From: v094lrtr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Brent Fiene)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: Working with Wolves
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Sep10.203016.13996@odin.corp.sgi.com>, amazon@sgi.com (Stormwind) writes...
>(Brent Fiene) writes:
>>(Stormwind) writes...
>>>(Richard M. Romanowski) writes:
>>>>	Well, you could go to Alaska with a 7.65 mm and shoot down the
>>>>damn airplanes ... and anybody who crawls out of them alive ...
>>>>
>>>>	... but assuming you don't have an automatic weapon handy, you 
>>>>could do something more constructive ... like sabotage the planes on 
>>>>the ground.
>>> 
>>>those of us who are pilots don't approve
>>>of either suggestion; nor does the FAA.  
>>>not all aircraft shoot at wolves.  [...]
>>
>>sorry bud, but i would be out there with a gun shooting down them planes
>>myself if i had the resources. 
> 
>then you're an idiot.  there ARE pilots
>out there who are very concerned for 
>wildlife, and just happen to conduct 
>wildlife counts BY AIRPLANE.  knee-jerk
>reactions don't do anything except make
>life worse for those people who aren't
>engaged in the activity you're reacting
>against.

hello i did specify those shooting out of planes
> 
>>if you dont have a gun shooting out of
>>your plane, or if you dont fly people places to hunt wolves, then i guess
>>you will be fine.
> 
>not according to romanowski up there.
>he didn't specify anything about the
>plane needing to have a gun sticking 
>out of the cockpit, he was advocating
>sabotaging "planes on the ground" AT
>RANDOM without any proof of the plane
>being involved in anything nebulous.
> 
>that makes him...and anyone else advocating
>such a stupid act...every bit as bad as
>the creeps going on safari from the air.
>and if you try to pull a stunt like that,
>well, you deserve to have your life destroyed,
>which i can guarantee you the FAA can and
>will do.  

i was not talking sabotage, see my last statement again. 
> 
>>>my wolf hybrid was partially housebroken.
>>>if you took her for a walk before putting
>>>her in the garage for the night, she wouldn't
>>>mess the floor.  if she didn't get walkies,
>>>however, the floor had to be hosed off the
>>>next morning.
>>
>>i imagine this would be quite the mess. all this talk of housebreaking
>>wolves. fuck that, they are wild creatures. why subvert yet another
>>species to eternity in prison.
> 
>you might want to back up and re-read.
>i said wolf HYBRID.  some people refer to
>hybrids as "wolves" or occasionally as
>"dogs".  this does NOT mean they've dragged
>wild animals in from the forests and
>are trying to tame them.

YOU might want to back up and re-re-read. i did specify WOLVES. your
hybrid is cool with me. i am just saying that we shouldnt take any
more wild animals from the wild... kinda defeats the purpose of
calling them wild. this is coming from a person who hates zoos,
except for those that specialize in saving dying wildlife.

> 
>			stormwind
> 
>			hell's amazon

i didnt mean to come off as too extreme, but i am very passionate about
this subject. has anyone seen the pbs special where they show hunters
carting frozen, dead wolves out of the forests like deadwood? one guy
walked up to a wounded one, put his foot on its head, and blew its head
off from point blank range. then they are left out overnight so that
they will be frozen in the morning.all hail the mighty hunter!

-brent