HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rodgers@maxwell.mmwb.ucsf.edu (R. P. C. Rodgers, M.D.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Information requested on Unix management tools
Keywords: SNMP CMOT management
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:39:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

In <1992Aug27.010836.26484@primerd.prime.com> jtb@hacker.Prime.COM ( James Bruner ) writes:

>In article <1992Aug26.125037.2183@cs.cornell.edu>, wood@cs.cornell.edu (Mark D. Wood) writes:
>|> 
>|> I would like pointers to papers describing Unix management tools, for

>I would also be interested in hearing what people are using.  What are
>the names of some of the canned packages that your using and what its
>functionality is.  If the original poster has received any responses
>please send me copies of them.

You might want to investigate the System Manager's Toolkit (SMT)
from Berkeley Office of Technology Licensing (otl@violet.berkeley.edu).

Cheerio, Rick Rodgers
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: rick@sadtler.sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Do I need a bridge or router?
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:34:41 GMT

Hi.  I have a thin-net backbone.  On one end are a half-dozen UNIX
workstations.  On the other end is a dozen PCs running NOVELL.  In
between is a VAXstation running VMS/DECNET/PATHWORKS, and FUSION's
TCP/IP.  Both the workstation group and the PC group need to access
the VMS system.

So I plugged the two backbones together and it worked dandy.  My
TCP packets go screaming down the line, ignored by the PCs, their
NOVELL packets go screaming past us, ignored by our workstations.
And we can both talk to the VAXstation.

But...Lately, the workstations have been having trouble with NFS.
The serving station says "le0: Carrier loss, transiever cable
trouble?" or some such...

Problem goes away when I terminate the network between PC group
and Workstation group.

So, I have a Cabletron Systems repeater with LANVIEW (a bunch of
LEDS) on my shelf.  I hook it up and the "receive" light stays on
except for an occasional flicker on the PC side.  The "receive"
light stays off except for occasional blinks on the workstation
side.

So.  Is the PC side just soooo busy that I will have to use
a filtering bridge to keep these networks together?  Or do I
need a router?  What's the difference?  I read "A network bridge
is another term for a router".  Boy am I confused!  Or might there
be a short between the PC and Workstation side.  PC group has
experienced no difficulty lately, so I doubt a short.

Email or post.  I will summarize.  Thanks!

-Rick.
-- 
Rick Morris                            Email:  rick@sadtler.com
Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia   -But I speak for myself
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,news.software.readers
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: version of rn with YN option to add new newsgroups?
Followup-To: news.software.readers
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:43:55 GMT

Followups redirected to news.software.readers:

In article <1992Aug29.155016.29000@walter.bellcore.com>
mbs@bae.bellcore.com (Mike Sullivan) writes:

:I just built a new version of rn (version 4.4) and it does not have an option
:that an old version had (version 4.3). The 4.3 version I had an option in
:rn for adding new newsgroups in one shot via a "YN" option.
:I checked several sites for a version with this option without success.
:Does anyone have this version of rn or was this a local hack?

This is certainly in the rn 4.4 that *I* have -- available for
anonymous FTP from lib.tmc.edu.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: Problem building new kernel
Organization: GTE/SCSD - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:18:37 GMT


It's been abou 6 months since I rebuilt the kernel on my machine.....I'm 
having problems with makedep on a SPARC-2 running SunOS 4.1.1.

I modified all the configuration files I needed and tried to do a 
'config SYS_NAME' where SYS_NAME here is GENERIC_PPP.  The result is
shown below:
------------------
rocky:/usr/kvm/sys/sun4c/conf # config GENERIC_PPP
Doing a "make depend"
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `makedep'
-------------------
Now the Makefile in /usr/kvm/sys/sun4c/conf is Makefile.src, which has the 
following for the depend definition:

depend: makedep
        echo '$$r makedep' >>eddep
        rm eddep makedep makedep1 makedeperrs

And makedep says:

makedep: ${CONFFILES} FRC
        @cat /dev/null >makedep
        -(for i in ${CFILES} ${SFILES} ; do \
                ${CPP} -M ${CPPOPTS} ${SYSDIR}/$$i >> makedep; done) \
                2>makedeperrs
        sed \
                -e 's,^.*genassym\.o:,assym.s assym.L:,' \
                -e 's,^\(.*\)\.o:,\1.o \1.L:,' makedep > makedep1
        -(for i in ${CONFFILES} ; do \
                ${CPP} -M ${CPPOPTS} $$i | sed \
                -e 's,^\(.*\)\.o:,\1.o \1.L:,' >>makedep1; done) \
                2>>makedeperrs
        ${AWK} ' { if ($$1 != prev) { print rec; rec = $$0; prev = $$1; } \
                else { if (length(rec $$3) > 78) { print rec; rec = $$0; } \
                       else rec = rec " " $$3 } } \
              END { print rec } ' makedep1 > makedep
        @cat makedeperrs
        @(if [ -s makedeperrs ]; then false; fi)

Any idea why the config fails?  I don't ever remember having a problem
with this.  E-mail replied preferred....

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From: wcon9023@dsacng1.dsac.dla.mil (Frank Hardwick)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: DATA RECOVERY?
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:31:58 GMT
Organization: Defense Logistics Service Center, Battle Creek, MI

From article <BtErtr.5s8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by root@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu:
> Anyone have the number for a good data recovery 
> service?  Alternatively, does anyone know if 
> NORTON UTILS for HPUX is available, and if 
> it is any good?
> 
> Media in question is a crashed WREN8 hard disk...
> Desperate,
> --------  john kemp            (  (  )_  internet - kemp@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu
>   -----                       (  (   __)   decnet - uiatmb::kemp
>    ---    univ of illinois   (_ (   __)    bitnet - {uunet,convex}
>    --     dept of atmos sci  .(____).               !uiucuxc!uiatma!kemp
>    -      105 s gregory ave    ...          phone - (217) 333-6881
>     -     urbana, il 61801    ...             fax - (217) 244-4393
John,

Ihaven't used their service (luckily), but I believe that On-Track 
( the authors of Disk Manager  Software ) offer data recovery services,
complete with Clean room and the whole deal.  I don't have their number with
me as I am out of town on business; but if you can't find it mail/call me
and I will try to help track it down.  

Best O Luck
Frank

______________________________________________________________________________
Frank Hardwick
Wilson Hill Associates, INC>
(616)961-4053
InterNet: wcon9023@dsacng1.dsac.dla.mil

My opinions are not even my own, certainly not anyone elses!!
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Choice of portnumbers
From: wetzels@amc.uva.nl (F.Wetzels)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:51:34 GMT
Organization: Faculty of medicine - University of Amsterdam

Hi,

Portnumbers may vary from 0 upto 65536. In RFC1060 the assignement
of these numbers is listed. The portnumbers >1023 may be freely used.

But if i want to use one of the 65536-1024 portnumbers for a certain
application, how can be sure that a conflict will not be created.
That is: someone else has choosen the same number but implemented for
a different protocol. How do i know this situation will not happen?
And, what portnumber should i use?



Thanks in advance,

Frank
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.shell
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: tcsh
Followup-To: comp.unix.shell
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:13:14 GMT

Followups redirected to comp.unix.shell.

In article <1992Sep1.200153.28380@esds.mdc.com> bonney@esds.mdc.com
(Greg Bonney) writes:

:Somebody just gave me a version of csh called tcsh that allows one to
:do command line editting using the arrow-keys for history, etc. like
:on a VAX.  I haven't got man pages on it yet, and I don't know where
:he got it.  Anybody heard of this, use it, or have comments on it?
:I'll post more information when I learn more myself.

tcsh is a great and wonderful superset of csh.  It is available for
anonymous FTP from tesla.ee.cornell.edu.  I use it daily and like it.
The man page indicates the differences between tcsh and csh -- it's
more than just scrolling up the command stack with arrow keys.

						...Mike


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: Prevent user from editing /etc/passwd
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:58:07 GMT

In article <BtAF2E.G33@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> treincke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tim Reincke) writes:
|schweik@cpp.ob.open.de (Martin Schweikert) writes:

|>I have a user on my SVR3 machine who knows - and must know :-( - the
|>root password.
					       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
					           ^^^^^^^
Note this comment in the original posting  -----------^

|If I were you and had an unauthorized user who knew the root password, I would
|change the root password and send the user a strong warning against such 
|activity.  If the user knew the root password and was messing around with
|important system files (like /etc/passwd), I would suspend his account, no
|questions asked.

Obviously, the user is authorized, but apparently not trustworthy. Further,
it's necessary for some reason to give this user access (I'd prefer that
a few people around here didn't know a couple of passwords, but I work for
them...) and Martin wishes to minimize potential damage.

Think before you flame; we don't know the entire situation. Better to 
answer the question he ask, instead of one he didn't.

I emailed him a suggestion, of course.

-- 
Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
    The most dangerous person in the world is Jessica Fletcher.
        Everywhere she goes, people die.
Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:4836 comp.unix.large:295 comp.sys.sun.admin:6049 comp.misc:3523
From: kann@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Kirk M. Anne)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.misc
Subject: Any clues about IBM mainframe tape conversions?
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:52:18 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

We have been asked to decommission our IBM VM/CMS mainframe.  The committee
that is working on this project has asked me to find out what other sites
do with IBM mainframe tapes for UNIX systems.  I know that 'dd' will read
the tapes, but many of our users have SAS tapes that were created on CMS.
I would like to find some clues to the following questions:

	What do you do when you get tapes from IBM sites?
	What utilities do you use to convert tapes?
	How do you handle SAS tapes created on CMS?
	How do you handle multi-tape data sets?

I will post a summary of the clues that I receive.

Thanks in advance,

Kirk Anne				Internet: kann@troi.cc.rochester.edu
UNIX Consultant				Phone:    (716) 275-2811
Taylor Hall 24				Fax:      (716) 461-1328
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY 14627
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: murphyn@rtsg.mot.com (Neal P. Murphy)
Subject: Re: SECURITY -- How to list files having suid
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:35:18 GMT

jjr@ace.ece.arizona.edu (Jeffrey J. Rodriguez) writes:

>I'd like to do a security check on my SPARCstation (SunOS 4.1.1).
>How can I list all files having suid or sgid set?

find / -type f -depth -print -ls | egrep " -..s| -.....s"

shows all regular files with suid or sgid bits set. It does *not*
look at directories, special files, symbolic links, etc.

You should look at the mode of filesystems, mount points, disk
block special files, disk character special files. None should be
writeable by others. The special files should not be readable
by others. Protecting filesystems and directories is something
I do. preventing access to raw or block disk is good practice.
If others can write to the raw or block device, they can change
the contents of any file on disk. If they can read them, they can
read the contents of files they shouldn't be otherwise able to read.

NPN
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: dlucy@sandr.COM (Douglas Lucy)
Subject: Re: Bulk mailing problem
Organization: S&R Software, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:37:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.152821.9363@walter.cray.com> kjberte@cray.com writes:

>The solution is to put a line in the mail header that says:
>Precedence: bulk

Call me naive, but couldn't you escape the Subject: line on the command
line so that the end of your "subject" was actually 

<newline>Precedence: bulk

I mean:

	mail -s"Layoffs pending, CYA\\nPrecedence: bulk"

Just trying to help......
-- 
[ W. Douglas Lucy, VP Technical Services, S and R Software, Inc. ]
[ dlucy@sandr.COM                                                ]
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: Does yp use a user named `+' with no password?
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:00:10 GMT

shani@GENIUS.TAU.AC.IL (Oren Shani) writes:

>In article <k2.714296613@woodstock> k2@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger) writes:
>>
>>What you have done, was to disable all of them with the '*' in their
>>password fields.
>>

>Nope. What he did is to put a meaningless line in his password file and to
>instruct his system not to use the NIS passwd map (or reather not instructing 
>it to use it).

Incorrect. Klaus Steinberger is correct, atleast where Sun's NIS implementation
is concerend.

>I suggest people should at least read SunOS's System & Network admin book, 
>before they venture to touch /etc files.

I'd suggest people check their facts before they post. This
behaviour (replacing passwd, gecod, home or shell field in a
+ passwd entry) is documented in passwd(5). (And I've used
it and it worked)

Casper
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Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:4837 comp.unix.questions:10638 comp.unix.shell:3762
From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: How to prevent a large core-dump
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:47:28 GMT
    <1992Sep1.150813.1695@impmh.uucp> <1992Sep2.050208.9673@sq.sq.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:

>> 	echo > core
>> 	chmod 0 core
>> Then the program will not produce a core, since the file "core" already
>> exists, but is unwritable (see signal(2)).

>Fine for most purposes, probably including the original query, but wait
>until the day that it's a setuid-root program whose core dumps you want
>to prevent!
>	mkdir core

You won't get a core dump if the executable is stripped.  Am I the only
one who's noticed this?
From: rsnyder@atl.ge.com (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Prevent user from editing /etc/passwd
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:33:45 GMT
Organization: GE Aerospace, Advanced Technology Labs

In article <1992Aug24.172610.15580@cc.ic.ac.uk> cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk writes:

>cp /obscure/etc/passwd /etc/passwd
>
>as part of the boot-up sequence, so that if somebody reconfigures the system
>incompetently (i.e. without reading the instructions on how to do the 
>obscurated files) just rebooting will fix it again.
>
>The actual trigger event could be anything, even a cron job running every 5 
>seconds, and the copying could be done via cpio to copy the whole obscure 
>tree to /.

This, of course, is rather painful if you decide to allow users to change
their password, shell, or user name.

Bob

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: mbs@bae.bellcore.com (Mike Sullivan)
Subject: amd available for SVR4?
Originator: mbs@lobster
Reply-To: mbs@bae.bellcore.com (Mike Sullivan)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway NJ
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 15:42:21 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a version of "amd" for System V Release 4
or Solaris 2.0? I have checked various archive sites and have not been
able to find one. If there isn't one available, then is anyone working
on porting it to SVR4?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: DOS Merge and bundling (was Re: SAS 2.0)
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 14:01:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.180355.20174@sinkhole.unf.edu>
	shite@sinkhole.unf.edu (Stephen Hite) writes:

>>I think ESIX could win more sales if they bundled their OS with
>>Merge,

>  Amen.  The going rate of ~$400 as an add-on is too high, IMHO.

Sheesh, folks, do we have to go through the bundling versus unbundling
thing again? Isn't it enough that buyers have a choice? Isn't that a
better approach than forcing everyone to buy something that many people
clearly do not need?

Much as folks like Larry would not believe it, there are many UNIX users
out there who have no need for DOS partitions, DOS emulation, or
whatever. Giving them a choice of whether to buy Merge bundled or not is
certainly better than forcing the choice, one way or another.
-- 
 Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
   "This Used To Be My Playground" -- Madonna, singing about mens' washrooms
From: mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: SCSI vs fast SCSI
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:46:58 GMT

rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger Cornelius) writes:

} I posted this to comp.periphs.scsi and received zero replies, so
} now I'm trying here.


} In the case of hard disk drives, does fast SCSI provide a significant
} performance increase over plain SCSI?  One controller vendor suggested
} that fast SCSI pushes the envelope and is more succeptible to failure
} and for our purposes will provide no benefit.  Their controller
} supports fast SCSI, but they claim plain SCSI will perform just as
} well for our application (Unix server with disk attached to intelligent
} caching controller).

} Can anyone comment?

I am no expert but as far as I understand it, the difference between
normal and fast SCSI is that with normal SCSI the maximum transfer rate
on the SCSI bus is 5 MB/sec and with fast SCSI this is 10 MB/sec. The 
problem is that the actual speed of your SCSI i/o is determined by
three things :

	1. The speed of your hard disk
	2. The speed of the SCSI bus
	3. The speed of your system bus

Specially the first is the bottleneck of the system. I don't know if
there are any disk with a transfer rate as high as 10 MB/sec. The
advantage of having a SCSI bus with such a high bus speed is that it
will speed up a system when there is more as one SCSI device attached
to the system. The SCSI controller can send simultaneous commands to
several devices and receive there data without running out of bandwidth.

Anyway this how it was explained to me.

} Thanks.
} -- 
} Roger Cornelius            rac@sherpa.UUCP         ...!uunet!sherpa!rac

-- 
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			(..!uunet.uu.net!cs.vu.nl!mjh)
From: wehler@welfa4.elektro.uni-wuppertal.de (Andreas Wehler)
Subject: telnet with controls as ^S^Q
Reply-To: wehler@welfa4.elektro.uni-wuppertal.de (Andreas Wehler)
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:12:07 GMT

Hello,
does someone know how to taw the ^Q ^S keys using telnet
under SCO ODT 1.1 together with emacs? Examples follow:
    from a PC, with tcp/ip from FTP:
         tn ODT_a
         use emacs with ^Q ^S  ... works fine.
    from ODT_b:
         stty raw
         telnet ODT_a
         TERM=ansi; export TERM
         use emacs: ^Q ^S  ignored.  ( ! )
    from ODT_a:
         stty raw
         telnet ODT_b
         TERM=ansi; export TERM
         use emacs: ^Q ^S work fine. ( ! ) 
    from ODT_a:
         stty raw
         telnet apollo_domain_machine
         telnet ODT_a
         use emacs       ... works fine.
    from ODT_a:
         stty raw
         telnet ODT_a   (yes, this is foolish but possible)
         TERM=ansi; export TERM
         use emacs: ^Q ^S  ignored ( ! )

ODT_a and ODT_b both are 1.1, ODT_b may have newer SLSes installed.
The following tests of telnet-options did have no effect:
   set start ^@
   set stop ^@
^S lights up the scroll-light of keyboard, ^Q darkens it again.
Any ideas? Thanks for reading.

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Internet: wehler@welfa4.elektro.uni-wuppertal.de (Andreas Wehler)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386