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From: billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick)
Subject: Re: Libertarian party animal?
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:21:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.175833.5134@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>And I think the symbol should be a cat.  I can't think of a more libertarian
>animal than a cat.  Of course, it will probably offend all the dog lovers
>out there, but a dog would be a terrible symbol.  Dogs are panting sycophants,
>more than happy to do whatever stupid thing their pack leader wants them to
>do.
>
>Cats, on the other hand, do what THEY want to do.  I think our symbol should
>be a cat.

A cat would make a better symbol for anarchists than for libertarians.  I
suggest the lion.  The lion is both a cat (independent and intelligent)
as well as a cooperative animal (prides).

It also makes a good picture.

Bill
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From: rbuchanan@vitalink.com (Rick Buchanan)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: On Banning Private Discrimination
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:58:13 GMT
Reply-To: rbuchanan@vitalink.com (Rick Buchanan)
Organization: Vitalink Communications Corp.  (Standard disclaimer of course)

In article <l6rri3INN3fg@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM 
(Todd Hoff) writes:

> There's as much evidence to support our evilness by nature
> as our goodness. I have always though of prisons as animal pens
> with cops playing the farmer. You're right. Prisons should go.

"Our evilness by nature..."   Interesting notion.  Let's follow it for
a bit.

Since people are evil, we need a massive centralized intrusive government
to keep the evil people in check.   And this government is run by?
Evil people?   Ah, no, we can find a way to ensure that we get some of
those rare non-evil people to benevolently run this monolithic state, right?
We can have _democracy_ where the leaders will be chosen by, uh, er, the
same evil people who are the reason we need an omnipresent interventionist
State in the first place.

And people say the libertarians are confused?

   ---   Rick

       *** Smash the State!  (and have a _nice_ day!) ***
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey)
Subject: Re: What is Libertarianism? 
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 07:49:37 GMT

>I was wondering where I could find more information on the beliefs and
>platform of the Libertarian party?  

The Libertarian Party
1528 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washingtn, D.C.  20003
(202) 543-1988
(800) 682-1776.

Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: International wage control (was Re: Libertarian history)
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:41:25 GMT

In article <4670033@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson) writes:
>> Can you define 'fair' in completely objective terms?  If so, please do.
>> I for one would be absolutely fascinated to see what you think the
>> word means.  Any subjective definitions are, of course, completely
>> useless as a basis for designing a society, so I hope you won't waste
>> our time (and the net's bandwidth) with any such.
>
>What an impoverished life you must lead, believing that only the
>"objective" is real.
>
>Can you define "freedom" in completely objective terms?

Yes. As a term of art, it means the situation in which no one
initiates force against you. Thats it. Very simple.

>To my mind, 
>completely objective definitions occur only in artificially restricted
>domains; such is the nature of language.

Yes, but you can't even give an approximately objective definition for
"fair". 

>Just because you are not interested in subjective definitions as a basis
>for "designing" a society, doesn't mean that others aren't. 

That brings something else up: what right do people have to try to
experiment with MY life? "Designing" a society seems like a fairly
scummy enterprise only engaged in by megalomaniacs. Unfortunately,
there seems to be no shortage of such individuals.
--
Perry Metzger		pmetzger@shearson.com
--
		  Just say "NO!" to death and taxes.
			 Extropian and Proud.
From: bguest9@bsg9.Corp.Sun.COM (Kristian Skrinak)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Turning Japanese
Date: 29 Jul 1992 19:02:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bguest9@bsg9.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bsg9.corp.sun.com


Why does this group focus solely on libertarianism?

Libertarianism and individualism are not synonymous.

There have been several articles lately in the Wall St. Journal, NYT
and SF Chronicle attacking individualism in America (vis a vis Japan).
I expected to find some lively debate here regarding this. Instead it
seems this group is punch drunk in the 1000th round on Libertarianism.

Well, that said, this Sunday's New York Times equated Japanese
conformity with Japanese productivity. The article also stated that if
you ask a typical American classroom what America is all about, the
responses are usually "Freedom of Speech", and "Liberty". The
implication is that we are an everyman-for-himself society.

I personally found the classroom responses refreshing, especially in
light of so many contemporary politicians who seem to believe America
is all about, in the words of Dukakas, "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs". As far as I
could tell that is what the XSSR was all about.

There are inherent reasons that putting the rights of the individual
above those of society promotes a more productive system.  It is called
the price system. The price system is the most effective economic
communicator ever invented. So then, why is Japan so clearly more
productive then we? Does their conformist society have a mechanism
superior to the price system?

I don't believe so. I think it is, in fact, only their perspective on
the price system that is different.

When I was a programmer at a NYC investment bank, I went through their
"corporate culture" in-house training. They stated one of their
principles as Long-Term Greed ("LTG"). The concept of LTG was to align
all of your personal business and group decisions with financial goals
5-10 years out. Forgo short-term profits for long-term. Long-term greed
produces long-term growth, short-term greed produces bankruptcy.

I summarily reject the conclusions of the recent articles that somehow
individualism in America is responsible for low productivity. I argue
that it is simply the perspective on the price system, LTG, in Japan
that accounts for the differences.

What are your thoughts on conformity in Japan? Does anyone have a
personal experience in Japan that highlights the differences on
individualism between our cultures? 

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ccb@axemax.zk3.dec.com (Senor Bennett)
Subject: Re: Need Help
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Nashua, NH
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:18:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.230425.5073@parc.xerox.com>, wheeler@Xerox.com (Molly Wheeler) writes:
|> Hi-
|> I was wondering if someone could help me.
|> I want to buy my boyfriend a guitar for his
|> birthday. I know absolutely nothing about guitars
|> and don't know what the prices range at, etc.
|> Could anyone give me some advice on this?
|> Thanks!
|> 
|> Molly

Don't! Figure out how much you can spend and then offer to make that
amount available to him toward the purchase of a guitar. My wife has
bought me three guitars. The first one she gave me a card and inside
was a slip of paper that said "redeemable for the instrument of your
choice" - I redeemed it for a Rickenbacker 610. The second she said 
"If you'd like a guitar for ..., let's go to the music store, I'll
bring my checkbook." This last time she said "You go get it, I'll pay
for it". I got it and let her pay half. She knows that it would not
be a good idea for her to buy me a guitar without having me involved.
Guitars are like snowflakes and only the prospecive owner can differ-
entiate them. One other thing to remember - most music dealers do not
give refunds for goods returned. Store credit is often the best you
can do (there are exceptions, esp. mailorder). 
-- 

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opinion of DEC's UNIX Engineering Group or Digital Equipment Corp.
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: CESNYD01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Albercrombie -- The one and only Space gopher)
Subject: Re: SLASH- Great or WHAT??!!?
Summary: you gotta be kidding!
Keywords: AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:30:45 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <1992Jul25.012319.17550@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bx372@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

> 
> I was just wandering how many Slash [GNR lead guitarist] admirers are out
> there....  I personally think that he must be one of the greatest hard rock
> guitarists alive...  And if you hear him in concert, you'll probably think
> the same...
> 							Peter.
> -- 
>                        					AstroComp....
> 	         			Specializing in UNIX SECURITY
>                                            For more info call PETER @
> 					         1-504-766-0113

[this note sorta changes threads : be warned!]

Sorry, dude.  I don't think so.  I like GNR, I even look past Axl's
ego-from-hell, he ain't the best.    I agree with the guy that said 'stand
back and look at the big picture'.  Slash fits *VERRRRYYY* neatly in with all 
the other 'I learned my licks from the Blues scales with Black Sabbath'.  For
what he does, it aint too bad.  

   Personally, if I had a choice I would take any Melissa Etheridge album
over a Slash solo.   Now, I'm musically diverse (you can't play much that I
won't listen to), and I love the hard stuff, but if I was in a "!@&$%^@%!##ing
YAH!" mood, I could just as easily pull ME off the shelf as GNR.  She has more
feeling than Slash ever could.  

   Alright - I realize that ME and GNR are not the same music - all I'm
saying is - given a choice for the same mood - she's the one I'll pick.  
Truthfuly, there are a lot of things that could equal or top GNR in one of 
those moods!

   Fur Example :
        any Melissa Etheridge
   	_Black Sabbath_
	any thing by Testament
	anything pre-_RIP_ by Megadeth [It just didn't make it. :(  ]
	_Heading for Tomorrow_ by Gamma Ray (ex-guitarist for Helloween)
	_Gutter Ballet_ or _Hall of the Mountain King_ by Savatage
 	_Master of Puppets_ ('nuff said!)
	_State of Euphoria_ Anthrax
	Nirvana (pick one)
	selections from _The Wall_ 
	deffinately _Operation Mindcrime_
	_High 'n Dry_ Def Leppard
	GWAR 
	Blitzkrieg
	and so on and so on and so forth....

next comments..............

					AlberCrombie
	
 
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                    Ask what your country can do for you.
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From: mae@ukc.ac.uk (M.A.English)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: art
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:20:04 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Strengthening Fingernails for Fingerpicking
Summary: 
Expires: 
Reply-To: mae@ukc.ac.uk (M.A.English)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.
Keywords: 

In article <1992Jul17.190730.4801@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis) writes:
>
>  OK, fingerpickers... I guess the subject says it all.  I keep my right hand  
>fingernails a little long for fingerpicking.  The problem is that they are not  
>flat on the end, but curve around toward the edges of the finger.  (They're  
>also pretty flimsy!)  This produces a rather clumsy sound since there is really  
>no sharp edge that strikes the string.
>
>  I've heard some women talk about taking vitamin-E to strengthen their nails  
>so they don't break, and was wondering if anyone had applied this (or anything  
In reply to article 2198:Re fingernails!

Well, I must say that it's nice to hear of other people who have nail
problems! When I first started classical guitar I had *very* soft nails,
which curved up at the sides, ends, wherever they felt like it!
The solution is to apply 'nail hardener' which can be bought at the chemists
,and is a fluid that you brush onto the fingernails. Also the way you
shape the nails changes their flexibility. Cutting nails with scissors
causes a thin lip to be raised around the edge of the nail, so filing is
recommended, preferably with emery boards. The actual nail does not need
to be long as the picking is done ( for a right-hander ) with the left
edge of the fingertip, and the nail being there to just add the 'edge' to
the notes' sound.

Is this any help?

Mark.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se (Brad Steele)
Subject: Re: SLASH- Great or WHAT??!!?
Reply-To: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:11:52 GMT

Just an observation - I noticed that Slash looks remarkably
like Cousin It from the Addam's Family.

---
Brad
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From: egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu for 7/24 **
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:46:31 EDT

In article <1992Jul24.232205.27122@nevada.edu>, jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender) writes:

> 	Fats Walker
> 		Ain't Misbehaving c
> 
	I believe his name is Fats Waller rather that Walker.

BrianE
From: mjharris@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Gary Moore
Date: 25 Jul 92 13:30:43 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <4726@miramon.lulea.trab.se>, lehe@lulea.trab.se (Lennart Hedenstr|m) writes: 
> I'm a total fanatic when it comes to Gary Moore. So, it's nice to see his name
> mentioned every now and then on the net. I agree with the two quotes above,
> but just let me point some things out. I don't consider "Empty Rooms" as being
> part of Gary's early stuff even if it's pre-Gary's-blues-era. You see, he
> started out in the late sixties playing in bands like Skid Row, which you
> shouldn't mix up with the young american band led by Seb Bach. He then joined
> Thin Lizzy, another Irish band. He formed an own band around 1973, joined Thin
> Lizzy again 1974. After that did alot of session work in an around London, and
> joined Colosseum II, which was a jazz/rock kind of band. The he joined Thin
> Lizzy again in 1978, and recorded the magnificent album "Black Rose" in 1979.
> Then after that he played behind Greg Lake on tours and two albums. In the
> early '80s he started to get serious about a solo carrier. He released several
> albums during the '80s, all being mostly hard rock. He now lives in the US and
> seems happy to play the blues. He has released two blues albums so far, but
> with Gary you never know what will happen next... He certainly can play the
> guitar and has proved over the years that he can handle a lot of different
> styles like jazz/rock, blues, hard rock, and whatever...
> 
> When will he make it to the cover of Gauitar Player or Guitar World ? I think
> those magazines don't look beyond the borders of USA often enough, but that's
> another story...
> 
> --Lennart

I certainly agree with you that Black Rose is totally magnificent,
with lots of excellent Moore solos, but I think the other
guitarist on that album (Scott Gorham) is just as amazing, although
perhaps not quite as melodic. I always wondered what happened to him
after Thin Lizzy broke up, as he was the reason (with Gary Moore), that
I took up guitar. I heard that he was recording with a band called 21
Guns a couple of years back, and that was the last I heard/saw of him.
Anyone got any news? 

One of the most agonised moments of my life was when I was waiting for 
a train at Reading station, and realised that Gary Moore was waiting 
for the same train just along the platform and looking bored. I was 
just too much in awe to go and talk to him, so I didn't, and have always 
regretted it. Incidentally, if anyone wants to read a lengthy interview 
with him, he was the main feature in the UK "Guitarist" magazine in March 
this year.

Mark Harris
Dept of Physics
University of Oxford
UK
From: drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Douglas R Puchalski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: HELP:  String breakage of the High E on an acoustic.
Date: 25 Jul 92 22:49:57 GMT
Reply-To: drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Jul25.051708.2615@u.washington.edu>, insomnia@carson.u.washington.edu (Ryan Klemmer) writes:
>
> What are some good brands of strings in the mid (10-20 dollars) price
> range?  I keep breaking the high E string on quite new (1 month old)
> strings.
>
> Any suggestions?

Sounds like you need to have a look at your neck.  Check for burrs
on the frets--this would cause strings to break in the same place
every time.

-- 
Doug Puchalski						drp40@cd.amdahl.com
From: CESNYD01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (AlberCrombie - The Space Gopher)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Slash - GOOD!??!!    HUH!?!?!
Date: 30 Jul 1992 21:27:35 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 In <1992Jul25.012319.17550@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bx372@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

> 
> I was just wandering how many Slash [GNR lead guitarist] admirers are out
> there....  I personally think that he must be one of the greatest hard rock
> guitarists alive...  And if you hear him in concert, you'll probably think
> the same...
> 							Peter.
> -- 
>                        					AstroComp....
> 	         			Specializing in UNIX SECURITY
>                                            For more info call PETER @
> 					         1-504-766-0113

[this note sorta changes threads : be warned!]

Sorry, dude.  I don't think so.  I like GNR, I even look past Axl's
ego-from-hell, he ain't the best.    I agree with the guy that said 'stand
back and look at the big picture'.  Slash fits *VERRRRYYY* neatly in with all 
the other 'I learned my licks from the Blues scales with Black Sabbath'.  For
what he does, it aint too bad.  

   Personally, if I had a choice I would take any Melissa Etheridge album
over a Slash solo.   Now, I'm musically diverse (you can't play much that I
won't listen to), and I love the hard stuff, but if I was in a "!@&$%^@%!##ing
YAH!" mood, I could just as easily pull ME off the shelf as GNR.  She has more
feeling than Slash ever could.  

   Alright - I realize that ME and GNR are not the same music - all I'm
saying is - given a choice for the same mood - she's the one I'll pick.  
Truthfuly, there are a lot of things that could equal or top GNR in one of 
those moods!

   Fur Example :
        any Melissa Etheridge
   	_Black Sabbath_
	any thing by Testament
	anything pre-_RIP_ by Megadeth [It just didn't make it. :(  ]
	_Heading for Tomorrow_ by Gamma Ray (ex-guitarist for Helloween)
	_Gutter Ballet_ or _Hall of the Mountain King_ by Savatage
 	_Master of Puppets_ ('nuff said!)
	_State of Euphoria_ Anthrax
	Nirvana (pick one)
	selections from _The Wall_ 
	deffinately _Operation Mindcrime_
	_High 'n Dry_ Def Leppard
	GWAR 
	Blitzkrieg
	and so on and so on and so forth....

next comments..............

					AlberCrombie
	
 
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^
AlberCrombie 					 - The One and Only Space Gopher
cesnyd01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu				  cesnyd01@ulkyvx.bitnet
                 "Ask not what you can do for your country.
                    Ask what your country can do for you.
                TAKE NO PRISONERS, TAKE NO %&#$!" - MegaDeth
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: lonachon@anu.edu.au (andrew longhorn )
Subject: Re: Satriani - The Australian
Reply-To: lonachon@anu.edu.au
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:51:36 GMT


My local store said they'll start selling mid next week. So i'd say around
mid next week maybe. (It is quite possible the scum lied to me).

Keep the track descriptions rollin' in.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ryanr@beethoven.beethoven.CS.ColoState.EDU (richard ryan)
Subject: Re: Strengthening Fingernails for Fingerpicking
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:11:50 GMT
	<92199.131131WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <45333@shamash.cdc.com>
	<1992Jul18.043926.16621@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
	<denmckinnon.1.711448997@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au>
	<BrLErB.Mou@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: /s/bach/a/under/ryanr/.organization

In article <BrLErB.Mou@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rgp39716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rahul G. Patwari) writes:

   Well, its not the fear of breaking a nail that drives me to want to 
   strengthen my nails, but it's the fact that they hook inward at the ends.
   The sound is much better if they're flatter.  I've been told to try and
   file off that hook, but that doesn't seem to work.  

I've got a similar problem.  The solution I've been able to find
is to keep my nails a little shorter than most and to learn to
play with it.  If you're creative enough, you might be able to
exploit the situation somehow.
From: ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com (Tom Testagrossa)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Peavey Classic 50...
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:26:22 GMT
Reply-To: ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com (Tom Testagrossa)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard, Ma.



|> Note that I saw a Peavey Classic 50 in a store near where I live (semi-famous
|> for being a shooting location for Wayne's World) with a $400 list tag...
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^ 
|> Therefore you should be able to buy that amp (which a friend claims has
|> excellent tone - rivaling his early Fender Super Reverb) for about $240 or
|> a little more...
|>                                             

          No way!! List on a Peavey Classic 50 (4x10, luggage vinyl) is $799
(for a 4x10) the going price is aroung ~$520,(there is also a 2x12 version, at about $100 less list, which means about $50 less to you)...
	I know because I just bought one a few days ago. I searched high and low for my best deal, and paid $490...(just $90 over invoice) from a local music store who ordered it for me.
	Yes the sound is superb. I have searched for a Fender Super Reverb
for months with little or no luck...(Yes they're out there...but at around $600
for a DECENT condition one, $800 for a really nice one...most need tubes at the minimum!!!)
	This amp suits me fine pricewise, sounds awsome, has the warrenty,
and even looks cool!!!
	I'm playing it at it's 1st gig tonight  and I can't wait!
Tom T.