From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Re: Sitting Down
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:01:08 GMT
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> From: garyb@pdx015 (Gary Brown)
> Subject: Re: Re: Sitting Down
> 
	Hmmm, Gaz, Gaz, Gaz (that's an affectionate Aussie term for your
	name Gary ;-)  ...... I thought long and hard about your concerns
	and quite frankly my boy, I was truly upset and surprised that 
	you were upset enough to post your strong note....I don't get 
	rec.motorcycles (just dirt), so I'm not sure what it's like, but if 
	it's contains light hearted and harmless funnies like the last couple 
	of postings along with good info like r.m.d, well, maybe I should get 
	it....(no that's not a dig, I'm serious).

	r.m.dirt's great. I have the impression that we're all a bunch of
	good, solid people bonded by a common, healthy interest (dirt bikes).
	What I've often found with dirt bikers though is a remarkable ability 
	to interpret situations and conversations in a light hearted and
	down to earth way that I find refreshing. There's that wonderful 
	knack of being able to come up with a quick, cheeky answer to any
	thing. Bet you don't find it amoungst die hard Sierra club
	members....

	Filthy language? Ok, some rude words...including the F word..ummm,
	maybe we've taken it for granted that we (and I've taken the
	liberty of saying we) can speak with our friends in r.m.d in the 
	same way we speak with our other friends.. (my mum doesn't say the
	F word though).

	Filthy subjects? err... I'm going to have trouble with this. I'm
	kind of human and I'll agree to disagree that what I've read is
	filthy. Haven't seen any mention of maps of Tasmania (an island
	just off the S.Eastern tip of Oz that's shaped like ..er..umm..
	well never mind...).  Hey!! I know! Let's make the subject of
	girls and boys something really sleazy and unpalleteable. Let's 
	outcast it and relegate such talk to the back of the school sheds by 
	disaproving of any mention of it (whether stated or implied) amoungst 
	us r.m.d.'ers...sorry, you've hit on a raw nerve... A sterile 
	existence just ain't what dirt bikers (both female and male) are all 
	about in their very own news group...'course, it isn't socially 
	acceptable to talk about naughty things to complete strangers.

	Bunch of perverts? gee ... I was called a pervert the last time
	I was in the US. When we were talking about the responsibility of 
	bringing up kids, I mentioned that whilst in the shower with my 3
	year old son, I taught him how to properly wash his uncircumsised
	penis....Kind of threw me back that there really is such a
	cultural difference. But I digress...See it's dificult to stifle a 
	persons attraction to other people. I don't think a bit of school 
	yard humour really makes us perverts. I can't recall anything
	perverse though....maybe the latex undies stuff was borderline,
	but I recall I got a laugh out of reading it...by golly, I think I
	even posted one of 'em.

	Dirt bikers having a bad reputation?  Well, I certainly agree
	here. Bet my next pay check that the bikers that give us this
	reputation can't don't read nor post to r.m.d. 
		   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
		   See! I learnt that visible 's aren't just bad tty
		   settings...Thanks David...and apologies to you Bob.
		   ....God is good and the grass is green....

	Offending people? Tricky subject here...How far can you go before
	you start offending others? Can you go so far as to offend a
	minority whilst still keeping the majority satisfied? Are you
	really offending the minority or are they misinterpreting what
	they've read/heard/seen/felt/tasted/thought? Regardless, we should
	watch it now because we've seen the first signs of protest, and
	the last thing we need as dirt bikers is to alienate any of our
	friends in r.m.d.....besides, I want to hit on a few of you for a
	ride when I'm over in the US in Feb.....hint..hint... And no Tim
	Zantow, you aren't going to escape your offer....

	Alright, apologies are due.....this has nothing to do with dirt
	bikes, but it has a lot to do with the tone of r.m.d. I'll raise 
	my hand for keeping the light hearted flavour of r.m.d that we've 
	grown to know and love.....as long as there's no more dribble about 
	how many times people voted for r.m.h.  ;-)

	Hey, did you hear the one about the dirt biker who came across
	this naked.....err, never mind...

	Cheers all,
	George C.

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