HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Insurance Bullshit
Date: 21 Jul 1992 19:27:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1661@necis.UUCP, dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons) writes:
>
>Keep in mind
>that most long distance trucking companies reported HIGHER fuel
>consumption, not lower, when their drivers were forced to go 55.

When the law first came out, wasn't there a differentiation, like

AUTOS:  55
TRUCKS:  65

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Please wear a helmet
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:09:05 GMT

wbetts@mpx0.lampf.lanl.gov (Betts, Wayne J.) writes:

>While I agree with the economic arguments for helmet wearing laws
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wow, things really are getting out of hand. I knew that riders had to
wear helmets, but this is the first I've heard that laws had to wear
them too. Next thing you know, legislators will be required to wear them
too.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:10:00 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications


		Favourite gears:

Generic gear users.....

First gear:	for those lacking power. If you had any, you would loop it...

Second gear:	for quarter-milers. Townies.

Third gear:	for the twisties. The European gear.

Fourth gear:	for those with excess power, when third still spins the rear.

Fifth gear:	for grandads, and motorway snoozes.

Sixth gear:	for wimpy high-revving engines. Ah-so.

Seventh gear:	for 125 race-replica owners downhill behind the bubble.

My vote is for third gear. You can comfortably see off a cage at legal speeds, or
really have a go round the twisties on your own.

============================================================================
Richard Taylor                 DoD #981               (rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk)
"Gentlemen, starta your engines... 2 minutes, to the hills." Massimo Laverda
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:24473 aus.news:108 aus.general:1396
From: tony@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Tony Molina)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,aus.news,aus.general
Subject: Re: Australian motorcyclists - do we need our own group?
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:13:13 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

>> extremely useful. How many oz.bikers are there? It would be better
>> to read articles about oz roads than us ones. So much of rec.motorcycles
>> is useless.

>Good idea.


I agree! Roll on aus.motorcycles .....


Tony (Honda VF1000)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: GATO Camera From Hell (tm)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 26 Jul 92 12:50:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> Warning to UK bikers: Where the M4 (Highway to Hell (tm)) joins
-> London (Hell (tm)), the filth have put one of their f**king
-> little boxes.  It is on the incoming side, on the left, just
-> where the limit goes from 70 to 50!

 Back in the 1960s the state of Texas tested a photo-radar system called
ORBIS.  It worked for about a month, until the Texans discovered spray
paint, mud, or fecal matter worked fine to cover the lens.

 The police wound up staking out the boxes for a while, but they
eventually decided that if the cop had to be there anyway, he might as
well write the tickets too.

 Every now and then some state in the US tries photo-radar again, but
they don't seem to last long.  The most successful variants have used
mobile units mounted in vans.
                                                                                      
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan)
Subject: Re: New TV show with motorcycles
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:04:14 GMT

From article <159oceINN2h8@cs.utexas.edu>, by osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn):
> what the heck is a bronson?  (My best guess:  Some memorable pre-war

Ah, sonny, I remember, awww, was it, I dunno, maybe it was, say, what
was that year anyway, yeah, it was, yeah, that's it, it was 1969.  Or
thereabouts. No, sonny, wait, now that I ponder on it a spell, maybe it
was 1970. Well, it don't make no never mind no how. There was this new
fangled television show named "Then Came Bronson", sorta a Route 66 on
two wheels, where -- eh? Route 66? Well, now, that was a show in which
these two fellas in a Corvette... eh? Oh, yeah, now where was I? Dag
nap it, I can't see a durned thing out of these glasses.  Oh, yeah.
Micheal Parks was this newspaper reporter fella who got downright
despondant -- eh? he was, you know, low down, sad -- anyhoo, he was
this reporter fella -- did I mention that? -- who was despondant over
the death of a friend. So he quit his job, sold everything he owned,
and set off cross country on a Harley-Davidson Sportster. Well, he'd
ride all over the dang place, it was filmed on location you know -- did
I mention that? And he'd have all kinds of adventures and run ins and
stuff with just regular folk like you and me. Well, like me anyway.
And he'd ride that Sporty... oh, did I mention the optional accessory
on the Sporty? Essential it was, yeah, essential. It was a Plot Device,
yep, that's what it was, a Plot Device, this gizmo that allowed the
bike to become dang near any brand or model was convenient for the plot
at that particular moment. Yep, I can remember that Sporty turn'in into
a dirt bike on several occasions. Ah, you young pups, yep, I reckon you
just don't get telephone shows like that anymore. Well, I remember one
you mighta heard of, Star Trek it was, yep, well, it only lasted three
seasons, but it was hot stuff in those days. Yep, it surely was...
hmph... zzzzzzzzz

--
John Sloan              "Since I've given up hope,        +1 303 497 1243
NCAR/SCD                   I feel much better."       Fax +1 303 497 1137
Boulder CO 80307-3000 USA                            jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu
Logical Disclaimer:  belong(opinions,jsloan). belong(opinions,_):-!,fail.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon)
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:02:51 GMT
Organization: Connemara - Computing for People
Distribution: usa
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.0.1 12/13/89)
Status: OR

sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes:
>In article <5072@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>:Anybody slaps *any* kind of sticker on my car that and I would be *very*
>:pissed off.  Is that really what you want, a bunch of ignorant and pissed
>:off cagers?  Think about it.
>
>That might not be so bad. At least they might notice motorcycles now.

Notice - often.  Respect - never.

--
Denis  McKeon                            Good.   Fast.   Cheap.
galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu                       Pick two.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: Tabasco
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:31:06 GMT
Summary: The Best
Keywords: Tabasco

In article <1992Jul21.194908.9800@isc-br.isc-br.com>, carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.161304.27104@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
> >In article <697@zx11.UUCP> joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
> >>oil, garlic juice, tabasco sauce, and "several other foul-tasting
> >>ingredients" and get a "one of the best things I've ever tasted!"
> >>from 1 out of 4 people that try it.
> >
> >Now, wait just a dang minute!  Tabasco sauce _is_ one of the best
> >things I've ever tasted.  I buy it in pint bottles.
> 
> Naturally.  You're only sensible.

Me too.  Once you've had it on breakfast eggs, you can't go back.
I rank it right up there with Bose speakers, CM Radar Detectors,
Aerostitch riding suits, and Harley-Davidson Motorcycles for truly
exceptional, high-quality products produced by Americans.

Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:32:18 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Jul29.175228.8641@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <SLAGLE.92Jul28232713@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>>Bullshit.  Find me one major hospital in the US that has a policy
>>of turning away trauma cases on the basis of the patient's wallet.
>
>[...]
>the first question I was asked after the patient's name was "what insurance
>coverage does the patient have?".  My friend with the broken leg would
>not have gotten in, except for his Northwestern student ID, and the
>campus security officers who drove us in verifying that he was a student -
>I guess they figured his parents had money.


Wasn't there a big stink in Connecticut recently because the daughter of
some rich people became ill (while away from home for some reason?) and
was admitted to the local hospital, but since the hospital didn't realize
she was really a little rich girl, they let her languish and die, when
they could easily have saved her (albeit with somewhat more expensive
treatment)?  Her parents were, of course, furious, and unlike the
typical schmoes they had the influence to make something out of it.

The more I read on this thread the more convinced I become that a
national health care policy would be GOOD for motorcyclists.  I don't
favor the Canadian model from what I've heard, though.  I'd prefer
just to have a mandate for *insurance* similar to what you can get
from Blue Cross or a good HMO, where the insurers have to put together
large enough pool of insurees to spread the risk properly (unlike 
right now, where if one employee in a small business has an injury,
the rates shoot up so high the company has to drop the insurance, as
happened in a place where my wife used to work).  Heck, I pay for
insurance now, I'm willing to continue paying, but I'm not happy with
the substandard policy I've got from my university.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: cars-v-bikes
Keywords: brakes,corners
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:50:26 GMT

gxw@crosfield.co.uk (garry wilmot) writes:

>Food for thought!

Thought from food!

>1)   how does the braking performance of todays supersports 750`s
>compare with cars.

Cars win.

>2)   will such a supersports motocycle take a corner faster than
>a comparable super car.

Cars win.

The problem is that you picked the wrong tests. In both braking and
cornering the amount of grip between the road & tire is the most
important factor. Since a car has a much larger total contact patch than
the bike, it has the advantage. Various magazine tests (Motorcyclist,
Car & Driver, etc.) have shown this.

Now if you look for test where light weight and a high power/weight
ratio gives the advantage, then the bike comes out on top. Bikes do
better in slalom courses and acceleration.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Summer riding (who needs it !)
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:13:57 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Well, got back a couple of weeks ago from a ride down into southern New Mexico.
You know what is in southern New Mexico in the middle of the summer ? Not a
damn thing ! ! It was 106 degrees in Roswell ! I gased up in Tucumcari and rode
towards Roswell. I went through Fort Sumner and thought, ah hell, it's only
96 miles to Roswell, so I gas gas up along the way. WRONG ! There wasn't a
lizard on the road, much less a gas station ! I hit reserve about 28 miles out
of Roswell and I had visions of pushing the wing in the heat dancing in my
fried little brain. So I spy the first gas station in north Roswell. I pull in
the clutch and the wing gasped it's last breath, so I coasted up to the first
pump (damn, another ten feet and I would have made it to the right pump as the
first one was diesle). Got myself bar-b-qued from the sun. You know, the good
kind of water blisters that pop on your arm and dry up into that crusty stuff,
not to mention that my lips looked like some deformed Ubangi ! I spent four
days bumming around Roswell and I think I had the Mexicans working night shifts
to keep me in Dos Equis ;-) Then I headed to Albequerque for a few days. 
Riding back, my butt was doing a slow burn on the seat. Just couldn't get
comfortable. I left Albequerque at 6:00 A.M. and got into Lawernce Kansas at
10:30 P.M. the same day. I was burnt by the sun, sore from fighting 40 MPH
crosswinds in southwestern Kansas and covered from a locus swarm I ran through
just outside of Pratt Kansas. I pulled the wing into the garage and could feel
her sigh as I shut down. I went into the house, pulled a cold brew from the
fridge and downed it in two gulps, then sat in my easy chair. The last thing I
rememeber before falling asleep was, 'Where and when is the next ride....I
can't wait !'

-=-= Wes =-=-=
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Fort Davis VLBA site)
Subject: Re: How to reduce the vibration ?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:14:47 GMT

>"Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>writes
>> 
>>  Someone manufactures a "bar snake" which emulates
>>  the same thing without the molten state being
>>  required.  See the back pages of <your choice>
>>  motorcycle mag.
>>  Cheers,
>>  Victor "Aerostich side up, Metzler side down" Johnson


>are you serious, victor?


>-peter

>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>*                             WATCH BACK!                           *
>*                                                                   *
>* DoD #10o00                 Suzuki LS650H         NAUI INST. #1434 *
>*                             (for sale)                            *
>*                             Honda CM400                           *
>*                           (for sale, too)                         *
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Peter, your contribution to this thread was minimal.  Given your high use of
net.moto.bandwidth, don't you think you'd be doing yourself as well as the
rest of us a *BIG FAVOR* if you'd *THINK MORE AND POST LESS*.

--
Steve Cowell, Site Tech, VLBA, Fort Davis, Tx...DoD#0627....iridean883.......
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: winter bike storage tips
Date: 27 Jul 1992 16:06:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 23919@samba.oit.unc.edu, Siddharth.Soni@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni) writes:
>As the end of my 1st riding season approaches, I've started to give 
>some thought to the proper storage of a bike for the winter.  
>--
>   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 

I haven't been through a full winter here yet, but I'm pretty sure you
don't need to put the bike away!

It's not like you're in Boulder or something...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:18:04 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fogging Faceshields
	<4343@prcrs.prc.com>

>Ok,  I'll bite.  Seems to me that the only way to discover this 'trick'
>is to expectorate a cud of tobacco from inside your helmet, forgetting
>that there is a visor between you and Ma Nature.  After the embarassment
>dies down, you rinse out your helmet and later make a serendipitous   
>discovery - no more fogging!
> 
>Was this how it happened?      
> 
>Terry
> 
>-- 
> | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Let me take my chances on the wall  |

yep, that's exactly what happened.  and this was after i took up chewing
because the damned cigar kept getting in the way of my full face shield.
 had to be a real short stub or it wouldn't close.  but even with a
stub, the helmet got so full of smoke i couldn't see.  but i got clever
after awhile, and discovered this other way of doing things.  us bikers
ain't nothing if not smart!


-peter

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*                             WATCH BACK!                           *
*                                                                   *
* DoD #10o00                 Suzuki LS650H         NAUI INST. #1434 *
*                             (for sale)                            *
*                             Honda CM400                           *
*                           (for sale, too)                         *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "cute" dealer names (Was: Combined dealerships)
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:49:31 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <18629@drutx.ATT.COM> pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul23.135830.26009@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>
>> How about dealer names? I like "Cycle Logical", and here in Utah there's
>> one called "Big Boy's Toys", sexist perhaps, but truth in advertizing. :-)
>
>I always kind of liked the name "Rice Cycle" in Rapid City.  It would have
>been funnier if Don Rice sold Harleys instead of Hondas, though. 8-)
>P.M. Smith

I have always liked "One Wheel Drive" in Conway, NH.

-- 
	 Frank E Perdicaro, Systems Admin, etc.		Xyvision Color Systems
      Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.		101 Edgewater Drive
   inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572				Wakefield MA
outhouse: frank@contex.com, 617-245-4100x5572		018801285
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
In-reply-to: sean@ms.uky.edu's message of 30 Jul 92 07:35:12 GMT
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
	<1992Jul30.073512.13552@ms.uky.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:55:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.073512.13552@ms.uky.edu>, sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes:

> In article <5072@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
> :Anybody slaps *any* kind of sticker on my car that and I would be *very*
> :pissed off.  Is that really what you want, a bunch of ignorant and pissed
> :off cagers?  Think about it.

> That might not be so bad. At least they might notice motorcycles now.

Yeah, they might start running us off the road
on purpose.
--
----
Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Archive for r.m?
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:32:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Jul21.133218.23945
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Jul20.195251.4820@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
>In article <4546@balrog.ctron.com> tavares@ctron.com writes:
>>: ObDisclaimer:  If you are a med student, and your login ID matches the
>>: regular expression '[a-z][a-z][a-z][0-9]*', please accept my apologies
>>: for the use of the word "damn".  Oh, shit, I've done it again.
>>: --
>>: Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
>
>If you are refering to me, I am not a medical student or a medical
>doctor!
>
>
>
>--
>      Michael L. Johnson
>      mlj8e@virginia.edu

I know, you just play one on the net.
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Minimalist biking
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:20:37 GMT

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John) writes:
: I've been asked privately if my bike (msg 23689) was legal.
: It is perfectly legal here in Minnesota.
: 
: We require:
: One brake on either wheel, a horn, a head light
: with hi/lo beam, one mirror, tail light with
: brake light.
: 
: That's it, folks.
: 

Brakes?         Just wear DMs.
Mirrors?        Just look over your shoulder.
Horn?           Just shout at the bloody cars!
High/low beam?  Just move the headlight up and down.
Brake light?    No brakes = no light.

Ever seen a speedway bike?  Now that's what I call a minimalist bike!


Nick  DoD 1069  (No fucking fuel guage on my K!  What do you expect for L8.5K!)

42 ?

"Just another brick..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: New $$$=New bike?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:26:35 GMT

rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:

>What would you do if your income increased by 57%?

Something horribly expensive, impractical, rare, exotic, and beautiful.

Square Four Ariel

Vincent V-four

Anything from Bimota

An exotic (and illegal in the US) 2-stroke racer-replica
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles