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From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The Jamie/Siryn thing
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:15:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Oct9.165854.24787@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes:
>>
>>Well, here's my Multiple Man question: Is his only power the ability to
>>make duplicates? If so, then how come none of the duplicates ever pass
>>out when someone hits them. I mean, Cannonball runs into him and all
>>that happens is more Jamies..what if Rictor hits him? Even more Jamies..
>>It seems like either he is way too powerful i.e. he is "well nigh
>>invulnerable" or the writers just ignore that some of these blows would
>>be knocking some of the dupes out.
>>
	Well, hardly invulnerable.  Madrox may be able to absorb and 
redristribute KINETIC energy, but I doubt the same goes for other sorts
of energy.  Now get Havoc REAL mad....



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From: jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Amanda Sefton
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:38:11 GMT
Reply-To: jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf)
Organization: Columbia University

Speaking of nonsequiturs...
Can anybody explain to me what happened to Amanda Sefton between the time she
shot herself and appeared on Muir Island for the Shadow King Saga?  Whatever
happened to her was never really explained.

Thanx,

Josh

BTW...if Cable is the son of Scott and Madelyne (and he is), that opens up a
slew of fun fun fun possibilities...like CablePhoenix! Wheee!
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: 2099 titles and X
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:16:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Bw4s9J.BB1@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.203316.607@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>>In article <SS.92Oct14142921@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>>I thought you had to be born with the powers to be considered a
>>>mutant.
>>
>>Obscure Trivia Lad says that you do.  Spider-Man (both the real one
>>and the one from 2099) are altered humans, not mutants.  You
>>could possibly call them mutates (Obscure Trivia Lad isn't real
>>sure about the Marvel stand, if any, on this term), but they
>>are not mutants.
>
>The Official, Mark-Gruenwald-Set-In-Stone Marvel Policy on Mutants vs.
>Mutates, at least as presented in the variations of the OHOTMU and some
>interviews I've read, is that a mutant is a person born with the power,
>while a mutate is a person who had the genetic ability to respond favorably
>to some form of outside, mutating force. The distinction between altered
>human, mutant, etc., is largely one for TSR's Marvel RPG, which, while nice
>in its own way, isn't Marvel Canon. For instance, they have Rogue listed as
>speaking Russian but not French.

So, basically, what you're saying is that Obscure Trivia Lad was
correct in his distinctions, right?  Hmmm... Obscure Trivia Lad
also thinks that the definition of mutate you used sounds vaguely
similiar to the "metagene" in DC.  Oh, well.

Oh, and, Obscure Trivia Lad did get the "altered human" term from
the MSH RPG.  Obscure Trivia Lad thought it was such a fitting
term, that Obscure Trivia Lad decided to use it.  Doesn't make
much of a difference, Obscure Trivia Lad supposes.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto)
Subject: Re: Sinister
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:08:23 GMT

|> B O I N G !
|>
|> Geez, now this is an interesting idea...thanks for letting me see the
|> connection! Only one problem with this theory...I thought that in X-Song #3,
|> the Beast and Moira said that although the technovirus is like the Magus',
|> it is always changing...so how would Warlock/Douglock be able to cure Prof. X
?

You seem to forget that Doug already dismantled a techno-organic creature.
He was the one, with the help of Warlock, that "read" the language of Magnus'
virus and got rid of it. Maybe Sinister is looking for Doug to do the same
with the Professor's? That is, if the genentic material IS Doug's.
					Tony
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:50:26 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.xbooks.

I wonder how this fits in with the mutant history/future we all know and
love from Days of Future Past/Present?  Will this occur in Bishop's time
or after he left and joined the X-Men?

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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: APOCALYPSE'S PAST
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:30:55 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

sw3r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Kelly Woyicki) writes:

>*****By the way, are THE TWELVE related to the Externals?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!!!!!

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
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From: semper@cwis.unomaha.edu (Bil Foster Jr.)
Subject: Re: The X-Men Adventures
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:22:40 GMT

BUT I HAVE SEEN FOOTAGE


Bily J

Future X-Men illustrator, if I can help it
-- 
Semper

Cause I'm always......

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From: cs922096@ariel.yorku.ca (JOSE J. MONTANO)
Subject: Advice on Mail-Order Subscription Services
Originator: cs922096@a03.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:01:28 GMT



      I posted this on the other comic book newsgroups, but I don't think they got posted.  Oh well....  I am an X-MEN collector, but have always gotten my isues from the local comic shop, like most people.  I would however, like to know the pitfalls and advantages of mail-order subscribing.  Can anyone give me some advice?  Which is best?  Who has the largest selection to choose from each month?  Thanks for any help anyone gives....




|-)

Joe
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Storm's New Power?
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:57:24 MDT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.xbooks  
Organization: Utah State University

In article <Bvtn9t.9K6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rissab@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Larissa Bemis) writes:
> 	Got a question for all you comic book people.  I read but don't
> collect.  Anyway....  In X-tinction Agenda (towards the end) Genegineer
> "gives" Storm the ability to be catalyst to restoring the X-men's abilities
> (if I understand completely that is)  after Wipeout gets rid of them.
> I don't recall if Wipeout died or not.  Any way, my question is this:
> 	Can Storm now continually be catalyst (since it's in her genetic
> 	structure now) the next time another Wipeout equivalent zaps the 
> 	X-men???
> I'm really curious to see what anyone has to say regarding this since I
> _believe_ it should happen that way.  Then again, I may be putting way
> too much reality into this and it was somehow just a one time thing ;)

Wipeout was killed by Hodges.  So He is dead!  I suppose she has some wierd
thing in her genetics!  Really wierd, huh?  Of course Storm has a lot of
Genetic weirdness encoded into her....  It would be interesting to see if they
ever did anything with it, but that would require they sit back and read some 
back issues.  So I doubt it.
						wReam...
			  Ultimate Ninja of the Legion of Net.Heroes!!!!
From: v206gb6c@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PauL M SchwartZ)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #285
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <8epSHRm00iV0Q4ssQe@andrew.cmu.edu>, mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael J. Keating) writes...

>What is the deal with the way they are handling Apocalypse?  I'm tired
>of the way writers just keep adding on more and more to a character. (Be
>it powers, weaknesses, whatever.)  I just would like some continuity. 
>Has anyone ever heard of these safehouses before?  I might just be
>forgetful...
> 
    I'm not sure what the big deal here is.  We don't know squat about A
other that that he's been around a long time.  Here we learn that some of
his capabilities come from alien technology.  What kind of continuity do 
you want form a character that we don't know a whole lot about.

>I can't believe that Wolverine and Bishop practically invaded Canada. 
>With Val's position in the government, I find it hard to believe that
>the only way to retrieve those records was to storm the place.  (I know,
>I know, how else could they be expected to meet up with Cable?)
> 
    Doesn't anyone else understand that this was an unapproved move on
Wolverine's part?  And even with Val's position in the gov., other nations
may not be so friendly depending on what she wants to know (even Canada).

>How could Apocalypse trash the X-Men so easily?  A few pages earlier, he
>was supposedly feeling pretty awful (physically).
> 
    That happening alien technology of his.  He even mentioned it and 
subsequently mentioned that is was running too low have a second round in
the battle.

>Was Psylocke planning to kill Professor X, or somehow help him?  The way
>she was scripted, it's awful ambiguous.  WHo knows?
> 
    Kill him.  The ambiguity was over why she might kill him.  Mercy or
something more incedeous...

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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Judas/PAD ?'s
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:31:12 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <67779@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>The general thought seems to be that readers get the most enjoyment out of
>speculating about things and trying to figure them out for themselves.  That,
>in fact, readers are invariably disappointed when the truth is spelled out
>because then the "fun" is over, as it were.  

While that is true to a certain extent, there's also a limit to how
much we're willing to take.  At this point, I don't think too many
people think it's "fun" to speculate on Wolverine's origin, and would
just rather have the thing revealed once and for all.  Giving us
time (and sufficient clues) to figure it out is fun, but letting
the story stagnate is not.

>Me, I'm lobbying to have a bit in Spider-Man 2099 during issue #6-7, when
>Spider-Man goes "Downtown"...an underworld section of New York that is
>seedy, run down, and similar to NY of today.  And I wanted to have a 
>sign stuck on a wall in the background with the words "THE MUTANT TRAITOR--
>MAY YOU ROT IN HELL" above and below, and a picture in the middle--and the
>picture is obscured by graffiti.  

Sounds good to me.  Do you know who the traitor is, though?  Is there
a traitor at all?  Is it ever going to be revealed?  And if it is,
will we still care when it is?

>In "X-Cutioner's Song," so much is being revealed about Cable and Styrfe that
>(sorry, "Stryfe") that it should be painfully evident who they really are.
>I'll be curious to see what sort of reaction that gets.

Very ambiguous statement.  Either he means that it should be painfully
evident that it's Nathan (I disbelieve, I disbelieve, I disbelieve...)
or that they're making it so obvious and it won't be Nathan (I hope so,
I hope so, I hope so...).  And will it be a "I knew it!" reaction, or
a "Wow!  They sure fooled me!" reaction.  We'll just have to wait
and see, I guess.  *Sigh*

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:27:19 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The awe-inspiring Obscure Trivia Lad notes:
>Anyway, no, Corsair cannot generate bolts of energy.  The hero you are
>thinking of El Aguila, from Power Man and Iron Fist.  He's a mutant
>with ability to generate electrical energy, but can only project it
>through metal objects he's in contact with.  He normally uses his
>sword to do this (so that people think it's the sword that's
>firing the energy), but he also once used it with a grappling hook.
>
>Obscure Trivia Lad, can't think of anything in this post for David
>R. Henry to correct him on, although David will probably think of
>something.

First off, you can drop the R. in friendly company, son. I won't mind.

Second off, maybe I can't find anything to correct you on, but then again,
maybe I can. I've always thought that the Eagle could zap people in
skin-to-skin contact with him, but that metal made for a better conductor,
and thus more damage. In this, though, as in much of life, I could be wrong.

As a side note, El Aguila has also used a windmill's blades to channel
energy, in an enjoyable romp he had in Marvel Comics Presents some years
back.

"If you turn back now, Darwin, the world is doomed!" --the Third Keeper
"I'd start packing." -- Richard Darwin

-- 
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"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue (Re: Lebeau (Gambit))
Date: 9 Oct 1992 16:22:05 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu

dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) mentions:
>As determined on a thread a few weeks ago, Rogue's last use of her power was
>post-Siege Perilous. She took Worm's powers off-screen when saving Zaladane's
>slimed slaves from the falling tower.

Ah, I remember that Savage Land story - I also remember Brainchild looking
like he was having some S&M fun with Shanna (the She-Devil) and that leader
chick of the Mohawk people.  Unless Brainchild is impotent or something, I
consider his actions to fall under the heading of "rape."  Now, I think we
all remember how shocked readers were when Claremont implied that Rogue was
raped by some Genoshan magistrates.  Now why didn't anyone seem to care that
Shanna and Mo'-Hawkgirl were raped (and Worm probably made them enjoy it,
too!)?

-Jon Kung, no .sig as of yet, just these little notes like Dave's -- but
 I am not copying him, I am NOT!! (puff puff wheeze)
From: v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Ideas to help the mutants (was: Re: X-cutioner's Song)
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct9.161258.23132@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes...
>In article <1992Oct7.033116.14252@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang) writes:
>>
>>Hold it!  Have they given any indication that Magneto is comin back at
>>all?  If they have it must have been pretty stuble because I missed it
>>completely.



It was, indeed, pretty stuble...remember, last time we saw Magneto, he was
far from clean-shaven, and with all the time that's gone by without him having
access to a razor...



                                                            --Ben :)
From: EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: 2099 titles and X
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:06:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

In article <1bhl5jINN74t@uwm.edu>, thanatop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Donald
Jacobson) says:
>
>        First off, I would like to give kudos to Peter David and Co.
>        for a kick-butt Spider-Man 2099...which I can talk about here
>        because really its a mutant title!! Miguel OHara's genetic template
>        has been goofed with and changed with the spider so now he is
>        a mutant!! (chew on that for a while) }:->

Sorry, but that makes him a mutate, not a mutant.  Please take your
SpiderMan 2099 discussio elsewhere.  I think Obscure Trivia Lad is rubbing
off on me.  This may be generating unhealthy amounts of static electricity
for someone called SHOKK.  I'd better logoff now before somethig terrible
happens.

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From: p0g3@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (GALBRAITH)
Subject: Re: Sinister
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:59:41 GMT

In article <67354@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>There was chicken soup in the container.  
>
>Just like in the Mr. Freeze episode of the animated Batman, "Heart of Ice."
>
>PAD


Ya, right, and monkeys might fly outta my Butt!!
Not!

Give me a break. 8-P
                    The Crazy Kid Hath Spoken
                       C. Chris G. Galbraith

P.S. I loved IMZADI PAD, more on that later.
From: chak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Buckshot Willie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:25:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct7.150158.18769@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:
>
>>I've thought this through, and to everyone who's been saying, "Why
>>can't Forge make a gizmo to nullify her absorbing power so she can
>>do the nasty but still keep her flight and strength and invulnerability,"
>>no can do.  There's no way for Rogue to keep her flight or anything
>>else from anyone if she doesn't have her absorbing power.  Think of
>
>I may be going out on a limb here, cause I don't have the issue to 
>refer back to handy, but didn't Rogue still have her flying (& strength)
>although weakened, after H.P. Gyrich hit her with Forge's Nullifier?
>I know he said it wasn't a full-strength shot, but I don't remember
>all the details...
>Anyone?
>
   At the time she was struck with the power-destroyer gun, she had already
Storm's powers.  I believe that they were the ones that dissapeared.  So, at
the time she was flying, she was riding the winds (god that sounds bad), so
she lost that ability and started flying like she normally does.  I think   
this is correct, anyone know different?

 -Matt Somers
>			James Willer
>{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
> anyone at all}
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:53:28 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Scott Lobdell, Spelling, and You

Wonder if writing a letter to Harras about Lobdell's spelling and a nice
annotated list of his "appearances" would do the trick.  Can't they at least
afford to use spell checkers, or is Lobdell really that confident in his
spelling.  He's making Dan Quayle look like a champion speller.  And doesn't
the editor...well, edit the mistakes like these?

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From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: REPOST(?): FAQL: X-Men History
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:17:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct15.201728.4962
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University

>                            X-Men History
>                      Martin Phipps      Writer
[...]

>      UX #110-112 had the X-Men captured by Magneto in his subvolcanic
>lair.  "Jean Grey"'s use of the Phoenix force caused systems all over
>the complex to run wild.  She and the Beast managed to escape the
>resulting devastation and believed the X-Men to be dead.  The X-Men
>were in the Savage Land in UX #113-117, Japan in UX #118-119 (guest
>starring Sunfire) and Canada during UX #120-121.  Banshee lost his
>powers in UX #119.  (This storyline followed and preceeded X-Men
>appearances in Iron Fist #15 and Power Man/Iron Fist #57.)

It should be noted that UX#120-121 were the first appearance of most, if
not all, of the original Alpha Flight.

>      The "Days of Future Past" story in UX #141-142 introduced both
>Rachel Summers and the third incarnation of the Brotherhood of Evil
>Mutants, namely Mystique, Avalanche, the Blob, Destiny and Pyro.  Their
>next appearance was in Avengers Annual #10, the first appearance of
>Rogue.

Also note that UX#150 is usually accepted as the point where Magneto first
turns away from ideas of ruling the world, because he had almost killed
Kitty Pryde. (Mags was upset, since she was so young, and they were both
jewish mutants)

>     The New Mutants originally consisted of Canonball, Karma, Mirage,
>Sunspot and Wolfsbane.  The origin of Magma was played out in NM #7-12.
>Magik was introduced in NM #14, the Hellions in #16-17.

...and warlock and Cypher joined the team in #21.



//Karthik
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