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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:40:59 EST
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From:         Margaret Joppa <joppa@PSYCH.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Feminism

Yes, Julie, I do mean that the two types of magazines should be stocked, not
necessarily sold.  I don't care if demand for magazines which objectify men
is low, I just think there should be equal representation, however rude or
offensive.  So in answer to your question, no, the objectification of both
men and women would not have to be in the same 'zine.  Maybe the logical
solution to the problem of male oriented porn is to encourage female oriented
porn.  Somehow this is unsatisfying, because I for one do not want to treat
men like meat (well ok a few).
M. Joppa
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Don't judge?

>
>From: Sunni <bjreilman@uccs.edu>
>Subject:      RE: Attn. Deficit Disorder
>
>Come on! How many kids have you actually worked with? Don't judge until
>you have seen.


Me?

Well, I worked full time for three years in a children's
psychiatric hospital affliated with the University of Oklahoma
Medical School, and I'd say I had daily contact with somewhere
between 150-200 kids who had comorbid diagnoses including
ADD with and without hyperactivity.  In my last year there,
a group of 5 Neuropsychologists and Neuropsychiatrists
who were conducting a longitudinal study in conduct disorder,
reported to our treatment team that 40% of the kids who had been
diagnosed ADD prior to their admisson to our clinic did not meet
DSM-III criteria for the disorder.  And that's just the kids
that were admitted.  Of those 40%, 100% had been placed on
Ritalin at some point -- in the opinion of the pros, none of them
should have been.

In terms of research, I spent a year as a Research Assistant at
the Judge Baker Children's Center in Boston (affiliated with the
Harvard Medical School), working on a MacArthur grant on
developmental psychopathology, and assisted in the evaluation
of 70 adolescent and pre-adolescent boys who had been dx with ADD.

So, yes, I *have* worked with one or two.

Can I play now?  :)

Kenn
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:27:57 -0500
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From:         GORDONSE@UNCG.BITNET
Subject:      Re: departmental sex

This is an important issue in our department as it looks as though
our department uses the grad student application pool as a dating
service.  About 1/3 of our faculty is married to graduate students.
All have been careful not to date students they supervise.  At one
time one of the faculty members was sleeping with so many of his
undergraduates that some of the rest of the faculty complained to
him and he has been behaving himself better since then.  Another
thing is that the relationships are mutual, thus avoiding sexual
harrassment situations.

Our more serious problems arise from faculty dating each other
and then not being able to carry on professionally when they
break up.  One sometimes has to go to great lengths to form
a committee due to these problems.

Student-student relationships have for the most part worked
out very well and there have been a number of wonderful
marriages resulting from them.

There are some problems in other departments, such as
professors providing additional information that helps a
student's grade when s/he is sleeping with that person,
students being sexually assaulted by a professor in their
office and then claiming that the student did the assualting,
a counseling student raping another student and then claiming
that she wasn't in very good psychological shape and didn't
know what she was talking about.  However, none of these
last situations are mutually desired equal relationships.

Sharon
gordonse@uncg.bitnet
gordonse@iris.uncg.edu
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From:         Sunni <bjreilman@UCCS.EDU>
Subject:      RE: FAE

I'm not sure, but check Pyszczynski.
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: This !@#%$@ definition thing...
              22 Nov 1992 16:14:19 -0500 from <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>

Thank you Kenn, for the breath of fresh air.
You better stated what I was trying to say, that Kathy's definition is
so broad as to include anything relating to social consciousness and
conscionable thought. My question is, how does that distinguish the
feminist from others? What is it about gender issues that make the
feminist different from other persons who are socially conscious?
What is the difference between the person who is sympathetic with
the ideas of gender equality and the feminist? Or is there?
   I don't think it's arguable that feminism attends particularly to
gender differences and issues.  So what makes a feminist?
Tim
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From:         Sunni <bjreilman@UCCS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sunni and "what to do"

I never said that drugs were good. Yargh!
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From:         lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Adult ADD

     Interesting how ADD may obbey the "thirds rule" (1/3 improves, 1/3
worsens, 1/3 remains the same) that used to be (or still is?) the rule for
schizophrenia.
     I've only known one adult with ADD but it was self-diagnosed
retrospectively, and the person's objectivity is suspect.
     Tim, do you mean that ADD tends to be comorbid with personality
disorders and/or alcohol? or is it more like it's misdiagnosed as ADD when
it's really one of the others? Or can we even know?
     Nangel
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From:         "David M. Fresco" <FRESCO@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: RE: Attn. Deficit Disorder

I've been learning about Behavioral Tx/Assessment for ADD in a
course this term.  Let me offer you a truly amazing reference source
on this and other topics:
.
Schroeder, C.S. and Gordon, B.N.(1991). Assessment and Treatment of
       Childhood Problems:  A Clinician's Guide. New York:  Guilford.
.
Betty Gordon was my instructor for Child Assessment and is currently
my co-instructor for CBT (covering child CBT).  Further, she is just
a really remarkable psychologist.  It's a really great book that takes
both developmental and behavioral approach to psychopathology.  Great
stuff!
David Fresco
UNC-CH
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Tolerance

I defined gasket as a restraining device commonly used to hold liquids
(or other humors) within a hollow body, at a point where two separate
but contiguous portions of that body wall meet.  In this context, I
imagine it as a mental restraining device--inhibition, if you like.
Personally, I imagine steam streaming out of one's ears, upon such a
gasket being blown.  Or, the sending of silly rhetorical questions over
the email......:-)
--Kathy Morgan
kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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From:         Eric Zorrilla <zorrilla@CATTELL.PSYCH.UPENN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Help with Hippocampi

Monika (and interested others),

> I quite agree, however, from my profesional perspective, the hypothalamus is
> very much a part of the limbic system (limbic as in "reward-related"), since

I must admit that in my intellectual laziness, I've adopted the word
limbic as an anatomical heuristic and one largely unrelated to its original
proposition as the "reptilian" brain with its reward characteristics...

> the electrical stimulation of this structure induces very fast and stable
> "bar pressing"...

Can we get a little more specific (I'm sincerely interested in this - shows
how disparate literatures can proceed apace without one knowing anything
about the other).  Specifically, what nuclei of the hypothalamus?  (and
where do their axons project?)

> The hippocampus, was always thought of as linked to memory and learning, but
> some studies have been done, to show that self-stim of the same kind I
 describe
> above, can also be obtained.

I'm curious, if self-stimulation is found so diffusely (not quite the right
word), does that raise concerns about the specificity of what you're looking
at?  Or, more generally, how these brain structures might contribute more
or less to reward in a system that didn't have exogenously introduced
direct stimulation.

(not to say anyone's right or wrong, but the hippocampus has been asserted
as being important in almost everything under the sky.  it probably does
have a role in the networks that determine these things, but it's quite
difficult to determine its *physiological* roles when we're imposing
parameters on it that it might not normally see).

Eric
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From:         "psp.dasilvaalvo" <J.H.Dasilvaalvo@SEQ.HULL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: departmental sex (subject for gossip? NOT!)

>
Hi all,
Matthew writes that:
> I have to disagree.  If I was in the position of the secretary, and
> I was cautious about the damage gossip can do, I would not be telling
> students stories about what happens in personal meetings.  I would
> say simply, something like, "the department chair does not handle
> complaints of sexual harrassment that well" or "Based on personal
> experience, I recommend that you go straight to the dean of social
> sciences with your complaints" or something ambiguous like that.

Isn't this gossip?  By saying *something* one becomes immediatly involved in
a gossip exchange. If one doesn't want to get involved with gossip or
departmental politics one shouldn't go into academia. I haven't found a
department of psychology where there isn't any gossip. Clinical psychology
thrives on it. What are all those case reports in scientific journals? They
sound very much like gossip. This gossip becomes a problem only when one uses it
for one's own interest.  Let's be honest psychology and psychologists couldn't
exist without gossip.
Bye all.
Jorge
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:01:38 -0700
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From:         Matthew Prull <PRULLM@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      Averaging repeated GRE scores

Hi all...although this doesn't apply to most individuals on the net, I
thought I'd present one person's strategy that prevented her GRE
scores to be averaged over time and over repeated testings.  Although
I only took the GREs once, it's my understanding that if you aren't
happy with your scores you can take the GREs again as many times as
you want.  However, these scores--no matter how much they might have
improved by a second or third shot at it--are averaged with the first
test scores which could have been colossally bad.  These averaged
scores are what the ETS sends out to grad schools for their consider-
ation.

Now say one has taken the GREs once and scored low (say 400 Verbal,
400 Math, 400 Analytical).  Suppose further this same person decides
to retake them, and scores 800 Verbal, 800 Math, and 800 Analytical (I
wish that was me) a 2nd time.  If potential grad schools were to see
this last set of scores, I would think this would play a very large
weight in grad school consideration and would lead to the student's
eventual acceptance at just about every school I can think of.
However, if the two sets are averaged (leading to 600 V, 600 M, 600
A), I think that this set of scores would lead to acceptances at some
schools, but not as many (all else being equal, such as grades, rec
letters, etc.). One would be more limited and would have to choose
from a smaller set of schools.

All this prompted a recently hired prof at my undergraduate
institution to simply flip-flop her middle and last name upon taking
the GREs a second time.  According to ETS' records, then, a set of
scores from "Jane Mary Scott" (not this profs name) and "Jane Scott
Mary" should not be averaged.  To the computers at ETS they are two
different people.  Since this prof had drastically improved upon
retaking the GREs she did get a great many offers in clinical Ph.D.
programs.  Once she accepted, she re-flip- flopped her name back,
eventually told her new school about her strategy, and that was that.
Before this prof did this name flipping, she did a great deal of
research and came up with no evidence that prevents one to do this
name flipping.  She just saw a loophole and decided to fill it.

Pretty slick, huh?  Just thought I'd share that anecdote with y'all.


_____________________________________________________________________
            Matthew Prull - The Claremont Graduate School
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Psy.D. Programs?

Has your friend not checked out the APA guide to clinical and counseling
programs?  That's usually the first step in this process.
T.
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From:         "David M. Fresco" <FRESCO@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: CBT for children

Robin,
Robert's suggestion re:  Kendall is a good one.  He was my second reader
on my honor's project as an undergraduate and has done some really
neat things with CBT for kids especially with anxiety.
David Fresco
UNC-CH
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From:         Sunni <bjreilman@UCCS.EDU>
Subject:      RE: PSY.D...

Denver University has a Psy D program also.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:31:25 -0500
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From:         20SSMITH@GALLUA.BITNET
Subject:      Jury selection process

Does anyone have any good references on the impact of the field
of psychology in the jury selection process in criminal cases.
I can't remember the name of the psychologist involved in the
William Kennedy Smith rape trial...I saw her on a news show like
60 minutes or 20/20 shortly after the trial but have since forgotten
her name...I think her first name was Kathy?  She recently died of
cancer...at any rate I'd like to get my hands on anything she may
have published on the use of psychology in jury selection...Thanks

Sybil
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From:         Sunni <bjreilman@UCCS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Adult ADD

Tim,
I know of a lady who spent years trying to deal with a child diagnosed ADHD,
only to learn that he HAD in fact been misdiagnosed and was actually a
bipolar manic. Wow! What a difference. Additionally I do believe that if
ADHD is not managed well that the kids will grow into all sorts of later
personality problems. Our research has shown a sample of juvenile first time
offenders taken from the Juvenile Diversion division here in El Paso County
scored significantly higher than normals of the same age, etc. on a
personality inventory developed in accordance with Axis II of DSM-III-R,
to measure the different personality disorders and a neuropsych index (for
ADHD). They were higher on antisocial,borderline, passive aggressive, self-
defeating, dependent and histrionic scales, as well on the neuropsych index.
Other research that indicates that kids with hyperactivity and attention
deficits have concomitant antisocial behaviors is Johnson, 1989; Quitkin
and Klein, 1969; Borland and Heckman, 1976; Yeudall, Fromm-Auch, & Davies,
1982.
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Porno and the pursuit of the perfect Chippendale dude...

>From: Margaret Joppa <joppa@PSYCH.PURDUE.EDU>
>Subject:      RE: Feminism
>
>  ... Nobody ever suggested it but
>I think that equal numbers of 'zines objectifying men should be sold to
>offset the numbers of 'zines objectifying women.  Objectifying the opp-
>osite gender is definitely NOT something that should be promoted, but there
>is something to be said for equal representation.
>M. Joppa
>
>

Margaret,

I think I get your point  :)   but think of the implications of "equal
representation" here -- just one more federal mandate to burden businesses.
If it's an optional rule, no one will comply, so you have to make it
a crime.  And if you do, where on *earth* in the Justice Department
would you suggest we take funds from to enforce this new rule?  How
'bout Mom and Pop type places that carry dozens of nudy-magazines?
They should now double their inventories in the pursuit of "equality"?

Geez, whatever happened to free enterprise and market forces?  Supply
and demand and all that?  It seems to me that if the consuming public
*wanted* 5 or 6 more Playgirl-type periodicals, some entrepenurial (?)
yahoo would have 'em on the press in no time.

But what do I know, I'm just a white male oppressor pig...    :-)

Jocularly yours,

Kenn
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From:         Stephanie Fishkin <fishkin@SCF.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Address wanted

Does anyone have an address for Norbert Schwarz?  If so, can you please
send it to me?

Thanks!

Stephanie at USC

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And, no one rob me till I awake.

Stephanie Fishkin
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Discrimination

PS--I never let my undergrads get away without an operational
definition of their terms, either!  :-)
--Kathy
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