From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Somebody please get Othman Ahmad off the newsgroup!
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:47:59 GMT

afs2@po.CWRU.Edu (Ahmad F. Shaarani) writes:
>It amazes me how a graduate (I'm assuming here) student like him has

He is not. 
>the time to write all the crap that he's been putting on the newsgroup.
>I don't blame the people from the other ASEAN countries for wanting 
>a separate newsgroup, one which does not have Othman Ahmad and his 
>stale arguments. So do we Malaysians (most of us, anyway).

>As for Othman Ahmad, I hope he reads this:
>Encik Othman, what the Malays are doing to the other races is wrong.
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I will put it as " the POLITICIANS & SOME of the Malays". 

>Perhaps the definition for right and wrong differs greatly among 
>individuals, and mine may be different from yours. I use the standard
>based on the fact that we are all creatures and servants of the Almighty
>and it is wrong for us to discrminate on the difference that HE alone
>decided. 
>The Chinese and the Indians (maybe not so much the older generation as
>the younger one) are a loyal lot, only if you knew. Or perhaps you
>chose not to see their loyalty. They do not deserve to be treated as second
>-class citizens. It is morally wrong. Please do open your eyes to the
>truth.

Yes, you are right. After all they are born & bred  there. What
other country would they be loyal to ? China ? They wouldn't have
much feeling for China, neither would they know much about China.
Malaysia is their home.

Yes, they do not deserve to be discriminated. As  rightful
citizens of the country, they should be treated fairly. This
however, does not prevent the needy & deserving Malays from
getting scholarships, grants or loans, for example. In other words,
the Malays could still be getting helps without at the expense of
& discriminating  other races. 

>As a Muslim, I believe in justice. If one does something bad to someone,
>even if the doer is Muslim and it is done to a non-Muslim, God Almighty
>would see to it that the doer pays for his bad deed. In school, I was
>taught that God would always take the side of the oppressed, and I truly 
>that if we do not stop this injustice, grave consequences will befall the
>Malays. We might gain materialistically, but what is that in the long run?

Yes, I like the way our PM puts it : NO MORE HANDOUTS (see under Malaysian
News). I hope our PM means what he said.  Because the word 'BUMIPUTRA'
is used like a magic word & the outrageous gov't policy, that is
why after some 20 years of the so called NEP, they are still 
asking for the SAME THING - "HANDOUTS"!  Do away with the 
discrimination, do away with the outrageous policies, but help
them ( Malays) as they should be helped. Then you will see the 
Malays will be much more competitive & will be on par with
other races in the country. This will do good to everybody; and
the deserving Malays will not be labelled as 'parasites'. 
I have come across some very brilliant Malays; but I have
also experience with a good number of Malays who come back
from overseas (USA especilly) with Master Degrees but know
next to nothing. (Everybody's money down the drain!)

>To all the Malays who support Othman's stand, I hope that you will open 
>your eyes to the suffering of our fellow Malaysians, our neighbors, our
>friends. We need them as much as they need us. We are different, but
>do not let physcial differences separates us.
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Actually not that much different too. Indeed if more people
especially the politicians, think like you Malaysia would
have become the 4th 'DRAGON', & everybody in the country
would have benefited.

>-- 
>Ahmad Faisal Adham Shaazi        | 
>Computer Engineering             | 
>Case Western Reserve University  | 
>Cleveland Ohio USA               | 
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