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From: yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Date: 1 Oct 92 06:56:19 GMT
Organization: LLNL_LIS

In article <jpuzzo.717866866@husc10>, (James Puzzo) writes:
> 
> I think you need to sit down and have a cool drink.  There is just NO need for
> you to get so ruffled just because some programmer decided to use certain 
> words in certain places.  Maybe you come from "nowheresville" or something,
> but people swear in the real world.  They really do. 

You're are 110% correct! In the real world, people DO curse...but there's a
proper time and a proper place to use these words.  I would not curse around my
grandmother, or some of my friends for that matter.  I know when it's
appropriate to do so.  Some programmers obviously do not.  They do not know who
is running their programs.  The users of their programs are (mostly) total
strangers.  You (probably) would not walk up to a stranger, on the street, and 
tell him/her to F*CK OFF!, for no apparent reason.  Nor would you answer the 
phone, and say "P*SS UP A ROPE!...click".

And I do not come from "NowheresVille", and I do curse.  I can curse like a
sailor when the situation is appropriate.  (Well, I was a sailor, but that's
another story).  But I have enough gray matter to know when/what to say, and to
whom.

> In some parts of the world, people talk and write that way.  They 
> really do.  

I'm sure in parts of the world, most people know when the situation isn't
proper.  I'm sure they really do.

> Case closed.

Not quite! 

> James Puzzo
 
> P.S.  Never visit New York City, if you can help it.  You might melt.
> 	Or get sworn at.
> 	Or even hear some swearing.
> 	Not even directed at you.
> 

Oh, please!   Grow up!

Joe
From: mustang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul Christopher Miranda (I love Cheese))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:56:28 GMT
Reply-To: mustang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul Christopher Miranda (I love Cheese))

well,well,well...
it's amazing how a brisk little debate can form just because
I didn't giv much thought to the title of my post..:)

anyway.. the worst thing about demos is... they are utterly USELESS !!

I see hundreds and hundreds of demos that are the cutting edge of
kill the OS and have fun with the hardware.. but they never amount to
ANYTHING! .. usually the demos are just advertisements for parties
so a bunch of people can get together to write more!

I see some real brilliance in the coding and ideas in _some_ demos
but useful programs are never the result...

I wish they would all get together to make a game at least!
as for bad language.. if its in a scroll i don't really care..
i rarely see utility programs with bad language in them because
the kind of people who use bad language in programming would
never have the persistence to make a good utility..

I hope some master hacker proves me wrong and writes a really good
VR program that runs on all amigas (even my 50 Mhz GVP 2000)

"I have feelings too, I just choose to  | Paul Miranda  likes cheese 
 to hide them underneath bitter denial" | mustang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A4000!!!!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:59:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University


     
     The A4000 is out and at a price much lower than I ever thought!!!
$2800.00.  But, I WANT A TOWER!!!  Can anyone in CBM tell me if it
would be possible for me to get just a case for the A4000 tower if it
ever comes out?  Also, are the interiors  of the standard 4000 and tower
version different?  Please use 3000 as example, I personally do not know.
Thanks...
  
                                                        -TKH '92
  
P.S.  Some nice person convinced me that it may be to my advantage to
      get a new Amiga instead of spending $300-$500 just to upgrade my
      C=128.
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Error in "Fred Fish Collection" CDROM version 1.5?
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:06:30 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED


	There is an error in my copy of "The Fred Fish Collection" CDROM
version 1.5 by Hypermedia Concepts.  Could somebody please verify that
the error is (is not) on their copy?

	The directory

		FF_DISKS/571-600/FF_576/TermII/Francais

shows up when I list the entire TermII directory, but I cannot "cd" into it.
In addition, the icon "Francais.info" does not show up on the Workbench and
also seems not to exist (even though it shows up when listing the TermII
directory).

	Thanks.

                                                        Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO)
Subject: Re: What is (infamous) RTG?
Organization: HFS, Inc., McLean VA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:45:17 GMT

In article <bruce.0aq3@zuhause.MN.ORG> bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.185244.26103@watson.ibm.com> sck@watson.ibm.com (Scott C. Kennedy) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep15.172440.10032@daimi.aau.dk>, pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
>>|> Often, RTG graphics are expressed wanted in the Amiga
>>|> Operating System; what is it? Real Time Graphics?
>>|> Real True Golour? (Honestly, I'm clueless about what
>>|> RTG supposedly stands for) 
>>
>>Re-Targetable Graphics.- The abilty to display you program on any monitor that
>>is connected to your computer. The Macintosh has this. Just plug in a graphics
>>board and boot the machine. Finder is running on that board. That is what is 
>>wanted for the Amiga. 
>
>Close.  It's the ability to plug any graphics board into your system, and have
>all software use it automatically, assuming a driver is available for the board.
>With RTG, if GVP came out with a new whiz-bang graphics board, with 24 bit color
>per pixel and 1280x1024 pixels, you'd be able to plug it in, and the Workbench 
>and any other screens would be displayed via the new graphics board in all their 
>24 bit glory. 
>--
>bruce@zuhause.mn.org
>Youth is wasted on the young.


How does RTG differ from DIG (Device Independent Graphics) then?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dey@ravel.udel.edu (Noel Dean Dey)
Subject: Re: Making a 'custom' CD-ROM?  Anyone interested?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:30:09 GMT

In article <4flzn3k@rpi.edu> pooler@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Robert Peter Poole) writes:

>
>
... stuff deleted.....

>A couple requests:
>(1) Since the Fred Fish disks are already available in a couple different
>incarnations on CD-ROM, please minimize the overlap with the Fish collection.
>
>(2) Could someone tell me, either on this newsgroup or via email, if the CD
>ROM of the AB20 archive is still available, and how much it costs?  Thanks...
>
>Rob Poole
>pooler@rpi.edu

The final snapshot of AB20 is available from:

Bob Bruce
Walnut Creek CDROM
1547 Palos Verdes Mall
Suite 260
Walnut Creek, CA 
1-800-786-9907

The price is $24.95 + $5 s/h  (if I remember right)

Bob has several various disks available, for including MS-DOS and GIF
disks, and a ASCII Books disk, but the AB20 disk is the only Amiga-
specific.  I have several, and am very pleased with them. 



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Subject: Re: Data exchange between Amiga and IBM PC
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:30:54 GMT

>>
>>I'll post here since others might want to know this.
>>get twinexpress its GREAT! it uses a simple serial cable beteen the 2 machines
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      Just be sure to not multitask anything, and reboot the Amiga
>after the transfer.  TWIN is a buggy mess on the Amiga side.

???????????????

I've never had a *SINGLE* problem with TwinExpress.... am I missing something?? I've
used it on both 1.3 and 2.0, between amiga-amiga and amiga-ibm, with varying amounts
of memory/multitasking/disk access, and have never had even a SINGLE problem with it..

maybee you just have a corrupt copy???

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: teece@sol.UVic.CA ()
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces A3000/SCALA Special Promotion
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:46:53 GMT

In article <17686@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS) writes:
>
>COMMODORE (R) ANNOUNCES AMIGA 3000 (R) WITH SCALA (R)
>PACKAGE AT OUTSTANDING NEW PRICE OF $1499*
>

(Bunch of stuff deleted.)

Can anything be implied here about Commodore's own package AmigaVision?  I 
have not used Scala but it sounds like it does some of the same things AV
does, so that AV may get left behind if everyone jumps for this deal.
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phil Dietz)
Subject: Does Commodore have a student loan program?
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:20:37 GMT


My friend's mac just fried.

He'd like to get an Amiga (after my persuasion), but it seems that Commodore
doesn't offer a student load program like Apple.  The Apple loan program
will allow a college student or faculty member to get a loan up to $10,000
and only have to pay interest on it until he/she graduates.

Does Commodore offer a loan program so my friend doesn't buy a IIsi instead?

--
                                                              Phil Dietz
       I tend to fawble.                              pdietz@cse.unl.edu
                                                  University Of Nebraska
From: d1wizo@dtek.chalmers.se (Ola Lundkvist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Fonts .metric files?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:19:43 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

I've got some files ending with .metric in my FONTS: directory. Does
anyone know what this files are used for, if they are used at all?

Ola

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin)
Subject: Gee, thanks Commodore. :-I
Originator: jmarin@messi.uku.fi
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:25:25
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland


>COMMODORE (R) ANNOUNCES AMIGA 3000 (R) WITH SCALA (R)
>PACKAGE AT OUTSTANDING NEW PRICE OF $1499*
>
>(West Chester, PA --- September 24, 1992) --- Commodore Business
>Machines, Inc. today announced that its Amiga (R) 3000 Presentation
>System, bundled with the new SCALA (R)  Multimedia 200 software, is
>now available in the U.S. through the end of November* at the
>outstanding promotional price of $1499. Prior to this promotion, the
>package had a suggested retail price of over $3100*. Now, promotion
>savings range from $1725 to $2015*, depending on the system purchased.

Yeah, fine.  And how about the European, Australian etc. people?  It
seems to me that we are paying for the cheap machines sold in the US.
Amiga 3000 with 2 megs of RAM and a 52 MB hard disk costs over $3000
here in Finland and we have no hope of any discounts.  $1499.  Ha.

  Jukka Marin

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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga on TV
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:46:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Did any one else see an Amiga with some football pics on it on a
>TV commercial with the Chiefs vs. someone else I forgot.   Kindada
>interesting.....
>
>                        Todd Major

And the Amiga sitting on the desk in the Britanica ads (the wierd one with
the blond kid talking to the camera).

-Joel
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From: frank@clark.edu (Frank Torres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A3000 bus speed Question
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:08:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Oct6.070845.29583
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

I was wondering what the bus speed was on a A3000. I think
I read somewhere that it was selectable. This might have been
somthing else. One last thing does the A3000 come with a Math
Coprocessor.

	Please email me at:  frank@clark.edu

	Thanks for any info.


	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dmartin@uceng.UC.EDU (Dale Martin)
Subject: quick question about DICE and one about Matlab
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:08:55 GMT


Hello!  I had two quick questions I was hoping someone might be able to
answer.

1) Is there an easy way to mix assembly and C code with DICE other
than  doing it in the link phase?  (In Quick C, there is a _asm flag
that lets one start cranking out assembly code in the middle of their C code.
It's kind of cool)

2)  What is the newest version of Matlab for the Amiga?  The one I have is 
realyy ancient.

Thanks!
	Dale

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Stace)
Subject: Re: :-( Contest - win your own A4000 :-(
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:30:43 GMT

zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) writes:

>In article <1992Sep28.140559.23389@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>>In article <35403@cbmvax.commodore.com> AmigaContest@cbmvax.commodore.com writes:
>>>4000 REASONS TO OWN AN AMIGA CONTEST
>>>
>>  [... Lots deleted, including the specs on the prizes ...]
>>>
>>>9. Contest is open only to residents of the U.S. and Canada.
>>
>>That is just great... I am really fed up by being ignored by C= here in
>>Australia. And it's not just this competition that has me Pi**ed off.
>>How is this for a list of 4000 reasons to be dissapointed with C=
>>
>>US: Power Up to A3000 deal     Australia: NOTHING
>>UK: Trade in your A500 for CDTV        Australia: NOTHING
>>US: Buy A3000 get CDTV for FREE        Australia: NOTHING
>>US: 4000 reasons to own Amiga      Australia: NOTHING
>>
>>And I am sure that this list is nowhere near complete. Why, oh why, I ask
>>thee???

>I agree, it seems unfair that The competition is for only
>US and Canadian People. Surley Commodore USA can tie in with the other
>Commodore companys around the world, or in the major countries.
>I have had trouble with getting anything out of Commodore here in New
>Zealand as well...  It seems a pretty worldwide thing.... 

>Cheers,
>Grant

First off, I don't think this needed to be posted to ALL the bloody groups.  
comp.sys.amiga.misc would've done.  Second, don't blast Commodore USA for 
holding a contest.  Blast Commodore Wherever for *NOT* holding a contest.

Geez, we don't have the 3000+CDTV free here in Canada, but I'm not gonna whine
about it.  

->Stace<-
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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: PAL/NTSC
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:25:01 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

robertr@odie.cs.mun.ca (Robert Randell) writes:
>I recently installed a fatter agnus (along with 2 megs fast memory) into
>my 500. One of the things I was looking forward to doing was running PAL
>programs. I can see the whole screen all right, but the speed of execution
>is noticeably slower. This is especially apparent for demos and games...
>slower music and object movement. I suspect that it has to do with the 

Pal has a 50Hz scan rate, NTSC has a 60Hz rate.  that means in Pal you only
get 50 frames per second, 10 less than in NTSC.  Games and Demos use the scan
frequency as a means of timing their games so they run the same speed on all
machines.  If you want things to run faster, move back to NTSC.  Your talking
about frames per second.  you can't have more than 50 fps on Pal, anything
more would be lost.

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From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: An Amiga Christmas
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:41:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCJKH.IE8
Organization: University of Delaware

pejanes@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Janes) writes:
>
   [.....]
>
>   A single- or multi-drive user could play each one separately, or swap disks
>   when appropriate.  A hard-drive user could just copy each disk to a
>   directory, make the assigns and run forever.  If enough were available,
>   press a CDTV disc with all of them.

     Actually, Commodore should announce a 'Power Up Or Else' program
to get rid of those floppy-only users once and for all.  Then we wouldn't
have to deal with huge numbers of assigns to put something on a hard drive.
Maybe contract BLAZEMONGER, Inc's customer service department for, er, 
'support' those floppy users who haven't upgraded yet...


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From: scottw@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Scott Whiteley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Amigavison, Touchscreens
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:26:34 GMT
Organization: The Nucleus 16 Lines 403-531-9353 -CNet Amiga-


 
 
 
Got a few questions for anybody that knows something about Amiga-Vision
and the like. I'd like to set up an unmanned business in a few places
here in the city. The setup would have a few products that changed weekly
(these would be behind plexiglass) and a touch screen. Potential customers
would be able to gawk at the products on display and then order them
through the touch screen. You'd be able to cycle through about 45 products
, so if you saw something neat on display last week and it wasn't on
display this week you could cycle through the pictures and discriptions
until you found the product then select it. You'd then be prompted to
enter your credit card number and address. The product would be shipped
to your door about four weeks later. 
 
Now that you have a feel for what I'm after I'll start bombing you with 
questions. Would Amiga Vision be the best software for this application?
I've got it already but never played with it much. Would you be able
to design an Amiga Vision program that would store addresses and credit
card numbers so I could pick them up late at night? The object here
is to make this booth totally automated. How much is a decent touchscreen?
Is there anyone out there that could scan in full color pictures? For a
fee of course. Any idea on the total system requirements? Memory, 
drive space etc... And finally how tough do you think this would be to
set up?
 
 
                                Thanks for your time.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Gee, thanks Commodore. : -I
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:53:47 GMT

In article <Sep30.092329.13774@luotsi.uku.fi> jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin) writes:
>
>>COMMODORE (R) ANNOUNCES AMIGA 3000 (R) WITH SCALA (R)
>>PACKAGE AT OUTSTANDING NEW PRICE OF $1499*
>>
>Yeah, fine.  And how about the European, Australian etc. people?  It
>seems to me that we are paying for the cheap machines sold in the US.
>Amiga 3000 with 2 megs of RAM and a 52 MB hard disk costs over $3000
>here in Finland and we have no hope of any discounts.  $1499.  Ha.

It's not quite so bad here in Australia, when an A3000-25/50 costs about
US$1900.  We don't get Scala for that price, though.


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