From: walton@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Michael Walton)
Subject: Re: xians here
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:52:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.143359.21266@panix.com> rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding) writes:

>In <1992Jul29.082659.18765@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> locklin@henry.ece.cmu.edu (Scott Locklin) writes:

>>In response to Ross' request for information as to the philosophy
>>of Satanists; Read Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible. If you don't bother
>>reading the literature of your philosophical enemy you are in NO position
>>to attack their positions as you know not where they stand... Most Satanists
>>are ex-christians; which gives them a at least some kind of idea what 
>>xtian beliefs are (an interesting point;you don't find too many satanists
>>who come from agnostic or atheist families-I'll come back to this later)

>Hmmmm. Quite a few are ex-Christians, but I wonder about "most." 
>Where is your info from?
> 
>>I think THE main point of Satanism is that it is a LIFE-affirming religion
>>this is directly orthoganal to the christian life denying beliefs (the meek 
>>shall inherit the earth & waiting for the afterlife for your pleasures ect)

Jesus came so that we could "have life, and have it more abundantly"

>"Indulgence not abstinence."
> 

Indulgence does not result in freedom, nor does abstinence or any other 
human choice; the ultimate freedom is given by the Spirit of God when we 
invite Him to dwell in us.  He loves every one of us and is waiting for us 
to invite Him in - wherever we are at.  He will meet us - we do not have to 
follow some philosophy or religion to meet Him.

>>Satanism is honesty; we are all animals; lets enjoy it rather than pose as 
>>something we're not.

The love you have - for your friends, family, anyone special to you, 
must surely show you what separates us from animals: our spirit or soul - 
animals may have emotions and intellect of some sort, but not a spirit.  
Satan can speak to your spirit - surely a Satanist knows that?  But God 
loves you.

>Man creates his own gods, not the other way around.

>>Satanism is the use of all the resources available to the human animal;
>>we should develop and strengthen the hidden powers of the mind.

>And let reason rule the earth!

What about the hidden powers of the Spirit: so much more hidden than those 
of the mind, yet so much more powerful.

>>Satanism is self-reliance; we need no gods in our universe we call on the
>>gods within us all.

Satan is a liar: by making you think you can rely on yourself he hardens you 
to the presence of your Creator.

>We do evertything that Gods can do. Create, destroy, indulge, you name it.
> 

Make somebody love you?

>>Another key point to remember is that most Satanists are ex-christians. Some
>>of it probobly has to do with the transition into adulthood;satanism represent
>>a breaking of childhood ties to religion. This does not reduce its significanc
>>in any way;after all how many xtians are xtians because they were brought up 
>>that way? The least you can say about Satanism is that is a conscious
>>choice in its practitioner; this represents a maturity most xtains lack; how
>>many bother to question the tenets of their faith, or even know what they are.

Nobody is "brought up" a Christian, many are brought up in a Christian 
environment (myself included) but becoming a Christian, a servant of Christ 
requires a new birth - a literal rebirth of the spirit within each of us, 
into eternal life - and this is not religious posturing, this is for real. 
We cannot touch or feel or see the spirit inside us.  We can control our 
minds and our emotions, we can hide from love, but can we control it?  I 
believe that every one of us has seen or felt manifestations of that 
spirit that cries out for love like a child, the child that is still 
within us. God is love.  Cry out to God and He WILL answer your call.

>Yeah, but when the fundies become born-again or otherwise CHOOSE their
>religion it's still just as stupid a choice as it would have been otherwise.
>:-)


>>Suggested reading; Prometheus Rising by Robert A Wilson
>>Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey
>>Black Flame and Abrasax magazine...

>You got my support there, pal...

>-- 
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>|  Reuben Radding         rdr@panix.com       cmcl2!panix!rdr  |
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>| ******************* Marrou / Lord in 1992 ****************** | 

In Christ's love,
Mike

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