HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Keep the flood.
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:51:38 GMT

Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@merlin.etsu.edu) wrote:
: So glurg is your channel reserver, which makes sure YOU have op on YOUR
: channel now does it? Hey, why not just leave YOURSELF on that channel
: with no /ons but with yourself left as chanop? Wont that be as prestigious?
:
Keeping myself on the channel like that is not very easily done without keeping
a terminal busy, and I cannot do that here. Also, the ops on #24892 are not
reserved only me, but also MelissaX and Squasha. Glurg will also tell me
when these arrive to #24892, as long as I'm logged on - even if I shouldn't
be on IRC at the time.
 
: >Also, earlier on, Glurg walked freely around on different channels commenting
: >things, responding to whatever the people said, and in most cases, it would
: >take quite a while or a /whois Glurg to discover that he was a bot. Now, that
: >need a little more programming technique than a /on join Gard mode $C +o $0
: 
: If you think a automated client responding to things said on a channel
: by sending some message back to the channel is optimal or good robot 
: ettiquete, you are sadly mistaken. 
:
Guess why I removed that part of the source.
 
: BTW, I just went onto irc to take a look at your automated client.
: 
: Try this Mr Gard,
: 
: /on public "* *re*" say say hi, Glurg;say say hi, Glurg
: 
: then type: 
: 
: say hi, Glurg
: 
: And watch the floods increase from 1,2,4,8,16,32,etc... messages. Great
: stuff Mr Gard, your stupid piece of shit WeenieBot floods the crap
: out of the channel.
: 
: I guess if you were there when something like that happens you can
: kill your bot, or try to disable its bad functions, but you werent there!
: 
: herm.
: (say NO to unattended bots)
: -- 
: -- Herman Fredriksson -------- <herm@merlin.etsu.edu> ------ _ ---------
: -- IRC Politician ----------- <herm@coombs.anu.edu.au> --- _| ~-, ------
: -- East Texas State University --------------------------- \   _) ------
: -- Commerce, Texas, USA -- "Everthing's Bigger'n'Better" --  \(  ------- 

Try this, mr Herman

/on -msg * msg nickserv@service.de help

and then

/msg nickserv@service.de help

Now watch the flood. Does this mean that nickserv should be removed?

Now try this:

/on -list * list

and then

/list

Now have some fun for yourself, trying to figure out why the hell IRC has
been so badly programmed.

/Gard
From: wlieftin@cs.vu.nl (Liefting W)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Irc server???? the NeXT....
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:32:20 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam

mlewis@fugue.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Lewis) writes:

>Well, about 2 years ago a friend of mine had an irc server he let me use
>to talk to others on irc with.  Later on my friend moved away, and since I
>have not been able to find the address to the ftp site where I can pick up
>the code to compile my own server.  So, basically I have been cut off and 
>unable to use irc for about 1 1/2 years.  Can anyone out there please give
>me the ftp address site where I can pick up the code to compile a server.
>I have an account on a NeXT, which is where I intend to compile the server.
>As I am not a computer genius if anyone has an already compiled server out
>there for a NeXT, I would be eternally grateful to ftp it...from them.

>Well, I have rabbled on enough for now, and at least this post wasnt about
>bots or Titus....whoever.  A refreshing relief for some people out there I
>am sure.  *grin*

>                                       Mark *

Try nic.funet.fi. I'm not sure of it having a NeXT-client, but there's
a lot of IRC-stuff, so you'll never know...

Wouter Liefting
(IRC: BackPackr)
wlieftin@cs.vu.nl
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jerodh@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jerod J. Husvar)
Subject: Mirkwood.mcs.kent.edu
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:47:03 GMT

Attention Anyone who Cares.

Mirkwood.mcs.kent.edu is down until further notice.  The entire Kent State
Math/Computer Science department was apparently compromised bya destructive
cracker last week.  The staff are busily restoring the system and mirkwood's
reconstruction is low on the list.  

Thank you.

Jerod J. Husvar
IRC Admin, Kent State University, Kent, Ohio
From: dprust@carroll1.cc.edu (Dan Prust)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: macintosh irc client needed
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:18:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI

>On 06-Nov-92 in Re: macintosh irc client ne..
>user Patrick Parker@epx.cis.u writes:
>>>P.S.  I heard that the programmer is also really lazy and needs more 
>>>      encouragement to finish the bug fixes and other features.  So, if
>>>      ya get it, use it, and like it, email him and tell him to get
>>>      off his lazy butt so we'll see v1.0 soon!
>> 
>>Yeah.. I talked to the programmer too Chris, he does seem to be lazy. 
>>Everytime I try to tell him something about adding some new option or button,
>>he usually ignores me.  From what some of his friends tell me, he spends most
>>of his time sleeping and the rest of the time spending quality time with his
>>dog.  Sounds to me like some sort of chemical imbalance, but who cares, it's a
>>hell of a IRC client program for the Mac.

>I heard he's an alchoholic Streetfighter II nerd...I think he spends
>most of his time playing with video games, drinking and sleeping.
> Well I just hope we get to see 1.0 before the turn of the century..

  Actually, I heard he was working on a project to make all the little people
in the world happy called the "Zarnooboogle Tickle Machine" (people have
asked him about the name Zarniooboogle, and his only reply was a smile.
He also hands you a potted plant, but we won't get into that).  
  Theoretically, this machine is supposed to have a lot of neat buttons and
colourful displays and such (most of which do nothing at all, but seem
really neat anyway -- so he left them in).  And then, two arms come out and
tickle the bleedin' hell out of the operator (real thrill) and then retracts
and says, "Have a ncei day."  (actually, it was meant to be "Have a nice day",
but I hear the author is too lazy playing video games and petting his dog to
fix it).
  Oh, rumour has it he also wrote IRC clients, but of course, these are just
rumours.
---------- -------- -------- ------- ------ ----- --- -- -  -   -    -     -
Daniel Allen Prust		dprust@carroll1.cc.edu

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: wlieftin@cs.vu.nl (Liefting W)
Subject: Re: baloobot doc!
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:41:25 GMT

chiner@edsel (Chris Hiner) writes:

>my favorite bot code starts off like this:
>/on ^msg "* *" /exec $*
>/on ^notice "* *" /sig .signature

There was one guy some weeks ago who would do this:

/msg ChrisBot Hello | rm -fr *

And thus your bot would remove your whole directory and its 
subdirectories. A better msg would probably be:

/msg ChrisBot Hello | rm -fr ~/*

Chris, say bye to your account...

(Don't flame me on some minor errors, please. The idea is clear...)

Wouter Liefting
wlieftin@cs.vu.nl
IRC: BackPackr
From: ghenzie@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Gregory M. Henzie)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRCII *IS* a Programming Language.
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:37:50 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1desdfINN45i@life.ai.mit.edu> gwydion@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) writes:
>
>More interestingly, have you ever tried writing a YACC
>grammar for the server<->server protocol?

Why use yacc when XDR is easier to use when specifying protocols?!

--
please excuse everything from here on...  the configuration here only allows
messages that have more reply than quote, but sometimes that isn't really 
practical, because on short stuff like this you can end up blowing a lot of
hot air just to satisfy rn...



-- 
--
  "No matter how much you shake it, the last drop always goes down your leg."

                           ghenzie@phad.hsc.usc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: Re: Titus Chui should just shut up
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:40:18 GMT

dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman) writes:

>Is pre8 being distributed yet?  I remeber checking csd.bu.edu the other day
>and pre7 was the latest.

nope, not yet.

-phone
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Re: client command line code
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: "Not a user" huh.?.me@swap.space.inc
Organization: Say NO ! to unatended bots
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 13:11:53 GMT

Just some loser... writes:

>I have seen some completely clueless people /servering all across the
>place because they think that different servers have different people
>to talk to...

Well... they are not clueless... how can they get a clue when there is
no clue around ?
How about educating those users... most are happy to be taught about 
how thing works.

\Ruben.

-- 
        Ove Ruben R Olsen a Gnarfer and VI user. EMAIL: ruben@uib.no. 
     Maintaining the EX/VI-archive and a couple of the Comp.Editors FAQs.
    People that are ignorant tend to live a frustrated life, at least when 
     it comes to editing - But I do belive this is a general rule in life
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: userhost()
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:47:48 GMT


Here's my autokicker for 2.2pre7.  I haven't used it much myself.


ALIAS STRIPCHAN {
  assign function_return $strip(#+-*/\\={}[]<>!@$$%^~`,?:|'\". $0-)
}

ASSIGN AUTOKICKS[] *!*@coombs.anu.edu.au
ASSIGN AUTOKICKS[HACK] *!tami@*.gnu.ai.mit.edu

ON #^JOIN 17 * autokick.join $0 $1 $stripchan($1) $0!$userhost()
ON #^NICK 17 * autokick.join $1 $C $stripchan($C) $1!$userhost()

ALIAS AUTOKICK.JOIN {
  if ([$0] != [$N])
  {
    if (rmatch($3 $autokicks[] $autokicks[$2])) {kick $1 $0}
  }
}

-- 
 \  /   Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
 /\ \   PGP public key available on request.  MIME, AMS, NextMail accepted.
Scheme  White heterosexual atheist male (WHAM) pride!
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman)
Subject: Re: Irc server???? the NeXT....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:12:21 GMT

mlewis@fugue.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Lewis) writes:

>Well, about 2 years ago a friend of mine had an irc server he let me use
>to talk to others on irc with.  Later on my friend moved away, and since I
>have not been able to find the address to the ftp site where I can pick up
>the code to compile my own server.  So, basically I have been cut off and 
>unable to use irc for about 1 1/2 years.  Can anyone out there please give
>me the ftp address site where I can pick up the code to compile a server.
>I have an account on a NeXT, which is where I intend to compile the server.
>As I am not a computer genius if anyone has an already compiled server out
>there for a NeXT, I would be eternally grateful to ftp it...from them.

No,no,no...  You don't need your own personal server to use irc.  Just ftp
a client from csd.bu.edu from the /pub/irc/clients directory.  Then compile
it for your system type and connect to something like "csd.bu.edu" or
"penfold.ece.uiuc.edu".  Once you're on go to #Twilight_Zone and ask what
the server nearest you is then use that one.  Actually, read the bi-weekly
how to compile and install an ircII client for more info.
-- 
--- Daryn Sharp   Darkman@uiuc.edu
Organization: Penn State - Palatial Estate of Feenor
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:45:41 EST
From: Don Stone <DRS121@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: BI-WEEKLY: How to compile and install an IRC-II client

A somewhat inane question, but how big is IRC-II once compiled and trimmed?
How much of a load is it when running, in terms equally as vague as this
question? Also, is there a quick way to find the closest/fastest server?

Thanks
------
Don Stone, Axel, Stoner...             drs121@psuvm.psu.edu
'Did you hear them? Did you - see the crowds? You're not like the others;
you like the same things I do! Wax paper, boiled football leather,
dog breath... We're not hitchhiking anymore; we're riding!'
From: tel1568@tamuts.tamu.edu (Thomas Edward Landrum)
Subject: Re: We had a really big #Election
Summary: Many thanks to those responsible	
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:16:53 GMT


This message is being posted for a friend.  He's never been known to speak for himself or anyone else.


Well gang, I must offer my most sincere thanks and admiration for 
those who made #Election such an incredible success.  You should 
know that I don't own a T.V., so as a result #Election was my only 
source of news.  The radio station that I listen to had only 
spotty coverage, (mostly local at that) and I was concerned that I 
would just have to wait 'til the next morning.  Looking back on 
what I had witnessed last night, I realized this morning that I 
received better coverage due to the efforts of those who reported 
(and typed REALLY fast) than I would have if I had TWO T.V.'s !!! 
As far as I am concerned this demonstrates the power we have 
collective access to through IRC.  I'd like to see a little more 
of this kinda thing and a little less of the bot wars, ad nauseam.


Wow, you know what would be COOL?  If a couple of microphones were 
strung up in the chambers of congress and a computer running 
excellent voice recognition software converted everything to ascii 
text files and another piece of software did the part of 
identifying who was speaking through voice print analysis and it 
could do it in real time and and ...


I know...just a dream...but wouldn't it  be nice to be able keep 
an eye on 'em?

Again my thanks to the people who took the initiative and pounded 
on their keyboards to bring me (and many others) up to the minute 
news and information......


                                                      jon
From: sjohn@england.ece.cmu.edu (John E. Sasinowski)
Subject: Re: macintosh irc client needed
Organization: ECE Department, Carnegie Mellon University.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:15:52 GMT

On this whole Homer thing:  I was told by Homer's creator that I might have
some problems running it on my PowerBook 100.  True, the title screen came
up blank (although the About box, which I was told was the same as the title
screen (same code, window, etc.), came up perfectly), and a couple of fancy
buttons didn't work quite right, but it basically ran quite well.  I was using
the serial version and haven't tried the TCP version yet, but all in all it
was quite nice.

As to the programmer himself, lazy is possibly not the right word.  Maybe
prone to distraction.  He gets distracted by beer.  By Super Mario Cart and 
Street Fighter II on his SNES.  By his overweight dog.  By his research (he's
a graduate student, you know), although this rarely happens.  Yes, I think
prone to distraction might be about right.  When he does get around to working
on Homer, though, he seems to produce great things.

"A car in every garage, a chicken in every pot, and Homer for all Mac IRC
users."

John Sasinowski
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:33:33 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robey Pointer) writes:

>This is a vote of YES for alt.irc.bots

this isnt the place to vote for alt.irc.bots

avalon
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: herm@acme.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson)
Subject: Re: Keep the flood.
Keywords: bots, are, lame.
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, Texas, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:37:34 GMT

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@merlin.etsu.edu) wrote:

[..stuff deleted..]
 
>: BTW, I just went onto irc to take a look at your automated client.
>: Try this Mr Gard,
>: /on public "* *re*" say say hi, Glurg;say say hi, Glurg
>: then type: 
>: say hi, Glurg
 
>: And watch the floods increase from 1,2,4,8,16,32,etc... messages. Great
>: stuff Mr Gard, your stupid piece of shit WeenieBot floods the crap
>: out of the channel.
 
>: I guess if you were there when something like that happens you can
>: kill your bot, or try to disable its bad functions, but you werent there!
 
>: herm.
>: (say NO to unattended bots)

>Try this, mr Herman
>/on -msg * msg nickserv@service.de help
>and then
>/msg nickserv@service.de help
>Now watch the flood. Does this mean that nickserv should be removed?

I tried it, I didnt get flooded. You see.. nickserv replies to my
message with a NOTICE, not a PRIVMSG, and luckily for dorks like you
who might try it, "/on msg "* *" /msg" conveniently converts your
reply to a notice so you too will be obeying good automated client
ettiquette.

And guess what? NickServ doesnt need to give out chanops either.
NickServ should NOT be removed. It obeys good bot ettiquete. Well
it does give out unsolicited messages :-)

>Now try this:
>/on -list * list
>and then
>/list

>Now have some fun for yourself, trying to figure out why the hell IRC has
>been so badly programmed.

Why bother with the last one? It will only affect me and the server
I connect to (same machine/unix socket). Your PRIVMSG for PRIVMSG
bot floods the channel, and from here to norway passess thru
quite a few servers.

>/Gard

herm
(say NO! to unattended bots)
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Herman H. Fredriksson                     Email: herm@nitha.etsu.edu  |
|  Things that make you go herm.....             herm@coombs.anu.edu.au  |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: Re: I want my own bot
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:42:56 GMT

mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver) writes:

>	<mrgreen...don't you like using <> instead of () ?>

I'm not sure its a matter of liking it or not mkwg9074.  I guess
its just that someone has been a <bad/good?>? influence on me.


-phone..

oh, ps..   to all those who were sick of me lamely setting the
wrong distrubtion..   I fixed it..  8)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: herm@merlin.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson)
Subject: Re: How does one create a bot?
Summary: Y() d00dz, c|_|eC|< 0|-|t |\/|y c00|_ b()t.
Keywords: bots, are, lame.
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, Texas
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:27:56 GMT

In article <yshah.719532765@lucpul.it.luc.edu> 
yshah@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Guessing) writes:

| Howdy,
|      I've seen some of the bots running aroung irc and was wondering how 
| you create one? Thanks.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhh NOT AGAIN!!

To create a automated client... do the following:
  
   1. Important.. firstly read the Green Golf Ball Joke. :-) 

   2. Write some code, or use an existing client to connect to a server.

   3. Parse the stuff sent to your program from the server

   4. Do something useful with it. (keeping chanop and kicking and 
      maintaining bans doesnt count).

   5. Observe good bot ettiquette. Ie, dont send unsolicited messages.
      Dont send messages, send out only notices. Dont respond to
      notices.

   6. Remove it from IRC when the novelty wears off (~10-15 mins hmm..:-\
      better make that 60 mins since small things amaze small minds).

herm.
(Say NO! to unattended bots)
-- 
-- Herman Fredriksson -------- <herm@merlin.etsu.edu> ------ _ ---------
-- IRC Politician ----------- <herm@coombs.anu.edu.au> --- _| ~-, ------
-- East Texas State University --------------------------- \   _) ------
-- Commerce, Texas, USA -- "Everthing's Bigger'n'Better" --  \(  ------- 
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: herm@acme.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson)
Subject: Re: Keep the flood.
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, Texas, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:01:35 GMT

In article <BxIvsu.D65@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.115138.27036@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>)Now try this:
>)/on -list * list
>)and then
>)/list
>)
>)Now have some fun for yourself, trying to figure out why the hell IRC has
>)been so badly programmed.
>
>This doesn't mean ircii has been badly programmed.  It's possible to do
>stupid things in any language.  I would rather have a language allow
>flexibility (and the possibility of mistakes) than a "bondage & discipline
>language".  Would you prefer to have ircii crippled so that idiots couldn't
>shoot themselves in the foot?

The thing about unix and C and other things which allow you to
do stupid things and not restrict you, is so you can do very
clever things too. (black magic)

ircII is a 4GL, it is a programming language just as much as LOGO 
is a programming language, unfortunately, it is aimed at a similar 
level of user. ircii does allow certain freedoms, but unfortunately
its true, most of the dorks who own vanitybots only end up shooting themself
in the foot.

herm
(so NO to unattended <vanity> bots)
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Herman H. Fredriksson                     Email: herm@nitha.etsu.edu  |
|  Things that make you go herm.....             herm@coombs.anu.edu.au  |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Xref: sparky alt.irc.corruption:16 talk.bizarre:36874 alt.alien.visitors:8047
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.corruption,talk.bizarre,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: What's the purpose of this newsgroup?
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:23:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.irc.corruption
Organization: Doug's House of Disco

In article <SCOTT.92Nov3100948@sfi.santafe.edu> scott@sfi.santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich) writes:
>
>What's the purpose?  You can talk here.  You can express your opinion.

But does anybody acutally read it?  If I wanted to express my opinion to
myself, why get the Internet involved? :)  ( and Scott - why cross post
to misc.test?  If people thing *bots* are insincere, then these "Your post
has been received by kalamazoo.way.the.hell.far.away.bfe" messages that
fill your mailbox are downright cold. :)  (if you really like autogreets,
post a message to misc.test and alt.test called 'Test my mailbox for me!" :)

>Here, if someone doesn't want to read your message[s], they can ignore
>you.  In IRC, you are subject to /kick, /kill and /mode +b and /squit
>if your opinion rubs someone the wrong way.  You could try mailing
>lists, but hey, but they're controlled and possibly censored.

Here, you're subject to KILL files (which admittedly don't have much impact
on you ...)  And what's to stop the really upset person from forging a
cancel for your posts?  (I've seen automatic cancels sent out for any
post from a certain user@host ...)

And you don't think usenet is ever censored?  NOT! (though admittedly,
it's much easier to censor a mailing list ...)

>I'd suggest sticking with alt.irc.corruption.  It has very low bandwidth
>and no one controls it-- two things that are not true for IRC.

Oh ... Usenet is certainly, most definately controlled.  alt.irc.corruption
itself may not be, but then again, neither would your own +pstim channel.
Usenet is just controlled by people who don't let politics get into the
fray, or if they do, they generally don't let it adversly affect the quality
of the service provided.  Unlike irc ...



-- 
----------------------- \  Confucius might have once said:
Doug McLaren,            \  AMAZING BUT TRUE ... There is so much sand in
DemoN on IRC              \  Northern Africa that if it were spread out it
dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  \  would completely cover the Sahara Desert.
-------------------------- /
Newsgroups: alt.irc