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From: dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu (saki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: SHE LOVES YOU #1 ???
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:18:13 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management

In article <1992Apr15.031700.10827@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> ostroy@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Dan Ostroy ) writes:
>Can it be that "SHE LOVES YOU" was not released as a single in 1964.???
>I have no real reference material at hand, and I am speaking only from personal
>memory, but I distinctly recall that SLY knocked IWTHYH out of the number one
>position in early spring of 64 and went on to set a record for consecutive
>weeks at #1 as well as being the monster-hit of the year.   (According to the
>1992 Hallmark Beatles calendar hanging on my wall, SLY hit #1 on March 21.)
>
>(Our European friends will recall that in the US, SLY was re-released after
>IWTHYH, the original release having flopped.)

"She Loves You" was indeed a single release in the US in 1964, but also
in 1963 (September 21...it made very little impression on anyone in the
US at this stage, though the invincible Murray the K of WINS in New York
had the sense to play it that early.) Its label was, however, Swan Records,
not Capitol; Capitol had passed on the opportunity to bring this unique
song to the American market. Though Swan's 1963 release hadn't made much
of an impression, they retained the right to re-release "She Loves You",
which they did in January 1964, possibly sensing (as anyone with ears
could do) that there was a musical revolution afoot. The Swan issue
entered the Biillboard charts on 25 January 1964 and reached Number One
during the week of 21 March 1964, displacing "I Want To Hold Your Hand",
which had held the Number One position for seven weeks already.
--
"Listen to this! I'm going to give it expression as well."
-------------------------------------------------------------
saki (dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu)
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: On the One Hand
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:18:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: transfer.1902
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Apr5.164949.26897@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> alex@drax (Alex Measday) writes:
>A Jan92 discussion of Ringo's handedness went haywire based on an 
>inexact and incomplete quote from Ringo's Yellow Submarine.  Ringo 
>said, "Ok, I used to get put down in the press a lot for my "silly
>fills" as we liked to call them. 

etc...

>The Musician magazine quote (supplied by Bruce 
>Dumes, 8Jan92) was surely an inaccurate transcript of what Ringo 
>really said.
>
>Don Sauter

Alex,

Please ask Don what his conclusions are about Ringo's handedness then!

By the way, the Musician magazine article was NOT a transcription from
Ringo's Yellow Submarine, but an interview with Musician.  I don't believe
that we are in a position to say that they transcribed incorrectly in
their interview.

Bruce 




-- 
Bruce Dumes			| "Bruce is too obsessed with the Beatles"   |
Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
bad@sw.stratus.com              
508-460-2816
From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: STONES Rock N Roll Circus (was Re: Beatles and The Who)
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:59:51 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1899@transfer.stratus.com> bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.034044.27041@cc.uow.edu.au> kp@cc.uow.edu.au (Karen Pepper) writes:
>>
>>If you keep this up I shall be forced to tell the story about
>>the time my grandmother wore Little Richard's pyjama top.
>>
>>
>>* Karen Pepper                  *                                     *
>
>Didn't everybody's grandmother do that?
>
>Bruce
>
take that back about my granny!
>
-Denise
********************                                                          
"If you can't say something nice...don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER       |
                   
             
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: rshapiro@arris.com (Richard Shapiro)
Subject: Re: Beatles influence on REM?
Organization: ARRIS Pharmaceutical, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:16:43 GMT

In article <32304@darkstar.ucsc.edu> chelle@cats.ucsc.edu (Mavourine Tesoro) writes:
>anyway, i was noticing that some of the guitar riffs --
>particularly on _If I Needed Someone_ -- sound particularly
>REM-ish.  'anyone know if the guitarist in REM has ever
>confessed to have come under the influence of the Beatles?


In the early days, at least, REM was *heavily* influenced by The
Byrds, which is what I think you're detecting here. The intro to IINS
is likewise pretty heavily indebted to The Byrds guitar sound. Of
course The Byrds themselves, like most other mid 60s bands, were
influenced by earlier Beatles records (also by The Searchers et al).
But if you're thinking about direct rather than indirect influences,
REM doesn't owe much to The Beatles, while they owe lots to The Byrds.



Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: 58pyneba@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Dude)
Subject: Re: _Beatle Recording Sessions_
Organization: wmich
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:53:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.195346.149691@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Here we go now...) writes:
> It should be mandatory for members of this list to buy/borrow/rent/steal
> a copy of _Beatle Recording Sessions_.  Paul screaming "I have blisters on
> my fingers"???
> 
> It's all in there, folks.  Maybe we can save bandwith in the meantime.
> 
> -- 
> 
> +-| Paul M. Lewis, six damn credits short: SCREW L.U. |---+-| Looking for: |-+
> |'I'd love to turn you on.'                 -The Beatles  | Cover Up         |
> |'You should be with us, feeling like we do -Perry Farrell|   by Gary Shaw   |
> | like you love to, but never will again.'                | JFK titles       |
> |'You never had the answers!'               -Ministry     |   by R. Cutler   |
> |'You can't be what you were.'              -Fugazi       | Muchmore 8mm     |

You could *ALSO* save bandwidth by posting messages with shorter .sigs than
the message itself (ah-hem).  I think the suggestion that all people read
Lewisohn's book before they post is absolutely ludicrous.  While I *do* own
"THE BOOK", I have not memorized its entire contents, and probably have not
even read it cover to cover (gasp!).  Bringing up topics already discussed
in "THE BOOK" often stimulates further and more detailed discussion.  An
example of this is the fascinating posts on the "Strawberry Fields" edit(s).
Lewisohn presents a small synopsis of the edit(s), but seeing the posts by
people who actually *own* the various takes of the song on the _Unsurpassed
Masters_ CD's was thrilling.  I have even printed out some of the *better
posts* on this subject and have inserted them in "THE BOOK".  (IMO, if you
*REALLY* want to save bandwidth, let's discontinue these "1-liner-trying-to-
be-cute-or-witty-irrelevant-off-the-cuff-bullshit-commentary" posts like
"How Many Holes does it Take to Fill the Albert Hall"; and then the 
buzillion "1-liner-followups" that occur to it.  Just my $.02.)

					Gary in Kalamazoo
From: cosc15xo@Rosie.UH.EDU
Subject: George On CBS News
Reply-To: cosc15xo@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:41:19 GMT

Just saw George on CBS News talking about the New Something party in
England.  I believe they showed a clip of him in concert.  Anyway,
the party is running a Jerry Brown type campaign in England.  George
was also sporting a mustache.

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson)
Subject: Re: BeatleTrivia
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 02:55:09 GMT

In article <740015@hpwrce.HP.COM> dennis@hpwrce.HP.COM (Dennis Alstrand) writes:
>
>>
>>      O.K.  Since you're all Beatle experts out there, answer this one:
>>
>>           How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall?
>
>The interesting part about this is that Lennon DID mean how many 'assholes'
>it takes to fill the Albert Hall.  The line is taken from an article in,
>I believe, the London Daily Mail from 1967.  The article stated that there
>was about one pot hole in Blackburn, Lancashire per person - or four thousand.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Zeroing in on an rmb .sig - something from Early 1970 by Ringo
>-Dennis
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, I think the article said that there was one hole for every 26 Black-
burn residents.  But I'm not sure Lennon was implying that all Blackburn 
residents were assholes...(I've been there; they didn't seem like bad folks...)

				Nat Pearson
				raindrop@leland.stanford.edu

P.S.  This seems like kind of an inane subject anyway.
From: mccombj@reis4.alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Shared Vocals (was Re: Lennon/McCartney)
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:08:41 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College

In article <1992Apr9.150619.562@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>  
rgp39716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rahul G. Patwari) writes:

> In how many Beatles's songs was there a sharing of lead vocals, i.e. 
> "A Day In The Life" where Paul get's to sing the middle section?  I  
can't
> think of any others (I only have _Help!_ and beyond, though).

Let's see... Just off the top of my head:
"I've Got a Feeling" (at least that last part...)

Shoot!  I'm stumped on this one!
Can anyone else out there help?

Joe McCombs	(mccombj@alleg.edu)
From: rgranvil@bbn.com (Robert A. Granville)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Discography
Date: 15 Apr 1992 13:15:27 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: rgranvil@vax.bbn.com (Robert A. Granville)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

The following is the LP discography for the Beatles for the USA and
the UK, compiled from "The Compleat Beatles" up to early 1980. All USA
releases are Capitol/Apple unless otherwise noted; all UK releases are
Parlophone/Apple unless otherwise noted. For those who don't know, the
album "The Beatles" is the so-called "White Album," "The Beatles
1962-1966" is the "Red Album," and "The Beatles 1967-1970" is the
"Blue Album". 

USA
Introducing the Beatles (Vee Jay) 7/63
Meet the Beatles! 1/64
The Beatles' Second Album 4/64
A Hard Day's Night (United Artists) 6/64
Something New 7/64
The Beatles vs. the Four Seasons (Vee Jay) 10/64
  also released as Songs, Pictures, and Stories of the Fabulous Beatles
  (Vee Jay) 10/64
Beatles '65 12/64
The Early Beatles 3/65
Beatles VI 6/65
Help! 8/65
Rubber Soul 12/65
"Yesterday..." and Today 6/66
Revolver 8/66
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 6/67
Magical Mystery Tour 11/67
The Beatles 11/68
Yellow Submarine 1/69
Abbey Road 10/69
Hey Jude 2/70
Let It Be 5/70
The Beatles 1962-1966 4/73
The Beatles 1967-1970 4/73
Rock and Roll Music 6/76
The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl 5/77
Live! at the Star Club in Hamburg, Germany 1962 6/77
Love Songs 10/77
Rareties 3/80

UK
Please Please Me 3/63
With the Beatles 11/63
A Hard Day's Night 7/64
Beatles for Sale 12/64
Help! 8/65
Rubber Soul 12/65
Revolver 8/66
A Collection of Beatles Oldies 12/66
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 6/67
The Beatles 11/68
Yellow Submarine 1/69
Abbey Road 9/69
Let It Be 5/70
The Beatles 1962-1966 4/73
The Beatles 1967-1970 4/73
Rock and Roll Music 6/76
Magical Mystery Tour 12/76
Live! at the Star Club in Hamburg, Germany 1962 (Lingasong) 4/77
The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl 5/77
Love Songs 11/77
Rareties 11/79
From: sasjrm@beatle.unx.sas.com (Jeff McDermott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Korean get back facts
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:06:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: unx.1992Apr6.170603.3174
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasjrm@beatle.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 1148

it never fails everytime someone says that the 'korean' aka 'get back + rooftop'
cd is horrible, someone else posts that it 'surpasses' the yellow dog
get back release.

let me explain why this keeps happening.  you folks are arguing about 2
different 'rooftop' releases.  as reported in belmo's beatleg news several
years ago, the 'korean get back cd' was reissued in perfect quality, or
at least fairly indistinguishable from the recently released yellow dog
version.  note that the matrix number has a 2 at the end (just as with
some of the remastered legitamate hendrix cd's).

another example of a cd getting a bad rep was when unsurpassed masters 1-4
were originally released in one track stereo so that only one channel
appeared on the final cd releases.  whatever happened to those things &
how come nobody ever complains about unsurpassed being 'horrible'?

probably cuz word got out that they were quickly reissued in much better
quality.  somehow though word never got out that later 'korean get back'
cd's sound GREAT, not necessarily better than yellow dog but bascially
indistinguishable...

hope this clears up future get back wars.
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Lennon/McCartney
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:29:18 GMT
Organization: Everywhere

In article <1992Apr9.150619.562@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, rgp39716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rahul G. Patwari) writes:
> kent_f1@verifone.com writes:
> 
> >>       The Lennon and McCartney songwriting patrnership is often regarded
> >>   as a total or partial myth. It is true that the two stopped writing
> >>  together in ameaningful way very early on. But the collabaration was
> >>  essentially competitive anyway. 
> 
> >I'd say it's about 86.3% myth.  These guys would come up with songs and
> >then get some degree of input from one-another.  I think the key to the 
> >whole thing is that it WAS a competition.  I've read a number of quotes 
> >from Paul and John to that effect.
> 
> >The question REALLY should be:
> >  
> >	Which Beatle songs were true 50-50 collaborations?
> >        ==================================================
> 
> >        You might pick 'A Hard Day's Night' for starters.
> >	How about 'Cry For A Shadow' (J + G)?
> 
> In how many Beatles's songs was there a sharing of lead vocals, i.e. 
> "A Day In The Life" where Paul get's to sing the middle section?  I can't
> think of any others (I only have _Help!_ and beyond, though).

Well, there's "We Can Work It Out" - John takes the middle-8 (with
Paul harmonizing...).

-- 
David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu
"Now a life of leisure and a pirate's treasure don't make much for tragedy.
 But it's a sad man, my friend, who's livin' in his own skin and can't stand
   the company..."                -Bruce Springsteen, 1992
From: jpisano@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (joseph.pisano)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Because" rumor
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:28:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsi.1992Apr6.162850.10000
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1876@transfer.stratus.com> bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
>
>It might be that John was *inspired* by the backwards (I heard upside down, 
>but whatever it is) version of "Moonlight Sonata" and he is being modest 
>about his actual "composing" part of it.
>


Actually, the chords in "Because" are different from
those in "Moonlight Sonata."


Because:

C#m C#m D#m7-5 G#7 A C#m A7/9 ...

Moonlight Sonata:

C#m G#7 C#m F#m/A B7 E ...


I think the chords in Chopin's "Fantasie Impromptu are more like
the ones in "Because" (the first few are exactly the same!):

Fantasie Impromptu:

C#m C#m D#m7-5 G#7 C#m C#m6 ...


So, maybe Yoko was playing Chopin & John didn't realize what
piece it was!  Unfortunately, the whole thing about playing
the song backwards would trash this whole thing since the
two pieces sound identical played forwards!

Joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson)
Subject: Re: Another one of those damn polls
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 05:43:39 GMT

In article <32927@darkstar.ucsc.edu> mortal@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (71079000) writes:
>
>I was listening to Past Masters, and I heard a song with the rather
>lame (if I may say so) lyric reading something like:
>
>"My girl don't give me presents
> I know that she's no peasant."
>
>And I thought to myself that that particular rhyme was so forced it
>ought to press charges.
>
>SO, in following a tradition that dates back at least to a couple of
>months ago, which was when I started reading rmb, I am asking for
>answers to the following survey questions:
>
>1) What is the worst original Beatles lyric (Ranging from a couple
>   words to a whole song. Whatever wrankles your hackles.) you've
>   heard? 
>
>2) What is the best?
>
>Post here, write me at mortal@ucscb.ucsc.edu, whatever, I'll post
>the results.
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>+ Lore Christian        + "I want to be a lawyer--            +
>+    Fitzgerald Sj|berg +  I want to be scholar--             +
>+ mortal@ucscb.ucsc.edu +  But I really can't be bothered..." +
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

	I'll have to think about the first question for a while, but for
pure lyrical brilliance, I'll vote for "Across the Universe."  Marvelous
song, and Lennon was right:  it should have been recorded better and with
more care...the lyrics deserve it.

			Nat Pearson
			raindrop@leland.stanford.edu
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Here we go now...)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: _Beatle Recording Sessions_
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:53:46 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

It should be mandatory for members of this list to buy/borrow/rent/steal
a copy of _Beatle Recording Sessions_.  Paul screaming "I have blisters on
my fingers"???

It's all in there, folks.  Maybe we can save bandwith in the meantime.

-- 

+-| Paul M. Lewis, six damn credits short: SCREW L.U. |---+-| Looking for: |-+
|'I'd love to turn you on.'                 -The Beatles  | Cover Up         |
|'You should be with us, feeling like we do -Perry Farrell|   by Gary Shaw   |
| like you love to, but never will again.'                | JFK titles       |
|'You never had the answers!'               -Ministry     |   by R. Cutler   |
|'You can't be what you were.'              -Fugazi       | Muchmore 8mm     |
From: sastxb@weevil.unx.sas.com (Thomas Bednarek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Sheesh
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:41:26 GMT
    <1992Apr2.130231.13040@unx.sas.com> <rfc0kINNmuh@agate.berkeley.edu> 
    <1992Apr3.110639.11165@mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sastxb@weevil.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 933

In article <1992Apr3.110639.11165@mic.ucla.edu>, dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu (saki) writes:
>
>As for the other references, they're nearly true---near enough for
>rock and roll, as the saying goes. Derek and Clive were the alter egos
>of British comedy duo Peter Cook and Dudley Moore,
>

	I knew this from a Saturday Night Live skit, as well
as from a Scottish friend. I "sheeshed" my inability to flag
your post after these two names were used. 

	No, Saki, I didn't think you pulled the names out
of a hat - I would have been greatly disappointed if you had :)

> ... whose Beatles 
>connection lies in their song "L. S. Bumblebee", which inexplicably
>ended up on a number of Beatles boots as being by the Fabs...which
>it wasn't.
>

	This I *didn't* know, as well as "the Goons" business.

	Good stuff, Saki! For a while there I thought we were
going to need a "ghost poster"; she's baaaaaack ...

					Tom
					(sastxb@vms.sas.com)
From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles (the dark side)
Date: 14 Apr 1992 21:31:19 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.cs.berkeley.edu

ehenry@hydra.unm.edu (Elizabeth Henry CIRT-IRC) writes:
> [...]  Perhaps the "Paul is dead" phenomenon
>was based in truth to some extent.  Not that Paul died, but 
>that there was something being expressed below the surface
>by both John and Paul pertaining to their own unresolved
>issues concerning the deaths of people close to them.
>As you know both lost their mothers early on.  Later there
>was the death of B. Epstien.  
>
>So maybe these unexamined feelings may have been pushed
>out of consciousness and later made their appearance through
>the creative process of songwritting.
> [...]
>Joe D.
>
>C
>and conflict.

(Ordinarily I try to edit out the other person's .sig, but I'm
a little confused as to whether this is a Joe or an Elizabeth
and I don't want to be accused of misattributing...)

Anyway, you don't have to wait for "Elanor Rigby."  I found the
tone of "Baby's In Black" a little grim.  But, is this a surprise?
This is going to sound really hokey, but death is part of everyone's
life experience.  It would be more surprising if we *didn't* hear
about death in the Beatles' songs.

It's true that many lesser groups preferred to restrict their lyrics
to the moon-June sort of thing, but even so, we psychologically hip
people can read thoughts of death into the many young-love-breakup
songs like (one of my obscure favorites) "Whenever a Teenager Cries"
by the immortal Reparata and the Delrons.  Not to mention the explicit
death theme in all those old car-crash songs.

So, sure, there are themes of death in the Beatles' songs, but I don't
think that's a big deal, and I don't think it explains the popularity of
the "Paul is dead" myth.  If you want explanations, here are a couple:
(1) It started at around the time when we got our first hints that the
Beatles were dead, or dying, as a group.  Certainly they were dead as the
live, exuberant, hard-day's-night type group we'd fallen in love with
earlier.  (2) This was also near the time of the Kent State shootings,
the violent 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago, the People's Park death,
and so on.  Death was in the air socially.
From: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: FTP site for Lyrics!!!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:48:07 GMT
Reply-To: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University

131.210.1.4

cd pub
cd lyrics



Chris
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: I am not a liar!
From: lygaribay@amherst.edu
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:01:05 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

In response to Lee Kilpatrick's venemous accusation that I am NOT the age that
I profess to be, I say, fie, you evil one!  I am too SEVENTEEN years old, no
more, no less, and I will be legal (18) in TEN DAYS, which means that I will
be 17 no longer.  I cannot believe that I have come under such attack.  I am
truly distressed.  Shall I forward a copy of my birth certificate?  Where 
shall I send it?

Other non-believers can just e-mail me, and I will deal with you all on an
individual basis...

Cheerio!

Lisa :D
the wonder frod (NOT fraud...)
From: hymowitz@SERVER.CS.JHU.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: linda is dead (was Re: Hey there Tonto...)
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:49:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9204082254.AA16291
Organization: The Incredibly Huge Corporation

how else does saki know everything about everything about the beatles...

except if her husband were...


--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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