From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Sexuality
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:51:49 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


In article <1992Dec30.225929.3242@nwnexus.WA.COM> elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:
>
>   False.  Homosexuality is dictated by nature in creatures we agree
>are incapable of making a conscious choice.  Why shouldn't humans be
>just as likely to have their orientation dictated by nature? 

Nonsense, nonsense, NONSENSE!  The gay community it the first to argue,
when it comes to matters like gays in the military, that homosexuality
is less to do about sex than it has to do with "love" and relationships
etc.  Where does the equivelent of human homosexuality exist in other
species?  Do you really think anyone seriously believes that two rats of 
the same gender, engaging in some hormone inspired hump-a-back dance is an 
indication of anything remotely similar to what goes on in a human sexual 
relationships.  My neighbors dog tries the mount the leg of every stranger
he encounters so what does that make him an appendagesexual?  Because dogs
routinely engage in this type of behavior does it now follows that it's
normal and/or acceptable for a certain percentage of humans to attempt
to rub their genitales on the legs of strangers they meet in public.

The equivelent of human relationships exists in no other species, to try
draw a connection between our behavior and that of wild animals is nonsense.

Let's assume for a moment that your little - it happens in animals so it must
be normal - notion is correct.  Can we now use the behavior of animals  to
govern all our sexual and social behavior?  

Lets see now, I don't think I've ever heard of any male animals asking for the
consent of their female mates, heck big cats like lions routinely beat their
mates to the point of exhaustion and hold the female's neck in their jaws 
under threat of death in order to mount them.  I guess that means rape is 
really normal behavior and the rapist is simply an oppressed minority in 
our society.  Rams, elk, dear and a host of other animals select their 
mates by engaging in physical combat with other males to gain dominance
over their females, does that mean because it happens in nature I can go home
tonight engage my neighbor in a duel and after I've killed him, his wife
and three daughter automatically become my life long sexual servants?
Other mamamals like dolphins routinely engage in gang rapes of females.
Hey it happens in nature, by your standard it must be normal behavior.

Yes in deed let's allow animal behavior to direct our sexual behavior and
define what is normal.  First thing we do is send all the women back into
the homes, raise the children, can't have them taking over the male roles
in society, it doesn't happen in nature and nature most assuredly defines
male and female roles with in species.  Hey I like this more each moment,
if we left what happens in nature define what is normal behavior then a 
"normal family" would be one male being served by numerous females, on
demand, with out consent and all subordinate males in the community forced 
into celibacy.  Yup it's all normal cause it happens in nature and rapists,
child molestors, polygamists, wife beaters and a zillion other groups 
of people are really just oppressed minorities and not just bunch of deviants
that society has the right to control. 

Homosexual animals HA, get a life already would you people.

PSG
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