From: drinnen@deakin.OZ.AU (Philip Shead)
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Subject: Re: 1980s Dream Teams Matchup
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:48:58 -0600
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In article <1993Jan22.062631.5338@marlin.jcu.edu.au> ccjwm@marlin.jcu.edu.au (John Miller) writes:
>In article <199301210612.AA26521@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> drinnen@deakin.edu.au (Philip Shead) writes:
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>One of the best efforts yet IMHO  but I'd bat Bradman at three and maybe
>replace Richards with Everton Weeks (Sp.)  Richards failed when he

                               Weekes of course has an impressive record
and in fact there is an article in the November international cricketer
his figures are impressive but of course with World XI's in more a case
of which XI you pick at the time. I guess you could pick 4 World XI's
and still end up with great teams.
>played for Queensland and I'll never forgive him for that. :-)  I don't
>know much about Weeks but someone posted his record recently and its
>very impressive.  My dad reckons he was great.   Graeme Pollock or
>may also be preferred to Richards.   I'd probably have Gavaskar and/or

 I must admit I was thinking more of the 1970's Vivi Richards especailly
the 1976 model. As for S.G. Barnes I guess more matches were probably
need to determine his exact ability. Still wouldn't it be great to have
two Sid Barnes on the field. I suppose Richards would be in the same
boat as Barnes having only played 4 tests. Of course Ponsford has a great high
scoring record. 
>Barry Richards in place of one or both of S.G. Barnes and Ponsford.
>
>>A found a bit of trouble with Wicket keepers because although you always
>>hear of the great number of stumpings from early keepers but they
>>had greater spinners to keep to. 
>
>I would pick Alan Knott ahead of Marsh I think.  Still not much in it.

Knott, of course how did he slip by me, I was investigating some of the
earlier keepers with respect to Marsh and Knott slipped my mind.
>
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>>A nice mix of bowlers I thought with O'Reilly's medium pace and Sobers
>>spin provided the relief from Barnes' swing, Hadlee's skill and Holding and
>>Millers' pace. Miller gets to be captain from Sobers.

 Didn't say much about Miller who I think is underrated (maybe just unmentioned)
and Richie Benaud reckons he was a good captain which was why I made him 
captain.
>
>For pace, I'd pick Larwood, Tyson, Roberts, or Thomsen ahead of Holding
>much as I liked Holding's beautifully fluid action.

I guess I'm biased by my favourtism for Holding of the West Indian bowlers.
>
>Its real tough to pick the all-time greatest team.
True, especailly when very few (any?) have seen every cricketer ever.
>>
>>As for an Australian team in England
>>how about

[my australian team was here]
Intersting to note that Langer was in fact first reserve for any
middle order bat. Unfortunate that it was an injury to Martyn and
he did not in fact replace the worst of the middle order bats Steve Waugh.
>>Taylor is out considering he average 29 in 1992, and his average is on the way
>
>Yes!!!!  And he should never play in the one day team again, even if his 

Agreed on Taylor in one-dayers. I would even have Zoehrer open in them a chance.
Try to be a bit unorthordox without bringing in undeserving players.
>first-class average does improve.  We need someone who can push the score
>along early to open in the one-dayers.  Hayden's probably a good candidate
>as might be Steve Small of NSW.

 Small is 38 and has no technique, I don't where you could get the idea. I
mean his age just make it prohibitive and he has also been dropped from
NSW team because of form.
>
>>down since being about 60 at the end of 89/90 season.
>>Zoehrer for Healy is simple.
>
>Disagree.  Six of one, half a dozen of the other IMHO.  Go for Healy
>for his enthusiasm.

And his inferoir batting, worse keeping and constant appealing. I'm still 
waiting for him to appeal when the ball is caught by a spectator!
>
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>
>Simon O'Donnell should go for the one-days. 

No definetely not.Form does not warrent his inclusion and in England I don't
think he should be in the 17
I think Julian could be the replacement for O'Donnell in the one-day teams,
in fact I would suggest that the Australian team for the last two finals
should have included the 7 batsmen, and not one of the bowlers. With
the two Waughs,Border and Martyn they could get through 10 overs.
As it was Australia's batting was found to be inadequate.

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