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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Using DEC RZ56 on SPARCserver
From: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (Jens Petersohn)
Date: 9 Jan 93 10:53:33 EST
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[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.sun.hardware ]
[ Author was Jens Petersohn ]
[ Posted on 9 Jan 93 10:51:32 EST ]

Has anyone ever used a RZ56 SCSI hard drive on a Sun SPARCserver 4/400 before?
Can it be done? Or is the hardware sufficently different that it won't work
with the SD driver? (Or for that mater, are they plug compatible?)

If it is possible, can anyone suggest format parameters for the drive?
I certainly don't seem to be able to squeeze that information out of the
VAX the drive is connected to at the moment.

Also, has anyone ever suceeded matching VAX/VME with SUN/VME?

Thanks in advance,

Jens

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: bblank@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Bryan S. Blank(FIRN))
Subject: Hello, everybody!
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:09:57 GMT


Hello!  My name is Bryan S. Blank.  I am 13 years old, and have been given
an account on a VAX running Ultrix for Internet use.  My problem is that
my machine is an 8088 that runs MS-Loss.  I am writing code in various
languages, and always run out of space.  I have always been amazed by the
Sun workstations, and this must be a crazy question, but does anybody have
an extra Sun<cry,sob,weep>?  I have always love Unix and X11, but my
parents don't have the cash, and Tallahassee, FL is so small that I can't
find somebody with one.  This is definetly a insane post, but remember, by
donating a computer to a child, you make America's future much
brighter<sarcastic grin>.  If you would like to reply, please send e-mail
to BBlank@mailer.cc.fsu.edu.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH!<Yes, I am screaming.> 
Thanks again.

					Sincerely,
						 Bryan S. Blank
From: ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Isn't the Dynamic Load Library automatically linked?
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:21:36 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France

I always thought that the Dynamic Load Library (libdl) was
automatically linked when one did a compile under SunOS 4.1.n.  It
seems to be a problem *only* with SunOS 4.1.2 and 4.1.3.
/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0 is in /etc/ld.so.cache.  On newly installed
machines I get the following, even for simple hello.c:

ld: Undefined symbol
   _dlopen
   _dlclose
   _dlsym

If I explicitly add -ldl then it all goes away.  But shouldn't it work
nevertheless?   The AnswerBook says that -Bdynamic is the default!
Why am I not getting it?

Thanks to all and also Happy New Year

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: beemer@sunnup.MAGDATA.COM (Oscar the Grouch)
Subject: Re: Mailtool question
Keywords: ioctl termio 
Organization: Magnetic Data MN.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:30:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.170234.14906@sarah.albany.edu> jim@thor.albany.edu (SCHLEMMER JAMES A) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a way to have outgoing mailmessages saved
>automatically?  i.e., when I send a mail message to jdoe@podunk.edu,
>I want a copy to be squirreled away somewhere.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
>


The default .mailrc allready does this. The outgoing mail is copied to a file
in your home directory called .record. If you do not have a .mailrc file in
your home directory, you can copy the default version from /usr/lib. The file is
named Mailrc. You must copy it and rename it to .mailrc. If you wish your 
mail saved to a file other than .record just edit the .mailrc file and 
change the line :

set record=~/.record 

replace .record with the desired file name.
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From: jamest@sybase.com (James Terry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: audio redirect?...
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:02:13 GMT
Reply-To: jamest@sybase.com (James Terry)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sybase, Inc.


does anybody know how to redirect output from the sun CD drive to the workstations internal speaker or to a file?

thanks,
jamest@sybase.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: chinson@chin (Chinson Yi)
Subject: Changing olwm font
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:51:54 GMT

I just began using OPENWIN with olwm, and I am trying to change the default 
text font.  I have not found any references to it in the beginner's 
documentation.  Could someone give me some pointers in changing olwm 
default text font?

Thanks in advance
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From: louis@krabat.marco.de (Ju"rgen Fluk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: /usr/5bin/cc: initgroups() bug ?
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:18:58 GMT
Organization: marco GmbH, D-8047 Karlsfeld

Is there a patch for /usr/5bin/cc on SunOS 4.1.2 concerning initgroups() ?

It seems like the routine is setting up an array of "int" and passing this
down to setgroups(), which expects an array of "gid_t" (short) [see TFM].
Result: /bin/id shows one out of two groups set to "0(wheel)".

Example: my setting is
	uid=142(louis) gid=52(entw) groups=52(entw),6(mail),59(verw),99(sw)
Running a programm with initgroups() compiled by /usr/5bin/cc gives
	uid=142(louis) gid=52(entw) groups=0(wheel),52(entw),0(wheel),6(mail)
[groups 52 and 6 appear as 2nd and 4th entry, groups 59 and 99 discarded]

My workaround re-implements initgroups() (scanning /etc/group with
getgrent() and calling setgroups()).

Any comments ?
  louis
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: schneck@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Schneck)
Subject: Re: audio redirect?...
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:51:14 GMT

exodus@vsync.Eng.Sun.COM (Greg Onufer) writes:

>In <27759@sybase.sybase.com> jamest@sybase.com (James Terry) writes:
>>does anybody know how to redirect output from the sun CD drive to the
>>workstations internal speaker or to a file?

>Plug a mini-stereo<->mini-stereo cable from the headphone jack of the
>cd-player to the microphone jack of the SparcStation.  Use of an
>impedance matcher (Radio Shack is one source, there must be others) is
>recommended but you can probably get by with carefully setting the
>volume of the cd-player low enough so the audio sounds fine.  Then set
>the monitor volume (via audiotool or other means) and you can listen to
>the audio without burning any CPU cycles (the monitor functionality
>exists entirely in the codec).  You can also record the input
>as you would normally.

This, of course, gives you 8-bit 8kHz mono output from a 16bit 44kHz
stereo source ... hmpf.

Some of the newer CD-ROM drives are supposed to allow direct reading
of the digital audio data.  I havn't yet seen such a beast, though ...

\Bernhard.
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From: montnaro@ausable.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: -Bstatic required with -pg - why?
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: montanaro@ausable.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Distribution: comp
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development, Schenectady, NY


Is there some technical reason that the prof/gprof stuff on Suns (we are
running 4.1.2) requires static linkage, or did somebody at Sun just get
lazy? 

Thx,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.misc
From: west@chance.tsd.itg.ti.com (Roger West)
Subject: Unresolved references in dynamically loaded shared library (SunOS 4.1.3)
Organization: Texas Instruments, Speech Mushrooms.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 07:54:48 GMT


Hello,

I am involved in developing an application which requires dynamically loading
and executing functions from shared libraries which don't necessarily exist at
the time the application driver itself is linked.  When these functions in turn
have calls to functions in other shared libraries, ld.so successfully resolves
these references as long their definitions reside in libraries which were
scanned by ld at the time the application driver was linked (system libraries,
for example).

The problem I have run into is that some of these function definitions reside
in other shared libraries which have also been dynamically loaded.  In this
case (unless the references and the definition reside in the same library),
ld.so has no knowledge of these dynamically loaded libraries and therefore
cannot search them.

Is there a way to augment this list of dynamic dependencies at run time so that
the search performed by ld.so can be extended to these dynamically loaded
libraries?  Investigation of the data structures defined in /usr/include/link.h
seems to indicate that there is indeed a way this can be done, if the the
programmer has knowledge of the dynamic linking mechanism beyond what is
available from the Sun manuals.

I would be grateful for any comments or pointers to related material.


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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Customers and Vendors (Was sun and customers)
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:48:14 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>However, SPARC based systems were much faster; customers preferred them 10 or 20
>to 1.

I have to believe that this was deliberate:  The 3/80 runs at a whopping 20mhz,
and faster chips were widely available.

>The 68040 might have made a difference had it been available;

Just using a faster 68030 would have made a difference.  The 3/80 ended up
being comparable to the 3/60 by way of using a low clock rate.

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From: tony@dunes.hac.com (Tony Reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: mailtool help
Keywords: mailtool
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:23:03 GMT
Distribution: usa


I have a question about the openwin version 3 mailtool. 
As I use it and type messages it does not seem to word wrap. When it comes to the end of the window, it just breaks apart the word and keeps the whole message as one long line. Of course when others get my mail, it looks like a very long sentence. How do I turn on or change word wrap in the mail tool?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: don@doug.med.utah.edu (Don Baune 581-6088 MIRL)
Subject: Spider for Dos Machine
Originator: don@doug
Organization: University of Utah, Dept. of Radiology
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 17:04:44 GMT

all,

Over teh last holidays my mom has been captured by the spider
program that comes in the openwindows demo and wonders if
it is available for the Dos machine that she owns.  If anybody
is aware of this plese drop me a note.

thanks
-don
don@doug.med.utah.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Subject: Problem with Postscript cartridge in HP LaserJet II
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 20:19:42 GMT

We have a Hp LaserJet II with an Adobe Postscript cartridge.  
We just moved this from a PC to be the system printer on an SGI
The SGI is running 4.0.5 and the BSD lpr software.  (Thanks to SGI for
pointing out how to start the bsdlpr software.)

A file created in Microsoft Word and uploaded to the SGI as a
Postscript file prints fine.  However, any Postscript file created
from UNIX applications such as a2ps, FrameMaker, and Xprism2 will not
print.  The printer shows data being received (the LED flashes and the
display shows processing data) but not paper ever comes out.

Has anyone seen this before?  Suggestions?  I have included the
beginning part of two files below.  The first one from Microsoft Word,
will produce hardcopy.  The second, from a2ps, will not. (I have
routinely printed Postscript files from all these sources on a
different Postscript printer.)

 - part of the first file header that prints.
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%Creator: Windows PSCRIPT
%%Title: Microsoft Word - BENCH.DOC
%%BoundingBox: 18 9 593 784
%%DocumentNeededResources: (atend)
%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
%%Pages: (atend)
%%BeginResource: procset Win35Dict 3 1
%! a2ps 3.0

- part of second file header - doesn't print
/$a2psdict 100 dict def
$a2psdict begin
% Initialize page description variables.
/inch {72 mul} bind def
/landscape true def
/twinpage true def
/sheetheight 11 inch def
/sheetwidth 8.5 inch def
/margin 1.2 inch def
/noborder false def
/noheader false def
/headersize 0.22 inch def
/bodyfontsize 6.8 def
/lines 73 def
/columns 85 def
/date (Jan  4 1993 10:05:41) def
%!  PostScript Source Code
%
%  File: imag:/users/local/a2ps/header.ps
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From: chris@quay.ie (Christopher Davey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: (1) Sun ANSI C vs gcc (2) what is ansi_fflush?
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:02:46 GMT
Organization: Quay Financial Software

We are trying to compile and link a bunch of programs that are 
supposed to be compiled using the Sun ANSI C compiler.  However,
we do not have this, and gcc seems to work fine.  ld gave one unresoved
reference, ___ansi_fflush, and declaring a function __ansi_fflush(){}; 
solved that!  At the moment, the program is working partially ( it 
requires another program, which we are in the process of configuring
at the moment). 

Are there major problems ahead if we try using gcc instead of Sun's ANSI
C compiler ?  Are there ansi libraries that we need to get hold of ?


Any information / opinions / experiences welcomed...

Chris  

gcc - 2.2.2
SunOs 4.1.3

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: pjp@sloth.mlb.semi.harris.com (Pat J. Pinchera)
Subject: Re: Serial Commmunication between a Sun IPC and 68000
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:45:56 GMT
Organization: Interface & Control Systems, Inc., Melbourne FL

In article <1993Jan8.161125.288@mlb.semi.harris.com> pjp@sloth.mlb.semi.harris.com (I) wrote:
>In article <1993Jan7.223609.16598@mlb.semi.harris.com> pjp@sloth.mlb.semi.harris.com (I) wrote:

[stuff deleted]
>
>OK, so how can I make the read happen without those nasty little <NL>'s?
>

Looking through the man page of 'termio', there's a ICANON flag on the
local flags that indicates Canonical Input Processing. If this is set
(which it is by default, I did NOT change it), then a read will NOT take
place until a <NL> is seen. So if you add to my original posting the
local flag:
			localFlag:	ECHO ISIG
I get the behaviour I want.

Thanks to Guy who sent me e-mail about 10 minutes after I figured this
out. This is a great resource for information!!

Pat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: smg@coconut.cis.ufl.edu (Scot M. Gardner)
Subject: Problems running cslip on Sun (4.1.3)
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 23:17:09 GMT


Sorry if this has been asked before.

I have been running slip-4.1 on my Sun for about a month. 
Recently I saw a cslip "patch". I made all the "changes"
asked of me and installed the new kernel and binaries. The 
problem is that when I run slip-attach I get the following
error:

Jan  9 18:02:52 nidhogg slip-attach[861]: ioctl (I_PUSH) str_ip: Invalid argument

Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or how to fix this?

Here is the system info:
nidhogg# uname -a
SunOS nidhogg 4.1.3 2 sun4c

Please reply to smg@cis.ufl.edu.

Thanks in advance!!
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Customers and Vendors (Was sun and customers)
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:39:52 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>My memory is somewhat different.  I believe that the Sun 4/1X0 line came
>out about the same time as the 3/80.  There's no question the 4/110 was
>faster than the 3/80, but it cost a lot more too.

Mine's different yet.  I took delivery of a 4/110 in 1988, and didn't see
a 3/80 until late 89 or 90.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: kelson@ais.org (David Lewis)
Subject: Sun Sparc 10 w/ autocad and x stations
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:10:40 GMT



  We are thinking about making a move to UNIX, the biggest issue is our
CAD performance.  We are running Autocad R12 here.  A lot of 'people'
have said that the new Sparc 10's dont have enough horse power to 
hang many Xterminals off of it and run Autocad with any deceant speed.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?  The only real access I have for
Autocad on X are through the Automotive manufacturers around here and
they all run HP for the most part.

  Thanks
   --David

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From: delman@mipg.upenn.edu (Delman Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing MD21 and ESDI
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:22:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.misc
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, USA.
In-reply-to: poirot@conan.jsc.nasa.gov's message of 22 Dec 92 18:10:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.181010.13790@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> poirot@conan.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel Poirot) writes:

   I seem to recall seeing a post some time back that discribed the
   jumpers and switch settings for the ACB4000 and the EM21.  Does anyone
   out there still have a copy?  

   We are trying to hook up both of these adapters and I don't remember
   what goes where!

I received some info on how to set the SCSI ID on ACB4000 and MD21. 

For the ACB4000, there is a set of 8 jumpers. Jumper AB for SCSI ID of
1; with AB open the SCSI ID is 0. Apparently one can only set ID of 0
and 1.

For the MD21, the ID is set by the DIP switches at the right front of
the board. First three switches are the address w low order bit at the
front

I still can't get my ACB4000 to work with a SCSI controller (Future
Domain) on my PC. I don't have a MD-21.

Hope this helps --- Delman.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: joseph@physunc.phy.uc.edu (Joseph Pecquet)
Subject: iscreen compile
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.misc
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:23:25 GMT

I am trying to compile iscreen (screen-3.2a) for a SS2 under 4.1.3, and
ld complains about an undefined symbol _getloadavg which I can't find
any reference to in the man pages.  When I comment out this function
(setting load = 0 instead) iscreen appears to run, but I am not sufficiently
familiar with it to know if _everything_ is working properly.  Is there
something I should be doing to get this compiling correctly?  Possibly
relevent: I get three illegal use of pointers warnings when compiling
screen.c.  Thanks for any help you can provide.
-joseph
joseph@physunc.phy.uc.edu
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: -Bstatic required with -pg - why?
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:37:14 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Is there some technical reason that the prof/gprof stuff on Suns (we are
>running 4.1.2) requires static linkage, or did somebody at Sun just get
>lazy? 

Yes. :-)

The main headache with doing "prof"-style on programs linked with shared
libraries is that, if you want to profile the library code, you either
need a *huge* profiling buffer, to cover the large non-contiguous
address space, or you need a version of the code that implements
"profil()" that supports multiple profiling buffers.

Whether one considers it laziness on Sun's part that they didn't do any
of that, and didn't implement a different profiling scheme that doesn't
just use the PC as an index into a (range of) buffer(s), and didn't just
provide startup code and say "sorry, we don't profile shared library
code", probably depends on who's doing the considering.
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Is Sun losing touch with its customers?
Date: 1 Jan 93 06:00:24 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>5bin and 5lib.  It really isn't that hard to put 5bin first in your
>path, so you get the SysV behaviour by default.

Oh boy.  Avoidance of SysV behavior is one reason I built the GNU fileutils
on HP's.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: hess@swt7.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hauke Hess)
Subject: Where to find sound apps?
Summary: ftp?
Keywords: sound, multimedia etc.
Organization: University of Hamburg, FRG
Distribution: comp
Date:  8 Jan 93 15:32:54 GMT

Hi,

since the new Sun SPARC WOrkstations arrived, I am looking for
applications that exploit the new sound capabilities of the 
workstations. I`m looking for sounds to be played, but also
for tracks (15 or 32) that could be played by the sun.

Are there ftp sites that hold those things?

Hauke

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc