From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Mrs. Bo Brady?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:01:19 GMT
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In article <1992Dec15.015228.1021@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, timothy.j.mizerak writes:

> In article <1gh1bmINNi0q@crcnis1.unl.edu> mdc@cse.unl.edu (Mrs. Michael Cornelius) writes:
> >
> >I am very disappointed in all you people who have nothing better to do than
> >to post gripes and complaints about a television show you supposedly like to
> >watch.  It is a woman's choice as to whether she wants to change her name or
> >not, regardless of what her current profession is or status in life.  Give
> >the character, Carly a break.  All you Carly bashers need to realize that
> >this is just a show to entertain the people who wish to be entertained.  Say
> >something nice for once.  Not to mention, it is the writers who give her the
> >scripts she has to read.  I think she is a good actress and everyone should
> >get off this gripe session.  You people are as bad as the Star Trek fans.
> 
> 
> Oh would you PLEASE just go away!   Like we are really going to take
> to heart the rantings of someone that just comes happening along w/out
> even the courtesy of telling us whom she is.   I won't even bother 
> disecting your very rude, and very out of line, prose.  

     Calm down Tim!  Too much caffeine today? :-)
     *Ahem*.  While Miss Manners does agree with your sentiments, 
Miss Manners doesn't approve of rudeness :-).  

     Now that I've chastised Tim, on to business.  Mrs.Cornelius
(I hate using that form of address, but that's all we got from you
and it sure beats saying 'hey you!')....
You say you're disappointed all we do is gripe.  Well, we do say
nice stuff, just very rarely.  Look, I'll say something nice...I
was impressed with Marlena on Friday.  She looks terrible.  This
is good, I'm always annoyed when people come out of stuff like
that looking perfect.  Remember when Eve fell out of that
chopper, fell at least 100 feet, bounced off a rock, had surgery,
and woke up with a few cuts a scrapes?  Annoying as hell.
I won't address the name changing issue, that's been beaten to
death IMO.
Give Carly a break?  Not hardly.  Whay should we?  Yes, this show
is entertainment, supposedly.  But if you don't like Carly,
you're not wanted.  Lets face it, why don't they just fire
everyone except RKK, CC, and Sabatino...that seems to be their
goal.  Crystal is on at least 4 days a week.  Those who used to
tolerate her now despise her.  Due to bad writing, lots of
characters, most notably J&J have been trashed.  They were the
supercouple of the show, yet for some reason TPTB chose to try
and get rid of Matt and push Bo and Carly on us.  They have no
chemistry.  They have no humor.  They have no romance.  They are
not a supercouple.  (pant pant foam at the mouth).
Okay, I'll lay off Bozo and Coitus.  Doctors orders.  
If you like Carly, if you like certain elements of the show, SAY
SO!  Start a conversation/thread.  Don't sit back and grump that
other people aren't talking about what you want to hear...if we
don't know you're there, if we don't know anything about you, how
is this OUR fault?  You wanna talk about how great Carly is?
Fine, jump right in.  Most of us are dying of curiousity to
figure out what the hell people like about her.  Really.  And we
put up with Rick, the defender of Isabella! :-).  So opposing
viewpoints are welcome, although it can get rough, I admit.
As to her just doing what is written, I think that can be
rebutted easily.  There are now at least 2 cases on record where
Missy Reeves refused to do scenes and had them changed.  In the
latest SOD, there is a blurb about how Elaine Bromka (Stella)
felt uncomfortable with some lines and had them removed.  If a
'nobody' as such like Bromka can have input, why can't CC?  The
answer is, she does!  She *likes* what they're giving her.  She
has no complaints.  She wants to be paier with LAwrence and have
his past forgotten.  So don't say she's *only* doing what's
written.  They're writing it this way cause she wanted it.

As to Star Trek fans, well, I'll stay out of that one :-).

Please keep in mind we are mostly long term viewers who have been
forced to stand by and hopelessly watch as what was once the best
soap on TV has been totally, methodically, deliberately reduced
to number 8 in the ratings, and number 12 in quality.  We've had
ur intelligence insulted, our feelings hurt, our favorite
actors/characters destroyed and fired for no good reason.  We've
suffered through stories that would be charitable called
god-awful.  We've watched bad actors hired and pushed over good
ones.  We've seen good actors reduced to bumbling fools.  We are
outraged, hurt, and frustrated.  We write letters, but they are
obviously ignored.  The people in charge don't care and we know
it.  This is the only place we have to vent our hurt and anger
and frustration.  Lots of people want to quit, but what if
something good happened then?  Lots of us are hanging on by our
fingernails, hoping and praying that someday *our* soap will make
a triumphant return, and make us laugh and cry and sit on the
edge of our seats like we used to do.  We're losing hope fast,
but still hanging in there, talking to each other, trying to band
together and get all the hurt and anger out, and to comfort each
other every time we see our hopes slipping further away.  That's
what this group is all about.  Like I said, you are welcome to
join in if you're willing to make a contribution, not just to
attack us.  We really are willing to accept and meet new friends,
even though things sometimes get off on the wrong foot and get
heated (right Ann and Sue Hagan?  Are there still hard feelings?
I truly hope not.  Really.)  So if you don't like what we're
discussing, don't sit off in a corner and sulk about it.  Make an
effort to join in and start a new conversation (I wish I'd
thought to save all my 'Why I Hate Carly' posts!).  But don't
just jump in and flame us.

*off soapbox...back to study chair*
> 
>  
> >I am posting this on my husband's account to don't get mad at him.
> 
> 
> Mad at him?  I pity the poor fella.  :-)

     Now Tim...I bet you've been stuck inside driving Susan crazy
cause of the storm, right?  Cabin fever?  Boo Boos driving ya
nuts:-).  (He's really not always this bad.  Usually, but not
always)
> 
> 
> >Michael Cornelius        -}---------  Luck is not technique.  ---------(-
> >mdc@cse.unl.edu                       I'd rather be fencing! 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> |  What is it up in the air for?                :   Timothy Mizerak        |
> |  It's going to fall if it's there for long.   :   tm@mhnmc.att.com       |
> |  It's over, it's over me.             R.E.M.  :                          |


Roserooni the peacekeeper driven to the brink of suicide by
finals (you know you're in trouble when you need 35/100 on the
final to pass the class and come out of the final wondering if
you did good enough for a 35! *sigh*.  2 down, 2 to go)
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