
>
>  It appears that North American and Japanese sensibilities are out of
>synch here, judging by an exchange on "Jap" in soc.culture.japan. To
>some Japanese at least, the term is still highly offensive. So people
>who use the word should at least be aware of this.

I can't see myself actually *saying* Jap.  But I don't react to it
the way I would to (say) nigger.  I've no idea if my sensibilities
are in line with most North Americans'.

Tony H.
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:47:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Where is Ruth Who is She?
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> You hate private education, but sent your kid to one the best
> private schools in the nation. I must be missing something. Yes,
> I went to a private school and enjoyed it.
> later
> alec

Wrong!  I didn't send her.  She went on a full scholarship because
they needed to diversify the student body, namely with a Suthun'
white girl....  So, she went, and she loved it, and I am happy that
she had that experience, and it was very good for her.  What I hate
is the situation that creates the need for private schools, and the
negative impact that private education has on public education.  I
believe very strongly that education should be completely free,
from kindergarten through at least the 12th grade.  Is this too
much to ask for?
--ggs (thinking that bayla went bingo on that one)
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:28:37 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z
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              92 7:52 pm

> Where's all the familiar faces?  Did everyone else get bored too?

	Look!  Our favorite sexist is back onlist!  At least, that's
all I can remember you as.  Maybe that was someone else..

	In any case, you're more of a newbie than Doris at the moment
-- we don't truck with none of this seniority shit, and you know it.

Rita
Busy off aquiring a life
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:51:00 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ribbit...ribbit...ribbit...

Graham Mills&Boons:

>>But you have already said it sixteen times with no reaction from me. One
>>should make claims which are either tested and found true or not tested
>>at all.
>
>oh, but the deafening silence speaks volumes.
>
>G

Silence speaks too much. That is to say silence confirms any given theory.
On the other hand, anyone with some experience in emailing also knows that
"!stung!silence!" is rare on the net.

Hence, my advice to you is to think some more about why some letters might
not elicit any response. It will help get some intuition about the net and
its workings, as a bonus.

It's not necesary, of course. Everyone is entitled to his private fantasies.
Besides they have resulted in some very brilliant inventions about my role
in inventing hundreds of personae and situations, my high hacking merit, my
astounding talent in aping, and the sheer pains I take to torture literary
gems out of my mind.

If I get notoriety as a genius, without asking, how can I complain?

tushar
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:24:24 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Rhubarb Pie
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              at Sep 3, 92 9:11 pm

> Strawberries. Rhubarb. A ton of sugar.  I don't think it's
> good for Nico.  You can make stewed or boiled rhubarb too,

	This one isn't for Nico.

	Many Thanks go to Doris for her quick reply with a great
recipe full of hints so that I don't screw it up.

Rita
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:01:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: I love the wording....

>Do I get warned or do I get lessons?
>
>Ken

I hope you also have removed September 25 from your calendar. Of course, that
pretty much negates the effect of leap year, but it is, after all, only a day.

Chris
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:24:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: help

>Ok you creative wordslers - I have a colleague who is thinking
>about joining the list but is a little reluctant. I need you
>to persuade her with some of your weirdest reasons why she
>should join.Send them to her at LIBDAS@SUVM. Her name is Denise.
>                                                   Br Paul

Heck, Natalie, just subscribe her and let her fend for herself.

Chris
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:54:11 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z
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>
> dang...I'd heard this list had gone from boring to quiet, but this
> is ridiculous...
>
> hello.....hello.....hello......echo echo echo

Your timing is just off.  Try us on a typical weekday/night instead of a
weekend.
Doris
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:55:32 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Aspiration
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> I was thinking of something like the "p" in "incorporated".

I aspirate the /p/ in "incorporated."  But now I've forgotten the question.

> >I'm not sure what you're saying.  Morphemes not separated as syllables??
> >What about "dogs"?  Two morphemes, one syllable.
>
> I meant a morpheme spread over adjacent syllables. That was what was in
> question then, not syllables spread over morphemes.

What about "hygiene"?  I've forgotten this question also, of course.
My example is simply a morpheme spread over two syllables -- what it's
supposed to illustrate is what I've forgotten.

> I hear. I am sorry I asked for replies - didn't know what I was doing.

Too late.  Once asked on this list, a question can't be withdrawn.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:42:11 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Private vs. Public Schools
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Posted on 2 Sep 1992 at 20:29:11 by Doris Smith
>She is quite pretty and dainty, and a good representation of
>Scotland.

Just like Graham!;)

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:07:01 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Brother Barbara
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              at Sep 2, 92 12:46 pm

	Although I end up doing a lot of projects and hostessing a lot
of meetings for APO because of Nico's active role in the alumni chapter,
I would never actually join a frat or sorority.  Ick.  One of the few
redeeming features (IMO) of my dear alma mater, ULowell, is that
frats and sororities were officially banned from campus after one
frosh was killed in some stupid hazing incident (I think the frat
was TKE).

Rita
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:24:44 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: FTP???

>> do you get from the e-mail to the "other part" (non-net) of the
>> pc?   You can tell I don't know anything about this.
>
>        Depends on your system, Giggles.  You have to transfer it
>from your login machine to the pc.  Kermit is the usual way of
>doing it.  If you're running ProComm, I think they have an option
>for it.
>
>Rita

Alt-K, then 1 for GET, although I usually have to get kermit
running in server mode on the host first and haven't the foggiest
about how to get an FTP site running in kermit server mode--
unless you type kermit and then server.

Have I confused matters sufficiently?

-Mka
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:01:16 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: San Diego
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              27 Aug 1992 09:33:34 PDT from <pwiebe@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>

On Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:33:34 PDT s mandell said:
>and little kids.  Her reason was:  "I don't like Mondays."
>
>When the song came out, there was a lot of to-do on the local rock
>radio station.  Then ended up deciding to not play the song.
>
   Ok.....but the BEST of the genre isn't that one, but Julie Brown's
"Homecoming Queen's got a gun...."

(yeah, the WHITE JB, the one who also falls in love with an alien, etc.)

dan
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:29:43 EDT
From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English Aspiration
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>about half as much as English.  How do you teach students to do
>half as much aspiration?!  (Classes start Monday, do let me know!)
>
Karen, Greek also has aspirated and unaspirated k,p,t. I ask my kids
to put a hand about an inch in front of their mouths and say "taco."
They will feel the two puffs of air. Then I tell them to practice
saying it - not in class, please - until they no longer feel the
aspirated consonants. I suppose there is a point at which there
would only be half as much . . . The beauty of ancient languages
though is that you can get away with pronouncing aspirated t (say)
like unvoiced Eng /th/, and no one, unless he happens to be
an ancient Greek, will give you a hard time.
Hey Karen, I wish I could be in your class Monday learning a
new language. Japanese sounds like fun :-) Bill
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:32:03 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Greetings from New Computer, btw
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> that matter.  The quality of OS/2 seems quite high so far.  The

Its welcome screen is pretty.  Guess that's all I'll ever see of it.  I
started the installation over again and had the same error message. :-(
My neighbor took the disks home last night to try it on a different
computer to rule out the disks as the problem (maybe).
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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