From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:54:08 GMT
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In article <1992Nov11.192822.27139@osf.org> Terri Buchman <buchman@osf.org> writes:
>In article <BxK9K7.Mvn@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> Greg Trotter,
>greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu writes:
>>P.S. You ever notice that companies will put EEO/AA on
>applications, ads,
>>etc.? Of course, this expands to mean "Equal Opportunity
>Employer/Affirmative
>>Action." Isn't this contradictory? If you have a quota system in
>place, it's
>>not equal opportunity.
>
>Yah right.  I have listened to people complaining about this for
>years.  I have heard people in my town complain about a close friend
>or relative who scored highly on the test for police/firemen etc.
>and then can't get a job because an AA was hired who scored much
>lower on the test.  This complainer lives in the suburbs, wants to
>be hired in the suburbs.  When I ask them to tell me how many
>minorities actually work in their community at that job they usually
>can't name any.
>
>I'll believe your complaints when:
>	Colleges do away with legacy admits (AA for rich white people -
>more spaces are held for the children for alumni at Ivy colleges
>than are held for all minorities put together.  Most be okay when
>some folks do it.)
>	Redlining is done away with in financially strapped communities. 
>Why can't low income areas get small business loans.  Isn't the
>great conservative panacea supposed to be the small business person
>who builds a business by dint of sweat and blood.  So where's the
>money for people of color so they can pull themselves up.  (See
>Federal Government Study published this year detailing the failure
>of the banking industry to service communities of color.)  How come
>LA is still waiting for the SBA to dispense approved funds?  Will
>the folks in Florida have to wait as long?  What percentage of tax
>money paid by people of color actually goes back into their
>communities?
>	Women start making some gains in income.  We're still getting 68
>cents for every dollar a man makes.  Women are still overwhelming
>stuck in the pink collar ghetto/low paying wage jobs.  Less than one
>tenth of one percent of the CEO's in this country are women.  The
>percentages for people of color are equally bad.  If there are
>quotas, then where the hell are the quotees?

Are you saying that quotas don't work?

>This sounds like the same old bullshit I've been hearing for years. 
>Americans talk a good game about believing in equality of
>opportunity and equal access.  But when put to an actual test they
>would rather believe that another person was given special
>preference than believe that a minority or a woman might just be
>able to do their job as well or better than they do.   Learn to
>share power or get the hell out of the way.

Ummm... I didn't express a complaint. Merely a fact which you don't
seem to like. Read my reply to an earlier character-assassination for
more details.

					- greg

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