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From: Frank Hoffmann <fh.pad@sni.de>
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: FAQ? ELM2.4pl3 and 2nd From: line ...
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:55:21 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG, Paderborn, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: fam168.ap.pdb.sni.de
Keywords: From: 2.4pl3 ELM

Hi world!

I hope this isn't a FAQ ... so flame off:-)

On my SCO ODT 1.1 system is receive the following headers :

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From fam168.uucp!sdcc10.ucsd.edu.smtp!cs161fhb Tue Nov 10 00:24:46 1992
Received: from fam168.UUCP by fam168.ap.pdb.sni.de
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Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
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And ... if i try to reply to mail ELM2.4pl3 takes the very first 'From'
line. (Even if this doesn't have a :).

Is there any configuration parameter i miss, with which i can force ELM to
take the correct 'From:' line ?

Thanx in advance.

frank

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: ssmith@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Stephen Smith)
Subject: Re: List of "Local Users?" (wish list)
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:28:07 GMT

syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein) writes:

>twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>That's not a bad idea.  Quite a number of people have suggested to me
>>in e-mail that the local signature be used with aliases -- I thought
>>it was a bad idea, since there are a number of people for whom I have
>>aliases but don't really know personally.  However, I think this would
>>work pretty well.  Apologies to those who suggested *exactly* this and
>>who I misunderstood. :-)

>>What would the Elm Development Group think of a "local/remote" field
>>in aliases.text?
>Current Answer: Oft suggested, difficult to impliment.

>Its easy to impliment 80% of this, and difficult to finish the last 20%

>Currently 2.x of Elm does not keep track that an address in a To: or CC:
>is an alias.  Thus each address would have to be searched at signature
>add time against all the aliases.

[....deleted]

>In the 80% case, joe user's e-mail address always looks the same.
>In the remaing 20% it can differ.

>The 20%: I am syd@dsi.com, syd@dsinc.dsi.com, syd@dsiss2.dsi.com
>and a few others, but they are all me.  Now If the alias is to
>syd@dsi.com, then matching syd@dsinc.dsi.com to that is problematic.

I have a similar situation to Syd's. It would seem that the situation 
might be resolved by a (user-level) elmrc "domainnamematch" variable such 
that if domainnamematch is a substring of the fully qualified hostname,
the machine would be considered local. While giving less than the full 
control planned in 3.0, its more practical than local == originating host 
in this day of "multi-homed" users.

I trust this isn't *too* naive and perhaps doable at a patchlevel until
we have 3.x in our hands. 

BTW: I've not peeked into the code (no time). 

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: corneliu@cs.curtin.edu.au (Nigel Cornelius)
Subject: Mailer not inserting .sig
Summary: elm not inserting .sig from within nn
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:12:45 GMT


I hope I've got the group right. (it does have something to do with mail 
anyway)

ok. I seem to be having a problem whenever I try to send mail from within
nn. 

Before anyone decides to flame me telling me to elm from outside nn, there
have been many instances of people's addresses not appearing in the text.

Any help with regards to my .sig not appearing would be greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance,
Nigel
(corneliu@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au)
From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: pager for small mail
Keywords: 2.4 less
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:22:27 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

In article <1992Nov7.154248.2248@wubios.wustl.edu> phil@wubios.wustl.edu (J. Philip Miller) writes:

>well this helps for the very specific "quick fix" but less does much more,
>which is why we use it in the first place!  For example we display a
>customized "help line" at the end, users use 'r' to redraw the screen when it
>has been "messed up" with new mail, the file can be "logged", a shell may be
>involked......By the time that you start adding all of these (and other)
>features you do not have an easy fix.

Well, the "real" fix would be to build the portions of less that you
need into the ELM builtin pager (I'd settle for paging backwards). I
rarely use an external pager because you lose the ability to recognize
ELM's single-key commands that the builtin pager understands (r!CXphdni are
the most useful).  For example I rarely know if I want to reply to a
message until I've seen the first screen of it - likewise for copying,
viewing headers, deleting, etc., but I can often decide before going
to the second screen so starting an external pager is a waste of time
and keystrokes.  If I want the full power of less I can always pipe the
message to it, but the ideal solution would be to add some of the additional
features of less into elm so you don't have to give up the internal elm
functions (which, by the way, include most of what you listed except for
the custom help line which would probably be a quick source hack).

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: brianmck@bcrka368.bnr.ca (Brian McKinnon 1615274)
Subject: Re: elm-2.4 Crashes on "send" 
Reply-To: brianmck@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:46:40 GMT


The problem your experiencing is one I had as well. It is another
Apollo'ism.

In file lib/getarpdate.c, you must change the 'timezone()' call to
'_bky_timezone()'. I have included the changed function below. By the
way, Martin J. Laubach first pointed this out, I'm just repeating it.


In file lib/getarpdate.c:

.....
   code deleted
             .....

#if defined(BSD) && !defined(_POSIX_SOURCE)
# ifdef apollo
    char *_bky_timezone();
# else
    char *timezone();
# endif
#else
  extern char *tzname[];
#endif

char *
get_arpa_date()
{
.....
   code deleted
             .....

 
        sprintf(buffer, "%s, %d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d %s%02d%02d (%s)",
          arpa_dayname[the_time->tm_wday],
          the_time->tm_mday,
          arpa_monname[the_time->tm_mon], the_time->tm_year,
          the_time->tm_hour, the_time->tm_min, the_time->tm_sec,
          tzsign, tzmin / 60, tzmin % 60,
#ifdef BSD
#ifdef TZ_MINUTESWEST
# ifdef GOULD_NP1
          the_time->tm_zone);
# else
#   ifdef apollo
          _bky_timezone(time_zone.tz_minuteswest, the_time->tm_isdst));
#   else
          timezone(time_zone.tz_minuteswest, the_time->tm_isdst));
#   endif
# endif
#else
#   ifdef apollo
          _bky_timezone(loc_time.timezone, the_time->tm_isdst));
#   else
          timezone(loc_time.timezone, the_time->tm_isdst));
#   endif
#endif
#else
          tzname[the_time->tm_isdst]);
#endif

        return( (char *) buffer);
}


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Bell-Northern Research,                  Fax:   (613) 763-7241
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada                  email: brianmck@bnr.ca

"The opinions expressed in the preceding program do not reflect
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Newsgroups: netcom.general,comp.mail.elm
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Subject: Re: Setting Reply-To: In elm?
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:28:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.140213.9851@DSI.COM> syd@DSI.COM writes:
|westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
|>>Additional header lines can be put into the file "$HOME/.elm/elmheaders"
|>>("elmheaders" for short).  They will be appended to your outgoing mail.
|>Yes, this works in a way, but it points to another problem: when you put
|>headers into elmheaders, these do *not* appear when you select the
|>'h'eader option while interactively creating mail.  Is this a bug or a
|>"feature"?  Is there some option I can set in elmrc so that the headers
|>in elmheaders will be seen, and can be changed, at the time I send each
|>piece of mail?
|This is not a bug or a feature, just the way Elm works.  As Dave implimented
|Elm, the elmheaders file is just blindly copied to the end of the header
|section.
|
|Elm 2.x does not have an option that lets you see and edit the elmheaders
|file on a message by message basis.


	There's a problem with this approach - at the
	end of editing and outgoing mail item, it's
	possible to edit the headers of the outgoing
	email message.  Elm should be presenting the
	relevant header lines from the elmheader file
	in the appropriate slots - so if i have a
	default "Reply-To: " header I should see it
	in the "h" menu's display.


	As it stands now, 2 "Reply-To: " headers end
	up in the message instead.


	An allied problem is that (at least until 2.3.11)
	the "Reply-To: " line isn't resolved the way the
	"Cc: " line is when edited in the "h" menu.  It
	would be nice to have that line treated the same
	as the "To: " & "Cc: " headers.


Cheers,
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Larry Broda)
Subject: ELM problem after applying PL4-8 to 2.4: Can't get into mailbox!!!
Summary: Some can't get into new mail mailbox
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:32:31 GMT
Keywords: PL8 error 

After applying patch levels 4 through 8 to ELM 2.4 today on our Sun
4.470, SunOS 4.1.2, some users began getting this error on trying to
enter their primary Elm mailbox:


Reading in /var/spool/mail/<username-deleted>, message: 328
newmbox - length of mbox. != spool mailbox length!!

Write to temp file failed, exiting leaving mailbox intact!


This does not happen with other folders, and not to everybody.

I had to rush to the back tapes and restore my old executables for
2.4PL3 to avoid being lynched.  Since I applied patches 4 through 8 at
the same time (in order), I don't know which one had the bug, though
I'll go back and see which ones might be candidates.  Has anybody else
encountered this?  What gives?  After the restore I did run both
versions to confirm that only the PL8 version gave the error, not PL3.

Thanks in advance

--
Larry Broda
Systems Administration
Department of Psychology,
University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana
email: lbroda@s.psych.uiuc.edu


Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: k2@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger)
Subject: Re: ELM 2.4PL6 - Big problem! Changing permissions on /usr/mail
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:02:27 GMT

derwin@mach2.wlu.ca (Daryl Erwin) writes:

>In article <k2.721142571@woodstock> k2@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger) writes:
>>apardon@rc1.vub.ac.be (Antoon Pardon) writes:
>>
>>>We have had similar problems here. The problem however was not elm
>>>but a buggy NFS. The problems was that when a file was opened with
>>>the CREAT flag over NFS and you where the owner of the file the group of
>>>the file was changed to the gid of the process even if the file already 
>>>existed. As a workaround (This works only on bsd systems I think) we
>>>set the setgid bit on the spooldirectory to indicate that created files
>>>should get the gid of the spool instead that of the process. It works
>>>for the moment.
>>
>>Thanks for that tip, I did have sometimes similar problems, and could
>>not track it down, but this I think would help. (At least on my
>>EP/IX box, setgid works).

>In simple language :-) how is this done?

chmod g+s /usr/mail

But this works only on systems with some BSD semantics. You could try it out,
su to root, create a directory, use chgrp to change the group of the directory
to another group, chmod g+s directory, create some file in the directory.
If this file has the group which root usually creates (normally "other"),
then setgid on directories didn't work. Otherwise the file must have the 
same group as the parent directory.

Sincerely,
Klaus


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: earl@rtsg.mot.com (Brent R. Earl)
Subject: how to filter missing subject?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:42:26 GMT

I was wondering if there was any way to match a mail which has no
subject line. I am trying to filter a message which is from me, to
me, which has no subject line.  (automailed tool warning).

elm 2.4pl6 sun3/80 sunos 4.0.3.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Subject: Re: Misplaced sendmail program. How do I configure new place?
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:47:59 GMT

totic@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Alex Totic) writes:
>I have switched to elm recently, and it is great. The only problem is that I
>cannot use it for mailing out, or replying to mail because my sendmail program
>is in /usr/lib/sendmail, and elm expects it to be in /etc/sendmail.
>I've tried to fix this by setting mailer to right path in elmrc,
>set mailer = /usr/lib/sendmail
>but it does not work. Elm complains that it does not understand the line,
>and mailer remains /etc/sendmail.
>Does anyone know which variable to set , and in which file for this to work 
>properly?
None, its not a user settable option, its only settable in the configure
(compile time).  If its that wrong, someone compiled it wrong on your system.
-- 
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Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,1994
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: fred@ivhs.mot.com (Fred Brunner)
Subject: Re: ELM 2.4PL6 - Big problem! Changing permissions on /usr/mail
Organization: Motorola IVHS Group - Northbrook IL
Date:  6 Nov 92 16:34:54 GMT

I have seen this problem under A/UX 3.0, linked against -lbsd
--lposix, compiled with gcc 2.2.1.

-FB
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From: wsadkin@bbn.com (Will Sadkin)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: ELM 2.3 Configure question
Date: 12 Nov 1992 20:34:36 GMT
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: daedalus.bbn.com
Keywords: spool


-- 
Our site is uses MMDF as its mail transport agent.  It deposits
mail into the user's ~/mailbox directory.

One of the questions Configure asks is:
 Where is yet-to-be-read mail spooled? [/usr/spool/mail/]

When I specify ~/mailbox, and re-run Configure, I get:
 Where is yet-to-be-read mail spooled? [/d4m/wsadkin/mailbox]

(ie. it's expanding the ~ for me personally, and not using the generic
"home directory".)

I can't change the fact that all mail is not deposited in one central
directory. 

What do I do?

/Will
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wsadkin@bbn.com            |  never trace what you can cut out and paste down!"
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: richard@raet-sh.UUCP (Richard van Denzel)
Subject: Looking for Patch #6
Organization: RAET Industrie & Handel, Utrecht
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:24:32 GMT

Hello netlanders,

Our news-system seems to have missed the official patch #6 (I already have
#7 and #8).
Is there someone willing to mail me Patch #6?

Thanx in advance,

Richard.
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: norstan@oar.net (Steve Frazier)
Subject: ELM 2.4 PL5 autocopy
Keywords: ELM 2.4 PL5
Organization: Ohio Academic Resources Network
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:36:05 GMT

In the elmrc file there is a parameter that is called autocopy
"automatically copies message into reply buffger"

If I have this set to autocopy=OFF

should ELM ask me when I am replying to a message if I ~want~ to copy
the message into the buffer?  If it is set to ON, should it automatically
be there and not ask me?

This may be the wrong parameter, but it makes no difference if I set it
to ON or OFF, the message is *ALWAYS* copied into the buffer whether I
want to include it or not, can someone tell me how to get the question
"copy message" when I do a reply?

Thanks.

Steve

 


Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm,news.answers
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT)
Subject: Re: pager for small mail
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:12:18 GMT
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657
Keywords: 2.4 less

phil@wubios.wustl.edu (J. Philip Miller) wrote in
<1992Nov5.012957.13923@wubios.wustl.edu>:

| We configure elm to use less as the pager, and have many users whose only use
| of the system is for mail.  For them to become sophisticated to notice that
| depending on the bottom line on their display they either have to type q or i
| depending on what they see will be a major challenge.

What's the problem?  q works as well as i to get from Elm's prompt-after-pager
to the index screen.  So the question is not whether to use q and then i or i
alone but whether to use qq or q.  So on a longer letter, where one q doesn't
get you back to the index screen, press q again.

That should not be a major challenge for even the greenest user.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: choi@leland.Stanford.EDU (keeyoung choi)
Subject: Help needed : How not to include long list of addresses?
Keywords: alias
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 03:27:00 GMT

Hi

 I have a alias of list of eight addresses. When someone get my mail, the list
of addresses in the header is quite annoying. Is there anybody who knows
how to exclude this list of addresses in the header. I use elm on a Sparc 
machine. I don't know the version of the elm. Thanks in advance. Bye.

- keeyoung



Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson)
Subject: Re: Mail-server
Reply-To: peterson@csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments Computer Science Lab
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:27:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.164316.1457@scott.skidmore.edu>, mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:
|> The vacation program would work except that it would reply to every
|> letter I receive.  I only want it to reply to letters containing
|> certain subjects...
|> does anyone know how this can be accomplished?

  I use the deliver package to carry out this sort of activity, among
others.  The procmail package offers similar functionality.

  Archie reports the following sites, among others, offer deliver and
procmail. 

Host wuarchive.wustl.edu

    Location: /usenet/comp.sources.unix/volume20
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Feb  8 1991  deliver2.0
    Location: /usenet/comp.sources.unix/volume23
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Feb  8 1991  deliver2.0pch
    Location: /usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume31
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jul 21 02:09  procmail

Host novell.com

    Location: /usenet/comp.sources.unix/volume20
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Sep  3 11:26  deliver2.0
    Location: /usenet/comp.sources.unix/volume23
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Sep  3 13:34  deliver2.0pch
    Location: /usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume31
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Sep  9 14:14  procmail

    Bob

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: peter@merlin.acadiau.ca (Peter Steele)
Subject: pico question
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:26:04 GMT

This probably isn't the best place for this, but this is the only
newsgroup I've even seen anyone talk about pico, so at least some
of you will know what I'm talking about. Does anyone know if pico
has some undocumented search&replace command. It seems to have a
basic find command, but not the latter, at least there doesn't
seem to be one described anywhere. This is unfortunate; I've tried
pico and it seems to be a good choice for a basic elm editor, however,
without a search/replace command, I'd be hard-pressed to recommend
it...
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: piggy@noether.cc.utas.edu.au (La Monte Yarroll)
Subject: Re: elm wish list
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:19:24 GMT

les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:

>Personally, I'd like to have the choice of including the header lines
>in the edit buffer (like rn's 'R' command gives you) even if this
>turns off the ability to use ELM's header editor.  People using rn
>or trn for news would already be used to the concept.

Is there genuinely some advantage to ELM's header editor?  I generally
find it more of a hassle than header lines directly in the buffer, ala
MH, rn, nn....

In particular, ELM's header editor makes it really difficult to copy
anything from the body of a message to the headers.
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